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Code-Enothins happenin12:00
azurealstill i think i think  apt-cache search > aptitude search12:01
LjLazureal, not really, firefox is mentioned if you do "apt-cache show openoffice.org", that's while it gets a hit12:01
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LjLazureal, not really, aptitude's search is way more flexible.12:01
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azurealLjL, i dont like the big space before the descriptions start12:01
Code-E:s12:02
labI'm trying ubuntu because I played with the Windows Vista beta and was thoroughly disgusted (I've never used a linux desktop before).  You guys think I'll be able to switch over permanently?12:02
kelbizzleof course12:02
charle97lab, do you play games?12:02
stojance_YES12:02
labYes12:02
azurealdual boot!12:02
charle97then No12:02
anto9uslab, myself and many others already have12:02
labThats one of the ones i was worried about12:02
Zoohousejbroome: "Firstly you need to buy a license to use the VMWare software" Do I need to buy license before installing? Is it going to ask me for a key or something?12:02
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LjLazureal, you can use the "-F" option to decide the format of the output.12:02
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charle97lab, you'll need to dual boot12:02
=== lupine_85 plays games and only has ubuntu
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kelbizzleTrue Combat Elite is the Best FPS in the worls12:03
kelbizzlefor linux12:03
lupine_85it depends on the sort of games you like, I guess12:03
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labI dont' play *serious* games just like Starcraft, the old CS 1.6 (half life 1) and Diablo II.12:03
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taslavardoes anyone still play True Combat?12:03
labNo oblivion or WoW12:03
Wiseguyyou can still play most if not all of those with cedega12:03
charle97lab, you may be able to use wine for those12:03
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azurealah, ok thx i'll look into it, LjL12:03
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jbroomeZoohouse: the player shouldn't require any activation12:03
kelbizzleyes the new version just came out12:03
labhrm12:03
kelbizzle.4912:03
sidny4rar12:03
lupine_85cedega and wine play many games12:03
charle97lab, wine is a like an emulator12:03
labI'm just scared -- i'm soo...comfortable...in windows12:04
azurealLjL, because i definitely prefer aptitude install and remove over apt-get12:04
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Zoohousejbroome: and Ill be able to run win with the player right?12:04
taslavarcool, i thought it had died12:04
sidny4cedega does an ok job playing games12:04
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lupine_85so was my partner - until she actualy got into linux :)12:04
Ekinoksbye bye12:04
lupine_85now she's a raving addict12:04
kelbizzlecan anyone help me12:04
LjLazureal: note that the auto-removal feature will be there even in apt-get, in Edgy12:04
sidny4not as good as windows though12:04
labcedega vs wine -- I understand what wine is, but what's cedega?12:04
LjL!cedega | lab12:04
ubotulab: cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega12:04
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charle97lab, use the livecd or a separate partition to test ubuntu12:04
lupine_85cedega is wine + some DX9 stuff12:04
labah thx12:04
lupine_85+ a GUI interface12:04
kelbizzlepretty please12:04
sidny4lab, cedega is a version of wine, it used to be called winex12:04
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taslavarI'm having trouble getting my iBook G3 to boot from a USB flash drive, it's not getting past the ofboot.b "Loading second stage bootstrap...", is anyone here familiar with getting yaboot to work with USB thumb drives?12:04
azurealLjL, i had a bad experience w/ updating to edgy beta... only if they would make the update process _not_ require ubuntu-desktop12:05
anto9usLjL, ahah, livecd!12:05
kelbizzlecan someone help me12:05
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charle97just ask your question kelbizzle12:05
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LjLanto9us, it's called a Desktop CD, not a "live" CD anymore.12:05
kelbizzleX didnt start up after installing and now I'm stuck at a login screen12:05
sidny4I prefer the alternative CD :D12:05
kelbizzle:-(12:05
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labI work where we have a lab, and have installed ubuntu on a machine in there, so I'm golden in terms of a trial, it's just I *really* know the ins and outs of windows (I was a desktop tech for a long time).  I know linux is the way to go and has enormous potential, but I'm just a total newb and hate to start at square one again.12:06
lnostdali've been playing WoW on plain wine under Ubuntu for about a year .. i'm now lvl56 -- hooray :)12:06
LjLthere is no such thing as an alternative CD. there is the Alternate CD, though12:06
charle97kelbizzle, what cd did you use to install?12:06
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sidny4kelbizzle, try logging in with your username/pw and then type startx12:06
ZoohouseDoesn't the vmplayer connect to the vmserver?12:06
kelbizzle5.1012:06
LjLZoohouse: no12:06
Zoohouseoh ok12:06
charle97kelbizzle, try startx12:06
Zoohouse:)12:06
kelbizzleI get a error12:06
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kelbizzlea big one12:06
lupine_85that won't help12:06
LjLZoohouse: they're two different products. the player doesn't allow you to create new virtual machines, but only to run them if you have them already. you can use sites such as http://www.easyvmx.com to create vms12:06
ZirJokerhow do i change the  permissions to 777 in a whole partition?12:06
azureallab, it's a big step, but you could always dualboot12:07
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ZirJoker!permissions12:07
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux12:07
maccam94did loonix ever get set up or did he leave/get kicked?12:07
LjLmaccam94: left12:07
Noobiehi12:07
stojance_CAN SOMEONE HELP12:07
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maccam94ah12:07
kelbizzlelet me see if I can sort trough the mess12:07
ZirJokerhow do i change the  permissions to 777 in a whole partition?12:07
lupine_85X failed to start becuse of an error somewhere - check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out why12:07
igypsylol12:07
lupine_85then fix it :D12:07
LjL!caps | stojance_12:07
ubotustojance_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.12:07
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maccam94stojance_: ...what's up?12:07
ZoohouseLjL: Sorry, what do you mean by  "create new virtual machines"12:07
stojance_I have trouble installing gnome dock, gnome-dock.org12:07
charle97kelbizzle, wait a day or two, download 6.10 and install it12:07
lupine_85!gnome-dock12:07
ubotugnome-dock is a MacOS X -like dock for the gnome desktop, see www.gnome-dock.org12:07
kelbizzlefatal server error: caught signal 4. server aborting12:08
lupine_85!info gnome-dock dapper12:08
Em3raldI am having trouble getting my dapper CD to be used by apt.12:08
ubotuPackage gnome-dock does not exist in dapper12:08
Noobiethe kernel that comes with dapper is already patched with skas mode?12:08
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KristeKHi! Who can help me about some mounts?12:08
labI swear though I'm going to have such a hard time detaching myself from the whole C: concept  :)12:08
stojance_Thank you, I allready know that12:08
azurealLjL, what's the "aptitude reference manual" ?  the man pages say to look at it =/12:08
LjLZoohouse, VMWare needs some files, in order to create an emulated environment: a configuration file, a virtual HD file, and some more.12:08
lupine_85lab: create a symlink known as /c:/ ;)12:08
charle97lab, read linux books .... that's what i did12:08
kelbizzleI tried the desktop cd that lept freezing at 26 percent12:08
lupine_85!alternate12:08
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.12:08
lupine_85use that instead12:08
anto9uslab, you should check out #ubuntu-offtopic for more general discussion :)12:08
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KristeK   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System12:09
KristeK./dev/hdb1               1        7298    58615703+  ee  EFI GPT12:09
LjLazureal: try http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/12:09
KristeKWhat is this System EFI GPT?12:09
stojance_!gnome dock12:09
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Em3raldgah ... this is so hopeless.  Well ... I'm freaking done folks.  webserver's down.  gotta go.  I hate being this ticked off.12:09
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stojance_!gnome-dock12:09
ubotugnome-dock is a MacOS X -like dock for the gnome desktop, see www.gnome-dock.org12:09
Zoohouse!Xen | Zoohouse12:09
ubotuZoohouse: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy12:09
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kelbizzlecould it be my graphics card in my laptop?12:10
kelbizzleI see radeon among the details somewhere12:10
stojance_I have really hard time installing it. I did all that was said in the site and IT DOESN'T WORK!12:10
LjL!msg the bot | Zoohouse12:10
ubotuZoohouse: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)12:10
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KristeKI've a second disk with 2 partitions formated has NTFS and need to mount it on ubuntu server12:10
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Zoohousesorry :)12:10
docmurquestion what is a good Text to Speech software for gnome12:11
Dr_willisKristeK,  thats doable.  for a user to access it you may need to alter the umask, or other options.12:11
PirHi. Can someone help me to config my graphics card (onboard SIS 661FX) in ubuntu dapper?12:11
zapzapanto9us: some news ?12:11
Dr_willisKristeK,  example from my fstab /dev/hda1 /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       112:11
LjLstojance_, be patient and perhaps somebody will be able to help you. i'm afraid most people here however aren't venturing into compiling experimental software from souce12:11
anto9uszapzap, did you try the gutenprint driver?12:11
maccam94stojance_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20098712:12
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lupine_85stojance_: cat INSTALL12:12
kelbizzlecan someone tell me how I check the log12:12
lupine_85follow the steps, ask if you have any specific questions12:12
tim__less /var/log/something12:12
stojance_I allready saw that conversation, forum!12:12
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stojance_cat install doesn't work eather12:13
charle97kristek, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14248112:13
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tim__It's kinda busy in here. Was hoping someone might be able to point me in some directions on getting mixing working on my machine. Anyone good in that field?12:14
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ZoohouseLjL: whats simplar to run: VMWare with easyvm or xen?12:14
zapzapanto9us: i run my priter with it and it s realy slown as i ve said !12:14
anto9uszapzap, you said you used gimp-print12:14
taslavarI'm trying to boot my iBook G3 from a USB thumb drive, but at "Loading second stage bootstrap" it just shows the flashing no-OS icon instead of loading yaboot. Is there anyone here who has managed to get this working who could help me? My yaboot.conf and generated ofboot.b are here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/oMWHir37.html12:15
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kelbizzleok I have the log up of why x didnt star t up12:15
charle97tim_, http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=913557512:15
zapzapanto9us: yes sorry iwould say gutenprint not gimpprint12:15
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anto9uszapzap, so you've tried both?12:16
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tim__ty charle9712:16
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judgenis there any good nes emulator or a good gui for fceu for linux?12:16
zapzapanto9us: yes on MDK, gimpprint12:16
soundraytaslavar: I tried this once with a Mac mini and failed. I heard by rumour that it is possible to install on a Firewire device, but not on USB.12:16
kelbizzlecould my video card be the reason x isnt starting up?12:16
KristeK2nd disk, with 2 ntfs partition, how to mount the 2 partitions on ubuntu server?12:16
englaedgy draws close? what's the forecast on release date?12:17
zapzapanto9us: but is gutenprint the new name of gimprint ?12:17
LjLZoohouse: vmware-player imho12:17
chaoticg33kI'm trying to save my prefrences on the wiki, but it  will not go. It just sits there with the cursor saying its loading, however if I fire up another tab I can navigate still. I've tried going around and seeing if the wiki is messed up but the prefrences page is the only place where it will not do anything. All I did was click save to save my prefrences.12:17
soundrayengla: still tomorrow12:17
LjLzapzap: yes12:18
anto9uszapzap, no, I don't think so12:18
englagreat12:18
zapzapanto9us: ups !12:18
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englasooner than I expect. and I that have so much other things to do12:18
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KristeKmount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/windows12:18
LjLanto9us: http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/12:18
Mad_Machi12:18
taslavarsoundray: OS X can't be booted from USB, but the Debian website has instructions for booting from a USB drive so..12:18
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KristeKwrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb112:18
Mad_Macwhen will be released edgy eft?12:18
LjLMad_Mac: october 2612:18
chaoticg33kreally12:19
Mad_Macdate and hour, at which hour?12:19
LjL!ef | Mad_Mac12:19
ubotuMad_Mac: We do not yet know at precisely what time of the day Edgy will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!12:19
soundraytaslavar: are those instructions for i386 or PPC?12:19
anto9uszapzap, I'm in error, sorry12:19
zapzapLjL: thanx12:19
taslavarsoundray: ppc12:19
zapzapanto9us: no pb12:19
Mad_Macthanks12:19
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ZombiekEI try to install something with aptitude but I get "302 moved temporarily" and an IP address, what can I do? I don't think it has really been moved... otherwise, how could I install this on my own?12:19
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xabarasanyone can help me for activate acceleration 3d in chipset Intel Graphics 212:19
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taslavarsoundray: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch04s04.html.en12:20
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Mad_Maci go to sleep12:20
soundraytaslavar: like I said, I stopped pursuing that option.12:20
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zapzapanto9us: but i really want to do my printing more quick12:20
Whatsisnameahh back in the channel12:20
xabarasanyone can help me for activate acceleration 3d in chipset Intel Graphics 212:20
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Whatsisnamehey I have a question for anyone that is familiar with the usual suite of text filters12:20
Whatsisnamefor a script12:21
taslavarsoundray: alright, i hope i'll have better luck :X12:21
KristeKHelp mounting 2nd windows disk drive!!!12:21
anto9uszapzap, see what other driver options are available in the drop down and try them12:21
compilerwriterCan anyone help me get a Palm Zire 21 to sync with ubuntu?12:21
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kitcheWhatisname what are you doign exactly12:21
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zapzapanto9us: is my pentium 500 too slown to construct pages during printing ?12:21
javiolothe wifi manager that comes with ubuntu supports wpa ?12:21
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zapzapanto9us: no other driver !12:22
anto9uszapzap, no, memory could be an issue but not processor speed12:22
compilerwriterI tried j-pilot but had issues I didn't know how to fix.12:22
Whatsisnamekitche, I have an application that outputs a bunch of tabular data, in human readable format, aka 12K instead of 125849 or whatever12:22
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zapzapanto9us: 512 mo12:22
WhatsisnameI'd like a nice filter I could pipe it all into that will reverse the human readable format, so I get 125499 instead of 12k and so forth12:22
zapzapanto9us: i think a buffer problem !12:22
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LjLzapzap: the english abbreviation is "Mb"12:23
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Bearcat1I'm running Xchat, and cannot figure out how to erase old chatlogs.  any help is appreciated12:23
DShepherdwow 949 already.. my gosh!12:23
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kitcheWhatisname: hmm not sure how to do that exactly12:23
WhatsisnameBearcat1, they are all just put in a big file, just delete them or trim them down or something12:23
Shamuraihello12:23
maelvinohi12:23
sith-lordhi12:23
zapzapLjL: my saver ;)12:23
compilerwriterCan anyone help me with the palm zire 21?12:23
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mandelumhello12:23
WhatsisnameI wish there was an option to disable or enable human readable format but there doesnt appear to be one12:24
Bearcat1Whatsisname, ty, but how do I do that?12:24
sith-lordunsure12:24
KristeKneed help mounting 2nd windows disk drive!!!12:24
maelvinoI'll think about it12:24
Shamurai??12:24
Bearcat1I know they are all in one big file12:24
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mandelumcould somebody help me please12:24
Whatsisnamedo you know how many lines you want to trim out?12:24
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Whatsisnameyou could just do12:24
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zapzapLjL: an id to resurb my pb ?12:24
soundraymandelum: no, you have to ask a support question first.12:24
Bearcat1Whatsisname, yes, all of them12:24
ZoohouseHow do I unlock the packaging sys?12:25
Bearcat1or most of them12:25
Whatsisnameif you want to blast them, just delete the log file12:25
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Whatsisnamexchat will create a new one12:25
dabaRtsoler: sudo aptitude install libxml2-dev libxslt1-dev libwxgtk2.6-dev libwxgtk2.6-0 libxslt1.1 libxml212:25
mandelumI am trying to install edgy eft on an older laptop but my cd does not seem to work and I seem to have a boot partition that is too small for an iso file12:25
Bearcat1I can't seem to find the delete12:25
Whatsisnameif you want to selectively delete blocks, I can give you a sed command that can do it12:25
LjLzapzap: sorry?12:25
WhatsisnameBearcat1, rm ~/.xchat/whereverthelogis12:25
Bearcat1I can I suppose highlight them and try my delete button12:25
Whatsisnamethe log files are named12:25
zapzapLjL: can u help me ?12:25
mandelumhow should I proceed to get grub to boot an iso from the home directory for example12:26
Whatsisnamealong the lines of server-#channel or something12:26
gnomefreakmandelum: please ask edgy related questions in #ubuntu+112:26
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anders9034hello i just instlled ubuntu using server command, and i can't log in as root because i don't have the password. i was never asked to type in the root password either :-(12:26
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WhatsisnameBearcat1, for example12:26
Whatsisnameif I was to delete my #ubuntu log12:26
WhatsisnameI would execute the command12:26
LjLzapzap: don't think, i print very little.12:26
soundrayanders9034: log in with your username then, and use sudo for system tasks.12:26
charle97anders, did you enter a password at any point of install?12:27
Whatsisnamerm ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/Ubuntuserver-#ubuntu.log12:27
judgenwhere is the kernel headers that is not sed located?12:27
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Whatsisnamechange the filename that fits your configuration12:27
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judgenwhere is the kernel headers that is not used located?12:27
Bearcat1Whatsisname, ty, from the 'terminal'  is there an equivalant to the DOS  dotprompt?12:27
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DShepherd!tell anders9034 about root12:27
anders9034soundray: no way am i going to do that, that means i would have to use sudo for everything12:27
soundraycompilerwriter: to have any chance to get help, you have to describe your problem.12:27
WhatsisnameBearcat1, what?12:27
zapzapanto9us: thanx for your help and see you ...12:28
LjLanders9034: and the problem is?12:28
Bearcat1let me try for a while, Whatsisname, I may be back, ty12:28
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soundrayanders9034: suit yourself, but don't expect me to help, then.12:28
anto9uszapzap, np, sorry I couldn't help solve it for you12:28
Whatsisnameok I guess12:28
DShepherdanders9034:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo . Check out that page12:28
kitcheanders9034: put a password on your root then it will enable root12:28
tsolerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28323/12:28
compilerwritersoundray I need to be told which software to get my zire 21 synced with ubuntu.12:28
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anders9034LjL: what the hell, i cant log in as root with ubuntu, you must be joking :-)12:28
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Whatsisnameanders9034, very few of your tasks require systemwide changes12:29
compilerwritersoundray I may need configuration help.12:29
tim__anders sudo su12:29
soundraykitche: don't give that advice, please. Ubuntu uses sudo for a reason.12:29
Whatsisnameif you need sudo all the time for day to day activites, you are doing something wrong12:29
tim__then make a root password12:29
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tim__then you can log in12:29
tim__using su12:29
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anders9034soundray: shut up12:29
LjLanders9034: no, i'm not. what do you feel that you might not be able to do, or might be able to do with more difficultty, with this kind of setup?12:29
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soundraycompilerwriter: I don't know, but I've seen a message about syncing with Palms somewhere. Search the forums?12:29
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Whatsisnameif you need root level for something because it is written retarded12:30
soundrayThanks gnomefreak ;)12:30
bdragonmslAnyone know of a good site that makes hp printer drivers??12:30
leakd n812:30
Whatsisnamethen perhaps you can use setuid12:30
gnomefreakhello is everyone missing the point that in your system tools menu there is a root terminal?12:30
gnomefreakuse it12:30
KristeKneed help mounting 2nd windows disk drive!!!12:30
Plukbdragonmsl, http://www.linuxprinting.org/12:30
Whatsisnamegnomefreak, I see no such thing12:31
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Whatsisnameoh well, sudo -i works12:31
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gnomefreakWhatsisname: use alacarte menu editor adn add it12:31
Whatsisnamemeh, no need12:31
gnomefreakits ther eits just hidden12:31
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anders9034sorry about that12:31
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mangojambohi people ... what time will be the ubuntu6.10 ready for download?12:32
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preactionsudo su - # also works nice12:32
SpaceFrogdoes anyone know how to turn off the middle mouse button's paste function? I keep accidentally pressing my scrollwheel down at work, and it's pasting my clipboard contents in every text field.12:32
Whatsisnamegnomefreak, are you part of the gnome project or do you just dig it12:32
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JosefKanyone know what port PostgreSQL listens for connections on by default?12:32
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gnomefreakmangojambo: in the next 24 hours maybe12:32
anders9034ok, so i should use sudo, but even so i need to have the root passord...12:32
preactionSpaceFrog, that's been an X feature for a while, dunno12:32
hubuntu_______hey guys... when is edgy eft coming out officially, anyone?12:32
LjLanders9034: why?12:32
gnomefreakanders9034: no usdo uses usr password12:32
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mangojambognomefreak: 24 from where? ;)12:32
kitcheanders9034: nope it's your user password12:32
LjL!ef | hubuntu_______12:32
Whatsisnamehubuntu_______, tomorrow, supposedly12:32
ubotuhubuntu_______: Edgy will be released on October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!12:32
joonaJosefK: grep Postg /etc/services12:32
soundrayanders9034: we got off to a bad start here. Let's try better.12:32
gnomefreakhubuntu_______: 24 hour or so12:32
anders9034gnomefreak: oh i see, nver really rtied sudo before12:32
gnomefreakmangojambo: it doesnt matter 24 hours for you is same as for anyone else12:33
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hubuntu_______in oslo is the 26th already :)12:33
JosefKjoona: unfortunately, it's not installed yet (scripting my edgy setup), but I'll give it a try (it's not inetd controlled, though?)12:33
preactionSpaceFrog, I believe in your Xorg.conf file you can specify a two-button mouse, but google is your friend on that one12:33
joonaah12:33
sidny4nope, it's only 23 hours for me :P12:33
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kitcheanders9034: it has it's pros and it's cons but how ubuntu is set up the cons are almost non-existant12:33
joonaJosefK: nope, its not12:33
LjLanders9034: then perhaps you could try and find out what it can do for you, rather than calling it retarded and tell people to shut up. you can do with sudo anything that you can do by logging into a root account, and just as easily.12:33
gnomefreakhubuntu_______: forget the date since everyone is on different time zones. the date 26th is an about date12:33
joonaJosefK: but /etc/services lists ports for all known services12:33
choosedeathhello12:33
anders9034kitche: i've heard lots of good things about ubuntu :-)12:33
JosefKah, cheers joona12:33
Whatsisnamekitche, I think I'll just do it ghetto style and just have a regex that replaces k with three 0's and m with 6 0's and so forth :)12:34
mangojambognomefreak: no ..  the 24hours from London are different the here in Brazil, 3 hours later here...12:34
choosedeathis anyone can help me about a grpic card problem in my dapper?12:34
gnomefreakmangojambo: 24 hours is 24 hours12:34
phaedrus44where can i find the ndiswrapper 1.8 .deb for ubuntu ?12:34
evil_monkeyhello, im running an upgrade (dapper to edgy through update-manager), download has just finished, it's now installing and upgrading packages.. but im getting a lot of messages like "setting locale failed, falling back to default C locale".. should i be worried?12:34
soundraychoosedeath: that depends on the problem. Pls describe12:34
anders9034soundray: sorry for yelling, i just got frustrated :-) shouldn't let it out on you12:34
gnomefreakmangojambo: your days are not 21hours long12:34
hubuntu_______i checked http://no-name-yet.com/meta-release which suggetsed that it may come around/before GMT 9.00... who knows12:34
elo23#quiz12:34
soundrayanders9034: very true ;)12:34
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gnomefreakhubuntu_______: in 24 hours12:34
bdragonmslPluk, thanks for the site.  I'll have to bookmark it.  They don't have my printer yet.12:34
preactionevil_monkey, unless you don't speak english, no12:34
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eck0hey12:35
Siph0ndoes it matter that im using WEP for my router? cause i still cant get my DWL-G630 card to work...12:35
eck0my mic will not work on TS and idea why?12:35
anders9034su12:35
KristeKneed help mounting 2nd windows disk drive!!!12:35
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evil_monkeypreaction: but why is it failing anyway? locale that fails is en_AU.UTF-812:35
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eck0su doesnt work anders12:35
kitcheeck0: somethign else could be using your sound12:35
Plukbdragonmsl, ah thats too bad, but 99% sure if they dont list your printer as supported there will prolly be no linux support at all12:35
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eck0you need to use sudo12:35
hubuntu_______phaedrus relax.. let it finish and restart. normally things go fine.12:35
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KristeKAm I talking to myself here?12:35
anders9034eck0: lol i typed on the wrong keyboard!12:35
choosedeathmy pb?  have a integrated graphic chip in my motherboard (sis661) but i don't have the 3D accelleration12:35
LjLKristeK: are you?12:36
mangojambognomefreak: ok... Einstein die with his filosofy: relativity ... lolol ... just kidding ...12:36
KristeKaparentely!12:36
eck0you need the linux drivers12:36
Em3raldOkay folks ... this is my last effort to rescue my webserver.  Please help me if you can.12:36
preactionKristeK, use the System > Administration > Disks dialog?12:36
KristeKLjL: Can you help?12:36
choosedeathyes, but i don't find the linux driver...12:36
KristeKubuntu Server!!!!12:36
KristeKno Gnome!12:36
preactionKristeK, man mount12:36
rc-1Em3rald: shoot, im no expert but ill try12:36
choosedeath'n I think there is no driver for it...12:36
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charle97kristek, http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=913551412:36
Em3raldI uninstalled all KDE things from it, installed gnome, and now my network card doesn't work.12:36
LjLKristeK: and the problem is?12:36
preactionif you're running a server edition, you need to know how to do this12:36
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rc-1Em3rald: did you try to reinstall your network card drivers?12:37
KristeKthe problem is the 2nd disk has 2 partitions!12:37
KristeKntfs partitions12:37
LjLKristeK: ...and?12:37
Em3raldrc-1:  having difficulty figuring out how to actually do that.12:37
KristeKand when I fdisk -l12:37
soundraychoosedeath: there is a package xserver-xorg-driver-sis -- not sure if it has accelerated 3D12:37
anders9034guys how does it work in ubuntu when i want to use services and service command is not found?12:37
preactionKristeK, so there should be two /dev/hdL# nodes12:37
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KristeKnope! Just one!12:38
preactionKristeK, where is it on your IDE cables? First cable? Second cable? Master/Slave?12:38
anders9034i know i chose the skinny install but hey12:38
KristeK. /dev/hdb112:38
rc-1Em3rald: k, so what network card do you have?12:38
kitcheanders9034: the services are done though inetd12:38
KristeKSlave!12:38
KristeKFirst Cable!12:38
choosedeathi have installer this package...and configure xorg server12:38
anders9034kitche: ok thanks12:38
Em3raldrc-1 it's an intel (machine is just rebooting now)12:38
FlimFlamManis it possible to install a second instance of python2.4 in another directory, and still use apt-get upgrade to upgrade it - separately from the regular copy of python?12:38
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KristeKfdisk show has system EFI GPT12:38
kitcheanders9034: look at /etc/inetd.conf to see how it looks12:38
Bearcatok, I'm pretty ignorant.  the only way I can even find my Xchat logs are to start a chat and go to preferences, and Open Data Folder.  this obviously isn't the way to delete a chatlog12:38
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preactionKristeK, please use the enter key less often. /dev/hdb has only 1 partition that it recognizes, but booting windows shows two partitions?12:39
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bdragonmslPluk, well, hopefully they will it's just a brand new wally-world printer.12:39
KristeKYep!12:39
gigivenola12:39
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hubuntu_______Em3rald... you meant trying gnome alone?12:39
choosedeathdo U know where there is a driver for this card?12:39
rc-1Em3rald: look under devices when its up, and see if you can get the model number, then google "<model number> driver ubuntu install" or something like that12:39
gigiveni'm looking for a ftp clint for debian12:40
Em3raldrc-1 okay thanks12:40
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Em3raldhubuntu__________ I'm not sure what you mean.12:40
woekelerelease day today :D12:40
woekeleyaaay12:40
gigivencon you help me?12:40
elo23filezilla12:40
rc-1Em3rald: np :) gl12:40
hubuntu_______neither am I.. just follow rc-1's advice :)12:40
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gigivenfilezilla?12:40
preactionKristeK, and fdisk /dev/hdb with the "p" command shows only one partition?12:40
Em3raldrc-1:  I have no Devices manager in my administration menu12:40
Bearcatcan someone walk me through erasing a chatlog in Xchat?12:41
elo23jep12:41
anders9034kitche: there's no such file  /etc/inetd.conf12:41
soundraychoosedeath: can you run glxgears?12:41
gigiventhks elo2312:41
woekeleBearcat, cant you just go to ~/.xchat and then find the log and delete it?12:41
elo23np12:41
preactionBearcat, Settings > Preferences > Logging > Open data Folder > delete what you want12:41
Em3raldnm I used lspci12:41
kitche!inetd > anders903412:42
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
BearcatI can't seem to get to xchat without actually booting the program, woekele12:42
rc-1Em3rald: oh, sorry get someone else to give you the command line for devices, sorry dont know alot about non-gui ubuntu :(12:42
choosedeathyes... but it don't give me some valor...but the thing don't turn12:42
preactionBearcat, cd ~/.xchat212:42
cotitohola viteh12:42
woekeleBearcat, you can go to your homedir, show hidden files.12:42
rc-1Em3rald: there should be a bash command to give you a list of installed devices tho12:42
Bearcatpreaction, from where to I type cd?12:42
woekeleand there should be an .xchat folder12:42
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woekelefrom the terminal Bearcat :)12:42
preactionBearcat, that's a terminal command, but woekele told you how to do it from nautilus12:42
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kitcheanders9034: see if it's installed though12:43
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Bearcatah ty woekele ty ty  I do know the blackscreen line commands12:43
jenocinanyone know how to check your version of ubuntu? uname -a don't show it :-\12:43
Em3raldrc-1 got the card, but man you should see the google list for it ugh ...12:43
Em3raldintel 82801BA12:43
BearcatI can probably do it from terminal12:43
kitcheBearcat: are you the one I know by chance?12:43
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dabaRthere are no real bear cats.12:43
Bearcatkitche, dunno, where might you have seen me?12:43
