| yacoob | well, SOME wmvs don't render up... I guess I'd better look for the pack :> | 12:10 |
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| sivang | hmm, jono is not here | 12:11 |
| pygi | sivang: nop ^_^ | 12:11 |
| sivang | pygi: hey dude | 12:13 |
| pygi | sivang: hey ^_^ | 12:13 |
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| cjwatson | BHSPitLappy: what's wrong with them? (I can change that page) | 12:18 |
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| ajmitch | hi mdz | 12:27 |
| Burgwork | ajmitch: or not | 12:28 |
| ajmitch | oh well :) | 12:28 |
| LaserJock | where does mdz work from? | 12:30 |
| ajmitch | depends | 12:30 |
| ajmitch | around release times, I think he heads to the office in london | 12:30 |
| LaserJock | ah | 12:31 |
| Burgwork | he is the UK right now | 12:31 |
| LaserJock | where is he normally? | 12:31 |
| Burgwork | cali | 12:32 |
| pitti | good night | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | night pitti | 12:33 |
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| Riddell | pitti: you pinged? | 12:33 |
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| FireRabbit | is the webmaster here? | 12:37 |
| Burgwork | FireRabbit: file a bug against the product ubuntu-website | 12:38 |
| cjwatson | I've added an ubuntu-7.04 milestone; dated 2007-04-01 for now because I don't know the exact dat | 12:38 |
| FireRabbit | ok | 12:38 |
| LaserJock | cjwatson: sounds optimistic :-) | 12:40 |
| ajmitch | I think the suggested date by sabdfl was the 19th | 12:41 |
| FireRabbit | https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-website/+bug/68492 | 12:43 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 68492 in ubuntu-website "Incorrect description of how to obtain torrents" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 12:43 |
| Burgwork | FireRabbit: thanks | 12:46 |
| FireRabbit | with the mirrors overloaded, this is not a good thing | 12:46 |
| sivang | sladen: were you close to Jono in LinuxWorld london, I spotted you in some of the photos. | 12:49 |
| jono | sivang, which photos? | 12:49 |
| sivang | ah! you're here :) | 12:50 |
| sivang | jono: http://nikbutler.wordpress.com/files/2006/10/jonoinflow.JPG | 12:51 |
| ajmitch | jono! | 12:51 |
| G0SUB | jono: I have sent you a mail wrt edgy cds and ubuntu-in | 12:51 |
| jono | hey ajmitch :) | 12:51 |
| jono | G0SUB, cool, will check mail tomorrow | 12:52 |
| G0SUB | jono: that's fine :) it's actually about changing the shipping address from the one I provided earlier (if possible) | 12:52 |
| sivang | jono: do you know who was the Zend guy David Morely tried to explain, and I quote "yes, we give it away rather than sell it. Amazing." ? ;-) | 12:53 |
| sivang | jono: (this was about jokosher) | 12:53 |
| psusi | fabbione: ping | 12:53 |
| jono | G0SUB, cool | 12:53 |
| jono | sivang, hehe | 12:54 |
| jono | :P | 12:54 |
| G0SUB | jono: fine, thanks :) | 12:54 |
| jono | dave morley apparently got quite pissed off at people thinking Jokosher was a money making scheme | 12:54 |
| ajmitch | jono: so it's not your secret plan to extort millions? | 12:55 |
| jono | ajmitch, no, I plan to make money from selling guns to frustrated gentoo users :P | 12:56 |
| sivang | ajmitch: HEHE | 12:56 |
| ajmitch | jono: well our original loco contact (pre-plug) has gone back to gentoo now :) | 12:56 |
| sivang | jono: my last job was Zend, I was curious if I knew the guy :) | 12:56 |
| jono | ajmitch, hah! | 12:56 |
| jono | sivang, oh cool | 12:56 |
| G0SUB | it's aweful to see how Oracle ripped off RHEL to create their own distro | 12:57 |
| G0SUB | and the name, my god. it's super-aweful | 12:57 |
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| sid | Can someone confirm a bug for me with gnome-panel? | 12:58 |
| sid | if you left click and drag an icon in the gnome-panel to the right, and back to the left, does the icon lose all it's information? ie name/icon etc | 12:58 |
| G0SUB | sid: on which release? edgy or dapper? | 12:59 |
| sid | edgy | 12:59 |
| LaserJock | not here I don't think | 12:59 |
| G0SUB | sid: couldn't reproduce it here ... | 01:00 |
| sid | LaserJock: You left clicked and draged an icon to the right in the panel, then back? | 01:00 |
| sid | I got 2 people in #ubuntu to reproduce it | 01:00 |
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| LaserJock | sid: oh, now I got it | 01:01 |
| sid | I didn't see anything on launchpad, but I'm not sure if I'm looking good enough | 01:02 |
| LaserJock | it doesn't matter where you drag it or how far | 01:02 |
| LaserJock | if you do a left click and drag it somewhere | 01:02 |
| LaserJock | and then left click and drag it somewhere else it loses everything | 01:03 |
| LaserJock | if I move it properly via middle click it's fine | 01:03 |
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| psusi | fabbione: ping | 02:02 |
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| glick | howdy | 03:56 |
| glick | hey are there any kernel hackers in here? | 03:56 |
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| Hobbsee | glick: i suspect they're all out celebrating | 04:22 |
| glick | heh yeah i spose so | 04:22 |
| glick | i got my question answered in kernelnewbies on OFTC | 04:22 |
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| melvin | hello | 05:30 |
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| glick | hello? | 06:51 |
| glick | hey what files do i need to install to compile kernel modules? | 06:52 |
| glick | i mean packages? | 06:52 |
| nixternal | build-essential, bin86, kernel-package, libqt3-headers, libqt3-mt-dev | 06:54 |
| nixternal | there are some decent howto's int he forums i believe as well that will tell you everything you need | 06:54 |
| glick | nixternal, is there a howto on how to build a kernel the ubuntu way? | 06:54 |
| glick | heh | 06:54 |
| glick | read my mind | 06:55 |
| nixternal | well, that i don't know about | 06:55 |
| nixternal | the "ubuntu way" is just to "apt-get upgrade" | 06:55 |
| fabbione | apt-get build-dep linux-source-2.6.17 if you are in edgy | 06:55 |
| fabbione | but please ask these questions in #ubuntu | 06:55 |
| nixternal | we let the kernel devs build them for us | 06:55 |
| fabbione | this is not a support channel | 06:55 |
| glick | is there a kernel dev channel for just the ubuntu kernel? | 06:56 |
| glick | cause i know ubuntu kernel isnt vanilla | 06:57 |
| fabbione | glick: a development channel is not where you ask how to build a kernel | 06:57 |
| fabbione | it's where you submit patches to improve or fix bugs | 06:57 |
| glick | fabbione, where would you ask then? | 06:57 |
| fabbione | #ubuntu | 06:57 |
| glick | ubuntu channel is for beginners and general help, most people arnt building kernels | 06:58 |
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| highvoltage | #ubuntu is for all support | 06:59 |
| fabbione | IIRC there is an #ubuntu+1 for slightly more experienced users | 07:00 |
| Seveas | #ubuntu+1 is for development releases | 07:01 |
| Seveas | but since there is no such thing right now, #ubuntu+1 is closed | 07:01 |
| fabbione | Seveas: dude you are spoiling the fun :) | 07:01 |
| fabbione | and feisty is open in LP btw.. | 07:01 |
| Seveas | That's my job ;) | 07:02 |
| Seveas | hmm, I should make a feisty-changes rss feed | 07:02 |
| fabbione | the list is open | 07:02 |
| Seveas | have there already been uploads? | 07:02 |
| fabbione | one, sitting in NEW | 07:02 |
| fabbione | but i strongly suggest not to use it | 07:02 |
| Seveas | heh | 07:02 |
| fabbione | it's there only for bootstrapping feisty toolchain | 07:02 |
| Seveas | I won't switch to feisty until december or so | 07:03 |
| === fabbione is running feisty already on 3 arches | ||
| fabbione | well but i cheat | 07:03 |
| fabbione | i have all the toolchain here :) | 07:03 |
| ajmitch | glibc 2.5? | 07:03 |
| fabbione | yes | 07:03 |
| ajmitch | excellent :) | 07:03 |
| fabbione | and .19-rc3 | 07:03 |
| highvoltage | wow :) | 07:03 |
| ajmitch | yeah I saw benc's topic change in -kernel | 07:04 |
| === Hobbsee idly wonders what would happen if you tried to boot from that | ||
| fabbione | Hobbsee: it works here on ppc/sparc/i386.. but it's still missing a bunch of specific ubuntu drivers | 07:04 |
| Hobbsee | i expect it would cause large amounts of doom, but i wonder what exactly whould happen | 07:04 |
| glick | can we stick to non homo-erotic names for ubuntu releases? | 07:04 |
| glick | just a thought | 07:04 |
| Hobbsee | fabbione: that in a chroot, or on a partition? | 07:04 |
| glick | my opinion | 07:04 |
| fabbione | Hobbsee: live | 07:04 |
| Hobbsee | fabbione: wow, cool | 07:05 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: it's not too different from upstream 2.6.19-rc3, afaik | 07:05 |
| Hobbsee | ahh okay | 07:06 |
| fabbione | not at the moment it is not | 07:06 |
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| fabbione | Hobbsee: oh add ia64 to that list | 07:15 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 07:15 |
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| infinity | Seveas: Do we have an RSS feed for feisty yet? | 07:25 |
| Seveas | infinity, I'm having trouble creating one | 07:25 |
| Seveas | my mailserver is borking | 07:25 |
| infinity | Seveas: (If you need a message to the list first, I can pop the first source package through) | 07:25 |
| Seveas | no need to | 07:25 |
| Seveas | courier rejects the subscription mail without any indication why | 07:26 |
