[12:01] <sotos> can anyone help me?
[12:01] <chuckyp> !wifi > Nox_ville
[12:01] <rwscold> !wifi
[12:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:01] <Tokenbad> eyequeue, I installed with apt-get....the dpkg would work with it even though was done with apt-get?
[12:01] <chuckyp> !ask | sotos
[12:01] <ubotu> sotos: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:01] <eyequeue> Tokenbad, correct
[12:01] <Mirro> hey
[12:01] <Mirro> i installed glx and compiy
[12:01] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, yes but you can just apt-get remove --purge nameoffnpackage
[12:02] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, that will get rid of configs
[12:02] <Tokenbad> eyequeue, so I would use the package name when use dpkg --purge?
[12:02] <eyequeue> Mirro, #ubuntu-xgl
[12:02] <eyequeue> !compiz
[12:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:02] <Tokenbad> chuckyp, that command isn't working though
[12:02] <eyequeue> Tokenbad, correct again :)
[12:02] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, what is the name of the package?
[12:03] <Nox_ville> i think ive got a problem with my laptop (Dapper) ... whenever i run an adminstrative task (Synaptic, configuring anything.. ) the window doesn't load but is shown on the bottom window bar.
[12:03] <tazman> how to install downloads
[12:03] <Tokenbad> chuckyp, vmware-player
[12:03] <npodges> tazman, like what doewnloads?
[12:03] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, okay try sudo apt-get remove --purge vmware-player  what is the output?
[12:03] <jhasse> I want to develop with wxwidgets. Which packets do i have to install? I have already installed everything with wx and 2.6
[12:03] <eugman> Is there any reason trying to upgrade might be disconnecting my laptop from the internet?
[12:03] <eyequeue> Tokenbad, sudo dpkg --purge vmware-player, then
[12:03] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, if that doesn't work do sudo apt-get --purge vmware-player  because I could have sworn you don't need the remove flag
[12:04] <eyequeue> Tokenbad, no reason to "get" the package, lol
[12:04] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, if neither of those work then you could sudo aptitude purge vmware-player  I know that will work.
[12:04] <Nox_ville> !bluetooth
[12:04] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:04] <NeoThermic> grr
[12:04] <NeoThermic> the update to 6.10 is failing :S
[12:04] <Mirro> but it doesnt start with compiz-start....
[12:04] <chuckyp> !install > tazman
[12:06] <Tokenbad> something still there...cause it still will not let me install vmware-server...cause it still says vmware software installed
[12:06] <Sgeo> Too late to go back now I guess..
[12:06] <Yoques> Hola... se que sois muchos, as que saludos
[12:06] <Sgeo> Why is it stuck on "Fetching file 18 of 20"?
[12:06] <erUSUL> !es
[12:06] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:06] <tazman> open download to install  .rpm
[12:06] <Nox_ville> i think ive got a problem with my laptop (Dapper) ... whenever i run an adminstrative task (Synaptic, configuring anything.. ) the window doesn't load but is shown on the bottom window bar.
[12:06] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, if you are using the purge switch nothing is still there.  It removes configs and everything.
[12:07] <Yoques> Gracias :D
[12:07] <NeoThermic> my internet is so slow the update tool says: "Downloading file 2 of 2 with unknown speed"
[12:07] <Mirro> compiz-start says there is no such command. what should i do_ i just installed it....
[12:07] <Nox_ville> how can i fix this
[12:07] <chuckyp> Mirro, /j #ubuntu-xgl
[12:07] <Mirro> chukyp, noone is there
[12:09] <Sgeo> "About 1 minutes remaining"
[12:09] <tazman> help with .bin .gs rpm files
[12:09] <Nox_ville> WTF is my problem ppl? Every administrative task i try run does not open, even tho its shown on the bottom window bar
[12:10] <jeeves_Moss> all:  has any one updated to the newest release?
[12:10] <Stormx2> YAY edgy :)
[12:10] <dr`venom> hey guys is there an ubuntu version optomized for laptops? I would really like to be able to undervolt as I am able to do with xp.
[12:10] <jeeves_Moss> *:  is there an easy way to do it?  or is it still unstable?
[12:10] <axisys> my upgrade went pretty smooth with that just command
[12:10] <Sgeo> Un... unstable?
[12:10] <Sgeo> You mean my computer might be unusable?
[12:10] <J_K9> Quick question - anyone know why the Ubuntu updates have broken Compiz/XGL? I no longer get a bar at the top of each window (the minimize, maximise, close bar - all of it)
[12:11] <Sgeo> Ohshiohshiohshi
[12:11] <Stormx2> Sgeo: Hmm?
[12:11] <Tokenbad> chuckyp something has to be there that is causing the vmware-server not to install
[12:11] <jeeves_Moss> Sgeo: have you upgraded?
[12:11] <J_K9> dr`venom - no, but there is xubuntu ;)
[12:11] <Nox_ville> chuckp: can u help me?
[12:11] <axisys> J_K9: edgy don't support compiz.. uneed beryl
[12:11] <dr`venom> xubunbu is better for laptops than ubuntu?
[12:11] <Stormx2> My dapper --> edgy upgrade went perfect, which is a first. My hoary --> breezy and breezy --> dapper upgrades killed it ;-)
[12:12] <fluvvell> dr`venom, I have ubuntu dapper running fine on a centrino hp 6120 laptop
[12:12] <jeeves_Moss> Stormx2:  well, what is the command line syntax to upgrade?
[12:12] <axisys> Stormx2: yep.. this last one they did a great job
[12:12] <rwscold> i am worried about upgrading cause i use ati
[12:12] <dr`venom> fluvvell have you tried edgy on it?
[12:12] <Stormx2> jeeves_Moss: I used the upgrade tool, but I'm sure it is just a frontend for the command line stuff.
[12:12] <Nox_ville> CAN any1 please help me....
[12:12] <jeeves_Moss> rwscold:  I'm running a Nvida card here.
[12:12] <rwscold> nox whats wrong
[12:12] <dr`venom> or do you plan on waiting a bit before doing so?
[12:13] <Rage1248> Hi, I'm trying dapper on my Toshiba A30 Satalite laptop. The touchpad doesn't work.  I have had this problem before, any clues?
[12:13] <jeeves_Moss> Stormx2:  where did you get it?  I don't want to loose the current install or settings that I've got
[12:13] <fluvvell> dr`venom, with the release having happened in the last 24 hours, I never consider it unless I'm on holiday!
[12:13] <rwscold> jeeves i know lots of ppl seem  to be experienceing problems with ati drivers and edgy
[12:13] <J_K9> axisys - I'm still on Dapper.. and I've only just realised that Edgy came out today :/
[12:13] <J_K9> Why didn't anyone tell me! :P
[12:13] <dr`venom> lol
[12:13] <J_K9> lol
[12:13] <eetfunk> whats the mysql-dev package name?  i cant find it in apt-cache search
[12:13] <dr`venom> cool
[12:13] <axisys> J_K9: #ubuntu-xgl
[12:13] <J_K9> will do
[12:13] <Stormx2> jeeves_Moss: Check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades. Its the first piece of code listed.
[12:13] <fluvvell> dr`venom, Dapper is considered LTS, and I'm using these in business
[12:13] <J_K9> It's odd that the Dapper updates broke it though..
[12:13] <W_McL> just upgraded to edgy and i'm impressed how fine aiglx works out of the box
[12:13] <tazman> help with getting downloads on ubuntu
[12:13] <wiseelben> Hi, I have two SATA drives and it seems like that gparted can't read them. Well gparted just hangs on the scanning all drivers part... anny suggestions?
[12:14] <dr`venom> I will be using it at home
[12:14] <jeeves_Moss> rwscold:  humm, I hope it keeps my Athoes card running
[12:14] <dr`venom> but i'm no expert
[12:14] <user-land> is there a good unit conversion utility ?
[12:14] <ltR^> Hello
[12:14] <NeoThermic> my tubes are full!
[12:14] <dr`venom> I've only been using linux for about 2 months
[12:14] <ltR^> how do i install the nvidia beta drivers???
[12:14] <jeeves_Moss> Stormx2:  thanks, I'll have a look
[12:14] <dr`venom> still not able to go of windows
[12:14] <axisys> W_McL: yep
[12:14] <Blacken> NeoThermic: You fool, they're dump trucks!
[12:14] <fluvvell> dr`venom, and if you have the time to play around with it thats cool too.
[12:14] <Nox_ville> rwscold: 2 things.. #1 whenever i open an administrative window (2 configure something (such as networking) ) the window doesn't load... but the little bar at the bottom appears.. then disappears..
[12:14] <NeoThermic> Blacken: yes, but the dumptrucks have filled my tubes!
[12:14] <colin__> I just installed Edgy...is the boot screen supposed to be grayscale?
[12:14] <Blacken> NeoThermic: That's kind of weird...
[12:14] <NeoThermic> ok, this has failed again
[12:15] <dr`venom> will aiglx run ok on a dothan 1.6 with intel 855gm?
[12:15] <fluvvell> dr`venom, I'll probably start on one of the kids pcs in one of the next few weekends, say if its raining! (less to do outside)
[12:15] <kirukera> ver irc.webpool.de
[12:15] <MutantX> i've got a toshiba laptop with a --Phoenix Bios-- ... I've googled for weeks. and tried everything i can think of.  how do i enable suspend, resume support?
[12:15] <MattJ> rwscold, I'm having a great time with the ATI drivers on Edgy. Under Dapper every trick in the book couldn't get OGL/DRI to work
[12:15] <user-land> what is the best calculator ?
[12:15] <dr`venom> so, I guess I will start off with dapper
[12:15] <dr`venom> I tried suse but it feels too slow
[12:15] <Blacken> MattJ: Like hell. The ATI drivers worked easy on Dapper. How'd you make them work on Edgy?
[12:15] <fluvvell> dr`venom, you have a dothan ?
[12:15] <grndslm_> anybody know of a general programming channel on IRC??
[12:15] <NeoThermic> "Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubunti/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returns an error code (2)"
[12:15] <dr`venom> yea,
[12:15] <finalbeta> !backup
[12:15] <MattJ> Blacken, no trouble at all :)
[12:15] <dr`venom> on my laptop
[12:15] <NeoThermic> any ideas?
[12:15] <Blacken> MattJ: What'd you do?
[12:15] <dr`venom> so I undervold
[12:16] <Tokenbad> ok got vmware-server installing now...had to remove the /etc/vmware dir
[12:16] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[12:16] <Mirro> will someone help me with Compiz plz??
[12:16] <MattJ> dr`venom, you want speed? Have you tried Xubuntu?
[12:16] <dr`venom> nope
[12:16] <W_McL> axisys: had compiz already installed on dapper but it only worked with xgl and the proprietary video card drivers... after the update with other changes in my xorg.conf than replacing the proprietary by the free driver
[12:16] <dr`venom> never
[12:16] <MattJ> Blacken, installed from the reps
[12:16] <Blacken> MattJ: Speed and Xubuntu don't go together...
[12:16] <dr`venom> is there a huge difference
[12:16] <MattJ> Blacken, how come?
[12:16] <finalbeta> How do I backup my whole ubuntu installation? everything is set up on one partition. My HD is dieing.
[12:16] <MERLiiN> that's a secret
[12:16] <Blacken> MattJ: xfce is "special".
[12:16] <Blacken> MattJ: You installed fglrx-control and xorg-driver-fglrx, and you got DRI?
[12:16] <fluvvell> dr`venom, so my centrino adjusts cpu speed happily anyway, and shows clock speed on the top line in an applet.
[12:16] <colin__> I have a quick question: How do I change the login (not usplash) screen from Xubuntu to Ubuntu?
[12:16] <MattJ> Just xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:16] <dr`venom> I heard ubuntu was faster than suse without depriving me of all the new linux software
[12:17] <MattJ> Then a reboot
[12:17] <MattJ> Under Dapper that left me still with Mesa for OGL
[12:17] <wiseelben> Hi, I have two SATA drives (already partitioned w/ NTFS and FAT32) and it seems like that gparted can't read them. Well gparted just hangs on the scanning all drivers part... anny suggestions?
[12:17] <MattJ> On Edgy it's now the ATI card
[12:17] <dr`venom> yea, my centrino does that too, but I have it running at 980v at 1.7 clock
[12:17] <fuffalo> how do you stop ubuntu from automatically updating itself
[12:17] <Nox_ville> rwscold ....
[12:17] <dr`venom> as appose to 1.3v
[12:17] <Blacken> However, the ATI installer doesn't work with -generic kernels.
[12:17] <Nox_ville> rwscold: 2 things.. #1 whenever i open an administrative window (2 configure something (such as networking) ) the window doesn't load... but the little bar at the bottom appears.. then disappears..
[12:18] <Rage1248> Hi, I'm trying dapper on my Toshiba A30 Satalite laptop. The touchpad doesn't work.  I have had this problem before, any clues? Please help, even an RTFM and URL would be good... :)
[12:18] <dr`venom> that undervolt gives me an extra 30 minutes of battery and no anoying fan :)
[12:18] <rwscold> Nox in dapper? or in Edgy?
[12:18] <Blacken> What...the...hey...
[12:18] <Mirro> !gxl
[12:18] <Mirro> !xgl
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gxl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <Blacken> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:18] <fluvvell> dr`venom, you're running suse ?
[12:18] <NeoThermic> "Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubunti/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returns an error code (2)" any idea? :P
[12:19] <ubuntu> hi
[12:19] <dr`venom> suse at home, I tried it on my laptop, but it got slower with xgl
[12:19] <dr`venom> lol
[12:19] <sledge_at_work> ubuntu: hi
[12:19] <Nox_ville> rwscold: dapper (NEW install too)
[12:19] <jeeves_Moss> Stormx2:  it looks like the update servers are flooded.  This is taking for EVER!!
[12:19] <dr`venom> xgl works but a bit slow
[12:19] <grndslm_> there are too many people here
[12:19] <fluvvell> dr`venom, what graphics architecture ?
[12:19] <dr`venom> yea, suse has been my main os at home
[12:19] <Stormx2> jeeves_Moss: Hah! Nevermind ;)
[12:19] <Zobo> hey
[12:19] <finalbeta> How do I back up my /root partition? Can I put it to an image?
[12:19] <J_K9> So what's all this about beryl? Is it another WM (to replace Compiz), or something completely different? Meh, I'll look it up ;)
[12:19] <rwscold> NOX so after it prompts u to enter your password the screen doesnt come up?
[12:19] <dr`venom> at home i have a fx52 vidia and my laptop has a 855gm
[12:19] <jeeves_Moss> Stormx2:  we're running a blazing 20K/sec here
[12:19] <Stormx2> jeeves_Moss: I did it yesterday to beat the rush. But remember, its got to download ~600mb
[12:19] <finalbeta> Please, HD is dieing :p. Crach every x minutes
[12:20] <dr`venom> I heard aigxl would work better on my laptop
[12:20] <J_K9> finalbeta: dd if=/root of=root.iso
[12:20] <jeeves_Moss> Stormx2: I jsut hope it fits on this drive
[12:20] <Nox_ville> rwscold: no.. it doens't even ask for a passwd.. just attempts to load... then crashes (doens't load)
[12:20] <dr`venom> believe it or not, those little things make me more productive
[12:20] <Blacken> What's the package that installs DRI for X?
[12:21] <dr`venom> right now, windows seems to work the best on my laptop. Then again, I have only compared it to suse and pclinuxos
[12:21] <rwscold> Nox I have never experienced that  I would say check with the forums but I would probably just make sure the disk was good and re install
[12:21] <dr`venom> I am not saying that I prefer windows
[12:21] <dr`venom> thats, why I am here
[12:21] <finalbeta> J_K9, dd if=/ of=/media/hda/backup.iso would work? Would dd start backing up the files in the partitons mounted under /media?
[12:22] <Nox_ville> rwscold: k.. thats 1 problem down.. 1 to go...:
[12:22] <dr`venom> and why I have been procrastinating with school work, so that I can learn a bit more about linux and switch over
[12:22] <dr`venom> :)
[12:22] <rwscold> Nox sorry i couldnt be of more help
[12:22] <rixxon> !sound
[12:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:23] <dr`venom> besides, I know that windows is only running faster because I do not know how to settup linux
[12:23] <rwscold> Ehird in the house
[12:23] <ehird> *da
[12:23] <Nox_ville> k.. i need to set up a wireless network card and get it onto a network (aptly named nox-net).. please explain how.. the !wireless guide doesn't seeem to work
[12:23] <Tokenbad> hmm...vmware server is asking for a serial....where get the serial....I thought it was free
[12:23] <J_K9> finalbeta - yes.. the only problem with that is you're backing EVERYTHING up under /media, including, if I'm not mistaken, /media ;)
[12:23] <J_K9> Tokenbad - free as in beer, not speech. A serial is emailed to you IIRC
[12:24] <Nox_ville> rwscold: no worries
[12:24] <finalbeta> J_K9, damned :p. I need to backup the whole system, exept everything mounted under /media
[12:24] <mista> ok i have my system running nice now, i got xgl to run but in some programs it makes the hole thing transparnet? can i turn it of for each program i run?
[12:24] <rwscold> Nox is the card detected properly?
[12:24] <azureal> heh, i just realized that I had started a dist-upgrade on a day of busy servers ;)
[12:24] <eyequeue> mista, wrong channel, #ubuntu-xgl
[12:24] <Blacken> Gaaah...Xorg does not have the X DRI plug-in or whatever it needs, and it doesn't work correctly. For that matter, the ATI drivers just don't work either. What gives?
[12:24] <gnubie> cannot seem to find the w32codecs for edgy, but my wifi and 3d accel are doing well
[12:25] <Tokenbad> J_K9, well how...I assume I register to the site then?
[12:25] <Nox_ville> i don't know how to tell... (im more of a windows dude to be honest)
[12:25] <ehird> would python be a good thing to learn to make silly apps and games for ubuntu? it seems to be popular and easy :)
[12:25] <eyequeue> !seveas > gnubie
[12:25] <beergutxl> Can someone help please I can't remove courier-authdaemon
[12:25] <eyequeue> gnubie,  Filename: pool/edgy-seveas/extras/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[12:25] <rwscold> Nox what card is it?
[12:25] <azureal> silly apps and games? heh....python is so cool though..
[12:25] <J_K9> Tokenbad - yes
[12:25] <gnubie> eyequeue: thanks
[12:25] <eyequeue> gnubie,  no prob
[12:26] <Nox_ville> its a standard hp card on a hp compaq nw8000 laptop...
[12:26] <Nox_ville> @rwscold
[12:26] <J_K9> finalbeta - there may be an --exlude option... I can't remember
[12:26] <ehird> what's a good torrent to gape at the speeds? ;)
[12:26] <dr`venom> so guys, for speed: ubuntu or xubuntu?
[12:26] <J_K9> xubuntu
[12:26] <Nox_ville> !xubuntu
[12:26] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:27] <ehird> i'll try an oo.o torrents
[12:27] <ehird> hear those things are swarming with seeds
[12:27] <Nox_ville> rsword: its a standard hp card on a hp compaq nw8000 laptop...
[12:27] <Blacken> Has anyone gotten their virtual ttys working with Edgy?
[12:27] <jeeves_Moss> Stormx2:  did you have an issue when you used the update manager?  I keep getting "update-manager: error: no such option: -c"
[12:28] <alfons> hi allemaal
[12:28] <jeeves_Moss> all:  has any one had an issue upgrading with the update manager?
[12:28] <Stormx2> jeeves_Moss: Yeah, I did. Try put a double -
[12:28] <Stormx2> jeeves_Moss: so --
[12:28] <Tokenbad> J_K9, I don't even see a link to get a serial for vmware-server
[12:29] <ehird> on the contrary
[12:29] <jeeves_Moss> Stormx2:  was that a dubble -- inside the ""?
[12:29] <ehird> torrents are slower than in windows
[12:29] <J_K9> tokenbad - 'download' it off their site.. That'll get you a serial
[12:29] <rwscold> Nox check in system > administration  networking see if it sees your wireless card
[12:30] <Stormx2> jeeves_Moss: Hold on.
[12:30] <dassmario> Can anyone tell me how to get the resolution higher than 1280x1024? I've got intel915 and a display that does 1680x1050 native
[12:30] <Tokenbad> J_K9, I already downloaded it...how you think I got to where its asking for a serial....
[12:30] <rwscold> ehird torrents work great in ubunutu for me
[12:30] <jeeves_Moss> Stormx2:  ok, thanks.  I'm @ work right now on break, so I can leave it plugged in and running in the back while I'm working.
[12:30] <JosefK> !915resolution > dassmario
[12:30] <Tokenbad> J_K9, that is why trying to find the serial
[12:30] <cin> !915resolution > cin
[12:30] <ehird> any way to change port with ubuntu's basic bittorrent client?
[12:30] <Nox_ville> rwscold: it says the wireless interface ath0 is active
[12:30] <Stormx2> jeeves_Moss: It should be right
[12:31] <Stormx2> jeeves_Moss: Are you up to date with all your packages?
[12:31] <vzoric> hi, i wanna ask something if someone can help me, I have a problem with my pc, i turned off my pc and it didnt want to start again, i pulled off the cable from cdroms and now it works but if i put cables back it wont work
[12:31] <cryptonic> can anyone help me out with an error im getting when trying to update ubuntu, :
[12:31] <cryptonic> E: Malformed line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[12:31] <cryptonic> E: Malformed line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/edgy-universe.list (dist parse)
[12:31] <cryptonic> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:31] <J_K9> Tokenbad - You may have downloaded the installer from somewhere else... I can't read your mind. ;) Download again and use your proper email address
[12:31] <rwscold> ehird dont use it lol use azureus or something with more power
[12:31] <vzoric>  anyone knows why?
[12:31] <jeeves_Moss> stormx2:  so, it's sudo gksu "update-manager --c"?
[12:31] <ehird> rwscold: i like its simplicity
[12:31] <matsur> ok solved my previous problems but now my mouse is all screwy. the scroll wheel goes back/forward and the back/for buttons scroll how do i fix that?
[12:31] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[12:31] <krazykit> ehird: if you like simplicity, build Transmission or hunt for a deb
[12:31] <jeeves_Moss> stormx2:  yes, I just did an update before I tried doing this
[12:32] <rwscold> Nox and u dont have the wireless card disabled from your laptop itself right
[12:32] <Acidic32> os[Linux 2.6.15-27-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+ @ 1.01GHz]  mem[Physical : 503MB, 71.2% free]  disk[Total : 49.50GB, 87.80% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] ]  sound[ICH - ALi M5455] 
[12:32] <Acidic32> sorry
[12:32] <Acidic32> my bad
[12:32] <Acidic32> :(
[12:32] <ehird> krazykit: i like this one :(
[12:32] <Blacken> yurgh. Why don't virtual TTYs work?
[12:32] <Stormx2> jeeves_Moss: Just try the apt-get method
[12:32] <Tokenbad> J_K9, when I downloaded from vmware it didn't ask for my email...or anything...
[12:32] <dassmario> Yea. I tried 915resolution and followed the steps at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy but the resolution in the system-preferences didnt change
[12:32] <Stormx2> jeeves_Moss: It is probably a bit more informative...
[12:32] <ehird> well what's the fastest torrent anyone here knows
[12:32] <dassmario> Do I need to reboot?
[12:32] <JosefK> hmm, is there any way to change the configuration for xine-totem?
[12:32] <rwscold> Nox ckick yoiur wirelexx card and then properties make suire the connection is enabled
[12:32] <ehird> on windows i can normally max out my connection (1Mbit/sec, 128Kilobyte/sec)
[12:33] <JosefK> I'm guessing it isn't using the best possible settings (does it read xine-ui's?)
[12:33] <Tokenbad> J_K9, and this is where I downloaded it from:  http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
[12:33] <Nox_ville> rwscold: no.. the blue button is on :)
[12:33] <NeoThermic> so anyone have any idea why I'm getting the error while attempting to update?
[12:33] <jeeves_Moss> stormx2:  I tried that, then it starts to complain about not having libc6-i686
[12:33] <rwscold> Nox click yoiur wireless card and then properties make sure the connection is enabled
[12:33] <cryptonic> can anyone help me out with an error im getting when trying to update ubuntu, :
[12:33] <dr`venom> so, i read a review on xubuntu, it looks kind of ugly in my opinion
[12:33] <J_K9> lol
[12:34] <J_K9> to each his own
[12:34] <dr`venom> exactly
[12:34] <Stork> argh
[12:34] <dr`venom> sorry, I need eye candy
[12:34] <dr`venom> it keeps me productive
[12:34] <Stork> just installed edgy now my sound doesn't work
[12:34] <Sgeo> Um..
[12:34] <dr`venom> will my centrino 1.6 be able to run ubuntu nicely?
[12:34] <rwscold> who needs sound!
[12:34] <chplanet> is there any support of Raid hardware for ubuntu dapper?
[12:34] <rixxon> 'The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:'... Do I really dare this autoremove stuff? It wants to remove gnome-keyring-manager etcetera
[12:34] <Sgeo> I restarted while it was fetching files..
[12:34] <J_K9> tokenbad - when you click the 'download now' button, there's a bright orange 'register' button on the following page...
[12:35] <jeeves_Moss> stormx2:  any ideas?
[12:35] <Sgeo> Did I completely end my computer's ability to upgrade
[12:35] <Tokenbad> J_K9,  it don't even give me that...it just downloads the file
[12:35] <Sgeo> How do I fix things?
[12:35] <dassmario> I've downloaded and installed 915resolution. What do I do next?
[12:35] <NeoThermic> "Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubunti/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returns an error code (2)" any idea? :P
[12:35] <rwscold> sqeo what did u do???
[12:35] <JoseStefan> Sgeo, can you boot?
[12:35] <ehird> question, i have the ubuntu edgy iso via http, could i seed it on the torrent using plain BitTorrent? :)
[12:35] <Sgeo> I did
[12:35] <JoseStefan> Sgeo, can you reach the CLI ?
[12:35] <Sgeo> I restarted while it was fetching files during the upgrade
[12:35] <Nox_ville> !bluez-utils
[12:35] <ubotu> bluez-utils: Bluetooth tools and daemons. In component main, is optional. Version 3.7-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 788 kB
[12:36] <J_K9> tokenbad - http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
[12:36] <Sgeo> JoseStefan, nothing was installed yet I think
[12:36] <cin> Jeez. Edgy already? Dapper seems like only yesterday, you guys sure like to move fast, huh?
[12:36] <rwscold> sgeo and whats the problem now
[12:36] <Stormx2> jeeves_Moss: Have you updated *all* your repos in your sources.list?
[12:36] <shira> anyone know why my edgy isn't reading my other SATA (already formatted w/ NTFS and FAT32) drives?
[12:36] <Sgeo> rwscold, I interrupted it when I shouldn't have..
[12:36] <JoseStefan> Sgeo, if was still downloading, and NOT installing, you should be ok
[12:36] <adam_swe> hi, i tried to install a LAMP server on my computer using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-b61e938a59a33a4e3a56552fa81a5ae0eec86651 . i am stuck when i try to make a root password for the mysql server. this is the error i get: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) . does anybody know what i can do? :S
[12:36] <Sgeo> And will upgrader work like normal?
[12:36] <rwscold> sgeo i probably will
[12:36] <HaroldJohnson> I've got my Mac booting three partitions: OS X on the first, OS 9, and then Ubuntu.  Anyone know how I may delete the Ubuntu partition so that I may use it as extra storage for my OS X files?
[12:37] <rwscold> if it doesnt when you get something running let us know :)
[12:37] <jeeves_Moss> Stormx2:  I think I did
[12:37] <Sgeo> And I think the process would have set a lock
[12:37] <Sgeo> How do I remove the lock?
[12:38] <triade> HaroldJohnson: shouldn't you be askimg that on a osX list?
[12:38] <jeeves_Moss> stormx2:  hummm, any other ideas?  it says there is an error when I try the update manager, and it seems to be hung up on libc6-i686
[12:38] <rwscold> thats what linux us all about total destructionage then crawling back out of the depths from that destructionage
[12:38] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Why do you say that?
[12:38] <rwscold> makes u  uber ubuntu genius
[12:39] <triade> HaroldJohnson: well we'd prefer you remove osX for extra Ubuntu space. ;-)
[12:39] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Yes, but I'm trying to recover the space I used to install Ubuntu.
[12:39] <HaroldJohnson> triade: I really like Ubuntu, but not on my circa-1999 Mac
[12:39] <rwscold> triad format partition
[12:39] <rwscold> ???
[12:39] <JoseStefan> HaroldJohnson, that would involve using the other OS's partitioning tools, and we dont know much about those
[12:40] <Stork> oh my fucking god
[12:40] <Stork> what the fuck
[12:40] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Doesn't run the greatest on this old Mac
[12:40] <slinky_> I want to install a second hard drive, where do I find information to accomplish this, i am new to linux
[12:40] <Stork> "%()" $W%()*"%(_!$(&%$"
[12:40] <Blacken> Well, we know someone's a brit.
[12:40] <rwscold> !gparted
[12:40] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[12:40] <Blacken> IRC without swearing. Amazing!
[12:40] <triade> HaroldJohnson: osX will have to reclaim it, linux can't (de)claim itself. no OS can.
[12:40] <HaroldJohnson> JoseStefan: Well, I'm not so sure about that.  I'm hoping I'll be able to find an open source program to delete the partition *which I created in Ubuntu*
[12:40] <adam_swe> hi, i tried to install a LAMP server on my computer using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-b61e938a59a33a4e3a56552fa81a5ae0eec86651 . i am stuck when i try to make a root password for the mysql server. this is the error i get: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) . does anybody know what i can do? :S
[12:40] <Blacken> HaroldJohnson: LiveCD, use gparted.
[12:41] <HaroldJohnson> Blacken: Thank you
[12:41] <Blacken> !paste | adam_swe
[12:41] <ubotu> adam_swe: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:41] <notwist> how do i run musicbrainz to fix my mp3 tags and filenames in ubuntu?
[12:41] <notwist> :/
[12:41] <rwscold> Nox I will assume you have found your solutioin
[12:41] <Davey> so, I just upgraded to Edgy an my RAID died
[12:41] <ProN00b> dist-upgrading looks so painfull
[12:41] <Davey> apparently the /dev/* stuff got updated
[12:41] <Davey> :/
[12:41] <slinky_> i created a ext3 partition but it is owned by root and i can't write to the disk
[12:42] <JoseStefan> ProN00b, update-manager should ease things
[12:42] <Blacken> slinky_: You should have a settings option of "disks"
[12:42] <Blacken> slinky_: Alternatively, edit /etc/fstab and change the drive's umask to 000
[12:42] <slinky_> blacken, yes
[12:42] <adam_swe> hi, i tried to install a LAMP server on my computer using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-b61e938a59a33a4e3a56552fa81a5ae0eec86651 . i am stuck when i try to make a root password for the mysql server. this is the error i get: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) . does anybody know what i can do? :S
[12:42] <HaroldJohnson> triade: See, I had reserved free space when I initially paritioned a couple of HFS (that's Mac) paritions, then installed the Mac OS's.  Lastly, I installed Ubuntu on the free space that was left.  i would think that I would be able to reverse theis operation.
[12:42] <meat`2> how do you set an app as the default player for dvds?
[12:42] <ProN00b> JoseStefan, i did that, but then decided against it because it wouldn't give me enough info
[12:42] <Blacken> !flood > adam_swe
[12:42] <mikuntu> hello, I'v connected a USB hard disk which it has NTFS. How can I make the file system readable?
[12:43] <ProN00b> JoseStefan, so i continued with apt-get dist-upgrade which gave me more info, is that bad ?
[12:43] <mikuntu> I mean writable
[12:43] <triade> HaroldJohnson: run "sudo cfdisk" and delete the ext3 and swap partitions. reboot and linux is gone. :-)
[12:43] <shira> anyone know why my edgy isn't reading my other SATA (already formatted w/ NTFS and FAT32) drives?
[12:43] <JoseStefan> ProN00b, could be, lets hope not
[12:43] <ehird> okay, first night with ubuntu running ;)
[12:43] <ehird> let's see if it crashes :O
[12:43] <sledge_at_work> cya folks!
[12:44] <egoleo> the right program for chm on linux is xchm
[12:44] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Thanks.  Now, where did you dig up that info?
[12:44] <nikin> hy
[12:44] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Appreciate it, by the way
[12:44] <nikin> did anyone try fluxbuntu?
[12:44] <triade> HaroldJohnson: that's standard *nix info, use and learn...y're welcome
[12:45] <HaroldJohnson> triade: This process will leave my other partitions (the Mac OS ones) unaltered?
[12:45] <slinky_> blacken, i am visually impaired and have trouble following channel can you add me to your msn?
[12:45] <Tokenbad> anyone here that uses windows in vmware that can answer some questions for me
[12:45] <Nox_ville> rsa|rew
[12:45] <Tokenbad> ?
[12:45] <Blacken> slinky_: I don't use MSN, but if you register with nickserv you can PM me.
[12:45] <triade> HaroldJohnson: yes, it'll leave "free space"where the other partitions were so mac can forma those.
[12:46] <slinky_> blacken, how do i register, i am new to this
[12:46] <triade> HaroldJohnson: sorry forma = format
[12:46] <Nox_ville> as
[12:46] <JoseStefan> !nickserv | slinky_
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickserv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <ProN00b> i have some "The following packages have been kept back:" entrys after upgrading to edgy, what do i do about them ?
[12:46] <klaxian> can i move from ubuntu to xubuntu just by installing xubuntu-desktop?
[12:46] <JoseStefan> !register | slinky_
[12:46] <ubotu> slinky_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:47] <adam_swe> hi, i am having trouble, i installed a LAMP server and i am stuck, when i am creating a root password for mysql it claims there is no "mysqld.sock". i am using this guide to help me https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP . i am stuck on part 9.2.
[12:47] <gnaunited> Quick Question: Command Line Webcam Capture?
[12:47] <slinky_> that you blacken
[12:47] <slinky_> thank you blacken
[12:47] <Blacken> slinky_: No problem.
[12:48] <ayaa> hello all
[12:48] <ProN00b> i have some "The following packages have been kept back:" entrys after upgrading to edgy, what do i do about them ?
[12:48] <Blacken> ProN00b: Can't do anything about them.
[12:48] <cryptonic> how do you access file browser in root?
[12:48] <deema> hello
[12:48] <ayaa> my ubuntu is starting up very verrry slow when my laptop is not connected to internet, in case there's a net connection, it starts normally
[12:48] <ayaa> what do you think the problem is ?
[12:49] <asymmetry> ayaa, it's trying to run DHCP during boot.
[12:49] <asymmetry> ayaa, if there's no connection, DHCP takes forever.
[12:49] <klaxian> ayaa: install network-manager and don't configure the network by hand
[12:49] <deema> my sound worked in Edgy live cd, but when I installed it, my sound no longer works! anybody have an idea?
[12:49] <adam_swe> cryptonic, sudo nautilus
[12:49] <cryptonic> thx
[12:49] <adam_swe> :)
[12:50] <deema> anybody?
[12:50] <ayaa> asymmetry, it's static interfaces ...
[12:50] <Tschaka> yay, after around 10 hours of upgrading, edgy runs finally, thx folks i am happy for now, going to bed now bye
[12:50] <ayaa> its going slow after gdm authentification
[12:50] <MalfermitaKodo> Hi
[12:50] <HaroldJohnson> triade: So, like gparted, would I have to run cfdisk from a LiveCD?  or could I run it right now, from the Terminal of my OS X system?
[12:50] <Tokenbad> please anyone who uses vmware server with ubuntu and windows that can answer some quick questions on the installing of windows since have vmware-server installed but need to know how to do the vm machine and install windows
[12:51] <ayaa> in other words, it goes slow after charging the rc2 scripts and not before, so dhcp stuff is passed
[12:51] <MalfermitaKodo> anyone here knows something about audio?
[12:51] <deema> my sound worked in Edgy live cd, but when I installed it, my sound no longer works! anybody have an idea?
[12:51] <JoseStefan> how do I empty a CDRW without downloading new stuff ?
[12:51] <user-land> deema, did you create a new /home ?
[12:51] <deema> what?
[12:52] <MalfermitaKodo> I need to know the device name, where sound is outputted to
[12:52] <ProN00b> how can i upgrade those kept back packages ?
[12:52] <triade> HaroldJohnson: I don't know if osX has "cfdisk" but ubuntu does. Boot into that and run it from there.
[12:52] <ayaa> anyone got an idea ?
[12:53] <deema> ...........................................
[12:53] <triade> HaroldJohnson: linux will gladly bite itself in the tail if you want it to. :-)
[12:53] <mikuntu> how to make NTFS is a USB disk drive writtable ?
[12:53] <HaroldJohnson> triade: But I wouldn't be able to boot the same partition I'm running from, right?
[12:53] <JoseStefan> nevermind :*
[12:53] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Oh, so it can
[12:53] <fabio_> what's the name of the tool similar to easyubuntu?
[12:53] <Riot777> I updated to Edgy, and I'm curious where "diskmanager" gone is it in some repositiories or something ?
[12:53] <fabio_> i less it on a site but now i don't remember name
[12:54] <HaroldJohnson> triade: So Linux can eat itself whole, like a snake cannot?
[12:54] <triade> HaroldJohnson: once the partitions are deleted you will not be able to boot into them again, yes.
[12:54] <deema> Automatix?
[12:54] <eugman> I updated today and I see the firefox icon is in use. I thought there were reasons preventing that?
[12:54] <Andrew67> HaroldJohnson: linux obeys, no matter how crazy a command
[12:54] <TigTigger> HaroldJohnson, you get all the rope you want with Linux! =)
[12:54] <LjL> !automatix > deema
[12:54] <cryptonic> any chance someone could sent me the folders and files in the /etc/apt folder as that is whats wrong with the update feature?
[12:54] <triade> HaroldJohnson: like a "live- CD " runs in ram.
[12:55] <HaroldJohnson> Blacken: Any advantage to using gparted over cfdisk?  You'll recall I'm trying to remove an Ubuntu partition so that I may reformat it for OS X
[12:55] <deema> LjL, eh??
[12:55] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Some strange anomalies, this Linux
[12:55] <JoseStefan> HaroldJohnson, GUI is prettier
[12:55] <fabio_> what's the name of the tool similar to easyubuntu?
[12:55] <ProN00b> is it normal that fonts change after installing edgy ?
[12:55] <HaroldJohnson> JoseStefan: GUI is prettier with what?  Ubuntu?
[12:55] <ProN00b> like the default terminal font ?
[12:56] <egon_spengler> fabio_: Automatix
[12:56] <JoseStefan> HaroldJohnson, vs text based tools
[12:56] <Tokenbad> please anyone who uses vmware server with ubuntu and windows that can answer some quick questions on the installing of windows since have vmware-server installed but need to know how to do the vm machine and install windows
[12:56] <HaroldJohnson> triade: I've been using Ubuntu for well over a year, and plan to continue doing so...just not on this old Mac
[12:56] <sid> Someone confirm a bug for me, if you left click and drag an icon in the gnome-panel to the right, and back to the left, does the icon lose all it's information?
[12:56] <Blacken> HaroldJohnson: I prefer gparted, it's just taste.
[12:56] <HaroldJohnson> JoseStefan: True.  Isn't that the main idea with GUI?
[12:56] <triade> HaroldJohnson: it's not anomalie, it's constructed that way. Hence linux live-CD's.
