[12:00] <Code-E> nothins happenin
[12:01] <azureal> still i think i think  apt-cache search > aptitude search
[12:01] <LjL> azureal, not really, firefox is mentioned if you do "apt-cache show openoffice.org", that's while it gets a hit
[12:01] <LjL> azureal, not really, aptitude's search is way more flexible.
[12:01] <azureal> LjL, i dont like the big space before the descriptions start
[12:02] <Code-E> :s
[12:02] <lab> I'm trying ubuntu because I played with the Windows Vista beta and was thoroughly disgusted (I've never used a linux desktop before).  You guys think I'll be able to switch over permanently?
[12:02] <kelbizzle> of course
[12:02] <charle97> lab, do you play games?
[12:02] <stojance_> YES
[12:02] <lab> Yes
[12:02] <azureal> dual boot!
[12:02] <charle97> then No
[12:02] <anto9us> lab, myself and many others already have
[12:02] <lab> Thats one of the ones i was worried about
[12:02] <Zoohouse> jbroome: "Firstly you need to buy a license to use the VMWare software" Do I need to buy license before installing? Is it going to ask me for a key or something?
[12:02] <LjL> azureal, you can use the "-F" option to decide the format of the output.
[12:02] <charle97> lab, you'll need to dual boot
[12:03] <kelbizzle> True Combat Elite is the Best FPS in the worls
[12:03] <kelbizzle> for linux
[12:03] <lupine_85> it depends on the sort of games you like, I guess
[12:03] <lab> I dont' play *serious* games just like Starcraft, the old CS 1.6 (half life 1) and Diablo II.
[12:03] <taslavar> does anyone still play True Combat?
[12:03] <lab> No oblivion or WoW
[12:03] <Wiseguy> you can still play most if not all of those with cedega
[12:03] <charle97> lab, you may be able to use wine for those
[12:03] <azureal> ah, ok thx i'll look into it, LjL
[12:03] <jbroome> Zoohouse: the player shouldn't require any activation
[12:03] <kelbizzle> yes the new version just came out
[12:03] <lab> hrm
[12:03] <kelbizzle> .49
[12:03] <sidny4> rar
[12:03] <lupine_85> cedega and wine play many games
[12:03] <charle97> lab, wine is a like an emulator
[12:04] <lab> I'm just scared -- i'm soo...comfortable...in windows
[12:04] <azureal> LjL, because i definitely prefer aptitude install and remove over apt-get
[12:04] <Zoohouse> jbroome: and Ill be able to run win with the player right?
[12:04] <taslavar> cool, i thought it had died
[12:04] <sidny4> cedega does an ok job playing games
[12:04] <lupine_85> so was my partner - until she actualy got into linux :)
[12:04] <Ekinoks> bye bye
[12:04] <lupine_85> now she's a raving addict
[12:04] <kelbizzle> can anyone help me
[12:04] <LjL> azureal: note that the auto-removal feature will be there even in apt-get, in Edgy
[12:04] <sidny4> not as good as windows though
[12:04] <lab> cedega vs wine -- I understand what wine is, but what's cedega?
[12:04] <LjL> !cedega | lab
[12:04] <ubotu> lab: cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[12:04] <charle97> lab, use the livecd or a separate partition to test ubuntu
[12:04] <lupine_85> cedega is wine + some DX9 stuff
[12:04] <lab> ah thx
[12:04] <lupine_85> + a GUI interface
[12:04] <kelbizzle> pretty please
[12:04] <sidny4> lab, cedega is a version of wine, it used to be called winex
[12:04] <taslavar> I'm having trouble getting my iBook G3 to boot from a USB flash drive, it's not getting past the ofboot.b "Loading second stage bootstrap...", is anyone here familiar with getting yaboot to work with USB thumb drives?
[12:05] <azureal> LjL, i had a bad experience w/ updating to edgy beta... only if they would make the update process _not_ require ubuntu-desktop
[12:05] <anto9us> LjL, ahah, livecd!
[12:05] <kelbizzle> can someone help me
[12:05] <charle97> just ask your question kelbizzle
[12:05] <LjL> anto9us, it's called a Desktop CD, not a "live" CD anymore.
[12:05] <kelbizzle> X didnt start up after installing and now I'm stuck at a login screen
[12:05] <sidny4> I prefer the alternative CD :D
[12:05] <kelbizzle> :-(
[12:06] <lab> I work where we have a lab, and have installed ubuntu on a machine in there, so I'm golden in terms of a trial, it's just I *really* know the ins and outs of windows (I was a desktop tech for a long time).  I know linux is the way to go and has enormous potential, but I'm just a total newb and hate to start at square one again.
[12:06] <lnostdal> i've been playing WoW on plain wine under Ubuntu for about a year .. i'm now lvl56 -- hooray :)
[12:06] <LjL> there is no such thing as an alternative CD. there is the Alternate CD, though
[12:06] <charle97> kelbizzle, what cd did you use to install?
[12:06] <sidny4> kelbizzle, try logging in with your username/pw and then type startx
[12:06] <Zoohouse> Doesn't the vmplayer connect to the vmserver?
[12:06] <kelbizzle> 5.10
[12:06] <LjL> Zoohouse: no
[12:06] <Zoohouse> oh ok
[12:06] <charle97> kelbizzle, try startx
[12:06] <Zoohouse> :)
[12:06] <kelbizzle> I get a error
[12:06] <kelbizzle> a big one
[12:06] <lupine_85> that won't help
[12:06] <LjL> Zoohouse: they're two different products. the player doesn't allow you to create new virtual machines, but only to run them if you have them already. you can use sites such as http://www.easyvmx.com to create vms
[12:06] <ZirJoker> how do i change the  permissions to 777 in a whole partition?
[12:07] <azureal> lab, it's a big step, but you could always dualboot
[12:07] <ZirJoker> !permissions
[12:07] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:07] <maccam94> did loonix ever get set up or did he leave/get kicked?
[12:07] <LjL> maccam94: left
[12:07] <Noobie> hi
[12:07] <stojance_> CAN SOMEONE HELP
[12:07] <maccam94> ah
[12:07] <kelbizzle> let me see if I can sort trough the mess
[12:07] <ZirJoker> how do i change the  permissions to 777 in a whole partition?
[12:07] <lupine_85> X failed to start becuse of an error somewhere - check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out why
[12:07] <igypsy> lol
[12:07] <lupine_85> then fix it :D
[12:07] <LjL> !caps | stojance_
[12:07] <ubotu> stojance_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:07] <maccam94> stojance_: ...what's up?
[12:07] <Zoohouse> LjL: Sorry, what do you mean by  "create new virtual machines"
[12:07] <stojance_> I have trouble installing gnome dock, gnome-dock.org
[12:07] <charle97> kelbizzle, wait a day or two, download 6.10 and install it
[12:07] <lupine_85> !gnome-dock
[12:07] <ubotu> gnome-dock is a MacOS X -like dock for the gnome desktop, see www.gnome-dock.org
[12:08] <kelbizzle> fatal server error: caught signal 4. server aborting
[12:08] <lupine_85> !info gnome-dock dapper
[12:08] <Em3rald> I am having trouble getting my dapper CD to be used by apt.
[12:08] <ubotu> Package gnome-dock does not exist in dapper
[12:08] <Noobie> the kernel that comes with dapper is already patched with skas mode?
[12:08] <KristeK> Hi! Who can help me about some mounts?
[12:08] <lab> I swear though I'm going to have such a hard time detaching myself from the whole C: concept  :)
[12:08] <stojance_> Thank you, I allready know that
[12:08] <azureal> LjL, what's the "aptitude reference manual" ?  the man pages say to look at it =/
[12:08] <LjL> Zoohouse, VMWare needs some files, in order to create an emulated environment: a configuration file, a virtual HD file, and some more.
[12:08] <lupine_85> lab: create a symlink known as /c:/ ;)
[12:08] <charle97> lab, read linux books .... that's what i did
[12:08] <kelbizzle> I tried the desktop cd that lept freezing at 26 percent
[12:08] <lupine_85> !alternate
[12:08] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[12:08] <lupine_85> use that instead
[12:08] <anto9us> lab, you should check out #ubuntu-offtopic for more general discussion :)
[12:09] <KristeK>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:09] <KristeK> ./dev/hdb1               1        7298    58615703+  ee  EFI GPT
[12:09] <LjL> azureal: try http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/
[12:09] <KristeK> What is this System EFI GPT?
[12:09] <stojance_> !gnome dock
[12:09] <Em3rald> gah ... this is so hopeless.  Well ... I'm freaking done folks.  webserver's down.  gotta go.  I hate being this ticked off.
[12:09] <stojance_> !gnome-dock
[12:09] <ubotu> gnome-dock is a MacOS X -like dock for the gnome desktop, see www.gnome-dock.org
[12:09] <Zoohouse> !Xen | Zoohouse
[12:09] <ubotu> Zoohouse: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[12:10] <kelbizzle> could it be my graphics card in my laptop?
[12:10] <kelbizzle> I see radeon among the details somewhere
[12:10] <stojance_> I have really hard time installing it. I did all that was said in the site and IT DOESN'T WORK!
[12:10] <LjL> !msg the bot | Zoohouse
[12:10] <ubotu> Zoohouse: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[12:10] <KristeK> I've a second disk with 2 partitions formated has NTFS and need to mount it on ubuntu server
[12:10] <Zoohouse> sorry :)
[12:11] <docmur> question what is a good Text to Speech software for gnome
[12:11] <Dr_willis> KristeK,  thats doable.  for a user to access it you may need to alter the umask, or other options.
[12:11] <Pir> Hi. Can someone help me to config my graphics card (onboard SIS 661FX) in ubuntu dapper?
[12:11] <zapzap> anto9us: some news ?
[12:11] <Dr_willis> KristeK,  example from my fstab /dev/hda1 /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[12:11] <LjL> stojance_, be patient and perhaps somebody will be able to help you. i'm afraid most people here however aren't venturing into compiling experimental software from souce
[12:11] <anto9us> zapzap, did you try the gutenprint driver?
[12:12] <maccam94> stojance_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200987
[12:12] <lupine_85> stojance_: cat INSTALL
[12:12] <kelbizzle> can someone tell me how I check the log
[12:12] <lupine_85> follow the steps, ask if you have any specific questions
[12:12] <tim__> less /var/log/something
[12:12] <stojance_> I allready saw that conversation, forum!
[12:13] <stojance_> cat install doesn't work eather
[12:13] <charle97> kristek, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481
[12:14] <tim__> It's kinda busy in here. Was hoping someone might be able to point me in some directions on getting mixing working on my machine. Anyone good in that field?
[12:14] <Zoohouse> LjL: whats simplar to run: VMWare with easyvm or xen?
[12:14] <zapzap> anto9us: i run my priter with it and it s realy slown as i ve said !
[12:14] <anto9us> zapzap, you said you used gimp-print
[12:15] <taslavar> I'm trying to boot my iBook G3 from a USB thumb drive, but at "Loading second stage bootstrap" it just shows the flashing no-OS icon instead of loading yaboot. Is there anyone here who has managed to get this working who could help me? My yaboot.conf and generated ofboot.b are here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/oMWHir37.html
[12:15] <kelbizzle> ok I have the log up of why x didnt star t up
[12:15] <charle97> tim_, http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=9135575
[12:15] <zapzap> anto9us: yes sorry iwould say gutenprint not gimpprint
[12:16] <anto9us> zapzap, so you've tried both?
[12:16] <tim__> ty charle97
[12:16] <judgen> is there any good nes emulator or a good gui for fceu for linux?
[12:16] <zapzap> anto9us: yes on MDK, gimpprint
[12:16] <soundray> taslavar: I tried this once with a Mac mini and failed. I heard by rumour that it is possible to install on a Firewire device, but not on USB.
[12:16] <kelbizzle> could my video card be the reason x isnt starting up?
[12:16] <KristeK> 2nd disk, with 2 ntfs partition, how to mount the 2 partitions on ubuntu server?
[12:17] <engla> edgy draws close? what's the forecast on release date?
[12:17] <zapzap> anto9us: but is gutenprint the new name of gimprint ?
[12:17] <LjL> Zoohouse: vmware-player imho
[12:17] <chaoticg33k> I'm trying to save my prefrences on the wiki, but it  will not go. It just sits there with the cursor saying its loading, however if I fire up another tab I can navigate still. I've tried going around and seeing if the wiki is messed up but the prefrences page is the only place where it will not do anything. All I did was click save to save my prefrences.
[12:17] <soundray> engla: still tomorrow
[12:18] <LjL> zapzap: yes
[12:18] <anto9us> zapzap, no, I don't think so
[12:18] <engla> great
[12:18] <zapzap> anto9us: ups !
[12:18] <engla> sooner than I expect. and I that have so much other things to do
[12:18] <KristeK> mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/windows
[12:18] <LjL> anto9us: http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/
[12:18] <Mad_Mac> hi
[12:18] <taslavar> soundray: OS X can't be booted from USB, but the Debian website has instructions for booting from a USB drive so..
[12:18] <KristeK> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1
[12:18] <Mad_Mac> when will be released edgy eft?
[12:18] <LjL> Mad_Mac: october 26
[12:19] <chaoticg33k> really
[12:19] <Mad_Mac> date and hour, at which hour?
[12:19] <LjL> !ef | Mad_Mac
[12:19] <ubotu> Mad_Mac: We do not yet know at precisely what time of the day Edgy will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[12:19] <soundray> taslavar: are those instructions for i386 or PPC?
[12:19] <anto9us> zapzap, I'm in error, sorry
[12:19] <zapzap> LjL: thanx
[12:19] <taslavar> soundray: ppc
[12:19] <zapzap> anto9us: no pb
[12:19] <Mad_Mac> thanks
[12:19] <ZombiekE> I try to install something with aptitude but I get "302 moved temporarily" and an IP address, what can I do? I don't think it has really been moved... otherwise, how could I install this on my own?
[12:19] <xabaras> anyone can help me for activate acceleration 3d in chipset Intel Graphics 2
[12:20] <taslavar> soundray: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch04s04.html.en
[12:20] <Mad_Mac> i go to sleep
[12:20] <soundray> taslavar: like I said, I stopped pursuing that option.
[12:20] <zapzap> anto9us: but i really want to do my printing more quick
[12:20] <Whatsisname> ahh back in the channel
[12:20] <xabaras> anyone can help me for activate acceleration 3d in chipset Intel Graphics 2
[12:20] <Whatsisname> hey I have a question for anyone that is familiar with the usual suite of text filters
[12:21] <Whatsisname> for a script
[12:21] <taslavar> soundray: alright, i hope i'll have better luck :X
[12:21] <KristeK> Help mounting 2nd windows disk drive!!!
[12:21] <anto9us> zapzap, see what other driver options are available in the drop down and try them
[12:21] <compilerwriter> Can anyone help me get a Palm Zire 21 to sync with ubuntu?
[12:21] <kitche> Whatisname what are you doign exactly
[12:21] <zapzap> anto9us: is my pentium 500 too slown to construct pages during printing ?
[12:21] <javiolo> the wifi manager that comes with ubuntu supports wpa ?
[12:22] <zapzap> anto9us: no other driver !
[12:22] <anto9us> zapzap, no, memory could be an issue but not processor speed
[12:22] <compilerwriter> I tried j-pilot but had issues I didn't know how to fix.
[12:22] <Whatsisname> kitche, I have an application that outputs a bunch of tabular data, in human readable format, aka 12K instead of 125849 or whatever
[12:22] <zapzap> anto9us: 512 mo
[12:22] <Whatsisname> I'd like a nice filter I could pipe it all into that will reverse the human readable format, so I get 125499 instead of 12k and so forth
[12:22] <zapzap> anto9us: i think a buffer problem !
[12:23] <LjL> zapzap: the english abbreviation is "Mb"
[12:23] <Bearcat1> I'm running Xchat, and cannot figure out how to erase old chatlogs.  any help is appreciated
[12:23] <DShepherd> wow 949 already.. my gosh!
[12:23] <kitche> Whatisname: hmm not sure how to do that exactly
[12:23] <Whatsisname> Bearcat1, they are all just put in a big file, just delete them or trim them down or something
[12:23] <Shamurai> hello
[12:23] <maelvino> hi
[12:23] <sith-lord> hi
[12:23] <zapzap> LjL: my saver ;)
[12:23] <compilerwriter> Can anyone help me with the palm zire 21?
[12:23] <mandelum> hello
[12:24] <Whatsisname> I wish there was an option to disable or enable human readable format but there doesnt appear to be one
[12:24] <Bearcat1> Whatsisname, ty, but how do I do that?
[12:24] <sith-lord> unsure
[12:24] <KristeK> need help mounting 2nd windows disk drive!!!
[12:24] <maelvino> I'll think about it
[12:24] <Shamurai> ??
[12:24] <Bearcat1> I know they are all in one big file
[12:24] <mandelum> could somebody help me please
[12:24] <Whatsisname> do you know how many lines you want to trim out?
[12:24] <Whatsisname> you could just do
[12:24] <zapzap> LjL: an id to resurb my pb ?
[12:24] <soundray> mandelum: no, you have to ask a support question first.
[12:24] <Bearcat1> Whatsisname, yes, all of them
[12:25] <Zoohouse> How do I unlock the packaging sys?
[12:25] <Bearcat1> or most of them
[12:25] <Whatsisname> if you want to blast them, just delete the log file
[12:25] <Whatsisname> xchat will create a new one
[12:25] <dabaR> tsoler: sudo aptitude install libxml2-dev libxslt1-dev libwxgtk2.6-dev libwxgtk2.6-0 libxslt1.1 libxml2
[12:25] <mandelum> I am trying to install edgy eft on an older laptop but my cd does not seem to work and I seem to have a boot partition that is too small for an iso file
[12:25] <Bearcat1> I can't seem to find the delete
[12:25] <Whatsisname> if you want to selectively delete blocks, I can give you a sed command that can do it
[12:25] <LjL> zapzap: sorry?
[12:25] <Whatsisname> Bearcat1, rm ~/.xchat/whereverthelogis
[12:25] <Bearcat1> I can I suppose highlight them and try my delete button
[12:25] <Whatsisname> the log files are named
[12:25] <zapzap> LjL: can u help me ?
[12:26] <mandelum> how should I proceed to get grub to boot an iso from the home directory for example
[12:26] <Whatsisname> along the lines of server-#channel or something
[12:26] <gnomefreak> mandelum: please ask edgy related questions in #ubuntu+1
[12:26] <anders9034> hello i just instlled ubuntu using server command, and i can't log in as root because i don't have the password. i was never asked to type in the root password either :-(
[12:26] <Whatsisname> Bearcat1, for example
[12:26] <Whatsisname> if I was to delete my #ubuntu log
[12:26] <Whatsisname> I would execute the command
[12:26] <LjL> zapzap: don't think, i print very little.
[12:26] <soundray> anders9034: log in with your username then, and use sudo for system tasks.
[12:27] <charle97> anders, did you enter a password at any point of install?
[12:27] <Whatsisname> rm ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/Ubuntuserver-#ubuntu.log
[12:27] <judgen> where is the kernel headers that is not sed located?
[12:27] <Whatsisname> change the filename that fits your configuration
[12:27] <judgen> where is the kernel headers that is not used located?
[12:27] <Bearcat1> Whatsisname, ty, from the 'terminal'  is there an equivalant to the DOS  dotprompt?
[12:27] <DShepherd> !tell anders9034 about root
[12:27] <anders9034> soundray: no way am i going to do that, that means i would have to use sudo for everything
[12:27] <soundray> compilerwriter: to have any chance to get help, you have to describe your problem.
[12:27] <Whatsisname> Bearcat1, what?
[12:28] <zapzap> anto9us: thanx for your help and see you ...
[12:28] <LjL> anders9034: and the problem is?
[12:28] <Bearcat1> let me try for a while, Whatsisname, I may be back, ty
[12:28] <soundray> anders9034: suit yourself, but don't expect me to help, then.
[12:28] <anto9us> zapzap, np, sorry I couldn't help solve it for you
[12:28] <Whatsisname> ok I guess
[12:28] <DShepherd> anders9034:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo . Check out that page
[12:28] <kitche> anders9034: put a password on your root then it will enable root
[12:28] <tsoler> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28323/
[12:28] <compilerwriter> soundray I need to be told which software to get my zire 21 synced with ubuntu.
[12:28] <anders9034> LjL: what the hell, i cant log in as root with ubuntu, you must be joking :-)
[12:29] <Whatsisname> anders9034, very few of your tasks require systemwide changes
[12:29] <compilerwriter> soundray I may need configuration help.
[12:29] <tim__> anders sudo su
[12:29] <soundray> kitche: don't give that advice, please. Ubuntu uses sudo for a reason.
[12:29] <Whatsisname> if you need sudo all the time for day to day activites, you are doing something wrong
[12:29] <tim__> then make a root password
[12:29] <tim__> then you can log in
[12:29] <tim__> using su
[12:29] <anders9034> soundray: shut up
[12:29] <LjL> anders9034: no, i'm not. what do you feel that you might not be able to do, or might be able to do with more difficultty, with this kind of setup?
[12:29] <soundray> compilerwriter: I don't know, but I've seen a message about syncing with Palms somewhere. Search the forums?
[12:30] <Whatsisname> if you need root level for something because it is written retarded
[12:30] <soundray> Thanks gnomefreak ;)
[12:30] <bdragonmsl> Anyone know of a good site that makes hp printer drivers??
[12:30] <leakd>  n8
[12:30] <Whatsisname> then perhaps you can use setuid
[12:30] <gnomefreak> hello is everyone missing the point that in your system tools menu there is a root terminal?
[12:30] <gnomefreak> use it
[12:30] <KristeK> need help mounting 2nd windows disk drive!!!
[12:30] <Pluk> bdragonmsl, http://www.linuxprinting.org/
[12:31] <Whatsisname> gnomefreak, I see no such thing
[12:31] <Whatsisname> oh well, sudo -i works
[12:31] <gnomefreak> Whatsisname: use alacarte menu editor adn add it
[12:31] <Whatsisname> meh, no need
[12:31] <gnomefreak> its ther eits just hidden
[12:31] <anders9034> sorry about that
[12:32] <mangojambo> hi people ... what time will be the ubuntu6.10 ready for download?
[12:32] <preaction> sudo su - # also works nice
[12:32] <SpaceFrog> does anyone know how to turn off the middle mouse button's paste function? I keep accidentally pressing my scrollwheel down at work, and it's pasting my clipboard contents in every text field.
[12:32] <Whatsisname> gnomefreak, are you part of the gnome project or do you just dig it
[12:32] <JosefK> anyone know what port PostgreSQL listens for connections on by default?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> mangojambo: in the next 24 hours maybe
[12:32] <anders9034> ok, so i should use sudo, but even so i need to have the root passord...
[12:32] <preaction> SpaceFrog, that's been an X feature for a while, dunno
[12:32] <hubuntu_______> hey guys... when is edgy eft coming out officially, anyone?
[12:32] <LjL> anders9034: why?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> anders9034: no usdo uses usr password
[12:32] <mangojambo> gnomefreak: 24 from where? ;)
[12:32] <kitche> anders9034: nope it's your user password
[12:32] <LjL> !ef | hubuntu_______
[12:32] <Whatsisname> hubuntu_______, tomorrow, supposedly
[12:32] <ubotu> hubuntu_______: Edgy will be released on October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[12:32] <joona> JosefK: grep Postg /etc/services
[12:32] <soundray> anders9034: we got off to a bad start here. Let's try better.
[12:32] <gnomefreak> hubuntu_______: 24 hour or so
[12:32] <anders9034> gnomefreak: oh i see, nver really rtied sudo before
[12:33] <gnomefreak> mangojambo: it doesnt matter 24 hours for you is same as for anyone else
[12:33] <hubuntu_______> in oslo is the 26th already :)
[12:33] <JosefK> joona: unfortunately, it's not installed yet (scripting my edgy setup), but I'll give it a try (it's not inetd controlled, though?)
[12:33] <preaction> SpaceFrog, I believe in your Xorg.conf file you can specify a two-button mouse, but google is your friend on that one
[12:33] <joona> ah
[12:33] <sidny4> nope, it's only 23 hours for me :P
[12:33] <kitche> anders9034: it has it's pros and it's cons but how ubuntu is set up the cons are almost non-existant
[12:33] <joona> JosefK: nope, its not
[12:33] <LjL> anders9034: then perhaps you could try and find out what it can do for you, rather than calling it retarded and tell people to shut up. you can do with sudo anything that you can do by logging into a root account, and just as easily.
[12:33] <gnomefreak> hubuntu_______: forget the date since everyone is on different time zones. the date 26th is an about date
[12:33] <joona> JosefK: but /etc/services lists ports for all known services
[12:33] <choosedeath> hello
[12:33] <anders9034> kitche: i've heard lots of good things about ubuntu :-)
[12:33] <JosefK> ah, cheers joona
[12:34] <Whatsisname> kitche, I think I'll just do it ghetto style and just have a regex that replaces k with three 0's and m with 6 0's and so forth :)
[12:34] <mangojambo> gnomefreak: no ..  the 24hours from London are different the here in Brazil, 3 hours later here...
[12:34] <choosedeath> is anyone can help me about a grpic card problem in my dapper?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> mangojambo: 24 hours is 24 hours
[12:34] <phaedrus44> where can i find the ndiswrapper 1.8 .deb for ubuntu ?
[12:34] <evil_monkey> hello, im running an upgrade (dapper to edgy through update-manager), download has just finished, it's now installing and upgrading packages.. but im getting a lot of messages like "setting locale failed, falling back to default C locale".. should i be worried?
[12:34] <soundray> choosedeath: that depends on the problem. Pls describe
[12:34] <anders9034> soundray: sorry for yelling, i just got frustrated :-) shouldn't let it out on you
[12:34] <gnomefreak> mangojambo: your days are not 21hours long
[12:34] <hubuntu_______> i checked http://no-name-yet.com/meta-release which suggetsed that it may come around/before GMT 9.00... who knows
[12:34] <elo23> #quiz
[12:34] <soundray> anders9034: very true ;)
[12:34] <gnomefreak> hubuntu_______: in 24 hours
[12:34] <bdragonmsl> Pluk, thanks for the site.  I'll have to bookmark it.  They don't have my printer yet.
[12:34] <preaction> evil_monkey, unless you don't speak english, no
[12:35] <eck0> hey
[12:35] <Siph0n> does it matter that im using WEP for my router? cause i still cant get my DWL-G630 card to work...
[12:35] <eck0> my mic will not work on TS and idea why?
[12:35] <anders9034> su
[12:35] <KristeK> need help mounting 2nd windows disk drive!!!
[12:35] <evil_monkey> preaction: but why is it failing anyway? locale that fails is en_AU.UTF-8
[12:35] <eck0> su doesnt work anders
[12:35] <kitche> eck0: somethign else could be using your sound
[12:35] <Pluk> bdragonmsl, ah thats too bad, but 99% sure if they dont list your printer as supported there will prolly be no linux support at all
[12:35] <eck0> you need to use sudo
[12:35] <hubuntu_______> phaedrus relax.. let it finish and restart. normally things go fine.
[12:35] <KristeK> Am I talking to myself here?
[12:35] <anders9034> eck0: lol i typed on the wrong keyboard!
[12:35] <choosedeath> my pb?  have a integrated graphic chip in my motherboard (sis661) but i don't have the 3D accelleration
[12:36] <LjL> KristeK: are you?
[12:36] <mangojambo> gnomefreak: ok... Einstein die with his filosofy: relativity ... lolol ... just kidding ...
[12:36] <KristeK> aparentely!
[12:36] <eck0> you need the linux drivers
[12:36] <Em3rald> Okay folks ... this is my last effort to rescue my webserver.  Please help me if you can.
[12:36] <preaction> KristeK, use the System > Administration > Disks dialog?
[12:36] <KristeK> LjL: Can you help?
[12:36] <choosedeath> yes, but i don't find the linux driver...
[12:36] <KristeK> ubuntu Server!!!!
[12:36] <KristeK> no Gnome!
[12:36] <preaction> KristeK, man mount
[12:36] <rc-1> Em3rald: shoot, im no expert but ill try
[12:36] <choosedeath> 'n I think there is no driver for it...
[12:36] <charle97> kristek, http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=9135514
[12:36] <Em3rald> I uninstalled all KDE things from it, installed gnome, and now my network card doesn't work.
[12:36] <LjL> KristeK: and the problem is?
[12:36] <preaction> if you're running a server edition, you need to know how to do this
[12:37] <rc-1> Em3rald: did you try to reinstall your network card drivers?
[12:37] <KristeK> the problem is the 2nd disk has 2 partitions!
[12:37] <KristeK> ntfs partitions
[12:37] <LjL> KristeK: ...and?
[12:37] <Em3rald> rc-1:  having difficulty figuring out how to actually do that.
[12:37] <KristeK> and when I fdisk -l
[12:37] <soundray> choosedeath: there is a package xserver-xorg-driver-sis -- not sure if it has accelerated 3D
[12:37] <anders9034> guys how does it work in ubuntu when i want to use services and service command is not found?
[12:37] <preaction> KristeK, so there should be two /dev/hdL# nodes
[12:38] <KristeK> nope! Just one!
[12:38] <preaction> KristeK, where is it on your IDE cables? First cable? Second cable? Master/Slave?
[12:38] <anders9034> i know i chose the skinny install but hey
[12:38] <KristeK> . /dev/hdb1
[12:38] <rc-1> Em3rald: k, so what network card do you have?
[12:38] <kitche> anders9034: the services are done though inetd
[12:38] <KristeK> Slave!
[12:38] <KristeK> First Cable!
[12:38] <choosedeath> i have installer this package...and configure xorg server
[12:38] <anders9034> kitche: ok thanks
[12:38] <Em3rald> rc-1 it's an intel (machine is just rebooting now)
[12:38] <FlimFlamMan> is it possible to install a second instance of python2.4 in another directory, and still use apt-get upgrade to upgrade it - separately from the regular copy of python?
[12:38] <KristeK> fdisk show has system EFI GPT
[12:38] <kitche> anders9034: look at /etc/inetd.conf to see how it looks
[12:38] <Bearcat> ok, I'm pretty ignorant.  the only way I can even find my Xchat logs are to start a chat and go to preferences, and Open Data Folder.  this obviously isn't the way to delete a chatlog
[12:39] <preaction> KristeK, please use the enter key less often. /dev/hdb has only 1 partition that it recognizes, but booting windows shows two partitions?
[12:39] <bdragonmsl> Pluk, well, hopefully they will it's just a brand new wally-world printer.
[12:39] <KristeK> Yep!
[12:39] <gigiven> ola
[12:39] <hubuntu_______> Em3rald... you meant trying gnome alone?
[12:39] <choosedeath> do U know where there is a driver for this card?
[12:39] <rc-1> Em3rald: look under devices when its up, and see if you can get the model number, then google "<model number> driver ubuntu install" or something like that
[12:40] <gigiven> i'm looking for a ftp clint for debian
[12:40] <Em3rald> rc-1 okay thanks
[12:40] <Em3rald> hubuntu__________ I'm not sure what you mean.
[12:40] <woekele> release day today :D
[12:40] <woekele> yaaay
[12:40] <gigiven> con you help me?
[12:40] <elo23> filezilla
[12:40] <rc-1> Em3rald: np :) gl
[12:40] <hubuntu_______> neither am I.. just follow rc-1's advice :)
[12:40] <gigiven> filezilla?
[12:40] <preaction> KristeK, and fdisk /dev/hdb with the "p" command shows only one partition?
[12:40] <Em3rald> rc-1:  I have no Devices manager in my administration menu
[12:41] <Bearcat> can someone walk me through erasing a chatlog in Xchat?
[12:41] <elo23> jep
[12:41] <anders9034> kitche: there's no such file  /etc/inetd.conf
[12:41] <soundray> choosedeath: can you run glxgears?
[12:41] <gigiven> thks elo23
[12:41] <woekele> Bearcat, cant you just go to ~/.xchat and then find the log and delete it?
[12:41] <elo23> np
[12:41] <preaction> Bearcat, Settings > Preferences > Logging > Open data Folder > delete what you want
[12:41] <Em3rald> nm I used lspci
[12:42] <kitche> !inetd > anders9034
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <Bearcat> I can't seem to get to xchat without actually booting the program, woekele
[12:42] <rc-1> Em3rald: oh, sorry get someone else to give you the command line for devices, sorry dont know alot about non-gui ubuntu :(
[12:42] <choosedeath> yes... but it don't give me some valor...but the thing don't turn
[12:42] <preaction> Bearcat, cd ~/.xchat2
[12:42] <cotito> hola viteh
[12:42] <woekele> Bearcat, you can go to your homedir, show hidden files.
[12:42] <rc-1> Em3rald: there should be a bash command to give you a list of installed devices tho
[12:42] <Bearcat> preaction, from where to I type cd?
[12:42] <woekele> and there should be an .xchat folder
[12:42] <woekele> from the terminal Bearcat :)
[12:42] <preaction> Bearcat, that's a terminal command, but woekele told you how to do it from nautilus
[12:43] <kitche> anders9034: see if it's installed though
[12:43] <Bearcat> ah ty woekele ty ty  I do know the blackscreen line commands
[12:43] <jenocin> anyone know how to check your version of ubuntu? uname -a don't show it :-\
[12:43] <Em3rald> rc-1 got the card, but man you should see the google list for it ugh ...
[12:43] <Em3rald> intel 82801BA
[12:43] <Bearcat> I can probably do it from terminal
[12:43] <kitche> Bearcat: are you the one I know by chance?
[12:43] <dabaR> there are no real bear cats.
[12:43] <Bearcat> kitche, dunno, where might you have seen me?
[12:43] <anders9034> kitche: no it's not
[12:43] <Bearcat> there are real bearcats, they are an asian mammal
[12:44] <soundray> jenocin: cat /etc/lsb-release
[12:44] <Bearcat> google it
[12:44] <jenocin> soundray thanks
[12:44] <choosedeath> so, is anyone can help me?
[12:44] <kitche> Bearcat: #sourcemage maybe?
[12:44] <kitche> anders9034: ok you have to isntall it most likely then
[12:44] <jenocin> soundray: yech... breezy badger still...
[12:44] <Bearcat> nope kitche must have been a different Bearcat
[12:44] <soundray> choosedeath: try glxgears -printfps
[12:45] <h3htimo> hey guys could someone help me with mapping a network drive?? im at college right now and i have it mapped in windows i just dont know how in linux!??! Thanks!
[12:45] <Bearcat> tc all ty for the help
[12:45] <rellis> gentoo
[12:45] <woekele> h3htimo, I think you should handle it like mounting a harddrive
[12:45] <anders9034> kitche: i see, what is the package manager called?
[12:46] <choosedeath> ok, i test that now
[12:46] <h3htimo> woekele, yeah, thats what i thot, im just not sure how
[12:46] <choosedeath> it's about 70
[12:46] <choosedeath> fps
[12:46] <choosedeath> :s
[12:46] <preaction> h3htimo, depends on what type of network drive
[12:46] <jenocin> h3htimo: trying to mount in the console?
[12:46] <anders9034> kitche: apt-get?
[12:46] <Em3rald> @$#$@%! ... thats it.  I'm freaking wiping the whole (#(*&$ thing and starting from scratch.  What a severe SEVERE SEVERE FREAKING pain in the neck.  OOoooooohhhh I could break something.
[12:46] <h3htimo> jenocin, doesnt matter
[12:46] <Em3rald> bye
[12:46] <jenocin> h3htimo: smb share?
[12:46] <preaction> h3htimo, i'm assuming since you can map it in windows, it's a smb share
[12:46] <compilerwriter> Can anyone talk me through getting a palm zire 21 to sync with ubuntu?
[12:46] <h3htimo> preaction, i dunno, it shows u how to manually do it in windows
[12:47] <preaction> h3htimo, "it"?
[12:47] <jenocin> h3htimo: k i Got ya
[12:47] <h3htimo> i guess
[12:47] <Ragga> espaoll
[12:47] <dabaR> !es
[12:47] <soundray> compilerwriter: what has your forum search turned up?
[12:47] <Ragga> espaol
[12:47] <jenocin> h3htimo: use smbmount
[12:47] <choosedeath> and i only know that 70 is very low
[12:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:47] <kitche> anders9034: or symnaptic
[12:47] <Eystein> yop
[12:47] <h3htimo> preaction, there are steps on the site for us to manually mount it in windows
[12:47] <jenocin> h3htimo: or mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test
[12:47] <cartufer> compilerwrite, i think ubuntu live cd comes with a pilot sync tool
[12:47] <preaction> choosedeath, uh... 60fps is indistinguishable from reality
[12:47] <jenocin> h3htimo: unless u want a fstab mount... thats a bit different
[12:48] <h3htimo> jenocin, http://raphael.walsh.edu/p_drive/manual/index.html
[12:48] <preaction> choosedeath, hell, your monitor refresh rate is probably lower than 70Hz (or FPS, whichever you prefer)
[12:48] <h3htimo> can you get to that link??
[12:48] <preaction> h3htimo, cannot find server
[12:48] <jenocin> h3htimo: ditto
[12:48] <preaction> h3htimo, firewall issue, they don't want us looking at it
[12:48] <choosedeath> my monitor is in 85Hz
[12:48] <h3htimo> aight
[12:49] <jenocin> hate it when they firewall good porn
[12:49] <h3htimo> let me put the steps in pastebin just a sec
[12:49] <jenocin> :-P
[12:49] <jenocin> h3htimo: pastebin.jenotek.com
[12:49] <preaction> h3htimo, does it have a sort of //COMPUTERNAME/folder look to it?
[12:49] <h3htimo> preaction, yeah
[12:49] <jenocin> h3htimo: think u gotta swap the slashes or double em up though
[12:49] <choosedeath> do U know a drivers for the sis661?
[12:49] <jenocin> h3htimo: not sure in ubuntu atm... been jumping distros alot
[12:50] <rc-1> choosedeath: i think ubun defaults to lowest refresh lol
[12:50] <compilerwriter> Not much.
[12:50] <preaction> choosedeath, that's the motherboard, not the gfx chip. find out who made the onboard gfx chip on that mobo. and onboard chips are not known for popping 100 fps
[12:50] <h3htimo> jenocin, just a sec
[12:50] <jenocin> h3htimo: as in \\\\testserver\\testshare
[12:50] <compilerwriter> I have found the zire 31.
[12:50] <preaction> jenocin, no
[12:50] <compilerwriter> Which forum are you talking about anyway?
[12:50] <jenocin> h3htimo: what error u getting
[12:50] <preaction> h3htimo, Main Menu > Places > Connect to Server... should have Windows Share on it
[12:51] <scott_> anyone know of a font that uses a backwards 3 with a little line above and below it for the & character?
[12:51] <soundray> compilerwriter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77387 ?
[12:51] <jenocin> preaction: not if he didn't install smb et
[12:51] <h3htimo> im posting the pastebin link
[12:51] <preaction> jenocin, that's not in the default ubuntu install?
[12:51] <choosedeath> mmm... i give U the ref of the pc... acer SA80
[12:51] <rjb> hi, anyone else struggling with broadcom wireless on edgy?
[12:51] <jenocin> preaction: dunno, like I said I do a bunch of diff distros, just throwing stuff out there
[12:52] <preaction> choosedeath, irrelevant. google is your friend.
[12:52] <tapoxi> Anyone know when Edgy will be released?
[12:52] <Agrajag> if you just need access to the share from your file manager, and you're using GNOME, you don't need smbfs
[12:52] <preaction> tapoxi, within a day
[12:52] <LjL> !ef | tapoxi
[12:52] <ubotu> tapoxi: Edgy will be released on October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[12:52] <Agrajag> you can mount it in GNOME's VFS through nautilus's connect to server... dialog
[12:52] <choosedeath> yes...in the acer' drivers page, there is not drivers for linux
[12:52] <preaction> Agrajag, that's what i'm trying to explain :p
[12:52] <tapoxi> thanks. just curious.
[12:54] <compilerwriter> Now how about the zire21
[12:54] <soundray> choosedeath: is this a laptop?
[12:54] <gigiven> i'm looking for a ftp client ubuntu
[12:54] <h3htimo> preaction, its loading lol
[12:54] <gigiven> anyone?
[12:54] <choosedeath>  SiS AGP Driver for MS Windows
[12:54] <choosedeath> SiS VGA Driver for MS Windows
[12:55] <choosedeath> not a laptop
[12:55] <DShepherd> gigiven:  sudo aptitude search ftp | grep client
[12:55] <jenocin> choosedeath: get a real chipset :-P
[12:55] <preaction> choosedeath, you're whining about getting 70fps, get over it.
[12:55] <choosedeath> lol jenocin
[12:55] <gigiven> .......
[12:55] <preaction> it's an ONBOARD chipset, you are not going to get phenominal speeds
[12:55] <compilerwriter> That and I am on 6.06 LTS.
[12:56] <jenocin> u should see the unichrome... it horrible
[12:56] <preaction> where's ubuntu's boot log?
[12:56] <jenocin> preaction: dmesg ?
[12:56] <soundray> choosedeath: the best solution might be to go and buy a cheap graphics card with an NVidia chipset.
[12:56] <preaction> dmesg has firewall messages and has gone past the point of allowing me to see the boot :'(
[12:56] <DShepherd> gigiven: try gftp
[12:56] <choosedeath> yes, i think so too soundray... but no money :s
[12:56] <jenocin> preaction: /var/log/messages
[12:57] <Agrajag> choosedeath: from what I've heard about the SiS drivers, you're lucky to be seeing anything at all
[12:57] <gigiven> thks
[12:57] <preaction> jenocin, thanks
[12:57] <preaction> guess it's just been a while since my last boot
[12:57] <choosedeath> ok agrajag
[12:58] <choosedeath> so, no solution... :s
[12:58] <soundray> compilerwriter: you've got to take to action and try it out, adapting what you find to your special situation as you go along. If you hit a snag, ask again. But nobody is going to hold your hand through the entire process.
[12:58] <soundray> compilerwriter: here's another useful link: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html
[12:58] <jenocin> argh... any easy way to run an upgrade from breezy --> current?
[12:58] <cartufer> doesn't ubuntu come with a palm sync app?
[12:59] <LjL> !upgrade > jenocin
[12:59] <jenocin> LjL:I heard it wasn't too reliable to do an upgrade, at least a couple months back when I asked... has it gotten betteR?
[12:59] <chand> I got unbuntu 6.06
[12:59] <LjL> jenocin: i don't know.
[12:59] <RaV|Strangler> can someone tell me. what the alternative cd is for?
[01:00] <chand> WPA-PSK not working
[01:00] <soundray> jenocin: upgrading to dapper is rock solid.
[01:00] <preaction> jenocin, my upgrade to dapper was ... okay...
[01:00] <LjL> !alternate | RaV|Strangler
[01:00] <ubotu> RaV|Strangler: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[01:00] <Agrajag> I've done upgrades all the way back to warty -> hoary
[01:00] <soundray> jenocin: I would still suggest you backup your data and do a fresh edgy install.
[01:00] <Agrajag> never had a problem
[01:00] <chand> How to get wireless working. ALso internet does not conenct
[01:00] <jenocin> k... Its a production machine... not really a chance to take it out for a long period of time to reconfig everything
[01:00] <soundray> !wireless | chand
[01:00] <ubotu> chand: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:00] <Agrajag> the secret is not to use backports or other weird repositories
[01:01] <RaV|Strangler> should I do the alternative cd..If the desktop cd keeps freezing at 26%
[01:01] <soundray> RaV|Strangler: sounds like a bad burn or fingerprint to me.
[01:01] <chand> www.google.com resolving to 1.0.0.0
[01:01] <chand> on my new installation
[01:01] <RaV|Strangler> i did like 3 of em
[01:01] <RaV|Strangler> downloaded 3 times also
[01:01] <lupine_85> RaV|Strangler: it's a ubiquity bug
[01:02] <lupine_85> use the alt install cd
[01:02] <cartufer> chand, u got dhcp?
[01:02] <RaV|Strangler> now one more question before I go
[01:02] <chand> yeah
[01:02] <chand> I can ping fine
[01:02] <RaV|Strangler> why would the live cd work and x not startup after it's installed?
[01:02] <cartufer> did it auto dhcp?
[01:02] <chand> it resolves when i ping www.yahoo.com
[01:02] <chand> yeah it did
[01:02] <Siph0n> if the Link light on my wireless card is lit up, but the activity light is not lit.... what does that mean?
[01:03] <chand> i set it to dhcp in netwrking menu
[01:03] <chand> but in friefox it  goes no where
[01:03] <soundray> jenocin: installation will take less than an hour on a reasonably recent machine. If you have a backup of your breezy /etc/, configuration shouldn't take long, either.
[01:03] <Fujitsu> RaV|Strangler: Who knows, but it happens in some strange cases.
[01:03] <rjb> anyone know about ndiswrapper on edgy?
[01:03] <soundray> rjb: ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:03] <RaV|Strangler> alright thanks
[01:03] <Fujitsu> rjb: #ubuntu+1 is the Edgy place (for the next few hours, at least)
[01:03] <RaV|Strangler> I'll take another crack at it.
[01:04] <chand> Also sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[01:04] <rjb> soundray, thx
[01:04] <chand> does not work
[01:04] <Fujitsu> !doesn't work
[01:04] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:04] <soundray> !doesn't work | chand
[01:04] <ubotu> chand: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:04] <soundray> :) like that one
[01:04] <chand> It comes back and says package not found
[01:05] <chand> Looks for package dependicies and then fails with error not found
[01:05] <soundray> chand: have you done a 'sudo apt-get update'?
[01:05] <Noobie> hi everyone
[01:05] <chand> treid from add remove programs says hardware not suitable
[01:05] <chand> no
[01:05] <Noobie> i have a question about the kernel
[01:06] <Fujitsu> Noobie: Go ahead.
[01:06] <chand> i did it now and it is getting packages
[01:06] <printk> Noobie: I have a poptart.  No need to declare what you have.  Just ask your question :)
[01:06] <Noobie> the kernel that comes with dapper is already patched with skas mode?
[01:07] <Fujitsu> Noobie: Is that UserModeLinux stuff?
[01:07] <mae>  so
[01:07] <Noobie> yes
[01:07] <printk> isn't skas mode a 2.4 kernel patch?
[01:08] <Fujitsu> No, SKAS works on 2.6 as well...
[01:08] <triade> my laptop freezes when I do ifdown on a wireless device. anybody ever see the same?
[01:08] <Fujitsu> triade: what type of wireless device?
[01:08] <linnuxxy> i need a full resolution image of the ubuntu CD cover
[01:08] <triade> usb asus with ralink chip
[01:08] <linnuxxy> where can i find it?
[01:09] <Fujitsu> linnuxxy: Why? And this isn't really the best channel to ask/
[01:09] <britt_> has anybody used mythtv? I was wondering how i should install it? howto's? im in #mythyv-users too
[01:09] <Fujitsu> linnuxxy: You may want to try #ubuntu-artwork
[01:09] <jenocin> think i'm just gonna wipe that machine and put redhat on it... ubuntu still feels like a desktop distro to me
[01:09] <ZirJoker> somebudy send me a screenshot of his desktop plz
[01:09] <linnuxxy> thnx Fujistu
[01:10] <ZirJoker> :o
[01:10] <soundray> triade: I have experienced instability with ubuntu's own ralink drivers. Compiling the module from Ralink's own sources helped.
[01:10] <Fujitsu> jenocin: Did you try the, you know, not desktop variant of Ubuntu?
[01:10] <rag> please cam Logitech Quickcam messenger die my ubuntu, why?
[01:10] <Noobie> i hope the kernel comes with the skas patch
[01:10] <Noobie> it 'll help me a lot
[01:10] <jenocin> Fujitsu: thats whats on it
[01:10] <printk> Noobie: if not, you can always compile your own kernel.
[01:10] <rag> do you know, why my cam kill my ubuntu?
[01:10] <Fujitsu> jenocin: What about it makes it feel like a desktop distro?
[01:11] <triade> soundray: ahh, could be ...but same prob with prism2_usb device. Ifdown really freezes system
[01:11] <ZirJoker> somebody send me a screenshot of his desktop plz
[01:11] <sneikas> !grub
[01:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:11] <printk> ZirJoker: of who's?  This is a support channel
[01:11] <lupine_85> anyone who can !op in #ubuntu-meeting fancy kicking a squatter out?
[01:11] <rag> my cam kill my ubuntu, why?
[01:11] <jenocin> Fujitsu: a lot of different things to it, haven't been too fond of apt-get for awhile now either
[01:12] <ZirJoker> your desktop printk
[01:12] <javiolo> !edgy
[01:12] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:12] <britt_> any help with mythtv?
[01:12] <soundray> triade: maybe you have a rogue script in /etc/network/if-down.d/ or if-post-down.d/
[01:12] <jenocin> Fujitsu: not to mention a lot of the big players aren't "supporting" ubuntu installs
[01:12] <Fujitsu> jenocin: How can you prefer yum!?
[01:12] <printk> rag - no we don't know why.  We need secifics
[01:12] <printk> ZirJoker: uhrm why?
[01:12] <rag> printk, please help me
[01:12] <ZirJoker> i wanna customize mine and im noob so i want to see yours and see what can i do
[01:12] <ZirJoker> and then ask about the programs you use
[01:12] <ZirJoker> xD
[01:13] <jenocin> Fujitsu: dependency hell in apt-get, actually I like ports on bsd
[01:13] <triade> soundray: no, using ifconfig device down does the same
[01:13] <soundray> rag: this happens sometimes when you plug a webcam into a USB hub. Connect it directly instead.
[01:13] <printk> ZirJoker: there are websites for that.   gnome-look.org or kde-look.org
[01:13] <ZirJoker> u.u
[01:13] <ZirJoker> ok
[01:13] <Stormx2> Is it out yet?
[01:13] <cartufer> britt_: there was an episode of systm on mythtv, that should hold ur hand nicely through it
[01:13] <rag> printk, just now, i am intall easycam2 and camorama, when i try use my cam on any software (kopete, camorama, etc). my cam kill my ubuntu and i reboot with power button
[01:13] <Noobie> thanks, c ya later
[01:13] <printk> Stormx2: yes it is out.
[01:13] <Stormx2> w00t!
[01:14] <Fujitsu> jenocin: Dependency hell? I have never encountered such things in my 5 years of working with Debian-based systems.
[01:14] <Zambezi> If I extract the serverimage to a USB-stick, isn't it possible to install Ubuntu from that?
[01:14] <rag> soundray: i have it directly
[01:14] <printk> Stormx2: what is "it" ? :)
[01:14] <britt_> cartufer: i just need guiance, my hand is fine
[01:14] <jenocin> Fujitsu: no selinux/app armour either, can probably be added in, but still to me feels like a desktop distro, debian I really don't have as much of a problem with
[01:14] <britt_> i dont need drivers i would think
[01:14] <britt_> i just need the software I suppose
[01:14] <jenocin> Fujitsu: been using ubuntu since 4 or so I think
[01:14] <Stormx2> printk: edgy eft!
[01:14] <cartufer> google is ur friend
[01:14] <rag> soundray, test it on other usb ?
[01:14] <britt_> woody howto's and breezy ones
[01:14] <rag> soundray, on my laptop?
[01:14] <Fujitsu> jenocin: Ubuntu server is very similar to Debian... I don't see how you can dislike one of them.
[01:14] <britt_> no dapper
[01:15] <printk> Stormx2: oh, nope not yet
[01:15] <rag> printk, soundray, it kill my ubuntu
[01:15] <soundray> rag: yes, or remove the mouse -- sometimes there are conflicts.
[01:15] <jenocin> Fujitsu: might just need to go try the newer version
[01:15] <ZirJoker> !metacity
[01:15] <ubotu> metacity: A lightweight GTK2 based Window Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.14.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 693 kB, installed size 10732 kB
[01:15] <rag> soundray, on moment, i use touchpad, there is any usb mouse connected
[01:15] <rag> soundray, only usb cam
[01:15] <ZirJoker> !gtk
[01:15] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
[01:16] <Flannel> jenocin: SELinux is in dapper, universe, also see this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux
[01:16] <rag> soundray, Logitech quickcam messenger
[01:16] <ZirJoker> !topaz
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topaz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <ZirJoker> !compiz
[01:16] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:16] <Flannel> jenocin: I believe full support is in edgy
[01:16] <soundray> rag: what's the USB ID? (Find out with lsusb)
[01:17] <KGnome> ii need help...
[01:17] <helloyo> KGnome: yeah?
[01:17] <rag> soundray, Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:08f0 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenge
[01:17] <triade> soundray: rag prob sounds very similar to mine ..... known USB bug?
[01:18] <FlimFlamMan> any mozilla thunderbird message filter experts in the channel?  :-)
[01:19] <rag> soundray, please
[01:19] <helloyo> anyone gotten firefox 2.0 to work in dapper?
[01:19] <soundray> rag: what module does it load?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> helloyo: yes installing it per !firefox works fine
[01:20] <helloyo> !firefox
[01:20] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[01:20] <rag> soundray, videodev and quickcam
[01:20] <helloyo> thanks gnomefreak
[01:20] <FlimFlamMan> i'm trying to set up filters so that when a message arrives and it contains a string in a certain custom header, it gets copied to another folder.  all other other messages should be *moved* to the other folder.  but custom headers don't offer a "doesn't contain" test
[01:20] <gnomefreak> helloyo: yw
[01:20] <jvai> hey ppl, hoary died last nyte on this box :(, dapper's doin well, EVERTHING just works, things r a lil different, but i'll adjust
[01:20] <rag> soundray, usbcore               130692  4 quickcam,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[01:20] <dalani> Firefox??? never again it's the worse browser. Try logging onto Google's website
[01:21] <FlimFlamMan> dalani: what are you talking about??
[01:21] <Draconicus> What's gnome-meeting called these days?
[01:21] <dalani> Ive had bad results with forefox just to slow
[01:21] <Draconicus> I forgot.
[01:21] <Draconicus> Ekiga?
[01:21] <dalani> and its not the ip4 thing either I fixed that
[01:22] <CVirus> how can I restart my synaptic touch pad ?
[01:22] <helloyo> any ideas when edgy is being released? i have the day off and would love to install it...
[01:22] <Code-E> !ati > Code-E
[01:22] <LjL> !ef | helloyo
[01:22] <triade> next question: anybody here got mutiple linux boot system?
[01:22] <ubotu> helloyo: Edgy will be released on October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[01:22] <rag> helloyo, tomorrow or now
[01:22] <KGnome> i installed a Desktop Environment(XPde) that doesn't automatically add its self to login session screen, how an i get it there
[01:22] <KGnome> i installed a Desktop Environment(XPde) that doesn't automatically add its self to login session screen, how can i get it there
[01:23] <fydo> KGnome: once is enough :P
[01:23] <rag> soundray, say me if you know
[01:23] <soundray> rag: sorry, I have no good ideas. Maybe upgrade to edgy?
[01:23] <Dr_willis> KGnome,  find/copy/make a correct .desktop entry for it. :)
[01:23] <rag> soundray, ok thanks
[01:23] <KGnome> how do i do thet
[01:23] <Dr_willis> KGnome,  look in -------> /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop
[01:24] <KGnome> ty
[01:24] <Dr_willis> and have fun. :)
[01:24] <rag> somebody with Logitech quickcam?
[01:24] <pschulz01> I have a corrupted /var/lib/dpkg/status..Can i reset it somehow?
[01:24] <ZirJoker> !gtk
[01:24] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
[01:24] <KGnome> should i be root?
[01:24] <drbreen> anyone knows simple latex solutions like LYX for gtk ?
[01:24] <drbreen> maybe simpler ?
[01:24] <LuisMendes> can I trust the Fridge? saying ubuntu 6.10 will be released in less than an hour...
[01:24] <rag> my logitech quickcam messenger, it kill my ubuntu
[01:24] <winga> can someone help me with my usb problem? I get this when i try to connect my gp2x which should be recognized as a usb drive:   hub 1-0:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 2 disabled
[01:24] <Flannel> LuisMendes: On the 'calendar' thing?
[01:25] <LuisMendes> Flannel, yes
[01:25] <dalani> My question: is it possible in Dapper to use opera 100% without Firefox installed
[01:25] <Flannel> LuisMendes: that goes by dates, only.  not times, or anything.  It's just a calendar sort of thing
[01:25] <britt_> bios sees my drive, ubuntu sees it and recognizes my 2nd drive as hdb, but i cant pull up fdisk on it...what gives?
[01:25] <LuisMendes> Flannel, well but anyway, it counts down the time in GMT format.. so it should be accurate :)
[01:25] <soundray> winga: wow, a gp2x, I want one! Sorry, no idea about the usb problem... tried connecting to another socket?
[01:25] <Flannel> LuisMendes: right, but edgy won't be released at 00:00 GMT
[01:25] <Code-E> ?
[01:26] <jvai> my usb stik is flaky still, it mounts when it feels like it
[01:26] <psusi> britt_, what do you mean you can't pull up fdisk on it?
[01:26] <winga> soundray, just got it today for my b-day yesterday :) can't get ubuntu to get it up right though
[01:26] <triade> britt_: are you pointing it dierctly : "fdisk /dev/hdb"?
[01:26] <britt_> unable to open /deb/hdb
[01:26] <britt_> yes
[01:26] <soundray> winga: are you connecting it via a hub?
[01:26] <britt_> what does it mean
[01:26] <Dr_willis> soundray,  i keep meaning to order one also. :P
[01:27] <jherm_> i'm sure this question has been asked a million times today... what time can i expect to see an edgy torrent up?
[01:27] <britt_> ive never had issues with fdisk
[01:27] <Code-E> !
[01:27] <psusi> britt_, sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[01:27] <Flannel> jherm_: whenever it's relesed.  There's no set time
[01:27] <britt_> and since bios sees it, and ubuntu sees it, is my drive bad or something?
[01:27] <user-land> jvai, using a hub ?
[01:27] <triade> britt_: and "cfdisk" ?
[01:27] <winga> soundray, no i'm plugging it right in to the mobo
[01:27] <soundray> winga: how big is the screen? I mean diameter in cm, roughly?
[01:27] <psusi> britt_, and doesn't it specify WHY it was unable to open?
[01:27] <drbreen> !lyx > drbreen
[01:27] <britt_> sudo did it
[01:27] <britt_> :)
[01:27] <drbreen> !lyx
[01:27] <ubotu> lyx: High Level Word Processor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.7-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 48 kB
[01:28] <psusi> britt_, yea, only root is allowed to edit partition tables ;)
[01:28] <jvai> usr-landnoo, it's in the side of the thinkpad, in 1 of the ports
[01:28] <britt_> i see
[01:28] <britt_> it freaked me out
[01:28] <britt_> oh how do i format JFS
[01:28] <Ragga> espaol
[01:28] <Flannel> !es
[01:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:28] <winga> soundray, i think 3-3.5
[01:28] <Cyberworm> hi
[01:28] <britt_> apparently mythtv works better with jfs
[01:28] <winga> soundray, good enough for me
[01:29] <soundray> winga: is that inches or centimeters?
[01:29] <winga> in
[01:29] <agliodbs> anyone going to/working on the Developer Summit?
[01:29] <winga> soundray, in
[01:29] <soundray> winga: have you tried plugging it in, and then turning it on?
[01:29] <jvai> well, i can say, that playing dvd's in dapper doesnt slow down x, like in hoary
[01:30] <jvai> *watching SAVING PRIVATE RYAN*
[01:30] <winga> soundray, yeah just did, what does that message even meen?
[01:30] <soundray> winga: I don't know, never seen it.
[01:31] <noex> Can anyone point me in the direction of a How To Install Firefox 2. I can't find the directions on the mozilla site anywhere. They just tell you what its going to do.
[01:31] <Flannel> !firefox
[01:31] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[01:31] <dalani> My question: is it possible in Dapper to use opera 100% without Firefox installed
[01:32] <Flannel> dalani: is there any reason why it wouldnt be?
[01:32] <noex> Hey Flennel, yeh, I have seen that guide it's the guide for 1.5.x not 2.0
[01:32] <Flannel> noex: right, same steps though, just different filenames
[01:32] <dalani> Im very disappointed with  Firefox
[01:32] <soundray> winga: it might be something that you can ask their support to help fix
[01:32] <winga> maybe
[01:32] <noex> Flannel: Ah, thanks! I am still very new.
[01:33] <aldin> is it came up? edgy?
[01:33] <h3htimo> when is edgy going to be officially released???
[01:33] <Flannel> dalani: right, I wasn't questioning why you might want to.  but why would you think it wouldn't be?  opera and firefox are independant
[01:33] <darkyoshi372> tomorrow
[01:33] <soundray> dalani: stop that nonsense. If you need a faster browser, try swiftfox or links. Whether opera will work for you or not, you'll have to find out yourself.
[01:33] <Flannel> h3htimo, aldin, whenever it gets released.  There's no set time
[01:33] <jvai> it's not fair 4 me to compare this dapper release against xp, noo, i did that w/ hoary, i wanna see how vista does..
[01:33] <h3htimo> Flannel, i heard it was going to be soon tho
[01:33] <dalani> ah thanks
[01:33] <jvai> <<-- stay humble
[01:33] <h3htimo> i think i read it on digg
[01:33] <darkyoshi372> I just upgraded to edgy RC, and X will not start. I'm on a Radeon.
[01:34] <aldin> 26th is today
[01:34] <Flannel> darkyoshi372: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[01:34] <darkyoshi372> okay, thank you
[01:34] <aldin> in europe
[01:34] <joeCoT> lol. it gets released /tomorrow/? I dunno if it's just me, but it broke all opening apps on my desktop. I left it to dist-upgrade again, hope that fixes it.
[01:34] <J_P> hi all
[01:36] <Stormx2> Guys
[01:36] <Stormx2> How would I get a list of currently installed apps?
[01:36] <soundray> Stormx2: dpkg -l * | grep ^ii
[01:36] <JosefK> Stormx2: dpkg --get-selection > installed.txt
[01:36] <Stormx2> Thanks both of you :)
[01:37] <jordan_> How do I ignore a dependency that I know I don't need?
[01:37] <aldin> TO ALL: anyone has info when 2it wil be"
[01:37] <soundray> JosefK: that's nice!
[01:37] <JosefK> jordan_: if you've installed something locally, there's a procedure for telling that to dpkg
[01:37] <JosefK> jordan_: if you haven't installed it locally though, then it is still a dependency
[01:37] <JosefK> soundray: aye :)
[01:37] <Stormx2> Ima upgrade now I think.
[01:37] <jordan_> JosefK, And that would be :)
[01:38] <soundray> JosefK: except you forgot an 's' ;)
[01:38] <NoIPMixAM> anyone can tell me more about Reiser4 ?
[01:39] <ianmacgregor> I discovered the Deskbar applet a little bit ago.. and all I can say is WOW! This thing ROCKS!
[01:39] <jordan_> JosefK, How would I do that with dpkg?
[01:39] <JosefK> soundray: really plural?  shucks :/
[01:40] <jordan_> ianmacgregor, What does it do?
[01:40] <aldin> any link for info about edgy release time
[01:40] <jordan_> !schedual
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about schedual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <jordan_> !edgy
[01:40] <soundray> !ef | aldin
[01:40] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:40] <ubotu> aldin: Edgy will be released around October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[01:41] <aldin> ubotu: it is hard lol
[01:41] <ianmacgregor> !ubotu
[01:41] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:41] <Riot777> sudo sed -e s/\sdapper/ edgy/g -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <--- best way to upgrade I've seen so far
[01:43] <winga> soundray, it was the usb cable
[01:43] <winga> soundray, go figure the one it came with doesn't work
[01:44] <soundray> winga: well done -- how did you work that out?
[01:44] <Krux0> Does anyone happen to know if apt writes to a configuration file while or after performing apt-get -d --reinstall install `dpkg -l|grep ii|cut -d " " -f3`?
[01:44] <Krux0> because i have done that on my box, then transfered all the downloaded packages to a networkless box on my flash drive and tried to run apt-get --no-download install <package nameon the unnetworked pc and it gives an error complaining that the package cannot be retrieved but it exists in /var/cache/apt/archives/>
[01:45] <winga> soundray, i remember reading somewhere on a review that someone else had that problem, so i tried another one i had
[01:45] <Krux0> but when i cleaned the cache on my networked pc and retrieve one package and tried reinstalling it with --no-downlaod it worked. this has lead me to believe that apt was not aware of the packages that i placed in the archive folder
[01:45] <j2daosh> krux, i would assume so
[01:46] <jvai> heey, tcpdump doesnt do eth1 in dapper! why/
[01:46] <soundray> Krux0: perhaps a permission problem?
[01:46] <Krux0> and that a database file is being updated
[01:46] <j2daosh> when you do an apt-get update it updates your sources list and packags most likely
[01:46] <Krux0> no permission problems
[01:46] <rag> please my cam kill my ubuntu, do you know?
[01:46] <Flannel> j2daosh: just package lists
[01:46] <j2daosh> or try doing a "sudo updatedb"
[01:46] <Stormx2> Pray for me, this has never worked for me.
[01:46] <ianmacgregor> Krux0: Why would you place packages into the archives folder manually?
[01:46] <rag> Logitech QuickKill Ubuntu
[01:46] <j2daosh> that will "index" your fs
[01:46] <rag> :)
[01:46] <kitche> jvai: think you have to tell tcpdump to look at the other network card
[01:47] <Fujitsu> j2daosh: apt-get update just updates the package lists, and updatedb updates locate's DB, nothing to do with apt.
[01:47] <soundray> ianmacgregor: why not, on an unconnected machine?
[01:47] <Krux0> i believe i have done apt-get update and it still would not use the packages in archive
[01:47] <jvai> oo, what's the command 4 that?
[01:47] <SpaceFrog> Anyone know of a good MSProject clone for Linux?
[01:47] <Krux0> because it's an unnetworked pc at my job
[01:47] <j2daosh> Fujitsu: but maybe apt reads from that list
[01:47] <rag> Logitech Quick-Kill my ubuntu, my cam kill my ubuntu, do you know
[01:47] <jrib> Krux0: do you know of apt-zip?
[01:47] <ianmacgregor> soundray: I was wondering if he thought that would make apt think it was a repo
[01:47] <LjL> !equivalents > SpaceFrog
[01:47] <Krux0> it has to be done that day
[01:47] <Fujitsu> j2daosh: It doesn't.
[01:47] <j2daosh> if the system dont know the files are in archive how will apt know they are there?
[01:47] <jvai> tcpdump -vv worked in hoary ither way eth0 or eth1
[01:47] <Krux0> i've cam across it on a man page
[01:47] <KGnome> How do i manually add a Desktop Environment to the logon session manager?
[01:48] <Fujitsu> j2daosh: I can definitively say that it has nothing to do with it.
[01:48] <rag> soundray: my cam kill my ubuntu, do you know something?
[01:48] <j2daosh> lol ok
[01:48] <jrib> Krux0: it is exactly for what you are trying to do
[01:48] <jordan_> How do I ignore a dependency that I know I don't need?
[01:48] <j2daosh> well since your positive ill run with you
[01:48] <Krux0> jrib, great
[01:48] <soundray> ianmacgregor: that might actually be a good idea...
[01:48] <Fujitsu> jordan_: You do need it.
[01:48] <jvai> snaap, snort doesnt do eth1 ithr!
[01:48] <ianmacgregor> j2daosh: Putting packages into the archives folder has nothing to do with apt knowing they are there. The archives folder is not a repo and so apt wouldn't see them anyway
[01:48] <Krux0> jrib, hope it solves dependencies too
[01:48] <teimu> hey guys. im trying to install dapper on a graphically and RAM disadvantaged computer. the live session is taking way too long to load, so far 45mins just to see a login screen. So, im wondering if it's possible to install using the text-based installer. Is this possible?
[01:49] <jordan_> Fujitsu, I want to remove totem-mozilla but not the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, I don't need it.
[01:49] <Fujitsu> jordan_: You need to remove ubuntu-desktop, then.
[01:49] <j2daosh> jordan, meta package is fine to delete
[01:49] <KGnome> How do i manually add a Desktop Environment to the logon session manager?
[01:49] <jrib> Krux0: it should
[01:49] <j2daosh> just turn right back around and reinstall it
[01:49] <Fujitsu> (ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, you won't lose anything if you remove it)
[01:49] <soundray> Krux0: there is a dpkg command that will create a Packages.gz and stuff from a collection of .debs, so you can use it as a local repository in sources.list. That might be a solution.
[01:49] <LjL> SpaceFrog: there are a few packaged programs that can do Gantt diagrams and all that stuff
[01:49] <ianmacgregor> teimu: Yes, the Alternate CD is the only one I use because I like the text-based installer. It's quick and best on an old machine
[01:50] <Fujitsu> soundray: apt-move?
[01:50] <teimu> ianmacgregor, oo yes. I saw the torrent for that. I will download it now. THANKS!
[01:50] <jordan_> I know it is OK to delete, but I would like to be able to apt-get autoremove without everything that ubuntu-desktop depends on being removed, I want to keep ubuntu-desktop.
[01:50] <ianmacgregor> teimu: You're welcome :)
[01:50] <Riot777> teimu: how much mem ?
[01:50] <GreatDeal> Hey, normally I wouldn't do this, but need some help. I've got a box on an OC-12 and two OC-3 backbones.... I'm very willing to give very cheap webhosting... Speedsare unbelievable... I've seen downloads go over 1 MB a second from T1s... If anyone is interested in cheap hosting, with web, e-mail, webmail, sql, just about anything you can think off... PM ME... Prices are Negotiable... Hurry Up!!
[01:50] <Krux0> ianmacgregor, no i just thought that since i would supply the --no-download option it might bypass searching for it on the net and look in archives or atleast do the latter if the former fails
[01:50] <Fujitsu> jordan_: Why not just leave the package installed?
[01:50] <KGnome> helloyo: i need more help on that
[01:50] <Krux0> soundray, thanks
[01:51] <LjL> !ops | GreatDeal
[01:51] <ubotu> GreatDeal: Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[01:51] <soundray> Fujitsu: that might have been it... Krux0: apt-move
[01:51] <helloyo> KGnome: more help on what?
[01:51] <Omicron> Hello all.
[01:51] <GreatDeal> ok then
[01:51] <nalioth> LjL: yes?
[01:51] <LjL> nalioth: greatdeal spamming web hosting
[01:51] <gnomefreak> LjL: ?
[01:51] <jordan_> Fujitsu, Because then mplayer-mozilla doesn't work.
[01:51] <nalioth> ah yes
[01:51] <KGnome> helloyo: manually adding a desktop environment
[01:51] <nalioth> GreatDeal: you are not in the correct channel for your message
[01:51] <helloyo> KGnome: oh, ok, just a sec, i'll find something
[01:52] <GreatDeal> nalioth: ok then, bye
[01:52] <Omicron> Anyone got a working Belkin wirelss G adapter version 5100 using Atheros chipset?
[01:52] <jrib> jordan_: sure it does
[01:52] <lostatc> Is there any site/s dedicated or useful when it comes to GNOME optimization?
[01:53] <triade> Omicron: I have
[01:53] <jrib> jordan_: just 'touch' all the mplayer .so's and firefox will prefer mplayer over totem.  But to answer your question, you can use the 'equivs'
[01:53] <helloyo> KGnome: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&highlight=enlightenment go to that url and have a look at how they added the desktop entry to xsessions, just change the values to what you need
[01:53] <jrib> package
[01:53] <Omicron> Trirade.....could you share the details?
[01:53] <triade> what's the prob?
[01:53] <phobia> My grub boot manager is gone, any ideas? I have a dapper live cd and I know that my partitions with my linux files are there.
[01:53] <eric__> Aiee, I can't use my keyboard in GUI.  I'm using IRSSI right now, something that I'm not perfectly familiar with - but it BEEPS any time I press a key.  Any suggestions?
[01:53] <helloyo> i'm willing to break my system! i want to try some cool new software, any suggestions?
[01:53] <eric__> It just kind of, randomly happened?
[01:54] <Omicron> Triade, are you using ndiswrapper or does it work out-of-the-box??
[01:54] <KGnome> helloyo: ty ill try
[01:54] <jordan_> jrib, How do I "'touch' all the mplayer .so's" ?
[01:54] <Fujitsu> phobia: Did you install Windows or another OS after Ubuntu?
[01:54] <soundray> phobia: follow the instructions for recovering grub after Windows
[01:54] <Omicron> Triade, it is not recognized at all on my system?
[01:54] <rag> my cam kill my ubuntu, it frezze
[01:54] <soundray> !grub | phobia
[01:54] <ubotu> phobia: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:54] <triade> Omicron: Just stuck it in and it works.
[01:54] <phobia> Yes, I installed windows after
[01:54] <Omicron> Triade, you using dapper Ubuntu?
[01:54] <jrib> jordan_: sudo touch /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*mplayer*   I think
[01:54] <Fujitsu> phobia: See the link ubotu sent you.
[01:54] <phobia> Oh, thank you
[01:55] <rag> please!
[01:55] <rag> my cam freeze my ubuntu
[01:55] <Fujitsu> rag: If nobody answers, it probably means nobody knows.
[01:55] <rag> and i reboot with power button
[01:55] <Fujitsu> So asking every minute isn't going to do much good.
[01:55] <helloyo> what's a cool app that i should try? anything!
[01:55] <soundray> rag: please, this is pointless. If someone here could help you, they would. Come back at a later time.
[01:55] <jrib> helloyo: amarok
[01:55] <eric__> helloyo - try beryl
[01:55] <triade> Omicron: yup. What does "iwconfig" say?
[01:55] <helloyo> jrib: thanks, but got it
[01:55] <jrib> helloyo: vim?
[01:55] <rag> Fujitsu, soundray, ok
[01:55] <FlimFlamMan> i'm trying to use MS-Outlook and MS-Exchange as little as possible, but i still need to be able to confirm/decline meeting requests contained in e-mail messages.
[01:55] <FlimFlamMan> so, upon arrival, i want to move all messages out of my Exchange inbox into an IMAP inbox on another server, EXCEPT those with a "Content-class" header that contains "calendarmessage".
[01:55] <FlimFlamMan> unfortunately, in the message filter builder, there is no "doesn't contain" comparison operator for custom headers (like Content-class).  is there any other way to do this?
[01:56] <helloyo> eric__: was considering that, what sort of setup time am i looking at?
[01:56] <helloyo> jrib: isn't that a text editor?
[01:56] <eric__> About five to ten minutes, tops.
[01:56] <jrib> helloyo: yes
[01:56] <Omicron> Triade, I'd have to put the card back and start over again to get a reading for you.
[01:56] <helloyo> eric__: i'm not sure if you're sarcastic... but i'll have a look into it, could be interesting
[01:56] <soundray> FlimFlamMan: procmail ?
[01:56] <eric__> You might want to try #ubuntu-xgl for more info, helloyo
[01:56] <Krux0> thank you all
[01:56] <soundray> !procmail | FlimFlamMan
[01:56] <helloyo> eric__: ok, will do
[01:57] <triade> Omicron: USB or PCMCIA?
[01:57] <ubotu> procmail: Versatile e-mail processor. In component main, is optional. Version 3.22-11ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 137 kB, installed size 336 kB
[01:57] <eric__> No, not much sarcasm.  It's a pretty simple setup for dapper.
[01:57] <Omicron> Triade, PCI.
[01:57] <eric__> Enjoy!
[01:57] <jordan_> jrib, Thank you for that, mplayer now works AND I know how to ignore dependencies if I ever need to later :)
[01:57] <jrib> jordan_: np
[01:57] <eric__> Aiee, I can't use my keyboard in GUI.  I'm using IRSSI right now, something that I'm not perfectly familiar with - but it BEEPS any time I press a key.  Any suggestions?
[01:58] <Flannel> eric__: sounds like a hardware issue, if your computer beeps on each key.  You sure keyboard/mouse are plugged into the right PS2 ports? and you have no stuck keys?
[01:58] <Code-1> Anybody know how to get nIRC on xubuntu?
[01:58] <triade> Omicron: ah I got the USB version. You need madwifi drivers installed.
[01:58] <Omicron> Triade, nothing shows up in the Network area.
[01:58] <shinshan> hola
[01:58] <eric__> Flannel: I'm using the keyboard now, in command line.
[01:58] <shinshan> i need help
[01:58] <Omicron> Madwifi frivers...ok...what about ndiswrapper?
[01:58] <eric__> I'm using IRSSI, like I said.  It's just beeping at me in the GUI, on screen 7.
[01:58] <soundray> eric__: try 'xset c off' just for sanity
[01:59] <kitche> Code-1: nIRC?
[01:59] <Code-1> yes
[01:59] <Fujitsu> !helpme
[01:59] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:59] <FBorges22> where I can find a tutorial telling how to configure the proftpd server?
[01:59] <KGnome> helloyo: tyve works now ;-] 
[01:59] <kitche> Code-1: never heard of it but I have heard of mirc
[01:59] <eric__> soundray: it says unable to open display
[01:59] <Fujitsu> shinshan: Ask away.
[01:59] <triade> Omicron: dunno, don't like "other"drivers. They say it's oK.
[01:59] <Code-1> kitche: its basically a terminal based irc client
[01:59] <Code-1> But I like it
[01:59] <soundray> eric__: try again from Alt-F2 run dialog
[02:00] <Omicron> Triade, is there a procedure i could follow to use these madwifi drivers?
[02:00] <eric__> soundray - I'm on screen 1, logged into terminal - press alt f2 here?
[02:01] <soundray> eric__: no, this needs to be done in X. Thought you said that X had messed it up.
[02:01] <Omicron> Triade, so I don't need anything from the CD that came with the adapter??
[02:01] <ianmacgregor> eric__: No, ALT+F2 brings up a gui run dialog, won't do you much good in tty1
[02:01] <triade> Omicron: I'm not sure, mine has "ralink"chips. take a look at their (madwifi) site
[02:01] <eric__> soundray: it is, and it just beeps at me, it won't let me press alt+f2 in the x.
[02:02] <triade> Omicron: I've heard they're the best drivers around including wpa support.
[02:02] <Omicron> Triade, yeah, I heard the ralink chipset was working as native Linux, but the chipset in mine doesn't seem to be suported :(
[02:02] <KGnome> Giving help on Windows Apps on Linux...
[02:02] <dontbanme> help - when I apt-get dist-upgrade to edgy, apt wants to remove xserver-xorg without installing any replacements
[02:03] <LjL> !edgy > dontbanme
[02:03] <helloyo> KGnome: no problem
[02:03] <triade> Omicron: I was thinking of moving to Atheros chipset cause of wpa
[02:03] <dontbanme> ..
[02:03] <shinshan> i need configure the "interfaces" in ubuntu with ip xxx.xxx.131.xxx & gw xxx.xxx.196.xxx... my english is bad...
[02:03] <kingace> hello, im trying to install enemy territory, and I have a .run file with no clue how to run it
[02:04] <Omicron> Triade, well, i haven't found anyplace that indicates the Belkin PCI adapter is working with Dapper when using Atheros chipset. Perhpas with ndiswrapper and the Windows drivers but i was hoping to avoid that setup.
[02:04] <njan> kingace, chmod +x nameof.run && sh ./nameof.run
[02:04] <eyequeue> shinshan, man 5 interfaces, sudo nano /etc/apt/interfaces
[02:04] <Dr_willis> kingace,  chmod +x whatever.run  && ./whatever.run
[02:04] <Fujitsu> shinshan: Open up System->Administration->Networking.
[02:04] <josh__> whats up guys? what is the format for cron entries? i cant remember the exact format
[02:04] <kingace> thanks
[02:04] <LjL> josh__: "man 5 crontab"
[02:04] <tsoler> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28339/
[02:05] <d-E-u-S> how i can set up autologin for XFCE?
[02:05] <Fujitsu> d-E-u-S: Find the login screen administration tool, I'm not sure where it is in XFCE.
[02:05] <eric__> Nope, not making any progress.
[02:05] <shinshan> ok...
[02:05] <triade> Omicron: ndiswrappr itself is very simple but you need the windows .inf file
[02:05] <jordanau> i am trying to develop a website with someone. I have a LAMP server set up on my computer and would like him and only him to be allowed to have full access to my apache server root folder. What is the best way to allow him permission to the folder (btw he is running windows)
[02:05] <Fujitsu> d-E-u-S:  (or type `sudo gdmsetup' in a terminal)
[02:05] <eric__> It's still just beeping at me.
[02:05] <GIFRATE> does anyone know at what time edgy will officially be released?
[02:05] <KGnome> where can i get winelib?
[02:05] <eric__> I think I'm going to have to do a full reboot - maybe?
[02:05] <Dr_willis> GIFRATE,  when its ready. :)
[02:05] <eric__> Gah, there goes my uptime.
[02:05] <Fujitsu> GIFRATE: no. Whenever they decide to release it.
[02:05] <Omicron> Triade, i see an .inf on the CD that came with the adapter.
[02:06] <soundray> eric__: let me check this with you: you're in X right now, correct? Gnome?
[02:06] <Dr_willis> every 6 mo - people are asking ' whats the exact SECOND! it will be relased!'
[02:06] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:06] <Omicron> I've never worked with ndiswrapper and I'm a Linux newbie.
[02:06] <eric__> soundray: no, I'm on tty1, using IRSSI as my irc client
[02:06] <Dr_willis> IF you must have it now.. get the rc, and just install/upgrade :)
[02:06] <LjL> !edgyfinal
[02:06] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[02:06] <triade> Omicron: check the ndiswrapper site at sourceforge if they've got a driver ... or comments.
[02:06] <GIFRATE> just impatient :P
[02:06] <shinshan> alguien habla espaol?
[02:06] <eric__> !es
[02:06] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:06] <LjL> !es
[02:06] <eric__> Gotcha, Ljl :p
[02:07] <LjL> heh
[02:07] <soundray> eric__: yes, try a reboot.
[02:07] <shinshan> ubuntu es no tiene las respuestas a todo...
[02:07] <eric__> Alright, going for the reboot now.
[02:07] <Omicron> Triade, so i should look for a specific driver for this adapter on the Sourceforge site?
[02:07] <ianmacgregor> !es | shinshan
[02:07] <ubotu> shinshan: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:07] <triade> Omicron: its as simple as "ndiswrapper -i /path to/ your.inf"
[02:08] <Omicron> Triade, gotta install ndiswrapper first! :)
[02:08] <d-E-u-S> how to setup X?
[02:08] <d-E-u-S> resolution etc.
[02:09] <LjL> d-E-u-S: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:09] <josh__> how do i setup mail on here? just system mail not like pop3 mail
[02:10] <jvai> josh: just 4 sending?
[02:10] <eric__> Nope, still giving me a beep of doom.
[02:10] <ianmacgregor> eric__: hehe, BSOD: Beep Sound Of Doom
[02:11] <Vaske_Car> is Edgy out?
[02:11] <jbroome> NO
[02:11] <cartufer> vaske, tomorrow
[02:11] <Vaske_Car> tomorrow?
[02:11] <LjL> !ef | Vaske_Car
[02:11] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: Edgy will be released around October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[02:11] <Vaske_Car> ok L:)
[02:12] <jbroome> is feisty out yet?  is it usable?
[02:12] <eric__> Yeah, it'll be funny when I fix it, ianmacgregor.  ~____~
[02:12] <d-E-u-S> where can i setup my network in XFCE?? is there a gui for this?
[02:12] <LjL> jbroome: join #ubuntu+2
[02:12] <Dr_willis> d-E-u-S,  run the gnome network tool... but i cant rember its name. :)
[02:13] <Omicron> Triade, thank you for your help.
[02:13] <Vaske_Car> Is XFCE a lot faster than Gnome?
[02:13] <d-E-u-S> its installed on xfce?
[02:13] <d-E-u-S> Vaske_Car, i think
[02:13] <LjL> Vaske_Car: it mostly depends on the applications you use on it.
[02:13] <Omicron> Triade, i'm going to download and install ndiswrapper now.
[02:13] <Dr_willis> d-E-u-S,  if xfce isent using a LOT of the gnome tools.. then its missing a lot of features. :)
[02:13] <jordanau> i am trying to develop a website with someone. I have a LAMP server set up on my computer and would like him and only him to be allowed to have full access to my apache server root folder. What is the best way to allow him permission to the folder (btw he is running windows)
[02:14] <Dr_willis> i cant even find the name of the gnome network config tools
[02:14] <Vaske_Car> I have PIII 600Mh and 256Mb of ram, would it run fine for average user?
[02:14] <eric__> Vaske_Car: yes.
[02:14] <eobanb> Vaske_Car, certainly
[02:14] <jvai> snaap, i keep right cliking for the shell, keep for getting it aint there anymore, & i set up a terminl icon in the panel..smh
[02:14] <eobanb> Vaske_Car, i have a 600 MHz with 384 MB of ram, and gnome ran fine.
[02:14] <eobanb> Vaske_Car, i suppose i'd still recommend Xfce though
[02:14] <eobanb> i've since upgraded it to 512
[02:14] <triade> Omicron: good luck.
[02:15] <LjL> eobanb, i don't see why it wouldn't. 384Mb is plenty of storage.
[02:15] <Vaske_Car> wanted to danate one old PC to a friend so he can use it for the internet...
[02:15] <eobanb> LjL, firefox can use up a lot of RAM.
[02:15] <eric__> It's weird, my keyboard works fine in the login screen, but once I actually get into the desktop the keyboard produces that annoying beep sound of doom.
[02:15] <Vaske_Car> Is that tool Automatix compatible with XFCE as well?
[02:16] <LjL> eobanb, firefox runs fine in 256mb
[02:16] <LjL> !automatix | Vaske_Car
[02:16] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[02:16] <Dr_willis> Vaske_Car,  automatix is a bad idea.. and its window-manager-non-specific
[02:16] <Dr_willis> Vaske_Car,  so yes.. but its still a bad idea
[02:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:16] <Stormx2> automatix = evil
[02:16] <monkster> greetings...
[02:16] <Vaske_Car> is there another tool that do the same thing?
[02:16] <LjL> !easyubuntu | Vaske_Car
[02:16] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:16] <Stormx2> easyubuntu, I think.
[02:16] <LjL> but the best tool is the documentation.
[02:17] <Fujitsu> EasyUbuntu is generally safer.
[02:17] <Fujitsu> Although neither are recommended.
[02:17] <Vaske_Car> ok
[02:17] <Vaske_Car> btw why manu people does nto recomment Automatix?
[02:17] <Dr_willis> both can be replaced by a few apt-gets and edits of the sources.list :)
[02:17] <eric__> So... any solutions to my keyboard beeping sound of doom?
[02:17] <d-E-u-S> Dr_willis I cant find this network tool :(
[02:17] <Dr_willis> Vaske_Car,  it can trash the system
[02:17] <LjL> Vaske_Car: because it breaks systems.
[02:17] <Dr_willis> d-E-u-S,  i use kubuntu, so i cant recall the thing under unbunt
[02:17] <Sebastian> hello
[02:18] <LjL> !hi
[02:18] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:18] <Sebastian> I need some help
[02:18] <Sebastian> mplease
[02:18] <LjL> !ask
[02:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:18] <Sebastian> oh ok
[02:18] <monkster> I have a pile of .odt open office documents and I would like to search the text in them...
[02:18] <Sebastian> sorry, first time here
[02:18] <Sebastian> !ask
[02:18] <monkster> Can Beagle do that? I can't get it to work.
[02:18] <Sebastian> Yesterday I installed edgy
[02:18] <Fujitsu> Sebastian: #ubuntu+1 is a better place for Edgy.
[02:18] <Sebastian> and I have problems with icon themes
[02:18] <LjL> !edgy | Sebastian
[02:18] <ubotu> Sebastian: edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:18] <eyequeue> Sebastian, #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[02:18] <Fujitsu> monkster: Yes it can.
[02:19] <Sebastian> oh ok
[02:19] <Sebastian> thanks
[02:19] <monkster> Fujitsu, sure, right? hmm...
[02:19] <DesolationX> hello all
[02:19] <LjL> !hi
[02:19] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:19] <monkster> Maybe I have to rebuild indexes or something?
[02:19] <DesolationX> i need some help please
[02:19] <LjL> !ask
[02:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:19] <d-E-u-S> Know somebody how to setup network in XFCE?
[02:19] <Ash-Fox> It's thursday!
[02:19] <vanRijn_> re, all
[02:19] <Fujitsu> Ash-Fox: We noticed.
[02:20] <Vaske_Car> jordanau, he can use SSH and WinSCP to manage that server
[02:20] <vanRijn_> anyone know where to get firefox 2.0 for linux-ppc?
[02:20] <Ash-Fox> Fujitsu, 6.10 should be out, wee =)
[02:20] <Vaske_Car> wee imagine Ubuntu for next 4-5 years :))
[02:21] <Fujitsu> Ash-Fox: It will be released /on/ the 26th, not before.
[02:21] <Fujitsu> vanRijn_: It is in Edgy, and don't try to install it on a previous version, please.
[02:21] <Dr_willis> d-E-u-S,  try network-admin
[02:21] <Ash-Fox> Fujitsu it is the 26th\?
[02:21] <DesolationX> lol well i have powermac g4 dual 1ghz and ati video card. live boot loads fine after it loads it says everything is ok then i have black sceen
[02:21] <adam_> hello - i've just installed the edgy RC, and it looks great! except... the fonts in firefox 2.0 look like ass. they're bigger, and more antialiased, looking totally out of place. does anyone know how to fix?
[02:21] <bimberi> Ash-Fox: 26th in the -12 Timezone :)
[02:21] <LjL> !edgy > adam_
[02:21] <jordanau> Vaske_Car, is a vsftpd serber an okay idea as long as i have anonymous access turned off?
[02:21] <Fujitsu> Ash-Fox: Yes.
[02:21] <jordanau> serber * server
[02:22] <Ash-Fox> bimberi, ah :P
[02:22] <Dr_willis> adam_,  install the msttcorefonts for a start
[02:22] <Vaske_Car> I prefer SSH and WinSCP
[02:22] <Vaske_Car> as I remember vsftps use plain text for passwords......
[02:22] <Vaske_Car> vsftpd*
[02:22] <sethk> jordan_, the secure versions are fine
[02:22] <eric__> adam_: try pressing ctrl+0, on a hunch?
[02:22] <sethk> Vaske_Car, if it's ftp, yes.  if it's sftp, no.  I think you are correct, and it is just ftp
[02:23] <sethk> which means it should not be used, generally speaking.
[02:23] <DesolationX> anyone know how i can fix this problem ?
[02:23] <adam_> Dr_willis: thanks, will try
[02:23] <Vaske_Car> sethk, yes FTP uses plain text while SSH and WinSCP does not.
[02:23] <Fujitsu> Or SFTP, which uses SSH as the carrier.
[02:23] <vanRijn_> Fujitsu: ack.  why not?  dependencies?
[02:23] <vanRijn_> Fujitsu: btw, how close is edgy to being released?
[02:23] <vanRijn_> Fujitsu: and is the upgrade path from dapper to edgy pretty smooth?
[02:23] <eric__> My GUI won't accept input from the keyboard, instead it just beeps at me.  It works fine in the login, as well as TTY1, which is what I'm using.  Suggestions?
[02:24] <sethk> Vaske_Car, yes, I know, I just was checking whether "vsftp" mean v sftp, or vs ftp
[02:24] <LjL> DesolationX: try and see if you can reach a console by pressing ctrl+alt+f2. if you can, login and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and tell it to use the VESA driver. then try starting X again using "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[02:24] <sethk> Vaske_Car, by the way, the cygwin tools are a lot better than the win whatever tools.
[02:24] <gleesond> so I'm trying to run this game called cube 2 but it says I need openGL but I don't see any pkg named "OpenGL.lib" can anyone enlighten me
[02:24] <Fujitsu> vanRijn_: Firstly, stuff is compiled against 1.5... Upgrading to 2 is likely to break things. Edgy will be released in the next 24 hours, and the upgrade path is very smooth.
[02:24] <Vaske_Car> vsftp should bd vsftpd
[02:25] <vanRijn_> Fujitsu: ahh, excellent, thanks.  =:)
[02:25] <DesolationX> LjL problem is after that black screen keyboard doesn't respond
[02:25] <downfallat111> are there any major changes expected in edgy from dapper?
[02:26] <Fujitsu> downfallat111: There are new versions of most packages, new artwork, and various under-the-hood changes.
[02:26] <eric__> My GUI won't accept input from the keyboard, instead it just beeps at me.  It works fine in the login, as well as TTY1, which is what I'm using.  Suggestions?
[02:26] <coz_> evening all
[02:26] <Vaske_Car> Is there any work on recovery disk for Ubuntu or something that will let beginer uusers to recover system easy?
[02:26] <LjL> downfallat111: a new init system called upstart instead of sysvinit.
[02:26] <Fujitsu> eric__: Please stop asking so frequently. It's likely nobody here knows if they haven't already answered
[02:26] <coz_> in dapper along with mgp321 i ws able to preview wav files with mouse over. it doesn't seem to work in edgy.. any solutions?
[02:26] <dnite> Just outta curiosity, anyone know if there's a way to 'style' the buttons and text boxes a little nicer in firefox?? The look purdier in windoze... pretty ugly in linux...
[02:26] <eric__> Whoops, it was past the end of my screen.  I thought it was okay to ask again.
[02:26] <DesolationX>  LjL: problem is after that black screen keyboard doesn't respond
[02:27] <LjL> DesolationX, i got that. i just don't know.
[02:27] <nailer> dnite, they just use your gnome theme IIRC - try art.gnome.org
[02:27] <ianmacgregor> eric__: use PageUP and PageDown for scrolling in irssi
[02:27] <nailer> are final, non-RC edgy ISOs on any mirror yet?
[02:27] <eric__> ianmacgregor: yeah, I am - I just don't know how far it compares to my xchat window, at 1280x1024, lol.
[02:27] <ianmacgregor> nailer: I doubt it
[02:27] <KGnome> whats an easy way to set up a ram drive?
[02:27] <dnite> nailer, ok. thank you.
[02:27] <Fujitsu> nailer: No. There will be an announcement when it is released.
[02:28] <ianmacgregor> eric__: I use irssi as my only IRC client and I use 1280x1024, I quite like it over XChat.
[02:28] <DesolationX> there anything i need to enter once the cd loads before i press enter. (sorry newb here)
[02:28] <eric__> ianmacgregor: yeah, well I'm going to cry if I can't get my xchat back.  :((((
[02:28] <DesolationX> *is
[02:28] <KGnome> whats an easy way to set up a ram drive?
[02:29] <eric__> I'm glad I knew about IRSSI at all.
[02:29] <Fujitsu> KGnome: why do you want one?
[02:30] <adnans> W00t!! Ubuntu running as Xen host and guest :)
[02:30] <KGnome> Fujitsu: to set up a small ftp and i dont want tp use a hard drive
[02:30] <KGnome> *to
[02:30] <niall> hi, im lookin to install the new fashplayer in my pc and im finding it difficult
[02:30] <Fujitsu> KGnome: why not?
[02:30] <dou213> !linx
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <bimberi> !flash9 | niall
[02:31] <ubotu> niall: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[02:31] <vanRijn_> um
[02:31] <KGnome> fujitsu: so the server has its own drive # in Computer
[02:31] <squeee> !lynx
[02:31] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK), Opera (Qt), Konqueror (KDE/Qt), Links (terminal-based). HTTP servers: apache2
[02:31] <squeee> !links
[02:31] <squeee> !links2
[02:31] <vanRijn_> suppose it's silly to ask, but I don't suppose there's a ppc version of flash9?
[02:31] <ubotu> links: Character mode WWW browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (dapper), package size 375 kB, installed size 936 kB
[02:31] <niall> aye bimberi
[02:31] <Fujitsu> vanRijn_: No. Thankyou Adobe.
[02:31] <squeee> vanRijn: yep, it's silly... afaik it's not happening
[02:32] <DesolationX> i am at the boot screen of install it says boot:_   is there anything i can enter here to prevent that black screen
[02:32] <vanRijn_> squeee: blah
[02:32] <squeee> vanRijn: yep
[02:32] <eric__> DesolationX: press enter?
[02:32] <KGnome> Fujitsu: something like a dos subst would work to
[02:32] <vanRijn_> Fujitsu: yeah, s/Thank/f***/
[02:32] <phobia> I'm trying to reload the grub bootloader after it was destroyed because of windows. I'm following the directions labaled "Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows I do not understand how to find out my harddisk and boot partition numbers. I did fdisk -l /dev/hda for information like it suggested in "Troubleshooting" and this is the line of 
[02:32] <phobia>  /dev/hda2               1         829     6658911   83  Linux
[02:32] <phobia> Some please help?
[02:32] <phobia> Someone*
[02:33] <DesolationX> eric__: when i do it loads and it says everything is ok then i get a black screen...
[02:33] <KGnome> Fujitsu: any suggestions
[02:33] <jbinder> edgy = superclose
[02:33] <niall> is it easy to install
[02:33] <jbinder> edgy?
[02:33] <d-E-u-S> for a driver installation i need gcc-3.4, how i can get it without internet?
[02:33] <jbinder> niall: is what easy to install
[02:33] <d-E-u-S> is it on the cd ?
[02:34] <dou213> phobia, type only fdisk -l
[02:34] <niall> flashplayer
[02:34] <jbinder> niall: yes, it is easy
[02:34] <dnite> hey nailer, thanks.. i found it.. but where do i throw the new themes to use them??
[02:34] <ianmacgregor> d-E-u-S: Pop in the cd and do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:34] <jbinder> niall: flash 7?
[02:34] <Fujitsu> niall: Install the flashplugin-nonfree package.
[02:34] <j-swim> hey folks, is there any good metacity behaviour add-on app?
[02:34] <vzoric> hi, where can i see when is ubuntu 6.10 going to be out?
[02:34] <niall> yes
[02:34] <jbinder> niall: very easy
[02:34] <phobia> I get the same information
[02:34] <jbinder> hold on
[02:34] <Fujitsu> !edgyfinal | vzoric
[02:34] <ubotu> vzoric: Edgy will be released around October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[02:34] <nailer> dnite, i thingk preferences -> themes or something like that
[02:35] <Fujitsu> j-swim: To do what?
[02:35] <d-E-u-S> and gcc-3.4 is inside the build-essential?
[02:35] <nailer> dnite, then you just pick the theme file
[02:35] <niall> am new with all this
[02:35] <jbinder> niall: for linux i assume?
[02:35] <dnite> all right.. thanks nailer
[02:35] <pettern> anyone installed CS with steam4linux on Dapper?
[02:35] <nailer> np
[02:35] <niall> yes
[02:35] <ianmacgregor> d-E-u-S: Oh, I don't know that. I know 4.0 is
[02:35] <vzoric> Fujitsu, what about what is going to be new in this release?
[02:35] <j-swim> Fujitsu: stuff like remembering what desktop to open certain apps...
[02:35] <dan2> I installed edgy the other day
[02:35] <dan2> great stuff
[02:35] <jbinder> niall: k.. h/o
[02:35] <dou213> phobia, ask your question again, i gotta go...
[02:35] <Fujitsu> vzoric: Ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <eck0> how do i minimize in gnome?
[02:35] <DesolationX> do u think its my monitor?
[02:35] <jbinder> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[02:35] <jbinder> niall: download that
[02:35] <phobia> I'm trying to reload the grub bootloader after it was destroyed because of windows. I'm following the directions labaled "Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows I do not understand how to find out my harddisk and boot partition numbers. I did fdisk -l /dev/hda for information like it suggested in "Troubleshooting" and this is the line of 
[02:35] <phobia>  /dev/hda2               1         829     6658911   83  Linux
[02:36] <Fujitsu> eck0: Click on the minimise button, same as any other window manager or Windows, or OS X.
[02:36] <ianmacgregor> eck0: ALT_F9
[02:36] <niall> am lost already lol
[02:36] <Fujitsu> jbinder: No.
[02:36] <eck0> ok ty
[02:36] <jbinder> Fujitsu: why?
[02:36] <eric__> My GUI won't accept input from the keyboard, instead it just beeps at me.  It works fine in the login, as well as TTY1, which is what I'm using.  Suggestions?
[02:36] <Fujitsu> niall: Open up Synaptic, and find the package flashplugin-nonfree.
[02:36] <KGnome> IS There anything lke a dos subst for linux?????
[02:36] <Fujitsu> jbinder: There is a package.
[02:36] <jbinder> thats the stupid way to do it
[02:36] <KGnome> IS There anything like a dos subst for linux?????
[02:36] <jbinder> doing it manually is the more fun way
[02:36] <preaction> KGnome, don't repeat
[02:36] <Fujitsu> jbinder: That is the SANE way to do it. The package manager exists for a reason.
[02:36] <KGnome> sory typo
[02:36] <phobia> Thank you very much dou214
[02:37] <DesolationX> er1k_: ?
[02:37] <d-E-u-S> can i download the gcc-3.4 from somewhere and copy it to the pc i need it and install it there?
[02:37] <niall> wat do i do now
[02:37] <phobia> 213*
[02:37] <ianmacgregor> jbinder: sudo aptitude :)
[02:37] <jbinder> eric__: GUI is evil
[02:37] <eric__> But I need it.
[02:38] <jbinder> ianmacgregor: MANUAL INSTALLATION PWNS
[02:38] <jbinder> flashplayer is the easiest manual installation ever
[02:38] <bimberi> d-E-u-S: download the gcc-3.4 package via http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and transfer (assuming the pc you want it on has no net connection)
[02:38] <LjL> !caps
[02:38] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:38] <jbinder> just download, extract, and run on simple installer command
[02:38] <Fujitsu> jbinder: The package manager exists for a reason, and should be used in all cases possible.
[02:38] <Fujitsu> jbinder: Please leave if you're going to be like that.
[02:38] <KGnome> h
[02:38] <DesolationX> >.< if everything is ok why does it stop at this point ?
[02:39] <d-E-u-S> bimberi and how to install there then?
[02:39] <KGnome> ??
[02:39] <ianmacgregor> jbinder: The best thing to do is to use the pm whenever possible. it's faster and easier most of the time.
[02:39] <Hikaru79> Is everything still on track for Edgy to be released tomorrow?
[02:39] <jbinder> Fujitsu: plenty of people agree with my, lots of people prefer doing things through a terminal
[02:39] <jbinder> i am one of them
[02:39] <LjL> !ef | Hikaru79
[02:39] <ubotu> Hikaru79: Edgy will be released around October 26th - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[02:39] <bimberi> d-E-u-S: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[02:39] <KGnome> hhh
[02:39] <jbinder> agree with me*
[02:39] <phobia> I'm trying to reload the grub bootloader after it was destroyed because of windows. I'm following the directions labaled "Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows I do not understand how to find out my harddisk and boot partition numbers. I did fdisk -l /dev/hda for information like it suggested in "Troubleshooting" and this is the line of 
[02:39] <phobia>  /dev/hda2               1         829     6658911   83  Linux
[02:39] <Hikaru79> Ah, thank you LjL :)
[02:39] <eric__> Wait, what is today's date?
[02:39] <phobia> Please someone help, I hate to be such a bother.
[02:39] <LjL> eric__: depends.
[02:39] <Hikaru79> I'll assume that ubotu is up-to-date with this.
[02:39] <bimberi> lol, shortened to 'ef' :)
[02:40] <Flannel> jbinder: You can use the package manager via the command line too.
[02:40] <niall> am i supposed to have an application thing up
[02:40] <KGnome> IS There anything like a dos subst for linux, to mount a directory
[02:40] <eck0> anyone know how to minimize in games running with cedega
[02:40] <d-E-u-S> and how i can add the cd drive as source into the sources.list ?
[02:40] <LjL> !ef
[02:40] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[02:40] <Flannel> d-E-u-S: which CD?
[02:40] <r080cy90r> hi
[02:40] <ianmacgregor> d-E-u-S: Did you manually take the cd out of the sources list?
[02:40] <DesolationX> could it be it can't find  my partition?
[02:40] <eric__> That's a 48 hour period of time. ~_~
[02:40] <LjL> bimberi: yeah, i made an alias about 30 seconds after making the factoid itself
[02:40] <Wapster> d-E-u-S: open synaptic ----> sources----> add cdrom.
[02:40] <jbinder> phobia: that's why i make backups of my grub menus before every change
[02:41] <d-E-u-S> in my edgy souces.lsit isnt the cd drive
[02:41] <bimberi> LjL: and no wonder :)
[02:41] <bond200> hi friends
[02:41] <Fujitsu> jbinder: I prefer it as well. But package managers are also usable through the terminal.
[02:41] <gnomefreak> d-E-u-S: join #ubuntu+1 for edgy please
[02:41] <tony_> hello , how can i open Nautilus as root ??
[02:41] <jbinder> tony_: type nautilus?
[02:41] <GIFRATE_> DesolationX:  I had mostly the same problem, try installing from the alternative cd (Its you<re still gonna end up with the black screen) but you<ll have access to a console
[02:41] <njan> tony_, gksudo nautilus
[02:41] <ianmacgregor> tony_: gksudo nautilus
[02:41] <niall> i really dont have a clue wat to do
[02:41] <eric__> My GUI won't accept input from the keyboard, instead it just beeps at me.  It works fine in the login, as well as TTY1, which is what I'm using.  Suggestions?
[02:42] <bond200> alguna persona que sepa como instalar rpm
[02:42] <tony_> Thanks..
[02:42] <niall> sorry for torturing
[02:42] <function1> so, is there no way to edit a screensaver's individual properties?
[02:42] <ianmacgregor> !es | bond200
[02:42] <ubotu> bond200: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:42] <GIFRATE_> then try updating your display drivers
[02:42] <Fujitsu> niall: Open up Synaptic (System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager), and find flashplugin-nonfree in the listing.
[02:42] <jbinder> phobia: you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:42] <bond200> ok
[02:42] <bond200> ciao
[02:42] <KGnome> Giving help on porting windows to linux
[02:42] <jbinder> bond200: hablas ingles?
[02:42] <bond200> a todo s
[02:42] <phobia> I just need to know what the numbers are
[02:42] <r080cy90r> ciao
[02:42] <Dr_willis> KGnome,  thats got to be 'interesting' project.
[02:42] <r080cy90r> bond you are italian???
[02:43] <DesolationX> GIFRATE: how do i get into the consule and update it
[02:43] <phobia> "Type "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub)." I need the harddisk and boot partition numbers
[02:43] <ataliba> some1 can helpme with one wine trick?
[02:43] <animal_> jbinder, them, if you prefer doing all through terminal...why use a Linux distro based on package manager(ubuntu)? maybe another distros would be work more according you philosophy...
[02:43] <r080cy90r> excuse me i have a question
[02:43] <Flannel> phobia: That depends on your set up.  Which harddrive is it? and which partition?
[02:43] <dxman> how do you change the grub file to change the order of my operating systems?
[02:43] <eric__> r080cy90r: just ask it
[02:43] <eric__> !question
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <eric__> !?
[02:44] <phobia> hda2, I'm 99% sure it's the first partition.
[02:44] <function1> how does one edit screensaver properties? eg, there is a GLTest screensaver, but there seems to be no way to edit the text
[02:44] <Dr_willis> dxman,  reorder the order of the 'stanzas' for the menu items.
[02:44] <eric__> ...grr.
[02:44] <function1> er GLText
[02:44] <phobia> It starts at the first sector or whatever
[02:44] <bimberi> eric__: in tty1 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'  to redo keyboard detection
[02:44] <dxman> what do you mean by that
[02:44] <Flannel> phobia: hda2 is the second partition, hda is the primary master (on your IDE cable)
[02:44] <GIFRATE_> DesolationX:  Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[02:44] <janga> !ubotu
[02:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:44] <Dark_L0rd> hello guys
[02:44] <Dark_L0rd> i need some rule that will allow me to make my box, using iptables rules, to force target where it lands when asks for a specific domain
[02:44] <Dark_L0rd> to be more specific, i want when my box does ask for data from for example:   IP1:80 to be redirected automatically and by local rules, to connect to IP2:8080 for example
[02:44] <Flannel> phobia: is it hda2 though? in which case, it'd be (hd0,1) (grub starts at 0, linux starts at 1)
[02:45] <phobia> hda1 is my windows partition, hda2 is my ext linux partition, and hda3 is swap
[02:45] <r080cy90r> i must extract a file in my home/opt/ folder but ubuntu need the root  i'm the only user
[02:45] <phobia> Thank you very much flannel
[02:45] <phobia> I'll try that
[02:45] <Fujitsu> Dark_L0rd: you'd be best of asking elsewhere, I think...
[02:45] <r080cy90r> what i must make???
[02:45] <Fujitsu> r080cy90r: prefix the command with `sudo'
[02:45] <Fujitsu> *off
[02:45] <eric__> bimberi: okay, now what?
[02:45] <DesolationX> GIFRATE:is the alt on this server?
[02:45] <Dark_L0rd> Fujitsu why ???
[02:45] <GIFRATE_> DesolationX:  but I think you have ton install ubuntu using the alternate cd (at least that's what I did) and then find the information on how to set up ATI drivers using apt-get
[02:46] <r080cy90r> can i make it in visual mode???
[02:46] <phobia> Hmm, same error. I'll try mounting the partition as the guide later mentions. Thanks for your help flannel
[02:46] <r080cy90r> non in terminal mode????
[02:46] <bimberi> eric__: once finished, restart X - 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart'
[02:46] <Dr_willis> r080cy90r,  its worth the effort to learn the shell basics
[02:46] <Dr_willis> !bash
[02:46] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:46] <Flannel> !ati | GIFRATE_
[02:46] <ubotu> GIFRATE_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:46] <Fujitsu> r080cy90r: If you press Alt+F2 and run `gksudo nautilus', it'll give you a root file browser.
[02:46] <dxman> Dr_Willis: what did you mean by "Stanza"
[02:46] <danilocesar> Somebody knows the Why anjuta 2.0.2 (alpha version that nothing works well) will be released with Ubuntu EDGY?
[02:47] <r080cy90r> thanks
[02:47] <Dr_willis> dxman,  look at the grub config.. each menu item is in its own 'section/stanza/paragraph' whatever ya want to call it.
[02:47] <kgee> I have an ipod with permissions 700, user is me, and group is admin. No matter what i do, sudo or not, I cannot change this. I want to change the ownership to all users or chmod 777 it so anyone can plug it in and modify it. Ive tried sudo chmod 777, sudo chown users, sudo chown 100, and a couple other variations with no luck. any ideas as to how to get this device to work for all users?
[02:47] <Dr_willis> dxman,   its rather straight forward
[02:47] <dxman> right
[02:47] <GIFRATE_> DesolationX:  http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ at the bottom of the page
[02:47] <KGnome> Giving help on porting windows to linux
[02:47] <mikm[laptop] > danilocesar Edgy is meant to be "edgy" with newer, potentially unstabe stuff
[02:47] <eric__> bimberi: alright, failed to start x server.
[02:47] <Fujitsu> danilocesar: Because it seemed like a good idea at the time, probvably.
[02:47] <Fujitsu> KGnome: Can you please not repeat that so much?
[02:47] <Dr_willis> kgee,  you must set the permissions from the fstab with the umask, and other options NOT chmoding the thing.
[02:47] <mikm[laptop] > danilocesar That's one of the reasons Dapper is LTS.  It's solid as a rock
[02:47] <DesolationX> Thanks all
[02:47] <DesolationX> GIFRATE: thanks
[02:47] <kgee> Dr_willis: thanks, will look into that, brb
[02:48] <DesolationX> Fingers cross lol
[02:48] <GIFRATE_> DesolationX:  good luck
[02:48] <Dr_willis> kgee,  same as if you were mounting a windows fat32 partition
[02:48] <r080cy90r> i try but recived this error """Extraction not performed
[02:48] <r080cy90r> You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/opt""""
[02:48] <InvisiblePinkUni> !edgy
[02:48] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:48] <Dr_willis> kgee,  example fstab entry -------  >>> /dev/sda1 /media/sda1   vfat    defaults,umask=007,gid=46
[02:48] <InvisiblePinkUni> !schedule
[02:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:49] <a3rdparty> I think I accidentally killed my boot partition, can anyone anser some questions?
[02:49] <Fujitsu> r080cy90r: Ah. Try running `gksudo file-roller', the opening the archive from the window that opens up.
[02:49] <ianmacgregor> r080cy90r: Several people have told you how to fix that
[02:49] <Fujitsu> !ask
[02:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:49] <bimberi> eric__: argh :( - Did you mostly accept the defaults during the reconfigure?
[02:49] <GIFRATE_> !help
[02:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:49] <danilocesar> Yes, but did U try to use Anjuta 2.0.2? Its unusable.... This version is not ready to be on any distribution...
[02:49] <tsoler> dabar:
[02:49] <DesolationX> GIFRATE: thanks
[02:49] <Fujitsu> danilocesar: Complaining here won't achieve anything.
[02:49] <a3rdparty> I'm getting "unable to find volume group "Ubuntu""
[02:49] <eric__> bimberi: yes - I just reconfigured again, this time with a success, forgot to select nvidia instead of nv
[02:49] <tsoler> dabar:thanks a lot for all
[02:49] <bimberi> eric__: phew :)
[02:49] <eric__> bimberi: still the same problem, I can log in, but it fails to accept keyboard input after that.
[02:49] <a3rdparty> after I had tried to mount another part of my boot drive partition
[02:49] <Fujitsu> a3rdparty: You are using LVM?
[02:50] <jordanau> okay how do i allow the user "jason" recursive permission in the folder /var/www/ ??
[02:50] <bimberi> eric__: :(
[02:50] <a3rdparty> I'm not sure ...
[02:50] <eyequeue> jordan_, add him to a web group you create
[02:50] <gnomefreak> danilocesar: version 2.0.2-2ubuntu1 of anjuta works fine
[02:50] <eric__> jordanau: chown jason /var/www -R
[02:50] <danilocesar> Fujitsu, Yes, I know that... But I need to know the opinion of others users....
[02:50] <eric__> :d
[02:50] <Flannel> jordanau: you probably don't want to chown.  Add yourself to the www-data group
[02:51] <Flannel> eric__: don't suggest that, it only breaks things.
[02:51] <andrew____> hey
[02:51] <eyequeue> jordan_, then chgrp (not chown) -R /var/www
[02:51] <ianmacgregor> eric__: That won't be a good idea
[02:51] <kgee> Dr_willis: thanks a lot, now do i need to reset anything to make this take effect? Just umount then mount again im assuming?
[02:51] <eyequeue> jordan_, then chgrp -R web /var/www
[02:51] <danilocesar> gnomefreak, I think that you are wrong. Shortcuts, autocomplement, some buttons is not working.... Scintilla crashing... etc etc...
[02:51] <eyequeue> jordan_, then chmod -R g+w /var/www
[02:51] <r080cy90r> fujitsu can we speak in pvt because im italian and here is all confused and i don't understand what i must to make
[02:51] <gnomefreak> danilocesar: i use it daily
[02:52] <gnomefreak> it works just fine here
[02:52] <Dr_willis> kgee,  ya got it.
[02:52] <andresmujica> danilocesar.  it would be nice if you report a bug or a series of bugs reporting that.
[02:52] <eric__> bimberi: any ideas at all?
[02:52] <Fujitsu> r080cy90r: Sure.
[02:52] <jordan_> eyequeue, What?
[02:52] <danilocesar> andresmujica, I  did it today
[02:52] <bimberi> eric__: i'm struggling sorry :/
[02:52] <jordan_> eyequeue, I think you meant to be talking to somebody else.
[02:52] <andresmujica> this way you can left a precedence
[02:53] <eyequeue> jordan_, adduser jason web
[02:53] <cliffd> what is the config file for md/raid mdadm ?
[02:53] <gnomefreak> danilocesar: #ubuntu+1 ffor edgy also dapper didnt have that version
[02:53] <jordanau> eyequeue, perfect thank you
[02:53] <andresmujica> raidtab or mdadm.conf
[02:53] <cliffd> andresmujica: thanks much
[02:53] <jordan_> eyequeue, I have no idea what you are talking about :)
[02:53] <eyequeue> jordanau, not jordan_
[02:53] <niall> does ant1 kno wat the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[02:54] <danilocesar> gnomefreak, Shortcuts to  commend code works on your machine? Autocomplemen (CRTL + SPACE) too? (on edgy)
[02:54] <andresmujica> danilocesar: do you have the bug numbers?
[02:54] <eyequeue> jordanau, np
[02:54] <jordanau> eyequeue, and now i have WinSCP working... eveything is great
[02:54] <danilocesar> andresmujica, yes.. wait a moment
[02:54] <danilocesar> andresmujica, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=anjuta&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[02:55] <eric__> I command that you release edgy right this instant!
[02:55] <LuisMendes> edgy should be out by now!
[02:55] <danilocesar> See the last three bugs reports
[02:55] <eric__> Dun dun dun.  It is a command!  From me!  So you should listen!
[02:55] <eyequeue> LuisMendes, no, in maybe 18h
[02:55] <eyequeue> LuisMendes, not until the 26 is over is it late
[02:55] <jordanau> eyequeue, now how do i make all files invisible except /var/www/ to the web group
[02:55] <niall> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[02:56] <Flannel> niall: did you use source-o-matic?
[02:56] <jordanau> eyequeue, /var/www/ and the /home folder that is...
[02:56] <LuisMendes> eyequeue, 18h? it is usually out in less than 7h
[02:56] <eyequeue> jordanau, you don't want to do that, as www-data runs apache
[02:56] <eric__> My GUI won't accept input from the keyboard, instead it just beeps at me.  It works fine in the login, as well as TTY1, which is what I'm using.  Suggestions?
[02:56] <kgee> Dr_willis: the entire device is under /dev/sda, but has 2 partitions sda1 and sda2, so would i just have use /dev/sda in the fstab? or would i have to specify one/both
[02:56] <niall> i really dont have a clue, some1 else installed linux for me
[02:57] <jordanau> eyequeue, the user can view everything in all of my folders... even my personal /home... i don't like that
[02:57] <eyequeue> jordanau, which user?
[02:57] <jordanau> jason of group web
[02:57] <Dr_willis> kgee,  try sda1 then sda2
[02:58] <Flannel> !easysource | niall, you'll want to use this to recreate your sources.list, theres instructions at the top of the page to add the GPG keys
[02:58] <ubotu> niall, you'll want to use this to recreate your sources.list, theres instructions at the top of the page to add the GPG keys: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:58] <andresmujica> jordanau: sudo chmod 700 /home/*
[02:58] <eyequeue> jordanau, ls -ld /home/you
[02:58] <Dr_willis> kgee,  for a hard drive typt thing - ya would never use just 'sda'
[02:58] <Dr_willis> kgee,  try 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda'
[02:58] <eric__> Yarrrrrrr.  I'm a pirate.
[02:58] <winston> I lost my "screensaver" item in my systems menu. Is there a way to edit that menu to add "screensaver" back in there?
[02:58] <kgee> Dr_willis: that would explain why it didnt work ;)
[02:58] <ianmacgregor> Flannel: Wowsers, You just taught me something new about the bot commands :) Thanks
[02:59] <niall> thanx alot
[02:59] <niall> will try now
[02:59] <jon_> Is there a shipit for xubuntu? I see one for every other dist of ubuntu. Is Xubuntu not supported by Canonical or something?
[02:59] <ianmacgregor> winston: right-click the Applications menu, choose "Edit menus" and alacarte should open.
[02:59] <Flannel> niall: you don't need to recrate your entire sources.list, just make a freecontrib one (so the URL matches yours) then it'll give you the GPG to add
[03:00] <winston> ianmacgregor, thanks
[03:00] <ianmacgregor> winston: np
[03:00] <jordanau> eyequeue, okay he can no longer see my home folder thanks
[03:00] <Flannel> jon_: Xubuntu is.  but there's no shipit for it yet
[03:00] <eric__> My GUI won't accept input from the keyboard, instead it just beeps at me.  It works fine in the login, as well as TTY1, which is what I'm using.  Suggestions?
[03:00] <winston> whoa I just discovered that xirc has the tab auto-complete for nicknames-- cool
[03:00] <eyequeue> np
[03:00] <jon_> Flannel, ah OK. The likelyhood of you yourself knowing is low, but do you think they're considering it?
[03:01] <Flannel> jon_: I'm sure they are.  Kubuntu only got added to shipit in Dapper.
[03:01] <winston> ianmacgregor,  it looks like my "screensaver" menu is not on the list, perhaps it has been deleted? Any ideas on how to get it back?
[03:01] <simtower> ubuntu sucks with scanners
[03:02] <darkgamer20> simtower: really? ubuntu detected mine and it worked on the first try
[03:02] <ianmacgregor> winston: You can add a new menu item for it in alacarte
[03:02] <simtower> consider yourself lucky
[03:02] <Vich> ok
[03:02] <eric__> HAHAHAHAHAH! I FIXED IT.
[03:02] <Vich> this is gonna sound stupid
[03:02] <LjL> !caps
[03:02] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:02] <eric__> Lawl, whoops.
[03:02] <Vich> but I deleted my cdrom
[03:02] <eric__> I'm just excited.
[03:02] <jordanau> eyequeue, is it worth creating a private key or not since this is over openssh ?
[03:02] <Vich> how can I get it back?
[03:02] <picasso> hi.. whats the best way to get firefox 2 on 6.06?
[03:02] <winston> ianmacgregor,  I dont see an option to add those that are not already listed
[03:02] <Vich> (insert hysterical laughter here)
[03:03] <eyequeue> jordanau, i would, but what context is this in?
[03:03] <eric__> It turned out to be that somehow, it was only accepting keys that had been pressed for more than 300ms
[03:03] <ianmacgregor> winston: You have to add new items manually.. it's not hard.
[03:03] <eric__> Thanks for everyone's help.
[03:03] <eric__> :)
[03:03] <Flannel> !firefox | picasso, use the first link, same steps, different version.
[03:03] <ubotu> picasso, use the first link, same steps, different version.: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:03] <jordanau> eyequeue, he and i are going to make a website and i simply want us both to have access to my LAMP server
[03:03] <andresmujica> picasso download it and put it on /opt/firefox, then make a symlink
[03:03] <andresmujica> that's the less intrusive one.
[03:03] <winston> ianmacgregor, i've no clue on how to add it, the menu layout does not appear intuitive
[03:03] <Vich> fine, I'll figure it out myself
[03:04] <picasso> andresmujica: where do you link /opt to
[03:04] <picasso> i have no /opt
[03:04] <Deus42> Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to set the runlevel at boot in edgy. Does anyone have any ideas to point me in the right direction?
[03:04] <Crescendo> Hehehe, and now I have my XChat back.
[03:04] <picasso> /usr/opt ?
[03:04] <eyequeue> jordanau, jey-based auth is a bit safer, but it's up to you, the other works as well
[03:04] <Crescendo> Thanks everyone again (eric___ ))
[03:04] <jordanau> picasso, you can also wait a couple of days for 6.10 to be released, it is on there
[03:04] <picasso> /usr/local/opt ?
[03:04] <eyequeue> jordanau, key-
[03:04] <andresmujica> no /opt
[03:04] <andresmujica> /opt
[03:04] <picasso> i have no /opt
[03:04] <Flannel> Vich: remounting it will probably work.  What did you delete?  probably just the desktop icon? (does removing/reinserting the disk put it back?)
[03:04] <ianmacgregor> winston: Go to the menu you want to add to, then click File -> New Entry and fille in the blanks.
[03:04] <jordanau> eyequeue, again thanks
[03:05] <picasso> which partition should /opt be linked to
[03:05] <picasso> im guessing /usr ?
[03:05] <picasso> /opt -> /usr/opt or /usr/local/opt
[03:05] <eyequeue> Deus42, runlevels 2 3 4 5 are identical in debian, which basically ignores such
[03:06] <picasso> oh haha jk
[03:06] <picasso> i do have /opt.. forgot i was checking on a freebsd shell
[03:06] <winston> ianmacgregor, thats the prob, I dont have any file-- new entry options in my menu
[03:06] <picasso> dustin_:
[03:06] <d-E-u-S> i will install the gcc-3.4 but for this i need the libc6 he says, when i install the .deb libc6 comes an error
[03:06] <d-E-u-S> /bin/sh: /lib/libc.so.6: version "GLIB_2.4" not found (requred by /bin/sh)
[03:06] <Pabloooo> hi i need urgent help with a ghost image from a ubuntu server, the hard disk died and now iver replaced it with a new one
[03:06] <winston> ianmacgregor, in the menu editor there's no right click possible and the help is disabled
[03:07] <eyequeue> jordanau, np
[03:07] <Pabloooo> but when i boot the server it says "grub" and doenst boot
[03:07] <winston> ianmacgregor,  i found a section called screen and it seems to refer to the screensaver although its already checked and I still dont see it in my menus hmm
[03:07] <ianmacgregor> winston: Are you in the app called alacarte?
[03:08] <ianmacgregor> winston: The title bar says "Alacarte Menu Editor"
[03:08] <winston> ianmacgregor,  i dont think so, i have something called menu editor that pops up when i right click on the menus in the upper left as you said
[03:08] <winston> ianmacgregor, mine just says edit menus
[03:09] <ianmacgregor> winston: Which distro/version are you in?
[03:09] <winston> dapper
[03:09] <ianmacgregor> winston: Right-click the Applications menu *button*, choose Edit Menus from that and alacarte will open for you to edit the menus
[03:09] <suddse> Hello! I've noticed over the time that my GNOME has started up successively slower. ANY HELP?!?! I mean, any suggestions on making it fast again? : )
[03:11] <d-E-u-S> i will install the gcc-3.4 but for this i need the libc6 he says, when i install the .deb libc6 comes an error
[03:11] <d-E-u-S> /bin/sh: /lib/libc.so.6: version "GLIB_2.4" not found (requred by /bin/sh)
[03:11] <winston> ianmacgregor, yeah thats where i was, i still dont see screensaver, only something called screen and a sub menu called saver
[03:12] <winston> ianmacgregor, they are both already checked in the menu editor yet i dont see the in sytems menu
[03:13] <Alakazamz0r> !edgy
[03:13] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:13] <Deus42> thanks ubotu
[03:13] <ianmacgregor> winston: Go to the bottom of the left pane, you'll see Administration and Preferences, click one of those two and then click File -> New Entry. this will allow you to create a new menu item in the menu you clicked in the left pane.
[03:14] <azureal> does anyone happen to know where I can get the courier font?
[03:14] <winston> ian I found it... dont ask me why but the screensaver is located in Applications/Debian/screen/save is that normal?
[03:14] <azureal> preferably as few packages as possible
[03:14] <winston> ianmacgregor,  I found it... dont ask me why but the screensaver is located in Applications/Debian/screen/save is that normal?
[03:14] <ianmacgregor> winston: I don't have the debian menus, so I can't say whether or not it's normal
[03:15] <grout> how can i update the locate db?
[03:15] <simtower> heh i am going back to windows
[03:15] <eyequeue> grout, sudo updatedb
[03:15] <ianmacgregor> winston: I *can* tell you that it doesn't come that way out-of-the-box
[03:15] <eyequeue> grout, sudo update-slocatedb  if you have slocate
[03:16] <winston> ianmacgregor,  oh well thanks for the info-- I guess this solves my problem even thought its somewhat of a mystery
[03:16] <ianmacgregor> eyequeue: sudo updatedb
[03:16] <h3htimo> simtower, why are you going back to windows??
[03:16] <winston> Is there a BIG difference with the Edgy upgrade?
[03:17] <simtower> h3htimo, too much work to get stuff working under ubuntu
[03:17] <winston> I'm updating both my PC and my Powerbook (ubuntu onn my powerbook G3 did not run well )
[03:18] <simtower> scanner, printer, laptop special features... so many hours i will never get back
[03:18] <h3htimo> simtower, yeah, but u will appreciate your system much more when ur done
[03:19] <simtower> i will settle with something that works correctly without wasting my time
[03:19] <dnite> hm. well.. it apears that firefox itself uses your gtk theme to style it's 'widgets' .. but any widgets in html get a nice and ugly .. non-theme.. anyone know of a way to fix this?? It's not a huge deal, but i'd really love to be able to fix this...
[03:19] <jvai> h3htimo: sooo tru...
[03:20] <DigitalNinja> I'm trying to get a video card working
[03:20] <jordan_> DigitalNinja, What kind?
[03:20] <RaV|Strangler> ok so the alt cd worked
[03:20] <RaV|Strangler> thanks
[03:20] -dean703:#ubuntu- asdf
[03:20] <h3htimo> jvai, i finally got my sound working and i wont be back to windows for a while
[03:20] <DigitalNinja> geforce nx7600
[03:20] <Vich> is the problem with Gaim crashing (seg fault) in the latest Ubuntu a known problem?
[03:20] <Vich> the only solution I've read is to upgrade Gaim
[03:21] <AfterDeath> oh wtf
[03:21] <RaV|Strangler> why wont it automatically connect to the wireless network
[03:21] <Vich> lol
[03:21] <AfterDeath> omt
[03:21] <Vich> I had so much trouble getting my computer to connect to the wireless network
[03:21] <DigitalNinja> jordan_: I get the following in my logs when booting: pcie_portdrv_probe->Dev[02fb:10de]  has invalid IRQ. Check vendor BIOS
[03:21] <Vich> :S
[03:21] <RaV|Strangler> :-(
[03:21] <cartufer> rav, cause there could be hidden or other networks
[03:21] <vzoric> hi are those http://www.ubuntu.com/news/EdgyReleaseCandidate full releases of 6.10 ?
[03:21] <jvai> i hear u, i just upgraded to dapper last nyte from hoary, & java, works, & dvd play is less jumpy
[03:21] <RaV|Strangler> did you ever get it connected?
[03:21] <RaV|Strangler> my network it open
[03:21] <jordan_> DigitalNinja, Are you using the proprietary drivers?
[03:22] <speedy> edgy going to be released today?
[03:22] <Flannel> !ef
[03:22] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[03:22] <DigitalNinja> jordan_: Yup
[03:22] <marthy> yeah it looks like it
[03:22] <marthy> yay EDGY!
[03:22] <ashzilla> WHen does Edgy come out?
[03:22] <aztektum> it's out
[03:22] <aztektum> google it
[03:22] <vzoric> Flannel, and today we are? 26th !
[03:22] <DigitalNinja> jordan_: I'm using the card now. However, if I play a 3D game it locks up
[03:22] <LjL> !ef | ashzilla
[03:22] <ubotu> ashzilla: Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[03:22] <marthy> today/tomorrow depending when you are
[03:22] <Flannel> vzoric: read the rest of the factoid
[03:22] <marthy> *where
[03:22] <phire_mIRC> I just can't wait
[03:22] <LjL> aztektum: no, it's not
[03:23] <aztektum> yeh i know
[03:23] <RaV|Strangler> vich how did you get it connected
[03:23] <jvai> will edgy be a smooth upgrade from dapper? not like from hoary to breezy?
[03:23] <vzoric> Flannel, then what is this on that url which i gave you
[03:23] <jordan_> DigitalNinja, I don't know to be honest, mabe somebody else can help
[03:23] <Flannel> jvai: you can upgrade with update-manager, painlessly (assuming everything goes well), yes.
[03:24] <Flannel> vzoric: those are release candidates, not finals.
[03:24] <Kawaii-Panda> jvai: i doubt that. i had to delete my old dapper partition just to install edgy beta. T_T
[03:24] <vzoric> Flannel, ahh ok, ty
[03:24] <azureal> yea, edgy is not out..
[03:24] <jvai> yeea, i hope using easyubuntu didnt add anything that may break during the upgrade to edgy
[03:24] <dustin> does anyone know if its possible to switch between metacity and beryl on the command line?
[03:24] <RaV|Strangler> can anyone share some insight on how I can get connected to my wireless network
[03:25] <azureal> er... easyubuntu is just what... codecs? lol
[03:25] <Flannel> RaV|Strangler: you try the wireless howto?
[03:25] <RaV|Strangler> where's that?
[03:25] <d-E-u-S> gn8
[03:25] <RaV|Strangler> ubuntu?
[03:25] <Flannel> !wireless
[03:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:25] <jvai> yea i think @ azureal
[03:25] <RaV|Strangler> thank you
[03:25] <vzoric> Flannel, do you know if i ship free cds do i need to pay shipment or its everything free?
[03:25] <Flannel> dustin: yes.  As to how, I have no idea.
[03:25] <DigitalNinja> jordan_: thanks
[03:26] <dustin> hmm ok
[03:26] <Flannel> vzoric: what? you mean shipit?  everything is free.
[03:26] <reiki> so ... does edgey have built-in compiz-like visual toys?
[03:26] <Flannel> dustin: you might try #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl
[03:26] <tempted> reiki:  yes
[03:26] <dustin> yea beryl is dead, ill try the other =) thanks
[03:26] <vzoric> Flannel, becouse it sounds pretty funny, nothing is free today :D
[03:26] <RaV|Strangler> I have to use another computer?
[03:26] <dustin> (ts just quiet i mean)
[03:26] <jordan_> reiki, sort of...
[03:26] <azureal> jvai, codecs will change how you view your video or listen to your audio, but they def. should not cause anything to break
[03:26] <Fujitsu> tempted: No...
[03:26] <jvai> kawwaii as is, would u use edgy in a work environment?
[03:26] <Flannel> reiki: they're not enabled by defult
[03:26] <azureal> anything system-related.
[03:26] <reiki> tempted: I was all happy cause I installed edgey into a VM on my 6.06 host.... forgot it uses the VM display driver :)
[03:27] <jvai> azureal.. i'll see soon...
[03:27] <nailer> reiki, hehe
[03:27] <tempted> reiki: don't know if you can do that... never tried
[03:27] <Kawaii-Panda> jvai: yeah - thats why i installed it. it looks so cool, and it hadnt broken yet for me.
[03:27] <azureal> that's actually one of the next things i need to do... play w/ easyubuntu =P
[03:27] <jvai> is it a fastr boot up/ shut down kawaii
[03:28] <Kawaii-Panda> yep
[03:28] <jvai> wow
[03:28] <Kawaii-Panda> the splash screen looks bad now though.
[03:28] <Kawaii-Panda> they changed it to silver.
[03:29] <jvai> i just got dapper in this box last nyte.... from hoary... it's more stable like
[03:29] <reiki> well... time for bed. I'll upgrade after work tomorrow and try to pop in here during the day at work to ask my dumb questions. :)
[03:29] <jvai> azureal.. easyubuntu is muuuch easier than bfore....
[03:30] <jvai> i got everything working on this t40
[03:30] <Fujitsu> Kawaii-Panda: Which splash screen are you referring to?
[03:30] <azureal> oh, i know.  i just need to spend a few minutes doing other things first.
[03:30] <Kawaii-Panda> the updated one.
[03:30] <azureal> like obtaining a font that's sort of like courier
[03:30] <Kawaii-Panda> the beta's original was still the brown splash.
[03:31] <Kawaii-Panda> *beta's original splash*
[03:31] <jvai> ok uall STARBUCK'S about to kick me out.. it's almost 10pm... see uall when i get home.
[03:32] <Fujitsu> Kawaii-Panda: They reverted to the Dapper artwork a while ago..
[03:32] <Kawaii-Panda> i dont know, fujitsu, but my splash screen just changed like that after an update notification.
[03:32] <InnerFIRE> does anyone use ekiga?
[03:33] <tony_> dose anyone knows how to install GD for PHP ???
[03:33] <Kawaii-Panda> the update also gave me some new screensavers, icons and a gdm theme along with it.
[03:33] <Fujitsu> tony_: Install php5-gd
[03:33] <tony_> THANKS
[03:35] <tony_> do i have to reboot inorder for php5-gd to take effect ??
[03:36] <dabaR> !hi
[03:36] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:36] <dibblego> why does my notebook sometimes never return from Suspend or sometimes when it does, a window will not open?
[03:37] <Fujitsu> tony_: No. Are you using Apache?
[03:37] <Tatey> !edgy
[03:37] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:37] <dabaR> dibblego: "a" window?
[03:37] <treedreamer> hey,everyone,is ubuntu edgy out ?
[03:37] <tony_> yes
[03:37] <Fujitsu> !edgyfinal
[03:37] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[03:37] <Fujitsu> tony_: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[03:37] <Fujitsu> tony_: That should fix it.
[03:37] <tony_> thanks will try now
[03:37] <dibblego> dabaR, yes, every time I try to open an application, the window never eventuates ("Starting application...")
[03:38] <specialbuddy> how do I find out how much space I left on my harddrive
[03:38] <tony_> Thanks, that worked well.
[03:38] <ehazlett> @specialbuddy df -h
[03:38] <dabaR> dibblego: maybe it does not support that suspend or sleep or whatever, did you look at its model's hardwaresupport wiki site?
[03:39] <dibblego> dabaR, nup :) I will
[03:39] <Fujitsu> tony_: no problem.
[03:39] <dabaR> dibblego: post the link here
[03:39] <specialbuddy> thanks
[03:39] <ehazlett> np
[03:39] <dibblego> dabaR, the link to what?
[03:40] <dabaR> to the wiki page for the laptop
[03:40] <dibblego> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell
[03:41] <sorush20> !edgy
[03:41] <dabaR> dibblego: which one?
[03:41] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:41] <dibblego> dabaR, Inspiron 6400
[03:41] <sorush20> is edgy out/
[03:42] <dabaR> ubotu, no edgy is read the topic, or go to #ubuntu+1
[03:42] <iratsu_> !schedule
[03:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:43] <kupesoft> What time can we expect the edgy release?
[03:43] <kupesoft> GMT, that is
[03:43] <ajmitch> kupesoft: when it's ready
[03:43] <sorush20> how can I opne .mdi files?
[03:43] <Fujitsu> !edgy
[03:43] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:44] <Fujitsu> !edgyfinal
[03:44] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[03:44] <Fujitsu> That's better.
[03:44] <kupesoft> >;
[03:44] <kupesoft> THEY SHOULD KNOW.  I'M ANXIOUS!
[03:44] <Fujitsu> !caps
[03:44] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:44] <sethk> kupesoft, you should always wait _at least_ two weeks after a release, not counting the hours.
[03:44] <sethk> kupesoft, what difference will edgy make to you?
[03:44] <laserline> what's the chmod command to chmod all my files and folders within a folder to 777
[03:44] <bimberi> Fujitsu: there's also an !ef alias :)
[03:44] <kupesoft> Philosphical difference,
[03:44] <Noah0504> I need a RSS aggregator that can download files embedded in the feed.  For example, Revision3 has vidcast feeds...
[03:45] <redcard> Not much of one, kupesoft
[03:45] <Kawaii-Panda> kupetsoft: dont forget the faster boot times
[03:45] <Fujitsu> laserline: chmod -R 777 whatever
[03:45] <sethk> laserline, you shouldn't use numbers.  chmod -R changes a directory and all its files
[03:45] <kupesoft> I need php5.1.6-cli
[03:45] <kupesoft> and python2.5
[03:45] <Fujitsu> sethk: Why not?
[03:45] <Kawaii-Panda> the livecd booted like thunder compared to the last one (about 15x faster, wild guess)
[03:45] <sethk> Fujitsu, because there are always issues with a new release.  let other people be the test animals
[03:45] <pluto_> Need some help with ISA sound card.. Please help.
[03:45] <sethk> kupesoft, you don't have to upgrade the entire distro just to get those two things
[03:45] <redcard> sethk: Personally, I'm liking it.
[03:45] <Fujitsu> sethk: I mean about not using numbers :P
[03:45] <laserline> sethk: what do you mean I shouldn't use numbers?
[03:46] <sethk> Fujitsu, oh, very bad practice.  error prone.  use the symbols, that's what they are for
[03:46] <sethk> laserline, a+rwx, for example
[03:46] <Fujitsu> I'd say symbols are more error prone.
[03:46] <sethk> Fujitsu, you'd be wrnog
[03:46] <sethk> wrong
[03:46] <Fujitsu> Easier to get 3 characters right than a lot more.
[03:46] <sethk> Fujitsu, not the typing, the calculating.
[03:47] <redcard> But what if I want rw for only user, but x for all three, sethk?
[03:47] <sethk> Fujitsu, one of the core principles of software engineering.  never use numbers
[03:47] <laserline> sethk: I'm still kinda new to Ubuntu... is there a doc that explains all these commands... chmod --help didn't really *help* that much :)
[03:47] <sethk> redcard, u+rw,a+x
[03:47] <Fujitsu> laserline: man chmod will be better, most likely.
[03:47] <ianmacgregor> redcard: chmod 755 file
[03:47] <dabaR> sethk: that is way mmore error prone...
[03:47] <redcard> sethk: But what if I'm such a pro that I automatically know what that is numerically?
[03:48] <specialbuddy> does anyone here have a good recommendation for a gaming laptop?
[03:48] <sethk> redcard, then you are deceiving yourself
[03:48] <redcard> sethk: No.  I think you're deceiving people.
[03:48] <specialbuddy> it might be off topic but I was thinking about getting a laptop
[03:48] <dabaR> redcard: ya, probably deceiving them
[03:48] <sethk> redcard, not at all.  go to any uni, ask any professor
[03:48] <Fujitsu> specialbuddy: It is offtopic, maybe try -offtopic.
[03:49] <redcard> Do it whatever way works best.  Understand that numerically is the standard, and that any other method might not be standard
[03:49] <laserline> specialbuddy: doesn't system76.com sell laptops?  Don't know howt hey are for games, but if I remember correctly the graphics card seemed to be decent
[03:49] <Fujitsu> sethk: I find the numbers vastly preferable. Quicker to type, more sensible, more definite.
[03:49] <sethk> Fujitsu, good thing you aren't working for me, I simply won't allow it.
[03:49] <specialbuddy> thanks laserline
[03:49] <ianmacgregor> Fujitsu: I agree
[03:49] <specialbuddy> I'll check it out
[03:49] <Fujitsu> sethk: You won't allow people to use a more concise, sensible form of a command?
[03:49] <redcard> sethk: I advise you to check out the code, then :)  It converts all those u+rw's and such to numbers.
[03:49] <redcard> And it always has :)
[03:49] <sethk> Fujitsu, absolutely not, when it is error prone.
[03:49] <sethk> redcard, of course it does
[03:50] <sethk> redcard, that's the entire point
[03:50] <sethk> redcard, you don't get it at _all_
[03:50] <Fujitsu> sethk: It is not error prone if you know what you're doing.
[03:50] <sethk> redcard, the program will convert it correctly.  that's why you use symbols
[03:50] <redcard> sethk: Oh.. so now you're insulting the intelligence of someone you've NEVER met.
[03:50] <sethk> Fujitsu, simply not true.
[03:50] <sethk> redcard, has nothing to do with intelligence
[03:50] <redcard> sethk: Then you're calling me ignorant?
[03:50] <sethk> redcard, no, just wrong
[03:51] <sethk> redcard, but that's ok, it's very common with younger sys admins.  they learn, eventually
[03:51] <redcard> sethk: You're cute.  How long have you been doing the linux thing?
[03:51] <dabaR> specialbuddy: check out the hardware support pages on the wiki
[03:51] <tritium> sethk: no, not any professor, only professors in C.S.
[03:51] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to find out what chipset my wireless card uses?
[03:51] <redcard> You sound very new at it.
[03:51] <ianmacgregor> Ok, let's all just use that which works for each of us. OK? This is not the palce to argue which is right or wrong.
[03:51] <sethk> redcard, well, I've been doing unix for about 35 years
[03:51] <sethk> redcard, linux hasn't been around that long, of course,
[03:51] <tritium> redcard, sethk: take it to -offtopic, please
[03:51] <redcard> Then you're an idiot if you haven't learned that unix prides itself on having multiple ways to do things.  You're either a liar, or an idiot, and neither are worth time.  Final answer, do it whatever way works
[03:51] <specialbuddy> dabaR, on the system76 page?
[03:52] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to find out what chipset my wireless card uses?
[03:52] <LjL> !language | redcard
[03:52] <ubotu> redcard: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:52] <dibblego> SpudDogg, lspci
[03:52] <sethk> redcard, I have not insulted anyone, and it would really be best if you would restrain yourself.
[03:52] <Kawaii-Panda> its a matter of choice really, the numbers are faster to type and good when you are in a hurry, while the letters are easier to remember for beginners and preferable when you havent think of the number combinations first.
[03:52] <Crescendo> Is there a version of Ubuntu WITHOUT the LiveCD?
[03:52] <LjL> !alternate | Crescendo
[03:52] <ubotu> Crescendo: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:52] <sethk> Crescendo, there is the alternate install cd
[03:53] <dabaR> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:53] <dabaR> dibblego: looks like edgy has support for it.
[03:53] <dabaR> Fujitsu: buying a laptop to install ubuntu on it is offtopic?
[03:53] <dabaR> why is this channel so quiet few hours before edgy is released?
[03:53] <sethk> Crescendo, the previous version had the install separate from the live cd
[03:53] <Crescendo> Link to the Alternate?
[03:53] <Crescendo> Looking for the Dapper Version.
[03:53] <Fujitsu> dabaR, I believe so, it isn't Ubuntu support.
[03:53] <sethk> Crescendo, same places that have the others
[03:53] <LjL> Crescendo: same page as the main cd
[03:53] <redcard> dabaR: Because it's not a few hours shy of release ;)
[03:53] <Kawaii-Panda> dabaR: its called the quiet before the storm :)
[03:53] <dabaR> I was lagging...
[03:53] <sethk> Crescendo, there are three, server, live, and alternate
[03:53] <redcard> it could be any time zone :)
[03:53] <specialbuddy> edgy is being released?
[03:53] <dabaR> 5 mins.
[03:53] <LjL> yes, there's a bit of lag around
[03:53] <dabaR> so I was like, wth...
[03:54] <sethk> LjL, ther   e     i    s   ?
[03:54] <LjL> sethk, please remind me to tell you "yes" in about 10 minutes
[03:54] <ianmacgregor> LjL: lol
[03:55] <specialbuddy> is edgy going to be worth getting?
[03:55] <redcard> specialbuddy: Depends on what you want :)
[03:55] <specialbuddy> what is it going to have that is needed?
[03:55] <Fujitsu> specialbuddy: No. It's completely useless, that's why it's being released and there have been thousands of volunteer-hours spent on it.
[03:55] <redcard> specialbuddy: Just an upgrade :)
[03:56] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know what to look for in the lspci list to find out my wireless card's chipset?  All i see is intel, blah blah.  there is no name i reognize.
[03:56] <specialbuddy> why did they spend so much time on something useless Fujitsu
[03:56] <sethk> SpudDogg, you can put it on the paste site, and we can tell you.  usually the manufacturer and the model is all you need
[03:56] <Kawaii-Panda> specialbuddy: the faster bootup might be enough to get you to upgrade.
[03:56] <LeoStewart> Could someone tell me what I will need to do to dist upgrade?
[03:57] <redcard> There are a lot of things under the hood for Edgy.
[03:57] <Kawaii-Panda> and the fact that you get better upgraded, software
[03:57] <Kawaii-Panda> and firefox 2.0
[03:57] <dabaR> !upgrade
[03:57] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:57] <specialbuddy> it's going to have firefox 2
[03:57] <specialbuddy> nice
[03:57] <SpudDogg> sethk, all it says is ' Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 1092 (rev 02)'
[03:57] <LeoStewart> cheers, will take a look.
[03:57] <sethk> specialbuddy, releases happen periodically.  with the amount of software in a large distro, there are frequent updates to many things.
[03:57] <specialbuddy> so edgy is coming out tonight?
[03:57] <r080cy90r> what string i must insert in fstab file for have the permission for writing on my /opt/ mount point?????
[03:57] <SpudDogg> !pastebin
[03:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:57] <aBiNg> yeah
[03:57] <sethk> SpudDogg, I'll look that up for you, hold on, but that looks like a normal, not wireless, ethernet.
[03:57] <redcard> Tho firefox 2 doesn't have much that's really drawing me to it
[03:57] <sethk> SpudDogg, but let me check it.
[03:58] <sethk> redcard, some of the extensions I like aren't available for ff 2 yet, also.
[03:58] <Kawaii-Panda> redcard: it has lots. check out their website www.getfirefox.com
[03:58] <r080cy90r> hei there is someone who can give me hand????
[03:58] <zissan> hello i am waiting for ubuntu 6.10
[03:58] <redcard> I have, Kawaii-Panda .. I just haven't found things I like :P
[03:58] <dabaR> specialbuddy: tomorrow if you are in n.a.
[03:58] <Kawaii-Panda> im initially attracted to the search bar and the phishing filter
[03:59] <Kawaii-Panda> the new search bar is very maneuverable.
[03:59] <r080cy90r> pleaz
[03:59] <sethk> SpudDogg, that's the PRO/100 VE Network controller
[03:59] <redcard> Kawaii-Panda: I guess I don't know what that means.
[03:59] <sethk> Kawaii-Panda, the filter is definitely interesting
[03:59] <r080cy90r> i become crazy pleaz
[03:59] <blazemonger> how much longer until edgy is released
[03:59] <specialbuddy> n. a.?
[03:59] <dabaR> r080cy90r: nice
[04:00] <r080cy90r> what string i must insert for have the permission for writing on my /opt/ mount point?????
[04:00] <Kawaii-Panda> and its based off the newer version of the mozilla engine(gecko) which means it's faster
[04:00] <dabaR> r080cy90r: insert where?
[04:00] <r080cy90r> if you know dabaR
[04:00] <SpudDogg> sethk, its a long list, but here is the complete.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28365/
[04:00] <dabaR> specialbuddy: north america
[04:00] <r080cy90r> in the fstab file
[04:00] <LeoStewart> I'm sure this question has been asked a lot tonight, but does anyone know when Edgy is supposed to be released?  As in, how many hours?
[04:00] <sethk> SpudDogg, I found the ethernet ID for you already.
[04:00] <specialbuddy> thats what I thought
[04:01] <bimberi> LeoStewart: no
[04:01] <Kawaii-Panda> the search bar is the little box you see in the top right corner, it kind of searches sites you select automatically with whatever you type there. in the new bar, you can actually edit the sites in there and arrange them however you like.
[04:01] <dabaR> r080cy90r: what are you mounting in /opt? A windows partition or what?
[04:01] <redcard> Kawaii-Panda: Well, most of the "new features" were already present in Firefox 1.5 or were easily added with extensions, I guess..
[04:01] <sethk> SpudDogg, or do you have both wired and wireless, and aren't sure which is which?
[04:01] <SpudDogg> sethk, i need to know what chipset the internal wireless is using
[04:01] <LeoStewart> bimberi: alright, thanks.
[04:01] <blazemonger> LeoStewart:my birthday is on the day ubuntu edgy is released
[04:01] <sethk> SpudDogg, ok
[04:01] <dabaR> r080cy90r: and post your fstab to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:01] <redcard> Kawaii-Panda: You could do that before..