| infinity | Special. | 07:26 |
| Seveas | ys | 07:26 |
| Seveas | and I have to go to work now, soit will have to wait until this evening | 07:26 |
| infinity | Well, that just unacceptable for a volunteer effort. :P | 07:27 |
| Seveas | sue me ;) | 07:27 |
| Seveas | anyway, bbl | 07:27 |
| infinity | Seveas: If I statr passing stuff through now, can you pick up old messages an inject them in the feed, or will they just get lost? | 07:27 |
| Seveas | I'll inject them | 07:27 |
| infinity | Okay, cool. | 07:28 |
| infinity | Later, then. | 07:28 |
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| jdub | 15:08:46 (1.34 MB/s) - `ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso' saved | 07:30 |
| jdub | yay ;-) | 07:30 |
| ajforgue | that's slow | 07:33 |
| jdub | yeah, that's a dumb way of reporting | 07:37 |
| jdub | it was | 07:37 |
| jdub | 15:00:04 -> 15:08:46 | 07:37 |
| jdub | stupid wget | 07:37 |
| Fujitsu | jdub: Which mirror? | 07:39 |
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| sladen | jdub: I didn't know you had wet-string that fast in Oz! | 07:56 |
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| fabbione | jdub: you are still slow :) | 08:01 |
| Fujitsu | fabbione: But you seem to have the most ultimate hardware on the planet, so probably the ultimate connection as well :P | 08:02 |
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| fabbione | Fujitsu: i don't have ultimate hw.. no | 08:04 |
| fabbione | (6.53 MB/s) - `edgy-desktop-i386.iso' | 08:04 |
| fabbione | this switch sucks | 08:04 |
| Fujitsu | OK then, have ACCESS to :P | 08:04 |
| fabbione | not even on my internal lan at 100Mb i can cheat | 08:04 |
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| _ion | (259.31 MB/s) - `ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso' | 08:08 |
| Burgundavia | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hansreiser <-- thoughts? | 08:09 |
| Fujitsu | O_o | 08:10 |
| fabbione | Burgundavia: offtopic.. please remove and let's lock that account | 08:10 |
| Burgundavia | fabbione: can't lock, but I can ask | 08:10 |
| Fujitsu | fabbione: Sounds good, if we can get it locked... | 08:10 |
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| G0SUB | any idea where I can file a bug report on usplash? launchpad says it doesn't use malone for bug tracking | 08:23 |
| Fujitsu | G0SUB: launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+filebug should do it. | 08:25 |
| G0SUB | Fujitsu: ah, thanks | 08:26 |
| G0SUB | the problem that I have with usplash is if I add vga=791 as a kernel parameter the spalsh screen becomes off-center and vga=789 simply borks the splash by making it way too large and the text wraps around | 08:29 |
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| sladen | yup, stick those in the bug report aswell | 08:29 |
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| Kagou | good morning | 08:32 |
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| jdub | fabbione: ha ha :-) | 08:56 |
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| jdub | fabbione: i just upgraded my modem so i get adsl2+ speeds. woo. | 08:57 |
| pitti | hey jdub! | 08:57 |
| fabbione | jdub: my ISP started offering adsl2+ yesterday | 08:58 |
| fabbione | i need to check it | 08:58 |
| jdub | yo pitti | 08:58 |
| jdub | congrats to everyone on the release :-) | 08:58 |
| Hobbsee | hey jdub | 08:59 |
| jdub | morning Hobbsee | 08:59 |
| Hobbsee | jdub: IT'S NOT MORNING! | 09:00 |
| Hobbsee | jdub: arent you in my timezone? :P | 09:00 |
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| jdub | i always say good morning | 09:00 |
| Hobbsee | true, but still | 09:01 |
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| tfheen | good morning, Sarah | 09:13 |
| Hobbsee | hey tfheen :) | 09:13 |
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| Hobbsee | tfheen: glad release is over? :) | 09:16 |
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| tfheen | Hobbsee: yeah. It's great fun, but really exhausting too. | 09:16 |
| Hobbsee | i'll bet | 09:16 |
| ajmitch | hi tfheen | 09:17 |
| tfheen | it'll be nice to have a couple of somewhat quiet days before leaving for the conference. | 09:17 |
| tfheen | hiya Andrew | 09:17 |
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| mdke | morning all. Good job | 09:23 |
| SimSie | morning | 09:23 |
| SimSie | hows the new release going? | 09:23 |
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| infinity | tfheen: "quiet" days of bootstrapping a new release, you mean? :P | 09:25 |
| === infinity is hoping for some "quiet" in the week after the conferences. | ||
| fabbione | infinity: quiet after MV is utopia.. we need to open the gates and start merging.. we better enjoy the quietness in writing specs :) | 09:27 |
| tfheen | infinity: I didn't say all of the company had a couple of quiet days.. | 09:31 |
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| mantiena-baltix | Hi all | 09:46 |
| mantiena-baltix | pitti: are you alive ? | 09:48 |
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| janimo | mvo: morning, any news on the upgrade bug? | 09:53 |
| janimo | mvo: should I recommend dist-upgrade in the release ann? | 09:54 |
| mvo | janimo: no, sorry. nothing new. | 09:54 |
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| janimo | mvo, so I'll say clean reinstall is recommended, or be prepared to unbreak te system? | 09:55 |
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| lifeless | bug ? | 09:56 |
| mvo | janimo: a apt-get dist-upgrade should work as well, I have a theory now what triggers the crash | 09:58 |
| mvo | janimo: update-manager rereads/validates the icon-theme after the install so this may trigger the problem. I'm still in the dark *why* the problem exists | 09:59 |
| janimo | mvo: thanks, I'll recommend dist-upgrade then | 10:00 |
| lifeless | what is the poblem ? | 10:00 |
| janimo | mvo: it may be a different set of icon themes being installed in xubuntu/ubuntu cause some corner case bug | 10:01 |
| janimo | lifeless: update-manager crashes while upgarding xubuntu dapper to edgy | 10:01 |
| janimo | lifeless: does not affect ubuntu | 10:01 |
| mvo | lifeless: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/68027 <- pretty spectecular, the crash takes the whole desktop with it | 10:03 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 68027 in update-manager "sudo update-manager -c -d crashes during xubuntu upgrade" [High,Confirmed] | 10:03 |
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| lifeless | mvo: wow, nice fuckage | 10:04 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 10:06 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 10:06 |
| dholbach | hiya Jerome | 10:07 |
| ajmitch | hey dholbach | 10:07 |
| dholbach | hey Andrew | 10:07 |
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| pitti | mantiena-baltix: hi | 10:24 |
| BHSPitLappy | Keybuk, ! | 10:24 |
| Keybuk | BHSPitLappy: ? | 10:25 |
| BHSPitLappy | I've been idling in here for a couple of weeks, just in hopes of catching you in here. | 10:25 |
| Keybuk | oh? | 10:26 |
| BHSPitLappy | yep. | 10:26 |
| BHSPitLappy | pm? | 10:27 |
| Hobbsee | Keybuk: sounds like you're famous :P | 10:27 |
| BHSPitLappy | celebrity status achieved! | 10:27 |
| === BHSPitLappy is with a local tabloid | ||
| fabbione | Keybuk: that's the moment in which you need to change your status from blogger to submarine and start to hide... | 10:28 |
| janimo | any ubuntu-announce moderator in here? | 10:29 |
| janimo | got rejected for the announcement mails, whereas they got queued for approval last week | 10:29 |
| janimo | elmo: ^^ | 10:29 |
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| infinity | janimo: Did you rememebr to add an "X-Ubuntu" header? | 10:42 |
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| janimo | infinity: I have no idea what that is, have not used it so far | 10:42 |
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| infinity | I'll take that as a "no", then. :) | 10:43 |
| janimo | infinity: :) | 10:43 |
| janimo | I am also not user if I could do that from gmail | 10:43 |
| janimo | s/user/sure/ | 10:43 |
| infinity | janimo: -announce will drop anything on the floor that's lacking such a header. | 10:43 |
| janimo | infinity: ok, I'll remember for future mails | 10:43 |
| infinity | janimo: I can resend it for you, if you mail it to me, and tell me who it should be From. | 10:44 |
| janimo | infinity: ok, a moment | 10:44 |
| janimo | infinity: sent it to you 0x3 address, From field the one you receive it from | 10:46 |
| janimo | 0c3 | 10:46 |
| infinity | Alright. | 10:46 |
| infinity | I should start charging for this service.. (had to do it for RichEd for edubuntu too) | 10:46 |
| infinity | janimo: Don't you have an ubuntu.com address? | 10:47 |
| infinity | janimo: Might look a bit better to send it from there. | 10:47 |
| janimo | infinity: I do, you can use jani@ubuntu.com then | 10:47 |
| infinity | Will do. | 10:47 |
| janimo | thanks | 10:47 |
| === infinity fixes your word-wrapping a bit... | ||
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| infinity | janimo: Sent. | 10:53 |
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| janimo | infinity: thanks for the word-wrapping as well | 10:53 |
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| cjwatson | BHSPitLappy: so, what was the releases.ubuntu.com mistake you were asking about? | 11:06 |