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anders9034kitche: no it's not12:43
Bearcatthere are real bearcats, they are an asian mammal12:43
soundrayjenocin: cat /etc/lsb-release12:44
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Bearcatgoogle it12:44
jenocinsoundray thanks12:44
choosedeathso, is anyone can help me?12:44
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kitcheBearcat: #sourcemage maybe?12:44
kitcheanders9034: ok you have to isntall it most likely then12:44
jenocinsoundray: yech... breezy badger still...12:44
Bearcatnope kitche must have been a different Bearcat12:44
soundraychoosedeath: try glxgears -printfps12:44
h3htimohey guys could someone help me with mapping a network drive?? im at college right now and i have it mapped in windows i just dont know how in linux!??! Thanks!12:45
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Bearcattc all ty for the help12:45
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rellisgentoo12:45
woekeleh3htimo, I think you should handle it like mounting a harddrive12:45
anders9034kitche: i see, what is the package manager called?12:45
choosedeathok, i test that now12:46
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h3htimowoekele, yeah, thats what i thot, im just not sure how12:46
choosedeathit's about 7012:46
choosedeathfps12:46
choosedeath:s12:46
preactionh3htimo, depends on what type of network drive12:46
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jenocinh3htimo: trying to mount in the console?12:46
anders9034kitche: apt-get?12:46
Em3rald@$#$@%! ... thats it.  I'm freaking wiping the whole (#(*&$ thing and starting from scratch.  What a severe SEVERE SEVERE FREAKING pain in the neck.  OOoooooohhhh I could break something.12:46
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h3htimojenocin, doesnt matter12:46
Em3raldbye12:46
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jenocinh3htimo: smb share?12:46
preactionh3htimo, i'm assuming since you can map it in windows, it's a smb share12:46
compilerwriterCan anyone talk me through getting a palm zire 21 to sync with ubuntu?12:46
h3htimopreaction, i dunno, it shows u how to manually do it in windows12:46
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preactionh3htimo, "it"?12:47
jenocinh3htimo: k i Got ya12:47
h3htimoi guess12:47
Raggaespaoll12:47
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dabaR!es12:47
soundraycompilerwriter: what has your forum search turned up?12:47
Raggaespaol12:47
jenocinh3htimo: use smbmount12:47
choosedeathand i only know that 70 is very low12:47
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ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:47
kitcheanders9034: or symnaptic12:47
Eysteinyop12:47
h3htimopreaction, there are steps on the site for us to manually mount it in windows12:47
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jenocinh3htimo: or mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test12:47
cartufercompilerwrite, i think ubuntu live cd comes with a pilot sync tool12:47
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preactionchoosedeath, uh... 60fps is indistinguishable from reality12:47
jenocinh3htimo: unless u want a fstab mount... thats a bit different12:47
h3htimojenocin, http://raphael.walsh.edu/p_drive/manual/index.html12:48
preactionchoosedeath, hell, your monitor refresh rate is probably lower than 70Hz (or FPS, whichever you prefer)12:48
h3htimocan you get to that link??12:48
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preactionh3htimo, cannot find server12:48
jenocinh3htimo: ditto12:48
preactionh3htimo, firewall issue, they don't want us looking at it12:48
choosedeathmy monitor is in 85Hz12:48
h3htimoaight12:48
jenocinhate it when they firewall good porn12:49
h3htimolet me put the steps in pastebin just a sec12:49
jenocin:-P12:49
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jenocinh3htimo: pastebin.jenotek.com12:49
preactionh3htimo, does it have a sort of //COMPUTERNAME/folder look to it?12:49
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h3htimopreaction, yeah12:49
jenocinh3htimo: think u gotta swap the slashes or double em up though12:49
choosedeathdo U know a drivers for the sis661?12:49
jenocinh3htimo: not sure in ubuntu atm... been jumping distros alot12:49
rc-1choosedeath: i think ubun defaults to lowest refresh lol12:50
compilerwriterNot much.12:50
preactionchoosedeath, that's the motherboard, not the gfx chip. find out who made the onboard gfx chip on that mobo. and onboard chips are not known for popping 100 fps12:50
h3htimojenocin, just a sec12:50
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jenocinh3htimo: as in \\\\testserver\\testshare12:50
compilerwriterI have found the zire 31.12:50
preactionjenocin, no12:50
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compilerwriterWhich forum are you talking about anyway?12:50
jenocinh3htimo: what error u getting12:50
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preactionh3htimo, Main Menu > Places > Connect to Server... should have Windows Share on it12:50
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scott_anyone know of a font that uses a backwards 3 with a little line above and below it for the & character?12:51
soundraycompilerwriter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77387 ?12:51
jenocinpreaction: not if he didn't install smb et12:51
h3htimoim posting the pastebin link12:51
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preactionjenocin, that's not in the default ubuntu install?12:51
choosedeathmmm... i give U the ref of the pc... acer SA8012:51
rjbhi, anyone else struggling with broadcom wireless on edgy?12:51
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jenocinpreaction: dunno, like I said I do a bunch of diff distros, just throwing stuff out there12:51
preactionchoosedeath, irrelevant. google is your friend.12:52
tapoxiAnyone know when Edgy will be released?12:52
Agrajagif you just need access to the share from your file manager, and you're using GNOME, you don't need smbfs12:52
preactiontapoxi, within a day12:52
LjL!ef | tapoxi12:52
ubotutapoxi: Edgy will be released on October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!12:52
Agrajagyou can mount it in GNOME's VFS through nautilus's connect to server... dialog12:52
choosedeathyes...in the acer' drivers page, there is not drivers for linux12:52
preactionAgrajag, that's what i'm trying to explain :p12:52
tapoxithanks. just curious.12:52
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compilerwriterNow how about the zire2112:54
soundraychoosedeath: is this a laptop?12:54
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gigiveni'm looking for a ftp client ubuntu12:54
h3htimopreaction, its loading lol12:54
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gigivenanyone?12:54
choosedeath SiS AGP Driver for MS Windows12:54
choosedeathSiS VGA Driver for MS Windows12:54
choosedeathnot a laptop12:55
DShepherdgigiven:  sudo aptitude search ftp | grep client12:55
jenocinchoosedeath: get a real chipset :-P12:55
preactionchoosedeath, you're whining about getting 70fps, get over it.12:55
choosedeathlol jenocin12:55
gigiven.......12:55
preactionit's an ONBOARD chipset, you are not going to get phenominal speeds12:55
compilerwriterThat and I am on 6.06 LTS.12:55
jenocinu should see the unichrome... it horrible12:56
preactionwhere's ubuntu's boot log?12:56
jenocinpreaction: dmesg ?12:56
soundraychoosedeath: the best solution might be to go and buy a cheap graphics card with an NVidia chipset.12:56
preactiondmesg has firewall messages and has gone past the point of allowing me to see the boot :'(12:56
DShepherdgigiven: try gftp12:56
choosedeathyes, i think so too soundray... but no money :s12:56
jenocinpreaction: /var/log/messages12:56
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Agrajagchoosedeath: from what I've heard about the SiS drivers, you're lucky to be seeing anything at all12:57
gigiventhks12:57
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preactionjenocin, thanks12:57
preactionguess it's just been a while since my last boot12:57
choosedeathok agrajag12:57
choosedeathso, no solution... :s12:58
soundraycompilerwriter: you've got to take to action and try it out, adapting what you find to your special situation as you go along. If you hit a snag, ask again. But nobody is going to hold your hand through the entire process.12:58
soundraycompilerwriter: here's another useful link: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html12:58
jenocinargh... any easy way to run an upgrade from breezy --> current?12:58
cartuferdoesn't ubuntu come with a palm sync app?12:58
LjL!upgrade > jenocin12:59
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jenocinLjL:I heard it wasn't too reliable to do an upgrade, at least a couple months back when I asked... has it gotten betteR?12:59
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chandI got unbuntu 6.0612:59
LjLjenocin: i don't know.12:59
RaV|Stranglercan someone tell me. what the alternative cd is for?12:59
chandWPA-PSK not working01:00
soundrayjenocin: upgrading to dapper is rock solid.01:00
preactionjenocin, my upgrade to dapper was ... okay...01:00
LjL!alternate | RaV|Strangler01:00
ubotuRaV|Strangler: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.01:00
AgrajagI've done upgrades all the way back to warty -> hoary01:00
soundrayjenocin: I would still suggest you backup your data and do a fresh edgy install.01:00
Agrajagnever had a problem01:00
chandHow to get wireless working. ALso internet does not conenct01:00
jenocink... Its a production machine... not really a chance to take it out for a long period of time to reconfig everything01:00
soundray!wireless | chand01:00
ubotuchand: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:00
Agrajagthe secret is not to use backports or other weird repositories01:00
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RaV|Stranglershould I do the alternative cd..If the desktop cd keeps freezing at 26%01:01
soundrayRaV|Strangler: sounds like a bad burn or fingerprint to me.01:01
chandwww.google.com resolving to 1.0.0.001:01
chandon my new installation01:01
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RaV|Strangleri did like 3 of em01:01
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RaV|Stranglerdownloaded 3 times also01:01
lupine_85RaV|Strangler: it's a ubiquity bug01:01
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lupine_85use the alt install cd01:02
cartuferchand, u got dhcp?01:02
RaV|Stranglernow one more question before I go01:02
chandyeah01:02
chandI can ping fine01:02
RaV|Stranglerwhy would the live cd work and x not startup after it's installed?01:02
cartuferdid it auto dhcp?01:02
chandit resolves when i ping www.yahoo.com01:02
chandyeah it did01:02
Siph0nif the Link light on my wireless card is lit up, but the activity light is not lit.... what does that mean?01:02
chandi set it to dhcp in netwrking menu01:03
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chandbut in friefox it  goes no where01:03
soundrayjenocin: installation will take less than an hour on a reasonably recent machine. If you have a backup of your breezy /etc/, configuration shouldn't take long, either.01:03
FujitsuRaV|Strangler: Who knows, but it happens in some strange cases.01:03
rjbanyone know about ndiswrapper on edgy?01:03
soundrayrjb: ask in #ubuntu+101:03
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RaV|Strangleralright thanks01:03
Fujitsurjb: #ubuntu+1 is the Edgy place (for the next few hours, at least)01:03
RaV|StranglerI'll take another crack at it.01:03
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chandAlso sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome01:04
rjbsoundray, thx01:04
chanddoes not work01:04
Fujitsu!doesn't work01:04
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ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.01:04
soundray!doesn't work | chand01:04
ubotuchand: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.01:04
soundray:) like that one01:04
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chandIt comes back and says package not found01:04
chandLooks for package dependicies and then fails with error not found01:05
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soundraychand: have you done a 'sudo apt-get update'?01:05
Noobiehi everyone01:05
chandtreid from add remove programs says hardware not suitable01:05
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chandno01:05
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Noobiei have a question about the kernel01:05
FujitsuNoobie: Go ahead.01:06
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chandi did it now and it is getting packages01:06
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printkNoobie: I have a poptart.  No need to declare what you have.  Just ask your question :)01:06
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Noobiethe kernel that comes with dapper is already patched with skas mode?01:06
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FujitsuNoobie: Is that UserModeLinux stuff?01:07
mae so01:07
Noobieyes01:07
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printkisn't skas mode a 2.4 kernel patch?01:07
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FujitsuNo, SKAS works on 2.6 as well...01:08
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triademy laptop freezes when I do ifdown on a wireless device. anybody ever see the same?01:08
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Fujitsutriade: what type of wireless device?01:08
linnuxxyi need a full resolution image of the ubuntu CD cover01:08
triadeusb asus with ralink chip01:08
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linnuxxywhere can i find it?01:08
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Fujitsulinnuxxy: Why? And this isn't really the best channel to ask/01:09
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britt_has anybody used mythtv? I was wondering how i should install it? howto's? im in #mythyv-users too01:09
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Fujitsulinnuxxy: You may want to try #ubuntu-artwork01:09
jenocinthink i'm just gonna wipe that machine and put redhat on it... ubuntu still feels like a desktop distro to me01:09
ZirJokersomebudy send me a screenshot of his desktop plz01:09
linnuxxythnx Fujistu01:09
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ZirJoker:o01:10
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soundraytriade: I have experienced instability with ubuntu's own ralink drivers. Compiling the module from Ralink's own sources helped.01:10
Fujitsujenocin: Did you try the, you know, not desktop variant of Ubuntu?01:10
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ragplease cam Logitech Quickcam messenger die my ubuntu, why?01:10
Noobiei hope the kernel comes with the skas patch01:10
Noobieit 'll help me a lot01:10
jenocinFujitsu: thats whats on it01:10
printkNoobie: if not, you can always compile your own kernel.01:10
ragdo you know, why my cam kill my ubuntu?01:10
Fujitsujenocin: What about it makes it feel like a desktop distro?01:10
triadesoundray: ahh, could be ...but same prob with prism2_usb device. Ifdown really freezes system01:11
ZirJokersomebody send me a screenshot of his desktop plz01:11
sneikas!grub01:11
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:11
printkZirJoker: of who's?  This is a support channel01:11
lupine_85anyone who can !op in #ubuntu-meeting fancy kicking a squatter out?01:11
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ragmy cam kill my ubuntu, why?01:11
jenocinFujitsu: a lot of different things to it, haven't been too fond of apt-get for awhile now either01:11
ZirJokeryour desktop printk01:12
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javiolo!edgy01:12
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule01:12
britt_any help with mythtv?01:12
soundraytriade: maybe you have a rogue script in /etc/network/if-down.d/ or if-post-down.d/01:12
jenocinFujitsu: not to mention a lot of the big players aren't "supporting" ubuntu installs01:12
Fujitsujenocin: How can you prefer yum!?01:12
printkrag - no we don't know why.  We need secifics01:12
printkZirJoker: uhrm why?01:12
ragprintk, please help me01:12
ZirJokeri wanna customize mine and im noob so i want to see yours and see what can i do01:12
ZirJokerand then ask about the programs you use01:12
ZirJokerxD01:12
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jenocinFujitsu: dependency hell in apt-get, actually I like ports on bsd01:13
triadesoundray: no, using ifconfig device down does the same01:13
soundrayrag: this happens sometimes when you plug a webcam into a USB hub. Connect it directly instead.01:13
printkZirJoker: there are websites for that.   gnome-look.org or kde-look.org01:13
ZirJokeru.u01:13
ZirJokerok01:13
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Stormx2Is it out yet?01:13
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cartuferbritt_: there was an episode of systm on mythtv, that should hold ur hand nicely through it01:13
ragprintk, just now, i am intall easycam2 and camorama, when i try use my cam on any software (kopete, camorama, etc). my cam kill my ubuntu and i reboot with power button01:13
Noobiethanks, c ya later01:13
printkStormx2: yes it is out.01:13
Stormx2w00t!01:13
Fujitsujenocin: Dependency hell? I have never encountered such things in my 5 years of working with Debian-based systems.01:14
ZambeziIf I extract the serverimage to a USB-stick, isn't it possible to install Ubuntu from that?01:14
ragsoundray: i have it directly01:14
printkStormx2: what is "it" ? :)01:14
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britt_cartufer: i just need guiance, my hand is fine01:14
jenocinFujitsu: no selinux/app armour either, can probably be added in, but still to me feels like a desktop distro, debian I really don't have as much of a problem with01:14
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britt_i dont need drivers i would think01:14
britt_i just need the software I suppose01:14
jenocinFujitsu: been using ubuntu since 4 or so I think01:14
Stormx2printk: edgy eft!01:14
cartufergoogle is ur friend01:14
ragsoundray, test it on other usb ?01:14
britt_woody howto's and breezy ones01:14
ragsoundray, on my laptop?01:14
Fujitsujenocin: Ubuntu server is very similar to Debian... I don't see how you can dislike one of them.01:14
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britt_no dapper01:14
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printkStormx2: oh, nope not yet01:15
ragprintk, soundray, it kill my ubuntu01:15
soundrayrag: yes, or remove the mouse -- sometimes there are conflicts.01:15
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jenocinFujitsu: might just need to go try the newer version01:15
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ZirJoker!metacity01:15
ubotumetacity: A lightweight GTK2 based Window Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.14.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 693 kB, installed size 10732 kB01:15
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ragsoundray, on moment, i use touchpad, there is any usb mouse connected01:15
ragsoundray, only usb cam01:15
ZirJoker!gtk01:15
ubotugtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications01:15
Flanneljenocin: SELinux is in dapper, universe, also see this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux01:16
ragsoundray, Logitech quickcam messenger01:16
ZirJoker!topaz01:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about topaz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:16
ZirJoker!compiz01:16
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:16
Flanneljenocin: I believe full support is in edgy01:16
soundrayrag: what's the USB ID? (Find out with lsusb)01:16
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KGnomeii need help...01:17
helloyoKGnome: yeah?01:17
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ragsoundray, Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:08f0 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenge01:17
triadesoundray: rag prob sounds very similar to mine ..... known USB bug?01:17
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FlimFlamManany mozilla thunderbird message filter experts in the channel?  :-)01:18
ragsoundray, please01:19
helloyoanyone gotten firefox 2.0 to work in dapper?01:19
soundrayrag: what module does it load?01:19
gnomefreakhelloyo: yes installing it per !firefox works fine01:20
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helloyo!firefox01:20
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins01:20
ragsoundray, videodev and quickcam01:20
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helloyothanks gnomefreak01:20
FlimFlamMani'm trying to set up filters so that when a message arrives and it contains a string in a certain custom header, it gets copied to another folder.  all other other messages should be *moved* to the other folder.  but custom headers don't offer a "doesn't contain" test01:20
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gnomefreakhelloyo: yw01:20
jvaihey ppl, hoary died last nyte on this box :(, dapper's doin well, EVERTHING just works, things r a lil different, but i'll adjust01:20
ragsoundray, usbcore               130692  4 quickcam,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd01:20
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dalaniFirefox??? never again it's the worse browser. Try logging onto Google's website01:20
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FlimFlamMandalani: what are you talking about??01:21
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DraconicusWhat's gnome-meeting called these days?01:21
dalaniIve had bad results with forefox just to slow01:21
DraconicusI forgot.01:21
DraconicusEkiga?01:21
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dalaniand its not the ip4 thing either I fixed that01:21
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CVirushow can I restart my synaptic touch pad ?01:22
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helloyoany ideas when edgy is being released? i have the day off and would love to install it...01:22
Code-E!ati > Code-E01:22
LjL!ef | helloyo01:22
triadenext question: anybody here got mutiple linux boot system?01:22
ubotuhelloyo: Edgy will be released on October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!01:22
raghelloyo, tomorrow or now01:22
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KGnomei installed a Desktop Environment(XPde) that doesn't automatically add its self to login session screen, how an i get it there01:22
KGnomei installed a Desktop Environment(XPde) that doesn't automatically add its self to login session screen, how can i get it there01:22
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fydoKGnome: once is enough :P01:23
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ragsoundray, say me if you know01:23
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soundrayrag: sorry, I have no good ideas. Maybe upgrade to edgy?01:23
Dr_willisKGnome,  find/copy/make a correct .desktop entry for it. :)01:23
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ragsoundray, ok thanks01:23
KGnomehow do i do thet01:23
Dr_willisKGnome,  look in -------> /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop01:23
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KGnomety01:24
Dr_willisand have fun. :)01:24
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ragsomebody with Logitech quickcam?01:24
pschulz01I have a corrupted /var/lib/dpkg/status..Can i reset it somehow?01:24
ZirJoker!gtk01:24
ubotugtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications01:24
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KGnomeshould i be root?01:24
drbreenanyone knows simple latex solutions like LYX for gtk ?01:24
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drbreenmaybe simpler ?01:24
LuisMendescan I trust the Fridge? saying ubuntu 6.10 will be released in less than an hour...01:24
ragmy logitech quickcam messenger, it kill my ubuntu01:24
wingacan someone help me with my usb problem? I get this when i try to connect my gp2x which should be recognized as a usb drive:   hub 1-0:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 2 disabled01:24
FlannelLuisMendes: On the 'calendar' thing?01:24
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LuisMendesFlannel, yes01:25
dalaniMy question: is it possible in Dapper to use opera 100% without Firefox installed01:25
FlannelLuisMendes: that goes by dates, only.  not times, or anything.  It's just a calendar sort of thing01:25
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britt_bios sees my drive, ubuntu sees it and recognizes my 2nd drive as hdb, but i cant pull up fdisk on it...what gives?01:25
LuisMendesFlannel, well but anyway, it counts down the time in GMT format.. so it should be accurate :)01:25
soundraywinga: wow, a gp2x, I want one! Sorry, no idea about the usb problem... tried connecting to another socket?01:25
FlannelLuisMendes: right, but edgy won't be released at 00:00 GMT01:25
Code-E?01:25
jvaimy usb stik is flaky still, it mounts when it feels like it01:26
psusibritt_, what do you mean you can't pull up fdisk on it?01:26
wingasoundray, just got it today for my b-day yesterday :) can't get ubuntu to get it up right though01:26
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triadebritt_: are you pointing it dierctly : "fdisk /dev/hdb"?01:26
britt_unable to open /deb/hdb01:26
britt_yes01:26
soundraywinga: are you connecting it via a hub?01:26
britt_what does it mean01:26
Dr_willissoundray,  i keep meaning to order one also. :P01:26
jherm_i'm sure this question has been asked a million times today... what time can i expect to see an edgy torrent up?01:27
britt_ive never had issues with fdisk01:27
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Code-E!01:27
psusibritt_, sudo fdisk /dev/hdb01:27
Flanneljherm_: whenever it's relesed.  There's no set time01:27
britt_and since bios sees it, and ubuntu sees it, is my drive bad or something?01:27
user-landjvai, using a hub ?01:27
triadebritt_: and "cfdisk" ?01:27
wingasoundray, no i'm plugging it right in to the mobo01:27
soundraywinga: how big is the screen? I mean diameter in cm, roughly?01:27
psusibritt_, and doesn't it specify WHY it was unable to open?01:27
drbreen!lyx > drbreen01:27
britt_sudo did it01:27
britt_:)01:27
drbreen!lyx01:27
ubotulyx: High Level Word Processor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.7-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 48 kB01:27
psusibritt_, yea, only root is allowed to edit partition tables ;)01:28
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jvaiusr-landnoo, it's in the side of the thinkpad, in 1 of the ports01:28
britt_i see01:28
britt_it freaked me out01:28
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britt_oh how do i format JFS01:28
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Raggaespaol01:28
Flannel!es01:28
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.01:28
wingasoundray, i think 3-3.501:28
Cyberwormhi01:28
britt_apparently mythtv works better with jfs01:28
wingasoundray, good enough for me01:28
soundraywinga: is that inches or centimeters?01:29
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wingain01:29
agliodbsanyone going to/working on the Developer Summit?01:29
wingasoundray, in01:29
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soundraywinga: have you tried plugging it in, and then turning it on?01:29
jvaiwell, i can say, that playing dvd's in dapper doesnt slow down x, like in hoary01:29
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jvai*watching SAVING PRIVATE RYAN*01:30
wingasoundray, yeah just did, what does that message even meen?01:30
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soundraywinga: I don't know, never seen it.01:30
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noexCan anyone point me in the direction of a How To Install Firefox 2. I can't find the directions on the mozilla site anywhere. They just tell you what its going to do.01:31
Flannel!firefox01:31
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins01:31
dalaniMy question: is it possible in Dapper to use opera 100% without Firefox installed01:31
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Flanneldalani: is there any reason why it wouldnt be?01:32
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noexHey Flennel, yeh, I have seen that guide it's the guide for 1.5.x not 2.001:32
Flannelnoex: right, same steps though, just different filenames01:32
dalaniIm very disappointed with  Firefox01:32
soundraywinga: it might be something that you can ask their support to help fix01:32
wingamaybe01:32
noexFlannel: Ah, thanks! I am still very new.01:32
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aldinis it came up? edgy?01:33
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h3htimowhen is edgy going to be officially released???01:33
Flanneldalani: right, I wasn't questioning why you might want to.  but why would you think it wouldn't be?  opera and firefox are independant01:33
darkyoshi372tomorrow01:33
soundraydalani: stop that nonsense. If you need a faster browser, try swiftfox or links. Whether opera will work for you or not, you'll have to find out yourself.01:33
Flannelh3htimo, aldin, whenever it gets released.  There's no set time01:33
jvaiit's not fair 4 me to compare this dapper release against xp, noo, i did that w/ hoary, i wanna see how vista does..01:33
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h3htimoFlannel, i heard it was going to be soon tho01:33
dalaniah thanks01:33
jvai<<-- stay humble01:33
h3htimoi think i read it on digg01:33
darkyoshi372I just upgraded to edgy RC, and X will not start. I'm on a Radeon.01:33
aldin26th is today01:34
Flanneldarkyoshi372: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support01:34
darkyoshi372okay, thank you01:34
aldinin europe01:34
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joeCoTlol. it gets released /tomorrow/? I dunno if it's just me, but it broke all opening apps on my desktop. I left it to dist-upgrade again, hope that fixes it.01:34
J_Phi all01:34
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Stormx2Guys01:36
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Stormx2How would I get a list of currently installed apps?01:36
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soundrayStormx2: dpkg -l * | grep ^ii01:36
JosefKStormx2: dpkg --get-selection > installed.txt01:36
Stormx2Thanks both of you :)01:36
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jordan_How do I ignore a dependency that I know I don't need?01:37
aldinTO ALL: anyone has info when 2it wil be"01:37
soundrayJosefK: that's nice!01:37
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JosefKjordan_: if you've installed something locally, there's a procedure for telling that to dpkg01:37
JosefKjordan_: if you haven't installed it locally though, then it is still a dependency01:37
JosefKsoundray: aye :)01:37
Stormx2Ima upgrade now I think.01:37
jordan_JosefK, And that would be :)01:37
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soundrayJosefK: except you forgot an 's' ;)01:38
NoIPMixAManyone can tell me more about Reiser4 ?01:38
ianmacgregorI discovered the Deskbar applet a little bit ago.. and all I can say is WOW! This thing ROCKS!01:39
jordan_JosefK, How would I do that with dpkg?01:39
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JosefKsoundray: really plural?  shucks :/01:39
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jordan_ianmacgregor, What does it do?01:40
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aldinany link for info about edgy release time01:40
jordan_!schedual01:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about schedual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:40
jordan_!edgy01:40
soundray!ef | aldin01:40
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule01:40
ubotualdin: Edgy will be released around October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!01:40
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aldinubotu: it is hard lol01:41
ianmacgregor!ubotu01:41
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:41
Riot777sudo sed -e s/\sdapper/ edgy/g -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <--- best way to upgrade I've seen so far01:41
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wingasoundray, it was the usb cable01:43
wingasoundray, go figure the one it came with doesn't work01:43
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soundraywinga: well done -- how did you work that out?01:44
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Krux0Does anyone happen to know if apt writes to a configuration file while or after performing apt-get -d --reinstall install `dpkg -l|grep ii|cut -d " " -f3`?01:44
Krux0because i have done that on my box, then transfered all the downloaded packages to a networkless box on my flash drive and tried to run apt-get --no-download install <package nameon the unnetworked pc and it gives an error complaining that the package cannot be retrieved but it exists in /var/cache/apt/archives/>01:44
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wingasoundray, i remember reading somewhere on a review that someone else had that problem, so i tried another one i had01:45
Krux0but when i cleaned the cache on my networked pc and retrieve one package and tried reinstalling it with --no-downlaod it worked. this has lead me to believe that apt was not aware of the packages that i placed in the archive folder01:45
j2daoshkrux, i would assume so01:45
jvaiheey, tcpdump doesnt do eth1 in dapper! why/01:46
soundrayKrux0: perhaps a permission problem?01:46
Krux0and that a database file is being updated01:46
j2daoshwhen you do an apt-get update it updates your sources list and packags most likely01:46
Krux0no permission problems01:46
ragplease my cam kill my ubuntu, do you know?01:46
Flannelj2daosh: just package lists01:46
j2daoshor try doing a "sudo updatedb"01:46
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Stormx2Pray for me, this has never worked for me.01:46
ianmacgregorKrux0: Why would you place packages into the archives folder manually?01:46
ragLogitech QuickKill Ubuntu01:46
j2daoshthat will "index" your fs01:46
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rag:)01:46
kitchejvai: think you have to tell tcpdump to look at the other network card01:46
Fujitsuj2daosh: apt-get update just updates the package lists, and updatedb updates locate's DB, nothing to do with apt.01:47
soundrayianmacgregor: why not, on an unconnected machine?01:47
Krux0i believe i have done apt-get update and it still would not use the packages in archive01:47
jvaioo, what's the command 4 that?01:47
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SpaceFrogAnyone know of a good MSProject clone for Linux?01:47
Krux0because it's an unnetworked pc at my job01:47
j2daoshFujitsu: but maybe apt reads from that list01:47
ragLogitech Quick-Kill my ubuntu, my cam kill my ubuntu, do you know01:47
