[12:38] <chaoticg33k> hello?
[12:39] <tmh___> LVM
[12:39] <chaoticg33k> huh?
[12:39] <tmh___> you can do flexible, easy partitioning with LVM and change it easily later
[12:40] <chaoticg33k> took a long time
[12:40] <chaoticg33k> ...
[12:40] <tmh___> comments like that aren't too polite.
[12:41] <tmh___> and someone already replied to you 5 hours ago
[12:41] <chaoticg33k> I'm sorry
[12:41] <tmh___> sparsely, I guess, but anyway. 
[12:41] <chaoticg33k> I was trying to joke, but it does not translate well into bits and bytes
[12:41] <tmh___> oh, ok :) http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[12:42] <chaoticg33k> I'm very sarcastic, but it does not end up well online.
[12:42] <chaoticg33k> thank you for the link
[12:43] <chaoticg33k> have you looked at any version of 6.10
[12:44] <tmh___> yes, Im using the release
[12:45] <chaoticg33k> I see the answer you were talking about now. Looks like a shorthand for something like lol
[12:45] <chaoticg33k> guess the ;) threw me off
[12:49] <chaoticg33k> another question if you don't mind, Is it easy to configure the network for a ubuntu server after the install, using a line from a windows box?
[12:50] <chaoticg33k> My setup is kinda weird I guess, I have two computers and I have my main windows box that has net, I'm getting another network card so I can pop it into one of the boxes and have a total of three so I can share the connection I have between the two
[12:51] <chaoticg33k> I live in a college dorm room with one network jack and we can not use routers or hubs, so I wanna have internet access for both, but I'm not very sure how easy that would be
[12:55] <chaoticg33k> any takers on my question?
[01:05] <PenguinistaKC> If you can't use routers or hubs, then your best bet is to get wireless cards for two of your machines and set the third one up as a gateway.
[01:06] <PenguinistaKC> Oops, you have two machines. Even easier.
[01:07] <PenguinistaKC> Set up one machine with two network cards. Eth0 connects to jack in wall, eth1 connects to computer 2 through a cross-over cable. Set up computer 1 as your gateway
[01:08] <PenguinistaKC> With windows, you use internet connection sharing. With linux, it's a little more work.
[02:26] <chaoticg33k> I want the work, I want to learn more, so doing alot of work is no problem for me.
[02:54] <chaoticg33k> umm... k well I installed the lamp server software package in 6.10, I skipped the DNS stuff. I bet I can get that all installed later if I need it. I'm not postive on what I want to do if I want the linux box to share the connection or the windows box. If I do the windows box then I will be able to get help as I go along if I need it, however if I do the linux box I have to know what I am doing before hand seems how I will not have n
[02:56] <chaoticg33k> Ok, well I got an error when I tried to install the lamp server package, so it told me to reselect it and try agian, so I selected the DNS too.
[02:56] <chaoticg33k> Ok, it gave me "Instlation step failed" again... and I had both of the packages selected this time
[02:59] <chaoticg33k> ok, so far so good with no packages selected
[03:04] <chaoticg33k> k well it is installed now but no predefined packages... I guess I'm gonna have to do that all manualy
[06:44] <chaoticg33k> hi
[07:43] <Joespower> hi, am I in the right place? I have a ubuntu server specific problem but I've never used IRC b4
[10:51] <gioele> hello
[10:51] <gioele> Is there going to be something like "edgy server" distribution?
[10:55] <infinity> gioele: The server ISOs are right next to the regular ISOs on the dowload site.
[10:55] <infinity> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[10:55] <infinity> ubuntu-6.10-server-*
[10:55] <gioele> ah, ok
[10:56] <gioele> because the site is not very clear. It is half updated and it seems that the server edition is going to stick with 6.06 LTS
[10:57] <infinity> Well, it's encouraged that server users stick with 6.06 anyway.
[10:57] <infinity> Most server users would prefer stability and 5 years of support over a few new packages, generally. :)
[11:07] <gioele> well, not if you are running an ejabberd server ;)
[03:21] <mpathy> Hi there.. I asked yesterday if it would be a bad idea to use edgy for my server.. But today I recognized that I perhaps HAVE TO use edgy because there is Postfix 2.3 in it, and from this version I got support for the Dovecot-SASL: http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#server_dovecot
[03:22] <mpathy> Or is it really a idea who is REALLY bad? :)
[03:22] <mpathy> Tell me about the quality level of the server-specific issues @ edgy :)
[05:21] <mpathy> Hi there! I need to switch to Edgy for recent versions of Postfix and Dovecot.. Are there some serious objections against doing that?