| BHSPitLappy | cjwatson, descriptions were off. | 11:06 |
| BHSPitLappy | for example, the bittorrent I downloaded said traditional download or something | 11:07 |
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| cjwatson | yes, some of them do seem to be incorrect | 11:10 |
| cjwatson | BHSPitLappy: thanks, I'll look into that | 11:11 |
| cjwatson | BHSPitLappy: for future reference, https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-cdimage/+filebug is the best place to report problems with cdimage.ubuntu.com or releases.ubuntu.com | 11:11 |
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| BHSPitLappy | mmk | 11:12 |
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| BHSPitLappy | the installer on the official cd doesn't work, somebody should look into that too. | 11:13 |
| BHSPitLappy | "Prepare mount points" | 11:13 |
| BHSPitLappy | "! No root file system." | 11:13 |
| ogra | imbrandon, ping | 11:13 |
| BHSPitLappy | I beg to differ, ubuntu. | 11:14 |
| imbrandon | ogra, pong | 11:14 |
| ogra | imbrandon, would it be possible to have the old categorization for the imported artwork in a.u.c ? | 11:14 |
| BHSPitLappy | but eh, I guess I'm not allowed to install ubuntu in a reasonable, acceptable configuration | 11:15 |
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| infinity | BHSPitLappy: Sarcasm is less effective than well-formed bug reports. | 11:15 |
| imbrandon | ogra, yea actualy i was working on that, its on my hdd but not quite ready to upload yet | 11:15 |
| ogra | the edubuntu category had a ton of pics, now i have to got through a quite complicated navigation to get to them | 11:15 |
| ogra | ok | 11:15 |
| ogra | thanks :) | 11:15 |
| imbrandon | np :) | 11:15 |
| BHSPitLappy | infinity, I don't know... directed in the right places, ... | 11:16 |
| BHSPitLappy | anybody know shuttleworth's cell number? | 11:16 |
| dholbach | BHSPitLappy: Please cut it... you can't expect anybody to be motivated after your little taunts. | 11:17 |
| Hobbsee | especially just after a release, too | 11:17 |
| BHSPitLappy | come now, lighten up a little. | 11:18 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: do you want help with your merges for feisty too? | 11:19 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: (not that we have to deal with them yet) | 11:19 |
| === dholbach hugs Hobbsee :-) | ||
| cjwatson | BHSPitLappy: thanks for your releases.u.c report; fixed, as well as fixing the root cause of the problem | 11:19 |
| === Hobbsee hugs dholbach. i thought you might like that. | ||
| dholbach | hehe :-) | 11:19 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: of course, i'd be a lot happier to deal with them if it wasnt icky gnome :P | 11:19 |
| BHSPitLappy | cool | 11:19 |
| cjwatson | BHSPitLappy: on the other hand you've now convinced me not to look at your installer report, and I'm the person you need to look at it | 11:20 |
| dholbach | Hobbsee: hahahaha - wait until seb128 sees that | 11:20 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: :D | 11:20 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: glutton for punishment? | 11:20 |
| === mnepton glares | ||
| === seb128 hugs dholbach | ||
| cjwatson | funnily enough we did test the installer before releasing it, so it's obviously not "doesn't work" | 11:20 |
| mnepton | KDE is used by the same people that bolt US$10K of crap to a US$3K car. GNOME is used by people with a bit more taste. :P | 11:21 |
| Hobbsee | cjwatson: do you want to deal with https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/68559 ? | 11:21 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 68559 in Ubuntu "I can't install ubuntu into existing root partition. (I need to delete and re-create it)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 11:21 |
| Hobbsee | cjwatson: i cant think of a way to do it diplomatically | 11:22 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: seems so | 11:22 |
| tfheen | mnepton: "taste" and "USD" in the same sentence? :-) | 11:22 |
| Keybuk | mnepton: oddly enough, it used to be the other way around | 11:22 |
| mnepton | tfheen: the american dollar, great on a cracker! | 11:22 |
| cjwatson | Hobbsee: diplomatically? | 11:22 |
| Chipzz | Hobbsee: save the fangirlism for somewhere else please | 11:22 |
| mnepton | Keybuk: yeah, i remmeber 2001. :) | 11:23 |
| Hobbsee | Chipzz: huh? want to explain that? | 11:23 |
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| Hobbsee | cjwatson: something other than "we've decided not to do things this way, be quiet" | 11:23 |
| Chipzz | 11:19 < Hobbsee> dholbach: of course, i'd be a lot happier to deal with them if it wasnt icky gnome :P | 11:23 |
| cjwatson | Hobbsee: that would be incorrect | 11:23 |
| cjwatson | Hobbsee: it's a bug, not an intentional decision | 11:24 |
| Hobbsee | cjwatson: oh, okay then. i thought that you had decided not to let them install with an unclean / | 11:24 |
| cjwatson | Hobbsee: I have, but that's a different error. Note how in screenshot number 4 he's opted to format / | 11:24 |
| Hobbsee | oh, oops | 11:24 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 11:24 |
| Keybuk | DEBUG:root:debian: kde-style-serenity 1.4-1 | 11:24 |
| Keybuk | ... is that the "You can't take my CRACK! from me!" style? :p | 11:25 |
| === mnepton wonders if EtienneG filed the megaraid-sas/initramfs bug | ||
| cjwatson | OH | 11:25 |
| === cjwatson sees the bug, argh | ||
| Keybuk | cjwatson: thank god we tested the installer, eh? :) | 11:25 |
| dholbach | Chipzz: !??! | 11:25 |
| cjwatson | Keybuk: won't show up in all configurations, but ... | 11:25 |
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| Chipzz | why refer to it is "icky gnome"? is that really necessary? | 11:26 |
| ajmitch | Chipzz: we understood that she's joking | 11:26 |
| dholbach | Chipzz: it's a long-standing joke | 11:26 |
| Fujitsu | Chipzz: Yes, it's Hobbsee :P | 11:26 |
| === mnepton hands Hobbsee a </sarcasm> for future use | ||
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| Hobbsee | Chipzz: please meet the :P. | 11:27 |
| mnepton | Hobbsee: try that with me! i taste like chicken! oh, and sulfur. | 11:27 |
| Chipzz | well, I don't like kde at all either, but I try to keep my opinion for myself ;P | 11:27 |
| dholbach | Chipzz: and Hobbsee merged and worked on a bunch of GNOME packages, so I don't see why you should critize her in that way when it was obviously a joke... | 11:29 |
| === mnepton tastes like chicken! | ||
| mnepton | BAWK BAWK BAWK! | 11:30 |
| === Fujitsu takes a bite from mnepton. | ||
| infinity | mnepton: megaraid_sas got in at the zero hour. | 11:30 |
| mnepton | (everybody point and laugh at the monkey and stop the arguing, please) :) | 11:30 |
| infinity | mnepton: And no, the bug was never filed, I don't think, just communicated by a few over IRC. | 11:30 |
| mnepton | infinity: want a doctrail for it? | 11:30 |
| infinity | mnepton: Couldn't care less; it's fixed now. | 11:31 |
| mnepton | oOoOoOoOo! | 11:31 |
| mnepton | niftay. | 11:31 |
| infinity | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edgy-changes/2006-October/008054.html | 11:32 |
| infinity | The 5th last upload that got in. :) | 11:32 |
| Chipzz | dholbach: maybe I'm just not getting the joke... :P | 11:32 |
| mnepton | infinity: spnedid | 11:33 |
| mnepton | "splendid," too. | 11:33 |
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| Chipzz | dholbach: but I think that if I were to refer to kde as "a piece of crap" the whole time I would politely be asked to sod off ;P | 11:35 |
| cjwatson | BHSPitLappy: looks like I should be able to fix that installer bug, anyway | 11:35 |
| ajmitch | Chipzz: just drop it | 11:35 |
| Chipzz | yea I will | 11:35 |
| Hobbsee | good. | 11:35 |
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| Hobbsee | Keybuk: when will MOM start running again, for reference? | 11:36 |
| BHSPitLappy | cjwatson, nice to hear. the circumstances in that bug report are a spot-on match to mine, incidentally. | 11:36 |
| Keybuk | Hobbsee: running currently | 11:36 |
| Keybuk | usually takes 6-9 hours for the first one | 11:36 |
| Keybuk | though you can't upload yet, so it's moot ;) | 11:36 |
| cjwatson | BHSPitLappy: workaround is to delete and recreate the partition | 11:36 |
| Hobbsee | Keybuk: oh nice. so feasible time to start merging is...? | 11:36 |
| BHSPitLappy | too bad the bug made it into the official ISO, though. maybe an early 6.10.1 ? | 11:36 |
| cjwatson | (since you have to reformat it anyway, that's not a big deal) | 11:36 |
| BHSPitLappy | cjwatson, understood | 11:36 |
| Keybuk | Hobbsee: when you can upload | 11:36 |
| infinity | Keybuk: Sure she can, we just won't approve the uploads. :) | 11:36 |
| === Hobbsee wants to do something apart from studying. or not studying | ||
| Hobbsee | infinity: what, even if they dont contain crack? :P | 11:37 |
| cjwatson | BHSPitLappy: yeah, not sure. point releases are a big chunk of work for the whole team so we'll have to discuss it | 11:37 |
| dholbach_ | Chipzz: Hobbsee does real work in here, maybe that's a difference :-) | 11:37 |
| Hobbsee | Keybuk: the next question is "when can i upload again?" if i havent done tried your patience too much :P | 11:38 |
| Keybuk | Hobbsee: when the toolchain and buildd chroots are ready | 11:38 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: "soon" | 11:38 |
| cjwatson | Hobbsee: you can upload, it just won't go anywhere for a bit. :) | 11:38 |
