[12:00] <visik7> I need to recover some file from a reiser 3.6 fs I've found some tools but they are for windows (yes tools to recover reiser from windows!!!)
[12:01] <Wiseguy> how do i run lm-sensors once i install it?
[12:01] <VanessaE> wiseguy: 'sensors'
[12:01] <dek> I am trying to compile a program, and I get this error "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found." I have kde-devel package installed. What am I missing?
[12:01] <BenFairless> Can anyone help me with a query?
[12:01] <unregisterednoob> visik7: um, recovering from reiser is practically impossible
[12:01] <VanessaE> and 'sensors-detect' to help you sort out what drivers need to be added to your kernel.
[12:01] <visik7> unregisterednoob: there are tools for windows that do it
[12:02] <visik7> unregisterednoob: what they do ? generate ramdom data ? :)
[12:02] <howieson26> !de
[12:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:02] <LjL> !testdisk | visik7
[12:02] <njal> sidny4: No other ideas?
[12:02] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[12:02] <Wiseguy> so if i get "no sensors found" does that mean i dont have any sensors on my board? or i dont have the proper module for my sensors installed?
[12:02] <unregisterednoob> visik7: I'd recommend using ext3 as ReiserFS is gonna die (Reiser is in jail)
[12:02] <visik7> unregisterednoob: reiser will never die, there is a team behind reiser not a single man
[12:02] <janbanan> Will it be possible to update from dapper to edgy without making a fresh installation of edgy? If it does what happen with my installed programs and my tweaked desktop?
[12:02] <LjL> unregisterednoob: how can you tell that "reiserfs is gonna die"? i wouldn't say that
[12:03] <unregisterednoob> visik7: ah wait, I was thinking of XFS, but don't trust those tools - Reiser is not usable under Windows and the data is practically unrecoverable
[12:03] <LjL> janbanan: it is possible
[12:03] <unregisterednoob> LjL: the head of the project is in jail and will probably be executed
[12:03] <visik7> so they generate random data
[12:03] <rag> how i know if my kernel 2.6 support V4L ?
[12:03] <LjL> janbanan: programs should stay installed, and the desktop should stay tweaked
[12:03] <rag> how i know if my kernel 2.6 support V4L ? with make menuconfig?
[12:04] <visik7> I dislike ext3
[12:04] <unregisterednoob> janbanan: you can dist-upgrade, but it's messy and hand-built programs probably need to be rebuilt
[12:04] <unregisterednoob> visik7: more or less
[12:04] <VanessaE> reiser ain't going to die off just because Hans was arrested.
[12:04] <dnite> is there a problem w/ the evdev driver in Edgy??? I just downloaded and installed yesterday, and i got my mouse connected to my bluetooth hub just fine.. and it works if i use the normal mouse driver on /dev/input/mice .. but if i try and use evdev, X never starts...
[12:04] <unregisterednoob> visik7: I do too, but I don't trust ReiserFS
[12:04] <BenFairless> I have a problem: I am using Ubuntu on my laptop which, when I had it running Windows, used 1280x800 but Ubuntu only does 640x480, 800x600, and 1024x768 as default. Is there any way to increase my screen resolution?
[12:04] <janbanan> LjL, sweet. would you recommend update or make a fresh install?
[12:04] <VanessaE> (that said I use ext3, sooner or later I will switch to jfs :)
[12:04] <LjL> unregisterednoob, don't be stupid and don't say such things in this channel. afaik there hasn't even be a trial yet - go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to discuss this, and if you want to advice against reiserfs for technical reasons, fine, but keep everything else in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:05] <rag> how i know if my kernel 2.6 support V4L ? with make menuconfig?
[12:05] <visik7> unregisterednoob: never have a single problem in 5 years of reiser with many machines
[12:05] <BenFairless> ???
[12:05] <Shaezsche> when i use Jack i get distortion in sound. any idea what could be causing this? conflict with alsa?
[12:05] <LjL> janbanan, if you haven't customized too many things, and have a separate home partition, a fresh install might be handier. at least it is for me... i really just prefer to restart from scratch most of the times. but it's up to you
[12:05] <unregisterednoob> LjL: I really wasn't trying to start a flamewar
[12:06] <unregisterednoob> visik7: mm, I use XFS, basically because I randomly selected an fs from the list
[12:06] <TooTallJones> Anyone here know much about gnome-ppp or dial-up on linux? =/
[12:06] <VanessaE> not a bad choice, but xfs can be dangerous if you have power quality issues in your neighborhood.
[12:06] <eXceLibrius> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[12:06] <eXceLibrius>  ... WTF ? by the process chrooting
[12:06] <eXceLibrius> dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `postdrop' in statusoverride file
[12:07] <unregisterednoob> !modem > TooTallJones
[12:07] <VanessaE> sudo groupadd postdrop
[12:07] <VanessaE> and try again.
[12:07] <sc0tt> lol
[12:07] <LicensedLunacy> hey, I am trying to get OSx dual booting with Ubuntu on a G4
[12:07] <sc0tt> where Hans killed his wife or not
[12:07] <sc0tt> is irrelevent
[12:07] <VanessaE> (I think..)
[12:07] <TooTallJones> haha
[12:07] <sc0tt> ReiserFS is still awesome
[12:07] <unregisterednoob> VanessaE: I worry about that too, so I'm getting a UPS soon
[12:07] <sc0tt> :>
[12:07] <TooTallJones> my dial-up dials as soon as my computer boots up to the login screen =/
[12:07] <VanessaE> reiserfs is OK
[12:07] <LicensedLunacy> everything is installed, but I can't get ubuntu to boot
[12:07] <gnomefreak> sc0tt: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:07] <TooTallJones> this must stop! I want it to dial when I say
[12:07] <ace> what is the default kubuntu irc client
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ace: konversation
[12:08] <ace> thanks
[12:08] <Twister829> Hey VanessaE, where do I go to insert all of those settings?
[12:08] <unregisterednoob> TooTallJones: boot script issues, go into /etc/init.d and find the offending line
[12:08] <Quixotic> hi can someone pm me to answer a few nuub basic questions about the lamp server.
[12:08] <Twister829> For the video out
[12:08] <VanessaE> Twister: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:08] <Twister829> okay... I'll give it a shot
[12:08] <VanessaE> make a backup of what you have, first.
[12:08] <Twister829> yeah... definitely
[12:08] <jhasse> why can't i click on the throbber in firefox 2 anymore?
[12:09] <VanessaE> and replace the "Device" section with what I pasted.  edit it to your needs of course.
[12:09] <eXceLibrius> dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `postfix' in statusoverride file
[12:09] <eXceLibrius> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[12:09] <dek> anyone know a good program for plotting 3D graphs?
[12:09] <Twister829> My xorg.conf file is empty for some reason... :S
[12:09] <skyfish> hi folks ! does anyone knows how to install flightgear 0.9.10 on dapper drake ?!
[12:10] <VanessaE> double-check your typing....if you're in X, that file better exist :)
[12:10] <eXceLibrius> VanessaE > dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `postfix' in statusoverride file
[12:10] <eXceLibrius> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[12:10] <rag> please! how i know if my kernel 2.6 has support V4L ? with make menuconfig?
[12:10] <Twister829> ah... capitalization is the death of me
[12:10] <eXceLibrius> what tu sudo ?
[12:11] <VanessaE> eXceLibrius:  ordinarily, I'd say add a user... but in this case I don't know exactly what attributes that "user" would need.
[12:11] <eXceLibrius> maybe i must ru sudo adduser postfix ?
[12:11] <greenman> quit
[12:11] <eXceLibrius> but that will ad unix user
[12:12] <_anthony> is anyone alive? i need some help lol
[12:12] <gnomefreak> VanessaE: was it you that fixed the courier-authdaemon
[12:12] <njal> how can i find out what partitions are on an unmounted drive?
[12:12] <LjL> !ask | _anthony
[12:12] <ubotu> _anthony: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:12] <LjL> njal: i'd use cfdisk
[12:12] <dnite> anyone able to tell me if the latest evdev in Edgy is b0rked? X crashes every time i try and use it.. is there a way to install a previous version?
[12:13] <gnomefreak> dnite: ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:13] <LjL> !edgy > dnite
[12:13] <njal> LjL: Will it tell me what partition types they are too?
[12:13] <VanessaE> gnomefreak, yeah, I had a hand in it
[12:13] <LjL> njal: yes
[12:13] <njal> fantastic
[12:13] <gnomefreak> VanessaE: feel like doing another one? lol
[12:13] <_anthony> ksry, I followed a tutorial the other day to compile a tailored 2.6.16 kernel, but when i boot into it, X crashes and i dont get any video, says "Failed to load NVIDIA kernel module"
[12:13] <VanessaE> um... :)
[12:13] <dnite> thanks gnomefreak
[12:13] <gnomefreak> i know :(
[12:13] <skyfish> njal: try fdisk -l
[12:13] <njal> LjL: Fatal Error, cannot open disk
[12:13] <gnomefreak> he hasnt come back from reading man page
[12:13] <eXceLibrius> daoes any body know what to do with that missing postfix user ?
[12:14] <LjL> njal, you need root privileges
[12:14] <TooTallJones> hrmm confusing
[12:14] <Chippy> hey, I;m sure this has been asked a million times, but is there a way to get firefox 2 up and running now?
[12:14] <jhasse> Chippy, update to edgy
[12:14] <gnomefreak> Chippy: you have to install it from tar on dapper
[12:14] <BenFairless> I have a problem: I am using Ubuntu on my laptop which, when I had it running Windows, used 1280x800 but Ubuntu only does 640x480, 800x600, and 1024x768 as default. Is there any way to increase my screen resolution?
[12:15] <andy> hi all, I ave extra buttons on my mouse (logitec media play mouse).  Is there anyway to configure these extra buttons to, say, turn up and lower the volume?
[12:15] <Chippy> gnomefreak: mkay, thanks
[12:15] <VanessaE> eXceLibrius, you could try this:  adduser -s /bin/false --no-create-home --disabled-login postfix
[12:15] <LjL> !fixres | BenFairless
[12:15] <ubotu> BenFairless: x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:15] <VanessaE> maybe that'll work
[12:15] <gnomefreak> Em3rald: if you dont ask we cant answer you
[12:15] <Em3rald> BenFairless;  ya gotta edit your xorg.conf file most likely.
[12:15] <_anthony> BenFairless, add it to the list in xconfig
[12:15] <Em3rald> gnomefreak:  sorry, wuz reading other ppls comments
[12:15] <Twister829> VannesaE, do I just need to restart after I edit the xorg.conf file?
[12:15] <njal> LjL: Ok it tells me about my current disk, not the one i need to find the information about and running it with /dev/hda as an arguement doesn't work
[12:15] <VanessaE> gnomefreak, what problem are you having on your box?
[12:15] <VanessaE> Twister: yes.
[12:15] <eXceLibrius> VanessaE  .... sudo adduser postfix  ....... now repacking/updating/installing
[12:15] <gnomefreak> VanessaE: none its someone else
[12:15] <Em3rald> Okay, so I use Amarok, and say .... a movie player simultaneously.
[12:15] <BenFairless> thanks guys
[12:15] <VanessaE> Twister: a simple restart of X is enough.
[12:15] <LjL> njal: then it's not recognizing that disk...
[12:15] <gnomefreak> VanessaE: i dont have problems i fix them :)
[12:15] <VanessaE> gnomefreak, ok :)
[12:15] <Twister829> k... hope that works... thank for the help VannessaE
[12:16] <Em3rald> But I don't want the sound of the video, I jsut want the sound of the music in Amarok.
[12:16] <Quixotic> i just did a lamp install but ive never worked with this server stuff before. How can I check if the components are installed like php and apache and mysql? not totally sure how to use them ;p
[12:16] <LjL> !lamp | Quixotic
[12:16] <ubotu> Quixotic: lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[12:16] <LjL> !pm | _anthony
[12:16] <ubotu> _anthony: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[12:16] <njal> LjL: That's not good... Ok how can I install windows without totally trashing my existing device?
[12:16] <Em3rald> Which movie player should I use, or do I have to make some configurations.  I am using xine for most of my audio needs.
[12:16] <VanessaE> no prob.  Note that you'll need to play around with that config of course, since it's somewhat \specific to my husband's box
[12:16] <_anthony> I followed a tutorial the other day to compile a tailored 2.6.16 kernel, but when i boot into it, X crashes and i dont get any video, says "Failed to load NVIDIA kernel module"
[12:16] <njal> em3rald: totem-xine works well enough for me
[12:16] <Twister829> yeah, I understand
[12:16] <VanessaE> xine plays movies too.
[12:16] <VanessaE> and is what I use.
[12:17] <Quixotic> thx for the link ljl
[12:17] <Em3rald> Yeah, I know all that, but if I want to do both simultaneously, without sonund from the movie.
[12:17] <LjL> _anthony: i suppose the binary NVidia drivers that are provided with Dapper aren't compatible with 2.6.16. why did you have to compile a kernel, anyway?
[12:17] <_anthony> LjL, i was told i should do it for better preformance
[12:17] <LjL> njal: please tell me again about the setup you have
[12:17] <LjL> _anthony: nonsense.
[12:18] <_anthony> bah, it was  how-to i found on the forums
[12:18] <Em3rald> See, if I have music playing in Amarok (which uses xine), and I try to watch a movie in mplayer or ... any other player I have tried ... if I adjust the volume on the movie player, it also affects the music in Amarok.
[12:18] <LjL> _anthony: use the standard kernel unless you've got a very compelling reason to do otherwise (i.e. it breaks your system)
[12:18] <LjL> _anthony: pointer?
[12:18] <VanessaE> you can get a *slight* improvement over a 'generic' kernel,  but performance isn't a good reason to roll your own.
[12:18] <_anthony> k, i'll just stay on 2.6.15 then
[12:19] <njal> LjL: I have a primary 160GB SATA drive upon which I want to keep ubuntu, then i have an IDE slave drive I wish to install Windows and one other OS on it, but now since i seem to have screwed the IDE drive, i have to reinstall windows.
[12:19] <VanessaE> rather, like LjL said, if something breaks and you need to upgrade, or maybe security fixes, etc.
[12:19] <frrank> alright guys, i'm fucked, i need help
[12:19] <_anthony> well just to humor me, what is the problem that causes X to crash anyways?
[12:19] <LjL> !language | frrank
[12:19] <ubotu> frrank: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:20] <Em3rald> frrank:  fire away, someone will help
[12:20] <Quixotic> hey ljl this ism y first time setting up a web server. How can i test the apache and mysql and stuff if its functioning. Like can I get some sort of demo webpage or gui to show me its ready? and will apt-get install phpbb work to get phpbb?
[12:20] <LjL> njal: a slave IDE drive... with no master?
[12:20] <Em3rald> Quixotic:  that's how I installe PHPBB on my webserver.
[12:20] <LjL> Quixotic, i'm not all that familiar with that stuff. but to test apache, just point your browser to http://localhost
[12:20] <Em3rald> *installed*
[12:20] <Ekinoks> bye bye
[12:20] <njal> LjL: The SATA is supposed to be the master, though if the IDE requires that there be a master it might explain why my second IDE device is not being deteccted.
[12:20] <Quixotic> but i did a lamp server install and I dont appear to have a browser
[12:20] <Quixotic> everythign is command line
[12:20] <_anthony> well just to humor me, what is the problem that causes X to crash anyways?
[12:20] <Quixotic> thats y im so lost lol
[12:21] <sidny4> njal, I'd make one master and one slave for the ide
[12:21] <frrank> i tried installing the new nvidia drivers, and now when i boot it just stays stuck at the loading screen, and i can't get a command line, i doesn't seem to let me sign into root or anything but i can reach root under the recovery option,
[12:21] <Em3rald> Quixotic:  if you want, you can install a graphical user interface like this:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:21] <LjL> njal: well, i don't have SATA on my computer, so i can't really say... but i believed SATA and IDE were two quite separate things, SATA being treated as SCSI by Linux
[12:21] <ancient> hello guys
[12:21] <Quixotic> ahhh ubuntu-desktop thats what it was
[12:21] <sidny4> the ide is completely separate from the SAT
[12:21] <yohan> im trying to use cedega to run a game and ai get this error: File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play_gui.py", line 2979, in ? gddb_file = detected[0] 
[12:21] <Quixotic> I love u emerald lol
[12:21] <sidny4> A
[12:21] <yohan> any ideas?
[12:21] <sidny4> LjL, they are :D
[12:21] <thor> Quixotic: do you have links at the command line? (command line browser)
[12:21] <LjL> njal: anyway, it your IDE drive is the primary slave, it should be /dev/hdb, not /dev/hda
[12:21] <ancient> quick question, I would completely move to LInux apart from I cant talk to my friends on MSN Messenger, How can i get around this?
[12:21] <Quixotic> i tried typing sudo apt-get install gnome like 50 times
[12:21] <Em3rald> Quixotic:  you can also use kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop
[12:21] <njal> Hmm
[12:22] <Em3rald> Quixotic:  xubuntu-desktop is "lighter" and probably better for a server.
[12:22] <calvin> i'm trying to share a network printer between 2 Ubuntu machines
[12:22] <sidny4> trouble is, I believe it is showing up as hdd isn't it njal?
[12:22] <njal> shall i open up my box set one IDE to master, one to slave then reboot and see how they are detected?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> Quixotic: install ubuntu-desktop by chance?
[12:22] <LjL> Quixotic: "sudo apt-get install links2" will get you a textmode (and graphical, but with no need for X) browser anyway
[12:22] <frrank> i tried installing the new nvidia drivers, and now when i boot it just stays stuck at the loading screen, and i can't get a command line, i doesn't seem to let me sign into root or anything but i can reach root under the recovery option,
[12:22] <njal> sidny4: Yup hda is actualy hdd
[12:22] <frrank> quit
[12:22] <gnomefreak> LjL: links2 wont run in tty
[12:22] <Em3rald> calvin:  there is a Wiki file about that somewhere on the ubuntu site.  It's not terribly difficult, but I dont remember off hand
[12:22] <ancient> quick question, I would completely move to LInux apart from I cant talk to my friends on MSN Messenger, How can i get around this?
[12:22] <LjL> gnomefreak, uh?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> LjL: with the -g option
[12:22] <sidny4> njal, what all devices, SATA and IDE do you have in your system?
[12:22] <calvin> hi em3rald
[12:22] <MasseR> ancient: Install amsn
[12:23] <VanessaE> ancient: use GAIM
[12:23] <calvin> i've been trying all day
[12:23] <VanessaE> or maybe kopete
[12:23] <MasseR> Or gaim
[12:23] <MasseR> Or bitlbee
[12:23] <gnomefreak> LjL: links -g wont run in tyy
[12:23] <calvin> i've looked though a bunch of forum posts
[12:23] <MasseR> There are multiple choices
[12:23] <VanessaE> GAIM (and I guess the others too) handle MSN, Yahoo, AOL, ICQ.....
[12:23] <ancient> masser I have
[12:23] <njal> sidny4: One SATA 160GB, 1 IDE 80GB and 1 IDE 20GB
[12:23] <ancient> it does not work with voice
[12:23] <calvin> i've tried samba, lpd, and cups
[12:23] <LjL> gnomefreak, well, maybe it won't because of some problem, but in theory it should - it supports framebuffer as well, i think, as svgalib
[12:23] <Em3rald> calvin:  Hmm ... did you try the wiki?  I think it's wiki.ubuntu.com. ...
[12:23] <MasseR> ancient: I don't think none work with voice
[12:23] <sidny4> are the IDE's each on their own ribbon cable?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> LjL: it hasnt since breezy atleast for me on 3 pcs
[12:24] <MasseR> But afaik amsn is one of the few which support video
[12:24] <ancient> yeah that is my point
[12:24] <ancient> so what else Can i do?
[12:24] <VanessaE> if you want voice chat, about all you can do there is use Skype or one of the netmeeting-compatible programs
[12:24] <Em3rald> Help! if I have music playing in Amarok (which uses xine), and I try to watch a movie in mplayer or ... any other player I have tried ... if I adjust the volume on the movie player, it also affects the music in Amarok.
[12:24] <VanessaE> (gnome-meeting or whatever they call it now)
[12:24] <MasseR> ancient: Move to skype? :P
[12:24] <ancient> skype is not in any repos I cant find
[12:24] <MasseR> No, really I don't know if any other than msn messenger/windows messenger can do voice
[12:24] <njal> sidny4: Nope, one master one slave, i have two DVD-RW drives on their own IDE chain
[12:24] <Quixotic> so to test if apache and mysql are working I point a browser at them?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> !skype | ancient
[12:24] <njal> i figure i would group the hard drives on thier own chain too
[12:24] <andy> hi all, in gnome, can I display the windows in the window list as icons instead of small icons and text?
[12:24] <ancient> Another question relating to that, I often cannot get certain files because not being in my channel, is there a link to a certain set of repos which gets pretty much everything and is safe secure?
[12:25] <MasseR> ## skype (official)
[12:25] <MasseR> ## only uncomment it if you need it
[12:25] <gnomefreak> we lost ubotu
[12:25] <MasseR> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[12:25] <ancient> !skype
[12:25] <FuelB> I installed the firefox 2.0 package but now https doesn't work...
[12:25] <sidny4> ok, so on one IDE cable you have two hard drives and on another IDE cable you have two DVD drives correct?
[12:25] <ancient> Is there a list somewhere though which shows the best set of repos?
[12:25] <VanessaE> ancient: look in your /etc/apt/sources.list - all of the important repos are already listed there
[12:25] <ubotu> ancient: skype is To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:25] <ubotu> skype is To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:25] <VanessaE> just uncomment all of the 'deb' lines and do an apt-get update.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> here he is
[12:25] <njal> sidny4: correct.
[12:25] <ancient> van, I know but things like adobe reader and others codecs dont install
[12:25] <MasseR> ancient: And if you want you can google "my recommended dapper sources.list"
[12:26] <MasseR> Which is quite good if I may say so
[12:26] <sidny4> and on each ribbon, one of the devices is set to master and the other is set to slave right?
[12:26] <rbil> install and run EtherApe to get a graphic representation of your network connections. Then startup Skype and watch it all light up like a Christmas tree, as Skype is peer2peer. :-)
[12:26] <LjL> FuelB: what firefox 2.0 package?
[12:26] <VanessaE> for those things I generally go to someplace like mplayerhq.hu and grab the codecs, and use kpdf instead of adobe/acrobat
[12:26] <njal> sidny4: No, i was told SATA didn't like IDE drives being set to master so both IDE hard drives are set to slave.
[12:26] <ancient> thNKA
[12:27] <gnomefreak> VanessaE: what did yuou remove to fix the courier-authdaemon issue
[12:27] <gnomefreak> and how
[12:27] <Em3rald> Och ... this channel is dizzying LOL
[12:27] <andy> how do you check what version of gnome you have???
[12:27] <FuelB> LjL: I just did apt-get install mozilla-firefox in edgy...
[12:27] <FuelB> 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3
[12:27] <LjL> !edgy | FuelB, ah edgy
[12:27] <ubotu> FuelB, ah edgy: edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:27] <Em3rald> I'll be back later folx
[12:27] <thor> gnomefreak: just installed links2 on dapper and -g works to google from a terminal in gnome, but not in a tty
[12:27] <gnomefreak> andy: system>about gnome
[12:27] <gnomefreak> thor: thats what i said
[12:27] <andy> how do I update gnome to 2.16?
[12:27] <xipietotec> If anyone can help, I'm trying to configure a gdesklet taskbar, but it only sees items which are in pixmaps, not any sort of icon anywhere else
[12:27] <thor> yup...just proving your point
[12:28] <gnomefreak> andy: upgrade to edgy
[12:28] <sidny4> njal, ok, set one to master and one to slave for both of the ribbon cables, SATA is different and shouldn't be affected by the IDE devices
[12:28] <xipietotec> I've had this same problem trying to configure custom icons for folders and applications
[12:28] <LjL> thor, gnomefreak: no, doesn't work here either in a tty using svgalib. should try with framebuffer, if i weren't too tired to recall how the framebuffer modules are loaded
[12:28] <andy> does that require an entire reinstallation
[12:28] <njal> sidny4: Ok give me a second to power the machine down then
[12:28] <LjL> andy: no. just wait 2 days until edgy is out, and we'll have upgrade instructions on the wiki
[12:28] <sidny4> njal, ok
[12:29] <frrank> hey i get stuck at the loading screen after installing the nvidia drivers, can anyone help ?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> andy: sort of except apt will upgrade all packages for you about same amount of time as install
[12:29] <andy> ok
[12:29] <Chippy> hey. I'm installing firefox from tar, but I can't overwrite the default firefox install; is there any way to fix this?
[12:29] <andy> so two days? sweet
[12:29] <LjL> !schedule > andy
[12:29] <gnomefreak> Chippy: are you reading the wiki?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> andy: 2-3 days yes
[12:29] <dek> what is the command for uncompressing a .tar.bz2 file?
[12:29] <LjL> gnomefreak: depends on one's timezone i suppose ;)
[12:29] <gnomefreak> dek: tar -jxvf
[12:29] <woland_> dek, jxvpf
[12:29] <LjL> dek: tar xf filename
[12:29] <Chippy> gnomefreak: the mozilla wiki, is there one up on firefox 2 for ubuntu already?
[12:29] <andy> gnomefreak, is there a way to display windows as icons in a window list?
[12:29] <VanessaE> gnomefreak, eventually we had to resort to editing one of apt's database files and deleting the offending entry
[12:29] <gnomefreak> !firefox
[12:30] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:30] <Chippy> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:30] <dek> thanks all :P
[12:30] <gnomefreak> Chippy: just replace the 1.5 for 2.0
[12:30] <VanessaE> (/var/lib/dpkg/status to be exact)
[12:30] <frrank> hey i get stuck at the loading screen after installing the nvidia drivers, can anyone help ?
[12:30] <sidny4> so when edgy is officially released, I'll just be able to upgrade my dapper to edgy right? or would it be better to reinstall?
[12:30] <gnomefreak> VanessaE: oh wonderful
[12:30] <VanessaE> but that was only after we tried every other solution I could think of...didn't want to risk breaking his box.
[12:30] <IcemanV9> sidny4: correct
[12:30] <LjL> sidny4: what is "better" is up to you. you certainly should be able to upgrade.
[12:31] <gnomefreak> sidny4: gksudo update-manager -d will upgrade you after release
[12:31] <gnomefreak> right now gksudo update-manager -c -d will do it before release
[12:31] <Wiseguy> hey guys how do i play xvid in ubuntu?
[12:31] <sidny4> sweet
[12:31] <sidny4> I didn't want to reinstall :D
[12:32] <Subhuman> Wiseguy, w32codecs
[12:32] <Subhuman> !w32codecs
[12:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:32] <woland_> how well does ubuntu support my adaptec raid/scsi controller?
[12:32] <freebse> Wiseguy: install vlc
[12:32] <VanessaE> easiest way to get win32codecs is to grab them from mplayerhq.hu and unzip to some local directory... problem is you gotta rebuild xine with win32codec support (default in dapper at least, lacks it)
[12:32] <Alethes> how soon should I expect that the latest gnome and firefox will be available for ubuntu?
[12:33] <andy> is there any way to display windows as icons rather then words in a window list? (gnome)
[12:34] <VanessaE> Alethes, generally a few days to a week for someone to make a repos available, seems to be my experience....as for getting those packages into the official repos, not sure...  weeks maybe
[12:34] <thor> ok boys and girls...after installing links2 the default browser for xchat is links2...how do I change it back to Firefox?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> sidny4: upgrade is fine
[12:34] <Alethes> even for gnome 2.16 which has been out for a while now?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> ignore that
[12:34] <gnomefreak> was tabbed too far up
[12:34] <VanessaE> dunno about that...gnome is something I don't mess with
[12:34] <technoid_> so any idea as to when firefox 2 release  will hit the repos?
[12:34] <sidny4> haha, ok
[12:35] <gnomefreak> thor: sudo update-alternatives x-www-browser
[12:35] <gnomefreak> Alethes: firefox and gnome will not be backported to dapper
[12:35] <gnomefreak> Alethes: they will be in edgy
[12:35] <gnomefreak> technoid_: wont
[12:35] <thor> gnomefreak: update-alternatives: unknown argument `x-www-browse'
[12:35] <Alethes> I thought edgy was due this month
[12:36] <gnomefreak> thor: try again its browser
[12:36] <dcordes> gnomefreal: so the new gnome version will only be available in edgy?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> Alethes: in 2-3 days
[12:36] <Alethes> ah cool
[12:36] <gnomefreak> dcordes: correct
[12:36] <dcordes> gnomefreak*
[12:36] <Dr_willis> Im using Edgy now. :P why wait.
[12:36] <Dr_willis> lol
[12:36] <Alethes> will it be available as an update?
[12:36] <technoid_> gnome: thanks
[12:36] <thor> gnomefreak: update-alternatives: unknown argument `x-www-browser
[12:36] <gnomefreak> Alethes: not in dapper
[12:36] <Leone> http://paste.debian.net/15484 Anyone can Help Me , i cant connect to internet , i tri and look in the pastebin !!
[12:36] <thor> the r was there...just didn't copy
[12:36] <Alethes> :/
[12:36] <gnomefreak> thor: oops
[12:36] <gnomefreak> thor: sudo update-alternatives --config x-ww-browser
[12:36] <Alethes> so I won't be able to do a simple update to go from dapper to edgy?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> x-www-browser
[12:37] <jroes> is it possible to install dapper from a usb stick?
[12:37] <Dr_willis> Alethes,  i find it safer/easier to do a clean reinstall. keeping /home
[12:37] <gnomefreak> Alethes: yes you can upgrade
[12:37] <dcordes> gnomefreak: but there will be the opportunity to install it in dapper though?
[12:37] <dcordes> because firefox 2 works just fine here in dapper
[12:38] <IcemanV9> gnomefreak: if you're saying that fx2 and gnome 2.16 won't be backported to dapper, then LTS doesn't mean anything? *confused*
[12:38] <sidny4> ok, so I just installed firefox 2 on my computer here at work, it's not bad, only difference I've noticed so far is that it's more shiny :D
[12:38] <VanessaE> firefox2 has a major bug though...  it shouldn't be possible, IMHO, to cause it ti crash by using a new theme.
[12:38] <Leone> http://paste.debian.net/15484  HELP ME PLEASE IO CANT CONNECT
[12:38] <dcordes> IcemanV9: ture...
[12:38] <seba_> hola, alguien que hable espaol?
[12:38] <VanessaE> !es
[12:38] <sidny4> !es
[12:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:38] <seba_> gracias
[12:39] <sidny4> de nada
[12:39] <Snake> if edgy ships with aiglx... does that mean my hardware supports it?
[12:39] <Snake> like, am I running on it right now?
[12:39] <xipietotec> I need to copy and paste the contents of a file into pixmaps
[12:39] <xipietotec> contents of a folder even
[12:39] <VanessaE> into a pixmap??
[12:40] <jariep1__> hi all
[12:40] <cablesm102> Will Firefox 2 be available for Dapper?
[12:40] <Snake> anyone?
[12:40] <thor> gnomefreak: interesting....sudo update-alternatives --all does show it as x-www-browser, but it didn't like it on the command line
[12:40] <jariep1__> I am trying to learn how to get vsftpd working
[12:40] <jariep1__> so I am a newbie to this
[12:40] <sohaibma> does anyone know why ubuntu detects my k750i when i connect it to usb but not my flash drive (creative muvo tx) and my USB HDD (NTFS).
[12:40] <Dr_willis> cablesm102,  i downloade it last night from the ftp sites and installed it manually :)
[12:40] <VanessaE> Snake: generally a linux distro will come with lots of stuff your machine can't use; whether your box can use aiglx is a matter of your video card.
[12:40] <cablesm102> Yes, but will it come out on the repositories? Will FF continue to be updated on Dapper?
[12:40] <jariep1__> I am looking for a nice HOWTO on setting up the vsftpd.conf file
[12:41] <jariep1__> the would be easy for a newbie
[12:41] <Snake> VanessaE: Its a ATI 9600, I had XGL on it before, but I just now did a fresh install of edgy and seen on a wiki it came with aiglx
[12:41] <dcordes> if not LTS really doesn't mean shit
[12:41] <dcordes> :P
[12:41] <Dr_willis> jared555,  try the  homepage for the program... newbies and ftp servers...  heh...
[12:41] <VanessaE> ok.  yeah, if it works with XGL it seems that AIGLX should work too, based on what I've read.
[12:41] <moyogo> hi
[12:41] <Dr_willis> what is with it and newbies alwways running ftp servers..
[12:41] <sohaibma> does anyone know why ubuntu detects my k750i when i connect it to usb but not my flash drive (creative muvo tx) and my USB HDD (NTFS).
[12:42] <Snake> VanessaE: is there anyway to tell if aiglx is installed/working?
[12:42] <VanessaE> how to test and use those things, I haven't the slightest clue :)
[12:42] <Snake> Alright :-)
[12:42] <rbil> Dr_willis, no kidding.
[12:42] <wil`yum> sound works for all users except one...where should i look?
[12:42] <dgh1973> yeah, I was gonna say, do you NEED an FTP server? If not specifically I would just use ssh
[12:42] <Snake> VanessaE: thanks :-)
[12:42] <VanessaE> I guess you could try running one of those window managers that uses xgl/aiglx and see how it ...
[12:42] <VanessaE> runs.
[12:42] <dcordes> anybody uses tranflash card?
[12:42] <teknoprep2> i am extremely impressed with Ubuntu Server 6.06
[12:42] <teknoprep2> VERY nice job
[12:43] <sohaibma> does anyone know why ubuntu detects my k750i when i connect it to usb but not my flash drive (creative muvo tx) and my USB HDD (NTFS).
[12:43] <dgh1973> yeah it's nice
[12:43] <ace> what does it mean when adept says 'break(install)'
[12:43] <bluecat9> Can someone tell me how to get GAIM to display Avatars in the Roster? thx
[12:43] <dcordes> schoaibma: if you ask your question a third time the chance to get an answer will drop below zero
[12:43] <teknoprep2> i am running ubuntu server 6.06 as a host os for vmware server... it runs flawlessly on some very nice equipment
[12:43] <freebse> dcordes: I do
[12:43] <rbil> teknoprep2, so was I, until i tried to install it on an Epia mobo. Looked like it installed ok, but on reboot, endless loop back to restart.
[12:44] <teknoprep2> epia ?
[12:44] <rbil> had to use alternative cd to install a server.
[12:44] <woland_> what happened to the bouncing cow
[12:44] <goofey> in command line, how does one search for packages?  I checked man apt-get
[12:44] <dcordes> freebse: nice you use it with a device in between or do you connect with sd adaptor?
[12:44] <VanessaE> in the "roster"?
[12:44] <teknoprep2> i only use asus/or/intel
[12:44] <VanessaE> the buddy list?
[12:44] <xipietotec> I need the command to copy and paste a file from one directory into another...
[12:44] <rbil> yeh, one of those small formfactor things, fanless ... no prob with Fedora, Mandrake, etc. But not Ubuntu Server
[12:44] <IcemanV9> goofey: apt-cache search <packagename>
[12:44] <xipietotec> actually, the entire contents of a directory into another directory
[12:44] <teknoprep2> sometimes tyan for server stuff... but mostly supermicro servers and they use intel everything
[12:44] <goofey> xipietotec: cp /path/to/file /path/to/new/file
[12:44] <dgh1973> cp -r
[12:44] <freebse> dcordes: adapter travel flash of PQI
[12:45] <VanessaE> xipietotec, just use cp to copy files around
[12:45] <goofey> IcemanV9: thanks!
[12:45] <VanessaE> or use konqueror as a file mangler.
[12:45] <woland_> how well does ubuntu support my adaptec raid/scsi controller?
[12:45] <VanessaE> (manager)
[12:45] <dgh1973> should be fine woland_, I used an adaptec scsi card years ago
[12:45] <sidny4> xipietotec: cp file /destination/directory
[12:45] <paras> channel, i cannot access applications like netwrok admin, users and groups manager from gnome. it says wrong password howerver i have set the root password
[12:45] <dcordes> freebse: is that a flash card reader? i have the problem that, when i connect the card with my cardreader, i can write files and they also appear on my mobile phone but they're all empty files!
[12:46] <sidny4> paras, don't use the root password, use your account's password
[12:46] <xipietotec> sidny: And that will remove all files from one directory (without copying the directory itself) and put them into another?
[12:46] <dgh1973> paras: that's not roots it's asking for, it's yours
[12:46] <cafuego> woland_: If it's a really recent model (past 3 months) it may not be fully supported; otherwose it'll be just fine. I've been using a 7880 since '97 :-)
[12:46] <paras> dgh1973, i see. let me try
[12:46] <sidny4> xipietotec: mv
[12:46] <freebse> dcordes: no it does also writing
[12:46] <levander> How the hell am I supposed to know if this motherboard I want to buy works okay under Linux?
[12:46] <xipietotec> use mv then?
[12:46] <VanessaE> levander: is it VIA based?
[12:46] <cafuego> levander: What mobo is it?
[12:46] <levander> VanessaE: no
[12:46] <VanessaE> (the north/southbridge chipset)
[12:46] <paras> dgh1973, yes worked.. thanks...
[12:46] <VanessaE> good.  then it probably works :)
[12:46] <bluecat9> VanessaE, sorry. Did you reply. I missed it. :)
[12:47] <paras> sidny4, worked !
[12:47] <sidny4> levander google: linux 'motherboard type'
[12:47] <woland_> cafuego, i have 7860/7890
[12:47] <sohaibma> i am downloading vlc, and its dependencies; doi have to download the dependencies of the vlc dependencies and their dependencies.
[12:47] <levander> cafuego: It's an Asus P5LD2 (Intel 945P based)
[12:47] <sidny4> paras, congrats!
[12:47] <VanessaE> blue: not sure, what was the question/ :)
[12:47] <dgh1973> a lot of hardware works great with ubuntu in particular these days levander
[12:47] <paras> sidny4, :)
[12:47] <bluecat9> VanessaE, How to display Avatar in the GAIM roster?
[12:47] <cafuego> levander: I see no reason why that wouldn't work. (my friend's does)
[12:47] <VanessaE> Oh that
[12:47] <levander> dgh1973: yeah, I know, but don't want to buy the motherboard if I don't know that it works
[12:47] <VanessaE> what do you mean by the 'roster'?  The buddy list?
[12:47] <njal> sidny4: ok jumper switched
[12:47] <dgh1973> right, understood
[12:48] <bluecat9> VanessaE, yup yup/
[12:48] <jvai> <--*pours out some choco mocha frap for hoary, teary eyed*) hoary has served me well, but it's tyme to move on
[12:48] <VanessaE> it's automatic
[12:48] <dcordes> freebse: oh yes the term card reader is not quite well selected :-) do you have any idea what could be the problem with my device? as i siad i can write. but only filenames without content. i copy the things nautilus and it is too quick
[12:48] <BlueKnight> Hiyas, linux newby here, having trouble getting the network interface to work. If I manually run dhclient, it will work. Where would I normally find dhclient in the boot configurations?
[12:48] <cafuego> levander: ... in terms of 945 chipset anyway
[12:48] <xipietotec> err....that moved the folder itself to where I wanted it, but not the files inside the folder
[12:48] <sidny4> njal, alright, is your system recognizing the drives better?
[12:48] <cafuego> woland_: should be fine.
[12:48] <bluecat9> VanessaE, hmm I must be doing something wrong then.. will try latest version. thx
[12:48] <VanessaE> mmhmm.
[12:48] <wil`yum> sound works for all users except one...where should i look?
[12:48] <njal> sidny4: I think so, it's just added another ubuntu install and said my normal install is located on sda1
[12:48] <dgh1973> /etc/groups
[12:49] <VanessaE> wil`yum, check that the affected user is in the appropriate group (usually audio)
[12:49] <njal> sidny4: So i don't know what drive grub is booting from
[12:49] <wil`yum> thank you
[12:49] <dgh1973> wil`yum, ot /etc/group rather, user probably not in right group to access device files
[12:49] <joona> BlueKnight: /etc/network/interfaces
[12:49] <joona> for example:
[12:49] <joona> auto eth0
[12:49] <sidny4> njal, it's booting from your SATA drive
[12:49] <joona> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:49] <joona> those two lines ^
[12:50] <freebse> dcordes: to tell you the truth, I don't know, it simply works over here
[12:50] <njal> sidny4: No it's not... I selected my normal install, and it said Error 15: file not found
[12:50] <jvai> is there a classic gnome theme for dapper?
[12:50] <jvai> i want the foot back
[12:50] <BlueKnight> joona, thank you, I'll look there
[12:50] <njal> sidny4: it managed to boot an older kernel on sda1 though
[12:50] <joona> BlueKnight: yeah, no problem
[12:51] <dgh1973> jvai, not sure, check out art.gnome.org though, all kinds of theme components there
[12:51] <njal> only option it would boot
[12:51] <jvai> yea, was there earlier.. ty @ dgh.. will look harder
[12:51] <dcordes> freebse: truth can be hard :( well i think my samsung cell phone writes some kind of special file system on it which ubuntu can't handle. but thanks for your response
[12:52] <jvai> i was @ gnome-look also, for the classic gnome theme
[12:52] <paparucino> hi guys
[12:52] <sidny4> hmm
[12:52] <dgh1973> jvai, if you are talking about the foot icon, that should be a straight forward find replacement icon, not sure which one you replace but someone here probably does
[12:52] <freebse> dcordes: this is the case, I can not write to my Sony as well
[12:52] <sidny4> !grub
[12:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:53] <jhasse> Why do inputs in Firefox look so ugly?
[12:53] <dcordes> freebse: you ever tried to write on it with windows?
[12:53] <jvai> dgh: yea, i was playing w/ the dapper live cd last nyte, i tried to change it, but it wasnt easy, never got it
[12:54] <sidny4> njal, can you see your windows partitions on your IDE drives?
[12:54] <paparucino> i beg your pardon, I'm new for this channel.  I've received, via mailing list, the announcement of the release of 6.10, but sice one of my disc ceashed I lost the mail. Can someone post me the link to the site were to download it
[12:54] <jvai> dgh: i found a link in ubuntuforums to change it, but i'm on hoary now, i'd loose the link whaen i do a reinstall of dapper
[12:54] <ancient> !skype
[12:54] <ubotu> skype is To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:55] <jvai> no wait, i sent it to myself on a gmail email.. lol
[12:55] <compengi> !scp
[12:55] <ubotu> scp is a secure way of copying files across networks using ssh. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - winscp is a windows scp client
[12:55] <njal> sidny4: Erm, I can see the 20GB drive which should contain a XP install
[12:55] <freebse> dcordes: it does not work either, just with the software that came with the phone
[12:55] <jvai> i fell n luv w/ the old school look of gnome 2.10...
[12:55] <njal> sidny4: I can't mount it, but it's listed in the gnome computer
[12:55] <sidny4> ok
[12:56] <ancient> trying to get my mic to work with skype now, i was told to go to sound recorder but when i open it says your audio capture settings are invalid please correct them in multimedia settings, where do i go from here
[12:56] <n3_o> Hi, does anyone know the command for configuring graphics?
[12:56] <dcordes> freebse: for my samsung flash card it works. that's what i can't understand. why should windows handle this filesystem and ubuntu not. i think it is jut a fat32 but there are several configuration files written onto it by the phone.
[12:56] <n3_o> card
[12:56] <Fastly_> guys, is it possible to get flash working with firefox in edgy amd64?
[12:56] <n3_o> sudo?
[12:57] <visik7> Fastly_: yes using firefox32bit
[12:57] <Fastly_> ok, thanks
[12:57] <dcordes> n3_o :-) try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and take a look at wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:57] <visik7> Fastly_: or hoping that the guy behind flash 9 will release a version of flash player for amd64
[12:57] <freebse> dcordes: try this with the ippd f.ex. ot does write files in win, but it doesn't with my debian, says fat32
[12:58] <jvai> i should dl edgy & use that instead of dapper
[12:58] <n3_o> anyone .. know how to config X?
[12:58] <thor> ancient: try double click on the speaker in the gnome panel
[12:58] <n3_o> is that the command?
[12:58] <n3_o> sudo config x
[12:58] <n3_o> ?
[12:58] <sidny4> njal, do you have the other two OS's installed where you want them to be?
[12:58] <Fastly_> visik7: surely they must pull their finger out now... i signed the pertition ;-)
[12:59] <Fastly_> petition sorry
[12:59] <dcordes> n3_o try reading what people tell you
[12:59] <njal> sidny4: I don't know, the whole thing started when i split the 80GB drive up and decided i needed to allow XP to run fsck to sort itself out
[12:59] <cafuego> visik7: only if Adobe have one.
[12:59] <compengi> does ssh work on ubuntu by default or i should install ssh?
[12:59] <dcordes> freebse: i didn't really get this what is  ippd f.ex. ?
[12:59] <jvai> how will this gpl3 effect us in ubuntu?
[12:59] <cafuego> and that really depends on how urgly the code is internally.
[12:59] <Fastly_> http://www.petitiononline.com/lin64swf/petition.html
[01:00] <sidny4> and ever since then you haven't been able to boot into anything else other than ubuntu?
[01:00] <teknoprep2> with VMware server does it use more the 1 cpu?
[01:00] <teknoprep2> does it use ALL available CPU's to the HOST os ?
[01:00] <cafuego> teknoprep2: if you have more than one, sure.
[01:00] <freebse> dcordes: ipod for example , ok my fault wasn't understandable
[01:01] <ancient> I have changed everything to max but it still doesnt work
[01:01] <Wiseguy> hey guys whats the rar utility in synaptic called?
[01:01] <cafuego> teknoprep2: You can tell each vm individually how many CPUs it can use.
[01:01] <teknoprep2> cafuego, its only showing 1 cpu ... but its HT not dual cpu... i am buying a dual core dual cpu opteron
[01:01] <AMDfanboy> hi everyone, i run mepis and i want to download the latest version of lyx
[01:01] <ancient> unrar wiseguy
[01:01] <setrak> hello !
[01:01] <teknoprep2> cafuego, yeah but in vmware server it can only use up to 2 cpu's per VM
[01:01] <akonkwa> wiseguy , isn't it ark?
[01:01] <setrak> could anyone answer a question about easyubuntu?
[01:01] <setrak> please?
[01:01] <teknoprep2> ask the question setrak
[01:02] <dcordes> freebse: oh i see i got to look out for a solution then. copying files via samba worked just fine but now i have no more windows boxes here
[01:02] <cafuego> teknoprep2: Yeah, if you need higher end performance you should be paying for it (or use Xen)
[01:02] <DGH> setrak: what's the question?
[01:02] <PowerCat> Can ubuntu help me restore my boot record to using ntldr?
[01:02] <bluecat9> VanessaE, thx for your help, today
[01:02] <bluecat9> adios
[01:02] <ancient> it still says audo capture settings are invalid
[01:02] <dcordes> adios amigo
[01:02] <setrak> thanks teknoprep2 : i just installed the last version from the off website and flash works, sound of divx works but not the rest that i selected d'u lnow why?
[01:03] <njal> sidny4: Erm yes, i think so, i only use windows for uni work, and even then we have to develop in windows and Linux so i need both, but I don't mind reinstalling on either drive, if i can save the boot stuff on the sata drive without another install screwing it up
[01:03] <freebse> dcordes: it has something to do with DRM in the ipod case... but really I don't know why it is not working in your case
[01:03] <Fastly> does anyone else here find that azureus is broken since an upgrade to 2.5?
[01:03] <teknoprep2> setrak, no sorry
[01:03] <thor> PowerCat: are you trying to restore XP?
[01:03] <PowerCat> thor: Yes.
[01:03] <Fastly> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: memmove
[01:03] <thor> PowerCat: can you get into XP from grub?
[01:03] <PowerCat> thor: I want to get ntldr to manage my booting
[01:03] <Syco54645> how can i make numlock on by default when x starts?
[01:03] <PowerCat> thor: grub freezes at boot. i cant boot anymore
[01:03] <user5> ciao
[01:04] <dcordes> freebse: yea my case is really strange. i should call samsung mobile support and ask them why the hell my flash memory doesn't work with my linux box :-P
[01:04] <Syco54645> not gnome, but x
[01:04] <user5> how are you there
[01:04] <ancient> cant get my mic to work on skyper foer the life of me
[01:04] <PowerCat> thor: I dont have a floppy and my HD is sata.
[01:04] <setrak> DGH : any idea?
[01:04] <DGH> setrak: if easyubuntu give you problems try automatix, it's another good utility for that. Automatix2 is better to, a bit more like easyubuntu
[01:04] <sidny4> njal, I'd probably reinstall everything, starting with windows, and with ubuntu last, GRUB should auto install and automatically set up everything for you
[01:04] <thor> PowerCat: well, you just killed my idea <smile>
[01:04] <setrak> DGH thanx ill try that
[01:04] <dcordes> freebse: the strange thing is that nautilus says the files are written and it also takes its time but they're just empty
[01:04] <DGH> setrak: would depend upon what else you selected, I've only used easyubuntu once or twice, not too familiar with it, sorry
[01:05] <njal> sidny4: there's no way to leave the drive as it is and just reinstall the other OS's?
[01:05] <PowerCat> thor: any hints for me?
[01:05] <DGH> !automatix
[01:05] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[01:05] <jvai> which should i install 1st? easyubuntu or chkrootkit?
[01:05] <dcordes> anyways got to go. laters
[01:05] <woland_> how can i install an SMP kernel on an ubuntu machine with no net access? is there a dpkg?
[01:05] <freebse> dcordes: ya do it, it can be fun, but they son't know either, and fun for 0.49ct or even higher per minute
[01:05] <sidny4> well, the other os's will install their bootloader
[01:05] <woland_> (i dont want to install the devel tools)
[01:06] <sidny4> and I have yet to install windows without it taking over the MBR
[01:06] <thor> PowerCat: nothing other than booting off a floppy and restoring via fdisk, which I don't think will work with sata
[01:06] <sidny4> then again, I guess I haven't tried to do that
[01:06] <DGH> woland_: there should be one off the cd, what arch?
[01:06] <sidny4> haha
[01:06] <jvai> easyubuntu 1st, then chkrootkit 2nd
[01:06] <njal> sidny4: What about simply reinstalling the bootloader on the sata drive?
[01:07] <music_man_nz> Under manage 3rd Party software I have installed "Autopackage Software Installed (GTK+) and the Remove button is disabled with the message "You must have the system password to uninstall this package" - how can I remove it please?
[01:07] <woland_> DGH, i386. i installed using the regular install CD but i've been left with a kernel that only supports 1 CPU
[01:07] <sidny4> njal, that could work too, I don't remember the the command to reinstall gnome off hand
[01:07] <sidny4> erm, grub
[01:07] <njal> grub-install perchance?
[01:07] <DGH> woland_: if it's intel you should be able to install the linux-image-686 package to get smp support
[01:08] <music_man_nz> anyone?
[01:08] <sidny4> sounds framiliar
[01:08] <woland_> DGH, shouldn't the install CD have of installed that?
[01:08] <DGH> woland_: if it's amd try linux-image-k7
[01:08] <woland_> DGH, i have 4 PIII's in the box
[01:08] <DGH> woland_: i think it gives you the vanilla 386 kernel to start with, it may be on the cd but may not have been installed
[01:09] <woland_> DGH, have you got a link to the package?
[01:09] <DGH> woland_: right, so try to install linux-image-686 using the CD as a repo
[01:09] <DGH> hang on...
[01:09] <ancient> can anyone help me tyring to get microphone to work with skype
[01:09] <wil`yum> VanessaE, DGH - i got my sound fixed...thanks for the help
[01:09] <music_man_nz> would anyone be able to help?
[01:09] <VanessaE> good deal
[01:10] <franklin> I have a external hard drive that is hfs+, and I'd like to write to it from my dapper drake machine.  is this possible?
[01:10] <cafuego> woland_: it should end up fetching linux-image-2.6.15-27-686 from an online repository,. That kernel also does SMP, so it should see all CPUs once that's booted.
[01:10] <Fastly> does anyone here know what packing would include: /lib/ld-linux.so.2?
[01:10] <woland_> cafuego, it doesn't have net access
[01:11] <cafuego> woland_: a usb stick is your best friend ;-)
[01:11] <njal> franklin: if you have hfs built into the kernel, yes
[01:11] <ancient> anyone able to help me with skyper not working in terms of my microphone, everything else works, calling and i can hear the other person?
[01:11] <music_man_nz> So I guess I can't remove it...?
[01:11] <woland_> will ubuntu support http://www.erosboutique.org/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=erosbout&Product_Code=7461-7&Category_Code=penis_enlargers ?
[01:12] <cafuego> ancient: Check the input settings in the mixer (double-click the volume icon in the panel)
[01:12] <franklin> njal: built into my ubuntu kernal?
[01:12] <ancient> it is all set to max
[01:12] <devilz> can someone help me set apache2 and php5 together?
[01:12] <devilz> i installed both packages
[01:12] <c|int> who needs help with nvidia
[01:12] <music_man_nz> devilz - get XAMPP
[01:12] <cafuego> woland_: Not currently (but it's a bit offtopic here kinda)
[01:13] <c|int> hello all
[01:13] <rbil> ancient, some mics require mic boost ... add that within amixer and use it if it's there
[01:13] <woland_> cafuego, thats a shame
[01:13] <devilz> music_man_nz: what is that
[01:13] <cafuego> devilz: 'sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5'
[01:13] <njal> franklin: Yes, the correct drivers
[01:13] <c|int> just woke up, and have to work tonight, new job... floor staff, / security at strip club downtown lol :-)
[01:13] <ancient> rbil micboost?
[01:13] <woland_> it's on mark shuttleworths want list
[01:13] <devilz> cafuego: i did
[01:13] <music_man_nz> devilz: It is a package with PHP5, MYSQL, Apache
[01:13] <music_man_nz> You can get it for Linux - LAMPP
[01:13] <jackson> hey. I forgot to unmount my flash drive before unplugging it and now it's broken. I've tried formatting it and creating a disklabel in GParted but I can't manage to fix it. I even tried formatting it in WinXP to no avail. any ideas?
[01:14] <cafuego> woland_: if it's USB it might not be too hard to write drivers, but the protocol is likely proprietary.
[01:14] <rbil> ancient, if your soundcard driver has the capability it can be added to amixer
[01:14] <jvai> is network manager in dapper by default? or is it in the uni/multiunivrese repos?
[01:14] <ancient> but how
[01:14] <devilz> music_man_nz: i have everything
[01:14] <music_man_nz> ok
[01:14] <devilz> now i need what to add into httpd.conf and stuff like that
[01:14] <cafuego> devilz: Then it should all be installed and set up - in theory.
[01:14] <cafuego> devilz: 'sudo a2enmod php5; sudo apache2ctl graceful'
[01:14] <woland_> cafuego, will linux-image-2.6.15-27-686 have dependencies?
[01:14] <jvai> !network-manager
[01:14] <rbil> open the mixer settings, then Edit .. Preferences and see whether you have such a thing
[01:14] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[01:14] <ancient> ah rbil done it
[01:14] <ancient> i will try it now
[01:15] <BlueKnight> yay, I got it to start the nic on boot now...
[01:15] <BlueKnight> does anyone know of a package like WebMin or Plesk that is in the repository?
[01:15] <music_man_nz> What is the command for root explorer?
[01:15] <sidny4> people are so unhappy, sorry, at work providing over-the-phone support, miss anyting?
[01:15] <jvai> ty ubotu
[01:15] <cafuego> woland_: initramfs-tools, coreutils, fileutils, module-init-tools
[01:15] <devilz> enabled and loaded cafuego
[01:15] <cosmodad> has anyone else experienced weird network card breakdowns since dapper upgrade? Sometimes when NFS traffic is high, out of a sudden I cannot use the network at all unless I ifdown/ifup eth0 (using tg3 module).
[01:15] <cafuego> woland_: ... they should all be present already anyway.
[01:16] <woland_> cafuego, are they in base?
[01:16] <c|int> for the most part ubotu, for broadcom dumb butt, ya have to throw firmware in /lib/firmware/ then modprode it :)
[01:16] <cafuego> devilz: you're all set then.
[01:16] <clearzen> Is madwifi included by default with edgy?
[01:16] <jackson> hey. I forgot to unmount my flash drive before unplugging it and now it's broken. I've tried formatting it and creating a disklabel in GParted but I can't manage to fix it. I even tried formatting it in WinXP to no avail. any ideas?
[01:16] <franklin> njal: How do I know if I've got the drivers for hfs+?
[01:16] <c|int> and ubotu, I"m going compile that, wifi radar, it will help it way better than what the network manager can
[01:16] <cafuego> clearzen: in the restricted-modules-$(uname -r) package
[01:16] <c|int> :-)
[01:16] <devilz> cafuego: nice, but why i cant see php site in localhost?
[01:16] <woland_> jackson, bin it
[01:16] <cafuego> franklin: it's called 'hfsplus'
[01:16] <c|int> clearzen: , what you tyrin to do?
[01:16] <sidny4> !ubotu
[01:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:16] <cafuego> devilz: firefiox spitting out a .php file?
[01:16] <VanessaE> jackson: see if you can re-partition it using cfdisk
[01:16] <jackson> woland_ what does that mean?
[01:16] <devilz> and my httpd.conf is empty
[01:17] <c|int> all knowin my butt ;P
[01:17] <devilz> cafuego: i guess?
[01:17] <c|int> ^_^
[01:17] <clearzen> c|int: I just bought a d-link wna-2330 card and it is supported by default by madwifi
[01:17] <c|int> oh okay
[01:17] <cafuego> devilz: Yeh, it's done in a module-sepecific cfg file (see /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/)
[01:17] <jvai> jackson, try to reboot, it's a neccesary evil for me & this bootleg radioshack scandisk, i dont no why it's like that
[01:17] <clearzen> c|int: so i'm trying to get it to work
[01:17] <njal> franklin: You would have to have a look in to your kernel with make menuconfig and even then you would need the kernel source, I don't know much about it after that, any kernel i played with broke
[01:17] <cafuego> devilz: Just empty the firefix cache and restart it - should be right.
[01:17] <c|int> I had my deals , with my wireless, and my new notebook back in October, of 2005, let me tell ya, I didnt' get wireless working til spring of 2006 lol
[01:18] <devilz> cafuego: ok
[01:18] <c|int> I was busy with, hacking vista, and other things on windows, xp :)
[01:18] <cafuego> c|int: Well, the driver wasn't functional until then, so that's not surprising.
[01:18] <devilz> cafuego: is that ok if my httpd.conf is empty? i just have loadmodule php5..
[01:18] <BlueKnight> does anyone know of a package like WebMin or Plesk that is in the repository?
[01:18] <clearzen> c|int: the mad wifi drivers will allow monitor mode right?
[01:18] <c|int> what build.. are you using from ubuntu< Or?
[01:19] <jackson> VanessaE: when I try to sudo cfdisk /dev/sdc (the drive) it gives me a fatal error: cannot read drive. the drive shows up in GParted
[01:19] <xipietotec> uhh....I think I have too many files in pixmaps...it's not loading them all through the configuration tool
[01:19] <xipietotec> (like when you want to associate a custom icon)
[01:19] <thor> BlueKnight: what are you trying to admin?
[01:19] <music_man_nz> ok well i guess i'll find out myself
[01:19] <music_man_nz> sigh
[01:19] <VanessaE> jackson: does it bomb out entirely?  or does it mention starting with a zero partition table?
[01:20] <c|int> I havn't got into the new cards yet, I'm waiting for 802.11 n to be stable, and implemented for support in ubuntu , etc
[01:20] <LjL> i have a USB IRDA port and it shows up as /dev/ttyUSB0 when i plug it in. however, i'd like proper IrCOMM, but /dev/ircomm0 doesn't quite work (actually, hangs programs that try accessing it, mostly), even after running /etc/init.d/irda-utils (which runs irattach on /dev/ttyUSB0)
[01:20] <c|int> on my laptop.. I just got the broadcom, 802.11 b/g
[01:21] <VanessaE> jackson: try cfdisk -z /dev/sdc
[01:21] <RunWithScissor> I have a minor problem. I've downloaded the Firefox 2.0 tar.gz, and I'm wondering where I put everything so it becomes my default browser (instead of Firefox 1.5)?
[01:21] <VanessaE> see if that works (it's worth a shot!)
[01:22] <tonyb2006> happy mayhem day eve eve!
[01:22] <tonyb2006> (yes two eves)
[01:22] <caonex>  /j #beryl
[01:22] <jackson> VenessaE: no it just bombs out entirely. cfdisk -z returns the same thing
[01:23] <VanessaE> crap
[01:23] <maxflax> what the heck is a MCA bus?
[01:23] <Leone> hey anyone can help me with my internet connection?'
[01:23] <c|int> anyone here, working with edgy eft..
[01:23] <c|int> latest build, etc.
[01:23] <jackson> VanessaE: also in GParted it's recognized as the 2gb drive which it is
[01:23] <LjL> !edgy | c|int
[01:23] <ubotu> c|int: edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:23] <VanessaE> ok, maybe your system is confused about whether the drive is even plugged in.  Can I assume you've already rebooted since you accidentically unplugged it?
[01:24] <LjL> maxflax: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
[01:24] <maxflax> VanessaE, u know what MCA bus is and do I need it in my kernel?
[01:24] <jackson> VanessaE: yep. I've rebooted and then plugged it in again, rebooted with it plugged in. neither one works
[01:24] <c|int> yeah, I know lol.. oh okay, so ubuntu+1, thanks ubotu, and you LjL, for triggering him :)
[01:24] <c|int> or her :)
[01:24] <VanessaE> MCE is MicroChannel Architecture....oollllllddds stuff
[01:24] <VanessaE> like PC/Jr era I think
[01:24] <VanessaE> er, MCA..
[01:24] <maxflax> LjL, Do I need it in my kernel?
[01:24] <rbil> VanessaE, yes it goes back to then :-)
[01:25] <LjL> maxflax: no
[01:25] <cliebow_> .join #ltsp
[01:25] <maxflax> LjL, cool.. so it's like the support for ISA bus.. that dissaperd along time ago.. lol
[01:25] <VanessaE> basically.
[01:26] <LjL> maxflax, no, ISA stayed for much longer than MCA. a 1.2GHz machine i have has ISA still.
[01:26] <LjL> (and i hate not being able to use my AWE64 ISA card besides...)
[01:26] <cliebow_> s
[01:26] <KeffoX> fresh install, apt-get says "Unknown error executing gpgv".. ?
[01:26] <rbil> MCA was better than ISA, but was proprietary to IBM
[01:27] <VanessaE> jackson: ok, well it sounds like it's totally hosed.
[01:27] <Leone> anyone can help me ? i cant connect to internet, look here if u wanna help me
[01:27] <VanessaE> sorry :(
[01:27] <VanessaE> can you verify that your USB (or whatever) port is still good?
[01:27] <jackson> VanessaE: dang. I was hoping it wasn't. thanks though
[01:28] <maxflax> the kernel is bloated with uneccisary modules and stuff.. I've removed many many modules. gonna be intresting how it perfoms after comjpiling.. and how long the compile will take.. 1-2hours .. :)
[01:28] <goofey> is there a way to find out what package created a file?
[01:28] <godtvisken> Is there an official Firefox 2 package for ubuntu?
[01:28] <LjL> goofey: dpkg -S file
[01:28] <goofey> LjL: thank you
[01:29] <LjL> godtvisken: no
[01:29] <maxflax> Leone, I see u typing.. I think that u can connect to internet.. :) lol just kiddng
[01:29] <VanessaE> max: remember, don't expect a large performance boost.
[01:29] <Leone> maxflax,  i am in life cd
[01:29] <Leone> not good joke
[01:29] <godtvisken> LjL: why not?
[01:29] <LjL> maxflax: and on the other hand, do expect lack of automatic security fixes ;)
[01:30] <maxflax> Leone, it's late.. all my jokes are bad at this hour :)
[01:30] <LjL> godtvisken: because there isn't one. heck, when did it come out? yesterday?
[01:30] <Leone> i see
[01:30] <Leone> so shut up
[01:30] <Leone> lol
[01:30] <jackson> VanessaE: yeah. I've tried it in my (working) mouse's USB port and everything
[01:30] <RunWithScissor> godtvisken: It was released today. I just downloaded the tar.gz, trying to put everything in the right place.
[01:30] <mitch_> Does anyone know  if it's possible for me to disable certain apps from loading on boot? Daemons, etc etc.
[01:30] <VanessaE> ok..
[01:30] <KeffoX> Anyone know why gpgv fails?
[01:30] <VanessaE> now this is just a normal drive inside the enclosure right?
[01:31] <godtvisken> RunWithScissor: Oh ok, I thought it was released sooner. Do you go to LL, btw?
[01:31] <VanessaE> try ripping the disk out and putting it directly in your box
[01:31] <desi> whats wrong with this
[01:31] <desi> shiv@ubuntu:~$ sudo chmod 700 ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/*.*
[01:31] <desi> chmod: cannot access `/home/shiv/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/*.*': No such file or directory
[01:31] <maxflax> LjL, u mean security of the kernel.. I still can download stuff via apt ?
[01:31] <VanessaE> it's prolly just a normal IDE disk
[01:31] <LjL> maxflax: not kernel fixes.
[01:32] <harisund> Does anyone know of a good VPN solution? I want to access my 192.168.5.0/24 subnet at home from outside. What is the best solution?
[01:32] <maxflax> LjL, ok... I can live with that.. I can recompile the kernel when I want the new modules
[01:32] <thor> harisund: are you running linux at home?
[01:32] <jackson> VanessaE: mkay. no reason not to, I suppose
[01:32] <harisund> thor Indeed!
[01:32] <VanessaE> *nod*
[01:33] <Digit0> HI
[01:33] <thor> harisund: open one port on the linux box...a weird one like 54987
[01:33] <RunWithScissor> harisund: I'm new to Ubuntu, but in previous distros I used shorewall to do that.
[01:33] <dontbanme> question: I'm dist-upgrading to edgy and synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-desktop, is that normal?
[01:33] <thor> harisund: then run sshd off that port.
[01:33] <harisund> thor yes, I am doing that.
[01:33] <VanessaE> if nothing else you might still be able to use that extra 160GB or whatever it was
[01:33] <setrak> hello guys !
[01:33] <thor> harisund: you can ssh -x to that port...that puts you in the linux box
[01:33] <rag> please ls /usr/src/linux is empty, why?
[01:33] <setrak> hard to start on ubuntu !
[01:34] <harisund> thor I have plenty of services running on my Ubuntu boxes here. .. I can' keep opening ports on my router .. well, I could but that kind of defeats the purpose
[01:34] <rag> where is kernel on ubuntu?
[01:34] <Digit0> mi systems have decided to make updatedb's regularly
[01:34] <setrak> how can I read a divx?
[01:34] <harisund> those Yes, I am familiar with what you are seeing and that is the short term solution I am adopting now.
[01:34] <thor> harisund:no no....your router only has one open port.....to one box
[01:34] <Digit0> how can I change this ?
[01:34] <Wiseguy> hey guys has anyone installed E17 from the cvs repo?
[01:34] <c|int> okay awesome guys
[01:34] <maxflax> VanessaE, do I need support for PCI hotplug? cab't imagine that I will remove pci cards during the computer running
[01:34] <preaction> !restricted-formats
[01:34] <harisund> thor Yes, I understand what you are saying. What I am saying is that my equirements are more than just the SSH port.
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restricted-formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <VanessaE> nope
[01:34] <c|int> I installed the xchm, and viewing chm book np.. :)))
[01:34] <VanessaE> you probably don't have PCI hotplug
[01:34] <rag> please, where is kernel on ubuntu?
[01:35] <LjL> !restrictedformats
[01:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:35] <harisund> rag what do you mean where is kernel?
[01:35] <harisund> rag what do you want to do?
[01:35] <rag> harisund: locate kernel
[01:35] <thor> harisund: you can open more than one port...but every port you open increases the security risk
[01:35] <rag> harisund: ls /usr/src/linux is empty for me
[01:35] <harisund> thor which is precisely why I want a VPN solution
[01:35] <harisund> rag yes, UBuntu doesn't ship with the kernel sources by default
[01:36] <c|int> LjL:
[01:36] <dontbanme> question: I'm dist-upgrading to edgy and synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-desktop, is that normal?
[01:36] <cafuego> rag: You need to install the kernel headers if you want to compile 3rd aprty modules. (or the whole source tree)
[01:36] <rag> harisund, not is like gentoo
[01:36] <c|int> you stilll around?
[01:36] <harisund> rag you will have to download it .. I believe the sources are called linux-source-$(uname -r) or something like that.
[01:36] <Leone> http://paste.debian.net/15493 , i cant connect to internet , anyone can help me please!!
[01:36] <thor> harisund: right...the way I set my home network up I had total access to all my linux and windows boxes, via 'ssh -x'
[01:36] <rag> harisund, aptitude install linux-sources-`uname -r`is ok?
[01:36] <Digit0> my system have decided to make updatedb's regularly
[01:36] <yacoob> ...release on Thursday? :0
[01:36] <harisund> rag in gentoo you get the sources by default. Not so in UBuntu. You will have ot download it manually
[01:36] <Digit0> how can I change this ?
[01:37] <yacoob> s/0/)/
[01:37] <rag> harisund, ah ok
[01:37] <Chippy> does anyone know how to get firefox to register certain mouse buttons as forward and backwards?
[01:37] <rag> harisund, aptitude install linux-sources-`uname -r`is ok?
[01:37] <harisund> rag I am not sure. Just search before hand. use aptitude search sources | grep linux or something like that.
[01:37] <VanessaE> Leone, you need to load the driver for your network device.
[01:37] <harisund> rag it should be. If it errors out, try searching for it. Else use a GUI tool like Synaptic
[01:38] <VanessaE> or wait, strike that
[01:38] <VanessaE> (misread)
[01:38] <Leone> VanessaE, its loaded
[01:38] <VanessaE> ifconfig -a
[01:38] <rag> harisund, thx try it
[01:38] <VanessaE> (-->pastebin)
[01:38] <dontbanme> question: I'm dist-upgrading to edgy and synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-desktop, is that normal?
[01:38] <Leone> VanessaE, there say
[01:38] <Leone> http://paste.debian.net/15493
[01:38] <jrib>  dontbanme no not really
[01:38] <Leone> u can prove that the drivers are loaaded
[01:39] <Chippy> does anyone know how to get firefox to register certain mouse buttons as forward and backwards?
[01:39] <dontbanme> hrmm....
[01:39] <VanessaE> Leone: I need ifconfig -a
[01:39] <c|int> anyone here, want to work with me, with reverse engineering ubuntu edgy
[01:39] <c|int> just let me know
[01:39] <jrib> Chippy: I use xbindkeys to make the mouse buttons emit alt+left and alt+right
[01:39] <devilz> can someone help me with phpBB and apache?
[01:39] <Chippy> jrib: okay thanks
[01:40] <jrib> Chippy: reverse engineering ubuntu edgy? edgy is open source :P  What do you mean?
[01:40] <dontbanme> c|int: what's there to reverse engineer? it's fully open source
[01:40] <rag> harisund: linux-images? this package?
[01:40] <c|int> ;)
[01:40] <Chippy> jrib: wrong person :)
[01:40] <dontbanme> other than the non-free drivers
[01:40] <KeffoX> Again, does anyone have any idea why GPGV fails??
[01:40] <jrib> yeah... :/
[01:40] <rag> harisund: linux-image? this package?
[01:40] <cafuego> KeffoX: are you missing the public key?
[01:40] <harisund> rag no, I think it is called linux-sources- or linux-source..
[01:40] <setrak> Hi people ! I have the easiest question in the world : how come I can't write or paste anything into my terminal when it's asking for my password?
[01:40] <cafuego> linux-source-$(uname -r) or linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:41] <KeffoX> cafuego: You tell me.. It's a fresh install (xubuntu), haven't done anything yet
[01:41] <setrak> If u could please help me, it blocks me for anything..
[01:41] <cafuego> setrak: You can and are, it just not echoing it back to you.
[01:41] <KeffoX> cafuego: I have two keys (ftp & cd)
[01:41] <cafuego> KeffoX: is gnupg installed?
[01:41] <livingtm> im having trouble with the edgy amd64 iso. ive downloaded and burned it three times, but i keep getting wierd timeout errors after i select install or  verify disk
[01:41] <KeffoX> cafuego: initially bzip2 says stdin is not bzip2 vaild
[01:41] <dontbanme> jrib: so, why might Synaptic tell me that it needs to remove ubuntu-desktop? I don't think I have any weird apps that would conflict with it
[01:42] <cafuego> KeffoX: broken package list maybe
[01:42] <jrib> dontbanme: how are you using synaptic to upgrade?
[01:42] <KeffoX> cafuego: no, I've verified, restored, etc a couple of times
[01:42] <cafuego> anyways, i need to run
[01:42] <livingtm> my old dapper i386 iso seems to work fine though
[01:42] <Leone> how can i see the groups?
[01:42] <dontbanme> jrib: "mark all upgrades" in smart upgrade mode
[01:42] <myflugel> im a total noob at linux and have a question on how to install java plugin in firefox
[01:43] <rag> harisund: ok , i have here linux-source-2.6.15 , but uname -r command return 2.6.15-26-386
[01:43] <harisund> I guess you have the latest sources only.
[01:43] <jrib> dontbanme: I see, well I would recommend using apt-get instead after updating sources.list.  Then if you still have problems, pastebin the output
[01:44] <harisund> The -26-386 is just another revision for the 386 architecture. So I guess you have the latest sources.
[01:44] <Leone> how can i see the users groups?1
[01:44] <VanessaE> id
[01:44] <plan> nai
[01:44] <harisund> Now you should find a .tar.bz2 file in /usr/src.. you can extract that.
[01:44] <jrib> Leone: the 'groups' command
[01:44] <dontbanme> jrib: apt reports the same thing
[01:44] <harisund> rag ^^
[01:44] <plan> HELLO EVERYONE
[01:44] <myflugel> hi
[01:44] <harisund> Is anybody here familiar with OpenVPN here? At all?
[01:44] <myflugel> im a total noob at linux and have a question on how to install java plugin in firefox
[01:44] <jrib> dontbanme: pastebin all the output
[01:44] <Leone> jrib, i cant see
[01:45] <jrib> Leone: what do you mean?
[01:45] <rag> harisund: and then install it?
[01:45] <Leone> to see the users and the groups
[01:45] <rag> harisund: install it without risk?
[01:45] <VanessaE> Leone: id
[01:45] <VanessaE> that shows all groups a user is in
[01:45] <jrib> Leone: type 'groups' in a terminal, or 'id' as others have suggested
[01:46] <VanessaE> as in,  id leone
[01:46] <myflugel> im a total noob at linux and have a question on how to install java plugin in firefox? anyone? or give me a link
[01:46] <jrib> ubotu: tell myflugel about java
[01:46] <XVampireX> !java5-plugin
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java5-plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <XVampireX> !info java5-plugin
[01:47] <dcstimm> do you guys know what initrd file the shutdown files are read from the one in /boot/initrd.gz or the one on the root of the cd in /casper?
[01:47] <ubotu> Package java5-plugin does not exist in any distro I know
[01:47] <XVampireX> hmm
[01:47] <jrib> XVampireX: you need sun- at the beginning iirc
[01:47] <XVampireX> !java
[01:47] <dcstimm> for the livecd
[01:47] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:47] <toby> Chippy: try mouse gestures not quite the same but close
[01:47] <toby> Chippy: right click move left=back etc
[01:47] <dontbanme> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28170/
[01:47] <dcstimm> do you guys know what initrd file the shutdown files are read from the one in /boot/initrd.gz or the one on the root of the cd in /casper? for the livecd?
[01:47] <XVampireX> myflugel, there
[01:47] <myflugel> ok i will read it now
[01:47] <myflugel> thankx
[01:47] <Vich|Away> omfg
[01:47] <Vich|Away> he who must not be named
[01:47] <dontbanme> jrib: your thoughts?
[01:48] <dontbanme> rans?
[01:48] <maxflax> whats is a ATM network?
[01:48] <XVampireX> he who must be named
[01:48] <jrib> dontbanme: "interesting" atm
[01:48] <anp> hi all. after the upgrade from 6.10 beta to the current version, i get   "package has no field Python-Version" when try to dpkg -r k3d. anyone can help ?
[01:48] <XVampireX> At the moment network :P Just kidding
[01:48] <dontbanme> jrib: ?
[01:48] <poningru> !grub
[01:48] <Vich> yeah, XVampireX
[01:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:48] <Vich> a limitation of irc
[01:48] <Vich> lol
[01:48] <Vich> and now it's Gandalf
[01:48] <Leone> i wanna se the gruops of the users in the sesion how can i do it
[01:48] <Vich> what is this?
[01:48] <Vich> the fantasy film convention?
[01:49] <gandalf> ?
[01:49] <Chippy> jrib: in xbindkeys how do you bind a button to do other buttons?  the examples only have it running programs etc
[01:49] <plan> who here recently switched to Linux?
[01:49] <gandalf> Who are you and what is Vich?
[01:49] <toby> Chippy: try mouse gestures extension
[01:49] <Vich> I am Vich
[01:49] <Vich> and I am Vich
[01:49] <jrib> Chippy: "/usr/bin/xvkbd -xsendevent -text "\[Alt_L] \[Left] ""    <-- this will run the svkbd command so you will need to ahve it installed
[01:49] <gandalf> BItch
[01:49] <Vich> no
[01:49] <Vich> with a V
[01:49] <Vich> and no t
[01:49] <gandalf> later
[01:49] <jrib> dontbanme: you have a backup?
[01:50] <blackmanheartiez> THIS IS HOW MUCH WE LAUGH AT LILO LOL LILO http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-bike - BURN IN HELL PIECE OF SHIT I WILL FUCK YOUR WYFE AND KID LOL - LOL LILO FUCKING USELESS JEW
[01:50] <jrib> !ops
[01:50] <blackmanheartiez> THIS IS HOW MUCH WE LAUGH AT LILO LOL LILO http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-bike - BURN IN HELL PIECE OF SHIT I WILL FUCK YOUR WYFE AND KID LOL - LOL LILO FUCKING USELESS JEW
[01:50] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[01:50] <blackmanheartiez> THIS IS HOW MUCH WE LAUGH AT LILO LOL LILO http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-bike - BURN IN HELL PIECE OF SHIT I WILL FUCK YOUR WYFE AND KID LOL - LOL LILO FUCKING USELESS JEW
[01:50] <LjL> !help
[01:50] <blackmanheartiez> THIS IS HOW MUCH WE LAUGH AT LILO LOL LILO http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-bike - BURN IN HELL PIECE OF SHIT I WILL FUCK YOUR WYFE AND KID LOL - LOL LILO FUCKING USELESS JEW
[01:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:50] <LoRez> Warning: `blackmanheartiez' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[01:50] <blackmanheartiez> THIS IS HOW MUCH WE LAUGH AT LILO LOL LILO http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-bike - BURN IN HELL PIECE OF SHIT I WILL FUCK YOUR WYFE AND KID LOL - LOL LILO FUCKING USELESS JEW
[01:50] <blackmanheartiez> THIS IS HOW MUCH WE LAUGH AT LILO LOL LILO http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-bike - BURN IN HELL PIECE OF SHIT I WILL FUCK YOUR WYFE AND KID LOL - LOL LILO FUCKING USELESS JEW
[01:50] <Vich> lol
[01:50] <dontbanme> jrib: yes
[01:50] <LjL> did i actually type !help?
[01:50] <mitch_> Whoa.
[01:50] <jvai> who broke the damn
[01:50] <VanessaE> WTF??
[01:50] <Vich> someone should ban him
[01:50] <blackmanheartiez> HY
[01:50] <Vich> BAN
[01:50] <blackmanheartiez> NO
[01:50] <myflugel> i downloaded the java5 file and its a .bin HOW to run it? sry i'm noob
[01:50] <VanessaE> gevalt!
[01:50] <blackmanheartiez> THIS IS HOW MUCH WE LAUGH AT LILO LOL LILO http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-bike - BURN IN HELL PIECE OF SHIT I WILL FUCK YOUR WYFE AND KID LOL - LOL LILO FUCKING USELESS JEW
[01:50] <Vich> lol, there's no ops in here
[01:50] <Chippy> jrib: awesome thanks
[01:50] <poningru> ...
[01:50] <jrib> myflugel: read the wiki, that is not the best way to install java
[01:50] <poningru> !ops
[01:50] <Vich> how do people get banned>
[01:50] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[01:50] <VanessaE> give it up, blackmanheartiez
[01:50] <blackmanheartiez> THIS IS HOW MUCH WE LAUGH AT LILO LOL LILO http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-bike - BURN IN HELL PIECE OF SHIT I WILL FUCK YOUR WYFE AND KID LOL - LOL LILO FUCKING USELESS JEW
[01:50] <blackmanheartiez> THIS IS HOW MUCH WE LAUGH AT LILO LOL LILO http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-bike - BURN IN HELL PIECE OF SHIT I WILL FUCK YOUR WYFE AND KID LOL - LOL LILO FUCKING USELESS JEW
[01:50] <blackmanheartiez> THIS IS HOW MUCH WE LAUGH AT LILO LOL LILO http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-bike - BURN IN HELL PIECE OF SHIT I WILL FUCK YOUR WYFE AND KID LOL - LOL LILO FUCKING USELESS JEW
[01:50] <XVampireX> !ops
[01:50] <VanessaE> that shit doesn't mean anything to us.
[01:50] <LjL> LoRez: kline please!
[01:50] <blackmanheartiez> THIS IS HOW MUCH WE LAUGH AT LILO LOL LILO http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-bike - BURN IN HELL PIECE OF SHIT I WILL FUCK YOUR WYFE AND KID LOL - LOL LILO FUCKING USELESS JEW
[01:50] <LoRez> Warning: `blackmanheartiez' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[01:51] <myflugel> jrib: what wiki?
[01:51] <Vich> LOL
[01:51] <jvai> snap i cant swiiin
[01:51] <secretlondon> gnaa :(
[01:51] <Comrade_S> idiots
[01:51] <Vich> the ops stay hidden lol
[01:51] <poningru> !grub
[01:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:51] <Vich> clever
[01:51] <jrib> myflugel: did you get a private message from ubotu?
[01:51] <LjL> !traffic
[01:51] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, and join the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for your understanding!
[01:51] <myflugel> jrin: now i see it
[01:51] <jrib> dontbanme: I would dist-upgrade and then try to install ubuntu-desktop afterwards, and then dist-upgrade again
[01:51] <VanessaE> and besides...  I use lilo and I like it, thankyouverymuch :)
[01:52] <XVampireX> VanessaE, they mean the founder of this network
[01:52] <dontbanme> jrib: ok, I was just wondering
[01:52] <VanessaE> ohhh
[01:52] <secretlondon> who recently died
[01:52] <myflugel> ok thnx
[01:52] <VanessaE> that's right, I remember now
[01:52] <secretlondon> he mentioned that he was from gnaa - they are a well known trolling org
[01:52] <secretlondon> so just ignore
[01:52] <VanessaE> yep I know, seen plenty of their crap on /.
[01:52] <jrib> dontbanme: it shouldn't cause too much trouble, it just won't be as smoot
[01:52] <jrib> smooth even
[01:53] <LjL> right, let's just be back to ubuntu support please
[01:53] <jvai> hoary will die next teusday... (sniff)
[01:53] <mitch_> Whoa.
[01:53] <mitch_> Does anyone know  if it's possible for me to disable certain apps from loading on boot? Daemons, etc etc.
[01:53] <secretlondon> jvai: time to upgrade :)
[01:53] <dontbanme> ##windows' topic still says RIP lilo - been a while though
[01:53] <XVampireX> maybe ban the word gnaa?
[01:53] <jrib> mitch_: system > administration > services
[01:53] <jvai> lmao.. i kno.. tonyte, when i get home
[01:53] <secretlondon> xvampireX: they'd just workround
[01:53] <dontbanme> VanessaE: really? they're usually at 0 or -1, so I haven't seen a lot of GNAA
[01:53] <VanessaE> mitch: remove the symlinks from /etc/rc2.d for the entries you want to leave out
[01:53] <plan> will it cause me trouble if I install KDE in Ubuntu and use both?
[01:53] <mitch_> jrib, That stops things like cupd, hplips etc
[01:53] <LjL> plan: no
[01:53] <VanessaE> (assuming your default runlevel is 2)
[01:53] <jvai> how will this gpl3 effect us in ubuntu?
[01:53] <XVampireX> oh well
[01:53] <dontbanme> edgy CDs not shipping :-(
[01:54] <jrib> mitch_: yes, those should be options
[01:54] <XVampireX> jvai, it won't
[01:54] <LjL> jvai: good question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:54] <jvai> ok
[01:54] <mitch_> jrib: Thank you sir.
[01:54] <VanessaE> dontbanme, yeah I know, but sometimes I feel a little masochistic and read at -1 :)
[01:54] <XVampireX> jvai, linux kernel won't be using GPLv3
[01:54] <jvai> thank gtod!
[01:54] <dontbanme> jvai: it'll have no effect unless the packages use GPLv3, which I don't expect a lot of people to do
[01:54] <setrak> Thank you guys : easiest way is still gstreamer to play restricted formats
[01:55] <livingtm> has anyone successfully installed using the edgy amd647iso?
[01:55] <LjL> !edgy > livingtm
[01:55] <jvai> but what about the othr software, like the DE's & underlying sw
[01:55] <ProTeus4> hello, I am trying to setup a dhcpd server and get the error No subnet declaration for eth0 (0.0.0.0). So far I have been trying to use the guide on easylinux. Anyone think they can help?
[01:55] <jvai> riiight
[01:55] <livingtm> amd 64 iso that is
[01:55] <XVampireX> !dhcp
[01:55] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 304 kB
[01:55] <XVampireX> !dhcpd
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhcpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <XVampireX> ah
[01:55] <VanessaE> too late *fires up flamethrower*
[01:55] <VanessaE> :)
[01:56] <Dr_willis> Read an artocal about the GPL3 from the 'kernel developers' point of view just today.
[01:56] <anp> hi all. after the upgrade from 6.10 beta to the current version, i get   "package has no field Python-Version" when try to dpkg -r k3d. anyone can help ?
[01:56] <jvai> i kinda think the gpl is what's stopping ms from outright bying linux, & the fact that no1 owns linux
[01:56] <sophacles> hi all. i have dapper installed on one of my computers, and i am wondering how to set it up to use fluxbox as my main wm,
[01:56] <Comrade_S> jvai: Linus Torvalds holds the copyright to Linux
[01:57] <VanessaE> jvia; not to mention that without that license, M$ could just outright steal everything that isn't tied down, and get away with it.
[01:57] <dontbanme> jvai: then you're wrong, the gpl reserves ownership to the creator and the FSF
[01:57] <jvai> long live mr Torvalds
[01:57] <jrib> sophacles: install fluxbox from the universe repository, then select it at the login screen (click the "options" button in the corner)
[01:57] <VanessaE> hear, hear.
[01:57] <Fastly> i've added the repos on the RestrictedFormats wiki page to sources.list and now when i apt-get update i get the following error: W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
[01:57] <toby> sophacles: or fluxbuntu
[01:57] <jvai> dontbanne: i stand corrected
[01:58] <jvai> lol
[01:58] <VanessaE> I have a project for an old 8-bitter that's being released under GPL (not that it's really necessary)
[01:58] <VanessaE> if I ever finish it :)
[01:58] <Comrade_S> hehe
[01:58] <dontbanme> VanessaE: 8-bit?
[01:58] <VanessaE> commodore.
[01:58] <jvai> dontbanne is.. Stallman?? .. ???
[01:59] <VanessaE> heh, RMS here?  riiiiight :)
[01:59] <jvai> lol
[01:59] <jrib> lol, the offtopic stuff should go to #ubuntu-offtopic though :)
[01:59] <VanessaE> yeah yeah
[02:00] <sophacles> toby what is fluxbuntu/
[02:00] <rbil> VanessaE, I thought the Commodore64 was 64 bit?
[02:00] <dontbanme> jrib: funny, last time I said something even remotely offtopic, gnomefreak permabanned me (I think my old hostname is still blacklisted
[02:00] <Dr_willis> C64 is a 8 bit 6502 cpu
[02:01] <myflugel> jrib: its installed now but not working the java thingy
[02:01] <Dr_willis> i think it was 6502
[02:01] <VanessaE> C64 is 8-bit 6510 CPU.
[02:01] <jrib> myflugel: ok, is sun-java5-plugin installed?
[02:01] <jvai> i'm gonna upgrade to dapper from hoary tonyte... *pours more white choco macha out for hoary*
[02:01] <VanessaE> jesus, are you nuts?
[02:01] <rbil> VanessaE, maybe that's why I couldn't get it to run VMWare?
[02:01] <VanessaE> Hoary -> Dapper...sounds risky :)
[02:02] <wildchild> hello
[02:02] <wildchild> I can't istall macromedia flash player..
[02:02] <wildchild> NOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the
[02:02] <wildchild>       components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.
[02:02] <wildchild> this appears during the installation..
[02:02] <jrib> wildchild: how are you installing?
[02:02] <wildchild> 1) download
[02:02] <dontbanme> jvai: I'd just do a fresh install of edgy over hoary
[02:02] <myflugel> jrib: yes and i have checked it at java website but it doesnt pass
[02:02] <wildchild> 1)utar
[02:02] <jrib> ubotu: tell wildchild about flash
[02:03] <wildchild> jrib..
[02:03] <jrib> myflugel: ok, ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/  <-- put the result of this command on pastebin please
[02:03] <wildchild> why can't simple just install it ./install-macromedia
[02:03] <dontbanme> wildchild: all you have to do is copy the .so to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[02:04] <dontbanme> *duh*
[02:04] <wildchild> dontbanme where is .so
[02:04] <jvai> dontbanne: soo, is edgy moreso leaning to stable than unstable? & i am thinking the same, about doing edgy instead of dapper
[02:04] <VanessaE> edgy is stable
[02:04] <goofey> has anyone seen, on a default install of ubuntu-server 6.10, where going to http://localhost:631/ brings up the text of the html rather than rendering the html?
[02:04] <myflugel> jrib: it says libunixprintplugin.so
[02:04] <dontbanme> wildchild: I assume in the directory you utarred to? it should be something like libflashplayer.so
[02:04] <madc> goofey, add the mime type to your httpd.conf
[02:05] <jrib> myflugel: apt-cache policy sun-java5-plugin | grep -i Installed
[02:05] <goofey> madc: the html?
[02:05] <alex_> Hello, how do i install the new version of firefox safley?
[02:05] <madc> goofey, yes the mime type so that apache knows howto serve it.
[02:05] <alex_> replacing the current one (default one) in ubuntu
[02:05] <madc> alex_, wait for it to show up in the repos.
[02:05] <alex_> ALso
[02:05] <myflugel> jrib: im total nub in linux i installed it 6 hours ago and my videocard worked after 4 hours so dont know what ya mean :)
[02:06] <jrib> alex_: edgy has the new version, edgy will be stable in 2 days
[02:06] <alex_> when edgy comes out
[02:06] <alex_> should i format?
[02:06] <Fastly> can anyone here recommend the best way of getting wine in edgy?
[02:06] <madc> alex_ I wouldnt
[02:06] <jrib> myflugel: sorry, just type that whole line into a terminal and press enter
[02:06] <alex_> because i upgraded to edgy
[02:06] <alex_> from dapper
[02:06] <alex_> and my system crashed
[02:06] <madc> Fastly, apt-get install wine
[02:06] <dontbanme> !firefox > alex_
[02:06] <goofey> madc: ok - but does apache really listen on port 631?
[02:06] <tonyb2006> ICEWEASEL
[02:06] <madc> alex_, to be expected you installed a development version.
[02:06] <madc> goofey, no
[02:06] <madc> not by default
[02:06] <tonyb2006> gmm
[02:07] <goofey> madc: doesn't cups have it'sa own webserver?
[02:07] <tonyb2006> !iceweasel
[02:07] <dontbanme> alex_: just download the firefox binaries from mozilla (you get the nice artwork this way too) and extract to /opt
[02:07] <Fastly> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iceweasel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <dontbanme> goofey: cups listens on 631
[02:07] <jrib> !info wine
[02:07] <jvai> bon echo isa nice name for the new browser
[02:07] <jvai> is it in edgy
[02:07] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[02:07] <goofey> dontbanme: right....  and doesn't cups run it's own webserver on that port?
[02:07] <jrib> Fastly: you need to enable universe
[02:07] <jvai> ouuch
[02:07] <dontbanme> Fastly: have all of your repositories enabled (ALL)
[02:07] <jrib> ubotu: tell Fastly about universe
[02:08] <jrib> Fastly: /or/ are you not on i386?
[02:08] <Fastly> i'm on amd64
[02:08] <myflugel> jrib: it says none
[02:08] <Madruga> hi everybody
[02:08] <alex_> alex@alex-desktop:~$ cp /home/alex/Desktop/firefox /opt/
[02:08] <jvai> iceweasel is the debian thing
[02:08] <alex_> cp: omitting directory `/home/alex/Desktop/firefox'
[02:08] <jrib> myflugel: yes, that means sun-java5-plugin is not installed, type: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[02:08] <alex_> is that the proper way?