[12:56] <djm62> sid: what information?
[12:56] <Lo_Pan> lol?
[12:56] <ProN00b> is it normal that fonts change after i installed edgy ?
[12:56] <transgress_> so anyone care to help me figure out why xine will play dvd's but totem-xine will not?
[12:57] <sid> djm62: The icon color, name etc.
[12:57] <HaroldJohnson> JoseStefan: Or I guess it could be argued that the main idea behind GUI is ease-of-use.
[12:57] <JoseStefan> HaroldJohnson, gparted is gui, the other isnt
[12:57] <bimberi> sid: yes, that happens here
[12:57] <HaroldJohnson> Blacken: I appreciate your opinion.
[12:57] <Blacken> HaroldJohnson: NP.
[12:57] <sid> thanks bimberi
[12:57] <HaroldJohnson> JoseStefan: Ah, I see.
[12:57] <sid> I can't find a bug report for this on launchpad.net
[12:57] <MalfermitaKodo> where is the sound oututted to in alsa or OSS?
[12:57] <bdragonmsl> anyone in here have problems with a 7900 gt pci-e??
[12:58] <HaroldJohnson> Now you've all got me regretting the very idea of deleting Ubuntu from this system...
[12:58] <Blacken> Is it me, or is the new fstab really, really weird...?
[12:58] <cryptonic> any chance someone could sent me the folders and files in the /etc/apt folder as that is whats wrong with the update feature?
[12:58] <djm62> sid: that happens here!
[12:58] <Lapsus> Hello! I can't seem to get the dapper livecd to boot into X. It just dumps me to the console after telling me that it's "Failed to start the X server" any ideas as to how I can get it to work?
[12:58] <bimberi> sid: feel free to report it then :)
[12:58] <chaoticg33k> Ok, well I'm not getting responses in the server channel so maybe here. I have two computers, one network port in my dorm room. I want to share the connection between the two computers. I'm installing server on the second and I will have another network card tomorrow, but I can get it installed today. My question is how easy or hard will it be for me to set up ubuntu server to take the network connection from my windows box and share it or 
[12:58] <Vich> I accidently made a copy of a theme
[12:58] <Vich> how do I remove it?
[12:58] <djm62> sid: very well spotted: when you report it, tell us the URL to back you up?
[12:58] <chaoticg33k> that last . is supposed to be a ?
[12:59] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone: Is there any way I could keep Ubuntu on the partition it's on, and then use some of the space on that same partition for the files from my Mac OS?  Example: I'd like to store some MP3's and stuff there.
[12:59] <user-land> lapsus, try the new version.
[12:59] <Vich> there is no theme remove button ~_~
[12:59] <sid> djm62: eh, I'm too lazy to report it. I'm just going to mention it in ubuntu-devel and a dev will read it probably
[12:59] <triade> HaroldJohnson: I've seen gparted make a mess of the "file alocation table" be careful.
[12:59] <egon_spengler> chaoticg33k: That would take a bit of doing and be hard to follow in here
[12:59] <Riot777> anyone knows where disk-manager gone ? from edgy ?
[12:59] <nemlah> Hello all
[12:59] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Thanks for the warning.
[12:59] <nemlah> i am having some beryl trouble
[12:59] <DShepherd> nemlah: wanna try #beryl?
[01:00] <nemlah> composite enabled and ati driver works
[01:00] <nemlah> ok
[01:00] <Lapsus> user-land: I would, but I already have a bunch of the dapper cds. I really just need to use it to resize a partition
[01:00] <nemlah> thanks
[01:00] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Would it be possible to keep my Ubuntu partion, and use some of it for my Mac files?
[01:00] <djm62> HaroldJohnson: you could shrink ubuntu and make a "neutral partition" like FAT43 on the spare space
[01:00] <triade> HaroldJohnson: can you read or mount your ubuntu partition from osX?
[01:00] <user-land> try knoppix for that.
[01:00] <HaroldJohnson> djm62: But I need the space for Mac files
[01:00] <RichardC> can anyone here reccommend a vm for me to use on my windows xp machine for ubuntu 6.10?
[01:00] <bubuntu> need help, edgy cd could not find the image kernel
[01:00] <RichardC> recommend
[01:00] <Rage1248> chaoticg33k: easy, look into nat
[01:00] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Don't know how to, really.  Got an idea?  I could try it now.
[01:00] <deema> my sound worked in Edgy live cd, but when I installed it, my sound no longer works! anybody have an idea?
[01:01] <bubuntu> now I am in the dapper lice cd
[01:01] <bubuntu> live cd
[01:01] <Rage1248> chaoticg33k: options ip forwarding
[01:01] <djm62> deema: have you messed around with any volume controls?
[01:01] <soundray> chaoticg33k: I don't think that will be too difficult. IIRC, Windows provides something like network address translation, so you just have to give Ubuntu the Windows box's address as the gateway.
[01:01] <deema> yes, I think so
[01:01] <triade> I haven't got osX but it's BSD derived afaik.
[01:01] <azureal> 87%  gulp
[01:01] <azureal> i just hope this dist-upgrade goes well w/ my ubuntu server edition
[01:01] <Lapsus> user-land: That'd be great, but I don't have any blank media to burn it to either
[01:01] <HaroldJohnson> triade: I'm willing to try.  I'm one of those few who took *weeks* (if not *months*) to get Ubuntu running on a system which it's not really supposed to be running on anymore.
[01:01] <RichardC> heh
[01:01] <RichardC> lemme try that again
[01:01] <triade> HaroldJohnson: if you can read them you can use them.
[01:02] <RichardC> can anyone here recommend a vm for me to use on my windows xp machine for ubuntu 6.10?
[01:02] <HaroldJohnson> triade: I've put alot of effort into getting Ubuntu going on this
[01:02] <Nox_ville> vmware...
[01:02] <djm62> RichardC: vmware player IIRC
[01:02] <azureal> hehe lol
[01:02] <Nox_ville> @Harold
[01:02] <user-land> lapsus, i am sorry ...
[01:02] <bdragonmsl> I have an amd 4800 x2, is that compatible with the k8 restricted modules??
[01:02] <RichardC> djm62: thanks
[01:02] <triade> HaroldJohnson: was that an install of the live CD?
[01:02] <HaroldJohnson> triade: So, off the top of your head, what's a command I can try in Terminal?  I'll get Terminal open
[01:02] <HaroldJohnson> triade: No way
[01:02] <soundray> Has anyone got font trouble like I do since upgrading to edgy? Each of the antialiasing/subpixel smoothing modes looks worse than it used to in dapper.
[01:03] <HaroldJohnson> triade: I've had to go back to Breezy (or Hoary?  I don't recall), and then apt-get upgrade
[01:03] <triade> HaroldJohnson: uhh, "mount" .... without the quotes.
[01:03] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Dapper won't install on my old PowerBook G3
[01:03] <azureal> i love how on upgrade aptitude gave me a score:  -3
[01:03] <HaroldJohnson> triade: "mount...?"  Is it fdisk (or cfdisk) that will display my partitions?
[01:03] <Nox_ville> hello.. k i need some wireless networking assistance.. ive got a random access point and a hp laptopn (hp compaq nw8000) how can i connect to the access point...?
[01:04] <Tokenbad> please anyone who uses vmware server with ubuntu and windows that can answer some quick questions on the installing of windows since have vmware-server installed but need to know how to do the vm machine and install windows
[01:04] <axisys> how come when i click on the red power button on top corner it does not give a choice, but just log me out right away?
[01:04] <triade> HaroldJohnson: no, it'll show what the system (osX) has mounted.
[01:04] <MalfermitaKodo> Can someone tell me what the name of the output-device in alsa is?
[01:04] <HaroldJohnson> triade: How do I determine where my Ubuntu partition is located?  For this do I need to boot into Ubuntu?
[01:05] <mikuntu> how to make NTFS USB hard disc writable?
[01:05] <bdragonmsl> I have an amd 4800 x2, is that compatible with the k8 restricted modules??
[01:05] <triade> HaroldJohnson: first try from osX
[01:05] <Nox_ville> hello.. k i need some wireless networking assistance.. ive got a random access point and a hp laptopn (hp compaq nw8000) how can i connect to the access point...?
[01:05] <axisys> ever since i installed compiz w/ aiglx on dapper i am noticing this behavior.. even after upgrading to edgy w/ beryl still same behavior
[01:05] <axisys> the red power button just log me out w/ giving me a choice
[01:05] <ryanakca> whats the command to create a swap file of 512mb? dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=512
[01:05] <cryptonic> any chance someone could sent me the folders and files in the /etc/apt folder as that is whats wrong with the update feature?
[01:06] <azureal> 1. manual pages  2. google 3. irc
[01:06] <Nox_ville> hello.. k i need some wireless networking assistance.. ive got a random access point and a hp laptopn (hp compaq nw8000) how can i connect to the access point...?
[01:06] <deema> hey how do I navigate alsamixer? I want to try selecting a difference device, and I can't!
[01:06] <nikosapi> How do I upgrade to edgy? apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:06] <triade> Tokenbad: ask
[01:06] <djm62> Nox_ville: no need to repeat yourself
[01:06] <JoseStefan> nikosapi, /topic
[01:06] <azureal> !upgrade
[01:06] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[01:06] <HaroldJohnson> triade: That was it?  Just type "mount"?
[01:06] <nikosapi> merci
[01:06] <thrice`> !upgrade | nikosapi
[01:06] <ubotu> nikosapi: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[01:06] <Nox_ville> sorry.. thought i was talking to myself
[01:07] <MalfermitaKodo> deema: left and right?
[01:07] <djm62> Nox_ville: nope, you're just in a room with 1023 people at last count...it's kind of busy
[01:07] <hype> !opera
[01:07] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[01:07] <triade> HaroldJohnson: I hope so. I'm trusting osX is still *nix
[01:07] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Yes, LOL
[01:07] <eugman> Why are we using the firefox icon.
[01:07] <HaroldJohnson> triade: I think it still is.
[01:07] <triade> HaroldJohnson: oh, and hit <enter>
[01:07] <cryptonic> anyone at all, help would be much apreciated?
[01:07] <Tokenbad> triade, well basicly I have vmware server installed but how do I create the vertial machines and install windows to that vertual machine
[01:07] <Nox_ville> djm62: listen dude.. being in a room of 1/2 million people wouldn't help me more than this is now...
[01:08] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Well, it returned a few things.
[01:08] <soundray> thrice`: thanks for suggesting I take a screenshot re. my font problem. Did you have any suggestions? (http://www.soundray.org/screenshot.png)
[01:08] <triade> Tokenbad: you need to create a virtual HD to install in
[01:08] <fabio_> but today there are problem with repository of ubuntu dapper?
[01:08] <Agrajag> Tokenbad: you start by pressing the big "new virtual machine" button
[01:08] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Displays: "/dev/disk0s9 on / (local, journaled)"
[01:08] <Blacken> fabio_: The repositories are being overrun. Give it some time.
[01:08] <axisys> !powerbutton
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powerbutton - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <axisys> !power
[01:08] <HaroldJohnson> triade: "devfs on /dev (local)"
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <djm62> Nox_ville: have you looking in System->Administration->Networking?
[01:08] <HaroldJohnson> triade: "fdesc on /dev (union)"
[01:08] <Nox_ville> yes
[01:09] <HaroldJohnson> triade: "<volfs> on /.vol"
[01:09] <thrice`> soundray, sorry, I had to go to class :(  they seemed ok to me (the terminal fonts); are they different than in dapper ?
[01:09] <Nox_ville> i set the essid to hpsetup (the access point)
[01:09] <HaroldJohnson> triade: "/dev/disk0s10 on /Volumes/OS9 (local)"
[01:09] <Nox_ville> but when i try ping another computer on the network it cant..
[01:09] <cryptonic> any chance someone could sent me the folders and files in the /etc/apt folder as that is whats wrong with the update feature?
[01:09] <poccia> how do i log in as root in ubuntu
[01:09] <eugman> !sudo
[01:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:09] <poccia> i am a linux newbie
[01:09] <HaroldJohnson> triade: And a few others regarded "(automounted)"
[01:09] <Nox_ville> sudo passwd .. change password
[01:10] <Nox_ville> then su
[01:10] <soundray> thrice`: I want them to look like in the font selection dialog preview. In the terminal itself, the antialiasing is messed up. It was fine in dapper.
[01:10] <djm62> Nox_ville: if you have a terminal open, and you type "ifconfig" is your stuff there?
[01:10] <johnnytang24> sudo su -
[01:10] <Nox_ville> djm62: YES
[01:10] <Nox_ville> apologies for the caps lock...
[01:10] <Sonic|Laptop> Is anyone else getting disgusting slow speeds while upgrading to Edgy ?
[01:10] <thrice`> soundmaster80, you are configuring within terminal ?
[01:10] <soundray> thrice`: I should add that it's different between applications. Firefox and gnome-terminal are bad, xchat-gnome is fine.
[01:10] <thrice`> Sonic|Laptop, the servers are hammered right now...try a mirror
[01:10] <djm62> Nox_ville: so it indicates that you are on the wireless network?
[01:10] <triade> HaroldJohnson: try and get into into the one you think is your ubuntu. Prolly "ext3" partition.
[01:11] <Erwin> Anyone using Evolution in the new Ubuntu? Here it seems intent on scrolling all the way down to the bottom of a message, when viewing one in the preview. Anyone else seeing this behaviour?
[01:11] <soundray> thrice`: I am using Edit Current Profile in gnome-terminal
[01:11] <Tokenbad> triade, that is already done...
[01:11] <Tokenbad> Agrajag, what virtual machine button
[01:11] <bdragonmsl> I have an amd 4800 x2, is that compatible with the k8 restricted modules??
[01:11] <Nox_ville> no... well.. when i do a iwlist it shows the cells of the network.. and i connect in >> System >> Administration >> Networking to hpsetup...
[01:12] <Nox_ville> Sonic|Laptop: i wish i could even download Edgy.. never mind have kak speeds///
[01:12] <JoseStefan> bdragonmsl, there is no K8 restricted modules
[01:12] <thrice`> soundray, that's about all I can think to do...if you're X is working well in others, than i've got nothing; sorry
[01:12] <triade> HaroldJohnson: so find one that contains "etc/" and/or "proc/"
[01:12] <AlReece45> Has anyone successfully compiled in new alsa drivers or the 2.6.19 kernel?
[01:12] <Nox_ville> ...
[01:12] <triade> Tokenbad: so insert your XP install disk and install it.
[01:12] <Nox_ville> AlReece45.: no
[01:13] <soundray> thrice`: thanks -- I'll keep trying...
[01:13] <Agrajag> Tokenbad: I take it you found the button? :)
[01:13] <cryptonic> any chance someone could send me the folders and files in the /etc/apt folder as that is whats wrong with the my ubuntu update feature?
[01:13] <Erwin> Ah, it seems that the scroll-to-the-bottom bheaviour was due to Caret Mode somehow getting enabled
[01:13] <Agrajag> Tokenbad: make sure you create a virtual IDE disk drive, not SCSI
[01:13] <triade> Agrajag: Nah, he's out cold from the kmock. :-)
[01:13] <Nox_ville> djm62: any cunning plans??
[01:13] <Agrajag> Tokenbad: it'll make life easier
[01:14] <Erwin> (my evolution is on the Alt-F7 virtual desktop so I must have pressed F7 by itself)
[01:14] <djm62> Nox_ville: still not sure where you're at
[01:14] <Tokenbad> Agrajag, well first it took me to find that to find the console it was to go to applications then system tools...then yeah I found it
[01:14] <mista> is there a xgl help here
[01:14] <djm62> Nox_ville: can you use sudo iwconfig to connect to the network from the terminal?
[01:14] <Erwin> Can I change keyboard setup in Evolution BTW? I recall some way of doing it in GTK apps generally by holding down the mouse over a menu item and pressing the new key, but..
[01:14] <bimberi> !disk-manager
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about disk-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <Nox_ville> YES
[01:14] <bimberi> hm
[01:14] <Nox_ville> jc
[01:15] <JoseStefan> !xgl | mista
[01:15] <ubotu> mista: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:15] <Nox_ville> can amarok work on gnome
[01:15] <Nox_ville> ?
[01:15] <Nox_ville> btw
[01:15] <bluefox83> yes
[01:15] <bluefox83> it can
[01:15] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Thanks for your help; I'll have to resume this later.
[01:15] <djm62> Nox_ville: yes, it can.  it just might not match as well graphically
[01:15] <sergio63> hola
[01:15] <bluefox83> and does, very well
[01:15] <wizzymcnick> hello all
[01:15] <Nox_ville> dankeshun bluefox83
[01:15] <HaroldJohnson> Blacken: Thanks for your help
[01:15] <sergio63> hi
[01:15] <Nox_ville> djm62: ....
[01:15] <axisys> anyone knows why a click on red power button on top corner just logs me out instead of giving me choices to hybernate or anything else (sorry for repeating the question, wanted to phrase it better)
[01:15] <bluefox83> uhm..ok
[01:15] <triade> HaroldJohnson: Good luck.
[01:16] <wizzymcnick> is there any plan for a k7 2.6.17 release?
[01:16] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Thanks.
[01:16] <Blacken> HaroldJohnson: Not a problem. Good luck.
[01:16] <JoseStefan> wizzymcnick, it has been replaced by linux-generic
[01:16] <Nox_ville> axisys: that question has been asked 10000 times.. i can officially say there is no answer
[01:16] <bluefox83> axisys, you probably need to redefine it's action
[01:16] <Nox_ville> apart from that
[01:16] <axisys> Nox_ville: heh
[01:16] <HaroldJohnson> triade: It's just possible I'll be keeping Ubuntu on this Mac, once I figure out how to get some of its partition space back!
[01:16] <bdragonmsl> JoseStefan, there is in the synaptic.  Look under restricted.
[01:16] <wizzymcnick> JoseStefan: why is that?
[01:16] <axisys> bluefox83: how do i go by doing it?
[01:16] <rawrness> I just had a fun time.
[01:16] <HaroldJohnson> Blacken: It's just possible I'll be keeping Ubuntu on this Mac, once I figure out how to get some of its partition space back!
[01:17] <djm62> HaroldJohnson: you can do that by resizing partitions in your chosen software
[01:17] <JoseStefan> bdragonmsl, package name?
[01:17] <bdragonmsl> JoseStefan, I'm trying to see which kernel I should upgrade to.
[01:17] <azureal> red power buttons? bah =P
[01:17] <axisys> bluefox83: it changed since i switched to aiglx i think.. stayed same away even after upgrade
[01:17] <Nox_ville> djm62: soo.. that cunning plan's expiry time is approaching....
[01:17] <HaroldJohnson> djm62: Can't afford to buy that software (for my Mac)
[01:17] <triade> HaroldJohnson: there's a lot of ways, simply deleting is the easiest
[01:17] <JoseStefan> wizzymcnick, the kernels are optimized better, even the -i386 will load whatever features the CPU supports, Except SMP which is handled by -generic
[01:17] <Nox_ville> HaroldJohnson: then pirate it...www.bittorrent.com or www.whereisit.org
[01:17] <MrRio> !nvidiabeta
[01:17] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[01:17] <bdragonmsl> JoseStefan, linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8
[01:18] <riddlebox> I am trying to install mythtv, and I get this error  The user `mythtv' already exists, and is not a system user.
[01:18] <riddlebox> , I made my username mythtv when I instaled?
[01:18] <JoseStefan> !info linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8 edgy
[01:18] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8 does not exist in edgy
[01:18] <HaroldJohnson> triade: I might delete, and then re-partition the new space into one for Ubuntu and the other for OS X files.
[01:18] <Amaranth> Nox_ville: Please don't discuss illegal activities here.
[01:18] <triade> HaroldJohnson: o need to pirate use "open source"
[01:18] <bluefox83> axisys, try gnome control panel or look in the system->adminitration stuff
[01:18] <JoseStefan> !info linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8 dapper
[01:18] <wizzymcnick> ok
[01:18] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8 does not exist in dapper
[01:18] <Nox_ville> jc djm62: please reply
[01:18] <djm62> Nox_ville: you can use iwconfig to get on the network but Administration->Networking doesn't work?
[01:18] <axisys> bluefox83: aight
[01:18] <HaroldJohnson> triade: That's what I'm trying to do.
[01:18] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Okay, ttyl
[01:18] <triade> HaroldJohnson: yes, you'll hve to reinstall ubuntu yho
[01:18] <azureal> wow, no way, dist-upgrade is actually at 97%
[01:18] <bdragonmsl> it's in edgy
[01:18] <azureal> but then i probably need to do it again =/
[01:19] <HaroldJohnson> triade: That's the difficult part (for my particular machine).
[01:19] <andresmujica> anyone knows about problems with kontact and sasl-auth after 3.5.5 upgrade
[01:19] <Davey> Grr, Edgy broke my software RAID :(
[01:19] <Nox_ville> k.. maybe i am missing an important sentence here.. djm62: please go through the steps required line by line.. so i don't miss any crucial information
[01:19] <HaroldJohnson> triade: I prefer OS X, in general, but Ubuntu would give it a run for its money if a few more things worked the way I want them to.
[01:19] <Nox_ville> make it into a project... a HOWTO:
[01:19] <triade> HaroldJohnson: then backup the content of the partition and copy it back after resizing.
[01:20] <JoseStefan> !info linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8 edgy
[01:20] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8 does not exist in edgy
[01:20] <Nox_ville> HaroldJohnson: check out #macsorlinux
[01:20] <HaroldJohnson> triade: Good idea, thanks
[01:20] <HaroldJohnson> Nox_ville: Thanks for the tip
[01:20] <Centaur5> What is the command to be able to login to a broken ubuntu install from a live cd?
[01:20] <johny5> Is there an alternative to using the "gksu "update-manager -c -d" command to update from 6.06 to 6.10?
[01:20] <azureal> def linux over macs lol, what kind of question is that
[01:20] <omV0> hi, i'm using SUSE but i can't get any USB wireless network cards to work (i tried 3 different brands). I am wondering if it may work if i install Ubuntu
[01:20] <Amaranth> johny5: Yeah why?
[01:20] <djm62> Nox_ville: open a terminal, type sudo iwconfig <whateveryourinterfaceis> essid hpnetwork
[01:20] <HaroldJohnson> Nox_ville: I'm guessing you meant #maconlinux?
[01:20] <soundray> JoseStefan: that package has been obsoleted by linux-restricted-modules-generic
[01:21] <Amaranth> omV0: What are they?
[01:21] <JoseStefan> bdragonmsl, http://packages.ubuntu.com/linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8
[01:21] <JoseStefan> bdragonmsl, obsolete, what soundray said
[01:21] <johny5> I keep on getting a "failure to fetch .... from freecontrib.com"
[01:21] <triade> HaroldJohnson: google for "find cpio" to do that.
[01:21] <Nox_ville> HaroldJohnson: no.. this is a new channel,. its very good... lots of ppl too
[01:21] <johny5> Amaranth, not the exact message, but something of that sort.
[01:21] <azureal> Nox_ville, your card works but can't connect to a particular network...?
[01:21] <Whatsisname> hello again everyone
[01:21] <Amaranth> johny5: Get rid of the 3rd party repos in your sources.list
[01:21] <HaroldJohnson> Nox_ville: Nobody's there now!
[01:21] <Nox_ville> azureal: indeed
[01:22] <HaroldJohnson> Nox_ville: Thx anyway
[01:22] <JoseStefan> bdragonmsl, i suggest install both "linux-generic" and "linux-386" and pick the one that performs better
[01:22] <Whatsisname> does anyone have any experience with flexlm on GNU/Linux
[01:22] <Nox_ville> HaroldJohnson: just check it out anyway...
[01:22] <azureal> Nox_ville, you have things set up in /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:22] <johny5> Amaranth, alright, I'll give it another shot that way.  Thanks!
[01:22] <omV0> Amaranth: i kept buying different ones and when they didnt work i returned them.. i'll buy ANY usb wireless network device that will work...
[01:22] <omV0> Amaranth: but looking at SuSE forums, it's not so easy with SuSE
[01:22] <Amaranth> omV0: Let me see what I can find
[01:23] <omV0> Amaranth: thanks!! =)
[01:23] <Whatsisname> hmm
[01:23] <ToHellWithGA> .me wants to suggest features for and test feisty
[01:23] <Amaranth> omV0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported#head-603c9481d6c6288b6b674cc50132d21f6d539c53
[01:23] <ToHellWithGA> edgy is so this morning :P
[01:23] <djm62> Nox_ville: replacing my obvious nonsense with sense
[01:23] <azureal> strange, right after upgrade i get a "E: Unable to correct for unavailable packages"
[01:23] <shwag> i dont see that there is a clear seperation between what catcti and mrtg do?  Is there one ?
[01:23] <Whatsisname> shwag, there is a seperation yes
[01:24] <shwag> Whatisname: Whatisit?
[01:24] <Nox_ville> djm62: bout time... im trying that command now... just reinstalling my piece 'o  crap laptop....
[01:24] <Amaranth> omV0: according to that site you have 2 choices for "out of box" working USB wireless.
[01:24] <Whatsisname> assuming what I remember is correct
[01:24] <omV0> Amaranth: i hope i can get them at best buy or fries electronics, but thanks!!
[01:24] <t0ny-p40> I got an ubuntu server on a network with a windows server and the win server is running a nameserver and on the linux one it keeps adding "nameserver 192.168.0.2" to the /etc/resolv.conf and the problem with that is the windows server likes to tell Linux the ip to every domain name is 1.0.0.0 which makes things fail. Any idea how to disable this?
[01:24] <Whatsisname> mrtg was first created, then the graphing functions were seperated into a new package, now known as rrdtool
[01:24] <fabio_> anyone knows a tool for search torrent files?
[01:24] <Whatsisname> then cacti was created using rrdtool
[01:24] <Nox_ville> t0ny-p40: get a new wife
[01:24] <Nox_ville> joeks
[01:24] <Nox_ville> jokes..
[01:24] <Whatsisname> although cacti and mrtg serve similar purposes
[01:24] <Nox_ville> i've had that problem too
[01:25] <Amaranth> omV0: your best bet is probably newegg.com
[01:25] <t0ny-p40> How would a wife fix it?
[01:25] <axisys> bluefox83: got it.. thnx a lot.. it is in gnome-session-properties
[01:25] <t0ny-p40> lol
[01:25] <Whatsisname> cacti is a collection of scripts that drive rrdtool
[01:25] <Whatsisname> whereas mrtg originally had the code for rrdtool as part of it
[01:25] <Whatsisname> and maybe still does
[01:26] <Nox_ville> azureal: i don't know yet.. what should be in that file?
[01:26] <johny5> Amaranth, Thanks again, that's fixed my problem...not that I doubted you.
[01:26] <azureal> is there a pt to 'aptitude dist-upgrade'  twice?
[01:26] <fabio_> anyone knows a tool for search torrent files?
[01:26] <azureal> Nox_ville, basic config for eth0, eth1
[01:26] <jbroome> google
[01:27] <Nox_ville> azureal: huh ? elaborate... networking is a new foie gras for me?
[01:27] <fabio_> ...
[01:27] <Viper550> Yay, Edgy is FINALLY here!
[01:27] <Nox_ville> Viper550: you're only 9 hours too late on that announcement
[01:27] <h3htimo> hey guys im updating to edgy right now, and i need to restart alsa, can i do this without restarting or do i need to restart and if i do will i have to redownload everything that im in the process of downloading?? im at 50% right now
[01:27] <Nox_ville> but nice try
[01:27] <Nox_ville> anway
[01:27] <Viper550> I just heard...sorry
[01:27] <Nox_ville> *anyway
[01:27] <Davey> Can anyone help me get my software RAID0 array back?
[01:27] <omV0> Amaranth: neither of those models are on newegg.com =(
[01:28] <Nox_ville> Viper550: no worries...
[01:28] <azureal> Nox_ville, http://pastebin.ca/223520 for ex.
[01:28] <Viper550> But...did anyone notice a little branding miracle? Firefox has it's icon!
[01:28] <Code-E> :o
[01:28] <Nox_ville> azureal: letme check it out.... brb
[01:28] <azureal> i'm not sure if the last 2 lines are needed or not
[01:28] <GhostFreeman> What's the package name for the 686-smp kernel?
[01:29] <JoseStefan> GhostFreeman, dapper or edgy?
[01:29] <bimberi> GhostFreeman: linux-686-smp
[01:29] <GhostFreeman> edgy
[01:29] <JoseStefan> GhostFreeman, "linux-generic"
[01:29] <h3htimo> can someone tell me the command to restart alsa??
[01:29] <Viper550> so, did anyone notice the packaged themes?
[01:29] <Nox_ville> azureal: k.. ill try that now...
[01:30] <elriah> Hey guys, is it possible to do an upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[01:30] <Davey> yes
[01:30] <rawrness> dur
[01:30] <bimberi> !upgrade | elriah
[01:30] <soundray> elriah: read the topic
[01:30] <ubotu> elriah: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[01:30] <elriah> Tnx.
[01:31] <Nox_ville> elriah: yes.. RTFT.
[01:31] <azureal> what does the last T stand for?!
[01:31] <azureal> 'text' ?
[01:31] <elriah> So 6.10 isn't "Long Term Support" only 6.06?
[01:31] <Nox_ville> is anyone here from South Africa?
[01:31] <GhostFreeman> Is there a performance difference between linux-generic and the 686-smp kernel? Because I quite liked 686-smp
[01:32] <bdragonmsl> Has anyone had problems with 6.10 and nvidia??
[01:32] <JoseStefan> GhostFreeman, afaik, no
[01:32] <Nox_ville> bdragonmsl: i have...
[01:32] <Code-E> !bazaar-ng > Code-E
[01:32] <GhostFreeman> alright, thanks
[01:32] <Code-E> ...
[01:32] <transgress_> i've noticed my console screen is too big... like i can't see the bottom of stuff if i log in via console instead of a gui... is there a fix for this?
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bazaar-ng - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <bimberi> GhostFreeman: linux-generic is the new name, linux-686-smp is now a superceded package
[01:32] <bdragonmsl> Nox_ville, what card do you have??
[01:32] <omV0> anybody here uses wireless networking? i want to know what device you are using... i can't get any to work
[01:32] <bimberi> !info linux-686-smp edgy
[01:33] <ubotu> linux-686-smp: Obsoleted by: linux-image-generic. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:33] <eugman> CAn someone tell me what a white box icon with a start means for a package?
[01:33] <azureal> bimberi, i'm considering running aptitude dist-upgrade a second time, but i get this weird message 'Need to get 14.2MB/186MB of archives. After unpacking 161MB will be freed.'
[01:33] <Nox_ville> bdragonmsl: 6600gt
[01:33] <GhostFreeman> superceded in the sense the kernel is now optimized for the entire x86 family?
[01:33] <bdragonmsl> Nox_ville, pci-e??
[01:33] <bimberi> azureal: that looks ok to me, what's your concern with it?
[01:33] <Nox_ville> bdragonmsl: ya
[01:33] <triade> omV0: yeah, no prob
[01:33] <azureal> bimberi, because it looks like it will uninstall what it just installed, no?
[01:34] <bdragonmsl> Nox_ville, I'm having issues with my 7900 gt
[01:34] <omV0> triade: on a desktop?
[01:34] <triade> omV0: no, laptops.
[01:34] <Nox_ville> oh.. thats not kewl....
[01:34] <omV0> triade: oh.. i'm using a desktop.. nothing seems to work.. it sucks
[01:34] <Nox_ville> whats the exact problem
[01:34] <triade> omV0: what card?
[01:34] <Cale> hmm, fetching file 79 of 1427 at 36k/s. Perhaps I should wait a few days :)
[01:35] <bimberi> azureal: yes it does seem to be a lot of freed up space.  Usually it's correct about such things though.  It's probably replacing a lot of bloat
[01:35] <Davey> http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?format=plain&pid=9100 - anyone have any ideas?
[01:35] <omV0> triade: i tried a bunch of wireless usb.. i keep buying and returning when i can't get it to work.. i tried d-link and linksys wireless usb
[01:35] <Nox_ville> whats the command to install amarok?
[01:35] <elriah> cleaning out your apt respository...
[01:35] <elriah> That's where your free space is coming from.
[01:35] <soundray> azureal: is this during an edgy upgrade?
[01:35] <azureal> bimberi, ok, but if i answer yes to that prompt, i get another one 'Need to get 528kB/172MB of archives. After unpacking 171MB will be freed.'
[01:36] <fabio_> please...google don't help me...i need only the name of tool to search torrent file
[01:36] <jepeltw> Hello all, I'm having some trouble finding the torrents for Edgy. I choose my region like the page says, but it doesn't show any torrent options
[01:36] <azureal> soundray, yes, an unconventional one... and the 2nd run of aptitude dist-upgrade
[01:36] <eugman> Can someone explain the box icons in synaptic?
[01:36] <triade> omV0: sounds the sam as "my printer wont print"...be more specific.
[01:36] <azureal> soundray, and it's scaring the hell out of me...
[01:36] <boricua> asking again to see consesus on upgrading to edgy from dapper apt or gui????
[01:37] <bimberi> boricua: the gui update-manager is the preferred method
[01:37] <azureal> bimberi, and 171 mb was exactly the amt of space taken up by the dist-upgrade...
[01:37] <AlReece45> I prefered using GUI b/c it took less work
[01:37] <Whatsisname> what
[01:37] <soundray> azureal: did you have ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop installed before you started?
[01:37] <Whatsisname> commandline > gui
[01:37] <boricua> Whatsisname: using update-manager
[01:37] <bimberi> azureal: probably coincidence, although that's easy for me to say from here :)
[01:37] <azureal> soundray, no, it was an unconventional upgrade advised by someone here for a server install
[01:38] <jojoman02> anyone know where i can get the latest mplayer 1.0 rc1 for ubuntu Dapper/Edgy??
[01:38] <jojoman02> i don't wanna compile from source...
[01:38] <azureal> lol
[01:39] <JoseStefan> bbl
[01:39] <enkidu> how to install Edgy on a 2 GB USB stick ?
[01:39] <Dr_willis> jojoman02,  tough choices then. :)
[01:39] <Whatsisname> jojoman02, should be in multiverse i think
[01:39] <jojoman02> Dr_willis: i'm not a nerd, compiling is for nerds...
[01:39] <Whatsisname> err wait
[01:39] <Whatsisname> nevermind
[01:39] <Dr_willis> jojoman02,  so it watching movies :)
[01:39] <Renan_s2> !xgl
[01:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:39] <Dr_willis> so is...
[01:39] <Dr_willis> lol
[01:39] <azureal> omg dont say it
[01:39] <Whatsisname> for nerds er
[01:39] <soundray> azureal: I agree with bimberi -- should be okay. How bad would it be having to do a fresh server install on that machine?
[01:39] <Whatsisname> *eh
[01:40] <jojoman02> Dr_willis: true
[01:40] <azureal> soundray, er... bad... this basically is a fresh install
[01:40] <Whatsisname> well then find a nerd to hold your hand for you then
[01:40] <triade> enkidu: good idea, I've just bought a 2G SD card. :-)
[01:40] <Nyto-RJ> Hi , is there a way to convert the installation cd-iso to dvd-iso???
[01:40] <Dr_willis> considering that edjy just came out today.....   i doubt if anyone has any new packages for it yet. :)
[01:40] <mjr> Nyto-RJ, what do you mean? It shouldn't matter where you burn it to
[01:40] <enkidu> triade: someone just offered one to me!
[01:40] <elriah> yuk! 21.3k/sec
[01:40] <luis> how can I scale the subtitles in mplayer?
[01:40] <azureal> soundray, it's going to remove all the packages it just downloaded i think =/
[01:41] <Nyto-RJ> but matters
[01:41] <euclectus> irc://irc.freenode.net/aircrack-ng
[01:41] <Nyto-RJ> because its bootable
[01:41] <triade> enkidu: wasn't me, I just bought mine yesterday. :-)
[01:41] <soundray> azureal: that would be unusual -- why would it do that?
[01:41] <Nyto-RJ> ive got a lot of dvd-rs
[01:41] <Nyto-RJ> but none cd-r
[01:41] <enkidu> triade: I have installed a DSL, it works, but it sucks
[01:41] <Nyto-RJ> i want to burn the cd-iso to the dvd-r
[01:41] <aquarius> My upgrade from dapper to edgy broke while trying to upgrade erlang, and my system is now rather weird; the fonts are different, and some icons are showing as the red-x "missing" icon. I don't know whether to reboot or not, since the broken upgrade may have bust everything. What should I do?
[01:42] <eugman> Can someone explain the icons in synaptic?
[01:42] <azureal> soundray, you tell me when it just said it needs to get under a meg and wants to free 171 mbs...
[01:42] <triade> enkidu: you mean the modem?
[01:42] <jbroome> apparently not
[01:42] <azureal> soundray, but _hopefully_ it's just setting up the upstart
[01:42] <Whatsisname> aquarius, do you have a seperate /home partition
[01:42] <mjr> Nyto-RJ, I don't see the problem
[01:42] <enkidu> triade: Damn Small Linux
[01:42] <aquarius> Whatsisname: no.
[01:42] <Whatsisname> then there is no easy answer for your situation
[01:42] <Dr_willis> I find DSL very good at what it was designed to do.
[01:42] <triade> enkidu: try slax
[01:42] <Nyto-RJ> because CD-ISO is diferent of DVD-ISO
[01:42] <jojoman02> what is the next ubuntu version? gonne be called? fiesty ferret??
[01:43] <Dr_willis> jojoman02,  Farting Fawn
[01:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:43] <enkidu> triade: no, i want ubuntu
[01:43] <azureal> soundray, yea, lol sure enough it's  removing everything.....
[01:43] <bimberi> jojoman02: Feisty Fawn
[01:43] <enkidu> triade: no, i want edgy
[01:43] <jojoman02> bimberi: all, cool
[01:43] <AlReece45> I installed kubuntu-desktop last month to see which one I prefered. I uninstalled it a couple of weeks ago because I didn't use, but now the kubuntu splash screens are still there, how can I get the ubuntu splash screens back/
[01:43] <soundray> azureal: erm, okay...
[01:43] <totall_6_7> LOL @ Ferret
[01:43] <aquarius> Whatsisname: I didn't think to create one when I initially installed this machine (with breezy a year or so ago).
[01:43] <triade> enkidu: so just tell it to format and install there.
[01:43] <soundray> azureal: hope it goes all right for you anyhow
[01:43] <Dr_willis> !usplash
[01:43] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[01:43] <bimberi> !feisty
[01:43] <ubotu> Feisty Fawn is the codename for version 7.04 of the Ubuntu distribution.
[01:43] <totall_6_7> i like that
[01:44] <Nyto-RJ> try to burn the ubuntu cd-iso into a dvd-r
[01:44] <azureal> soundray yea lol..maybe it's supposed to do the full process twice?!
[01:44] <hype> need help comppiling Gaim 2.0 beta4 on edgy: i get this error http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/YdMfDH59.html
[01:44] <Dr_willis> Nyto-RJ,  that dont work.. :) did it by mistake once.
[01:44] <Viper550> If anyone prefers a more orangy theme, Tropic is now in Universe
[01:44] <triade> enkidu: slax only needs 250M includig KDE
[01:44] <Nyto-RJ> so what can I do to convert the cd-iso to dvd-iso
[01:45] <enkidu> triade: usb stick need a special formatting, isn't it ?