[04:01] <SpudDogg> sethk, thank you for the help, by the way
[04:01] <r080cy90r> no i must put inside some files because i can't have the permission
[04:01] <LeoStewart> blazemonger: that's not really an answer to my question, but happy birthday all the same! :D
[04:01] <dabaR> r080cy90r: ya, I thought so
[04:02] <blazemonger> LeoStewat:i'm 34..heh..it's crazy how Ubuntu got famous so quick
[04:02] <Artemis3> my bday was yesterday T_T
[04:02] <r080cy90r> excuse me i'm italian can you let me understand in easy english
[04:02] <blazemonger> even a friend of mine that used to say "Linux sucks" he's even impressed with Ubuntu
[04:02] <Kawaii-Panda> yeah, i know. but i like it better now.
[04:02] <J_P> hi all
[04:03] <LeoStewart> blazemonger: yeah, I have no idea what convinced me to try Linux, but I'm definitely glad I did.
[04:03] <SpudDogg> sethk, sorry man, that list is in there twice
[04:03] <sethk> SpudDogg, the intel 1092 is definitely the wired interface.
[04:03] <r080cy90r> mi opt is only a piece of ext3 hd ... where i install my ubuntu dist
[04:03] <Kawaii-Panda> mostly because of the speedups, and the fact that i only need to install only 1 extension to suit my needs.
[04:03] <Kawaii-Panda> instead of the 5 i used ion 1.5
[04:03] <blazemonger> Leone:my friend is switching to it to contribute midi sequencing software to the open source world
[04:03] <J_P> today is release of ubuntu 6.10 right ?
[04:03] <redcard> Kawaii-Panda: They didn't fix the memleak issue tho
[04:03] <dabaR> J_P: depends on where you are in the world
[04:03] <dob1> hi
[04:04] <J_P> dabaR: heheeh brazil
[04:04] <bimberi> J_P: if 'today' for you is Oct 26 then yes
[04:04] <Leone> what blazemonger
[04:04] <dob1> is easyubuntu a part of ubuntu or an external project ?
[04:04] <sethk> SpudDogg, the wireless is Intel 3945ABG
[04:04] <dabaR> Wed Oct 25 21:14:32 CDT 2006
[04:04] <J_P> yes 26
[04:04] <bimberi> dob1: external
[04:04] <r080cy90r> dabaR???
[04:04] <SpudDogg> sethk, yea i just found that...i'll google around
[04:04] <Kawaii-Panda> redcard: hmmm... probably never gonna be fixed. anyway, epiphany and other browsers are always around for low-memory systems.
[04:04] <SpudDogg> sethk, thank you for the help man!
[04:04] <sethk> SpudDogg, fairly new intel wireless chip.
[04:04] <J_P> well, but in large part of the world is 26 today, but ubuntu page yet are 6.0.6
[04:04] <dob1> bimberi: it will install deb package using the script?
[04:04] <dabaR> r080cy90r: mount it with the -ousers flag
[04:04] <sethk> SpudDogg, I think it's backward compatible with earlier intel, but don't quote me.
[04:04] <redcard> Epiphany actually uses the same gecko engine firefox does :)
[04:04] <bimberi> dob1: idk sorry, i've never used it
[04:05] <r080cy90r> can we speak in pvt im goin crazy here!!!!!
[04:05] <dob1> ok :)
[04:05] <redcard> So it meets my purpose.   I wish that browsers would stop trying to do RSS tho
[04:05] <dabaR> r080cy90r: or show us what your fstab file looks like, we will edit it for you to be proper, you can paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org. Relax
[04:06] <dabaR> !pm
[04:06] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[04:06] <sethk> redcard, why?  you don't need to use the RSS
[04:06] <SpudDogg> sethk, ok, i got it now.   for some reason, i assumed that would be using ralink, atheros, broadcom, etc...
[04:06] <sethk> SpudDogg, they are cheaper chips, so more common.
[04:06] <r080cy90r> ok now i paste in on that url
[04:06] <Kawaii-Panda> redcard: actually i like the rss integration, although i never use it, i redirect firefox rss i like to my bloglines account.
[04:06] <SpudDogg> sethk, the intel is cheaper?
[04:06] <sethk> SpudDogg, no, more expensive
[04:06] <redcard> Kawaii-Panda: Yeah.. that could work.
[04:06] <sethk> SpudDogg, that's why you see more of the atheros, etc.
[04:07] <dabaR> paste the URL of the page your paste is on here, r080cy90r
[04:07] <r080cy90r> i don't understand
[04:07] <Kawaii-Panda> it should. bloglines made an extension to do that same day as 2.0 was released.
[04:07] <SpudDogg> sethk, am i wrong in thinking that the atheros cards are the best?  i know atheros is usually the best supported in linux.  also, do you know if the intel can be used for things like packet injection?
[04:08] <LeoStewart> After looking at the Ubuntu Wiki, could someone tell me the difference between "Upgrading using Update Manager" and "Upgrading using apt-get" ?
[04:08] <sethk> SpudDogg, I haven't used that particular intel chip, but the other intel chips can be used for injection and I'm sure this one can also.
[04:08] <redcard> LeoStewart: There isn't one, really
[04:08] <dabaR> LeoStewart: difference how? it is totally different, and that is why there are 2 guides.
[04:08] <sethk> SpudDogg, atheros support isn't even in the kernel distribution from kernel.org, its 3rd party
[04:08] <kmitch87> LeoStewart: update manager is just a gui for apt-get
[04:08] <phire_mIRC> somehow I don't think I'll get edgy by the end of today...
[04:08] <SpudDogg> sethk, would you happen to know where to get driver patches or whatever i need to use this card with the aircrack-ng suite?
[04:08] <sethk> SpudDogg, I prefer to stay with things in the mainline kernel distro, not because they are better, but because they are more tested.
[04:09] <r080cy90r> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28366/
[04:09] <LeoStewart> Oh, well the "Update Manager" guide looks simpler... is this true?
[04:09] <mikm[laptop] > phire_mIRC It IS still the 25th in many places
[04:09] <dabaR> phire_mIRC: we won't let your ip update unless you change the mirc nick;P
[04:09] <r080cy90r> ok  now i understand
[04:09] <sethk> SpudDogg, not off hand.  I can ask some people at work tomorrow.
[04:09] <SpudDogg> sethk, dont worry man, i'll just google around
[04:09] <phire_mIRC> yes, but my day is quickly running out
[04:09] <sethk> SpudDogg, ok.  I'm working on a wireless modem for the last couple of months, so I haven't been following the chips closely
[04:09] <kmitch87> LeoStewart: yes, if you don't like the command line
[04:09] <ds5> wow.. ubuntu has a lot of idlers
[04:09] <redcard> Kawaii-Panda: I'll give bloglines a run :)  I've heard good things
[04:10] <r080cy90r> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28366/
[04:10] <SpudDogg> sethk, well, thank you for all the help man
[04:10] <LeoStewart> kmitch87: cheers.
[04:10] <redcard> But I've always been afraid that something like that will go away
[04:10] <dabaR> r080cy90r: you do not have anything about the /opt mount point, nor the device, i.e. /dev/hdb1. Did you try mounting this before?
[04:10] <r080cy90r> fstab file  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28366/
[04:10] <NooZ> is any 'easy' trick on creating a partition ext3 on instalation in a Sata HDD ?
[04:10] <Kawaii-Panda> redcard: :D
[04:10] <dabaR> r080cy90r: don't repeat yourself within 3 minutes.
[04:10] <blazemonger> mm no particular date when edgy's released
[04:10] <Kawaii-Panda> whoa... what happened to my smiley :-$
[04:10] <sethk> NooZ, I don't know what you are asking.  It isn't difficult to do, but there aren't any tricks involved.
[04:10] <shah02> how can i map the super key (windows key) to ctrl+alt
[04:10] <r080cy90r> i must have the permission
[04:11] <r080cy90r> in mnt/hd1
[04:11] <r080cy90r> is the same
[04:11] <NooZ> ubuntu crash on install when he's creating the ext3
[04:11] <Kawaii-Panda> shah02: whyd you want to do that?
[04:11] <sethk> r080cy90r, to mount, modify fstab, etc., you need to be root.
[04:11] <r080cy90r> the important thing is i can write on it
[04:11] <sethk> NooZ, that's an SATA Problem, not anything specific to ext3
[04:11] <britt_> how can i watch tv on linux
[04:12] <sethk> NooZ, it's a lower level write problem with the SATA driver.
[04:12] <ds5> wow... an irc channel where real talk happens <3
[04:12] <shah02> Kawaii-Panda: simplicity, super+D is easier than ctrl+alt+d, etc etc, you get the idea
[04:12] <britt_> i need a program to config the tuner settings, mplayer doesnt work
[04:12] <r080cy90r> ok i must write gksudo ?????after
[04:12] <r080cy90r> before excuse
[04:12] <redcard> britt_: TvTime, I think..
[04:12] <sethk> r080cy90r, that's one way, yes
[04:12] <NooZ> sethk more fun is that I've install few weeks ago without any problem :o
[04:12] <r080cy90r> and then
[04:12] <britt_> gives me something to do till mythtv compiles
[04:12] <britt_> sigh...
[04:12] <r080cy90r> what i must modify in fstab file to have permission???
[04:12] <Kawaii-Panda> sethk: im using a SATA disk and it's filesystem is ext3, i dont find anything wrong with it...
[04:13] <condorito> good evening
[04:13] <sethk> NooZ, I've run into this before, and I see also that it is somewhat intermittent
[04:13] <dabaR> good evening
[04:13] <sethk> Kawaii-Panda, not all sata, the problem is specific to a chipset
[04:13] <condorito> i need some help
[04:13] <sethk> Kawaii-Panda, unfortunately it's the chipset in one of my motherboards  :)
[04:13] <britt_> DMA, how is it enabled at boot?
[04:13] <condorito> running cd live user
[04:13] <NooZ> my laptop sucks :p
[04:13] <condorito> on ubuntu 6.06
[04:13] <Kawaii-Panda> shah02
[04:13] <sethk> britt_, it's enabled by default.
[04:13] <sethk> britt_, it can be turned off in the BIOS on most machines
[04:14] <condorito> Buffer I/O error on device dm-4, logical block 6292943
[04:14] <condorito> 24/10/2006 09:58:29 p.m. dollarisyourfriend@hotmail.com la_cabeza01@hotmail.com 4 8 15 16 23 42 + Execute
[04:14] <sethk> britt_, and there is a kernel boot argument that can be used to turn it off
[04:14] <sethk> britt_, and you can also modify the drive settings with smartctl and hdparm
[04:14] <Artemis3> redcard, i do that with mencoder (mplayer)
[04:14] <Kawaii-Panda> why not just change the shortcut keys to super/meta + d instead of mapping the win key to ctrl+alt?
[04:14] <sethk> britt_, what specifically do you need to do w.r.t. DMA?
[04:15] <redcard> Artemis3: I was thinkin bout that.  Mplayer and cron.
[04:15] <britt_> i need it for myth
[04:15] <redcard> The TV Card is actually a WinTV 350.. so..
[04:15] <britt_> why isnt my card working
[04:15] <britt_> i have a 150
[04:15] <sethk> condorito, you can try turning off dma, or slowing it down.
[04:15] <britt_> it picks it up and everything
[04:15] <britt_> i cant find any channels tho
[04:15] <britt_> on either card
[04:15] <redcard> britt_: Hmm.  I had problems with the 150.. I'd make sure you're using the right driver.
[04:15] <zoidberg> hey guys...i have a perl script that I have applied chmod to already....it works perfectly however i have to go to the directory where it is located to access it all the time....how can i add it universially so no matter which directory i am in i can run that script?
[04:15] <r080cy90r> heeeei are you died??
[04:15] <tritium> !enter > britt_
[04:16] <dabaR> condorito: what is that from, and what happens to your computer?
[04:16] <condorito> first i tried to run live user
[04:16] <[erisco] > I am looking for some sort of screen capturing software. As in video... like how they do the on-screen tutorials for programs and such. Anyone have some names?
[04:16] <condorito> and it was allright
[04:16] <sethk> zoidberg, either move it to a directory in your search path (such as /usr/bin), or add the directory where it lives to your search path
[04:16] <britt_> tritium: ??
[04:16] <condorito> i tried to enter internet, but didnt know how to so i switched to windows to find more information
[04:16] <sethk> zoidberg, run hash -r after moving it to update the search path caches on any already running shells
[04:16] <condorito> and i tried to run live cd again, and i couldnt
[04:16] <[erisco] > does anyone know what I mean? heh
[04:16] <condorito> that's the error i get
[04:17] <dabaR> r080cy90r: we have to know what to put in there for the mount point and the drive node. /opt/? /dev/hd??.
[04:17] <tritium> britt_: please use punctuation rather than hitting the enter key between sentences
[04:17] <sethk> condorito, you can try disabling dma during the install
[04:17] <ianmacgregor> [erisco] : Tried istanbul ?
[04:17] <condorito> i didnt install it yet
[04:17] <SpudDogg> sethk, would you happen to know how i can tell if this driver will work for what im trying to do?  http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/detail_desc.aspx?ProductID=2259&DwnldID=11200&agr=Y
[04:17] <condorito> how do i do it
[04:17] <sethk> SpudDogg, let me look
[04:17] <sethk> condorito, what were you doing when you get that error?
[04:17] <[erisco] > ianmacgregor, thanks! I'll give that a try!
[04:17] <sethk> condorito, not installing?
[04:18] <condorito> nothing, really. i was running as live user
[04:18] <condorito> using the cd
[04:18] <condorito> without installing
[04:18] <condorito> but needed to find some information
[04:18] <condorito> and i went back to windows
[04:18] <sethk> SpudDogg, looks good, yes.  I can't tell which kernel version it's tested against, though
[04:18] <condorito> and tried to get back to ubuntu and i get that error
[04:18] <condorito> nothing changed in my hardware
[04:19] <xiaoye> hello
[04:19] <sethk> condorito, possibly you have an intermittent problem with your memory.  I've seen machines run for months between errors of that type.
[04:19] <SpudDogg> sethk, so if i install that one, my WORST CASE is i'll have to reinstall ubuntu?  likely just to reinstall original drivers?
[04:20] <dabaR> condorito: have you tried testing the cd for errors? it is an option in the menu.
[04:20] <condorito> yes i did
[04:20] <sethk> SpudDogg, I can't imagine having to reinstall the entire o/s.
[04:20] <condorito> not a problem
[04:20] <moot_> clear
[04:20] <sethk> SpudDogg, back up /boot and /lib/modules
[04:20] <sethk> SpudDogg, and also /etc
[04:20] <moot_> oops
[04:20] <sethk> SpudDogg, then try it.
[04:20] <dabaR> condorito: what else have you tried?
[04:21] <sethk> condorito, that's not a media issue
[04:21] <SpudDogg> sethk, i just read in the readme that this driver supports kernel 2.6.13 or later.  im runnning 2.6.15-27
[04:21] <corevette> hey i have a question
[04:21] <sethk> that's an hardware error raised by the dma bridge
[04:21] <r080cy90r>  i think is only /opt/ because opt stay in the "/" is the file system mount understand???
[04:21] <sethk> SpudDogg, sounds good.
[04:21] <corevette> what is the thing on webistes that enables people to make usernames/passwords and stuff
[04:21] <condorito> cookies
[04:21] <dabaR> r080cy90r: no, where are you from?
[04:22] <sethk> SpudDogg, but, the "or later" isn't always true.  should be ok, though, for just a couple of minor version numbers, I'd go for it.
[04:22] <r080cy90r> italy
[04:22] <condorito> i am wondering why i was able to run the live cd the first time
[04:22] <r080cy90r> why????
[04:22] <dabaR> !it
[04:22] <sethk> condorito, intermittent problem
[04:22] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:22] <Tarantulafudge> How do you sever ssh connections from the server?
[04:22] <condorito> can you give me some advice on how to fix it?
[04:22] <nvoke> Can someone tell me how to enable my repositories ples?
[04:22] <drminime> Hey, i have an external hard drive that I just mounted and am using samba to share it.  I need to change the permissions, and chmod +w isn't doing it for me.  Any suggestions?  I am root while doing this.
[04:22] <condorito> i am a newbie (n00b) at linux, but i really hate windows
[04:23] <sethk> condorito, I'd run the memtest86 (assuming you are on x86 architecture)
[04:23] <Flannel> !repositories | nvoke
[04:23] <ubotu> nvoke: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:23] <r080cy90r> ok thank excuse me if i brake your balls friend bye
[04:23] <sethk> condorito, memtest86 is a separate, stand alone memory tester that is independent of linux or windows.
[04:23] <sethk> condorito, it is very good at finding intermittent memory problems.
[04:23] <condorito> ok i will run it
[04:24] <sethk> condorito, if you install ubuntu, memtest86 is also installed and added to your boot menu.  Is it on the live cd boot menu?  I'm not sure.
[04:24] <yadaman> hey, I'm getting a new comp soon and am thinking of installing linux on this one. is Ubuntu a good choice for beginners?
[04:24] <tritium> absolutely
[04:24] <sethk> yadaman, I think so, yes
[04:24] <condorito> no it is not
[04:24] <drminime> you bet
[04:24] <nvoke> I mean like, what file do I edit so apt-get works?
[04:24] <sethk> yadaman, what types of things are you going to do with it?
[04:24] <yadaman> I heard that it was from a good computing magazine I read, and was just asking here to make sure.
[04:24] <Phuzion> !freeformats
[04:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:24] <condorito> i meant
[04:24] <condorito> no the memtest is not in the menu
[04:25] <zoidberg> guys I have ubuntu running on an old PowerPC g3 powerbook....how do i configure video output...i want to connect it to another monitor...how can i display stuff on that monito or extend the desktop?
[04:25] <condorito> i downloaded it already
[04:25] <condorito> will try t
[04:25] <sethk> condorito, ok.
[04:25] <tritium> !enter > condorito
[04:25] <yadaman> I just wanted to try out linux and heard that Ubuntu was a good choice for beginners
[04:25] <blazemonger> i think it's good
[04:25] <sethk> yadaman, that's a true statement
[04:25] <SpudDogg> sethk, in the install instructions "First, we build and install the ieee80211 subsystem.  You can obtain the latest ieee80211 subsystem from http://ieee80211.sf.net.  We recommend version 1.1.12 or newer:"  What is that and is it necessary?
[04:25] <Kawaii-Panda> yadaman: it's the worst OS you will ever meet in your life when you want to play games, especially commercial ones.
[04:25] <drminime> again, i've got an external hard drive that i mounted and need to change the permissions so all users can write, chmod +x won't do it, no error msg.  any suggestions?
[04:25] <LeoStewart> yadaman: very true. :)
[04:25] <sethk> SpudDogg, let me look at that url
[04:26] <drminime> *chmod +w
[04:26] <blazemonger> well it's okay for emulator games, but it's not good for most commercial games imo
[04:26] <yadaman> Kawaii-Panda: that's why I'm gonna install it on this box when I get my new comp.
[04:26] <tritium> Kawaii-Panda: that's an exaggeration, for sure
[04:26] <blazemonger> for everything else ubuntu is good
[04:26] <sethk> SpudDogg, yes, you need it
[04:26] <SpudDogg> sethk, ok, cool
[04:26] <yadaman> Kawaii-Panda: since it's not really good for commercial stuff.
[04:26] <SpudDogg> sethk, you are the man.  thanks again
[04:26] <compilerwriter> Can someone help me sync my palm with ubuntu?  I am having no luck with what I am trying from what I can read in the forums.
[04:26] <sethk> SpudDogg, they've layered the wireless to separate out some common code.  similar concept to ndis
[04:26] <yadaman> I'm gonna put vista on my new box.
[04:26] <Phuzion> What is the version after dapper?
[04:27] <Phuzion> Edgy?
[04:27] <condorito> ok i downloaded memtest and i have here some sort of iso, but i dont see an executable file there
[04:27] <yadaman> I'm getting a free copy of Home Premium from a relative that works for microsoft
[04:27] <jrib> Phuzion: yes
[04:27] <Phuzion> Thanks
[04:27] <LeoStewart> Phuzio: yes. 6.10
[04:27] <jrib> Phuzion: after dapper, they go in abc order
[04:27] <sethk> compilerwriter, I've not had problems with my palm with ubuntu and the kde tools and pilot-link
[04:27] <xiaoye> when will the 6.10 release?
[04:27] <sethk> compilerwriter, what are you seeing?
[04:27] <jrib> !ef
[04:27] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[04:28] <compilerwriter> The connection could not be established.
[04:28] <blazemonger> thanks ubotu
[04:28] <stupidone> !ef
[04:28] <compilerwriter> sethk I have been using jpilot.
[04:28] <stupidone> you just thanked the bot
[04:28] <dabaR> tritium: ya, I played lots of games lately, with xmame you can play any game that was ever on arcade, if you download roms, that is:)
[04:28] <sethk> compilerwriter, is it a USB palm?  which one?
[04:28] <LeoStewart> ubotu does it again!
[04:28] <LeoStewart> ;)
[04:28] <ithiel> hello all
[04:28] <dob1> i am downloading dapper,  it will be substituted in few hours ?
[04:28] <compilerwriter> it is a zire21
[04:28] <compilerwriter> it is usb.
[04:29] <yadaman> I'm also thinking of making a website, anyone know what distro of linux is good for webservers so I can put it on a spare box I have?
[04:29] <azureal> is there a way to make my aptitude search results in color? (green if "i", for example?)
[04:29] <LeoStewart> dob1: yes.
[04:29] <condorito> do i need to boot with memtest
[04:29] <condorito> ?
[04:29] <tritium> yadaman: ubuntu is fine for that too
[04:29] <dob1> LeoStewart: ok i stop the download
[04:29] <Kawaii-Panda> yadaman: ubuntu is also available as a server.
[04:29] <blazemonger> i use ubuntu for music production
[04:29] <Flannel> dob1: sort of.  There will be a new version, but dapper is just as good, and a LTS.  So, it depends on what you want in your system.
[04:29] <dabaR> dob1: dapper has 5 years support on the server for example...the new desktop is coming out in a few hours.
[04:29] <sethk> compilerwriter, with the USB palms, there have been some issues with the device identifier.  There are two IDs, and the one you need to use to sync changes.
[04:29] <yadaman> heh, ubuntu is like the universal distro!
[04:29] <Kawaii-Panda> yadaman: check out the ubuntu site's download section :)
[04:29] <LeoStewart> dob1: well, it's up to you.
[04:29] <Phuzion> yadaman:  any linux distro will work
[04:29] <dob1> i want a desktop system
[04:29] <sethk> compilerwriter, as in ttyUSB0, ttyUSB1
[04:29] <yadaman> I'll just have to ask dad for his old un-used box then.
[04:30] <yadaman> then I can get my website on the net finally
[04:30] <dob1> is better that i download the new version then?
[04:30] <sethk> compilerwriter, I have two, one works with ttyUSB0, the other works with ttyUSB1, same palm o/s rev, etc.
[04:30] <blazemonger> yadaman : Ubuntu users are a alien-race hellbent on conquering planet Earth
[04:30] <teledyn> blazemonger: really?  what DAW do you use/recommend?
[04:30] <dennis__> anyone know if there is away or if it's possbile to convert .pl scripts to .deb
[04:30] <compilerwriter> sethk can we switch to private.  Much easier for me to follow.
[04:30] <dabaR> dob1: the iso can still come in handy
[04:30] <Phuzion> yadaman:  I'd personally suggest any that comes with a package manager, because it is a lot easier to insall LAMP without needing to compile everything on your own
[04:30] <ithiel> can anyone help me with my bcm43xx internal wifi card on my Dell Inspiron 600m?
[04:30] <blazemonger> i mostly use rosegarden and audacity
[04:30] <ithiel> !bcm43xx
[04:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:30] <dabaR> dennis__: it would likely be called packaging
[04:31] <dennis__> ah
[04:31] <teledyn> blazemonger: what about VST plugins?
[04:31] <dennis__> well ,I know there are tools like alien and checkinstall that do similar things.
[04:31] <blazemonger> i'e not figured that out yet but working on it
[04:31] <yadaman> heh... ubotu.
[04:31] <yadaman> that's clever.
[04:31] <dabaR> dennis__: google might know about debian new maintainer
[04:31] <Munchkinguy> With fedora core, one can install over both hard drives, so that the disk space of both of them can be used. Is there a way to do this with Ubuntu?
[04:32] <nekostar> do te do te dummm
[04:32] <Flannel> Munchkinguy: you want a RAID? or just to have partitions on both drives?
[04:32] <nekostar> anyone know how to export env variables
[04:32] <yadaman> ubotu... that's a great name. u-bot-u. ubuntu-bot.
[04:32] <yadaman> clever.
[04:32] <jrib> nekostar: with the 'export' command?
[04:32] <teledyn> Munchkinguy: that's not a raid, its using LVM
[04:32] <dabaR> nekostar: you answered your own question...
[04:32] <LeoStewart> yadaman: you don't miss a thing. ;)
[04:32] <nekostar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284562
[04:32] <Flannel> yadaman: take general chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[04:32] <nekostar> dabaR, jrib yeah...... thought i knew how but it hates me....
[04:32] <dabaR> nekostar: and you read the manual?
[04:33] <Phuzion> Haha, I just realized I was trying to use an Edgy repository on a Dapper machine
[04:33] <Phuzion> oops
[04:33] <nekostar> yup
[04:33] <nekostar> if you browse page four i think it was i showed the outputs
[04:33] <Rav|strangler> Thanks everyone
[04:33] <Phuzion> apt-get dist-upgrade after changing sources.list, right?
[04:33] <nekostar> lol Phuzion
[04:33] <Rav|strangler> I got connected to my wireless network
[04:33] <Phuzion> nekostar:  I changed my sources file, then forgot to actually run the update, lol
[04:33] <Munchkinguy> teledyn: See, there isn't enough room on my first hard drive to install Ubuntu and keep room for swap space.
[04:34] <Rav|strangler> too easy
[04:34] <Rav|strangler> :-D
[04:34] <teledyn> Munchkinguy: i'm not sure but i think ubuntu installer has lvm support.  i'd be surprised if it didn't
[04:34] <tritium> teledyn, Munchkinguy: it does
[04:34] <nekostar> Phuzion, is there an upgrade package to edgy yet?
[04:34] <Flannel> Munchkinguy, teledyn, the alternate CD has LVM support, however, you just sound like you want to spread the install over a few drives, which is perfectly doable
[04:34] <Phuzion> Not sure, I think so
[04:34] <Phuzion> I
[04:34] <Munchkinguy> Do I need the "alternative" CD for that?
[04:34] <teledyn> yeah pretty much all distros nowadays offer LVM options when setting up disks during install
[04:34] <Phuzion> I just ran apt-get dist-upgrade and it said all is well so far
[04:34] <nekostar> mmm
[04:35] <Phuzion> I thought Edgy was out for a while
[04:35] <teledyn> Munchkinguy: probably not
[04:35] <nekostar> i have ubuntu in here b/c im gonna try making this triple boot with xp / ubuntu / mac
[04:35] <nekostar> :P
[04:35] <nekostar> probably wont work ~_~
[04:35] <Phuzion> what type of computer?
[04:35] <Phuzion> mac pro or something?
[04:35] <teledyn> Phuzion: apt-get update first, then dist-upgrade
[04:35] <Phuzion> yeah, did that
[04:35] <Rav|strangler> wow neko
[04:35] <Phuzion> and it's just sitting there waiting for headers
[04:35] <Phuzion> So, I have no idea what to do
[04:36] <teledyn> Phuzion: and it didn't fetch anything?
[04:36] <Phuzion> I think the packages aren;'r released
[04:36] <Rav|strangler> your going to be ethuggin like me
[04:36] <Phuzion> It's just saying 0% waiting for headers
[04:36] <Munchkinguy> Does the alternate cd have a gui?
[04:36] <jbroome> no
[04:36] <tritium> Munchkinguy: text-mode
[04:36] <Phuzion> Oh, sweet
[04:36] <nekostar> os[Linux 2.6.15-23-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ @ 2.16GHz]  mem[Physical : 1011MB, 78.8% free]  disk[Total : 342.07GB, 7.80% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] ]  sound[Audigy2 - Audigy 2 [SB0240] ] 
[04:36] <teledyn> Phuzion: well its - a - waiting...
[04:36] <Phuzion> Packages are downloading
[04:36] <Phuzion> Awesome
[04:36] <nekostar> thats my current info Phuzion
[04:36] <nekostar> sorry had to install xchat-xsys
[04:36] <nekostar> installed ubuntu like 4 am last night
[04:36] <nekostar> XD
[04:36] <Munchkinguy> tritium: like the breezy install cd?
[04:37] <Phuzion> nekostar:  Repping the 5200, nice
[04:37] <Flannel> Munchkinguy: exactly
[04:37] <teledyn> Phuzion: its slow for me right now too for some reason
[04:37] <tritium> Munchkinguy: yeah, based on debian-installer
[04:37] <Phuzion> It's a rather impressive card for its age
[04:37] <Rav|strangler> i thought linux didnt have to restart
[04:37] <nekostar> dude ive had that since it was bleeding edge and its served me well ^^;;
[04:37] <Phuzion> Hahaha
[04:37] <Phuzion> Same here
[04:37] <dabaR> tritium: there is a lot of people being totally offtopic...
[04:37] <Phuzion> That's on my computer upstairs though
[04:37] <Flannel> !offtopic
[04:37] <nekostar> Rav|strangler, well mostly when you do major upgrades like kernel stuff
[04:37] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:38] <Flannel> Guys, take the general chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:38] <nekostar> Flannel, having a bad day?
[04:38] <tritium> dabaR: you're right.
[04:38] <Rav|strangler> oh ok
[04:38] <nekostar> try #gentoo they like being rude to the users ^^;;
[04:38] <teledyn> Phuzion: you can always ctrl-c it and restart it to see if it connects faster
[04:38] <Rav|strangler> well brb gotta restart
[04:38] <nekostar> bbiab
[04:38] <Rav|strangler> lol
[04:38] <Phuzion> teledyn:  I said it;s getting packages
[04:38] <tritium> Please stay on topic, folks.  Thanks!
[04:38] <Flannel> nekostar: there's 900 people here, If everyone was chatting, it'd be really impossible for anyone to get any support
[04:38] <nekostar> Flannel, but they are not.
[04:38] <Phuzion> 916, get ya numberz straight, son
[04:39] <Phuzion> 917
[04:39] <dabaR> tritium: and there was this guy that was soo annoying:) I told him kthxbye, kinda...sent him to his language channel cause he asked understand??? and I did not at all, and he swore at me...:)
[04:39] <Phuzion> 918
[04:39] <Phuzion> 917, lol
[04:39] <teledyn> most of those people are just idling
[04:39] <Phuzion> alright, enough
[04:39] <teledyn> thank god
[04:39] <helloyo> could somebody please help me enable direct rendering with my radeon 9550?
[04:39] <nekostar> ~850 idleing lol
[04:39] <Phuzion> nekostar, wanna take it to offtopic
[04:39] <tritium> dabaR: sorry, can't catch them all
[04:39] <dabaR> tritium: ya, off course:)
[04:39] <nekostar> Phuzion, gotta try something for the reason i originally came in here... the thread in the forums i mentioned above
[04:39] <nekostar> bbaib'
[04:40] <Phuzion> is 100Kb/s slow for packages downloading?
[04:40] <LeoStewart> Are there admins in this room ever?
[04:40] <Phuzion> Rarely
[04:40] <dabaR> tritium: they are not so much kickable as just incoherent. if you read what nekostar said alltogether...and his forum page...
[04:40] <teledyn> Phuzion: not really
[04:40] <Phuzion> The people that have ops in here generally don't op themselves unless they need to use them
[04:40] <Phuzion> That way they don't get bothered with OMG SOMEONE IS LYING TO ME or something stupid like that
[04:40] <LeoStewart> Phuzion: ahh.
[04:40] <Kawaii-Panda> i wont really call it idling, i for one just wants to learn some stuff new, and help when im needed.
[04:41] <teledyn> that's 800Mbps or little more than half T1 which isn't bad
[04:41] <tritium> LeoStewart: we try to watch as best we can
[04:41] <LeoStewart> tritium: I take it you're an admin?
[04:41] <dabaR> teledyn: there are lots, /msg ubotu ops
[04:41] <tritium> LeoStewart: yes
[04:41] <teledyn> dabaR: ?
[04:41] <perkin> hello everybody
[04:42] <dabaR> teledyn: pah, sorry.
[04:42] <LeoStewart> tritium: cheers. ;)
[04:42] <helloyo> enable direct rendering help anyone?
[04:42] <Phuzion> So, I just got a free set of Bose speakers
[04:42] <Phuzion> oops, wrong channel, lol
[04:42] <perkin> excuse me people, i have a doubt about shipit and Edgy eft: will Canonical ship Cds of Edgy Eft?
[04:42] <tritium> LeoStewart: hi :)  Welcome to #ubuntu.  It's not the ops that make the channel great.  It's the users here in the channel.  They rock!
[04:42] <Phuzion> Yes
[04:42] <Munchkinguy> perkin: no
[04:42] <Flannel> perkin: of couse they will
[04:43] <Munchkinguy> what?
[04:43] <Munchkinguy> I was told not
[04:43] <perkin> Munchkinguy: i don't know, because i've heard that they won't ship cds anymore
[04:43] <Phuzion> I was not told not, so I'm going to assume the answer is yes
[04:43] <thcrw8383> What is it like updating Ubuntu to Edgy ?
[04:43] <dabaR> thcrw8383: /msg ubotu upgrade
[04:43] <perkin> wow, so our plans are going to fall down very quicky
[04:43] <Munchkinguy> Perkin: http://everythingelse.wordpress.com/2006/09/20/shipit-will-not-take-orders-for-edgy-eft/
[04:44] <teledyn> thcrw8383: pretty non-eventful
[04:44] <wastrel> Shipit will continue sending out dapper LTS
[04:44] <perkin> ok, thanks..
[04:44] <thcrw8383> Is it hard to do,I hear it a good 700 MB
[04:44] <tritium> thcrw8383: about, yes
[04:44] <perkin> so we'll have to burn thousands of Cds in Mendoza, Argentina
[04:45] <zoidberg> does anyone know how to work an external monitor with a laptop
[04:45] <zoidberg> ?
[04:45] <Munchkinguy> perkin: They will ship cds, but not Edgy Eft.
[04:45] <tritium> zoidberg: just like any other
[04:45] <dabaR> Munchkinguy: man, after reading what shuttleworth says about what an eft is, I don't feel like upgrading to edgy:)
[04:45] <Phuzion> perkin: set up an Ubuntu reposiitory on a gigabit network
[04:45] <Artemis3> what is an eft?
[04:45] <zoidberg> tritium: how?
[04:45] <thcrw8383> If I stay with dapper,will I continue to recieve updates,like major ones,like a new release of the Gnome desktop?
[04:45] <tritium> zoidberg: are you trying to do dual-head setup, or what?
[04:45] <teledyn> Artemis3: what the hell are any of these bizarre names they use?  i never heard of any of them?
[04:46] <Flannel> thcrw8383: no.  the gnome version is fixed per release
[04:46] <Phuzion> thcrw8383:  What reasons are you considering not upgrading?
[04:46] <Munchkinguy> thcrw8383: The desktop will not be updates, but you will recieve security releases
[04:46] <Sebastian_> what is new in the new gnome ?
[04:46] <[erisco] > instanbul crashed on me, and if I open a new one, it closes... leaving the crashed one... "running"
[04:46] <babo> Guys, does anyone know how to convert a string like this ... into UTF-8 ?
[04:46] <Artemis3> hmm i think they appear in books of animals ^^;
[04:46] <babo> =?euc-kr?B?RW1wbG95bWVudCBPcHB
[04:46] <[erisco] > how do I kill the process?
[04:46] <thcrw8383> Im on dial-up,upgrading will be hell
[04:46] <Flannel> !eft
[04:46] <ubotu> eft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development - the release after Dapper will be called Edgy Eft.  For information and pictures of efts/newts, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt or try !edgy
[04:46] <Munchkinguy> dabaR: This is Canonical thinking about business: 6.06 was long term support for a reason
[04:47] <LeoStewart> !edgy
[04:47] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:47] <Phuzion> [ericso] :  ps aux | grep istanbul then kill the pid number
[04:47] <Artemis3> see?
[04:47] <teledyn> what is a drake then?
[04:47] <zoidberg> tritium: well that would be nice...like an extended desktop but if i could get it to work with just one external montior without the laptop monitor that would be fine too
[04:47] <LeoStewart> let me try!
[04:47] <Artemis3> a duck?
[04:47] <LeoStewart> !drake
[04:47] <tritium> !xinerama > zoidberg
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <LeoStewart> shoot...
[04:47] <teledyn> haha
[04:47] <Phuzion> !dapper
[04:47] <Artemis3> hahaha
[04:47] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[04:47] <teledyn> sucker
[04:47] <tritium> zoidberg: what video chip does yoru laptop have?
[04:47] <Munchkinguy> thcrw8383: you can always buy a cd
[04:47] <SpudDogg> sethk, i think this driver and the IEEE80211 stuff if too much for me
[04:47] <LeoStewart> Artemis3: yes, a drake is a male duck.
[04:48] <zoidberg> i think its ati3dragepro or something
[04:48] <Artemis3> tehehe
[04:48] <[erisco] > Phuzion, which one is the "pid"?
[04:48] <thcrw8383> so,if I have dapper,and I recieve a eft CD,i can get my updates through that?
[04:48] <sethk> SpudDogg, why?  having problems building?
[04:48] <Phuzion> process id number
[04:48] <SpudDogg> sethk, to say the least
[04:48] <zoidberg> tritium: btw its a powerpc g3 powerbook...old...and i'm running badger on it...works better
[04:48] <tritium> zoidberg: oh, okay.  ati?
[04:48] <Phuzion> [ericso[:  second column
[04:48] <Phuzion> [ericso] :  second column
[04:48] <sethk> SpudDogg, well, you know, I write drivers, so it's second nature to me, but it can be trying.
[04:49] <sethk> SpudDogg, you might want to try with the exact kernel version they mentioned on the intel driver web page
[04:49] <zoidberg> tritium: yes
[04:49] <Munchkinguy> Sebastian_: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16/notes/C/rnfrontpage.html
[04:49] <LeoStewart> Artemis3: In case you were wondering, a fawn, as in Feisty Fawn, is a young deer. ;)
[04:49] <[erisco] > Phuzion, I am seeing this: 7830  0.0  0.0   2880   804 pts/0    S+   22:47   0:00 grep instanbul
[04:49] <sethk> SpudDogg, but we often have to fix thing up in code we get from intel
[04:49] <dabaR> thcrw8383: you could upgrade, reinstall...
[04:49] <Phuzion> don't bother
[04:49] <Phuzion> it's not there
[04:49] <Artemis3> ^^!
[04:49] <Sebastian_> Munchkinguy: thanks man
[04:49] <Munchkinguy> teledyn: or a dragon
[04:49] <tritium> zoidberg: you can setup dual-head without xinerama too.  "man radeon" for details on what options you need
[04:49] <Artemis3> so thats what it was ^^;
[04:49] <[erisco] > so, now what? heh
[04:49] <Phuzion> no idea,
[04:50] <Phuzion> I'm kinda like the first aid here, now you have to go a little deeper
[04:50] <[erisco] > no other way to kill a dead process?
[04:50] <Munchkinguy> Sebastian_: you're welcome
[04:50] <Phuzion> If it doesn't exist, then you can't rea;lly kill it
[04:50] <Phuzion> But we might have been searching for the wrong thing, I have no clue
[04:50] <sasuk3> haha tru
[04:50] <perkin> yes, they have very good reasons for not to ship Edgy Eft, the work they made with Dapper is great
[04:50] <Phuzion> I don't know what istanbul shows up as in the ps aux menu
[04:50] <thcrw8383> I cant re-install,Dial-up is a pain in the a**,Re-installing means a re-format,which means losing everything,and I do NOT want to take the risk
[04:50] <MadCowBoy> Whats the definition of a 'troll
[04:50] <[erisco] > lol, I just did it through the GUI system manager ;)
[04:50] <MadCowBoy> with regards to forums or IRC
[04:51] <[erisco] > way for GUI
[04:51] <sasuk3> GUI system manager
[04:51] <sasuk3> wow xD
[04:51] <Phuzion> MadCowBoy:  Someone who just goes in and flames
[04:51] <Phuzion> No actual contribution
[04:51] <n8k99> !troll
[04:51] <MadCowBoy> thx
[04:51] <dabaR> thcrw8383: I said that as an option in addition to upgrading
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <sasuk3> troll = linus torvalds
[04:51] <MadCowBoy> lol
[04:51] <Kawaii-Panda> blasphemy
[04:51] <Kawaii-Panda> troll = linus torvalds?
[04:52] <sasuk3> ea
[04:52] <dabaR> tritium: ...
[04:52] <Kawaii-Panda> how?
[04:52] <dabaR> tritium: sorry
[04:52] <[erisco] > !instanbul
[04:52] <Kawaii-Panda> ...
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about instanbul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <[erisco] > thanks anyways ubotu
[04:52] <zoidberg> tritium: the video card i have is not radeon...its ATI 3drage pro
[04:53] <thcrw8383> Last question,If I decide to upgrade,can I download the upgrade as I go? (pausing it regularly)
[04:53] <Phuzion> I'd suggest just doing an overnight kind of thing
[04:53] <n8k99> trolls generally are disagreable and argumentative for reasons that are highly irrelevant to the conversation or discussion at hand
[04:53] <[erisco] > !pid
[04:53] <tritium> zoidberg: yes, but if you use the "ati" driver for X.org, you can use radeon options
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <dabaR> n8k99: or the just send messages irrelevant to ubotu tech support like you.
[04:53] <K-en> Hello.
[04:53] <sasuk3> PID PROCESS ID
[04:53] <dabaR> n8k99: the unintentional troll:)
[04:54] <n8k99> dabaR: answering MadCowBoy's question, thank you
[04:54] <sasuk3> btw [erisco]  dont get inlove with ubotu is just a bot :)
[04:54] <n8k99> :)
[04:54] <Rav|strangler> can anyone tell me how to make the terminal transperent
[04:54] <MadCowBoy> I work mostly with php, but also sometimes with asp, can anyone suggest a way I could host asp pages accessing mdb's without relying on a windows box please?
[04:55] <teledyn> apt-get install dict dict-gcide dict-jargon dict-foldoc; dict troll
[04:55] <dabaR> n8k99: answer that one
[04:55] <K-en> MadCowBoy: I use Beryl + glx and I have the ability to make certain windows semi-transparent: enough to see the window content behind them.
[04:55] <yadaman> question. all the times I've tried Linux before, it was supposed to automatically install a dual-boot program, which it didn't, and I'm wondering... Is Ubuntu gonna pull some crap loke that?
[04:55] <K-en> It's a nice piece of eye-candy but i've found it has a lot of practical application for me, too, as a newbie windows user.
[04:56] <sasuk3> Rav|strangler on terminal preferences :D
[04:56] <n8k99> is not asp a M$ proprietary solution that can only be reverse engineered to work under Linux servers
[04:56] <MadCowBoy> K-en, wasn;t my question but thanks I like beryl :)
[04:56] <Rav|strangler> ye ai just saw it :-] 
[04:56] <jano_l77> hi i'm new
[04:56] <khaije1> edgy is scheduled for release in about an hour isn't it?
[04:56] <tritium> yadaman: it will install grub, which will allow you to dual-boot
[04:56] <K-en> Yadaman: Ubuntu is my first Linux distro and i've had no problems with dual-booting. I had Windows XP installed first and GRUB automatically configured for me.
[04:56] <MadCowBoy> hi jano_l77
[04:57] <Munchkinguy> Welcome, jano_l77.
[04:57] <MadCowBoy> asp anyone?
[04:57] <jano_l77> ubuntu is the best
[04:57] <sasuk3> i made a shell on asp is COoL
[04:57] <K-en> Rav|strangler: (second time lucky) I use Beryl + glx and I have the ability to make certain windows semi-transparent: enough to see the window content behind them.
[04:57] <dabaR> MadCowBoy: what have you tried so far?
[04:58] <MadCowBoy> configuring apache::asp, but haven;t looked into how I'll access the .mdb
[04:58] <sasuk3> MadCowBoy u are on ubuntu channel.. :D
[04:58] <mpee> !schedule
[04:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:58] <jano_l77> my ubuntu can read text for me
[04:58] <jano_l77> easy
[04:58] <MadCowBoy> chillisoft sounds like it would do everything but I don;t want to pay of course,
[04:59] <dabaR> MadCowBoy: libapache2-mod-mono mono-xsp2 are some packages to look into. look for tutorials on google
[04:59] <MadCowBoy> sasuk3, thanks for that I am an Ubuntu user :p :)
[04:59] <jano_l77> file:///home/jano/Desktop/gnu.jpg
[04:59] <godtvisken> Is there a Firefox 2 ubuntu package yet?
[04:59] <khaije1> thx mpee
[04:59] <jano_l77> fuck
[04:59] <jano_l77> jajaja
[04:59] <dabaR> tritium:
[04:59] <MadCowBoy> thanks dabaR Will do,
[05:00] <dabaR> thanks
[05:00] <zoidberg> tritium: I dont want to fuck with my xorg.conf file really....is there any other option?
[05:00] <mpee> khaije1: no worries, I haven't heard much, I was wondering if it was going to slip
[05:00] <tritium> zoidberg: dude, watch your language please!
[05:00] <Kawaii-Panda> godtvisken: yes.
[05:01] <Kawaii-Panda> been using it in edgy for days.
[05:01] <tritium> zoidberg: you can simply plug in an external monitor and try hot-switching.  You can also "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" once you've done so.
[05:01] <zoidberg> tritium: sorry....what do u mean by hotswitching...would i have to reboot?
[05:01] <Sebastian_> what is bitchX?
[05:01] <sasuk3> MadCowBoy u ask about asp working with mdb on ubuntu channel.. :P
[05:01] <phire_mIRC> irc clinet
[05:01] <sasuk3> thats what i mean :p
[05:01] <khaije1> mpee: me too, isn't this the place to ask? i would expect more anticipation, but it seems like business as usual
[05:01] <godtvisken> Kawaii-Panda: but i mean for dapper
[05:02] <tj__> zoidberg: messing w/ xorg.conf isn't that bad, just be sure to back up often, and then just edit ti all you like
[05:02] <tritium> zoidberg: I don't have an iBook, but it should have a hotkey combination for switching between LCD and external display
[05:02] <khaije1> maybe everyone is already on an RC
[05:02] <deshantm> !edgy
[05:02] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:02] <khaije1> :-)
[05:02] <teledyn> Sebastian_: highly modified version of ircii
[05:02] <deshantm> !schedule
[05:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:02] <Sebastian_> thx
[05:03] <K-en> Hm, I do have a question. My console (ctrl+alt+F#) doesn't display. It simply goes to a blank screen.
[05:04] <[erisco] > does anyone have any other solutions to this instanbul?
[05:04] <mpee> khaije1: exactly, although I guess all the devs are busy doing real work rather than sitting on irc :)
[05:04] <[erisco] > it has crashed every time I have used it :(
[05:04] <AfterDeath> K-en: does ctrl+alt+f1 work?
[05:04] <mpee> [erisco] : what's this instanbul thing?
[05:04] <AfterDeath> K-en: if not, make sure that the entries are in inittab
[05:04] <[erisco] > hold on
[05:04] <tritium> mpee: apt-cache show istanbul, and you'll see :)
[05:04] <sasuk3> K-en BLANK screen?? or white screen LoL
[05:04] <K-en> AfterDeath: Well, it switches to a blank screen but the console doesn't actually appear. It just remains blank.
[05:05] <K-en> Sasuk3: Blank, black screen,.
[05:05] <AfterDeath> K-en: check inittab
[05:05] <sasuk3> ah..
[05:05] <sasuk3> dont get the prompt
[05:05] <mpee> ah that thing
[05:06] <K-en> Sasuk3: That would probably be a more coherent expression. I don't get the prompt.
[05:06] <tj__> what is the edgy release date?
[05:06] <LeoStewart> !ef
[05:06] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:06] <RancidLM> hey all i just got a new monitor, and my xorg is all messed up.. what is the command for ubuntu to re-detect the best settings for the monitor?
[05:07] <aj-reyes> debconf?
[05:07] <[erisco] > instanbul records your desktop. it is really "buggy" though, it sometimes works, and most times crashes
[05:07] <[erisco] > does a really junky job with the mouse too
[05:07] <Sebastian_> Will kubuntu edgy be available today too?
[05:07] <mpee> coolblade, I might not install it then
[05:08] <teledyn> RancidLM: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:08] <CppIsWeird> how do i ls and have it pause on the list when it fills the winodw and wait for me to press continue
[05:08] <RancidLM> teledyn: thanks!
[05:08] <billsfamtorque33> CppIsWeird: ls | more
[05:08] <globe> CppIsWeird: man ls
[05:08] <deshantm> OR: CppIsWeird ls | less
[05:08] <[erisco] > oh, and firefox has been crashing a lot with flash =(
[05:08] <mpee> ok, work to do, see you ubuntitos
[05:09] <DigitalNinja> is anyone out there using either an epox motherboard or a msi nx7600 video card
[05:09] <grndslm> do any of the ubuntu cds (desktop or alternate) respond to usb keyboards on bootup??
[05:09] <Sebastian_> I'm having some problems with youtube videos out of sync in firefox and flock. Any solution?
[05:10] <CppIsWeird> any way to get it to continue in list for and not be item for item enter
[05:10] <Tatey> Sebastian_: using flash9?
[05:10] <LeoStewart> Firefox crashes with some Java applications, like Java-IRC chat clients.  It also loads quite slowly while browsing.  Is this normal?
[05:10] <aj-reyes> no usb for me
[05:10] <Sebastian_> tatey: is it available for download already?
[05:10] <aj-reyes> Im pretty usb keyboard is a grub thing, cause it dont work therye either
[05:10] <globe> CppIsWeird: ? say that again...
[05:10] <K-en> LeoStewart: My experience with Java is that it slows everything down. This may just be my bad luck, though.
[05:10] <DigitalNinja> Maybe I should start simple
[05:11] <CppIsWeird> globe: like dir -o-p-a-w
[05:11] <DigitalNinja> Does Linux work with pci express video cards
[05:11] <tritium> sure does
[05:11] <grndslm> aj-reyes, the cd boots with grub?  interesting
[05:11] <globe> CppIsWeird: ? sorry...its been too long, whats o, a do?
[05:11] <Tatey> Sebastian_: no, but you can manually install it. There is a bug with the Flash 7 plugin and audio syncing
[05:11] <LeoStewart> K-en: yeah, same here.
[05:11] <teledyn> DigitalNinja: go to xorg's website and see if the card is supported
[05:11] <Sebastian_> tatey: thank you. is it available in the adobe page?
[05:12] <deshantm> !flash
[05:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:12] <Tatey> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:12] <CppIsWeird> like i want it to do what it does accept every time the list takes more then a page of terminal, to pause for enter, without having to hit enter for every item listed passed the view point] 
[05:12] <DigitalNinja> teledyn: Thanks! That's the one plcae I havn't been yet
[05:12] <K-en> AfterDeath: I'm looking at the inittab, and things look alright, although i'll be honest and admit I'm not sure what they'd look like if they weren't.
[05:13] <Tatey> close firefox, go into ~/.mozilla/plugins and remove the flash.so and .xpt file and then copy over the new one. Done
[05:13] <Sebastian_> tatey: thank you very much
[05:13] <globe> CppIsWeird: how do you want it to resume after its pauses?
[05:13] <grndslm> anybody know why after both dapper and edgy desktop cds are almost about to display x & gnome, that the monitor would just say: "D-SUB:  Can not display this mode"
[05:13] <globe> CppIsWeird: I see the problem.  hit space
[05:13] <Tatey> grndslm: it may not be detecing your frequencies properly, try booting with "Safe Graphics Mode"
[05:14] <grndslm> Tatey, kk...brb
[05:14] <fluvvell> grndslm, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <grndslm> fluvvell, it's the installation cd
[05:14] <noex> Anyone have a minute to help me figure out a sound problem I am experiancing with Enemy Territory. I have wiki'd, faq'd, google'd and tested.... without any luck...  Does "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" mean anything to anyone? My desktop sound is working, as well as a game like Frozen Bubbles.
[05:14] <fluvvell> grndslm, yup, do it in tty1.  ctrl-alt-f1
[05:14] <Tatey> noex: make sure you close any application that is using the sound device
[05:14] <grndslm> Tatey, oh yea...my usb keyboards don't work!!
[05:15] <aztektum> bah. whats the command line way to find where a program is installed
[05:15] <globe> grndslm: invest in a $3 usb->ps/2 converter ;-)
[05:15] <Tatey> grndslm: they should, got a PS/2 keyboard you can plugin?
[05:15] <aztektum> starts with w
[05:15] <noex> Tatey: I have attempted that. Although, I can run Amarok and Frozen Bubbles at the same time without any sound issues.
[05:15] <aztektum> i think
[05:15] <noex> Tatey: Any other ideas?
[05:15] <Tatey> aztektum: $ whereis programname
[05:15] <aztektum> yeh yeh
[05:15] <aztektum> thx
[05:15] <grndslm> invest in a usb->ps/2 converter??  seriously??
[05:15] <CppIsWeird> how do i use find to find an executeable with "vnc" in the name?
[05:15] <globe> CppIsWeird: did that make it do what you want?
[05:16] <Tatey> noex: Enemy Terroritory might use OSS, and not ALSA. OSS doesn't like sharing the device
[05:16] <grndslm> what's up with linux not being able to detect usb keyboards???
[05:16] <CppIsWeird> globe, i have no idea, im getting exceedingly pissed at googles inability to find shit on what i search for
[05:16] <globe> CppIsWeird: just like dos.  ls *vnc* | more
[05:16] <tritium> CppIsWeird: you can also use "dpkg -L <packagename>" to list the files in a package
[05:16] <brian98> CppIsWeird, locate *vnc*
[05:16] <Tatey> CppIsWeird: your best bet would be to $ find /usr/bin/ | grep vpn
[05:16] <brian98> CppIsWeird, find / -name *vnc*
[05:16] <DigitalNinja> x.org doesn't have any information on cards that are supported
[05:16] <noex> Tatey: I picked up the OSS-ALAS wrapper and that didn't do the trick sadly. Any suggestions of things to try?
[05:16] <fluvvell> aztektum
[05:17] <DigitalNinja> is there another site I can go to that has information on video cards that are supported.
[05:17] <Tatey> noex: I use to get a similar issue when I had my music player open, when I closed my music player then reopened the game, it worked perfectly
[05:17] <tritium> What card do you have, DigitalNinja?
[05:17] <fluvvell> grndslm, im using a usb keyboard now...
[05:17] <DigitalNinja> msi nx7600
[05:17] <globe> CppIsWeird: what are you googling?
[05:17] <tritium> DigitalNinja: is that based on an nvidia 7600?
[05:17] <Tatey> DigitalNinja: is that an nvidia chipset? If so, it's fully supported.
[05:17] <JNeverMind> ive been having a prob with 6.06 do you know what time 6.10 iso will be available for dl from ubuntu.com ?
[05:17] <grndslm> fluvvell, try using an installation cd already!
[05:17] <DigitalNinja> NVIDIA
[05:17] <noex> Tatey: Mmm, doesn't seem to be that easy for me. I have dropped my music player and ran ET.. I still receive the same "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy."
[05:17] <tritium> DigitalNinja: okay, fully supported :)
[05:18] <smoked1> I installed paintshop pro 7 using wine but for some reason when I try to launch the app all I get is the splash screen. Can someone help me?
[05:18] <Tatey> !finaledgy
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about finaledgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <Tatey> !edgyfinal
[05:18] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:18] <DigitalNinja> tritium: It doens't work well on my epox motherboard. It lockes up
[05:18] <tritium> DigitalNinja: with which driver?
[05:18] <fluvvell> gndslm, it shouldn't make any diff but if you're desperate, ...
[05:18] <Munchkinguy> teledyn, tritium, Flannel: thank you for the LVM help
[05:18] <JNeverMind> thanks guys
[05:18] <ZeN> Hi, I'm trying to get Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory to work, but I get no video.
[05:18] <globe> does gnome keep a log of what modules it loads/fails to load somewhere?
[05:18] <Tatey> noex: beyond that, I'm not entirely sure. Try the Ubuntuforums.org
[05:19] <tritium> Munchkinguy: :)
[05:19] <DigitalNinja> tritium: the nvidia driver
[05:19] <Tatey> globe: no, but you can check dmesg
[05:19] <noex> Tatey: Been there, done that.. Thanks though!
[05:19] <ZeN> When the game starts, I see the cursor for a little, but then the screen goes black
[05:19] <globe> Tatey: sounds good.  how might I do that ?
[05:19] <tritium> DigitalNinja: "nv" or "nvidia"?
[05:19] <ZeN> I know its still running though
[05:19] <ZeN> because I hear the music.
[05:19] <DigitalNinja> tritium: nvidia
[05:19] <vertana> nvidia
[05:19] <Tatey> globe: $ dmesg
[05:19] <fluvvell> grndslm, is it just that the detection process means its loading things off the cd and takes a lot longer than you expect?
[05:19] <globe> Tatey: :-)
[05:19] <DigitalNinja> tritium: I ran glxinfo and it says I have direct rendering
[05:20] <tritium> DigitalNinja: did you look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[05:20] <DigitalNinja> tritium: However, the system locks up any way
[05:20] <Rav|strangler> how would I scheldule a shutdown?
[05:20] <Tatey> $ sudo shutdown -h X
[05:20] <Tatey> where X = minutes
[05:20] <DigitalNinja> tritium: Yup! not sure what I'm looking for but I didn't see any big error messages.
[05:20] <Tatey> for an immediate shutdown, you can use "now"
[05:21] <Rav|strangler> thanks you
[05:21] <globe> Tatey: okay.  so thats about 1000 lines.  cant I use grep to search it or something?
[05:21] <smoked1> could someone at least tell me where wine stores its log files?
[05:21] <Flannel> Rav|strangler: time can either be an offset (like, 1 hour from now) or an actual time
[05:21] <grndslm> fluvvell, i've tried using 6.06.1 & 6.10... desktop & alternate....all 4 DO NOT respond to usb keyboards...the only way i can get them to work is let the desktop cds automatically boot, but then i get that graphics error
[05:21] <smoked1> Are they in /var/messages?
[05:21] <vertana> Tatey: Could you enter a time such as "shutdown -h 16:00"?
[05:21] <Tatey> globe: sure can, though the logfile is in chronological order so anything recent will appear last. Otherwise, grep is great. $ dmesg | grep <the module you're looking for>
[05:22] <globe> Tatey: bah! I forgot the |
[05:22] <ZeN> could someone help me with a video? problem. not quite sure the problem.
[05:22] <Flannel> vertana: yes
[05:22] <[erisco] > lol, how do I stop instanbul from speeding all my movies up to no end?
[05:22] <nailbags> i want to use firefox to open html/jpeg/etc attachments in mutt. it works, but only if firefox isn't already running. if firefox is already running, the 'firefox-bin %s' command in my mailcap file returns instantly and mutt deletes the attachment out of /tmp before firefox has a chance to load it. any ideas?
[05:22] <Tatey> vertana: yes, you can do $ sudo shutdown -h time hh:mm
[05:22] <fluvvell> grndslm, I'm using 6.06, and yes its an installed copy.  A long shot, but do you need to enable legacy usb in the bios if you are expecting a usb keyboard to work before the os is fully booted?
[05:23] <globe> Tatey: you are a rockstar helper my friend....10 people at once
[05:23] <vertana> and the minutes would be in the 24 hours clock I assume?
[05:23] <globe> vertana: ... hours?
[05:23] <[erisco] > if I type normally it looks like I can type 500 words a minute here lol
[05:23] <vertana> clock* hours*.... whichever ^^
[05:23] <grndslm> ok...i found a ps/2 keyboard in my roommate's room, but i'm still getting the "D-SUB:  Can not display this mode" error after using the "safe graphics mode"
[05:24] <[erisco] > gotta be a way to slow 'er down!
[05:24] <nailbags> no mutt users in the house?
[05:24] <grndslm> fluvvell, i can access the bios with the usb keyboards...so, no i don't need to enable legacy usb....it's just the ubuntu installers
[05:24] <fluvvell> grndslm, and once the cd is fully booted, you can reconfigure the graphics with  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but you'll need to do it on a console
[05:24] <compilerwriter> Anyone else have any ideas on a zire 21 and synching?
[05:24] <Tatey> vertana: no, in minutes. For example, $ sudo shutdown -h 30 would halt my system in 30 minutes. If you want to use seconds you can specify with t. $ sudo shutdown -h -t 60 would halt my system in 60 seconds
[05:24] <Tatey> globe: heh, thanks. Doing what I can :)
[05:25] <Tatey> grndslm: what's the model of the display? Is it fairly new?
[05:25] <CppIsWeird> what is the vnc server called? i need to restart the server
[05:25] <RhiNo> Hello
[05:25] <grndslm> Tatey, yes a dell 2405fpw
[05:25] <RhiNo> can someone help me get my wireless conenction to work?
[05:25] <Tatey> if all else fails, you could grab the alternate CD, which performs a text-based install.
[05:25] <RhiNo> i talked to someone they told me to come here cause he was going to bed now
[05:25] <globe> Are thery any openGL programmers in here?  I cannot get my programs to display ... "Unable to create direct context rendering ..."
[05:25] <Tatey> grndslm: it's possible that X is unable to correctly detect your frequencies, I'd suggest the text-based install. It's just as easy (and faster) than the GUI live CD
[05:26] <phire_mIRC> RhiNo: what kind of wireless card do you have?
[05:26] <grndslm> Tatey...oh yea, i forgot i had a ps/2 keyboard to work with the alternate install now...GRACIAS!!
[05:26] <RhiNo> linksys
[05:26] <Tatey> CppIsWeird: look in /etc/init.d for something that matches vnc
[05:26] <phire_mIRC> does ubuntu reconise it?
[05:26] <music_man_nz> is edgy out yet?
[05:26] <RhiNo> wpc54g v 1.2
[05:26] <[erisco] > the more FPS the faster is plays it? lol
[05:26] <Tatey> music_man_nz: not quite
[05:26] <music_man_nz> ack
[05:26] <music_man_nz> when?
[05:27] <RhiNo> i installed ndiswrapper
[05:27] <grndslm> music_man_nz...how'd you hear about edgy?
[05:27] <Tatey> CppIsWeird: when you find it, simply run $ sudo /etc/init.d/nameofscript restart
[05:27] <music_man_nz> around the place...
[05:27] <RhiNo> then the wireless card as far as i know
[05:27] <Tatey> !edgyfinal
[05:27] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:27] <RhiNo> then i did sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:27] <RhiNo> but it still wont connect
[05:27] <music_man_nz> well the thing is
[05:27] <Boelcke> Greetings, all.  If I'm making an rsync backup of my /home, why do I want to include the hidden directories?
[05:28] <fluvvell> music_man_nz, as in   en zed, country?
[05:28] <globe> Boelcke: because they usually contain settings for programs and such
[05:28] <Tatey> Boelcke: why, or how?
[05:28] <music_man_nz> I can't remove an item from the menu. The program has been deleted, but still comes up under "Other"
[05:28] <[erisco] > any other screen recorders OTHER than instanbul?
[05:28] <music_man_nz> NZ - New Zealand
[05:28] <Boelcke> globe, yeah, but if I'm just interested in backing up my stuff, I wouldn't want that, right?
[05:28] <phire_mIRC> music man nz: me too
[05:28] <koko775> i'm running firefox 2, but upon loading a new page, in most cases (for some reason except for google) FF's screen doesn't refresh and I have to resize the text to get it to refresh
[05:28] <RhiNo> pm me if ur tryin to help me there is a crap load of talking in here lol
[05:28] <[erisco] > istanbul*
[05:28] <godtvisken> Is Ubuntu 6.10 already out?
[05:28] <Tatey> grndslm: no
[05:28] <jbroome> no
[05:28] <Tatey> sorry, godtvisken
[05:28] <fluvvell> music_man_nz, ah a fellow kiwi.
[05:28] <jbroome> it'll be in the topic when it's out, trust me
[05:28] <globe> Boelcke: I would take them, but that might just be a personal thing
[05:28] <Boelcke> I'm thinking of, if my system blows up, I'll probably re-install ubuntu anyway -- I just want my data, files, pictures, etc.
[05:29] <music_man_nz> Yay go kiwis!
[05:29] <music_man_nz> I'm in Wellington
[05:29] <Boelcke> globe, ok, but when restoring a system, would you copy them into your new home?
[05:29] <koko775> i tried it both with edgy's firefox package and a nightly i downloaded -- same problem
[05:29] <Tatey> Aussies > Kiwi's ;)
[05:29] <jbroome> i'm in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:29] <leonel> any ETA for tomorrow's release ?
[05:29] <globe> Boelcke: sure, but any customized settings would be gone.
[05:29] <koko775> can anyone help me?
[05:29] <music_man_nz> lol
[05:29] <jbroome> go there
[05:29] <music_man_nz> Kiwis >>>>>>>>>>> Aussies
[05:29] <koko775> i installed Beryl, perhaps that's messing firefox up?
[05:29] <phire_mIRC> RhiNo, I don't know anything about Ndiswrapper, sorry. You could try loiking here http://antonym.org/node/89
[05:29] <godtvisken> Is Ubuntu 6.10 already out?
[05:30] <tritium> music_man_nz:, Tatey: stay on topic, please
[05:30] <jbroome> NO
[05:30] <tritium> no, godtvisken
[05:30] <godtvisken> tritium: when comes it out?
[05:30] <Flannel> !ef
[05:30] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:30] <Tatey> tritium: I apologise
[05:30] <Boelcke> globe, I guess I'm really asking whether I'm backing up some files, or backing up enough stuff to easily restore my system, eh?
[05:30] <tritium> Tatey: no worries
[05:30] <jbroome> out it comes on 26th
[05:30] <koko775> hello?
[05:30] <koko775> can anyone help?
[05:30] <tritium> godtvisken: soon!
[05:30] <grndslm> why don't you goobers look at distrowatch.com or the friggin' ubuntu.com homepage for pete's sake!?!?!?!?
[05:30] <godtvisken> sorry i not mean to be rude
[05:30] <globe> Boelcke: yep.
[05:30] <tritium> be nice, grndslm
[05:30] <RhiNo> can someone pm me and help me?
[05:31] <koko775> um, not being able to use firefox kind of decreases my productivity :<
[05:31] <grndslm> godtvisken, i'm sorry....you're not a goober
[05:31] <vertana> Does anybody know what will change from Edgy Eft Beta to Edgy Eft Final (tomorrow)?
[05:31] <jbinder> !schedule
[05:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:31] <globe> koko775: why cannot you use ff?
[05:31] <godtvisken> grndslm: what means goober?
[05:31] <Tatey> vertana: probably nothing
[05:31] <Boelcke> globe, ok, then one more question: If I'm going for the "whole system" backup, I guess there are other dirs I'd want to include too, right?
[05:31] <CppIsWeird> tatey: nothing matches VNC
[05:31] <koko775> globe: because the screen won't refresh, i have to press ctrl-minus to get it to refresh
[05:31] <koko775> er, the page in ff
[05:31] <koko775> won't refresh
[05:31] <vertana> Well just smack me down Tatey :P
[05:31] <koko775> the title changes
[05:31] <grndslm> godtvisken, i'm honestly not sure....try typing "define:goober" into google
[05:32] <koko775> and it doesn't update the display for whatever reason
[05:32] <fluvvell> music_man_nz, are you using Edgy, or Dpper?
[05:32] <fluvvell> Dapper
[05:32] <koko775> i just installed edgy and on top of it, beryl
[05:32] <globe> Boelcke: probably, but I couldnt tell you what the are.  /home/ is probably where most of your files are, unless you compulsively save somewhere else
[05:32] <globe> koko775: is it a problem with ff or xwindows
[05:33] <Boelcke> Thanks.
[05:33] <globe> Boelcke: sure
[05:33] <koko775> how do i tell?
[05:33] <globe> koko775: do other programs not refresh?
[05:33] <koko775> well, epiphany works fine
[05:34] <globe> koko775: I would bet that the problem is not ff, but somewhere in you video card drivers
[05:34] <koko775> i'm using the computer right now, with xchat
[05:34] <CppIsWeird> what is the vnc server called? i need to restart the server
[05:34] <lasindi> Hi everyone, is there a specific time when Edgy will be released? (I ask since it's October 26 in certain timezones.)
[05:34] <calamari> hi
[05:34] <globe> koko775: but thats a bet
[05:34] <phire_NZ> !ef
[05:34] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:34] <globe> CppIsWeird: ps -la,
[05:34] <lasindi> Ah
[05:34] <pixelPOET> hullo, all!
[05:34] <phire_NZ> hello
[05:35] <Born_In_Xixax> koko775: might try either making sure your video driver is the latest/greatest, or changing it to something vanilla like vesa
[05:35] <lasindi> phire_NZ: out of curiosity, who finalizes it for download?
[05:35] <grndslm> umm....so i've got a strange question....i got this fancy shmancy new 320gb sata hd and i plugged it in....but when it's plugged in the bios always freezes at "Detecting IDE drives..." even tho it's not an ide drive, and reboots a few minutes later....and when the sata hd is unplugged, the bios works perfectly. WHAT GIVES?!?
[05:35] <La_PaRCa> Hey. How do I get apt-get to ignore a dependency that is not installable?
[05:35] <CppIsWeird> globe, that didnt do anything useful
[05:35] <globe> CppIsWeird: that will list all the processes, then you should be able to find what vncserver you are using
[05:35] <phire_NZ> lasindi: no idea
[05:35] <koko775> Born_In_Xixax: it is the latest/greatest, and i'm reluctant to disable acceleration since that would probably cripple beryl
[05:35] <calamari> anyone know how to use the cups interface?  I don't know what to use for username and password
[05:35] <RancidLM> hey all, so i just got this new LG monitor and set up the resolution to the 1680x1050  but all the text looks horible im not sure if its my xorg configurations but is there a way to make the readible? thnx
[05:35] <Born_In_Xixax> koko775: at least it would confirm that it's a video driver issue
[05:36] <koko775> doesn't epiphany use the gecko rendering engine? there's no reason that ff should be specifically targeted :/
[05:36] <koko775> true
[05:36] <koko775> i'll try it without starting beryl
[05:36] <Born_In_Xixax> not sure if there is any way to change the way FF uses video accel...probably not :/
[05:36] <Born_In_Xixax> use Opera :)
[05:36] <koko775> brb or bbl depending on what happens
[05:36] <CppIsWeird> i do not see any reference to it in there
[05:36] <globe> koko775: good luck
[05:36] <phire_NZ> La_PaRCa: I'm no expert, but --force might work, however it might mess some things up
[05:36] <McGragger> i am crashing around every 10 minutes, i think it is beryl, how do i know for sure
[05:37] <Born_In_Xixax> disable beryl?
[05:37] <grndslm> McGragger, try removing beryl and see if you're still crashing
[05:37] <RhiNo> Can someone please help me get my wireless network set up i have installed ndiswrapper and my network card is linksys wireless g (wpc45g ver 1.2)
[05:37] <koko775> hmm
[05:37] <McGragger> i said that wrong, i am pretty sure it is, or a combination of things
[05:37] <globe> RhiNo: does the card work with ndiswrapper?
[05:37] <koko775> with beryl disabled, still the same problem
[05:37] <Born_In_Xixax> RhiNo: have you run 'ndiswrapper -i yourfile.inf'  ?
[05:37] <GhostFreeman> Any plans to bundle Zfone in Edgy>
[05:37] <RhiNo> yes
[05:38] <RhiNo> im pretty sure i have
[05:38] <tritium> GhostFreeman: no, too late for any additions to edgy
[05:38] <Born_In_Xixax> so the card does not appear at all under the network manager?
[05:38] <RhiNo> i was talking to someone else then he had to go
[05:38] <globe> RhiNo: what are you trying to do now....can you establish a connection?
[05:38] <McGragger> how do i look at system logs to diagnose the problem?
[05:38] <RhiNo> yes it does as eth1
[05:38] <RhiNo> it will connect if i hook it up via ethernet
[05:38] <Kawaii-Panda>  /var/log?
[05:38] <RhiNo> but if i try the wireless i cannot get it
[05:38] <RhiNo> which is how i want it since it is my laptop
[05:38] <Demonic> Hey everyone
[05:39] <phire_NZ> McGragger: they are in /var/log/
[05:39] <Born_In_Xixax> RhiNo: dapper or edgy?
[05:39] <RhiNo> huh
[05:39] <Kawaii-Panda> im sure they are, phire.
[05:39] <GhostFreeman> thanks tritium
[05:39] <globe> RhiNo: what ubuntu are you using?
[05:39] <Born_In_Xixax> Ubuntu 6.04 or 6.10 ?
[05:39] <RhiNo> not sure
[05:39] <RhiNo> how do i find out
[05:39] <Flannel> RhiNo: lsb_release -a
[05:39] <Born_In_Xixax> help, about?
[05:39] <Kawaii-Panda> does your firefox icon have a fox?
[05:39] <RhiNo> 6.06
[05:39] <RhiNo> drapper
[05:39] <McGragger> phire_NZ: and what might I look for?
[05:40] <rabbitonly> ?
[05:40] <grndslm> umm....so i've got a strange question....i got this fancy shmancy new 320gb sata hd and i plugged it in....but when it's plugged in the bios always freezes at "Detecting IDE drives..." even tho it's not an ide drive, and reboots a few minutes later....and when the sata hd is unplugged, the bios works perfectly. WHAT GIVES?!?
[05:40] <lainproliant> hello :)
[05:40] <snooky> hi all
[05:40] <RhiNo> ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS drapper
[05:40] <Born_In_Xixax> if you do 'ifconfig' does the eth device appear to have an IP address and all that?
[05:40] <poningru> !ef
[05:40] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:40] <snooky> i dont really good speak english but i have a problem
[05:40] <lainproliant> i have a Anjuta related question
[05:40] <globe> grndslm: I would probably start with the mobo manufacturers w/s, or google
[05:40] <poningru> snooky: whatup?
[05:40] <RhiNo> if i do ifconfig it only shows "lo"
[05:40] <RhiNo> if i do ifconfig -a
[05:41] <Flannel> snooky: what language?
[05:41] <snooky> german
[05:41] <Flannel> !de
[05:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:41] <Milpool> is there anyone here who can possibly help me with my beryl/xgl
[05:41] <RhiNo> it shows under eth1 no ip
[05:41] <RhiNo> which is where it should be
[05:41] <Munchkinguy> goodnight
[05:41] <Toma-> Milbot: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:41] <Born_In_Xixax> what happens when you do 'sudo ifup eth1'  ?
[05:41] <snooky> at #ubuntu-de all sleep
[05:41] <globe> RhiNo: $ iwconfig
[05:41] <Flannel> snooky: alright, was worth a try ;)
[05:41] <lainproliant> is anyone here good with automake? ^_^
[05:42] <Milpool> sorry there was no one answering in there and thought i would try here
[05:42] <brian98> any nagios guru?
[05:42] <brian98> gurus even
[05:42] <RhiNo> if i do sudo ifup eth1
[05:42] <snooky> i winat configure djplay, but by ./configure i become a error => configure: error: QTDIR must be properly set.
[05:42] <RhiNo> it says interface eth1 already configured
[05:42] <RhiNo> im using web 128 bit encryption
[05:43] <Born_In_Xixax> RhiNo: sorry, that's all the stuff I know :/
[05:43] <RhiNo> 26 hex digits
[05:43] <RhiNo> oh
[05:43] <globe> RhiNo: you will need to use iwconfig
[05:43] <zoidberg> hey...does anyone know why with MSN messenger in GAIM...it gives me an "error with switchboard" when i try to message someone
[05:43] <RhiNo> ok i did iwconfig
[05:43] <lainproliant> hmm
[05:43] <brian98> RhiNo, turn off all encryption , get it working
[05:43] <RhiNo> ok
[05:43] <lainproliant> i have gotten that before zoidberg
[05:43] <globe> RhiNo: I don't remember the syntax, but if you man iwconfig it will have all the quirks
[05:43] <brian98> RhiNo, turn off all encryption , then put your encryption back on
[05:44] <carthik> I have a dell inspiron 6400 and can't get a high res display - i have tried the usual tricks, I use the vesa driver. I have added a modeline and yet it does not start with a higher resolution. any help is welcome
[05:44] <RhiNo> do i leave wep key blank?
[05:44] <lainproliant> i am not sure what causes it but its only temporary in my case
[05:44] <RhiNo> if i do it with all encryption
[05:44] <zoidberg> lainproliant: so should i log out and try again or something?
[05:44] <lainproliant> yeah that might work
[05:44] <globe> RhiNo: yes, if you use no encryption, leave wep key blank
[05:44] <RhiNo> ok
[05:44] <RhiNo> also ive noticed
[05:45] <RhiNo> when i activate eth1 which is wireless
[05:45] <lainproliant> any programmers ? ^_^
[05:45] <Flannel> snooky: do you have the right qt -dev libraries installed?
[05:45] <RhiNo> i click ok and such then reopen the network settings
[05:45] <lainproliant> i need help getting my Anjuta working
[05:45] <RhiNo> its not active anymore
[05:45] <brian98> no one into nagios then
[05:45] <Born_In_Xixax> carthik: have you tried 'sudo dpkh-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:45] <brian98> not to worry
[05:45] <mikm[laptop] > dpkg
[05:45] <carthik> Born_In_Xixax: yes, I have
[05:45] <Born_In_Xixax> 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure...'
[05:45] <Megaqwerty> when I'm using firefox, the audio from anything done in flash is way out of sync with the video. Is that just a problem with flash 7, or is my computer not configured correctly?
[05:45] <digiKnighter> edgy eft , when ?
[05:45] <LeoStewart> !ef
[05:45] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:45] <snooky> Flannel yes
[05:45] <globe> wow...talk about the question of the day!
[05:45] <carthik> I have tried that, I have tried all the things I have known to work in the past..  this totally beats me.
[05:45] <Born_In_Xixax> carthik: k...first couple of times I used it, I did not realize you have to specifically select the resolution modes to make available, by putting a star next to each one...
[05:45] <LeoStewart> I'm getting the hang of these little factoid things...
[05:46] <carthik> Born_In_Xixax: yup, did that.
[05:46] <Kawaii-Panda> edgy +1, when?
[05:46] <Flannel> Megaqwerty: it's a common flash7 issue, you could try flash9
[05:46] <brian98> Well, I'm running edgy and I just got a ton of updates ;)
[05:46] <Megaqwerty> Flannel: thanks
[05:46] <carthik> Kawaii-Panda: april 18th or something like that
[05:46] <brian98> so...
[05:46] <Flannel> Megaqwerty: see !flash9 for the deb ;)
[05:46] <RhiNo> i cant get wireless working without encryption either
[05:46] <Kawaii-Panda> cool... right in time for april fools! :)
[05:46] <globe> RhiNo: what are you doing to get it working?
[05:46] <Megaqwerty> brain98: interesting, I should check my update manager as well....
[05:46] <RhiNo> i went to config it
[05:47] <RhiNo> i mean properties
[05:47] <RhiNo> and set the essid
[05:47] <RhiNo> and dchp
[05:47] <RhiNo> then activated eth1
[05:47] <tritium> !enter
[05:47] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:47] <Megaqwerty> whoa yeah, brian98 is correct.
[05:48] <globe> RhiNo: k. lets try this from the terminal.
[05:48] <RhiNo> ok
[05:48] <Born_In_Xixax> carthik: I assume you've found this how-to link: http://individual.utoronto.ca/jaelle_kitty/inspiron6400/H
[05:48] <RhiNo> globe can u pm me?
[05:48] <RhiNo> easier to follow in a pm lol
[05:49] <lainproliant> Anyone here good with Anjuta?
[05:49] <RhiNo> but if not i do now have terminal open
[05:49] <edgy> Hi, I have an edgy chroot system that I want to turn into a fully bootable system now so I cp -a all the files to a new partition and now want to install grub on that partition. How should I convince the mbr to read the new one?
[05:49] <fwit> Anders are you there
[05:49] <globe> RhiNo: join #RhiNo-gl0be
[05:49] <fwit> nvm
[05:49] <Flannel> edgy: install grub to the MBR
[05:49] <Flannel> !tell edgy about grub
[05:50] <four> could someone tell me the command to mount a drive at start up
[05:50] <four> network drive
[05:50] <four> my mistaker
[05:51] <brian98> ntfs?
[05:51] <four> ya
[05:51] <Toma-> nfs?
[05:51] <Flannel> !samba
[05:51] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:51] <edgy> Flannel: thx a lot I am reading now ...
[05:51] <four> i use i use sudo mount -t smbfs //server/e //home/four/test   taht to mount it
[05:51] <mattSta> how can i use my ipod shuffle in ubuntu
[05:51] <four> but someone toldme i could auto mout it
[05:52] <Omicron> morning all.
[05:52] <AdelaideLuke> four: Example: mount -t ntfs /dev/hdaX /media/X
[05:52] <Megaqwerty> is there a blog or something like that on the status of being able to write to ntfs?
[05:52] <Tatey> NTFS has full read/write support as of 2.6.18
[05:52] <four> adelaideluke: that will moun it at start up?
[05:52] <mattSta> can someone out there please help me upload songs from my computer to my ipod
[05:53] <four> well its a nework drive
[05:53] <four> is the thing
[05:53] <Megaqwerty> Tatey: is that a kernel version?
[05:53] <Born_In_Xixax> Megaqwerty: in the Ubuntu forums (ubuntuforums.org) there is a HowTo on how to enable NTFS read/write
[05:53] <Tatey> mattSta: might want to check out Quod Libet or GTKpod
[05:53] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[05:53] <Tatey> mattSta: yes, that's the latest stable kernel version
[05:53] <calamari> Tatey: full?  you mean it can modify files and change their size?
[05:53] <Omicron> Triade, R U out there??
[05:53] <Tatey> calamari: yes, the NTFS-3G drive has been merged into the main tree (2.6.18)
[05:53] <calamari> cool
[05:54] <AdelaideLuke> four... no you have to add the command to your etc/fstab file
[05:54] <four> thanks
[05:54] <Omicron> Guess not.
[05:54] <idel> Hi all, has someone a mplayer1RC1 precompiled deb package? I am trying by myself but the sound doesn't work :(
[05:54] <Omicron> Bye
[05:54] <Siph0n> hey, what is this driver for: mrv8k driver ?
[05:55] <mattSta> im having problems with packeges, something about lilypond-data
[05:56] <nilats> how do you optimize the sources.list file?
[05:56] <nilats> to put the fastest resps first, delete duplicates etc
[05:56] <Megaqwerty> Born_In_Xixax: it says that it is in beta. Am I looking at the wrong howto?
[05:56] <mattSta> im having problems with packeges, something about lilypond-data
[05:57] <Leone> whats the kernel i must install to ubuntu breezy?
[05:57] <AdelaideLuke> Does anyone know if 6.10 is being released today?
[05:57] <Tatey> !edgyfinal
[05:57] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:58] <meat`2> is there an app i can use on ubuntu to remote access a windows machine?
[05:58] <Kawaii-Panda> idea: why not put the answer to the question of the day (when will edgy arrive) as the default welcome message for this chatroom?
[05:58] <tritium> meat`2: yes, and it's already installed for you under Applications->Internet
[05:58] <edgy> meat`2: I guess vnc
[05:58] <ianmacgregor> meat`2: Yes, it's called nautilus :)
[05:59] <Maczimus> no- i think he means the terminal client
[05:59] <ianmacgregor> Ahh, ok
[05:59] <Maczimus> it has a remote desktop option
[05:59] <meat`2> yeah something like vnc
[05:59] <Maczimus> yeah you can do vnc ssh and the like with it
[06:00] <edgy> meat`2: vino e.g
[06:00] <aztektum> what's the command to restart GDM from the CLI
[06:00] <rooly> does anyone have an faq or a howto for the ubuntu server?
[06:01] <ClayG> I saw a good one on a site
[06:01] <Megaqwerty> I am looking at a howto on NTFS for linux, and it says that it is still in beta. Is this correct? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=Ntfs
[06:01] <ClayG> for a webserver? or installing with the "server" arguement?
[06:01] <rooly> for a webserver
[06:01] <rooly> the server installer package
[06:02] <AdelaideLuke> Megaqwerty: I believe so. Reading NTFS drives is ok, writting is still a slight issue (i had none, however)...
[06:03] <ClayG> I know if you use ther server install it just means it will install the base, no x-windows stuff like that
[06:03] <ClayG> but there is a good howto on how to make it a full blown webserver, similar to cpanel
[06:03] <Maczimus> yeah that was a suprise...
[06:04] <Maczimus> trying to figure out how to download webmin....prolly have to use wget
[06:04] <Megaqwerty> AdelaideLuke: Okay, thanks. I don't want to chance it unless it is totally safe, as I would be transferring files from my computer to different computers (running windows) on my network. The people who use them wouldn't be happy if I messed up their HD :-P Thanks.
[06:04] <Maczimus> on server that is
[06:04] <Siph0n> how can i check which chipset my wireless card uses? cause im not sure if i should be using the madwifi or ndiswrapper drivers
[06:04] <Born_In_Xixax> Megaqwerty: if you are transferring files over the network, you will be using Samba, which is going to be safe
[06:05] <rooly> i'm stupid enough to attempt a linux webserver without much experience with unix os's at all
[06:05] <Born_In_Xixax> NTFS read/write is a method to do so to NTFS partitions on the same box
[06:05] <Clinton__> rooly: that makes you no different than anyone else!
[06:05] <Born_In_Xixax> since NTFS is MS, and not open source, it may never be 100%
[06:05] <bawnpa> ntfs write is masochists
[06:05] <AdelaideLuke> Megaqwerty: Np :)  But again; I had no issues! However; always better to be safe than sorry!
[06:06] <Megaqwerty> yeah, that seems to be a problem with them. Anyone know why they don't change to the more efficient ext3?
[06:06] <rooly> so, i googled for an faq, but i haven't found one yet
[06:06] <Megaqwerty> (out of curiosity)
[06:06] <Madpilot> ubotu, lamp | rooly
[06:06] <ubotu> rooly: lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[06:06] <Born_In_Xixax> Megaqwerty: to reiterate, mounting/connecting to computers over the network (i.e. via windows networking protocol) is totally safe
[06:06] <rooly> sweet
[06:06] <rooly> thx
[06:07] <Megaqwerty> Born_In_Xixax: I'm asking if it is safe to write to those HDs, I have no problem copying from them.
[06:08] <Born_In_Xixax> yes, over the network
[06:08] <Born_In_Xixax> if you install an NTFS format hard drive in your linux PC, then you will be using NTFS-3G, and it is risker
[06:08] <JonBoon> how do i install a tar.gz ?
[06:08] <bnoki> hiya.
[06:09] <Maczimus> if you are writing to them over the network your linux machine is just telling windows to write the file. then windows takes care of it. otherwise if you are trying to write to a hard drive in a machine in linux then that's when you have problems.
[06:09] <bnoki> i want to install ubuntu from a usb drive.. any projects regarding that ? i've got a laptop with only a floppy disk but no other machines in the house with floppies :)
[06:09] <Born_In_Xixax> JonBoon: tar.gz is equivalent to .zip format...it is a compressed archive.  Generally you double click it to open it with archive manager...then look for a README or INSTALL file to tell you where to go from there
[06:09] <sfulmer> is it soup yet?
[06:09] <AdelaideLuke> JonBoon: thats a compressed file; you need to extract it using something like gzip
[06:09] <cherubiel> JonBoon: depends, the tar.gz might mostly contain sources; you'd need to compile it manually and generate sources; on the other hand, if it contains the binaries, just run them.
[06:10] <JonBoon> its the new firefox
[06:10] <cherubiel> JonBon: start with tar zxvf name.tar.gz
[06:10] <cherubiel> JonBoon: just run the above command, cd into the direcotyr; run ./firefox
[06:10] <Born_In_Xixax> don't listen to this command line fools!  just double click the tar.gz :P
[06:11] <cherubiel> Born_In_Xixax: well if he was on wmaker, what would he clikc on??!??
[06:11] <landexem> Okay so there;s an "xserver-xgl" package in Edgy'x universe component... if I install it (and dependencie) will that theoretically be everything I need to have XGL and related stuff?
[06:11] <Siph0n> I read in a forum post that the mrv8k driver that comes with ubuntu is defective and should be deleted, is that true? :)
[06:12] <Leone> whats the kernel i must install to ubuntu breezy?
[06:12] <Born_In_Xixax> if he was on wmaker, he would know how to handle a tar.gz...but j/k sorry :)
[06:12] <cherubiel> Born_In_Xixax: peace! :)
[06:12] <cherubiel> Leone: you should talk about repos, not kernel.
[06:13] <cherubiel> !repos
[06:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:13] <Leone> cherubiel, my sistem is not ready
[06:13] <Leone> i need the kernel
[06:13] <Leone> i must make aptitude install kernelxxx
[06:13] <Leone> what kernel must i write
[06:13] <cherubiel> Leone: what stage are you in the install?
[06:14] <Leone> i am installing with  ebootstrap
[06:14] <Leone> i need the kernel
[06:14] <iovar> !ef
[06:14] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[06:14] <Leone> cherubiel, root@dhcppc0:/#  ls /boot/
[06:14] <Leone> coffee.bmp  debianlilo.bmp  memtest86+.bin  sid.bmp
[06:14] <Leone> debian.bmp  grub            sarge.bmp
[06:15] <Kawaii-Panda> !fa
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <Kawaii-Panda> what? no release date for feisty fawn?
[06:15] <Siph0n> lol
[06:16] <ianmacgregor> Kawaii-Panda: Wouldn't that be ff?
[06:16] <dotwaffle> mdadm help needed - wanting to grow RAID 5, 3 devices to 4 devices. Error re: Cannot set size/shape. Ideas?
[06:16] <Kawaii-Panda> !ff
[06:16] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:16] <Maczimus> i think i read april-19th for fawn
[06:16] <AdelaideLuke> Kawaii-Panda: yah april 19 :p
[06:16] <Kawaii-Panda> i dont think so ian...
[06:16] <ClayG> anyone here use a laptop mount for their car? or gps for lappy? anyone here use a laptop mount for their car? or gps for lappy?
[06:16] <dotwaffle> ClayG: Yeah
[06:16] <dotwaffle> ClayG: GPS plugged into laptop
[06:16] <Leone> i need install kernel
[06:16] <Leone> to brezzy
[06:16] <dotwaffle> Leone: Which? Why?
[06:16] <Leone> what kernel do i need
[06:16] <ClayG> dotwaffle: should i get the cheapest?
[06:16] <ClayG> as far as receivers go , are they all the same?
[06:17] <AdelaideLuke> Kawaii-Panda: The Fridge knows all :p
[06:17] <Leone> root@dhcppc0:/#  ls /boot/
[06:17] <Leone> coffee.bmp  debianlilo.bmp  memtest86+.bin  sid.bmp
[06:17] <Leone> debian.bmp  grub            sarge.bmp
[06:17] <Leone>  dotwaffle
[06:17] <ClayG> besides size and clunkyness
[06:17] <ClayG> Leone: can you take that to a pastebin?
[06:17] <dotwaffle> Leone: Install package "linux-386" for breezy. It will pull in the required packages for you.
[06:17] <ClayG> my bad
[06:17] <dotwaffle> ClayG: Where in the world are you?
[06:17] <ianmacgregor> Leone: M box is fully updated and I have 2.6.15-27-386 as my latest kernel.. if that helps.
[06:17] <ClayG> Florida
[06:17] <Leone> dotsony, i think it will not wotk becouse the stable is edgy now
[06:17] <Leone> ok thanks ianmacgregor
[06:18] <dotwaffle> ClayG: Ok, America then ;) Get any USB or PS/2 GPS that does NOT have a screen or the "Microsoft" tag on it, and it'll work out of the box, they are essentially usb->Serial adaptors, and any GPS program can talk to them over normal /dev/ttsy0 etc - essentially, plug and play ;)
[06:18] <Madpilot> Leone, no, Edgy isn't stable for another 24hrs or so ;)
[06:18] <dotwaffle> ClayG: At least that's thecase in the UK.
[06:18] <blanky> hey guys
[06:19] <JonBoon> blarg! why isnt firefox2 just in the synaptic package manager??
[06:19] <blanky> in ssh, what's the command to copy things to my computer?
[06:19] <blanky> scp what what?
[06:19] <dotwaffle> Leone: make sure your etc/apt/sources.list has breezy in it, instead of edgy then
[06:19] <blanky> i sshed into my other computer and I need to copy the /boot/grub/menu.lst onto mine
[06:19] <Madpilot> JonBoon, because it's still beta?
[06:19] <wastrel> scp local.file user@remote.host:
[06:19] <dotwaffle> JonBoon: It's referenced to Firefox, just install firefox, all the magic is done for you
[06:19] <blanky> what's the command, scp ?
[06:19] <blanky> thanks wastrel
[06:19] <ianmacgregor> blanky: scp user@host:/path/source /path/target
[06:20] <dotwaffle> blanky: sudo scp HOST:/boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.list
[06:20] <dotwaffle> mdadm help needed - wanting to grow RAID 5, 3 devices to 4 devices. Error re: Cannot set size/shape. Ideas?
[06:20] <blanky> ianmacgregor, wastrel, dotwaffle, thanks
[06:20] <dotwaffle> no probs
[06:21] <blanky> wait, if my computer ip is 127.0.0.1 and I'm sshe'd into the computer which contains the file I want to download, what would I do, assuming the file is called test.txt
[06:21] <blanky> sorry for the hassle but I'm kind of in a panick at the moment heh
[06:21] <dotwaffle> blanky: don't look at 127.0.0.1, that's "localhost" find another ip in ifconfig
[06:21] <blanky> I know that that's the localhost
[06:21] <dotwaffle> oh ok ;)
[06:22] <dotwaffle> blanky: sudo scp 1.2.3.4:/boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.list
[06:22] <blanky> okay thanks dotwaffle
[06:22] <dotwaffle> no probs
[06:22] <blanky> so 1.2.3.4 is the computer im using to ssh into the computer which contains the file?
[06:22] <dotwaffle> correct
[06:22] <dotwaffle> well...
[06:22] <blanky> basically, I sshed into my other computer which has a file I need, how can I put it on mine, oh okay thanks for the help dotwaffle
[06:23] <dotwaffle> machine that has the file is 1.2.3.4
[06:23] <ClayG> dotwaffle: whats the scoop on gps, im in florida
[06:23] <ClayG> lol
[06:23] <ClayG> does it matter if i get the cheapest, as far as the receivers go?
[06:23] <dotwaffle> ClayG: In the UK, at least, the cheaper, the more chance they're going to be supported.
[06:23] <ClayG> I mean the data is going to be processed/formatted by the computer so i wouldn't imagine it matters
[06:23] <dotwaffle> ClayG: Wait one second.
[06:23] <ClayG> no kiffinh
[06:23] <ClayG> kiffinh
[06:23] <ClayG> er whatever
[06:23] <ClayG> lol
[06:23] <cafuego> gleesond: Are you in Florida, plus or minus 500 miles? ;-)
[06:23] <ClayG> ok, the next issue is laptop mounts
[06:24] <ClayG> i want a good one
[06:24] <ClayG> something like whast the cops use
[06:24] <Jay2> hey, folks
[06:24] <timhudson> hrllo
[06:24] <ClayG> i want to be able to have my laptop in the middle to use, watch DVD's , use the GPS or if i decide to get raped on price, use the internet
[06:24] <ClayG> do you know anything about thaT?
[06:24] <ClayG> laptop mounts?
[06:24] <ClayG> or do you just keep yours on the passenger seat
[06:25] <timhudson> passenger seat for me
[06:25] <ClayG> that is an option (temp) but iumagine having it in the middle , held up in the air, easy to use
[06:25] <dotwaffle> ClayG: I have a co-driver to use the laptop, but if not, laptop in passenger well, scren pointing towards me.
[06:25] <ClayG> transforming your laptop into a awesome dvd player
[06:25] <dotwaffle> ClayG: In the UK at least, that would be illegal. restricts field of vision
[06:26] <ClayG> yeah everyone has the preferences
[06:26] <ClayG> I prefer the midlde
[06:26] <ClayG> middle
[06:26] <blanky> dotwaffle, sorry for the trouble, but if you're already ssh'ed into the computer that contains the file you want, is there another command I should use?
[06:26] <dotwaffle> I'd recommend you don't especially if you're driving - don't want you to become another statistic ;)
[06:26] <dotwaffle> blanky: if you're ssh'd in, then you could either log out, or just scp the file back over...
[06:26] <ianmacgregor> blanky: Are you using gnome-terminal?
[06:26] <ClayG> dotwaffle: haven't taken the law  into consideration, not one of the factors im using
[06:27] <Jay2> I am fairly new to Ubuntu. Got xchat working, got my linux box networked to my windows box. Downloaded Quasar (business software), got it extracted, but can't figure out how to install it.
[06:27] <ClayG> but it is good to know
[06:27] <blanky> ianmacgregor, I'm on windows, using PuTTY
[06:27] <timhudson> Is there a way to install ubuntu on my ibook, with out it crapping out my osx install? I want to dual boot, but I'm very leary of killing my osx install
[06:27] <blanky> dotwaffle, how would I do the latter, with the command you gave me?
[06:27] <FastZ> Jay2: what type of file did you download?
[06:27] <blanky> I tried doing
[06:27] <AdamKili> what command do i use to find my IP address in the terminal? (e.g. 192.168.0.5
[06:27] <dotwaffle> blanky => PM
[06:27] <AdamKili> )
[06:27] <blanky> sudo scp 1.2.3.4:/book/grub/menu.lst .
[06:28] <Born_In_Xixax> AdamKili: ifconfig
[06:28] <blanky> assuming 1.2.3.4 is the ip (i changed it of course) and it asked me for the password, I typed it in, and it kept saying wrong password
[06:28] <blanky> okay dotwaffle
[06:28] <Jay2> FastZ: /home/malcowee/Desktop/quasar-1.4.7_GPL.tgz
[06:28] <AdamKili> ty
[06:28] <d3v1ant_0n3> Just a super quickie- it's not worth me starting a forum thread over- but why, if i run Nautilus from within Kubuntu, does it load my GNOME wallpaper up with the nautilus browser?
[06:29] <wastrel> d3v1ant_0n3:  nautilus is responsible for drawing the root window in gnome.  there should be a pref to turn that off...
[06:29] <ianmacgregor> d3v1ant_0n3: Because nautilus manages the desktop as default behaviour. If you don't want it to do that, run: nautilus --no-desktop
[06:29] <FastZ> Jay2: try alien -d quasar-1.4.7_GPL.tgz while in the /home/malcowee/Desktop directory
[06:29] <AdelaideLuke> AdamKili: You can also use netstat
[06:29] <d3v1ant_0n3> ah ok. ty!
[06:30] <AdelaideLuke> it's a little more verbose, however! :p
[06:30] <Jay2> FastZ:  after I got it unpacted , here's what I have:  /home/malcowee/Desktop/quasar-1.4.7_GPL
[06:30] <Stravos> Should glxinfo show Mesa for the OpenGL renderer with the open source radeon driver?
[06:30] <FastZ> Jay2:  and that is a folder right?
[06:31] <Jay2> yes FastZ
[06:31] <timhudson> Is there a way to install ubuntu on my ibook, with out it crapping out my osx install? I want to dual boot, but I'm very leary of killing my osx install?
[06:31] <FastZ> Jay2: is there a ./config in there
[06:31] <Jay2> yes, I'm sure
[06:31] <rebelfallen> what is a good scan range for a 1024x768 monitor? My settings are:     HorizSync    31.5 - 48.5   /   VertRefresh  40.0 - 60.0    but the monitor still says "OUT OF SCAN RANGE 64.0kHz/ 60Hz"
[06:31] <rebelfallen> The secondary monitor is a sony 15" lcd
[06:32] <FastZ> Jay2: have you tried to open up a terminal and run the command ./configure ?
[06:32] <FastZ> Jay2: or ./config, my mistake
[06:32] <Jay2> no, how do I do that?
[06:33] <ianmacgregor> FastZ: iirc, it's ./configure
[06:33] <FastZ> ianmacgregor: thanks for the correction
[06:34] <OSV> Hey!
[06:34] <FastZ> Jay2:  terminal into the quasar-1.4.7_GPL folder
[06:34] <Jay2> how does one open up a terminal?????????
[06:34] <rebelfallen> uh oh
[06:34] <yunfei> hello
[06:34] <rebelfallen> I just angered the monitor gods
[06:34] <ianmacgregor> Jay2: ALT+F2, type in: gnome-terminal
[06:34] <OSV> How can I listen to mp3 music in Ubuntu/GNU?
[06:34] <FastZ> Jay2: sorry, Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[06:35] <JonBoon> im trying to add xmms skins. how do i give myself permission to drag skins to the filesystem folder
[06:35] <Jay2> thanks, FastZ
[06:35] <FunnyLookinHat> OSV, restricted formats  :)
[06:35] <FunnyLookinHat> !restricted
[06:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:35] <Stravos> !mesa
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <FastZ> Jay2: no problem
[06:35] <OSV> FunnyLookinHat, ???
[06:36] <ianmacgregor> JonBoon: Skins for xmms can go into ~/.xmms/Skins
[06:36] <FunnyLookinHat> OSV, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:36] <FunnyLookinHat> OSV, that page will tell you how
[06:37] <Stravos> I guess I'll give it another shot... anyone know if "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 TCL" is correct in glxinfo if I'm running the 'radeon' driver?
[06:37] <Xitium> has 6.10 been released yet? The ubuntu site says 6.10 released but I can't find it for download
[06:37] <Vuen> what's up #ubuntu, I'm trying to play a winamp stream in mplayer and I get this: avisynth.dll
[06:38] <Vuen> i'm missing that file
[06:38] <Vuen> how do i get win32 libraries on here?
[06:38] <CientificoLoco> jrib,
[06:38] <CientificoLoco> hola
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> Xitium, so it has...   : )   Just give the site a bit of time to update the download pages
[06:38] <CientificoLoco> sorry
[06:38] <CientificoLoco> jrib, hello
[06:38] <CientificoLoco> jrib, I wanna install firefox 2 in my laptop and I think If I do that I can unfix it.
[06:39] <The_Jack_of_Club> cool 6.10 is released
[06:39] <FunnyLookinHat> Xitium, here's a link for ya  : )
[06:39] <iovar> !ef
[06:39] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[06:39] <FunnyLookinHat> Xitium, http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.10/
[06:39] <CientificoLoco> jrib, are you there?
[06:39] <Vuen> guys, mplayer says i'm missing this:
[06:39] <Vuen> Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll
[06:40] <Vuen> how do i get it?
[06:40] <The_Jack_of_Club> is it released...
[06:40] <RhiNo> Can someone please run me through how to remove my shit from ndiswrapper?
[06:40] <RancidLM> what is the command to run another Xsession?
[06:40] <DigitalNinja> How do I reinstall grub? I did an install of knoppix on the second drive (sdb). I need to put grub back on the first drive (sda)
[06:41] <ianmacgregor> RancidLM: startx -- 1:  I believe
[06:41] <The_Jack_of_Club> boo
[06:41] <The_Jack_of_Club> its not released
[06:41] <rebelfallen> what is a good scan range for a 1024x768 monitor? My settings are:     HorizSync    31.5 - 48.5   /   VertRefresh  40.0 - 60.0    but the monitor still says "OUT OF SCAN RANGE 64.0kHz/ 60Hz"
[06:41] <The_Jack_of_Club> got my hopes up with the changed front page
[06:41] <RhiNo> Can anyone help me Remove whats already in my ndiswrapper?
[06:42] <norbert_c> The_Jack_of_Club, its nearly lunchtime here too...
[06:42] <SaLsIcHa> ubuntu 6.10 is out o.O
[06:42] <ianmacgregor> rebelfallen: The best thing you can do is get your monitor make/model and google for specs.
[06:42] <Vuen> finally!
[06:42] <Vuen> crack open the shampagne!
[06:42] <RhiNo> globe are you there?
[06:42] <rebelfallen> I already have tried
[06:42] <SaLsIcHa> o.o
[06:42] <SaLsIcHa> omg
[06:42] <The_Jack_of_Club> so
[06:42] <SaLsIcHa> and i don't speek english @_@
[06:42] <The_Jack_of_Club> wait
[06:43] <SaLsIcHa> ;_;
[06:43] <ianmacgregor> rebelfallen: What make/model is the monitor (and what company)?
[06:43] <The_Jack_of_Club> is it or isnt it?
[06:43] <SaLsIcHa> www.ubuntu.com :P
[06:43] <Xitium> RhiNo: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Uninstall
[06:43] <norbert_c> its on front page in text only...
[06:43] <The_Jack_of_Club> uh huh
[06:43] <The_Jack_of_Club> welp its close
[06:43] <mnepton> soon
[06:44] <mnepton> not now. but soon. promise.
[06:44] <Xitium> to pass the time Im gonna install fc6 and check it out
[06:44] <RhiNo> ty that worked quick
[06:44] <CientificoLoco> jrib, are you there?
[06:44] <CientificoLoco> jrib, are you there?
[06:44] <The_Jack_of_Club> im still on my first real ubuntu install and i gotta say its the best ive ever used so i wanna be one of the first to get 6.10
[06:44] <mnepton> Xitium: you could check out yesterday's daily build of Edgy ....
[06:45] <globe> what is the point of runlevels?
[06:45] <timhudson> hmmm... Is there a way to speed up the trackpad of a G4 ibook in 6.06?
[06:45] <Xitium> mnepton: I could but Im only got one cd left and all the stores are currently closed :P
[06:46] <mnepton> you're not going to get FC6 on a single CD
[06:46] <Xitium> I have it burned on a dvd
[06:46] <hyperpenguin> Hi there! I'm looking to upgrade to Edgy, but my Dapper box doesn't think it needs any updates, even after apt-get update and then dist-upgrade. Any ideas?
[06:46] <ianmacgregor> Xitium: FC6 is five cd's
[06:46] <jbroome> hyperpenguin: yeah, wait for the final release
[06:46] <The_Jack_of_Club> fc5 was a big disappointment to me
[06:47] <hyperpenguin> The final release isn't out yet? That'd do it... lol
[06:47] <spdf> hyperpenguin, your repos are likely pointing to dapper still.
[06:47] <hyperpenguin> Ah right, they are.
[06:47] <Xitium> The_Jack_of_Club: me too I'm not expecting too much with 6
[06:47] <hyperpenguin> So I judt change every instance of "dapper" to "edgy" in sources.list?
[06:48] <rredd4> hper  yes
[06:48] <amicrawle> how do i get lxdvdrip in dapper
[06:48] <wikijeff> So is the final version of edgy out now?
[06:48] <iovar> !ef
[06:48] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[06:48] <The_Jack_of_Club> wikijeff: not yet
[06:48] <The_Jack_of_Club> but any moment now it will be
[06:48] <globe> hyperpenguin: I would bet that if you give it time, you will get a dist-upgrade notify
[06:48] <amicrawle> i'm trying to copy a dvd to iso so i can make may copies
[06:48] <_samuel> hello
[06:48] <mikepence> hello all
[06:48] <_samuel> when is 6.10 out?
[06:48] <hyperpenguin> Okay, thanks for the help, and sorry about the idiotic question.
[06:48] <wikijeff> The_Jack_of_Club, I'm on the edge of my seat. no pun intended
[06:48] <mikepence> this is my first night with kubuntu
[06:48] <Seaward> Hey all, could someone give me some time to help me with a DHCP server issue I'm having on ubuntu please?
[06:49] <The_Jack_of_Club> me too
[06:49] <rredd4> the ubuntu.com web page has 6.10 on it instead of 6.06
[06:49] <nalioth> Seaward: if you ask a question
[06:49] <The_Jack_of_Club> i have been really impressed by 6.06 so im totally there on 6.10
[06:49] <Autonomy> _samuel: Probably a matter of hours :p Maybe minutes... Who knows! :)
[06:49] <yoink> !ef
[06:49] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[06:49] <Xitium> rredd4 yeah but I can't find a download
[06:49] <mikepence> wow, too many users in here
[06:49] <phire_NZ> what time is it in PDT?
[06:49] <rredd4> Xitium oh, i have not looked
[06:49] <rredd4> yet
[06:50] <jbroome> 21:49
[06:50] <amicrawle> mike welcome to the world of Linux
[06:52] (wastrel/#ubuntu) why not just follow the howtos rather than trust a "use at your own risk" script
[06:53] (Kawaii-Panda/#ubuntu) anyone want to brainstorm new features for edgy +2, go to #ubuntu+2. thank you for listening to my (spammy) message. have a nice day.
[06:53] (Born_In_Xixax/#ubuntu) I assume it's all been debated
[06:53] (Kawaii-Panda/#ubuntu) theres so little people there.
[06:53] (Born_In_Xixax/#ubuntu) :)
[06:53] (ianmacgregor/#ubuntu) wastrel: That's been my question for quite a while
[06:53] (amicrawle/#ubuntu) in a closed world your computer in a box can't see out of the box! Only what they want you to see!
[06:53] (CientificoLoco/#ubuntu) somebody can help me to install the new version of firefox on my laptop
[06:53] <ictoanthbty> are there torrents of edgy yet?
[06:54] (Born_In_Xixax/#ubuntu) for me it's far easier, saves many hours of frustrating reading/configuring
[06:54] (amicrawle/#ubuntu) dapper is the latests
[06:54] (Born_In_Xixax/#ubuntu) but yes, it's caused me problems too, and shouldn't be recommended on any system you're not willing to trash
[06:54] (Born_In_Xixax/#ubuntu) so, no more will be spoken
[06:54] (CientificoLoco/#ubuntu) somebody can help me to install the new version of firefox on my laptop
[06:54] <[SUDO] Tux> join /#sudo
[06:54] (globe/#ubuntu) can ubuntu install osx programs?
[06:54] (amicrawle/#ubuntu) yes
[06:55] <amicrawle> sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[06:55] <Fujitsu> globe: Ubuntu != OS X
[06:55] <barnetod> sup guys
[06:55] <The_Jack_of_Club> when is firefox 2 gonna be in the repos?
[06:55] <jbroome> globe: no
[06:55] <barnetod> hey anyone know of a link for the official 6.10 release?
[06:55] <jbroome> there isn't one yet
[06:55] <The_Jack_of_Club> barnetod: not yet
[06:55] <barnetod> blarg lol
[06:55] <ArrenLex> Jack: In dapper? Never, since edgy comes out tomorrow. In edgy? It is already.
[06:55] <Autonomy> barnetod: nope! :p
[06:55] <amicrawle> i have 6.10
[06:56] <ictoanthbty> 6.10 rc?
[06:56] <phire_NZ> beta?
[06:56] <barnetod> i downloaded release candidate last night
[06:56] <|thunder> EDGY !   TOMORROW ??!?
[06:56] <|thunder> YES
[06:56] <GhostFreeman> when is 6.10 coming out?
[06:56] <Autonomy> amicrawl? what... RC! ???
[06:56] <rredd4> amicrawle  rc>
[06:56] <The_Jack_of_Club> oh thats cool
[06:56] <barnetod> today :)
[06:56] <rredd4> ?
[06:56] <ictoanthbty> edgy comes out today :/
[06:56] <GhostFreeman> !edgy
[06:56] <ictoanthbty> within 12 hours
[06:56] <globe> jbroome: thx
[06:56] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:56] <ArrenLex> The 26th.
[06:56] <tj__> barnetod: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/EdgyReleaseCandidate?highlight=%28release%29%7C%28edgy%29 (thats the best i've found)
[06:56] <GhostFreeman> !schedule
[06:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:56] <ArrenLex> Whether that's tomorrow or today depends on your timezone.
[06:56] <Tatey> must be getting close to release
[06:56] <adhoc_> !cifs
[06:56] <ictoanthbty> today damnit
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <ictoanthbty> thats why i think there should be torrents alreay :/
[06:56] <kismet_> ATI Driver question: is the 'ati' driver okay for use with Xgl/Beryl, or do I need the 'fglrx'?
[06:56] <gnubie> !schedule
[06:56] <Fujitsu> Tatey: Why?
[06:56] <ArrenLex> ksimet: you need fglrx. ati offers no 3D acceleration.
[06:56] <The_Jack_of_Club> its tomarrow in 4 minutes here
[06:57] <barnetod> im loading my first copy of ubuntu when 6.10 comes out
[06:57] <amicrawle> got in in linuxformat lat month
[06:57] <barnetod> been runnign two dogs
[06:57] <The_Jack_of_Club> so my guess is tomarrow :P
[06:57] <ictoanthbty> i tried just visiting the 6.10 ftp pages instead of 6.06, but theyre still on RC
[06:57] <Tatey> Fujitsu: the ubuntu.com home page has been upated
[06:57] <rebelfallen> I just entered the specs directly into xorg.conf and it still displays the OUT OF SCAN RANGE error
[06:57] <CientificoLoco> somebody can help me to install the new version of firefox on my laptop
[06:57] <amicrawle> sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[06:57] <ictoanthbty> yea about ubuntu page being updated,
[06:57] <amicrawle> sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[06:57] <amicrawle> sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[06:57] <ictoanthbty> does that mean theyre about to announce its released?
[06:57] <barnetod> it did get announced
[06:57] <barnetod> ubuntu.com
[06:58] <jmworx> Anyone else has got gnome applets crashing all the time?
[06:58] <ictoanthbty> fantastic, you are
[06:58] <kismet_> ArrenLex: there seems 2 ways to get fglrx, one is from ATI.com, any suggestion?
[06:58] <ictoanthbty> where is it then
[06:58] <barnetod> not uploaded
[06:58] <Tatey> mirrors aren't linked yet
[06:58] <ictoanthbty> there you go, not released :/
[06:58] <Fujitsu> It didn't get announced. The website got updated prematurely.
[06:58] <barnetod> all the stoner gotta wake up and put on their college servers
[06:58] <ArrenLex> kismet: use the one from the ubuntu repositories. It's so much easier.
[06:58] <ArrenLex> !ati
[06:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:58] <Fujitsu> There's no announcement.
[06:59] <barnetod> hey guys what are some tips to look for as far as first install
[06:59] <ictoanthbty> tips?
[06:59] <barnetod> ive already read about possible wireless issues
[06:59] <ArrenLex> barnetod: if the livecd boots fine you're set =)
[06:59] <kismet_> Thanks, ArrenLex!
[06:59] <tj__> get swiftfox, makes life easier
[06:59] <barnetod> good to hear arren :)
[06:59] <phlosten-lunch> barnetod: unlearn every about windows
[06:59] <phlosten-lunch> everything
[06:59] <barnetod> phlosten i only use windows at work
[06:59] <barnetod> been using yellowdog
[06:59] <ArrenLex> tj: swiftfox = firefox + compiler optimisations - GPL + proprietary license
[06:59] <ArrenLex> What's so great about that?
[06:59] <jbroome> math is hard
[07:00] <wastrel> yup
[07:00] <barnetod> jbroome what you working on?
[07:00] <RhiNo> ok i have ubuntu recognising in device manager that i indeed have my wireless card installed but i cannot connect to my wireless network anyone able to help?
[07:00] <wastrel> jbroome & barbie agree
[07:00] <ictoanthbty> ArrenLex any imporvements in swiftfox?
[07:00] <azureal> if i do 'aptitude update', will that change my apt-cache search results?
[07:00] <brosnan> ArrenLex: you can't remove the gpl from the code
[07:00] <barnetod> phlosten if i forgot everything about windows i would be out of a job :)
[07:00] <The_Jack_of_Club> !wireless
[07:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:01] <tj__> arrenlex: it is just nice to have a slightly faster browser :b
[07:01] <ArrenLex> ictonathbty: No. You will not get nothing noticeable. I suppose you could recompile the whole gecko engine with optimisations, and maybe get a tenth of a second speed increase, but if so why aren't you running gentoo?
[07:01] <Madpilot> brosnan, Firefox is multi-lic, actually
[07:01] <ictoanthbty> fully :P:
[07:01] <RhiNo> yea the wifi howto dont workw ortha poop
[07:01] <tj__> wireless >> network-manager-gnome
[07:01] <phire_NZ> 6.10 been released?
[07:01] <wastrel> firefox has some copyrighted artwork and some standard non-oss extensions
[07:01] <barnetod> should i even try to dual boot my laptop?
[07:01] <brosnan> Madpilot: I am well aware of that, it is tri lic MPL, GPL, LPGL
[07:01] <wastrel> hence the iceweasel thing
[07:01] <ictoanthbty> i wanna have 6.10 before tomorrow so i have time to install and play before work :/
[07:01] <phire_NZ> website updated
[07:02] <ArrenLex> brosnan: that is correct, swiftfox licenses the source under the same license mozilla does; it has to. The binaries are proprietary, however.
[07:02] <rredd4> amicrawle  when you installed edgy, did it tell you that you had to have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[07:02] <Fujitsu> phire_NZ: It's not been released, the website seems to have been updated prematurely.
[07:02] <phire_NZ> oh
[07:02] <wastrel> can we put a note about edgy not being released yet in the topic?
[07:02] <wastrel> in caps
[07:02] <ArrenLex> See? I quote: binaries provided by getswiftfox.com are not licensed MPL and therefore are not freely distributable.  The license to use Swiftfox extends to the user that              downloads Swiftfox from this web site.  No one may repackage or redistribute Swiftfox binaries in any form without prior permission.
[07:02] <The_Jack_of_Club> in my linux laptop i just put in my belkin wireless card and it worked right off and i couldnt get it to work in my windows laptop because it wouldnt use the drivers on the cd
[07:02] <ArrenLex> (that's from their site)
[07:02] <ictoanthbty> thanks ArrenLex
[07:02] <ictoanthbty> one wonders why theyd do that
[07:03] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, so what lic is it under, given that the only other two choices are GPL & LGPL?
[07:03] <ArrenLex> Madpilot: swiftbox binaries are distributed under their own non-free license. The source code is available under the MPL because it has to be.
[07:03] <ictoanthbty> or are they just plain ignoring OS licenses
[07:03] <babo> does anyone know how to convert this sting into utf8 ?
[07:03] <babo> =?euc-kr?B?RW1wbG95bWVudCBPcHBvcnR1bml0eV9QYXJrZW5nbGlzaF9UcmF2ZWwgJiBUZWFjaCBFb
[07:04] <ArrenLex> ictonathbty: the answer to that is on their site also:   Please also note that the licensing restrictions were put in place to safeguard Swiftfox users against the possibility of obtaining tainted versions from anyone who may wish to maliciously alter the binary and redistribute it.
[07:04] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, well, that bites.
[07:04] <rredd4> The_Jack_of_Club  thats great, i have a netgear and had to configure it with ndiswrapper.  took a while to learn how to do it..
[07:04] <The_Jack_of_Club> heh
[07:04] <rredd4> now its easy
[07:05] <The_Jack_of_Club> as long as it works i guess
[07:05] <rredd4> i have a lexmark printer, its a nightmare to config
[07:05] <barnetod> lol rredd try epson
[07:05] <Madpilot> rredd4, Lexmark are, they're best avoided.
[07:06] <barnetod> the propietary software to make it fully functional is a joke
[07:06] <|thunder> my epson installed over the network like a charm
[07:06] <ArrenLex> rredd4: lexmark is hit and miss. My laser printer runs with a single ppd file; my cheap colour inkjet doesn't run at all. Lexmark sucks.
[07:06] <phlosten-lunch> epson rock in linux
[07:06] <barnetod> thunder you have an all in one?
[07:06] <meso> looking for help getting my laptop to boot ubunto off of a USB-2 drive
[07:06] <The_Jack_of_Club> i have a canon printer that will connect but when it prints it comes out garbled
[07:06] <The_Jack_of_Club> i gave up trying with it
[07:06] <meso> it has usb as one of the boot options, and I have it ahead of the hard drive
[07:07] <|thunder> barnetod; cant remember the model. but its a regular injet with the memort stick/usb inputs for pictures.
[07:07] <barnetod> thunder mines an all in one
[07:07] <meso> I've tried all sorts of stuff, recommended by folks on this forum, and I can boot the ubuntu on the external drive but the boot itself is coming from the hard drive.
[07:07] <barnetod> and the required epson smart panel software kills me
[07:07] <meso> ANy ideas?
[07:07] <ictoanthbty> meso i dont know much about it, but have you loaded the proper image onto the thumb drive?
[07:07] <barnetod> sad thing is if you lose the cd you must purchase a new 80 dollar cd
[07:07] <barnetod> with one 5 meg program
[07:08] <|thunder> meso; sounds like the boot loader still has to be local
[07:08] <tj__> meso: make a linux partition on the drive?
[07:08] <meso> it isn't a thumb drive, it's a 60gb hard drive
[07:08] <rredd4> like linuxprinting.org says, lexmark is a paperweight.  and thats putting it nicely...
[07:08] <meso> how do I get the bootloader onto the external?
[07:08] <ictoanthbty> install to the drive?
[07:08] <ictoanthbty> thatll work nicely
[07:08] <meso> already did install to the drive about 20 tmes :-(
[07:08] <barnetod> this honestly has to be the most useful irc channel on earth
[07:09] <ictoanthbty> ubuntu has nice userbase
[07:09] <ToHellWithGA> barnetod: #latex is more beautiful
[07:09] <meso> it may be one of the ONL useful IRC channels :-)
[07:09] <ictoanthbty> (mostly :P)
[07:09] <barnetod> im glad im switching to it then
[07:09] <ictoanthbty> meso so the drive doesnt have boot preference, youre saying?
[07:10] <meso> the boot doesn't come from the drive, even when it has preference in the bios
[07:10] <exhale> what time is it in the USA now?
[07:10] <barnetod> 1:10
[07:10] <ictoanthbty> which part of the usa :P
[07:10] <barnetod> east coast
[07:10] <exhale> idk, central?
[07:10] <barnetod> 12:10
[07:10] <sivik> exhale, its 12:10 for me and i live in texas
[07:11] <ictoanthbty> wheres my goddamn torrents >.<
[07:11] <ianmacgregor> Wed Oct 25 22:10:59 PDT 2006
[07:11] <meso> I was only get it to boot at all by editing the main drive's grub menu file and adding it.
[07:11] <ictoanthbty> damn.
[07:11] <barnetod> ict what you looking for :)
[07:11] <ArrenLex> ictonathbty: what torrents are these?
[07:11] <ictoanthbty> ArrenLex i want edgy torrents
[07:11] <barnetod> i have a terrabyte of them lol
[07:11] <exhale> its edgy day today, no?
[07:11] <ictoanthbty> exhale yes
[07:11] <ArrenLex> ictonathbty: is apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade too good for you?
[07:11] <exhale> yay :D
[07:11] <ictoanthbty> meso is that not what you want?
[07:11] <ictoanthbty> ArrenLex its not good enough
[07:11] <meso> it's 2210 for me in AZ and 1910 for my brother in Hawaii
[07:12] <ictoanthbty> *running windows*
[07:12] <Flannel> !ef
[07:12] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[07:12] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[07:12] <ArrenLex> Yeah, I guess not. xD
[07:12] <barnetod> ict i thought i was the only outsider
[07:12] <ictoanthbty> additionally
[07:12] <meso> icto - no, I'd like it to boot directly from the HD rather than relyingon the internal drive
[07:12] <ictoanthbty> i like clean upgrades
[07:12] <ictoanthbty> is that weird?
[07:12] <sivik> its 12:10 central
[07:12] <barnetod> no ict
[07:12] <ictoanthbty> i have no expereince with unclean ones under linux
[07:12] <sivik> ictoanthbty, no, its personal preference
[07:12] <ArrenLex> ictonathby: aptitude is pretty clean afaik.
[07:12] <barnetod> i will tell you first hand
[07:12] <exhale> ictoanthbty, no its perfectly healthy
[07:12] <sivik> ictoanthbty, its really not that hard
[07:13] <ArrenLex> ictonathbty: I'm going to say your name because everyone else is.
[07:13] <nailer> so...final out yet?
[07:13] <ictoanthbty> meso what happens if the main drive isnt there? ie nothing to boot from?
[07:13] <barnetod> if ubuntu is anything like siemens or bosch software then never upgrade :)
[07:13] <ictoanthbty> is the drive just totally ignored?
[07:13] <sivik> ictoanthbty, all you have to do is change the sources.list from dapper to edgy and then run apt-get/aptitude update & apt-get/aptitude dist-upgrade
[07:13] <ianmacgregor> ictoanthbty: I like to install from the cd because I tried that update && upgrade and it broke almost everything in my Ubuntu.
[07:13] <iovar> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[07:13] <iovar> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[07:13] <iovar> !
[07:13] <nailer> <3 iorek7
[07:13] <nailer> <3 iovar, ahem
[07:13] <sivik> iovar, is it already out?
[07:13] <nailer> tho iorek7 gets love oo
[07:13] <ictoanthbty> omg
[07:13] <nailer> just less
[07:13] <ictoanthbty> *dies*
[07:13] <GeeBee>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY
[07:13] <meso> icto, I don't know. I have a brand new laptop and reallyh don't want to void the warranty by pulling the internal drive.
[07:13] <barnetod> damn 3 meg/s good site :)
[07:13] <iovar> it's on the pool!
[07:14] <tj__> ianmacgregor: i found that just using gksudo "update-manager -c -d" worked fine
[07:14] <ictoanthbty> meso disconnect ide/sata and power?
[07:14] <nailer> someone topic it
[07:14] <meso> It looks, however, as if the drive is totally ignored - it's light doesn't blink (although the LED on it is not very good as disk lites go)
[07:14] <barnetod> meso i replaced my hard drive efore turning it on
[07:14] <meso> icto - this is a laptop
[07:14] <ictoanthbty> lol okay. i cant help you :(
[07:14] <barnetod> lol nailer
[07:14] <sivik> meso- then take it back to where you bought it or call the company who made it and tell them it doesn't seem to be working
[07:14] <ictoanthbty> *downloading isos*
[07:14] <rredd4> tj__ did that ask you to install ubuntu-desktop
[07:14] <meso> good idea and I would have tried it, if I could
[07:14] <barnetod> hey guys how painful would it be to dual boot ubuntu and xp?
[07:14] <Fujitsu> barnetod: Not.
[07:15] <barnetod> good :)
[07:15] <sivik> barnetod, i do it on my desktop currently
 not at all! :p
[07:15] <ArrenLex> barnetod: it's super-easy. Just make sure to install XP first.
[07:15] <barnetod> i still need xp for something
[07:15] <meso> is there anyway I can verify that the bios indeed is not checking it?
[07:15] <tj__> rredd4: i ot the desktop version from it
[07:15] <sivik> barnetod, install xp and then linux
[07:15] <sivik> meso: do you see it in bios
[07:15] <Born_In_Xixax> if you xp needs are minimal, run it in vmware :)
[07:15] <meso> The BIOS claims to be able to boot from USB Flash, but perhaps the drive doesn't exactly emulate flash
[07:15] <rredd4> tj__ ot?
[07:15] <meso> I do not see it in the bios
[07:15] <tj__> *got
[07:15] <sivik> meso: maybe bios doesn't even see the drive
[07:15] <joincamp> does anyone use the engage dock?
[07:15] <ictoanthbty> yay malloc disk space on iso
[07:15] <meso> but both XP and Ubunto can use it
[07:15] <ictoanthbty> delicious
[07:16] <sivik> meso, then there is a problem
[07:16] <rredd4> ok
[07:16] <rawrness> The Ubuntu site is now showing Edgy!
[07:16] <ictoanthbty> i wasnt aware there was vmware for linux :S
[07:16] <ArrenLex> meso: it's called ubuntu. Explain to me how you managed to join this channel without knowing that.
[07:16] <ArrenLex> ictonathbty: of course there is. And it's beer-free.
[07:16] <AdamKili> how do i change the default torrent manager to Azureus?
[07:16] <meso> I suspect that perhaps the bios doesn't see it, but if that's so, why does it claim to boot from pen drives? I guess maybe I should build something on a pen drive and try. Anyone know a handy distribution
[07:16] <barnetod> the barnetod is now downloading edgy! :)
[07:17] <ictoanthbty> ArrenLex couldnt just using vmware as a kind of layer fix all the issues with wine/cedega?
[07:17] <|thunder> AdamKili; ive been trying to figure that out for months
[07:17] <ictoanthbty> or am i thinking like a douche
[07:17] <barnetod> i hope iovar this isn't the RC
[07:17] <Kawaii-Panda> my synaptic slowed down from 48kbps to 6kbps
[07:17] <meso> ArrenLex - what's your problem?
[07:17] <rawrness> But don't have the offical release isos up yet....
[07:17] <sivik> Kawaii-Panda, thats cause everyone and their mother is probably downloading stuff
[07:17] <ArrenLex> ictonathbty: yes, running a complete emulated operating system will probably solve emulation issues. However, it's really not what the wine project aims to achieve.
[07:17] <AdamKili> great.................................
[07:17] <ictoanthbty> :P
[07:17] <ictoanthbty> bah
[07:18] <ictoanthbty> its a quick fix
[07:18] <ictoanthbty> and could work, but i dont know how
[07:18] <ictoanthbty> if i knew these things id try to make it
[07:18] <ArrenLex> Make what?
[07:18] <ictoanthbty> and then be like 'everything windows runs in linux'
[07:18] <BHSPitLappy> barnetod, from what source?
[07:18] <BHSPitLappy> rawrness, nuh uh
[07:18] <barnetod> iovar posted it i hope it isnt the RC
[07:18] <ictoanthbty> mmm 104 kb down
[07:18] <rawrness> > BS
[07:18] <AdamKili> | thunder: are u joking?
[07:18] <rawrness> ?
[07:18] <barnetod> one sec bhsp
[07:19] <barnetod> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[07:19] <ictoanthbty> lolololol
[07:19] <exhale> lmao
[07:19] <sivik> oh wait, is there really anything that windows can run that is linux?
[07:19] <FunnyLookinHat> Please stop posting links....   Most of these are not linked as official because they are NOT the release, they are just the RC.
[07:19] <ictoanthbty> all the rcs are called ubuntu-6.10-rc-desktop-i286.iso so this isnt rc
[07:19] <ArrenLex> sivik: cygwin?
[07:19] <globe> is there a way to turn up the volume of flashplayer?  my system vol has to be cranked to hear anything from it
[07:19] <BHSPitLappy> barnetod, why use the mirror site
[07:19] <BHSPitLappy> http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/
[07:20] <meso> barnetod - the ubuntu desktop is what i installed. Can I install it to Flash? Flash is usually pretty tricky
[07:20] <mnepton> sivik: OpenOffice? Firefox? The GIMP?
[07:20] <AdamKili> |thunder: are you joking?
[07:20] <globe> sivik: putty?
[07:20] <sivik> thats only cause they have a version of cygwin that is compiled as windows
[07:20] <barnetod> lol i followed the first link bhsp
[07:20] <theloner> Could someone PM me, I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu on my PC
[07:20] <barnetod> :)
[07:20] <barnetod> im downloading a meg a sec
[07:20] <barnetod> so im not complaining
[07:20] <Fujitsu> barnetod: To install flash, install the flashplugin-nonfree package.
[07:20] <Nafallo> guess what folks. the release manager who will do the release is still asleep.
[07:20] <ArrenLex> theloner: just ask; chances are someone will be able to help you.
[07:20] <ictoanthbty> excellent
[07:20] <Fujitsu> Oops, that should have been to meso ^^
[07:20] <ictoanthbty> i wish i had that kind of connection :(
[07:20] <ubuntu> any 6.10 torrent up yet?
[07:20] <barnetod> ict i had to fight my isp
[07:20] <live> hi
[07:20] <barnetod> i took them to court
[07:21] <ianmacgregor> BHSPitLappy: That link you posted are release candidates.
[07:21] <Fujitsu> ubuntu, it hasn't been released yet.
[07:21] <ictoanthbty> ubuntu no torrents
[07:21] <crass> the network manager always tells me that there is no netowrk connection for wireless, does anyone else get this?
[07:21] <ictoanthbty> barnetod lol
[07:21] <barnetod> im serious
[07:21] <meso> Fujitsu... that will let me install the desktop onto the flash?
[07:21] <BHSPitLappy> ianmacgregor, scroll down further
[07:21] <sivik> crass, my wireless never works
[07:21] <barnetod> i was paying for 10meg/sec service
[07:21] <Fujitsu> meso, oh, on a flash drive?
[07:21] <yitzle> Busy in here!
[07:21] <barnetod> and they wouldnt come out and fix the line noise
[07:21] <barnetod> so i couldn't get into my work domain
[07:21] <Fujitsu> crass, ensure that your wireless card isn't reference in /etc/network/interfaces.
[07:21] <crass> sivik: I've gotten wireless to work fine, but not with network manager
[07:21] <ianmacgregor> BHSPitLappy: Look at the end of each 6.10 line.. it says "Release Candidate"
[07:21] <barnetod> and i called 80 times
[07:21] <ictoanthbty> barnetod lol you got pwnd :(
[07:21] <bdragonmsl_> funny thing, the main page of ubuntu shows 6.10 though.  But to download it they have only 6.06
[07:21] <sivik> crass, that must be nice
[07:21] <CheekyBoinc> Good Morning
[07:21] <barnetod> for service tech
[07:22] <barnetod> now i et free internet
[07:22] <BHSPitLappy> ianmacgregor, not the file names
[07:22] <crass> sivik: you need some help?
[07:22] <barnetod> and had money returned
[07:22] <barnetod> lol
[07:22] <barnetod> for 12 monthes
[07:22] <ArrenLex> bdragonmsl: this is called the Macromedia Flash effect.
[07:22] <sivik> bdragonmsl_, 6.10 will be out within the next day or so
[07:22] <ictoanthbty> excellent xD
[07:22] <sivik> Macromedia doesn't exsist anymore, its adobe
[07:22] <BHSPitLappy> ianmacgregor, and the ones without "rc" in the file names, are just a few hours old
[07:22] <barnetod> ict i would shut down a production line
[07:22] <barnetod> at work
[07:22] <crass> Fujitsu: it is in there
[07:22] <meso> Fujitsu... what I really want to do is boot ubuntu from my external USB2 HD, but there is the suggestion that the bios isn't seeing it, and I am just looking for a way to diagnose the problem without having to dig all the way down into the low levels of the boot process - which would take days of time that I don't have
[07:22] <barnetod> when i would dial in
[07:22] <barnetod> to monitor it
[07:22] <ArrenLex> I know. But until a few days ago, Macromedia was all that existed for us.
[07:22] <ictoanthbty> damn
[07:22] <theloner> Well, so I tried installing it/running it. I have the  Ubuntu 6.06 LTS.  I put the cd in a run it, and it unpacks and all (with the coloured logo, showing the tasks and "OK")  Afterward, the text is white as though it is a command prompt, and it laods some more things.. the nitty gritty things, like hardware.. I remmeber it saying "RAID " smoething.. "Enterprise Volume Manager"...   "Hardware Support" or something...  After that entire
[07:22] <ictoanthbty> it looks like the link is indeed an RC
[07:22] <bdragonmsl_> yeah, but it's still funy that they have what looks like their release page already made up
[07:22] <crass> Fujitsu: should I remove it?
[07:22] <sivik> ArrenLex, Macromedia got bought out a few months ago
[07:22] <Fujitsu> crass, remove it. That'll stop NetworkManager from working with it.
[07:22] <barnetod> is it ???
[07:22] <jbroome> wtg
[07:22] <sivik> crass: its broadcom
[07:23] <theloner> I'm not reallya  newb with computers. I've used Fedora barely before,
[07:23] <AdamKili> how do i change the default torrent manager to Azureus?
[07:23] <ArrenLex> sivik: I'm perfectly aware, I assure you.
[07:23] <anilomkar> is Ubuntu 6.10 is officially released?
[07:23] <BHSPitLappy> ictoanthbty, well, it's better than all those mirror links that are circulating
[07:23] <crass> sivik: do you have the kernel drivers for it>
[07:23] <ianmacgregor> BHSPitLappy: Oh well, doesn't matter to me, I"m staying on Dapper since it has support for 3 years.
[07:23] <ArrenLex> anilomkar: no.
[07:23] <Fujitsu> anilomkar: No.
[07:23] <mnepton> AdamKili: right-click a .torrent and choose Properties
[07:23] <Nafallo> anilomkar: no
[07:23] <bdragonmsl_> bet they are getting emails from loads of people saying they want it and that their site says 6.10 and there's no download
[07:23] <BHSPitLappy> ArrenLex, uhh, yeah... that's REALLY old news
[07:23] <AdamKili> oh ya that way i 4got
[07:24] <BHSPitLappy> macromedia's web site has redirected to adobe for months now
[07:24] <ArrenLex> ianmacgregor: support = bugfixes. Your packages will become ancient.
[07:24] <ubuntu> Ubuntu tem shouldnt upload this pic....http://www.ubuntu.com/Welcome?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=edgy-cover2.jpg
[07:24] <ArrenLex> BHSPitLappy: I. KNOW. THIS.
[07:24] <ictoanthbty> BHSPitLappy what? the link on .pool looks like RC
[07:24] <sivik> crass: yes, its natavely installed in anything later than 2.6.15 (ubuntu) and i have the newest firmware, but it never picks up wireless connections avaliable
[07:24] <Lam_> totem gives me a "could not determine type of stream" on my mp3 file.  mplayer and rythembox give similar errors.  mp3s work, but this collection of them doesn't seem to want to.  it is as if something stripped recognition from them
[07:24] <crass> Fujitsu: what creates thaqt file and why is it in there?  there is stuff for other interfaces too
[07:24] <ianmacgregor> ArrenLex: Fine with me.
[07:24] <Fujitsu> crass, remove the stuff about the wireless only.
[07:24] <jbroome> nice mullet on the guy @ 3 o'clock
[07:24] <BHSPitLappy> ArrenLex, did you hear they changed the name of Attack of the Show?
[07:24] <BHSPitLappy> s/of/to/
[07:24] <barnetod> well when adobe purchases macromedia i would hope it points to adobe :)
[07:24] <Fujitsu> crass, it may be created on installation, or through the network preferences tool.
[07:24] <ianmacgregor> ArrenLex: If it works, no need to fix it :)
[07:24] <meso> anyone here know the low level sequence of booting - how the bios knows if a storage device is bootable?
[07:24] <ArrenLex> VHSPitLappy: the name of what a what now?
[07:24] <ArrenLex> Lam_: I don't know. How about uploading one so we can see?
[07:24] <sivik> pm crass
[07:25] <crass> Fujitsu: does the network preferences tool not work with the network manager?
[07:25] <Fujitsu> crass, correct. If you use it with any interfaces, NetworkManager will ignore them.
[07:25] <ictoanthbty> meso perhaps youre better off looking for help elsewhere.. this is a ubuntu channel, not external drives :/
[07:25] <crass> sivik: have you done iwlist <iface> --scan in the presense of a network?
[07:25] <sivik> crass: yes
[07:25] <crass> Fujitsu: thanks, that's it
[07:26] <sivik> crass: it never picks up crap
[07:26] <sivik> crass, and the wireless is sitting like 18 inches from me
[07:26] <crass> sivik: are you sure its not a driver issue?
[07:26] <sivik> crass: yes i know, the driver is integrated in the kernel already
[07:26] <Lam_> ArrenLex: http://rapidshare.com/files/714166/101_-_Atb_Feat._Wild_Strawberries_-_Let_U_Go.mp3.html
[07:26] <Lam_> anyone else can have a crack at it too if they want
[07:26] <meso> icto... it is ubuntu I want on there, because I love ubuntu compared to other things. My drive is fine - it works with ubuntu and XP, it just doesn't boot ubuntu. I don't even know how to install XP to it without messing up my internal drive.
[07:26] <ictoanthbty> what is it?
[07:27] <hsingarajah> Would someone be able to assist me with my problem?  So I tried installing it/running it. I have the  Ubuntu 6.06 LTS.  I put the cd in a run it, and it unpacks and all (with the coloured logo, showing the tasks and "OK")  Afterward, the text is white as though it is a command prompt, and it laods some more things.. the nitty gritty things, like hardware.. I remmeber it saying "RAID " smoething.. "Enterprise Volume Manager"...   "Ha
[07:27] <hsingarajah> Thanks*!
[07:27] <sivik> meso: install windows first
[07:27] <ictoanthbty> meso my next question would have been can you get windows booting from it...
[07:27] <crass> sivik: just because its in the kernel doesn't mean it works with your model
[07:27] <spanglesontoast> how do I add the terminal on right click
[07:27] <ArrenLex> Wow. That was the hardest download I've ever started.
[07:27] <barnetod> wanna good laugh check this mess up out
[07:27] <barnetod> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826140023
[07:27] <Lam_> lol yeah i know. i hate rapidshare.  it was the only one that could come to my head though
[07:27] <meso> icto - my drive is a 60GB passport - neat little thing about the size of a passport but 1/2 inch thick, and powered from the USB-2 port.
[07:27] <ictoanthbty> sendfile.com
[07:27] <barnetod> lam gigasize
[07:27] <hsingarajah> Rapid share is so limiited. I hate it: (
[07:27] <ictoanthbty> megadownload.com
[07:27] <sivik> crass: well, i have to download the firmware and put it in the /lib/firmware and the guys that made the bloody driver say it works for my card
[07:28] <barnetod> gigasize is great
[07:28] <sivik> bcm4318
[07:28] <crass> Fujitsu: didn't seem to do anything.  I made the file contain nothing, and restarted nm-applet
[07:28] <sivik> crass: its a bcm4318
[07:28] <ictoanthbty> meso yes thats a little irrelevant ^^
[07:28] <yitzle> @hsingarajah: Freezes?
[07:28] <Lam_> i'll remember those for future reference. thanks
[07:28] <meso> icto - yep!
[07:28] <hsingarajah> @yitzle YES
[07:28] <meso> icto - well, yes, but you asked
[07:28] <Fujitsu> crass, run killall NetworkManager, then sudo NetworkManager
[07:28] <hsingarajah> The UNDERSCORE, stops BLINKING
[07:28] <bimberi> spanglesontoast: install nautilus-open-terminal
[07:28] <Fujitsu> That'll restart it.
[07:28] <crass> sivik: deos dmesg say anything about it?
[07:28] <ictoanthbty> meso.. did i?
[07:28] <hsingarajah> WHOA THE MESSAGES ARE MOVING LIKE VWOOSH I CAN'T KEEP UP
[07:28] <Fujitsu> !caps
[07:28] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:28] <ictoanthbty> ohh lol that was directed at lam
[07:28] <sivik> crass: the only time it works, is when i do a fresh install of dapper, but as soon as i either update packages or dist-upgrade, it never works again
[07:28] <meso> yeah @ 22:26
[07:28] <ArrenLex> Lam_: checked it out in a hexeditor. That file is completely blank -- all zeros. Nothing's going to play that. =P
[07:29] <yitzle> Tech support needed!
[07:29] <sivik> hsingarajah, you can page up
[07:29] <barnetod> lam whats the mp3s of?
[07:29] <Lam_> oh wow. i guess i should have looked at the hex
[07:29] <hsingarajah> sivik, I'm sorry?
[07:29] <Lam_> it's all 0?
[07:29] <ictoanthbty> lol nothing apparently
[07:29] <Lam_> barnetod: vocal trance
[07:29] <sivik> hsingarajah, what are you sorry about?
[07:29] <meso> oh well
[07:29] <barnetod> what artist?
[07:29] <rawrness> Vwoosh!
[07:29] <ArrenLex> Lam_: yes.
[07:29] <Lam_> barnetod: random collection of artists.  nothing in particular
[07:30] <rawrness> Vwooshing at the pace of snails
[07:30] <ianmacgregor> Lam_: Is that really an Ubuntu issue?
[07:30] <ictoanthbty> i thought ubuntu was released on a dvd
[07:30] <barnetod> i have too much trance
[07:30] <Lam_> ArrenLex: thanks for the heads up. i guess i'll have to relook into that.
[07:30] <barnetod> lol
[07:30] <ictoanthbty> strange
[07:30] <hsingarajah> I mean, I beg your pardon? What do you mean by paging up? I'm reading through the chat, I know what's going on.
[07:30] <barnetod> im always looking for new stuff
[07:30] <Fujitsu> ictoanthbty: Both.
[07:30] <ArrenLex> Lam_: where did you get this mysterious blank file?
[07:30] <hsingarajah> Do you want me to read the previous messages posted?
[07:30] <meso> icgto, you can get it on dvd or cd
[07:30] <Lam_> ianmacgregor: it originally was, until i found out the mp3 itself was blank. :)
[07:30] <hsingarajah> erm sent?
[07:30] <barnetod> oink fills the hard drive quick
[07:30] <Lam_> ArrenLex: gftp into a friend's ftp server
[07:30] <ictoanthbty> Fujitsu what?
[07:30] <rawrness> dvd is sh hiney
[07:30] <Fujitsu> It is released on a CD and a DVD.
[07:30] <rawrness> it has both live and alt install
[07:30] <ictoanthbty> why would you need a dvd for it if it fits on cd
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Lam: did you borrow something from this "friend" and forget to return it? =P I think he may be ticked at you.
[07:31] <bdragonmsl_> what's the diff between the cd and dvd?
[07:31] <rawrness> dvd dos
[07:31] <ictoanthbty> oh right
[07:31] <ictoanthbty> kay ^^
[07:31] <SaLsIcHa> barnetod, How did you found that link?
[07:31] <Lam_> ArrenLex: lol no. nothing of the sort. it might be some configuration setting or some shit.  i'm not entirely sure
[07:31] <bdragonmsl_> nm
[07:31] <barnetod> sal someone posted it in here
[07:31] <barnetod> i hope it isnt a renamed rc
[07:31] <Lam_> ArrenLex: plus, 40kb/s for 24 hours isn't really pleasant for anyone, ticked off or not ;)
[07:31] <ictoanthbty> it looks like it might be
[07:31] <meso> if it's like debian, the DVD has lots of packages on it (debian has a 2 DVD set that I tried)
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Ow.
[07:31] <ictoanthbty> but its small anyway
[07:31] <barnetod> ict i hope not
[07:31] <barnetod> ill be pretty pissed
[07:31] <hsingarajah> Is there a forum dedicated to tech support?
[07:32] <ictoanthbty> barnetod take a look at http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/
[07:32] <mnepton> there have been changes between RC and Final
[07:32] <hsingarajah> Or is this like just the general chat channel?
[07:32] <ictoanthbty> scroll down to the one youre downlolading
[07:32] <chylli> I cann't input chinese in emacs by fcitx under xubuntu 6.10
[07:32] <ictoanthbty> check out the description text
[07:32] <ArrenLex> hsingarlaskflksdgla: this is it, sorry. =P
[07:32] <Lam_> ArrenLex: but yeah. thanks for that catch. i guess i should have tried a hex editor when i realized it was missing codec information
[07:32] <Flannel> hsingarajah: this is the support channel, general chatting happens in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:32] <meso> hsingarajah - I have found tech support here every time I tried
[07:32] <hsingarajah> Ah I see,
[07:33] <ArrenLex> Lam_: "file" is your all-purpose something-is-wrong detector. I ran file on it and it said "data". That was my flag.
[07:33] <hsingarajah> I ran that thing that does checksums on all the files of the cd, and it's fine.
[07:33] <barnetod> well file description says rc
[07:33] <barnetod> hmm
[07:33] <hsingarajah> PRognosis:.. My computer is retarded?
[07:33] <ictoanthbty> barnetod yeah
[07:33] <bob4444> hello does anyone know if theres any USB modem support in Ubunut Drapper 6.10??????
[07:33] <Lam_> ArrenLex: that's good to know.  i'll remember that. thanks a lot
[07:33] <ictoanthbty> barnetod im going to go with the desc being wrong
[07:33] <barnetod> me too
[07:33] <meso> well... I may just give up on the external boot problem, or try XP on it as a test. Thanks those who tried to help. g'nite
[07:33] <ictoanthbty> because FC is not in the filename
[07:33] <barnetod> lol and get it before the serves explode tomorrow
[07:33] <ictoanthbty> bye meso
[07:33] <barnetod> servers
[07:33] <hsingarajah> Bye Meso!
[07:33] <ictoanthbty> fully :P
[07:34] <ictoanthbty> but torrents should be up by then
[07:34] <meso> cia
[07:34] <barnetod> lol on public torrents
[07:34] <barnetod> i never use public torrents
[07:34] <hsingarajah> whomg he's part of the cia?! *sarcasm*
[07:34] <HeathenDan> j ubuntu-offtopic
[07:34] <HeathenDan> err
[07:34] <ictoanthbty> ... why?
[07:34] <barnetod> too much confusion
[07:34] <barnetod> lol
[07:34] <ictoanthbty> are you too good or something?
[07:34] <barnetod> no
[07:34] <hsingarajah> Am I going to get banned for making sarcastic comments like this
[07:34] <ictoanthbty> >.>
[07:34] <barnetod> i always get stuck at 99.9
[07:34] <rawrness> torrents are like the us postal
[07:34] <hsingarajah> In all seriousness I dont' want to get banned, I need help: (
[07:34] <rawrness> slow....
[07:34] <barnetod> ict you use oink?
[07:35] <ictoanthbty> barnetod oink?
[07:35] <barnetod> oh boy lol
[07:35] <ictoanthbty> brb gettin foods
[07:35] <barnetod> you got a decent ratio?
[07:35] <rawrness> !oink
[07:35] <barnetod> ill invite you to it
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <ArrenLex> !meow
[07:35] <ArrenLex> :)
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about meow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <rawrness> !anything
[07:35] <ianmacgregor> !botabuse
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[07:35] <rawrness> :)
[07:35] <Vich> is it possible to get digital audio working on ubuntu?
[07:35] <Vich> i.e. the spdif interface with ac97
[07:36] <barnetod> ict ill pm you
[07:36] <bob4444> hello does anyone know if theres any USB modem support in Ubunut Drapper 6.10??????
[07:36] <ictoanthbty> back
[07:36] <ictoanthbty> bob4444 what kind of modem
[07:36] <Fujitsu> bob4444: 6.06, you mean?
[07:36] <rawrness> i think you can get final in the release pool
[07:36] <hsingarajah> okay so do you suggest I just order more cds and see if they work?
[07:36] <bob4444> Dynalink AL800
[07:36] <bob4444> yeh
[07:37] <ArrenLex> hsingarakfdslkgj: what was your problem again?
[07:37] <rawrness> theres two images for the common thingy on says rc on it the otther not
[07:37] <bob4444> is there a ECIADSL driver for 6.06?
