[12:11] night imbrandon_ [12:12] dpkg-buildpackage doesn't care about launchpad [12:12] fbond, I know... just stating the point I have a gpg key associated with my email [12:12] luisbg: try using -k with debuild [12:12] Amaranth: the old site had less than 200 images and i load tested it with over 5000 so i think it will be fine [12:12] imbrandon_: how nasty & ugly are the hacks? [12:12] LaserJock, did and no difference [12:12] luisbg: something's wrong then [12:12] ajmitch: pretty clean actualy ( cept one to disable the java crap ) [12:12] Are you able to sign anything with gpg explicitly? [12:13] luisbg, do this: touch nothing; gpg -b nothing [12:13] make sure that your name and email both match exactly what they are supposed to for the gpg key. so if your Joe Shmow, make sure its not signing Joe S. [12:13] (in the changelog) [12:14] fbond, a nothing.sig is created with my signature [12:14] signing doesn't matter for when you're making a debdiff, though === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:14] superm1, doublechecked a possible spelling error === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-071-016.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:15] it's my name... after the million times I have written it... hard to mispell === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:16] luisbg, not sure why dpkg-buildpackage is failing to sign ... [12:17] [17:12] Amaranth: the old site had less than 200 images and i load tested it with over 5000 so i think it will be fine [12:17] fbond, I'm as confused [12:17] thanks for the help anyway [12:17] imbrandon_: Yeah, I saw. [12:18] kk [12:18] imbrandon_: I was only using an alpha of it but I remember it falling over when I got 10,000 or so loaded into it [12:18] gallery1 yea becouse its file based [12:18] not galler2 [12:18] I had to give it insane amounts of RAM to keep going when I had more than a few people [12:18] no no, it was g2 [12:19] it wasn't even really 'alpha' they just didn't want to commit to the plugin API yet [12:19] welp i guess we'll see, if nothing else i'll do some home grown python/php [12:22] anybody know how to convert a mbox to courier? [12:23] courier can use mbox format iirc, but there are ways to convert mbox to maildir [12:24] hmm, I found a mbox2maildir [12:24] keep a backup :) [12:24] but sounds promising [12:24] yes, well the server already fried [12:25] so I've grabbed some backups first thing [12:25] :P [12:25] it must have been really something, took 3 days to get email back up === ubuntu-es [n=ubuntu@200.121.86.253] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:26] wow [12:26] where at ? === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o ubuntu-es] by ChanServ [12:27] imbrandon: my department at the uni [12:27] !?! [12:27] why did a bot just op up? [12:27] automagic scripts? === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o ajmitch] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o ubuntu-es] by ajmitch === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o ajmitch] by ajmitch [12:28] heh next q i guess is why its on the access list heh [12:28] it's not [12:28] why the chanserv settings haven't been changed, I don't know [12:28] anybody can get op [12:28] because they're completely broken for here [12:28] ahh [12:29] man i should be waking up right now and i cant sleep [12:29] too much caffeine i think === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpon [n=jpon@neu67-3-82-239-80-181.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:41] so where can one get himself a nice ubuntu t-shirt? === milc [n=milc@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:43] !google ubuntu tee shirt [01:44] Results for: ubuntu tee shirt [01:44] I cant find a result for that, sorry [01:44] try http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop ? [01:48] yeah... cafepress [01:48] some interesting stuff [01:48] how much is the shipping to europe though? [01:49] no idea === ben_ [n=ben@fe.7e.b9d8.static.theplanet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:51] http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/help/shipping.aspx === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === alejandro [n=alejandr@87.Red-80-34-178.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=Lutin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Bye"] === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jasonr@unaffiliated/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco_ [n=jsg123@125.212.120.174] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] wow $7 [02:14] would have to buy a few stuff at once to make it worth it [02:16] I believe free software projects should give a t-shirt or similar of their project as a present to people who contribute significantly [02:16] would make the contributors wear proud their gifts [02:17] and have more people interested in spending some time contributing === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu === orion2012 [n=orion@cpe-70-114-30-76.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] yikes === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] I just did a du -sh in ~/ on the department server. I got 3.3 GB [02:26] yikes? [02:26] that's nothing === foo_bar [n=orion@cpe-70-114-30-76.