[01:45] <eagle1> hi
[01:45] <jojoman02> i would love to see the decision making on these names, No i want frost fox, no i want fuzzy ferret, no i want fiest fawn... lol...
[01:45] <Dr_willis> Nyto-RJ,  never seen it done,
[01:45] <Nyto-RJ> i read about a script to convert the suse linux cds into dvd
[01:45] <Nox_ville> azureal: k.. ive set that command you said.. no response.. my windows computer still cant ping the laptop...
[01:45] <eagle1> there's a guide to update from dapper to the last 6.10 ubuntu?
[01:45] <jojoman02> fiesty*
[01:45] <Nox_ville> azureal: k.. ive set that command you said.. no response.. my windows computer still cant ping the laptop...
[01:45] <Nyto-RJ> should have a way
[01:45] <bimberi> !upgrade | eagle1
[01:45] <mjr> Nyto-RJ, I don't buy your claim that they are different
[01:45] <soundray> jojoman02: still not spelt right ;)
[01:45] <azureal> Nox_ville, "set that command you said" ?
[01:45] <eagle1> !upgrade
[01:45] <Nyto-RJ> they are
[01:45] <mjr> Nyto-RJ, how?
[01:46] <soundray> jojoman02: and fortunately, such decisions are made by a self-appointed benevolent dictator
[01:46] <eagle1> nothing happen bimberi
[01:46] <bimberi> hm, ubotu is lagging badly or down
[01:46] <helloyo> installing edgy from CD, but the "display is out of range", in dapper i could ctrl + alt + + it, but this doesn't work anymore
[01:46] <dutchy> eagle1: read topic :)
[01:46] <Dr_willis> cd's are iso9660 fs's  DVDs are udf aint they.
[01:46] <wk> hi can someone help me with an problem updating dapper to edgy? i did apt-get dist-upgrade and got the error to remove files from /etc/X11R6/bin - that's what i did - after that i can't continue the installation :(
[01:46] <eagle1> k
[01:46] <triade> enkidu: yes, normally they're formatted "vfat", you need *nix filesystem to install.
[01:46] <Nyto-RJ> the heading of a cd-iso come with CD into it
[01:46] <eagle1> sorry for the shitty questions ;)
[01:46] <eugman> Can someone tell me what a whitebox with a star in synaptic means?
[01:46] <Mirro> where can i make Fonts bigger?
[01:46] <Nox_ville> sorry.. it might not have been u..
[01:46] <enkidu> triade: what do you mean ?
[01:46] <Nyto-RJ> so i cant be burn the same way
[01:46] <Nox_ville> !BluetoothRemoteControl
[01:46] <mjr> Dr_willis, udf is the canonical dvd filesystem, though most often there is an iso-9660 one there too, and udf's presence is by no means given
[01:46] <Dr_willis> Mirro,  theres a FONTS program in the control-center thinggy
[01:46] <Mirro> Font Preferences doesnt make anything change
[01:46] <enkidu> triade: so, when formatting, I have to chose vfat instead of ext, right?
[01:46] <soundray> wk: why can't you continue?
[01:46] <Lam_> !aiglx > Lam_
[01:47] <triade> enkidu: vfat = DOS/win98
[01:47] <jojoman02> soundray: ahh, thanks for the info, that is forunate, we do have more important decisions
[01:47] <azureal> Nox_ville, it wasnt a command that i said, it was a configuration of /etc/network/interfaces ...
[01:47] <aquarius> Whatsisname: I'm not sure whether I should reboot or not, or try and rerun the upgrade after uninstalling the broken packages, or how to work out whether my system is inconsistent.
[01:47] <elriah> Woo hoo! 24k/sec!
[01:47] <A[D] minS> !ram
[01:47] <A[D] minS> !low memory
[01:47] <Nox_ville> azureal: please would you explaing howto set up a wireless network then....
[01:47] <wk> soundray: i get some perl errors when trying sudo apt-get -f install
[01:47] <Nox_ville> the other methods not working..
[01:47] <boricua> where are the release notes for edgy
[01:47] <Dr_willis> !network-manager
[01:47] <jojoman02> is anyone not feeling feisty fawn? i wasn't feeling dapper drake but then at the end it really had a ring to it
[01:47] <Leone> what the kernel version for breezy?
[01:47] <Nyto-RJ> anyway, im trying to save time and money to install the 6.10
[01:47] <boricua> where are the release notes for edgy
[01:47] <helloyo> how do i set the installation resolution of edgy?
[01:47] <Laucsap> Just a line to say : Bravo, Edgy Eft runs soo much better! Bye :)
[01:47] <eagle1> quite easy with synaptic :)))
[01:47] <soundray> wk: can you put them up on the pastebin so we can have a look
[01:47] <Nyto-RJ> ive got a lot of dvd-rs
[01:47] <Nox_ville> !wtf
[01:48] <elriah> Is there anyway to encrypt an entire filesystem?  i.e., to prevent someone from just mounting your OS disk with another operating system bypassing all your security?
[01:48] <ubotu> eagle1: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[01:48] <Whatsisname> aquarius, O
[01:48] <azureal> Nox_ville, er... if your card is working, all you really need to do is change /etc/network/interfaces
[01:48] <Whatsisname> i'm not sure either
[01:48] <dutchy> Feisty Fawn is kindof a shitty name :>
[01:48] <Nyto-RJ> dont wanto to buy a cdr
[01:48] <Dr_willis> elriah,  yes its doable.
[01:48] <triade> enkidu: no not vfat. That doesn't have file permissions needed by *nix.
[01:48] <azureal> and then reboot, maybe
[01:48] <Leone> whats the kernel version for breezy?
[01:48] <aquarius> Whatsisname: ?
[01:48] <khaije> has anyone here played w/ the smart package manager?
[01:48] <Leone> whats the kernel version for dapper!!?
[01:48] <Leone> sory
[01:48] <eagle1> ubotu, you bot r very lagged u know? :)
[01:48] <Whatsisname> I'd try having it fix the broken packages then start again
[01:48] <elriah> Dr_Willis: How?
[01:48] <Mirro> I dunno why, but Font Preferences makes NO CHANGE
[01:48] <khaije> is it strong enough for server use? (the smart package manager)
[01:48] <Sionide> khaije, synaptic ? or something else?
[01:48] <Whatsisname> otherwise back up your data, and repartition your disk because you should have a /home partition anyway
[01:48] <helloyo> how do i set installation resolution?
[01:48] <AlReece45> Dr_willis: I read that page, and as I thought that doesn't help my situation. Kubuntu-desktop made a new splash image, and now that its not installed anymore, I want the old one back. how do i get the ubuntu splash back instead of kubuntu splash?
[01:48] <Whatsisname> if you had one this problem would be no sweat
[01:48] <enkidu> triade: so, I just install edgy same as on a hard drive ?
[01:49] <aquarius> Whatsisname: OK
[01:49] <azureal> Nox_ville, if you have wep encryption it might be a bit more complex..and you'd need to add the wep key into interfaces
[01:49] <Nox_ville> azureal: what file again.>?
[01:49] <khaije> Sionide: maybe dpkg knows...
[01:49] <khaije> !smart
[01:49] <aquarius> Whatsisname: if /home partitions are that important then surely the installer should encourage you to create one?
[01:49] <azureal> Nox_ville, /etc/network/interfaces  =)
[01:49] <triade> enkidu: that's it. just point it to /dev/sda or so.
[01:49] <khaije> !smart
[01:49] <wk> soundray: that's a little bit difficult, because i have no ssh connection to the pc :( how can i start ssh? :)
[01:49] <Dr_willis> AlReece45,  you fix the links i recall that its made.. i dont worry about the useless eye candy..i disable all the splash bolony.
[01:49] <A[D] minS> how i can add to Live CD boot swap drive ?
[01:49] <Nox_ville> thats a  directory tho
[01:49] <enkidu> triade: ok, cool if it works...
[01:49] <Whatsisname> i would think so, however seperate home partitions make things sketchy if you dual boot with windows
[01:49] <A[D] minS> because i have lowram
[01:49] <soundray> wk: 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start'
[01:49] <Whatsisname> although it might not be so bad anymore now that there is ntfs write support
[01:50] <helloyo> could somebody please help me install edgy? i just need to get the correct resolution
[01:50] <finalbeta> Anyone else having problems with vino not rendering correct images whit fglrx installed?
[01:50] <enkidu> triade: so why did you suggest me to use slax ? just because of the size ?
[01:50] <Leone> whats the kernel version for dapper!!?
[01:50] <Dr_willis> A[D] minS,  i thought the live cd scanned and used swap partiions it found -
[01:50] <triade> enkidu: your box will have to support booting from USB to be able to use it.
[01:50] <Nox_ville> azureal: thats a  directory tho
[01:50] <wk> soundray: i just tried this... :) no ssh there...
[01:50] <soundray> wk 'sudo apt-get install ssh'
[01:50] <azureal> Nox_ville, ?!
[01:50] <enkidu> triade: it already works with DSL
[01:50] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[01:50] <Whatsisname> i have a dedicated /home partition and because of that I could totally hose my install, and I wouldn't really be all the upset, because my data would be protected, I could reinstall and be back like I was before in under 20 minutes
[01:50] <A[D] minS> Dr_willis: in xubuntu it not doing
[01:50] <azureal> Nox_ville, i was the one who gave you an example of my interfaces file, remember?
[01:50] <khaije> Sionide: I'll find a link to show you what i'm talking about (it's not synaptic)
[01:51] <Dr_willis> A[D] minS,  could edit the fstab and/or use the swapon command.
[01:51] <Whatsisname> and the moment I login everything would be like it was
[01:51] <Nyto-RJ> does anyone know how to convert the cd-iso of installation cd image to dvd-iso..... HELP!!!
[01:51] <A[D] minS> so Dr_willis what i can add to grub boot?
[01:51] <triade> enkidu: yes, size matters.:-) and it has smaller footprint = faster.
[01:51] <Whatsisname> including the mess of icnos on my desktop
[01:51] <Nox_ville> azureal: soz.. .got it now..
[01:51] <A[D] minS> Dr_willis: when i do swapon it freez
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about BluetoothRemoteControl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <AlReece45> Dr_willis: shouldn't removing kubuntu-desktop remove the links that changed the splash image?
[01:51] <Munchkinguy> Ubuntu doesn't agree well with my S3 ViRGE video card. There all sorts of artefacts when I move the mouse. Any suggestions?
[01:51] <Code-E> LOL
[01:51] <dooglus> is there a list of mirrors which have edgy in their apt repositories?  I've been using cz.archive.ubuntu.com, not realising that it doesn't have edgy final
[01:51] <Leone> which kernel i must install in dapper!??!?
[01:51] <soundray> Nyto-RJ: I would have thought you can burn the CD iso to a DVD without any conversion... have you tried?
[01:51] <Dr_willis> AlReece45,  thats just a meta-pacakge - it dont remove diddle.
[01:51] <triade> enkidu: slax has special USB edition.works very well.
[01:52] <Whatsisname> Munchkinguy, are you sure your card isn't toast
[01:52] <Nox_ville> azureal: whats the dif between wlan0 and ath0 ?
[01:52] <Whatsisname> i've used an S3 virge before
[01:52] <pobstil> hey an
[01:52] <wk> soundray: i can't install anything because of dependency problems
[01:52] <jbroome> Nox_ville: different wireless drivers
[01:52] <enkidu> triade: i'm looking at it
[01:52] <Code-E> !ubotu > Code-E
[01:52] <Code-E> ;(
[01:52] <Munchkinguy> Whatsisname: Works fine on Fedora with a bit of tweaking.
[01:52] <Nyto-RJ> soundray , on nero it s not possible
[01:52] <AlReece45> Dr_willis: I also removed everything with kde or kubuntu in the name
[01:52] <Nox_ville> jbroome: oh.. should ath0 be fine tho
[01:52] <azureal> Nox_ville, i dont know what those are...
[01:53] <Nyto-RJ> i think if its burn , it wont boot from it
[01:53] <jbroome> beats me, depends on your card
[01:53] <Nox_ville> azureal: k.. otherwise my file was exactly as you said it should be anyway...
[01:53] <triade> enkidu: you can try edgy but you'll have to take off a lot of surplus.
[01:53] <Dr_willis> AlReece45,  sounds like a lot of work for nothing. :P i tend to Install kde and gnome and xfce.. and  most stuff.
[01:53] <Nox_ville> azureal: what next
[01:53] <enkidu> triade: i can't find the usb stick edition of slax
[01:53] <azureal> Nox_ville, er.. so you have two interfaces, but they're not called eth0 and eth1? they're called something else.. ?
[01:53] <Code-E> heh
[01:53] <Code-E> Ubotu is ignoring me
[01:53] <Nyto-RJ> to install 6.06 i tried to emulate the cd-iso , extract , then burn it into dvd-r
[01:53] <Nyto-RJ> it did not boot
[01:53] <khaije> Sionide: this is what I was wondering about... http://labix.org/smart but I think i've already answered my own question
[01:53] <Nyto-RJ> from it
[01:54] <enkidu> triade: nor how to install it
[01:54] <soundray> wk: some combination of 'sudo apt-get -f install', 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' and 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' should get it going again.
[01:54] <helloyo> could somebody please help me! i know this is simple to a lot of you!
[01:54] <khaije> it doesn't sounds ready
[01:54] <triade> enkidu: umm, it's called "popcorn" iirc.
[01:54] <Whatsisname> Code-E, its not in the channel right now
[01:54] <Nox_ville> azureal: yes.. one wired ethernet (eth0) and one wireless (named ath0)
[01:54] <Code-E> yeah it is
[01:54] <Code-E> And im messaging it
[01:54] <Code-E> O_O
[01:54] <mjr> Nyto-RJ, it wouldn't. You missed the el torito boot sector creation options, no doubt
[01:54] <boricua> i initiated the gui upgrade but i dont like the eta  8 hrs is there a way to stop the upgrade so i can try later
[01:54] <enkidu> triade: ok, I found it, thanks!
[01:54] <soundray> wk: if you have a failing postinst script, it may be worth forcing a success on that by inserting 'exit 0' as the second line.
[01:54] <mjr> Nyto-RJ, did you actually try to burn the ISO straight to DVD?
[01:54] <triade> enkidu: have fun! :-)
[01:54] <Sionide> khaije, looks a bit like autopackage et al
[01:55] <boricua> currently its fetching and installing upgrdes
[01:55] <frodo>  i have slow speed in net connection is there a mirrors to be added in synaptic repository in Edgy?
[01:55] <Rockfish> !automatix
[01:55] <frodo> pleas
[01:55] <Nyto-RJ> yeah , with nero !!!!
[01:55] <enkidu> triade: but it's for very small usb stick... it lacks a lot of stuffs...
[01:55] <elriah> How would I encrypt my /var/www/ directory and still allow apache2 to read the files?
[01:55] <azureal> Nox_ville, ok, so now you have entries in /etc/network/interfaces  for the ath0 essid ... if the card was already configured before(drivers, etc), the changes to the interfaces file should do it...
[01:55] <Dr_willis> elriah,  that would be a neat trick.
[01:55] <khaije> Sionide: although it's being championed by some people, i still don't see how it's better maybe it will become clear after more development
[01:55] <elriah> I want to protect some php source code...
[01:56] <triade> enkidu: you can add once installed or make your own...whatever.
[01:56] <azureal> Nox_ville, perhaps a reboot.
[01:56] <Nox_ville> azureal: it isn't doing tho..
[01:56] <helloyo> how do i set my install resolution!?
[01:56] <Nyto-RJ> but its not possible
[01:56] <Nox_ville> azureal: i have already..
[01:56] <mjr> Nyto-RJ, ah. Well. Apparently somebody else has the same problem. With Nero. : http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=143236
[01:56] <Vich> where are custom made themes stored?
[01:56] <Vich> I'm trying to delete one
[01:57] <helloyo> i cannot install edgy because the resolution is wrong, can somebody PLEASE help
[01:57] <Nox_ville> azureal: but still its not working....
[01:57] <soundray> helloyo: at what point does it fail?
[01:58] <azureal> Nox_ville, when i started talking about interfaces file, you'd said that the card was already configured, and just wouldn't connect to that access pt... if that was true then the interfaces changes should be enough to connect to a wireless network w/o a WEP key
[01:58] <Firebird88> does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade not work for ubuntu server?
[01:58] <Nox_ville> helloyo: when booting... choose safe mode.
[01:58] <helloyo> soundray: thankyou! every option i change will result in the screen being "out of range" and i can't change that
[01:58] <Nox_ville> azureal: k.. brb
[01:58] <helloyo> Nox_ville: i tried that, the screen was still out of range, and ctrl alt + didn't change it like before
[01:58] <Nyto-RJ> will try
[01:58] <azureal> nod, me too
[01:58] <azureal> i need to restart as well
[01:59] <Nox_ville> helloyo: sorry.. i fixed mine that way tho..
[01:59] <salkot> I tried to upgrad using update-manager, but it crashed with "can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk"
[01:59] <Nyto-RJ> i use bonfire with Ubuntu
[01:59] <Nyto-RJ> will try
[01:59] <Nyto-RJ> 73 %  downloaded
[01:59] <Nyto-RJ> just waiting
[01:59] <Nyto-RJ> to try
[01:59] <helloyo> Nox_ville: yeah, it helped a little, the bootsplash came up, but then the desktop was still out of range
[01:59] <Nox_ville> oh..
[01:59] <Vich> I've been asking questions in here for the past 2 days and getting no answers
[02:00] <Vich> every single time I've gone and figured it out myself (painfully)
[02:00] <boricua> i would like to stop the upgrade since it is slow how can i do that?
[02:00] <soundray> helloyo: is it possible that your monitor is broken? During installation, ubuntu uses VESA modes that should be available on all monitors.
[02:00] <Nox_ville> Vich... ill try help...
[02:00] <Vich> lol
[02:00] <Ellias> is anyone having issues trying to upgrade to edgy with apt-get? when i do apt-get dist-upgrade it finds zero new packages?
[02:00] <Vich> it's ok
[02:00] <Vich> I am learning
[02:00] <ubuntugrrrr> Oh darn....
[02:00] <soundray> !upgrade | Ellias
[02:00] <nalioth> hi ubuntugrrrr
[02:00] <livingdaylight> i'm having a Steve Ballmer moment here: "DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS!!..."
[02:00] <livingdaylight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhUAr-P_39U
[02:00] <ubuntugrrrr> I suppose this is a first come first serve kind of deal?
[02:00] <ubuntugrrrr> how long is the line? :/
[02:00] <pobstil> hey how can I find the install prefix of a program?
[02:00] <Vich> not really ubuntugrrrr
[02:00] <nalioth> ubuntugrrrr: just ask your question  :)
[02:00] <helloyo> soundray: i wouldn't say broken, maybe not the most compliant... in dapper this would happen and i could pres ctrl alt + and go into a mode that worked, is it possible to change the xorg.conf file in the live boot?
[02:01] <Vich> you just ask
[02:01] <livingdaylight> Long Live EDGY EFT!
[02:01] <boricua> i would like to stop the upgrade since it is slow how can i do that?
[02:01] <ubuntugrrrr> my question.. umm.
[02:01] <Vich> and if someone knows the answer they say it
[02:01] <ubuntugrrrr> how do i use the thing
[02:01] <Nox_ville> for BluetoothRemoteControl.... can i interface it with a program like SallingClicker?
[02:01] <livingdaylight> UBUNTU ROCKS!
[02:01] <Vich> if they don't
[02:01] <Vich> you get ignored
[02:01] <nalioth> boricua: there is really no way to safely stop it
[02:01] <SurfnKid> should have named this release WEDGY WEDGE
[02:01] <boricua> nalioth: that sucks
[02:01] <ubuntugrrrr> i know nothing about linux.. i have no idea how to install anything
[02:01] <pobstil> hey how can I find the install prefix of a program?
[02:01] <livingdaylight> THANKS TO THE DEVELOPERS AT CANONICAL and EVERYWHERE ELSE
[02:01] <boricua> nalioth: that sucks and its a serious bug in my opinion
[02:01] <ubuntugrrrr> and for some reason i cant login as root
[02:01] <Nox_ville> whoa.. check out how funny www.meatspin.com is ... its amazing
[02:01] <jbroome> !caps
[02:01] <LjL> !caps | livingdaylight
[02:01] <Ellias> is anyone having issues trying to upgrade to edgy with apt-get? when i do apt-get dist-upgrade it finds zero new packages?
[02:01] <nalioth> ubuntugrrrr: there is no root
[02:01] <ubuntugrrrr> and i know i used a password that I remember
[02:01] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrr: you can't log into root in ubuntuy
[02:01] <jbroome> ubuntugrrrr: something must be broken
[02:02] <nalioth> !tell ubuntugrrrr about sudo
[02:02] <speedy> after upgrading i got no sound
[02:02] <Nox_ville> Ellias: yes
[02:02] <livingdaylight> LjL, calm down :)
[02:02] <felipe__> Holas, alguien me puede dar el link para bajar el torrent del kubuntu edgy?
[02:02] <nalioth> jbroome: there is no root  /msg ubotu sudo
[02:02] <LjL> [01:51]  <-- ubotu has left this server (Excess Flood).
[02:02] <cafuego> boricua: If it's still only downloading, just cancel it ot hit ctrl-c. If it's installing packages and replacing software, you cannot stop it now.
[02:02] <Viper550> Flow_ville: NO NO NO! Not Meatspin, FTL!
[02:02] <felipe__> no lo encuentro en la pagina de downloads
[02:02] <ubuntugrrrr> ehhh
[02:02] <felipe__> solo hay el torrent para el dvd
[02:02] <ubuntugrrrr> oh and the main thing...
[02:02] <ubuntugrrrr> it wont let me access my 2nd hard drive
[02:02] <boricua> cafuego: using update-manager
[02:02] <Ellias> Nox_ville I dont suppose you have a fix?
[02:02] <ubuntugrrrr> it says its not removable and cannot be mounted
[02:02] <LjL> felipe: va en #ubuntu-es para hablar espaol por favor, aqui hablamos ingles
[02:02] <Viper550> I mean Nox_ville, sorry
[02:02] <Nox_ville> no..
[02:02] <cafuego> boricua: is is downloading still?
[02:02] <nalioth> ubuntugrrrr: did you get a private message from ubotu ?
[02:02] <soundray> Ellias: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades -- follow the apt-get instructions
[02:02] <dooglus> does someone know of a central europe ubuntu mirror which has the edgy repos please?
[02:02] <ubuntugrrrr> no I did not
[02:03] <boricua> cafuego: fetching
[02:03] <Viper550> but still. You will NOT like Meatspin. p.s. It won't even work without Flash! p.s.2. also cocks
[02:03] <nalioth> ubuntugrrrr: are you sure?
[02:03] <cafuego> boricua: Then yes, you can kill it.
[02:03] <soundray> dooglus: de.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:03] <helloyo> soundray: is there a boot command that will put me into 1280x960 mode?
[02:03] <boricua> cafuego: how
[02:03] <ubuntugrrrr> nalioth... there is no message anywhere on my screen from ubotu
[02:03] <ubuntugrrrr> i'm 100%sure
[02:03] <helloyo> soundray: or a way to change resolution when booted?
[02:03] <pobstil> hey how can I find the install prefix of a program?
[02:03] <soundray> helloyo: hold on...
[02:03] <cafuego> boricua: open system monitor and kill the upate process.
[02:03] <helloyo> soundray: thanks
[02:03] <|Sivik|> helloyo: you have to set up the xorg.conf to use that
[02:03] <dooglus> soundray: thanks.  that's close enough.
[02:03] <boricua> cafuego: i mean 5 hrs is to much
[02:03] <DJAdmiral> People, congratulations on a new Ubuntu release!
[02:04] <nalioth> ubuntugrrrr: i see.  please initiate a private message to ubotu and say "sudo" to it
[02:04] <cafuego> boricua: Seems a tad long, yes.
[02:04] <ryanakca> how do I create a 512mb swap file? dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=512       ?
[02:04] <cafuego> boricua: Hold on.
[02:04] <helloyo> |Sivik|: yeah, is there a way to do that with the live cd? change the xorg.conf, then restart the server?
[02:04] <gop_> !samba
[02:04] <wk> soundray: now i get errors while processing the x11-common package
[02:04] <cafuego> boricua: Is it possible it has already upgraded some stuff and is now doing more?
[02:04] <DJAdmiral> A very very happy day to all! :D
[02:04] <Mark1412> Quick question for anyone that can answer
[02:04] <ubuntugrrrr> does gaim lag horribly or what
[02:04] <nalioth> ubuntugrrrr: gaim is not the best irc client. perhaps you could try xchat or some other dedicated irc client
[02:04] <cafuego> ryanakca: yah
[02:04] <azureal> wow, that was a bit weird
[02:04] <Mark1412> What program burns .wma music onto a cd
[02:04] <gop_> !smbfs
[02:04] <ubuntugrrrr> well how am i supposed to do that
[02:04] <ubuntugrrrr> i have no idea how to install anything on here
[02:05] <livingdaylight> LjL, did you watch my youtube link?
[02:05] <wk> soundray: he tries to overwrite /usr/X11R6/bin or something and than seems to have an error
[02:05] <cafuego> ubuntugrrrr: Stsrem -> Administration -> Synaptic
[02:05] <nalioth> ubuntugrrrr: one question at a time  :)
[02:05] <pobstil> hey how can I find the install prefix of a program?
[02:05] <boricua> cafuego: i dont see update-maanger in system resources
[02:05] <Mark1412> What program burns .wma music onto a cd
[02:05] <DJAdmiral> Mark1412: Try Gnomebaker. Best you convert music using Audacity first.
[02:05] <|Sivik|> Mark1412: wma is not really a supported file for ubuntu  .ogg is the format that linux has when you rip from disc, you might try converting .wma to .ogg
[02:05] <nalioth> pobstil: can you ask your question in a different way? i don't understand what you are asking.
[02:05] <LjL> livingdaylight: don't have flash ;)
[02:05] <trafaelwyr> good evening all
[02:05] <cafuego> boricua: it'll be in the process list, but I have no idea what it would be called.
[02:05] <ubuntugrrrr> can I rip my hair out now
[02:05] <Mark1412> Djadmiral- audacity does not support .wma
[02:05] <ubuntugrrrr> or should I scalp myself first..
[02:05] <soundray> helloyo: not with vesafb, sorry. Only 1280x1024
[02:05] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrr: whats the current problem
[02:05] <cafuego> ubuntugrrrr: Of course, if you think it will help ;-)
[02:05] <Nyto-RJ> nite all
[02:05] <Mark1412> |sivik| what do you suggest i use to convert
[02:05] <Nyto-RJ> bye
[02:06] <livingdaylight> LjL, geez, so all you can notice is when someone types in capitals?
[02:06] <Nyto-RJ> thx for the helps
[02:06] <ubuntugrrrr> i've got so many problems I can barely remember everything I just listed
[02:06] <cin> Hey, I've got a laptop and I'm using it with a second screen only, when I modify my xorg.conf to use 1280x1024 resolution, it defaults to 1024 (I think because that is what my laptop's screen can do) and I can't seem to modify it with GNOME's screen resolution settings dialog.
[02:06] <ubuntugrrrr> a) my 2nd hard drive wont mount
[02:06] <cafuego> livingdaylight: SORRY, WHERE?
[02:06] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrr: first problem
[02:06] <nalioth> ubuntugrrrr: new things take time to learn
[02:06] <ubuntugrrrr> b) i dont know how to install anything
[02:06] <helloyo> soundray: ok, is there a way to shutdown the xserver off the live cd as i change the xorg.conf, then restart it?
[02:06] <livingdaylight> LjL, are you like a free software ideologist/fanatic?
[02:06] <wk> soundray: i have ssh access from the other pc (where i'm updating) to this pc here, i could copy the file with the outputs (but they are in german) - would it help u?
[02:06] <|Sivik|> cin: do you have the drivers install for the video card
[02:06] <livingdaylight> cafuego, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhUAr-P_39U
[02:06] <ubuntugrrrr> c) I really know nothing about ubuntu and i havent found a good learning source as of yet
[02:06] <LjL> livingdaylight, what is the problem? you wrote two messages in full capitals, you probably know it is not appreciated, i saw them, and i had ubotu warn you. end of story.
[02:06] <Dr_willis> ubuntugrrrr,  the answer to b) is synaptic.. unless you are refering to somthign specific.
[02:06] <nalioth> ubuntugrrrr: let's get you on an irc client that works a bit better, i think it'd be of help
[02:06] <pobstil> nalioth: well I'm trying to fix gtkpod, it always crashes with the error: tkpod: symbol lookup error: gtkpod: undefined symbol: itdb_device_set_mountpoint.
[02:06] <gop_> is the bot down
[02:07] <DJAdmiral> Mark1412: You tried installing w32codecs?
[02:07] <jbroome> !bot
[02:07] <cin> |Sivik|, what command can I use to find out what video card Linux recognises?
[02:07] <Dr_willis> ubuntugrrrr,  c)  tldp.org and the ubuntu homepage/wiki/forums
[02:07] <nalioth> pobstil: that is a compilation error, i suspect.
[02:07] <gop_> ! samba
[02:07] <DJAdmiral> !w32codecs
[02:07] <azureal> these upgrades always do that!
[02:07] <azureal> they reset nearly everything
[02:07] <livingdaylight> LjL, its a simple question
[02:07] <Mark1412> djadmiral
[02:07] <LjL> livingdaylight, are you trying to pick up a fight for some reason to me unknown? because it looks like so
[02:07] <Ellias> Soundray: thanks for your help, i mistakenly forgot to edit the sources.list file, which was why it wasnt upgrading ;)
[02:07] <Mark1412> no i havent
[02:07] <soundray> wk: yes, place them on the pastebin
[02:07] <Mark1412> can you help me out?
[02:07] <soundray> Ellias: I thought so
[02:07] <DJAdmiral> Mark1412: Sure can.
[02:07] <livingdaylight> LjL, lol, stop projecting
[02:07] <DJAdmiral> Mark1412: You registered on IRC?
[02:07] <LjL> livingdaylight, stop attacking.
[02:08] <Mark1412> djadmiral: whats IRC?
[02:08] <kevin1> Is there a way to change the color of tomboy notes?  I am not seeing and was wondering if I am overlooking it?
[02:08] <DJAdmiral> Mark1412: The Chat you're using right now.
[02:08] <Chippy> I'm trying to setup a nautilus script, but I can't seem to find how to run the script... I have a script in nautilus's script dir, and it is executable.  Can anyone help me out?
[02:08] <Dr_willis> ubuntugrrrr,   tldp.org  is a must check out site (and bookmark it) for learning linux.
[02:08] <Mark1412> DJAdmiral I think i am
[02:08] <soundray> helloyo: I don't know if that's possible. Maybe you can continue in the console with Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[02:08] <livingdaylight> LjL, i was celebrating, and sharing a funny moment with everyone. But you couldn't see it because you don't have flash nor a sense of humour on this day of celebration, BUt your mind could only see Capitals, lol
[02:08] <pobstil> nalioth: theres a fix here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103071&page=13 ,, but I'm not using ubuntu atm, so that fix isn't working for me
[02:08] <cin> |Sivik|, have you gone? :P
[02:08] <livingdaylight> LjL, stop trolling, ^^
[02:08] <nalioth> what are you using, pobstil ?
[02:08] <LjL> livingdaylight: take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic if you like to continue it.
[02:08] <|Sivik|> cin: no
[02:08] <helloyo> soundray: yeah, i can get into the console, just can't bring up the server again, well its there, just doesn't show anything
[02:08] <harisund> Hello everone! has anyone tried migrating thunderbird email profiles from Windows XP to Ubuntu thunderbird?
[02:08] <_ph00> so edgy is out
[02:08] <LjL> livingdaylight, you're trolling. stop.
[02:08] <cin> |Sivik|, what command can I use to find out what video card Linux recognises? D:
[02:08] <|Sivik|> cin: lspci
[02:08] <_ph00> cool
[02:08] <cin> |Sivik|, ah, thanks. :)
[02:09] <DJAdmiral> one sec Mark1412
[02:09] <helloyo> soundray: i'll try a couple things, thanks for your help
[02:09] <azureal> where would xterm errors appear?
[02:09] <|Sivik|> cin: yw
[02:09] <Ademan> does metacity support window groups?
[02:09] <soundray> helloyo: good luck, sorry I couldn't really help
[02:09] <cin> |Sivik|, bash: lscpi: command not found -- nooooo! :(
[02:09] <|Sivik|> cin: the reason why only a few resoluatoins is that you don't/probably don't have the drivers installed correctly for your video card
[02:09] <Mark1412> DJAdmiral ok
[02:09] <|Sivik|> cin: lspci
[02:09] <|Sivik|> cin: not lscpi
[02:09] <pobstil> nalioth: arch linux. they reaconed that libgpod is installed somewhere thats not in the library path or something, I don't really understand it..
[02:09] <cin> |Sivik|, d'oh. >_>
[02:09] <soundray> cin: try lspci
[02:09] <DJAdmiral> Mark1412: Is there a new tab in this chat window for you?
[02:09] <trafaelwyr> I've recently installed Ubuntu (going on a week now) - coming from Win2kPro - so this is all still quite new to me.  Anyways, I have a question:  how do you create a folder?
[02:10] <_ph00> the upgrade is just running dist-upgrade or should I set "edgy" intead of "dapper" in source.list first (if omething more/other than that, plz point me to a good howto)
[02:10] <cin> Got it. Eek. Big list.
[02:10] <nalioth> pobstil: why are you in #ubuntu asking? why not in #archlinux ?
[02:10] <kevin1> Is there a way to change the color of tomboy notes?  I am not seeing and was wondering if I am overlooking it?
[02:10] <DJAdmiral> trafaelwyr: In the terminal, or in the filebrowser?
[02:10] <|Sivik|> _ph00: you have to change the sources.list first
[02:10] <LjL> !upgrade  | _ph00
[02:10] <speedy> i lost sound after upgrading to edgy..
[02:10] <_ph00> then I do dist upgrade?
[02:10] <dooglus> soundray: that .de mirror is surprisingly fast, considering the recent release.  I'm surprised the .cz mirror is a week out of date though!
[02:10] <livingdaylight> nalioth, huh? i wasn't being disrespectful. Are you taking sides?
[02:10] <LjL> _ph00: look at the channel topic
[02:10] <Mark1412> DJAdmiral yes, im in it
[02:10] <aquarius> trafaelwyr: right-click and say Create Folder, or say File > Create Folder.
[02:10] <_ph00> k
[02:10] <cin> |Sivik|,  Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[02:10] <LjL> livingdaylight, *please*, take the discussion to -offtopic.
[02:10] <pobstil> nalioth: because noone in there uses gtkpod, and theres no mention of it in arch's forums, whereas there is in the ubuntu forums
[02:10] <|Sivik|> _ph00: change the sources.list file, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:10] <DJAdmiral> Mark1412: Are you getting my private messages then?
[02:10] <cin> |Sivik|, so should I search the forum for this model?
[02:10] <felipe> lots of felipes in here
[02:10] <Chippy> I'm trying to setup a nautilus script, but I can't seem to find how to run the script... I have a script in nautilus's script dir, and it is executable.  Can anyone help me out?
[02:11] <Mark1412> DJAdmiral: I was
[02:11] <Mark1412> DJAdmiral i got the first 2 you sent
[02:11] <|Sivik|> cin: that might be a good idea
[02:11] <trafaelwyr> DJAdmiral:  well, err...I guess the filebrowser?
[02:11] <nalioth> livingdaylight: you should join #ubuntu-offtopic as suggested please
[02:11] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  ya right click on omthing and it shows up under a menu there.
[02:11] <Ademan> chippy, run the nautilus script manager and enable it
[02:11] <jrib> Chippy: you should be able to right click in nautilus and have a scripts menu
[02:11] <|Sivik|> cin: try the ubuntuforums.org
[02:11] <_ph00> oh. there's a link to an upgrade howto
[02:11] <_ph00> OK
[02:11] <DJAdmiral> Mark1412: Can you message me back in there?
[02:11] <cin> |Sivik|, oki. :)
[02:11] <LjL> !traffic
[02:11] <Mark1412> DJAdmiral i did
[02:11] <DJAdmiral> trafaelwyr: Simply right click an empty area, and click new folder.
[02:11] <harisund> any ideas anyone?
[02:11] <ubotu> _ph00: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[02:11] <DJAdmiral> Mark1412: I'm not seeming to get any replies.
 _ph00: change the sources.list file, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <== OK then
[02:11] <ak70> hi, how can I add new locales to the system, by doing dpkg-reconfigure locales I can just regenerate the existing locales
[02:11] <_ph00> thx
[02:12] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, and join the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for your understanding!
[02:12] <DJAdmiral> Mark1412: Try messaging me again in that tab.
[02:12] <Mark1412> DJAdmiral ok
[02:12] <Chippy> Dr_willis, jrib: no script submenu
[02:12] <jrib> Chippy: what directory did you put it in exactly?
[02:12] <Ademan> chippy: nautilus-script-manager list-available and then nautilus-script-manager yourscriptname
[02:12] <Mark1412> DJAdmiral sent
[02:12] <rebelfallen> Guys it doesn't seem to matter what I do. I can't get dual monitors to work. I can get them to both display the SAME thing. So the monitors mirror each other but I don't want that I want a spanning desktop. Anyone know why it does this?
[02:12] <Chippy> jrib: ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[02:12] <DJAdmiral> Mark1412: Okay, not getting a thing. Looks like I will need to help you out through here. Give me a sec.
[02:13] <Ademan> rebelfallen: have you modified your xorg.conf? can you show us your xorg.conf?
[02:13] <soundray> rebelfallen: you need to look into xinerama and/or twinview
[02:13] <Vich> I did it again!
[02:13] <trafaelwyr> DJAdmiral:  right click where?
[02:13] <Chippy> Ademan: no nautilus-script-manager?
[02:13] <Mark1412> DJAdmiral ok. To make things easier, is there a program that will burn wma files? or must i use a codec
[02:13] <DJAdmiral> trafaelwyr: In any empty space in your file browser.
[02:13] <Ademan> Chippy: you don't have it? then you need to install the package, i believe thats the package name as well
[02:13] <rebelfallen> twinview eh hmm
[02:13] <soundray> wk: how are you getting on?
[02:14] <Ademan> does metacity support window groups?
[02:14] <DJAdmiral> Mark1412: No, wma is a commercial codec, and Ubuntu is free, so... you need to acquire the codec from a trusted 3rd party source.
[02:14] <tam> would there be any reason why .bash_profile wouldn't be doing its job correctly by sourcing the .bashrc file in my home dir?
[02:14] <Chippy> Ademan: alright, thanks
[02:14] <wk> soundray: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4638/
[02:14] <kirukera> server irc.webpool.de
[02:14] <aquarius> If I ran the upgrade manager to go to Edgy, and it broke halfway through, and I've now fixed the thing that caused it to break, should I run the update manager again to make it continue?
[02:14] <Mark1412> DJAdmiral: ok
[02:14] <Ademan> Chippy: no problem, hope it helps
[02:14] <speedy> mafeesh soot khales
[02:14] <|Sivik|> aquarius: that might be a good idea to try
[02:14] <DJAdmiral> ark1412: Don't worry, for you it'll still be free, but due to legal restrictions commercial codecs cannot be stored directly in Ubuntu CDs or repoes.