| Hobbsee | gah. i think i'm pulling teeth. | 11:38 |
| cjwatson | (feisty exists, but is frozen) | 11:38 |
| Hobbsee | cjwatson: yeah, well. that's not helpful | 11:38 |
| infinity | Hobbsee: Seriously, you could upload now if you wanted to, it'll land in the unapproved queue. But for the sake of being able to test-build your uploads with the new toolchain, you might want to wait until we have glibc/gcc/etc in. | 11:38 |
| Hobbsee | so i'd heard | 11:38 |
| cjwatson | Hobbsee: it's true, though ... | 11:38 |
| === Fujitsu likes the `EXPERIMENTAL' title that feisty has on LP. | ||
| infinity | Fujitsu: Not anymore. | 11:38 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: besides, you need to leave some packages for everyone else | 11:38 |
| cjwatson | Fujitsu: that's already been changed to FROZEN | 11:39 |
| Hobbsee | infinity: yeah, i understand that. and then i'm wondering on how long that will be, which was more my original question :P iirc, edgy's toolchain didnt start on the day after dapper's release? | 11:39 |
| Fujitsu | cjwatson: Is there a functional difference? | 11:39 |
| Keybuk | Hobbsee: next week sometime, if you want a thumb-in-the-arse estimate | 11:39 |
| cjwatson | Fujitsu: yes - FROZEN means (a) uploads are queued for manual approval, (b) LP actually considers feisty as the "current release" | 11:40 |
| infinity | Hobbsee: It's being worked on right now, whilst also working really hard on watching Black Books DVDs. | 11:40 |
| Hobbsee | Keybuk: okay, that's what i wanted to know :) | 11:40 |
| BHSPitLappy | cjwatson, well, the workaround should probably be published readily for others' sake, somehow. | 11:40 |
| Hobbsee | infinity: sounds good to me. and DVD watching is very cruical for such things :) | 11:40 |
| infinity | Hobbsee: It's a good way to stomach working out of hours, yes. :) | 11:40 |
| mnepton | oh man, i can see the tin-foil hat crowd in #ubuntu having a f-ing *field day* with Feisty being frozen | 11:40 |
| Hobbsee | infinity: indeed. | 11:40 |
| cjwatson | BHSPitLappy: I will do, yes | 11:41 |
| Keybuk | infinity: you have hours? :) | 11:41 |
| Fujitsu | mnepton: Yes, especially as it's labeled `pre-release freeze', or was last time I checked. | 11:41 |
| ajmitch | mnepton: want to go & stir up some trouble? | 11:41 |
| mnepton | here we go .... | 11:41 |
| infinity | Keybuk: Not so much a set time when I do and don't work, but I theoretically have a contracted number per work that I'm meant to put in. That number has never matched reality, but a man can dream. :) | 11:41 |
| mnepton | ajmitch: i'd rather insert scorpions into my urethra | 11:41 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: yes! lets stir up some trouble :P | 11:41 |
| BHSPitLappy | mnepton, way to brighten up the conversation as usual | 11:41 |
| ajmitch | mnepton: graphic, but accurate.. | 11:42 |
| mnepton | BHSPitLappy: everyone has to have a super-power ... | 11:42 |
| Hobbsee | infinity: since when does contract hours equal real hours? | 11:42 |
| infinity | Hobbsee: Not once since I graduated high school. :) | 11:42 |
| Hobbsee | infinity: :) even then? | 11:43 |
| mnepton | infinity: you graduated high school? | 11:43 |
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| === Fujitsu notes that nobody in #ubuntu must see /distros/ubuntu/feisty, as it says `Status: Pre-release Freeze'... People were asking yesterday, when it wasn't even listed, if it was released yet :P | ||
| BHSPitLappy | lucky me, I've never graduated high school. | 11:43 |
| cjwatson | BHSPitLappy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes | 11:43 |
| infinity | mnepton: Filthy government lies implied that it would somehow improve my future. | 11:43 |
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| mnepton | infinity: well, i don't make romantic overtures to high school graduates, so i guess that diploma is helping you a *little* | 11:44 |
| infinity | mnepton: I assumed that had more to do with age than educational level. | 11:44 |
| === Keybuk never graduated high school | ||
| === mnepton sidles over | ||
| BHSPitLappy | cjwatson, nice | 11:45 |
| mnepton | hey big boy. you look both hot and like you've never read "The Iliad" | 11:45 |
| BHSPitLappy | should I bother trying to count the levels on which that was disturbing | 11:46 |
| mnepton | BHSPitLappy: well, you never graduated high school. so your count might not take too long nor go too high. ;) | 11:46 |
| BHSPitLappy | oh no, now he's going to retaliate with a crack that I can't even count | 11:47 |
| BHSPitLappy | ahh | 11:47 |
| BHSPitLappy | predict'd! (though not provably, due to my typing sloth) | 11:47 |
| BHSPitLappy | mnepton, I'm due to graduate in about 7 months, so we'll see where that goes. | 11:48 |
| mnepton | ach so | 11:50 |
| mnepton | and now, i officially feel old. | 11:50 |
| === mnepton continues decomposing | ||
| BHSPitLappy | yay, the nitrogen cycle is finally proving useful. | 11:52 |
| mnepton | quiet, necrotroph! | 11:53 |
| BHSPitLappy | bully! | 11:53 |
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| mnepton | that requires rearrangement? | 12:13 |
| mnepton | you're too kind. | 12:13 |
| sjoerd | pitti: thanks for the hal sync mail! | 12:15 |
| pitti | sjoerd: hi! | 12:16 |
| pitti | sjoerd: my pleasure; I'm just playing around with all the new crack :) | 12:16 |
| sjoerd | nice :) | 12:16 |
| Robot101 | ffs | 12:18 |
| Robot101 | beagle takes 550MB on this box | 12:18 |
| Robot101 | is that normal?! | 12:18 |
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| pitti | cjwatson: ' * Recognize feisty as valid Ubuntu release' ? :-) | 12:20 |
| thom | cjwatson: :D | 12:20 |
| cjwatson | pitti: near enough, yes | 12:21 |
| pitti | oh, that reminds me, do we need to manually subscribe feisty-changes? | 12:21 |
| cjwatson | I think so, yes | 12:22 |
| slomo | pitti: yes | 12:24 |
| pitti | slomo: yes what? | 12:25 |
| pitti | slomo: oh, subscribe | 12:25 |
| slomo | pitti: yes ;) | 12:28 |
| slomo | btw, when will feisty be open for general uploads? | 12:28 |
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| pitti | mark: 'ubuntu'? he? | 12:31 |
| mark | edgy and me :) | 12:31 |
| mark | it did that in dapper, it still does in edgy... it's never asked me anything | 12:31 |
| Fujitsu | mark, meaning it uses the Australian mirror? | 12:33 |
| mark | yes, and has locale en_AU.UTF-8 | 12:33 |
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| fabbione | mark: i think there is a bug opened for that already | 12:33 |
| mark | okay | 12:33 |
| Fujitsu | mark: Did you install using the Live CD, and selected a language that is strange for the country you selected? | 12:34 |
| mark | no, I'm just upgrading now... but I'll try a fresh install later | 12:37 |
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| mark | it's just a bit annoying, .au mirrors are *very* slow from here ;) | 12:38 |
| cjwatson | mark: was this a dapper install from the desktop CD? | 12:40 |
| cjwatson | mark: if so, it's a known problem fixed in the edgy desktop CD installer | 12:40 |
| mark | yes it was | 12:40 |
| mark | okay | 12:41 |
| cjwatson | just munge /etc/apt/sources.list to taste | 12:41 |
| cjwatson | and /etc/environment, for the locale | 12:41 |
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| mark | sure, I did | 12:41 |
| mark | after killing the upgrade process ;-) | 12:41 |
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| StevenK | mark: The .au mirrors are slow from here, too. :-P | 12:51 |
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| surak | Wow! This is amazing: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+bugs | 01:07 |
| seb128 | we almost fixed them all ;) | 01:08 |
| surak | Well, if this is not the way to look for edgy bugs, then I must be really dumb (or there's something weird with LP) | 01:09 |
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| Fujitsu | surak: The latter, cut the edgy/. | 01:11 |
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| seb128 | surak: your URL list bugs with an edgy backport task | 01:13 |
| surak | seb128 : What I did what going to launchpad, distributions, ubuntu, 6.10, and then bugs. I think this would be the logical step for looking for bugs specific to edgy. But perhaps this is offtopic, since this is a LP usability issue. | 01:14 |
| surak | (IMHO) | 01:14 |
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| seb128 | surak: you have bugs specific to edgy ;) | 01:15 |
| surak | Actually, I do :-D | 01:15 |
| seb128 | surak: all other bugs apply to feisty too (are not specifc to edgy then) | 01:15 |
| seb128 | right, it's a launchpad UI issue | 01:15 |
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| Keybuk | main | 02:00 |
| Keybuk | Locally Packaged 1122 | 02:00 |
| Keybuk | Unmodified 399 | 02:00 |
| Keybuk | Needs Sync 306 | 02:00 |
| Keybuk | Needs Merge 518 | 02:00 |
| Keybuk | Locally Repackaged 109 | 02:00 |
| Keybuk | Modified 210 | 02:01 |
| Keybuk | ------------------ -- | 02:01 |
| Keybuk | TOTAL 2664 | 02:01 |
| StevenK | Keybuk: Do those number overlap? | 02:03 |
| Keybuk | no | 02:03 |
| StevenK | numbers, even | 02:03 |
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| Keybuk | universe | 02:22 |
| Keybuk | Locally Packaged 700 | 02:22 |
| Keybuk | Unmodified 4989 | 02:22 |
| Keybuk | Needs Sync 2370 | 02:22 |
| Keybuk | Needs Merge 433 | 02:22 |
| Keybuk | Locally Repackaged 65 | 02:22 |
| Keybuk | Modified 667 | 02:22 |
| Keybuk | ------------------ -- | 02:22 |
