[12:16] <nikon> goodbye all
[12:30] <MenZa> sweeet Burgwork
[02:13] <Burgwork> elkbuntu: you alive?
[02:13] <elkbuntu> temporarily. about to walk out the door
[02:14] <Burgwork> ah, no worries then
[02:16] <Burgwork> ok, I need an edgy user to copy the UWN back from gobby
[02:18] <Burgwork> bloody hell
[02:47] <Burgwork> ok, 19 out
[03:06] <MagicFab-away> most excellent, tx
[06:04] <Madpilot> Probably the final draft of the "Obey Ubuntu" 'street' poster: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/ObeyUbuntu5.png
[06:04] <Madpilot> comments?
[06:06] <poningru> yes very pretty
[06:07] <Madpilot> toned down the 'printing errors', added the white sketch lines
[06:09] <poningru> yeah perfect
[06:11] <Madpilot> need to check the license on the font I used, it's free-as-in-beer and I don't think there's any non-commercial type restrictions on it
[06:12] <Madpilot> font licensing is such a mess, even worse than software/documentation licensing in some ways
[06:16] <Madpilot> "Freeware" - guess that means I'm OK
[06:23] <MagicFab> Madpilot, I get a timeout
[06:29] <Madpilot> MagicFab, hmm, some people do - no idea why
[06:29] <Flannel> because you hate us
[06:29] <Madpilot> just a sec, I'll dump it on my imageshack account
[06:29] <Madpilot> Flannel, does it timeout for you too?
[06:30] <Flannel> Yeah, and did last night as well
[06:30] <Madpilot> strange
[06:31] <Madpilot> time to complain to my hosting company
[06:31] <Madpilot> http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=obeyubuntu5ii8.png
[06:32] <MagicFab> very nice ;)
[06:32] <MagicFab> err... :)
[06:33] <Madpilot> what, the ;) habit?
[11:44] <cj2003> hi folks
[11:46] <cj2003> hmmm......good luck with the shipment of 6.10 :-)
[11:47] <cj2003> once you've survived that, i would appreciate sone response on my offer given on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-marketing/2006-October/001171.html
[11:48] <cj2003> a "no thanks, go away" is absolutely also accepted, but some kind of feedback would be nice
[12:04] <lloydinho> Hi Christian,
[12:04] <lloydinho> ehh. cj2003
[12:05] <cj2003> haha, no problem - after all it is my name :-)
[12:05] <lloydinho> Read your mail, and remember you posting fairly regularly on sounder
[12:05] <lloydinho> But really, the marketing team doesn't actually deal with the website as such.
[12:06] <lloydinho> And the "in the press section" on the website is more pointed towards enterprise stuff, I think.
[12:06] <cj2003> my thought was to have more articles from the web in the "in the press"-section of UWN
[12:06] <lloydinho> ah.
[12:07] <cj2003> they might be, I haven't looked that much into what they referred to but more to the number of them
[12:07] <lloydinho> Okay. Actually, you can just add those to the wiki page for that week's UWN.
[12:07] <lloydinho> But I guess you want something more automatic.
[12:07] <cj2003> and if that is the case, then it's ok as they then choose the news items from other criterias than i do for bebian-news
[12:07] <cj2003> oh, yes ;-)
[12:08] <cj2003> that's why I don't post so often to sounder as I used
[12:08] <cj2003> haha, just discovered that we could speak Danish to eachother, but that would be a bit silly in here
[12:09] <lloydinho> I think, for the sake of the logger and posterity, they prefer it if we speak english.
[12:09] <lloydinho> ... but yes, we could just as well speak Danish :-)
[12:10] <cj2003> but yes - I was looking for somewhere to ship an automated email to so they (you) could grab some news there
[12:10] <cj2003> in case you missed something for the UWN
[12:11] <lloydinho> Yes. There's no such place at the moment.
[12:11] <lloydinho> But what you can do I guess is suggest it to the Fridge.