[02:14] <hss> how can i upgrade 6.06lts *
[02:15] <LjL> !upgrade > hss
[02:15] <hss> what is the true sources.list
[02:15] <wk> soundray: tell me if u need translations for certain things
[02:15] <soundray> wk: run 'sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb', then try again
[02:15] <pobstil> nalioth: because noone in there uses gtkpod, and theres no mention of it in arch's forums, whereas there is in the ubuntu forums
[02:15] <aquarius> |Sivik|: it can cope with picking up with a machine which is half upgraded?
[02:15] <nalioth> aquarius: yes
[02:15] <|thunder> hss 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' i think
[02:15] <DJAdmiral> Mark1412: This should be able to help you out. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:15] <Ademan> soundray: i had that error, it was a pain to get around, i can show you exactly what i did though
[02:15] <hss> i now but what is the true sources.list
[02:15] <|Sivik|> aquarius: probably
[02:15] <aquarius> |Sivik|: ok, will give it a try.
[02:15] <soundray> Ademan: which error? The font problem?
[02:16] <kevin1> Is there a way to change the color of tomboy notes?
[02:16] <Ademan> no x11-common
[02:16] <soundray> wk: danke, brauch ich nicht ;)
[02:16] <Ademan> OH wait, you were helping someone else lol
[02:16] <ubuntugrrrrr> Alright...
[02:16] <deema> how can I change my refresh rate? I tried system preferences, but it only shows 85 hz, my monitor supports 100hz
[02:16] <Ademan> man this channel is busy
[02:17] <Ademan> deema: your eye can only see 30hz anyways... lol
[02:17] <LjL> Ademan: new release, you know
[02:17] <Ademan> well technically
[02:17] <jrib> Chippy: you may need to reload nautilus (I just tried adding a script and had to close my nautilus and open it again for it to show up)
[02:17] <Mark1412> DJAdmiral Thanks alot
[02:17] <nalioth> !tell ubuntugrrrrr about sudo
[02:17] <deema> that's great
[02:17] <Munchkinguy> is there something like XF86Setup for ubuntu?
[02:17] <Tompu> deema: You're going to need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:17] <deema> I tried
[02:17] <Ademan> LjL: ?
[02:17] <Stormx2> Yeaaas! I am thinking I am loving edgy. My last attempts to get compiz installed ruined my system. This time I followed a howto, and it still didn't work. Luckily I just restored the backup of my xorg.conf file and i got back a fully functioning system! <3 ubuntu
[02:17] <deema> it didn't work
[02:17] <LjL> Munchkinguy: perhaps sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:17] <deema> can you hel?
[02:17] <deema> help
[02:17] <nalioth> !tell Munchkinguy about xcfg
[02:17] <wk> soundray: na toll und ich kram hier mhsam meine englisch kenntnisse zusammen ;) - aber scheint zu gehen... danke erstmal!
[02:17] <Chippy> Ademan: the script manager doesn't list the script I tried to add.  I put the script in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts, is that right?
[02:17] <Ademan> deema: what do you mean "you tried" ?
[02:17] <LjL> Ademan: i meant, there's a lot of traffic because there's a new ubuntu release out. mind you, there's always quite a bit of traffic, but now there's more
[02:17] <Tompu> deema: preface your messages with the name of the person you're talking to please
[02:18] <soundray> wk: back to English, or we could get kicked
[02:18] <nalioth> wk soundray /join #ubuntu-de bitte
[02:18] <Chippy> jrib: how do you reload nautilus?
[02:18] <Ademan> Chippy: hrm, i honestly don't know, i dunno what to tell you, maybe in ##gnome?
[02:18] <deema> ademan: I entered my monitor's horizontal and vertical frequency
[02:18] <Davey> I'm having issues with my software RAID, can anyone shed some light on this? http://hashphp.org/pastebin?pid=9100
[02:18] <Chu> If I wanted to essentially reinstall Edgy, should I reinstall ubuntu-desktop from synaptic?
[02:18] <Ademan> LjL: ah yes, well i generally idle in this channel :-)
[02:18] <jrib> Chippy: I just closed nautilus and opened it again, but I am reading on the g-scripts faq that you can just navigate with nautilus to the scripts directory and it should detect them
[02:18] <trafaelwyr> DJAdmiral:  hmm....how about in the terminal.  you see, I have 2 hdd - a 40gb and a 250gb (this one I have to tinker with as it's the slave drive - ntfs).  the 40gb is where I have Ubuntu installed.  how would I create a folder there?
[02:18] <Ma1> could anyone give me a clue how can I make my own font ?
[02:18] <mike> when i run gksu "update-manager -c" and clicked upgrade i got this error :"Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/Release.gpg Temporary failure resolving packages.freecontrib.org" is there a way to fix this?
[02:19] <Ademan> Chu: i dunno if reinstalling one package reinstalls all packages it depends on...
[02:19] <Chippy> jrib: how do you navigate with nautilus (I saw that too, but had no idea how)
[02:19] <nalioth> mike: freecontrib is not offical, and they are down atm
[02:19] <deema> Tompu, can you help
[02:19] <DJAdmiral> trafaelwyr: Try to create a folder in your Home folder.
[02:19] <Tompu> deema: what did you try?
[02:19] <deema> I entered my monitor's horizontal and vertical frequency
[02:19] <jrib> Chippy: just press ctrl-l to get the location address bar and type in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts and press enter
[02:19] <Tompu> deema: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[02:19] <AbortD> how do i dist upgrade?
[02:19] <deema> tompu, yes
[02:20] <Chu> Well, would you know of a way to do it? I'd rather like to reinstall somehow... :p
[02:20] <LjL> !upgrade > abortd
[02:20] <nalioth> AbortD: did you not get a PM from ubotu ?
[02:20] <Tompu> deema: what graphics card are you using
[02:20] <soundray> Ma1: you need a font editor, e.g. fontforge. It's a *lot* of work if you want to do it right.
[02:20] <AbortD> nope i got him on ignore
[02:20] <Munchkinguy> nalioth: and this will allow me to reconfigure my graphics card and stuff like that?
[02:20] <AbortD> i want the command
[02:20] <AbortD> thats all
[02:20] <LjL> AbortD: ah, good.
[02:20] <deema> tompu, Nvidia GF2
[02:20] <nalioth> AbortD: then you suffer in your ignorance.
[02:20] <wk> okok soundrays tipp seems to work, the upgrade is going on
[02:20] <trafaelwyr> DJAdmiral:  well, when I double click on that, it shows me the folder I created (titled music).
[02:20] <nalioth> Munchkinguy: yes
[02:20] <Ademan> Chu: hrm, i honestly don't know, why do yo uwant to reinstall? whats not working?
[02:20] <AbortD> go fuck your self
[02:20] <jrib> !language | AbortD
[02:20] <ubotu> AbortD: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:20] <DJAdmiral> trafaelwyr: Good then!
[02:20] <aSt3raL> is there an upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 out?
[02:21] <jrib> aSt3raL: yes, see the topic :)
[02:21] <nalioth> aSt3raL: there is. just out today
[02:21] <Chippy> jrib: awesome, that did it.  thanks :)
[02:21] <DJAdmiral> trafaelwyr: Don't try to create folders outside of your home folder.
[02:21] <jrib> Chippy: cool, np
[02:21] <Tompu> deema: are you using the NV or nvidia driver?
[02:21] <DJAdmiral> trafaelwyr: Your home folder is meant for all your documents.
[02:21] <trafaelwyr> DJAdmiral:  no?  so, I don't want to create a folder where Local Drive is?
[02:21] <deema> Tompu: no idea
[02:21] <tam> can anyone explain why my .bash_profile doesn't get read?
[02:21] <|Sivik|> deema: you installed the drivers from apt-get correct
[02:21] <tam> i have options specified in it and they never appear to work..
[02:21] <Ma1> Hey, anyone know anything on how to make a font ?
[02:21] <deema> I just did a fresh install of Edgy
[02:22] <Chu> Ademan: I'm not getting any sort of boot messages after grub or when I shut the machine down, so I guess I should just reintall THOSE packages. But I have no idea which ones affect that... :p
[02:22] <|Sivik|> deema: then you probably haven't install the nvidia-glx files
[02:22] <DJAdmiral> trafaelwyr: No, that's meant for system.
[02:22] <ubuntugrrrrr> I'm lost....
[02:22] <|Sivik|> !nvidia
[02:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:22] <soundray> tam: it gets read only when you start a login shell. Configure everything in .bashrc instead
[02:22] <|Sivik|> follow that howto deema
[02:22] <deema> okay, thanks
[02:22] <DJAdmiral> trafaelwyr: It prevents people from messing things up
[02:22] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrrr: whats the problem this time?
[02:22] <Tompu> deema: search your xorg.conf for a line that says either Driver "nv" or Driver "nvidia"
[02:22] <Ademan> Chu: what do you mean boot messages? like "mounting root file system" and whatnot? i'm pretty sure they removed those...
[02:22] <ubuntugrrrrr> I am attempting to setup the script "Automatically MountPartitions" however, its asking me something about ntfs support.
[02:22] <soundray> wk: is it working for you now?
[02:22] <ubuntugrrrrr> the file system on that drive is NTFS, so do i need to enable that?
[02:22] <Chu> Ademan: I thought they replaced it. I'm getting absolutely nothing now.
[02:22] <ubuntugrrrrr> it reccommends that I do not enable it...
[02:22] <Tompu> deema: you need to use the legacy nvidia driver, not the standard drivers
[02:23] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrrr: if it is ntfs, then say yes, if not, say no
[02:23] <trafaelwyr> DJAdmiral:  ah, ok.  so, when I download something, say from bittorrent, I'll be able to save to that folder as an option?
[02:23] <ubuntugrrrrr> okay thank you...
[02:23] <nalioth> ubuntugrrrrr: that is correct. you should mount your ntfs drives 'read-only' for date safety
[02:23] <v1per> wow..
[02:23] <Ademan> Chu: you don't get any text? or does the ubuntu logo not show? or both?
[02:23] <deema> Tompu, I will try that, thanks
[02:23] <Ademan> Chu: cause i don't get text either, i think you're not supposed to
[02:24] <|Sivik|> deema: did you look at the link i told you to look at, about the HowTo
[02:24] <Chu> I don't get _anything_. I thought they replaced it with a ubuntu logo or something.
[02:24] <wk> soundray: it seems so, he is unpacking all the packages now, and has now correctly created the bin link in usr/X11R6/ ... but i don't believe there won't appear other errors ;)
[02:24] <speedy> how can i get the sound working on edgy eft? it was working on dapper, but after the upgrade there is no sound..
[02:24] <ubuntugrrrrr> hmm.. I'm not sure if it worked..
[02:24] <Draconicus> I've moved a hard drive with Ubuntu on it from one machine to another. Now I can't pull up dhcp with ifup because it gives a "no such device" error for eth0 (and there's no new eth interface). What should I do?
[02:24] <DJAdmiral> trafaelwyr: Yes you will be able to.
[02:24] <ubuntugrrrrr> this is the message that I just received:
[02:24] <|Sivik|> Draconicus: you have to go into network-admin and add the new hardware
[02:24] <nalioth> ubuntugrrrrr: please don't paste in here
[02:24] <DJAdmiral> Well anyway guys, I'm off to upgrade my Ubuntu
[02:24] <DJAdmiral> Ciao people!
[02:24] <ubuntugrrrrr> well.. where can I paste then?
[02:24] <Ademan> Chu: reinstall or install the usplash package
[02:25] <trafaelwyr> DJAdmiral:  ah, cool!  :-)  thanks for your help.  I'm sooo new to Linux and it's gonna take me awhile.  thanks for your help!
[02:25] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrrr: why can't you just do mount -t ntfs /dev/hd (sd) /whereyouwant/itmounted
[02:25] <nalioth> ubuntugrrrrr: type /topic and read about the pastebin or /msg ubotu paste
[02:25] <soundray> wk: well, you can always come back here or to #ubuntu-de if you can't fix them yourself.
[02:25] <ubuntugrrrrr> I dont know all these commands
[02:25] <DJAdmiral> trafaelwyr: I was new to linux only about 1.5 years ago
[02:25] <Chu> Ademan: I tried that a bit back, but it didn't help then. I might as well try again, though. :p
[02:25] <ubuntugrrrrr> i am new you know...
[02:25] <nalioth> |Sivik|: ubuntugrrrrr is new to linux
[02:25] <hss> why i cant dist-upgrade
[02:25] <wk> soundray: ok thank you!
[02:25] <Ademan> Chu: interesting... well i can only reccomend trying again :-)
[02:25] <hss> Reading package lists... Done
[02:25] <hss> Reading package lists... Done
[02:25] <hss> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:25] <hss> Calculating upgrade...Done
[02:25] <hss> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:25] <DJAdmiral> trafaelwyr: Don't worry, soon, you shall be an Ubuntu expert like all of us :D
[02:25] <hss> Reading package lists... Done
[02:25] <Ademan> hss: whats your errror?
[02:25] <ubuntugrrrrr> brb...
[02:25] <hss> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:25] <hss> Calculating upgrade...Done
[02:26] <DJAdmiral> !flood
[02:26] <hss> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:26] <hss> hss@hss-desktop:~$
[02:26] <dutchy> I just upgraded from dapper to edgy and now Xorg/Gnome wont start, in the error it mentions it cant open /dev/nvidia0 ...does anyone know what i should do to fix this? i tried setting the driver back from "nvidia" to "nv" but that gave the same error
[02:26] <DJAdmiral> hss
[02:26] <DJAdmiral> STOP
[02:26] <hss> ok sry
[02:26] <DJAdmiral> Don't flood the channel
[02:26] <DJAdmiral> use the pastebin
[02:26] <nalioth> !tell hss about paste
[02:26] <ubuntugrrrrr> now I have another error.
[02:26] <ubuntugrrrrr> mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'
[02:26] <trafaelwyr> DJAdmiral:  thanks for the support.  I quite like Ubuntu.  Win2k just got me to the point of irritation.
[02:26] <ubuntugrrrrr> what shall I do now?
[02:26] <tam> soundray: even if i am running a lot of shells via screen? sorry am not too familiar with all this stuff..
[02:26] <Tompu> dutchy: have you upgraded your nvidia modules?
[02:26] <DJAdmiral> trafaelwyr: Lol - anyway
[02:26] <DJAdmiral> Off to go
[02:26] <nalioth> ubuntugrrrrr: did you follow ubotus directions about /msg ubotu fuse?
[02:26] <DJAdmiral> Ciao!
[02:27] <ubuntugrrrrr> I didnt see any!
[02:27] <omg_m1ke> Hi. I have recently installed Vista RC1 onto a reformatted laptop, and today installed Ubuntu onto a another partition. However, the GRUB loader screen doesn't include a Vista/Win option. How do i go abouts changing this?
[02:27] <Tompu> dutchy: you have a different kernel now, so you need new modules
[02:27] <ubuntugrrrrr> what directions??
[02:27] <|Sivik|> omg_m1ke: you have to add it manuelly
[02:27] <Seq> does anybody have an issue with evolution not working after viewing an HTML email?
[02:27] <jolt> Just finished doing a update install that took all day and now im having problems with Edgy barfing over the Samba package...
[02:27] <dutchy> Tompu: how would i do that?
[02:27] <soundray> tam, yes, screen shouldn't make a difference
[02:27] <Draconicus> |Sivik|: It's Xubuntu...
[02:27] <Chu> Ademan: Hmm, would it be any worse to remove and install? I think I'd like to see if it works if it downloads the package now.
[02:27] <omg_m1ke> Sivik - How?
[02:27] <Draconicus> What's the non-graphical way? :P
[02:27] <DigitalNinja> I'm trying to get my nvidia card working. I have the nvidia driver installed. How do I know if if i'm using agpgart?
[02:27] <omg_m1ke> Sivik - is there a tutorial you know of?
[02:27] <|Sivik|> Draconicus: then insall it
[02:28] <tam> soundray: hmm, i've specified a PATH and just logged in / out and tested it and it still isn't behaving
[02:28] <jolt> I cant get it to uninstall the samba package, or install the new one...
[02:28] <Draconicus> |Sivik|: Install what?
[02:28] <|Sivik|> Draconicus: network-admin
[02:28] <soundray> tam: what behaviour are you trying to configure?
[02:28] <Draconicus> |Sivik|: That'd be easier if I HAD A NETWORK. :P
[02:28] <ubuntugrrrrr> i'm sorry but I'm totally lost here...
[02:28] <mike> i have a folder with pictures in it some pictures are in 2 folders.. like a picture of me in traveling would be located under "mike" and under "travel"...is there an easy way to find all of the dulplicate files and make it so that there is only one hard link to the files.  thus redusing the space to store them?
[02:29] <ubuntugrrrrr> talk about something making you feel stupid...
[02:29] <tam> soundray: i basically want all shells (interactive or not) to display colours, export the correct PS1 instructions and the correct paths
[02:29] <|Sivik|> Draconicus: well, there should be to set up your network hardward
[02:29] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrrr: ok, what are you trying to do
[02:29] <ubuntugrrrrr> I'm trying to mount this drive....
[02:29] <dutchy> Tompu: you dont mean upgrading nvidia-glx, do you? my nvidia-glx is the latest version
[02:29] <tam> soundray: i have 3 lines in my .bashrc and they seem to be correct
[02:29] <ubuntugrrrrr> its ntfs
[02:29] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrrr: ok, just use mount
[02:30] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrrr: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/youwantmounted /location/tomount
[02:30] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrrr: its not that difficult
[02:30] <Westman> Has anybody tried Ubuntu on the PPC architecture?
[02:30] <soundray> tam: what do you get from 'ls -l ~/.bashrc'
[02:30] <soundray> ?
[02:30] <ubuntugrrrrr> are you new????
[02:30] <nalioth> Westman: lots of us
[02:30] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrrr: who, me?  hell no
[02:30] <ubuntugrrrrr> i doubt it..
[02:30] <ubuntugrrrrr> okay then
[02:30] <nalioth> ubuntugrrrrr: we are trying to help you in our own ways.
[02:30] <ubuntugrrrrr> I'm sorry here.. but i am *very* new
[02:30] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrrr: did you even try that
[02:30] <little-eye> hello
[02:30] <ubuntugrrrrr> I dont understand...
[02:30] <tam> soundray: -rwxr-xr-x 1 tam users 80 2006-10-27 01:27 .bashrc
[02:30] <nalioth> |Sivik|: ubuntugrrrrr is brand new to *nix
[02:31] <ubuntugrrrrr> when you give me these /dev/youwantmounted/location/tomount
[02:31] <ubuntugrrrrr> i dont know what to substitute for what you told me
[02:31] <mike> i know i could write a script to do it but i am to scared to acidently remove all my pictures?!? :(
[02:31] <|Sivik|> ok, /dev/hdb (if ide) /dev/sda,b,c or whatever if sata
[02:31] <Westman> nalioth: How is the port performing on the PPC? even though I've got Mac OS X w/ Darwin, it'd be sure nice to know
[02:31] <|Sivik|> what kind of harddrive is it
[02:31] <little-eye> I accidently installed the wrong version of automatix2, and now I want to unistall it, it doesnt show up in adept though.. any help how I can unistall it?
[02:31] <ubuntugrrrrr> I believe it is umm... hdb
[02:31] <ubuntugrrrrr> slave drive.
[02:31] <LjL> !automatix > little-eye
[02:31] <|Sivik|> little-eye: how did you install it
[02:31] <nalioth> Westman: i've been using PPC Ubuntu for almost 2 years, it works great
[02:32] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrrr: ok, sudo mkdir /media/extra, then sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media.extra
[02:32] <soundray> tam: can you put .bashrc on the pastebin pls
[02:32] <little-eye> following the instructions from their page, but I installed the edgy version and im still in dapper
[02:32] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrrr: ok, sudo mkdir /media/extra, then sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/extra*
[02:32] <ubuntugrrrrr> oookay....
[02:32] <ubuntugrrrrr> I'll try that.
[02:32] <tam> soundray: sure
[02:32] <|Sivik|> little-eye: you have to reboot the computer in order to get into edgy
[02:32] <little-eye> okay .. I did a apt-get dist upgrade
[02:33] <|Sivik|> ok
[02:33] <little-eye> thaqnks
[02:33] <cafuego> |Sivik|: Not quite, logging out, restarting X and logging in works too.
[02:33] <ubuntugrrrrr> ummmm..
[02:33] <DarqFiber> anyone had luck with a dell truemobile 1400 (bcm4309) ?
[02:33] <|Sivik|> cafuego: how does that change your kernel that your currently running
[02:33] <ubuntugrrrrr> |Sivik| This did not work.
[02:33] <|Sivik|> DarqFiber: try bcm-users
[02:33] <cafuego> (though you'll stay on the old kernel and closed source gfx drivers might break)
[02:33] <DarqFiber> thanks
[02:33] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrrr: what was the error that came out
[02:33] <dooglus> |Sivik|: it doesn't.  you need to reboot to run the edgy kernel
[02:33] <ubuntugrrrrr> mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'
[02:33] <ubuntugrrrrr> oops
[02:33] <ubuntugrrrrr> thats not it.. hold on
[02:34] <Westman> Nalioth: Since i'm too lazy to read a man page right now, what's the best way to alias ls -alfG in the BASH shell?
[02:34] <cafuego> However, a kernel does not a distro make.
[02:34] <ubuntugrrrrr> mount  special device sdb1 does not exist
[02:34] <nalioth> Westman: not sure what alfg is
[02:34] <|Sivik|> cafuego: i know that, but in order to run a different kernel, you have to reboot the machine
[02:34] <dooglus> Westman:    alias i-am-too-lazy-to-remember-flags='ls -alfG'
[02:34] <ubuntugrrrrr> its hdb, however.. I tried that as well and got an error too
[02:34] <cafuego> |Sivik|: Most machines, yes.
[02:34] <soundray> What change in edgy makes the fonts appear so much worse in gnome-terminal and firefox? Or am I the only one experiencing that?
[02:35] <Westman> G shows directory items and files in color, alf expands the output
[02:35] <aleka> On average, how long should it take to fetch packages while upgrading from dapper to edghy ( on a cable connection)??
[02:35] <|Sivik|> soundray: maybe cause you didn't reinstall the video drivers
[02:35] <|Sivik|> aleka: depends on how slow the repos are
[02:35] <boricua> !paste
[02:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:35] <cafuego> aleka: In between 15 minutes and 2 days.
[02:35] <Qew> omg_m1ke: tried ubuntuforums.org? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271335&highlight=windows+grub
[02:35] <Westman> LOL Doog.. I should be lazy enough to type all that if I posted it, i guess
[02:35] <slinky_> hello, i added a new hard drive, but it can only be accessed by root, any way to change permission to allow access
[02:35] <soundray> |Sivik|: I'm on plain old xorg ati
[02:35] <tam> soundray: http://pastebin.ca/223619 i've put in .bashrc and .bash_prpfile
[02:35] <dooglus> Westman: just type i- and hit tab...
[02:35] <|Sivik|> ubuntugrrrrr: do you have more than one parition on the slave disc?
[02:35] <dutchy> I just upgraded to edgy and xorg/gnome wont load, saying it cant open /dev/nvidia0 --- lsmod says the nvidia module is loaded and xorg.conf appears to be correct, does anyone know what i could do?
[02:35] <MarcN> aleka: today? Probably more than a hour.  Heavy load on the servers right now.
[02:36] <ubuntugrrrrr> I highly doubt it.
[02:36] <|Sivik|> dutchy: you have to reinstall the drivers
[02:36] <ubuntugrrrrr> its just a bunch of videos and music.
[02:36] <cafuego> dutchy: did you reboot?
[02:36] <aleka> ok..mine's been chuggin along for abt 2 hrs now and 2 remaining... was just worried
[02:36] <CientificoLoco> jrib, hello
[02:36] <MarcN> aleka: probably closer to a few hours for a standard upgrade.      (I got in early and all upgraded ;-)
[02:36] <|Sivik|> aleka: thats because god and everyone is upgrading so their slower than crap
[02:36] <tam> soundray: so you know, that paste was from inside a screen
[02:36] <dutchy> yes i rebooted...
[02:36] <Westman> slinky: You'll need to use the CHmod command
[02:36] <|Sivik|> dutchy: you have to reinstall the drivers
[02:36] <dutchy> |Sivik|: ill try it
[02:36] <jolt> It took me all day to get the update to edgy
[02:36] <nalioth> aleka: today the servers are being hammered, so everything is slow
[02:36] <boricua> cafuego: i think it was not a good idea to stop it now when i try i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28538/
[02:36] <|Sivik|> dutchy: follow the nvidia howto
[02:36] <|Sivik|> !nvidia
[02:37] <jrib> CientificoLoco: hi
[02:37] <aleka> and how safe is it to have apps open like firefox and xchat while process is running ( at wht pt should I close all apps)
[02:37] <jolt> now when it rebooted. i keep having a package error with Samba and cant remove it, or install the new one
[02:37] <boricua> can someone help i stoped a previous upgrade due to speed and now when i run upgrade i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28538/
[02:37] <slinky_> Westman, thanks
[02:37] <nalioth> aleka: you can run what you like while the upgrade is running
[02:37] <Westman> doog: so ' i- ' is aliased to what?
[02:37] <|Sivik|> aleka, it really doesn't matter as long as you have the bandwidth
[02:37] <CientificoLoco> jrib, I have a big problem with my firefox. see
[02:37] <cafuego> boricua: On the commandline, 'sudo aptitude dist-upgrade'
[02:37] <jrib> CientificoLoco: just let the channel know what your problem is and if someone can help, they will try
[02:37] <nalioth> boricua: follow the instructions on the first line  :)
[02:38] <MarcN> aleka: sudo apt-get -dy dist-upgrade  (and come back in a few hours and do:    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade)
[02:38] <dooglus> Westman: i-am-too-lazy-t(etc) is aliased to 'ls -(whatever the flags were - I'm too lazy to remember them)'
[02:38] <boricua> i dont see where i can mark that
[02:38] <Westman> slinky: from a terminal, type ' man chmod '... you'll need to know the specific files to modify, tho
[02:38] <aleka> not worried abt sharing bandwidth with the d/l... just wanted to know at wht point it gets to upgrading firefox..
[02:38] <|Sivik|> boricua: do it from command line
[02:38] <soundray> tam: does it pick up the variables when you run '. ~/.bashrc
[02:38] <cafuego> boricua: On the commandline, 'sudo aptitude dist-upgrade'
[02:38] <dooglus> Westman: when you type i- and hit tab, bash will fill in the rest of the alias's name
[02:38] <soundray> tam: does it pick up the variables when you run '. ~/.bashrc' inside the screen?
[02:38] <nalioth> boricua: in a console, use the command starting with "sudo"
[02:38] <tam> soundray: it does when i do source .bashrc
[02:38] <tam> soundray: sh-3.1$ source .bashrc
[02:38] <tam> tam@lovelace:~$ ls
[02:38] <Westman> ahh, cute, I like it, DOOG :)
[02:39] <aleka> Does Edgy come with "quite" mode on boot??
[02:39] <itsx> hellou:) i want to install pymol package from Synaptic but synaptic wants to remove vim ubuntu -base ubuntu-minimal packages etc is it necessery?
[02:39] <finalbeta> rofl, check out vino in combination with fglrx, anyone who has fglrx with vino (remote desktop) and can confirm what I'm seeing here? http://librarian.launchpad.net/4937646/Screenshot-VNC%3A%20LibVNCServer.png
[02:39] <shira> how do I set up a seperate /home/ partition in gparted? I'm still in the LiveCD
[02:39] <soundray> tam: only then, or also if you do the dot thing?
[02:39] <LjL> aleka: yes
[02:39] <slinky_> Westman, any idea of what those files are mount is /media/storage on dha1
[02:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:39] <tam> soundray: it works both ways.
[02:39] <CientificoLoco> yesterday I installed the last version of firefox 2.0 ( I downloaded the tar packege and I did tar -xzvf fir... ; then just I did cd firefox and run ./firefox) but the firefox I have opened was the 1.5 not 2.0 and I did the steps we did when I had the problem with java) so I hav einstalled two
[02:39] <aleka> Solarion, if I want want to see the boot process, as it did in dapper... do I have to change things in grub??
[02:39] <CientificoLoco> firefox in my laptop and I do not have idea to do."
[02:39] <trousers_> ubotu: How do you find out what gfx you are using?
[02:40] <v1per> lool what's wrong w/ ff on your laptop?
[02:40] <thrice`> trousers_, he's a bot :_
[02:40] <Westman> Speaking of permissions, can anybody recommend a good book or tutorial on essential Unix permissions, meaning what directories/files should be protected from USER:group:world context?  eg.  drwxr--r--
[02:40] <jrib> CientificoLoco: you are currently running dapper, correct?
[02:40] <tam> soundray: its strange. i dont have that problem with any other systems.
[02:40] <v1per> could someone help me troubleshoot a weird xterm error? after upgrading it wouldnt start and kinda scared me =P
[02:40] <CientificoLoco> jrib, yeah
[02:41] <trousers_> thrice`: :o How then? :P
[02:41] <marthy> so who likes edgy?
[02:41] <|Sivik|> v1per: try sudo apt-get remove xterm then sudo apt-get install xterm to see if that fixes it
[02:41] <deema> I like.. so far
[02:41] <jrib> CientificoLoco: if you wish to upgrade to edgy (the latest release of ubuntu), you will get firefox 2.0 through the repositories
[02:41] <v1per> |Sivik|, yea, i've already dried it
[02:41] <v1per> tried*
[02:41] <Westman> My point: to determine how to properly lock down my system.  but i'm guessing that Ubuntu by default comes with a strong permission set
[02:41] <CientificoLoco> edgy is the lastest version of ubuntu?
[02:41] <marthy> yeah
[02:41] <soundray> tam: it certainly is. Do you get it with other users on the same system?
[02:41] <talldave> hello i have just had problems upgrading to 6.10 and have left myself with a xserver error, I can start in Failsafe Gnome but not in my normal session
[02:41] <deema> came out today
[02:41] <jrib> CientificoLoco: yes, released today
[02:41] <Dr_willis> Westman,  check out tldp.org for fundamental linux guides. :)
[02:42] <trousers_> Ahh, both my Edgy's have finished downloading, now to install everything :)
[02:42] <|Sivik|> talldave: what video card?
[02:42] <Westman> Thanx, Dr_willis :)
[02:42] <marthy> talldave, i havent had anything yet, i am currently updating
[02:42] <tam> soundray: not sure. never queried the other users. i relaly should. theres around 10 of us on this colo box..
[02:42] <dooglus> tam: are you sure the .bashrc is in your home directory?
[02:42] <tam> dooglus: yup
[02:42] <talldave> nvidia
[02:42] <kitche> Westman: there is many books out there just do a search
[02:42] <dooglus> tam: ls -l ~/.bashrc   ?
[02:42] <|Sivik|> talldave: you have to redownload and install the nvidia drivers for edgy
[02:42] <CientificoLoco> oh my god... eeee
[02:43] <tam> dooglus: yup, was just gonna paste that in
[02:43] <soundray> dooglus: we've been through that
[02:43] <v1per> |Sivik|, http://pastebin.ca/223635 if you feel like looking at it
[02:43] <talldave> ok
[02:43] <marthy> uht oh, i had better check into those nvidea drives
[02:43] <talldave> i shal start looking
[02:43] <|Sivik|> v1per: just remove and reinstall it
[02:43] <Westman> DR_willis: Just checked out the URL, i see a nice tutorial guide.  Just what i was looking for, thanx
[02:43] <RogerBacon> anybody here can tell me if is a good idea to clean cache of apt when ubuntu updating to 6.10 (now installing)
[02:43] <dooglus> soundray: what he pasted couldn't have been the outout of the command you asked him to run
[02:43] <v1per> "glibc detected" is that a bad thing?
[02:43] <tam> soundray: dooglus: the perms etc are all OK. which is the weird thing
[02:43] <wobbler> Falcon: hi
[02:43] <v1per> |Sivik|, yea, i've already tried that =/
[02:43] <soundray> dooglus: we've been through that much earlier
[02:43] <CientificoLoco> jrib, what does "version supported" mean?
[02:43] <|Sivik|> v1per: ok, let me look at it
[02:44] <soundray> tam: is there a weird shell entry in /etc/passwd? Try 'grep tam /etc/passwd'
[02:44] <jrib> CientificoLoco: where did you read that?
[02:44] <tam> soundray: dooglus: to be honest, i think its a screen problem.
[02:44] <cin> How can I list what screens I have available? I'm trying to get my laptop to use an external monitor by default.
[02:44] <v1per> |Sivik|, this is what happened after i ran xterm&
[02:44] <CientificoLoco> jrib, http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[02:44] <tam> soundray: nope, but it doesn't specify a shell in there for me. maybe i should set one
[02:44] <Fracture> hi, is it possible to install a server from the alternative install cd ?
[02:45] <v1per> |Sivik|, i think the key is in the very first line "glibc detected" ... but..
[02:45] <RogerBacon> anybody here can tell me if is a good idea to clean cache of apt when ubuntu updating to 6.10 (now installing)
[02:45] <G0oW> Can someone please tell me where to get csm...i keep getting "Depends: csm (>=0.5) but it is not installable"
[02:45] <soundray> tam: that might help.
[02:45] <soundray> tam: so you don't get this problem outside of screen?
[02:45] <|Sivik|> v1per: not sure, i haven't ever had an error with glib and xterm
[02:45] <dooglus> tam: try an "echo hello tam >> ~/.bashrc"
[02:45] <v1per> |Sivik|, it keeps going w/ some more memory things and then finally says it was aborted
[02:45] <dooglus> tam: then start a new terminal window.  does it say hello?  and make a new screen, again, see hello?
[02:45] <|Sivik|> v1per: not sure
[02:45] <slinky_> Westman: drive is /dev/hda1 mount path is /media/storage, i want to be able to use drive the same way i use my primary drive
[02:46] <RogerBacon> anybody here can tell me if is a good idea to clean cache of apt when ubuntu updating to 6.10 (now installing)
[02:46] <jrib> CientificoLoco: I don't see that there, but dapper is long term support and edgy is the most recent
[02:46] <DBO> RogerBacon, no there is no need or advantage of doing so
[02:46] <soundray> okay then dooglus, you can take over
[02:46] <dooglus> RogerBacon: it's not a good idea.  the cache is where the packages are downloaded to.  they're needed while installing
[02:46] <Westman> slinky: meaning?
[02:46] <seamus7> Anyone having problems with packages.freecontrib.org when updating???
[02:46] <tam> soundray: nope, it all works outside screen pefectly
[02:46] <Westman> slinky: how are things different?
[02:46] <CientificoLoco>       Ubuntu 6.10, the newest Ubuntu release: If you would like to benefit from the latest Ubuntu features, this is the release for you
[02:46] <CientificoLoco>     *
[02:46] <CientificoLoco>       Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, Ubuntu with long-term support: Choose this to benefit from the long support life-cycle of the 6.06 LTS release. This version is supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 years on servers.
[02:46] <shira> is a seperate /boot/ partition required? if so, how big should it be?
[02:47] <LjL> !paste > CientificoLoco
[02:47] <slinky_> westman: could you tell me what chmod cammand to enter and if it needs sudo?
[02:47] <Dr_willis> shira,  no its not.. and 100mb would be HUGE for one. :)
[02:47] <G0oW> Can someone please tell me where to get csm...i keep getting "Depends: csm (>=0.5) but it is not installable"
[02:47] <soundray> tam: do you have a ~/.screenrc
[02:47] <jrib> CientificoLoco: yes, support means the official team provides security updates for the packages
[02:47] <roler> this ubuntu upgrade is terribly slow :(
[02:47] <Westman> DrW: Shouldn't a boot partition size be only like 5-10 megabytes max?
[02:47] <shira> dr_willis: thanks
[02:47] <dooglus> tam, can you try what I suggested?
[02:48] <tam> dooglus: soundray: very strange happenings...i've got a pastebin coming
[02:48] <Lathiat> Westman: i tned to make them at least 64-128M
[02:48] <psusi> no, /boot needs to be at least 20-30 megs
[02:48] <Dr_willis> Westman,  depends.  i normally made mine 50mb.. but dont even bother any more
[02:48] <Westman> anyway, why mess with that? just let the installer handle it.
[02:48] <RogerBacon> dooglus : only 250 mb left on the ubuntu partition ...
[02:48] <JoseStefan> back
[02:48] <Lathiat> Westman: cus after you get a few kernel upgrades space gets tight and can cause upgrades to fail, etc
[02:48] <psusi> preferably 50+
[02:48] <roler> is there a way to change the download servers to get these files quicker?
[02:48] <tam> dooglus: soundray: http://pastebin.ca/223645
[02:48] <marthy> roler, try a mirror from another country
[02:48] <shira> alirght thanks
[02:48] <jrib> CientificoLoco: do you understand now?
[02:48] <Westman> hmm, guess i've been out of the loop for awhile, PSU.  why is it necessary for it to be so large, e.g. what's being held there specifically
[02:48] <CientificoLoco> jrib,  to install it is a good idea? what do you thing ... is a trial version?
[02:49] <livingdaylight> Does anyone know whether we still not assign a different wallpaper per workspace?
[02:49] <roler> marty is that changed in sources.list?
[02:49] <dooglus> tam: without the ""'s
[02:49] <jrib> CientificoLoco: yes it's a good idea imo, it is an official, final release
[02:49] <soundray> tam: that's because you entered the quotes.
[02:49] <tam> damn me lol
[02:49] <jrib> livingdaylight: you can use a program called wallpapoz if you use gnome
[02:49] <tam> dooglus: soundray: sh-3.1$ echo hello tam >> ~/.bashrc
[02:49] <Westman> from what I remember with Slackware years ago, it used to be only 5-10 MB req
[02:49] <tam> sh-3.1$
[02:49] <aardfox> how is cedega different than wine?
[02:49] <marthy> oh, roler i thought you were downloading the cd
[02:49] <soundray> tam: do you have a ~/.screenrc ?
[02:49] <marthy> im not sure
[02:50] <sproingie> aardfox: it is wine, with extra hacks by cedega
[02:50] <slinky_> good old slackware 96
[02:50] <livingdaylight> jrib: has that got any better than it was 2 years ago?
[02:50] <dooglus> tam: I'm sorry.  I meant to add a line saying "echo hello tam" to the end of your ~/.bashrc but I messed it up...
[02:50] <kitche> aardfox: just that cedega has better directx support
[02:50] <pdkl> I have edgy RC1 on my system, do i just do a gksu "update-manager -c" to update to final ?
[02:50] <aardfox> i see
[02:50] <tam> soundray: yup, with 1 command in
[02:50] <dooglus> tam: edit the file and correct the last line to say "echo hello tam", ok?
[02:50] <soundray> tam: what command is that?
[02:50] <dooglus> tam: (without the quotes!)
[02:50] <jrib> livingdaylight: I should mention that wallpapoz is not packaged, but a google search should turn it up.  It is a python script that is rpetty easy to setup.  It works perfectly for me
[02:50] <livingdaylight> jrib: that sucked alot of resources and didn't even work very well
[02:50] <Draconicus> How do I manually configure a new ethernet interface device?