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:28] it seem like way too much to me [02:29] 422MB in mail [02:30] pfft [02:30] du -sh ~/Mail [02:30] 9.4G /home/ajmitch/Mail [02:30] there are some lists you should never subscribe to :) [02:30] crack fiend [02:31] jeeze [02:31] -rw------- 1 ajmitch ajmitch 1.1G 2006-10-18 18:15 sparc-rebuild [02:31] I don't even have that much total [02:31] lots of spam from fabbione [02:31] heh [02:31] next highest is the ubuntu-bugs stuff with 821MB [02:32] luisbg: some projects have some monetary compensation, but that's not what drives community involvement in Ubuntu [at least not that I can see] === finalbeta_ [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === orion2012 [n=orion@cpe-70-114-30-76.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] crimsun, it shouldn't be the objective (to get compensation), but it doesn't harm =) [02:43] anyway I prefer the friendliness of the community over anything else [02:43] that's why I'm happy with ubuntu === orion2012 [n=orion@cpe-70-114-30-76.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:45] well... going to sleep [02:45] ciao all! [02:45] bye [02:45] good night, luisbg [02:45] fbond, =) === luisbg zZzZZZzzzZZzzZZzzzzz.... === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-69-192.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] zsh-beta sure is nice after a spell with dash as my shell. [02:59] I've never really used zsh [02:59] what's special about it? [03:01] no idea; I've mostly used bash. [03:02] iirc zsh had intelligent tab-completion before bash gained it [03:03] yeah, it's still ahead in some points [03:03] also, it has proper vi keybinding support :-) === freeflying_ [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] jelmer, what's improper about bash's vi key support? [03:06] fbond: I hated it when I tried it, but that's more than 5 years ago so I can't really give you anything specific, sorry [03:07] I'm not even sure those issues are still there [03:07] hmm, it's all readline, I think [03:08] I'm pretty sure zsh doesn't use the default readline stuff for the vi keybindings [03:16] I tried zsh a while ago, it was really slick [03:17] there's a couple of small things that are really nice [03:18] such as suggesting host and usernames when tabcompleting ssh commands, remote filename completion for rsync/scp, svn completion makes sense ("svn add" only suggests unversioned files), etc [03:19] there's also a really slick zsh-newuser-install() that walks you through creating a new ~/.zshrc (with explanations) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] yeah, I was tempted to learn zsh, but then ... I ran it, and something was really different (don't remember what) and I ran away, scared. [03:21] I think bash's tab completion can do pretty much everything jelmer mentioned [03:21] I think the .zshrc looked nothing like bash's, and I couldn't even set my damn path right, or something [03:21] never fear, "Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-beta2-b86)" is far more menacing ;-) [03:21] oy, I tried getting tomcat to play nice with apache once [03:21] that was a waste of 6 hours [03:22] I don't even know Java... wish people would stop writing programs with it. [03:26] minghua: I haven't tried bash recently so I may be biased [03:27] jelmer: I am sure completing ssh hostname and scp filename (assume you use ssh key authentication) works [03:28] jelmer: I never tried rsync, and didn't really notice svn commands completion [03:28] but yes, I heard some people swear by zsh [03:28] bash is more than enough for me, though :-) === sepheebear [n=sepheebe@ool-45778673.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon25315.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] hrm [03:50] i feel guilty marking bugs 'rejected' [03:50] it feels harsh [03:50] i cant help but think 'NOTABUG' is better ;p [03:50] you'll get over that quickly. === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-206-191-56-75.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] Lathiat: come in php, we use "Bogus" there, not really a good replacement :P [03:52] heh [03:52] crimsun: well i just feel as an end user if i saw 'Rejected' vs 'Notabug' i'd be slightly more offended ;p [03:52] I normally attach an explanation in addition to the Status adjustment. [03:53] oh sure, but still === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lophyte [n=dsulliva@ubuntu/member/lophyte] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:57] so what's needed now is a bunch of bug triaging? [03:57] yeh the bugs are goign to come in en masse [03:58] okay I'll hope over to #ubuntu-bugs [03:58] I suppose universe bugs are going to come a bit later [03:58] the first wave should be installer bugs :-) [03:59] I tried to help with a few in the forums earlier... a lil tricky on the update process [03:59] but I hope I helped [04:02] Here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates it says SRUs must be approved by Matt Zimmerman or Colin Watson [04:02] that also applies for MOTU? [04:02] not yet === JonathanFerguson [n=Jonathan@186.108.240.220.dynamic.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JonathanFerguson [n=Jonathan@186.108.240.220.dynamic.dsl.comindico.