[02:08] <myflugel> jrib: so i think it didnt work
[02:08] <Madruga> anyone can help me?
[02:09] <dontbanme> Fastly: aha... wine may not exist for x643
[02:09] <jrib> Fastly: yeah, the wine package only exists for i386
[02:09] <Fastly> :-(
[02:09] <Fastly> that probably explains why cedega doesn't run too..
[02:09] <chuckyp> Couldn't he compile it for 64 bit?
[02:09] <jrib> Fastly: you may want to ask #winehq if it is possible to get wine to work on amd64 (if no one here knows)
[02:10] <myflugel> jrib: it says Reading package lists... Done
[02:10] <myflugel> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:10] <myflugel> Package sun-java5-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:10] <myflugel> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:10] <myflugel> is only available from another source
[02:10] <myflugel> E: Package sun-java5-plugin has no installation candidate
[02:10] <jrib> myflugel: use a pastebin!
[02:10] <Fastly> thanks jrib
[02:10] <Madruga> the grub here isn't working
[02:10] <Dr_willis> !info sun-java5-plugin
[02:10] <ubotu> sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB
[02:10] <dontbanme> chuckyp: no, the libs are 32-bit only
[02:10] <jrib> myflugel: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:10] <Madruga> i install ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[02:10] <jrib> !pastebin | myflugel
[02:10] <ubotu> myflugel: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:10] <jvai> ty linus Torvalds, Ian Murdock, & lastly ty Mark Shuttleworth
[02:10] <Zarephath> Anyone enlighten me if WPA 256 bit= WPA or WPA2 personal in a router? Xandros on an old machine says WPA 256bit...I am able to connect with an open network..but having problems when enabling
[02:10] <Madruga> [HeathenDan] : i reboot my pc
[02:11] <myflugel> ok thnx
[02:11] <Madruga> and when is the time to grub boot, thw Windows XP boot
[02:11] <chuckyp> Fastly, you could run it with a chroot.
[02:11] <wildchild> dontbanme: that's wierd: I do as u said; copyed  libflashplayer.so  to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins, but still aperas the same note to remove the xpti.dat
[02:11] <Madruga> what can be happening?
[02:11] <Zarephath> However this is a Ubuntu machine..so I figured someone might know here over xandros
[02:11] <HeathenDan> erm, you talking to me?
[02:11] <Fastly> chuckyp: yeah i'm reading into chroot now
[02:12] <Fastly> pity this is the option though... some guy in winehq claims to have wine working fine on gentoo64...
[02:12] <myflugel> jrib: it says permissions denied
[02:12] <HeathenDan> odd, i could swear i'm not chatting here till now
[02:12] <lonran> hi
[02:12] <HeathenDan> !grub
[02:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:12] <chuckyp> Madruga, Windows overwrote the mbr and grun isn't installed there anymore.
[02:12] <jrib> myflugel: type this:  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, and then copy and paste the contents to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org .  Then give us the url of your post
[02:12] <Vich> !witchetygrubs
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about witchetygrubs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <chuckyp> Madruga, to fix it follow the instructions from ubotu about fixing after installing windows
[02:13] <lonran> where can i add a service to the startup? i want xscreensaver to be running when i log in
[02:13] <Madruga> chuckyp
[02:13] <myflugel> ok
[02:13] <Madruga> do you speak portuguese?
[02:13] <Madruga> because a ipost a topic in ubuntu-br
[02:13] <chuckyp> Madruga, no but !pt  or whatever the switch is might
[02:13] <chuckyp> !pt
[02:13] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:13] <jvai> how can i get the ols school boot style out of dapper?, i'm not gonna like this new graghical thing
[02:13] <HeathenDan> for a trouble-free fix, you can use the super grub disk in the ubuntu help page
[02:13] <lupine_85> jvai: edit your menu.lsty
[02:13] <lupine_85> erm, menu.lst
[02:13] <chuckyp> Madruga, /j #ubuntu-br   for portuguese
[02:13] <Madruga> [chuckyp] : ok, let's try in english ahsuahsuahu
[02:14] <chuckyp> !grub > Madruga
[02:14] <lupine_85> just remove the "quiet splash" options at the end of the kernel boot lines
[02:14] <Vich> stop with the grubs already
[02:14] <benkong2> Can someone look here and help me with ssh-keychain? http://pastebin.ca/220053
[02:14] <Vich> before I let birds loose in here
[02:14] <chuckyp> Madruga, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows   will fix your problems if you follow the directions there.
[02:14] <jvai> lupine: it will boot as fast w/o the graphics right?
[02:14] <Vich> they'll eat your grub
[02:14] <goofey> madc: you were right - my cups mime.types file was missing - thanks!
[02:14] <GreatBriton> how can i get networkmanager to detect my ra0 wifi connection?
[02:14] <Vich> then you'll have no master boot record
[02:14] <Madruga> [chuckyp] : the problem ins't this
[02:14] <myflugel> jrib: it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28176/
[02:14] <madc> goofey, no probs
[02:15] <anon32> woo hoo... I almost resorted to exploiting my cloak
[02:15] <sc0tt> ola Madruga :>
[02:15] <chuckyp> Madruga, if you reinstall grub it will fix your problems.  And they show you how on that page.
[02:15] <Madruga> [chuckyp] : i has only thw win xp installed on my machine
[02:15] <Madruga> then
[02:15] <Madruga> i get the ubuntu cd
[02:15] <lonran> how can i run a service in the startup? i want xscreensaver to be running when i log in
[02:15] <Madruga> [Solarion] : i install ubuntu
[02:15] <myflugel> ubotu: it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28176/
[02:15] <anon32> lonran: prefs > sessions > startup
[02:15] <chuckyp> Madruga, yes.  You need to install grub the MBR of /hda1
[02:15] <Madruga> so chuckyp
[02:16] <anon32> if you want it running on boot, go to /etc/init.d
[02:16] <chuckyp> Madruga, if you follow those instructions it will work.
[02:16] <[CoF] shadow> hey everyone
[02:16] <Madruga> i tryed this
[02:16] <Madruga> doesn't work
[02:16] <jvai> ok peepz starbucks is getting old, 7 my hoary install, has GOTTEN old, & the nyte is getting old, & i wanna reinstall tonyte, i did backup from hoary last nyte, so alls clear
[02:16] <Madruga> i tried a lot of things
[02:16] <jrib> myflugel: ok there are gui ways to do this, but text is easier to communicate:  run this command: 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and then add the word " multiverse" to the end of line 15.  After that, save and close gedit.  Then run 'sudo apt-get update'.  Then try to install java again
[02:16] <Madruga> you don't make sense oO'
[02:16] <jvai> see uall soon.
[02:17] <[CoF] shadow> anyone installed xserver on a 1440x900 monitor?
[02:17] <chuckyp> Madruga, your best bet is to join #ubuntu-br so they can speak your native language and make sense
[02:17] <anon32> god, upgrading to edgy takes forever... and I even have the cd to defray bandwidth costs
[02:17] <Madruga> [chuckyp] : i will try there
[02:17] <chuckyp> anon32, are you using update-manager -c -d   ?
[02:17] <Solarion> is there an AIGLX in ubuntu?
[02:17] <Madruga> [chuckyp] : anything, i back here
[02:17] <anon32> chuckyp: yes.....
[02:17] <Madruga> [chuckyp] : thnaks a lot guy
[02:17] <chuckyp> anon32, good
[02:17] <anon32> what's that have to do with it?
[02:18] <GreatBriton> how can i get networkmanager to detect my ra0 wifi connection, anybody?
[02:18] <chuckyp> GreatBriton, it most likely cant.
[02:18] <chuckyp> GreatBriton, you would have to update network manager.
[02:18] <anon32> chuckyp: actually, I'm not
[02:18] <chuckyp> GreatBriton, or wait for edgy.
[02:18] <anon32> I'm just using apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:18] <myflugel> jrib: how to see its line 15
[02:18] <anon32> GreatBriton: and if you don't like to upgrade gentoo is the solution
[02:18] <chuckyp> anon32, You should be okay but i've heard of a few issues doing it that way.  But all will be okay.  Not major issues
[02:18] <jrib> myflugel: look at the pastebin
[02:19] <dsnyders> Help!  Keyboard locks up sometimes when screensaver blanks screen.  How do I recover control?
[02:19] <myflugel> jrib: ok
[02:19] <anon32> chuckyp: update-manager -c -d tells me it can't upgrade all packages..
[02:19] <chuckyp> dsnyders, can you ctrl+alt+f1   ?
[02:19] <anon32> something about dependencies
[02:19] <[CoF] shadow> can anyone help me get xserver up and running?
[02:19] <chuckyp> anon32, yeah you need the ubuntu-desktop meta package installed or kubuntu whatever you use.
[02:19] <anon32> chuckyp: which I have?
[02:20] <dsnyders> chuckyp, Tried that.  No response from keyboard.  capslock and numlock lights are frozen as well.
[02:20] <chuckyp> anon32, well update-manager should work then.  hrm.. did you dist-upgrade prior to changing sources.list?
[02:20] <anon32> no?
[02:20] <dsnyders> chuckyp, I am able to ssh in from another machine, however.
[02:21] <anon32> ah wait, it says to download the update script, lol
[02:21] <chuckyp> dsnyders, hrm.. you may not be able to recover control then.  Unless you could log in remotely and sshd was not hugn.   I would double check your video drivers.  I had similiar issues when gnome-screensaver would try to call a opengl saver with out direct rendering support installed.
[02:21] <anon32> but I'll use apt anyway, upgrading will take several weeks for me
[02:21] <chuckyp> anon32, yeah..  well update-manager will use the cd also
[02:21] <anon32> chuckyp: several weeks WITH the cd
[02:22] <myflugel> jrib: it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28177/
[02:22] <jrib> myflugel: ok pastebin your new /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:23] <anon32> god, I need some kind of broadband...
[02:23] <dsnyders> chuckyp, I'll check that out.  However, the screensavers seem to work fine when tested manually.
[02:23] <chuckyp> dsnyders, yeah possibly check the opengl ones like lattice thats the one that used to crash my system without the proper video drivers.
[02:23] <dulce> .
[02:24] <jimmypw> can anyone tell me the apt package for the apache2 php4 module? I have tried libapache2-mod-php4 but it doesnt work, any suggestions?
[02:24] <Captain_Redbeard> Hey guys I need a hand... it's regarding my sound system... it just wont work, everything seems right the card looks properly installed... but I hear no sound, and no it is not muted as far as I know
[02:24] <jrib> jimmypw: that is the right package, what do you mean by "doesn't work"?
[02:24] <myflugel> jrib: it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28178/
[02:24] <strabes> Captain_Redbeard, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Comprehensive_Sound_Problems_Solutions_Guide
[02:24] <jimmypw> apt-get says it doesn't exist "package not found"
[02:24] <jrib> myflugel: type 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:25] <dcstimm> hey guys, where can I find the ubuntu knot3 powerpc livecds?
[02:25] <jimmypw> tried that jrib
[02:25] <strabes> dcstimm, wait till it comes out in 2 days lol
[02:25] <jrib> jimmypw: tryied what?  I didn't suggest anything :)
[02:25] <dcstimm> strabes, where can I find the ubuntu knot3 powerpc livecds?
[02:25] <jimmypw> oh sry, i tried apt-get update
[02:25] <jrib> jimmypw: but does the package actually install?
[02:26] <dcstimm> strabes, I need to iso of knot3, its removed from cdimage
[02:26] <dsnyders> chuckyp, is "blank screen" one of the problematic ones?
[02:26] <myflugel> jrib: and then i tried to install again it it says the same
[02:26] <jrib> !info sun-java5-plugin
[02:27] <ubotu> sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB
[02:27] <_Dan_> hi guys, anyone happen to have an ubuntu version, no matter which, installed on an asus p5b motherboard?
[02:27] <dcstimm> hey guys, where can I find the ubuntu knot3 powerpc livecds?
[02:27] <Captain_Redbeard> erf... it seems to work... but the plugs on the front of the chassis does not... how do I sort that then?
[02:27] <xipietotec> how would I create a launcher for the trash applet?
[02:27] <jrib> jimmypw: I mean, does apt-get complaina bout the package not existing, or does it install but not do what you want?
[02:27] <myflugel> jrib: what do you mean?
[02:28] <jimmypw> jrib: 1 second ill paste the response
[02:28] <jrib> myflugel: it should work :/
[02:29] <jrib> myflugel: did you save the file you showed me and the update?
[02:29] <jimmypw> jrib: E: Couldn't find package libapache-mod-php4
[02:29] <jrib> jimmypw: you forgot the 2 after apache right?  But have you enabled universe?
[02:29] <myflugel> jrib: yes
[02:29] <anon32> how do I disable daemons from starting?
[02:30] <Leonox> hi i have a big problem... my computer doesn't boot
[02:30] <Leonox> grub loading stage1.5 error 17 ubuntu
[02:30] <jrib> anon32: system > administration > services
[02:30] <anon32> jrib: not just the ones in there
[02:30] <anon32> those are only some
[02:30] <jrib> anon32: man update-rc.d
[02:30] <anon32> ok
[02:30] <Migu`> Hello , how i can play mp3 in my ubuntu 6.06 ? ;)
[02:30] <myflugel> jrib: this is what i see when i update and install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28179/
[02:30] <Leonox> help with grub
[02:31] <jimmypw> jrib: yes actualy, now i get a different error E: Package libapache2-mod-php4 has no installation candidate
[02:31] <Migu`> help me! how to play mp3 files? :(
[02:31] <jrib> !mp3 | Migu`
[02:31] <ubotu> Migu`: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:31] <Midtex> hey everyone, anyone here good with Grub?
[02:31] <Zarephath> !mp3 >Migu
[02:31] <jimmypw> Package libapache2-mod-php4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:31] <jimmypw> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:31] <jimmypw> is only available from another source
[02:31] <NickGarvey> Midtex: what can I do for you :)
[02:31] <Zarephath> !mp3
[02:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:31] <Zarephath> Migu: Read that..
[02:31] <jrib> jimmypw: and universe is enabled?
[02:32] <Leonox> aaaa
[02:32] <jimmypw> i dont know what that is
[02:32] <jrib> ubotu: tell jimmypw about universe
[02:32] <jimmypw> !universe
[02:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:32] <jrib> jimmypw: ubotu should have sent you some info.  After you enable universe, it should work
[02:32] <Leonox> how can i boot my computer...?
[02:32] <Leonox> grub loading stage1.5 error 17 ubuntu
[02:32] <Midtex> nickgarvey, hehe, okay. I installed Windows XP ontop of ubuntu, I lost grub. I restored it with the Live CD. Windows XP is still there. I can see the drive in linux. So HOW do I add it to my Grub boot list?
[02:32] <Leonox> :(
[02:32] <NickGarvey> Midtex: here, look at the links ubotu will send you
[02:32] <NickGarvey> !grub > Midtex
[02:32] <strabes_> jr
[02:33] <jimmypw> thanks jrib: ill have a look
[02:33] <jrib> myflugel: ok one second, let me check something
[02:33] <poningru> !grub
[02:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:33] <myflugel> jrib: ok
[02:33] <DaveyJ> in all honesty... hows the media support in ubuntu? my main box is a kubuntu box, but i dont do much media on it... i'm building my media pc for movies/dvds/tv/music -- would xubuntu work well? minimal is good
[02:33] <Jermey> Is Ubuntu running on MacIntels yet?
[02:34] <jrib> DaveyJ: mplayer can handle all the media I throw at it.  Not sure what you mean by tv, but there is mythtv
[02:34] <strabes_> DaveyJ, it can support pretty much everything
[02:34] <Wiseguy> hey guys, ubuntu doesnt seem to be using the fan on my laptop for the heat... is there anyway to manually turn the fan on?>
[02:34] <strabes_> mp3
[02:34] <DaveyJ> i have an ati all-in-wonder radeon
[02:34] <DaveyJ> for my tv input
[02:34] <NickGarvey> DaveyJ: its hit or miss with ati
[02:34] <NickGarvey> DaveyJ: (miss in my case...)
[02:35] <cosmodad> Wiseguy: I think there's a binary called  "fan" in some package
[02:35] <DaveyJ> should i just stick with windows on the media?
[02:35] <NickGarvey> DaveyJ: I'd try the live cd and install drivers and everything on the live cd to try stuff out
[02:35] <strabes_> !mp3 >daveyj
[02:35] <DaveyJ> thats a good suggestion :)
[02:35] <strabes_> !mp3 >strabes
[02:35] <chuckyp> Jermey, I belive so
[02:36] <cosmodad> Wiseguy: it's in "toshutils", you might wanna check whether it works with your possibly non-Toshiba notebook as well
[02:36] <Jim__> admin
[02:36] <NickGarvey> Midtex: so grub IS on your computer?
[02:36] <DaveyJ> i was thinking of xubuntu for the media becuase i like how its all minimal
[02:36] <strabes_> !mp3 > daveyj
[02:36] <DaveyJ> they should make a media center OS
[02:36] <jimmypw> jrib: do you know off the top of your head exactly which source needs universe enable?
[02:36] <DaveyJ> strabes_: i already got it, thanks
[02:36] <strabes_> DaveyJ, ok cool have fun.
[02:36] <Midtex> nickgarvey Yes! Grub is on my computer
[02:36] <NickGarvey> Midtex: actually it says how to get windows back
[02:37] <cosmodad> DaveyJ: if you take care in what components you buy you can get a decent media PC
[02:37] <NickGarvey> Midtex: its in the section "Configuring the GRUB Menu"
[02:37] <jrib> jimmypw: you need dapper universe, though I would enable dapper-security universe and dapper-updates universe as well
[02:37] <Midtex> okay, ill check it out
[02:37] <chuckyp> Jermey, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1060679&postcount=22
[02:37] <DaveyJ> i'm not looking for decent to be honest ;) i'm using scrap parts
[02:37] <Jermey> Ubuntu should really come with MythTV on the CD and install it automatically when you install Ubuntu.
[02:37] <NickGarvey> Midtex: oh that is odd though, it doesn't work already?
[02:37] <jrib> jimmypw: (assuming you are using dapper)
[02:37] <cosmodad> DaveyJ: the scrapier, the better for Linux ;)
[02:37] <DaveyJ> :)
[02:37] <chuckyp> Jermey, whoops heres the howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1060679&postcount=22
[02:37] <Wiseguy> didnt seem to work cosmodad
[02:38] <Clinton__> Jermey: less than 1% of the users can even record video, and 10% of those would even do it.  Why should MythTV be automatically isntalled?
[02:38] <chuckyp> Jermey, you can install it from the repos
[02:38] <Midtex> Nickgarvey, i just followed some tort i found online. so I dunnoi t could have been weird.
[02:38] <sith-lord> sup
[02:38] <Scrippie> hey
[02:38] <cosmodad> Wiseguy: then I don't know...
[02:38] <chuckyp> !mac
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <NickGarvey> Midtex: ah.. what choices do you get when you boot up your computer?
[02:38] <jrib> myflugel: I'm confused, try removing 'nl.' from all of your repositories in your sources.list, save, and the apt-get update, then try java again
[02:38] <cosmodad> Wiseguy: check the laptop team wiki page on ubuntu.com on your model, maybe
[02:38] <Midtex> nickgarvey, nothing. It goes to ubuntu without asking
[02:38] <Jermey> Clinton__: Because XP MCE does it.
[02:39] <NickGarvey> Midtex: and you are sure it is grub?
[02:39] <cosmodad> DaveyJ: I mayself bought a really old Matrox G400 2 years or so ago just because it has a good name when it comes to TV output
[02:39] <Migu`> Hey
[02:39] <Migu`> I am getting this errors ---->  E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:39] <NickGarvey> Midtex: do you have the tutorial you followed?
[02:39] <jrib> myflugel: wait, I may no longer be condused.  What architecture are you using?
[02:39] <Migu`> while tryint to install the mp3 , restrcited format
[02:39] <chuckyp> ubotu, !mac Intel mac installation howto is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1060679&postcount=22
[02:39] <arctica> !Windows 3.1_extensions
[02:39] <Clinton__> Jermey: if the Ubuntu team did stuff because XP MCE does, then they should leave gaping security holes everywhere too.
[02:39] <cosmodad> DaveyJ: it works great unter Linux (well I use it under Debian, but that shouldn't differ a lot)
[02:39] <jrib> myflugel: ignore my previous suggestion to remove nl. by the way
[02:39] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmmm the mic doesn't seem to work :p
[02:39] <Midtex> nickgarvey, umm, I could Probly find it if you give me some time. 4mins tops.
[02:39] <Captain_Redbeard> What could be wrong?
[02:39] <arctica> !Windows 3.1
[02:39] <DaveyJ> i refuse to buy any new parts for this
[02:39] <Jermey> LOL that's not what I meant.
[02:39] <sith-lord> interest
[02:40] <NickGarvey> Midtex: alright, thank you
[02:40] <DaveyJ> i just took apart my main machine and made a fresh ubuntu box in a nice neat shuttle case
[02:40] <arctica> !Win3.1
[02:40] <DaveyJ> disconnected all my storage drives from the media computer that already exists
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Win3.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <DaveyJ> and i'm throwing them in a NAS/Backup box
[02:40] <cosmodad> DaveyJ: well in that case you'll have to find out how well support is for your stuff
[02:40] <Midtex> okay, I foud it.
[02:41] <NickGarvey> Midtex: link me please
[02:41] <cosmodad> DaveyJ: some hardware is really grateful to have while other parts are a plain pain in the ass
[02:41] <Midtex> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113 okay, its the second post.
[02:41] <Migu`> Help me!
[02:41] <Migu`> :(
[02:41] <Jermey> Would it be possible to use a rackmount computer as a MythTV backend? It would need to have PCI tv tuners in it.
[02:41] <Jermey> Or could I use USB tv tuners?
[02:42] <arctica> !help
[02:42] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:42] <Migu`> cosmodad: Man ,  i can't install the mp3 .... i get this error... E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:42] <NickGarvey> Midtex: odd, menu.lst should load
[02:42] <music_man_nz> when is edgy coming out please?
[02:42] <Admiral_Chicago> 27th
[02:42] <jrib> myflugel: 26
[02:42] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc
[02:42] <DaveyJ> oh yeah and what do you guys suggest for my nas/backup as far as software/partitioning goes?
[02:42] <NickGarvey> Midtex: could you pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst please?
[02:42] <Admiral_Chicago> !schedule
[02:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:42] <DaveyJ> i'm going with xubuntu on that too
[02:42] <NickGarvey> !pastebin > Midtex
[02:42] <cosmodad> Migu`: well then, is it the case?
[02:42] <Jermey> 27th Oct isn't it?
[02:42] <DaveyJ> i was thinking about running that nas/backup image through vmware
[02:42] <myflugel> jrib: done that but when update it still connects to nl sites
[02:42] <Midtex> nickgarvey, How do I do that?...
[02:43] <jrib> myflugel: ok, what architecture do you use?
[02:43] <cosmodad> Migu`: it probably is
[02:43] <NickGarvey> Midtex: hehe, read the link ubotu send you
[02:43] <myflugel> jrib: amd64
[02:43] <Migu`> cosmodad: what can I do?
[02:43] <Admiral_Chicago> 26th
[02:43] <NickGarvey> Midtex: go to that link, and open the file I said in a text editor and copy it
[02:43] <Midtex> nickgarvey, Bah. My bad. hold up. (hey thanks for being so helpful)
[02:43] <jrib> myflugel: ok that's why, there is no plugin package for amd64.  You'll have to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-6524a0c56845e40dccd32676dad42830325e5707
[02:43] <Jermey> Any thoughts on my rack mount MythTV backend guys?
[02:43] <cosmodad> Migu`: are you using synaptics?
[02:43] <jimmypw> jrib: next error...  sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4
[02:43] <jimmypw> W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:43] <jimmypw> E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[02:43] <jimmypw> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[02:43] <myflugel> jrib: ok thnx for your help
[02:43] <NickGarvey> Midtex: no problem, I used to be in here a lot more than  Ihave been recently..
[02:44] <chuckyp> Jermey, thoughts as far as?
[02:44] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: you need "sudo", or to close synaptic
[02:44] <Migu`> cosmodad: yes
[02:44] <chuckyp> Jermey, I would do a server install and then install mythtv
[02:44] <cosmodad> Migu`: check you don't have two applications accessing APT open at the same time, like an aptitude and a synaptics window
[02:44] <myflugel> jrib: i will check the site later i have to go now i need some sleep:) maybe i speak ya tomorrow
[02:44] <Jermey> Can rackmount equipment accept PCI cards?
[02:44] <jrib> myflugel: k, cya and good luck
[02:44] <jimmypw> NickGarvey: how do you mean?
[02:44] <Migu`> lol
[02:44] <Jermey> chuckyp:^^^
[02:44] <Migu`> thxc
[02:44] <Migu`> :)
[02:44] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: run apt-get with sudo infront
[02:45] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: oh, you did hehe
[02:45] <derinderinderin> re
[02:45] <jimmypw> :P
[02:45] <Midtex> nickgarvey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28180/plain/
[02:45] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: close synaptic then, or some other problem that can be used to install packages
[02:45] <cosmodad> Migu`: you did huh? :)
[02:45] <chuckyp> Jermey, yes
[02:45] <jimmypw> !synaptic
[02:45] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[02:46] <NickGarvey> Midtex: oh boy, what a mess
[02:46] <Migu`> cosmodad: yes... but now i got anather error
[02:46] <Migu`> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[02:46] <Captain_Redbeard> Ok, hmm my mic doesn't work now :P I have no idea what could be wrong it seems to be anabled properly and so forth... what is it that I've could do wrong here?
[02:46] <NickGarvey> Midtex: let me clean it up
[02:46] <jimmypw> NickGarvey: Im using the server release no gui's here
[02:46] <Midtex> nickgarvey, ^^ oh man.
[02:46] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: ah, then make sure apt-get isn't doing anything else
[02:46] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: "ps ax | grep apt-get"
[02:46] <Luke> aux ^^
[02:46] <Luke> not ax
[02:46] <cosmodad> Migu`: I think this is a common error, though I don't know the solution
[02:47] <Migu`> lol
[02:47] <Migu`> will it load?
[02:47] <marcrosoft> !aptitude
[02:47] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[02:47] <Migu`> even the error appering?
[02:47] <Luke> oh i guess ax works too
[02:47] <chuckyp> Migu`, you dont' have the key for that repo however.  You don't need it to install packages from it.
[02:47] <cosmodad> Migu`: yeah. look in the forums
[02:47] <NickGarvey> Midtex: give me a minute or two..
[02:47] <NickGarvey> Midtex: oh, and could you also pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:47] <chuckyp> Migu`, it just won't be able to verify it as a valid repo
[02:48] <hyperactivecrond> 2 days..
[02:48] <Midtex> sure!
[02:48] <Midtex> ive done that command. alot. :-)
[02:49] <theplatypus> Has anyone got Farcry running?
[02:49] <Midtex> nickgarvey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28181/
[02:49] <jimmypw> NickGarvey: Nope, no instances of apt-get already running however i am using wget for a download if that makes a difference
[02:50] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: shouldn't.. could you pastebin "ps ax" please?
[02:50] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: oh that might be hard with server edition eh..
[02:50] <Midtex> nickgarvey, thank you agian for helping me out so much'
[02:50] <Migu`> Now anather problem , how i can change my screen resolution ? i got an LCD monitor, and i don't like what i saw in the System -> Admin panel ... its showing at 73 Mghz... and a max of 800x600 ...
[02:51] <chuckyp> Migu`, edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:51] <NickGarvey> Midtex: which harddrive is windows on? the same one as linux?
[02:51] <chuckyp> Migu`, or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:51] <plan> oh speaking of resolution
[02:51] <Midtex> nickgarvey, yup. same one
[02:51] <NickGarvey> Midtex: ok, I got it then
[02:51] <jimmypw> NickGarvey: Its ok im SSH'd in on an xp machine
[02:51] <jimmypw> you want me to paste the whole list?
[02:51] <plan> why does it only allow me to have a max refresh of 75hz?
[02:51] <Midtex> nickgarvey, yayyy
[02:51] <Migu`> chickyp  : do i nead to install  any video driver ?
[02:52] <NickGarvey> Midtex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28182/plain/
[02:52] <Migu`> i got nvidia, 128 MB ,...but very old ...
[02:52] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: oh ok, please do then
[02:52] <Migu`> is only 4X or 8X?
[02:52] <NickGarvey> Midtex: paste that over the top of your old one
[02:52] <plan> 128mb very old haha
[02:52] <chuckyp> Migu`, only if you want gl support.  You could install nvidia-glx
[02:52] <NickGarvey> Midtex: (you will need to be super user)
[02:52] <Migu`> plan :  man , is 2 years old...
[02:52] <chuckyp> !nvidia > Migu`
[02:52] <plan> I have a 64mb
[02:52] <Midtex> nickgarvey, thanks. let me try that
[02:52] <NickGarvey> Midtex: good luck..
[02:52] <plan> why does it only allow me to have a max refresh of 75hz?
[02:53] <NickGarvey> Midtex: wait
[02:53] <VanessaE> eh, my nv 6600 only has 128MB, I'd hardly call it old :)
[02:53] <NickGarvey> Midtex: you have another computer right?
[02:53] <NickGarvey> Midtex: on the VERY unlikely chance something doesn't work you will be able to get back to me right?
[02:53] <Migu`> plan : man , i got a LCD monitor, and it could fxxx up if it will exced 50 Mghz...
[02:53] <noway-> I installed windows after I install ubuntu, and grub has been remove.  Does anyone have a good guide to adding grub back to the mbr?  I have the live cd
[02:53] <Midtex> nickgarvey, okay. Can I change the Title to Windows XP professional?
[02:53] <plan> somebody know??
[02:53] <Warbo> !grub > noway-
[02:54] <NickGarvey> Midtex: of course
[02:54] <plan> why does it only allow me to have a max refresh of 75hz????
[02:54] <noway-> Warbo: ?
[02:54] <VanessaE> maybe that's all your monitor is capable of at the resolution  you've set?
[02:54] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: pastebin please :)
[02:54] <plan> nope
[02:54] <jimmypw> sorry nick i get kicked for flooding
[02:54] <plan> capable of 144hz
[02:54] <noway-> Warbo: nm, I see now
[02:54] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: noticed hehe
[02:54] <noway-> Warbo: thanks
[02:55] <Migu`> man , is telling me....  No x server found on this server... :(
[02:55] <[CoF] shadow> hey all, I'm getting a "No screens found" error when loading xserver
[02:55] <Warbo> ALSA seems to have screwed up so I am getting no sound. I have tried restarting alsa-utils but it didn't help, is there anything I can do short of rebooting the entire system? (the error messages I get are like this: "ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:222:(make_local_socket) connect failed: /tmp/alsa-dmix-10630-1161404278-67162: No such file or directory")
[02:55] <jimmypw>  3646 ?        Ss     0:00 /sbin/syslogd -u syslog
[02:55] <jimmypw>  3663 ?        Ss     0:00 /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg
[02:55] <jimmypw>  3665 ?        Ss     0:00 /sbin/klogd -P /var/run/klogd/kmsg
[02:55] <jimmypw>  3690 ?        Ssl    0:00 /usr/sbin/named -u bind
[02:55] <jimmypw>  3713 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[02:55] <jimmypw>  3725 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/vsftpd
[02:55] <jimmypw>  3747 ?        Ss     0:00 /sbin/mdadm -F -i /var/run/mdadm.pid -m root -f -s
[02:55] <jimmypw>  3782 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/atd
[02:55] <VanessaE> ACK!
[02:55] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: pastebin!!!
[02:55] <jimmypw>  3792 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/cron
[02:55] <VanessaE> use pastebin please
[02:55] <jimmypw>  3815 tty1     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty1
[02:55] <jimmypw>  3816 tty2     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
[02:55] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: pastebin!!!!
[02:55] <jimmypw>  3817 tty3     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3
[02:55] <Midtex> Uh oh
[02:55] <jimmypw>  3818 tty4     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty4
[02:55] <jimmypw>  3821 tty5     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty5
[02:55] <jimmypw>  3822 tty6     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6
[02:55] <jimmypw>  4264 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start -DSSL
[02:55] <jimmypw>  4265 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start -DSSL
[02:55] <jimmypw>  4266 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start -DSSL
[02:55] <Music_Shuffle> ...lol...
[02:55] <jimmypw>  4268 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start -DSSL
[02:55] <NickGarvey> very sorry everyone
[02:55] <jimmypw>  4469 ?        Ss     0:00 sshd: james [priv] 
[02:55] <theplatypus> someone is going to get booted
[02:55] <jimmypw>  4471 ?        S      0:00 sshd: james@pts/0
[02:55] <NickGarvey> sort of my folt
[02:55] <jimmypw>  4472 pts/0    Ss     0:00 -bash
[02:55] <NickGarvey> fault*
[02:55] <jimmypw>  4489 pts/0    S+     0:01 wget http://download1.<my very long download>.tar.gz
[02:55] <jimmypw>  4492 ?        Ss     0:00 sshd: james [priv] 
[02:55] <NickGarvey> I did say pastebin though hehe
[02:55] <jimmypw>  4494 ?        R      0:00 sshd: james@pts/1
[02:55] <plan> lol
[02:55] <jimmypw>  4495 pts/1    Ss     0:00 -bash
[02:56] <jimmypw>  4610 pts/1    R+     0:00 ps ax
[02:56] <jimmypw> whats a pastebin?
[02:56] <jaebird> :)
[02:56] <Music_Shuffle> www.pastebin.com
[02:56] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: read the topic
[02:56] <Warbo> guess I'll have to repeat my question in a second.....
[02:56] <jimmypw> im sorry i thought thats what he meant
[02:56] <Midtex> nickgarvey, umm WARNING **: Hit unhandled case 1 (File not found) in gedit_unrecoverable_saving_error_message_area_new.
[02:56] <Captain_Redbeard> Bah, I can't figure this out... no matter how I mess with the mixer settings I can't get it to pick up my voice.. is there something I'm missing?
[02:56] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[02:56] <NickGarvey> very sorry
[02:56] <plan> why does it only allow me to have a max refresh of 75hz????
[02:56] <plan> why does it only allow me to have a max refresh of 75hz????
[02:56] <NickGarvey> Midtex: didn't let you save it?
[02:56] <Midtex> nickgarvey, nopers.
[02:56] <Migu`> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg     i runned it and i get an error... it's telling me that i don't got a video adapter, and i am working on serial ?!  or no X server for my video adapter
[02:57] <Warbo> OK, sorry for repeating but due to the flood: ALSA seems to have screwed up so I am getting no sound. I have tried restarting alsa-utils but it didn't help, is there anything I can do short of rebooting the entire system? (the error messages I get are like this: "ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:222:(make_local_socket) connect failed: /tmp/alsa-dmix-10630-1161404278-67162: No such file or directory")
[02:57] <NickGarvey> Midtex: ok, then do this "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[02:57] <NickGarvey> Warbo: yes go to /etc/init.d
[02:57] <plan> NOBODY knows my question ???????????
[02:57] <NickGarvey> Warbo: and do "./alsa(hittab) stop and then ./alsa(hittab) start
[02:57] <rmd_> how can i make the panel allow windows to obscure it?  i dont want to resort to hiding the bar, but would like to be able to move windows over it.
[02:57] <NickGarvey> plan: I don't know, I'm sorry
[02:57] <NickGarvey> rmd_: always on top option?
[02:57] <Captain_Redbeard> nobody out there who can help me?
[02:57] <rmd_> NickGarvey: i can't find one
[02:58] <NickGarvey> rmd_: hmm.. I use kde so not much I can do
[02:58] <Midtex> nickgarvey, great!
[02:58] <Warbo> NickGarvey: Nope, didn't help :( (by the way, I did mention that I restarted alsa-utils :) )
[02:58] <NickGarvey> Midtex: ok, good luck
[02:58] <Midtex> nickgarvey, should I restart now?
[02:58] <Migu`> What yahoo messenger should I downloand http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ?  for redhat or for debian ?!
[02:58] <NickGarvey> Warbo: ah, I wasn't sure if that was the same thing as the entire alsa system
[02:58] <Midtex> nickgarvey, ... dun dun dunnn and what if... I don't return?
[02:59] <rookie> for redhat
[02:59] <NickGarvey> Midtex: have another computer?
[02:59] <Warbo> Hmm, apparently the only thing I can hear through my speakers is interference from somebody's mobile phone
[02:59] <Midtex> i have a Live ubuntu CD.
[02:59] <Midtex> that would work.
[02:59] <rookie> if you use Ubuntu for Debian
[02:59] <Warbo> I think I'll just reboot. Just that I am in the middle of some stuff
[02:59] <NickGarvey> Midtex: yeah, ok, so we have a backup if something fails (it won't)
[02:59] <NickGarvey> Midtex: good luck then :)
[02:59] <Midtex> :)
[03:00] <zmutte> Heya, I have just installed ubuntu server and have some issues with setting from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1, my old "tricks" doesn't seem to work and I was figuring if someone had a guide/readme available
[03:02] <jimmypw> NickGarvey: Its not working
[03:02] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: what is not? pastebin?
[03:02] <cliffd> I have what wants to be a fileserver, what version should I use? server ubuntu? or just regular?
[03:02] <jimmypw> nope the site's just waiting......
[03:02] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: hm, try again
[03:02] <jimmypw> it loads the initial page ofc
[03:02] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: what site did you use?
[03:02] <jimmypw> www.pastebin.com
[03:03] <NickGarvey> are you "james"?
[03:03] <kode4u> does somebody knows this errors?
[03:03] <kode4u> ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0xd0/00 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0xb/47/00
[03:03] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: pastebin is slow for me too, wait a bit I think
[03:03] <kode4u> Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0
[03:03] <jimmypw> why yes i am
[03:04] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: use this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:04] <jimmypw> Nick: ah that works http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28183/
[03:05] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: and you are getting the database locked error? could you paste that in pastebin too?
[03:06] <jimmypw> Nick: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28185/
[03:07] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: that is very odd.. have permissions changed?
[03:07] <noway_> my /boot is on /dev/sda1 ... but how do I tell what grub sees it as?
[03:07] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: do a "ls -l /etc/cache/* | grep apt" and tell me what you get
[03:07] <jimmypw> nope, ive been able to download anthing that i want up until now
[03:08] <Leonox> is there a way to create a grub cd from ubuntu live cd?
[03:08] <noway_> I am trying to repair grub on the mbr, but I don't know which hard drive grub sees
[03:09] <NickGarvey> noway_: it sees the one you tell it too see in menu.lst
[03:09] <jimmypw> Nick: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28187/
[03:09] <Leonox> i can't find /boot/grub directory in live cd
[03:10] <noway_> NickGarvey: well, I am trying reload grub, I know which hard drive it should see (/dev/sda1/) but not what this translate to in grub
[03:10] <jimmypw> not found
[03:10] <Alakazamz0r> fdisk -l
[03:10] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: hehe silly me
[03:10] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: "ls -l /var/cache/* | grep apt"
[03:10] <Leonox> NickGarvey: hi i have a problem with grub too, could you help me?
[03:11] <Chippy> can anyone help me mount a .mdf?
[03:11] <NickGarvey> Leonox: hehe I can try, what is not working?
[03:11] <noway_> Alakazamz0r: nothing :-(
[03:11] <Super> *** Help please *** I need the url of a package xserver-xorg-core but older version xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:11] <Leonox> NickGarvey: grub loading stage1.5 error 17 ubuntu
[03:11] <Alakazamz0r> dmesg |grep sd |more
[03:12] <diodorus> Has anyone experienced problems with the ubuntu installer for casper on the 6.06 TLS live cd?
[03:12] <jimmypw> Nick: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28188/
[03:12] <diodorus> problems specifically relating to filesystem errors when running the install process
[03:12] <Nicolae> question: SATA drives throw errors in kern.log.  Ratchets down to PIO0, continues until I dismount/remount it. Only h$
[03:12] <Nicolae> gah.
[03:12] <Nicolae> happens when I try to transfer more than 5 gigs or so. Getting annoying. Compiled 2.618-mm3, so at least it doesn't lock the system up, but makes the drive pretty much unusable until reboot.
[03:13] <noway_> Alakazamz0r: it doesn't really say in there either... do I need to mount it for it to come up on fdisk?
[03:13] <Chippy> can anyone help me mount a .mdf?
[03:13] <Alakazamz0r> noway_, dmesg is your system kernel messages
[03:14] <bianconeri> hello
[03:14] <NickGarvey> Leonox: I would google the error...
[03:14] <Alakazamz0r> if its not there... then it isnt recognizing it.
[03:14] <bianconeri> I have a problem with my update to edgy
[03:14] <Leonox> NickGarvey: ok
[03:14] <jimmypw> NickGarvey: *bump* http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28188/
[03:14] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: hm, actually just paste "ls -l /var/cache/*"
[03:14] <iamtheric> visualboy advance anyone?
[03:14] <Super> bianconeri: is that the X crash
[03:14] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: yeah, it didn't say what I wanted
[03:14] <bianconeri> no
[03:15] <noway_> Alakazamz0r: it says that it sees the attached scsi drive, but does not tell me what it translates to in grub
[03:15] <Cirvin_Fox> I have  2 soundcards on my system, and flash in firefox plays out of one, but i want it to play from the other. what must be done to redirect the sound to the 2nd card?
[03:15] <Super> what is the problem you are having with edgy?
[03:15] <bianconeri> well basically i updated, but in grub it doesnt show me the new kernel I have 2.6.15
[03:15] <iamtheric> !visualboyadvance
[03:15] <ubotu> visualboyadvance: a full featured Game Boy Advance emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7.2-4build1 (dapper), package size 793 kB, installed size 2684 kB
[03:15] <Super> yes i had that problem too
[03:15] <Super> do sudo update-grub
[03:15] <Alakazamz0r> noway_, are you using edgy?
[03:15] <jimmypw> NickGarvey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28190/
[03:16] <noway_> Alakazamz0r: no, drapper
[03:16] <Alakazamz0r> you should be able to just add the line in fstab and it'll re-do it for you
[03:16] <bianconeri> other problems such I cant change the background only a brown background of the desktop...the bug tool keeps loading and can't be killed, I removed it
[03:16] <Alakazamz0r> what do you mean what it translates to?
[03:16] <bianconeri> I did grub update
[03:16] <superjew9020> does anyone no the command to activate xtrlock??
[03:16] <noway_> Alakazamz0r: grub has its own identifiers for hard drives right?  like /dev/sda1 -> hd0,4 or something
[03:17] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: hm, I'm not sure what the problem is
[03:17] <Alakazamz0r> no
[03:17] <Super> do you see the new kernel now?
[03:17] <Alakazamz0r> ./dev/sda1 /mnt/mountpoint filesystemtype options
[03:17] <diodorus> It starts up the partitioner. Recognizes the drive. Then it asks to either Erase the drive, use as much continuous free space as possible, or manually edit partitions. I choose the second option. 'Use the largest continuous free space'
[03:17] <bianconeri> no I see the old kernel only, although I am pretty sure others are there
[03:17] <Skip> just a word on new Edgy Eft - very nice OS
[03:18] <noway_> Alakazamz0r: I am following the guide here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:18] <NickGarvey> Skip: :)
[03:18] <Super> if you go to /boot do you see the ne kernels there?
[03:18] <Super> i mean new kernels
[03:18] <fnf> Hi, does anyone have an idea of why after installing nfsclient my system automatically starts portmap process, even I told it not to in /etc/rc* ?.
[03:18] <bianconeri> yes there are many super
[03:18] <Cirvin_Fox> how do i intercept data being written to /dev/dsp and route it to /dev/dsp1?
[03:18] <Alakazamz0r> you need to be here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-778ecd20f83f92ebaa5aaec5f1b4615539c2f8d3
[03:18] <tgelter> hey guys, I'm having trouble getting X to start since upgrading to edgy...I get the following error when I try to start X: "X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0"
[03:19] <music_man_nz> edit is opening my files as read-only even though they are CHMODed to 777. Any ideas?
[03:19] <bianconeri> I can see 2.6.17
[03:19] <music_man_nz> gedit*
[03:19] <Skip> bye
[03:19] <cliffd> when 6.10 comes out will it update ubuntu server also?
[03:19] <Alakazamz0r> oh you mean i grub
[03:19] <Alakazamz0r> not fstab.
[03:19] <Alakazamz0r> For example, /dev/hda1 is "hd0,0" to GRUB. Similarly, /dev/hdb3 is "hd1,2".
[03:19] <jimmypw> Nick garvey: i should have paid more attention i get this massive error when i do "sudo apt-get update" http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28191/
[03:19] <Super> both the 386 and generic?
[03:19] <megauei> hi, where can I find the firefox 2 installation process?
[03:19] <bianconeri> yup
[03:19] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: THERE WE GO
[03:19] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: the filesystem is mounted read only
[03:19] <superjew9020> does anyone no the command to activate xtrlock??
[03:19] <noway_> Alakazamz0r: so /dev/sda1 -> "hd0,?"
[03:19] <music_man_nz> any ideas?
[03:20] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: which means something broke really bad at some poin
[03:20] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: and you will want to reboot
[03:20] <Cirvin_Fox> how do i intercept data being written to /dev/dsp and route it to /dev/dsp1?
[03:20] <bianconeri> is there an option that lists only one kernel? maybe that option is turned on
[03:20] <iamtheric> how do i use the gameshark feature under visualboy advance?
[03:20] <Super> don't know ... do you get any error when you do sudo update-grub?
[03:20] <Alakazamz0r> 0,0
[03:20] <diodorus> This starts the guided partitioning process. And then begins creating the ext3 filesystem. Once it reaches 15% completion, it fails to install further.
[03:20] <diodorus> Any ideas?
[03:20] <jimmypw> Sry for wasting your time mate, thanks a lot
[03:20] <diodorus> The error is "Failed to create filesystem" But it doesn't say anything more specific than that.
[03:20] <noway_> Alakazamz0r: ok, thanks... I will give it a shot
[03:20] <music_man_nz> change to ext3
[03:20] <NickGarvey> jimmypw: haha its fine, I should have asked
[03:20] <music_man_nz> diodorus
[03:20] <Super> i do not think so, doing an update-grub will add/remove lines from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:21] <bianconeri> no i dont....but when ubuntu boots (2.6.15, which is the only one listed) I get "loading kernel drivers" FAILED
[03:21] <music_man_nz> use Gparted
[03:21] <Alakazamz0r> ok noway_  :)
[03:21] <jimmypw> i feel like an utter muppet now. anyway bed time
[03:21] <eck0> hey
[03:21] <music_man_nz> Does anyone know why gEdit is opening my CHMODed 777 files as REad-Only!?!?
[03:21] <jimmypw> night all
[03:21] <Cirvin_Fox> how do i intercept data being written to /dev/dsp and route it to /dev/dsp1?
[03:21] <Super> probably the update "upgraded "
[03:21] <eck0> its chmod u+x
[03:21] <Nicolae> Another question: Can you force an SATA drive from PIO0 to UDMA?
[03:21] <Super> the modules of the kernel and they are not compatible anymore
[03:22] <megauei> hi, where can I find the firefox 2 installation process?
[03:22] <Alakazamz0r> megauei, http://www.mozilla.org/projects/bonecho/all-rc.html
[03:22] <Super> i removed my old kernel and now i am using the 2.6.17s
[03:22] <megauei> tnx
[03:22] <bimberi> music_man_nz: check the permissions of the directory that the files are in
[03:22] <bianconeri> For now I just need GRUB to list the newest kernel
[03:22] <eck0> does anyone else have trouble installing nvidia drivers
[03:22] <music_man_nz> bimberl: thanks
[03:22] <anto9us> diodorus, verify that drive parameters are correct or set to auto in the bios would be the first thing I'd check
[03:22] <Cirvin_Fox> how do i intercept data being written to /dev/dsp and route it to /dev/dsp1?
[03:23] <Nicolae> Can you use a symbolic link? ln -s /dev/dsp /dev/dsp1
[03:23] <Cirvin_Fox> will try
[03:23] <eck0> or does anyone know were i can get an installer for the nvidia card without using from thier site
[03:23] <bianconeri> Plus Nautilus is not loading:S
[03:23] <eck0> cuz the one on thier site is messed up
[03:23] <Super> then if you are sure, do # sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and copy the lines from the old kernel
[03:23] <diodorus> gparted gives the error" he kernel is unable to re-read the partitiontables on the following devices: /dev/sda "
[03:23] <Super> and update the numbers
[03:23] <music_man_nz> STill not going
[03:23] <Nicolae> Cirvin_Fox: you may have to use sudo to do it
[03:23] <music_man_nz> Directory is 777 and so are the files
[03:24] <diodorus> it then says "Because of this you iwll only have limited access to these devices. Unmount all mounted partitions on a device to get full access."
[03:24] <bianconeri> thats tricky business
[03:24] <anto9us> diodorus, have you checked the bios?
[03:24] <Super> but i really do not get it why the update-grub does not work
[03:24] <desi_> how to enable su
[03:24] <diodorus> anto9us, what for?
[03:24] <eck0> sudo
[03:24] <Super> wait a little if somebody knows more about this issue
[03:24] <eck0> sudo then command
[03:24] <eck0> and it will ask for ur admin pw
[03:24] <AdamKili> hey guys will Firefox automaticallay update or do i need to do it manually?
[03:24] <bianconeri> this ubuntu distibution is not the default
[03:25] <Super> bianconeri: can you check something for me
[03:25] <Flannel> !tell desi_ about sudo
[03:25] <anto9us> diodorus, that drive parameters are correct or set to auto
[03:25] <iamtheric> doesnt anyone use visualboyadvance?
[03:25] <bianconeri> could that have to do something with it?
[03:25] <Super> what version of xserver-xorg-core do you have installed?
[03:25] <eck0> me
[03:25] <Flannel> desi_: ubuntu uses sudo, not su.  The page ubotu sent you has information on how it all works, and why.
[03:25] <eck0> you need  cedega to  open it
[03:25] <Cirvin_Fox> negative, it wont allow me to make a symbolic link because /dev/dsp already exists
[03:25] <diodorus> anto9us, I'm trying to install ubuntu to an external usb harddrive.
[03:25] <moshe_> hello folks
[03:25] <Nicolae> Oh. /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp then
[03:25] <Flannel> AdamKili: FFs updates will happen normally with all your other software updates, but not via FF itself
[03:25] <Super> i am running edgy too but X is driving me nuts
[03:25] <bianconeri> command?
[03:25] <moshe_> is firefox going to be updated to 2.0 in dapper?
[03:26] <moshe_> or has it already?
[03:26] <Flannel> moshe_: no.  And it wont be
[03:26] <bazz> i'm looking for a bittorrent client that supports rss (auto-download) and adding of new torrents/feeds over a web interface.  i know azureus can do this but i was wondering if there is anything with a slightly smaller footprint (ideally no gui as i'll never be looking at it)
[03:26] <bazz> ohh, and stats over a web interface would be nice too
[03:26] <anto9us> diodorus, ok, are you using the alternate cd? I think it needs that.
[03:26] <moshe_> just security fixes in 1.5?
[03:26] <Cirvin_Fox> that fails as well
[03:26] <Super> sudo dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core
[03:26] <Nicolae> no idea, then. sorry :/
[03:26] <Flannel> moshe_: or at least, not in the official repositories, there might be a FF2 deb on seveas' repostories, or otherwise.  Right, just security fixes.
[03:26] <sc0tt> bazz: there was a php script that did all that
[03:26] <sc0tt> i don't remember its name
[03:26] <cliffd> is there a certain reason to install or not install the X64 version? I have an Athlon64  cpu.
[03:26] <sc0tt> but it was _really_ nice
[03:27] <Super> probably 1.1.1-0ubuntu10
[03:27] <eck0> does anyone know the APt-get command to get nvidia drivers?
[03:27] <bazz> sc0tt: hrm, i'll google around a bit and see if i can find it
[03:27] <moshe_> I'm not liking edgy and I'm going to downgrade back to comfortable dapper.  That's why I'm asking.
[03:27] <sc0tt> eck0: I think you have to get them form their site
[03:27] <fatbrain> How do I replace firefox 1.5.xxx with new 2.0?
[03:27] <sc0tt> from*
[03:27] <Xenguy> moshe_: if there isn't a backport anytime soon, I'll be a monkey's uncle =)
[03:27] <moshe_> edgy is a little too.... edgy for me. :)
[03:27] <diodorus> anto9us, I don't know what the alternative cd is. The cd I have is the live cd for casper 6.06 TLS
[03:27] <eck0> that one doesnt work well
[03:27] <bazz> sc0tt: torrentflux by any chance?
[03:27] <jrib> fatbrain: edgy will have firefox2.0.  It will be released as stable in 2 days
[03:27] <Flannel> !Tell eck0 about nvidia
[03:28] <AdamKili> Flannel: ok i have no idea what FF updates are, but i'll check my Firefox version in a few days and if it's not 2 then i'll come back here
[03:28] <Flannel> AdamKili: It won't be 2.  At least, not in Dapper.
[03:28] <anto9us> diodorus, there's an alternate cd, I needed it to set up on raid, I imagine USB to be same issue
[03:28] <Xenguy> jrib: 2 days?! you are joking
[03:28] <sc0tt> bazz: sounded something like that
[03:28] <bazz> sc0tt: just found it, looks perfect, thanks much :)
[03:28] <sc0tt> no problem
[03:28] <sc0tt> :)
[03:28] <jrib> Xenguy: nope! :)
[03:28] <bianconeri> ii  xserver-xorg-c 1.1.1-0ubuntu1 X.Org X server -- core server
[03:29] <Xenguy> jrib: get outta here
[03:29] <Cirvin_Fox> perhaps there is a way to make /dev/dsp represent my second sound card?
[03:29] <Cirvin_Fox> or remove /dev/dsp
[03:29] <Super> bianconeri: thanks men
[03:29] <Super> *man, i have the same
[03:29] <Super> but i need to downgrade it
[03:29] <Nicolae> Cirvin_Fox: can you rm -f /dev/dsp1 and try to ln -s again?
[03:29] <diodorus> anto9us, ah. I see what you are saying. Yes, I'm aware of the modifications I need to make to certain files in order for ubuntu to recognize and support my usb device. It actually recognizes it right now, so it should be able to install to my external HD.
[03:29] <Cirvin_Fox> i dont want dsp1 to go away
[03:30] <bianconeri> So any ideas on my problem Super? Guys?
[03:30] <moshe_> hmmm
[03:30] <axisys> is there a ubuntu pkg for firefox 2.0?
[03:30] <Nicolae> remove /dev/dsp, then. Same way
[03:30] <Flannel> axisys: no
[03:30] <moshe_> why do firefox's fonts look different in gnome than they do in xfce?
[03:30] <moshe_> weird
[03:30] <Nicolae> then try to link it to /dev/dsp1
[03:30] <riddlebox> I installed the nvidia drivers and now my system is locking up?
[03:30] <Cirvin_Fox> ok, that may have done it
[03:30] <axisys> Flannel: thnx
[03:31] <moshe_> oh forget it.
[03:31] <moshe_> no big deal
[03:31] <Cirvin_Fox> verifying...
[03:31] <AdamKili> Flannel: y?
[03:32] <Super> what version of grub do you have? sudo dpkg -l grub
[03:32] <LinuxGuy2006> when edgy comes out how do I stop it from showing up in the updater and nagging me to upgrade?
[03:32] <Flannel> AdamKili: because each release is frozen at specific versions of things, they recieve nothing but bugfixes/etc during their lifetime
[03:32] <Arrick> Flannel, you got a minute for a pm?
[03:32] <Flannel> Arrick: sure
[03:32] <Cirvin_Fox> score!
[03:33] <Cirvin_Fox> worked perfectly, thanks for the help!
[03:33] <AdamKili> Flannel: and so the next release is Edgy? when's that's set to release?
[03:33] <Flannel> AdamKili: thursday
[03:33] <bianconeri> Super http://pastebin.ca/220161
[03:34] <Xenguy> jrib: sh*t you were serious :0
[03:34] <jrib> Xenguy: lol...
[03:34] <AdamKili> Flannel: whoa and does the update notifier pop up and it downloads it and i'm all set, or is it more complicated? (i've not been using linux more than 1 1/2 weeks)
[03:34] <Xenguy> jrib: somehow in my mind Edgy was just ... out there on the edge somewhere ;-)
[03:35] <Flannel> AdamKili: basically.  Although since youre upgrading from a LTS, I'm prtty sure it won't be nearly as prominent as Dappers was
[03:35] <LinuxGuy2006> when edgy comes out how do I stop it from showing up in the updater and nagging me to upgrade?
[03:35] <Flannel> LinuxGuy2006: that last comment is for you too.  I think once you dismiss the upgrade thing once, it'll stop.
[03:35] <LinuxGuy2006> oh ok
[03:35] <LinuxGuy2006> and when does FF2 come to dapper
[03:35] <Flannel> LinuxGuy2006: never
[03:35] <LinuxGuy2006> WHAT?
[03:36] <Xenguy> mwuhah
[03:36] <Homer> when is ubunti bambi fawm comming out
[03:36] <dabaR> it is stable, and no new apps come into it...
[03:36] <Super> bianconeri - that is what you get when you do the dpkg -l grub?
[03:36] <Homer> fawn
[03:36] <Flannel> LinuxGuy2006: never in an official repository, I'm sure there'll be unofficial debs of it places, seveas will probably have one
[03:36] <Arrick> have a grand night Flannel
[03:36] <dabaR> Homer: go read the ubuntu web site about releases
[03:36] <bianconeri> Super - Yes
[03:36] <AdamKili> Flannel: thank you
[03:36] <Flannel> LinuxGuy2006: version in all ubuntu releases are frozen, only bugfixes/etc after release
[03:36] <Super> hmm.
[03:36] <Super> things seem a little complicated
[03:37] <Super> it seems that your grub is a little messed up and that is not good
[03:37] <Super> because it is usually installed in the MBR of the hard drive and if things do not go well it can mess up a lot
[03:37] <Super> do you have a backup?
[03:37] <quib> hi i got a problem with sudo, if someone could help me :S
[03:37] <Super> just in case?
[03:38] <dabaR> what is the problem, quib
[03:38] <jingling> hello
[03:38] <bianconeri> backup of my system?
[03:38] <LinuxGuy2006> but FF1.5 is built into dapper, if you upgrade it wont that break it?
[03:38] <bianconeri> I could backup my home folder
[03:39] <quib> i just install ubuntu oem, and i create a new user after the instalation with the oem user, and I deleted the oem user after,   now my new user dont have sudo :S
[03:39] <Super> you have only linux?
[03:39] <bianconeri> yes three partitions
[03:39] <jstarcher> i DO
[03:40] <dabaR> quib: reboot, start in single user mode and run adduser <user> admin
[03:40] <Super> ok, just in case do a backup of the home somewhere
[03:40] <bianconeri> this one (dapper updated to edgy, edgy installed a month ago, and CentOS)
[03:40] <quib> ! cool thx :)
[03:40] <jstarcher> I have this thing that is running called java_vm and it's at 100% load all night. I can't kill it, I've tried everything but a reboot. What do I do? Nothing else is running and I don't know why that is!
[03:40] <dabaR> quib: maybe it is called safe mode, or something
[03:40] <Clinton__> What's a good CPU monitor for KDE's applet panel?
[03:41] <quib> yeah i have gone to recevory mode its root acess
[03:41] <Super> did you install centos later?
[03:41] <dabaR> recovery mode, right
[03:41] <Snake> What program can I use to make brocures?
[03:41] <SeanTater> I used <img>'s in <a href>'s, but I always get a blue box around it in firefox. How do I fix that?
[03:41] <ace> what is the name of the w32 font package?
[03:41] <quib> and will it do the system-edmin menu too? :S
[03:41] <Super> do not quote me on that but grub might be reading the kernel list from the centos partition
[03:41] <Clinton__> ace: msttcorefonts
[03:42] <Super> bianconeri?
[03:42] <quib> admin*
[03:42] <Snake> SeanTater: add border="0" in your img tag
[03:42] <bianconeri> in this order 1-This ubuntu (Dapper-->Edgy) 2-Centos 3-Edgy the 3rd is the default
[03:42] <SeanTater> Snake: Thanks!
[03:42] <Snake> SeanTater: np
[03:42] <Snake> What program can I use to make brocures?
[03:43] <Xenguy> jrib: I should have known there was a catch - can you say "Release Candidate" ?  :P
[03:43] <Super> do a backup of the home folder
[03:43] <Xenguy> Snake: scribus = DTP (desktop publishing)
[03:43] <jrib> Xenguy: well the release candidate was a few days ago, the actual final release is (afaik) still planned for the 26th
[03:43] <Snake> Xenguy: thanks :-)
[03:44] <dabaR> Snake: scribus I think.
[03:44] <Xenguy> Snake: yw
[03:44] <anto9us> Snake, openoffice.org writer or draw, inkscape, scribus
[03:44] <dabaR> Xenguy: ...
[03:44] <Xenguy> jrib: I'm reading this: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/EdgyReleaseCandidate
[03:44] <Lord_Rage> Can someone help me with a small Ubuntu problem?
[03:44] <xipietotec> aww.....tilda no longer works...
[03:45] <jrib> !helpme | Lord_Rage
[03:45] <Xenguy> dabaR: hi (your nick is familiar)
[03:45] <dabaR> Lord_Rage: state it
[03:45] <Nameeater> how can I change my default multimedia player?
[03:45] <ubotu> Lord_Rage: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:45] <bianconeri> ok
[03:45] <bianconeri> whats ur idea?
[03:45] <dabaR> Xenguy: i get around;) not really, I come here often though. You just answered Snake with the same program I was about to type.
[03:45] <Lord_Rage> Well, can I just extract the Ubuntu .iso, and install straight from the HD?  Or is that impossible?  My laptops CD drive is dead
[03:46] <anto9us> Nameeater, right click a media file, select properties, open with, and you can then choose your preferred application for that filetype
[03:46] <ricanelite> how can i replace the dapper with edgy, I remember typing something in my terminal and it open up a edit program and then i said replace dapper with edgy and select replace all and it did it for me
[03:46] <Super> once you are do do this#sudo grub-install /dev/XXX
[03:46] <Super> where XXX is you hard drive
[03:46] <dabaR> !upgrade
[03:46] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:47] <Xenguy> dabaR: ah, gotcha
[03:47] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know the package I need to watch .WMVs on my computer?
[03:47] <Super> bianconeri: NOT your partition
[03:47] <Chad207> hey question - is the Edgy release candidate that's out right now gonna be much different than the one that's getting released on the 26th?
[03:47] <Super> carefull
[03:47] <eck0> hey how do i remove hardware
[03:47] <Xenguy> !codecs > SpudDogg
[03:47] <eck0> well uninstall it
[03:47] <eck0> it still shows that i got an ati card when i have a nvidia
[03:47] <dabaR> Chad207: no different in terms of app versions. only bug fixes are allowed now
[03:47] <DigitalNinja> chad207: Good question. I'm sucking down the ISO right now. Can't be that different but you never know
[03:48] <bianconeri> kinda stupid question but how would i know my hardrive from the partition?
[03:48] <slop|lap> if i plug a ps2 mouse into my laptop, how can i make it work without restarting?
[03:48] <Chad207> DigitalNinja: ya think it's safe to go ahead and upgrade from dpper permanently today?
[03:48] <DigitalNinja> bianconeri: No such thing as a supid question. Suped people are the ones who don't ask anything.
[03:49] <anto9us> bianconeri, the convention for is HD(letter)(number) where letter indicates drive and number is the partition on that drive
[03:49] <dabaR> bianconeri: what are you exactly asking, I do not think is clear
[03:49] <DigitalNinja> bianconeri: wup! put the "t" where needed
[03:49] <Super> the partition would have something like XXX1
[03:49] <Super> or XXX2
[03:49] <Nicolae> question: SATA drives throw errors in kern.log.  Ratchets down to PIO0, continues until I dismount/remount it. Only happens when I try to transfer more than 5 gigs or so. Getting annoying. Compiled 2.6.18-mm3, so at least it doesn't lock the system up, but makes the drive pretty much unusable until reboot.
[03:49] <iamtheric> !mednafen
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mednafen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <Super> hda1 is the partition, hda is the drive
[03:49] <desi_> how do I find the hostname of my computer
[03:50] <ricanelite> can anyone help me out please
[03:50] <Super> uname -a
[03:50] <DigitalNinja> bianconeri: Is the drive EIDE or SATA
[03:50] <dabaR> desi_: hostname is the command
[03:50] <Super> desi_
[03:50] <dabaR> ricanelite: if you ask a question we will try
[03:50] <Super> DigitalNinja
[03:50] <bianconeri> Ok Ninja noted. Anto9us: I am replying to Super where he was saying use the whole drive not the partition
[03:50] <DigitalNinja> Super: Yup!
[03:50] <diodorus> nt
[03:51] <Super> have a look at bianconeri
[03:51] <Super> bicause it is a little complicated
[03:51] <bianconeri> DigitalNinja: Honestly I do  not know
[03:51] <Super> i think that the grub is reading the menu.lst from the other partition
[03:51] <Super> but i am not sure
[03:51] <bianconeri> but my drives begin with HDA not SDA
[03:51] <dabaR> ricanelite: you want to know how to upgrade? ubotu posted you a link to a web site with that info right after you asked.
[03:51] <Super> after the installation i do not want him to lose the entry of the centos
[03:52] <DigitalNinja> bianconeri: type the following: fdisk -l
[03:52] <ricanelite> okay, I will like to change dapper to edgy, now i remember opening up my terminal and typing in a command which open up a edit program which I could replace dapper to edgy and i selected replace all and thats i was done
[03:52] <dabaR> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[03:52] <Chad207> Question: if I install Edgy today, will I be able to upgrde to the actual release version when it comes out?
[03:52] <bianconeri> Oh and did i mention that Nautilus isnt launching also?:D ...will do DigitalNinja
[03:52] <Super> Hey people, did anybody downgrade Xserver-xorg in Edgy
[03:52] <DigitalNinja> bianconeri: If what you get back is "sd" something then they are SATA drives. If it sayas "hd" something it's EIDE
[03:52] <dabaR> ricanelite: see the link?
[03:53] <DigitalNinja> clear
[03:53] <gnomefreak> Super: edgy = #ubuntu+1
[03:53] <bianconeri> Ninja: Ok then its SATA
[03:53] <Super> gnomefreak: Niceeeee
[03:53] <Super> thanks men
[03:53] <anto9us> Chad207, that should be automatic, yes, you'll find there will be just a few package upgrades I suspect
[03:53] <bianconeri> Gnomefreak: So I am in the wrong channel?
[03:53] <dabaR> Chad207: off course
[03:54] <dabaR> bianconeri: to ask edgy questions that channel is still the right one
[03:54] <Chad207> anto9us: thanks
[03:54] <Borat> does anyone know how to get certain themes to do a 19pixel Gnome panel?
[03:54] <gnomefreak> bianconeri: all edgy related questions/support topics need to be in #ubuntu+1
[03:54] <Nicolae> Oops.
[03:54] <DigitalNinja> Super: Down grade?? Why would they want to do that?
[03:54] <iamtheric> know anygood emulators for gameboy that have gameshark capability?
[03:54] <Shadow_mil> how can I print the value of pi?
[03:54] <NickGarvey> Shadow_mil: in what?
[03:54] <Chad207> dabaR: everyone else is asking off-topic questions as well
[03:54] <oblib> Was there some update lately that enabled screen blanking? I can't get my computer to stop blanking the screen after a few minutes -- it didn't used to
[03:54] <Shadow_mil> NickGarvey: bash
[03:55] <Super> DigitalNinja: because the update crashed X http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240957
[03:55] <dabaR> Chad207: I don't care, I just provided him with the info
[03:55] <Borat> Only a few gnome themes support 19pixel gnome panels, how do you transform themes to do that?
[03:55] <oblib> I've disabled (and uninstalled) all screensavers, and even looked in gconf
[03:55] <NickGarvey> Shadow_mil: um.. "python" and the "import math" and then "print math.pi"
[03:55] <SpudDogg> !w32codecs
[03:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:55] <DigitalNinja> Super: What's this about crashing X? My X isn't working at the moment. Maybe that's my problem
[03:55] <Super> i am supposed to do apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-oubuntu10
[03:55] <lampshade> Anyone here happen to know how to edit the right click "Open With" menu?  I want to add an arg to an entry that already exists
[03:56] <Super> it is a problem with everybody
[03:56] <DigitalNinja> Super: What does that command do?
[03:56] <maxfla1> Now I have compiled the kernel.. is there anthing else I have to do acept adding it to the grub list?
[03:56] <Super> nothing it says that the package was not found
[03:56] <Super> probably my mirror has not the latest list
[03:56] <SpudDogg> I have installed w32codecs and followed the guide here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1649012    but for some reason I still cannot play WMVs  any ideas?
[03:56] <bianconeri> Ok guys this is my problem: I upgraded today from dapper to edgy. And these are the problems: 1-the new kernel does not appear in Grub 2-when loading (Loading Kernel Drivers)-->FAILED 3-Nautilus is not working 4-Continuous popping up of the bug tool (I uninstalled it) 5- the desktop seems non-responsive, no icons and can't change background its just a light brown solid background
[03:56] <ricanelite> i just went into Adept and change the distrobution to edgy and thats it so far it seems to be working
[03:56] <Shadow_mil> NickGarvey: what line though?
[03:56] <kk_pdx> what's a url for one of the sites where someone can cutpaste code or config snippets to share?
[03:56] <Super> vier
[03:56] <NickGarvey> Shadow_mil: (echo "import math" && echo "print math.pi") | python
[03:56] <bruenig> Super, try apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[03:56] <NickGarvey> Shadow_mil: that command will do it
[03:56] <DigitalNinja> Super: What was the problem with the X server? I wonder if I have the same problem or version
[03:57] <noway_> I am trying to add my windows partition to the grub boot menu, and I am in menu.lst ... I know its /dev/sda2 but I dont know if its (hd1,0) or what
[03:57] <dabaR> lampshade: does not look like there is a way. Maybe somewhere in gconf, but it would likely be easier to just add a custom command to thwe open with menu
[03:57] <bruenig> noway, it would be hd0,1  assuming it is the second partition on your first hard drive
[03:57] <Super> DigitalNinja: no servers found -iget a: module abi major version (0) doesn't mach ...
[03:57] <SpudDogg> I have installed w32codecs and followed the guide here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1649012    but for some reason I still cannot play WMVs  any ideas?
[03:57] <noway_> bruenig, ahh ok, thank you
[03:58] <Chad293> daba: sorry, thought you meant "off course"
[03:58] <Super> for all the possble drivers, ati, vesa, radeon ...
[03:58] <Super> so basically i can not find the old package
[03:58] <snoops> SpudDogg the newer wmv's with DRM still can't be played I believe
[03:58] <DigitalNinja> Super: Are you upgrading X or down grading X?
[03:58] <dabaR> kk_pdx: paste.ubuntu-nl.org. is it in the topic?
[03:58] <blanny> can someone tell me what i should do when module-assistant does build the entire driver set?
[03:58] <Super> I upgraded it and now i want to downgrade to make it work again
[03:59] <DigitalNinja> I see
[03:59] <SpudDogg> snoops:  this is actually a home video, and I seriously doubt it has DRM.
[03:59] <Super> i will try the ubuntu+1
[03:59] <DigitalNinja> Super: What version do you have
[03:59] <blanny> im trying to get tiglusb from timodules-dev but module-assistant only wants to make tipar and not tiglusb
[03:59] <Super> probably somebody has a URL
[03:59] <snoops> ah, right.. what players have you tried SpudDogg?
[03:59] <Homer> cc  c
[03:59] <SpudDogg> just totem
[03:59] <bianconeri> anyone??
[03:59] <oblib> Was there some update lately that enabled screen blanking? I can't get my computer to stop blanking the screen after a few minutes -- it didn't used to
[03:59] <Super> xserver-xorf-core 1.1.1-oubuntu10
[04:00] <SpudDogg> snoops, think i should try kaffeine?
[04:00] <riddlebox> what can I do about nvidia drivers locking up my system?
[04:00] <snoops> I'd give mplayer a go
[04:00] <Super> DigitalNinja: my spelling skills today rock :))
[04:00] <DigitalNinja> Super: How do I find out the version I have
[04:00] <Super> dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core
[04:00] <dabaR> bianconeri: /j #ubuntu+1
[04:01] <DigitalNinja> riddlebox: Join the club! I was hoping to spend the day playing battlefield 1942 on my new nvidia card but no luck
[04:01] <snoops> and where did you install the w32 codecs from?
[04:01] <DigitalNinja> Super: xserver-xorg-c 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 X.Org X server -- core server
[04:02] <riddlebox> DigitalNinja, I actually installed edgy because I thought it was something in dapper but still have the problem in edgy
[04:02] <Super> yes, that is the one i want
[04:02] <blanny> can someone tell me how i specify which drivers module-assistant will make from a set?
[04:02] <Super> let me change the sources.list to dapper and see
[04:02] <DigitalNinja> riddlebox: What kind of problems are you having? My box locks up on me and the screen truns to garbage
[04:03] <snoops> is there a list of bug fixes from dapper to edgy?
[04:03] <riddlebox> DigitalNinja, my box locks up and I can only move the mouse
[04:03] <DigitalNinja> riddlebox: That happens to me as well
[04:03] <fnf> Is there anyone using nfsclient ?.
[04:03] <Flannel> snoops: Edgy isn't really 'bugfixes' from dapper, it's new versions of everything
[04:03] <mumrah> should i upgrade to 6.10, or is it still too beta
[04:03] <DigitalNinja> riddlebox: What kind of hard ware are you using
[04:04] <sc0tt_> gets released tomorrow doesn't it?
[04:04] <snoops> yeah I realise that Flannel, but I was hoping there would also be some bug fixes from dapper
[04:04] <riddlebox> DigitalNinja, nvidia geforce 5200
[04:04] <eegore> does somebody know what I need to put in my xorg to get the system to see the eight mouse buttons I have?
[04:04] <oblib> Can anyone tell me how to make my computer stop blanking the screen after a few minutes of idleness?
[04:04] <snoops> eegore, you'll need to use the evdev driver, and point it to a different place for hardware and such..
[04:05] <snoops> if you follow say an mx1000 guide
[04:05] <DigitalNinja> riddlebox: nvidia geforce nx7600 on a epox geforce 6100 motherboard
[04:05] <snoops> it should outline what you need to do for yours
[04:05] <dabaR> oblib: is it software or hardware?
[04:05] <eegore> snoops: evdev driver
[04:05] <eegore> ?
[04:05] <jl_> oblib  change screensaver timeout
[04:05] <SpudDogg> snoops, turns out all you need to play the encrypted WMVs and DVDs is this .deb     http://developers.videolan.org/libdvdcss/
[04:05] <fnf> oblib: take a look at the man pages of xset, under dpms section
[04:05] <DigitalNinja> riddlebox: I've got a thread going on the mailing list
[04:05] <oblib> dabaR,  and jl_ screensaver is disabled.
[04:05] <Flannel> snoops: well, yes, theoretically the new versions already have all the fixes that were put into dapper
[04:06] <oblib> fnf, DPMS is disabled, can xset still mess with stuff?
[04:06] <snoops> Flannel, just wanted a list of known fixes, however small it is ;)
[04:06] <fnf> oblib: how to you know it was disabled ?
[04:06] <Flannel> snoops: I don't believe one exists, no.
[04:06] <meheren> how do I get opera to identify itself as ie
[04:06] <meheren> or firefox... or epiphany
[04:06] <snoops> eegore right, your xorg.cong using the mouse driver, instead of evdev..what mouse is it?
[04:07] <oblib> fnf, I told it so in my xorg.conf, and MythTV detects it as disabled
[04:07] <mumrah> so should i stick with Dapper? or is Edgy worth the upgrade right now
[04:07] <MrBond82> Can someone help me setup dhcp server for eth1 but not eth0, and can someone help me run get bind/named working so that I can use my gateway Ip to do dns lookups on behalf of my clients?
[04:07] <SpudDogg> !edgy
[04:07] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:07] <Flannel> meheren: You'd have to change the UA it sends out.  It... might be in the configuration
[04:07] <SpudDogg> !schedule
[04:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:07] <bruenig> mumrah, two days, I would just wait for the final release
[04:07] <eegore> logitech mx518
[04:07] <Flannel> Edgy is scheduled for release on the 26th
[04:07] <mumrah> bruenig: ok, will do
[04:07] <oblib> fnf, I just tried 'xset -dpms' I'll see if that helps
[04:08] <mumrah> bruening, will i be able to upgrade without a full reinstall?
[04:08] <meheren> flannel, any idea where this configuration is?
[04:08] <dabaR> MrBond82: what dhcp server?
[04:08] <snoops> eegore then yes, definitely need to use the evdev driver
[04:08] <fnf> oblib: It seems to be out of my reach here, but I'd try to re-enable it and run 'xset dpms 0 0 0' to practically disable all kinds of blanking. Just a check.
[04:08] <eegore> snoops: is there a howto?
[04:08] <bruenig> mumrah, you should be able to upgrade like in the past, i.e. without a full reinstall, unless you want a full reinstall which can be done also
[04:08] <MrBond82> dabaR-- no idea to tell you the truth... I installed ubuntu dapper server CD and i saw it installed dhcp3-client so I wonder if I gotta use dhcp3-serer as well?
[04:08] <Flannel> meheren: the ... options menu item or whatever?
[04:08] <snoops> yep, there will be howto's in the ubuntu forums and howtos all over google eegore
[04:09] <meheren> flannel, under firefox? or opera or epiphany
[04:09] <oblib> fnf, weird thing is that it didn't used to, so I figure some recent update changed something.
[04:09] <Flannel> meheren: Opera... FF you can get a plugin to do it, User Agent switcher.  Epiphany,... no idea.  try googling, or poke around the options
[04:09] <Chad448> hey guys got a quick rdiff-backup question
[04:09] <meheren> ok... thanks for your help
[04:10] <mumrah> bruenig, thanks
[04:10] <dabaR> MrBond82: you want just any dhcp server, then, right? I use dnsmasq and it has one self-explanatory config file in which you can set which interface to run it on
[04:11] <dabaR> MrBond82: now, I am saying this out of memory, let me check.
[04:11] <fnf> oblib: Yup, there're things that's not totally obvious, even in OSS such as Linux, me has the same minor issue with portmap about it automatically starts at boot time, no matter what I told it not to.
[04:11] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know if doing my financial planning with a program like "KMyMoney" is secure enough?
[04:12] <dabaR> MrBond82: ya, my memory was correct.
[04:12] <MrBond82> dabar- what is dnsmasq ?
[04:12] <SpudDogg> snoops did you get my last message to you?
[04:13] <dabaR> MrBond82: a dns masquerading dhcp server
[04:13] <snoops> SpudDogg the libdvdcss one?
[04:13] <dabaR> MrBond82: meaning it does dns as well
[04:13] <SpudDogg> snoops, yea that was the one.  you didnt comment, and i just wanted to make sure you got it.  i thought it was a pretty handy piece of info
[04:15] <dabaR> MrBond82: they have a tutorial here: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/system_administration_books/ubuntu_starter_guide/ch07s04.html it is not for dnsmasq, though.
[04:15] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know if doing my financial planning with a program like "KMyMoney" is secure enough?
[04:16] <SpudDogg> !edgy
[04:16] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:16] <SpudDogg> !schedule
[04:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:18] <w30> SpudDogg, as secure as your operating system is, I would suppose
[04:18] <varsendaggr> i think i have a key logger....   is there any way to find out?
[04:18] <MrBond82> what the frig is up with there being config files in /etc/default ?
[04:20] <abbi2b> hey ! I installed i686 smp kernel on my laptop but it crached
[04:20] <MrBond82> varsendaggr-- ps aux
[04:20] <MrBond82> varsendaggr-- look for anything weird
[04:20] <nol13> hi i need help, all of a sudden my scroll wheel doesnt work, anyone have any idea why this might be?   it could have something to do with a short power outage cuz it hasnt worked since, but everything else is fine so i dunno. how can i fix this?
[04:20] <MrBond82> varsendaggr-- go to google and check each process to see if there are any funny ones
[04:20] <abbi2b> the default i386 works fine
[04:21] <wweasel> Is there a command I can pass in Bash to lock the screen?
[04:21] <Xenguy> So Edgy is being released like a month early?!
[04:21] <Xenguy> wweasel: man vlock
[04:21] <Xenguy> wweasel: that may or may not be what you want actually
[04:21] <wweasel> Xenguy: Is that equivalent to hitting the power button in the top right corner and choosing "Lock Screen"?
[04:22] <Xenguy> wweasel: no, I think you want to set a hotkey to lock the screen in Gnome - is that it?
[04:23] <wweasel> Xenguy: No, I want to set an alias in my bashrc to lock my screen.
[04:23] <SuperMiguel> is edgy ready?
[04:23] <livingtm> does easyubuntu work on edgy?
[04:23] <oblib> dabaR,  did you have any suggestions for helping me disable blanking?
[04:23] <Xenguy> wweasel: do you want to lock screen on the command line (i.e. console) or in X ?
[04:23] <wweasel> Xenguy: command line
[04:24] <Xenguy> wweasel: at the console, use 'vlock'
[04:24] <Xenguy> wweasel: in X, try: System > Preferences > Keyboard shortcuts
[04:24] <dabaR> oblib: no, not really, just the really basic ideas which you seem to have tried already
[04:24] <nol13> i like you guys, do you like me?
[04:25] <wweasel> Xenguy: vlock looks to be just the trick. thanks
[04:25] <MrBond82> nol13 - you rock
[04:25] <Xenguy> wweasel: yw
[04:25] <nol13> thx, u2
[04:25] <Xenguy> nol13: <drawl> well now that all depends... </drawl>
[04:25] <SeanTater> Ever seen the directory listings like these: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ ? How do I embed the listings into a web page like that?
[04:26] <SuperMiguel> is edgy ready???
[04:26] <DarkMageZ> SuperMiguel, not till the 26'th
[04:26] <SeanTater> SuperMiguel: only 99% so, it's still in RC
[04:27] <SuperMiguel> it will be in 2 days
[04:27] <SuperMiguel> what else are they going to do?
[04:27] <tarzeau> someone who can help me to get this built? http://80.219.69.249/lud/lonewarrior.tar.gz
[04:27] <SeanTater> SuperMiguel: watch for showstopper bugs
[04:28] <dabaR> if there are broken packages on my system, is that definitely going to be noticed by aptitude -f install?
[04:29] <MrBond82> Whats the difference between dhcpd and dhcp3-server ?
[04:30] <Alakazamz0r> one serves DHCP
[04:30] <Alakazamz0r> oh
[04:30] <Alakazamz0r> i duno
[04:30] <linoob> hello
[04:30] <Alakazamz0r> hello
[04:30] <linoob> i need help installing firefox 2, im getting errors
[04:31] <MrBond82> linoob - what errors?
[04:31] <DigitalNinja> I think i have my nvidia card working
[04:31] <DigitalNinja> I compiled from source
[04:32] <linoob> firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:32] <fatbrain> How can I change the default-application which runs when I'm double-clicking a file?
[04:32] <DigitalNinja> or the tool from nvidia compiled from source
[04:32] <MrBond82> linoob-- try apt-get install libmozjs
[04:32] <DigitalNinja> time to take it out for a test drive
[04:32] <DigitalNinja> be back
[04:32] <dabaR> fatbrain: right click on file, properties, open with
[04:33] <linoob> i would, but thyat only has firefox 1.5, 2 was released 4 hrs ago
[04:33] <Cas> I try to get some data from a bad ext3 partition, dd stalls when I read the partition. Is there any way how I can find out what blocks are corrupted so I can skip them or another way to some data back?
[04:33] <fatbrain> dabaR: that will change it that instance, but I want all my files ending with .ext opened with a different program
[04:33] <andresmujica> Cas: try with dd_rescue
[04:34] <Cas> andresmujica: thanks! I will try it out!
[04:35] <dabaR> fatbrain: it should do that.
[04:36] <bruenig> linoob, firefox 2.0 has been out on ftp servers for 30 hours or so
[04:37] <bruenig> and RC 3 is actually the exact same as firefox 2.0 so if you counted that, it would be much longer
[04:37] <kitche> linoob: you can also download it right from their website
[04:37] <linoob> but it hasn't been officially distributed on the website untill tjust then
[04:37] <dabaR> anyways, I bet my life that someone will have a 2.0 firefox for dapper packaged soon, and I dare to speculate it will be in the seveas packages
[04:37] <hansin321> join #ubuntu-boot
[04:37] <sethk> you really don't need a package for firefox.  It is simply a directory
[04:38] <bruenig> linoob, it is generally pretty easy to run the firefoxes from thier site. Just get it extract it, cd into and ./firefox
[04:38] <dabaR> people like packages, give people what they like
[04:38] <nol13> ok never mind about the scroll wheel, switched mice and it work now, but one more thing, my keyboad map is off, a little, the 'pipe' foward slash' key gives < and > and im not sure what map i should switch too
[04:38] <fatbrain> dabaR: got it working, thanks
[04:38] <sethk> dabaR, I'm not objecting, just saying that people don't have to wait for it.
[04:38] <dabaR> fatbrain: good work, welcome
[04:38] <dabaR> sethk: true
[04:39] <hansin321> Curious how people are liking Firefox 2.0 vs. 1.5.x.
[04:39] <tarzeau> hansin321: i don't like either
[04:39] <dabaR> hansin321: I use epiphany
[04:39] <bruenig> I like the default theme a little better. Not big on the x on each tab. Have to be careful now when I switch tabs so as to not close it
[04:39] <nol13> havent tried 2.o yet, curious as well
[04:39] <nol13> i dont like epiphany tho
[04:40] <dabaR> does it change tabs when you use the scroll wheel over tabs?
[04:40] <tarzeau> tried links2 -g ?
[04:40] <bruenig> epiphany needs a search bar, and some more extensions and then it is usable
[04:40] <linoob> nope, didn't run
[04:40] <Super> goodbye guys
[04:40] <dabaR> bruenig: you can search from the address bar
[04:40] <bruenig> google yeah
[04:41] <nol13> epiphany needs a search bar, and some more extensions and then it is usable
[04:41] <hansin321> By the way, in an IM client, when you are responding to someone (e.g. --> hansin321: i dont like either) is there a way to automatically have there name start at the begining of a line, or do people just type it in before their response.  Just curious.  Thanks.
[04:41] <bruenig> dabaR, it doesn't change tabs when you scroll
[04:41] <kitche> hansin321: type part of name then press tab in your IRC client
[04:42] <nol13> bye bye phans!
[04:42] <sethk> hansin321, how would the client know to whom your comment is directed?
[04:42] <kenshin_ds> anyone
[04:42] <hansin321> kitche: Thanks!!
[04:42] <bruenig> now it has tabs scroll across the screen which is pretty stupid. Instead of just resizing them constantly, it has some minimum size and if you have too many tabs to fit that minimum size, it makes you scroll to see them
[04:42] <kenshin_ds> can send me the list of repositories extrA?
[04:42] <kenshin_ds> ubuntuguide.org is down
[04:43] <kenshin_ds> and i can get the extra repositories
[04:43] <sethk> bruenig, doesn't it have a config option to not do that?
[04:43] <hansin321> I must have a BASH (or C or K or etc.) shell running inside this thing ;)
[04:43] <sethk> kenshin_ds, ordinarily they are in your file already, albeit commented out.
[04:43] <linoob> wtf
[04:43] <bruenig> sethk, I am sure it does. Probably has a config option on the red x too
[04:43] <kenshin_ds> sethk, hum...
[04:44] <dabaR> bruenig: ya, epiphany does that too.
[04:44] <sethk> kenshin_ds, I can put mine on the paste site for you, but check first
[04:44] <kenshin_ds> ok
[04:44] <hansin321> Just kidding of course.  I didn't know it could do name completion with Tab.
[04:44] <dabaR> what is that thing you typpe into the address bar to get to the settings? about: properties or what was it?
[04:44] <kenshin_ds> here is all uncommented
[04:44] <kitche> dabaR: about:config
[04:45] <sethk> hansin321, you were kidding, but you were also right.  There is a common library used by applications that do tab completion.
[04:45] <kenshin_ds> sethk, if u cant paste your on a site i will be thankful
[04:45] <kenshin_ds> *can
[04:45] <sethk> kenshin_ds, k
[04:45] <Random_Transit> can anyone tell me if firefox 2 is in the repos yet??
[04:45] <sethk> !paste
[04:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:45] <jtf0518> anyone here running X11vnc with XGL and Beryl on Dapper?
[04:45] <hansin321> I have not tried Edge yet.  Is there a noticable difference with the init replacement?
[04:45] <hansin321> sethk: Thanks also.
[04:46] <linoob> whats the command to uninstall a packge
[04:46] <fiveiron> linoob, "sudo apt-get remove package-name"
[04:46] <linoob> ty
[04:46] <tarzeau> anyone going to http://nightshift.untergrund.net/ ?
[04:47] <sethk> kenshin_ds, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28198/
[04:47] <kenshin_ds> sethk, very very thanks :D
[04:47] <Agrajag-> g'day, i just upgraded to edgy from dapper and i don't get DRI with xorg using fglrx. in my Xorg.log i get "DRI initialization failed! (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad)". lsmod tells me that the fglrx module is loaded. i have the xorg-driver-fglrx and linux-restricted-modules-generic packages installed. current kernel is 2.6.17-10-generic. what could be wrong?
[04:47] <bruenig> ah, I figured out how to get that x off
[04:47] <kitche> Agrajag-: see if mesalib is installed
[04:48] <tritium> Agrajag-: #ubuntu+1 for edgy for a few more days
[04:48] <Chippy> tritium: edgy comes out on the 26th right?
[04:48] <MrBond82> Are there any good documents that can help me setup bind to be a dns request forwarder?
[04:48] <linoob> wats new in edgy
[04:48] <sethk> MrBond82, why bind?
[04:48] <MrBond82> sethk- why not?
[04:49] <sethk> MrBond82, because that isn't what bind is designed to do.
[04:49] <dabaR> linoob: read the release candidate page from ubuntu.com
[04:49] <sethk> MrBond82, why not use, oh, apache.  :)  It also isn't designed to do that.
[04:49] <tritium> Chippy: yes
[04:49] <Lord_Rage> Can someone give me a hand on installing Ubuntu on an old mac?
[04:49] <Chippy> tritium: thought so, thanks
[04:49] <MrBond82> sethk - what do you use then?
[04:50] <kitche> MrBond82: you mean something like a cache dns server?
[04:50] <sethk> MrBond82, I use dbjdns, but not because bind can't do things.  bind is just too much of a PITA to deal with (IMO, although most people running a name service on a linux box do use it)
[04:50] <MrBond82> kitche - not really even cache.. more like just to ask my isp's dns's whenever an dns lookup is needed
[04:50] <dabaR> linoob: this page in particular https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[04:51] <Agrajag-> kitche: apt-cache search mesalib gives nothing.
[04:51] <sethk> MrBond82, to do that, you just put the servers in /etc/resolv.conf
[04:51] <kitche> MrBond82: umm why not just use a router :)
[04:51] <sethk> MrBond82, you aren't running a name service, you are just telling your own apps who to talk to.
[04:51] <franklin_> How do I access the IEEE1394 port on my laptop? or how do I load the raw1394 module?
[04:52] <dabaR> Lord_Rage: what exact machine?
[04:52] <MrBond82> whoa people hang on here... I got a network behind my ubuntu box.. I need the ubuntu router's ip to be the "dns server" for all the clients. I want the ubuntu to forward the requests to my isp's dns servers
[04:52] <MrBond82> ...on behalf of my clients
[04:52] <Lord_Rage> An ibook g3 clamshell
[04:52] <Lord_Rage> Running 9.1
[04:52] <dobbo0> is there any way to run a wine app via crontab?
[04:53] <_goofy_> any one heard of an image file with the extension .daa
[04:53] <dabaR> Lord_Rage: do you happen to know if it is an oldworld mac?
[04:53] <Lord_Rage> I haven't a clue.  How would I find out?
[04:53] <franklin_> anyone, how do I access the IEEE1394 port on my laptop? or how do I load the raw1394 module?
[04:54] <SpudDogg> does anyone know why i cannot install mplayer?  when i 'sudo apt-get install mplayer' i get an error saying the package has no installation candidate.  any ideas?
[04:54] <kitche> SpudDogg becuase it's not in the repos that you have probably
[04:54] <dabaR> Lord_Rage: not sure:) have you seen this page and found your computer on it?
[04:54] <kitche> !mplayer > SpudDogg
[04:54] <SpudDogg> kitche, sup man!