[02:50] <aardfox> the day that linux runs any windows app is the day EVERYONE uses linux :D
[02:50] <Chiron> Welcome clinton to the #ubuntu channel at irc.freenode.org enjoy your stay ;)
[02:50] <v1per> i still go with ubuntu server ftw
[02:50] <Chiron> Welcome TsN|Hunter to the #ubuntu channel at irc.freenode.org enjoy your stay ;)
[02:50] <Chiron> Welcome teta_ to the #ubuntu channel at irc.freenode.org enjoy your stay ;)
[02:51] <JoseStefan> pdkl, in your case, just do regular daily updates
[02:51] <soundray> dooglus: this is pointless, we know that it's not being executed
[02:51] <seamus7> Packages.freecontrib.org seems to be down ... when I update from my sources list that package gives me trouble ... anyone know anything about this?
[02:51] <|Sivik|> why do i have a bunch of packages that are being help back when i run aptitude upgrade?
[02:51] <tam> soundray: hardstatus alwayslastline "%y%m%d %c %w"
[02:51] <Chiron> Welcome poops to the #ubuntu channel at irc.freenode.org enjoy your stay ;)
[02:51] <Chiron> Welcome rpedro to the #ubuntu channel at irc.freenode.org enjoy your stay ;)
[02:51] <Westman> slinky: CHMOD is the command, and if the files require root access, then you'll need to SUDO -s .. (I'm coming from BSD).  IS THIS RIGHT Dr W?
[02:51] <v1per> lol
[02:51] <|Sivik|> seamus7: because because their full
[02:51] <sproingie> Chiron: please shut your auto-greet off
[02:51] <Chiron> hmm no one ever taught me about that...
[02:51] <v1per> what's w/ Chiron
[02:51] <dooglus> Draconicus: you can edit /etc/network/interfaces if that's what you mean
[02:51] <Chiron> Welcome FallenHitokiri to the #ubuntu channel at irc.freenode.org enjoy your stay ;)
[02:51] <Chiron> Welcome feross to the #ubuntu channel at irc.freenode.org enjoy your stay ;)
[02:51] <v1per> Chiron: quiet
[02:51] <Chiron> dont know, dont care
[02:51] <seamus7> Sivik: you mean their server is overloaded?
[02:51] <jrib> livingdaylight: I didn't know about it 2 years ago, so I can't compare
[02:51] <Chiron> Welcome stephan21_ to the #ubuntu channel at irc.freenode.org enjoy your stay ;)
[02:51] <Chiron> Welcome marcin_ant to the #ubuntu channel at irc.freenode.org enjoy your stay ;)
[02:51] <JoseStefan> Chiron, no BOTS
[02:51] <Chiron> ..um....ops its gone
[02:51] <_rodney> chiron shutup
[02:51] <Draconicus> dooglus: Thanks. That's just what I meant.
[02:51] <v1per> Chiron: you suck
[02:51] <Chiron> ask someone else man im tired
[02:51] <kitche> Chiron: you might want to turn your script off
[02:51] <Chiron> hmmm no idea there im afraid :(
[02:51] <_goofy_> im having problems with hdd i took it to school for a presentation and now i cant mount it
[02:52] <v1per> Chiron: off
[02:52] <Chiron> oh dear, dont know
[02:52] <soundray> tam: add another line, "screen 0 bash" (no quotes)
[02:52] <Chiron> Welcome luis to the #ubuntu channel at irc.freenode.org enjoy your stay ;)
[02:52] <livingdaylight> jrib: why can't gnome have it as default that people be able to configure their wallpapers per workspace as kde users can
[02:52] <_rodney> chiron part #ubuntu
[02:52] <CientificoLoco> jrib, the download is too slow... wow never in my life I have had to wait a lot...
[02:52] <v1per> lol
[02:52] <JoseStefan> i think he was trying to be smart
[02:52] <livingdaylight> jrib: instead of someone having to make a python script for it
[02:52] <sproingie> would probably have sufficed to devoice him
[02:52] <jrib> livingdaylight: I don't know, I am not a gnome developer :)
[02:52] <stephan21_> can someone tell me the best way to encode avi 2 svcd or vcd
[02:52] <livingdaylight> jrib: and its not even simply available in repos
[02:52] <v1per> he should only greet every 5-10 min if that's the case
[02:52] <livingdaylight> jrib: why not? :)
[02:53] <tam> soundray: wow, that made it work!
[02:53] <v1per> every 5-10 min or every person, whichever takes more time
[02:53] <tam> soundray: thanks for your help. i've never experienced such problems before
[02:53] <tam> dooglus: you too, thanks very much.
[02:53] <|Sivik|> why do i have 56 packages that are not upgraded when i aptitude upgrade
[02:53] <roler> so is there any way to change the dapper-edgy upgrade servers from the update-manager -c command? I am getting 30k/second... ;(
[02:53] <sproingie> |Sivik|: use dist-upgrade
[02:53] <Clinton__> |Sivik|: they need to be dist-upgrade 'ed
[02:53] <seamus7> Can I remove the packages.freecontrib.org netires from my sources.list before updating to Edgy? those packages are giving me trouble.. possibly due to heavy traffic. Do I need them to upgrade?
[02:53] <nalioth> |Sivik|: because those pkgs may not have upgrade candidates
[02:53] <nalioth> seamus7: yes you can.
[02:54] <soundray> tam: excellent. Your screen installation must do something strange during its default shell call.
[02:54] <seamus7> nalioth: thank you :)
[02:54] <v1per> oh, do you dist-upgrade gurus know why xterm might fail to a random glibc error?
[02:54] <sproingie> seamus7: if you use the update manager to upgrade, it will disable it for you
[02:54] <map7> Can anyone use the asterisk flash operator panel under linux successfully?
[02:54] <tam> soundray: yeah, very weird. glad i got it sorted as i've only had this server a little over 10 months :p
[02:54] <nalioth> v1per: was your dist-upgrade successful? are you using only "official" ubuntu repos?
[02:54] <dooglus> tam: if you remove that line, run screen again, and inside screen, run "ps | grep $$", what's it show?
[02:54] <tam> and screen is basically my best friend
[02:54] <|Sivik|> nalioth, ok
[02:54] <_ph00> weird. I upgraded to 6.10 (changed 'dapper' to 'edgy' in sources.list; apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, then reboot) and now I get an error message saying the application Nautilus has quit unexpectedly, no matter how many times I hit 'close' or 'restart', it will pop up again in a couple of seconds
[02:54] <Westman> (cc: DOOG) slinky: CHMOD is the command, and if the files require root access, then you'll need to SUDO -s .. (I'm coming from BSD).  IS THIS RIGHT Dr W?
[02:54] <seamus7> sproingie: I believe that's what I did but it stoped the upgrade and referred to those packages being problematic.
[02:55] <tam> dooglus: shall try now
[02:55] <Creative> Hello
[02:55] <dooglus> Westman: Linux commands are case sensitive.  it's "chmod" and "sudo"
[02:55] <v1per> nalioth, i had an unconventional upgrade w/o ubuntu-desktop, but I changed sources to edgy and aptitude dist-upgraded twice
[02:55] <v1per> nalioth and it didnt complain
[02:55] <jdrake> Is there any firefox 2 I can use on 6.04? I am not quite prepared to upgrade to 6.10.
[02:55] <v1per> jdrake, sure there is, go to getfirefox.com  lol
[02:56] <tam> dooglus:  9156 pts/4    00:00:00 bash
[02:56] <Westman> Yes i'm aware of lcase doog, was just highlighting that for readability.
[02:56] <dooglus> tam: it's a bash, really.
[02:56] <JoseStefan> jdrake, not on the repositories, you would have to install manually from mozilla
[02:56] <tam> dooglus: i am not sure how that is lol..it's very weird
[02:56] <sproingie> i suspect there's a backport to dapper.  dunno about breezy.
[02:56] <nalioth> v1per: that is probably why you are getting glibc errors. you probably have a mixed set of packages from somewhere
[02:56] <Creative>  	 Trash always empty <-- has anybody found a solution for this problem?
[02:56] <soundray> I get frayed fonts inside gnome-terminal and firefox after edgy install. Menu fonts and xchat-gnome are fine. Any hints?
[02:56] <tam> ah, wait, i did change the /etc/passwd file and updated it to /bin/bash that may be it?
[02:56] <dooglus> tam: did the .bashrc not run again now you've removed that line from the .screenrc?
[02:56] <rmd_> can someone somewhere please tell me where the option to allow windows to cover the gnome panel is?
[02:56] <knapper> Hi guys, I need some assistance mounting a fat32 fs with r/w capabilities. Currently in my fstab I have this: "/dev/sda5	/home/knapp/documents/dump	vfat user,fs=auto,iocharset=iso8859-1,dev,codepage=850,exec,umask=0000"
[02:56] <dooglus> tam: that'll be it...
[02:56] <jdrake> v1per and JoseStefan, I tried both those, and it didn't seem to work out too well, I can't get it to run
[02:56] <dooglus> tam: if your default shell isn't bash, then you won't be getting bash shellls...
[02:56] <tam> dooglus: cheers for your help tho, very much appreciated
[02:57] <v1per> nalioth, well my system has been pretty clean so far
[02:57] <slinky_> Westman: I'm reading but kind of lost, converting permissions
[02:57] <v1per> jdrake, what did you do to try to get it to run
[02:57] <|dyn4mx|> where can I download the w32codecs package?  the freecontrib.org mirror isn't working
[02:57] <sproingie> i do hope that the next LTS version of ubuntu in 2.5ish years gets a name as nice as "dapper drake" and not as corny as "edgy eft"
[02:57] <dooglus> !info w32codecs
[02:57] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (edgy-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[02:57] <roler> how do I stop the upgrade proces so I can select another server??
[02:57] <Nem|ltop> hey guys i need a bit of help
[02:57] <|dyn4mx|> ok thankst dooglus
[02:57] <jdrake> firefox-bin: ./firefox-bin: /usr/lib/libnss3.so: version `NSS_3.11.1' not found (required by ./firefox-bin)
[02:57] <jrib> !helpme | Nem|ltop
[02:57] <ubotu> Nem|ltop: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:57] <tam> ~ask
[02:57] <|Sivik|> Nem|ltop: just ask the question
[02:57] <kitche> sproingie it's has fawn in it's name
[02:57] <|dyn4mx|> !info w32codecs
[02:58] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (edgy-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[02:58] <Nem|ltop> i just set aside 20gb on my main drive and i am trying to set up a dual boot between XP and ubuntu
[02:58] <aRko> a
[02:58] <Nem|ltop> gave 2gb for swap, 5gb for / and 13gb for /home
[02:58] <livingdaylight> jrib: when you change workspace, how long is the delay?
[02:58] <jdrake> It includes this: libnss3.so in the dir, I added /opt/firefox to my ld.so.conf, but no effect.
[02:58] <v1per> nalioth, currently grabbing libgl1-mesa-dri, which is apparently an xterm dep
[02:58] <dooglus> roler: if you're using apt-get, you can just hit control-c.  if you're using some new-fangled graphical gizmo then I don't know
[02:58] <sproingie> kitche: i hereby designate it "funky fawn"
[02:58] <aRko> a
[02:58] <aRko> a
[02:58] <aRko> a
[02:58] <aRko> a
[02:58] <aRko> a
[02:58] <aRko> a
[02:58] <roler> dangit...
[02:58] <Nem|ltop> but I think somewhere in the installation it didn't install grub or anything, it just boots straight to windows, how do i fix this?
[02:58] <rojoneck>  	 Trash always empty <-- has anybody found a solution for this problem?
[02:58] <jrib> livingdaylight: it is a little noticeable sometimes, sometimes it is instant
[02:58] <Westman> slinky: Yeah, i can understand your confusion.  Maybe we both need to read http://www.tldp.org a little more :)
[02:59] <Laz_> Hey anybody here has Edgy on a PPC?
[02:59] <roler> rebooting...
[02:59] <v1per> !spam > aRko
[02:59] <hype> OMG le Raappeee!
[02:59] <sproingie> well, almost time to reboot
[02:59] <slinky_> Westman: Is there a place hehe, thanks
[02:59] <livingdaylight> jrib: that's what i mean
[02:59] <seamus7> upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10... should I expect a clean upgrade generally ... or do most people do clean installations? I have my root in its own partition.
[02:59] <Nem|ltop> anyone? i have no grub
[02:59] <jrib> livingdaylight: I see, I don't know of a better solution
[02:59] <livingdaylight> jrib: that is the only only thing i miss in gnome. If the developers could just give us that one thing
[03:00] <jrib> livingdaylight: you could file a bug report and see what happens
[03:00] <slinky_> thank you westman, arf to read
[03:00] <livingdaylight> jrib: its the only solution, unforutrnately. Other than going to kubuntu
[03:00] <feross> seamus7: ahh, I suggest clean install.
[03:00] <dooglus> seamus7: I've upgraded from hoary->breezy->dapper->edgy without (many) problems
[03:00] <Draconicus> I'm getting "no such device" when trying to use my new ethernet card via ifup eth0. I need to reassign eth0's hardware address, but I need to know what file to change. I have to do it manually because I'm on Xubuntu.
[03:00] <livingdaylight> jrib: i could beg Mark Shuttleworth to lean on the Gnome developers :p
[03:00] <soundray> Nem|ltop: follow the instructions for grub overwritten by windows:
[03:01] <soundray> !grub | Nem|ltop
[03:01] <ubotu> Nem|ltop: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:01] <tam> dooglus: your not many problems would be endless problems for normal users ;)
[03:01] <nemish_> what graphical disk utility is used during the live cd boot and install?
[03:01] <seamus7> feross dooglus: hmmm. i'm upgrading right now. i'll hope for the best. looks like it depends on my system. thanks.
[03:01] <mista> join #ubuntu-xgl
[03:01] <Laz_> Which on is better Fedora 6 or Ubuntu "Edgy Eft"?
[03:01] <mista> sorry
[03:01] <v1per> soundray, omg, you're so right!  fonts!
[03:01] <tam> Laz_: fedora ofcourse
[03:01] <v1per> soundray how did you fix it?!
[03:01] <dooglus> seamus7: it also depends on your experience level I guess - ie. what counts as 'a problem' for you...
[03:01] <tam> Laz_: your in a ubuntu channel man...
[03:02] <nalioth> Laz_: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that question, please
[03:02] <lando> i noticed the screen resolution menu item is missing. anyone else have the same problem
[03:02] <soundray> v1per: I didn't
[03:02] <Nem|ltop> thanks
[03:02] <rmd_> i have to say the download rate i am getting for this 6.10 ISO is amazing
[03:02] <dooglus> rmd_: using a torrent?
[03:02] <Laz_> Which is better Yum or Apt-get?
[03:02] <v1per> soundray, i'm sitting here w/ a broken xterm and a urxvt that can't disable matto .. ZOMG
[03:02] <Zoohouse> hello everyone
[03:02] <JoseStefan> !best
[03:02] <Rav|strangler> I'm doing the update
[03:02] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[03:02] <rmd_> dooglus: nope.  ftp :-/
[03:02] <sproingie> Laz_: ubuntu doesn't use yum
[03:02] <Rav|strangler> it's going sooo slow
[03:02] <nemish_> what graphical disk utility is used during the live cd boot and install?
[03:02] <dooglus> rmd_: amazingly slow then?  ;)
[03:02] <nalioth> Laz_: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:02] <seamus7> dooglus: that's very true ... I have no problem reconfiguring things .. I just hope I don't fun into high level problems that are beyond me :)
[03:02] <tam> sproingie: that means it wins hands down then by default :p
[03:03] <rmd_> 762kb/s :)
[03:03] <sproingie> nemish_: probably gparted
[03:03] <Zoohouse> I already ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  and downloaded all the packages for edgy, but it didn't install... How can I install them without downloading them once more? (I rebooted)
[03:03] <rmd_> oops, i mean 789 hah!
[03:03] <bkjones> just to clarify, do you *have* to have an ati or nvidia driver to use the compiz/xgl/compiz goodness?
[03:03] <dooglus> rmd_: b or B?
[03:03] <sproingie> Zoohouse: it won't redownload them
[03:03] <mpee> Zoohouse: they're cached
[03:03] <rmd_> KB
[03:03] <nalioth> Zoohouse: just restart the process, it'll pick up where it left off
[03:03] <rmd_> KB/s
[03:03] <JoseStefan> Zoohouse, it does resume, automatically
[03:03] <mpee> bkjones: no
[03:03] <nemish_> sproingie, thanks
[03:03] <bkjones> ok, thanks!
[03:03] <Zoohouse> ok thanks :D
[03:03] <Laz_> Does Ubuntu work correctly with Wireless cards of apple notebooks(PPC)?
[03:03] <dooglus> rmd_: well that's pretty good.  is that saturating your connection?
[03:03] <_goofy_> im having problems with hdd i took it to school for a presentation and now i cant mount it
[03:03] <soundray> bkjones: no, I think it works with the newer Intel chipsets, too
[03:04] <rmd_> dooglus: i dunno.  i'm just on here.  not doing naything else
[03:04] <bkjones> I'd really be shocked if it worked here. I'm using the vesa driver :-/
[03:04] <Zoohouse> You guys made me very happy with that info :)
[03:04] <dooglus> rmd_: I mean is it 'only' 700KB because that's all you ever get?
[03:04] <rmd_> oh
[03:04] <lando> anyone else missing the screen resolution menu item???
[03:04] <Rav|strangler> I got my wireless working yesterday
[03:04] <bkjones> it'd be sick though, because then I could do it inside of a vm.
[03:04] <mista> ok i have a AMD 939 X64 CPU i install the i386 ver of ubuntu 6.06 should i update the kernel?
[03:04] <alekz> hi, i got a problem, when i start my edgy i just got a black screen, several minutes after i can see the ubuntu login screen, how can i fix that ?
[03:04] <v1per> omg where did my openoffice go!?!?!
[03:05] <v1per> wtf?
[03:05] <rmd_> i forget what my "limit" is.  but i don't typically get 780+.  i usually get 300-500 on my downloads
[03:05] <sproingie> mista: you could install a k8 kernel.  i generally don't bother.
[03:05] <dooglus> I just realised, I'm in #ubuntu, sitting at a WinXP machine, VNC'ed onto a debian laptop...  I'd reboot into edgy to try it out, but there's a BIOS password and I'm not near the machine...  any ideas?
[03:05] <sproingie> mista: it doesn't seem to affect performance at all
[03:05] <cafuego> mista: You can install the k7 kernel, but it won't make much difference in terms of speed.
[03:05] <mista> whys is that would that help make the system run better
[03:05] <v1per> how does openoffice disappear after upgrade? that's just ruthless...
[03:05] <nalioth> mista: if you want 64bit capability, you should install from the amd64 LiveCD
[03:05] <JoseStefan> there is not K8 kernel
[03:05] <deema> hi
[03:06] <JoseStefan> not=no
[03:06] <mitch_> installing windows on my second HDD will overwrite my MBR right? So how do I get grub back? Boot into Ubuntu live CD and go to the install grub section?
[03:06] <Nem|ltop> crap
[03:06] <mista> na no 64x yea
[03:06] <Nem|ltop> guys i didnt make a /boot partition
[03:06] <cafuego> JoseStefan: Not in Ubuntu x86, no.
[03:06] <Nem|ltop> do i absolutely need one to set up grub
[03:06] <Agrajag> dooglus: vmware?
[03:06] <sproingie> JoseStefan: oh there is one for x86_64, i figured they might have made an optimized one for k8
[03:06] <Crescendo> Okay, so I started the Edgy upgrade via SSH, remotely - I'm now local, at the GUI - how do I check on the progress?
[03:06] <sproingie> JoseStefan: i guess ubuntu also realized it was a waste of time :)
[03:06] <soundray> !grub > mitch_
[03:06] <dooglus> Agrajag: I'd have to download and install edgy again I think, for that?  I don't have the disk space anyway.
[03:06] <JoseStefan> it's either -686 or -generic, there is no K8 (it's only a meta package)
[03:06] <roler> guys can anyone give me a url of a list of ubuntu servers with edgy?
[03:07] <dooglus> Agrajag: I'm wondering if there's maybe some way to ask linux to "reboot, skipping boot password"
[03:07] <_goofy_> im having problems with hdd i took it to school for a presentation and now i cant mount it
[03:07] <sproingie> well you could compile a k8 kernel.  makes zero difference as far as i can see
[03:07] <finalbeta> rofl, check out vino in combination with fglrx, anyone who has fglrx with vino (remote desktop) and can confirm what I'm seeing here? http://librarian.launchpad.net/4937646/Screenshot-VNC%3A%20LibVNCServer.png
[03:07] <Agrajag> dooglus: think about that for a minute
[03:07] <JoseStefan> correction -386
[03:07] <dooglus> roler: you looking for the CD images?  or the apt packages?
[03:07] <deema> why doesn't Preferences > Screen Resolution allow me to change the refresh rate? there is only one option
[03:07] <rmd_> does anyone know if there is a way to set the gnome panel so it can be covered by windows?
[03:07] <roler> dooglus, apt
[03:07] <rmd_> i can't find the option *anywhere*
[03:07] <dooglus> Agrajag: I can't - I don't know anything about BIOS
[03:07] <dooglus> roler: I found some lists, but nothing up-to-date.
[03:08] <cafuego> JoseStefan: Not on dapper.
[03:08] <Agrajag> dooglus: you can't do that, the kernel unloads, the machine reboots, and nobody has control at that point but the BIOS
[03:08] <Chippy> what is the package to install svn?
[03:08] <dooglus> roler: lots of mirrors are down, or out of date.
[03:08] <cafuego> JoseStefan: That's only edgy.
[03:08] <Agrajag> Chippy: probably subversion
[03:08] <Chippy> not the svn server though
[03:08] <jvai> hey is xscreensaver's in edgy!!! i want my biof screensaver back!
[03:08] <v1per> is there a place where i can post my likes and dislikes of the edgy upgrade process?
[03:08] <finalbeta> deema GNOME considers end users to be complete idiots, so they remove every option that could confuse your, refresh rate is much to hard for you to understand.
[03:08] <deema> so what shall I do?
[03:09] <Nem|ltop> is there a way to install GRUB after i already have ubuntu installed?
[03:09] <helloyo> i have a cheap ati card, would it be worthwhile buying a cheap nvidia card?
[03:09] <JoseStefan> cafuego, there is no -K8 on i386 dapper either, and if he were on 64bit dapper, i dont think he has much choices
[03:09] <Nem|ltop> i need to dual boot without having to boot from the cd
[03:09] <Chippy> Agrajag: doh.  I'm an idiot :) thanks
[03:09] <deema> finalbeta: what shall I do
[03:09] <nalioth> !tell Laz_ about wireless
[03:09] <dutchy> ok, i've tried reinstalling nvidia-glx etc and tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but still X wont start because it fails to use /dev/nvidia0 (which exists)
[03:09] <dooglus> roler: here's a list I made of mirrors which appear to be both up and up-to-date: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/mirrors.txt
[03:09] <dutchy> does anyone have an idea what to do?
[03:09] <cafuego> JoseStefan: Indeed, but I said -k7, not k8. that was someone else, who obviously doesn't know. ;-)
[03:09] <roler> dooglus, you rock!
[03:10] <finalbeta> deema , don't know how to change it myself, don't need it. I guess you will have to google and manually change your xorg.conf
[03:10] <LeoStewart> Anyone know how I can restore the trash and home icons to my theme?
[03:10] <JoseStefan> imho -k7 is too old for athlon 64's, intel optimized kernels should perform better (on dapper)
[03:10] <dooglus> roler: and here's a list of mirrors which are listed as mirrors on packages.ubuntu.com, but don't contain firefox2 for edgy: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/badmirrors.txt
[03:10] <finalbeta> cafuego , I did not tell a lie did I? :p
[03:11] <Nem|ltop> anybody? i'm just trying to get grub set up so i can dual boot
[03:11] <Nem|ltop> can anyone please help me out
[03:11] <Crescendo> Okay, so I started the Edgy upgrade via SSH, remotely - I'm now local, at the GUI - how do I check on the progress?
[03:11] <JoseStefan> as -k7 doesnt support SSE2 and SSE3, maybe not even SSE1
[03:11] <hazexp> K7 supports SSE1
[03:11] <seamus7> During upgrade to Edgy ... does it normally take a while for it to authenticate edgy.tar.gz against edgy.tar.gz.gp ?
[03:11] <arnducky> JoseStefan, bullshit
[03:12] <LjL> !language | arnducky
[03:12] <ubotu> arnducky: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:12] <corin_777> can anyone help me move from kde to gnome? Ubuntu was crashing at installation..  but kubuntu worked fine, now its installed I want to go back to gnome
[03:12] <arnducky> the kernel you want is amd64
[03:12] <dooglus> Crescendo: you go back in time, run the upgrade inside screen or dtach, detach from the session remotely and reattach on the local machine.
[03:12] <JoseStefan> arnducky, you want to use facts?
[03:12] <Zoohouse> I downloaded all of edgy files via apt-get.. But now when it trys to install I get a box from xserver (Debconf on Blackbird) saying "Incorrect nice value Please enter an integer between -20 and 19." The buttons are help next and cancel. This is what came out in console: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28546/
[03:12] <LeoStewart> Nobody else has a problem with the trash and home icon not being consistent with the rest of the theme?
[03:13] <roler> dooglus,  your domain is not resolving
[03:13] <Crescendo> dooglus, :(
[03:13] <roler> dooglus, ; wait, i think my firefox froze
[03:13] <dooglus> roler: oh yes.  someone's apparently DOSing my host.  It's 82.67.28.79
[03:13] <andy> Good day all
[03:14] <andy> What is a good antivirus for Ubuntu?
[03:14] <JoseStefan> !virus | andy
[03:14] <ubotu> andy: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:14] <lando> anyone else experiencing slow downloads when installing packages through apt-get
[03:14] <dooglus> roler: but... dooglus.rincevent.net is a virtual host, um - so you would need to put a line: 82.67.28.79 dooglus.rincevent.net   in your /etc/hosts
[03:14] <jvai> clamav andy
[03:14] <roler> dooglus, ; now it says file not found... Virtual Hosts? http://82.67.28.79/random/mirrors.txt
[03:14] <nalioth> andy: you don't need one for ubuntu
[03:14] <roler> okay
[03:14] <Zoohouse> lando: yes I am. My location Miami FL USA
[03:14] <mattSta> WILL SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME WITH A LILLYPOND ERROR
[03:14] <dooglus> roler: if you use the IP address directly, the web server doesn't know you want the 'dooglus' vhost, see?
[03:14] <andy> I understand the linux doesn't have much of a problem but the email can used to pass some on to others
[03:15] <lando> Zoohouse, same here
[03:15] <lando> miami that is
[03:15] <roler> dooglus, got it thanks
[03:15] <dooglus> good.  what a mess, eh?
[03:15] <mattSta> please i get an error when i try to do anything with lilypond
[03:16] <Nem|ltop> is there somebody I can message?
[03:16] <JoseStefan> AMD introduced SSE1 support with the Athlon XP, it was not available on the original Athlon. The K7 package info says it's for AMD Duron/Athlon/Sempron. While a modern day AMD CPU supports most of Intel's extensions.
[03:17] <Nem|ltop> i have windows XP on one partiton, 20gb set aside on the same drive, 2gb for swap, 5gb for / and 13gb for /home, but I don't have a boot loader, what should I be doing right now?
[03:17] <kmitch87> NemJltop: ubuntu comes with its own bootloader.
[03:17] <|Sivik|> Nem|ltop: you install the grub on the mbr right
[03:18] <|Sivik|> Nem|ltop: you have to install windows then linux to get the bootloader for linux to regonize winblows
[03:18] <Nem|ltop> i guess not because its just booting straight to windows unless i boot from the cd
[03:18] <|Sivik|> Nem|ltop: did you install windows or ubuntu first
[03:18] <Nem|ltop> windows was on the drive first
[03:18] <Rame> www.patchw0rld.eu
[03:18] <Rame> www.patchw0rld.eu
[03:18] <|Sivik|> Nem|ltop: then you probably didn't but grub on the MBR
[03:18] <judith_> Nem|ltop: In that case, re-install and make sure you install grub in the 1st sector of the boot partition.
[03:18] <rmd_> oh!  let me click on that link!
[03:19] <Nem|ltop> sivik you're probably right
[03:19] <Rame> www.patchw0rld.eu
[03:19] <small_tux> hi
[03:19] <Rame> hi
[03:19] <seamus7> I'm using the upgrade manager to go to Edgy.. but it's been stuck on 'authenticate ..edgy.tar.gz against ..edgy.tar.gz.gp'  for a long while ... is this normal?
[03:19] <Nem|ltop> i didn't see anywhere in the installation something about grub
[03:19] <feross> does easyubuntu work with edgy? seems to be down right now tho.. :(
[03:19] <Nem|ltop> and i didn't make a /boot partition
[03:19] <Rame> www.patchw0rld.eu
[03:19] <RhiNo> i need help the make command is not working
[03:19] <Nem|ltop> the only partitions i made were /, swap and /home
[03:19] <psusi> ubuntu installs grub to the mbr by default iirc, which is where it should be
[03:19] <RhiNo> i just extracted ndiswrapper and cannot make it
[03:19] <dooglus> Nem|ltop: I dual boot, and don't have a /boot partition.  but I use 'lilo' instead of grub.
[03:19] <judith_> Nem|ltop: grub is reffered to as the boot loader.
[03:19] <Nem|ltop> ok
[03:20] <rmd_> you dont *need* a /boot
[03:20] <Nem|ltop> so how do i know if grub is installed or not
[03:20] <dooglus> RhiNo: install a package called 'build-essential'
[03:20] <Nem|ltop> if it happens automatically
[03:20] <rmd_> i've never had one :-/
[03:20] <RhiNo> i did
[03:20] <Tokenbad> I just tried vmware and to install windows...I have allucated space for it...but when try is says can't find hard drive...any info?
[03:20] <Rame> the best warez site www.patchw0rld.eu
[03:20] <RhiNo> make command still didnt work
[03:20] <Crescendo> dooglus, :(
[03:20] <dthacker> I've been trying to upload a PGP signed Code of Conduct and I keep getting an invalid key error.  I have been cutting and pasting my .txt.asc into the big text box.  It takes 3 pastes to fit it all in.  Is there another way?
[03:20] <UdontKnow> Rame: would you please respect our policy?
[03:20] <Crescendo> Okay, so I started the Edgy upgrade via SSH, remotely - I'm now local, at the GUI - how do I check on the progress?
[03:20] <map7> can anyone view this site http://www.asternic.org/demo.php on linux without it flashing green/red?
[03:20] <rmd_> Nem|ltop: if you are booting Ubuntu, grub is installed :)
[03:20] <Nem|ltop> but im booting from CD
[03:21] <Rame> www.patchw0rld.euwww.patchw0rld.euwww.patchw0rld.euwww.patchw0rld.eu
[03:21] <nalioth> dthacker: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:21] <dooglus> Crescendo: have you left the ssh session connected on the remote host?
[03:21] <Nem|ltop> if i don't have the ubuntu cd in, it will boot straight to windows
[03:21] <small_tux> is it known anybody where the list of servers is in the new xchat?
[03:21] <dthacker> nalioth: tnx, will do
[03:21] <Crescendo> Yes.
[03:21] <dooglus> Crescendo: what OS is the remote host running?
[03:21] <Crescendo> It's the machine I'm on locally, now.
[03:22] <rmd_> Nem|ltop: if you use that CD to install Ubuntu, it will install grub automatically and will cause no problems for you. it will even add an option so you can select between ubuntu or windows at boot time
[03:22] <small_tux> where is the server list ?
[03:22] <Crescendo> Um, Windows XP?  Running PuTTy?
[03:22] <JoseStefan> map7, no flashing here
[03:22] <Nem|ltop> rmd_, then i guess id did something wrong
[03:22] <Megaqwerty> I'm having problems with the flash 9 repositories: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28547/
[03:22] <mhz> hi all
[03:22] <Nem|ltop> do my partitions sound alright? 2gb for swap, 5gb for / and 13gb for /home
[03:22] <map7> JoseStefan, what browser/flash are you running?
[03:22] <dooglus> Crescendo: the ssh client is running on a machine you're not currently at, right?  Which OS is it running on?  Can you log on to it from where you are?
[03:23] <Crescendo> Right.  No, I can not.
[03:23] <JoseStefan> firefox 2 (edgy) with whatever flash version is on edgy
[03:23] <RhiNo> my make command is not working and build-essentials did not make that work
[03:23] <seamus7> Nevermind ... I had a window hidden that I hadn't clicked .... :(
[03:23] <jrib> Nem|ltop: that's a lot of swap imo
[03:23] <dooglus> Crescendo: I see.  I would install VNC on the windows host and view its desktop that way.  but again, you'd need a time machine...
[03:23] <Born_In_Xixax> how can I check that my version of Edgy is the release version?
[03:23] <spdf> Megaqwerty, wget http://seveas.imbrandon.com/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[03:23] <Nem|ltop> shit
[03:23] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[03:23] <Nem|ltop> whoops
[03:23] <andy> Do I need an antivirus ot monitor the emails coming in?
[03:23] <Nem|ltop> i mean shoot sorry bad habbit
[03:24] <Nem|ltop> ok so im starting the installation over
[03:24] <JoseStefan> !virus | andy
[03:24] <ubotu> andy: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:24] <Nem|ltop> this is the new installer i think btw
[03:24] <Megaqwerty> spdf: that worked! thanks again!
[03:24] <Crescendo> Grrr.  That's annoying.
[03:24] <DaveyJ> whats the best torrent program for (k)ubuntu? ktorrent doesnt like me much
[03:24] <jack|ass> So is there a way to make the dist upgrade mojo for Dapper->Eft be completely noninteractive?  I started it, left, came home and it had stopped downloading stuff to ask if i wanted to get the "non-free flash plugin."  Seems like it coulda asked me that earlier...
[03:24] <spdf> Megaqwerty, I win at life. :)
[03:24] <Crescendo> I can't view SSH sessions from the host?
[03:24] <dooglus> Crescendo: here's an idea:  you can run "tail -f /var/log/dpkg.log" on the local machine - that will show which packages it's updating as it does them..
[03:24] <mhz> I was wondering what tool to use. I need to help a friend of mine to setup a cybercafe. So, basically, he needs a ciber control server and the chance to boot from pre-determined system images. Is that possible via Ubuntu? Any experiences about it?
[03:24] <xzk> hey guys, I've installed Edgy, and something went wrong. I get an XORG error and I can't figure out how to fix it - anyone familiar with it?
[03:24] <dooglus> Crescendo: I don't know of a way.
[03:24] <bianconeri> Anybody finding problems with Tor on Edgy??
[03:25] <andy> I read the article. I understand my computer is ok but what about passing email on ot thers such a forwarding something that may contain a virus?
[03:25] <Nem|ltop> OKAY, starting over guys
[03:25] <Nem|ltop> i have 20gb
[03:25] <judith_> mhz: visit http:www.userful.com. Period
[03:25] <xzk> It won't even let me boot to Linux
[03:25] <Nem|ltop> which partitions and what sizes should i make
[03:25] <spdf> xzk, Does it put you to a login prompt?
[03:25] <GeorgeDutch> Hello can anybody tell me please how to make xgl and beryl work on edgy eft?
[03:25] <mhz> judith_: okis, i will
[03:25] <mhz> thx
[03:26] <Tokenbad> I just tried vmware and to install windows...I have allucated space for it...but when try is says can't find hard drive...any info?
[03:26] <jrib> !xgl | GeorgeDutch
[03:26] <ubotu> GeorgeDutch: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:26] <LjL> !xgl > GeorgeDutch
[03:26] <Nem|ltop> do i just need / and swap?
[03:26] <judith_> Nem|ltop: make the root and swap. The swap should be at least 512MB.
[03:26] <GeorgeDutch> danks
[03:26] <jrib> hmm we need to coordinate that somehow
[03:26] <Nem|ltop> ok how big judith_
[03:26] <xzk> spdf: um.. after i click off the errors.. it never takes me to the O/S.. it's like DOS or something
[03:26] <bianconeri> anybody could help me with tor here??
[03:26] <spdf> xzk, Not quite DOS.
[03:26] <spdf> xzk, Its linux.
[03:26] <judith_> Nem|ltop: how much space do you have?
[03:27] <corin_777> bianconeri whats your prob with tor?
[03:27] <spdf> xzk, You can login, and do some troubleshooting..
[03:27] <Nem|ltop> judith_, i have set aside about 20gb for ubuntu
[03:27] <mcrandello> anyone lose x11 after updating to edgy?
[03:27] <judith_> Nem|ltop: OK. ,,,and RAM?
[03:27] <Anderson> hello everyone
[03:27] <LeoStewart> mcrandello: yes, I did.
[03:27] <Nem|ltop> 2gb of ram
[03:27] <googleness> hello
[03:27] <judith_> OOhh!
[03:28] <judith_> do it this way:
[03:28] <dooglus> Agrajag: going back to the BIOS thing.  at the point of booting, only the BIOS has control, but what about right now?  Can I reset the BIOS to have no password now?
[03:28] <mcrandello> I'm getting- x: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0 giving up
[03:28] <Anderson> is there any apply for the new ubuntu?
[03:28] <mcrandello> and then it gives up :(
[03:28] <xzk> spdf: is there a way to fix it?
[03:28] <judith_> root partition: 18GB, Swap: 2GB
[03:28] <Anderson> I mean LIVE CD
[03:28] <jrib> Anderson: "apply"?  What do you mean?
[03:29] <Agrajag> dooglus: no
[03:29] <Nem|ltop> judith_, okay doing that right now hold please
[03:29] <jrib> Anderson: yes, the desktop cd is both the install and live cd
[03:29] <Megaqwerty> where does the terminal keep the history of it's commands?
[03:29] <jrib> Megaqwerty: ~/.history probably
[03:29] <Agrajag> dooglus: if you could do that what would be the point of having a bios password? It's for security
[03:29] <Anderson> I find that my computer is out of date to run the live cd
[03:29] <LeoStewart> How can I get the trash icon and home icon to be consistent with my theme?
[03:29] <jrib> Megaqwerty: .bash_history if you use bash probably :)
[03:30] <xzk> anyone know how to repair XORG ? :(
[03:30] <xzk> edgy broke it
[03:30] <bianconeri> it stopped working...I cant surf annonymously ...this is the output when executing tor from the prompt http://pastebin.ca/223695http://pastebin.ca/223695
[03:30] <Anderson> Maybe I have buy a new one
[03:30] <Megaqwerty> jrib: duh, thanks
[03:30] <Nem|ltop> judith_, can I message you?
[03:30] <crimsun> xzk: make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed.
[03:30] <bianconeri> http://pastebin.ca/223695 sorry double paste:D
[03:30] <kmitch87> xzk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:30] <DarqFiber> should we go back to dapper ? or wait for the first service pack ;)
[03:30] <judith_> Nem|ltop: right here?
[03:30] <Zoohouse> Anderson: you can try using xfce.
[03:30] <Nem|ltop> um yeah
[03:31] <bkjones> rofl
[03:31] <judith_> Go ahead.
[03:31] <Nem|ltop> thx
[03:31] <bkjones> launching beryl-manager at login crashed X.
[03:31] <dooglus> Agrajag: the BIOS password is to keep people from booting the laptop.  if it's already booted, then that game's lost.  think of it like having a lock which you can open from the inside without a key..
[03:31] <tiglionabbit> so uh, eft's out.  Where's the upgrade notes?
[03:31] <Anderson> Zoohouse: what is xfce?