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:03] we've yet to agree on an update procedure for universe === JonathanFerguson [n=Jonathan@186.108.240.220.dynamic.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:03] ok [04:04] which of those things did GNOME 2.14.1 slip into dapper under? [04:04] pre-agreed update [04:04] & each package was reviewed, iirc === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:11] hrm the update-mananger doesnt use $country.archive === sepheebear [n=sepheebe@ool-45778673.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:17] awesome i broke the update manager [04:17] i killed it after it started to download the new pckages so i could use ab etter mirror and now every time i hit upgrade it just barfs out ;p [04:27] haha " Why did you Reject this problem I'm having so quickly?" [04:27] i was right [04:27] heh === reggaemanu_ is now known as reggaemanu [04:30] Lathiat: "why do you say it's not a bug so quickly? I have it right here!" sounds better? :-) [04:31] Lathiat: which bug? [04:33] LaserJock: in an email personally [04:33] really? [04:36] yeh [04:36] 'sok he wasnt being nasty or anythign i just explained the situation to him ;p [04:40] LaserJock: do you know why the at package does not configure correctly when in a chroot debstrap environment in edgy? [04:40] LaserJock: i had proc and sysfs mounted and i had home and lc_all exported correctly === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:41] LaserJock: it says /etc/init.d/atd start failed [04:42] I don't know [04:42] LaserJock: the funny thing is it happens on edgy only and not on dapper [04:43] maybe there is something new you have to do on edgy in the chrooted environment? otherwise the edgy images whould fail to build [04:43] since the at packages is in ubuntu-standard [04:44] joejaxx: add "set -x" at the top of /etc/init.d/atd and you'll see exactly where it failed [04:44] minghua: alright let me do that === joejaxx goes to debstrap [04:48] package* [04:52] g'night all, got an early morning === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] Fujitsu: welcome back :) === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:04] Hi, my X server had an argument with an XDMCP server over wireless... :S === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:15] minghua: i just set -x [05:16] minghua: + /sbin/start-stop-daemon --start --nicelevel 0 --quiet --exec /usr/sbin/atd --oknodo --pidfile /dev/null -- [05:16] invoke-rc.d: initscript atd, action "start" failed. [05:18] i wonder why this is happening [05:18] joejaxx: no error messages? [05:19] minghua: i do not see any [05:19] that is the last line from set x before it displays what it normal displays === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:20] joejaxx: I feel reporting a bug is the best bet [05:20] minghua: i am just wondering how you all built the edgy images [05:20] without running into this problem [05:20] joejaxx: I don't know enough about init.d scripts. [05:21] oh alright [05:21] joejaxx: well, I don't remember installing atd in my chroot in the first place [05:21] minghua: well i am building livecds [05:21] and it needs the ubuntu-standard package [05:21] and it stops on that package [05:21] :) [05:21] I see [05:22] Ask other people who build live CD then :-) === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-68-178.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:23] minghua: too bad that package is not an uneeded one === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:25] joejaxx: I haven't seen anything about that [05:25] LaserJock: oh [05:25] :( [05:26] LaserJock: maybe it is the way i am mounting proc and sysfs? [05:26] mount -t proc none /proc && mount -t sysfs none /sys [05:26] anything look wrong with that? [05:27] you are mounting in the chroot? [05:27] yes [05:27] no idea then. I always mount from outside of the chroot [05:28] for proc, that is [05:28] minghua: maybe i should try that [05:28] how do you do that? [05:28] mount -t proc none /edgy-test/edit/proc? [05:29] i have always done it from inside the chroot [05:29] so i do not know how that works outside of it [05:29] joejaxx: yeah, something like that [05:29] minghua: oh ok [05:29] let me try that [05:29] although I usually use a different name than "none" === JonathanFerguson [n=Jonathan@186.108.240.220.dynamic.dsl.comindico.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:30] minghua: should i just use proc? [05:30] proc proc /path to /proc === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:31] oh nevermind that whould not work === joejaxx needs to sleep lol [05:34] hmm mounting outside of chroot does not work either === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:37] hello Burgwork [05:38] minghua: so you think i should still fill out that bug even though edgy images are operational? === JonathanFerguson [n=Jonathan@186.108.240.220.dynamic.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JonathanFerguson [n=Jonathan@186.108.240.220.dynamic.dsl.comindico.