[04:55] <domster> I don't like the labels for my mounted partitions, which show up on my desktop - and I don't want to have to label the partitions anyway, because the labels wouldn't be correct in other cases: how can I either rename what the show up as on the desktop, or failing that, just remove the icons
[04:56] <domster> and, if possible, I'd still like to have the icons in the places menu, just not on the desktop
[04:56] <dabaR> domster: it is an option for nautilus in the gconf-editor. Does that help?
[04:56] <domster> dabaR, should do
[04:56] <domster> I'll have a hunt aroun
[04:56] <bruenig> gconf-editor, the ease of the registry in linux!
[04:56] <dabaR> cool
[04:57] <do_kev> does anybody have experience setting up permissions with Samba?  I'm trying to get a windows machine to access my linux box, and the Windows machine can see me on the list of workgroup computers, but cannot access my computer or files.
[04:57] <bruenig> oh by the way if anyone cares, I found the about:config option to remove the red x's in firefox 2.0 and to make it where you can have 25 tabs open before it requires you to start scrolling
[04:57] <franklin_> does anyone know how I would go about mounting a device via the ieee1394 (4-pin firewire) port?  Or how I would load or get the raw1394 module?
[04:58] <Lord_Rage> dabaR: What page?
[04:58] <SpudDogg> kitche, i have all the repos checked, and i still get the same error
[04:58] <dabaR> Lord_Rage: heh https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOnMac
[04:59] <XyzzySqrl> Uh, hi. I'm new to Ubuntu and having kind of an intricate and weird issue with it. Should I just blurt out the details...?
[05:00] <dabaR> XyzzySqrl: yes
[05:00] <wastrel> blurt!
[05:00] <wastrel> but don't paste :] 
[05:00] <ArrenLex> !ask
[05:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:01] <boris55> can I ask a question?
[05:01] <ArrenLex> !ask
[05:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:01] <sethk> boris55, you did
[05:01] <sethk> boris55, and you only get one.  :)
[05:01] <XyzzySqrl> My old drive was set up for NTFS. I'd like to read from it. However, I think I managed, in my fumbling, to hose the FAT. It now reads as being a Linux drive, but all the data is still stored in NTFS format (according to Partition Commander).
[05:01] <Hal_> I am running Dapper Drake on an AMD 64, I have recently installed ndiswrapper and am using a windows INF driver for a Netgear wg111v2 wireless adaptor. My network access is limited, I receive pings only from select domains, firefox won't work, and nor will gaim, I am completely stumped. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[05:02] <Lord_Rage> dabaR: It says I need v5.4, where do I get that?
[05:02] <sethk> XyzzySqrl, that's easily fixed, but
[05:02] <boris55> dang.
[05:02] <sethk> XyzzySqrl, it doesn't have a FAT, exactly,
[05:02] <dabaR> Lord_Rage: 5.04?
[05:02] <Led_Zeppelin> anyone here use Skype
[05:02] <dthacker> I just generated an openPGP key.  It shows lots of fields, but now I'm supposed to upload the key-id.  None of these fields are labelled key-id.  what is the key-id?
[05:02] <Alakazamz0r> Hal_, check your DNS settings
[05:02] <sethk> XyzzySqrl, if nothing is changed, other than the partition type, just use fdisk to change it back.
[05:02] <sethk> XyzzySqrl, if the partition itself hasn't been touched, than that will work fine.
[05:03] <Hal_> Alakazamz0r: Sorry, I have been away from Linux a good 5 years, where do I check the DNS settings?
[05:03] <sethk> XyzzySqrl, however, it's hard to understand how you got into that position without touching the partition.
[05:03] <Alakazamz0r> ./etc/resolv.conf
[05:03] <Lord_Rage> dabaR: Wait, nvm, I read it wrong.  But yea, mines on the list
[05:03] <Hal_> Alakazamz0r: What would I be looking for?
[05:03] <Alakazamz0r> you need to edit that file.
[05:03] <Alakazamz0r> mine reads: nameserver 24.93.41.125
[05:03] <Alakazamz0r> i have 2
[05:03] <dabaR> Lord_Rage: and did you try insatlling and have a problem?
[05:04] <kingrayray> hey, guys on KDE, it seems to have issues in the file manager with a few image types.. for example, it doesn't see JPG's
[05:04] <kingrayray> and when i try to open them
[05:04] <Alakazamz0r> Hal_, http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man5/resolv.conf.5.html
[05:04] <kingrayray> it acts like it doesn't know how to use them
[05:04] <Hal_> OK.
[05:04] <kingrayray> but only some jpg's, its confusing :[
[05:04] <sethk> kingrayray, that's odd, I see them.
[05:04] <Alakazamz0r> Hal_, are you connected through DHCP:
[05:04] <Alakazamz0r> ?
[05:04] <sethk> kingrayray, oh, yes, only some jpegs, that's a bug
[05:04] <Hal_> Yes I think so.
[05:04] <franklin_> does anyone know how I would go about mounting a device via the ieee1394 (4-pin firewire) port?  Or how I would load or get the raw1394 module?
[05:04] <sethk> kingrayray, not sure whether there is a fix for that yet.
[05:04] <XyzzySqrl> sethk: It's quite likely I did accidentally mess with the partition type. Just as the partition section of the Ubuntu installed opened there was a power hiccup. So I decided to stop and reboot and make sure things were okay. This clearly wasn't my best move.
[05:04] <dabaR> Alakazamz0r: I think your nickname is elite, in a positive way
[05:04] <Alakazamz0r> Hal_, have you tried the "dhclient" command?
[05:05] <sethk> XyzzySqrl, well, if that's all you did, it doesn't hurt anything
[05:05] <kingrayray> sethk: i hope there's a fix soon, its irritating.. lol
[05:05] <sethk> XyzzySqrl, it only changes two bytes in the mbr.
[05:05] <kingrayray> least its a known issue, makes me feel better
[05:05] <kingrayray> thanks :)
[05:05] <Alakazamz0r> lol dabaR, it used to be alakazam... but... someone registered that one on me.
[05:05] <Hal_> Alakazamz0r: No, but if I have it we'll find out soon, let me run to the next room to try it.
[05:05] <Alakazamz0r> so i had to change it.
[05:05] <Alakazamz0r> hal
[05:05] <Alakazamz0r> 2nd thought
[05:05] <Alakazamz0r> wait
[05:05] <sethk> kingrayray, yes, indeed.  I used to use konq to print the equivalent of a contact sheet for photos.
[05:05] <XyzzySqrl> sethk: Ah, all right. Er, is there a FAQ on how I'd change it back then, or a guide to that command?
[05:06] <sethk> kingrayray, The kde image viewer has a mode that does mostly the same thing, so that's what I'm using for that purpose now.
[05:06] <dthacker> I have pub, uid, and sub.  Which of these is the key-id that launchpad is asking for?
[05:06] <Alakazamz0r> system>administration>networking
[05:06] <Alakazamz0r> click the dns tab
[05:06] <sethk> XyzzySqrl, just, as root, fdisk /dev/hda   (or whichever hd it is)
[05:06] <Alakazamz0r> make sure something is in DNS servers section Hal_
[05:06] <sethk> XyzzySqrl, then it's all menu driven.
[05:06] <XyzzySqrl> Ah. Thank you, I'll try that!
[05:06] <kingrayray> sethk: yeah, me too- but having icons with no icon, well that's just a pain :P
[05:06] <sethk> XyzzySqrl, there is a menu item for change partition type
[05:06] <Lord_Rage> dabaR: Well, I click to install it, it says "the application th created it could not be found" and I can't get it to boot from CD with "C" or that ctrl+option+apple+Del" thing
[05:06] <sethk> kingrayray, indeed, it is
[05:06] <Hal_> Alakazamz0r: Make sure something is DNS?
[05:06] <Alakazamz0r> yes
[05:07] <sethk> kingrayray, I haven't checked lately, there could be a fix, check the kde web site, and/or the #kde channel(sw)
[05:07] <Hal_> What do you mean?
[05:07] <Alakazamz0r> here's some dns servers
[05:07] <Alakazamz0r> get a pen
[05:07] <Hal_> Yes, OK.
[05:07] <Alakazamz0r> 216.88.76.6
[05:07] <Alakazamz0r> 216.88.77.7
[05:07] <Alakazamz0r> if nothings there use those
[05:07] <Alakazamz0r> if something is there, add one of those as a 3rd
[05:07] <dabaR> Lord_Rage: that is when you boot, and then you click to install?
[05:07] <Hal_> OK.
[05:07] <jackson> where is the python interpreter located in Ubuntu (after installing the repo packages)?
[05:07] <Hal_> Let me give these a shot then.
[05:07] <Alakazamz0r> :)
[05:08] <pppoe_dude> jackson, /usr/bin/python
[05:08] <Lord_Rage> I can't get it to boot from the CD period, so I tried to install it after booting 9.1
[05:08] <jackson> pppoe_dude: I found that, but isn't there supposed to be a single executable which acts as the interpreter? I can't find that file
[05:08] <dabaR> Lord_Rage: not possible afaik. Which CD do you have, Lord_Rage ?
[05:09] <Lord_Rage> dabaR: A burned one
[05:09] <sethk> jackson, /usr/bin/python
[05:09] <dabaR> Lord_Rage: what was the link you used to download it?
[05:09] <pppoe_dude> jackson, that is the interpreter.
[05:09] <pppoe_dude> jackson, or append version number
[05:10] <Lord_Rage> dabaR: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso
[05:10] <jackson> pppoe_dude, sethk: oh! right. sorry thanks
[05:10] <meheren|> yay! i just succesvully got quiktime and itunes running on my box :)
[05:11] <Hal_> OK Alakazamz0r: I have some news, there is a DNS server 10.1.1.1 already in there, that's the wireless router. It tells me my ip address is 10.1.1.3
[05:11] <Hal_> But that can't be right, can it?
[05:11] <sethk> Hal_, why not?
[05:11] <Alakazamz0r> Hal, add those others i gave you
[05:11] <XyzzySqrl> All right, let me see if that worked.
[05:11] <sethk> Hal_, perfectly valid private address
[05:11] <meheren|> i think sites that say oh this only workes with windows.... bla bla are so funny
[05:11] <Alakazamz0r> Hal_, with 10.0.0.1 as your dns server, you're depending on your WAP for DNS.
[05:11] <dabaR> does anyone remember what web page there was mention of a known bug in the desktop cd for dapper ppc that the installer does not work? Or what was it, was it that manually editing part. tables does not work?
[05:11] <Alakazamz0r> something i never like to do
[05:11] <tz`desktop>  in ubuntu, is there a way to disable the graphic boot up mode and do a debug boot up
[05:12] <sethk> Alakazamz0r, nothing wrong with that.
[05:12] <Hal_> WAP is it?
[05:12] <meheren|> so far i have not found a single site like that, that does not work, out of the box, with ubuntu
[05:12] <Hal_> !WAP
[05:12] <pudland> is there a program to handle .deb files for opera?
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about WAP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <Alakazamz0r> sethk, you're putting another variable in the connectivity chain.
[05:12] <Alakazamz0r> less variables.
[05:12] <Alakazamz0r> less problems.
[05:12] <sethk> Alakazamz0r, actually, no, you are taking one out
[05:12] <Hal_> Not WEP?
[05:13] <sethk> Alakazamz0r, one less thing to configure, one less opportunity to make a mistake
[05:13] <Alakazamz0r> sethk, ok...
[05:13] <franklin_> pleeease, does anyone know how I would go about mounting a device via the ieee1394 (4-pin firewire) port?  Or how I would load or get the raw1394 module?
[05:13] <Alakazamz0r> whatever man.
[05:13] <Alakazamz0r> Hal_, just do as i say if you want to get it working.
[05:14] <sethk> Alakazamz0r, lazy.
[05:14] <Hal_> Alakazamz0r: I do, I added your DNS addresses but to no avail.
[05:14] <Alakazamz0r> ok
[05:14] <Hal_> I strike the same problem.
[05:14] <sethk> Hal_, if you aren't getting name resolution, your router needs to be reconfigured
[05:14] <Alakazamz0r> can you ping those dns servers you added?
[05:14] <sethk> Alakazamz0r, even if you set it manually, it will be overwritten on the next dhcp cycle.
[05:14] <Alakazamz0r> Hal_, listen to sethk... he obviously knows everything.
[05:14] <sethk> Alakazamz0r, not everything, but I certainly know this.
[05:14] <Alakazamz0r> ok seth
[05:14] <Hal_> Alakazamz0r: Give a moment I will try.
[05:15] <Hal_> sethk: What do I need to reconfigure
[05:15] <DigitalNinja> I installed the nvidia driver from source. It still doesn't work
[05:15] <tz`desktop> anyone? ;[
[05:15] <sethk> Hal_, if you put in those addresses that Alakazamz0r gave you, and it still didn't resolve, we are looking in the wrong place altogether most likely
[05:15] <Alakazamz0r> 185.49.203.in-addr.arpa nameserver = dns0.telstra.net.
[05:15] <Alakazamz0r> 185.49.203.in-addr.arpa nameserver = dns1.telstra.net.
[05:15] <DigitalNinja> is the X server in Ubuntu woriking or broken in some way?
[05:15] <Alakazamz0r> those are your dns servers Hal_
[05:15] <sethk> Hal_, try resolving a name using either the "host" command or the "dig" command
[05:15] <kitche> DigitalNinja: you editted your xorg.conf?
[05:16] <Alakazamz0r> make sure thats in your router config
[05:16] <sethk> Hal_, both of those allow you to specify a dns server on the command line.  see if you can resolve one that way.
[05:16] <DigitalNinja> kitche: Yup! Well, I ran nvidia-xorg or something
[05:16] <dabaR> I installed another system, and its grub, so I want to use the grub for my ubuntu again, how do I switch back to that grub being the one used?
[05:16] <Alakazamz0r> Hal_, can you ping dns0.telstra.net?
[05:16] <sethk> Hal_, the syntax is:    host name-to-resolve  dns-ip
[05:16] <kitche> DigitalNinja: sudo nvidia-xorgconfig?
[05:16] <DigitalNinja> kitche: I used glxinfo and direct rendering was "yes"
[05:17] <Alakazamz0r> kitche, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:17] <DigitalNinja> sudo nvidia-xorgconfig
[05:17] <Hal_> Alakazamz0r: the dns addresses you gave me sent pings back. I will try that one next.
[05:17] <Hal_> sethk: You want me to use a command line to configure my network?
[05:17] <Alakazamz0r> hal if you nslookup your IP you'll get your DNS servers
[05:17] <Hal_> With those command you just gave me?
[05:18] <DigitalNinja> kitche: I'm thinking of doing an install of Edgy
[05:18] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, dont do it.
[05:18] <kitche> Alakazamz0r: umm ok don't know hwy you sent me that
[05:18] <Alakazamz0r> :)
[05:18] <pluto> Physically looking at my sound card I read the following : CT 1750  - SB 16 MCD CSP.  Does this mean it's a Sound Blaster 16?
[05:18] <Alakazamz0r> i duno kitche random thought of the day.
[05:18] <sethk> Hal_, no, just to check whether you can resolve a name
[05:18] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: Whay not? Is X broken in Edgy
[05:18] <sethk> Hal_, edit /etc/nsswitch.conf, and tell us what's on the dns line
[05:18] <maxflax> IF there are errors booting up.. is there a log file of the errors somewhere?
[05:19] <Alakazamz0r> no, i had some problems w/the video card drivers DigitalNinja
[05:19] <PFA> is there any way to get rid of the menu text on Gnome so that it's not taking up 1/5 of my panel?
[05:19] <sethk> Hal_, sorry, the line is hosts
[05:19] <Hal_> OK sethk, one second.
[05:19] <Alakazamz0r> pluto, does it look like this? http://oldman.ixbt.com/sound/creative/CT-1750(ASP)-1759/CT-1750(ASP)-1759.gif
[05:19] <thor> maxflax: either dmesg or /var/log/messages
[05:19] <sethk> Hal_, there is a line there that will (probably) say     hosts:  files dns
[05:19] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: Maybe I should intall debian stable
[05:19] <sethk> Hal_, see if that is in fact what's there.
[05:19] <maxflax> So u all know.. compiling my own kernell and editing the config.. made my comp 30% faster
[05:19] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, whats wrong w/ubuntu
[05:19] <Alakazamz0r> maxflax, thats doubtful.
[05:19] <JonBoon> how do i install RealPlayer10GOLD.bin?
[05:19] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: I can't get my new nvidia card working
[05:19] <Hal_> sethk: There is no 'DNS' line there at all.
[05:20] <Alakazamz0r> jon_k, sh RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[05:20] <kitche> DigitalNinja: just so you know debian stable is way out of date
[05:20] <sethk> Hal_, the line says:    hosts:   files  dns
[05:20] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, why not.
[05:20] <pluto> Alakazamz0r: I get a Not Found message from that link.
[05:20] <sethk> Hal_, normally.  is there a line beginning with   hosts:   ?
[05:20] <maxflax> Alakazamz0r, ok.. maybe not 30%.. but theres a big diffrence i tell u
[05:20] <Alakazamz0r> http://oldman.ixbt.com/sound/creative/CT-1750(ASP)-1759/CT-1750(ASP)-1759.gif
[05:20] <Hal_> Yes
[05:20] <Hal_> 1 sec
[05:20] <Alakazamz0r> maxflax, maybe in boot time.
[05:20] <Hal_> "ndns"
[05:20] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: Don't know. I thought it was the nvidia driver but someone told me the X server in Ubuntu is broken
[05:20] <sethk> maxflax, only if you had installed the wrong kernel
[05:20] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, are you in X right now?
[05:21] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: It could be hardware
[05:21] <sethk> Hal_, that's odd.  try commenting out that line, and putting in    hosts:  files dns
[05:21] <sethk> Hal_, I'll look up what ndns is supposed to mean.
[05:21] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: I'm not on my gaming box at the moment. It is running X but it locks up all the time
[05:21] <JonBoon> Alakazamz0r,  that didnt work
[05:21] <Alakazamz0r> JonBoon,
[05:21] <Hal_> The exact line is "hosts: files dns mdns"
[05:21] <Alakazamz0r> do this
[05:21] <pluto> Alakazamz0r: Yes, that looks right.
[05:21] <Hal_> OK
[05:21] <DigitalNinja> kitche: Old and working is better then new and broken.
[05:22] <sethk> Hal_, oh, that's ok then.  don't give me just s piece of the line.  :)
[05:22] <Alakazamz0r> chmod +xr RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[05:22] <Alakazamz0r> then sh RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[05:22] <Alakazamz0r> or
[05:22] <thor> JonBoon: you need to run it as root....'sudo ./RealPlayer10Gold.bin'
[05:22] <Alakazamz0r> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[05:22] <maxflax> thor, how do I get that to a text file.. and just not into the terminal window
[05:22] <Alakazamz0r> oh yeah, sudo
[05:22] <sethk> Hal_, is the problem that you can't resolve any names?
[05:23] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: Any ideas why X locks up
[05:23] <Alakazamz0r> Hal_, have you tried powercycling your modem?
[05:23] <JonBoon> it says the command is not found?
[05:23] <tgelter> hey guys - an easy question: where do I need to add a line to make ~/.Xmodmap be sourced as boot time? or where is .xinit located?
[05:23] <thor> maxflax: type 'dmesg >dmesg.txt' at the command prompt.
[05:23] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, whats the output of /var/log/X11/xorg.log
[05:23] <DigitalNinja> let me check
[05:23] <maxflax> sethk, all works.. even the soundcard.. didn't think the nv driver would work with the new kernel but they did :)
[05:23] <thor> maxflax: or 'cat /var/log/messages > messages.txt'
[05:23] <sethk> tgelter, you have to do it after X is started, not at boot time.
[05:23] <Alakazamz0r> why are you putting messages in a txt file.
[05:23] <Hal_> sethk: resolve any name? I can't connect to any websites, msn, aim etc won't work
[05:24] <sethk> maxflax, nv always works.  it's the nvidia driver that is kernel sensitive.
[05:24] <JonBoon> because i dont know what im doing
[05:24] <MrU_> Does anyone know a way to make xorg autodetect all of your display settings?
[05:24] <tgelter> sethk: and how would I do that? I just want .Xmodmap sourced
[05:24] <sethk> Hal_, did you try using the IP instead of the name in your web browser?
[05:24] <Hal_> sethk: it's basically 'AS IF' there is a firewall blocking almost everything. but firestarted (which i installed) is off.
[05:24] <sethk> tgelter, I think you want to do it in $HOME/.xinitrc
[05:24] <Hal_> Which IP?
[05:24] <maxflax> sethk, ok.. cool.. to bad the drivers kinda blows in grapichs thou.. I get much lag with themm
[05:24] <sethk> Hal_, try a traceroute
[05:25] <thor> JonBoon: then first type 'sudo chmod a+x RealPlayer10Gold.bin'
[05:25] <tgelter> sethk: and if that doesn't exist
[05:25] <sethk> Hal_, try   216.217.47.132
[05:25] <thor> JonBoon: make sure you are in the same directory as the RealPlayer binary
[05:25] <sethk> tgelter, create it.
[05:25] <kitche> Hal_: well firestarter isn't really the firewall it's iptables
[05:26] <tgelter> and then type "~/.Xmodmap" in it?
[05:26] <JonBoon> how do i change to my desktop?
[05:26] <sethk> Hal_, try ping 216.217.47.132
[05:26] <sethk> Hal_, resuming you can't, then try   traceroute 216.217.47.132
[05:26] <Gotti> hello all!
[05:26] <thor> JonBoon: probably Alt-F7
[05:26] <tgelter> sethk: sorry, I didn't use your nick when I asked that..."and then type "~/.Xmodmap" in it?"
[05:27] <Alakazamz0r> Hal_, do you have a cable modem and when was the last time  your powercycled it.
[05:27] <Hal_> Ok sethk: The ping worked. It worked in a browser and actually loaded a page. The traceroute did not.
[05:27] <sethk> tgelter, yes, that's what I'm thinking.  Let me check something quickly...
[05:28] <sethk> Hal_, so you can get to a site by ip
[05:28] <Hal_> It appears so.
[05:28] <Hal_> Wouldn't that make it a really small problem?
[05:28] <sethk> Hal_, traceroute may be blocked for security reasons, but it you can use http://ip then we don't need traceroute
[05:28] <dabaR> Hal_: ya, only about a few inches in all
[05:29] <sethk> Hal_, yes, because the problem is that you can use numbers, but not the name, which is why we were all thinking dns.  However, just to be sure, try http://www.cql.com
[05:29] <sethk> Hal_, that's the same site as the IP I gave you.
[05:29] <Hal_> OK.
[05:29] <Hal_> 1 sec.
[05:29] <sethk> Hal_, also try this:     host www.cql.com 216.217.47.170
[05:29] <pooru> anyone here is an intellimouse explorer?
[05:29] <pooru> err use* an intellimouse*
[05:29] <sethk> Hal_, that says send a dns request to 216.217.47.170.   tell me both results.
[05:29] <sethk> Hal_, if I'm not here I'll check back shortly.
[05:30] <Alakazamz0r> ATTACK!
[05:30] <Alakazamz0r> lol
[05:30] <Alakazamz0r> http://216.217.47.170/squirrelmail-1.4.5/src/login.php
[05:31] <Hal_> Traceroute came back with no reply 30 times. www.cql.com does not load.
[05:31] <Hal_> But the ip still does.
[05:31] <kitche> yea it's dns
[05:31] <Alakazamz0r> Hal_, its a dns issue.
[05:31] <Alakazamz0r> A. powercycle your modem.
[05:31] <Alakazamz0r> and router.
[05:32] <Alakazamz0r> come back
[05:32] <Alakazamz0r> if it doesn't work then
[05:32] <Alakazamz0r> i'll help you out.
[05:32] <kitche> Alakazamz0r does he have anything in his /etc/resolv.conf?
[05:32] <Alakazamz0r> yes
[05:32] <tmr_> I tried installing the NVIDIA drivers through synaptic, and now X just dies on start.
[05:32] <Alakazamz0r> hes gettin DNS from his router.
[05:32] <Hal_> kitche: Yes, but only the router nameserver
[05:32] <Alakazamz0r> i think his ISP had a netsplit.
[05:32] <dabaR> B?
[05:32] <Hal_> Whatever that means.
[05:32] <Hal_> lol
[05:32] <Alakazamz0r> hal
[05:32] <Hal_> Alright Alakazamz0r. I'll reboot/restart it.
[05:32] <Alakazamz0r> can you get here.
[05:33] <Alakazamz0r> http://mikeking.bounceme.net
[05:33] <kitche> Hal_: ah I usually have a few back ups but then again I don't really use my ISP DNS either
[05:33] <sethk> Hal_, rebooting won't help
[05:33] <Alakazamz0r> Ceiling Cat!
[05:33] <sethk> I guess I'll let you guys finish this up
[05:33] <Alakazamz0r> Hal...
[05:33] <Alakazamz0r> lol
[05:33] <Hal_> I didn't think so
[05:33] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: I looked at the X log file and couldn't find anything wrong. Not really sure what I'm looking for though
[05:33] <Hal_> Alakazamz0r...
[05:33] <Hal_> ?
[05:33] <Alakazamz0r> Seth has tried, he can continue trying
[05:33] <Alakazamz0r> or you can give this a go.
[05:33] <Alakazamz0r> its up to you
[05:33] <JonBoon> thanks, i figured it out!
[05:33] <tmr_> Says something like "NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI1:0:0) found"
[05:33] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, do this.
[05:34] <Hal_> lol
[05:34] <Alakazamz0r> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg
[05:34] <Alakazamz0r> oh
[05:34] <Alakazamz0r> lol
[05:34] <Alakazamz0r> woah ninja.
[05:34] <Alakazamz0r> hmm...
[05:34] <dabaR> Alakazamz0r: that hurt me, the free porn link there.
[05:34] <sethk> Hal_, let's not get Alakazamz0r all upset here.  Try working with him, and if you think I can help you afterwards, then put my nick in a line
[05:34] <Alakazamz0r> you just installed this card?
[05:34] <Alakazamz0r> lol dabaR thats what you get for being a pron freak.
[05:34] <Hal_> Ok sethk, thanks for the help.
[05:35] <eternalswd> I'm trying to burn a cd-r.  The disc is blank, but it is being mounted as an Audio CD and I cannot write to it, what can I do to fix this?
[05:35] <Alakazamz0r> im not upset, i just dont want to see the man run in circles sethk
[05:35] <Hal_> lol
[05:35] <Hal_> Do you know how hot it is today? You guys got me running back and forth lol
[05:35] <Hal_> Breaking a sweat
[05:35] <Alakazamz0r> right
[05:35] <Hal_> tsk tsk
[05:35] <Alakazamz0r> Ubuntu is a great distro Hal_
[05:35] <sethk> Hal_, np. rebooting the router can't hurd.
[05:35] <Alakazamz0r> i want to see you stick w/it.
[05:35] <tmr_> Can anyone tell me how to unbreak my xorg.conf?
[05:35] <Alakazamz0r> is it a dlink Hal_ ?
[05:35] <riddlebox> hello, is there a way to get around the nvidia drivers locking up my system
[05:35] <Hal_> Uhm...
[05:36] <Hal_> I think it is.
[05:36] <Hal_> Yes.
[05:36] <Alakazamz0r> yeah.
[05:36] <Alakazamz0r> thought so.
[05:36] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: what will that do for me
[05:36] <Hal_> Not a fan?
[05:36] <sethk> Hal_, anyway, I hope he gets you fixed.  If you need me later, use my name and my IRC thing will beep (at least supposedly)
[05:36] <Alakazamz0r> reconfigure your XServer
[05:36] <Alakazamz0r> choose nvidia in there.
[05:36] <Alakazamz0r> go through that, then try again.
[05:36] <Hal_> OK sethk.
[05:36] <Alakazamz0r> Hal_, dlink's are notorious for jackin uip
[05:36] <Alakazamz0r> i had one, and dont now.
[05:36] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: OK
[05:36] <Alakazamz0r> :)
[05:36] <Alakazamz0r> iptables is my router now.
[05:36] <Alakazamz0r> heh
[05:37] <eternalswd> tmr_, you might have a backup in the same directory, take a look there first
[05:37] <riddlebox> Alakazamz0r,  I checked in my xorg.conf file and nvidia was in there?
[05:37] <Alakazamz0r> riddlebox, i dont know was it?
[05:37] <dabaR> hehe, the question sentence
[05:37] <tmr_> Actually, nevermind.  Just needed to run nvidia-xconfig
[05:37] <tmr_> Thanks a lot, though
[05:37] <riddlebox> Alakazamz0r,  I checked in my xorg.conf file and nvidia was in there, what else should I do?
[05:37] <Alakazamz0r> lol@the question sentence
[05:37] <Alakazamz0r> riddlebox, did you dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:37] <Alakazamz0r> ?
[05:37] <eternalswd> how do I manually mount a blank cd-r?
[05:38] <Alakazamz0r> mount /mount/whateveryourcedromdriveiscalled
[05:38] <kitche> eternalswd: you don't mount a blank cd-r
[05:38] <riddlebox> Alakazamz0r,  yes
[05:38] <Hal_> brb reboot.
[05:38] <Alakazamz0r> ok hal
[05:38] <dabaR> kitche: would it not have a file system, so that is why you don't mount it?
[05:38] <Alakazamz0r> riddlebox, tail /var/log/X11/xorg.log
[05:38] <Alakazamz0r> oops
[05:38] <Alakazamz0r> ./var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:38] <Alakazamz0r> i need a cig...brb
[05:38] <eternalswd> kitche so if it's been auto-mounted if I unmount it will I be able to write to it?
[05:38] <wastrel> h8n
[05:39] <kitche> eternalswd: well if it got mounted there has to be soemthing on it
[05:39] <Frederick> folks how long until kernel 2.6.17 be avaliable in apt? I got a camera wich requires it :P
[05:39] <Shaezsche> how can i configure gnomenetworkmanager not to automatically try to connect me to wireless on boot?
[05:39] <Shaezsche> i installed the network manager from automatix
[05:40] <eternalswd> kitche, brand new blank disc, was auto mounted as an Audio CD
[05:40] <dthacker> How long after you upload your PGP key to the Ubuntu keyserver before it should let you query it?
[05:40] <dabaR> Frederick: it is available in edgy, which is still in testing. The release scheduled date is oct. 27, which some people said is 2 days from now.
[05:40] <tgelter> sethk: I'll be back in a minute, I need to restart x
[05:41] <Frederick> dabaR: thanks a lot :)
[05:41] <dabaR> Frederick: you are welcome.
[05:42] <Frederick> dabaR: I bought a camera wich requirs it :p
[05:42] <eternalswd> kitche, at least that's what Nautilus is telling me.  Although when I double-click it it says cdda:///dev/hda so maybe it's not mounted?  If not, how do I write to it.  Nautilus' CD/DVD writer keeps telling me to insert a Blank Disk
[05:42] <dabaR> ( | )
[05:42] <dabaR> which is my representation of where you can put the :p heh
[05:43] <dabaR> no offense, I just thought it would be funny
[05:43] <kitche> eternalswd: try a new disc might be one of those discs that has soemthing burned on it already
[05:43] <Frederick> ^^
[05:43] <tmr_> Got another question. I'm trying to install stuff with the Add/Remove thingy, and it keeps asking for a password.  It's not taking my root password.  What gives?
[05:44] <dabaR> tmr_: does it take your own password?
[05:44] <Alakazamz0r> ok
[05:45] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: I'm still having problems with the system. If I shake a window it turns to garbage
[05:45] <Shaezsche> is it possible to access other computers on my network that are running windows xp???
[05:45] <eternalswd> okay, it's working.  I'm guessing it was a corrupt one I forgot to throw away :p
[05:45] <tmr_> dabaR: It did.  That's weird.  Does ubuntu not need root to run dpkg?
[05:45] <dabaR> tmr_: read the text presented by following the link ubotu is about to write
[05:45] <dabaR> !sudo
[05:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:45] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, what dirvers did you install
[05:45] <Alakazamz0r> Shaezsche, yes.
[05:46] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: The nvidia ones. the module was glx
[05:46] <GottiX> ::sigh:: the neighbors wireless is soo slow
[05:46] <Shaezsche> alakazamz0r how?
[05:46] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: There were a lot of options. Not sure if I picked the right ones. Oh, I did tell it not to use frame buffer
[05:46] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, what video card do you have?
[05:47] <tgelter> what's the program to catch mouse events and tell me the button number used?
[05:47] <Shaezsche> also, can anyone recommend me some more sources to add to my repos?
[05:47] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: geforce nx7600
[05:48] <tmr_> dabaR: My background is more debian and gentoo.  Doesn't ubuntu need root to install stuff?  I don't know why my user password worked.
[05:48] <jrib> tgelter: xev
[05:48] <jrib> ubotu: tell Shaezsche about repos
[05:48] <Shaezsche> alakazamz0r how?
[05:48] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, did you install these? http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8776/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8776-pkg1.run
[05:48] <tgelter> jrib: thanks
[05:48] <dabaR> tmr_: did you read the rootsudo wiki page?
[05:48] <jazzrocker> hi, my system crashed yesterday (Ubuntu 6) where it just froze completely. i had to hard power down. mlnet was running and when i try starting mlnet i get the following error: "DNS resolution does not work! Looking up www.mldonkey.net failed with Not_found.The core therefore is unable to get eDonkey serverlists and loading .torrent files via dllink from websites is also impossible. If you are using MLDonkey in a chroot environment you should
[05:48] <jazzrocker> consider reading this article to get DNS support back: http://mldonkey.sourceforge.net/Chroot"
[05:48] <Sutur> .
[05:48] <jazzrocker> i'm not using a chroot'd environment, just a default Ubuntu install
[05:48] <Sutur> This is Hal_, Alakazamz0r, are you there?
[05:48] <jazzrocker> anyone know how to fix this?
[05:48] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: I tried the ubuntu packages and then I tried the one from nvidia. Currently running the one from nvidia
[05:49] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, did you install these? http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8776/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8776-pkg1.run
[05:49] <Alakazamz0r> hi hal
[05:49] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur,
[05:49] <jazzrocker> i moved my old .mldonkey folder to a backup and created a fresh one, bu doing so, the mlnet core actually starts but it still displays that error. i do have DNS, i can get google.com and irc and everything.
[05:49] <cpk2> [NP] Tangent: yes?
[05:49] <jazzrocker> i googled my error and the only three pages that come up are in german
[05:50] <jazzrocker> s/bu/by/g
[05:50] <Sutur> Alakazamz0r: Reboot didn't help, but maybe this will: I did some homework and found out that my ISP unlike others here in Australia don't have set DNS's but are "Server-assigned"
[05:50] <Sutur> Does that help at all?
[05:50] <[NP] Tangent> cpk2, I just saw your NP script in #amarok so I wanted to see if you used xchat or not. I would like such a script. But I'll just google it. :)
[05:50] <Alakazamz0r> well.. thats like most dns servers Sutur
[05:51] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: Yup! I installed that
[05:51] <Mukunda> Does anyone know when Edgy is scheduled for release?
[05:51] <jazzrocker> and also with a fresh folder everything i was downloading is lost
[05:51] <jazzrocker> and also with a fresh folder everything i was downloading is lost
[05:51] <jazzrocker> oh sh*t! sorry
[05:51] <Sutur> Alakazamz0r: I also tried some dns addresses of other who were having trouble with my isp and it didn't seem to help.
[05:51] <jazzrocker> i'm asking #mldonkey too but they're quiet
[05:51] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur,
[05:51] <Alakazamz0r> do this.
[05:51] <oblib> Can anyone tell me how to make my computer stop blanking the screen after a few minutes of idleness? Screensaver and Dpms are disabled
[05:51] <Alakazamz0r> put these numbers in your dns settings.
[05:51] <Alakazamz0r> on your router
[05:51] <Alakazamz0r> 216.88.76.6
[05:51] <Alakazamz0r> 216.88.77.7
[05:52] <Sutur> On my router. OK.
[05:52] <Shaezsche> how can i detect computers running windows!
[05:52] <Shaezsche> on my network
[05:52] <dabaR> !samba
[05:52] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:52] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, did you have any problems installing the driver?
[05:52] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: No
[05:53] <dabaR> Shaezsche: did you try just going to the places menu and connecting to the server. samba is actually not something you need.
[05:53] <pinky> So I just did a dist-upgrade to Edgy on my laptop and now X11 won't start... the fonts are messing up in the diagnostic output so I can't read the errors.
[05:53] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, have you read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[05:53] <cherubiel> pinky: logs at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:53] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: Yup! Followed that
[05:53] <Shaezsche> Couldn't display "smb:///mshome".
[05:53] <Shaezsche> is the msg i get
[05:54] <Shaezsche> it doesnt display computers on my netowrk
[05:54] <dabaR> Shaezsche: what is mshome? the workgroup?
[05:54] <Shaezsche> i think
[05:54] <dabaR> Shaezsche: that is not how it works.
[05:54] <Shaezsche> there should be more than one workgroup
[05:54] <wastrel> pinky:  you probably had binary graphic driver set up
[05:54] <Alakazamz0r> dark, whats in "tail -n 20  /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[05:54] <Shaezsche> it doesnt let me display the workgroup
[05:54] <wastrel> need generic one for X until you install the proper thingies
[05:54] <dabaR> the URLS are in the form of \\servername\sharename.
[05:54] <wastrel> anyway, edgy stuff on #ubuntu+1
[05:55] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: I'm going to install Debian stable and see if 3D works there
[05:55] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, bad idea
[05:55] <DigitalNinja> Why
[05:55] <Alakazamz0r> i had to hack to get my drivers to work for the i810
[05:55] <dabaR> Shaezsche: in fact, the connect to server dialog offers the option of windows share, and then you just enter the server name and then the share name
[05:55] <Shaezsche> how am i supposted to know the name of my network
[05:55] <Alakazamz0r> i'd sugguest mandriva
[05:55] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: This is not the i810
[05:55] <Alakazamz0r> or... pclinuxos
[05:55] <Alakazamz0r> ok DigitalNinja good luck.
[05:55] <Shaezsche> where do i find server and share name? in windows its automatically configured
[05:55] <marcrosoft> is it worth it to switch to the k7 arch.. over the gerneric i386?
[05:55] <Alakazamz0r> yes marcrosoft
[05:56] <Alakazamz0r> if you have a k7
[05:56] <pinky> xf86OpenSerial keeps complaining about not being able to open /dev/wacom
[05:56] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: If it isn't working on Ubuntu then the only other option is to try somethig else
[05:56] <dabaR> Shaezsche: one sec.
[05:56] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, you'd be jumping from the frying pan to the skillet.
[05:57] <Alakazamz0r> there IS a fix for this.
[05:57] <Alakazamz0r> you want me to SSH in and fix it?
[05:57] <marcrosoft> i heard the generic was just as good.. Alakazamz0r i do have k7 ... amd athlon XP
[05:57] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: How is that. I just install debian and install the nvidia driver. Just like in ubuntu
[05:57] <DigitalNinja> only with apt
[05:58] <Alakazamz0r> marcrosoft, my opinion is go with the K7
[05:58] <DigitalNinja> just like in ubuntu
[05:58] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, have you ever installed debian before?
[05:58] <DigitalNinja> yup
[05:58] <GottiX> Im having a problem with the repos...anyone care to help?
[05:58] <dabaR> Shaezsche: you need to know the computer names, and the shared folder names.
[05:58] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: Debian is the easy one. Slackware is the hard one.
[05:58] <Shaezsche> ok
[05:58] <atreyu> i'm trying to setup the .imwheelrc file, and i want to bind one of the buttons to a letter key, how is this done?
[05:58] <marcrosoft> Alakazamz0r, is it faster?
[05:58] <Shaezsche> does edgy have ntfs write turned ON by default?
[05:58] <Alakazamz0r> slackware is easy
[05:58] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: I was on slack for aobut a year
[05:58] <Alakazamz0r> gentoo is "hard"
[05:58] <dabaR> Shaezsche: each computer has a name, and that is shown in right click on my computer then properties, then computer name
[05:59] <atreyu> like "None, Up,h" does not set my button to type h
[05:59] <jazzrocker> gentoo is "crap"
[05:59] <Alakazamz0r> gentoo is time consuming
[05:59] <jazzrocker> ++
[05:59] <atreyu> is there a different synxtax i'm missing?
[05:59] <corevette> suse vs. ubuntu.....what are some pros and cons of BOTH
[05:59] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: gentoo just wants to be FreeBSD. Just get FreeBSD and skip gentoo
[06:00] <dcstimm> hey guys, why isnt fsck.hfs on the ubuntu livecd nor is it when you install hfsutils.. any idea?
[06:00] <Alakazamz0r> DigitalNinja, gentoo compiles everything
[06:00] <Alakazamz0r> and is EXTREMELY fast once you get it up
[06:00] <DigitalNinja> so does FreeBSD
[06:00] <Alakazamz0r> uuh no.
[06:00] <DigitalNinja> Yup!
[06:00] <DigitalNinja> You install from the ports tree
[06:00] <DigitalNinja> and build
[06:00] <dcstimm> Hey guys, what package is fsck.hfs part of?
[06:00] <Alakazamz0r> yea
[06:00] <Alakazamz0r> but its not default.
[06:01] <Vich> heya
[06:01] <Shaezsche> how do i edit gnome network manager's settings
[06:01] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: Oh, you don't build the base install. You only do that when you build world on an upgrade
[06:01] <Vich> I finally made some progress setting up my wireless
[06:01] <Shaezsche> it keeps trying to autoconnect me to wireless
[06:01] <Vich> following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176752
[06:01] <Alakazamz0r> aah DigitalNinja
[06:01] <dabaR> Shaezsche: the shared folder on a windows machine is represented in the windows explorer by a hand under the folder icon.
[06:01] <Alakazamz0r> i only use freebsd for hosting
[06:01] <Vich> but my net still doesn't appear to be working
[06:01] <Alakazamz0r> servers etc.
[06:01] <Shaezsche> NetworkManager Applet 0.6.3
[06:01] <DigitalNinja> Alakazamz0r: That works
[06:01] <dabaR> Shaezsche: if you right click on such a folder, and select properties, then go to the share tab, you will be presented with the share name of the folder.
[06:01] <Sutur> Alakazamz0r: Still here. No luck yet mate.
[06:02] <DigitalNinja> ok
[06:02] <DigitalNinja> time to burn a debain CD
[06:02] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur, did you put those numbers in your DNS settings on your router?
[06:02] <Sutur> Yes.
[06:02] <Alakazamz0r> good luck DigitalNinja
[06:02] <cherubiel> pinky: do you have any tablet inout devices?
[06:02] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur, ...
[06:02] <dabaR> Shaezsche: now, if you have more than one windows computer, and you obviously do, then you can use the network neighbioorhood to find out all this info as well.
[06:02] <cherubiel> pinky: wacom is such a driver
[06:02] <Alakazamz0r> can you get to google.com?
[06:02] <cherubiel> pinky: you don't seem to have one though
[06:02] <dcstimm> Hey guys, what package is fsck.hfs part of?
[06:02] <dcstimm> Hey guys, what package is fsck.hfs part of?
[06:02] <dcstimm> oops
[06:02] <Alakazamz0r> ITS PART OF FSCK!
[06:02] <DigitalNinja> alakazamz0r: Thanks! I'll need it. My Debain skills are rusty
[06:02] <Alakazamz0r> jesus
[06:03] <Mukunda> So there is no ETA for edgy?
[06:03] <Alakazamz0r> debin is cake man
[06:03] <dabaR> !find fsck.hfs
[06:03] <dcstimm> Alakazamz0r, no its not
[06:03] <Alakazamz0r> its ubuntu...
[06:03] <Sutur> Nope. I can only ping it from the console. I can't open it in a browser.
[06:03] <DigitalNinja> Mukunda: End of the month or soething
[06:03] <Alakazamz0r> well ubuntu is debian w/eyecandy
[06:03] <ubotu> Package/file fsck.hfs does not exist in dapper
[06:03] <dabaR> Mukunda: 27th I heard.
[06:03] <Shaezsche> can i retrieve files off of a ext3 partition from within windows?
[06:03] <Shaezsche> can ntfs read from ext3
[06:03] <dcstimm> Alakazamz0r, fsck           fsck.cramfs    fsck.ext2      fsck.ext3      fsck.minix     fsck.msdos     fsck.nfs       fsck.reiserfs  fsck.vfat
[06:03] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur, you can ping it from the console?
[06:03] <Shaezsche> i mean winxp
[06:03] <Sutur> Yes.
[06:03] <Sutur> Somehow.
[06:03] <jrib> !ext3 | Shaezsche
[06:03] <ubotu> Shaezsche: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[06:03] <DigitalNinja> Mukuna: I just sucked it down
[06:03] <Alakazamz0r> hfs is a filesystem type
[06:03] <Alakazamz0r> just like msdos
[06:03] <Alakazamz0r> or minix
[06:03] <Alakazamz0r> or ext2
[06:03] <Shaezsche> is it safe?
[06:03] <Sutur> That's why this is so irritating, it doesn't make sense.
[06:04] <Shaezsche> because WRITING to ntfs is NOT safe
[06:04] <jrib> Shaezsche: works fine for me
[06:04] <DigitalNinja> Mukuna: I may install it this week
[06:04] <Mukunda> Gah, everyone knows it's out of the 26th (Europe), but there is no news on the hour it's out?
[06:04] <dcstimm> Hey guys, what package is fsck.hfs part of?
[06:04] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur, have you tried another browser?
[06:04] <Shaezsche> jrib what works fine?
[06:04] <Shaezsche> isnt that for ext2
[06:04] <Sutur> I doubt it's a problem with the brower Alakazamz0r.
[06:04] <DigitalNinja> Mukunda: Just suck it down now, do the install and update on the 27th
[06:04] <Alakazamz0r> dcstimm, are you trying to be annoying?
[06:04] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur, probably so.
[06:04] <dabaR> dcstimm: you saw what ubotu thought about that file name.
[06:04] <dcstimm> Alakazamz0r, your wrong
[06:04] <Alakazamz0r> im just wondering why.
[06:05] <Alakazamz0r> dcstimm, im right.
[06:05] <jrib> Shaezsche: fs-driver works (well worked at least when I was using it) fine.  It will write to your ext3 partitions as well
[06:05] <dabaR> 23:13 < ubotu> Package/file fsck.hfs does not exist in dapper
[06:05] <Alakazamz0r> dcstimm, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Add_Apple%27s_hfs_hfsplus_Utilities
[06:05] <Shaezsche> jrib i doubt that its safe
[06:05] <Alakazamz0r> its part of fsck for apple.
[06:05] <Shaezsche> jrib i doubt it is safe
[06:05] <jrib> Shaezsche: why... ext3 is completely open unlike ntfs
[06:05] <GottiX> deb http://core.fluxbox.org/~dopey/ unstable main <--supposedly this has the latest release of fluxbox in it, yet it is listed as "IGN" when i "apt-get" update ... any reason for this? I'm trying to upgrade to the latest realse through apt-get.
[06:05] <Shaezsche> i cannot risk losing my windows drie
[06:05] <Alakazamz0r> HFS+, HFS Plus, or Mac OS Extended are names for a file system developed by Apple Computer to replace their Hierarchical File System (HFS).
[06:05] <dcstimm> dabaR, why not?
[06:06] <Shaezsche> jrib is it SAFE for me to log into windows and copy files from ext3 to ntfs
[06:06] <jrib> Shaezsche: yes
[06:06] <dabaR> dcstimm: I do not know, but that is the syntax to search for a file. /msg ubotu find <fileName>
[06:06] <dabaR> dcstimm: as well, you can use apt-file for such a task.
[06:06] <jrib> Shaezsche: well I don't know how safe it is to log into windows but the rest should be ok ;)
[06:06] <Sutur> Alakazamz0r: In the DNS settings, am I supposed to be configuring DNS Relay?
[06:06] <Shaezsche> jrib do you believe it is safe to write from ext3 to ntfs within ubuntu?
[06:07] <dcstimm> dabaR, but I searched with apt-cache search hfs, and non had fsck.hfs
[06:07] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur,
[06:07] <Alakazamz0r> paste the results of
[06:07] <Alakazamz0r> "cat /etc/resolv.conf" into a pastebin for me.
[06:07] <jrib> Shaezsche: I don't know enough about that, I personally wouldn't use it
[06:07] <dabaR> dcstimm: why the but, I told you the same thing
[06:07] <GottiX> anyone?
[06:07] <pinky> Is there a command line utility to read ODT files?
[06:08] <Sutur> "nameserver 10.1.1.1"
[06:08] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur, do you know how to work your router?
[06:08] <corevette> what advantages does suse have over ubuntu
[06:08] <Alakazamz0r> corevette, none.
[06:08] <dabaR> GottiX: Im off, later guys.
[06:08] <jrib> corevette: ask #suse?
[06:09] <dabaR> corevette: keep in mind you are in #ubuntu:)
[06:09] <Sutur> Alakazamz0r: Sadly much of the terminology is guesswork, but I have an understanding. Why?
[06:09] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur, do this...
[06:09] <cps> pinky: you can unzip them and have a look inside
[06:09] <Alakazamz0r> http://10.0.0.1:8080
[06:09] <Alakazamz0r> click that.
[06:10] <Sutur> Are you trying to make me enter the router configuration page?
[06:10] <Alakazamz0r> yes
[06:10] <Sutur> That is where I am changing the settings.
[06:10] <Alakazamz0r> thats where you've been changing the settings?
[06:10] <Sutur> I'm making changes in right place my friend, they just aren't working :(
[06:10] <Alakazamz0r> pppoe = garbage
[06:10] <Alakazamz0r> :P
[06:10] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur, WHERE are you making changes.
[06:11] <Alakazamz0r> in the router
[06:11] <Alakazamz0r> or on your computer?
[06:11] <graveson> i have an intermittent keyboard problem and have no idea where i can start troubleshooting this - with caps lock off ,my keyboard suddenly types in caps lock - it almost as if all the (shift functions) on the keyboard is inverted ?
[06:11] <iammisc> where is the open source radeon driver's homepage?
[06:11] <Sutur> I'm using the wireless to make changes on MY computer to the router. I can't access the router any other way other than by wireless.
[06:11] <Alakazamz0r> iammisc, ubuntu has an ATI driver.
[06:12] <Sutur> I assure you that I am definately changing settings for the router.
[06:12] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur, you're not supposed to be touching the router.
[06:12] <Agux> Hello, Im a newbie, so sorry if its a stupid question. I was trying to install ubuntu, i have an 80gb disk partitioned into drives C and D, i was trying to create a new partition with the free space i had on drive D, whithout formatting anything, after going back and forward in the visual installation wizard i've realized my entire D drive is now an UNKNOWN drive, then i've decided to...
[06:12] <Agux> ...restart on windows, and i had a shock when i saw there is no D drive now in my explorer, if i've never formatted anything, it's possible to recover my D drive?
[06:12] <Alakazamz0r> you're supposed to be making configuration changes on your computer.
[06:12] <Sutur> Alakazamz0r: I'm not.
[06:12] <Sutur> I am
[06:12] <Alakazamz0r> router or computer
[06:12] <Alakazamz0r> which one.
[06:12] <Sutur> OK lol this is getting confusing let me clear this up:
[06:12] <Alakazamz0r> ok
[06:12] <iammisc> i know i just want to see the status of how far 3d accel is on the igp 340m chipset
[06:13] <Sutur> The modem and wireless router are in another room. I am using the wireless connection to make changes to the way the router works through it's web-page interface.
[06:14] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur, you're not even supposed to be making changes on your router.
[06:14] <Alakazamz0r> DO NOT go back to that config. page :)
[06:14] <Alakazamz0r> ok?
[06:14] <Sutur> Well, OK.
[06:14] <Alakazamz0r> at the top of your screen, you'll see "System", do you see it?
[06:14] <Sutur> No, because this is my windows machine.
[06:15] <Alakazamz0r> lord.
[06:15] <Sutur> The linux machine is in the other room.
[06:15] <Alakazamz0r> lol
[06:15] <Sutur> It's internet connection is broken because of a dns problem I'm trying to fix.
[06:15] <Alakazamz0r> ok
[06:15] <Alakazamz0r> listen
[06:15] <wastrel> what's wrong with configuring the router?
[06:15] <Alakazamz0r> start>cmd
[06:15] <Sutur> Hence the wait every time I have to get information for you.
[06:15] <Alakazamz0r> start>run
[06:15] <Alakazamz0r> type CMD
[06:15] <Alakazamz0r> enter
[06:15] <Alakazamz0r> ipconfig /all
[06:15] <Alakazamz0r> what are your DNS servers set as?
[06:16] <Sutur> 10.1.1.1
[06:16] <Sutur> That's all.
[06:16] <Alakazamz0r> hmm
[06:16] <Alakazamz0r> ok
[06:16] <wastrel> see the router is giving dhcp and is handling the dns
[06:16] <Sutur> Same as the DHCP server and default gateway, 10.1.1.1
[06:16] <Alakazamz0r> go back into the other room and install lynx.
[06:16] <maxflax> im having trouble with the nvidia driver install. get some lame error about the kernel not macthing the drivers .. bla bla or something. then the installer ask me if I want the installer to try find them on the nviida homepage
[06:16] <wastrel> so the router has the isp's dns servers in its configgy thing.
[06:16] <Alakazamz0r> its a command line web browser
[06:16] <Alakazamz0r> then try to lynx google.com
[06:16] <Sutur> Yes I know of it.
[06:16] <Alakazamz0r> ok
[06:16] <Sutur> OK.
[06:16] <Alakazamz0r> brb
[06:16] <lasindi> Hi everyone, is there an easy way (i.e. using apt-get/dpkg) to install Firefox 2 on Ubuntu Dapper?
[06:17] <Alakazamz0r> im gonna drop to CLI
[06:17] <wastrel> and tell linux to talk to the router for dns
[06:17] <wastrel> no fuss no bother
[06:17] <wastrel> <3 router
[06:17] <pinky> So I unzipped an ODT file, but I can't tell where the actual document text is in any of the files... I check them all with vi (I think)
[06:17] <cps> pinky: content.xml
[06:17] <wastrel> mmm
[06:18] <Alakazamz0r> ok
[06:19] <pinky> cps" That file is 10KiB, but when I open it in vi it's gibberish.
[06:20] <cps> gibberish in what way?
[06:20] <Alakazamz0r> i love CLI
[06:20] <Alakazamz0r> i think... im not going to use X for... lent.
[06:20] <Alakazamz0r> hah!
[06:20] <wastrel> you can use CLI in X
[06:21] <Alakazamz0r> wastrel i know... i just dont like the way it looks.
[06:21] <Alakazamz0r> nofb!
[06:21] <Alakazamz0r> :D
[06:22] <Sutur> Alakazamz0r: Lynx installed. Fails to look up google.com.
[06:22] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur ... wow.
[06:22] <Alakazamz0r> thats a mindboggler.
[06:22] <jrib> Sutur: do other sites work?
[06:22] <wastrel> Sutur:  what's in /etc/resolv.conf  ?
[06:23] <Alakazamz0r> his router is in resolv.conf
[06:23] <wastrel> yay
[06:23] <Sutur> *cries*
[06:23] <jrib> lynx had a bug with some sites (including google.com) so be sure to check another site
[06:23] <Alakazamz0r> jrib my lynx works w/google.
[06:23] <ThinkingMan> So I live in an apartment complex and in certain parts of my place my neighbor's wifi signal is stronger than mine so network manager tries to connect to that, is there a way to set up an exclude list for wireless networks?
[06:24] <Alakazamz0r> brb
[06:24] <jrib> Alakazamz0r: I didn't claim the bug affected everyone :)  It had to do with the size of /etc/mailcap.  It may even be fixed now
[06:24] <Sutur> The things we take for granted in Windows...
[06:24] <wastrel> Sutur:  you can't resolve names at all in linux?
[06:25] <Sutur> No.
[06:25] <Sutur> Just IP addresses.
[06:25] <wastrel> Sutur:  why don't you install openssh-server on your linux and ssh in from windows
[06:25] <Sutur> DNS is busted I hear.
[06:25] <wastrel> so you don't have to keep running back & forth
[06:25] <mick_> i am having trouble with mysql and getting it set up so that i can use myth tv, can anyone help? i get this error: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[06:25] <rbil> Sutur, why don't u just drop a known nameserver address in resolv.conf?
[06:25] <ThinkingMan> mick_: did you grant access to mythtv@localhost?
[06:25] <Sutur> Because wastrel, I have far greater problems than having to run from one room to another.
[06:25] <Alakazamz0r> rbil, ive been trying to get him to do that.
[06:26] <wastrel> Sutur:  :]   can you ping out to the internet from the linux box?
[06:26] <Sutur> It won't work.
[06:26] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur, type this.
[06:26] <mick_> ThinkingMan, i THOUGHT i did, but it isn't really working so much
[06:26] <Sutur> Yes, only IP addresses and a handfull of websites.
[06:26] <Alakazamz0r> echo 216.88.76.6 > /etc/resolv.conf
[06:26] <rbil> just drop this one in ...
[06:26] <mick_> is there some sort of graphical ui like enterprise manager or anything?
[06:26] <wastrel> Alakazamz0r:  that's malformed and will clobber the existing resolv.conf, and needs sudo
[06:26] <Alakazamz0r> wait
[06:26] <Alakazamz0r> dont do that.
[06:26] <Alakazamz0r> yeah
[06:27] <rbil> nameserver 64.59.160.13
[06:27] <wastrel> Sutur:  fire up your router's web interface, find out what nameservers it's using, and stick those in your /etc/resolv.conf
[06:27] <ThinkingMan> mick_: open a terminal and type "mysql -u mythtv -p"
[06:27] <ThinkingMan> and when it prompts type in your password
[06:27] <Sutur> OK.
[06:27] <Alakazamz0r> echo nameserver 216.88.76.6 > /etc/resolv.conf
[06:27] <Alakazamz0r> sudo su -
[06:27] <Alakazamz0r> 1st
[06:27] <jsjc> hi friends
[06:27] <mick_> ThinkingMan, same error
[06:27] <rbil> Alak... >>
[06:27] <Alakazamz0r> hi jsjc
[06:27] <rbil> not a single >
[06:28] <ThinkingMan> well then either you're using the wrong password or you didn't grant correctly
[06:28] <jsjc> after been a lon time without computer I am back!
[06:28] <rbil> or you'll overwrite the whole file
[06:28] <mick_> http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/mysql/
[06:28] <Alakazamz0r> root@malakai:~# echo nameserver 216.88.76.6 > /etc/resolv.conf
[06:28] <Alakazamz0r> root@malakai:~# cat /etc/resolv.conf
[06:28] <Alakazamz0r> nameserver 216.88.76.6
[06:28] <Alakazamz0r> just for testing purposes
[06:28] <mick_> that is the guide i used to grant permissions
[06:28] <Alakazamz0r> he can get it back by hitting dhclient
[06:28] <ThinkingMan> mick_: how did you grant access for the user?
[06:28] <jsjc> I heard there is an Ubuntu DVD??? anyone can point me in the right direction? thanks
[06:29] <Sutur> jsjc: http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/dapper/release.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-amd64.iso
[06:29] <Sutur> lol
[06:29] <bec> cfg
[06:29] <jsjc> Sutur anywhere I can read about the contents and what a bout if I dont have amd?
[06:29] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur, did you type that and is it working now?
[06:29] <dabaR_> Sutur: still no dns?
[06:30] <Alakazamz0r> and wastrel thanks for that >> tip
[06:30] <Alakazamz0r> i didnt know that.
[06:30] <ThinkingMan> mick_: nevermind, that, just log into mysql with your default/root/admin account
[06:30] <ThinkingMan> let me know when you're there
[06:30] <bec> wtf..
[06:30] <Sutur> Alakazamz0r: Which of the 4-5 commands did you want me to take a shot at?
[06:30] <mick_> ThinkingMan, ok
[06:30] <Alakazamz0r> root@malakai:~# echo nameserver 216.88.76.6 >> /etc/resolv.conf
[06:30] <Alakazamz0r> minus my info
[06:30] <Sutur> ok hang on.
[06:30] <Alakazamz0r> make sure to
[06:31] <Alakazamz0r> sudo su -
[06:31] <Alakazamz0r> 1st
[06:31] <Sutur> yes.
[06:31] <cafuego> 'sudo -i' (spawns one less shell)
[06:31] <ThinkingMan> mick_: mick_ select user, host from mysql.user where user like '%ytht%';
[06:31] <Alakazamz0r> cool cafuego
[06:31] <Alakazamz0r> ty
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[06:32] <mick_> ThinkingMan, mythtv @ % and mythtv@localhost
[06:32] <Sutur> Alakazamz0r: OK I did it. That's a fancy command, you could have just asked me to edit the file ;-)
[06:33] <ThinkingMan> OK, so the accounts are there, did you flush privileges?
[06:33] <Alakazamz0r> Sutur, its fool proof
[06:33] <Alakazamz0r> :)
[06:33] <mick_> ThinkingMan,  not that i know of
[06:33] <Alakazamz0r> not calling you a fool... but you know what i mean.
[06:33] <ThinkingMan> aaahhh...
[06:33] <Sutur> Thanks I'm flatter you think so highly of me :-)
[06:33] <Sutur> Yes lol
[06:33] <Alakazamz0r> LOL
[06:33] <Alakazamz0r> :)
[06:33] <ThinkingMan> type "flush privileges;" at the mysql prompt
[06:33] <Alakazamz0r> can you get anything now
[06:33] <Alakazamz0r> can you ping that IP i gave you?
[06:33] <asdf_> anyone have any idea when or if Firefox 2.0 will be pushed to Dapper?
[06:33] <ThinkingMan> then log out and try and log in as mythtv
[06:33] <Sutur> The one I added to /etc/resolv.conf?
[06:33] <cafuego> asdf_: unlikely, maybe in backports
[06:33] <Alakazamz0r> yes
[06:34] <Alakazamz0r> can you browse now?
[06:34] <rbil> Suture, just ping google.com
[06:34] <asdf_> cafuego: so should i do a manual install?
[06:34] <Sutur> Yes yes I'll try it all now. Hang on.
[06:34] <cafuego> asdf_: If you ask me you shouldn't bother, but that's just me.
[06:34] <asdf_> cafuego: why's that?
[06:34] <mick_> ThinkingMan, still denied
[06:34] <ThinkingMan> hrm...
[06:35] <cafuego> asdf_: 2.0 as far as I can tell doesn't do anything 1.x doesn't do (with optional extensions)
[06:35] <kzv> !edgy
[06:35] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:35] <Alakazamz0r> im going to sleep
[06:35] <cafuego> asdf_: .. and some extensions will probably break.
[06:35] <ThinkingMan> maybe you had a type while typing the password, log back into mysql as your admin user
[06:35] <Alakazamz0r> can someone please help Sutur, he's been extremely patient.
[06:35] <kzv> !schedule
[06:35] <ThinkingMan> mick_: s/type/typo
[06:35] <Alakazamz0r> !schedule
[06:35] <Sutur> Thanks.
[06:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:35] <mick_> ThinkingMan,  logged in
[06:35] <emmanuel_> bad dvd resolution what can I do?
[06:35] <Vaske_Car> Edgy Eft tomorrow?
[06:36] <Vaske_Car> final
[06:36] <Vaske_Car> ?
[06:36] <Alakazamz0r> yep
[06:36] <kzv> Here it's the 25th now
[06:36] <Alakazamz0r> just about.
[06:37] <Noah0504> What's a better but still simple BitTorrent client for Ubuntu?
[06:37] <Vaske_Car> hey guys enybody familiar with Samba here?
[06:37] <Sutur> Alakazamz0r: just before you go, it does the same thing as before with your DNS server, it's just slower.
[06:37] <Sutur> Still no browsing.
[06:37] <ThinkingMan> mick_: hang on a second, retard roommate in trouble
[06:37] <Alakazamz0r> hmm
[06:38] <mick_> ThinkingMan,  no worries
[06:38] <Alakazamz0r> i duno Sutur maybe your tcp/ip stack is busted.
[06:38] <Alakazamz0r> i duno man.
[06:38] <Sutur> That's OK.
[06:38] <azureal> hi, i have ubuntu 2.6.15 server edition, and I can't get my wireless to work...  first of all installing ieee80211-source does not produce anything in /usr/lib/firmware  so i'm confused =/
[06:38] <Sutur> I'll try again later.
[06:38] <Alakazamz0r> ok Sutur someone else may be able to help you
[06:39] <Alakazamz0r> have you checked ubuntuforums.com?
[06:39] <ThinkingMan> mick_: OK, update mysql.user set password = PASSWORD('mynewpass') where user = "mythtv";
[06:39] <Sutur> I can try but since the nature of the problem is a mystery, I doubt I'd get anywhere. I'm going to keep playing with the things we've been working with.
[06:40] <Sutur> Might have been close, never know.
[06:40] <jsjc> is there a new version of ubuntu comming soon?
[06:41] <GottiX> jsjc, Edgy was just released...that should be it for another 6 months...
[06:41] <jsjc> edgy?
[06:41] <jsjc> where can I find isos for that_
[06:41] <mick_> ThinkingMan,  that said it changed a row, but i flushed again and still no access
[06:41] <GottiX> I believe from the main page...
[06:42] <GottiX> theres also a link in the forum...
[06:42] <wastrel> edgy isn't released yet afaik
[06:42] <ThinkingMan> mick_: you did a flush_privileges?
[06:42] <azureal> when i try to make ieee80211, i get "/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-server/build: No such file or directory.  Stop."  anyone have exp w/ this?
[06:42] <jsjc> wastrel that is what I thought
[06:42] <mick_> ThinkingMan, this is making me feel dumb... i use a sql database everyday at work :P
[06:42] <wastrel> soon tho
[06:42] <Vaske_Car> what is new in Edgy? Any comparation chart?
[06:42] <mick_> ThinkingMan, flush privileges
[06:42] <GottiX> wastrel, are you sure? I know i saw a release announcment on the forums a few days ago
[06:43] <ThinkingMan> mick_: grant usage on (yourmythtvdb) to 'mythtv'@'localhost'; flush privileges;
[06:43] <GottiX> unless it was a fluke and im still running beta. lol they provided ISO downloads and all
[06:43] <_azrael>  Topic for #ubuntu+1: Welcome to #ubuntu+1! | Edgy Eft will be released on Oct. 26 - until then it should not be considered stable
[06:43] <wastrel> GottiX:  not yet,  sez oct 26
[06:43] <wastrel> on #ubuntu+1  topic :] 
[06:43] <wastrel> ah yes
[06:43] <rbil> What's the rush to a new release when Dapper is working so fine?
[06:43] <jsjc> oooo that is tomorrowww
[06:43] <GottiX> hmmm...thats different...
[06:43] <jsjc> and my day of is today!
[06:44] <GottiX> i wonder why i saw a release announcment...
[06:44] <ThinkingMan> mick_: What sql db you use at work?
[06:44] <jsjc> ooo :( that is sad I will be another full week without ubuntu
[06:44] <mick_> ThinkingMan, microsoft
[06:44] <GottiX> i have an edgy iso..burned and im running it...no mention of "beta" anywhere...
[06:44] <ThinkingMan> mick_: sorry to hear that
[06:44] <ThinkingMan> anyway, how'd the grant usage/flush privs work?
[06:45] <rbil> GottiX and what are the advantages besides new wallpaper?
[06:45] <mick_> ThinkingMan, lol... i am getting an error on the first half
[06:45] <kzv> Gottix I'm thinking you have the RC
[06:45] <ThinkingMan> mick, what error?
[06:45] <mick_> grant usage on (yourmythtvdb) to 'mythtv'@'localhost'; flush privileges;
[06:45] <mick_> oops
[06:45] <mick_>  You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '(mythtv) to 'mythtv'@'localhost'' at line 1
[06:46] <ThinkingMan> sorry, no parens
[06:46] <GottiX> rbil, to be honest...none that are immediately noticable...then again i switched to fluxbox right after i installed whatever version of edgy i have...
[06:46] <ThinkingMan> and it'll probably want a table or two, so "grant usage on mythtv.* to 'mythtv'@'localhost';
[06:46] <dabaR_> Vaske_Car: yeah, edgyreleasenotes on the wiki in camel case
[06:46] <ThinkingMan> then flush privileges;
[06:47] <GottiX> but it seems to be relatively the same...
[06:47] <rbil> GottiX, to me ....  Linux is Linux. As long it is stable I'm in no rush to upgrade.
[06:47] <GottiX> keep in mind there were only four months inbetween dapper and edgy
[06:47] <mick_> 0 rows affected?
[06:47] <dabaR_> rbil: weird pooint of view, to me, linux is windows.
[06:47] <GottiX> rbil, im with you there.
[06:47] <ThinkingMan> mick_: that's fine, flush privs and try to log in again
[06:47] <mick_> ok
[06:47] <GottiX> dabaR_, thats weirder that rbils...
[06:47] <GottiX> lol
[06:48] <azureal> lol.... ubuntu server does not come w/ linux-headers !?
[06:48] <rbil> I'm still running Mandrake 10.1 on one of my boxes, server actually, and it never misses a beat. See no need to upgrade.
[06:48] <lotusleaf> Halloween is almost upon us, and you know that that means: clean out your closet of those spare Ubuntu Ship-It CDs you may have, duct tape a Snickers bar to them if you have to, just give them out!!
[06:48] <mick_> hooray, thank you very much!
[06:48] <azureal> lol @ lotusleaf
[06:48] <GottiX> i have so many of those things lol
[06:48] <dabaR_> azureal: there is no need for most users to compile anything on an ubuntu server is what that says
[06:48] <GottiX> i actually just put them in everyones mailboxes...
[06:48] <GottiX> illegal...i know...
[06:48] <GottiX> but hell
[06:49] <GottiX> it works.
[06:49] <ThinkingMan> mick_: enjoy
[06:49] <ThinkingMan> :)
[06:49] <Cuboid> Hi
[06:49] <azureal> dabaR, i try to make things minimal by installing ubuntu server to avoid gnome/kde/xfce but it's not easy =/
[06:49] <GottiX> azureal, grab a fluxbuntu iso
[06:49] <dabaR_> ya, I find that not easy either
[06:49] <dabaR_> too i guess
[06:49] <GottiX> thats as minimal as your gonnah get
[06:49] <azureal> GottiX, that stuff is outdated, buggy, etc blah
[06:49] <Cuboid> Can someone help me with upgrading GTK?
[06:50] <rbil> 80% of the cool stuff about Linux is in the CLI, and I don't think that's going to change.
[06:50] <joincamp> i have an nforce2 board with soundstorm.  im using nvidia drivers so i can do proper 5.1, but it appears to be only OSS compatible.  is there a way to make firefox use OSS or make the soundstorm driver output ALSA?
[06:50] <GottiX> why would you say that? i find no issues with it
[06:50] <Vaske_Car> dabaR_, check PM
[06:50] <ThinkingMan> So um... anyone know how to exclude a wifi SSID?
[06:50] <dabaR_> Cuboid: if by helping with installing gtk you mean getting you a glass of water, no I cant. ask the quewstion
[06:50] <dabaR_> Vaske_Car: I am dabaR_
[06:50] <GottiX> rbil, no doubt. which is my desktop has no icons...jsut a transparent terminal...its basically a CLI with a picture behind it...the FB menu is just a plux for me
[06:50] <azureal> it's finally making!!
[06:51] <Cuboid> Can somebody tell me how to upgrade GTK?
[06:51] <dabaR_> Vaske_Car: and unregged.
[06:51] <GottiX> well im gonnah go work on some homework...class in....8 hours! i'll be back on soon!
[06:52] <dabaR_> Vaske_Car: that means I can not reply, but ya, I talked to you before
[06:52] <ThinkingMan> anyone?
[06:52] <jsjc> anyone is able to tell me the different between the DVD and the CD of ubuntu what is included in the DVD that is no in the CD?
[06:52] <Vaske_Car> ok
[06:52] <Vaske_Car> :)
[06:52] <dabaR_> good to see ya
[06:53] <Vaske_Car> good to see ya too
[06:53] <Vaske_Car> im back to ubuntu btw
[06:53] <sexserver> hi everybody
[06:54] <iter> serversecks
[06:54] <leftjustified> hi, can anyone suggest somewhere I can get more detailed (ie: better) syntax highlighting setup for gEdit?
[06:54] <joincamp> i have an nforce2 board with soundstorm.  im using nvidia drivers so i can do proper 5.1, but it appears to be only OSS compatible.  is there a way to make firefox use OSS or make the soundstorm driver output ALSA?
[06:54] <dabaR_> sexserver: I would like some served right here
[06:54] <skullripper> hi all
[06:54] <tritium> dabaR_: cut it out
[06:55] <ThinkingMan> let's try something different
[06:55] <dabaR_> leftjustified: oh, the "better" syntax highlighting, right.
[06:55] <skullripper> i'm having a problem with some fonts in some programs
[06:55] <ThinkingMan> what does everyone use to manage their wifi in ubuntu?
[06:55] <pixelPOET> ThinkingMan, iwconfig ;)
[06:55] <azureal> brb
[06:56] <skullripper> i'm having a problem with some fonts in some programs
[06:56] <skullripper> i'm having a problem with some fonts in some programs
[06:56] <jbroome> and problems with your KB
[06:56] <leftjustified> dabaR_: sorry for not being very concise -- what I mean is more detailed than just being able to select the colour for the first <?php tag and other such things... actually, can anyone recommend a scintilla based editor packaged for ubuntu using gnome front end?
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> skullripper: Flash kinds of programs perhaps?
[06:56] <ThinkingMan> pixelPOET: have you been successful getting that to work with WPA?
[06:56] <sexserver> hey can someone help me with this??  i've installed dapper toan old ibm thinkpad 390e, and everything is running well in exception of the audio card... i've tryed breezy and it did make the audio card work, but then i loose ethernet contection...  so i was ondering... is it possible to install breezy drivers to a dapper??
[06:56] <dabaR_> leftjustified: there is a bluefish editor that people like
[06:56] <skullripper> i noticed this with two programs
[06:57] <skullripper> Xmms and Xtraceroute
[06:57] <leftjustified> dabaR_: tried it -- too cludgy :) I prefer my editor to be as light as possible, not for it to want to be dreamweaver's little brother ;)
[06:57] <pixelPOET> ThinkingMan, bah WPA and WEP have always been a pain in the ass...i gave a up on them totally
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> sexserver: You might want to take a look at the LaptopTesting pages on the wiki to see if anyone has some notes about that particular model.
[06:57] <skullripper> when i try to see the menu of XMMS
[06:57] <ThinkingMan> pixelPOET: so you're running open wifi?
[06:57] <skullripper> i see nothing
[06:58] <skullripper> the name of the songs are perfectly written
[06:58] <barnetod> hey guys what would be better for someone just getting into ubuntu, ubuntu or kubuntu? i am curious
[06:58] <skullripper> but they menu is invisible
[06:58] <tritium> barnetod: it's all preference.  Either one is great.
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> skullripper: Hmm, well,  take a look at !fonts but I don't know if it's related to your problem.
[06:58] <barnetod> whats the main diff tri
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> barnetod: Totally personal preference.  Try both.
[06:59] <tritium> barnetod: gnome or kde as the desktop env.
[06:59] <barnetod> i know it may be a beaten question just not really reading anything to different
[06:59] <dabaR_> barnetod: the wwhole desktop experience, the best is to try both
[06:59] <azureal> yay, got wireless to work  =)
[06:59] <sexserver> tonyyarusso, where is that??  i've trying for a little bit more than 3 months and noyhing...
[06:59] <azureal> it works even better than on xp partition =0
[06:59] <Vaske_Car> dabaR_, are you using Edgy?
[06:59] <skullripper> tonyyarusso, i guess is ok because every things work perfectly
[06:59] <dabaR_> no
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> sexserver: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[06:59] <pixelPOET> ThinkingMan, Yes...i have no problems with that...
[06:59] <Vaske_Car> wondering is it wort upgrading?
[07:00] <Vaske_Car> worth*
[07:00] <ThinkingMan> OK, well I do, so I need WPA'
[07:00] <pixelPOET> have fun...i tried everything...
[07:00] <barnetod> tony can anyone test those?
[07:00] <mnepton> ThinkingMan: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[07:00] <pixelPOET> then again that WAS back in hoary
[07:00] <barnetod> i have a laptop not listed as tested
[07:00] <pixelPOET> they may have improved things in that area
[07:00] <anilomkar> I applied a theme to desktop, but the theme is not visible for some windows help me?
[07:00] <whyameye> I have a 2 CPU system but my understanding is that ubuntu out of the box only supports 1 CPU? How can I change this?
[07:00] <barnetod> and am tired of redhat and xp
[07:01] <pixelPOET> anilomkar, a little more info would help
[07:01] <bay-bee> whyameye: install a SMP capable kernel
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> barnetod: Yeah, just add it under "community tested", and try not to duplicate a model - collaborate if you have the same as someone else.
[07:01] <ThinkingMan> mnepton: I'm using network manager and nm-applet now, but I'm trying to exclude a SSID and network manager doesn't seem to be able to do that
[07:01] <xbow> hi all, ubuntu-server 6.06 after the installing on PC with VIA EPIA doesn't start (freezes after message: Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel).  Kernel is 2.6.15-23-server
[07:01] <whyameye> bay-bee: and how/where do I find a SMP capable kernel?
[07:02] <jbroome> !smp
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <rbil> xbow, just went thru that myself a couple days ago. ubuntu-server won't work. you need to get the alternative distribution and install server from there.
[07:02] <anilomkar> pixelPOET, ok i applied theme to my system, when i open a window in root mode then the theme is not visible.
[07:02] <bay-bee> start the synaptic packet manager, and search for kernel, you will get a loong list of various kernels, choose the newest one (2.6.15-27 i think) 686 SMP
[07:03] <barnetod> guess i need to download server edition as well if i am runnign print servers :)
[07:03] <xbow> rbil: :(
[07:03] <rbil> I know. It's silly.
[07:03] <rbil> but you get endless reboots
[07:03] <anilomkar> pixelPOET, root mode means i opened the windows through run "gksudo nautilus /media/hda5"
[07:03] <pixelPOET> anilomkar, ah...okay. you are going to want to copy that same theme from ~/.themes to /usr/share/themes
[07:03] <spdf> whyameye, If I'm not mistaken, it should detect the smp with the generic kernel they've got going on now..
[07:03] <hrp2171> hello
[07:04] <pixelPOET> it appears you only have the theme installed to your user.
[07:04] <anilomkar> pixelPOET, ok ok thanks...
[07:04] <whyameye> spdf: well..I know it isn't currently recognizing the 2nd cpu in dapper....
[07:04] <hrp2171> when adept downloads pkgs for install, where are they kept? which directory?  thanks.
[07:04] <wastrel> hrp2171:  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:04] <bay-bee> yeah the generic kernel works to
[07:04] <barnetod> pixel where is a good resource for networking ubuntu laptop with windows desktop
[07:04] <barnetod> as far as print server/file dump
[07:04] <hrp2171> awesome. do they stick around even after install is done?
[07:05] <wastrel> ye
[07:05] <wastrel> s
[07:05] <hrp2171> thanks
[07:05] <barnetod> or if anyone knows of a good place.
[07:05] <wastrel> you can safely remove them after install if you need the disk space
[07:06] <spdf> whyameye, There's a linux-686-smp package in the restricted dapper repo
[07:06] <hrp2171> i got the w32codecs installed on my laptop but didn't remember how or where I got em.  now i need to put them on my desktop. so i'll get them from my laptop.
[07:06] <jbroome> !w32codecs
[07:06] <spdf> hrp2171, you can get them from plf, but its dead
[07:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:06] <whyameye> spdf: thanks, I'll try.
[07:07] <sexserver> jbroome, if you want i could send it by mail...
[07:08] <hrp2171> alright guys.  thanks.
[07:09] <barnetod> hey guys before i finish downloading ubuntu one question
[07:10] <barnetod> any of you ever shared a folder through windows xp and able to access through ubuntu?
[07:10] <Vaske_Car> me
[07:10] <barnetod> i am curious if i need to convince the wife to let me load ubuntu on her pc :)
[07:10] <Vaske_Car> its easy
[07:10] <Vaske_Car> you can map it as well on Ubuntu desktop
[07:10] <azureal> lo, is there some clever way to make startup progs + commands that is desktop-independent?
[07:11] <azureal> barnetod, yea, it involves mounting the folder, as you would mount a flash drive, or cdrom
[07:11] <barnetod> ok azu
[07:11] <barnetod> i need this to be as painless as possible
[07:11] <spdf> whyameye, should work for you, the grub option won't say smp, it'll be detected automatically on boot..
[07:11] <Vaske_Car> barnetod, just click Places, connect to server and it will map folder automatically
[07:11] <barnetod> i cant afford to lose 800 megs of code again
[07:11] <mythril> is there a built in gnome rfb package?
[07:11] <barnetod> xp killed a 6 month old project
[07:11] <mikm[laptop] > 800MB of code?
[07:11] <mikm[laptop] > hfs
[07:11] <barnetod> yeah mikm
[07:11] <ThinkingMan> exit
[07:11] <azureal> if you have questions later, just ask about mounting your windows partition
[07:12] <barnetod> i program robotics
[07:12] <ThinkingMan> whoops
[07:12] <whyameye> spdf: yes. But it will only work if I install the smp kernel, correct?
[07:12] <barnetod> for m&m mars and.... lets say
[07:12] <barnetod> it went bye bye
[07:12] <barnetod> lol
[07:12] <azureal> people will guide you to the appropriate wiki on fstab.
[07:12] <barnetod> well 2 weeks of work
[07:12] <azureal> how did it go bye bye?!
[07:12] <mikm[laptop] > Not backing up :p
[07:12] <barnetod> xp locked up, then rebooted
[07:12] <barnetod> formatted itself
[07:12] <azureal> ?!
[07:12] <spdf> whyameye, Well, the linux-686-smp package is just a metapackage that points to linux-image-686, the smp package has been removed in edgy
[07:12] <barnetod> without a message :)
[07:13] <mikm[laptop] > How did it format itself?
[07:13] <barnetod> ask the programmers
[07:13] <barnetod> hell
[07:13] <azureal> barnetod, what kind of antivirus do you have installed =P
[07:13] <barnetod> if i knew
[07:13] <whyameye> spdf: I'm in dapper...so should multiprocessor support already be working? It definitely isn't...
[07:13] <mikm[laptop] > !ohmy > barnetod
[07:13] <azureal> !ohmy
[07:13] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:13] <azureal> oh lol
[07:13] <barnetod> azu norton,mcafee and kap
[07:13] <azureal> ok, i hate norton...
[07:13] <barnetod> me too
[07:13] <barnetod> but company requires it
[07:14] <BHSPitLappy> eww
[07:14] <barnetod> so...
[07:14] <spdf> whyameye, It will when you've installed the 686 kernel
[07:14] <BHSPitLappy> barnetod, so quit
[07:14] <spdf> whyameye, It installs the 386 kernel by default
[07:14] <barnetod> norton internet protection is no good either
[07:14] <barnetod> haha bhsp i am in 6 monthes
[07:14] <azureal> barnetod, ok, i only have one antivirus on my windows partition, and it's the free version -- AVG
[07:14] <mikm[laptop] > Norton anything is no good
[07:14] <spdf> whyameye, is it mulitcore or hyperthread?
[07:14] <barnetod> months* even
[07:14] <whyameye> spdf: got it. Thanks. I'll install the 686 now. It's hyperthread I guess. Xeon.
[07:15] <barnetod> i agree mikm
[07:15] <barnetod> but when big brother says you need it
[07:15] <barnetod> and he pays the light bill
[07:15] <barnetod> :)
[07:15] <mikm[laptop] > You write a program to fake it :)
[07:15] <Smotang> whats the difference between redhat, debian and ubuntu?
[07:15] <barnetod> it isnt worth the time :)
[07:15] <mikm[laptop] > Smotang they're different distributions
[07:16] <mikm[laptop] > Ubuntu is based off of Debian
[07:16] <mikm[laptop] > RedHat uses a different package management system than Ubuntu and Debian
[07:16] <Smotang> I see? and that means what? I know it means distributed by different company's but are they interchangeable?
[07:16] <Smotang> ah!
[07:16] <Smotang> so they all use the same kernel?
[07:16] <Sutur> Can't use one type of package on another system.
[07:16] <Sutur> Yes.
[07:17] <mikm[laptop] > Not necessarily "interchangeable"
[07:17] <azureal> Smotang, do you like hawaiian pizza? or how about meat lovers pizza?
[07:17] <Smotang> ah huh? so if i was to try and install a program that was made for redhat it would not work on debian?
[07:17] <mikm[laptop] > Not necessarily.
[07:17] <azureal> Smotang, or mushroom + onion?
[07:17] <Smotang> Azureal your point is that they are all pizza's but with different toppings?
[07:18] <azureal> they're different _flavors_  =)
[07:18] <azureal> but they're all linux ;)
[07:18] <mikm[laptop] > Mushroom and onion is delicious
[07:18] <Smotang> kk
[07:18] <barnetod> okay one more how stable is 6.10?
[07:18] <barnetod> compared to 6.06
[07:18] <rbil> Smotang, you want to get applications from the respository of your distribution, or you can compile the source code to work on your system.
[07:18] <Smotang> Also with most programs that I have found on the net that support linux they dont call it linux they call it Unix? why is that?
[07:19] <azureal> the distros have a core that is similar
[07:19] <azureal> unix commands appear in linux
[07:19] <Smotang> ah gotcha
[07:19] <azureal> and certain root subfolders, permissions, etc
[07:20] <barnetod> any of you use wine?
[07:20] <whyameye> barnetod: I use an old version of wine.
[07:20] <azureal> unix was first, though, but you could look up linux on wikipedia and i'm sure you'll learn about its history ;)
[07:20] <Smotang> ok another question where does ubuntu hide its non nesseccary programs? In windows the same programs would be in c:/program files/
[07:20] <spdf> barnetod, cedega here (or WineX)
[07:20] <barnetod> i need one win app to work once i convert this sucker
[07:20] <azureal> lol, i'd think most of the programs in C:\program files\ would be necessary
[07:20] <mikm[laptop] > /opt/
[07:20] <rbil> All programs are non necessary in Windoze as is the o/s itself
[07:21] <spdf> barnetod, which?
[07:21] <mikm[laptop] > It can be in a few places, really
[07:21] <barnetod> maple soft
[07:21] <Smotang> No, you could delete them and your computer would still have no problem running
[07:21] <barnetod> and mathtype
[07:21] <DoLe> @Smotang: it would be in /opt or in /usr/lib as far as i know
[07:21] <rbil> in Linux all programs are necessary or you wouldn't install them in the first place.
[07:21] <mikm[laptop] > Mathtype is ownage
[07:21] <barnetod> engineering programs that have no linux support
[07:21] <Luke> Linux is not an operating system... just a kernel. GNU is the userland so together its GNU/Linux, the OS
[07:21] <barnetod> you like it mikm?
[07:21] <azureal> i dont have anything in opt.. only /usr/lib =P
[07:22] <Luke> UNIX is a full OS
[07:22] <mikm[laptop] > barnetod Yeah.  It's one of the few programs I miss
[07:22] <barnetod> need a copy?
[07:22] <barnetod>  :)
[07:22] <Smotang> You fail to understand, GIMP is  for me a rather necessary program, but as far as the computer is concerned you could remove it and the computer would still run other programs with ease. where abouts would gimp and other programs like it be stored?
[07:22] <mikm[laptop] > I have a legit copy :)
[07:22] <barnetod> i have a license agreement with them
[07:22] <barnetod> so i toss it to people a lot
[07:22] <spdf> barnetod, You could try an install in vmware, and try to load it up in wine.. See if it works out..
[07:22] <Flannel> Smotang: the same place as all the other programs
[07:22] <mikm[laptop] > barnetod What version?
[07:22] <azureal> Smotang, it would probably be in /usr/lib, but you could probably just type "gimp" in the terminal and it would start ;)
[07:23] <barnetod> let me see. i think 5.2
[07:23] <Smotang> Flannel thank you for that, now where would those other programs be?
[07:23] <mikm[laptop] > I really haven't found a decent substitute.  One of the nicest features, imo, was that it easily exported to tex markup
[07:23] <whyameye> Smotang: if you want to know where a program is type "which gimp" on the command line. Probably /usr/bin.
[07:23] <mikm[laptop] > ooh.  I only have 4.x
[07:23] <Smotang> Thanks Azureal
[07:23] <barnetod> spdf im almost about to burn the image so it may need testing :)
[07:23] <Smotang> thanks Whyameye
[07:23] <azureal> Smotang, but preferably "gimp&" to make it run in the background.
[07:23] <rbil> Smotang ... http://customdesign.homelinux.net/nilug/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36&Itemid=38
[07:23] <Flannel> Smotang: /usr/bin, but that's included in your command line path, so just type the command to run it
[07:23] <red|rain> Hi, just a few moments ago, I completly lost my audio. I was watching a DVD then it stoped. I check alsamixer and it was fine nothing is muted at all. any ideas?
[07:23] <fonz2591> edgy is thursday, right?
[07:23] <mikm[laptop] > 5.x might be fun to play with.  I wouldn't mind a copy, if it isn't too much trouble :)
[07:24] <fonz2591> (26th)
[07:24] <Flannel> Smotang: you really don't need to know where most stuff is, because it's all ready to go
[07:24] <barnetod> one sec ill give youa link
[07:24] <spdf> Maplesoft appears to have a linux client
[07:25] <spdf> Atleast, maplesoft 10 student edition..
[07:25] <barnetod> yeah it does spdf :) lol whoops
[07:25] <barnetod> maybe calculus wiz didnt
[07:25] <DoLe> sudo aptitude show firefox | grep Version gives me wrong version
[07:25] <barnetod> ill have to open my brain :)
[07:25] <spdf> DoLe, Which version were you expecting?
[07:25] <Flannel> DoLe: which version does it give you? and what were you expecting?
[07:26] <barnetod> mikm got pm :)
[07:26] <younghun> hi
[07:26] <DoLe> i have 2.0 final. it gives me "Version: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06"
[07:27] <spdf> DoLe, You -have- it? From firefox, the about dialog shows 2.0?
[07:27] <Flannel> DoLe: you don't have 2.0 final from the repositories though
[07:27] <jbroome> omg you can install programs that aren't in a repo?
[07:27] <DoLe> about dialog shows 2.0. I didn't get get it repository.
[07:27] <Flannel> jbroome: sure.  through various methods,
[07:28] <Flannel> DoLe: since you didn't install it via aptitude/dpkg, aptitude has no idea it exists
[07:28] <spdf> DoLe, Ahh, well you didn't get it from the repo then. aptitude/synaptic/etc will only show you whats in the repos, not what you've installed from another method..
[07:29] <DoLe> means i didn't screw up anything its aptitude thats gone mad. right?
[07:29] <tritium> DoLe: no, aptitude has not gone mad.  See spdf's reply.
[07:29] <spdf> DoLe, Well, how did you install 2.0?
[07:30] <DoLe> through a script i found somewhere.
[07:30] <Flannel> DoLe: no, aptitude hasn't gone mad.  It's just reporting an entirely different firefox extirely, you have both installed.
[07:30] <whyameye> spdf: okay I installed the linux 686 kernel. It's finding 4 CPUs but hyperthreading is disabled (according to dmesg). Does this mean I have dual core CPUs?
[07:30] <DoLe> i removed 1.5.0.7
[07:30] <spdf> DoLe, Well, I hope it put it in /usr/local
[07:30] <DoLe> yes thats where it is.
[07:30] <spdf> whyameye, Er, two dual core cpus?
[07:31] <spdf> DoLe, You're fine then
[07:31] <whyameye> spdf: I think. It's 2 Xeons in there.
[07:31] <barnetod> so question of the night is why not switch to ubuntu
[07:31] <barnetod> :)
[07:31] <DoLe> no its in /usr/lib
[07:31] <Flannel> DoLe: then aptitude is reporting the repository version, and still has no idea the other exists.  Just be aware, your version of firefox is not under package management, and therefore you get to deal with it on your own for keeping it up to date/patched etc, and mediating with upgrades to future ubuntu versions
[07:31] <spdf> DoLe, Mmm.. Very nice..
[07:31] <Vaske_Car> where do I find mapped folder in system three?
[07:31] <mikm[laptop] > Don't switch to Ubuntu if you like spending lots of money
[07:31] <spdf> mikm[laptop] , money on what?
[07:32] <mikm[laptop] > Software
[07:32] <MasseR> barnetod: If you don't like to use time to get everything to work
[07:32] <apprentice> ubuntu sent me all these cds i dont know what todo with them
[07:32] <spdf> mikm[laptop] , What have you spent money on?
[07:32] <MasseR> I've stent the entire day to get only my fans working
[07:32] <mikm[laptop] > spdf Nothing yet.  Re-read what I said.
[07:32] <spdf> apprentice, I suggest you keep them out of your mouth.
[07:32] <apprentice> i thought they might fit in my mouth
[07:32] <barnetod> should i keep downloading 6.10 or get 6.06?
