[05:39] <nikon> hello all
[05:45] <sid> Hello nikon
[05:54] <poningru> ello ello
[06:02] <nikon> can someone point me to a good howto for creating a wiki page?
[06:03] <Flannel> nikon: besides the Wiki Docs?
[06:03] <Madpilot> nikon, guidelines for the Ubuntu wikis, or general ones?
[06:03] <nikon> are wiki pages html or another type of code
[06:04] <Madpilot> they become HTML
[06:04] <Madpilot> but wiki markup is not (quite) html when you type it up
[06:05] <Flannel> nikon: wiki markup is more like the markup flavors web forums use, where they convert their own markup to html markup to viewers, but not editors
[06:06] <poningru> hey
[06:06] <rylasasin> hello heres my question
[06:06] <poningru> ok so legal wise you are in the clear
[06:06] <poningru> as in as long as you dont change much of anything you are good to go
[06:06] <rylasasin> suppose I have a company that builds computers (local)
[06:06] <Madpilot> rylasasin, go ahead and sell it, is the basic answer ;)
[06:06] <poningru> technically speaking we can help with that as well
[06:07] <Flannel> rylasasin: you'll probably want to check out the oem install
[06:07] <rylasasin> ok like is there a price limit on it or do I have to follow any set of special procedures or what?
[06:07] <poningru> rylasasin: as in there is a seller option under alternate cd
[06:07] <poningru> rylasasin: nope
[06:07] <nikon> i kindof understand...so is there a beginners guide to wiki markup
[06:07] <rylasasin> so we could sell ubuntu at any price we please?
[06:07] <poningru> rylasasin: there is an oem install option in the alternate cd
[06:07] <Madpilot> nikon, there are some help pages on the Ubuntu wiki; just a minute, I'll dig them out for you
[06:07] <rylasasin> I'll have to check that out
[06:07] <Madpilot> rylasasin, whatever the market will bear
[06:08] <Flannel> nikon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HelpOnEditing
[06:08] <poningru> rylasasin: yep whatever price you want
[06:08] <nikon> thank you flannel
[06:08] <Madpilot> Flannel, thanks, was just going for that URL
[06:08] <Flannel> nikon: or, I suppose https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HelpForBeginners is more appropriate
[06:10] <rylasasin> ah ok. I'm going to present a computer to my boss tommorow with ubuntu on it, so I thought I'd want to know the legal info on that ahead of time
[06:11] <Madpilot> rylasasin, the licenses that Ubuntu is released under a properly Free, ie you can use them commercially or whatever
[06:12] <Flannel> rylasasin: the OEM mode will allow you to set up ubuntu, and still let the end users set up their final user stuff (username, password, locale, etc) on first boot
[06:12] <rylasasin> ok
[06:13] <poningru> rylasasin: there is a legal page on the ubuntu website
[06:14] <rylasasin> ok second question (not sure if this goes here but) suppose we do start selling it. we want to make sure the user has the right drivers and updates when they get thier pc
[06:14] <rylasasin> for web sufing and whatnot
[06:14] <poningru> ok...
[06:15] <rylasasin> what are some recommended ones? (I know I cant get YTMND to work with sound on some pages cause I dont' know what I need to install. flash is one but it also uses quicktime)
[06:15] <Flannel> rylasasin: quicktime? no.  mp3s, yes.
[06:16] <rylasasin> its basicly looping MP3s and WAVs on YMTND
[06:18] <rylasasin> try a page at www.ytmnd.com and tell me what drivers I need to make this site work. also newgrounds etc
[06:19] <rylasasin> oh its also animated gifs... anything special we need for that?
[06:19] <Flannel> rylasasin: a GUI ;)
[06:19] <rylasasin> lol
[06:20] <rylasasin> I mean somthing thats NOT included with the initial install
[06:20] <rylasasin> and can we include wine, XGL, Beryl, etc. with our machines?
[06:25] <poningru> yep
[06:26] <rylasasin> alright good :)
[06:27] <rylasasin> cause yeah cause I realise a lot of the stuff we include with our builds (Nero, powerdvd, adobe acrobat, intell drivers etc) aren't going to be necessary with any sort of ubuntu builds I think
[06:27] <rylasasin> but it would require a whole new set of things
[06:27] <Madpilot> Probably the final version: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu-rough-thumb.png
[06:27] <Burgundavia> cool
[06:29] <Flannel> Madpilot: still hating the rest of us!
[06:29] <Madpilot> Flannel, gah, sorry. One second.
[06:30] <Flannel> Madpilot: nah, no big deal.  I'll pretend it's awesome
[06:31] <Madpilot> Flannel, http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7853/ubunturoughthumbmh0.png
[06:34] <poningru> Madpilot: I see no cc license
[06:35] <Madpilot> poningru, PD
[06:35] <Madpilot> simpler
[06:35] <poningru> nice
[06:35] <Madpilot> that'll be in the metadata of the SVG, I guess I should add it to the visible footnotes of the poster
[06:35] <poningru> unfortunately in the US that means full copyright
[06:36] <poningru> you have to mark it pd
[06:36] <poningru> yeah I know gay
[06:36] <poningru> working on it
[06:49] <Madpilot> http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubunturoughcuttj8.png
[06:49] <Madpilot> PD mark added
[08:07] <Flannel> info smbclient
[08:07] <Flannel> ack, sorry.
[08:30] <nikon> mmmmmmm ramon noodles.......that is all
[08:30] <lotusleaf> mmmmmmmm excess salt
[08:31] <lotusleaf> nikon: do you drink the broth too?
[08:32] <nikon> of course
[08:33] <nikon> keeps me going during late night linux updates haha
[08:34] <lotusleaf> lol
[08:35] <lotusleaf> nikon: I feast upon carne asada burritos and five rolled tacos as I lap the sweet milk from a coconut with a forked tongue and bat wings as the demons beat their drums through the firely rings of the basketball courts in hell
[08:35] <lotusleaf> ah, and there's the microwave, supper time!
[08:36] <nikon> my diner, sadly, is not as lively. just noodles and an after diner cigerette.
[08:36] <nikon> speaking of cigerette, brb