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:44] joejaxx: what do you mean by "image"? [05:44] joejaxx: I thought your problem is "atd can't be installed in chroot"? [05:45] it cannot be install in chroot [05:45] but it cannot be the package itself as the edgy livecd's are built from scratch [05:46] so it has to be something i am missing or something has changed from dapper that i do not know about [05:46] because it installs fine in dapper [05:46] oh, you are thinking maybe the problem is your own system [05:46] minghua: i have tried it on multiple systems [05:46] use your judgement then [05:47] minghua: so there is something new with edgy that i do not know about that deals with chrooting [05:47] minghua: oh ok [05:47] I don't think it hurts anything if I report a bug and gets rejected because of my own stupidity, but that's just my opinion [05:48] oh ok === jsgmobile [n=jsgmobil@125.212.120.174] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp234-5.lns3.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === predius [i=predius@69.60.114.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BrettHatley [n=wowwee@ven34-1-82-238-186-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === orion2012 [n=orion@cpe-70-114-30-76.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=imbrando@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@unaffiliated/lotusleaf] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@catv-tisnov-86.selfnet.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Chandy [n=Chandu@203.129.255.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:54] Hi [07:54] Hi Chandy. [07:55] Fujitsu, Can I know on What basis Packages will be moved from universe to main section [07:56] Chandy: If they are deemed necessary, and then only if they are able to be well supported, stable, etc... There are no strict guidelines, AFAIK. [07:56] Fujitsu, I found only some 4036 packages in main and 13000+ in universe [07:56] Chandy: Packages in main are officially supported by Canonical. universe is maintained by the community. [07:56] Fujitsu, What is theat AFAIK [07:57] `As far as I know' [07:57] Fujitsu, Canonical means what .. If that a team of Ubuntu developers [07:58] Fujitsu, How do I careate index file "Pacakges" for breezy [07:58] It is the corporate entity that supplies the capital for Ubuntu, and hires some developers to work on Ubuntu and related products. [07:58] Fujitsu, If I see Ubuntu pool .. It contains packages for all its release under same pool [07:58] Chandy: Why do you want to create such a file? [07:58] Chandy: Of course. === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:59] Fujitsu, No, I just want to know , How we can differentiate pacakges between breezy,dapper and edgy from the same pool [08:00] Fujitsu, I am bit confused in moving packages from universe to main [08:00] Fujitsu, I can see Abiword in both main and universe section of pool [08:00] Chandy: You can only differentiate between releases by the versions of the packages. === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.151.104.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:01] Fujitsu, ok..Now I have differenet versions of packages in the same pool [08:01] Chandy: Chances are that Abiword was originally in universe, but was moved into main a while ago... So the packages from the previous release will be in universe. [08:02] Fujitsu, If I want to create packages file for breezy , then it should take lower version pacakges .. "If I use dpkg-scanpackages" It takes higer version .. How do I do that === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-246-26-124.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] Fujitsu, Once it is moved to main section ..wont it be removed from universe [08:10] Chandy: It will remain in universe in the old releases. === Lutin [n=Lutin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:11] (sorry, I'm getting ready for my first job interview here, so my responses may be a little delayed) [08:12] Fujitsu, oh ..Good ..All the best [08:12] Thanks :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:20] bah, my X is b0rked after upgrade....bah === Kagou [n=Kagou@84.5.147.141] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@127.Red-83-50-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:32] good morning [08:32] Kagou, very good morning === jsgmobile [n=jsgmobil@125.212.120.174] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === antinobody [n=sean@host-245-245.resnet.pdx.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-102-19.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rytmisk [n=irc@155.143.134.168] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Gervystar [n=alessand@host52-173-static.120-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === antinobody [n=sean@host-245-245.resnet.pdx.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === imbrandon [n=imbrando@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:57] heya all [09:59] hey imbrandon [09:59] heya ajmitch [10:00] looks like atleaste part of the new toolchain is ready [10:00] woot [10:00] looks like the repos will open far sooner that i expected [10:02] that's expected [10:02] yea i dident figure it would be this fast though, i figured 2 weeks ( like edgy ) [10:03] not that its a bad thing, i already have a few uploads ready heh === dous [n=dous@ubuntu/member/dous] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1162.