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jribKrux0: do you know of apt-zip?01:47
ianmacgregorsoundray: I was wondering if he thought that would make apt think it was a repo01:47
LjL!equivalents > SpaceFrog01:47
Krux0it has to be done that day01:47
Fujitsuj2daosh: It doesn't.01:47
j2daoshif the system dont know the files are in archive how will apt know they are there?01:47
jvaitcpdump -vv worked in hoary ither way eth0 or eth101:47
Krux0i've cam across it on a man page01:47
KGnomeHow do i manually add a Desktop Environment to the logon session manager?01:47
Fujitsuj2daosh: I can definitively say that it has nothing to do with it.01:48
ragsoundray: my cam kill my ubuntu, do you know something?01:48
j2daoshlol ok01:48
jribKrux0: it is exactly for what you are trying to do01:48
jordan_How do I ignore a dependency that I know I don't need?01:48
j2daoshwell since your positive ill run with you01:48
Krux0jrib, great01:48
soundrayianmacgregor: that might actually be a good idea...01:48
Fujitsujordan_: You do need it.01:48
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jvaisnaap, snort doesnt do eth1 ithr!01:48
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ianmacgregorj2daosh: Putting packages into the archives folder has nothing to do with apt knowing they are there. The archives folder is not a repo and so apt wouldn't see them anyway01:48
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Krux0jrib, hope it solves dependencies too01:48
teimuhey guys. im trying to install dapper on a graphically and RAM disadvantaged computer. the live session is taking way too long to load, so far 45mins just to see a login screen. So, im wondering if it's possible to install using the text-based installer. Is this possible?01:48
jordan_Fujitsu, I want to remove totem-mozilla but not the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, I don't need it.01:49
Fujitsujordan_: You need to remove ubuntu-desktop, then.01:49
j2daoshjordan, meta package is fine to delete01:49
KGnomeHow do i manually add a Desktop Environment to the logon session manager?01:49
jribKrux0: it should01:49
j2daoshjust turn right back around and reinstall it01:49
Fujitsu(ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, you won't lose anything if you remove it)01:49
soundrayKrux0: there is a dpkg command that will create a Packages.gz and stuff from a collection of .debs, so you can use it as a local repository in sources.list. That might be a solution.01:49
LjLSpaceFrog: there are a few packaged programs that can do Gantt diagrams and all that stuff01:49
ianmacgregorteimu: Yes, the Alternate CD is the only one I use because I like the text-based installer. It's quick and best on an old machine01:49
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Fujitsusoundray: apt-move?01:50
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teimuianmacgregor, oo yes. I saw the torrent for that. I will download it now. THANKS!01:50
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jordan_I know it is OK to delete, but I would like to be able to apt-get autoremove without everything that ubuntu-desktop depends on being removed, I want to keep ubuntu-desktop.01:50
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ianmacgregorteimu: You're welcome :)01:50
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Riot777teimu: how much mem ?01:50
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Krux0ianmacgregor, no i just thought that since i would supply the --no-download option it might bypass searching for it on the net and look in archives or atleast do the latter if the former fails01:50
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Fujitsujordan_: Why not just leave the package installed?01:50
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KGnomehelloyo: i need more help on that01:50
Krux0soundray, thanks01:50
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LjL!ops | GreatDeal01:51
ubotuGreatDeal: Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!01:51
soundrayFujitsu: that might have been it... Krux0: apt-move01:51
helloyoKGnome: more help on what?01:51
OmicronHello all.01:51
GreatDealok then01:51
naliothLjL: yes?01:51
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LjLnalioth: greatdeal spamming web hosting01:51
gnomefreakLjL: ?01:51
jordan_Fujitsu, Because then mplayer-mozilla doesn't work.01:51
naliothah yes01:51
KGnomehelloyo: manually adding a desktop environment01:51
naliothGreatDeal: you are not in the correct channel for your message01:51
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helloyoKGnome: oh, ok, just a sec, i'll find something01:51
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GreatDealnalioth: ok then, bye01:52
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OmicronAnyone got a working Belkin wirelss G adapter version 5100 using Atheros chipset?01:52
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jribjordan_: sure it does01:52
lostatcIs there any site/s dedicated or useful when it comes to GNOME optimization?01:52
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triadeOmicron: I have01:53
jribjordan_: just 'touch' all the mplayer .so's and firefox will prefer mplayer over totem.  But to answer your question, you can use the 'equivs'01:53
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helloyoKGnome: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&highlight=enlightenment go to that url and have a look at how they added the desktop entry to xsessions, just change the values to what you need01:53
jribpackage01:53
OmicronTrirade.....could you share the details?01:53
triadewhat's the prob?01:53
phobiaMy grub boot manager is gone, any ideas? I have a dapper live cd and I know that my partitions with my linux files are there.01:53
eric__Aiee, I can't use my keyboard in GUI.  I'm using IRSSI right now, something that I'm not perfectly familiar with - but it BEEPS any time I press a key.  Any suggestions?01:53
helloyoi'm willing to break my system! i want to try some cool new software, any suggestions?01:53
eric__It just kind of, randomly happened?01:53
OmicronTriade, are you using ndiswrapper or does it work out-of-the-box??01:54
KGnomehelloyo: ty ill try01:54
jordan_jrib, How do I "'touch' all the mplayer .so's" ?01:54
Fujitsuphobia: Did you install Windows or another OS after Ubuntu?01:54
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soundrayphobia: follow the instructions for recovering grub after Windows01:54
OmicronTriade, it is not recognized at all on my system?01:54
ragmy cam kill my ubuntu, it frezze01:54
soundray!grub | phobia01:54
ubotuphobia: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:54
triadeOmicron: Just stuck it in and it works.01:54
phobiaYes, I installed windows after01:54
OmicronTriade, you using dapper Ubuntu?01:54
jribjordan_: sudo touch /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*mplayer*   I think01:54
Fujitsuphobia: See the link ubotu sent you.01:54
phobiaOh, thank you01:54
ragplease!01:55
ragmy cam freeze my ubuntu01:55
Fujitsurag: If nobody answers, it probably means nobody knows.01:55
ragand i reboot with power button01:55
FujitsuSo asking every minute isn't going to do much good.01:55
helloyowhat's a cool app that i should try? anything!01:55
soundrayrag: please, this is pointless. If someone here could help you, they would. Come back at a later time.01:55
jribhelloyo: amarok01:55
eric__helloyo - try beryl01:55
triadeOmicron: yup. What does "iwconfig" say?01:55
helloyojrib: thanks, but got it01:55
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jribhelloyo: vim?01:55
ragFujitsu, soundray, ok01:55
FlimFlamMani'm trying to use MS-Outlook and MS-Exchange as little as possible, but i still need to be able to confirm/decline meeting requests contained in e-mail messages.01:55
FlimFlamManso, upon arrival, i want to move all messages out of my Exchange inbox into an IMAP inbox on another server, EXCEPT those with a "Content-class" header that contains "calendarmessage".01:55
FlimFlamManunfortunately, in the message filter builder, there is no "doesn't contain" comparison operator for custom headers (like Content-class).  is there any other way to do this?01:55
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helloyoeric__: was considering that, what sort of setup time am i looking at?01:56
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helloyojrib: isn't that a text editor?01:56
eric__About five to ten minutes, tops.01:56
jribhelloyo: yes01:56
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OmicronTriade, I'd have to put the card back and start over again to get a reading for you.01:56
helloyoeric__: i'm not sure if you're sarcastic... but i'll have a look into it, could be interesting01:56
soundrayFlimFlamMan: procmail ?01:56
eric__You might want to try #ubuntu-xgl for more info, helloyo01:56
Krux0thank you all01:56
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soundray!procmail | FlimFlamMan01:56
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helloyoeric__: ok, will do01:56
triadeOmicron: USB or PCMCIA?01:57
ubotuprocmail: Versatile e-mail processor. In component main, is optional. Version 3.22-11ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 137 kB, installed size 336 kB01:57
eric__No, not much sarcasm.  It's a pretty simple setup for dapper.01:57
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OmicronTriade, PCI.01:57
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eric__Enjoy!01:57
jordan_jrib, Thank you for that, mplayer now works AND I know how to ignore dependencies if I ever need to later :)01:57
jribjordan_: np01:57
eric__Aiee, I can't use my keyboard in GUI.  I'm using IRSSI right now, something that I'm not perfectly familiar with - but it BEEPS any time I press a key.  Any suggestions?01:57
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Flanneleric__: sounds like a hardware issue, if your computer beeps on each key.  You sure keyboard/mouse are plugged into the right PS2 ports? and you have no stuck keys?01:58
Code-1Anybody know how to get nIRC on xubuntu?01:58
triadeOmicron: ah I got the USB version. You need madwifi drivers installed.01:58
OmicronTriade, nothing shows up in the Network area.01:58
shinshanhola01:58
eric__Flannel: I'm using the keyboard now, in command line.01:58
shinshani need help01:58
OmicronMadwifi frivers...ok...what about ndiswrapper?01:58
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eric__I'm using IRSSI, like I said.  It's just beeping at me in the GUI, on screen 7.01:58
soundrayeric__: try 'xset c off' just for sanity01:58
kitcheCode-1: nIRC?01:59
Code-1yes01:59
Fujitsu!helpme01:59
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:59
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FBorges22where I can find a tutorial telling how to configure the proftpd server?01:59
KGnomehelloyo: tyve works now ;-] 01:59
kitcheCode-1: never heard of it but I have heard of mirc01:59
eric__soundray: it says unable to open display01:59
Fujitsushinshan: Ask away.01:59
triadeOmicron: dunno, don't like "other"drivers. They say it's oK.01:59
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Code-1kitche: its basically a terminal based irc client01:59
Code-1But I like it01:59
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soundrayeric__: try again from Alt-F2 run dialog01:59
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OmicronTriade, is there a procedure i could follow to use these madwifi drivers?02:00
eric__soundray - I'm on screen 1, logged into terminal - press alt f2 here?02:00
soundrayeric__: no, this needs to be done in X. Thought you said that X had messed it up.02:01
OmicronTriade, so I don't need anything from the CD that came with the adapter??02:01
ianmacgregoreric__: No, ALT+F2 brings up a gui run dialog, won't do you much good in tty102:01
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triadeOmicron: I'm not sure, mine has "ralink"chips. take a look at their (madwifi) site02:01
eric__soundray: it is, and it just beeps at me, it won't let me press alt+f2 in the x.02:01
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triadeOmicron: I've heard they're the best drivers around including wpa support.02:02
OmicronTriade, yeah, I heard the ralink chipset was working as native Linux, but the chipset in mine doesn't seem to be suported :(02:02
KGnomeGiving help on Windows Apps on Linux...02:02
dontbanmehelp - when I apt-get dist-upgrade to edgy, apt wants to remove xserver-xorg without installing any replacements02:02
LjL!edgy > dontbanme02:03
helloyoKGnome: no problem02:03
triadeOmicron: I was thinking of moving to Atheros chipset cause of wpa02:03
dontbanme..02:03
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shinshani need configure the "interfaces" in ubuntu with ip xxx.xxx.131.xxx & gw xxx.xxx.196.xxx... my english is bad...02:03
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kingacehello, im trying to install enemy territory, and I have a .run file with no clue how to run it02:03
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OmicronTriade, well, i haven't found anyplace that indicates the Belkin PCI adapter is working with Dapper when using Atheros chipset. Perhpas with ndiswrapper and the Windows drivers but i was hoping to avoid that setup.02:04
njankingace, chmod +x nameof.run && sh ./nameof.run02:04
eyequeueshinshan, man 5 interfaces, sudo nano /etc/apt/interfaces02:04
Dr_williskingace,  chmod +x whatever.run  && ./whatever.run02:04
Fujitsushinshan: Open up System->Administration->Networking.02:04
josh__whats up guys? what is the format for cron entries? i cant remember the exact format02:04
kingacethanks02:04
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LjLjosh__: "man 5 crontab"02:04
tsolerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28339/02:04
d-E-u-Show i can set up autologin for XFCE?02:05
Fujitsud-E-u-S: Find the login screen administration tool, I'm not sure where it is in XFCE.02:05
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eric__Nope, not making any progress.02:05
shinshanok...02:05
triadeOmicron: ndiswrappr itself is very simple but you need the windows .inf file02:05
jordanaui am trying to develop a website with someone. I have a LAMP server set up on my computer and would like him and only him to be allowed to have full access to my apache server root folder. What is the best way to allow him permission to the folder (btw he is running windows)02:05
Fujitsud-E-u-S:  (or type `sudo gdmsetup' in a terminal)02:05
eric__It's still just beeping at me.02:05
GIFRATEdoes anyone know at what time edgy will officially be released?02:05
KGnomewhere can i get winelib?02:05
eric__I think I'm going to have to do a full reboot - maybe?02:05
Dr_willisGIFRATE,  when its ready. :)02:05
eric__Gah, there goes my uptime.02:05
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FujitsuGIFRATE: no. Whenever they decide to release it.02:05
OmicronTriade, i see an .inf on the CD that came with the adapter.02:05
soundrayeric__: let me check this with you: you're in X right now, correct? Gnome?02:06
Dr_willisevery 6 mo - people are asking ' whats the exact SECOND! it will be relased!'02:06
Dr_willis:)02:06
OmicronI've never worked with ndiswrapper and I'm a Linux newbie.02:06
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eric__soundray: no, I'm on tty1, using IRSSI as my irc client02:06
Dr_willisIF you must have it now.. get the rc, and just install/upgrade :)02:06
LjL!edgyfinal02:06
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!02:06
triadeOmicron: check the ndiswrapper site at sourceforge if they've got a driver ... or comments.02:06
GIFRATEjust impatient :P02:06
shinshanalguien habla espaol?02:06
eric__!es02:06
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:06
LjL!es02:06
eric__Gotcha, Ljl :p02:06
LjLheh02:07
soundrayeric__: yes, try a reboot.02:07
shinshanubuntu es no tiene las respuestas a todo...02:07
eric__Alright, going for the reboot now.02:07
OmicronTriade, so i should look for a specific driver for this adapter on the Sourceforge site?02:07
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ianmacgregor!es | shinshan02:07
ubotushinshan: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:07
triadeOmicron: its as simple as "ndiswrapper -i /path to/ your.inf"02:07
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OmicronTriade, gotta install ndiswrapper first! :)02:08
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d-E-u-Show to setup X?02:08
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d-E-u-Sresolution etc.02:08
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LjLd-E-u-S: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:09
josh__how do i setup mail on here? just system mail not like pop3 mail02:09
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jvaijosh: just 4 sending?02:10
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eric__Nope, still giving me a beep of doom.02:10
ianmacgregoreric__: hehe, BSOD: Beep Sound Of Doom02:10
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Vaske_Caris Edgy out?02:11
jbroomeNO02:11
cartufervaske, tomorrow02:11
Vaske_Cartomorrow?02:11
LjL!ef | Vaske_Car02:11
ubotuVaske_Car: Edgy will be released around October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!02:11
Vaske_Carok L:)02:11
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jbroomeis feisty out yet?  is it usable?02:12
eric__Yeah, it'll be funny when I fix it, ianmacgregor.  ~____~02:12
d-E-u-Swhere can i setup my network in XFCE?? is there a gui for this?02:12
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LjLjbroome: join #ubuntu+202:12
Dr_willisd-E-u-S,  run the gnome network tool... but i cant rember its name. :)02:12
OmicronTriade, thank you for your help.02:13
Vaske_CarIs XFCE a lot faster than Gnome?02:13
d-E-u-Sits installed on xfce?02:13
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d-E-u-SVaske_Car, i think02:13
LjLVaske_Car: it mostly depends on the applications you use on it.02:13
OmicronTriade, i'm going to download and install ndiswrapper now.02:13
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Dr_willisd-E-u-S,  if xfce isent using a LOT of the gnome tools.. then its missing a lot of features. :)02:13
jordanaui am trying to develop a website with someone. I have a LAMP server set up on my computer and would like him and only him to be allowed to have full access to my apache server root folder. What is the best way to allow him permission to the folder (btw he is running windows)02:13
Dr_willisi cant even find the name of the gnome network config tools02:14
Vaske_CarI have PIII 600Mh and 256Mb of ram, would it run fine for average user?02:14
eric__Vaske_Car: yes.02:14
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eobanbVaske_Car, certainly02:14
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jvaisnaap, i keep right cliking for the shell, keep for getting it aint there anymore, & i set up a terminl icon in the panel..smh02:14
eobanbVaske_Car, i have a 600 MHz with 384 MB of ram, and gnome ran fine.02:14
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eobanbVaske_Car, i suppose i'd still recommend Xfce though02:14
eobanbi've since upgraded it to 51202:14
triadeOmicron: good luck.02:14
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LjLeobanb, i don't see why it wouldn't. 384Mb is plenty of storage.02:15
Vaske_Carwanted to danate one old PC to a friend so he can use it for the internet...02:15
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eobanbLjL, firefox can use up a lot of RAM.02:15
eric__It's weird, my keyboard works fine in the login screen, but once I actually get into the desktop the keyboard produces that annoying beep sound of doom.02:15
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Vaske_CarIs that tool Automatix compatible with XFCE as well?02:15
LjLeobanb, firefox runs fine in 256mb02:16
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LjL!automatix | Vaske_Car02:16
ubotuVaske_Car: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!02:16
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Dr_willisVaske_Car,  automatix is a bad idea.. and its window-manager-non-specific02:16
Dr_willisVaske_Car,  so yes.. but its still a bad idea02:16
Dr_willis:)02:16
Stormx2automatix = evil02:16
monkstergreetings...02:16
Vaske_Caris there another tool that do the same thing?02:16
LjL!easyubuntu | Vaske_Car02:16
ubotuVaske_Car: EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.02:16
Stormx2easyubuntu, I think.02:16
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LjLbut the best tool is the documentation.02:16
FujitsuEasyUbuntu is generally safer.02:17
FujitsuAlthough neither are recommended.02:17
Vaske_Carok02:17
Vaske_Carbtw why manu people does nto recomment Automatix?02:17
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Dr_willisboth can be replaced by a few apt-gets and edits of the sources.list :)02:17
eric__So... any solutions to my keyboard beeping sound of doom?02:17
d-E-u-SDr_willis I cant find this network tool :(02:17
Dr_willisVaske_Car,  it can trash the system02:17
LjLVaske_Car: because it breaks systems.02:17
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Dr_willisd-E-u-S,  i use kubuntu, so i cant recall the thing under unbunt02:17
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Sebastianhello02:17
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LjL!hi02:18
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!02:18
SebastianI need some help02:18
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Sebastianmplease02:18
LjL!ask02:18
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:18
Sebastianoh ok02:18
monksterI have a pile of .odt open office documents and I would like to search the text in them...02:18
Sebastiansorry, first time here02:18
Sebastian!ask02:18
monksterCan Beagle do that? I can't get it to work.02:18
SebastianYesterday I installed edgy02:18
FujitsuSebastian: #ubuntu+1 is a better place for Edgy.02:18
Sebastianand I have problems with icon themes02:18
LjL!edgy | Sebastian02:18
ubotuSebastian: edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule02:18
eyequeueSebastian, #ubuntu+1 for edgy02:18
Fujitsumonkster: Yes it can.02:18
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Sebastianoh ok02:19
Sebastianthanks02:19
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monksterFujitsu, sure, right? hmm...02:19
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DesolationXhello all02:19
LjL!hi02:19
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!02:19
monksterMaybe I have to rebuild indexes or something?02:19
DesolationXi need some help please02:19
LjL!ask02:19
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:19
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d-E-u-SKnow somebody how to setup network in XFCE?02:19
Ash-FoxIt's thursday!02:19
vanRijn_re, all02:19
FujitsuAsh-Fox: We noticed.02:19
Vaske_Carjordanau, he can use SSH and WinSCP to manage that server02:20
vanRijn_anyone know where to get firefox 2.0 for linux-ppc?02:20
Ash-FoxFujitsu, 6.10 should be out, wee =)02:20
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Vaske_Carwee imagine Ubuntu for next 4-5 years :))02:20
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FujitsuAsh-Fox: It will be released /on/ the 26th, not before.02:21
FujitsuvanRijn_: It is in Edgy, and don't try to install it on a previous version, please.02:21
Dr_willisd-E-u-S,  try network-admin02:21
Ash-FoxFujitsu it is the 26th\?02:21
DesolationXlol well i have powermac g4 dual 1ghz and ati video card. live boot loads fine after it loads it says everything is ok then i have black sceen02:21
adam_hello - i've just installed the edgy RC, and it looks great! except... the fonts in firefox 2.0 look like ass. they're bigger, and more antialiased, looking totally out of place. does anyone know how to fix?02:21
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bimberiAsh-Fox: 26th in the -12 Timezone :)02:21
LjL!edgy > adam_02:21
jordanauVaske_Car, is a vsftpd serber an okay idea as long as i have anonymous access turned off?02:21
FujitsuAsh-Fox: Yes.02:21
jordanauserber * server02:21
Ash-Foxbimberi, ah :P02:22
Dr_willisadam_,  install the msttcorefonts for a start02:22
Vaske_CarI prefer SSH and WinSCP02:22
Vaske_Caras I remember vsftps use plain text for passwords......02:22
Vaske_Carvsftpd*02:22
sethkjordan_, the secure versions are fine02:22
eric__adam_: try pressing ctrl+0, on a hunch?02:22
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sethkVaske_Car, if it's ftp, yes.  if it's sftp, no.  I think you are correct, and it is just ftp02:22
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sethkwhich means it should not be used, generally speaking.02:23
DesolationXanyone know how i can fix this problem ?02:23
adam_Dr_willis: thanks, will try02:23
Vaske_Carsethk, yes FTP uses plain text while SSH and WinSCP does not.02:23
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FujitsuOr SFTP, which uses SSH as the carrier.02:23
vanRijn_Fujitsu: ack.  why not?  dependencies?02:23
vanRijn_Fujitsu: btw, how close is edgy to being released?02:23
vanRijn_Fujitsu: and is the upgrade path from dapper to edgy pretty smooth?02:23
eric__My GUI won't accept input from the keyboard, instead it just beeps at me.  It works fine in the login, as well as TTY1, which is what I'm using.  Suggestions?02:23
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sethkVaske_Car, yes, I know, I just was checking whether "vsftp" mean v sftp, or vs ftp02:24
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LjLDesolationX: try and see if you can reach a console by pressing ctrl+alt+f2. if you can, login and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and tell it to use the VESA driver. then try starting X again using "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"02:24
sethkVaske_Car, by the way, the cygwin tools are a lot better than the win whatever tools.02:24
gleesondso I'm trying to run this game called cube 2 but it says I need openGL but I don't see any pkg named "OpenGL.lib" can anyone enlighten me02:24
FujitsuvanRijn_: Firstly, stuff is compiled against 1.5... Upgrading to 2 is likely to break things. Edgy will be released in the next 24 hours, and the upgrade path is very smooth.02:24
Vaske_Carvsftp should bd vsftpd02:24
vanRijn_Fujitsu: ahh, excellent, thanks.  =:)02:25
DesolationXLjL problem is after that black screen keyboard doesn't respond02:25
downfallat111are there any major changes expected in edgy from dapper?02:25
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Fujitsudownfallat111: There are new versions of most packages, new artwork, and various under-the-hood changes.02:26
eric__My GUI won't accept input from the keyboard, instead it just beeps at me.  It works fine in the login, as well as TTY1, which is what I'm using.  Suggestions?02:26
coz_evening all02:26
Vaske_CarIs there any work on recovery disk for Ubuntu or something that will let beginer uusers to recover system easy?02:26
LjLdownfallat111: a new init system called upstart instead of sysvinit.02:26
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Fujitsueric__: Please stop asking so frequently. It's likely nobody here knows if they haven't already answered02:26
coz_in dapper along with mgp321 i ws able to preview wav files with mouse over. it doesn't seem to work in edgy.. any solutions?02:26
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dniteJust outta curiosity, anyone know if there's a way to 'style' the buttons and text boxes a little nicer in firefox?? The look purdier in windoze... pretty ugly in linux...02:26
eric__Whoops, it was past the end of my screen.  I thought it was okay to ask again.02:26
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DesolationX LjL: problem is after that black screen keyboard doesn't respond02:26
LjLDesolationX, i got that. i just don't know.02:27
nailerdnite, they just use your gnome theme IIRC - try art.gnome.org02:27
ianmacgregoreric__: use PageUP and PageDown for scrolling in irssi02:27
nailerare final, non-RC edgy ISOs on any mirror yet?02:27
eric__ianmacgregor: yeah, I am - I just don't know how far it compares to my xchat window, at 1280x1024, lol.02:27
ianmacgregornailer: I doubt it02:27
KGnomewhats an easy way to set up a ram drive?02:27
dnitenailer, ok. thank you.02:27
Fujitsunailer: No. There will be an announcement when it is released.02:27
ianmacgregoreric__: I use irssi as my only IRC client and I use 1280x1024, I quite like it over XChat.02:28
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DesolationXthere anything i need to enter once the cd loads before i press enter. (sorry newb here)02:28
eric__ianmacgregor: yeah, well I'm going to cry if I can't get my xchat back.  :((((02:28
DesolationX*is02:28
KGnomewhats an easy way to set up a ram drive?02:28
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eric__I'm glad I knew about IRSSI at all.02:29
FujitsuKGnome: why do you want one?02:29
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adnansW00t!! Ubuntu running as Xen host and guest :)02:30
KGnomeFujitsu: to set up a small ftp and i dont want tp use a hard drive02:30
KGnome*to02:30
niallhi, im lookin to install the new fashplayer in my pc and im finding it difficult02:30
FujitsuKGnome: why not?02:30
dou213!linx02:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:31
bimberi!flash9 | niall02:31
ubotuniall: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)02:31
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vanRijn_um02:31
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KGnomefujitsu: so the server has its own drive # in Computer02:31
squeee!lynx02:31
ubotuBrowsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK), Opera (Qt), Konqueror (KDE/Qt), Links (terminal-based). HTTP servers: apache202:31
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squeee!links02:31
squeee!links202:31
vanRijn_suppose it's silly to ask, but I don't suppose there's a ppc version of flash9?02:31
ubotulinks: Character mode WWW browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (dapper), package size 375 kB, installed size 936 kB02:31
niallaye bimberi02:31
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FujitsuvanRijn_: No. Thankyou Adobe.02:31
squeeevanRijn: yep, it's silly... afaik it's not happening02:31
DesolationXi am at the boot screen of install it says boot:_   is there anything i can enter here to prevent that black screen02:32
vanRijn_squeee: blah02:32
squeeevanRijn: yep02:32
eric__DesolationX: press enter?02:32
KGnomeFujitsu: something like a dos subst would work to02:32
vanRijn_Fujitsu: yeah, s/Thank/f***/02:32
phobiaI'm trying to reload the grub bootloader after it was destroyed because of windows. I'm following the directions labaled "Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows I do not understand how to find out my harddisk and boot partition numbers. I did fdisk -l /dev/hda for information like it suggested in "Troubleshooting" and this is the line of 02:32
phobia /dev/hda2               1         829     6658911   83  Linux02:32
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phobiaSome please help?02:32
phobiaSomeone*02:32
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DesolationXeric__: when i do it loads and it says everything is ok then i get a black screen...02:33
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KGnomeFujitsu: any suggestions02:33
jbinderedgy = superclose02:33
niallis it easy to install02:33
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jbinderedgy?02:33
d-E-u-Sfor a driver installation i need gcc-3.4, how i can get it without internet?02:33
jbinderniall: is what easy to install02:33
d-E-u-Sis it on the cd ?02:33
dou213phobia, type only fdisk -l02:34
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niallflashplayer02:34
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jbinderniall: yes, it is easy02:34
dnitehey nailer, thanks.. i found it.. but where do i throw the new themes to use them??02:34
ianmacgregord-E-u-S: Pop in the cd and do sudo apt-get install build-essential02:34
jbinderniall: flash 7?02:34
Fujitsuniall: Install the flashplugin-nonfree package.02:34
j-swimhey folks, is there any good metacity behaviour add-on app?02:34
vzorichi, where can i see when is ubuntu 6.10 going to be out?02:34
niallyes02:34
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jbinderniall: very easy02:34
phobiaI get the same information02:34
jbinderhold on02:34
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Fujitsu!edgyfinal | vzoric02:34
ubotuvzoric: Edgy will be released around October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!02:34
nailerdnite, i thingk preferences -> themes or something like that02:34
Fujitsuj-swim: To do what?02:35
d-E-u-Sand gcc-3.4 is inside the build-essential?02:35
nailerdnite, then you just pick the theme file02:35
niallam new with all this02:35
jbinderniall: for linux i assume?02:35
dniteall right.. thanks nailer02:35
petternanyone installed CS with steam4linux on Dapper?02:35
nailernp02:35
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niallyes02:35
ianmacgregord-E-u-S: Oh, I don't know that. I know 4.0 is02:35
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vzoricFujitsu, what about what is going to be new in this release?02:35
j-swimFujitsu: stuff like remembering what desktop to open certain apps...02:35
dan2I installed edgy the other day02:35
dan2great stuff02:35
jbinderniall: k.. h/o02:35
dou213phobia, ask your question again, i gotta go...02:35
Fujitsuvzoric: Ask in #ubuntu+102:35
eck0how do i minimize in gnome?02:35
DesolationXdo u think its my monitor?02:35
jbinderhttp://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz02:35
jbinderniall: download that02:35
phobiaI'm trying to reload the grub bootloader after it was destroyed because of windows. I'm following the directions labaled "Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows I do not understand how to find out my harddisk and boot partition numbers. I did fdisk -l /dev/hda for information like it suggested in "Troubleshooting" and this is the line of 02:35
phobia /dev/hda2               1         829     6658911   83  Linux02:35
Fujitsueck0: Click on the minimise button, same as any other window manager or Windows, or OS X.02:36
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ianmacgregoreck0: ALT_F902:36
niallam lost already lol02:36
Fujitsujbinder: No.02:36
eck0ok ty02:36
jbinderFujitsu: why?02:36
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eric__My GUI won't accept input from the keyboard, instead it just beeps at me.  It works fine in the login, as well as TTY1, which is what I'm using.  Suggestions?02:36
Fujitsuniall: Open up Synaptic, and find the package flashplugin-nonfree.02:36
KGnomeIS There anything lke a dos subst for linux?????02:36
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Fujitsujbinder: There is a package.02:36
jbinderthats the stupid way to do it02:36
KGnomeIS There anything like a dos subst for linux?????02:36
jbinderdoing it manually is the more fun way02:36
preactionKGnome, don't repeat02:36