[07:37] <Rookie_> !adsl
[07:37] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:37] <ictoanthbty> there is indeed
[07:37] <rwscold> HEy anyone know when edgy the final release will come out?
[07:37] <bob4444> thanx
[07:37] <Vich> configure: error: this packages requires a curses library
[07:37] <ictoanthbty> ubuntu eciadsl package:
[07:37] <rawrness> today
[07:37] <Vich> what the hell is a curses library?
[07:37] <hsingarajah> ArrenLex - hsingaraJAH (almost got it, until you mashed the keyboard)  says , "I trid running/installing Ubuntu and it freezes"
[07:37] <ictoanthbty> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/eciadsl
[07:38] <rawrness> it should come out today.
[07:38] <Vich> it's stopping me installing realtek drivers
[07:38] <barnetod> one to dont find in church vich
[07:38] <rwscold> i know today but anyone have a clue what time
[07:38] <ArrenLex> hsingarsdkfjsaljfgl: too many random letters = me mashing keyboard =P
[07:38] <rawrness> the site even says it came out today
[07:38] <Vich> lol
[07:38] <rwscold> ya
[07:38] <rawrness> even if its not out yet
[07:38] <Neil3> rwscold i'm as excited as you are
[07:38] <Vich> seriously I'm trying to install realtek audio drivers
[07:38] <Vich> since I use digital speakers
[07:38] <bob4444> how do I use the den files? same as RPM?
[07:38] <rawrness> is staying on till release.......
[07:38] <Vich> but the install script halts and complaines about the curses libraru
[07:38] <wastrel> Vich:  install  libncurses5-dev
[07:38] <Vich> *library
[07:38] <ArrenLex> hsing -- can I call you fhqwhgads? -- what do you mean, froze?
[07:38] <Neil3> i have to go to work in an hour and a half
[07:38] <Vich> ah
[07:39] <rwscold> neil3 lol I was hoping for a midnight release or something for me lol
[07:39] <Vich> thanks wastrel
[07:39] <Vich> I tried a few
[07:39] <hsingarajah> ArrenLex - dude you should see some of the names of other Tamil/South Indian people I know.  "Sarabavanarajakumar" etc.
[07:39] <rawrness> fhaqwhgads!!!!!!!
[07:39] <Neil3> yeah rwscold, but that's never happened in the past :(
[07:39] <wastrel> everybody to the limit
[07:39] <hsingarajah> Push it to the limitt duh, duh duh du duh
[07:39] <barnetod> man torrents are great
[07:39] <hsingarajah> Walk along the razor's edge.
[07:39] <barnetod> i just got complete car diagnostic software :)
[07:39] <hsingarajah> do do do do *scarface theme*
[07:39] <rwscold> agreed neil3
[07:39] <ArrenLex> fhqwhgads: no, really. "froze"? At what point? Did it give you error messages?
[07:40] <hsingarajah> No error messages
[07:40] <Vich> here I go again
[07:40] <Vich> wish me luck
[07:40] <wastrel> gl
[07:40] <ArrenLex> fhqwhgads: froze at what point? The livecd or an installation
[07:40] <rwscold> i wonder if its coming with the flash 9 beta
[07:40] <novo> hi everybody
[07:40] <ArrenLex> Whoa, el spanisho.
[07:40] <tzadikim> can anyone point me in the right direction to a guide on setting up dual booting on a windows xp dominated computer? im about as noob as they come right now and havent been able to make a lot from what i've found, so be gentle
[07:40] <hobbes_> it doesnt come with any flash
[07:40] <Fujitsu> rwscold: Nol
[07:40] <Fujitsu> *No
[07:40] <seatouch> Setting up repositories
[07:40] <hobbes_> its easy tzadikim
[07:40] <Vich> tkzdikim
[07:40] <seatouch> core                                                                 [1/3] 
[07:40] <seatouch> Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: core
[07:40] <seatouch> Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: core
[07:40] <Madpilot> ubotu, dualboot | tzadikim
[07:40] <Fujitsu> hobbes_: it has a package of Flash...
[07:40] <ubotu> tzadikim: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:40] <Nafallo> rwscold: won't. beta is not considered stable at this point.
[07:40] <Vich> just use seperate partitions
[07:40] <hsingarajah> ArrenLex, it just unpacked, loaded those utitlities like the RAid something... and "Enterprize Volume Manager", all of them said [OK] , then after the screen cleared, it froze. The "_" underscore stopped blinking and after a few minutes my CD drive stopped spinning
[07:41] <ArrenLex> tzadikim: just install XP first. Then, when you install ubuntu, it'll set you up to dual-boot automagically.
[07:41] <wastrel> ooooh
[07:41] <novo> Has anybody used eclipse?
[07:41] <wastrel> that is special
[07:41] <Vich> yes novo
[07:41] <Vich> I have
[07:41] <ArrenLex> fhqwhgads: the install or the livecd?
[07:41] <wastrel> ugly overloading pipe tho
[07:41] <Vich> if you mean the programming ide
[07:41] <hobbes_> Fujitsu: yea but thats still flash 7
[07:41] <bob4444> any one know how to use deb files?
[07:41] <Fujitsu> hobbes_: fortunately.
[07:41] <hsingarajah> ArrenLex - Are they not one and the same thign? The option i chose was "Run/Install Ubuntu"
[07:41] <Vich> I have dual boot with winxp
[07:41] <rwscold> cause flash 7 is stable haha
[07:41] <Vich> bob4444: dpkg
[07:41] <tzadikim> wow, ok, i think i've made this way more complicated than it is
[07:41] <Fujitsu> bob4444: What is in them?
[07:41] <novo> Vich: yes
[07:41] <rawrness> Songbird is going to be tight in te future!
[07:41] <tzadikim> thanks a lot everybody
[07:41] <Vich> dpkg -i filename.deb
[07:42] <bob4444> Ecidsl
[07:42] <hobbes_> Fujitsu: forutnately?
[07:42] <tzadikim> :-)
[07:42] <hsingarajah> Take care tzadikim!
[07:42] <rwscold> tzadikim its very easy if u just install windows first
[07:42] <Fujitsu> bob4444: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[07:42] <ArrenLex> fhqwhgads: yes, for a desktop CD they are essentially the same thing. Is anything weird about your hard drive? Do you have RAID or LVM, for example?
[07:42] <Fujitsu> hobbes_: Yes, Flash 9 crashes enormously.
[07:42] <hobbes_> hmm... I think it's crashed maybe once for me
[07:42] <Tatey> Flash9 behaves nicely here
[07:42] <Fujitsu> Tatey: Not always.
[07:42] <rwscold> i havent installed it
[07:43] <hsingarajah> ArrenLex - no ntohing.  I just have a master drive that I installed windows on and a slave drive I installed Linux (Fedora Previously) on..  I partitioned it for NTSC and for Linux3...
[07:43] <rwscold> i have torn my current dapper install to pieces lol
[07:43] <Tatey> I haven't encountered any issues so far
[07:43] <Fujitsu> And it is pre-release, unsupportable software. Exactly what we do not want to have included.
[07:43] <hobbes_> and it at least has working sound (most common usage for 9 has to be youtube, etc.)
[07:43] <Fujitsu> hsingarajah: NTFS, you mean?
[07:43] <ArrenLex> XD How did you manage to partition a drive in NTSC?
[07:43] <novo> Had you installed eclipse programming ide?
[07:43] <Fujitsu> And ext4?
[07:43] <rwscold> so i am waiting for edgy
[07:43] <hsingarajah> Right sorry typo
[07:43] <Fujitsu> hobbes_: Sound works with Flash 7 as well.
[07:43] <hobbes_> not for me
[07:43] <rwscold> sometimes
[07:43] <crimsun> but flash 9 beta is *shiny*!!
[07:43] <phire_NZ> nope
[07:43] <hobbes_> and i tried some of those workarounds
[07:43] <hobbes_> no luck
[07:43] <elkbuntu> rwscold, many people are. if you want idle chatter, #ubuntu-offtopic is an ideal place
[07:43] <sami> its here.. i'm downloading edgy right now. i cant wait
[07:43] <hsingarajah> OMGZ, I can't type.
[07:43] <Nafallo> crimsun: hehe :-)
[07:44] <Nafallo> we should just have went with reiserfs4 as default filesystem ;-)
[07:44] <rwscold> ummm are you serious look at the 10 other ppl just rambling
[07:44] <ictoanthbty> i want to know
[07:44] <ArrenLex> hsingarajah: if the space is free, how about trying to just install it from an alternate CD (basic server) and running apt-get install ubuntu-desktop once it installs?
[07:44] <ictoanthbty> why developers dont release fs drivers for windows
[07:44] <hsingarajah> ArrenLex - anyway so I had Grub Installed on my MBR of the slave drive, but windows crashed so I had to reinstall it. Afterwards It woudln't run Grub anymore. my linux partition is still there, ut I can't access it. This is why I want to install Ubuntu..
[07:44] <ictoanthbty> so we can have native read/write support for ext3 and the like
[07:44] <ictoanthbty> in windows.
[07:44] <hsingarajah> - Well rather, my friend told me to put Ubuntu instead of Fedora
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Oh crap! I actually used your name!
[07:45] <Fujitsu> ictoanthbty: there is one...
[07:45] <ArrenLex> What was I thinking?!
[07:45] <ianmacgregor> Nafallo: Nah, that file system has too much overhead.. what with the dead bodies and all
[07:45] <ArrenLex> fhqwhgads *** , sorry.
[07:45] <hsingarajah> LOLLERCOPTERS
[07:45] <Nafallo> sami: well, I hope you don't think you are downloading the final ;-)
[07:45] <Nafallo> ianmacgregor: hehe :-)
[07:45] <ictoanthbty> Fujitsu all ive seen is a bad application that can read from ext3
[07:45] <hsingarajah> ArrenLx -" if the space is free, how about trying to just install it from an alternate CD (basic server) and running apt-get install ubuntu-desktop once it installs?" Could you explain that again?
[07:45] <ArrenLex> ictonathbty: do you mean, why do developers not release ext3 filesystem drivers for windows? Because the answer to that is, they do.
[07:45] <Nafallo> ianmacgregor: that's why I said it ;-)
[07:45] <ictoanthbty> oh lol ianmacgregor
[07:46] <ictoanthbty> ArrenLex damn. where? ;_;
[07:46] <sami> jep.. i think so. its there=> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/
[07:46] <ArrenLex> !ext3
[07:46] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[07:46] <ictoanthbty> omfg.
[07:46] <ictoanthbty> thanks.
[07:46] <ArrenLex> Follow where the great Ubotu leads you, grasshopper =P
[07:46] <Nafallo> sami: it's not...
[07:46] <ictoanthbty> Nafallo.. check out the md5sums file
[07:46] <hsingarajah> !ext3
[07:46] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[07:46] <RancidLM> hey all.. ok can some one tell me if this is even possible.. i have a desktop and a laptop.. and i would like to have my laptop be able to loginto  my desktop so i can share a Xserver and Applications is this possible or am i nutz?
[07:46] <ictoanthbty> although just being different doesnt mean complete...
[07:46] <Nafallo> ictoanthbty: dude... the final is probably not built yet...
[07:47] <ictoanthbty> but its not the rc renamed
[07:47] <Flannel> hsingarajah: the Alternate CD has an option to install just the basic, no GUI, installation, which you can then make exactly like the liveCD installer (or the default Alternate CD install) by installing ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[07:47] <ArrenLex> fhqwhgads: there are two cds from which to install ubuntu. Desktop = livecd ; alternate = text-based.
[07:47] <ictoanthbty> Nafallo of course it is
[07:47] <Nafallo> ictoanthbty: it's the md5sum for the latest daily.
[07:47] <ictoanthbty> it goes live today >.>
[07:47] <ArrenLex> fhqwhgads: since the livecd doesnt' seem to work for you, try installing from the other CD in text mode to get yourself a basic system.
[07:47] <xzhang> When can I download the release version?
[07:47] <Nafallo> ictoanthbty: yea, when they've most likely spun new isos :-)
[07:47] <hkl8324> 25th Daily build=RTM?
[07:47] <Flannel> xzhang: it isn't out yet
[07:47] <ArrenLex> fhqwhgads: Then, in your basic system, run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to get all the packages that are part of ubuntu.
[07:47] <Nafallo> xzhang: cause it's not created? :-)
[07:48] <hobbes_> joelroxors: hi
[07:48] <Flannel> ArrenLex, why doesn't he just install from the alternate CD?
[07:48] <ArrenLex> fhqwhgads: the alternate CD might install where some weird bug of the livecd failed.
[07:48] <xzhang> Flannel: oh~ er... How soon? :)
[07:48] <ArrenLex> Flannel: is this not what I am suggesting?
[07:48] <barnetod> ict file modified 25-oct-06 22:48
[07:48] <hsingarajah> ArrenLex - I see.. I didn't get two cds.  It says here  "To use Ubuntu as a Live CD, put this CD in the CD drive and turn on or restart your computer. To install Ubunti, run the LIve CD and double clock on the INstall Icon"...
[07:48] <Flannel> ArrenLex: Thought you were suggesting installing server from the alternate CD, then apt-getting the desktop
[07:48] <ictoanthbty> barnetod what are you saying?
[07:48] <hsingarajah> DO I have to get the atlernate cd?
[07:48] <ArrenLex> fhqwhgads: ideally, this would work. However, it screws up with your system for some reason, so you might as well try a different way.
[07:48] <barnetod> thats when the iso was edited
[07:49] <hsingarajah> I press Buttan , computar no GO
[07:49] <barnetod> last
[07:49] <SaLsIcHa> hum
[07:49] <ictoanthbty> yes and?
[07:49] <ArrenLex> Flannel: yes. Is this not what you and I are suggesting?
[07:49] <barnetod> i think its the real deal i hope
[07:49] <rwscold> i just wish there was a way for me to go to sleep and it would start downloading once it was released automatically
[07:49] <barnetod> lol too close to midnight haha
[07:49] <ictoanthbty> hsingarajah: press button, recieve bacon
[07:49] <fluvvell> RancidLM, yess fully possible
[07:49] <xzhang> rwscold: haha
[07:49] <hsingarajah> hah,
[07:49] <Flannel> ArrenLex: no, if he's got the alternate, just install the desktop from it, no need to go through the server install then apt get the desktop
[07:49] <ozzloy> the file sym.java doesn't exist, but when i make sym.java, it returns Nothing to be done for `sym.java'.  wtf?
[07:49] <RancidLM> fluvvell: any suggestions how to do this?
[07:49] <hsingarajah> Flannell - I dn't have the alternate.
[07:49] <hsingarajah> Flannel - Where do I get the alternate
[07:50] <ozzloy> how do i convince make that there is indeed something to do for sym.java?
[07:50] <Flannel> hsingarajah: I'm aware.  you download it from the ubuntu site, ubuntu.com/download  download the alternate ISO
[07:50] <fluvvell> RancidLM, its called XDMCP
[07:50] <ArrenLex> Flannel: you said "then make exactly like the liveCD installer (or the default Alternate CD install) by installing ubuntu-desktop metapackage." Isn't this what you are now saying is not necessary? I'm so confused.
[07:50] <Flannel> ArrenLex: I'll explain in a query
[07:50] <ozzloy> running the command to create sym.java by hand works.  and yes i know this isn't #make, but that channel is empty
[07:50] <xzhang> rwscold: where are you? it is afternoon in my country
[07:50] <hsingarajah> ArrenLEx - I must be e^(ArrenLex Confused)
[07:50] <fluvvell> RancidLM, you need to enable it under System->Administration->login
[07:50] <ictoanthbty> alright guys. the sensible argument about whether or not the .pool isos are official release needs to think about distrobution. the ubuntu project cant announce their release without many mirror servers already hosting the file, so arguments about this one being too early are iffy already. and then, why wouldnt they stick to their relase schedule? they always have, theres no reason not to, and .. thats all ive got.
[07:50] <ictoanthbty> im going now cause arguments frustate me
[07:50] <ictoanthbty> see you all on edgy@
[07:51] <rwscold> I'm in the U.S.
[07:51] <ArrenLex> fhqwhgads: you need to download the alternate CD. It is available from the same page as where you downloaded the desktop CD.
[07:51] <barnetod> lol ict
[07:51] <barnetod> see ya man
[07:51] <Neil3> they are probably real, the files are dated yesterday and different sizes to the rc isos
[07:51] <Nafallo> ictoanthbty: rc came out 20 in the evening UTF+2, mind you :-)
[07:51] <Nafallo> ictoanthbty: we have plenty of time to rebuild and push.
[07:51] <xzhang> rwscold: I am in China:)
[07:52] <rwscold> In Texas actually  haha its 1 in the morning here
[07:52] <ictoanthbty> nafallo are you actually on the project?
[07:52] <fluvvell> RancidLM, then on the machine (running Ubuntu I assume) that you want to login from, you go to System->quit->switch user, then at the new login screen, go to Options, and find XDMCP session
[07:52] <barnetod> im close to finishing the d/l
[07:52] <Nafallo> ictoanthbty: MOTU
[07:52] <ArrenLex> Neil3: are they real? ;););)
[07:52] <ictoanthbty> are you involved in the release?
[07:52] <ictoanthbty> motu.. ?
[07:52] <hsingarajah> OH
[07:52] <Nafallo> ictoanthbty: yes. I keep my eyes open for most thing in the project :-)
[07:52] <Neil3> well i might as well download and wait for the release then compare sha1sums
[07:52] <hsingarajah> I am so get it maybe sort of.
[07:52] <Fujitsu> ictoanthbty: Master of the Universe, with upload rights to the universe repository.
[07:52] <Nafallo> ictoanthbty: Master of the Universe.
[07:52] <ictoanthbty> neil3 good plan
[07:52] <kupesoft> when the eft isos be available?
[07:52] <ictoanthbty> bye all
[07:53] <hsingarajah> AllexRen - so this shipped cd is useless to me
[07:53] <hsingarajah> ?*
[07:53] <Nafallo> ictoanthbty: check my launchpad if you don't believe me, same nick as here ;-)
[07:53] <RancidLM> thnx brb!
[07:53] <Nafallo> but he's gone... :-P
[07:53] <fluvvell> RancidLM, you should find the other machine listed there.  To switch between the two, you will probably find ctrl-alt-f7 and ctrl-alt-f9 does the switching
[07:53] <Flannel> kupesoft: sometime within the next 26 hours, probably.
[07:53] <RancidLM> fluvvell: Thnx brb!
[07:53] <fluvvell> ok
[07:53] <ArrenLex> fhqwhgads: Yes, it appears so, since it won't install. Why don't you just download?
[07:53] <Neil3> so i can spend the weekend installing/configuring edgy, i'm seriously considering telling my gf some excuse so i don't have to stay at her's over the next few days which is what i usually do
[07:53] <hobbes_> dont really know why i am waiting so excitedly for like a 20 mb update to my latest daily cd :)
[07:53] <xzhang> anybody knows how soon we can see the release iso... :p
[07:53] <barnetod> neil wow
[07:53] <Flannel> !ef
[07:53] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[07:53] <krazykit> Neil3: nah.  linux can wait.
[07:53] <Fujitsu> !ef
[07:53] <rwscold> Neil thats hilarious
[07:53] <fluvvell> !XDMCP
[07:53] <barnetod> giving up a woman for an o/s?
[07:53] <ArrenLex> Neil3: This is why Linux users should not be allowed girlfriends. I feel sorry for her.
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about XDMCP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <barnetod> holy crap
[07:54] <hsingarajah> AllenRex - My friend just handed me this CD.  That's why. Otherwise I'd have just installed it.
[07:54] <Flannel> fluvvell: what you want to know about XDMCP?
[07:54] <ArrenLex> fhqwhgads: Then hand it back to him and download your own, I guess.
[07:54] <barnetod> man my wife waves it in my face and computers are the last thing im thinking
[07:54] <hsingarajah> Also who here has used Fedora Core and can tell me why Ubuntu is better than Fedora Core/Red Hat?
[07:54] <barnetod> good lordd
[07:54] <Neil3> a linux like this only comes once in a blue moon, i think i can make an exception :)
[07:54] <Nafallo> xzhang: well, we need an awake release manager for once ;-).
[07:54] <fluvvell> Flannel, see above conversation with RancidLM
[07:54] <barnetod> neil computer will always be around
[07:54] <xzhang> Nafallo: hah :)
[07:54] <barnetod> erectile function will not
[07:54] <barnetod> lol
[07:54] <krazykit> hsingarajah: easy.  apt-get is superior to yum
[07:54] <Neil3> hahaha
[07:54] <rwscold> I tell my wife to go to sleep I'm busy so she does
[07:54] <hobbes_> blue moon every six months?
[07:55] <barnetod> neil i make a point
[07:55] <barnetod> lol
[07:55] <hsingarajah> krazykit - You mean that package or program downloading thing thign
[07:55] <sproingie> carpe feminam.  your gf *will* know why you spurned her
[07:55] <Neil3> lucky i have a skin infection so that's my cover story for now, although it's clearing up
[07:55] <wastrel> blue moons occur about every 2.5 years
[07:55] <sproingie> on that note, 'nite
[07:55] <fluvvell> Flannel, I was curious if ubotu had anything as well. It works such a treat
[07:55] <krazykit> hsingarajah: yes.  i do.
[07:55] <rwscold> the way medicine is going these days we will be able to get it up into our late 80's
[07:55] <Flannel> fluvvell: ah, you already got all the info, good. right.
[07:55] <kupesoft> WHEN'S IT COMIN' OUT?!
[07:55] <kupesoft> I NEEDS IT
[07:55] <exhale> lol
[07:55] <wastrel> sometime today, or tomorrow
[07:55] <krazykit> kupesoft: within 24 hours
[07:55] <Born_In_Xixax> hsingarajah: main advantages I gather are that ubuntu is focused on ease of use and desktop usage, as well as providing a fully free open source solution
[07:55] <barnetod> lol rws but a leaky anus side effect is the last thing you want when curing that problem
[07:55] <hsingarajah> krazykit - great - keep talking!! I'd like to hear more about this crazy ooboontoo  of yours
[07:55] <barnetod> lol
[07:55] <ArrenLex> kupe: 26th. Daytime. Sometime. Patience.
[07:55] <hkl8324> hello, can I use xvmc in mplayer if I am using an ATI card?
[07:56] <rwscold> HAHA
[07:56] <kupesoft> I need the eft.  I need it. I need it.
[07:56] <krazykit> hsingarajah: nah.  i'm going to bed.
[07:56] <zircx> heya guys, hows it hanging, quick fire question, does anyone else suffer issues with java not operating properly, I mean sure i get the applet coming up when i test some sites and on others firefox crashes entirely, does anyone have this sorta problem at all?
[07:56] <ArrenLex> hklsomenumbers: what's xvmc?
[07:56] <Fujitsu> !ef | kupesoft
[07:56] <ubotu> kupesoft: Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[07:56] <Born_In_Xixax> redhat is goint to be superior in many ways, most of them technical and organizational
[07:56] <h3htimo> can you upgrade to edgy eft yet??
[07:56] <ArrenLex> zircx: are you trying to use sun java or gij?
[07:56] <hsingarajah> born_In_Xxax - So basically for people who are hardcore.
[07:56] <hkl8324> I cant play mpeg2 TS file in linux smoothly, but I can do that in windows...
[07:56] <Fujitsu> Born_In_Xixax: That is offtopic, and bordering on trolling...
[07:56] <zircx> ArrenLex; sun java is what I was using
[07:56] <lotusleaf> I've got the fever! and there's only one thing that can cure it.. MORE EDGY COWBELL!
[07:56] <zircx> ArrenLex; the virtual machine..
[07:57] <rwscold> Whats redhat hahaha!
[07:57] <hsingarajah> Born_In_Xixax - who's borderline trolling?
[07:57] <ArrenLex> hklnumbers: do you mean the xvideo output driver?
[07:57] <zircx> I believe there's 1.4.2 and 1.5.x
[07:57] <Kameli> Hi, Samsung offers CRT Monitor drivers for Windows, but do i need any drivers for Samsung 959NF CRT monitor?
[07:57] <rawrness> edgy edgy fever
[07:57] <Born_In_Xixax> ok, no desire to do so
[07:57] <rawrness> lalalalala
[07:57] <hsingarajah> Born_In_Xixax - me?
[07:57] <Kameli> llalalala
[07:57] <Kameli> Hi, Samsung offers CRT Monitor drivers for Windows, but do i need any drivers for Samsung 959NF CRT monitor?
[07:57] <exhale> Kameli, nu
[07:57] <krazykit> Kameli: no.  no drivers are needed.
[07:57] <exhale> no*
[07:57] <ArrenLex> Kameli: you don't need monitor drivers. You need video card drivers.
[07:57] <Kameli> krazykit: ok :)
[07:57] <hsingarajah> Born_In_Xixax - Are you under the impression that I'm troling?
[07:57] <Flannel> hsingarajah, Born_In_Xixax, take that question/answer in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:57] <Madpilot> Kameli, you shouldn't need drivers; my Samsung 950B doesn't
[07:57] <Ayabara> how can I upgrade from dapper to edgy using apt?
[07:58] <exhale> Nafallo, on some fishy mirror site
[07:58] <exhale> :P
[07:58] <Nafallo> exhale: hehe
[07:58] <Fujitsu> Is feisty released yet? Is it usable?
[07:58] <upt1me> when will the mirrors get edgy?
[07:58] <rwscold> haha my monitor ismy home theater projector lol anyone else have a 90 inch monitor?
[07:58] <Fujitsu> Ayabara: #ubuntu+1, please.
[07:58] <Fujitsu> !ef
[07:58] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[07:58] <zircx> also, hows everyone finding Kubuntu? I believe it's a version of Kde that is nice and trimmed down, compiled for speed? similar to that of Gnome under Ubuntu? yeah?
[07:58] <Born_In_Xixax> purpose of this channel is ubuntu technical support, a distro vs distro opinion fest is probably not appropropriate here
[07:58] <Flannel> upt1me: when it's officially released
[07:58] <Kameli> Madpilot: What they drivers can give to me? :) More options to adjust for my monitor? Better image quality? =)
[07:58] <hsingarajah> Flannel - no wait, I dont' get it - why do you think I'm trolling? I'm new to Ubuntu and want to know why it's better than another Distro.  It seems to be mroe popular,
[07:58] <krazykit> Fujitsu: feisty hasn't even started.  give it a few weeks.
[07:58] <hsingarajah> I just didn't know why.
[07:58] <hobbes_> anyone remember how long usually till they open new repos for feisty?
[07:58] <barnetod> rws you should see my home theater
[07:58] <hobbes_> after summit?
[07:58] <Ayabara> Fujitsu, still too early? :-)
[07:58] <Fujitsu> hobbes_: nobody can remember that, as it hasn't been decided yet.
[07:58] <ArrenLex> zircx: kubuntu = ubuntu - gnome + kde. It's not optimised.
[07:58] <Madpilot> Fujitsu, just keep hitting !ef
[07:58] <barnetod> rws you need to invest in screen goo best stuff on earth for projectors
[07:58] <Flannel> Born_In_Xixax, hsingarajah, Your topic is *perfect* for #ubuntu-offtopic, but not #ubuntu, continue there ;)
[07:59] <Fujitsu> Madpilot: It's the most useful factoid in the bot!
[07:59] <Kameli> hey, when the edgy comes to repos! =)
[07:59] <rwscold> barn where you from
[07:59] <rawrness> well arren
[07:59] <kupesoft> I need it. I really need it. Someone give it to me.
[07:59] <hkl8324> ArrenLex, I mean Xvideo Motion Compensation -vo
[07:59] <SaLsIcHa> hum
[07:59] <zircx> ArrenLex , oh it's just a standard kde heh? bummer, I was thinking that it might be.. ah well, I'm happy to stick to ubuntu without kde in that sense
[07:59] <Fujitsu> kupesoft: Wait a few hours.
[07:59] <SaLsIcHa> #define DISKNAME  Ubuntu 6.10 "Edgy Eft" - Release i386 o.o
[07:59] <rawrness> what if you got gnome+kde+xcfe?
[07:59] <kupesoft> I can't, man.  I am going to die.
[07:59] <rawrness> then what do you got :P
[07:59] <ArrenLex> zircx: kde owns all.
[07:59] <barnetod> rws middle of no where GA
[07:59] <SaLsIcHa> release = rc? :P
[07:59] <rawrness> releaae canadait
[07:59] <barnetod> only live here cause of work
[07:59] <hkl8324> I read in wikipedia it can speed up video playing
[07:59] <Flannel> SaLsIcHa: no.  It's not released yet.
[07:59] <ArrenLex> rawrness: ubuntu+gnome+kde+xfce = bloat = hard drive crashing
[07:59] <rwscold> barnetod make a room talk to me about home theaters
[08:00] <rwscold> what is the screen goo
[08:00] <rawrness> XD
[08:00] <zircx> ArrenLex; it's not when it's sucking 990 of my 1024MB of ram, I'll have an optimised Gnome any day of the week
[08:00] <Kameli> Does anyone know why CRT monitor needs drivers on Windows but not on Linux, can CRT drivers give more options to adjust monitor, or maybe better image quality? =)
[08:00] <SaLsIcHa> Flannel, but, http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ :P
[08:00] <ArrenLex> zircx: gnome isn't optimised any more than kde is.
[08:00] <rwscold> the drivers in windows tell windows what its capable of displaying i think
[08:00] <Fujitsu> Kameli: because Windows is deranged, no, and no.
[08:00] <rwscold> like res and hz
[08:00] <Madpilot> Kameli, Windows needs drivers because Windows bites.
[08:00] <Flannel> SaLsIcHa: it's not released yet.
[08:00] <Nafallo> SaLsIcHa: oh! does it have feisty as well? :-)
[08:01] <Tomcat_> SaLsIcHa: Nice. ;)
[08:01] <yoink> lay off of feisty
[08:01] <barnetod> get the pm
[08:01] <rwscold> no do u have aim?
[08:01] <zircx> ArrenLex; I beg to differ in regards to what Ubuntu have done to make gnome much better than a standard gnome installation as well as a kde installation
[08:01] <barnetod> i pmd you on here
[08:01] <barnetod> :)
[08:01] <rwscold> i dont have a registered account on freenode so now pms
[08:01] <rwscold> lol
[08:01] <rwscold> too lazy
[08:01] <ArrenLex> zircx: which is? And what is a "standard" installation?
[08:01] <barnetod> mines not either lol guess i cant send them
[08:01] <AdamKili> how do i fix this error in Azureus when i try to open a .torrent file with it? file:///home/adam/Desktop/Downloads/1-20.torrent' could not be opened: Not a File
[08:01] <azureal> i love it...firefox2  =P
[08:02] <barnetod> #TheGoo :) try that
[08:02] <zircx> ArrenLex; I've run Gnome on Freebsd, it's a dog.. chews up my mem no different to Kde
[08:02] <barnetod> azu bad thing about firefox 2 is the annoying misspelled word red line that pops up
[08:02] <Kameli> Hey, tell me when they Edgy Eft comes to the repos? =) i like download edgy after school <3
[08:02] <Lam_> how do i open another server screen in xchat?
[08:02] <ArrenLex> barnetod: the spellchecker pwns you.
[08:02] <Fujitsu> !ef
[08:02] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[08:02] <ArrenLex> ^B^B^B^Bowns
[08:02] <zircx> ArrenLex ; for some reason it doesn't do that with Ubuntu as well as Dropline Gnome for slackware, it seems to run much faster, optimised? compiled better possibly?
[08:02] <Nafallo> hmm, people really want to upgrade for some reason :-)
[08:03] <Lam_> edgy is amazing
[08:03] <ArrenLex> zircx: I've no idea. Try KDE if you want. If you really want something light and fast, try xfce?
[08:03] <lotusleaf> Lam_: I agree, and chicks dig it
[08:03] <bug> so should i wait to do the dist-upgrade/synaptic "mark all upgrades" then?
[08:03] <Nafallo> well, so is dapper :-)
[08:03] <Lam_> lotusleaf: hells yeah.
[08:03] <rawrness> Torvalds has commented on official GNOME developmental mailing lists that, in terms of desktop environments, he encourages users to switch to KDE [2] .
[08:03] <ArrenLex> Nafallo: This is all Linux users have to live for.
[08:03] <Kameli> Has edgy better performance? More FPS? =)))
[08:03] <Lam_> rawrness: everyone has their flavors.  i personally like kde though.  i think it's a lot more stable
[08:03] <bug> it has realtime weapon changing!
[08:03] <krazykit> rawrness: torvalds develops the kernel.  anything else he says is really no big deal.
[08:03] <Nafallo> Kameli: I've heard the opposite yesterday to be honest.
[08:04] <Madpilot> rawrness, just because he's a genuis doesn't mean Torvalds doesn't say some very silly things
[08:04] <stan> is ubuntu using the official firefox icon now rather than going with iceweasel?
[08:04] <zircx> ArrenLex; just out of curiousity, I was running Kde for 7 years before I changed to Gnome finding the differences... ?! I guess the question is, does it chew up alot of memory ?
[08:04] <Madpilot> rawrness, genius,even
[08:04] <Nafallo> stan: yes
[08:04] <Fujitsu> stan: We have approval from Mozilla to use the official one.
[08:04] <Fujitsu> (so yes)
[08:04] <bug> ah.. that's great
[08:04] <upt1me> http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[08:04] <ArrenLex> zircx: alex@ubuntu:/tmp$ cat /proc/meminfo
[08:04] <ArrenLex> MemTotal:      1033572 kB
[08:04] <ArrenLex> MemFree:         20100 kB
[08:04] <ArrenLex> You tell me.
[08:04] <mnepton> Fujitsu: less "approval" than "an agreement on procedure"
[08:04] <exhale> wow... just wow
[08:04] <zircx> I mean Gnome currently chewws 200-400MB of ram
[08:05] <krazykit> zircx: then use xfce.
[08:05] <Fujitsu> mnepton: They are fairly similar...
[08:05] <Nafallo> !ef | upt1me
[08:05] <ubotu> upt1me: Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[08:05] <ArrenLex> zircx: actually, that was with folding@home running and a zombie java vm left over.
[08:05] <zircx> krazykit; nah xfce isn't what I'd call a nice desktop
[08:05] <ArrenLex> MemFree:        132096 kB
[08:05] <ArrenLex> Much better.
[08:05] <krazykit> zircx: funny, i much prefer it over gnome.
[08:05] <bug> i prefer it
[08:05] <zircx> ArrenLex; that is pretty impressive
[08:05] <exhale> how do you see memory status?
[08:06] <mnepton> Fujitsu: yeah, but "approval" doesn't really get across that "we promise to have changes and patches approved by Moz" :/
[08:06] <InvisiblePinkUni> isn't edgy already out?
[08:06] <bug> to me, it seems like a faster gnome
[08:06] <zircx> krazykit; user preference I guess
[08:06] <krazykit> then again, i just use e17 for my desktop.
[08:06] <Madpilot> InvisiblePinkUni, not yet - cool nick, btw, too bad you can't get the full name in there ;)
[08:06] <bug> according to ubuntu.com, it is.. but all of the download links are for the release candidate
[08:06] <zircx> I haven't used Enlightemment since slackware 7.0
[08:06] <Nafallo> InvisiblePinkUni: nope
[08:06] <AdamKili> how do i fix this error in Azureus when i try to open a .torrent file with it? file:///home/adam/Desktop/Downloads/1-20.torrent' could not be opened: Not a File
[08:06] <mnepton> Fujitsu: but yeah, a one-time sign-off would be great. but they didn't bite.
[08:06] <Fujitsu> mnepton: Well, that's what I meant by approval, but I guess I can't really assume people outside the Canonical/dev. community know that.
[08:06] <bug> maybe you need to redownload the torrent?
[08:06] <InvisiblePinkUni> Madpilot: peace be unto her ;)
[08:07] <Fujitsu> bug, it hasn't been released yet.
[08:07] <mnepton> Fujitsu: oh, BTW. before you use my nick in public i'd like you to submit your tab-complete to me for approval, mmkay?
[08:07] <Madpilot> InvisiblePinkUni, right, and may you also be touched by His Noodly Appendage, ramen.
[08:07] <mnepton> :/
[08:07] <bug> Fujitsu, right.. that's what i'm saying. the page *says* that it has, but it hasn't really yet
[08:07] <Ayabara> what should my DISPLAY variable be set to. I get "cannot connect to X server :0.0" when I try to 'sudo gedit' something
[08:07] <Fujitsu> bug, the page says it is released today. It doesn't say it has been released.
[08:08] <bug> Fujitsu, ah.. semantics strike yet again
[08:08] <Fujitsu> (it is misleading, and really shouldn't have that image there, but still)
[08:08] <InvisiblePinkUni> Madpilot: why does the ubuntu homepage display 6.10 when the download is not yet available?
[08:08] <mnepton> bug: the website is misleading it is being handled.
[08:08] <Fujitsu> mnepton: Good :)
[08:08] <ArrenLex> InvisiblePinkUni: it's called the Adobe Flash Effect.
[08:08] <upt1me> the non-rc file is here http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[08:08] <Nafallo> Fujitsu: did someone make something dumb?
[08:08] <upt1me> the server is extremely slow
[08:08] <sacker_> ayabara gksudo gedit file i believe
[08:08] <bug> ehh i'm going to bed. i'll dl tomorrow
[08:09] <bug> have fun
[08:09] <Nafallo> upt1me: you're sure we won't respin the images for a last-moment rc-bugfix?
[08:09] <rawrness> gag how dare you diect link to th eio
[08:09] <Fujitsu> Nafallo: See ubuntu.com
[08:09] <khaije1> whats the release status?
[08:09] <Fujitsu> !ef
[08:09] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[08:09] <rawrness> now my dwl go slower :P
[08:09] <zircx> does ubuntu have a large package repository for kde yet? because they were pretty much  native with gnome as a desktop weren't they
[08:09] <Madpilot> InvisiblePinkUni, no idea; webmaster jumped the gun, I guess
[08:10] <InvisiblePinkUni> ArrenLex: is that meant to be visible only after some particular time?
[08:10] <khaije1> Fujitsu: so not available, but still *technically* on schedule?
[08:10] <ArrenLex> zircx: Of course ubuntu has all kde packages.
[08:10] <Nafallo> Fujitsu: I would say no then :-). that's just promotion :-)
[08:10] <Flannel> zircx: no, both ubuntu and kubuntu are mature
[08:10] <wastrel> zircx:  ubuntu has kde packages and a kde-based version called kubuntu
[08:10] <Fujitsu> khaije1: Not just technically. Still very much on schedule.
[08:10] <fluvvell> is anyone having any joy with beagle ?
[08:10] <zircx> i see, Flannel that's nice to know..
[08:10] <Nafallo> Fujitsu: they should have put it up a week ago or something :-).
[08:10] <InvisiblePinkUni> Madpilot: lol
[08:10] <upt1me> if you look in that directory there are rc and non-rc images.  Also take note of the file modifcatiion dates.  i believe .pool/ is where the mirrors pull down the isos from
[08:11] <Ayabara> sacker_, that did the trick. thanks
[08:11] <Fujitsu> upt1me: That DOESN'T mean they're final.
[08:11] <mnepton> nothing in .pool has been designated a final release yet
[08:11] <zircx> OooO man i'm tempted to give that baby a run ...
[08:11] <khaije1> fluvvell: it's a little heavy for my little machine, but it's pleasant to use and usefull
[08:11] <Nafallo> upt1me: no, the mirrors doesn't even push from that mirror AFAIK
[08:11] <kubuntu> Can someone assist with a Mount issue?
[08:11] <fluvvell> khaijel, do you also use evolution email per chance?
[08:11] <crimsun> When it's final, trust me, the release team will give the notice.
[08:12] <khaije1> fluvvell: nopers
[08:12] <InvisiblePinkUni> upt1me: good info :)
[08:12] <ArrenLex> !someone > kubuntu
[08:12] <kubuntu> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - trydmesg | tail  or so
[08:12] <czer323> "It's done when it's done."
[08:12] <mnepton> one more time: no image that has been produced thus far has been blessed by the release team as final. please do not waste your bandwidth or ours.
[08:12] <ArrenLex> kubuntu: you're trying to mount the whole drive. You should be mounting a partition.
[08:12] <kubuntu> I get that error when mounting my drive even though I gave it the FS type
[08:13] <fluvvell> khaijel, I get Could not connect to the daemon.     from beagle-status, just looking for someone with a bit more experience on it than me
[08:13] <zircx> Although I must say, i do like the network share options that come with gnome..
[08:13] <czer323> Besides, I want a torrent file.  WIth this many people, server's gonna be hit hard.
[08:13] <kubuntu> ArrenLex: Sorry that should be /dev/hdb1
[08:13] <Nafallo> InvisiblePinkUni: that's because of the LTS ;-)
[08:13] <ArrenLex> kubuntu: run sudo fdisk -l | grep hdb1
[08:13] <ArrenLex> Paste what it says
[08:13] <zircx> especially since i'm lazy I can just connect to either of my boxes without too much hassle..
[08:14] <khaije1> fluvvell: i doubt i could help because it "Just Worked" for me, i didn't even look under the hood or read and docs
[08:14] <mnepton> czer323: there will be a few fast seeds as soon as the release is announced.
[08:14] <kubuntu>  /dev/hdb1               1       24321   195358401    7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:14] <fluvvell> khaijel, do you remember what you installed?
[08:14] <khaije1> fluvvell: i'll check brb
[08:14] <fluvvell> ta
[08:14] <czer323> mnepton, That's extremely good news.  Can someone at least make a suggestion as to how much longer we'll need to wait?  A couple hours... 12 hours?
[08:14] <ArrenLex> kubuntu: and the line "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 <mountpoint" doesn't work?
[08:14] <ArrenLex> >" *
[08:15] <mnepton> czer323: "When it's ready."
[08:15] <Nafallo> czer323: noone knows.
[08:15] <czer323> lol
[08:15] <ArrenLex> sdb **
[08:15] <lotusleaf> czer323: I've got Edgy fever!
[08:15] <czer323> "It's done when i'ts done."
[08:15] <ArrenLex> hdb
[08:15] <lotusleaf> what's the secret of life? Ubuntu!
[08:15] <mnepton> i've got a fever. and the only prescription is ...
[08:15] <kubuntu> ArrenLex: Gives me the same error as above
[08:15] <czer323> EDGY
[08:15] <Nafallo> mnepton: debians reason are still going strong :-D
[08:15] <khaije1> fluvvell: i installed this package "beagle - indexing and search tool for your personal data"
[08:15] <ArrenLex> kubuntu: pastebin "dmesg | tail"
[08:15] <zircx> that's actually a good question, is it easy enough upgrading from one release to the next without too much hassle?
[08:15] <mnepton> Nafallo: we imported that with no diffs
[08:16] <Nafallo> mnepton: hehe
[08:16] <Nafallo> straight sync :-). that's how it should be :-).
[08:16] <fluvvell> khaijel, hah, maybe I installed too much stuff
[08:16] <wastrel> zircx:  i recommend backing up before attempting to upgrade
[08:16] <khaije1> fluvvell: you probably need to install this also though  "beagle-backend-evolution"
[08:16] <wastrel> but the goal is to be able to upgrade easily
[08:16] <fluvvell> khaijel, yeah, did that and run out of file descriptors regularly
[08:17] <Mukunda> Hello, is there any news when Edgy will be out?
[08:17] <fluvvell> !ef
[08:17] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[08:17] <zircx> wastrel; ah okies, i guess it's a matter of downloading the iso of the latest release and running an upgrade option?
[08:17] <Mukunda> As in what hour<timezone> ?
[08:17] <khaije1> fluvvell: "run out"
[08:17] <khaije1> ?
[08:17] <Nafallo> Mukunda: which ever :-)
[08:17] <Mukunda> ubotu: oki doki, thanks.
[08:17] <kofwang> www.ubuntu.com 's frontpage has changed to 6.10?
[08:17] <zircx> Thu Oct 26 19:17:54 NZDT 2006
[08:17] <fluvvell> khaijel, I get a too many files open error
[08:17] <SaLsIcHa> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease
[08:17] <Nafallo> kofwang: that's just promotion
[08:18] <zircx> Ooo. that means edgy is being released?!
[08:18] <Mukunda> Hrmm, I'm hoping they've fixed up the bug with wireless cards, the RC had a big problem.
[08:18] <crimsun> Mukunda: which problem?
[08:18] <bimberi> kofwang: yes, prematurely
[08:18] <kofwang> but it says "released"...
[08:18] <Mukunda> crimsun: the kernel would panic, umm can't remember exactly, some softlock thing.
[08:18] <fluvvell> khaijel, I'm blaming beagle because it all worked sweetly until then.  Now evolution locks up three or four times a day
[08:18] <girox> Hi! What is simple texteditor in consol mode? (I am very newbie...)
[08:18] <Tomcat_> girox: nano
[08:18] <girox> thx
[08:18] <crimsun> Mukunda: kinda vague. Got any further details?
[08:19] <Mukunda> crimsun: hang on. See if I can find it.
[08:19] <fluvvell> khaijel, and it dumps any emails I'm working on at the time.
[08:19] <zircx> nano seems to be the easiest to maneuver around although I must admit I never knew it existed until I started using Ubuntut
[08:19] <bimberi> kofwang: exactly.  It shouldn't
[08:19] <zircx> lol
[08:19] <mnepton> girox: sudo apt-get install ne
[08:19] <SdobSiSdub> Where I can download edgy?
[08:20] <kubuntu> ArrenLex: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/222315
[08:20] <mnepton> girox: ne is probably the best editor for someone new to Linux's CLI
[08:20] <rajasekaran> Hi,how to run devils pie
[08:20] <bimberi> SdobSiSdub: you can get the release candidate via http://ubuntu.com/download
[08:20] <khaije1> fluvvell: thats odd, i don't know why that would be, have you tried removing the config files and re-installing?
[08:21] <ArrenLex> kubuntu: this thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS
[08:21] <SdobSiSdub> today must be release
[08:21] <ArrenLex> kubuntu: is toast
[08:21] <girox> thx
[08:21] <zircx> erm, It can't get any worse than trying to get my non-dvd playing rom to try and play a dvd, it was dark, I couldn't read my rom because it's black .. and yeah.. that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it..
[08:21] <Timmy|GDS> Hey. Apt-get/synaptic both aren't working for me right now. Anybody want me to give them an output when I try to apply in synaptic?
[08:21] <lotusleaf> Ubuntu needs some hot ch1x0rz to model for Ubuntu, like Sola Aoi http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/63#comment-9912
[08:21] <Nafallo> SdobSiSdub: today doesn't have to be just now.
[08:21] <fluvvell> khaijel, well I did a reinstall of the beagle packages, but I'm thinking about trying again. Was looking for any pearls of wisdom so might try your suggestion.
[08:21] <ArrenLex> kubuntu: secifically: The Master File Table (MFT) essentially contains metadata about every file and directory on an NTFS file system. It includes parameters such as location, size, and permissions. It is used to aid in minimizing disk fragmentation.
[08:21] <ArrenLex> specifically **
[08:21] <ArrenLex> MFT is toast.
[08:21] <kubuntu> ArrenLex: Ah Ok can that be rebuilt?
[08:21] <mnepton> girox: when ne is installed, just type "ne" (no quotes) at a prompt and then hit <esc>
[08:21] <SdobSiSdub> ubuntu.com updated
[08:22] <elderrr> what's the advantage of lrm ?
[08:22] <hkl8324> add a .pool to a random FTP/HTTP mirror, and you will know that 6.10 is indeed released
[08:22] <ArrenLex> kubuntu: does this partition mount under Windows? How did this happen -- did you try something dangerous like writing to it?
[08:22] <Nafallo> hkl8324: no. you won't. and it's not.
[08:22] <kubuntu> ArrenLex: nope just tried moutning it
[08:22] <Timmy|GDS> :|
[08:22] <elderrr> disadvantage ?
[08:23] <thelsdj> anyone notice ubuntu gets sluggish after a few days and reboot really helps? i've tried things like restart firefox/azureus/etc but that doesn't seem to help much, maybe restarting X might do more, anyone else have tips on how to keep system snappy?
[08:23] <hh> are there any other irc servers besides freenode that are worth being on?
[08:23] <ArrenLex> kubuntu: at this point, google is your best friend, because your problem has become very specific, easily described, specialised troubleshooting.
[08:23] <Timmy|GDS> thelsdj: how much ram do you have, what type, and processor speed?
[08:23] <kubuntu> ArrenLex: can some application (windows or other wise) repair this?
[08:23] <ArrenLex> kubuntu: good luck :)
[08:23] <kubuntu> ArrenLex: IE repair MFT NTFS ?
[08:24] <kubuntu> i.e no IE
[08:24] <zircx> thelsdj; possibly a new machine.. ubuntu never seems to get sluggish with me..
[08:24] <hkl8324> Nafallo, only RC and RTM get synced to mirrors
[08:24] <ArrenLex> kubuntu: sure.
[08:24] <thelsdj> 1gb ram, 2ghz amd semperon
[08:24] <zircx> I'm actually very happy with ubuntu as a desktop..
[08:24] <Kameli> edgyy edgyyy
[08:24] <Kameli> here im
[08:25] <Nafallo> hkl8324: yea? and if we spin new isos for rc-bugs?
[08:25] <Timmy|GDS> thelsdj: clear cache often, and use fluxbox or xfce
[08:25] <Nafallo> rc + dist-upgrade would be more stable.
[08:25] <mnepton> hkl8324: 6.10 has not yet been released. i assure you in the strongest possible terms.
[08:25] <thelsdj> Timmy|GDS: clear cache?
[08:25] <Timmy|GDS> yeah
[08:25] <thelsdj> which cache?
[08:25] <Kameli> i need more Tweak Guides to ubuntuforums ! i have done them all =(
[08:25] <zircx> ah dist-upgrades brings that baby up to date then heh..
[08:25] <zircx> you learn something everyday
[08:25] <Timmy|GDS> On firefox hit ctrl shift delete
[08:26] <Timmy|GDS> clear it all
[08:26] <Timmy|GDS> that frees up a good bit if you use the net alot
[08:26] <Timmy|GDS> especially dynamic sites like myspace
[08:26] <Timmy|GDS> But get edgy
[08:26] <hkl8324> Nafallo, experience tell me that wont happen
[08:26] <hh> are there any other irc servers besides freenode that are worth being on?
[08:26] <lotusleaf> *<:O) Edgy is better than Jesus
[08:26] <Timmy|GDS> alot of the memory leaks are fixed, and boot times are faster
[08:26] <zircx> question, nvidia drivers, is it better to install the ones that are part of the repository or is it better to stick to the vendors driver releases?
[08:27] <Nafallo> hkl8324: us to you I guess. still not released :-)
[08:27] <Timmy|GDS> Edgy IS better than jesus
[08:27] <thelsdj> actually i am using edgy :)
[08:27] <Timmy|GDS> Heh
[08:27] <Timmy|GDS> WELL THEN
[08:27] <ArrenLex> Timmy: The beatles just rolled over in their grave.
[08:27] <Timmy|GDS> Fluxbox or XFCE4
[08:27] <ArrenLex> sorry, Timmy -> lotusleaf
[08:27] <Timmy|GDS> ArrenLex: Yay
[08:27] <mnepton> ArrenLex: including Paul and Ringo?
[08:27] <lotusleaf> ArrenLex: all you need is love! yeah, john, and a bulletproof vest! *trombone*
[08:27] <zircx> erm I'm going to donload edgy! w00t
[08:28] <Timmy|GDS> DO IT
[08:28] <Rookie_> !caps
[08:28] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:28] <zircx> !taps
[08:28] <ArrenLex> mneopton: their big collective grave where the worshippers sacrifice goats on tuesdays, pagan chants on wednesdays, casual dress on fridays.
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about taps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <hkl8324> Nafallo, OK...not officially released, but can be downloaded...:D
[08:28] <zircx> lol
[08:28] <thelsdj> yea i used to use blackbox back in the day, though i'm using ubuntu/gnome now because for like 5 years i went really minimal on GUI and such so thuoght i'd try the heavy gui thing for a whlie hehe
[08:28] <thelsdj> (though i'm still using irssi)
[08:28] <mnepton> ArrenLex: we call it "G String Friday" around here ;)
[08:28] <Timmy|GDS> Lol, caps piss people off so much. Blackbox owns too. Using irssi too here
[08:28] <Nafallo> hkl8324: edgy have been downloadable for months, so yea ;-).
[08:29] <lotusleaf> Nafallo: in soviet russia, months download you!
[08:29] <mnepton> hkl8324: it cannot be downloaded, as no images have been blessed as -final yet.
[08:29] <ArrenLex> lotusleaf: XD
[08:29] <hkl8324> Nafallo, you know what I mean
[08:29] <khaije1> !patience
[08:29] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:29] <Nafallo> hkl8324: sure. yea meant 6.10 :-)
[08:29] <mnepton> hkl8324: you are welcome to download 20061026 dailies, but there's no guarantee that those are final.
[08:29] <khaije1> !thermonuclearwar
[08:29] <Timmy|GDS> So can anybody help me with synaptic?
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thermonuclearwar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <ArrenLex> !anybody
[08:30] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:30] <JoseStefan> mnepton, you could confirm md5sums
[08:30] <ArrenLex> !NSA Wiretapping
[08:30] <khaije1> LOL!!
[08:30] <Timmy|GDS> ubotu: what is the meaning of life?
[08:30] <JNeverMind> ubuntu-6.10-rc is this the one ?
[08:30] <Flannel> !ef
[08:30] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[08:30] <ArrenLex> Aw, he's ignoring me. :(
[08:30] <mnepton> JoseStefan: an md5sum tells you nothing about whether the .iso itself has been made official by the release team
[08:31] <khaije1> ArrenLex: they must have gotten to him
[08:31] <Wil> Hello. Anyone know of a good program that I can use to manage my m3u playlists? (Sorting, Removing Duplicates, etc) ... XMMS doesn't have the best playlist manager.
[08:31] <ArrenLex> Wil: Amarok?
[08:31] <khaije1> ArrenLex: Han Solo was right "can't trust bots"
[08:31] <Amaranth> Timmy|GDS: watch this :)
[08:31] <Amaranth> ubotu: what is the meaning of life?
[08:31] <ubotu> what is already known
[08:31] <Timmy|GDS> Well, I guess nobody here can help me. I got a few words for you all then. Go download scatterchat. BoW to the CoW. GreenDiamond- OUT
[08:31] <Amaranth> bah
[08:31] <JoseStefan> mnepton, when final is released, you can check your downloaded daily with the final's md5sum
[08:31] <Amaranth> Timmy|GDS: nevermind
[08:31] <Timmy|GDS> :)
[08:32] <mnepton> JoseStefan: why waste the bandwidth?
[08:32] <ArrenLex> ubotu: r u hott? ;)
[08:32] <JoseStefan> mnepton, hopefully, nothing would have changed and they would be the same fail, renamed
[08:32] <JoseStefan> file*
[08:32] <Akuma_> nub Q: where can i find the kernel's c header files?
[08:32] <JoseStefan> (oops)
[08:32] <h0ser> Hey folks. Anyone know how to recover your password for NickServ?
[08:32] <h0ser> SENDPASS command doesn't work.
[08:32] <mnepton> JoseStefan: and "hopefully" you didn;t download 700MB for nothing, placing starin on Canonical infrastructure needlessly on a release day. why not just wait?
[08:33] <mnepton> *strain
[08:33] <Flannel> h0ser: talk to a staff member
[08:33] <JoseStefan> that also true, but some people are very impacient :S
[08:34] <lotusleaf> JoseStefan: Some of us have Edgy fever!
[08:34] <mnepton> JoseStefan: well, please don't actually *encourage* impatience ;)
[08:34] <h0ser> Thank you Flannel
[08:34] <zircx> ok, I'm out .. gonna do a fresh install
[08:34] <rawrness> it not even theth fo me and i got eht fe
[08:34] <rawrness> fever
[08:35] <rawrness> the 26th*
[08:35] <zircx> oh just on my question, nvidia drivers again, vendors or the ones that come in the repository? which is the better option to go?
[08:35] <hkl8324> Nafallo, mneption: We'll see if the MD5sum of 20061025 dailies match the final...no guarantee, not 100%, but 99.99%
[08:35] <zircx> I wanna add some glitz and glam to my desktop with some of that fancy stuff
[08:35] <mnepton> hkl8324: please do not place strain on servers unecessarily?
[08:35] <zircx> xgl crappers..
[08:35] <Nafallo> ofcourse. I like to keep that 0.01% open though.
[08:36] <Flannel> zircx: use the one from the repositories
[08:36] <upt1me> http://mirror3.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/releases/.pool/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[08:36] <lotusleaf> Everyone crow like a rooster at midnight to celebrate the release of Ubuntu Edgy, crow like a rooster the size of a gorilla.. CROW!
[08:36] <zircx> Flannel , thanks
[08:36] <zircx> ciao guys..
[08:36] <JNeverMind> do you guys know if the iso with -rc- in the name is the official release version ?
[08:36] <bimberi> JNeverMind: no
[08:36] <Flannel> JNeverMind: they're not.  Edgy is NOT released yet.
[08:36] <JoseStefan> other option, other than ISO is the dist-upgrade, might stress the servers less
[08:36] <Neil3> its out? :)
[08:36] <JNeverMind> ok thanks
[08:37] <azureal> btw, flannel, when it gets out, how would one upgrade from ubuntu server edition?
[08:37] <JoseStefan> actually, less stress on the servers would be the torrent
[08:37] <Flannel> !update
[08:37] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:37] <khaije1> slightly OT, but are there any opinions on lvm2 vs evms? I need to build a SAN
[08:37] <Nafallo> JoseStefan: word!
[08:37] <hh> can soemoen please tell me if there are any other irc servers worth being on?
[08:37] <Flannel> azureal: same process, change dapper to edgt, apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:37] <Nafallo> hh: no, probably not.
[08:37] <azureal> Flannel, but dont they recommend using some update-manager which requires ubuntu-desktop
[08:37] <JNeverMind> i notice the homepage was updated and thought it was out
[08:37] <JNeverMind> heh
[08:37] <LaserJock> Nafallo: I find freenode worth being on ;-)
[08:38] <Flannel> azureal: only for the desktop, dist upgrade works fine
[08:38] <Rookie_> qnet too
[08:38] <khaije1> JNeverMind: ya, not yet
[08:38] <Nafallo> LaserJock: yea, and one more that I won't tell you :-)
[08:38] <hh> what about gaming?
[08:38] <azureal> Flannel, oh, also i've been only using aptitude instead of apt-get
[08:38] <Flannel> azureal: that's fine too
[08:38] <hh> do game clans and such use freenode?
[08:38] <azureal> ok, thx
[08:38] <kofwang> what is aptitud?
[08:39] <hkl8324> mnepton, no, it is avoiding server congestion by donwloading before official announcement ^_^
[08:39] <kofwang> different with apt-get?
[08:39] <johso> hi. I need to setup some kind of proxy on my Ubuntu server. which should I choose? I've heard Squid is a good choice, but I have no clue how to configure it.
[08:39] <azureal> i think aptitude was originally just a debian thing
[08:39] <Rookie_> !aptitude
[08:39] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[08:39] <rexbinary> hh, no, try quakenet or gamesurge
[08:39] <Flannel> azureal: update-manager does some checks before upgrading (making sure they have ubuntu-desktop package installed, etc) that lessen the chance of those upgrades breaking, without a desktop meta package, you don't need to wrry about the new additionsl
[08:39] <lotusleaf> deck the halls with pretty lizards, edgy edgy edgy, edgy release day!
[08:40] <azureal> Flannel, ah, great
[08:40] <khaije1> !evms
[08:40] <ubotu> evms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component main, is standard. Version 2.5.4-5ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 82 kB, installed size 292 kB
[08:40] <rawrness> eat the porage of some sinner edgy edgy edgy release day
[08:40] <ArrenLex> porrrige.
[08:40] <Kameli> EDGYYYYYYYYYYYYY <3
[08:41] <khaije1> !lvm2
[08:41] <lotusleaf> omg edgy!
[08:41] <ubotu> lvm2: The Linux Logical Volume Manager. In component main, is standard. Version 2.02.02-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 272 kB, installed size 800 kB
[08:41] <Kameli> edgy!
[08:41] <Kameli> Faesty Fawn!
[08:41] <rawrness> Dgyae!!!
[08:41] <CheekyBoinc> stfu !
[08:41] <ArrenLex> Snorklemuffers!
[08:41] <savvas> eh?
[08:41] <khaije1> next release.... Grumpy Gnu?
[08:42] <exhale> lol
[08:42] <kofwang> ^^
[08:42] <khaije1> Gracefull Gnat?
[08:42] <exhale> i love the ubuntu names
[08:42] <savvas> let's make a poll and vote :p
[08:42] <Agrajag> Gregarious Goldfinch
[08:42] <lotusleaf> Sexy Seahorse
[08:42] <khaije1> Agrajag: i'm with you!
[08:42] <ArrenLex> Goddamn Geeks.
[08:42] <khaije1> lol
[08:42] <ranfart> good morning to everybody
[08:42] <Nafallo> savvas: why? sabdfl will choose to his liking anyways :-)
[08:42] <kubuntu> Galumphing Gorrilas!
[08:42] <rredd4> !language
[08:42] <khaije1> you can't do thatt!
[08:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:42] <exhale> where did that come from?
[08:42] <kismet_> so I followed the directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, but when I type "fglrxinfo" I get a very long list of "API ERROR" entries
[08:42] <lotusleaf> Prostituting Possum
[08:43] <CheekyBoinc> ^^
[08:43] <rawrness> Atomic Bunny!
[08:43] <khaije1> LMAO!
[08:43] <Flannel> !offtopic
[08:43] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:43] <plaf> Riddalin Rabbit
[08:43] <Agrajag> Nefarious Narwhal
[08:43] <lotusleaf> Basful Babboon
[08:43] <savvas> Bounty Chc
[08:43] <savvas> :p
[08:43] <lotusleaf> Gay Gorilla and Bashful Babboon
[08:43] <ranfart> sorry there are anybody knows when the 6.10 are available today?
[08:43] <rawrness> chronic Cow
[08:43] <ArrenLex> !ef
[08:43] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[08:43] <Kameli> Why edgy gives less FPS? =(
[08:44] <mnepton> http://www.mneptok.com/pony-cd-cover.jpg
[08:44] <lotusleaf> Kameli: Edgy creates worlds and reseeds forests with love and freedom
[08:44] <ArrenLex> XD
[08:44] <plaf> I think I'll finally switch back to ubuntu after leaving for a year. I tried hoary hedge hog, hated it, then left for FC5. so its either FC6 or edgy for me
[08:44] <drspin> is there a time set for edgy to release?? [
[08:44] <Agrajag> oh wow mneptok
[08:44] <kismet_> Please help me, I have NEVER gotten fglrx to work
[08:44] <Agrajag> haven't seen you since #beos
[08:45] <ArrenLex> You're very pretty, mnepton.
[08:45] <kubuntu> ArrenLex: Screw it :) I'm running some processes on this till tomorrow I'll try and fix it after that
[08:45] <lotusleaf> plaf: I'd rather gargle my own urine than use an RPM based distro
[08:45] <mnepton> Agrajag: ZB!
[08:45] <Agrajag> you got it in one.
[08:45] <mnepton> Agrajag: /whois loves me
[08:45] <Agrajag> hah
[08:45] <ranfart> if upgrade my 6.06 with the 6.10 release candidate. after i can upgrade the release candidate with the final 6.10, or there are some problems?
[08:45] <soundmaster80> hi, i have installed the server OS and i would like to add gnome....just the gui and no extras is there an easy way to do this?
[08:46] <plaf> lotusleaf: was the dependancy hell from 5.04 fixed recently? i haven't had that with RPMs
[08:46] <mnepton> Agrajag: back in 10. smoke break. also, i need to stop reading "is Edgy out yet?" before i spoon my eyeballs into my coffee.
[08:46] <lotusleaf> plaf: what dependancy hell?
[08:46] <ArrenLex> $ sudo apt-get install libmeaningoflife0
[08:46] <ArrenLex> E: Couldn't find package libmeaningoflife0
[08:46] <ArrenLex> Dammit, why isn't this in the repos yet?
[08:46] <gnu2it2> what do you restart to force reread of /etc/inetd.conf ?
[08:46] <lotusleaf> plaf: never had dependancy hell in Ubuntu
[08:46] <Agrajag> haha, yeah
[08:46] <Fujitsu> plaf: There was no dependency hell...
[08:46] <rawrness> soundmaster80, sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[08:46] <lotusleaf> plaf: I've been using Ubuntu since warty
[08:46] <plaf> lotusleaf: well maybe it wasn't wide spread, but I always had problems trying to install anything, and uninstalling was unthinkable lol
[08:46] <lotusleaf> plaf: do you work for Microsoft?
[08:46] <Fujitsu> plaf: It must have just been you.
[08:46] <rawrness> soundmaster80, sudo apt-get  install ubuntu-desktop *
[08:46] <plaf> uninstalling is just as bad in FC5 though
[08:46] <soundmaster80> doesn't that install all the extra packages
[08:47] <soundmaster80> open office and etc?
[08:47] <ranfart> if upgrade my 6.06 with the 6.10 release candidate. after i can upgrade the release candidate with the final 6.10, or there are some problems?
[08:47] <plaf> lotusleaf: I am not downplaying ubuntu, I am relaying my experience
[08:47] <exhale> soundmaster80, yes it does
[08:47] <lotusleaf> plaf: yes or no please ;)
[08:47] <soundmaster80> i don't need  all that
[08:47] <plaf> lotusleaf: no
[08:47] <elkbuntu> can people undertaking idle discussions kindly move themselves to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:47] <khaije1> plaf: my only dependency hell is when i'm depending on using ubuntu and i'm not allowed to (at work)
[08:47] <soundmaster80> btw, plaf i've never had dependancy problems
[08:47] <lotusleaf> plaf: Edgy is bliss, trust me
[08:47] <soundmaster80> in fact that's why i left RPMS
[08:47] <ranfart> if upgrade my 6.06 with the 6.10 release candidate. after i can upgrade the release candidate with the final 6.10, or there are some problems?
[08:47] <ArrenLex> plaf: apt-get remove dependency-problems
[08:48] <lotusleaf> plaf: I've been running Edgy since knot 3 and it's delicious
[08:48] <plaf> lotusleaf: hopefully it is, i plan to try it later tonight
[08:48] <Fujitsu> ranfart: just sudo aptitude update and sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[08:48] <rawrness> KINKY KITTY!
[08:48] <agutierr> someone has the direct link to 6.10 release ?
[08:48] <phr023n> what's an  idle discussions?
[08:48] <Fujitsu> !ef
[08:48] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[08:48] <boink> do you need to redo your xorg.conf after updating to edgy?
[08:48] <Agrajag> crusty crab
[08:48] <Fujitsu> agutierr: It hasn't been released yet.
[08:48] <soundmaster80> anywho, so there isn't a way to just install the desktop, not the extra packages
[08:48] <Fujitsu> boink: Not in most cases.
[08:48] <markdarb> Hi. I'm trying to play a Quicktime file (medium trailer from plumiefros.com), and so far to no success. I've tried installing xine, and that's just about all. Is there a particular package anyone would recommend installing?
[08:48] <agutierr> :-(
[08:48] <agutierr> okas
[08:48] <boink> ta
[08:48] <ranfart> Fujitsu: thanks
[08:48] <Fujitsu> boink: Maybe in some very rare cases, though.
[08:49] <Fujitsu> !restricted | markdarb
[08:49] <ubotu> markdarb: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:49] <boink> markdarb: trying to play a .mov file?
[08:49] <uwjames> hello.. newbie here.  running dapper and trying to install an alarm so I can wake up in the morning
[08:49] <MistaED> ranfart: at this stage, there will only be last minute bug fixes and maybe artwork tweaks
[08:49] <ArrenLex> !codecs > markdarb
[08:49] <boink> uwjames: xmms has an alarm plugin
[08:49] <uwjames> I have xmms installed
[08:49] <bmgz> HELP! has 6.10 EDGY EFT _final_ been released today yet?
[08:49] <johso> I don't suppose anyone would know how to configure Squid here, huh?
[08:49] <Fujitsu> MistaED: At this stage there will actually be nothing, but that's minor.
[08:49] <Fujitsu> bmgz: No.
[08:49] <Flannel> bmgz: no.
[08:49] <BHSPitLappy> markdarb, mplayer plays quicktime beautifully, and if you get the mplayer plugin for firefox, it integrates perfectly
[08:49] <elkbuntu> uwjames, many of the music programs have alarm plugins :)
[08:49] <boink> I use xmms as an alarm :)
[08:49] <boink> otherwise, man crontab with mplayer
[08:49] <Kameli> How i can get all performance from my CPU, my nice amd 64 processor has several flags but k7 cant use them all, so i lose bit about my processor? :(
[08:49] <soundmaster80> yeah, but xmms alarm isn't that friendly
[08:49] <markdarb> yes, a mov
[08:49] <elkbuntu> uwjames, search synaptic for 'alarm' i believe it shows most of them up
[08:50] <khaije1> bmgz: we are all waiting, it hasn't yet been released
[08:50] <boink> it's friendly to me
[08:50] <soundmaster80> lol
[08:50] <Fujitsu> markdarb: See what ubotu said up there a bit ^^
[08:50] <black_13> how do enable more detailed boot logging
[08:50] <bmgz> What timezone/time will it be released? anyone know?
[08:50] <soundmaster80> matter of opinion i'm sure :)
[08:50] <Fujitsu> !ef
[08:50] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[08:50] <boink> markdarb: mplayer should play .mov files just fine
[08:50] <lotusleaf> Did somebody say Edgy?
[08:50] <uwjames> I downloaded the xmms alarm plugin and got xmms-alarm. but I need to compile it
[08:50] <boink> there's an ubuntu .deb for the xmms-alarm
[08:50] <boink> no need to compile
[08:51] <uwjames> ooh that would be better
[08:51] <boink> uwjames: apt-cache search xmms
[08:51] <uwjames> so does all deb stuff run in ubuntu?
[08:51] <bmgz> The pope was wrong their is a puragatory - waiting to get Edgy ;-) (no offence)
[08:51] <nikdo> sorry, just testing...have a great night/day everyone
[08:51] <boink> it's an ubuntu .deb :)
[08:51] <markdarb> Thanks. That was next on my todo list (just downloading the multiverse info, which can take a while on dialup)
[08:51] <rawrness> @lart Canonical.ltd
[08:52] <lotusleaf> Front page of Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_6_10_Released
[08:52] <uwjames> ok Boink, I'll try that (crossing fingers)
[08:52] <boink> markdarb: they want to improve the codec situation for the next release, feisty
[08:52] <Agrajag> lotusleaf: download link still goes to 6.06
[08:52] <Mehrdad> Where can I download 6.10 DVD?
[08:52] <Fujitsu> !ef
[08:52] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[08:52] <boink> Mahrdad: www.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <Fujitsu> Mehrdad: It's not been released yet.
[08:52] <khaije1> does anyone know where i can find information comparing evms and lvm2?
[08:52] <lotusleaf> Agrajag: yeah I know =)
[08:52] <lotusleaf> Agrajag: But I love the hype
[08:52] <Mehrdad> the home page is changed
[08:52] <savvas> just be patient guys
[08:52] <boink> patience?
[08:52] <bmgz> their arent any links on the download page yet -still 6.06
[08:53] <Fujitsu> Mehrdad: It doesn't say it's been released.
[08:53] <Fujitsu> Mehrdad: It says it is released on the 26th.
[08:53] <savvas> it's better to release a working os, than a buggy one ;p
[08:53] <kraut> moin
[08:53] <markdarb> boink: That'll be good. It really is annoying with all the legal issues surrounding multimedia.
[08:53] <boink> they're working on it :)
[08:53] <Mehrdad> Fujitsu, "released" is past tense!
[08:53] <drspin> main page is updated but not the download pages
[08:53] <drspin> everybody seed the torrent
[08:53] <drspin> :)
[08:53] <uwjames> ok, so I see the xmms-alarm is listed.. what is the command to install it?
[08:53] <bmgz> I doubt they still bug-squashing in these dying moments
[08:53] <boink> I would say the video card drivers and the multimedia codecs are still the weak spots in ubuntu
[08:53] <uwjames> (thanks by the way)
[08:54] <Agrajag> uwjames: sudo apt-get install xmms-alarm
[08:54] <Fujitsu> Mehrdad: Can be future (`it will be released,' for example)
[08:54] <lotusleaf> drspin: I'll be getting the Edgy CD and DVD torrent and leaving it on a few days ;)
[08:54] <Kameli> !ef
[08:54] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[08:54] <boink> Fujitsu: how about "it will have been released" :)
[08:54] <mnepton> drspin: i will be setting up early torrent seeds. don't worry, when the release happens there won't be just one seed. :)
[08:54] <bmgz> they got to build iso's and update mirrors which will take another day if they still bug-fixing
[08:54] <Mehrdad> what's in ubuntu DVD? it kubuntu included?
[08:54] <drspin> boink: those are issues for linux itself -- mostly due to licensing and support from the OEM
[08:54] <lotusleaf> Mehrdad: check cdimages.ubuntu.com
[08:55] <azureal> lol... on "aptitude install gdm" :  "Need to get 14.6MB/15.6MB of archives. After unpacking 45.0MB will be used."
[08:55] <savvas> boink: those are-- what doc said :p
[08:55] <boink> FreeBSD doesn't have these problems, drspin
[08:55] <bmgz> ubotu: you better automate that message of yours ;-)
[08:55] <Fujitsu> !ubotu
[08:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:55] <Mehrdad> lotusleaf, I want to know if I download the DVD, should I download kubuntu too?
[08:55] <rwscold> 1) The Edgy repositories are *very* frozen, meaning unless the world collapses there will be no more changes to the Edgy repositories... In other words, if you want to upgrade, doing it now or when Edgy is officially released is no different.
[08:55] <rwscold> (2) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ One of these latest CD builds is going to be renamed into the final release... these ARE either the final releases or one package away from it ;-)
[08:55] <drspin> boink: different legalities and philosophies surrounding it
[08:56] <boink> you see, it's circumstances
[08:56] <lotusleaf> Mehrdad: you can download Ubuntu and install KDE (Kubuntu) from within Ubuntu.
[08:56] <mabreaux> has 6.10 been released yet?
[08:56] <osama> hi, anybody tried Edgy Eft Release (6.1)
[08:56] <Fujitsu> mabreaux: No.
[08:56] <osama> mabreaux, yes
[08:56] <savvas> no
[08:56] <osama> no?
[08:56] <wheatie> lol
[08:56] <Fujitsu> osama: It's 6.10, and it hasn't been released yet.
[08:56] <savvas> hm? :P
[08:56] <bimberi> rofl
[08:56] <osama> dig says yes ...
[08:56] <rawrness> ma
[08:56] <uwjames> great, it is installing xmms-alarm.  thanks fellas.  I still wonder what to do about the ./configure telling me I needed to install glib 1.2.6 or put it in my path (I had tried to build the package)
[08:56] <mabreaux> that was confusing
[08:56] <osama> digg
[08:56] <rwscold> it will be out in approximately 6 hours
[08:57] <drspin> downloads aren't available yet
[08:57] <rwscold> :P
[08:57] <lotusleaf> CRIKEY! I love you Edgy!
[08:57] <Fujitsu> osama: Are you serious?
[08:57] <drspin> so does the main ubuntu page
[08:57] <Mehrdad> lotus, I know, my question is: Is kubuntu-desktop package included on ubuntu DVD?
[08:57] <drspin> but downloads aren't available
[08:57] <sheepsheep> even ubuntu.com says it's released already..
[08:57] <barnetod> ill tell you in two minutes if mine is the real or rc
[08:57] <Flannel> osama: Digg is nothing but gossip, come on.
[08:57] <osama> sorry ... just read the comments... .no
[08:57] <uwjames> I believe I have a 2.x version of glib
[08:57] <lotusleaf> Mehrdad: ah, I see, you know I don't know.. There should be a package list somewhere
[08:57] <boink> Mehrdad: you need the Kubuntu-DVD set for kde
[08:57] <azureal> some people say it's supposed to come out today, but Flannel says no, so no. =P
[08:57] <lotusleaf> azureal: never underestimate the power of the Edgy
[08:57] <boink> Kubuntu = Ubuntu with KDE
[08:58] <azureal> wait for the official seal of edgy approval..
[08:58] <Flannel> azureal: it will come out today, we still have... 27 hours of today though.
[08:58] <azureal> 27 hours!??!
[08:58] <drspin> LOl
[08:58] <FeistyFawn> Flannel: but only a few until release :)
[08:58] <lotusleaf> azureal: Edgy love you!
[08:58] <justthisguy> timzones
[08:58] <osama> http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ ???
[08:58] <sheepsheep> when 6.10 will comeout, how do I upgrade to it from 6.06 ?
[08:58] <rawrness> :P
[08:58] <azureal> !time
[08:58] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[08:58] <mabreaux> just out of curiosity, what happens to all the beta installs..  when it comes out?
[08:58] <FeistyFawn> !upgrade | sheepsheep
[08:58] <ubotu> sheepsheep: Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:58] <drspin> I'm doing a full reinstall :)
[08:58] <lotusleaf> boink: sloppy seconds
[08:58] <rawrness> i have exatcly 24 hours till today is over
[08:58] <azureal> Flannel, idk where you're getting 27, lol... i only have 23 hrs  =(
[08:59] <Flannel> mabreaux: they'll update like normal package updates to the final
[08:59] <azureal> er.. i meant 21 hrs =/
[08:59] <Krapule95> salut bande de tachon !!!!
[08:59] <mabreaux> okay, I have a friend running the beta and was just wondering
[08:59] <uwjames> by the way, how much and in what ways is edgy better than dapper?  my dapper install has given me networking fits.. I finally got it working tonight
[08:59] <justthisguy> azureal: because there are different timezones around the world, 26th of october hasnt even _started_ in some places
[08:59] <markdarb> Try five hours (I think)
[08:59] <boink> uwjames: good question
[08:59] <azureal> rawrness, perfers? is that along the lines of 'fingers'?
[09:00] <lotusleaf> I am what I am and that's all that I am, I'm Edgy the lizard man !
[09:00] <boink> dapper is at least a "LTS" release
[09:00] <azureal> justthisguy, it will.
[09:00] <Flannel> uwjames, boink, here's a partial rundown: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta
[09:00] <boink> ta Flannel
[09:01] <uwjames> thanks flannel
[09:01] <osama> azureal, I know/....
[09:01] <lotusleaf> It's midnight! crow like a rooster! it's edgy day! OO OO OO OO OOOOOO!
[09:01] <KenSentMe> lotusleaf: here it's 9 am
[09:01] <kupesoft> When the friggen release do?
[09:02] <lotusleaf> KenSentMe: crow like a rooster anyway! it's edgy day!
[09:02] <Flannel> !ef
[09:02] <Fujitsu> !ef | kupesoft
[09:02] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[09:02] <ubotu> kupesoft: Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[09:02] <kupesoft> When's the friggen release due?
[09:02] <KenSentMe> lotusleaf: that's right. i did this morning
[09:02] <radar1976> can anyone help me understand tr ?
[09:02] <osama> ubotu, South Africa? =GMT??
[09:02] <BHSPitLappy> osama, his artificial intelligence isn't perfect yet
[09:02] <BHSPitLappy> in fact, it's nonexistent.
[09:03] <elkbuntu> Attention please everyone: Edgy Eft has **NOT** been released yet. Could offtopic discussion please go to #ubuntu-offtopic. Thankyou
[09:03] <savvas> osama: gmt+1
[09:03] <osama> BHSPitLappy, :)
[09:03] <BHSPitLappy> elkbuntu, that did it, you took care of that unruly mob :)
[09:03] <boink> elkbuntu: but the hype is fun!
[09:03] <ianmacgregor> It does my heart good to see the auto-install and auto-remove switches added to apt :)
[09:03] <osama> savvas, so now it's 8:00 (GMT+1)
[09:03] <savvas> sorry, UTC +2 :p
[09:03] <elkbuntu> boink, not for people who are trying to get genuine help
[09:03] <ianmacgregor> I guess my bug reports were seen :)
[09:03] <boink> thus, it's now 0700 UTC
[09:04] <osama> savvas, so now it's 9:00 (UTC+2)
[09:04] <savvas> well yes
[09:04] <ianmacgregor> It is now October 26, 2006 in Seattle, Washington
[09:04] <uwjames> hmm.. new login screen, background, round corners.. seriously though, looks nice, but wondering if networking is better.. from all I read DHCP is a crapshoot in dapper (I couldn't get it to work)
[09:04] <osama> http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/  has the iso .... (6.10 without RC)
[09:04] <boink> uwjames: the dhcp client is fine in dapper
[09:04] <mnepton> osama: that is not an official final release
[09:04] <upt1me> http://mirror3.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/releases/.pool/   <--- Fast
[09:05] <osama> oh...
[09:05] <Fujitsu> upt1me: That isn't the final release, as mnepton said. WE've been telling you this for some time.
[09:05] <mnepton> please do NOT advertise .pool as being final. it IS NOT FINAL.
[09:05] <elkbuntu> Attention: Edgy Eft has **NOT** been released yet.
[09:05] <uwjames> I'm sure I could get it to work if I knew more.. but in the forums the recomended fix is to go with static
[09:05] <rwscold> has feisty the ferret been released yet?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:05] <boink> heh
[09:05] <rwscold> OHHHH
[09:06] <lotusleaf> http two little dots forward slash slash I want me edgy gimmie me edgy dot woo!
[09:06] <savvas> it even says it in the pool: release candidate hehe
[09:06] <boink> anyone have any ubuntu help questions? fire away..
[09:06] <sonics> how do I upgrade using apt commands a specified version?
[09:07] <boink> !upgrade
[09:07] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:07] <uwjames> how can I tell if I have glib 1.2.6 (or better) and if I do, how can I get my ./configure to find it?
[09:08] <rwscold> has feisty the ferret been released yet?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE OH PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[09:08] <JoseStefan> FeistyFawn
[09:08] <boink> feisty fawn won't be released until 26 April
[09:08] <sonics> boink: thanx but I mean e.g. upgrading ysm to its newest version?
[09:08] <rwscold> i know
[09:08] <Fujitsu> -ERR boink
[09:08] <rwscold> i am just messing
[09:08] <Fujitsu> 19 April.
[09:08] <barnetod> rws i think it is the official release
[09:08] <uwjames> 1 April actually
[09:08] <ianmacgregor> I remember that when Dapper was first released, there was a bug that kept the admin user password in plain text in a file on the hard drive. So, I wouldn't assume the final release of Edgy will be without severe problems. Might be best to wait a week or two.
[09:09] <boink> ian: good advice
[09:09] <boink> and dapper just works fine :)
[09:09] <ianmacgregor> boink: Exactly :)
[09:09] <rwscold> thats good advice for any update or anything from microsoft or linux for that matter
[09:09] <bimberi> ianmacgregor: that was Breezy actually
[09:09] <Neil3> dapper doesnt like my wifi card, edgy likes it, the first distro i've tried that actually works out of the box with it!
[09:09] <barnetod> lol so i wasting 700 megs of hard drive space now
[09:09] <barnetod> hahaha
[09:09] <lotusleaf> dapper dances with edgy and they laugh and giggle while the people swivel their heads like the animals on a carousel towards their nearest mirror
[09:09] <Boll> rwscold: only with Windows it's more like a year or so before the first service pack.
[09:09] <boink> and those poor servers ... just think how much they'll get pounded
[09:10] <FeistyFawn> a lot
[09:10] <ianmacgregor> bimberi: It was? I have been using Ubuntu for longer than I thought :)
[09:10] <rwscold> :)
[09:10] <sonics> can anyone tell me how I can update ysm to its newest version?
[09:10] <barnetod> burning it now
[09:10] <FeistyFawn> it costs mark a few hundred thousand pounds to pay for the bandwidth during release
[09:10] <rwscold> barnetod
[09:10] <bimberi> :)
[09:10] <sonics> seems like im unable to find out ;D
[09:10] <rwscold> look in the chan
[09:10] <Boll> sonics: apt-get update;apt-get install ysm
[09:10] <sonics> tnx
[09:10] <osama> FeistyFawn, wow
[09:11] <phire_NZ> I disapeared for a hour there, has it been released?
[09:11] <rwscold> mo
[09:11] <FeistyFawn> no
[09:11] <rwscold> no
[09:11] <uwjames> anyone see my glib 1.2.6 question by the way?  or did I miss the answer?
[09:11] <osama> shouldn't a newer version of apt use bittorrent ?
[09:11] <FeistyFawn> otherwise it would be in the topic
[09:11] <exhale> FeistyFawn, i better torrent it then :)
[09:11] <osama> would be nice...
[09:11] <Chousuke> So, hm.
[09:11] <elkbuntu> Could offtopic discussion please go to #ubuntu-offtopic. Thankyou :)
[09:12] <mnepton> osama: no way to ensure security
[09:12] <Boll> Someone should update /topic
[09:12] <Chousuke> How many people do you think will come on this channel and yell "EDGY RELEASED!" after the release?
[09:12] <Fujitsu> mnepton: There is, actually, as long as Packages is posted somewhere central...
[09:12] <FeistyFawn> Chousuke: too many
[09:12] <osama> mnepton, hashes?
[09:12] <barnetod> chou EDGY RELEASED!
[09:12] <Fujitsu> Chousuke: infinite numbers, probably... After what's happened before it releases...
[09:12] <Chousuke> :P
[09:12] <tzadikim> so, please excuse my ineptitude...im trying to install ubuntu on top of my windows xp and set up a dual boot...i've gotten the disc to load correctly, and it brings up the options menu, i select install ubuntu and it starts to get going, then flashes something about benig unable to something to device 3 (sorry, it flashes fast), the installation screen comes up and says it's loading...
[09:12] <tzadikim> ...essential drivers and mounting root file systems, my cdrom goes nuts for a minute, then my computer becomes unresponsive and nothing happens for like ten minutes...am i just not waiting long enough?
[09:12] <barnetod> im the channel guinea pig
[09:12] <barnetod> i downloaded the october 25th upload
[09:13] <barnetod> so we will see
[09:13] <FeistyFawn> LOL
[09:13] <barnetod> hope i can remember my router password lol
[09:13] <Fujitsu> What did you change, apokryphos?
[09:13] <osama> imagine this in your sources.list "deb torrent://tracker.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main"  :)
[09:13] <apokryphos> Fujitsu: near the beginning =)
[09:14] <Fujitsu> That second bit?
[09:14] <Lathiat> tzadikim: i doubt it
[09:14] <exhale> how does one see the amount of ram left?
[09:14] <Lathiat> tzadikim: soudns like some kind if incompatability
[09:14] <osama> free
[09:14] <tzadikim> drat
[09:14] <tzadikim> ok
[09:14] <osama> exhale, free
[09:14] <exhale> osama, ?
[09:14] <ianmacgregor> Question: Once Edgy is finally released, this channel will become the support channel for Edgy, correct? If so, where do those of us still runing Dapper go for support?
[09:14] <cheesy> EDGY DAY ?
[09:14] <exhale> ah thanks
[09:15] <Fujitsu> ianmacgregor: You'll stay here.
[09:15] <Flannel> ianmacgregor: here still.
[09:15] <ianmacgregor> Ahh, cool :)
[09:15] <Fujitsu> ianmacgregor: It's the support channel for all current Ubuntu releases.
[09:15] <Flannel> ianmacgregor: all ubuntu versions except Warty (and Hoary, once edgy is released, I suppose) are supported here
[09:15] <ianmacgregor> Fujitsu: Ahh, good to know
[09:15] <warpforge> maybe #ubuntu-lts
[09:15] <Fujitsu> #ubuntu-reallyreallyold?
[09:15] <mnepton>  #ubuntique
[09:16] <Fujitsu> Haha, yes.
[09:16] <warpforge> #ubuntold
[09:16] <FeistyFawn> Flannel: hoary will be supported for 2 more days
[09:16] <ianmacgregor> Well, I don't actually come here for support anymore, I stay here to answer questions from others. So, I suppose I should install Edgy final in order to keep up to date on my support advice.
[09:16] <mnepton> i love you, jIRCii. that is all.
[09:16] <FeistyFawn> ianmacgregor: that would be useful :)
[09:17] <graymer> when is due, edgy?
[09:17] <Flannel> !ef
[09:17] <Fujitsu> !ef
[09:17] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[09:17] <mnepton> graymer: "When It's Ready"(tm)
[09:17] <phire_NZ> whenevea
[09:17] <phire_NZ> *wheneva
[09:17] <graymer> :)
[09:17] <barnetod> it may be available now
[09:17] <rwscold> look lets just assume that the latest releas is most likely going to be basically the final
[09:17] <Fujitsu> barnetod: No.
[09:17] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: still logging? It will get interesting =)
[09:17] <DBO> graymer, the ubuntu.com page says today... soooooo
[09:17] <barnetod> if what i downloaded is it
[09:17] <graymer> got my answer from ubotu
[09:17] <rwscold> thats very probable
[09:17] <cheesy> graymer -r
[09:17] <Fujitsu> rwscold: But it's not official.
[09:17] <mnepton> rwscold: not a safe assumption
[09:18] <FeistyFawn> rwscold: if they find a showstopper in the final hour, it will not be final
[09:18] <rwscold> whats safe who cares install it
[09:18] <osama> Oct 26, 23:59:59.9999 ( GMT-12 )
[09:18] <rwscold> if its not the final one then just update from withing
[09:18] <barnetod> hell no worse than a new service pack from ms
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Yep, still here.
[09:18] <apokryphos> cool
[09:18] <tzadikim> so where should i go to read about compatibility issues?
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: (see tonyyserver)
[09:18] <barnetod> launching now
[09:18] <mnepton> rwscold: how do you know we didn't remove the first blocks from those .pool images to make them unbootable? you don't. so wait for release.
[09:18] <rwscold> GO BARNETOD
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Results are updated every 15 minutes (http://www.tonyyarusso.is-a-geek.com/)
[09:19] <ianmacgregor> mnepton: hehe
[09:19] <osama> This version of Ubuntu Edgy Eft may be pirated, please call Ubuntu to buy a License.
[09:19] <graymer> :))
[09:19] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: cool. But, wrong link? No data there
[09:19] <osama> UGA: Ubuntu Genuine Advantage
[09:19] <FeistyFawn> @lart  osama
[09:19] <rwscold> I am not calling south africa thanks lol
[09:20] <FeistyFawn> @lart  osama
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Click a channel name
[09:20] <apokryphos> whoops, sorry, I didn't notice the parenthesis breaking the url
[09:20] <mnepton> UNGAWA! :: Ubuntu Next Generation Authetication Windows-esque Abomination
[09:20] <elkbuntu> !offtopic
[09:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:20] <totall_6_7> rwscold: i would lol just to say i did ;)
[09:20] <rwscold> haha
[09:21] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: very nice
[09:21] <apokryphos> pretty too 8)
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> :)
[09:21] <feet> hello. how i change the font size for GTK 1.2 apps? thanks in advance
[09:21] <rwscold> you are welcome
[09:22] <ianmacgregor> Has gnucash been ported to GTK2 yet?
[09:22] <Fujitsu> Wha? I'm at number 3 here... Yay.
[09:22] <xipietotec> Anyone know why I'm getting this error? update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-386
[09:22] <xipietotec> [: 89: name: unexpected operator
[09:22] <xipietotec> basename: extra operand `of'
[09:22] <xipietotec> Try `basename --help' for more information.
[09:22] <rwscold> wow i should be asleep
[09:22] <rwscold> this is nuts
[09:22] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: thing is, in the hourly statistics no number is given though, eh?
[09:23] <crimsun> xipietotec: ls -l /bin/sh
[09:23] <apokryphos> i.e. so you can see, 8:30 - 945 people, then 8:45 ....
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Yeah, sadly.  Not sure if I can do that or not.
[09:23] <rwscold> Mardarb!
[09:23] <apokryphos> dang
[09:23] <rwscold> Markdarb!
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: If Seveas didn't have to work today he would have gotten that set up.
[09:23] <xipietotec> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2006-10-23 10:39 /bin/sh -> dash
[09:24] <xipietotec> is the return I get
[09:24] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: I'd give a whack at it but I'm just leaving for a lecture =)
[09:24] <phire_NZ> with the time zones in new zealand I really should stop showing up for releases on time, and instead come a day late
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: I can probably parse it after the fact though still.
[09:24] <mnepton> xipietotec: is this on an Edgy Knot or RC?
[09:25] <elkbuntu> phire_NZ, you could wait with your fellow countrymen in #ubuntu-nz :)
[09:25] <xipietotec> mnepton: It's the latest RC
[09:25] <MonsieurBon> hello
[09:25] <ianmacgregor> hi
[09:25] <MonsieurBon> does anybody know, when FF2 gets into the backports?
[09:25] <osama> hi
[09:26] <mnepton> xipietotec: seems like a non-strict-sh command problem. file a bug against the package and its configure in LP?
[09:26] <rwscold> now thats a good question
[09:26] <ianmacgregor> MonsieurBon: It won't be in the repos for Dapper AFAIK
[09:26] <rwscold> first good one in a while
[09:26] <mnepton> xipietotec: the configure script probably uses bash-esque syntax somewhere.
[09:26] <xipietotec> I've never filed a bug before, how do I do that
[09:26] <tx> i am using vipul's razor to filter spam , one question tho , why does razor create a ".razor" dir in each user's homedir ? i was interested in havin a global homedir , for logs and conf. files, please help
[09:27] <savvas>  if i select to donate yearly to freenode, am i obliged to pay for
[09:27] <savvas> ..the following years too?
[09:27] <MonsieurBon> ianmacgregor: wow, I just saw, has Edgy been released today????
[09:27] <BHSPitLappy> s/obliged/obligated/
[09:27] <ianmacgregor> MonsieurBon: Not yet
[09:27] <MasseR> MonsieurBon: Yes
[09:28] <BHSPitLappy> and that's hardly a ubuntu-relevant question
[09:28] <savvas> thank you ;p
[09:28] <osama> MonsieurBon, maybe :)
[09:28] <MasseR> Or is going to be released
[09:28] <MonsieurBon> ianmacgregor, MasseR: now what? :D
[09:28] <BHSPitLappy> savvas, ask in ##freenode
[09:28] <MasseR> MonsieurBon: "now what?"?
[09:28] <mnepton> MonsieurBon: the plan is to release it today. but it has not been released yet.
[09:28] <elkbuntu> Attention please everyone: Edgy Eft has **NOT** been released yet. Could offtopic discussion please go to #ubuntu-offtopic. Thankyou
[09:28] <MasseR> What's the next buntu?
[09:28] <MasseR> Fiesty
[09:28] <MasseR> Feisty
[09:28] <savvas> double channel sign? ok
[09:28] <MasseR> Orsomething
[09:29] <MonsieurBon> mnepton: ah, that clarifies. what is more likely? will it, or will it not be released?
[09:29] <DBO> MonsieurBon, more likely it will be released, please stop asking =)
[09:29] <MonsieurBon> DBO: thanks. I just got really excited! :D
[09:29] <MonsieurBon> cu
[09:29] <elkbuntu> MonsieurBon, we all are :)
[09:30] <cheesy> how bout asking if Edgy is released today?
[09:30] <chewy> hi
[09:30] <chewy> i got a question, how do i change what channels are recorded by alsa
[09:31] <chewy> when i talk on skype people can hear themselvs talk
[09:31] <tzadikim> how do i tell whether or not i have a 64 bit processor? maybe i picked the wrong distro...i really want to get this to work on my computer
[09:31] <cheesy> :)
[09:31] <DBO> chewy, it has to do with the PCM sliders
[09:31] <DBO> chewy, play with them a bit
[09:31] <osama> tzadikim, you most probably have a 32bit CPU
[09:31] <phire> cat /proc/cpu-info
[09:32] <chewy> what does PCM stand for
[09:32] <osama> Pulse Code Modulation
[09:32] <cheesy> or Personal Computer Machine ?
[09:32] <chewy> ok let me ask this, if i want 0% of what comes out of my speackers sent to be recorded, what should PCM be at
[09:33] <tzadikim> i've got an amd athlon 64 x2 dual core processor, is that not the cpu?
[09:33] <osama> tzadikim,  64bit
[09:33] <Smotang> what are the developer libraries for sourcecode compiling?
[09:33] <chewy> don't get the 64 bit ubuntu it is incompatible with lots of things
[09:33] <chewy> and you don't get much performance from it
[09:33] <DBO> chewy, usually there are several PCM sliders, one of them needs to go to 0
[09:33] <chewy> rather, i should say lots of things are not compatible with it
[09:33] <DBO> chewy, it might be disabled
[09:33] <osama> 64bit is still not very interesting to me ,,, maybe in a few years////
[09:34] <Hikaru79> Smotang, depends on the package, but a good place to start is build-esential
[09:34] <tzadikim> so can i run the 32 bit on my 64 bit cpu?
[09:34] <chewy> yup
[09:34] <Hikaru79> *build-essential
[09:34] <tzadikim> ok, i'll try downloading that...thanks guys, i appreciate it
[09:34] <gebruiker> Could someone help me setup my Wireles network card? I have an WGPI03
[09:34] <Smotang> hikaru79 how would i get the build essential libraries using apt-get?
[09:35] <Zajjko|work> i686 actually left me with lower performance than i386 : (
[09:35] <Hikaru79> Smotang, just type: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:35] <Hikaru79> Its a meta-package that will pull in everything you need :)
[09:35] <Smotang> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:35] <Smotang> thannks
[09:36] <Hikaru79> No problem :)
[09:36] <Zajjko|work> Anyone familiar with the native VNC in ubuntu?
[09:36] <Zajjko|work> I'm experiencing some issues in performance while using VNC from my work computer to remote my home-comp
[09:37] <Zajjko|work> a lot of lag and left over bits and pieces of my desktop in areas that aren't updated. If I change workspace for example
[09:38] <a1113> Zajjko|work, are you using any firewall/bandwidth limiter ?
[09:38] <migue> buenos dias
[09:39] <Zajjko|work> a1113: nope. Sorry, I might have been a bit fuzzy. It isn't lag, per say, it's more left over artefacts that linger on my screen.
[09:39] <a1113> k
[09:39] <zlack> hey guys - when i try to start xgl with edgy it crashes and i see this error in my Xorg.0.log: AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed - any idea what to do ?
[09:39] <zlack> i'm running edgy
[09:39] <Flannel> zlack: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[09:39] <ianmacgregor> zlack: /join #ubuntu+1
[09:39] <a1113> Zajjko|work,  try using tsclient (if it is not already the case) and see if it is different from the embeeded client
[09:39] <Terminus> zlack: the people in #ubuntu+1 might be better equipped to help you.
[09:40] <SaLsIcHa> zlack, final or RC? o.o
[09:40] <zlack> ok thanks
[09:40] <kihai> Ahem, just a short question: How do I get rid of nfs-mounted folders showing up on all the ltsp clients' desktops although the folder is rwx------ and owns to root. Sth to do with nautilus settings? And how do I change this?
[09:40] <Flannel> SaLsIcHa: final doesn't exist yet
[09:40] <Zajjko|work> a1113: the client I'm using atm is RealVNC from a Windows Enviroment
[09:40] <ice_1963> is edgy out yet?
[09:40] <kihai> ...belongs to root...
[09:40] <Zajjko|work> is tsclient a VNC-serverapp?
[09:41] <osama> ice_1963, read the channel topic
[09:41] <SaLsIcHa> Flannel, hum o.o
[09:41] <ice_1963> or releasted
[09:41] <a1113> Zajjko, (no tsclient is a terminal server clietn that also support VNC, RDP, ...) be sure to use version 5 and try lower the resolution, disabeling the background or other stuff that can lower the graphic related trafic
[09:42] <ice_1963> osama, okay i see it :)
[09:42] <Zajjko|work> a1113: version 5 of tsclient? or version 5 of the VNC-protocol? checking the graphics now
[09:43] <a1113> Zajjko|work, VNC
[09:43] <ice_1963> osama, that's okay i run ETCH
[09:43] <jme> any idea how to get color working on the terminal again?
[09:43] <thelsdj> really wish there was a RDP server for linux, it seems to be a superior protocol (atleast graphics seem way better over slow links)
[09:43] <jme> it's enabled on gnome-terminal
[09:44] <a1113> Zajjko|work, i don't now maybe this can help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=452707
[09:45] <Zajjko|work> a1113: I'll have a looksee. I think I'll have to go for tsclient right away, I don't have any options for disabling diff. GFX in the native client ; D
[09:45] <kosnick> i need to set some app as default . Is there any way to do that? (example : to open pdfs with kpdf instead of document reader as default)
[09:45] <chou> oops
[09:45] <RancidLM> is there a way to transfer windows betweek xdmcp sessios?
[09:45] <a1113> Zajjko|work, good luck, I am quite sure you can get this working
[09:46] <barnetod> im back :)
[09:46] <barnetod> that release is the full 6.10
[09:46] <a1113> kosnick, you can edit /etc/mimetype for this
[09:46] <chewy> coo thx i got my skype working bad ass
[09:46] <Zajjko|work> a1113: well, since VNC works like a charm from one Windows env. to another, I'm quite sure it should work between Windows Linux aswell
[09:46] <kosnick> a1113 : ok thx i'll check on that
[09:46] <osama> barnetod, ???
[09:46] <barnetod> yes?
[09:47] <gebruiker> I installed the rt61 drivers however
[09:47] <gebruiker> Iget ra0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[09:47] <osama> what release?
[09:47] <barnetod> the one posted on the uk mirror
[09:47] <Zajjko|work> a1113: thanks for the help so far, if I should get the same issue in tsclient, I'll cry abit instead of asking again ; D
[09:47] <Smotang> whats the command to run a binary file from terminal as root?
[09:47] <a1113> Zajjko|work, you are welcome
[09:47] <a1113> :)
[09:47] <Fujitsu> RancidLM: I think there's a tool named xmove, but I'm not quite sure about it...
[09:47] <ubuntuowns> has anyone got the full 6.10 atm
[09:47] <dholbach> GOOD MORNING
[09:47] <Fujitsu> barnetod: How do you know?
[09:47] <Fujitsu> Hey dholbach.
[09:47] <barnetod> just ran the livecd and all that and no where on that puppy in every menu i decided and readme was release candidate
[09:47] <Fujitsu> dholbach: Welcome to chaoos.
[09:48] <Fujitsu> *cahos
[09:48] <Fujitsu> barnetod: Your point?
[09:48] <Smotang> whats the command to run a binary file from terminal as root? anyone know?
[09:48] <dholbach> heya Fujitsu
[09:48] <barnetod> well fuji im wrong you win
[09:48] <barnetod> lol
[09:48] <barnetod> just saying
[09:48] <a1113> Smotang, sudo
[09:48] <barnetod> i downloaded it decided to be guinea pig
[09:48] <savvas> what's the deb mirror for opera 9? deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main ?
[09:48] <barnetod> i may be wrong
[09:48] <Zajjko|work> a1113: best way to temporarily upload a screenshot? Imageshack? Just thought I'd let you have a look at what my client presents presently
[09:48] <RancidLM> Fujitsu: thnx ill take a look at it
[09:48] <barnetod> but was nice enough to share what i saw
[09:48] <Genix|linux> anyone play planeshift?
[09:48] <gebruiker> osama, to me?
[09:49] <Fujitsu> savvas: I believe so, yes.
[09:49] <osama> gebruiker, no :)
[09:49] <Bart> hi
[09:49] <brosen> Hello
[09:49] <Fujitsu> Hi Bart.
[09:49] <a1113> Zajjko|work, yes why not
[09:49] <Zajjko|work> a1113: http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6791/vncissueya9.jpg
[09:49] <Bart> does sbd know why edgy isn't released ?
[09:50] <Fujitsu> !ef
[09:50] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[09:50] <Bart> Ok, thx :)
[09:50] <kofwang> when the firefox2.0 for ubuntu release?
[09:50] <osama> it may even be released next week or even next month ....
[09:50] <Lard-O-Lad> what is the difference between the Edgy RC and Edgy?
[09:50] <Genix|linux> !planeshift
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about planeshift - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <Bart> Arglh... 3 months i wait this day... and edgy isn't released yet :(
[09:51] <kofwang> oh....thanx......i am worry about it
[09:51] <Fujitsu> osama: Or not.
[09:51] <cheesy> Bart: #ubuntu-edgy
[09:51] <a1113> Zajjko|work, do you have transparency enabled on the windows host ? are you connecting to the correct display (:0)
[09:52] <Fujitsu> kofwang: It's been in Edgy for some weeks now, although the final only for about 2 days.
[09:52] <shadok> isn't it contradictory to display a banner with Ubuntu 6.10 Released altough it is not ?
[09:52] <shadok> (on ubuntu.com)
[09:52] <xipietotec> shadok: It's released later today
[09:52] <Fujitsu> shadok: There was some miscommunication between the release and website teams.
[09:53] <Zajjko|work> a1113: No transparency, dunno about the display though. Don't think I have an option which display to announce/connect to
[09:53] <a1113> Personally I preferred being in advance, I passed to Edgy since 3 weeks now and I can say that it really rocks :)
[09:53] <shadok> I know that but released means "already"  xipietotec
[09:53] <shadok> Fujitsu: ah ok, thx :)
[09:53] <Jasey> hello. how i change the font size for GTK 1.2 apps? thanks in advance :)
[09:53] <kofwang> i think "released" is a promotion
[09:53] <xipietotec> Eh...I doubt it will actually bother too many people
[09:53] <Latino> hi, does ubuntu have ff 2.0 in the repos?
[09:53] <Zajjko|work> Latino: nope
[09:54] <kofwang> not yet..i find it too
[09:54] <Fujitsu> Latino: Edgy does, yes.
[09:54] <Fujitsu> (which will be released in the coming hours)
[09:54] <Latino> really? hmm
[09:54] <Fujitsu> Latino, yes.
[09:54] <Zajjko|work> Fujitsu: haha you saw that followup coming, didn't you? ; P
[09:54] <duckie> /1
[09:54] <Fujitsu> Zajjko|work: pretty much.
[09:54] <shadok> xipietotec: not too many but some should be too much imho,it would have been simpler to update the homepage after the download page
[09:54] <Latino> LD?
[09:54] <adhoc_> Fujitsu: do we have a release time yet?
[09:54] <Autonomy> latino: 2.0 (Bon Echo) Is beta. Probably Now
[09:55] <Fujitsu> !ef
[09:55] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[09:55] <Fujitsu> Autonomy: No. It was released yesterday.
[09:55] <Autonomy> Probably Not, sorry
[09:55] <rwscold> i said it earlier whats out right now is most likely very close to the final release if not the final release
[09:55] <Autonomy> Wow.. really! :s What a fool! :)
[09:55] <chou> so how do we upgrade to edgy (when it comes out)?  update of sources.list necessary?
[09:55] <Fujitsu> rwscold: But it is NOT OFFICIAL.
[09:55] <Autonomy> I'm slow, apparently!
[09:55] <Fujitsu> rwscold: Can you please stop promoting that?
[09:55] <rwscold> yes but u cant update/upgrade from within the install regardless
[09:55] <Fujitsu> chou: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades, once it's released.
[09:55] <dholbach> chou        gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[09:56] <a1113> Zajjko|work, I don't now many problems can occure between VNC based client/server espacially when not on the same plateforme. Did you try another protocol like RDP (using windows remote desktop client)
[09:56] <InvisiblePinkUni> are we there yet... are we there yet... are we there yet.... :p
[09:56] <kosnick> a1113 : what do i need to do with mime.types so i can open a pdf with a specific app?
[09:56] <chou> thanks
[09:56] <mnepton> InvisiblePinkUni: stop asking or i'm turning this buildd around and we're all going back to Windows For Workgroups.
[09:56] <ianmacgregor> kosnick: Right-click on the pdf file, choose "Open with Other Application"
[09:57] <Zajjko|work> a1113: I tried using krfb as server and connecting with windows RDP - No dice I'm afraid. Couldn't even connect as it seems
[09:57] <ianmacgregor> mnepton: Nooooo!
[09:57] <kosnick> ianmacgregor : i need to do it as default
[09:57] <kosnick> not with right click
[09:57] <a1113> kosnick, in /etc/mime.types you define a type that correspond to an extension
[09:57] <InvisiblePinkUni> mnepton: me looking for ponies... lots were presented during dapper's release :)
[09:57] <HiveChild> Zajjko|work, try using TightVNC Client
[09:58] <Magilla> Having problems installing Firefox 2. The only howtos I can find involve betas/RCs and an installation script that doesn't appear to be in the archive I downloaded
[09:58] <kosnick> a1113 : a type , not an app , right?
[09:58] <InvisiblePinkUni> mnepton: just curious... what is windows for workgroups? is it windows 2000?
[09:58] <a1113> kosnick, right
[09:58] <Fujitsu> InvisiblePinkUni: Windows 3.11 (released in '93 or so)
[09:58] <elkbuntu> InvisiblePinkUni, 3.11 :)
[09:58] <kikke> windows 3.11
[09:58] <kikke> :))
[09:58] <InvisiblePinkUni> oooooo
[09:58] <Magilla> The firefox site says "see the release notes", but the release notes say nothing
[09:58] <a1113> kosnick, then you can use this type to associate it to the app you want
[09:58] <kosnick> a1113 : is there any way to define a specific app for a specific extension?
[09:58] <Fujitsu> Magilla: Not Ubuntu's problem,.
[09:58] <Zajjko|work> HiveChild: tried TightVNC, the same issue, so I think my problem is the server on my home-comp
[09:58] <rwscold> windows 3.11 was great
[09:58] <elkbuntu> commonly considered that companies last stable release, but that's a discussion for another channel ;)
[09:59] <HiveChild> Zajjko|work, k :(
[09:59] <LedStyle> Do someone here run Softimage XSI on Ubuntu???
[09:59] <Latino> hehe, so was DOS 5.0
[09:59] <Magilla> Fujitsu: I'm aware of that, but I was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction...
[09:59] <Zajjko|work> HiveChild: I mean thanks anyway, if my response seemed a bit harsh : )
[09:59] <kosnick> a1113 : i didn;t get the point ...
[09:59] <Artemis3> oh hi used these :p
[10:00] <osama> Lathiat,  so was OS/2 Warp 4.0
[10:00] <elkbuntu> **Attention**  Could offtopic discussion (discussion that isnt about ubuntu) please go to #ubuntu-offtopic ... Thankyou :)
[10:00] <Artemis3> tehehehe
[10:00] <HiveChild> Zajjko|work, hehe dont worry I did not take it as being hash ;)
[10:00] <Artemis3> lets go there
[10:00] <a1113> kosnick, I am looking (I remember I did this one day)
[10:00] <kosnick> a1113 : ok
[10:00] <rwscold> why name the channel @ubuntu-offtopic if its not supposed to be about ubuntu cause things that are aabout ubuntu are in here?
[10:00] <CorpseFeeder> hi. Who here wants (can?) help me to get a DC10+ zoran chip capture card to work under ubuntu?
[10:01] <jme> any idea how to get color working on the terminal again?
[10:01] <cheesy> jme: using a color screen?
[10:01] <ehird> just thought i'd let you guys know: the home page says "Ubuntu 6.10, released today" but the download page is still for 6.06
[10:01] <osama> rwscold, we're all waiting :)
[10:01] <azureal> any idea how i'd see my $VIMRUNTIME environment variable?
[10:01] <elkbuntu> ehird, we're aware
[10:01] <timhaughton> When will dist-upgrade start working? Anyone know?
[10:02] <HiveChild> Zajjko|work, are you using compression on the VNC connection ?
[10:02] <rwscold> hahaha
[10:02] <brosnan> Magilla: what was the error?
[10:02] <rwscold> osama what are we wating for
[10:02] <rwscold> ?
[10:02] <rwscold> lol
[10:02] <jme> cheesy: yes :p
[10:02] <jme> and it's enabled in gnome-terminal
[10:02] <Magilla> brosnan: no error yet. Entirely unsure how to procede
[10:03] <Zajjko|work> HiveChild: you mean encoding?
[10:03] <Magilla> Firefox/Mozilla FAQ: Installation - "See Release Notes"
[10:03] <duckie> hey all, student here just started my BSc Comp. Sci. question is.... what do you think is the best IDE for java running in Ubuntu.
[10:03] <Zajjko|work> HiveChild: atm I'm using ZRLE, which is the default option. And to tell you the truth, I don't know shit about the formats and encoding ; D
[10:03] <rt2570> moo!
[10:03] <Fujitsu> duckie: Eclipse.
[10:03] <brosnan> Magilla: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:03] <CorpseFeeder> apparently ffmpeg, v4l, xawtv, lavrec and vlc can all use my capture card, but I cannot get any of them to work. the furtherest I've got is a blue screen in xawtv. Can anyone help?
[10:03] <kosnick> a1113 : i think i got it . you need to change the properties of one pdf file (the "open with" property) and then all pdf will just open with the preferred app
[10:04] <Magilla> Release Notes - Installation: Please note that installing Firefox 2 will overwrite your existing installation of Firefox. You won't lose any of your bookmarks or browsing history, but some of your extensions and other add-ons might not work until updates for them are made available.
[10:04] <Magilla> the firefox site is bloody useless
[10:04] <amit> any one help me , my drive is not mounted,how to mount it
[10:04] <ianmacgregor> kosnick: That is what I tried to tell you
[10:04] <Zajjko|work> a1113: tsclient in ubuntu only seems to be just that, a client for connecting to remote desktop servers
[10:04] <elkbuntu> !language
[10:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:04] <osama> preparing to destroy Dapper CDs ....
[10:04] <HiveChild> Zajjko|work, try and change the encoding, as far as I recall I have had similar problem with artifacts in the past in a vnc connection
[10:04] <Fujitsu> Zajjko|work: that's what tsclient was designed to do...
[10:04] <kosnick> ianmacgregor : sorry then , i didn't get it in the first place
[10:04] <Magilla> brosnan: thanks. elkbuntu: sorry...
[10:05] <ehird> quick question: is the release candidate identical to the version out today apart from a version number?
[10:05] <Fujitsu> ehird: No.
[10:05] <amit> any one help me , my drive is not mounted,how to mount it
[10:05] <a1113> kosnick, that can do it :)
[10:05] <brosnan> Magilla: seeing that 90% of the people using firefox get it from thier distro, mozilla does not provide much documentation
[10:05] <Fujitsu> ehird: There are a number of updated packages for fixing bugs.
[10:05] <Zajjko|work> Fujitsu: well I kind of figured. Just sounded like I could use it as a server earlier
[10:05] <ehird> fujitsu: okay, i'll wait then. thanks :)
[10:05] <kosnick> ianmacgregor : but which file is  changed? which can i change manually then?
[10:05] <a1113> Zajjko|work, no you have other protocols that are supported but you need to install some other dependencies
[10:05] <MatthewV> amit, there is a section in the System Documentation (System --> Help --> System Documentation) that explains that.. any troubles ask here
[10:05] <duckie> yea, eclipse is what I'm using on XP & Ubuntu at the moment. thanks Fujitsu. strange, I actually work for the Fujitsu company. anyway thanks guys
[10:06] <ianmacgregor> kosnick: When you right-click on the file and choose Open with Other Application, be sure to read the top of that new window.
[10:06] <NineTeen67Comet> Hello all .. does anyone have advice on getting as much as possible out of nVidia chipped cards? I'm running 2 cards and 4 monitors, and it seems pretty sluggish. I get the Nvidia screen on login, but still, they are slow. glxgears works some of the time, and never prints out the fps .. (glxgears -?)
[10:06] <a1113> Zajjko|work, I always used it with windows/linux servers never had problems. But maybe using TightVNC is better for you
[10:06] <Zajjko|work> a1113: well, I have tsclient on my Linux-comp at home. I need some other server for that comp I think
[10:07] <phire> try glxgears -info
[10:07] <InvisiblePinkUni> ubotu, you talking about keeping this channel family friendly? If only people saw the chat we had yesterday night, you naughty bot... ;)
[10:07] <Zajjko|work> a1113: you set up tsclient as a VNC-server and used TightVNC to connect to it?
[10:07] <pzx> 1
[10:07] <linuxvampire> ^_^
[10:08] <a1113> Zajjko|work, no no I always used tsclient as I client to connect to linux/windows comp
[10:08] <Zajjko|work> a1113: there we have it ; D
[10:08] <Zajjko|work> a1113: what server did you use on the Linux-comp in that case?
[10:08] <a1113> x11
[10:08] <Xeppo> is the Edgy release in http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ the official release?  It doesn't carry the RC tag.
[10:08] <phire> no
[10:08] <Fujitsu> Xeppo: No. It is not official.
[10:08] <Zajjko|work> a1113: x11vnc?
[10:08] <pdiddy_6787876> Quick question, If I wanted to input chinese chars / japanese text into a email in ubuntu how can I switch between locales with the keyboard?
[10:08] <linuxvampire> anyone else use E17/Dapper? :)
[10:09] <osama> yes
[10:09] <osama> 
[10:09] <Xeppo> Are the repositories official?
[10:09] <osama>  
[10:09] <RancidLM> does e17 work with XGL?
[10:09] <Fujitsu> Xeppo: It has not been fully released yet, so not strictly.
[10:09] <linuxvampire> Dunno, I'm gonna test it on Monday at school
[10:09] <elkbuntu> osama, please use english in the main channels
[10:09] <Xeppo> Fujitsu: The ubuntu.com frontpage is really confusing me.
[10:09] <cheesy> RancidLM: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:09] <InvisiblePinkUni> osama: is that arabic or hebrew?
[10:09] <twager> Anyone tell me if I can use my grub stanza to boot a distro on hdb9
[10:10] <ehird> xeppo: look at the description column: it still says release candidate
[10:10] <osama> elkbuntu, i know ... that was garbage arabic text...  just a demo for pdiddy_6787876
[10:10] <Artemis3> frontpage is being updated right now...
[10:10] <ehird> the front page, or the download page?
[10:10] <elkbuntu> osama, you could have used PM
[10:10] <barnetod> hey as a core 2 duo owner should i download 686?
[10:10] <mnepton> Artemis3: s/is being/has been/
[10:10] <Artemis3> ok
[10:10] <pdiddy_6787876> osama, how can I do that?  input multiple languages and switch between them?
[10:11] <ehird> personally i would have left the fancy home page graphic to after it'd been uploaded but hey, it's free :p
[10:11] <osama> elkbuntu, sorry
[10:11] <osama> pdiddy_6787876,
[10:11] <InvisiblePinkUni> yeah osama.... how do you do it?
[10:11] <osama> pdiddy_6787876, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[10:11] <osama> then Layouts
[10:12] <osama> BRB
[10:12] <rwscold> Ya would it be wise to run the 6866 version over 386 if i am running a dual core processor????????????????
[10:12] <Fujitsu> rwscold: Yes. Please don't use so many ?
[10:12] <ArmedKing> Is there a known howto for moving ubuntu to another partition. I have it currently installed on a usb hard disk. And would like to move is to hda?
[10:12] <shawarma> rwscold: In edgy you'd run the -generic kernel.
[10:12] <pdiddy_6787876> osama, Chinese is not available on that menu.  However japanese is.
[10:12] <Xeppo> The Feisty Fawn?  WTF was Mark thinking?
[10:13] <twager> Anyone tell me if I can use my grub stanza to boot a distro on hdb9
[10:13] <Fujitsu> Xeppo: He was thinking quite sanely, but that is -offtopic stuff.
[10:13] <Fujitsu> twager: yes...
[10:13] <ehird> ahaha, now the front page says "to be released 26 october" instead of "released"
[10:13] <twager> Thanks..
[10:14] <ehird> huzzah, download page is updated
[10:14] <Fujitsu> ehird: is it?
[10:15] <charle97> gregarious gorilla in next
[10:15] <a1113> sorry I was on the phone and I am a bit cranky Zajjko|work ^~^
[10:15] <a1113> yes
[10:15] <khaije1> no news?
[10:15] <ehird> fujitsu: yeah, but the actual links are broken >_>
[10:15] <Fujitsu> ehird: It's still showing 6.06 for me.
[10:15] <DrSpin> me too
[10:15] <Autonomy> ehird: Looks the same for me, too!
[10:15] <rwscold> same here
[10:15] <Fujitsu> ehird: We are some distance from the announcement yet.
[10:15] <khaije1> oops, ic they changed the chan message
[10:16] <ehird> oh, hum
[10:16] <ehird> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download is updated
[10:16] <Autonomy> Fujitsu: Curious... Whats your local time? Me: 5:46pm
[10:16] <ehird> but not the main download page
[10:16] <ehird> yet they're almost identical
[10:17] <Fujitsu> Autonomy: You're in South Australia?
[10:17] <Autonomy> Yep
[10:17] <Lemino> can I use the update-manager to update to edgy just as I normaly update the system?
[10:17] <Fujitsu> (I'm in Melbourne)
[10:17] <rwscold> wait
[10:17] <rwscold> whird what is that!
[10:17] <Fujitsu> Lemino: It will notify you when it detects a new release, and offer you the choice of upgrading.
[10:17] <ehird> what on earth does whird mean
[10:17] <rwscold> sorry lol
[10:18] <Autonomy> Fujitsu: :p Auzzies!
[10:18] <elkbuntu> YAY
[10:18] <rwscold> ehird thats it right??!
[10:18] <rwscold> ?!??!?!
[10:18] <Fujitsu> Autonomy: Join us in #ubuntu-au!
[10:18] <Lemino> Fujitsu: ok, so I don't have to use something like "sudo update-manager -c"?
[10:18] <ehird> edgy is released!!!!!! but the download links are broken.
[10:18] <dholbach> it's NOT released!
[10:18] <ehird> :p
[10:18] <dholbach> guys
[10:18] <ehird> i was replying to the topic
[10:18] <shawarma> DBO: Why did you change that?
[10:18] <crimsun> but daniel, I want my shiny! *whine*
[10:18] <dholbach> read ubuntu-announce@lists.ubuntu.com
[10:18] <azureal> stop the damn false hopes
[10:18] <Lemino> Fujitsu: because that's what I  learned from someone on another ubuntu-channel.
[10:18] <rwscold> hahahahahaha
[10:19] <Fujitsu> Yeah, it's not been released...
[10:19] <dholbach> crimsun: alt f2 -> free the fish - shiny :)
[10:19] <crimsun> tehe
[10:19] <ehird> just keep refreshing http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease and trying the links :p
[10:19] <Fujitsu> Lemino: once it has been appropriately released, it should be automatic, though you can do that if you want it quicker.
[10:19] <ehird> race to be the first on the http logs ,o/
[10:19] <Lard-O-Lad> is the chan topic right?
[10:19] <azureal> such a nerd, lol =P
[10:19] <ehird> no it isn't
[10:19] <Lemino> Fujitsu: you mean if I want the development-release?
[10:19] <DrSpin> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ still listing the RC for the torrent files :(
[10:19] <kofwang> the www.ubuntu.com 's frontpage has change! the image is disappear!
[10:19] <DBO> shawarma, cuz its released
[10:19] <ehird> drspin: because it isn't released!
[10:20] <InvisiblePinkUni> wooooooooooo hooooooooooooooooooooooo
[10:20] <shawarma> DBO: No, it is *not*!
[10:20] <azureal> lol
[10:20] <neuro_> i love release days :)
[10:20] <Fujitsu> Lemino: no, it may take a while for update-notifier to notice.
[10:20] <DBO> i guess not
[10:20] <Fujitsu> Thankyou, DBO.
[10:20] <ehird> dbo: give me one working download link to it and i'll agree :p
[10:20] <DBO> sorry
[10:20] <azureal> HAHA
[10:20] <kofwang> i think the current will be the finally version
[10:20] <neuro_> no-one has a frickin' clue what's going on outside the project itself, and every tiny change to a site is over analysed and causes complete havoc for at least 5 minutes :)
[10:21] <neuro_> it's brilliant :)
[10:21] <dholbach> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-October/thread.html
[10:21] <Fujitsu> kofwang: It may be, but it isn't official yet.
[10:21] <Lemino> Fujitsu: how do you mean?
[10:21] <InvisiblePinkUni> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:21] <ehird> kofwang: no, guaranteed every 6 months
[10:21] <DrSpin> WOW
[10:21] <ehird> besides from what i've heard it isn't exceedingly stable, so that would be a bad one to end on
[10:21] <GazzaK> this is the same as what happened with Dapper...  do you folks not learn?
[10:21] <Lemino> Fujitsu: what effect does it have to use the -c variable?
[10:21] <neuro_> GazzaK: hahaha
[10:21] <Fujitsu> Lemino: I believe it specifies to look for a new version of the distribution.
[10:21] <neuro_> GazzaK: don't be ridiculous ;)
[10:21] <InvisiblePinkUni> who changed the topic?
[10:21] <woekele> whats going on?
[10:21] <elkbuntu> GazzaK, if you're not going to contribute meaningfully, please move -offtopic
[10:22] <woekele> Edgy is postponed?
[10:22] <ehird> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download who removed 6.10 links?! :(((
[10:22] <shawarma> woekele: No.
[10:22] <Fracture> I just switched to TwinView, and beryl now works
[10:22] <Lemino> Fujitsu: no matter if that version is a final, stable one or not?
[10:22] <Deaigo> my processes keep getting killed
[10:22] <woekele> what's the problem then? :)
[10:22] <fabbione> ok
[10:22] <elkbuntu> **attention** all non-support related chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:22] <fabbione> please listen to me ONE MINUT
[10:22] <fabbione> Edgy is not released
[10:22] <fabbione> and it is NOT delayed
[10:23] <fabbione> the images that people are posting from .pool might NOT be final
[10:23] <fabbione> there are clear reasons why we push them to the mirrors BEFORE release
[10:23] <fabbione> so that the load can be spread across the network
[10:23] <fabbione> regarding the site
[10:23] <fabbione> there has been a mistake publishing the link on www.ubuntu.com
[10:23] <fabbione> it has been fixed
[10:24] <fabbione> an announcement will go to the mailing lists and HERE when it's all FINAL
[10:24] <fabbione> so please sit and relax
[10:24] <fabbione> it's a matter of few hours only
[10:24] <fabbione> no more
[10:24] <neuro_> elkbuntu: might be worth changing the topic to say "NOT Released Yet", otherwise people will think it's NEVER being released
[10:24] <elkbuntu> thankyou, fabbione :)
[10:24] <neuro_> thanks fabbione
[10:24] <rwscold> so what your saying is i should go to sleep
[10:24] <kofwang> thanx!!!
[10:24] <[H5N1] > geez, just load up RC1 and just update anything after release :p
[10:24] <kofwang> we wait!
[10:24] <Lynoure> people are funnily inpatient
[10:24] <neuro_> DBO: :))
[10:24] <kofwang> yes
[10:25] <ehird> so does this happen every release day? :p
[10:25] <rwscold> its a good thing ppl are getting excited
[10:25] <neuro_> ehird: pretty much
[10:25] <DBO> neuro_, it was a good catch
[10:25] <Fujitsu> ehird: yes.
[10:25] <Lard-O-Lad> what time was Dapper released?
[10:25] <ehird> next time, i'll bring popcorn :D
[10:25] <[H5N1] > The site is gonna get hammered totally at release..
[10:25] <kihai> And where can I find an image for edubuntu 6.10?
[10:26] <VoX> kihai: you cant, it's not released yet
[10:26] <ehird> kihai: when edgy is released
[10:26] <MatthewV> kihai, read /topic
[10:26] <Artemis3> gao~
[10:26] <ChrisNiemy> change topic to "NOT released and not postponed" ;)
[10:26] <Fujitsu> [H5N1] : It has the capabilities to withstand releases; it's done it before.
[10:26] <kihai> mkay...
[10:26] <neuro_> Lard-O-Lad: the mail went to -announce list at 09:08 UTC on june 1st for dapper, but that shouldn't really be taken as a benchmark of anything
[10:26] <Artemis3> man
[10:26] <ehird> besides, it's not as if it serves the isos or anything
[10:26] <DrSpin> LOL -- the edgy changes on the site have been pulled down
[10:27] <ehird> just a few html pages
[10:27] <Artemis3> bittorrent can stand anything
[10:27] <concept10> is upstart the replacement to init?
[10:27] <Zajjko|work> a1113: No problem at all. As you can see I'm at work and my boss is starting to look funny at me for my flickering screen and background controversing company policy anyway so... ; p
[10:27] <Artemis3> why they don't release bittorrent only first?
[10:27] <Artemis3> i don't get it
[10:27] <kihai> concept10: yes!
[10:27] <MatthewV> Artemis3, discuss in -offtopic :)
[10:27] <Artemis3> *snif*
[10:27] <ehird> artemis3: because some people have isps who horribly limit bittorrent downloads? ...like me ;)
[10:27] <xsacha> is edgy released yet? (and no i didnt read the title)
[10:27] <SilentDis> hello :)
[10:28] <leng> waiting eagarly , am sure it is coming....
[10:28] <ehird> xsacha: so you admit you didn't read your answer? uh huh
[10:28] <Artemis3> i said at first, not forever
[10:28] <Artemis3> come to offtopic
[10:28] <kihai> ehird: Wouldn't changing the default port for bittorrent solve that problem
[10:29] <SilentDis> bit of an oddball question here... I have a ximeta netdisk.  I've managed to get it setup properly, and can mount it from the prompt.  I'd rather use an entry in /etc/fstab if I could, so I can use the 'stupid user' toolbar mounter.  any ideas?
[10:29] <Ademan> what is extmod?
[10:29] <Fujitsu> A SUPPORT REQUEST!?
[10:29] <elkbuntu> Fujitsu, sshhh, you'll scare him off
[10:29] <SilentDis> Fujitsu:  did I break taboo?  lol
[10:29] <Fujitsu> SilentDis: what command did you use to mount it?
[10:30] <SilentDis> sudo mount /dev/ndas-00110749:0p1 /media/netdisk -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[10:30] <Fujitsu> SilentDis: This support channel hasn't had a support request in many minutes :)
[10:30] <ehird> kihai: doesn't work
[10:30] <SilentDis> lol fujitsu
[10:30] <Fujitsu> SilentDis: Add a line to /etc/fstab like so:
[10:30] <ehird> i've tried disabling firewalls, virus scanners, basically anything, adding forced encryption, random ports... still slow
[10:30] <Latino> haha, when everyone gets edgy you'll get tons of support request
[10:30] <timhaughton> Question about Dapper Server on a Dell box: When I do a soft reboot (reboot command) the system errors saying it can't find the hard disk. When I do a hard reset it's fine. This machine reboots fine with Windows. Is there something in Ubuntu that could cause this?
[10:30] <ehird> and this is on well seeded torrents
[10:31] <Fujitsu> timhaughton: Sounds like a BIOS bug, it happens on some Dells.
[10:31] <CarinArr> ehird, is this only in ubuntu?
[10:31] <neuro_> yeah, which client(s) are you using?
[10:32] <bun-bun> !build
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[10:32] <ehird> carinarr: no, as my adventures on ubuntuforums will tell you that so far I've had no luck getting my winmodem USB crappy affair to work in any linux distro :p
[10:32] <ehird> i'm hoping edgy might give me enough motivation to try again. :p
[10:32] <pablo> !releasedate
[10:32] <CarinArr> ehird, cause in general, a great number of isps cap their peer to peer traffic now
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about releasedate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <neuro_> ah, so this is a windows bittorrent issue :P :)
[10:32] <Fujitsu> !ef
[10:32] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[10:32] <ehird> pablo: whenitisdone
[10:32] <robin> !TheReleaseMinute
[10:32] <neuro_> ehird: (try utorrent)
[10:32] <pablo> !release
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about TheReleaseMinute - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[10:33] <ehird> neuro_ no, many torrent sites list my ISP as problematic for it
[10:33] <ehird> (Tiscali UK :'()
[10:33] <rwscold>  i need a mirror near texas anyone know of one?
[10:33] <ehird> neuro_: i do use utorrent :p
[10:33] <robin> Cmon we need 6.10 who's with me?
[10:33] <SilentDis> Fujitsu:  i missed the /etc/fstab line, would you mind resending it?
[10:33] <kihai> ehird: Disabling firewalls etc. doesn't help at all. You just need to change the ports bittorent uses. ITSPs block only certain ports that are known for filesharing.
[10:33] <CarinArr> ehird, tiscali, pipex etc all limit torrent traffic
[10:33] <DBO> robin, it will come when its ready, no sooner
[10:33] <VoX> robin: shush
[10:33] <justthisguy> robin: if you need it that bad just upgrade ;P
[10:34] <AlexC_> rwscold: this is a good mirror: http://www.architecturalantiques.com/Mirror%20French%20Gilt%20Mirror%20A%2048.5%20w%20x%2070.5%20h%20.jpg
[10:34] <Robin> I want the iso :)
[10:34] <Rockfish> rwscold: http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/6.06/ Is Utah close enough?
[10:34] <Fujitsu> SilentDis: /dev/ndas-00110749:0p1 /media/netdisk ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0
[10:34] <[H5N1] > You people are crazy :p
[10:34] <ehird> kihai: i have... utorrent uses a random port each startup
[10:34] <SilentDis> thank you fujitsu :)
[10:34] <Fujitsu> SilentDis: (Konversation thought it was a command, and I didn't notice it failed to send... Sorry)
[10:34] <rwscold> utah should work
[10:34] <ehird> it's crazy, they must have god working for them :p
[10:34] <Fujitsu> Robin, that's not going to do much good.
[10:34] <CarinArr> ehird, get a proper isp;)
[10:35] <SilentDis> no worries :)
[10:35] <Robin> Will final version of 6.10 contain ff 2.9 final
[10:35] <neuro_> ehird: sounds like you've discovered the joys of tiscali's traffic shaping, and that's not a topic for this channel :)
[10:35] <ehird> carinarr: been trying ;)
[10:35] <eliphas_> hello guys
[10:35] <AlexC_> if only it was April Fools day..... then I could shout out Edgy Eft RELEASED!!! then wait a while and then shout April Fools!
[10:35] <Robin> 2.0*
[10:35] <neuro_> ehird: summary: try using bittorrent between 0100 and 0900
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> Robin: 2.0 you mean, and that was the original plan, but I don't know if it made it or not.
[10:35] <[H5N1] > I didn't realize they went as far as a 2.9 final :p
[10:35] <Fujitsu> Robin, it does.
[10:35] <Fujitsu> tonyyarusso: It made it.
[10:35] <Fujitsu> Robin: (2.0, that is)
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> Fujitsu: Good
[10:36] <Robin> Why not Ice Weasel I thought it was some law stuff on that
[10:36] <shawarma> Robin: Yes, 2.0 is included.
[10:36] <ianmacgregor> AlexC_: Save it for Feisty Fawn (7.04 , April ) :)
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> Robin: A deal of some sort was struck.  Don't know details
[10:36] <AlexC_> Robin: Ubuntu managed to get permission for the changes they do to Firefox
[10:36] <Robin> Cool!
[10:36] <SilentDis> Fujitsu:  any way to not mount it by default?  the driver doesn't load for it till after /etc/fstab is parsed
[10:36] <CarinArr> !flash
[10:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:36] <Fujitsu> SilentDis: Add ,noauto to the bit before the 0s.
[10:36] <AlexC_> ianmacgregor: but that's the 16h
[10:36] <shawarma> SilentDis: add "noauto" to the options.
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> However, while I see we have the original FF logo back, why not the Thunderbird one as well?
[10:36] <SilentDis> Fujitsu:  thanks :D
[10:37] <AlexC_> ianmacgregor: I think they should change release date to April 1st just for me so I can shout it out :P
[10:37] <ianmacgregor> tonyyarusso: Where do you see the original ff logo?
[10:37] <Fujitsu> SilentDis: No problem.
[10:37] <Fujitsu> ianmacgregor: It's been in Edgy for about 3 days now.
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> ianmacgregor: I got it in an update maybe two days ago.
[10:37] <jrei> hi, anyone knows it is posible to switch to an active evolution instead of opening a new one?
[10:37] <ianmacgregor> Oh, in Edgy
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> yeah
[10:38] <jrei> how?
[10:38] <Robin> i don't know
[10:38] <per> hi guys can you please tell how to install (tar.gz) file in ubuntu
[10:38] <DBO> !compile
[10:38] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> jrei: Sorry, that was to ian, I don't know for your q.
[10:38] <Ghos[t] > hi!! sorry but does anyone know when edgy is out???
[10:38] <Fujitsu> !ef
[10:38] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[10:38] <freacky22527> per: tar xvf file.tgz && cd file
[10:38] <Robin> Lots of people are getting hyped about 6.10
[10:38] <ianmacgregor> per: First of all you need to unpack the tarball and read the INSTALL and README files in it
[10:38] <encompass> per: you need to extract it first just double click on it
[10:38] <Ghos[t] > thanks
[10:38] <AlexC_> Ghos[t] : it's out now go get it! ...... April Fools ... hum, doesn't quite work
[10:38] <SilentDis> well, thanks much all, especially you Fujitsu :).  again, my apologies for breaking the "no support requests in the support channel" curse lol
[10:38] <thee> they removed the ubuntu 6.10 released images from ubuntu.com ... lol
[10:39] <encompass> per: then what did the instructions say... if none... read the readme file in the dir you just extracted
[10:39] <Fujitsu> thee, of course. There was miscommunication that put them up in the first place.
[10:39] <AlexC_> thee: Yeah! when I saw they removed it I was like ... ooooooo any second now it will be released, so I kept hitting Refresh lol
[10:39] <CarinArr> jesus.. already time for edgy, only just upgraded my work machine to dapper;)
[10:39] <per> thanks i give it a try :)
[10:39] <encompass> I need the cd's of 6.10 for my install fest tomarrow... hope they come soon
[10:40] <InvisiblePinkUni> cant the topic be changed to a countdown clock?
[10:40] <shawarma> encompass: I hope you are kidding.
[10:40] <GazzaK> to countdown to when?
[10:40] <InvisiblePinkUni> cant the topic be changed to a countdown clock?
[10:40] <encompass> nope
[10:40] <Flannel> !ef
[10:40] <encompass> hehe
[10:40] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> InvisiblePinkUni: We don't have a time to count down to
[10:40] <AlexC_> see what I did there? Edge...Edgy....Edg..y....Edgy
[10:40] <CarinArr> er.. a countdown clock in the topic, would have to change the topic every second;)
[10:40] <CarinArr> slightly annoying;)
[10:40] <momal> lol.. maybe like an hour count down :)
[10:40] <rwscold> Ubuntu_6.06_i386_Christian_Edition_v1_4.iso
[10:41] <ehird> then we need an irc client that can run javascript code in the topic
[10:41] <encompass> I am waiting... pretty exceited about it... got alot of people hanging on this release
[10:41] <Ghos[t] > hehe
[10:41] <InvisiblePinkUni> GazzaK: until edgy release :)
[10:41] <xipietotec> heehee :D
[10:41] <ehird> rwscold: are you kidding me? :p
[10:41] <Artemis3> ewww
[10:41] <rwscold> it exists!
[10:41] <ehird> what the..
[10:41] <Artemis3> chatzilla?
[10:41] <per> there is no read me file in tar.gz, but there is a instal.sh
[10:41] <Artemis3> :P
[10:41] <valehru> Hell, Im bored with Edgy, waiting for fiesty fawn.
[10:41] <icCE> http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/dvd/current/edgy-dvd-i386.iso
[10:41] <encompass> per what is the file your tring to install?
[10:41] <ehird> icCE: wrelease candidate i bet
[10:41] <per> it opera
[10:42] <per> *s
[10:42] <encompass> ohhh
[10:42] <icCE> ehird, current ? +)
[10:42] <ehird> that's a daily build
[10:42] <ehird> http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/dvd/current/ <-- look
[10:42] <encompass> we I think you can get that with the extra repos let me check...
[10:42] <rwscold>  wanted to let you know what the christian one has to offer.
[10:42] <rwscold> UbuntuChristian Edition is a free, open source operating system gearedtowards Christians. It is based on the popular Ubuntu Linux. Ubuntu isa complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with bothcommunity and professional support.
[10:42] <xipietotec> the Christian Edition is just Ubuntu with some open source bible stuff (which is in universe allready) pre-installed
[10:42] <ehird> how the heck do christians get their own release? XD
[10:42] <rwscold> haha its funny is all
[10:42] <hkl8324> xipietotec, yes
[10:42] <elkbuntu> Attention please everyone: Edgy Eft has **NOT** been released yet. Could offtopic discussion (non-ubuntu-support discussion) please go to #ubuntu-offtopic. Thankyou
[10:42] <alesdoc> Hello: how can i modify the dimension of the terminal-window from 80x24 to a bigger dimension by the start-up of the window?
[10:43] <encompass> per... go here... http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?distro=ubuntu&id=28354%2C28352&location=204&sub=++++&x=104&y=23
[10:43] <rwscold> i waited like  years for windows xp GE (God edition) but nooooooooo
[10:43] <encompass> just double click that download and install it like that
[10:43] <CarinArr> alesdoc, gnome-terminal?
[10:43] <timhaughton> If the Ubuntu Christian edition crashes - can you take the Lord's name in vain?
[10:43] <mnepton> and if the off-topic discussion could follow the Ubuntu Code Of Conduct and be respectful toward people's personal beliefs that would be great, too.
[10:43] <hkl8324> will xubuntu release today?
[10:43] <alesdoc> CarinArr: yes
[10:43] <rwscold> i think so tim
[10:43] <encompass> timhaughton: nownow... be nice
[10:43] <DBO> timhaughton, offtopic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:43] <elkbuntu> rwscold, next kick will be accompanied with a ban
[10:44] <alesdoc> CarinArr: i looked for an option on gconf but i didn't find it
[10:44] <encompass> hi FeistyFawn
[10:44] <CorpseFeeder> damn those double-underline links on web pages are annoying. you know the ones, they are generated randomly on any word in an offending site's text - you mouse over them and some idiot box pops up with a link to some advertiser with a tenuous link to the high-lighted word. I hate them. they are the bane of my existence.
[10:44] <CarinArr> alesdoc, gnome-terminal --geometry=GEOMETRY
[10:44] <MatthewV> CorpseFeeder, this is a support channel
[10:44] <osama> back ... how about kicking out anybody who asks the question.
[10:45] <rwscold> elkbuntu i am sorry i will stop but i dont understand why i am the only one u chose to pick on?  it seems like plenty more are having useless conversations in here as well but i will stop
[10:45] <elkbuntu> osama, very tempting
[10:45] <DBO> CorpseFeeder, offtopic chatted to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:45] <alesdoc> CarinArr: thanks i try
[10:45] <ianmacgregor> alesdoc: Yes, open your System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications -> and g to the system tab. Choose "Custom" in the Terminal Emulator section and type in: gnome-terminal --geometry 95x30   (replace the 95x30 with the dimensions of your choice.)
[10:45] <CorpseFeeder> yes, ok, but I don't think anyone is able to help me with my dc10+ card problem.
[10:45] <per> encompass   shall i save it to disk or open with
[10:45] <elkbuntu> rwscold, because you're not only misleading people, you're being obnoxious
[10:45] <alesdoc> ianmacgregor: thanks
[10:45] <encompass> per I would save it to disk
[10:45] <Artemis3> oh i have one of those taking dust
[10:46] <encompass> per: then just double click it...
[10:46] <per> and extract it to desktop?
[10:46] <rwscold> what about the guy making edgy edge songs earlier ya ok sorry i will shutup now
[10:46] <encompass> per... it won't extract it will ask to be installed
[10:46] <DBO> good idea =)
[10:47] <Artemis3> beta edgy sounds were cool
[10:47] <encompass> per: then it will ask for your admin password and your installed from there
[10:47] <encompass> per: is there something wrong?
[10:47] <ianmacgregor> alesdoc: alesdoc You can also use that command (gnome-terminal --geometry 95x30) as a launcher or menu entry as well.
[10:48] <Schalken> where can i see the final (k)(x)(ed)ubuntu artwork?
[10:48] <encompass> per: ? per???? OH my gosh... i think I killed him!
[10:48] <per> no you didt :)
[10:48] <rackerz> just as many people as when dapper was releaw
[10:48] <encompass> per: phew... ok how is it going... did it install?
[10:48] <rackerz> released*(
[10:48] <alesdoc> ianmacgregor: it works...thanks a lot
[10:48] <ianmacgregor> alesdoc: You're welcome :)
[10:48] <per> no it did it
[10:49] <per> i can only extract the file
[10:49] <kupesoft> When's the release time!?
[10:49] <MatthewV> !ef
[10:49] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[10:49] <encompass> heh?  what does the file name end with ?  .deb?
[10:49] <Neil3> nobody knows
[10:49] <per> yes
[10:49] <ianmacgregor> per: It's a tarball, extract is all you can do with it.
[10:49] <AlexC_> Hi, yes erm - I'm having withdrawl symptons from the lack of Edgy Eft .. I'm wondering what command I can use to help me recover from the lack of Edgy Eft?
[10:50] <encompass> ianmacgregor: he is installing a deb now
[10:50] <ianmacgregor> encompass: Oh, my bad
[10:50] <ehird> alexc_: topic topic topic TOPIC
[10:50] <Goshawk> hi, is there anyone that know how to set an ubuntu installation as a gateway/router?
[10:50] <osama> apt-get dist-downgrade
[10:50] <encompass> per: try this at the Terminal...
[10:50] <CorpseFeeder> how do I do *anything* with a DC10+ card in ubuntu? I am totally stuck.
[10:50] <elkbuntu> AlexC_, please take idle comments out of the main support channel, thankyou
[10:50] <per> ok
[10:50] <AlexC_> aww ok, sorry :P
[10:50] <Schalken> AlexC_: killall %user
[10:50] <AlexC_> Schalken: Thanks! lol
[10:51] <encompass> per what version of ubuntu are you on?
[10:51] <thee> if I dist-upgrade to edgy will all the customization I have made to dapper remain unchanged(like gfxboot)
[10:51] <per> 5.10
[10:51] <CorpseFeeder> i am so stuck I've run out of questions to ask which might help me make this card work.
[10:51] <per> the same happens in the terminal too
[10:51] <encompass> hmm that explains it.
[10:51] <GNAM> all is a big word,. thee
[10:51] <encompass> ok at the terminsall do this...
[10:52] <elkbuntu> thee, technically yes, although you may have to decide in a few instances which config to use
[10:52] <encompass> per... sudo dpkg -i package_name.deb
[10:52] <okn> anyone installed Maya 8 on ubuntu ?
[10:52] <encompass> did it work?
[10:52] <per> i try :)
[10:52] <DBO> thee, it is generally a better decision to use the developers updated config files
[10:52] <DBO> thee, saves a lot of headaches down the road
[10:53] <encompass> per thanks for being patient
[10:53] <per> no thank you
[10:53] <thee> thanks DBO, elkubuntu & GNAM ;)
[10:53] <encompass> per 6.06 has a nice graphical installer... makes things really easy for beginners now...
[10:54] <encompass> per: you like opera?
[10:54] <per> yes
[10:54] <encompass> per have you tried the new firefox?
[10:54] <okn> firefox 2 kicksass
[10:55] <encompass> I hear it is a little faster
[10:55] <savvas> we're all waiting edgy to update to 2 :p
[10:55] <okn> hey got a question
[10:55] <per> first i have learn how too install prog in ubuntu
[10:55] <okn> is there a downloadable 64bit version of Ubuntu  ?
[10:55] <Schalken> where can i see edgy's final artwork?
[10:55] <per> sudo dpkg -i opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[10:55] <alesdoc> okin: yes of course
[10:55] <per> like that
[10:55] <okn> and after i install it, do i need to compile or is it binary ?
[10:55] <savvas> correct per
[10:55] <encompass> per... 99 percent of what you install you can use synaptic for... it is found in yout systems menu in administration
[10:55] <elkbuntu> Schalken, when it's released :)
[10:55] <alesdoc> okn: yes of course
[10:55] <CorpseFeeder> yes.. when is firefox 2 going to be added to synaptic?
[10:55] <okn> alesdoc : ofcourse to what ? Compilation :P ?
[10:56] <okn> alesdoc : or binary ?
[10:56] <encompass> okn jsut download the iso and it works... al binary
[10:56] <okn> hmm cool
[10:56] <per> but i did it find opera there or the new version of firefox
[10:56] <thee> okn : http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/
[10:56] <Schalken> elkbuntu: oh so they haven't released the artwork otherwise?
[10:56] <alesdoc> okn: of course there is a downloadable version of 64bit for ubuntu
[10:56] <TheGateKeeper> okn: you will need to install 32bit apps to get things like flash & codecs working
[10:56] <rohan> hi all
[10:56] <okn> think i say it in the cover of Linux dev. magazine..let me buy the mag :)
[10:56] <rohan> how many hours approx till 6.10 is out ?
[10:56] <elkbuntu> Schalken, if you're a tester, you will have seen it
[10:56] <okn> say/saw
[10:56] <MatthewV> !ef
[10:56] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[10:57] <TheGateKeeper> okn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[10:57] <rohan> MatthewV: lol thanks :D
[10:57] <Fyda> Hi. I was wondering if it would be safe to upgrade now to the current RC, and then receive the Final version's updates through Synaptic tomorrow? Is there a difference, eg. are there (serious) bugs in the RC that are only fixed in the Final, which would warrant waiting till tomorrow to download anything?
[10:57] <Stormx2> Almost done upgrading to edgy ;-) This is gonna go wrong.....
[10:57] <encompass> per... did it work for you?
[10:57] <per> no
[10:57] <okn> Did anyone installed Maya 8 64 ?
[10:58] <xipietotec> Stormx2: I upgraded to the last RC a few days ago, beryl works now :D
[10:58] <Stormx2> beryl?
[10:58] <okn> ok last question, ubuntu includes gnome and kubuntu kde right ??
[10:58] <elkbuntu> Stormx2, edgy's version of compiz
[10:59] <alesdoc> okn: kubuntu for kde
[10:59] <rohan> okn: yes
[10:59] <CorpseFeeder> what sort of animal is an eft?
[10:59] <DBO> Schalken, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=45434  if you want the community stuff, otherwise its the same thing you have in dapper
[10:59] <encompass> per what did it do?
[10:59] <okn> thanx guys
[10:59] <MatthewV> CorpseFeeder, ask in -offtopic
[10:59] <osama> beryl-project.org
[10:59] <momal> Stormx2: umm beryl isn't necassary edgy lol.. you can use dapper with beryl lol. #beryl
[10:59] <DBO> s/dapper/breezy/
[10:59] <xipietotec> Beryl is a superior version of compiz
[11:00] <Schalken> DBO: are you saying its the same crap that was in knot 3?
