crimsun(This is obviously subjective.)12:15
crimsunBurgwork: oh. In that case I'm backing away slowly.12:16
=== pygi used scons with Diva, and will use it in one of his future projects
Burgworkcrimsun: better run as I can run faster12:16
pygicrimsun: but autotools are bad as well :P12:16
crimsunautotools are even worse than scons.12:16
pygicrimsun: signed :)12:17
theCorepygi, have you packaged Diva?12:27
pygitheCore: can't, it's not running on top of stable gst yet12:28
theCorepygi, I tried to, but Diva required a patched version of gstreamer12:28
theCorepygi, ahh12:28
pygitheCore: no kidding :)12:28
Burgworkwhat about pitivi12:28
Burgworkit actually uses gnonlin12:29
pygitheCore: the svn version shouldnt really need it, but there are still some problems ^_^12:29
pygiwhich is also buggy :P12:29
theCoreI think there was plan to make Diva runnable on plain Gst12:29
theCorea plan*12:29
pygitheCore: I know, I'm one of devs =)12:31
pygitheCore: that's why I'm telling you about the svn version which SHOULD work on top of plain gst12:31
pygibut I think we still have some problems12:31
theCorepygi, oh, I thought mdk was still alone doing his project12:33
pygitheCore: nop, for some time12:33
pygitheCore: Senko jumped on, and later I did12:33
pygibut no much progress lately as you probably know due to that *problems*12:33
crimsunhmm, why was my note on EdgyReleaseNotes regarding asoundconf removed? I was asked by fabbione to place that note.12:33
theCorepygi, I would jump in, but I got no experience with C#, neither with video editing12:34
pygitheCore: what about C & gst knowledge? :)12:34
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Burgworkhey jono12:36
theCorepygi, I'm good with C, but I'm a total ignorant of gst12:36
crimsunah, I see mdz removed it. Oh well.12:36
pygitheCore: oh :(12:36
theCorepygi, although, it may changes12:38
pygiwould be nice :) You know partly diva is based on GDV, the gst engine MDK wrote?12:38
jonoBurgwork, howdy12:38
Burgworkpygi: my question is: Why did diva use gdv and not gnonlin?12:39
theCorepygi, yeah, I saw that in the source code12:39
pygiBurgwork: ask MDK and ask Miguel Icaza ^_^12:40
pygiBurgwork: they probably made that decision at start of SoC two years ago12:40
LaserJockhi jono 12:41
jonohey LaserJock 12:41
nixternali see how it is now..during the "construction" phase everyone hides..and now that we are in the "delivery" stage everyone is back ;)12:48
nixternalhaha, i knew you would be the first12:48
Burgworkall here for the glory and none of the hard work12:48
nixternalmdke gets the "Documentation Hard Work" Award for sure12:49
JoseStefanwho updates the source-o-matic ?01:10
nixternalSeveas i believe01:18
nixternalyes, that is Seveas' project01:18
JoseStefanthats 2 things that point me to him :/01:26
JoseStefanthat and ubotu01:26
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cerosis there a discussion section for each article in the documentation wiki?02:59
Burgworksadly no03:00
ceroswill there be one soon?03:00
Burgworkyou can create a /Talk page03:00
cerosyou mean for each article?03:01
Burgworkany you want to comment on03:01
ceroshow would i create one?03:03
Burgworkgo to the page and create it03:04
cerosok, finally figured out how it's done on this wiki03:22
ceroswell i was goint to ask about editing pages in the ubuntu documentation wiki03:23
ceroswe're allowed to edit them right?03:23
cerosi changed the script for installing the w32codecs for i386 machines03:26
Burgworksounds good03:26
ceroswould there be a better way to install w32codecs?03:26
Burgworktell people to wget and then dpkg -i?03:27
cerosthe mirror to plf was broken03:27
cerosdon't know anyother place to get this package03:27
cerosi was thinking there's a way to do the same thing but without creating a symlink03:28
cerossymbolic link03:28
Burgworkno, understand what it is03:28
BurgworkI don't understand what you mean in this context03:28
cerosi have the script telling me to get the package straight from mplayerhq03:29
cerosit's a tar.bz2 package03:29
Burgworkthat is crack03:29
cerosi can't just tell it to extract straight to /usr/lib/codecs because it will create a folder called all-*03:29
cerosand then extract all the files03:30
Burgworklets see if we can find w32codecs from somewhere else03:30
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cerosthanks for your help03:45
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dthacker_awaynot much on the doc list at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Projects.  Where is help needed the most?05:06
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Burgundaviadthacker: what do you like doing?05:16
Burgundaviathe project list is old05:16
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dthackerBurgundavia: I like writing and editing.  I'm currently editing a bunch 'o pages for tikiwkiw.org at http:://doc/tikiwiki.org05:30
Burgundaviawell the wiki at help.ubuntu.com/community always needs help05:31
Burgundaviamy suggestion would be to write what you know quite a lot about05:32
dthackerBurgundavia: How do I get there?  http://help.ubuntu.com/community doesn't seem to work05:33
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MadpilotBurgundavia, your alter-ego is back again, must have just stepped out for coffee ;)05:44
UbugtuNew bug: #68521 in kubuntu-docs "Kubuntu release notes refer to Firefox 2.0 which isn't included" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6852105:51