[07:32] <Smotang> apprentice Give them to friends and such
[07:32] <MasseR> I have 3d to get working only anymore
[07:32] <apprentice> no get free coasters
[07:33] <apprentice> i dont have friends
[07:33] <mikm[laptop] > Canonical should develop sturdy, edible CDs
[07:33] <Smotang> I like your style
[07:33] <spdf> Delicious
[07:33] <aztek> is there a line i can add to my wpa_supplicant.conf to connect based upon the routers MAC address and not the SSID
[07:34] <barnetod> lol thats sad the official book is half the price of a replacement manual from microsoft
[07:34] <barnetod> lol
[07:34] <DoLe> OK thanks spdf and Flannel.
[07:34] <Geoffrey2> mikm[laptop] , how about a water soluable CD? in case you need to hide the evidence in a hurry?
[07:34] <Ottoman> hi
[07:34] <mikm[laptop] > Interesting idea
[07:34] <barnetod> hey is there a good photoshop app for ubuntu?
[07:35] <apprentice> i like akwairc on os x
[07:35] <mikm[laptop] > But I was thinking along the lines of software in 3rd-world companies
[07:35] <mikm[laptop] > Kill two birds with one stone - send them an OS and lunch.
[07:35] <barnetod> geoff they have an acid at my work that does that :)
[07:35] <barnetod> turns the cd white
[07:35] <barnetod> :)
[07:35] <apprentice> acid
[07:35] <apprentice> yummy
[07:35] <Geoffrey2> mikm[laptop] , what, upgrade Ubuntu and have lunch at the same time?
[07:35] <spdf> barnetod, there's Gimp, if you want something "similar" to photoshop then try out GimpShop
[07:36] <apprentice> is gimp supposed to be gimp
[07:36] <barnetod> thank spdf that available on sourceforge?
[07:36] <mikm[laptop] > Make them last a long time so they can eat their old CDs when the new version comes out
[07:36] <spdf> barnetod, Google for it. I've only ever compiled it from source
[07:36] <mikm[laptop] > bonus points: make them taste like the animal in question
[07:36] <mikm[laptop] > Dapper Drake CDs taste like roast duck
[07:36] <mikm[laptop] > etc.
[07:37] <barnetod> mikm i need to send you some candy then
[07:37] <barnetod> lol eating cds
[07:37] <spdf> Oh man, the Fancy Fawn. I love deer.
[07:37] <Geoffrey2> as far as I can see, the Linux version of Firefox doesn't have an installer...I guess you just copy the folder to wherever you want it, then run the start script
[07:37] <marcrosoft> can you order edgy cds yet?
[07:37] <mikm[laptop] > No
[07:37] <mnepton> Geoffrey2: or just wait the week it will take to get in the repositories
[07:37] <mikm[laptop] > I just checked myself :)
[07:37] <cafuego> marcrosoft: There won't be any edgy CDs
[07:37] <bluefox83> Geoffrey2, whah? just get it from apt >.>
[07:37] <Robbie_> Hi all, I'm trying to play video in totem, and it's telling me i need plugins, where can I get them?
[07:37] <marcrosoft> mikm[laptop] , thur?
[07:38] <alexander> how to extract .rar files
[07:38] <alexander> ?
[07:38] <DoLe> Robbie_ install w32codecs
[07:38] <Geoffrey2> bluefox83, I'm not whining about it...just saying it doesn't seem to have an installer.....
[07:38] <barnetod> download winrar :) har har
[07:38] <spdf> alex_ubuntu, apt-get install unrar (you'll need to enable multiverse)
[07:38] <pixelPOET> alexander, apt-get install unrar
[07:38] <Robbie_> Where can I get those?
[07:38] <barnetod> good program there
[07:39] <pixelPOET> spdf, i almost sent that to alex_ubuntu  too
[07:39] <pixelPOET> :P
[07:39] <bluefox83> Geoffrey2, that's cus every distro has it available for download and installation from their package managers
[07:39] <spdf> !w32codecs | Robbie_
[07:39] <ubotu> Robbie_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:39] <spdf> pixelPOET, Fast hands...
[07:40] <pixelPOET> spdf, you wouldn't believe how fast hands coupled with the "rm" command and the "tab" button have drove me to curse out my computer.
[07:40] <kyonsalt> Any1,the ESD daemon got 100% cpu load when booting. Then, the
[07:40] <kyonsalt> ubuntu slow enough except I kill the ESD-bin esound esound-server pid.
[07:40] <kyonsalt> How to do then?
[07:40] <spdf> pixelPOET, My mom deleted 90% of her home dir yesterday doing just that
[07:40] <marcrosoft> cafuego, aww :(
[07:40] <vilefridge> Hello.  Just did a dist-upgrade to edgy and while unpacking one of the new packages, Anjuita, it said it failed and tossed me to a command line.  'startx' won't work, and neither will dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  I'm stuck at a command line.  Any suggestions?
[07:41] <Flannel> vilefridge: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[07:41] <vilefridge> thanks
[07:41] <pixelPOET> spdf, haha...must suck. i fubared my fluxbox install...thankfully i had most of it backed up
[07:41] <alexander> what should i do after installing unrar
[07:41] <alexander> ?
[07:41] <pixelPOET> alexander, "man unrar"
[07:42] <pixelPOET> alexander, i believe it is "unrar -e [rarfile] " but verify that
[07:42] <cafuego> marcrosoft: 6.06 is LTS, so as I understand it they'll keep shipping those instead; whereas edgy won't be as stable as dapper.
[07:43] <marcrosoft> cafuego, i see..
[07:43] <apprentice> so is ubuntu ever gonna be usefull
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> marcrosoft: Of course everybody can burn Edgy CDs and hand those out even if ShipIt doesn't have them.
[07:43] <apprentice> marcrosoft
[07:43] <marcrosoft> is there a better version of 'top'?
[07:43] <Noah0504> apprentice: I find it useful all ready.
[07:43] <pixelPOET> apprentice, it is...it depends on the user.
[07:43] <bur[n] er> htop
[07:43] <spdf> marcrosoft, htop
[07:44] <pixelPOET> apprentice, which doesnt say much for you, apparently.
[07:44] <spdf> marcrosoft, its not "better", just easier to look at..
[07:44] <bur[n] er> marcrosoft: gnome-system-monitor :)
[07:44] <LinuxRetard> your friends over at Edubuntu don't like my name.  I hope people in this group have a better sense of humor...
[07:44] <barnetod> spdf when you work in the corporate word you thank god you have windows lol
[07:44] <marcrosoft> spdf, i think htop was the one... yea not better just easier on the eyes
[07:45] <barnetod> peopl have a hard enough time using lotus notes at my office
[07:45] <barnetod> burner need a job :)
[07:45] <LinuxRetard> I have Edubuntu on two of my kiddies pcs...both wireless.  1 works, 1 doesn't. anyone feeling helpful this evening?
[07:46] <apprentice> isnt lotus really old
[07:46] <spdf> marcrosoft, Yeh, its almost exactly the same really. Just colours and other visual stuff..
[07:46] <apprentice> like lotus 123
[07:46] <spdf> LinuxRetard, Same hardware?
[07:46] <barnetod> no apprentice
[07:46] <bur[n] er> lotus domino and lotus notes seem fairly up to date
[07:46] <barnetod> lotus notes 10 i think we run
[07:46] <AbortD> how do i compile something with opengl?
[07:46] <barnetod> stinks though
[07:46] <barnetod> so slow
[07:46] <bur[n] er> barnetod: does it work with linux? i saw the latest version has an os x client
[07:46] <apprentice> does lotus also make cars
[07:46] <AbortD> like this program has a option of opengl
[07:46] <barnetod> and just laid out so poorly
[07:46] <AbortD> how i apply that option?
[07:47] <LinuxRetard> spdf, no.  need to know brand?
[07:47] <apprentice> what is for os x?
[07:47] <spdf> LinuxRetard, Sure, of the one thats not working
[07:47] <pixelPOET> LinuxRetard, whats the lspci output for the wireless cards on both machines? it's possible that one is automatically detected and the other needs ndiswrapper
[07:47] <LinuxRetard> spdf...be right back
[07:48] <barnetod> i need a book for linux haha im so lost on some of this
[07:48] <ZirJoker> !player
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:48] <barnetod> i know bosch motronics like no other but linux = lost lost soul
[07:48] <ZirJoker> !media players
[07:48] <spdf> ZirJoker, Xine, Totem, Mplayer
[07:48] <spdf> ZirJoker, What exactly are you looking for?
[07:48] <ZirJoker> i have xmms and rythm box
[07:48] <ZirJoker> the best player
[07:49] <ZirJoker> which player do you use?
[07:49] <spdf> ZirJoker, Best is subjective..
[07:49] <ZirJoker> i know is subjective... but i hmm i used to use winamp 5 in windows and i want the closest player to it, xmms is more like winamp 2
[07:50] <barnetod> i use rockbox in windows
[07:50] <marcrosoft> winamp 5 was crap.. in my opinion
[07:50] <bur[n] er> ZirJoker: try listen?
[07:50] <barnetod> best thing on earth for windows
[07:50] <marcrosoft> owned by aol.. and had tons of bloatware
[07:50] <DoLe_> ZirJoker: most linux media players are like itunes
[07:50] <marcrosoft> could try bmp..
[07:50] <barnetod> zir check rockbox
[07:50] <bur[n] er> bmp is like xmms is like winamp 2
[07:50] <Madpilot> Muine FTW
[07:50] <marcrosoft> ZirJoker, bmp is updated xmms
[07:51] <alexander> how to install real player
[07:51] <alexander> ?
[07:51] <bur[n] er> wtf is rockbox... listen rocks ;)
[07:51] <ZirJoker> xD
[07:51] <alexander> apt-get install Realplayer is not working
[07:51] <bur[n] er> rockbox is for portable players
[07:51] <ZirJoker> :O
[07:51] <ZirJoker> xD
[07:51] <fdsd> hey guys, how can I make this script shorter and so it doesnt have to repeat? http://keanmarine.com/test1
[07:51] <propagandhi> !RestrictedFormats
[07:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:51] <ZirJoker> so which media player do you recommend to me?
[07:52] <spdf> alex_ubuntu, Do you have the canonical repo enabled?
[07:52] <alexander> what is thaT?
[07:52] <propagandhi> ZirJoker: try kaffeine, mplayer and more, you'll only know ur own preference by tryinh
[07:52] <propagandhi> trying
[07:52] <bur[n] er> ZirJoker: http://listengnome.free.fr/  <--listen is gtk and has a lot of teh same winamp features, but no video
[07:52] <barnetod> burner all i use with my ipod :)
[07:52] <spdf> alexander, deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[07:52] <barnetod> no need to listen to music through my laptop
[07:52] <ZirJoker> does it has a media library?
[07:52] <LinuxRetard> spdf, airlink+ no model number...think awlh3025
[07:52] <bur[n] er> ZirJoker: yes
[07:52] <ZirJoker> :o
[07:53] <spdf> LinuxRetard, Whats the Laptop brand/model?
[07:53] <DoLe_> ZirJoker you can automatix2.
[07:53] <ZirJoker> hmmm
[07:53] <ZirJoker> ok
[07:53] <ZirJoker> someone told me automatix was evil
[07:53] <ZirJoker> xDD
[07:54] <propagandhi> ZirJoker: maybe amarok is for u
[07:54] <spdf> LinuxRetard, It appears that you may have to use ndiswrapper with that one
[07:54] <LinuxRetard> spdf, no laptop, p4 1.7mhz 512ram...my brand
[07:54] <ZirJoker> amarok...? is it another media player?
[07:54] <Flannel> ZirJoker: it is.
[07:54] <propagandhi> ZirJoker: u need to look around at whats available and try them
[07:54] <Flannel> DoLe_: please don't recommend automatix
[07:54] <DoLe_> oops. sorry.
[07:54] <spdf> LinuxRetard, Ahh, Just a pci card then
[07:54] <barnetod> spdf is there a list of ubuntu supported wireless cards?
[07:55] <ZirJoker> listengnome looks good
[07:55] <ZirJoker> lets download it..
[07:55] <spdf> barnetod, if it works with linux it'll work with ubuntu
[07:55] <LinuxRetard> spdf, yes...pci 802.11g...works fine in winblows
[07:56] <barnetod> mines an intel pro
[07:56] <spdf> LinuxRetard, Well, I'd look into ndiswrapper
[07:56] <spdf> LinuxRetard, You'll need to get the driver you're using in windows, and set it up with ndiswrapper.
[07:56] <barnetod> i hope it works lol
[07:57] <LinuxRetard> spdf, I will try it...not much luck w/it in the past.  Thanx for your help and barnetod...thanx for your er uh encouragement?
[07:58] <barnetod> linuxretard im sorry lol im so new to this
[07:58] <barnetod> im still downloading my first version
[07:58] <propagandhi> you go girls!
[07:58] <spdf> LinuxRetard, It shouldn't give you too much grief. There's no need to compile the ndiswrapper kernel modules atleast..
[07:58] <pixelPOET> LinuxRetard, do you have ndiswrapper installed on both machines?
[07:59] <LinuxRetard> barnetod, I'm always good for a giggle and a genuine newb myself
[07:59] <barnetod> you may wanna be in here tomorrow and watch how bad the install will go
[07:59] <silly_girl22> help please. im having trouble with using ntfs after i mounted it. i keep getting permission denied and i logged in as root with sudo su
[07:59] <ZirJoker> how do i install listengnome?
[07:59] <LinuxRetard> spdf, i've tried it with puppy and failed miserably over and over, wish me luck!
[08:00] <spdf> LinuxRetard, good luck. Just make sure you're matching up the right driver with the card..
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> !ntfs | silly_girl22
[08:00] <barnetod> whats a good torrent client for linux
[08:00] <ubotu> silly_girl22: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:00] <ZirJoker> !torrent
[08:00] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[08:00] <DoLe> azureus
[08:00] <barnetod> ugh
[08:00] <barnetod> :( azu will do
[08:01] <propagandhi> silly_girl22: you trying to write to the NTFS partition?
[08:01] <ZirJoker> how do i install listengnome?
[08:02] <pixelPOET> ZirJoker, http://listengnome.free.fr/
[08:02] <pixelPOET> go to the downloads section
[08:02] <DoLe> ZirJoker: use synaptic
[08:02] <silly_girl22> im not tryint to write to ntfs
[08:02] <ZirJoker> ok
[08:02] <silly_girl22> i just want to view pictures on it
[08:02] <pixelPOET> DoLe, is it already in the repos?
[08:02] <silly_girl22> it used to be simple
[08:02] <silly_girl22> did something change?
[08:02] <dabaR__> silly_girl22: oh, you silly girl, you can't watch pictures
[08:02] <bur[n] er> ZirJoker: you have to add the repositories from teh site... look at teh download page
[08:02] <DoLe> it is named listen
[08:03] <pixelPOET> ZirJoker, where it says 6.06 stable, your going to want to put those lines in the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[08:03] <ZirJoker> :o
[08:03] <ZirJoker> so i type... sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:03] <pixelPOET> ZirJoker, then run apt-get update && apt-get install listen
[08:03] <pixelPOET> ZirJoker, yes.
[08:03] <ZirJoker> :o
[08:03] <barnetod> so uh anyone need an oink invite so answering questions :)
[08:03] <barnetod> all i got lol
[08:04] <propagandhi> silly_girl22: what is the output of cat /etc/mtab
[08:04] <barnetod> so=for :)
[08:04] <silly_girl22> whats wrong with this assuming /dev/hda2 is my ntfs partition?  mkdir /home/ubuntu/Desktop/Windows; sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /home/ubuntu/Desktop/Windows
[08:04] <silly_girl22> and im using a live cd
[08:05] <silly_girl22> thats why my user is ubuntu
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> How can I determine a keys keycode (cli)?
[08:05] <silly_girl22> heres a little output from /etc/mtab     /dev/hda2 /home/ubuntu/Desktop/Windows ntfs rw 0 0
[08:05] <dabaR__> silly_girl22: you can't write, right?
[08:05] <dabaR__> sorry
[08:05] <dabaR__> silly_girl22: you cant see anything because of permissions
[08:06] <silly_girl22> okay, how is it corrected?
[08:06] <dabaR__>  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /home/ubuntu/Desktop/Windows -oumask=0222
[08:06] <dabaR__> but first sudo umount /dev/hda2
[08:06] <bur[n] er> silly_girl22: "sudo su" :)  just become root and browse around
[08:06] <marcrosoft> anyone know of a program for linux that is free and will copy a disk sector by sector like ghost?
[08:06] <spdf> marcrosoft, dd
[08:06] <dabaR__> bur[n] er: why, that's a good solution...
[08:07] <propagandhi> silly_girl22: after u mounted it are u navigating the ntfs drive from a terminal or the folder browser
[08:07] <bur[n] er> marcrosoft: dd is command line and there is no gui that does this afaik :\
[08:07] <AbortD> anyone know how i build with opengl?
[08:07] <ZirJoker> it says it cant finde listen
[08:07] <bur[n] er> dabaR__: very true... but i always forget the option -oumask and have to man page it to look it up
[08:08] <dabaR__> bur[n] er: you have to set the umask. it is an option, umask=0222
[08:08] <dabaR__> that is how I remember it
[08:09] <dabaR__> and lots of people ask
[08:09] <marcrosoft> anyone home
[08:10] <DoLe> ZirJoker accept my sources.list
[08:10] <bur[n] er> anyone know of a linux app that can image a drive and save it to a compressed file?  dd can do byte for byte, but can it be compressed and restored bit by bit?
[08:10] <ZirJoker> eeh
[08:10] <silly_girl22> anyone have expierence with 2wire router/modem?
[08:10] <ZirJoker> where do i do that? XD
[08:10] <silly_girl22> experience
[08:10] <bur[n] er> 2wire's re soooooooooo slow
[08:10] <ZirJoker> i have a 2wire home portal
[08:10] <propagandhi> bur[n] er: ghost for linux??
[08:10] <propagandhi> bur[n] er: or are u looking for something that can run whilst in the OS/GUI
[08:11] <bur[n] er> propagandhi: that's the idea ;)  i find myself still using a windows livecd and driveimage xml
[08:11] <ZirJoker> dole where do i accept your sources list?
[08:11] <silly_girl22> ZirJoker: i need your help. i couldnt set up port forwarding on it. if i tried on any other router, it would have been no problem
[08:11] <LinuxRetard> spdf, wlan0 shows active.  does this mean anything?  also how do I get to ndiswrapper
[08:11] <propagandhi> bur[n] er: there actually is a project called ghost4linux
[08:11] <bur[n] er> propagandhi: both from a livecd and live while in teh os
[08:11] <DoLe> leave it.
[08:11] <spdf> AbortD, Does it use SDL?
[08:11] <ZirJoker> eeeh
[08:11] <AbortD> yes
[08:11] <silly_girl22> bur[n] er: can you help with 2wire?
[08:12] <ZirJoker> i only connected ethernet to my pc and it works just fine
[08:12] <ZirJoker> in my xp pc and my ubuntu pc
[08:12] <AbortD> its something like ./configure -prefix=/usr -opengl
[08:12] <AbortD> or something
[08:12] <silly_girl22> ZirJoker: im trying to setup 2wire so i can vnc to a computer on its network. can you help?
[08:12] <spdf> AbortD, If its SDL then you'll need to install the SDL dev packages
[08:12] <AbortD> i did
[08:12] <propagandhi> bur[n] er: http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l
[08:12] <bur[n] er> silly_girl22: what's the issue?  possibly... i don't have one, but seen them plenty
[08:12] <AbortD> its a option when i compile
[08:12] <spdf> AbortD, What errors is it giving you then?
[08:13] <AbortD> i do not know how to get it
[08:13] <ZirJoker> mo i cant sorry
[08:13] <AbortD> Build with OpenGL: no
[08:13] <bur[n] er> silly_girl22: it's able to port forward based on netbios name :)  that's kinda neat
[08:13] <spdf> AbortD, what is it that you're trying to compile?
[08:13] <AbortD> the mana world
[08:13] <AbortD> its a game
[08:13] <DoLe> ZirJoker: my mistake its not there in repo by default. i had to put in a external repo to get it in synaptic. Sorry.
[08:13] <silly_girl22> bur[n] er: yes, but confusing as hell. how do i do that with linux?
[08:14] <ZirJoker> :s
[08:14] <bur[n] er> silly_girl22: linux still uses netbios names... /etc/hostname
[08:14] <spdf> AbortD, sudo apt-get install libphysfs-dev libcurl3-openssl-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev libsdl-net1.2-dev
[08:14] <AbortD> your making me want to die
[08:15] <AbortD> dude
[08:15] <DoLe> the external repo i am talking about is there at http://listengnome.free.fr/ ... click on downloads
[08:15] <spdf> AbortD, Check out http://wiki.themanaworld.org/index.php/Dependencies
[08:15] <AbortD> its in the ./configure screen to enable opengl
[08:15] <AbortD> i've done it before
[08:15] <AbortD> i dont care about dependancies
[08:15] <AbortD> its a option
[08:15] <AbortD> not a dependancy
[08:15] <bur[n] er> ZirJoker: i messaged you
[08:15] <silly_girl22> bur[n] er: if ubuntu is in my /etc/hostname, should that show up in the router? btw its a router and modem in 1
[08:16] <bur[n] er> silly_girl22: it should
[08:17] <marcrosoft> anyone know of a hard drive copying program (like norton ghost) for linux?
[08:17] <spdf> AbortD, Its --with-opengl
[08:17] <marcrosoft> and is free/open source
[08:17] <bur[n] er> marcrosoft: partimage :)
[08:17] <AbortD> there we go!
[08:18] <AbortD> thank you!
[08:18] <AbortD> i told ya it was a string!
[08:18] <spdf> AbortD, ./configure --help for next time
[08:18] <AbortD> i did
[08:18] <AbortD> didnt know which one to pick
[08:18] <spdf> AbortD, ./configure --help | grep opengl
[08:18] <AbortD> grep opengl?
[08:18] <spdf> AbortD, It'll show you which lines contain "opengl"
[08:19] <spdf> AbortD, as opposed to showing you everything..
[08:19] <AbortD> oh ok
[08:19] <AbortD> i was goin nuts
[08:21] <bug> does anyone have the ice1724 (envy something) soundcard? i just upgraded and i can't seem to get sound to work on the livecd
[08:21] <kraut> moin
[08:22] <spdf> AbortD, No problem. I was sort of lost as to what was going on.. Since you were just asking "anyone know how I build with opengl?" or something..
[08:22] <AbortD> :P
[08:22] <LinuxRetard> spdf? Remember me? wlan0 shows active.  does this mean anything?  also how do I get to ndiswrapper?
[08:23] <spdf> LinuxRetard, Oooh, Sorry..
[08:23] <spdf> LinuxRetard, Is the AP open?
[08:23] <propagandhi> LinuxRetard: what does iwconfig wlan0 say
[08:23] <AbortD> how do i check what % my comp is running at?
[08:24] <spdf> AbortD, Expand on your questions.. CPU?
[08:24] <AbortD> central processing unit
[08:24] <bimberi> AbortD: top
[08:25] <spdf> AbortD, Fair enough...  System -> Admin -> System Monitor... or, top from the command line..
[08:25] <LinuxRetard> spdf propagandhi, i'll go open the console and check the iwconfig
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible to map a key to a command on cli?
[08:26] <spdf> LinuxRetard, try iwlist wlan0 ap
[08:27] <spdf> LinuxRetard, or, iwlist wlan0 scaning
[08:27] <silly_girl22> bur[n] er: how soon will it know if there is another computer with a netbios name. i mean how long will it recognize and find ubuntu if i reboot from windows and put a live cd in. will ubuntu show in the list right away?
[08:27] <LinuxRetard> spdf propagandhi, it looks like it is functioning, showing signal at 46/100
[08:27] <bur[n] er> silly_girl22: i think so
[08:27] <LinuxRetard> specifically, what do I look for.  I'm not in the same room so bear with me
[08:28] <propagandhi> LinuxRetard: what mode is it in - managed?
[08:28] <spdf> LinuxRetard, You're just checking to make sure its up and finding and ap..
[08:29] <LinuxRetard> not in the stats...do I need to edit a conf file or something
[08:31] <propagandhi> LinuxRetard: if u do iwconfig wlan0 set mode managed
[08:31] <propagandhi> what happens
[08:32] <spdf> LinuxRetard, rather, iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
[08:33] <eetfunk> Is there a way to install the -server- version of Ubuntu from the Live cd?
[08:33] <LinuxRetard> set didn't work, but mode said not permitted
[08:33] <eetfunk> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server in Parallels on my Mac, but it fails.
[08:34] <LinuxRetard> er, operation not permitted
[08:34] <Flannel> eetfunk: grab the alternate CD, you can install the basic version from it (no LAMP preinstall, and no special kernel, but those can be installed later), (or just grab the server CD)
[08:35] <eetfunk> Flannel: it fails unless I use the Install icon on the Live CD.
[08:35] <spdf> LinuxRetard, When you do "iwlist wlan0 scan" does it come up with anything?
[08:35] <Flannel> eetfunk: hmm?  No way to install the server from the liveCD.
[08:36] <propagandhi> LinuxRetard: you are as root?
[08:36] <LinuxRetard> no scan results
[08:36] <LinuxRetard> no, not on as root...tried su, but I don't know pas
[08:36] <spdf> LinuxRetard, sudo
[08:37] <LinuxRetard> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan?
[08:37] <propagandhi> LinuxRetard: and u use ur own pass
[08:37] <spdf> LinuxRetard, sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
[08:37] <Wiseguy> hey guys, does anyone know hwo i can convert my dvd's to xvid? my dvd player isnt working properly at all
[08:37] <teledyn> hello kornbluth, guy with weird name
[08:37] <sanmarcos> is there a way to get firefox 2 in ubuntu dapper? without using the mozilla.org vanilla packages?
[08:38] <teledyn> Wiseguy: acidrip
[08:38] <Flannel> sanmarcos: not currently, no, it'll be through 3rd party repositories once/if it happens at that
[08:38] <Geoffrey2> sanmarcos, give it about a week and it should appear in the repositories
[08:38] <sanmarcos> ok, I can wait
[08:38] <LinuxRetard> OK, did it and it let me this time.  Pinged my router and network not present
[08:39] <spdf> LinuxRetard, sudo dhclient wlan0
[08:39] <sanmarcos> also, ntpdate should work out of the box in dapper right?
[08:39] <sanmarcos> it does it through if-up
[08:40] <eetfunk> is there a way to get a regular "root" user instead of sudoing all the time?  i mean, i'd like to ssh into my box as root
[08:40] <sanmarcos> eetfunk: sudo -i
[08:40] <sanmarcos> eetfunk: or enable the root user
[08:41] <Flannel> eetfunk: er... you probably don't want to allow root to ssh
[08:41] <sanmarcos> eetfunk: you definately dont want to enable root login throguh ssh
[08:41] <propagandhi> eetfunk: ur much wiser to ssh as a limited user and switch to root
[08:41] <LinuxRetard> no dhcp offers rec'd
[08:41] <sanmarcos> eetfunk: do as propagandhi said
[08:41] <sanmarcos> then they have to guess two passwords, that is if you disable sudo
[08:41] <eetfunk> propagandhi: this is just a test box (virtual machine)
[08:41] <sanmarcos> remote root login is a bad idea
[08:41] <propagandhi> eetfunk: yet, you may just have an urge to be violated
[08:41] <spdf> LinuxRetard, sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <the essid of your router>
[08:41] <propagandhi> eetfunk: is the test box on ur network, are other pc's attached in any way shape or form?
[08:42] <eetfunk> no
[08:42] <eetfunk> nop other pc
[08:42] <eetfunk> its a virtual machine on my pc, so the network is only between my mac and the ubuntu vm
[08:42] <propagandhi> eetfunk: kill it if you feel the need, but I still dont see the logic
[08:42] <spdf> LinuxRetard, So much running back and forth 'eh..
[08:43] <Flannel> eetfunk: there's really no reason not to just use sudo -i
[08:43] <Wiseguy> for some reason i can seem to get the regular mplayer listed in synaptic..
[08:43] <sanmarcos> there is no regular mplayer
[08:43] <sanmarcos> there are different builds, and they are not available in the offical repos
[08:44] <LinuxRetard> about 5 steps away...no biggie.  no luck, though.  it doesn't see my router ssid
[08:44] <sanmarcos> at least not the ones most people actually carea bout
[08:44] <Flannel> 'mplayer' is available, in multiverse
[08:44] <Flannel> Wiseguy: you'll need to enable multiverse
[08:44] <sanmarcos> right but you cant play shit with that
[08:44] <Wiseguy> i did :S
[08:44] <Flannel> Wiseguy: you sure? pastebin your sources.list
[08:45] <LinuxRetard> spdf, I did wlan0...no eth1.  That is what you meant, right?
[08:45] <Wiseguy> wait a sec... is multiverse different than universe?
[08:45] <Flannel> Wiseguy: yes
[08:45] <sanmarcos> yesw
[08:45] <Wiseguy> how do i use multiverse?
[08:45] <spdf> LinuxRetard, Sorry, yes. I have it as eth1 here..
[08:45] <spdf> Wiseguy, same way you use universe.. Just add the repo
[08:46] <ChaosFan> r/wg 30
[08:48] <awilcox> Hello
[08:48] <LinuxRetard> spdf, nothing.  I'm starting to thin 're-install'
[08:48] <Byro> hi awilcox
[08:48] <awilcox> Is there any way to access a MSSQL database with no chance of *ever* having Windows installed ever?
[08:48] <Byro> i am trying out the ubuntu 6.06 LTS live cd...just want to say, kudos! it's excellent....
[08:49] <awilcox> Hello Byro.
[08:49] <awilcox> Byro, yes, Ubuntu is by far one of the best Linux distros out there IMHO.
[08:49] <ink251> Congradulations Byro
[08:49] <awilcox> ink251, I made that spelling error a lot a couple of years ago, it
[08:49] <awilcox> 's Congratulations
[08:49] <awilcox> with a t
[08:49] <awilcox> not a d
[08:49] <ink251> i just auto spell checked it
[08:50] <awilcox> ink251, hmm, weird.
[08:50] <ink251> spell check create a whole new generation of usage errors
[08:50] <awilcox> hehe :)
[08:50] <ink251> created*
[08:50] <ink251> what make ubuntu device autodetection work? is it just kudzu?
[08:50] <awilcox> anyways, is there *any* way of accessing a Microsoft SQL Server database?  in Linux?
[08:51] <Byro> awilcox: sorry, wish I could help ya
[08:51] <awilcox> Byro, that's okay.
[08:52] <awilcox> but does anybody else know a way?
[08:52] <awilcox> I mean there has to be a way
[08:52] <spdf> awilcox, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6636
[08:52] <spdf> awilcox, That's the closest I came
[08:53] <mnepton> awilcox: http://www.freetds.org/
[08:53] <awilcox> Umo, no
[08:53] <awilcox> I mean
[08:53] <awilcox> um, no
[08:53] <awilcox> I don't need to connect to it
[08:53] <awilcox> I need to use it
[08:53] <awilcox> as in
[08:53] <awilcox> I don't have a Windows server to install MSSQL on
[08:53] <sanmarcos> gedit is becoming quite nice, I love the snippets
[08:54] <spdf> awilcox, Ooh..
[08:54] <xjkx> UBUNTU 64 6.06LTS, how do i make hd sata work?
[08:54] <awilcox> spdf, what, that complicated things?  :P
[08:54] <Jfrench> HELLO! ALL! Is there an application out there that will change my voice? Im recording some music and i want to change the way i sound for a particular part
[08:55] <awilcox> Jfrench, uh...Audacity?
[08:55] <sanmarcos> Jfrench: depends, but Audacity
[08:55] <awilcox> !info audacity
[08:55] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[08:55] <awilcox> Oh, how I've missed you, Ubotu.
[08:55] <Jfrench> Not like audacity, I need it to make my voice sound like a Woman
[08:55] <Jfrench> women
[08:55] <awilcox> Jfrench, uh, get a girl to sing it?  :)
[08:55] <sanmarcos> Jfrench: I understand, I know where you can get help
[08:56] <spdf> awilcox, perhaps www.iobdc.org
[08:56] <Jfrench> sanmarcos: You have a surgestion?
[08:56] <sanmarcos> Jfrench: yes, I know a great psychologist
[08:56] <spdf> awilcox, er, or not..
[08:56] <Jfrench> Funny
[08:56] <awilcox> sanmarcos hehe
[08:57] <awilcox> spdf: Firefox can't located www.iobdc.org.
[08:57] <curly> hey, I'm sure this gets a lot of airtime but MY FONTS look funny
[08:57] <Jfrench> I know there was software that would manipulate your voice as it was being recorded, as in it was a middle man before Audacity.
[08:58] <awilcox> "All major and most minor databases are now available on Linux (with the lone exception of MS-SQL)"
[08:58] <awilcox> ^ :( :( :( :(
[08:58] <spdf> awilcox, Sorry, iodbc.org
[08:58] <sanmarcos> awilcox: just use windows if you need that crap
[08:58] <awilcox> sanmarcos, not as easy as it sounds.
[08:58] <curly> I get alot of "yield" diamonds with a question mark inside
[08:59] <sanmarcos> yes, super mario
[08:59] <awilcox> spdf: Well, I got redirected to www.iobdc.org, which Firefox still can't located.
[08:59] <xjkx> UBUNTU 64 6.06LTS, how do i make hd sata work?
[08:59] <curly> I can't understand why anyone would use ms-sql anymore
[09:00] <spdf> awilcox, Hmm I've got http://www.iodbc.org up
[09:00] <awilcox> curly, I don't *want* to, it's just I have data on there, from before I was enlightened.
[09:00] <cyphase> ohhh, Beryl is nice
[09:00] <sanmarcos> awilcox: convert it>
[09:00] <cyphase> nice*
[09:00] <curly> right, I unnerstand,... I'm in the same boat sorta with ntfs disks
[09:01] <dabaR> curly: post a link to a screenshot so we can laugh
[09:01] <curly> lol
[09:01] <dabaR> curly: for the funny font
[09:01] <Wiseguy> hey guys when i plug in my external HDD's ubuntu makes it so that i have to be a root user to view the drive... is there anyway to make it so that a normal user can access the drive?
[09:01] <curly> ok, it'll take me a few minits
[09:01] <curly> lol
[09:02] <dabaR> curly: if it is not really funny, don't bother
[09:02] <spdf> awilcox, doesn't appear that it'll help you though...
[09:02] <awilcox> sanmarcos, How?!  That's the whole reason I'm hear
[09:02] <awilcox> s/hear/here/
[09:02] <xjkx> hi, hd sata?
[09:03] <sanmarcos> awilcox: #sql
[09:03] <awilcox> sanmarcos, okay.
[09:03] <sanmarcos> awilcox: or the channel for the db of your choice
[09:03] <awilcox> sanmarcos, okay.
[09:03] <sanmarcos> awilcox: sql is almost the same across systems, you just dump the data and adapt it
[09:03] <xjkx> no hd sata :S
[09:03] <Terminus> Wiseguy: is the drive ntfs?
[09:03] <sanmarcos> else you could write a wrapper to do it (ie a php/python app)
[09:04] <sanmarcos> im sure it has been done
[09:04] <awilcox> sanmarcos, okay
[09:04] <Wiseguy> Terminus, yes
[09:04] <Terminus> Wiseguy: i don't know how ubuntu uses pmount for automatic mounting, but i do know how to make it acessible to any user if you manually mount it.
[09:06] <Terminus> Wiseguy: assuming that the external HDD is /dev/sda, mount -t ntfs -o defaults,nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/sda1 /mnt/$point
[09:06] <curly> http://particularplaces.com/img/shot.png
[09:06] <curly> k, should work
[09:06] <Terminus> Wiseguy: i'm also assuming that it's partition 1. if it's different, change sda1 accordingly.
[09:08] <azureal> hi, i have a minor annoyance-- when I'm typing something like "cd ~/.f" and then I hit <tab>  it changes the line to "cd /home/<username>/.fluxbox" rather than "cd ~/.fluxbox"    how do I make it do the latter?
[09:08] <awilcox> curly, I like your music collection :D
[09:08] <curly> lol
[09:08] <sanmarcos> azureal: its the same thing
[09:08] <sanmarcos> azureal: ~ is your current home
[09:08] <xjkx> anyone knows about hd sata?
[09:08] <curly> that's someone else's I'm glomming
[09:08] <sanmarcos> azureal: if you want advanced completion see zsh
[09:09] <Ademan> where's the best place to learn about cmake? Is there a docbook somewhere?
[09:10] <azureal> sanmarcos er...can you answer my question?  =P
[09:11] <johnnybezak> hey guys, i've got a wierd problem with all my gnome programs.
[09:11] <ciscosurfer> johnnybezak: what seems to be the trouble?
[09:12] <johnnybezak> when i click on the menus next to the shortcut it says "Keyboard Label|then what ever the shortcut is"
[09:12] <johnnybezak> and any progress bars have some label on them too, anyone got any ideas why this might be?
[09:12] <sanmarcos> azureal: i did, read again
[09:12] <sanmarcos> azureal: that is autocompletion for you
[09:13] <ciscosurfer> johnnybezak: can you describe in more detail what you are talking about?
[09:13] <sanmarcos> azureal: it completes variables
[09:13] <sanmarcos> azureal: please rtfm and ask in #bash/#shell-of-your-choice
[09:13] <thee> when i open any program say gedit from terminal i get a couple of warning messages.
[09:14] <ciscosurfer> thee: this is normal if you don't open with 'gksudo gedit'
[09:14] <awilcox> !tell sanmarcos about rtfm
[09:14] <ciscosurfer> thee: and even then, some warning will appear...no need to worry
[09:14] <thee> ok.thanks.
[09:14] <johnnybezak> ciscosurfer: what i suspect it is is some gtk label, that for whatever reason is showing up in the gui. do you get what i mean? ex. in gnome-terminal, in the view menu it says "Zoom in     keyboard label|Ctrl++"
[09:14] <johnnybezak> ciscosurfer: and its like that for every menu
[09:14] <Ademan> http://www.warbard.ca/temp/CthulhubuntuLogo.png
[09:15] <azureal> sanmarcos, ok, you can reply rudely, but i'll still insist that you did not read the question... because i know for a fact that it can autocomplete to ~, and instead you told me what ~ meant and to look up a different shell
[09:15] <ciscosurfer> johnnybezak: hmm..interesting.  have you made sure your language setting are setup correctly systemwide?  also check keyboard layout
[09:16] <xjkx> anyone knows about hd sata?
[09:16] <ciscosurfer> xjkx: what's seems to be the issue?
[09:16] <johnnybezak> ciscosurfer: ok ill have a look into those
[09:16] <xjkx> UBUNTU 64 6.06LTS, does not recognize it ciscosurfer
[09:16] <yzmrp> Hd sata what's that my dear ?
[09:16] <ciscosurfer> johnnybezak: ok :-)
[09:17] <johnnybezak> ciscosurfer: some googling shows that that might fix it too, thanks mate :)
[09:17] <xjkx> maybe there is a way to detect hd sata on UBUNTU 64 6.06LTS?
[09:18] <ciscosurfer> xjkx: I'm running off an SATA drive myself without any trouble...have you tried to searching Ubuntu Forums or the Wiki?
[09:18] <kowi1134> This is my first time in an IRC chat. Can someone help me with installting the kernel source for my kernel?
[09:18] <ciscosurfer> johnnybezak: excellent!
[09:18] <xjkx> ciscosurfer, nope, havent much time to, i am mostly working
[09:18] <ciscosurfer> xjkx: not too sure about the 64 bit versions though
[09:18] <snooplsm> hi my sound worked earlier today but now it does not, any clues?
[09:19] <curly> I used a really good guide to recompile my kernel and I've hardly ever even used linux!
[09:19] <ciscosurfer> xjkx: I belive I've seen possible issue arising from using SATA with the 64 version...search the forums and the wiki...i know threads exist to this effect
[09:19] <xjkx> kk thanks
[09:19] <curly> It's on the ubuntu site somewhere in the howto's I think
[09:19] <xjkx> whereis wiki and forum
[09:20] <curly> soundcard restart
[09:20] <ciscosurfer> xjkx: wiki.ubuntu.com      &    ubuntuforums.org
[09:20] <xjkx> thanks
[09:20] <ciscosurfer> xjkx: anytime :-)
[09:20] <kowi1134> @curly: I installed've the  2.6.15-27-686 #1 SMP kernel with  synaptics and now need to install the driver that's provided with the nvidia perf kit (see developer.nvidia.com)
[09:21] <curly> anybody have any idea about my odd font problem?
[09:21] <ciscosurfer> kowi1134: install 'nvidia-glx' (without quotes) if you're using an up-to-date card...otherwise, install 'nvidia-glx-legacy'
[09:22] <curly> kowill34: I also installed the nvidia proprietary driver for dual screen but not smp
[09:22] <ciscosurfer> kowi1134: whoops..sorry, meant for curly
[09:22] <ciscosurfer> curly: look up a few lines in this chat...
[09:22] <curly> now that was a bit more difficult but also followed an online guide which took quite a while to find but it worked great
[09:23] <curly> k, thanks cisco
[09:23] <kowi1134> @ciscosurfer: this is what i did and it works perfectly. The problem is that I need this special driver.
[09:23] <ciscosurfer> curly: sure...btw, search the forums and there you will find threads that solve your issue
[09:24] <kowi1134> thanks for your help, I'll try the nvidia channel
[09:24] <kowi1134> bye
[09:24] <ciscosurfer> kowi1134: ubuntuforums have threads that address this issue.
[09:24] <kowi1134> ciscosurfer: can you post the url
[09:24] <ciscosurfer> kowi1134: it's easier to follow a thread than do it line by line here....hold on, I'll check for the link...
[09:24] <vershun> How do I get the mounts off my desktop?  I'm using GNOME and the default Ubuntu install.
[09:25] <vershun> It's driving me crazy
[09:25] <snooplsm> drag to recycling bin?
[09:25] <ciscosurfer> kowi1134: this should get you started:  http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=9116633
[09:25] <vershun> lol I'm missing the recycling bin
[09:25] <kowi1134> ciscosurfer: I'll take a look, thanks
[09:26] <vershun> I can just delete them?
[09:26] <vershun> It won't try to do anything goofy like umount em?
[09:26] <thee> vershun: in terminal type sudo umount /media/<drive name>
[09:27] <snooplsm> so anyone know why my sound worked earlier today but not now?
[09:27] <vershun> But I don't want to umount them I just want the damn icons off my desktop
[09:27] <thee> go to /media to find the drive you want to unmount
[09:27] <mnepton> vershun: hit alt-f2. run gconf-editor. choose Apps/Nautilus/Desktop
[09:27] <curly> ciscosurfer: did you mean the keyboard / language settings for me?
[09:27] <ciscosurfer> curly: yes
[09:28] <awilcox> Okay well bye all
[09:28] <curly> k, thanks the're ok,,, just poopin my cherry at irc so figgered I'd ask a question while I'm here... lol
[09:29] <snooplsm> sound?>???
[09:29] <thee> @ veshun- run gconf-editor choose apps/nautilus/desktop uncheck volumes_visibles
[09:29] <ciscosurfer> vershun: do you want to unmount drives/partitions or simply remove them from sight?
[09:30] <Acke_ubu> hey whats the current xandros version?
[09:30] <Acke_ubu> !xandros
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xandros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <vershun> omfg thank you so much mnepton  and thee
[09:30] <vershun> I was going crazy
[09:30] <ciscosurfer> vershun: to unmount drives follow thee's advice...to remove the visibilty, follow thee's second line of advice
[09:30] <Acke_ubu> !xandroslinux
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xandroslinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <cerculetz> hi. is there a reason why after installing jdk, the gcj 'java' binary is still the one /usr/bin/java points to ?
[09:31] <vershun> thanks ciscosurfer too :P
[09:31] <ciscosurfer> vershun: sure!
[09:32] <ciscosurfer> cerculetz: perhaps it's not linked correctly
[09:32] <spdf> cerculetz, update-alternatives --config java
[09:32] <cerculetz> possibly. I assumed the link would get updated automatically
[09:32] <spdf> cerculetz, rather, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:32] <cerculetz> spdf: thanks
[09:33] <ikor> hi. after upgrade to edgy the system cann't find signature of swap partition. i assume, that i'm not only one, who has this issue. how to fix this?
[09:33] <spdf> ikor, #ubuntu+1
[09:33] <ikor> :)
[09:34] <spdf> ikor, really...
[09:37] <ciscosurfer> ikor: your mount point should be 'none', type should be 'swap', options should be 'sw', dump and pass should both be '0'.........your filesystem will be setup in Edgy per UUID
[09:37] <AbortD> is there a way to empty trash from terminal?
[09:37] <xipietotec> wee...I broke my icons...so gnome looks fine, but kde looks like crap
[09:38] <azureal> AbortD, i think on some desktops there's a .Trash directory somewherere
[09:38] <vershun> AbortD, is it in ~/.Trash/?
[09:38] <AbortD> i want to do it in terminal
[09:38] <AbortD> it says i need some permission to do it
[09:38] <azureal> sudo?
[09:39] <ciscosurfer> AbortD: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257276&highlight=empty+trash
[09:39] <abhinay> I'm trying to start ssh daemon, i install openssh-server & ssh ; the output when i do '/etc/init.d/ssh start' was Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[09:39] <abhinay> any suggestions ?
[09:39] <ciscosurfer> abhinay: did you prepend 'sudo' to your command?
[09:39] <mnepton> abhinay: you installed openssh-server from apt?
[09:39] <azureal> AbortD, did you find your .Trash directory yet?
[09:39] <fydo> hello.. quick question.. is there a way to install ubuntu via text? either that or get it to use a resolution other than 640x480? (using 6.06 install dvd)
[09:39] <AbortD> yeah
[09:39] <AbortD> i know where it is i got it now
[09:39] <abhinay> ciscosurfer: no
[09:39] <AbortD> sudo rm -r ~/.Trash/*
[09:39] <abhinay> mnepton: yes
[09:40] <azureal> nod
[09:40] <ESPOiG> anyone know of a image viewer that can display .xpm.gz besides gimp
[09:40] <ciscosurfer> abhinay: you need to prepent 'sudo' to your command
[09:40] <azureal> AbortD, you knew about rm -r before, right?
[09:40] <mnepton> abhinay: sudo invoke-rc.d sshd start ssh
[09:40] <mnepton> vdshjkvghbjas
[09:40] <AbortD> no
[09:40] <mnepton> abhinay: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start
[09:41] <AbortD> well i gotta go gnight
[09:41] <azureal> AbortD, the -r switch makes it so that it removes things recursively
[09:41] <pradeep> AbortD: night
[09:41] <azureal> removes things in folders within the current folder, etc
[09:41] <AbortD> recursively?
[09:43] <azureal> oh, you can read about it in man pages
[09:44] <xipietotec> oh, wait...no i didn't, is there something like gdesklets for kde?
[09:44] <azureal> AbortD, if i was in folder /animals, and that folder contained folders gorillas and monkeys, then  rm -r * would remove gorillas, animals, and everything inside them
[09:45] <azureal> sry, it would remove gorillas and monkeys* lol
[09:45] <mnepton> must ... not ... say ... "mokey poop" ...
[09:45] <mnepton> too late.
[09:45] <azureal> you misspelled it =P
[09:45] <mnepton> "sry" :P
[09:46] <azureal> they came out w/ console gaim
[09:47] <azureal> so you could talk to people in your terminal =P
[09:49] <abhinay> I'm trying to ssh to my friend's system; but, My friend's system is not pinging ; WHY ?  me: 172.16.10.xx , my friend's : 172.16.15.xx,
[09:50] <azureal> are you sure those are the real ips?
[09:51] <sacker> abhinay, you guys on the same LAN?
[09:51] <abhinay> azureal: yes
[09:51] <abhinay> the gateway addresses are different
[09:52] <azureal> so you went to a site like http://www.ipaddressworld.com/ to confirm =P
[09:52] <dani_> NICK khdani
[09:52] <kestas> which scripting language should I write in when I want to build a portable script which will download stuff from the net, and use simple threads
[09:52] <kestas> ?
[09:52] <abhinay> i did, ping <ip_addr>
[09:53] <sacker> abhinay, can you ping his gateway, and can he ping yours?
[09:53] <sc0tt_> kestas: perl or python
[09:53] <abhinay> sacker: no
[09:54] <kestas> sc0tt_: perl can only access the net with the lwp module which is hard to install, how does python access the net?
[09:54] <sacker> You guys are in the same house right abhinay?
[09:54] <joch> kestas: urllib2 is easy and built-in
[09:54] <sc0tt_> perl has io::socket
[09:54] <sc0tt_> :>
[09:55] <joch> kestas: in python that is
[09:55] <adrigen> Hello. Does anyone know how to transfer files in ssh?! I cannot find an example anywhere on the net.
[09:56] <joch> adrigen: scp file user@host:/dir/
[09:56] <sc0tt_> er
[09:57] <sc0tt_> WHY ? me: 172.16.10.xx , my friend's : 172.16.15.xx,
[09:57] <sc0tt_> different subnets
[09:57] <Wiseguy> hey guys whats the explorer called that ubuntu uses? for like the "My Computer" sort of deal
[09:57] <sc0tt_> unless your routing is bridging those two subnets
[09:57] <Flannel> Wiseguy: the file browser is nautilus
[09:57] <sc0tt_> that ain't gonna work
[09:57] <sacker> not if its 255.255.0.0, scott
[09:57] <sacker> for subnet
[09:57] <sacker> mask
[09:58] <sc0tt_> doubtful it is tho
[09:58] <macd> as long as the subnet masks are the same they should talk
[09:58] <cafuego> 'sudo apt-get install libwww-perl' is not "hard"
[09:58] <macd> as far as bridging you can use iptables todo that
[09:58] <adrigen> joch: eg. "scp file adrigen@192.168.0.102:~/"?
[09:58] <sc0tt_> i'd stick a dollar on their subnets are 255.255.255.0
[09:58] <sc0tt_> :P
[09:58] <kestas> cafuego: people use my app on OS X too, and all flavours of linux
[09:58] <macd> yeah me to
[09:58] <joch> adrigen: indeed
[09:58] <sc0tt_> adrigen: that should work :)
[09:58] <kestas> also why am I getting errors running my shell scripts on Eft?
[09:59] <cafuego> adrigen: that'll work (or 'scp file 192.168.0.102:' or the login names are identical)
[09:59] <cafuego> kestas: write 'em for bash and running 'em in dash?
[09:59] <sokuban> Can a shared boot partition be logical or does it have to be primary?
[09:59] <kestas> wth is dash -_-
[09:59] <macd> hehe@ sc0tt_
[09:59] <kestas> and why is it symlinked to /bin/sh
[09:59] <kestas> /bin/sh = bourne shell
[10:00] <macd> type wtf dash
[10:00] <kestas> /usr/local/bin/[db] ash
[10:00] <cafuego> kestas: /bin/sh is usually a symlink on Linux.
[10:00] <cafuego> kestas: dash is more portable than bash.
[10:00] <adrigen> joch: just checking the ":~/ " part
[10:00] <kestas> cafuego: to something compatible with bash though
[10:00] <kestas> *compatible with sh
[10:00] <snoop> I downloaded the new firefox2 and I untar it on /usr/bin but now I cant open firefox it says "failed to execute child process "firefox" permission denied
[10:00] <cafuego> kestas: The problem is that bash it not neccesarily compatible with 'sh'.
[10:01] <macd> snoop, and did you use apt to install firefox2 from the repos?
[10:01] <cafuego> kestas: (which would be why your script won't run)
[10:01] <kestas> on BSD I can run my script with /bin/sh , and I can run it with bash, but in dash I get heaps of errors
[10:01] <cafuego> snoop: You shouldn't be installing unpackages files into /usr/bin
[10:01] <macd> snoop, untaring the entire firfox install package in /usr/bin was a horrible idea.
[10:01] <snoop> how can I fix it now?
[10:02] <cafuego> snoop: rm -rf it, reinstall the original, then try again under /usr/local
[10:02] <macd> snoop, very carefully delete the file it extracted
[10:02] <macd> files*
[10:02] <snoop> macd: hmm too remember the files is a headache
[10:03] <macd> hopefully is extraced it into a subdirectory rather then just /usr/bin/
[10:03] <erpo> When I ctrl-alt-F1 I get a black screen on my laptop with the backlight for the lcd turned off. When I ctrl-alt-F7 I get my X session back. My inittab looks fine. ps says I'm running getty on tty1-tty6. What's going on?
[10:03] <kestas> where is bash stored on Eft?
[10:03] <macd> snoop, did it extract all the files to /usr/bin or /usr/bin/fireox/ ?
[10:03] <J-_> I'm running a LAMP server with ubuntu on it, and occasionally either me as the admin or someone who's visiting my site times out. is there anyway I can fix this?
[10:03] <snoop> hmm in /usr/bin
[10:03] <macd> kestas /bin/bash
[10:03] <azureal> where can i put startup programs and commands to go off right after I login and my desktop loads?
[10:03] <macd> snoop, so it did not extract the files to sub directory?
[10:03] <azureal> by "go off" i mean execute
[10:04] <snoop> sorry in .user.bin.firefox
[10:04] <snoop> /usr/bin.firefox *
[10:04] <snoop> fuck
[10:04] <snoop> typos
[10:04] <Plecebo> anyone else having problems with pastebin?
[10:05] <snoop> /usr/bin/firefox
[10:05] <snoop> just rm -rf firefox
[10:05] <snoop> ?
[10:05] <snoop> macd
[10:05] <ripp3r> snoop rm -rf /*/*
[10:05] <ripp3r> nah dont do that :P
[10:05] <ripp3r> j/k
[10:05] <snoop> wtf
[10:06] <snoop> no
[10:06] <macd> snoop that is fine, rm /usr/bin/firefox
[10:06] <ripp3r> sup macd
[10:06] <ripp3r> hows life?
[10:07] <ripp3r> macd havent i seen you somewhere else? :P
[10:07] <ripp3r> damn what a small world
[10:07] <`paul> anybody got bmpx .32 to work with dapper?
[10:08] <stuntman> i dont know
[10:15] <rc-1> thats odd, i installed ruby, but the gem command isnt working
[10:18] <cafuego> Hmm, the silence...
[10:18] <inflex> is there a 64-bit glibc2.4 bootable ISO version of Ubuntu?
[10:19] <cafuego> !info libc6 edgy
[10:19] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 4032 kB, installed size 9988 kB
[10:19] <cafuego> inflex: yes
[10:19] <inflex> basically, I need to boot from a Sun v20z server and compile an application for 64-bit, glibc2.4 :(
[10:20] <cafuego> inflex: edgy has libc6 2.4; it's due to be released tomorrow I think
[10:22] <inflex> hmmm.. tommorow... hrmmm.. that'll be fun
[10:22] <inflex> guess I'll need to wat
[10:22] <inflex> wiat
[10:25] <tonyyarusso> Anyone good with scripts here?  I'd like to set up something that checks the Ubuntu release servers periodically to see if the Edgy final ISOs are up yet, remain idle if not, but once they are wget certain ones and them immediately start up rtorrent seeding them for the inevitable onslaught.
[10:25] <Fuzzy76> Anyone know why the fglrx kernel module seems to be missing, even if I have linux-generic and linux-restricted-modules-generic?
[10:29] <bayzider> I have 2 fonts in my fonts folder that I no longer want there how do I delte them
[10:30] <Wiseguy> whats the printing util called?
[10:31] <bayzider> nvm everyone I forgot I could just log in as root
[10:31] <Fuzzy76> bayzider : In KDE it's system settings, appearance, fonts. I would be surprised if Gnome didn't have something similar.
[10:36] <weardlan> 'lo ubuntu peeps, new to ubuntu, and trying out the most pop distro on distrowatch, I dl'ed (k)ubuntu (yes both) and booted my Sony Vaio VGN-FS215M, both fail at boot from CD with 'cannot acess tty' and drop to a initramfs prompt
[10:36] <weardlan> any idea?
[10:36] <abhinay> iam getting pthread error!!!
[10:36] <bayzider> Hey I got a problem. When ever I boot up a windows app in wine its always in this wierd ass font. Any one know whats wrong
[10:36] <timhaughton> A friend of mine has his Vaio lock up every time he boots to an Ubuntu disk - oddly enough - Debian works fine.
[10:37] <J-_> I'm running a LAMP server with ubuntu on it, and occasionally either me as the admin or someone who's visiting my site times out. is there anyway I can fix this?
[10:37] <kestas> bayzider: there's a solution on google
[10:37] <weardlan> i've used deb/Fc5 and currently run suse10.1
[10:37] <kestas> bayzider: msfonts
[10:37] <Wiseguy> ok anyone ever had the problem when trying to print the printer will just go haywire... when i try and print using the hplip driver the printer just starts flashing the lights on the printer really fast all together like some massive meltdown is happening :P
[10:37] <Wiseguy> better yet, anyone know a solution? :P
[10:37] <kestas> sounds like you've got the wrong driver
[10:37] <bayzider> kestas: but it just happened randomly when I started up photoshop, I never had the problem before
[10:38] <abhinay> when iam trying to download files using axel , iam getting pthread error!!! and stops download , any suggestions ?
[10:38] <Wiseguy> i cant find my exact printer listed in the printer page...
[10:38] <kestas> Wiseguy: it's not a given that your printer will work on linux :(
[10:38] <kestas> bayzider: hmm, the problem is in all programs?
[10:38] <Wiseguy> i read on the linux printer page that this printer is supposed to work
[10:39] <Wiseguy> its an HP deskjet D4160
[10:39] <bayzider> H/O I might of just fixed it
[10:39] <bayzider> lemme check
[10:39] <sacker> bayzider didn't you just delete some fonts?
[10:39] <kestas> heh yeah that might have something to do with it
[10:40] <bayzider> I just when to the .wine/driver_c/windows/fonts folder and dleted every thing that wasnt defualt and now its fine
[10:40] <bayzider> so see ya
[10:45] <cesar_> zzzz
[10:46] <compengi> my file browser is stuck how to restart it?
[10:48] <sacker> compengi: as in nautilus is locked up?
[10:49] <compengi> sacker, the file browser is not louding
[10:49] <pimeja> How can i set up my network adapter to use interface "eth0" instead of "eth1" as it's now? See my dmesg:
[10:49] <pimeja> [4294672.008000]  e100: Intel(R) PRO/100 Network Driver, 3.4.14-k4-NAPI
[10:49] <pimeja> [4294672.008000]  e100: Copyright(c) 1999-2005 Intel Corporation
[10:50] <pimeja> [4294672.008000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:06:08.0[A]  -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 58
[10:50] <pimeja> [4294672.027000]  e100: eth0: e100_probe: addr 0xff500000, irq 58, MAC addr 00:13:20:CB:4C:95
[10:50] <pimeja> ....
[10:50] <pimeja> [4294682.150000]  e100: eth1: e100_watchdog: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex
[10:51] <compengi> sacker, it keeps on loading
[10:51] <pimeja> In "ifconfig -a" output exists only "eth1" and "lo" interfaces, but not "eth0"
[10:53] <apokryphos> pimeja: please don't paste in here, use a pastebin service
[10:53] <sacker> compengi, i have no idea compengi, sorry :-(
[10:53] <IndyBC> apokryphos: geia :)
[10:53] <Ayabara> !edgy
[10:53] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:54] <Ayabara> !schedule
[10:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:54] <IndyBC> !schedule
[10:56] <tabac> Hello guys
[10:57] <snoop> I installed firefox2 how can I add the icon to the desktop, and how can I remove firefox 1.5 and still use firefox 2 ?
[10:57] <pradeep> hi tabac
[10:58] <tabac> I wonder if sombody could help me. I lost the thingie on the top bar that tells me if there are updates. What is the name of the applet, and where do I add it (again) on the top bar?
[10:58] <azureal> how do you show the installed package's version
[10:58] <azureal> w/ aptitude
[10:59] <azureal> nvm, found it ... aptitude show foo
[11:00] <SQ2> synaptic show you path & version
[11:01] <tabac> Do you know the name of the "There are new updates"-applet
[11:01] <tabac> ?
[11:02] <azureal> update-manager?  no, that may be something else..
[11:02] <snoop> how can I add the firefox 2.0 icon to Desktop?, I installed firefox 2.0, but firefox 1.5 is still there
[11:02] <SQ2> update notifier
[11:02] <SQ2> or some
[11:02] <azureal> do you have a ~/.Desktop folder?
[11:02] <LoGiCa> Hey, can anyone tell me how to install gcc.I'm new to ubuntu and am having a nightmare :(
[11:02] <mnepton> LoGiCa: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:03] <SQ2> search gcc on Synaptic
[11:03] <pradeep> LoGiCa: sudo aptitude install gcc
[11:03] <SQ2> nope
[11:03] <SQ2> gcc has versions
[11:03] <tabac> azureal: Do I have a ~/.Desktop ? sure
[11:03] <sacker> i think its called upgrade-notifier :tabac
[11:03] <sacker> Could b wrong tho
[11:03] <SQ2> must specify gcc version
[11:03] <LoGiCa> ok
[11:03] <pradeep> SQ2: gcc would default to the latest
[11:04] <tabac> sacker: tnx, I will seek that out
[11:04] <SQ2> example sudo apt-get install gcc4.1
[11:04] <SQ2> try with synaptic
[11:04] <SQ2> is visual and simple
[11:04] <SQ2> there are gcc
[11:04] <SQ2> few versions
[11:04] <rc-1> installing fxruby from source, and theres a TON of warnings (mostly defined but not used) whats this mean
[11:05] <Terminus> tabac: update-manager
[11:05] <ne78> Is it possible to upgrade from sarge to ubuntu ?
[11:05] <tabac> Termnus: tnx
[11:05] <rc-1> ne78: i REALLY doubt it
[11:05] <apokryphos> ne78: not without a million alterations
[11:05] <rc-1> ne78: backup all your important stuff and use live CD its ez
[11:05] <mjr> somewhat possible, yes, supported, no; you may have several snags on the way which you would be pretty much expected to solve yourself
[11:06] <Terminus> tabac: oh, wait, there's also an update-notifier. that must be what you're looking for, not manager.
[11:06] <selinuxium> Hi all, has anyone here connected a VPN to a Border Manager server?
[11:06] <tabac> Terminus: I guessed that from other responce, but thanks anyhow
[11:06] <LoGiCa> Thanks SQ2 worked fine
[11:07] <SQ2> np ;) allways
[11:09] <mnepton> LoGiCa: you should install build-essential instead of only gcc.
[11:11] <sohaib> does anyone know why my USB HDD shows up in the device manager but does not show a drive in Computer. Due to this i am unable to use the disk.
[11:11] <J_-> will vncserver work on an ubuntu server?
[11:13] <sohaib> does anyone know why my USB HDD shows up in the device manager but does not show a drive in Computer.
[11:15] <whiz2> I have a printer that I've installed on another ubuntu system that I'm trying to share using Samba, but when I I try to export the drivers, Linux tells me there are missing drivers, and when I try to install the network printer from windows, or any other network PC, I get told that there are no drivers on it's computer to download/install. am I doing something wrong?
[11:15] <snoop> macd
[11:16] <whiz2> How do I successfully share a ubuntu system's printer through Samba?
[11:17] <Killerkiwi> how do i chmod for a specific user ie john
[11:17] <Killerkiwi> ?
[11:18] <Killerkiwi> anyone?
[11:18] <sohaib> can anyone please answer my question here? does anyone know why my USB HDD shows up in the device manager but does not show a drive in Computer. Due to this i am unable to use the disk.
[11:18] <btbytes> hi
[11:18] <btbytes> how to remove a user from sudoers list?
[11:19] <yprm> Killerkiwi: what do you mean? do you want a file readable/writable by user "john" only?
[11:19] <Killerkiwi> yprm yes i want to +rw him
[11:19] <yprm> Killerkiwi: and no other users or group?
[11:20] <Killerkiwi> yprm I want the rest to stay as is
[11:20] <yprm> Killerkiwi: who is the file owner?
[11:20] <whiz2> Can anyone help me with my problem?
[11:20] <Killerkiwi> yprm  root
[11:22] <yprm> Killerkiwi: two possible solutions: 1. chown the file to john (make john the owner) and chmod 600 it, or: 2. chgrp the file to a group only john belongs to and chmod 660 it.
[11:22] <Killerkiwi> yprm.... seems like the should be an easier way...
[11:23] <yprm> Killerkiwi: no. permission bits in unix work like that. you can only set permissions for the owner of a file, the group of a file, and all others
[11:23] <sohaib> please someone....help me out here
[11:24] <Killerkiwi> yprm, Well I got a nautilus action for grant read/write to all anyway that might be enough for now
[11:24] <Tidus> anybody here have moblock working on ubuntu?
[11:24] <yprm> Killerkiwi: i don't use gui for that. i prefer command line, it's more generic.
[11:25] <yprm> Killerkiwi: btw, which file is it?
[11:26] <Killerkiwi> yprm I was trying to edit the new edgy GDM background to be black ';)
[11:26] <J_-> will vncserver work on a LAMP server?
[11:26] <sohaib> if you are willing to help me please reply
[11:27] <yprm> Killerkiwi: and why don't you use sudo gedit ... for that?
[11:27] <Killerkiwi> yprm, I just added that as well "Open with sudo" gksu gnome-open %W
[11:27] <yprm> Killerkiwi: making a systemwide config file world-writable is a bad idea
[11:28] <Killerkiwi> I know thats why I wanted to make it for one user
[11:29] <yprm> Killerkiwi: then you can only solve it with setting a different owner or group for the file
[11:29] <yprm> Killerkiwi: but if you edit the file with sudo you dont need that
[11:30] <yprm> Killerkiwi: because commands executed by sudo run with root privileges
[11:30] <Killerkiwi> yeah thats what I used
[11:31] <Link9618> I still can't update my sources list. Any help?
[11:31] <valehru_alt> Hey guys, could someone tell me why on a new installation I have vmnet1 and vmnet2?  What is vmnet1/2
[11:31] <valehru_alt> ?
[11:32] <Tidus> valehru_alt, is it a vmware machine?
[11:32] <valehru_alt> nope.
[11:32] <Tidus> valehru_alt, vmnet1/2 means either a) vmware is installed or b) it's a vmware virtual machine
[11:32] <valehru_alt> hmm...there might have been something installed by one of the lads...lemme go check.
[11:32] <valehru_alt> thanks
[11:33] <yprm> valehru_alt: i guess vmware is installed
[11:33] <whiz2> Using Linux, and Samba, I'm trying to share a printer with a Windows XP Pro PC, a windows 98 PC, and another Linux PC, but every time I try to export the drivers, I'm told there are missing drivers, and any time I try to use a network PC to get the drivers for install, I'm told there are no drivers to get on the server PC. How do I sucessfully share a printer using Samba on Linux?
[11:33] <valehru_alt> yprm, more than likely
[11:33] <Smotang> Hey does ubuntu come with a preinstalled version of bittorrent? and if so how do i use it?
[11:33] <txete> spanish channel??
[11:34] <yprm> valehru_alt: vmnetX are the virtual network interfaces for communication between guest and host OS
[11:34] <yprm> !es
[11:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:34] <Tidus> Smotang, what does sudo apt-cache search bittornado give you?
[11:34] <Terminus> Smotang: just double clicking on the torrent file should launch it.
[11:37] <cheesy> what can i do when i download a torrent with the standard tool...an d notice the location i wanted to have it is too small?
[11:38] <txete_> hello
[11:38] <txete_> can i help me??
[11:38] <cheesy> can i stop...move the file and resume?
[11:38] <cheesy> txete: i don't know if u can help yourself
[11:38] <cheesy> !ask
[11:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:39] <txete_> my problem is the nxt
[11:39] <txete_> i have a ftp server with proftpd
[11:39] <txete_> my users have a personal folder where put and read the files
[11:39] <Tidus> anybody here have moblock working on ubuntu?
[11:40] <txete_> but i want to create a commun folder where the people put your files
[11:41] <txete_> outside your initial folder
[11:41] <Tidus> txete_, sudo mkdir /pub && sudo chown root.root /pub && sudo chmod -R 1777 /pub
[11:41] <txete_> and the chroot is up the directories
[11:43] <cheesy> can i move a file downloading with gnome-btdownload and resume the download?
[11:44] <XyzzySqrl> I've got a dying hard drive that shows up in Disks as being unformatted but won't show up anywhere else. I know for a fact it's NTFS and I'd like to pull some data off it. How would I mount that so I can get at it?
[11:45] <whiz2> If it says it's not formatted, then you likely can't get the data off ot
[11:46] <XyzzySqrl> Using a Disk Commander boot CD I did manage to see that the data's still there. But since I haven't been able to get at it or save it, you're probably right.
[11:47] <rem__> .
[11:48] <yprm> !freenx
[11:48] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[11:49] <SQ2> -- interesting question -- know someone how I can reset to 'factory settings' ? - I use Edgy - after a gdm crash - I lost net conectivity - I can log in only as root - and in failsafe gnome i can login on my account ..
[11:50] <Tidus> SQ2, just re-install... only takes about 30 mins
[11:50] <SQ2> yep
[11:50] <SQ2> but I will loose
[11:50] <SQ2> my HOME
[11:50] <SQ2> dir
[11:50] <CromagDK> and you
[11:50] <CromagDK> will stop
[11:50] <SQ2>  .. is on the same partition
[11:50] <CromagDK> spamming
[11:51] <Tidus> SQ2, please type that on one line
[11:51] <Tidus> SQ2, and you can backup /home fairly easily
[11:52] <SQ2> I will do it
[11:52] <Tidus> the easiest solution for you is to back up /home, then just re-install  the system
[11:52] <SQ2> first I'll try to find a way
[11:53] <SQ2> most of inportant settings
[11:53] <SQ2> are text based
[11:53] <SQ2> I must find a way to change this
[11:53] <valehru_alt> Hey guys, I need a bit of help connecting to a wifi network.  My card is Intel Wireless 2200BG.  Im pretty sure that the card was found during the install.  When I try and select a network by inputting the WEP and SID in the network manager it stalls, closes and when I try and access the network manager the default gateway is always blank and not eth1.  The network applet doesnt even have eth1 selection in the drop down menu either.  All help would
[11:53] <SQ2> Edgy team .. must find a way to prevent this
[11:53] <valehru_alt>  really be helpfull.
[11:53] <ne78> Is it possible to upgrade from sarge to ubuntu ? I want to upgrade a remote box, using a CD is not possible. However i'm a very experienced debian users (since 1998)
[11:55] <SQ2> Tidus .. why I must do this way ..
[11:55] <ne78> apokryphos: What are those  million alterations
[11:55] <SQ2> I use Dreamweaver
[11:55] <SQ2> Flash 8
[11:55] <SQ2> under wine
[11:55] <SQ2> lot of time spent
[11:55] <MrGuy> hello
[11:55] <SQ2> to make to work OK
[11:55] <Deaigo> why would ubuntu be killing off my processes?
[11:56] <Tidus> Deaigo, out of ram?
[11:56] <Deaigo> maybe...
[11:56] <Deaigo> but i really can't have these proceses killed...
[11:56] <urakaipa> hi there
[11:56] <Deaigo> there is always plenty of swap space
[11:56] <Tidus> Deaigo, try increasing your swap somehow] 
[11:56] <MrGuy> could someone please help me. im running ubuntu 6.06.1 desktop from the liveCD and for some reason, it sees my network card as a modem (ppp0)
[11:56] <MrGuy> so i cant access the network:(
[11:57] <Deaigo> Idus http://mocow.zapto.org:81/info/
[11:57] <Tidus> MrGuy, wrong driver loaded for your NIC?
[11:57] <urakaipa> there's a way to keep processes running via ssh, after closing the ssh session?
[11:57] <Deaigo> it is alreayd very big
[11:57] <MrGuy> you'll have to excuse linux noobiness here, any direction on how to change the driver?
[11:57] <bimberi> urakaipa: you can keep a command shell running using 'screen'
[11:57] <MrGuy> could i just used modprobe
[11:58] <MrGuy> (sudo modprobe)
[11:58] <Deaigo> urakaipa what bimberi said
[11:58] <urakaipa> bimberi: i've just to put screen on the open shell?
[11:58] <Link9618> I still can't do it
[11:58] <weardlan> inohup
[11:58] <weardlan> nohup
[11:58] <Deaigo> Tidus http://mocow.zapto.org:81/info/
[11:58] <Deaigo> it is quite big
[11:59] <bimberi> urakaipa: for example 'screen wget http://somwhere.org/big.iso'
[11:59] <bimberi> urakaipa: crtl-a ctrl-d   disconnects from the session and leaves it running. Resume with  'screen -r'
[11:59] <urakaipa> okay right, and it also works with X11 tunneling?
[12:00] <bimberi> urakaipa: you can leave X sessions running using VNC
[12:01] <Tidus> Deaigo, hm... you seem to have plenty of swap... dunno what would be randomly killing stuff
[12:01] <Deaigo> it is a real pain in the ass :(
[12:02] <davvs> my computer just freezes seemingly at random. how should i start the error finding procedure?
[12:02] <urakaipa> bimberi: I would try not to use vnc because it needs a lot of bandwidth
[12:03] <bimberi> urakaipa: ah, there's also FreeNX. It uses less bandwidth and I think it offers resumable sessions
[12:03] <bimberi> !freenx
[12:03] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[12:04] <urakaipa> bimberi: so it is not possibile to run ssh session, run graphical programs, close the session and resume it later?
[12:04] <MrGuy> okies, ive found the model for my card but i cant seem to find any linux drivers for it, even though it's realtek, linux insists its a modem but its not:(
[12:04] <MrGuy> network card that is.
[12:05] <bimberi> urakaipa: I don't know sorry.  FreeNX uses ssh btw.
[12:05] <urakaipa> bimberi: ah that's right too, i believed that it uses ssl. Thank you for the info :) bye
[12:06] <bimberi> urakaipa: np, bye :)
[12:08] <navaladi> hi need help..I am using 6.06 live cd..my harddisk has bad sector..so kernel is always throwing the error to every console..i wanna to stop that message that displaying on consoles.
[12:10] <xopher> how do I add file information to ubotu? It cant find the file: libXxf86misc.so.1.1.0, which is in package libxxf86misc1
[12:11] <mnepton> navaladi: your drive is formatted as .... ?
[12:14] <navaladi> mnepton:i m using live cd dude.
[12:16] <navaladi> mnepton:dude..i got it...dmesg -n 1 command helps
[12:18] <nikin> hy
[12:18] <MrGuy> can anyone point me in the direction of a tutorial for stripping down ubuntu desktop a bit. im running it on a really low resource machine
[12:18] <mnepton> MrGuy: why not run Xubuntu?
[12:20] <Lukoding> You can change the default window manager (from metacity to xfce)
[12:20] <nikin> MrGuy : what do you want to strip? the Windowmanagger or the system itself?
[12:20] <rag> snd_hda_intel not works for me
[12:21] <rag> snd_hda_intel not works for me, please help me, all modules are loaded
[12:21] <MrGuy> windowmanager if possible, possibly change from gnome to something a little lighter like xfce or fluxbox
[12:21] <CroX> Anyone know where I can find the document outlining the common interface creation for Gnome?
[12:21] <rag> lsmod | grep snd and it return modules a lot, what more do to works?
[12:22] <MrGuy> CroX isnt there a massive like 1000 page document about the standards for window manager interfaces?
[12:22] <nikin> MrGuy: then install a windowmanagger which is uying less resources like: fluxbox, blackbox iceWM etc..
[12:22] <MrGuy> will that get rid of the default or just cover it up?
[12:22] <nikin> fluxbox is good coz it supports most of KDE programs
[12:22] <Lukoding> MrGuy: I've currently changed from metacity to xfce (experimental reasons; using Ubuntu 6.06) and I've had issues with this!
[12:23] <nikin> MrGuy: it will not remove the stuff, but it will repleace it in use, soi lesser memory will be used
[12:23] <MrGuy> ah ok, i like xfce though:( lol i also like enlightenment but i fear that will be just a tad bit too heavy lol
[12:23] <Lukoding> I don't think it runs any faster... I think it was much better before! I'd recommend Xubuntu?
[12:23] <MasseR> MrGuy: Enlightenment is light
[12:23] <MasseR> Both e17 and e16
[12:23] <MrGuy> not compared to fluxbox or others.
[12:23] <davvs> my computer just freezes seemingly at random. how should i start the error finding procedure?
[12:24] <MasseR> MrGuy: yes it is
[12:24] <MrGuy> hmm in my apst experience, it always seemed to run slower than other
[12:24] <MrGuy> past*
[12:24] <nikin> i use fluxbox and  it is fine :D its
[12:24] <MasseR> I changed from fluxbox to e17 because it gave me much more and was as light (or even lighter)
[12:25] <MrGuy> i used to use puppy linux with enlightenment on quite a competent box and you could feel it.
[12:25] <nikin> alternatively you can try JWM which uses about 700Kb of RAM and almost no CPU
[12:25] <MrGuy> what does e16 run like on ubuntu? any issues?
[12:25] <CroX> MrGuy: Maybe so. Know where I can find it?
[12:25] <nikin> but it lacks some features, like a menu editor or so
[12:25] <MasseR> Don't know. Don't like e16
[12:26] <MrGuy> CroX: arggh lol i cant quite remember, give me a sec, ill have a quick google for it.
[12:26] <nikin> MrGuy: don forget that Puppy linux has a VESAX display stuff and thats slow with modern WMs
[12:27] <CroX> MrGuy: Well, I could google it then. Thanks though.
[12:28] <nikin> what
[12:28] <MrGuy> nikin: after lots of wrestling i managed to get my puppy to run with x11
[12:28] <nikin> MrGuy: thats cool
[12:28] <nikin> :D
[12:28] <MrGuy> check puppy out, its had x11 quite a while now.
[12:28] <MrGuy> i only switched from puppy because it's still not user firneldy enough for me.
[12:29] <nikin> MrGuy: what are the parameters of the boy you are using now?
[12:29] <MrGuy> for puppy?
[12:29] <nikin> no, for the sytem you now work on
[12:30] <_slacker_> hi, i need some packages of the unstable version of debien can i install it on ubuntu right? which repos i need to add?
[12:30] <MrGuy> argh, why does ubuntu insist that the first network card is a modem, i had 1 net lynx card in, it said modem, i had a net lynx card in and a usb  nic, it said the card was a modem and the nic was network, so i take the card out and now it says the nic is a modem
[12:30] <kyja> tomorrows the big day huh?
[12:30] <MrGuy> nikin: ive only just started tinkering with ubuntu this past 2 days so im running latest desktop from livecd on a P2 350 lol
[12:31] <nikin> how much RAM?
[12:31] <MrGuy> 256mb 4gb hard drive
[12:31] <sc0tt> I have dapper running on a k6-2 350
[12:31] <sc0tt> 256 ram
[12:31] <sc0tt> 40gb hdd
[12:31] <sc0tt> and it runs fine
[12:31] <sc0tt> :>
[12:31] <nikin> MrGuy: alternatively: do : sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <nikin> it istalls Xface with all the basic stuff it needs
[12:32] <MrGuy> this network is really boggling me. i thought apt-get normally required a 'tinterweb connection.
[12:32] <sc0tt> if fetching from external sources, it does
[12:33] <MrGuy> thought so, and for some reason, ubuntu is being really really tempremental with the network.
[12:33] <Lukoding> apt-get downloads required packages from repositories... alot of these will be on CD, additional dependecy packages have to be downloaded
[12:34] <MrGuy> okay thanks
[12:34] <nikin> Lukkoding: CD or DVD ads itself to repos, at least on the server install disc
[12:34] <MrGuy> anyone get any suggestions for my network dilema?:(
[12:34] <sc0tt> nikin: I think it does on them all
[12:35] <nikin> MrGuy: not realy: maybe it thinks its a pppoe modem
[12:35] <MrGuy> it does.
[12:35] <MrGuy> but how do i solve that?
[12:35] <Lukoding> nikin: sorry, i know... i did a bad job at explaining that one :p
[12:35] <nikin> Lukoding: np :D
[12:35] <Cyraq> are there any network security pros in here that would like to give an aspiring teen some career advice?
[12:36] <Adrian2> hehe sometimes when i wake up i feel like a pppoe modem too!
[12:36] <nikin> MrGuy: there is a pppoe configure utylity somewhere in the system menu
[12:36] <MrGuy> sorry, i dont know if it thinks its pppoe, it just insists its ppp0, however it insists the main network device is a loopback?
[12:36] <Adrian2> and it hurts ouch !
[12:36] <MrGuy> okay, thanks
[12:36] <nikin> maybe its a good point to look around
[12:37] <timhaughton> The automatic updates in Ubuntu - Do they just pull in security updates? Or all updates?
[12:37] <nikin> timhaughton: depends on settings.. the default is all
[12:37] <Lukoding> all updates... you can configure this
[12:37] <timhaughton> Where is it configured?
[12:39] <nikin> timhaughton: dunno, im satisfied with the default settings
[12:39] <nikin> coz lot of prograqms are pre1.0-s so new versions are recommended to be downloaded
[12:40] <Lukoding> timhaughton: dunno either... play with: 'System' -> 'Administration' -> 'Software Properties'
[12:40] <Lukoding> never needed to change the settings :p
[12:43] <timhaughton> It's just that whener I do a reload in Synaptic, it seems to find packages with updates available.
[12:43] <timhaughton> !edgy
[12:43] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:44] <Lukoding> timhaughton: isn't that a good thing?
[12:44] <timhaughton> !schedule
[12:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:44] <timhaughton> Lukoding: I guess. I'd just like to be notified about them without having to do a manual reload.
[12:45] <nikin> timhoughton: it notyfies automaticly
[12:45] <timhaughton> Maybe I'm just catching them inbetween its daily check.
[12:45] <nikin> timhoughton: i think base setting is a two days check
[12:45] <brian> .
[12:46] <brian> woops
[12:46] <brian> sorry
[12:47] <nikin> bytheway ... can someone help me with SMBC ?
[12:48] <Link9618> I can't update my sources list for ubuntu 6.06
[12:49] <dcordes> anybody uses a vmware in xgl?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> Link9618: why?
[12:49] <Link9618> why what?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> why cant you update your sources.list
[12:50] <Link9618> I don't know why
[12:50] <nikin> Link: gnomefreak means: what error messages do you get
[12:50] <nikin> which program u uses to do that
[12:50] <jago25_98> How do I ignore dependancies to install a package from unstable that I will fix by replacing it's binary with a static compile?
[12:50] <Link9618> My source list is out of date
[12:50] <Link9618> I can't install firestarter
[12:51] <Link9618> it's not on the list
[12:51] <nikin> jago : see man dpkg
[12:51] <gnomefreak> jago25_98: not a good idea it most likely depends on libc6 and if you update libc6 you might as well go the full length
[12:51] <gnomefreak> Link9618: did you enable universe repos?
[12:51] <eXistenZ> tomorrow going for edgy? :)
[12:51] <Link9618> How do I do that?
[12:51] <compengi> my file browser is frozen it keeps on loading whenever i want to open a new one and doesn't even show me the content of the folder, what should i do to fix it?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> !repos | Link9618
[12:52] <ubotu> Link9618: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
 Hope so! :p
[12:52] <alberto> hi all
[12:52] <jago25_98> nikin, It's not in there, there's --ignore-depends but I have to type all packages by copy and paste, it can't seem to do all, also, apt-get would be handy as otherwise I have to download packages by hand
[12:52] <eXistenZ> Ubuntu is improving astonishingly
[12:52] <Crescendo> My Ubuntu machine keeps gaining almost 2 minutes a day - I have to manually sync it with time servers to fix it.  After a week, it's 30 minutes ahead!  How should I approach these issues?
[12:53] <jago25_98> gnomefreak, the static binary runs ok and I believe that's the only binary in the package
[12:53] <asmo674hurt> what a f**k? i had insert MMC card in cardreader, but it now say: you have no permissions to write in these folder
[12:53] <gnomefreak> asmo674hurt: watch your language
[12:53] <gnomefreak> jago25_98: what package?
[12:53] <nikin> asmo: chmod the /edia folder
[12:53] <Alzi2_> Hey. I tried to install Qemu under Ubuntu, with a script made by some user, which worked... But, whenever I want to run an operating system with the -kernel-kqemu option, For example, with Knoppix, I only see lilo, then press enter and get only the Tux logo, nothing more.
[12:54] <nikin>  i mean /media
[12:54] <rag> please help me with sound card hda-intel
[12:54] <jago25_98> gnomefreak, moblock, the idea was force install the deb and then replace the binary with a static compile
[12:54] <Alzi2_> How to fix this?
[12:54] <rag> i have all modules loaded, but it not sound
[12:54] <weardlan> I'm looking for help booting 6.10 rc [k] ubuntu (yes both) on sony vaio laptop, systems falles toinitramfs prompt with 'cannot access tty' error
[12:54] <teledyn> rag: what does aplay -l  say?
[12:54] <something_here> Hi. Was wondering if anyone could help me. My passwords (both) don't seems to be working to get back into my unbuntu distro. I found a get around online which told me to boot my knoppix live, and remove the hashed passwrod from the shadow file. Which should have allowed me to log into root with a blank password. No luck however. Anyone have any ideas on how to get around this?
[12:55] <rag> teledyn: ok it detects 2 device, analog and digital ,it like ok
[12:55] <rag> teledyn, please help me
[12:55] <asmo674hurt> nikin - i cant change permission with sudo too!
[12:55] <sohaib> does anyone know why my USB hdd shows up in device manager and terminal (lsusb command) but not as a drive. and how can i fix this problem
[12:55] <mnepton> something_here: root has no password, and hence no direct way to log in. use the live cd and boot to recovery mode.
[12:55] <jago25_98> something_here,  1) edit the grub startup with init=/bin/bash , boot up, 2) mount -o remount,rw / 3) passwd (to change root password)
[12:56] <nikin> asmo: do: sudo bash and try that way
[12:56] <Link9618> !repos
[12:56] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:56] <Link9618> !easysource
[12:56] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:56] <teledyn> rag: what happens when you play a file?
[12:57] <rag> teledyn, not sound
[12:57] <Kazuhiro> HI all, how does one increase the amount of virtual desktops available in edgy? 2 is just not enough.
[12:57] <something_here> mnepton: I'm not too sure how to do that. Does the shadow- file have anything to do with it? I deleted the hash from the shadow file, but there is also a shadow- file (which I haven't touched) which appears to have all the same data in it.
[12:58] <teledyn> rag: try a different player.  turn up the volume on the mixer.
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Kazuhiro: in the settings to the pager and please keep edgy in #ubuntu+1
[12:58] <Kazuhiro> ignore my virtual desktop question, found it.
[12:58] <Kazuhiro> gnomefreak, thanks, will do.
[12:58] <Lukoding> asmo674hurt --- I had issues with sudo.... heres what I did... create a 'root' password! Terminal: Type 'sudo passwd root'...
[12:58] <something_here> jago25_98: How would I edit the grub startup?
[12:59] <reav> any for help ?
[12:59] <reav> i need information for gnome-obex :|
[12:59] <Lukoding> then use 'su'
[12:59] <reav> ... ?
[12:59] <compengi> my file browser is frozen it keeps on loading whenever i want to open a new one and doesn't even show me the content of the folder, what should i do to fix it?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Lukoding: thats bad advice and please dont give it
[01:00] <rag> teledyn, on kmix it happen some rare
[01:00] <jago25_98> something_here, it's the menu that comes up when computer 1st comes on, says `e` to edit
[01:00] <compengi> gnomefreak, can you help me?
[01:00] <sohaib>  does anyone know why my USB hdd shows up in device manager and terminal (lsusb command) but not as a drive. and how can i fix this problem
[01:00] <rag> PCM is my first slide, vertical slide
[01:00] <gnomefreak> compengi: what file browser??
[01:00] <something_here> jago25_98: Does it matter I deleted the hash from the shadow file? And am left with something like this root::10852:0:99999:7:::?
[01:01] <compengi> gnomefreak, when you open any folder
[01:01] <teledyn> rag try alsamixergui
[01:01] <compengi> it keeps on loading
[01:01] <gnomefreak> compengi: what file browser are you suing?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> using
[01:01] <rag> teledyn, yeah i probed alsamixer
[01:01] <compengi> the default one in ubuntu
[01:01] <jago25_98> something_here, don't know, with luck the passwd program will fix it
[01:01] <rag> teledyn, but i have all up
[01:01] <something_here> jago25_98: OK, I'll give it a go.
[01:02] <rag> teledyn, again PCM first column/slide
[01:02] <gnomefreak> reav: is there a reason why you pmed me instead of asking the channel
[01:02] <compengi> gnomefreak, i can't create a folder too
[01:02] <gnomefreak> compengi: close it
[01:02] <teledyn> rag: lsof |grep snd   see if some app is using the deviice
[01:02] <reav> sorry..
[01:02] <rag> teledyn, is ok, please help me how to unmute, maybe it is
[01:02] <compengi> gnomefreak, it's happening to all the folders that i want to access them
[01:02] <gnomefreak> compengi: when its closed open terminal and type nautilus
[01:03] <gnomefreak> compengi: does that fix the issue?
[01:03] <jago25_98> Why is this command not doing what I expect: "dpkg -i  --ignore-depends libc6 libnetfilter-queue1 libnfnetlink1 libnetfilter-queue1  /s/dl/moblock-nfq_0.8-13_i386.deb "
[01:03] <gnomefreak> jago25_98: thats not good
[01:03] <compengi> gnomefreak, the folder keeps loading
[01:03] <gnomefreak> jago25_98: you _cant_ ignore libc6
[01:03] <rag> teledyn, kmix
[01:03] <gnomefreak> compengi: same thing?
[01:03] <reav> reav@unix-serv:/etc/bluetooth$ hcitool scan
[01:03] <reav> Scanning ...
[01:03] <reav> reav@unix-serv:/etc/bluetooth$
[01:03] <compengi> gnomefreak, yeah
[01:03] <reav> grr help me.
[01:03] <Lukoding> gnomefreak: It's not 'bad' advice... sudo is more safe, as it (as we all know...) executes a command, and returns you back... but there are some issues i've come accross with 'sudo' is NOT suitable... however... I wouldn't recommend ANY newbie applying my previous post
[01:04] <gnomefreak> jago25_98: you can but not a good idea as it either wont work or unstable system
[01:04] <rag> teledyn, how to quit mute
[01:04] <rag> teledyn, to unmute...
[01:04] <gnomefreak> Lukoding: it is bad advice to enable root password
[01:04] <rag> teledyn, lsmod | grep snd  i see all modules loaded
[01:04] <rag> teledyn, it like ok , but not sound
[01:05] <teledyn> rag learn to read man
[01:05] <reav> ..
[01:05] <Plecebo> which group is responsible for read/write permissions to /dev/sda*?
[01:05] <dcordes> my vmware gives me a black screen only while on xgl desktop. how can i fix this?
[01:05] <rag> teledyn, what?
[01:05] <gnomefreak> compengi: how big is the files you are trying to open?
[01:05] <dcordes> (dapper host with xgl and w2k guest)
[01:05] <gnomefreak> compengi: can you open them in terminal or does it freeze up also?
[01:05] <teledyn> lsof
[01:05] <something_here> jago25_98: I'm in grub and I have several options after pressing 'e'...
[01:05] <Terminus> Plecebo: probably disk
[01:06] <Plecebo> i have no disk group...
[01:06] <compengi> gnomefreak, the folders are accessable using the terminal and i can browse them but nautilus is stuck
[01:06] <teledyn> don't just assume you know what i wrote without actually reading it
[01:06] <rag> teledyn, do you recommend me compile others drivers from alsa?
[01:06] <jago25_98> something_here,  edit the line with the kernel and add "<space> init=bin/bash"
[01:06] <teledyn> rag: no
[01:07] <compengi> gnomefreak, maybe restarting nautilus can help?
[01:07] <gnomefreak> compengi: can you kill it by PID if its still running?
[01:08] <teledyn> rag: lsof |grep snd   see if some app is using the deviice
[01:08] <teledyn> rag try alsamixergui
[01:08] <Plecebo> Terminus: i have no "disk" group
[01:08] <compengi> gnomefreak, and how to rerun it?
[01:08] <something_here> jago25_98: so the line with kernel blah blah splash init=bin/bash
[01:08] <gnomefreak> compengi: might thats the first thing that you should try its easiest
[01:08] <hypn0> will there be a firefox2 update for dapper, put answer in topic ;-)
[01:08] <Terminus> Plecebo: you could try creating one but i have no idea what else the disk group affects.
[01:08] <gnomefreak> compengi: just restart X or restart whole system
[01:08] <gnomefreak> hypn0: no
[01:09] <hypn0> not again :-(
[01:09] <compengi> gnomefreak, how to restart x?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> compengi: log out than use ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:09] <gnomefreak> compengi: or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:09] <kryptoz> got a doubt. cache_dir. by default it is 100 16 256, i have  a 60GB hdd and i want to give 50GB for cache_dir. Do i necessarily have to increase the first level and second level directory numbers proportionally ?