[11:00] <DBO> Schalken, no the same stuff in breezy
[11:00] <encompass> CorpseFeeder: didn't I play you in tremulous onse or twice?
[11:00] <DBO> i screwed up =P
[11:00] <encompass> CorpseFeeder: if so nice to see you in #ubuntu
[11:00] <per> it says it can get access to the arkiv or no file or filestructur
[11:00] <Schalken> DBO: im confused...the are using breezy artwork in edgy?
[11:01] <Schalken> they*
[11:01] <DBO> Schalken, yeah long story
[11:01] <DBO> Schalken, if you want to know more ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:01] <encompass> hmm let me see what I may have done wrong here..
[11:01] <Stormx2> I hate myself. I tried to copy a line from the updgrade dialog and thoughlessly pressed ctrl+c
[11:01] <per> how to you highlight my name
[11:01] <Stormx2> Now its giving me loads of dependancy problems. Suggestions?
[11:01] <encompass> per it depends on the chat program you are usings
[11:02] <per> ok
[11:02] <thee> Stormx2: sudo dpkg -configure -a
[11:02] <Stormx2> Okay. I'm using the update rool, will that work?
[11:02] <rohan> Stormx2: yes
[11:02] <rohan> that will work
[11:02] <Stormx2> Thanks. Ill write it down.
[11:02] <encompass> can we do a personally chat per?  I can focus on your problem there
[11:03] <per> ok
[11:04] <encompass> per try this... http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?distro=ubuntu&id=28354%2C28352&location=204&sub=++++&x=172&y=16
[11:04] <mcquaid> I'm having quality issues with mp3 playback in gstreamer apps like rhythmbox.  I noticed there isn't mad for gstreamer .10
[11:04] <mcquaid> is there anything else that provides mp3 playback besides fluendo for gstreamer?
[11:04] <encompass> per that should do it for you... hope it helps I have to get back to class see you now...
[11:05] <brong> grr
[11:05] <defrysk> mcquaid, apt-cache search gstreamer | grep mp3
[11:05] <ehird> gstreamer isn't gapless, is it?
[11:05] <Stormx2> ehird: depends on what is using it.
[11:06] <ehird> stormx2: so basically it needs hacks to be gapless? darn :(
[11:06] <per> thanks for helping me :) ENCOMPASS
[11:06] <ehird> (i'm thinking on the line of silence removers here, if it's just a bit of coding that doesn't effect non-gapless-transitions like that then that's fine)
[11:06] <Stormx2> ehird: I don't think so. gapless involves buffering a new file while the old one is still playing. Thats not what gstreamer does.
[11:06] <Tidus> hooray for flash 9 on linux
[11:06] <bianconeri> so is this Dapper or Edgy now:D?
[11:07] <ehird> stormx2: yeah, i've just heard stuff about it being very un-gapless indeed. but meh :P
[11:07] <InvisiblePinkUni> bianconeri: its Ubuntu :)
[11:07] <SdobSiSdub> .
[11:07] <ehird> as long as amarok can play my flacs alright :P
[11:07] <rohan> bianconeri: edgy is yet to be releases
[11:07] <rohan> *released
[11:08] <defrysk> uses rhythmbox
[11:09] <TheGateKeeper> bianconeri: don't think edge has fully released yet
[11:09] <TiDuS`> I need info of ubuntu
[11:09] <RancidLM> how do i enable the resolution 1600x1200 its in my xorg but its not in my resolution list in gnome nor is it in xrandr  any suggestions?
[11:09] <ehird> freebsd_fan: Nice nick.
[11:09] <davidwinter> hi all
[11:09] <babwe2> hi all is there a nfo creator in the repo for Ubuntu Drake
[11:09] <davidwinter> is there a scheduled release time for Edgy today?
[11:10] <rohan> ;ef
[11:10] <thee> !ef
[11:10] <MatthewV> !ef
[11:10] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:10] <rohan> !ef
[11:10] <nomad111> hi all i want to kno the commands that show me my ip address and routing table
[11:10] <freebsd_fan> yeah thanx
[11:10] <freebsd_fan> :)
[11:10] <davidwinter> thanks :) that's all I wanted to know :)
[11:10] <osama> ifconfig ... route
[11:10] <justthisguy> nomad111: ifconfig and route
[11:10] <osama> :)
[11:10] <MatthewV> !resolution | RancidLM
[11:10] <ubotu> RancidLM: x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:11] <TheGateKeeper> RancidLM: go & have another look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf make sure your monitor supports that res, that the horz & vert sync are correct etc etc
[11:11] <nomad111> justthisguy: route does a trace route right
[11:11] <nomad111> ?
[11:11] <valehru> Does anyone know a good chinese -> english vice versa dictionary that I could use in ubuntu?  also need it for japanese as well.
[11:11] <justthisguy> nomad111: no, route shows your kernel routing table. traceroute does a trace route :)
[11:12] <nomad111> justthisguy: u are a life saver
[11:12] <RancidLM> MatthewV:  i  found the problem my monitor is only capable of 1680x1050 max. but im stuck running it at 1440x900 because max res doesn't render fonts correctly.. any suggestions?
[11:12] <osama> valehru, google language tools?
[11:13] <MatthewV> RancidLM, i'm no x expert, but if its possible to hit maxres and its only fonts that cause issues then, i would say its probably a problem with fonts...
[11:13] <yangsup> xchat isrc
[11:13] <ehird> i never understand people who say they want to use 1600x1200, as i haven't found 1 anywhere near sanely-priced TFT screen with that as its native resolution
[11:13] <RancidLM> MatthewV: aight thnx though :)
[11:13] <Sp4rKy> hi
[11:14] <Sp4rKy> i need some help about live CD
[11:14] <DBO> ehird, CRT
[11:14] <MatthewV> Sp4rKy, just ask away!
[11:14] <Sp4rKy> i modify the live CD
[11:14] <ehird> DBO: well my CRT can do that too but if you're using a CRT i must wonder how you care about video quality :p
[11:14] <Sp4rKy> MatthewV: ??
[11:14] <howieson26> !de
[11:14] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:15] <Sp4rKy> and i want to set the default keyboard to fr
[11:15] <Sp4rKy> or better, correctly autodetect the keyboard
[11:15] <DBO> ehird, CRT's give better pictures and nothing with convince me otherwise, but we are offtopic
[11:15] <Sp4rKy> but at start, the live set english keyboard (qwerty)
[11:15] <ivoks> howdy
[11:15] <Zindar> Sp4rKy: system->settings->keyboard
[11:15] <Zindar> change there
[11:15] <Sp4rKy> Zindar: without X
[11:15] <CorpseFeeder> when ubuntu starts up the background colour before the desktop picture loads is always brown. How do I change the colour of this?
[11:16] <abc> Hello, i need some help. May i ask a question?
[11:16] <Sp4rKy> !ask
[11:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:16] <tonyyserver> !ask
[11:16] <abc> I saw on ubuntu.com that 6.10's final version has been released, but on the download page, i cant find any site that lets me download the 6.10 version
[11:16] <BladeSling> Ohh joy... 1000 people here to help..
[11:16] <abc> Can someone tell me from where should i get 6.10?
[11:16] <abc> i tried to look at the ubuntu site, but all the download lists had 6.06 ISOs
[11:16] <shawarma> !ef
[11:16] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:16] <ivoks> abc: from nowhere yet
[11:16] <ehird> wow, 1000 users
[11:16] <MatthewV> CorpseFeeder, not sure, but System --> Administration --> Login Window (colour options) may help
[11:16] <ehird> guess now would be a good time to ask a problem i've been having eh :p
[11:17] <JoseStefan> abc, later in the day
[11:17] <nikin> 1030 :D
[11:17] <babwe2> anyone know where t find a nfo creator and reader
[11:17] <abc> But the ubuntu.com main page says that 6.10 released, that is the main line on that page!
[11:17] <Sp4rKy> so without X, how can i set the default keyboard layout ?
[11:17] <nikin> nfo? like the windows one?
[11:17] <tarzeau> Sp4rKy: for console? loadkeys
[11:17] <tarzeau> Sp4rKy: otherwise in the x config file, inside x using setxkbmap
[11:17] <shawarma> abc: Are you perhaps behind some sort of caching proxy?
[11:17] <TheGateKeeper> abc: takes them time to get everything in place
[11:17] <babwe2> dont want t us wine
[11:18] <tarzeau> babwe2: tetradraw
[11:18] <hysua> abc: doesnt say that for me
[11:18] <Four23619> does anyone know if Edgy Eft will support the Intel DP965LT motherboard?
[11:18] <JoseStefan> abc, minor communication mistake, 6.10 will be released today, but the webmaster changed the page too early
[11:18] <Mikch> abc: it does not say it anymore :)
[11:18] <babwe2> yh somethng like the windoze ones
[11:18] <shawarma> abc: The release notification was accidentally put on the front page for half an hour or so, but it's been remove again.
[11:18] <babwe2> thanks
[11:18] <Sp4rKy> tarzeau: it's on the live CD system, so xorg.conf doesn't exist in the iso file , it will be created during startup
[11:18] <BladeSling> Alright, So I have a Blitzz BWI715 wireless network card. I hate this card, but unfortunatly, I have no money to go out and buy a new wireless card. I need help setting this up on ubuntu, otherwise it is useless to me because I can't update it or anything.
[11:18] <abc> shawarma: i am not behind any proxy whatsoever
[11:19] <shawarma> abc: Then tell your webbrowser to really refresh that page.
[11:19] <abc> Yeah now they removed that story from the main page
[11:19] <abc> but today morning i saw it
[11:19] <TheGateKeeper> abc: http://www.ubuntu.com/  <-- still talking about rc1
[11:19] <abc> maybe later today they may allow us to download it
[11:19] <tim--> i'm excited..  what a nerd.  /o\
[11:19] <Four23619> anyone?
[11:19] <per> http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-rc-desktop-i386.iso
[11:19] <tim--> i suspect it'd be a massive waste of my time to sit here and watch my screen until it's released..
[11:20] <ehird> tim-- dude, you're in a room FULL of nerds
[11:20] <ehird> per: that's the RC!!!!
[11:20] <tim--> heh
[11:20] <per> ok sorry about that
[11:20] <tonyyserver> tim--: Yeah, but that's how we're all wasting today ;)
[11:20] <MasseR> If you have dappers installed why don't you just upgrade from it?
[11:20] <MasseR> And download and burn the image later?
[11:20] <abc> So, is it 100% sure that at this time, i CANNOT download Ubuntu 6.10 from anywhere? And that later today it will be available?
[11:21] <DBO> yes
[11:21] <tim--> i might ring my isp and up my bandwidth..  heh
[11:21] <abc> MasseR: Dapper aint installed
[11:21] <BladeSling> Alright, So I have a Blitzz BWI715 wireless network card. I hate this card, but unfortunatly, I have no money to go out and buy a new wireless card. I need help setting this up on ubuntu, otherwise it is useless to me because I can't update it or anything.
[11:21] <mikl> abc: if you find the final images somewhere, let us know ;)
[11:21] <mikl> abc: but all the mirrors still only carry the RC
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> !wifi | BladeSling
[11:21] <ubotu> BladeSling: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> Maybe that helps
[11:22] <tim--> BladeSling, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List  <-- might be able to get some info there too
[11:22] <dennis-> what's the codename of 6.10?
[11:22] <abc> yes i checked many countries' mirror, and no-one got the final release as of now, maybe later today
[11:22] <elliot> Edgy Eft
[11:22] <|Bot|> hi ) i try upgrade dist tot edgy - and small problem from install  FF
[11:22] <|Bot|> Unpacking replacement firefox-dev ...
[11:22] <|Bot|> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-dev_2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):
[11:22] <|Bot|>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/firefox/regxpcom', which is also in package firefox
[11:22] <|Bot|> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[11:22] <|Bot|> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:22] <|Bot|>  /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-dev_2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[11:22] <|Bot|> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:23] <dennis-> elliot: so i should replace dapper with edgy when i want to update?
[11:23] <xipietotec> The next development release is Frolicking Fawn Bambi Twinkles.
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> !paste | |Bot|
[11:23] <ubotu> |Bot|: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:23] <|Bot|> how can help me ? )
[11:23] <hoelk> hmm
[11:23] <|Bot|> sorry
[11:23] <|Bot|> sorry
[11:23] <hoelk> im not sure if im 100% content with gewnview, any other picture viewer to recommend?
[11:23] <elliot> dennis-: If you think it would be best. Its optional, dapper still has a LOOOOONG support life ahead of it
[11:23] <Zajjko|work> hoelk: The native one in ubuntu? Gthumb?
[11:23] <ehird> elliot: impersonator
[11:23] <mikl> |Bot|: just remove the old firefox and reinstall the new one
[11:24] <elliot> ehird: sorry?
[11:24] <mikl> |Bot|: apt-get remove firefox && apt-get install firefox
[11:24] <ehird> elliot: you stole my name, minus one t :(
[11:24] <|Bot|> mikl# ok )
[11:24] <ehird> :D
[11:24] <hoelk> zajjko: im on kde
[11:24] <timhaughton> Anyone ever seen Ubuntu on a Panel PC?
[11:24] <hoelk> Zajjko|work the native one is gewenview here
[11:24] <hoelk> ;)
[11:24] <savvas> elliot: how much would that 'LOOOOONG' be in human days,months,years? :p
[11:24] <Zajjko|work> hoelk: right, but shouldn't you be able to install it seperately anyway?
[11:25] <Zajjko|work> hoelk: sorry, my bad
[11:25] <elliot> savvas: god knows!
[11:25] <hoelk> Zajjko, ill try gthumb
[11:25] <elliot> it has a long support life on it though
[11:26] <thee> hoelk:GQview
[11:26] <dsewnr_> Anyone know how to convert pdf to doc?
[11:26] <osama> http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2Cdebian%2Cfedora%2Csuse%2Credhat&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
[11:26] <|Bot|> mikl# not worked %\ need options for no-deps
[11:26] <guillem101> hoelk, I'm pretty happy with gthumb
[11:27] <elliot> dsewnr_: maybe, give me a mo
[11:27] <guillem101> hoelk, but my needs are pretty simple
[11:27] <guillem101> hoelk, fspot looks promising (the time-gap selection is a good thing)
[11:27] <xipietotec> osama: Ubuntu! FTW!
[11:28] <dsewnr_> elliot: The "mo" means what ?
[11:28] <elliot> dsewnr_: nah, only the other way round. Try saving it as a text file (and it means moment)
[11:28] <mikl> |Bot|: I don't really understand that...?
[11:28] <savvas> osama: http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2Cdebian%2Cfedora%2Csuse%2Cwindows&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
[11:28] <savvas> :p
[11:28] <assasukasse> hello, i have a big problem with apt-get could someone give a look please
[11:28] <assasukasse> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284749
[11:28] <osama> savvas,  :)
[11:28] <dsewnr_> elliot: Thx, let me try it. : )
[11:28] <elliot> assasukasse: sure, I am in a problem solving mood today
[11:29] <FearMoth> how can I do a text-mode install with the kubuntu dapper livecd?
[11:29] <rohan> assasukasse: ask, dont ask to ask :)
[11:29] <|Bot|> mikl# one monets ) i paste it to pastebin
[11:29] <MatthewV> FearMoth, you cant, you will need the alternate cd
[11:29] <assasukasse> thank elliot
[11:29] <kihai> FearMoth: You can't. You need the alternate cd
[11:29] <FearMoth> oh ok thanks
[11:29] <assasukasse> rohan and elliot is better you look at this, i posted the error http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284749
[11:29] <kihai> Ups, 8 secs too slow... :)
[11:30] <dirmass> hello
[11:30] <encompass> dirmass: howdy
[11:30] <elliot> assasukasse: hmm, looks like your repositories are slightly broken
[11:30] <rohan> assasukasse: ok, looking
[11:30] <assasukasse> elliot i totally agree...but what to do
[11:30] <elliot> assasukasse: You got some duplicates which you can safely ignore for the moment
[11:30] <monad> hi... can anyone help getting direct rendering with fglrx running?
[11:30] <elliot> assasukasse: Looking at the rest now
[11:31] <Mukunda> Gah, how much longer till release.
[11:31] <dirmass> I have a small problem, on dapper up to date, when I click the update manager From System > Update-manager I enter the admin pass, but the GUI doesnt load
[11:31] <rohan> !ef
[11:31] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:31] <rohan> Mukunda: that helps ? :D
[11:31] <Tatey> hmm?
[11:31] <monad> hi... can anyone help getting direct rendering with fglrx running?
[11:31] <elliot> assasukasse: open a terminal and type: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:32] <Mukunda> The tip is to not use fglrx, if you want to use proprietary software there is this operating system called Windows.
[11:32] <elliot> Mukunda: for many people fglrx is the only choice to play games at a decent speed
[11:32] <monad> mukunda: i got fglrx running on gentoo and on kubuntu, too - updateing to dapper recently broke it
[11:32] <dirmass> hmmm, Mikunda, what about mp3s : )
[11:32] <assasukasse> elliot i am there
[11:32] <dirmass> proprietary ?
[11:32] <Artemis3> seriously, closed propietary video drivers are a big problem
[11:33] <assasukasse> elliot i prefer vi :D
[11:33] <MatthewV> !fglrx | monad
[11:33] <ubotu> monad: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:33] <Mukunda> dirmass: there are free software mp3 decoders, screw the patents.
[11:33] <dirmass> Can I make a suggestion for Edgy?
[11:33] <Stormx2> OHMIGAWD
[11:33] <ehird> question: if i clean-install edgy today, will it be easy to switch to kde and remove gnome+ gnome applications to save space?
[11:33] <Artemis3> i rather play games in windows than making my linux distro unstable with em
[11:33] <Stormx2> It almost works!!!
[11:33] <rwscold> automatix....easy ubuntu] 
[11:33] <elliot> assasukasse: ok, can you go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste in the contents of your sources.list file?
[11:33] <Stormx2> I *actually* upgraded and X still works!
[11:33] <mvo> dirmass: if you open a termianl and type "gksu update-manager" there, what does it print then?
[11:33] <ehird> using kubuntu right now but its lack of build-essentials and other things is annoying
[11:33] <aldin> fglrx: what about XGL lol
[11:34] <dirmass> mvo: I just fixed it, reinstalled the package
[11:34] <livingdaylight> 10:34 GMT
[11:34] <oobea> how can i update my install to edgy beta with apt-get?
[11:34] <monad> ubotu: already did all that
[11:34] <elliot> assasukasse: vi it is. it makes no difference, a text editor is all you need
[11:34] <LuisMendes> well it's kinda late now.. where is edgy? :P
[11:34] <elo23>  apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:35] <rohan> !ef | LuisMendes
[11:35] <ubotu> LuisMendes: Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:35] <MatthewV> oobea, change every instance of dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list to edgy, then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:35] <elliot> assasukasse: have you pastebinned it? post the link
[11:35] <dirmass> Can I make a suggestion for Edgy? Here: After the user does a fresh install of the OS, There should be a link to Automatix or EasyUbuntu in the README on the desktop
[11:35] <xzk> I heard on digg.com that a new version of ubuntu was released. Is this true?
[11:35] <livingdaylight> We are EDGING ever closer to the FULL RELEASE!
[11:35] <rohan> dirmass: ubuntu would be an accessory to crime in that case, i think
[11:35] <rohan> dirmass: i had read to that effect somewhere
[11:35] <ivoks> xzk: it's lie, lie i tell you :)
[11:35] <savvas> does anyone know how many mbs will the distro have as an update?
[11:36] <MatthewV> !ef | xzk
[11:36] <ubotu> xzk: Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:36] <upt1me> neccisito disco compacto de edgy
[11:36] <xzk> oh man!
[11:36] <Bart> I was afk... does sbd have some news from edgy eft ?
[11:36] <elkbuntu> Attention please everyone: Edgy Eft has **NOT** been released yet. Could offtopic discussion (non-ubuntu-support discussion) please go to #ubuntu-offtopic. Thankyou
[11:36] <xzk> I wanted a new version :).. with Flash 9
[11:36] <assasukasse> elliott its on pastebin
[11:36] <rohan> xzk: read the topic .. it was just digg spam
[11:36] <gh0st> hello can anyone send me libjavaplugin_oji.so?
[11:36] <oobea> thx MathewV :)
[11:36] <Bart> thx :)
[11:36] <dirmass> rohan: I'm very sure it's all legal, A brief explanation about codecs and where the get the easily
[11:36] <xzk> Will the new version of Ubuntu have Flash 9?
[11:36] <elliot> assasukasse: great give me a link
[11:36] <rohan> xzk: i don't think so
[11:36] <dirmass> its just an explanation
[11:36] <MatthewV> dirmass, that is already at !codecs
[11:37] <ivoks> xzk: ubuntu never had flash
[11:37] <xzk> How do I install Flash 9 then? :(
[11:37] <gh0st> hello can anyone send me libjavaplugin_oji.so? (or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.)
[11:37] <ivoks> xzk: it's illegal to have it
[11:37] <rohan> dirmass: ah, you maybe right .. kubuntu now includes a codecs installer :D
[11:37] <xzk> it's illegal?
[11:37] <dirmass> so newbies dont get annoyed because they can't play their mp3s
[11:37] <rohan> with amarok
[11:37] <ivoks> xzk: btw, flash9 isn't released yet
[11:37] <xzk> Adobe released Flash 9.. it's not illegal
[11:37] <elkbuntu> !flash
[11:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:37] <rohan> xzk: its not released yet
[11:37] <elkbuntu> gah.. stupid thing
[11:37] <xzk> Flash 9 Beta.. from Adobe
[11:37] <MatthewV> xzk, you can always check the adobe website... and install the one from there
[11:37] <gneral> hi
[11:37] <assasukasse> elliott pastebin gave me an error i try to post again
[11:37] <rohan> xzk: as you said, "beta"
[11:37] <gneral> I cant install adobe fp7 to firefox 2 , how to ? :[
[11:37] <ivoks> xzk: right, it's illegal - only adobe can distribute it; ubuntu can't
[11:38] <xzk> I don't know how to install things on linux.. without using the Synaptic thing :(
[11:38] <rohan> yes, but ubuntu can distribute a script to install flash- which is exactly what it does :)
[11:38] <elliot> assasukasse: ok, otherwise try another paste bin. Please spell my name 'elliot' and with a colon. then I can see it red in xchat
[11:38] <dirmass> ubotu: I'm not having any issues, I'm just making a suggestion to include A BRIEF explanation about "Automatix and EasyUbuntu"  in the README after the fresh install of Ubuntu
[11:38] <ivoks> rohan: right :)
[11:38] <MistaED> xzk: flash 9 is still beta, but you can download it still and copy-paste the plugin into firefox, or my favourite /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/ (overwriting flash 7)
[11:38] <rohan> ivoks: :)
[11:38] <gh0st> hello can anyone send me libjavaplugin_oji.so, or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.? please. (it's the java plugin for mozilla 32bit)
[11:38] <ivoks> rohan: same goes with decss :)
[11:38] <rohan> gh0st: only that single file won't help
[11:38] <rwscold> dirmass automatix and easy ubuntu help install illegal things into ubuntu!
[11:38] <rohan> ivoks: ah, that too
[11:38] <xzk> MistaED: whats the difference in the 2
[11:39] <gh0st> rohan: it will for me
[11:39] <ehird> this is confusing, i keep typing stuff to people who talk to elliot
[11:39] <assasukasse> elliot, here is the pastebin http://rafb.net/paste/results/UUCk3A89.html
[11:39] <xzk> copy paste plugin into firefox.. and the other one
[11:39] <rohan> rwscold: exactly ! which is why they can't even include a reference to it in the docs
[11:39] <elliot> assasukasse: sorry!
[11:39] <gh0st> rohan: i just need the plugin for ff 64 bit with nspluginwrapper
[11:39] <elliot> assasukasse: sorry wrong person. THanks for that
[11:39] <dirmass> rwscold: give me an example of ILLEGAL stuff on easyubuntu.....?
[11:39] <elliot> ehird: sorry!
[11:39] <hypertevi> hi ;-)
[11:39] <rohan> gh0st: ok, my bad then. :)
[11:39] <thee> sudo update-manager -c  says new distribution available???
[11:39] <rwscold> thats what i'm saying rohan
[11:39] <rohan> dirmass: th codecs
[11:40] <dirmass> and tell me how it is ILLEGAL to post a link to www.easyubuntu.com
[11:40] <MistaED> xzk: version 7 might get looked at still by browsers, and the second approach will make it overwrite version 7 (but you need access privileges to copy it over there, also you need to make sure ubuntu doesn
[11:40] <assasukasse> no prob elliot
[11:40] <rohan> dirmass: "Accessory to crime"
[11:40] <livingdaylight> Does anyone know anything behind the thinking of the name EDGY EFT?
[11:40] <elliot> assasukasse: give me 5mins to fix thsi up
[11:40] <MistaED> 't overwrite it with version 7 if that gets an update)
[11:40] <elkbuntu> rwscold, please stop the FUD
[11:40] <hypertevi> i'm upgrading to edgy, ^^
[11:40] <gh0st> rohan: do you have it? iit would be very nice if i could have it :-)
[11:40] <MatthewV> livingdaylight, ask in -offtopic
[11:40] <hypertevi> but it's slow..
[11:40] <elliot> livingdaylight: yes because its edgy and an eft is a young newt thing
[11:40] <rohan> livingdaylight: there was a mailing list post about it, i can't find it now though
[11:40] <rohan> gh0st: i'd love to help, but I don't have ubuntu or java installed atm :)
[11:40] <livingdaylight> rohan: i never got it
[11:40] <dirmass> rohan: Then howcome there is an "EasyUbuntu" Forum on "www.ubuntu.com" and howcome there is an Automatix forum on "www.ubuntu.com" ILLEGAL?
[11:40] <gh0st> hello can anyone send me libjavaplugin_oji.so, or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.? please. (it's the java plugin for mozilla 32bit)
[11:41] <livingdaylight> elliot: thx, kinda explains it
[11:41] <rohan> dirmass: which country are the forums hosted in ?
[11:41] <Cyber_Nany> isnt linux barelly legal ?
[11:41] <rwscold> dirmass the forums are maintained and written by who?
[11:41] <Artemis3> -_-
[11:41] <xzk> Would anyone mind remotely connecting to my PC and installing Flash 9 Beta for me, I'm helpless
[11:41] <rwscold> ya me too haha
[11:42] <livingdaylight> i just read Mark Shuttleworths Forward in the Official Ubuntu Book. He explains why the first release was called Warty. lol
[11:42] <thoreauputic> rohan: dirmass and others please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:42] <dirmass> rohan: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ : 3rd Party Projects : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=86
[11:42] <rohan> thoreauputic: ok, i will stfu about it here :)
[11:42] <rwscold> thor they are talking about ubuntu related issues
[11:42] <dirmass> rohan: Accesory to crime
[11:42] <livingdaylight> is there now a new place called the fridge?
[11:42] <dirmass> ?
[11:42] <thoreauputic> please discuss automatix/easyubuntu elsewhere to keep the temperature down here :)
[11:42] <dirmass> ok
[11:42] <livingdaylight> !fridge
[11:42] <ubotu> fridge is the Ubuntu's Community News website, and can be found at http://fridge.ubuntu.com
[11:42] <rwscold> deal
[11:42] <elliot> assasukasse: why do you have multiverse and universe at the same time in one line?
[11:42] <livingdaylight> wow
[11:42] <gh0st> hello can anyone send me "libjavaplugin_oji.so" (should be found trough "search"), or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.? please. (it's the java plugin for mozilla 32bit)
[11:43] <tonyyserver> xzk: That could probably be arranged if you trust any random person to install stuff for you.  Would likely be better to try to read the instructions and be walked through it, but yeah, it could be done.
[11:43] <thee> Use update manager everyone. I am upgrading to 6.10 .
[11:43] <rohan> gh0st: wait, i'll do it
[11:43] <stromp> is it done?
[11:43] <rohan> i found it :)
[11:43] <Cyber_Nany> dont forget to FLOSS
[11:43] <mnepton> gh0st: install it via apt-get
[11:43] <xzk> tonyyserver: would you do it for me :)
[11:43] <assasukasse> elliott i don't know i didn't manually edit them
[11:43] <livingdaylight> NEWS!
[11:43] <gh0st> rohan: but you don't have ubuntu?
[11:43] <ehird> Cyber_Nany: linux barely legal? what?
[11:43] <livingdaylight> Ubuntu has walked away with Best Distribution at the Linux Awards held in London last night.
[11:43] <rohan> gh0st: yes, but i do have java
[11:43] <assasukasse> elliot i don't know i didn't manually edit them
[11:43] <gh0st> mnepton:? not possible, it's just a single file i need
[11:43] <tonyyserver> xzk: Step into ##tonyyarusso
[11:43] <rohan> gh0st: and the plugin remains the same
[11:43] <livingdaylight> !fridge
[11:43] <ubotu> fridge is the Ubuntu's Community News website, and can be found at http://fridge.ubuntu.com
[11:43] <elliot> assasukasse: ok, this could take a while
[11:44] <livingdaylight> check it out
[11:44] <Cyber_Nany> linux is basically UNIX reloaded
[11:44] <gh0st> rohan: i'm not sure about this
[11:44] <rohan> gh0st:   http://rapidshare.com/files/732312/libjavaplugin_oji.so.html
[11:44] <rohan> i am
[11:44] <mnepton> gh0st: the Sun Java Moz plugin is in Multiverse
[11:44] <gh0st> ok thanks
[11:44] <rohan> if the plugin is all you need, then this'll do, gh0st
[11:44] <gypsymauro> so where it's that edgy?
[11:44] <gh0st> thanks rohan, will try now!
[11:44] <rohan> !ef | gypsymauro
[11:44] <ubotu> gypsymauro: Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:44] <mnepton> the plugin is useless without a JRE
[11:44] <rohan> mnepton: which is what i told him at the very beginning
[11:44] <gh0st> mnepton: i do have jre, but amd64 version!!
[11:45] <gh0st> mnepton that mean WITHOUT plugin
[11:45] <rohan> gh0st: the link works ?
[11:45] <NineTeen67Comet> Any handy xorg/nvidia/3D tweekers in here? (my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28400/) .. I've got 4 monitors, two video cards, and it's all working .. just a little laggy and glx seems to come and go ...
[11:45] <mnepton> and you're using mozwrapper or a chroot for Firefox?
[11:46] <assasukasse> i was wondering if i should reinstall from scratch the edgy final or if it will just be fine to update.
[11:46] <ehird> bah, i need edgy :(
[11:46] <gh0st> mnepton: nspluginwrapper, but i'm nor sure if the plugin for windows does also work for linux
[11:46] <mvo> assasukasse: updating should usually be fine
[11:46] <livingdaylight> will the real EDGY stand?!
[11:46] <Naked_Snake> Excuse me, is there a way to connect to AOL with Ubuntu?
[11:46] <rohan> ehird: we all do :D
[11:47] <livingdaylight> Canonicals Jane Silber was there to pick up the award, a transparent, and extremely sharp glass trophy with the wording UBUNTU engraved into the glassword. Jane spent the rest of the evening closely guarding her new toy.
[11:47] <gh0st> rohan: well it's what i tought: not compatible with linux :-(
[11:47] <Mukunda> Hrmm hopefully Edgy will run on my laptop, and be better than Fedora 6 (which ended up being crap). I really can't be bothered going back to Gentoo.
[11:47] <rohan> someone said something to be, just as i quit ? :D
[11:47] <gh0st> mnepton: do you have libjavaplugin_oji.so (on ubuntu 32bit), if so, could you upload it on rapidshare.de, please?
[11:47] <rohan> gh0st: didn't i just upload the file for you ? :P
[11:47] <elliot> assasukasse: go to http://ccdc.kicks-ass.org/sources.list and replace your current sources.list with it
[11:47] <ehird> rohan: :D. I just hope ueagleatm still works
[11:47] <gh0st> rohan: well it's what i tought: not compatible with linux :-(
[11:48] <rohan> ehird: hehe ok :)
[11:48] <mnepton> gh0st: i'm fairly sure there's a 64 bit plugin from Sun
[11:48] <elliot> assasukasse: try updating with that
[11:48] <rohan> gh0st: i am on 32bit machine
[11:48] <Cyber_Nany> do you think one can rate a channel friendlyness by the number of similes being used ? :)
[11:48] <rohan> ok, i am off now .. bye all, i wish next time i am here, edgy is out :D \o/
[11:48] <assasukasse> elliot thanks i try to go there
[11:48] <oobea> Edgy/6.10 is out
[11:48] <gh0st> mnepton: no, they don't have one, it's even written on their dl -site: Please use the 32-bit version for Java applet and Java Web Start support.
[11:48] <Mukunda> oobea: it is?
[11:49] <elliot> Celebrate EDGY EFT IS HERE!
[11:49] <Mukunda> Hrmm.. nothing on the front page.
[11:49] <gh0st> mnepton: can you send it to me? i just need it to wrap it for amd64
[11:49] <mnepton> gh0st: sudo apt-get install gcjwebplugin
[11:49] <MatthewV> oobea, who says?
[11:49] <ehird> It's out???
[11:49] <oobea> "New distribution release '6.10' is available"
[11:49] <ehird> oh. no web release.
[11:49] <monad> still no direct rendering with fglrx, it's still set on mesa
[11:49] <oobea> That's what my software update manager says.
[11:49] <xzk> I was just told it's not out.. who says it is?
[11:50] <teckfatt> oobea: send the link pls
[11:50] <monad> what could i have forgotten?
[11:50] <Naked_Snake> Excuse me, is there a way to connect to AOL with Ubuntu?
[11:50] <Mukunda> ....
[11:50] <assasukasse> elliot what about automatix? should i remove it?
[11:50] <monad> ...
[11:50] <Cyber_Nany> whats AOL ?
[11:50] <guyo> [lol] 
[11:50] <gh0st> mnepton: but i JUST need libjavaplugin_oji.so... do oyu have it or not?
[11:50] <MatthewV> oobea, it may now be possible to upgrade to it, but it has not yet been released
[11:50] <xzk> Naked_Snake: whats on AOL ?
[11:50] <thee> the upgrade is a 1165MB download.
[11:50] <oobea> you mean there aren't any iso's
[11:50] <Naked_Snake> It's my ISP
[11:50] <savvas> :o
[11:50] <MatthewV> until the official notice is sent out, it has NOT been released
[11:50] <elliot> assasukasse, delete the contents of your sources.list and keep everything in the version over there
[11:50] <savvas> thee: country?
[11:50] <Mukunda> Naked_Snake: that's a shame.
[11:51] <gh0st> hello can anyone send me "libjavaplugin_oji.so" (should be found trough "search"), or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.? please. (it's the java plugin for mozilla 32bit)
[11:51] <mnepton> gh0st: sorry, because i'm sitting at my desk with my work hat on, sending you something like that is not something i can do.
[11:51] <monad> is really no one of you using fglrx for direct rendering on a radeon card?
[11:51] <thee> MatthewV: update manager says 6.10 is ready to be installed?
[11:51] <guyo> monad: me
[11:51] <thee> savvas: India
[11:51] <ehird> might be the RC
[11:51] <gh0st> mnepton: and use rapidshare.de?
[11:52] <CieD> gh0st, try http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[11:52] <MatthewV> thee, it may say that, and then it is possible to upgrade to the 6.10 package set (which has been frozen for hours now anyway) but it is not yet released
[11:52] <mnepton> gh0st: sending users single files to patch functionality is not something my employer would like me doing.
[11:52] <gh0st> CieD: ?!?
[11:52] <thoreauputic> gh0st: redistributing java is legally a bit tricky - why can't you install it from multiverse ?
[11:52] <monad> guyo: i installed everything necessary, reconfigured the xserver, everything several times - i'm not doing this the first time - and it's still stuck on mesa
[11:52] <ehird> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1665301#post1665301 most pointless topic ever
[11:52] <monad> guyo: i desperately need to get this running
[11:52] <CieD> gh0st, ignore me, I'm a muppett
[11:52] <CieD> :)
[11:53] <guyo> i upgraded yesterday to the latest binary from ATI without a glitch, lemme see if i can find the guide i used
[11:53] <gh0st> can't just anyone with linux  32bit upload libjavaplugin_oji.so on rapidshare.de!?
[11:53] <mnepton> gh0st: not legally, no.
[11:53] <ivoks> :)
[11:54] <gh0st> mnepton: well i DO HAVE JAVA installed, and agreed the license
[11:54] <monad> guyo: Xorg.0.log still says: (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section
[11:54] <elliot> Everyone, what are your experiences of the new flash 9 plugin for linux?
[11:54] <guyo> monad: that seems an error in the xorg.conf file
[11:54] <kliklik> elliot: It's rock solid in my Firefox 2.0 (i386)
[11:54] <monad> guyo: honestly i don't think so. it's about the millionth xorg.conf i configured
[11:55] <gh0st> hello can anyone send me "libjavaplugin_oji.so" (should be found trough "search"), or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.? please. (it's the java plugin for mozilla 32bit). i just need this onre very file
[11:55] <thee> elliot: working like a charm
[11:55] <elkbuntu> gh0st, please do not yell at people who are trying to help you. it is very rude.
[11:55] <savvas> ehird: it's just a cry for help, he's referring to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284642
[11:55] <ivoks> gh0st: but other don't have license to distribute :)
[11:55] <ehird> savvas: but still
[11:55] <gh0st> elkbuntu:?
[11:55] <elliot> :) thanks killik and thee. I'll install it :)
[11:55] <assasukasse> elliot it.archive.ubuntu.com edy/main,universe,multiverse,restricted  packages is error 404
[11:55] <xzk> ehird: I replied to that post
[11:55] <monad> guyo: driver is set to fglrx, internalagpgart to no
[11:55] <gh0st> ivoks: do you really think a single plugin file will cause problems? :-)
[11:55] <elliot> delete that line then
[11:55] <assasukasse> elliot actually every it.archive is unreacheable
[11:56] <ivoks> gh0st: i don't want to find out
[11:56] <elliot> really, they worked in your build
[11:56] <monad> guyo: lsmod says fglrx is loaded and depending on
[11:56] <guyo> monad: actually i'm at work and my radeon is at home so i can't check in rt
[11:56] <monad> fglrx                 391756  8
[11:56] <monad> agpgart                36784  2 fglrx,via_agp
[11:56] <elliot> ok
[11:56] <elliot> assasukasse: OK, right. I'll generate you a sources.list
[11:56] <gh0st> well someone just gave me one version which was for windows so it didn't work
[11:56] <guyo> monad: the "no matching Device section" definitely refers to a section in xorg.conf
[11:56] <elliot> assasukasse: give me a mo. That should have worked though
[11:57] <assasukasse> elliot i remove it and leave just archive.ubuntu.com...seems italian repo are down from yesterday (from the italian ubuntu channel)
[11:57] <monad> guyo: i know, but why
[11:57] <guyo> pastebin the conf file plz
[11:57] <monad> guyo: ok
[11:57] <LookTJ> I thought edgy is out today?
[11:57] <savvas> *will be*
[11:58] <MatthewV> !ef | LookTJ
[11:58] <ubotu> LookTJ: Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:58] <guyo> i'm pretty busy, no promises, but i'll take a quick look
[11:58] <elliot> assaukasse: ok, that'll be your problem then. For future reference try http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:58] <osama> LookTJ: Read the channel Topic
[11:58] <monad> guyo: http://rafb.net/paste/results/wDgqEt28.html
[11:58] <assasukasse> thanks elliot but i have another prob, says my packages are unauthenticated...what to do?
[11:58] <elliot> ok
[11:59] <elliot> assasukasse: use these commands, follow them EXACTLY
[11:59] <guyo> monad: and please your Xorg.0.log
[11:59] <elliot> assasukasse: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 437D05B5
[12:00] <monad> guyo: http://rafb.net/paste/results/wrBCjy10.html
[12:00] <cyzie> hello , i just install xubuntu on my sata disks. but i suspect it didnt mirror between the 2 disks. im using abit nf7-s2 and two 80GB sata disks. anyone can help?
[12:00] <elliot> assasukasse: gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[12:00] <elliot> assasukasse: then try
[12:00] <guyo> monad: gimme a sec
[12:01] <monad> guyo: thanks
[12:01] <assasukasse> no valid openpgp data found
[12:01] <mnepton> ladies and gentlemen .....
[12:01] <mnepton> EDGY HAS BEEN RELEASED!
[12:01] <mnepton> welcome to Ubuntu 6.10
[12:02] <elkbuntu> :)
[12:02] <justthisguy> Woo!
[12:02] <apokryphos> w00t
[12:02] <dholbach> ROCK ON
[12:02] <Bart> Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah :D:D:D
[12:02] <elliot> :D:D:D:D:D:D!
[12:02] <ehird> YESSSS
[12:02] <lgm> Excellent.
[12:02] <elliot> PARTY!
[12:02] <elkbuntu> *fireworks*
[12:02] <eXistenZ> Hey
[12:02] <justthisguy> happydance!
[12:02] <ehird> Um
[12:02] <ehird> Where is it.
[12:02] <Bart> Link plz ?
[12:02] <eXistenZ> Happy Edgy Day!
[12:02] <eXistenZ> link :o
[12:02] <phire> Thank you
[12:02] <ehird> http://www.ubuntu.com/download nuttin'
[12:02] <gh0st> can anyone send me "libjavaplugin_oji.so" (should be found trough "search"), or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.? please. (it's the java plugin for mozilla 32bit, i need the one for 32bit to wrap with nspluginwrapper). i just need this one very file for my amd64.
[12:02] <assasukasse> elliot unfortunately seems not to work..
[12:03] <AlexC_> WOOT
[12:03] <elkbuntu> howeverrrrrr... offtopic (non-support) talk to #ubuntu-offtopic, leave this channel clear for support :) thankyou all!
[12:03] <ehird> I still can't find it.
[12:03] <eXistenZ> http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.10/
[12:03] <cyzie> hello , i just install xubuntu on my sata disks. but i suspect it didnt mirror between the 2 disks. im using abit nf7-s2 and two 80GB sata disks. anyone can help?
[12:03] <ehird> eXistenZ: that's an RC
[12:03] <rob> Congrats guys!
[12:03] <mnepton> i'll have fast torrent seeds up in ~2 minutes.
[12:03] <eXistenZ> oh yes
[12:03] <xzk> RC 3 will be the exact same as the final release
[12:03] <MasseR> ehird: No it isn't
[12:03] <AlexC_> Where are the torrents?!
[12:03] <Alzi2_> Hey all... When is Edgy going to be released?
[12:03] <ehird> masser: yes it is
[12:03] <elliot> Now
[12:03] <MasseR> ehird: No it isn't. Anymore
[12:04] <Alzi2_> is it released?!
[12:04] <justthisguy> Alzi2_: you just missed it :)
[12:04] <ehird> Last time I heard the latest RC was different to Final
[12:04] <MasseR> 13:02:44 < lotusleaf> <tonyyarusso> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/  has non-RC ISOs!  Still waiting for announcement e-mail though.
[12:04] <rob> see /topic
[12:04] <osama> Alzi2_: Sometime in the near future
[12:04] <ehird> there we are
[12:04] <Habbie> why does the topic say edgy is released?
[12:04] <assasukasse> elliot says subkeys.pgp.net host not found
[12:04] <ehird> download started :D
[12:04] <Alzi2_> I think those are still RCs
[12:04] <ehird> alxi2_: not http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/
[12:04] <Alzi2_> are those RCs?
[12:04] <elliot> Can someone help assasukasse update his PGP keys for the ubuntu repositories
[12:04] <guyo> monad:
[12:05] <elliot> for edgy
[12:05] <ehird> not http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/
[12:05] <Alzi2_> ok
[12:05] <MasseR> 13:01:30 < bianconeri> are we where?
[12:05] <MasseR> 13:01:58 < tfheen> I just pushed the button, so yes.
[12:05] <MasseR> So apparently edgy is out
[12:05] <Artemis3> ok the floodgates are open
[12:05] <osama> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[12:05] <Habbie> who is tfheen? :)
[12:05] <MasseR> At least I interpreted it that way
[12:05] <osama> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[12:05] <Artemis3> torrent time
[12:05] <upt1me> where is the torrent?
[12:05] <kihai> Where is the Edubuntu Download? Still not updated on edubuntu.org...
[12:05] <Artemis3> torrent everyone :)
[12:05] <ajmitch> Habbie: release master for edgy
[12:05] <eXistenZ> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso != RC ?
[12:06] <Artemis3> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[12:06] <assasukasse> elliot it worked now..
[12:06] <elmargol> jigdo :D
[12:06] <xzk> lets all paste the same exact link at the same exact time: READY GO!
[12:06] <ehird> why are you doing the -alternates?
[12:06] <ehird> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso :p
[12:06] <elliot> assasukasse: OK GREAT :) happy edgy day and if you have more questions feel free to ask
[12:06] <exhale-away> ehird: because desktop sucks
[12:06] <Alzi2_> Are you sure those are the real released things and NOT rc's?
[12:06] <ehird> exhale-away: :p
[12:06] <neuro_> ehird: because -alternate ISOs are useful for doing net installs
[12:06] <neuro_> Alzi2_: yes, they're real
[12:06] <osama> 0 seeds
[12:06] <ehird> alzi2_: neither the page nor the filenames or descriptions says RC
[12:07] <ehird> they did before. therefore.
[12:07] <exhale-away> how do we know it isnt the RC?
[12:07] <xzk> which RC is it?
[12:07] <ehird> nice repeat question
[12:07] <ehird> xzk: no RC
[12:07] <xzk> RC3?
[12:07] <crimsun> exhale-away: because the release manager just released Edgy.
[12:07] <ehird> IT IS FINAL!
[12:07] <ivoks> exhale-away: by date
[12:07] <guyo> monad: the line you are interested in is the following "(EE) fglrx(0): Hardware already been locked."
[12:07] <kofwang> what's the difference between alternate and desktop?
[12:07] <osama> 0 seeds on the torrents
[12:07] <ehird> alternate is non-graphical install
[12:07] <Alzi2_> Well, if those are the finals.. why hasn't it been released yet?
[12:07] <exhale-away> kofwang: alternate is real text install
[12:07] <eXistenZ> I like alternate
[12:07] <crimsun> Alzi2_: it has. See the topic.
[12:07] <guyo> monad: i'm googling for it, i suggest you do the same
[12:07] <kofwang> thanxk
[12:07] <Alzi2_> WHA?!
[12:07] <mnepton> OK, fast torrent seeds are up.
[12:07] <MasseR> Alzi2_: Yes it is
[12:07] <GazzaK> kofwang~ desktop is the live cd, alt is the text mode installer type one
[12:07] <crimsun> thanks, mnepton :)
[12:07] <ehird> i prefer desktop as alternate installs have never worked before for me
[12:08] <mnepton> BT users should have fast access to Edgy
[12:08] <Alzi2_> but on the download page it says 6.06
[12:08] <ehird> not because i'm a dumb luser :p
[12:08] <rob> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/
[12:08] <ehird> alzi2_: wait for it to update, or, http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[12:08] <AlexC_> Hold on, where are the links to the non RC ones?
[12:08] <ehird> alexc_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/
[12:08] <Alzi2_> elkbuntuYea i'm downloading it ^^
[12:08] <Alzi2_> ehird*
[12:08] <ehird> bneuro_: how? o_O
[12:08] <rwscold> is this official?
[12:08] <crimsun> rwscold: yes.
[12:08] <AlexC_> thanks
[12:08] <Nookie> what are the big differences between edgy and dapper?
[12:08] <gh0st>  @ANYONE with linux java 32bit installed:: can anyone send me "libjavaplugin_oji.so" (should be found trough search), or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.? please. (it's the java plugin for mozilla 32bit, i need the one for 32bit to wrap with nspluginwrapper). i just need this one very file for my amd64.
[12:08] <ehird> nookie: plenty
[12:08] <kofwang> how do i upgrade to 6.10 using ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso ?
[12:09] <monad> guyo: on it, thanks
[12:09] <randomi> I'm getting rejected by the tracker.... any ideas?
[12:09] <Alzi2_> Nookie: Lots. Speed, new technologies, better multimedia support. Kick-ass-ness!
[12:09] <xzk> kofwang: burn to disk
[12:09] <|Bot|> mikl# http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4611/
[12:09] <Nookie> okej... then ill update =)
[12:09] <elkbuntu> ack
[12:10] <elkbuntu> sorry gyys
[12:10] <monad> guyo: maybe i should rmmod fglrx
[12:10] <neuro_> tee hee
[12:10] <Alzi2_> ....
[12:10] <Alzi2_> Nookie: Also, Edgy is booted in less than 7 seconds
[12:10] <rwscold> anyone know a mirror in the US??
[12:10] <LookTJ> yay!
[12:10] <elkbuntu> stupid stupid keyboard!
[12:10] <randomi> I'm getting rejected by the tracker.... any ideas?
[12:10] <ehird> exciting times
[12:10] <LookTJ> edgy out!!
[12:10] <windu> you don't need the xserver-xorg-driver-i810 driver now, but the xserver-xorg-video-i810
[12:10] <ehird> randomi: do an ftp/hyyp download
[12:10] <ehird> *http
[12:10] <Lard-O-Lad> im having tracker troubles too!
[12:10] <exhale-away> the server is going to get killed ;(
[12:10] <windu> I had this problem and X.org didn't found my screen ><
[12:10] <kliklik> gh0st: Check the private messages.
[12:11] <osama> exhale-away: that's why we want to use bittorrent
[12:11] <IndyBC> apokryphos: :)
[12:11] <zircx> hey guys, erm, interesting state of affairs here, apparently I've tried to install java 5.0 as instructed on the website but I keep getting a 'can't do reply' because of multiverse situation and it seems to fail on the repository with some of the files..
[12:11] <neuro_> hmm ... "Failure: Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker"
[12:11] <tim--> oh.. it's out?  i missed that...   better jump on that torrent
[12:11] <gh0st> klikli: i did not receive anything, but thanks if you want to help me! finally
[12:11] <ehird> 199KB/sec here, stupid adsl
[12:11] <Alzi2_> Guys, are the docs updated, too?
[12:11] <gh0st> kliklik: i did not receive anything, but thanks if you want to help me! finally
[12:11] <ehird> err
[12:11] <Alzi2_> I mean.. new guide and stuff?
[12:11] <kliklik> neuro_: the same problem here
[12:11] <ehird> 119KB/sec :p
[12:11] <C-O-L-T> I can not see any change on the main page http://www.ubuntu.com
[12:11] <mikl> where is edgy at...
[12:11] <dholmes> Is the torrent working for anybody?
[12:11] <bianconeri> Ok now its officially out...I run sudo apt-get upgrade it says its up to date...I have been running edgy since yesterday...so no changes since then??
[12:11] <xzk> paste the torrent
[12:11] <ehird> C-O-L-T: yes... it takes a while to update
[12:11] <neuro_> i'm getting some peers over DHT tho
[12:11] <rwscold> 308KB/sec
[12:11] <Nookie> is it safe to update from dapper to edgy now?
[12:11] <assasukasse> well, i wonder, if edgy is out, why my apt-get upgrade doesn't get anything?
[12:11] <neuro_> which means i'll be seeding over DHT
[12:11] <randomi> Seems as though a lot of people are getting problems with the tracker
[12:12] <osama> torrent is DHT, some peers, 0 seeds ....
[12:12] <osama> 0%
[12:12] <Lard-O-Lad> 315 KB/s
[12:12] <neuro_> assasukasse: did you update your repositories to use edgy instead of dapper?
[12:12] <dholmes> There we go!
[12:12] <C-O-L-T> ehird: can I upgrade then now from dapper?
[12:12] <Alzi2_> I'm downloading from the main site
[12:12] <ehird> C-O-L-T: probably?
[12:12] <IndyBC> So, now, if we upgrade to edgy, we will get the stable official release?
[12:12] <assasukasse> neuro_ i am already on edgy RC
[12:12] <Artemis3> yes, fellow azureus users, but we need a seed using azureus too :P
[12:12] <tim--> where is the torrent guys?
[12:12] <JoseStefan> IndyBC, yes, it's official now
[12:12] <elliot> if you download by HTTP your still getting 686kb/s for now
[12:12] <kdean06> I've a question for anyone intimiatly familiar with Debian packaging, anyone here fit that?
[12:12] <gh0st> kliklik: quickly join #private-temp ;-)
[12:12] <IndyBC> JoseStefan: ok, thanks. I 'm off for upgrade! :)
[12:12] <IndyBC> ;)
[12:13] <warpforge> To all curious parties: The official release is the 25th's daily snapshot
[12:13] <xzk> kdean06: intimately?
[12:13] <Mukunda> Is edgy actually out now?
[12:13] <Artemis3> ok the first who downloads it via http open the torrent in azureus to seed us
[12:13] <zircx> oh everyones upgrading to edgy already
[12:13] <neuro_> Artemis3: i'm already seeding over DHT
[12:13] <Artemis3> thanks
[12:13] <Shadowpillar_> 56k ftl
[12:13] <elliot> I will have a torrent up in about 5mins, won't be official
[12:13] <ehird> can we just change the topic to "YES, EDGY IS RELEASED: <links>"
[12:13] <neuro_> elliot: if you use a torrent client that supports DHT, the official torrent will be fine
[12:13] <Artemis3> seems the tracker got hammered eh?
[12:13] <speedy> whats ubunutu-6.10-alternate?
[12:13] <neuro_> tracker prolly hasn't been updated yet
[12:13] <elliot> neuro_: name one
[12:14] <xzk> are you guys addicted to new version and updates/upgrades as much as me?
[12:14] <dirmass> RELEASED!!!
[12:14] <neuro_> elliot: azureus, uTorrent
[12:14] <exhale-away> alternate=text cd install, more options. doesnt have livecd
[12:14] <Shadowpillar_> speedy: IIRC, it doesn't load a livecd
[12:14] <dirmass> WOOOP
[12:14] <zircx> erm okay so dist-upgrade is the way to go?
[12:14] <oyvinhoi> Is there any program to create a floppy image of a folder on a harddrive?
[12:14] <rwscold> i am trying with azurues with no luck
[12:14] <Alzi2_> xzk: YAYAYAAYAYAYA!!!!
[12:14] <dholmes> I using the latest uTorrent and it's not really working for me
[12:14] <osama> i'll try to download http and then seed ?
[12:14] <Shadowpillar_> exhale-away: does it provide packages?
[12:14] <upt1me> 400KB/s
[12:14] <JoseStefan> for upgrade instructions /msg ubotu upgrade
[12:14] <C-O-L-T> how to upgrade to edgy
[12:14] <rwscold> there are no seeders!
[12:14] <dholmes> Well, it's started working (very slowly) but I still have an error from the tracker
[12:14] <Artemis3> Alzi2_, Xena?
[12:14] <exhale-away> Shadowpillar_: not shure what you mean here
[12:14] <elliot> Will be soon as possible
[12:14] <MasseR> So no go to tracker with rtorrent? -.-
[12:14] <agutierr> someone has the direct link to 6.10 release ?
[12:14] <mnepton> BITTORRENT USERS: it takes a little time for the tracker to sync. be patient.
[12:14] <zircx> JoseStefan: thanks man
[12:14] <kdean06> xzk, When editing a control file (dh_make) I'm aware you can use pipes to specify multiple packages ot meet the dependancy, but is it pissible to specify both an & as well as a | in a single entry? I'm packaging something that requires a working php install on Apache, but php4 or 5 work, AND apache and apache2
[12:14] <Shadowpillar_> exhale-away: aka, you download it, burn it, and can upgrade all major packages from it
[12:14] <xzk> where are you guys download it from
[12:14] <osama> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[12:14] <upt1me> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/
[12:15] <LookTJ> thanks
[12:15] <neuro_> dholmes: i'm seeding at 50KB/s quite happily atm
[12:15] <eXistenZ> Does shipit offer edgy cds yet?
[12:15] <dholmes> Yeah, it's starting to pick up now
[12:15] <ehird> http://directrix.org/screens/1.png sneaky ubuntu insult detected :O
[12:15] <mnepton> eXistenZ: never will
[12:15] <GazzaK> eXistenZ~ no, and they will not
[12:15] <MasseR> ehird: Afaik it wont even support
[12:15] <dholmes> Up to 20
[12:15] <visik7> are there mirrors ?
[12:15] <Shadowpillar_> exhale-away: instead of from repositories like the livecd version, or have to wipe your system
[12:15] <MasseR> eXistenZ: that is
[12:15] <eXistenZ> mnepton, never?
[12:15] <guyo> monad: follow method 2 of the following guide: worked flawlessly for me and other people reports success in fixing your same error message: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[12:15] <visik7> !mirror
[12:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:15] <visik7> !mirrors
[12:15] <mnepton> eXistenZ: correct
[12:15] <neuro_> dholmes: in fact you're leeching from me :>
[12:15] <eXistenZ> mnepton, No more shipit? :(
[12:15] <JoseStefan> i'm getting 10kb/s out of 80kb cap
[12:15] <C-O-L-T> !upgrade
[12:15] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:16] <dholmes> neuro_, ;)  I'll be seeding later (with my meager bandwidth)
[12:16] <elliot> Can someone tell me how to join the torrent to seed after I have my HTTP downloaded?
[12:16] <monad> guyo: thanks, will try
[12:16] <oyvinhoi> Is there any program to create a floppy image of a folder on a harddrive?
[12:16] <Lard-O-Lad> g'nite guys, its been fun! (i'll be sure to seed, once the tracker comes up)
[12:16] <dirmass> who keeps changing the main page, the new release photo keeps dissapearing
[12:16] <guyo> monad: good lucl
[12:16] <guyo> monad: good luck
[12:16] <kanpachi> is this the final ver of edgy? it dates back to yesterday
[12:16] <elliot> yeah
[12:17] <C-O-L-T> how to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[12:17] <LookTJ> 698 MB is big
[12:17] <kanpachi> so why is the date 25-10-06?
[12:17] <apokryphos> C-O-L-T: /msg ubotu upgrade
[12:17] <osama> oyvinhoi: you still use floppies?   cp to copy files
[12:17] <MasseR> C-O-L-T: Change all the dapper texts from sources.list to edgy
[12:17] <xipietotec> So is Feisty out yet? *hides from the ops*
[12:17] <terrablebyte> Sorry if this has already been answered, but will Edgy include all the drivers and features for the macbook?
[12:17] <harry> is it easy to install eclipse on ubuntu 6.06 than from 5.10 breezy
[12:17] <rob> xipietotec: yes
[12:17] <MasseR> Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:17] <rob> bah no!
[12:17] <visik7> terrablebyte: features ?
[12:17] <xipietotec> lol =)
[12:17] <rwscold> how are we sure this is the final??? i dont get it the main site doesnt even show it
[12:17] <guyo> harry: eclipse 3.1 is dead easy to install on dapper
[12:17] <andy> hi, how do i tell if an image is the final release of edgy or an older one?
[12:17] <Alzi2_> xipietotec: Huh? Out?
[12:17] <snowblink> rwscold, it was announced - see topic
[12:18] <MasseR> rwscold: Yes we are sure. It doesn't have "RC" in it does it?
[12:18] <Alzi2_> Time to ask Da Adminz!
[12:18] <rwscold> we have seen those on mirrors for hours without rc
[12:18] <zircx> well hump a humpback whale i've got to wait for these damn downloads to finish before i can upgrade
[12:18] <randomi> I'm still being rejected from the torrent. Anyone else still having this issue?
[12:18] <kanpachi> so edgy was released yesterday??
[12:18] <terrablebyte> e.g two finger scrolling, iSight drivers
[12:18] <Peter77> hi, when will the final release of edgy be available?
[12:18] <MasseR> kanpachi: Today
[12:18] <Peter77> not yet
[12:18] <elliot> now
[12:18] <Alzi2_> Peter77: It's out.
[12:18] <tim--> randomi, yes
[12:18] <neuro_> Peter77: it's out
[12:18] <Artemis3> in was released a couple of minutes ago
[12:18] <Alzi2_> Check da topic
[12:18] <Peter77> how come it's not on the site?
[12:18] <justthisguy> what size is the final release iso? 698.4 M?
[12:18] <CarinArr> going to be a fun day
[12:18] <woekele> http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu/edgy/ just changed all the -rc builds to normal builds. So Im guessing its out :)
[12:19] <kanpachi> so how come when i try to d/l it, it says 25-10-06?
[12:19] <harry> guyo: so that means i dont need to the stuffs that this link tells me https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE
[12:19] <Alzi2_> Peter77: Still not updated.
[12:19] <Peter77> oh
[12:19] <LookTJ> peter77: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[12:19] <Peter77> so if I upgrade my edgy beta now it will upgrade to final release?
[12:19] <randomi> kanpachi, it depends on server time when those files were uploaded
[12:19] <neuro_> kanpachi: because it's released slightly early to mirrors
[12:19] <kanpachi> oh
[12:19] <kanpachi> kewl!
[12:19] <thoreauputic> kanpachi: possibly the CD was built yesterday
[12:19] <kanpachi> thanx
[12:19] <osama> http speed going dooooooown.
[12:19] <marx71> I am still seeing RC!! When would the final version be released? What time?
[12:19] <kyja> woohoo front page wants me to dl 6.10
[12:19] <neuro_> kanpachi: then when the release happens, the files are switched over so there's no missing files on mirrors
[12:19] <rackerz> marx71 do you use IE?
[12:19] <elliot> osama: mines still at 700kbs
[12:19] <ivoks> marx71: http://www.ubuntu-hr.org/ubuntu-releases/6.10/
[12:20] <C-O-L-T> I am upgrading to Edgy Eft cooooooollllllll
[12:20] <Drac|Radio> What are some good music apps like Amarok that are very user-friendly? I'm building a radio computer to sell on eBay and I want it to be easy to use.
[12:20] <guyo> harry: simply use universe and multiverse repositories and do a : apt-get install sun-java2-sdk eclipse
[12:20] <stromp> how do i upgrade?
[12:20] <apokryphos> stromp: /msg ubotu upgrade
[12:20] <tim--> anyone got a working torrent yet?
[12:20] <kdean06> Drac|Radio, I'm a fan of Banshee. It fits well with gnome
[12:20] <C-O-L-T> stromp: run the update manager
[12:20] <Alzi2_> Drac|Radio: Rhytmbox, Muine, Banshee.
[12:20] <ehird> why isn't http://www.ubuntu.com/include/circle610.jpg a png? ;)
[12:20] <osama> 238k > ~120k > 42k > 38.6k
[12:20] <marx71> you still need to run update-manager with -c -d?
[12:20] <zircx> I wonder if they'll have the firefox plugins installed into the latest firefox release
[12:20] <elliot> Yeah, mines begining to drop, still riding high though
[12:21] <rob> anyone getting rejected by the torrent tracker?
[12:21] <LookTJ> someone put http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ in topic please?
[12:21] <neuro_> rob: yes, everyone
[12:21] <rob> oh dam
[12:21] <ThePizzaKing> marx71: Only with -c
[12:21] <guyo> harry: my advice, edit /etc/eclipse/java_home to use SUN's JVM and lastly use update-alternatives to use SUN's VM and compiler
[12:21] <apokryphos> LookTJ: why? Upgrade info is more useful
[12:21] <ehird> i still say the whole topic should just be "YES, EDGY IS RELEASED, STOP ASKING! LINKS: <links go here>"
[12:21] <neuro_> rob: if you can use DHT with your client, you'll pick up some seeds, including myself
[12:22] <Mukunda> ehird: I can't see it anywhere.
[12:22] <rob> neuro_: cheers!
[12:22] <dholbach> ehird: I doubt everybody reads the topic ;)
[12:22] <ehird> mukunda: thus why we need the topic replaced with screaming caps
[12:22] <Mukunda> ehird: sorry, see it now.
[12:22] <Shadowpillar_> Hey, is edgy released yet? *bricked* :P
[12:22] <xipietotec> ehird: I got rob a few minutes ago =)
[12:22] <neuro_> although i have a horrible feeling i'm the only seed right now :>
[12:22] <Peter77> I'll upgrade ubuntu edgy rc and see if it upgrades to the final release
[12:22] <elliot> neuro_:I am working on it!
[12:22] <apokryphos> Peter77: with update manager or dist-upgrade? Either of those methods should get you final
[12:22] <Yancho|BNC> Hi, I was just offered a sponsor of a server having AMD 3200 64bit / 1GB ram .. I would like to run some game servers. What version of Ubuntu do you suggest please? It will be used remotely.
[12:22] <cge> neuro_: I might download it from a mirror and then seed it.
[12:22] <monad> guyo: it's really weird.
[12:22] <neuro_> cge: good call
[12:22] <guyo> monad: what
[12:23] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: Edgy server.
[12:23] <tim--> i'm still getting 'rejected y tracker' 'not authorised' etc
[12:23] <Peter77> yeah, i'm just going to use synaptic and select "mark all upgrades"
[12:23] <mnepton> neuro_: you are not the only seed. guaranteed.
[12:23] <Yancho|BNC> Alzi2_ lemme search what is edgy
[12:23] <monad> guyo: logging in as user, starting X gets loads of API error messages from fglrxinfo, logging in as root still has mesa
[12:23] <neuro_> mnepton: well no seeds are showing up here
[12:23] <newbie> Hi guys!
[12:23] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: The new ubuntu release. It has just been released.
[12:23] <monad> guyo: and i have to add that the guy working on this machine always logs in as root
[12:24] <monad> i know that's f**** up
[12:24] <ehird> it was just released... 10 minutes ago :p
[12:24] <rackerz> monad, fglrx drivers aren't working correctly in edgy
[12:24] <kal> how can i update drapper to edgy without formatting ?
[12:24] <rackerz> last time i checked
[12:24] <Yancho|BNC> Alzi2_ a ok its just a new name of ubuntu right ?
[12:24] <Peter77> oh crap ubuntu has crashed
[12:24] <monad> not using edgy
[12:24] <kal> where can i find a sources.list updated ?
[12:24] <guyo> monad: start from scratch building the kernel module and follow the guide, i had zero problems with that
[12:24] <Peter77> well it won't let me click on anything
[12:24] <mvo> Peter77: you may want to use the update-manager for this, run gksu "update-manager -c"
[12:24] <apokryphos> monad: language please :)
[12:24] <mdz> kal: follow the uprgade instructions
[12:24] <monad> guyo: that
[12:24] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: No, a new version.
[12:24] <apokryphos> kal: check the /topic for instructions
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> Don't forget to digg the release so everyone hears about it - http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_6_10_Actually_Released
[12:24] <guyo> monad: took me less than 10 minuts
[12:24] <monad> guyo: that's exactly what i did
[12:24] <guyo> who...
[12:24] <Yancho|BNC> oki Alzi2_ :) and what does it have with it ?
[12:24] <monad> guyo: right now, i just rebooted
[12:24] <guyo> monad: u're fast :-)
[12:24] <Peter77> mvo: I would but after ubuntu booted it won't let me click anything
[12:24] <justthisguy> kal: just change all the dapper s to edgy , then run sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:24] <kal> haha indeed, didn't saw the link ;p
[12:24] <monad> guyo: o' course.... ;-)
[12:24] <lypsis> hate it - still waiting for xubuntu ;)
[12:25] <kanpachi> don't mean to be too rude, but how can you REALLY sure it's final?
[12:25] <ehird> lypsis: you could install xfce and uninstall gnome after installing ubuntu
[12:25] <Shadowpillar_> so if it's busted, or something doesn't work, I can sit back comfortably with my still-working system
[12:25] <newbie> I found out that synaptic ain't in Breezy; how can I install it?
[12:25] <monad> guyo: as i told you, it's not the first time i'm configuring direct rendering and i've had worse than radeon
[12:25] <mikl> Shadowpillar_: I've been tryin' it fir months
[12:25] <apokryphos> kanpachi: sorry?
[12:25] <ehird> kanpachi: official statements and the lack of any "RC" indicators everywhere?
[12:25] <kanpachi> !topic
[12:25] <ehird> and the official page updating to show it official?
[12:25] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[12:25] <elliot> newbie: it is
[12:25] <monad> guyo: that's why i'm so puzzled
[12:25] <Peter77> oh crap I ust had t force a shutdown
[12:25] <kanpachi> well
[12:25] <guyo> monad: i see ... ...
[12:25] <lypsis> ehird: yeah i know, but i prefer the "official" integrated version you know :)
[12:25] <kanpachi> what official statements ? and daily builds never have rc
[12:25] <guyo> monad: upgraded xorg and the like to latest versions ?
[12:26] <godmachine81> mmk
[12:26] <kanpachi> even the daily one after the rc didn't have Rc
[12:26] <ehird> lypsis: well i'm gonna trash kubuntu for this
[12:26] <ehird> especially because of the lack of build-essential
[12:26] <monad> guyo: just upgraded to dapper three days ago, everything should eb up to date
[12:26] <apokryphos> kanpachi: official statements in here. And we're not going on daily builds -- see ubuntu.com
[12:26] <mdz> kanpachi: "Ubuntu 6.10 is released" <- official statement :-)
[12:26] <ehird> which i need to compile modem drivers
[12:26] <ehird> so i can't just apt-get it
[12:26] <guyo> yup, definitely
[12:26] <newbie> but I get: $ synaptics
[12:26] <newbie>  \n bash: synaptics: command not found
[12:26] <mikl> Ubuntu.com links to 6.10 now :D
[12:26] <lypsis> ehird: didn't try it yet
[12:26] <godmachine81> NEW!! sources.list with extras for edgy!!! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28403/
[12:26] <elliot> newbie: synaptic
[12:26] <justthisguy> newbie: no s
[12:26] <kanpachi> oh right!
[12:26] <kanpachi> kewl thanx
[12:26] <Sp4rKy> hi
[12:26] <apokryphos> kanpachi: quite official when it comes from Ubuntu CEO =)
[12:27] <Alzi2_> YESSSSS!!
[12:27] <newbie> gosh!
[12:27] <guyo> monad: does the user you use belong to the hw accel group ?
[12:27] <monad> guyo: but there was one weirdness... i apt-get remove kdm, because i don't want a graphical login manager, and ever since the kde session of my user is pretty fucked up
[12:27] <rob> ah the download page on he site is updated!
[12:27] <newbie> sorry..
[12:27] <monad> guyo: the main user is root--- it's my weird professor's machine
[12:27] <elliot> newbie: np!
[12:27] <newbie> I'm going to hide..
[12:27] <speedy> anyone got edgy yet? :)
[12:27] <Peter77> fuck it's done it again
[12:27] <rackerz> the iso's on the releases page show the 25th, not 26th?
[12:27] <elkbuntu> !language
[12:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:27] <elliot> newbie: don't worry about it! I have done worse
[12:27] <apokryphos> Peter77: language, please :)
[12:27] <monad> guyo: so as root, kde looks pretty, whereas as a user, kde looks strange
[12:27] <AlexC_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ is 100% Edgy Final?
[12:27] <guyo> monad: use a plain user and make sure he is in the "video" group
[12:28] <newbie> :-)
[12:28] <apokryphos> monad: could you expand for us in #kubuntu ?
[12:28] <rob> nice, over 1000 users in here!
[12:28] <godmachine81> speedy:: a bunch of us have edgy
[12:28] <monad> apokryphos: that apocryphous... whaddaya mean?
[12:28] <Daviey> is there any difference between kubuntu and (ubuntu + kde)
[12:28] <godmachine81> jeez
[12:28] <mikl> Edgy is teh nice
[12:28] <randomi> rackers, that's when they were uploaded to the servers but not when they were released
[12:28] <godmachine81> there is a lot of users in here
[12:28] <Peter77> is there a shortcut to log out
[12:28] <elkbuntu> rob, jumped 50 in the past hour
[12:28] <Sp4rKy> please, i want know where gdm looks for the window manager lists
[12:28] <apokryphos> monad: it's a KDE problem, so let us know about it in #kubuntu
[12:28] <rob> elkbuntu: nice
[12:28] <hmu> folks, I uninstalled ubuntu-desktop, but now apt-get doesn't want to re-install it anymore. what's the catch?
[12:29] <monad> apo: oh, sure... but i guess it's got nothing to do with kde directly
[12:29] <mikl> hmu: give us error messages or give us death ;)
[12:29] <apokryphos> hmu: doesn't want to install it? What's the error?
[12:29] <speedy> i ran update-manager and the speed isnt stable going up and down
[12:29] <speedy> to upgrade to edgy
[12:29] <osama> aptitude is upgrading ....
[12:29] <hmu>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed
[12:29] <apokryphos> monad: sounds like it does
[12:29] <hysua> ive finished the ISO download, anyone got an torrents I can join to seed? (desktop-i386 ISO)
[12:29] <xzk> paste a torrent
[12:29] <xzk> i cant find one
[12:29] <mikl> hmu: then try apt-get'in xorg
[12:29] <Alzi2_> hmu: If I were you, I'd reinstall/.
[12:29] <apokryphos> hmu: is that the full output? Could you pastebin the full output?
[12:29] <holycow_> Amaranth, *ping*
[12:29] <randomi> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[12:30] <Peter77> can anyone help me, I think gnomes crashed
[12:30] <neuro_> all the torrents are in http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/
[12:30] <kal> What is the difference between alternative and desktop version ?
[12:30] <Alzi2_> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[12:30] <dholbach> hmu: what happens if you do      sudo apt-get install xorg    ?
[12:30] <Alzi2_> the new download site.
[12:30] <thee> will installing from iso upgrade from dapper or make a new installation?
[12:30] <apokryphos> kal: check the FAQ
[12:30] <lnostdal> Congratulations ppl. :)
[12:30] <randomi> kal, alternative has no gui
[12:30] <justthisguy> kal: alterneate isnt a livecd iirc
[12:30] <guyo> monad: to sort out kde related problems, stop gdm/kdm and start x with xinit as a regular user (belonging to the video group)
[12:30] <elliot> Peter77: If you're sure its crashed uses ctrl+alt+backspace but only if your sure
[12:30] <kal> okay
[12:30] <khaije1> WAHOO!
[12:30] <snowblink> Peter77, CTRL+ALT+F2
[12:30] <hmu> http://pastebin.ca/222511
[12:30] <Peter77> well it won't let me click on anything
[12:30] <snowblink> Peter77, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:31] <Peter77> it seems to happen after the network-manager has logged me into my wireless network
[12:31] <Peter77> this has never happend before
[12:31] <elliot> Peter77: while doing what (and ctrl+alt+backspace does the samething snowblink)
[12:31] <dholbach> hmu: what happens if you do      sudo apt-get install xorg    ?
[12:31] <apokryphos> hmu: ok, how did this problem come about, and... what happens if you try to install just xorg?
[12:31] <godmachine81> Peter77:: what network card?
[12:31] <Peter77> netgear
[12:31] <snowblink> elliot, only if you haven't disabled that "feature". ;)
[12:31] <rackerz> thanks randomi.
[12:31] <assasukasse> elliot i was wondering, if i delete my root partition and just leave my home partition, and reinstall edgy final, would the problem be solved?
[12:31] <Peter77> WG511T
[12:31] <xzk> is it possible to install Edgy over Dapper.. or how do I do it?.. Burn Edgy to a CD and reinstall everything?
[12:31] <stojance_> Can someone help me with gnome dock?
[12:31] <Peter77> I'm going to try KDE
[12:32] <godmachine81> Peter77:: sorry im not familiar with that specific card, but some cards dont work with network-manager
[12:32] <elliot> assasukasse: ask on the channel - I wouldn't reccomend it - I think it would destroy your system#
[12:32] <hmu> apokryphos: libmesa-* dependancies
[12:32] <Peter77> it works
[12:32] <apokryphos> xzk: nope, you can update straight to it. See the link in the channel topic for info
[12:32] <snowblink> Peter77, you're on a laptop?
[12:32] <randomi> rakerz, no problem
[12:32] <laynor> Hi, Is there a way to install ubuntu without partitioning? I mean, with something like an HD file.
[12:32] <Peter77> I've used network-manager for over a week with no problems
[12:32] <hmu> apokryphos: I'm now trying to install libmesa stuff
[12:32] <godmachine81> Peter77:: it works and shows as a device, but it wont keep a connection?
[12:32] <apokryphos> hmu: are you on dapper? And, what do you have in your sources.list?
[12:32] <hmu> apokryphos: nope, edgy
[12:32] <godmachine81> haha
[12:32] <apokryphos> hmu: you've already upgraded to edgy?
[12:32] <godmachine81> sup fear
[12:32] <bmgz> are their any decent torrents yet for 6.10? all the ones iv'e tries are still empty
[12:32] <elliot> can someone give a torrent link
[12:32] <Fear_cult> now i see where youve disappeared to
[12:33] <assasukasse> thanks elliot :D
[12:33] <Fear_cult> lol
[12:33] <apokryphos> hmu: did you dist-upgrade? You really should have the ubuntu-desktop metapackage before upgrading, otherwise you're going to encounter problems.
[12:33] <justthisguy> xzk: change all the dappers in your /etc/apt/sources list to edgy, then run sudo aptitude update and then sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:33] <hmu> apokryphos: yeah... I uninstalled ubuntu-desktop a couple of weeks ago after I had upgraded to edgy
[12:33] <randomi> elliot, desktop/server/alternate?
[12:33] <godmachine81> yep
[12:33] <apokryphos> hmu: and you did a dist-upgrade without having -desktop?
[12:33] <elliot> radomi: alternative
[12:33] <Fear_cult> vmware*
[12:33] <guyo> anyone can confirm it is normal that the dist-upgrade to edgy wants to uninistall my ubuntu-desktop metapackage ^
[12:33] <godmachine81> you need to
[12:33] <elliot> randomi: alternative
[12:33] <guyo> ?
[12:33] <randomi> elliot,http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[12:33] <xzk> apokryphos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades     ?
[12:33] <godmachine81> haha
[12:33] <apokryphos> xzk: yes
[12:33] <Fear_cult> i know
[12:34] <hmu> apokryphos: nope, the dist-upgrade was _before_ then, but I think I did a couple of dist-upgrades afterwards (but I don't think that really matters)
[12:34] <d-E-u-S> ca somebody help me to setup my wlan card?
[12:34] <marx71> what is this ubuntu-desktop problem?
[12:34] <hmu> ok, I installed some libmesa packages, then xorg, then ubuntu-desktop (and a shitload of other packages) are installing
[12:35] <randomi> mnepton, any reason why I'm still being rejected from the torrent? I've already got it downloaded but trying to seed.
[12:35] <jyoungxx> hey guys I don't have the nvidia-glx-config command in my system for enabling my nvidia
[12:35] <halok> 0
[12:35] <marx71> cross and uncross till it works!!
[12:35] <Yancho|BNC> Alzi2_ : is Edge Ubuntu 6.10 ?
[12:35] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: Yup.
[12:35] <godmachine81> these people wouldnt listen
[12:35] <newbie> bye! thnx
[12:35] <godmachine81> they thought there was gonna be last minute updates
[12:35] <Yancho|BNC> thanks :)
[12:35] <elliot> randomi: How do I join the torrent and use my HTTP downloaded file to mirror it?
[12:35] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: NP ^^
[12:35] <godmachine81> i told them last night go ahead and grab the rc that it was done
[12:35] <godmachine81> but they didnt listen :(
[12:35] <Fear_cult> lol
[12:35] <Fear_cult> why grab anything
[12:35] <Fear_cult> its apt based
[12:35] <Fear_cult> dist-upgrade
[12:35] <dholbach> guyo: use      gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[12:35] <Fear_cult> and use kernel.org its fast as hell
[12:35] <laynor> Fear_cult, has it an acceptable speed under WMWare? I ony have access to a friend pc and don't want to partition it.. though i don't want to use windows!
[12:35] <tonyyarusso> !edgytorrents is http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-{alternate,desktop,server}-{amd64,i386,powerpc}.iso.torrent
[12:35] <Fear_cult> i dunno laynor i dont have it installed
[12:35] <godmachine81> ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso              25-Oct-2006 15:10
[12:35] <Fear_cult> im running fc6
[12:35] <godmachine81> i posted a link to that 10 hrs ago
[12:35] <Alzi2_> laynor: There's always the live CD.
[12:35] <godmachine81> heh
[12:35] <Fear_cult> laynor, im sure it would though
[12:35] <Alzi2_> laynor: AND USB stick Linux (DamnSmallLinux. Damn i love that thing)
[12:35] <godmachine81> but they wanted that "official"
[12:35] <Daviey> godmachine81, your admiting that your been infront of IRC for 10 hours+?
[12:35] <Alzi2_> whoa
[12:35] <Alzi2_> flood
[12:35] <elliot> can someone name me a good torrent client?
[12:35] <laynor> Alzi2_, yes, but I need a lisp installation, with bells and whistles
[12:35] <apokryphos> hmu: it does matter.
[12:35] <Fear_cult> vmware is pretty good about running semi-close to actual installed speed
[12:35] <Yancho|BNC> Alzi2_ and the install does it have a "wizard" type of install? like freebsd ?
[12:36] <godmachine81> Daviey:: i been in front of irc for years
[12:36] <godmachine81> haha
[12:36] <JoseStefan> !torrent > elliot
[12:36] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: Yes. But much better, actually ;)
[12:36] <godmachine81> just ask Fear_cult
[12:36] <Fear_cult> me too godmachine81 but this is still a hellalotta peepz
[12:36] <Yancho|BNC> hehe oki that would be great :)
[12:36] <laynor> Alzi2_, this usb-stick thing sound interesting
[12:36] <Fear_cult> hell ive been on irc for like 10ish years
[12:36] <jyoungxx> !nvidia
[12:36] <randomi> elliot, open up the torrent and pick the location of where you saved it as the location for the download. It will verify the download and then begin seeding it.
[12:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:36] <Vogeltje> Is Edgy official now?
[12:36] <Daviey> godmachine81, i have a thin client for IRC in the toilet!
[12:36] <Alzi2_> laynor: Sure is. Kind of hard to get working, though.
[12:36] <hmu> apokryphos: have i disrupted the "matrix"?
[12:36] <godmachine81> lol
[12:36] <tonyyarusso> mnepton: I'm getting "Tracker: [Failure reason "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."] " on the i386 server torrent, fyi.
[12:36] <godmachine81> Fear_cult:: i think this is the most ppl i ever seen in a room
[12:36] <neuro_> hmf, could do with some DHT seeds on the torrent, I still can't see any seeds
[12:36] <Alzi2_> Guys, will Edgy feature updates with new features?
[12:36] <tim--> torrent just started working.. \o/
[12:36] <elliot> randomi: thanks
[12:36] <apokryphos> hmu: indeed =). You'll have to play around a lot, and you *may* have mucked up your PM system
[12:36] <Peter77> hmm it seems to crash when network-manager finds a network
[12:36] <Fear_cult> yeah i think so too godmachine81
[12:37] <neuro_> and i now have 34 people trying to leech off me :)
[12:37] <Rookie_> nice - almost 1100 users ...
[12:37] <Mehrdad> !ef >mehrdad
[12:37] <Fear_cult> godmachine81, cept like porn/warez chans on efnet/dalnet back in the day
[12:37] <godmachine81> oh yea
[12:37] <elkbuntu> neuro_, i hope you have a high bandwidth allocation
[12:37] <randomi> Nice, add me to the seed list :-D
[12:37] <neuro_> i only have 800Kbps up
[12:37] <Fear_cult> godmachine81, did you get your desktop back?
[12:37] <neuro_> and i've only allocated 512Kbps to seed
[12:37] <Yancho|BNC> Alzi2_ and to update i use aptget right ?
[12:37] <godmachine81> i know that in #dvbfta on irc.dishnewbies.tv there was about 600 ppl at one time waiting for a dishnet fix
[12:37] <teckfatt> Daviey: your toilet is so cool
[12:37] <Schalken> oooh
[12:37] <neuro_> aha
[12:37] <neuro_> 4 seeds now
[12:37] <godmachine81> Fear_cult:: hell no
[12:37] <Vogeltje> jeah edgy release finally: with edgy beta I had problem with ati x800 video: does anyone now if its fixed?
[12:37] <Vogeltje> 
[12:38] <neuro_> yay, tracker working!
[12:38] <hmu> apokryphos: Crap.
[12:38] <randomi> seeding desktop and alternate
[12:38] <guyo> dholbach: i'm doing a plain apt-get dist-upgrade (don't like update-manager stuff) as reported on the wiki page about upgrading...
[12:38] <randomi> Will be seeding server shortly
[12:38] <per> is there any prog for ubuntu that can shutdown the pc after 1 hour ?
[12:38] <guyo> what i don't understand is if it is normal that it has marked ubuntu-desktop for deletion
[12:38] <trukulo> per, at ?
[12:38] <guyo> per: sudo shutdown -h 60
[12:38] <LookTJ> I'm gonna host edgy release on my server
[12:39] <Kennebel> per: you could use "at".
[12:39] <per> thanks :)
[12:39] <trukulo> well, guyo idea is better
[12:39] <guyo> :-)
[12:39] <per> thanks guys
[12:39] <guyo> use it a lot :-)
[12:39] <elkbuntu> godmachine81, Fear_cult please take off-topic converstion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:39] <Mehrdad> where can I get edgy ISO via HTTP?
[12:39] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: gksu "update-manager -c"
[12:39] <tonyb2006> happy mayhem day!!
[12:39] <godmachine81> NEW!! sources.list with extras for edgy!!! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28403/
[12:39] <Fear_cult> elkbuntu, "heres a spoon so you can eat my ass"
[12:39] <godmachine81> yea
[12:39] <godmachine81> smart move elkbuntu
[12:39] <SoftIce> does anyone have issues with asterisk startup scripts on ubuntu?
[12:39] <laynor> Thanks, I'll go with wmware first, and then if it's too slow I'll go for the usb-stick thing
[12:39] <godmachine81> that was a guaranteed ubuntu user
[12:39] <wily> i need to know when 6.10 become official
[12:39] <godmachine81> not that you give a damn
[12:39] <Alzi2_> laynor: You can run USB stick linux from within VMWARE, too.
[12:39] <osama> wily: it is
[12:39] <Schalken> is it just me or was edgy just released?
[12:39] <Daviey> yes sir
[12:39] <Yancho|BNC> Alzi2_ okis great :) .. and one last question :) - to assign an ip is it hard? and make it resolve to a dns : server.mepa-clan.eu.org ?
[12:39] <osama> Schalken: it's all of us
[12:39] <elliot> Schalken: IT is released
[12:39] <Alzi2_> laynor: The USB stick will be bootable and contains a linux distro. You can run it in qemu/vmware too, then.
[12:39] <SoftIce> Schalken today?
[12:39] <godmachine81> Schalken:: its been out for 10 hrs
[12:39] <bianconeri> So after updating my /etc/apt/source.list and sudo apt-get update --->sudo apt-get upgrade ---< sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ...i should be set??
[12:39] <hmu> apokryphos: I think there ought to be more warnings about removing the ubuntu-desktop package if it is going to break something. Atleast, the command-line dist-upgrade should behave like the gui dist-upgrade (ie. exit with a falure)
[12:39] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: THere is a settings dialog for that, not too hard to find :)
[12:39] <SoftIce> how big is the upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[12:39] <Mehrdad> is edgy DVD ISO available?
[12:40] <zircx> holy screen move batman...
[12:40] <Yancho|BNC> more nice :) im already loving it hehe :))
[12:40] <apokryphos> hmu: we warn people all over the place, but hey :)
[12:40] <dholbach> guyo: it will take care of a lot of quirks and make it easier
[12:40] <zircx> 466 files?
[12:40] <guyo> dholbach: i'll take your word for it :-)
[12:40] <zircx> interesting..
[12:40] <apokryphos> hmu: removing ubuntu-desktop isn't *always* bad, you just always need it with your upgrades
[12:40] <guyo> dholbach: thanks
[12:40] <dholbach> guyo: it ROCKs :)
[12:40] <naaronbo> Is edgy final released????????????????????????
[12:40] <wily> it is not in official repository
[12:40] <randomi> naaronbo, check the topic
[12:41] <zircx> Yancho|BNC: any obvious differences?
[12:41] <wily> i don't see it
[12:41] <apokryphos> naaronbo: check the topic: yes.
[12:41] <dholbach> naaronbo: YES REALLY!!!!11!!1!!11!!!11!11!!!1!!
[12:41] <laynor> Alzi2_, yeah, but there is no problem about using the hd, it's just that I don't want to partition it, so I'll go with an hd file ^^
[12:41] <apokryphos> =)
[12:41] <dholbach> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-October/thread.html
[12:41] <Zic_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[12:41] <godmachine81> wily:: the same iso i posted about 10 hrs ago is the same iso everyone is going crazy over now
[12:41] <ajmitch> dholbach!!!
[12:41] <dholbach> hiya ajmitch!
[12:41] <Mehrdad> where's edgy DVD?
[12:41] <godmachine81> valehru:: did i or did i not tell these folks a long time ago that it was already done
[12:41] <Yancho|BNC> zircx from what ?
[12:42] <monad> guyo: ok, so i completey reinstalled the xserver and kde
[12:42] <zircx> well I guess dapper to edgy
[12:42] <ajmitch> mnepton: btw, are you coming to MV?
[12:42] <zircx> or edgy RC to edgy final
[12:42] <ehird> can't wait for my download to finish :D
[12:42] <ehird> only... 1 hour to go.
[12:42] <cge> godmachine81: They have the same md5sum?
[12:42] <guyo> monad: stop gdm/kdm, get a shell as a simple user that is member of "video" group, and launch xinit
[12:42] <godmachine81> elkbuntu:: what did you just ban fear_cult for?
[12:42] <zircx> I thought that would have been a given... since we're talking about upgrading to edgy
[12:42] <godmachine81> cge:: yes
[12:42] <elkbuntu> godmachine81, his unwelcome attitude
[12:43] <lotusleaf> is there a final for an Edgy DVD ISO or is the DVD just the daily dvd (like this: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/)
[12:43] <Alzi2_> can't wait for my download to finish :(
[12:43] <vernes> question: has anyone heard of problems with ubuntu where the contrast dropped a bit further every time they play a movie? I've been told it might be a driver bug.
[12:43] <monad> guyo: how do i stop kdm in this system? is there some rc script?
[12:43] <hkl8324> I downloaded the iso and inserted the burned cd into a drive.....it still say 6.06 on the windows menu bar...it is a "bug"?
[12:43] <laynor> Alzi2_, though I don't know what to download from the vmware website, can you give me a hint?
[12:43] <guyo> monad: /etc/init.d/[kg] dm stop
[12:43] <Alzi2_> vernes: Maybe a screensaver bug?
[12:43] <bianconeri> So after updating my /etc/apt/source.list and sudo apt-get update --->sudo apt-get upgrade ---< sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ...i should be set??
[12:43] <elkbuntu> godmachine81, it's usually a tad stupid to insult an op trying to keep peace and a channel on-topic
[12:43] <yakumo> pls help regarding qdvdauthor
[12:43] <Alzi2_> laynor: Well, to run Linux from USB stick you gotta learn to use Qemu.
[12:43] <vernes> Alzi2_: I have screensaver disabled
[12:43] <dholbach> bianconeri: use       gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[12:43] <zircx> bianconeri: , try it and see how it goes?
[12:44] <zircx> bianconeri: , I don't think they would put instructions up there just to entertain people.
[12:44] <yakumo> anyone familiar with qdvdauthor?
[12:44] <Alzi2_> laynor: Qemu is an emulator, like vmware. But you can also reboot and run your Linux directly from the USB stick
[12:44] <voltz> anyone can tell me why #ubuntu+1 is invite ?
[12:44] <coNP> do you know, when feisty will be started?
[12:44] <ajmitch> coNP: "soon"
[12:44] <JoseStefan> dholbach, it should no longer require the -d
[12:44] <laynor> Alzi2_, I want to run ubuntu from a traditional HD file, stored in hd
[12:44] <rob> voltz: because edgy is released
[12:44] <[NikO] > voltz, edgy is released
[12:44] <Alzi2_> laynor: The neat thing is that you can save your settings and files to the USB stick. AKA it's a pocket computer :)
[12:44] <dholbach> JoseStefan: ah, maybe yes, yeah :)
[12:44] <tonyyarusso> coNP: Probably withina couple of days to a couple of weeks.
[12:44] <coNP> voltz: I think, because there is no feisty yet, and edgy has been released
[12:44] <chuckyp> Lol #ubuntu+1 is invite only.
[12:44] <timhaughton> OK. My first Edgy question - how to I upgrade a Dapper Server? The apt-get method for upgrade says I have to have the Desktop installed.
[12:45] <chuckyp> timhaughton, do you ahve a window manager installed?
[12:45] <tonyyarusso> timhaughton: Have ubuntu-minimal installed instead
[12:45] <spanglesontoast> is there an issue with dapper not installing properly on laptops I looked at the /var/log/messages and it said failed to specify to /dev/hda^M
[12:45] <apokryphos> timhaughton: make sure you have ubuntu-server installed
[12:45] <timhaughton> OK thanks guys
[12:45] <JoseStefan> timhaughton, ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard, not sure if there is more
[12:45] <chuckyp> spanglesontoast, well they changed to uuid instead of the /dev/hda format
[12:45] <apokryphos> actually, I think that metapackage was thrown out, one sec
[12:45] <cge> dholbach: Everyone keeps saying that, but I can't find any solid information on what update-manager actually does that is different from dist-upgrade, which I greatly prefer.
[12:45] <vernes> Alzi2_: correction, screensaver is not disabled. but Just tested it with it disabled. problem continues.
[12:45] <spanglesontoast> ?
[12:45] <voltz> Im using edgy eft,I can upgrade edgy with apt-get ..correct ?
[12:46] <JoseStefan> !info ubuntu-server dapper
[12:46] <ubotu> Package ubuntu-server does not exist in dapper
[12:46] <spanglesontoast> so is there something important I need
[12:46] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Seems true here
[12:46] <chuckyp> voltz, you should use update-manager -c -d
[12:46] <Alzi2_> vernes: K. Then i don't know
[12:46] <Adriano> will -alternate run with 64 mb RAM?
[12:46] <spanglesontoast> to do during install
[12:46] <dholbach> cge: it makes sure that any quirks you'd have to resolve manually are just done for you
[12:46] <apecat> hmm, what's all this then: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:46] <apokryphos> voltz: yes, make sure you have ubuntu-desktop before dist-upgrading.
[12:46] <ehird> adriano: are you sure you can run gnome with those specs?
[12:46] <dholbach> voltz: gksu "update-manager -c"
[12:46] <chuckyp> apecat, try again in a momment could be a load on the repos
[12:46] <ehird> or ubuntu for that matter
[12:46] <Alzi2_> Adriano: Wow.. that's not much.... I'd install Xubuntu for that
[12:46] <apecat> chuckyp: heheh ok
[12:46] <zircx> cge; they're both pretty much the same, they do the same job, one's gui front end the other isn't..well that's what I tend to believe..
[12:46] <godmachine81> b950a4d7cf3151e5f213843e2ad77fe3  == MD5sum for desktop ISO...  Oct 26 00:57:11 <godmachine81>  http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[12:46] <Adriano> ehird: -alternate, meaning no X
[12:46] <ehird> i'd use damn small linux
[12:46] <Yancho|BNC> apokryphos i can download ubuntu 6.10 straight away right ?
[12:46] <godmachine81> i guess ppl will learn to listen
[12:46] <chuckyp> voltz, yeah i'm sorry you no longer need the -d switch
[12:46] <chuckyp> Yancho|BNC, yes
[12:47] <osama> Need to get 719MB of archives. After unpacking 139MB will be used.
[12:47] <apokryphos> Yancho|BNC: straight away? Do you already have Xubuntu dapper installed?
[12:47] <godmachine81> compare those md5sums
[12:47] <Alzi2_> ehird: I love damn small linux on my USB! ^^
[12:47] <AlexC_> Hey Guys, I have 2 Hard Drives - 1 with WinXP on and the other I am plaing on putting Edgy on. Will Ubuntu automaticaly add the WinXP hard drive to GRUB?
[12:47] <voltz> I have ubuntu-desktop yes, Im new to this so I dont understand gksu "update-manager -c"
[12:47] <spanglesontoast> mostly says failed to create file system
[12:47] <AlexC_> and will my data on WinXP hard drive be safe?
[12:47] <Yancho|BNC> apokryphos no its a new server
[12:47] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Channel traffic stats still going strong :)
[12:47] <ehird> voltz: heard of the terminal?
[12:47] <ehird> ;)
[12:47] <xopher> oh, its released ;)
[12:47] <Adriano> I successfully installed debian sarge, but if I can have 2 ubuntu PCs, better
[12:47] <Rookie_> test and try ...
[12:47] <elkbuntu> xopher, yes :)
[12:47] <JoseStefan> voltz, you put that in ALT+F2 dialog box
[12:47] <apokryphos> voltz: just type alt+f2 -> then enter the command
[12:47] <chuckyp> alex_ubuntu, it should if not you can always add the xp drive to the grub menu
[12:47] <Alzi2_> AlexC_: Yes.
[12:47] <frying_fish> AlexC_: yes, it will, and yes it will be sage
[12:47] <chuckyp> alex_ubuntu, !grub
[12:47] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: nice 8)
[12:47] <frying_fish> *safe, so long as you don't decide to delete it.
[12:47] <zircx> voltz; follow the instructions and you can't go wrong, it's pretty much a,b,c
[12:47] <voltz> ehird, yes, that would be where I learnt apt-get ;)
[12:47] <chuckyp> !grub > alex_ubuntu
[12:47] <voltz> thanks folk
[12:47] <apokryphos> Yancho|BNC: then just download and burn the ISO, sure.
[12:48] <monad> guyo: check this out... when i login as a normal user, run xinit or startx and then fglrx, i get this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/OrOwzo77.html
[12:48] <AlexC_> chuckyp: you mean AlexC_ hehe
[12:48] <Yancho|BNC> and to burn it on a cd rom - any specific changes? or just burn with nero [windows user here] 
[12:48] <AlexC_> !grub -> AlexC_
[12:48] <chuckyp> AlexC_, yeah sry
[12:48] <chuckyp> !grub > AlexC_
[12:48] <chuckyp> AlexC_, you needed to lose the -
[12:48] <JoseStefan> tracker seems to be OK now
[12:48] <AlexC_> ahhh
[12:48] <mandelum> hello
[12:48] <osama> Yancho|BNC: just go ahead and burn image with nero/alcohol
[12:48] <Yancho|BNC> ok thanks osama
[12:48] <osama> or any other tool that supports iso
[12:49] <chuckyp> I'm going to dl the torrent just to seed it.
[12:49] <Peter77> ok I'm just upgrading everything in ubuntu
[12:49] <guyo> monad: lookin
[12:49] <spanglesontoast> HELP :|
[12:49] <chuckyp> Peter77, gksu update-manager -c
[12:49] <Peter77> ?
[12:49] <apokryphos> !helpme
[12:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:49] <spanglesontoast> how do I sort out this failed to create file system issue
[12:49] <Peter77> whats the difference?
[12:49] <JoseStefan> for upgrade instructions /msg ubotu upgrade
[12:50] <Noxville> hey ppl... on dapper, whats the minimum install size?
[12:50] <dholbach> Peter77: be sure to use quotes.                 gksu "update-manager -c"
[12:50] <osama> torrents are working now....
[12:50] <monad> guyo: i'm still unsure, whether it's ok that the fglrx MODULE is still loaded, depending on agpgart
[12:50] <zircx> now, I'm guessing that with the gksudo method that the files that failed to download will attempt to redownload at some point before it goes into installation mode correct?
[12:50] <apokryphos> Noxville: average install is around 1.8 gigs
[12:50] <Peter77> I just clicked mark all upgrades in synaptic
[12:50] <mandelum> someone wants to help me install whitout cd, I am trying to do the floppy install, but I am stuck with fdisk
[12:50] <dholbach> chuckyp: don't forget the quotes
[12:50] <osama> Main download page updated
[12:50] <apokryphos> mandelum: there's other -- better -ways to do it still. /msg ubotu install
[12:50] <chuckyp> wth no torrent?
[12:50] <Peter77> whats wrong with just using synaptic?
[12:50] <JoseStefan> Peter77,  that will probably just give you the latest dapper, not edgy
[12:51] <Peter77> I'm using edgy rc 1
[12:51] <JoseStefan> Peter77, that's different ;)
[12:51] <apokryphos> Peter77: for upgrading? If you have ubuntu-desktop installed then you can use synaptic or apt-get to upgrade just fine
[12:51] <dholbach> Peter77: ah ok - that should be fine then
[12:51] <ehird> soon, i shall run gparted, nuke my dead linux partition (it randomly breaks - see my forum topic The Demon Start Screen), make another, and install edgy! yay!
[12:51] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. I have been using xinerama to run 4 monitors off two dual head cards. It was sluggish so I'm trying TwinView. I've got the main card and two middle monitors running PERFECT now, but I'm not sure.. can TwinView run two cards/4 monitors?
[12:51] <JoseStefan> Peter77, regular upgrades from any beta version will result in the final version
[12:52] <Peter77> so as I already have edgy I can use synaptic to get the latest edgy upgrades :-)
[12:52] <apokryphos> indeed
[12:52] <mvo> :)
[12:52] <Vogeltje> :)
[12:52] <voltz> latest version of edgy will be Ubuntu version 6.10 ?
[12:52] <Noxville> whats the ubuntu package repository link  again...?
[12:53] <dholbach> voltz: it is :)
[12:53] <marx71> voltz: latest version already is!!
[12:53] <mandelum> apokyphos: I have read all thoose, they are very complicated, and I found the floppy thing to be maybe the best, should I use the live or alternate install?
[12:53] <zircx> can someone confirm on an upgrade from dapper that they've got 466 packages or are there more?
[12:53] <bimberi> Noxville: archive.ubuntu.com
[12:53] <apokryphos> Noxville: archive.ubuntu.com
[12:53] <Vogeltje> Ok im gonna download Edgy: official report on ubuntu.com :)
[12:53] <voltz> thanks again all those tha answered :)
[12:53] <hmu> apokryphos: it worked ;-)
[12:53] <guyo> monad: i've a solution candidate
[12:53] <hmu> apokryphos: rebooting now
[12:53] <Noxville> whats the command to update my sources of repositories?
[12:53] <Tidus> Vogeltje, you can upgrade in place...
[12:54] <bimberi> Noxville: sudo apt-get update
[12:54] <JoseStefan> for upgrade instructions /msg ubotu upgrade
[12:54] <Tidus> Noxville, gksudo "update-manager -c -d" will do it all automatically
[12:54] <mandelum> apokryphos: I have read all thoose, they are very complicated, and I found the floppy thing to be maybe the best, should I use the live or alternate install?
[12:54] <marx71> i am upgrading to edgy!! already downloaded 783 packages out of a total of 1199 that i need!!
[12:54] <JoseStefan> the -d is no longer required, -d stands for development version
[12:54] <zircx> oh damn.. weird
[12:54] <guyo> monad: put this file ( http://www.ground-impact.com/libGL.so.1.2 ) in place of the one in /usr/lib/
[12:54] <justthisguy> Shadowpillar_: why?
[12:54] <zircx> i wonder why I'm only getting 466 at the moment
[12:54] <RawSewage> what happened to #Ubuntu+1
[12:54] <guyo> monad: backup it first obviously
[12:54] <boink> so .. how are the edgy servers holding out today?
[12:55] <fabio> hi to all
[12:55] <Tidus> RawSewage, ubuntu+1 has been locked because edgy has been released
[12:55] <boink> #ubuntu+1 would now be for feisty
[12:55] <RawSewage> oh cool
[12:55] <RawSewage> when was it released
[12:55] <zenlinuxNH> I'm getting "urlopen error" when trying to start the torrent download.
[12:55] <marx71> just now
[12:55] <monad> guyo: you think it's got sth to do with libGL?
[12:55] <apokryphos> mandelum: you can use tab for autocompletion of nicks in IRC, by the way. So what was the problem again, you can't use the CD?
[12:55] <RawSewage> good timing.  I just woke up
[12:55] <guyo> monad: take this link
[12:55] <Shadowpillar_> justthisguy: to make sure things go smoothly for most people, and because the servers will be bogged down, also, I use many unofficial repos that won't be upgraded for a few days
[12:55] <marx71> you woke up to a new dawn!!
[12:55] <guyo> monad: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185033
[12:56] <RawSewage> lol
[12:56] <monad> guyo: ok thanks
[12:56] <justthisguy> Shadowpillar_: use a torrent, that way you can help :)
[12:56] <Noxville> problem... when booting off live cd, the intro music plays.. then the video go's fked up and my power button on my monitor flashes....
[12:56] <Vogeltje> Tidus: i just want to do a clean install
[12:56] <guyo> monad: seems like a bug that occurs with the 9200 and not with the 9600 (that i have)
[12:56] <guyo> :-)
[12:56] <fabio> i have a problem with the sound system , sometimes at the START of the sesssion it function , sometimes no  ...i try to restart the alsa system but this not resolve the problem...do you have an idea??? :-)
[12:56] <guyo> monad: if it works, you'll owe me your immortal soul
[12:57] <zenlinuxNH> oh well... at least the ftp site is giving me 300 kb/sec. :)
[12:57] <RawSewage> Is this the one most peope want:  kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[12:57] <Noxville> problem... when booting off live cd, the intro music plays.. then the video go's fked up and my power button on my monitor flashes....
[12:57] <Noxville> problem... when booting off live cd, the intro music plays.. then the video go's fked up and my power button on my monitor flashes....
[12:57] <JoseStefan> !repeat
[12:57] <Shadowpillar_> justthisguy: also, 56k, though I may remedy this with a wifi card
[12:57] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:57] <mandelum> apokryphos: I have read all thoose, they are very complicated, and I found the floppy thing to be maybe the best, should I use the live or alternate install?
[12:57] <guyo> Noxville, choose a lower res for the installation
[12:57] <monad> guyo: should i replace it only in /usr/lib/dbg/libGL.so.1.2 or in /usr/lib/dbg/i686/mmx/cmov/libGL.so.1.2, too?
[12:58] <guyo> should be in /usr/lib/
[12:58] <apokryphos> mandelum: I'm really not sure of the method for installing for floppy, but the alternate would most likely be a safer bet
[12:58] <guyo> not in /usr/lib/dbg
[12:58] <Noxville> guyo: i tried.. but my monitor supports upto 1280x1024...
[12:58] <t0taln00b> hi all
[12:58] <t0taln00b> howdy
[12:58] <apokryphos> hello :)
[12:58] <guyo> monad: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[12:58] <chuckyp> Okay seeding both alternate and desktop i386 variant
[12:58] <t0taln00b> :)
[12:59] <voltz> busy night tonight heh
[12:59] <monad> guyo: ok thanks.
[12:59] <guyo> Noxville: yup, but probably not at the refresh rate that the installer is using
[12:59] <Mehrdad> so there's no DVD available for edgy yet?
[12:59] <chuckyp> Mehrdad, no need for a dvd
[12:59] <guyo> monad: please let me know if it works
[12:59] <Noxville> guyo: how can i make fixes...
[12:59] <mandelum> apokryphos: Well, I will use that then, thanks, I have problems finding a proper fdisk tutorial on the net, could I just put cfdisk on a floppy and use that?
[12:59] <vernes> anyone else notice the screen contrast dropping after playing a movie?
[12:59] <krpano> is it possible to set the terminal window dimesion by default ?
[12:59] <guyo> Noxville: don't remember how, but you should check the istructions early in the boot phase
[12:59] <Noxville> ~samba
[01:00] <apokryphos> mandelum: I wouldn't think there'd be too much of a difference there, but I can't be sure.
[01:00] <Mehrdad> chuckyp, my internet connection doesn't work on ubuntu, I prefer the DVD to install packages
[01:00] <Noxville> thanks guyo..
[01:00] <Yancho|BNC> apokryphos am i understanding well that after i install ubuntu (edge) i need to download alot of things over the internet ?
[01:00] <UziMonkey> I can't connect to the tracker :(
[01:00] <Noxville> ...
[01:01] <apokryphos> Yancho|BNC: not a lot, but perhaps a few depending on what you need. All very easy to do, of course.
[01:01] <Vogeltje> btw is there a GAIM 2.0 beta 4 .deb for ubuntu?
[01:01] <monad> guyo: kudos to you... it works
[01:01] <gnomefreak> Yancho|BNC: no different than you had to on dapper
[01:01] <guyo_afk> monad: happy about it
[01:01] <Noxville> is kde for ubunut on the version 6.06 LTS disk?
[01:01] <trukulo> no
[01:01] <mandelum> apokryphos: fdisk is too difficult for me, do you know of any floppy distro that has cfdisk?
[01:01] <Yancho|BNC> apokryphos since its gonna be a game server - nothing much i think .. just install bash and then run the servers .. and thats it
[01:01] <gnomefreak> Vogeltje: god only knows what people have made but there will not be one for edgy
[01:01] <YogSothoth> Hi!
[01:01] <Mehrdad> how can I open CHM files with ubuntu?
[01:01] <apokryphos> Noxville: nope, you need to get kubuntu. http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[01:02] <chuckyp> Mehrdad, How are you trying to connect to the net?
[01:02] <apokryphos> mandelum: nope. Quite ancient :P
[01:02] <bianconeri> How does one remove USB devices from the desktop:S...without unmounting them of course:D
[01:02] <monad> guyo: many thanks. still around 660 fps on fgl_glxgears - that ain't much, is it?
[01:02] <Mehrdad> using IPW UMTS modem (driver: ipw)
[01:02] <irc-user> how can I easily do a printscreen?
[01:03] <DarkFlib> you tried pressing the printscreen key?
[01:03] <JoseStefan> lol
[01:03] <apokryphos> Yancho|BNC: I think (!) apache comes on the disk; bash of course does. See /msg ubotu apache for instructions
[01:03] <vorbote> Mehrdad: activate the universe repository and install gnochm
[01:03] <YogSothoth> I found gworldclock to display time in multiple timezones at the same time. But I'd love to find the same but integrated into GNOME Panel item. Do you know one?
[01:03] <Noxville> ahhh.. apokryphos; how big is that download... my web browser is dead...
[01:03] <kyja> umm, so I had updated a 6.0.6.1 to an edgy beta lat month and it realy messed up. can I update now??
[01:03] <Mehrdad> vorbote, thanks
[01:04] <apokryphos> Noxville: the usual, around 700 megs
[01:04] <brosen> can I only use the alternate image for upgrading from Dapper?
[01:04] <chuckyp> bianconeri, gconf-editor  apps>nautilus>desktop
[01:04] <Yancho|BNC> yes there is apokryphos
[01:04] <Noxville> ah,..
[01:04] <chuckyp> brosen, yes you can use alternate or desktop
[01:04] <irc-user> yes I did try the print-screen key but nothing happened
[01:04] <bimberi> brosen: if you want to use a CD, yes.
[01:04] <Noxville> apokryphos, can't i just install kde for ubunut tho' and update the window manager
[01:04] <vorbote> brosen: that's correct. Make sure to use the upgrade script in the root of the CD.
[01:04] <chuckyp> brosen, alternate iso is bigger just fyi.
[01:04] <jakubek> hello
[01:05] <jakubek> how can i update my ubuntu from breezy to edgy eft?
[01:05] <RawSewage> brosen, you dont have to use alternate
[01:05] <apokryphos> Noxville: you can very easily install kubuntu (i.e. KDE) from Ubuntu, sure.
[01:05] <bimberi> jakubek: upgrade to dapper first, then edgy
[01:05] <gnomefreak> jakubek: upgrade to dapper first
[01:05] <chuckyp> jakubek, gksu "update-manger -c"
[01:05] <irc-user> !printscreen
[01:05] <brosen> Ok, thanks everyone :-)
[01:05] <jakubek> ok, thanks
[01:05] <Kazuhiro> when ubuntu auto mounts a usb drive where is the folder structure on the filesystem?
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about printscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <apokryphos> jakubek: see /msg ubotu upgrade
[01:05] <RawSewage> jakubek, Fresh install is best
[01:05] <chuckyp> Kazuhiro, it should mount to /media/whatever
[01:05] <kyja> when will shipit be updated. =]  ?
[01:05] <apokryphos> RawSewage: either way is fine. If you've got many settings you want to preserve, dist-upgrading twice might be easier.
[01:05] <gnomefreak> kyja: it wont
[01:06] <xipietotec> whoever controls the bots should reprogram a @lart to hit anyone who asks "Is Edgy out?" for this point on =P
[01:06] <eXistenZ> kyja, never
[01:06] <Noxville> apokryphos, how big is just the kde... i've already got Gnome working...
[01:06] <Kazuhiro> chuckyp, thanks
[01:06] <eXistenZ> kyja, That's what mnepton said
[01:06] <chuckyp> Kazuhiro, or it may use a different system if you type df  or mount after its mounted you should be able to see
[01:06] <JoseStefan> for upgrade instructions /msg ubotu upgrade
[01:06] <eXistenZ> kyja, No more shipit
[01:06] <gnomefreak> kyja: shipit will only be shipping edgy to loco teams
[01:06] <apokryphos> Noxville: I'd say a few hundred megs
[01:06] <fabio> Hi to all :-) PROBLEM with the sound system , sometimes at the START of the sesssion it function , sometimes no  ...i try to restart the alsa system but this not resolve the problem...do you have an idea??? :-)
[01:06] <kyja> oh ic
[01:06] <zircx> for some reason it is much easier and quicker for me to download the iso and install as opposed to doing an upgrade
[01:06] <kyja> k
[01:06] <gnomefreak> kyja: they will be sending dapper other than that
[01:06] <zircx> interesting
[01:06] <Noxville> do you have a link for me?
[01:07] <apokryphos> Noxville: /msg ubotu kubuntu
[01:07] <kyja> thank you for that info.
[01:07] <bianconeri> chuckyp: there is no entries in the address you provided
[01:07] <chuckyp> !kubuntu > Noxville
[01:07] <eternity> hi, is there any possibility to upgrade to EE throught sudo, instead of reinstalling from iso? thx :-D
[01:07] <chuckyp> bianconeri, hold on let me find it real quick
[01:08] <chuckyp> !upgrade > eternity
[01:08] <eternity> throught apt-get ... srrz
[01:08] <luisbg> how can I change the name of a user? not the login, but the real name
[01:08] <kyja> someone must clearly will have a purchase program for these future releases. I like to hand out pressed copies because some people feel skiddish if your pushing them to try an os of some blank thing I burned myself.
[01:08] <justthisguy> luisbg: look in /etc/passwd?
[01:09] <chuckyp> bianconeri, sudo gconf-editor   then go to apps > nautilus > desktop >   Uncheck volumes visible
[01:09] <kyja> =] 
[01:09] <dholmes> luisbg, that's stored in the comment of the user, you should be able to change it with usermod -c
[01:09] <dholmes> See man usermod
[01:09] <kyja> ttyal
[01:09] <Ekinoks> Hi !
[01:09] <JoseStefan> luisbg, preferences, about me, should do it
[01:09] <dholmes> Or that
[01:09] <Adriano> luisbg: use System - Preferences- Users and groups
[01:09] <jakubek> updating ;-)
[01:09] <luisbg> thanks all for the help!
[01:09] <bianconeri> chuckyp: oddly the address you provided is empty
[01:10] <JoseStefan> luisbg, what Adriano said is better
[01:10] <chuckyp> bianconeri, it shouldn't be are you using kde?
[01:10] <bianconeri> no gnome
[01:10] <bianconeri> dont even have kde
[01:10] <chuckyp> bianconeri, what versoin of ubuntu?
[01:10] <luisbg> cool, thanks!
[01:10] <bimberi> luisbg: chfn
[01:10] <JoseStefan> System- Administration actually
[01:10] <bianconeri> just updated to Edgy:D
[01:10] <Adriano> right
[01:10] <Adriano> damn GUIs
[01:11] <chuckyp> bianconeri, it has to be there are you sure you clicked apps  then nautilus not just nautilus first or desktop first?
[01:11] <assasukasse> elliot__ what was the ubuntu apt source list generator url?
[01:11] <flabio> d
[01:11] <luisbg> to upgrade to edgy should I change the apt source and dist-upgrade or download the cd and reinstall the system (I have /home in a separate partition than /)?
[01:11] <chuckyp> !upgrade > luis_lopez
[01:11] <apokryphos> luisbg: check the channel topic please
[01:11] <NineTeen67Comet> Does anyone have a good dual video card twinview enabled xorg.conf I can take a peek at? I'm not so sure how to seperate both cards and all 4 monitors w/twinview (works sluggish with xinerama)..
[01:11] <chuckyp> !upgrade > luisbg
[01:11] <chuckyp> NineTeen67Comet, google twinview xorg.conf
[01:11] <JoseStefan> "update-manager" should be the best way
[01:12] <chuckyp> Yes update-manager is the best way
[01:12] <NineTeen67Comet> chuckyp: rodger .. been there done that, I'll seek "quad" maybe .. that might cover it more .
[01:12] <YoussefA1sad> wow, #ubuntu+1 is +i
[01:12] <jyoungxx> anybody had problems with nvidia-glx-config not enabling?
[01:12] <elliot__> assasukasse: www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:12] <apokryphos> YoussefA1sad: edgy is released now, so yes :)
[01:12] <assasukasse> elliot__ thanks
[01:13] <YoussefA1sad> apokryphos: I just might throw a tantrum :p
[01:13] <Noxville> k.. ppl. i read in an article that in the windows vista vs ubuntu war, ubuntu has a instant file searching application.. is this true?
[01:13] <chuckyp> NineTeen67Comet, well its pretty much the same thing you have devices then you have the screen section.
[01:13] <bianconeri> chhuckyp: I will upload a screenshot
[01:13] <apokryphos> Noxville: it's called beagle
[01:13] <apokryphos> works by indexing, pretty good
[01:13] <Noxville> oh yes..
[01:13] <chuckyp> bianconeri, k
[01:13] <jyoungxx> sure
[01:13] <Mr-SuisO> alguno habla espaol__??
[01:13] <apokryphos> !es
[01:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:13] <ProN00b> seriously, someone needs to make a tool to make the xorg.conf, setitng it up yourself sucks so hard
[01:13] <chuckyp> bianconeri, make sure you are using sudo as well.
[01:13] <vorbote> luisbg: don't dist-upgrade. Use "sudo update-manager -d" or use the upgrade script in the alternate CD.
[01:13] <justthisguy> apokryphos: how does beagle compare to slocate?
[01:14] <chuckyp> vorbote, its -c
[01:14] <apokryphos> ProN00b: kubuntu has a decent enough tool =)
[01:14] <jyoungxx> !nvidia
[01:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:14] <chuckyp> vorbote, -d is no longer needed that was for when it was beta
[01:14] <luisbg> vorbote, ok thanks! =)
[01:14] <apokryphos> justthisguy: a lot prettier, quicker too
[01:14] <ProN00b> apokryphos, it can't be decent if its kubuntu
[01:14] <boink> !edgy
[01:14] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:14] <bimberi> justthisguy: beagle searches the contents, not just filenames
[01:14] <vorbote> chuckyp: I do't recall, Been using Edgy for several months now, anyway.
[01:14] <justthisguy> ProN00b: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , easy :)
[01:14] <apokryphos> justthisguy: SUSE's menu integration with beagle is really great too. KDE might be adopting that by default for kde 4.x series, not sure about GNOME
[01:15] <ProN00b> justthisguy, yeah, and how do i set up multiple monitors to behave correctly ?
[01:15] <apokryphos> ProN00b: it really is.
[01:15] <chuckyp> !tell ubotu edgy is the current release version of Ubuntu.  Version 6.10, named "Edgy Eft".  For support head to #ubuntu.  For the release schedule, see !schedule
[01:15] <justthisguy> bimberi apokryphos thanks , I'll try it :)
[01:15] <co-NP> !schedule
[01:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:15] <Noxville> hey ppl.. whats the directt link to the xgl tarball so i can download it.. only this windows piece o crap has internet so i cant sudo apt-get...
[01:15] <ProN00b> apokryphos, well, kde is not decent, so anything just on kde can't be decent, can it ?
[01:15] <GNAM> DVD are out?
[01:15] <chuckyp> !ubotu edgy is the current release version of Ubuntu.  Version 6.10, named "Edgy Eft".  For support head to #ubuntu.  For the release schedule, see !schedule
[01:16] <justthisguy> GNAM: YEEESSSSS
[01:16] <ProN00b> what ?
[01:16] <apokryphos> ProN00b: please do not troll.
[01:16] <ehird> chuckyp: beat you to it :p
[01:16] <ProN00b> apokryphos, you are the troll for thinking kde is any good
[01:16] <bianconeri> chuckyp: http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b239/zambrota19/Screenshot-4.png
[01:16] <ProN00b> wtf
[01:16] <ehird> pron00b: hah
[01:16] <ProN00b> edgy out ?
[01:16] <boink> c'mon, no WM wars here
[01:17] <Noxville> hey ppl.. whats the directt link to the xgl tarball so i can download it.. only this windows piece o crap has internet so i cant sudo apt-get...
[01:17] <boink> heh
[01:17] <cge> boink: Of course not. TWM is obviously better than either :)
[01:17] <justthisguy> boink: bah, kde, twm, evilwm ftw!
[01:17] <ehird> i prefer X with no VM on top of it! *g*
[01:18] <chuckyp> bianconeri, are you using xgl?
[01:18] <cge> I appear to have forgotten how to pipe stderr in bash.
[01:18] <boink> <= still learning about gmone too
[01:18] <bianconeri> no
[01:18] <Adriano> cge: command 2> file
[01:18] <cge> Adriano: Err, I meant redirection
[01:18] <Adriano> that's redirection
[01:18] <chuckyp> bianconeri, I don't know thats just wierd.  I've never seen anythign like that.  It has to be configured in there.  Where its pulling its config is beyond me if its not using nautilus
[01:18] <Adriano> piping, I don'tknow
[01:18] <Nippoo> Is anyone here good at networking?
[01:19] <boink> !ask
[01:19] <cge> Adriano: Ah. I know 2| works in zsh, but it doesn't work in bash
[01:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:19] <chuckyp> !ask Nippoo
[01:19] <Nippoo> kk.
[01:19] <boink> just fire away ..
[01:19] <Nippoo> I've bought 5 extra static IPs and would like to route them to various computers. Now, I realize that my Netgear DG834G can't do static routing, so I'd like my Ubuntu server to do the job. However, the two are in different buildings (but they are on the same network). Do I need to have the two physically connected for the server to be able to route them (and do DNS, DHCP, NAT, etc...)?
[01:19] <bianconeri> so if i am using xgl that could be the problem? how could i find out, just in case? I don't recall me trying to install xgl on this box...
[01:19] <Adriano> cge: but do you actually want to pipe or to redirect?
[01:20] <cge> Adriano: pipe
[01:20] <Adriano> ok, let me get my Linux in a Nutshell
[01:20] <voltz> is there a command to show which version is running ?
[01:20] <bimberi> !version
[01:20] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[01:21] <ehird> edgy almost downloaded \o/
[01:21] <voltz> thanks bimberi
[01:21] <bimberi> voltz: np :)
[01:22] <bianconeri> how does one install a 686 kernel on edgy?
[01:22] <johnnytang24> Do dual core processors require a motherboard that supports it?
[01:22] <apokryphos> !linux-686
[01:22] <apokryphos> !info linux-686
[01:22] <chuckyp> bianconeri, linux-generic
[01:22] <johnnytang24> or is the correct socket type enough?
[01:22] <ubotu> linux-686: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:22] <chuckyp> !linux-generic
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-generic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <chuckyp> wow ubotu isn't switched over yet
[01:22] <cge> bianconeri: one doesn't
[01:23] <ayaa> hello
[01:23] <chuckyp> cge, bianconeri yes you can with linux-generic
[01:23] <Adriano> cbe: can't see it. The problem is, stderr is a file, not a dommand, so piping to it doesn't make much sense to me
[01:23] <apokryphos> chuckyp: Seveas has exclusive access to all the internals, and he's at work atm
[01:23] <ayaa> how to ge firefox2 on ubuntu from binaries
[01:23] <chuckyp> apokryphos, ahh
[01:23] <Adriano> cge: can't see it. The problem is, stderr is a file, not a dommand, so piping to it doesn't make much sense to me
[01:23] <chuckyp> ayaa, install edgy
[01:23] <bimberi> !info linux-generic edgy
[01:23] <ubotu> linux-generic: Complete Generic Linux kernel. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:23] <YogSothoth> I found gworldclock to display time in multiple timezones at the same time. But I'd love to find the same but integrated into GNOME Panel item. Do you know one?
[01:23] <chuckyp> bimberi, ty
[01:23] <bionoid> Adriano: what are you trying to achieve?
[01:23] <bimberi> chuckyp: yw
[01:23] <cge> chuckyp: But it isn't a 686 specific kernel, it will work with others as well.
[01:23] <Noxville> !ping
[01:23] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[01:24] <Noxville> !wtf
[01:24] <Adriano> bionoid: me, nothing. I was answering a question
[01:24] <ayaa> !edgy
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wtf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <chuckyp> I give up
[01:24] <ubotu> edgy is Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[01:24] <bionoid> Adriano: oh, ok :)
[01:24] <cge> Adriano: Err, stderr is the same as stdout in that respect.
[01:24] <chuckyp> !upgrade
[01:24] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:24] <apokryphos> !botabuse
[01:24] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[01:25] <compengi> ayaa, there is no mirrors for edgy =/
[01:25] <bianconeri> !linux-686
[01:25] <Adriano> cge: try command 2>| othercommand
[01:25] <ubotu> linux-686: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:25] <Noxville> whats the command to upgrade dapper to edgy
[01:25] <apokryphos> Noxville: please check the channel topic
[01:25] <Noxville> sorry.. long day...
[01:25] <hani> apokryphos: worked!
[01:25] <boink> !upgrade > Noxville
[01:26] <Noxville> cheers
[01:27] <Fracture> congratulations on the egsy release !!
[01:27] <YoussefA1sad> egsy?
[01:27] <Fracture> crap.. I can't type after a few glasses of wine
[01:27] <YoussefA1sad> heh, eggsy eft
[01:27] <Fracture> congratulations on the Edgy release !!
[01:27] <hani> YoussefA1sad: yo!
[01:27] <boink> but edgy isn't a LTS release, keep that in mind
[01:27] <ehird> Eggsy Eckt
[01:27] <YoussefA1sad> hani: LART
[01:28] <PecisDarbs> congrats guys with new release
[01:28] <hani> tee hee
[01:28] <Fracture> Ubuntu Egsy, linux for breakfast
[01:28] <hani> hvor er du?
[01:28] <ehird> Ugstu Eggsy Eckt 10.06
[01:28] <Fracture> lol
[01:29] <mnepton> Ubuntu Eggsy. It's a yolk, so laugh.
[01:29] <cge> Adriano: Hmm... it doesn't work. I'll just install zsh.
[01:29] <YoussefA1sad> haha
[01:29] <dsewnr_> My nautilus got error after I upgrade to Edgy, what's wrong?
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> mnepton: That server torrent is up fine now.
[01:30] <apokryphos> !torrents
[01:30] <ubotu> For torrent downloads of the Ubuntu ISOs see http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[01:30] <dsewnr_> I can't see any file on my desktop.
[01:30] <bimberi> apokryphos: cheers
[01:30] <ndlovu> are the alternate downloads available yet for Edgy? When I try to download one , it seems to only have release candidate isos.
[01:30] <jan_> could someone recommend a vpn program?
[01:30] <apokryphos> :)
[01:30] <zircx> half way there folks... yay..
[01:31] <Fracture> ndlovu: not all mirrors are sync'ed yet
[01:31] <alonz> does the tracker give valid responses for anyone? I get "HTTP Error 503". The torrent manages to start using DHT, but it's slow that way
[01:31] <jolt> how do i do an apt-upgrade to edgy
[01:31] <JoseStefan> ndlovu, try releases.ubuntu.com
[01:31] <zircx> 20 mins of downloading at 225Kbs
[01:31] <apokryphos> jolt: /topic
[01:31] <jolt> cant find the doc
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> Canada's mirrors are still waiting
[01:31] <ndlovu> Fracture, JoseStefan, thanks
[01:31] <bimberi> apokryphos: gah, the responsibilty :)
[01:31] <zircx> 20 more mins, 3 minutes of burning and 20 minutes of install..
[01:31] <MrKeuner> ? Cannot join #ubuntu+1 (Channel is invite only)
[01:31] <JoseStefan> alonz, it should speed up very soon
[01:32] <zircx> should be fun...
[01:32] <apokryphos> MrKeuner: Edgy is released; channel closed down.
[01:32] <MrKeuner> apokryphos: what about feisty? :)
[01:32] <alonz> JoseStefan: hope so :)
[01:32] <JoseStefan> MrKeuner, development hasn't started
[01:32] <apokryphos> MrKeuner: it doesn't exist yet
[01:32] <khaije1> anyone, where can i find torrents?
[01:32] <MrKeuner> OK
[01:32] <JoseStefan> !torrents > khaije1
[01:33] <RawSewage> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.10/
[01:33] <zircx> edgy just popped out of the box and we're already looking ahead to the next release lol
[01:33] <zircx> i find that very intriguing
[01:33] <tuskernini> question... has anyone had problems with flatscreen blinking once before starting any movie file?
[01:33] <RawSewage> Im not using Feisty until it comes out in April
[01:33] <khaije1> JoseStefan:  these are all the final releases right?
[01:34] <boink> final?
[01:34] <boink> meaning no more Ubuntu?
[01:34] <JoseStefan> khaije1, there are many files there, make sure you pick the right one
[01:34] <khaije1> as opposed to rc, boink
[01:34] <JoseStefan> khaije1, name should start with ubuntu-6.10    and not include and beta or RC remarks
[01:34] <boink> edgy has been officially released today
[01:34] <zircx> i forgot to ask, how does one find the server side if they run ubuntu as a server alone?
[01:34] <JoseStefan> any*
[01:34] <RawSewage> Ubuntu Edgy
[01:35] <leonel> OOOOOOOO  YES !!!  THANKS EDGY  on the streets !
[01:35] <khaije1> mkay thx JoseStefan, i'll bookmark this, v good to know
[01:35] <Nox_ville> hey again... whats a ubuntu equivalent of frontpage... need to make/edit websites...
[01:35] <JoseStefan> khaije1, alternativly you can find .torrent files on release.ubuntu.com
[01:35] <boink> bluefish?
[01:35] <det> Torrent link anyone? releases.ubuntu.com isnt responding
[01:35] <dfgas> !upgrade
[01:35] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:35] <tuskernini> nvu
[01:35] <RawSewage> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.10/
[01:35] <zircx> leonel: i take it you've upgraded..
[01:35] <tuskernini> frontpage... nvu
[01:35] <RawSewage> oh
[01:35] <JoseStefan> khaije1, correction releases.ubuntu.com
[01:35] <apokryphos> !html
[01:35] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[01:36] <RawSewage> its responding for me
[01:36] <dfgas> wow
[01:36] <Nox_ville> !nvu
[01:36] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[01:36] <RawSewage> oh yeah, sorry
[01:36] <RawSewage> I use Kubuntu
[01:36] <RawSewage> wrong channel
[01:36] <zircx> bluefish is great..
[01:36] <Nox_ville> where can i get a listing of the multiverse DVD disks that i downloaded
[01:36] <leonel> zircx: been with edgy since knot 3  no problems since then  and   now  to  do a clean install  with  edgy cds ..
[01:37] <zircx> leonel: ahh..
[01:37] <khaije1> JoseStefan: the torrent.ubuntu.com looks oddly unofficial...
[01:37] <JoseStefan> khaije1, that's just the tracker, it will list ALL files there including the older beta releases
[01:37] <zircx> leonel: been with dapper for 1 month now as a desktop.. enjoyed that muchly.. interested to see what edgy offers..
[01:37] <RawSewage> Omg noooooooo
[01:37] <mnepton> ok kids, i'm a dot. enjoy Edgy!
[01:37] <_lemsx1_> where are the release notes for Edgy?
[01:37] <RawSewage> my download has slowed to 40 kbps
[01:37] <RawSewage> damn you all
[01:38] <_lemsx1_> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/ ?
[01:38] <apokryphos> _lemsx1_: /topic
[01:38] <JoseStefan> khaije1, the final release IS there, but it's a lot easier to fetch the torrent file at releases.ubuntu.com/edgy
[01:38] <EthanG> Hi
[01:38] <khaije1> JoseStefan: some files w/ the same description is listed with different sizes... it's hard to know what to pick
[01:38] <RawSewage> I tried the torrent earlier but it didnt work
[01:38] <EthanG> I need help with Ubuntu Installation
[01:38] <leonel> zircx: cleaner  smoother  look      firefox 2  really  nice  upgrade
[01:38] <khaije1> JoseStefan: ok sounds good
[01:38] <apokryphos> !helpme
[01:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:38] <zircx> i find it interesting that ubuntu in general is so 'up with he play' on keeping things automated but yet you have to do manual installs for certain things.. to an extent.. of course..
[01:38] <ndlovu> RawSewage: I'm at 0.05 KB/s. at this rate I should download Edgy around the time Feisty is released...
[01:38] <zircx> firefox 2?.. wow..
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> RawSewage: Try running an http download alongside the torrent.  Best of both worlds.
[01:39] <RawSewage> ndlovu, lol
[01:39] <RawSewage> tonyyarusso, not if you have a limited 150 kbps bw
[01:39] <zircx> I like cleaner.. big fan of cleaner stuff..lol
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> RawSewage: true
[01:39] <Ekinoks> Can somebody how make a *.iso on a key USB to be boot after ?
[01:39] <Luna-Tick> Hi guys, where do I go to tell people that they have put a Norway mirror under New Zealand at http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[01:39] <timhaughton> gksu "update-manager -c" shows no updates. Is this to be expected?
[01:39] <det> On the tracker,(http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/), edgy-alternate-i386.iso is a different size than ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso. Any idea why?
[01:39] <EthanG> When I put in the Ubuntu disc, i press Start-install then it loads but the next ting is a black screen with an orange box
[01:40] <zircx> that norway link is a great one, I think that's where I'm downloading from lol
[01:40] <Nox_ville> where can i get a listing of the multiverse DVD disks that i downloaded
[01:40] <tuskernini> iso boot on usb... there is a howto to do this. on external drive
[01:40] <det> Edgy+1 is Fiesty?
[01:40] <EthanG> When I put in the Ubuntu disc, i press Start-install then it loads but the next ting is a black screen with an orange box
[01:40] <JoseStefan> timhaughton, is your current version fully updated?
[01:40] <EthanG> Help please!
[01:41] <tuskernini> EthanG: does the dapper desktop cd work?
[01:41] <timhaughton> JoseStefan: Yeah, but I'm just following the Edgy upgrade instructions - a server upgrade using apt-get went without a hitch
[01:41] <boink> !tell EthaG about ask
[01:41] <boink> !tell EthanG about ask
[01:41] <EthanG> What do you mean, the desktop CD? I downloaded the ISO desktop CD but then it just doesnt even bring up an install page
[01:42] <MattJ> Did you check the md5 of the iso?
[01:42] <EthanG> I'm a n00b
[01:42] <Ekinoks> Can somebody how make a *.iso on a key USB to be boot after ? there is you Shell doing that?
[01:42] <EthanG> I now have no PC or OS
[01:42] <EthanG> Which file should I download?
[01:43] <mchasard> hi
[01:43] <zircx> EthanG: how about if you went back to Dapper and then tried an upgrade using the disk?
[01:43] <mchasard> just saw that 6.10 is released ?
[01:43] <EthanG> I don't have any OS on my PC
[01:43] <EthanG> I need to instal Ubuntu
[01:43] <tuskernini> edgy !
[01:43] <tuskernini> edgy!
[01:43] <dte> Hello! I try to update to 6.10 but I get this error Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[01:43] <zircx> you don't have an dapper disk?
[01:44] <_lemsx1_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[01:44] <_lemsx1_> found them
[01:44] <mchasard> so what's new in this edgy ?
[01:44] <bruenig> all of the mirrors appear to be having problems. Anyone have a torrent?
[01:44] <RawSewage> oh there wasnt anything wrong with the torrent
[01:44] <det> torrent tracker is down
[01:44] <EthanG> I have an ISO Ubuntu 6.06
[01:44] <_lemsx1_> apokryphos: thanks. I figured that after asking ;-)
[01:45] <jan_> can somebody please tell me what the directory containing linux kernel source code is?
[01:45] <compengi> are there mirrors to download edgy final?
[01:45] <Alzi3> Hi. I have chosen the wrong keyboard map and now I can't change it ')... How to change it to U.S. english=
[01:45] <bruenig> nevermind I found it
[01:45] <RawSewage> http://au.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.10/
[01:45] <RawSewage> AHH
[01:45] <RawSewage> sorry
[01:45] <RawSewage> thats Kubuntu
[01:45] <Luna-Tick> Tehehe - no mirror issues here. I'm pulling down at full speed in New Zealand
[01:45] <Luna-Tick> (Not Norway...)
[01:45] <RawSewage> I cancelled my download at 50%
[01:45] <jan_> can somebody please tell me what the directory containing linux kernel source code is?
[01:45] <RawSewage> and switched to torrents
[01:45] <khaije1> what does the alternate actually mean in the file name?
[01:45] <zircx> EthanG: if you aint having any luck with edgy then roll back to dapper and try an upgrade using the edgy cd for the source?
[01:46] <zircx> I don't know whether it will work but it might yanno..
[01:46] <RawSewage> Torrents are a lot better now
[01:46] <compengi> rawrness, but i can't see any mirrors on the site =/
[01:46] <EthanG> How do I install Ubuntu 6.06????
[01:46] <tim--> i'm only getting 25k/s off the torrent :(
[01:46] <det> bruenig, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[01:46] <bimberi> !alternate | khaije1
[01:46] <ubotu> khaije1: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[01:46] <RawSewage> Torrents are faster, everyone
[01:46] <jan_> can somebody please tell me what the directory containing linux kernel source code is?
[01:46] <apokryphos> EthanG: if you're having problems with the Desktop CD, I suggest trying the alternate.
[01:46] <det> bruenig, use the imaging prefixes by ubuntu-6.10 and not edgy
[01:46] <dte> Hello! I try to update to 6.10 but I get this error Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[01:46] <EthanG> What's the download URL for the alternate?
[01:46] <awk> how safe is the upgrade from dapper to edgy net install?
[01:46] <zircx> 6 minutes and i can burn my cd.. yay
[01:46] <awk> \
[01:47] <khaije1> bimberi: so alternate is really normal, and desktop is fancy 0_o ?
[01:47] <apokryphos> dte: are you on dapper? Is that error with the update manager?
[01:47] <Luna-Tick> jan_: Your best bet is probably to use apt-get source linux-...
[01:47] <apokryphos> awk: officially supported, should be fine.
[01:47] <EthanG> apok:whats the alternate cd url?
[01:47] <dte> apokryphos, yes, I am using dapper, and I get that error with the update-manager...
[01:47] <awk> apokryphos: nice, 1 last question, grsec support on edgy ?
[01:47] <det> khaije1, desktop is better unless you need a feature provided by alternate
[01:47] <det> khaije1, I have to use alternate for LVM and RAID
[01:47] <YoussefAssad> is wiki.ubuntu.com really slow?
[01:47] <apokryphos> dte: any other error output?
[01:47] <jan_> Luna-Tick: i just need the directory so i can do a vpn install.. do you know?
[01:48] <awk> YoussefAssad: im also suffering from slow sites
[01:48] <Luna-Tick> khaije1: yes. They are pushing the Desktop CD now, but alternate is faster and works on machines with less RAM. It is more confusing and has more options, however.
[01:48] <apokryphos> awk: what's that?
[01:48] <sami> where are md5 sums for edgy
[01:48] <Fujitsu> YoussefAssad: Looks likeit.
[01:48] <khaije1> det: does ubuntu boot to and lvm root?
[01:48] <awk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades that is so slow
[01:48] <dte> apokryphos, nope, just that, and the upgrade fails here... also i get that whenver i do apt-get update as well
[01:48] <Fujitsu> khaije1: If you configure it to do so, yes.
[01:48] <Luna-Tick> Sorry, jan_ no
[01:48] <awk> apokryphos: grsecurity patched kernel
[01:48] <apokryphos> sami: on the download page
[01:48] <det> khaije1, you need a seperate /boot
[01:48] <khaije1> Luna-Tick: raise your hand is love linux
[01:48] <apokryphos> awk: I really don't know I'm afraid.
[01:48] <awk> hmm anyone have another mirror for this
[01:48] <EthanG> where can i get the alternate ubuntu iso downlaod?
[01:48] <awk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[01:48] <det> khaije1, root can be LVM, but you need a seperate /boot
[01:48] <MattJ> EthanG, on the same page as the desktop one
[01:48] <kyja> I am getting nearly my full speen of 65kb @ http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/6.10/
[01:48] <awk> I cant even access it its so slow
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> EthanG: Same as the rest
[01:49] <EthanG> ok
[01:49] <apokryphos> dte: I recommend waiting for a few hours for the rush to die down, and then try again later.
[01:49] <khaije1> det: oh for grub's sake?
[01:49] <det> khaije1, right
[01:49] <MattJ> There are desktop, server, and alternate versions
[01:49] <dte> apokryphos, ok, I will do that, but I get that error all the time, with apt-get update as well, so I don't think it's some error just now
[01:49] <zircx> damnit.. I'm moving stuff from my xbox to my server ... and that's got 6 mins to go, my dapper has 3 minutes to go..
[01:49] <awk> sorry to bother again, does naoyone know of a site that has the upgrade instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades doesnt even open
[01:49] <zircx> oh that should work out perfect since i'll need to burn it
[01:49] <apokryphos> dte: can you pastebin the full output?
[01:49] <tuskernini> question... has anyone had problems with flatscreen blinking once before starting any movie file?
[01:49] <det> khaije1, which is logical, once it grabs the kernel and initrd it can do RAID/LVM/whatever
[01:50] <khaije1> det: is this how yours is setup? I'd like to do something similar
[01:50] <dte> apokryphos, sure, just a sec
[01:50] <EthanG> err... the same page as the desktop iso downlaod?
[01:50] <apokryphos> EthanG: yes
[01:50] <jan_> can somebody please tell me what the directory containing linux kernel source code is?
[01:50] <EthanG> errr... where?
[01:50] <Alzi3> Hi. I have chosen the wrong keyboard map and now I can't change it :'(... How to change it, and the defaults, to U.S. english=
[01:50] <Alzi3> ?
[01:50] <ehird> woooohooo now to install
[01:50] <EthanG> It just has a list of mirrors
[01:51] <apokryphos> EthanG: choose one
[01:51] <EthanG> brb
[01:51] <niksavel> hey all
[01:51] <timhaughton> I'm following the Edgy upgrade instructions. gksu "update-manager -c" shows no updates. Is this to be expected?
[01:51] <det> khaije1, I have 3 drives, they each have 2 partitions. One of the partitions is a 256Mb /boot in Raid 1 and the other is the rest of the disk in Raid-5 and then I have LVM ontop that.
[01:51] <tonyyarusso> timhaughton: Could be your mirror hasn't synced yet.
[01:51] <JoseStefan> timhaughton, try adding -d to that
[01:51] <jdt_> jan_  are you referring to linux kernel source?
[01:52] <khaije1> det: have you ever considered using evms instead of lvm?
[01:52] <det> khaije1, what are the advantages
[01:53] <det> khaije1, I remember breifly looking at it
[01:53] <UB^> Have someone got the problem that GDM restart randomly?
[01:53] <jan_> jdt_: i get a promt for the linux kernel source code when i want to install a vpn program....
[01:53] <niksavel> Here's my big question >  I am updating kubuntu dapper to edgy following instructions from the homepage and am now at sudo apt-get dist-upgrade part.....   I know it has a lot to dl, and it's no prob since I'm at my 100mps uni lan, but it is downloading SLOW AS CRAP!!!!  it rarely goes above 10kps...   can anyone help me how to speed it up?
[01:53] <jan_> jdt_: i get a promt for the linux kernel source code when i want to install a vpn program....
[01:53] <apokryphos> niksavel: perhaps try using a mirror
[01:53] <jan_> jdt_: so yes.. do you know?
[01:53] <niksavel> how?
[01:53] <tim_> As i know it shouldnt be possible to deactivate xgl without restarting X, i know that i can deactivate beryl and load another window decorator, but i would like to have the possibilty to deactivate xgl on my laptop without loosing my session. is it possible ?
[01:54] <jdt_> jan_ aahh...  its most likely in /usr/src/
[01:54] <LookTJ> brb gonna burn edgy to cd with k3b
[01:54] <jan_> jdt_: thats what i thought, but that directory is empty
[01:54] <ehird> now to burn ISO, and to reboot! :)
[01:54] <det> khaije1, Too be honest, I am really happy with raid + LVM2
[01:54] <MattJ> good luck ehird :)
[01:54] <apokryphos> jan_: that's because you haven't installed the headers
[01:54] <jdt_> jan_ If you have installed more than one kernel however, you will need to point it to the right one.  so type uname -r to get the running kernel ver
[01:54] <ehird> if all goes well, then, i guess i'll be here next on ubuntu instead of this crappy xp install ;)
[01:55] <khaije1> det: i'm not sure, i've found only bits and scraps of info here and there, but it seems that evms has some features not in lvm yet such as CoW
[01:55] <apokryphos> niksavel: yes, as you can imagine there's a big rush to download now
[01:55] <det> khaije1, Copy on Write?
[01:55] <ehird> First, for the "brute force" ubuntu removal: run fixmbr and then use gparted to nuke the partition
[01:55] <khaije1> det:  ya
[01:55] <Solskogen> Is xfs still broken when doing netinstall?
[01:55] <dte> apokryphos, here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28414/
[01:55] <Solskogen> (that is, making xfs-filesystems)
[01:55] <variant> anyone know if the vmware workstation is free to download or what will i need to boot an xp bin on ubuntu if its not free?
[01:56] <apokryphos> niksavel: a list of a few mirrors here: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[01:56] <khaije1> det: also the mgmt interface is nicer w/ evms imho
[01:56] <soundray> "can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk" -- is this a known problem when upgrading with update-manager?
[01:56] <jan_> apokryphos: how do I install them if necessary? im running 2.6.15-27-386
[01:56] <timhaughton> JoseStefan: The -d option works. Does that mean the upgrade instructions need updating?
[01:56] <tim_> Any good reasons for upgradig to edgy from dapper ?
[01:56] <det> khaije1, So, you have experience with both?
[01:56] <apokryphos> niksavel: talk in here :)
[01:56] <JoseStefan> timhaughton, it means update-manager needs updating
[01:56] <niksavel> k
[01:56] <variant> tim_: it boots a little faster, has a different theme and a bunch of other updates
[01:56] <apokryphos> jan_: /msg ubotu headers
[01:56] <khaije1> lvm is strickly cli isn't it?
[01:56] <quilzo> wow great host... only takes 5 hours to load the faq, \o/
[01:57] <niksavel> niksavel> all I know is to type apt-get dist-upgrade
 I am updating directly from the internet
 I can download the livecd, that's no prob...
 but it said on the web that you can only make a fresh install with it
 so I suppose that there really isn't anything I can do but wait?
 the prob is that I'm not too happy about leaving my laptop at the university overnight.... :/
[01:57] <jdt_> jan_ ahh. The source simply isnt installed then - if you are running dapper - do the uname - r. It will say something like 2.6.15- etc.. then use synaptic to find the sources for that version. the files you are after are: linux-source-* and linux-headers-  matching your running kernel ver
[01:57] <apokryphos> niksavel: please do not flood the channel like that :)
[01:57] <niksavel> sry :)
[01:57] <tim_> variant, does it give me any problem ? i dont want problems
[01:57] <timhaughton> JoseStefan: I have all latest Dapper updates. It seems to me that the Upgrade Instructions are wrong. Am I missing something?
[01:57] <apokryphos> niksavel: yes, as I said, either try some of the mirrors, or it'll have to wait
[01:57] <niksavel> haven't been on IRC in years :)
[01:57] <variant> tim_: might do
[01:57] <variant> tim_: i had no problems
[01:57] <tim_> Ok
[01:57] <variant> tim_: but there are no garuantees
[01:57] <awk> hello, what is the address to upgrade from dapper to edgy using ubuntu server build?
[01:57] <elkbuntu> niksavel, imagine if 1061 people were doing that ;)
[01:57] <khaije1> det: only w/ evms, but it's impressive, i haven't found much in the way of mgmt interface for lvm- it's cli only isn't it?
[01:57] <soundray> tim_: if your system is stable now, and you're not missing anything, you can stay with dapper. It'll be supported for the next 2 1/2 years.
[01:57] <EthanG> back
[01:58] <det> khaije1, Yeah
[01:58] <EthanG> im downloading ubuntu alternate install
[01:58] <niksavel> I said I was sorry :)
[01:58] <det> khaije1, a GUI would be nice
[01:58] <JoseStefan> timhaughton, -d flag is for development releases, and should no longer be required for edgy as of today
[01:58] <jan_> jdt_: ok.. running dapper.. have 2.6.15-27.386 will chech synaptic
[01:58] <niksavel> so...  is there a way to DL the livecd and update my kubuntu dapper to edgy from that?
[01:58] <ndlovu> is there any difference between one torrent and another for the same ISO? (are there fast and slow ones)
[01:58] <niksavel> or can I update the thing directly from mirrors somehow?
[01:58] <elkbuntu> !update | awk
[01:58] <ubotu> awk: Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:58] <timhaughton> JoseStefan: Does that mean I'm installing a difference version?
[01:59] <apokryphos> nikin: you can, yes. Just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list with the relevant URL
[01:59] <awk> elkbuntu: i'v read, that.. i'm using a net connection
[01:59] <awk> not going to be using a CD
[01:59] <det> khaije1, With EVMS, it does the striping itself, rather than running ontop a raid device?
[01:59] <JoseStefan> timhaughton, no, but in a few weeks that same flag will point to another edgy development version
[01:59] <khaije1> det http://evms.sourceforge.net/gui_screen/ you can ge the idea from this
[01:59] <elkbuntu> awk, net connection rather than internet connection?
[01:59] <tim_> soundray, Nice, but ill upgrade soon.. but right now it really runs smooth with xgl and beryl... but i would like to be able to dactivate xgl without loosing my gnome session
[01:59] <awk> that is what I am refering to
[01:59] <EthanG> I'm actually making my own distro
[01:59] <khaije1> det: it's configureable, yes
[01:59] <ehird> this is exciting
[01:59] <ehird> :p
[02:00] <EthanG> :)
[02:00] <variant> awk: change dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list and do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:00] <awk> that simple ey ? :)
[02:00] <dte> apokryphos, did you see the link I pasted?