[12:11] <lloydinho> they have a mailing-list where they accept news suggestion, much like slashdot.
[12:12] <lloydinho> I'm sure that they wouldn't mind the extra traffic, and some of it could easily spill back onto the UWN that way.
[12:12] <lloydinho> Try joining #ubuntu-fridge and see if you can find somebody there who might be interested.
[12:13] <cj2003> ok, I'll try that
[12:14] <cj2003> thanks
[12:15] <lloydinho> no problem. :-)
[03:36] <poningru> the edgy release notes...
[03:36] <poningru> opensearch.png
[03:39] <nikon> hello all
[03:43] <poningru> ello ello
[03:45] <poningru> elkbuntu: ping
[03:45] <poningru> can you help me find that opensearch.png
[03:45] <elkbuntu> uh...
[03:45] <elkbuntu> the who the what now?
[03:45] <poningru> XD
[03:45] <poningru> in edgy release notes
[03:45] <poningru> there is an attachment missing
[03:46] <elkbuntu> what format is it?
[03:46] <poningru> opensearch.png
[03:46] <elkbuntu> oh, on the wiki?
[03:46] <poningru> I remember putting one up for a alpha/beta release
[03:46] <poningru> yeah
[03:48] <poningru> nm I got it
[03:48] <poningru> it was in the beta
[03:48] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=OpenSearch.png
[03:52] <poningru> elkbuntu: can you fix it?
[03:53] <poningru> I for whatever reason cant login
[06:57] <YoussefAssad> hello
[06:58] <Burgwork> hey YoussefAssad
[06:58] <Burgwork> elkbuntu: ubuntucounter is being punished
[06:59] <elkbuntu> heh, so it is
[07:06] <elkbuntu> Burgwork, is hoary EOL today as well?
[07:06] <jenda> why is it being punished?
[07:06] <jenda> overcrowded?
[07:07] <elkbuntu> i blogged and it went to planet and its now going a wee bit slow
[07:07] <jenda> aha
[07:08] <Burgwork> elkbuntu: yes
[07:08] <Burgwork> we are better than FC
[07:08] <Burgwork> who pulled their entire infrastructure
[07:08] <elkbuntu> huh?
[07:09] <Burgwork> redhat pulled down their wiki, everything
[07:09] <elkbuntu> o.O
[07:09] <Burgwork> now they are claiming 10,000 downloads in the first day
[07:10] <elkbuntu> heh
[07:11] <Burgwork> first 5 hours, rather
[07:12] <elkbuntu> rpm usage must do that to one's brain... they need health warnings for those things :
[07:16] <poningru> yeah
[07:16] <Burgwork> yum is death
[07:17] <elkbuntu> no.. i believe death would be nice in comparison
[07:17] <YoussefAssad> why is yum death?
[07:18] <YoussefAssad> Sorry, new team member :) Trying not to lurk
[07:18] <elkbuntu> because .deb pwns all :)
[07:18] <elkbuntu> .deb and apt :)
[07:18] <Burgwork> YoussefAssad: extremely slow, very buggy
[07:20] <YoussefAssad> that wasn my experience. But anyhow
[07:22] <elkbuntu> well.. ubuntu rocks so hard that we might be a tiny bit biased.. could resulting in slight exaggerations ;)
[07:24] <YoussefAssad> elkbuntu: of course
[07:24] <YoussefAssad> elkbuntu: I just thinking that it good for a marketer to be able to fall back on more technical arguments
[07:25] <Burgwork> yum is considerably younger and less mature technology than apt
[07:25] <Burgwork> it shows
[07:25] <YoussefAssad> Burgwork: Yep.
[07:26] <YoussefAssad> Burgwork: from what I saw, dependency resolution worked reasonably well. But yes, it was slow. And the mirror architecture was b0rked, I couldn update the system
[07:26] <Burgwork> yep
[07:26] <Burgwork> my FC4 boxen at work at borked