[03:31] <mcrandello> It got upgraded to x11r7 okay, there are no errors in /var/log/xorg.0.log does anyone know how to fix?
[03:31] <DarqFiber> stupid dell wireless cards
[03:31] <bkjones> I expected it, but it's always funny to see any part of linux just totally puke.
[03:31] <v1per> !xfce
[03:31] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:31] <Zoohouse> Anderson: older computers run fine with linux. Just don't use a envi. that uses a lot of resource.
[03:31] <JoseStefan> tiglionabbit, /topic
[03:31] <DarqFiber> can anyone reccommend a minipci wireless card that works with edgy out of the box ?
[03:31] <Agrajag> dooglus: no, it's to stop people from being able to boot from whatever medium they want and change other bios settings, which can potentially ruin hardware
[03:31] <bianconeri> Corrin_777: http://pastebin.ca/223695
[03:32] <v1per> that's not the explanation i was looking for
[03:32] <Zoohouse> Anderson: Xfce is another enviroment for Linux. Just like KDE and GNOME are enviroments. XFce uses less resources then GNOME or KDE.
[03:32] <LeoStewart> How do I get that annoying hover-over button thing to go away in firefox 2?
[03:32] <LeoStewart> Which makes the forward and back button all unaligned with the rest...
[03:33] <andy> Anyone figure out how to get a logitech webcam working?
[03:33] <dooglus> Agrajag: fair point.  ok.  I guess I'll not be trying edgy yet then.  :)  I thought I was trying it earlier, but it turns out the mirror I upgraded from was a dud.
[03:33] <judith_> LeoStewart: what are you talking about?
[03:33] <Tokenbad> so no one knows why windows in vmware wouldn't see the hard disk?
[03:33] <deema> how can I get more options for refresh rate in System > Preferences > Screen Resolution? It's stuck on one value, and no other options
[03:33] <bianconeri> andy: my cam works great...it didnt work with dapper...whats ur cam?
[03:33] <Anderson> Thankyou Zoohouse
[03:33] <Nem|ltop> judith_, YGPM
[03:33] <JoseStefan> !xconfig > deema
[03:33] <Agrajag> Tokenbad: Did you make it a scsi disk or an IDE disk?
[03:34] <Agrajag> Tokenbad: I warned you about that earlier
[03:34] <judith_> Nem|ltop: ??
[03:34] <Nem|ltop> i sent you a private message
[03:34] <Zoohouse> Anderson: go the ubuntulinux.com and you will see it. I think they are calling it Xbuntu or something
[03:34] <mattSta> how can i fix lilypond problems PLEASE HELP
[03:34] <judith_> Nem|ltop: didn't get it!
[03:34] <Anderson> OK, thankyou verymuch.
[03:35] <andy> It cam as a buddy cam pack but the title on the logitech site says Quickcam
[03:35] <Zoohouse> Anderson: no problem
[03:35] <Nem|ltop> darn
[03:35] <judith_> last msg was "judith_, okay doing that right now hold please"
[03:35] <Nem|ltop> okay ill just ask in here
[03:35] <LjL> !attitude | mattSta, you should be specific in your questions, and patient
[03:35] <ubotu> mattSta, you should be specific in your questions, and patient: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:35] <Nem|ltop> ok so i'm on the "prepare mount points thing"
[03:35] <dooglus> Anderson: if you already have ubuntu installed, you can get xubuntu by installing package 'xubuntu-desktop'
[03:36] <Nem|ltop> judith_, i took out the mount point for my windows NTFS partition
[03:36] <Nem|ltop> because i figured that isn't necessary
[03:36] <zohaib> hey what is a repo i can download the latest ati drivers??
[03:36] <judith_> Ohh ...NOOOO!
[03:36] <zohaib> i think seveous had one, or whats his name
[03:36] <Nem|ltop> no?
[03:36] <judith_> You do not want windows at all?
[03:36] <ubuntu_> Hello all
[03:36] <Nem|ltop> i do
[03:36] <Anderson> you mean not to use live CD function but install it, rigt?
[03:36] <judith_> Look...just use the free space.
[03:36] <Ademan> hey has anyone else noticed that in edgy the "Documents" favorite folder is very inconsistent in where it shows up? (shows up in "Places" doesnt show up all the time in open file dialogs)
[03:36] <Tokenbad> Agrajag, in the setup it was ide....but I just checked and it says scsi..even though told it in setup to make it ide...
[03:36] <CorpseFeeder> my friend has got the same sources.list file I have, but when they search for realplayer it won't show up in search results.. but it does for me.. Why is this?
[03:36] <judith_> You said you had 20gb
[03:36] <judith_> use that.
[03:36] <Nem|ltop> yeah
[03:37] <Agrajag> Tokenbad: remove it and add an IDE disk
[03:37] <Nem|ltop> holy craaaaaaap
[03:37] <judith_> Go back behind
[03:37] <Nem|ltop> alright i have to do this over again hold
[03:37] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, i think you can let ubuntu do it automatically
[03:37] <judith_> do not OK anything yet
[03:37] <ubuntu_> I tried to install the new ubuntu version 6.10 it is always crashed each time that I tried to install it.
[03:37] <Nem|ltop> ok
[03:37] <Tokenbad> Agrajag, already did...thanks for your help
[03:37] <Nem|ltop> judith_, let me explain the situation
[03:37] <andy> bianconeri, where did you find a driver for the webcam
[03:37] <ubuntu_> this is the first time for years since I'm using ubuntu.
[03:37] <moshe> does anyone know when the nvidia driver will be updated?
[03:37] <spdf> ubuntu_, When does it crash?
[03:37] <_aasics_> When I go to delete a contact off of my buddy list; it reappears when I restart gaim.  Is there a way to fix this?
[03:37] <moshe> in edgy, I mean
[03:37] <Nem|ltop> judith_, i have 278gb NTFS partition, 2gb linux swap, 17.67gb for /
[03:37] <bianconeri> spcaxxx doesnt work?
[03:37] <dooglus> he was ubuntu and windows both installed, but can only boot into ubuntu if he uses the CD.
[03:37] <_aasics_> In gaim: When I go to delete a contact off of my buddy list; it reappears when I restart gaim.  Is there a way to fix this?
[03:38] <dooglus> he wants to know how to set up a boot loaded to give him the choice at boot time.
[03:38] <ubuntu_> right at the middle of the installation. let say at 70 to 71 %
[03:38] <mcrandello> alright trying to run Xorg I get "could not open default font fixed" I have xfonts-base installed
[03:38] <Ademan> _aasics_: we heard you the first time, and this is a problem that seems to happen with ALL AIM clients that aren't AOLs
[03:38] <CorpseFeeder> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28549/ here is the contents of my sources list. My friends has the same but cannot find realplayer in synaptic. What is the problem?
[03:38] <Nem|ltop> judith_, im at the prepare mount points thing and it wants to mount the NTFS partition to /media/sdc1
[03:38] <ubuntu_> First of all when you boot from the disk it install the live CD first then you have to click on install to start a fresh installation.
[03:39] <Anderson> Is there any buying MP4 and MP3?
[03:39] <rayok> help?! trying to install but i get a black screen after the first progress bar goes away :(
[03:39] <judith_> Nem|ltop: that's OK
[03:39] <dooglus> Nem|ltop: whether or not you let ubuntu mount your windows partition is irrelevant here
[03:39] <Nem|ltop> ok so can i click forward now?
[03:39] <lekane> it worx just great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:39] <Nem|ltop> okay
[03:39] <overridex> anyone know of a firefox32 package of firefox 2.0 for amd64?
[03:39] <Nem|ltop> so am i ready to proceed?
[03:39] <judith_> So go ahead with that empty space
[03:39] <mcrandello> does anyone know what I have to put in the fontpath in xr7 to make it find the fixed font?
[03:39] <lekane> that was my 0.02 $ :p
[03:39] <Nem|ltop> going forward now
[03:39] <concept10> what application works well with ipods on linux?
[03:40] <ubuntu_> Like let say the 6.06 LT version start like DOS installation and always completed successfully.
[03:40] <Nem|ltop> okay this is crucial guys
[03:40] <Nem|ltop> its at the confirmation page
[03:40] <LjL> concept10: i think Amarok does a decent job, but it's a KDE application
[03:40] <Ademan> concept10: amarok and rhythmbox both work well
[03:40] <Nem|ltop> and it says "GRUB will be installed to (hd0)"
[03:40] <ubuntu_> spdf: any idea?
[03:40] <Ademan> rhythmbox is the GNOME one, but amarok is preffered by many people
[03:40] <suddse> So what if it's a KDE application? Amarok is the best.
[03:40] <concept10> i guess i need to reinstall rhythmbox
[03:40] <talldave> still having problems with nvidia drivers in edgy, have tried to indtall again, but no joy, yet i can run failsafe gnome
[03:40] <spdf> ubuntu_, that'd be the alternate cd iso
[03:40] <suddse> ALSO, PUT KUICKSHOW BACK .
[03:41] <|dyn4mx|> use gtkpod
[03:41] <Anderson> If anyone  like to buy MP4 and MP3 just find me by Skype: eurone-cn
[03:41] <_goofy_> -
[03:41] <LjL> !caps | suddse, shouting won't give it back to you ;)
[03:41] <ubotu> suddse, shouting won't give it back to you ;): PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:41] <spdf> ubuntu_, You could try downloading that and trying it
[03:41] <concept10> im surprised that ubuntu doesnt mount show the device as an ipod
[03:41] <jvai> lol
[03:41] <Nem|ltop> judith_, how do i know if hd0 is the correct drive to install grub to
[03:41] <ubuntu_> spdf which one you told me to download?
[03:41] <Polygon89> hey, im currently updating using the dist upgrade thing, and its taking literally forever (14 k/s!!) so im downloading the iso... question is, is it safe to kill this dist upgrade thing using system monitor and how do i upgrade using the livecd?
[03:41] <spdf> ubuntu_, Look for the "Alternate" iso
[03:41] <rayok> help?! trying to install but i get a black screen after the first progress bar goes away :( 0 checksums failed, pc is athlon 2600+ with radeon 9800 pro, 20.1" widescreen
[03:41] <Xenodamus> hi, are there any good open source computer algebra systems for linux?
[03:42] <ubuntu_> OK
[03:42] <spdf> ubuntu_, Its a text based installation
[03:42] <ubuntu_> thanks
[03:42] <suddse> Dudes, capital letters isn't real yelling. If you shout capital letters and hurt your ears that's your fault. You dudes are nerds. : )
[03:42] <judith_> Nem|ltop: let me ask....how many physical hard drives do you have?
[03:42] <deema> I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it is showing "x.org server modules that should be loaded by default" I'm confused
[03:42] <LjL> suddse, a Gnome user might care about installing a KDE application, due to all the additional libraries that they'll need to install, and the lack of integration with Gnome... so they should be made aware of it
[03:42] <Nem|ltop> judith_, 3, two of them are in a RAID stripe
[03:42] <JoseStefan> deema, leave them as they were
[03:42] <gansinho> hello, I'm using edgy with xgl on, and I have no turn off and restart buttons in the turn off menu
[03:42] <CorpseFeeder> please help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28549/ here is the contents of my sources list. My friend has the same sources list file but cannot find realplayer in synaptic. What is the problem and how do we fix it?
[03:43] <Nem|ltop> judith_ XP is on a 320gb seagate and im setting aside 20 for ubuntu on that same drive
[03:43] <Polygon89> hey, im currently updating using the dist upgrade thing, and its taking literally forever (14 k/s!!) so im downloading the iso... question is, is it safe to kill this dist upgrade thing using system monitor and how do i upgrade using the livecd?
[03:43] <suddse> I'm a gnome user, it's dumb to not use KDE apps, especially ones as awesome of Amarok. Qt and GTK don't look that different, and Nautilus and amarok work together fine ... what else do you want?
[03:43] <JoseStefan> gansinho, #ubuntu-xgl
[03:43] <bruenig> Polygon89, if you are going to get the iso and reformat, go ahead
[03:43] <Polygon89> i dont really want to reformat, is that the only way?
[03:43] <JoseStefan> Polygon89, the live CD cant upgrade, you need the alternate CD
[03:44] <Xenodamus> so no one here is familiar with computer algebra systems?
[03:44] <judith_> RAID?? Then I cannot offer confident help over there.
[03:44] <bruenig> Polygon89, oh I thought that is why you were going to get the iso
[03:44] <suddse> but , hey, put kuickshow back. the argument about imlib is bogus ... particularly when it still ships fine with dapper and edgy.
[03:44] <Nem|ltop> judith_, not trying to install on the RAID array
[03:44] <dooglus> Polygon89: you're using apt-get?
[03:44] <LjL> suddse: nothing. you're perfectly free to use that setup, and i believe your word that it works nicely. doesn't mean i shouldn't mention to people that something is a KDE app rather than a Gnome app or viceversa
[03:44] <Polygon89> im using the update manager -c
[03:44] <Polygon89> and its downloading at 14 k/s
[03:44] <Nem|ltop> judith_, the drive i'm trying to install this on is /dev/sdc if that helps
[03:44] <Polygon89> which will finish in like a day
[03:44] <gansinho> I installed edgy during its beta time, it'll automatically update now?
[03:44] <dooglus> Polygon89: if so, it's quite safe to control-c it, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to use a faster mirror and restart the command.  it'll continue where it left off.
[03:44] <Pyru> Hello I am running an AMD Turion 64 Acer laptop with a built in wireless card, how do i enable it in ubuntu as the list it doesn't appear when i type iwconfig
[03:44] <judith_> Nem|ltop: You see, You forst said you had sda*, then I saw hd0!
[03:44] <LjL> gansinho: yes
[03:45] <mcrandello> how can I downgrade to dapper this was a huge mistake I just want it to work again
[03:45] <JoseStefan> gansinho, yes, with regular daily updates
[03:45] <Polygon89> where do i get a list of mirrors
[03:45] <LjL> !downgrade > mcrandello
[03:45] <gansinho> thanks a lot JoseStefan and LjL
[03:45] <Nem|ltop> judith_, at the confirmation page at the last step it says "GRUB will be installed to hda0"
[03:45] <CorpseFeeder> i don't undersatnd why I can see realplayer 10 in my synaptic, but my friend can't.. suggestions anyone?
[03:45] <dooglus> Polygon89: I don't know what update-manager -c does, so I can't advise on that, sorry.  I would guess it's OK to do the same as I suggested, but I don't know.
[03:45] <Pyru> Hello I am running an AMD Turion 64 Acer laptop with a built in wireless card, how do i enable it in ubuntu as the list it doesn't appear when i type iwconfig
[03:45] <Nem|ltop> judith_, should I replace hd0 with something?
[03:45] <bruenig> CorpseFeeder, you two probably don't have the same sources.list
[03:45] <crimsun> CorpseFeeder: because you have dapper-commercial enabled and your friend doesn't.
[03:45] <thrice`> !repos | CorpseFeeder
[03:45] <ubotu> CorpseFeeder: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:45] <LjL> Polygon89: dunno, but they're mostly xx.archive.ubuntu.com, where xx is a nation's abbreviation, like fr, es, it, ca, de...
[03:46] <mcrandello> great so I'm stuck with a broken system and there's no way to go back because it might break it more?
[03:46] <judith_> Nem|ltop: go ahead
[03:46] <suddse> LjL, yeah it does. It is patently retarded that Gnome starts a new project of everything when KDE already has mature and good implementations. Qt is free now, and it's ridiculous to waste that much energy when it could be put into improving whichever desktop environment has the more mature app just because the widgets are gray-blue instead of gray-gray.
[03:46] <CorpseFeeder> but we both have identical sources.lst
[03:46] <Polygon89> basically it just launches the update manager to download/upgrade... and ill try that ljl
[03:46] <Nem|ltop> judith_, it won't overwrite ANY of my windows files though right? where is getting hd0 if my drives are /dev/sda-c?
[03:46] <Pyru> Hello I am running an AMD Turion 64 Acer laptop with a built in wireless card, how do i enable it in ubuntu as the list it doesn't appear when i type iwconfig
[03:46] <spdf> Polygon89, http://mirrors.xmission.com/ubuntu/ is pretty fast
[03:46] <LjL> suddse: that's offtopic. we can discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:46] <JoseStefan> mcrandello, you can try fixing the broken upgrade, most issues can be solved
[03:47] <Polygon89> can i paste that into the sources.list and it shall upgrade faster?
[03:47] <suddse> LjL, not really. But anyway, guys, put kuickshow back.
[03:47] <dooglus> Polygon89: I put a list of mirrors which seem to be working and up-to-date here: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/mirrors.txt
[03:48] <Falstiu1> Pyru: you'll have to find out what chipset your wireless card uses and then install an opensource driver for it or use ndiswrapper with the windows driver.
[03:48] <Polygon89> dooglus: so i pick one of those mirrors and replace it wherever i see like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main"
[03:48] <Pyru> Falstiu1: on my old laptop ubuntu showed it installed automatically
[03:48] <Nem|ltop> argh
[03:48] <Pyru> I didn't have to install ndiswrapper or any drivers
[03:48] <Pyru> it detected it upon installation
[03:48] <DarqFiber> anyone have a good how-to on how to update kernel to 2.6.18,1 ?
[03:49] <spdf> Pyru, go to the terminal and run lspci
[03:49] <Nem|ltop> holy crap where did judith go
[03:49] <Nem|ltop> ok guys i need help chosing where grub will be installed to
[03:49] <suddse> whoa guys, what happens if I format the partition with GRUB on it. Can I apt-get install grub and have it work like magic again?
[03:49] <Pyru> spdf: then what :P
[03:49] <spdf> Pyru, That should give you the chipset (in theory), then we/you can go from there
[03:49] <deema> yo
[03:49] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, isn't there an option to install on unpartitioned space?
[03:49] <deema> it didn't help
[03:49] <deema> Jose
[03:49] <deema> I did the reconfigure
[03:49] <minerale> Hi, how can Upgrade to the latest version?
[03:49] <bianconeri> Ok my problem with tor is solved...just install the plugin for FF fox tor ... https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3606/
[03:50] <Nem|ltop> JoseStefan, im on the ready to install page, and it has a place to type in the "device for boot loader installation"
[03:50] <dooglus> Polygon89: leave the security lines alone.  but you can change the rest.  the lines in that file are complete sources.list lines, they're just base URLs
[03:50] <JoseStefan> deema, error?
[03:50] <Nem|ltop> JoseStefan, now would that device not be "sdc"
[03:50] <deema> no error
[03:50] <Nem|ltop> or rather (sdc)
[03:50] <raghu206> ! edgy
[03:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[03:50] <Polygon89> so basically just replace archive.ubuntu.com with whatever
[03:50] <Nem|ltop> WITH parentheses
[03:50] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, i dont remember my install asking that
[03:50] <deema> JoseStefan, I still can't get a different option to change refresh rate
[03:50] <dooglus> Polygon89: for example, I'm using this line now, and getting good speed (but then, I'm close to germany): deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy           main restricted universe multiverse
[03:50] <Nem|ltop> JoseStefan, the default value in there is hd0 and i don't think i have hd0
[03:50] <suddse> minerale, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. Keep your eye on that once the downloads finish, because it will ask a few questions. Once that finishes, run it again : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade . Reboot, be happy.
[03:51] <suddse> Except I don't know how you could be without kuickshow
[03:51] <mcrandello> okay it's not starting X when I type startx it just says "xinit:server error" and also it doesn't put anything in /var/log/ at all does anyone know what I did that could have broke it?
[03:51] <rayok> help?! trying to install but i get a black screen after the first progress bar goes away :( 0 checksums failed, pc is athlon 2600+ with radeon 9800 pro, 20.1" widescreen
[03:51] <JoseStefan> deema, refresh rate is locked? but you can change resolutions?
[03:51] <Polygon89> ok ill try adding a us. to the archive and see if that changes anything
[03:51] <Falstiu1> Pyru: if it worked before, you should still find out what chipset it is.  Then you can check if the driver is install and loaded.  You run lspci as spdf suggested and look for something that sounds like your wireless.
[03:51] <deema> yes
[03:51] <Polygon89> so i can just kill the update manager and run it again and it should just start up where it took off?
[03:51] <Nem|ltop> JoseStefan, the drive i am trying to install on is /dev/sdc, so would I be putting (sdc) in here?
[03:51] <nalioth> Polygon89: yes
[03:51] <JoseStefan> deema, thats the same as i have it :/
[03:51] <Polygon89> ok i shall do that
[03:51] <deema> JoseStefan, so how do I change that?
[03:51] <dooglus> Polygon89: and if it complains about "bad signatures", beware.  it might mean that the mirror can't be trusted.
[03:51] <AngryElf_> so i put edgy on my amd64 and the kernel running is 2.6.17-10-generic.....so i apt-get install'd linux-image-amd64 and there's no new kernel in /boot......why would that be?
[03:51] <GeorgeDutch> Hello i am on the Edgy Eft live/install dvd and when i try to resize my partition with xp and make a new partition for ubuntu i get an error how can i fix this please?
[03:51] <JoseStefan> deema, dont know, let me know when you find out ;)
[03:52] <Polygon89> ok
[03:52] <deema> :-(
[03:52] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, i wouldnt know how to answer that without give you bad info
[03:52] <Nem|ltop> ok well can anybody here answer this?
[03:52] <Nem|ltop> i just want to get this done so i can get some work done but don't want to destroy my windows partition
[03:52] <bintut> hello all..
[03:53] <Blacken> VMware player/server and Edgy--anyone tried to install it?
[03:53] <bintut> anyone here can point me a good apt mirror repository howto for ubuntu?
[03:53] <AngryElf_> now after apt-get install linux-image-amd64-generic it too isn't in /boot.....what's going on?
[03:54] <dawm> anyone willing to lend a hand? terminal wont open (just installed, just setup dual displays) now it wont open
[03:54] <LjL> !repos > bintut
[03:54] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, if possible try starting with the windows partition and the rest as unpartitioned space, should be easier
[03:54] <LjL> Blacken: yes
[03:54] <LjL> Blacken: i have player installed.
[03:54] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, ubuntu should show an option to install on the free space
[03:54] <Nem|ltop> JoseStefan, thats exactly what i did
[03:54] <deema> GAWD
[03:54] <deema> such a simple thing
[03:54] <glick> damn all the kernel channels are super dead
[03:54] <deema> can't figure it out
[03:54] <Blacken> LjL: Any special steps you had to take?
[03:54] <Nem|ltop> JoseStefan, theres a 270 something partition in ntfs, 2gb for swap and 18gb for /
[03:55] <LjL> Blacken: no, aside from getting a virtual machine and... well, running vmplayer as root
[03:55] <Blacken> LjL: ...it has to run as root?
[03:55] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, did you create the linux partitions manually or did you let ubuntu do it?
[03:55] <LjL> Blacken: it does for me.
[03:55] <Blacken> (Is it in a repository somewhere?)
[03:55] <glick> dare i ask if there are any kernel hackers in here?
[03:55] <LjL> Blacken: i think it most definitely shouldn't, though
[03:55] <bintut> LjL: i want to know how to setup my own apt mirror repository on ubuntu..
[03:55] <LjL> !info vmware-player | blacken
[03:55] <spdf> AngryElf, Verify that gnome-terminal is installed
[03:55] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[03:55] <sproingie> ooooKAY, what happened to the fonts in firefox?
[03:55] <Nem|ltop> JoseStefan, i used that manual gparted thing that comes with ubuntu
[03:55] <Blacken> LjL: thanks, I don't have access to it. :p
[03:55] <AngryElf> spdf, what's that got to do with it?
[03:56] <sproingie> everything else looks okay, firefox's fonts are chunky
[03:56] <Blacken> It won't update for me.
[03:56] <adam_swe> hi, i installed a LAMP server on my 6.06 box, using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP . i get this error "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)" at 9.2 in the wiki. can anyone help me please?
[03:56] <LjL> Blacken, it's there in dapper as well
[03:56] <CorpseFeeder> what's the best way to update to 6.10? and is it advisable to do so?
[03:56] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, the installer can do all that automatically, but you would have to remove the linux partitions you created earlier, so that installs fresh
[03:56] <Blacken> LjL: I mean that I can't access the multiverse.
[03:56] <spdf> AngryElf, Er, are we talking about VTs, or a gui terminal window?
[03:56] <alekz> hi, i cant see the bootsplash when grub loads ubuntu, i just see the ubuntu login screen after several minutes, how can i fix that ?
[03:56] <Nem|ltop> JoseStefan, i didn't want the installer "automatically" formatting my ntfs partition lol
[03:56] <LjL> bintut, i see, i don't have a howto handy for that... but what do you want to do precisely? there are various tools that let you "somehow" create a repository
[03:56] <GeorgeDutch> I am unable to make a partition with gpart can anybody help me please?
[03:56] <AngryElf> spdf, i asked about amd64 kernels not showing up in /boot
[03:56] <jherm> Should  I ask en edgy question here, or in #ubuntu+1 ?
[03:56] <LjL> Blacken, why? due to traffic?
[03:57] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, it shouldnt format your NTFS, it should install on the unpartitioned space on the hard drive
[03:57] <bimberi> bintut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy
[03:57] <Blacken> LjL: probably.
[03:57] <LjL> !edgy | jherm, here, because...
[03:57] <ubotu> jherm, here, because...: Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[03:57] <LjL> Blacken: try switching to another mirror.
[03:57] <Nem|ltop> JoseStefan, i think the / and swap partitions i made seem fine
[03:57] <spdf> AngryElf, Oh yah, way of. that was for dawm
[03:57] <v3l0ct> #ubuntu+1 is not available
[03:57] <DrBanzai> Hey, how do I find out what is making my HD light stay on solid all the time?
[03:57] <bintut> LjL: i want to have my own ubuntu repository for my lan
[03:57] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, maybe, but that also means the installer might ask extra questions
[03:57] <glick> can the ubuntu names get any gayer?
[03:57] <PuppiesOnAcid> Where ist he off-topic ubuntu chan?
[03:57] <dawm> xterm works, but the gnome terminal wont open, it tries to but then nothing happens
[03:57] <glick> fiesty fawn?!
[03:57] <glick> c'mon man!
[03:58] <Nem|ltop> crap
[03:58] <mhz> hey, I would like to create several different system images (1 per profile) and choose the one to boot at booting time (kind of grub-like). Any suggestions?
[03:58] <Nem|ltop> well i see nothing logically wrong with the change i made
[03:58] <sproingie> feisty?  bah.  i was hoping for "funky fawn"
[03:58] <LjL> !apt-cacher | bintut
[03:58] <spdf> alekz, sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash
[03:58] <ubotu> apt-cacher: caching proxy system for Debian package and source files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3 (edgy), package size 59 kB, installed size 284 kB
[03:58] <LjL> !apt-proxy | bintut
[03:58] <Nem|ltop> because it said it would install grub to hd0
[03:58] <jherm> I'm almost positive I've installed my root filesystem to a logical partition, with a seperate primary boot partition... could anyone tell me why the Edgy installer tells me there's "no root file system?"
[03:58] <ubotu> apt-proxy: Debian archive proxy and partial mirror builder. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.9.35ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 76 kB, installed size 408 kB
[03:58] <DarqFiber> no more freecontrib.org ?
[03:58] <adam_swe> hi, i installed a LAMP server on my 6.06 box, using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP . i get this error "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)" at 9.2 in the wiki. can anyone help me please?
[03:58] <Nem|ltop> and i don't have hd0 i have /dev/sdc
[03:58] <bintut> thanks bimberi.. :)
[03:58] <deema> Please somebody help. how do I get more options in Screen Resolution for refresh rate? It's locked to only one option
[03:58] <alekz> thanks spdf i'll try =)
[03:58] <Blacken> DarqFiber: It's been exploded by traffic. :p
[03:58] <bimberi> bintut: np :)
[03:58] <jherm> I'm almost positive I've installed / to a logical partition with a seperate primary boot partition
[03:58] <DarqFiber> blacken will it come back ?
[03:58] <spdf> alekz, It'll generate the initrd image for your current kernel with the splash image..
[03:58] <Blacken> DarqFiber: Probably.
[03:59] <alekz> thanks =)
[03:59] <DarqFiber> any idea how to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.18.1 ?
[03:59] <LjL> !kernel > DarqFiber
[03:59] <spdf> dawm, try sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal
[03:59] <aardfox> How do I run the script in step 2 of this guide? http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/WineCVS.sh
[03:59] <bintut> !apt-mirror > bintut
[03:59] <rmd_> i must say that 6.10 is much, much quicker to boot up
[03:59] <DarqFiber> thanks LjL
[03:59] <v3l0ct> !kernel > v3l0ct
[03:59] <dawm> its already installed
[04:00] <adam_swe> how long does it take to upgrade?
[04:00] <Agrajag> I'm having a pretty bizarre problem with the installer, I'm trying to tell it to wipe my old root partition and use it as / again, but the partitioner keeps telling me I have no root file system and won't let me continue
[04:00] <spdf> aardfox, that's not the guide, its the script. But, chmod +x WineCVS.sh, and then ./WineCVS.sh
[04:00] <ltR^> is there a way to restart the state of the placement of the menubar/clock etc
[04:00] <LjL> bintut: right, there's that one as well. though for a LAN you're probably better off with apt-proxy or apt-cacher IMHO
[04:00] <tnnc> i am installing edgy and it has stoped  and telling me that it will remove some gnome packages unless i have unverise enables i am not sure is there an way i can slwcted it now or add it before i contuine on
[04:00] <bintut> LjL and bimberi:  what do you suggest, apt-proxy or apt-mirror?
[04:00] <rmd_> but i still can't make my only gnome bar be covered by windows :-/
[04:00] <bintut> LjL: ok..
[04:00] <jrattner1> Where is U.S. torrent edgy?
[04:00] <Nem|ltop> holy jesus christ
[04:01] <Nem|ltop> ERROR
[04:01] <LjL> bintut, with apt-proxy you don't have to worry about putting things into it, they'll just be downloaded when users request them, and then stay cached
[04:01] <shadowhywind> hi all, i just upgraded to edge eft *which includes firefox 2) when ever i go to a webpage with flash it closes firefox
[04:01] <sivik> which edgy repo is the 64 bit kernel located, i want to install it along with with this one to test some stuff
[04:01] <jherm86> I'm almost positive I've installed my root filesystem to a logical partition before, with a seperate primary boot partition... could anyone tell me why the Edgy installer tells me there's "no root file system?"
[04:01] <Nem|ltop> "Executing 'grub install (sdc)' failed. This is a fatal error. Can somebody help me with this"
[04:01] <LjL> jrattner1:  http://tinyurl.com/ybflyf
[04:01] <adam_swe> hi, how long does it take to upgrade???
[04:01] <sproingie> ok, not seeing it in the known issues list, so what's with the super grungy fonts in edgy's firefox?
[04:01] <JoseStefan> jrattner1, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[04:01] <jrattner1> LjL, I dont see anything there for the U.S.
[04:01] <sivik> Nem|ltop, what is the error number?
[04:01] <jrattner1> ah
[04:01] <deema> Please somebody help. how do I get more options in Screen Resolution for refresh rate? It's locked to only one option
[04:01] <Nem|ltop> no error number
[04:01] <Nem|ltop> i guess sdc doesn't exist
[04:01] <dooglus> jrattner1: http://snurl.com/edgytorrents
[04:01] <djmccormick> anyone know a fix for lighttpd package in ubuntu, the way it won't stop or anything?
[04:01] <tnnc> i am installing edgy and it has stoped  and telling me that it will remove some gnome packages unless i have unverise enables i am not sure is there an way i can slwcted it now or add it before i contuine on
[04:02] <Nem|ltop> sivik im just trying to install grub correctly
[04:02] <bimberi> bintut: no recommendation.  I haven't used them - just knew of its existence :)
[04:02] <spdf> jrattner1, torrents aren't specific to region of the world..
[04:02] <LjL> jrattner1: use any of them, they're the same torrent
[04:02] <jrattner1> k thanks
[04:02] <adam_swe> how long does it take to upgrade?
[04:02] <bintut> LjL: but i want that my users will not go out anymore.. meaning, they cannot use the internet.  i want them to install from my local apt repository only
[04:02] <dooglus> jrattner1: torrents are global.  the torrent client will use whichever peers are the fastest, which will probably be ones close to you
[04:02] <bintut> bimberi: it's ok.. thanks..
[04:02] <CorpseFeeder> is there a limit to the number of items I can add to the applications menu with alacarte menu editor? for some reason it won't let me add stuff anymore. Have I broken it?
[04:03] <LjL> bintut, but yes, technically they won't be using the internet -- they'll only access your local repository. it is then the said local repository that fetches stuff from the internet
[04:03] <Nem|ltop> jeeesus christ guys
[04:03] <Blacken> Hm, I can't find any working repos.
[04:03] <Nem|ltop> what have i friggn done
[04:03] <DarqFiber> which wireless card works ootb with edgy ?
[04:03] <adam_swe> how long does it take to upgrade?
[04:03] <bintut> LjL: ok.  i'll use apt-proxy then.. thank you.. :)
[04:03] <DarqFiber> time to junk this broadcom methinks
[04:03] <tnnc> i am installing edgy and it has stoped  and telling me that it will remove some gnome packages unless i have unverise enables i am not sure is there an way i can slwcted it now or add it before i contuine on
[04:03] <DrBanzai> Hey, how do I find out what is making my HD light stay on solid all the time?
[04:03] <spdf> DarqFiber, My broadcom works. Whats the problem?
[04:04] <Nem|ltop> is there anybody here that i can send a message to about correctly setting up dual boot
[04:04] <LjL> !dualboot > Nem|ltop
[04:04] <adam_swe> how long does it take to upgrade?????
[04:04] <LinuxGuy2006_> can someone point me to links for setting up GnuPG and SSH
[04:04] <Nem|ltop> that does not help me
[04:04] <DarqFiber> spdf I got as far as seeing networks but couldn't join
[04:04] <_goofy_> i know that you can swap sata drive without sutting down the computer but can you add one without removing one?
[04:04] <Nem|ltop> i went there
[04:04] <deema> Please somebody help. how do I get more options in Screen Resolution for refresh rate? It's locked to only one option
[04:04] <Nem|ltop> i need to actually talk to a person
[04:04] <Laz_> Any Ubuntu Mirror that is fast?
[04:04] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, just start the installer from zero
[04:04] <LjL> !gpg > LinuxGuy2006_
[04:04] <Nem|ltop> thats what i did three times now
[04:04] <spdf> DarqFiber, Ahh, so the interface is up atleast
[04:04] <max_> Hmm.. Just booted from the Edgy CD, and even with Safe Graphics mode it loads but with a black screen - ie. I hear the sounds and all, it just doesn't show anything... Anyone got any hints please?
[04:05] <riddlebox> I upgraded to edgy, and now when I go to some sites, firefox just quits
[04:05] <Nem|ltop> but i need to actually talk to somebody to help guide me through it so i can get out of here
[04:05] <Agrajag> I'm having a pretty bizarre problem with the installer, I'm trying to tell it to wipe my old root partition and use it as / again, but the partitioner keeps telling me I have no root file system and won't let me continue
[04:05] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, and let ubuntu create the partitions for you
[04:05] <DarqFiber> spdf - yes I used nm gnome and the fwcutter and some firmware
[04:05] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, it should do the grub work too
[04:05] <DarqFiber> could see all networks
[04:05] <DarqFiber> just couldn't join any
[04:05] <Nem|ltop> can it clear partitions
[04:05] <adam_swe> how long does it take to upgrade?????
[04:05] <dawm> spdf, i get this when i try to run gnome-terminal  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28564/
[04:05] <bintut> anyone have an idea if it's possible to install i/pf on ubuntu?  :)
[04:05] <Nem|ltop> because i swear to jesus christ if it messes with my windows partition I will have serious problems
[04:05] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, you can clear partitions in windows if it makes you feel better
[04:06] <max_> Has anyone else experienced this problem? My laptop has an ATi X700XL
[04:06] <DarqFiber> spdf bcm4309 dell truemobile 1400
[04:06] <Blacken> Nem|ltop: Threats are a pretty pointless thing to do.
[04:06] <bintut> i/pf instead of iptables on ubuntu?
[04:06] <Nem|ltop> i wasn't threatening anybody
[04:06] <Nem|ltop> except maybe jesus christ?
[04:06] <jrib> Nem|ltop: make backups.
[04:06] <Nem|ltop> made backups but i also can't afford to lose a ton of time
[04:06] <adam_swe> how long does it take to upgrade?????
[04:06] <Laz_> Nem|ltop: Its going to mess your windows partition WATCHOUT!!!!
[04:06] <max_> lol
[04:06] <Nem|ltop> you're funny
[04:07] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, in windows, right click my computer, and hjt manage, you can clear partitions using disk management
[04:07] <riddlebox> adam_swe, time depends on your machine, but it really doesnt take that long
[04:07] <Nem|ltop> i now have 20gb of unpartitioned space
[04:07] <philbert> Does anyone know of an official apt mirror for Edgy?
[04:07] <spdf> DarqFiber, Hmm.. Can you set the essid for the network you want with iwconfig, then try dhclient <interface>
[04:07] <adam_swe> riddlebox, how much is the download?
[04:07] <max_> Hmm.. Just booted from the Edgy CD, and even with Safe Graphics mode it loads but with a black screen - ie. I hear the sounds and all, it just doesn't show anything... Anyone got any hints please?
[04:07] <tnnc> i am installing edgy and it has stoped  and telling me that it will remove some gnome packages unless i have unverise enables i am not sure is there an way i can slwcted it now or add it before i contuine on
[04:07] <ppj1010> anyone running edgy or dapper on a voodoo 3 ?
[04:07] <jherm86> I'm almost positive I've installed my root filesystem to a logical partition, with a seperate primary boot partition before... could anyone tell me why the Edgy installer tells me there's "no root file system?"
[04:08] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, ok, now start from zero, restart the PC if you want
[04:08] <DarqFiber> spdf - its a WPA network
[04:08] <Agrajag> jherm86: if you find out, tell me. I have the same problem
[04:08] <deema> Please somebody help. how do I get more options in Screen Resolution for refresh rate? It's locked to only one option
[04:08] <DarqFiber> spdf thats why I use NM
[04:08] <Agrajag> jherm86: and I'm only using primary partitions
[04:08] <DarqFiber> spdf think I should use wpa
[04:08] <spdf> DarqFiber, Do you have wpasupplicant installed? NM?
[04:08] <jordan> deema: What kind of graphics card do you have?
[04:08] <deema> Nvidia
[04:08] <DarqFiber> spdf - network-manager-gnome
[04:08] <v3l0ct> nvidia what
[04:08] <v3l0ct> be more specific
[04:08] <jordan> !nvidea | deema
[04:08] <adam_swe> how big is the upgrade in MB?
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidea - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <aardfox> Sorry I had to reboot, my system was temporarily borked after the eft update
[04:09] <DarqFiber> !nvidia
[04:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:09] <jherm86> Agrajag: It's weird because I've never had this problem before... it worked with Knot 2 and definitely Dapper worked
[04:09] <CorpseFeeder> i can't add items to menu with alacarte anymore. why?
[04:09] <JoseStefan> adam_swe, at least 700mb
[04:09] <aardfox> how do i run that script again? chmod WineCVS.sh ?
[04:09] <riddlebox> adam_swe, are you downloading the iso or you going to use apt-get?