Fujitsujbinder: That is the SANE way to do it. The package manager exists for a reason.02:36
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KGnomesory typo02:36
phobiaThank you very much dou21402:36
DesolationXer1k_: ?02:37
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d-E-u-Scan i download the gcc-3.4 from somewhere and copy it to the pc i need it and install it there?02:37
niallwat do i do now02:37
phobia213*02:37
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ianmacgregorjbinder: sudo aptitude :)02:37
jbindereric__: GUI is evil02:37
eric__But I need it.02:37
jbinderianmacgregor: MANUAL INSTALLATION PWNS02:38
jbinderflashplayer is the easiest manual installation ever02:38
bimberid-E-u-S: download the gcc-3.4 package via http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and transfer (assuming the pc you want it on has no net connection)02:38
LjL!caps02:38
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.02:38
jbinderjust download, extract, and run on simple installer command02:38
Fujitsujbinder: The package manager exists for a reason, and should be used in all cases possible.02:38
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Fujitsujbinder: Please leave if you're going to be like that.02:38
KGnomeh02:38
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DesolationX>.< if everything is ok why does it stop at this point ?02:38
d-E-u-Sbimberi and how to install there then?02:39
KGnome??02:39
ianmacgregorjbinder: The best thing to do is to use the pm whenever possible. it's faster and easier most of the time.02:39
Hikaru79Is everything still on track for Edgy to be released tomorrow?02:39
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jbinderFujitsu: plenty of people agree with my, lots of people prefer doing things through a terminal02:39
jbinderi am one of them02:39
LjL!ef | Hikaru7902:39
ubotuHikaru79: Edgy will be released around October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!02:39
bimberid-E-u-S: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb02:39
KGnomehhh02:39
jbinderagree with me*02:39
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phobiaI'm trying to reload the grub bootloader after it was destroyed because of windows. I'm following the directions labaled "Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows I do not understand how to find out my harddisk and boot partition numbers. I did fdisk -l /dev/hda for information like it suggested in "Troubleshooting" and this is the line of 02:39
phobia /dev/hda2               1         829     6658911   83  Linux02:39
Hikaru79Ah, thank you LjL :)02:39
eric__Wait, what is today's date?02:39
phobiaPlease someone help, I hate to be such a bother.02:39
LjLeric__: depends.02:39
Hikaru79I'll assume that ubotu is up-to-date with this.02:39
bimberilol, shortened to 'ef' :)02:39
Flanneljbinder: You can use the package manager via the command line too.02:40
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niallam i supposed to have an application thing up02:40
KGnomeIS There anything like a dos subst for linux, to mount a directory02:40
eck0anyone know how to minimize in games running with cedega02:40
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d-E-u-Sand how i can add the cd drive as source into the sources.list ?02:40
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LjL!ef02:40
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!02:40
Flanneld-E-u-S: which CD?02:40
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r080cy90rhi02:40
ianmacgregord-E-u-S: Did you manually take the cd out of the sources list?02:40
DesolationXcould it be it can't find  my partition?02:40
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eric__That's a 48 hour period of time. ~_~02:40
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LjLbimberi: yeah, i made an alias about 30 seconds after making the factoid itself02:40
Wapsterd-E-u-S: open synaptic ----> sources----> add cdrom.02:40
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jbinderphobia: that's why i make backups of my grub menus before every change02:40
d-E-u-Sin my edgy souces.lsit isnt the cd drive02:41
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bimberiLjL: and no wonder :)02:41
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bond200hi friends02:41
Fujitsujbinder: I prefer it as well. But package managers are also usable through the terminal.02:41
gnomefreakd-E-u-S: join #ubuntu+1 for edgy please02:41
tony_hello , how can i open Nautilus as root ??02:41
jbindertony_: type nautilus?02:41
GIFRATE_DesolationX:  I had mostly the same problem, try installing from the alternative cd (Its you<re still gonna end up with the black screen) but you<ll have access to a console02:41
njantony_, gksudo nautilus02:41
ianmacgregortony_: gksudo nautilus02:41
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nialli really dont have a clue wat to do02:41
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eric__My GUI won't accept input from the keyboard, instead it just beeps at me.  It works fine in the login, as well as TTY1, which is what I'm using.  Suggestions?02:41
bond200alguna persona que sepa como instalar rpm02:42
tony_Thanks..02:42
niallsorry for torturing02:42
function1so, is there no way to edit a screensaver's individual properties?02:42
ianmacgregor!es | bond20002:42
ubotubond200: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:42
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GIFRATE_then try updating your display drivers02:42
Fujitsuniall: Open up Synaptic (System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager), and find flashplugin-nonfree in the listing.02:42
jbinderphobia: you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst02:42
bond200ok02:42
bond200ciao02:42
KGnomeGiving help on porting windows to linux02:42
jbinderbond200: hablas ingles?02:42
bond200a todo s02:42
phobiaI just need to know what the numbers are02:42
r080cy90rciao02:42
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Dr_willisKGnome,  thats got to be 'interesting' project.02:42
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r080cy90rbond you are italian???02:42
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DesolationXGIFRATE: how do i get into the consule and update it02:43
phobia"Type "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub)." I need the harddisk and boot partition numbers02:43
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atalibasome1 can helpme with one wine trick?02:43
animal_jbinder, them, if you prefer doing all through terminal...why use a Linux distro based on package manager(ubuntu)? maybe another distros would be work more according you philosophy...02:43
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r080cy90rexcuse me i have a question02:43
Flannelphobia: That depends on your set up.  Which harddrive is it? and which partition?02:43
dxmanhow do you change the grub file to change the order of my operating systems?02:43
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eric__r080cy90r: just ask it02:43
eric__!question02:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:43
eric__!?02:44
phobiahda2, I'm 99% sure it's the first partition.02:44
function1how does one edit screensaver properties? eg, there is a GLTest screensaver, but there seems to be no way to edit the text02:44
Dr_willisdxman,  reorder the order of the 'stanzas' for the menu items.02:44
eric__...grr.02:44
function1er GLText02:44
phobiaIt starts at the first sector or whatever02:44
bimberieric__: in tty1 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'  to redo keyboard detection02:44
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dxmanwhat do you mean by that02:44
Flannelphobia: hda2 is the second partition, hda is the primary master (on your IDE cable)02:44
GIFRATE_DesolationX:  Ctrl + Alt + Backspace02:44
janga!ubotu02:44
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:44
Dark_L0rdhello guys02:44
Dark_L0rdi need some rule that will allow me to make my box, using iptables rules, to force target where it lands when asks for a specific domain02:44
Dark_L0rdto be more specific, i want when my box does ask for data from for example:   IP1:80 to be redirected automatically and by local rules, to connect to IP2:8080 for example02:44
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Flannelphobia: is it hda2 though? in which case, it'd be (hd0,1) (grub starts at 0, linux starts at 1)02:44
phobiahda1 is my windows partition, hda2 is my ext linux partition, and hda3 is swap02:45
r080cy90ri must extract a file in my home/opt/ folder but ubuntu need the root  i'm the only user02:45
phobiaThank you very much flannel02:45
phobiaI'll try that02:45
FujitsuDark_L0rd: you'd be best of asking elsewhere, I think...02:45
r080cy90rwhat i must make???02:45
Fujitsur080cy90r: prefix the command with `sudo'02:45
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Fujitsu*off02:45
eric__bimberi: okay, now what?02:45
DesolationXGIFRATE:is the alt on this server?02:45
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Dark_L0rdFujitsu why ???02:45
GIFRATE_DesolationX:  but I think you have ton install ubuntu using the alternate cd (at least that's what I did) and then find the information on how to set up ATI drivers using apt-get02:45
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r080cy90rcan i make it in visual mode???02:46
phobiaHmm, same error. I'll try mounting the partition as the guide later mentions. Thanks for your help flannel02:46
r080cy90rnon in terminal mode????02:46
bimberieric__: once finished, restart X - 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart'02:46
Dr_willisr080cy90r,  its worth the effort to learn the shell basics02:46
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Dr_willis!bash02:46
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands02:46
Flannel!ati | GIFRATE_02:46
ubotuGIFRATE_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:46
Fujitsur080cy90r: If you press Alt+F2 and run `gksudo nautilus', it'll give you a root file browser.02:46
dxmanDr_Willis: what did you mean by "Stanza"02:46
danilocesarSomebody knows the Why anjuta 2.0.2 (alpha version that nothing works well) will be released with Ubuntu EDGY?02:46
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r080cy90rthanks02:47
Dr_willisdxman,  look at the grub config.. each menu item is in its own 'section/stanza/paragraph' whatever ya want to call it.02:47
kgeeI have an ipod with permissions 700, user is me, and group is admin. No matter what i do, sudo or not, I cannot change this. I want to change the ownership to all users or chmod 777 it so anyone can plug it in and modify it. Ive tried sudo chmod 777, sudo chown users, sudo chown 100, and a couple other variations with no luck. any ideas as to how to get this device to work for all users?02:47
Dr_willisdxman,   its rather straight forward02:47
dxmanright02:47
GIFRATE_DesolationX:  http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ at the bottom of the page02:47
KGnomeGiving help on porting windows to linux02:47
mikm[laptop] danilocesar Edgy is meant to be "edgy" with newer, potentially unstabe stuff02:47
eric__bimberi: alright, failed to start x server.02:47
Fujitsudanilocesar: Because it seemed like a good idea at the time, probvably.02:47
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FujitsuKGnome: Can you please not repeat that so much?02:47
Dr_williskgee,  you must set the permissions from the fstab with the umask, and other options NOT chmoding the thing.02:47
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mikm[laptop] danilocesar That's one of the reasons Dapper is LTS.  It's solid as a rock02:47
DesolationXThanks all02:47
DesolationXGIFRATE: thanks02:47
kgeeDr_willis: thanks, will look into that, brb02:47
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DesolationXFingers cross lol02:48
GIFRATE_DesolationX:  good luck02:48
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Dr_williskgee,  same as if you were mounting a windows fat32 partition02:48
r080cy90ri try but recived this error """Extraction not performed02:48
r080cy90rYou don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/opt""""02:48
InvisiblePinkUni!edgy02:48
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule02:48
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Dr_williskgee,  example fstab entry -------  >>> /dev/sda1 /media/sda1   vfat    defaults,umask=007,gid=4602:48
InvisiblePinkUni!schedule02:48
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule02:48
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a3rdpartyI think I accidentally killed my boot partition, can anyone anser some questions?02:49
Fujitsur080cy90r: Ah. Try running `gksudo file-roller', the opening the archive from the window that opens up.02:49
ianmacgregorr080cy90r: Several people have told you how to fix that02:49
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Fujitsu!ask02:49
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:49
bimberieric__: argh :( - Did you mostly accept the defaults during the reconfigure?02:49
GIFRATE_!help02:49
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:49
danilocesarYes, but did U try to use Anjuta 2.0.2? Its unusable.... This version is not ready to be on any distribution...02:49
tsolerdabar:02:49
DesolationXGIFRATE: thanks02:49
Fujitsudanilocesar: Complaining here won't achieve anything.02:49
a3rdpartyI'm getting "unable to find volume group "Ubuntu""02:49
eric__bimberi: yes - I just reconfigured again, this time with a success, forgot to select nvidia instead of nv02:49
tsolerdabar:thanks a lot for all02:49
bimberieric__: phew :)02:49
eric__bimberi: still the same problem, I can log in, but it fails to accept keyboard input after that.02:49
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a3rdpartyafter I had tried to mount another part of my boot drive partition02:49
Fujitsua3rdparty: You are using LVM?02:49
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jordanauokay how do i allow the user "jason" recursive permission in the folder /var/www/ ??02:50
bimberieric__: :(02:50
a3rdpartyI'm not sure ...02:50
eyequeuejordan_, add him to a web group you create02:50
gnomefreakdanilocesar: version 2.0.2-2ubuntu1 of anjuta works fine02:50
eric__jordanau: chown jason /var/www -R02:50
danilocesarFujitsu, Yes, I know that... But I need to know the opinion of others users....02:50
eric__:d02:50
Flanneljordanau: you probably don't want to chown.  Add yourself to the www-data group02:50
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Flanneleric__: don't suggest that, it only breaks things.02:51
andrew____hey02:51
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eyequeuejordan_, then chgrp (not chown) -R /var/www02:51
ianmacgregoreric__: That won't be a good idea02:51
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kgeeDr_willis: thanks a lot, now do i need to reset anything to make this take effect? Just umount then mount again im assuming?02:51
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eyequeuejordan_, then chgrp -R web /var/www02:51
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danilocesargnomefreak, I think that you are wrong. Shortcuts, autocomplement, some buttons is not working.... Scintilla crashing... etc etc...02:51
eyequeuejordan_, then chmod -R g+w /var/www02:51
r080cy90rfujitsu can we speak in pvt because im italian and here is all confused and i don't understand what i must to make02:51
gnomefreakdanilocesar: i use it daily02:51
gnomefreakit works just fine here02:52
Dr_williskgee,  ya got it.02:52
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andresmujicadanilocesar.  it would be nice if you report a bug or a series of bugs reporting that.02:52
eric__bimberi: any ideas at all?02:52
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Fujitsur080cy90r: Sure.02:52
jordan_eyequeue, What?02:52
danilocesarandresmujica, I  did it today02:52
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bimberieric__: i'm struggling sorry :/02:52
jordan_eyequeue, I think you meant to be talking to somebody else.02:52
andresmujicathis way you can left a precedence02:52
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eyequeuejordan_, adduser jason web02:53
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cliffdwhat is the config file for md/raid mdadm ?02:53
gnomefreakdanilocesar: #ubuntu+1 ffor edgy also dapper didnt have that version02:53
jordanaueyequeue, perfect thank you02:53
andresmujicaraidtab or mdadm.conf02:53
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cliffdandresmujica: thanks much02:53
jordan_eyequeue, I have no idea what you are talking about :)02:53
eyequeuejordanau, not jordan_02:53
nialldoes ant1 kno wat the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371802:53
danilocesargnomefreak, Shortcuts to  commend code works on your machine? Autocomplemen (CRTL + SPACE) too? (on edgy)02:54
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andresmujicadanilocesar: do you have the bug numbers?02:54
eyequeuejordanau, np02:54
jordanaueyequeue, and now i have WinSCP working... eveything is great02:54
danilocesarandresmujica, yes.. wait a moment02:54
danilocesarandresmujica, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=anjuta&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=02:54
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eric__I command that you release edgy right this instant!02:55
LuisMendesedgy should be out by now!02:55
danilocesarSee the last three bugs reports02:55
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eric__Dun dun dun.  It is a command!  From me!  So you should listen!02:55
eyequeueLuisMendes, no, in maybe 18h02:55
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eyequeueLuisMendes, not until the 26 is over is it late02:55
jordanaueyequeue, now how do i make all files invisible except /var/www/ to the web group02:55
niallW: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371802:55
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Flannelniall: did you use source-o-matic?02:56
jordanaueyequeue, /var/www/ and the /home folder that is...02:56
LuisMendeseyequeue, 18h? it is usually out in less than 7h02:56
eyequeuejordanau, you don't want to do that, as www-data runs apache02:56
eric__My GUI won't accept input from the keyboard, instead it just beeps at me.  It works fine in the login, as well as TTY1, which is what I'm using.  Suggestions?02:56
kgeeDr_willis: the entire device is under /dev/sda, but has 2 partitions sda1 and sda2, so would i just have use /dev/sda in the fstab? or would i have to specify one/both02:56
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nialli really dont have a clue, some1 else installed linux for me02:56
jordanaueyequeue, the user can view everything in all of my folders... even my personal /home... i don't like that02:57
eyequeuejordanau, which user?02:57
jordanaujason of group web02:57
Dr_williskgee,  try sda1 then sda202:57
Flannel!easysource | niall, you'll want to use this to recreate your sources.list, theres instructions at the top of the page to add the GPG keys02:58
ubotuniall, you'll want to use this to recreate your sources.list, theres instructions at the top of the page to add the GPG keys: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:58
andresmujicajordanau: sudo chmod 700 /home/*02:58
eyequeuejordanau, ls -ld /home/you02:58
Dr_williskgee,  for a hard drive typt thing - ya would never use just 'sda'02:58
Dr_williskgee,  try 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda'02:58
eric__Yarrrrrrr.  I'm a pirate.02:58
winstonI lost my "screensaver" item in my systems menu. Is there a way to edit that menu to add "screensaver" back in there?02:58
kgeeDr_willis: that would explain why it didnt work ;)02:58
ianmacgregorFlannel: Wowsers, You just taught me something new about the bot commands :) Thanks02:58
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niallthanx alot02:59
niallwill try now02:59
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jon_Is there a shipit for xubuntu? I see one for every other dist of ubuntu. Is Xubuntu not supported by Canonical or something?02:59
ianmacgregorwinston: right-click the Applications menu, choose "Edit menus" and alacarte should open.02:59
Flannelniall: you don't need to recrate your entire sources.list, just make a freecontrib one (so the URL matches yours) then it'll give you the GPG to add02:59
winstonianmacgregor, thanks03:00
ianmacgregorwinston: np03:00
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jordanaueyequeue, okay he can no longer see my home folder thanks03:00
Flanneljon_: Xubuntu is.  but there's no shipit for it yet03:00
eric__My GUI won't accept input from the keyboard, instead it just beeps at me.  It works fine in the login, as well as TTY1, which is what I'm using.  Suggestions?03:00
winstonwhoa I just discovered that xirc has the tab auto-complete for nicknames-- cool03:00
eyequeuenp03:00
jon_Flannel, ah OK. The likelyhood of you yourself knowing is low, but do you think they're considering it?03:00
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Flanneljon_: I'm sure they are.  Kubuntu only got added to shipit in Dapper.03:01
winstonianmacgregor,  it looks like my "screensaver" menu is not on the list, perhaps it has been deleted? Any ideas on how to get it back?03:01
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simtowerubuntu sucks with scanners03:01
darkgamer20simtower: really? ubuntu detected mine and it worked on the first try03:02
ianmacgregorwinston: You can add a new menu item for it in alacarte03:02
simtowerconsider yourself lucky03:02
Vichok03:02
eric__HAHAHAHAHAH! I FIXED IT.03:02
Vichthis is gonna sound stupid03:02
LjL!caps03:02
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.03:02
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eric__Lawl, whoops.03:02
Vichbut I deleted my cdrom03:02
eric__I'm just excited.03:02
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jordanaueyequeue, is it worth creating a private key or not since this is over openssh ?03:02
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Vichhow can I get it back?03:02
picassohi.. whats the best way to get firefox 2 on 6.06?03:02
winstonianmacgregor,  I dont see an option to add those that are not already listed03:02
Vich(insert hysterical laughter here)03:02
eyequeuejordanau, i would, but what context is this in?03:03
eric__It turned out to be that somehow, it was only accepting keys that had been pressed for more than 300ms03:03
ianmacgregorwinston: You have to add new items manually.. it's not hard.03:03
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eric__Thanks for everyone's help.03:03
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eric__:)03:03
Flannel!firefox | picasso, use the first link, same steps, different version.03:03
ubotupicasso, use the first link, same steps, different version.: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins03:03
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jordanaueyequeue, he and i are going to make a website and i simply want us both to have access to my LAMP server03:03
andresmujicapicasso download it and put it on /opt/firefox, then make a symlink03:03
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andresmujicathat's the less intrusive one.03:03
winstonianmacgregor, i've no clue on how to add it, the menu layout does not appear intuitive03:03
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Vichfine, I'll figure it out myself03:03
picassoandresmujica: where do you link /opt to03:04
picassoi have no /opt03:04
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Deus42Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to set the runlevel at boot in edgy. Does anyone have any ideas to point me in the right direction?03:04
CrescendoHehehe, and now I have my XChat back.03:04
picasso/usr/opt ?03:04
eyequeuejordanau, jey-based auth is a bit safer, but it's up to you, the other works as well03:04
CrescendoThanks everyone again (eric___ ))03:04
jordanaupicasso, you can also wait a couple of days for 6.10 to be released, it is on there03:04
picasso/usr/local/opt ?03:04
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eyequeuejordanau, key-03:04
andresmujicano /opt03:04
andresmujica/opt03:04
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picassoi have no /opt03:04
FlannelVich: remounting it will probably work.  What did you delete?  probably just the desktop icon? (does removing/reinserting the disk put it back?)03:04
ianmacgregorwinston: Go to the menu you want to add to, then click File -> New Entry and fille in the blanks.03:04
jordanaueyequeue, again thanks03:04
picassowhich partition should /opt be linked to03:05
picassoim guessing /usr ?03:05
picasso/opt -> /usr/opt or /usr/local/opt03:05
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eyequeueDeus42, runlevels 2 3 4 5 are identical in debian, which basically ignores such03:05
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picassooh haha jk03:06
picassoi do have /opt.. forgot i was checking on a freebsd shell03:06
winstonianmacgregor, thats the prob, I dont have any file-- new entry options in my menu03:06
picassodustin_:03:06
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d-E-u-Si will install the gcc-3.4 but for this i need the libc6 he says, when i install the .deb libc6 comes an error03:06
d-E-u-S/bin/sh: /lib/libc.so.6: version "GLIB_2.4" not found (requred by /bin/sh)03:06
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Pabloooohi i need urgent help with a ghost image from a ubuntu server, the hard disk died and now iver replaced it with a new one03:06
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winstonianmacgregor, in the menu editor there's no right click possible and the help is disabled03:06
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eyequeuejordanau, np03:07
Pabloooobut when i boot the server it says "grub" and doenst boot03:07
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winstonianmacgregor,  i found a section called screen and it seems to refer to the screensaver although its already checked and I still dont see it in my menus hmm03:07
ianmacgregorwinston: Are you in the app called alacarte?03:07
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ianmacgregorwinston: The title bar says "Alacarte Menu Editor"03:08
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winstonianmacgregor,  i dont think so, i have something called menu editor that pops up when i right click on the menus in the upper left as you said03:08
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winstonianmacgregor, mine just says edit menus03:08
ianmacgregorwinston: Which distro/version are you in?03:09
winstondapper03:09
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ianmacgregorwinston: Right-click the Applications menu *button*, choose Edit Menus from that and alacarte will open for you to edit the menus03:09
suddseHello! I've noticed over the time that my GNOME has started up successively slower. ANY HELP?!?! I mean, any suggestions on making it fast again? : )03:09
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d-E-u-Si will install the gcc-3.4 but for this i need the libc6 he says, when i install the .deb libc6 comes an error03:11
d-E-u-S/bin/sh: /lib/libc.so.6: version "GLIB_2.4" not found (requred by /bin/sh)03:11
winstonianmacgregor, yeah thats where i was, i still dont see screensaver, only something called screen and a sub menu called saver03:11
winstonianmacgregor, they are both already checked in the menu editor yet i dont see the in sytems menu03:12
Alakazamz0r!edgy03:13
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule03:13
Deus42thanks ubotu03:13
ianmacgregorwinston: Go to the bottom of the left pane, you'll see Administration and Preferences, click one of those two and then click File -> New Entry. this will allow you to create a new menu item in the menu you clicked in the left pane.03:13
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azurealdoes anyone happen to know where I can get the courier font?03:14
winstonian I found it... dont ask me why but the screensaver is located in Applications/Debian/screen/save is that normal?03:14
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azurealpreferably as few packages as possible03:14
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winstonianmacgregor,  I found it... dont ask me why but the screensaver is located in Applications/Debian/screen/save is that normal?03:14
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ianmacgregorwinston: I don't have the debian menus, so I can't say whether or not it's normal03:14
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grouthow can i update the locate db?03:15
simtowerheh i am going back to windows03:15
eyequeuegrout, sudo updatedb03:15
ianmacgregorwinston: I *can* tell you that it doesn't come that way out-of-the-box03:15
eyequeuegrout, sudo update-slocatedb  if you have slocate03:15
winstonianmacgregor,  oh well thanks for the info-- I guess this solves my problem even thought its somewhat of a mystery03:16
ianmacgregoreyequeue: sudo updatedb03:16
h3htimosimtower, why are you going back to windows??03:16
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winstonIs there a BIG difference with the Edgy upgrade?03:16
simtowerh3htimo, too much work to get stuff working under ubuntu03:17
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winstonI'm updating both my PC and my Powerbook (ubuntu onn my powerbook G3 did not run well )03:17
simtowerscanner, printer, laptop special features... so many hours i will never get back03:18
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h3htimosimtower, yeah, but u will appreciate your system much more when ur done03:18
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simtoweri will settle with something that works correctly without wasting my time03:19
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dnitehm. well.. it apears that firefox itself uses your gtk theme to style it's 'widgets' .. but any widgets in html get a nice and ugly .. non-theme.. anyone know of a way to fix this?? It's not a huge deal, but i'd really love to be able to fix this...03:19
jvaih3htimo: sooo tru...03:19
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DigitalNinjaI'm trying to get a video card working03:20
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jordan_DigitalNinja, What kind?03:20
RaV|Stranglerok so the alt cd worked03:20
RaV|Stranglerthanks03:20
-dean703:#ubuntu- asdf03:20
h3htimojvai, i finally got my sound working and i wont be back to windows for a while03:20
DigitalNinjageforce nx760003:20
Vichis the problem with Gaim crashing (seg fault) in the latest Ubuntu a known problem?03:20
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Vichthe only solution I've read is to upgrade Gaim03:20
AfterDeathoh wtf03:21
RaV|Stranglerwhy wont it automatically connect to the wireless network03:21
Vichlol03:21
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AfterDeathomt03:21
VichI had so much trouble getting my computer to connect to the wireless network03:21
DigitalNinjajordan_: I get the following in my logs when booting: pcie_portdrv_probe->Dev[02fb:10de]  has invalid IRQ. Check vendor BIOS03:21
Vich:S03:21
RaV|Strangler:-(03:21
cartuferrav, cause there could be hidden or other networks03:21
vzorichi are those http://www.ubuntu.com/news/EdgyReleaseCandidate full releases of 6.10 ?03:21
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jvaii hear u, i just upgraded to dapper last nyte from hoary, & java, works, & dvd play is less jumpy03:21
RaV|Stranglerdid you ever get it connected?03:21
RaV|Stranglermy network it open03:21
jordan_DigitalNinja, Are you using the proprietary drivers?03:21
speedyedgy going to be released today?03:22
Flannel!ef03:22
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!03:22
DigitalNinjajordan_: Yup03:22
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marthyyeah it looks like it03:22
marthyyay EDGY!03:22
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ashzillaWHen does Edgy come out?03:22
aztektumit's out03:22
aztektumgoogle it03:22
vzoricFlannel, and today we are? 26th !03:22
DigitalNinjajordan_: I'm using the card now. However, if I play a 3D game it locks up03:22
LjL!ef | ashzilla03:22
ubotuashzilla: Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!03:22
marthytoday/tomorrow depending when you are03:22
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Flannelvzoric: read the rest of the factoid03:22
marthy*where03:22
phire_mIRCI just can't wait03:22
LjLaztektum: no, it's not03:22
aztektumyeh i know03:23
RaV|Stranglervich how did you get it connected03:23
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jvaiwill edgy be a smooth upgrade from dapper? not like from hoary to breezy?03:23
vzoricFlannel, then what is this on that url which i gave you03:23
jordan_DigitalNinja, I don't know to be honest, mabe somebody else can help03:23
Flanneljvai: you can upgrade with update-manager, painlessly (assuming everything goes well), yes.03:23
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Flannelvzoric: those are release candidates, not finals.03:24
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Kawaii-Pandajvai: i doubt that. i had to delete my old dapper partition just to install edgy beta. T_T03:24
vzoricFlannel, ahh ok, ty03:24
azurealyea, edgy is not out..03:24
jvaiyeea, i hope using easyubuntu didnt add anything that may break during the upgrade to edgy03:24
dustindoes anyone know if its possible to switch between metacity and beryl on the command line?03:24
RaV|Stranglercan anyone share some insight on how I can get connected to my wireless network03:24
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azurealer... easyubuntu is just what... codecs? lol03:25
FlannelRaV|Strangler: you try the wireless howto?03:25
RaV|Stranglerwhere's that?03:25
d-E-u-Sgn803:25
RaV|Stranglerubuntu?03:25
Flannel!wireless03:25
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:25
jvaiyea i think @ azureal03:25
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RaV|Stranglerthank you03:25
vzoricFlannel, do you know if i ship free cds do i need to pay shipment or its everything free?03:25
Flanneldustin: yes.  As to how, I have no idea.03:25
DigitalNinjajordan_: thanks03:25
dustinhmm ok03:26
Flannelvzoric: what? you mean shipit?  everything is free.03:26
reikiso ... does edgey have built-in compiz-like visual toys?03:26
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Flanneldustin: you might try #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl03:26
temptedreiki:  yes03:26
dustinyea beryl is dead, ill try the other =) thanks03:26
vzoricFlannel, becouse it sounds pretty funny, nothing is free today :D03:26
RaV|StranglerI have to use another computer?03:26
dustin(ts just quiet i mean)03:26
jordan_reiki, sort of...03:26
azurealjvai, codecs will change how you view your video or listen to your audio, but they def. should not cause anything to break03:26
Fujitsutempted: No...03:26
jvaikawwaii as is, would u use edgy in a work environment?03:26
Flannelreiki: they're not enabled by defult03:26