| Keybuk | TOTAL 9224 | 02:22 |
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| sivang | Keybuk: merge preperations ? ;) | 02:26 |
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| Keybuk | sivang: aye | 02:29 |
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| sivang | Keybuk: cool | 02:41 |
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| Fujitsu | Keybuk: What are the first and last two categories in those lists? | 02:46 |
| Keybuk | Fujitsu: locally packaged means the source doesn't exist in Debian | 02:47 |
| Keybuk | Modified means that the version in Ubuntu is greater than that in Debian, but not 0ubuntu (ie. modified, with nothing to merge) | 02:48 |
| Fujitsu | Keybuk: That's what I guessed, but there surely can't be, THAT many new ones!? | 02:48 |
| Fujitsu | OK. | 02:48 |
| Keybuk | language packs | 02:49 |
| Fujitsu | Of course! I thought the numbers in main were rather large. | 02:50 |
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| sivang | can anybody tell me if completing apprenticeship implies reciving a diploma for it or is it just experience ? | 02:51 |
| zul | probably depends on the location | 02:52 |
| sivang | zul: okay, thank | 02:53 |
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| gnomefreak | why doesnt dbg work? | 03:17 |
| gnomefreak | gnomefreak@EdgyEft:~$ dbg firefox | 03:17 |
| gnomefreak | bash: dbg: command not found | 03:17 |
| gnomefreak | am i missing something? | 03:17 |
| gnomefreak | ignore that | 03:18 |
| gnomefreak | need more coffee | 03:18 |
| yacoob | hm. | 03:20 |
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| yacoob | is there a place where one can read up on organisation of Ubuntu, release cycles, and it's interaction with Debian? | 03:21 |
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| dholbach | yacoob: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForDebianDevelopers might help, if you're familiar with how Debian works | 03:22 |
| yacoob | I'm more or less are. Thanks :) | 03:23 |
| yacoob | (started to think to apply for Debian maintainership, but luckily I ran out of free time) | 03:23 |
| StevenK | Hah | 03:24 |
| bddebian | Howdy | 03:24 |
| yacoob | ok, this page solves second part of my question. And the first one? | 03:27 |
| fabbione | yacoob: start from wiki.ubuntu.com.. there are tons of links to the structure | 03:38 |
| fabbione | what you are looking for as equivalent on NM is MOTU | 03:39 |
| yacoob | Righto. | 03:39 |
| yacoob | now, will wiki fit into my palm... :> | 03:39 |
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| yacoob | Hm, does that mean that main is kept in order only by Canonical folks? :> | 03:43 |
| StevenK | Nope. | 03:43 |
| yacoob | Ok, I'll read up, I'll... :> | 03:44 |
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| pitti | mvo_: SRU proposals need to go to mdz, not to security@ | 03:52 |
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| pitti | mvo_: (could also just *look* like you sent it to security@, and I just got the bug echo though) | 03:53 |
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| seb128 | we have planned to a "reduce delta with upstream" week for ubuntu-desktop next week, are other people interested to have that for non-desktop too? What would be the right place, #ubuntu-bugs? | 04:00 |
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| seb128 | I've created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/UpstreamDelta for the desktop packages by example | 04:00 |
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| seb128 | and I know we have a bunch of desktop patches that should go upstream | 04:00 |
| seb128 | not sure if people are interested to hand on #ubuntu-bugs next week and reply to people who want to do the same for non-desktop packages by example? | 04:01 |
| Keybuk | seb128: random bug ... gnome-power-manager always seems to use the scalable icons, not the 24x24 one | 04:01 |
| mvo_ | pitti: I didn't send it to security | 04:01 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: we have patches pending feisty opening for that | 04:02 |
| Keybuk | ok | 04:02 |
| Keybuk | who knows much about x fonts? (of the old fashioned kind) | 04:05 |
| Keybuk | this program wants -times-normal-r-*-*-9-.... | 04:05 |
| Keybuk | where would I get that? | 04:05 |
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| segfault | woo! | 04:12 |
| ogra | Keybuk, xfonts-{75,100}-dpi | 04:15 |
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| Keybuk | ogra: that only has 8px in it | 04:17 |
| Keybuk | not -9- | 04:17 |
| ogra | hmm | 04:17 |
| ogra | probably in one of the -transcoded or -european packages then ... | 04:17 |
| Keybuk | it's as if a scalable font is missing | 04:18 |
| Keybuk | aha! /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc was missing from my font page | 04:19 |
| Keybuk | path | 04:19 |
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| ogra | hmm | 04:20 |
| ogra | intresting xfontsel hasnt it here either | 04:20 |
| Keybuk | xtrkcad is happy now | 04:20 |
| ogra | i hacve 8,10,12 etc ... but no 9 | 04:20 |
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| mrmojo | hello | 04:21 |
| === BenC unleashes temporal doom | ||
| mrmojo | someone needs to change ubuntu webpage | 04:21 |
| mrmojo | "# | 04:22 |
| mrmojo | # CD Image for Apple Macintosh PowerPC based desktop and laptop computers" is very misleading | 04:22 |
| mrmojo | should be CD Image for PPC based Apple Macintosh | 04:22 |
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| Keybuk | err, that's what is says | 04:23 |
| Keybuk | "PowerPC based desktop" | 04:23 |
| cjwatson | he's gone | 04:23 |
| cjwatson | damn drive-byers | 04:23 |
| BenC | not to mention it should add IBM POWER5 | 04:23 |
| BenC | too many places to update that info | 04:24 |
| zul | BenC: doom and gloom? | 04:24 |
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| BenC | zul: "All I wanna do is run my zoom zoom in her boom boom" | 04:25 |
| zul | BenC: heh.. | 04:25 |
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| Mez | is there a wiki link for the -proposed and -updates process? | 04:38 |
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| janimo | mdz: hi, can you let the xubuntu announcement through? | 04:41 |
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| mdz | janimo: done | 04:45 |
| janimo | mdz: thanks | 04:45 |
| Mez | mdz: what is the process for having something added to -updates nowadays ? | 04:46 |
| mdz | Mez: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 04:47 |
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| Mez | mdz: what is meant by "sever regressions | 04:48 |
| mdz | Mez: a regression is when functionality which was previously working stops working | 04:49 |
| mdz | as opposed to something which never worked | 04:49 |
| Mez | mdz: so for example, having katapult not launch on systems not using en-gb and also not interacting with amarok would count? | 04:50 |
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| zyga | hi | 04:51 |
| Keybuk | Mez: has katapult ever launched on those systems? | 04:52 |
| Keybuk | has katapult ever interacted with amarok? | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 04:52 |
| Mez | Keybuk, yes :P | 04:52 |
| Gadi | infinit, Keybuk: I hope you'll excuse this as not being 100% a devel question, but I have an initramfs prob that I have been wrestling with in dapper for 2 days... it has to do with booting by volume label (root=LABEL=) | 04:52 |
| Keybuk | mdz: so in dapper, katapult both launched AND interacted with amarok? | 04:53 |
| Mez | Keybuk, yes it did :P (assuming you're talking to me) | 04:53 |
| yacoob | Hmm. | 04:53 |
| yacoob | I ignited a flame few windows to the left, about how much ubuntu takes from Debian. | 04:54 |
| Keybuk | Mez: is the fix trivial? | 04:54 |
| Gadi | I have one image that boots by label fine, which is a breezy dist-upgrade to dapper. another image that is a straight dapper install fails with: ALERT! /dev/disk/by-label/... does not exist | 04:54 |
| Mez | Keybuk: a couple of patches | 04:54 |
| Hobbsee | Mez: fixed the bookmarks section as well? | 04:55 |
| Keybuk | Gadi: that implies the label is wrong or not available | 04:55 |
| Gadi | does the udev in initramfs need a particular pkg installed in userspace to make this work? | 04:55 |
| Gadi | but vol_id returns the label fine | 04:55 |
| Gadi | and it doesnt croke on LABEL in /etc/fstab | 04:56 |
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| Mez | Hobbsee, what was up with the bookmarks section ? | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | Mez: the ones in firefox - katapult doesnt bring them up anymore | 04:57 |
| Keybuk | Gadi: kooky | 04:57 |
| Gadi | heh | 04:57 |
| Keybuk | does it work in edgy? | 04:57 |
| Gadi | havent tried | 04:57 |
| Gadi | trying to keep my sample space of problems small ;) | 04:57 |
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| Gadi | Keybuk: when it drops me into the initramfs shell, should I be able to see a /dev/disk/by-name....? | 05:02 |
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| Keybuk | Gadi: yes | 05:11 |
| Keybuk | does the directory exist at all? | 05:12 |
| Gadi | no /dev/disk at all | 05:12 |
| Gadi | what needs modprobing to get it? | 05:12 |
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| infinity | Gadi: Your drive controller. | 05:13 |
| infinity | Gadi: What sortof controller is in that machine? | 05:13 |