[04:09] <spdf> aardfox, chmod +x WineCVS.sh
[04:09] <deema> oops
[04:09] <Nem|ltop> okay
[04:09] <RTB> there's no sound on my ubuntu system!
[04:09] <Nem|ltop> listen
[04:09] <spdf> aardfox, then ./WineCVS.sh
[04:09] <adam_swe> JoseStefan, thanks
[04:09] <RTB> my card must have done something
[04:09] <Amaranth> CorpseFeeder: You can, they just don't show up until you logout and back in
[04:09] <Nem|ltop> JoseStefan, i can't use the automatic thing
[04:09] <deema> so what must I do?
[04:09] <RTB> I got it working before
[04:09] <adam_swe> riddlebox, i was thinking to apt-get it
[04:09] <Nem|ltop> because the only option is to format the drive and that is not an option
[04:09] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, why ?
[04:09] <spdf> RTB, Volume is up?
[04:09] <alekz> spdf didnt work =(
[04:09] <philbert> Does anyone know of an official apt mirror for Edgy?
[04:09] <CorpseFeeder> aha!
[04:09] <Amaranth> CorpseFeeder: They show up in alacarte if you close it an reopen it but they won't show up in the menus until you logout
[04:10] <RTB> no
[04:10] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, i remember having other options
[04:10] <Nem|ltop> that is the only option that i get
[04:10] <TIM90> im trying to update my ubuntu i get this ,E: Type http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu is not known on line 51 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <TIM90> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[04:10] <jordan> !nvidia | deema
[04:10] <ubotu> deema: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:10] <Nem|ltop> so i have to manually set up the partition
[04:10] <bruenig> I used to be able to delete ~/.recently-used to clear the recently used list in places. Now when I do that the list remains, any ideas?
[04:10] <Nem|ltop> well im watching it and its not there :/
[04:10] <riddlebox> adam_swe, it takes a while to download then, and you will have to answer a few questions when it starts to upgrade
[04:10] <RTB> spdf: it's not even acknowleging the card
[04:10] <deema> they are already installed
[04:10] <Amaranth> CorpseFeeder: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-menus/+bug/64264 :(
[04:10] <riddlebox> adam_swe, I would just figure an hour to do it all on a decent connection
[04:10] <RTB> spdf: and volume control is having that "no" symbol
[04:10] <Nem|ltop> OKAY, guys let me explain the situation as it stands
[04:10] <aardfox> 'no such file or directory'
[04:10] <spdf> alekz, When you ran it you saw "update-initramfs: Generating .....yadda" though?
[04:10] <deema> jordan, they are installed
[04:10] <riddlebox> RTB, look into the users area and see if your user has rights to the sound
[04:10] <adam_swe> riddlebox, 700MB by apt-get? (i have a sucky connection)
[04:11] <CorpseFeeder> actually they don't show up if I close and re-oipen.. they jsut disappear, but I will log-out and see what happens
[04:11] <Nem|ltop> i have a 278gb ntfs partition /dev/sdc1, that can't be touched, /dev/sdc2 linux-swap /dev/sdc3 thats /
[04:11] <spdf> aardfox, save the script to your home directory
[04:11] <TIM90> E: Type http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu is not known on line 51 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:11] <TIM90> E: Unable to lock the list directorycan any one help im trying to update
[04:11] <Nem|ltop> does that all sound correct so far
[04:11] <alekz> spdf : sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash
[04:11] <alekz> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-386
[04:11] <GabeX> yo
[04:11] <Terminus> deema: refresh rate problems? you have to know the exact horizontal sync and vertical refresh of your monitor. might be in your monitor's manual.
[04:11] <riddlebox> TIM90, did you do sudo before apt-get?
[04:11] <GabeX> can someone help me?
[04:11] <Terminus> deema: and then you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:11] <deema> Terminus: i entered them already, no help!
[04:11] <spdf> alekz, hmm, assuming you booted into the same kernel then its a different issue
[04:11] <TIM90> yeh
[04:11] <Terminus> deema: did you restart X already?
[04:12] <deema> yes
[04:12] <alekz> spdf i booted in that kernel, is the last i have
[04:12] <TIM90> riddle it wont even let me install any thing
[04:12] <bimberi> philbert: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive has a list of mirrors
[04:12] <RTB> spdf: what was that you said
[04:12] <Nem|ltop> come on guysw
[04:12] <v3l0ct> TIM90, did you apt-get update first? Is this a new source?
[04:12] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, there should be at least 3 options: wipe the disk, re-size, use free space
[04:12] <Nem|ltop> jose, my partitions are correct
[04:12] <v1per> so weird.. if i want to get oowriter it says 247 mb (!) will be used
[04:12] <Nem|ltop> this should not be the problem
[04:12] <GabeX> anybody know how to get ubuntu 6.06 onto a wireless network?
[04:12] <TIM90> yeh ,sudo apt-get update
[04:12] <Nem|ltop> i need somebody who can help me set up grub with manual partitioning, thats all
[04:12] <philbert> bimberi: I'm looking for an apt mirror, not just for iso images
[04:12] <Terminus> deema: curious. changing the HorizSync and VertRefresh should have worked. unless you entered the wrong values.
[04:13] <Terminus> deema: what's your HorizSync and VertRefresh now?
[04:13] <Nem|ltop> ive wasted like an hour and a half on what appears to be a simple thing
[04:13] <bimberi> philbert: that's what I've given you
[04:13] <adam_swe> riddlebox, thx for the help but i g2g. bye! :)
[04:13] <deema> terminus, what I entered now?
[04:13] <RTB> and will edgy support ssh out of the box?
[04:13] <Terminus> deema: i have HorizSync: 28-51 and VertSync: 43-60 here
[04:13] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, i have never installed ubuntu with manual partitioning :/
[04:13] <Nem|ltop> okay
[04:13] <Terminus> deema: yes. your current values
[04:13] <Nem|ltop> who here has manutally partitioned for ubuntu?
[04:13] <Nem|ltop> manually
[04:13] <GabeX> how do i get 6.06 on a wireless connection?
[04:13] <TIM90> cant update :(
[04:13] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, I have
[04:13] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, i just use the free unpartitioned space
[04:14] <spdf> RTB, sshd will need to be installed
[04:14] <RTB> oh
[04:14] <philbert>  bimberi: perfect! thank you.
[04:14] <RTB> hmm
[04:14] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, can i message you
[04:14] <bruenig> !msg
[04:14] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[04:14] <bimberi> philbert: np :)
[04:14] <Tokenbad> anyone know how to share files in vmware between windows and linux?
[04:14] <v3l0ct> TIM90, I don't think that's a true source.  i've never seen that before
[04:14] <RTB> that will cause some problems
[04:14] <TIM90> E: Type http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu is not known on line 51 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:14] <TIM90> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[04:14] <TIM90> i have never seen it to
[04:14] <jherm86> TIM90: put "deb " before the URL
[04:14] <riddlebox> v3l0ct, I think it is a real source
[04:14] <Terminus> deema: be careful about those values. only use what's specified for your monitor or else you can fry your monitor.
[04:14] <jordan> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:15] <Nem|ltop> !msg bruenig hello?
[04:15] <jordan> sorry
[04:15] <GabeX> how do i get 6.06 on a wireless connection?
[04:15] <deema> horiz: 38-96, vert 50 - 160, same exact spec for my monitor
[04:15] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, ask it in here
[04:15] <Nem|ltop> bruenig my text gets freakin lost all the time but okay
[04:15] <jherm86> I'm almost positive I've installed my root filesystem to a logical partition, with a seperate primary boot partition before... could anyone tell me why the Edgy installer tells me there's "no root file system?"
[04:15] <v3l0ct> did you try http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu   I know that works
[04:15] <TIM90> can you tell me axactly what to type
[04:15] <Agrajag> jherm86: someone helped me a bit, there's a thread on the ubuntu forums which deal with our problem. Do you use ReiserFS?
[04:15] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, just use my name and I will see it
[04:15] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, here is my situation, 320gb seagate, windows xp is installed on it
[04:15] <TIM90> been trying this for so long
[04:15] <jherm86> TIM90: in the terminal, you need to type 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[04:15] <RTB> guess not...
[04:16] <Terminus> deema: ok, if that didn't work, i'm out of ideas. =(
[04:16] <RTB> sshd right?
[04:16] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, i set aside 20gb for ubuntu
[04:16] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, well there's your first problem
[04:16] <Agrajag> jherm86: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281209&highlight=edgy+root+.pyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281209&highlight=edgy+root+.py
[04:16] <GabeX> jfhgklasgj
[04:16] <GabeX> faggots
[04:16] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, its a problem i need to live with
[04:16] <spdf> RTB, Yep
[04:16] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, just kidding go ahead
[04:16] <RTB> ok
[04:16] <deema> Terminus, this is driving me crazy
[04:16] <Nem|ltop> hehe
[04:16] <max_> Seems like quite a few people have been having problems with Edgy CD hanging after bootsplash..
[04:16] <deema> :(
[04:16] <mattwestm> how do I stop the filesystem check on boot?
[04:16] <skepp> max_: I'm one of them
[04:16] <GabeX> niggers
[04:16] <max_> skepp - me too
[04:16] <alindeman> Hmm
[04:16] <bruenig> !language
[04:16] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:16] <GabeX> rofl
[04:16] <spdf> Ridiculous.
[04:16] <RTB> max_: some xorg funky stuff, but then it rectifies itself?
[04:16] <DarqFiber> spdf - is ndiswrapper working on edgy ? I may blacklist the bcm43xx and try that
[04:17] <GabeX> thought this room was moderated
[04:17] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, okay so i made 2 partitions, a 2gb one for linux-swap and 18gb ext3 which is intended for /, and i did this in the manual partitioner
[04:17] <Terminus> deema: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't give you the options?
[04:17] <GabeX> !language
[04:17] <TIM90> rolf Gabex
[04:17] <deema> it did
[04:17] <LjL> GabeX: please stop now
[04:17] <GabeX> dude
[04:17] <max_> RTB - really? I had it running for 15 minutes and nothing happened...
[04:17] <GabeX> someone help me
[04:17] <deema> Terminus, it did, no help!
[04:17] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, ok, and by the way 2 gb for swap is a bit much
[04:17] <JoseStefan> GabeX, it is
[04:17] <GabeX> why are you ignoring me
[04:17] <spdf> DarqFiber, Try turning off wpa on the router to start
[04:17] <TIM90> no nigger
[04:17] <wastrel> !patience
[04:17] <bimberi> GabeX: ask a better question
[04:17] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:17] <jherm86> Agrajag: Thank you so much!
[04:17] <GabeX> lol tim
[04:17] <riddlebox> GabeX, sometimes people are helping others
[04:17] <TIM90> rolf
[04:17] <GabeX> ily
[04:17] <LjL> TIM90: don't
[04:17] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, bruenig, i have 2gb ram and im just going to stick with it
[04:17] <Agrajag> jherm86: so far it got me into the install part
[04:17] <GabeX> ROFL
[04:17] <glick> GabeX, why should anyone help you if your throwing around racial slurs
[04:17] <GabeX> ok dude
[04:17] <GabeX> because
[04:17] <GabeX> you're a spic
[04:17] <Terminus> deema: maybe you're running at max resolution? if you lower your resolution, do you get more refresh rates?
[04:17] <wastrel> !enter
[04:17] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:17] <GabeX> oh my god
[04:17] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, okay so im ready to move on but i MUSt have it install grub correctly and i need your help with that
[04:17] <GabeX> the next hitler room
[04:17] <Agrajag> jherm86: I'm crossing my fingers as to whether or not it will give me a bootable system at the end of it
[04:17] <godmachine81> Fetched 6B in 6s (1B/s)
[04:17] <godmachine81> Segmentation faultsts... 0%
[04:17] <deema> Terminus, nope!
[04:17] <godmachine81> ?
[04:18] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, this drive is /dev/sdc
[04:18] <wastrel> <3 ljl
[04:18] <jherm86> Agrajag: ok, thanks alot
[04:18] <RTB> max_: I have some awful 1999-ish integrated mobo graphics
[04:18] <godmachine81> what is Segmentation faultsts
[04:18] <LjL> !patience > gabex
[04:18] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, it should do it automatically.
[04:18] <TIM90> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh
[04:18] <godmachine81> ????
[04:18] <v3l0ct> thanks LjL
[04:18] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, it didn't last time
[04:18] <jherm86> Agrajag: like i said, i'm 99% sure it worked on Dapper, and before that too
[04:18] <Terminus> deema: ok. i really am out of ideas.
[04:18] <spdf> DarqFiber, Should see if you can get it to connect without encryption and go from there..
[04:18] <TIM90> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[04:18] <deema> :-(
[04:18] <Tokenbad> anyone know how to share files in vmware between windows and linux?
[04:18] <jherm86> er, on Knot 2 i think it worked i mean
[04:18] <RTB> max_: they probably FOSSed the drivers
[04:18] <max_> RTB - heh! My X700XL (ATi) is having a bit of trouble too
[04:18] <max_> RTB - aye
[04:18] <Agrajag> jherm86: you'd think a bug like that would be fixed by now. Oh well
[04:18] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, well if you are using the graphical installer, there generally is not much you can do to change it until after it installs
[04:18] <skepp> the default-"root" parameter for the live-Cd is "root=/dev/ram", right?
[04:18] <riddlebox> GabeX, is your wireless card detected?
[04:18] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, I'm at the ready to install window and it says "grub will be installed to (hd0)"
[04:18] <bianconeri> does anybody know whats the equivelant of winrar on linux? I want to chunk up a large wmv video??
[04:18] <RTB> max_: I don't have an actual graphics card
[04:18] <Hikaru79> Hi; when trying to install Edgy from the desktop CD, it always hangs at 34% of "Copying Files". I have tried it using two different CD Drives, and I *have* run the "Check CD for defects" scan, and it came out fine; is htis a known problem?
[04:18] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, how do i know if this is correct
[04:19] <Terminus> deema: what does xvidtune say?
[04:19] <max_> RTB - you must have onboard?
[04:19] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, hd0 is your first hard drive, is that where you are installing ubuntu?
[04:19] <jherm86> They shipped the installer broken... not surprising. I wonder how many CDs its already been burned to, and how many people it won't affect :/
[04:19] <TIM90> what di i edit on the souce list
[04:19] <RTB> max_: yeah probably
[04:19] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, i am installing ubuntu to /dev/sdc
[04:19] <v3l0ct> TIM90, you are running breezy?
[04:19] <RTB> jherm86: it works fine on me
[04:19] <JoseStefan> !ops
[04:19] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, so that is your third hard drive? or...
[04:19] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[04:19] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, i tried putting in (sdc) with the parenthesis in instead of (hd0) and it failed
[04:19] <max_> RTB - hehe. I have half a mind to mount the iso and attempt to fix the problem... It could be a foxxed xorg.conf setting
[04:19] <RTB> GabeX: stop messing w/the revolving door
[04:19] <khermans_> jon is gay
[04:19] <riddlebox> !msg GabeX
[04:20] <JoseStefan> thanks LjL
[04:20] <sproingie> hear ye, hear ye, art thine fonts in edgy hideous to behold?  see  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyKnownIssues
[04:20] <jordan> !ops | GabeX
[04:20] <ubotu> GabeX: Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[04:20] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, if that is your third hard drive, put hd2
[04:20] <jherm86> TIM90: replace "http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu" with "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu"
[04:20] <max_> Or a bug in xorg..
[04:20] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, yeah i have 3 hard drives, 2 are on raid and are for all intents and purposes, not involved in this process
[04:20] <khermans_> i mean jon is guy
[04:20] <TIM90> v3l0ct, Ubunutu, dapper break
[04:20] <jherm86> i am a guy
[04:20] <TIM90> 6.06 lts
[04:20] <Amaranth> wtf was that?
[04:20] <riddlebox> !msg |GabeX
[04:20] <ubotu> GabeX: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[04:20] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, grub counts up from 0, so hd0 is the first hard drive, hd1 is the second and so forth
[04:20] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, so sdc would definitely be hd2?
[04:20] <UdontKnow> Amaranth: a kline
[04:20] <RTB> gabex has suffered a weeklong gline
[04:20] <JoseStefan> i dont  even understand why they try it
[04:20] <b^j> so i am trying ot do an edgy install and the live cd is hanging at the ubuntu logo, is this a known issue or anything? i can't find any info on it
[04:20] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, yes
[04:20] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, i keep the parentheses right?
[04:20] <TIM90> Onother thig my computer has this hissing noise
[04:20] <RTB> I've been on the outside
[04:20] <CorpseFeeder> I must still be doing something wrong because I *still* can't add anything to alacarte menu editor - even after logging out and back in.
[04:21] <khermans_> who wants me to lick their ubuntu?
[04:21] <RTB> oh, me
[04:21] <Tokenbad> ok I have vmware-server running and want to move some files from my linux drive to use within windows...anyone know how?
[04:21] <RTB> but there's no ssh
[04:21] <RTB> so don't bother licking it
[04:21] <Amaranth> CorpseFeeder: Run it from a terminal, see if there are any errors
[04:21] <jherm86> TIM90: bring it to best buy
[04:21] <JoseStefan> it's like going to Police HQ and saying you are a thief...
[04:21] <Amaranth> LjL: a bit harsh
[04:21] <TIM90> no its only when i boot to ubunt
[04:21] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, yeah, I didn't use that grub option. I did see it when I reformatted, but what partition are you installing ubuntu on
[04:21] <LjL> Amaranth: wasn't the first time...
[04:21] <tnnc> ubuntu rocks new wdgy
[04:21] <Amaranth> ah
[04:21] <fiveiron> so isn't there a way in edgy to flip a gconf switch and have compiz running?
[04:21] <tnnc> edgy
[04:21] <TIM90> windows runs fine no hissing at all
[04:22] <goose> hmm so i upgraded to ubuntu. but the fonts in firefox look a little fuzzy
[04:22] <TSWoodV> Had sound working find on Toshiba laptop under Dapper.  Doesn't now work under Edgy.  How should I go about troubleshooting this?
[04:22] <goose> erm.. upgraded to edgy
[04:22] <deema> !nvidia
[04:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:22] <sproingie> goose: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyKnownIssues
[04:22] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, grub works the same for partitions (hd2,0) would be your first partition (hd2,1) would be second partition and so forth
[04:22] <Amaranth> !sound | TSWoodV
[04:22] <ubotu> TSWoodV: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:22] <goose> aha sproingie thanks =)
[04:22] <kitche> fiveiron: nope you need to use a session or make a script to start it
[04:22] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, i have 3 partitions on hd2 and one is an XP ntfs partition
[04:22] <godmachine81> who here knows what Segmentation Faultsts is when doing apt-get update or apt-get dist-upgrade??????
[04:22] <KeithWeisshar> can you order ubuntu dvd's from frozentech.com
[04:22] <KeithWeisshar> they're cheap
[04:22] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, which partition are you putting ubuntu on?
[04:23] <Nem|ltop> lemme check
[04:23] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, I assume the second? with swap as third?
[04:23] <TIM90> I think i night be my Radeon card its very cheap ,typical ATI
[04:23] <CorpseFeeder> amaranth: how do I run menu editor from terminal?
[04:23] <bruenig> or maybe the third with swap and second
[04:23] <morphix> does the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel included in edgy eft have a fix for the JMicron ide/sata problems???
[04:23] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, /media/sdc1 is the ntfs partition, swap is sdc2, root is sdc3
[04:23] <facts> hi dawm
[04:23] <Amaranth> CorpseFeeder: Applications->Accessories->Terminal, the command is 'alacarte'
[04:23] <dawm> hey facts
[04:23] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, ok well then grub should say (hd2,2)
[04:23] <TIM90> could some one help with the sources list
[04:23] <JoseStefan> godmachine81, sometimes those issues are random and time based
[04:23] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, because it counts up as zero that would be the third partition on the third hard drive
[04:23] <CorpseFeeder> ok
[04:24] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, okay hold please
[04:24] <godmachine81> JoseStefan:: i cant even do apt-cache search pkgname
[04:24] <godmachine81> i get segmentation faults
[04:24] <Nem|ltop> installing now
[04:24] <godmachine81> just started doing this all the sudden
[04:24] <CorpseFeeder> i got six things come up ending with "failed"
[04:24] <godmachine81> i rebooted
[04:24] <godmachine81> and its still doing
[04:24] <godmachine81> im going to download the apt package i guess
[04:24] <JoseStefan> godmachine81, does sudo apt-get update, finish succesfully ?
[04:24] <godmachine81> and reinstall it
[04:24] <godmachine81> JoseStefan:: no
[04:25] <godmachine81> nothing apt nor aptitude works
[04:25] <TIM90> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted, OK so i do have breez installed
[04:25] <b^j> i am trying to install and the boot is getting stuck after the ubuntu logo comes up, it there a way to disable this and see what it is getting stuck on?
[04:25] <godmachine81> Fetched 4B in 1s (3B/s)
[04:25] <godmachine81> Segmentation faultsts... 0%
[04:25] <Roger_The_Bum> anid: you still have dialup!
[04:25] <Roger_The_Bum> wait
[04:25] <Roger_The_Bum> wrong chan
[04:25] <jordan> godmachine81: What about dpkg ?
[04:25] <JoseStefan> godmachine81, did you check your sources.list?
[04:25] <TSWoodV> Amaranth: Thanks for the sound pointers.  I'll give them a shot.
[04:25] <godmachine81> $ apt-cache search xchat
[04:25] <godmachine81> Segmentation fault
[04:25] <v3l0ct> TIM90, are you wanting to install edgy or dapper
[04:26] <b^j> also the logo is n black and white and goofy looking
[04:26] <godmachine81> JoseStefan:: yes i have checked my sources.list
[04:26] <Nem|ltop> god i hate mirc
[04:26] <Amaranth> godmachine81: oh dear
[04:26] <easytiger> upgrade is slooooooooooooooooooooow
[04:26] <Amaranth> easytiger: servers are loaded
[04:26] <CorpseFeeder> amaranth: I see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28566/
[04:26] <godmachine81> Amaranth:: what is this crap?
[04:26] <CorpseFeeder> is that bad?
[04:26] <CorpseFeeder> or normal?
[04:26] <easytiger> yea. slashdotdiddredited amaranth
[04:26] <Amaranth> CorpseFeeder: Oh, dapper.
[04:26] <Amaranth> CorpseFeeder: I have no idea what could be wrong but those errors aren't it.
[04:26] <goose> sproingie: that didn't help :|  i don't have a .fonts.conf
[04:26] <TIM90> no just update,security wise nothing more v3loct
[04:26] <goose> i had a .fonts directory which i just deleted
[04:26] <skepp> b^j: same problem here..
[04:27] <LeoStewart> Does anyone have a quick way to restore the original Firefox icon on Edgy?
[04:27] <Amaranth> godmachine81: i've never seen apt segfault
[04:27] <sproingie> goose: try creating the one at the bottom of the bug report
[04:27] <b^j> skepp, what type of system are you running?
[04:27] <Amaranth> LeoStewart: It's already there
[04:27] <jordan> godmachine81: Does dpkg work for you?
[04:27] <TIM90> ## distribution.
[04:27] <TIM90> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[04:27] <sproingie> goose: you also have to restart X of course
[04:27] <LeoStewart> Amaranth: I mean, in the actual window.
[04:27] <morphix> b^j: edit the grub kernel parameters and remove quiet splash
[04:27] <skepp> b^j: normal one..amd athlon, nvidia geforce4 card..
[04:27] <Roger_The_Bum> sproingie: ctrl+alt+backspace restarts x
[04:28] <godmachine81> Amaranth:: me either..
[04:28] <TIM90> REinstall OS ?
[04:28] <LeoStewart> Amaranth: I still have the blue globe in the top right hand corner.
[04:28] <sproingie> Roger_The_Bum: i know that already :)
[04:28] <godmachine81> jordan:: yea dpkg seems to work
[04:28] <b^j> skepp, pretty similar for me, amd64?
[04:28] <Roger_The_Bum> (s/sproinge/goose/) correction: sproingie: ctrl+alt+backspace restarts x
[04:28] <goose> sproingie: isn't there an fc-cache command ?
[04:28] <[WC] Guard> how do we completely uninstall XFCE beta 2 ? I had this when I installed edgy beta release
[04:28] <goose> fc-cache -fv ?
[04:28] <Carbonflux> hi, I just switched from FC to Ubuntu, everything is working good so far, one problem I do have tho is setting up how many speakers I have, sound is only comming out of the front speakers heh...can anyone offer any suggestions ?
[04:28] <skepp> b^j: no amd64..will test now without "quit splash"
[04:28] <sproingie> goose: beats me, i've always had to restart x to make it work
[04:28] <Amaranth> LeoStewart: Oh, right, it was only changed in the menus
[04:28] <godmachine81> Amaranth:: its not just segfaulting once
[04:28] <Amaranth> LeoStewart: It's just an icon. :P
[04:28] <godmachine81> its everytime i try to do something
[04:28] <goose> sproingie: ok i'll test it out and get back to  you
[04:28] <goose> brb
[04:29] <LeoStewart> Amaranth: so much more than an icon... ;)
[04:29] <m0dY> 6.10 is stable now or still edgy ?
[04:29] <Amaranth> m0dY: the codename was edgy, the final release is 6.10
[04:29] <wastrel> 6.10 is edgy - there's no "stable"  edgy is released, and stable
[04:29] <wastrel> nominally
[04:29] <Adam_G> Hi everyone. Is there a way to keep hard disks from showing up on the desktop background by default? I've got like 4 partitions and they all get their own icon... sort of annoying :P
[04:29] <Amaranth> m0dY: and it's out now, yes
[04:29] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, the suspense is killing me
[04:29] <CorpseFeeder> amaranth: ok I just noticed when I closed alacarte, I get in terminal "OSError: [Errno 13]  Permission denied: '/home/mouser/.local/share'" Is that normal?
[04:29] <sproingie> m0dY: edgy is the name of the release.  ubuntu still doesn't have an "always unstable" branch
[04:29] <v1per> omg oo is still dling after over an hour...
[04:29] <Amaranth> CorpseFeeder: Oh!
[04:29] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, unless you gave me bad information, I can't imagine it not working
[04:29] <TIM90> The following problems were found on your system:E: Type http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu is not known on line 51 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:29] <TIM90> E: Unable to lock the list directory.
[04:29] <godmachine81> Amaranth:: these ppl are all asking if this if that.. i have a real issue here.. who do i go to for help with this
[04:29] <[WC] Guard> how do we completely uninstall XFCE beta 2 ? I had this when I installed edgy beta release
[04:30] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, it's like a good movie
[04:30] <godmachine81> i can not use anything that uses apt
[04:30] <sproingie> m0dY: grumpy groundhog will be that branch, but i don't think it's used
[04:30] <m0dY> so edge is not related some to edge
[04:30] <Nem|ltop> its like a movie that makes me want to hurt myself and others lol
[04:30] <TIM90> do i delete line 51
[04:30] <Archaios> Anyone know a fix for .wmv's playing, but you only get audio?  No video?
[04:30] <Amaranth> CorpseFeeder: what is your username
[04:30] <godmachine81> i tried dpkg-reconfigure apt
[04:30] <godmachine81> no luck
[04:30] <m0dY> so edge is like dapper ?
[04:30] <CorpseFeeder> on this machine it is mouser
[04:30] <m0dY> *edgy
[04:30] <Amaranth> godmachine81: As I've never seen your probably I wouldn't know where to start. Does apt-get update work?
[04:30] <Amaranth> godmachine81: problem*
[04:31] <wastrel> edgy and dapper are both code names for releases, yes
[04:31] <Hikaru79> Archaios, do you have win32codecs installed?
[04:31] <wastrel> edgy is the new dapper :] 
[04:31] <TIM90> please help
[04:31] <m0dY> okay,, good
[04:31] <Amaranth> CorpseFeeder: sudo chown -R mouser:mouser /home/mouser/.local
[04:31] <m0dY> thx
[04:31] <Nem|ltop> 94%
[04:31] <SeanTater> !helpme | Tim90
[04:31] <ubotu> Tim90: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:31] <jordan> godmachine81: You might try http://qunu.com
[04:31] <LeoStewart> How can I get rid of that stupid hover-over enlargement of the forward and back buttons in Firefox 2?
[04:31] <TIM90> This hissing noise is doing my head in
[04:31] <Archaios> Yes i have w32codecs installed, all the gstreamer ones too.
[04:31] <Amaranth> !sound | TIM90
[04:31] <ubotu> TIM90: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:32] <v1per> why are there barely any results for 'aps mplayer' ?
[04:32] <JoseStefan> LeoStewart, i dont get any of that
[04:32] <v1per> (ap. search)
[04:32] <bdragonmsl> does anyone happen to know how to install nvidia drivers on 6.10?
[04:32] <godmachine81> Amaranth:: apt-get update segfaults.. apt-get dist-upgrade.. segfaults..   aptitude update.. segfault.. they all segfault
[04:32] <sproingie> LeoStewart: that must be a plugin, it certainly doesn't happen for me
[04:32] <wastrel> !mplayer | v1per
[04:32] <ubotu> v1per: mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[04:32] <Nem|ltop> INSTALLATION COMPLETE
[04:32] <ubotu> v1per: For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[04:32] <JoseStefan> !nvidia | bdragonmsl
[04:32] <ubotu> bdragonmsl: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:32] <godmachine81> im downloading apt now
[04:32] <LeoStewart> JoseStefan: Humph, I don't know how to explain it.
[04:32] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, should i eject the cd while its rebooting?
[04:32] <godmachine81> and going to try to reinstall it
[04:32] <Amaranth> godmachine81: edgy or dapper?
[04:32] <SeanTater> TIM90: don;t delete it, just place a # before the line, that makes it a comment so it is ignored
[04:32] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, it will tell you to
[04:32] <TIM90> its not sound its the capicitors,or vedio drivers
[04:32] <canine_kouji> does 6.10 include mono?
[04:32] <SeanTater> Nem|ltop: good!
[04:32] <v1per> wastrel, iirc, there was a gmplayer, and other stuff
[04:33] <Amaranth> godmachine81: That's what I was just about to recommend, installing from the .deb using dpkg
[04:33] <Seb> hi guys
[04:33] <Nem|ltop> i can't read
[04:33] <Nem|ltop> lol
[04:33] <LeoStewart> JoseStefan: On the toolbar, I have text and icons showing... the forward and back buttons are larger than all the rest
[04:33] <bruenig> if not then yeah so it doesn't reboot back into the live cd
[04:33] <TIM90> thank you sean
[04:33] <Seb> what do I put in my sources.list as a distro name to get the latest stable ubuntu ?
[04:33] <SeanTater> TIM90: yw
[04:33] <JoseStefan> LeoStewart, mine look normal :/
[04:33] <jordan> canine_kouji: yes.
[04:33] <wastrel> v1per:  meh i don't know :]   never liked gmplayer, i prefer the command line :] 
[04:33] <Nem|ltop> bum bum bummmm
[04:33] <canine_kouji> jordan: :(
[04:33] <Nem|ltop> i have to pee so bad too
[04:33] <godmachine81> Amaranth:: i did it.. still same thing!
[04:33] <canine_kouji> jordan: so we'll be having apps which aren't portable to nin-linux platforms.. great
[04:33] <Amaranth> godmachine81: hrm
[04:33] <sproingie> Nem|ltop: thanks for sharing that
[04:33] <LeoStewart> JoseStefan: do you, by chance, have icons and text showing?
[04:33] <Nem|ltop> np
[04:33] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, 1st door on the right
[04:33] <Amaranth> godmachine81: run it under gdb? :)
[04:33] <Nem|ltop> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[04:33] <wastrel> !upgrade | Seb
[04:33] <ubotu> Seb: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[04:34] <Nem|ltop> MOTHER OF GOD
[04:34] <goose> sproingie: yea it's better =)
[04:34] <SeanTater> !ohmy | Nem|ltop
[04:34] <Nem|ltop> it went to the windows booting screen
[04:34] <ubotu> Nem|ltop: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:34] <JoseStefan> LeoStewart, icons only
[04:34] <bruenig> lol !ohmy
[04:34] <canine_kouji> I wish there was a way to download a Desktop version of ubuntu without mono
[04:34] <sproingie> goose: ok, so it actually needs a new font conf file, not just removing it
[04:34] <Amaranth> canine_kouji: Why?
[04:34] <sproingie> canine_kouji: kubuntu
[04:34] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, no grub
[04:34] <canine_kouji> Amaranth: mono only works well on linux
[04:34] <godmachine81> Amaranth:: how?
[04:34] <Seb> k, so 'edgy'
[04:34] <Seb> ubotu: thx
[04:34] <canine_kouji> sproingie: hmm. oh.. yay! :) I forgot about kubuntu
[04:34] <sproingie> canine_kouji: mono is part of gnome.  kubuntu and xubunto don't have any mono apps
[04:34] <jordan> canine_kouji: Why not just remove mono?
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <goose> sproingie: it's not as nice as it used to be though
[04:34] <Amaranth> canine_kouji: That's a lie. It works on Windows, OS X, FreeBSD, etc
[04:34] <LeoStewart> JoseStefan: That would be the difference.  With icons and text, the forward and back buttons are larger.
[04:34] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, it clearly didn't overwrite the windows MBR
[04:34] <sproingie> *xubuntu
[04:35] <goose> but it isn't unbearably blurry
[04:35] <canine_kouji> Amaranth: explain etc
[04:35] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, hmmm
[04:35] <Amaranth> canine_kouji: mono runs everywhere
[04:35] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. my menu editor seems to be working again now.
[04:35] <canine_kouji> Amaranth: mono works okay on freebsd, bit unstable here and there
[04:35] <sproingie> goose: yeah i think it's one of the antialiasing modes are broken.  it's why it's a workaround, not a fix
[04:35] <SeanTater> canine_kouji: if you /really/ hate mono, apt-get --purge remove mono
[04:35] <canine_kouji> doesn't work at all on netbsd, or netbsd
[04:35] <sproingie> goose: still, at least it's readable now
[04:35] <goose> yea
[04:35] <Amaranth> canine_kouji: and what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[04:35] <bruenig> that has nothing to do with that setting I told you to change, whether it overwrites or not
[04:35] <CorpseFeeder> I must have changed my permisions some how.. I don't know how.
[04:35] <Amaranth> godmachine81: I dunno, let my try it
[04:35] <Roger_The_Bum> CorpseFeeder: chmod ?
[04:35] <goose> sproingie: i hope an update gets pushed in a week =)
[04:35] <canine_kouji> Amaranth: nothing, just complaining the gnome team made a really stupid decision
[04:35] <JoseStefan> LeoStewart, different width, same height
[04:35] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, i just need it to ask me what OS at startup
[04:35] <v1per> wastrel, i only need it for the mplayer firefox plugin, so..
[04:36] <Nem|ltop> it just goes straight into xp
[04:36] <InnerF|RE> is there some kind of notification that lets me know when someone logs into my box?
[04:36] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, I don't see why grub won't install
[04:36] <sproingie> canine_kouji: we're really vastly uninterested in politics here
[04:36] <LeoStewart> JoseStefan: for me, the forward and back buttons are a different height than the rest.
[04:36] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, me either
[04:36] <CorpseFeeder> I don't remember using chmod on my home directory before... I have no clue how I broke it.
[04:36] <godmachine81> sheesh
[04:36] <Nem|ltop> i dont even know if ubuntu is installed what do i do
[04:36] <Amaranth> canine_kouji: Why would you say that? I think we made the best decision we could to please everyone. Nothing depends on tomboy so a distribution could easily just leave it out. Ubuntu chose not to.
[04:36] <sproingie> canine_kouji: just get rid of tomboy and soundjuicer, i think those are the only two mono apps that come with gnome
[04:36] <wastrel> v1per:  edgy has a totem plugin for firefox... i'm still trying it out, haven't bothered to figure out alternatives.
[04:36] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, try the automated install ?
[04:36] <spuddogg> Man, oh man...the repos are jammed right now
[04:36] <elkbuntu> Nem|ltop, did you install windows after you installed ubuntu?
[04:37] <Kim^J> Anyone using Webmin ? I can't browse the internet anymore from this pc... IRC is fine thought...
[04:37] <canine_kouji> Amaranth: mono libs are fairly incomplete.. grepping "Not Implemented" will suffice as evidence
[04:37] <Nem|ltop> JoseStefan, for the last time the only option the automated install gave me was to format the entire drive
[04:37] <Nem|ltop> elkbuntu, windows was on first
[04:37] <meheren> how do i add a dir to my $PATH?
[04:37] <Amaranth> canine_kouji: that's mostly windows stuff
[04:37] <v1per> wastrel, totem sucks. dont mention that ugly word to me again please, no offense =P
[04:37] <canine_kouji> sproingie: I guess that would work
[04:37] <Amaranth> canine_kouji: anyway, this discussion is offtopic here
[04:37] <Roger_The_Bum> Nem|ltop: are you sure, no gparted, or anything?
[04:37] <wastrel> meheren:  export PATH='$PATH:/dir/to/add/to/path'
[04:37] <canine_kouji> Amaranth: windows stuff? you mean SQL* and the DbCommand* libs are "windows stuff"
[04:37] <Nem|ltop> Roger_The_Bum gparted is manual partition setup isnt it
[04:38] <Roger_The_Bum> Nem|ltop: yeah
[04:38] <meheren> wastrel, thx :)
[04:38] <sharky> can someone dicipher this kernel log message:
[04:38] <sharky> Oct 26 22:36:03 ives kernel: [17185634.272000]  hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[04:38] <sharky> Oct 26 22:36:03 ives kernel: [17185634.272000]  hdc: command error: error=0x54 { AbortedCommand LastFailedSense=0x05 }
[04:38] <Amaranth> canine_kouji: Whatever, it's still offtopic here.
[04:38] <Nem|ltop> Roger_The_Bum, thats what i used but the freakin thing doesn't seem to be installing grub correctly
[04:38] <skepp> b^j: tried to boot/install without "quiet splash" and it seems the install hangs at some ACPI stuff..the last log-entry is "ACPI: Thermal Zone blabla"
[04:38] <elkbuntu> !paste | sharky
[04:38] <ubotu> sharky: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:38] <joeljkp> does the applications>add/remove app see stuff in universe?
[04:38] <TIM90> working great now
[04:38] <wastrel> meheren:  actually kill the quotes, you don't need them and they may suppress variable expansion
[04:38] <godmachine81> $ sudo synaptic
[04:38] <godmachine81> Segmentation fault
[04:38] <TIM90> just the hissing noise
[04:38] <canine_kouji> sharky: you on a laptop ?
[04:38] <Roger_The_Bum> joeljkp: probably, but you should use synaptic instead
[04:38] <godmachine81> hell everything is segfaulting
[04:38] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, any ideas?
[04:38] <Madpilot> canine_kouji,  politics of Mono are off-topic for #ubuntu, really. Try #ubuntu-offtopic, or a Mono channel to continue that discussion, please
[04:38] <godmachine81> wtf
[04:39] <bdragonmsl> Is there a guide that's more updated for installing nvidia??
[04:39] <Archaios> Does anyone know of a fix for .wmv's only playing audio?  No video.  I have the w32codecs installed already.
[04:39] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, baffles me, unless the mbr is on one of your RAID drives
[04:39] <sharky> canine_kouji, no but it seems others with this problem have been on laptops
[04:39] <InnerF|RE> is there some kind of notification that lets me know when someone logs into my box?