UbugtuNew bug: #68523 in kubuntu-docs "Kubuntu Desktop Guide: No default bit torrent capability is installed with Kubuntu - actually ktorrent is in default install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6852305:51
UbugtuNew bug: #68524 in kubuntu-docs "Kubuntu Desktop Guide: Networking section refers to ethereal, now called wireshark" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6852405:51
BurgundaviaMadpilot: yep05:53
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UbugtuNew bug: #68525 in kubuntu-docs "Kubuntu Desktop Guide: refers to adept handbook - not included.." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6852505:56
UbugtuNew bug: #68527 in kubuntu-docs "Kubuntu Desktop Guide: says type "kdesu adept" this breaks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6852706:05
nixternalholy shnikeys we did a crappy job if we just got bombarded like that06:11
nixternalwho is Caroline Ford?  She sure can pinpoint boogs big time06:11
Madpilotwe should invite her into the docteam as a proofreader :)06:12
nixternalno doubt06:12
nixternalshe is a big time bug person, and seems to always read over our work big time..i like that06:12
nixternali can fix those in the repos now can't i?06:20
nixternaland when Riddell gets a chance, can recheck them out later to fix the system06:20
nixternalall those bugs are due to us just writing over the old breezy and dapper docs...just goes to show that a rewrite just might be neccessary06:23
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nixternaloh no, staffer, watch out everyone ;)06:30
nixternal5 days away until booday06:34
nixternalyou can't take it back, to late ;)06:35
robyeah I can ^ :)06:35
nixternalnope, you are still timestamped at 23:34:12 here in Chicago, and you little s/boo// didn't remove it, so no you can't take it back ;)06:36
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jroesis there a reason behind giving users commands like "apt-get install pkg pkg pkg" when they will almost always need to drop a "sudo" in front of that?07:49
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mdkenixternal: before we fix those bugs we need to check that trunk is up to date with any changes that were made to the edgy branch after we branched it off09:09
mdkejroes: I don't think so.09:09
mdkejroes: our policy is really to tell users to "install pkg" rather than tie them down to a particular method of installation09:10
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UbugtuNew bug: #67586 in kubuntu-docs (main) "default homepage nonexistant" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6758610:23
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PlugOn the subject of documentation, probably worth asking here first10:56
Plugis 'gksu "update-manager -c"' acceptable for an upgrade?10:56
PlugOr should I file a bug along the lines of "provide an alias for that" or "add a right-click the tray icon to do it" option?10:56
PlugI guess that the update-manager method is the only one guaranteed to work for versions < feisty, even if it is made easier10:57
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nixternalmdke: how do you go about updating between the branches?  do you just run diff, create a patch, and apply it to trunk?  or just copy over from edgy to trunk?05:10
jsgotangcothe current trunk should have been branched or it may alreayd ahve been i dunno05:13
nixternalit has been05:13
nixternaljust for a few weeks now05:13
jsgotangcowhy would you like to muck up with the branch?05:14
nixternal[02:09:33]  <mdke> nixternal: before we fix those bugs we need to check that trunk is up to date with any changes that were made to the edgy branch after we branched it off05:14
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mdkenixternal: yeah just do a diff on the relevant document and see what's changed. Decide if it should apply to trunk, and if so, do it07:26
nixternalalready did it...there was only a couple small changes for the kubuntu side of things07:26
nixternalalready fixed teh boogs as well, and creating a new package for Riddell07:27
nixternalthere is a stingy bug with the firefox frontpage with kubuntu, but it is an /etc/alternatives issue07:27
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mdkenixternal: creating a new package?07:58
nixternaldebdiff rather07:58
mdkefor what distribution?07:59
nixternalupdating the current package is what i should have said07:59
mdkeah, that was quick07:59
nixternalya, well someone found a bunch of bugs with the KDG, and then there was the standing release number issue with the release notes08:00
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mdke_nixternal: if changing strings in the edgy branch you need to copy the changes to trunk too10:08
nixternalya i will here in a bit10:08
nixternali had to run and take care of some stuff ;)10:08
mdke_cool. It doesn't have to be done immediately10:08
nixternali have most of them copied over already10:09
nixternalthanks for highlighting me with that though..i could have very well forgotten to do it, since today is super busy for me10:09
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UbugtuNew bug: #68712 in ubuntu-docs "IMPORTANT bad translation in file index-fr_FR.html" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6871210:40
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claudehi all,11:06
claudeis the firefox home page in an ubuntu-doc template in Rosetta ?11:06
claudeat least, i found the page in the svn repos11:17
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