[02:00] <EthanG> Ed-to-the-g
[02:00] <variant> tim_: aiglx will allow you to do that
[02:00] <naaronbo> Today is released final de edgy in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-October/000093.html downlodat it
[02:00] <zircx> EthanG: you're struggling with an install and you're making a distro?
[02:00] <ehird> err
[02:00] <ehird> naaronbo: you're a bit behind
[02:00] <niksavel> awk...  I'm doing the same thing and the apt-get dist-upgrade part is taking like 2 days
[02:00] <apokryphos> dte: yes; hm, curious
[02:01] <EthanG> zircx: Joint thingie with school
[02:01] <niksavel> and I'm at 100mps connection, but it's downloading at 10kps
[02:01] <awk> niksavel: fock, but is yours a desktop OS with alot more packlages than me ?
[02:01] <awk> myne is a server build
[02:01] <EthanG> zircx: its our school project
[02:01] <timhaughton> JoseStefan: Thanks for the help.
[02:01] <niksavel> desktop kubuntu
[02:01] <dte> apokryphos, i get that always but I ignored it since it didnt really stopped me from gettin something until now
[02:01] <niksavel> not really all that many packages
[02:01] <apokryphos> dte: it should only not let you get things from multiverse, but still, it shouldn't happen.
[02:02] <alonz> torrent at 20K/sec here... still Error 503 from the tracker sadly
[02:02] <CarinArr> 20k/s sounds suspiciously capped
[02:02] <Alzi3> I love the new artowrk.
[02:02] <Alzi3> artwork*
[02:02] <KaroSHi> alonz, what client?
[02:02] <JoseStefan> timhaughton, np
[02:02] <det> khaije1, It's hard to find a comparison on the 'net
[02:02] <okn> hi there
[02:02] <alonz> CarinArr: well, in the range 15-25 or so, I mean. Not precisely 20
[02:02] <dte> apokryphos, can I use force or something so that will be ignored? or the upgrade to 6.10 will not be complete like that?
[02:02] <KaroSHi> hi okn
[02:02] <alonz> KaroSHi: utorrent on wine
[02:03] <tim_> I cant deactivate xgl without loosing my gnome session right? or is there some kind of cool trick ?
[02:03] <ehird> see you guys then!
[02:03] <awk> hehe, I see fedora.redhat. is completely messed up
[02:03] <okn> Where can i find the dvd iso of 6.10 ??
[02:03] <khaije1> det: tell me about it, i've been looking for weeks
[02:03] <RawSewage> why is my torrent slwoing down.  Torrents are supposed to get faster with more people, not slower
[02:03] <okn> only dvd iso i can find is ubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-amd64.iso
[02:03] <okn> i need 64bit by the way...
[02:03] <RichiH> RawSewage: not when the seeding starts, no
[02:03] <KaroSHi> k, have you given ktorrent a go? i switched from win to ubuntu recently and ive fount ktorrent to be pretty good, almost like utorrent, also, are you grabbing from a public or private tracker?
[02:03] <alonz> RawSewage: the ratio of seeds to peers might have gotten worse
[02:03] <RichiH> RawSewage: peope need stuff before they can actually distribute it
[02:04] <apokryphos> dte: use a mirror, perhaps. See if you get the same problem there.
[02:04] <rixth> Too bad Edgy was released with a crippling bug- boot takes 5 minutes if you have a specific raid array, cause it fsck's EVERY F'ING BOOT.
[02:04] <det> khaije1, does evms use device mapper?
[02:04] <awk> hmm, is there a way you can set shaping on apt-get to limit your connection to a certain speed?
[02:04] <Adriano> RawSewage: maybe because not many people have the parts you're missing
[02:04] <RawSewage> Still. peers feed to each other
[02:04] <vernes> anyone else notice the screen contrast dropping after playing a movie?
[02:04] <khaije1> det:  yup
[02:05] <khaije1> det: it seems like they are equivalent in almost everyway
[02:05] <okn> Does anyone know where can i download dvd iso of 6.10 64bit ?
[02:05] <alonz> are there other trackers for the Edgy torrent than the ubuntu official one?
[02:05] <zircx> ok, just waiting for my disk to burn and then that's me ... install time..
[02:05] <khaije1> btw you can use the evms gui to manage lvm
[02:05] <khaije1> det: btw you can use the evms gui to manage lvm
[02:05] <zircx> what file systems do people prefer? ext2 / ext3 or reiserfs?
[02:05] <det> khaije1, LVM2 seems to be better supported by most Linux distros.
[02:06] <apokryphos> zircx: ext3 is Ubuntu's default
[02:06] <det> zircx, ext3
[02:06] <Artemis3> ext3
[02:06] <alonz> zircx: the future of reiserfs is in doubt, so I switched to ext3
[02:06] <awk> its only 230mb upgrarde from dapper to edgy
[02:06] <awk> thats lovely
[02:06] <zircx> I've normally used reiserfs.. I might have to do an install with ext3
[02:06] <awk> take around 20 min
[02:06] <soundray> zircx: ext3. reiserfs is not receiving much development attention since reiser4 is out. Reiser4 is highly controversial.
[02:07] <dxdemetriou> if I upgrade with  gksudo "update-manager -c -d" is ok? without the -d doesn't show upgrade, and with -d it says is beta
[02:07] <zircx> yeah I had heard that, but I've been a little out of touch..
[02:07] <niksavel> that's just great
[02:07] <alonz> 54/437 seeds/peers is what I see here. Is it the same for other people?
[02:07] <Artemis3> reiserfs is catastrophic if something fails, such as a hd which report cache cleared when its not, and power goes out
[02:07] <det> I have been burned by reiserfs
[02:07] <awk> what is going to happen with reiserfgs now that mr resiser has been jailed?
[02:07] <det> Many years ago
[02:07] <niksavel> downloaded the edgy livecd in 6 minutes via x downloader, but it takes 100+hrs to update the distro   !?
[02:07] <JoseStefan> dxdemetriou, it seems update-manager has been updated to not require the -d. it should be ok
[02:07] <apokryphos> awk: reiserfs wasn't even beeing maintained by him
[02:07] <JoseStefan> has not*
[02:07] <rc-1> is there an ubuntu/debian package for wxruby, or fxruby?
[02:07] <awk> apokryphos: ahh
[02:08] <apokryphos> awk: he was concentrating on reiser4
[02:08] <dxdemetriou> JoseStefan, I have tried it now and it's not. What repos can I use?
[02:08] <JoseStefan> !info wxruby edgy
[02:08] <Jettis> Should apt-get install ubuntu-desktop work?
[02:08] <awk> niksavel: thats the beauty of gcc perl, etc upgrades ;)
[02:08] <ubotu> Package wxruby does not exist in edgy
[02:08] <awk> apokryphos: oh, intresting, I never knew that.
[02:08] <Artemis3> there are more options, and i think they are even planning ext4
[02:08] <variant> awk: he wast the leader of the team though, hopefully it will survive
[02:08] <JoseStefan> dxdemetriou, gksudo "update-manager -c -d"   will upgrade to edgy
[02:08] <niksavel> but I really dont wanna leave my laptop here on the university to update everything for few days
[02:09] <variant> Artemis3: yeah, htere is an "alpha" of ext4 available
[02:09] <apokryphos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
[02:09] <niksavel> and if I cancel the dist-upgrade it starts from scratch
[02:09] <variant> niksavel: no it doesnt
[02:09] <niksavel> u sure?
[02:09] <variant> niksavel: 10%
[02:09] <dxdemetriou> JoseStefan, so to ignore that says beta. thanks :)
[02:09] <zircx> great I'm just about ready for a fresh install..
[02:09] <variant> 100%
[02:09] <variant> i mean;lol
[02:09] <JoseStefan> niksavel, it shouldnt start from scratch, but if it is already installing, you shouldnt cancel
[02:09] <zircx> gnomebaker rocks.
[02:09] <niksavel> ach :)
[02:09] <sheepsheep> how can I upgrade from dapper, if I've downloaded the release and burned it on cd ?
[02:09] <okn> is the Edge name of the latest version ?
[02:10] <okn> Edgy ?
[02:10] <niksavel> no it's still downloading
[02:10] <JoseStefan> niksavel, its only safe to cancel if it is downloading
[02:10] <niksavel> it's been downloading for some 8 hrs now
[02:10] <Artemis3> gnomebaker? ever tried a multisession dvd?
[02:10] <variant> niksavel: the downloads wont start from scratch, so download and then take home to finnish off
[02:10] <niksavel> and it's only 23%
[02:10] <okn> i mean is edgy-dvd-amd64.iso  6.10 version ?
[02:10] <alonz> okn: The Edge is the guitarist from U2 :)
[02:10] <surfi_boi> just a quick question after i have set up a new partition in my free space already on my hd the rw permissions are wrong and i cant write to the drive.. How do i change this so that it works correctly?
[02:10] <okn> alonz, ok edgy :)
[02:10] <zircx> great! I'm ready to roll... later guys :) enjoy the edge
[02:10] <JoseStefan> okn, file starting with edgy-* are prerelease versions
[02:10] <alonz> okn: yes, Edgy is 6.10
[02:10] <variant> surfi_boi: chmod -R user:group
[02:10] <JoseStefan> files*
[02:11] <variant> surfi_boi: chmod -R user:group /path/to/mountpoint
[02:11] <alonz> okn: but you want the 6.10, which are teh finals
[02:11] <okn> ok, i wanna download 6.10 x64 dvd version..edgy-dvd-amd64.iso  is the one ??
[02:11] <niksavel> can any1 tell me what will change on my comp with upgrade to edgy?
[02:11] <okn> if not, which one should i get ? :)
[02:11] <alonz> okn: it should say 6.10, not Edgy
[02:11] <soundray> Oh dear, 1.4GB upgrade...
[02:11] <Artemis3> brown tone :=)
[02:11] <okn> there is no dvd of 6.10 :(
[02:12] <RawSewage> what do you want a DVD for
[02:12] <tim_> Will xgl and beryl need a reinstall ip i upgrade to edgy ?
[02:12] <screechingcat> ive changed all my repos from edgy to dapper and i did an apt-get upgrade. is this safe for upgrade ?
[02:12] <soundray> okn: might take another few days
[02:12] <apokryphos> screechingcat: do you mean from dapper to edgy?
[02:12] <det> khaije1, My impression is that EVMS is a juggernaut while LVM2 is a small/simple component that fits into a bigger machine. I prefer the latter.
[02:12] <RawSewage> 1.4 gb upgrade?  thats crazy
[02:12] <JoseStefan> DVDs:   http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/release/
[02:12] <okn> ah, ubuntu-6.10-dvd-amd64.iso     found it :)
[02:12] <RawSewage> Just do a fresh install
[02:12] <screechingcat> apokryphos, yes
[02:12] <apokryphos> screechingcat: and no, just that is not enough/recommended. Please see the topic
[02:12] <Fujitsu> screechingcat: apt-get dist-upgrade is the way to go.
[02:12] <nikin> aa lot of people try do download edgy :D my download crashes every 5-10 minutes :D
[02:12] <RawSewage> This torrent is at 15 kbps
[02:12] <apokryphos> Fujitsu: screechingcat: if you *are* using dist-upgrade, you have to FIRST make sure that ubuntu-desktop is installed
[02:13] <RawSewage> wtf.  it's a TORRENT
[02:13] <cyphase> finally!
[02:13] <niksavel> 21% [237 openoffice.org-style-default 1888956/3147kB 60%]     3406B/s 2d 7h1m28s
[02:13] <niksavel> :(
[02:13] <Fujitsu> apokryphos: Of course...
[02:13] <screechingcat> apokryphos, if it isnt
[02:13] <apokryphos> screechingcat: .......you can break your system
[02:13] <okn> did anyone install Maya 8.0 to ubuntu ? \
[02:13] <Alakazamz0r> morning all
[02:13] <cyphase> RawSewage: 18KB/s for me
[02:13] <Fujitsu> screechingcat: If it isn't, things may well crash and burn, though not irrecoverably.
[02:13] <RawSewage> This is the worst torrent ever
[02:13] <RawSewage> for having so many seeds and peers
[02:13] <nikin> 256k for me :D
[02:13] <apokryphos> Fujitsu: perhaps even irrevocably :P
[02:13] <screechingcat> apokryphos, damn it. no prob i just started. no changes affected
[02:13] <det> Raskall, I am getting 600KB/s
[02:13] <alonz> 21K here
[02:14] <Fujitsu> apokryphos: No, not.
[02:14] <cyphase> RawSewage: it's coming faster from the website itself
[02:14] <RawSewage> wtf
[02:14] <Jettis> I'm trying to install ubuntu-desktop package and it tries to install xkeyboard-config, but then dpkg says that it is overwriting one file which is also in other package xlibs. So what should I do?
[02:14] <sheepsheep> how can I upgrade from dapper, if I've downloaded the release and burned it on cd ?
[02:14] <RawSewage> cyphase, I cancelled the website download at 50%
[02:14] <Fujitsu> sheepsheep: Did you download the desktop CD?
[02:14] <apokryphos> Fujitsu: well, you can *completely* screw up your PM system. If you consider many hours of work not irrevocably, then there's never an irrevocable problem.
[02:14] <sheepsheep> I want to know if I should download it or just do a direct update
[02:15] <niksavel> http://nl2.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso    downloaded in: 06:49
[02:15] <Fujitsu> apokryphos: Not really. It should in theory be fine to install it afterwards, and then fix a few broken packages...
[02:15] <apokryphos> sheepsheep: a direct update is fine presuming you're following the proper instructions
[02:15] <Tomcat_> niksavel: I needed less. ;D
[02:15] <Fujitsu> sheepsheep: You need the alternate CD if you want to upgrade from it.
[02:15] <soundray> Jettis: find out the full name of the .deb archive and force the install with 'sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite package_version.deb'
[02:15] <niksavel> that's minutes
[02:15] <okn> Why all people downloads CD of ubuntu, instead of DVDs ?
[02:15] <apokryphos> Fujitsu: no, I've seen very many broken systems precisely for that reason. All not very easy at all.
[02:15] <Fujitsu> okn: 'cause CDs are smaller, so quicker?
[02:15] <sheepsheep> what's the altenate cd and is it diffrent from the normal cd ?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> RawSewage: the torrent won't speed up until the seed to peer ratio improves and there are more pieces availbale
[02:15] <tarzeau> okn: DVDs are too big?
[02:15] <tarzeau> okn: and not everyone has a DVD burner?
[02:16] <nikin> coz DVD is big
[02:16] <nikin> and Net is fast
[02:16] <niksavel> and all crap old comps don't have DVD drives
[02:16] <RawSewage> thoreauputic, ok
[02:16] <sheepsheep> It's just that we have more then one computer in the office with ubuntu
[02:16] <soundray> sheepsheep: that's a FAQ. Alternate has a non-graphic installer with more options.
[02:16] <sheepsheep> and we want to save the bandwidth
[02:16] <swanfl> dvd also may hav apps people don't want
[02:16] <Fujitsu> apokryphos: I've upgraded many systems through various releases, and haven't had any that have caused breakage that takes more than 30 minutes to fix, but that's my experience...
[02:16] <JoseStefan> it's not like the CDs are missing much
[02:16] <okn> i see :)
[02:16] <Fujitsu> sheepsheep: You may want to look at setting up apt-cacher.
[02:16] <Tomcat_> niksavel: Yeah, I needed about 2 minutes ;)
[02:16] <Shadowthrone> You know when you close a program window, rather than closing some times it drops onto the taskbar thingy -- I seem to have lost that, how can I get it back?
[02:16] <Jettis> soundray, that worked, thank you. :)
[02:16] <quilzo> hmm, the faq doesn't mention audio(-drivers)... is there another help file maybe?
[02:16] <niksavel> tomcat: bleh!
[02:17] <Fujitsu> Shadowthrone: which application in particular?
[02:17] <apokryphos> Fujitsu: I've dealt with tens of users who have borked their systems because of that. But also, it's not just a case of getting more packages. In certain scenarios you can have completely the wrong package as Ubuntu relies on the meta-package to successfully even remove some packages
[02:17] <niksavel> is there some super fast secret mirror for repos so I can upgrade this thing faster?
[02:17] <niksavel> :)
[02:17] <Shadowthrone> Fujitsu: Gaim.
[02:17] <apokryphos> niksavel: many to try :P. nl2 mirror used to be good for me in the past.
[02:17] <ndlovu> If I click the bittorrent link from one mirror, is it any different from selecting the torrent from another mirror?
[02:17] <KmyJIxy> hello peoples!
[02:18] <swanfl> Gaim is in extreme Beta at this point :)
[02:18] <JoseStefan> CC.archive.ubuntu.com      where CC is your country code
[02:18] <soundray> niksavel: de.archive.ubuntu.com is fast for me.
[02:18] <apokryphos> ndlovu: nope
[02:18] <gypsymauro> hello
[02:18] <Fujitsu> apokryphos: I know that, however, I've never had any major breakage, and I've dealt with tens of machines... But this is OT.
[02:18] <CarinArr> i hate shower curtains tho
[02:18] <Adriano> Shadowthrone: did you lose the entire traybar?
[02:18] <gypsymauro> hot I can know the difference betweeb packages available in ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-alternate cd?
[02:18] <ndlovu> apokryphos, thanks, I'll just wait it out then
[02:18] <CarinArr> er lol.. wrong window
[02:18] <gypsymauro> how
[02:18] <Shadowthrone> Adriano: Yes I think so.
[02:19] <quilzo> my sound works, but I can't change it in any way :s
[02:19] <savvas> one of the repos is stuck
[02:19] <niksavel> so I should just replace http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu with http://de.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[02:19] <Adriano> try readding it right-clicking on that panel, select "add to this panel"
[02:19] <Tomcat_> niksavel: Yeah yeah, I'm just showing off now. :)
[02:19] <Fujitsu> gypsymauro: They are the same, but with slightly different languages.
[02:19] <niksavel> in the repos?
[02:19] <apokryphos> niksavel: for all entries in your sources.list -- correct.
[02:19] <soundray> niksavel: yes, and apt-get update again after that.
[02:19] <Adriano> and add "Notifications area"
[02:19] <savvas> Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg Could not connect to au.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (130.95.128.79), connection timed out
[02:20] <niksavel> http://de.archive.ubuntu.com  or  http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  ?
[02:20] <andriijas> what do i replace dapper with in sources.list to upgrade ? edgy? edgyeft?
[02:20] <apokryphos> savvas: so try another mirror
[02:20] <Adriano> (I'm translating, so it might be slightly different)
[02:20] <apokryphos> andriijas: to upgrade you should really be following the Wiki guide in the /topic
[02:20] <andriijas> apokryphos: okay, thx
[02:20] <Adriano> (should be the first thing in the "Utilities" section
[02:20] <Shadowthrone> Adriano: okay I'll try. Thanks.
[02:20] <nikin> 50%
[02:21] <screechingcat> apokryphos, i tried update "update manager -c" as recmnded in the wiki but there's some problem with the repos
[02:21] <eva> hello i have some problem with pdf files can i install acrobat reader to ubuntu
[02:21] <dredhammer> help, i just upgraded to Edgy and Xserver died
[02:21] <screechingcat> apokryphos, tell me the exact update method (recommended)
[02:21] <apokryphos> screechingcat: heavy load at the moment
[02:21] <andriijas> hmm
[02:21] <andriijas> i think the whole world is about to upgrade
[02:21] <andriijas> maybe should wait a couple of days hehe
[02:21] <apokryphos> screechingcat: I recommend just trying again in a few hours
[02:21] <michiel____> hello
[02:22] <apokryphos> or days, better
[02:22] <Shadowthrone> Adriano: Awesome! Thanks!
[02:22] <Adriano> yw
[02:22] <screechingcat> apokryphos, with the same method ?
[02:22] <JoseStefan> screechingcat, gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[02:22] <Fujitsu> andriijas: Wrong. The whole world /is/ upgrading :P
[02:22] <nikin> eva: you can, but what is your provlem?
[02:22] <screechingcat> apokryphos, whats the d for ?
[02:22] <apokryphos> screechingcat: yes
[02:22] <Adriano> eva: instructions are in http://ubuntuguide.org
[02:22] <michiel____> which daemon in Ubuntu mounts USB sticks to /media?
[02:22] <screechingcat> JoseStefan, whats the d for ?
[02:22] <andriijas> Fujitsu: heheh
[02:23] <nikin> !pdf
[02:23] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[02:23] <apokryphos> screechingcat: I don't think the -d is necessary anymore actually; one sec.
[02:23] <Fujitsu> michiel____: gnome-volume-manager uses pmount to do so.
[02:23] <eva> nikin the program that was with drapper is not showing the file correct
[02:23] <michiel____> Fujitsu: thanks
[02:23] <Fujitsu> screechingcat: It is to tell it to upgrade to a development release. No longer necessary.
[02:23] <JoseStefan> screechingcat, -d stands for development, it appears update-manager still hasn't been corrected to not require the -d
[02:23] <screechingcat> Fujitsu, ok thanks
[02:24] <dredhammer> anyone know how to get xserver back after an upgrade to edgy?
[02:24] <screechingcat> JoseStefan, it has. i can confirm that
[02:24] <anders9034> hey guys i need to install gnome on my ubuntu desktop, and i tried "sudo apt-get gnome", but that wasn't a package i think. so i tried "sudo apt-get gnome*" but that ment downloading 1207MB and I don't think I need all those packages. is there a better way? or do i have to maunally download the gnome-packages that i need?
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> What are my options for cli CD burning apps?
[02:24] <Fujitsu> dredhammer: What is the error you're getting, and what video card is it?
[02:24] <apokryphos> anders9034: gnome-desktop
[02:24] <Fujitsu> anders9034: If you want the entire Ubuntu desktop set, install ubuntu-desktop.
[02:24] <anders9034> thanks guys
[02:24] <dredhammer> Ati, and it says xserver not configured properly
[02:25] <dredhammer> i tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:25] <AlanHaggai> How is Ubuntu 6.10 friends?
[02:25] <Fujitsu> anders9034: Unless you installed the server edition, GNOME is installed by default.
[02:25] <nikin> eva: then isntall the adobe one: the package name is acroread
[02:25] <AlanHaggai> I have 6.06
[02:25] <Adriano> AlanHaggai: it feels like... victory
[02:25] <AlanHaggai> but would like to know the new features in 6.10
[02:25] <Fujitsu> dredhammer: Does it mention anything about driver ABI versions?
[02:25] <Adriano> just like the smell of napalm in the morning
[02:25] <anders9034> Fujitsu: i have installed server edition
[02:25] <apokryphos> AlanHaggai: check the topic
[02:26] <anders9034> the package gnome-desktop was not found...
[02:26] <dredhammer> not that i recall
[02:26] <AlanHaggai> ok
[02:26] <Fujitsu> anders9034: Ah... Do you want just GNOME, or the entire Ubuntu desktop experience?
[02:26] <aoupi> anders9034: ubuntu-desktop
[02:26] <apokryphos> anders9034: install ubuntu-desktop
[02:26] <ehird> edgy installer is broken for me
[02:26] <nikin> anders: ubuntu-desktop
[02:26] <Adriano> AlanHaggai: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop
[02:26] <soundray> AlanHaggai: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[02:26] <dsewnr_> How to change the default locale ( ANSI_X3.4-1968 ) to Unicode ( UTF-8 ) ?
[02:26] <ehird> it complains that i havent set a root partition but i have
[02:26] <AlanHaggai> thanks friends :)
[02:26] <anders9034> Fujitsu: what's there to be experienced? :-)
[02:26] <timhaughton> arc76turus
[02:26] <AlanHaggai> will check it now
[02:26] <timhaughton> oops, wrong window
[02:26] <Fujitsu> anders9034: All the extra applications and magical stuff?
[02:27] <soundray> dsewnr_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[02:27] <dsewnr_> soundray: Thx
[02:27] <dsewnr_> soundray: : )
[02:27] <anders9034> Fujitsu: i really just need a skinny gnome (unless that means manually selecting 67 packages or so)
[02:27] <ehird> and no matter what i try
[02:27] <ehird> it still complains about it
[02:28] <nikin> there is a gnome package
[02:28] <apokryphos> anders9034: there's desktop-base but I'm not sure what that has exactly; one sec.
[02:28] <soundray> anders9034: there really isn't such an option. Consider xfce (xubuntu-desktop) instead
[02:28] <Nox_ville> hey.. whats the command to start bluetooth... and how can i use bluetooth to connect and use a bluetooth modem on my Nokia phoen
[02:28] <Nox_ville> *phone
[02:28] <Fujitsu> anders9034: gnome-session might do it, but I'm not sure.
[02:29] <soundray> !bluetooth | Nox_ville
[02:29] <ubotu> Nox_ville: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:29] <Nox_ville> Fujitsu, ill assume u've got a Fujitsu-Siemens computer.. laptop / desktop ?
[02:29] <Adriano> ok, time to estudiar. Great time everyone
[02:29] <anders9034> apokryphos:  yes please
[02:29] <Adriano> ci vediamo dopo
[02:29] <Fujitsu> anders9034: throw in gnome-panel as well, I don't  think there's any one package.
[02:29] <Nox_ville> !bluetooth
[02:29] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:29] <quilzo> sudo echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss ---> gives "permission denied" why ?
[02:29] <Nox_ville> !Nokia
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Nokia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: Nope.
[02:29] <soundray> Nox_ville: don't fish with the bot, pls
[02:29] <Nox_ville> ah.. the name then?
[02:29] <apokryphos> anders9034: a 'gnome' package does exist
[02:29] <nikin> Nox: New Nokia Phones dont like Linux :D i have a 6230  :D
[02:30] <anders9034> apokryphos:  i know
[02:30] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: It's been around for several years now, and it's a rather odd story :P
[02:30] <AlanHaggai> Hi Nox_ville, me too searching for a Nokia connectivity in Ubuntu
[02:30] <apokryphos> anders9034: so what's the problem?
[02:30] <soundray> !gnokii
[02:30] <ubotu> gnokii: Datasuite for the mobile phones (console & X). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.12-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 812 kB, installed size 2952 kB
[02:30] <Nox_ville> oh.. any ideas anyone (to get Bluetooth with Nokia phones....)
[02:30] <niksavel> HOORAY
[02:30] <ehird> any ideas?
[02:30] <adhoc> nikin: i have a 6230 and the bluetooth and ifrared rock =)
[02:30] <niksavel> http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu in repos gave me 4mps upgrade speed :)
[02:30] <savvas> i can download the cd and use it to upgrade right?
[02:30] <Nox_ville> adhoc.. did you gnokii
[02:30] <Nox_ville> ?
[02:30] <adhoc> Nox_ville: use the bluez tools
[02:30] <Fujitsu> savvas: The alternate CD, not the desktop one.
[02:30] <niksavel> thanks guys
[02:31] <anders9034> apokryphos: the problem is mereyl that i don't want the big install of 1,3 GB when i just need the basic gnome.
[02:31] <Nox_ville> explain please.. i = noob
[02:31] <soundray> ehird: what install method have you chosen?
[02:31] <apokryphos> anders9034: gnome-core then
[02:31] <jc__> Hi
[02:31] <ehird> soundray: i got the desktop ISO as soon as edgy came out
[02:31] <bionoid> Nox_ville: I saw this announced on freshmeat today, havn't tried it though: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gammu/
[02:31] <nikin> Bluetoth is no problem in Kubuntu getting connected is nothing.. but never had luck with trying to recognize the Nokias Features
[02:31] <adhoc> Nox_ville: go look for the bluez deb packages , all you need is in the doco
[02:31] <anders9034> apokryphos: allright thanks :-)
[02:31] <Fujitsu> Hi jc__.
[02:32] <savvas> thanks Fujitsu :)
[02:32] <soundray> ehird: so you booted from it and selected the install option?
[02:32] <savvas> i'll use the torrent, to ease your network hehe
[02:32] <Fujitsu> savvas, then follow the CD upgrade instructions on the link in the topic.
[02:32] <ehird> soundray: and double clicked the little install icon on the desktop, yes, as i assumed that was the way to install :p
[02:32] <Fujitsu> savvas: Be warned that torrents are slow.
[02:32] <nikin> 61%
[02:32] <soundray> ehird: you generally assumed right... Did it take you to the partitioning tool then?
[02:32] <Dimensions> hi when i try to login as root to mysqladmin i get an error message that ...Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
[02:33] <jc__> Does anyone know how to install software RAID1 in Ubuntu 6.06?
[02:33] <soundray> !raid | jc__
[02:33] <ubotu> jc__: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:33] <niksavel> apokryphos: I can use http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu for EVERY single instance in place of www.ubuntu.com in my repos?
[02:33] <apokryphos> nikin: for every instance of archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu specifically, yes
[02:33] <soundray> niksavel: in place of archive.ubuntu.com, yes
[02:34] <niksavel> thanks!
[02:34] <ehird> soundray: Yes, I chose my SATA HD and Manually edit partition table and did nothing in it, just pressed next - i had already prepared partitions with gparted and it worked in the previous release
[02:34] <ehird> it showed up the existing partitions, i changed /dev/sda2 to /, ticked Reformat (does it without the tick too), [Next] ... "No root partition"
[02:34] <soundray> ehird: it may be necessary to let the tool format your partitions.
[02:34] <YoussefAssad> wasn't there this script which selects fastest mirror?
[02:34] <soundray> ehird: oh, so you did that. Hmm.
[02:35] <frandavid100> hello!
[02:35] <jc__> thks i'll give it a try!
[02:35] <frandavid100> can someone please tell me how to write a ubuntu spec?
[02:35] <zenlinuxNH> "Who Loves Ubuntu? You Do!"
[02:35] <ehird> the drive is a standard Seagate 500gb affair by the way
[02:35] <soundray> ehird: can you open a Terminal, run 'sudo fdisk -l' and post the output in the pastebin pls
[02:35] <zenlinuxNH> That's my motto for today. :)
[02:36] <soundray> ehird: 500GB is a little more than standard to me, still ;)
[02:36] <surfi_boi> hey just a quick question the command: chmod -R user:group /path/to/mountpoint
[02:36] <surfi_boi> is user replaced with myself
[02:36] <soundray> !pastebin >ehird
[02:36] <ehird> soundray: except i'm in windows right now, as i nuked my linux partition to do this and besides i couldn't get the net working with ubuntu anyway ;)
[02:36] <surfi_boi> and what do i put in the path/to/mountpoint
[02:36] <YoussefAssad> surfi_boi: no
[02:36] <tilmanBK> Can someone help me getting my bluetooth-connection to my mobile (Siemens S65) working again under edgy ?
[02:36] <soundray> ehird: try with the desktop CD
[02:36] <ehird> soundray: i guess i could boot the livecd
[02:36] <surfi_boi> if the axx point of the drive /home/o
[02:36] <soundray> ehird: we think along the same lines.
[02:36] <ehird> but
[02:37] <ehird> if it worked in the preious release, it seems a bit weird it wouldn't this time
[02:37] <ehird> was the installer even changed?
[02:37] <nikin> 71% :D
[02:37] <soundray> ehird: it probably was, even if it doesn't show superficially.
[02:38] <valehru> I have a windows and a edgy machine....both can see the wireless router interface....both can surf a specific wireless network, however only one can access (windows xp) the router manager at 192.168.0.1  Could there be any reason for this?  I have connected the edgy machine to the router via ethernet,  it can ping it however it cannot bring up the wireless interface...suggestions welcome.
[02:38] <andy101> Anyone know which keyserver I can find the public key Ubuntu uses when signing the MD5sums for the CDs?
[02:38] <ehird> would it make a difference that i used Kubuntu 6.06 and Ubuntu 6.10 here?
[02:38] <soundray> ehird: but theorizing won't help -- at this stage it is a trial-and-error-and-diagnostics affair
[02:38] <RawSewage> The torrent is back up over 100 kBps
[02:38] <soundray> ehird: not for the partitioning, no.
[02:39] <nikin> valhru: what browser did you use in ubuntu?
[02:39] <soundray> RawSewage: thanks for keeping us up to date -- but are you sure that anyone but you needs to know this?
[02:39] <valehru> nikin, both of them used firefox, the one in ubuntu is firefox 2.0, the windows one is 1.5
[02:39] <RawSewage> soundray,  One can never be sure
[02:39] <ehird> soundray: ok, what was the command again?
[02:40] <RawSewage> Better safe than sorry
[02:40] <soundray> ehird: sudo fdisk -l
[02:40] <soundray> RawSewage: for that kind of thing, there's always #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:40] <valehru> ahh....thanks nikin.
[02:40] <RawSewage> WRONG SIR
[02:40] <RawSewage> WRONG
[02:40] <bakaneko> anyone: i have set my static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, however at random times the interfaces changes and i loose the static ip i set, instead getting an older version of the static ip i set 6 months ago. i would like to know how to fix this problem and what daemon is causign it , any help is appreciated. thanks in advance
[02:40] <RawSewage> THIS IS A HOLIDAY
[02:40] <valehru> nikin, mozilla browser brings it up perfectly....thanks
[02:40] <apokryphos> rawrness: please drop the caps.
[02:40] <RawSewage> The Edgy Holiday
[02:40] <nikin> i use 1.5 on Ubuntu, and it is fine with my D-link 514
[02:40] <apokryphos> * RawSewage
[02:40] <ehird> soundray: i've built myself a natural avoidance of fdisk in my windoze days, will that do anythign except display something? :p
[02:41] <stojance_> How to make the minimize maximize and close buttons to show on the left side, like in a Mac. in Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[02:41] <stojance_> dapper\\
[02:41] <soundray> ehird: it will *only* display. Check man fdisk to assure yourself.
[02:41] <stojance_> dapper*
[02:41] <andy101> Anyone know where I can get the public key to verify the MD5s supplied for Ubuntu CD images?
[02:41] <ehird> sudo fdisk -l. alright, /me puts the command on a floppy disk so he remembers
[02:42] <ehird> see you in a few minutes guys
[02:42] <surfi_boi> chmod -R user:group /path/to/mountpoint -- Is the command i want to use however i am confused do i change user to myself and the /path/to/mountpoint .. do i change that to the axx point of my drive which is /home/o any advice would be appreciated
[02:42] <niksavel> I got some errors while doing dist-upgrade...
[02:42] <variant> surfi_boi: user and group can both be your username and the path should be the location at where you have mounted the parititon
[02:43] <eva> nikin i did try to do it but now i get a messsge that something is wron
[02:43] <soundray> niksavel: not worth reporting, unless you've run it a second time
[02:43] <nikin> eva: what is the message?
[02:43] <eva> nikin it is a very long one
[02:43] <nikin> oh :D
[02:43] <niksavel> okay re-running
[02:43] <nikin> wait... i intall it to... try to see it
[02:43] <nemesis4u> hello all
[02:43] <niksavel> ahem...
[02:43] <soundray> !pastebin | eva
[02:43] <ubotu> eva: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:44] <niksavel> a n00b question
[02:44] <niksavel> do I need to shutdown x to do dist-upgrade?
[02:44] <variant> niksavel: no
[02:44] <nemesis4u> I haev the new cd of 6.10 - I believe there is away to upgrade from 6.06 but how?
[02:44] <soundray> niksavel: no
[02:44] <variant> niksavel: but to see changes to gnome or whatever you will have to log out and back ijn
[02:44] <nemesis4u> there is a hui updater i believe but where?
[02:44] <nemesis4u> gui i mean
[02:44] <variant> niksavel: and if the kernel is upgraded you will have to reboot before you are using it
[02:45] <soundray> nemesis4u: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades has all the info -- be patient and read the whole story.
[02:45] <nemesis4u> thanks m8
[02:45] <eva> nikin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28420/
[02:45] <niksavel> it said somehting about unmed dependecies while trying to install kdelibs and to use -f
[02:45] <niksavel> that okay?
[02:45] <niksavel> unmet..
[02:45] <soundray> niksavel: yes, try a 'sudo apt-get -f install' (no other options)
[02:46] <J_P> hi all
[02:46] <soundray> niksavel: are you on kde routinely?
[02:46] <niksavel> ahem...  routinely?
[02:46] <soundray> niksavel: do you use Gnome or KDE day-to-day?
[02:46] <niksavel> KDE
[02:46] <Nox_ville> hey again.. sorry my power went off...
[02:47] <niksavel> but I am running this updating thing in console
[02:47] <maxb_at_work> I've just followed EdgyUpgrades apt-get method, and amongst other things, 'ubuntu-minimal' is kept back apparently as a result, upstart is not installed
[02:47] <bokey> anyone here has apache experience ?
[02:47] <Nox_ville> whats that link for Nokia phones?...
[02:47] <surfi_boi> variant: So is the location i have mounted my partition the same as my axx point ie would the correct command be chmod -R thinkpol:thinkpol /home/o
[02:47] <soundray> niksavel: this question isn't directly related to your upgrade.
[02:47] <Nox_ville> !gnokii
[02:47] <niksavel> ach
[02:47] <ubotu> gnokii: Datasuite for the mobile phones (console & X). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.12-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 812 kB, installed size 2952 kB
[02:47] <niksavel> :)
[02:48] <nikin> eva: what program did you use to install, and what version of ubuntu do you use?
[02:48] <Fujitsu> maxb_at_work: make sure you run apt-get dist-upgrade twice.
[02:48] <niksavel> I'm using KDE on my lap and fluxbox on my old comp
[02:48] <niksavel> but I am probably going back to gnome soon
[02:48] <niksavel> with a fresh install
[02:48] <maxb_at_work> Fujitsu: done that.
[02:49] <soundray> niksavel: the reason I'm asking is that if these problems drag on, it might be useful to install the kubuntu-desktop package.
[02:49] <Nox_ville> anyone... will gnokii work via bluetooth
[02:49] <niksavel> I've started working in linux with ubuntu for a month or so than tried kubuntu - it's a lot prettier
[02:49] <eva> nikin did you see that
[02:49] <niksavel> that's like a reinstal?
[02:50] <soundray> Nox_ville: gnokii doesn't really care *how* you connect to your phone.
[02:50] <user-land> what is currently the fastest way to download Ubuntu ? bittorrent ?
[02:50] <RawSewage> Yes
[02:50] <nikin> eva: what?
[02:50] <boink> today? fast?
[02:50] <RawSewage> Use torrents
[02:50] <WooD> Hi !
[02:50] <RawSewage> They are faster
[02:50] <boink> user-land: don't think anyway would be fast today
[02:50] <niksavel> Unpacking replacement kdelibs-data ...
[02:50] <niksavel> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.5-0ubuntu3_all.deb (--unpack):
[02:50] <niksavel>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package ktorrent-2.0
[02:50] <niksavel> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[02:50] <niksavel> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:50] <niksavel>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.5-0ubuntu3_all
[02:51] <soundray> niksavel: no, it's a package that consists only of dependencies. Having it often ensures a smoother upgrade.
[02:51] <eva> nikin i did paste a like to the error i got
[02:51] <soundray> niksavel: don't paste any errors here.
[02:51] <nikin> i have looked at the pastebin
[02:51] <niksavel> I'm gonna do that than...
[02:51] <surfi_boi>  chmod -R thinkpol:users /home/o.... However when i do that i get the error chmod: invalid mode: `thinkpol:users'
[02:51] <niksavel> sorry
[02:51] <eva> nikin link
[02:51] <surfi_boi> any ideas
[02:51] <AlexC_> Hey guys, can anyone help me - I can't even boot into the LiveCD -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284874
[02:51] <Nox_ville> k... lets start again.. i need to connect my nokia 6230i to my ubuntu pc via bluetooth connection
[02:51] <WooD> Any know how to upgrade firefox 2 in ubuntu? I have download the firefox2.tar.gz from the website and its ready to run
[02:51] <Nox_ville> any ideas
[02:51] <soundray> niksavel: run 'sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.5-0ubuntu3_all.deb'
[02:51] <RawSewage> WooD, upgrade to Edgy
[02:52] <WooD> RawSewage: what is edgy ?
[02:52] <eva> nikin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28420/
[02:52] <cyphase> the new version of ubuntu
[02:52] <RawSewage> WooD, the new version of Ubuntu that was just released
[02:52] <cyphase> it was just release hours ago
[02:52] <Nox_ville> Wood: esgy the the good shit
[02:52] <cyphase> released*
[02:52] <WooD> hoooooooooooo
[02:52] <Nox_ville> *is the
[02:52] <soundray> Nox_ville: keep this channel clean pls
[02:52] <nemesis4u> wooo hooo - I am starting the upgrade :-) - does anyone know if there have been inssues with Vmware after doing the upgrade - as in kernel-headers or anything like that?
[02:52] <AlexC_> which also doesn't work on Intel Core 2 Duo's/Abit AB9
[02:52] <rixxon> how much space do i need free to get edgy from dapper
[02:52] <Nox_ville> k... lets start again.. i need to connect my nokia 6230i to my ubuntu pc via bluetooth connection
[02:52] <WooD> RawSewage: ok Ill do that then
[02:52] <Nox_ville> sorry soundray...
[02:52] <cyphase> Nox_ville: please stop repeating that
[02:53] <Nox_ville> sorry.. thought there was a ./ignore./.... ;)
[02:53] <Toma-> Nox_ville: what do you need to do with your phone? transfer?
[02:53] <nikin> i see... but dont no what is with the repo
[02:53] <soundray> !pm | Nox_ville
[02:53] <ubotu> Nox_ville: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[02:53] <cyphase> if there is, it doesn't matter how many times you send it
[02:53] <wdamn> Hi, what mirrors do you advise for powerpc64?
[02:53] <elkbuntu> Nox_ville, please understand there's 1059 people in this channel today. it is very busy
[02:54] <Nox_ville> need to transfer and use as a bluetooth modem..
[02:54] <bakaneko> possible solution to: i have set my static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, however at random times the interfaces changes and i loose the static ip i set, instead getting an older version of the static ip i set 6 months ago. i would like to know how to fix this problem and what daemon is causign it , any help is appreciated. thanks in advance.  Solution: sudo chmod -w /etc/network/interfaces
[02:54] <Nox_ville> to connect to net.
[02:54] <niksavel> soundray: okay, I did that, after that I got another only dependancy prob with java, but -f install is going on
[02:54] <nikin> i ame trying to install it to... maybe i can see the problem
[02:54] <WooD> do i need to download a cd to be able to update Dapper ?
[02:54] <Toma-> Nox_ville: youll need gnokii gnome-bluetooth package
[02:54] <Toma-> *and
[02:54] <WooD> I mean to update dapper to edgy
[02:54] <RawSewage> !upgrade
[02:54] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:54] <soundray> niksavel: things are looking up then.
[02:54] <zircx> ok, well that's pretty impressive so far so good
[02:55] <niksavel> soundray: indeed :)
[02:55] <cyphase> we're the top channel right now
[02:55] <niksavel> soundray: what was that command?
[02:55] <niksavel> soundray: some black ubuntu magic surely :)
[02:55] <kleinlapp> hello everyone
[02:55] <Nox_ville> Toma: do you have a link for me?
[02:55] <Toma-> !bluetooth
[02:55] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:55] <Toma-> thatll help
[02:55] <Nox_ville> or is it already on the local repositories
[02:55] <Eldin> I have a microphone plugged in, how do I get ubuntu to recognise it?
[02:55] <soundray> niksavel: the dpkg one? It just told the installer that it was okay to overwrite a file that was also provided by another package.
[02:56] <ehird> !pastebin
[02:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:56] <Toma-> Nox_ville: should be in universe
[02:56] <Nox_ville> Eldin.. you should just be able to set is in alsamixer
[02:56] <zircx> ok, I think I'm having a problem with installing stuff due to the repository, what is the best repository address to add to the repositories list for synaptic or apt-get source.list
[02:56] <Nox_ville> cool
[02:56] <ehird> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28423/
[02:56] <WooD> RawSewage: thanks
[02:56] <cyphase> Eldin, it doesn't recognize the mic, it recognizes the input port
[02:56] <cyphase> unless it's a usb mic
[02:56] <Eldin> Nox_ville: Tried that, but will try again
[02:56] <niksavel> soundray: is it normal for such problems to occur?  I'd prolly never know how to fix that myself...
[02:56] <AlexC_> Guys I have a new PC, Intel Core 2 Duo and Abit AB9 - Edgy just refuses to boot the liveCD - I either get Error loading boot CD or it gets stuck loading the Kernel. why is this?
[02:56] <Nox_ville> oh.. that sux
[02:56] <Eldin> Ah, no, it's not a usb mic
[02:56] <kleinlapp> thefish ahoy you there?
[02:57] <cyphase> finally, my torrent just hit 100KB/s
[02:57] <thefish> howdy kleinlapp
[02:57] <prower> Anyone running Ubuntu on an AMD AM2-based system yet? ;> Investing in one soon
[02:57] <soundray> niksavel: it's a packaging bug, so shouldn't happen. But that's the kind of problem that we're here to help with ;)
[02:57] <soundray> ehird: reading...
[02:57] <finalbeta> How do I send output from a command to nothing? All output, including errors
[02:57] <rixxon> lol, 1551 packages to install/upgrade
[02:58] <Rookie_> finalbeta - /dev/null
[02:58] <eva> nikin ok thanks
[02:58] <RawSewage> rixxon, probably well over 1 gb
[02:58] <finalbeta> Rookie_, including errors.
[02:58] <ehird> sda2 is what i tried to mount as root
[02:58] <soundray> ehird: try a 'sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt'
[02:58] <rixxon> RawSewage: yep, was around 1,1Gio
[02:58] <finalbeta> something with |1/2 can't remember
[02:58] <finalbeta> &2
[02:58] <kleinlapp> thefish going to get registered quickly
[02:58] <ehird> soundray: at what point of installation?
[02:58] <whyameye> finalbeta: to send errors is 2> /dev/null.
[02:58] <soundray> ehird: oh, are you back in Windows?
[02:59] <AlexC_> Guys I have a new PC, Intel Core 2 Duo and Abit AB9 - Edgy just refuses to boot the liveCD - I either get Error loading boot CD or it gets stuck loading the Kernel. why is this?
[02:59] <niksavel> I have a general question too:  :)    I've tried both gnome and kde versions of ubuntu, and I deffinitely prefer working with ubuntu and looking at kubuntu, which deffinitely poses a problem :)   I was wondering is there a way to make gnome display fonts a bit less "pixellated" like a bit of antialiasing or whatever it is that KDE is doing?
[02:59] <Rookie_> the basic command is /dev/null .... > /dev/null for to be more exact
[02:59] <ehird> soundray: yes, remember, i don't have ubuntu installed right now: i nuked my linux partition for edgy and besides, ubuntu won't work with my internet connection right now for a few reasons so i wouldn't be here anyway
[03:00] <nemesis4u> wooo hooo - I am starting the upgrade :-) - does anyone know if there have been inssues with Vmware after doing the upgrade - as in kernel-headers or anything like that? - can someone pm me if they know of this? just so much happening in this channel
[03:00] <finalbeta> Rookie_, whyameye  Was looking for >/dev/null 2>&1 , thnx
[03:00] <soundray> ehird: I thought you might have connectivity from the live CD.
[03:00] <surfi_boi>  chmod -R thinkpol:users /home/o.... However when i do that i get the error chmod: invalid mode: `thinkpol:users'
[03:00] <joona> nemesis4u: yes, vmware compiles few modules against kernel sources
[03:00] <nemesis4u> ta
[03:00] <soundray> ehird: the reason I suggested the mount attempt was to see if there was something obviously wrong with the filesystem on /dev/sda2
[03:00] <joona> but it doesn't affect you unless you upgrade your kernel too
[03:00] <nemesis4u> :-
[03:00] <guillem101> niksavel, gnome should show the same font rendering quaility than KDE, if not better...
[03:00] <nemesis4u> :-)
[03:01] <ehird> soundray: to get connectivity, i have to compile stuff and modify the filesystem, which i obviously can't do on the livecd :)
[03:01] <JoseStefan> AlexC_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
[03:01] <thefish> surfi_boi: you should do it user.group not user:group
[03:01] <soundray> ehird: an option might be to download an ext2 driver for Windows and try with that.
[03:01] <guillem101> niksavel, gnome-font-properties
[03:01] <joona> nemesis4u: you can run the vmware install script again anytime, to get the vmware modules built again and back up
[03:01] <ehird> soundray: And I think the filesystem is fine. Should I chkdsk it? That's solved a problem on it before
[03:02] <soundray> ehird: that would have been my next suggestion.
[03:02] <ehird> i just formatted it with gparted, though, so i dunno what could be wrong
[03:02] <niksavel> okay, I'll give it a try :)
[03:02] <SpaceFrog> hey guys
[03:02] <apokryphos> hi
[03:02] <AlexC_> JoseStefan: Thanks I will look through that - but that really does suck they couldnt fix it for the EDgy release
[03:02] <kleinlapp> thefish whats the sites name where i can paste large amount of text? want to write and explain my position -- if thats ok whit you?
[03:02] <soundray> ehird: you know you have to make gparted carry out the planned changes after you've configured them?
[03:03] <Nox_ville> kleinlapp: pastebin
[03:03] <SpaceFrog> has anyone had any luck getting Flash 9 working with Firefox 2.0 ? I had Flash9 and Firefox1.5 on here before i upgraded to 2.0, and now it's reverted back to Flash7 and i cannot find the flash7 .so file to replace with version 9
[03:03] <surfi_boi> still getting the same error thefish
[03:03] <ehird> soundray: : i'm not that stupid, of course I did ;)
[03:03] <kleinlapp> Nox_ville thanks
[03:03] <thefish> surfi_boi: paste the whole command here please
[03:03] <Nox_ville> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/'
[03:03] <Nox_ville> *http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:03] <n_3o> hi
[03:03] <nikin> eva: i found an alternate soulution
[03:03] <Dimensions> hi i have installed php and mysql along with apache2 ... when i try to login to it or any thing it gives an error ... ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2).... when i check there is no mysqld.sock ... what should i do ????
[03:03] <WooD> how long it takes to upgrade from dapper to edgy ?
[03:03] <nikin> without any repoing
[03:03] <soundray> ehird: sorry -- I've been known to be that stupid.
[03:03] <surfi_boi> chmod -R user:group /path/to/mountpoint -- Is the command i want to use however i am confused do i change user to myself and the /path/to/mountpoint .. do i change that to the axx point of my drive which is /home/o any advice would be appreciated
[03:04] <ehird> guess i'll *shudder* chkdisk
[03:04] <surfi_boi> chmod -R thinkpol.users /home/o
[03:04] <thefish> surfi_boi: or the pastebin in the channel subject :)
[03:04] <jdt_> surfi_boi: are you not wanting chgrp?
[03:04] <ehird> there it goes
[03:04] <nikin> go to acrobat.com and there Download > Acrobat reader
[03:04] <c0nf> hiya :)
[03:04] <soundray> surfi_boi: the command is chown
[03:04] <nikin> get the tar.gz version for Linux
[03:04] <ehird> i'll try now
[03:04] <ehird> bye
[03:04] <surfi_boi> i just want to change the access of a new parition so a normal user can write to it easily
[03:04] <Dimensions> ***waiting***
[03:04] <n_3o> does anyone in here know anything about wifi? i checked #netstumbler and threre is nobody there.. also.. Im having problems with my wifi ISP connection.. DROPOUT etc. Lose connection, gain conneciton.. please could anyone with knowledge on how to troubleshoot this help me .. Andrew in Africa
[03:04] <surfi_boi> so is it possible you could give me an abridged command
[03:04] <thedude0> sup c0nf
[03:04] <sith-lord> yo
[03:05] <c0nf> good, good
[03:05] <c0nf> ya?
[03:05] <c0nf> yo sith-lord
[03:05] <shiznix`> Hi
[03:05] <vorbote> SpaceFrog: /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so, that's what you wnat to replace. (Nest time remember that dpkg and locate are your friends).
[03:05] <c0nf> hi shachaf_ xD
[03:05] <soundray> surfi_boi: you had it right, except that it's chown not chmod
[03:05] <thefish> surfi_boi: chmod does numeric permissions on files (ie chmod 755 /bla) - chown is what you want to OWN a file
[03:05] <c0nf> shiznix`*
[03:05] <c0nf> :p
[03:05] <Nox_ville> Andrew,. are you in SA?
[03:05] <SpaceFrog> thanks vorbote
[03:05] <n_3o> yes
[03:05] <thefish> surfi_boi: chown -R user.group /path
[03:05] <n_3o> Republic of South Africa
[03:05] <shiznix`> fun
[03:05] <sith-lord> investigating
[03:05] <variant> surfi_boi: you can use chown or chmod
[03:06] <Mojee> i need help with installing ubuntu plz
[03:06] <surfi_boi> ok the command worked with chown
[03:06] <Nox_ville> n_3o: me to ...
[03:06] <Nox_ville> does anyone know the correct configuration for nokia 6230i setup with gnokii... the tutorial is only for LG, Samsun and Sony Ericson..
[03:06] <surfi_boi> but when i try to guide into the dir it still shows read only
[03:06] <AlexC_> oh, exelent, great. I can only install Ubuntu if I have a 1GB USB stick ... great......amazing
[03:06] <thefish> surfi_boi: chmod is just to change user/group/other permissions
[03:06] <n_3o> I have a sony ericcson
[03:06] <variant> what am i talking about...
[03:06] <n_3o> but seriously.. anyone know how to fix wifi problems?
[03:06] <Dimensions> Nox_ville: what do you wanna do with ur cell ... ? i can help if using it for GPRS Modem ..connection
[03:06] <thedude0> Playing: "sensation - Wanadoo Top 100 v.h. jaar 2002 - the anthem 2002" (192kbps - 44kHz - Stereo)
[03:06] <thefish> surfi_boi: now run chmod -R 750 /path
[03:06] <soundray> surfi_boi: what filesystem do you have in that partition?
[03:06] <variant> AlexC_: what are you talking about?
[03:06] <surfi_boi> ext3
[03:07] <Dimensions> guys Any one would know answer to my question abt mysql connection ?
[03:07] <Mojee> I Got a problem while trying to install ubuntu can someone pme plz
[03:07] <n_3o> I used to use gprs.. but now wifi.. only st...iillll having problems./
[03:07] <Nox_ville> Dimensions.. yes please i need it for GPRS modem....
[03:07] <soundray> surfi_boi: sorry, I'll leave you in the capable hands of thefish
[03:07] <Mojee> I Got a problem while trying to install ubuntu can someone pme plz...
[03:07] <AlexC_> variant: I have a new Intel Core 2 Duo setup with an Abit AB9 - which Ubuntu has problems with the JMicron IDE Controller.......aparantly the only workaround is the install Ubuntu via a USB stick
[03:07] <AlexC_> variant: that is assuming I have a 1GB memory stick
[03:07] <whyameye> Dimensions: you could try the apache channel. Not sure what its exact name is but it is on freenode.
[03:07] <surfi_boi> chmod -R 750 /path ran that with abridged path all done
[03:07] <Noah0504> Does anyone know why I am not able to run two instances of BitTorrent under Edgy?  I get an "address already in use" error when I try to run a second instance.
[03:08] <variant> AlexC_: yeah, i have heard abouthtat.. a fix is in the pipeline for 2.6.18 kernel apparantly
[03:08] <thefish> surfi_boi: the easy way to use chmod is with u, g or o (short for user, group, other) and then the permissions r, w, x (read, write, execute)
[03:08] <variant> Noah0504: your using gnome-btdownloader?
[03:08] <Mojee> does anyone know what that messege means "m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off"?
[03:08] <surfi_boi> but still cant paste a file into that partition
[03:08] <Noah0504> variant: Yes.
[03:08] <kitche> Dimensions: I didn't see your question
[03:08] <thefish> surfi_boi: chown changes the owner (or group)
[03:08] <variant> Noah0504: that is a limmitation of that program
[03:08] <AlexC_> variant: but the new kernel wont make it onto the new Edgy CD will it?
[03:08] <Mojee> does anyone know what that messege means "m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off"? while trying to install ubuntu.
[03:08] <variant> AlexC_: no idea
[03:08] <variant> AlexC_: at some point
[03:08] <edscho> does anyone know the most robust way to make python 2.5 the default used on Edgy? If I change the /usr/bin/python symlink to python2.5, some things like bittorrent break
[03:09] <surfi_boi> thefish: So why cant i write into that dir now
[03:09] <soundray> Mojee: don't repeat pls. If someone knows, they will tell you
[03:09] <Noah0504> variant: Hmm, I've never had a problem in previous Ubuntu versions, just on Edgy.
[03:09] <Dimensions> Nox_ville: when you plug ur cell do dmesg ... will tell u if you have a gprs modem fone ... it it doesn't say any thing it means ur fone / cable isn't supported ... ELSE ... do these sudo Wvdial.conf /etc/wvdial ... and just change fone number in wvdial.conf as *99***1# and user name and passwd i donno if you are from UK or what ... type pon.wvdial it will connect u ...
[03:09] <thefish> surfi_boi: so now you can change a files permissions with "chmod u+rwx /path" that means "give the current owner of the file read, write and execute perms
[03:09] <AlexC_> pah, sorry variant im not angry at you - just generaly annoyed
[03:09] <variant> Noah0504: ok, then it's an edgy bug iwth that program.. cus i only ever used gnome-btdownloader once and that was on edgy :P
[03:09] <Noah0504> variant: haha
[03:09] <kitche> Dimensions: ah see if the sock is in /tmp for your mysql
[03:09] <variant> AlexC_: yeah, these things happen.. blame proprietry hardware specs
[03:09] <thefish> surfi_boi: chmod 750 give the owner rwx, the group r-x and others nothing
[03:10] <thefish> surfi_boi: so if you are happy with that, job done :)
[03:10] <Dimensions> umm kitche checking :)
[03:10] <Tom-Blind> Hello
[03:10] <surfi_boi> thefish i still cant paste files in there
[03:10] <Noah0504> variant: What BitTorrent client do you use?  (If you use one.)
[03:10] <variant> Noah0504: azureus, but i dont use it right now
[03:10] <dredhammer> hello again i finally got xserver back but now my LC_ALL is unset how do i reconfigure locale.conf?
[03:10] <surfi_boi> :~# chmod u+rwx /home/o
[03:10] <surfi_boi> was the command i used
[03:10] <variant> Noah0504: normally i download stuff from irc
[03:11] <Noah0504> variant: I see.
[03:11] <Nox_ville> is a java runtime environment automatically in ubuntu?
[03:11] <Dimensions> kitche: i dont have it in /tmp either as im using ubuntu
[03:11] <niksavel> if I install gnome on my kubuntu desktop and start using gnome, will it be any different than if I did a fresh install of ubuntu?
[03:11] <Nox_ville> !java
[03:11] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:11] <dredhammer> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locale.conf does not work
[03:11] <variant> Noah0504: http://www.ircklipper.info
[03:11] <Tom-Blind> Would anyone know a way of doing a linux install completely through SSH?
[03:11] <surfi_boi> and within the graphical environment it still shows user as unknown
[03:11] <surfi_boi> and owner as unknown
[03:11] <variant> Tom-Blind: yeah, its very easy
[03:11] <khermans_> is there somehwere with the torrent?  ubuntu.com is slow as hell
[03:11] <YoussefAssad> dredhammer: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[03:11] <kitche> Dimensions: hmm guess they didn't make a sock for mysql
[03:11] <Noah0504> variant: Thanks.  :)
[03:11] <vorbote> dredhammer: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf"
[03:11] <dredhammer> ok thanks
[03:11] <variant> Tom-Blind: never done it with ubuntu though.. just gentoo
[03:11] <edscho> tom-blind: there are lots of instructions on doing that with Gentoo.
[03:11] <YoussefAssad> dredhammer: and then I suggest you install bash-completion
[03:11] <Dimensions> is ur prob solved now Nox_ville ?
[03:12] <Dimensions> kitche:  that would mean no one can use mysql on ubuntu ? how can i create that sock ?
[03:12] <variant> but really its not hard, just like doing a normal install mostly
[03:12] <thefish> if you need more granular than that, you can play with ACLs (getfacl, and setfacl) but you will need to remount with acl as a mount option (check me on that, may be slightly different)
[03:12] <Nox_ville> my ubuntu pc is being installed.....
[03:12] <maxb_at_work> I've just upgraded using the apt-get method... it went ok for the most part, but I had to manually "apt-get install ubuntu-minimal", and follow that up with a "Yes, do as I say!" to convince apt that I really did want sysvinit removed. Anyone else seen this?
[03:12] <kitche> Dimensions: it's a compile time feature
[03:12] <Nox_ville> @Dimension
[03:12] <Mojee> iam rebooting and while trying to install ubuntu iam getting the error "m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off" does any one know whats the solution?
[03:12] <Tom-Blind> can someone PM me to talk about this as I can not see well enough to follow the room
[03:12] <thefish> surfi_boi: seems like i bounced :( i was saying that chmod 750 gives the owner rwx, group r-x and others no permissions on the files
[03:12] <edscho> Anyone know the 'official' way to make Python 2.5 the default in Edgy?
[03:12] <soundray> variant: it depends on the state of the remote PC in the beginning of the installation, though, doesn't it?
[03:13] <dredhammer> tells me its not fully installed or its brokern
[03:13] <Nox_ville> brb
[03:13] <Mojee> iam rebooting and while trying to install ubuntu iam getting the error "m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off" does any one know whats the solution?
[03:13] <thefish> edscho: have you tried linking python2.5 to /usr/bin/python ?
[03:13] <eva> i have some problem with the repositories
[03:13] <bob4444> can anyone give me a had with the ECIadsl install just got suck on somthing?????????
[03:13] <variant> soundray: as long as it has plenty of swapspace or a free partition and is allready running a linux distro yeah
[03:13] <cyphase> how fast are the torrents coming?
[03:13] <surfi_boi> chmod -R 750 /home/o
[03:13] <variant> soundray: or if you can get someone to put a live cd in for you and start ssh
[03:13] <surfi_boi> was the command i used but no luck
[03:13] <cpk2> any apps that can encode from .mpg?
[03:13] <mandelum> http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ still have the rc in their filename... sould I wait to get a final release
[03:13] <dredhammer> mencoder
[03:13] <surfi_boi> im logged in as root in terminal is that correct
[03:13] <dredhammer> or avidemux
[03:13] <thefish> surfi_boi: what do you want to acheive?
[03:13] <Fujitsu> edscho: Yes. Don't.,
[03:13] <JebJoya> hey, anyone fancy guiding me through a problem I'm having with a PCMCIA wireless card?  (on previous version - no wireless atm means no internet :(  )
[03:13] <eva> what repositories do i need
[03:13] <Mojee> iam rebooting and while trying to install ubuntu iam getting the error "m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off" does any one know whats the solution?
[03:13] <bob4444> pm me if u want
[03:14] <soundray> variant: important caveats, those ;)
[03:14] <Mojee> iam rebooting and while trying to install ubuntu iam getting the error "m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off" does any one know whats the solution?
[03:14] <cpk2> avidemux apparently cant handle the mpg i am trying so i will check out mencoder
[03:14] <edscho> thefish: that works for python2.5 stuff, but breaks other stuff like bittorrent. Do you think this is a bug in bittorrent?
[03:14] <JebJoya> bob4444 was that toward me?
[03:14] <Tom-Blind> Would anyone know a way of doing a linux install completely through SSH? I need to login through a windows box using zoom software, I can not see the screen at all
[03:14] <thoreauputic> !repeat
[03:14] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:14] <surfi_boi> the fish i want my new partition /home/o to be writable for anyone at the moment i cant put any files on it
[03:14] <Fujitsu> Mojee: Please wait more than 17 seconds between repeats.
[03:14] <soundray> Mojee: I asked you before not to repeat your question.
[03:14] <kleinlapp> thefish when you have a chance here is my post http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28425/ (hope it helps)
[03:14] <surfi_boi> yet it is mounted etc
[03:14] <edscho> thefish: i mean a bug in the ubuntu bt package?
[03:14] <thefish> edscho: not sure sorry :(
[03:14] <variant> soundray: it might be possible to do it over a windows box with ssh and cygwin installed
[03:15] <Eldin> I feel slightly silly for asking, but how does one switch from playback to capture in alsamixer?
[03:15] <edscho> thefish: thanks anyway
[03:15] <Viaken> W00tcaeks!!
[03:15] <Mojee> soundray: ok..
[03:15] <soundray> variant: you'd have to know very well what you're doing. I wouldn't dare setting up partitions from cygwin...
[03:15] <bob4444> anyone here know much about eciadsl
[03:15] <joona> $oa = new Osaamisalue;
[03:15] <Tom-Blind> Would anyone know a way of doing a linux install completely through SSH? I need to login through a windows box using zoom software, I can not see the screen at all, please pm me as I am unable to see in the main room
[03:15] <Fujitsu> Eldin: It's tab, I think.
[03:15] <joona> sorry
[03:15] <Tom-Blind> your all too quick for me
[03:15] <Fujitsu> Eldin: Otherwise, man alsamixer will tell you.
[03:15] <mkara> Hi all. Is it possible to download Kubuntu 6.10 DVD image?
[03:16] <Eldin> Fujitsu: thanks... right too... feel so stupid now >.>
[03:16] <variant> soundray: as long as it has chroot (which im pretty sure it does) then it should be ok
[03:16] <Fujitsu> mkara: The DVD images are not yet available, as far as I know. They should appear on mirrors in the coming hours.
[03:16] <thefish> kleinlapp: looks like its something on the router eh - you have no firewall on the machines so it seems to be blocking ports
[03:16] <bob4444> i got stuck here: root@*******-desktop:/home/*******# modprobe -r dabusb && rm -f $(modprobe -1 | grep dabusb) && depmod -a
[03:16] <bob4444> modprobe: invalid option -- 1
[03:16] <bob4444> Usage: modprobe [-v]  [-V]  [-C config-file]  [-n]  [-i]  [-q]  [-Q]  [-b]  [-o <modname>]  <modname> [parameters...] 
[03:16] <bob4444> modprobe -r [-n]  [-i]  [-v]  <modulename> ...
[03:16] <bob4444> modprobe -l -t <dirname> [ -a <modulename> ...] 
[03:16] <bob4444> root@*******-desktop:/home/*******#
[03:16] <surfi_boi> thefish: i want my new partition /home/o to be writable for anyone at the moment i cant put any files on it
[03:16] <Fujitsu> !paste
[03:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:16] <Mojee> iam getting the error m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off while trying to install what should i do?
[03:16] <variant> soundray: maybe just enough to get a basic semi working real linux system installed from which youcould do it again properly :)
[03:16] <thefish> kleinlapp: have you tried with a liveCD? just boot up and dont install, then try to get on irc etc
[03:17] <surfi_boi> it is just frustrating as whenever i try and create a partition from the desktop i seem to have this problem
[03:17] <soundray> variant: sounds like you're the one who might help Tom-Blind
[03:17] <JebJoya> anyone know anything about ubuntu hanging when a PCMCIA card is inserted (although it did work briefly once...)
[03:17] <jelly> Hello, are dist-upgrades tested and supposed to work in Ubuntu?
[03:17] <h3sp4wn> Tom-Blind: debian can definately do it (not sure about ubuntu - maybe its the same method)http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed
[03:17] <mkara> Fujitsu: Thanks.
[03:17] <variant> soundray: yeah well, if he wants it :P
[03:17] <variant> jelly: yes
[03:17] <JebJoya> (sorry for repeat, i thought it may have got rather lost in the fray)
[03:17] <Fujitsu> jelly: Yes, but only between consecutive versions.
[03:17] <thefish> surfi_boi: its not a great idea to make your home writeable by anyone, but you could do it with chmod ugo+rw /home/o
[03:17] <c0nf> dudes
[03:17] <thefish> surfi_boi: what is your username? o?
[03:17] <c0nf> i know how to install nvidia graphic drivers for 6.06
[03:17] <surfi_boi> thinkpol
[03:17] <Tom-Blind> so many people and no ideas?
[03:17] <c0nf> setup is the same for 6.10?
[03:17] <surfi_boi> thefish: thinkpol
[03:17] <jelly> Fujitsu: that's exactly what I want, dapper -> edgy.
[03:18] <Nox_ville> ppl. ive put in my live cd.. it shows the pc booting but when it loads x,  but then my screen freaks out, funny distorted pictures appear and my power button on the screen flashes on and off.
[03:18] <variant> Tom-Blind: hello.. i just gave you a ton
[03:18] <variant> lol
[03:18] <Fujitsu> jelly: See the link in the topic...
[03:18] <Mojee> iam getting the error m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off while trying to install what should i do?
[03:18] <thefish> surfi_boi: was /home/o just a typo?
[03:18] <Fujitsu> !nvidia | c0nf
[03:18] <ubotu> c0nf: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:18] <variant> Tom-Blind: describe the system you are remotely installing to
[03:18] <gilnim|double> short question: is there a difference between the beta with updates and the released version from today?
[03:18] <c0nf> meh, gonna check, thx
[03:18] <Fujitsu> gilnim|double: No.
[03:18] <c0nf> there is only for 6.06
[03:18] <c0nf> and i know how to do it for 6.06 =)
[03:18] <kleinlapp> thefish k will try that if that also does not work then is it my network setup?
[03:18] <eva> anyone good at repositories pls help
[03:18] <thefish> gilnim|double: if you installed a beta, just apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:18] <gilnim|double> Fujitsu: alright - wasn't sure
[03:18] <Fujitsu> c0nf, it's the same, in that case.
[03:18] <surfi_boi> you see i make a new partition and im not sure what to make the access point
[03:18] <c0nf> ok, thx
[03:18] <Fujitsu> !ask | eva
[03:18] <ubotu> eva: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:19] <thefish> kleinlapp: i would guess at that yes
[03:19] <Eldin> Hmmm, mic is redded out in capture, but works fine if used for playback
[03:19] <gilnim|double> thefish: i just wondered because there are no updates :)
[03:19] <surfi_boi> thefish: Whenever i make a new partition i dont know what to make the access point. what should i make it for a spare data partition?
[03:19] <eva> i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28426/
[03:19] <thefish> kleinlapp: i cant imagine what else it could be, are they plugged into different switches/hubs than the xp boxen?
[03:19] <Tom-Blind> Variant I can not see well enough to read the main room could you e-mail it? Plz
[03:19] <ninan> hi ppl. do you have an splashscreen with upstart? i installed the rc with update manager and had some problems booting. i have to switch to console 1 to boot the system. software is current with release now
[03:19] <Fujitsu> gilnim|double: There have been only a couple of uploads to Edgy in the past 48 hours, so that'd do it.
[03:19] <Nox_ville> ppl. ive put in my live cd.. it shows the pc booting but when it loads x,  but then my screen freaks out, funny distorted pictures appear and my power button on the screen flashes on and off.
[03:19] <variant> Tom-Blind: no, but we can discuss it in /query if you prefer (you have to register with nickserv)
[03:20] <Nox_ville> help please
[03:20] <reiki_work> I see the nVidia driver note removed from topic now. If I update from 6.06 to 6.10 when I get home from work, will I be getting teh updated driver? Or do I still need to manually mess with that piece?
[03:20] <Fujitsu> !repeat | Nox_ville
[03:20] <eva> now i cant update
[03:20] <ubotu> Nox_ville: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:20] <thefish> surfi_boi: anything you like, i have a couple called data1 and data2, but the choice is yours
[03:20] <surfi_boi> thefish: What should i make the access point though after they are created?
[03:20] <Amaranth> reiki_work: It was only removed because there wasn't room for it
[03:20] <keithhhh> anyone have have good programs for encoding dv video....basically i want to take my DV tapes and put it onto on a DVD
[03:20] <cpk2> how do you search a man page again?
[03:20] <cpk2> the mencoder man is huge
[03:20] <Fujitsu> eva: Looks like the server is overloaded. Maybe wait a couple of hours.
[03:20] <gilnim|double> Fujitsu: I downloaded the last updates yesterday
[03:20] <thefish> surfi_boi: just make sure that they are in your /etc/fstab, and they will mount every time you reboot (eg /dev/sda1   /data1)
[03:20] <Fujitsu> cpk2: /whatever
[03:20] <Tom-Blind> lol, is there not a quiet room?
[03:20] <reiki_work> Amaranth: ok thanks... kinda figured that might also be the case :)
[03:20] <Nox_ville> Fujitsu sorry.. desperate situation.. so desperate im using my phone to ask for help here....
[03:20] <Fujitsu> gilnim|double: In that case, there are no updates.
[03:21] <thefish> surfi_boi: not sure what you mean? access point?
[03:21] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: Ouch!
[03:21] <gilnim|double> Edgy Eft rules! :)
[03:21] <dredhammer> is installing the ATI driver the same for Edgy as it is for Dapper?
[03:21] <variant> Tom-Blind: /join #slax
[03:21] <thefish> surfi_boi: do you mean mount point, like /sparedisk?
[03:21] <Nox_ville> sorry.. so any ideas?
[03:21] <soundray> Nox_ville: when you get to the first ubuntu screen, look at the help screens. There is something like vga=771 which you can add as a boot option. That should help
[03:21] <variant> Tom-Blind: /join #slax
[03:21] <tritium> dredhammer: yes
[03:21] <eva> Fujitsu thanks
[03:21] <surfi_boi> thefish: in gparted teh status of it is dev/sda3... but the mount point is /home/o
[03:21] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: Try to boot using the safe graphics mode option.
[03:21] <dredhammer> ok thanks tritium
[03:21] <gilnim|double> dredhammer: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[03:21] <thefish> aah
[03:21] <surfi_boi> so when i use chown should i be pointing to the device? or the mount point
[03:22] <thefish> surfi_boi: ok i wouldnt do that
[03:22] <Fujitsu> surfi_boi: Mountpoint.
[03:22] <gilnim|double> dredhammer: that worked well for me
[03:22] <surfi_boi> thefish:what would you do?
[03:22] <thefish> surfi_boi: although it will work.
[03:22] <Nox_ville> soundray, could it be my graphics card? 6600gt
[03:22] <surfi_boi> what should i do then?
[03:22] <JebJoya> I have a PCMCIA wireless card for my laptop, dual boot with windows and ubuntu (need windows for work unfortunately), Ubuntu hangs when the wireless PCMCIA card is inserted (it works in Windows), even though it did work for about 30 seconds once - any suggestions?
[03:22] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: Try the safe graphics mode option... Your graphics card could be the problem.
[03:22] <thefish> surfi_boi: I would make the mount point something at the root, like /storage or something
[03:22] <soundray> Nox_ville: probably, but it will work with Fujitsu's or my suggestion
[03:23] <MonsieurBon> should i terminate any apps before doing a dist-upgrade?
[03:23] <thefish> surfi_boi: then make sure it is mounted, you can check with "mount" on the console, and look for a line /dev/sda3, that will tell you where its mounted
[03:23] <Fujitsu> MonsieurBon: It's not necessary, but thinks like Firefox might crash if you don't.
[03:23] <Eleaf> oh lol
[03:23] <Eleaf> I was kicked
[03:23] <Fujitsu> *things
[03:23] <Eleaf> (from+1)
[03:23] <gilnim|double> JebJoya: Ndiswrapper
[03:23] <lupine_85> oh wow, edgy+1 is gone
[03:23] <lupine_85> erm, ubuntu+1
[03:23] <surfi_boi> /dev/sda3 on /home/o type ext3 (rw)
[03:23] <Nox_ville> soundray: k.. but will my graphics card ever work in ubuntu.. if i install Nvidia graphics drivers?
[03:24] <Eleaf> yeah lupine_85
[03:24] <Mojee> iam getting the error m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off while trying to install what should i do?
[03:24] <JebJoya> ndiswrapper?  google it?
[03:24] <surfi_boi> thefish:/dev/sda3 on /home/o type ext3 (rw)
[03:24] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: Yes, it should work fine once you install the proprietary drivers.
[03:24] <gilnim|double> !ndiswrapper
[03:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:24] <MonsieurBon> Fujitsu: doesn't harm anything though, if they do, does it? So I'm just not doing anything important like ebanking! :)
[03:24] <Fujitsu> MonsieurBon: No, it'll just close unexpectedly.
[03:24] <thefish> surfi_boi: ok its already mounted, edit your /etc/fstab now to change the mount point if you want
[03:24] <JebJoya> thanks gilnim|double
[03:24] <tritium> lupine_85: no, #ubuntu+1 (when it's back open) will be for feisty
[03:24] <lupine_85> JebJoya: which chipset?
[03:24] <Eleaf> lupine_85, I agree
[03:25] <MonsieurBon> Fujitsu: very good then! thank you!
[03:25] <gilnim|double> JebJoya: welcome - or try google; could work
[03:25] <surfi_boi> ok but i cant write to it still which is my problem thefish
[03:25] <burzum> ive just upgraded to edgy and now there no window-decorations. :( any ideas how to solve this?
[03:25] <JebJoya> phew, that's a question, it's a cheap-o third party one...
[03:25] <Nox_ville> Fujitsu: same question as above... pls
[03:25] <burzum> ive used beryl in dapper
[03:25] <Fujitsu> burzum: Were you using Xgl, by any chance?
[03:25] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[03:25] <lupine_85> JebJoya: PCI?
[03:25] <JebJoya> PCMCIA
[03:25] <Fujitsu> burzum: Well, you might want to disable it, or reinstall it.
[03:25] <burzum> Fujitsu: yes, in dapper i was. i dont know what the upgrade changed
[03:25] <lupine_85> ok... what't the line it presents in lspci?
[03:26] <thefish> surfi_boi: pastebin the results of this command please: "ls -la /home/o"
[03:26] <Fujitsu> burzum: There is a new version of X, for one thing, that could have broken it...
[03:26] <Fujitsu> burzum: Follow the Edgy beryl installation instructions.
[03:26] <JebJoya> lspci? (sorry, fairly new to linux...) :S
[03:26] <surfi_boi> drwxr-x--- 3 thinkpol thinkpol  4096 Oct 26 22:55 .
[03:26] <surfi_boi> drwxr-xr-x 4 root     root      4096 Oct 13 07:37 ..
[03:26] <surfi_boi> -rwxr-x--- 1 thinkpol thinkpol     0 Oct 26 22:55 .sudo_as_admin_successful
[03:26] <surfi_boi> drwxr-x--- 2 thinkpol thinkpol 16384 Oct 26 21:49 lost+found
[03:26] <Fujitsu> JebJoya: Lists devices on the PCI bus.
[03:26] <lupine_85> in a terminal, just type "lspci"
[03:26] <Fujitsu> !paste
[03:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:26] <Mojee> iam rebooting and while trying to install ubuntu iam getting the error "m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off" does any one know whats the solution?
[03:26] <cyphase> has anyone used beryl on both dapper and edgy? what's the difference?
[03:26] <reiki_work> !paste
[03:26] <Nox_ville> Fujitsu: k.. but will my graphics card ever work in ubuntu.. if i install Nvidia graphics drivers?
[03:26] <burzum> Fujitsu do you have a link?
[03:27] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: I said above, yes.
[03:27] <lupine_85> find the line that looks like it's for the device and paste it here... if you're not sure, just pastebin the whole thing
[03:27] <Toma-> cyphase: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:27] <Fujitsu> burzum: BerylOnEdgy on the wiki, or something like that.
[03:27] <Fujitsu> burzum: Otherwise, check in #ubuntu-xgl.
[03:27] <Kameli> How i can upgrade my Dapper to the newest Edgy? =( www.ubuntu.com says that it's released :'(
[03:27] <burzum> thank you
[03:27] <reiki_work> Nox_ville: were you running Ubuntu before? (I missed teh beginning) or are you installing for teh first time?
[03:27] <Nox_ville> kewl.. i missed that.. my phone only can see like the last 50 messages....
[03:27] <Fujitsu> Kameli: See the link in the topic.
[03:27] <Kameli> Fujitsu: ok =)
[03:27] <UNDERsoN> !current
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about current - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: that's quite understandable :)
[03:27] <Mojee> you know what..
[03:28] <Mojee> fuck you all
[03:28] <Mojee> noobs
[03:28] <lupine_85> The good news is that edgy's wireless support r0x0rz compared to Dapper's
[03:28] <Mojee> cocks suckers
[03:28] <Nox_ville> reiki_work: no.. im trying to install.
[03:28] <lupine_85> ooh, matron
[03:28] <UNDERsoN> Can I download edgy DVD today?
[03:28] <Toma-> pwnt!
[03:28] <surfi_boi> thefish:drwxr-x--- 3 thinkpol thinkpol  4096 Oct 26 22:55 .
[03:28] <surfi_boi> drwxr-xr-x 4 root     root      4096 Oct 13 07:37 ..
[03:28] <surfi_boi> -rwxr-x--- 1 thinkpol thinkpol     0 Oct 26 22:55 .sudo_as_admin_successful
[03:28] <surfi_boi> drwxr-x--- 2 thinkpol thinkpol 16384 Oct 26 21:49 lost+found
[03:28] <Fujitsu> Thanks tritium.
[03:28] <Fujitsu> !paste | surfi_boi
[03:28] <ubotu> surfi_boi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:28] <tritium> Fujitsu: any time!
[03:28] <surfi_boi> sorry guys
[03:28] <finalbeta> Suns Java will fully be open source in about 2 months using OSI license, does this mean Ubuntu will be able to delever Suns Java standard? The other projects will fade out?
[03:28] <Kameli> Is that Edgy faster or slower now in games? :)
[03:28] <JebJoya> lupine_85, I'm guessing it's 0000:02:00.0 Network Controller: RaLink: Unknown Device 0301
[03:28] <thefish> surfi_boi: try the pastebin ;)
[03:29] <lupine_85> ah, you're in luck if it's an ralink - they're very well supported
[03:29] <JebJoya> lupine_85, I guess that the "unknown device" is the issue?
[03:29] <Fujitsu> finalbeta: I doubt they will fade out...
[03:29] <lupine_85> edgy or dapper?
[03:29] <JebJoya> oh, cool
[03:29] <JebJoya> dapper atm
[03:29] <Fujitsu> Kameli: depends, and that's a fairly silly question.
[03:29] <JebJoya> edgy when i get internet ;)
[03:29] <reiki_work> Nox_ville: I'm running a rather rare nVidia card apparently... a 6300gt model with 512MB and it works great. So yeah, your nVidia card will work fine.
[03:29] <lupine_85> ok. If you update to edgy, it will "just work"
[03:29] <JebJoya> oh
[03:29] <JebJoya> cool :)
[03:29] <lupine_85> in the meantime, I still have a repo that does the same for dapper
[03:29] <thefish> surfi_boi: ok and your username is thinkpol? if so, open a new console as thinkpol, and try "touch /home/o/test" and let me know the results
[03:30] <JebJoya> unfortunately, i have no connection to my laptop atm, i'll wait til i get home where i have wired internet
[03:30] <chplanet_> Hi
[03:30] <JebJoya> i was hoping that edge would just fix it :)
[03:30] <Fujitsu> Hi chplanet_
[03:30] <cyphase> turns out I had a bad stick of memory
[03:30] <gilnim> does somebody know the little panel icon for xchat?
[03:30] <lupine_85> it fixes it pretty well :)
[03:30] <Nox_ville> reiki: did you have any problems when first installing?
[03:30] <lupine_85> you also want to watch out for the package "rutilt" - it's not in quite yet, but when it becomes available, install it
[03:30] <ppd> hi. I have installed ubuntu edgy on my computer and I have the problem, that vim doesn't do the things I want it to when pressing e.g INSERT. it almost seems to me that I have a wrong keymap or something like that, but in normal gnome-terminal mode everything works fine
[03:30] <JebJoya> the one major issue i have, lupine_85, is that my laptop can no longer load any new windows after i plug in the card :S
[03:31] <lupine_85> it's a GUI application to set up ralink cards - supports WEP, WPA, the whole nine yards
[03:31] <JebJoya> hard-reboot ahoy!
[03:31] <surfi_boi> thefish: appeared just to process the command and goes to next line
[03:31] <JebJoya> oh, cool :)
[03:31] <reiki_work> Nox_ville: I don't honestly recall errors installing. I know it used teh nv driver by default and then I had to move up to the nVidia drivers
[03:31] <Fujitsu> ppd, install the vim package. vim-tiny is included by default, which has fewer features.
[03:31] <lupine_85> JebJoya: the dapper drivers were a year out of date, and didn't play well with the kernel
[03:31] <Nox_ville> reiki_work: oh.. kewl
[03:31] <surfi_boi> ohh and now in my dir there appears to be a test file
[03:31] <lupine_85> trust me - it works :)
[03:31] <vorbote> ppd: The default vim installation is minimal. You can install a full non-graphical vim from wither the CD or the repositories.
[03:31] <thefish> surfi_boi: you can write then, ls /home/o and you will see a new file called "test"
[03:31] <JebJoya> that;s cool, thanks for that :)
[03:31] <JebJoya> yay!
[03:31] <lupine_85> np
[03:32] <Nox_ville> OK: General Poll: Mark Shuttleworth has a tiny penis (message all responses via pvt message)
[03:32] <surfi_boi> thefish: excellent :) i can see that so i can write to my new partition it seems
[03:32] <ppd> thank you Fujitsu and vorbote. what's the reason for not including it?!
[03:32] <gilnim> does somebody know the little panel icon for xchat? I want get it back! - you could click on it and Xchat would disappear
[03:32] <gilnim> !xchat
[03:32] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[03:32] <Fujitsu> ppd, vim is like 10MB or so, it's massive.
[03:33] <reiki_work> would it be worthwhile to upgrade from teh RC cd and then update from that point? Or would I be creating problems?
[03:33] <kitche> gilnim: think it's in xchat preferences
[03:33] <Fujitsu> reiki_work: That will work fine.
[03:33] <thefish> surfi_boi: yay! just make sure its in /etc/fstab, and think about a different mountpoint (it does not have to be in /home for others to write to it
[03:33] <surfi_boi> excellent so it appears i can write to my new directory :) thankyou so much thefish :)
[03:33] <surfi_boi> thefish:how do i make sure its in /etc/fstab
[03:33] <surfi_boi> and will it automount when i start linux
[03:33] <reiki_work> Fujitsu: thanks... that'll be my contribution to conserving bandwidth since I just downloaded that iso a couple days ago :)
[03:33] <thefish> surfi_boi: also, you will need to chmod ugo+rwx for others to be able to read write and execute from it
[03:34] <Dragonfire1_> test
[03:34] <tritium> good night, Fujitsu
[03:34] <Fujitsu> reiki_work: No problem, and thankyou for being considerate of the download servers :)
[03:34] <Fujitsu> See ya, tritium.
[03:34] <Fujitsu> Dragonfire1_: Failed.
[03:34] <thefish> surfi_boi: ok, you got me, i use vi, but its not very user friendly at first, cant remember the default editor for ubuntu, maybe gedit?
[03:34] <gilnim> kitche: it's not - i checked
[03:35] <Fujitsu> thefish: Try nano; it's CLI based and simple.
[03:35] <Tschaka> gilnom
[03:35] <Fujitsu> (and installed by default)
[03:35] <Tschaka> xchat-trayicon imho
[03:35] <thefish> surfi_boi: there you go, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:35] <thefish> cheers Fujitsu
[03:35] <Fujitsu> thefish: No problem, that's what I'm here for :)
[03:35] <NET||abuse> hi guys,, having trouble getting my screens right with nvidia beta driver.. i have 2 screens plugged in, one 15" and one 19"
[03:35] <gilnim> Tschaka: thx
[03:35] <Nox_ville> hurray
[03:35] <NET||abuse> it's jumping onto the blasted 15" and not useing 19"
[03:36] <niksavel> in the update howto is said I need to run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 after dist-upgrade, but I get that kubuntu-desktop could not be installed because it has unmet dependencies
[03:36] <Tschaka> gilnim sry, my bad: xchat-systray or xchat-systray-integration
[03:36] <thefish> surfi_boi: once you have edited it, make sure you have the mount point directory ready (mkdir /mountpointnameyouchose), then sudo mount -a -o,remount
[03:36] <surfi_boi> thefish:and what exactly am i changing in the file
[03:36] <niksavel> dist-upgrade also said 39 not upgraded
[03:37] <thefish> surfi_boi: look for /home/o and change it to /whateveryouchoose
[03:37] <mario__> hello!
[03:37] <thefish> surfi_boi: obviously, change that ;)
[03:37] <c0nf> hello -
[03:37] <niksavel> can any1 help?
[03:37] <Fujitsu> niksavel: Ensure you run dist-upgrade twice.
[03:37] <UNDERsoN> what size of DVD image Edgy Ubuntu?
[03:37] <WooD> Is there a big difference between Dapper and Edgy ?
[03:37] <thefish> niksavel: dont worry, its probably because of a dependancy that couldnt be solved right now, it will sort itself out
[03:37] <Fujitsu> See you all tomorrow, and happy Edgy day!
[03:37] <Yancho|BNC> does gcc come with ubuntu or i have to download it extra ?
[03:37] <i386> yay edgy
[03:37] <nashnash> thefish
[03:37] <nashnash> What is the matrix?
[03:37] <Fujitsu> WooD: of course!
[03:37] <nashnash> I Know Kongfu
[03:37] <niksavel> fujitsu: yes I ded
[03:38] <niksavel> did
[03:38] <Fujitsu> Yancho|BNC: Extra. Install build-essential
[03:38] <gilnim> nashnash: ask Neo
[03:38] <UNDERsoN> what size of DVD image Edgy Ubuntu?
[03:38] <thefish> nashnash: i am not at liberty to answer that
[03:38] <niksavel> several times
[03:38] <apokryphos> WooD: yes, see the release notes
[03:38] <Fujitsu> !repeat | UNDERsoN
[03:38] <ubotu> UNDERsoN: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:38] <WooD> OK
[03:38] <Fujitsu> niksavel: Are they python packages?
[03:38] <kzv> !edgy
[03:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[03:38] <gilnim> !patience
[03:38] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:38] <surfi_boi> thefish: and sorry how do i change the partition so it is automatically mounted on boot
[03:38] <det> Text looks nicer in Edgy than Dapper.
[03:38] <NET||abuse> so does anyone know how to change which screen is default, i need to get a different screen as the one X loads up on
[03:39] <thefish> surfi_boi: /etc/fstab does that - anything in there is automatically mounted
[03:39] <hume> where do I place a script that unlocks my encrypted partitions, so it runs at login / boot, and asks me for a password? I have a simple shesscript for it, running dmcrypt
[03:39] <hume> shellscritp
[03:39] <niksavel> Fujitsu: mostly yes
[03:39] <Dimensions> kitche: what shoujld i do now ... abt mysql.sock ?
[03:39] <cafuego> hume: A script that contains the password?
[03:39] <George> Hello can somebody help me please
[03:39] <hume> cafuego, no, that asks me for it
[03:39] <thefish> Dimensions: its a socket for mysql, some apps communicate via it to mysql
[03:39] <gnomefreak> !helpme | George
[03:39] <ubotu> George: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:39] <George> Edy Eft does it come with out of the box twinview aixgl?
[03:39] <kitche> Dimensions: well you can do sudo updatedb && locate mysql.sock just to make sure it's not in a place that it shouldn't be
[03:40] <cafuego> hume: Is the homedir encrypted or a different data partition?
[03:40] <mario__> I'm from Chile (southamerica) and I work in a local University, we want to create an official ubuntu mirror. We'd like to do some privates tests on it and after that open it to Internet
[03:40] <hume> cafuego, a different partition, or really a loopback device
[03:40] <eva> i am trying to update with my cd but it dont work anyone knows what to do
[03:40] <Jfrench> Is Edgy officially out yet?
[03:40] <kitche> Jfrench: yes
[03:40] <Fujitsu> Jfrench: yes, see the topic.
[03:40] <Tschaka> yep
[03:40] <apokryphos> Jfrench: /topic
[03:40] <Yancho|BNC> is there some way i can download the extra files which are available to download through the download manager pls ?
[03:40] <mario__> the questions is: can I do that with rsync or another tool?
[03:41] <Eleaf> !milks
[03:41] <apokryphos> mario__: Hi. Check the wiki page for instructions on becoming a mirror
[03:41] <NET||abuse> hey guys,, canyone able to help me with controlling which monitor X loads up on?
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about milks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <cafuego> hume: *nod* You could interface the script via zenity and run it via the gnome sessions/startup panel.
[03:41] <NET||abuse> i've tried setting things in xorg.conf, now my screens don't power up :(
[03:41] <Jfrench> LoL iKnew i was gonna get spamed with that after i asked, i always forget
[03:41] <cafuego> mario__: debmirror basically, afaik.
[03:41] <George> Edy Eft does it come with out of the box twinview aixgl? <-- Can somebody answer please?
[03:41] <Dimensions> kitche:  the command does nothing ... its just gone doing nothing at all ...
[03:42] <hume> cafuego, interface via zenity? how do I do that? got any instructions somwhere?
[03:42] <kitche> Dimensions: it might not while it's updating the db
[03:42] <Adriano> George: I don't think so
[03:42] <kitche> Dimensions: anyways I have to go since I have English Class in the morning
[03:42] <hume> cafuego, i run KDE, but I guess KDEs autostart is equivalent
[03:42] <cafuego> hume: 'man zenity' :-)  it's *really* easy.
[03:42] <George> So is it hard to set up xgl in Edgy Eft?
[03:42] <kuja> Can someone guide me as to how I can update my Ubuntu box at home, that does not have a net connection? I have access to a Windows box with an internet connection, but having this, how can I update my Ubuntu box at home (removable media)
[03:42] <hume> cafuego, ok, i'll check
[03:42] <pyranha> this may be an odd question....but is there any way to make ubuntu/linux be login free?  i.e. not have a login and password prompt and just login to the desktop?
[03:42] <Fujitsu> George: not at all, but ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:42] <cafuego> hume: Yeah... just so you get prompted at login or somesuch.
[03:42] <Dimensions> ahhh kitche sure ... brof ... but what should i do after that command returns ?
[03:42] <Fujitsu> pyranha: System->Administration->Login Screen
[03:42] <niksavel> BIG problems after upgrading to edgy
[03:42] <cafuego> s/at/after/
[03:42] <niksavel> help please
[03:43] <reiki_work> kuja: topic has link for how to upgrade, and includes a CD method
[03:43] <mikm[laptop] > pyranha If you go to the login settings page (under system-> administration)
[03:43] <George> ok thank you Fujitsu
[03:43] <Adriano> pyranha: there's a way
[03:43] <mikm[laptop] > Bah,
[03:43] <maxb_at_work> Is there anyone using svnjavahl with eclipse in Edgy? I had it working in Dapper, but now it causes the VM to die.
[03:43] <Adriano> that's the way
[03:43] <niksavel> pretty please
[03:43] <kuja> reiki_work: No, I'm talking about upgrading my dapper with new packages, not the distribution.
[03:43] <niksavel> dont have xorg, and it wont install
[03:43] <Tjoels> how do you install firefox 2? it's in a tar.gz file. Is it source?
[03:44] <finalbeta> how fast are the downloads going?
[03:44] <Fujitsu> OK, attempting to go the bed for the third time now...
[03:44] <Adriano> niksavel: error messages?
[03:44] <Fujitsu> Tjoels: Don't attempt it on Dapper, pllllease.
[03:44] <apokryphos> 'night Fujitsu :)
[03:44] <Adriano> Tjoels: it's already on edgy
[03:44] <mista> just installed 6.06 any point to update to 6.10?
[03:44] <Adriano> mista
[03:44] <Tjoels> Fujitsu: why? cause theres only one day or so till edgy?
[03:44] <raiXer> it has gnome 2.16 and Upstart
[03:45] <Adriano> mista: maybe
[03:45] <pyranha> the boot sequence is supposed to be way faster
[03:45] <elkbuntu> Tjoels, edgy is actually out
[03:45] <Kameli> Hey, need i type gksu "update-manager -c" in tty2 with CTRL+ALT+F2 without X, or in gnome terminal?
[03:45] <kofwang> can desktop install CD upgrades 6.06 to 6.10 using sudo apt-cdrom add and sudo apt-get update?
[03:45] <Tschaka> kameli in gonme terminal
[03:45] <Tschaka> with x started
[03:45] <Adriano> gksu won't work without X,  AFAIK
[03:45] <Kameli> Tschaka: ok :)
[03:45] <CarinArr> would update-manager work wihtout a gui?
[03:46] <Tjoels> elkbuntu: eh, is it? :D wtf. can you do an upgrade install to keep all the programs and stuff?
[03:46] <raiXer> yes
[03:46] <mista> how do i make mplayer only open once each time i click on a video/music file?
[03:46] <raiXer> Tjoels, yes
[03:46] <gnomefreak> CarinArr: no
[03:46] <kofwang> can desktop install CD upgrades 6.06 to 6.10 using sudo apt-cdrom add and sudo apt-get update?
[03:46] <Tschaka> carinarr i suppose you need to choose the apt-get distupgrade option then but dunno.
[03:46] <UNDERsoN> where can I download a DVD image not CD!
[03:46] <gnomefreak> kofwang: update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:46] <eva> i like to change in my source file but i cant save it how do i so that
[03:46] <Adriano> aargh. too confusing, too many repeated questions. Better be back when people calm down
[03:46] <Adriano> byes
[03:46] <reiki_work> UNDERsoN: DVD images not available yet
[03:47] <reiki_work> or at least that's my understanding
[03:47] <Tjoels> raiXer: great!
[03:47] <UNDERsoN> reiki_work and when it would be avalible?
[03:47] <mista> ok so i have a raid 0 (X2 80Gig drives how do mount it? ive read up on it and still cant work it out
[03:47] <reiki_work> UNDERsoN: maybe a few hours? I don't know
[03:47] <gnomefreak> UNDERsoN: hold on a sec
[03:48] <lupine_85> ...
[03:48] <niksavel> anyone got a minute to help me out with this edgy upgrade...  seems to have messed up my x, and I'll have to shut down soon and prolly wont be able to start the comp again.... :/
[03:48] <lupine_85> all that "don't update until we tell you to!", and there's absolutely no change between edgy 00:00BST and edgy release
[03:48] <eva> i like to open a source file how do i do it
[03:48] <eva> and change in it
[03:48] <gnomefreak> UNDERsoN: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/   is what people have been using
[03:48] <reiki_work> eva: you need to sudo to save the /etc/at-sources.list file
[03:48] <UNDERsoN> gnomefreak Thank you!!
[03:48] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:49] <davvs_> how can i see how much disk space i have left on a disk from commandline?
[03:49] <rwscold> hey ummm i cant boot the live cd not even in safe mode start of x fails blah blah no screens found or whatever
[03:49] <eva> reiki_work sudo in the terminal window
[03:49] <lupine_85> df -h
[03:49] <davvs_> ok thanks lupine_85
[03:49] <niksavel> somebody who knows stuff please give me a minute of your time: :)
[03:49] <lupine_85> niksavel: what's it done?
[03:50] <reiki_work> eva: in terminal sudo gedit /etc/aptsources.list
[03:50] <AlanHaggai> when I type gksu "update-manager -c"
[03:50] <Tjoels> can you update to edgy without dl'ing and burning a cd?
[03:50] <rwscold> hey ummm i cant boot the live cd not even in safe mode start of x fails blah blah no screens found or whatever
[03:50] <AlanHaggai> to update my 6.06 to 6.10
[03:50] <reiki_work> I might have mistyped that. :)  going too fast
[03:50] <dabaR> Tjoels: yes.
[03:50] <NET||abuse> i got a real problem, i've done somethign silly with xorg.conf, gdm start brings up X ok, but i've got nothing on the screen, it goes into power save mode??? anyone know what i can do here?
[03:50] <KenSentMe> Has Feisty been released yet :P
[03:50] <dabaR> !upgrade
[03:50] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:50] <dooglus> hi guys.  I just tried using apt-get to update to edgy, but it complains that problems were encourtered while processing acpid and acpi-support.  What can I do?
[03:50] <lupine_85> in general, just make sure that you reinstall ubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu-desktop or whatever) before you restart, and you're fine
[03:50] <AlanHaggai> It says my system is already updated
[03:50] <Tjoels> dabaR, how?
[03:50] <AlanHaggai> why so?
[03:50] <lupine_85> !update
[03:50] <yoshiznit123> yay, edgy! :-P
[03:51] <lupine_85> Tjoels: like that :)
[03:51] <mista> ok so i have a raid 0 (X2 80Gig drives) how do mount it? ive read up on it and still cant work it out
[03:51] <dabaR> Tjoels: read this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:51] <yoshiznit123> oh wait i've already been running it
[03:51] <daflat> wooooo
[03:51] <daflat> upgrading to edgy now
[03:51] <Tjoels> lupine_85: just "!update"? :D :D :D :D :P
[03:51] <dabaR> AlanHaggai: sudo aptitude update, maybe
[03:51] <daflat> gonna take another 40 mins
[03:51] <AlanHaggai> ok
[03:51] <AlanHaggai> thanks
[03:51] <lupine_85> heh, no. ubotu is meant to tell you about it
[03:51] <Tjoels> dabaR, thx
[03:51] <cafuego> mista: Load the modules, start mdadm and mound /dev/md0
[03:51] <AlanHaggai> will try that
[03:51] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: do u have the edgy repositories in ur sources.list ?
[03:51] <lupine_85> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes is the link
[03:51] <apokryphos> For upgrading, please read the instructions in the /topic
[03:51] <AlanHaggai> let me check _deb_
[03:51] <daflat> my laptop was a clean install...
[03:52] <mista> load wht modules?
[03:52] <daflat> this old box is gonna be updated!
[03:52] <cafuego> the raid ones
[03:52] <daflat> Breezy---->Dapper----->Edgy
[03:52] <dabaR> daflat: stop sending irrelevant to us messages.
[03:52] <cafuego> I'm assuming you nean kernel mode software raid.
[03:52] <hume> cafuego, i'm fiddling with zenity, found out how to make a dialog asking for password, but how do I send that to the cryptsetup-command?
[03:52] <niksavel>  <niksavel>   xorg: Depends: libgl1-mesa-glx but it is not going to be installed
[03:52] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: if not just replace dapper with edgy and start a sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[03:52] <_lemsx1_> daflat: Breezy --> cross fingers --> Edgy
[03:52] <mista> nope dont understand
[03:52] <asdx|work> will ubuntu shipt 6.10 cds someday?
[03:52] <apokryphos> _lemsx1_: no, that will break
[03:52] <cafuego> hume: Store it in an env var in the script and pass it as option (orwecho it in)
[03:53] <lupine_85> _lemsx1_: that will break *badly*
[03:53] <lupine_85> go through dapper
[03:53] <cafuego> mista: If you're using on-board software raid I can't help you.
[03:53] <apokryphos> Everyone: for upgrading, please read the instructions in the /topic
[03:53] <_lemsx1_> apokryphos: crossing your fingers?
[03:53] <dabaR> asdx|work: no http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[03:53] <niksavel> lupine_85: help? :)
[03:53] <cafuego> Short of advising you not to
[03:53] <mista> using nforce 4 sata drives
[03:53] <AlanHaggai> _deb_ : 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:53] <hume> cafuego, sorry, not that good at scripts. how do I echo it in?
[03:53] <AlanHaggai> that's what I get :(
[03:53] <cafuego> mista: Yeah, "don't".
[03:53] <apokryphos> _lemsx1_: yes, skipping a version in a dist-upgrade is explicitly not supported.
[03:53] <lupine_85> !info libgl-mesa-glx edgy
[03:53] <ubotu> Package libgl-mesa-glx does not exist in edgy
[03:53] <nashnash> eeh someone knows if the printer (deskjet) and my scanner (hp scanjet) will work @ ubuntu?
[03:53] <lupine_85> !info libgl1-mesa-glx edgy
[03:53] <ubotu> libgl1-mesa-glx: A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 164 kB, installed size 524 kB
[03:54] <hume> cafuego, cryptsetup <stuff> << zenity <stuff>?
[03:54] <dabaR> AlanHaggai: have you ever edited your sources.list?
[03:54] <AlanHaggai> no
[03:54] <lupine_85> niksavel: try installing that package directly
[03:54] <_lemsx1_> apokryphos: gotcha
[03:54] <niksavel> what does that mean?
[03:54] <mista> dont?
[03:54] <lupine_85> means it's there :)
[03:54] <luki> Geez I did an upgrade and now my system drops me into console ...
[03:54] <MattJ> nashnash, Your Deskjet certainly should
[03:54] <niksavel> how?
[03:54] <luki> after reboot
[03:54] <lupine_85> sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx
[03:54] <luki> does anyone have idea how to fix that easily ?  please
[03:54] <lupine_85> worst-case scenario, you'll find out *why* it's not updating
[03:54] <lupine_85> luki: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:54] <dooglus> hi guys.  I just tried using apt-get to update to edgy, but it complains that problems were encourtered while processing acpid and acpi-support.  What can I do?
[03:54] <MattJ> nashnash, HP printers work well in Ubuntu. I haven't tried my scanner yet
[03:55] <nashnash> thanks
[03:55] <cafuego> hume: $PASSWORD=$(zenity --entry --title Password --text "Please enter your password:")
[03:55] <nashnash> ;)
[03:55] <cafuego> hume: Then echo"$PASSWORD" | command that reads the password off stdin.
[03:55] <MarcN> nashnash: I have an hp 1515(?) printer/scanner/copier and works fine for scanning, printing
[03:55] <hume> cafuego, thanks, great!!
[03:55] <AlanHaggai> nothing is working for me to update to 6.10 :(
[03:55] <soundray> dooglus: re-run apt-get dist-upgrade, then try apt-get -f install
[03:56] <lupine_85> don't forget to sudo apt-get update as well...
[03:56] <dabaR> AlanHaggai: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, then post the file to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:56] <nashnash> MarcN , and which program do u use for scanning ?
[03:56] <yoshiznit123> when will edgy get to all the mirrors? i'd rather download from gulus.usherbrooke cause i can get 4 Mb/s
[03:56] <_lemsx1_> AlanHaggai: then backup and re-install from CD
[03:56] <cafuego> mista: nforce softraid is proprietary.
[03:56] <nikin> alan: make a fresh install
[03:56] <luki> lupine_85: Thanks it is doing that now
[03:56] <nikin> thats allways the best :D
[03:56] <dabaR> dooglus: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:56] <mario__> apokryphos: thanks!
[03:56] <MarcN> nashnash: there are a few -- kooka, xscan, etc
[03:56] <det> Is there any way to use the mplayer mozilla plug-in instead of the totem one? Removing totem-mozilla forces me to remove ubuntu-desktop, which I don't want to do.
[03:56] <apokryphos> np
[03:56] <cafuego> mista: The in-kernel softraid driver is 1) faster 2) more reliable
[03:57] <eva> reiki_work thanks alot do you know how to install acrobat reader
[03:57] <nashnash> ah, nice. currently @ windows i use HP Imaging & editing \ HP Director - its own progs of the scanner, i got it with my cd
[03:57] <kuja> I want to put the Ubuntu repository of i386 packages on my iPod so I can upgrade at home. What's the easy way?
[03:57] <luki> lupine_85: Okey I got that installed what now ?
[03:57] <nashnash> i hoped there is the same for linux
[03:57] <ehird> soundray: well it installed, thank you
[03:57] <dabaR> det: well, to remove the totem plugin for mozilla, you will have to remove ubuntu-desktop,, which is not a big deal, but remember to put it back on when upgrading to a new version.
[03:57] <kuja> I want all i386 packages from main, multiverse, restricted, and universe. How can I do this?
[03:57] <yoshiznit123> kuja, do you have to use an ipod? a cd or dvd would work a lot easier
[03:57] <lupine_85> luki: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm reload
[03:57] <soundray> det: this was discussed here yesterday. Apparently the trick is to touch the mozilla *.so files, then they'll be used in preference.
[03:58] <det> dabaR, I'd prefer to keep them both installed and then set a precedence.
[03:58] <kuja> yoshiznit123: Well, if it were a CD, then I could create an image and put it on my iPod, take it home, and mount it.
[03:58] <nikin> kuja: sodo apt-get install *
[03:58] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28434/
[03:58] <det> soundray, thanks!
[03:58] <kuja> nikin: The box with remote capabilities is a Windows box.
[03:58] <dabaR> kuja: download the iso to the ipod, then install from the iso
[03:58] <luki> lupine_85: I acctualy restarted machine :/ - sorry I will give it a try in a sec
[03:58] <soundray> ehird: I'm glad. Did you find what the snag was?
[03:58] <kuja> dabaR: The ISO doesn't have the other pools like multivers and universe
[03:58] <AlanHaggai>  _deb_  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28435/
[03:58] <niksavel> lupine_85: thanks that helped, I only have one prob... kubuntu-desktop wont install because ktorrent is not installed, trying to install it manually gives:
[03:58] <Kawaii-Panda> oh, man. flash 9 doesnt seem to work on my 64-bit firefox 2 :(
[03:58] <det> soundray, touch the mplayer mozilla files, I assume?
[03:59] <cafuego> Kawaii-Panda: Nope.
[03:59] <dabaR> kuja: yes, it does not.
[03:59] <ehird> soundray: nope... it just worked
[03:59] <kuja> dabaR: I want them.
[03:59] <soundray> det: yes
[03:59] <pyranha> why is it if I try to remove ubuntu-sounds it wants to remove gdm and if I want to remove alsa it wants to remove ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-base?
[03:59] <niksavel>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/config.kcfg/ktsearchplugin.kcfg', which is also in package ktorrent-2.0
[03:59] <ehird> maybe because i deleted and readded the linux partition with ubuntu
[03:59] <dooglus> soundray, dabaR: I tried all 3 of your suggestions.  they all failed.  here's a log: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/apt-get.txt
[03:59] <Kawaii-Panda> anyway, im testing something called simple64 i found on the ubuntuforums.
[03:59] <pyranha> these are not dependencies in other distros
[03:59] <ole> anyone have a fast link to > xubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso <
[03:59] <soundray> ehird: well stranger things have happened...
[03:59] <Kawaii-Panda> i hope it helps my situation.
[03:59] <lupine_85> niksavel: then remove ktorrent-2.0
[03:59] <det> soundray, did the trick, thanks
[03:59] <cafuego> Kawaii-Panda: If you want flash, just run 32bit Linux. Much easier, and stuff "just works".
[03:59] <luki> lupine_85: Okey I did that - now when I do /etc/init.d/gdm restart he fails to start :(
[03:59] <nashnash> eeh MarcN , kooka looks nice. http://www.tuxmachines.org/gallery/albums/pclos92f/kooka.jpg
[03:59] <Xzanron> /topic
[04:00] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: it's says dapper . u need to have edgy repositories in that .  check here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28434/
[04:00] <cafuego> (and no, it's not half as fast ;-)
[04:00] <lupine_85> luki: error message?
[04:00] <AlanHaggai> I see _deb_
[04:00] <dabaR> kuja: well, you will have to download them by hand then. You are not gonna download all of universe and multivers. you can find out what packages you have installd with sudo dpkg -l at home, and then download newest versions of all your packages at packages.ubuntu.com
[04:00] <AlanHaggai> thanks :) will try that
[04:00] <lupine_85> check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:00] <mista> ok i dl 6.06Live CD, and i a AMD 3200+ 939 should i update the ker?
[04:00] <niksavel> lupine_85:  how?
[04:00] <Kawaii-Panda> cafuego: but that would be thinking backwards, if everyone used 32-bit, 64bit computing would never be propelled,
[04:00] <kuja> dabaR: That's a lot of packages to download by hand, even if I *knew* what needed to be upgraded.
[04:00] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: Just replace the source.list with the one you see in the pastbin .
[04:00] <ole> anyone have a fast link to > xubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso < ? msg me.
[04:00] <ehird> still can't get my net working with it :/
[04:00] <lupine_85> sudo apt-get remove ktorrent-2.0
[04:01] <Kawaii-Panda> think about the next generation :-$
[04:01] <niksavel> lupine_85:  no work
[04:01] <AlanHaggai> ok _deb_ done :)
[04:01] <_lemsx1_> ole: use torrent link
[04:01] <lupine_85> then sudo dpkg -r ktorrent-2.0
[04:01] <cafuego> Kawaii-Panda: Well, _you_ want to run 32bit stuff.
[04:01] <kuja> I have a script that can download all i386 packages from all pools at archive.ubuntu.com, but that would take a long time, even with threads.
[04:01] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: the do a sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get upgrade .
[04:01] <soundray> dooglus: find out why the start of acpid fails. Watch the output from 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' while you do a '/etc/init.d/acpid start'
[04:01] <kuja> I was wondering if there was an image, maybe.
[04:01] <cafuego> Kawaii-Panda: You can either shoot yourself in the foot or not.
[04:01] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: the check if u can upgrade
[04:01] <luki> lupine_85: Nothing major in a logs ... :(
[04:01] <yoshiznit123> kuja, i think there's a dvd of main
[04:01] <cafuego> Kawaii-Panda: I share a homedir between a 32bit install and a 64bit install.
[04:01] <AlanHaggai> ok _deb_ thank you very much for the help :)
[04:01] <eva> a good cd player for ubuntu that can play cd and dvd
[04:01] <lupine_85> there's going to be something...
[04:01] <dabaR> kuja: no
[04:01] <luki> lupine_85: nothing unusual I suppose
[04:01] <luki> checking ...
[04:01] <nikin> hy eva
[04:02] <lupine_85> ...in the lack of any good error messages, try a reboot
[04:02] <kuja> yoshiznit123: Main is small enough I can just grab it with my script in no time :(
[04:02] <nikin> did you managge the acrorread stuff?
[04:02] <luki> trying now
[04:02] <niksavel> lupine_85:  that worked, thanks a bunch m8!  you really helped me out
[04:02] <acuster> Hey all, is there a way to install all the packages needed to compile a package?
[04:02] <kuja> I guess I'll just have to rely on this script then, to grab all pools
[04:02] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: u r w :)
[04:02] <lupine_85> acuster: apt-get build-dep <package>
[04:02] <Kawaii-Panda> hmmm... i should consider dual-booting too though. anyway, is watching flash movies in your 64-bit system too much to ask?
[04:02] <lupine_85> np
[04:02] <soundray> acuster: apt-get build-depends
[04:02] <acuster> thanks lupine_85
[04:02] <lupine_85> Kawaii-Panda: no, check the forum
[04:02] <thoreauputic> acuster:  apt-get build-dep
[04:02] <lupine_85> it's perfectly possible
[04:02] <Kawaii-Panda> * quadruple booting *
[04:02] <soundray> acuster: oops, don't listen to me
[04:02] <Kawaii-Panda> k.
[04:02] <dooglus> soundray: syslog shows "Oct 26 16:02:27 chrislap kernel: [17183197.164000]  ibm_acpi: ec object not found"
[04:02] <cafuego> Kawaii-Panda: Ask the owners of the proprietary technology that is failing you >;-)
[04:02] <nikin> Kawaii: ask macromedia
[04:02] <nikin> :D
[04:02] <mjr> Kawaii-Panda, no, but installing and using the proprietary flash plugin will require tweaking on your part
[04:03] <eva> nikin no i did not get it right
[04:03] <lupine_85> it'll become even easier if Macromedia get round to releasing an x86_64 bit plugin
[04:03] <LeeJunFan> anyone know why screen "windowlist" might not be working?
[04:03] <nikin> eva: get it from acrobat.com
[04:03] <Kawaii-Panda> hmm... i just read on the adobe website that they are developing flash 8.5 for 64-bit linux
[04:03] <dooglus> soundray: maybe if I reboot into the new kernel it'll work?
[04:03] <cafuego> It's become even easier if they GPLed the plugin.
[04:03] <nikin> the tar.gz version
[04:03] <soundray> dooglus: okay, this is probably because you aren't running the new kernel yet.
[04:03] <Kawaii-Panda> thats odd, isnt flash 9 beta out already?
[04:03] <soundray> dooglus: no, hold on...
[04:03] <luki> Just found that : (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable - nothing else
[04:03] <mjr> cafuego, indeed
[04:03] <kuja> Apparently apt-zip is pretty useless on Windows too
[04:03] <lupine_85> ok, that's the problem...
[04:03] <nikin> it has an easy to use installscript
[04:03] <nikin> and it works
[04:03] <luki> that might be a reason ?
[04:03] <lupine_85> ...turn off AIGLX ?
[04:03] <eva> nikin i did get the file from acrobat.com
[04:04] <lupine_85> or enable the dri module
[04:04] <mandelum> coul you update from breezy to edgy whitout a cd only net, floppy, usb and old an bios?
[04:04] <dooglus> soundray: I updated just a few weeks ago, so I'm probably running quite a recent edgy kernel
[04:04] <lupine_85> (or disable it if it is enableD)
[04:04] <nikin> eva: you could not unpack it?
[04:04] <bowman> heya. running 6.06.1 on a sever; where do I get kernel sources? I'm unable to find an appropriate package with apt
[04:04] <bowman> s/sever/server/g
[04:04] <luki> how to turn it off ?  I got DRI enabled - so maybe thats an issue with my graphics card
[04:04] <cafuego> eva: acroread is packaged in multiverse, enable and use apt-get install.
[04:04] <lupine_85> it could also just be that the new video drivers/kernel modules haven't been loaded up yet
[04:04] <dooglus> soundray: uname -r tells me "2.6.17-10-generic"
[04:04] <dabaR> mandelum: upgrade to dapper first.
[04:04] <lupine_85> e.g. a restart would work
[04:04] <Chousuke> bowman: linux-source
[04:04] <soundray> dooglus: other packages may still be in limbo. Better to force a success of the /var/lib/dpkg/info/acpid.postinst script by inserting 'exit 0' as the second line
[04:04] <AlanHaggai> what to do to boot directly to tty?
[04:04] <_deb_> mandelum: sure. just add edgy repository and do a upgrade.
[04:04] <cafuego> bowman: linux-source-VERSION
[04:04] <luki> lupine_85: I did restar - nothing has changed
[04:04] <_lemsx1_> mandelum: sure. download all the new packages locally first. then use your floppy to boot to the installation
[04:05] <dabaR> mandelum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[04:05] <bowman> --thanks--
[04:05] <dooglus> soundray: isn't that an ugly hack?
[04:05] <lupine_85> ah. try toggling your dri module's status, then
[04:05] <soundray> dooglus: oh, so you already have rebooted. My previous line still applies. Force the success of the acpid install and complete your installation.
[04:05] <eva> nikin i did unpack it what do i do then
[04:05] <soundray> dooglus: of course. Did you expect a clean solution on IRC?
[04:05] <mandelum> so I should go Breezy - dapper - edgy
[04:05] <soundray> :)
[04:05] <nikin> start the install program.. INSTALL
[04:05] <apokryphos> mandelum: yes
[04:05] <_lemsx1_> mandelum: ah, sorry. I assumed your system could not do "upgrade" by itself
[04:06] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: how do you try to get the window list?
[04:06] <W_McL> AlanHaggai: go into the grub menu (e.g. by hitting esc) and select a "recovery mode" kernel
[04:06] <cafuego> eva: acroread is packaged in multiverse, enable and use apt-get install.
[04:06] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, then check your video drivers are still installed; maybe try switching to the vesa driver temporarily; you could also try disabling AIGLX (not sure how)
[04:06] <sneikas> Can you update ubuntu system to the new one, just released?
[04:06] <nikin> open a console
[04:06] <cafuego> eva: There is no need to mess about with downloaded tarballs.
[04:06] <AlanHaggai> thanks W_McL
[04:06] <nikin> cd to the dir you extracted the stuff to
[04:06] <W_McL> AlanHaggai: the system wil boot into a root console
[04:06] <raghu206> how to make beagle to search gaim IM cache ..?
[04:06] <mandelum> apokryphos: thanks!
[04:06] <_deb_> sneikas: sure.
[04:06] <dabaR> sneikas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[04:06] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone. What command can I use to unlock my packaging system? Reboot didn't help.
[04:06] <AlanHaggai> can I get to the GUI from that?
[04:06] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: I've got a remote setup to use screen as deflogin, in .screenrc for the user I have added windowlist -b, no luck.
[04:07] <cafuego> Zoohouse: remove the lock file.
[04:07] <nikin> sudo bash
[04:07] <ole> the torrent for xubuntu is slow.
[04:07] <nikin> ./install
[04:07] <sneikas> _deb_, what's the difference between fresh and updated?
[04:07] <ole> hasnt start downloaded yet.
[04:07] <apokryphos> nikin: no, to get into a root shell the recommended method is sudo -i
[04:07] <Zoohouse> cafuego: where is this file located?
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: all the other options in .screenrc are working, so I know it's parsing it.
[04:07] <soundray> dooglus: it's not a very risky hack in any case. But to get around what is clearly a bug, you sometimes have to take unusual measures.
[04:07] <nikin> and answer yes to the default stuff
[04:07] <Zoohouse> cafuego: or what is it called
[04:07] <_lemsx1_> Zoohouse: the lock file is in /var/cache/apt or so
[04:07] <cafuego> nikin: Please, don't make people do that for software that's IN ubuntu already.
[04:07] <Zoohouse> Thanks
[04:07] <ehird> will Kubuntu Edgy include build-essentials etc.? ;)
[04:07] <dooglus> soundray: it's worked anyway.  thanks.
[04:07] <nikin> apokryphos: okok, sorry :D
[04:08] <apokryphos> ehird: I think it's on the disk, but not installed by default
[04:08] <sneikas> What's the difference between fresh install of new Ubuntu and updated?
[04:08] <cafuego> nikin: eva can use apt-get install acroread after enabling multiverse.
[04:08] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: i get my window list with a appropriate hardstatus definition
[04:08] <dooglus> soundray: I was thinking it might be better to fix it so it works for everyone, not just me...
[04:08] <ole> does anyone have xubuntu 6.10 with a fast link?
[04:08] <ehird> apokryphos: looks like i'll be manually installing kde then
[04:08] <ole> or an url.
[04:08] <sneikas> What's the difference between fresh install of new Ubuntu and updated?
[04:08] <dooglus> ole: I expect the torrent is very fast
[04:08] <nikin> cafuego: there where problems with the ubuntu version ...
[04:08] <apokryphos> ehird: why?
[04:08] <ehird> sneikas: ones updated, the other isn't
[04:08] <soundray> dooglus: when you've finished the install, undo the change to the postinst script and try to reproduce the error. If you can, report it.
[04:08] <reiki_work> ok... too much activity here for me to keep open while at work. You guys are having too much fun. I'll upgrade from home later this weekend :)
[04:08] <ehird> apokryphos: because i have to do ltos of compiling to get my modem to work
[04:08] <cafuego> nikin: such as?
[04:08] <axisys> it seems impossible to remove lighttpd pkg on edgy eft http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/qNfFOb11.html
[04:08] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: hrm, maybe it's something to do with it being the deflogin.
[04:08] <sneikas> ehird, ehich way is better?
[04:08] <ehird> thus i can't just apt-get build-essentials etc
[04:09] <apokryphos> ehird: well, if it's on the CD all you have to do is exactly that, yes.
[04:09] <dooglus> soundray: I've removed my change.  what should I run to see if I can reproduce it?
[04:09] <ehird> sneikas: do you want to upgrade your system or install it from scratch? :p
[04:09] <schyffe> I have an amd64 cpu, if I install ubuntu-amd64, will I be able to run all programs, or do I need to find specific 64-bit programs?
[04:09] <soundray> dooglus: it certainly would be. But it's better to do that once you've become unstuck.
[04:09] <soundray> dooglus: 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install acpid'
[04:09] <axisys> need help to remove lighttpd http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/qNfFOb11.html
[04:09] <ehird> apokryphos: it needed more than build-essentials
[04:09] <_deb_> sneikas: Installing a fresh means installing Ubuntu edgy and upgrading means upgrading from a previos version to edgy
[04:09] <sneikas> i dont see difference, cuz i just installed old ubuntu
[04:09] <apokryphos> ehird: what else does it need?
[04:09] <AlanHaggai> how to forcibly quit an application?
[04:09] <nikin> the repo didnt work... but it wasnt my problem... bytheway if you are that much cooler than me, which can hapen... tell you what to do
[04:09] <soundray> dooglus: ideally after you've completed your remaining upgrades
[04:09] <cafuego> schyffe: Most stuff will run, but you will have issues with java applets, flash and video codecs.
[04:09] <_deb_> sneikas: u can upgrade it .
[04:09] <pixelPOET> AlanHaggai, "killall [appname] 
[04:09] <cafuego> nikin: <heh>
[04:10] <dabaR> sneikas: if you upgrade, your installation is intact in terms of apps you have for use, and if you reinstall, that means you lose all your installaed programs.
[04:10] <schyffe> allright, then I'll install the x86
[04:10] <sneikas> _deb_, any minuses what's wrong with upgrading?
[04:10] <dooglus> soundray: there were only 3 upgrades to do: 2 acpid ones and ubuntu-desktop
[04:10] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: i always start screen by hand
[04:10] <cafuego> eva: Never mind the tarball, here is what you do.
[04:10] <pixelPOET> AlanHaggai, or you can use "ps -aux | grep appname" and then "kill -9 [process number] "
[04:10] <nikin> cafuego: i didnt sleep for about 50 hours
[04:10] <dooglus> soundray: there are 36 packages 'kept back' - is that to be expected?
[04:10] <_deb_> sneikas: just add the edgy repository and do sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get upgrade .
[04:10] <sneikas> ok
[04:10] <AlanHaggai> ok pixelPOET. trying now
[04:10] <sneikas> :)
[04:10] <sneikas> thanks
[04:10] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: wanna have my .screenrc? just for comparing to yours
[04:10] <cafuego> eva: Download http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/dapper-seveas/extras/acroread_7.0.8-0.0_i386.deb
[04:10] <onurx> does new ubuntu(6.10) boot faster?
[04:10] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: yeah, this account I want to be able to pop in and see what's going on and also provide support and allow them to see what I'm doing.
[04:11] <LjL> onurx: yes
[04:11] <AlanHaggai> it's the Software Updates that has hung
[04:11] <nikin> so i think i go...
[04:11] <cafuego> eva: That's a completely packaged latest version; manageable by way of the package system.
[04:11] <AlanHaggai> how to kill that?
[04:11] <soundray> dooglus: that should go away if you run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install' a couple more times.
[04:11] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: so I want to make sure they are logged into screen all the time, so I can attach
[04:11] <ehird> apokryphos: i don't know, but i know ubuntu can compile it and kubuntu can't ;)
[04:11] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: okay
[04:11] <eva> nikin after sudo bash i get this Desktop/AdobeReader# ./install
[04:11] <soundray> dooglus: if it doesn't, look at the individual packages that are held and decide whether you want to upgrade them individually
[04:11] <cafuego> eva: nooo!
[04:11] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: http://84.179.98.218:28087/
[04:11] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: thanks.
[04:11] <dabaR> AlanHaggai: killall update-manager
[04:11] <apokryphos> eva: you should be using sudo -i for an ubuntu root shell
[04:11] <axisys> AlanHaggai: may want to expand .. it may be waiting for an answer.. i thought so too
[04:12] <nikin> eva: that was what i suggested
[04:12] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: got the file?
[04:12] <AlanHaggai> yes. Worked pixelPOET :)
[04:12] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: kill the upgrade process .
[04:12] <AlanHaggai> thanks
[04:12] <Turias> hello.  so im trying to upgrade my machine at home by sshing in and running 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' as mentioned in the release notes, but all thats telling me is that i have 0 packages to upgrade.  any ideas?
[04:12] <onurx> LjL:I use 6.06, is it good to upgrade or install new one?
[04:12] <AlanHaggai> thanks _deb_
[04:12] <cafuego> eva: you will _not_ be able to cleanly uninstall or upgrade it if you do that.
[04:13] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: yes. thanks.
[04:13] <axisys> how do i uninstall lighttpd .. its stuck here http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/qNfFOb11.html (sorry about repeat question)
[04:13] <LjL> onurx: upgrading should be fine. it's your choice though
[04:13] <dabaR> Turias: did you change your sources.list?
[04:13] <_deb_> Turias: do u have edgy repositories added top sources.list ?
[04:13] <odila> hola
[04:13] <odila> hola
[04:13] <Turias> no.  im just following the instructions on the upgrade page.  is there a command to do that from the terminal or do i have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually?
[04:13] <Kawaii-Panda> damned simple64, not detecting that i use 64-bit firefox.
[04:13] <onurx> LjL:I want faster boot , this is just I want, if I have this by upgrade than ok
[04:13] <odila> como estas edu
[04:13] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: I'm guessing it's a built in safety when screen is used as login shell to have it not leave it sitting at a menu for sake of not breaking scripts or something.
[04:14] <dabaR> axisys: try sudo invoke-rc.d lighttpd stop
[04:14] <oleg> hi peeps
[04:14] <dabaR> !ES
[04:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:14] <_deb_> Turias: follow this -->  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[04:14] <pyranha> the ubuntu dependency tree is WHACKED!
[04:14] <asdx|work> ubuntu wont shipit free cds anymore?
[04:14] <pyranha> completely whacked
[04:14] <axisys> dabaR: invoke-rc.d: initscript lighttpd, action "stop" failed
[04:14] <nata> hola como estais
[04:14] <dabaR> asdx|work: yes, dapper is still being shipped
[04:14] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: yeah, maybe
[04:14] <cafuego> pyranha: Go fix it, don't just complain.
[04:14] <nata>  eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[04:14] <_deb_> asdx|work: is it true ?
[04:14] <soundray> pyranha: don't jump to conclusions
[04:14] <LookTJ> brb doing fresh install of edgy
[04:14] <asdx|work> dabaR: and edgy?
[04:14] <Turias> _deb_: I'll take a look at that.  thanks
[04:14] <Dimensions> Hiya guys ... can some one tell me ... i have installed mysql , php and apache ... when i try to run mysql it says ......... Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[04:14] <_deb_> asdx|work: they rejected my last order :(
[04:15] <dabaR> asdx|work: not edgy.
[04:15] <cafuego> Dimensions: tip; the mysql server isn't running.
[04:15] <Dimensions> and therz no mysqld.sock ...
[04:15] <asdx|work> too bad, that was a nice feature... :/
[04:15] <dabaR> Dimensions: sudo invoke-rc.d mysql start
[04:15] <LjL> onurx, upgrading will give you all the benefits of edgy, including faster boot. however, if you have a particularly slow boot due to daemons that are started up at boottime (which you may have installed from packages), those will stay, and would have to be removed using APT if they are not needed.
[04:15] <soundray> Dimensions: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start'
[04:15] <Dimensions> cafuego: how do u run it ?
[04:15] <cafuego> ^^
[04:15] <rt2570> axisys: you could also try thttpd
[04:15] <pyranha> maybe I should try edgy before I condemn ubuntu to the depths of almost unusable
[04:15] <dabaR> asdx|work: you can order dapper, and not edgy cds.
[04:15] <elkbuntu> asdx|work, shipit will be continuing with the dapper cds to make the most of the extended life and better stability
[04:16] <dabaR> pyranha: stop flaming
[04:16] <dooglus> soundray: here's what happened when I ran your commands: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/apt-get-2.txt (ie. pretty much nothing - the same packages are 'held')
[04:16] <soundray> pyranha: maybe you should report your problem and ask for help
[04:16] <cafuego> dabaR: He's not. That's trolling.
[04:16] <dabaR> cafuego: hehe, it's a matter of degree
[04:17] <pyranha> I am doing neither....
[04:17] <cafuego> pyranha: If you hate it, remove it and go back to what you were using before.
[04:17] <dabaR> pyranha: it is in the eye of the beholder, so yes, you are
[04:17] <soundray> pyranha: then you're in the wrong channel.
[04:17] <pyranha> true
[04:17] <cafuego> Complaining about it here is only going to cause grief and annoyance. Not useful.
[04:18] <luki> lupine_85: Nothing helps
[04:18] <ScreaminIke> lets say i have a partition which is... less that admirably maintained. as a result, it gets checked at EVERY boot.  to be honest, it's not that important to me. if the partition starts giving me issues, i'll e2fsck it... until then, though... is there a way to prevent checking of anything but the root partition at boot?
[04:18] <kuja> Anyone know of a debmirror like tool for Windows?
[04:18] <eduardo> asdfghjklz<xcvbnm,.-wertyuioprffgghhjjhjkjkkll
[04:19] <jbroome> ScreaminIke: you set that it /etc/fstab
[04:19] <dabaR> kuja: does google?
[04:19] <soundray> ScreaminIke: why not e2fsck now and be done with it?
[04:19] <GTAi> afternoon everyone.
[04:19] <cafuego> kuja: Like, a tool to mirror a windows repository?
[04:19] <kuja> dabaR: There was one link, but it's dead. Everything else, nothing knows.
[04:19] <ppd> hello. is it just for me that the gnome wastebin in the panel appears always empty not caring whether it's full or not?
[04:19] <ppd> on edgy
[04:19] <Turias> so i keep reading about apt-get vs aptitude, but i havent really found any helpful pages.  can anyone point me to some place that talks about the differences (if there are any) of using each of them?
[04:19] <kuja> cafuego: No, a tool on Windows which can mirror an Ubuntu repository.
[04:20] <yoshiznit123> screaminmike, change /etc/fstab, the last column i think sets whether to check on boot or not
[04:20] <soundray> Turias: aptitude is a curses-based frontend to apt-get. Nothing more, nothing less.
[04:20] <cafuego> kuja: debmirror probably runs fine in cygwin.
[04:20] <kuja> soundray: Doesn't have to be used that way though.
[04:20] <Frederick> folks can I update my kubuntu to edgy partially I mean just some given packages?
[04:20] <Turias> soundray: ok, thanks.  so there is absolutely no difference to running 'aptitude upgrade' and 'apt-get upgrade'?
[04:20] <nata> hola
[04:20] <kuja> cafuego: I guess I'll try to build it in cygwin
[04:20] <soundray> kuja: okay, tell Turias about it.
[04:20] <dabaR> soundray: nice technological difference...that is not a different in usability, and one exists.
[04:21] <cafuego> kuja: if not, rsycn sure does.
[04:21] <cafuego> kuja: ... and/or winrsync.
[04:21] <jrib> Turias: aptitude handles remembers what dependencies get installed for packages you install with it and will remove them if you no longer need it.  Also, aptitude's default behavior is to install recommended packages.  And aptitude has an ncurses interface (as well as straight command line)
[04:21] <jrib> Turias: s/handles//
[04:21] <kuja> cafuego: Yeah, but what I really want out of debmirror is the features of downloading an entire repository based on arch and section
[04:21] <kuja> The official CD/DVD only has main/restricted, where I may want multiverse/universe
[04:21] <ScreaminIke> i'm not sure that e2fsck would actually fix it, and i don't want to go through the hassle
[04:21] <cafuego> kuja: I'm 100% sure it runs in Ubuntu under vmware on Windows ;-)
[04:21] <kuja> I'll try building debmirror though, on cygwin
[04:22] <eva> thanks all now it is working
[04:22] <kuja> cafuego: It'd take time just to grab the ubuntu ISO, then grab the repository
[04:22] <kuja> :(
[04:22] <Turias> jrib: hmm. that makes sense.  so it seems like I should usually use aptitude over apt-get when performing any installs of packages with dependencies
[04:22] <cafuego> tue
[04:22] <kuja> I should really carry around vmware and ubuntu on my iPod
[04:22] <kuja> I don't trust CD's anymore... scratch to easily for me... I'm not caring of them
[04:23] <xica-hip> hola
[04:23] <ehird> kuja: you can boot from your ipod?:p
[04:23] <xica-hip> como esta todo el mundo
[04:23] <jrib> Turias: yes, well that is what I always do.  Only time I install with apt-get is if aptitude makes some crazy suggestion to resolve problems, but it always shows you what it wants to do beforehand
[04:23] <elkbuntu> !es | xica-hip
[04:23] <ubotu> xica-hip: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:23] <kuja> ehird: I wouild, if I could do that without screwing up Apple's firmware
[04:23] <beasty> servessa!
[04:23] <kuja> Partition-wise
[04:23] <soundray> ScreaminIke: 'sudo touch /fastboot'. But this is not recommended. It's the kind of trick that got you into the mess with that permanently dirty filesystem. Just run e2fsck -y -- no hassle.
[04:23] <ehird> kuja: you know that itunes can restore your ipods firmware? :)
[04:23] <Turias> jrib: great.  thanks for your help.
[04:23] <ehird> just keep your music backed up ;)
[04:23] <kuja> ehird: But I don't want to have to do that all the time :)
[04:24] <kuja> Everything seems to be a hassle
[04:24] <ehird> kuja: try rockbox ;) http://rockbox.org
[04:24] <kuja> I should've gotten the 80GB iPod :P
[04:24] <ehird> much nicer than apple's firmware
[04:24] <ScreaminIke> it's given me a hassle on this partition before...
[04:24] <mandelum> how do I check for wifi access points in breezy?
[04:24] <soundray> ScreaminIke: in that case, consider buying a new hard disk.
[04:24] <kuja> ehird: How is it "nicer"?
[04:25] <Dimensions> thanks guys ... but now when i try to login into mysql console ... by typing mysqladmin -u root ... it doesn't login rather shows long description ... when i change user to root and then type mysqladmin -u root mypassword it says : : connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[04:25] <ScreaminIke> i'm a poor college kid. no $$. i will though. hopefully @ xmas time
[04:25] <asdx|work> is possible to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[04:25] <ehird> kuja: gapless playback, open source (so you could make it bootable), customizable interface, you can browse via directory tree, replaygain, lots more formats, ...
[04:25] <LjL> !upgrade | asdx|work
[04:25] <ubotu> asdx|work: Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:25] <dooglus> asdx|work: see the URL in the topic.  (short answer: "yes")
[04:25] <ScreaminIke> asdx|work: yes. sudo update-manager -d -c
[04:25] <Bitt> [asdx|work]  yes
[04:25] <jrib> Turias: another thing I forgot was aptitude's search is much more powerful than apt-cache search.  Checkout /usr/share/doc/aptitude, there is a page there with all the details about the search
[04:25] <kuja> asdx|work: I guess you could change your sources.list to point to edgy repositories, run an apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:25] <Frederick> dooglus: do I have to update all packages at once?
[04:26] <CarinArr> update-manager -c works now
[04:26] <Turias> jrib: will do.  thanks.
[04:26] <LjL> ScreaminIke: no. the "-d" is only needed for upgrading to unstable versions
[04:26] <dooglus> Frederick: no.  you can install one at a time if you have enough patience.
[04:26] <kuja> ehird: I like iPod Linux, but it's just not mature enough yet... I really wanted to use it to play games on my iPod. I'll give Rockbox a try
[04:26] <kuja> Thanks
[04:26] <t0taln00b> hi all
[04:26] <chplanet_> Where do you start when you want to set up a software raid 1 and that you already have a HD with ubuntu dapper installed on it?
[04:26] <Frederick> dooglus: I mean I don't want a break my ubuntu install
[04:26] <jrib> Turias: np
[04:26] <t0taln00b> howdy :)
[04:26] <dooglus> Frederick: I'd recommend letting apt-get do its thing though
[04:26] <Vuen> what's up #ubuntu, what would be a good fully-featured torrent client for kubuntu? specifically i'm looking for magnet support, dht support, that sort of thing
[04:26] <ScreaminIke> oh. i used it when i updated my server last night. good to know.
[04:26] <deonla> thefish i would like to thank you for all the help -- fixed my problem, it was the dns ip that was wrong.
[04:26] <nata-hip> por ke todo me sale en ingles tio
[04:26] <Frederick> dooglus: all i want is the new kernel,
[04:27] <LjL> !es | nata-hip
[04:27] <ubotu> nata-hip: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:27] <dooglus> Vuen: azureus is the only fully-featured torrent client for linux I think
[04:27] <soundray> kuja, ehird: please ask yourselves whether the rockbox/ipod discussion is on-topic. There's always #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:27] <dooglus> Frederick: that's probably not recommended.
[04:27] <Vuen> i've been using azureus, but it's incredibly slow in java and vfat :(
[04:27] <Frederick> Vuen: Ktorrent
[04:27] <Frederick> dooglus: why?
[04:27] <Vuen> Frederick: ktorrent doesn't have any of those features
[04:27] <ScreaminIke> oh... editing my fstab... do i set the last column for the above mentioned drive to "0"?
[04:27] <Vuen> it has things like file prioritization... but as far as connectivity goes, it's nothing like azureus
[04:27] <Vuen> so am i stuck with azureus? :(
[04:27] <dooglus> Vuen: I use it with vfat and it's fine.  did you set the 'I'm using VFAT' checkbox?
[04:27] <Vuen> yes
[04:27] <Frederick> dooglus: can't I apt-get install the new kernel and apt handles the deps?
[04:27] <soundray> Frederick: the new kernel depends on all sorts of userspace stuff as well. udev, libc... don't know what. Do a full upgrade.
[04:28] <Vuen> it works with vfat fine, it's just slow
[04:28] <Vuen> really slow
[04:28] <Frederick> soundray: sure but I tought that if I update it the deps would be handled by apt
[04:28] <dooglus> Vuen: it's not slow with vfat for me.  and if you use the console interface you'll find it's faster (if memory is what's constraining you)
[04:29] <dooglus> Vuen: how slow is slow?  I get around 400 or 500KB/s
[04:29] <t0taln00b> heh it's so much pleasure that ubuntu edgy finally released :)
[04:29] <Vuen> console interface? that's pretty nifty
[04:29] <ScreaminIke> or... could someone hold my hand with e2fsck?
[04:29] <Vuen> it's not the speeds that are slow
[04:29] <Vuen> it's the interface
[04:29] <Vuen> and doing thinks like rechecking a torrent...
[04:29] <Vuen> for some reason azureus doesn't shut down nicely when i log out
[04:29] <soundray> Frederick: yes, they would be. But since you then have a hybrid system between dapper and edgy, there is no guarantee that it'll work. What's the problem with upgrading all the way?
[04:29] <rt2570> ScreaminIke: can you unmount the partition in question while running the system?
[04:29] <davidwinter> is anyone having issues with Edgy + AMD64?
[04:29] <Vuen> so when i log back in, it has to always recheck the torrent
[04:29] <dooglus> Vuen: right.  the interface gets slow when the process gets bigger than available RAM.  it is very bloated.
[04:30] <elkbuntu> t0taln00b, what do you mean finally? it released on time.
[04:30] <Vuen> and for a torrent of even a couple gigs, it completely stalls my machine for several minutes
[04:30] <NET||abuse> haha, this is weird, i've got twinview working, i have the screen physical layout right, windows maximize just to the one screen at a time, but.....
[04:30] <davidwinter> X won't start for me (I was expecting this) but I don't even get the text login screen appear. Just a blank screen with an underscore blinking...
[04:30] <Vuen> urgh
[04:30] <NET||abuse> the menu and task bar are on the wrong screen,
[04:30] <CarinArr> elkbuntu, mebbies he feels it's finally because he's been looking forward to it THAT much
[04:30] <dooglus> Vuen: I think you'll find it's not rechecking the whole torrent is it?  It's just checking the parts it downloaded last time but didn't get around to checking yet.
[04:30] <CarinArr> ;)
[04:30] <Vuen> if only it shut down properly when i logged out, i could handle it
[04:30] <ScreaminIke> rt2570 it's my home partition... so... no
[04:30] <Vuen> yes, i noticed that since the new version (2.5 or whatever) it doesn't have to recheck the whole thing
[04:30] <axisys> rt2570: how do i remove the lighttpd tho? ever since i upgraded to edgy i have the update icon on top because it says lighttpd update available.. but i cannot remove it.. i tried dpkg with diff options
[04:30] <Vuen> still, sometimes i need to recheck the whole thing
[04:30] <Kira> Has anybody tested 6.10 on MacBook Pro yet? =P
[04:31] <LeeJunFan> reading about upstart now, so it (by default) uses some other means than rc*.d scripts to start services?
[04:31] <soundray> dooglus: have you been able to reproduce the acpid package problem?
[04:31] <rt2570> ScreaminIke: you can only use fsck on an unmounted filesystem
[04:31] <Wanderer> blah, source-o-matic doesn'thave edge yet :<
[04:31] <dooglus> Vuen: I run it using the console interface, inside dtach.  so it keeps running after I log out.
[04:31] <Vuen> for example, if i'm downloading a big (30gig) torrent, and i use some of the files and then delete them to download the rest, i gotta recheck everything
[04:31] <dooglus> soundray: no, it doesn't seem to be reproducible.
[04:31] <Vuen> dooglus: does it keep running when you shut off the computer? :/
[04:31] <rt2570> ScreaminIke: so you have to reboot with a live cd or in single user mode
[04:31] <ScreaminIke> so if i were to boot edgy live... that would work out?
[04:31] <LeeJunFan> okay, just found that part.
[04:31] <dooglus> Vuen: only if it's running on a different computer.
[04:32] <Vuen> i'm in college, i don't have the money for a dedicated torrent box
[04:32] <Vuen> that's not exactly a common or realistic scenario
[04:32] <dooglus> it doesn't have to be dedicated.  you can use your regular machine.
[04:33] <CarinArr> er.. how would something keep running on your own computer when you shut the computer down anyway
[04:33] <axisys> how do i force uninstall lighttpd.. until i remove it the top right corner update icon won't go away
[04:33] <phargle> CarinArr: pfm
[04:33] <Vuen> CarinArr: it doesn't. that's my point, i shut down my computer three or four times a week
[04:34] <rt2570> axisys: sudo apt-get remove lighttpd  does not work?
[04:34] <CarinArr> phargle?
[04:34] <wikijeff> Is anyone else in north america having trouble accessing the edgy download?
[04:34] <pettern> can i upgrade from dapper to edgy without reinstalling?
[04:34] <CarinArr> vuen, scrolled back up and reread it and now it makes sense;)
[04:35] <axisys> rt2570: nawp.. it failed http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/fJw7JY57.html
[04:35] <timhaughton> A friend is getting an error "Cannot calculate upgrade" when trying to move to Edgy from Dapper. Anyone know what might cause this?
[04:35] <Jfrench> Can some one explain what GTK+2 Themes are, Do I need to install anything to use thoses themes. I want to install some of the GTK+2 themes that i have been looking at on Gnome look.org
[04:35] <CarinArr> you wouldn't think it'd be that difficult to add that sort of functionality
[04:35] <apokryphos> pettern: yes, see the channel topic
[04:35] <dooglus> wikijeff: I think the north american version is stuck at the border being fingerprinted.
[04:35] <czambran> pettern you can by running sudo update-manager -c -d, but If I were you I would backup my current system
[04:35] <axisys> rt2570: it seems almost impossible to get rid of lighttpd
[04:35] <vzoric> hi can someone tell me is it possible to install ubuntu with desktop image?
[04:35] <apokryphos> czambran: -d isn't needed, as edgy is no longer the development version
[04:35] <czambran> oops
[04:35] <apokryphos> vzoric: what?
[04:36] <GnarusLeo> hi, I have successfully installed new wireless drivers for my ISL3886 card using ndiswrapper. I have now a eth1 wich "dhclient eth1" gives me a IP! But I cant ping anything ... not even the gateway. What could possibly be wrong?
[04:36] <czambran> apokryphos thanks
[04:36] <apokryphos> np
[04:36] <rt2570> axisys: sorry, don't know
[04:36] <vzoric> apokryphos, Desktop CD can i install ubuntu edgy with this image?
[04:36] <apokryphos> vzoric: yes, that is a live + installer CD
[04:36] <Vuen> vzoric: yep
[04:36] <vzoric> thanks
[04:36] <Vuen> that's the official cd, basically the normal consumer install/live desktop cd
[04:37] <axisys> i need a backhoe to get rid of lighttpd
[04:37] <pettern> czambran: any simple way to make a backup?
[04:37] <ehird> could anyone help with this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1666205&postcount=66
[04:37] <dooglus> Vuen: I've heard that utorrent works well in wine if you want to try that.
[04:37] <livingdaylight> THE EAGLE HAS LANDED!!!
[04:37] <Vuen> mmm, i suppose...
[04:37] <appleseed> hello there ...
[04:37] <axisys> anyone expert in removing a pkg that dont want to removed using dpkg
[04:38] <appleseed> sorry to be such an ugly person but I am here only for your expertise :P
[04:38] <axisys> i cannot remove lighttpd for the love of god
[04:38] <Ranbee> hi, i've been looking for edgy screenshots and a good review to post on a forum, does anyone know where i can find that?
[04:38] <axisys> tried pretty much everything
[04:38] <apokryphos> axisys: what's the error?
[04:38] <rt2570> axisys: are there files /var/lib/dpkg/info/lightthp*  ?
[04:38] <apokryphos> Ranbee: check the /topic
[04:38] <axisys> apokryphos: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/fJw7JY57.html
[04:38] <appleseed> few minutes ago I got the soul ;) and installed Ubuntu 6.10 on my Windows (bliah) system ...
[04:38] <haffe> Hello. I'm having some trouble (Kubuntu 6.10). When I try to print I get the error /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp failed.
[04:38] <haffe> What should I do about it?
[04:38] <apokryphos> haffe: #kubuntu
[04:38] <czambran> pettern download the package sbackup
[04:39] <axisys> rt2570: ls: /var/lib/dpkg/info/lightthp*: No such file or directory
[04:39] <apokryphos> axisys: try using some force options -- man apt-get
[04:39] <appleseed> however the install crashed on "automated" partition thing and now I cannot boot my system
[04:39] <dooglus> axisys: http, not htthp?
[04:39] <appleseed> what should I do? plz help me I am typing this from my old Mac  system :P
[04:39] <axisys> i have the update icon (orange one) for lighttpd.. but i can't update nor can i remove
[04:39] <axisys> dooglus: lighttpd
[04:39] <appleseed> many thanks in advance
[04:40] <davvs> i started a graphical program on a remote host with ssh -X that i need to keep running. how can i change it so that it wont be killed if i restart this computer?
[04:40] <GnarusLeo> hi, I have successfully installed new wireless drivers for my ISL3886 card using ndiswrapper. I have now a eth1 wich "dhclient eth1" gives me a IP! But I cant ping anything ... not even the gateway. What could possibly be wrong?
[04:40] <rt2570> axisys: that is the problem. it is already uninstalled. but somehow apt thinks it isn't. tried "sudo apt-get autoremove" already?
[04:40] <axisys> apokryphos: i think i did try force..
[04:40] <sidny4> in my /etc/fstab I have ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 for my NTFS partition but I can't access it, I can as root though
[04:40] <apokryphos> davvs: it doesn't work with all applications, but try ctrl+z
[04:40] <axisys> rt2570: no.. let me try
[04:40] <dooglus> axisys: ok.  not what you told him to type, anyway :)
[04:40] <sandy16> any body has idea how to capture the ram streaming i.e rtsp protocol
[04:41] <davvs> apokryphos, to pause it in the terminal?
[04:41] <appleseed> anyone to help my poor soul?
[04:41] <apokryphos> sidny4: you have to mount it as user, not root
[04:41] <appleseed> I REALLY want to try Ubuntu :D
[04:41] <apokryphos> davvs: you want to pause it?