[05:21] <mpathy> (on a server)
[05:22] <infinity> I'm not doing it on my machines, but the choice is, obviously, yours.
[05:24] <mpathy> infinity: Sure. But are there serious points against doing that?
[05:25] <infinity> 5 years' support on dapper, versus 18 months on edgy.
[05:25] <infinity> Lots of testing and stability fixes in dapper, a more rushed release with edgy.
[05:26] <infinity> And the fact that I, personally, put several man-weeks into dapper's server release, and barely touched it for edgy, cause we had other goals. :)
[05:27] <infinity> But I don't think it should have any *problems*, per se, I just wouldn't go out of my way to recommend it over dapper either.
[05:27] <Pych0n> Hi
[05:27] <Pych0n> I almosty finished to install the Ubuntu 6.06.1 on a Dell PowerEdge
[05:28] <mpathy> infinity: Hmm, okay. Its clear that I use Feisty, the next LTR in april! I think I will go, until then, with Edgy
[05:28] <Pych0n> Now im configuring the NICs with support for VLANs (+20 VLANS)
[05:28] <Pych0n> but when the machine starts it takes to much time to setuo the network
[05:29] <Pych0n> Almost +5 minutes
[05:29] <mpathy> 5 years? That means in a few years you have to do support for really much releases..?
[05:29] <Pych0n> hi
[05:30] <infinity> mpathy: I doubt feisty will be an LTS.
[05:30] <infinity> mpathy: The next one after feisty might be.
[05:30] <mpathy> infinity: Really? But as I remember Mark said every second release will be one
[05:31] <infinity> He said no such thing.
[05:31] <mpathy> infinity: Hmm okay.. And there is no possibility that Postfix 2.3 gets somehow in dapper-backports?
[05:32] <infinity> A tentative plan was every third or fourth (dapper was our fourth), but we've committed to nothing.
[05:32] <infinity> mpathy: You could file a bug requestin a backport, sure.  If it compiles cleanly on dapper.
[05:32] <mpathy> infinity: Wher would be the right place to do that?
[05:33] <infinity> The build-deps make it look like it should build on dapper.
[05:34] <infinity> https://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+bugs
[05:34] <infinity> Looks like it's already filed.
[05:34] <infinity> https://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+bug/55599
[05:35] <infinity> So, follow up to thet bug and give a rationale, if you'd like.
[05:35] <infinity> s/thet/that/
[05:35] <Pych0n> infinity: hi
[05:35] <Pych0n> infinity: would you like to help me ?
[05:35] <infinity> The backports team will vet the report, see if it compiles cleanly, etc, then pass it off to the archive team (me and a few others), and we'll process it.
[05:35] <infinity> Pych0n: This isn't really a support channel.
[05:36] <infinity> Pych0n: That, and I don't do VLANs in Linux, I tend to use real routing and switching equipment, so I might not be very helpful.
[05:36] <Pych0n> infinity: ok, where is the support channel please ?
[05:36] <infinity> #ubuntu
[05:36] <infinity> There is no server-specific support channel that I know of.
[05:37] <infinity> If I had to guess, though, it's possible you're being bitten by something in /etc/network/if-up.d/ being run (and failing or timing out) for every single one of your 20 VLANs coming up.
[06:03] <mpathy> infinity: Posted it.. Lets hope ;)
[07:10] <porkpie> hi guy's I am trying to do a echo "bnx2" >> /etc/mkinitramfs/module on the latest realease but I get cannot create  blalalal  directory nonoexistent   what has replaced this 
[08:44] <jbrouhard> anyone try putting this out?
[08:44] <jbrouhard> http://directory.fedora.redhat.com/wiki/Howto:DebianUbuntu#Fedora_DS_on_Ubuntu.2FDebian_Howto
[08:58] <Jeeves__> Is anyone able to help on a problem with ddclient? 
[09:53] <Jeeves___> Does anyone have the ddclient program running?
[10:07] <tmh__> just ask?
[10:09] <tmh__> porkpie: I think the default is now 'initramfs-tools', apt-cache show initramfs-tools
[11:06] <Jeeves___> is anyone able to help me configure logwatch, their website seams to be down? 
[11:55] <chaoticg33k> ...
[11:55] <chaoticg33k> hi?