| Gadi | its on the ide drive | 05:14 |
| Gadi | I modprobed ide-disk | 05:14 |
| Gadi | still no /dev/disk | 05:14 |
| infinity | Gadi: Do you have /dev/sd* or /dev/hd*? | 05:15 |
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| Gadi | yes - /dev/hdc, /dev/hdc1 | 05:16 |
| Gadi | which is correct | 05:16 |
| sbalneav | back | 05:16 |
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| Keybuk | Gadi: does /sbin/udevd exist? | 05:18 |
| Gadi | infinity: also note, that if I change to root=/dev/hdc1 it boots fine | 05:18 |
| Gadi | Keybuk: it exists and is running | 05:18 |
| Keybuk | Gadi: does /lib/udev/vol_id exist? | 05:18 |
| infinity | udev would have to be running, or he'd have a static device tree, not just /dev/hdc{,1} | 05:18 |
| Gadi | Keybuk: yes | 05:18 |
| Keybuk | Gadi: what does "/lib/udev/vol_id /dev/hdc1" say? | 05:19 |
| Gadi | it returns the correct label info | 05:19 |
| Keybuk | you see ID_FS_LABEL_SAFE=... ? | 05:19 |
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| Gadi | yes same value for ID_FS_LABEL_SAFE and ID_FS_LABEL | 05:20 |
| Keybuk | does /sys/block/hdc/removable exist? | 05:20 |
| Keybuk | or /sys/block/hdc/hdc1/removable ? | 05:20 |
| Gadi | yes and its value is 1 | 05:21 |
| Gadi | oh wait | 05:21 |
| Keybuk | ok | 05:21 |
| Keybuk | that's why you don't have any labels ;) | 05:21 |
| Gadi | wait | 05:21 |
| Gadi | /sys/block/hdc/removable is 1 | 05:22 |
| Gadi | but, /sys/block/hdc/hdc1/removable does not exist | 05:22 |
| Keybuk | then the label and uuid for hdc will not be available | 05:22 |
| Gadi | thats ok | 05:22 |
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| Keybuk | removable ide devices are teh suck | 05:22 |
| Gadi | ah | 05:22 |
| Gadi | so, will I not get a label for hdc1 as well? | 05:23 |
| Keybuk | right | 05:23 |
| Gadi | how come it works on the other image, tho, I wonder | 05:23 |
| Keybuk | bet that's not a removable disk | 05:23 |
| Gadi | no, they both are | 05:23 |
| Gadi | they are both CF chips | 05:23 |
| Keybuk | or is exposed through the SCSI layer and is thus /dev/sd* ? | 05:23 |
| Gadi | nope | 05:23 |
| Gadi | I just swap one for the other | 05:23 |
| Gadi | same lot | 05:23 |
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| Gadi | er, slot | 05:24 |
| Keybuk | identical hardware? | 05:24 |
| Gadi | CF slot on ide bus | 05:24 |
| Gadi | yep | 05:24 |
| Keybuk | same chipset and revision? | 05:24 |
| Gadi | 100% | 05:24 |
| Gadi | same board | 05:24 |
| Keybuk | on the other one, reboot with break=mount on the kernel command-line | 05:24 |
| Keybuk | check /sys/block/.../removable on there too | 05:24 |
| Gadi | ok | 05:24 |
| Keybuk | I expect that doesn't have it | 05:24 |
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| pitti | mdz: do we still support X multiseat? | 05:27 |
| Gadi | Keybuk: well, actually, right away I see a few diffs: | 05:28 |
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| Gadi | 1. Doesnt support usb keyboard (had to switch to PS/2) | 05:28 |
| Gadi | 2. no /dev/hdc{,1} | 05:28 |
| Gadi | (even after modprobe ide-disk | 05:29 |
| Gadi | 3. only /sys/block/ram* exist | 05:29 |
| Gadi | is there something else I should modprobe when I break this way? | 05:30 |
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| Keybuk | not especially | 05:31 |
| Keybuk | we don't support CF that well | 05:31 |
| Keybuk | so I'm not that surprised it's broken | 05:31 |
| Keybuk | especially for your root filesystem :p | 05:31 |
| Gadi | but, this is the CF that boots! | 05:31 |
| Gadi | lol | 05:31 |
| Keybuk | you did break=mount ? | 05:32 |
| Gadi | yup | 05:32 |
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| Gadi | btw, it has no /dev/disk either | 05:32 |
| Gadi | yet boots fine | 05:33 |
| Keybuk | nothing other than ram in /sys/block ? | 05:33 |
| Gadi | yup | 05:34 |
| Keybuk | uname -r ? | 05:35 |
| Gadi | 2.6.15-23-386 | 05:35 |
| Gadi | (on both chips) | 05:36 |
| Keybuk | fun | 05:37 |
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| Gadi | only real diff between the 2 is that one is dapper straight and the other is dapper off of dist-upgrade | 05:38 |
| Gadi | and the dist-upgrade is the one that boots | 05:39 |
| Keybuk | oh, wait | 05:39 |
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| Keybuk | sorry | 05:39 |
| Keybuk | . /conf/initramfs.conf | 05:39 |
| Keybuk | . /scripts/functions | 05:39 |
| Keybuk | run_scripts /scripts/local-top | 05:39 |
| Keybuk | that'll make the necessary bits show up | 05:39 |
| Keybuk | (where "." is part of the command) | 05:40 |
| Gadi | right | 05:40 |
| Gadi | running... | 05:41 |
| infinity | Someone should shove "source" in dash, for the sole purpose of disambiguating IRC instructions. | 05:41 |
| Gadi | yes | 05:41 |
| Gadi | now I get /dev/disk | 05:41 |
| Gadi | lemme check /sys/block | 05:41 |
| infinity | I guess I could just "alias source='.'" in initramfs's init, so we have it there for giving instructions. :) | 05:41 |
| Gadi | hey hey | 05:42 |
| Gadi | so, /sys/block/hdc/removable is 0 here | 05:42 |
| Keybuk | right | 05:42 |
| elmo | what's right click on a mac? | 05:42 |
| Keybuk | elmo: F12 | 05:42 |
| Gadi | so, what sets that? | 05:43 |
| Gadi | not the kernel? | 05:43 |
| Keybuk | Gadi: kernel | 05:43 |
| Gadi | but, Im using same kernel | 05:43 |
| Gadi | ? | 05:43 |
| infinity | Gadi: Is this just two different CF cards being swapped out of the same reader? | 05:43 |
| Gadi | yes | 05:43 |
| Gadi | its an CF slot on the ide bus | 05:44 |
| infinity | Curious. | 05:44 |
| Gadi | ah, wait | 05:44 |
| Gadi | there is one diff | 05:44 |
| Gadi | the one that boots has 2 partitions, but the one that doesnt has 1 | 05:44 |
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| Gadi | maybe thats what the kernel uses to determine if its removable? | 05:45 |
| infinity | Shouldn't, but it wouldn't surprise me either. | 05:45 |
| Gadi | strange criteria | 05:45 |
| infinity | Is GRUB installed to the MBR on both, to the first partition, etc? | 05:45 |
| Gadi | first partition on both | 05:46 |
| infinity | If it's installed on the first partition, what's on the MBR? | 05:46 |
| Gadi | good question | 05:46 |
| infinity | One could have a DOS MBR, one could be blank/gibberish. | 05:46 |
| infinity | That could relate. | 05:46 |
| infinity | ANy number of subtle things. | 05:46 |
| Gadi | maybe - thanks guys | 05:46 |
| infinity | If anyone feels like following that codepath instead of guessing, be my guest. :) | 05:46 |
| Gadi | I think you've given me enough to crack it | 05:46 |
| infinity | Also, is the first partition set "bootable" in both cases? | 05:47 |
| infinity | Blah blah blah. | 05:47 |
| Gadi | well that is a yes for sure | 05:47 |
| infinity | (Since I have no idea what criteria may be used to determine one CF card is removable and the other is a static disk..) | 05:47 |
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| Gadi | right | 05:47 |
| Gadi | I think I am going to repartition this bad boy and see if it boots | 05:48 |
| Gadi | and if not, ill investigate the MBR | 05:48 |
| Gadi | thx again | 05:48 |
| infinity | Have fun. :) | 05:48 |
| infinity | If you discover something cool/interesting, do come back and share with the class. | 05:48 |
| infinity | I'm getting curious now, but not curkious enough to dive into the kernel and actually divine the answer from the code. | 05:49 |
| infinity | (Almost, though..) | 05:49 |
| giftnudel | infinity: let's wait 5 minutes and see if you get bored, you might then :) | 05:49 |
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| pingar | HEI! | 05:50 |
| pingar | whoops. wrong window. | 05:50 |
| giftnudel | pingar: hello anyway :) | 05:50 |
| elmo | anyone got a macbook pro? the hotkeys/function keys don't seem to work at all | 05:52 |
| elmo | this is a slightly large flaw when you need f12 to right click | 05:52 |
| mjg59 | elmo: Why did ejb leave Debian? | 05:52 |
| infinity | elmo: We only set up the F12/right-click thing on powerpc machines. | 05:52 |
| elmo | infinity: DOH | 05:53 |
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| infinity | adconrad@royal:~$ tail -n 4 /etc/sysctl.conf | 05:54 |
| infinity | # Emulate the middle mouse button with F11 and the right with F12. | 05:54 |
| infinity | dev/mac_hid/mouse_button_emulation = 1 | 05:54 |
| infinity | dev/mac_hid/mouse_button2_keycode = 87 | 05:54 |
| infinity | dev/mac_hid/mouse_button3_keycode = 88 | 05:54 |
| infinity | No idea if that would even work on an i386 kernel, but you can try. | 05:54 |
| infinity | elmo: ^^^ | 05:54 |
| elmo | mjg59: he was kicked out? | 05:57 |
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| elmo | infinity: no dice | 05:57 |
| infinity | Yeah, didn't figure it would work... | 05:57 |
| elmo | any reason fglrx wouldn't work on a macbook pro? | 05:57 |
| infinity | The lack of a VGA BIOS may confuse it. No idea, though. | 05:58 |
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| mjg59 | elmo: If you're booting in bios compatibility mode, it should work fie | 05:59 |
| elmo | mm, I don't know what Colin did | 06:00 |
| elmo | cjwatson: ? | 06:00 |
| infinity | There's a claim that the dapper kernel supports mouse button emulation... | 06:01 |
| infinity | On some random website. :) | 06:01 |
| infinity | Oh, not so random, it's desrt's page. | 06:01 |
| elmo | god I can't even get to the terminal on this thing | 06:03 |
| elmo | this is such a cluster #"$Y# | 06:03 |