[04:41] <ScreaminIke> now in a live session... running e2fsck gets me this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28442/
[04:41] <axisys> rt2570: that faild too http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/FBcxKJ55.html
[04:41] <dooglus> appleseed: can you still boot from the C?D
[04:41] <appleseed> yes
[04:41] <haffe> What command should I use to reinstall an already installed package?
[04:41] <boink> !tell appleseed about ask
[04:41] <davvs> apokryphos, no, i want it to keep running even if i shut down the shell
[04:41] <dooglus> haffe: sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package>
[04:41] <smile2me> Hello
[04:41] <sidny4> apokryphos, how do you mean, shouldn't haveing that in /etc/fstab take care of that?
[04:41] <appleseed> trouble is that I cannot start windows (bliah:P) either
[04:41] <apokryphos> appleseed: only thing I can recommend is trying to install through the alternate CD
[04:42] <haffe> dooglus: Thanks.
[04:42] <axisys> dooglus: i tried several options to get rid of lighttpd
[04:42] <apokryphos> davvs: yes, on many apps that will work. Not all though.
[04:42] <Vuen> gah, utorrent doesn't support magnet links either.
[04:42] <dean_> _
[04:42] <Ranbee> apokryphos: thanks, but there are no screenshots in the topic?? no reviews either. thanks anyway, i'll keep searching :)
[04:42] <gh0st> hello, can i safely delete the content of /tmp?
[04:42] <axisys> apokryphos: let me man apt-get.. i thought i tried force
[04:42] <Vuen> looks like i'm stuck with azureus for those hard-to-download files :(
[04:42] <appleseed> and if install will crash on the automatic partitioning what should I do?
[04:42] <apokryphos> sidny4: nope, user option is only so that users can mount. If root mounts however, users can't edit in there
[04:42] <dooglus> Vuen: oh really?  I've not played with it much.
[04:42] <smile2me> how do i make a user execute a file at login? In centos i used .bash_profile, what about in ubuntu?
[04:42] <ScreaminIke> gh0st, i don't know for sure, but i do it all the time ;)
[04:42] <apokryphos> Ranbee: there's zilliosn of reviews on Google. Release notes in the topic though
[04:42] <tonyyserver> smile2me: The same file exists
[04:42] <Ranbee> k
[04:42] <gh0st> and how to clean/empty apt-get cache
[04:42] <W_McL> sidny4: add the options uid=<your user id>, gid=<your group id>
[04:43] <ScreaminIke> apt-get clean
[04:43] <apokryphos> smile2me: any .profile* file in ~ should be fine
[04:43] <sidny4> ok
[04:43] <axisys> apokryphos: i dont see any force option in man apt-get
[04:43] <dooglus> smile2me: .bash_profile is used when a login shell is created, but most users never create a login shell
[04:43] <rt2570> axisys: your whole pkg database seems f**ked up. did you use automatix before?
[04:43] <davvs> apokryphos, so how do i know if i can disconnect without loosing the window?
[04:43] <apokryphos> davvs: ssh through another window, and see if it's still running
[04:43] <smile2me> thnks
[04:43] <apokryphos> axisys: dpkg, even.
[04:43] <ScreaminIke> who
[04:44] <axisys> apokryphos: yes i definite tried force w/ dpkg
[04:44] <apokryphos> axisys: and what did you get?
[04:44] <axisys> *definitely
[04:44] <ScreaminIke> ... sorry. used to playing mud's... that command is now obsolete *eyes the room list*
[04:44] <chplanet_> How does one set up a TV OUT on a ATI 9200 graphic card?
[04:44] <gh0st> when will edgy eft be released?
[04:44] <deonla> ahoy xgl when i login to my xgl wm i just get a blue screen, anybody know of a site ir location with some good info on xgl?
[04:44] <appleseed> @apokryphos mate ... sorry to bust your chops ... what should I do?
[04:44] <apokryphos> gh0st: topic
[04:44] <axisys> apokryphos: let me run it again.. did not save it
[04:44] <c0nf> [17:44:50]  <gh0st> when will edgy eft be released? -> released
[04:44] <LjL> !edgy | gh0st
[04:44] <ubotu> gh0st: Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[04:44] <c0nf> :p
[04:45] <exhale-> i installed compiz, how do i enable all the features? :)
[04:45] <apokryphos> appleseed: highlight me when speaking, otherwise I might miss you :)
[04:45] <dooglus> smile2me: you can try ~/.gnomerc - that's used if the user logs in to GNOME.  I don't think there's any way to do it in general though.
[04:45] <asdx|work> is beryl in the repos?
[04:45] <appleseed> hehe REALLY thanks mate:)
[04:45] <rt2570> axisys: if you used automatix, support stops right here
[04:45] <exhale-> asdx|work: no
[04:45] <apokryphos> appleseed: you can use TAB for autocompletion of nicks in IRC
[04:46] <asdx|work> exhale-: is the nvidia 9625 drivers there?
[04:46] <appleseed> apokryphos: u rule!
[04:46] <axisys> apokryphos: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/r6Ih7q42.html
[04:46] <deonla> ahoy xgl when i login to my xgl wm i just get a blue screen, anybody know of a site ir location with some good info on xgl?
[04:46] <apokryphos> appleseed: so yeah, let me know how it goes with the alternate CD
[04:46] <appleseed> apokryphos: respect!
[04:46] <exhale-> asdx|work: not shure what version..
[04:46] <appleseed> apokryphos: thanks imba mate! bye for now :D
[04:46] <gh0st> do i need ubuntu-desktop for "gksu "update-manager -c" ?
[04:46] <apokryphos> axisys: ps aux|grep lighttpd ?
[04:46] <apokryphos> gh0st: it should take care of installing it, first.
[04:47] <gh0st> apokryphos: so nothing to worry about?
[04:47] <apokryphos> right
[04:47] <ScreaminIke> gh0st: yea. update-manager is a gui
[04:47] <gh0st> will it also take care that my home folder is on a Separated partition?
[04:47] <asdx|work> I love this bug. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[04:47] <apokryphos> not at all
[04:47] <axisys> apokryphos: none
[04:48] <asdx|work> I hope it will eventually get fixed :)
[04:48] <gh0st> will it also take care that my home folder is on a Separated partition?
[04:48] <ScreaminIke> gh0st, i suggest that you make sure that that is your current configuration. if not, edgy won't change a thing. if it is... well... it still won't change it
[04:48] <gh0st> ok
[04:48] <ScreaminIke> wait a bit for answers, gh0st, we're all very bz ;)
[04:48] <apokryphos> axisys: curious. Seems like a mucked up package; what about ls /etc/init.d/|grep lightt ?
[04:48] <ehird> asdx|work: that bug prevents me from upgrading! :P
[04:48] <axisys> apokryphos: let me check
[04:49] <gh0st> what and what with the extra repos i added? should i remove them? and basically, will something be changed in my config files? did anyone tested it?
[04:49] <deonla> where can i get a good xgl how to?
[04:49] <axisys> apokryphos: its there in init.d
[04:49] <kevin> i need a good xgl how too also
[04:49] <axisys> kevin: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:49] <apokryphos> axisys: is that an ubuntu package from the repositories?
[04:49] <ScreaminIke> by the by... can i get some more hand-holding on my e2fsck. it tells me that it thinks the partition isn't really ext2, or that the superblock is corrupt. i KNOW it's ext2... so... how do i edit/change the superblock?
[04:49] <Flats> I installed an old scsi hard drive today if I go to device manager it sees the scsi card and make and model of drive just fine but I don't see it in my places folders.  I see my USB flashdrive, CD and regular hard drive and floppy but no scsi
[04:49] <Flats> any ideas
[04:50] <jose__> hola
[04:50] <W_McL> Flats: is the drive formatted and mounted?
[04:50] <axisys> apokryphos: i downloaed the ubuntu pkg from lighttpd website for dapper few months ago
[04:50] <axisys> apokryphos: let me send u the link
[04:50] <axisys> apokryphos: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fl%2Flighttpd%2Flighttpd_1.4.11-3ubuntu3_i386.deb&md5sum=d6fe7e57e57c88b8f9009794d39b7aac&arch=i386&type=main
[04:51] <Flats> I believe mounted is the question.  I guess it didnt auto mount?
[04:51] <Flats> how can i tell
[04:51] <desertfish> hey, all.  Is there a file containing the version of ubuntu installed?
[04:51] <Flats> help about
[04:51] <apokryphos> desertfish: cat /etc/issue
[04:51] <Flats> desert
[04:51] <desertfish> ah!  thanks
[04:51] <apokryphos> axisys: hm, curious. You should file a bug report.
[04:51] <FunnyLookinHat> !topic
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[04:51] <W_McL> Flats, type mount in a terminal and look which devices are listed
[04:51] <FunnyLookinHat> woops.
[04:52] <axisys> apokryphos: w/ lighttpd or ubuntu
[04:52] <dooglus> I can't install ubuntu-desktop: it depends on nautilus-sendto, which depends on gaim<1:3.0 but gaim2:2.0 is installed.  what's up with that?
[04:52] <apokryphos> axisys: ubuntu, so in launchpad
[04:52] <axisys> apokryphos: ok
[04:52] <axisys> apokryphos: thnx
[04:52] <Flats> wow, umm I see no scsi lines anywhere
[04:52] <apokryphos> dooglus: things can sometimes break if you're using non-release ubuntu packs
[04:52] <Flats> lots O stuff there
[04:53] <dooglus> apokryphos: I don't think I am
[04:53] <apokryphos> dooglus: did gaim 2.0 come with dapper?
[04:53] <dooglus> apokryphos: I don't think so.
[04:53] <Flats> dev/hda1 but I believe that is my boot ide
[04:53] <ScreaminIke> no, apokryphos, just edgy
[04:53] <asdx|work> apokryphos: no
[04:53] <W_McL> Flats, no /dev/sd* ? ok... then the device isn't mounted. try to find out the device's name
[04:53] <asdx|work> apokryphos: gaim 1.5 is in dapper
[04:53] <apokryphos> dooglus: I recommend removing it and then trying to reinstall u-d
[04:53] <dooglus> !info gaim dapper
[04:53] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB
[04:53] <dooglus> !info gaim edgy
[04:53] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB
[04:53] <bur[n] er> anyone have a torrent link for 6.10?  the site is dead
[04:54] <bur[n] er> also... is there a cd or ust DVD?
[04:54] <eva> what is the best cd and dvd player for ubuntu
[04:54] <apokryphos> DVD isn't announced yet
[04:54] <dooglus> apokryphos: removing gaim?  but it's nautilus-sendto which is complaining
[04:54] <optimusprime> if I upgrade to Edgy will I loose my Windows Partition?
[04:54] <_lemsx1_> bur[n] er: cdimages.ubuntu.com
[04:54] <lupine_85> optimusprime: I'm afraid not
[04:54] <bur[n] er> _lemsx1_: i'm there... kinda of... there's only dvd links and it's slow as balls to navigate around searching for the cd isos
[04:54] <ehird> lupine_85: <lol>
[04:54] <apokryphos> dooglus: but looks like gaim is the problem
[04:54] <optimusprime> :)
[04:55] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: try using a mirror
[04:55] <lucasvo> optimusprime: if you're upgrading from dapper to edgy the partition table wont change
[04:55] <lucasvo> apokryphos: or bittorrent
[04:55] <lucasvo> bur[n] er: this was meant for you
[04:55] <ivoks> wo.... how do you like it? :)
[04:55] <apokryphos> yes
[04:55] <Flats> Should I be ablk to find the name in devicemanager
[04:55] <_lemsx1_> bur[n] er: there is a dvd/current that has .torrent links
[04:55] <dooglus> apokryphos: "Reinstallation of gaim is not possible, it cannot be downloaded"
[04:55] <dooglus> apokryphos: wtf?
[04:55] <bokey> optimusprime# no, windows partition won't be erased.
[04:55] <bur[n] er> seems i get no option for a cd eh?
[04:55] <apokryphos> dooglus: probably because 2.0 isn't in your repository; so remove it, and then install.
[04:56] <_lemsx1_> bur[n] er: get the torrent while everybody is uploading now ;-)
[04:56] <dooglus> apokryphos: I don't have a repository
[04:56] <dooglus> apokryphos: I'm using one of the standard ones
[04:56] <bur[n] er> does a cd iso of edgy exist??
[04:56] <Khamael> can I change what mirror I am upgrading to edgy from?
[04:56] <LjL> !edgy | bur[n] er
[04:56] <ubotu> bur[n] er: Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[04:56] <apokryphos> dooglus: try the above
[04:56] <sproingie> gksu "update-manager -c"   .... now that is slick
[04:56] <LjL> Khamael: yes, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:56] <apokryphos> yup =)
[04:57] <ScreaminIke> bur[n] er: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[04:57] <apokryphos> ScreaminIke: that displays incorrect info, by the way.
[04:57] <W_McL> Flats, i don't know, but you can find it via lshw in the console. the best is to use lshw -short and grep for /dev/sd
[04:57] <Khamael> LjL: seems it is too late. allready ran "gksu "update-manager -c""
[04:57] <dooglus> apokryphos: other packages depend on gaim; I don't want to disturb them
[04:57] <eva> what is the best player for cd and dvd
[04:57] <ScreaminIke> how so, apokryphos? that's where i go for all my ubuntu torrents...
[04:57] <apokryphos> !media
[04:57] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:58] <LjL> Khamael: as long as it's just downloading, and not yet installing, i *think* you *should* be able to interrupt it. but i can't really say, because i've never used update-manager, only apt-get
[04:58] <apokryphos> ScreaminIke: well check it -- ubuntu desktop iso isn't 548 megs
[04:58] <apokryphos> dooglus: can't you reinstall them after?
[04:58] <optimusprime> also will all my files be intact?
[04:58] <ScreaminIke> ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso698MiB659
[04:58] <sandy16> how to capture the real media streaming?
[04:58] <ScreaminIke> scrol down
[04:58] <W_McL> Flats, to see all disks with lshw type lshw -class disk
[04:58] <Dimensions> thanks guys ... but now when i try to login into mysql console ... by typing mysqladmin -u root ... it doesn't login rather shows long description ... when i change user to root and then type mysqladmin -u root mypassword it says : : connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[04:58] <apokryphos> ScreaminIke: yes, and above there's edgy-desktop-i386.iso  528MiB
[04:59] <ScreaminIke> well... who depends on code-names when you can go by version numbers? ;)
[04:59] <dooglus> apokryphos: I could, but do I have to?  I'm using apt-get and thought that was supposed to be good at this kind of thing?
[04:59] <optimusprime> if I upgrade to edgy that is
[04:59] <bionoid> Dimensions: add -p and type your password :p
[04:59] <apokryphos> dooglus: sure, but if people muck up slightly in packages then you're in situations like this. Have you tried updating your gaim, first, actually?
[04:59] <Foxtri> hallo und moin
[05:00] <apokryphos> ScreaminIke: it's not a good idea to recommend that link atm
[05:00] <Flats> W_McL  I have this the first time /0/e4000000/6        scsi0     storage     AHA-2940U2/U2W / 7890/7891  and a /1                   scsi1     storage  and only the IDE and CDROM when I use the -class disk
[05:00] <sproingie> optimusprime: it wont delete your data files
[05:00] <apokryphos> ScreaminIke: np :)
[05:00] <ScreaminIke> hrm... so... no one here is a hard-drive specialist? :(
[05:01] <W_McL> Flats, did you run lshw as superuser (with sudo)? look up the "logical name" of the SCSI disk
[05:01] <W_McL> Flats, that's the device name
[05:01] <zenlinuxNH> w00! Ubuntu Party! http://photos.zenlinux.com/UbuntuPartyEdgyEft
[05:01] <dooglus> apokryphos: I'm wondering if I've got a gaim from part-way through the edgy dev cycle or something.  I have 2:2.0.0beta3-2ubuntu0 whereas the repo has 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9
[05:01] <Khamael> does anybody know if there is a norwegian edgy repo?
[05:01] <dvheumen> hey everyone, I think I've got a problem to which the answer is childishly simple, but I just can't find it on internet anywhere :( It's about packet forwarding in linux...
[05:02] <dooglus> apokryphos: what's the "1:" and "2:" prefix mean?
[05:02] <rukuartic> Durn it... I've gone and messed up my server. I commented localhost out of /etc/hosts and now I can't run sudo to undo it... any tips?
[05:02] <Flats> logical name is /dev/sda.  I should be writing this **** down
[05:02] <lupine_85> rukuartic: did you set a root password?
[05:02] <Flats> this is priceless for a newbie
[05:02] <apokryphos> dooglus: could be; and in that particular case -- I'm not sure
[05:02] <rukuartic> lupine_85: nope...
[05:02] <ScreaminIke> rkuartic: yea. run a live system, mount the drive, edit it back in.
[05:02] <lupine_85> then a reboot into single-user mode could be in order :/
[05:03] <dooglus> apokryphos: I could have the same situation for other packages too.  is there some way to check which packages aren't at the same version as the repo?
[05:03] <rukuartic> lupine_85: any way of doing that without attaching a monitor to the computer?
[05:03] <lupine_85> rukuartic: only if you're good with a keyboard
[05:03] <dooglus> apokryphos: apt-get upgrade doesn't mention it, because I guess it thinks my gaim is newer than the one in the repo
[05:03] <W_McL> Flats, then do a sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda to find out how the disk is partitioned
[05:03] <dvheumen> I've set /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ==> 1, but I can't get a single packet to forward to the other network interface :(
[05:03] <rukuartic> lupine_85: I figured... thanks then
[05:03] <lupine_85> when it's rebooting, you'd have to gauge when grub is starting then hit esc <down> <enter>
[05:03] <apokryphos> dooglus: no easy way I know of, nope.
[05:03] <axisys> apokryphos: submitted a bug
[05:03] <axisys> apokryphos: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/lighttpd/+bug/68401
[05:04] <daydreamer> hi
[05:04] <apokryphos> axisys: cool, thanks
[05:04] <apokryphos> hi daydreamer
[05:04] <Flats> Disk /dev/sda: 18.3 GB, 18309995520 bytes
[05:04] <Flats> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2226 cylinders
[05:04] <Flats> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[05:04] <Flats> I can format, thats not a problem
[05:05] <PhoenixP3K> Haa! I'm out of blank CDs. Is there some way to burn the bootable cd on a DVD ?
[05:05] <W_McL> Flats, it looks like you need to format the disk because it seems to be unformatted
[05:06] <sproingie> PhoenixP3K: it should burn to a dvd, i've done it before
[05:06] <W_McL> Flats, if it was formated yo'd get a list of the partitions
[05:06] <teledyn> dvheumen: you need an iptables rule to set up the forwarding
[05:06] <ndlovu> can anyone tell me if the gnome "save as" dialog has changed in edgy eft? that's the one thing that irritates me the most in dapper...
[05:06] <Flats> so just sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[05:06] <Tokenbad> in ubuntu is there a way to see passes behind *****
[05:06] <lupine_85> teledyn: no, you'd need an ipables rule for NAT
[05:06] <m0biu5> Does anyone know of software to manage clients and data? I local church is looking for a way to manage the kids that come into their day care program..
[05:06] <fryfrog> are there any deb repository mirrors (or list anywhere)?
[05:06] <daydreamer> i'm having some problems getting my lcd well configured, what does the "Screen Resolution" app in gnome change when i change from 75 to 60Hz??? i already have a line saying 60Hz in my xorg.conf file, but when i change it in "Screen Resolution" util it's almost perfect, only moved a bit tothe right
[05:07] <teledyn> lupine_85: how to set up nat then?
[05:07] <PhoenixP3K> sproingie: thanks for the info. Anyone else support this theory?
[05:07] <dvheumen> teledyn: to which rule are you referring? I did set all policies to allow to prevent accidental blocking
[05:07] <lupine_85> do you want/need it?
[05:07] <maxb_at_work> Are there any Subclipse users here?
[05:07] <lupine_85> simple ip forwarding is trivial to set up
[05:07] <dvheumen> lupine_85: I thought so too :P
[05:07] <lupine_85> it would help if I knew what you were up to ;)
[05:07] <teledyn> you need to set up a nat rule
[05:08] <phaedrus44> hey TokenBad wussup
[05:08] <apokryphos> fryfrog: yes, check the main download page
[05:08] <dvheumen> do I really need to set up NAT? it's internal only...
[05:08] <apokryphos> fryfrog: often you can just do xx.archive.ubuntu.com where xx is your countrycode
[05:08] <Tokenbad> phaedrus44, not much
[05:08] <Tokenbad> you?
[05:08] <MarcN> hmm, edgy upgrade is complaining about a conflict between Xsession5 man page in both xinit and x11-common.  hmm
[05:08] <W_McL> Flats, yes. and in fdisk use the help if you need more info (type m)
[05:08] <sproingie> m0biu5: that's a pretty open-ended question.  i suspect a CRM app would be a bit much.  you probably need something like an appointment scheduler
[05:08] <teledyn> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXTIF -j MASQUERADE
[05:08] <phaedrus44> nada....just at werk
[05:08] <lupine_85> dvheumen: you don't need NAT for that
[05:08] <Tokenbad> sounds like fun...
[05:08] <Flats> sweet thank you very much
[05:08] <lupine_85> maybe you have an iptables rule blocking it, though?
[05:08] <dvheumen> lupine_85: that what I thought..
[05:08] <Tokenbad> its just now 8am here...and been up 4 hours already
[05:08] <DShepherd> what is the highest amount of people ever recorded for this channel?
[05:08] <blubb> anybody know what this "proactive security" in 6.10 is? is it SSP? PIE? selinux? grsec?
[05:08] <d-E-u-S> when i shut down my xubuntu then turn the hdd off but the pc is still on
[05:08] <sproingie> m0biu5: the channel is pretty berzerk today, going to be hard to discuss anything but edgy :)
[05:09] <lupine_85> or perhaps your network config isn't sane
[05:09] <dvheumen> lupine_85: I only want to forward the packets from my gigabit crosslink connection to my internet connection
[05:09] <apokryphos> DShepherd: around this, I think we went into 1090 once
[05:09] <m0biu5> sproingie, ah, my bad..
[05:09] <lupine_85> check routes, subnets, etc
[05:09] <lupine_85> dvheumen: that's not internal-only..
[05:09] <m0biu5> sproingie, didn't see it was released today.. thats cool
[05:09] <kuja> yay I got debmirror working on cygwin
[05:09] <kuja> Just a matter of time now...
[05:09] <dvheumen> lupine_85: It is when eth0 is still internal
[05:10] <sproingie> kuja: planning on getting apt working on cygwin?
[05:10] <Blacken> sproingie: Have you installed anything?
[05:10] <lupine_85> ok... how about you pastebin the output of route -n and ifconfig -a ?
[05:10] <dvheumen> lupine_85: it's this way: My PC <--Gbit --> Ubuntu server <--100 Mbit --> ADSL Modem
[05:10] <sproingie> Blacken: still downloading
[05:10] <d-E-u-S> when i shut down my xubuntu then turn the hdd off but the pc is still on, what can i do?
[05:10] <teledyn> dvheumen: you just want the 2 subnets to be able to communicate with each other?
[05:10] <Blacken> sproingie: No no--have you installed anything previously?
[05:10] <DShepherd> apokryphos: ok. thanks for the info man... i just got up.. still on dapper. going to see if I can download edgy.
[05:10] <lupine_85> are your PC and the ubuntu server on separate ip subnets?
[05:10] <Blacken> sproingie: Notably Flash, Java, etc.
[05:10] <kuja> sproingie: No, planning on grabbing the main/universe/multiverse repositories for dapper-i386 and taking it home and upgrading my box
[05:10] <apokryphos> DShepherd: cool. If you're upgrading, follow the guide ;-)
[05:11] <dvheumen> lupine_85: yes they are, 10.0.0/24 and 10.0.1/24
[05:11] <sproingie> Blacken: java, by hand
[05:11] <Blacken> sproingie: Ah, then you should be good.
[05:11] <Qaldune> hi
[05:11] <DShepherd> apokryphos: ... I like clean installs.. where is the guide at?
[05:11] <daydreamer> what does gnome "Screen Resolution" affect?? xorg.conf is unchanged when i set the resolution to 60Hz
[05:11] <Qaldune> i'm using ubuntu dapper is there a command to upgrade to edgy without burning cds?
[05:11] <apokryphos> DShepherd: in the /topic
[05:11] <lupine_85> is your ubuntu server set as the default route on the PC?
[05:11] <dvheumen> lupine_85: k, the routes: 10.0.0.0 gw 0.0.0.0, 10.0.1.0 gw 0.0.0.0, 0.0.0.0 gw 10.0.0.2
[05:11] <DShepherd> apokryphos: ah.. thanks
[05:11] <unimatrix9> hi there
[05:11] <daydreamer> Qaldune: update-manager -c i think
[05:11] <ArtVandalae> Hi guys, I can't even get to the torrent files... can someone link me to the Ubuntu 6.10 desktop torrent?
[05:12] <sproingie> Qaldune: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[05:12] <dvheumen> lupine_85: yep, and it's the only active interface on that PC
[05:12] <Qaldune> k
[05:12] <Qaldune> thx guys
[05:12] <magallego> hola
[05:12] <lupine_85> verr peculiar... does tcpdump show the packages reaching the ubuntu server's gbit interface?
[05:12] <unimatrix9> got an usb disk that has two partitions, one is an secure, or bootable erea, how can i format it to one disk?
[05:12] <unimatrix9> or is it better not to?
[05:13] <livingdaylight> LoL, are the ubuntu mirrors busy!
[05:13] <ArtVandalae> yep
[05:13] <variant> unimatrix9: if you want, why do you want to format it?
[05:13] <ArtVandalae> I'm having to request the Torrent(!!) file over IRC :P
[05:13] <dooglus> livingdaylight: the Czech one isn't - I got a steady 500KB/s from it when I upgraded a few hours ago
[05:14] <dvheumen> lupine_85: I'll play with tcpdump for a bit, because I haven't  used it yet
[05:14] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: just a little :P. Still, there's some fast ones around
[05:14] <ArtVandalae> dooglus: link please?
[05:14] <ArtVandalae> More people should use BT!!
[05:14] <unimatrix9> to get one disk
[05:14] <dooglus> ArtVandalae: deb http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy           main restricted universe multiverse
[05:14] <livingdaylight> dooglus: cool, thx. i was trying the uk mirror and it was trickling like molasses
[05:14] <ArtVandalae> thanks dooglus
[05:14] <unimatrix9> but maybe it would be wiser to keep it this way...
[05:14] <variant> unimatrix9: cfdisk /dev/sdawhatever
[05:14] <variant> unimatrix9: and delete the paritions
[05:15] <variant> unimatrix9: then create one big partition
[05:15] <livingdaylight> dooglus: you shouldn't have told everyone ;)
[05:15] <dooglus> livingdaylight: the last time I checked, the czech mirror was really in the UK anyway; but maybe now they have a real czech mirror
[05:15] <variant> unimatrix9: then mkfs.vfat or ext2 or whatever /dev/sdwhatever
[05:15] <dooglus> livingdaylight: I've finished with it now - and it's all about load-sharing, right?
[05:15] <dvheumen> lupine_85: crap... I think I've got it... the ADSL modem doesn't have a static route back to 10.0.1.0 yet :-s
[05:16] <zenlinuxNH> Post your Ubuntu party pics! Here's mine from this morning: http://photos.zenlinux.com/UbuntuPartyEdgyEft
[05:16] <Ironfrost> hi - I have a question about installing Ubuntu
[05:16] <Ironfrost> the CD drive on my laptop is broken
[05:16] <Ironfrost> and I want to install from a USB flash drive
[05:16] <Flats> What aprtition type should I use? I just want to use the whoile hard drive to store my windows downloads and files
[05:16] <livingdaylight> what's with the dvd release?
[05:16] <Flats> err partition
[05:16] <variant> zenlinuxNH: wow, what a rave
[05:16] <Ironfrost> is it possible to just copy the CD onto a flash disk, or is it more complicated than that?
[05:17] <zenlinuxNH> variant: yeah, it almost got out of control. :P
[05:17] <livingdaylight> are people opting for the cd release over dvd? whats the going verdict?
[05:17] <TheGateKeeper> !backup
[05:17] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[05:17] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, most people do...  the DVD has some nice features but are not essential if you have a strong internet connection
[05:17] <mkclinux> i installed ubuntu lamp server. can constant ping from workstation with no drops.  browser goes to a test page ok but after a minute or 2 page not found.  only way back up is ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0.
[05:17] <unimatrix9> hmm, get fatal error on cfdisk
[05:18] <variant> unimatrix9: and what is the error?
[05:18] <variant> unimatrix9: you will need to be root dont forget
[05:18] <W_McL> Flats, then you best use fat because you can read and write acces it with both linux and windows
[05:18] <Blacken> Ew. You know, they could have used a halfway-decently written article write-up on Slashdot for the release. Like mine, or the half-dozen other decent ones. The one they used is barely literate.
[05:18] <unimatrix9> fatal error , did sudo ...
[05:18] <finalbeta> Just installed scribus, Why is it so diffrend from the normal program look? It's KDE based or something?
[05:18] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: so i should go for cd instead. I don't see the bittorrent site?
[05:19] <Flats> should I use fat16 type 6 ya think
[05:19] <gnube> JOIN #catalyst
[05:19] <EJ> Will there ever be a retail version of ubuntu with added support for patented technologies and maybe cedega?
[05:19] <variant> finalbeta: i think its qt based yes, the next version of qt has support for gtk lookalike themes afaik
[05:19] <variant> Flats: vfat
[05:19] <Blacken> EJ: That would be illegal to do in the U.S.
[05:19] <trappist> EJ: never
[05:19] <trappist> Blacken: no it wouldn't
[05:19] <EJ> Mandriva manages to do both well enough
[05:19] <ToHellWithGA> when will feisty be released?
[05:19] <eva> what program is easy to make mp3 with
[05:19] <Flats> No Vfat option
[05:19] <W_McL> Flats, i think fat32 is better
[05:19] <EJ> the free version and the powerpack version
[05:20] <finalbeta> Oh, that explains it, I killed my KDE style on this system, don't know how to reset it :p
[05:20] <Blacken> trappist: Without getting things like MP3 codecs licensed?
[05:20] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, yea, I would ge tthe CD, the torrents should be on the download page further towards the bottom
[05:20] <variant> EJ: they must receive permission from the patent holders.. no thanks
[05:20] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, where are you located, and I'll get you a link
[05:20] <EJ> variant, whom don't mind as they receive the money
[05:20] <W_McL> Flats, for making fat partitions there is the tool mkdosfs
[05:20] <trappist> Blacken: by retail he means for pay.  so yes, we could pay royalties on stuff like that.  but we'll never do it.
[05:20] <Blacken> trappist: Obviously.
[05:20] <constantine-xvi> can anyone explain why the battery monitor is broken?
[05:20] <variant> EJ: i dont care if they mind or not, i want nothing to do with it and would not use it
[05:21] <variant> Flats: mkfs.vfat
[05:21] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: don't worry, i found it - sorry about that :)
[05:21] <Blacken> Outside of a corporate environment, PAYING for Linux is for schmucks. :p
[05:21] <W_McL> Flats, how to use it see man mkdosfs
[05:21] <EJ> Blacken, your not paying for linux - you can't infact!
[05:21] <alguevara> Fellas... Does Ubuntu runs good in a Celeron 1.5ghz 40, 256?
[05:21] <EJ> you'd be paying for the extra multimedia enhancements
[05:21] <variant> Blacken: hardly, it's the right thing to do if you can afford it
[05:21] <Blacken> variant: Entirely disagreed.
[05:21] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: but you can tell me about network, alternate and desktop. What is all that about?
[05:21] <Blacken> EJ: Sigh. WRONG. You can pay for Linux quite easily; nothing in the GPL prevents it.
[05:21] <alguevara> does DVD video runs good in Ubuntu?
[05:21] <bretzel> Hi there, please help me: I am about to re-install Edgy from scratch ( btw I realize that Edgy is released now but still installing RC... ) ATI X1600 Radeon, and it has really VGA and DVI distinct insterface ( not shared I mean two screens ) where to get help on setup ?
[05:21] <eva> can you make mp3 files in ubuntu
[05:21] <Qaldune> alguevara yes
[05:22] <Qaldune> eva yse kane
[05:22] <Qaldune> sorry
[05:22] <variant> Blacken: the people who create it need to survive too, i have donated to certain projects small amounts of money before
[05:22] <Qaldune> eva use lame
[05:22] <Flats> no easy to do it huh
[05:22] <variant> EJ: yeah
[05:22] <Blacken> variant: I've bought more than one corporate support contract, and I've donated money before.
[05:22] <variant> eva: yeah
[05:22] <Blacken> variant: Paying for the OS itself, though--no.
[05:22] <EJ> well theres that aspect too
[05:22] <Flats> easy way that is
[05:22] <EJ> a nice toll free ubuntu support number for new people
[05:22] <mathieu_> is there an "undo moved button in evolution mail ?"
[05:22] <variant> Blacken: there is nothing wrong with doing that though..
[05:22] <eva> ok ok thanks
[05:22] <EJ> paid for by paying supporters
[05:22] <bretzel> join #ubuntu
[05:22] <RevThwack> alguevara: should run fine. Would suggest a change to a real P4 and more ram if this machine is for everyday use.
[05:22] <bretzel> oops
[05:23] <bretzel> !ati
[05:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:23] <W_McL> Flats, not too difficult
[05:23] <sanmarcos> anybody else having problems with the gzip subprocess failing onm http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/source/Sources.gz when updating to edgy?
[05:23] <EJ> I like how mandriva gives the choice between gnu/free and non-free
[05:23] <EJ> choice is good
[05:23] <Qaldune> mandriva is ...
[05:23] <Qaldune> don't wanna use bad words
[05:23] <variant> EJ: not when the choice is giving away freedom
[05:23] <Flats> I dont know all the sectors and sectors per cluster and clusters and fat size and suck
[05:24] <Amaranth> EJ: For only $100/year I'll sell you my version of Ubuntu will all the non-free software you want.
[05:24] <Blacken> variant: What works is more important than what's "free".
[05:24] <Flats> sorry suck= such
[05:24] <variant> Blacken: lol
[05:24] <EJ> variant, where is the lost freedom? you can still get the free mandriva
[05:24] <RevThwack> Oh yea, happy Edgy Eft day, everyone
[05:24] <Qaldune> blacken mandriva isn't free either works
[05:24] <EJ> mandriva is free!
[05:24] <Qaldune> free at all
[05:24] <Amaranth> Anyway, this if offtopic
[05:24] <EJ> in both senses of the word
[05:25] <EJ> yeah it is
[05:25] <Mirro> hey, i cant upgrade my drake to edgy eft, some packages wont load.... what can i do??
[05:25] <Amaranth> #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue the discussion
[05:25] <EJ> well my question results in a no anways then?
[05:25] <Amaranth> Mirro: What packages?
[05:25] <Amaranth> EJ: What question?
[05:25] <Mirro> some, 922 or somthing
[05:25] <Mirro> i dunno what
[05:25] <Blacken> The bloody -generic kernel isn't recognized by the ATI installer, so you CAN'T install the package. And the repository package is broken with Xorg 7.1.
[05:25] <Amaranth> Mirro: 922 packages can't be upgraded?
[05:25] <InnerFIRE> err
[05:25] <EJ> Amaranth, whether ubuntu will ever have a 'multimedia enhanced' version that is paid for like mandriva powerpack
[05:25] <Mirro> i tried apt-get upgrade method
[05:25] <Mirro> yea
[05:25] <Amaranth> EJ: Never.
[05:25] <EJ> ok
[05:26] <InnerFIRE> mirro: do dist-upgrade
[05:26] <Amaranth> Mirro: Oh, you want to do 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[05:26] <InnerFIRE> not upgrade
[05:26] <Amaranth> Mirro: not upgrade
[05:26] <Qaldune> EJ if you like mandriva go use mandriva
[05:26] <FunnyLookinHat> What's the command for upgrading a dapper install to edgy?  And no, I don't mean just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade....   there's a real upgrade thing...
[05:26] <LookTJ> Are some repros down?
[05:26] <Blacken> So has anyone found a workaround for dealing with ATI drivers?
[05:26] <Mirro> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is what i ddid
[05:26] <Amaranth> FunnyLookinHat: gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[05:26] <LjL> !upgrade | FunnyLookinHat
[05:26] <EJ> Qaldune, i do like mandriva... but i like apt-get more
[05:26] <ubotu> FunnyLookinHat: Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:26] <InnerFIRE> mirro: use gksu "update manager -c -d"
[05:26] <LjL> Amaranth: no need for "-d", isn't not an unstable anymore
[05:26] <LjL> InnerFIRE: ^
[05:26] <FunnyLookinHat> Thanks Amaranth / LjL
[05:26] <Amaranth> LjL: hehe
[05:27] <dooglus> doesn't the update manager automatically offer edgy?
[05:27] <variant> !java
[05:27] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:27] <Amaranth> dooglus: Nope.
[05:27] <Amaranth> dooglus: dapper is LTS, edgy is not
[05:27] <dooglus> Amaranth: weird.  it did for dapper
[05:27] <dooglus> ok
[05:27] <Amaranth> dooglus: So if you want to leave the long supported version you have to do it manually. :)
[05:27] <LookTJ> are some of the repos down?
[05:27] <dooglus> if anyone is having trouble downloading the .torrent files, I put a copy of them here: http://snipurl.com/edgytorrents
[05:27] <Mirro> sudo: update: command not found
[05:27] <Mirro> Innerfire
[05:27] <Alzi2_> Why doesn't Ubuntu display my Windows partition while it DID in Dapper?
[05:28] <dooglus> Mirro: the command is 'apt-get', not 'update'
[05:28] <LjL> LookTJ: they may be very slow or unresponsive, due to the big number of connections.
[05:28] <InnerFIRE> ??
[05:28] <Blacken> Alzi2_: More information needed. Go check in your Settings->Disks panel.
[05:28] <W_McL> Flats, you don't need to specify everything, only the stuff you need to have different from default
[05:28] <Blacken> LookTJ: They're getting slammed with a whole bunch of downloads.
[05:28] <ArtVandalae> dooglus: thanks
[05:28] <sanmarcos> I am getting gzip: stdin: not in gzip format while trying to upadte to edgy
[05:29] <sanmarcos> any ideas?
[05:29] <Amaranth> Mirro: Run this: gksudo "update-manager -c"
[05:29] <Mirro> dooglus, can u give me whole command line?
[05:29] <LjL> !slowrepos
[05:29] <ubotu> Some of the Ubuntu repositories may have slow response time or time out altogether, due to the many connections from people upgrading to Edgy. Please be patient, bandwidth is a limited resource unfortunately!
[05:29] <Amaranth> Mirro: hit alt-f2, copy and paste that into the dialog that comes up
[05:29] <dooglus> Mirro: "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" <-- that one?
[05:30] <LookTJ> Blacken: but i got a server to put up...and i need proftpd and firestarter
[05:30] <LookTJ> anyway around it
[05:30] <LookTJ> ?
[05:30] <InnerFIRE> has anyone attempted to use their smartphone with edgy?
[05:30] <pithen> Is Upstart going to be the default in Edgy or will initd still be used out of the box?
[05:30] <Mirro> dooglus, i tryed the comman on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[05:30] <Amaranth> pithen: upstart is the default
[05:30] <Alzi2_> Blacken, Settings -> Disks? I see no Settings->Disks.. it's dutch :(
[05:30] <ToHellWithGA> are there any planned changes in the netboot installation image?  the server shows the last netboot's date as the 21st.
[05:31] <livingdaylight> the download is 698.4 mb!!! They sure packed that cd to the max
[05:31] <variant> pithen: it's allready the default.. sysv init is no longer there
[05:31] <Amaranth> pithen: but right now it's running in all the old sysv init scripts still, those won't start moving over to upstart scripts until feisty
[05:31] <dooglus> Mirro: and it's OK now?
[05:31] <Mirro> Amaranth, i dunno what to type in :) what i tryed from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades didnt work
[05:31] <Mirro> dooglus, no
[05:31] <unimatrix9> wich pci wireless ( brandname ) works out of the box/
[05:31] <unimatrix9> ?
[05:31] <Amaranth> Mirro: I told you what to type in
[05:31] <sanmarcos> I am getting gzip: stdin: not in gzip format while trying to upadte to edgy
[05:31] <dooglus> Mirro: you ran     gksu "update-manager -c"     ?
[05:32] <Amaranth> Mirro: Press Alt-F2, put `gksudo "update-manager -c"` in the box that comes up
[05:32] <pithen> Amaranth, but I should still be able to modify scripts/create my own to act on given events, correct?
[05:32] <Mirro> okok
[05:32] <Amaranth> pithen: yeah
[05:32] <smax> Is there any alternative dvd-mirrow of edgy. Main mirrow is slow ( 100 b/s)
[05:32] <pettern> Failed to fetch http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[05:32] <Amaranth> smax: Use the torrents
[05:32] <pettern> i cant upgrade because of that
[05:32] <LjL> !automatix | pettern
[05:32] <ubotu> pettern: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[05:32] <blossom5> I think the torrents could be made more visible!
[05:32] <elmargol> smax: use torrent or jigdo
[05:32] <LjL> pettern: don't use automatix.
[05:32] <Ironfrost> I asked before, but nobody answered: Is it possible to install Ubuntu from a USB drive (my laptop has no CD drive), and if so how would I do this?
[05:32] <variant> pettern: automatix is dangerous
[05:32] <blossom5> I couldn't find them on the download page.
[05:32] <MtJB> is it possible to upgrade to edgy from dapper without reinstalling?
[05:32] <pithen> great. i was just reading about it on linux.com, this really seems like it's going to be a great improvement over the old system
[05:32] <blossom5> Is there something obvious I'm missing?
[05:33] <LjL> !upgrade | MtJB
[05:33] <ubotu> MtJB: Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:33] <Amaranth> Ironfrost: I believe it is but it's a bit of a pain
[05:33] <pettern> but if i remove it from sources it should probebly work
[05:33] <Mirro> Amaranth, dooglus, it says it cannot install all available updates, and tells me to "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:33] <LjL> blossom5: just scroll down in the download page
[05:33] <Mirro> should i?
[05:33] <MtJB> thanks, LjL  reading it now
[05:33] <variant> pettern: try it, good luck
[05:33] <eva> sorry i am new and i like to make mp3 of my cds and i aam not good in iinstalling program so if there is anyone that have a easy way pls tell me
[05:33] <Ironfrost> Amaranth: Is there a howto somewhere?
[05:33] <Amaranth> Mirro: Alright. Open a terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal) and run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[05:33] <variant> eva: grip is an excellent program for doing this
[05:33] <variant> eva: apt-get install grip
[05:34] <blossom5> ljl: I scrolled down, all I see is 6.06 LTS releases
[05:34] <Amaranth> Ironfrost: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[05:34] <Ironfrost> thanks a lot :D
[05:34] <eva> variant in a terminal window
[05:34] <variant> eva: yeah
[05:34] <Amaranth> Mirro: Is that doing anything?
[05:34] <Mirro> oh yea
[05:34] <variant> eva: as root (sudo apt-get install grip)
[05:35] <ehird> :O the interwebs are workings"
[05:35] <blossom5> Perhaps the download page could be updated to better highlight the torrents.
[05:35] <ehird> hellos from ubuntu.
[05:35] <jaaay> hello everyone, I have a question
[05:35] <eva> variant thanks
[05:35] <variant> eva: yw
[05:35] <ehird> anyway, just a quick question now: seems i'm limited to 1024x768 85hz... i take it i need to install some drivers?
[05:36] <Mirro> Amaranth, the same it did last time, mb it will work now...
[05:36] <Mirro> 869 upgraded, 162 newly installed, 25 to remove and 32 not upgraded.
[05:36] <Mirro> Need to get 686MB/697MB of archives.
[05:36] <Mirro> After unpacking 216MB of additional disk space will be used.
[05:36] <LjL> blossom5: type /topic
[05:36] <Mirro> :)
[05:36] <ehird> the display seems a bit jittery and flashy too
[05:36] <ehird> so yeah i'm assuming it's drivers i need
[05:36] <Amaranth> Mirro: Do it. :)
[05:36] <variant> eva: take a look in the config options of grip (the different tabs) they allow you to specify how the files are named etc.. and where to output the files. you would be better using ogg format if you don't _require_ mp3
[05:37] <Mirro> Amaranth, will it take long? will those 686MB/697MB be downloaded now?
[05:37] <jaaay> I want to associate a file type (avi) in this case with a shell script that would run in a terminal window
[05:37] <Amaranth> Mirro: Yeah, they'll start downloading now
[05:37] <unimatrix9> does it take longer then norrmal to get the ship it cdroms?
[05:37] <Amaranth> Mirro: what kind of internet connection do you have?
[05:37] <ehird> unimatrix9: it takes 6 weeks or so
[05:37] <variant> unimatrix9: edgy is not going to be shipped with shipit afaik
[05:37] <apokryphos> unimatrix9: no shipit for edgy; only for loco teams
[05:38] <pettern> so you say automatix is dangerous and automatix said not to belive you in their faq, whats so bad with automatix?
[05:38] <Amaranth> unimatrix9: shipit isn't doing ubuntu 6.10 cds
[05:38] <unimatrix9> also for the approval?
[05:38] <blossom5> ljl: RIght, but most people are going to head to the download page, which feels outdated.
[05:38] <Amaranth> pettern: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:38] <blossom5> ljl: all the links are to 6.06 releases.
[05:38] <LjL> pettern: well, the fact that they disparge the *official* advice from the *official* support channels of ubuntu should give you a clue.
[05:38] <Amaranth> pettern: We're there, we can tell you all about it. :)
[05:38] <variant> pettern: well, did your upgrade go flawlessly from dapper to edgy? or did you have some problem with automatix?
[05:38] <LookTJ> LookTJ: they may be very slow or unresponsive, due to the big number of connections. LjL: they are unresponsive
[05:38] <Mirro> Amaranth, cuz my traffic sux, its DSL, but connects with 20-80kb/s
[05:38] <doppelganger_> pettern: it usually takes longer for people to troubleshoot any problems you have with a particular program that you install through Automatix.
[05:38] <Mirro> 3h!!! omg...
[05:39] <LjL> LookTJ: eh, yeah, that's what i said
[05:39] <ehird> just a random thought: how dangerous and/or easy would it be to get rid of gnome+gnome apps and install kde on edgy?
[05:39] <wastrel> ehird:  install kubuntu-desktop
[05:39] <LjL> blossom5: maybe. hey, keep in mind it's just been released. give them a little time to update everything there is to update ;)
[05:39] <apokryphos> ehird: upgrade to edgy first, then install kubuntu-desktop
[05:39] <unimatrix9> this is an strange new turn , ship it, you can get the 6.06 for free, or , and now it comes, buy the newest version!
[05:39] <ehird> wastrel: kubuntu was mighty unstable on this system
[05:39] <ehird> apokryphos: i am on edgy
[05:40] <unimatrix9> is this not agianst the spirit of ubunut?
[05:40] <blossom5> ljl: just wanting to get it on the radar. Seeding the -server version already...
[05:40] <apokryphos> ehird: so install k-d
[05:40] <Amaranth> Mirro: It'll probably take about an hour or two to install after it's done downloading. :P
[05:40] <unimatrix9> very confusing
[05:40] <ehird> apokryphos: but then i'd have no apps
[05:40] <apokryphos> ehird: why?
[05:40] <ehird> and all the gnome apps stil lthere
[05:40] <ehird> apokryphos: well if i installed just kde i wouldn't have any apps
[05:40] <Mirro> Amaranth, thx, i'll go get somthing to eat now )
[05:40] <apokryphos> ehird: why? Kubuntu-desktop installs all the kubuntu recommended apps
[05:40] <eva> variant do i need a special encoder
[05:41] <variant> pettern: my real problem with automatix is not htat it doesn't work (it clearly does what it is supposed to) but that it automates the installation of non free(dom) software without so much of a warning
[05:41] <marx71> what's happening here? i see my edgy downloads are done...installing now.
[05:41] <ehird> apokryphos: because kubuntu is unstable on this system
[05:41] <unimatrix9> ubuntu will alway' s be for free, but if you want the newest its for fee ( without the r, so -r )
[05:41] <variant> eva: no, you just need to have mp3 support or ogg support installed (ogg is there by default)
[05:41] <steven43126>  I have a problem with samba i just can't fix, i can't browse any of the computers in the workgroup they just don't show i get the following in /var/log/samba/log.nmdb http://pastebin.ca/222788
[05:41] <apokryphos> ehird: in what way? If you have problems running it (seems doubtful) then you can always switch on the login screen back to gnome
[05:41] <ANBU_escorts> hi
[05:42] <apokryphos> hello
[05:42] <steven43126> just can't figure out where it's getting 192.168.0.183 from ?
[05:42] <ehird> apokryphos: because i've used kubuntu before and it randomly effed up itself - it gave me its logo and progress bar and stayed there on startup
[05:42] <ANBU_escorts> could I get some seriusly needed help
[05:42] <ehird> after doing nothing unusual
[05:42] <ehird> plus its lack of build-essentials is annoying
[05:42] <apokryphos> ehird: well try doing that now and tell me how it goes
[05:42] <eva> variant how do i get that
[05:42] <apokryphos> ehird: build-essential is available on the CD, just like ubuntu's
[05:42] <dooglus> unimatrix9: the new release is free too.
[05:42] <variant> eva: can you play mp3 files allready?
[05:42] <ANBU_escorts> the sound doesn't work on my t-21 laptop
[05:42] <variant> !mp3
[05:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:43] <ehird> apokryphos: i've just got my internet connection working on linux after trying for 3 years! i'm not going to try something like that without assurance
[05:43] <variant> !mp3 | eva
[05:43] <ubotu> eva: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:43] <unimatrix9> i am reading aloud whats on the ship it page
[05:43] <eva> variant havent tried it yet
[05:43] <apokryphos> ehird: your claim is that you won't be able to boot into the OS if you install k-d?
[05:43] <variant> eva: read the stuf ubotu just said at you
[05:43] <ANBU_escorts> my sound doesn't work can I get soome help
[05:44] <ehird> apokryphos: no, after some use it won't
[05:44] <clownish23> hey i have killed my grub by installing xp, i tried to recover like its written in the wiki with chroot and so on, but when i reboot grub apears, but by each system i try to start, it says unknowen file system
[05:44] <eva> variant ok thanks
[05:44] <ehird> apokryphos: this doesn't happen with ubuntu, thus i use ubuntu
[05:44] <engla> /topic
[05:44] <ANBU_escorts> ?
[05:44] <hume> anyone using a way of mapping encrypted partitions during boot-process?
[05:44] <engla> [typo] 
[05:44] <Falstius> so, now I can ask edgy questions here?
[05:44] <ANBU_escorts> CAN i PLZ GET SOME HELP!
[05:44] <apokryphos> ehird: well, install just the plain KDE stuff then. There's no way that will tinker with any booting processes
[05:44] <apokryphos> ANBU_escorts: no caps please :)
[05:44] <apokryphos> !helpme
[05:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:45] <ANBU_escorts> sorry
[05:45] <apokryphos> ANBU_escorts: /msg ubotu sound
[05:45] <dooglus> unimatrix9: if you don't want to download it and burn it, you are free to pay someone else to do those steps for you.  you are also free to offer that same service to other people.  that's the spirit of ubuntu.
[05:45] <ANBU_escorts> my sound on my t-21 laptop dosn't work anymore
[05:45] <ehird> apokryphos: maybe in a bit i guess, i'm fixing my display problem first
[05:45] <steven43126> anyone help with this it's really wierd ?  http://pastebin.ca/222788
[05:45] <crochat_> How to generate UUIDs for partitions other than ext2/ext3 (i.e. ntfs or vfat) ?
[05:45] <Mirro> ist edgy eft Aiglx/Glx-ready? with all those 3D stuff. Or will I have to install it afterwards too?
[05:46] <unimatrix9> dooglus ,thats not the point, the point is that its not the ubuntu spirit...
[05:46] <susscorfa> Mirro: you will have to install it afterwards
[05:46] <dooglus> unimatrix9: while it's nice that shipit is paying postage and all other costs, that's really just an added extra and nothing to do with the word free as it relates to free software
[05:46] <engla> susscorfa: can compiz/beryl be installed from universe, or do you need 3rd party repos?
[05:46] <Amaranth> engla: 3rd party repos
[05:46] <dvheumen> lupine_85: I've got the route to the ADSL modem covered (pinging/web interface access) but for some reason tcpdump doesn't show ICMP reply packets if I ping to my DNS server (it does reply pings if I try my linux server) ... but my ADSL modems applies NAT translation so the internet subnets shouldn't  matter to the outside world, should they?
[05:47] <unimatrix9> i understand that, but the ubuntu manifesto say' s , it shall be free
[05:47] <susscorfa> see this wiki engla and Mirro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BerylOnEdgy
[05:47] <Mirro> susscorfa, a new ati-driver too?
[05:47] <susscorfa> i dont know
[05:47] <Mirro> ok
[05:47] <dooglus> unimatrix9: and it is free.  they are referring to freedom.
[05:47] <dvheumen> lupine_85:  *internet subnets --> internal subnets
[05:47] <holstein> Anyone is using Xen on edgy?
[05:47] <Mins> does anyone have any exstensive knowledge about Bittorrent protocol?
[05:47] <gumbeto> hi there
[05:48] <holstein> I'm having a kernel panic whenever I do a xm create watever.cfg
[05:48] <unimatrix9> i understand the word freedom, as in the sense of human rights and freedom , like stallman suggests
[05:48] <dooglus> Mins: this isn't the channel to talk about bittorrent protocol.  did you try #bittorrent?
[05:48] <gumbeto> I'm seeking help about cpu scalling frequency
[05:48] <unimatrix9> but then applied to software
[05:48] <gumbeto> i'm having some problems with it for some time now
[05:48] <Amaranth> gumbeto: What kind of help?
[05:48] <ehird> weird... in firefox, backspace instead of "Back" is doing Page Up
[05:49] <gumbeto> and I just installed edgy
[05:49] <Amaranth> ehird: I believe that was an intentional change
[05:49] <Falstius> my hibernate is broken, I found a bug report talking about the same issue but the fix doesn't work for me (put the uuid of swap in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume and rebuild initrd) ... if I manually put resume=/dev/hda2 on the command line it works though and mounting the swap by UUID works ... any suggestions for getting it to resume from hibernate automatically/
[05:49] <Amaranth> ehird: Imagine filling in a form, tabbing off the text entry, then hitting backspace to delete the tab (like you would in a word processor). You just lost your form
[05:49] <engla> hmm. I need beryl info for powerpc. a late compiz and xgl worked (0.13?), so it should still be possible..
[05:49] <gumbeto> after restarting, I got a message telling me I had no support interface for cpu frequency
[05:49] <ANBU_escorts> is the broken upgrade fixed?
[05:50] <Amaranth> gumbeto: What CPU is this?
[05:50] <unimatrix9> dooglus , the point is that ubuntu promised that it would be free of charge to, but it seems not to apply to the newest version for wich you now have to pay
[05:50] <gumbeto> amaranthit's some centrino
[05:50] <ehird> amaranth: um, of course it wouldn't do it in text fields
[05:50] <_mendred> Falstius: add the resume= line to ur grub
[05:50] <dooglus> unimatrix9: I just got the newest version.  I didn't pay anything.
[05:50] <unimatrix9> if you want it via ship it
[05:50] <Vaske_Car> please somebody help here, yesterday I turned off ubuntu normaly, this morning it does not start. It boot and pass that Ubuntu screen but as soon as it load X i got only dark background. ????
[05:50] <unimatrix9> 6.10, via ship it
[05:50] <matt_o|work> does anyone know which daemon/program ubuntu uses to detect when a CD is inserted and automount it?
[05:50] <dooglus> unimatrix9: they never promised to pay postage forever!
[05:50] <Amaranth> unimatrix9: Dude, they've giving away free CDs. They don't owe you anything.
[05:50] <gumbeto> but I had it working when I first installed breezy
[05:50] <ANBU_escorts> once I downloaded the upgrade and it left me with only a terminal login
[05:51] <jdt> what.....
[05:51] <gumbeto> and also when i first installed dapper
[05:51] <jdt> ubuntu isnt free ????????????????????/
[05:51] <Amaranth> ehird: I'm saying when you accidently tab away from a text box
[05:51] <dream_theater> anyone have any hints/suggestions for installing on a macbook pro?  I have a triple booting system that I kinda just want to wipe out.  are there any issues with efi,gpt, elilo,partitioning, etc?
[05:51] <Amaranth> jdt: No, it is.
[05:51] <dooglus> jdt: ubuntu is free, but 'shipit' doesn't ship the 6.10 version; it's still shipping 6.06
[05:51] <bastiq> X won't start because it can't detect any displays... anyone got an idea of what's wrong?
[05:51] <dooglus> if you want 6.10 posted to you, there are other companies willing to do so, but they charge $5 or so
[05:52] <unimatrix9> but ship it does charge for 6.10
[05:52] <Falstius> _mendred: what if I actually reboot instead of hibernate then?  It seems like there should be something better.
[05:52] <dooglus> unimatrix9: no, they just refer you to other companies who will ship you the disks if you want them to
[05:52] <jdt> Amaranth: I just came back and read unimatrix9's quote and thought - wow - they changed stance on that promise pretty quickly! :)
[05:52] <Podex> shipit doesnt ship 6.10 at all
[05:52] <unimatrix9> never mind, it will be okey, i will drop the topic
[05:52] <gumbeto> now I upgraded to edgy and, even when I try to install powernowd or cpufreqd, it complains about nor having the required interface
[05:52] <LookTJ> jti: the reason shipit doesn't ship 6.10 free is because 6.10 isn't LTS(Long Term Support
[05:52] <LookTJ> )
[05:52] <Amaranth> gumbeto: weird.
[05:52] <Amaranth> gumbeto: What kind of laptop is this?
[05:52] <unimatrix9> we will be good friends agian :)
[05:53] <Falstius> gumbeto: are you running a standard kernel?
[05:53] <Vaske_Car> why I get dark background on ly as soon as X start?
[05:53] <_mendred> Falstius: ? just add it to ur menu.lst..then reboot..then u should be able to hibernate and resume peacefully
[05:53] <gumbeto> Amaranth: it's a toshiba labtop
[05:53] <disasm> wheres the edgy+1 channel?
[05:53] <gumbeto> Amaranth: yes I think so
[05:53] <Lemino> anyone who can help med get ati working in edgy?
[05:53] <user-land> thanks, rawsewage, bittorrent currently takes 1.5 hours to download Ubuntu 6.10.
[05:53] <Qaldune> lemino i think dapper faq should work
[05:53] <gumbeto> I just did a normal upgrade to edgy
[05:53] <LookTJ> the unresponsive repos is driving me nuts
[05:53] <Qaldune> anyway if not wait a few days for a new one
[05:53] <Amaranth> gumbeto: that's...really odd
[05:53] <unimatrix9> i am running distribution point in my home town for ubuntu ,....its going well, but i ran out of cdroms, hence the worrie..
[05:54] <_mendred> Falstius: didn't quite understand what u said..
[05:54] <bastiq> Anyone know why my X server won't start after i installed the nvidia drivers? It says it can't detect my display.
[05:54] <Amaranth> gumbeto: You haven't upgraded your BIOS or anything?
[05:54] <Lemino> Qaldune: i tried that, but somehow it failed.
[05:54] <Vaske_Car> what is the command to upgrade to Edgy and can it be done from recovery mode?
[05:54] <ehird> question: if i use the package manager in gnome, then switch to KDE, do i lose out on the uninstall etc. capabilities or will it carry over?
[05:54] <gumbeto> Amaranth: my kernel version is 2.6.17-10-386
[05:54] <Falstius> gumbeto: well, if you weren't running a standard kernel in dapper it might not upgrade the kernel.  But if you weren't, you aren't.
[05:54] <gumbeto> Amaranth: no I didn't
[05:54] <Amaranth> bastiq: Did it say 'No Screens found'?
[05:54] <unimatrix9> happy tuxing you all
[05:54] <unimatrix9> :)
[05:54] <Amaranth> gumbeto: Try using the generic kernel
[05:54] <dincer> hi all
[05:54] <Qaldune> lemino i can't help any further i've got no idea about ati cards
[05:54] <unimatrix9> diner is ready
[05:55] <bastiq> Amaranth: Possible, but i think is was something about displays.
[05:55] <macmadiath> question and request for opinion - I'm running Dapper (going to upgrade here in a bit) and I'm looking for a product to edit ASP scripts.  I'm currently using Bluefish, but it doesn't do syntax highlighting.  Anything available that will do syntax highlighting for ASP code?
[05:55] <unimatrix9> bye bye
[05:55] <Amaranth> bastiq: I'd have to see all the real errors
[05:55] <bowman> It is quite probable that I'm too stupid to read, but where in heaven or hell is the directory debian/etc. in the kernel sources??
[05:55] <Amaranth> bastiq: are you dual-booting or something?
[05:55] <LookTJ> is anyway around the unresponsive downloads?
[05:55] <ehird> guess they wouldn't
[05:55] <Qaldune> c ya all gays
[05:55] <Qaldune> guys sorry
[05:55] <Lemino> Qaldune: ok, thanks anyway.
[05:55] <bastiq> Amaranth: That could be tricky, im in the command line. Yes, im dual-booting.
[05:55] <Qaldune> np lemino
[05:55] <Lemino> anyone else how knows something?
[05:55] <variant> LookTJ: what mirror is it?
[05:56] <gumbeto> Amaranth: when I tried to install cpufreq I got this "Setting up cpufreqd (2.1.1-1) ...
[05:56] <gumbeto> No cpufreq interface found, not starting cpufreqd."
[05:56] <LookTJ> variant: it's security.ubuntu.com
[05:56] <variant> LookTJ: hmm, workds here
[05:56] <barongas> How do I upgrade to 6.10 without downloading the image? Shouldn't I be able to just dist-upgrade or something?
[05:56] <Amaranth> bastiq: Alright, I need you to reboot to ubuntu and after X fails to start and you're at the command line run 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE'
[05:56] <gumbeto> Amaranth: when installing powernowd, I got: Setting up powernowd (0.97-1ubuntu6) ...
[05:56] <gumbeto>  * Starting powernowd...                                                        /etc/init.d/powernowd: 156: cannot create /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor: Directory nonexistent
[05:56] <Amaranth> bastiq: And look for any obvious 'oops' errors
[05:57] <DBO> barongas, you can do that yes
[05:57] <CarinArr> barongas, sudo update-manager -c
[05:57] <LookTJ> variant: im trying to add repos
[05:57] <Amaranth> gumbeto: install linux-image-generic
[05:57] <CarinArr> will work too
[05:57] <lerch> Hi. I'm looking for a way to batch rename all files in a directory to lowercase and replace spaces with underscores. Thanks.
[05:57] <Amaranth> gumbeto: and try booting with that
[05:57] <smax> The cd and DVD server is down or something like that
[05:57] <gumbeto> ok
[05:57] <ricanelite> Hello all, I just did a update of the new edgy, but how can I make sure my hole Ubuntu OS is all up to date
[05:57] <bastiq> Amaranth: Damn, i missed it and i'm short of a scroll atm :P
[05:57] <azureal> servers are slow today =P
[05:57] <gumbeto> Amaranth: Ok, I will try that
[05:57] <bastiq> hold on... page up works
[05:57] <DBO> ricanelite, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:57] <barongas> CarinArr: Thanks!
[05:57] <ricanelite> can i do a sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade?
[05:57] <LookTJ> variant: but when i click reload it just stays there
[05:57] <gumbeto> Amaranth: thanx
[05:58] <Amaranth> ricanelite: Open synaptic, press the refresh button, see if you have any upgrades available
[05:58] <variant> LookTJ: sorry, no idea
[05:58] <Amaranth> ricanelite: then make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed (or kubuntu-desktop for kubuntu)
[05:58] <ricanelite> well im using right now Ubuntu
[05:58] <ricanelite> i mean Kubuntu
[05:58] <bastiq> Amaranth: Rebooting now, i'll be right back.
[05:58] <Amaranth> ricanelite: alright, we'll do it from a terminal :)
[05:59] <DBO> ricanelite, or use adept
[05:59] <Amaranth> bastiq: alright
[05:59] <LookTJ> variant:  i think the capacity lowered in the updates and repos
[05:59] <DesolationX> hey guys thanks again alt install works well
[05:59] <Vaske_Car> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is to upgrade Dapper to Edgy?
[05:59] <LookTJ> now i got firestarter
[05:59] <DBO> Vaske_Car, no, its just a smart upgrade
[05:59] <Amaranth> ricanelite: Open a terminal (I don't know how in Kubuntu), run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[05:59] <DesolationX> now i need some help i want to install vlc
[05:59] <Amaranth> ricanelite: then run 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[05:59] <DBO> Vaske_Car, to update dapper to edgy sudo update-manager -c
[05:59] <d-E-u-S> when i shut down my xubuntu then turn the hdd off but the pc is still on, what can i do?
[05:59] <Vaske_Car> DBO, how can I upgrade to Edgy from recovery mode?
[06:00] <Amaranth> Vaske_Car: If dapper is broken fix it before you upgrade to edgy
[06:00] <DBO> Vaske_Car, you will need to fix it first, recovery mode has no net connection
[06:00] <Vaske_Car> Amaranth, I wish I know how
[06:00] <Amaranth> Vaske_Car: What's wrong with dapper?
[06:00] <Vaske_Car> I just get dark background as soon as X start
[06:00] <hamburguesa> hello
[06:00] <smax> jigdo help me. But what is .temlate whith 600 mb size?
[06:00] <Vaske_Car> turned it off yesterday normally
[06:01] <DBO> Vaske_Car, using binary drivers?
[06:01] <hamburguesa> vaske_car quien eres
[06:01] <MFen> are there any apt mirrors? so far i've only found .iso mirrors and i'd like to upgrade using apt
[06:01] <DesolationX> vlc install please i need help
[06:01] <tsole1> hi to all her
[06:01] <Vaske_Car> I did not use anything else I used before, yesterday I was just checking emails thats all
[06:01] <MarcC> can a Dapper user please send the output of "xvinfo"?
[06:01] <italianovero> ciao! do you speak italian or english?
[06:01] <LjL> !it
[06:01] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:01] <Amaranth> !it
[06:01] <hamburguesa> helooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[06:01] <InnerF|RE> jesus
[06:02] <Amaranth> hamburguesa: Don't do that.
[06:02] <Vaske_Car> DBO, I have ATI driver that come with Ubuntu, not third party
[06:02] <InnerF|RE> why does the system hang when a usb store device is loaded on bootup?
[06:02] <tsole1> hey guys how can i cascade windows here on ubuntu??
[06:02] <DBO> Vaske_Car, ok boot it back into normal mode and see if pressing ctrl alt f1 will get you a text only login prompt
[06:03] <InnerF|RE> does that have anything to do with ubuntu or my system?
[06:03] <variant> InnerF|RE: it doesn't here, what does dmesg say?
[06:03] <variant> InnerF|RE: or the logfiles
[06:03] <Vaske_Car> DBO, if does what should i do?
[06:03] <InnerF|RE> not during the init..
[06:03] <InnerF|RE> when i turn on my computer
[06:03] <Vaske_Car> DBO, my Ubuntu is on diferent room...
[06:03] <Amaranth> InnerF|RE: It probably has something to do with ubuntu
[06:03] <variant> InnerF|RE: before grub is loaded?
[06:03] <bastiq> Amaranth: The error was "No Decices Detected"
[06:03] <Paddy_EIRE> what would be considered one of the most up-to-date ubuntu podcasts and where would I get it, and with what app
[06:03] <DBO> Vaske_Car, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:03] <InnerF|RE> yes
[06:03] <tsole1> anyone knows how can i cascade windows on ubuntu??
[06:03] <Amaranth> InnerF|RE: Others have reported the problem, I've never seen a fix
[06:03] <rendo> Are they not shipping 6.10?
[06:04] <Amaranth> bastiq: nothing else?
[06:04] <InnerF|RE> way before grub
[06:04] <variant> InnerF|RE: then, thats absolutly nothing to do with ubuntu
[06:04] <InnerF|RE> when i power up the computer and it checks ram etc
[06:04] <Vaske_Car> DBO, OK I am going to try
[06:04] <Amaranth> InnerF|RE: oh, if it happens before grub it's your system
[06:04] <Amaranth> InnerF|RE: it's probably trying to boot from the usb stick
[06:04] <InnerF|RE> k
[06:04] <bastiq> Amaranth: Nope. That was the only EE
[06:04] <DesolationX> vlc can anyone help ?
[06:04] <Alzi2_> Hi all. Why doesn't my Ubuntu Edgy detect my WIndows partition, while in Dapper it did?
[06:04] <Amaranth> bastiq: ouchie
[06:04] <rendo> Is Ubuntu going to be doing the free CD shipping's for 6.10?
[06:04] <variant> InnerF|RE: disable usb in the bios. linux will still be able to detect and use it
[06:04] <Amaranth> bastiq: If you switch back to the 'nv' or 'vesa' drivers does it work?
[06:04] <lupine_85> rendo: don't think so, no
[06:04] <variant> rendo: no
[06:04] <rendo> Why the hell not? :/
[06:04] <bastiq> Amaranth: Nope.
[06:05] <lupine_85> 'cos
[06:05] <MFen> so, no 6.10 apt archives out there? we have to hammer on us.archive.ubuntu.com all day?
[06:05] <Amaranth> bastiq: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:05] <lupine_85> MFen: plenty of other mirrors
[06:05] <InnerF|RE> k
[06:05] <MFen> lupine_85: i've only seen mirrors of the ISOs
[06:05] <Amaranth> bastiq: actually, wait
[06:05] <MFen> lots of those.
[06:05] <rendo> "cos'" isn't an answer though.  They're trying to be the best Linux Distro and were doing it for all the other releases than decide to stop?  That's just asinine.
[06:05] <Amaranth> bastiq: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:05] <Amaranth> bastiq: see if it works with a stock xorg.conf
[06:05] <lupine_85> gb.archive.ubuntu.com ...
[06:05] <lupine_85> cz. ca. etc etc
[06:06] <bastiq> Amaranth: Thanks, i'll be right back.
[06:06] <lupine_85> rendo: "how dare they refuse to give me a free CD"?
[06:06] <Amaranth> rendo: It's because dapper is the LTS release
[06:06] <Amaranth> rendo: edgy is a rushed technology playground
[06:06] <variant> rendo: it cost's them a fortune, why should they? they give away what they can afford
[06:06] <lupine_85> you could always start a community initiative to get edgy CDs to those who can't live without them
[06:06] <nemlah> Hello all and congrats to edgy
[06:07] <Vaske_Car> DBO, CTRL-ALT-F1 does not get command promt...
[06:07] <variant> rendo: you setup and distribute an edgy cd distribution business if it pleases you
[06:07] <nemlah> Is XGL or AIGLX default for edgy?
[06:07] <variant> lol, rendo....
[06:07] <iter> AIGLX
[06:07] <iter> Vaske_Car: do you have a f-lock key on your kb ?
[06:07] <Amaranth> nemlah: AIGLX support is built-in to Xorg 7.1 in edgy
[06:07] <DesolationX> anyone know how to sudo install  vlc ?
[06:07] <iter> I hate that key
[06:07] <DBO> nemlah, AIGLX is included in Xorg 7.1 which is in edgy
[06:07] <variant> nemlah: aiglx is available as default, it is not activated as default though
[06:07] <Paddy_EIRE> !aiglx
[06:07] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[06:07] <DBO> DesolationX, sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:07] <Amaranth> DesolationX: sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:08] <variant> DesolationX: apt-get install vlc
[06:08] <nemlah> hmm
[06:08] <Tschaka> lol^^
[06:08] <Blacken> Anyone tried to install VMware in Edgy?
[06:08] <nemlah> i think i am in the mesa loop again
[06:08] <DesolationX> lol
[06:08] <DesolationX> ^_^
[06:08] <Vaske_Car> iter, i dont think so
[06:08] <nemlah> fglrxinfo shows mesa drivers
[06:08] <zachtib> speaking of xorg, what's changing in 7.2?
[06:08] <nemlah> running on a radeon 95500
[06:08] <nemlah> 9550
[06:08] <Vaske_Car> iter, its standard keyboard withotu special features
[06:08] <bastiq> Amaranth: Yes, it did work. Thanks, but how do i get the nvidia driver to work?
[06:08] <DBO> zachtib, a lot but offtopic convo needs to go elsewhere right now, things are busy
[06:09] <iter> I wish I had a kb w/o f-lock
[06:09] <iter> worst function ever
[06:09] <yipe> YAY! Officialness!
[06:09] <DBO> bastiq, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[06:09] <feni23> is there anybody, who speaks german???
[06:09] <DBO> !de
[06:09] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:09] <nemlah> me
[06:09] <iter> nien
[06:09] <nemlah> hehe
[06:09] <Alzi2_> Hi all. Why doesn't my Ubuntu Edgy detect my WIndows partition, while in Dapper it did?
[06:09] <DesolationX> hmmm
[06:10] <DesolationX> guys my password isn't working
[06:10] <DBO> Alzi2_, did you add it to your /etc/fstab?
[06:10] <DBO> DesolationX, reset it in recovery mode
[06:10] <iter> DesolationX: boot to single user from cd and do passwd <username>
[06:10] <iter> I love trolling slashdot
[06:10] <variant> I have upgraded from beta edgy to final edgy but now apt seems to think there are a bunch of packages on my system that should be removed because they are no longer needed.. this is not the case. anyone know how to fix that?
[06:10] <iter> I am the troll-master
[06:11] <Alzi2_> DBO: No.. how?
[06:11] <apokryphos> iter: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:11] <iter> hehe
[06:11] <DesolationX> iter or DBO: well is it my login pass?
[06:11] <lupine_85> variant: is ubuntu-desktop still installed ?
[06:11] <iter> DesolationX: if you can't login, you can reset the password
[06:11] <Amaranth> DesolationX: sudo uses your login password, yes
[06:11] <variant> lupine_85: it wasn't, but i have just installed it
[06:11] <variant> lupine_85: the error is stillt here
[06:11] <Alzi2_> DBO: No.. how?
[06:12] <DBO> !fstab | Alzi2_
[06:12] <ubotu> Alzi2_: The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[06:12] <Alzi2_> !partition
[06:12] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[06:12] <Alzi2_> !partitions
[06:12] <lupine_85> that's incorrect..... bad bot
[06:12] <ashzilla> Hi friends. I just changed my repos to Edgy's, updated my sources.list and then ran apt-get dist-upgrade - however, my x-server can not be loaded
[06:12] <HoY1> Does anyone know any good Ubuntu books to buy?
[06:12] <Amaranth> ick
[06:12] <Amaranth> !windows
[06:12] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1  -  !equivalents  -  http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[06:12] <eracc> Hmmm, *buntu's ssh does not have X11 forwarding support enabled by default. I had to relearn how to set that up today. Good thing I have a Mandriva box to study. :-p
[06:12] <Amaranth> that's not right either
[06:12] <Amaranth> stupid bot :P
[06:12] <variant> lupine_85: any ideas?
[06:12] <DesolationX> and i should be doing this in the terminal i searched universe and i couldn't get vlc
[06:12] <Amaranth> !info vlc edgy
[06:12] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[06:13] <Amaranth> DesolationX: it's in universe, are you sure you have universe enabled?
[06:13] <lupine_85> variant: as long as you don't run apt-get autoremove it shouldn't do anthing bad... if you want to be sure, you could always apt-get install --reinstall <those-package>
[06:13] <ashzilla> WHat's the command to start the x server?
[06:13] <DesolationX> i pretty sure i do
[06:13] <ashzilla> ERm, to reconfigure the x-server
[06:13] <iter> ashzilla: startx ?
[06:13] <JaXxon> startx
[06:13] <disasm> dist-upgrade time!
[06:13] <iter> ashzilla: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:13] <eracc> startx <foo>
[06:13] <Amaranth> DesolationX: also, after you enable universe hit the reload button in synaptic
[06:13] <eracc> Or just startx
[06:14] <ashzilla> iter: I'm sorry, I mean to reconfigure the xorg.conf
[06:14] <JaXxon> Has anyone don a dist-upgrade from 6.06 yo 6.10?
[06:14] <Amaranth> ashzilla: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:14] <ashzilla> Hi friends. I just changed my repos to Edgy's, updated my sources.list and then ran apt-get dist-upgrade - however, my x-server can not be loaded, there's some error
[06:14] <DesolationX> k cool
[06:14] <Amaranth> JaXxon: lots of people
[06:14] <ashzilla> Amaranth: is it possible for me to run that command still while in irssi?
[06:14] <abhinay> which browser takes less RAM ?
[06:14] <DBO> abhinay, lynx
[06:14] <Amaranth> ashzilla: you're in a tty?
[06:14] <ashzilla> Amaranth: Can I launch another terminal window, is what I mean
[06:14] <JaXxon> and what is the verdict? Is it safe to do?
[06:14] <ashzilla> Amaranth: what's tty?
[06:14] <iter> ashzilla: ctrl-alt-f2
[06:14] <eracc> abhinay, links
[06:15] <abhinay> DBO, graphical
[06:15] <Amaranth> ashzilla: alt-f2 to get to a new terminal, alt-f1 to get back to irssi
[06:15] <DBO> abhinay, epiphany is pretty good about RAM
[06:15] <ashzilla> iter: perfect, thanks
[06:15] <DesolationX> Amaranth: any mp3 player like windos media or itunes in universe... i also need wine
[06:15] <ashzilla> Amaranth: thanks for the cmd
[06:15] <JaXxon> Amaranth: is the dist-upgrade safe to do?
[06:15] <iter> ashzilla: also, check out screen
[06:15] <iter> ashzilla: very very VERY useful program
[06:15] <Alzi2_> DBO, Too complicated.. can you help me add the line to fstab? Windows partition is /dev/hda1.
[06:15] <Amaranth> JaXxon: what do you mean by safe?
[06:16] <JaXxon> Amaranth: has it caused many broken systems?
[06:16] <DBO> Alzi2_, put your /etc/fstab in pastebin please
[06:16] <Amaranth> JaXxon: I don't think so
[06:16] <variant> lupine_85: why does this problem come about?
[06:16] <JaXxon> Amaranth: thx
[06:16] <ashzilla> iter: when I alt+f2 I see a new window but I cannot see any code when I type
[06:16] <Amaranth> Alzi2_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:16] <iter> ashzilla: you should see login prompt
[06:16] <Paddy_EIRE> would it be a real performance hog for me to use AIGLX, XGL/Compiz on an Athlonxp 1600 with 512 ram and an ati radeon 128 agp vid card
[06:16] <ashzilla> iter: there's nothing
[06:17] <variant> ashzilla: that is ctrl alt f2
[06:17] <variant> ashzilla: not just alt f2
[06:17] <DShepherd> Paddy_EIRE: jump over to #ubuntu-xgl
[06:17] <Alzi2_> DBO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28468/
[06:17] <Amaranth> variant: he isn't in X
[06:17] <ashzilla> variant: there's nothing for either
[06:17] <variant> Amaranth: ah ok
[06:17] <variant> ashzilla: try f3
[06:17] <Paddy_EIRE> DShepherd: thx man
[06:17] <lupine_85> variant: they are packages that have been installed as dependencies of a removed package
[06:17] <ashzilla> Amaranth: where is the login prompt
[06:17] <lupine_85> it's apt-get trying to be as smart as aptitude
[06:17] <variant> lupine_85: gnome-desktop...
[06:17] <ashzilla> variant: no, nothing
[06:17] <Hal9000> ok, i have an old (i emphasize, OLD) geforce 6600 video card... installed ubuntu 6.10 and can't set resolution higher than 1024x768. What do i need to do.
[06:18] <iter> 5.5B loss...
[06:18] <variant> Hal9000: install nvidia drivers unfortunatly
[06:18] <iter> ;)
[06:18] <Alzi2_> Amaranth: Weird.. cuz on Dapper it worked
[06:18] <bastiq> Amaranth: Thanks, it's working super now :)
[06:19] <tuskernini> EDGY... do i update the repositories (breezy to edgy) to upgrade distro?
[06:19] <Hal9000> variant: how is the package named
[06:19] <Flats> Ok I have a Fat32 formatted disk.  When I add it to fstab what should I use as a mount point?
[06:19] <iter> tuskernini: yes in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:19] <Agrajag> Flats: whatever you want, a mountpoint is any empty directory
[06:19] <Hal9000> nvidia-glx?
[06:19] <tuskernini> iter: just the same as hoary to dapper... ok thank you
[06:19] <DBO> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28470/  <--- like that Alzi2_ (except you know, change the mount point)
[06:19] <DesolationX> will wine work with ppc ?
[06:19] <DBO> Alzi2_, once you have that in place just sudo mount -a
[06:20] <Flats> do I need to create the directory as a super user?
[06:20] <Agrajag> Flats: not necessarily
[06:20] <RadiantFire> hey everyone, I'm having a weird thing with the deskbar applet, it won't show all of the firefox websearches for some reason, does anyone know whats up?
[06:20] <Flats> ok brb
[06:20] <DBO> Alzi2_, make sure the mount point exists before you try to mount it though
[06:20] <Agrajag> though if you want it to be under the usual /mnt or /media directories then you should
[06:20] <Alzi2_> thanks ^^
[06:20] <Agrajag> DesolationX: nope
[06:21] <DesolationX> >.<
[06:21] <Agrajag> DesolationX: Wine Is Not an Emulator, it won't make a PPC run x86 code.
[06:21] <sivik> Flats, you can make it whatever you want
[06:22] <sivik> Flats, and yes, you have to sudo mkdir where you want to mount it
[06:22] <Alzi2_> DBO: I did a mount -a but Nautilus still doesn't detect it
[06:22] <cyph1e> Hi, I'm having a Geforce 7900 GS. When I try to install the nvidia-glx drivers and reboot, I can't start X. It says it can't find screen. What shuld I do?
[06:22] <DesolationX> Agrajag: hmmm i am guessing then ragnarok online will not work with x86 code
[06:22] <ole> did recently installed 6.10
[06:22] <ole> works fine :)
[06:22] <tuskernini> iter: ok, upgrading to edgy, wish me luck... is there anything i should know before i do it?
[06:22] <DBO> Alzi2_, if you cd into the mount point does it show up?
[06:22] <ole> did a clean install.
[06:22] <sivik> cyph1e, you have to go into xorg.conf and change nv to nvidia
[06:22] <dvheumen> lupine_85: are you still available for a question about the route and NAT?
[06:22] <DBO> Alzi2_, cd in and do ls
[06:22] <cyph1e> sivik: I've already done that
[06:22] <Agrajag> DesolationX: whatever that is, if it's a windows program you won't get it to run on PPC
[06:23] <DesolationX> Agrajag: thanks
[06:23] <sivik> cyph1e, whats the error you get if you try to run startx from tty1
[06:23] <cyph1e> hmm I think it said it couldn't find screen, I booted to windows now, I can't view the error logs
[06:24] <tuskernini> anyone, is there something i should know before upgrading to edgy via sources.list
[06:24] <cyph1e> this is like my 10'th time trying to install the nvidia drivers getting that message
[06:24] <sivik> there might be a bug in them
[06:24] <sivik> !nvidia
[06:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:24] <cyph1e> That's the guide I used
[06:24] <thrice`> tuskernini, why not use the update-manager ?
[06:24] <cyph1e> and I've tried with 2 different graphics card (the other was geforce 6600 gt)
[06:25] <CarinArr> cyph1e, how did you install the drivesr
[06:25] <sivik> cyph1e, let me try and see if i can get my 6600 to work
[06:25] <cyph1e> using the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:25] <CarinArr> cyph1e, using apt or the nvidia installer
[06:25] <tuskernini> thrice`: update manager...
[06:25] <tuskernini> thrice`: so where do i get that... sorry
[06:25] <tuskernini> thrice`: i changed dapper to edgy but the freecontrib deb does not want tu update
[06:25] <thrice`> !update
[06:25] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:25] <variant> lupine_85: reinstalling them, will see if it works
[06:26] <cyph1e> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:26] <variant> lupine_85: thnx
[06:26] <cyph1e> that was the one I used
[06:26] <thrice`> tuskernini, ^^ follow that
[06:26] <CarinArr> cyph1e, and you didn't, at any stage, get drivers from the nvidia website?
[06:26] <sivik> cyph1e, thats the one i'm following, let me see if it works for me
[06:26] <cyph1e> I downloaded them using the Synaptic Package Manager
[06:27] <sivik> cyph1e, thats cool
[06:27] <cyph1e> and then I ran "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[06:27] <philn> hi, my iPod Nano is no longer automounted by gnome-volume-manager.. running Edgy here
[06:27] <CarinArr> cyph1e, okay, only asking because if you try to get the drivers from one place, then another, sometimes you get conflicts and nastyness
[06:27] <cyph1e> and after I rebooted, I couldnt load X
[06:27] <cyph1e> ok
[06:27] <chaoticg33k> I heard 6.10 is out
[06:27] <sivik> cyph1e, thats why i was hoping you knew what the error said
[06:27] <sivik> chaoticg33k, yes
[06:27] <Hal9000> ok, i installed the nvidia driver, it told me to restart x. i restarted x, it was FUCKED UP. so i disabled nvidia and tried to start x again, still FUCKED UP. so i restored the backup file manually and am here on a 21" screen with 1024x768 and wondering if i am actually a "human being"
[06:27] <Podex> I heard it too chaoticg33k
[06:28] <Podex> :P
[06:28] <DShepherd> Hal9000: please watch your language
[06:28] <sivik> Hal9000, try using the vesa drivers
[06:28] <BoomStYx> Its out hehe, running the 64-bit version of 6.10 right now, runs great
[06:28] <engla> chaoticg33k: yeah congratulations to you and everybody
[06:28] <tuskernini> thrice`: will do thanx
[06:28] <CarinArr> hal9000, what error message did you get?
[06:28] <axisys> apokryphos: yeh!! finally lighttpd removed after starting it .. as suggested by bug report
[06:28] <Hal9000> CarinArr: no screen found
[06:28] <sivik> BoomStYx, but does it run any of the plugins or wine?
[06:28] <foo> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Sources
[06:28] <foo> 99% [Waiting for headers] 
[06:28] <Amaranth> Hal9000: So X is working right now? What driver are you using?
[06:28] <apokryphos> axisys: cool
[06:28] <foo> gah. apt-get just hangs here.
[06:28] <foo> Any ideas
[06:28] <sivik> foo: its probably because so many ppl are using it
[06:28] <Amaranth> foo: servers are overloaded
[06:28] <Hal9000> Amaranth: i went back to the original config, no idea what driver its using... the out-of-the-box one
[06:29] <BoomStYx> sivik: I can get wine to run, and if I want to use plugins like flash I need to run 32-bit firefox, which can be done with 32-bit compatibility
[06:29] <Amaranth> Hal9000: Alright, what video card do you have?
[06:29] <Hal9000> DShepherd: sorry, i got anger management issues
[06:29] <Hal9000> Amaranth: GeForce 6600
[06:29] <sivik> BoomStYx, how hard is it to do that?
[06:29] <chaoticg33k> well I got the torrents and I"m downloading server and desktop
[06:29] <zmutte> hey, I got a kind of large problem, I made some tars (backup) before i formatted my debian installation (couple of years old) and installed ubuntu server, the problem now is when I try to untar i get this error: tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers, what could be the cause?
[06:29] <sivik> Hal9000, i'm testing a 6600 right now
[06:29] <foo> sivik / Amaranth: That's what I figured. But then I figured Mark would have taken care of that somehow, guess not.
[06:29] <zmutte> it works to untar them on a windows installation
[06:29] <EJ> Can ubuntu be used to run my rocket?
[06:29] <Amaranth> Hal9000: Open a terminal and run 'sudo nvidia-xconfig', see if that breaks things. Or is that what you already did?
[06:29] <chaoticg33k> be it could
[06:29] <variant> lupine_85: reinstalling them did not help
[06:30] <BoomStYx> sivik: Not too difficult, just need to apt-get the 32-bit compat libs, then download a 32-bit version of firefox, unpack it and go
[06:30] <BlueEagle> zmutte: the cause could be that you tar-ed them with a too old (and now obsolete) base-64 headers).
[06:30] <sivik> oh really, thats cool, what about wine
[06:30] <Hal9000> Amaranth: what i did is "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[06:30] <zmutte> BlueEagle okey, is there any solution?
[06:30] <sivik> BoomStYx, what about wine
[06:30] <Amaranth> Hal9000: try sudo nvidia-xconfig
[06:30] <Hal9000> ok
[06:30] <Hal9000> brb
[06:30] <BlueEagle> zmutte: I don't know. I'll read the tar man-page for you and see.
[06:31] <BoomStYx> sivik: I think wine has a howto on their site to run it in 64-bit, I don't use wine anymore really and haven't tried yet, I can see if I can find that howto really quick though
[06:31] <variant> zmutte: you could get some old linux live cd and try with that.. probably a more elegant solution i would thing
[06:31] <zmutte> BlueEagle alright, will check the file out
[06:31] <sergio> how can i see the documents in worl, excell in 3d on the desktop
[06:31] <sivik> BoomStYx, well, about the only thing i use wine for is PokerStars
[06:31] <zmutte> variant ok
[06:31] <variant> zmutte: the archives will definately be recoveralble
[06:31] <variant> zmutte: so don't assume otherwise
[06:31] <Amaranth> sergio: You want to look at Word documents in 3D?
[06:31] <zmutte> Yeah, I figured that. because the open in windows
[06:31] <sergio> yeah
[06:31] <foo> err, apt-get is crawling. What a pain.
[06:31] <Hal9000> Amaranth: ok i did, x starts up, but still i cant go more than 1024x768
[06:31] <foo> Google'd wouldn't have this problem if they had to solve it.
[06:32] <Amaranth> Hal9000: Alright, we're getting closer
[06:32] <foo> hehe
[06:32] <chaoticg33k> I hated wine, I could not get it to work at all. I was trying to use it with MS .net studio
[06:32] <Amaranth> !fixres | Hal9000
[06:32] <ubotu> Hal9000: x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:32] <swaj> I'm trying to install galaxium -- it has a lot of dependancies, but I was able to resolve most of them.  when I load up the client I get an exception that basically means I need to install libgtk2.0-dev.  The problem is that apt isn't allowing me to install this package.  See http://paste.uni.cc/11110 for the error from apt.  Help anyone?
[06:32] <chaoticg33k> I ended up just reinstalling windows to use it
[06:32] <fuffalo> i have a mythtv/ubuntu question, if anyone knows that would be swell!: i have a pvr-150 that came with a remote/irblaster (The irblaster plugs in to the usb little box that the remote talks to) - will this setup work in mythtv, or do i need a serial blaster
[06:32] <BoomStYx> sivik: Yeah, I found your howto, here you go http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185557 it doesn't look like too big of a hassle
[06:32] <Hal9000> Amaranth: thanks, ill follow that
[06:32] <laimis> ola
[06:32] <Amaranth> foo: Google has tens of thousands of server spread across the world with a massive amount of bandwidth
[06:33] <sergio> is the xgl that i need to use?
[06:33] <rancho> hgchchmb g
[06:33] <Amaranth> foo: we have a couple servers running the main archive and a bunch of volunteer mirrors
[06:33] <Amaranth> foo: try switching to another mirror
[06:33] <laimis> i from spain
[06:33] <Amaranth> sergio: Please join #ubuntu-xgl
[06:33] <foo> Amaranth: ok, where is a mirror list?
[06:33] <laimis> in the front
[06:33] <Amaranth> foo: what country are you in?
[06:33] <sergio> #ubuntu -xgl
[06:33] <foo> Amaranth: USA, California
[06:34] <Amaranth> foo: wait, it's failing on the security ones?
[06:34] <Whatsisname> google also has a few billion dollars at their disposa
[06:34] <Amaranth> foo: there are no mirrors for those
[06:34] <Podex> l
[06:34] <BoomStYx> sivik: I saw you got popped out, heres the howto if you missed it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185557 , my only complaint I have about the 64-bit version right now is that the usplash doesn't appear in color hehe, but its not a big deal at all, its black and white though
[06:34] <DBO> Whatsisname, offtopic banter to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:34] <FunnyLookinHat> is it just me or are all the mirrors dying?
[06:34] <FunnyLookinHat> (for edgy)
[06:34] <swaj> Can anybody help me?  I need to install libgtk2.0-dev, but apt-get install is failing with this error -> http://paste.uni.cc/11110
[06:34] <jbroome> i can't imagine why
[06:34] <Adriano> is /etc/inittab supposed to exist on edgy? How do I remove e.g. tty6 ?
[06:34] <FunnyLookinHat> >_<
[06:34] <laimis> algien me escuxa???
[06:34] <sivik_> i didn't have any problems getting the nvidia drivers to work on my 6600, make sure you changed the nv to nvidia in your xorg.conf
[06:34] <DBO> FunnyLookinHat, happens every release
[06:34] <chaoticg33k> thats why I torrent the isos
[06:34] <Amaranth> foo: otherwise, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:34] <cyphase> woohoo!!
[06:35] <laimis> wat is your name????
[06:35] <sivik_> BoomStYx, yeah, i had to change computers so i could install my nvidia drivers
[06:35] <InnerF|RE> ----
[06:35] <sergio> on the terminal
[06:35] <FunnyLookinHat> I wish I could at least download the torrent, it's taking FOREVER    : )
[06:35] <Adriano> laimis: you're wasting your time here,  I think
[06:35] <chaoticg33k> I've got the torrents now
[06:35] <foo> Amaranth: Failing on an apt-get upgrade now
[06:35] <sivik_> you ppl are inpatient
[06:35] <chaoticg33k> I could DCC them to ya
[06:35] <Crippy-Boy> Wow, edgy is pretty nice :-)
[06:36] <laimis> why????
[06:36] <chaoticg33k> I think, I don't know if my school blocks certian things
[06:36] <Amaranth> Quick, everyone using edgy, check out the new version of alacarte. :)
[06:36] <laimis> my name is leimi
[06:36] <CarinArr> i haven't even noticed a difference yet apart from the boot sequence
[06:36] <sivik_> wtf is alacarte
[06:36] <swaj> Can anybody recommend a nice-looking messenger client for Gnome?  I do not like GAIM at all.
[06:36] <CarinArr> and well the login screen
[06:36] <Amaranth> sivik_: menu editor
[06:36] <BoomStYx> Crippy-Boy: Yeah its great, the repositories seem pretty bogged down right now though hehe, but thats expected since today is release day
[06:36] <DBO> Ademan, /etc/default/console-setup
[06:36] <Amaranth> sivik_: you don't have to check it out, i'm just being funny
[06:36] <laimis> where are you from??
[06:36] <kads> swaj amsn
[06:36] <transgress_> hey i can't get dvd's to play even after following the wiki restricted formats instructions
[06:37] <kads> swaj: but thats only for msn
[06:37] <Amaranth> laimis: Do you need help with Ubuntu?
[06:37] <Crippy-Boy> BoomStYx, Aye, and it means i have to do some reading :( need to read up on the new init thingy (upstart?)
[06:37] <transgress_> totem still complains it's missing... do i need to install something else with it?
[06:37] <Adriano> DBO, it was me, but thanks
[06:37] <sergio> yes
[06:37] <laimis> yes
[06:37] <swaj> kads:  last time I tried amsn, the fonts looked horrible
[06:37] <kads> swaj: get mttsfonts
[06:37] <transgress_> isn't there an extra codecs package or something for totem?
[06:37] <DBO> Adriano, i was close
[06:37] <laimis> you are from england
[06:38] <kads> transgress_: download mplayer
[06:38] <Amaranth> laimis: No, USA. What problems are you having with Ubuntu?
[06:38] <silox> Now I have really sqruid up my system totally, i typed "apt-get remove alsa" because i wanted to reinstall it but then it started to uninstall like everything of ubuntu-desktop so i quited the terminal but everything seemed to work, but not my USB Audiocard! I have reinstalled alsa-oss and alsa package but that didnt help.. Please HELP me :P
[06:38] <SupremacyGnu> Hey, when trying to update to Edgy from Dapper I get the following error: Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg temporary error when trying to get "packages.freecontrib.org"
[06:38] <sergio> i don know how can i use my linux in my intranet with windows
[06:38] <laimis> i from lithuain
[06:38] <transgress_> kads: don't want mplayer.  i want things to work properly
[06:38] <laimis> LT
[06:38] <Amaranth> silox: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-standard ubuntu-minimal
[06:38] <laimis> your name is
[06:38] <transgress_> maybe it's a xine extra codecs package?
[06:38] <webben> sergio: You'll need Samba.
[06:38] <swaj> is there a way to update to "Edgy" without downloading the CD?  can't apt do an upgrade?
[06:38] <webben> sergio: It's a bit of a pain to configure though.
[06:39] <sergio> ok. after that how can i configure
[06:39] <sivik_> BoomStYx, thanks
[06:39] <Amaranth> swaj: gksudo "update-manager -c"
[06:39] <sergio> thanks any way. I thought was easy
[06:39] <Amaranth> nashnash: Turn that off.
[06:39] <Drac|Radio> I changed my hostname via "sudo hostname" and broke sudo. What can I do to fix it?
[06:39] <jrib> transgress_: did you install libdvdcss?
[06:39] <sivik_> BoomStYx, i will look at it later, can i just install that kernel to test without reloading the whole system
[06:39] <silox> Amaranth everything seems to be installed
[06:39] <Amaranth> silox: odd
[06:39] <laimis> are you understand me??
[06:39] <nashnash> im sorry amaranth
[06:39] <Crippy-Boy> swaj yeah, i believe you change to the egy repo's and dist-upgrade
[06:39] <BlueEagle> zmutte: It seems that the documentation for tar is incomplete when it comes to header format error (it's in: info tar)
[06:39] <nashnash> it was auto
[06:39] <C-O-L-T> 3d desktop effects included in edgy?
[06:39] <sivik_> swaj: yes
[06:39] <Adriano> laimis, if you didn't notice, this is a busy help channel to help ubuntu users, please ask your questions, don't stall or nobody'll give you attention
[06:39] <nolimitsoya> Drac|Radio, boot singe user mode, and edit the sudoers file
[06:39] <BlueEagle> zmutte: I'd suggest you google it.
[06:39] <webben> sergio: Have a look on the forums for "samba" and "windows". ... and at the samba manual (www.samba.org)
[06:40] <silox> :/
[06:40] <anders9034> how do i restart a service with xinetd?
[06:40] <Crippy-Boy> swaj, ya might wanna wait a while though, The repo's are a bit slow
[06:40] <jrib> ubotu: tell transgress_ about dvd
[06:40] <Drac|Radio> nolimitsoya: Gotcha. How do I boot in single users mode? What's the grub line?
[06:40] <Guilo> hi all
[06:40] <anders9034> i want to do service httpd restart with xinetd
[06:40] <gandolfthewizard> how do i install the flash plug in
[06:40] <laimis> adriano: i no speak good english
[06:40] <crochat_> Hello ! Is Grub capable to boot with UUID ?
[06:40] <Guilo> i've got a PSX->PC USB joypad and don't know how to use it with linux
[06:40] <nolimitsoya> Drac|Radio, in edgy, its called single user mode. perhaps recovery, or something, in dapper?
[06:40] <Drac|Radio> nolimitsoya: Ah! Right.
[06:40] <laimis> Amaranth: your are girl??
[06:40] <sivik_> gandolfthewizard, use the plugin from aptitude/apt-get
[06:41] <jrib> !es | laimis
[06:41] <Amaranth> laimis: Nope.
[06:41] <ubotu> laimis: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:41] <Guilo> which module do i need to load ?
[06:41] <Drac|Radio> nolimitsoya: Thanks a lot.
[06:41] <silox> I get this error message when i try to test the sound "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink:" cant open....
[06:41] <BlueEagle> anders9034: A: you can restart your inetd or B) you can use apachectl
[06:41] <swaj> I might just snag the CD image and do it tonight then -- I only installed 6.06.1 last night
[06:41] <Bergcube> A good friend just called me, angst in his voice. From somewhere in the filestructure on his server there is no a logical link pointing to root.  ( / that is, to be sure. )  This makes linux loop and suck 99.9% CPU constantly.  I must admit I have NOT tried at RTFM; I am hoping asking here will be faster.  And that would be good as his server is a production machine.  Any advice?
[06:41] <abhinay> how to replace Xorg-air with the Xorg ?
[06:41] <Amaranth> laimis: If you don't need help with Ubuntu please go elsewhere. We're really busy right now.
[06:41] <C-O-L-T> 3d dekstop effects in edgy?
[06:41] <Adriano> laimis: I don't think anyone speaks lithuanian here, or are interested in advances
[06:41] <YoussefAssad> hi there
[06:41] <Amaranth> Bergcube: backup everything, run fsck on it from a livecd
[06:41] <anders9034> BlueEagle: ok, is there some command to see which servics xinetd is running?
[06:41] <gandolfthewizard> say what
[06:41] <laimis> Adriano: i can write english
[06:42] <silox> C-O-L-T Beryl
[06:42] <YoussefAssad> does anyone else have issues getting aterm or rxvt to to shading for transparency in edgy?
[06:42] <Amaranth> laimis: If you do need help with Ubuntu just ask your question and see if someone answers.
[06:42] <C-O-L-T> silox: so is there any 3d thing in edgy included?
[06:42] <Adriano> gandolfthewizard: check http://ubuntuguide.org , the answe's there
[06:42] <laimis> Adriano: but i no speak good
[06:42] <gilnim> please give me a torrent link for edgy eft
[06:42] <nolimitsoya> Bergcube, why not just sudo rm -rf it?
[06:42] <laimis> Adriano:OK
[06:42] <gandolfthewizard> k ty
[06:42] <Bergcube> Amaranth~  Will fsck find and remove the bogus ln on it's own then?  That would be good.  (I am 6 hours away from the thing but he will be able to do it himself.)
[06:42] <Amaranth> C-O-L-T: No but that's a spec for Ubuntu 7.04
[06:42] <silox> C-O-L-T no you have to install it after..
[06:42] <Amaranth> C-O-L-T: So maybe in the next version
[06:43] <Bergcube> nolimitsoya~  He does not know where "the other end" is....
[06:43] <C-O-L-T> Amaranth: I see
[06:43] <C-O-L-T> silox: thanks
[06:43] <laimis> Adriano: can you speak spanish???
[06:43] <nolimitsoya> Bergcube, ok. as Amaranth said, fsck should take care of filesystem strangeness
[06:43] <Mirv> I've now two machines that seem to be stalled when upgrading with the update-manager. has anyone else the same problem?
[06:43] <Amaranth> Bergcube: Make a full backup before you run fsck
[06:44] <nolimitsoya> Mirv, could be becouse of high server load...
[06:44] <Mirv> all packages downloaded, both are stalled in doing something. the first is setting up libpam0g (but in truth completely idle)
[06:44] <Mirv> nolimitsoya: download went ok, it's in the package installation phase
[06:44] <Bergcube> Thanks, good people!  I will /away and phone him right away.  Goody.
[06:44] <Mirv> and the other has last line "removing libtasn1-2-dev", also machine is actually completely idle
[06:45] <shablab> mmg from mkvtoolnix-gui crashes for me. is it a known problem?
[06:45] <Amaranth> Mirv: Odd
[06:45] <Amaranth> Mirv: I haven't seen that
[06:45] <laimis> Mirv: you are from USA????
[06:45] <Drac|Radio> Who was it that just told me to edit /etc/sudoers to fix my hostname problem?
[06:45] <silox> C-O-L-T yw here is a guide http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy btw
[06:45] <Mirv> Amaranth: yeah, the other is amd64 machine and other is i386. this has to happen to someone else, I would guess..
[06:45] <C-O-L-T> Amaranth: I am disturbing you just for a sec :D. I am upgrading right now from dapper to edgy, my programs will remain right? so my installed programs on dapper
[06:45] <laimis> Antonio: jojojo
[06:46] <Mirv> I'll see if I wait an hour or so before going fully aptitude :)
[06:46] <Amaranth> C-O-L-T: yeah
[06:46] <jrib> Drac|Radio: just rebooting will fix your problem, changing the hostname with the 'hostname' command isn't permanenet I believe.  To change your hostname you want to edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts, no need to touch /etc/sudoers
[06:46] <C-O-L-T> Amaranth: okay than :d but will delete all my dapper drake?
[06:46] <laimis> Adriano: you are from USA???
[06:46] <Drac|Radio> jrib: I changed /etc/hostname. I didn't change /etc/hosts.
[06:46] <C-O-L-T> silox: thanks for the info
[06:46] <nalioth> C-O-L-T: nothing is being "deleted", you are upgrading all your programs
[06:46] <jrib> Drac|Radio: ok, that's what you want to fix then
[06:46] <Amaranth> C-O-L-T: It'll upgrade things. All your programs should still be installed and all your settings will be there.
[06:47] <Drac|Radio> jrib: Alright. I'll come back to you if it doesn't work.
[06:47] <C-O-L-T> Amaranth: but then why needs to download 680 mb of updateS?
[06:47] <nalioth> C-O-L-T: to upgrade ALL of your programs
[06:47] <silox> I get this error message when I try to test my soundcard in Audio settings: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Cant open.... Whats whrong, my audiocard worked youst perfactly a while ago :/
[06:47] <C-O-L-T> nalioth: I see thanks
[06:48] <Amaranth> silox: what kind of sound card is that?
[06:48] <cyphase> wow
[06:48] <cyphase> fast
[06:48] <silox> Amaranth C-Media USB Headphone Set
[06:48] <Amaranth> silox: the intel 82801G in my laptop does that sometimes too
[06:48] <Amaranth> silox: i have to unload the kernel driver and reload it to fix
[06:49] <Amaranth> silox: (or just reboot)
[06:49] <Adriano> mmkay, after a few trimmings ubuntu leaves me with a working desktop in 77 seconds
[06:49] <silox> Amaranth okay reboot doesnt work for me :/
[06:49] <cyphase> anyone else having problems updating your package list?
[06:49] <transgress_> okay now i'm extra confused
[06:49] <Adriano> (autologin, removed avahi and other niceties)
[06:49] <Adriano> how's it for you?
[06:49] <Amaranth> !sound | silox
[06:49] <transgress_> why would xine work for playing dvd's but totem-xine won't
[06:49] <ubotu> silox: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:49] <Amaranth> silox: perhaps that'll help
[06:49] <laimis> all people: good by
[06:50] <shark> all people: hi!!!
[06:50] <chaoticg33k> hi
[06:50] <silox> ubotu yes alsa is selected but not functional
 were are you from??
[06:51] <chaoticg33k> no where really
[06:51] <Adriano> shark, this is a help channel, sorry
[06:51] <Adriano> please ask ontopic questions
[06:51] <silox> "sound
[06:51] <shark> Adriano:ok
[06:51] <silox> !sound
[06:51] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:51] <Adriano> (sorry, mods, if I step on your toes)
[06:51] <Flats> I have a directory of /home/frank/win when I chmod /home/frank I can make it 7777  the /win is actually my second hard drive mount point.  I cant chmod that folder however.  I get operation not permited
[06:52] <transgress_> Flats: why did you chmod frank to 777?  that's  ahorrid idea
[06:52] <shark> Adriano: my problem is the USB connect
[06:52] <jrib> Flats: you can only chmod if you own the directory
[06:52] <thrice`> Flats, that's not a good idea.  man umask
[06:52] <Adriano> shark: exactly what about USB?
[06:52] <Drac|Radio> Thanks to the one who helped me with the /etc/hosts issue.
[06:53] <jrib> Drac|Radio: np
[06:53] <Drac|Radio> I have a new question: What tools do I need to change the bootsplash logo?
[06:53] <Flats> Well I need /win to be writable via FTP.  I can FTP files to the home/frank directory but not the win directory where is where I want to.  Also, this Linux box is not accessible from the outside
[06:53] <dabaR__> !usplash
[06:53] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[06:53] <impeto> hi to all: I'm looking some way to calculate a NIC traffic on Ubuntu Dapper 6.06LT... someone can help me?
[06:53] <transgress_> Flats: is that a windows mount from the other harddrive?
[06:53] <marx71> two more minutes and i am gonna be done with edgy!!! ooo..la..laa....
[06:54] <shark> Adriano: i don`t connect this at my PC
[06:54] <Flats> No it's actually just a fat32 formatted hard drive that I installed using /home/flats/win as the mount point
[06:54] <Amaranth> impeto: details?
[06:54] <Adriano> don't or can't? and what's "this"?
[06:54] <sledge_at_work> impeto: cat /proc/net/dev :P
[06:54] <Flats> Should I make a different mount point?
[06:55] <transgress_> nah that can work
[06:55] <impeto> Amaranth I need only how many mbits are used at this moment :D
[06:55] <transgress_> however, ls -l to see who owns it
[06:55] <Flats> ahh root owns it
[06:55] <chaoticg33k> you could create a group that has access to the ~/win and mount it to a diffrent point, like /media/win and have the group with read/write access and put yourself in that group
[06:55] <Flats> I need frank to own it
 were are you from??
[06:55] <Amaranth> impeto: Oh, I only know how to find out how much has been downloaded/uploaded
[06:56] <Amaranth> shark: US
[06:56] <iter> if I use the 'Places' menu to connect to a smb share, which then appears on the desktop and persists through reboots, where exactly in the file system does it get mounted
[06:56] <Amaranth> iter: it doesn't
 a thanks
[06:56] <Amaranth> iter: only programs that use gnome-vfs can use it
[06:56] <impeto> no I need only how many packets trastits on a specific NIC
[06:56] <Flats> Is there a default password for the root user?  I dont remember the install asking me for one
[06:56] <iter> so no terminal then ?
[06:56] <Amaranth> iter: nope
[06:56] <iter> great thx
[06:56] <Amaranth> iter: you need the FUSE smbfs thing for that
[06:56] <chaoticg33k> there is no root password, you need to use your password
[06:56] <marx71> Amaranth: i had the same doubt as iter...but it does show a location...
[06:56] <Adriano> Flats: it's your user's password
[06:57] <thee> Flats: the password for the user you created during installation is the default root pwd
[06:57] <shark> find: hi
[06:57] <JaZyWRK> hello all,
[06:57] <Amaranth> marx71: the location is something like 'smb://192.168.1.13/path/to/something'
[06:57] <lupine_85> thee: no it isn't
[06:57] <lupine_85> try logging in as root with it - it'll fail
[06:57] <Amaranth> marx71: which only gnome-vfs using apps know what to do with
[06:58] <marx71> amaranth: oh...also...on my machine..doing such a thing is quite slow..smbclient works much faster
[06:58] <EJ> Can ubuntu be used to run my rocket?
[06:58] <anders9034> does someone know which package contains apachectl ?
[06:58] <find> all people: i from UK and i feed friends
[06:58] <thee> lupine_85: the default sudo pwd will be more correct stament
[06:58] <lupine_85> EJ: yes
[06:58] <cyph1e> Hi, I have a GeForce 7900 GS, and after I install the drivers, I can't start X after reboot. This is the error log: http://pastebin.ca/222911
[06:58] <apokryphos> !uk
[06:58] <ubotu> Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[06:58] <chaoticg33k> yes ej
[06:58] <pazeropdqsf> hi
[06:58] <pazeropdqsf> i keep reading that automatix and such are bad programs cause of the way they work
[06:58] <Amaranth> marx71: I've heard that, it's fine for me though
[06:58] <EJ> lupine_85, how?
[06:58] <lupine_85> thee: no, that's wrong too ;). sudo doesn't have passwords - user accounts have passwords
[06:58] <Amaranth> marx71: don't know why it's slow for some people
[06:59] <apokryphos> pazeropdqsf: /msg ubotu automatix
[06:59] <pazeropdqsf> does anyone have a "good" alternative? cause i dont really enjoy the prospect of spending hours upon hours trying to figure it out myself
[06:59] <marx71> amaranth: how do i speed up mounting of samba shares..it takes ages when i say "mount -a"
[06:59] <lupine_85> EJ: first make sure it's not a saturn V
[06:59] <Amaranth> ack, no
[06:59] <apokryphos> pazeropdqsf: easyubuntu isn't bad, but the best way is really to use the FAQ.
[06:59] <^Spear> http://www.gnome-dock.org/trac
[06:59] <impeto> sledge_at_work: thanks it'all that I need ;)
[06:59] <find> lupine_85: can you my friend??
[06:59] <Flats> wow dont know my root password.  I'm screwed aren't I
[06:59] <thee> lupine_85: then what is the root pwd?
[06:59] <^Spear> does anyone know any good docks similar to http://www.gnome-dock.org/trac
[06:59] <jcooke> anders9034, I think the ubuntu apachectl has a different name or something
[06:59] <lupine_85> there isn't one by default
[06:59] <^Spear> ?
[06:59] <Amaranth> PriceChild: You can't use cgi-irc in here.
[06:59] <impeto> guys in which way can I upgrade my 6.06 to 6.10?
[06:59] <pazeropdqsf> apokryphos: but i want to change quite a few small things, it would take a LONG time to do it by myself (moreover cause im largely a noob at linux)
[06:59] <thee> ^Spear: kiba dock
[07:00] <anders9034> jcooke: hm i see
[07:00] <find> Spear: were are you????
[07:00] <lupine_85> sudo passwd will work to set one, however, it's not "the ubuntu way"
[07:00] <apokryphos> pazeropdqsf: which is why there's a nice and friendly FAQ
[07:00] <^Spear> im from the uk.
[07:00] <^Spear> ?
[07:00] <find> spear:were are you from??
[07:00] <pazeropdqsf> apokryphos: ill have a look, u got a url?
[07:00] <jcooke> anders9034, apache2ctl maybe
[07:00] <^Spear> I'm from the UK, Salisbury
[07:00] <anders9034> ok i'll t ry it
[07:00] <apokryphos> pazeropdqsf: channel topic
[07:00] <pazeropdqsf> o right, i always forget to check that in gaim :D
[07:00] <MFen> anyone have a torrent link? the mirrors are all getting hammered
[07:00] <JuhazOne> just came here when someone mentioned on another channel that there's a flood of users here
[07:01] <marx71> i updated using update-manager....almost done.
[07:01] <anders9034> jcooke: no :-(
[07:01] <find> Spear: can you speak spanish???
[07:01] <^Spear> kiba dock is not in the edgy repos?
[07:01] <MFen> marx71: the apt mirrors are all getting hammered too. i've given up on upgrading with apt
[07:01] <^Spear> No. But I can speak french :)
[07:01] <abonilla> is it me or the edgy universe mirror is dead?
[07:01] <^Spear> ping it ;p
[07:01] <MFen> abonilla: us.archive.ubuntu.com is pretty destroyed
[07:01] <anders9034> does anyone know the name of the package that has apachectl?
[07:01] <thee> ^Spear: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268645
[07:01] <MFen> abonilla: other country mirrors are usable, but really slow
[07:01] <jcooke> anders9034, it may just not be in your path? have you tried searching for apache*ctl?
[07:01] <lupine_85> then destroy canada was well ;)
[07:01] <kitche> !apacheutils
[07:01] <apokryphos> anders9034: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apacheutils - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <liwi> whre is the torrent for 6.10?
[07:02] <shark> Spear: tou can speak spanish!!!!
[07:02] <apokryphos> liwi: on the download page.
[07:02] <marx71> removing obsolete software...
[07:02] <Flats> su root is still supposed to work right so if I don't know the password, I can't login as root
[07:02] <graveson> does anyone know where i can an ubuntu package for the latest version of gtkpod - the gtkpod website has a debian link ,can i use this ?
[07:02] <abonilla> MFen: wow! having ubuntu is a great fashion then! Maybe canonical muight want to buy some moe clusters. :)
[07:02] <^Spear> I DONT SPEAK SPANISH!
[07:02] <^Spear> ;p
[07:02] <^Spear> English / french
[07:02] <Blacken> Has anyone found a way to enable DRI using the ATI binaries yet?
[07:02] <crzygrndpa> My 6.10 server (i386) installtion locks up when it is installing/configuring for a LAMP server. It freezes at 85%: 'Installed php5-mysqli'   any idea how I can address this?
[07:02] <jenda> !es
[07:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:02] <find> graveson: good by
[07:02] <apokryphos> ^Spear: no caps please :)
[07:02] <lupine_85> Flats: su root isn't supposed to work by defaut
[07:02] <^Spear> I was shouting...
[07:02] <marx71> goodbye...i have to restart to get edgy to work...
[07:02] <lupine_85> ... because the root password is disabled by default...
[07:02] <dabaR__> haha
[07:03] <Flats> but I made the win directory bu using sudo mkdir
[07:03] <apokryphos> ^Spear: and there's no need to shout 8)
[07:03] <liwi> apokryphos		- donn`t see it
[07:03] <lupine_85> yep
[07:03] <shark> hi
[07:03] <shark> hi
[07:03] <Flats> but it says owned by root
[07:03] <apokryphos> !torrents
[07:03] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[07:03] <apokryphos> hi shark
[07:03] <^Spear> There is a need to shout if no one listens...
[07:03] <Rubin> crzygrndpa, the server locking up during normal operations like that usually indicates a hardware problem (or kernel<->hardware incompatability)
[07:03] <graveson> find: good by
[07:03] <Amaranth> Flats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:03] <liwi> whre is the torrent for 6.10?
[07:03] <^Spear> I said 4 times that I dont speak spanish :/
[07:03] <apokryphos> ^Spear: no, that's not true; not in here.
[07:03] <abonilla> Does the CD image has an option to upgrade?
[07:03] <lupine_85> sudo is a setuid program
[07:03] <Flats> and if I try to chmod or chown using sudo, It says operation not allowed
[07:03] <graveson> find: good by ? - i do not understand
[07:03] <kitche> Flats: sudo mkdir makes a directory that is owned by root
[07:03] <apokryphos> liwi: check the link ubotu posted above.
[07:03] <crzygrndpa> Rubin: how do I troubleshoot that? Is there a log that is generated?
[07:03] <abonilla> Can I upgrade dapper to Edgy using the CD?
[07:03] <apokryphos> abonilla: sure
[07:03] <shark> apokryphos: were are you from??
[07:04] <lupine_85> !root > Flats
[07:04] <crzygrndpa> Rubin: and this is on a IBM ThinkCentre desktop computer... pretty standard hardware
[07:04] <dabaR__> liwi: for Ubuntu desktop cd?
[07:04] <apokryphos> shark: London
[07:04] <Rubin> crzygrndpa, you can look in /var/log/messages etc. if you have access to the console you may get a clue there
[07:04] <shark> apokryphos: good by
[07:04] <yoooooooo> excuse me, i don't speak english, who speak spanish here?
[07:04] <abonilla> apokryphos: so, mount it, add it to the sources remove the rest, update and dist-upgrade? is this supported?
[07:04] <Amaranth> abonilla: Only if it's the alternative CD
[07:04] <liwi> dabaR__ yes
[07:04] <Amaranth> abonilla: the desktop cd can only do new installs
[07:04] <dabaR__> yoooooooo: /j #ubuntu-es
[07:04] <Mirv> I now filed https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/68421 on hanging of update-manager to "too many values to unpack" (according to /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log)
[07:04] <Rubin> crzygrndpa, i'd try swapping memory slots around, make sure fans are all working, etc etc
[07:04] <abonilla> Amaranth: ? crap
[07:04] <apokryphos> abonilla: yes, but make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed
[07:04] <chaoticg33k> who is having trouble with the torrent download?
[07:04] <abonilla> apokryphos: dapper is instaleld already
[07:05] <liwi> whre is the torrent for 6.10? give me a link to a torrent, thanks
[07:05] <crzygrndpa> Rubin: I'll give it a shot... I'm pretty certain everything in the computer is fine but we'll seee
[07:05] <Rubin> crzygrndpa, by lock up, you mean tho whole system becomes unresponsive right? not just the install process?
[07:05] <crzygrndpa> thanks
[07:05] <apokryphos> abonilla: but ubuntu-desktop might not be, so you have to make sure you install it.
[07:05] <swamytk> Edgy is really Edgy and best so far
[07:05] <apokryphos> liwi: what is so hard about checking the link I gave you?
[07:05] <apokryphos> !torrents
[07:05] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[07:05] <Draconicus> !usplash
[07:05] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[07:05] <crzygrndpa> Rubin: no, if I ctrl-alt-del the terminal will shutdown and restard the computer
[07:05] <MFen> i'm looking forward to upstart
[07:05] <liwi>  apokryphos there is no torrent there
[07:05] <jcooke> Anyone using a broadcom 4318 (particularly on a Pavilion dv8000 series notebook) on Edgy successfully?
[07:05] <Rubin> crzygrndpa, what about alt-f2?
[07:05] <dabaR__> liwi: here apokryphos you go to the page and tell me why it is hard for him to find it, I am sure you will be able to see quickly.
[07:05] <crzygrndpa> Rubin: it is almost as if the installation just pauses at 85%
[07:05] <MFen> chaoticg33k: i'm having trouble finding it
[07:05] <Rubin> or ctrl-c?
[07:05] <abonilla> apokryphos: i'll do the lame normal install, this is my work PC. ;-) I hope evolution-exchange works as good with 2.8 like does with 2.6.1
[07:06] <pazeropdqsf> does the FAQ also work for 6.10 ? :|
[07:06] <Blacken> Has anyone else been having problems with the install ISOs?
[07:06] <crzygrndpa> rubin: let me try those... brb (server is in anohter room)
[07:06] <Amaranth> Blacken: What problems?
[07:06] <Blacken> X doesn't boot on the one I've tried.
[07:06] <liwi> dabaR__ i select the my closest region but there is no torrent
[07:06] <Rubin> crzygrndpa, if its downloading at 85%, its probably just that the mirrors are overloaded today
[07:06] <Amaranth> Blacken: Try booting in safe graphics mode
[07:06] <liwi> dabaR__ in US there is also no torrent
[07:06] <Blacken> It does the same thing my Edgy install did before I sudo dpkg-reconfigure'd.
[07:06] <Blue42> upgrading via upgrade manager right now, will mention how it goes
[07:06] <Blacken> Amaranth: It kicks to a root console, I tried that.
[07:06] <dabaR__> liwi: one sec, I can see why it is hard for you to find it...
[07:06] <Amaranth> Blacken: So in the root console run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg :)
[07:06] <bur[n] er> !torrent
[07:06] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[07:06] <PriceChild> hello all
[07:07] <Blacken> Amaranth: I did.
[07:07] <Amaranth> PriceChild: Hey, feel free to jump right in
[07:07] <dvheumen> I've got a network + routing + NAT related question, anyone care to help?
[07:07] <apokryphos> !torrents
[07:07] <ubotu> torrents is <reply Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Edgy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[07:07] <apokryphos> there
[07:07] <PriceChild> dvheumen i'll have a go
[07:07] <apokryphos> ack
[07:07] <Blacken> Amaranth: Problem is, we've got at least one newbie on #kubuntu who's having trouble with it.
[07:07] <abonilla> Anyone here using evolution-exchange on edgy?
[07:07] <bur[n] er> thanks apokryphos :)
[07:07] <sledge_at_work> Is there a package to set up a ubuntu-mirror? I want my colleagues on my network to use my server as a pkg repository mirror.
[07:07] <dabaR__> liwi: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[07:07] <apokryphos> !no torrents is <reply> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Edgy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[07:07] <ubotu> I'll remember that, apokryphos
[07:07] <crzygrndpa> Rubin: nevermind... the installtion finished. It's strange because it really did sit at 85% for about 10 minutes... but it must have finished up since I left the computer. Oh well, as long as the installation finished. :)
[07:07] <Amaranth> Blacken: hrm
[07:07] <kmaynard> !repository
[07:07] <pazeropdqsf> apokryphos:  i know this is infinatly sad, but im stuck at the first step to nvidia driver install
[07:07] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:08] <Rubin> crzygrndpa, yay :)
[07:08] <Amaranth> Blacken: Don't know what to tell you
[07:08] <dvheumen> PriceChild: k, I've got 2 subnets, routed correctly in the ADSL modem, I can ping and have web access to it. But when I ping for an internet IP I don't get a reaction
[07:08] <RockClimber> does EE have the glibc with precomputed hash thingy that fedora has
[07:08] <dabaR__> apokryphos: good.
[07:08] <apokryphos> pazeropdqsf: what's the problem?
[07:08] <Blacken> apokryphos: Suggested comment -- !edgyiso --
[07:08] <liwi> dabaR__ thanks
[07:08] <pazeropdqsf> apokryphos: In the package manager, select the Settings menu, then Repositories.   In the Software Preferences dialog that comes up, click the Add button <- there is only one add button and it is to add a resource
[07:08] <Amaranth> dvheumen: do you have the gateway set on your computer?
[07:08] <MasseR> Grr this is beginning to be annoiyng. Just noticed my eth0 is quite unstable atm. Lasts only a while and afterwards it just won't send/receive or anything
[07:08] <PriceChild> dvheumen you'll need to set up your router to assign public ips instead of private ips
[07:08] <Amaranth> dvheumen: it's be something like 'gateway <router ip>' in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:08] <apokryphos> pazeropdqsf: I don't use synaptic I'm afraid, perhaps another synaptic user in here can help.
[07:08] <Blacken> apokryphos: "To use the Edgy ISOs until they are repaired, boot the CD in safe mode and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then startx"
[07:08] <bur[n] er> all right, enough of this bot stuff... that link from apokryphos is slowwwwwwwwwwww the .iso downloads are slooooowwwwwwww, anyone have the desktop cd i386 torrent link?
[07:09] <pazeropdqsf> apokryphos: the guide is also applicable for 6.10 right?
[07:09] <apokryphos> Blacken: what? I haven't heard/experienced such a problem.
[07:09] <Amaranth> pazeropdqsf: What's the problem?
[07:09] <kmaynard> !repository > sledge_at_work
[07:09] <Amaranth> bur[n] er: hang on
[07:09] <Blacken> apokryphos: I just had it happen, a newbie did on #kubuntu.
[07:09] <sledge_at_work> !repository
[07:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:09] <apokryphos> pazeropdqsf: right, you'll just have to replace all occurences of dapper with edgy
[07:09] <pazeropdqsf> Amaranth: In the package manager, select the Settings menu, then Repositories.   In the Software Preferences dialog that comes up, click the Add button <-- there is only one add button and its to add resources (im trying to install nvidia drivers)
[07:09] <Blacken> apokryphos: I heard earlier reports of it too.
[07:09] <sledge_at_work> kmaynard: thanks
[07:09] <kmaynard> np
[07:09] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: use a mirror
[07:09] <dvheumen> PriceChild, Amaranth: just pinging to the modem works, pinging to the outside doesn't work. It's this schema: 10.0.1.0/24 <--> 10.0.0.0/24 <--> ADSL modem <--> Internet
[07:09] <dvheumen> so pinging from 10.0.1.2 works, gets routed correctly to 10.0.0.2, and returns
[07:09] <bur[n] er> apokryphos: i really just want the torrent... i've been searchign for awhile to find slow slow  pages
[07:10] <MasseR> After trying to scp (a relatively alrge file) from my desktop through lan to my desktop, it only copes for a second or two, afterwards becomes 'stalled' and pings go through for a while after it
[07:10] <crzygrndpa> Does the server installtion come with X server?
[07:10] <Amaranth> bur[n] er: http://amaranth.selfip.com/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[07:10] <apokryphos> Blacken: I've tested several ISOs and haven't seen it (also been idling in here for a few hours). Perhaps in that scenario it's worth just recommending an x reconfiguration
[07:10] <dabaR__> http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[07:10] <Ademan> i either want to carve tux or the bsd-daemon into a pumpkin, anyone know where i might find cutouts?
[07:10] <kennae> I have problem with Edgy and screen resolution: I have right modeline in xorg.conf but I cant use my 1360x1024 resolution
[07:10] <dvheumen> but my ADSL modem doesn't seem to understand it if the packet comes from an internet ip back
[07:10] <crzygrndpa> Or is it just a console server?
[07:10] <PriceChild> dvheumen: silly question... set up dns correctly?
[07:10] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: well, the torrent link is on the page I provided.
[07:10] <rixxon> i get tons of warnings about "falling back to locale" something, need i worry?
[07:10] <Blacken> apokryphos: which is what we've been doing. :p
[07:10] <Amaranth> pazeropdqsf: edgy?
[07:10] <Flats> Ok lets try it this way
[07:10] <dvheumen> PriceChild: It doesn't even work based on ip pinging
[07:10] <MasseR> And after a while even pings won't go throught
[07:10] <MasseR> -t
[07:10] <Ademan> crzygrndpa: i'm pretty sure it doesnt, servers are meant to be administered via ssh
[07:10] <mepaYancho> Is there a way to get a list of all the files which can be added extra using " update-manager -c " pls ?
[07:10] <MasseR> Said something about buffer being full
[07:10] <pazeropdqsf> Amaranth: yes
[07:11] <PriceChild> dvheumen: yeah silly question... i'll just be quiet
[07:11] <apokryphos> Blacken: ok, ping me when the next person has the problem, if you can.
[07:11] <crzygrndpa> Ademan: yeap, I know... just curious before I head back over to it
[07:11] <Flats> I now have a hard drive without a mount point.  ALl I want to do is be able to mount it and then setup my FTP server to allow anyone to write to it
[07:11] <Blacken> apokryphos: 'k
[07:11] <dvheumen> PriceChild: I'm glad you're thinking with me :P
[07:11] <PriceChild> beryl questions.... now that's something i know a small amount about...
[07:11] <Khamael> what does nessus do?
[07:11] <do_kev> hey guys.. do I have to reinstall Ubuntu to get version 6.10, or is there a way to upgrade?
[07:11] <thrice`> Flats, is it ntfs or fat32 ?
[07:11] <LjL> !upgrade | do_kev
[07:11] <ubotu> do_kev: Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:11] <apokryphos> do_kev: you can upgrade; check the channel topic
[07:11] <dvheumen> PriceChild, Amaranth: and the ubuntu workstation that is routing between 10.0.1.0 and 10.0.0.0 can do internet and DNS and all
[07:11] <Amaranth> pazeropdqsf: you want to add a 3rd-party repo?
[07:11] <chaoticg33k> yes you can upgrade
[07:11] <Flats> fat32
[07:11] <Ademan> crzygrndpa: well, in that case i dont know FOR SURE, but i'm pretty sure
[07:11] <do_kev> Thanks LjL!
[07:11] <PriceChild> dvheumen... have you got a really restrictive firewall setup on the router?
[07:11] <Amaranth> pazeropdqsf: or just install nvidia-glx from ubuntu's repos?
[07:11] <pazeropdqsf> Amaranth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia <-- im following that guide and trying to enable restricted packages
[07:12] <LookTJ> is the server responding now?
[07:12] <Blue42> can upgrade straight from commandline... gksudo "update-manager -c"
[07:12] <cyph1e> Hi, I just installed ubuntu 6.10. I have a GeForce 7900 GS, and after I install the drivers, I can't start X after reboot. This is the error log: http://pastebin.ca/222911
[07:12] <dvheumen> PriceChild: I've got the DNS on my 10.0.1.2 PC set to my ISP's DNS (nope, no firewall on the Modem, does have NAT)
[07:12] <Khamael> do_kev: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[07:12] <Amaranth> pazeropdqsf: Oh, alright
[07:12] <variant> lupine_85: i let it do it's thing and the artwork packages are removed.. how do you get the default ubuntu artwork again?
[07:12] <do_kev> thanks to you as well, Khamael
[07:12] <Amaranth> pazeropdqsf: make sure the checkbox for 'Propreitary drivers from devices' is checked
[07:12] <PriceChild> dvheumen: you have tried pinging more than one place? tried google.com?
[07:12] <dabaR__> variant: aptitude search artwork
[07:12] <Amaranth> pazeropdqsf: that's all you have to do in there
[07:12] <dvheumen> PriceChild: yep, I have also confirmed that pinging works with the workstation
[07:12] <pazeropdqsf> Amaranth: k thx :)
[07:13] <LookTJ> !edgy
[07:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[07:13] <PriceChild> dvheumen ok... so must be something wrong with the workstation we're thinking?
[07:13] <Amaranth> pazeropdqsf: they made that much easier in edgy :)
[07:13] <Blue42> is there a way to upgrade via ssh? :)
[07:13] <Blue42> at work now, ubuntu machine sadly at home
[07:13] <PriceChild> Blue42 as in remotely?
[07:13] <Blue42> ya
[07:13] <Amaranth> Blue42: I wouldn't recommend it.
[07:13] <chaoticg33k> I've already got 70% of the server iso off of bittorrent and its only been 20ish min.
[07:13] <dvheumen> PriceChild: ... yes and no,... I think it can't be because I can successfully ping my modem, which is past the workstation
[07:13] <Amaranth> Blue42: And if you wait until you get home the servers might be less swamped.
[07:13] <gubuntu> why is us.archive.ubuntu.com _extremely_ slow? when running apt-get update?
[07:13] <anders9034> You have searched for apachectl in breezy, architecture i386.  Found 1 matching files/directories, displaying files/directories 1 to 1. usr/sbin/apachectl					    web/apache [universe] 
[07:14] <PriceChild> dvheumen wel then it must be the router...
[07:14] <do_kev> hm, what does LTS mean, and as somebody fairly new to Ubuntu, would you guys recommend upgrading?
[07:14] <Blacken> gubuntu: Because everyone and their grandmother is downloading from it.
[07:14] <Amaranth> gubuntu: because probably 100000 people are trying to use it :P
[07:14] <LjL> !lts | do_kev
[07:14] <ubotu> do_kev: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[07:14] <chaoticg33k> gubuntu everyone is using it
[07:14] <PriceChild> gubuntu because its a mirror
[07:14] <dvheumen> PriceChild: Yep...that's my thought also...
[07:14] <dabaR__> and mirrors are slow
[07:14] <apokryphos> For everyone: upgrade instructions (yes, your question about upgrading is probably answered there) is available in the channel topic link
[07:14] <anders9034> package apache has no installation candidate?
[07:14] <gubuntu> is this a recent thing, because using it two weeks ago was lightening fast
[07:14] <Flats> !mount
[07:14] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:14] <dabaR__> !apache
[07:15] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[07:15] <dvheumen> PriceChild: It does reply to my ping, so it knows how to reach me (static route)
[07:15] <rixxon> i get tons of warnings about "falling back to locale" something, need i worry?
[07:15] <eracc> Is there a *buntu mailing list for when security updates are released? If so, where does one go to sign up?
[07:15] <PriceChild> dvheumen what modem is it?
[07:15] <do_kev> ubotu: Sorry, what do you mean by supported?
[07:15] <DJ_Danni> Hello
[07:15] <thrice`> do_kev, ubotu is a bot :)
[07:16] <Blacken> do_kev: ubotu is a bot. LjL told the bot to talk at you.
[07:16] <dvheumen> PriceChild: Draytek Vigor 2500
[07:16] <chaoticg33k> do_kev they provide updates and security fixes, bug patches
[07:16] <apokryphos> anders9034: do you want apache2 perhaps?
[07:16] <PriceChild> never heard of it...
[07:16] <dabaR__> !universe > anders9034
[07:16] <DJ_Danni> Hey what is the command to Browser to the Root Files??
[07:16] <thee> do_kev: ubotu is a bot not an actual person
[07:16] <SpacePuppy> bcm43xx drivers for my el-cheepo Dell are not automagically supported out of the box on 6.10 :(
[07:16] <apokryphos> dj_baggio: alt+f2 -> gksu nautilus. You generally shouldn't run GUI apps as root though
[07:16] <root> Alright - so I'm having some extremely weird errors
[07:16] <dvheumen> PriceChild: Well, I'll put it this way, it's advanced enough to support modem-modem VPN connections and sorts
[07:16] <variant> DJ_Danni: sudo su - and then ls /
[07:16] <gubuntu> ubotu, tell do_kev about ubotu
[07:16] <Noah0504> I used bcm43xx-fwcutter to get my Broadcom 4318 wireless card working under Edgy.  However, I'm having problems losing my wirless connection and sometimes connecting.  My dad's laptop (which runs Windows) doesn't seem to be having any problems with wireless.  Does anyone have any suggestions to get my card to act straight?  I think I might need to go back to Windows (as much as I cringe about even thinking about it).
[07:16] <apokryphos> variant: please recommend sudo -i for getting a root shell instead =)
[07:16] <dvheumen> PriceChild: Not the cheap-o-rama thingy :P
[07:16] <variant> apokryphos: why?
[07:16] <Blacken> apokryphos: What's the difference, exactly?
[07:16] <mepaYancho> Is there a way to get a list of all the files which can be added extra using " update-manager -c " pls ?
[07:17] <PriceChild> dvheumen: he he... i don't know much else than cheap-o-rama.... i'm a student ;)
[07:17] <root> I originally was running Xubuntu, but then installed ubuntu-desktop, and went with Gnome. Now. When I updated to Edgy, I got to the new Xubuntu Login screen
[07:17] <apokryphos> variant; Blacken: it sets up the environment more appropriately; man page for more info
[07:17] <do_kev> thanks guys.  That's somewhat embarrassing. :P
[07:17] <root> and when I entered my username
[07:17] <DJ_Danni> No when i press Alt and F2
[07:17] <variant> apokryphos: sudo su - does the same thing
[07:17] <apokryphos> variant: it does not
[07:17] <gubuntu> lol
[07:17] <variant> apokryphos: it does.. but let me double check
[07:17] <do_kev> does anybody know what "supported" means, as in LTS?
[07:17] <Blue42> offtopic:  if I want to "cd" into a root only folder, how do I do that in Ubuntu?
[07:17] <Kim^J> Can't you get the Edgy Eft cd on printed cds anymoore?
[07:17] <Rico-> hello. what does "the following packages have been kept back" mean?
[07:17] <root> without asking for a password, it said "System will shutdown in One minute!" then said enter the username with the correct case
[07:17] <root> What the heck is going on....
[07:17] <apokryphos> do_kev: long term support. You can get security updates etc for longer.
[07:17] <thrice`> do_kev, they will provide security updates when they arise
[07:17] <dvheumen> PriceChild: hehe, I'm too, but I've fought too many wars with the cheap routers... ow well... :P
[07:17] <PriceChild> do_kev:means critical bugfixes and security updates will be provided
[07:18] <Blacken> apokryphos: sudo -i pretends to be an initial login, but I don't see why that's preferable to su'ing as the actual root user.
[07:18] <do_kev> Pricechild: Thanks
[07:18] <dabaR__> Noah0504: the drivers for bcm cards are buggy still.
[07:18] <apokryphos> Blacken: because you won't have all the same environment variables
[07:18] <variant> apokryphos: it does
[07:18] <PriceChild> dvheumen: if it were me i'd scour the options one by one and press buttons till it worked but that's nt the best advice....
[07:18] <jdsnape> I've started to update to Edgy, however its taking ages to download packages and I need to shutdown. Is it safe to interupt apt-get when its still downloading?
[07:18] <Blacken> apokryphos: I'm pretty sure it does. I've never seen an instance where it didn't.
[07:18] <variant> apokryphos: su - loads the users env vars as does sudo su - as does sudo -i
[07:18] <LjL> variant, besides, sudo can switch to root by itself. no need to chain two (security-sensitive, besides!) different programs that do the same thing... you could type "sudo su -c su -c su -c su" for that matter, and that wouldn't be a good idea for sure
[07:19] <SpacePuppy> Noah0504: did you use the latest drivers from bcm43xx project or did you locate you own?
[07:19] <dabaR__> do_kev: the community puts in work towards the maintenance of that system
[07:19] <dvheumen> PriceChild: k, at least I know I'm not thinking in the wrong direction here... sometimes when I'm fiddling too long with a problem, I'm thinking in the wrong direction... glad that's not the case now
[07:19] <kromel> Updated to Edgy this morning.  Laptop boots to black screen when kernel linux-image-generic is used.  I've tried a search, but found no answers.
[07:19] <Noah0504> SpacePuppy: Well, I just downloaded what someone told me to in the forums.  (I downloaded from the repos)
[07:19] <root> Can someone tell me the name for the default Ubuntu log in manager?
[07:19] <PriceChild> dvheumen i'm sorry i've got no other advice...
[07:19] <anders9034> dabaR: thanks for the !apache :-) that told me all i needed
[07:19] <DJ_Danni> What is the gk command to go in to Admin Desktop folder??
[07:19] <root> My Xubuntu one is all messed up
[07:19] <dvheumen> PriceChild: no problem :D
[07:19] <Blacken> kromel: Boot in recovery mode, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:20] <jdsnape> roto: the default login manager is gdm
[07:20] <kromel> Blacken, thanks, I'll try that.
[07:20] <do_kev> dabaR_: Thanks!
[07:20] <PriceChild> dvheumen: good luck... maybe try posting on the ubuntuforums.org network subforum and pming me on there to see how it goes if you get no joy in here.
[07:20] <Noah0504> SpacePuppy: sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter && sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[07:20] <DJ_Danni> Can somone tell me that??
[07:20] <Noah0504> That's what I ran to get everything going.
[07:20] <root> How can I install the default Ubuntu Splash Screen, I just updated from Dapper and I cannot log in with the one that was installed. It's errored
[07:21] <kromel> Blacken, thanks, will try it.  It boots fine when an older kernel is selected.  Wish me luck.
[07:21] <dabaR__> DJ_Danni: admin desktop folder? that is not a term we use
[07:21] <SpacePuppy> Noah0504: yup that was the line I was wondering if you had run
[07:21] <PriceChild> root: i know this one... one second
[07:21] <Noah0504> SpacePuppy: Is that good or bad?
[07:21] <dvheumen> PriceChild: k, will do :)
[07:21] <root> PriceChild: thanks, will be here :] 
[07:21] <dabaR__> root: the splash screen is not used for logins
[07:21] <DJ_Danni> dabaR__ I am like gksu natio or somthang like that
[07:21] <apokryphos> variant: a plain - won't preserve environment variables
[07:22] <variant> LjL: swings and roundabouts.. there is nothing dangerous about sudo su - compared to sudo -i
[07:22] <PriceChild> root: you on about usplash at startup, or the gdm greeter when you log in?
[07:22] <root> dabaR__: I need the log in screen, then, because, at this moment, I cannot log in - it errors
[07:22] <YoussefAssad> erm, odd. Transparency doesn work anymore ofr any terminal in edgy
[07:22] <root> PriceChild: upslash
[07:22] <dabaR__> DJ_Danni: gksu nautilus. bne careful, cause you can accidentally delete your files with it
[07:22] <Kazuhiro> any one know a good calandar application other than eveolution?
[07:22] <YoussefAssad> _any_
[07:22] <root> PriceChild: I tried to log in, and it said "System will reboot in one minute"
[07:22] <YoussefAssad> Kazuhiro: man at
[07:22] <variant> apokryphos: yes it will load the user who you are changing to env vars
[07:22] <PriceChild> root: you've just told me and dabaR two different things...
[07:22] <dabaR__> root: what is the error
[07:22] <SpacePuppy> that's how i got mine running under 6.06 and it works great.. haven't installed edgy yet.. just fired it up live for the first time and did not recognized my bcm43xx card
[07:22] <DJ_Danni> i know i have to go there to chance permission in www
[07:22] <Gasten> Hello. I'm upgrading to Edgy, But it's take very long time (there seems to be others who does the same...). Is it safe to quit the process att any time? How do I do to continue? will I even be able to boot the computer?
[07:22] <PriceChild> you mean where you type your username and password?
[07:22] <apokryphos> variant: you need -m in there. But also, the su doesn't encourage great behaviour, and gives new users conflicting information, particularly when we tell them "don't use su, use sudo"
[07:22] <Kazuhiro> YoussefAssad, I dont want to schedual jobs :)
[07:23] <PriceChild> root: you mean where you type your username and password?
[07:23] <root> When I try to user my regular username, it says "System will reboot..." Yes, PriceChild - that is correct
[07:23] <variant> lol, ok
[07:23] <Blacken> Gasten: Stopping in the middle MAY work, but also may not.
[07:23] <YoussefAssad> Kazuhiro: okay, man cal :p
[07:23] <MasseR> Hi everyone. I'm having trouble with my broadcom 4400 ethernet card, it stops working after a while. If I ping while it's working, and let it run for long enough I get some buffer errors and the card stops working
[07:23] <root> when I type my username and password
[07:23] <PriceChild> root: that's the gdm greeter...
[07:23] <variant> i dont like sudo anyway, it breaks command completion which i find incredible irritating
[07:23] <root> PriceChild: I believe the prolems stems from the fact that I originally used Xubuntu, so I want to install the upslash that comes default with Edgy Ubuntu
[07:23] <Gasten> Blacken: Ok. I'll try to manage.
[07:23] <Kazuhiro> YoussefAssad, im looking for something like ical from mac osx
[07:23] <LjL> variant: it doesn't on my Edgy.
[07:23] <variant> but then so does gnome startign the name of every program with gnome-
[07:23] <dabaR__> PriceChild: can you think of any reason that the gdm would reboot the system after he logs in?
[07:23] <PriceChild> root: its not usplash!!! :P
[07:23] <dabaR__> I mean, after he tries to log in...
[07:23] <root> PriceChild: sorry, the gdm greeter, my bad
[07:23] <Blacken> apokryphos: You're basically arguing semantics, it looks like to me. In a theoretical sense, sudo -i may be slightly better than sudo su -. However, in practical use there is no difference and is a matter of taste.
[07:23] <PriceChild> dabaR__ root: we'd have to check logs...
[07:23] <apokryphos> variant: so use sudo -i; but we like sudo, and it's Ubuntu's default, so we recommend it. Anyhow, what kind of completion does it ruin for you?
[07:23] <variant> LjL: so you can type for example: sudo nau and press tab to get nautilu?
[07:24] <Adriano> Kazuhiro: qalculate?
[07:24] <variant> nautilus*
[07:24] <lupine_85> variant: you can with dash :p
[07:24] <LjL> variant: no, because i don't have nautilus. but yes, i can do that sort of thing.
[07:24] <PriceChild> dabaR__ root: or maybe startx from tty1 and see if it appears therE?
[07:24] <variant> LjL: you sure?
[07:24] <apokryphos> Blacken: as I said, even if the difference was artificial there's clear _practical_ reasons for advising users to use sudo -i instead
[07:24] <dabaR__> PriceChild: You do that, I will assume he is making it up, or does not speak english well enough to explain
[07:24] <root> what is tty, PriceChild
[07:24] <LjL> variant: no. i guessed.
[07:24] <variant> LjL: i just tested it and im on edgy, doesnt work.. still works for pathnames of course though
[07:24] <Kazuhiro> Adriano, sorry I ment calandar software, something to use as a organiser
[07:25] <sledge_at_work> !easysource
[07:25] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:25] <variant> LjL: lol!
[07:25] <Adriano> ohh
[07:25] <Blacken> apokryphos: You think they're "clear practical reasons". variant and I do not. So why are you trying to change them? Linux CLI has more than one way to do just about everything.
[07:25] <chaoticg33k> root its the command line that is a black screen with a flashing cursor
[07:25] <chaoticg33k> white text
[07:25] <apokryphos> Blacken: you didn't give a practical reason for why it isn't
[07:25] <MasseR> Hi everyone. I'm having trouble with my broadcom 4400 ethernet card, it stops working after a while. If I ping while it's working, and let it run for long enough I get some buffer errors and the card stops working
[07:25] <variant> LjL: dash.. /me checks
[07:25] <ifrozen> hi all
[07:25] <LjL> variant: of course i'm sure. check your .bashrc and see if you have the "programmable completion features" enabled
[07:25] <variant> lupine_85: dash.. /me checks i mean
[07:25] <Blacken> apokryphos: Because it's not what people are used to and there's no practical *difference* between the two.
[07:25] <Adriano> Kazuhiro: evolution-calendar? (no, I don't have a mac), or gnome-calendar? or sunbird (still alpha)?
[07:25] <variant> LjL: never checked that
[07:26] <Blacken> variant: sudo should allow tab-completion; heck, apt-get does.
[07:26] <PriceChild> root: press ctrl+alt+f1, log in, type "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" "startx" (on different lines without "s) press ctrl+alt+F1 again and look for errors.
[07:26] <tabman> I have Ubuntu 6.06, can I update to 6.10 from within ?
[07:26] <variant> Blacken: you dont know what i mean
[07:26] <apokryphos> Blacken: sudo su - gives new users conflicting information, particularly when we tell them ubuntu doesn't use su, it uses sudo. How is that not practical?
[07:26] <apokryphos> tabman: yes, check topic
[07:26] <dabaR__> tabman: read the topic
[07:26] <MasseR> !upgrade | tabman
[07:26] <ubotu> tabman: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[07:26] <PriceChild> tabman: "sudo update-manager -c"
[07:26] <LjL> variant: AFAIK it's enabled by default in Edgy. if you upgraded from an older distribution, though, it's very possible that you don't have it enabled.
[07:26] <vipernicus> what are the new pro-active security features?
[07:26] <JaZyWRK> i can't get the headers from the repo they time out..
[07:26] <Shadowthrone> Are the Ubuntu servers particularly slow at the moment because of all the upgrading?
[07:26] <PriceChild> !upgrade
[07:26] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[07:26] <Blacken> apokryphos: Then I would suggest you stop telling them "OMG NO SU".
[07:26] <variant> apokryphos: saying the root account is disabled by default on ubuntu is also missleading
[07:26] <Kazuhiro> Adriano,  thanks.
[07:26] <dabaR__> MasseR: don't use that, just refer to the topic
[07:26] <variant> LjL: i see, cool
[07:26] <root> PriceChild: I'm in X now
[07:26] <apokryphos> Blacken: yeah, great call. Considering su is disabled by default.
[07:26] <dabaR__> Shadowthrone: yes.
[07:26] <Blacken> apokryphos: root is not disabled by default, it's just starred out. That's misleading information as well.
[07:27] <MasseR> dabaR__: Ah okay
[07:27] <root> PriceChild: I went to the recovery console and then just entered startx
[07:27] <PriceChild> root: type what i said
[07:27] <Blacken> apokryphos: It's not "disabled", it's not available to standard user permissions. There is a difference.
[07:27] <LjL> variant: besides, enabling it will let you type things such as "sudo apt-g<tab> in<tab> nau<tab>"
[07:27] <apokryphos> variant: no, it isn't. The encryption used defines its level as "disabled"
[07:27] <Shadowthrone> dabaR__: not just my connection; good. Cheers.
[07:27] <PriceChild> ok and ctrl+alt+f1 back to see if there are any errors...
[07:27] <variant> LjL: nice
[07:27] <MasseR> I'm having trouble with my broadcom 4400 ethernet card, it stops working after a while. If I ping while it's working, and let it run for long enough I get some buffer errors and the card stops working
[07:27] <Adriano> Kazuhiro: evolution should be already installed by default on Ubuntu, the others are a question of installing and trying, I think
[07:27] <variant> apokryphos: lol
[07:27] <Blacken> apokryphos: Except it's obviously not disabled, as you can use it with sudo.