azurealanything system-related.03:26
reikitempted: I was all happy cause I installed edgey into a VM on my 6.06 host.... forgot it uses the VM display driver :)03:26
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jvaiazureal.. i'll see soon...03:27
nailerreiki, hehe03:27
temptedreiki: don't know if you can do that... never tried03:27
Kawaii-Pandajvai: yeah - thats why i installed it. it looks so cool, and it hadnt broken yet for me.03:27
azurealthat's actually one of the next things i need to do... play w/ easyubuntu =P03:27
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jvaiis it a fastr boot up/ shut down kawaii03:27
Kawaii-Pandayep03:28
jvaiwow03:28
Kawaii-Pandathe splash screen looks bad now though.03:28
Kawaii-Pandathey changed it to silver.03:28
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jvaii just got dapper in this box last nyte.... from hoary... it's more stable like03:29
reikiwell... time for bed. I'll upgrade after work tomorrow and try to pop in here during the day at work to ask my dumb questions. :)03:29
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jvaiazureal.. easyubuntu is muuuch easier than bfore....03:29
jvaii got everything working on this t4003:30
FujitsuKawaii-Panda: Which splash screen are you referring to?03:30
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azurealoh, i know.  i just need to spend a few minutes doing other things first.03:30
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Kawaii-Pandathe updated one.03:30
azureallike obtaining a font that's sort of like courier03:30
Kawaii-Pandathe beta's original was still the brown splash.03:30
Kawaii-Panda*beta's original splash*03:31
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jvaiok uall STARBUCK'S about to kick me out.. it's almost 10pm... see uall when i get home.03:31
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FujitsuKawaii-Panda: They reverted to the Dapper artwork a while ago..03:32
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Kawaii-Pandai dont know, fujitsu, but my splash screen just changed like that after an update notification.03:32
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InnerFIREdoes anyone use ekiga?03:32
tony_dose anyone knows how to install GD for PHP ???03:33
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Kawaii-Pandathe update also gave me some new screensavers, icons and a gdm theme along with it.03:33
Fujitsutony_: Install php5-gd03:33
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tony_THANKS03:33
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tony_do i have to reboot inorder for php5-gd to take effect ??03:35
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dabaR!hi03:36
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!03:36
dibblegowhy does my notebook sometimes never return from Suspend or sometimes when it does, a window will not open?03:36
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Fujitsutony_: No. Are you using Apache?03:37
Tatey!edgy03:37
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dabaRdibblego: "a" window?03:37
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treedreamerhey,everyone,is ubuntu edgy out ?03:37
tony_yes03:37
Fujitsu!edgyfinal03:37
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!03:37
Fujitsutony_: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload03:37
Fujitsutony_: That should fix it.03:37
tony_thanks will try now03:37
dibblegodabaR, yes, every time I try to open an application, the window never eventuates ("Starting application...")03:37
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specialbuddyhow do I find out how much space I left on my harddrive03:38
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tony_Thanks, that worked well.03:38
ehazlett@specialbuddy df -h03:38
dabaRdibblego: maybe it does not support that suspend or sleep or whatever, did you look at its model's hardwaresupport wiki site?03:38
dibblegodabaR, nup :) I will03:39
Fujitsutony_: no problem.03:39
dabaRdibblego: post the link here03:39
specialbuddythanks03:39
ehazlettnp03:39
dibblegodabaR, the link to what?03:39
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dabaRto the wiki page for the laptop03:40
dibblegohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell03:40
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sorush20!edgy03:41
dabaRdibblego: which one?03:41
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule03:41
dibblegodabaR, Inspiron 640003:41
sorush20is edgy out/03:41
dabaRubotu, no edgy is read the topic, or go to #ubuntu+103:42
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iratsu_!schedule03:42
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule03:42
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kupesoftWhat time can we expect the edgy release?03:43
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kupesoftGMT, that is03:43
ajmitchkupesoft: when it's ready03:43
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sorush20how can I opne .mdi files?03:43
Fujitsu!edgy03:43
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Fujitsu!edgyfinal03:44
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!03:44
FujitsuThat's better.03:44
kupesoft>;03:44
kupesoftTHEY SHOULD KNOW.  I'M ANXIOUS!03:44
Fujitsu!caps03:44
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.03:44
sethkkupesoft, you should always wait _at least_ two weeks after a release, not counting the hours.03:44
sethkkupesoft, what difference will edgy make to you?03:44
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laserlinewhat's the chmod command to chmod all my files and folders within a folder to 77703:44
bimberiFujitsu: there's also an !ef alias :)03:44
kupesoftPhilosphical difference,03:44
Noah0504I need a RSS aggregator that can download files embedded in the feed.  For example, Revision3 has vidcast feeds...03:44
redcardNot much of one, kupesoft03:45
Kawaii-Pandakupetsoft: dont forget the faster boot times03:45
Fujitsulaserline: chmod -R 777 whatever03:45
sethklaserline, you shouldn't use numbers.  chmod -R changes a directory and all its files03:45
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kupesoftI need php5.1.6-cli03:45
kupesoftand python2.503:45
Fujitsusethk: Why not?03:45
Kawaii-Pandathe livecd booted like thunder compared to the last one (about 15x faster, wild guess)03:45
sethkFujitsu, because there are always issues with a new release.  let other people be the test animals03:45
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pluto_Need some help with ISA sound card.. Please help.03:45
sethkkupesoft, you don't have to upgrade the entire distro just to get those two things03:45
redcardsethk: Personally, I'm liking it.03:45
Fujitsusethk: I mean about not using numbers :P03:45
laserlinesethk: what do you mean I shouldn't use numbers?03:45
sethkFujitsu, oh, very bad practice.  error prone.  use the symbols, that's what they are for03:46
sethklaserline, a+rwx, for example03:46
FujitsuI'd say symbols are more error prone.03:46
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sethkFujitsu, you'd be wrnog03:46
sethkwrong03:46
FujitsuEasier to get 3 characters right than a lot more.03:46
sethkFujitsu, not the typing, the calculating.03:46
redcardBut what if I want rw for only user, but x for all three, sethk?03:47
sethkFujitsu, one of the core principles of software engineering.  never use numbers03:47
laserlinesethk: I'm still kinda new to Ubuntu... is there a doc that explains all these commands... chmod --help didn't really *help* that much :)03:47
sethkredcard, u+rw,a+x03:47
Fujitsulaserline: man chmod will be better, most likely.03:47
ianmacgregorredcard: chmod 755 file03:47
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dabaRsethk: that is way mmore error prone...03:47
redcardsethk: But what if I'm such a pro that I automatically know what that is numerically?03:47
specialbuddydoes anyone here have a good recommendation for a gaming laptop?03:48
sethkredcard, then you are deceiving yourself03:48
redcardsethk: No.  I think you're deceiving people.03:48
specialbuddyit might be off topic but I was thinking about getting a laptop03:48
dabaRredcard: ya, probably deceiving them03:48
sethkredcard, not at all.  go to any uni, ask any professor03:48
Fujitsuspecialbuddy: It is offtopic, maybe try -offtopic.03:48
redcardDo it whatever way works best.  Understand that numerically is the standard, and that any other method might not be standard03:49
laserlinespecialbuddy: doesn't system76.com sell laptops?  Don't know howt hey are for games, but if I remember correctly the graphics card seemed to be decent03:49
Fujitsusethk: I find the numbers vastly preferable. Quicker to type, more sensible, more definite.03:49
sethkFujitsu, good thing you aren't working for me, I simply won't allow it.03:49
specialbuddythanks laserline03:49
ianmacgregorFujitsu: I agree03:49
specialbuddyI'll check it out03:49
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Fujitsusethk: You won't allow people to use a more concise, sensible form of a command?03:49
redcardsethk: I advise you to check out the code, then :)  It converts all those u+rw's and such to numbers.03:49
redcardAnd it always has :)03:49
sethkFujitsu, absolutely not, when it is error prone.03:49
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sethkredcard, of course it does03:49
sethkredcard, that's the entire point03:50
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sethkredcard, you don't get it at _all_03:50
Fujitsusethk: It is not error prone if you know what you're doing.03:50
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sethkredcard, the program will convert it correctly.  that's why you use symbols03:50
redcardsethk: Oh.. so now you're insulting the intelligence of someone you've NEVER met.03:50
sethkFujitsu, simply not true.03:50
sethkredcard, has nothing to do with intelligence03:50
redcardsethk: Then you're calling me ignorant?03:50
sethkredcard, no, just wrong03:50
sethkredcard, but that's ok, it's very common with younger sys admins.  they learn, eventually03:51
redcardsethk: You're cute.  How long have you been doing the linux thing?03:51
dabaRspecialbuddy: check out the hardware support pages on the wiki03:51
tritiumsethk: no, not any professor, only professors in C.S.03:51
SpudDoggDoes anyone know how to find out what chipset my wireless card uses?03:51
redcardYou sound very new at it.03:51
ianmacgregorOk, let's all just use that which works for each of us. OK? This is not the palce to argue which is right or wrong.03:51
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sethkredcard, well, I've been doing unix for about 35 years03:51
sethkredcard, linux hasn't been around that long, of course,03:51
tritiumredcard, sethk: take it to -offtopic, please03:51
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redcardThen you're an idiot if you haven't learned that unix prides itself on having multiple ways to do things.  You're either a liar, or an idiot, and neither are worth time.  Final answer, do it whatever way works03:51
specialbuddydabaR, on the system76 page?03:51
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SpudDoggDoes anyone know how to find out what chipset my wireless card uses?03:52
LjL!language | redcard03:52
uboturedcard: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:52
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dibblegoSpudDogg, lspci03:52
sethkredcard, I have not insulted anyone, and it would really be best if you would restrain yourself.03:52
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Kawaii-Pandaits a matter of choice really, the numbers are faster to type and good when you are in a hurry, while the letters are easier to remember for beginners and preferable when you havent think of the number combinations first.03:52
CrescendoIs there a version of Ubuntu WITHOUT the LiveCD?03:52
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LjL!alternate | Crescendo03:52
ubotuCrescendo: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.03:52
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sethkCrescendo, there is the alternate install cd03:52
dabaRhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport03:53
dabaRdibblego: looks like edgy has support for it.03:53
dabaRFujitsu: buying a laptop to install ubuntu on it is offtopic?03:53
dabaRwhy is this channel so quiet few hours before edgy is released?03:53
sethkCrescendo, the previous version had the install separate from the live cd03:53
CrescendoLink to the Alternate?03:53
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CrescendoLooking for the Dapper Version.03:53
FujitsudabaR, I believe so, it isn't Ubuntu support.03:53
sethkCrescendo, same places that have the others03:53
LjLCrescendo: same page as the main cd03:53
redcarddabaR: Because it's not a few hours shy of release ;)03:53
Kawaii-PandadabaR: its called the quiet before the storm :)03:53
dabaRI was lagging...03:53
sethkCrescendo, there are three, server, live, and alternate03:53
redcardit could be any time zone :)03:53
specialbuddyedgy is being released?03:53
dabaR5 mins.03:53
LjLyes, there's a bit of lag around03:53
dabaRso I was like, wth...03:53
sethkLjL, ther   e     i    s   ?03:54
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LjLsethk, please remind me to tell you "yes" in about 10 minutes03:54
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ianmacgregorLjL: lol03:54
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specialbuddyis edgy going to be worth getting?03:55
redcardspecialbuddy: Depends on what you want :)03:55
specialbuddywhat is it going to have that is needed?03:55
Fujitsuspecialbuddy: No. It's completely useless, that's why it's being released and there have been thousands of volunteer-hours spent on it.03:55
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redcardspecialbuddy: Just an upgrade :)03:55
SpudDoggDoes anyone know what to look for in the lspci list to find out my wireless card's chipset?  All i see is intel, blah blah.  there is no name i reognize.03:56
specialbuddywhy did they spend so much time on something useless Fujitsu03:56
sethkSpudDogg, you can put it on the paste site, and we can tell you.  usually the manufacturer and the model is all you need03:56
Kawaii-Pandaspecialbuddy: the faster bootup might be enough to get you to upgrade.03:56
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LeoStewartCould someone tell me what I will need to do to dist upgrade?03:56
redcardThere are a lot of things under the hood for Edgy.03:57
Kawaii-Pandaand the fact that you get better upgraded, software03:57
Kawaii-Pandaand firefox 2.003:57
dabaR!upgrade03:57
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:57
specialbuddyit's going to have firefox 203:57
specialbuddynice03:57
SpudDoggsethk, all it says is ' Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 1092 (rev 02)'03:57
LeoStewartcheers, will take a look.03:57
sethkspecialbuddy, releases happen periodically.  with the amount of software in a large distro, there are frequent updates to many things.03:57
specialbuddyso edgy is coming out tonight?03:57
r080cy90rwhat string i must insert in fstab file for have the permission for writing on my /opt/ mount point?????03:57
SpudDogg!pastebin03:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:57
aBiNgyeah03:57
sethkSpudDogg, I'll look that up for you, hold on, but that looks like a normal, not wireless, ethernet.03:57
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redcardTho firefox 2 doesn't have much that's really drawing me to it03:57
sethkSpudDogg, but let me check it.03:57
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sethkredcard, some of the extensions I like aren't available for ff 2 yet, also.03:58
Kawaii-Pandaredcard: it has lots. check out their website www.getfirefox.com03:58
r080cy90rhei there is someone who can give me hand????03:58
zissanhello i am waiting for ubuntu 6.1003:58
redcardI have, Kawaii-Panda .. I just haven't found things I like :P03:58
dabaRspecialbuddy: tomorrow if you are in n.a.03:58
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Kawaii-Pandaim initially attracted to the search bar and the phishing filter03:58
Kawaii-Pandathe new search bar is very maneuverable.03:59
r080cy90rpleaz03:59
sethkSpudDogg, that's the PRO/100 VE Network controller03:59
redcardKawaii-Panda: I guess I don't know what that means.03:59
sethkKawaii-Panda, the filter is definitely interesting03:59
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r080cy90ri become crazy pleaz03:59
blazemongerhow much longer until edgy is released03:59
specialbuddyn. a.?03:59
dabaRr080cy90r: nice03:59
r080cy90rwhat string i must insert for have the permission for writing on my /opt/ mount point?????04:00
Kawaii-Pandaand its based off the newer version of the mozilla engine(gecko) which means it's faster04:00
dabaRr080cy90r: insert where?04:00
r080cy90rif you know dabaR04:00
SpudDoggsethk, its a long list, but here is the complete.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28365/04:00
dabaRspecialbuddy: north america04:00
r080cy90rin the fstab file04:00
LeoStewartI'm sure this question has been asked a lot tonight, but does anyone know when Edgy is supposed to be released?  As in, how many hours?04:00
sethkSpudDogg, I found the ethernet ID for you already.04:00
specialbuddythats what I thought04:00
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bimberiLeoStewart: no04:01
Kawaii-Pandathe search bar is the little box you see in the top right corner, it kind of searches sites you select automatically with whatever you type there. in the new bar, you can actually edit the sites in there and arrange them however you like.04:01
dabaRr080cy90r: what are you mounting in /opt? A windows partition or what?04:01
redcardKawaii-Panda: Well, most of the "new features" were already present in Firefox 1.5 or were easily added with extensions, I guess..04:01
sethkSpudDogg, or do you have both wired and wireless, and aren't sure which is which?04:01
SpudDoggsethk, i need to know what chipset the internal wireless is using04:01
LeoStewartbimberi: alright, thanks.04:01
blazemongerLeoStewart:my birthday is on the day ubuntu edgy is released04:01
sethkSpudDogg, ok04:01
dabaRr080cy90r: and post your fstab to paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:01
redcardKawaii-Panda: You could do that before..04:01
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SpudDoggsethk, thank you for the help, by the way04:01
r080cy90rno i must put inside some files because i can't have the permission04:01
LeoStewartblazemonger: that's not really an answer to my question, but happy birthday all the same! :D04:01
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dabaRr080cy90r: ya, I thought so04:01
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blazemongerLeoStewat:i'm 34..heh..it's crazy how Ubuntu got famous so quick04:02
Artemis3my bday was yesterday T_T04:02
r080cy90rexcuse me i'm italian can you let me understand in easy english04:02
blazemongereven a friend of mine that used to say "Linux sucks" he's even impressed with Ubuntu04:02
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Kawaii-Pandayeah, i know. but i like it better now.04:02
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J_Phi all04:02
LeoStewartblazemonger: yeah, I have no idea what convinced me to try Linux, but I'm definitely glad I did.04:03
SpudDoggsethk, sorry man, that list is in there twice04:03
sethkSpudDogg, the intel 1092 is definitely the wired interface.04:03
r080cy90rmi opt is only a piece of ext3 hd ... where i install my ubuntu dist04:03
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Kawaii-Pandamostly because of the speedups, and the fact that i only need to install only 1 extension to suit my needs.04:03
Kawaii-Pandainstead of the 5 i used ion 1.504:03
blazemongerLeone:my friend is switching to it to contribute midi sequencing software to the open source world04:03
J_Ptoday is release of ubuntu 6.10 right ?04:03
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redcardKawaii-Panda: They didn't fix the memleak issue tho04:03
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dabaRJ_P: depends on where you are in the world04:03
dob1hi04:03
J_PdabaR: heheeh brazil04:04
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bimberiJ_P: if 'today' for you is Oct 26 then yes04:04
Leonewhat blazemonger04:04
dob1is easyubuntu a part of ubuntu or an external project ?04:04
sethkSpudDogg, the wireless is Intel 3945ABG04:04
dabaRWed Oct 25 21:14:32 CDT 200604:04
J_Pyes 2604:04
bimberidob1: external04:04
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r080cy90rdabaR???04:04
SpudDoggsethk, yea i just found that...i'll google around04:04
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Kawaii-Pandaredcard: hmmm... probably never gonna be fixed. anyway, epiphany and other browsers are always around for low-memory systems.04:04
SpudDoggsethk, thank you for the help man!04:04
sethkSpudDogg, fairly new intel wireless chip.04:04
J_Pwell, but in large part of the world is 26 today, but ubuntu page yet are 6.0.604:04
dob1bimberi: it will install deb package using the script?04:04
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dabaRr080cy90r: mount it with the -ousers flag04:04
sethkSpudDogg, I think it's backward compatible with earlier intel, but don't quote me.04:04
redcardEpiphany actually uses the same gecko engine firefox does :)04:04
bimberidob1: idk sorry, i've never used it04:04
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r080cy90rcan we speak in pvt im goin crazy here!!!!!04:05
dob1ok :)04:05
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redcardSo it meets my purpose.   I wish that browsers would stop trying to do RSS tho04:05
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dabaRr080cy90r: or show us what your fstab file looks like, we will edit it for you to be proper, you can paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org. Relax04:05
dabaR!pm04:06
ubotuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.04:06
sethkredcard, why?  you don't need to use the RSS04:06
SpudDoggsethk, ok, i got it now.   for some reason, i assumed that would be using ralink, atheros, broadcom, etc...04:06
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sethkSpudDogg, they are cheaper chips, so more common.04:06
r080cy90rok now i paste in on that url04:06
Kawaii-Pandaredcard: actually i like the rss integration, although i never use it, i redirect firefox rss i like to my bloglines account.04:06
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SpudDoggsethk, the intel is cheaper?04:06
sethkSpudDogg, no, more expensive04:06
redcardKawaii-Panda: Yeah.. that could work.04:06
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sethkSpudDogg, that's why you see more of the atheros, etc.04:06
dabaRpaste the URL of the page your paste is on here, r080cy90r04:07
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r080cy90ri don't understand04:07
Kawaii-Pandait should. bloglines made an extension to do that same day as 2.0 was released.04:07
SpudDoggsethk, am i wrong in thinking that the atheros cards are the best?  i know atheros is usually the best supported in linux.  also, do you know if the intel can be used for things like packet injection?04:07
LeoStewartAfter looking at the Ubuntu Wiki, could someone tell me the difference between "Upgrading using Update Manager" and "Upgrading using apt-get" ?04:08
sethkSpudDogg, I haven't used that particular intel chip, but the other intel chips can be used for injection and I'm sure this one can also.04:08
redcardLeoStewart: There isn't one, really04:08
dabaRLeoStewart: difference how? it is totally different, and that is why there are 2 guides.04:08
sethkSpudDogg, atheros support isn't even in the kernel distribution from kernel.org, its 3rd party04:08
kmitch87LeoStewart: update manager is just a gui for apt-get04:08
phire_mIRCsomehow I don't think I'll get edgy by the end of today...04:08
SpudDoggsethk, would you happen to know where to get driver patches or whatever i need to use this card with the aircrack-ng suite?04:08
sethkSpudDogg, I prefer to stay with things in the mainline kernel distro, not because they are better, but because they are more tested.04:08
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r080cy90rhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28366/04:09
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LeoStewartOh, well the "Update Manager" guide looks simpler... is this true?04:09
mikm[laptop] phire_mIRC It IS still the 25th in many places04:09
dabaRphire_mIRC: we won't let your ip update unless you change the mirc nick;P04:09
r080cy90rok  now i understand04:09
sethkSpudDogg, not off hand.  I can ask some people at work tomorrow.04:09
SpudDoggsethk, dont worry man, i'll just google around04:09
phire_mIRCyes, but my day is quickly running out04:09
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sethkSpudDogg, ok.  I'm working on a wireless modem for the last couple of months, so I haven't been following the chips closely04:09
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kmitch87LeoStewart: yes, if you don't like the command line04:09
ds5wow.. ubuntu has a lot of idlers04:09
redcardKawaii-Panda: I'll give bloglines a run :)  I've heard good things04:09
r080cy90rhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28366/04:10
SpudDoggsethk, well, thank you for all the help man04:10
LeoStewartkmitch87: cheers.04:10
redcardBut I've always been afraid that something like that will go away04:10
dabaRr080cy90r: you do not have anything about the /opt mount point, nor the device, i.e. /dev/hdb1. Did you try mounting this before?04:10
r080cy90rfstab file  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28366/04:10
NooZis any 'easy' trick on creating a partition ext3 on instalation in a Sata HDD ?04:10
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Kawaii-Pandaredcard: :D04:10
dabaRr080cy90r: don't repeat yourself within 3 minutes.04:10
blazemongermm no particular date when edgy's released04:10
Kawaii-Pandawhoa... what happened to my smiley :-$04:10
sethkNooZ, I don't know what you are asking.  It isn't difficult to do, but there aren't any tricks involved.04:10
shah02how can i map the super key (windows key) to ctrl+alt04:10
r080cy90ri must have the permission04:10
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r080cy90rin mnt/hd104:11
r080cy90ris the same04:11
NooZubuntu crash on install when he's creating the ext304:11
Kawaii-Pandashah02: whyd you want to do that?04:11
sethkr080cy90r, to mount, modify fstab, etc., you need to be root.04:11
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r080cy90rthe important thing is i can write on it04:11
sethkNooZ, that's an SATA Problem, not anything specific to ext304:11
britt_how can i watch tv on linux04:11
sethkNooZ, it's a lower level write problem with the SATA driver.04:12
ds5wow... an irc channel where real talk happens <304:12
shah02Kawaii-Panda: simplicity, super+D is easier than ctrl+alt+d, etc etc, you get the idea04:12
britt_i need a program to config the tuner settings, mplayer doesnt work04:12
r080cy90rok i must write gksudo ?????after04:12
r080cy90rbefore excuse04:12
redcardbritt_: TvTime, I think..04:12
sethkr080cy90r, that's one way, yes04:12
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NooZsethk more fun is that I've install few weeks ago without any problem :o04:12
r080cy90rand then04:12
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britt_gives me something to do till mythtv compiles04:12
britt_sigh...04:12
r080cy90rwhat i must modify in fstab file to have permission???04:12
Kawaii-Pandasethk: im using a SATA disk and it's filesystem is ext3, i dont find anything wrong with it...04:12
condoritogood evening04:13
sethkNooZ, I've run into this before, and I see also that it is somewhat intermittent04:13
dabaRgood evening04:13
sethkKawaii-Panda, not all sata, the problem is specific to a chipset04:13
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condoritoi need some help04:13
sethkKawaii-Panda, unfortunately it's the chipset in one of my motherboards  :)04:13
britt_DMA, how is it enabled at boot?04:13
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condoritorunning cd live user04:13
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NooZmy laptop sucks :p04:13
condoritoon ubuntu 6.0604:13
Kawaii-Pandashah0204:13
sethkbritt_, it's enabled by default.04:13
sethkbritt_, it can be turned off in the BIOS on most machines04:13
condoritoBuffer I/O error on device dm-4, logical block 629294304:14
condorito24/10/2006 09:58:29 p.m. dollarisyourfriend@hotmail.com la_cabeza01@hotmail.com 4 8 15 16 23 42 + Execute04:14
sethkbritt_, and there is a kernel boot argument that can be used to turn it off04:14
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sethkbritt_, and you can also modify the drive settings with smartctl and hdparm04:14
Artemis3redcard, i do that with mencoder (mplayer)04:14
Kawaii-Pandawhy not just change the shortcut keys to super/meta + d instead of mapping the win key to ctrl+alt?04:14
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sethkbritt_, what specifically do you need to do w.r.t. DMA?04:14
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redcardArtemis3: I was thinkin bout that.  Mplayer and cron.04:15
britt_i need it for myth04:15
redcardThe TV Card is actually a WinTV 350.. so..04:15
britt_why isnt my card working04:15
britt_i have a 15004:15
sethkcondorito, you can try turning off dma, or slowing it down.04:15
britt_it picks it up and everything04:15
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britt_i cant find any channels tho04:15
britt_on either card04:15
redcardbritt_: Hmm.  I had problems with the 150.. I'd make sure you're using the right driver.04:15
zoidberghey guys...i have a perl script that I have applied chmod to already....it works perfectly however i have to go to the directory where it is located to access it all the time....how can i add it universially so no matter which directory i am in i can run that script?04:15
r080cy90rheeeei are you died??04:15
tritium!enter > britt_04:15
dabaRcondorito: what is that from, and what happens to your computer?04:16
condoritofirst i tried to run live user04:16
[erisco] I am looking for some sort of screen capturing software. As in video... like how they do the on-screen tutorials for programs and such. Anyone have some names?04:16
condoritoand it was allright04:16
sethkzoidberg, either move it to a directory in your search path (such as /usr/bin), or add the directory where it lives to your search path04:16
britt_tritium: ??04:16
condoritoi tried to enter internet, but didnt know how to so i switched to windows to find more information04:16
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sethkzoidberg, run hash -r after moving it to update the search path caches on any already running shells04:16
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condoritoand i tried to run live cd again, and i couldnt04:16
[erisco] does anyone know what I mean? heh04:16
condoritothat's the error i get04:16
dabaRr080cy90r: we have to know what to put in there for the mount point and the drive node. /opt/? /dev/hd??.04:17
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tritiumbritt_: please use punctuation rather than hitting the enter key between sentences04:17
sethkcondorito, you can try disabling dma during the install04:17
ianmacgregor[erisco] : Tried istanbul ?04:17
condoritoi didnt install it yet04:17
SpudDoggsethk, would you happen to know how i can tell if this driver will work for what im trying to do?  http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/detail_desc.aspx?ProductID=2259&DwnldID=11200&agr=Y04:17
condoritohow do i do it04:17
sethkSpudDogg, let me look04:17
sethkcondorito, what were you doing when you get that error?04:17
[erisco] ianmacgregor, thanks! I'll give that a try!04:17
sethkcondorito, not installing?04:17
condoritonothing, really. i was running as live user04:18
condoritousing the cd04:18
condoritowithout installing04:18
condoritobut needed to find some information04:18
condoritoand i went back to windows04:18
sethkSpudDogg, looks good, yes.  I can't tell which kernel version it's tested against, though04:18
condoritoand tried to get back to ubuntu and i get that error04:18
condoritonothing changed in my hardware04:18
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xiaoyehello04:19
sethkcondorito, possibly you have an intermittent problem with your memory.  I've seen machines run for months between errors of that type.04:19
SpudDoggsethk, so if i install that one, my WORST CASE is i'll have to reinstall ubuntu?  likely just to reinstall original drivers?04:19
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dabaRcondorito: have you tried testing the cd for errors? it is an option in the menu.04:20
condoritoyes i did04:20
sethkSpudDogg, I can't imagine having to reinstall the entire o/s.04:20
condoritonot a problem04:20
moot_clear04:20
sethkSpudDogg, back up /boot and /lib/modules04:20
sethkSpudDogg, and also /etc04:20
moot_oops04:20
sethkSpudDogg, then try it.04:20
dabaRcondorito: what else have you tried?04:20
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sethkcondorito, that's not a media issue04:21
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SpudDoggsethk, i just read in the readme that this driver supports kernel 2.6.13 or later.  im runnning 2.6.15-2704:21
corevettehey i have a question04:21
sethkthat's an hardware error raised by the dma bridge04:21
r080cy90r i think is only /opt/ because opt stay in the "/" is the file system mount understand???04:21
sethkSpudDogg, sounds good.04:21
corevettewhat is the thing on webistes that enables people to make usernames/passwords and stuff04:21
condoritocookies04:21
dabaRr080cy90r: no, where are you from?04:21
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sethkSpudDogg, but, the "or later" isn't always true.  should be ok, though, for just a couple of minor version numbers, I'd go for it.04:22
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r080cy90ritaly04:22
condoritoi am wondering why i was able to run the live cd the first time04:22
r080cy90rwhy????04:22
dabaR!it04:22
sethkcondorito, intermittent problem04:22
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:22
TarantulafudgeHow do you sever ssh connections from the server?04:22
condoritocan you give me some advice on how to fix it?04:22
nvokeCan someone tell me how to enable my repositories ples?04:22
drminimeHey, i have an external hard drive that I just mounted and am using samba to share it.  I need to change the permissions, and chmod +w isn't doing it for me.  Any suggestions?  I am root while doing this.04:22
condoritoi am a newbie (n00b) at linux, but i really hate windows04:22
sethkcondorito, I'd run the memtest86 (assuming you are on x86 architecture)04:23
Flannel!repositories | nvoke04:23
ubotunvoke: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource04:23
r080cy90rok thank excuse me if i brake your balls friend bye04:23
sethkcondorito, memtest86 is a separate, stand alone memory tester that is independent of linux or windows.04:23