| infinity | But it's pretty, so that counts for something. | 06:03 |
| tfheen | infinity: I beg to disagree. The macbooks are ugly. :-) | 06:04 |
| elmo | tfheen: luca says "thanks" | 06:04 |
| infinity | tfheen: As a sleek, black IBM lover, I agree. | 06:04 |
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| elmo | ok, so I can't get to terminals because there ARE no consoles - apparently | 06:05 |
| elmo | WTF | 06:05 |
| infinity | No appropriate console driver in the kernel for macbooks? | 06:06 |
| infinity | If you were booting with bootcamp, you'd likely get a classic PC-style VGA-text (or vesafb or vga16fb) console out of it, I suspect. | 06:07 |
| mjg59 | elmo: Or he may have jumped. Not sure. | 06:07 |
| elmo | macbookpro != well supported hardware | 06:07 |
| elmo | mjg59: no, I am sure | 06:07 |
| mjg59 | I'm being given awfully vague information | 06:07 |
| elmo | sorry, the "?" was rhetorical or something | 06:07 |
| mjg59 | Now I'm even more confused | 06:07 |
| mjg59 | :((((( | 06:07 |
| elmo | mjg59: I can give you more details but a) later and b) probably off-chan? (this one at least) | 06:07 |
| mjg59 | elmo: Sure, no problem | 06:08 |
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| elmo | infinity: where's this page? | 06:09 |
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| elmo | I've got everything except hotkeys and right click now | 06:10 |
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| mdz | Mez: katapult completely failing to launch sounds severe, yes | 06:11 |
| mdz | Mez: but how is it that no one noticed until now | 06:11 |
| mdz | ? | 06:11 |
| superm1 | I was considering starting a project that would focus around a customized live cd with ubuiqity modified and tailored much more towards mythtv setup and associated applications to go with it. Should I write a spec for this, or how is the best way to go about it "officially"? | 06:12 |
| infinity | elmo: http://desrt.mcmaster.ca/macbook.xhtml | 06:13 |
| infinity | elmo: You can do right-clickwith xmodmap, if you don't care about it working in the console, but the theory is that there's a kernel driver that should be making a bunch of hotkeys (and the right-click emulation) work.. At least, if I'm reading the page right. | 06:14 |
| elmo | this page is full of lies | 06:14 |
| elmo | it's like "merged in dapper, fixed in dapper" | 06:14 |
| elmo | and none of it works in edgy | 06:14 |
| mjg59 | It all was | 06:14 |
| mjg59 | If it's reverted in edgy, that's because the patches got lost at some point | 06:14 |
| elmo | ok, then edgy is full of ugly ugly ugly regressions for this machine | 06:15 |
| mjg59 | Complete absence of bug reports that I've seen, I'm afraid | 06:15 |
| mjg59 | And no hardware here | 06:15 |
| mjg59 | That does suck, though | 06:15 |
| mjg59 | Can you file a bug against the kernel? | 06:15 |
| mjg59 | We'll presumably be pushing an update at some stage... | 06:15 |
| infinity | I'd have expected desrt to track edgy and whine loudly if this stuff broke... | 06:15 |
| mjg59 | Yeah, I'd have thought | 06:15 |
| mjg59 | Unless it all ended up macbook (not pro) specific, or something crack like that | 06:16 |
| infinity | Though it's pretty telling that we only had one MacBook user (or only one willing to file bugs) | 06:16 |
| Mez | mdz: it has been noticed, in July ... but I only found out about it lately... | 06:16 |
| mjg59 | Well, the installer doesn't work | 06:16 |
| infinity | mjg59: His page mentions Pro and non-Pro off and on, so I assume some of it's been tested on both. | 06:16 |
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| cjwatson | elmo: ctrl-alt-fn-f1 might work to get to consoles (press in that order)? | 07:15 |
| cjwatson | or ctrl-cmd-... - try the various combinations | 07:15 |
| cjwatson | elmo: if this is Luca's box, there are definitely consoles, because I used them | 07:15 |
| cjwatson | elmo: I set it up to boot using refit. I think it's in BIOS compatibility mode but I'm not certain | 07:16 |
| cjwatson | elmo: the mac_hid configuration thing is a bit of a mess. I think the right answer may be just to change the defaults in the kernel rather than messing about further with procps | 07:16 |
| cjwatson | elmo: but yeah, mac_hid would kind of need to be available in the kernel ... | 07:17 |
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| elmo | cjwatson: when I stopped gdm remotely, it went to a blank screen | 07:18 |
| elmo | cjwatson: and none of the combos I tried got me to a combo, but *shrug* that's less important right now, I worked around it by ssh-ing in | 07:18 |
| cjwatson | elmo: did you try chvt 1? | 07:18 |
| cjwatson | elmo: alternatively it could be that X buggered up the console | 07:18 |
| elmo | cjwatson: ah, no didn't occur to me | 07:18 |
| cjwatson | elmo: oh, hmm, might be worth trying fbdev? it'll be slower, but might work better ... | 07:18 |
| cjwatson | maybe vesa doesn't know how to restore whatever the heck the fb is on the macbook (I forget) | 07:19 |
| cjwatson | elmo: installing that machine was why I suddenly made myself the assignee for intel-mac-support, because it was such a nightmare to make work at all | 07:19 |
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| elmo | cjwatson: yeah, it's a horror show, it's looking a little better now | 07:22 |
| elmo | with the addition of restricted and fglrx, I've got decent X, sound, and wireless at least | 07:22 |
| thom | is that a core duo or a core2 duo? | 07:23 |
| elmo | not sure, the laptop (and it's owner) have left for the day | 07:24 |
| thom | ah | 07:24 |
| thom | cos i was thinking about acquiring a core2 duo one as a desktop replacement | 07:25 |
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| doko | mdz, cjwatson: still working? if yes, please see bug 68380 and bug 68396 | 07:47 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 68380 in eclipse "eclipse for edgy-updates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68380 | 07:47 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 68396 in openoffice.org "openoffice.org for edgy-updates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68396 | 07:47 |
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| Flk | mjg59: m0000000000000 | 07:54 |
| mjg59 | Flk: Ha | 07:55 |
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| mdz | doko: please email | 07:59 |
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| cjwatson | elmo: oh good | 08:34 |
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| Gadi | infinity: do you know what the event loops issue is in udev wrt accessing removable devices on the ide bus? | 08:48 |
| Gadi | Im thinking about just changing that rule in my initramfs | 08:48 |
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| jonh_wendell | How can i proceed to suggest a new version of a package (in main) | 09:26 |
| jonh_wendell | just open a new bug against the package? | 09:27 |
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| G0SUB | what is the use of the ``terminal multiplexor[sic] '' service in Edgy? | 09:32 |
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| G0SUB | I am curious about what it does | 09:32 |
| Burgwork | jonh_wendell: yes, but it would be for feisty, not edgy | 09:33 |
| Burgwork | jonh_wendell: which app? | 09:33 |
| jonh_wendell | Burgwork: rdesktop. Just filled the bug 68701 | 09:33 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 68701 in rdesktop "New version (1.5), sync from debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68701 | 09:33 |
| jonh_wendell | Burgwork: and about edgy-updates? | 09:33 |
| Burgwork | nope | 09:34 |
| jonh_wendell | :( | 09:34 |
| G0SUB | jonh_wendell: if and only if it has a dataloss bug, we can publish a new version via edgy-updates | 09:35 |
| Burgwork | it can backported | 09:35 |
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| jonh_wendell | ok, i understood | 09:36 |
| jonh_wendell | btw, is the way the bug was reported correct? | 09:37 |
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| sladen | cjwatson: I have a HP DL360-G5 here which doesn't get any further than the first blue installation screen. Same on dapper and etch | 09:47 |
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| mantiena-baltix | pitti: hi, are you alive ? | 09:52 |
| neuralis | sladen: which screen is that? keyboard selection? | 09:52 |
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| sladen | neuralis: just after keyboard selection for Ubuntu; just before keyboard selection for etch (might have got them switched, each cycles takes $time) | 10:05 |
| neuralis | sladen: ilo2 bug, most likely, there's a patch; i spoke to benc about it, but he thinks it's in ubuntu's kernel already | 10:12 |
| neuralis | sladen: debian bug 384202 | 10:12 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 384202 in installation-reports "Failure on systems with HP iLO 2" [Important,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/384202 | 10:12 |
| neuralis | sladen: (rather, he thinks it should even be in the dapper kernel, where i can replicate your problem; .17 upstream should have it, so it really ought to work with edgy) | 10:14 |
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| neuralis | sladen: as a temporary measure, you can start in expert mode and simply bypass the keyboard selection step. | 10:15 |
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| G0SUB | edgy seems to be way more resource hungry than dapper | 10:55 |