[07:27] <LjL> variant: it works with a few programs.
[07:27] <dabaR__> Shadowthrone: cheers
[07:27] <variant> LjL: but not all?
[07:27] <Blacken> LjL: Aye, I was happy to find that one out. It's very useful.
[07:28] <DarqFiber> any idea when the us.archive will be back up ?
[07:28] <apokryphos> Blacken: and yet it *is* disabled; we don't tell users to setup su as soon as they get onto ubuntu. Ubuntu uses the sudo model
[07:28] <variant> anyway, the use of sudo with the same password as the user is dangerous
[07:28] <PriceChild> DarqFiber: it is up... just being hammered
[07:28] <vipernicus> PriceChild, what are these new proactive security features in edgy?
[07:28] <DarqFiber> no doubt ;)
[07:28] <Blacken> apokryphos: And both are equally valid, so you probably ought to stop trying to tell people how to advise others when both approaches work equally well.
[07:28] <apokryphos> variant: if you want to debate the advantages of sudo vs. su then fine, please msg and I'll give you many more reasons, but perhaps we should stop the rest here
[07:28] <variant> any remote exploit becomes a root exploit where sudo is used
[07:28] <tabman> what is edgy alternate install CD ?
[07:28] <LjL> variant: well, the "sudo whatev<tab>" thing works everywhere... but comman-specific completion, such as "apt-get ins<tab>" or "dpkg --get<tab>", clearly only works if a completion scheme exists for that program
[07:29] <PriceChild> vipernicus: please expand... where did you read about these?
[07:29] <root> PriceChild: when I press ctrl + alt + F1 it enteres a black window with no login, I can type things but nothjing happens
[07:29] <vipernicus> PriceChild, the announcement
[07:29] <nanomad> where have gones all the xmodmap.* files in edgy???????
[07:29] <variant> LjL: nice
[07:29] <mcdonaldswes> I'm trying to build a 2.6.18.1 kernel for dapper and when I boot, I'm getting these "unable to create /dev/.udev/queue" error messages.. I assume I'm missing a kernel option somewhere? any ideas?
[07:29] <PriceChild> vipernicus i can't read the announcement...
[07:29] <Blacken> apokryphos: I mean, hell, I'd be happy to stop offering help if mine isn't bloody acceptable, but there's no reason to fight with others about how they choose to help them when there is no problem with either approach.
[07:29] <PriceChild> root: that's very not good
[07:29] <LookTJ> Hey, where is proftpd.conf located
[07:29] <PriceChild> root: you are holding each button in turn right?
[07:29] <dabaR__> nanomad: one ? would have been enough to indicate your words are a question and less annoying.
[07:29] <Shadowthrone> Can someone explain the differences between sudo, su, gksu and gksudo?
[07:29] <variant> Blacken: yeah, it's just showing off :P
[07:29] <vipernicus> PriceChild, proactive security features, preventing many common security vulnerabilities even before they are discovered;  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyAnnouncement
[07:29] <apokryphos> Blacken: your help is welcome, but when it's counterproductive it's hardly great
[07:30] <The_Alexander> witajcie
[07:30] <The_Alexander> mam problem z Firestarterem
[07:30] <The_Alexander> pomozecie mi?
[07:30] <LjL> !pl
[07:30] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:30] <apokryphos> Blacken: it's kind of hard to argue that good practices aren't to be encouraged. Example: sudo kedit is fine, but it suggests it's fine to run KDE apps via sudo, where it is not.
[07:30] <boink> The_Alexander: nie mowimy po polsku tutaj
[07:30] <Blacken> apokryphos: And you have not said how it's counterproductive, you've just said how it differs from the way YOU do it. Ubuntu could suddenly go "okay, it's not GNOME anymore, it's GNUME"--but I'd still call it GNOME, because there's no difference.
[07:30] <The_Alexander> dzieki, moja pomylka
[07:30] <The_Alexander> sorry :)
[07:30] <apokryphos> Blacken: sudo kedit might be fine, but sudo kate will get you into problems one you start changing settings
[07:31] <Blacken> apokryphos: sudo kate (which I assume you meant) doesn't WORK.
[07:31] <root> Pricechild: Yes
[07:31] <dabaR__> Shadowthrone: there are man pages for each, I believe, that is a good place to start
[07:31] <boink> mowimy po anglisku
[07:31] <root> Pricechild: I'm sure there were all at once
[07:31] <apokryphos> Blacken: it depends on yoru ubuntu distribution
[07:31] <dabaR__> Blacken: what does doesn't work mean?
[07:31] <Hummin> hi alla!
[07:31] <apokryphos> Blacken: and no, I didn't mean kate the first time around.
[07:31] <dabaR__> It does not earn nmoney?
[07:31] <stefg> Seveas, are you listening? When will source-o-matic and your personal repo support edgy, any idea?
[07:31] <LjL> apokryphos, Blacken: please let us take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic - the channel is already busy enough
[07:31] <root> Great, I just lost my support
[07:31] <Blacken> apokryphos: I'm using Kubuntu 6.10, and it says bad display whenever you try to sudo any KDE gui.
[07:31] <Shadowthrone> dabaR__: okay, cheers.
[07:31] <pazeropdqsf> howcome everything concerning ubuntu seems to download slow? :S
[07:31] <Hummin> I installed ubuntu only on a ppc, and now I want os x back.. but the cd won
[07:31] <Hummin> t boot
[07:31] <PriceChild> ry
[07:31] <dabaR__> stefg: when he has some free time, he got a new job and is busy
[07:31] <Hummin> any help/url ?
[07:31] <apokryphos> LjL: good call
[07:32] <variant> pazeropdqsf: because its a busy day for ubuntu
[07:32] <PriceChild> vipernicus: i don't know sorry
[07:32] <soundray> Hummin: what kind of machine?
[07:32] <pazeropdqsf> i downloaded the image at 86 kb/s, which is ultra slow for me, now im downloading packages at 238 b/s ...
[07:32] <Hummin> soundray: g3 imac
[07:32] <pazeropdqsf> ow
[07:32] <Leone> pazeropdqsf, what ur adsl?
[07:32] <variant> pazeropdqsf: everyone is downloading today.. wait for tomorrow and it will be fast again
[07:32] <Leone> 1 mega?
[07:32] <pazeropdqsf> variant: ok
[07:32] <soundray> Hummin: and you're booting from the Mac OS X install CD?
[07:32] <pazeropdqsf> Leone: na, cable
[07:32] <soundray> Hummin: or trying to, rather?
[07:32] <Hummin> soundray: ya.. trying to
[07:32] <Hummin> yepp
[07:33] <MasseR> I'm having trouble with my broadcom 4400 ethernet card, it stops working after a while. If I ping while it's working, and let it run for long enough I get some buffer errors and the card stops working
[07:33] <chapium> Hummin, try holding down 'C'
[07:33] <barnetod> anyone got time helping me understand the confusing partition?
[07:33] <Hummin> did
[07:33] <soundray> Hummin: that's with the C key held down?
[07:33] <chapium> ah
[07:33] <Hummin> tried googling
[07:33] <Hummin> it boots linux discs just fine
[07:33] <Hummin> but not the osx
[07:33] <Hummin> weird
[07:33] <DarqFiber> why does the macromedia flash plug in blow up firefox 2.0 ?
[07:33] <soundray> DarqFiber: maybe because it's still beta?
[07:33] <Hummin> soundray: yah, ofcourse.. that
[07:33] <variant> DarqFiber: becuase its buggy proprietry software :P
[07:34] <Hummin> s how I got ubuntu installed
[07:34] <DarqFiber> heheheh
[07:34] <justthisguy> DarqFiber: what, flash 9?
[07:34] <barnetod> anyone have experience installing a dual boot with xp?
[07:34] <DarqFiber> don't think so
[07:34] <variant> barnetod: sadly yes
[07:34] <lupine_85> !dualboot
[07:34] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:34] <pazeropdqsf> i have windows on another partition on this computer, is it at all possible to import firefox passwords to the firefox in linux?
[07:34] <root> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=37395
[07:34] <chapium> hummin, perhaps yaboot is messing with it, can you tell yaboot to use the cd?
[07:34] <sergio> hola
[07:34] <DarqFiber> just the one that firefox wants to install
[07:34] <barnetod> lupine wish those worked
[07:34] <DarqFiber> I installed it
[07:34] <root> How can I install this theme: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=37395
[07:34] <variant> pazeropdqsf: yeah, just copy a few of the files from the profile
[07:34] <DarqFiber> now when I go to a flash page it shuts down
[07:34] <lupine_85> they work fine, if you set them up right
[07:34] <nanomad> anyone can explain me why all the xmodmap.* files are located in the gnome-applets-data package???????????
[07:34] <Hummin> chapius.. yaboot has c for cd.. but only seems to load linux cds
[07:34] <pazeropdqsf> variant: k thx
[07:34] <barnetod> im just real confused with the partition table
[07:34] <variant> pazeropdqsf: i think it should be the same text format
[07:35] <MasseR> I'm having trouble with my broadcom 4400 ethernet card, it stops working after a while. If I ping while it's working, and let it run for long enough I get some buffer errors and the card stops working
[07:35] <barnetod> this is my first install of ubuntu, so gotta bare with me
[07:35] <nanomad> this makes no sense
[07:35] <chapium> i personally can't see why one would use OS X on a G3, its dog slow
[07:35] <variant> !repeat | MasseR
[07:35] <ubotu> MasseR: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:35] <Hummin> chapium: cant even use xwindows with my 256mb..
[07:35] <chapium> depends on the g3 i suppose, definately not mine
[07:35] <Hummin> thats why
[07:35] <soundray> I have trouble with the fonts after upgrading to edgy. They look poor, especially in gnome-terminal. Bitstream Vera Sans Mono with LCD subpixel smoothing -- used to look great, now frayed with a rainbow effect. What to do?
[07:35] <MasseR> variant: Which is why I was tryng to wait long enough :)
[07:36] <Hummin> its slow as in click and wait 5 seconds for respons.. wait 5-10 second for each widget to redraw
[07:36] <variant> MasseR: :)
[07:36] <DigitalNinja> Anyone playing games on linux?
[07:36] <dabaR__> root: same as any other theme, http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q7
[07:36] <aoupi> DigitalNinja: does mines qualify?
[07:36] <Rico-> edgy has totally screwed up my mounts, it's mounted my ipod twice and my dvd drive twice
[07:36] <reiki_work> DigitalNinja: I play WoW in a WINE window :)  that count?
[07:37] <Rico-> it mounted an ext3 partition at /dev/sdb2 as a second ipod
[07:37] <dabaR__> DigitalNinja: no, noone plays games in linux
[07:37] <DigitalNinja> aoupi: Well, it's a game but I'm looking for 3D games
[07:37] <chapium> digitalninja, what was your question/
[07:37] <DigitalNinja> let me ask a better question
[07:37] <dabaR__> DigitalNinja: ask the question again, this time about what you really want to know
[07:37] <dabaR__> sure
[07:37] <MrKeuner> hi, I am having lots of eth0 errors after booting into edgy, where should i start?
[07:37] <soundray> !planetpenguin-racer | DigitalNinja
[07:37] <ubotu> planetpenguin-racer: another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 242 kB, installed size 700 kB
[07:37] <root> hi
[07:37] <root> everytime I try to install the theme file I downloaded form gnome look it says invalid format
[07:38] <dabaR__> MrKeuner: see if anything is not working
[07:38] <axa-axa> Can someone please tell me where can I find good guide for upgrading from Dappar Drake 6.06 to Edgy Eft 6.10?
[07:38] <virgin|Vicente> does anyone want to play q3?
[07:38] <root> how can I install the gdm greeter I downloaded?
[07:38] <aoupi> soundray: that game is very entertaining
[07:38] <thrice`> !upgrade
[07:38] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[07:38] <thrice`> man, there is no mt-daapd package in ubuntu
[07:38] <MrKeuner> dabaR__: what do you mean?
[07:38] <soundray> aoupi: I wouldn't know, but my son plays it a lot.
[07:38] <dabaR__> root: have you looked at the tutorial that I gave you?
[07:38] <DigitalNinja> Does anyone play 3D games with a high end graphics card?
[07:38] <root> dabaR__: no
[07:38] <chapium> root, its under preferences on the gnome menu
[07:38] <root> dabaR__: what tutorial was that?
[07:38] <dabaR__> MrKeuner: is something not working? like the connection?
[07:38] <dabaR__> root: go read alraedy http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q7
[07:38] <MrKeuner> dabaR__: no I am connected through it now bu thaving lots of errors in ifconfig output's error part
[07:39] <MrKeuner> dabaR__: and connection is slow too
[07:39] <eracc> Anyone else having problems with us.archive.ubuntu.com today?
[07:39] <soundray> Are you guys all happy with how the fonts look in edgy? Noticed any change? Mine look really poor -- suggestions?
[07:39] <axa-axa> !upgrade
[07:39] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[07:39] <eracc> Keeps timing out here.
[07:39] <dabaR__> MrKeuner: what errors? are you downloading torrents?
[07:39] <reiki_work> DigitalNinja: are you restricting your question to linux-native games?
[07:39] <variant> MrKeuner: i have a simmilar problem
[07:39] <dabaR__> eracc: it is busy, can you ping it?
[07:39] <MrKeuner> dabaR__: no regular repository downloads from ubuntu
[07:39] <variant> MrKeuner: connection dissapears every few mins for 10 or 20 seconds before comeing back
[07:39] <dabaR__> MrKeuner: repository is busy today.
[07:39] <thrice`> soundray, do you have a screenshot ?
[07:39] <MrKeuner> dabaR__: how can I check if correct module is loaded for my eth card
[07:40] <MrKeuner> variant: I have thinkpad r52 here
[07:40] <soundray> thrice`: no, but I will have in a short while
[07:40] <variant> MrKeuner: and lots of dropped packets and carriar errors
[07:40] <variant> MrKeuner: tosh lappy here
[07:40] <eracc> dabaR__, I can both traceroute to it and ping it. But running 'apt-get update' times out on it.
[07:40] <MrKeuner> variant: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 11)
[07:40] <DigitalNinja> reiki_work: Well, what I'm looking for is someone with a high end grapics card. I want to know what works and what doesn't.
[07:40] <root> dabaR__: gdmsetup returned:   Failed to connect to socket, sleep 1 second and retry Trying failed command again.  Try 2 of 5.
[07:40] <variant> MrKeuner: mines 8130too based 100mb card
[07:41] <eracc> I think I will just use archive.ubuntu.com for now.
[07:41] <reiki_work> DigitalNinja: I have a 512MB nVidia 6300gt card... works fine. That help? Or did you mean higher end than that?
[07:41] <variant> DigitalNinja: everything works with the high end cards, as they use the proprietry drivers from the manufacturer (nvidia/ati)
[07:41] <meat`2> how do you change your wifi network via command line? the gui doesn't seem to work
[07:41] <rixxon> i'm worried this upgrade will fuck up the system, i get loads of errors
[07:41] <DigitalNinja> reiki_work: That's a start.
[07:41] <variant> meat`2: iwconfig as root
[07:41] <DigitalNinja> reiki_work: I've got a nx7600
[07:42] <LjL> !language | rixxon
[07:42] <ubotu> rixxon: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:42] <MasseR> rixxon: Don't worry it wil work
[07:42] <b33j0r> b33j0r: can anyone help me? if I have started a process on a remote machine via ssh, how can I make the process continue after I close the ssh session? thanks
[07:42] <MrKeuner> Which module is this card supposed to use? Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 11)
[07:42] <rixxon> LjL: sorry, bad habit
[07:42] <MasseR> b33j0r: screen
[07:42] <DigitalNinja> reiki_work: I can't get it to work on my epox motherboard. It locks up when I use the card
[07:42] <MasseR> b33j0r: man screen
[07:42] <rixxon> MasseR: ok thank you
[07:42] <mock> Hi, I am having troubles with apt-get (synaptic and so on ...) ... I repeadedly getting the error: Dynamic MMap ran out of room ... later on, synaptic thinks there is nothing installed ... (on Dapper) Any idea, how to restore the package database?
[07:42] <nanomad> please confirm this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xmodmap/+bug/68435 (or close it if i'm wrong)
[07:42] <dabaR__> root: root and you tried system>administration>login manager>add+?
[07:43] <meat`2> what does the "lo" entry in iwconfig stand for?
[07:43] <Angryelf_> has anyone here tried out the myth 0.20 packages for edgy yet?
[07:43] <variant> meat`2: localhost
[07:43] <rixxon> meat`2: loopback
[07:43] <variant> meat`2: loopback as rixxon says i mean
[07:43] <root> dabaR__: there is nothing under admin that says login manager... did you mean update manageR?
[07:43] <b33j0r> MasseR: will that help me if I've already started the jobs?
[07:43] <soundray> thrice`: http://www.soundray.org/screenshot.png. In the chooser dialog, the font looks like I want it to look. But check the terminal windows...
[07:43] <MasseR> b33j0r: No you have to start them with screen
[07:43] <LookTJ> I can barely download a thing synaptic
[07:43] <MasseR> For example 'screen -S irssi irssi'
[07:43] <dabaR__> root: how about login window?
[07:44] <LookTJ> ubuntu needs more RAM and bandwitch
[07:44] <root> dabaR__: no
[07:44] <dabaR__> b33j0r: you can run the process with nohup <command>&
[07:44] <meat`2> mine says "no wireless extensions". i take it that's bad
[07:44] <b33j0r> i started a wget of two of the new iso's for edgy over ssh, so if I close the connection will they stop?
[07:44] <b33j0r> and I backgrounded them
[07:44] <dabaR__> root: then go to apps>system tools>alacarte menu editor and add the login manager to your system>admin menu
[07:44] <DigitalNinja> Anyone use the geforce nx7600 or something close. I can't get mine to work
[07:45] <dabaR__> b33j0r: I don't know whether they will stop, but it is possible.
[07:45] <aoupi> !info screen > b33j0r
[07:45] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 566 kB, installed size 976 kB
[07:45] <reiki_work> ok that's sad... I was mouse-hovering over stuff in soundray's screenshot to see what they tooltip would tell me.... *** sigh ***
[07:45] <soundray> LookTJ: great typo ;)
[07:45] <dabaR__> b33j0r: nohup means dont hang up the process after I hang up
[07:45] <crzygrndpa> How do I enable access to the universe repository?
[07:45] <MasseR> So apparently the error is ping: sendmsg: No buffer space available. Google ->
[07:45] <b33j0r> thanks, I'll restart with nohup
[07:45] <pazeropdqsf> FFS i followed the guide to the letter, i reboot, theres no splash screen and my fuckin sound is dead :@
[07:45] <soundray> !repos | crzygrndpa
[07:45] <ubotu> crzygrndpa: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:46] <LjL> !language | pazeropdqsf
[07:46] <ubotu> pazeropdqsf: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:46] <pazeropdqsf> soz, just angry :<
[07:46] <pazeropdqsf> i try to avoid automatix and install it myself and after the first little thing, it already goes haywire :'(
[07:46] <soundray> reiki_work: shall I take another one, with the tooltip active? ;)
[07:46] <LjL> !automatix
[07:46] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[07:46] <FRET> Hey all. Are there known problems when upgrading from dapper? Do I keep my installed applications?
[07:46] <root> dabaR__:
[07:47] <soundray> pazeropdqsf: look into easyubuntu
[07:47] <reiki_work> soundray: thanks but no... I'm here at work on a windoze box and miss my home system :)
[07:47] <soundray> !easyubuntu
[07:47] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:47] <root> so, alacarte wasn't in the menu, so I ran it from the command line - but I cannot uncheck/check new items to adjust what is shown - I see login window though
[07:47] <kuja> Anyone happen to know what the total size of main/universe/multiverse combined is?
[07:47] <reiki_work> kuja: like... to build a mirror?
[07:47] <DigitalNinja> why isn't anyone using the high end geforce/nvidia cards? Am I the only one.
[07:47] <Amaranth> kuja: too big
[07:47] <kuja> Sort of, reiki_work
[07:48] <Amaranth> kuja: ubotu used to know
[07:48] <Hummin> ok.. anyone ran a linux dist on a ppc computer with only 256mb ram ?
[07:48] <soundray> thrice`: what do you think about that font issue?
[07:48] <root> dabaR: ?
[07:48] <Hummin> is there something like puppy linux for ppc?
[07:48] <reiki_work> kuja: I believe you'll need to download about 30GB to build a mirror
[07:48] <kuja> I'm only on main/o in my debmirror process
[07:48] <dabaR> root: well, I can not think of anything else to tell you. It should work.
[07:48] <kuja> But so far 2GB
[07:48] <aoupi> Hummin: I run debian on one, but I only have 94M RAM
[07:48] <stefg>  Good question, kuja. I'd estimate between 7-10 GB in packages
[07:48] <soundray> Hummin: you could try xubuntu
[07:48] <Amaranth> kuja: main itself will fit on a DVD
[07:48] <ricanelite> how can i change dapper to edgy using Nano?
[07:48] <kuja> Amaranth: I wonder, if I strip the KDE crap from main/universe/multiverse, compressed it with bzip2, would if fit on my iPod nano? :P
[07:48] <aoupi> Hummin: It's a imac G3, running fluxbox
[07:48] <MrKeuner> variant: do you think it could be a kernel problem?
[07:49] <Hummin> soundray: did.. live disc makes a ram disc and eats my mem
[07:49] <Amaranth> kuja: the entire archive is something like 20GB
[07:49] <jrib> ubotu: tell ricanelite about upgrade
[07:49] <dabaR> ricanelite: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:49] <Hummin> aoupi: oh, that might work
[07:49] <EmxBA> irc.ubuntu.com ?
[07:49] <MrKeuner> variant: it looks like my usual ntework card module was loaded
[07:49] <kuja> Amaranth: Biggest being universe?
[07:49] <EmxBA> new server?
[07:49] <ChrisWhite> hmm, I seem to be having trouble with downloading from us.archive.ubuntu.org
[07:49] <Amaranth> kuja: yeah
[07:49] <b33j0r> actually, I closed the ssh session and the jobs kept going
[07:49] <b33j0r> thanks though
[07:49] <EmxBA> migration from freenode to irc.ubuntu.com?
[07:49] <root> dabaR: I just realized that there are some other items in italics that cannot be turned on or off - however others can, there must be some other problem
[07:49] <Hummin> aupi: wasn't too hard to set up, was it?
[07:49] <kuja> Can I just leave out universe? :P
[07:49] <Amaranth> EmxBA: it's still freenode
[07:49] <dabaR> b33j0r: remember the nohup command
[07:49] <Flats> why would the drive type be in fstab if it was just partitioned as a linux drive type
[07:49] <b33j0r> i will, thanks!
[07:49] <jrib> !slowrepos | ChrisWhite
[07:49] <ubotu> ChrisWhite: Some of the Ubuntu repositories may have slow response time or time out altogether, due to the many connections from people upgrading to Edgy. Please be patient, bandwidth is a limited resource unfortunately!
[07:49] <FRET> are there known problems when upgrading from dapper?
[07:49] <EmxBA> Amaranth: and is there anyone on irc.ubuntu.com
[07:49] <Amaranth> EmxBA: irc.ubuntu.com points to freenode
[07:50] <EmxBA> ah ok :)
[07:50] <crzygrndpa> ubotu: I see how to access the universal repository in the GUI... but I'm working with a server. How would I configure using the console?
[07:50] <kuja> What exactly does universe represent, Amaranth?
[07:50] <Amaranth> kuja: everything
[07:50] <ChrisWhite> jrib: ah, ok thanks
[07:50] <Amaranth> kuja: basically :P
[07:50] <EmxBA> ubotu is a bot, crzygrndpa
[07:50] <dabaR> kuja: visit the components page about ubuntu.
[07:50] <dabaR> !repos>kuja
[07:50] <aoupi> Hummin: I don't remember, I don't think it was too hard
[07:50] <crzygrndpa> EmxBA: lol :)
[07:50] <Amaranth> kuja: main is the stuff in the default installs of edubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, ubuntu, and ubuntu-server + some small little extras
[07:50] <Amaranth> kuja: universe is everything else
[07:50] <soundray> crzygrndpa: post your current /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin and I'll show you what to change.
[07:51] <kuja> multiverse is...?
[07:51] <kuja> Unofficial or what?
[07:51] <dabaR> crzygrndpa: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file with a command line editor
[07:51] <soundray> !pastebin | crzygrndpa
[07:51] <ubotu> crzygrndpa: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:51] <jrib> FRET: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[07:51] <dabaR> kuja: go read the components page
[07:51] <Amaranth> kuja: multiverse is non-free or patent encumbered stuff
[07:51] <kuja> I see
[07:51] <root> Amaranth: I'm trying to run gdmsetup, but it says:   Failed to connect to socket, sleep 1 second and retry
[07:51] <root>   Trying failed command again.  Try 2 of 5.
[07:51] <root> when I try to run the command, what is going on?
[07:51] <pazeropdqsf> can anyone guess as to why, after installing the nvidia drivers (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia) on edgy, the drivers dont work and my sound is suddenly dead?
[07:52] <Amaranth> kuja: debian is 15GB, ubuntu is probably in the same ballpark
[07:52] <dabaR> root: what command do you use to run it?
[07:52] <root> dabaR: gdmsetup
[07:52] <Done> when i try to upgrade to edgy i get thos error msg "Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg Temporary failure resolving packages.freecontrib.org
[07:52] <kyja> the upgrade script does not work.
[07:52] <kuja> Amaranth: If I wanted to fit universe on my iPod, what exactly would I want to strip, for say upgrading a default ubuntu install?
[07:52] <Amaranth> root: sudo gdmsetup
[07:52] <dabaR> root: try gksudo gdmsetup
[07:52] <kaosx> anyone know if the edgy repos for the U.S. are working right now?
[07:52] <FRET> jrib, I've read that, thx. Will I lose my installed apps?
[07:52] <Amaranth> kuja: everything :P
[07:52] <stefg> !slowrepos
[07:52] <ubotu> Some of the Ubuntu repositories may have slow response time or time out altogether, due to the many connections from people upgrading to Edgy. Please be patient, bandwidth is a limited resource unfortunately!
[07:52] <dabaR> Done: that URL is dead, remove it from your sources.list
[07:52] <root> Amaranth: dabaR both resulted in the same thing
[07:52] <jrib> FRET: you shouldn't but there are no guarantess of course
[07:52] <root> Failed to connect to socket
[07:52] <kaosx> thanks stef
[07:53] <soundray> kyja: I had that problem. I did the apt-get thing instead.
[07:53] <Amaranth> kuja: you can't just pick and choose, universe has games, video players, gnome software, kde software, office apps, etc, etc, etc
[07:53] <Done> thanks dabaR
[07:53] <kyja> kyja@kyja-laptop:/media/cdrom0$ sudo sh ./cdromupgrade
[07:53] <kyja>    <- returns
[07:53] <kyja> ic
[07:53] <Hummin> aoupi: is that an old-world mac or new ?
[07:53] <kuja> Amaranth: I'm using debmirror, but I really want to strip kde software and office apps, basically
[07:53] <kyja> Ic many complaints. perhaps I should hold off.
[07:53] <aoupi> Hummin: new world
[07:53] <Flats> why would the drive type be in fstab if it was just partitioned as a linux filesystem partition
[07:53] <Amaranth> kuja: It won't make it fit in 4GB
[07:53] <jrib> FRET: even if you do have a program uninstalled for some reason, it should be easy enough to just install it again.  All you configuration files would still be there
[07:53] <Hummin> aoupi: do you know if old world macs will run debian?.. cause I have a couple
[07:53] <Flats> ext1?
[07:53] <Amaranth> kuja: and bzip2 compression won't shrink the size of the packages by much, if at all
[07:54] <kaosx> Flats, probably ext3
[07:54] <EmxBA> erm, i think this is the record - 1095 persons in room
[07:54] <Flats> tried that
[07:54] <aoupi> Hummin: they will, but it is not fun to set up :)
[07:54] <kaosx> primary
[07:54] <FRET> jrib, alright, thx :-)
[07:54] <Amaranth> kuja: they're all either gzip or bzip2 compressed already
[07:54] <aoupi> Hummin: you need bootx or whatever it was called
[07:54] <Flats> sVFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sda.
[07:54] <roler> Does EDGY support the transparent window manager better now? Through metacity??
[07:54] <Adriano> the number of people is really pushing Gaim a bit
[07:54] <soundray> kyja: there are many more successful upgrades than complaints. If you install ubuntu-desktop before upgrading, and you use apt-get dist-upgrade, you should be fine.
[07:54] <Hummin> aoupi: ahaa.. i'll look into that.. thanks
[07:54] <reiki_work> Adriano: tell me about it...
[07:54] <kuja> Damn, I need to write an apt-zip replacement then.
[07:54] <reiki_work> I'm using ChatZilla at work
[07:54] <reiki_work> :)
[07:54] <Whatsisname> wtf is going on
[07:55] <EmxBA> and there are just few graphical changes in edgy, some icons changed and ubiquity is better, but almost the same, there are some new options and that's all.
[07:55] <kaosx> the new splash is alot "prettier"
[07:55] <Amaranth> EmxBA: What did you expect?
[07:55] <EmxBA> yap
[07:55] <kyja> ok. so my 6061 should upgrade fine.
[07:55] <EmxBA> i did expect that
[07:55] <GaiaX11> Is edgy already estable?
[07:55] <kuja> Amaranth: I know you're into the GNOME game and Python. Be a nice old buddy and write me something that'll parse the package list and download packages and dependencies in Python/Gtk.. PLEASE :)
[07:55] <Done> dabaR,  should i remove all the PLF repositories?
[07:55] <kaosx> Last time I ran edgy nothing worked on my laptop
[07:55] <ExilE> anyone know how to get realtek rtl8187 drivers running in 64bit
[07:55] <EmxBA> since dapper was ok, edgy is just updated edgy ;)
[07:55] <Amaranth> kuja: hahahahah
[07:55] <dabaR> Done: plf has no more ubuntu repositories
[07:55] <FRET> jrib, there are obviously two ways of doing it. apt-get install ubuntu-desktop with editing the sources, or just apt-get dist-upgrade. Which one should I do?
[07:56] <aoupi> Hummin: I had an old-world up untill a few weeks ago when I decided to throw it away, but I was required to have one OS9 partition to start the boot loader soo that it could boot linux :)
[07:56] <kuja> Actually, it wouldn't be difficult at all =P
[07:56] <Adriano> so, gaim beta4 is to be compiled and tested, right now!
[07:56] <kaosx> you can do it through update manager too, I think
[07:56] <ubs_> can anyone tell how to change cursors?
[07:56] <jrib> ubs_: tell FRET about upgrade
[07:56] <Amaranth> kuja: python-apt would help
[07:56] <jrib> ugh
[07:56] <ehird> Ubuntu says it will take 30 minutes to download 2 tiny games and their dependencies, at less than 10kbps. Why is this happening?
[07:56] <jrib> ubotu: tell FRET about upgrade
[07:56] <kaosx> id do apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get upgrade
[07:56] <Amaranth> kuja: but this is all terribly offtopic
[07:56] <kuja> Amaranth: That breaks the portability aspect
[07:56] <kuja> Yeah
[07:56] <kyja> ummm
[07:56] <kyja> no
[07:57] <EmxBA> kyja and kuja? :S
[07:57] <kuja> Amaranth: I'll probably do it at home, in Ruby, yes... RUBY
[07:57] <kyja> I noticed that hehe
[07:57] <Amaranth> kuja: :P
[07:57] <kuja> :S
[07:57] <reiki_work> just to confirm...if I do the gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" using teh 6.10 RC CD I downloaded a couple days ago. That will do the entire upgrade? Does it also change teh sources.list?
[07:57] <YoussefAssad> 
[07:57] <Amaranth> kuja has been around longer :P
[07:57] <kyja> perhaps
[07:57] <Amaranth> reiki_work: it should
[07:57] <soundray> ubs_: System-Prefs-Mouse-Pointers
[07:57] <kuja> Amaranth: I noticed Alacarte a few days ago, was yours. I was browsing around realistanew, and I thought to myself I remember you writing a GNOME menu editor, I didn't know you named it Alacarte :P
[07:57] <MrKeuner> dabaR_: doesn't this necessarily mean a problem?           RX packets:183415 errors:52403 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[07:57] <kyja> I only sighned onto freenode lastyear
[07:57] <reiki_work> Amaranth: should save me the bandwidth headaches too, huh? :)
[07:58] <Amaranth> kuja: hehe
[07:58] <Amaranth> reiki_work: yeah
[07:58] <ehird> guess it also blocks irc messages!
[07:58] <Amaranth> reiki_work: although there are probably 100MB worth of things to download from RC to final
[07:58] <dabaR> MrKeuner: if it works, don't fix it.
[07:58] <kyja> I cant sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it gives me 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded
[07:58] <MrKeuner> dabaR: :) hm OK
[07:58] <Xk2c> Hello folks
[07:58] <talisein> ubuntu servers melllllllllting
[07:58] <EmxBA> ah i installed edgy few hrs ago and there were 2 updates immediately :D :D :D
[07:58] <Xk2c> we had an other great release of [Edu,KXU] buntu.
[07:58] <dabaR> kyja: sudo aptitude upgrade
[07:58] <Amaranth> kyja: either you're already using edgy or your dapper install has some problems
[07:59] <Xk2c> Usually we have "Hug Days" were volunteers get hugs from others when helping triaging bugs.
[07:59] <ehird> Oh, are packages slow because the servers are overloaded right now?
[07:59] <kyja> hrm ok
[07:59] <Xk2c> TODAY i want to announce the first inofficial developer hug day!  ;)
[07:59] <ehird> I could live with that.
[07:59] <reiki_work> ehird: YES
[07:59] <ricanelite> okay i have problem which i have been doing for so long now
[07:59] <ehird> reiki_work: OKAY
[07:59] <soundray> Guys, have you got a suggestion for my font problem? Bitstream Vera Sans Mono looks great in the chooser, but poor in gnome-terminal. http://www.soundray.org/screenshot.png
[07:59] <Amaranth> Xk2c: I could use a hug. :P
[07:59] <reiki_work> sorry... stupid caps lock :)
[07:59] <shablab> is the file chooser (no home/Desktop entries) bug resolved in the final release?
[07:59] <EmxBA> is this a record? 1091 users ... were there 1100? :)
[07:59] <Xk2c> The developers do much work and therefore "we users" should hug each
[07:59] <ehird> i could use a hug for the hours i've spent making ubuntu work with my net connection
[07:59] <Xk2c> developer for this.
[07:59] <ehird> :D
[08:00] <Amaranth> EmxBA: We had just over 1100 earlier.
[08:00] <Xk2c> Also mind MOTUs, translators and artists were ever you get them. :D
[08:00] <EmxBA> nice ;)
[08:00] <kyja> lol same thing for  sudo aptitude upgrade
[08:00] <rixxon> Xk2c: ofcourse, we will need to develop a gaybuntu version aswell.
[08:00] <EmxBA> this is the biggest channel on freenode ;)
[08:00] <ehird> Xk2c: Is that the answer to the Christian Ubuntu?
[08:00] <MasseR> Grah this network -.-
[08:00] <pazeropdqsf> did anyone answer my nvidia - soundcard issue?
[08:00] <kyja> also complains build essentials are held back
[08:00] <MonsieurBon> how long does it take to stop MySQL server? dist-upgrade doesn't do anything since a few minutes....
[08:01] <ricanelite> when i install Ubuntu i usually like to install the Kubuntu Desktop now i have been following this steps forever now which is sudo aptitude update and sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop and now it says itCouldn't find any package whose name or description matched "kubuntu-desktop"
[08:01] <Xk2c> rixxon and ehird it is just to show respect
[08:01] <root> How can I install the default ubuntu Edgy gdm log in screen, when I'm currently using Xubuntu's (because that was my base installation)
[08:01] <ricanelite> whats is going with this?
[08:01] <ricanelite> i have been doing this forever now and never had a problem
[08:01] <g333k_work> Hello, how can I do to launch firefox everytime I turn on my PC?
[08:01] <rixxon> Xk2c: i wasn't _all_ serious, you know :)
[08:01] <dabaR> ricanelite: nice
[08:01] <Xk2c> rixxon and ehird because THEY DO a lot of work! .. for us
[08:01] <dabaR> ricanelite: sorry
[08:01] <EmxBA> g333k_work: add it to startup sessions
[08:01] <dabaR> rixxon: nice
[08:01] <Xk2c> oki rixxon
[08:01] <aoupi> root: Applications -> System -> login window
[08:01] <EmxBA> system - preferences - ssessions g333k_work
[08:01] <rixxon> dabaR: what?
[08:02] <jvolkman> ricanelite, why not just download the Kubuntu 6.10 cd?
[08:02] <dabaR> rixxon: the version of ubuntu that you came up with in response to the developer hugs
[08:02] <ehird> Xk2c: like being the only ones who will get us laid? (re: Gaybuntu) :P
[08:02] <kyja> eh I will just install on a 20 gig partition and migrate my home folder. then adjust the 100 gig back to edgy
[08:02] <root> aoupi: that's not listed there, and I cannot add it - nor can I run gdmsetup, there's some big error behind the whole thing
[08:02] <rixxon> Xk2c: yep
[08:02] <Flats> Still stuck.  I have my drive mounted as /test.  test is owned by root.  I can't write to it nor chnage the permissions.  What am I missing
[08:02] <kuja> Amaranth: Just a quick question, if I wanted to install mplayer, are the packages in main enough as dependencies?
[08:02] <Amaranth> kuja: nope, it uses things from universe and multiverse
[08:02] <Flats> anytime I mount the drive it changes the mount point to root ownership
[08:02] <kuja> Okay
[08:03] <shablab> is edgy still using the 8774 nvidia drivers with the root exploit?
[08:03] <ExilE> can i run ubuntu 32bit when i have amd64 processor i know this sounds starnge but humour me
[08:03] <ehird> (by the way, if there was one thing that would make me use ubuntu's terminal over winxp's cmd, it would be CTRL+Z)
[08:03] <kuja> I also noticed a lot of crap I have I can't install at home because of outdated GTK libraries
[08:03] <kuja> That stuff is in main though, I think
[08:03] <g333k_work> EmxBA, I use xfce
[08:03] <aoupi> ehird: as far as I know you can
[08:03] <soundray> ExilE: you can
[08:03] <EmxBA> g333k_work: then i dunno (
[08:03] <Amaranth> kuja: synaptic has a 'generate package download script' option under the file menu
[08:03] <apokryphos> shablab: I believe that was fixed, but check the changelog to be sure
[08:03] <ExilE> is thT THE I386 DISTRO
[08:03] <kuja> Amaranth: That works on Windows?
[08:03] <Amaranth> kuja: haha, no
[08:04] <kuja> Amaranth: How about cygwin?
[08:04] <shablab> apokryphos: alright
[08:04] <Amaranth> kuja: no
[08:04] <ehird> is it safe to install something via apt-get while a package manager is downloading something, and would it appear in the pckage manager? Basically do all package managers use the same database
[08:04] <reiki_work> I just realized that my entire (and separate) data drive still has a complete and bootable Dapper install on it. I could boot that drive instead of my main drive and update Dapper and then upgrade to Edgy and test teh whole thing before committing to doing it on my main drive... woo-hoo!
[08:04] <soundray> ExilE: yes. It'll give you fewer problems as well.
[08:04] <Amaranth> kuja: it only works on ubuntu
[08:04] <kuja> Amaranth: I thought so, it requires apt, right?
[08:04] <MasseR> -.-; I have a bad feeling this error is connected to acpi
[08:04] <ExilE> thanks a lot
[08:04] <aoupi> ehird: try, you'll get an error
[08:04] <soundray> ehird: apt-get will refuse to run if you have a package manager open
[08:04] <apokryphos> ehird: they use the same database, and you won't be able to use apt-get while the graphical package manage ris running
[08:04] <dabaR> shablab: /msg ubotu info nvidia-glx, /msg ubotu info nvidia dapper
[08:04] <Draconicus> evanlikebike: Look at the PM.
[08:04] <kuja> Amaranth: If I write a thing for this, I'll let you know (I'll write a Python one too), just in case you're interested in writing a small GTK frontend to it or have any extra ideas.
[08:05] <EmxBA> so what happened with #ubuntu+1?
[08:05] <kaosx> kuja: cygwin requires that you either build from source or use the setup.exe application to add *nix applications to it
[08:05] <soundray> EmxBA: it's now about the Feisty Fawn
[08:05] <ehird> but if i close the package manager and do the apt-get would opening the package manager show it as installed and let me do the regular stuff with it?
[08:05] <disasm> EmxBA: i've been wondering the same thing
[08:05] <Amaranth> kuja: alright
[08:05] <kuja> kaosx: Well, I got debmirror working on cygwin :)
[08:05] <kaosx> cool
[08:05] <EmxBA> #ubuntu+1 redirects to #ubuntu :S
[08:05] <kuja> How do you think I'm downloading pool/main right now? :)
[08:05] <FlimFlamMan> yippee  :-)
[08:05] <Dybber> I just upgraded to Edgy Eft and im having some problems first: before upgrading it was possible to start the wm ratpoison by choosing it under "Sessions" at the loginscreen. Its disappeared.
[08:05] <Dybber> How do i get it back?
[08:06] <FlimFlamMan> can i upgrade to edgy by modifying my apt sources like last time?
[08:06] <TheGateKeeper> is it possible to install firefox 1.5 in edgy?
[08:06] <EmxBA> FlimFlamMan: yap
[08:06] <kaosx> Dybber youll probably have to reinstall ratpoison
[08:06] <Xk2c> bye folks
[08:06] <EmxBA> TheGateKeeper: yap, there are ubuntu backports
[08:06] <kuja> Amaranth: Can I PM you with small details I'll need when I go home? I think you might know, it has to do with version numbers on package names.
[08:06] <apokryphos> FlimFlamMan: you can use the update manager; see the topic.
[08:06] <aoupi> Dybber: make sure it hasn't been removed (apt-get install ratpoison)
[08:06] <Dybber> kaosx, i did that
[08:06] <ehird> i guess it will then?
[08:06] <FlimFlamMan> apokryphos: thanks
[08:06] <Amaranth> kuja: err, alright
[08:06] <bkjones> anyone know if there's a way to re-run ubuntu's video detection/config
[08:06] <TheGateKeeper> EmxBA: just add them to your sources.list?
[08:07] <dabaR> TheGateKeeper: not through apt, download the program from firefox site if they have old versions for download
[08:07] <Dybber> I have tried removing and installing ratpoison again
[08:07] <EmxBA> yes, TheGateKeeper
[08:07] <kaosx> check /usr/share/xsessions to see if its still there
[08:07] <bkjones> the livecd for 6.10 just threw vesa in my xorg.conf file. No Bueno(tm)
[08:07] <ehird> guess i'll try myself :)
[08:07] <MasseR> So closing acpi during boot doesn't effect on the error
[08:07] <kaosx> dybber, check /usr/share/xsessions
[08:08] <Dybber> kaosx, it isn't only gnome.desktop is there
[08:08] <ehird> !pastebin
[08:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:08] <TheGateKeeper> EmxBA: excellent :-), firefox seem to have nobled all the extensions in their latest version
[08:08] <kaosx> then youll need to add ratpoison back in there manually
[08:08] <ehird> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28480/ 'nuff said
[08:08] <fluxx> I was trying to enable 3d acceleration with the nvidia-glx package and now X won't start. How can I reset X so I can get my desktop back?
[08:08] <Flats> Still stuck.  I have my drive mounted as /test.  test is owned by root.  I can't write to it nor chnage the permissions.  What am I missing?  Any helpers
[08:08] <azureal> ah, i forgot... what do you need to be able to listen to music and watch something w/ audio online, for example
[08:08] <onurx> can you tell me, howmuch mb does it take upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[08:08] <kaosx> dybber: this is for fluxbox but the process is the same: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116759
[08:08] <dabaR> Flats: you need to mount a drive? is it ntfs?
[08:08] <EmxBA> onurx: depends
[08:08] <rixxon> onurx: depends. took me about 1100 mb
[08:08] <sledge_at_work> onurx: ~900MB
[08:09] <onurx> ok
[08:09] <Done> i having slow download rate during the upgrade?it due to the high traffic of the server?
[08:09] <dabaR> !pygame
[08:09] <azureal> do you need to change your music player to OSS output.. and download something?! i clean forgot
[08:09] <RVman> hi all... i installed ubuntu yesterday and it seems like i cant print in color. i downloaded hpoj driver, i checked the settings of my printer, i even bought a new color box. any ideas?
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pygame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <dabaR> Done: yes
[08:09] <kaosx> !slowrepos
[08:09] <ubotu> Some of the Ubuntu repositories may have slow response time or time out altogether, due to the many connections from people upgrading to Edgy. Please be patient, bandwidth is a limited resource unfortunately!
[08:09] <Flats> no it's mounted as a ext2 linux filesystem
[08:09] <Flats> I see it but cant write to it
[08:09] <dabaR> ehird: pygame does not exist as a packge, compile it
[08:09] <ehird> dabaR:
[08:09] <dabaR> Flats: is it mounted manually, or through fstab?
[08:09] <FlimFlamMan> running update-manager -c does not find any updates available
[08:09] <ehird> dabaR: umm this tutorial says it does
[08:10] <fluxx> I was trying to enable 3d acceleration with the nvidia-glx package and now X won't start. How can I reset X so I can get my desktop back?
[08:10] <Flats> manually right nw
[08:10] <Flats> err now
[08:10] <ehird> Quote: ""Linux/debian installation. apt-get install python pygame"
[08:10] <dabaR> ehird: this tutorial?
[08:10] <Done> if i stop the upgrade can i resume it later?
[08:10] <dabaR> ehird: ubuntu is not debian
[08:10] <ehird> except i already have python so ijust did apt-get install pygame
[08:10] <ehird> dabaR: bleh, k
[08:10] <azureal> i know somebody knows some trick along the lines of oss...
[08:11] <user-land> is there an advantage to mount partitions in /media ?
[08:11] <barnetod> hey guys :)
[08:11] <iter> user-land: no, unless you feel that there is
[08:11] <dabaR> user-land: they show up on the desktop and in the places menu
[08:11] <barnetod> i am having problem with installing ubuntu
[08:11] <dabaR> Done: sure
[08:11] <barnetod> well more of a user problem :)
[08:11] <EmxBA> barnetod: which?
[08:11] <user-land> thanks, dabar.
[08:11] <ehird> before i compile, is there any other way to get pygame?
[08:11] <dabaR> Done: the download part should be safe, don't stop the install process
[08:11] <barnetod> well ihave 4 partitions already emxba
[08:11] <dabaR> ehird: ask google
[08:11] <agent> in math, whats the function that converts any number into its positive? eg. 3->3 and -3->3
[08:12] <barnetod> two from windows and the other two who knows
[08:12] <Done> dabaR,  i do it through update-manger, i have just to close the window and then run again 'gksu update-mager -c'
[08:12] <Kawaii-Panda> agent: absolute value
[08:12] <aoupi> agent: abs
[08:12] <EmxBA> barnetod: swap and root
[08:12] <dabaR> user-land: you are welcome
[08:12] <Kawaii-Panda> agent | |
[08:12] <FlimFlamMan> is anyone else able to update with "update-manager -c"?  it's not find any updates available for me
[08:12] <barnetod> i want to install on the 20 gig partition i made in windows
[08:12] <agent> thats it!
[08:12] <agent> Kawaii-Panda: thank you , thats it
[08:12] <agent> aoupi: thank you!
[08:12] <Kawaii-Panda> :D
[08:12] <jrib> ehird: pygame is in the repositories
[08:12] <barnetod> when i get to gparted
[08:12] <barnetod> do i just delete
[08:12] <Sebboh> How do I install the Subclipse plugin (subversion for Eclipse)?  I want to do it the right way..  Do I make a .deb or what?
[08:12] <jrib> !info python-pygame
[08:12] <barnetod> and reformat as ext2?
[08:12] <dabaR> Done: OK.
[08:12] <ubotu> python-pygame: SDL bindings for games development in Python. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1release-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 961 kB, installed size 2104 kB
[08:12] <ehird> aahh, universe
[08:12] <dabaR> nice
[08:12] <ehird> i have to edit a file for that right?
[08:13] <barnetod> then make a linux swap partition of 512?
[08:13] <EmxBA> barnetod: just choose that partition in ubiquity installer and that's it
[08:13] <ehird> (Sorry, I'm very much a n00b..)
[08:13] <azureal> !info fluxbox
[08:13] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (dapper), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB
[08:13] <SoftIce> wow, dapper upgrade to edgy took me all in all 25 minutes
[08:13] <SoftIce> not bad
[08:13] <Mathias> Hello, I have installad new versions from an other repository and I want to downgrade to the original sources of ubuntu. Is that possible?
[08:13] <Dybber> now ratpoison is back :)
[08:13] <Done> dabaR, thank you
[08:13] <RVman> maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, i installed ubuntu yesterday and i hate it already! i can't hear any other sound as use TeamSpeak and now my printer can only print in grayscale!
[08:13] <barnetod> em is that in the livecd of edgy?
[08:13] <dabaR> Done: you are welcome
[08:13] <EmxBA> barnetod: yes
[08:13] <rixxon> agent: ##math? anyways, abs() is the function, or you could just *-1
[08:13] <azureal> RVman lol, are you part of the audio group?
[08:13] <ehird> RVman: so essentially because of your laziness to get things working you hate ubuntu? okay!
[08:13] <SoftIce> rvalles thats not ubuntu fault that is user fault
[08:13] <Dybber> My emacs font isnt working after upgrading to Edgy Eft, every character is a square :O
[08:14] <tjb> Will Dapper update to Edgy?
[08:14] <barnetod> thats where i was getting stuck
[08:14] <RVman> yay, it worked :D
[08:14] <EmxBA> tjb: check the topic
[08:14] <barnetod> when i choose the partition will it create a swap partition as well?
[08:14] <RVman> FINALLY i get response! :D
[08:14] <barnetod> or do i need to resize
[08:14] <disasm> my fluxbox isn't working, but it's not supported anyway...
[08:14] <agent> rixxon: thank you, i wanted to know hte name, absolute value (abs)
[08:14] <EmxBA> you can resize; ubiquity is REALLY easy
[08:14] <ehird> it's sources.list i think the file, but where is it?
[08:14] <EmxBA> barneto
[08:14] <EmxBA> *barnetod
[08:14] <Seveas> %config channel plugins.encyclopedia.searchorder
[08:14] <ubotu> dapper dapper-commercial dapper-seveas dapper-imbrandon
[08:14] <lampshade> Can you burn the .iso for a CD to a DVD-R or is that not cool for some reason?
[08:14] <azureal> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com   =/
[08:14] <RVman> i guess to say "ubuntu sux" IS the only way to get response from you guys lol
[08:14] <dabaR> ehird: /etc/apt
[08:14] <Fah> upgrading to edgy bricked my computer for a bit. Whats this uid stuff thats supposedly replaces /dev/XXXX names?
[08:14] <Seveas> %config channel plugins.encyclopedia.searchorder edgy edgy-seveas
[08:14] <ubotu> OK
[08:14] <ehird> dabaR: thank you! :)
[08:15] <EmxBA> RVman: what?
[08:15] <azureal> mirror crashed?
[08:15] <barnetod> the ubiquity installer i take it is the install icon on the desktop right?
[08:15] <EmxBA> what's your problem, RVman?
[08:15] <Fah> I had to boot into single user mode and fix grub's confg and fstab
[08:15] <EmxBA> azureal: servers are overloaded
[08:15] <EmxBA> !slowrepos
[08:15] <ubotu> Some of the Ubuntu repositories may have slow response time or time out altogether, due to the many connections from people upgrading to Edgy. Please be patient, bandwidth is a limited resource unfortunately!
[08:15] <azureal> archive.ubuntu.com crashed i think
[08:15] <ehird> and you guys said it'd handle the load :-)
[08:15] <RVman> well.... i can't hear any other voice when i used teamspeak and my printer only prints in grayscale (thats two problems)
[08:15] <ubuntu_> ciao a tutti
[08:15] <CarinArr> i'm actually pretty impressed, i'm downloading the upgrades at 600k/sec
[08:15] <agent> RVman sucks! ;)
[08:15] <dabaR> ciao
[08:16] <azureal> ciao
[08:16] <ubuntu_> qualcuno italiano???
[08:16] <RVman> agent, of course i do :)
[08:16] <jrib> !it | ubuntu_
[08:16] <azureal> rofl
[08:16] <dabaR> !it
[08:16] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:16] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:16] <hmrocha> hello
[08:16] <EmxBA> hi
[08:16] <agent> !pl
[08:16] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:16] <RVman> i don't REALLY think that ubuntu sux, but if you look in the upper screen, you will notice that its the only way to get an answer to my questions.
[08:16] <CarinArr> forget that, down to 150k/sec now
[08:16] <ehird>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28481/ i've uncommented universe in sources.list but it still says this :S
[08:16] <EmxBA> RVman: teamspeak? i think that only works in windows
[08:16] <bina> how do you list all hard drives on a computer (including ones that arent mounted)?
[08:17] <jrib> ehird: did you do 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[08:17] <azureal> RVman, lol i think the only person who sucks is you =P
[08:17] <ehird> jrib: no, i guess i'll do that ;)
[08:17] <EmxBA> bina: cfdisk or df -h or fdisk
[08:17] <dabaR> ehird: sudo aptitude install python-pygame
[08:17] <hmrocha> hello
[08:17] <EmxBA> hi
[08:17] <bina> EmxBA: sweet thanks
[08:17] <EmxBA> np bina
[08:17] <ehird> dabaR: um, i'm using apt-get. is that a problem
[08:17] <Stormx2> Yay I got edgy right up to the standard I had dapper at :)
[08:17] <Stormx2> Perfect!
[08:17] <hmrocha> i'm trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy with the cdrom
[08:17] <Sebboh> How do I install the Subclipse plugin (subversion for Eclipse)?  I want to do it the right way..  Do I make a .deb or what?
[08:17] <dabaR> ehird: no
[08:17] <ehird> dabaR: guess i'll continue using it, then ;)
[08:17] <EmxBA> hmrocha: you have alternative CD? it is required for that
[08:17] <agent> RVman: i don't REALLY think that you suck, but look at the the upper screen, you will notice that its the only way to make a point
[08:17] <hmrocha> i can't boot the livecd, i tried removing all dapper reps and added just the cdrom
[08:17] <dabaR> ehird: the package name is wrong, it is python-pygame, not just pygame
[08:18] <FlimFlamMan> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release.gpg  Connection failed [IP: 195.248.90.54 80] 
[08:18] <RVman> agent, no.
[08:18] <AaronCampbell> are all the servers carrying the new ubuntu getting slammed right now?  I can't even seem to get a .torrent file for it :|
[08:18] <EmxBA> damn it, servers are overloaded. use other mirrors *please*!
[08:18] <RVman> im not making a point.
[08:18] <ehird> by the way, is there any way to get numlock to turn on at startup? i type the numbers in my password with the numpad so it jarrs my typing often
[08:18] <reiki_work> AaronCampbell: yes
[08:18] <Sebboh> FlimFlam, use a mirror!
[08:18] <user-land> mi Install refuses to proceed from step 5 (choosing the partition mount points), saying 'No root file system', despite the first partition being assigned '/' ...
[08:18] <LjL> !language | agent, RVman
[08:18] <ubotu> agent, RVman: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:18] <agent> RVman: ;)
[08:18] <FlimFlamMan> Sebboh: can't you just use the subclipse update url from within eclipse?
[08:18] <RVman> i didn't use bad words
[08:18] <AaronCampbell> Any idea where I could grab the .torrent that's still responsive?
[08:18] <EmxBA> RVman: stop
[08:19] <RVman> stop what?
[08:19] <ehird> user-land: it happens you have to delete linux partition and make it again well at least i had to
[08:19] <reiki_work> If users in the US use australian mirrirs, they should be hitting teh servers at what... about 2:30am OZ-time?
[08:19] <EmxBA> asking the same question million of times, RVman
[08:19] <Sebboh> FlimFlam, can I?  =)
[08:19] <ehird> probably not a good idea for people with files on there
[08:19] <RVman> ok
[08:19] <EmxBA> -->try googling a bit ;) RVman
[08:19] <freacky22527> re!
[08:19] <ehird> this apt-get update thing, does it take a long time? it seems to be :p
[08:19] <user-land> thanks, ehird.
[08:19] <barnetod> em should i make 3 partitions for ubuntu?
[08:19] <EmxBA> ehird: depending on your connection
[08:19] <Fah> is there an appropriate place to report bugs in the upgrade process?
[08:20] <RVman> http://bash.org/?152037 <--- so true. and EmxBA - i DID google. a lot. i did a lot of stuff and coming here was my last choice.
[08:20] <Webstrand> Where can i get a .torrent file for the new ubuntu release?
[08:20] <barnetod> home swap and primary?
[08:20] <jrib> !bugs | Fah
[08:20] <EmxBA> fah: launchpad.net and browse
[08:20] <ubotu> Fah: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:20] <ehird> EmxBA: well it's going at like 4kbps :p
[08:20] <EmxBA> barnetod: yap
[08:20] <Fah> thanks
[08:20] <EmxBA> ehird: servers are overloaded
[08:20] <hmrocha> EmxBA: i need the alternative cd to install from the terminal?
[08:20] <ehird> is it safe to CTRL+C it?
[08:20] <barnetod> okay thanks man for the help
[08:20] <AaronCampbell> is ubuntu just one CD?  Not multiples or DVD?
[08:20] <EmxBA> hmrocha: you need alternative cd to install packages from it
[08:20] <Sebboh> Flimflam, since Eclipse doesn't run as root, how can auto-updates work?
[08:20] <ehird> aaroncampbell: there is a cd version but nope one cd
[08:20] <EmxBA> you can't install packages from live cd
[08:20] <dabaR> !torrents | Webstrand
[08:20] <ubotu> Webstrand: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Edgy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[08:20] <hmrocha> EmxBA: ok, thanks
[08:20] <ehird> *dvd
[08:20] <EmxBA> you can only boot it and install hmrocha
[08:21] <Webstrand> ok thanks
[08:21] <agent> AaronCampbell: one cd per arch - dvd has multiple arches i believe (could be wrong)
[08:21] <EmxBA> can anyone put a notice in the topic to use other mirrors, archive.ubuntu.com is getting overloaded? ops?
[08:21] <EmxBA> !ops
[08:21] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:21] <agent> AaronCampbell: actually, not sure if there is a dvd :P
[08:21] <Amaranth> EmxBA: All the mirrors are getting overloaded too
[08:21] <ehird> woo, pygame is installing! slowly.
[08:21] <EmxBA> there was dapper dvd
[08:21] <apokryphos> EmxBA: please, only use that in emergencies.
[08:21] <EmxBA> Amaranth: ok
[08:21] <EmxBA> sorry apokryphos
[08:21] <AaronCampbell> agent: I know there was for 6.06 but I don't see one for 6.10
[08:22] <dabaR> just ban him, he is annoying anyhow
[08:22] <ompaul> EmxBA, ?
[08:22] <azureal> how does one get multiple sources of audio to play at the same time? is it oss, I forget how to set it up...
[08:22] <hmrocha> EmxBA: i'm downloading it now, thanks
[08:22] <EmxBA> ompaul: nothing
[08:22] <apokryphos> azureal: dmix or xine
[08:22] <Kawaii-Panda> azureal: i think its jack
[08:22] <ompaul> EmxBA, be careful with that - we have written in the big book abuse buys ban
[08:23] <azureal> apokryphos + Kawaii-Panda er..  what?!
[08:23] <mamzers555> can somebody tell me what happened to "/etc/default/bluez-utils"? Does this file still exist in edgy, or where else should i insert some bluetooth-mouse-stuff?
[08:23] <EmxBA> ompaul: abuse buys ban? you are talking about me or?
[08:23] <apokryphos> azureal: well, if you're using xine on the multiple programs then as I recall they'll all play fine
[08:23] <apokryphos> azureal: otherwise, you can use dmix with alsa, but it'll take some time to configure.
[08:24] <apokryphos> I believe even totem can use a xine backend
[08:24] <azureal> Kawaii-Panda, oh, are you talking about xmms-jack?
[08:24] <Webstrand> i can only find them for 6.06 not 6.10
[08:24] <Kawaii-Panda> libjack allows multiple apps to mix audios.
[08:24] <azureal> apokryphos, i was talking about audio, tho
[08:24] <ompaul> EmxBA, use of that call gets a ban - it is 112 911 or 999 depending where you are
[08:24] <MasseR> So... EIther this problem is caused because it's loading too fast and somehow gets clogged and won't revive after that
[08:24] <MasseR> Or something else <.<
[08:24] <Kawaii-Panda> i mean uh j audio connection kit thing (jack)
[08:24] <apokryphos> azureal: totem plays audio, but other specifically audio apps use xine, too; amarok certainly does. Not sure about other GTK apps though
[08:24] <EmxBA> ompaul: using "ops" ?
[08:25] <mamzers555> somebody knows this and could help me?
[08:25] <apokryphos> right
[08:25] <afief> I am trying to connect two ubuntu boxes through a cross network cable, but they seem unable to communicate. anybody knows what to do?
[08:25] <ompaul> EmxBA, yes
[08:25] <azureal> apokryphos, the solution involves changing one thing to oss and another to alsa or something... idk what you're talking about...
[08:25] <BlueEagle> I am not getting boinc to attatch to the seti project. When I do --lookup_account I get retval: 0. What would cause this?
[08:25] <azureal> i just dont remember..
[08:25] <EmxBA> ok, i won't use it from now on, only in emergency situations. OK?
[08:25] <azureal> and/or maybe running  "aoss <appname>
[08:25] <apokryphos> azureal: what two apps do you want to give audio output at the same time?
[08:26] <azureal> apokryphos, firefox and beep-media-player
[08:26] <dabaR> !bluez-utils
[08:26] <ubotu> bluez-utils: Bluetooth tools and daemons. In component main, is optional. Version 3.7-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 788 kB
[08:26] <dabaR> mamzers555: there is a package to install.
[08:27] <apokryphos> azureal: your firefox is using totem though, right?
[08:27] <azureal> apokryphos, let's keep it simple -- let's start w/ flash so that we can concentrate on the audio
[08:27] <apokryphos> not sure actually how that'd work. Though, azureal: if beep had a xine backend then it wouldn't interfere with firefox
[08:27] <mamzers555> daR
[08:27] <apokryphos> !find beep
[08:27] <ubotu> Found: beep, beep-media-player, beep-media-player-dev, beep-media-player-scrobbler, beepcore-c-dev (and 2 others)
[08:28] <mamzers555> dabaR, i know, but the file is not in the package anymore
[08:28] <apokryphos> anyone know if beep has a xine backend?
[08:28] <azureal> apokryphos, beep is based off of xmms
[08:28] <maxb_at_work> Is there a packages.qa.debian.org equivalent for ubuntu?
[08:28] <apokryphos> yes...
[08:28] <mamzers555> dabaR, or is now another file responsible for the bluetooth-stuff
[08:28] <onurx> There isnt any torrent files on download page
[08:28] <apokryphos> !torrents
[08:28] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Edgy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[08:28] <dabaR> mamzers555: sudo dpkg -L bluez-utils
[08:29] <dabaR> mamzers555: sudo dpkg -L bluez-utils|grep /etc/default/bluez-utils
[08:29] <jwl007> does edgy have better video support at all?
[08:29] <eobanb> my update manager says 'Can't install 'ubuntu-desktop'' when trying to update to edgy
[08:29] <eobanb> 'It was impossible to install a required package.  Please report this as a bug.'
[08:29] <mamzers555> dabaR, nothing
[08:29] <dabaR> jwl007: it has a new kernel.
[08:30] <dabaR> !find /etc/default/bluez-utils edgy
[08:30] <ubotu> File /etc/default/bluez-utils found in bluez-utils
[08:30] <apokryphos> azureal: actually, have you looked through /msg ubotu sound first?
[08:30] <d-E-u-S> when i shut down my xubuntu then turn the hdd off but the pc is still on, what can i do?
[08:30] <azureal> apokryphos, oooh, if i run   aoss beep   _and_ aoss firefox it works
[08:30] <apokryphos> interesting
[08:30] <Adriano> !libglib2.0-0dev
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libglib2.0-0dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <dabaR> d-E-u-S: press the power button and hold for 5 seconds
[08:30] <Adriano> !libglib2.0-0
[08:31] <ubotu> libglib2.0-0: The GLib library of C routines. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 490 kB, installed size 1080 kB
[08:31] <Adriano> !libglib2.0-0-dev > Adriano
[08:31] <d-E-u-S> dabar yeah but its not comfortable
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libglib2.0-0-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <Adriano> sorry
[08:31] <dabaR> d-E-u-S: give it a pillow
[08:31] <Puaff> please, which word replaces dapper in /etc/sources.list for the ubuntu 6.10?
[08:32] <MasseR> Puaff: edgy
[08:32] <dabaR> Puaff: /topic
[08:32] <d-E-u-S> sorry my english is bad
[08:32] <azureal> apokryphos, sadly aoss firefox makes it really buggy..
[08:32] <d-E-u-S> dont know what is a pillow lol
[08:32] <apokryphos> azureal: how about if you just use aoss with beep?
[08:32] <Puaff> MasseR, dabaR thank you :)
[08:32] <lukketto> hi guys, I have a problem with the screen resolution on my new edgy: if I set 1024X768 it appears a black sreen (I think is the "software" of the monitor) with "out of resolution". In Dapper 1024X768 worked well....any suggestions?
[08:32] <d-E-u-S> have somebody a solution fr my power off problem?
[08:32] <dabaR> d-E-u-S: never mind. Why is it not comfortable to turn it off that way?
[08:32] <diminthedam> helo, could someone show me to a guide on ftp commands, please?
[08:33] <dabaR> diminthedam: man ftp
[08:33] <d-E-u-S> dabar xubuntu so not turn off automatic like ubuntu ???
[08:33] <dabaR> d-E-u-S: depends on the computer. does this computer normally shut off with Ubuntu?
[08:34] <Flats> I have a hard drive mounted as /test.  I can see it and see it's mounted but I can't write to it.  Any ideas?
[08:34] <mamzers555> dabaR, i know, it should be in /etc/default/bluez-utils but it is not there, it is also not listed in the package if you take a look with synaptic
[08:34] <d-E-u-S> with kubuntu yes dabar
[08:34] <mamzers555> dabaR, any idea?
[08:34] <apokryphos> Flats: fstab entry must be wrong; what do you have for it currently?
[08:34] <lupine_85> Flats: add gid=46 to the options in fstab
[08:34] <Flats> well its a manula mount right now until I get it working.
[08:34] <Flats> err manual
[08:35] <Abnaxos> Hi there! Is it right that Ubuntu *always* switches to the console on suspending the computer?
[08:35] <lupine_85> or just to the mount line then
[08:35] <Abnaxos> i.e. that I can only choose between "switch" or "double switch", but not "don't switch"?
[08:35] <apokryphos> Flats: vfat or ext3 or ntfs?
[08:35] <gopp> hi
[08:35] <agent> does windowmaker support mutliple desktops?
[08:35] <gopp> why do I get an error
[08:35] <BrightEyes`> hello.when i open xmms on Kubuntu i cant read the menu selections.what can i do?
[08:35] <gopp> when I use the software update
[08:36] <Subdee> gopp: what's the error?
[08:36] <Flats> thats a good question.  I'm not sure which to use.
[08:36] <apokryphos> BrightEyes`: don't you like kubuntu's default player?
[08:36] <gopp> about someting to do with libdcss
[08:36] <gopp> the follow package where not update libdcss
[08:36] <ubuntu_> HELP! I tried dist-upgrade'ing to Edgy and it got stuck. I had a "relocation error" message and it had something to do with glibc "dl_out_of_memory" is the error. I can't been into my machine anymore, the kernel panics on the same error!
[08:36] <gopp> following
[08:36] <thee> can anybody tell me the version of nvidia legacy drivers in edgy repo?
[08:36] <apokryphos> Flats: could you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l?
[08:36] <Flats> sure
[08:36] <jwl007> how would i find the chipset of my wireless pcmcia card?
[08:36] <apokryphos> thee: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:37] <gopp> subdee that the message
[08:37] <apokryphos> thee: or you can use ubotu, our bot; just /msg ubotu info somepackage
[08:37] <gopp> the following  package where not update libdcss
[08:37] <Flats> dev/sda        /test		ext2	defaults	0	0	0
[08:37] <lukketto> hi guys, I have a problem with the screen resolution on my new edgy: if I set 1024X768 it appears a black sreen (I think is the "software" of the monitor) with "out of resolution". In Dapper 1024X768 worked well....any suggestions?
[08:37] <apokryphos> Flats: and you can't write to it as root?
[08:38] <Flats> Disk /dev/sdb: 8000 MB, 8000004096 bytes
[08:38] <Flats> 247 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1020 cylinders
[08:38] <Flats> Units = cylinders of 15314 * 512 = 7840768 bytes
[08:38] <Flats> This doesn't look like a partition table
[08:38] <Flats> Probably you selected the wrong device.
[08:38] <Flats>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[08:38] <bdragonmsl> anyone know of a good tutorial on getting compiz and glx running on nvidia?
[08:38] <thee> !nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:38] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-legacy: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.7184+2.6.17.5-11 (edgy), package size 2998 kB, installed size 9832 kB
[08:38] <elesair> hi, just installed edgy and im having some ATI problems
[08:39] <afief> How can i setup a linux box to be  a gateway for other boxes?
[08:39] <ashzilla> how can I find out what linux kernel headers I need after updating to edgy
[08:39] <apokryphos> ashzilla: /msg ubotu headers
[08:39] <elesair> can anyone help?
[08:39] <apokryphos> !helpme
[08:39] <thee> bdragonmsl http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[08:39] <gilnim> elesair:
[08:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:39] <Flats> Whoops
[08:39] <Flats> sorry bout that
[08:39] <gilnim> elesair: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[08:39] <apokryphos> !pastebin | flats
[08:39] <ubotu> flats: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:39] <maxb_at_work> After much confusion, I've finally tracked down my mysterious JVM crashes to be linked to the version of libapr0. Bizarrely, -4ubuntu2.1 works, and -4ubuntu4 does not. The upstream version has not changed. Where can I sensibly go to report this, since it is unclear what has the bug?
[08:40] <dabaR> lukketto: /msg ubotu fixres
[08:40] <apokryphos> Flats: try putting something like this in your fstab: /dev/sda1            /test                ext2       defaults              1 2
[08:40] <apokryphos> Flats: and then sudo mount -a
[08:40] <Blacken[Class] > I just reinstalled Kubuntu Edgy and am reinstalling VMware Server. I get this error: /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2). It worked fine in Dapper. Anyone have any idea why that's occurring?
[08:40] <gopp> ubotu fixres
[08:40] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:40] <test_> I've got  a problem with dist-upgrade on my dapper... Apt-get doesnt see any dist-upgrades, update-manager sees 6.10.. It downloads 2 unknow files and update-manager closes and outputs erros... please help ;)
[08:41] <apokryphos> test_: please see the topic link for ugprading
[08:41] <ashzilla> when I'm in irssi
[08:41] <ashzilla> how can I simply close one window
[08:41] <gilnim> test_: what errors
[08:41] <apokryphos> ashzilla: /part
[08:41] <dabaR> ashzilla: if it is a chat window, /win c
[08:41] <kiwipoo> hi; anyone have probs with their swap partition not getting loaded on boot?
[08:41] <ashzilla> dabaR: thanks
[08:42] <apokryphos> kiwipoo: nope; do you have an entry in your fstab?
[08:42] <Flats> It's a bad ext2 filesystem
[08:42] <Flats> what should I try
[08:42] <ashzilla> apokryphos: I was looking to close a query, not leave a channel. Thanks, though
[08:42] <Flats> vfat
[08:42] <Flats> or ext3
[08:42] <apokryphos> Flats: it's bad or is it *not* an ext2 partition?
[08:42] <dabaR> Flats: sudo fdisk -l and see what the file system type
[08:42] <apokryphos> wouldn't make sense though, since fdisk said it was ext2
[08:43] <bdragonmsl> has anyone used the new ubuntu?
[08:43] <Loof> Can I upgrade to 6.10 (from 6.x) internally... via aptitude, etc?
[08:43] <Tjoels> I don't get any sound when playing flash in firefox 2. in dapper (and firefox 1.5) i had the same problems, but then i did the alsa fix, but even when i make sure it uses the alsa stuff, theres no sound in firefox 2.
[08:43] <Flats> hmm the device syas sda1
[08:43] <kiwipoo> yes, It just doesn't seem to be loading, not even mentioned in dmesg
[08:43] <Flats> and a type of linux
[08:43] <mamzers555> somebody has a bluetooth-mouse working with edgy
[08:43] <Flats>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[08:43] <Flats> /dev/sda1               1        2226    17880313+  83  Linux
[08:43] <MasseR> Hmm... I can reproduce the error. If I try to scp files over lan (100mbit/s) the broadcom goes haywire. If I download from internet (10mbit/s) I get no errors
[08:44] <RawSewage> whats the name of that app that sits in the taskbar.  icon is 3 color circles.  you click it and it shows how much space you have on all your drives
[08:44] <Xeph> HELP! I tried dist-upgrade'ing to Edgy and it got stuck. I had a "relocation error" message and it had something to do with glibc "dl_out_of_memory" is the error. I can't boot into my machine anymore, the kernel panics on the same error!
[08:44] <dabaR> Flats: sudo umount /test;sudo mount /dev/sda1 /test -ousers -text2
[08:44] <RawSewage> fdisk?
[08:44] <apokryphos> Flats: ah, so it's ext3
[08:44] <apokryphos> RawSewage: man fdisk
[08:45] <ehird> Hi, using nano how can i make it write to a new file? right now it complains about it not existing
[08:45] <RawSewage> apokryphos, ugh. thats not it
[08:45] <MasseR> ehird: Just open a file that's nonexistent
[08:45] <MasseR> And save
[08:45] <RawSewage> I cant remember what it's called
[08:45] <gopp> subd I got this other error http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg: Temporary failure resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org'
[08:45] <rmd_> is there a way to make the gnome panel allow windows to obscure it?  i've looked around and can't find an option
[08:45] <ehird> MasseR: but i've already pasted it into nano, then again i guess i can just paste it again :) thanks
[08:45] <ashzilla> I cannot log in when I start regularly, when I try to log in a window comes up that says "System will shutdown in One minute" then says to enter my username in the correct case: what the hell happened and how do I fix it - this was after updating to edgy
[08:45] <apokryphos> RawSewage: not sure of the app but df -h does the job
[08:46] <Flats>  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[08:46] <Flats>        missing codepage or other error
[08:46] <dabaR> Flats: sudo umount /test;sudo mount /dev/sda1 /test -ousers -text3
[08:46] <BrightEyes`> How can i format a partition with ubuntu making it win32 (vfat) ?
[08:46] <ehird> MasseR: hmm, it complains still
[08:46] <dabaR> rmd_: to make it auto hide is possible
[08:46] <rmd_> dabaR: yeah... but I wanted to avoid that if possible
[08:46] <squidly> hello, ive got a problem with my ubuntu install. i need to change the screen resolution and to do that I need to boot to runlevel 3, how can I tell the boot scripts to do that?
[08:46] <apokryphos> dabaR: you should probably have a -t ext3 in there
[08:47] <jwl007> how do i find my wireless pcmcia card's chipset?
[08:47] <lesshaste> anyone here ever got sphinx speech to text to work?
[08:47] <apokryphos> dabaR: oh wait, you do, but didn' thave the space
[08:47] <Renan_s2> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu 6.10, but it gets stuck at the point of selecting the partitions, it tells me that I have not selected a root partition, even though I have selected one! Any ideas?
[08:47] <squidly> jwl007 try this lspci -v
[08:47] <ehird> Renan_s2: seems i wasn't the only one with that problem ;) personally i had to delete the linux partition and make it again within the installer
[08:47] <johoja> hey i have a bit of a problem with edgy.
[08:47] <Flats> same error
[08:48] <dabaR> Renan_s2: with the live desktop cd?
[08:48] <Renan_s2> dabaR: yes
[08:48] <dabaR> Flats: sudo umount /test;sudo mount /dev/sda1 /test -ousers
[08:48] <johoja> can anyone help me out ?
[08:48] <DShepherd> ehird: livecd?
[08:48] <Flats> do I need to issue the umount if it never mounted?
[08:48] <Sugar^> Smooth upgrade _=
[08:48] <dabaR> Renan_s2: try the alternate CD:P back to the downloads...
[08:48] <dabaR> Flats: no
[08:48] <DShepherd> Flats: no.. not if it is mounted
[08:48] <Renan_s2> dabaR: I will try
[08:48] <Flats> says you must specify the filesystem
[08:49] <johoja> my logitech bluetooth dongle does'nt work on start up well it does for a fwe seconds then it 'freezes' and i have to unplug and plug it back in , (the dongles for the keyboard/mouse)
[08:49] <johoja> i even tried doing a new kernel with the bluez-mh patches.
[08:50] <RawSewage> apokryphos, Oh, I think it's part of kdf
[08:50] <dabaR> damn...
[08:50] <boson_> How do I add .bdf fonts?
[08:50] <ehird> any help for my nano question?
[08:50] <dabaR> Flats: is that all the partitions that fdisk -l lists? only /dev/sda1?
[08:50] <tomz> hi
[08:50] <jwl007> ubotu are you a robot
[08:50] <tomz> how i can see a NTFS partition?
[08:51] <johoja> anyone ?
[08:51] <bdragonmsl> anyone having issues with firefox?
[08:51] <mamzers555> jwl007, yes it is a bot
[08:51] <dabaR> tomz: sudo fdisk -l, and post the output of that to pastebin. where do you want to mount it?
[08:51] <bdragonmsl> especially with adblock filterset updater?
[08:51] <thee> jwl007: yes uBOTu is a robot
[08:51] <squidly> bdragonmsl: nope but then i dont use it
[08:51] <squidly> lol the name kinda gives it away thee
[08:51] <tomz> dabaR: is a slave disk, in ide1... i have some important files in that disk...
[08:51] <jwl007> ugh, it was supposed to respond to that, yes i know its a bot :P
[08:52] <tomz> i want to mount it in ubuntu...
[08:52] <rixxon> no way! update-manager failed and stopped when almost finished
[08:52] <squidly> tomz: read only i'm assueming
[08:52] <rixxon> geez now nothing is working
[08:52] <diminthedam> hello, how do i change file permission on an ftp server?
[08:52] <squidly> mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windoze
[08:52] <dabaR> tomz: sudo fdisk -l in a terminal will show you all the drives, post the output of that command to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:52] <squidly> try that
[08:52] <Sugarat> vlc is missing from the synaptic package manager.. I'm new to Ubuntu, am I doing something wrong ?
[08:52] <bdragonmsl> Firefox keeps booting up with it and then closes out.  The only thing I can assume is that the filterset is to blame since it's the last thing to load up.
[08:53] <johoja> Sugarat: you might have ot add soem reps.
[08:53] <boson_> Does anyone know how I would add fonts with a .bdf extension?
[08:53] <johoja> can someone help me out with my bluetooth problem?
[08:53] <Sugarat> johoja: Such as which ?
[08:53] <DigitalNinja> Will ubuntu work with an Intell 64 bit procesor?
[08:53] <dabaR> !vlc
[08:53] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:53] <squidly> yes
[08:53] <boson_> Digital: yes
[08:53] <dabaR> !info vlc
[08:53] <johoja> Sugarat: you oculd use automatix
[08:53] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[08:53] <afief> How can i convert an Xvid AVI into a DVD?
[08:53] <DigitalNinja> boson: Do I need to do anything special?
[08:53] <Sugarat> I did. It doesnt work
[08:53] <mamzers555> Sugarat, start synaptic and enable extra repos
[08:53] <squidly> DigitalNinja: i have it working on both intel xeon 64's and amd opterion's
[08:53] <dabaR> Sugarat: add universe
[08:53] <Pierre> DigitalNinja, yes
[08:53] <jwl007> !info are you a robot
[08:53] <Sugarat> I have universe ticked already.
[08:54] <dabaR> jwl007: he is
[08:54] <squidly> DigitalNinja: what installer are you using?
[08:54] <boson_> DigitalNinja: Yes, you need to install the smp kernel
[08:54] <thee> Sugarat: sudo apt-get update
[08:54] <squidly> you should be able to use the x86 or the 64-bit one
[08:54] <Sugarat> Automatix gives an error
[08:54] <squidly> that as well
[08:54] <WooD> any of you had the problem with the cd 6.10 i/o error boot ?
[08:54] <johoja> Sugarat: did you try the edgy version ?
[08:54] <johoja> are you running edyg ?
[08:54] <dabaR> Sugarat: open a terminal, run cat /etc/apt/sources.list and post the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:54] <Sugarat> yes
[08:54] <johoja> hrm.
[08:54] <afief> How can i convert an Xvid AVI into a DVD?
[08:55] <johoja> dabaR, can you hlep me out with my bluetotth issue ?
[08:55] <DigitalNinja> squidly: The live dapper CD. I also have server and alternitve
[08:55] <tomz> how i can get the root user?
[08:55] <jwl007> !info hwdb
[08:55] <mamzers555> Sugarat, just click reload in synaptic
[08:55] <ubotu> Package hwdb does not exist in any distro I know
[08:55] <Sugarat> ah perhaps automatix didnt update the sources properly, this update is taking longer...
[08:55] <boson_> DigitalNinja: Does it install normally?
[08:55] <DigitalNinja> squidly: I don't have a 64 bit Intell box yet but I'm going to get one if it works
[08:55] <meat`2> can someone explain how i get "permission denied" when i use command line ftp but i can surf the directories fine using a gui app?
[08:55] <dabaR> johoja: no
[08:55] <WooD> Cant upgrade to Edgy and cant boot from the 6.10 live cd ... when I chosse start ubuntu from the cd i have the error I/O error
[08:55] <squidly> DigitalNinja: dont bother trying to get a 64bit install working if you dont have a 64bit cpu!
[08:55] <thee> tomz: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:55] <boson_> DigitalNinja: Then once you get the box, install Ubuntu, then install the smp/686 kernel
[08:56] <dabaR> tomz: did you mount the windows drive?
[08:56] <DigitalNinja> boson_: Do I get a 64 bit OS?
[08:56] <squidly> and also DigitalNinja please dont /msg me with out asking
[08:56] <boson_> You get a 64 bit kernel, so yes
[08:56] <squidly> yep
[08:56] <squidly> but you cant use 64-bit with a 32-bit processor
[08:56] <ehird> i wish i could grep gaim's logs, so i dunno if anyone aswered my nano question
[08:56] <ehird> *answered
[08:56] <raknam> i was wondering if i could do a full install of ubuntu (not through vmware) on my laptop without a cd rom?
[08:57] <xenakis> !cups
[08:57] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:57] <squidly> its like trying to fit a gallon of op in a 16oz glass
[08:57] <DigitalNinja> got to run
[08:57] <DigitalNinja> Thanks
[08:57] <Sugarat> automatix is working now I updated the sources manually. thanks all.
[08:57] <boson_> Does anyone know how I add fonts with a .bcf extension?
[08:57] <squidly> ehird: what is your nano question?
[08:57] <mabreaux> does anyone know when read/write support for windows will be implamented?
[08:57] <dabaR> ehird: I wish people would not send messages like that to the channel so that the text would scroll slower and everyone could find what they are looking for in the channel
[08:57] <gopp> k how do I fix this eror
[08:57] <gopp> subd I got this other error http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg: Temporary failure resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org'
[08:57] <squidly> mabreaux: its in the kernel
[08:57] <dabaR> gopp: plf has no more ubuntu repos
[08:57] <moo^min> hi
[08:57] <ehird> squidly: how do i save to a file that doesn't exist? i've tried saving to it and loading the file but it still complains
[08:57] <boson_> squidly: in which one?
[08:58] <gopp> debar so do I delte that from the source list
[08:58] <mabreaux> in edgy/
[08:58] <dabaR> gopp: yes
[08:58] <boson_> awesome! using ntfsprogs?
[08:58] <mamzers555> somebody have knowledge about bluez-utils in edgy?
[08:58] <squidly> what exacly does it say ehird ?
[08:58] <squidly> try ctrl-w and then make the the name
[08:58] <Paddy_EIRE> which firefox plugin would be considered the best for watching streaming video
[08:58] <mamzers555> !bluez-utils
[08:58] <ubotu> bluez-utils: Bluetooth tools and daemons. In component main, is optional. Version 3.7-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 788 kB
[08:58] <blind> Friend of mine is trying to mount his SATA NTFS harddrive, I told him to issue `sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk1 -t ntfs` and it tells him `wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1` --how can i get this drive mounted?
[08:58] <pianoboy3333> Is edgy officially out?
[08:58] <ehird> squidly: "error writing [file]  no such file or directory"
[08:58] <gopp> is thier a new version of ubuntu that just came out
[08:58] <ehird> pianoboy3333: yes
[08:58] <ehird> gopp: yes
[08:58] <pianoboy3333> oh, kool
[08:59] <ehird> !edgy
[08:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[08:59] <babwe2> evening all
[08:59] <jwl007> !hwdb
[08:59] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Hardware Database can be found at http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/
[08:59] <jwl007> !are you a robot?
[08:59] <squidly> ehird: can you get me a screen shot of the error?
[08:59] <jwl007> bah
[08:59] <babwe2> is there a vob merger in linux
[08:59] <raknam> is there no way to install ubuntu without the cdrom? i thought if extracting the ISO to a partition and having my computer boot from there, will that work?
[08:59] <bkjones> if I click the install icon from the livecd, is that the same installation routine as if I boot to the installer? I'm trying to install edgy in a vm on a mac and I can't seem to send an "F1" at the boot prompt.
[08:59] <dabaR> blind: sudo fdisk -l and then see the device node from there
[08:59] <ehird> squidly: maybe its because the parent directory doesn't exist
[08:59] <squidly> ehird: that could be it
[09:00] <ehird> i'm trying to save it to a file in /home/ehird/purchases, where /purchases doesn't exist
[09:00] <ehird> would be nice to get it to auto-make the dir but i guess i can do it
[09:00] <s_> hello
[09:00] <Roger_The_Bum> okay thanks
[09:00] <squidly> well /purchased soes not
[09:00] <blind> dabaR: that only returns a /dev/sdb1 with system type `linux`
[09:00] <squidly> try ~/purchases
[09:00] <squidly> that would kill it
[09:00] <tomz> dabaR: there is a way to view all files in the disk with ntfs?
[09:00] <bdragonmsl> what's the best way to remove extensions from firefox if it will not load?
[09:00] <squidly> lol Roger_The_Bum
[09:00] <shinmen> Why all of the ISO files have .jigdo, except for the desktop ones?
[09:00] <dabaR> blind: well, then that is it
[09:00] <vorbote> !jigdo
[09:00] <moo^min> anyone ahve a torrent link?
[09:00] <ChrisCox> Hey everyone. i need help with connecting dapper to a router using wired connection. Anyone willing to offer ideas?
[09:00] <ubotu> jigdo: GTK+ download manager (beta version). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.3-1 (edgy), package size 187 kB, installed size 440 kB
[09:00] <gopp> ehird yes thier a new verison when did it come out, and should I upgrade
[09:01] <vorbote> !jigdo-file
[09:01] <ubotu> jigdo-file: Download Debian CD images from any Debian mirror. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.3-1 (edgy), package size 206 kB, installed size 584 kB
[09:01] <gopp> hmm software updates didn't ask me to update the distro
[09:01] <squidly> ChrisCox: use tcp and cat-5e cables
[09:01] <Roger_The_Bum> ChrisCox: ethernet
[09:01] <dabaR> tomz: did you mount the disk?
[09:01] <s_> I'm having problems creating a Home shortcut in the desktop
[09:01] <dabaR> !torrents
[09:01] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Edgy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[09:01] <Master_> So, I'm running apt-get dist-upgrade from the commande line, I'm not getting the eft update.
[09:01] <Roger_The_Bum> yeah same
[09:01] <dabaR> Master_: did you change the sources.list file?
[09:01] <s_> try aptitude
[09:01] <moo^min> tis fine found an alternative
[09:01] <ChrisCox> squidly and Roger_The_Bum, i have the cables hooked up, i've tried configuring the ethernet but it just wont work
[09:01] <Roger_The_Bum> all I got was a postgreSQL update
[09:01] <Master_> dabaR, what do I need to add?
[09:02] <dabaR> Master_: did you read the topic when you came in?
[09:02] <Roger_The_Bum> ChrisCox: use dhcp
[09:02] <squidly> ugg postgres.. that server is a PAIN IMHO
[09:02] <Master_> Nope, I've been in here for a while.
[09:02] <ChrisCox> Roger_The_Bum: Tried and failed
[09:02] <dabaR> Master_: read the upgrades page...
[09:02] <squidly> chriss try this.. go to a command prompt and type ifconfig
[09:02] <Roger_The_Bum> ChrisCox: what's your router's model number
[09:02] <bkjones> if I click the install icon from the livecd, is that the same installation routine as if I boot to the installer? I'm trying to install edgy in a vm on a mac and I can't seem to send an "F1" at the boot prompt.
[09:02] <Roger_The_Bum> bkjones: yes
[09:02] <Flats> Ok Whats the best way to format this sda drive to make sure it's usable?  Just fdisk?
[09:02] <bkjones> thanks
[09:03] <ehird> i <3 ubuntu :D
[09:03] <Roger_The_Bum> bkjones: that's the miracle of progress
[09:03] <Roger_The_Bum> :D
[09:03] <squidly> Flats: that or dd if you wanna whipe out the drive
[09:03] <bkjones> Roger_The_Bum: not so fast....
[09:03] <ChrisCox> squidly: i get loads of random info
[09:03] <Flats> I wanna wipe
[09:03] <squidly> ChrisCox: its not random trust me
[09:03] <jwl007> ahh im not in the sudoers file.. this incident will be reported
[09:03] <squidly> can you c&p it to me in a message
[09:03] <haakonn> hi guys, i've just upgraded to ubuntu, and x doesn't come up. startx says: "(EE) module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1) / Failed to load module "nv" (module requirement mismatch, 0)". what have i done wrong? i followed the upgrade instructions
[09:03] <squidly> look for the ip address.
[09:03] <bkjones> there's nothing in the install saying "I found this video card, is this the right model and resolution?"
[09:04] <thee> s_ : run gconf-editor. apps->nautilus->desktop. check home_icon_visible
[09:04] <bkjones> does something like that exist?
[09:04] <bkjones> for ubuntu?
[09:04] <Roger_The_Bum> ChrisCox: acutally use that pastebox thing
[09:04] <squidly> also just for s&g's do you have link lights on your computer and and router
[09:04] <bkjones> ;-)
[09:04] <boson_> bkjones: no
[09:04] <JoseStefan> haakonn, try installing package "linux-386"
[09:04] <gopp> is thier a mouse key feature in ubuntu
[09:04] <ChrisCox> Roger_The_Bum: What are you on about
[09:04] <Flats> I type dd nothing happens
[09:04] <YogSothoth> Hi
[09:04] <squidly> Flats: man dd
[09:04] <Roger_The_Bum> ChrisCox: Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org//
[09:04] <xzk> for some reason when I installed the new version of Ubuntu last night... my new version doesn't work.. and it gives me some error about the XORG ?
[09:04] <Roger_The_Bum> from the topic
[09:04] <ChrisCox> Roger_The_Bum: Paste what to there?
[09:04] <squidly> if you wanna whipe the drive dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hd##
[09:05] <squidly> the results of ifconfig
[09:05] <xzk> anybody know what that means
[09:05] <haakonn> JoseStefan:  done, but same error
[09:05] <ashzilla> I cannot log in when I start regularly, when I try to log in a window comes up that says "System will shutdown in One minute" then says to enter my username in the correct case: what the hell happened and how do I fix it - this was after updating to edgy
[09:05] <Roger_The_Bum> xzk: probably a video card error
[09:05] <dabaR> xzk: that most certainly was not a question, so why put the ? at the end? What is the error, what graphics card do you have, have you installed the drivers...
[09:05] <Stormx2> what is MythTV?
[09:05] <sc0tt> ola aluno :)
[09:05] <squidly> xzk: 10-1 its not likeing your vidcard
[09:05] <squidly> mythtv is a open source version of tivo
[09:05] <gopp> pvr system Stormx2
[09:05] <blind> what filesystem format is represented by "linux" in fdisk -l  ?
[09:05] <xzk> :(... the last version liked it
[09:05] <aluno> sc0tt, ola
[09:05] <sc0tt> :D
[09:06] <YogSothoth> I just upgraded to Edgy. Now the xserver crashes when the system wants to go to screensaving or something related to power saving. I can't deactivate it: when I try to open the screensaver app, it crashes. Is this a known bug? How can I disable the screensaver using GNOME conf?
[09:06] <ChrisCox> squidly: I cant. The computer i'm on is windows and has the connection set up. The comp with dapper on it is my laptop. Diff comps ^.^
[09:06] <xzk> the last version of Ubuntu was best friends with my video card!
[09:06] <squidly> damn i'm not at my linux box
[09:06] <rixxon> great, edgy broke my Xorg
[09:06] <Roger_The_Bum> blind: probably ext3
[09:06] <xzk> rixxon, me too
[09:06] <Master_> Bah, dpkg --configure -a takes FOREVER.
[09:06] <JoseStefan> haakonn, try installing packages: xserver-xorg-driver-all    xserver-xorg-input-all
[09:06] <Master_> Is it really necessary?
[09:06] <s_> please i need some help
[09:06] <rixxon> xzk: got a solution?
[09:06] <blind> Roger_The_Bum: that's what I thought, but it told my friend wrong fs type... :|
[09:06] <xzk> i just came in here right before you did :(
[09:06] <squidly> do you see anything about ip addresses?
[09:06] <MasseR> Is there a way to transfer files between 2 linux-systems (in lan) without using ssh or ftp or other system that takes long to configure
[09:07] <xzk> rixxon: lets try to figure this out
[09:07] <MasseR> (Going to test if it has to do with ssh or speed)
[09:07] <rixxon> xzk: heh. irssi on tty1 :D
[09:07] <gopp> MasseR email
[09:07] <ashzilla> I cannot log in when I start regularly, when I try to log in a window comes up that says "System will shutdown in One minute" then says to enter my username in the correct case: what the hell happened and how do I fix it - this was after updating to edgy
[09:07] <Roger_The_Bum> blind: ext2 or reiser
[09:07] <xzk> rixxon: what? lol I'm a noob
[09:07] <squidly> ext2? eww!!
[09:07] <dabaR> MasseR: floppy disk
[09:07] <finalbeta> How do I make the location bar from nautilus use text? So I don't have to control-L all the time, can't find the option in edgy.
[09:07] <ChrisCox> squidly: Put my name before your text to me. I see it easier because its bold
[09:07] <rixxon> xzk: i'm ircing without Xorg, that's all :p
[09:07] <Quibus> Congratulations on the release, Unbutu folks :-)
[09:07] <ashzilla> rixxon: what's tty1? tty? ect
[09:07] <Zaggynl> terminal 1
[09:07] <squidly> ChrisCox: i will try this is one hella busy channel!
[09:07] <xzk> rixxon: oh, I booted to winXP when it wouldn't work
[09:07] <MasseR> Is there a way to transfer files between 2 linux-systems (in lan) without using ssh or ftp or other system that takes long to configure. Trying to debug eth0 ^^'
[09:07] <rixxon> ashzilla: ctrl+alt+f1 etc
[09:07] <exclude> anyone else having issues with xorg (seems like an ATI issue) after the upgrade?
[09:07] <ChrisCox> squidly: Lol
[09:08] <Roger_The_Bum> ashzilla: text only
[09:08] <thee> s_: press Alt+F2.type in gconf-editor... apps->nautilus->desktop. check home_icon_visible
[09:08] <haakonn> JoseStefan:  xserver-xorg-driver-all has no install candidate, and input-all is installed
[09:08] <boson_> MasseR: scp
[09:08] <MasseR> boson_: That would be ssh
[09:08] <xzk> exclude: it's an NVIDIA issue as well
[09:08] <MasseR> Secure copy
[09:08] <squidly> MasseR: serial console ^^
[09:08] <Flats> thats the other question I have .  If I run the lshw -class I have a disk of /dev/sda and a volume of /dev/sda1.  Which one am I dd'ing?
[09:08] <rixxon> xzk: aha, well this way i can do stuff while chatting
[09:08] <ehird> question: what's a very stable and fast filesystem for storing music? i don't need windoze compatibility, just stability and speed
[09:08] <ChrisCox> squidly: Yes there is something about ip addresses
[09:08] <JoseStefan> haakonn, sorry: xserver-xorg-video-all
[09:08] <sc0tt> ehird: i like reiser
[09:08] <Quibus> someone seen "sh"?
[09:08] <Zaggynl> So, hows the edgy release doing? any major known problems popped up?
[09:08] <squidly> ChrisCox: what does it say? and do you ahve link lights on your router?
[09:08] <rixxon> Zaggynl: it broke my Xorg :@
[09:08] <boson_> MasseR: If you're using ubuntu, try using the file browser and add a connection, you'll be able to treat it as a folder, and it'll use ssh
[09:08] <xzk> zaggynl: yes, xorg :(
[09:08] <ashzilla> I cannot log in when I start regularly, when I try to log in a window comes up that says "System will shutdown in One minute" then says to enter my username in the correct case: what the hell happened and how do I fix it - this was after updating to edgy
[09:08] <Roger_The_Bum> Zaggynl: 2 people here have xorg probs
[09:08] <Zaggynl> hmm
[09:08] <dabaR> all you guys with xorg issues, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:08] <haakonn> JoseStefan:  installing ... i just use the nv driver though, and that's installed
[09:09] <exclude> ehird: if you need "fast" go for ext2, its the fastest
[09:09] <ChrisCox> squidly: Yes i have link lights on the router and yes they are on
[09:09] <GhostFreeman> What's the command to upgrade to Edgy?
[09:09] <Zaggynl> I just read about edgy on /. an I'm interested, but I think I'll wait a bit
[09:09] <sc0tt> ext3 is faster than 2 isn't it? :o
[09:09] <Roger_The_Bum> GhostFreeman: read the topic
[09:09] <MasseR> boson_: I know, but I don't want to use ssh, the error already occurs with ssh
[09:09] <squidly> ChrisCox: ok but what does it say bout the ip addressing
[09:09] <finalbeta> How do I make the location bar from nautilus use text? So I don't have to control-L all the time, can't find the option in edgy.
[09:09] <MasseR> I'm testing whether it occurs otherwise too
[09:09] <LjL> !upgrade | GhostFreeman
[09:09] <ubotu> GhostFreeman: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[09:09] <Roger_The_Bum> GhostFreeman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[09:09] <JoseStefan> haakonn, meta packages are good during upgrade period, to make sure nothing is left back
[09:09] <finalbeta> sc0tt, sounds unlikly
[09:09] <boson_> MasseR: S<B
[09:09] <GhostFreeman> I got it, thanks
[09:09] <boson_> MasseR: SMB
[09:09] <squidly> sc0tt: yea and its journaled making recovery and check time faster
[09:09] <ChrisCox> squidly: It says about bytes and packets and stuff.
[09:09] <haakonn> JoseStefan:  yeah i guess
[09:09] <Zaggynl> 'gksudo "update-manager -c"' it is I think
[09:09] <sc0tt> :)
[09:09] <Ribs> hey guys... got a fresh text-only edgy install here..
[09:10] <squidly> ChrisCox: does it say ip address at all?
[09:10] <mabreaux> kernal currently does not support writting to a ntfs partion.....  anyone know when this feature will be added?
[09:10] <KeithWeisshar> when will ubuntu be released on dvd
[09:10] <Stork> when trying to install edgy i get this error: http://tinyurl.com/ydudbs .. any ideas?
[09:10] <Ribs> I've just installed mysql, but it refuses to run
[09:10] <boson_> Ribs: grats
[09:10] <Ribs> any ideas?
[09:10] <exclude> ehird: ext3 and reiser have the pro of being safer when recovering, with the additional downside that they are slower
[09:10] <haakonn> JoseStefan:  heh, and it worked, thanks a bunch!
[09:10] <xzk> If I redownload and reinstall Edgy, will it fix the XORG ?
[09:10] <squidly> Ribs: error messages?
[09:10] <Ribs> squidly, 'mysqld got signal 4'
[09:10] <JoseStefan> haakonn, your welcome
[09:10] <ashzilla> I cannot log in when I start regularly, when I try to log in a window comes up that says "System will shutdown in One minute" then says to enter my username in the correct case: what the hell happened and how do I fix it - this was after updating to edgy
[09:10] <KeithWeisshar> i would like to order the ubuntu 6.10 dvd from frozentech.com but they don't have it yet
[09:10] <squidly> exclude: umm.. ive found ext3 to be faster then ext2
[09:10] <Ribs> squidly, then it goes on about possibly being linked to dodgey libraries etc.
[09:10] <dabaR> Ribs: what do you use to try to run it?
[09:10] <ChrisCox> squidly: It says: inet addr:127.0.0.1   Bcast: 127.255.255.255   Mask:255.0.0.0
[09:10] <Roger_The_Bum> KeithWeisshar: http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[09:10] <exclude> squidly: I guess you are the first ever then :)
[09:10] <squidly> Ribs: try to reinstall it
[09:10] <r466er> hi
[09:10] <Ribs> dabaR, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[09:11] <KeithWeisshar> that's for the older version
[09:11] <Ribs> and then mysqld by itself
[09:11] <dabaR> Stork: remove those lines from sources.list plf does not support ubuntu any more
[09:11] <squidly> ChrisCox: what does it say for what you do ifconfig eth0?
[09:11] <Quibus> !seen \sh
[09:11] <ubotu> I haven't seen \sh recently
[09:11] <ericz> so is it recommended to switch to edgy? i thought it was like all new, bleeding edge, possibly unstable, software...
[09:11] <eXistenZ> There is some kind of a bug
[09:11] <Roger_The_Bum> KeithWeisshar: then I don't know when
[09:11] <KeithWeisshar> frozentech is $1.99 plus $.49 shipping for dvd
[09:11] <dabaR> Ribs: how about sudo invoke-rc.d mysql start? and post errors to pastebin so we can read the whole thing
[09:11] <finalbeta> How do I make the location bar from nautilus use text? So I don't have to control-L all the time, can't find the option in edgy.
[09:11] <squidly> Ribs: i would say reinstall it
[09:11] <GhostFreeman> Will I need to reinstall ATI flgrx drivers when this finishes?
[09:11] <r466er> i get the following "error": "bug: soft lockup detected on cpu#0" , i think its a problem with lvm, because the were mounted before...
[09:11] <ChrisCox> squidly: Shows me stats for eth0
[09:11] <Roger_The_Bum> hmm
[09:12] <squidly> ChrisCox: what about the ip address? you gotta help me out here!!
[09:12] <Roger_The_Bum> is it better to  reinstall then upgrade?
[09:12] <boson_> GhostFreeman: Probably not
[09:12] <dabaR> finalbeta: it is in gconf
[09:12] <squidly> ChrisCox: as much as my ex thinks I can read mineds does not make it so!! :D
[09:12] <exclude> GhostFreeman: I am not sure, but I am in here because my ATI did not work any longer after the upgrade :)
[09:12] <ChrisCox> squidly: Its exactly the same as the one i typed earlier
[09:12] <squidly> 127.0.0.1
[09:12] <exclude> right, so, any hints on how to get xorg reconfigured so it actually loads again?
[09:13] <GhostFreeman> has EasyUbuntu/Automatix been updated for the task?
[09:13] <dabaR> GhostFreeman: have you checked their web sites?
[09:13] <LjL> !automatix | GhostFreeman
[09:13] <ubotu> GhostFreeman: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[09:13] <GhostFreeman> no
[09:13] <ChrisCox> squidly: yes
[09:13] <finalbeta> dabaR, so GNOME decided to kill of another feature in the GUI because it considers end users idiots. :( We should have a GNOME non crippled fork/version
[09:13] <dabaR> GhostFreeman: that is a good place to see
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> exclude: Have you already done 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'?
[09:13] <livingtm> how do i know if my ubuntu edgy 64 kernel has video4linux enabled?
[09:13] <GhostFreeman> on a completely unrelated note
[09:13] <shinmen> Why all of the ISO files have .jigdo, except for the desktop ones?
[09:13] <ehird> is there a whatpulse client for ubuntu?
[09:13] <squidly> ChrisCox: you need to get your ip addressing setup right and routing.. i cant help with that for ubuntu as I'm not 100% up on the way they setup networking via the configs
[09:13] <dabaR> finalbeta: talk to the mailing list
[09:13] <exclude> tonyyarusso: yup, did so, but that did not solve the problem
[09:14] <GhostFreeman> is it possible to cancel an upgrade to 6.10 while its running, and restore any lost or overwritten packages?
[09:14] <ChrisCox> squidly: HOW DO I SET THEM UP RIGHT!?!?!
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> exclude: What is the problem, btw?  (Not sure I can help much more than that, but who knows)
[09:14] <Ribs> dabaR, These are the mysql errors: http://pastebin.ca/223097
[09:14] <exclude> tonyyarusso: I guess I made a wrong choice in there too, putting back the original xorg.conf may help though
[09:15] <anders9034> hello again, is there some built in firewall in ubuntu?
[09:15] <tabias> is there a way to install a printer (via a ZOT print server thingie) ?
[09:15] <squidly> ChrisCox: read what I said.. i dont know how ubuntu does the networking yet!
[09:15] <squidly> anders9034: yea ipchains
[09:15] <exclude> tonyyarusso: I am not sure what the problem is, the only hint I could find in the logs was that the ati driver was not found
[09:15] <Ribs> dabaR, oddly, it worked fine the first time I ran it right after an install... but not after I rebooted...
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> exclude: Yeah, if you have a working backup that's a good place to start
[09:15] <squidly> and iptables
[09:15] <dabaR> ChrisCox: what exactly are you trying to set up, what is not working, and what have you tried so far? Please also include references to pastebins with outputs of relevant commands that will allow us to help you.
[09:15] <LjL> !firewall > anders9034
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> exclude: ati driver as in 'ati', or the fglrx binary one?
[09:15] <LjL> !caps > ChrisCox
[09:15] <segfault_> squidly, anders9034 its iptables
[09:15] <squidly> dabaR he just need to configure routering
[09:15] <GhostFreeman> Is it possible to cancel an upgrade to 6.10 while its running, and restore any lost or overwritten packages? I just got back from school to see it failed halfway, and I want to wait until the traffic dies down
[09:15] <ChrisCox> dabaR: I'm trying to set up a simple wired connection to my router
[09:16] <squidly> segfault_: well ipchains is still avaliable :P
[09:16] <boson_> ChrisCox: Is the driver for your card working ok?
[09:16] <anders9034> ok
[09:16] <segfault_> squidly, i thought that support wwasnt int he kernel for that anymore?
[09:16] <dabaR> Ribs: and post output of sudo aptitude search mysql
[09:16] <squidly> segfault_: nope its still there for backwards compatibality
[09:16] <ChrisCox> boson_: What card?
[09:16] <mhamadt> hello i use breezy can you help me ... how to find all file(s) and folder(s) that have chmod 777?
[09:16] <IndyBC> Hello. I upgraded to Edgy Eft, but the system can't boot. Now I am with a live cd. please help
[09:16] <segfault_> squidly, ahhh i see
[09:17] <dabaR> ChrisCox: go on, you never answered more than 50% of my request
[09:17] <ehird> what's the best way to assign a shortcut to the terminal?
[09:17] <boson_> ChrisCox: Network card
[09:17] <jHoNDoE> only dvd via torrent?
[09:17] <ChrisCox> boson_: I'm using wired connection
[09:17] <boson_> ehird: Make a new launcher, name xterm
[09:17] <Ribs> dabaR, http://pastebin.ca/223107
[09:17] <dabaR> ehird: the best way to assign a keyboard shortcut for opening the terminal?
[09:17] <boson_> ChrisCox: I know. You with a network card right? Does the network card work ok?
[09:17] <ChrisCox> dabaR: I've tried DHCP, i've tried static ip address with these details:
[09:17] <Mirro> howto install aiglx on new ubuntu?
[09:17] <Ribs> maybe I should try mysql 4.x ?
[09:18] <FunnyLookinHat> !aiglx
[09:18] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[09:18] <ChrisCox> boson_: No, i'm with a router
[09:18] <dabaR> Ribs: sudo invoke-rc.d mysql restart
[09:18] <LjL> !xgl | Mirro
[09:18] <ubotu> Mirro: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:18] <FunnyLookinHat> !beryl
[09:18] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[09:18] <FunnyLookinHat> there we go
[09:18] <rixxon> Xorg still not starting
[09:18] <boson_> ChrisCox: What kind of plug goes into the back of your computer?
[09:18] <Ribs> dabaR, Stop okay... Start fails again.
[09:18] <tomz> Couldn't mount device '/dev/hda1': Operation not supported
[09:18] <tomz> Windows did not shut down properly.  Try to mount volume in windows, shut down and try again.
[09:18] <ChrisCox> boson_: what do you mean?
[09:18] <dabaR> boson_: what kind do you think if it is connected to a router?
[09:18] <eXistenZ> whenever I move the icons on the gnome panel, the icons turn into a yellow with question mark
[09:18] <finalbeta> dabaR, wich mailing list? The GNOME guys don't like input anyway.
[09:18] <Stork> if i stop apt-get will it recover again when i start it later?
[09:18] <eXistenZ> there is some kind of a bug
[09:19] <Ribs> dabaR, I'm going to give mysql 4.1 a try
[09:19] <rixxon> xzk: did you get it working?
[09:19] <GhostFreeman> is there a channel I can go to get help with Edgy specifically?
[09:19] <boson_> dabaR: I asked him about his network card
[09:19] <boson_> dabaR: To see if it's working
[09:19] <segfault_> GhostFreeman, this is it
[09:19] <Mirro> what should i install, Xgl or AIGLX??
[09:19] <GhostFreeman> ugh
[09:19] <eXistenZ> whenever I move an icon on the gnome panel, it turns into a yellow with question mark
[09:19] <dabaR> boson_: ok, go ahead
[09:19] <lostatc> Hi, When i insert a SD memory card into my Scandisk USB adaptor GNOME pops up with a notice asking if I want to import my photos or ignore it. I always choose ignore. Is there  a way to force Ubuntu's GNOME to remember this?
[09:19] <GhostFreeman> Is it possible to cancel an upgrade to 6.10 while its running, and restore any lost or overwritten packages?
[09:20] <JoseStefan> !msg ubotu burn
[09:20] <boson_> ChrisCox: Do you now if the driver for your network card is working ok?
[09:20] <dabaR> finalbeta: ya, you are right.
[09:20] <tomz> hey.. how i can fix that error?... when i try to mount NTFS partition?
[09:20] <concept10> !upstart
[09:20] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[09:20] <JoseStefan> GhostFreeman, only if it is still downloading, and NOT installing
[09:20] <magnet> GhostFreeman: it depends at what stage it is
[09:20] <Mirro> what should i install, Xgl or AIGLX??  could someone help me?
[09:20] <segfault_> GhostFreeman, if its still downloading pkgs then yes, if its installing, thats a bad idea
[09:20] <cryptonic> how do i make gnome my default gui, its installed but the sysetem boots into kde as default
[09:20] <ChrisCox> boson_: 2 other computers are connecting to the same router... using windows...
[09:20] <GhostFreeman> it says its at "Fetching and Installing"
[09:20] <psi> is there no nvidia-glx package for edgy?
[09:20] <ehird> something's seriously wrong with my python install
[09:20] <dabaR> tomz: what is the command you use to try to mount it?
[09:20] <lupine_85> cry4freedom: dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[09:20] <segfault_> cryptonic, change ur default session in ur login mgr
[09:21] <lupine_85> erm, cryptonic rather
[09:21] <rixxon> edgy broke my X11, dpkg-reconfigure did not fix it, ideas?
[09:21] <dabaR> psi: there is one in restricted
[09:21] <segfault_> rixxon, edit ur xorg.conf file by hand
[09:21] <gopp> does pearpc work in ubuntu
[09:21] <rixxon> segfault_: i wouldn't know how to
[09:21] <boson_> ChrisCox: What does ifconfig output?
[09:21] <JoseStefan> rixxon, any specific errors?
[09:21] <gopp> I did apt-get install pearpc and got installed is this the pearpc for osx
[09:21] <GhostFreeman> it says its at "Fetching and Installing." If its any extra incentive, the 'Terminal' option is greyed out
[09:21] <exclude> tonyyarusso: okay, there you gave me a hint. fglrx == ati(binary)?
[09:22] <abhinay> hi all
[09:22] <segfault_> rixxon, read up on xorg docs, also chk ur log file /var/log/Xorg.log
[09:22] <rixxon> JoseStefan: loads and loads of error dumps
[09:22] <ChrisCox> boson_: It points out that eth0 doesnt send or receive bytes/packets
[09:22] <concept10> How may I start upstart from the command line?  Since changing from Sys V Init to upstart, my system will not boot.  Any suggestions?
[09:22] <gopp> k know I am gettign this error
[09:22] <gopp> w:: Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/pool/dapper/free/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1plf4_i386.deb
[09:22] <gopp>   Temporary failure resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org'
[09:22] <cryptonic> the default login manager is kde, i can access gnome and all but i want it to be my default
[09:22] <psi> dabaR: i have the "Proprietary drivers for devices (restricted)" repo enabled in synaptic (per default)
[09:22] <cartufer> shinobi, u get that thing i sent u?
[09:22] <JoseStefan> rixxon, 1st thing to check is that no pkgs were left behind
[09:22] <ProN00b> can anyone gimme a fast mirror for my sources.list ? the main one is a bit slow for me at the moment
[09:22] <psi> dabaR: is that not it?
[09:22] <boson_> ChrisCox: Does it show an IP address?
[09:22] <eyequeue> rixxon, often, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:22] <sivik_> !serial
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> exclude: fglrx is the binary driver from ATI, yes.  There is also an open source 'ati' driver for ATI cards, that has more limited features but is more stable.
[09:22] <dabaR> psi: that is it, look harder.
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <cartufer> mt
[09:22] <concept10> Its going to be impossuble to get help in here today
[09:22] <ChrisCox> boson_: It has inet address:127.0.0.1
[09:23] <Roey> oh my god.
[09:23] <abhinay> i have downloaded firefox 2 tar.gz file, but, i don't know how to install it firefox 2 ? how to install firefox 2 ?
[09:23] <rixxon> JoseStefan, eyequeue: "Fatal Error: No screens found"
[09:23] <ProN00b> anyone ?
[09:23] <dabaR> concept10: well, what did you do to change from one to the other?
[09:23] <gopp> !firefox
[09:23] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:23] <sivik_> abhinay, after you untar the file, go into the folder, ./configure, make, sude make install
[09:23] <psi> dabaR: ah. an update did it.
[09:23] <boson_> ChrisCox: Try: sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0
[09:23] <eyequeue> abhinay, edgy? dapper?
[09:23] <IndyBC> Please, tell me how to enter Recovery Mode. (I have disabled it from the grub menu) but I think with pressing some button, I can get there. Please help.
[09:23] <boson_> ChrisCox: And tell em what it says
[09:23] <abhinay> eyequeue, dapper
[09:23] <eyequeue> !ff2
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ff2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <eyequeue> !firefox2
[09:23] <dabaR> concept10: upstart is an init process, meaning the first one, so starting it does not make sense here, but I am not an OS expert by a long shot...
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefox2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <Roey> sea of people... jesus
[09:24] <eyequeue> abhinay, i thought there was a factoid on it, sorry
[09:24] <segfault_> IndyBC, add the word single to the grub command from the grub command line when grub starts
[09:24] <ChrisCox> boson_: I just changed eth0 to DHCP and now it is saying Activating interface 'eth0'
[09:24] <JoseStefan> eyequeue, what are you looking for?
[09:24] <dabaR> IndyBC: how did you disable it from the grub menu?
[09:24] <djmccormick> i just installed 6.06.1 TLS and i'm not at home. i'm trying to apt-get install an application and it's saying through the shell to insert the CD. is inserting the CD necessary?
[09:24] <ChrisCox> boson_: And its stuck on that
[09:24] <abhinay> sivik_, there is no file called configure in it
[09:24] <Ribs> dabaR, I've found the bug now: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.0/+bug/66702
[09:24] <boson_> Can we put something in the topic to NOT use the !stuff in channel?
[09:24] <concept10> dabaR:  I had a working Edgy system for days, and I did a apt-get install upstart... of course that uninstalls sys v init
[09:24] <boson_> ChrisCox: How long?
[09:24] <eyequeue> JoseStefan, a firefox2-on-dapper factoid for him
[09:24] <cryptonic> has the update repositories for edgy ubuntu changed since it went out off beta?
[09:24] <dabaR> djmccormick: comment out the cd line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:24] <ChrisCox> boson_: Just under a min now
[09:24] <segfault_> djmccormick, no remove the cd line from ur sources.list
[09:24] <JoseStefan> !info firefox dapper
[09:24] <concept10> dabaRand now it will not boot
[09:24] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7739 kB, installed size 22928 kB
[09:24] <ChrisCox> boson_: Its gones
 i just installed 6.06.1 TLS and i'm not at home. i'm trying to apt-get install an application and it's saying through the shell to insert the CD. is inserting the CD necessary? <== you can add the online repositories and remove the cd repository in your synaptic setup :-)
[09:24] <Sugarat> Do I need to do anything else to mount an NFS drive? I've entered it into /etc/fstab but when mounting the console just sits there
[09:25] <dabaR> concept10: isn't upstart the default on edgy?
[09:25] <eyequeue> cryptonic, last was maybe 30 hours ago, i think
[09:25] <gopp> why do I get this   error
[09:25] <gopp> w:: Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/pool/dapper/free/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1plf4_i386.deb
[09:25] <DekKeD> cryptonic: I didn't get updates in the last day or two
[09:25] <ProN00b> can anyone gimme a fast mirror for my sources.list ? the main one is a bit slow for me at the moment
[09:25] <gopp>   Temporary failure resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org'
[09:25] <boson_> ChrisCox: gones?
[09:25] <ChrisCox> boson_: Now closing networking screen
[09:25] <segfault_> Sugarat, portmap
[09:25] <eyequeue> cryptonic, give or take
[09:25] <ChrisCox> boson_: Sorry, gone
[09:25] <sivik_> Lunar_Lamp, you have to go into the /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the cd and uncomment all the repos
[09:25] <concept10> dabaR- thats what I thought.  It wasnt installed with my dist-upgrade
[09:25] <dabaR> gopp: remove the plf repository from your sources.list then reload the package list
[09:25] <Lunar_Lamp> ProN00b, that's probably because loads of people are hammering the servers to install edgy :-)
[09:25] <cryptonic> so it didnt update to the one since beta releases?
[09:25] <dabaR> concept10: no idea
[09:25] <ehird> rm -rf is a powerful thing :)
[09:25] <gopp> concept10 where do I click reload
[09:25] <eXistenZ> dabaR, Are you yet on edgy?
[09:25] <rixxon> eyequeue: what can i do if i get "no screens found"?
[09:26] <dabaR> eXistenZ: no
[09:26] <Slike> hello, got a little problem: i'm running vmware server on my ubuntu machine and i want to go to tty2 in my virtual suse install, but these keystrokes infect my ubuntu's x-server, not the virtual one...and changing these key settings in the vmware options doesn't do to much
[09:26] <boson_> ChrisCox: If you run ifconfig in your terminal, what does it list for HWAddr?
[09:26] <dabaR> and i will not upgrade, I will use dapper for the next 5 years.
[09:26] <eXistenZ> Anyone on edgy here?
[09:26] <djmccormick> thanks for the tip, guys. i appreciate it :)
[09:26] <ehird> any ideas how i can get a resolution above 1024/768? :/
[09:26] <dabaR> djmccormick: cheers
[09:26] <ProN00b> Lunar_Lamp, i know, but i am using the main one, and that is especially slow, so i was asking if anyone knew a faster one
[09:26] <sivik_> eXistenZ, i'm willing to bet most everyone here is in edgy, whats the problem?
[09:26] <d-E-u-S> when i shut down my xubuntu then turn the hdd off but the pc is still on, what can i do?
[09:26] <JoseStefan> !fixres > ehird
[09:26] <IndyBC> dabaR, the problem is that I can't boot from hard drive. I cam from live cd now
[09:26] <eyequeue> rixxon, i'm not x guru, but i usually see people dpkg-reconfigure to solve that
[09:26] <mabreaux> upgrade went very smooth for me
[09:26] <ProN00b> can anyone gimme a fast mirror for my sources.list ? the main one is a bit slow for me at the moment
[09:26] <Sugarat> How do I mount an nfs drive properly in Ubuntu ?
[09:27] <rixxon> eyequeue: i tried that without effect.. oh well
[09:27] <sivik_> ProN00b, their all going to be slow
[09:27] <ehird> got it, where's my xorg.conf file?
[09:27] <segfault_> ProN00b, mirrors are on the site, they are likely all slow today
[09:27] <dabaR> IndyBC: and why do you want to boot in single user mode?
 upgrade went very smooth for me <== dapper>edgy? what kind of things should i be cautious of?
[09:27] <sivik_> Sugarat, you have to read through the man mount to find the number or argument for ntfs
[09:27] <JoseStefan> rixxon, since you just upgraded, make sure no pkgs were left behing during upgrade
[09:27] <dabaR> !ntfs
[09:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:27] <gopp> dabaR how do I reload it
[09:27] <sivik_> ehird: /etc/X11
[09:27] <dabaR> gopp: sudo aptitude update
[09:27] <ProN00b> sivik_, segfault_, well, i am getting like 6kb/s there must be faster ones
[09:27] <IndyBC> dabaR, I want to boot from recovery mode, because X server crashes
[09:27] <Sugarat> sivik_: Have done,  when I try to mount it just sits there
[09:27] <Sugarat> Any services to start ?
[09:27] <segfault_> ProN00b, well try others then
[09:27] <jme_> oh boy, 18 k/s on the dist-upgrade
[09:27] <JoseStefan> rixxon, install: ubuntu-desktop
 sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:28] <thee> ehird: in terminal type locate xorg.conf
[09:28] <dabaR> IndyBC: and why not just use the session you are given when the x server crashes?
[09:28] <rwscold> hey guys i am doing a distro upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 from wthin the os and its taking forever is there any way to stop it so i can download the altrenate cd?
[09:28] <ProN00b> segfault_, but i don't have no others, i am asking for one
[09:28] <IndyBC> dabaR, I am not given any session
[09:28] <segfault_> ProN00b, read the ubuntu site they are listed there
[09:28] <eXistenZ> sivik_, Whenever I move an icon in the gnome panel it turns into a yellow one with a question mark inside. Can you try that?
[09:28] <Sugarat> ah I think I need to sudo apt-get install portmap nfs-common
[09:28] <ChrisCox> boson_: 00:40:D0:1E:9D:2A
[09:28] <eyequeue> rwscold, frankly, andything involving the mirrors will be slow as molasses today
[09:28] <thee> rwscold: force quit
[09:28] <dabaR> IndyBC: what happens, then? X is just the sprinkle on top, if x is all that fails, you still get a working system
[09:28] <rwscold> well i have the live cd
[09:28] <eyequeue> rwscold, ^C will abort though
[09:29] <rwscold> but it wont boot for some reason
[09:29] <boson_> ChrisCox: Try assigning a manual IP and pinging the router. Pick an IP that you would have on one of your windows systems
[09:29] <disasm> any fluxbox users here? I got everything working now except alpha transparency, both fluxbox and X are configure with RENDER enabled
[09:29] <ChrisCox> boson_: How?
[09:29] <dabaR> !nfs
[09:29] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[09:29] <IndyBC> dabaR, the crash of X, makes the whole system not to boot
[09:29] <IndyBC> :(
[09:29] <segfault_> !nvidia
[09:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:29] <sivik_> eXistenZ, i'm not in gnome nor do i have it installed on either machine
[09:29] <segfault_> !nvidiabeta
[09:29] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[09:29] <boson_> ChrisCox: In system -> Administraion -> Networking
[09:29] <tabias> is there a way to install a printer (via a ZOT print server thingie) ?
[09:29] <Loof> Can I upgrade to 6.10 (from 6.x) in place... via aptitude, etc?
[09:29] <djmccormick> if i install samba-common will i have smbclient?
[09:29] <boson_> Loof: yes
[09:29] <Loof> Or, do I have to download it, etc.
[09:29] <dabaR> Loof: read the topic
[09:29] <boson_> Loof: Check the ubuntu website for instructions
[09:29] <elvar> what means ISO8859-15 ????
[09:30] <rwscold> ya my x crashes when i try and use the live cd regardless if i do it in safe morde or not....................
[09:30] <gopp> debar thanks
[09:30] <eeejay> 1) is there a way to upgrade to edgy using bittorrent? the repos seem to be under heavy load :P
[09:30] <ChrisCox> boson_: What do you mean about choose an ip address?
[09:30] <sivik_> Loof: yes, change the sources.list file, from dapper to edgy, run aptitude/apt-get update, and then aptitude/apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:30] <Loof> ooh, I missed the topic :)
[09:30] <eXistenZ> segfault_, Are you using edgy + gnome?
[09:30] <gopp> debar last question do I need to upgrade to the new version of the distro
[09:30] <eeejay> 2) could i abort the upgrade?
[09:30] <boson_> ChrisCox: Your router normally assigns an address such as 10.0.0.x or 192.168.1.x
[09:30] <JoseStefan> eeboy, you can download the ISO images thru torrent, you will find ,torrent file on the download server
[09:30] <boson_> ChrisCox: pick one of those
[09:30] <sivik_> gopp: you don't have to
[09:30] <JoseStefan> eeejay, ^^^
[09:30] <Loof> sivik: Perfect... I was hoping that was the case... but I wanted to be sure before killing my box :D
[09:30] <JonasRV> Ubuntu 6.10 wont detect my broadcom wireless card, does anyone have the same problem? Booting from the previous kernel the system detects it.
[09:31] <gopp> so I should waite couple of weeks
[09:31] <eyequeue> eeejay, i think the d/l sites all have a torrent in the dir :)
[09:31] <Roger_The_Bum> yeah
[09:31] <boson_> JonasRV: I've had that problem
[09:31] <djmccormick> i've installed samba-common... now how do i run smbclient?
[09:31] <exclude> hmm, I get a "No devices detected".
[09:31] <Rubin> JonasRV, sounds like a regression, you should report that on the wiki
[09:31] <JoseStefan> eeejay, for upgrade you need the alternate CD, instead of desktop
[09:31] <Roger_The_Bum> chose the alternate installs mode
[09:31] <ChrisCox> boson_: Subnet mask?
[09:31] <exclude> seems like my xorg is really borked
[09:31] <boson_> JonasRV: But it never detected it automatically
[09:31] <eeejay> JoseStefan: thanks!
[09:31] <boson_> ChrisCox: 225.255.255.0
[09:32] <boson_> JonasRV: I had to use ndiswrapper
[09:32] <jme_> oh god, 7 hours 43 minutes to install
[09:32] <ChrisCox> boson_: gateway address?
[09:32] <jme_> I should have just done it overnight
[09:32] <boson_> ChrisCox: your router IP
[09:32] <ChrisCox> boson_: How do i find that out?
[09:32] <boson_> ChrisCox: What IP did you pick?
[09:32] <ChrisCox> boson_ 192.168.1.5
[09:33] <boson_> ChrisCox: Router is probably 192.168.0.1
[09:33] <ehird> i'm just realising how powerful ubuntu is :)
[09:33] <sivik_> boson_, his router might be 1.1 not 0.1
[09:33] <JonasRV> boson_: okei, I've used the linuxant driverloader. I'll try the ndiswrapper solution :)
[09:33] <ehird> i can do pretty much anything with it, like synchronize with a time server at startup transparently
[09:33] <LoRe> i've installed gstreamer0.8-mms but rhythmbox still says, that there is no handler for mms:// URLs, why?
[09:33] <boson_> sivik_:  Yeah I know. I just want him to try and ping the router to see if the problem is DHCP or not
[09:33] <cryptonic> right, so did anyone try and update the nvidia drivers on edgy cause i have problems with it crashing the xserver
[09:33] <ChrisCox> entered
[09:33] <ehird> that kind of stuff is what i've been looking for in an O :)
[09:33] <ChrisCox> boson_: Done
[09:34] <sivik_> boson_, good idea
[09:34] <exclude> cryptonic: same here.
[09:34] <boson_> ChrisCox: Try pinging your router. To get the address, go to one of your windows machines and run ipconfig. Try to ping that gateway address
[09:34] <tdn> I begun upgrading to 6.10, but then during install of some tetex package my system crashed. Now I cannot boot. What to do? :(
[09:34] <Pelo> good afternoon folks
[09:34] <eracc> Heh, a bit behind the times aren't they? "Second, SCO is proud to announce USB modem and serial support for UnixWare 7.1.4 and SCO OpenServer 6."
[09:34] <cryptonic> i thought it was down to my stupidity, looks like its nvidias to blame :D
[09:34] <JaZyWRK> when updating off the alternate cd you added to the repo, then change dapper to edgy.. but when i do the dist-upgrade it sill seems to want to pull stuff from offline
[09:34] <eracc> Oops, wrong channel. :-/
[09:34] <rwscold> come on torrent!
[09:35] <sivik_> JaZyWRK, try commenting out the cd in the sources.list fiel
[09:35] <JaZyWRK> rwscold good luck
[09:35] <Qaldune> hi
[09:35] <rwscold> the dist uopgrade is crazy slow
[09:35] <Qaldune> i think mark shuttleworth should really give some money to improve the ubuntu servers bandwith lol...
[09:35] <JaZyWRK> sivik_ i want to used the cd not the online repos
[09:35] <jHoNDoE> rwscold www.linuxtracker.org
[09:35] <bronze> us BT
[09:35] <bronze> use , heh
[09:35] <thee> rwscold: http://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[09:35] <dabaR> Pelo: so-so
[09:36] <cryptonic> does the prerelease of edgy ubuntu not update itself to the finished edgy product or do i need to download another dvd image?
[09:36] <ChrisCox> boson_: Says network is unreachable
[09:36] <jHoNDoE> i download kubuntu @ 500KB/s and ubuntu @ 300KB/s
[09:36] <LjL> cryptonic: it updates.
[09:36] <[Deathmaster] > how can i install firefox 2.0 on dapper because i cannot find time to upgrade to edgy just because of one package ?
[09:36] <teferra> is upgrading runs on torrent? it is uploading more than it downloads. what is happning
[09:36] <eyequeue> cryptonic, here's the procedure, if you already have it installed
[09:36] <rwscold> thee i need the alternate install
[09:36] <dabaR> Pelo: in regards to the good afternoon
[09:36] <ChrisCox> boson_: The ip on the windows ends in 2.x but you told me to put in 1.x in ubuntu
[09:36] <user-land> !multimedia
[09:36] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[09:36] <sivik_> [Deathmaster] , go download the tar.gz file and install it that way
[09:36] <eyequeue> cryptonic, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:36] <rwscold> i have the desktop cd and x crashes before i can get in to install
[09:36] <thee> rwscold: http://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[09:36] <boson_> ChrisCox: Change the ubuntu one to 2.x
[09:36] <[Deathmaster] > sivik_:  i'll try 10x
[09:36] <gopp> will itunes run in ubuntu
[09:37] <rwscold> itunes hahah who needs itunes!
[09:37] <gopp> or is thier a itune like player for ubuntu
[09:37] <sivik_> gopp: yes
[09:37] <rwscold> lol
[09:37] <eyequeue> cryptonic, probably fetches about 10 packages, rather than a cd. much much faster
[09:37] <exclude> should we not start a new channel for all the stranded X folks?
[09:37] <gopp> sivik in wine, itunes runs how
[09:37] <ehird> gopp: amarok
[09:37] <segfault_> eXistenZ, im on dapperno sense and upgrading while the mirrors are slammed
[09:37] <LjL> gopp: there is no Linux version of iTunes. you have Rythmbox, have you tried it out?
[09:37] <exclude>  /j #ubuntu-xserver e.g.?
[09:37] <gopp> yea but hmm
[09:37] <ProN00b> heh, changing the mirror made it lotsa faster
[09:37] <ehird> gopp: amarok is almost a complete clone of itunes, basically
[09:37] <ChrisCox> boson_: Should i change the gateway address to the one that is being shown in windows
[09:37] <exclude> ehird: nah, its not.
[09:37] <gopp> is amarok included in base installed
[09:37] <gopp> install
[09:37] <boson_> ChrisCox: Yeah
[09:38] <rwscold> anyone know why i cant use the desktop cd to install? i am running dapper already................
[09:38] <bronze> teferra: if by upgrading you mean "uploading" yes, BT clients share theire file segements of the torrented file.  since everybody contributes a little, everyone gets a fast download
[09:38] <Lunar_Lamp> ehird, except that it cannot play ITMS songs with their DRM :-)
[09:38] <Qaldune> amarok is best audio player ever
[09:38] <ehird> gopp: no, it isn't hard to install but it relies on some kde stuffs
[09:38] <exclude> gopp, no, its a KDE app.
[09:38] <Schmuk> Hi, I was wondring if anyone could help me. I am having trouble getting my USB wlan dongle to work with Ubuntu
[09:38] <LjL> ehird, gopp: and it is a KDE program that requires as dependencies just about all KDE libraries. that's worth a mention
[09:38] <ehird> but it works in gnome fine
[09:38] <Qaldune> no rythmbox or anything else
[09:38] <Citizen_Kane> does Ubuntu has write support for NTFS ?
[09:38] <timhaughton> Tale of woe: Did update of dapper via apt-get because the update-manager path didn't see edgy. It was downloading 700 meg of stuff from overloaded servers so I went to the gym. Just got back. Gnome hasn't been upgraded. The theme engine has broken so everything looks pants. Oh dear. Backing up my home and etc directories for a reinstall. Sob :(
[09:38] <exclude> get kubuntu if you want amarok
[09:38] <ehird> voraistos: do you have reasoning for that?
[09:38] <exclude> kubuntu is teh best :)
[09:38] <lied> amarok is great, listen is good too
[09:38] <voraistos> nah !!
[09:38] <Qaldune> you can get amarok just by typing sudo apt-get amarok
[09:38] <voraistos> gnome for ever !!!
[09:38] <Lam_> kubuntu ftw
[09:38] <Qaldune> it will install needed libraries
[09:38] <dan__> hey all, i just upgraded to Edgy, and my VNC server won't start, complains aobut "could not open default font 'fixed'
[09:38] <Lam_> the new kde is amazingly slick
[09:38] <LjL> Qaldune: not
[09:38] <ehird> voraistos: then take your comments elsewhere please
[09:38] <Qaldune> even if you are not using kubuntu
[09:39] <Qaldune> LjL i have
 Malformed line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/edgy-universe.list (dist parse)
[09:39] <exclude> ehird: it works only partly in gnome, the best thing about kdeapps is their integration, you miss that out completely in gnome.
[09:39] <LjL> Qaldune: perhaps you've typed "sudo apt-get install amarok", but not "sudo apt-get amarok".
[09:39] <voraistos> we wre in ubuntu here. not in #kubuntu
[09:39] <Qaldune> ok you're right
[09:39] <voraistos> amarok uses Qt libs
[09:39] <voraistos> and thats bad
[09:39] <Schmuk> Does anyone know if I can fix it or do I have to buy a new dongle?
[09:39] <Qaldune> why is it bad?
[09:39] <dabaR> voraistos: shut up
[09:39] <dabaR> !offtopic
[09:39] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:39] <teferra> bronze i mean i am upgrading dapper to edgy through systm upgrade. and it is uploading more than it is downloading. I thought that is strange.
[09:39] <LjL> amarok uses KDE, not just Qt. anyway, join #ubuntu-offtopic to argue about what's bad, good, better and worse please
[09:40] <dan__> voraistos: please takeit to #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu
[09:40] <ehird> "Device          "Generic Video Card"" in my xorg.conf, i change that to "Device          "sis"" for my sis mirage card right?
[09:40] <ChrisCox> boson_: Done that, now what?
[09:40] <bronze> teferra: oh, yes that is strange.
[09:40] <boson_> ChrisCox: Try to ping your router again
[09:40] <dabaR> paradizelost: haha, or #kubuntu:))
[09:40] <Citizen_Kane> does Ubuntu has write support for NTFS ?
[09:40] <voraistos> i am not here for that folks. did anyone updated the fglrx (ati) howto ?
[09:40] <rwscold> anyone know why i cant use the desktop cd to install? i am running dapper already................??????????????????????/
[09:40] <Hendikins> Toolkits shouldn't be a religious issue... anyway, save 4 gig of my metered bandwidth, is nspluginwrapper included with edgy?
[09:40] <boson_> Citizen_Kane: It does now =)
 Malformed line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/edgy-universe.list (dist parse) ?
[09:40] <gopp> sivik what do you mean that yes itunes can run in linux
[09:40] <gopp> I will get amarok
[09:40] <gopp> I will try
[09:40] <boson_> Hendikins: I dont know if it is by default, but you can apt-get it
[09:40] <exclude> voraistos what is your issue with it?
[09:40] <dabaR> rwscold: did you try?
[09:40] <paradizelost> anyone else having issues with vncserver?
[09:41] <ehird> gopp: apt-get install amarok should work
[09:41] <LjL> rwscold: one question mark conveys the message. though the message doesn't quite convey itself.
[09:41] <gopp> amarok
[09:41] <disasm> paradizelost: what kind of issues?
[09:41] <paradizelost> could not open default font 'fixed'
[09:41] <ChrisCox> boson_: Destination host unreachable
[09:41] <pazemlsqdfmoj> k, this is getting annoying, when i install the usual nvidia drivers, X refuses to boot again, when i install the new beta nvidia drivers, my sound just up n dies
[09:41] <pazemlsqdfmoj> anyone know why?
[09:41] <exclude> gopp: best join #kubuntu and ask for help there about amarok
[09:41] <paradizelost> disasm: it worked before i upgraded to edgy
[09:41] <Roger_The_Bum> awww
[09:41] <paradizelost> disasm: and now i get could not open default font 'fixed'
[09:41] <user-land> which is better, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly or gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-dbg ?
[09:41] <Hendikins> boson_: Being on the DVD media is close enough to "default" for me.
[09:41] <boson_> ChrisCox: Seems your network card isn't working properly. Go look on the forums to see if you need a different driver or something
[09:41] <ehird> anybody have an answer to my xorg.conf question>?
[09:41] <rwscold> dabar ya i tried to install using the live cd but no matter how i try and boot t6he cd x crashes
[09:41] <cyph1e> I'm going to install the nvidia drivers... The guide says I should install linux-restricted-modules-386... But I already have linux-restricted-modules-generic installed. Should I skip linux-restricted-modules-386?
[09:41] <MattJ> pazemlsqdfmoj, I installed it, couldn't get it to work in 5 minutes
[09:41] <boson_> Hendikins: Hahaha yes it is =)
[09:42] <MattJ> Now I use XDMCP
[09:42] <voraistos> exclude: it is not my  issue, but ati users have to specify in their xorg.conf not to use aiglx. otherwise dri wont work proprly
[09:42] <boson_> cyph1e: no
[09:42] <pazemlsqdfmoj> MattJ: whats that?
[09:42] <Ma1> can anyone tell me if this is 32 or 62 bits : IntelCoreTM 2 Duo Processor  T7200 (2GHz, 4M L2 Cache, 667MHz FSB)
[09:42] <cyph1e> allright, so I shuld install linux-restricted-modules-386?
[09:42] <EmxBA> it's 32 bits, ma1
[09:42] <Hendikins> boson_: You have no idea how sucky it is trying to write generic instructions for Linux.
[09:42] <Ma1> thx
[09:42] <boson_> cyph1e: yea
[09:42] <ChrisCox> boson_: I want to install Windows 95 over Ubuntu and when the disk is in the drive and i boot it, Ubuntu boots over it, any help?
[09:42] <exclude> pazemlsqdfmoj. ehird: voraistos: many people are reporting x-issues, but its a bit too busy here to get proper support :)
[09:42] <cyph1e> ok, thanks
[09:42] <MattJ> pazemlsqdfmoj, it's faster
[09:42] <lostatc> Is there  a way to make ubuntu remember an SD card? Like name it permanently?
[09:42] <dabaR> rwscold: first you say upgrade, now install...which?
[09:43] <djmccormick> i'm trying to mount a smbfs using: mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.101/My\ Documents /mnt/jorex (this worked last night in fedora on the same box.) now i'm getting "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.0.101/My Documents, missing codepage or other errorIn some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so."
[09:43] <boson_> ChrisCox: Make sure your cdrom is set above the HD in your BIOS boot order
[09:43] <EmxBA> are there any real speed-ups using amd 64 bit cpu with ubuntu 64 bit version?
[09:43] <rwscold> well i am working on the upgrade now
[09:43] <pazemlsqdfmoj> MattJ: but what is it? another x? a different driver for nvidia cards...?
[09:43] <Pelo> ChrisCox   change the boot drive in the bios
[09:43] <eXistenZ> Where can I find info on XGL edgy?
[09:43] <MattJ> pazemlsqdfmoj, Linux->Linux is easy, if you need to log into a linux PC from WIndows you need Xming
[09:43] <ChrisCox> boson_: And how may i do that?
[09:43] <rwscold> but i am running dapper right now
[09:43] <LjL> EmxBA: not very noticeable ones
[09:43] <djmccormick> says: [42951988.230000]  smb_fill_super: missing data argument
[09:43] <EmxBA> eXistenZ: beryl-project.org
[09:43] <rwscold> i downloaded the live cd on release
[09:43] <Hendikins> (It also doesn't help that biarch on Debian and variants blows majorly)
[09:43] <LjL> !xgl > eXistenZ
[09:43] <EmxBA> LjL: is it better to use 32bit or?
[09:43] <voraistos> exclude: i know how to get everybody's ATI to work. i check the wiki and update it if necessary.
[09:43] <boson_> ChrisCox: Um when you boot, hit F2 or whatever it tells you
[09:43] <miranda82> hello
[09:43] <LjL> EmxBA: it's easier, if you want to use stuff like Flash, Wine, the win32codecs, etc
[09:43] <voraistos> !ati
[09:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:43] <rwscold> I cannot get ther edgy live cd to boot even in safe mode
[09:43] <EmxBA> hi miranda82
[09:43] <exclude> voraistos: what wiki?
[09:43] <pazemlsqdfmoj> exclude: i thought edgy had been in beta for a long time, how did they not spot these problems before?
[09:43] <miranda82> is there a way to update mozilla firefox to v2, in dapper drake?
[09:44] <voraistos> wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:44] <ChrisCox> boson_: Press Fx to enter menu?
[09:44] <lostatc> !plf
[09:44] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[09:44] <guigouz> My wireless card uses the acx_100 driver, but that doesn't support WPA auth. I need to setup ndiswrapper, but how can I make ubuntu not load the acx_100 driver automatically ?
[09:44] <EmxBA> miranda82: compile it
[09:44] <LjL> !traffic
[09:44] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, and join the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for your understanding!
[09:44] <boson_> ChrisCox: Yea
[09:44] <dabaR> miranda82: ask google
[09:44] <pike_> rwscold: getting a kernel error or something?
[09:44] <eracc> Is there a *buntu mailing list for when security updates are released? If so, where does one go to sign up?
[09:44] <cyphase> i think i crashed my router by having to many gnutella connections open
[09:44] <miranda82> dabaR, nice answer...
[09:44] <djmccormick> i'm trying to mount a smbfs using: mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.101/My\ Documents /mnt/jorex (this worked last night in fedora on the same box.) now i'm getting "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.0.101/My Documents, missing codepage or other errorIn some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so."
[09:44] <dabaR> miranda82: thanks
[09:44] <miranda82> EmxBA, i want to upgrade it, not to make another instance
[09:44] <EmxBA> djmccormick: do not ask the same question so much times
[09:44] <exclude> pazemlsqdfmoj: I don't know, but I know that I am going to wait a few days with the upgrade next release :=)
[09:44] <voraistos> exclude: i show you in a sec
[09:44] <pazemlsqdfmoj> does anyone know what setting the new nvidia beta drivers affect, that could cause my soundcard to...not work?
[09:44] <rwscold> pike no screens found kind of thing like my video driver is ewrong or something
[09:44] <EmxBA> miranda82: dapper will always containt 1.5.0.4 and nothing upper. you need to compile 2.0
[09:45] <miranda82> EmxBA, ok
[09:45] <miranda82> EmxBA, thx
[09:45] <ehird> wish me luck guys, restarting X
[09:45] <pike_> rwscold: you can alt-crtl-f1 and get a getty login?
[09:45] <boson_> gl!
[09:45] <djmccormick> i fixed it, nevermind.
[09:45] <ChrisCox> boson_: Okay, i'm in system config thingy
[09:45] <cyphase> guigouz: add a line to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:45] <cyphase> acx_100
[09:45] <EmxBA> miranda82: np
[09:45] <ChrisCox> boson_: What now?
[09:45] <pazemlsqdfmoj> exclude: same here...but i would like to fix this particular problem, i think its just a setting gone awry, for instance, for some reason my default sound card was set from sb live to via after the nvidia drivers, simply changing back doesnt work, so there must be another setting
[09:45] <miranda82> EmxBA, do u know, why upgrading to edgy eft will uninstall me python???
[09:45] <boson_> ChrisCox: I dont know what it looks like. Poke around a bit, you'll find it under Boot Order or something
[09:45] <guigouz> cyphase, and is there a default way of setting up ndiswrapper ?
[09:45] <rwscold> pike not sure i didnt try lol
[09:46] <rwscold> i gave up
[09:46] <disasm> paradizelost: working fine here...
[09:46] <EmxBA> miranda82: dunno, it looks like it's substituted with python, but other package name, maybe python-something or...
[09:46] <exclude> pazemlsqdfmoj: yea. but setting back the backed-up xorg.conf does not solve the problem here.
[09:46] <cyphase> guigouz: what do you mean by "default way"?
[09:46] <Stork> where do i get a sources.list that works?!?!
[09:46] <miranda82> EmxBA, i'm quite afraid i will have problems upgrading...
[09:46] <boson_> Does installing edgy overwrite your old xorg.config?
[09:46] <EmxBA> Stork:source-o-matic
[09:46] <EmxBA> !sources
[09:46] <voraistos> exclude: people with ATI cards (and certainly others... non compatible with AIGLX) have to do that :Section "Extensions"
[09:46] <voraistos> 	Option	    "Composite" "false"
[09:46] <voraistos> EndSection
[09:46] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:46] <mirak> hem ubuntu servers are dead ?
[09:46] <EmxBA> !easysource>stork
[09:46] <EmxBA> mirak: overloaded, not dead
[09:46] <MattJ> dead?
[09:46] <Stork> doesn't work for edgy
[09:47] <MattJ> The reps are super slow for me
[09:47] <mirak> EmxBA: that's a problem, I can't even get a package
[09:47] <vogeltjeUb>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[09:47] <Roger_The_Bum> 1:2224
[09:47] <Roger_The_Bum> I can't get blaout!
 i think so too
[09:47] <dabaR> Stork: the only difference between a working edgy and dapper sources.list is the word dapper neds to be replaced with edgy
[09:47] <EmxBA> mirak: use some other repositories
[09:47] <mirak> EmxBA: french repos are dead too
[09:47] <Roger_The_Bum> whoa
[09:47] <MattJ> Woohoo!
[09:47] <ChrisCox> boson_: Should i be in com ports?
[09:47] <EmxBA> mirak: try tomorrow :)
[09:47] <MattJ> Accelerated OpenGL with my ATI card in Edgy
[09:47] <boson_> ChrisCox: Doubt it
[09:48] <djmccormick> how do i select through the command-line the services that will start up automatically with the server? also, where can i add certain systems to mount automatically?
[09:48] <EmxBA> djmccormick: /etc/fstab for mount
[09:48] <boson_> djmccormick: Should be in Administration under Services
[09:48] <djmccormick> this is a CLI-only machine
[09:48] <Pelo> damit,   gksu "update-manager -c" won'T update to edgy,  do I need to change the repo addreses first ?
[09:49] <pike_> djmccormick: from command line look in /etc/init.d/ to remove the symlinks for one of the scripts sudo update-rc.d -f scriptname remove
[09:49] <EmxBA> Pelo: it updates. repos are overloaded, please be patient!
[09:49] <pike_> djmccormick: course i forgot about upstart of wich i know nothing..
[09:49] <Pelo> EmxBA  thanks  , that answers my question,  I'll do it next week then
[09:49] <mumrah> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu on a machine with scsi drives
[09:49] <EmxBA> ok
[09:49] <mumrah> anyone know what boot parameters i need?
[09:49] <djmccormick> pike_: np, thanks for the pointer though.
[09:49] <Pelo> OR ....  will my dapper update automaticaly eventualy ?
[09:50] <LjL> Pelo: no
[09:50] <concept10> Anyone know how to manually boot the system using upstart?
[09:50] <ChrisCox> boson_: Okay, i changed boot order, now do i restart the comp?
[09:50] <EmxBA> Pelo: yes, it will by default, but do you want to update to edgy or just to update dapper and still use dapper? :S
[09:50] <caonex> I upgrade to Edgy, and the new splash does not display properly. All I get is one that looks like that of 6.06 but gray and black. And the bar has | symbols and is a the very top of the screen, even above the ubuntu logo. Why is this?
[09:50] <Pelo> EmxBA well,  so far I like dapper but if edgy is more stable and generaly better,  I'll take edgy
[09:51] <St_MPA3b> I got error with 'kfmclient' when trying to open web link in KDE apt :(. How can i fix it? //I have Gnom
[09:51] <EmxBA> it's not more stable, but it depends is it better...it's not more stable, that's all. dapper has LTS
[09:51] <EmxBA> Pelo
[09:51] <RMorris84> is there a way to make my volume louder?
[09:51] <RMorris84> its at max, but in windoze its alot louder lol
[09:51] <EmxBA> RMorris84: click on the volume icon in the gnome panel
[09:51] <EmxBA> use alsamixer then in terminal, RMorris84
[09:51] <LjL> RMorris84: look for a "Gain" or similar control
[09:52] <MtJB> should i be concerned about all these warnings in perl about my locale settings?