sethkcondorito, it is very good at finding intermittent memory problems.04:23
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condoritook i will run it04:23
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sethkcondorito, if you install ubuntu, memtest86 is also installed and added to your boot menu.  Is it on the live cd boot menu?  I'm not sure.04:24
yadamanhey, I'm getting a new comp soon and am thinking of installing linux on this one. is Ubuntu a good choice for beginners?04:24
tritiumabsolutely04:24
sethkyadaman, I think so, yes04:24
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condoritono it is not04:24
drminimeyou bet04:24
nvokeI mean like, what file do I edit so apt-get works?04:24
sethkyadaman, what types of things are you going to do with it?04:24
yadamanI heard that it was from a good computing magazine I read, and was just asking here to make sure.04:24
Phuzion!freeformats04:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:24
condoritoi meant04:24
condoritono the memtest is not in the menu04:24
zoidbergguys I have ubuntu running on an old PowerPC g3 powerbook....how do i configure video output...i want to connect it to another monitor...how can i display stuff on that monito or extend the desktop?04:25
condoritoi downloaded it already04:25
condoritowill try t04:25
sethkcondorito, ok.04:25
tritium!enter > condorito04:25
yadamanI just wanted to try out linux and heard that Ubuntu was a good choice for beginners04:25
blazemongeri think it's good04:25
sethkyadaman, that's a true statement04:25
SpudDoggsethk, in the install instructions "First, we build and install the ieee80211 subsystem.  You can obtain the latest ieee80211 subsystem from http://ieee80211.sf.net.  We recommend version 1.1.12 or newer:"  What is that and is it necessary?04:25
Kawaii-Pandayadaman: it's the worst OS you will ever meet in your life when you want to play games, especially commercial ones.04:25
drminimeagain, i've got an external hard drive that i mounted and need to change the permissions so all users can write, chmod +x won't do it, no error msg.  any suggestions?04:25
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LeoStewartyadaman: very true. :)04:25
sethkSpudDogg, let me look at that url04:25
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drminime*chmod +w04:26
blazemongerwell it's okay for emulator games, but it's not good for most commercial games imo04:26
yadamanKawaii-Panda: that's why I'm gonna install it on this box when I get my new comp.04:26
tritiumKawaii-Panda: that's an exaggeration, for sure04:26
blazemongerfor everything else ubuntu is good04:26
sethkSpudDogg, yes, you need it04:26
SpudDoggsethk, ok, cool04:26
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yadamanKawaii-Panda: since it's not really good for commercial stuff.04:26
SpudDoggsethk, you are the man.  thanks again04:26
compilerwriterCan someone help me sync my palm with ubuntu?  I am having no luck with what I am trying from what I can read in the forums.04:26
sethkSpudDogg, they've layered the wireless to separate out some common code.  similar concept to ndis04:26
yadamanI'm gonna put vista on my new box.04:26
PhuzionWhat is the version after dapper?04:26
PhuzionEdgy?04:27
condoritook i downloaded memtest and i have here some sort of iso, but i dont see an executable file there04:27
yadamanI'm getting a free copy of Home Premium from a relative that works for microsoft04:27
jribPhuzion: yes04:27
PhuzionThanks04:27
LeoStewartPhuzio: yes. 6.1004:27
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jribPhuzion: after dapper, they go in abc order04:27
sethkcompilerwriter, I've not had problems with my palm with ubuntu and the kde tools and pilot-link04:27
xiaoyewhen will the 6.10 release?04:27
sethkcompilerwriter, what are you seeing?04:27
jrib!ef04:27
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!04:27
compilerwriterThe connection could not be established.04:28
blazemongerthanks ubotu04:28
stupidone!ef04:28
compilerwritersethk I have been using jpilot.04:28
stupidoneyou just thanked the bot04:28
dabaRtritium: ya, I played lots of games lately, with xmame you can play any game that was ever on arcade, if you download roms, that is:)04:28
sethkcompilerwriter, is it a USB palm?  which one?04:28
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LeoStewartubotu does it again!04:28
LeoStewart;)04:28
ithielhello all04:28
dob1i am downloading dapper,  it will be substituted in few hours ?04:28
compilerwriterit is a zire2104:28
compilerwriterit is usb.04:28
yadamanI'm also thinking of making a website, anyone know what distro of linux is good for webservers so I can put it on a spare box I have?04:29
azurealis there a way to make my aptitude search results in color? (green if "i", for example?)04:29
LeoStewartdob1: yes.04:29
condoritodo i need to boot with memtest04:29
condorito?04:29
tritiumyadaman: ubuntu is fine for that too04:29
dob1LeoStewart: ok i stop the download04:29
Kawaii-Pandayadaman: ubuntu is also available as a server.04:29
blazemongeri use ubuntu for music production04:29
Flanneldob1: sort of.  There will be a new version, but dapper is just as good, and a LTS.  So, it depends on what you want in your system.04:29
dabaRdob1: dapper has 5 years support on the server for example...the new desktop is coming out in a few hours.04:29
sethkcompilerwriter, with the USB palms, there have been some issues with the device identifier.  There are two IDs, and the one you need to use to sync changes.04:29
yadamanheh, ubuntu is like the universal distro!04:29
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Kawaii-Pandayadaman: check out the ubuntu site's download section :)04:29
LeoStewartdob1: well, it's up to you.04:29
Phuzionyadaman:  any linux distro will work04:29
dob1i want a desktop system04:29
sethkcompilerwriter, as in ttyUSB0, ttyUSB104:29
yadamanI'll just have to ask dad for his old un-used box then.04:29
yadamanthen I can get my website on the net finally04:30
dob1is better that i download the new version then?04:30
sethkcompilerwriter, I have two, one works with ttyUSB0, the other works with ttyUSB1, same palm o/s rev, etc.04:30
blazemongeryadaman : Ubuntu users are a alien-race hellbent on conquering planet Earth04:30
teledynblazemonger: really?  what DAW do you use/recommend?04:30
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dennis__anyone know if there is away or if it's possbile to convert .pl scripts to .deb04:30
compilerwritersethk can we switch to private.  Much easier for me to follow.04:30
dabaRdob1: the iso can still come in handy04:30
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Phuzionyadaman:  I'd personally suggest any that comes with a package manager, because it is a lot easier to insall LAMP without needing to compile everything on your own04:30
ithielcan anyone help me with my bcm43xx internal wifi card on my Dell Inspiron 600m?04:30
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blazemongeri mostly use rosegarden and audacity04:30
ithiel!bcm43xx04:30
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:30
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dabaRdennis__: it would likely be called packaging04:30
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dennis__ah04:31
teledynblazemonger: what about VST plugins?04:31
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dennis__well ,I know there are tools like alien and checkinstall that do similar things.04:31
blazemongeri'e not figured that out yet but working on it04:31
yadamanheh... ubotu.04:31
yadamanthat's clever.04:31
dabaRdennis__: google might know about debian new maintainer04:31
MunchkinguyWith fedora core, one can install over both hard drives, so that the disk space of both of them can be used. Is there a way to do this with Ubuntu?04:31
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nekostardo te do te dummm04:32
FlannelMunchkinguy: you want a RAID? or just to have partitions on both drives?04:32
nekostaranyone know how to export env variables04:32
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yadamanubotu... that's a great name. u-bot-u. ubuntu-bot.04:32
yadamanclever.04:32
jribnekostar: with the 'export' command?04:32
teledynMunchkinguy: that's not a raid, its using LVM04:32
dabaRnekostar: you answered your own question...04:32
LeoStewartyadaman: you don't miss a thing. ;)04:32
nekostarhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28456204:32
Flannelyadaman: take general chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks04:32
nekostardabaR, jrib yeah...... thought i knew how but it hates me....04:32
dabaRnekostar: and you read the manual?04:32
PhuzionHaha, I just realized I was trying to use an Edgy repository on a Dapper machine04:33
Phuzionoops04:33
nekostaryup04:33
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nekostarif you browse page four i think it was i showed the outputs04:33
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Rav|stranglerThanks everyone04:33
Phuzionapt-get dist-upgrade after changing sources.list, right?04:33
nekostarlol Phuzion04:33
Rav|stranglerI got connected to my wireless network04:33
Phuzionnekostar:  I changed my sources file, then forgot to actually run the update, lol04:33
Munchkinguyteledyn: See, there isn't enough room on my first hard drive to install Ubuntu and keep room for swap space.04:33
Rav|stranglertoo easy04:34
Rav|strangler:-D04:34
teledynMunchkinguy: i'm not sure but i think ubuntu installer has lvm support.  i'd be surprised if it didn't04:34
tritiumteledyn, Munchkinguy: it does04:34
nekostarPhuzion, is there an upgrade package to edgy yet?04:34
FlannelMunchkinguy, teledyn, the alternate CD has LVM support, however, you just sound like you want to spread the install over a few drives, which is perfectly doable04:34
PhuzionNot sure, I think so04:34
PhuzionI04:34
MunchkinguyDo I need the "alternative" CD for that?04:34
teledynyeah pretty much all distros nowadays offer LVM options when setting up disks during install04:34
PhuzionI just ran apt-get dist-upgrade and it said all is well so far04:34
nekostarmmm04:34
PhuzionI thought Edgy was out for a while04:35
teledynMunchkinguy: probably not04:35
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nekostari have ubuntu in here b/c im gonna try making this triple boot with xp / ubuntu / mac04:35
nekostar:P04:35
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nekostarprobably wont work ~_~04:35
Phuzionwhat type of computer?04:35
Phuzionmac pro or something?04:35
teledynPhuzion: apt-get update first, then dist-upgrade04:35
Phuzionyeah, did that04:35
Rav|stranglerwow neko04:35
Phuzionand it's just sitting there waiting for headers04:35
PhuzionSo, I have no idea what to do04:35
teledynPhuzion: and it didn't fetch anything?04:36
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PhuzionI think the packages aren;'r released04:36
Rav|strangleryour going to be ethuggin like me04:36
PhuzionIt's just saying 0% waiting for headers04:36
MunchkinguyDoes the alternate cd have a gui?04:36
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jbroomeno04:36
tritiumMunchkinguy: text-mode04:36
PhuzionOh, sweet04:36
nekostaros[Linux 2.6.15-23-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ @ 2.16GHz]  mem[Physical : 1011MB, 78.8% free]  disk[Total : 342.07GB, 7.80% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] ]  sound[Audigy2 - Audigy 2 [SB0240] ] 04:36
teledynPhuzion: well its - a - waiting...04:36
PhuzionPackages are downloading04:36
PhuzionAwesome04:36
nekostarthats my current info Phuzion04:36
nekostarsorry had to install xchat-xsys04:36
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nekostarinstalled ubuntu like 4 am last night04:36
nekostarXD04:36
Munchkinguytritium: like the breezy install cd?04:36
Phuzionnekostar:  Repping the 5200, nice04:37
FlannelMunchkinguy: exactly04:37
teledynPhuzion: its slow for me right now too for some reason04:37
tritiumMunchkinguy: yeah, based on debian-installer04:37
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PhuzionIt's a rather impressive card for its age04:37
Rav|strangleri thought linux didnt have to restart04:37
nekostardude ive had that since it was bleeding edge and its served me well ^^;;04:37
PhuzionHahaha04:37
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PhuzionSame here04:37
dabaRtritium: there is a lot of people being totally offtopic...04:37
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PhuzionThat's on my computer upstairs though04:37
Flannel!offtopic04:37
nekostarRav|strangler, well mostly when you do major upgrades like kernel stuff04:37
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!04:37
FlannelGuys, take the general chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please04:38
nekostarFlannel, having a bad day?04:38
tritiumdabaR: you're right.04:38
Rav|strangleroh ok04:38
nekostartry #gentoo they like being rude to the users ^^;;04:38
teledynPhuzion: you can always ctrl-c it and restart it to see if it connects faster04:38
Rav|stranglerwell brb gotta restart04:38
nekostarbbiab04:38
Rav|stranglerlol04:38
Phuzionteledyn:  I said it;s getting packages04:38
tritiumPlease stay on topic, folks.  Thanks!04:38
Flannelnekostar: there's 900 people here, If everyone was chatting, it'd be really impossible for anyone to get any support04:38
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nekostarFlannel, but they are not.04:38
Phuzion916, get ya numberz straight, son04:38
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Phuzion91704:39
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dabaRtritium: and there was this guy that was soo annoying:) I told him kthxbye, kinda...sent him to his language channel cause he asked understand??? and I did not at all, and he swore at me...:)04:39
Phuzion91804:39
Phuzion917, lol04:39
teledynmost of those people are just idling04:39
Phuzionalright, enough04:39
teledynthank god04:39
helloyocould somebody please help me enable direct rendering with my radeon 9550?04:39
nekostar~850 idleing lol04:39
Phuzionnekostar, wanna take it to offtopic04:39
tritiumdabaR: sorry, can't catch them all04:39
dabaRtritium: ya, off course:)04:39
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nekostarPhuzion, gotta try something for the reason i originally came in here... the thread in the forums i mentioned above04:39
nekostarbbaib'04:39
Phuzionis 100Kb/s slow for packages downloading?04:40
LeoStewartAre there admins in this room ever?04:40
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PhuzionRarely04:40
dabaRtritium: they are not so much kickable as just incoherent. if you read what nekostar said alltogether...and his forum page...04:40
teledynPhuzion: not really04:40
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PhuzionThe people that have ops in here generally don't op themselves unless they need to use them04:40
PhuzionThat way they don't get bothered with OMG SOMEONE IS LYING TO ME or something stupid like that04:40
LeoStewartPhuzion: ahh.04:40
Kawaii-Pandai wont really call it idling, i for one just wants to learn some stuff new, and help when im needed.04:40
teledynthat's 800Mbps or little more than half T1 which isn't bad04:41
tritiumLeoStewart: we try to watch as best we can04:41
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LeoStewarttritium: I take it you're an admin?04:41
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dabaRteledyn: there are lots, /msg ubotu ops04:41
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tritiumLeoStewart: yes04:41
teledyndabaR: ?04:41
perkinhello everybody04:41
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dabaRteledyn: pah, sorry.04:42
LeoStewarttritium: cheers. ;)04:42
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helloyoenable direct rendering help anyone?04:42
PhuzionSo, I just got a free set of Bose speakers04:42
Phuzionoops, wrong channel, lol04:42
perkinexcuse me people, i have a doubt about shipit and Edgy eft: will Canonical ship Cds of Edgy Eft?04:42
tritiumLeoStewart: hi :)  Welcome to #ubuntu.  It's not the ops that make the channel great.  It's the users here in the channel.  They rock!04:42
PhuzionYes04:42
Munchkinguyperkin: no04:42
Flannelperkin: of couse they will04:42
Munchkinguywhat?04:43
MunchkinguyI was told not04:43
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perkinMunchkinguy: i don't know, because i've heard that they won't ship cds anymore04:43
PhuzionI was not told not, so I'm going to assume the answer is yes04:43
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thcrw8383What is it like updating Ubuntu to Edgy ?04:43
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dabaRthcrw8383: /msg ubotu upgrade04:43
perkinwow, so our plans are going to fall down very quicky04:43
MunchkinguyPerkin: http://everythingelse.wordpress.com/2006/09/20/shipit-will-not-take-orders-for-edgy-eft/04:43
teledynthcrw8383: pretty non-eventful04:44
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wastrelShipit will continue sending out dapper LTS04:44
perkinok, thanks..04:44
thcrw8383Is it hard to do,I hear it a good 700 MB04:44
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tritiumthcrw8383: about, yes04:44
perkinso we'll have to burn thousands of Cds in Mendoza, Argentina04:44
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zoidbergdoes anyone know how to work an external monitor with a laptop04:45
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zoidberg?04:45
Munchkinguyperkin: They will ship cds, but not Edgy Eft.04:45
tritiumzoidberg: just like any other04:45
dabaRMunchkinguy: man, after reading what shuttleworth says about what an eft is, I don't feel like upgrading to edgy:)04:45
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Phuzionperkin: set up an Ubuntu reposiitory on a gigabit network04:45
Artemis3what is an eft?04:45
zoidbergtritium: how?04:45
thcrw8383If I stay with dapper,will I continue to recieve updates,like major ones,like a new release of the Gnome desktop?04:45
tritiumzoidberg: are you trying to do dual-head setup, or what?04:45
teledynArtemis3: what the hell are any of these bizarre names they use?  i never heard of any of them?04:45
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Flannelthcrw8383: no.  the gnome version is fixed per release04:46
Phuzionthcrw8383:  What reasons are you considering not upgrading?04:46
Munchkinguythcrw8383: The desktop will not be updates, but you will recieve security releases04:46
Sebastian_what is new in the new gnome ?04:46
[erisco] instanbul crashed on me, and if I open a new one, it closes... leaving the crashed one... "running"04:46
baboGuys, does anyone know how to convert a string like this ... into UTF-8 ?04:46
Artemis3hmm i think they appear in books of animals ^^;04:46
babo=?euc-kr?B?RW1wbG95bWVudCBPcHB04:46
[erisco] how do I kill the process?04:46
thcrw8383Im on dial-up,upgrading will be hell04:46
Flannel!eft04:46
ubotueft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development - the release after Dapper will be called Edgy Eft.  For information and pictures of efts/newts, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt or try !edgy04:46
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MunchkinguydabaR: This is Canonical thinking about business: 6.06 was long term support for a reason04:46
LeoStewart!edgy04:47
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule04:47
Phuzion[ericso] :  ps aux | grep istanbul then kill the pid number04:47
Artemis3see?04:47
teledynwhat is a drake then?04:47
zoidbergtritium: well that would be nice...like an extended desktop but if i could get it to work with just one external montior without the laptop monitor that would be fine too04:47
LeoStewartlet me try!04:47
Artemis3a duck?04:47
LeoStewart!drake04:47
tritium!xinerama > zoidberg04:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about drake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:47
LeoStewartshoot...04:47
teledynhaha04:47
Phuzion!dapper04:47
Artemis3hahaha04:47
ubotudapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"04:47
teledynsucker04:47
tritiumzoidberg: what video chip does yoru laptop have?04:47
Munchkinguythcrw8383: you can always buy a cd04:47
SpudDoggsethk, i think this driver and the IEEE80211 stuff if too much for me04:47
LeoStewartArtemis3: yes, a drake is a male duck.04:47
zoidbergi think its ati3dragepro or something04:48
Artemis3tehehe04:48
[erisco] Phuzion, which one is the "pid"?04:48
thcrw8383so,if I have dapper,and I recieve a eft CD,i can get my updates through that?04:48
sethkSpudDogg, why?  having problems building?04:48
Phuzionprocess id number04:48
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SpudDoggsethk, to say the least04:48
zoidbergtritium: btw its a powerpc g3 powerbook...old...and i'm running badger on it...works better04:48
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tritiumzoidberg: oh, okay.  ati?04:48
Phuzion[ericso[:  second column04:48
Phuzion[ericso] :  second column04:48
sethkSpudDogg, well, you know, I write drivers, so it's second nature to me, but it can be trying.04:48
sethkSpudDogg, you might want to try with the exact kernel version they mentioned on the intel driver web page04:49
zoidbergtritium: yes04:49
MunchkinguySebastian_: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16/notes/C/rnfrontpage.html04:49
LeoStewartArtemis3: In case you were wondering, a fawn, as in Feisty Fawn, is a young deer. ;)04:49
[erisco] Phuzion, I am seeing this: 7830  0.0  0.0   2880   804 pts/0    S+   22:47   0:00 grep instanbul04:49
sethkSpudDogg, but we often have to fix thing up in code we get from intel04:49
dabaRthcrw8383: you could upgrade, reinstall...04:49
Phuziondon't bother04:49
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Phuzionit's not there04:49
Artemis3^^!04:49
Sebastian_Munchkinguy: thanks man04:49
Munchkinguyteledyn: or a dragon04:49
tritiumzoidberg: you can setup dual-head without xinerama too.  "man radeon" for details on what options you need04:49
Artemis3so thats what it was ^^;04:49
[erisco] so, now what? heh04:49
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Phuzionno idea,04:49
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PhuzionI'm kinda like the first aid here, now you have to go a little deeper04:50
[erisco] no other way to kill a dead process?04:50
MunchkinguySebastian_: you're welcome04:50
PhuzionIf it doesn't exist, then you can't rea;lly kill it04:50
PhuzionBut we might have been searching for the wrong thing, I have no clue04:50
sasuk3haha tru04:50
perkinyes, they have very good reasons for not to ship Edgy Eft, the work they made with Dapper is great04:50
PhuzionI don't know what istanbul shows up as in the ps aux menu04:50
thcrw8383I cant re-install,Dial-up is a pain in the a**,Re-installing means a re-format,which means losing everything,and I do NOT want to take the risk04:50
MadCowBoyWhats the definition of a 'troll04:50
[erisco] lol, I just did it through the GUI system manager ;)04:50
MadCowBoywith regards to forums or IRC04:50
[erisco] way for GUI04:51
sasuk3GUI system manager04:51
sasuk3wow xD04:51
PhuzionMadCowBoy:  Someone who just goes in and flames04:51
PhuzionNo actual contribution04:51
n8k99!troll04:51
MadCowBoythx04:51
dabaRthcrw8383: I said that as an option in addition to upgrading04:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:51
sasuk3troll = linus torvalds04:51
MadCowBoylol04:51
Kawaii-Pandablasphemy04:51
Kawaii-Pandatroll = linus torvalds?04:51
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sasuk3ea04:52
dabaRtritium: ...04:52
Kawaii-Pandahow?04:52
dabaRtritium: sorry04:52
[erisco] !instanbul04:52
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Kawaii-Panda...04:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about instanbul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:52
[erisco] thanks anyways ubotu04:52
zoidbergtritium: the video card i have is not radeon...its ATI 3drage pro04:52
thcrw8383Last question,If I decide to upgrade,can I download the upgrade as I go? (pausing it regularly)04:53
PhuzionI'd suggest just doing an overnight kind of thing04:53
n8k99trolls generally are disagreable and argumentative for reasons that are highly irrelevant to the conversation or discussion at hand04:53
[erisco] !pid04:53
tritiumzoidberg: yes, but if you use the "ati" driver for X.org, you can use radeon options04:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:53
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dabaRn8k99: or the just send messages irrelevant to ubotu tech support like you.04:53
K-enHello.04:53
sasuk3PID PROCESS ID04:53
dabaRn8k99: the unintentional troll:)04:53
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n8k99dabaR: answering MadCowBoy's question, thank you04:54
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sasuk3btw [erisco]  dont get inlove with ubotu is just a bot :)04:54
n8k99:)04:54
Rav|stranglercan anyone tell me how to make the terminal transperent04:54
MadCowBoyI work mostly with php, but also sometimes with asp, can anyone suggest a way I could host asp pages accessing mdb's without relying on a windows box please?04:54
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teledynapt-get install dict dict-gcide dict-jargon dict-foldoc; dict troll04:55
dabaRn8k99: answer that one04:55
K-enMadCowBoy: I use Beryl + glx and I have the ability to make certain windows semi-transparent: enough to see the window content behind them.04:55
yadamanquestion. all the times I've tried Linux before, it was supposed to automatically install a dual-boot program, which it didn't, and I'm wondering... Is Ubuntu gonna pull some crap loke that?04:55
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K-enIt's a nice piece of eye-candy but i've found it has a lot of practical application for me, too, as a newbie windows user.04:55
sasuk3Rav|strangler on terminal preferences :D04:56
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n8k99is not asp a M$ proprietary solution that can only be reverse engineered to work under Linux servers04:56
MadCowBoyK-en, wasn;t my question but thanks I like beryl :)04:56
Rav|stranglerye ai just saw it :-] 04:56
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jano_l77hi i'm new04:56
khaije1edgy is scheduled for release in about an hour isn't it?04:56
tritiumyadaman: it will install grub, which will allow you to dual-boot04:56
K-enYadaman: Ubuntu is my first Linux distro and i've had no problems with dual-booting. I had Windows XP installed first and GRUB automatically configured for me.04:56
MadCowBoyhi jano_l7704:56
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MunchkinguyWelcome, jano_l77.04:57
MadCowBoyasp anyone?04:57
jano_l77ubuntu is the best04:57
sasuk3i made a shell on asp is COoL04:57
K-enRav|strangler: (second time lucky) I use Beryl + glx and I have the ability to make certain windows semi-transparent: enough to see the window content behind them.04:57
dabaRMadCowBoy: what have you tried so far?04:57
MadCowBoyconfiguring apache::asp, but haven;t looked into how I'll access the .mdb04:58
sasuk3MadCowBoy u are on ubuntu channel.. :D04:58
mpee!schedule04:58
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule04:58
jano_l77my ubuntu can read text for me04:58
jano_l77easy04:58
MadCowBoychillisoft sounds like it would do everything but I don;t want to pay of course,04:58
dabaRMadCowBoy: libapache2-mod-mono mono-xsp2 are some packages to look into. look for tutorials on google04:59
MadCowBoysasuk3, thanks for that I am an Ubuntu user :p :)04:59
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jano_l77file:///home/jano/Desktop/gnu.jpg04:59
godtviskenIs there a Firefox 2 ubuntu package yet?04:59
khaije1thx mpee04:59
jano_l77fuck04:59
jano_l77jajaja04:59
dabaRtritium:04:59
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MadCowBoythanks dabaR Will do,04:59
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dabaRthanks05:00
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zoidbergtritium: I dont want to fuck with my xorg.conf file really....is there any other option?05:00
mpeekhaije1: no worries, I haven't heard much, I was wondering if it was going to slip05:00
tritiumzoidberg: dude, watch your language please!05:00
Kawaii-Pandagodtvisken: yes.05:00
Kawaii-Pandabeen using it in edgy for days.05:01
tritiumzoidberg: you can simply plug in an external monitor and try hot-switching.  You can also "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" once you've done so.05:01
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zoidbergtritium: sorry....what do u mean by hotswitching...would i have to reboot?05:01
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Sebastian_what is bitchX?05:01
sasuk3MadCowBoy u ask about asp working with mdb on ubuntu channel.. :P05:01
phire_mIRCirc clinet05:01
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sasuk3thats what i mean :p05:01
khaije1mpee: me too, isn't this the place to ask? i would expect more anticipation, but it seems like business as usual05:01
godtviskenKawaii-Panda: but i mean for dapper05:01
tj__zoidberg: messing w/ xorg.conf isn't that bad, just be sure to back up often, and then just edit ti all you like05:02
tritiumzoidberg: I don't have an iBook, but it should have a hotkey combination for switching between LCD and external display05:02
khaije1maybe everyone is already on an RC05:02
deshantm!edgy05:02
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khaije1:-)05:02
teledynSebastian_: highly modified version of ircii05:02
deshantm!schedule05:02
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule05:02
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K-enHm, I do have a question. My console (ctrl+alt+F#) doesn't display. It simply goes to a blank screen.05:03
[erisco] does anyone have any other solutions to this instanbul?05:04
mpeekhaije1: exactly, although I guess all the devs are busy doing real work rather than sitting on irc :)05:04
[erisco] it has crashed every time I have used it :(05:04
AfterDeathK-en: does ctrl+alt+f1 work?05:04
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mpee[erisco] : what's this instanbul thing?05:04
AfterDeathK-en: if not, make sure that the entries are in inittab05:04
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[erisco] hold on05:04
tritiummpee: apt-cache show istanbul, and you'll see :)05:04
sasuk3K-en BLANK screen?? or white screen LoL05:04
K-enAfterDeath: Well, it switches to a blank screen but the console doesn't actually appear. It just remains blank.05:04
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K-enSasuk3: Blank, black screen,.05:05
AfterDeathK-en: check inittab05:05
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sasuk3ah..05:05
sasuk3dont get the prompt05:05
mpeeah that thing05:05
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K-enSasuk3: That would probably be a more coherent expression. I don't get the prompt.05:06
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tj__what is the edgy release date?05:06
LeoStewart!ef05:06
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!05:06
RancidLMhey all i just got a new monitor, and my xorg is all messed up.. what is the command for ubuntu to re-detect the best settings for the monitor?05:06
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aj-reyesdebconf?05:07
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[erisco] instanbul records your desktop. it is really "buggy" though, it sometimes works, and most times crashes05:07
[erisco] does a really junky job with the mouse too05:07
Sebastian_Will kubuntu edgy be available today too?05:07
mpeecoolblade, I might not install it then05:07
teledynRancidLM: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:08
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CppIsWeirdhow do i ls and have it pause on the list when it fills the winodw and wait for me to press continue05:08
RancidLMteledyn: thanks!05:08
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billsfamtorque33CppIsWeird: ls | more05:08
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globeCppIsWeird: man ls05:08
deshantmOR: CppIsWeird ls | less05:08
[erisco] oh, and firefox has been crashing a lot with flash =(05:08
mpeeok, work to do, see you ubuntitos05:08
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DigitalNinjais anyone out there using either an epox motherboard or a msi nx7600 video card05:09
grndslmdo any of the ubuntu cds (desktop or alternate) respond to usb keyboards on bootup??05:09
Sebastian_I'm having some problems with youtube videos out of sync in firefox and flock. Any solution?05:09
CppIsWeirdany way to get it to continue in list for and not be item for item enter05:10
TateySebastian_: using flash9?05:10
LeoStewartFirefox crashes with some Java applications, like Java-IRC chat clients.  It also loads quite slowly while browsing.  Is this normal?05:10
aj-reyesno usb for me05:10
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Sebastian_tatey: is it available for download already?05:10
aj-reyesIm pretty usb keyboard is a grub thing, cause it dont work therye either05:10
globeCppIsWeird: ? say that again...05:10
K-enLeoStewart: My experience with Java is that it slows everything down. This may just be my bad luck, though.05:10
DigitalNinjaMaybe I should start simple05:10
CppIsWeirdglobe: like dir -o-p-a-w05:11
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DigitalNinjaDoes Linux work with pci express video cards05:11
tritiumsure does05:11
grndslmaj-reyes, the cd boots with grub?  interesting05:11
globeCppIsWeird: ? sorry...its been too long, whats o, a do?05:11
TateySebastian_: no, but you can manually install it. There is a bug with the Flash 7 plugin and audio syncing05:11
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LeoStewartK-en: yeah, same here.05:11
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teledynDigitalNinja: go to xorg's website and see if the card is supported05:11
Sebastian_tatey: thank you. is it available in the adobe page?05:11
deshantm!flash05:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:12
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Tateyhttp://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html05:12
CppIsWeirdlike i want it to do what it does accept every time the list takes more then a page of terminal, to pause for enter, without having to hit enter for every item listed passed the view point] 05:12
DigitalNinjateledyn: Thanks! That's the one plcae I havn't been yet05:12
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K-enAfterDeath: I'm looking at the inittab, and things look alright, although i'll be honest and admit I'm not sure what they'd look like if they weren't.05:12
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Tateyclose firefox, go into ~/.mozilla/plugins and remove the flash.so and .xpt file and then copy over the new one. Done05:13
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Sebastian_tatey: thank you very much05:13
globeCppIsWeird: how do you want it to resume after its pauses?05:13
grndslmanybody know why after both dapper and edgy desktop cds are almost about to display x & gnome, that the monitor would just say: "D-SUB:  Can not display this mode"05:13