| G0SUB | it took > 15 minutes on a machine with 256 MB RAM to load the live CD | 10:56 |
| pygi | G0SUB: no, not really =) | 10:58 |
| pygi | G0SUB: I tried running it multiple times on 256MB machines | 10:58 |
| ubuntu_demon | G0SUB: what kind of machine ? | 10:58 |
| G0SUB | pygi: running? or loading the live CD? | 10:58 |
| G0SUB | ubuntu_demon: it's a newish celeron based laptop | 10:59 |
| pygi | G0SUB: well, running the live cd, which means it also had to load ;) | 10:59 |
| G0SUB | pygi: odd. | 10:59 |
| ubuntu_demon | G0SUB: probably some bug somewhere I'd guess | 11:00 |
| pygi | G0SUB: what's the drive? QDC as always? :P | 11:00 |
| G0SUB | pygi: it certainly has some issues with laptops. i should investigate where it stalls | 11:00 |
| G0SUB | pygi: don't know, it's not mine. | 11:00 |
| pygi | G0SUB: what's with drive's DMA? | 11:00 |
| G0SUB | pygi: in any case, the newer usplash (though fantastic) has some issues with vga=xxx kernel param | 11:01 |
| G0SUB | pygi: DMA is surely on | 11:01 |
| pygi | G0SUB: about vga, I know :-/ | 11:01 |
| azeem | G0SUB: did you try the noapic boot option? | 11:01 |
| G0SUB | pygi: any fixes? | 11:01 |
| G0SUB | azeem: no. what does it do? | 11:01 |
| pygi | G0SUB: you could try running vga=normal | 11:02 |
| sladen | neuralis: thanks for the work-around. Good news is that latest etch daily works | 11:02 |
| G0SUB | pygi: well, normal will be just normal. I want vga=791 | 11:02 |
| azeem | G0SUB: how long did booting the dapper livecd take on that notebook? | 11:02 |
| pygi | G0SUB: right, well it has it's problems =P | 11:02 |
| pygi | that's just usplash :P | 11:02 |
| pygi | it had even more serious problems before :P | 11:02 |
| G0SUB | azeem: the hdd install is < 45 secs. don't remember the live cd one. in any case, far far less than this one. | 11:03 |
| G0SUB | pygi: I sure hope they will be fixed. | 11:03 |
| pygi | G0SUB: in -updates perhaps, dunno | 11:03 |
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| azeem | G0SUB: then I suggest you try noapic, it fixed a similar symptom for a notebook I tested | 11:03 |
| G0SUB | azeem: trying right now | 11:03 |
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| G0SUB | azeem: nope, didn't help. | 11:13 |
| azeem | :-/ | 11:13 |
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| G0SUB | azeem: it took a LOT of time to go past the squashfs stage and then got stuck at loading GDM (I see the gdm background and cursor) | 11:14 |
| G0SUB | may be the CDROM drive is to blame | 11:14 |
| G0SUB | pygi: do you know what major changes has been made to usplash this time? | 11:15 |
| ubuntu_demon | I reported a bug today. On my girlfriend's pc with a real crappy monitor she can't see usplash while booting. She only sees a black screen. | 11:17 |
| sladen | ubuntu_demon: does the monitor power off? | 11:18 |
| ubuntu_demon | I don't know whether it should be assigned to usplash or initramfs-tools or the kernel. Here's the bug : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/68647 | 11:18 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 68647 in initramfs-tools "[maybe initramfs-tools or usplash?] black screen during usplash. Ubuntu boots fine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 11:18 |
| ubuntu_demon | sladen: it appears to just show a black screen. It's old crappy 14" monitor. | 11:19 |
| ubuntu_demon | sladen: I always have to turn the monitor off by pressing the off button .. that's how old it is ;) | 11:20 |
| ubuntu_demon | sladen: it appears to not get any signal until gdm is reached | 11:20 |
| ubuntu_demon | sladen: but I'm not sure. I'm no expert at monitors | 11:20 |
| G0SUB | sladen: can you kindly take a look at bug 68545 too? is there any fix for it? | 11:21 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 68545 in usplash "Behaves incorrectly with a custom vga=791 kernel parameter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68545 | 11:21 |
| stgraber | ubuntu_demon: what's the value of the vga= parameter in /boot/grub/menu.lst ? | 11:21 |
| Mez | evening sladen | 11:21 |
| ubuntu_demon | stgraber: There's no vga= option by default I tried vga=normal. it didn't help | 11:21 |
| ubuntu_demon | I turned of the lights in this room. It really gets no signal while usplash .. it emits no light at all | 11:24 |
| pygi | G0SUB: Dunno really, but I was using usplash since ages ago from cvs | 11:24 |
| pygi | G0SUB: splashy also, and it seems to behave a bit better | 11:24 |
| pygi | tho it also had the vga= problem at start | 11:24 |
| jonh_wendell | any firefox guy here? | 11:24 |
| G0SUB | pygi: splashy is what i used way back ... | 11:25 |
| pygi | jonh_wendell: just ask what you need ^_^ | 11:25 |
| jonh_wendell | pygi: look at bug 68510 please | 11:25 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 68510 in firefox "firefox crashes when looking at google maps" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68510 | 11:25 |
| jonh_wendell | should i reject it or ask for more tests? | 11:26 |
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| pygi | o joy, flash :P | 11:26 |
| sladen | ubuntu_demon: does the monitor go on standby? | 11:26 |
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| sladen | ubuntu_demon: or is the monitor old enough to not do things like standby? | 11:27 |
| pygi | jonh_wendell: you could ask to try to provide "howto crash ff in that particular case" | 11:27 |
| pygi | jonh_wendell: if no usable response withnin few days, close | 11:27 |
| pygi | jonh_wendell: my suggestion:) | 11:27 |
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| ubuntu_demon | sladen: I *think* the monitor is too old to be able to go on standby | 11:28 |
| jonh_wendell | pygi: ok, thanks | 11:28 |
| G0SUB | bah! it seems stellarium on i386 is completely broken | 11:28 |
| sladen | evening mez | 11:29 |
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| ubuntu_demon | I filed the bug to initramfs-tools because I didn't know whether I should file it to usplash or initramfs-tools | 11:30 |
| G0SUB | ubuntu_demon: can you check if stellarium works? | 11:30 |
| ubuntu_demon | G0SUB : not related to this usplash/initramfs-tools/? bug right ? | 11:31 |
| G0SUB | ubuntu_demon: not at all. different bug | 11:31 |
| ubuntu_demon | G0SUB : thought so ;) wanted to make sure | 11:32 |
| ubuntu_demon | G0SUB : I'll try it on my laptop then ;) | 11:32 |
| G0SUB | ubuntu_demon: try anywhere, it seg faults when i try to run it here (i386) | 11:32 |
| ubuntu_demon | G0SUB: okay. I will try it with my current running generic kernel | 11:33 |
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| ubuntu_demon | G0SUB: doesn't segfault here. At what moment does it segfault ? What's the link to the bug ? | 11:35 |
| G0SUB | ubuntu_demon: I am reporting the bug. let me investigate it a bit first | 11:36 |
| ubuntu_demon | G0SUB: I'm running the latest Edgy generic kernel with an intel Core Duo | 11:36 |
| G0SUB | ubuntu_demon: i am on the default kernel too, but a P-4 M proc | 11:37 |
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| pygi | sivang: ping? | 11:37 |
| ubuntu_demon | G0SUB: I'm not on the default kernel which is 386 AFAIK. I installed linux-generic | 11:38 |
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| G0SUB | ubuntu_demon: i am on the generaic one too. IIRC on edgy generic is 686 or 586 | 11:38 |
| ubuntu_demon | G0SUB: okay :) | 11:38 |
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| G0SUB | ubuntu_demon: man, the core dump is 18 MB !! | 11:40 |
| ubuntu_demon | G0SUB: :) | 11:41 |
| G0SUB | (gzipped) | 11:41 |
| ubuntu_demon | Does anyone have any insight in : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/68328 it's about hibernate/suspend for my laptop | 11:42 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 68328 in linux-source-2.6.17 "suspend-to-ram and hibernate-to-disk don't work properly." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 11:42 |
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| ubuntu_demon | I'm especially wondering whether I can provide more useful information somehow for that one | 11:43 |
| ubuntu_demon | I will be away for a bit | 11:45 |
| ubuntu_demon | (offtopic : I will stay logged on and will check back after I watched naruto) | 11:45 |
| bluefoxicy | did anyone teach Edgy to not start X until something figures out what video card we have and if it's changed from last boot and updates X? | 11:49 |
| bluefoxicy | or is my soon to be attempted switch to an nVidia FX5200 going to result in my computer booting to "X KEEPS CRASHING HELP :(" mode? | 11:49 |
| bluefoxicy | (yes I'll find out when I actually try; the question is more posed as a reminder that this definitely needs to be addressed some day) | 11:50 |
| bluefoxicy | (But I'm curious too, I know upstart's able to do stuff like this.... :) | 11:50 |
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| G0SUB | ubuntu_demon: bug 68724 | 11:55 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 68724 in stellarium "Stellarium crashes at start-up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68724 | 11:55 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 12:06 |
| surak | night, ajmitch. Where are you? :-) | 12:07 |
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| ajmitch | surak: New Zealand | 12:08 |
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| ubuntu_demon | good night guys :) | 12:09 |
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