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[04:41] <WorkRoey> hi :)
[04:41] <WorkRoey> does upstart enable parallelizable booting?
[04:42] <WorkRoey> (and shutting down/restarting)
[04:59] <Md> yes
[05:03] <WorkRoey> cool.
[05:03] <WorkRoey> I hope it speeds up booting significantly...
[05:03] <WorkRoey> and that Debian Proper accepts it.
[07:10] <phsdv> Hi all. Did anyone mannage to get upstart running on a non-ubuntu machine?
[07:11] <phsdv> My machine does boot but errors on the scripts in /etc/event.d
[07:27] <Roey> anyone here know how much time upstart's parallelized booting shaves off of Ubuntu's booting time?
[07:29] <_ion> Ubuntu still uses sysv-rc via the upstart compatibility layer.
[07:29] <Roey> oh....erg.
[07:29] <Roey> so there are plans to move completely to upstart?
[07:30] <_ion> The next release, probably.
[07:30] <Roey> neat, ok.
[07:31] <Roey> thjanks
[09:27] <concept10> I really need help.  I installed upstart on my Edgy install and it will not boot.  it loads kernel only and says it has no more jobs.
[09:28] <concept10> Suggestions to start debugging this?
[09:30] <concept10> anyone around?
[09:42] <concept10> anyone around?
[09:44] <concept10> is there a way to manually get upstart to boot my system from the CLI?
[11:16] <concept10> I installed upstart on my system without any jobs, any suggestions on how to get the jobs on my system?  After reading, I found out that I do not have the upstart-compat-sysv package installed.
[11:19] <_ion> Don't you have the ubuntu-minimal package installed? It depends on every necessary package.
[11:20] <concept10> I am not sure about that package
[11:20] <concept10> but my Edgy install was working before I installed upstart
[11:21] <mbiebl> Install upstart-compat-sysv and you should be fine.
[11:21] <concept10> Problem now is that I cant boot into my system.  Meaning no networking
[11:21] <_ion> Boot with init=/bin/bash
[11:21] <_ion> Install ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard
[11:22] <concept10> _ion: you mean from where?
[11:22] <concept10> grub?
[11:22] <_ion> The installer should have installed them in the first place.
[11:22] <_ion> Yes.
[11:22] <mbiebl> Boot, then run /etc/init/rcS && /etc/init/rc 2
[11:22] <_ion> init.d
[11:22] <concept10> Okay, let me get this right, because right now I have to boot into windows to get onto the net
[11:23] <_ion> After running rcS and rc 2 you should have networking.
[11:23] <mbiebl> Yeah
[11:23] <concept10> next problem: installing upstart got rid of sysvinit
[11:24] <concept10> (removed)
[11:24] <mbiebl> thats intentional ;-)
[11:24] <concept10> I understand that
[11:24] <concept10> so /etc/init/rcS should be still there?
[11:24] <_ion> Yes.
[11:25] <rgl_> hi
[11:25] <mbiebl> dpkg -S /etc/init.d/rcS tells you that it is part of the sysv-rc package
[11:25] <concept10> so right now there are only two upstart jobs, which are ctrl-alt-delete and sulogin.  from there I should be able to run /etc/init.d/ scripts I assume
[11:26] <concept10> and then I need to get the upstart-compat-sysv package
[11:26] <_ion> Really, install ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard, or your system breaks the next time something big changes. :-)
[11:27] <mbiebl> Do, as I told you, boot your ubuntu box, login, run /etc/init.d/rcS, /etc/init.d/rc 2 and then install upstart-compat-sysv
[11:27] <concept10> alright, i will make sure to install those als
[11:27] <concept10> alright, thanks guys
[11:27] <concept10> I dont know why those meta-packages get removed
[11:28] <concept10> thanks for the help, hopefully I get back into the system and i will come back with the beer
[11:34] <rgl_> how do I disable a service like tty2?
[11:35] <rgl_> the only way is to manually edit the event.d/tty2 file and comment all "start on" lines?
[11:53] <rgl_> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/download/example-jobs.tar.gz is 404 :|
[11:56] <concept10> thanks guys, running those scripts got me back into the system
[12:05] <debugger> what should I do to known what is causing "status: Error receiving message: Invalid message received" when I run "status logd"?
[12:06] <mbiebl> rgl, http://upstart.ubuntu.com/download/example-jobs-2.tar.gz
[12:14] <rgl> mbiebl, ah thx!  thou, those sripts seem to be the same that are included with edgy hehe