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globeCppIsWeird: I see the problem.  hit space05:13
Tateygrndslm: it may not be detecing your frequencies properly, try booting with "Safe Graphics Mode"05:13
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grndslmTatey, kk...brb05:14
fluvvellgrndslm, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:14
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grndslmfluvvell, it's the installation cd05:14
noexAnyone have a minute to help me figure out a sound problem I am experiancing with Enemy Territory. I have wiki'd, faq'd, google'd and tested.... without any luck...  Does "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" mean anything to anyone? My desktop sound is working, as well as a game like Frozen Bubbles.05:14
fluvvellgrndslm, yup, do it in tty1.  ctrl-alt-f105:14
Tateynoex: make sure you close any application that is using the sound device05:14
grndslmTatey, oh yea...my usb keyboards don't work!!05:14
aztektumbah. whats the command line way to find where a program is installed05:15
globegrndslm: invest in a $3 usb->ps/2 converter ;-)05:15
Tateygrndslm: they should, got a PS/2 keyboard you can plugin?05:15
aztektumstarts with w05:15
noexTatey: I have attempted that. Although, I can run Amarok and Frozen Bubbles at the same time without any sound issues.05:15
aztektumi think05:15
noexTatey: Any other ideas?05:15
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Tateyaztektum: $ whereis programname05:15
aztektumyeh yeh05:15
aztektumthx05:15
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grndslminvest in a usb->ps/2 converter??  seriously??05:15
CppIsWeirdhow do i use find to find an executeable with "vnc" in the name?05:15
globeCppIsWeird: did that make it do what you want?05:15
Tateynoex: Enemy Terroritory might use OSS, and not ALSA. OSS doesn't like sharing the device05:16
grndslmwhat's up with linux not being able to detect usb keyboards???05:16
CppIsWeirdglobe, i have no idea, im getting exceedingly pissed at googles inability to find shit on what i search for05:16
globeCppIsWeird: just like dos.  ls *vnc* | more05:16
tritiumCppIsWeird: you can also use "dpkg -L <packagename>" to list the files in a package05:16
brian98CppIsWeird, locate *vnc*05:16
TateyCppIsWeird: your best bet would be to $ find /usr/bin/ | grep vpn05:16
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brian98CppIsWeird, find / -name *vnc*05:16
DigitalNinjax.org doesn't have any information on cards that are supported05:16
noexTatey: I picked up the OSS-ALAS wrapper and that didn't do the trick sadly. Any suggestions of things to try?05:16
fluvvellaztektum05:16
DigitalNinjais there another site I can go to that has information on video cards that are supported.05:17
Tateynoex: I use to get a similar issue when I had my music player open, when I closed my music player then reopened the game, it worked perfectly05:17
tritiumWhat card do you have, DigitalNinja?05:17
fluvvellgrndslm, im using a usb keyboard now...05:17
DigitalNinjamsi nx760005:17
globeCppIsWeird: what are you googling?05:17
tritiumDigitalNinja: is that based on an nvidia 7600?05:17
TateyDigitalNinja: is that an nvidia chipset? If so, it's fully supported.05:17
JNeverMindive been having a prob with 6.06 do you know what time 6.10 iso will be available for dl from ubuntu.com ?05:17
grndslmfluvvell, try using an installation cd already!05:17
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DigitalNinjaNVIDIA05:17
noexTatey: Mmm, doesn't seem to be that easy for me. I have dropped my music player and ran ET.. I still receive the same "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy."05:17
tritiumDigitalNinja: okay, fully supported :)05:17
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smoked1I installed paintshop pro 7 using wine but for some reason when I try to launch the app all I get is the splash screen. Can someone help me?05:18
Tatey!finaledgy05:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about finaledgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:18
Tatey!edgyfinal05:18
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!05:18
DigitalNinjatritium: It doens't work well on my epox motherboard. It lockes up05:18
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tritiumDigitalNinja: with which driver?05:18
fluvvellgndslm, it shouldn't make any diff but if you're desperate, ...05:18
Munchkinguyteledyn, tritium, Flannel: thank you for the LVM help05:18
JNeverMindthanks guys05:18
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ZeNHi, I'm trying to get Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory to work, but I get no video.05:18
globedoes gnome keep a log of what modules it loads/fails to load somewhere?05:18
Tateynoex: beyond that, I'm not entirely sure. Try the Ubuntuforums.org05:18
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tritiumMunchkinguy: :)05:19
DigitalNinjatritium: the nvidia driver05:19
Tateyglobe: no, but you can check dmesg05:19
noexTatey: Been there, done that.. Thanks though!05:19
ZeNWhen the game starts, I see the cursor for a little, but then the screen goes black05:19
globeTatey: sounds good.  how might I do that ?05:19
tritiumDigitalNinja: "nv" or "nvidia"?05:19
ZeNI know its still running though05:19
ZeNbecause I hear the music.05:19
DigitalNinjatritium: nvidia05:19
vertananvidia05:19
Tateyglobe: $ dmesg05:19
fluvvellgrndslm, is it just that the detection process means its loading things off the cd and takes a lot longer than you expect?05:19
globeTatey: :-)05:19
DigitalNinjatritium: I ran glxinfo and it says I have direct rendering05:19
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tritiumDigitalNinja: did you look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?05:20
DigitalNinjatritium: However, the system locks up any way05:20
Rav|stranglerhow would I scheldule a shutdown?05:20
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Tatey$ sudo shutdown -h X05:20
Tateywhere X = minutes05:20
DigitalNinjatritium: Yup! not sure what I'm looking for but I didn't see any big error messages.05:20
Tateyfor an immediate shutdown, you can use "now"05:20
Rav|stranglerthanks you05:21
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globeTatey: okay.  so thats about 1000 lines.  cant I use grep to search it or something?05:21
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smoked1could someone at least tell me where wine stores its log files?05:21
FlannelRav|strangler: time can either be an offset (like, 1 hour from now) or an actual time05:21
grndslmfluvvell, i've tried using 6.06.1 & 6.10... desktop & alternate....all 4 DO NOT respond to usb keyboards...the only way i can get them to work is let the desktop cds automatically boot, but then i get that graphics error05:21
smoked1Are they in /var/messages?05:21
vertanaTatey: Could you enter a time such as "shutdown -h 16:00"?05:21
Tateyglobe: sure can, though the logfile is in chronological order so anything recent will appear last. Otherwise, grep is great. $ dmesg | grep <the module you're looking for>05:21
globeTatey: bah! I forgot the |05:22
ZeNcould someone help me with a video? problem. not quite sure the problem.05:22
Flannelvertana: yes05:22
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[erisco] lol, how do I stop instanbul from speeding all my movies up to no end?05:22
nailbagsi want to use firefox to open html/jpeg/etc attachments in mutt. it works, but only if firefox isn't already running. if firefox is already running, the 'firefox-bin %s' command in my mailcap file returns instantly and mutt deletes the attachment out of /tmp before firefox has a chance to load it. any ideas?05:22
Tateyvertana: yes, you can do $ sudo shutdown -h time hh:mm05:22
fluvvellgrndslm, I'm using 6.06, and yes its an installed copy.  A long shot, but do you need to enable legacy usb in the bios if you are expecting a usb keyboard to work before the os is fully booted?05:22
globeTatey: you are a rockstar helper my friend....10 people at once05:23
vertanaand the minutes would be in the 24 hours clock I assume?05:23
globevertana: ... hours?05:23
[erisco] if I type normally it looks like I can type 500 words a minute here lol05:23
vertanaclock* hours*.... whichever ^^05:23
grndslmok...i found a ps/2 keyboard in my roommate's room, but i'm still getting the "D-SUB:  Can not display this mode" error after using the "safe graphics mode"05:23
[erisco] gotta be a way to slow 'er down!05:24
nailbagsno mutt users in the house?05:24
grndslmfluvvell, i can access the bios with the usb keyboards...so, no i don't need to enable legacy usb....it's just the ubuntu installers05:24
fluvvellgrndslm, and once the cd is fully booted, you can reconfigure the graphics with  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but you'll need to do it on a console05:24
compilerwriterAnyone else have any ideas on a zire 21 and synching?05:24
Tateyvertana: no, in minutes. For example, $ sudo shutdown -h 30 would halt my system in 30 minutes. If you want to use seconds you can specify with t. $ sudo shutdown -h -t 60 would halt my system in 60 seconds05:24
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Tateyglobe: heh, thanks. Doing what I can :)05:24
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Tateygrndslm: what's the model of the display? Is it fairly new?05:25
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CppIsWeirdwhat is the vnc server called? i need to restart the server05:25
RhiNoHello05:25
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grndslmTatey, yes a dell 2405fpw05:25
RhiNocan someone help me get my wireless conenction to work?05:25
Tateyif all else fails, you could grab the alternate CD, which performs a text-based install.05:25
RhiNoi talked to someone they told me to come here cause he was going to bed now05:25
globeAre thery any openGL programmers in here?  I cannot get my programs to display ... "Unable to create direct context rendering ..."05:25
Tateygrndslm: it's possible that X is unable to correctly detect your frequencies, I'd suggest the text-based install. It's just as easy (and faster) than the GUI live CD05:25
phire_mIRCRhiNo: what kind of wireless card do you have?05:26
grndslmTatey...oh yea, i forgot i had a ps/2 keyboard to work with the alternate install now...GRACIAS!!05:26
RhiNolinksys05:26
TateyCppIsWeird: look in /etc/init.d for something that matches vnc05:26
phire_mIRCdoes ubuntu reconise it?05:26
music_man_nzis edgy out yet?05:26
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RhiNowpc54g v 1.205:26
[erisco] the more FPS the faster is plays it? lol05:26
Tateymusic_man_nz: not quite05:26
music_man_nzack05:26
music_man_nzwhen?05:26
RhiNoi installed ndiswrapper05:27
grndslmmusic_man_nz...how'd you hear about edgy?05:27
TateyCppIsWeird: when you find it, simply run $ sudo /etc/init.d/nameofscript restart05:27
music_man_nzaround the place...05:27
RhiNothen the wireless card as far as i know05:27
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Tatey!edgyfinal05:27
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!05:27
RhiNothen i did sudo modprobe ndiswrapper05:27
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RhiNobut it still wont connect05:27
music_man_nzwell the thing is05:27
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BoelckeGreetings, all.  If I'm making an rsync backup of my /home, why do I want to include the hidden directories?05:27
fluvvellmusic_man_nz, as in   en zed, country?05:28
globeBoelcke: because they usually contain settings for programs and such05:28
TateyBoelcke: why, or how?05:28
music_man_nzI can't remove an item from the menu. The program has been deleted, but still comes up under "Other"05:28
[erisco] any other screen recorders OTHER than instanbul?05:28
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music_man_nzNZ - New Zealand05:28
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Boelckeglobe, yeah, but if I'm just interested in backing up my stuff, I wouldn't want that, right?05:28
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phire_mIRCmusic man nz: me too05:28
koko775i'm running firefox 2, but upon loading a new page, in most cases (for some reason except for google) FF's screen doesn't refresh and I have to resize the text to get it to refresh05:28
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RhiNopm me if ur tryin to help me there is a crap load of talking in here lol05:28
[erisco] istanbul*05:28
godtviskenIs Ubuntu 6.10 already out?05:28
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Tateygrndslm: no05:28
jbroomeno05:28
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Tateysorry, godtvisken05:28
fluvvellmusic_man_nz, ah a fellow kiwi.05:28
jbroomeit'll be in the topic when it's out, trust me05:28
globeBoelcke: I would take them, but that might just be a personal thing05:28
BoelckeI'm thinking of, if my system blows up, I'll probably re-install ubuntu anyway -- I just want my data, files, pictures, etc.05:28
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music_man_nzYay go kiwis!05:29
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music_man_nzI'm in Wellington05:29
Boelckeglobe, ok, but when restoring a system, would you copy them into your new home?05:29
koko775i tried it both with edgy's firefox package and a nightly i downloaded -- same problem05:29
TateyAussies > Kiwi's ;)05:29
jbroomei'm in #ubuntu-offtopic05:29
leonelany ETA for tomorrow's release ?05:29
globeBoelcke: sure, but any customized settings would be gone.05:29
koko775can anyone help me?05:29
music_man_nzlol05:29
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jbroomego there05:29
music_man_nzKiwis >>>>>>>>>>> Aussies05:29
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koko775i installed Beryl, perhaps that's messing firefox up?05:29
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phire_mIRCRhiNo, I don't know anything about Ndiswrapper, sorry. You could try loiking here http://antonym.org/node/8905:29
godtviskenIs Ubuntu 6.10 already out?05:29
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tritiummusic_man_nz:, Tatey: stay on topic, please05:30
jbroomeNO05:30
tritiumno, godtvisken05:30
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godtviskentritium: when comes it out?05:30
Flannel!ef05:30
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!05:30
Tateytritium: I apologise05:30
Boelckeglobe, I guess I'm really asking whether I'm backing up some files, or backing up enough stuff to easily restore my system, eh?05:30
tritiumTatey: no worries05:30
jbroomeout it comes on 26th05:30
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koko775hello?05:30
koko775can anyone help?05:30
tritiumgodtvisken: soon!05:30
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grndslmwhy don't you goobers look at distrowatch.com or the friggin' ubuntu.com homepage for pete's sake!?!?!?!?05:30
godtviskensorry i not mean to be rude05:30
globeBoelcke: yep.05:30
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tritiumbe nice, grndslm05:30
RhiNocan someone pm me and help me?05:30
koko775um, not being able to use firefox kind of decreases my productivity :<05:31
grndslmgodtvisken, i'm sorry....you're not a goober05:31
vertanaDoes anybody know what will change from Edgy Eft Beta to Edgy Eft Final (tomorrow)?05:31
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jbinder!schedule05:31
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule05:31
globekoko775: why cannot you use ff?05:31
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godtviskengrndslm: what means goober?05:31
Tateyvertana: probably nothing05:31
Boelckeglobe, ok, then one more question: If I'm going for the "whole system" backup, I guess there are other dirs I'd want to include too, right?05:31
CppIsWeirdtatey: nothing matches VNC05:31
koko775globe: because the screen won't refresh, i have to press ctrl-minus to get it to refresh05:31
koko775er, the page in ff05:31
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koko775won't refresh05:31
vertanaWell just smack me down Tatey :P05:31
koko775the title changes05:31
grndslmgodtvisken, i'm honestly not sure....try typing "define:goober" into google05:31
koko775and it doesn't update the display for whatever reason05:32
fluvvellmusic_man_nz, are you using Edgy, or Dpper?05:32
fluvvellDapper05:32
koko775i just installed edgy and on top of it, beryl05:32
globeBoelcke: probably, but I couldnt tell you what the are.  /home/ is probably where most of your files are, unless you compulsively save somewhere else05:32
globekoko775: is it a problem with ff or xwindows05:32
BoelckeThanks.05:33
globeBoelcke: sure05:33
koko775how do i tell?05:33
globekoko775: do other programs not refresh?05:33
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koko775well, epiphany works fine05:33
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globekoko775: I would bet that the problem is not ff, but somewhere in you video card drivers05:34
koko775i'm using the computer right now, with xchat05:34
CppIsWeirdwhat is the vnc server called? i need to restart the server05:34
lasindiHi everyone, is there a specific time when Edgy will be released? (I ask since it's October 26 in certain timezones.)05:34
calamarihi05:34
globekoko775: but thats a bet05:34
phire_NZ!ef05:34
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!05:34
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globeCppIsWeird: ps -la,05:34
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lasindiAh05:34
pixelPOEThullo, all!05:34
phire_NZhello05:34
Born_In_Xixaxkoko775: might try either making sure your video driver is the latest/greatest, or changing it to something vanilla like vesa05:35
lasindiphire_NZ: out of curiosity, who finalizes it for download?05:35
grndslmumm....so i've got a strange question....i got this fancy shmancy new 320gb sata hd and i plugged it in....but when it's plugged in the bios always freezes at "Detecting IDE drives..." even tho it's not an ide drive, and reboots a few minutes later....and when the sata hd is unplugged, the bios works perfectly. WHAT GIVES?!?05:35
La_PaRCaHey. How do I get apt-get to ignore a dependency that is not installable?05:35
CppIsWeirdglobe, that didnt do anything useful05:35
globeCppIsWeird: that will list all the processes, then you should be able to find what vncserver you are using05:35
phire_NZlasindi: no idea05:35
koko775Born_In_Xixax: it is the latest/greatest, and i'm reluctant to disable acceleration since that would probably cripple beryl05:35
calamarianyone know how to use the cups interface?  I don't know what to use for username and password05:35
RancidLMhey all, so i just got this new LG monitor and set up the resolution to the 1680x1050  but all the text looks horible im not sure if its my xorg configurations but is there a way to make the readible? thnx05:35
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Born_In_Xixaxkoko775: at least it would confirm that it's a video driver issue05:35
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koko775doesn't epiphany use the gecko rendering engine? there's no reason that ff should be specifically targeted :/05:36
koko775true05:36
koko775i'll try it without starting beryl05:36
Born_In_Xixaxnot sure if there is any way to change the way FF uses video accel...probably not :/05:36
Born_In_Xixaxuse Opera :)05:36
koko775brb or bbl depending on what happens05:36
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CppIsWeirdi do not see any reference to it in there05:36
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globekoko775: good luck05:36
phire_NZLa_PaRCa: I'm no expert, but --force might work, however it might mess some things up05:36
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McGraggeri am crashing around every 10 minutes, i think it is beryl, how do i know for sure05:36
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Born_In_Xixaxdisable beryl?05:37
grndslmMcGragger, try removing beryl and see if you're still crashing05:37
RhiNoCan someone please help me get my wireless network set up i have installed ndiswrapper and my network card is linksys wireless g (wpc45g ver 1.2)05:37
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koko775hmm05:37
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McGraggeri said that wrong, i am pretty sure it is, or a combination of things05:37
globeRhiNo: does the card work with ndiswrapper?05:37
koko775with beryl disabled, still the same problem05:37
Born_In_XixaxRhiNo: have you run 'ndiswrapper -i yourfile.inf'  ?05:37
GhostFreemanAny plans to bundle Zfone in Edgy>05:37
RhiNoyes05:37
RhiNoim pretty sure i have05:38
tritiumGhostFreeman: no, too late for any additions to edgy05:38
Born_In_Xixaxso the card does not appear at all under the network manager?05:38
RhiNoi was talking to someone else then he had to go05:38
globeRhiNo: what are you trying to do now....can you establish a connection?05:38
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McGraggerhow do i look at system logs to diagnose the problem?05:38
RhiNoyes it does as eth105:38
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RhiNoit will connect if i hook it up via ethernet05:38
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Kawaii-Panda /var/log?05:38
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RhiNobut if i try the wireless i cannot get it05:38
RhiNowhich is how i want it since it is my laptop05:38
DemonicHey everyone05:38
phire_NZMcGragger: they are in /var/log/05:39
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Born_In_XixaxRhiNo: dapper or edgy?05:39
RhiNohuh05:39
Kawaii-Pandaim sure they are, phire.05:39
GhostFreemanthanks tritium05:39
globeRhiNo: what ubuntu are you using?05:39
Born_In_XixaxUbuntu 6.04 or 6.10 ?05:39
RhiNonot sure05:39
RhiNohow do i find out05:39
FlannelRhiNo: lsb_release -a05:39
Born_In_Xixaxhelp, about?05:39
Kawaii-Pandadoes your firefox icon have a fox?05:39
RhiNo6.0605:39
RhiNodrapper05:39
McGraggerphire_NZ: and what might I look for?05:39
rabbitonly?05:40
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grndslmumm....so i've got a strange question....i got this fancy shmancy new 320gb sata hd and i plugged it in....but when it's plugged in the bios always freezes at "Detecting IDE drives..." even tho it's not an ide drive, and reboots a few minutes later....and when the sata hd is unplugged, the bios works perfectly. WHAT GIVES?!?05:40
lainprolianthello :)05:40
snookyhi all05:40
RhiNoubuntu 6.06.1 LTS drapper05:40
Born_In_Xixaxif you do 'ifconfig' does the eth device appear to have an IP address and all that?05:40
poningru!ef05:40
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!05:40
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snookyi dont really good speak english but i have a problem05:40
lainprolianti have a Anjuta related question05:40
globegrndslm: I would probably start with the mobo manufacturers w/s, or google05:40
poningrusnooky: whatup?05:40
RhiNoif i do ifconfig it only shows "lo"05:40
RhiNoif i do ifconfig -a05:40
Flannelsnooky: what language?05:41
snookygerman05:41
Flannel!de05:41
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:41
Milpoolis there anyone here who can possibly help me with my beryl/xgl05:41
RhiNoit shows under eth1 no ip05:41
RhiNowhich is where it should be05:41
Munchkinguygoodnight05:41
Toma-Milbot: #ubuntu-xgl05:41
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Born_In_Xixaxwhat happens when you do 'sudo ifup eth1'  ?05:41
snookyat #ubuntu-de all sleep05:41
globeRhiNo: $ iwconfig05:41
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Flannelsnooky: alright, was worth a try ;)05:41
lainproliantis anyone here good with automake? ^_^05:41
Milpoolsorry there was no one answering in there and thought i would try here05:42
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brian98any nagios guru?05:42
brian98gurus even05:42
RhiNoif i do sudo ifup eth105:42
snookyi winat configure djplay, but by ./configure i become a error => configure: error: QTDIR must be properly set.05:42
RhiNoit says interface eth1 already configured05:42
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RhiNoim using web 128 bit encryption05:42
Born_In_XixaxRhiNo: sorry, that's all the stuff I know :/05:43
RhiNo26 hex digits05:43
RhiNooh05:43
globeRhiNo: you will need to use iwconfig05:43
zoidberghey...does anyone know why with MSN messenger in GAIM...it gives me an "error with switchboard" when i try to message someone05:43
RhiNook i did iwconfig05:43
lainprolianthmm05:43
brian98RhiNo, turn off all encryption , get it working05:43
RhiNook05:43
lainprolianti have gotten that before zoidberg05:43
globeRhiNo: I don't remember the syntax, but if you man iwconfig it will have all the quirks05:43
brian98RhiNo, turn off all encryption , then put your encryption back on05:43
carthikI have a dell inspiron 6400 and can't get a high res display - i have tried the usual tricks, I use the vesa driver. I have added a modeline and yet it does not start with a higher resolution. any help is welcome05:44
RhiNodo i leave wep key blank?05:44
lainprolianti am not sure what causes it but its only temporary in my case05:44
RhiNoif i do it with all encryption05:44
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zoidberglainproliant: so should i log out and try again or something?05:44
lainproliantyeah that might work05:44
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globeRhiNo: yes, if you use no encryption, leave wep key blank05:44
RhiNook05:44
RhiNoalso ive noticed05:44
RhiNowhen i activate eth1 which is wireless05:45
lainproliantany programmers ? ^_^05:45
Flannelsnooky: do you have the right qt -dev libraries installed?05:45
RhiNoi click ok and such then reopen the network settings05:45
lainprolianti need help getting my Anjuta working05:45
RhiNoits not active anymore05:45
brian98no one into nagios then05:45
Born_In_Xixaxcarthik: have you tried 'sudo dpkh-reconfigure xserver-xorg?05:45
brian98not to worry05:45
mikm[laptop] dpkg05:45
carthikBorn_In_Xixax: yes, I have05:45
Born_In_Xixax'sudo dpkg-reconfigure...'05:45
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Megaqwertywhen I'm using firefox, the audio from anything done in flash is way out of sync with the video. Is that just a problem with flash 7, or is my computer not configured correctly?05:45
digiKnighteredgy eft , when ?05:45
LeoStewart!ef05:45
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!05:45
snookyFlannel yes05:45
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globewow...talk about the question of the day!05:45
carthikI have tried that, I have tried all the things I have known to work in the past..  this totally beats me.05:45
Born_In_Xixaxcarthik: k...first couple of times I used it, I did not realize you have to specifically select the resolution modes to make available, by putting a star next to each one...05:45
LeoStewartI'm getting the hang of these little factoid things...05:45
carthikBorn_In_Xixax: yup, did that.05:46
Kawaii-Pandaedgy +1, when?05:46
FlannelMegaqwerty: it's a common flash7 issue, you could try flash905:46
brian98Well, I'm running edgy and I just got a ton of updates ;)05:46
MegaqwertyFlannel: thanks05:46
carthikKawaii-Panda: april 18th or something like that05:46
brian98so...05:46
FlannelMegaqwerty: see !flash9 for the deb ;)05:46
RhiNoi cant get wireless working without encryption either05:46
Kawaii-Pandacool... right in time for april fools! :)05:46
globeRhiNo: what are you doing to get it working?05:46
Megaqwertybrain98: interesting, I should check my update manager as well....05:46
RhiNoi went to config it05:46
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RhiNoi mean properties05:47
RhiNoand set the essid05:47
RhiNoand dchp05:47
RhiNothen activated eth105:47
tritium!enter05:47
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.05:47
Megaqwertywhoa yeah, brian98 is correct.05:47
globeRhiNo: k. lets try this from the terminal.05:48
RhiNook05:48
Born_In_Xixaxcarthik: I assume you've found this how-to link: http://individual.utoronto.ca/jaelle_kitty/inspiron6400/H05:48
RhiNoglobe can u pm me?05:48
RhiNoeasier to follow in a pm lol05:48
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lainproliantAnyone here good with Anjuta?05:49
RhiNobut if not i do now have terminal open05:49
edgyHi, I have an edgy chroot system that I want to turn into a fully bootable system now so I cp -a all the files to a new partition and now want to install grub on that partition. How should I convince the mbr to read the new one?05:49
fwitAnders are you there05:49
globeRhiNo: join #RhiNo-gl0be05:49
fwitnvm05:49
Flanneledgy: install grub to the MBR05:49
Flannel!tell edgy about grub05:49
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fourcould someone tell me the command to mount a drive at start up05:50
fournetwork drive05:50
fourmy mistaker05:50
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brian98ntfs?05:51
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fourya05:51
Toma-nfs?05:51
Flannel!samba05:51
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:51
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edgyFlannel: thx a lot I am reading now ...05:51
fouri use i use sudo mount -t smbfs //server/e //home/four/test   taht to mount it05:51
mattStahow can i use my ipod shuffle in ubuntu05:51
fourbut someone toldme i could auto mout it05:51
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Omicronmorning all.05:52
AdelaideLukefour: Example: mount -t ntfs /dev/hdaX /media/X05:52
Megaqwertyis there a blog or something like that on the status of being able to write to ntfs?05:52
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TateyNTFS has full read/write support as of 2.6.1805:52
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fouradelaideluke: that will moun it at start up?05:52
mattStacan someone out there please help me upload songs from my computer to my ipod05:52
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fourwell its a nework drive05:53
fouris the thing05:53
MegaqwertyTatey: is that a kernel version?05:53
Born_In_XixaxMegaqwerty: in the Ubuntu forums (ubuntuforums.org) there is a HowTo on how to enable NTFS read/write05:53
TateymattSta: might want to check out Quod Libet or GTKpod05:53
Megaqwertythanks05:53
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TateymattSta: yes, that's the latest stable kernel version05:53
calamariTatey: full?  you mean it can modify files and change their size?05:53
OmicronTriade, R U out there??05:53
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Tateycalamari: yes, the NTFS-3G drive has been merged into the main tree (2.6.18)05:53
calamaricool05:53
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AdelaideLukefour... no you have to add the command to your etc/fstab file05:54
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fourthanks05:54
OmicronGuess not.05:54
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idelHi all, has someone a mplayer1RC1 precompiled deb package? I am trying by myself but the sound doesn't work :(05:54
OmicronBye05:54
Siph0nhey, what is this driver for: mrv8k driver ?05:54
mattStaim having problems with packeges, something about lilypond-data05:55
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nilatshow do you optimize the sources.list file?05:56
nilatsto put the fastest resps first, delete duplicates etc05:56
MegaqwertyBorn_In_Xixax: it says that it is in beta. Am I looking at the wrong howto?05:56
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mattStaim having problems with packeges, something about lilypond-data05:56
Leonewhats the kernel i must install to ubuntu breezy?05:57
AdelaideLukeDoes anyone know if 6.10 is being released today?05:57
Tatey!edgyfinal05:57
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!05:57
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meat`2is there an app i can use on ubuntu to remote access a windows machine?05:58
Kawaii-Pandaidea: why not put the answer to the question of the day (when will edgy arrive) as the default welcome message for this chatroom?05:58
tritiummeat`2: yes, and it's already installed for you under Applications->Internet05:58
edgymeat`2: I guess vnc05:58
ianmacgregormeat`2: Yes, it's called nautilus :)05:58
Maczimusno- i think he means the terminal client05:59
ianmacgregorAhh, ok05:59
Maczimusit has a remote desktop option05:59
meat`2yeah something like vnc05:59
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Maczimusyeah you can do vnc ssh and the like with it05:59
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edgymeat`2: vino e.g06:00
aztektumwhat's the command to restart GDM from the CLI06:00
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roolydoes anyone have an faq or a howto for the ubuntu server?06:00
ClayGI saw a good one on a site06:01
MegaqwertyI am looking at a howto on NTFS for linux, and it says that it is still in beta. Is this correct? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=Ntfs06:01
ClayGfor a webserver? or installing with the "server" arguement?06:01
roolyfor a webserver06:01
roolythe server installer package06:01
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AdelaideLukeMegaqwerty: I believe so. Reading NTFS drives is ok, writting is still a slight issue (i had none, however)...06:02
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ClayGI know if you use ther server install it just means it will install the base, no x-windows stuff like that06:03
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ClayGbut there is a good howto on how to make it a full blown webserver, similar to cpanel06:03
Maczimusyeah that was a suprise...06:03
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Maczimustrying to figure out how to download webmin....prolly have to use wget06:04
MegaqwertyAdelaideLuke: Okay, thanks. I don't want to chance it unless it is totally safe, as I would be transferring files from my computer to different computers (running windows) on my network. The people who use them wouldn't be happy if I messed up their HD :-P Thanks.06:04
Maczimuson server that is06:04
Siph0nhow can i check which chipset my wireless card uses? cause im not sure if i should be using the madwifi or ndiswrapper drivers06:04
Born_In_XixaxMegaqwerty: if you are transferring files over the network, you will be using Samba, which is going to be safe06:04
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roolyi'm stupid enough to attempt a linux webserver without much experience with unix os's at all06:05
Born_In_XixaxNTFS read/write is a method to do so to NTFS partitions on the same box06:05
Clinton__rooly: that makes you no different than anyone else!06:05
Born_In_Xixaxsince NTFS is MS, and not open source, it may never be 100%06:05
bawnpantfs write is masochists06:05
AdelaideLukeMegaqwerty: Np :)  But again; I had no issues! However; always better to be safe than sorry!06:05
Megaqwertyyeah, that seems to be a problem with them. Anyone know why they don't change to the more efficient ext3?06:06
roolyso, i googled for an faq, but i haven't found one yet06:06
Megaqwerty(out of curiosity)06:06
Madpilotubotu, lamp | rooly06:06
uboturooly: lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.06:06