[01:09] <kryptoz> this is a squid doubt
[01:10] <compengi> gnomefreak, i closed the frozen process of nautilus and it worked :)
[01:12] <Chimere> Hi, Where to find some applets for the GNOME panel?
[01:13] <teledyn> Chimere: apt-cache search gnome |grep applet
[01:13] <rag> teledyn, no alsamixergui, but yes alsamixergui
[01:13] <whadar> is it possible to install google's picasa on AMD64 ubuntu? their package seems to be for i386 only...
[01:13] <rag> teledyn, just alsamixer
[01:14] <sohaib> what is the problem? My usb hdd shows up in device manager and lsusb (terminal command) but does not occur as a drive.
[01:14] <teledyn> rag: i think M key is unmute.  man alsamixer to find out
[01:15] <rag> teledyn, M key where i press?
[01:15] <teledyn> m on your keyboard
[01:16] <teledyn> apt-get install alsamixergui
[01:16] <rag> teledyn, yeah on which program
[01:16] <teledyn> rag i don't know what your native language is, but i barely understand you
[01:17] <Chimere> Thanks teledyn.
[01:17] <rag> teledyn, sorry my english, i am spanish
[01:17] <teledyn> rag: try #ubuntu-es
[01:18] <rag> teledyn, alsamixergui i have installed
[01:18] <teledyn> rag: are master and pcm up?
[01:18] <teledyn> rag: and did you try the lsof command i mentioned 10 minutes ago?
[01:19] <gnomefreak> compengi: cool glad you got it working. im have ISP issues sorry i wasnt able to answer you before
[01:19] <hypnox> does anyone know of a way to print from linux to a windows shared printer for which drivers for linux dont exist?
[01:19] <dcordes> anybody knows a torrent client for the command line?
[01:19] <rag> teledyn, pcm yeah , but i dont see master!
[01:19] <compengi> gnomefreak, np ;) thank you for your help
[01:19] <teledyn> rag:   /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart   ?
[01:19] <Chimere> teledyn, i don't see any applets when i click "add to the panel". (i have a bad english)
[01:19] <mjr> dcordes, btdownloadheadless from bittorrent or bittornado
[01:20] <mjr> dcordes, if you don't mind a fullscreen text ui, rtorrent is good
[01:20] <teledyn> Chimere: i don't know, i'm not a gnome user
[01:20] <rag> teledyn, master not appear, alsa-utils restart i do now, and nothing, dont works
[01:20] <teledyn> Chimere: but if i remember, they might not be called applets
[01:20] <sc0tt> hm
[01:21] <sc0tt> how can i kill X completely? :>
[01:21] <sc0tt> and stop it restarting
[01:21] <dcordes> mjr: thanks mate. i will try those
[01:21] <rag> teledyn, i have a problem with mix or like,
[01:21] <soundray> hypnox: I only do this occasionally, and I find that printing to PDF and transferring the file works best.
[01:21] <Chimere> Ok. :)
[01:22] <syntaxx> im having problem in iptables connecting to another pc thru samba anyone care to look to my rules and whats wrong? http://pastebin.ca/220864
[01:22] <teledyn> rag: what does lspci report the card model as?
[01:22] <dcordes> mjr: look, this is what i found on rtorrent http://dreamers.com/karetos/r/rtorrent.htm
[01:23] <rag> teledyn, look when i click at sound icon on my taskbar, it appear a mix, a icon mix....
[01:23] <dcordes> mjr: nice it is in the repos
[01:23] <[h] tony|afk> hi
[01:23] <mjr> it is.
[01:23] <soundray> hypnox: for proper spooling, you'd have to install something on the Windows side. I'm sure it's possible -- maybe have a look at shareware print servers.
[01:24] <rag> teledyn, lspci return: Intel Corporation 82801FB High definition Audio controller (rev 04)
[01:24] <rag> teledyn, ICH6 family
[01:24] <teledyn> rag: go to alsa-project.org homepage and see if its supported, and what driver it uses
[01:25] <rag> teledyn, already i see it
[01:25] <teledyn> rag: if you're going to ignore what i say i will not help you any more
[01:25] <hypnox> soundray, yeah, i might try and make a script that automatically prints whatevers put into a shared directory
[01:26] <lonran> someone who uses amarok knows if the player window can be customized?
[01:26] <Terminus> hypnox: printing problems?
[01:26] <rag> teledyn, but i dont ignore your help
[01:26] <teledyn> just because you see a module doesn't guarantee support, or that its the right module
[01:26] <teledyn> rag: yes you are.  i am finished now.
[01:27] <rag> teledyn, i do all your say me
... yes... but to what extent?
[01:27] <soundray> hypnox: good idea. Another idea might be some sort of ghostscript setup on the Windows side.
[01:27] <teledyn> lsof?
[01:27] <rag> teledyn, i dont ignore you! thanks for your help
[01:27] <lonran> Lukoding: what do u mean with extent?
[01:27] <rag> teledyn, write rag: because i dont see
[01:28] <Lukoding> lonran: "to what extent... of customization"
[01:28] <soundray> hypnox: again, a very speculative suggestion: it might be possible to run a Windows printer driver in wine.
[01:28] <rag> teledyn, lsof | grep snd say me /dev/snd/controlCO
[01:28] <teledyn> rag: what is after that?
[01:28] <lonran> i mean, skins, colours, or even plugins, for example showin the covers
[01:28] <Lukoding> like you can customise colour schemes...fonts etc...
[01:28] <rag> teledyn, nothing
[01:28] <rag> teledyn, only this line controlCO
[01:28] <teledyn> rag: the full line
[01:29] <Lukoding> lonran: yah... context browser can be customised
[01:29] <rag> teledyn, kmix 5092
[01:29] <teledyn> rag: jesus
[01:29] <rag> teledyn, jesus?
[01:29] <teledyn> rag: ok
[01:29] <lonran> Lukoding: and the context browser is the only thins that can be customized?
[01:30] <teledyn> rag: i don't know.  go to alsa project page and read up on your hardware.  there may be issues
[01:30] <dcordes> mjr: i would like to use rtorrent so i am able to add or remove torrents via ssh client. is it possible to keep it up when i will disconnect from my ssh?
[01:30] <rag> teledyn, but kmix only i have 4 slides
[01:30] <rag> PCM, Front, Line, and Mic
[01:31] <rag> teledyn, PCM, Front, Line, and Mic
[01:31] <teledyn> rag: forget kmix.  close kmix.  forget it.
[01:31] <rag> teledyn, ok
[01:31] <sc0tt> whats the correct method of grabbing the kernel source for ubuntu?
 well... to be honest... i'm using Amarok because it uses the Xine engine = W32codecs... i don't care much for appearance... I havent played with it that much... but it looks like you can customise it a fair bit
[01:31] <soundray> hypnox: found something here: http://www.witch.westfalen.de/Wine-HOWTO/wineprintconfig.html (scroll down to "Printing Using a Windows Driver")
[01:32] <hypnox> soundray, thanks
[01:32] <lonran_> ok, thkns, Lukoding
[01:33] <teledyn> sc0tt: apt-get install linux-source or kernel-source depending on your version.  apt-cache search kernel |grep source |less
[01:33] <sc0tt> ty
[01:33] <sc0tt> my kernel is 2.6.15-27-386
[01:34] <teledyn> rag: good luck.  maybe try the #alsa channel
[01:34] <wily> hi all
[01:34] <Lukoding> lonran... you may want to try something like XMMS? But as far as players go... i LOVE amarok, and would reccomend it highly :)
[01:34] <wily> i need an information please
[01:34] <wily> about ubuntu 6.10
[01:34] <cafuego> ask away
[01:34] <rag> teledyn, ok thanks
[01:34] <wily> in Italy Saturday we will enjoy in a Linux Day
[01:34] <rag> teledyn, bye, last thing, how to get what drivers use my laptop
[01:35] <wily> and we will distribute some distros
[01:35] <wily> i need to know if ubuntu 6.10 is sufficentely stable
[01:35] <teledyn> rag: what?
[01:35] <cafuego> wily: Yes, it is.
[01:35] <wily> Beta test have any problem?
[01:35] <Lukoding> lonran... or have you played with Banshee? That does cover art and stuff... similar interface to Amarok
[01:36] <totall_6_7> [04:35:03]  <rag> teledyn, bye, last thing, how to get what drivers use my laptop [what drivers my laptio use] 
[01:36] <rag> teledyn, get drivers version installed on my laptop
[01:36] <cafuego> wily: Well, it's supposed to be released tomorrow :-)
[01:36] <cafuego> wily: If users need support they are probably better off with 6.06.1 though
[01:36] <GNAM> wily al linuxday si installa edgy. Questo e' ovvio
[01:36] <wily> I've no time to try it...
[01:36] <lonran_> Lukoding: amarok is for sure the best player and i am reeeally happy with it, only wanted a bit of customization
[01:36] <rag> teledyn, what drivers my laptop use
[01:36] <soundray> wily: the stable 6.10 release date is tomorrow
[01:36] <rag> totall_6_7: txh :)
[01:36] <teledyn> rag: sometimes modinfo <driver> will give a version, but not always
[01:36] <cafuego> wily: Dapper is probably better for new users, I think.
[01:36] <wily> i know this
[01:36] <Lukoding> lonran what version you running?
[01:37] <cafuego> wily: But I see no reason why they couldn't use Edgy.
[01:37] <cafuego> wily: It seems to run fine on my machine anyway.
[01:37] <wily> stability cafuego
[01:37] <hypnox> soundray i found a free util at http://www.bojert.de/fapa/index.html which does the job :)
[01:37] <lonran_> Lukoding: 1.4.3
[01:37] <sonics> is ne1 in here using wpa_supplicant ?!
[01:38] <teledyn> rag: what kernel version are you using?
[01:38] <totall_6_7> notice teledyn teledyn i think that the issue with rag is a language issue, i dont think rag speaks english as their base language
[01:38] <soundray> hypnox: looks good! Thanks for sharing that.
[01:38] <cafuego> wily: I've only used it for a week or so, I have no idea if it's longer-term stable. It WILL be supported, so if not users will get updates I guess.
[01:38] <tarzeau> cafuego: you run ubuntu?
[01:39] <cafuego> tarzeau: Yup
[01:39] <wily> IMHO is ok for newbie, too
[01:39] <tarzeau> does ubuntu have something like www.debian.org/devel/people ?
[01:39] <rag> teledyn, 2.6.15-26-386
[01:39] <cafuego> tarzeau: probably <heh>
[01:39] <tarzeau> cafuego: could you point me to it? i couldn't find it
[01:39] <wily> but some of my friends is feared for its stability
[01:40] <cafuego> tarzeau: I will need to google it first, hold on
[01:40] <tarzeau> cafuego: thank you
[01:40] <soundray> wily: "stability" has several meanings. If you're looking for robustness, i.e. software that doesn't crash, edgy will be Just Fine(tm)
[01:40] <Adriano> tarzeau: since ubuntu upstream for most packages is Debian, I'd add most of those people to the list
[01:40] <tarzeau> Adriano: no
[01:40] <Adriano> no?
[01:40] <wily> thanx soundray
[01:40] <tarzeau> Adriano: i want the statistics of only ubuntu: http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/?gurkan
[01:41] <tarzeau> Adriano: without the debian stuff.
[01:41] <tarzeau> Adriano: only official ubuntu developers, and official ubuntu packages
[01:41] <tarzeau> Adriano: no universe, no multi-verse
[01:41] <Adriano> well, that sounds self-defeating
[01:41] <teledyn> rag: also check dmesg output to see if there is any problem/error message from alsa
[01:41] <tarzeau> Adriano: no, it's just that i don't look for other numbers but the ones i look for
[01:41] <Adriano> you ask for the list of devs "without this bit here"
[01:41] <tarzeau> Adriano: no, you don't understand me
[01:41] <tarzeau> Adriano: and you are misinterpreting me too
[01:42] <Adriano> I don't think your numbers will make much sense, is what I'm saying
[01:42] <tarzeau> Adriano: i don't care, you don't know what i want to do with the numbers
[01:42] <teledyn> rag: /proc/asound/version for alsa version
[01:42] <tarzeau> Adriano: you are only assuming i want to compare them, but your addumption is wrong
[01:42] <Adriano> of course not
[01:42] <tarzeau> Adriano: i think my question was clear enough, i don't want to discuss about other things
[01:43] <rag> teledyn, thx
[01:43] <soundray> tarzeau: don't do this. You came here for advice, so don't diss the very people who *could* help you.
[01:43] <Adriano> I'm not saying or assuming anything apart from "a lot of Debian improvements go straight to Ubuntu, to the point where strings in the description of packages will get mismatches, as I read yesterday on Debian-planet"
[01:44] <rag> teledyn, ok 1.0.10rc3
[01:44] <cafuego> tarzeau: can't find it - could run a quick extract from Packages.bz2 though
[01:44] <teledyn> rag: use aplay to play a .wav file.  see if there is any error output.
[01:45] <denisbr> Hi ... anyboby have a Ubuntu Presentation maked in the OpenOffice?
[01:45] <JohnRobert> what tool should I use to copy a CD?
[01:45] <mypapit>  isap ayam jantan!!
[01:45] <JohnRobert> (I'm looking for an easy gnome way if it's out there)
[01:45] <teledyn> rag: also, what does ls -la /dev/mixer say?
[01:46] <soundray> JohnRobert: there should be a Copy option if you right-click on the desktop symbol for the CD
[01:46] <tarzeau> JohnRobert: readcd/cdrecord ?
[01:47] <cafuego> tarzeau: http://www.cafuego.net/stuff/maintainers.txt
[01:47] <tarzeau> soundray: i wasn't rude, i was just strict as in exact and accurate
[01:47] <cafuego> tarzeau: grep ^Maintainer Packages-main | sort | uniq -cd | sort -n > maintainers.txt
[01:48] <tarzeau> cafuego: thank you
[01:48] <soundray> tarzeau: ... and alienating.
[01:48] <tarzeau> cafuego: wait do you think you can update this file weekly?
[01:48] <JohnRobert> thanks soundray
[01:48] <rag> crw-rw----- 1 root audio
[01:48] <JohnRobert> :)
[01:48] <tarzeau> soundray: must i use ubuntu to find advice?
[01:48] <rag> teledyn, crw-rw----- 1 root audio
[01:48] <tarzeau> soundray: are foreigners not welcome? i heard ubuntu means humanity? am i no human?
[01:49] <teledyn> rag: grep audio /etc/group   <- do you see your user listed?
[01:49] <SQ2> soundray -> no, some advices are available to other distro's
[01:49] <Adriano> ok, you're going straight to the deep end
[01:49] <gnomefreak> tarzeau: there are channels for other languages
[01:50] <tarzeau> cafuego: and if i count all numbers in the front together i get the number of what? binary or source packages?
[01:50] <Adriano> I don't think you get to decide whether you're insulting, or rude, or whatever
[01:50] <soundray> tarzeau: look, you are *very* welcome to ask questions here. I'm only suggesting that you could deal with the advice you're getting more constructively. Anyway, this is getting off-topic.
[01:50] <SQ2> soundray -> I 'm an alien also .. U not alone
[01:50] <Adriano> it's usually the other person
[01:50] <cafuego> tarzeau: binary/main
[01:50] <tarzeau> gnomefreak: english is fine, thank you
[01:50] <tarzeau> cafuego: thanks, can you tell me if you can setup a weekly cronjob for that url you gave me?
[01:51] <rag> teledyn, yeah user in group
[01:51] <tarzeau> is there a 12x12 pixel ubuntu logo somewhere?
[01:51] <frederick85> I installed ubuntu and my  and  keys are a bit wierd and dont work unless I hold them down for a short periodnnoying
[01:52] <MrGuy> noob q: dont spose ubuntu latest desktop has a GCC compiler does it?
[01:52] <frederick85> Also anyone know how I can install g++
[01:52] <cafuego> tarzeau: in cron.weekly: "wget -c http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz -O - | gzip -d | grep ^Maintainer | uniq -cd | sort -n > /some/file"   :-)
[01:52] <soundray> frederick85: you have dead keys activated.
[01:52] <soundray> frederick85: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[01:52] <teledyn> tarzeau: 12x12?  that's just a few dots, not much of a logo
[01:52] <frederick85> soundray: yes I saw deadkeys in keyboard settings
[01:52] <tarzeau> cafuego: i guess it means i'll run it, but thank you for the full url/command
[01:52] <cafuego> MrGuy: Not installed by default, no.
[01:52] <gnomefreak> MrGuy: install build-essential for gcc compiler
[01:52] <cafuego> teledyn: think favicon.ico
[01:52] <MrGuy> okay
[01:52] <tarzeau> teledyn: http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/bsd.png     just a few dots or the freebsd logo?
[01:53] <teledyn> favicons are 32x32
[01:53] <cafuego> tarzeau: There's an SVG on the wiki, just grab & resize as needed.
[01:53] <frederick85> Soundray: how do I fix the keys
[01:53] <soundray> frederick85: easiest fix is via System-Preferences-Keyboard, selecting a layout without dead keys
[01:53] <Adriano> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+members
[01:53] <cafuego> teledyn: 16x16 actually
[01:53] <Adriano> has a similar list
[01:53] <frederick85> soundray: how do I install standard Us English instead of International
[01:53] <teledyn> tarzeau: wait let my get my microscope and i'll tell you...
[01:54] <teledyn> cafuego: i think browsers can now handle 32x32
[01:54] <tarzeau> teledyn: hehe, i can use the gimp to make them the size i need (it's for large lists)
[01:54] <frederick85> Soundray: i tried alot of US layouts and even Brittish layouts but brittish have the pound sign and i don want that
[01:54] <tarzeau> where you don't want each of the 2000 entries to use 32 pixels vertically
[01:54] <cafuego> teledyn: They probably can, they squeeze it into a 16x16 spot in he location bar though.
[01:54] <soundray> frederick85: hold on, I'll have a look on mine...
[01:54] <teledyn> check out my custom favicon at infrablue.mine.nu
[01:54] <tarzeau> !popcon
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about popcon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <teledyn> i used i think babygimp to create it
[01:55] <cafuego> tarzeau: not a blootbot here anymore
[01:55] <tarzeau> ubotu popcon is please install popularity-contest and be part of http://popcon.ubuntu.com
[01:55] <tarzeau> cafuego: what a pity, unteachable?
[01:55] <JuJuBee> How do I increas the number of resolutions for my display settings?  I used to have 60 - 85 for my monitor.  Now the only one is 60 since I reinstalled.
[01:55] <soundray> frederick85: have you tried the "Alternative international" option under U.S.?
[01:55] <frederick85> soundray: sorry i fixed it
[01:55] <MrGuy> how frustrating lol, my network card comes with linux drivers that must be compiled with gcc_
[01:55] <gnomefreak> tarzeau: only certain people can add facts to the bot to keep down on crap that has been added in past
[01:55] <frederick85> soundray: thanks for the tips anyway my friend
[01:56] <soundray> frederick85: anytime
[01:56] <frederick85> can I install AiGLX on Ubuntu
[01:56] <soundray> MrGuy: are you sure that ubuntu hasn
[01:56] <gnomefreak> frederick85: ask in #ubuntu-xgl please
[01:56] <soundray> MrGuy: are you sure that ubuntu hasn't done that for you already? What type of network card?
[01:57] <dv_> hi
[01:58] <teledyn> identify favicons/favicon.wiggle.ico    BMP 32x32 DirectClass 3kb
[01:59] <MrGuy> its not a card, its a usb ethernet-nic
[01:59] <valborg> hello; I'm using xubuntu, but it's not translated to norwegian, but the rest of the system is translated. I believe gnumeric is translated, but is there something I need to do?
[01:59] <MrGuy> sorry, ethernet usb-nic
[01:59] <soundray> MrGuy: Linksys?
[01:59] <MrGuy> nope, dynamode
[01:59] <MrGuy> without the drivers, it sees it as a modem,
[01:59] <MrGuy> which it isnt
[01:59] <MrGuy> and insists i put all my dial up details in, yet we have a router lol
[02:00] <soundray> MrGuy: do you know how to go about compiling the driver?
[02:00] <|rellis|> valborg: Is something in particular not working?
[02:00] <MrGuy> ye, theres a guide on the driver cd, it gives you the command
[02:00] <|rellis|> valborg: or not translated?
[02:01] <Ornedan> The new Eclipse 3.2 packages for Edgy don't seem to work. Eclipse always dies on startup. Anyone else experiencing this?
[02:01] <valborg> |rellis|: well, only gnumeric is in english and not norwegian; I think it may be the gnome norwegian pack, so I'm downloading it now;)
[02:02] <soundray> MrGuy: often, manufacturer guides like that don't apply to Ubuntu one-to-one. Have you looked on the forums/wiki for ubuntu-specific instructions?
[02:02] <|rellis|> valborg: oh okay, ya that might very well be it
[02:02] <MrGuy> couldnt find anythng for that specific device
[02:02] <MrGuy> ive got a different card now though, a net lynx one so ill have a pop with that
[02:02] <|rellis|> valborg: I assume you went system->administration->language support and set it in there?
[02:03] <soundray> MrGuy: good luck. If you have trouble, this is a good place to ask.
[02:03] <MrGuy> okay, thanks.
[02:04] <teledyn> Ornedan: launch it from a command line and watch for error output.  run strace
[02:04] <VladDrac> hi, where can I find a list of (out of the box) supported raid cards. Or, in other words, does dapper support 3ware 8006 lp2 out of the box (3w-xxxx driver)?
[02:05] <valborg> |rellis|: no, I launched synaptic and searched for norwegian and somehow the gnome norwegian pack was not installed; I'll report back if it works;)
[02:05] <soundray> VladDrac: there is a w-xxxx.ko module that comes with dapper by default.
[02:05] <JuJuBee> Any ideas on how to add resolutions to my display settings?  Before re-installation, I was using 1280X800 @ 85, now all I can select is 60.
[02:06] <soundray> VladDrac: s/w-xxxx.ko/3w-xxxx.ko/
[02:06] <VladDrac> soundray sounds good, but I wouldn't mind some more explicit confirmation
[02:06] <valborg> |rellis|: yup, worked fine;)
[02:06] <Terminus> is there any way to read foo.pod.gz with perldoc like how foo.txt.gz can be filtered through lesspipe?
[02:06] <KenSentMe> !fixres > JuJuBee
[02:06] <KenSentMe> JuJuBee: check what ubotu says to you
[02:07] <soundray> VladDrac: if the driver is there, it usually means that it works as well. You could check whether any bugs have been filed against it.
[02:07] <JuJuBee> Thanks KenSentMe.
[02:07] <VladDrac> soundray: is there a 3w-9xxx driver?
[02:07] <soundray> VladDrac: yes.
[02:08] <VladDrac> hmm ok. The machine used to have a 9550 card (9xxx card) which wasn't supported by any stable, recent ubuntu or debian
[02:09] <VladDrac> but back then (april / may this year) dapper wasn't released
[02:09] <VladDrac> ok tx
[02:09] <soundray> VladDrac: can you install to a non-raid local root partition?
[02:09] <GnarusLeo> Hi! How do I update to firefox 2.0?
[02:09] <Ornedan> teledyn: Any instructions as to what parameters I should give strace? Also, Eclipse does get as far as producing it's own crash log
[02:09] <soundray> GnarusLeo: by updating your distribution to edgy.
[02:10] <VladDrac> soundray a two-step install? I'd rather void it
[02:10] <VladDrac> avoid, eve
[02:10] <VladDrac> n
[02:10] <GnarusLeo> soundray, how do I do that?
[02:10] <soundray> !edgy >GnarusLeo
[02:10] <teledyn> Ornedan: strace -s 128 -o /tmp/strace.out -f </path/to/app>
[02:10] <akaspersen> Could anyone help me get norwegian language support in bash, ,   doesn't work, and I don't know how to configure locales properly
[02:10] <soundray> GnarusLeo: follow the instructions ubotu sent you.
[02:10] <invite> jkhk
[02:10] <GnarusLeo> ok soundray, but how do I update to it? :)
[02:11] <MrGuy> argh, ive put this network card in and linux insists its also a modem (ppp0)
[02:11] <ambimom> gnarusLeo: instructions are on homepage for ubuntu
[02:11] <soundray> GnarusLeo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:11] <user_> hi room
[02:11] <MrGuy> hi
[02:11] <bionoid> MrGuy: Added value? =P
[02:11] <MrGuy> :D
[02:11] <MrGuy> lol
[02:11] <soundray> MrGuy: it probably is. Does it show up as two devices in lsusb?
[02:12] <Ryugi> hello
[02:12] <ba5e> hello Ryugi
[02:12] <weardlan> still trying ubuntu on my sony vaio, drops to initramfs prompt and casper.log shows mount /cdrom /root/cdrom fails, allclus appreciated
[02:12] <Ryugi> does anyone hee do programming in linux?
[02:13] <soundray> Ryugi: many people do. Just ask your question.
[02:13] <MrGuy> omfg this is so crazy. if i put the network card in on its own, it says its a modem, if i put the usb-nic in on its own, it insists its a modem, but if i put them both in together, it shows a network card and a modem:S
[02:14] <ba5e> MrGuy: sounds like your having fuN!!!!
[02:14] <MrGuy> lol oh well at least i have an eth0 now, jsut run dhclient on it now to see what happens
[02:14] <soundray> MrGuy: consider blacklisting the modules it loads for the modem.
[02:15] <MrGuy> what would that do, what does it mean and how would i go about doing it? lol
[02:15] <Alakazamz0r> ~~moneys the matter~~
[02:15] <soundray> MrGuy: blacklisting prevents a module from being loaded by udev.
[02:16] <ambimom> Gotta go...bye all
[02:16] <MrGuy> ambimom: bye
[02:16] <akaspersen> Could anyone help me configure my locales, I need support for norwegian letters in bash
[02:16] <soundray> MrGuy: in dapper, you make an entry in /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/
[02:16] <MrGuy> okay, thanks
[02:16] <Vich|Away> I installed my wireless network card and it appears to be connected (iwconfig)
[02:16] <Vich|Away> but I can't ping the router
[02:16] <MrGuy> well my network works now (Well internet, havnt tested if i can browse the rest of the network)
[02:16] <Ornedan> teledyn: Created an strace log. What then? Also, the issue doesn't seem dependent on jvm used (botg gcj and sun fail the same way)
[02:17] <Vich|Away> :S
[02:17] <Ornedan> s/botg/both/
[02:17] <ubuntu> Hi
[02:17] <ubuntu> :D
[02:17] <dthacker> I'm having problems generating a GPGkey to register as an ubuntero.  Can anyone assist?
[02:17] <Tompu> dthacker: whats your issue?
[02:17] <soundray> akaspersen: bash as such does not deal with character sets. You need to configure your terminal program or console.
[02:17] <akaspersen> soundray; how do I do that?
[02:18] <soundray> akaspersen: are you using the console or gnome-terminal?
[02:18] <dthacker> The key never seems to be uploaded.  The upload command gives no feedback, so I'm not sure if I'm successful or not.
[02:18] <akaspersen> soundray: gnome-terminal
[02:18] <soundray> akaspersen: ubuntu seems to support three Norwegian languages. Which do you need?
[02:19] <Tompu> dthacker: try gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-key 'key-id'
[02:19] <soundray> akaspersen: nn, nb or no?
[02:19] <akaspersen> soundray: norwegian(no) or norwegian bokml (nb) should both be fine
[02:19] <dthacker> Tompu: what is the 'key-id'?  When I list out keys I have an uid.  Is that it?
[02:20] <Tompu> dthacker: if you gpg --list-keys, you have a 'sub:' line. the ID is the part immediately after the /
[02:20] <verdurin> Is there a way of changing dmesg to use "real" time and date instead of epoch?
[02:21] <dthacker> ah, thanks Tompu:  I think that's the bit of info I've been missing.
[02:21] <soundray> akaspersen: 'sudo apt-get install language-pack-gnome-no language-pack-gnome-nb', then log out of gnome and choose your preferred language at the login screen.
[02:21] <MrGuy> finally after getting the network going, for some reason, the internet is really really unstable. like it only works half the time. im downloading samba now and it downloads a few hundred kb, stops for about 30 seconds then downloads more:S any explanations?
[02:21] <Tompu> dthacker: no worries. I had problems with that myself earlier. The guide isn't explicit
[02:22] <soundray> MrGuy: try another download server before concluding that the problem is on your side ;)
[02:22] <akaspersen> soundray: thanks, I'll try
[02:22] <MrGuy> how do i tell apt-get to use a different server?
[02:23] <soundray> MrGuy: don't -- just download some file from somewhere else with wget
[02:23] <MrGuy> okay
[02:23] <Vich> is there something I can type to check if my wireless is connected?
[02:24] <MrGuy> akaspersen: did that language pack download normally using apt-get?
[02:24] <MrGuy> try pinging somewhere
[02:24] <dthacker> Tompu, this time I did get a "sending key xxxxxxx" message, so I think I'm good.  Thanks again.
[02:24] <MrGuy> vich: try ping www.google.com
[02:24] <soundray> MrGuy: to answer your actual question, though, you configure that in /etc/apt/sources.list by replacing http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ with e.g. http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ wherever it occurs
[02:24] <dthacker> Tompu: last quick question.  Where could I file a bug/request to clarify the docs?
[02:24] <Vich> I can ping myself
[02:25] <Vich> but I cannot ping the router or another computer
[02:25] <Tompu> dthacker: I'm here to ask that question myself
[02:25] <Nophiq> hi all
[02:25] <MrGuy> vich: that would suggest the wireless isnt connected then
[02:25] <soundray> dthacker: file it on launchpad against the package that supplies the doc
[02:26] <dthacker> soundray: it's web based documentation, not sure what supplies it.  I don't think it's supplied by an Ubuntu package?
[02:26] <akaspersen> soundray:unfortunately it didn't seem to work. I can write norwegian letters, but the terminal won't understand them
[02:27] <soundray> akaspersen: what's the symptom of "terminal won't understand them"?
[02:27] <Tompu> dthacker: https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad ?
[02:27] <Ropechoborra> I have a problem.. i got Kubuntu Edgy, and i cant open some programs (like FrostWire.. or Adept) ... dont know whats happening =(
[02:28] <soundray> dthacker: what documentation is this?
[02:29] <Stev> hi, someone can help em to recover a ntfs partition?
[02:29] <akaspersen> soundray: I could write a file with a word, e.g. fl, and when I open the file in the editor (gvim usually), everything seems fine, but if I use the "more"-command, I'll get a output like "f l"
[02:29] <davee> My /etc/apt/sources.list is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28237/ - when I try to install updates, I get a "you are about to install software that cannot be authenticated" warning - any idea why?
[02:29] <Tompu> dthacker: https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/57175
[02:29] <Ropechoborra> Some cool p2p client?
[02:30] <wickedpuppy>  ktorrent or azureus
[02:30] <Ropechoborra> But they work just for torrents..
[02:30] <soundray> akaspersen: it could be that the font you've chosen for the terminal doesn't supply that character. Change the font via Edit-Current Profile
[02:30] <Ropechoborra> If i want to download music or something like that?
[02:30] <Blixou> you haven't a keys for your dpots, check a web site of ubuntu
[02:31] <Blixou> you have amule too
[02:31] <avalost> hmm, perhaps someone could help me: I have like 30 or so .zip files i would like to extract to one dir, is there any way to extract all at the same time to same dir?
[02:32] <byteshack> is it possible to do just a server install from a live cd?
[02:32] <Tompu> avalost: man unzip
[02:32] <byteshack> I can't seem to find doco for that
[02:32] <Blixou> right clic => extract to... or download easyubuntu
[02:33] <soundray> avalost: unzip unpacks the file to the current dir, you just need to give it the full path to the zipfile.
[02:34] <JohnDoe_> test
[02:34] <avalost> soundray: unzip *.zip -ed /path/to/dir?
[02:34] <byteshack> the install icon on the desktop seems to go directly into a gnome install without giving me the option to just do a server install
[02:34] <akaspersen> soundray: that doesn't seem to work either
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> Ropechoborra, i can download music or videos with torrent ...
[02:34] <frederick85> can someone please tell me what I can so with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28238/
[02:35] <soundray> byteshack: look at the help screens at the first boot prompt (F1, F2...). There is a boot option for server installation.
[02:35] <soundray> akaspersen: you may need the language-support-nX package(s) as well
[02:35] <Tompu> avalost: I dont think you need the -e, but -d will work
[02:36] <Ropechoborra> wickedpuppy yes.. but is more complicated when you just want to download few from different groups
[02:36] <byteshack> I remember that being there in breeze, but I coulnd't find them in Dapper.  I'll take a look again
[02:36] <Tompu> avalost: I don't think -e is valid for unzip
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> Ropechoborra, azureus can download different files from a torrent ... so can ktorrent
[02:36] <GnarusLeo> ok, when I have upgraded to edgy, how do I get firefox 2.0?
[02:36] <soundray> avalost: I don't think there is a -e option. -d should work, though.
[02:36] <avalost> Tompu: hmm.. this is what i got : caution: filename not matched:  a_t_astrale_gimp.zip
[02:36] <avalost> unzip *.zip -d brch/
[02:36] <avalost> is what i did
[02:37] <Ropechoborra> GnarusLeo you should have it.. if your upgrade was succesful
[02:37] <avalost> the -ed was typo
[02:37] <soundray> GnarusLeo: you should have it already.
[02:37] <avalost> was supposed to be -d
[02:37] <GnarusLeo> ok, ty Ropechoborra and sokuban_
[02:37] <akaspersen> soundray: I have all the norwegian language-support packages installed. Any other ideas?
[02:37] <Ropechoborra> wickedpuppy I'll try.. thanks
[02:37] <graveson> what software can i use to write my blogs locally and post them to my subscribed blog on the net - i am currently subscribed to wordpress
[02:37] <GnarusLeo> soundray, Ive heard that the full egdy's coming out tomorrow, is that correct?
[02:38] <soundray> GnarusLeo: yes
[02:38] <GnarusLeo> soundray, so it was onfoutniate of me to upgrade today? or does it matter?
[02:38] <soundray> GnarusLeo: no, you will just a another few package updates tomorrow.
[02:39] <byteshack> hmmm... the only options seem to be [live]  and [memtest]  from the Dapper liveCD
[02:39] <Tompu> avalost: Sorry, no idea. Tested and works for me. perhaps a problem with the zip file in question
[02:39] <GnarusLeo> soundray, what I thought .. thanks again
[02:39] <avalost> hmm
[02:39] <avalost> k, thanks
[02:41] <profoX`> How can I automatically start a command after booting? i mean, there are different ways.. an easy one for a bash script ?
[02:41] <soundray> akaspersen: so you've tried different fonts in the terminal?
[02:41] <profoX`> is there a file where I can add such things or do I have to do it in init?
[02:41] <soundray> profoX`: /etc/rc.local
[02:42] <profoX`> soundray: perfect, that was what i was looking for
[02:43] <Tompu> soundray: doesnt /etc/rc.local run with every runlevel change? or is this irrelevant
[02:43] <soundray> byteshack: I think you need the Alternate CD then
[02:44] <soundray> Tompu: to be honest, I don't know the answer to either of your questions.
[02:45] <thee> i was trying to install ubuntu on my friends computer but it stuck at hd detection stage. can anybody help me.
[02:45] <soundray> Tompu: oh, it's actually in the file: "executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel". profoX`, heed this.
[02:45] <akaspersen> soundray: yes, and nothing seemed to work
[02:46] <Tompu> soundray: good point. i suppose the average Ubuntu user only enters multiuser runlevel once per boot though?
[02:46] <sparkleytone> i did a dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper and now my openssh-server is broken
[02:46] <sparkleytone> it will run, but when i connect it does
[02:46] <sparkleytone> dies*
[02:46] <Alakazamz0r> SpacePuppy, reconfigure it
[02:46] <sparkleytone> giving the following error: *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080a2b28 ***
[02:46] <soundray> akaspersen: sorry, out of ideas. Have you asked in #ubuntu-no ?
[02:47] <sparkleytone> can someone PLEASE help with this?
[02:47] <thee> i was trying to install ubuntu on my friends computer but it stuck at hd detection stage. can anybody help me.
[02:47] <Alakazamz0r> sparkleytone, i told you... reconfigure it
[02:47] <sparkleytone> Alakazamz0r: i did
[02:47] <sparkleytone> Alakazamz0r: it didn't help
[02:47] <Alakazamz0r> purge it and reinstallit
[02:47] <akaspersen> soundray: I'll try now, thanks for your help
[02:47] <sparkleytone> Alakazamz0r: i did, also didn't help
[02:48] <sparkleytone> Alakazamz0r: i also did a src build and it still crashes like that
[02:48] <soundray> sparkleytone: have you rebooted since the upgrade?
[02:48] <Alakazamz0r> sparkleytone, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162734&highlight=double+free+OR+corruption+%28%21prev%29
[02:48] <sparkleytone> soundray: yeah i did
[02:49] <sparkleytone> Alakazamz0r: thx
[02:49] <Alakazamz0r> no problem
[02:49] <Alakazamz0r> that may help
[02:49] <sparkleytone> hmmm...
[02:50] <livingdaylight> Can you tell me if either books come reccommended for Open Office - Dummies for Open Office or Robin Miller's Point & Click OpenOffice.org
[02:50] <sparkleytone> Alakazamz0r: no dice :/
[02:50] <thee> I was trying to install ubuntu on my friends computer but it stuck at hd detection stage. can anybody help me. ANYBODY
[02:50] <syntaxx> anyone good at iptables? i cant connect to my samba when deploying this rule http://pastebin.ca/220960 anyone know what im missing or error?
[02:51] <Ryugi> do you guys think making a SMS content platform on linux is recommended?
[02:51] <Tompu> syntaxx: try #iptables ;)
[02:51] <syntaxx> Tompu, no one talks :D
[02:51] <GnarusLeo> Hi, I get this error when trying to dist-upgrade to edgy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28245/ ... can anyone please respond?
[02:51] <livingdaylight> Can you tell me if either books come reccommended for Open Office - Dummies for Open Office or Robin Miller's Point & Click OpenOffice.org
[02:51] <livingdaylight> no one in #openoffice.org even knows
[02:51] <Tompu> thee: whats the problem?
[02:52] <ZorK> Hello, i need some help. I cant boot to anything on my laptop. I had windows and ubuntu on there. So now i booted ubuntu with the live CD. Is there any way I can copy the disc where windows was, to my external harddisc? (Note: I cannot enter the disc where-on windows is installed) It is because i have some really important stuff on my windows i need..
[02:52] <jbinder> !schedule
[02:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:52] <thee> it freezes at the stage where it detects hard disk partitions.
[02:53] <soundray> ZorK: how does the hard disk boot fail?
[02:53] <Tompu> thee: what cd are you running the install from?
[02:53] <thee> the normal ubuntu live cd.
[02:53] <ZorK> soundray: "Cant load operating system.."
[02:53] <GnarusLeo> Hi, I get this error when trying to dist-upgrade to edgy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28245/ ... can anyone please respond?
[02:53] <Tompu> thee: 6.06?
[02:53] <robin> hello,  I made a mistake and stop the adept auto updater from starting on boot, how do i fix?
[02:54] <soundray> ZorK: is that a message from grub? Or is there no way to tell?
[02:54] <sparkleytone> GnarusLeo: if you're upgrading to edgy, you're not going to get much support here
[02:54] <ZorK> No way to tell
[02:54] <Tompu> ZorK: grub doesnt spit that message out
[02:54] <thee> Tompu: yes. should i wait for edgy?
[02:54] <ZorK> Tompu: its not Grub
[02:54] <soundray> ZorK: I'd try reinstalling grub, as if Windows had ruined it. Hold on, I'll find the instructions...
[02:54] <ZorK> I booted my windows cd and did fixmbr to fix the booting, but now its fucked
[02:54] <Tompu> ZorK: my point exactly
[02:55] <ZorK> soundray: i do that from the livecd? cause thats the only thing i can boot
[02:55] <sparkleytone> edgy final is already on the way?
[02:55] <Tompu> ZorK: do you have a second system?
[02:55] <ZorK> Tompu: I had windows and ubuntu on the same disc, but different partitions. And neither can boot
[02:55] <soundray> ZorK: scroll down to "Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader" on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:55] <thee> sparkleytone: it will be released on 26th october.
[02:55] <Tompu> ZorK: do you have a seperate physical computer?
[02:56] <ZorK> Tompu: this one
[02:56] <LookTJ> which is tomorrow
[02:56] <sparkleytone> wow...that's a fast release cycle.
[02:56] <sparkleytone> from june to october...wow.
[02:56] <Tompu> ZorK: before you proceed, I'd transfer the offending hdd into the other computer, and back up your 'essential' files
[02:56] <thee> Tompu: any suggestions?
[02:57] <ZorK> Tompu: but how?
[02:57] <soundray> ZorK: Tompu's advice is good in principle, but the grub fix isn't particularly dangerous
[02:57] <LookTJ> The Fiesty Fawn is the next codename?
[02:57] <soundray> ZorK: you can use partimage -- I think it's on the live CD.
[02:57] <Tompu> thee: sorry, no. It's possible that the cd is damaged in some way, but I think that's unlikely
[02:58] <soundray> LookTJ: feisty (swap e and i)
[02:58] <thee> i tried both ubuntu and kubuntu. none worked.
[02:58] <Tompu> thee: ah. i suppose there is such a thing as unsupported hardware :(
[02:59] <Tompu> thee: you could try a 'manual' install, but i have no experience with ubuntu manual installs
[02:59] <thee> Tompu: yes that may be the case he has an AM2 based motherboard.
[02:59] <LookTJ> oops, sorry thanks for correcting my word soundray
[02:59] <ZorK> (Tompu) ZorK: before you proceed, I'd transfer the offending hdd into the other computer, and back up your 'essential' files <-- But how do i do that? Can i just drag and drop the harddisc from "Computer" to my external harddrive?
[02:59] <soundray> thee: I had a similar problem that was fixed by entering the 'noapic' boot option
[03:00] <soundray> ZorK: use partimage, like I said
[03:00] <thee> soundray: how and where do i do that?
[03:01] <Newbie> hello having problems compiling my kernel
[03:01] <Newbie> Cannot find /lib/modules/2.6.18.1
[03:01] <Newbie> Failed to create initrd image.
[03:01] <Newbie> dpkg: error processing kernel-image-2.6.18.1 (--install):
[03:01] <soundray> thee: when you boot, at the first screen where it waits for a few seconds for your input. There is some info on the F-key help screens at that stage.
[03:01] <soundray> Newbie: why are you compiling a kernel at all?
[03:02] <thee> soundray: thanks. will try it.
[03:02] <Newbie> well, i'v made modifications to memery settings, processor type, grsec patch, perf patches, etc etc
[03:02] <Newbie> disabled a whole load of unused graphics cards, net adapters, bluetooth, irda, etc
[03:02] <robin> auto update notification isnt starting on boot, how do i change that?
[03:02] <soundray> thee: other things to try are 'nolapic' and dma-related options. There is a list somewhere... hold on, I'll have a look
[03:03] <Newbie> soundray: any idea why it isn't compiling?
[03:03] <thee> robin: click on System->Preferences->Sessions
[03:03] <soundray> thee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[03:03] <Newbie> make-kpkg -initrd --revision=ck2 kernel_image
[03:03] <Tompu> soundray, ZorK: what about simply running grub-install from the live cd?
[03:03] <Newbie> that worked no problem
[03:04] <Newbie> its just the image that is the problem
[03:04] <Tompu> soundray, ZorK: you'd need to mount /boot first, i suspect
[03:04] <whyameye> all the CD writing apps are failing to write successfully to my CD recorder. They claim the CD is full or finalized even though I am sticking in blank CDs. How should I troubleshoot this?
[03:04] <RawSewage> can I do this:   I have no Linux installed.  Tomorrow, I put in the old Dapper LiveCD.  Can I install Edgy directly from that over the internet?  Without ever installing Dapper?
[03:04] <soundray> Tompu: why not follow the advice that's tried and tested? (ZorK)
[03:05] <thee> soundray: Thank you.
[03:05] <azathoth> RawSewage: no
[03:05] <Tompu> soundray: grub-install is how I've always 'fixed' my system after a windows re-install
[03:05] <azathoth> just get the edgy cd tommorrow
[03:05] <ZorK> nooooooooo... i cant write to external harddrive :/
[03:05] <RawSewage> I dont want to have to burn another CD
[03:05] <RawSewage> Im almost out of CDs
[03:06] <azathoth> buy some more
[03:06] <soundray> ZorK: try with sudo
[03:06] <RawSewage> I'm broke
[03:06] <ZorK> how?
[03:06] <soundray> ZorK: and don't panic ;)
[03:06] <ZorK> I need to copy the WHOLE disc to my external harddrive, whats the command for that?
[03:06] <squeee> Is it possible to set up a chroot where you run a normal 32bit root and a 64 bit kernel, and changeroot a 64bit environment?
[03:06] <Newbie> hmm, where could I get help on a custom kernel build?
[03:07] <joona> ZorK: do you want files, or HD image=
[03:07] <soundray> ZorK: use partimage
[03:07] <joona> dd ftw
[03:07] <ZorK> joona: I need to get the WHOLE disc copied to my external drive. I guess an image would be okay, like an ISO or IMG ?
[03:07] <soundray> !kernelcompile >Newbie
[03:08] <ZorK> soundray: where is partimage?
[03:08] <joona> ZorK: yeah, like iso
[03:08] <ZorK> joona: how do i do that?
[03:08] <joona> ZorK: dd if=/dev/yourhd of=/path/to/diskimage.img
[03:08] <soundray> ZorK: Alt-F2, gksudo partimage
[03:08] <syntaxx> !kernelcompile > syntaxx
[03:08] <joona> if = input file, of = output file
[03:08] <joona> linux handles devices (eg. harddrives) as files too, so the operation is pretty simple
[03:09] <joona> if you point it to specific partition, eg /dev/hda2, it just copies the whole hda2 to disk image
[03:09] <ZorK> soundray: doesnt open anything
[03:09] <joona> if you point straight to /dev/hda, it copies the whole disk
[03:09] <joona> including boot sector ec
[03:09] <joona> etc
[03:09] <soundray> ZorK: okay, forget it then... it's on Knoppix live CDs
[03:09] <Newbie> soundray: heh you think I didnt read before I asked for help
[03:09] <joona> and partition table
[03:10] <ZorK> joona: can you give me a bit more described command? im a n00b
[03:10] <soundray> Newbie: you'd be surprised how many people are that lazy.
[03:10] <joona> ZorK: the first one is
[03:10] <joona> dd if=/dev/yourhd of=/path/to/diskimage.img
[03:10] <cjuner> Hi... Is it possible to configure sudo so it basically works like su -c 'command' (i.e. it asks for the root user's password, not the user's).
[03:10] <joona> if you wanna copy /dev/hda to diskimage.img its dd if=/dev/hda of=diskimage.img
[03:10] <joona> if you are in the directory where you want to create the disk image
[03:11] <jelly> Hi, I've added some fonts to /usr/share/fonts/truetype, what needs to be run to make them visible to (gtk2,qt) apps?
[03:11] <soundray> joona: the resulting image is pretty useless, though, if it's of a non-booting hard disk. (ZorK)
[03:11] <stjepan> when will be relased new FGLRX drivers?????
[03:11] <stjepan> !fglrx
[03:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:11] <Newbie> hmf, nooooo help on this problem on google
[03:11] <ZorK> joona: well the harddrive is not called /dev blah blah .. when i do the properties on it its just said: location: computer:///
[03:11] <Newbie> unless i'm using stupid search strings
[03:11] <ZorK> not any dev stuf
[03:11] <joona> soundray: why?
[03:11] <joona> soundray: its just exact copy of /dev/hda then
[03:12] <ZorK> soundray: i just need the files, so i can pull the image apart and get my files on another computer
[03:12] <joona> including partiton table and all the data
[03:12] <stjepan> anyoby here uses opensource R300 drivers?
[03:12] <stjepan> !r300
[03:12] <Newbie> i must be missing some packages....
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about r300 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <Alakazamz0r> Fetched 781MB in 37m11s (350kB/s)
[03:12] <Alakazamz0r> w00t
[03:12] <soundray> joona: it's useless as a backup, though, because you can't mount any partitions from it without major surgery.
[03:12] <Metaj> Dose anyone know why my wabcam microfon becomes my default voicecard ????????
[03:13] <joona> yeah, thats true
[03:13] <ZorK> joona: can i do dd if=/dev/hda of=diskimage.iso instead? or must it be img?
[03:13] <Hattori> repository?
[03:13] <joona> ZorK: yeah, the extension wont affect the format :)
[03:13] <Hattori> ?repository
[03:14] <joona> ZorK: but please, tell us why you need the image
[03:14] <soundray> ZorK: don't backup /dev/hda with dd. This is what I just discussed with joona.
[03:14] <joona> as soundray pointed out, it won't be good as a backup
[03:14] <Hattori> hmm. where can i find the repository list to dist-upgrade to last ubuntu version? i have kubuntu at the moment
[03:14] <davee> Which key IDs do you see when you do "sudo apt-key list" - trying to troubleshoot authentication errors when downloading new packages
[03:14] <joona> if you want to backup just specific partitions, point straight to them
[03:14] <joona> like dd if=/dev/hda2 of=hda2_backup.iso
[03:14] <soundray> ZorK: backup /dev/hda1 or whatever your Windows partition is.
[03:14] <daxxar> Anyone know of a decent web-tool for monitoring of the health of systems and their services?
[03:15] <joona> so you'll be able to mount the specific partitions straight later on
[03:15] <ZorK> okay, how do i do the = on a danish keyboard with english settings?
[03:15] <daxxar> I.e. what hosts are online, what services are online, etc.
[03:15] <thee> Hattori: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:15] <soundray> ZorK: better yet, mount your Windows partition read-only and backup the files/dirs you need.
[03:15] <joona> ZorK: its most likely ?-button
[03:15] <Newbie> lalallalalallalal
[03:15] <ZorK> soundray: i back it up by creating a iso?
[03:15] <ZorK> joona: nope
[03:15] <soundray> ZorK: no. You create a partition image.
[03:15] <daxxar> ZorK, try the button to the left of the backspace button
[03:15] <soundray> Newbie: that is a sure-fire way to get kicked from this channel.
[03:16] <Metaj> Dose anyone know why my wabcam microfon becomes my default voicecard ????????
[03:16] <Newbie> soundray: is there any other channels I can ask and somebody might have had this same type of problem.
[03:16] <Hattori> hmm. where can i find the repository list to dist-upgrade to last ubuntu version? i have kubuntu at the moment
[03:16] <soundray> Metaj: don't repeat. Rephrase your question if you don't get a reply.
[03:16] <ZorK> soundray: just right click and mount?
[03:16] <ZorK> daxxar: thanks
[03:16] <frederick85> what file do the apt-package information download to?
[03:17] <soundray> ZorK: yes, or do a 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt'
[03:17] <joona> ZorK: keep in mind, that resulting file when created with dd will be exactly the same size as the partition you're copying
[03:17] <joona> ZorK: but as soundray pointed, it will most likely be better to just backup the files
[03:18] <thee> Hattori: that will install gnome and apps from ubuntu 6.06 in addition to your kubuntu installation
[03:18] <ZorK> soundray: done, but now i cant open it.. it just doesnt open
[03:18] <Hattori> thee: so what should i do to get only ubuntu and not kubuntu?
[03:19] <frederick85> What file does my Apt repository information Download Into
[03:19] <soundray> Newbie: if you don't get a reply now, try again later.
[03:19] <thee> once you install ubuntu you can set gnome as your default desktop manager and then...
[03:19] <soundray> ZorK: what doesn't open?
[03:20] <thee> sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[03:20] <thee> oops...
[03:20] <joona> ZorK: it's permissions are most likely restricted for root
[03:20] <ZorK> soundray: when i go to "Computer" and choose the thing, it wont open the windows partition..
[03:20] <ZorK> OMG!!
[03:20] <thee> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[03:20] <Ropechoborra> I upgraded to edgy, (i had linux-686 installed) now my kernel is 386.. how do i change to 686 again? (but the newest)
[03:20] <Hattori> thee: ok, where is repository list to upgrade to last version of ubuntu?
[03:20] <joona> ZorK: check it out, open terminal
[03:20] <ZorK> I just backed it up and its only 500 mb!!!! My harddisk is GONE!!
[03:21] <ZorK> joona: yes?
[03:21] <soundray> ZorK: unless the partition you tried to write to is full.
[03:21] <joona> sudo ls /mnt
[03:21] <thee> Hattori: in the terminal type sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[03:21] <sparkleytone> Alakazamz0r: apparently an empty /etc/krb5.keytab causes that issue.  thanks for trying to help.  now we both know :/  8hrs of my life: gone.
[03:21] <Alakazamz0r> sparkleytone, sorry i wasn't able to help more... im glad you figured it out and thanks for letting me know.
[03:21] <ZorK> soundray: its not :(
[03:22] <thee> Hattori: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[03:22] <Alakazamz0r> sparkleytone, dont think of it as 8 hours gone, think of it as 8 hours of experience.
[03:22] <ZorK> joona: yes and so? Now i see the list of my windows drive
[03:22] <sparkleytone> Alakazamz0r: its cool.  i help people both for a living and for fun.  i understand :)
[03:22] <Alakazamz0r> lol, my default web browser is Lynx.
[03:22] <Alakazamz0r> lol
[03:22] <Alakazamz0r> cool sparkleytone :D
[03:22] <joona> ZorK: ok, so it's still there
[03:23] <Vich> can someone tell me what the latest version of ubuntu is?
[03:23] <Alakazamz0r> 6.06
[03:23] <joona> ZorK: now if you want to back up the files, do 'sudo tar -czvvf ~/bacup_of_win.tar.gz /mnt'
[03:23] <Vich> I see it advertised on the site as 6.0.6
[03:23] <joona> ZorK: and it will create 'backup_of_win.tar.gz' in your home dir
[03:23] <Alakazamz0r> Vich, thats correct.
[03:23] <Alakazamz0r> 6.06 dapper
[03:23] <joona> including all the windows partitions files
[03:23] <Vich> yet a mirror I'm on lists 6.10
[03:23] <susscorfa> that is the same  Vich
[03:23] <frederick85> Ubuntu is such a great OS thanks to the guy who payed for it
[03:24] <Vich> 6.10 is the same?
[03:24] <susscorfa> 6.10 is not jet released
[03:24] <Vich> then why can I download it ~_~
[03:24] <Alakazamz0r> Vich, its a beta.
[03:24] <Alakazamz0r> testing purposes
[03:24] <susscorfa> !edgy
[03:24] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:24] <Vich> ah
[03:24] <Vich> thanks
[03:24] <Alakazamz0r> no problem.
[03:25] <susscorfa> it is probably released within a few days :S
[03:25] <Vich> and the difference between 6.0.6 and 6.0.6.1 would be?
[03:25] <susscorfa> :D
[03:25] <Vich> is 6.0.6.1 a beta too>
[03:25] <Vich> ?
[03:25] <ZorK> okay, how do i do the ~ on a danish keyboard with english settings?
[03:25] <susscorfa> i dont know about a 6.0.6.1
[03:25] <joona> ZorK: you dont need to do it
[03:25] <Vich> lol
[03:26] <joona> ZorK: just skip the ~/ part
[03:26] <Vich> and if it's a beta, why does it say rc
[03:26] <joona> ZorK: but then you must be in the dir where you want to create the file
[03:26] <Vich> doesn't that stand for release candidate?
[03:26] <joona> ZorK: so it'll be 'sudo tar -czvvf bacup_of_win.tar.gz /mnt'
[03:26] <dv_> it does
[03:26] <dv_> final release should be tomorrow
[03:26] <ZorK> joona: how do i know what dir im in when im going trough terminal?
[03:26] <Vich> ok
[03:26] <joona> ZorK: type pwd
[03:27] <joona> 'pwd', not 'type pwd' ;)
[03:28] <ZorK> joona: "Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive"
[03:28] <teledyn> ~ is shift+the key below F1
[03:28] <Alakazamz0r> brb
[03:29] <joona> ZorK: and you did exactly 'sudo tar -czvvf bacup_of_win.tar.gz /mnt'
[03:29] <joona> ?
[03:29] <ZorK> joona: yes
[03:29] <joona> and what do you get when you do 'sudo ls /mnt/'
[03:30] <joona> list of your windows files?
[03:30] <susscorfa> Vich: are your questions awnsered ?
[03:30] <ZorK> content of C:\ (the windows drive)
[03:30] <joona> ZorK: weird, it should start creating the tar.gz archive right there...
[03:30] <joona> try 'sudo tar -czvvf bacup_of_win.tar.gz /mnt/' if the last slash matters
[03:31] <ZorK> maybe because there is nothing there? maybe all my stuff is gone :(
[03:31] <joona> well, if you see the files, they definetly are there
[03:31] <ZorK> damn
[03:31] <ZorK> i forgot the /mnt/
[03:31] <ZorK> >_>
[03:31] <Metaj> Has someone succed to intall Creative Live Cam Video IM on Ubuntu 64bit
[03:31] <ZorK> It made it now, joona
[03:31] <joona> yea
[03:32] <joona> and you should see the list of files rolling in your terminal?
[03:32] <ZorK> joona: yes
[03:32] <GreenCult> hi all
[03:32] <joona> yeah, it's creating the backup then :)
[03:32] <thee> exit
[03:32] <thee> quit
[03:32] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me with install?  I wish to create custom partitions during install, but dont see how to set bootable flag during install.
[03:32] <ZorK> joona: i went to /home/ubuntu and saw there.. the file was tehre, but properties said "0 bytes"
[03:32] <joona> i hope you have enough free space on the partition where you are creating the archive
[03:33] <joona>  /home/ubuntu?
[03:33] <joona> you are running on livecd?
[03:33] <ZorK> yes
[03:33] <joona> gaaah
[03:33] <joona> GOD HAVE MERCY
[03:33] <joona> ;)
[03:33] <ZorK> i cant open the other operation systems
[03:33] <joona> ZorK: you won't have enough space to back up the hd
[03:33] <joona> where you think the backup is going to?
[03:33] <ZorK> lawl
[03:34] <ZorK> joona: can i do a command so it lands on my external harddrive? (but first i need access to write to it)
[03:34] <joona> ah, yes
[03:34] <joona> ZorK: what filesystem does it have?
[03:34] <joona> fat32 ? NTFS?
[03:34] <joona> the external hd i mean
[03:34] <metalek> any howto about how to install ati on edgy?
[03:34] <ZorK> ntfs i recall
[03:35] <JuJuBee> Am I in the wrong place for install questions?
[03:35] <joona> ok, i dont think you can mount it read-write then
[03:35] <joona> will you be able to format the external drive? is there anything valuable there that you'll need to save?
[03:35] <ZorK> hold on ill check
[03:36] <joona> if yes, boot up to your windows, and copy all the valuable stuff to your windows partition. then boot on to livecd again, format the external hd (as fat32 for example, so your windows will still be able to read it, too), mount it in, and create the backup there.
[03:36] <teledyn> question: why does he need to format an ntfs drive to copy a .tar.gz file to it?
[03:37] <joona> teledyn: does ubuntu have ntfs rw already?
[03:37] <ZorK> joona: So, format it here on my main, and shove it in on my laptop?
[03:37] <teledyn> joona: it doesn't?  i thought it would have
[03:37] <joona> haven't had any ntfs drives in so many years
[03:37] <joona> last that i checked, kernel had only read support
[03:37] <joona> (and experimental write)
[03:38] <teledyn> last i heard write support was no longer exp.  that was about a year ago
[03:38] <joona> you could only change files, couldnt even change their length
[03:38] <joona> oh, wicked
[03:38] <jpatota> why is cups better than LPR
[03:38] <teledyn> then again, don't let me stop anyone from reformatting an ntfs volume  :-)
[03:38] <Martin^_^> tell me
[03:39] <Vich> are the desktop and server versions of ubuntu very different?
[03:39] <joona> teledyn: hehehe, i think this guy would be better off if he wouldnt have to format it :)
[03:39] <Vich> does the server version have everything desktop has?
[03:39] <joona> ZorK: dont format yet
[03:39] <teledyn> Martin^_^: cups has a generic lpr interface
[03:39] <joona> ZorK: i'll check if its possible to write on ntfs
[03:39] <ZorK> Okay
[03:39] <Vich> I sort of want a desktop setup with some server functionality
[03:39] <ZorK> joona: in the meantime ill just backup to this computer from external
[03:39] <Vich> hybrid
[03:39] <MarcN> visiI think the only real difference is what gets installed by default.
[03:40] <Vich> I thought as much
[03:40] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys, I switched on my comp this morning only to see that while it is starting up it began a chech on the filesystem in hda1....when it gets around 20% into this check it says failed and im unable to complete starting up??? Im running from the live cd right now
[03:40] <Vich> but I don't like installing things on ubuntu yet
[03:40] <JuJuBee> 930 people here and nobody knows how to use the manual partition editor during install to set a partition bootable?  I don't feel so stupid anymore.
[03:40] <teledyn> Martin^_^: but cups is the new standard, and the lpr is legacy and mostly iunneeded
[03:40] <Sp4rKy> hi
[03:40] <Paddy_EIRE> JuJuBee: you can
[03:40] <jpatota> teledyn: thanks
[03:41] <Sp4rKy> please i need help about ppc version of ubuntu
[03:41] <MetaMorfoziS> can i list anyways (like fuser) to what files opened by a sleected program?
[03:41] <teledyn> jpatota: ?
[03:41] <teledyn> ah sorry
[03:41] <Sp4rKy> i have a bcm43** card (which doesn't work with default module)
[03:41] <JuJuBee> Paddy_ERIE : I can what?
[03:41] <Sp4rKy> does exists a software like ndiswrapper for ppc ?
[03:42] <Sp4rKy> or must i use bcm43xx-fwcutter ?
[03:42] <MarcN> MetaMorfoziS: look at lsof
[03:42] <Paddy_EIRE> JuJuBee: I will get back to you I got a much bigger prob :(
[03:42] <peter_123> Hey guys....based in China at the moment and the repositories all seem to be in the us.  What can I do to make them access the chinese repos?
[03:42] <MetaMorfoziS> thanx
[03:42] <MarcN> peter_123: take a look at apt-spy and have it find a closer repo for you.
[03:43] <shredder> info about my problem yesterday. If you have a new motherboard you must change mac-adresses in /etc/iftab if you want you network interfaces to work nicely.
[03:43] <peter_123> MarcN, thx
[03:43] <MarcN> peter_123: basically you edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to somewhere closer.
[03:43] <teledyn> peter_123: go to the ubuntu download page and look at the list of mirrors?
[03:44] <mm> Hey there.. Is there somewhere a place where I can look for what is planned to get in the dapper-backports? because I want to see if Postfix 2.3 and Dovecot 1.0rc will go there soon.. Because below that versions I cant use SMTP AUTH through Dovecot SASL.. Or do I have to use the edgy packages..?
[03:45] <mm> I need it for a server and dont want to use edgy on the server.
[03:45] <teledyn> mm: dovecot is an imap/pop server.   why would it use smtp auth, which is for an smtp server?
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> I switched on my comp this morning only to see that while it is starting up it began a check on the filesystem in hda1....when it gets around 20% into this check it says failed and im unable to complete starting up??? Im running from the live cd right now
[03:46] <mm> teledyn: Dovecot has SASL support for Postfix.
[03:46] <teledyn> mm: for doing what?
[03:47] <mm> teledyn: Like Cyrus is an IMAP Server but has also a sasl thing.. (the cyrus one is often confused with sasl in general)
[03:47] <mm> teledyn: Authenication?
[03:47] <eXistenZ> Deutsch?
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> !fschk
[03:47] <mm> teledyn: Do you know what SASL is?
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fschk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <teledyn> mm: now you're talking about sasl.  what does that have to do with smtp auth?
[03:48] <teledyn> mm: sure i know what it is
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> where has all the decent help gone
[03:49] <mm> teledyn: Perhaps you didnt like how I use these words, but the postfix and dovecot guys use it the same way.. ;) "Postfix 2.3 (at this writing still in development, but available in snapshots) supports SMTP AUTH through Dovecot SASL as introduced in the Dovecot 1.0 series."
[03:49] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: you there
[03:49] <snoops> edgy eft is shipping with firefox 2 correct? But is that firefox 2 rc2 or 3 OR is it firefox 2 final?
[03:50] <feydin> hi there, im running a raid0 and every boot it seems he's checking something on my drives which tooks some time. at this point he says "Replaying Transactions" and after that "0 Transactions replayed".... is that normal? ah btw. it's a reiserfs file system
[03:50] <mm> snoops: Yes, from yesterday it isnt rc anymore
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> 933 ppl and no help
[03:50] <teledyn> mm sasl is an auth protocol that is used by smtp among other things.  but imap is the imap protocol so i'm confused
[03:50] <bug> hi everyone.. does anyone know how to properly install firefox 2 in ubuntu? (without using /opt)
[03:50] <ZorK> joona: anything?
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> this place used to be great
[03:51] <snoops> ah, good to hear, is there a site with pictures/screenshots/demos of the differences between the new apps in edgy compared to dapper mm?
[03:51] <mm> teledyn: as I said cyrus is also IMAP ;)
[03:51] <teledyn> mm: you'd definitely want a secure auth mechanism like sasl for imap, but i don't know where smtp protocol gets involved
[03:51] <mm> teledyn: but has also a SASL
[03:51] <teledyn> mm: cyrus is an imapd
[03:51] <joona> ZorK: i was smoking
[03:52] <joona> and now on phone with my boss
[03:52] <mm> teledyn: Right. As I said.
[03:52] <joona> so sec...
[03:52] <teledyn> mm: yes, but what does that have to do with smtp?
[03:52] <ZorK> joona: lol okay, thats life :P
[03:52] <mm> teledyn: But when you know SASL, you should have heard about cyrus-sasl ;)
[03:53] <dcordes> how can i create new tool outlines in the gimp?
[03:53] <teledyn> mm: dude i've set up sasl auth many times, but what you are saying still doesn't make sense to me
[03:53] <avalost> I am having trouble with alsa it seems, upgraded yesterday and when i try to start esd i get this:
[03:53] <mm> teledyn: And if you dont know what sasl has to do with smtp then sorry for you.
[03:53] <avalost>  esd &
[03:53] <avalost> [2]  28528
[03:53] <avalost> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:790:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to create IPC semaphore
[03:53] <theplatypus> does anyone know the official release date for edgy?
[03:54] <teledyn> mm: no you don't know what imap has to do with smtp because they're completely unrelated protocols for totally different daemons
[03:54] <feydin> no one to my raid / reiserfs issue?
[03:54] <thoreauputic> theplatypus, October 26
[03:54] <teledyn> get a clue
[03:54] <damnbets> hello
[03:54] <damnbets> how can i block a website with iptables?
[03:55] <avalost> damnbets:  hosts.deny
[03:55] <mm> teledyn: Oh real? Shit, I have to go back to school ;) What are you talking about? I never said something about imap being the same as smtp
[03:55] <pluto_> Can anyone help configure my ISA sound card in 6.06?
[03:55] <bug> damnbets: the best way would to it would to use moblock (moblock-deb.sourceforge.net)
 Hey there.. Is there somewhere a place where I can look for what is planned to get in the dapper-backports? because I want to see if Postfix 2.3 and Dovecot 1.0rc will go there soon.. Because below that versions I cant use SMTP AUTH through Dovecot SASL.. Or do I have to use the edgy packages..?
[03:55] <damnbets> avalost: i will find this file and i ll try to block:)
[03:55] <mm> teledyn: I think you didnt want to understand my english, but I am sorry I am no native speaker
[03:55] <avalost> damnbets: /etc/hosts.deny
[03:55] <mm> teledyn: read it
[03:56] <damnbets> bug: my friends come to my house and use my internet to play bets, and i dont like this thing
[03:56] <avalost> just add the base domain blah.com or whatever
[03:56] <damnbets> so...
[03:56] <damnbets> i want when they try to open mozilla, to say something like "unable to connect"
[03:56] <damnbets> :)
[03:56] <teledyn> mm: <mm> ... " I cant use SMTP AUTH through Dovecot SASL"...
[03:56] <avalost> damnbets: hosts.deny will do that
[03:56] <damnbets> to open the sites i dont like i wanted to say
[03:56] <damnbets> okay
[03:56] <per> how do i open tar.gz in ubuntu 5.0.5
[03:56] <damnbets> i will try
[03:56] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: im here sort of
[03:56] <avalost> per do tar -zxvf name.of.tar.gz
[03:57] <fulat2k> anyone here successfully installed ubuntu on a 965 chipset pc?
[03:57] <theplatypus> thoreauputic : thanks, now I see it on distrowatch
[03:57] <per> thanks i give it a try :)
[03:57] <ShaDoW_LnX> per: tar- xzvf file.tar.gz
[03:57] <gnomefreak> 5.0.5?
[03:57] <avalost> anyone have any ideas on this after doing "esd &" : ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:790:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to create IPC semaphore
[03:57] <ShaDoW_LnX> mmm im lagged.
[03:57] <avalost> ?
[03:57] <pluto_> Anyone using Xubuntu?
[03:58] <joona> ZorK: sry, i gotta go and get on with my work :(
[03:58] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: hopefully you can help me, I switched on my comp this morning only to see that while it is starting up it began a check on the filesystem in hda1....when it gets around 20% into this check it says failed and im unable to complete starting up??? Im running from the live cd right now
[03:58] <gnomefreak> pluto_: #xubuntu might find more people
[03:58] <bokey> pluto_, #xubuntu . but what's wrong ?
[03:58] <joona> ZorK: i suggest you to go the easy way: boot to windows, and back up your data from there to external drive
[03:58] <joona> then you can format the HD from ubuntu livecd the way you want and get on with installation
[03:58] <ZorK> joona: I cant boot anything on windows, ill just format to fat32 and copy it
[03:58] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: can you boot in single user mode or safe mode whatever its called in dapper?
[03:58] <joona> ZorK: ye
[03:58] <pluto_> bokey: Nothing wrong.  I'm using some older hardware and thinking of tryin Xubunt to speed up my system.
[03:58] <feydin> or is it usuas that reiserfs checks every start the filesystem?
[03:58] <feydin> *usual
[03:59] <damnbets> well, seems not to work
[03:59] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: oh, is that done during grub by pressing escape
[03:59] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: what file system?
[03:59] <ZorK> joona: thank you for all your help :) Hope to see you again soon!
[03:59] <Paddy_EIRE> ext3
[03:59] <pluto_> bokey: actually, I cannot get Ubuntu to detect my ISA sound card.  Any ideas?
[03:59] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: ther eis a boot option in grub for it
[03:59] <damnbets> i edited hosts.deny as root, and i added the host
[03:59] <joona> zork: yeah, no problem and hope everything works out fine for you!
[03:59] <bokey> pluto_, ok. xfce is a no nonnsense wm. it's fast.
[03:59] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: thx man you're always of great help :)
[03:59] <mm> teledyn: What do you want to tell me?
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> will be back later
[04:00] <teledyn> mm: i was just trying to ascertain what you meant by that statement, because it didn't make sense
[04:00] <tazz> what version kernel do we use in ubuntu 6.06?
[04:00] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: if it runs through fine try rebooting the normal boot option
[04:00] <gnomefreak> tazz: 2.6.15
[04:00] <teledyn> mm: what does smtp auth have to do with an imap server like dovecot?
[04:00] <Alakazamz0r> 2.6 tazz
[04:00] <feydin> i always make a clean shutdown, but reiserfs checks _every_ boot if there are transactions to be replayed.... :(
[04:00] <mm> I want to switch cyrus-sasl to dovecot-sasl
[04:00] <tazz> ah thanks guys :-)
[04:00] <Alakazamz0r> teledyn it makes it to where your server isnt an open SMTP relay.
[04:00] <teledyn> mm: ah ok
[04:01] <Alakazamz0r> oh
[04:01] <Alakazamz0r> heh
[04:01] <teledyn> Alakazamz0r: an imap server being  an open SMTP relay?  really?
[04:01] <Alakazamz0r> teledyn no.
[04:01] <Alakazamz0r> dont be silly.
[04:01] <teledyn> i think you are confusing SMTP and SASL.
[04:01] <pluto_> bokey: I had a difficult time getting my xorg.conf file set right for my hardware.  If I make the switch to Xubuntu, can I simply copy over the xorg.conf file?
[04:01] <mm> teledyn: Do you know the german word "Wortverdreher"?
[04:01] <teledyn> SASL is just a generic auth mechanism that any app can use.
[04:02] <Alakazamz0r> you said what does smtp auth  have to do with an pop server
[04:02] <Alakazamz0r> it DOES have something to do w/a pop server... cause USUALLY when someone has a pop server installed they have an SMTP server installed.
[04:02] <teledyn> mm: was bedeuted verdrehen?
[04:02] <Alakazamz0r> correct?
[04:02] <teledyn> mm: ich kann es vorstellen
[04:02] <bokey> pluto_, you don't need to mess with your xorg.conf with xubuntu. it should work fine with xfce. what wm are you using atm ?
[04:02] <mm> teledyn: Thats wrong, the application does have to need the support for it. And Postfix -2.3 has only cyrus-sasl support
[04:03] <pluto_> bokey: I'm a newbie.  what is wm and atm?
[04:03] <teledyn> mm: is your imap server talking to a postfix server?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> pluto_: wm=window manager atm = at the moment
[04:04] <mm> teledyn: But all I wanted to know was if I can see somewhere if its planned to get postfix 2.3 as backport into dapper
[04:04] <mm> teledyn: no but the sasl is talking to it
[04:04] <bokey> pluto_, wm is window manager. Gnome, KDE, xfce which runs on top of your Ubuntu kernel. similar to explorer.exe in windows if you prefer. :)
[04:04] <teledyn> mm: what do you mean by that?  i don't understand.  does your dovecot for some reason need to auth against postfix?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> mm: i dont think postfix will be backported to dapper
[04:05] <mm> teledyn: it is, like @ cyrus a seperate process
[04:05] <bokey> pluto_, have you correctly configured your xorg.conf to diplay properly ?
[04:05] <mm> teledyn: again dovecot isnt only imap or smtp, there is als a sasl-"daemon"
[04:06] <mrbond82> Stupid distro of the week--Mandriva 2007 Mini CD ISO... does NOT include a dhcp client so that you are unable to even access the internet off a base install.... go figure that one out !
[04:06] <pluto_> bokey: I'm using Gnome.
[04:06] <teledyn> mm: why do you care which auth mechanism dovecot is using?
[04:06] <bokey> pluto_, so you want xfce now. do this "sudo apt-get install xfce4".
[04:06] <Alakazamz0r> mrbond82 i doubt that.
[04:06] <bokey> !xubuntu > pluto
[04:06] <Alakazamz0r> mrbond82 its probably a different dhcp client.
[04:06] <bokey> !xubuntu > pluto_
[04:07] <pluto_> bokey: I beleive so.  I finally have the display set at 1024 X 768 with 85 hz refresh.
[04:07] <pluto_> bokey: Oh. I can install the wm like I did with KDE?
[04:07] <teledyn> mm: as long as it supports whatever protocols your client(s) use
[04:07] <mm> teledyn: I dont care. Again, I dont talked about the IMAP at any time! ;)
[04:07] <mrbond82> Alakazamz0r:  there wasn't any dhcp client in the package list of the install. .... its okay, I switched to ubuntu :P
[04:08] <bokey> pluto_, yeah. xfce is a wm like KDE just apt-get it and that will sort out xfce for you. :)
[04:08] <teledyn> mm: ok. sorry but i am confused reading you.  i'm not sure what your issue is.
[04:08] <thoreauputic> !info xubuntu-desktop
[04:08] <teledyn> vielleicht auf deutsch wrde es etwas klrer sein
[04:08] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.32 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 36 kB
[04:09] <teledyn> klarer
[04:09] <peter_12312> hey guys, sudo apt-get install apt-spy isnt helping me to get it installed, any suggestions?
[04:09] <pluto_> bokey: thanks.
[04:09] <thoreauputic> !info apt-spy
[04:09] <ubotu> apt-spy: writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-14 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 176 kB
[04:10] <thoreauputic> peter_12312, you need the universe repository
[04:10] <teledyn> peter_12312: is the universe line in your sources.list uncommented?
[04:10] <mm> teledyn: I am too ;) My issue I said in the frist sentence: I want to know it Postfix 2.3 and Dovecot 1.0 have a chance to be backported for dapper. Someone dont have to understand the connection to answer the question :)
[04:10] <bokey> pluto_, no probs.
[04:10] <peter_12312> just got it off the net...thanks guys
[04:10] <[Big] Endian> Hi Folks, i`ve got a question =)
[04:11] <[Big] Endian> is there anybody who has 3d-acceleration on dualhead with an ati graphics adapter?
[04:11] <teledyn> mm: i don't know if they are.  but if they're critical servers for your company you might want to just compile your own packages from source anyway
[04:11] <bokey> !ask
[04:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:11] <[Big] Endian> sry
[04:11] <mm> teledyn: Okay I have two links perhaps if you want to know what I want: http://wiki.dovecot.org/PostfixAndDovecotSASL and http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#server_dovecot :)
[04:11] <teledyn> mm: i would tend not to rely on backports for critical servers
[04:11] <bokey> [Big] Endian, you should be able to find info regarding nvidia/ati in google. there are plenty of info of those 2 cards.
[04:12] <[Big] Endian> sry i found nothing
[04:12] <devilz> hi i tried sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl compiz compiz-core compiz-plugins compiz-gnome gnome-compiz-manager cgwd cgwd-themes
[04:12] <devilz> but i get E: Couldn't find package gnome-compiz-manager
[04:12] <[Big] Endian> even in diffrent forums nobody has given me an answer
[04:12] <mm> teledyn: And I would tend not to compile it myself becaus I want to have security updates via apt
[04:13] <gnomefreak> devilz: please ask in #ubuntu-xgl they might be more help
[04:13] <teledyn> mm: ah ok
[04:13] <teledyn> mm: i see what this is.
[04:13] <[Big] Endian> i`e got an ati x550, in singlemode the 3 dacceleration works fine, but in dualhead i loose it
[04:14] <mm> teledyn: Great ;)
[04:14] <bokey> [Big] Endian, what's your objective ?
[04:14] <teledyn> mm: i don't know man.  for a really serious setup you might want to consider some kind of unified ldap auth for both your postfix and dovecot
[04:14] <pluto_> If I understand, modifying the xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 makes the changes for all users on the system (globally)?
[04:14] <bokey> [Big] Endian, dual head as in dual display. am i right here ?
[04:15] <thoreauputic> pluto_, yes
[04:15] <bokey> pluto_, yeah it does.
[04:15] <[Big] Endian> my objective is, that i want to have a 3d-accleration on dualhead
[04:15] <[Big] Endian> bokey: yes, your`e right
[04:15] <mm> teledyn: I never used LDAP and its a private server.. no big iron.. :)
[04:15] <frederick85> How do I install C and C++ man pages on Ubuntu
[04:15] <peter_12312> ok, I want to get the latest stuff from mirrors in china using apt-spy.  Is the command like this ?  apt-spy -d edgy -a cn
[04:15] <St_MPA3b> how can i change desctop freq? I have nvidia drivers installed. @ 1600x1200 i have 106h*85v in Linux & 120h*100h in Win...
[04:15] <St_MPA3b> how can i change desctop freq? I have nvidia drivers installed. @ 1600x1200 i have 106h*85v in Linux & 120h*100h in Win...
[04:16] <bokey> [Big] Endian, don't know about *3d* acceleration. but if you want dual display, you need to get some tools and modify your xorg.conf file.
[04:16] <[Big] Endian> i got dualhead working, but without 3d accelration
[04:16] <bokey> [Big] Endian, I am not the person to ask then, someone else maybe ?
[04:16] <Zaggynl> St_MPA3b, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add _100 to the resolution you use
[04:16] <[Big] Endian> ok, but thanks!
[04:16] <pluto_> bokey: If an individual user wanted to they then could edit a .file in their home directory to make the changes apply to only that user?
[04:17] <micael71> hello anyone knows how i can get amule
[04:17] <Zaggynl> St_MPA3b, like this: 'Modes      "1280x1024_60" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"'
[04:17] <St_MPA3b> ^^ i mean freq
[04:17] <frederick85> How Do I install the Man pages for c and c++
[04:17] <bokey> pluto_, if you want then just put xorg.conf in your ~pluto_ , that will get read before /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[04:17] <St_MPA3b> i have 1600x1200 in that conf and i'm using it right now
[04:17] <St_MPA3b> but frequensy is bad
[04:17] <St_MPA3b> Section "Monitor"
[04:17] <St_MPA3b> 	Identifier	"Generic Monitor"
[04:17] <St_MPA3b> 	Option		"DPMS"
[04:17] <St_MPA3b> 	HorizSync	60-160
[04:17] <St_MPA3b> 	VertRefresh	60-180
[04:18] <Zaggynl> St_MPA3b, please do not paste a lot of lines in here
[04:18] <pluto_> bokey: Ah.  This linux stuff is cool!
[04:18] <Zaggynl> use pastebin.ca for that
[04:18] <St_MPA3b> i need horiz 100 and vert 120 (i have it @ windows)
[04:18] <bokey> pluto_, yeah it rocks my world!
[04:19] <Zaggynl> St_MPA3b, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186021
[04:19] <bokey> pluto_, with linux it's very important to read manual pages, because there are stuffs that you need to understand before you trash your system. start with "man man" at your terminal,
[04:19] <kmaynard> google helps
[04:20] <St_MPA3b> Zaggynl ty...
[04:20] <bokey> kmaynard, yeah, unless you are in a remote island without internet connection. :) then you are doomed. :)
[04:21] <micael71> anyone knows amule
[04:21] <bokey> !p2p > micael71
[04:22] <micael71> thanks bokey
[04:22] <bokey> micael71, no probs.
[04:22] <kmaynard> remote islands suck
[04:23] <St_MPA3b>      Modes           "1280x1024_75"
[04:23] <St_MPA3b> ty... it works
[04:23] <Zaggynl> that's it :)
[04:23] <pluto_> bokey: Thanks for the tip.
[04:23] <cute_bettong> anyone know how to edit the pictures for the screensaver in gnome in ubuntu?
[04:23] <cute_bettong> i cannot seem to find the pictures
[04:23] <cute_bettong> or the folder
[04:23] <bokey> pluto_, no probs.
[04:24] <bokey> !gimp > cute_bettong
[04:24] <cute_bettong> no i know of gimp
[04:24] <bokey> cute_bettong, what you mean ?
[04:24] <cute_bettong> i wrote a howto for it
[04:24] <kmaynard> great linux tutorial: http://www.chongluo.com/books/rute/
[04:24] <cute_bettong> in the screensavers
[04:24] <wiking> is here comand for terminal for screen clearing???
[04:24] <bokey> wiking, clear
[04:24] <david_> hidiho ...
[04:24] <bokey> wiking, also reset, tset
[04:24] <cute_bettong> there is a (windows equivilent of my pictures) and i cannot find the folder on my hard drive
[04:24] <ccooke> wiking: 'reset' is best.
[04:25] <cute_bettong> it has the ubuntu picture screensavers and such
[04:25] <wiking> Thanx!!!
[04:25] <bokey> cute_bettong, is it hidden folder ?
[04:25] <bokey> wiking, no probs
[04:25] <cute_bettong> i don't know
[04:25] <ccooke> wiking: hell, 'echo -en "\E[2J\Ec"' will do the job, too ;-)
[04:26] <david_> is there any solution to fix the gstreamer samba bug?
[04:27] <bokey> cute_bettong, go to that directory and do "ls -al". if you don't know that dir, then do locate that_folder_name, if you don't know that that it's only an image format (.jpeg,.gif etc..), then do find / -name *.jpeg -print0
[04:27] <Kalisto> Is there an app i can load into my Gnome Panel that where i can display multiple times around the world at the same time? or where could i look for one?
[04:27] <thor> cute_bettong: the pictures should go into ~/Pictures
[04:27] <cute_bettong> thank you
[04:27] <Stormx2> Hey folks. I'm gonna have to buy a new graphics card soon. I wanna buy a good one, because my current one only support late-90s-era games. I also want it to have good support in ubuntu linux and such. I also want it to be able to run XGL. Does anyone have any suggestions/pointers?
[04:28] <thoreauputic> Kalisto,  gworldclock
[04:28] <thoreauputic> !info gworldclock
[04:28] <ubotu> gworldclock: Displays time and date in specified time zones. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.4-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 35 kB, installed size 156 kB
[04:28] <bokey> Stormx2, I don't think the games scene has yet changed in *any* of the Gnu/Linux kernel. :( If anyone knows better please tell me.
[04:28] <Kalisto> Stormx2, get Nvidia
[04:29] <Stormx2> Kalisto: Okay.
[04:29] <Lynoure> Kalisto: which Nvidia one?
[04:29] <Kalisto> Stormx2, ATI drivers for linux are terrible.. late
[04:29] <chriscroz> hello
[04:30] <bokey> Kalisto, it's not possible to run CS on Linux ? right ?
[04:30] <Kalisto> Lynoure, which one.. cant help you with that.. i just know that ATI are terrible
[04:30] <Kalisto> bokey, yes you can play CS on linux
[04:30] <bokey> Kalisto, can you just point the link, i'll read it myself. thanks.
[04:30] <Kalisto> bokey, check out.. google transgaming
[04:30] <chriscroz> can somebody help with a question about xgl?
[04:30] <CokeNCode> so, when is firefox 2 gonna be automatically updated on unbuntu ?
[04:30] <bokey> Kalisto, thats cool. thanks
[04:30] <mrbond82> Kalisto- how can you play CS in linux?
[04:31] <totall_6_7> ccooke: maybe if i understand what you want. Maybe this is what you want /usr/share/pixmaps/
[04:31] <LiN01> hello all: does ubuntu work with USB modem? i have a speedtouch 330 USB modem
[04:31] <Stormx2> Kalisto: What nvidia card should I get? What kind of price range are they in? I don't want something brand spanking new which will cost me loads. I have no idea how much graphic cards cost
[04:31] <Kalisto> mrbond82, using wine or cedega.. google them both ;D
[04:31] <see> hello i get this constant error> hda: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)     it is on a mac pro  any ideas how to fix this
[04:31] <mrbond82> Kalisto: will wine do it? why would I pay for cedaga if I can use wine?
[04:31] <Stormx2> mrbond82: cedega is specifically tuned for games.
[04:32] <Kalisto> Stormx2, i really cant help you with that.. i have not looked into the gfx card market for a while.. might want to ask someone else
[04:32] <bokey> Kalisto, geez! not wine!, I meant natively. :(
[04:32] <LiN01> hello all: does ubuntu work with USB modem? i have a speedtouch 330 USB modem
[04:32] <Kalisto> mrbond82, Cedega preconfigured to run games like CS... while wine you have to do that all yourself
[04:32] <Lynoure> Stormx2: prices you cas see online, but I do not even know if all of the cards have even a non-free Linux driver
[04:33] <njan> LiN01, that modem is supported under linux, but it's not massively easy to get working, you may find yourself fiddling.
[04:33] <njan> LiN01, http://www.xs4all.nl/~pschram/english.html
[04:33] <cute_bettong> thor i am haveing problems still locateing the folder
[04:33] <Kalisto> bokey, lol native.. well then you need to get games that are built for linux.. such as Unreal Tourney.. there is a handfull.. but not many
[04:33] <cute_bettong> can you help me?
[04:33] <mrbond82> kalisto how much work is involved with wine?
[04:33] <LiN01> hmmm damz
[04:33] <totall_6_7> ccooke: maybe if i understand what you want. Maybe this is what you want /usr/share/pixmaps/
[04:33] <Lynoure> cute_bettong: what folder?
[04:33] <sidny4> how do I get the screen with the ubuntu logo and what modules are being loaded to show on my laptop
[04:33] <totall_6_7> cute_bettong:  maybe if i understand what you want. Maybe this is what you want /usr/share/pixmaps/
[04:33] <Kalisto> mrbond82, quite a lot of work with wine.. Cedega/Transgaming is a lot better
[04:33] <sidny4> like at boot-up
[04:33] <thor> cute_bettong: you need to create that folder and copy or link your pictures into it. That folder is where the gnome screensaver will look
[04:34] <LiN01> njan: somebody from a belgium linux group told me that ubuntu can install it easly with a Wizard ...
[04:34] <bokey> Kalisto, yeah man.. they don't release the source at all. how many of the closed source games have released their GPLed version ?
[04:34] <LiN01> njan: he told me i have to look into the internet options
[04:34] <njan> LiN01, possibly, I haven't done it.
[04:34] <njan> LiN01, not in ubuntu, anyway..
[04:34] <Kalisto> bokey, hardly any
[04:34] <dfgas> how do i make a deb?
[04:34] <njan> LiN01, last time I configured one of those there was fiddling required.
[04:34] <LiN01> njan: pfff
[04:34] <thor> cute_bettong: that folder needs to be in your home directory (~)
[04:34] <optimusprime> how do you upgrade to the new firefox release?
[04:34] <LiN01> njan: what is fiddling ?
[04:35] <teledyn> dfgas: read the debian new maintainers guide
[04:35] <jrib> dfgas: help.ubuntu.com has a tutorial for packaging.  If you just need a basic one for your personal management needs, then checkout checkinstall
[04:35] <njan> LiN01, fiddling is what the page I linked you to tells you how to do.
[04:35] <bokey> Kalisto, we the Linux users are loosers in that aspect. Wouldn't anyone buy CS if they released their binary equivalent atleast ? I would!
[04:35] <sidny4> how do I get the screen with the ubuntu logo and what modules are being loaded at boot-up to show on my laptop
[04:35] <jrib> ubotu: tell dfgas about checkinstall
[04:36] <scheuri> hi all
[04:36] <Kalisto> bokey, yes but look at the demand.. Linux is not anywhere near MS users
[04:36] <bokey> !checkinstall
[04:36] <Chimere> I have a problem, gdm won't start.
[04:36] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[04:36] <LiN01> njan: okay thank you very much, last question when i will try to install this driver my modem will not get broken right ?
[04:36] <bokey> Kalisto, yeah true.
[04:36] <LiN01> njan: i don't have to install software on the hardware of my modem right?
[04:36] <LiN01> njan: its only software ..
[04:36] <njan> LiN01, it's unlikely, but I couldn't tell you for sure. Free Software doesn't come with guarantees. :)
[04:36] <LiN01> njan: okay i will see what i can do thanks for the help
[04:37] <Chimere> Well i can login to gdm (dos terminal mod), but the previous graphic way is unvailable, how to reinstall completely gdm?
[04:37] <bokey> 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' > Chimere
[04:38] <bokey> Fedora6 is released guys! head to head with Edgy now! hehe..
[04:38] <scheuri> bokey: what can fedora what ubuntu can't? ;)
[04:38] <Chimere> I had this error bokey : X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[04:38] <Chimere>   Major opcode:  147
[04:38] <Chimere>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:38] <Chimere>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:38] <Chimere> Failed to open device
[04:38] <Chimere> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[04:38] <Chimere>   Major opcode:  147
[04:38] <Chimere>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:38] <Chimere>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:39] <Chimere> Failed to open device
[04:39] <Chimere>  * Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...  * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[04:39] <scheuri> arrr
[04:39] <Chimere>                                                                          [ ok
[04:39] <Chimere> sorry
[04:39] <scheuri> !nopaste
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nopaste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <bokey> scheuri, I use Ubuntu bro. :) Just mentioned it.
[04:39] <ZorK> In terminal when i write 'pwd' i get the folder i am in, how do i change what folder i am in, so i can backup there?
[04:39] <bokey> Chimere, sorry bro, no idea.
[04:39] <scheuri> bokey: and I did not mean it as an attack...I was serious...:)
[04:39] <jrib> ZorK: cd /some/folder
[04:40] <wickedpuppy>  !pastebin
[04:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:40] <jokoon> Hello, I have a problem : I installed ubuntu on hdb3, while hdb1 and hdb2 were NTFS partitons. I recently deleted hdb2 to clean it, and now GRUB tells me an error 17. I'm using the live CD right now, and it logically seems that the partition where ubuntu were installed is now hdb2 instead of hdb3, because there is an empty space instead of the old hdb2. It is quite annoying since I can't even use windows now (not such a pain but ... whatever)
[04:40] <puneit> can any one tell me how do I add extra settings for a bluetooth modem in dapper
[04:40] <Chimere> Ok, i will reinstall ubuntu.
[04:40] <jrib> ubotu: tell ZorK about cli
[04:40] <Chimere> :)
[04:40] <scheuri> Chimere: wait
[04:40] <bokey> scheuri, don't know, possibly less, possibly more ?
[04:40] <bokey> scheuri, it's shipping with 2.6.18
[04:41] <scheuri> Chimere: dont just reinstall it...try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:41] <scheuri> bokey: what is edgy supposed to ship with?
[04:41] <Chimere> I already did that, i tried almost everything, gdm just won't start (i mean graphically)
[04:42] <scheuri> Chimere: have you installed anything between GDM working and non-working?