[09:52] <pike_> RMorris84: or run alsamixer from a terminal
[09:52] <Citizen_Kane> is there any tool to check NTFS errors?
[09:52] <mumrah> anyone? problems booting ubuntu cd... scsi...boot parameters?
[09:52] <ChrisCox> boson_: It keeps saying no bootable cd in aptai cd rom but i do have a cd in there. I bought it from the shop!
[09:52] <Pelo> RMorris84  open the pref for the sound manager icon on the taskbar
[09:52] <MasseR> MtJB: No
[09:52] <EmxBA> pike_: i've said that :)
[09:52] <MasseR> Just run sudo locale-gen after that
[09:52] <St_MPA3b> I got error with 'kfmclient' when trying to open web link in KDE apt :(. How can i fix it? //I have Gnom
[09:52] <MtJB> thanks, MasseR
[09:52] <St_MPA3b> I got error with 'kfmclient' when trying to open web link in KDE apt :(. How can i fix it? //I have Gnom
[09:52] <LjL> !repeat | St_MPA3b
[09:52] <ubotu> St_MPA3b: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:52] <ChrisCox> boson_: Is there a way to like, boot the cd from in Ubuntu
[09:52] <MutantX> how do i change my mac address back to the default one after changing it to a fake one?
[09:52] <EmxBA> St_MPA3b: do not flood the channel nor repeat your qs
[09:52] <MutantX> without rebooting...
[09:52] <St_MPA3b> LjL: sorry :] 
[09:52] <RMorris84> EmxBA: i ran it at its at the max...
[09:53] <EmxBA> MutantX: use macchanger
[09:53] <St_MPA3b> all: sry
[09:53] <Pelo> anyone hace a link explaning the difference between daper and edgy ?
[09:53] <ehird> Hi! What's the apt-get command to install KDE+its default apps (NO extra apps, just Konquerer, etc.) - please not kubuntu-desktop, kubuntu is massively unstable on my system. Preferebly it should keep gnome and all its related stuff in case anything goes wrong
[09:53] <EmxBA> Pelo: not yet...see wikipedia's article or something equivalent
[09:53] <MutantX> EmxBA: thank you
[09:53] <Hendikins> Pelo: Check the release notes. Big link on the front of ubuntu.com
[09:53] <RMorris84> EmxBA: but its like a generic chip is there a way i change that to something better? like find out if theres an actual sound card driver for this laptop?
[09:54] <Hendikins> ("exciting new features" link)
[09:54] <voraistos> damn. help.ubuntu.com is sooo slow !
[09:54] <EmxBA> RMorris84: which card is that? via possibly?
[09:54] <voraistos> hey where are those people with X problems ?
[09:54] <rwscold>  i hav x problems with the live cd
[09:54] <Rubin> voraistos, theres a huge rush on ubuntu today because of the release. you may have to put it away and come back in a few days
[09:54] <EmxBA> help.ubuntu.com says "Documentation for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake)" - when will this be updated?
[09:54] <LjL> ehird: try kde-core
[09:55] <voraistos> Rubin: this si important information i have to give
[09:55] <ehird> LjL; will that install konquerer, etc. though?
[09:55] <EmxBA> ehird: yes
[09:55] <aluno> ol tem vida do BR ai!!!!!!!!!!
[09:55] <ehird> i'm looking for a usable kde system with konquerer and all the default tools, but no extra programs like IM or openoffice
[09:55] <LjL> ehird: type "apt-cache show kde-core" to see what it installs. and, yes.
[09:55] <LjL> !br | aluno
[09:55] <ubotu> aluno: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:55] <Rubin> voraistos, donate to ubuntu so they can afford bigger servers..
[09:55] <ehird> i'll give it a try after i finish this, then
[09:55] <Verithrax> Hm, no way of updating without downloading the ISO?
[09:56] <LjL> !upgrade | Verithrax
[09:56] <ubotu> Verithrax: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[09:56] <voraistos> Rubin: i already give a lot of my time. i have been testing edgy intensivly.
[09:56] <EmxBA> Verithrax: you can just change dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:56] <djmccormick> anyone do ruby with mysql on ubuntu? what mysql library do i have to install to install the mysql gem?
[09:56] <fuoco> EmxBA: does it not update automatically ?
[09:56] <Rubin> voraistos, i wasnt accusing you of being a freeloader. just saying the servers are overwhelmed today and it cant be helped
[09:56] <rwscold> VOR why then can i not boot using the live cd?
[09:56] <voraistos> Rubin: but i come back from hollidays and i see lots of trouble xorg related. and i might know most of the answers
[09:56] <ehird> LjL: the apt-cache thing doesnt seem to work
[09:56] <EmxBA> fuoco: or you can use update-manager
[09:56] <ehird> it gives detgails but not the contents
[09:56] <RMorris84> EmxBA: its a compaq presario v5204nr and i wen to the compaq site it it doesnt really say what it is, it just says sound is Altec Lansing
[09:56] <RMorris84> but thats the speakers
[09:57] <fuoco> EmxBA: yeah - is it supposed to upgrade automatically ?
[09:57] <caonex> I upgrade to Edgy, and the new splash does not display properly. All I get is one that looks like that of 6.06 but gray and black. And the bar has | symbols and is a the very top of the screen, even above the ubuntu logo. Why is this?
[09:57] <EmxBA> RMorris84: dunno, if in the panel it's maximum and in the alsamixer, it should be at max.
[09:57] <EmxBA> !repeat|caonex
[09:57] <ubotu> caonex: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:57] <LjL> ehird: look at the "Depends:" line
[09:57] <fuoco> EmxBA: i mean, i run it and it doesn't show anything to update...
[09:57] <voraistos> Rubin: i am just pissed off i cant edit the damn wiki ! wasnt edgy supposed to come out the 28 th ?
[09:57] <WooD> when I do apt-get update i get an error reading packs .. what do i do to rebuilt   %?
[09:57] <EmxBA> fuoco: no
[09:57] <godmachine81> Seveas:: can i pm you?
[09:57] <LjL> voraistos: no
[09:57] <Rubin> voraistos, dunno, but its out today :)
[09:57] <EmxBA> voraistos: 26th
[09:57] <ehird> Depends: arts (>= 1.4.2), kdebase (>= 4:3.4.3), kdelibs (>= 4:3.4.3)
[09:57] <EmxBA> 26th.
[09:57] <ehird> not very descriptive ;)
[09:58] <RMorris84> EmxBA: i just know its alot louder in windows and dont see why its not in ubuntu lol
[09:58] <pike_> caonex: you can just replace it i think in /usr/share/pixmaps/ copy something else of ubuntu-usplash.pgn or whatever i think
[09:58] <Nox_ville> hey ppl.. is there an amarok for gnome?
[09:58] <EmxBA> Nox_ville: just type sudo apt-get install amarok and amarok will work in gnome.
[09:58] <caonex> pike_, but shouldnt it come by default installed?
[09:59] <ehird> um, guys? how big will a kde-core install be? as the servers are overloaded and i get like 1kbps
[09:59] <Pelo> Nox_ville  amarok is a kde app,  but you can probably run it on gnome
[09:59] <Blacken> voraistos: "The dark side"? FUD to off, please.
[09:59] <ehird> you can run it on gnome perfectly, yes
[09:59] <EmxBA> ehird: try later or tomorrow
[09:59] <caonex> pike_, it seems that is installed but not detecting enough video requirements to show it and shows something less intensive
[09:59] <ehird> Blacken: voraistos has been spouting pro-gnome propaganda for the last, oh, hour :p
[09:59] <LjL> ehird: just type "sudo apt-get install kde-core" and you'll know
[09:59] <Blacken> ehird: I just got out of class and actually noticed it.
[09:59] <voraistos> ehird: the only way is to change your sources.list to some mirror in a coutry where people mostly use windows, and not real OS
[10:00] <EmxBA> LOL voraistos
[10:00] <rwscold> votaistos is there a known issue wioth ati ??? i cant get a screen when booting from the live cd even in safe mode x always crashes
[10:00] <ehird> LjL: i guess :p
[10:00] <ehird> voraistos: this is really tiring.
[10:00] <gopp> hey
[10:00] <pike_> caonex: ah
[10:00] <Nox_ville> how can i get wirelss working... it like sees ath0 as a device but i cant ping it from any other computers?
[10:00] <elfstone> hi i have a question, today i updated to edgy and i have a problem. i installed nvidia-glx-legace and everything went fine, i changed the driver to nvidia and ... i dont have glx
[10:00] <EmxBA> you can use ubuntu-hr.org mirror - there are only around ~100 users in whole country...
[10:00] <LjL> ehird, i mean you'll know *before* committing to install.
[10:00] <gopp> where does unbuntu mount samba
[10:00] <gopp> file system
[10:00] <ehird> 53mb for KDE XD i'll wait until the servers are okay
[10:00] <gopp> I see the link, but can't seem to find out where it mounts it
[10:00] <gopp> it not in ./mnt
[10:00] <sholden> Does anyone know if there's a way to enable dual monitor support like twinview with an ATI card?
[10:00] <pazemlsqdfmoj> i got my nvidia drivers working now, but my sound is still dead (nvidia beta drivers), anyone got any idea?
[10:01] <gopp> !samba
[10:01] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:01] <pike_> Nox_ville: you have an ipaddress? 192.168? when you ifconfig ath0
[10:01] <rwscold> sholden? like same view? sam,e card?
[10:01] <Nox_ville> !wireless
[10:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:01] <rwscold> votaistos is there a known issue wioth ati ??? i cant get a screen when booting from the live cd even in safe mode x always crashes??
[10:01] <MattJ> How do I enable DRI with an ATI card in edgy?
[10:01] <Flats> If this is my file system in Fdisk what filesystem type do I use to manually mount it?
[10:01] <EmxBA> !ati > rwscold
[10:01] <Blacken> MattJ: If you're on a -generic kernel, the quick answer is that right now you can't.
[10:01] <sholden> rwscold not a clone display, but like a dual monitor setup
[10:01] <voraistos> gopp: on your desktop i think i am not sure. check out fstab
[10:02] <Flats> dev/hdd1   *           1        9728    78140128+   7  HPFS/NTFS  Guess the filesystem would help
[10:02] <jyoungxx> why am I getting "mplayer-386: Depends: libjack0.80.0-0 but it is not going to be installed" when trying to install mplayer?
[10:02] <rwscold> oh extended?
[10:02] <BIJOU> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... algn espaolito!!!!!!
[10:02] <iMax> hi
[10:02] <MattJ> and if I'm on -686-smp it would work?
[10:02] <sholden> yes
[10:02] <voraistos> !es
[10:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:02] <EmxBA> and one more thing, what is generic? it has SMP support as i saw, Blacken
[10:02] <LjL> !es | Bjoern-Erik
[10:02] <ubotu> Bjoern-Erik: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:02] <ehird> hmm, which mirror will be very fast right now? :p
[10:02] <EmxBA> ubuntu-hr.org, ehird
[10:02] <Blacken> EmxBA: It's a kernel that supports SMP but will devolve to 386 or K7 on systems that don't support it.
[10:02] <dalfz> what program can make .iso images of my data cds?
[10:02] <EmxBA> hmm..thanks, Blacken
[10:02] <lupine_85> dalfz: dd
[10:02] <pazemlsqdfmoj> does ubuntu have a full blown server (which can compete with windows 2003) ?
[10:02] <EmxBA> dalfz: k3b on kde and gnomebaker on gnome
[10:03] <rwscold> EMxBA how do u expect me to install drivers while i am trying to boot a live cd??
[10:03] <voraistos> ehird: i had edgy before it was released, so i dont have this problem :)
[10:03] <EmxBA> rwscold: ok
[10:03] <Blacken> MattJ: Maybe. Use the ATI package, not the repositories, and it may work.
[10:03] <EmxBA> sorry
[10:03] <dalfz> lupine_85, what params should i use?
[10:03] <lupine_85> i.e. dd if=/dev/dvd of=/home/dalfz/cd.iso bs=512
[10:03] <exclude> voraistos: any luck with the wiki page?
[10:03] <MattJ> k, thanks
[10:03] <Blacken> pazemlsqdfmoj: That would be a fairly basic install using the server disc.
[10:03] <pike_> dalfz: dd or cat /dev/cdrom > file.iso or mkisofs
[10:03] <gopp> ehird last question where offically does ubuntu mount samba shares
[10:03] <rwscold> :)
[10:03] <ehird> voraistos: nice elitism, fyi it's general packages i'm trying to get, not edgy
[10:03] <Seveas> godmachine81, no need to ask that
[10:03] <voraistos> By the way, the Boss should be rich enough to make a donation, no ? we could have new servers :)
[10:03] <jyoungxx> this channel is completely useless
[10:03] <dalfz> nice thanks all :)
[10:03] <lupine_85> you might need to specify /dev/hdc or whatever it is, though
[10:03] <gopp> does any here know
[10:03] <voraistos> ehird: yeah. just wait a bit then.
[10:03] <lupine_85> !patience
[10:03] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:03] <ubuntuer> hi guys
[10:04] <Code-E> My "computer" and home icons are no longer on the desktop. Is there  a way I can put them back there? I am on xubuntu 6.10
[10:04] <rwscold> Sholden sorry i dunnno there is an ati control panel tho
[10:04] <EmxBA> hi ubuntuer
[10:04] <ehird> i'm kinda growing on gnome
[10:04] <MasseR> How do I install modules/drivers?
[10:04] <ehird> who says i should keep it
[10:04] <godmachine81> Seveas:: well i dont know whether to take that as a yes or a no
[10:04] <rixxon> Xorg problems with edgy, dpkg-reconfigure and ubuntu-desktop did not solve anything, help!
[10:04] <EmxBA> !drivers|masser
[10:04] <voraistos> ehird: you can try to get .deb packages from the debian repos. but that might be... a bit messy  afterwards
[10:04] <lupine_85> MasseR: most of them come installed with the kernel by default
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <michaels_> sorry to be the 10^100th to ask, but how do I update Dapper to Edgy via update-manager?
[10:04] <EmxBA> :(
[10:04] <Blacken> rixxon: Reinstall xserver-org (remove then install it) and go from there.
[10:04] <Seveas> godmachine81, a yes
[10:04] <EmxBA> !update | michaels_
[10:04] <ubotu> michaels_: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[10:04] <LjL> !upgrade | michaels_
[10:04] <djmccormick> is there a way to specify the version of something you want with apt-get? like i want mysql 5.0.11 instead of the 5.0.22 it installed?
[10:04] <pazemlsqdfmoj> anyone? my sound died after installing nvidia drivers?
[10:04] <godmachine81> Seveas:: thanks
[10:04] <lupine_85> you might need to "modprobe" them to load them into the kernel, tough. What are you trying to get running?
[10:04] <lupine_85> though*
[10:04] <MasseR> lupine_85: I know, but one site recommended that b44 is buggy and instead use the old bcm4400
[10:04] <Blacken> djmccormick: Nope, unless there's another package out there
[10:05] <thor> gopp: ubuntu doesn't mount samba shares. Samba allows other computers to access folders you have mounted already
[10:05] <ubuntuer> Just a quick question. I am using ubuntu dapper drake, full updates. I have installed flash player from the repositories. When I go to www.adobe.com the html menus at the top of the page are being hidden behind the flash movie. Anyone knows what can I do?
[10:05] <EmxBA> for all of you: try ubuntu-hr.org server, is located in croatia, europe, and is not overloaded (around 100 users only)
[10:05] <rwscold> if anyone cares the torrent for the alternat iso is smoking fast!
[10:05] <ubuntuer> I tried with flash 9 beta and still the same...
[10:05] <voraistos> thor: i think it does mount network neighborhood shares on your desktop
[10:05] <ehird> can anyone help? when scrolling with anything ESPECIALLY firefox the screen flashes - also my cursor flashes regularly when anything happens
[10:05] <Blacken> EmxBA: Sure, smoke the Croatians. Jerk. :(
[10:05] <Code-E> My "computer" and home icons are no longer on the desktop. Is there  a way I can put them back there? I am on xubuntu 6.10
[10:05] <alex_> helloo, what is a good program for burning ISO's?
[10:05] <Code-E> ??
[10:05] <NotYourName> all the torrents are smoking
[10:05] <EmxBA> Blacken: a?
[10:06] <ehird> it's really annoying
[10:06] <EmxBA> alex_: k3b or gnomebaker
[10:06] <rwscold> alex its built in
[10:06] <macd> Code-E, just drag them back
[10:06] <rwscold> isnt it
[10:06] <EmxBA> or the built in one
[10:06] <thor> voraistos...oh yeah...the other way around <smile>
[10:06] <Code-E> macd: from where?
[10:06] <lupine_85> MasseR: then you'll likely have to build it manually
[10:06] <voraistos> ehird: whats your graphic card /
[10:06] <macd> the menu
[10:06] <ehird> voraistos: SiS mirage 32mb :/
[10:06] <MasseR> lupine_85: I know, but how
[10:06] <lupine_85> I'd imagine
[10:06] <rwscold> right click the iso then click burn cant get any easier
[10:06] <pike_> alex_: k3b much better than gnomebaker unless something has changed
[10:06] <LjL> !traffic
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[10:06] <MasseR> the module-assistant build bcm4400 doesn't work
[10:06] <MasseR> And "make" doesn't work
[10:06] <lupine_85> MasseR: depends on the module. usually you read INSTALL
[10:06] <TeemuR> hi I downloaded the 6.10 CD, I burned it. The CD menu shows up I of course choose the first option: Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!   And it goes nowhere from there. I have an AMD Athlon 3700+ processor, 1,5 G of RAM, Ati Radeon 9550 and two 160G HD's.
[10:06] <voraistos> ehird: go back to windows, or buy a proper graphic card
[10:07] <alex_> im downloading edgy from the torrent... 1,200 kb/s
[10:07] <sholden> I'm trying to rotate my monitor under preferences -> screen resolution, but the rotate monitor field is disabled.  Does anyone know how to enable it?
[10:07] <moreati> Evening all, I have downloaded source package (orig.tar.gz, diff,gz, dsc) for mesa and made a 1 line change in the unpacked sources. I wish to compile a deb from this. What is the correct command?
[10:07] <MasseR> lupine_85: It doesn't have INSTALL
[10:07] <ehird> voraistos: you're charming, really
[10:07] <voraistos> ehird: there will be no way, i am sorry about that
[10:07] <alex_> it took me 10 minutes to download the cd image
[10:07] <Frederick> does the update tool on apt has a timeout when a repo is not disponible?
[10:07] <osman> hi all, could anyone help me setup a route from my internal lan nice to my internet nic??
[10:07] <EmxBA> alex_:cool
[10:07] <Blacken> TeemuR: Sounds like you downloaded a CD for the wrong arch.
[10:07] <ehird> kde runs fine on this machine
[10:07] <ubuntuer> Does anyone know how to make the flash movies to render behind the html elements of the page?
[10:07] <lupine_85> do you have the headers installed?
[10:07] <Code-E> macd: I am on xubuntu
[10:07] <voraistos> ehird: SIS sucks. thats the truth. Even ATI looks great in front of them
[10:07] <Code-E> they are not in the menu
[10:07] <ehird> voraistos: i take it kde isn't an option in your opinion?
[10:07] <WooD> I get the error : sudo aptitude update
[10:07] <WooD> Lecture des listes de paquets... Erreur!
[10:07] <WooD> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[10:07] <WooD>  ...................any of you know what to do ?
[10:07] <lupine_85> e.g. linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[10:07] <EmxBA> !flood | WooD
[10:07] <ubotu> WooD: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:07] <ehird> voraistos: PLEASE, i can't afford a graphics card right now. an OS should run on 32mb
[10:07] <macd> Code-E, xubuntu still has a menu, just drag the icon for the computer from the file manager onto the desktop
[10:07] <LjL> !paste | wood
[10:08] <voraistos> ehird: KDE wouldnt change a thing
[10:08] <ubotu> wood: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:08] <PsySine> PLF seems to be dead, what do you recommend instead?
[10:08] <Code-E> its not there macd
[10:08] <ehird> voraistos: Yet KDE runs fine on this machine! I bet you can't explain that?
[10:08] <Blacken> PsySine: There is no alternative to PLF.
[10:08] <macd> Code-E, then I dont know what to tell you
[10:08] <pike_> ubuntuer: there is a firefox plugin that prevent movies from automatically playing you have to actually click a play icon
[10:08] <osman> hi all, could anyone help me setup a route from my internal lan nice to my internet nic?? I need to add a route from my one nic to another??? can any1 help
[10:08] <LjL> WooD: do you have any free HD space?
[10:08] <TeemuR> Backen: I downloaded the CD from the link at ubuntu.com
[10:08] <WooD> yes i do have 6gb free
[10:08] <voraistos> ehird: nah. You need SIS drivers. And they dont exist
[10:08] <EmxBA> TeemuR: and speed?
[10:08] <rwscold> it seems like agood idea before installing any update or upgrade with ubuntu to wait a week or two
[10:08] <WooD> LjL: I have 6gb
[10:08] <rwscold> lol
[10:08] <PsySine> Blacken: :( do you know any other repo with realplay(er) ?
[10:08] <ChrisNiemy> PsySine sure? check: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[10:08] <Frederick> does the update tool on apt has a timeout when a repo is not disponible?
[10:09] <voraistos> ehird: KDE would run as bad as anything else on a crappy X server
[10:09] <Blacken> PsySine: No. I know you can wait.
[10:09] <MasseR> lupine_85: It sais to "cd src ; make"
[10:09] <MasseR> But it complains erorrs
[10:09] <Mistery_> nadie habla espaol aqui?
[10:09] <ChrisNiemy> PsySine deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ edgy-plf free non-free
[10:09] <ehird> voraistos: What the hell? I've used Kubuntu and it works fine. You can't say anything that'll change that fact.
[10:09] <ehird> voraistos: besides, according to people on ubuntuforums, there ARE SiS drivers
[10:09] <lupine_85> then interpret the errors and fix the problems from there
[10:09] <LjL> !es | Mistery_
[10:09] <ubotu> Mistery_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:09] <voraistos> ehird: check out the SIS drivers, if i remember, a few cards are supported properly.
[10:09] <ehird> voraistos: so welcome to /ignore
[10:09] <TeemuR> EmxBA: speed of what? (I'm a little bit of a noob)
[10:09] <lupine_85> if you can't do that, pastebin the errors and I;ll see what I can do
[10:09] <EmxBA> TeemuR: downloading from ubuntu.com servers
[10:09] <tapas> hmm, can i somehow tell ubuntu not to start x on boot with the live cd?
[10:09] <PsySine> ChrisNiemy: that one has been dead for a long time
[10:09] <LjL> ehird: no need to announce that in the channel.
[10:09] <Nox_ville> !wireless
[10:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:10] <gandolftheiwzard> hi all how do i get flash plug-in installed
[10:10] <TeemuR> EmxBA: About 150kb/s
[10:10] <EmxBA> !flash | gandolftheiwzard
[10:10] <ubotu> gandolftheiwzard: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:10] <St_MPA3b> lol... Shift+Ctrl works, but Ctrl+Shift doesn't o__O.
[10:10] <EmxBA> TeemuR: ok
[10:10] <PsySine> Blacken: http://plf.zarb.org/ what is this about?
[10:10] <ubuntuer> Thanks pike but I don't want that. I can even disable flash completely. It's mostly an annoyance anyway. I just want to be rendered correctly and not to hide the html page I am reading. I wonder if anyone has managed to do that.
[10:10] <ChrisNiemy> PsySine oops :( sometimes the server are down a while
[10:10] <MasseR> lupine_85: Hold on. Trying to find out how to get the errors
[10:10] <MarcN> I'm trying to upgrade, but had a problem with a random packae (lmodern) that isn't upgrading nor can it be removed -- there are syntax errors in the remove script.  ideas on how to get around this?
[10:10] <Tschaka> lol omg ubuntu upgrade...canceled cause he couldnt load the fuckin LAST package...scorched3d....nice one
[10:10] <voraistos> ehird: i have 5 testing machines in front of me running edgy for 2 month now. one of them has a SIS chipset, and integrated graphics. and it wont work. i have been testing KDE too you know, and i have reasons not to like it you see :)
[10:10] <morphish> ehird: try the kernel sis framebuffer driver, and in xorg.conf use "fbdev" as Driver
[10:11] <segfault_> !language
[10:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:11] <WooD> LjL : i tried to install the ubuntu 6.10 from live cd 6.10 and when I select to install   i get an error I/O Boot Error
[10:11] <LjL> !language | Tschaka
[10:11] <ubotu> Tschaka: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:11] <kirkunit> i have the nvidia drivers installed, will upgrading to edgy cause me any problems?
[10:11] <Tschaka> sry :/
[10:11] <voraistos> ehird: CHECK FIRST YOUR CARD IS COMPATIBLE WITH THAT !
[10:11] <WooD> i tried to install the ubuntu 6.10 from live cd 6.10 and when I select to install   i get an error I/O Boot Error any of you know the problem ?
[10:11] <Tschaka> i am a bit angry cause it took me about 10 hours yet...
[10:11] <LjL> WooD: have you verified the CD?
[10:11] <LjL> !caps | voraistos
[10:11] <ubotu> voraistos: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:11] <pike_> kirkunit: did you install via apt-get or the nvidia.sh installer if the latter youll have to redo
[10:11] <tapas> WooD: did you do an md5 sum on the disk?
[10:11] <kmaynard> kirkunit: i had nvidia driver installed when i upgraded, no probs
[10:12] <WooD> LjL : have burned twice and test it on 2 different machine and same prob
[10:12] <kirkunit> pike_: apt-get, i think. thanks
[10:12] <WooD> tapas: no i didn't
[10:12] <LjL> WooD: run an md5sum
[10:12] <voraistos> ubotu  i know u cant read, bot
[10:12] <kirkunit> kmaynard: ok, thanks
[10:12] <LjL> !md5 > WooD
[10:12] <voraistos> lol
[10:12] <tapas> WooD: do md5sum /path/to/image and compare with the correct one
[10:12] <rwscold> BE back later nap time
[10:12] <osman> hi I have 2 nics one is internal and one is linked to my cable modem, i want to add a route from the internal 1 to my cable modem, can anyone help?
[10:13] <kirkunit> also, i don't particularly like the new edgy artwork, can i easily change the the login screen back to the dapper version?
[10:13] <lab1pc15> puto omar
[10:13] <WooD> tapas: ok thanks
[10:13] <WooD> ljl: thanks
[10:13] <St_MPA3b> lol... Shift+Ctrl works, but Ctrl+Shift doesn't... - all ubuntu users have that bug?
[10:13] <rixxon> X11 still broken after edgy upgrade, i have tried: dpkg-reconfigure, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, reinstall of xserver-xorg
[10:13] <tapas> WooD: http://ftp.du.se/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/ has a list of md5sums to compare to
[10:13] <MasseR> lupine_85: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28500/
[10:13] <rixxon> what X server driver should I use with an intel gfx?
[10:13] <MarcN> rixxon: me too (although I'm only 1/2 upgraded)  try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:14] <bkjones> ok, so, in case anyone else runs into this issue of being forced to run at 1024x768 with the vesa driver, you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' and pick from a wider variety of resolutions than the "screen resolution" gui will give you.
[10:14] <EmxBA> rixxon: i810 driver
[10:14] <voraistos> osman: you want to make a router out of your box ? check out a bit of subnetworking documentation on debian.org , your answer will be there (u will just have to edit a file if i remember)
[10:14] <rixxon> MarcN: i have tried that but I don't know what options to select really
[10:14] <rixxon> EmxBA: i tried i810, is the problem elsewhere?
[10:14] <wick2o> afternoon
[10:14] <osman> voraistos, thank u
[10:14] <MarcN> rixxon: try taking the defaults.
[10:14] <EmxBA> rixxon: or use vesa
[10:14] <rixxon> MarcN: that i did
[10:14] <rixxon> EmxBA: you sure?
[10:14] <EmxBA> rixxon: vesa works with all cards
[10:15] <lupine_85> MasseR: you don't have the kernel headers installed....
[10:15] <rixxon> EmxBA: then why isn't it default :S
[10:15] <MarcN> rixxon: what video hw?  were you using the nvida/ati binary only drivers?
[10:15] <MasseR> lupine_85: Yes I do
[10:15] <wick2o> i have a weird quesion,  I have a remove email server, i dont have remote access to.  is there an easy way to reinstall a ubunutu server install with ssh access without driving across town to do it?
[10:15] <rixxon> MarcN: no idea
[10:15] <lab1pc15> rixxon: where are you}
[10:15] <MasseR> lupine_85: Uhm, I have the source at least
[10:15] <lupine_85> source != headers
[10:15] <EmxBA> rixxon: it was on dapper, i think it's default on edgy too.
[10:15] <osman> voraistos, I already have arouter just need to route from the one subnet to another, would you know how i do it if i told u the subnet masks
[10:15] <wick2o> im thinking no since even a kickstart needs you there to fire it off
[10:15] <dalfz> lupine_85, how do i dump with dd when the cd has several tracks (sessions)?
[10:15] <rixxon> EmxBA: ok
[10:15] <lupine_85> and you may need to change the makefile so it looks in the right place for them
[10:15] <MasseR> Well then I'll just install them
[10:15] <RMorris84> EmxBA: i just did a lil research and found out that its a conexant chipset and that www.linuxant.com/drivers/ has this riptide thing for such, but im not sure what to do from there lo
[10:16] <RMorris84> lol
[10:16] <tapas> can i boot the live cd in runlevel 1?
[10:16] <lupine_85> dalfz: dd just grabs raw data
[10:16] <agent> i have an applet, how (where) do i regester it with gnome so that it will be listed in "add to panel"?
[10:16] <lupine_85> it doesn't care about niceties such as tracks
[10:16] <voraistos> osman: what you want to do is to create a router on your computer, or more precisly a gateway.  am i right ?
[10:16] <lab1pc15> rixxon: where are you
[10:16] <smax> I've been downloading my desktop cd iso but Etag is changed. Downloading from begin? what's the probrem. Jigdo DVD download stop's to
[10:16] <EmxBA> RMorris84: conexant sound card?
[10:16] <tapas> agent: i'd ask in #gnome about that
[10:16] <ehird> woo, the SiS display driver works
[10:16] <ehird> :D
[10:16] <agent> smax: use jigdo
[10:16] <RMorris84> EmxBA: yes
[10:16] <rixxon> lab1pc15: what?
[10:16] <dalfz> lupine_85, ok i see
[10:16] <agent> tapas: good idea :)
[10:16] <rixxon> should i use kernel framebuffer device interface? :o
[10:17] <ehird> now, i'm debating wether to keep gnome (which i'm growing on) or install KDE (which i prefer)
[10:17] <smax> agent and what i used?
[10:17] <qatsi> running edgy
[10:17] <voraistos> ehird: congrats: supported SIS cards are rare !
[10:17] <ZirJoker> where can i download gdesklets ???
[10:17] <lab1pc15> where are you from
[10:17] <lupine_85> KDE KDE KDE
[10:17] <lupine_85> :)
[10:17] <wick2o> or possible is there a way with apt-get to do a reinstall?
[10:17] <agent> !jigdo
[10:17] <ubotu> jigdo: GTK+ download manager (beta version). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.3-1 (edgy), package size 187 kB, installed size 440 kB
[10:17] <goliath23> any idea what I could do against the freaked out stack smashing protection on my half-dapper half-edgy system? the /usr/bin/perl gets killed all the time when called by dpkg or apt-get if I try to fix the mess..
[10:17] <ehird> i'm tempted to KDE
[10:17] <ZirJoker> where can i download gdesklets ???
[10:17] <DrSpin> Upgraded to Edgy -- like the packe upgrades -- startup is noticeably faster... my only problem so far is that the scroll joystick on my laptop doesn't work... it worked out of the box on Dapper... anyone know how I can fix this?>
[10:17] <ehird> but gnome gives me lots of speed
[10:17] <agent> !jigdo > smax
[10:17] <lupine_85> wick2o: apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[10:17] <ehird> more than KDE ever has
[10:17] <osman> voraistos, I dont want it to be a fully fledged router, i just want o direct traffic from one network card to the gateway of another network card if the ip is not part of my internal network
[10:17] <ehird> and is a fair share sleeker
[10:17] <EmxBA> ZirJoker: sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[10:17] <ZirJoker>  i mean
[10:17] <lab1pc15> where are you from rixxon
[10:17] <rixxon> ehird: i prefer gnome because it feels more professional, but kde has more features
[10:17] <Seveas> ehird, KDE gives you lsd ;)
[10:17] <ZirJoker> more "applets" or whatever they are
[10:17] <rixxon> lab1pc15: sweden
[10:17] <ehird> Now if someone could help me stop gaim lagging when messages arrive it'd be perfect
[10:17] <voraistos> ehird: i am sure you dont wanna do that : sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[10:18] <smax> agent it stops downloading template on 300 nb and over
[10:18] <smax> *mb
[10:18] <agent> smax: what you want to do is: mount your incomplete iso and use it as the starting point (along with /var/cache/apt/archives) as your new iso
[10:18] <EmxBA> ehird: depends on your CPU/RAM and connection
[10:18] <ehird> voraistos: not installing kubuntu, i'd use kde-core
[10:18] <agent> smax: what is nb?
[10:18] <lab1pc15> i'm mexican rixxon
[10:18] <The_Machine> I notice that when i shut down ubuntu it says stuff like "stopping bluetooth service" etc.
[10:18] <rixxon> lab1pc15: ok
[10:18] <The_Machine> but i don't use that in my PC at all
[10:18] <ehird> emxba: 1.3 or 1.8ghz cpu i forget, ~400mb ram. it's not the fastest machine :p
[10:18] <wick2o> lupine_85: but what if i want to reinstall the base system + ssh and dumb everything else?
[10:18] <MasseR> Okay thanks lupine_85 I'll try modifying the Makefile (installed headers)
[10:18] <smax> agent sory mb on 300 mb downloading temlate in jigdo stop's
[10:19] <The_Machine> so, my total newb ass question is:  Where can i find a list of all services that start with the Operating System that i may disable what i'm not using?
[10:19] <user-land> !skype
[10:19] <ubotu> skype is To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:19] <tapas> i somehow have to stop the X server from starting when i boot the live cd
[10:19] <ZirJoker> where can i download desklets for gdesklet??
[10:19] <nothing> good evening everyone, i have issues with bootup of 6.10 running an older hardware (P3/VIA chipset from ~1999)
[10:19] <nothing> is this a known issue?
[10:19] <cryptonic> does anyone know where i can get a dvd iso of the latest build of edgy in 32bit version, not 64bit dual install thingy, i just want a 32bt ubuntu install
[10:19] <EmxBA> ehird: i have 2.8 ghz and 256 mb ram and gaim rocks :D
[10:19] <ZirJoker> where can i download desklets for gdesklet??
[10:19] <Seveas> !skype =~ s/^/<reply>/
[10:19] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[10:19] <rixxon> !language | The_Machine
[10:19] <ubotu> The_Machine: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:19] <lab1pc15> do you girl or boy rixxon
[10:19] <rixxon> lab1pc15: i'm male if that's the question o_O why?
[10:19] <voraistos> osman; yeah, what i thought. u just need to create a few routing tables. But i vant help you on that, i have never done it onany linux system. check out the debian.org or something like that, you are sure to find a proper complete howto
[10:19] <tapas> on my thinkpad t21 X just freezes with kubuntu 6.10-rc2
[10:19] <agent> smax: i don't understand... are you using jigdo? jidgo template is only about 1mb or so
[10:19] <ZirJoker> where can i download desklets for gdesklet??
[10:19] <The_Machine> wait - they say that on prime time TV?
[10:19] <The_Machine> language?
[10:20] <EmxBA> ZirJoker: sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[10:20] <tapas> osman: network administrator guide or something
[10:20] <lab1pc15> my friend is girl
[10:20] <rixxon> The_Machine: not my request/rule
[10:20] <lupine_85> wick20: a reinstall would be easier
[10:20] <osman> voraistos, thank you very m much
[10:20] <smax> agent You can find it on site it's something like 600 mb
[10:20] <The_Machine> ookay.
[10:20] <nothing> the boot process is very slow and hangs at kernel hardware detection at detecting hdc, hdd, ide1 and apparently something else, as i don't have hdc, hdd and ide1 i disabled them via kernel line
[10:20] <lab1pc15> my friend is girl rixxon
[10:20] <qatsi> does edgy automatically mount other hdds ? if yes, where ? thank you :D
[10:20] <rixxon> The_Machine: i really don't care myself, just warning you :p
[10:20] <rixxon> lab1pc15: yea, what?
[10:20] <wick2o> lupine_85: sure would if i wanted to drive for an hour do a simple reinstall and add ssh and then drive home to do the rest of the setup
[10:20] <ZirJoker> ...
[10:20] <EmxBA> qatsi: /media/hdxx
[10:20] <user-land> seveas, what does that mean ?
[10:20] <The_Machine> Okay, then.  Question - Where can i find a list of all services that start with the Operating System that i may disable what i'm not using?
[10:20] <The_Machine> :)
[10:20] <eXistenZ> edgy is still damn buggy
[10:20] <eXistenZ> meh
[10:21] <eXistenZ> I should've sticked to dapper
[10:21] <Seveas> user-land, it was a bot instruction
[10:21] <voraistos> qatsi /media
[10:21] <wick2o> lts 4 life (or at least 3 years)
[10:21] <rixxon> eXistenZ: agreed :/
[10:21] <smax> agent "edgy-dvd-i386.template       25-Oct-2006 15:43  674M" it's from site
[10:21] <agent> smax: i sitll don't understand - are you trying to download the iso?
[10:21] <Seveas> wick2o, ;)
[10:21] <EmxBA>  /etc/rcX.d/ The_Machine
[10:21] <ehird> any suggestions to my gaim problem?
[10:21] <rixxon> eXistenZ: X11 problems aswell?
[10:21] <agent> smax: aha! ok
[10:21] <nothing> what exactly is bugging?
[10:21] <morphish> holy cow this channel is larger than #gentoo
[10:21] <rixxon> ehird: yea, don't use gaim :p
[10:21] <lab1pc15> she name is margarita rixxon
[10:21] <qatsi> EmxBA: nope, /media only has cdroms and flppy, i dont haver other hdds...:(
[10:21] <eXistenZ> rixxon, I have some silly bugs here
[10:21] <ehird> actually, i must use kde - amarok ;)
[10:21] <The_Machine> should i stop?
[10:21] <eXistenZ> and XGL
[10:21] <Seveas> morphish, that's release buzz
[10:21] <ehird> i don't like using non-native apps
[10:21] <EmxBA> qatsi: then add them to /etc/fstab/
[10:21] <ehird> so kde it is
[10:21] <wick2o> gentoo users are just busy compiling
[10:21] <edgy> Hi, How can I regenerate /etc/fstab in edgy? which package is responsible of it?
[10:21] <EmxBA> */etc/fstab
[10:21] <rixxon> lab1pc15: is this leading anywhere? this is not a social channel, sorry
[10:21] <ehird> now to find a non overloaded server :D
[10:21] <agent> smax: im curious, do you really need the dvd? why not a cd?
[10:21] <morphish> Seveas: i reckon this is skewed today :)
[10:21] <Seveas> edgy, you can't
[10:21] <The_Machine> it's still only in the downloading phase
[10:21] <The_Machine> hasn't started even installing yet
[10:22] <qatsi> EmxBA: about to :p but i thought it was already done :p
[10:22] <The_Machine> should i stop it?
[10:22] <nothing> wick2o: not every user i'd say :)
[10:22] <LjL> !traffic
[10:22] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, and join the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for your understanding!
[10:22] <Seveas> morphish, usually we're a bit smaller (900-950)
[10:22] <EmxBA> edgy: edit it yourself
[10:22] <smax> agent Yes I wanna dvd i don't have no stable conection
[10:22] <edgy> Seveas: I think the new one has things like UUID but I haven't so I would leave it then
[10:22] <user-land> you updated the text, seveas ?
[10:22] <agent> smax: okay... what mirror are you downloading from? and how are you downloading? (what are you using)?
[10:22] <Seveas> user-land, yes
[10:22] <user-land> !skype
[10:22] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:22] <CromagDK> is it possible to put in a liveCD and make it install Ubuntu without getting into the GUI ?
[10:23] <lab1pc15> how can i talk with ther pc in ubuntu do u know?
[10:23] <smax> jigdo http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[10:23] <The_Machine> EmxBA: I dno't see rcX.d..
[10:23] <smax> agent jigdo http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[10:23] <user-land> great, seveas, thanks :-)
[10:23] <rixxon> CromagDK: get the alternative installation cd
[10:23] <CromagDK> rixxon: ok thnkx
[10:23] <EmxBA> The_Machine: there are /etc/rc3.d/ , /etc/rc2.d/ and so..
[10:23] <EmxBA> is mark here somewhere? :D
[10:23] <The_Machine> right, i see those.  And i kind of figured that's what you meant..
[10:23] <total_meltdown> Hey Dudes, what would be the safest way of upgrading to edgy?
[10:23] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[10:23] <LjL> EmxBA: no
[10:23] <rixxon> can i go back to dapper after a failing edgy upgrade?
[10:23] <Seveas> !upgrade | total_meltdown
[10:23] <smax> agent I've been downloading also an live cd from the mirrow and downloader said that ETag changed
[10:23] <ubotu> total_meltdown: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[10:24] <fuoco> with core2duo i need to use 64bit install ?
[10:24] <EmxBA> LjL: OK
[10:24] <wick2o> rixxon: sure, reboot and reinstall
[10:24] <The_Machine> but i did mention i was a beginner and i asked where i could see the type of services that start when the OS starts, that I may edit it so that i only have necessary aspects of the OS starting when i boot my computer
[10:24] <eztk_> !upgrade
[10:24] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[10:24] <total_meltdown> Seveas: Thanks
[10:24] <rixxon> wick2o: reinstall the whole system?
[10:24] <LjL> The_Machine, if you're a beginner perhaps that's precisely the kind of thing you should avoid touching.
[10:24] <ehird> any good places to search for non-overloaded mirrors?
[10:24] <EmxBA> The_Machine: then use sysrcconf or something like that, that's shell app too but it's easy... i don't know the name exactly
[10:24] <EmxBA> ehird: i've said already :P
[10:24] <smax> agent maybee files changed on server because 2 downloads changed
[10:25] <morphish> Seveas: "What is the sources.listfile ?" <-- there is a missing space on the faq
[10:25] <lupine_85> wik20: in that case your best bet is to remove something fundamental to most of the graphical stuff - xlibs or something - and clean up from there, I guess
[10:25] <Seveas> morphish, it's a wiki, edit it 
[10:25] <The_Machine> LjL: why would it be so difficult to change startup services?  I don't need any bluetooth running
[10:25] <The_Machine> is the OS so anti intuitive?
[10:25] <ehird> emxba: mustn't have cought it :p
[10:25] <ehird> *caught
[10:25] <alt_f4> hey
[10:25] <EmxBA> ehird: pls use ubuntu-hr.org or de.archive.ubuntu.org it works perfectly for me :D
[10:25] <ehird> also, would kde display my gnome programs in its menu? that would be sucky
[10:25] <morphish> Seveas: holy cow, japanese smiley
[10:25] <K-Rich> Q: How long does it take to install Windows XP under qemu, it says (and has said) 37 minutes remain for 3 hours now?
[10:26] <EmxBA> Seveas: LOL
[10:26] <SeanTater> ehird: yes, and vice-versa
[10:26] <LjL> The_Machine, my Kubuntu has a Runlevel Editor in the Administration menu of the Control Center
[10:26] <Seveas> !windows | K-Rich
[10:26] <ubotu> K-Rich: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1  -  !equivalents  -  http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[10:26] <SeanTater> ehird: but you can edit the menu
[10:26] <ehird> SeanTater: that sucks then, i don't want to get rid of gnome just yet
[10:26] <Ayabara> !restricted
[10:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:26] <SeanTater> ehird: I think there is a hint/tip/eiki page on it if you look
[10:27] <lab1pc15> how can i talk with ther pc in ubuntu do u know? rixxon
[10:27] <Draconicus> !usplash
[10:27] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:27] <SeanTater> ehird: /wiki/
[10:27] <The_Machine> i see something called services, but it has only 5-6 things in it..
[10:27] <mumrah> I cannot boot to a live CD, can anyone help?
[10:27] <mumrah> I think it's a SCSI Controller thing
[10:27] <alt_f4> if I upgrade to edgy will it replace everything? will my XGL install be gone etc?
[10:27] <EmxBA> mumrah: specific problem?
[10:27] <Tokenbad> in ubuntu would I need to download vmware software to use it or can I apt-get it?
[10:27] <Seveas> !usplash =~ s#GNOME/KDE#the login screen#
[10:27] <EmxBA> alt_f4: it will be there
[10:27] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[10:27] <LjL> !info vmware-player | tokenbad
[10:27] <alt_f4> token: you can apt-get
[10:27] <alt_f4> I think
[10:27] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[10:27] <The_Machine> Tokenbad: do a vmware ubuntu search in google
[10:27] <The_Machine> that's how i did mine
[10:28] <Seveas> (ljl: strip info and it works)
[10:28] <alt_f4> EmxBA: then the custom XGL file I made and everything like that will not be changed correct?
[10:28] <smax> Is iso images changed on server after release? My downloader said that "Etag is changed download  begin's from begin
[10:29] <alt_f4> wow
[10:29] <alt_f4> 1110 people in room?!
[10:29] <alt_f4> phew
[10:29] <alt_f4> you guys hit a record
[10:30] <smax> Is iso images changed on server after release? My downloader said that "Etag is changed download  begined from begin after this message
[10:30] <MrKeuner> hi, why may I be getting too many errors?           RX packets:25085 errors:8452 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[10:30] <The_Machine> step by step howtos all over
[10:30] <Tokenbad> LjL, so all I need is the player?
[10:30] <mumrah> emxba: yea, once i type "live" with any of the params i've tried, two things load, then it says "Ready." then does nothing, screen goes black
[10:30] <LjL> Tokenbad: unless you have particularly particular needs, yes
[10:30] <pike_> Tokenbad: apt-get i think is vmplayer
[10:30] <Ayabara> I'm just beginning to customize my edgy install. is automatix an alternative?
[10:30] <EmxBA> mumrah: try xforcevesa parameter
[10:30] <LjL> Tokenbad: the player itself cannot create virtual machines, but you can use http://www.easyvmx.com for that
[10:30] <LjL> !automatix | Ayabara
[10:30] <ubotu> Ayabara: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[10:30] <Tokenbad> LjL, I just need to run Terragen which is windows based...and wine crashes
[10:30] <LjL> pike_: no, it is vmware-player - the command is vmplayer though
[10:30] <mumrah> emxBA: so "live xforceversa" ?
[10:30] <EmxBA> !wine | Tokenbad
[10:30] <ubotu> Tokenbad: wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:30] <agent> smax: have you tried a mirror that has the dvd (not sure if there are any)/
[10:30] <EmxBA> mumrah: yes, just add xforcevesa parameter
[10:30] <Tokenbad> EmxBA, I have wine...but it crashes with terragen
[10:30] <paradizelost> Tokenbad, or you can use vmware server, which is free
[10:30] <Ayabara> LjL: ahh. I seem to recall receiving that advice once before too :-)
[10:30] <mumrah> emxba: thanks, i'm try it
[10:30] <LjL> Tokenbad, that sounds like something that needs 3D...? if so, notice that, while VMWare sports Direct3D support (no OpenGL), it's still very experimental
[10:30] <CaptainMorgan> 6.10 !?
[10:30] <chaoticg33k> yep
[10:30] <Flats> Is there any real need to upgrade?
[10:30] <Tokenbad> LjL, I was told by someone that runs it with mandriva that his works fine...and he recommended it to me
[10:30] <glick> hi all
[10:30] <BrightEyes`> i want to download mplayer.what should i do to adept servers to find it? [something with universe aniverse] 
[10:30] <EmxBA> what is this? can someone explain it to me kindly please? "You have not registered yet. Please have some complimentary chips. Type: !atm"
[10:30] <eXistenZ> guys don't update to edgy =/
[10:30] <LjL> Tokenbad: well, then give it a try.
[10:30] <LjL> eXistenZ: why?
[10:30] <agent> smax: you may be right... if the file changed, redownload it (template and jigdo files) - then mount your incomplete iso and use it as a source in your new jigdo download -  sorry i cannot help you because i am losing my connection (this is why my response is so delayed)
[10:30] <glick> excuse me does anyone know what i could use to merge multiple pdf files into one pdf file?
[10:30] <EmxBA> BrightEyes`: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[10:30] <caonex> how can one check if my card is using the linux framebuffer interface?
[10:30] <Tokenbad> LjL, that is why I was asking if had to download from site or could install from apt-get
[10:30] <LjL> !info pdfjam | glick
[10:30] <ubotu> pdfjam: collection of PDF document handling utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.20-2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 112 kB
[10:30] <lab1pc15> chingen a su madre no se inglish att fosy
[10:30] <glick> !info pdfjam
[10:30] <EmxBA> smax: lots of users are complaiing about that
[10:30] <MrKeuner> hi, just switched to edgy; why may I be getting too many errors? Is it certainly a problem? -->  RX packets:25085 errors:8452 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[10:30] <Ayabara> hey! it was really easy to enable multiverse and universe :-D
[10:31] <alt_f4> 1113 people in room!
[10:31] <alt_f4> aya: um, yeah it kinda is lol
[10:31] <LjL> Ayabara: you're probably the first one i hear saying that.
[10:31] <Nox_ville> !iwconfig
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iwconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <EmxBA> !wireless
[10:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:31] <alt_f4> !help these newbies
[10:31] <smax> agent I'm not first whith this problem something wrong on server
[10:31] <LjL> glick, no need to type that yourself. pdfjam is a package that allows doing what you need
[10:31] <DrSpin> !synaptics
[10:31] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo
[10:32] <lab1pc15> vayanse a la verga ahora att otra vez fosy
[10:32] <alt_f4> sorry me no speaky spanglish
[10:32] <smax> EmxBa they changed iso?
[10:32] <glick> thanks LjL
[10:32] <pike_> hmm when did ubotu changes get locked down to ops
[10:32] <EmxBA> !language|lab1pc15
[10:32] <ubotu> lab1pc15: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:32] <St_MPA3b> What Amarok output engine u use? I have some xine engines and i got extra bad sound with em :(
[10:32] <LjL> !es | lab1pc15
[10:32] <ubotu> lab1pc15: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:32] <Drac|Radio> !usplash
[10:32] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:32] <glick> sweet cause LDD3e only comes in like 17 pdf files
[10:32] <glick> what the hell
[10:32] <EmxBA> smax: looks like
[10:32] <DrSpin> Cool that the snaptics page is EMPTY!
[10:32] <ehird> how would i add a repos mirror of ubuntu-hr.org to snipe it's bandwidth? ;)
[10:32] <glick> damn the servers must be totally at their limits
[10:32] <Drac|Radio> When I do
[10:32] <Drac|Radio> err
[10:32] <glick> installing pdfjam is taking forever
[10:32] <Ayabara> LjL: I meant it's less work in edgy than in dapper :-)
[10:33] <Tokenbad> oh one other question on vmware do I actually have to install windows?
[10:33] <dontbanme> !edgy
[10:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[10:33] <lab1pc15> your mother do you like strawberry?
[10:33] <EmxBA> Amaranth: can you set me ubuntu cloak?
[10:33] <mikeymike-linux> how would i untar this file LastFM_Linux_1.0.0b.tar.bz2
[10:33] <smax> EmxBa They are fixing error's on the fly )
[10:33] <EmxBA> !language | lab1pc15
[10:33] <ubotu> lab1pc15: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:33] <Amaranth> EmxBA: nope
[10:33] <EmxBA> who can?
[10:33] <mumrah> emxBA: no dice
[10:33] <Amaranth> EmxBA: Seveas does those and you have to be an ubuntero
[10:34] <Seveas> Amaranth, member even
[10:34] <Drac|Radio> When I do "gcc -Os -g -I/usr/include/bogl -fPIC -c usplash-artwork.c -o usplash-artwork.o" for the usplash process, it gives "warning: large integer implicitly truncated to unsigned type
[10:34] <mumrah> emxBA: that was xforceversa right
[10:34] <reiki_work> Tokenbad: yes if you install VMWare in linux you need to have a widows install CD to install windows into a VM
[10:34] <lab1pc15> fuck you puto emxBA
[10:34] <Drac|Radio> Any ideas?
[10:34] <pike_> Tokenbad: yeah
[10:34] <EmxBA> !language | lab1pc15
[10:34] <ubotu> lab1pc15: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:34] <Tokenbad> reiki_work, thanks...
[10:34] <EmxBA> pls lab1pc15
[10:34] <Tokenbad> same to you pike_
[10:34] <mikeymike-linux> how would i untar this file LastFM_Linux_1.0.0b.tar.bz2
[10:34] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[10:34] <morphish> Seveas: what is included in the term "BiArch" as ubuntu understands it? just running 64/32bit on same system? or building 32bit as well as 64bit on that system?
[10:34] <POVaddct> kick em Seveas
[10:34] <user-land> i get 404 not found for the skype repository. is there a version running on amd64 systems ?
[10:34] <BrightEyes`> what should i do to adept servers to find all the packages? [something with universe ] 
[10:34] <EmxBA> Seveas: can i get ubuntu cloak? i'm ubuntutero - check launchpad.net/people/emxba
[10:34] <ehird> any eyedeers?
[10:34] <pike_> Tokenbad: or just point the cdrom to a windows.iso
[10:35] <LinuxGuy2006> #ubuntu broke FreeNode
[10:35] <Seveas> EmxBA, you need to be ubuntu member
[10:35] <Ayabara> and a one-liner for restricted formats. what a start!
[10:35] <gnu2it2> can ubuntu understand solaris slices on a dvd? is there some trick in mounting the dvd ?
[10:35] <ehird> mikeymike-linux: drop the -linux from your name and learn about tar
[10:35] <gopp> hey I am getting mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //gopunix/Music,
[10:35] <boson_> Where can I find the 686 kernel for Edgy?
[10:35] <mikeymike-linux> ehird, tar and bzip
[10:35] <Seveas> boson_, linux-generic
[10:35] <smax> what book reader you can advice me I heard about kniga and pybook reader
[10:35] <Bagoor> I need gmake command. which package must be installed ?
[10:35] <dontbanme> !edgy
[10:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[10:35] <EmxBA> Seveas: ubuntu member? like member of loco team or?
[10:35] <gopp> why do I get this error if smbfs is the fiel system
[10:35] <finalbeta> boson_, synaptic
[10:35] <boson_> finalbeta: I tried that
[10:35] <finalbeta> boson_, use the generic kernel
[10:35] <gopp> !fs type
[10:36] <Drac|Radio> Anyone? Please. I've broken my splash and this is for a customer.
[10:36] <Seveas> !member
[10:36] <Seveas> !search member
[10:36] <glick> ouch this is killing me!
[10:36] <glick> heh
[10:36] <gopp> !smbfs
[10:36] <EmxBA> !splash | Drac|Radio
[10:36] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 900 kB
[10:36] <ubotu> Drac|Radio: To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[10:36] <ubotu> Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[10:36] <pike_> boson_: should be there apt-cache search image | grep 686
[10:36] <ubotu> Found: planet,iirc,member,compiling,aptitude,password
[10:36] <St_MPA3b> What Amarok output engine u use? I have some xine engines and i got extra bad sound with em :(
[10:36] <smax> !member
[10:36] <Drac|Radio> EmxBA: Not that! -.-
[10:36] <amonkey> woow edgy! where can i fnd a list of the versions of the software that are included on the edgy cd?
[10:36] <epretorious> anyone here familiar with the mct_u232 module (for usb-serial conversion)?
[10:36] <Drac|Radio> EmxBA: That's simple crap. I'm talking about usplash!
[10:36] <EmxBA> !usplash | Drac|Radio
[10:36] <ubotu> Drac|Radio: usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:36] <EmxBA> ok
[10:36] <boson_> pike_: I looked. It's not. Will the generic kernel include a 686 one? At the moment I'm running 386
[10:36] <finalbeta> Drac|Radio, reinstall it with purge option?
[10:36] <glick> i think i'll stick to dapper for a while
[10:37] <DBO> boson_, generic kernel provides optimizations on demand
[10:37] <ehird> i wish i knew how to add a repos mirror :x
[10:37] <boson_> DBO: Including Hyperthreading?
[10:37] <profoX`> did anyone already try Vmware workstation or Vmware server on edgy eft ?
[10:37] <DBO> boson_, it provides smp on demand yes
[10:37] <profoX`> hi DBO ^^
[10:37] <agent> amonkey: try wiki edgyreleasenotes for the major changes - download the file list if you want to be exact :)
[10:37] <Drac|Radio> finalbeta: Explain
[10:37] <glick> nvidia came out witha  fix for their driver lately to patch a serious hole, its not in the multiverse repos yet?
[10:37] <boson_> Thanks DBO
[10:37] <morphish> Seveas: anyway that space is now there, but i saw how little wiki compatability i have
[10:37] <glick> i would think it would be since its such a big hole
[10:37] <lupine_85> glick: nope
[10:37] <Drac|Radio> EmxBA: I followed the instructions and explained my error. Don't be a jerk.
[10:37] <DBO> hi profoX`
[10:37] <boson_> DBO: linux package or linux-generic package?
[10:37] <DBO> =)
[10:37] <eXistenZ> Why the **** do you release a version when it is full of bugs?
[10:38] <EmxBA> Drac|Radio: ok, i'll stop
[10:38] <lupine_85> and it'll be in security anyway, when/if it comes out in the repos
[10:38] <pike_> boson_: glick i think its still beta right?
[10:38] <pike_> boson_: sorry wrong nick
[10:38] <PapaLion> edgy is no longer ubuntu+1! Yes!
[10:38] <glick> pike_, nah its not betta
[10:38] <ehird> !nowhiningaboutedgy | eXistenZ
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nowhiningaboutedgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <DBO> boson_, linux-generic
[10:38] <ehird> darn
[10:38] <Seveas> eXistenZ, this is a support channel, not a 'let all yourfrustrations out' channel
[10:38] <Syrra> The ah, "upgrade tool" doesn't seem to be downloading after I tried to upgrade using gksu "update-manager -c". Should I try again later?
[10:38] <lupine_85> hehehe
[10:38] <morphish> Seveas: the reason i asked about 32bit apps is that running 32bit binaries on a 64bit system is pretty trivial (and does not involve running a (s)chroot )
[10:38] <eXistenZ> ehird, didn't werhk!
[10:38] <jdhoreOTG> i have a question, it's prolly pretty common, but it's something i want to find out
[10:38] <MattJ> I can't access the reps, either my mirror or the main :/
[10:38] <miojo> guys, Firefox is crashing when I access any https website and running it as normal user. the problem does not occur when I run as sudo. anybody know something about this?? :D
[10:38] <epretorious> anyone here familiar with the mct_u232 module (for usb-serial conversion)?
[10:38] <profoX`> eXistenZ: dapper drake is the Long Term Support release, ubuntu can afford releasing a version that is a little experimental..
[10:38] <PapaLion> anyone know if there is an automatix for edgy yet?
[10:38] <miojo> Guys, Firefox2-edgy is crashing when I access any https website and running it as normal user. the problem does not occur when I run as sudo. anybody know something about this?? :D
[10:39] <Syrra> oop
[10:39] <Syrra> nevermind
[10:39] <Seveas> !repeat | epretorious
[10:39] <Syrra> Glee
[10:39] <EmxBA> !repeat | miojo
[10:39] <ubotu> miojo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:39] <Ayabara> where did the 'Administration->Disks' choice go in edgy?
[10:39] <boson_> I actually managed up upgrade to edgy with only a slight hiccup
[10:39] <glick> miojo, cause its bug-ridden as hell
[10:39] <morphish> Seveas: i will ask again once the release rush is over ;)
[10:39] <ubotu> epretorious: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:39] <glick> as is any new released SO
[10:39] <glick> OS
[10:39] <miojo> glick: what do you mean
[10:39] <glick> hence ill run dapper for another year
[10:39] <dontbanme> what does the generic kernel do? someone said it provides optimizations on demand - can anyone elaborate?
[10:39] <LjL> !automatix | PapaLion
[10:39] <ubotu> PapaLion: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[10:39] <miojo> glick: lol
[10:39] <POVaddct> epretorious: i only know the pl2303 module, cause my usb serial converter uses that
[10:39] <glick> miojo, edgy got released today, its gonna be chock full of bugs
[10:40] <Drac|Radio> When I do "gcc -Os -g -I/usr/include/bogl -fPIC -c usplash-artwork.c -o usplash-artwork.o" for the usplash process, it gives "warning: large integer implicitly truncated to unsigned type" over and over again.
[10:40] <Drac|Radio> Can anyone explain why?
[10:40] <DBO> dontbanme, like 3dnow and sse extensions are enabled on demand (if the processor supports them)
[10:40] <pike_> miojo: if you pkill firefox; rm -fr .mozilla and relaunch it still does it?
[10:40] <jdhoreOTG> i use Debian and i installed Ubuntu on my dad's computer so he could try out Linux (and Ubuntu is, IMO a bit mor noobish version of Debian) in debian, i can su to be root for a terminal session, in Ubuntu, i can't, why can't i su in Ubuntu?
[10:40] <morphish> dontbanme: it's more that the arch speciic kernels sseem to show little to now benefits over the generic one and thus only one is provided
[10:40] <ehird> which directory is sources.list in?
[10:40] <boson_> jdhoreOTG: You can open a root terminal
[10:40] <DBO> !sudo | jdhoreOTG
[10:40] <ubotu> jdhoreOTG: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:40] <fuoco> what can i do if there's a (critical) bug that never got fixed in dapper and not in edgy either ?
[10:40] <pike_> miojo: that will remove bookmarks
[10:40] <Seveas> Drac|Radio, you're using very outdated instructions
[10:40] <profoX`> Seveas: did your usplash editor program make it into edgy or edgy repositories? :)
[10:41] <profoX`> or was that not finisht yet
[10:41] <Seveas> profoX`, no
[10:41] <profoX`> finished*
[10:41] <dontbanme> ok, and if I want arch specific features enabled, do I have to do it manually?
[10:41] <POVaddct> jdhoreOTG: ubuntu uses sudo for root access
[10:41] <jdhoreOTG> i know about sudo, but i'd rather be root for all commands if i'm doing a lot of stuff
[10:41] <glick> damn #kernel is dead :(
[10:41] <boson_> jdhoreOTG: Again, you can open a root terminal
[10:41] <miojo> pike_, yes, it still does crash
[10:41] <Drac|Radio> Seveas: I just installed them...
[10:41] <dontbanme> jdhoreOTG: sudo -s
[10:41] <glick> are there any other linux kernel channels on freenode?
[10:41] <morphish> jdhoreOTG: sudo su - or su - still work for me!?
[10:41] <pike_> miojo: sweet a bug
[10:41] <Ayabara> anyone? where is the gui for managing disks?
[10:41] <jdhoreOTG> ok, thanks boson_, i'll look into that...thanks
[10:41] <boson_> !repeat | dontbanme
[10:41] <ubotu> dontbanme: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:41] <boson_> sorry
[10:41] <morphish> glick: #kernelnewbies on  oftc if you have a kernel question might be a good choice
[10:42] <DBO> dontbanme, you dont need to do it manually, its done automatically
[10:42] <glick> moreati, oftc?
[10:42] <miojo> pike_, just a help over here: launchpad to submit the bug ?
[10:42] <jdhoreOTG> i forgot about sudo -s...i used to use that in OS X
[10:42] <boson_> Thanks DBO
[10:42] <glick> morphish, whast oftc?
[10:42] <dontbanme> Ayabara: disks-admin
[10:42] <miojo> pike_, and send them strace?
[10:42] <finalbeta> Drac|Radio, sry, system crash. The generic one is the one you need. Will auto choose the best config
[10:42] <profoX`> glick: irc network, like freenode
[10:42] <Ayabara> dontbanme: thanks :-)
[10:42] <morphish> glick: sorry, irc.oftc.net another irc network
[10:42] <DBO> glick, its another irc network
[10:42] <Tokenbad> ok...if I had an xp live edition...would that work with vmware?
[10:42] <Drac|Radio> finalbeta: Huh?
[10:42] <morphish> glick: i think they have www.kernelnewbies.org (or .com?) too
[10:42] <dontbanme> DBO: thanks boson_: what did I repeat? I mighta missed something, my lag is +27
[10:42] <pike_> !but > miojo
[10:42] <pike_> miojo: yeah
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about but - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <glick> oh, cool
[10:43] <pinklerose> hello
[10:43] <pike_> !bug
[10:43] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:43] <finalbeta> Drac|Radio, I was talking to you right? Or I messed up the name :p
[10:43] <pinklerose> its able to add to repository mounted iso?
[10:43] <miojo> pike_, thanks
[10:43] <CaptainMorgan> how long with lts be supported for? I mean, why not upgrade to 6.10, if for only 18 months? that's a long enough time and likely an even newer version will be out
[10:43] <Ayabara> dontbanme: what package is disks-admin in? I don't have it
[10:43] <MrKeuner> what do I need to enable 3d eye candy in edgy?
[10:43] <Drac|Radio> finalbeta: Unless you were helping me with usplash, I think you weren't
[10:43] <Drac|Radio> Seveas: *poke*
[10:43] <DBO> MrKeuner, ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:44] <ryanakca> Seveas: what's +d   ?
[10:44] <Seveas> ryanakca, +don'tcomeinhereanymorekthxbye
[10:44] <finalbeta> Ah right, I told you to reinstall usplash with purge :p
[10:44] <tdn> My machine crashed during upgrade to 6.10 while it was installing a tetex package. Now it will not boot. How do I rescue my system? Please help.
[10:44] <DBO> ryanakca, name ban I believe but I might be wrong
[10:44] <crass> what is the recommended way to configure iptables for an ubuntu box?
[10:44] <warthawg> update to 6.10 has failed for me, no access to Internet
[10:44] <eXistenZ> Why don't you take your time testing ubuntu before releasing it?
[10:44] <Drac|Radio> finalbeta: Ah. I see. I never actually installed anything called usplash. I just did all of the crap on that page...
[10:44] <ryanakca> Seveas: ah, lol
[10:44] <susscorfa> !schedule | CaptainMorgan
[10:44] <ubotu> CaptainMorgan: Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:44] <CaptainMorgan> was 6.10 rushed??
[10:44] <pinklerose> anyone knows?
[10:44] <eXistenZ> I think 6.10 was rushed!
[10:45] <eXistenZ> dapper was so cool
[10:45] <miojo> eXistenZ, I agree
[10:45] <clopo> hi, does anyone know what kernel i should run on a Pentium D chip?  (I would like to just apt-get it)
[10:45] <crass> eXistenZ: release early, release often
[10:45] <miojo> eXistenZ, except that I'm running edgy for more than one week ago
[10:45] <miojo> :D
[10:45] <DBO> eXistenZ, offtopic chatter needs to go to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:45] <boink> debian takes more times between releases
[10:45] <michaels_> when using update-manager -c to update Dapper to Edgy I run into a temporary problem resolving packages.freecontrib.org. Any good workaround?
[10:45] <tdn> CaptainMorgan, eXistenZ miojo: is 6.10 not cool?
[10:46] <miojo> tdn, it is cool, but it is buggy
[10:46] <Kawaii-Panda> in a 64-bit desktop, why would i want to install firefox32?
[10:46] <Drac|Radio> finalbeta: Mind a PM? irssi at this resolution is pretty hard to follow for individual help.
[10:46] <St_MPA3b> where is sources.list?
[10:46] <ehird> where is sources.list? :s
[10:46] <boink> in /etc/apt/
[10:46] <profoX`> Kawaii-Panda: to get flash running easily in 32bit mode? :)
[10:46] <exclude> dammit, four hours further and I still dont have my ati card back up.
[10:46] <DBO> Kawaii-Panda, for flash usually
[10:46] <fuoco> upgrade being so slow is because of heavy load on the servers these days ?
[10:46] <St_MPA3b> :D lol?
[10:46] <ehird> St_MPA3b: timing!
[10:46] <fangorious> i have a laptop with an ati firegl v5000 running dapper+xgl/compiz. if i upgrade to edgy, what should i expect regarding aiglx vs glx?
[10:46] <meat`2> after you download packages for installation and installed them, can you del the tar files?
[10:46] <exclude> grr.
[10:46] <St_MPA3b> !sources
[10:46] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:46] <tdn> miojo, ok. I haven't had a chance to try it yet. My machine crashed during upgrade so now I cannot boot :( I have no idea how to fix this.
[10:46] <St_MPA3b> xD
[10:47] <Drac|Radio> AHHH.. I can't keep track of this high-speed channel these days. ._.
[10:47] <finalbeta> Drac|Radio, sure, can't promise I can help though
[10:47] <Drac|Radio> I need X-Chat, but I can't go installing it on a customer's machine.
[10:47] <St_MPA3b> tdn: u can use livecd?
[10:47] <fangorious> voraistos: is that on wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:47] <fangorious> ?
[10:47] <voraistos> ati!
[10:47] <exclude> voraistos: care to give the url?
[10:47] <voraistos> !ati
[10:47] <voraistos> sorry
[10:47] <YHCIR> is there any way to download like 3CDs? or download the DVD and split the image into several CD images?
[10:47] <jdiaz> hi
[10:47] <tdn> St_MPA3b, what should I do from the livecd?
[10:47] <Tokenbad> is there a tutorial for installing vmware on unbuntu? and setting it up right?
[10:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:47] <voraistos> ubotu is dead or what /
[10:47] <brosnan> Kawaii-Panda: plugins
[10:48] <ehird> how would i add mirrors to sources.list?
[10:48] <Seveas> voraistos, it's so busy he can't keep up ;)
[10:48] <St_MPA3b> tdn: u can mount u'r hard from there?
[10:48] <joona> Tokenbad: just follow vmwares readme and you're good
[10:48] <pielgrzym> could anyone help me? I can't upgrade to edgy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28502/
[10:48] <chuckyp_> voraistos, no
[10:48] <eggzeck> Drac|Radio: Why do you "need" XChat?
[10:48] <steven___> hi, My resolution is 1024x768, it should be 1280x800 BUT i cant set it on 1280x800 its a laptop MSI 1029 -> any tips ??
[10:48] <jdiaz> has anyone had problems with Edgy splash screen running on vmware server?
[10:48] <CaptainMorgan> because Xchat rulez
[10:48] <yoshiznit123> hi everyone, i installed dapper for a friend and now i'd like to update his computer to edgy from a remote computer. has anybody done this before, and can it work? any pointers to how to do this (preferably with minimum interaction from his part :-) )?
[10:48] <eyequeue> yoshiznit123, you have an account on it with sudo access?
[10:48] <thrice`> yoshiznit123, ssh, edit sources.list, and dist-upgrade ?
[10:48] <tdn> St_MPA3b, I'm pretty sure that I can. But I haven't tried. If I go boot from a livecd and then mount my disks, then what? Can I rescue the system by chrooting me into the system and continue the upgrade?
[10:49] <profoX`> yoshiznit123: I wouldn't do that personally, because edgy isn't as stable as dapper imo
[10:49] <voraistos> exclude, fangorious check the fglrx section, install it the dapper way, + a little bit more for edgy
[10:49] <yoshiznit123> thrice, what would i tell him about how to install an ssh server?
[10:49] <Tokenbad> besides the core vmware package is there anything else I need to download?
[10:49] <POVaddct> CaptainMorgan: /me prefers irssi
[10:49] <Drac|Radio> eggzeck: So that I can follow the high-speed scroll buffering. I can't keep up with the channel when it keeps flying off the screen at this resolution.
[10:49] <Tripke> hi all, My resolution is 1024x768, it should be 1280x800 BUT i cant set it on 1280x800 its a laptop MSI 1029 -> any tips ??
[10:49] <eyequeue> yoshiznit123, ssh in, then sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, after you edit sources.list
[10:49] <yoshiznit123> just sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[10:49] <boink> or apt-get install ssh
[10:49] <eyequeue> yoshiznit123, yes
[10:49] <St_MPA3b> tdn: dunno =/. I' a newb actually, but i solve some problems randomly :)
[10:49] <yoshiznit123> profoX`, i think he'd like the latest features :-)
[10:49] <jdiaz> has anyone had problems with Edgy splash screen running on vmware server?
[10:49] <yoshiznit123> eyequeue, hows it goin :-), ok i'll try that thanks a lot
[10:50] <Kawaii-Panda> DBO: flash already runs fine for me with nspluginwrapper. anyway, java looks problematic, esp. on instantchess.com. is anybody ok with their java64 installation?
[10:50] <Kawaii-Panda> if ndiswrapper is causing this, im thinking of reverting to firefox32.
[10:50] <amonkey> is there a channel where we can just party about edgy?
[10:50] <eyequeue> amonkey, #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:50] <ehird> which repos is kde in?
[10:50] <eggzeck> Drac|Radio: And you "need" XChat for that? heh, I'm fine on Irssi
[10:50] <yoshiznit123> just wasn't sure if upgrading openssh from an ssh session would b0rk anything
[10:50] <ehird> i just don't get how to change my repos to mirrors
[10:50] <profoX`> yoshiznit123: yes, but whats the most important thing, latest features or a stable system that doesn't crash and that works as you expect it to work :p
[10:50] <eyequeue> ehird, main
[10:50] <tdn> St_MPA3b, well... Ok. I was hoping that someone could help me in here. But it doesn't seem like it. Unfortuneatly most of the time I can get no help in here :(
[10:50] <Kawaii-Panda> amonkey: start your own lug.
[10:50] <profoX`> !patience|tdn
[10:50] <ubotu> tdn: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:50] <yoshiznit123> profoX`, it depends :-), but shouldn't edgy be relatively stable, considering it was a release?
[10:51] <profoX`> yoshiznit123: yes.. relatively
[10:51] <eyequeue> yoshiznit123, whold be fine, but to be safe, you can open a couple of sessions with ssh first
[10:51] <lupine_85> tdn: yes you cn
[10:51] <fuoco> how come ftp download is faster than bittorrent ?
[10:51] <exclude> anyone with a hint on what to do in  case of an older ATI/radeon (<8500)
[10:51] <tdn> profoX`, I know. I am just saying that most of the time I get no help. I've waited for days on several occations.
[10:51] <exclude> it used to work Just Fine in dapper :)
[10:51] <profoX`> yoshiznit123: but dapper was a long term support release, and they took advantage of that by putting some experimental stuff in edgy
[10:51] <tdn> lupine_85, cn?
[10:51] <eyequeue> yoshiznit123, then use one to test the upgrade, before disconnecting (ssh out to your box, then back in to his box, using one of them for testing
[10:51] <lupine_85> just make sure you mount --bind /proc /path/to/chroot/proc first
[10:51] <lupine_85> erm, can
[10:51] <user-land> fuoco, how fast is it ? what mirror ?
[10:51] <yoshiznit123> eyequeue, ok, maybe i can tell him how to upgrade and then ssh in if something goes wrong
[10:51] <crass> fuoco: protocols aren't fast
[10:51] <Loof> fuoco: Given the same bandwidth FTP is more efficient.
[10:51] <fuoco> crass: i know that...
[10:52] <profoX`> yoshiznit123: this will be good in the long run, but in the short run it might cause little bugs that you don't want
[10:52] <fangorious> voraistos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI just tells how to install the drivers fglrx drivers. I was curious about specifically having all the GL stuff (like beryl or compiz). I know fglrx doesn't have the extensions that AIGLX needs, so I'm guessing I need to still run XGL to have a compositing WM like berryl/compiz
[10:52] <ehird> do i just change all the gb.archive.ubuntu.com's go ubuntu-hr.com's?
[10:52] <profoX`> tdn: this channel is always _very_ busy
[10:52] <exclude> voraistos: my card is an ATI radeon RV100 (7000) which seams unsupported by the binary drivers
[10:52] <profoX`> tdn: what was your problem anyway?
[10:52] <eyequeue> yoshiznit123, you have a phone line to talk him through it sumultaneously?  that's easiest
[10:52] <pielgrzym> could anyone help me? I can't upgrade to edgy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28502/
[10:52] <yoshiznit123> eyequeue, yea that's probably best
[10:52] <Ayabara> what package must I install to get disks-admin?
[10:52] <yoshiznit123> profoX`, but edgy has all the cool new features
[10:53] <yoshiznit123> :-)
[10:53] <ehird> :/
[10:53] <yoshiznit123> and btw everybody should try flash 9 for linux, which was released a couple days ago. its awesome :-)
[10:53] <yoshiznit123> the beta, that is
[10:53] <asdx|work> is correct to say "this is how real mans do" ?
[10:53] <tdn> profoX`, I know. It is not that I don't have the time to wait. It's more that it feels that nobody is able to help me. I have a screen on IRC 24/7 and I often post a question and wait a couple of days with no answer. Then I give up..
[10:54] <profoX`> yoshiznit123: not tht many new features i think :) anything special you are wanting in edgy?
[10:54] <tdn> profoX`, the problem is that my machine crashed during upgrade from 6.06->6.10. Now i refuses to boot.
[10:54] <PapaLion> can anyone recommend a decent, inexpensive pcmcia wireless card that will work alongside ubuntu?
[10:54] <Drac|Radio> eggzeck: Do I need to emphasize the fact that the resolution was the problem?
[10:54] <profoX`> tdn: for hard questions I prefer to use forums myself..
[10:55] <yoshiznit123> tdn, what's the problem (what messages do you get?)
[10:55] <ehird> I'll ask just one more time, do i Just change all the blah.ubuntu.com's in sources.list to ubuntu-hr.com's?
[10:55] <boson_> Anyone know how to get NetworkManager to recognize my wireless card?
[10:55] <eggzeck> Drac|Radio: Resolution isn't an issue. So no, don't emphasize it.
[10:55] <Loof> aptitude is too 'smart' to upgrade from dapper to edgy
[10:55] <fangorious> boson_: what chipset?
[10:55] <profoX`> tdn: people can help you better with big problems on forums imo, irc is just quick way to get some info or to solve a little problem.. but it is too busy to help everyone with difficult problems in IRC, especially since everyone who wants to help you needs the error messages etc. -- thats why I think a forum is better for this kind of thing -- especially if you don't get a response for days :)
[10:55] <Loof> apt-get works fine though
[10:55] <boson_> fangorious: bcm43xx
[10:55] <POVaddct> PapaLion: d-link dwl-g650 (revision c.1)
[10:55] <tdn> profoX`, yeah. Me too. It's just that I am not always around a graphical webbrowser and the textmode version of ubuntuforums is a pain. Also I have been so lucky to bump in to the times when it has been down for maintenance.
[10:55] <DarqFiber> boson -dell truemobile ?
[10:56] <boson_> DarqFiber: yes
[10:56] <profoX`> tdn: yea.. they still need server upgrade i think :p
[10:56] <Drac|Radio> eggzeck: Larger text runs by faster, you know.
[10:56] <scott> hey, is freecontrib down? (specifically the plf repo's?) caus i cant apt-get update with them :(
[10:56] <tdn> yoshiznit123, i get a "black screen" message :/
[10:56] <fangorious> boson_: ndiswrapper might work, but I have no experience with wither ndiswrapper or that chipset
[10:56] <DarqFiber> boson I have the same card
[10:56] <eggzeck> Drac|Radio: Please stop sounding like you have no idea what yo're talking about.
[10:56] <profoX`> tdn: so you can't boot.. sounds like a kernel problem with your hardware..?
[10:56] <tdn> YoussefAssad, profoX`: and I am not able to get it to respond using SysRq....
[10:56] <ryanpg> here's a weird one, when I install ubuntu-standard upstart is installed, when I then do an apt-get dist-upgrade it's removed and sysvinit is installed
[10:56] <boson_> fangorious: I can use the wireless just fine, I'm on it now. I just would like networkmanager to recognize it
[10:56] <DarqFiber> boson you will need to get the windows driver and use ndiswrapper
[10:56] <eggzeck> s/yo're/you're
[10:56] <yoshiznit123> tdn, is this after grub? did you try changing the terminal (alt-f2,3,4,5)?
[10:56] <POVaddct> profoX`: i like helping people in a shared screen session (screen -x)
[10:56] <CaptainMorgan> wow.... 1106 users
[10:57] <profoX`> tdn: do you have some output information? error info?
[10:57] <profoX`> POVaddct: hehe yea thats pretty funny
[10:57] <boson_> DarqFiber: Even if it works ok with the bcm43xx_fwcutter thing?
[10:57] <Ayabara> hmm. is there no gui for mounting disks anymore?
[10:57] <IndyBC> Hello. I succesfully installed edgy, but I don't have good refresh rate
[10:57] <DarqFiber> boson_  yep I have to blacklist the kernel drivers and use the windows driver
[10:57] <boricua> i am suprise by the release of edgy today,  since rc3 had some issues with instalation via update, what would be the recomended way to update from dapper , command line or gui?
[10:57] <IndyBC> it doesn't go higher than I have it
[10:57] <DarqFiber> are you using gnome-nm ?
[10:57] <DarqFiber> or the one that comes with edgy ?
[10:57] <IndyBC> do I need to download some driver?
[10:58] <boson_> DarqFiber: I used to do that but I had issues loading ndiswrapper when I upgraded
[10:58] <yrlnry_> i'm going to start hacking on my xorg.conf file.  Is there a safe way to do this so that if I screw everything up, I can get the old configurartion back?
[10:58] <boson_> DarqFiber: Not sure... gnome I think
[10:58] <tdn> profoX`, yeah. You're right. It's just that I am hanging around on IRC anyway... So why not try. My message before was not meant as a complaint. Merely an observation.
[10:58] <DarqFiber> gnome-network-manager ?
[10:58] <POVaddct> profoX`: however that requires logging into their machine via ssh, which can be tricky if they are behind a nat router and have no port forwarding
[10:58] <PapaLion> POVaddct:  do you know anywhere online that selsl that?
[10:58] <CaptainMorgan> yrlnry_, just back up xorg.conf
[10:58] <yrlnry_> For example, I could write a cron job to restore the old xorg.conf every fifteen minutes, but maybe there's some more straightforward thing to do.
[10:58] <PapaLion> I have too wireless cards that ubuntu wont run correctly
[10:58] <eggzeck> I had to use windows drivers too, I'm on an Acer Aspire 3000, Broadcom, I love ndiswrapper
[10:58] <scott> hey, is freecontrib down? (specifically the plf repo's?) caus i cant apt-get update with them :(
[10:58] <tdn> yoshiznit123, yes. It is after grub.
[10:58] <yrlnry_> CaptainMorgan: But if things are really screwed up, I won;t be able to see in order to restart the server with the original conf file.
[10:58] <DarqFiber> neither can I
[10:59] <abo> today I'm getting an error when I try to play videos on BBC site.. they used to play quite well, and I didn't change anything in my system, any ideas?
[10:59] <profoX`> POVaddct: true..
[10:59] <boson_> DarqFiber: I'm using the ubuntu one
[10:59] <chuckyp_> scott, freecontrib isn't part of the official ubuntu repos.
[10:59] <POVaddct> PapaLion: no. i bought the card in a local store, 2 years ago. i suspect they card can only bought 2nd hand now.
[10:59] <DarqFiber> he is trying to enable PLF
[10:59] <scott> chuckyp_:  i know, but i was thinking someone here mught know if it was working or whether its just me?
[10:59] <Macow> How do I upgrade from daker to edgy(questionmark)
[10:59] <profoX`> tdn: ye i understand :p plus, it must be annoying to have a broken update to edgy
[10:59] <baconbacon> !upgrade
[10:59] <DarqFiber> chuckyp - me too
[10:59] <chuckyp_> !upgrade > Macow
[10:59] <glick> one day my pdfjam download will be complete
[10:59] <POVaddct> profoX`: but there is ssh remote port forwarding, that can solve this problem :)
[10:59] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[10:59] <tdn> profoX`, yes! It is really annoying.
[11:00] <ehird> blehhh
[11:00] <abo> there error I'm getting when I try to play the videos is:  Could not find an appropriate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use as an embedded player,
[11:00] <profoX`> POVaddct: euh? how do u mean
[11:00] <glick> i should get back to work
[11:00] <POVaddct> PapaLion: alternatively, you can google for ralink or atheros based cards
[11:00] <DarqFiber> glick shouldn't we all
[11:00] <boson_> DarqFiber: Any idea why ndiswrapper failed to work after upgrade?
[11:00] <tdn> profoX`, actually I also went to IRC because I feared that the crash was related to the upgrade so that maybe a lot of users had experienced it and a FAQ was already made...
[11:00] <chuckyp_> boson_, yes you no longer have the kernel module that you built
[11:00] <TMM> question: if I use apt-mirror to mirror a... mirror? can I just stick that dir in an apache alias and use it as a source over http?
[11:00] <docmur> Hello all
[11:01] <DarqFiber> boson_  did you blacklist the bcm drivers from the kernel ?
[11:01] <SeanTater> !restrictedformats | abo
[11:01] <Macow> Thanks
[11:01] <ubotu> abo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:01] <docmur> anyone here know about win4lin
[11:01] <boson_> DarqFiber: Yes
[11:01] <POVaddct> profoX`: i let people log in to a forwarding only ssh account on my machine, a that login provides a tunnel back to their ssh server
[11:01] <exclude> can anyone please please help me?
[11:01] <boson_> [17179601.680000]  ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:129): loadndiswrapper failed (1536); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[11:01] <boson_> [17179601.680000]  ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:136): ndiswrapper: initialization failed
[11:01] <SeanTater> TMM: sure
[11:01] <DarqFiber> my ndiswrapper is working
[11:01] <haakonn> firefox seems to crash as soon as it tries to show a flash piece, i've installed flashplayer-unfree. any ideas?
[11:01] <exclude> Ive been trying to get my ATI back up after upping to edgy for fsking 4 hours now.
[11:01] <chaoticg33k> yay for you
[11:01] <yrlnry_> how can I tell CUPS to always append a cover page to each job?
[11:01] <chuckyp_> !ask | exclude
[11:01] <ubotu> exclude: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:01] <SeanTater> TMM: but downloading every sibgle package in edgy will probably defeat the purpose
[11:01] <DarqFiber> I have a truemobile 1400 (bcm4309)
[11:01] <egd> hi ppl, quick question if I may:  what happended to disk manager under Edgy - it's disappeared from system/administration menu ?
[11:02] <mkns> I have a Sony VAIO VGN-FS315E which worked beautifully with Dapper.  I just installed (from scratch, none of this upgrade nonsense) Eft and wireless doesn't work.  Is there a specific IRC channel I could get advice from?
[11:02] <abo> SeanTater, I have realplayer and I can play real audio files, and seeing bbc file used to work, and I have the w32codecs installed too
[11:02] <profoX`> POVaddct: ahh.. yea thats also an option
[11:02] <exclude> chuckyp_: I asked like five times already
[11:02] <TMM> SeanTater: how's that?
[11:02] <tdn> profoX`, yoshiznit123: when I boot failsafe the last message I get before it crashes is: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=290
[11:02] <Paddy_EIRE> is there a dapper channel now that edgy has taken #ubuntu
[11:02] <POVaddct> profoX`: ssh -R ...   rocks
[11:02] <IndyBC> Hello. I succesfully installed edgy, but I don't have good refresh rate. From th settings, it doesn't get any higher. Do I need to download some driver?
[11:02] <Dr_willis> yrlnry_,  you may find it easiest to reenable the cups web interface and use its settings to enable that.
[11:03] <IndyBC> * the
[11:03] <jwl007> exclude, just ask the question :P
[11:03] <chuckyp_> !restricted | abo
[11:03] <ubotu> abo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:03] <profoX`> Paddy_EIRE: make your own dapper channel :p
[11:03] <Paddy_EIRE> i suppose
[11:03] <exclude> again: my X fails to load after upping to Edgy. Seems like an issue zith ATI. I am running ATI radeon which is not supported by ATI binary Driver
[11:03] <JoseStefan> Paddy_EIRE, this same channel
[11:03] <yrlnry_> Dr_willis: thanks.
[11:03] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[11:03] <exclude> it worked just fine under dapper.
[11:03] <voraistos> fangorious, exclude, sorry to be late, but this update was just a "fix" to get ATI cards using fglrx driver working properly (otherwise people get jerky graphics, due to incompatibilty with AIGLX, which makes dri crash)
[11:03] <yrlnry_> Dr_willis: how do I do that?
[11:03] <Drac|Radio>  eggzeck I'm trying to say that larger characters take up more area in the terminal window and as a result there is less text displayed on the screen. Because of this, lines get eaten by the buffer more quickly. I'm not aware of it being possible to change the resolution inside of a terminal, though I suppose I could change the font size...
[11:03] <egd> anyone know what happened to disk manager under Edgy - it's disappeared from system/administration menu ?
[11:04] <profoX`> tdn: well.. that looks weird.. must be the new init system?
[11:04] <Paddy_EIRE> If I was to upgrade to edgy now that Im running a very stable dapper which things will I loose or need to re-download
[11:04] <Dr_willis> yrlnry_,  check the wiki/forums. If using edgy not sure. :) not sure if its disabled in edgy.. for dapper. its a simple command that i always forget. I find it silly they disabled it in the first place
[11:04] <ehird> is ubuntu-hr.org updated for edgy stuff
[11:04] <Paddy_EIRE> and install
[11:04] <chuckyp_> egd, I believe its somewhere else now but can remember.
[11:04] <abo> chuckyp_ , I have realplayer and I can play real audio files, and seeing bbc file used to work, and I have the w32codecs installed too, is there anything newly added to these addresses?
[11:04] <exclude> voraistos: at the moment I really cannot be arsed how jerky my grafix look. as long as I can get off this CLI I am more then happy
[11:04] <egd> pita cause i have heaps of drives that i mount only when i need them, now i have to guess what the hell they are
[11:04] <MacSlow> Anybody constantly loosing the right-click/context menu in Firefox 2.0?
[11:04] <Drac|Radio> When I do a dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[11:04] <Drac|Radio> Damn return character...
[11:04] <Drac|Radio> dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[11:04] <Drac|Radio> AHH
[11:04] <POVaddct> thats what you get for using a binary only driver. damn all hardware manufacturers that don't release specs to the open source driver developers!
[11:05] <SeanTater> DarqFiber: Please set that info in the wifidocs tables in the wiki (That would be helpful)
[11:05] <voraistos> exclude: can u paste your xorg output in pastebin and an exact description of your problem please ?
[11:05] <tdn> profoX`, well... If some important library or something is "partly installed" maybe it could be the problem?
[11:05] <profoX`> tdn: you could try some boot parameters.. you never know.. like: noapic nolapic pci=noacpi acpi=off .. something like that used to work on my laptop..
[11:05] <chuckyp_> abo, I understand you probably still need to follow the directions from ubuntu
[11:05] <rackerz> hey, has anyone got around the fglrx issue yet?
[11:05] <Macow> Does anybody knows if XGL works properly on ubuntu running though parallels?
[11:05] <LjL> !xgl > Macow
[11:05] <tdn> profoX`, although I noticed that it was at packages beginning with "t" that it crashed during upgrade.
[11:05] <Drac|Radio> When I do a dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) it says there's no splash image. However, I have one configured. Is this a problem or is it just not detecting one in the old file?
[11:05] <profoX`> tdn: i would guess it would spit out an error, but it doesnt
[11:05] <exclude> voraistos: no, because there is no proper way to paste without x :)
[11:05] <voraistos> use w3m
[11:05] <voraistos> or lynx
[11:05] <profoX`> tdn: but then again.. i dont know much about upstart (new init) yet
[11:05] <chuckyp_> abo, you need more than just w32codecs for real player
[11:05] <Drac|Radio> (For grub)
[11:05] <ehird> whoa. where did my question get lost in the flood
[11:06] <tdn> profoX`, yeah. Me neither.
[11:06] <chuckyp_> Drac|Radio, dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`  try that
[11:06] <jwl007> !tdn
[11:06] <boink> realplayer installs nicely on ubuntu
[11:06] <jwl007> !upstart
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tdn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[11:06] <jerrcs> is /names
[11:06] <abo> chuckyp_, real video files work perfectly, and the BBC videos used to work yesterday
[11:06] <jerrcs> oops :)
[11:06] <AlReece45> Some parts of my sound system don't work in current alsa. I've tried compiling the kernel with the new drivers, but when the drivers are loaded there is a kernel panic. Now since kernel 2.6.19-rc3 contains the version of alsa that supports my sound card I tried compiling that. It starts up, loads the kernel and drivers, and then appears to do nothing, its like its not starting init. Any ideas about how to get it working?
[11:06] <Bagoor> find . -name "*.jpg" will write all the names with a ./ ! how can I remove ./ part from its first ?
[11:06] <profoX`> tdn: well.. i wish you luck :p use a live cd to mount your drives and rescue your important data :p
[11:06] <profoX`> tdn: thats what i'd do in the first place :p
[11:06] <tdn> jwl007, ?
[11:06] <jwl007> sorry, typo
[11:07] <voraistos> exclude, please join channel voraistos, so we can talk properly
[11:07] <chuckyp_> abo, herm.. well dunno.
[11:07] <exclude> voraistos: i'll try something else...
[11:07] <Rockfish> hrm, they're sure making it annoying to find a torrent on the main site
[11:07] <n3Cre0> again
[11:07] <tdn> profoX`, I have my most important data backed up, so this is not a problem :) But I would like to rescue my system anyway because of my own and my users's settings on the machine.
[11:07] <abo> chuckyp_, ok thx
[11:08] <SmiLi3n> hi
[11:08] <chuckyp_> abo, what is your doing just stoping at the connecting screen?
[11:08] <Rockfish> nm
[11:08] <Macow> By the way. What's the norwegian Mac keyboard layout called?
[11:08] <ehird> Simple question: is there NO WAY AT ALL to make kde not display gnome programs in its menu and instead ignore them and vise-versa?!
[11:08] <SmiLi3n> i would a command to impose quota for users in ubuntu
[11:08] <jwl007> Macow, dvorak
[11:08] <chuckyp_> ehird, that is correect
[11:08] <SmiLi3n> disc quota
[11:09] <ehird> chuckyp_: That's just crap.
[11:09] <Paddy_EIRE> will I loose anything in an upgrade to edgy e.g. I have proper graphics driver running and last.fm player installed and an absolute host of other apps that I can not do without...will they upgrade to the newer edgy versions if avail
[11:09] <Drac|Radio> When I update grub it can't find a splash image. Why is this?
[11:09] <tdn> profoX`, yoshiznit123: I have a photography of the monitor when it crashed during startup. Wanna see?
[11:09] <cheesy> do i have to backup, to upgrade?
[11:09] <profoX`> tdn: euhm, sure :) but i dont think it will help
[11:09] <abo> chuckyp_ , it's stopping on "transferring data from ..." and showing the error message in a messagebox
[11:09] <eyequeue> cheesy, have to, no.  should, yes
[11:09] <Macow> hmm, dvorak does not have the
[11:10] <Dr_willis> ehird,  not that i have seen they all make .desktop entrys so they are all shown in both.
[11:10] <chuckyp> abo, which plugin are you using mplayer?
[11:10] <glick> ls
[11:10] <Macow> uhm
[11:10] <Drac|Radio> Eh. I'll figure this out on my own.
[11:10] <Macow> dvorak does not seem to be right
[11:10] <ehird> dr_willis: looks like i'll stick with gnome then
[11:10] <ehird> i dont want to just remove gnome instantly
[11:10] <Macow> the
[11:10] <ehird> anyway this chan is sucking up my bandwidth
[11:10] <ehird> see you guys ;)
[11:10] <Dr_willis> ehird,  i dont find the gnome menu items an issue.. i mix and match gnome + kde apps.
[11:10] <ehird> Dr_willis: i don't like using non-native apps.
[11:11] <Dr_willis> whatever.....
[11:11] <Macow> the alpha key is on the wrong place
[11:11] <abo> chuckyp, how can I tell?
[11:11] <designdreamz> i want to install ubuntu on a poweredge 1850.. i am having problems with the scsi drives.. anyone here experienced in dell poweredge scsi controllers?
[11:11] <kri_> hi, why does network-manager not find my atheros card which works
[11:11] <chuckyp> abo, well does it say mplayer on your screen or realplayer?
[11:11] <IndyBC> Hello. I succesfully installed edgy, but I don't have good refresh rate. From the settings, it doesn't get any higher. Do I need to download some driver?
[11:11] <chuckyp> abo, in the box where the rm would play?
[11:11] <abo> realplayer
[11:11] <abo> chuckyp, it used to say realplayer
[11:11] <chuckyp> IndyBC, you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:12] <abo> chuckyp now there is nothing .. just blank screen
[11:12] <chuckyp> abo, well perhaps you need to reinstall realplayer.
[11:12] <dutchy> Are the ubuntu update servers a bit slow because of the release? its going at 100kb/s and i have 100mbit :>
[11:12] <chuckyp> dutchy, yes
[11:12] <abo> mmm ok
[11:12] <tdn> profoX`, http://thomasdamgaard.dk/tmp/IMG_6558.jpg
[11:12] <gnel> Hi, can someone tell me what kernel version does ubuntu 6.10 has ?
[11:12] <abo> chuckyp, ok .. thx I'll try that
[11:12] <IndyBC> chuckyp: I think I will edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:12] <IndyBC> chuckyp: but what should I change?
[11:12] <chuckyp> gnel, 2.6.17
[11:13] <ragnar_123> some admin: see http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu there is a typo, on the danish linuxpusher url...
[11:13] <gnel> chuckyp: Thanks...
[11:13] <chuckyp> IndyBC, the range for you monitor or video card
[11:13] <IndyBC> chuckyp: ok. I will try to find it
[11:13] <tdn> ragnar_123, yeah. "o" instead of "p".
[11:13] <Paddy_EIRE> chuckyp: Im using the "k7" kernal on dapper will edgy pull down the appropriate kernal during upgrade
[11:14] <Drac|Radio> !usplash
[11:14] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[11:14] <Drac|Radio> bookmarking it this time.
[11:14] <ragnar_123> exactly... i meant is should be fixed..
[11:14] <Rockfish> Is there any chance that DMA will be turned on by default in edgy for cd-rom drives?
[11:14] <chuckyp>  Paddy_EIRE it should.  But most likely will default to linux-image-i386   ; however, you can change to linux-image-generic by installing that package.
[11:15] <Tokenbad> when i try to run the vmware installer it says detects a vmware software already installed...
[11:15] <ehird> what's WINE's graphical configurator named?
[11:15] <IndyBC> chuckyp: What should I change in order to change the range of my monitor?
[11:15] <ragnar_123> winecfg
[11:15] <profoX`> tdn: looks scary..
[11:15] <Dr_willis> Rockfish,  it is on my install
[11:15] <tdn> ragnar_123, yeah. Unfortuneatly I am not an admin. So I can't do it.
[11:15] <tdn> profoX`, yeah :/
[11:15] <ehird> ragnar_123: isn't graphical
[11:15] <JoseStefan> !xconfig | IndyBC
[11:15] <ubotu> IndyBC: xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:15] <ehird> plus it doesn't work
[11:15] <ragnar_123> okay
[11:15] <scott> hi, im trying to play/stream an asx file off of gamespot via the totem firefox plugin, the plugin plays wmv9, mpeg etc all fine (ive got all codecs) but where the player should be for the asx file it just leave it blank and no player appears? ive looked in firefox about:plugins and the extension .asx isnt there, so  iassume its because it isnt configured to run .asx how can i make it do so?
[11:15] <chuckyp> !refresh
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about refresh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <profoX`> im beginning to think they rushed edgy a bit fast, eventhough it was already known that it would become a little bit experimental, tdn
[11:16] <ragnar_123> tdn: i just guessed some admin were in channel...
[11:16] <chuckyp> IndyBC, ahh I see its not int here by default
[11:16] <javier> hello guys
[11:16] <chuckyp> IndyBC, hold up
[11:16] <IndyBC> chuckyp: ok
[11:16] <gnomefreak> ragnar_123: for that typo please join #ubuntu-doc and let them know
[11:16] <ehird> Failed to open the service control manager.
[11:16] <ehird> fixme:ole:ITypeInfo_fnRelease destroy child objects
[11:16] <ehird> -- wine
[11:16] <FlimFlamMan> is there a particularly fast mirror i could use for Eft or should i just use archive.ubuntu.com ?
[11:16] <ehird> or, --winecfg
[11:16] <ehird> dunno why it doesn't work
[11:16] <ehird> flimflamman: ubuntu-hr.org
[11:16] <tdn> ragnar_123, ok. I don't know if there is. But maybe try the forums?
[11:17] <concept10> I installed upstart on my system without any jobs, any suggestions on how to get the jobs on my system?  After reading, I found out that I do not have the upstart-compat-sysv package installed.
[11:17] <enyc> Question...
[11:17] <chuckyp> IndyBC, no it is Section "Monitor"
[11:17] <PPAAUULL> How would I upgrade to edgy from dapper?
[11:17] <IndyBC> chuckyp: ok, and what should I change?
[11:17] <chuckyp> !upgrade | PPAAUULL
[11:17] <ubotu> PPAAUULL: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[11:17] <JoseStefan> PPAAUULL, read topic
[11:17] <kmaynard> !upgrade
[11:17] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[11:17] <enyc> ?what is best way to update this desktop to edgy? -- boot 'alternate' cd  or... change sources.list and update online... ?
[11:17] <PPAAUULL> thanks
[11:17] <chuckyp> enyc, /topic
[11:18] <tdn> profoX`, WOW! For some unknown reason it just rebooted a few times and now it comes further (one more line of output!) and then it crashed. Now I also get the line [timestamp]  kjournald starting. Commit interfal 5 seconds.
[11:19] <ku> !internet sharing
[11:19] <tdn> profoX`, also I noticed that SysRq does work in safe mode.
[11:19] <d-E-u-S-2> how i can create a desktop icon on XFCE ??
[11:19] <godmachine81> i have easyubuntu hacked and tarred up for edgy
[11:19] <godmachine81> if anyone wants it let me know
[11:19] <godmachine81> plus i added Seveas repo to the code
[11:19] <evilmegaman> It seems grub is screwed up because when I boot the hard drive without the CD, I get an error saying "NTLDR is missing". But if I boot the hard drive with the cd, it boots grub and everything's fine
[11:19] <enyc> chuckyp: ok... can do the script on the cd... hrrm
[11:20] <kermitX_> what do i look for in dmesg to see if this system has usb 2.0 or just usb 1.1 ??
[11:20] <chuckyp> enyc, yeah
[11:20] <enyc> chuckyp: didnt know that existed... thought normally would boot from cd first
[11:20] <slinky_> i am visually disabled, having problems keeping up with screen, can anyone help me with problems installing a second disk drive?
[11:20] <profoX`> tdn: errr...
[11:20] <progek> Hi everyone, every time I insert a blank DVD R or RW nothing mounts. Any ideas?
[11:20] <profoX`> tdn: :/
[11:21] <thelsdj> progek: nothing is supposed to mount i don't think
[11:21] <Dr_willis> progek,  what would mounting a blank one do?
[11:21] <chuckyp> progek, make sure you have a cdrom line in your /etc/fstab for the auto mount.
[11:21] <progek> Well, i'm trying to burn an iso
[11:21] <progek> but k3b does not detect a DVD
[11:21] <chuckyp> progek, acutally yeah I don't believe it will mount a blank disk.
[11:21] <thelsdj> progek: well just insert and then go into file manager and right click the iso
[11:21] <earthian> hello. i see that something is using 50% of my total CPUs power. However i do not see what exactly is happening in the system. Neither TOP neither gnome-system-monitor are showing any task that is using that processor usage. There is only this line in TOP command: Cpu(s): 52.4% us,  7.0% sy,  0.0% ni, 40.6% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
[11:22] <earthian> can someone tell me what is happening in my system ???
[11:22] <notwist_> hi, when i try to play music in amaroK it just skips the song and says "playlist finished". playing music works fine in xmms, so what am i doing wrong?
[11:22] <progek> ok, will try that thanks
[11:22] <chuckyp> earthian, perhaps that multiple items are using that much cpu
[11:22] <bwlang> anybody know why the torrent files for edgy have been distributed to the mirrors?  Would't things work better if everybody was using the same torrent?
[11:22] <earthian> chuckyp, another line from TOP: Tasks: 128 total,   2 running, 126 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
[11:23] <chuckyp> earthian, like one using 7% one using 13%  etc.. up to 50.2%
[11:23] <earthian> well exactly
[11:23] <Dr_willis> bwlang,  huh?
[11:23] <slinky_> i can not edit fstab because it belongs to root, how do I do this
[11:23] <earthian> none process is using that much power all together!
[11:23] <Dr_willis> bwlang,  if every torrent file is pointing to the same torrent.. they are the same torrent
[11:23] <chuckyp> earthian, well you can sort top to see which one is using the most with > or <  if you press those while its running.
[11:23] <d-E-u-S-2> how i can create a desktop icon on XFCE ???
[11:23] <bwlang> Dr_willis: so every mirror
[11:23] <notwist_> slinky_: use the "sudo" command to do things as root
[11:23] <chuckyp> !sudo > slinky_
[11:23] <earthian> the top is already showsing the most CPU active ones...
[11:23] <znoob> Here's one that's been bothering me for a bit: How can I set a permission on a directory that can't be overridden? So let's say the dir is drwxrwxr-w . Somebody uploads a -rw-r--r-- . How can I make sure that the file magically gets -rw-rw-r-- automagically? cron job (ugh)?
[11:23] <chuckyp> d-E-u-S, maybe try #xubuntu
[11:23] <Dr_willis> bwlang,  i could email you a .torrent file.. if its the same .torrent file info i am using.. they are getting the same stuff.
[11:23] <earthian> i belive its default at the startup
[11:23] <slinky_> i did a sudo -i in terminal but how do i edit a file in terminal?
[11:24] <Dr_willis> !edit
[11:24] <bwlang> Dr_willis: ah - good, i thought they were all pointing to their  own mirror  - i guess it's just slower than i expected
[11:24] <eetfunk> how do i get ubuntu upgrades (edgy) from mtu.edu?  i was told its much faster
[11:24] <chuckyp> earthian, well ifyou add those up you will get %50.2
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <Paddy_EIRE> slinky_: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:24] <Dr_willis> bwlang,  a .torrent dont use mirrors. :) thats the point of torrents
[11:24] <abo> chuckyp, thanks, reinstalling worked
[11:24] <chuckyp> abo, kk
[11:24] <Dr_willis> bwlang,  they may have some torrent seed servers....
[11:24] <Drac|Radio> I've carefully followed the usplash customization guide. I now have a splash that consists of a black screen with fuzzy bits on it. On the first line of gcc I get " warning: large integer implicitly truncated to unsigned type" for what appears to be every line in the file. Can anyone help me?
[11:24] <Paddy_EIRE> slinky_: gksudo for graphical apps
[11:24] <slinky_> thank you
[11:24] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[11:25] <earthian> hm :S
[11:25] <pak-x> hi
[11:25] <earthian> i only count at most 10%
[11:25] <bwlang> Dr_willis: yeah - i know, but that why i was confused by the directions that say you have to go to the mirror get the torrent.  Why not just put a link right on the main page?
[11:25] <chuckyp> earthian, there is more than one page as well.
[11:25] <lampshade> Have there been problems with people who are currently running XGL upgrading?
[11:25] <progek> ok, I tried it again using k3b but it tells me to insert a the DVD rom, "waiting for disk".
[11:25] <chuckyp> earthian, ps aux will show you everything running.
[11:25] <Dr_willis> bwlang,  :)   why not put the torrent link in the topic as well. :)
[11:25] <Macow> !firefox
[11:25] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:25] <Dr_willis> bwlang,  but i got edgy 3 days ago and just upgraded every day heh
[11:26] <Paddy_EIRE> does edgy ship with "aiglx" or "xgl/compiz"
[11:26] <progek> I can burn iso on CDRs without a problem but I need to use a DVD this time :/
[11:26] <pak-x> i want to deactivate my onboardsoundcard in ubuntu. how can i do that?
[11:26] <chuckyp> I'm seeding the torrent right now.
[11:26] <d-E-u-S-2> xubuntu users here?
[11:26] <chuckyp> Paddy_EIRE, no
[11:26] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[11:26] <chuckyp> Paddy_EIRE, well no xgl
[11:26] <chuckyp> !aiglx
[11:26] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[11:26] <Dr_willis> d-E-u-S,  you may want to go to the XFCE homepage and read their docs.
[11:27] <Drac|Radio> Does anyone have experience in customizing usplash?
[11:27] <Paddy_EIRE> chuckyp: although it does ship with aiglx
[11:27] <chuckyp> d-E-u-S, or ask in #xubuntu  /j #xubuntu
[11:27] <d-E-u-S-2> kk ;D
[11:27] <Dr_willis> for the 5th time.. :)
[11:27] <pixelPOET> any fluxers here?
[11:27] <chuckyp> Dr_willis, lol
[11:27] <Dr_willis> With linux it pays to go read about stuff. :)
[11:27] <d-E-u-S-2> oh yea :D
[11:27] <rixxon> i got X11 working now, a tip to those with problem: apt-get your drivers (xserver-xorg-driver-foo and xserver-xorg-video-foo where foo is your stuff)
[11:27] <Dr_willis> d-E-u-S,  and i dident think xubuntu had icons on the desktop.
[11:27] <chuckyp> Most problems in this channel can be solved by SEARCHING GOOGLE
[11:27] <Dr_willis> or xfce that is.
[11:27] <chuckyp> !google
[11:27] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[11:27] <Paddy_EIRE> chuckyp: if so is it enabled by default, I have direct rendering enabled for my ati radeon 9250 will this still be enabled after the upgrade
[11:27] <Drac|Radio> Dr_willis: Where have you been? :P
[11:28] <Jinkguns> Yay, I got the department to allow me to install ubuntu of my workstation. :D
[11:28] <Jinkguns> *on
[11:28] <godmachine81> http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=check_download&ufid=0BA4FABF56FB8A08&key=54fa3e8c5e63d5b5bf2261d91dfed780b86ff348     EasyUbuntu  modified to work with edgy and added repos
[11:28] <Dr_willis> Drac|Radio,  it may be the live cds i use that have streamlined versions.
[11:28] <chuckyp> Paddy_EIRE, you may have to reinstall what ever ati drivers you had.  Worst case scenario
[11:28] <godmachine81> someone let me know if they have problems
[11:28] <gnomefreak> godmachine81: not in here
[11:28] <earthian> ehh? is upgrade already out? :)
[11:28] <Dr_willis> Drac|Radio,  about the only time i use XFCE is on the wolvix livecd
[11:28] <chuckyp> zen2, lol
[11:28] <Drac|Radio> Dr_willis: There are no icons by default, but you can put them there.
[11:28] <godmachine81> gnomefreak:: k
[11:28] <gnomefreak> godmachine81: use ubuntu-offtopic or #easyubuntu for that i would perfer the latter
[11:28] <Paddy_EIRE> chuckyp: does not sound to bad, the default dapper drivers worked fine
[11:28] <Macow> A mac keyboard is such complicated. How do i type a tidle?
[11:29] <pak-x> i just wanna use my external Soundcard, but how can i deactivate my onboardsoundcard? i hav no option in the hardwaremanager
[11:29] <Dr_willis> Drac|Radio,  so its just .desktop files in the Desktop dir eh. :)
[11:29] <sybelio> hola
[11:29] <chuckyp> !google -i -l10 test
[11:29] <zen2> [Google]  Displaying the first 10 results of 93,300,000 for test (0.04s)
[11:29] <Drac|Radio> Dr_willis: That for special applications, but otherwise you can just have files in your /home/user/Desktop dir and they'll show up.
[11:29] <zen2> [Google]  #1 Test Central Home ( http://test.com/ )
[11:29] <zen2> [Google]  Desc: n/a
[11:29] <zen2> [Google]  #2 Bandwidth Speed Test ( http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/ )
[11:29] <zen2> [Google]  Desc: n/a
[11:29] <chuckyp> wow cool
[11:29] <zen2> [Google]  #3 Geek Out with the Original Geek Test ( http://www.innergeek.us/geek.html )
[11:29] <chuckyp> lol
[11:29] <matsur> http://www.copypot.com/1028 any idea whats going on w/ dist-upgrade here?
[11:29] <zen2> [Google]  Desc: n/a
[11:29] <zen2> [Google]  #4 SparkLife ( http://community.sparknotes.com/ )
[11:29] <zen2> [Google]  Desc: n/a
[11:29] <zen2> [Google]  #5 Testing Foundations - Brian Marick ( http://www.testing.com/ )
[11:29] <Drac|Radio> Who will help me with usplash? I'm having an awful time.
[11:29] <zen2> [Google]  Desc: n/a
[11:30] <zen2> [Google]  #6 Political Compass ( http://www.politicalcompass.org/ )
[11:30] <NET||abuse> I want to move up to edgy on my desktop machine, do i just replace the dapper with edgy in sources.list, do apt-get clean; apt-get dist-upgrade; will that do it?? or is there a step i'm missing?
[11:30] <zen2> [Google]  Desc: n/a
[11:30] <chuckyp> matsur, use gksu "update-manager -c"
[11:30] <rixxon> are there many people with X11 problems?
[11:30] <Drac|Radio> rixxon: All the time. Easy to fix, though.
[11:30] <slinky_> i'm sorry i lost the name of the graphics terminal editor, may i have it again?
[11:30] <rixxon> Drac|Radio: yea, i fixed it. what is your solution?
[11:30] <chuckyp> pak-x, To disable onboard sound check out your bios.  Everything on board should be listed int here.  If not it may be controlled by a jumper on your mobo
[11:31] <Ademan> how do i turn off orca?
[11:31] <pixelPOET> rixxon, depends on the problem.
[11:31] <Drac|Radio> rixxon: Eh?
[11:31] <bouncing> Downloading the sources files, apt-get seems to have downloaded a corrupt copy and keeps saying "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format" -- can I clear its cache of sources files?
[11:31] <G0oW> can someone help me out?
[11:31] <chuckyp> Ademan, killall orca
[11:31] <G0oW> my computer is not letting me login to gaim
[11:31] <Drac|Radio> Maybe I can just give it the default splash..
[11:31] <gnomefreak> bouncing: is it a gz or a bz2?
[11:31] <chuckyp> G0oW, are you getting errors?
[11:31] <pixelPOET> G0oW, any errors?
[11:31] <G0oW> yes
[11:31] <pak-x> i have no option there to do that? maybe it gives an advanced bios or so ?
[11:31] <zmutte> Hey, anyone who has a link to a thread forum or a guide for changing charset in latest ubuntu server? Have been searching but nothing works.
[11:31] <Sybux> Hi, I'm just looking for an howto to upgrade my ubuntu server dapper to edgy
[11:31] <pixelPOET> G0oW, ...what are they?
[11:31] <matsur> chuckyp, no root on my computer...
[11:31] <G0oW> etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp
[11:31] <G0oW> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "s0rd"
[11:31] <G0oW> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[11:31] <G0oW> SESSION_MANAGER=local/Ubuntu:/tmp/.ICE-unix/6143
[11:31] <G0oW> (gnome-panel:6214): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_scale_simple: assertion `dest_width > 0' failed
[11:31] <G0oW> Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1
[11:31] <bouncing> gnomefreak: It's a gz. If I download the URL it has by hand, the file is fine. I think it just cached a truncated copy
[11:31] <chuckyp> G0oW, since i can't read  your screen what are they
[11:31] <G0oW> (gnome-panel:6214): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -9 and height 24
[11:32] <chuckyp> G0oW, lol
[11:32] <G0oW> =X
[11:32] <gnomefreak> G0oW: stop pasting
[11:32] <apjone> exit
[11:32] <jbinder> hi
[11:32] <rixxon> pixelPOET, Drac|Radio : apparently the edgy update set i810 as driver but did not install it.
[11:32] <gnomefreak> bouncing: one you packed?
[11:32] <chuckyp> G0oW, that has nothing to do with gaim
[11:32] <jbinder> errors were encountered while processing: gnome-terminal, xbase-clients, gnome-app-install, gnome-bluetooth, hwd-client-gnome, firefox-gnome-support, libgksu1.2-1, hal-device-manager, python-gnome2-extras, serpentine, python-gnome2-extras-dev
[11:32] <jbinder> when upgrading to edgyu
[11:32] <tdn> profoX`, more screenshots: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/tmp/ubuntu-crash.html  (got SysRq to work)
[11:32] <dutchy> Sybux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades im guessing this will work for server too
[11:32] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: you there?
[11:32] <Sybux> dutchy : thx
[11:32] <bouncing> gnomefreak: It's http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz
[11:32] <matsur> chuckyp, nothing requiring authentication accepts my password!
[11:32] <progek> why do blank cd roms mount but not blank dvd roms? I still cannot get k3b or any other burning software to recognize I have a blank dvd rom in the drive.
[11:33] <gnomefreak> bouncing: oh
[11:33] <slinky_> can someone please give me the name of the graphical terminal editor so i can edit fstab
[11:33] <gnomefreak> bouncing: run sudo apt-get update again
[11:33] <pixelPOET> slinky_, gnome-terminal?
[11:33] <slinky_> yes
[11:33] <dutchy> Sybux: for those things, always check help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:33] <bouncing> gnomefreak: It keeps giving me the same message, but I don't think it's trying to download it again.
[11:33] <gnomefreak> jbinder: is ubuntu-desktop installed? please check with apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop
[11:33] <chuckyp> matsur, use the password for your first created user.  If you created a root account you must use that.
[11:33] <matsur> im using the password for my first user... no root acct
[11:34] <chuckyp> progek, Why don't you try mounting it manually and seeing if it works.
[11:34] <corevette> is edgy coming out today?
[11:34] <matsur> launching synaptic doesnt work either
[11:34] <pixelPOET> corevette, it's out.
[11:34] <boink> edgy did come out today
[11:34] <Dr_willis> corevette,  im allready using it.  :)
[11:34] <chuckyp> matsur, make sure that user is on the sudoers file
[11:34] <corevette> lol sorry
[11:34] <chuckyp> !sudo > matsur
[11:34] <corevette> just saw it in the news
[11:34] <progek> chuckyp, thanks. would that be by doing sudo mount /cdrom?
[11:34] <lee> I just installed ubuntu 6.06, and just saw the upgrade to 6.10 available, so I ran gksu "update-manager -c" as the announcement says... it's running, but it's going *really* slowly (currently about 8 hours left at 10k/sec), is there a clean way to cancel the upgrade so I can do it when the servers are slightly less busy?  or pick a nearby mirror?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> bouncing: it may be a server issue. can you please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:34] <bouncing> gnomefreak: Sure. Although I doubt it's a server issue, as I can download and unzip the specified URL find.
[11:35] <chuckyp> progek, well I don't know how to mount a blank media type but something like sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[11:35] <boink> lee: that's why I'll upgrade later :)
[11:35] <chuckyp> progek, hrm.. well you're mounting a ddvd I don't know how to do that also.
[11:35] <matsur> chuckyp, the admin group has sudo privs and i am an admin
[11:35] <Dr_willis> you dont mount blank media..  the cd burning tools  write to the device.. not the mounted device.
[11:35] <chuckyp> progek, keep in mind it doesn't need to be mounted to be burned to.
[11:35] <dutchy> lee: im having the same problem (going 100kb/s @ a 100mbit connection)
[11:35] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: I'm in a meeting atm. What do you need?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> bouncing: bouncing you cant untar a repo in the sense i think you mean
[11:35] <gopp> in ubuntu why do I get this password error
[11:35] <gopp> 19094: session setup failed: ERRSRV - ERRbadpw (Bad password - name/password pair in a Tree Connect or Session Setup are invalid.)
[11:35] <slinky_> pixelPoet, Gnome terminal is yes
[11:35] <jbinder>  /me cries
[11:35] <chuckyp> progek, mounting is merely for ease in reading not burning.
[11:35] <pixelPOET> bouncing...in case you don't know use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to paste. im sure we dont want your entire sources list in the channel. :P
[11:35] <[H] 3b0R> anyone got any nvidia beta driver repository that works?
[11:36] <bouncing> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.ca/223347
[11:36] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: nm then sorry to bother you
[11:36] <gnomefreak> jbinder: is it installed?
[11:36] <Tokenbad> if I install a program with apt-get and then use apt-get remove does it really remove everything? cause I installed vmware-player and then tried to install vmware-server and the server says the vmware software already installed then quits...so I removed vmware player and it still says that when try to install vmware server...any help please?
[11:36] <mariano> do you guys provide help as far as installation goes?
[11:36] <jbinder> gnomefreak: its doing something else
[11:36] <earthian> erm... maybe it will sound newbish.. but why does apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade does not upgrade my dapper to edgy ?? :(
[11:36] <pixelPOET> slinky_, soo....you're problem is solved? or...no?
[11:36] <jbinder> gnomefreak: hold on
[11:36] <boink> !ask
[11:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:36] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, apt-get --purge would remove everythign
[11:36] <progek> I see, well I get a no medium found. I wonder why k3b cannot see the disk
[11:36] <slinky_> pixelPOET no
[11:36] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, and you can do it after you did just a remove  --purge will rmeove the configs
[11:36] <cpk2> alright guys here's the deal, I want to get my sensors to work in kubuntu (cpu and board temp, fan speed would be nice too) and yes my motherboard supports this. where would I start to figure how to get this to work?
[11:36] <bouncing> gnomefreak: This is the full text of the error: http://pastebin.ca/223350
[11:37] <lee> I must admit, I was very impressed with the 6.06 installer, this is a brand new laptop (centrino 2 duo based), ubuntu installed a hell of a lot easier and quicker than windows did, down to making the WNIC work right off the bat and even getting the obscure resolution right too
[11:37] <djmccormick> if i install something like lighttpd, will it start up automatically? same for mysql, etc.
[11:37] <mariano> ok, I am running suse 10.1 on my tablet pc. I was wondering if ubuntu can also work on my tablet?
[11:37] <djmccormick> or is there something i need to edit
[11:37] <chuckyp> mariano, we are just volunteers in here.
[11:37] <gnomefreak> bouncing: ok comment out the backports and add multiverse to the security repo
[11:37] <pixelPOET> slinky_, ...so what's the problem?
[11:37] <IndyBC> How can I remove the Trash and the Computer icon from my Edgy Eft desktop?
[11:37] <mariano> gateway m275
[11:37] <borisyeltsin> hi, in openoffice when I click in text already written and try to write more it writes over the text already there instead of inserting. how do I fix this?
[11:37] <[H] 3b0R> anyone got any nvidia beta driver repository that works?
[11:37] <chuckyp> mariano, perhaps search the forums for you specific model and see if people have had problems
[11:37] <bouncing> pixelPOET: Yes, I'm aware of pastebin... although I didn't know ubuntu had its own now. :)
[11:37] <slinky_> pixelPoet, I am visually impaired, i need to edit fstab to mount a drive that is owed by root
[11:37] <mariano> ok
[11:37] <chuckyp> !google -i -l2 gateway m275
[11:37] <djmccormick> boricua: join #openoffice.org
[11:37] <gnomefreak> bouncing: that is an error out of your control
[11:38] <djmccormick> wrong person... borisyeltsin: join #openoffice.org
[11:38] <earthian> erm... maybe it will sound newbish.. but why does apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade does not upgrade my dapper to edgy ?? :( can someone answer quickly? maybe i need to change my sources.list ???
[11:38] <borisyeltsin> djmccormick: noone is anwering in @users.openoffice.org
[11:38] <bouncing> gnomefreak: Well, I think what happened was that it downloaded a truncated file and it's not fetching a new one. Because I can download that file and ungzip it.
[11:38] <profoX`> tdn: sorry i was busy ^^
[11:38] <boink> earthian: paste your sources.list in pastebin
[11:38] <gnomefreak> earthian: gksudo "update-manager -c"
[11:38] <Macow> !firefox
[11:38] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:38] <lee> earthian: on the "new in edgy" page, it says to run: gksu "update-manager -c"   then click update
[11:38] <chuckyp> earthian, you need to use gksu "update-manager -c"  or you can /topic to read the directions
[11:38] <jbinder> gnomefreak: ubuntu-desktop: Installed: (none), candidate: 1.3, version table: 1.30 0
[11:39] <gnomefreak> jbinder: thats why you have errors
[11:39] <pixelPOET> slinky_, ...i still don't understand what you are asking...please be more specific. if you open the terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" you will be able to add what is necessary
[11:39] <gnomefreak> jbinder: install it
[11:39] <jbinder> gnomefreak: what does that mean, and how do i fix it
[11:39] <tdn> profoX`, ok.
[11:39] <earthian> ok thanks lee && chuckyp  :)
[11:39] <matsur_> chuckyp: something is very screwy
[11:39] <profoX`> tdn: this screen ttp://thomasdamgaard.dk/tmp/IMG_6559.jpg doesnt look healthy.. seems like something is causing a problem.. related to kjournald ?? i dont know..
[11:39] <Macow> someone should seriously fix the keyboard settings. Its a disaster typing in bash on a MAC.
[11:40] <_steven_> Can someone help me figure out how to get Edgy to boot?
[11:40] <profoX`> oops forgot the h :
[11:40] <lee> earthian: you may want to wait a day or two, the download speeds are currently far from optimal
[11:40] <mariano> well, I guess my question si really this, does the xorg conf file work in the same way in ubuntu as it does on suse?
[11:40] <Dr_willis> mariano,  for the most part. there may be some littel changes
[11:40] <slinky_> thank you pixel Poet, how do i remove ownership of my second drive, I just added, from root?
[11:40] <earthian> thanks lee.. and np. i have entire night. will leave PC on for the upgrade and will go to sleep ;)
[11:40] <rwscold> it holds are ur hardware setting s and config
[11:40] <mariano> cool
[11:40] <ehird> is it suicide to apt-get remove gnome and all gnome aps and then install kde-core?
[11:40] <dutchy> oh nice, the speed just improved to 225kb/s :>
[11:40] <tdn> profoX`, well... What does not look healthy on it?
[11:41] <rwscold> i dont know suse tho
[11:41] <profoX`> tdn: the call trace ?
[11:41] <pixelPOET> slinky_, ...i'm not sure exactly...did you try chown?
[11:41] <pixelPOET> !chown
[11:41] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:41] <profoX`> tdn: means it crashed somewhere..
[11:41] <IndyBC> Hello. How can I remove the Trash and the Computer icon from my Edgy Eft desktop?
[11:41] <tdn> profoX`, the call traces are just from SysRq. They should not be scary :)
[11:41] <TubaSoldier> ehird, install kde then remove gnome. removing gnome while using it can cause issues.
[11:41] <profoX`> tdn: ooh..
[11:41] <boink> both suse and ubuntu use x.org
[11:41] <pou52> hi
[11:41] <profoX`> tdn: :p i didnt know
[11:41] <tdn> profoX`, you do now :)
[11:41] <matsur_> hey all, all X apps refuse to accept my password now
[11:41] <Tokenbad> chukyp --purge don't seem to be working
[11:41] <matsur_> i can log into the console
[11:41] <matsur_> but not even into X
[11:41] <rwscold> I used suse briefly long time ago
[11:41] <tdn> profoX`, Go to your console and press alt+SysRq+t. Then you get a task list with call traces.
[11:42] <pou52> i am wondering why i can open photos on my xp box but not play movies nor mp3's
[11:42] <boink> ubuntu has no yast2 :)
[11:42] <tdn> profoX`, no danger :)
[11:42] <slinky_> pixelPoet, no, I am new to Linux but have been doing puter since 1964, what is !chown?
[11:42] <TubaSoldier> matsur, use passwd in the console to reset your unix password. That should do it.
[11:42] <pou52> if i bring them in my ubunto box it plays with no problems
[11:42] <ehird> TubaSoldier: 1964? unlikely!
[11:42] <edgy> Hi, In edgy firefox doesn't display the website text! e.g aljazeera.net I can't see some of the arabic text though some parts appear properly
[11:42] <ehird> TubaSoldier: computers were hardly usable until the 70s at least
[11:42] <TubaSoldier> ehird, I never said anything about 1964
[11:43] <profoX`> tdn: hmm well ok :p
[11:43] <ehird> oops
[11:43] <TubaSoldier> slinky did though
[11:43] <ehird> wrog person
[11:43] <ehird> i meant slinky_
[11:43] <TubaSoldier> np
[11:43] <profoX`> tdn: but i got to go :D
[11:43] <ehird> sorry :p
[11:43] <profoX`> tdn: good luck on fixing your system ....
[11:43] <ehird> so slinky_: prove yerself ;)
[11:43] <tdn> profoX`, ok. Thanks. And thanks for your help.
[11:43] <_steven_> can someone tell me how I can get edgy live cd to load X? it always fails and it doesn't revert to a command prompt to let me edit xorg.conf
[11:43] <evilmegaman> how do I shut down X so I can install the nvidia driver?
[11:43] <profoX`> tdn: I couldn't help :( but np
[11:43] <slinky_> autocoder sps IBM 1410
[11:43] <profoX`> later
[11:43] <jabra> no release notes are posted yet
[11:43] <jabra> http://www.offensive-security.com/downloads.html
[11:43] <Tokenbad> can anyone else tell me how the apt-get --purge would work?
[11:43] <Aaargh> anyone else having intermittent connection problems to repositories on edgy (looks like multiverse in particular).  its taking an age to dl headers (20kb/sec!)  other net activity is OK
[11:44] <jabra> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes
[11:44] <tdn>  profoX` thanks for trying anyway.
[11:44] <pixelPOET> slinky_, ... chown changes the ownership of directories...im assuming it SHOULD work on /dev/hda whatever...im not sure...ts a shot in the dark
[11:44] <rambo3> !paste
[11:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:44] <pixelPOET> "man chown" in the terminal
[11:44] <_steven_> can someone tell me how I can get edgy live cd to load X? it always fails and it doesn't revert to a command prompt to let me edit xorg.conf
[11:44] <ushineko> heh, nice...ubuntu+1 got nailed. nice way to redirect users :-)
[11:44] <Dr_willis> evilmegaman,  i never need to shut it down to isntall them.. i just restart X afterwards
[11:44] <chuckyp> !tell ubotu browns  The browns if a NFL team in Cleveland that really sucks.  They will never have an offensive line worthy to play in the NFL.
[11:44] <Flats> I am logged in as an admin user.  I am in my home directory and I need to create a directory to mount my new hard disk too.  What is the best way to do this?  ALl the docs say to just mkdir /???  however I don't have permission to make a directory.  Should I sudo /??? and make a dir?
[11:44] <matsur_> does anyone have any ideas on my predicament? in quite a bind here not being ablse to log into X
[11:44] <slinky_> thank you pixelPoet
[11:44] <IndyBC> Hi guys. How can I remove the Trash and the Computer icon from my Edgy Eft desktop?
[11:44] <LjL> chuckyp: don't play with the bot please
[11:44] <chuckyp> IndyBC, yes
[11:44] <evilmegaman> dr_willis, The nvidia drivers force me to exit X...
[11:45] <profoX`> tdn: np..  bye
[11:45] <TubaSoldier> matsur_ when you boot can you see GDM?
[11:45] <eyequeue> Flats, you can mkdir in your home, but if you want to off the root, then sudo mkdir /foo, yes
[11:45] <IndyBC> chuckyp: btw, I just changed vesa with ati, the drivers ;-)
[11:45] <tdn> PreZ, bye.
[11:45] <IndyBC> chuckyp: and it worked
[11:45] <[H] 3b0R> anyone got any nvidia beta driver repository that works?
[11:45] <Dr_willis> evilmegaman, what drivers? i just apt-get install the things...
[11:45] <IndyBC> chuckyp: how will I remove the trans and the computer icons from my desktop?
[11:45] <matsur_> TubaSoldier: i'm too nervous to reboot with an incomplete edgy, i will ctrl alt backspace though
[11:45] <slinky_> pixelPoet, have a nice day
[11:45] <boricua> i am suprise by the release of edgy today,  since rc3 had some issues with instalation via update, what would be the recomended way to update from dapper , command line or gui?
[11:45] <IndyBC> * trash
[11:45] <TubaSoldier> matsur_  does that work?
[11:46] <evilmegaman> Oh I want to install the beta drivers
[11:46] <eyequeue> boricua, command line
[11:46] <pixelPOET> well that was different...
[11:46] <corevette> where do i ifnd the links to download 6.1 off torrents?
[11:46] <TubaSoldier> matsur_ it sounds like there is an issue with your xorg.conf file.
[11:46] <eyequeue> !upgrade
[11:46] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[11:46] <Dr_willis> IndyBC,  check the forums/wiki/gnome faqs - i think it may need to use that Gconf editor
[11:46] <ltR^> I've got edgy working
[11:46] <ltR^> :)
[11:46] <_steven_> can someone tell me how I can get edgy live cd to load X? it always fails and it doesn't revert to a command prompt to let me edit xorg.conf
[11:46] <eyequeue> corevette, 6.10 mirrors have the .torrent on them
[11:46] <rwscold> Steven What exactly does it do???
[11:46] <chuckyp> IndyBC, gksudo gconf-editor  then click apps > nautilus > desktop and uncheck the trash and computer iconf visible
[11:46] <IndyBC> Dr_willis: ok
[11:46] <eyequeue> _steven_, alt-crtl-f1 should get you to a command prompt
[11:47] <Tokenbad> ok if I type sudo apt-get --purge it just gives me the command stuff like if I just did apt-get...anyone know why?
[11:47] <matsur_> TubaSoldier: it just went from bad to worse, now i have issues w/ nvidia dirvers
[11:47] <TubaSoldier> matsur_ it sounds like there is an issue with your xorg.conf file.
[11:47] <corevette> eyequeue i can't find it
[11:47] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, sudo apt-get --purge packagename
[11:47] <finalbeta> When using proftpd I get  - no such group 'nobody' - Fatal: Group: Unknown group 'nobody' on line 19 of '/etc/proftpd.conf' anyone who knows how to fix this? Forgot what it was
[11:47] <matsur_> TubaSoldier: that cant be the whole story, that doesnt explain me not being able to authenticate
[11:47] <eyequeue> Tokenbad, the --purge switch sayd "any remove make a full purge instead" so it will only effect things that get removed
[11:47] <_steven_> rwscold, default ati driver never works with my graphics card, so I have to change xorg.conf to radeon driver
[11:47] <matsur_> and i have a borken X because dist-upgrade stopped halfway!
[11:47] <ProN00b> when dist-upgrading to edgy i am getting a lot of locale errors like "perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C")."
[11:47] <TubaSoldier> are you in the command line right now?
[11:47] <Flats> OK I noe created a folder by sudo /windows.  I then did a sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /windows and it mounted.  The problem is that I can't write to it.
[11:48] <_steven_> but it doesn't show a command prompt after X fails, but I haven't tried what eyequeue said
[11:48] <eyequeue> corevette, did you scroll down the holw page and look?  it should be there
[11:48] <matsur_> TubaSoldier: me? yes
[11:48] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, i.e. sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename    maybe thats it?  I can't remember I use aptitude
[11:48] <Tokenbad> chuckyp I did that and it tells me invalid command
[11:48] <rapt501> hi does anyone know how to print color to the consol in java
[11:48] <Flats> err sudo mkdir  /windows
[11:48] <rwscold> steven i am having a similar problem i was just wondering what exactly it looks like
[11:48] <TubaSoldier> matsur_ if you are in the command line then you can type passwd to set a new password.
[11:48] <mirak> for me edgy is an catastrophe
[11:48] <djmccormick> i messed up my .bashrc file and can't seem to login. how can i use another username to go repair the file?
[11:48] <mirak> the kernel is crashing
[11:48] <chuckyp> rapt501, /j #java
[11:48] <djmccormick> i don't seem to be able to su
[11:48] <corevette> eyequeue found it thanks
[11:48] <mirak> I got a reiserfs corruption, I couldn't even boot
[11:48] <eyequeue> _steven_, you might find useful info in /var/log/Xorg.0.log too, perhaps
[11:48] <rapt501> ok thanks
[11:48] <pixelPOET> djmccormick, try "sudo passwd root"
[11:48] <eyequeue> corevette, cool
[11:48] <chuckyp> djmccormick, you could boot to recover mode and fix it
[11:48] <sc0tt> Flats: sounds like it needs remounting with read/write
[11:49] <_steven_> eyequeue: and how do I view that? this is a brand new install
[11:49] <pixelPOET> djmccormick, set the password...then try to "su" again
[11:49] <matsur_> TubaSoldier: I'm well aware. I can log into the console, i know my password. X doesnt recognize my PW though, i couldnt log into synaptic or anything that required priv escalation
[11:49] <mirak> all this things started to happen, at the moment generic kernels where introduced
[11:49] <Flats> is there a way to tell
[11:49] <TubaSoldier> djmccormick, su is disabled by default. everything is done with sudo. if you want su then you can sudo bash and set a password for root
[11:49] <sc0tt> are you familiar with terminal?
[11:49] <eyequeue> djmccormick, that is NOT recommended, just sudo -i, don't set a root password
[11:49] <chuckyp> matsur_, reset your password and make sure you user is in sudoers file
[11:49] <ProN00b> when dist-upgrading to edgy i am getting a lot of locale errors like "perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").", does anyone know why ?
[11:49] <matsur_> chuckyp: i have done both
[11:49] <djmccormick> i can't sudo because this user isn't in the sudoers file
[11:49] <chuckyp> ProN00b, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:49] <TubaSoldier> matsur_, yeah. listen to chuckyp
[11:49] <mariano> before I take the plunge from suse and windows to suse, I should ask one last question. Should I install edgy or dapper?
[11:49] <IndyBC> How can I make the windows, appear like they did in Dapper?
[11:49] <Flats> o0h yeah'
[11:50] <eyequeue> ProN00b, yes, that's because it hasn't finished configuring perl yet, but it will eventually
[11:50] <Flats> whoops yes I'm very familiar with terminal
[11:50] <MutantX> how do i enable /proc/acpi/sleep on a toshiba a100 sk9 laptop with a phoenix bios?
[11:50] <chuckyp> mariano, edgy
[11:50] <Macow> root@maclinux:/opt# tar -C -zxvf firefox-2.0.tar.gz
[11:50] <Macow> tar: You must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' options
[11:50] <ProN00b> eyequeue, should i worry about ?
[11:50] <Macow> wot?
[11:50] <chuckyp> mariano, dapper has long term support though but its up to you.
[11:50] <mirak> are you sure GENERIC KERNELS are 100% safe ? Because I really have crashs since they were introduced into edgy
[11:50] <eyequeue> ProN00b, if it bothers you, abort with ^C, sudo dpkg --configure -a, then restart the command
[11:50] <sc0tt> Flats: sudo mount in a termnial should give you the currently mounted things
[11:50] <mariano> well, the ubuntu community is large enough as far as help goes right?
[11:50] <Phlosten> mariano: dapper has long term support, edgy is cutting edge,. depends what you want
[11:50] <dou213> why ain't #ubuntu+1 working?
[11:50] <pixelPOET> mariano, no doubt =] 
[11:51] <mariano> I can't afford Phone support
[11:51] <chuckyp> Macow, tar -zxvfC firefoxblah.tar.gz
[11:51] <eyequeue> dou213, disabled for a day or so, forwards here
[11:51] <ProN00b> eyequeue, well, thats what i am concerned about, will it bother me later ?
[11:51] <sc0tt> and if i remember rightly, that shoulds mounted read/write/only too
[11:51] <Flats> dev/hdd1 on /windows type ext3 (rw)
[11:51] <djmccormick> if i need to edit a file under my main username and only have one other user and that user isn't in the sudoers file, what can i do?
[11:51] <TubaSoldier> mariano, you dont have to pay for it. you can get support here or on ubuntuforums.org
[11:51] <chuckyp> mariano, well then perhaps check out edgy.  Its up to you.
[11:51] <Flats> looks OK to me
[11:51] <eyequeue> ProN00b, it didn't here at least
[11:51] <[H] 3b0R> any norwegian people here?
[11:51] <Sgeo> Does installing tor automagically set up the computer to use tor?
[11:51] <sc0tt> Flats: Its mounted read/write then
[11:51] <sc0tt> :P
[11:51] <chuckyp> !nw
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <ProN00b> eyequeue, ok, i am going to do all those funny dpkg commands after the upgrade then
[11:51] <chuckyp> !norwegian
[11:51] <Phlosten> mariano: i was going to stick with dapper for a while, but edgy has some nice new software which is handy
[11:51] <mariano> well, I am an econ students studying technology and third developing countries. I am hoping to learn about linux and its effects on third world economies
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about norwegian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <eyequeue> djmccormick, you can "su otheruser" if you know that user's password
[11:51] <mariano> so I need a stable distro
[11:52] <Nox_ville> hey dudes... i need to get my root password.. running "sudo passwd" doens't work....
[11:52] <TubaSoldier> mariano, if you need stable then stick with dapper.
[11:52] <sc0tt> mariano: i'd suggest dapper
[11:52] <sc0tt> :P
[11:52] <Nox_ville> or set...
[11:52] <rwscold> mariano i would use dapper for now
[11:52] <djmccormick> eyequeue: i know the password but the .bashrc file is messed up and terminates the session immediately
[11:52] <eyequeue> Nox_ville, no you do not !  read the bot
[11:52] <mariano> cool
[11:52] <rwscold> atleast for a couple of weeks
[11:52] <eyequeue> !root > Nox_ville
[11:52] <TubaSoldier> mariano, edgy just came out today. wait a few months and check back on its status.
[11:52] <chuckyp> mariano, check out the home page they have info about what they do for third world countries etc... there is edubuntu and stuff of that nature.
[11:52] <sc0tt> djmccormick: sudo mv /path/to/bashrc /other/place
[11:52] <sc0tt> ?
[11:52] <sc0tt> :P
[11:52] <G0oW> is there anything like XGL for ubuntu?
[11:52] <chuckyp> mariano, then I would try dapper
[11:53] <djmccormick> sc0tt: but the only user i have access with is not in the sudoers file
[11:53] <eyequeue> !xgl > G0oW
[11:53] <dark_> how i do for enable sudo command for a user in ubuntu server?
[11:53] <cambrant> when i try to boot the Edgy live cd on i386, the computer hangs with a blinking underscore after showing the ubuntu loading screen for a while. does anyone know how to avoid this?
[11:53] <Sgeo> How long will it take for the Upgrade?
[11:53] <jvai> hey peeps, i figured the command in tcpdump for packet capturing in wifi.. it's "tcpdump -i eth1"... the MAN pages r the beast..!!
[11:53] <evilmegaman> How do I exit X?
[11:53] <mariano> is there a way to install via mware?
[11:53] <G0oW> im looking for something like it, because my friend's messed up
[11:53] <Macow> root@maclinux:/opt# tar -zxvfC firefox-2.0.tar.gz
[11:53] <Macow> tar: C: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[11:53] <boink> Sgeo: depends on many factors
[11:53] <chuckyp> cambrant, try booting in safe graphics mode
[11:53] <mariano> I dont have any blank cds here. So I can only download the image
[11:53] <G0oW> so im looking for something similar to it
[11:53] <Macow> It|s there
[11:53] <G0oW> !xgl
[11:53] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:53] <sc0tt> Macow: No "C"
[11:53] <chuckyp> Macow, try it without the -C optoin
[11:53] <tazman> how to comand promt to install...
[11:53] <Macow> ok
[11:53] <Sgeo> Hours?
[11:53] <lsald> does the kernel automatically update for daylight savings time?
[11:54] <eyequeue> G0oW, see that channel
[11:54] <DShepherd> evilmegaman: you running gnome or kde?
[11:54] <chuckyp> tazman, /topic
[11:54] <IndyBC> The nautilus' windows appear small and without a menu or a path bar. How can I change it? I want them to appear like they did in Dapper.
[11:54] <Macow> woah, that worked
[11:54] <boink> Sgeo: maybe
[11:54] <G0oW> ty
[11:54] <dark_> how i do for enable sudo command for a user in ubuntu server?
[11:54] <Syco54645> does anyone know how to increase the heap size in java?
[11:54] <bbrazil> lsald: nothing to do with the kernel
[11:54] <eyequeue> lsald, if you have a dst timezone set
[11:54] <chuckyp> !sudo > dark_
[11:54] <evilmegaman> DShepherd: gnome
[11:54] <DShepherd> evilmegaman: jump to a terminal and type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:54] <Nox_ville> k.. i need to set up my wireless network card and get into a netwoek.
[11:54] <mariano> what is the easiest way to install if I only have the ubuntu image with me
[11:54] <boink> the reason for that is that all of the ubuntu servers are getting pounded now
[11:54] <cambrant> chuckyp: i'll try that for now. thanks.
[11:54] <Nox_ville> *network
[11:54] <chuckyp> Syco54645, /j #java or ##java
[11:54] <boink> I'll update in a few weeks :)
[11:54] <mariano> I dont have a blank cd or usb key
[11:54] <bretzel> Hi there - I am here to gooby Ubuntu -- Edgy released, burn fresh Edgy, install, reboot -- >>> No sound, no network
[11:54] <chuckyp> mariano, /topic
[11:54] <DShepherd> evilmegaman: srry type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:54] <mariano> ok
[11:55] <lsald> it is just that this is the first place i have ever been where all the systems are in a DST tz... none of them are GMT/UTC
[11:55] <tazman> tring to install limewire
[11:55] <evilmegaman> Oh okay thanks DShepherd
[11:55] <Nox_ville> !ping
[11:55] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[11:55] <sc0tt> !ping
[11:55] <sc0tt> :(
[11:55] <TubaSoldier> mariano, if you dont have a disk then look into shipIt.
[11:55] <eyequeue> lsald, my systems are all utc, but if i set it to something like est5edt, it would auto-switch, yes
[11:55] <dou213> edgy eft is out! how can i check if i need the i386 version or amd64?
[11:55] <mariano> ok
[11:55] <mariano> thanks
[11:56] <sc0tt> dou213: what processor do you have? :>
[11:56] <bretzel> And still GMT - 4:00 since hoary - Me in GMT -5:00
[11:56] <TubaSoldier> mariano, they will send you a disk for free, you just have to wait for it.
[11:56] <mariano> well guys, thaks for answering my never ending questions :)
[11:56] <egoleo> how do i open a .chm files on linux
[11:56] <lsald> thank you.
[11:56] <mariano> cool
[11:56] <dou213> that's what i need to check... from a windows box :(
[11:56] <chuckyp> egoleo, google for .chm file extension
[11:56] <Surak> could someone please provide me a link to solving wifi problems on ubuntu? I have a sitecom wl-121v2 and I want some directions on configuring it.
[11:56] <sc0tt> dou213: you're on windows now?
[11:56] <sc0tt> and want to switch to ubuntu?
[11:56] <TubaSoldier> mariano, depending on what part of the world you are in. it will take 4-8 weeks.
[11:56] <egoleo> ok
[11:56] <Surak> egoleo: with wine
[11:56] <Nox_ville> !setting up wireless
[11:56] <mariano> yes
[11:56] <chuckyp> Surak, google wl-121v2 ubuntu
[11:57] <mariano> ok,
[11:57] <egoleo> s wine file.chm?
[11:57] <sc0tt> mariano: where abouts do you live?
[11:57] <dark_> chuckyp: dont work
[11:57] <Sgeo> I sort-of need it to do a project later
[11:57] <Nox_ville> !setting up wireless
[11:57] <mariano> well, I have a cd to burn at home
[11:57] <dou213> sc0tt, yes
[11:57] <mariano> I'm just at work, and i'm trying to install it
[11:57] <sc0tt> dou213: right click on "My Computer", click Properties
[11:57] <Surak> chuckyp: this is obvious. If it worked, I woulnd't be here.
[11:57] <chuckyp> !sudo | dark_
[11:57] <ubotu> dark_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:57] <mariano> but, I guess i will just wait a few hours
[11:58] <sc0tt> At the bottom, under "Computer:", what does it say?
[11:58] <mariano> sorry, I'm just excited :)
[11:58] <chuckyp> Surak, bet I can find it
[11:58] <Nox_ville> !why do i have a huge mo-foing ping?
[11:58] <TubaSoldier> mariano, Ubuntu does not have a net install. so the only way to isntall it is to download the iso and burn it to a disk.
[11:58] <Nox_ville> !ping
[11:58] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[11:58] <mariano> ok
[11:58] <Nox_ville> !wireless
[11:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:58] <dou213> ok, it's x86 based computer
[11:58] <mariano> cool
[11:58] <Surak> egoleo: no. This is a help file from windows. You need to install wine and look for winhelp
[11:58] <Boll> How do I make gnome use iso-8859-1 as the default input encoding instead of utf-8?
[11:58] <axisys> i like the ping response.. very funny
[11:58] <Nox_ville> !wine
[11:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:58] <sc0tt> so you need i386 ;)
[11:58] <dou213> so i need i386
[11:58] <sc0tt> yep
[11:58] <Sgeo> Can I leave the kernel at the current version?
[11:58] <sc0tt> :)
[11:58] <dou213> exactly
[11:58] <dou213> :)
[11:58] <Nox_ville> !bluetooth
[11:58] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:59] <concept10> why does everyone try to update on the same day
[11:59] <sc0tt> concept10: they got excited
[11:59] <sc0tt> :>
[11:59] <notwist> is there any way to update ubuntu without reinstalling everything? i mean, i want everything just as it is now, just update ubuntu
[11:59] <Boll> !utf-8
[11:59] <Surak> chuckyp: bet. so find it.
[11:59] <Tokenbad> ok if I type sudo apt-get --purge vmware-player it just gives me vmware-player invalid command...anyone know why?
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about utf-8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <chuckyp> Surak, Is that a new card?  Or just very uncomon?
[11:59] <Sgeo> Tokenbad, I'm pretty sure you need something like remove
[11:59] <chuckyp> !wifi > Surak
[11:59] <Sgeo> Or maybe apt-get purge
[12:00] <chuckyp> Surak, worst case scenario if the card is not suppoorted you could try ndiswrapper
[12:00] <chuckyp> !ndiswrapper > Surak
[12:00] <pixelPOET> !fluxbox > pixelPOET
[12:00] <sc0tt> purge or remove?
[12:00] <eyequeue> Tokenbad, dpkg --purge, not apt-get --purge
[12:00] <sotos> i have got a problem with sagem 800
[12:00] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, sudo apt-get remove --purge thispackagesucks
[12:00] <bretzel> #join #fedora
[12:00] <sotos> i follow the instructions from the offical ubuntu howto
[12:00] <Surak> chuckyp : ndiswrapper is a last-resort option, thanks. I was looking for the first document you pointed. That will do. Thanks!
[12:00] <sotos> but nothing works
[12:00] <Nox_ville> does any1 know of a good wireless network manager?
[12:00] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, that would pruge thispackagesucks