Born_In_XixaxMegaqwerty: to reiterate, mounting/connecting to computers over the network (i.e. via windows networking protocol) is totally safe06:06
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MegaqwertyBorn_In_Xixax: I'm asking if it is safe to write to those HDs, I have no problem copying from them.06:07
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Born_In_Xixaxyes, over the network06:08
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Born_In_Xixaxif you install an NTFS format hard drive in your linux PC, then you will be using NTFS-3G, and it is risker06:08
JonBoonhow do i install a tar.gz ?06:08
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bnokihiya.06:08
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Maczimusif you are writing to them over the network your linux machine is just telling windows to write the file. then windows takes care of it. otherwise if you are trying to write to a hard drive in a machine in linux then that's when you have problems.06:09
bnokii want to install ubuntu from a usb drive.. any projects regarding that ? i've got a laptop with only a floppy disk but no other machines in the house with floppies :)06:09
Born_In_XixaxJonBoon: tar.gz is equivalent to .zip format...it is a compressed archive.  Generally you double click it to open it with archive manager...then look for a README or INSTALL file to tell you where to go from there06:09
sfulmeris it soup yet?06:09
AdelaideLukeJonBoon: thats a compressed file; you need to extract it using something like gzip06:09
cherubielJonBoon: depends, the tar.gz might mostly contain sources; you'd need to compile it manually and generate sources; on the other hand, if it contains the binaries, just run them.06:09
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JonBoonits the new firefox06:10
cherubielJonBon: start with tar zxvf name.tar.gz06:10
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cherubielJonBoon: just run the above command, cd into the direcotyr; run ./firefox06:10
Born_In_Xixaxdon't listen to this command line fools!  just double click the tar.gz :P06:10
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cherubielBorn_In_Xixax: well if he was on wmaker, what would he clikc on??!??06:11
landexemOkay so there;s an "xserver-xgl" package in Edgy'x universe component... if I install it (and dependencie) will that theoretically be everything I need to have XGL and related stuff?06:11
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Siph0nI read in a forum post that the mrv8k driver that comes with ubuntu is defective and should be deleted, is that true? :)06:11
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Leonewhats the kernel i must install to ubuntu breezy?06:12
Born_In_Xixaxif he was on wmaker, he would know how to handle a tar.gz...but j/k sorry :)06:12
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cherubielBorn_In_Xixax: peace! :)06:12
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cherubielLeone: you should talk about repos, not kernel.06:12
cherubiel!repos06:13
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:13
Leonecherubiel, my sistem is not ready06:13
Leonei need the kernel06:13
Leonei must make aptitude install kernelxxx06:13
Leonewhat kernel must i write06:13
cherubielLeone: what stage are you in the install?06:13
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Leonei am installing with  ebootstrap06:14
Leonei need the kernel06:14
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ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!06:14
Leonecherubiel, root@dhcppc0:/#  ls /boot/06:14
Leonecoffee.bmp  debianlilo.bmp  memtest86+.bin  sid.bmp06:14
Leonedebian.bmp  grub            sarge.bmp06:14
Kawaii-Panda!fa06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:15
Kawaii-Pandawhat? no release date for feisty fawn?06:15
Siph0nlol06:15
ianmacgregorKawaii-Panda: Wouldn't that be ff?06:16
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dotwafflemdadm help needed - wanting to grow RAID 5, 3 devices to 4 devices. Error re: Cannot set size/shape. Ideas?06:16
Kawaii-Panda!ff06:16
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins06:16
Maczimusi think i read april-19th for fawn06:16
AdelaideLukeKawaii-Panda: yah april 19 :p06:16
Kawaii-Pandai dont think so ian...06:16
ClayGanyone here use a laptop mount for their car? or gps for lappy? anyone here use a laptop mount for their car? or gps for lappy?06:16
dotwaffleClayG: Yeah06:16
dotwaffleClayG: GPS plugged into laptop06:16
Leonei need install kernel06:16
Leoneto brezzy06:16
dotwaffleLeone: Which? Why?06:16
Leonewhat kernel do i need06:16
ClayGdotwaffle: should i get the cheapest?06:16
ClayGas far as receivers go , are they all the same?06:16
AdelaideLukeKawaii-Panda: The Fridge knows all :p06:17
Leoneroot@dhcppc0:/#  ls /boot/06:17
Leonecoffee.bmp  debianlilo.bmp  memtest86+.bin  sid.bmp06:17
Leonedebian.bmp  grub            sarge.bmp06:17
Leone dotwaffle06:17
ClayGbesides size and clunkyness06:17
ClayGLeone: can you take that to a pastebin?06:17
dotwaffleLeone: Install package "linux-386" for breezy. It will pull in the required packages for you.06:17
ClayGmy bad06:17
dotwaffleClayG: Where in the world are you?06:17
ianmacgregorLeone: M box is fully updated and I have 2.6.15-27-386 as my latest kernel.. if that helps.06:17
ClayGFlorida06:17
Leonedotsony, i think it will not wotk becouse the stable is edgy now06:17
Leoneok thanks ianmacgregor06:17
dotwaffleClayG: Ok, America then ;) Get any USB or PS/2 GPS that does NOT have a screen or the "Microsoft" tag on it, and it'll work out of the box, they are essentially usb->Serial adaptors, and any GPS program can talk to them over normal /dev/ttsy0 etc - essentially, plug and play ;)06:18
MadpilotLeone, no, Edgy isn't stable for another 24hrs or so ;)06:18
dotwaffleClayG: At least that's thecase in the UK.06:18
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blankyhey guys06:18
JonBoonblarg! why isnt firefox2 just in the synaptic package manager??06:19
blankyin ssh, what's the command to copy things to my computer?06:19
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blankyscp what what?06:19
dotwaffleLeone: make sure your etc/apt/sources.list has breezy in it, instead of edgy then06:19
blankyi sshed into my other computer and I need to copy the /boot/grub/menu.lst onto mine06:19
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MadpilotJonBoon, because it's still beta?06:19
wastrelscp local.file user@remote.host:06:19
dotwaffleJonBoon: It's referenced to Firefox, just install firefox, all the magic is done for you06:19
blankywhat's the command, scp ?06:19
blankythanks wastrel06:19
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ianmacgregorblanky: scp user@host:/path/source /path/target06:19
dotwaffleblanky: sudo scp HOST:/boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.list06:20
dotwafflemdadm help needed - wanting to grow RAID 5, 3 devices to 4 devices. Error re: Cannot set size/shape. Ideas?06:20
blankyianmacgregor, wastrel, dotwaffle, thanks06:20
dotwaffleno probs06:20
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blankywait, if my computer ip is 127.0.0.1 and I'm sshe'd into the computer which contains the file I want to download, what would I do, assuming the file is called test.txt06:21
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blankysorry for the hassle but I'm kind of in a panick at the moment heh06:21
dotwaffleblanky: don't look at 127.0.0.1, that's "localhost" find another ip in ifconfig06:21
blankyI know that that's the localhost06:21
dotwaffleoh ok ;)06:21
dotwaffleblanky: sudo scp 1.2.3.4:/boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.list06:22
blankyokay thanks dotwaffle06:22
dotwaffleno probs06:22
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blankyso 1.2.3.4 is the computer im using to ssh into the computer which contains the file?06:22
dotwafflecorrect06:22
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dotwafflewell...06:22
blankybasically, I sshed into my other computer which has a file I need, how can I put it on mine, oh okay thanks for the help dotwaffle06:22
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dotwafflemachine that has the file is 1.2.3.406:23
ClayGdotwaffle: whats the scoop on gps, im in florida06:23
ClayGlol06:23
ClayGdoes it matter if i get the cheapest, as far as the receivers go?06:23
dotwaffleClayG: In the UK, at least, the cheaper, the more chance they're going to be supported.06:23
ClayGI mean the data is going to be processed/formatted by the computer so i wouldn't imagine it matters06:23
dotwaffleClayG: Wait one second.06:23
ClayGno kiffinh06:23
ClayGkiffinh06:23
ClayGer whatever06:23
ClayGlol06:23
cafuegogleesond: Are you in Florida, plus or minus 500 miles? ;-)06:23
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ClayGok, the next issue is laptop mounts06:23
ClayGi want a good one06:24
ClayGsomething like whast the cops use06:24
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Jay2hey, folks06:24
timhudsonhrllo06:24
ClayGi want to be able to have my laptop in the middle to use, watch DVD's , use the GPS or if i decide to get raped on price, use the internet06:24
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ClayGdo you know anything about thaT?06:24
ClayGlaptop mounts?06:24
ClayGor do you just keep yours on the passenger seat06:24
timhudsonpassenger seat for me06:25
ClayGthat is an option (temp) but iumagine having it in the middle , held up in the air, easy to use06:25
dotwaffleClayG: I have a co-driver to use the laptop, but if not, laptop in passenger well, scren pointing towards me.06:25
ClayGtransforming your laptop into a awesome dvd player06:25
dotwaffleClayG: In the UK at least, that would be illegal. restricts field of vision06:25
ClayGyeah everyone has the preferences06:26
ClayGI prefer the midlde06:26
ClayGmiddle06:26
blankydotwaffle, sorry for the trouble, but if you're already ssh'ed into the computer that contains the file you want, is there another command I should use?06:26
dotwaffleI'd recommend you don't especially if you're driving - don't want you to become another statistic ;)06:26
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dotwaffleblanky: if you're ssh'd in, then you could either log out, or just scp the file back over...06:26
ianmacgregorblanky: Are you using gnome-terminal?06:26
ClayGdotwaffle: haven't taken the law  into consideration, not one of the factors im using06:26
Jay2I am fairly new to Ubuntu. Got xchat working, got my linux box networked to my windows box. Downloaded Quasar (business software), got it extracted, but can't figure out how to install it.06:27
ClayGbut it is good to know06:27
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blankyianmacgregor, I'm on windows, using PuTTY06:27
timhudsonIs there a way to install ubuntu on my ibook, with out it crapping out my osx install? I want to dual boot, but I'm very leary of killing my osx install06:27
blankydotwaffle, how would I do the latter, with the command you gave me?06:27
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FastZJay2: what type of file did you download?06:27
blankyI tried doing06:27
AdamKiliwhat command do i use to find my IP address in the terminal? (e.g. 192.168.0.506:27
dotwaffleblanky => PM06:27
AdamKili)06:27
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blankysudo scp 1.2.3.4:/book/grub/menu.lst .06:27
Born_In_XixaxAdamKili: ifconfig06:28
blankyassuming 1.2.3.4 is the ip (i changed it of course) and it asked me for the password, I typed it in, and it kept saying wrong password06:28
blankyokay dotwaffle06:28
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Jay2FastZ: /home/malcowee/Desktop/quasar-1.4.7_GPL.tgz06:28
AdamKility06:28
d3v1ant_0n3Just a super quickie- it's not worth me starting a forum thread over- but why, if i run Nautilus from within Kubuntu, does it load my GNOME wallpaper up with the nautilus browser?06:28
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wastreld3v1ant_0n3:  nautilus is responsible for drawing the root window in gnome.  there should be a pref to turn that off...06:29
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ianmacgregord3v1ant_0n3: Because nautilus manages the desktop as default behaviour. If you don't want it to do that, run: nautilus --no-desktop06:29
FastZJay2: try alien -d quasar-1.4.7_GPL.tgz while in the /home/malcowee/Desktop directory06:29
AdelaideLukeAdamKili: You can also use netstat06:29
d3v1ant_0n3ah ok. ty!06:29
AdelaideLukeit's a little more verbose, however! :p06:30
Jay2FastZ:  after I got it unpacted , here's what I have:  /home/malcowee/Desktop/quasar-1.4.7_GPL06:30
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StravosShould glxinfo show Mesa for the OpenGL renderer with the open source radeon driver?06:30
FastZJay2:  and that is a folder right?06:30
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Jay2yes FastZ06:31
timhudsonIs there a way to install ubuntu on my ibook, with out it crapping out my osx install? I want to dual boot, but I'm very leary of killing my osx install?06:31
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FastZJay2: is there a ./config in there06:31
Jay2yes, I'm sure06:31
rebelfallenwhat is a good scan range for a 1024x768 monitor? My settings are:     HorizSync    31.5 - 48.5   /   VertRefresh  40.0 - 60.0    but the monitor still says "OUT OF SCAN RANGE 64.0kHz/ 60Hz"06:31
rebelfallenThe secondary monitor is a sony 15" lcd06:31
FastZJay2: have you tried to open up a terminal and run the command ./configure ?06:32
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FastZJay2: or ./config, my mistake06:32
Jay2no, how do I do that?06:32
ianmacgregorFastZ: iirc, it's ./configure06:33
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FastZianmacgregor: thanks for the correction06:33
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OSVHey!06:34
FastZJay2:  terminal into the quasar-1.4.7_GPL folder06:34
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Jay2how does one open up a terminal?????????06:34
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rebelfallenuh oh06:34
yunfeihello06:34
rebelfallenI just angered the monitor gods06:34
ianmacgregorJay2: ALT+F2, type in: gnome-terminal06:34
OSVHow can I listen to mp3 music in Ubuntu/GNU?06:34
FastZJay2: sorry, Applications > Accessories > Terminal06:34
JonBoonim trying to add xmms skins. how do i give myself permission to drag skins to the filesystem folder06:35
Jay2thanks, FastZ06:35
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FunnyLookinHatOSV, restricted formats  :)06:35
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FunnyLookinHat!restricted06:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:35
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Stravos!mesa06:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:35
FastZJay2: no problem06:35
OSVFunnyLookinHat, ???06:35
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ianmacgregorJonBoon: Skins for xmms can go into ~/.xmms/Skins06:36
FunnyLookinHatOSV, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats06:36
FunnyLookinHatOSV, that page will tell you how06:36
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StravosI guess I'll give it another shot... anyone know if "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 TCL" is correct in glxinfo if I'm running the 'radeon' driver?06:37
Xitiumhas 6.10 been released yet? The ubuntu site says 6.10 released but I can't find it for download06:37
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Vuenwhat's up #ubuntu, I'm trying to play a winamp stream in mplayer and I get this: avisynth.dll06:37
Vueni'm missing that file06:38
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Vuenhow do i get win32 libraries on here?06:38
CientificoLocojrib,06:38
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CientificoLocohola06:38
FunnyLookinHatXitium, so it has...   : )   Just give the site a bit of time to update the download pages06:38
CientificoLocosorry06:38
CientificoLocojrib, hello06:38
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CientificoLocojrib, I wanna install firefox 2 in my laptop and I think If I do that I can unfix it.06:38
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The_Jack_of_Clubcool 6.10 is released06:39
FunnyLookinHatXitium, here's a link for ya  : )06:39
iovar!ef06:39
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!06:39
FunnyLookinHatXitium, http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.10/06:39
CientificoLocojrib, are you there?06:39
Vuenguys, mplayer says i'm missing this:06:39
VuenWin32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll06:39
Vuenhow do i get it?06:40
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The_Jack_of_Clubis it released...06:40
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RhiNoCan someone please run me through how to remove my shit from ndiswrapper?06:40
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RancidLMwhat is the command to run another Xsession?06:40
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DigitalNinjaHow do I reinstall grub? I did an install of knoppix on the second drive (sdb). I need to put grub back on the first drive (sda)06:40
ianmacgregorRancidLM: startx -- 1:  I believe06:41
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The_Jack_of_Clubboo06:41
The_Jack_of_Clubits not released06:41
rebelfallenwhat is a good scan range for a 1024x768 monitor? My settings are:     HorizSync    31.5 - 48.5   /   VertRefresh  40.0 - 60.0    but the monitor still says "OUT OF SCAN RANGE 64.0kHz/ 60Hz"06:41
The_Jack_of_Clubgot my hopes up with the changed front page06:41
RhiNoCan anyone help me Remove whats already in my ndiswrapper?06:41
norbert_cThe_Jack_of_Club, its nearly lunchtime here too...06:42
SaLsIcHaubuntu 6.10 is out o.O06:42
ianmacgregorrebelfallen: The best thing you can do is get your monitor make/model and google for specs.06:42
Vuenfinally!06:42
Vuencrack open the shampagne!06:42
RhiNoglobe are you there?06:42
rebelfallenI already have tried06:42
SaLsIcHao.o06:42
SaLsIcHaomg06:42
The_Jack_of_Clubso06:42
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SaLsIcHaand i don't speek english @_@06:42
The_Jack_of_Clubwait06:42
SaLsIcHa;_;06:43
ianmacgregorrebelfallen: What make/model is the monitor (and what company)?06:43
The_Jack_of_Clubis it or isnt it?06:43
SaLsIcHawww.ubuntu.com :P06:43
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XitiumRhiNo: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Uninstall06:43
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norbert_cits on front page in text only...06:43
The_Jack_of_Clubuh huh06:43
The_Jack_of_Clubwelp its close06:43
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mneptonsoon06:43
mneptonnot now. but soon. promise.06:44
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Xitiumto pass the time Im gonna install fc6 and check it out06:44
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RhiNoty that worked quick06:44
CientificoLocojrib, are you there?06:44
CientificoLocojrib, are you there?06:44
The_Jack_of_Clubim still on my first real ubuntu install and i gotta say its the best ive ever used so i wanna be one of the first to get 6.1006:44
mneptonXitium: you could check out yesterday's daily build of Edgy ....06:44
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globewhat is the point of runlevels?06:45
timhudsonhmmm... Is there a way to speed up the trackpad of a G4 ibook in 6.06?06:45
Xitiummnepton: I could but Im only got one cd left and all the stores are currently closed :P06:45
mneptonyou're not going to get FC6 on a single CD06:46
XitiumI have it burned on a dvd06:46
hyperpenguinHi there! I'm looking to upgrade to Edgy, but my Dapper box doesn't think it needs any updates, even after apt-get update and then dist-upgrade. Any ideas?06:46
ianmacgregorXitium: FC6 is five cd's06:46
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jbroomehyperpenguin: yeah, wait for the final release06:46
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The_Jack_of_Clubfc5 was a big disappointment to me06:46
hyperpenguinThe final release isn't out yet? That'd do it... lol06:47
spdfhyperpenguin, your repos are likely pointing to dapper still.06:47
hyperpenguinAh right, they are.06:47
XitiumThe_Jack_of_Club: me too I'm not expecting too much with 606:47
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hyperpenguinSo I judt change every instance of "dapper" to "edgy" in sources.list?06:47
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rredd4hper  yes06:48
amicrawlehow do i get lxdvdrip in dapper06:48
wikijeffSo is the final version of edgy out now?06:48
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iovar!ef06:48
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!06:48
The_Jack_of_Clubwikijeff: not yet06:48
The_Jack_of_Clubbut any moment now it will be06:48
globehyperpenguin: I would bet that if you give it time, you will get a dist-upgrade notify06:48
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amicrawlei'm trying to copy a dvd to iso so i can make may copies06:48
_samuelhello06:48
mikepencehello all06:48
_samuelwhen is 6.10 out?06:48
hyperpenguinOkay, thanks for the help, and sorry about the idiotic question.06:48
wikijeffThe_Jack_of_Club, I'm on the edge of my seat. no pun intended06:48
mikepencethis is my first night with kubuntu06:48
SeawardHey all, could someone give me some time to help me with a DHCP server issue I'm having on ubuntu please?06:48
The_Jack_of_Clubme too06:49
rredd4the ubuntu.com web page has 6.10 on it instead of 6.0606:49
naliothSeaward: if you ask a question06:49
The_Jack_of_Clubi have been really impressed by 6.06 so im totally there on 6.1006:49
Autonomy_samuel: Probably a matter of hours :p Maybe minutes... Who knows! :)06:49
yoink!ef06:49
ubotuEdgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!06:49
Xitiumrredd4 yeah but I can't find a download06:49
mikepencewow, too many users in here06:49
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phire_NZwhat time is it in PDT?06:49
rredd4Xitium oh, i have not looked06:49
rredd4yet06:49
jbroome21:4906:50
amicrawlemike welcome to the world of Linux06:50
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(wastrel/#ubuntu) why not just follow the howtos rather than trust a "use at your own risk" script06:52
(Kawaii-Panda/#ubuntu) anyone want to brainstorm new features for edgy +2, go to #ubuntu+2. thank you for listening to my (spammy) message. have a nice day.06:53
(Born_In_Xixax/#ubuntu) I assume it's all been debated06:53
(Kawaii-Panda/#ubuntu) theres so little people there.06:53
(Born_In_Xixax/#ubuntu) :)06:53
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(ianmacgregor/#ubuntu) wastrel: That's been my question for quite a while06:53
(amicrawle/#ubuntu) in a closed world your computer in a box can't see out of the box! Only what they want you to see!06:53
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(CientificoLoco/#ubuntu) somebody can help me to install the new version of firefox on my laptop06:53
ictoanthbtyare there torrents of edgy yet?06:53
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(Born_In_Xixax/#ubuntu) for me it's far easier, saves many hours of frustrating reading/configuring06:54
(amicrawle/#ubuntu) dapper is the latests06:54
(Born_In_Xixax/#ubuntu) but yes, it's caused me problems too, and shouldn't be recommended on any system you're not willing to trash06:54
(Born_In_Xixax/#ubuntu) so, no more will be spoken06:54
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(CientificoLoco/#ubuntu) somebody can help me to install the new version of firefox on my laptop06:54
[SUDO] Tuxjoin /#sudo06:54
(globe/#ubuntu) can ubuntu install osx programs?06:54
(amicrawle/#ubuntu) yes06:54
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amicrawlesudo apt-get upgrade firefox06:55
Fujitsuglobe: Ubuntu != OS X06:55
barnetodsup guys06:55
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The_Jack_of_Clubwhen is firefox 2 gonna be in the repos?06:55
jbroomeglobe: no06:55
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barnetodhey anyone know of a link for the official 6.10 release?06:55
jbroomethere isn't one yet06:55
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The_Jack_of_Clubbarnetod: not yet06:55
barnetodblarg lol06:55
ArrenLexJack: In dapper? Never, since edgy comes out tomorrow. In edgy? It is already.06:55
Autonomybarnetod: nope! :p06:55
amicrawlei have 6.1006:55
ictoanthbty6.10 rc?06:56
phire_NZbeta?06:56
barnetodi downloaded release candidate last night06:56
|thunderEDGY !   TOMORROW ??!?06:56
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|thunderYES06:56
GhostFreemanwhen is 6.10 coming out?06:56
Autonomyamicrawl? what... RC! ???06:56
rredd4amicrawle  rc>06:56
The_Jack_of_Cluboh thats cool06:56
barnetodtoday :)06:56
rredd4?06:56
ictoanthbtyedgy comes out today :/06:56
GhostFreeman!edgy06:56
ictoanthbtywithin 12 hours06:56
globejbroome: thx06:56
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule06:56
ArrenLexThe 26th.06:56
tj__barnetod: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/EdgyReleaseCandidate?highlight=%28release%29%7C%28edgy%29 (thats the best i've found)06:56
GhostFreeman!schedule06:56
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule06:56
ArrenLexWhether that's tomorrow or today depends on your timezone.06:56
Tateymust be getting close to release06:56
adhoc_!cifs06:56
ictoanthbtytoday damnit06:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:56
ictoanthbtythats why i think there should be torrents alreay :/06:56
kismet_ATI Driver question: is the 'ati' driver okay for use with Xgl/Beryl, or do I need the 'fglrx'?06:56
gnubie!schedule06:56
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FujitsuTatey: Why?06:56
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ArrenLexksimet: you need fglrx. ati offers no 3D acceleration.06:56
The_Jack_of_Clubits tomarrow in 4 minutes here06:56
barnetodim loading my first copy of ubuntu when 6.10 comes out06:57
amicrawlegot in in linuxformat lat month06:57
barnetodbeen runnign two dogs06:57
The_Jack_of_Clubso my guess is tomarrow :P06:57
ictoanthbtyi tried just visiting the 6.10 ftp pages instead of 6.06, but theyre still on RC06:57
TateyFujitsu: the ubuntu.com home page has been upated06:57
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rebelfallenI just entered the specs directly into xorg.conf and it still displays the OUT OF SCAN RANGE error06:57
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CientificoLocosomebody can help me to install the new version of firefox on my laptop06:57
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amicrawlesudo apt-get upgrade firefox06:57
ictoanthbtyyea about ubuntu page being updated,06:57
amicrawlesudo apt-get upgrade firefox06:57
amicrawlesudo apt-get upgrade firefox06:57
ictoanthbtydoes that mean theyre about to announce its released?06:57
barnetodit did get announced06:57
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barnetodubuntu.com06:57
jmworxAnyone else has got gnome applets crashing all the time?06:58
ictoanthbtyfantastic, you are06:58
kismet_ArrenLex: there seems 2 ways to get fglrx, one is from ATI.com, any suggestion?06:58
ictoanthbtywhere is it then06:58
barnetodnot uploaded06:58
Tateymirrors aren't linked yet06:58
ictoanthbtythere you go, not released :/06:58
FujitsuIt didn't get announced. The website got updated prematurely.06:58
barnetodall the stoner gotta wake up and put on their college servers06:58
ArrenLexkismet: use the one from the ubuntu repositories. It's so much easier.06:58
ArrenLex!ati06:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:58
FujitsuThere's no announcement.06:58
barnetodhey guys what are some tips to look for as far as first install06:59
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ictoanthbtytips?06:59
barnetodive already read about possible wireless issues06:59
ArrenLexbarnetod: if the livecd boots fine you're set =)06:59
kismet_Thanks, ArrenLex!06:59
tj__get swiftfox, makes life easier06:59
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barnetodgood to hear arren :)06:59
phlosten-lunchbarnetod: unlearn every about windows06:59
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phlosten-luncheverything06:59
barnetodphlosten i only use windows at work06:59
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barnetodbeen using yellowdog06:59
ArrenLextj: swiftfox = firefox + compiler optimisations - GPL + proprietary license06:59
ArrenLexWhat's so great about that?06:59
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jbroomemath is hard06:59
wastrelyup07:00
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barnetodjbroome what you working on?07:00
RhiNook i have ubuntu recognising in device manager that i indeed have my wireless card installed but i cannot connect to my wireless network anyone able to help?07:00
wastreljbroome & barbie agree07:00
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ictoanthbtyArrenLex any imporvements in swiftfox?07:00
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azurealif i do 'aptitude update', will that change my apt-cache search results?07:00
brosnanArrenLex: you can't remove the gpl from the code07:00
barnetodphlosten if i forgot everything about windows i would be out of a job :)07:00
The_Jack_of_Club!wireless07:00
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:00
tj__arrenlex: it is just nice to have a slightly faster browser :b07:01
ArrenLexictonathbty: No. You will not get nothing noticeable. I suppose you could recompile the whole gecko engine with optimisations, and maybe get a tenth of a second speed increase, but if so why aren't you running gentoo?07:01
Madpilotbrosnan, Firefox is multi-lic, actually07:01
ictoanthbtyfully :P:07:01
RhiNoyea the wifi howto dont workw ortha poop07:01
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tj__wireless >> network-manager-gnome07:01
phire_NZ6.10 been released?07:01
wastrelfirefox has some copyrighted artwork and some standard non-oss extensions07:01
barnetodshould i even try to dual boot my laptop?07:01
brosnanMadpilot: I am well aware of that, it is tri lic MPL, GPL, LPGL07:01
wastrelhence the iceweasel thing07:01
ictoanthbtyi wanna have 6.10 before tomorrow so i have time to install and play before work :/07:01
phire_NZwebsite updated07:01
ArrenLexbrosnan: that is correct, swiftfox licenses the source under the same license mozilla does; it has to. The binaries are proprietary, however.07:02
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rredd4amicrawle  when you installed edgy, did it tell you that you had to have ubuntu-desktop installed?07:02
Fujitsuphire_NZ: It's not been released, the website seems to have been updated prematurely.07:02
phire_NZoh07:02
wastrelcan we put a note about edgy not being released yet in the topic?07:02
wastrelin caps07:02
ArrenLexSee? I quote: binaries provided by getswiftfox.com are not licensed MPL and therefore are not freely distributable.  The license to use Swiftfox extends to the user that              downloads Swiftfox from this web site.  No one may repackage or redistribute Swiftfox binaries in any form without prior permission.07:02
The_Jack_of_Clubin my linux laptop i just put in my belkin wireless card and it worked right off and i couldnt get it to work in my windows laptop because it wouldnt use the drivers on the cd07:02
ArrenLex(that's from their site)07:02
ictoanthbtythanks ArrenLex07:02
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ictoanthbtyone wonders why theyd do that07:02
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MadpilotArrenLex, so what lic is it under, given that the only other two choices are GPL & LGPL?07:03
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ArrenLexMadpilot: swiftbox binaries are distributed under their own non-free license. The source code is available under the MPL because it has to be.07:03
ictoanthbtyor are they just plain ignoring OS licenses07:03
babodoes anyone know how to convert this sting into utf8 ?07:03
babo=?euc-kr?B?RW1wbG95bWVudCBPcHBvcnR1bml0eV9QYXJrZW5nbGlzaF9UcmF2ZWwgJiBUZWFjaCBFb07:03
ArrenLexictonathbty: the answer to that is on their site also:   Please also note that the licensing restrictions were put in place to safeguard Swiftfox users against the possibility of obtaining tainted versions from anyone who may wish to maliciously alter the binary and redistribute it.07:04
MadpilotArrenLex, well, that bites.07:04
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rredd4The_Jack_of_Club  thats great, i have a netgear and had to configure it with ndiswrapper.  took a while to learn how to do it..07:04
The_Jack_of_Clubheh07:04
rredd4now its easy07:04
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The_Jack_of_Clubas long as it works i guess07:05
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rredd4i have a lexmark printer, its a nightmare to config07:05
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barnetodlol rredd try epson07:05
Madpilotrredd4, Lexmark are, they're best avoided.07:05
barnetodthe propietary software to make it fully functional is a joke07:06
|thundermy epson installed over the network like a charm07:06
ArrenLexrredd4: lexmark is hit and miss. My laser printer runs with a single ppd file; my cheap colour inkjet doesn't run at all. Lexmark sucks.07:06
phlosten-lunchepson rock in linux07:06
barnetodthunder you have an all in one?07:06
mesolooking for help getting my laptop to boot ubunto off of a USB-2 drive07:06
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The_Jack_of_Clubi have a canon printer that will connect but when it prints it comes out garbled07:06
The_Jack_of_Clubi gave up trying with it07:06
mesoit has usb as one of the boot options, and I have it ahead of the hard drive07:06
|thunderbarnetod; cant remember the model. but its a regular injet with the memort stick/usb inputs for pictures.07:07
barnetodthunder mines an all in one07:07
mesoI've tried all sorts of stuff, recommended by folks on this forum, and I can boot the ubuntu on the external drive but the boot itself is coming from the hard drive.07:07
barnetodand the required epson smart panel software kills me07:07
mesoANy ideas?07:07
ictoanthbtymeso i dont know much about it, but have you loaded the proper image onto the thumb drive?07:07
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barnetodsad thing is if you lose the cd you must purchase a new 80 dollar cd07:07
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barnetodwith one 5 meg program07:07
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|thundermeso; sounds like the boot loader still has to be local07:08
tj__meso: make a linux partition on the drive?07:08
mesoit isn't a thumb drive, it's a 60gb hard drive07:08
rredd4like linuxprinting.org says, lexmark is a paperweight.  and thats putting it nicely...07:08
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mesohow do I get the bootloader onto the external?07:08
ictoanthbtyinstall to the drive?07:08
ictoanthbtythatll work nicely07:08
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meso