[04:42] <jrib> Chimere: pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log, maybe someone can see what is wrong
[04:42] <thor> Chimere: are you booting into init5 or init3?
[04:42] <bokey> scheuri, edgy comes with 2.6.17 bro
[04:42] <scheuri> bokey: thanks...hmmm...2.6.17...well...
[04:43] <scheuri> like Etch...with Etch MAYBE coming with 2.6.18
[04:43] <ragnar_123> is there anything that doesn't  work properly on a acer aspire 3633 wlmi ?
[04:43] <Chimere> I think that problem began when i tried to install xgl + beryl...
[04:43] <scheuri> Chimere: ah....
[04:43] <ragnar_123> i am thinking of buying oneif those,,
[04:43] <ragnar_123> one of*
[04:44] <scheuri> Chimere: do you have nvidia or ati?
[04:44] <bokey> scheuri, has anyone read the changelon between 2.6.17 and 2.6.18 ?
[04:44] <scheuri> bokey: I did not...
[04:44] <Chimere> nvidia.
[04:44] <ragnar_123> anyone here in channel sitting on a acer aspire 3633wlmi?
[04:44] <Kefir> ragnar_123, I have aspire 5021wlmi. :D
[04:45] <bokey> ragnar_123, not me bro.
[04:45] <ZorK> how do i rename a folder via terminal? i need to rename "Ekstern Harddisk" to "extern"
[04:45] <scheuri> Chimere: in your xorg.conf is there a nv or nvidia as driver?
[04:45] <Chimere> I have a beryl icon on my Gnome desktop, but there are no effects, nothing, can i know why? :)
[04:46] <Chimere> nvidia.
[04:46] <ragnar_123> i read here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsAcer, that wireless isn't working, can it be fixed?
[04:46] <scheuri> Chimere: try and replace it with a nv....
[04:46] <bryanl> does edgy have apache 2.2?
[04:46] <scheuri> !apache
[04:46] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[04:46] <Kefir> ZorK, type "mv folder_name new_folder_name"
[04:46] <mathieu_> is there an undo move message button in evolution ?
[04:46] <scheuri> oppss
[04:47] <sleon> hi
[04:47] <sleon> were is wine under ubuntu ?
[04:47] <sleon> which packege?!
[04:47] <scheuri> sleon: it should be wine...but maybe you need repositories like universe or multiverse
[04:47] <sleon> scheuri: there is no wine package
[04:47] <Chimere> I'll try scheuri.
[04:47] <sleon> ok i look at repos i have
[04:48] <bokey> !iptables
[04:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:48] <scheuri> sleon: its actually universe...
[04:48] <Kefir> ragnar_123, is wifi in 3633 broadcom?
[04:48] <jmspeex> Edgy's blank screen on lid close has a bad habit of screwing up my X server. Any idea how to fix that?
[04:49] <jokoon> Hello, I have a problem : I installed ubuntu on hdb3, while hdb1 and hdb2 were NTFS partitons. I recently deleted hdb2 to clean it, and now GRUB tells me an error 17. I'm using the live CD right now, and it logically seems that the partition where ubuntu were installed is now hdb2 instead of hdb3, because there is an empty space instead of the old hdb2. It is quite annoying since I can't even use windows now (not such a pain but ... whatever)
[04:49] <Kefir> ragnar_123, I checked it out. You can use wireless on this laptop if you install ndswrapper.
[04:50] <scheuri> jokoon: have you tried to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[04:50] <Kefir> ragnar_123, short answer - wifi will work on 3633 aspire
[04:50] <sleon>  scheuri 64bit wine ??
[04:50] <scheuri> sleon: oh...that you did not mention...I am on good old 32bit
[04:50] <jokoon> scheuri: no ! but it seems a great idea !
[04:51] <sleon> scheuri: scheuri ha!
[04:51] <scheuri> jokoon: well, my idea is, that grub still looks on hdb3 instead of hdb2 (which now seems to be your ubuntu-HD)
[04:51] <sleon> anyone idea where to get 64bit wine for ubuntu??
[04:51] <scheuri> sleon: does 32bit not work?
[04:51] <ragnar_123> kefir: nice
[04:51] <jokoon> scheuri: hum sorry yes, I tried, but nothing really significative, I try to edit it again
[04:51] <elia> hello
[04:52] <sleon> scheuri: apt-get does not show wine!
[04:52] <sleon> scheuri: it shows only 64bit
[04:52] <sleon> scheuri: nix wine
[04:52] <scheuri> jokoon: oh...okay...that was my idea...that grub did not realise that its different now...everything needs to be altered
[04:52] <elia> somebody tell me please what I can do , just why mi pc is slowly using ubuntu, sorry my english
[04:52] <scheuri> sleon: hast du die richtigen repos in der source.list?
[04:52] <ragnar_123> thanks a lot, Kefir.. well, i will go buy one.. now
[04:53] <Qaldune> hi
[04:53] <scheuri> sleon: sorry...do you have the right repos in your source.list?
[04:53] <Qaldune> what should i do to play dvds on ubuntu dapper??
[04:53] <kai_> #ubuntu-de
[04:53] <jokoon> scheuri: "altered" ... ?
[04:53] <scheuri> ragnar_123: take your live-CD with you....and boot with it
[04:53] <Qaldune> is dvd support enabled by default??
[04:53] <Kefir> ragnar_123, np. :D
[04:53] <bokey> !dvd > Qaldune
[04:53] <scheuri> jokoon: yes...the menu.lst...it probably has all entries pointing to hdb3 instead of hdb2
[04:53] <Qaldune> ok
[04:53] <Qaldune> thx bokey
[04:54] <bokey> Qaldune, no probs.
[04:54] <samuel__> i need some help...
[04:54] <elia> I need help
[04:55] <samuel__> i whant to play avi movies... so i install xine...
[04:55] <bokey> everyone needs help. why not make a #me-too-need-help channel ? :)
[04:55] <Kefir> samuel__, what seems to be the problem?
[04:55] <samuel__> but xine gives me segmentation fault all the time so i install a few other players...
[04:55] <samuel__> but its the same thing with them...
[04:55] <elia> boo    so funny
[04:55] <scheuri> !restricted
[04:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:55] <samuel__> iam on hoary...
[04:55] <lami> hi
[04:56] <bokey> samuel__, did you compile your own or apt'ed it ?
[04:56] <tec> hi how do i make applications run automatically at login...
[04:56] <samuel__> i apt-get it//
[04:56] <bokey> samuel__, what repos did you use ?
[04:56] <samuel__> i apt-get all of them..
[04:56] <Kefir> tec, System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[04:56] <Yokz-8> Hallo
[04:56] <lami> i have a quest. when I use apt I see "segmentation fault" what I shut to do?
[04:56] <lami> could somebody help me?
[04:56] <Kefir> tec, and add your program there
[04:57] <jbroome> !ask
[04:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:57] <scheuri> lami: have you tried to type "sudo aptitude update"?
[04:57] <tec> using commands?
[04:57] <lami> I tried dpkg --configure -a
[04:57] <samuel__> bokey how do i check what one i used?
[04:57] <elia> my ubuntu is very slowly please help me
[04:57] <sebsebseb> weel seems no one is going to help me in Ubuntu+1  at the moment
[04:57] <sebsebseb> so
[04:57] <tec> wait where do i find the equivalent of windows program files
[04:57] <sebsebseb> I will try here
[04:57] <lami> and nothing synaptic it`s broken
[04:57] <bokey> !apt > samuel__
[04:57] <Kefir> tec, what do u mean?
[04:58] <bokey> samuel__, ubuntu menu > system > administrator > synaptic ? got it ?
[04:58] <lami> my quest its what I shut to do with "Segmentation fault" how I can find bad package
[04:58] <lami> me?
[04:59] <samuel__> bokey yeah iam in synaptic
[04:59] <lami> synaptic it`s broken
[04:59] <sebsebseb> When it opens up the GDM  it gives me this message:  The greeter application appears to be crashing.  Attempting to use another one.  Then now well I got the default theme again ;)  ,but it seems to not be disaplying quite right.   When I log out of KDE I get this: The application The KDE Session Manager (ksmserver) crashed and caused the signal 11, (SIGSEGV)
[04:59] <tec> how do i select the apps.... i mean where do i find the launchers in what path
[04:59] <sebsebseb> any idea how to fix this?
[04:59] <bokey> samuel__, ok then go to settings > repositories
[04:59] <samuel__> bokey done
[04:59] <lami> any idea for segmentation fault? maybe another command than --configure ...
[05:00] <bokey> samuel__, have you got any unofficial repositories listed there ?
[05:00] <samuel__> bokey and now..?
[05:00] <variant> lami: that doesnt sound good
[05:00] <Qaldune> sebsebseb have u tried in #kubuntu?
[05:00] <variant> lami: what are you running?
[05:00] <Kefir> tec, you can do a "whereis gedit" or open up Alacarte menu editor and find your up
[05:00] <sebsebseb> no I have not tryed in that channel
[05:00] <samuel__> bokey no i dont...
[05:00] <sebsebseb> ,but might as well
[05:00] <Qaldune> maybe they can help you
[05:01] <sebsebseb> and I have both here Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[05:01] <nippur_toyocupao> i'm waiting for ubuntu 6.10! :D
[05:01] <lami> I upgraded system :)
[05:01] <Qaldune> i don't anybody here can tell u anything about that
[05:01] <bokey> samuel__, let me look it up. wait.
[05:01] <Qaldune> seems too obscure prob
[05:01] <samuel__> bokey ok
[05:01] <Qaldune> i don't think anybody sorry
[05:01] <variant> lami: fine, and what is causing the segfault?
[05:01] <nippur_toyocupao> i hope can download tomorrow
[05:01] <Kefir> tec, or go to synaptic, find the program and see it's properties -> instal files or smth
[05:02] <jokoon> scheuri: thanks, I feared a little when it said that I didn't have the rights, but I remembered sudo gedit. I ctrl h all entries with root=/dev/hdb3 to root=/dev/hdb2
[05:02] <jokoon> Thanks again !
[05:02] <jokoon> byebye
[05:02] <lami> variant: I show you sudo apt-get install cbrpages
[05:02] <lami> Password:
[05:02] <lami> Czytanie list pakietw... Gotowe
[05:02] <lami> Segmentation faultalenoci... 0%
[05:03] <lami> 3rd line means reading list....ready
[05:03] <lami> it`s just example
[05:03] <langelot> hello everybody
[05:03] <lami> hallo
[05:04] <selinuxium> Hi all, has anyone here connected a VPN to a Border Manager server using ipsec?
[05:04] <variant> lami: looks liek a program is program is broken
[05:04] <variant> somthing that apt-get calls
[05:04] <variant> lami: your polish?
[05:04] <lami> exactly :)
[05:05] <langelot> who has compiled Xorg ?
[05:05] <lami> it`s polish lanmguage
[05:05] <variant> lami: which country do you live in? (poland being the least likely :))
[05:05] <lami> yes in poland :P
[05:06] <variant> wow, how rare :P
[05:06] <langelot> i am french so my english will be bad
[05:06] <langelot> but who knows about compiling x server xorg ???
[05:06] <lami> yeach :P
[05:07] <lami> langelot I dont good english :)
[05:07] <samuel__> bokey find anything?
[05:07] <wiking> how to "teach" konsole to support more ASCII symbols (like DOS borders)
[05:07] <bokey> samuel__, open your sources.list and comment all other out, then insert these.
[05:08] <lami> variant: well?
[05:08] <botxj> in an attempt to sponsor good fruity diets, ubuntu now comes with a healthy service of high fructose syrup! now with 2% juice! ubuntu, good for you, and good for your kids!
[05:09] <bokey> samuel__, done ?
[05:09] <lami> variant: so what5 should i do?
[05:09] <lami> or anybody else:)
[05:09] <lami> u`ve got some ideas?
[05:09] <bokey> lami, what's wrong bro ?
[05:10] <samuel__> bokey cant you post them at some pastebin?
[05:10] <lami> i can`t use apt
[05:10] <sami> when is edgy eft release date?
[05:10] <samuel__> bokey or else i need to remove you name alot of times...
[05:10] <selinuxium> lami: why?
[05:10] <lami> cause there`s segmentation fault
[05:10] <selinuxium> that was quick!
[05:10] <selinuxium> :)
[05:10] <Sp4rKy> samuel__: tomorrow
[05:11] <Sp4rKy> oups
[05:11] <Sp4rKy> sami: tomorrow
[05:11] <sami> ok.. thanks
[05:11] <lami> selinexium:upgradeed -yes
[05:12] <selinuxium> upgrade to edgy? or Dapper
[05:12] <lami> i`ve tried dpkg --configure-a
[05:12] <bokey> lami, segmentation fault occurs when your application accesses memory allocated to some other application in simplest word.
[05:12] <selinuxium> lami:  type the first few letters of the nick and hit tab to auto complete
[05:13] <bokey> lami, sudo aptitude install apt-get
[05:13] <sami> can i upgrade dapper to edgy.. is the any known problems
[05:13] <selinuxium> bokey, cool would not of thought of that.
[05:14] <lami> ok
[05:14] <selinuxium> sami: edgy is in developmeent and may break at any time.
[05:14] <devilz> does anyone know how to LOAD emerald themes?
[05:14] <sebsebseb> yeah and my GDM in Edgy has screwed up
[05:14] <bokey> selinuxium, there are gazillions of package installer&manager. :)
[05:14] <lami> apt-get install ...
[05:14] <sebsebseb> an example of how things can brake
[05:14] <lami> Segmentation fault... 0%
[05:14] <sebsebseb> When it opens up the GDM  it gives me this message:  The greeter application appears to be crashing.  Attempting to use another one.  Then now well I got the default theme again ;)  ,but it seems to not be disaplying quite right.   When I log out of KDE I get this: The application The KDE Session Manager (ksmserver) crashed and caused the signal 11, (SIGSEGV)
[05:14] <sebsebseb> anyone can help?
[05:14] <bokey> selinuxium, edgy is scheduled to be released on this 28th. :)
[05:15] <Kefir> lami, have you tried reinstalling apt package??
[05:15] <lami> kefir, how?
[05:15] <thee> bokey: i thought it was 26th.
[05:15] <selinuxium> bokey: really! bloody hell hasn't time flown!
[05:15] <devilz> does anyone know how to LOAD emerald themes?
[05:15] <thee> thats what is mantioned at wikipedia.
[05:15] <Kefir> lami, download a deb for apt package manually and then do a reinstall with dpkg
[05:16] <lami> ko i`ll try
[05:16] <tomas_> dont anyone know any repo with vim7.0 i have heard that edgy has 7.0 but i dont want to upgrade distro yet...
[05:16] <bokey> selinuxium, yeah. :) indeed.. and look at Ubuntu. everyone/mostly loves it. :)
[05:17] <Phlogiston___> Hmm i wanted to filter my spam mails with kmail but then it crashed, now all my emails are doubled, is there a way to fix that? Delete duplicates?
[05:17] <landexem> Why is there no X-Chat package for Edgy?  I like normal X-Chat better than X-Chat-GNOME
[05:17] <selinuxium> bokey: now my production machine is a dev machine I can afford to go play!
[05:18] <lami> kefir, do u speak polish maybe?
[05:18] <dabaR> landexem: you think we know the answer?
[05:18] <bokey> selinuxium, :)
[05:18] <Kefir> lami, no, sorry. only russian/estonian and english
[05:18] <lami> kefir, youre nicksounds polish :)
[05:18] <AsheD> do ~ or = characters require escapage in bash?
[05:18] <selinuxium> Any network type chaps about with some vpn knowledge?
[05:18] <landexem> dabaR: Maybe not you, no.  But perhaps someone.
[05:18] <Kefir> tomas_, get deb packages for vim7.0 at http://www.freshnet.org/debian/dapper/vim7/
[05:19] <devilz> HOW THE FUCK CAN I LOAD EMERALD THEMES GOD DAMNIT
[05:19] <Kefir> lami, maybe, I don't know.
[05:19] <bokey> thee, we are having party on 28th on edgy release :)
[05:19] <dabaR> landexem: that is not a question someone here could answer. You could compile the program if it really does not exist as a package.
[05:19] <rpedro> devilz: /j #ubuntu-xgl
[05:19] <lami> kefir, ok it`s milk product very healthy:)
[05:19] <Kefir> devilz, go to beryl community forums, download a theme, open emerald and press install theme
[05:20] <lerch> Can anyone help me with mounting remote servers through sshfs on breezy?
[05:20] <dabaR> lami: kefir is used as a word even in english.
[05:20] <Kefir> lami, i know what Kefir is.
[05:20] <tomas_> Kefir:thx!btw doesnt it make mess when it is a deb package?
[05:20] <devilz> Kefir: i have like 10 themes here, but i cant see install theme nowhere
[05:20] <bokey> devilz, use gnome-theme-manager bro. :)
[05:20] <dabaR> landexem: and there is a xchat in edgy
[05:20] <devilz> i have emerald theme manager
[05:20] <dabaR> !info xchat edgy
[05:20] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[05:21] <Kefir> tomas_, no it does not. apt is just a tool o automate the depencies (basically!!)
[05:21] <lami> dabar, is kefir in english the same as in polish?
[05:21] <bokey> lerch, smfs, ssh or cifs ?
[05:21] <dabaR> landexem: you need to enable universe, do you know how?
[05:21] <jokoon> ubotu tell jokoon about xchat
[05:21] <dabaR> lami: ya, and in croatia as well. It is a russian origin, I believe, and because noone else had any word for it, they all use kefir.
[05:21] <Kefir> devilz, open up Emerald Theme manager
[05:21] <devilz> Kefir: can you help please?
[05:21] <bokey> !xchat
[05:21] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[05:21] <devilz> Kefir: i did
[05:22] <Kefir> devilz and there should be a button "Import..." there
[05:22] <bokey> jokoon, use !a_command
[05:22] <lerch> bokey: ssh - my problem is that I have to run a command on the server to gain certain permissions upon connect.
[05:22] <Kefir> devilz, do you see it?
[05:22] <bokey> !windows
[05:22] <devilz> Kefir: yes i import .emarld theme
[05:22] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1  -  !equivalents  -  http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[05:22] <lami> dabar, thank u for this info i try reconfigure apt now
[05:22] <Kefir> devilz, well, just click on import and select a these file.
[05:23] <devilz> yes
[05:23] <bokey> lerch, are you running sshd first ?
[05:23] <devilz> Kefir: but i still have same theme (default)
[05:23] <dabaR> landexem: so, then, are you still reading this?
[05:23] <arps> ola
[05:23] <Kefir> devilz, do you mean that themes do not apper in theme manager?
[05:23] <landexem> dabaR: I am, and I thought I had universe enabled
[05:24] <perez> ola
[05:24] <lerch> bokey: ehm, I'm not familiar with sshd. I can mount the server just fine - problem is it mounts my users home dir. I need to mount the root.
[05:24] <dabaR> landexem: go check
[05:24] <devilz> Kefir: they do i see bunch of screenshots of themes here, but i cant use none
[05:24] <arps> aki abla alguien el espaol
[05:24] <arps> ?
[05:24] <dabaR> !es
[05:24] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:24] <landexem> dabaR: I'm in the middle of a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:24] <bokey> lerch, you are mounting windows shares ?
[05:24] <Kefir> devilz, ok, what happens when you click on a theme in emerald?
[05:24] <dabaR> landexem: OK, well, you know where to look anyhow.
[05:25] <lerch> bokey: I'm mounting a linux server of some sort.
[05:25] <devilz> Kefir: nothing?
[05:25] <devilz> Kefir: i tried double click, right click, and nothing
[05:25] <landexem> dabaR: Oh, it appears universe got commented out of my sources.list!
[05:25] <Kefir> devilz, are you sure that beryl is on? if yes, then your emerald is messed up.
[05:25] <landexem> dabaR: Odd, well at least I've found the issue.  Thanks.
[05:26] <Kefir> devilz, it should change the theme when you just click on it
[05:26] <dabaR> landexem: which is all that matters in the end of the day:) welcome
[05:26] <thee> can i beryl to work on a 1.6ghz, tnt2, 1 gb computer
[05:26] <devilz> Kefir: beryl works yes
[05:26] <bokey> lerch, first of all if you are using ssh to access to your linux server, your linux server must be running sshd (secure shell daemon). That will listen on port 22 of that linux server. Then from your machine, just do ssh -l your_username_in_the_linux_server
[05:27] <devilz> Kefir: when i click on a theme its just Reloading... in console
[05:27] <lami> kefir, so vim 7.0 will be ok?
[05:27] <Kefir> lami, what do you mean?
[05:27] <Kefir> lami, it is ok
[05:27] <lami> :)
[05:28] <devilz> Kefir: what do you think its wrong?
[05:28] <martin__> hi, anyone here who could help me with kaffeine and it's codecs ?
[05:28] <Kefir> devilz, so if you click on ANY theme, the default theme reloads?
[05:28] <Kefir> devilz, i really don't know
[05:28] <lami> martin_ maybe w32codecs
[05:28] <bokey> lerch, it'll ask for accepting the fingerprint at which point you say yes. if on the other hand you are mounting linux drive through ssh, then ubuntu_menu > places > connect to server > ssh. :)
[05:28] <devilz> Kefir: default theme of ubuntu just stay like it was
[05:28] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:29] <devilz> Kefir: when i click on beryl manager i get beryl: No composite extension
[05:29] <devilz> compiz.real: No composite extension
[05:29] <lerch> bokey: ssh is running on the remote server. I can connect to it just fine. I can even mount it through sshfs. My problem is this: I need to run a certain command after connect to gain root permissions on the remote server. I usually do this in the terminal and work through that. I would just really like to be able to mount it with root permissions.
[05:29] <Kefir> devilz, do you have any of the beryl effects?
[05:29] <martin__> the problem is in libxine-extracodecs
[05:29] <eXistenZ> come on! release edgy!
[05:29] <Kefir> devilz, like wobbly windows or cube?
[05:29] <lami> martin_ what problem] 
[05:29] <lami> ?
[05:29] <devilz> Kefir: no
[05:29] <eXistenZ> free it from the development cage :o
[05:29] <martin__> suddenly my dvb-t has no sound but it already  worked >.<
[05:29] <bokey> lerch, could you clarify please ?
[05:30] <Kefir> devilz, in erminal type "ps aux | grep beryl"
[05:30] <Kefir> devilz, does it say that beryl is running?
[05:30] <lami> I had the same but do u have voice in e.x. mp3 or another aplication?
[05:30] <lfop> hi there, im running icewm right now, how to configure monitor? I want 1024 and 85Hz :o
[05:31] <martin__> yea
[05:31] <samuel__> bokey look at private msg...
[05:31] <bokey> lerch, if you want to be able to run commands after you get shell access to that remote linux server, then just put it inside the shell profile file (e.g., - .bashrc of your remote server)
[05:31] <dabaR> lfop: has the resolution you want worked in another wm?
[05:31] <devilz> Kefir: devilz    6569  0.0  1.6  44516  8404 ?        Ssl  17:19   0:00 beryl-manager
[05:31] <devilz> only this
[05:31] <bokey> samuel__, haven't got anything.
[05:31] <devilz> Kefir: $ beryl
[05:31] <hovinen> The Firefox package that comes with Ubuntu Edgy Eft has mouse gestures enabled. How do I disable them?
[05:31] <devilz> XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
[05:31] <Kefir> devilz, ok. we have found the problem
[05:32] <devilz> Kefir: i dont have nvidia i have ATI
[05:32] <Kefir> devilz, you don't have beryl running
[05:32] <samuel__> bokey okey it dident make it work...
[05:32] <devilz> Kefir: yes i see it too, but how i get it running
[05:32] <lerch> bokey: Ooh, that sounds right. Could you be more specific on where to find that file? Is it a file in my user dir on the remote?
[05:32] <Kefir> devilz, beryl manager is only a configuration tool, so to say.
[05:32] <smile2me> Hello all! Does ubuntu have a text-mode hardware detection? my intel lan card is not detected...???
[05:33] <Kefir> devilz, sorry, I don't have time to explain, cause I have to go to town
[05:33] <bokey> lerch, go to that_remote_linux_server and the "ls -al". it's called .bashrc
[05:33] <lami> martin did u try run in terminal? do u see any comments?
[05:33] <Kefir> devilz, see howto's on ubuntuforums.org
[05:33] <martin__> one moment
[05:33] <Kefir> devilz, i hope that u will solve your problem
[05:33] <hovinen> Does anyone here have experience with Ubuntu's firefox packages wrt mouse gestures? I really need to disable them and can't figure out how to do so.
[05:33] <bokey> samuel__, did you change all the lines to hoary ?
[05:33] <devilz> Kefir: i searched everywhere
[05:34] <devilz> cant find nothing
[05:34] <samuel__> bokey i use breezy so i changed them to breezy instead
[05:34] <devilz> why do you think i am here
[05:34] <landexem> So my Broadcom BCM4309 wireless card is not working in Edgy Eft... are there other steps I need to take?
[05:34] <samuel__> bokey use vnc?
[05:34] <St_MPA3b> Yah!!! I know, how to make 3rd button scrolling in firefox! U must make general.autoScroll=true
[05:34] <bokey> samuel__, ok.. thought you used hoary. :) and what about updating the source cache ? (apt-get update) ?
[05:34] <dabaR> hovinen: is it an extension shown in the extensions menu?
[05:34] <richd> Quick question ... how do I tell if my SMP kernel, installed from synaptic, is actually using both processors?  My uname -a shows SMP, but the gnome system monitor only shows 1 CPU ...
[05:34] <Kefir> devilz, i followed this howto and it worked like a charm - http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-4863-howto-xgl-and-beryl-how-for-gnome
[05:34] <bokey> samuel__, no I don't.
[05:34] <hovinen> dabaR, Nothing shows up under Extensions.
[05:35] <Kefir> devilz, but its for ATI
[05:35] <dabaR> smile2me:
[05:35] <dabaR> !wireless
[05:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:35] <samuel__> bokey did that but it dident find 2 of the respos..
[05:35] <devilz> Kefir: i need for ati yes
[05:35] <richd> !SMP
[05:35] <Kefir> devilz, and now sry, i have to leave
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SMP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <bokey> samuel__, that's ok. it won't find them because they exist for dapper.
[05:35] <Kefir> devilz, then go there and try it. a tried a lot of howtos before i found that one
[05:35] <Kefir> devilz, that one is very nice
[05:35] <jpjacobs> anybody know of an easy way of restoring iptables when rebooting?
[05:36] <samuel__> bokey k... still it wont work... u think its because i dont have nvidia driver installed?
[05:36] <hovinen> Perhaps I should just file a bug against the package. The Firefox people *insist* that this behaviour is not present in the official builds.
[05:36] <lerch> bokey: I connected to the server through a terminal, wrote the command to gain root access, did a "cd /" and then "ls -al" ... I can't seem to find the file though
[05:36] <bokey> samuel__, it really doesn't matter if you even have crappy driver (i915)..
 : it's not wireless, i installed ubuntu in another pc, cloned the HD and in the new PC the network card doesn't appear to be detected...
[05:37] <Kefir> devilz, hope you succeed! cya
[05:37] <lami> kefir it works well thx
[05:37] <bokey> lerch, go to ~lerch in your remote_dir
[05:38] <dabaR> smile2me: oh. lspci|grep eth?
[05:38] <samuel__> bokey i think its a little weird that none of (xine,gxine,vlc etc)are working... and they all give segmentation fult
[05:38] <samuel__> bokey totem work but dont have avi decoder...
[05:38] <bokey> samuel__, you got decent internet connection ? then remove the whole damn xine and reinstall with the original breezy sources.list
[05:38] <dabaR> smile2me: lspci|grep Eth
[05:39] <smile2me> dabaR : shows nothing
[05:39] <dabaR> smile2me: the eth or Eth?
[05:39] <samuel__> bokey got 0.5 mbit
[05:39] <richd> Anybody know how to get the Gnome panel system monitor to show both of the cores in my Core Duo separately?
[05:39] <bokey> samuel__, that's decent enough. have you done that ?
[05:39] <smile2me> dabaR : Eth show the card
[05:39] <samuel__> bokey done whaT?
[05:39] <lerch> bokey: my user-home dir contains some mail folders but no .bashrc file
[05:39] <dabaR> smile2me: then try sudo ifconfig eth0 up;ifconfig and see whether the interface is shown there
[05:40] <bokey> lerch, then create one. cat "ls -al" > .bashrc
[05:40] <smile2me> dabar: no such device
[05:40] <bokey> samuel__, you need all sorts of codecs bro. w32codecs ? have you got it ?
[05:40] <dabaR> smile2me: sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[05:41] <bokey> samuel__, the best option for you is to reinstall everything from scracth.. don't worry won't take long.
[05:41] <martin__> re
[05:41] <dabaR> smile2me: do you use gnome?
[05:41] <martin__> @ lami: did you get my last message ?
[05:41] <samuel__> the hole distrubution...
[05:41] <bokey> samuel__, no. the whole xine
[05:42] <smile2me> dabar: installed only in text mode, why eth1 and not eth0? it seems to made eth1 up
[05:42] <lami> martin_ no
[05:42] <samuel__> bokey okey done...
[05:43] <samuel__> bokey will install it now agian
[05:43] <bokey> samuel__, you got fresh sources.list as well now ?
[05:43] <dabaR> smile2me: I in fact do not know the internal workings, so why eth1 over eth0 is a mistery to me as well. Not that I care, cause it is the same thing, I am sure you will agree. Do you use a router?
[05:43] <bokey> samuel__, use this if you can http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672
[05:43] <samuel__> bokey where shoul d i get it from?
[05:44] <smile2me> dabar: yes i do, you seem to have solve my problem! Thanks!
[05:44] <martin__> @ lami: if i start kaffeine in a terminal i get a lot of comments but i don't know what to do now
[05:44] <bokey> samuel__, do this "cd /etc/apt/"
[05:44] <dabaR> smile2me: you are welcome. Everything works now? Will you know how to make it work like that when you reboot?
[05:44] <bokey> samuel__, you got there ?
[05:45] <lerch> bokey: ok, the .bashrc was there afterall (I didn't list hidden files >_<) - Where do I put the command I want to run imediately after connect?
[05:45] <smile2me> dabar: I think so :) i'm new to linux and i'm trying to install Ltsp in ubuntu 6.06 alternative
[05:45] <samuel__> or sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list right?
[05:45] <bokey> samuel__, then edit your sources.list with "sudo gedit sources.list"
[05:45] <lami> martin__ could u use private chat and show me this commands?
[05:45] <bokey> lerch, now when you log in, it'll execute the command inside the .bashrc :) have fun.
[05:45] <lami> (comments)
[05:45] <samuel__> bokey should i uncomment something?
[05:46] <dabaR> smile2me: they know something about ltsp in #edubuntu, but sometimes it takes a while for them to answer. You need to add the interface to /etc/network/interfaces for it to be started at boot.
[05:46] <JBLoudG20> anyone know how to put a transparent terminal embeded in the desktop in gnome?
[05:46] <bokey> samuel__, i already gave you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672 uncomment everything and put the ones in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672
[05:46] <lami> martin__use private
[05:46] <lami> :)
[05:46] <smile2me> dabar: Thanks!
[05:46] <smile2me> bye all
[05:46] <clearzen> !cronjob
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cronjob - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <dabaR> bye
[05:46] <bokey> smile2me, see you later bro.
[05:46] <clearzen> !cron
[05:46] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[05:46] <martin__> i got it ;) but i have to register myself
[05:47] <frank__> how can i determine what my refresh rate is at for an ATI card?
[05:47] <lami> aha
[05:47] <dabaR> frank__: aren't those in the monitors?
[05:47] <dabaR> the refresh rates
[05:47] <gary> How do you delete/remove a symlink?
[05:47] <frank__> dabaR: i'm on a laptop
[05:47] <dabaR> gary: rm
[05:47] <gary> oh right
[05:47] <bokey> gary, same as regular files
[05:47] <gary> dabaR: I thought it may have been, but just wanted to check
[05:47] <dabaR> frank__: still. what exact laptop?
[05:47] <lotheac> is this the appropriate place to ask a question about edgy
[05:47] <lami> martin__ is it a big problem?:)
[05:48] <gary> So it won't delete the source files?
[05:48] <martin__> no :-P
[05:48] <bokey> gary, no.
[05:48] <dabaR> gary: always good to check, exactly because of that ^.
[05:48] <gary> cool, thank you!
[05:48] <lami> martin_soo...:P
[05:48] <bokey> gary, you probably meant destination file.
[05:49] <gary> yep :D
[05:49] <bokey> gary, :)
[05:49] <dabaR> no, I think source is right
[05:50] <bokey> dabaR, source is the symbolic link to dest. :o
[05:50] <dabaR> they are actyually called target and link-name
[05:50] <samuel__> bokey still the same...
[05:50] <bsnider> is it possible to have gaim retrieve and display away messages?
[05:50] <dabaR> bokey: source is where the destination gets its file from
[05:50] <bokey> dabaR, or hard link.. depends on what you want.
[05:50] <JBLoudG20> bsnider, that do you mean?
[05:50] <bokey> dabaR, ok.
[05:50] <JBLoudG20> *what
[05:50] <bokey> samuel__, so you have edited the sources.list and done "sudo apt-get update" ?
[05:50] <bsnider> JBLoudG20: i'll ax in the gaim channel
[05:51] <samuel__> bokey yes
[05:51] <samuel__> bokey and reinstalled gxine ...
[05:51] <bokey> samuel__, what search_term are you using for xine ?
[05:51] <madddin> @ lami : where are you ?
[05:51] <samuel__> bokey just xine...
[05:51] <bokey> samuel__, what about xine-ui ?
[05:51] <clearzen> Does anyone know about setting cron jobs?
[05:51] <frank__> how can i determine what refresh rate i'm currently running at? i'm on a laptop
[05:52] <lami> madddin on private chat
[05:52] <samuel__> bokey its installed now...
[05:52] <dabaR> !anyone
[05:52] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:52] <samuel__> bokey still segmentation fault
[05:52] <lami> madddinj how are u?
[05:52] <bokey> samuel__, what happens when you run xine, priv msg me the output.
[05:52] <madddin> so, what is the difference between private chat and private query ?
[05:53] <JBLoudG20> anybody know about an embedded terminal on the desktop?
[05:53] <samuel__> bokey done..
[05:53] <devilz> anyone here can help me with beryl ?
[05:54] <lami> madddin it`s really phlosophical quest
[05:54] <karlp> are there any guidelines on using oem mode at all?
[05:54] <lami> madddin can u show me comments from terminal
[05:54] <lfop2> gosh, does anyone know how to deactivate the numpad on a laptopkeyboard?
[05:54] <karlp> I'm getting errors at the first boot after doing sudo oem-config-prepare
[05:54] <karlp> seems to be related to not being able to start X
[05:54] <lfop2> because most of my letters now is numbers.
[05:55] <lotheac> I suppose I'll repeat.
[05:55] <e-d-d-i-e> hi all
[05:55] <lotheac> is this the appropriate place to ask a question about edgy
[05:55] <samuel__> bokey do you get my msg?
[05:55] <Tomcat_> lotheac: Not yet.
[05:55] <dabaR> lfop2: turn off the num lock
[05:55] <dabaR> !edgy
[05:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:55] <Tomcat_> lotheac: #ubuntu+1 if I recall
[05:55] <karlp> do you need to be regged to talk here?
[05:55] <lotheac> Thanks.
[05:55] <bokey> samuel__, there's lots of dependencies with xine. open synaptic and check the dependencies section of xine. report back
[05:55] <dabaR> karlp: no
[05:56] <bokey> !schedule
[05:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:56] <lwizardl> is apt down?
[05:57] <Alakazamz0r> lwizardl, no.
[05:57] <bokey> lwizardl, no if you meant the official public servers, it definitely isn't.
[05:57] <Alakazamz0r> everyones just upgrading.
[05:57] <dabaR> lwizardl: that does not mean anything. apt is a program on your comptuer that conencts to servers. depending on what servers you have there, those could or not be down
[05:57] <madddin> i send them
[05:57] <madddin> i got it !
[05:57] <madddin> thanks lami ^^
[05:57] <samuel__> bokey i cant copy and paste...
[05:57] <optimusprime> is there a way not to automatically mount my Win Partition?
[05:57] <madddin> wait a moment
[05:57] <dabaR> optimusprime: off course. remove its entry from /etc/fstab
[05:57] <bokey> samuel__, open synaptic first. then go to xine. done that yet ?
[05:58] <samuel__> bokey i have done that..
[05:58] <dabaR> lwizardl: what issue are you seeing?
[05:58] <bokey> samuel__, what does xine's dependencies list ?
[05:58] <bulmer> can Ubuntu be run off of a flash drive (1gig)?  is it a major effort to have it boot off a flash drive ie make the flash drive bootable and be like a live cd?
[05:58] <madddin> i now know the problem, but not how to solve it quite right
[05:59] <lwizardl> Temporary failure resolving 'gb.archive.ubuntu.com'
[05:59] <samuel__> bokey i cant copy the list :/
[05:59] <e-d-d-i-e> I have a question
[05:59] <samuel__> bokey but its quite long...
[05:59] <e-d-d-i-e> How can I install ubuntu 6.06 on Asus P5B Deluxe motherboard with JMicron controller?
[05:59] <bokey> samuel__, ok. libc6 there?
[06:00] <clearzen> e-d-d-i-e: Have you tried the install cd?
[06:00] <samuel__> bokey yes
[06:00] <e-d-d-i-e> yes
[06:00] <bokey> samuel__, go on. what's there.
[06:00] <e-d-d-i-e> but i can't
[06:00] <clearzen> e-d-d-i-e: what does it tell you when you attempt an install?
[06:00] <samuel__> bokey libatk
[06:00] <dabaR> lwizardl: yet you can surf, right? run gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the gb. from evey line that has that(gb.archive...) then run sudo aptitude update, and it should have been fixed. the commands are ran in a terminal, in apps>accessories.
[06:01] <Gavrila> hello, what's the default set of modprobe configuration files in Edgy? should I add a xxxx.modprobe in modprobe.d for each module, add it to /etc/modprobe.d/options or edit /etc/modules?
[06:01] <yacoob> So. Release tonight? :>
[06:01] <bokey> samuel__, that's it ?
[06:01] <lami> madddin do u have xine?
[06:01] <samuel__> bokey no i check so i get every dependece
[06:01] <madddin> i have it
[06:01] <lami> kaffeine uses tgis
[06:01] <madddin> tgis ?
[06:02] <samuel__> bokey its libcairo libfontconfig libglib libgtk libice6
[06:02] <lami> uses this
[06:02] <lami> :P
[06:02] <samuel__> bokey libpango libsm6 libsmjs libx11-6
[06:02] <exile> can anyone help i'm trying to get realtek rtl8187 linux drivers working on amd64-k8
[06:02] <e-d-d-i-e> he need a drivers because he isn't see a dvd-roob but I don't have any drivers
[06:02] <lwizardl> whats the command to view your dns settings
[06:02] <samuel__> bokey still more..
[06:02] <Alakazamz0r> i make you spank.
[06:02] <madddin> so what should i do with xine ?
[06:02] <e-d-d-i-e> *room
[06:03] <lami> i havent now xine but u should configure gui-->expert --->audio and ther change OSS from dev/dsp to dev/sound/dsp
[06:03] <soundray> lwizardl: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[06:03] <lami> a propos what`s your language ?
[06:04] <samuel__> bokey libxaw7 libxcursor1 libext6 libxfixes3 libxi6 libxine1c2 libxinerama1
[06:04] <lami> do u speak only english
[06:04] <lami> ?
[06:04] <keithhhh> hi everyone, what is the best way to watch media embedded in webpages??  Is Mplayer the best for this??
[06:04] <dabaR> lwizardl: cat /etc/resolv.conf will show you your dns servers
[06:04] <madddin> german
[06:04] <Rookie_> !de
[06:04] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:04] <samuel__> bokey libxrandr2 libxrender1 libxt6 libxt6 libxtst6
[06:04] <samuel__> bokey need to take all?
[06:04] <madddin> okay
[06:05] <lami> have u been on german ubuntu forum :P?
[06:05] <samuel__> bokey just one more... zlib1g
[06:05] <madddin> not until now ^^
[06:05] <Nutubuntu> I'm using totem-xine and yesterday it suddenly stopped being able to play .wmv videos that it had been able to play just fine before. The error message says that the codec for Windows Media Video files 'is not handled'. It was handled before ... how do I troubleshoot?
[06:05] <lrep> hi
[06:06] <Alakazamz0r> !edgy
[06:06] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:06] <dabaR> Nutubuntu: the exact same files?
[06:06] <Nutubuntu> dabaR:  yes.
[06:06] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu:  I use VLC to run wmv files if that helps
[06:06] <lrep> im trying to get phpldapadmin to work with apache, but im running into problems...i tried following the basic install off the site but no luck
[06:06] <lwizardl> even us.archive.ubuntu.com is failing
[06:06] <Nutubuntu> keithhhh:  Hm ... don't know VLC; I'll look it up
[06:06] <bokey> samuel__, does glxdemo run ?
[06:06] <dabaR> lwizardl: like I said, just archive.ubuntu.com
[06:06] <colin_m> !schedule
[06:06] <lrep> i get the 404 page can not be found
[06:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:06] <samuel__> bokey no... segmentfault
[06:06] <bokey> samuel__, I don't think it's the dependency problem bro.
[06:06] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: its great
[06:07] <lami> maddin__I really recomend: http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/ and use suche it will be faster than explain in english it`s a popular problem
[06:07] <samuel__> bokey what then?
[06:07] <tnnc> !xastir
[06:07] <leafw> is there any way to list all installed packages plus the size they take in disk? I need to clear up lots of space ...
[06:07] <ubotu> xastir: X Amateur Station Tracking and Information Reporting. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 841 kB, installed size 2788 kB
[06:07] <madddin> @ lami: thanks for your help
[06:07] <bokey> samuel__, ok. someone else had the same problem, the solution was basically to touch a file named /etc/ld.so.nohwcap did you do that ?
[06:07] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: can you view wmv files in webpages?
[06:07] <lami> u welcome :)
[06:07] <soundray> lrep: what do you mean by "basic install off the site"? Apache web site?
[06:07] <bokey> samuel__, touch /etc/ld.so.nohwcap
[06:07] <La_PaRCa> What program should I use to play real media files?
[06:08] <Nutubuntu> keithhhh:  haven't tried that -- I don't think I've ever been able to do that?
[06:08] <lrep> soundray: on the phpldapadmin page, there's a documentation which i tried to follow but no luck
[06:08] <samuel__> bokey yay it worked!
[06:08] <bokey> samuel__, :)
[06:08] <clearzen> Does anyone know how I would set up a cron job that automaticly adds programs I've installed since the last backup. To the backup file? And then create a text log of the additions?
[06:08] <samuel__> bokey thx alot :D
[06:08] <dabaR> leafw: to list all installed packages you can run sudo dpkg -l
[06:08] <soundray> lrep: you should install the ubuntu package instead and look at the docs in /usr/share/doc/phpldapadmin/
[06:08] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: Im about to try somethign called mozilla-mplayer
[06:09] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: it might work
[06:09] <bokey> samuel__, no probs bro. remember Google is your friend. :) it's interesting because the answerer told the original poster to strace glxdemo.
[06:09] <bokey> !strace
[06:09] <ubotu> strace: A system call tracer. In component main, is important. Version 4.5.12-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 89 kB, installed size 244 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh sparc)
[06:09] <bokey> samuel__, because strace traces the system calls, it was easy to figure out what was going wrong. :)
[06:10] <samuel__> bokey i searched google at first... but dident find mutch with segmentation fault...
[06:10] <Nutubuntu> keithhhh:  I'll give vlc a try. I don't understand why totem-xine would suddenly fail to play files it had always played before, though. I don't like when things go inexplicably sour.
[06:10] <bokey> samuel__, glad it worked. remember Google is your friend in these type of matter. :)
[06:10] <alexeidodon> hi..i am new here ..i wont to know..how to install full man pages in Ubuntu 6.06 ...The man pages that i have already installed did'n contain a lot of C/C++ functions..10x
[06:10] <samuel__> bokey i allways use google... thx again and later
[06:10] <bokey> samuel__, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129147
[06:10] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: ya it is frustrating
[06:11] <dabaR> !manpages-dev
[06:11] <ubotu> manpages-dev: Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development. In component main, is optional. Version 2.17-1 (dapper), package size 1090 kB, installed size 2724 kB
[06:11] <soundray> alexeidodon: install manpages-dev
[06:11] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: but at least ubuntu can install and remove programs easily ;)
[06:11] <bokey> samuel__, tata bro.
[06:11] <Nutubuntu> keithhhh:  true that
[06:11] <alexeidodon> 10x soundray
[06:11] <bokey> !ptrace
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ptrace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <soundray> alexeidodon: say thanks to dabaR, he was faster ;)
[06:11] <samuel__> bokey :D
[06:12] <dabaR> soundray: you are too modest...
[06:12] <lerch> bokey: The .bash.rc didn't seem to work - I've sent an email to the system administrator trying to get him to grant me the proper rights without having to write a command. Thanks for your help.
[06:12] <e-d-d-i-e> #privmsg
[06:12] <soundray> dabaR: proper attribution is what we're here for, isn't it ;)
[06:12] <lwizardl> nope didn't work
[06:12] <lrep> soundray: i get this error in my browser The requested URL /cgi-bin/php4/phpldapadmin/index.php was not found on this server.
[06:13] <bokey> lerch, no probs, remember those commands that require super user priviledges won't run! ~:)
[06:13] <soundray> lrep: have you installed the ubuntu package phpldapadmin?
[06:13] <dabaR> lwizardl: can you post your sources.list file to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[06:13] <lrep> soundray: yes
[06:13] <lrep> soundray: i've only used the ubuntu packages up to this point
[06:13] <soundray> lrep: have you looked at the docs in /usr/share/doc/phpldapadmin?
[06:14] <lerch> bokey: Right, that might be the case - I'll have to wait for the sysadm to answer.
[06:14] <Quixotic> Hi just installed a lamp server its my first time working with this stuff. Can someone link me to somewhere or exaplin how to configure the apache or some sort of tool that I could use to manage my server.
[06:14] <bokey> lerch, a good idea is to run the commands in your machine first , just to see it yourself (ofcourse without su priviledge).
[06:14] <soundray> !lamp > Quixotic
[06:15] <bokey> lerch, if he does give you access, remember to thank him/her on sysadmin day. :)
[06:15] <bokey> !wamp
[06:15] <Quixotic> ty soundray
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wamp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> Quixotic: Server apps generally have pretty complete man pages; also you can get a quick start from the Ubuntu Server Guide on a desktop install (in yelp) or online
[06:15] <bokey> !info wamp
[06:15] <ubotu> Package wamp does not exist in any distro I know
[06:15] <lrep> soundray: yes
[06:15] <dabaR> Quixotic: the config files are shown on that page. In the Ubuntu system, the config files for any system wide program are in /etc, so the apache config files are in /etc/apache.
[06:15] <soundray> lrep: are you sure that the path you are using is the one where it is supposed to appear?
[06:15] <lerch> bokey: yeah, well - he really ought to give me those rights - the command I need to run is just a command that switches user to webadmin (which is me)...
[06:16] <Metaj> do someone know how to get Creative Webcam Live work on ubuntu 64bit
[06:16] <bokey> lerch, :)
[06:16] <lrep> soundray: how do you check ? i think its right
[06:16] <Quixotic> so everything ill be working with or installing ill be looking for it in /etc ?
[06:16] <jhasse> Why can't i type special characters? Where can i activate utf-8 or something like that?
[06:16] <lwizardl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28265/
[06:17] <soundray> lrep: I'd look in the docs. I'm just giving generic advice here, I don't have the package myself.
[06:17] <dabaR> Quixotic: mostly, it depends on what the everything that you will be doing will be. The config files will all the be there. Read that page, and if you have specific questions, ask them then.
[06:17] <soundray> Metaj: does it load a module when you plug it in?
[06:17] <Metaj> yes it dose
[06:18] <Quixotic> the only thigns I was told to get running(of course never done it b4 so its hard for me) was linux apache mysql php pearl and phpbb so thats my goal dabaR.
[06:18] <soundray> Metaj: what's the name of the module?
[06:18] <Metaj> 1 sec
[06:18] <dabaR> lwizardl: this is what mine looks like. I strongly suggest you make yours look like that as well, since this is not readable, and you have repositories enabled that you should not have. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28268/
[06:18] <Nutubuntu> keithhhh:  Well ... *that* was fun! I installed vlc and ran it. It began to load the test video and then restarted X for me.
[06:19] <Nutubuntu> Even totem-xine didn't do *that*
[06:19] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: oh man that sucks
[06:19] <Nutubuntu> LOL
[06:19] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: sorry dude
[06:19] <bokey> Quixotic, it's perl not pearl. :)
[06:19] <Nutubuntu> Ain't computers fun!?
[06:19] <dabaR> no
[06:19] <bokey> Nutubuntu, damn it is. :)
[06:19] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: ya
[06:19] <Quixotic> thx =) bad habit to type it that way.
[06:20] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: Im still reading about he plug in
[06:20] <oxyride_> cold~
[06:20] <bokey> oxyride_, cold here too. 12 degrees.
[06:20] <bokey> oxyride_, probably go to bed now. :)
[06:20] <oxyride_> I mean that joke is rather COLD
[06:20] <keithhhh> nut
[06:20] <keithhhh> haha
[06:21] <Alakazamz0r> yo soy 7334
[06:21] <Alakazamz0r> lol
[06:21] <dabaR> bokey: wait till you find out about the small pocks...
[06:21] <dabaR> pox?
[06:21] <bokey> dabaR, yeah smallpox dude.
[06:22] <tec> where do i find alacarte menu editor?
[06:22] <bokey> dabaR, btw, smallpox doesn't exist ? no ?
[06:22] <bokey> dabaR, or is it extinct ?
[06:22] <dabaR> lwizardl: tell me whether that actually fixed it, cause it is likely not gonna fix it just yet.
[06:22] <Amaranth> tec: right click on the 'Applications Places System' area on your panel and choose edit menus
[06:22] <dabaR> bokey: you tell me after using that blanket.
[06:23] <bokey> dabaR, that blanket's got a hole.
[06:23] <Amaranth> dabaR: offtopic :P
[06:23] <karlp> hmm, oem mode completely fails if you do a server setup
[06:23] <Quixotic> hi i just ran apt-get install ubuntu-desktop on the lamp server installation. It appears to have finished but how do I enable the ubunutu-desktop and when its enabled how can i turn it off to go back to the command line.
[06:23] <karlp> server setup doesn't install x,
[06:23] <karlp> oem-config-prepare bombs unless there's an x.
[06:24] <karlp> guess I don't get to use oem mode.
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> Quixotic: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm {start,stop}
[06:24] <soundray> Quixotic: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start' starts the graphical desktop. Ctrl-Alt-F1 switches to console mode, Alt-F7 switches to graphical again.
[06:24] <dabaR> Quixotic: try sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start to start it. to stop it it is the same, just stop instead of start. TO get to a console while gdm/X is running, alt+ctrl+f(1-6) alt+f7 gets you back to the X.
[06:24] <tec> thnx... and in sessions what does order 50 mean?
[06:25] <lwizardl> ok even after removing all src- & the 2 extra repos I still can't connect for apt
[06:25] <dabaR> lwizardl: post the exact error, and try pinging archive.ubuntu.com
[06:26] <dabaR> lwizardl: pastebin
[06:26] <pixelPOET> question...when i'm in fluxbox my mp3 player is no longer automatically mounted in /media...is there a way to fix this?
[06:26] <Quixotic> um i looked at what u guys typed and sort of took a chacne at just typing in sudo gdm
[06:26] <dabaR> pixelPOET: as in make it automatically mount?
[06:26] <lwizardl> unknown host
[06:26] <pixelPOET> dabaR, yes.
[06:26] <Quixotic> it appears to have worked but typing it the way you guys said does that enable more stuff? going just sudo gdm does that mean im missing stuff?
[06:27] <Hattori> where can i find an example of /etc/network/interfaces for wlan0 ?
[06:27] <Nutubuntu> hi keithhhh -- looks as if vlc will play at least some of the .wmv files -- but only audio; no video
[06:27] <pixelPOET> Hattori,
[06:27] <pixelPOET> auto wlan0
[06:27] <pixelPOET> iface wlan0 inet dhc
[06:27] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: let me try
[06:27] <dabaR> Hattori: well, it would look the same as an eth0 except the name. the dhcp vs. static is the difference.
[06:28] <bokey> i meet some people here sometimes who work in some sort of helpdesk for ubuntu linux, hahahaheeheh.. :) it's stupid, they are getting paid for that. the customers should directly come here, we won't charge anything. hehahaha :)
[06:28] <soundray> Quixotic: probably not. You're just not running it as a system service.
[06:28] <dabaR> pixelPOET: I do not think so, but you can mount it. I could be wrong though.
[06:28] <Hattori> pixelPOET, dabaR: essid, wep etc?
[06:29] <pixelPOET> dabaR, in dmesg in notes that it pics up sda1...but any mount command for sda1 fails...
[06:29] <Quixotic> soundray so im running it as a system service u said. If i typed it the other way how is it running then? and is there a better way to do it of the 2? is one proper and theo ther wrong?
[06:29] <soundray> bokey: with paid support, you get guaranteed response times, though. And a more consistent quality, I reckon.
[06:29] <dabaR> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-networking/43978-ubuntu-wireless-boot-connect.html Hattori
[06:29] <dabaR> pixelPOET: in what way does it fail?
[06:29] <bokey> soundray, yeah. mostly corporate people do that.
[06:29] <lwizardl> ok something is wrong
[06:30] <soundray> Quixotic: no, if you type sudo gdm, you're *not* running it as a system service. And it will run as a system service anyway after your next reboot (if the installation has worked).
[06:30] <pixelPOET> dabaR, its not listed in fstab or mtab...i put it in fstab...but it still failed with the same error.
[06:30] <lwizardl> ubuntu pc fails ping windows pc can ping archive.ubuntu.com
[06:30] <pixelPOET> brb
[06:30] <dabaR> lwizardl: how about ping 195.248.90.23 ?
[06:31] <lwizardl> works
[06:31] <khaleel_> SQ2: WELCOME :D
[06:31] <lwizardl> so it has to be dns related
[06:31] <Alicantimur> can someone please help me with installing java to linux?
[06:31] <Alicantimur> ubuntu?
[06:31] <dabaR> pixelPOET: that means you did not give proper syntax for mount, it seems to me. what was the command you used?
[06:31] <Quixotic> man this channel is great and im really starting to like the powero f linux lol. I think if i get this server running I may switch to ubuntu for my desktop at home. im loving all these commands its insane my heads going to explode
[06:31] <dabaR> !java
[06:31] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:31] <RichiH> any idea on how to make the congestion control in tcp more agressive, i.e. hog me a bit of bandwidth? and yes, all the others are doing batch, while i just do interactive ssh
[06:31] <soundray> !java > Alicantimur
[06:31] <bokey> Has sun GPLed/equivalent Java yet ?
[06:32] <SQ2> ;) ty
[06:32] <dabaR> Quixotic: heh
[06:32] <teferra> How do you install firefox 2 on dapper?
[06:32] <dabaR> lwizardl: can you browse web sites on that computer by dns names?
[06:32] <soundray> bokey: no, but they've opened it enough for ubuntu to include it in universe.
[06:32] <Metaj> soundray I dont Know the name of the mobule but it shuold work with spca5xx
[06:32] <dabaR> lwizardl: or even just try ping google.com
[06:32] <[-NoX-] > !seen celeste
[06:32] <ubotu> I last saw Celeste (n=Celeste@85.237.25.95) 1d 13h 1m 28s ago, quiting: "Leaving"
[06:33] <soundray> Metaj: is it plugged directly into the computer, or do you use a hub?
[06:33] <lwizardl> unknown host on google.com
[06:33] <bokey> soundray, that means access to java libraries (the C libraries) ?
[06:33] <dabaR> lwizardl: does browsing work on this computer?
[06:33] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: I just realized I cant view wmvs too
[06:33] <Metaj> no usb hub
[06:33] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: hmmph
[06:33] <Nutubuntu> keithhhh:  vlc says that "no suitable decoder module for fourcc `WMV3'."
[06:33] <lwizardl> dabaR: don't know its headless
[06:33] <cyberix> Release ETA?
[06:34] <soundray> bokey: don't know
[06:34] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: I got the pluggin for video in firefox working  ;)
[06:34] <bokey> soundray, ok.
[06:34] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: but still now wmv
[06:34] <Alicantimur> limewire help
[06:34] <Nutubuntu> I like the interface though ... it doesn't do what I want but it looks cooler than the one that did until it broke -- that's a win in computer terms, lool
[06:34] <bokey> !limewire > Alicantimur
[06:35] <Alicantimur> yes?
[06:35] <Metaj> soundray it is plugged direcrly to the computer
[06:35] <Alicantimur> i'm trying to install limewire but it says "Unable to locate the application's 'main' class. The class 'com.zerog.ia.installer.Main' must be public and have a 'public static void main(String[] )' method. (LAX)
[06:35] <Alicantimur> "
[06:35] <teferra> Any one who managed to install firefox 2 on dapper
[06:35] <soundray> Metaj: have you got any software for testing it, like xawtv or gqcam?
[06:36] <dabaR> lwizardl: we should have checked that first, cause that would have made this shorter. Well, what then, how are yuo going to fix the DNS issue? add a host entry to /etc/resolv.conf? You can add a line like nameserver 4.2.2.1
[06:36] <Metaj> soundray: Yes AMSN and Wengo
[06:36] <soundray> Metaj: no, I said *testing* ;)
[06:37] <Metaj> Those works fine with a other camera Philips
[06:37] <KenSentMe> teferra: if you udpate to edgy when it comes out, you get ff2
[06:37] <SQ2> 19:35:50
[06:37] <SQ2> teferra  : I install firefox 2
[06:37] <SQ2> on Dapper and Edgy
[06:37] <teferra> SQ2 how on dapper
[06:37] <Alicantimur> can someone help me install limewire on ubuntu? i get an error i don't get
[06:37] <Nutubuntu> keithhhh:  looks like vlc doesn't have a codec that will play this format ... google "no suitable decoder module for fourcc `WMV3'."
[06:37] <pixelPOET> dabaR, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/mp3
[06:38] <dabaR> pixelPOET: that sounds reasonable actually.
[06:38] <keithhhh> Nutubuntu: actually I dont know how to install codecs in ubuntu yet
[06:38] <Metaj> soundray : I have listed out that it will work with drivers named spca5xx
[06:38] <soundray> Alicantimur: I'm not a gnutella user myself, but I've heard that most ubuntu users like frostwire better than limewire
[06:38] <soundray> !frostwire
[06:38] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:39] <yrlnry_> !limewire
[06:39] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[06:39] <SQ2> 19:35:50
[06:39] <SQ2> teferra  : download the archive
[06:39] <teferra> abd
[06:39] <teferra> and
[06:39] <soundray> Metaj: install xawtv or gqcam to test it.
[06:39] <Shiro-kun> help! im installing edgy 64 over debootstrap and after some time debootstrap reports: Failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc
[06:39] <Alicantimur> ok thank you
[06:39] <Shiro-kun> what do i do?
[06:39] <SQ2> 19:35:50
[06:39] <SQ2> teferra  untar in a folder ..let say Firefox2
[06:39] <pixelPOET> dabaR, it's always worked before...how would fluxbox have any control over the "under-the-hood" workings of the distro? i was under the impression that it was merely a WM...
[06:39] <Metaj> OK
[06:39] <Metaj> soundray OK
[06:39] <SQ2> 19:35:50
[06:39] <SQ2> teferra  put this folder
[06:39] <teferra> SQ2 did that
[06:39] <dabaR> pixelPOET: ya, what about gnome-volume-manager, try running that
[06:40] <SQ2> 19:35:50
[06:40] <SQ2> teferra  put this foldet on your home dir
[06:40] <teferra> did that
[06:40] <SQ2> make a link from "firefox" file to Desktop
[06:40] <Nutubuntu> I'll come back to my original problem: I have had totem-xine for months and months and it has worked fine until yesterday, when it suddenly stopped being able to play .wmv files. The error it gives is "Video codec 'Windows Media Video 9' is not handled." (or WMV8 or WMV7, etc.) **It was handled OK until now.** How do I begin to troubleshoot this?
[06:40] <Quixotic> in the command line when i run a command like dir inside a large folder and the stuff scrolls off the screen at the top. Is there a way I can scroll back up in command line to read the whole thing
[06:40] <SQ2> U did it
[06:41] <soundray> Metaj: do you have a device /dev/video0?
[06:41] <dabaR> Quixotic: shift+pgup. the command that will page the output for you is less. so ls|less,. try that
[06:41] <teferra> SQ2 you can not install it for the whole system??
[06:41] <SQ2> yes
[06:41] <SQ2> as root
[06:41] <Alicantimur> which IM client is considered to be best for MSN in Linux?
[06:41] <dabaR> !best
[06:41] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:42] <pixelPOET> dabaR, thank you! that did the trick nicely! that explains the fluxbox question...lol. Would you happen to know if there is a non gnome-specific equivalent that i could run instead?
[06:42] <dabaR> !msn
[06:42] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[06:42] <teferra> SQ2 ok thanx
[06:42] <budluva> Alicantimur: gaim?
[06:42] <SQ2> 19:35:50
[06:42] <SQ2> teferra  U have to put folder firefox
[06:42] <Quixotic> alicantimur I am totally new at linux but gaim has always done everything fine for me.
[06:42] <budluva> !broadcom
[06:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:42] <Metaj> soundray: no I dont
[06:42] <dabaR> pixelPOET: no idea really, that was a long shot...
[06:42] <budluva> !bcm4318
[06:42] <SQ2> on /usr/lib/firefox
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcm4318 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <nilats> Is it possible to install ubuntu with package selection, like you would install slackware?
[06:42] <Alicantimur> but gaim does not support personal messages?
[06:42] <pixelPOET> dabaR, well...you're a good guesser. i'll run over to #fluxbox and ask them
[06:42] <dabaR> !bcm43xx
[06:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:43] <SQ2> 19:35:50
[06:43] <SQ2> teferra  and then make a link to your desktop
[06:43] <dabaR> pixelPOET: thanks
[06:43] <dabaR> Alicantimur: there is amsn as well, look into that one
[06:43] <teferra> SQ2 now I get it , thanks
[06:43] <SQ2> with the command line: firefox-bin %U
[06:43] <foodcoman> Greetings
[06:43] <cyberix> How do I know when Edgy is released?
[06:43] <SQ2> ;) np
[06:44] <dabaR> cyberix: subscribe to the announce mailing list
[06:44] <SQ2> cyberix
[06:44] <SQ2> synaptic will tell you about - "Distribution Upgrade"
[06:44] <foodcoman> cyberix: Or you will likely see it in on homepage also.  Maybe Channel Topc?
[06:45] <dabaR> !schedule
[06:45] <davvs> what's the country code for sweden? se or sv?
[06:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:45] <SQ2> ok .. tomorrow then !
[06:45] <dabaR> maybe cyberix was asking when it will be released...
[06:45] <SQ2> 26 Oct.
[06:45] <dabaR> just lost in translation
[06:45] <soundray> davvs: se. I think sv is Slovenia
[06:45] <dabaR> !se
[06:45] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[06:45] <law_> hi i have a question , i installed mysql and phpmyadmin and changed the root password in phpmyadmin (cause there wasnt one)
[06:45] <law_> now i cant connect anymore
[06:46] <Rookie_> se is swedish
[06:46] <law_> not with phpmyadmin , also not in the shell
[06:46] <law_> how can i reset this stuff ? i already tried to purge mysql-server , stil lthe same problem
[06:46] <cyberix> dabaR: No. I'm wondering, if I should sleep or upgrade first. :-)
[06:46] <snoops> sleep..don't fall into the upgrade before sleep trap
[06:46] <Rookie_> law_ - want to reset your mysql srv ? dpkg-reconfigure mysql
[06:46] <SQ2> ;) allways sleep before
[06:46] <Metaj> soundray; I downloaded Xaw TV but my screen become black and I was forced to rrestart my computer
[06:47] <Metaj> You asked me if I have /dev/video/
[06:47] <dabaR> cyberix: I have used ubuntu since 4.10, so that means about 4 upgrades. I was excited about each one of them like you, and nothing heart-stoppingly exciting came from none of them.
[06:47] <alessia> does anyone else have trouble with the trackpad getting "stuck" after sleep?
[06:47] <dabaR> snoops: heh
[06:47] <Nutubuntu> Totem-xine has stopped being able to play .wmv files that it could play before. (I have had totem-xine for months and months and it has worked fine until yesterday, when it suddenly stopped being able to play .wmv files. The error it gives is "Video codec 'Windows Media Video 9' is not handled." (or WMV8 or WMV7, etc.) **It was handled OK until now.**) How do I begin to troubleshoot this?
[06:47] <Metaj> I looked and there vad no such
[06:47] <soundray> Metaj: no, I asked you whether you had /dev/video0
[06:47] <law_> could someone help me pls ?
[06:47] <Rookie_> !extracodecs
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extracodecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <dabaR> Nutubuntu: how big is the file you are trying to play?
[06:48] <pixelPOET> cyberix, sleep. trust me. you'll upgrade..and something won't work..you'll have to fix it..and you'll find new toys along the way...and you'll never get around to sleeping.
[06:48] <Rookie_> !libxine-extracodecs
[06:48] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[06:48] <Metaj> And there is no /dev/video0
[06:48] <trappist> Nutubuntu: I can play some wmv9 files and not others.  are you sure it's the same videos that played before and don't play now?
[06:48] <SQ2> 19:45:49
[06:48] <SQ2> law_  what reason for PHP and MySQL ?
[06:48] <SQ2> web server ?
[06:48] <soundray> Metaj: run 'sudo modprobe videodev' and check again for that device
[06:48] <law_> yes
[06:48] <Nutubuntu> dabaR - small files at least as test -- 2 or 3 MB. trappist - I'm entirely sure. files I've had for months and played repeatedly.
[06:48] <SQ2> ok
[06:49] <SQ2> uninstall all
[06:49] <dabaR> Nutubuntu: send me one to see whether they can be played.
[06:49] <SQ2> apache php mysql
[06:49] <tomas_> i have typed this: whereis gromacs and output is /usr/local/share but there is nothing in that directory like gromacs:(
[06:49] <SQ2> ..for start
[06:49] <britt_> im trying to play a trick on my buddy
[06:49] <law_> i already purged mysql-server and phpmyadmin and reinstalled it but still the sae
[06:49] <trappist> Nutubuntu: does /usr/lib/win32/wmv9dmod.dll exist?
[06:49] <cyberix> lol
[06:49] <cyberix> I gues I sleep then
[06:49] <britt_> he has a WEP encrypted network
[06:49] <Nutubuntu> dabaR - hang on a minute
[06:49] <britt_> how do i find out his key without asking him?
[06:49] <SQ2> nono uninstall again
[06:49] <britt_> i heard use netstumbler?
[06:49] <Metaj> I got this ::: metaj@PackardLinux:~$ sudo modprobe videodev
[06:49] <Metaj> metaj@PackardLinux:~$
[06:50] <law_> apt-get remove mysql-sever ?
[06:50] <dabaR> britt_: are you serious? that is your question, how to crack a wep encrypted network?
[06:50] <soundray> Metaj: now check again for that device
[06:50] <Metaj> nothing else
[06:50] <MDCore> hey all. I'm trying to setup apache to be able to browse to directories symlinked into my /var/www ... but I don't think I'm getting the settings right.
[06:50] <Nutubuntu> trappist:  yes, wmv9dmod.dll is there
[06:50] <pixelPOET> hre comes the fire...way to go britt.
[06:50] <SQ2> and use lampp
[06:50] <trappist> Nutubuntu: does mplayer play the files?
[06:50] <SQ2> as webserver
[06:50] <law_> where can i get lampp ?
[06:50] <SQ2> XAMPP is the new name
[06:50] <britt_> like its never been done before im sure
[06:50] <MDCore> !xampp
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <Metaj> soundray : when doning it nothing comes up
[06:51] <britt_> im sure its never been spoken about either
[06:51] <soundray> Metaj: now check again for that device
[06:51] <Nutubuntu> trappist - checking
[06:51] <SQ2> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html
[06:51] <devilz> Error: unable to open display :0
[06:51] <devilz> thats what i get when i write fglrxinfo
[06:51] <devilz> can someone tell me why on earth do i get that
[06:51] <devilz> i just moved 0=1 in gdm*
[06:51] <trappist> devilz: are you running it with sudo?
[06:51] <SQ2> it's made to work perfect
[06:52] <devilz> trappist: no
[06:52] <trappist> devilz: try DISPLAY=:1 fglrxinfo
[06:52] <SQ2> no more hundred settings
[06:52] <MDCore> so.. can anyone help me with the apache configuration  ?
[06:52] <SQ2> MDCore
[06:52] <Nutubuntu> trappist - yes, mplayer plays the .wmv files I've been using as tests
[06:52] <Nutubuntu> :)
[06:52] <SQ2> nemes.sorin@gmail.com
[06:52] <MDCore> SQ2:  I'm trying to setup apache to be able to browse to directories symlinked into my /var/www ... but I don't think I'm getting the settings right.
[06:53] <Quixotic> mdcore I don't know what I'm doing but this url may be of help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:53] <Nutubuntu> Maybe what I need is a nice gui frontend for mplayer
[06:53] <devilz> trappist: i get same message Error: unable to open display :0
[06:53] <SQ2> write me here - I will tould you about each step
[06:53] <soundray> Nutubuntu: try gmplayer
[06:53] <trappist> Nutubuntu: heh.  that's all the help I can be, then - I'm an mplayer guy.  I was hoping maybe they had the same problem, and if I debugged mplayer it would fix totem/xine
[06:53] <MDCore> SQ2: thanks, I'll check it out!
[06:53] <britt_> all i gotta do to open pandora's box is to ask about wireless hacking
[06:53] <Quixotic> sq2 can u explain the steps to me also its my first tiem with this I just finished doign a lamp install not sure next step to see if its working
[06:53] <trappist> devilz: I guess check the fglrxinfo man page or --help and see how to specify a display number
[06:53] <Nutubuntu> soundray:  will try it, maybe I can junk totem altogether?
[06:54] <Nutubuntu> trappist:  you've solved my immediate problem, at any rate
[06:54] <trappist> Nutubuntu: I do.  mplayer 4 life, and stuff.
[06:54] <dabaR> britt_: I don't see a lot of answers to your question...
[06:54] <devilz> trappist: it was working just fine, if i dont use '1' in gdm confs
[06:54] <Metaj> soundray: how will I check the Device, what do yuo meen
[06:54] <britt_> i dont see 'the fire' either
[06:54] <SQ2> can be from rights
[06:54] <frederick85> What is the program I use to browse my Windows Network?
[06:54] <Alakazamz0r> !edgy
[06:54] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:54] <soundray> Metaj: ls -l /dev/video0
[06:54] <qwer> Hello I need help my pc doesn't start:grub error 17
[06:54] <trappist> devilz: yeah it sounds like you're running X on display :1, and fglrxinfo doesn't know how to deal with that
[06:54] <St_MPA3b> I cant normally use kde application, i get error with  'kfmclient' when trying to klik on link... how can i fix it?
[06:54] <St_MPA3b> I cant normally use kde application, i get error with  'kfmclient' when trying to klik on link... how can i fix it?
[06:54] <Metaj> ok
[06:55] <dabaR> britt_: unfortunately, wep cracking is illegal, and considered bad etiquette, and bad manners, so people do not like to mess with it.
[06:55] <trappist> devilz: surely it has an option to specify the display number
[06:55] <britt_> oh
[06:55] <britt_> i was raised by a pack of wolves, so I apologize if i was in 'bad manners'
[06:55] <devilz> trappist: linux sux totaly
[06:55] <Nutubuntu> britt_:  we be of one blood, ye and i
[06:55] <trappist> devilz: mk
[06:55] <frederick85> What is the name of a program I can use to browse my windows client
[06:55] <trappist> devilz: troll elsewhere please
[06:55] <frederick85> My windows File Server
[06:56] <SQ2> trappist: linux sux totaly - MS sux globaly
[06:56] <britt_> devilz: who the hell cares what you think abotu linux
[06:56] <dabaR> britt_: no need to apologize, it is just that we are not born with knowledge about wireless networks. pixelPOET thought you were gonna get flamed because of the question, and ya, it never happened.
[06:56] <nilats> !schefule
[06:56] <nilats> !schedule
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about schefule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <nilats> =(
[06:56] <Metaj> soundray: I get this :metaj@PackardLinux:~$ ls -l /dev/video0
[06:56] <Metaj> ls: /dev/video0: Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[06:56] <pixelPOET> oh drop the dick measuring contest...to each his own. devilz...enjoy the bsod.
[06:56] <nilats> !schedule
[06:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:57] <Metaj> There is no file or mapp with name
[06:57] <dabaR> pixelPOET: don't use concepts like that here, please.
[06:57] <Nutubuntu> soundray:  is gmplayer the name I'd look for the package by? can't find it in Synaptic ...
[06:57] <soundray> Metaj: what do you get from 'ls -l /dev/video'?
[06:57] <soundray> Nutubuntu: it comes with the normal mplayer, so you should have it already
[06:57] <Metaj> There is no file or mapp with name
[06:58] <thee> frederick85: can't you browse it from Places->Network Servers?
[06:58] <SQ2> devilz ? - U are MS official ?
[06:58] <pixelPOET> dabaR, haha iight.
[06:58] <frederick85> thee: doh!
[06:58] <trappist> Nutubuntu: you get gmplayer for free except by installing mplayer-nogui
[06:59] <Metaj> soundray: I have no file or map with that name /dev/video0
[06:59] <Quixotic> omg i cant belive i never used linux sooner. U can find just about anythign with this apt-get thign im amazed
[06:59] <trappist> Metaj: that device file should be created when you load the correct drivers for your tuner card
[06:59] <Nutubuntu> soundray:  ah ... I see ... (*Nutubuntu looks into crystal ball* ... gmplayer is unhappy: "mplayer: could not connect to socket" and so on ...)     :|
[06:59] <root> Having problems getting mod_mono to work wirh apache2
[07:00] <mzar720> hi Guys.. How can i take a screenshot for Menus in Ubuntu 6
[07:00] <pixelPOET> Quixotic, gottah love Debian :] 
[07:00] <root> :q
[07:00] <Quixotic> apt-get this apt-get that im hooked
[07:00] <frederick85> apt-get is very efficient too, much better than Yum on fedora core
[07:00] <soundray> Metaj: what do you get from 'ls -l /dev/video'? (Leaving out the 0 this time)
[07:00] <Quixotic> whats debian pixelpoet?
[07:00] <pixelPOET> mzar720, gnome-screenshot i believe
[07:00] <trappist> mzar720: I do screenshots like this: sleep 5; import -window root myscreenshot.png
[07:00] <dabaR> Quixotic: ask google
[07:00] <mzar720> ok i will try
[07:00] <Quixotic> ok dabaR
[07:00] <pixelPOET> Quixotic, Ubuntu is based off of debian...apt-get comes from Debian...not every linux distro uses it
[07:01] <Quixotic> ah ok. ubuntu is my first attempt into linux so I don't really know the history
[07:01] <Rookie_> !sudousers
[07:01] <soundray> Quixotic: good choice. Took me seven years to arrive at that same choice ;)
[07:01] <Metaj> soundray : belive me there is nothing coming from that even
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudousers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <Metaj> soundray
[07:02] <steve__> anybody know about mod_mono here?
[07:02] <pixelPOET> mzar720, you will probably have to use "gnome-screenshot --delay=5" to give yourself 5 seconds to get to the menu you want.
[07:02] <trappist> steve__: I used it a LONG time ago
[07:02] <soundray> Metaj: can you run 'lsmod' and put the output on pastebin pls
[07:02] <dcstimm> does Mark Shuttleworth actually Program for ubuntu?
[07:02] <steve__> i'm having problems configuring it with apache2
[07:02] <Quixotic> ok so i just realized that if i go to http://localhost/ it gives me a confirmation page that my apache is working. Is there a similiar confirmation method for php and mysql ?
[07:03] <steve__> the ubuntu documentation isn't v comprehensive
[07:03] <SQ2> yes : //localhost/phpinfo.php
[07:03] <dabaR> steve__: come up with a good question, and you may get a better answer
[07:03] <trappist> steve__: no, but the apache2 documentation is
[07:03] <concept10> anyone heard of Auto kernel?
[07:03] <mzar720> trappist...can you pleas explain in in more details because i am a new user to ubuntu.
[07:03] <steve__> hehe, true
[07:04] <trappist> mzar720: sleep 5 means wait 5 seconds.  the second command makes a screenshot, myscreenshot.png.  you do this in a console.
[07:04] <SQ2> should tell U about MySQL state and PHP state
[07:04] <steve__> unfortunately it seems that debian based systems run mod_mono in a different way than other nixz
[07:04] <pixelPOET> mzar720, just use "gnome-screenshot --delay=5"
[07:04] <steve__> ok, a good question....
[07:05] <alexeidodon> hi..i was asking half an hour ago about instaling man pages...i tried: "sudo apt-get install manpages-lib"...it's not working : (E:Couldn't find package manpages-lib).
[07:05] <dabaR> manpages-dev
[07:06] <mzar720> thanks pixelPOET i try  it and it work like a charm
[07:06] <Nutubuntu> trappist or soundray or anyone who knows mplayer and gmplayer: gmplayer doesn't want to run but mplayer works. could use some help solving the gmplayer problem so I can be a happy mplayer dude too
[07:06] <pixelPOET> mzar720, np =] 
[07:06] <SQ2> Quixotic  - if U dont have phpinfo.php file in your HTDOCS or WWW dir -> make an empty file named phpinfo.php and put this inside <?php phpinfo();  ?>
[07:06] <alexeidodon> :)10x dabaR
[07:07] <trappist> Nutubuntu: I don't use gmplayer :)   it gives me problems all the time.  I just learn the keyboard shortcuts from `man mplayer` and I'm happy with mplayer-nogui
[07:07] <Nutubuntu> :) trappist somehow I knew you were going to say that ...
[07:07] <Nutubuntu> I'll see if I can get happy that way too :)
[07:07] <Metaj> soundray do you have it
[07:08] <soundray> Nutubuntu: I use mplayer like trappist does. Have you tried Alt-F2, then entering gmplayer?
[07:08] <SQ2> Quixotic : now point your browser to http://localhost/phpinfo.php
[07:08] <trappist> Nutubuntu: I wish gmplayer were more reliable - there are some pretty nice skins for it and stuff.  but it gives me too many problems.
[07:08] <Nutubuntu> soundray, no, I tried to run gmplayer from a console window
[07:08] <soundray> Metaj: no, you need to give me the link.
[07:08] <steve__> how do i configure apache2 to serve asp.NET2.0 pages using mod_mono and mono-server2....that good enough?
[07:08] <dabaR> Nutubuntu: that was a suggestion for what to try
[07:08] <Metaj> n=soundray@dsl-217-155-44-246.zen.co.uk
[07:09] <dabaR> steve__: what haev you tried
[07:09] <Nutubuntu> trappist or soundray - Is there a way to set up nautilus s.t. it starts mplayer when I double-click a movie file?
[07:09] <Metaj> is that what you meen
[07:09] <SurfnKid> hows everyone this morning
[07:09] <soundray> Metaj: that is not a working address. I asked you to put it in pastebin. Watch:
[07:09] <soundray> !pastebin
[07:09] <SurfnKid> evening
[07:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:09] <SurfnKid> or afternoon
[07:09] <gneral> hello
[07:09] <SurfnKid> whicihever timezone yer in :P
[07:09] <gneral> how to remove completely apt-get ?
[07:09] <Metaj> !pastebin
[07:09] <Nutubuntu> dabaR -- sorry -- what was a suggestion ... I can't find it in scrollback ...?
[07:10] <trappist> Nutubuntu: probably, but I also don't use nautilus :)  you want to set up your file associations, however that's done in gnome
[07:10] <Metaj> !pastebin
[07:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:10] <pixelPOET> Nutubuntu, right click on a movie file and go to "open with"
[07:10] <Siph0n> does anyone here have a D-link DWL-G630 wireless card? :) im hearing mixed help, saying that i NEED ndiswrapper, and also some others saying that ndiswrapper wont help and that i NEED madwifi?
[07:10] <soundray> Nutubuntu: the alt-F2 trick
[07:10] <steve__> well, i've tried added a site to the sites-available dir and then enabled it with a2ensite
[07:10] <Nutubuntu> pixelPOET:  thanks!
[07:10] <Nutubuntu> soundray:  thanks!
[07:10] <pixelPOET> Nutubuntu, **properties>open with ... my apologies.
[07:10] <steve__> so me thinks the configuration is wrong
[07:10] <Nutubuntu> trappist:  somehow I expected that! :) you're CLI all the way?
[07:10] <trappist> Siph0n: if madwifi has any chance at all of working, use it - ndiswrapper is a hack and a pain, and really good only for those with no other option
[07:10] <Nutubuntu> pixelPOET:  thanks again
[07:10] <steve__> who me?
[07:11] <pixelPOET> Nutubuntu, np
[07:11] <steve__> oh
[07:11] <trappist> Nutubuntu: no, I set up my file associations in kde - but I do mostly use mplayer from the console.  gf is not interested in that though, so I try to keep the gui up to speed too.
[07:11] <Siph0n> trappist: ok.... and does Dapper LTS come with madwifi already installed?
[07:12] <trappist> Siph0n: I don't know what the default packages are - may need to install it separately.  may even need to enable universe/multiverse repos.
[07:12] <soundray> Siph0n: yes, it's in there by default
[07:12] <trappist> what soundray said
[07:12] <Nutubuntu> j/k
[07:12] <Nutubuntu> (I hope)
[07:12] <law_> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[07:12] <law_> error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
[07:12] <law_> Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
[07:12] <Metaj> I give Up
[07:13] <law_> wtf ? what means that ? i can ping localhost
[07:13] <Siph0n> k! :) thanx, ill try the forums again for more posts to get my card to work with madwifi :)
[07:13] <soundray> Metaj: why?
[07:13] <dabaR> law_: sudo invoke-rc.d mysql start
[07:13] <pixelPOET> gneral, any particular reason you wannah do that?
[07:13] <trappist> Nutubuntu: a peripheral device that comes with no drivers and no manual, and mostly exists to cost money
[07:13] <erUSUL> !madwifi
[07:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:13] <gneral> pixelPOET: it was crashed, i cant upgrade/install/remove any package
[07:13] <Nutubuntu> lol - trappist - you've made my day :) thanks again
[07:13] <Metaj> cant finde how to do a pastebin
[07:14] <Metaj> is it so difficult
[07:14] <soundray> Metaj: did you go to the site that ubotu told you about?
[07:14] <Homer> can I change usplash theme
[07:14] <dabaR> steve http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=libapache2-mod-mono%20ubuntu
[07:14] <Metaj> I know one thing my cam is ilisted in http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[07:14] <dabaR> !usplash
[07:14] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[07:15] <frederick85> someone needs to fix multitasking on cd roms it's annoying
[07:15] <pixelPOET> gneral, did you try "sudo apt-get -f" ?
[07:15] <frederick85> and noisy
[07:15] <pixelPOET> or is it totally fubar'ed?
[07:15] <Metaj> Soundray mt problem is hoe to install those drivers
[07:15] <vexati0n> thinking about switching to ubuntu from fc5... how does package availability compare when it comes to network administration type things?
[07:15] <gneral> pixelPOET: yep (http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3051/ekrangoruntusu1za1.png)
[07:16] <frederick85> vexati0n: i'v just been on fc 5 ubuntu is lighter and better.
[07:16] <soundray> Metaj: look, you're getting impatient before you've properly followed my advice. There is *usually* no need to install those drivers.
[07:16] <tfheen> vexati0n: you can search around on packages.ubuntu.com.  Generally, you shouldn't be missing anything.
[07:16] <soundray> Metaj: now, do you know how to cut and paste in ubuntu?
[07:16] <dholbach> tfheen: did you too hear of final edgy .isos that leaked somewhere on the net already?
[07:16] <frederick85> vexati0n: the package system is twice is good as yum
[07:16] <dabaR> gneral: the site you can use is paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:16] <tfheen> dholbach: really?  How cool.
[07:16] <tfheen> dholbach: got any urls?
[07:16] <Metaj> of course
[07:16] <|CADE|> can anyone help me with my issue here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284316 ?
[07:16] <frederick85> vexati0n if you didn't know it's the same as debians package system
[07:16] <dabaR> gneral: does sudo dpkg --configure -a do anything?
[07:17] <pixelPOET> gneral, whoa! thats beyond my capabilities to assist with...anyone else wannah help gneral?
[07:17] <dholbach> tfheen: I'll have to ask a friend again - maybe you can get the final iso on bittorrent too - Keybuk: did you hear anything about that? (leaked edgy isos?)
[07:17] <fabbione> dholbach: dude.. leech them!
[07:17] <soundray> Metaj: please use my nick, so I can see your response.
[07:18] <gneral> dabaR: yep, i did "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[07:18] <vexati0n> frederick85,, i know there are a lot more packages available for end-user things, but i need things like LDAP authentication, NX server, etc
[07:18] <tfheen> dholbach: but how can that be?  It's not going to be released until tomorrow!
[07:18] <dabaR> gneral: and did it help?
[07:18] <soundray> Metaj: can you please run 'lsmod' and paste the output in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:18] <dholbach> tfheen: you gotta know the right people ;-)
[07:18] <Keybuk> dholbach: you'd think they'd be a lot more careful about not publishing isos until the release itself
[07:18] <tfheen> dholbach: yeah, I guess..
[07:18] <tfheen> Keybuk: people might download them and spread them around and stuff..
[07:18] <gneral> muhsin@muhsin-desktop:/dev$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:18] <gneral> muhsin@muhsin-desktop:/dev$
[07:19] <Keybuk> I'm downloading it right now !!!!! It looks like it really is the edgy release !!!!  I'll seed it when it's done
[07:19] <Metaj> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28276/
[07:19] <dabaR> gneral: sudo aptitude install -f
[07:19] <fabbione> Keybuk: oh come on! share the torrent dud3!
[07:19] <frederick85> What is a good package to Copy Cd Roms
[07:19] <Metaj> thanks soundray I think we are in the right way
[07:20] <gneral> /topic #ceviz.net
[07:20] <gneral> pardon
[07:20] <soundray> Metaj: is the camera plugged in right now?
[07:20] <CarinArr> frederick85, i like k3b
[07:20] <CarinArr> personal preference
[07:20] <gneral> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28278/
[07:20] <AsheD> anybody know why VLC media player suddenly can't seek while reading cue/bin files?
[07:21] <Metaj> yes it is
[07:22] <soundray> Metaj: okay, there doesn't seem to be a module loaded for it. Can you run 'lsusb' and pastebin the output as well pls
[07:22] <dabaR> gneral: well, heh, I have a system that does the same thing and have not yet found the solution in fact.
[07:22] <mwozniak> hey, does anyone have any recomendations on software I should use to regularly backup my home directory?
[07:22] <Sp4rKy> hi
[07:22] <tfheen> almost there!
[07:22] <mwozniak> would amanda work for that?
[07:22] <Sp4rKy> is there a way to regenerate /var/lib/dpkg/available
[07:22] <LiN01> While trying to install ubuntu i get this error immidiatly : uncompressing linux... Ok booting the kernel ... CRC error  kernel panic -not syncing:VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block (1,0) What does this mean?  can somebody help me please
[07:23] <gneral> ermm
[07:23] <dabaR> mwozniak: they have a new app, hubackup in edgy which comes out tomorrow
[07:23] <dholbach> !are we there yet?
[07:23] <Metaj> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28279/
[07:23] <Nutubuntu> !schedule
[07:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:23] <Metaj> I can now see the cvamera
[07:23] <mwozniak> dabaR, is that ubuntu specific?
[07:23] <dabaR> dunno
[07:23] <pixelPOET> mwozniak, or you could do it the hard way and set up a cron job that'll tar your home dir every day or week or w/e
[07:24] <LiN01> While trying to install ubuntu i get this error immidiatly : uncompressing linux... Ok booting the kernel ... CRC error  kernel panic -not syncing:VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block (1,0) What does this mean?  can somebody help me please
[07:24] <gneral> dabaR: as for you, what should i do ? how to change to 1 to remove to 0 to remove ?
[07:24] <rammy> anyone installed firefox 2.0 on ubuntu 6.06 dapper
[07:24] <clearzen> LiN01: What type of file system is the hard drive?
[07:24] <B-Minus> is firefox 2.0 available for download alreday ?
[07:24] <thee> rammy: i did.
[07:24] <B-Minus> how
[07:24] <mwozniak> pixelPOET, does tar do a full backup the first time and then there is a flag to only tar changes?
[07:24] <rammy> yes B-Minus it it
[07:24] <B-Minus> is there a repo ?
[07:24] <LiN01> um i dunno
[07:24] <rammy> it is
[07:24] <dabaR> mwozniak: http://www.whiprush.org/2006/10/ahhh_backups.html
[07:24] <LiN01> how do i check ?
[07:24] <B-Minus> hmm
[07:24] <Nutubuntu> Wow ... I didn't realize Edgy was so close to release. What is the channel for Edgy discussion?
[07:24] <B-Minus> whats the repo then
[07:24] <clearzen> LiN01: Are you using a live cd??
[07:24] <soundray> Metaj: unfortunately, this only means that it gets recognized as a usb device.
[07:24] <LiN01> mmm no
[07:24] <dabaR> gneral: I do not know, I can not fix it here either.
[07:24] <LiN01> i did the download from ubuntu.com
[07:25] <thee> firefox 2 http://everythingelse.wordpress.com/2006/07/15/howto-install-firefox-20-bon-echo-in-ubuntu/?namhuy.org
[07:25] <pixelPOET> mwozniak, lemme check...
[07:25] <Metaj> And ???
[07:25] <soundray> Metaj: it doesn't seem to be supported by spca5xx or any other driver. But let's not give up too soon...
[07:25] <rammy> hi thee did u have problems with the upgrade
[07:25] <Nutubuntu> n/m ... figured it out
[07:25] <thee> none at all.
[07:25] <clearzen> Download the live cd so you can have some functionallity without installing first and then I could help you resolve your problem
[07:25] <Nutubuntu> Hey - thanks to everyone here ... as always, this is a *great* resource
[07:25] <pixelPOET> mwozniak, i have it set to rm the current tar and then retar it...it does it at 3 in the morning so it doesnt slow me down...im sure it takes awhile...
[07:25] <Sp4rKy> is there a way to regenerate /var/lib/dpkg/available ???
[07:25] <Metaj> soundray
[07:25] <thee> use the script in the link i gave
[07:25] <rammy> ok thanks thee i will install it too then
[07:25] <gneral> ermm
[07:26] <clearzen> LiN01:do you know what a live cd is??
[07:26] <Metaj> if you look att the ID 041e:4053 Creative Technology, Ltd
[07:26] <LiN01> yes i know that
[07:26] <LiN01> but dude listen
[07:26] <mwozniak> pixelPOET, does that only keep one day of backups then?
[07:26] <LiN01> the problem is i don't have an ethernet modem yet
[07:26] <pixelPOET> mwozniak, yes...the "-u" flag will update only.
[07:26] <LiN01> so i can't go online either on live cd
[07:26] <Metaj> you will find this device on http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[07:26] <LiN01> thats why i want to install the full version
[07:26] <LiN01> this is the 3th time i have to redo burning a cd for installing linux
[07:26] <mwozniak> pixelPOET, does it add them as a separate file though so I could revert to a specific date?
[07:26] <clearzen> LiN01: Can you mount your hard drive with the live cd?
[07:27] <LiN01> i don't have the live cd yet
[07:27] <LiN01> what is mounting ? making partitions ?
[07:27] <pixelPOET> mwozniak, you can have it do that...check out "man tar"
[07:27] <mwozniak> pixelPOET, yeah i'm reading it now, there is a lot more stuff this can do than I thought
[07:27] <clearzen> LiN01: Mounting is basicly making the drive available for access
[07:27] <Metaj> spca5xx/LE seems to suport them
[07:28] <LiN01> normaly technical way => when people make software people want that it work without having troubles ;)
[07:28] <LiN01> ow
[07:28] <Quixotic> whats ctrl alt f8 do in unbutu.i been messing around with ctrl alt f1-7 changing stuff and i pressed ctrl alt f8 and my screen went black =(
[07:28] <LiN01> okay
[07:28] <LiN01> so how can i mount it i'm using windows now
[07:28] <clearzen> LiN01: um....you would have to do that with a linux live cd unfortunately
[07:28] <pixelPOET> mwozniak, man pages are invaluable...one of linux's main selling points over windows imo.