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:06] good morning [10:08] hey dholbach [10:08] hey Sarah === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:09] :) [10:12] sh === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:13] heya dholbach [10:13] hiya imbrandon [10:16] anjuta needs a rebuild for the vte transition [10:16] lifeless: edgy-updates [10:16] lifeless: aren't you a MOTU now too? :-) [10:16] yup [10:16] also grip [10:16] yoohoo :) [10:17] :) [10:18] great, got another friend who'll get involved with development :) [10:18] ajmitch: sweet [10:19] ajmitch, nice [10:20] morning ajmitch , lifeless === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Cale [n=cale@CPE004854805910-CM000e5cdd834a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:22] Does anyone know whether a (potentially experimental) Ubuntu edgy package exists for Reiser 4 filesystem support? [10:23] reiser4progs exists, even in Dapper. === Gervystar [n=alessand@host52-173-static.120-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kallewoof [n=zwoc@sundbyberg4.15.cust.blixtvik.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kallewoof [n=zwoc@sundbyberg4.15.cust.blixtvik.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === joejaxx [n=joejaxx@ubuntu/member/joejaxx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feaff900-158.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpon [n=jpon@82.239.80.181] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-52-192.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon yawns === Fujitsu :Os at imbrandon [10:55] heya Fujitsu [10:55] Hey imbrandon [10:56] StevenK: yes, that's not a kernel module though, is it? === snowblink [n=snowblin@wind.snowblink.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:00] those are simply the userspace utils. === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JonathanFerguson [n=Jonathan@186.108.240.220.dynamic.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === joejaxx [i=jadaz87@ubuntu/member/joejaxx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rytmisk [n=irc@155.143.134.168] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:07] hmm, what the... Where is the source for the kernel in edgy? All I'm seeing packages for here is 2.4 kernels. [11:07] linux-source-2.6.17 [11:07] apt-get source linux-image-`uname -r` === armeida [n=armeida^@213.144.15.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:08] aha [11:08] thanks === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JonathanFerguson [n=Jonathan@186.108.240.220.dynamic.dsl.comindico.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:16] Why gnome-desktop pacakge and some other pacakges are not available under universe section [11:17] why would it need to be? [11:18] (gnome-desktop is a source package in main) [11:19] crimsun, I am working on building a distro ... I want to create a repo same as ubuntu... [11:19] crimsun, So Iam bit confused ..How do I select which packages to be put under main seciton , and which under universe section [11:20] crimsun, I found some packages are present in both main adn universe for eg: abiword [11:20] crimsun, But some are present only in main like "gnome-desktop" [11:21] Chandy: err, abiword (both src and bin) are in main. [11:22] Chandy: the component is repo-side with overrides [11:22] crimsun, I didnt get ..What is this repo-side with overrides === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:24] Chandy: the archive admins maintain override lists that determine into which component(s) a source package (and its binaries) fall. [11:24] crimsun, What are these overrides ..can I get an example [11:25] I do not have access to them (afaik they're not public-facing) === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon25315.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:25] crimsun, Can the same source and binaries be in both main and universe [11:25] there are docs about overrides files [11:25] minghua, Where do I get [11:26] crimsun, then how can I maintain overrides [11:26] cf. aforementioned docs [11:26] granted I'm unaware what has been adjusted for soyuz (if anything) [11:27] I think dpkg-scanpackages(1) man page discusses it [11:27] Hey guys, these people apparently have a packaging issue with courier-authdaemon and try as they might they can't get it installed properly on upgrade to edgy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1670359 === dous [n=dous@ubuntu/member/dous] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:27] can someone help them out? [11:27] minghua, ok [11:27] Hm, another forum-as-bugtracker incident? [11:28] Or it is legitimate discussion? [11:28] Fujitsu, most likely [11:28] minghua, Do U know How to create packages file for different releases [11:28] looks like just a dpkg installation issue, cause I can install the package fine [11:28] Fujitsu, hey ..What happened your interview [11:28] Chandy: Went well :) [11:28] Fujitsu, thats good [11:29] Fujitsu, What are you doing now [11:29] Chandy: looking at that forum link :P [11:29] rmjb: Not much use without knowing what version of stuff they've got.. [11:29] Fujitsu, hey I didnt mean that ..I meant R U a student or working [11:29] Chandy: A student. [11:30] Fujitsu, thats great [11:30] Fujitsu, Are u a MOTU [11:30] Chandy: yup. [11:30] Fujitsu: oh... things like that will prevent them from uninstalling also? [11:31] rmjb: No. But knowing what version of the package they have will allow us to better confirm/deny it. [11:31] Fujitsu, I am a Debian , Ubuntu user and working on building a distro .. How do I become a Ubuntu developer [11:32] rmjb: bug 64615 [11:32] Malone bug 64615 in courier-authlib "apt-get broken after upgrade to edgy eft (courier-authdaemon package)" [High,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64615 [11:32] Fujitsu, crimsun was telling about maintaining overrides ..Do U have any idea abt taht [11:32] Chandy: you must exhibit that you have sufficient skills and experience in the field of packaging, then become an Ubuntu Member, then a developer. [11:32] Chandy: I have no idea, there might be some documentation on the Debian site. [11:32] Fujitsu, How do I do that [11:33] Fujitsu, ok [11:34] (there will be no Ubuntu-specific documentation, as anything that's different is proprietary, so documentation of it is of little interest to people who aren't Launchpad developers. [11:34] *) [11:34] thanks crimsun, I'll refer the thread to that bug... === elmargol [n=elmargol@host4-61.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B0B88.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:37] Chandy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Hopeful/Recruitment [11:37] I'm trying to work on becoming one too... haven't reached very far [11:38] Hi dholbach, you responded to my UVFe for dmraid, said it needed to go to SRU, do I need to add anything else to the bug report or reassign it? It wasn't clear on the SRU page since that seemed like the process for main [11:39] rmjb: we don't have the process worked out yet [11:39] Oh and Chandy this might help as you go through the process: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Acronyms [11:39] dholbach: Hmm... It's post release... [11:39] rmjb: however it would help to talk to sfllaw and/or get people testing the new dmraid [11:40] I've got a SRU that a lot of people are waiting for. === Fujitsu hints. [11:40] eh, I've got an SRU that people complained bitterly about and then proceeded to do NOTHING when the fix was made available in -proposed. [11:40] I love wasting my time. [11:41] So I should direct sfllaw to the bug? [11:41] I felt validated at the last bug comment for dmraid, someone said it worked beautifully on edgy :) === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:49] rmjb, thatnk you [11:49] rmjb, thank you [11:50] np [11:50] g'day all === freacky22527 [n=freacky2@gov91-1-82-234-91-6.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-145-13.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-102-19.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-102-19.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:03] Any command to create overrride file [12:04] crimsun, I got the suntax of override file "Package Priority Section" [12:04] crimsun, But How to specify the version of the pacakge to be taken into that release === JonathanFerguson [n=Jonathan@186.108.240.220.dynamic.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:45] override.breezy.universe.. is this type of oerrides files manually created [12:46] Fujitsu, Do U have nay idea How to create this file override.breezy.universe.. Is this created manually === JonathanFerguson [n=Jonathan@186.108.240.220.dynamic.dsl.comindico.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-52-192.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:48] Chandy: No. Why are you dealing with Breezy? [12:53] Fujitsu, No , I just want to know How to carete overrides file and whats the use of that [12:53] create overrides file [12:54] Chandy: None of us here are archive administrators, so it is likely that nobody here knows. === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:54] Fujitsu, Then in which channel I can get taht info [12:55] Chandy: None I know of. [12:55] Fujitsu, ok [12:56] what steps should I follow to get a debian package suitable for ubuntu? [12:57] Chandy: The format of the override file is a number of lines of form: [12:57] package priority section [12:57] luisbg: In most cases nothing [12:58] Fujitsu, ok, let me try === elmargol [n=elmargol@host4-61.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] luisbg: Although using a binary package is very inadvisable, it'd be advisable to rebuild it from the source package. [01:00] Fujitsu, that's what I'm going to try to do, if I have any problem I'll tell [01:00] luisbg: OK :) [01:00] =) thanks [01:05] Fujitsu, let's see if the dependencies match [01:05] luisbg: It's unlikely, but possible. [01:06] Fujitsu, LOL [01:06] usually is just matching up version numbers to the ubuntu ones? or is it more complex? [01:08] It shouldn't need any manual modification. [01:09] don't understand [01:09] shouldn't I modify the debian/control? === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] Most packages have shlibs:Depends in the dependency field, which means it automatically calculates the necessary dependencies. [01:10] So, no. [01:11] hmmm it seams it depends on a package not in ubuntu either... [01:14] gonna search for an easier to fix bug ;P [01:14] but will leave a comment of my discoveries in the bug report [01:15]