[07:28] <soundray> Metaj: okay
[07:28] <clearzen> LiN01: any live cd will work
[07:29] <LiN01> kay
[07:29] <tchilly> can anyone help me with my ubuntu install, my computer freezes all the time, under install, when my comp starts up... all time anywhere, exept in "live" mode.... ???? Help
[07:29] <LiN01> i have a live cd from mandriva
[07:29] <LiN01> but mmm
[07:29] <LiN01> i don't have internet because i have an usb modem
[07:29] <clearzen> LiN01: one sec i'm at work
[07:29] <LiN01> so i can't get online on live cd
[07:29] <mwozniak> LiN01, you could probably load a module onto the livecd so that would work
[07:29] <soundray> Metaj: can you open a second terminal and run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog'. Then in the first terminal, run 'sudo modprobe spca5xx'. Pastebin the messages from the tail.
[07:30] <kmaynard> LiN01, have you googled the modem to see if it has any linux support? mandriva is not the last word in linux
[07:30] <LiN01> kmaynard i found the drivers yes
[07:30] <LiN01> but ummm i'm new to linux
[07:30] <LiN01> i dunno if i can install this
[07:30] <moquist> I'm having trouble installing on a Dell PowerEdge 2900. It's got a HW RAID controller and I can't get Ubuntu to boot after install whether I install to one of the two SATA drives or a HW RAID0 combination of the two SATA drives.
[07:30] <erUSUL> !adsl
[07:30] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:31] <erUSUL> !usbmodem
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usbmodem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <erUSUL> !speedtouch
[07:31] <Atomiku> !netinstall
[07:31] <xgm> helo, when i try to run firestarter i get error: (firestarter:16518): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[07:31] <xgm> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speedtouch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:31] <moquist> If I drop to the grub command line I can root(hd0,0), kernel (hd0,0) root=/dev/sda1..., initrd (hd0,0)...and get it to boot until it needs to mount root, and then it's unhappy. (hangs)
[07:31] <LiN01> speedtouch 330  it is
[07:31] <tchilly> anyone help plz? why my comp freeze all time
[07:31] <Atomiku> argh
[07:31] <tchilly> i'm newbee
[07:31] <Atomiku> i used to have a speedtouch modem
[07:31] <Atomiku> it was a f**king nightmare trying to get it working with linux
[07:32] <Atomiku> im tellni you
[07:32] <Atomiku> *tllin
[07:32] <Atomiku> *telling
[07:32] <zaphod> speedtouch see kaella distrib
[07:32] <frederick85> tchilly: could be your hardware.
[07:32] <moquist> During the install it sees /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, and the HW RAID0 device /dev/sdc. At first boot I can't tell what it sees because it hangs...
[07:32] <kmaynard> moquist, havent you asked this before?
[07:32] <frederick85> tchilly: like your powersupply or something
[07:32] <tchilly> howcani check if my hw is ok?
[07:32] <Metaj> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28281/
[07:32] <tchilly> nah "new" computer
[07:32] <moquist> Keybuk: Nope. Never touched this hardware before or had access to any HW RAID for at least...two years. :)
[07:32] <frederick85> tchilly: what type is it< intel?
[07:32] <mwozniak> moquist, do you have it set up right so it knows root is the right partition?
[07:33] <LiN01> i tried this cd on 2 computers
[07:33] <tchilly> there is nothing wrong with the comp, all systems 100%
[07:33] <LiN01> same shit  i have
[07:33] <clearzen> LiN01: are you still there??
[07:33] <Keybuk> moquist: ?
[07:33] <LiN01> yes clearzen
[07:33] <kmaynard> moquist, you probably need to let the ubuntu installer set up raid for you. will make life easier
[07:33] <tchilly> but still the install, everything freezes all time
[07:33] <snedar> hey! does anyone know how to create buttons for /media/Documents in the Places part of gnome-main-menu? it contains .desktop files, should I create a .desktop file for that directory or is there a faster way?
[07:33] <mwozniak> moquist, i had a problem with that once when i installed the swap partition in a different place than normal
[07:33] <kmaynard> if it can see the drives enough to install to them, mdadm will work
[07:33] <moquist> Keybuk: Well, the installer is obviously setting it up incorrectly (as /dev/hdc1, which is how it appears during installation but not afterward, apparently), but root=/dev/sda1 doesn't work, either.
[07:33] <soundray> Metaj: so, nothing happened in the tail when you ran 'sudo modprobe spca5xx'? That's strange.
[07:34] <Keybuk> moquist: but I didn't say anything ?
[07:34] <moquist> kmaynard: if I turn off the HW RAID and tell the BIOS to turn on the SATA controller, then the installer sees no disks at all. I don't have that figured out yet...
[07:34] <xgm> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[07:34] <tchilly> AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+, 1022MB RAM, VIAK8T, GeForce 6600 GT.... HANGS :(
[07:34] <Metaj> yes it did
[07:34] <soundray> Metaj: what do you get from 'lsmod | grep -q spca5xx && echo Loaded"?
[07:34] <xgm> i het this error when i try to run firestarter
[07:35] <mwozniak> moquist, how about /dev/hdc2, /dev/hdc0,/dev/sda0 or /dev/sda2
[07:35] <LiN01> clearzen ?
[07:35] <moquist> kmaynard: the first thing I tried was using SW RAID.
[07:35] <CarinArr> tchilly, hangs how and when?
[07:35] <clearzen> LiN01: boot into a live cd and go to the terminal. THe command "mount" should show you the location of your harddrive (most likely hda) then once you have that type mkdir /mnt/hda   then  mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda
[07:35] <Metaj> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28282/
[07:35] <tchilly> all time anywhere
[07:35] <kmaynard> moquist, it wont work in conjunction with the hardware?
[07:35] <LiN01> yes and then ?
[07:35] <CarinArr> tchilly, sort of has a pattern to it or random?
[07:35] <soundray> Metaj: ah, okay
[07:35] <LiN01> and then i can install ubuntu ?
[07:35] <tchilly> random
[07:35] <soundray> Metaj: give me a minute
[07:35] <clearzen> that should mount your hard drive so you can browse it
[07:36] <moquist> mwozniak: well, it's definitely the first partition of whatever device. should I just keep blindly poking around at /dev/[sh] d{a,b,c}{0,1,2) until I have success? :p
[07:36] <Metaj> no problem ......thanks man
[07:36] <clearzen> LiN01: one sec
[07:36] <LiN01> okay so i will be able to install ubuntu then right
[07:36] <LiN01> kay i got time :p
[07:36] <CarinArr> tchilly, have you run anything other than ubuntu on it?
[07:36] <mwozniak> moquist, i think grub and linux use different values as the starting partition
[07:36] <mwozniak> moquist, one uses 0 and the other uses 1
[07:36] <moquist> heh. they sure do. :)
[07:36] <tchilly> tried a freshinstall, formatted all harddrive
[07:36] <snedar> (never mind my question, creating .desktop files is easier than I thought)
[07:36] <xgm> can anyone help me with firestarter ?
[07:37] <moquist> I'm aware of that. I've never heard of /dev/[sh] d?0 - Linux starts numbering partitions at 1.
[07:37] <CarinArr> tchilly, using 64bit ubuntu or 32?
[07:37] <mwozniak> moquist, if changing that around doesn't help, then it's probably a problem with the sata
[07:37] <kmaynard> grub numbers from 0
[07:37] <mwozniak> moquist, ok i had that backwards then
[07:37] <clearzen> LiN01: if it gives you errors while trying to mount that is most likely your problem with the install cds
[07:38] <LiN01> okay clearzen
[07:38] <moquist> OK. SO nobody's pointed out anything obviously dumb that I'm doing... I'll keep trying. I've been told that SUSE installed on here without a problem, and that's making me all the more determined to make this work...
[07:38] <LiN01> so do i have to try it now?
[07:38] <clearzen> LiN01:The solution would be to resize your NTFS partition manually
[07:38] <frederick85> Someone tell me another program than K3b for copying cd's
[07:38] <clearzen> LiN01:using a program on the ubuntu live cd like gparted
[07:38] <snedar> frederick85: gnomebaker? never used it...
[07:38] <LiN01> uhu okay
[07:38] <clearzen> LiN01: or qtparted on mandrivia i belileve
[07:38] <LiN01> i have mandriva live cd yes
[07:38] <LiN01> okay step by step
[07:39] <LiN01> i gonna try first to mount right
[07:39] <LiN01> i will note it down
[07:39] <clearzen> LiN01: yeah
[07:39] <LiN01> then second if that doesn't work
[07:39] <LiN01> wich commands
[07:39] <frederick85> snedar: thanks
[07:39] <clearzen> LiN01: right
[07:39] <kmaynard> moquist, if you have time and feel frisky, you could try installing suse. if it works, make note of how and why, then use that in ubuntu
[07:39] <clearzen> LiN01: just ry to mount it first and see what it tells you
[07:39] <kmaynard> i did that a lot when i moved from redhat to gentoo
[07:39] <LiN01> okay
[07:39] <LiN01> i be back dont go okay
[07:40] <LiN01> see ya in like 10 minutes
[07:40] <clearzen> LiN01:k  i'm at work for a while
[07:40] <Quixotic> in mysql typing mysql -u is that the same as typing mysql -user ?
[07:40] <LiN01> k
[07:41] <dabaR> Quixotic: --user = -u, man mysql
[07:41] <Quixotic> whats man mysql?
[07:41] <LjL> !man | Quixotic
[07:41] <ubotu> Quixotic: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:41] <Flats> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu and was wondering what I would need to do to install a generic USB mouse?
[07:41] <kmaynard> Flats, plug it in
[07:41] <Flats> I did
[07:42] <Quixotic> sweet thx
[07:42] <piff> Greetings.
[07:42] <kmaynard> restart gdm
[07:42] <Quixotic> man life dosent seem to work =(
[07:42] <LiN01> when i mount my hardisk will i lose my windows etc and everything on my hardisk ?
[07:42] <kmaynard> Flats, log out, then hit CTRL ALT BACKSPACE
[07:42] <LiN01> because i want linux and windows on same hardisk clark^
[07:42] <LiN01> clearzen
[07:42] <clearzen> LiN01: yeah
[07:42] <LjL> !dualboot | LiN01
[07:42] <ubotu> LiN01: Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[07:43] <kmaynard> LjL, nice, i didnt know you could pipe ubotu like that
[07:43] <Atomiku> !netinstall
[07:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:43] <soundray> Metaj: could you check once more the output of 'ls -l /dev/video*' pls
[07:43] <monad> hi, i'm running ubuntu on an office machine. recently upgraded to dapper, then direct rendering for the radeon card was gone. after trying to fix it several ways, i installed several restricted modules or whatever they call them, which seemingly also installed the 2.6.15-27-k7 sources. after a reboot, the system froze while "uncompressing linux, ok... booting the kernel"
[07:44] <LjL> kmaynard: new feature
[07:44] <kmaynard> 00t
[07:44] <jmitchj> I'm still trying to get my wireless working....keep getting No suitable AP found during scan...any idea why?
[07:45] <Metaj> soundray, it says in swedish that the fike or the cataloge dos not exist
[07:45] <Metaj> ls: /dev/video: Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[07:45] <dabaR> jmitchj: it shows the interface in sudo iwconfig output?
[07:45] <piff> Hello.  I've just downloaded Sun JDK1.5.  I downloaded the .bin file, and ran it as normal user.  It didn't 'install' binaries, it simply extracted the contents into an aptly named java folder in the current directory.  How do I 'properly' install it using update alternatives?
[07:45] <LjL> No such file or directory
[07:45] <dabaR> !java
[07:45] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:46] <shinnok> Hi, I am trying to install Battlefield 2142 with cedega. But when the installation starts, right after I choose my language, I get a errormessage saying I have to run the installation as admin. Never got this problem before when installing games. Any ideas what the problem is?
[07:46] <javier> you must log in whit the root acount...
[07:46] <jmitchj> dabaR: it shows but has Access Point: Invalid
[07:47] <jcsteele> if i am running a release canidate of edgy, will i need to reinstall tomarrow with the new release? or will i just recieve the appropriate updates?
[07:47] <dabaR> jmitchj: and sudo iwlist <iface> scan shows no suitable ap found?
[07:47] <dabaR> jcsteele: option number 2
[07:47] <Quixotic> shinnok isnt that a windows game?
[07:47] <dabaR> !cedega
[07:47] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:47] <frederick85> shinnok: try running it under su
[07:48] <rag> gnubien, is there?
[07:48] <Quixotic> wow windows games under linux. is there anything this thing cant do?
[07:48] <shinnok> frederick85, I tried that. Didnt work.
[07:48] <dabaR> Quixotic: yes, plenty
[07:48] <pixelPOET> Quixotic, don't get too excited...gaming on Linux leaves MUCH to be desired.
[07:49] <Quixotic> so i shouldnt go scrub my windows box right now?
[07:49] <soundray> Metaj: normally, I would expect the driver loading to result in the device file turning up. Since that doesn't happen, let's try forcing it. Enter 'sudo mknod /dev/video0 c 81 0'
[07:49] <dabaR> Quixotic: or in a few days...
[07:49] <dabaR> Quixotic: or run dual boot
[07:49] <pixelPOET> Quixotic, if you have a need to play games...no.
[07:49] <yrlnry_> How do I add a program that I installed myself to the "applications" menu?
[07:49] <Dasnipa] [> i wouldnt say 'much' to be desired dabaR
[07:49] <dabaR> Dasnipa] [: neither have I
[07:49] <jmitchj> dabaR: No Scan results
[07:49] <pixelPOET> yrlnry_, use the Alacarte Menu Editor
[07:49] <ZirJoker> is there any mmorpg game for linux?
[07:49] <Quixotic> i think tibia.com has a linux version
[07:49] <Dasnipa] [> oh opps i mean pixelPOET
[07:50] <frederick85> ZirJoke: there is yes
[07:50] <Quixotic> but its an old school mmo with 2d graphics
[07:50] <dabaR> jmitchj: it looks like the driver is not installed properly to me.
[07:50] <thee> ZirJoker did you get listen installed?
[07:50] <ZirJoker> i refer to... ragnarok or somethjing
[07:50] <yrlnry_> pixelPOET: thanks.
[07:50] <pixelPOET> Dasnipa] [, well...it leaves SOMETHING at least :P
[07:50] <robnyc> how do I refresh Grub since I just added Windows and would like to see if it can detect it and add it to grub ?
[07:50] <jmitchj> dabaR: can;t seem to find a driver to work i guess
[07:50] <pixelPOET> yrlnry_, np.
[07:50] <frederick85> ZirJoker try Planeshift
[07:50] <jmitchj> dabaR: I've tried multiple
[07:50] <ZirJoker> planeshift
[07:50] <dabaR> jmitchj: I never had to do that, so I am not experienced with it.
[07:50] <ZirJoker> no i didnt gewt listen installend
[07:50] <jcsteele> dabaR: awesome...that makes life much easier :)
[07:50] <ZirJoker> coulnd
[07:51] <ZirJoker> coulnt
[07:51] <ZirJoker> *
[07:51] <Metaj> I did it
[07:51] <jmitchj> anyone else have any ideas on this wireless thing?
[07:51] <Flats> To those who helped...Thank You.  As a system engineer, I should check to verify that the USB ports are enabled in BIOS before asking for help...HeHe.  Thanks All mouse works fine
[07:51] <frederick85> ZirJoker: come again?
[07:51] <dabaR> jcsteele: yes it does, I agree
[07:51] <njal> !grub
[07:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:51] <Metaj> soundray dont forget I use AMD 64bit
[07:51] <ZirJoker> what?
[07:51] <frederick85> Is there a good program for wireless network detection and stuff?
[07:52] <soundray> Metaj: now run xawtv -device /dev/video0 . amd64 makes no difference.
[07:52] <M_A_K> I have a laptop that is hozed.  It cannot boot windows.  I can boot ubuntu live cd.  I need to get doc's off. Think it is ntfs (it is not my laptop).  I can see the drive when I browse the computer.
[07:52] <njal> !networkmanager
[07:52] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[07:52] <frederick85> ZirJoker: say again what you said clearly
[07:52] <ZirJoker> ooh
[07:52] <dabaR> frederick85: there is one for network detection, for stuff, we are still looking for a good program
[07:52] <M_A_K> When I try to open the disk, I get an error
[07:52] <ZirJoker> i didnt install listen, i cannot install it
[07:52] <thee> ZirJoker: let me try to help you...
[07:53] <ZirJoker> ok
[07:53] <M_A_K> How do I mount this disk so I can grab the files?
[07:53] <jcsteele> dabaR: the only problem i am having so far with the release candidate is wireless networking...i use to recieve a list of available networks in the network configuration window...not i recieve nothing and manually have to type in the SSID
[07:53] <Flats> Is there a document that will show how to setup an NFS share?  I have 3 computers on a simple workgroup network and want to use Ubuntu as a file server type of station
[07:53] <chuckp> Anyone: Where can I get a list of repositories?
[07:53] <njal> any grub experts here?
[07:53] <soundray> !repos
[07:53] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:53] <chuckp> ;)
[07:53] <monad> njal: what's the problem?
[07:53] <ZirJoker> !easysource
[07:53] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:53] <ZirJoker> ok thee i want you to help me
[07:53] <ZirJoker> xD
[07:53] <dabaR> M_A_K: well, what I usually do is... start with runing mount and post what is says to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:54] <soundray> !nfs > Flats
[07:54] <Flats> !nfs
[07:54] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:54] <njal> monad: I have a tripple hard drive quad boot system, and despite XP being the first OS installed on the slave IDE drive it's the one that always boots
[07:54] <M_A_K> Problem is that laptop is not on network.  Cannot paste
[07:54] <monad> is the 2.6.15-27 kernel broken, anyone?
[07:54] <piff> Excellent.  Thanks for that URL.
[07:54] <piff> CHeers
[07:54] <Flats> Many thanks, this channel rocks!!! :)
[07:54] <monad> njal: ok, no idea about that, sorr
[07:54] <monad> y
[07:54] <soundray> monad: not here and on 6 other installations I've done
[07:55] <dholbach> !edgy
[07:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:55] <dholbach> !schedule
[07:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:55] <thee> ZirJoker accept sources.list to anywhere you like.
[07:55] <dabaR> M_A_K: look for line that has ntfs in it, and tell me the /dev/hdaX whatever it says, the partition name
[07:55] <ZirJoker> eeh how do i accept it?
[07:55] <M_A_K> dabaR : hang on, it restarted on me.  As soon as its up, I will
[07:56] <dabaR> M_A_K: im here
[07:56] <soundray> Metaj: did it crash again?
[07:56] <monad> soundray: while trying to get fglrx running, i installed several linux-restricted-modules, and it automatically installed 2.6.15-27-k7 - then when i reboot, it freezes on "uncompressing linux... booting the kernel"
[07:56] <moquist> kmaynard: heh - I don't feel like friskily installing SUSE.
[07:56] <ZirJoker> thee send again plz
[07:56] <Metaj> soundray : My computer become black and I had to restart it
[07:56] <soundray> monad: pick one of the older kernels from the grub menu
[07:56] <frederick85> how do you update the menus
[07:57] <moquist> kmaynard: My current tactic is to try to identify which modules the installation kernel has loaded that the -server kernel does not.
[07:57] <thee> ZirJoker ok file transfer is not possible it seems...
[07:57] <soundray> frederick85: 'sudo update-menus'
[07:57] <ZirJoker> why?
[07:57] <moquist> kmaynard: Also, I just chrooted into my installation and installed and executed sshd, so now I can get in and use it as if it were working, regardless. :-)
[07:57] <monad> soundray: how do i get to the grub menu? ubuntu is so darn untransparent...
[07:57] <ZirJoker> cant you send it directly with some linux terminal command? XDDD
[07:57] <thee> ZirJoker go to http://listengnome.free.fr/
[07:57] <monad> the only way i can think of is booting a live cd
[07:57] <frederick85> soundray: that comman isn't found
[07:57] <dabaR> frederick85: what menus? update how?
[07:57] <xgm> how to run firestarter
[07:57] <xgm> ?
[07:58] <Metaj> soundray please tell me the other test program you talked about
[07:58] <ZirJoker> ok
[07:58] <ZirJoker> then?
[07:58] <soundray> monad: when you boot, the first thing it stops at should be the grub menu
[07:58] <monad> xgm: bang your head and make faces
[07:58] <frederick85> dabaR the applications menu
[07:58] <xgm> monad: what do you mean?
[07:58] <soundray> Metaj: gqcam
[07:58] <thee> ZirJoker go to downloads and copy the repo dapper links both of them
[07:58] <monad> soundray: right, kinda looks different than the grub prompts i'm used to
[07:58] <M_A_K> dabaR : nothing about ntfs, nothing about hda at all
[07:58] <monad> xgm: nothing, just joking about The Prodigy
[07:59] <ZirJoker> ok
[07:59] <soundray> frederick85: do you have the 'menu' package installed?
[07:59] <|CADE|> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284316
[07:59] <xgm> monad, can you help me to run firestarter ?
[07:59] <monad> nope
[07:59] <frederick85> soundray: installing it now thanks
[07:59] <thee> ZirJoker now sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:59] <B-Minus> im a firestarter
[07:59] <dabaR> M_A_K: and where do you say you see the drive?
[07:59] <monad> wicked
[07:59] <M_A_K> computer - File Browser
[08:00] <monad> soundray: thanks, will try that tomorrow, hopefully they're there
[08:00] <dabaR> frederick85: update it how? you installed something you know has a menu icon and it is not shown there, or you want to add an icon to it?
[08:00] <M_A_K> 34.2 GB volume
[08:00] <tont> hello...kwin is crashed..can i restore it? thanks...
[08:00] <ZirJoker> where do i place the links?
[08:00] <thee> opened sources.list?
[08:00] <ZirJoker> there are many places to put theme
[08:00] <ZirJoker> yes
[08:00] <frederick85> dabaR i want to know how to get to network manager for detecting wireless networks
[08:00] <dabaR> M_A_K: does it say anything about a directory, like /media?
[08:00] <Flats> !telnet
[08:00] <ubotu> telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh
[08:00] <M_A_K> mo
[08:00] <Flats> !ssh
[08:00] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:00] <M_A_K> *no
[08:00] <tont> help
[08:00] <soundray> !network-manager-gnome
[08:00] <thee> ZirJoker paste it in a new line
[08:01] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME Frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 234 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[08:01] <dabaR> frederick85: try running it in a command line.
[08:01] <ZirJoker> at the bottom?
[08:01] <soundray> frederick85: ^^
[08:01] <tont> kwin is crashed..can i restore it? thanks...
[08:01] <thee> yep that will do
[08:01] <dabaR> M_A_K: this is an older version of ubuntu, which one?
[08:01] <r0bert> anyone who knows which time the 6.10 release will be uploaded to the ubuntu server ?
[08:01] <M_A_K> Live CD 6.0.6 LTS
[08:01] <Enselic> I just had to reboot because RealPlayer messed up my system. What is the panic keycombo on Ubuntu?
[08:01] <thee> ZirJoker now save and exit
[08:01] <dabaR> M_A_K: sudo fdisk -l in a terminal has to show a ntfs line.
[08:01] <frederick85> soundray: no it's not found
[08:01] <ZirJoker> ok
[08:02] <thee> Enselic: Ctrl-Alt-Bcksp. Restarts Xserver
[08:02] <soundray> frederick85: which one?
[08:02] <Flats> !openssh-server
[08:02] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB
[08:02] <Enselic> thee: I tired that, but it didnt work
[08:02] <thee> ZirJoker: now sudo apt-get update
[08:02] <thee> Enselic: then I cant help you. sorry.
[08:03] <moquist> kmaynard: know any good way to tell which module is responsible for the presence of a particular device?
[08:03] <ZirJoker> ok
[08:03] <ZirJoker> now?
[08:03] <thee> ZirJoker:  now sudo apt-get install listen
[08:04] <ZirJoker> :o
[08:04] <ZirJoker> installing
[08:04] <ZirJoker> :P
[08:04] <thee> ZirJoker: done I suppose?
[08:04] <ZirJoker> n_n
[08:04] <M_A_K> debaR : when I mount /dev/hda2 /media/temp (I created /media/temp) it appears to mount.
[08:04] <ZirJoker> yes
[08:04] <jmitchj> Can someone tell me if in this command for wireless...the ssid is my essid key?...ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant  network ={ ssid="YourWiFiSSID"
[08:05] <M_A_K> However when I try to access /media/temp... I get permission denied.
[08:05] <frederick85> soundray: network-manager network-manager-gnome
[08:05] <dabaR> M_A_K: sudo ls that dir, and see whether it is the 1
[08:05] <ZirJoker> thx thx
[08:05] <soundray> frederick85: are you on i386?
[08:05] <M_A_K> Ah, forgot the sudo.  I see it now.
[08:06] <ZirJoker> thee i want to install more and more things
[08:06] <ZirJoker> xDD
[08:06] <dabaR> M_A_K: then umount it and then mount it with the -oumask=0222 -tntfs options
[08:06] <ZirJoker> to make my pc nicer
[08:06] <dabaR> M_A_K: that will give you the permissions
[08:06] <frederick85> soundray: yes i386
[08:06] <soundray> frederick85: dapper?
[08:06] <jmitchj> and in this command...is it the same sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "AP" key ababababababababab mode Managed?
[08:06] <frederick85> soundray: yep
[08:06] <thee> ZirJoker: like what ;)
[08:06] <ZirJoker> dunno XD
[08:07] <ZirJoker> any game?
[08:07] <ZirJoker> or...
[08:07] <ferret0567> I have the Alternative Install CD and GRUB, no matter how many different FS types I try for /, never loads Ubuntu
[08:07] <ZirJoker> eeh another media player
[08:07] <ZirJoker> XD
[08:07] <soundray> frederick85: your package list up to date? (sudo apt-get update)
[08:07] <frederick85> soundray: what is the unix shell command to pause the output one page at a time?
[08:07] <marcrosoft> a few minutes after boot my file system will go read only,.. and upon reboot, I will have hard drive errors?  is my hard drive going bad or something else getting messed up?
[08:07] <soundray> frederick85: less
[08:07] <dabaR> frederick85: less
[08:07] <frederick85> soundray: i'v installed network manager
[08:07] <Enselic> Is there a way to let Alt + Tab switch between all windowses in all workspaces?
[08:07] <ferret0567> GRUB never loads Ubuntu
[08:07] <Metaj> sound ray can you please look at this side
[08:07] <thee> ZirJoker: lurk around ubuntuforums.org. you will get everything you can wish for.
[08:07] <kmaynard> ferret0567, look into lilo
[08:07] <ferret0567>  I have the Alternative Install CD and GRUB, no matter how many different FS types I try for /, GRUB never loads Ubuntu
[08:07] <ferret0567> There you go
[08:07] <Metaj> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Spca5xx
[08:08] <soundray> marcrosoft: dying harddisk
[08:08] <frederick85> soundray: no not display the contents of a file but to pause the output of an ls command one page at a time
[08:08] <Pupeno_> Hello.
[08:08] <Pupeno_> Does edgy include GNUcash 2.0 ?
[08:08] <soundray> frederick85: ls | less
[08:08] <jcsteele_> frederick85: command | less
[08:08] <dabaR> !gnucash edgy
[08:08] <davvs> where do i set the hostname for the computer?
[08:08] <Metaj> it says that both video0 and video shuold exist
[08:08] <RevThwack> ferret0567: you're not doing something like installing windows after, are you?
[08:08] <ZirJoker> :o
[08:08] <ubotu> gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.1-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2014 kB, installed size 6388 kB
[08:08] <kmaynard> Pupeno_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:09] <ferret0567> And last time I installed Ubuntu with XFS and LILO...LILO went error "L 99 99 99 99 99..." until it finally stopped
[08:09] <frederick85> ok i found it in /usr/bin nm-tool
[08:09] <soundray> Metaj: don't worry about /dev/video for now. It should be just a symlink to /dev/video0 anyway. Make sure that the latter exists still.
[08:09] <marcrosoft> soundray, alright, ill run some diagnostics on it
[08:09] <samuel__> i whant to wine warcraft 3 but do i need to have installed the nvidia driver?
[08:09] <samuel__> or does it work without it?
[08:09] <Metaj> yes it dose now since we created one
[08:09] <soundray> marcrosoft: better back up your data in a hurry, then do diagnostics
[08:09] <Metaj> forsly
[08:10] <ZirJoker> ok ciao
[08:10] <M_A_K> dabaR : Thanks, I need to restart, the computer shutdown.  Think I need the AC adapter.
[08:10] <soundray> Metaj: it could have gone away on the reboot
[08:10] <lerkio> can anyone help me with playing dvd's??? PM ME
[08:10] <marcrosoft> soundray, i dont have any data on my OS drive
[08:10] <LjL> !pm | lerkio
[08:10] <ubotu> lerkio: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[08:10] <ferret0567> I have Windows on the first HD and I put Linux and a Linux bootloader on the second HD. I have Windows installed first
[08:10] <marcrosoft> soundray, other than the ubuntu itself...
[08:10] <RevThwack> samuel: You'll want the driver. Need to have decent hardware 3d acceleration.
[08:10] <Metaj> aha
[08:10] <soundray> marcrosoft: I'm glad for you. Just throw it in the garbage.
[08:11] <samuel__> RevThwack ok...
[08:11] <marcrosoft> soundray, you sure its the drive?
[08:11] <RevThwack> ferret0567: what does your grub or lilo config look like?
[08:11] <seamus_ie> hey all
[08:11] <soundray> marcrosoft: sorry, of course it's worth running some diagnostics.
[08:11] <xxjmakxx> Anyone ever install on a Sony C1 picturebook laptop?
[08:11] <soundray> marcrosoft: could be the controller.
[08:11] <seamus_ie> any ideas about a good lightweight media player along the lines of windows media player?
[08:11] <ferret0567> Oh, I'll have to dig it out later
[08:11] <marcrosoft> soundray, yeah, was gonna try spin rite
[08:11] <samuel__> RevThwack the bad thing is that i getting problems then i am installing the nvidia driver...
[08:11] <dabaR> M_A_K: you're welcome
[08:11] <seamus_ie> (i want something to manage all my files for me)
[08:11] <Metaj> soundray thats thru there is no video0 enymore
[08:12] <RevThwack> samuel: what problems? the nvidia drivers should work pretty much problem free, unlike ATI drivers.
[08:12] <soundray> seamus_ie: like a secretary?
[08:12] <ferret0567> I doubt you people on this channel would find anything unusual
[08:12] <dabaR> tonyyserver: do you speak?
[08:12] <seamus_ie> soundray: exactly!!
[08:12] <RevThwack> Heh, it's amazing what kind of things you run into.
[08:12] <alexis> hi
[08:13] <soundray> seamus_ie: #jobcentre ;)
[08:13] <njal> monad: Can you help me translate my drive map into what it should be in grub then?
[08:14] <whiz2> I'm trying to share a printer in Kubuntu using Samba to share with Windows XP Pro, Windows 98, and another Kubuntu PC. Any time I try to export drivers, Linux tells me there are some missing drivers. Any time I try to install the printer in one of the other computers, I get a message stating that drivers are not available on the originating PC, and install fails. How do I share my printer from Kubuntu using Samba?
[08:14] <ferret0567> I'll see later about this problem of mine...
[08:14] <alexis> i have a little problem with xorg.
[08:14] <soundray> Metaj: 'sudo mknod /dev/video0 c 81 0'
[08:14] <alexis> a "mouse" problem
[08:14] <RevThwack> alexis: what's it doing?
[08:14] <gh0st> sudo update-alternatives --config javac
[08:14] <samuel__> RevThwach whant me to paste my xorg error log?
[08:14] <alexis> the modifier keys won t work
[08:15] <gh0st> hello, did anybody successfully installed sun java SDK?
[08:15] <TheGateKeeper> whiz2: what is your printer?
[08:15] <Metaj> OK
[08:15] <njal> !automatix| ghOst
[08:15] <ubotu> ghOst: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[08:15] <RevThwack> samuel: message it to me. also list what drives you have, what partitions are on them, and what OS is on what partition.
[08:15] <soundray> whiz2: if I remember this correctly, you need to place the Windows drivers somewhere on the server's drive, so they are exported
[08:15] <alexis> a an example i can not rotate desktops with beryl or zoom or anything that uses alt shift or ctrl
[08:15] <dabaR> whiz2:  If there is no linux driver available for your printer and you want to use this printer only from your windows workstations trough SAMBA, you can use the printer manufacturer RAW and install the correct driver on your windows workstation.
[08:16] <alexis> and i have problems to get the focus once a window is clicked
[08:16] <whiz2> Epson Stylus 660 Linux comes with drivers for itself, but no windows drivers
[08:16] <alexis> it's not a beryl problem since i have this problem with xfw toom
[08:16] <soundray> Metaj: to test, you can then run 'sudo modprobe spca5xx && gqcam -v /dev/video0'
[08:16] <alexis> xfwm4
[08:16] <dabaR> whiz2: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=samba+ubuntu+printer+driver&btnG=Search
[08:17] <RevThwack> alexis: someone else here can probably help you with the key bindings... never done much of that myself. what do you mean by focus errors? What exacly is it doing?
[08:17] <alexis> so
[08:17] <alexis> when i have 2 windows
[08:17] <treitter> I'd like to apply the Debian patches within a source package directory (the one that's made by "apt-get source foo") - is there a better way to do that than running dpkg-buildpackage and interrupting it?  (is manually applying the patches good enough?)
[08:18] <alexis> and i click on the window on the foreground
[08:18] <dabaR> gh0st: yes, many people are you having trouble?
[08:18] <Mirrado> Hi people
[08:18] <TheGateKeeper> whiz2: http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=14423&infoType=Overview
[08:18] <gh0st> dabaR: yes
[08:18] <jmitchj> Could someone help me with what goes in this command exactly?...sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "AP" key ababababababababab mode Managed
[08:18] <Mirrado> How do I start the ubuntu livecd in text mode?
[08:18] <alexis> background sorry
[08:18] <dabaR> gh0st: why? what are you doing and what is the error?
[08:18] <gh0st> dabaR: the javac command does not work
[08:18] <Pupeno_> I remember there was a program, of which images where distributed that could be written to a floppy to boot from it and then be able to boot from CD, Hard disk, or some other options. Does anybody know what am I talking about ?
[08:18] <alexis> and it does not come on the foreground
[08:19] <soundray> Pupeno_: smart boot manager
[08:19] <gh0st> dabaR: i also uninstalled the default java but it didn't work
[08:19] <soundray> !sbm
[08:19] <ubotu> sbm: Smart Boot Manager (SBM) is a full-featured boot manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.7.1-7 (dapper), package size 308 kB, installed size 924 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[08:19] <Pupeno_> soundray: that rings a bell, thanks.
[08:19] <dabaR> jmitchj: it sets up the wlan0 interface with the essid as specified, and key as specified and mode as specified. man iwconfig for exact info
[08:19] <gh0st> dabaR: what do you get typing "javac -version"
[08:19] <gh0st> ?
[08:19] <cappiz> how can make saslauthd run as specified user?
[08:19] <TheGateKeeper> whiz2: with what I gave you yesterday this should have been a 10 minute job
[08:19] <landexem> What's the package name that lets one play MP3 files in something other than xine?  (I have libxine-extracodecs and xine apps can play MP3s but not other apps)
[08:19] <dabaR> gh0st: javac 1.5.0_05
[08:20] <alexis> nobody have this problem?
[08:20] <gh0st> dabaR: for me, it simply shows the help file, and gives compiling errors!?
[08:20] <netrix> after modifying grubs menu.lst file what command do i have to run?
[08:20] <RevThwack> alexis: like it's not registering the click? you tried playing around to make sure your mouse isn't going bad?
[08:20] <alexis> i had it on a gentoo too
[08:20] <jmitchj> dabaR: so the ababababababababa is my essid?
[08:20] <soundray> Metaj: how are you getting on?
[08:20] <alexis> the mouse is going very well
[08:20] <dabaR> gh0st: install this package from multiverse sun-java5-jdk
[08:20] <gh0st> dabaR: i did
[08:20] <dabaR> jmitchj: no, that is the key
[08:21] <alexis> i can scroll a firefox in the background, but if i click on it, it just donc comes in the foreground
[08:21] <jmitchj> dabaR: where do i get the key from?
[08:21] <thee> can i get a dos based C++ to work on ubuntu?
[08:21] <alexis> "don't" not "donc" sorry
[08:21] <thee> can i get a dos based C++ IDE to work on ubuntu?
[08:21] <RevThwack> alexis: are you certain that the left mouse button is working fine elsewhere? sounds like it's sensor is going bad.
[08:21] <fydo> thee: try dosbox
[08:21] <soundray> thee: within dosemu, probably
[08:21] <dabaR> jmitchj: it is your router wep key
[08:21] <njal> How do i determine how grub see's my devices
[08:21] <alexis> no it works well
[08:21] <dabaR> gh0st: and javac gives you an error?
[08:22] <thee> tried that. it doesn't show up. The IDE I mean.
[08:22] <alexis> i had this problem on a gentoo, then i tried the same config on ubuntu
[08:22] <gh0st> dabaR: only if i compile a code which I KNOW has no errors (hello world)
[08:22] <soundray> thee: oops, I'm not up to date
[08:22] <alexis> it worked very well for one day
[08:22] <netrix> anyone know what i need to run after modifying grub's menu.lst file?  with lilo i had to run 'lilo' after reconfiguring.
[08:22] <alexis> but now i have exactly the same bug
[08:22] <thee> fydo soundray I am talking about TuboC++
[08:23] <JosefK> hey, I'm just wondering if there's a difference between the text-mode install on the alternate CD, and the server CD?
[08:23] <soundray> netrix: nothing
[08:23] <RevThwack> alexis: try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and setting up your mouse again.
[08:23] <alexis> it's like a key of my keyboard was pressed
[08:23] <netrix> soundray: oh! okay.  thought i had to run something.  thanks.
[08:23] <alexis> ok i try
[08:24] <davvs> how can i get the current system time in an terminal? :-)
[08:24] <dabaR> gh0st: show me the .java file on pastebin, please.
[08:24] <walkover> hey does anyone know a good algebraric calculator for linux. Something like a TI-89 on linux ??
[08:24] <JosefK> !schedule
[08:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:24] <Metaj> soundray steel no cam
[08:24] <JosefK> walkover: octave
[08:24] <walkover> thanks
[08:24] <Metaj> I maked dmesg
[08:24] <soundray> netrix: the difference between grub and lilo is that grub can read a filesystem, while lilo needs to know where its config is physically located on the disk.
[08:24] <gh0st> dabaR: i managed to compile on several other machines, even on this one, but then java gave me an error
[08:24] <Siph0n> hmmmm.... does "lspci -v" , tell me which chipset my wireless card has? :)
[08:25] <berkes> does anyone know if its possible to install a stripped down ubuntu (server) on a machine with only ~12M ram :)
[08:25] <Metaj> and I now got something als
[08:25] <Siph0n> cause i do it, and dont see any chipsets
[08:25] <soundray> Metaj: so the driver is loaded, and you have the /dev/video0 device. Correct?
[08:25] <dabaR> gh0st: do you have /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/javac?
[08:25] <berkes> I want to make that a slim-device/remote client.
[08:25] <netrix> soundray: thanks i didn't know that.  still trying to learn grub adter using lilo for many years.
[08:25] <Metaj> look att this
[08:25] <berkes> basically a frontend for the music-server I run in house.
[08:25] <gh0st> dabaR: no (!?)
[08:26] <Metaj> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28288/
[08:26] <dabaR> gh0st: how about /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/bin/javac
[08:26] <RevThwack> berkes: look into something more along the lines of the dsl distro.
[08:26] <Metaj> it seems to be corect
[08:26] <jmitchj> dabaR: i don't have a WEP key, I have a WPA key
[08:26] <dabaR> jmitchj: then you need wpasupplicant
[08:26] <gh0st> dabaR: yes
[08:26] <berkes> RevThwack: I run DSL on that now, but cannot get any of my PCMCIA netcards running on that :/
[08:26] <Metaj> but steel no video
[08:27] <dabaR> gh0st: does compiling with that one give you an error?
[08:27] <RevThwack> berkes: what error are they giving you?
[08:27] <gh0st> dabaR: yes
[08:27] <jmitchj> dabaR: I have that i think
[08:27] <gh0st> dabaR: could i reinstall it completely fro mscratch maybe?
[08:27] <kamil> jest tu jakis polak ?
[08:28] <GnarusLeo> !udsf
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udsf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <dabaR> gh0st: is it possible that line ending are giving you the problem, as in \r\n vs \n?
[08:28] <dabaR> !pl
[08:28] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:28] <Pupeno_> Do you know any application to keep track of clients and related information (companies, people on the companies, related info, tickets, projects, files, etc) ?
[08:28] <gh0st> dabaR: what steps should i make in order to have it using?
[08:29] <berkes> RevThwack: depends. My wireless card just freezes the system w/o any logs. Untill I remove that wireless card, then all runs fine, my normal ethernet adpater works fine, until I run cartctl info/insert then it freezes and crashes the systm, again w/o leaving a trace in the logs.
[08:29] <soundray> Metaj: I can't see a problem. This is the same output you had before, isn't it?
[08:29] <dabaR> gh0st: i just installed that package
[08:29] <njal> How do I install grub without having to reinstall the whole system?
[08:29] <|CADE|> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284316
[08:29] <dabaR> !grub
[08:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:29] <gh0st> dabaR: and nothing else?
[08:29] <dabaR> the windows entry shows how
[08:29] <njal> Yeah I looked at that but it's offering no help
[08:29] <Metaj> ok it means that there is no solution
[08:30] <Metaj> soundray I would like to thank you for your time
[08:30] <gh0st> dabaR: i still get this compiler error :-(
[08:30] <dabaR> gh0st: it seems I am using an installation of the sun official .bin package. with make-jpkg and so on.
[08:30] <soundray> Metaj: did you compile the driver yourself?
[08:30] <Metaj> Yes I followed the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Spca5xx
[08:30] <ivx> does anyone know how to get the broadcom 4318 working? does anyone know if ipw2200 driver will work
[08:30] <berkes> RevThwack: now that I am grepping the logs, it seems one card leaves a hint: cs: socket..... timed out during reset. Try increasing setup_delay
[08:31] <alexis> hi again
[08:31] <njal> ivx: What hardware are you useing?
[08:31] <Metaj> I Have right to return my camera on the shop
[08:31] <alexis> still the same problem
[08:31] <Metaj> seans it is two days old
[08:31] <jmitchj> dabaR: is psk="YourWiFiPassword" in wpa_supplicant.conf....my WPA key?
[08:31] <soundray> Metaj: okay, sorry you had no luck.
[08:31] <Lattyware> Could someone please help me with two problems?: 1) My DNS server settings are lost at boot. (Static IP) 2) My Audio sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.
[08:31] <ivx> njal it is built into a notebook, airfore 54g broadcom 4318 is all i know
[08:32] <njal> ivx: iBook G4?
[08:32] <ivx> njal, no compaq
[08:32] <njal> ivx: Well i suppose it does not matter
[08:32] <Metaj> do you have any suggestions on which camera I should bye whithout needing to get it so complecated
[08:32] <njal> ivx: I have the thing working
[08:32] <ivx> njal, did you you ndis wrapper
[08:32] <njal> ivx: Install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[08:32] <dabaR> jmitchj: seems so
[08:33] <njal> ivx: ndiswrapper does not work on PPC
[08:33] <dabaR> gh0st: you can try rolling your own java 1.5 package, after you download the sun .bin file.
[08:33] <ivx> njal is that all you did to make it work
[08:33] <RevThwack> berkes: that enough for you to follow?
[08:33] <justthisguy> hey guys, where can I get w32codecs? the wiki says freecontrib.org but it seems to be down
[08:33] <soundray> Metaj: this may not be what you want to hear, but I think the best camera is a cheap old camcorder attached to a TV card.
[08:33] <pettern> Does anyone here use SmartPM with Dapper? experienced any bugs?
[08:33] <njal> ivx: No, it is simply the first step
[08:34] <njal> ivx: You will also need networkmanager
[08:34] <dabaR> gh0st: I can only see it being a problem with your code, unless I see your code, though.
[08:34] <ivx> njal alright i am installing that now
[08:34] <ivx> njal alright i'll install network manager
[08:34] <gh0st> dabaR: well where could i paste it?
[08:34] <RevThwack> metaj: newer digital camcorders with a firewire card work well too, but can be a little tougher to set up.
[08:34] <dabaR> gh0st: paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:34] <samuel__> aim trying to install nvidia driver i follow the instructions but somthing still dont work... plz look @http://pastebin.it/index.php?id=2177 its my xorg error log...
[08:34] <soundray> RevThwack: as a webcam?
[08:35] <gh0st> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28290/
[08:35] <Metaj> OK I have no TV Card and I have a camcoder Sony dcr-hc19e
[08:35] <RevThwack> soundray: yep.
[08:35] <xxjmakxx> I have a question relating to installation of Xubuntu on a Sony picturebook.
[08:35] <|CADE|> need help with xorg stuff: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284316
[08:35] <dabaR> gh0st: and the error you get?
[08:35] <Metaj> Can I use my camcoder as a webcam?
[08:35] <Lattyware> Could someone please help me with two problems?: 1) My DNS server settings are lost at boot. (Static IP) 2) My Audio sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.
[08:35] <berkes> RevThwack: not really. I am looking where I can increase that, but so far w/o luck.
[08:35] <soundray> RevThwack: cool. Have you written a HowTo? :)
[08:35] <jmitchj> dabaR: All i ever get in No suitable AP found
[08:35] <RevThwack> soundray: need to. heh.
[08:35] <xxjmakxx> It seems that if I initiate setup it'll stop  at "can't access tty; job control tunred off" on the sony memorystick slot.
[08:36] <gh0st> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28291/
[08:36] <dabaR> jmitchj: cause it seems there is no proper driver for the device.
[08:36] <xxjmakxx> So how do I bypass it?
[08:36] <xxjmakxx> Or disable the device?
[08:36] <njal> ivx: type this in the terminal 'wget http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb'
[08:36] <jmitchj> dabaR: I guess i better stick with Windows...
[08:36] <dabaR> gh0st: and where do you open the brace for main?
[08:36] <samuel__> aim trying to install nvidia driver i follow the instructions but somthing still dont work... plz look @http://pastebin.it/index.php?id=2177 its my xorg error log...
[08:36] <johnt> Hi all Please can soe one tell me how to change the default langauge in OOo?
[08:36] <dabaR> jmitchj: perhaps if you need this right away.
[08:36] <gh0st> dabaR: how do you mean?
[08:37] <justthisguy> Lattyware: 1) you might have a dynamic /etc/resolv.conf, try looking for the manpage on it and that might help; 2) a common problem is your mixers might be getting reset and you need to turn them all back up;
[08:37] <dabaR> gh0st: go see inyour code
[08:37] <gh0st> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28290/
[08:37] <dabaR> gh0st: count the braces
[08:37] <soundray> Metaj: that camera has i.Link (=firewire), so yes, it should work if you have a firewire interface on your computer.
[08:37] <Lattyware> justthisguy: 1) Nope, checked that. 2) Nope, checked that aswell.
[08:37] <jmitchj> dabaR: ??
[08:38] <RevThwack> johnt: tools/options/language settings/languages
[08:38] <dabaR> jmitchj: well, if you need the wireless to work right now, go use an OS that does it. If you feel like you would like to learn how to use ubuntu, come back later.
[08:38] <dabaR> jmitchj: someone may know how to fix it, and have the time to help you.
[08:38] <bokey> jmitchj, what's your problem ?
[08:38] <ivx> njal alright did all that so far
[08:38] <jmitchj> dabaR: no prob...i've only been at this 3 weeks
[08:38] <dabaR> gh0st: you are missing an opening brace for the main method in other words.
[08:38] <frederick85> !nm-applet
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm-applet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <Metaj> HEEEE.... Its a laptop and there is no firewire on it ....just usb .s
[08:38] <dabaR> jmitchj: I understand.
[08:38] <njal> ivx: install the deb you just downloaded
[08:39] <frederick85> !wiki
[08:39] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
 It only changes the setting for one document then goes back to original setting
[08:39] <xxjmakxx> So.. how do I bypass this little hurdle on trying to install linux?
[08:39] <walkover> i try to find a algebraric calculator. Someone said that octave is good, but its giving me a lot of trouble when i try to install it. Is it worth fighting for or are there good alternatives?
[08:39] <njal> ivx: it's supposed to contain the firmware and copy it into /lib/firmware
[08:39] <soundray> Metaj: a firewire pcmcia card costs about 10 EUR / $12
[08:39] <gh0st> dabaR: ok i corrected it, but now i have a problem with java: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: main
[08:39] <jmitchj> bokey: trying to get my wireless to work....but i'm new to both ubuntu and wireless...so very frustrating
[08:39] <eXistenZ> How many hours to the final release? :)
[08:40] <ivx> njal  where did it download that deb to?
[08:40] <Shamurai> private
[08:40] <justthisguy> !w32codecs
[08:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:40] <dabaR> gh0st: always post the code and the error output when debugging java programs on IRC.
[08:40] <B-Minus> is there some command to safely remove all 'mess' from my system ?
[08:40] <B-Minus> like broken links etc
 It only changes the setting for one document then goes back to original setting
[08:40] <njal> ivx: your home directory
[08:40] <gh0st> dabaR: i just posted it
[08:40] <justthisguy> hmm ... thats what I looked at, but I can't get to freecontrib.org ...
[08:40] <njal> !bedorphan
[08:40] <ninnghizidha> Why do aptitude wants to install 52 (380MB) of packages at the keyword "eclipse" when apt-get wants to install just  30 (120 MB) on the same keyword?!
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bedorphan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <CarinArr> gh0st, you're trying to run a java program that doesn't have a main method
[08:40] <njal> !deborphan
[08:40] <ubotu> deborphan is a program used to clean up packages that are no longer needed (install from Synaptic/Adept).
 I even tried gksudo but the same thing happens
[08:40] <dabaR> bokey: don't know whether you care, but see http://www.tonyyarusso.is-a-geek.com/ubuntu.html
[08:40] <Metaj> but Soundray do you have a link or something that tells me which webcams will work direktly without needin to make it so compecated
[08:40] <samuel__> anyone who could help me with the nvidia error?
[08:40] <CarinArr> gh0st, you could be trying to run it using the wrong class
[08:41] <gh0st> CarinArr: what can i do?
[08:41] <xxjmakxx> debaR: any advice?
[08:41] <xxjmakxx> Suggestions?
[08:41] <Lattyware> justthisguy: 1) Nope, checked that. 2) Nope, checked that aswell.
[08:41] <CarinArr> gh0st, is this your code or someone elses code?
[08:41] <Lattyware> whoops
[08:41] <Lattyware> wrong paste :/
[08:41] <Lattyware> Could someone please help me with two problems?: 1) My DNS server settings are lost at boot. (Static IP) 2) My Audio sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.
[08:41] <Metaj> I will bye one if someone can tell me a camera modell thet works directly on ubuntu 6.0.6 64bit
[08:41] <user-land> existenz, what are you looking forward to ?
[08:41] <gh0st> CarinArr: someone else's (univ)
[08:41] <dabaR> gh0st: give me a link, please.
[08:41] <eXistenZ> user-land, edgy final release :)
[08:42] <soundray> Metaj: no, sorry. The thing is, manufacturers often change camera internals without changing the model name/number. That makes it next to impossible to maintain a compatibility list.
[08:42] <user-land> yes, what feature ?
[08:42] <CarinArr> gh0st, s it a collection of classes or is it a jar file
[08:42] <eXistenZ> user-land, the whole new sensation
[08:42] <dabaR> CarinArr: it is hello world
[08:42] <ndis> How do i install Firefox2 on my ubuntu 6.06, synaptic shows as 1.5.
[08:42] <CarinArr> er lol
[08:42] <eXistenZ> including vim7
[08:42] <CarinArr> ah
[08:42] <bokey> jmitchj, what's your wireless card ?
[08:42] <ivx> njal alright i installed that
[08:42] <Metaj> I see ....... OK
[08:42] <RevThwack> johnt: what settings under languages are you adjusting?
[08:42] <Siph0n> i do a find for a file, and it says its in /lib/modules/<kernel>/net/wireless/mrv8k directory, but in my net directory, i dont see a wireless directory... any ideas? :)
[08:42] <CarinArr> then yeah. show him the code, cause then it's probably just a typo;)
 I even tried gksudo but the same thing happens
[08:43] <gh0st> CarinArr: i had to make a HelloWorld.java with following code: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28295/ then compile it with javac HelloWorld.java
[08:43] <Metaj> TNX ALOT SOUNDRAY
[08:43] <hangfire> ndis- you have to port the code yourself or wait for the repo maintainers to do it
[08:43] <dabaR> Seveas: ping
[08:43] <gh0st> CarinArr: then run "java HelloWorld"
[08:43] <jmitchj> bokey: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[08:43] <sharperguy> gh0st: sudo apt-get install hello
[08:43] <Seveas> dabaR, pong
[08:43] <Metaj> NICE TRY
 I want to change the langauge to eng uk for the dictionary to work
[08:43] <CarinArr> gh0st, you don't have a main method, every program needs at least one main method
[08:43] <Seveas> Metaj, drop the caps
[08:43] <bokey> jmitchj, for now, does ubuntu detect your card ?
[08:43] <gh0st> CarinArr: sorry i don't understand?
[08:43] <soundray> Metaj: your welcome. I'd be much happier if I had actually helped you... ;)
[08:43] <user-land> vim7, existenz ? a text editor ?
[08:43] <dabaR> gh0st: to run a java program on its own, it has to have a main method...
[08:44] <njal> ivx: Now i would reboot, to ensure the firmware and such as been detected etc etc, keep the ethernet pluged in and log back here when it's rebooted and give me a shout
[08:44] <berkes> what is the command to find the kernel version again?
[08:44] <ndis> hangfire,  can't i add the ftp site (mozilla), and it's .tar.gz in /etc/apt/sources.list , then apt-get update ?
[08:44] <soundray> berkes: uname -r
[08:44] <dabaR> Seveas: what hapenned to the search functionality of the pastebin?
[08:44] <RevThwack> johnt: under the languages option page, what are you adjusting?
[08:44] <CarinArr> gh0st, that will compile, but it won't run.. are you sure there isn't a further step to whatever tutorial you're following/
[08:44] <awk> hi is there any grsecurity patched kernels on ubuntu, or does one have to download source and add the patch and compile that way?
[08:44] <berkes> thanks soundray
[08:44] <ivx> njal alright thanks
[08:44] <dabaR> and the recent posts as well, Seveas
[08:44] <bokey> dabaR, nice http://www.tonyyarusso.is-a-geek.com/ubuntu.html :)
[08:44] <jmitchj> bokey: using which command?
 I wonder if there is a script you give me or a sudo command so i can do it in the terminal
[08:44] <Seveas> dabaR, gone 
[08:44] <bokey> jmitchj, you using breezy ?
[08:44] <dabaR> how do you make a smiley like that?
[08:44] <jmitchj> bokey: dapper
[08:45] <dabaR> Seveas: why, can we get them back?
[08:45] <CarinArr> anyhow.. dinner bbiab
[08:45] <bokey> jmitchj, ok. iwconfig lists anything ?
[08:45] <Seveas> dabaR, if I have another freehour
[08:45] <gh0st> there's step like editing: the /etc/profile, what's that exactly?
[08:45] <jmitchj> bokey: on 64bit installation
[08:45] <Siph0n> could the wireless directory be hidden or sometin? and if so how do i access it? :)
[08:45] <hangfire> ndis- you kind of got me there, I dont know much about the particulars of porting to ubuntu, but I think that .tar.gz is just pure source and not something the readily converts to ubuntu
[08:45] <RevThwack> johnt: don't have one. best place to change this is from within OO.o itself. the config for default document languages, local settings, and user interface are all in there.
[08:45] <dabaR> Seveas: OK, not really mandatory anyhow, it would be nice to have, so you can put that in your requirements matrix;)
 The default langauge is eng nz i want it to be eng uk
[08:45] <jmitchj> bokey: yes it does
[08:45] <bokey> jmitchj, what does it list ?
[08:46] <RevThwack> johnt: default system language is eng nz?
[08:46] <jmitchj> bokey: you mean the devices?
[08:46] <bokey> jmitchj, lists your wireless access point and all other crap ?
[08:46] <gh0st> CarinArr, dabaR: there's step like editing: the /etc/profile, what's that exactly?
[08:46] <jmitchj> bokey: yes
[08:46] <bokey> jmitchj, like eth1: blah blah..
[08:46] <rbil> !nfs
[08:46] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
 Yes I have been there but it will only do the doc you are working on
[08:46] <jmitchj> bokey: but says Access Point: Invalid
[08:46] <moquist> kmaynard: I needed megaraid_sas in /etc/modules, and then to rebuild the initrd (of course).
 Yes for nz
[08:47] <bokey> that means your access point is sending beacon frames.
[08:47] <uFo-Z> hi all. i have realy big problems. i am ubuntu user since 5.04. atm i use 6.06.1. i compiled the game wormux. it was source files. i used configure,make and checkinstall. during checkinstall i got some premission errors. and suddenly alto of my icons where gone.
[08:47] <xxjmakxx> Is there anyway to start a liveCD with a windows 98 boot disk? This system cannot boot from CD.
[08:47] <bokey> jmitchj, that means your access point is sending beacon frames.
[08:47] <gh0st> CarinArr, dabaR: as following: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28296/
[08:47] <RevThwack> johnt: go system/administration/language support. change it there.
[08:47] <jmitchj> bokey: that's over my head
[08:47] <uFo-Z> now, if i reboot my system it tells me that it cannot chantge to my home directgory
[08:47] <bokey> jmitchj, tried sudo dhclient3 ethX (where x is your listing of wirless device from iwconfig).
[08:47] <uFo-Z> and, if i try to login as root (there is no X anymorre, cause gdm and x wont start also) it says that my pw is wrong
 OK thank you
[08:48] <ivx> njal it works! thank you
[08:48] <dabaR> gh0st: why do you think you need to do that?
[08:48] <bokey> jmitchj, make sure no firewall is running.
[08:48] <ndis> hangfire,  have you installed Firefox 2?
[08:48] <njal> ivx: It does? Oh ok, I thought there might have been a little more to it, perhaps it's just my laptop then, well glad i could help
[08:48] <uFo-Z> after i chmoded my hdd(the files are still there)  i used passwd to change my root pw. it worked. but after reboot still saying that pw is wrong
[08:48] <gh0st> dabaR: ? that's the problem, but i think it has something to do with the right paths
[08:48] <jmitchj> bokey: i have no firewall in ubuntu
[08:48] <hangfire> no, Im satisfied with 1.5 and I dont like the idea of changing the layout
[08:48] <jmitchj> bokey: what am i looking for from that command?
[08:48] <bokey> jmitchj, sudo iptables -F says ?
[08:49] <dabaR> to get your code to work, compile thishttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28297/
[08:49] <bokey> jmitchj, do it.
[08:49] <calamari> hi
[08:49] <totall_6_7> uFo-Z: I do not have an answer for ya, but if you were using windows i would say you have a virus, but your not so i wont say it
[08:49] <dabaR> gh0st: your javac works fine
[08:49] <awk> hello, does ubuntu realease a kernel wih grsecurity patch installed
[08:49] <gh0st> dabaR: please help, as i don't want to use windows
[08:49] <awk> or do I have to use kernel from kernel.org
[08:49] <jmitchj> bokey: done
[08:49] <njal> ivx: The package you installed is in it's own repo
[08:49] <uFo-Z> totall_6_7, i also think that it could be a virus. but i dont beleve
[08:49] <dabaR> gh0st: sure, I am here to help, but the javac is fine, your java coding is rusty
[08:49] <njal> ivx: And is updated sometimes
[08:49] <calamari> what are my username and password for the cups webpages?  http://127.0.0.1:631
[08:49] <bokey> jmitchj, what does both the command output ?
[08:50] <bokey> jmitchj, just tell me what it says.
[08:50] <njal> ivx: If you want i can point you to instructions to have it updated
[08:50] <gh0st> dabaR: of course it is as it's my first time EVER
[08:50] <gh0st> dabaR: what should i do now?
[08:51] <dabaR> gh0st: ya, well, you are still trying to compile a hello world? This version is correct : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28297/
[08:51] <bokey> jmitchj, hello ?
[08:51] <gh0st> dabaR: yes, but i still get the error when running it
[08:51] <dabaR> name the file HelloWorld.java
[08:51] <jmitchj> bokey: there was no reesponse to second command...first command did a bunch of DHCPDISCOVER and then says No DHCPOFFERS received and No working leases in persistent database - sleepin.
[08:51] <gh0st> what do you have in /etc/profile
[08:51] <dabaR> nothing
[08:52] <gh0st> what do you have in /etc/profiles
[08:52] <dabaR> gh0st: don't worry about the javac anymore, it works fine
[08:52] <bokey> jmitchj, the first command was trying to get lease from the dhcp server from your wireless access point.
[08:52] <dabaR> your code is not correct semantically, though.
[08:52] <gh0st> dabaR: what do you have in /etc/profile?
[08:52] <dabaR> gh0st: create a HelloWorld.java file, add http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28297/ into it, compile, then run it.
[08:52] <dabaR> gh0st: I do not have that file
[08:52] <bokey> bokey, what does "sudo ifdown eth1" do ?
[08:53] <gh0st> dabaR: i did that
[08:53] <NooZ> hi mates! is edgy going out this night?
[08:53] <Metaj> soundray are you steel there
[08:53] <don-o> ive switched to edgy, but dist-upgrade shows "the following packages have been kept back" and there are 20 or so python packages listed there. any ideas why that is?
[08:53] <dabaR> gh0st: post the file, and error to pastebin, show me a link to it
[08:53] <bokey> NooZ, did you wake up to get Edgy ?
[08:53] <calamari> what are my username and password for the cups webpages?  http://127.0.0.1:631
[08:53] <Siph0n> what does it mean if i find says there is a directory, but i try to go to the directory and it doesnt exist it says? :)
[08:53] <don-o> Siph0n: id say you're starting from the wrong directory
[08:53] <jmitchj> bokey: Listening on LPF/eth1/00:90:4b:f7:62:ab
[08:53] <jmitchj> Sending on   LPF/eth1/00:90:4b:f7:62:ab
[08:53] <jmitchj> Sending on   Socket/fallback
[08:53] <NooZ> i've problem's installing the dapper on my sata hdd, think i'm gonna wait if edgy goes out today
[08:53] <gh0st> dabaR: that's the error: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: main
[08:53] <igcek> hello, how to change wine to work in win95?
[08:54] <igcek> mode
[08:54] <ndis> How do i execute .sh file?
[08:54] <wcarter> NooZ: edgy comes out on the 26th
[08:54] <gh0st> dabaR: otherwise i used the corrected code without error compiling
[08:54] <dabaR> gh0st: no, then your file looks different from mine
[08:54] <don-o> ndis: sh filename.sh
[08:54] <bokey> jmitchj, so it finally says DHCP release .... ?
[08:54] <dabaR> gh0st: in this case, the compiler just checks the syntax, not the semantics. just make sure you rename your method to main
[08:54] <njal> I really need help with overwriting the windows bootloader
[08:54] <ndis> don-o, filename.sh: Cannot execute .
[08:55] <NooZ> wcarter: tomorrow :)
[08:55] <Siph0n> don-o: but i copy and paste... and all the other directorys are right....
[08:55] <njal> I have tried everything i can think of
[08:55] <dabaR> ndis: ./filename.sh
[08:55] <njal> it just wont die
[08:55] <Metaj> What about a webcam with microfon that gives my this problem: The camera microfon becomes the default soundcard on my system
[08:55] <Metaj> How can I solve this
[08:55] <ndis> dabaR,  filename.sh: Cannot execute .  -- same error
[08:55] <don-o> ndis: then its probably not a shell script. look at the first couple of lines.
[08:55] <jmitchj> bokey: no it doesn;t say that
 I just went through all the menu I can find and did not see sys admin
[08:55] <dabaR> ndis: chown +x file.sh
[08:56] <dabaR> ndis: is the file called filename?
[08:56] <gh0st> dabaR: it DID WORKED using normal terminal (ctrl+alt+F")
[08:56] <don-o> dabaR: if the filename were wrong ,the error would be "sh: Can't open filename.sh"
[08:56] <gh0st> dabaR: it DID WORKED using normal terminal (ctrl+alt+F2)
[08:56] <ndis> echo "Usage:  ${cmdname} [options]  [program] "
[08:56] <ndis> echo ""
[08:56] <calamari> nobody knows I guess :(
[08:56] <jmitchj> bokey: when i did that command again...it says ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
[08:56] <dabaR> gh0st: good
[08:56] <gh0st> dabaR: but what with the gnome terminal?
[08:56] <Siph0n> don-o: my bad, i found my mistake:)
[08:57] <dabaR> gh0st: it should work
[08:57] <don-o> ndis: are you giving it any arguments? sh filename.sh something_goes_here
[08:57] <dabaR> gh0st: you just forgot to compile the file again, or something
[08:57] <gh0st> dabaR: no it still doesn't work there
[08:57] <ndis> don-o, im giving it without argument, do i have to give any argument?
[08:57] <gh0st> dabaR: the SAME file works in one terminal but not in the other
[08:57] <igcek> j/wine
[08:57] <bokey> jmitchj, is it eth1 or eth0 for you ?
[08:58] <dave_> anyone have any problems with amarok? was working fine earlier and then out of nowhere it just broke, tried reinstall, tried complete removal , i type amarok into term and it just sits there no error msg or anything
[08:58] <jmitchj> bokey: eth1
[08:58] <dabaR> gh0st: close reopen the terminal
[08:58] <cappiz> how can make saslauthd run as specified user?
 I found it   sorry to be dense!!!
[08:58] <bokey> jmitchj, and are you sure this is the wireless device ?
[08:58] <jmitchj> bokey: it says so
[08:58] <don-o> ndis: sounds like you need to find out more about the program you're trying to run.
[08:58] <hangfire> davaR- since were talking about java, I get a "javac cannot find command" when I enter javac into the console. It worked before, I know I have it set up to the sun jde, do you know what could be wrong?
[08:59] <gh0st> dabaR: it did work now!? wth was going on!!??
[08:59] <|Matt|> Heya, how much hard-disk space does Ubuntu actually need?
[08:59] <don-o> ndis: perhaps "sh filename.sh -h" would help
[08:59] <dabaR> gh0st: cause the terminal did not reload your /etc/profile settings you changed.
[08:59] <don-o> |Matt|: im using 8.5GB right now, with a bunch of extra apps installed.
[08:59] <rc-1> just installed ubuntu, and WOW am i impressed, this is SO much more customizible and practical than windows :))))))
[09:00] <jmitchj> bokey: i'm using ndiswrapper 1.27...is that ok?
[09:00] <dabaR> hangfire: is the sun-java5-jdk package installed?
[09:00] <gh0st> dabaR: what should i exactly write in this file?
[09:00] <ndis> don-o, cannot execute -h , is it cause , im running bash?
[09:00] <hangfire> yes, and I ran the config script so it would use it as default
[09:00] <|Matt|> Thanks and how much does it need when just installed?
[09:00] <dabaR> gh0st: which file the profile one? I don't have anything java related in it, and since it works, don't fix it
[09:00] <njal> on a system with a sata drive and two ide's with windows on the slave IDE WHY will ubuntu NOT overwrite the windows bootloader?
[09:00] <dabaR> hangfire: and which javac shows nothing?
[09:00] <don-o> ndis: sorry im out of time for this problem.
[09:00] <jmitchj> bokey: and i've tried 4 different drivers this afternoon
[09:00] <gh0st> dabaR: it looks like this (/etc/profile): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28298/
 All done thank you REV!!!
[09:01] <bokey> jmitchj, your problem seems little different.what's your car make again. sorry ?
[09:01] <gh0st> dabaR: any error?
[09:01] <hangfire> davaR-I just get a javac- command not found error when I enter javac into the console
[09:01] <NooZ> edgy's gonna be nice on instalation on laptop sata disc? :)
[09:01] <jmitchj> bokey: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[09:01] <dabaR> gh0st: looks reasonable, and since it works, don't fix
[09:01] <kingace> hello, i just rebooted my machine and all of the sudden I can only play mp3s in totem
[09:02] <|Matt|> how much does Ubuntu need when just installed?
[09:02] <gh0st> dabaR: could it be because i used the gedit syntax highlight
[09:02] <dabaR> gh0st: what are you asking?
[09:02] <dave_> reboot again and it will allow you to travel through time
[09:02] <gh0st> dabaR: could the errors be because i used the gedit syntax highlight and it did not work, but without it did!'
[09:02] <njal> I need help overwriting the windows bootloader
[09:03] <dabaR> hangfire: post output of sudo dpkg -L sun-java5-jdk to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:03] <dabaR> gh0st: maybe I don't know, but it works now, so I dont really care why it did not work
[09:03] <hangfire> davaR-k
[09:03] <dabaR> !nicktab
[09:03] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[09:03] <anon32> njal: um... why? you need the windows bootloader to start Windows (in grub, this is called chainbooting)
[09:04] <anon32> chainloading*
[09:04] <njal> anon32: Yes, but i want grub as the default bootloader on account of me having 4 OS on the one machines
[09:04] <njal> -s
[09:04] <bokey> jmitchj, I have got to go. it's late nite here. but I definitely think this guide will help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[09:05] <dabaR> bokey: see ya:)
[09:05] <anon32> njal: install grub on the boot disk
[09:05] <mkay_ubunux> tommorrow is edgy release... :-)
[09:05] <bokey> dabaR, see ya bro. :)
[09:05] <njal> anon32: I have tried
[09:05] <anon32> then set it as first bootable disk in your BIOS
[09:05] <hangfire> dabaR-http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28301/
[09:05] <njal> anon32: Many times, grub does not want to work.
[09:05] <jmitchj> bokey: thanks
[09:05] <dabaR> hangfire: post output of "sudo dpkg -L sun-java5-jdk" to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:05] <bokey> jmitchj, no probs.
[09:06] <hangfire> dabaR-k
[09:06] <anon32> !dualboot
[09:06] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[09:06] <anon32> maybe that'll help
[09:06] <njal> anon32: I think perhaps it is that i want ubuntu to reside on a sata drive, but it worked before...
[09:06] <whiz2> what thegatekeeper does't realize is that even with following the instructins he gave me yesterday, my results were exactly the same
[09:07] <hangfire> dabaR- youre right, its not installed, now I got to go look for it in the repos
[09:08] <dabaR> it is in multiverse.
[09:08] <dabaR> hangfire: heh
[09:08] <Styles> anybody good with ipw2200 and wireless??? Can you take a look at this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1662223&postcount=645  and this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1662404&postcount=646 or the pastbin here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28300/ I'm looking for things to try because I'm fresh out of ideas
[09:08] <hangfire> ok, thx bigtime dabaR
[09:08] <dabaR> You're welcome
[09:09] <mhamadt> question : howto copy all file include subfolder to other folder (example /public_html/home/* /public_html/home2) ( at /home it have 3 subfolder and other file in each subfolder )
[09:09] <Qaldune> hi
[09:09] <Qaldune> does anyone know what's the right address for plf repositories?
[09:09] <Qaldune> packages.freecontrib.org seems to be offline
[09:09] <dabaR> mhamadt: the command is cp, and the recursive(include subdirs) option is -r
[09:10] <dabaR> Qaldune: ask google
[09:10] <Qaldune> are u having trouble with that too?
[09:10] <mhamadt> ok
[09:10] <Qaldune> dabaR i know the address and that all but i wan to know if someone is having the same problem i am
[09:10] <dabaR> Qaldune: go read the first link that google specifies
[09:11] <Qaldune> dabaR i have
[09:11] <Qaldune> i know the address...
[09:11] <dabaR> then you must have read http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28297/
[09:11] <dabaR> heh
[09:11] <dabaR> PLF ubuntu shutting down
[09:11] <dabaR> The PLF Ubuntu project is shutting down, due to lack of time of its maintainers. New volonteers are welcome.
[09:11] <petri_l> Anyone have an idea to why my stationary computor won't let my laptop out on the internet. The stationary is acting a sa router. The laptop is given an ip address. and I can ping the stationary
[09:11] <dabaR> it is the first thing on their home page
[09:11] <Qaldune> that wasn't the first link i got...
[09:11] <Qaldune> ok
[09:11] <Qaldune> sorry anyway
[09:11] <dabaR> Qaldune: no need to be sorry, I am hjust being a jerk for fun
[09:12] <Qaldune> that link whas shit man
[09:12] <Qaldune> was
[09:12] <dabaR> petri_l: what program do you have installed for this connection sharing?
[09:12] <dabaR> Qaldune: the pastebin one was:)
[09:12] <johnt> Can anyone help me with my graphics
[09:12] <johnt> card please
[09:12] <dabaR> Qaldune: miscopied:) http://plf.zarb.org/
[09:12] <samuel__> need help with the installation of grafik card...(nvidia..)
[09:13] <dabaR> johnt: by giving you some money for the new one or what?
[09:13] <samuel__> it dont work...
[09:13] <petri_l> dabaR : umm ipmasq and dnsmasq
[09:13] <Qaldune> ohhh it's shitty it works only for mandriva,...
[09:13] <Qaldune> samuel_
[09:14] <Qaldune> have u installed nvidia drivers with synaptic?
[09:14] <samuel__> yes_
[09:14] <samuel__> ?
[09:14] <LjL> !language | Qaldune
[09:14] <ubotu> Qaldune: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:14] <topping> howdy i'm booting with the livecd, but one of my software raids is apparently being mounted twice by evms.  is there a way to stop that?
[09:14] <Qaldune> sorry
[09:14] <samuel__> Qaldune i installed it with apt-get... like in the howto
[09:14] <samuel__> Qaldune http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Breezy
[09:14] <Qaldune> are u using breezy??
[09:14] <anon32> topping: yea, get a hardware raid
[09:15] <dabaR> petri_l: cool, that is what I use. hmm...you can ping the PC...how about pinging by IP addresses to the Internet? 164.109.28.3 is an US ISP home page address.
 No I have money I want to make it work better it is a SiS 670 and is reporting a massive 4-5fps on graphics type games I would like to know if a bit more speed is available
[09:15] <samuel__> Qaldune yes iam...
[09:15] <topping> anon32: thanks, not an option
[09:15] <Qaldune> why don't you get dapper instead of breezy??
[09:15] <njal> Is it possible to install install grub to the hard drive windows is installed on?
[09:15] <Qaldune> it think it'd be better..
[09:15] <Qaldune> anyway
[09:15] <Alakazamz0r> yay
[09:15] <dabaR> johnt: so your question is whether there is more speed available for the SiS 670 graphics card in some way?
[09:15] <anon32> topping: why? software raid is like software graphics
[09:15] <topping> anyone else have an idea how to stop evms?
[09:15] <samuel__> Qaldune well... iam soon will go over to vectorlinux again.. :/
[09:15] <Alakazamz0r> im now the sysadmin for linuxforums.org
[09:16] <Alakazamz0r> :D
[09:16] <Qaldune> try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and see if you get your graphic card recognized
 Yes
[09:16] <topping> anon32: i have 1.5TB of data i need to get off there first
[09:16] <anon32> njal: yes?
[09:16] <anto9us> topping, have you tried unmounting the second container?
[09:16] <dabaR> topping: stop evms? you sure that is a good idea? I would try sudo invoke-rc.d evms stop if I was sure that is not gonna shut down my computer.
[09:16] <topping> anto9us: how would I do that
[09:16] <njal> anon32: How then, it's the only solution i can see to my problem
[09:16] <anon32> topping: you shoulda backed up?
[09:17] <dabaR> johnt: no idea, but ask your question again, maybe someone can answer that.
[09:17] <johnt> OK
[09:17] <topping> anto9us: i did a 'df', didn't see a mount
[09:17] <Qaldune> well samuel_ as you can see ubuntu is not as easy as they tell you
[09:17] <jhujhiti_> I have a synaptics touchpad that was working fine until I booted the laptop today. Now it acts like I'm always holding the left button down. I tried turning the LockedDrags on and off, with no effect. What else could be up?
[09:17] <anto9us> topping, so you're seeing an md0 and md1 both comprising the same raid partitions?
[09:17] <anon32> njal: you install grub over the mbr and set it to chainload your windows partition
[09:18] <leafw> has anyone successfully swapped the command and control keys in ubuntu? It's dead easy in kubuntu, but there is no such option in the Keyboard entry for the gnome desktop.
[09:18] <topping> anto9us: yes (it's actually md2 and md3)
[09:18] <johnt> I would like to kow if I am able to get more speed or direct rendering from my SiS 670 graphics card
[09:18] <samuel__> Qaldune its easyer then you got the updated version :D
[09:18] <njal> anon32: I know the theory, it's just not working in practice
[09:18] <Qaldune> it is
[09:18] <Qaldune> but i can tell you it wasn't easy for me to get my nvidia graphic card working fine
[09:18] <anto9us> topping, and you're sure they're comprised of the same partitions?
[09:18] <Qaldune> even with dapper
[09:18] <samuel__> Qaldune just whant to switch because it compiles faster...
[09:18] <topping> anto9us: yes
[09:19] <anon32> njal: dunno what I can say, pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[09:19] <Qaldune> you think dapper compiles faster?
[09:19] <anto9us> topping, evmsgui is a handy little tool
[09:19] <samuel__> Qaldune i have installed the driver lots of times... but this time i just wont work..
[09:19] <petri_l> dabaR : ping; sendmsq: Network is unreachable
[09:19] <Qaldune> have you taken a look at xorg.conf?
[09:19] <samuel__> Qaldune no i know that vectorlinux are faster
[09:19] <dabaR> petri_l: for that IP?
[09:19] <xxjmakxx> NO execuses! ;)
[09:19] <samuel__> Qaldune yeah,,,
[09:19] <njal> anon32: I CAN'T, it only boot XP, because I can't overwrite the windows bootloader
[09:19] <topping> anto9us: i tried mdadm -S /dev/md3... livecd doesn't have evmsgui, can i install that to my live boot?
[09:19] <samuel__> Qaldune btw it found my card... i have removed dri and glcore
[09:19] <petri_l> dabaR this is wierd the connection stops working
[09:20] <Qaldune> mmmm and dpkg-reconfigure didn't work?
[09:20] <anto9us> topping, yes, should work
[09:20] <xxjmakxx> Why won't SBM detect the CD-rom?
[09:20] <samuel__> Qaldune and changed nv to nvidia
[09:20] <dabaR> petri_l: fix that first
[09:20] <regebro> Hi all! Just installed NetworkMonitor for my new home Wifi. Supercool! But...
[09:20] <topping> anto9us: ok, i'll try that thanks
[09:20] <anon32> njal: manually install grub with the command "grub"
[09:20] <petri_l> dabaR : how?
[09:20] <Qaldune> samuel_ did dpkg do anything?
[09:20] <samuel__> Qaldune yes it work...
[09:20] <petri_l> dabaR : the laptop has NetworkManager installed if that affects anything
[09:20] <regebro> [OT]  Anybody know much about Wifi? My signal strength goes up and down between 30% and 85%. I suspect it's symptom of some sort of trouble.
[09:20] <samuel__> Qaldune configured the things that it wanted..
[09:21] <njal> anon32: Tried it, booted the live CD, ran sudo grub, and i needed to find what sda1 corrosponded to on my system
[09:21] <chuckp> Anyone :  How can I setup the PATH to make in .bash_profile?
[09:21] <anon32> njal: try mount -l
[09:21] <njal> anon32: unfortunatly no-one have been able to, or been willing to help me atm
[09:21] <johnt> I would like to know if I am able to get more speed or direct rendering from my SiS 670 graphics card please
[09:21] <Qaldune> samuel_ i guess you have restarted X server...
[09:21] <samuel__> Qaldune whant to see my error log?
[09:21] <njal> anon32: ok mount -l is something i have not yet tried
[09:22] <Qaldune> ok
[09:22] <samuel__> Qaldune yeah getting a few error so i need to switch back to nv driver...
[09:22] <anon32> njal: sda1 is probably your first partition on your SATA disk. Most likely the Windows partition
[09:22] <samuel__> Qaldune complains about not having the nvidia driver...
[09:22] <njal> anon32: No windows is on and ide device
 are you at the keys seth???
[09:22] <Qaldune> put the error log in query
[09:22] <anon32> wait... if you have an OEM PC, it might be a recovery partition
[09:22] <petri_l> dabaR : the laptops connection dies as soon I try to ping the address you gave me
[09:22] <dabaR> petri_l: well, check what is wrong on the PC...see whether you have an IP address first, I guess.
[09:22] <njal> anon32: I have 3 hard drives
[09:23] <njal> anon32: XP on the slave IDE
[09:23] <dabaR> petri_l: no it doesnt, it was not working to begin with
[09:23] <njal> anon32: Vista and gentoo on the Master IDE
[09:23] <anon32> njal: do you have anything on that sata drive? if not, it's most likely free space
[09:23] <njal> anon32: and ubuntu on the huge sata drive
[09:23] <njal> anon32: Yes I have a ubuntu install on the sata drive.
[09:23] <unimatrix9> yes make windows the slave!
[09:23] <unimatrix9> :)
[09:24] <samuel__> Qaldune http://pastebin.se/4185
[09:24] <|r466er|> hello
[09:24] <chuckp> hello
[09:24] <anon32> njal: wait, if you gentoo installed on the master IDE, shouldn't it also have grub? or did you install Vista second?
[09:24] <zhelezka> hi all
[09:24] <dabaR> !hi
[09:24] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:24] <|r466er|> www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4597 <-- does anybody know what to do? i cant unistnall eclipse and java
[09:24] <anon32> unimatrix9: and cause all sorts of shitty errors
 looks like I found a thousand people who do not know :-)
[09:24] <arc_> does anybody knows which is the font name of the ubuntu logo?
[09:24] <samuel__> Qaldune find anything?
[09:24] <njal> anon32: installed in order, xp, vista, gentoo, ubuntu because I KNOW windows can trash boot menus
[09:24] <unimatrix9> it was just the thought that i liked
[09:25] <njal> anon32: But i turn on my machine and it goes right into XP
[09:25] <zhelezka> please answer how can I log in into the shell, not in GNOME?
[09:25] <dabaR> |r466er|: what command did you use to uninstall those programs?
[09:25] <|r466er|> i tried with synaptic, with apt-get and with aptitude
[09:25] <Qaldune> samuel_ could you plz give the error you get in terminal when you run startx?
[09:25] <dabaR> zhelezka: alt+ctrl+f1, alt+f7 to get back
[09:25] <petri_l> dabaR : now it doesn't die and eys it gets an ip
[09:25] <chuckp> Anyone : I need to setup my PATH to the make command in .bash_profile
[09:25] <anon32> njal: what does your BIOS report your primary disk to be (the one that's booted)?
[09:26] <torchie> what is pam?
[09:26] <njal> anon32: Hold up while i find out
[09:26] <samuel__> Qaldune how can i gett it into a text fiel?
[09:26] <zhelezka> dabaR: thanks you
[09:26] <dabaR> petri_l: can the computer with dnsmasq and ipmasq browse the web?
[09:26] <samuel__> Qaldune file
[09:26] <Qaldune> is the error message very long?
[09:26] <dabaR> zhelezka: welcomes you
[09:26] <zhelezka> :)
[09:26] <petri_l> dabaR : yes since I am using it to talk in this channel =D
[09:26] <johnt> I would like to know if I am able to get more speed or direct rendering from my SiS 670 graphics card please
[09:26] <Qaldune> copy by hand or try startx 2> error.log
[09:26] <njal> anon32: Hard disk
[09:26] <Qaldune> or startx > error.log
[09:27] <dabaR> petri_l: and how about pinging that IP address? lost packets?
[09:27] <zhelezka> I know Ctrl+Alt+Fx, but didn't know Alt+F7 :)
[09:27] <samuel__> Qaldune hmm... as i remember it tells me that it just cant find the driver ...
[09:27] <dabaR> zhelezka: you asked the wrong question then
[09:27] <njal> anon32: Wish it said more than that
[09:27] <Qaldune> are u sure the pci address in xorg.conf is the right one?
[09:27] <anon32> njal: which one? your BIOS should have a list of devices
[09:27] <samuel__> Qaldune know anyway to se that?
[09:27] <njal> anon32: Nope, it simply say's Hard Disk
[09:28] <dabaR> zhelezka: but you got an answer...
[09:28] <chuckp> I need to use make
[09:28] <walkover> anyonne know a calculator for linux? has to be able to solve equations etc..
[09:28] <Qaldune> samuel_ wait a sec
[09:28] <walkover> and solve them algebraric
[09:28] <samuel__> Qaldune k
[09:28] <dabaR> walkover: sudo aptitude search calc
[09:28] <petri_l> dabaR : 100 % package loss from this computor also
[09:28] <dabaR> chuckp: and?
[09:28] <anon32> njal: does it present an editable boot order?
[09:28] <walkover> oh yeah thanks i didt try that
[09:28] <walkover> of course i did....
[09:28] <chuckp> and I need it in .bash_profile, the path setup
[09:28] <Qaldune> samuel_ run lspci
[09:28] <johnt> Is anyone able to help me get a sis 670 graphics card working better please???
[09:28] <dabaR> petri_l: what is the IP address, and you are sure you can ping the dnsmasq+ipmasq conmputer?
[09:29] <anon32> walkover: TiEmu/TilEm can emulate Texas Instruments calculators
[09:29] <dabaR> chuckp: you would like to know how to get make?
[09:29] <samuel__> Qaldune ok where should i put this..?
[09:29] <chuckp> I need the path setup
[09:29] <walkover> ok thanks
[09:29] <njal> anon32: No, but it does allow me to choose with drive i can boot if i press esc at boot, thus far the SATA drive will not boot, but I think i might know why that is
[09:29] <walkover> ill try that
[09:29] <zhelezka> dabaR: why wrong?
[09:29] <petri_l> dabaR : aah you mean ping the router compu not the ip you gave me =)
[09:29] <dabaR> zhelezka: never mind
[09:29] <Qaldune> samuel_ ok you've the graphic card address now open xorg.conf and look for field "Device"
[09:29] <dabaR> petri_l: yes.
[09:29] <zhelezka> :)
[09:29] <chuckp> when I do man make, it says its not on the system
[09:30] <anon32> njal: why?
[09:30] <petri_l> dabaR : ping form laptop to this compu works fine
[09:30] <dabaR> chuckp: so ya, you want to get make. sudo aptitude install build-essential
[09:30] <anon32> *god* that is a horrible BIOS - even DELL doesn't make em that bad
[09:30] <chuckp> awesome, thanks!
[09:30] <dabaR> petri_l: hm...and you are sure ipmasq is started? sudo invoke-rc.d ipmasq start
[09:30] <jwl007> meh, my laptops bios is worse :D
[09:30] <njal> anon32: Ok maybe not why I though, ok i have gotten into my bios boot menu and got to the gentoo grub and i can boot ubuntu from there
[09:30] <mak> wow, ati xgl beryl 6.10
[09:30] <mak> and working
[09:31] <samuel__> Qaldune 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4200]  (rev a3)
[09:31] <njal> anon32: But that does not solve the needing to boot it by default
[09:31] <samuel__> Qaldune 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[09:31] <Qaldune> mmmmm i'm afraid about that man
[09:31] <Qaldune> what i told you worked 4 me
[09:31] <Qaldune> but i don't know anything else to do
[09:31] <Qaldune> sorry :(
[09:31] <njal> anon32: However it was a fresh install of 5.10 since it was the only disc i had at hand so it'll take a lil while before i can reboot
[09:31] <dabaR> njal: read the /boot/grub/menu.lst equivalent in gentoo, and you will know how to make default boot system be what you want it to be
[09:31] <samuel__> Qaldune ok :/
[09:31] <anon32> njal: yea... methinks your BIOS is screwed up. Are there alternatives that you can flash over it?
[09:32] <petri_l> petri@burken:~$ sudo invoke-rc.d ipmasq startPassword:Initializing IP Masquerading...done.
[09:32] <njal> anon32: My bios isn't screwed, it's just a fancy bios with lots of features but the developers overlooked the little details
[09:32] <samuel__> Qaldune so you dont know where the error is?
[09:32] <dabaR> njal: and that is /boot/grub/grub.conf according to #gentoo
[09:33] <anon32> dabaR: the problem is that his BIOS doesn't boot that disk, it starts off of a disk with only a Windows bootloader
[09:33] <petri_l> dabaR : input command and I got  Initializing IP Masquerading...done.
[09:33] <dabaR> petri_l: and does it work now?
[09:33] <njal> dabaR: Erm more like vida, which is based upon gentoo
[09:33] <walkover> anon32, sorry you need to own a ti-89 ti use that program. You need a rom image from the calculator. thanks anyway.
[09:33] <anon32> njal: you could re-arrange your disks - swap your Gentoo one with your XP one
[09:33] <dabaR> anon32: boot his computer boots the grub from gentoo, so what I said is correct, if the first part of this sentence is correct, anyhow.
[09:34] <njal> anon32: Would that work?
[09:34] <anon32> walkover: um... they're all over the internets
[09:34] <anon32> I could even dcc you oe
[09:34] <njal> anon32: It seems a bit, simple, for something that caused so much grief
[09:34] <anon32> njal: um... no idea
[09:34] <petri_l> dabaR : no pingie outside my computor fom laptop
[09:34] <anon32> dabaR - it does, but he wants it to auto-boot that disk, he has to manually select that one instead of the default
[09:35] <dabaR> anon32: boot sequence?
[09:35] <njal> dabaR: So once this ubuntu install finishes, do what? Pastebin the menu.lst or go to #vida
[09:35] <anon32> dabaR: apparantly, it's not editable
[09:35] <chuckp> Anyone : Has anyone ever installed OTRS?
[09:36] <dabaR> chuckp: no they wrote the code to be uninstallable.
[09:36] <dabaR> non-installable, moreove
[09:36] <chuckp> So I'm not going to be able to install it?
[09:36] <dabaR> chuckp: it is a joke...
[09:36] <mjelva> anyone set up and configured an IMON VFD display?
[09:36] <chuckp> lol
[09:37] <dabaR> chuckp: what is otrs?
[09:37] <dabaR> !otrs
[09:37] <ubotu> otrs: Open Ticket Request System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.4p01-1 (dapper), package size 1094 kB, installed size 7008 kB
[09:37] <chuckp> a open ticket system
[09:37] <petri_l> dabaR : thanks for trying to help =) I have to get going
[09:37] <J_P> hi all
[09:37] <dabaR> chuckp: it is in universe, use apt-get
[09:37] <chuckp> aight
[09:37] <dabaR> !hi
[09:37] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:38] <totall_6_7> LOL
[09:38] <botxj> muahahaha
[09:38] <dabaR> totall_6_7: http://www.tonyyarusso.is-a-geek.com/ubuntu.html
[09:39] <anon32> if I wanted to uninstall Ubuntu, what would I have to do to keep that from breaking grub and leaving my system unbootable?
[09:39] <chuckp> ok I just did apt-get otrs
[09:39] <chuckp> now what do I need to do to run it?
[09:40] <botxj> type otrs?
[09:40] <chuckp> cmd not found
[09:40] <dabaR> anon32: not uninstall. You can get a bootloader again after you lose grub. You would still have windows?
[09:40] <botxj> search for otrs in your file system
[09:40] <totall_6_7> dabaR: cool
[09:40] <dabaR> chuckp: go read their web site on how to use the thing
[09:40] <chuckp> indeed
[09:41] <anon32> dabaR: yes?
[09:41] <dabaR> anon32: you are not asking me anything right? that was an answer to my question, right?
[09:41] <oleen> tomorrow i want to migrate from gentoo to ubuntu eft; keeping my /home-partition will be a walk in the park, right...?
[09:41] <dabaR> oleen: it is a separate partition?
[09:42] <anon32> dabaR: yes
[09:42] <oleen> dabaR: of course
[09:42] <anon32> oleen: yes... you'll simply need to fstab your home partition to /home
[09:42] <dabaR> anon32: then read about fixing mbr after removing ubuntu on google, or wait til I find you a link
[09:43] <anon32> gah, 279 more packages to download..
[09:43] <oleen> i'm 99% sure it will work, just querying about some odd bug, which i'm not suspecting ubuntu to have.
[09:43] <dabaR> oleen: well, ubuntu has two ways of installation that I know how to use. the desktop, and alternate CD. I prefer using the alternate CD for installs, cause the desktop CD is a live cd with an installer added on, which is still buggy imho.
[09:43] <oleen> i'll backup everything just for the sake of it, of course
[09:43] <kauan> hi
[09:44] <dabaR> In any case, make sure you select to manually edit the partition table, and then mount the proper partition as /home, and dont reformat. those will be some options in the intaller.
[09:44] <dabaR> !hi
[09:44] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:44] <kauan> wow big channel:)
[09:44] <oleen> ok... i'll choose to trust ubuntu, that's why i'm migrating in the first place :)
[09:45] <dabaR> oleen: never trust an Ubuntu
[09:45] <dabaR> or a computer for that matter.
[09:45] <kauan> never trust anyone, not even yourself.
[09:45] <agro1986> help: any GPL command line program to read/write id3 tags?
[09:45] <anon32> oleen: well, personally, I think gentoo is nice - especially if you like updates faster than every 6 months
[09:45] <jvolkman> Why not trust a computer? It only does what it's told to do so. =)
[09:45] <anon32> what kauan said - you could be a victim of mind controlk
[09:46] <anon32> agro1986: id3tag I think
[09:46] <yeti> is there a gaim 2 repository for ubuntu
[09:46] <yeti> ?
[09:46] <walkover> is there really no calculator for linux that handles similar to a ti-89
[09:46] <kauan> anon32: but you shouldn't trust me saying not to trust anyone
[09:46] <chuckp> BRB
[09:46] <ayorko1> Hi, I installed Ubuntu yesterday.  I'm trying to run an OpenGL application, and am getting the following error: "Unknown device ID 3154, please report. Assuming plain R300."  I'm running on an ibm thinkpad t43p. Can anyone help?
[09:46] <anon32> jvolkman: but how do you know it's doing what *you* want - not what someone else wants
[09:46] <oleen> anon32: my problem with gentoo, which i have been using for a couple of years is (not unexpected) (1) compiling, which takes ages, and (2) wanting to have a bleeding edge (somewhat...) system...
[09:47] <tsoler> hi to all
[09:47] <St_MPA3b> !hi
[09:47] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:47] <anon32> walkover: I've told you, TiEmu
[09:47] <oleen> everything else i can compile from source
[09:47] <dabaR> agro1986: id3tool
[09:47] <anon32> ayorko1: unless that's a fatal error, ignore it - I get a ton of em
[09:47] <tsoler> ubutu is a robot or not??
[09:47] <jvolkman> walkover: find the TI-89 rom somewhere and use tiemu
[09:47] <dabaR> tsoler: yes.
[09:47] <tsoler> ok.
[09:47] <tsoler> i need a litlle help
[09:47] <unimatrix9> why not backup data and do an fresh install?
[09:47] <pike_> walkover: apt-cache search calculator | grep ti or something
[09:48] <dabaR> tsoler: OK, I have some left
[09:48] <anon32> !ubotu
[09:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:48] <tsoler> need to install postgis
[09:48] <tsoler> any help??
[09:48] <agro1986> thx dabarm anon32
[09:48] <anon32> walkover: for Christ's sake, you can even download it from TI
[09:48] <ayorko1> anon32: unfortunately, my app doesn't work ... it goes on to say a bunch of stuff, including "No ctx->FragmentProgram._Current!!" and "File r300_render.c function r300_get_num_verts line 193
[09:48] <ayorko1> user error: 341 is not a valid number of vertices for primitive Q !"
[09:48] <oleen> second question: ubuntu and fvwm works fine together? heard some rumours that it could be buggy...
[09:48] <unimatrix9> as to dabaR, if you want xp bootloader back you can use the xp bootcd
[09:49] <tsoler> dapar: do u know something about?
[09:49] <unimatrix9> and fix /mbr
[09:49] <anon32> ayorko1: I'm curious, what app?
[09:49] <statters> If I want to run kismet -x -y -z and snort -x -y -z can I place a & between them on same line so the fire up in that order EX: snort -x -y -z & kismet -x -y -z
[09:50] <dabaR> tsoler: what do you need, what have you tried, what is not working?
[09:50] <ayorko1> anon32: just some visualization code I wrote myself using opengl.  It worked fine on my previous Debian system, but now can't work on ubuntu
[09:50] <hewitt> hi
[09:50] <tsoler> ok need jusyt installed postgresql 8.1
[09:50] <unimatrix9> Boot with the XP installation CD.
[09:50] <unimatrix9> When prompted, press R to repair a Windows XP installation.
[09:50] <unimatrix9> If repairing a host with multiple operating systems, select the appropriate one (XP) from the menu. If you have only one operating system, enter 1 to select it.
[09:50] <unimatrix9> Enter the administrator password if prompted.
[09:50] <unimatrix9> To fix the MBR, use the following command:
[09:50] <unimatrix9> fixmbr
[09:50] <tsoler> now need to install postgis
[09:50] <anon32> ayorko1: do you have the proper dependencies (stupid question as you wrote the code...)?
[09:50] <sioux> 1010????? so many problrms gives ubuntu?
[09:51] <botxj> i hate my MBR
[09:51] <dabaR> tsoler: OK, go ahead and install it
[09:51] <dabaR> sioux: that is a great question
[09:51] <tsoler> but the intructionnw on posy gis psage is how to install post gis on postgres 8.1
[09:51] <unimatrix9> i have no such problems, only ubuntu on this pc
[09:51] <unimatrix9> :)
[09:51] <Em3rald> is there a comparable terminal application for Gnome that behaves like yakuake does?
[09:51] <unimatrix9> yes
[09:51] <unimatrix9> tilda
[09:51] <Em3rald> thats what I like to hear
[09:51] <unimatrix9> apt-get install tilda
[09:51] <anon32> unimatrix9: lool
[09:51] <ayorko1> anon32: As I said, this worked fine on debian.  now, I just reinstalled it on ubuntu, but it doesn't work.  I don't know if I'm missing some dependency, as I don't really understand the error message
[09:51] <walkover> anon32, its not that simple. You have to download it. And its a windows program, first problem. Even if you get it, the only way is to flash your calc and then dump it to your computer afterwards. i dont have windows and i dont have a calc
[09:52] <tsoler> dont know how dapar:)
[09:52] <anon32> for some reason, booting a Windows CD only returns the error "no hard drives detected"
[09:52] <Lam_> anyone know why totem is spitting out "could not determine type of stream" errors for my mp3s?  my other mp3s work, but for some reason, a different set of mp3s gave me that error.
[09:52] <Em3rald> unimatrix9:  thanks my friend.  ANd I use aptitude instead of apt-get because of the whole dependency thing :D
[09:52] <djmccormick> i just installed 6.06 tls... just the basic software seems installed. is this right?
[09:52] <anon32> ayorko1: errors need context, and ask someone else - I'm not nerdular in this area
[09:52] <unimatrix9> ah ok!
[09:52] <djmccormick> also, how can i start sshd?
[09:53] <tsoler> post gis says to extract files on specific directoruy that doesnt exist!!
[09:53] <anon32> walkover: um... you just download the rom from TI and build TiEmu from the sources at lpg.ticalc.org
[09:53] <ayorko1> anon32: sorry, I had a typo ... I mean I just recompiled on debian.  okey dokes, I will try posting on the web forum where I have more space for context :)
[09:53] <unimatrix9> anon32 , use an other drive, or set bios to boot the correct cdrom drive
[09:53] <anon32> the OS files for the 89 series == the ROMs
[09:54] <djmccormick> i just installed tls. how can i get sshd going?
[09:54] <djmccormick> and do i need to open a port for it?
[09:54] <walkover> ill make another try
[09:54] <anon32> unimatrix9: no, when I boot off of a Windows CD, the Windows installer/recovery tells me that I have no hard drives
[09:54] <dabaR> tsoler: well, do you have a postgresql-server-7.2 or higher installed?
[09:54] <sacker> Say I have the server iso for ubuntu can i write that to a dvd? or does it got to be a cd?
[09:54] <dabaR> !openssh-server
[09:54] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB
[09:54] <dabaR> djmccormick: you need only that
[09:54] <tsoler> yap
[09:54] <tsoler> 8.1
[09:54] <dabaR> tsoler: do you have build-essential installed?
[09:54] <unimatrix9> anon32, do they show up at boot on the very fast bios messages?
[09:55] <djmccormick> dabaR: is it already installed?
[09:55] <tsoler> where is that?
[09:55] <Boondoggle> everybody ./j thetravelers
[09:55] <anon32> unimatrix9: do what?
[09:55] <Boondoggle> ./j thetravelers
[09:55] <dabaR> djmccormick: I can not access the command line on your computer, but you could try. sudo aptitude search openssh-server
[09:55] <tsoler> ill check out just a moment please
[09:55] <unimatrix9> do you get the bios message, at first boot that they are detected?
[09:55] <anon32> unimatrix9: this question should really go to ##windows, right?
[09:55] <djmccormick> dabaR: i won't need to open any pots?
[09:55] <djmccormick> *ports
[09:56] <dabaR> djmccormick: it will be done for you.
[09:56] <unimatrix9> no , its an hardware issue
[09:56] <dabaR> djmccormick: where do you exactly normally open ports?
[09:56] <dabaR> tsoler: sudo aptitude install build-essential libgeos-dev libgeos2c2a
[09:56] <janbanan> Is there any reason not to update to edgy today?
[09:56] <anon32> unimatrix9: the BIOS reporst finding the hard drive, but the Win installer doesn't
[09:56] <dabaR> janbanan: yes, cause it is still not released as a stable system
[09:57] <unimatrix9> anon32, might it be an sata disk?
[09:57] <anon32> unimatrix9: yes
[09:57] <unimatrix9> anon32, you might need the original floppy for sata setup, do you have it?
[09:57] <anon32> janbanan: no, it's more or less stable
[09:57] <anon32> but if you have hand built or non-supported apps, they may break
[09:58] <EmxBA> will edgy be released at today 00:00 UTC or it'll be late or something else?
[09:58] <tsoler> dont what is that for. do i need it??
[09:58] <dabaR> more less than more, off course.
[09:58] <dabaR> EmxBA: we don't know.
[09:58] <anon32> unimatrix9: no - and I don't even have a floppy drive
[09:58] <Dr_willis> EmxBA,  egads - that gets asked every time... :)
[09:58] <EmxBA> egads, Dr_willis?
[09:58] <anon32> EmxBA: the exact time is not set
[09:58] <dabaR> tsoler: that will install the recommended and depended-on apps to build postgis which is what you are trying to do. it is setup work for the postgis installation
[09:59] <unimatrix9> anon32, how did you get linux to install , and windows in the first place?
[09:59] <dabaR> Dr_willis: do you have a phd in something?
[09:59] <Siph0n> is there any possibility that edgy will support my dlink dwl-g630 better than dapper does? :)
[09:59] <anon32> unimatrix9: Windows was installed OEM, I just installed Ubuntu from the CD
[09:59] <excitatory> so i'm compiling an app, and the configure script needs gtk+ (obviously the dev package).. but i did an aptitude search and i only see two gtk+ packages, and they're for directfb.. the rest are gtk1 or gtk2 related.. is gtk+ equivalent to something.. or what package should i install?
[10:00] <flapane> powernow-k8: MP systems not supported by PSB BIOS structure   ne1 got it?
[10:00] <unimatrix9> anon32, so you booted ubuntu from cdrom, and that worked?
[10:00] <anon32> Siph0n: dunno, if it doesn't atm, it won't - features are already locked
[10:00] <tsoler> dapar: trust you, installing
[10:00] <anon32> excitatory: yea, GTK2
[10:00] <Siph0n> oh k... lol....
[10:00] <anon32> unimatrix9: yep
[10:00] <dabaR> excitatory: libgtk2.0-dev
[10:00] <Siph0n> other ppl on the forums got it to work, so ill keep trying with dapper :)
[10:01] <Dr_willis> I got a degree in loveology.
[10:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:01] <excitatory> ano32, ok thank you.
[10:01] <dabaR> the love doctor...
[10:01] <Dr_willis> dabaR,  For i am the Dr of Love!
[10:01] <botxj> doctor phil!
[10:01] <unimatrix9> anon32, the only conclusion i can make is that you dont have an windows xp cdrom that boots, but an recovery version, that needs an other method of instlaling
[10:02] <anon32> sorry for asking a non-ubuntu question - does Vista have a release date? and is there an OS X channel?
[10:02] <dabaR> anon32: ##apple
[10:02] <botxj> anon32 you can have your gander at Vista RC2 if ya like
[10:02] <statters> if I use the & sysmbol between 2 commands is there a way to set a delay on the second command or to have it open in a new shell?
[10:02] <dabaR> anon32: did you ask google about vista?
[10:02] <anon32> unimatrix9: ARGH?
[10:02] <botxj> google knows nothing
[10:02] <uun> i need help with the keyboard setup, i need English/American layout, but the closest i have to it in System,Preferences,Keyboard is Canada
[10:02] <uun> how can i get american=
[10:02] <dabaR> tsoler: type da, then press tab to get my nick
[10:02] <uun> *?
[10:03] <botxj> google is evil, google is a evil profit hungry organization out to dominate everything just like microsoft
[10:03] <Dr_willis> statters,     sleep - delay for a specified amount of time
[10:03] <dabaR> uun: US?
[10:03] <Davey_> How do I install apxs for Apache 1.3 on Dapper?
[10:03] <uun> yes
[10:03] <tsoler> dapar : installed
[10:03] <sacker> uun: mine is called U.S English on the Layout
[10:03] <user-land> botxj, do you know more ?
[10:03] <uun> brb
[10:03] <uun> lemme try to find that
[10:03] <botxj> user-land more of what?
[10:03] <dabaR> tsoler: then, what exact postgresql do you have?
[10:04] <statters> ty Dr_willis
[10:04] <user-land> what you said.
[10:04] <tsoler> 8.1
[10:04] <anon32> lol, ##apple is as empty as #w3m
[10:04] <dabaR> anon32: ya, apple sucks.
[10:04] <dabaR> hehe
[10:04] <botxj> user-land: that google is a evil company just like microsoft? no i dont know more about that
[10:04] <statters> Dr_willis: and to have it open in a new shell is their a command for that
[10:04] <uun> thank you, dabaR, hehe, i can't believe i didn't check for U.S., just 'American' :?;
[10:04] <user-land> pity. i wonder who is backing them financially.
[10:04] <anon32> mm, OS X is kinda cool - too bad nobody's there to tell me now to install on my PC
[10:05] <uun> thanks '
[10:05] <Dr_willis> statters,  xterm -e whatever (i think) :P
[10:05] <anon32> !bicyclerepair
[10:05] <ubotu> bicyclerepair: A refactoring tool for python. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 752 kB
[10:05] <dabaR> tsoler: sudo aptitude install postgresql-server-dev-8.1
[10:05] <Dr_willis> statters,  not sure if the gnome-terminal/konsole have similer options
[10:05] <amias> Davey_,  with apt or as you would normally , whay did you have in mind
[10:05] <user-land> microsoft is masonic
[10:05] <SupremacyGnu> hey, I just discovered with nvclock that I'm using 2X and it also says that my AGP rates are 1X 2X 4X, is it recomended to raise it to 4X? and if so... how do I do it?
[10:05] <dabaR> heh, US was the right answer...
[10:05] <Davey_> amias: ah, it was apparently not part of the standard repository, had to enable security (o.O)
[10:05] <statters> Dr_willis: thnx ill give it a whirl
[10:06] <anon32> huh, wonder how bicyclerepair got installed
[10:06] <dabaR> !bicyclerepair
[10:06] <ubotu> bicyclerepair: A refactoring tool for python. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 752 kB
[10:06] <anon32> SupremacyGnu: probably in your BIOS, there's little reason to do so if you don't need to
[10:06] <biglurch> digg reports edgy is releasing tomorrow is that true?
[10:06] <agro1986> help: is there any command line tool that allows me to know the bitrate of an mp3 file?
[10:07] <SupremacyGnu> anon32, ok. Well, I was told I would get better graphic. But if it doesn't change much, i'll skip it
[10:07] <tsoler> ok
[10:07] <tsoler> installed
[10:07] <anon32> biglurch: yes - but it's more or less final now, so upgrade ahead of time if you plan on upgrading tommorow
[10:07] <dabaR> tsoler: when done download this file: http://postgis.refractions.net/download/postgis-1.1.5.tar.gz
[10:07] <anon32> agro1986: play it with mplayer and see what it says?
[10:08] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: you there, again
[10:08] <amias> anyone know where in beryl-manager i can tweak the effects used on tooltips and menus
[10:08] <tsoler> downloaded
[10:08] <dabaR> tsoler: next, go to the dir where you downloaded that file, and run tar xzvf postgis-1.1.5.tar.gz
[10:08] <anon32> SupremacyGnu: increasing your VRAM's multiplier will improve performance somewhat, but if you don't need it, don't try something risky like that
[10:08] <agro1986> uhm... I need to make a script so I need to program to output to stdout
[10:08] <agro1986> anon: uhm... I need to make a script so I need to program to output to stdout
[10:08] <agro1986> anon32: uhm... I need to make a script so I need to program to output to stdout
[10:08] <SupremacyGnu> anon32, ok. Then I won't. thanks
[10:09] <agro1986> anon32: uhm... I need to make a script so I need "THE" program to output to stdout (typo corrected)
[10:09] <njal> anon32: Ok i can't boot from the sata drive, but i can boot from the ide drive then select the sata drive, but it still boots xp by default
[10:09] <anon32> agro1986: not sure, ask someone else (don't repeat at me, I have really bad lag :-\)
[10:09] <lupine_85> agro1986: echo
[10:10] <tsoler> dapar: command for cd??
[10:10] <lupine_85> e.g. echo "hello world"
[10:10] <dabaR> tsoler: cd
[10:10] <anon32> njal: ugh.... your system has problems beyond my ability, sorry
[10:10] <Quixotic> im trying to install the package phpmyadmin with apt get but it keeps saying couldnt find package am i missing somethign?
[10:10] <tsoler> is it case sensitive or not??
[10:10] <agro1986> lupine_85: uhm, I need a program that outputs the bitrate of an mp3 file to stdout...
[10:10] <dabaR> ya
[10:10] <biglurch> you need to add to your repositories then quixotic
[10:10] <LjL> Quixotic: the Universe component, i guess
[10:10] <LjL> !universe > Quixotic
[10:10] <biglurch> /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <Quixotic> i just did the repository thing
[10:11] <LjL> Quixotic: did yu also type "sudo apt-get update"?
[10:11] <Quixotic> except i added the word multiverse after the word universe was i not soppose to do that?
[10:11] <biglurch> did you do sudo apt-get update
[10:11] <LjL> Quixotic: no, that's ok
[10:11] <lupine_85> agro1986: mp3info
[10:11] <anon32> I probably don't need gcc3.4 once I upgrade to edgy, right?
[10:11] <lupine_85> !mp3info
[10:11] <ubotu> mp3info: An MP3 technical info viewer and ID3 1.x tag editor. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.4-8 (dapper), package size 28 kB, installed size 112 kB
[10:11] <lupine_85> anon32: shouldn't need it
[10:11] <Quixotic> ljl well then i think i did everything correctly. and i did type sudo apt-get update
[10:11] <Paddy_EIRE> I started up my comp this morning only for it to do its regular fs check, when it is 20 odd percent throught the check I get "failed". I then have no choice but to power down my comp or reboot in a loop cycle... I've tried booting in recovery mode only to be faced with this check again.  if anyone could tell me how this could be fixed I would be delighted
[10:11] <Xal> I've recently updated to edgy eft, and a few packages are being held back. Most of them are python.
[10:11] <anon32> lupine_85: yay
[10:12] <LjL> Quixotic: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:12] <dabaR> tsoler: tsoler do you know where you downloaded the file? it is likely in ~/Desktop, so "cd ~/Desktop" then ls postgis-1.1.5.tar.gz see whether it is there.
[10:12] <tsoler> dapar: having dificulties is that right syntax cd: path/to//home/tsoler/Desktop  ????
[10:12] <lupine_85> "mp3info -r a"  should do it
[10:12] <Quixotic> im on a different computer with this irc then i am with the server
[10:12] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE: your file system has issues..
[10:12] <dabaR> tsoler: no :
[10:12] <lupine_85> tsoler: initial / to start from root
[10:12] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE: try fsck
[10:12] <Seveas> Xal, try apt-get install name-of-heldback-python-packages
[10:12] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: i kinda guessed that
[10:12] <lupine_85> e.g. cd /home/tsoler/Desktop
[10:13] <dabaR> thanks
[10:13] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: how to fix them and why would be nice
[10:13] <Xal> What is python required for?
[10:13] <lupine_85> as an alternative, the ~ (tilde) means "my home directory" so you can do cd ~/Desktop
[10:13] <concept10> anyone using the ubuntu system panel ?  (USP)
[10:13] <PapaLion> hey everyone. know a way that I can play a .mp4?
[10:13] <lupine_85> mplayer
[10:13] <LjL> !info webboard | quixotic
[10:13] <ubotu> webboard: Copy and paste to a public pastebin server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 188 kB
[10:13] <unimatrix9> never run fsck on an mounted system
[10:13] <dabaR> Xal: python applications
[10:13] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: im running from a livecd now can I do it from here
[10:13] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE: err, I'd just reformat and restore from backups, but others might tell you better advice
[10:14] <tamacracker> Does anyone use GIMP?
[10:14] <LjL> !anyone
[10:14] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:14] <anon32> PapaLion: where'd you get it? if it's from foo online store, you can't
[10:14] <anon32> otherwise, use !restrictedformats
[10:14] <anon32> tamacracker: yea... though I like photoshop better
[10:15] <pike_> agro1986: does mp3info filemp3 -p %r work?
[10:15] <concept10> im attempting to find out what the lastest version of USP
[10:15] <tsoler> done:)
[10:15] <PapaLion> anon32:  thanks.. its not from foo online store.. its my own
[10:15] <Quixotic> ljl is it ok if i just type it in my self here?
[10:15] <PapaLion> !restrictedformats
[10:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:15] <dabaR> tsoler: that should give you a dir there now, called something like postgis-1.1.5_files, go into that directory
[10:15] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: my system was in perfect working order until now....I'm unfortunately getting quite tired of reformatting and re-install, never have I had to do so, so many times
[10:15] <dabaR> tsoler: next, go to the dir where you downloaded that file, and run tar xzvf postgis-1.1.5.tar.gz
[10:15] <biglurch> http://thelinuxadvocate.blogspot.com/
[10:15] <dabaR> pah
[10:15] <dabaR> tsoler: did you run tar?
[10:15] <PapaLion> I hate restricted formats :(
[10:15] <Quixotic> o wait i think i know the problem
[10:15] <Quixotic> how do i save changes ive made when i opened the document lol
[10:16] <LjL> Quixotic: no, not in here... type it in the pastebin. but, really, i think you should find a way to pastebin the actual file...
[10:16] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE: might I inquire what the fs type was? and how old is your hard drive?
[10:16] <dabaR> Quixotic: what program?
[10:16] <Quixotic> i did it from the command line
[10:16] <LjL> Quixotic: depends on the editor
[10:16] <Quixotic> so not sure?
[10:16] <Quixotic> i typed
[10:16] <dabaR> Quixotic: what was the command you typed?
[10:16] <tsoler> ive runned tar and now is unzipped
[10:16] <Paddy_EIRE> im using "ext3" and the drive is less than 1 year old
[10:16] <dabaR> then cd to the new dir
[10:16] <Quixotic> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:16] <LjL> Quixotic: Ctrl+X saves and exits in nano
[10:16] <Xal> These are the packages being kept back. http://pastebin.ca/221656
[10:16] <dabaR> use cd postgi<tab><tab>
[10:17] <dabaR> Then type in the rest of the dir
[10:17] <Quixotic> ok i think thats y it didnt load the changes
[10:17] <Quixotic> i didnt press save
[10:17] <tamacracker> anon32 you know how on photoshop... i believe the lasso tool will let you run a line all around an object in the picture and you can delete the whole background but that image, or atleast copy/cut that image you selected and you can then add it onto a different background?
[10:17] <Quixotic> hahaha im an idiot
[10:17] <dabaR> Quixotic: that would do it
[10:17] <flapane> powernow-k8: MP systems not supported by PSB BIOS structure   ne1 got it?
[10:17] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE: well, keep asking - someone more nerdular than me may choose to help you (though my experiences with this channel have been less than impressive)
[10:17] <tsoler> ok
[10:17] <dabaR> tsoler: you are in the dir?
[10:17] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: is it possible to do the fsck from the livecd
[10:17] <judgen> hi, what package contains "smbmnt" ??
[10:17] <tsoler> yes
[10:17] <dabaR> tsoler: run ./configure
[10:18] <dabaR> !find smbmnt
[10:18] <anon32> tamacracker: yea?
[10:18] <ubotu> File smbmnt found in smbfs
[10:18] <anon32> on GIMP, you can select all and use the exclude mode on the select tool
[10:18] <judgen> danke =)
[10:18] <pike_> Paddy_EIRE: what was the problem again?
[10:18] <dabaR> bitte
[10:18] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE: yea- just remember to umount
[10:18] <ZirJoker> di u run any risk installin eterm terminal emulator?
[10:18] <Quixotic> so is it ok that i type in multiverse afte rthe word universe?
[10:18] <tamacracker> anon32 how exactly do i do that with GIMP?
[10:18] <ZirJoker> do i*
[10:18] <Quixotic> im not really sure waht it does but thats what the website showed it
[10:18] <LjL> Quixotic: yes
[10:18] <tamacracker> anon32 do I choose the lasso?
[10:18] <ZirJoker> du i run any risk installin eterm terminal emulator?
[10:18] <tsoler> error:
[10:18] <dabaR> tsoler: now, if I have not said earlier, there is a site we use to paste errors...
[10:19] <judgen> hm i have smbfs installed, still smb4k, komba and all the other clients cant find it
[10:19] <dabaR> tsoler: paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:19] <tsoler> only one error
[10:19] <LjL> Quixotic, Main contains officially supported free packages. Restricted contains officially supported non-free packages. Universe contains community supported free packages. Multiverse contains community supported non-free packages
[10:19] <dabaR> tsoler: then you tell us the URL it gave.
[10:19] <Paddy_EIRE> pike_: when I start my comp it does the filesystem check then fails at around 20-30% I then cannot get to my os....it was in perfect working order before
[10:19] <Quixotic> this is so cool i got a big command line thing up its my first time ever using it and its on a projector and im having lots of fun ^^ thx everyone for all ur help
[10:19] <tsoler> cant find flex
[10:19] <tamacracker> anon32 there's replace, add, subtract etc... not exclude.
[10:19] <anon32> tamacracker: on every select tool, there are 4 buttons on the top - they are replace, add, remove, and intersect
[10:19] <ZirJoker> du i run any risk installin eterm terminal emulator?
[10:19] <tamacracker> anon32 yeah
[10:19] <tamacracker> anon32 im assuming i click "subtract"
[10:19] <anon32> tamacracker: first ctrl+a to select all and then use the remove button
[10:20] <anon32> tamacracker: yea
[10:20] <tsoler> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28308/
[10:20] <Paddy_EIRE> pike_: I would like to know if I can do anything now while running from the livecd
[10:20] <ZirJoker> HEY
[10:20] <ZirJoker> do i run any risk installin eterm terminal emulator?
[10:20] <LjL> tsoler: sudo apt-get install flex
[10:20] <tamacracker> anon32 ok, then when i hit control+a to select all, then I click remove?
[10:21] <Quixotic> hey ljl u said ctrl x saves in nano right? i rpessed that and im not sure but i think it might of froze
[10:21] <anon32> ZirJoker: probably not - other than the normal
[10:21] <tsoler> ii sir
[10:21] <tamacracker> anon32, then I can run the lines to select what object in the picture i want to keep/copy/cut?
[10:21] <LjL> Quixotic: look at the status bar. it's asking you questions.
[10:21] <anon32> tamacracker: yea, then you use the lasso per normal
[10:21] <anon32> to delete, just go to edit > clear
[10:21] <pike_> Paddy_EIRE: i guess fsck would be a good start
[10:21] <Quixotic> i cant seem to see it maybe the projector is cutting off soem of the screen =(
[10:21] <lwizardl> how do i get my dns working on my ubuntu 6.06 lts server i can't ping
[10:21] <tamacracker> anon32, ok im gonna test it out bro :D
[10:22] <ZirJoker> what are the normal risks?
[10:22] <LjL> Quixotic: ok, press Y and then Enter
[10:22] <dabaR> tsoler: sudo aptitude install flex;./configure
[10:22] <apecat> hmm, why won't php files load as pages from my apache server? thay srart a download dialog on my browser. I have installed apache2, php5, and enabled it, and uncommented refernces to php in the apache2 conf file
[10:22] <Paddy_EIRE> pike_: do I just type in a terminal "fsck"
[10:22] <tsoler> errors
[10:22] <frandavid100> hi! where can I file bugs for gnome-main-menu, AKA slab?
[10:22] <tsoler> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28309/
[10:22] <anon32> ZirJoker: that the software is crappy or some unknown bug will cause conflicts
[10:22] <dabaR> lwizardl: but you can ping IP addresses
[10:22] <apecat> ..and installed  libapache2-mod-php5
[10:22] <ZirJoker> o.o
[10:22] <ZirJoker> ok
[10:22] <anon32> you know, the normal risks with installing anything
[10:22] <ZirJoker> thx
[10:22] <LjL> tsoler: that's not an error
[10:23] <biglurch> did you enable the php5 module in httpd.conf
[10:23] <amias> frandavid100, launchpad.net
[10:23] <pike_> Paddy_EIRE: fsck /dev/whatever you might also look ad debugfs ive never used it myself
[10:23] <tsoler> but ?:)
[10:23] <tsoler> is that ok then?
[10:23] <frandavid100> but there's no gnome-main-menu section amias
[10:23] <frandavid100> there's only main-menu but I think that's the old one
[10:23] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE: fsck.fstype /dev/foo
[10:23] <dabaR> LjL: looks like an error here...
[10:23] <biglurch> go to /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and look for the list of moduals
[10:23] <Quixotic> ya the screen is cut off by one line is there a way i can resize it i think its not matching the projectors res
[10:24] <LjL> tsoler: but, nothing. it simply means you have selected the KDE frontend for debconf dialogs, but that isn't working, so it's falling back to the text-mode frontend. which is fine.
[10:24] <pike_> Paddy_EIRE: sound like maybe a hardware issue if the keeps recurring
[10:24] <LjL> dabaR: ^
[10:24] <tamacracker> anon32, naw bro it selects the whole image, and then all I can do is just move the whole image
[10:24] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: I type this from the livecd into a terminal " fsck.fstype /dev/foo"
[10:24] <dabaR> LjL: oh, maybe...
[10:24] <tamacracker> anon32, I'm tryin to lasso/cut the image i outline so I can't show off the background.
[10:24] <dabaR> tsoler: run ./configure now
[10:24] <biglurch> quixotic you could wrap up the projector and send it to me ill fix it :)
[10:24] <anon32> tamacracker: select it all, then use the lasso to remove the part you want to keep
[10:24] <tsoler> god knows if i understood i think with this
[10:25] <Quixotic> whats ur address biglurch? XD
[10:25] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE: lol - replace fstype with the file system type and replace foo with the node
[10:25] <Em3rald> hey whuts the cli command for firing up the gnome desktop?
[10:25] <Paddy_EIRE> ah
[10:25] <tsoler> done
[10:25] <dabaR> Em3rald: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[10:25] <Em3rald> tx
[10:25] <djbat> need help
[10:25] <dabaR> tsoler: run ./make
[10:25] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: node being "hda1" my drive I think
[10:25] <amias> frandavid100, is there one in bug-buddy ?
[10:25] <tamacracker> yeah ctrl + a (select all), then click lasso tool, click subtract box, then try to run a line that will outline the object you want to keep in the picture, right?
[10:25] <anon32> Em3rald: startx
[10:25] <tamacracker> anon32^
[10:25] <dabaR> djbat: you only come when you need something, come say hi sometimes...
[10:25] <LjL> dabaR: ./make?
[10:26] <michel> anyone knows a good c++ editor?
[10:26] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE: yea
[10:26] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: is the drive not supposed to be mounted there aswell or something
[10:26] <tsoler> it says no such file
[10:26] <dabaR> LjL: sorry, wrong, I guess:)
[10:26] <dabaR> tsoler: just make
[10:26] <LjL> tsoler: type "make"
[10:26] <anon32> tamacracker: yes
[10:26] <djbat> how can i get the root pass... I haven't changed it...
[10:26] <iamtheric> it says library not found when execute this program, but i put it in the /usr/local/lib and then ran ldconfig
[10:26] <LjL> !root | djbat
[10:26] <ubotu> djbat: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:26] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: im just running by default on the live cd
[10:26] <iamtheric> michel, any text editor will do
[10:26] <tsoler> allright
[10:26] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE: yea, make sure that device is not mounted
[10:27] <dabaR> tsoler: in the meantime, go into another terminal(shift+ctrl+l) and run sudo aptitude install checkinstall
[10:27] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: how would I do that
[10:27] <Gast6336144> it seems a lil hectic in here
[10:27] <dabaR> LjL: http://www.tonyyarusso.is-a-geek.com/ubuntu.html :P
[10:27] <anon32> tamacracker: weird, the same thing is happening to me
[10:27] <tamacracker> anon32 am I supposed to hold ctrl+a?
[10:27] <michel> iamtheric: looking for something more then that... a bit too complicated if you want to do a bigger project..
[10:27] <tamacracker> anon32 lol...
[10:27] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: it says "fsck.ext3: Permission denied while trying to open /dev/hda1
[10:27] <Paddy_EIRE> You must have r/w access to the filesystem or be root"
[10:28] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE: sudo umount /dev/foo and then fsck.ext3 /dev/foo
[10:28] <grout_work> will there be a lamp install for edgy tommorow?
[10:28] <dabaR> LjL: I am the third most used word.
[10:28] <tamacracker> anon32, crap this is one of the reasons why I haven't gave up on windows, because I used photoshop alot.
[10:28] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[10:28] <tsoler> all right
[10:28] <djbat> eny there can help me? plz pm
[10:28] <dabaR> tsoler: let us know when it is all done
[10:28] <djbat> *any
[10:28] <flapane> powernow-k8: MP systems not supported by PSB BIOS structure   ne1 got it?
[10:28] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE: sudo, sorry
[10:28] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[10:28] <LjL> dabaR: heh
[10:28] <dabaR> djbat: go read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:28] <anon32> tamacracker: wait, select with replace and then use select -> invert
[10:28] <anon32> sorry
[10:28] <grout_work> does anyone know if there will be a lamp install of edgy tommorow?
[10:29] <iamtheric> michel, kdevelop
[10:29] <tsoler> it syas setting up checkinstall is that done??
[10:29] <dabaR> tsoler: it will give you a prompt(place to type) when it is done.
[10:29] <LjL> tsoler: no, run "sudo checkinstall" in the source directory. DO NOT interrupt, it, ever.
[10:29] <LjL> !checkinstall
[10:29] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[10:29] <tsoler> done
[10:29] <dabaR> LjL: wait for a second.
[10:29] <michel> iamtheric: I 'll have a look at this, thx
[10:30] <dabaR> tsoler: in the checkinstall terminal, run exit
[10:30] <tamacracker> anon32, ok reopen the image, click lasso, use replace, then lasso the object I want to keep, then click invert?
[10:30] <dabaR> then run sudo checkinstall in the other terminal if that one has a prompt too.
[10:30] <anon32> LjL: but what if checkinstall freezes?
[10:30] <anon32> tamacracker: yea, try that
[10:30] <tamacracker> k
[10:30] <jan_> anyone except me having problems with "libdl.so.2"? on Edgy RC? I want to install edonkey but libc6 seems to be broken and cannot be reinstalled? error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:31] <LjL> anon32: pray it doesn't
[10:31] <dabaR> anon32: read the page that is linked in the factoid to find out...:)
[10:31] <iamtheric> hello "error while opening shared libraries: NL.so.1.6: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory"
[10:31] <anon32> LjL: what happens if you have to interrupt it?
[10:31] <tsoler> :package documentation does not exist
[10:31] <LjL> anon32, what the page says
[10:32] <djbat> need help... plz pm me
[10:32] <dabaR> tsoler: which is OK, did you get back to the prompt?
[10:32] <amias> jan: have you tried running it through strace , e.g. strace /path/to/binary
[10:32] <LjL> djbat, you've been answered repeatedly.
[10:32] <dabaR> djbat: did you read the wiki page about root yet?
[10:32] <hid3> Evening everyone. What parameters should I pass for `ls` so it will list directories and files, but won't display symbolic links?
[10:32] <djbat> can i pm you? LjL
[10:32] <dabaR> hid3: unix assignment?
[10:32] <LjL> !pm | djbat
[10:32] <ubotu> djbat: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[10:32] <tsoler> :create a default a default set of packages? y or n
[10:33] <amias> djbat, why do you need root ?
[10:33] <jhujhiti_> can someone with xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_0.14.3+seriouslythistime-0ubuntu3_amd64 please give me the md5 sum of your /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so ?
[10:33] <Snake> Can anyone tell me if open office has a dictionary plugin, and how I can get it through apt?
[10:33] <LjL> hid3: don't think that's possible with ls. perhaps try find
[10:33] <hid3> dabaR: Just trying to make my microdc client not to follow symlinks..
[10:33] <tamacracker> anon32 lol this is a stupid question, but where's the invert option?
[10:33] <jan_> /usr/lib$ strace libdl.so.2 -> strace: libdl.so.2: command not found
[10:33] <hid3> well, find is not a solution
[10:33] <iamtheric> anyone "error while opening shared libraries: NL.so.1.6: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory"
[10:33] <jolzee> weather
[10:33] <tsoler> dapar: should i create default set of packages??
[10:33] <dabaR> tsoler: y sounds right
[10:33] <anon32> amias: I assume some prefer to run commands as the superuser
[10:33] <Chippy> question: if I download and install Edgy today, will I have any problems getting it to work with the official release tomorrow (I'm impatient :) )
[10:33] <anon32> without typing sudo all the time
[10:33] <dabaR> hid3: did you read the manual for ls?
[10:34] <tsoler> write a descr for package?
[10:34] <anon32> tamacracker: the select menu at the top of the app
[10:34] <dabaR> Type anything, it is just words.
[10:34] <dabaR> tsoler: the postgis package sounds OK
[10:34] <amias> jan_, no i meant the program not the library itself , what is it ?
[10:34] <hid3> dabaR: yes but found nothing appropriate..
[10:34] <Snake> Can anyone tell me if open office has a dictionary plugin, and how I can get it through apt?
[10:34] <tamacracker> anon32 do you mean replace?
[10:34] <anon32> Chippy: no - only uber-bugfixes will be added at this point
[10:34] <dabaR> hid3: are you really constrained to using only ls or can you pipe commands as well?
[10:35] <LjL> anon32: that's not a valid reason. you can use sudo -i
[10:35] <hid3> yes, using ls is a must..
[10:35] <jan_> strace: edonkey2000: command not found
[10:35] <anon32> tamacracker: no, in the file,edit,etc menu at the top, there's a menu labeled "select"
[10:35] <Chippy> anon32: and even if one of those comes out I should just be able to grab it from the repo's, correct?
[10:35] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: that "fsck.ext3 /dev/hda1" command seems to have found quite a few errors that required fixing...I just pressed y (yes) for them all, fingers crossed reboot
[10:35] <amias> Chippy, you can just install the updates when the come
[10:35] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[10:36] <Chippy> amias: awesome, thanks
[10:36] <anon32> LjL: yes, but sometimes people just want to be root all the time and to log in as root
[10:36] <jhujhiti_> is anyone running dapper/amd64?
[10:36] <anon32> LjL: or maybe he's just not a sudoer
[10:36] <dabaR> Snake: does openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us help?
[10:36] <amias> jan_, did you install it with apt ?
[10:36] <tsoler> dapar:  Installation failed. Aborting package creation. Cleaning up...OK
[10:36] <LjL> anon32: those people are the ones who should never be told how to enable it.
[10:36] <dabaR> tsoler: my nick is dabaR
[10:36] <tamacracker> anon32 ah yes, just click cut or copy
[10:36] <tsoler> ok
[10:36] <dabaR> tsoler: post the whole output, please.
[10:36] <tamacracker> anon32 lol sorry bout that... im so used to Photoshop that this progam has me feelin very noobish
[10:37] <tsoler> sorry i didnt mean to
[10:37] <anon32> LjL: dunno, depending on how often you need root level access, a root logon might be useful
[10:37] <jan_> amias, no, it comes as a  zip
[10:37] <RVman> hi all
[10:37] <LjL> anon32: no. never.
[10:37] <dabaR> tsoler: no worries, the whole reason I said it is cause I could miss your message since it does not get highlighted if you use the wrong nick
[10:37] <anon32> tamacracker: don't be, GIMP is really weird.. and Photoshop still pwns it
[10:37] <RVman> im having a little problem, i installed ubuntu today. im using teamspeak and it seems like when i use it, i can't hear any other sound
[10:37] <RVman> any idea what to do about it?
[10:37] <tamacracker> anon32 yeah, GIMP needs a lot more plugins and such
[10:38] <Chousuke> anon32: You use sudo when you need root. There is no need to log in as root.
[10:38] <anon32> LjL: you never know, there might be a situation in which you'd want to do it
[10:38] <Chousuke> There is never need for it :/
[10:38] <dabaR> tsoler: please paste the whole error to the pastebin
[10:38] <LjL> anon32: no, i do know. user "root" should never login directly, for any reason.
[10:38] <anon32> I have root logon enabled personally, so I don't have to switch users when a non-sudoer needs help
[10:38] <Chousuke> anon32: you can do everything via sudo
[10:38] <tsoler> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28311/
[10:39] <Chousuke> anon32: you can use "su yourusername" first.
[10:39] <RVman> im having a little problem, i installed ubuntu today. im using teamspeak and it seems like when i use it, i can't hear any other sound, can anyone help me please?
[10:39] <LjL> tsoler: sudo apt-get install yacc
[10:39] <anon32> Chousuke: only if you're a sudoer
[10:39] <LiraNuna> ubuntu is so gay, in windows it's so easy using TeamSpeak when it doesn't lock up the sound card cause of OSS!
[10:39] <anon32> Chousuke: meh
[10:39] <Chousuke> anon32: nay.
[10:40] <LjL> tsoler: no such package actually, try byacc perhaps
[10:40] <LjL> !language | LiraNuna
[10:40] <ubotu> LiraNuna: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:40] <LiraNuna> sorry
[10:40] <HellHat>  /s irc.undernet.org -j #idlerpg .  /s irc.undernet.org -j #idlerpg .  /s irc.undernet.org -j #idlerpg .  /s irc.undernet.org -j #idlerpg . /s irc.undernet.org -j #idlerpg .
[10:40] <LjL> !ops
[10:40] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[10:40] <tsoler> Couldn't find package yacc
[10:41] <LjL> tsoler: yeah, as i said, i gave you the wrong packagename, try byacc
[10:41] <djbat> u suck
[10:41] <dabaR> LjL: the thing is that yacc as a command does not exist in any package.
[10:41] <anto9us> RVman, I seem to recall "sudo apt-get install alsa-oss" solved a similar problem for me, although your mileage may vary
[10:42] <RVman> yes i tried that
[10:42] <RVman> it didn't work tho
[10:42] <anon32> why does Seveas have an access of 49? and who is he anyway?
[10:42] <RVman> i dunno what to do
[10:42] <dabaR> Seveas: is there a yacc binary file in any package?
[10:42] <Seveas> dabaR, you need bison flex
[10:42] <LjL> dabaR: actually, i have a yacc in byacc
[10:42] <Seveas> dabaR, you need bison and flex
[10:42] <anto9us> RVman, try aoss <program name>
[10:43] <devilz> hi can someone help me with Beryl ?
[10:43] <boink> !ask
[10:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:43] <dabaR> tsoler: try installing byacc and bison. sudo aptitude install bison byacc
[10:43] <RVman> ok
[10:43] <LjL> Seveas...?
[10:43] <devilz> beryl: No composite extension
[10:43] <Seveas> LjL, known offender, should never have been unbanned
[10:44] <dabaR> Seveas: anon32?
[10:44] <Neil3> hey guys anyone know if edgy will be released at 0:00 UTC or some time during the day tomorrow?
[10:44] <devilz> XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA -> i dont have NVIDIA i have ATI
[10:44] <LjL> oh... he did partecipate and help, though
[10:44] <crimsun> Neil3: latter.
[10:44] <tsoler> Done. The new package has been installed and saved to
[10:44] <tsoler>  /home/tsoler/Desktop/postgis-1.1.5/postgis_1.1.5-1_i386.deb
[10:44] <Neil3> aww :(
[10:44] <anto9us> LjL, he was trolling earlier
[10:44] <dabaR> tsoler: the checkinstall worked now?
[10:44] <crimsun> Neil3: we have not released at 00:00 ETC ever.
[10:44] <Quixotic> can i change the resolution my command line is usnig?
[10:44] <crimsun> UTC, rather
[10:44] <tsoler> yes
[10:45] <Acidic32> cedega takes a while to compile
[10:45] <Acidic32> LOL
[10:45] <dabaR> tsoler: sudo dpkg -i postgis_1.1.5-1_i386.deb
[10:45] <Quixotic> cuss its being cut off on my projector for some reason
[10:45] <Neil3> cheers crimsun
[10:45] <Neil3> might wake up to it then :)
[10:45] <Neil3> can't wait to ditch windows as edgy finally supports my wlan card
[10:45] <devilz> I guess nobody knows how to fix Beryl
[10:46] <dabaR> devilz: you heard of #ubuntu-xgl?
[10:46] <devilz> yes but they dont answer
[10:46] <Chippy> devilz: go in, I will try to help
[10:46] <RVman> thanks for trying to help :D
[10:47] <lnostdal> so .. how are things going? .. only a couple of hours until Edgy is here :)
[10:47] <JucaBlues> I want to make a feature request for rosetta on launchpad.net
[10:47] <dabaR> it's funny how everyone is always excited about the next release.
[10:47] <tsoler> sudo: dpkg-i: command not found
[10:47] <lnostdal> i'm buying beer and fresh CDRs tomorrow .. lol :)
[10:47] <dabaR> tsoler: sudo dpkg -i notice the space
[10:48] <wesley> Dude. Next release is going to PWN!
[10:48] <tsoler> gush: so difficult to me
[10:48] <dabaR> tsoler: hm...
[10:48] <JucaBlues> where is the apropriate place for me to make this feature request?
[10:48] <dabaR> !bug
[10:48] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:48] <Cyber_Stalker> whois jubber
[10:48] <Cyber_Stalker> oops
[10:48] <dabaR> nice nick
[10:49] <lnostdal> lol
[10:49] <dabaR> hehe
[10:49] <jhujhiti_> how can i install a specific package from edgy while the rest of my system is dapper?
[10:49] <anto9us> appears to be living up to it too
[10:49] <lnostdal> gotta get better at stalking thou
[10:49] <dabaR> it's all about stealth
[10:49] <LjL> jhujhiti_: don't. if you really want to, just use dpkg and fetch the package manually.
[10:50] <jhujhiti_> LjL: there *is* a way to do it with apt, isn't there?
[10:50] <tsoler> ok dabar
[10:50] <withaY> anyone an ssh expert?
[10:50] <LjL> jhujhiti_: perhaps some artistic package pinning.
[10:50] <music_man_nz> I'm in NZ, how long till Edgy download please?
[10:50] <anto9us> withaY, just ask would be my advice
[10:50] <Paddy_EIRE> pike_: problem sorted thanks to "fsck.ext3 /dev/hda1" :) although I would love to know why this happened in the first place
[10:50] <dabaR> jhujhiti_: ya, you tell apt to get edgy by adding it to the sources.list. this will likely break your system, though, so don't
[10:50] <jhujhiti_> LjL: ah yes, pinning is what i was thinking of
[10:51] <dabaR> withaY: don't ask that just ask what you want to know
[10:51] <Quixotic> how do i check what resolution im running at in the command line?
[10:51] <Quixotic> is it changeable?
[10:51] <fuoco> can i use mplayer to extract just the audio from a video file ?
[10:51] <jhujhiti_> dabaR: that would upgrade the whole system because apt would see a newer version of all the packages
[10:51] <LjL> !edgyfinal | music_man_nz
[10:51] <ubotu> music_man_nz: We do not yet know at precisely what time of the day Edgy will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[10:52] <withaY> dabaR:  i'm always afraid of someone yelling at me for being off-topic.
[10:52] <anto9us> fuoco, I've done that with audacity
[10:52] <dabaR> jhujhiti_: no, if you don't dist-upgrade it won't do that.
[10:52] <LjL> withaY: your fears are offtopic for this channel, please join #ubuntu-offtopic to talk about them
[10:52] <dabaR> hehe
[10:52] <dabaR> withaY: just ask
[10:52] <anto9us> withaY, questions on ssh are welcome here
[10:52] <jhujhiti_> dabaR: well true, but that's awfully dangerous and stupid =p
[10:53] <dabaR> jhujhiti_: it would get what you want done, in the manner you asked for, and, yes, I agree what you are about to do is dangerous.
[10:53] <withaY> i'm trying to connect to a new switch that i've just enabled ssh on.  but it's giving me a "rsa modulus too small" error.  the switch only allows for a 512K key.
[10:53] <dabaR> jhujhiti_: as soon as you get the package you remove the edgy sources, and go on
[10:53] <LjL> Quixotic: in the text-mode TTYs you mean? it's most likely a highres VGA mode. you can pass the "vga=ask" parameter to the kernel to have it present a selection of modes to you at boot. when you know what mode number you want, you can put "vga=number" as a permanent kernel parameter.
[10:53] <tsoler> dapar: whats next , are we done?
[10:53] <jhujhiti_> dabaR: bah, adding it with dpkg manually should be safe enough
[10:54] <tsoler> sudo dpkg -i postgis_1.1.5-1_i386.deb is done
[10:54] <dabaR> tsoler: dabaR, yes, it is done
[10:54] <dabaR> jhujhiti_: not true, same as what I said.
[10:54] <dabaR> tsoler: do you know how to use postgis?
[10:55] <OoberMick> fuoco: -dumpaudio
[10:55] <anto9us> withaY, this may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AdvancedOpenSSH
[10:55] <tsoler> no
[10:55] <IndyBC> Hello. How do I upgrade from Dapper to Edgy?
[10:55] <fuoco> OoberMick: with mplaer ?
[10:55] <dabaR> tsoler: http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/ch04.html
[10:55] <OoberMick> fuoco: yeah
[10:55] <dabaR> tsoler: have fun, it was great working with you on this:)
[10:56] <LjL> !edgy > IndyBC
[10:56] <OoberMick> fuoco: mplayer -dumpaudio <filename>
[10:56] <IndyBC> LjL: k ;)
[10:57] <Quixotic> i just installed phpmyadmin with apt how do i run it?
[10:57] <silox> I get so tired sometimes.. I went to the #openbsd channel on DalNET and asked for a reason why i chould change my server os from ubuntu to obenbsd, and what do i get? "stop asking so stupid questions", i guess i am really fucking stupid then
[10:57] <nilats> Is it possible to select what packages I want install during ubuntu install?
[10:57] <LjL> !language | silox
[10:57] <ubotu> silox: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:57] <silox> ubotu sorry :) wont happen again
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry :) wont happen again - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <[H] 3b0R> nilats: nope
[10:57] <LjL> silox: i agree, that's a stupid question :-) who said you "should" change your server OS from ubuntu to openBSD anyway?
[10:57] <dabaR> silox: well, you can learn how to ask better questions, then, you have the motivation...avoiding tiredness in the future...
[10:58] <tsoler> dabar: too tired with this??
[10:58] <nilats> =(
[10:58] <asdx> will firefox 2.0 be in edgy?
[10:58] <Quixotic> i just installed phpmyadmin with apt how do i run it?
[10:58] <dabaR> silox: http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[10:58] <silox> LjL well well i am not so good on english then :)
[10:58] <LjL> asdx: yes
[10:58] <brosnan> asdx: yes
[10:58] <anto9us> asdx, yes
[10:58] <[H] 3b0R> asdx: yes
[10:58] <dabaR> tsoler: no, I was talking with someone else
[10:58] <[H] 3b0R> :P
[10:58] <fr3ddy-fr3sh> hi folks.
[10:58] <fr3ddy-fr3sh> i got floating point exceptions when running opera. i installed the static linked one and still got the problem. any ideas? cpu,filesystem,ram???
[10:58] <asdx> cool
[10:58] <silox> dabaR haha :P
[10:59] <dabaR> silox: it is not funny, it has really good advice there.
[10:59] <Nutubuntu> Is there a way to resize the mplayer video display window? It seems that when I enlarge the window, the display itself does not scale up. Can I change that behaviour?
[10:59] <withaY> auto9us:  thanks.  i've read through it, but most of that deals with running sshd on your machine.  i don't see anything about configuring my ssh client on my machine to connect to an ssh server w/ too small of a key
[10:59] <dabaR> silox: well, maybe it is funny, but I am serious about reading that, it will help you ask questions the smart way;)
[10:59] <dabaR> silox: that was written by a big name in OSS
[10:59] <silox> dabaR okay i will try to read it ;)
[11:00] <anto9us> withaY, can you reconfigure the key size on the switch?
[11:00] <tsoler> dapar: im 3 days new in ubuntu dont know many things
[11:00] <bettsp> Hi, the dev information in KernelCustomBuild on the wiki seems out of date; none of the commands work with the Edgy linux-source package
[11:00] <withaY> auto9us:  nope.  it only allows for RSA & DES keys 512 in size.
[11:00] <Rug> Howdy all, I'm back
[11:00] <bettsp> Most of them throw "No Rule to make target"; what's the current way to build the Ubuntu kernel?
[11:00] <tsoler> where is the post gis now?
[11:00] <eyequeue> withaY, coming into this late, is the key size one byte too short?
[11:00] <dabaR> tsoler: ask here whatever you need to know, there are a lot of knowledgeable people on the subject here.
[11:01] <dabaR> tsoler: it should be possible to access postgis through postgresql.
[11:01] <anto9us> withaY, do you have to use key based authentication?
[11:01] <tsoler> yes since we are done where the application resides now?
[11:01] <eyequeue> withaY, i believe there was a known bug in an old version of sshd with a byte-short key, perhaps upgrade sshd on the server?
[11:01] <mighty_falcon> so how long now till edgy out officially?
[11:01] <withaY> auto9us:  i don't see any other options in the switch's docs.
[11:02] <Nutubuntu> mighty_falcon:  about an hour, I seem to have read
[11:02] <dabaR> tsoler: you can find that out by running sudo dpkg -L postgis_1.1.5-1_i386.deb
[11:02] <eyequeue> mighty_falcon, under 48 hours, maybe 18 or so
[11:02] <mighty_falcon> very nice, would this also be for kubuntu
[11:02] <dabaR> tsoler: to call postgis an application is not really correct, I don't think. it is a postgresql plugin. Why do you need to use this?
[11:02] <Nutubuntu> depends where you are; official release date is 26 oct ... edgy discussion is ongoing in #ubuntu+1
[11:02] <LjL> and, what is more, why can't you use the packaged version? ;-)
[11:02] <riddlebox> hello, is there a fix for the nvidia drivers locking up your system?
[11:02] <withaY> eyequeue:  it's not sshd on an ubuntu server.  it's an ssh server on a new switch that only creates keys 512 insize and so i can't get into it from ssh on my machine.
[11:03] <eyequeue> mighty_falcon, Nutubuntu, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/601
[11:03] <anto9us> withaY, have you asked in #openssh?
[11:03] <Quixotic> how do i run phpmyadmin
[11:03] <eyequeue> withaY, i did mean on the switch, but i do see how you can't get into it, ouch
[11:03] <Nutubuntu> t/y eyequeue
[11:03] <silox> Okay but without any knowledge from the nice text dabaR sent i will ask you all this nice question: Lets say that I have a 450 Mhz Dell computer which I will use as a server. SHOULD i use Ubuntu OS or a BSD OS? I will use it as a Apache and Shoutcast server :-)
[11:03] <withaY> auto9us:  d'oh!  i really should remember to look for the most obvious channel on here.  my bad.
[11:03] <joevandyk> I have a Ubuntu machine that connects to my wireless network.  I have a Windows box that connects to the Ubuntu box and gets NAT'd in to the wireless network.  I want to be able to access the Windows box from a laptop that hooks up to the wireless network.  How could I do that?
[11:03] <eyequeue> Nutubuntu, mp
[11:04] <eyequeue> Nutubuntu, np
[11:04] <Acidic32> !mpg
[11:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:04] <fuoco> OoberMick: that file that i get - it doesn't play...
[11:04] <dabaR> silox: I don't know the answer to that question.
[11:04] <mighty_falcon> eyequeue: that does not apply to kubuntu though does it?
[11:04] <Rug> silox: as long as you don't install a GUI, eight one will be fine.
[11:04] <LjL> Quixotic: type "dpkg -L phpmyadmin" to see which files the package contains. it might contain an executable (doubt it, since it appears to be a web application), or documents in /usr/share/doc, which will describe you the usage
[11:04] <anto9us> withaY, /msg chanserv list *ssh* for other channels that may be able to help
[11:04] <root_> whats up people... i know this is the wrong room for this but the wife has a mac i need to get a winscp type program for her mac to ftp using ssh to my ubuntu box
[11:04] <Rug> silox: BSD is more secure, but ubuntu has more packages
[11:04] <root_> what is the winscp type application in linux/unix?
[11:04] <nsumner> any human beings online?
[11:04] <bettsp> root_:scp
[11:04] <jeeves_Moss> all: can any one help me with a sound problem in VLC?
[11:04] <Rug> root_: scp
[11:04] <eyequeue> mighty_falcon, i suspect theirs would be simultaeous or follow
[11:04] <Nutubuntu> Is there a way to resize the mplayer video display window? It seems that when I enlarge the window, the display itself does not scale up. Can I change that behaviour?
[11:05] <d-E-u-S> when i will isntall Xubuntu Edgy with the Alternate CD comes this error: "Debootstrap - Warnung: failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc /proc"
[11:05] <root_> really...
[11:05] <tsoler> dabar:
[11:05] <root_> thats it? scp?
[11:05] <root_> lol
[11:05] <dabaR> silox: I know how to find out the answer, though. Learn what openbsd does, and then what ubuntu does, then see which is better for your needs. I would given the information so far expect that ubuntu is the better choice, if the computer can run it, cause it is a better newbie system imho
[11:05] <root_> thats easy
[11:05] <Rug> root_:  was that a trick question?
[11:05] <mighty_falcon> eyequeue: excellent thank you very much
[11:05] <tsoler> it says its not installed yet:(
[11:05] <root_> i thought it was :P
[11:05] <LjL> !enter | root_
[11:05] <ubotu> root_: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[11:05] <nsumner> sorry, i just came from #suse, where they er, arent
[11:05] <eyequeue> mighty_falcon, good luck (they have a channel here too, ask there maybe too)
[11:05] <dabaR> tsoler: run aptitude search postgis, and post output to pastebin, please
[11:05] <root_> hey ljl, enter wasn't puncuation... i was using that to signify the end o my sentence fragment
[11:06] <tsoler> i see the .deb file and is having a lock icon on it
[11:06] <OoberMick> fuoco: Odd, there is a another way to do it by dumping the raw audio, but I'll need to re-read the manpage
[11:06] <LjL> *fragment* is the key there. anyway, are you actually logged in as root...?
[11:06] <nsumner> ubuntu wont work for my chipset, but i have a linux problem installing suse.... any offers?
[11:06] <silox> Rug okay thx for that :)  dabaR  yes i will do that.
[11:06] <eyequeue> root_, see the comma key, heh
[11:06] <root_> yeah well i was raised in the south so i like to ride the "dumbass" wave as long as i can
[11:06] <Rug> silox: the nice thing about using the "LAMP install" from the dapper CD, is that it really works nice.
[11:06] <root_> and yes, im in as root
[11:07] <root_> im doing stuff that i dont want to continually type my password fr
[11:07] <segfault_> !nvidiabeta
[11:07] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[11:07] <tsoler> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28316/
[11:07] <yeik> nas
[11:07] <LjL> root_: know about the "sudo -i" command line?
[11:07] <eyequeue> root_, what is wrong with sudo -i?
[11:07] <yeik> !es
[11:07] <OoberMick> fuoco: can you play the file in mplayer?
[11:07] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:07] <dabaR> tsoler: why do you need to use postgis?
[11:08] <willwork4foo> hiya - I've been trying for ages to work out how I can get win32codecs and mpeg video support working in ubuntu - can anyone point me in the right direction?
[11:08] <fuoco> OoberMick: the original video ? yeah
[11:08] <silox> Rug: yes thats what i love with Ubuntu :)
[11:08] <root_> no i dont know about the sudo -i cli.. used to root since i have to use it ll the time at work
[11:08] <joevandyk> How do I do non-ssh port forwarding?
[11:08] <fuoco> OoberMick: in fact the sound works but the video is corrupt
[11:08] <joevandyk> I want to allow access into a NAT'd network
[11:08] <tsoler> need to get coordinates from a shape file
[11:08] <root_> joe, change your sshd_config file to look at different port
[11:08] <nsumner> wooo, way too busy, i see *your* problem :) nice to see there are some humans about though
[11:08] <Rug> silox: if this is for a production server; make sure you put it behind a GOOD firewall
[11:08] <LjL> root_: one never has to "use root all the time". actually, nobody should, especially to join IRC
[11:08] <joevandyk> root_: what?
[11:08] <dabaR> tsoler: can I see the file in a pastebin?
[11:09] <silox> Rug but which OS will take most CPU / RAM then?
[11:09] <eyequeue> joevandyk, iptables (firestarter is a frontend)
[11:09] <willwork4foo> anyone notice my question?
[11:09] <skreet> joevandyk: You want to get into a network thats using 1-to-1 nat?
[11:09] <willwork4foo> hiya - I've been trying for ages to work out how I can get win32codecs and mpeg video support working in ubuntu - can anyone point me in the right direction?
[11:09] <OoberMick> fuoco: but not the dumped audio?
[11:09] <pike_> !restricted > willwork4foo
[11:09] <Acidic32> how comes mpg's wont play in ubunut
[11:09] <Acidic32> ubuntu*
[11:09] <tsoler> explain
[11:09] <root_> ljl, well since ll the systems at work are locked down... the only account i can use it root
[11:09] <willwork4foo> thanks pike_
[11:09] <fuoco> OoberMick: no
[11:09] <joevandyk> eyequeue: my iptables-fu sucks
[11:09] <LjL> mpg > Acidic32
[11:09] <[H] 3b0R> what kind of music player do you guys use? i use amarok
[11:09] <root_> everyone else has no sudo accounts
[11:09] <eyequeue> !mp3 > Acidic32
[11:09] <Acidic32> i did that
[11:09] <Acidic32> but sitll not work
[11:09] <silox> Rug yes i want to make it very secure
[11:09] <eyequeue> joevandyk, firestarter is a gui frontend
[11:09] <dabaR> Acidic32: try sudo aptitude install totem-xine
[11:09] <joevandyk> eyequeue: i'll see if that works for me
[11:09] <Rug> silox: a non-gui *nix server is tight regardless of what flavour it's running.
[11:09] <skreet> Amarok is sweet, I generally use Foobar though
[11:10] <eyequeue> joevandyk, good luck
[11:10] <dabaR> tsoler: can you post the shape file to the pastebin?
[11:10] <tsoler> dapar: please expalin
[11:10] <Acidic32> k
[11:10] <root_> joevandyk: vim /etc/ssh/sshd_config, edit the line about ports to listen on, restart server
[11:10] <OoberMick> fuoco: mplayer -vo null -ao pcm filename
[11:10] <LjL> root_: err, even without sudo, you can still log in as a normal user, and use su... which is what people with sense always did
[11:10] <[H] 3b0R> skreet: never heard about that one
[11:10] <tsoler> why?
[11:10] <silox> Rug okay
[11:10] <dabaR> tsoler: so I can see what you need to do with it.
[11:10] <skreet> www.foobar2000.org - it's a windows player.
[11:10] <tsoler> its a shape file
[11:11] <robbbb> anyone know how to find out if acceleration is enabled? i recon compiz is a little slow
[11:11] <tsoler> with points
[11:11] <dabaR> You have never used this postgis, right? how did you hear of it, why do you think it is right, and so one, what are shape file...
[11:11] <OoberMick> fuoco: the file will seem to play but there will be no video output. And you will have a very large pcm wav file
[11:11] <leagris> #transat
[11:11] <Nutubuntu> joevandyk:  It's not quite what you asked about but I've been using ipCop (a firewall distro) on an old 486 box and I have been very happy with it as a firewall
[11:11] <dabaR> I have to understand what you need to do to implement a solution.
[11:11] <root_> ljl...yeah... thats all fine and dandy... cept there is no difference once you do a su... if you delete something... its still gone... you log into mirc with it your stil root
[11:11] <tsoler> i know the coordinates for the points but need to finf an easy way to pass the coordinates to google map
[11:11] <J_P> hi all
[11:11] <Rug> I have to run.  TTYL
[11:12] <root_> there is no difference other then your inital uid... once you su, your root.
[11:12] <LjL> root_: which is precisely why you should *not* *ever* log into IRC as root.
[11:12] <LjL> root_: only in the shell you issued su in.
[11:12] <tsoler> do u stiil want the shape file???
[11:12] <dabaR> tsoler: well, postgis is accessed through postgresql.
[11:12] <fuoco> OoberMick: it doesn't playh
[11:12] <dabaR> tsoler: sure, yes.
[11:12] <Juan___> Could anyone ssh my machine and tell me if it does work ?
[11:12] <dabaR> tsoler: I want to see what format the data you need to work is in.
[11:12] <Agrajag> you should also not ever refer to IRC as "mirc", but hey
[11:13] <LjL> oh, i almost missed that one
[11:13] <tsoler> you ll have to wait for a while
[11:13] <OoberMick> fuoco: and the sound works in the original video?
[11:13] <fuoco> OoberMick: yes
[11:13] <dabaR> tsoler: sure.
[11:14] <anto9us> Juan___, yes, it gives password prompt
[11:14] <root_> mirc irc... im used to windows
[11:14] <fuoco> OoberMick: for example: mplayer -vo null -ao alsa /media/cdrom0/Bach.mov with that i hear the sound
[11:14] <dabaR> tsoler: let's move to #postgresql; /j #postgresql
[11:14] <Juan___> anto9us: thank you !
[11:14] <tsoler> are u a gis familiar dabar?
[11:14] <LjL> root_: it shows.
[11:14] <tsoler> ok
[11:14] <OoberMick> fuoco: but with pcm it doesn't work
[11:15] <root_> tsoler: we use arcgis at work
[11:15] <root_> you will be ok ljl
[11:15] <fuoco> OoberMick: with the same file ? the video file? it plays but there's no sound
[11:15] <lostsync> if i use the same login and /home is on it's own drive, formatting / and reinstalling from scratch will retain all of my settings/documents/etc and apply them to the new account with the same name, right?
[11:15] <LjL> lostsync: no
[11:15] <Agrajag> lostsync: only if your UID stays the same
[11:15] <LjL> lostsync: Linux doesn't use the username internally, it uses a number
[11:16] <Nutubuntu> Question about mplayer: Is there a way to resize the mplayer video display window? It seems that when I enlarge the window, the display itself does not scale up. Can I change that behaviour?
[11:16] <anto9us> Juan___, keep an eye on your /var/log/auth.log, grep for ssh
[11:16] <Agrajag> lostsync: if you are the only use on the system, that will probably work; otherwise you'll have to go in as root and chown everything
[11:16] <OoberMick> fuoco: I'm stumpted, try asking on #mplayer
[11:16] <fuoco> OoberMick: ok thx
[11:16] <lostsync> i'm only concerned with the account that is created during the install
[11:16] <Juan___> anto9us: why ?
[11:17] <Agrajag> lostsync: most likely, that accoutn will be given the same UID.
[11:17] <LjL> lostsync: that usually has ID 1000
[11:17] <Agrajag> lostsync: you'll probably be fine
[11:17] <anto9us> Juan___, will tell you of anyone brute forcing it
[11:17] <lostsync> okay
[11:17] <root_> Juan___: because you will have more people trying to brute force your username and password with an open ssh port then people trying to hack windows on a daily basis
[11:17] <LjL> shouldn't be a worry, unless one has a weak password.
[11:17] <lostsync> dist-upgrading to edgy killed my apache2...hoping an install from the alt cd will work
[11:18] <lostsync> time to find out
[11:18] <Juan___> anto9us & root: aha. Thx.
[11:18] <pike_> Nutubuntu: mplayer -vo xv filename if that fixes it then gksudo gedit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf find the line that says vo=whatever and change to xv
[11:19] <anto9us> Juan___, firewalling with dns is useful, anyone can get a free dns
[11:19] <zapzap> hi
[11:20] <igypsy> yo
[11:20] <jbinder> ONE DAY LEFT
[11:20] <jbinder> !schedule
[11:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:20] <zapzap> Is someone can explaint to me hox to speed up printing
[11:20] <jbinder> zapzap: do you speak english?
[11:20] <loonix> ok I need some help here. Does anyone know where I can gt a precompiled fretype version with the BCI enabled? I cannot use Linux with authinter, it makes my eyes bleed
[11:21] <zapzap> jbinder:  not very well
[11:22] <robbbb> anyone know how to stop stuff apearing on the desktop (like cd drives etc) in gnome?
[11:23] <sampo_v2> how can i get the proper clearlooks theme engine in 6.10rc ?
[11:23] <zapzap> jbinder: i find how to printing with a good speed with my p111 500mhz on ubuntu !
[11:23] <alekz> hi, at what gmt time will be edgy released ?
[11:23] <LjL> !edgyfinal | alekz
[11:23] <ubotu> alekz: We do not yet know at precisely what time of the day Edgy will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:23] <Rugmonster> Afternoon all.
[11:23] <ivoks> rush hour again? :)
[11:23] <alekz> thanks =)
[11:23] <loonix> so nobody here us using fretype with bytecode intepreter enabled?
[11:23] <SirKillalot> :P
[11:23] <zapzap> jbinder: can u help me ?
[11:23] <jbinder> i dont think so
[11:24] <jbinder> its hard to understand your english, zapzap
[11:24] <SirKillalot> will my update manager recognize that I will have to update from edgy beta to final? or do I have to edit the sources.list?
[11:24] <Rugmonster> Anyone know about why Cyrus 2.2 under Edgy would be giving the following error? incorrect version of Berkeley db: compiled against 4.3.29, linked against 4.4.20
[11:24] <LjL> SirKillalot: it will do that automatically
[11:24] <BlueEagle> is it just me or is alien.ssl.berkeley.edu down?
[11:25] <LjL> SirKillalot: you're not using the beta any longer, anyway, if you updated. you're using the release candidate + some further updates.
[11:25] <hybrid_> could someone help me with sound on edgy ?
[11:25] <hybrid_> :E
[11:25] <GhostFreeman> Ok, so I decide to install a new application through add/remove apps, and when I try to run it from the Applications menu, it tells me "(No such file or directory)"
[11:25] <jbinder> hybrid_: whats wrong
[11:25] <LjL> !edgy | hybrid_
[11:25] <ubotu> hybrid_: edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[11:25] <hybrid_> 
[11:25] <lando> When i install edgy on my second partition so that it doesnt screw up my 3rd partition which is mounted to home. do i have to delete the hidden folders in my home so new config files can populate there without it messing up?
[11:25] <hybrid_> ok
[11:25] <anto9us> zapzap, have you tried the driver settings for your printer? Try lower quality printing
[11:25] <StephenL> !schedule
[11:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:26] <jbinder> hybrid_: hi
[11:26] <ZirJoker> there is a program that allows you to put a floating "panel" with some shortcuts to programs and stuff
[11:26] <ZirJoker> does anyone knows its name?
[11:26] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell lando about edgy
[11:26] <jbinder> ubotu: hi
[11:26] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:26] <jbinder> ubotu: poo
[11:26] <StephenL> Zirjoker: maybe gdesklets?
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <ZirJoker> xd
[11:26] <jbinder> ubotu: meh
[11:26] <ZirJoker> i tought so...
[11:26] <LjL> !msg the bot | jbinder
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about meh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <ubotu> jbinder: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[11:26] <BlueEagle> !abuse
[11:26] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:27] <BlueEagle> !botabuse
[11:27] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[11:27] <Nutubuntu> pike_ thanks - got it :)
[11:27] <zapzap> anto9us: my settings are the same setting than on MDK or RH
[11:27] <windshear> onyone knows if there is a gui for vpnc under gnome?
[11:27] <zapzap> anto9us: the driver is epson c84 + gimprint
[11:28] <windshear> i know there is kvpnc for kde
[11:28] <bdragonmsl> which is better, suse or ubuntu??
[11:28] <maccam94> how do i get mono listed in pkg-config?
[11:28] <alekz> i have a problem, when i start my computer after de grub lauches ubuntu, i just got a black screen, after several minutes i just see the ubuntu's login screen, how can i fix that ?
[11:28] <BlueEagle> !info kvpnc
[11:28] <ubotu> kvpnc: KDE frontend for various VPN clients. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2.1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1103 kB, installed size 3256 kB
[11:28] <anto9us> zapzap, is it slow on all applications or just a particular one?
[11:28] <windshear> ubuntu, suse always has been buggy for me
[11:28] <krazykit> bdragonmsl: um.  asking an ubuntu channel is not gonna be unbiased.
[11:28] <maccam94> bdragonmsl: when i used suse 9.1 i hated it, but i have liked gentoo and ubuntu (i'm not a KDE guy btw)
[11:28] <maccam94> krazykit: ditto
[11:28] <W_McL> also suse hides config files in unusual places
[11:29] <zapzap> anto9us:  on all
[11:29] <LjL> alekz: try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and select the VESA driver and a low resolution. see if that helps (but then try to find out what the actual problem is, using VESA is not precisely the best thing to do)
[11:29] <Lam_> bdragonmsl: they're free. try both and see which you like
[11:29] <bdragonmsl> I'm just having a hard time deciding.  I have used ubuntu, but can't get compiz to run, on suse I can, but ubuntu has a ton more apps available
[11:29] <maccam94> so,  how do i get mono listed in pkg-config? i'm trying to manually compile some plugins for banshee and it can't find mono even though it's installed :-\
[11:30] <loonix> this has to be the worse excuse for a support channel EVER
[11:30] <LjL> !compiz > bdragonmsl
[11:30] <alekz> thanks LjL
[11:30] <mikm[laptop] > loonix Sorry :|
[11:30] <bdragonmsl> Lam_, I've done that and can't really decide.  So I'm looking for other reasons to decide
[11:30] <maccam94> bdragonmsl: i've got beryl/xgl working on an ati radeon 9600SE.... you probably just need to find the right guide ;-)
[11:30] <zapzap> anto9us: and principaly on openoffice
[11:31] <LjL> !attitude | loonix
[11:31] <ubotu> loonix: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:31] <bdragonmsl> yeah, have a 7900 gt nvidia card and neither of the 2 recognized it.  But Suse allows me to use it
[11:31] <maccam94> bdragonmsl: ah, well are you using edgy or dapper?
[11:31] <bdragonmsl> maccam94, I tried both
[11:31] <maccam94> edgy has AIGLX built in, which works well with nvidia, so beryl or compiz should be easy...
[11:32] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell loonix about abuse
[11:32] <bdragonmsl> maccam94, maybe I'm just retarded with ubuntu
[11:32] <anto9us> zapzap, did you have gimp-print drivers on other distributions or binary ones?
[11:32] <zapzap> anto9us: with Gimp the speed is ok but my prob come with openoffice !!
[11:32] <watson540> hrm edgy has default aiglx?! what about all us ati users?
[11:32] <zapzap> anto9us: gimpprint
[11:33] <BlueEagle> loonix: I am sorry that I didn't catch your question the first time. However an outburst like that makes me really not want to help even if I know the answer.
[11:33] <LjL> watson540: you can use XGL i suppose.
[11:33] <anto9us> zapzap, check abiword to see how quickly that prints
[11:33] <pike_> watson540: all five of you? :)
[11:33] <watson540> hah pike_
[11:33] <zapzap> anto9us: ok
[11:33] <watson540> hey my card is getting quite dated anyway,,
[11:33] <maccam94> bdragonmsl: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.29
[11:33] <LjL> besides, the nvidia driver that's shipped with edgy does *not* support the functions needed for compiz or beryl, so you'd have to get the beta driver even with nvidia
[11:33] <robbbb> whats the easiest way of getting videos working properly with all the codecs?
[11:33] <LjL> !multimedia > robbbb
[11:34] <lupine_85> booo hoooo, my dapper laptop is refusing to boot after suspend died on me :(. Anyone got any ideas?
[11:34] <loonix> BlueEagle: meh. hundreds of people in a support channel and very litle by way of support. This is why Microsoft never has to worry about being anything less than totally dominant on the desktop
[11:34] <maccam94> bdragonmsl: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Beryl.2FAIGLX_.28Nvidia.29 would probably be easier though
[11:34] <Lam_> loonix: so go use Windows.
[11:34] <lupine_85> loonix: and of course, microsoft provide free support... ;)
[11:34] <watson540> loonix:: hah, thats funny
[11:34] <zapzap> anto9us: i return after apt-get
[11:34] <watson540> loonix:: what do you expect for umm, FREE?
[11:34] <krazykit> loonix: keep in mind that many people idle.  if you don't like it, don't use it.  freedom of choice.
[11:34] <maccam94> loonix: so what's wrong with your ubuntu btw?
[11:35] <W_McL> troll food, $3 per box!
[11:35] <pike_> loonix: likely no on here has your specific setup.  ive found ubuntuforums best for more detailed questions
[11:35] <lupine_85> you could always buy a canonical commercial support contract if it's that much of a problem for you
[11:35] <Lam_> loonix: not all problems have an answer that everyone knows off the top of their head either.
[11:35] <LjL> loonix, those thoughts might have a grain of truth, but they're best brought to #ubuntu-offtopic for discussion
[11:35] <charle97> loonix, have you tried the forums
[11:35] <charle97> ?
[11:35] <watson540> why bother ljl, he's a troll
[11:35] <loonix> maccam94: A fairly simple question, i simply wondered if anyone here knows anywhere hosting a BCI enabled version if freetype. The autohinter produces output that is utterly unsable forme personally
[11:36] <watson540> to dumb to google stuff..
[11:36] <LjL> i bother because everybody's replying and polluting the channel. take it to -offtopic.
[11:36] <bruenig> Does october 26, mean midnight on october 26?
[11:36] <LjL> !ef | bruenig
[11:36] <ubotu> bruenig: We do not yet know at precisely what time of the day Edgy will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:36] <kmaynard> ha
[11:36] <bruenig> I am patient ubotu, gees, just asking
[11:36] <lupine_85> loonix: is that a compile-time option?
[11:36] <loonix> lupine_85: Go to a Microsoft channel and you will find the quality and coherence of the support to be very high
[11:36] <poningru> rofl
[11:37] <rlared> anyone know how i can make it so dmesg doesn't report firestarter events?
[11:37] <javiolo> hi
[11:37] <krazykit> lupine_85: yeah, it's compile time.  not included for legal reasons, iirc
[11:37] <lupine_85> if so, then apt-get source freetype and go from there
[11:37] <maccam94> loonix: got your fix right here i believe: http://jaganath.wordpress.com/2006/07/16/ubuntu-install-log-6-finally-os-x-like-font-rendering-in-linux/
[11:37] <javiolo> is there any wifi network manager for ubuntu ?
[11:37] <krazykit> javiolo: iwconfig
[11:37] <poningru> javiolo: yeah dude its installed by default
[11:37] <charle97> loonix, http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/Font-HOWTO
[11:37] <Nutubuntu> ahh ... bruenig  ... ubotu's a bot ... you might be able to get a better answer over in #ubuntu+1, though I certainly can't guarantee that
[11:37] <javiolo> but it supports wpa ?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> loonix: i think your attitude has lost you most chances of getting help. and you are starting to look like a troll to me. Please change your attitude if you expect to get help in here
[11:37] <lupine_85> javiolo: that's wpa
[11:37] <lupine_85> erm, wpa_supplicant
[11:38] <lupine_85> the gnome network manager should be able to do this sort of thing automagically for you
[11:38] <loonix> maccam94: Not quite, it does not use the BCI, rather some patch to the subpixel rendering.
[11:38] <maccam94> loonix: apparently you don't need to do step 4, as the author states at the end of the tutorial
[11:38] <maccam94> Update : Turns out that Mac uses byte code interpretation to achieve this font rendering. The fontconfig that we do in the above steps turns on BCI in freetype too. Hence the similar rendering effects. Because of this, you dont need to install Turners patches - so ignore step 4.
[11:38] <anto9us> rlared,  dmesg | grep -v firestarter
[11:38] <kmaynard> can we turn down the suck in here?
[11:38] <javiolo> krazykit is it easy to setup iwconfig ?
[11:39] <lupine_85> !wifi
[11:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:39] <lupine_85> not really
[11:39] <rlared> i want firestarter to not report all its events to the system log
[11:39] <krazykit> javiolo: iwconfig is CLI.  it's pretty easy.
[11:39] <rlared> anyone know how to do that?
[11:39] <loonix> maccam94: yes, the author is a bit of a loon. What he is describing cannot magically turn the BCI on as unless the compile flag is set it wont be there
[11:40] <javiolo> krazykit the one that comes with ubuntu/gnome doesnt work with some networks...
[11:40] <maccam94> loonix: i think that's what dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig does... that's the only step you really need to do apparently
[11:40] <darkyoshi372> Hi all, what's easier: Upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10, or from 6.10
[11:40] <LjL> loonix: some googling i've done seems to be implying that ubuntu comes with BCI compiled in, however
[11:40] <darkyoshi372> RC to stable?
[11:40] <zapzap> anto9us: same speed on abiword
[11:40] <krazykit> javiolo: no, iwconfig works fine.  it's NetworkManager that doesn't.
[11:41] <loonix> LjL: Hmm, can't see it as it is heavily patent encumbered. Nobody seems to know for sure what xactly is eanbled in ubuntu freetype
[11:41] <javiolo> krazykit how about network-manager-gnome ?
[11:41] <javiolo> !java
[11:41] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:42] <krazykit> javiolo: i dunno.  i don't use the gui tools.
[11:42] <{_-IcE-_}> is it possible to stop and restart my X session through ssh pls?
[11:42] <krazykit> javiolo: i've found that writing my own scripts was easier.
[11:42] <BlueEagle> loonix: First off: "I need some help here" is NOT a nice way to ask. Second: !anyone. Third: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-178737.html (search for BCI)
[11:42] <pike_> {_-IcE-_}: i think most people use the init script like sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:43] <zapzap> anto9us: it s like if the buffer become empty too fast before print the reste of the page ? undertood ?
[11:43] <javiolo> krazykit ok thanks
[11:43] <FlimFlamMan> hi.  i already have python installed, but the deb file(s) aren't in /var/cache/apt/archives - how can i download the python .debs and the files they depend on?
[11:43] <{_-IcE-_}> pike_ : wow that worked, thanks a mill
[11:43] <anto9us> zapzap, sounds like a driver issue, gutenprint may be a better option
[11:43] <robbbb> how do i stop the mounted volumes appearing on my gnome desktop?
[11:44] <zapzap> anto9us:  can we increase a option buffer
[11:45] <lab> This is my first visit to #ubuntu -- using my first installation of ubuntu.  Anyone here?
[11:45] <anto9us> robbbb, I think there may be an option in gconf-editor | applications | nautilus
[11:45] <savvas> how many hours til the edgy release? ;)
[11:45] <lupine_85> so nobody's sure? It's really annoying - the -23 kernel freezes, and the -27 kernel doesn't progress past "Mount-cache hash table entries: 512"
[11:45] <LjL> lab: 974 people and bots here
[11:45] <robbbb> anto9us - thanks
[11:45] <lab> yes, but how many are alive!  :)
[11:45] <anto9us> zapzap, I'd try the gutenprint driver
[11:45] <lab> (as in, paying attention right now)
[11:45] <Ragga> hi, somebady speak spanish here ?
[11:45] <Nutubuntu> lab:   many - what's on your mind? savvas - about a day; better info over in #ubuntu+1, maybe?
[11:45] <lupine_85> none now ;)
[11:46] <lupine_85> !es
[11:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:46] <lupine_85> hmm, wonder if the edgy kernel would have better luck...
[11:46] <lab> anyone using chatzilla?
[11:46] <lab> I was wondering why my irc.freenode.net tab turns red once in a while.
[11:47] <LjL> !anyone
[11:47] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:47] <lab> Sorry, pretty darn new to both ubunto AND chatzilla.
[11:47] <visik7> LjL:  to be polite :)
[11:47] <LjL> lab: i believe it might be because people are mentioning your nickname
[11:47] <lab> ohhh, yup that did it
[11:47] <lab> interesting
[11:47] <lab> thx
[11:48] <LjL> lab: it's called own-nickname highlighting. most IRC clients have it.
[11:48] <lab> cool, thanks
[11:48] <adnans> arghl..
[11:49] <eyequeue> astrolabe
[11:49] <eyequeue> that mentions lab too, i'll bet :)
[11:49] <adnans> ubuntu 6.06 cannot detect my logical volumes (LVM) at installation time
[11:49] <stojance_> how do I install gnome-dock (gnomedock.org)? I tried but it says Floating point exception
[11:49] <Ragga> some another channel for help in spanish ?
[11:49] <eyequeue> !es
[11:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:49] <anto9us> adnans, try the alternate cd
[11:49] <lab> So my coworker and I just spend like 30 min trying to get sound to work on ubuntu -- the driver was loaded fine, but what we didn't know was that the mixer has both a "master volume" and a "master mono" which controls the internal speaker (which we were using).  Once we found it and turned it on, walla!
[11:49] <mae> how different will ubuntu/kubuntu final be from ubuntu/kubuntu rc
[11:49] <adnans> anto9us, alternate cd?
[11:50] <jbroome> walla?
[11:50] <LjL> mae: it won't be.
[11:50] <eyequeue> mae, some last minute bug fixes, and such
[11:50] <andrea_b> hi guys
[11:50] <mae> um
[11:50] <TheGateKeeper> mae: less bugs one would hope
[11:50] <mae> so which is the right answer
[11:50] <mae> LjL or eyequeue
[11:50] <anto9us> adnans, there's an alternate cd to the live cd, text based installer, it's needed for RAID or LVM
[11:50] <andrea_b> how can I desactivate an audio card?
[11:50] <eyequeue> mae, i've seen maybe 2 dozen packages in the past couple days roll though
[11:50] <adnans> auto9us, ah.. this is a whole other CD?
[11:51] <anto9us> adnans, yes
[11:51] <lab> Walla = Voil
[11:51] <eyequeue> mae, through
[11:51] <lab> its just how I say it
[11:51] <LjL> mae, both. it won't be different, because Edgy has been frozen since a while -- so same packages and same features. it definitely may have some more bugfixes.
[11:51] <adnans> I'm donwloading the server ISO now.. I would hope that one has LVM support :)
[11:51] <anto9us> adnans, yes, that will work :)
[11:51] <javiolo> what does sudo -s does ?
[11:51] <adnans> k, thx
[11:51] <lab> so I guess I picked the wrong day to install ubuntu -- the new one is coming out tomorrow?
[11:51] <jbroome> adnans: the alternate iso should work with lvm
[11:51] <LjL> javiolo: makes you root, while keeping the current user environment
[11:52] <stojance_> Can someone help?!
[11:52] <jbroome> no
[11:52] <TheGateKeeper> lab: you'll get the updates
[11:52] <adnans> I remember seeing LVM support in the server edition.. but didn't need it up till now
[11:52] <javiolo> LjL but i thought there was no root account...
[11:52] <LjL> lab: yes. however, Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) is a Long Term Support release, while the new one (Edgy, 6.10) is not.
[11:52] <adnans> planning on installing fresh ubuntu with xen
[11:52] <lab> oic
[11:52] <LjL> !root | javiolo
[11:52] <ubotu> javiolo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:52] <andrea_b> well, do you know how to desactivate an audio card under ubuntu?
[11:52] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone. I am looking for a solution to install Win in Linux with a virtualization software. Can some one point me to the right direction?
[11:53] <lupine_85> !qemu
[11:53] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[11:53] <jbroome> Zoohouse: vmware
[11:53] <toineb> hi all
[11:53] <lupine_85> !vmware
[11:53] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[11:53] <Zoohouse> jbroome: vmware is OSS? didn't know that
[11:53] <lab> !walla
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about walla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <withaY> !xen
[11:53] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[11:53] <LjL> Zoohouse: no it's not
[11:53] <lupine_85> it's free, but not Free ;)
[11:53] <lab> !voila
[11:53] <Zoohouse> ah
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about voila - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <lab> !bots
[11:53] <jbroome> i didn't see an OSS disclaimer in your query
[11:53] <LjL> !msg the bot | lab
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <ubotu> lab: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[11:53] <toineb> does anyone knows if next ubuntu version will come out tomorow ?
[11:54] <LjL> toineb: october 26, yes
[11:54] <lab> oh it warned me
[11:54] <lab> guess I'll lay off
[11:54] <toineb> ok thx no idea about hour :)
[11:54] <LjL> toineb: no
[11:54] <Zoohouse> thanks jbroome for the link
[11:54] <anto9us> lab, yes, don't play with the bot please, you're flooding the channel and it sends my eyes funny
[11:55] <toineb> well in about 5 minutes lol
[11:55] <lab> heh okay, sorry :(
[11:55] <eyequeue> toineb, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/601
[11:55] <Wiseguy> hey guys, when i try and print to my Deskjet D4160 in ubuntu it sends my printer into a fit... all of the lights start blinking rapidly and im forced to turn the printer off and on again to get it back, anyone know what this could be caused by?
[11:55] <Em3rald> so here's the deal, I uninstalled kdelibs-bin and all KDE things.  Installed gnome-desktop, and rebooted.  Now I no longer have network access, and I cannot install ubuntu-desktop with the CD-ROM in the repository.
[11:55] <eyequeue> toineb, and the release manager has said NOT at 0000 utc
[11:56] <toineb> lol ok i guess it but hard to wait
[11:56] <gnomefreak> eyequeue: afternoon UTC on the 26th is last i heard
[11:56] <LjL> look, guys, it's not a mars landing. it's a new release of a linux distribution. relax.
[11:56] <Em3rald> Is there a way to "repair" an ubuntu installatoin without removing the webserver?
[11:57] <charle97> i can't relax
[11:57] <charle97> and was there really a mars landing?
[11:57] <eyequeue> gnomefreak, yeah, that's consistent with the past too, i'm always impatient for 0000utc myself, even when i know better ;-)
[11:57] <anto9us> LjL, it's more exciting, there's life on Edgy Eft!
[11:57] <toineb> i cant relax becaus i ll launch my comp on mars wid that new version
[11:57] <lab> hrm whats the chat command to stop listing channels?  (it won't stop!)
[11:57] <gnomefreak> toineb: you will be notified when its released
[11:57] <LjL> anto9us: no, i've got no "life" package, and i have all repositories enabled.
[11:58] <gnomefreak> lab: thats why the warning is there
[11:58] <anto9us> LjL, alien?
[11:58] <charle97> lol, ljl
[11:58] <gnomefreak> lab: it tells you think twice before doin git
[11:58] <Code-E> how do i go to my computer in xubuntu
[11:58] <toineb> yeah i m just joking, thx guys for all this news
[11:58] <Noobie> hi, i have a question, is the kernerl, the one that comes with dapper, already patched with ska?
[11:58] <LjL> anto9us: that's death, not life.
[11:58] <azureal> is there a reason why apt-cache search produces many strange results, compared to aptitude search?
[11:58] <lupine_85> !life
[11:58] <lab> what warning
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <LjL> azureal: yes - apt-cache also searches in the package descriptions, while aptitude by default does not
[11:59] <charle97> code-e, do you mean a file manager?
[11:59] <lab> sorry, didn't see one :(
[11:59] <eyequeue> Code-E, if you are in xubuntu aren't you already on your computer?
[11:59] <Code-E> yes
[11:59] <Code-E> but where you can see the filesystem and the media drives
[11:59] <eyequeue> Code-E, then what are you asking?
[11:59] <azureal> LjL, dont you think it weird that an apt-cache search for firefox gives you openoffice.org?  lol
[11:59] <afonit> anyone know how to get a screenshot of the screen in a way that you can draw a box around the area on the screen to define the area?  (like on windows the program that can do this is called SnagIt)
[11:59] <andrea_b> how can I tell to debian to do NOT load a certain audio card? it's a modules.conf problem, I guess
[11:59] <eyequeue> Code-E, right click and choose an option
[11:59] <mighty_falcon> 1 more min?
[11:59] <charle97> seems like he's looking fro the file manager
[11:59] <Code-E> Right click where?!
[11:59] <Zoohouse> !vmware
[11:59] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[11:59] <charle97> on the desktop
[12:00] <eyequeue> Code-E, are you in a gui?
[12:00] <Code-E> xfce
[12:00] <lupine_85> andrea_b: blacklist the module
[12:00] <eyequeue> Code-E, right click there
[12:00] <Code-E> heh not allowing me too
[12:00] <lupine_85>  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist here
[12:00] <eyequeue> Code-E, it should.  miffle click perhaps?
[12:00] <Tidus> ok run up and click on applications... yes, the applications menu is on xfce as well
[12:00] <eyequeue> Code-E, it should.  middle click perhaps?
[12:00] <Code-E> Naw