[04:39] <wastrel> s/may//
[04:39] <Terminus> elkbuntu: i thought max of 3 lines pasting was ok?
[04:39] <user-land> archaios, try with vlc
[04:39] <meheren> wastrel, ok
[04:39] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, shouldn't be, you had me install to hd2
[04:39] <canine_kouji> sharky: well the solution is to allocate less for the last partition
[04:39] <Specialbuddy> is there something I have to do differently to get all of the repositories
[04:39] <CorpseFeeder> I'm going to try and upgrade to 6.10 now. I will probably be back later after I have broken everything again :)
[04:39] <canine_kouji> sharky: there is some very wicked problem with the automated allocation
[04:39] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, right I had you install grub to hd2, but if your MBR is not on hd2....
[04:39] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, but why was it showing my drives as sdc instead of hd2
[04:39] <Amaranth> godmachine81: Alright, I figured it out. It's like this: run gdb, type 'file apt-cache', type 'set args search foo', type 'run'
[04:39] <elkbuntu> Terminus, it's quite a bit busy in here today.. we're going to lose what he says if it doesnt get pasted
[04:40] <goose> sproingie: gaim2.0 also feels really really sluggish
[04:40] <v1per> easyubuntu works w/ edgy, i assume
[04:40] <user-land> archaios, can you show us this wmv ?
[04:40] <elkbuntu> Terminus, it's already off my screen
[04:40] <Terminus> elkbuntu: okidokie.
[04:40] <luisito> hellos!!
[04:40] <InnerF|RE> is there some kind of notification that lets me know when someone logs into my box?
[04:40] <b^j> skepp, i get through that and get to some ata stuff
[04:40] <Amaranth> godmachine81: when it segfaults type 'thread apply all bt'
[04:40] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, different naming conventions for different software
[04:40] <godmachine81> hang on
[04:40] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, how do i determine which sd# drive corresponds with which hd# drive
[04:40] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, scsi and sata drives will start with sd
[04:40] <canine_kouji> sharky: the bug has been in ubuntu for quite a while
[04:40] <b^j> skepp, try something silly like noacpi
[04:40] <canine_kouji> sharky: like.. 1.5 years afaik.
[04:40] <sharky> canine_kouji, i'm not sure i understand allocate less for what partition?
[04:40] <InnerF|RE> is there some kind of notification that lets me know when someone logs into my box?
[04:40] <skepp> b^j: already tried that..same problem..
[04:40] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, well sda = hd0, sdb = hd1, sdc = hd2 ...
[04:40] <luisito> now tell me: can I install 6.10 with Boot
[04:41] <sproingie> goose: can't help there, i don't use gaim
[04:41] <TIM90> !snackbot
[04:41] <canine_kouji> sharky: also the grub installer has had a bug for 2.5 years. The grub installer which ubuntu uses doesn't detect wether the first mbr sector is okay or corrupt
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snackbot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, so what did i do wrong, i installed grub to (hd2,2)
[04:41] <b^j> skepp, no clue then, mine is still stuck to
[04:41] <goose> sproingie: ah =)
[04:41] <godmachine81> Amaranth:: i did all that
[04:41] <b^j> skepp, pulling down alt install cd to see what i can do with that
[04:41] <luisito> can I install 6.10 with BootCamp in my macbook without problems yes or not?
[04:41] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, i really want to use the darn automatic install thing but the only option it gives me is to format my entire drive
[04:41] <Roger_The_Bum> from a fresh edgy installation, what sort of remote connection options are available
[04:41] <sharky> canine_kouji,  these errors are not on any of my hard disks rather on my dvd rom drive
[04:41] <godmachine81> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[04:41] <godmachine81> 0xb7c47c53 in strlen () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
[04:41] <canine_kouji> sharky: don't use all of the hard drive for ubuntu
[04:41] <canine_kouji> sharky: oh
[04:41] <Amaranth> godmachine81: please pastebin the full otput
[04:41] <canine_kouji> sharky: well beat me :P
[04:41] <godmachine81> the last thing didnt do anything
[04:41] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, isnt that the cdrom drive?
[04:41] <godmachine81> the thread part
[04:42] <canine_kouji> I get those errors when I assign too much spacethan what I have on the drive
[04:42] <wastrel> Roger_The_Bum:  none, as far as i know  you need to install openssh-server to enable ssh connections.
[04:42] <Amaranth> godmachine81: oh, try running just 'bt' then
[04:42] <canine_kouji> sharky: you might want to try redoing the disv you have
[04:42] <Roger_The_Bum> ooh
[04:42] <Roger_The_Bum> hat's not good
[04:42] <lakin> is there an easy program I can run which will find the fastest ubuntu mirror for me?  I'm getting really slow download speeds from my current mirris
[04:42] <canine_kouji> sharky: the cd might just be messed up, or scratched
[04:42] <luisito> asking again.... can I install 6.10 with BootCamp in my macbook without problems yes or not?
[04:42] <TIM90> i would like to edit the sources list again ,how do i go about it
[04:42] <skepp> b^j: yeah..me too..40% downloaded so far..too bad I have to buy cd-roms, as I burned the live-cd on my last one..grr..
[04:42] <rcmiv> exit
[04:42] <djmccormick> anyone know why lighttpd won't restart in the default package?
[04:42] <cyphase> lakin: i rmember seeing something like that in the repos
[04:42] <cyphase> remember*
[04:42] <lakin> netselect?
[04:43] <sharky> canine_kouji, ok so i have tried three different dvd's (movies not data) and all get this error, then i tried the ubuntu live cd and that worked fine
[04:43] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, the only 2 options its listing to prepare disk space are "erase entire disc SDC or manually edit partition table"
[04:43] <godmachine81> Amaranth:: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28569/
[04:43] <luisito> ......................................................................................
[04:43] <Seb> is there a tool i can use to find the fastest mirror around where I live ?
[04:43] <Amaranth> luisito: Don't do that.
[04:43] <meheren> ok... i accidently mistyped my path to add to $path how do i either delete $path or delete the lin in $path
[04:43] <sharky> canine_kouji, coincidentally i did a fresh install of ubuntu last sunday and i just installed this new dvd-rw drive today
[04:43] <godmachine81> i know what might have caused it
[04:43] <meheren> *line
[04:43] <godmachine81> i installed valknut
[04:44] <godmachine81> and it installed libstdc++
[04:44] <Amaranth> godmachine81: your index is corrupt
[04:44] <godmachine81> i see that in there
[04:44] <Seb> meheren: logout, log back in
[04:44] <luisito> can Edgy be installed in a Macbook with bootcamp??
[04:44] <DanaG> ** (gsynaptics-init:9594): WARNING **: Using synclient
[04:44] <DanaG> Unknown parameter CoastingSpeedThreashold
[04:44] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, perhaps i didn't make / bootable
[04:44] <Amaranth> godmachine81: we just need to clear out your package index, let me find where those are stored
[04:44] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, was i supposed to flag /
[04:44] <meheren> Seb, ok thx
[04:44] <InnerF|RE> is there a notification that will alert me when someone connects via ssh or any other client?
[04:45] <DanaG> so my touchpad settings don't work.
[04:45] <canine_kouji> my gods this channel is so busy :P
[04:45] <nullmind> I have upgraded to Etch and the boot fails at Waiting for root file system and drops into a busybox. Can anyone tell me where to get an older kernel vmlinuz ?
[04:45] <Hobbsee> canine_kouji: it's still under 1000 people
[04:45] <Amaranth> godmachine81: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[04:45] <glick> InnerF|RE, i dont think so but you can easily write womething to do it for you
[04:45] <TIM90> command to edit the sources list /
[04:45] <canine_kouji> oh, gee :)
[04:45] <godmachine81> /var/cache/apt$ ls
[04:45] <godmachine81> archives  pkgcache.bin  srcpkgcache.bin
[04:45] <canine_kouji> heh
[04:45] <eigenlambda> so i installed network manager and removed everything but lo0 from /etc/network/interfaces
[04:45] <TIM90> ?
[04:45] <InnerF|RE> yeah, because i know how
[04:45] <Nem|ltop> or anyone?
[04:45] <flake> what's a good html freeware editor
[04:45] <glick> InnerF|RE, excellent opportunity to learn
[04:45] <Nem|ltop> how do i make sure the right partition is bootable
[04:45] <nullmind> flake: Anjuta
[04:45] <Madpilot> canine_kouji, actually, I was expecting it to be busier w/ Edgy just out; this isn't much busier than a busy normal time
[04:45] <InnerF|RE> where would i start
[04:45] <InnerF|RE> ?
[04:45] <DanaG> oh, and 640x400 usplash has no progress bar or text box.
[04:45] <progek> can someone help, I just installed apache and recently when I visit my site i get a forbidden error. I don't have access to the server?
[04:45] <InnerF|RE> you have something for me to read?
[04:45] <flake> thx
[04:46] <glick> InnerF|RE, google, python.org
[04:46] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, when you designate something to mount at /, I believe it makes it bootable by default. I never flagged something to be bootable when I installed today
[04:46] <Madpilot> flake, Bluefish or Screem; Nvu if you must have wysiwyg
[04:46] <eigenlambda> so now network manager can't see my wireless card because nothing modprobes it
[04:46] <Amaranth> canine_kouji: we had over 1100 people earlier, couldn't fit a minute of discussion on my maximized xchat with 1440x900 resolution
[04:46] <mattSta> how can i load songs onto my ipod using ubuntu
[04:46] <glick> InnerF|RE, maybe look up basic unix
[04:46] <wastrel> ubunto
[04:46] <progek> mattsta, get gtkpod
[04:46] <nullmind> eigenlambda: what type of card?
[04:46] <spuddogg> Anyone else noticing how jammed the repos are?
[04:46] <Amaranth> godmachine81: did that work?
[04:46] <DanaG> 'make bootable' only matters for Windows.
[04:46] <eigenlambda> ndiswrappered bcm4318
[04:46] <bruenig> spuddogg, what do you expect?
[04:46] <godmachine81> no
[04:46] <nullmind> eigenlambda: are you using ndiswrapper?
[04:46] <godmachine81> same thing Amaranth
[04:46] <eigenlambda> ya
[04:46] <glick> InnerF|RE, maybe look into bash shell scripting
[04:46] <progek> it's in the repos
[04:46] <luisito> I'll be when somebody listen to me 4 TIMES A QUESTION AND NOBODY ASKED NOTHING!. bye!
[04:46] <nullmind> eigenlambda: Have u tried using the bcm43xx?
[04:46] <mattSta> i gtkpod, but it doesn't seem to load songs o
[04:46] <spuddogg> bruenig, i know...i was just saying.  there was no complaining going on :)
[04:46] <Amaranth> godmachine81: even after you cleaned out /var/lib/apt/lists? hrm
[04:46] <eigenlambda> yea, once, awhile ago...
[04:47] <godmachine81> $ ls
[04:47] <godmachine81> archives  pkgcache.bin  srcpkgcache.bin
[04:47] <godmachine81> what about those?
[04:47] <joincamp> does anyone use beryl and multiple users on a computer?
[04:47] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, what should i be doing then?
[04:47] <bruenig> I tried to install jre and it took half an hour
[04:47] <rixth> Too bad Edgy was released with a crippling bug- boot takes 5 minutes if you have a specific raid array, cause it fsck's EVERY F'ING BOOT.
[04:47] <flake> thanks, having to sift thru freeware/shareware is tedious
[04:47] <nullmind> eigenlambda: does the device come up inside the Networking applet in ubuntu?
[04:47] <eigenlambda> does bcm43xx work on airforce1 cards now?
[04:47] <rixth> They've lost me as a user.
[04:47] <progek> does gtkpod read from your ipod?
[04:47] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, I have no idea. Conceptually what I am saying should work
[04:47] <nullmind> it works for mine, a bcm 4318
[04:47] <Amaranth> godmachine81: try removing the .bin files, we can't make it any worse
[04:47] <cniowenm> qu'est ce qu'un web20.0
[04:47] <Zoohouse> wow the repos are sooo slow...
[04:47] <nullmind> but the bcm43xx is still quite buggy
[04:47] <DanaG> oh, #ubuntu+1 is now #ubuntu?
[04:47] <Amaranth> rixth: tune2fs
[04:47] <Madpilot> rixth, filed that bug yet?
[04:47] <DanaG> Oh, makes sense with a release.
[04:47] <JoseStefan> rixth, you can tell fsck to skip certain mounts using the fstab
[04:47] <eigenlambda> you mean the network-admin control panel?
[04:48] <eigenlambda> yes, it shows up there
[04:48] <rixth> Madpilot, yep, in mdadm.
[04:48] <bruenig> change your sources to some third world mirror that they have for the 4 users in uzbekistan or wherever
[04:48] <eigenlambda> (after i manually modprobed ndiswrapper)
[04:48] <godmachine81> Amaranth:: then its going to lose the database of what i have installed isnt it?
[04:48] <nullmind> eigenlambda: ok, go into that properties of the eth1 (im assuming ur wireless) and uncheck enable
[04:48] <rixth> JoseStefan, it ignores that.
[04:48] <DigitalNinja> I don't like people who write bad documentation
[04:48] <godmachine81> i have had this install for about a year
[04:48] <DigitalNinja> I need to set "pci=nommconf" in grub
[04:48] <cniowenm> web 2.0?
[04:48] <godmachine81> i dont wanna fuxorit up by removing them
[04:48] <TIM90> how do i get some nice themes for ubuntu
[04:48] <godmachine81> ill just make backups of them
[04:48] <godmachine81> and see what happens
[04:48] <spdf> TIM90, art.gnome.org
[04:48] <reiki> you guys are scarin me. Maybe I'll wait till NEXT weekend to upgrade to Edgy :)
[04:48] <eigenlambda> already not checked
[04:48] <bruenig> TIM90, gnome-look.com art.gnome.org
[04:48] <eigenlambda> it says its not configured even
[04:49] <nullmind> eigenlambda: also might be worth mentioning that you should restart the networking daemon when u manually modprope the ndiswrapper
[04:49] <wastrel> reiki:  not a bad idea ;] 
[04:49] <Madpilot> reiki, I plan to ;)
[04:49] <Amaranth> godmachine81: i don't believe so
[04:49] <DigitalNinja> None of the webste that talke about "pci=nommconf" tell you where this goes in grub. They just say put it in the boot option
[04:49] <DigitalNinja> Where does "pci=nommconf" go in grub?
[04:49] <Websterium> Edgy is the shiz
[04:49] <bruenig> TIM90, gnome-look.org not .com
[04:49] <TIM90> cheers
[04:49] <Amaranth> godmachine81: you can run 'sudo dpkg --get-selections > /home/<user>/packages.bak' to be safe though
[04:49] <nullmind> eigenlambda: go ahead and try $./etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:49] <nullmind> eigenlambda: and then do alt+f2 and type nm-applet to restart the networking applet
[04:49] <FunnyLookinHat> !restricted
[04:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:50] <godmachine81> yea Amaranth i already have a backup like that
[04:50] <godmachine81> btw that fixed whatever it was
[04:50] <eigenlambda> ok, now i have two nm-applets
[04:50] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, should i be creating these as "secondary partition"
[04:50] <nullmind> anyone know how to help me with the fact that when I boot it wont find my root filesystem?
[04:50] <Amaranth> godmachine81: awesome!
[04:50] <eigenlambda> neither of which mention my wireless capabilities
[04:50] <godmachine81> lol
[04:50] <godmachine81> i guess
[04:50] <Amaranth> godmachine81: I knew it was the package cache, just didn't know which files :)
[04:50] <godmachine81> if i can only find out what caused it
[04:50] <Amaranth> heh
[04:50] <Amaranth> godmachine81: still have those backups?
[04:50] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, not sure what secondary partition means. Do you mean logical or do you mean physically the second partition on the drive?
[04:50] <godmachine81> Amaranth:: it created new ones
[04:50] <nullmind> eigenlambda: remove both applets (right click remove)
[04:51] <godmachine81> but yea i still have the old ones
[04:51] <eigenlambda> k
[04:51] <Amaranth> godmachine81: file a bug report against apt on launchpad, attach the old .bin files and the output from gdb
[04:51] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, in the manual partition editor, it has an option Create as: and the options are primary partition or secondary partition
[04:51] <nullmind> eigenlambda: rmmod ndiswrapper
[04:51] <eigenlambda> k
[04:51] <DigitalNinja> where does "pci=nommconf" go in grub?
[04:51] <eigenlambda> no errors
[04:51] <nullmind> eigenlambda: modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:51] <nick01> ubuntu ppc dropped support for G3 ?!
[04:51] <Amaranth> godmachine81: hopefully we can make sure no one else has that problem again
[04:51] <nullmind> eigenlambda: ifconfig eth1 up (assuming eth1 is the wireless)
[04:51] <eigenlambda> hm... error...
[04:51] <TIM90> i would like to update to  Ubuntu 6.10
[04:52] <nullmind> eigenlambda: ./etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:52] <Amaranth> nick01: "For Apple Macintosh G3, G4, and G5 computers, including iBooks and PowerBooks as well as IBM OpenPower machines."
[04:52] <godmachine81> yea no kidding Amaranth
[04:52] <nullmind> now start the applet (alt+f2, u know)
[04:52] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, i'm sure you are overlooking something, it cant be that complicated
[04:52] <eigenlambda> lol rite.  needed2sudo
[04:52] <DanaG> nm-applet --sm-disable
[04:52] <nick01> Amaranth: the main pc only mentions G4 and G5
[04:52] <v1per> easyubuntu page is down =/
[04:52] <HeathenDan> anyone know the command line arguments for mozilla thunderbird? specifically, to invoke the TBird composer with the email addess already added when i click on a mailto link (in Opera browser)
[04:52] <nullmind> sm-disable wasn't a big deal on my system
[04:52] <Nem|ltop> JoseStefan, am i trying to create a primary or secondary partition
[04:52] <DanaG> do mozilla-thunderbird --help
[04:52] <Amaranth> nick01: probably a typo, G3 support is practically free when you have G4 support
[04:52] <nullmind> did it come up, if not i have one more thing that might work
[04:53] <eigenlambda> ok
[04:53] <nullmind> work ?
[04:53] <kitche> HeathenDan: make thunderbird default client in Opera
[04:53] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, i dont remember seeing any of that when i installed, and i dual boot
[04:53] <eigenlambda> nope
[04:53] <Nem|ltop> good lord
[04:53] <TIM90> what command to update to Ubuntu 6.10
[04:53] <nullmind> lol, ok, try this
[04:53] <Nem|ltop> did you use the alternate ubuntu installer JoseStefan
[04:53] <nullmind> mind if I use the paste-bin?
[04:53] <baxter_kylie> can someone please tell me what's up with this 'generic' kernel business??? Is it a 686 kernel?
[04:53] <nick01> Amaranth: dunno about that VLOS based on gentoo said it supported only G4 and G5 and it meant it ! it refused to boot on my G3
[04:53] <JoseStefan> livecd
[04:53] <HeathenDan> kitche, yeah but it either doesn't pass the addess to the composer or it just opens the main tbird window
[04:54] <eigenlambda> the weird thing is, it used to sometimes work before i commented out most of the things in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:54] <godmachine81> Amaranth:: wonder what caused that? you think that libstdc++ might have done it?
[04:54] <kitche> baxter_kylie: it should say i686-generic if it is
[04:54] <dabaR> baxter_kylie: no
[04:54] <nullmind> well
[04:54] <eigenlambda> ya go ahead
[04:54] <nullmind> try this
[04:54] <TIM90> do i need a live cd to get Ubuntu 6.10
[04:54] <wastrel> Linux topoisomerase 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:54] <Amaranth> baxter_kylie: No, it's the same as the 386 kernel but with SMP (multiple processor) support
[04:54] <wastrel> generic i686
[04:54] <HeathenDan> DanaG, yeah, but the help doesn't say how to add the email address, just opens a blank composer
[04:54] <dabaR> TIM90: well, what do you have now? 6.06?
[04:54] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, whered you go
[04:54] <Amaranth> baxter_kylie: benchmarks showed that there was little to no improvement using the 686 vs the 386 so they dropped it
[04:54] <TIM90> yeh dadar
[04:55] <nullmind> http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/223803
[04:55] <TIM90> thanks for answering
[04:55] <tate> Hey, I'm trying to backup a DVD(firefly to be exact) since I've already had one copy die on me
[04:55] <arviso> I am a newbie and want to install Ubuntu on a storage disc of my Mac PowerBook. I have 6.06.1 burned on a disc, and I can mount that disc, but I need some kind of manual explaining Linux terminlogy to a Mac user.
[04:55] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, are they primary and secondary? They used to be primary and logical, perhaps secondary is the user-friendly way to say logical. But either way it shouldn't matter ubuntu can boot from either primary or logical. I generally make mine primary. Now if you made it extended that would be a problem because that is not really a partition but rather a container for other logical partitions. I may have rambled here I went away
[04:55] <bruenig>  for a while to work on my box here.
[04:55] <tate> and I'm wondering how I can do this on linux?  I have a burner
[04:55] <dabaR> TIM90: then you can not upgrade to 6.10 with the desktop cd, read the topic to learn how to upgrade, but from CD you need the alternate
[04:55] <nullmind> eigenlambda: before doing that
[04:55] <nullmind> eigenlambda: right clikc the applet and disable networking
[04:55] <nullmind> eigenlambda: then remove the applet
[04:55] <MtJB> anybody have a fix for nvidia driver and / or usbaudio on edgy?
[04:55] <nullmind> eigenlambda: then after doing that inside the pastebin, restart the applet and enable netowrking
[04:55] <Nem|ltop> bruenig, do you know what i should be selecting under create as?
[04:56] <wastrel> !burn | tate
[04:56] <ubotu> tate: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:56] <kitche> MtJB: what's wrong with your nvidia driver?
[04:56] <EpP> Wait... so edgy is official now?
[04:56] <TIM90> is there a command i can run from ubuntu
[04:56] <RedEyess> Hi
[04:56] <wastrel> EpP:  yes
[04:56] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, you can have up to four primary partitions. So I would just go with primary
[04:56] <JoseStefan> Nem|ltop, are you using live cd or alternate?
[04:56] <dabaR> tate: if it is not encrypted, you could use dd in command line, what program do you normally use to burn cds?
[04:56] <EpP> wastrel, for how long?
[04:56] <RedEyess> How do I change the resolution of the GDM login screen?
[04:56] <RedEyess> permanently
[04:56] <wastrel> since early this morning epp
[04:56] <Nem|ltop> well then i can't possibly figure out what is going wrong
[04:56] <MtJB> kitche:  i tried to install using the NVIDIA installer, but it didnt know where to put stuff
[04:56] <TIM90> or o i need the alternate ,long way to my goal
[04:56] <EpP> wastrel, like literally today?
[04:56] <baxter_kylie> Amaranth: What about processor extensions? I thought the i386 processors didn't support SSE3 extensions?
[04:57] <kitche> MtJB: well you need the kernel source to use their installer
[04:57] <RedEyess> How do I change the resolution of the GDM login screen?
[04:57] <Amaranth> baxter_kylie: the kernel didn't use them anyway
[04:57] <wastrel> EpP:  yes, just released today
[04:57] <MtJB> kitche: it built the module
[04:57] <RedEyess> How do I change the resolution of the GDM login screen permanently?
[04:57] <tate> I normally use k3b
[04:57] <EpP> wastrel, Thanks. Im excited :)
[04:57] <daveyj> crap apparently i broke my X
[04:57] <JoseStefan> baxter_kylie, they do on edgy
[04:57] <tate> but this is an encrypted DVD
[04:57] <Amaranth> baxter_kylie: the kernel doesn't do a lot of multimedia or complex math stuff and that's the only time sse3 is useful
[04:57] <EpP> i picked a good day to catch up on my linux distros
[04:57] <tate> it's a copy of firefly
[04:57] <MtJB> kitche:  in fact, it ran the nvidia driver afterwards, but when i rebooted, no go
[04:57] <khatahn> hi, anyone happen to know a way to download only 10MB of the end of some file (without having the rest already)? is there some way to do this with wget?
[04:57] <Nem|ltop> what does flagging do in gparted?
[04:57] <kitche> MtJB: you starting at the gdm right
[04:57] <TIM90> can i run ,sudo apt-get install Ubuntu 6.10
[04:58] <shadok> khatahn: wget -c url
[04:58] <MtJB> kitche yes, if you mean, do i run gdm normally, yes, i do
[04:58] <rixth> shadok, no, tha'ts not it.
[04:58] <LeoStewart> What's the default place to make key bindings in Gnome?  I've forgotten what it's called, and I need to change some binds.
[04:58] <daveyj> "failed to load glx module"
[04:58] <daveyj> :(
[04:58] <rixth> shadok, he doesn't HAVE or WANT the first bits of the file
[04:58] <v1per> !easyubuntu
[04:58] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:58] <khatahn> shadok: that would just download the whole thing, but i only want 10MB from the end
[04:58] <shadok> rixth: arf :/
[04:58] <rixth> khatahn, you could send the HTTP headers manually?
[04:58] <dabaR> What's this business with edgy not having vim but vi on a basic install, and no irssi any more in a vanilla ubuntu install...
[04:58] <nullmind> eigenlambda: any luck?
[04:59] <eigenlambda> ok... executed
[04:59] <eigenlambda> would you like to see the output?
[04:59] <eigenlambda> now nm-applet --sm-disable?
[04:59] <b^j> so i can get my system to boot off an dapper cd but not an edgy, and64 on an asus m2npv-vm, any ideas?
[04:59] <Nem|ltop> anybody know what flagging is for in gparted?
[04:59] <TIM90> !Ubuntu 6.10
[04:59] <wastrel> dabaR:  vi is vim afaik - where'd you read that?
[04:59] <godmachine81> v1per:: msg me if your wanting easyubuntu for edgy..
[04:59] <daveyj> what do i do?!
[04:59] <rixth> Nem|ltop, Windows
[04:59] <dabaR> wastrel: did you try it?
[04:59] <baxter_kylie> So now we can't use any 686 packages?
[04:59] <khatahn> rixth: hmm? i'm not sure i know how to do that
[04:59] <nullmind> eigenlambda: yeah try doing nm-applet inside a run dialog
[04:59] <kitche>  MtJB: make sure that the nvidia driver auto loads each time you boot your computer which is should
[04:59] <nullmind> (alt+f2)
[04:59] <eigenlambda> nullmind: ty
[04:59] <jroes> is there a way to do a net install from a usb drive?
[04:59] <dabaR> wastrel: I in fact have experience with this being so, I never read it anywhere.
[04:59] <nullmind> do the --sm-disable if u have to (i never did)
[04:59] <eigenlambda> ya that worked
[04:59] <wastrel> dabaR:  well i've got vim when i run vi but i didn't do the basic install.
[04:59] <nullmind> cool :)
[04:59] <eigenlambda> totally
[04:59] <nullmind> i helped someone, yay!
[04:59] <TIM90> !Ubuntu6.10
[04:59] <eigenlambda> wow howd u come up with that?
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Ubuntu6.10 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <nullmind> us bcm43xx users gotta stick together
[04:59] <dabaR> wastrel: it even reports it is vim if you just run vi with no file, but the commands are old school vi.
[05:00] <nullmind> lots of crack
[05:00] <FunnyLookinHat> TIM90, try !edgy ?
[05:00] <goose> you know i wonder if all the font problems are from previous manipulations with automatix
[05:00] <MtJB> anybody using usbaudio on edgy?
[05:00] <nullmind> and the inability to use a different wireless card on my notebook
[05:00] <thrice`> !edgy
[05:00] <Nem|ltop> rixth, what do you mean
[05:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[05:00] <TIM90> !edgy
[05:00] <DarqFiber> nullmind you got anything useful for a bcm4309 ?
[05:00] <joeljkp> how do i switch to the new 3-pane evolution layout?
[05:00] <nullmind> first i have a question for u guys
[05:00] <wastrel> dabaR:  it's vim - but it's using a compatible mode to be more standard vi than vimmy.
[05:00] <eigenlambda> iirc bcm4309 is supported fully by the free driver
[05:00] <FunnyLookinHat> And I do stress to try the torrents if possible   : )
[05:00] <jamie>  has anyone gotten evdo working? i actually get a connection (seems to work great) with a remote ip, local ip, and remote dns servers, but can't ping the remote ip or anything beyond it.. probably just a pppd problem...
[05:00] <nullmind> how can i make this channel more readable?
[05:00] <nullmind> i cant hardly read anything! (since im stuck in windows)
[05:00] <eigenlambda>  /ignore eigenlambda
[05:00] <TIM90> !botsnack
[05:00] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:00] <MtJB> nullmind:  remove all the adjectives
[05:00] <eigenlambda> lol
[05:01] <nullmind> lol
[05:01] <wastrel> dabaR:  sudo update-alternatives --config vi
[05:01] <Nem|ltop> rixth, should i be boot flagging my root?
[05:01] <thrice`> !flash
[05:01] <nullmind> i mean, i want it to highlight names or something
[05:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:01] <RobNyc> how do i reinstall grub .. i installed windows last and it took over mbr
[05:01] <eigenlambda> hm
[05:01] <rixth> Nem|ltop, no
[05:01] <kitche> nullmind: you can disable parts/joins if you want
[05:01] <RobNyc> !grub
[05:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:01] <eigenlambda> is there an xchat for windows?
[05:01] <DarqFiber> eigenlamba - its not working for mw
[05:01] <ltR^> is there a way to restart the state of the placement of the menubar/clock etc
[05:01] <nullmind> RobNyc: there is a wiki entry on that
[05:01] <Nem|ltop> rixth, can you help me get this darned dual boot working
[05:01] <Hikaru79> eigenlambda, yes, look at http://silverex.org
[05:01] <joeljkp> how do i switch to the new 3-pane evolution layout?
[05:01] <nullmind> RobNyc: search the wiki for it
[05:01] <rixth> !dualboot
[05:01] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:01] <wastrel> nullmind:  you can drag them around pretty easily & put them where you want them
[05:01] <RobNyc> nullmind: im checkin that out right now thanks
[05:01] <Nem|ltop> i have been shown that link 5 times and it is not helping me
[05:02] <b^j> let me put this another way, has anyone successfully booted an amd64 edgy cd
[05:02] <rixth> Nem|ltop, this is how I did it: installed Windows, then Ubuntu. It was pre configured for me.
[05:02] <JoseStefan> b^j, yes
[05:03] <nullmind> eigenlambda: if ndiswrapper gives you some trouble i have my bcm4318 working with the bcm43xx driver
[05:03] <nullmind> eigenlambda: feel free to drop me a message at nullmind@gmail.com
[05:03] <wastrel> dabaR:  and install vim-full
[05:03] <TIM90> when i have Edgy Eft,will ibe able to down grade to 6.06 if i dont like it
[05:03] <nullmind> (that goes for any other bcm users)
[05:03] <DarqFiber> nullmind - bless you ;)
[05:03] <b^j> JoseStefan, x2? chipset? did you have to do anything special?
[05:03] <nullmind> TiG4: doubtful
[05:03] <eigenlambda> nullmind: last time i tried bcm43xx, it froze up my computer unacceptably at times
[05:03] <kitche> nullmind: it's not hard the real hard part really is the firmware part :)
[05:03] <nullmind> it does that...
[05:03] <shagzscott> is everyone on here on the same channel or is there others
[05:04] <kmeyer> is there a package with development files for ruby?
[05:04] <nullmind> bcm43xx-fwcutter works pretty easily
[05:04] <kitche> shagzscott: same channel
[05:04] <DarqFiber> nullmind - can we all go to bcm-users ?
[05:04] <lakin> nullmind: it does, but I can't get it to work w/ my card.
[05:04] <JoseStefan> b^2, socket 754, nforce3 250gb, newcastle core, nothing special needed to be done
[05:04] <nullmind> sure
[05:04] <wastrel> kmeyer:  apt-cache search ruby | grep dev
[05:04] <daveyj> :(
[05:04] <kitche> nullmind: I mean to find the firmware that will work nicely with your card some cards can't use certain firmware from what I have found out
[05:05] <TIM90> Good instincts tell you what to do long before your head has figured it out!
[05:05] <kmeyer> wastrel: nothing
[05:05] <kmeyer> wastrel: well, ruby1.8-dev, but it appears to be broken.
[05:05] <wastrel> kmeyer:  ruby1.9-dev seems to be in universe...
[05:05] <hangfire> kmeyer, open up synaptec and do a search for ruby
[05:05] <kmeyer> I can't open synaptic :\
[05:06] <dabaR> is it not where it always is?
[05:06] <dabaR> do you use kubuntu?
[05:06] <kmeyer> I'm using ssh atm
[05:06] <kmeyer> :P
[05:06] <dabaR> kmeyer: makes sense
[05:06] <TJ> kmeyer: apt-cache search ruby
[05:06] <wastrel> dabaR:  did you see my vim stuff before you crashed?
[05:06] <kmeyer> TJ: did
[05:06] <user-land> i limit my p2p connections to something around 800, can this be too much for Ubuntu ?
[05:06] <noway_> I have been following some guides to install XGL, and when I try to apt-get compiz, it fails saying broken packages
[05:07] <noway_> is there something I can do
[05:07] <eigenlambda> user-land: what do you mean?
[05:07] <wastrel> noway_:  maybe ask on #ubuntu-xgl
[05:07] <eigenlambda> 800kbps max upload?
[05:07] <eigenlambda> ubuntu has no artificial limits.
[05:07] <user-land> eigenlambda, i don't know. no, i think it is something like sockets ?
[05:08] <TIM90> hey guys just found this nice thing sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:08] <EpP> is the new egdy ubuntu seem quicker then dapper?
[05:08] <user-land> the speed i regulate no problem.
[05:08] <JoseStefan> i gtg
[05:08] <foof00> think i found a bug in firefox
[05:08] <foof00> anyone can test?
[05:09] <bintut> hello all..
[05:09] <kitche> foof00: what's the bug?
[05:09] <eigenlambda> lol
[05:09] <foof00> type and number into the address bar, and feeling lucky search will fail
[05:09] <dabaR> wastrel: no
[05:09] <eigenlambda> how many sockets can you have in linux?
[05:09] <bintut> how can i make use of the netselect-apt tool on ubuntu edgy?
[05:09] <dabaR> wastrel: and that was weird, it locked up I had to reboot
[05:09] <EpP> does edgy seem more responsive then dapper>
[05:09] <eigenlambda> i dont know, i think about 8000 or something
[05:09] <foof00> eigenlambda, hi thomas :-)
[05:09] <WoP> I'm attempting to install my nvidia drivers, but it says X needs to be shutdown first. How do I do this?
[05:09] <user-land> thanks, eigenlambda.
[05:09] <wastrel> dabaR:  install vim-full  and make sure it's selected for use  with sudo update-alternatives --config vi
[05:09] <bintut> i mean, i want to have a specific mirror in my /etc/apt/sources.list that is near and fast from my location..
[05:09] <dabaR> wastrel: I installed the vim package.
[05:09] <eigenlambda> l
[05:10] <kitche> foof00: that's not a bug
[05:10] <dabaR> wastrel: it was not installed :-/
[05:10] <bintut> !netselect-apt
[05:10] <ubotu> netselect-apt: Choose the fastest Debian mirror with netselect. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.ds1-8 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 60 kB
[05:10] <foof00> eigenlambda, well 65536 tcp sockets to be exact
[05:10] <ltR^> I plugged my MP3 Player in, in dapper it would mount it but now i plug it in and nothing happens
[05:10] <dabaR> wastrel: yet I could vi, and that vi behaved like vi, not vim, in regards to moving around lines in edit mode
[05:10] <foof00> kitche, no?? why not?
[05:10] <foof00> kitche, i wanted to go to 2600.com, i typed "2600", and it went no where
[05:11] <foof00> to me thats a bug!
[05:11] <nemik> So everyone using edgy now? wanna upgrade from dapper but wondering if anyone had any problems with a dell 700m? wireless on ipw2200bg still great?
[05:11] <wastrel> dabaR:  vim is installed by default as vim.basic it seems - i dunno much more, or why... just what i see with  update-alternatives --config vi
[05:11] <foof00> what is the benefit of Edgy over Dapper?
[05:11] <wastrel> edgy is newer
[05:11] <foof00> wasabi, is it less stable/
[05:11] <nemik> foof00: faster startup time, new gnome interface, firefox 2.0
[05:11] <kitche> foof00: firefox can't understand numbers think it can't parse them to google
[05:11] <eigenlambda> lol ya
[05:11] <Specialbuddy> i read today that you can read and write on Edgy.  Is this true and if it is how can it be done?
[05:11] <foof00> where is grumpy groundhog?
[05:11] <dabaR> foof00: there is a new kernel, newer app versions, and some new apps
[05:11] <Xenguy> foof00: fresh off the press
[05:12] <neuro_> newer packages, but supported for a shorter period of time (18mo compared to dapper's 60mo)
[05:12] <eigenlambda> that def. is a bug
[05:12] <Xenguy> foof00: like, today :-)
[05:12] <EpP> wastrel, does the new edgy have as much response imporovement as breezy -> dapper?
[05:12] <foof00> kitche, yea its a bug
[05:12] <wastrel> EpP:  i don't notice much difference
[05:12] <eigenlambda> lol
[05:12] <dabaR> foof00: it does not exist, except in the minds of the devs, it is a collection of cvs exports.
[05:12] <Specialbuddy> foof00, get edgy, it's super nice :)
[05:12] <eigenlambda> how to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[05:12] <hangfire> edgy uses a newer version of X doesnt it?
[05:12] <dabaR> foof00: it boots pretty fast
[05:12] <MasseR> hangfire: Ye
[05:12] <MasseR> s
[05:12] <EpP> wastrel, is there a list of 'whats new'?
[05:12] <Xenguy> !edgy
[05:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[05:12] <kitche> foof00: then report it to launchpad and mozilla
[05:12] <foof00> eigenlambda, -> sed -i 's/dapper/edgy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:12] <adrenaline> does the 3d drivers for ati work in ubunto 200m ati?
[05:12] <Syrra> :/
[05:13] <dabaR> EpP: ya, kinda, at the wiki, EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:13] <Specialbuddy> does anyone know how to read and write to ntfs?
[05:13] <foof00> eigenlambda, this is kristian
[05:13] <janek011235> hello, I installed Cisco VPN 4.8 on Efty, installed the .sh file successful. When I try to connect in terminal with profile(host address), username, and password; I am returned the message: "Could not attach to driver. Is kernel module loaded?" what does this mean?
[05:13] <TJ> eigenlambda: gksudo "update-manager -c 0d"
[05:13] <ulinskie> how can I uninstall wine?
[05:13] <easytiger> !ntfs
[05:13] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:13] <eigenlambda> foof00: i totally guessed
[05:13] <MasseR> adrenaline: Yes, but you have to downlaod from ati's site
[05:13] <|thunder> !fuse
[05:13] <ppires> hi there
[05:13] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:13] <adrenaline> cool
[05:13] <foof00> eigenlambda, then aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:13] <MasseR> The one in the repo is too ol
[05:13] <MasseR> d
[05:13] <adrenaline> dl ubuntu no MasseR
[05:13] <user-land> one progress is edgy amd64 is able to play wmv files :-)
[05:14] <foof00> janek011235, modpobe
[05:14] <Nem|ltop> i have an error code now guys
[05:14] <adrenaline> MasseR, dling ubunto now can't seem to find any other distros that drive works with
[05:14] <kitche> foof00: but I can tell you that in firefox address bar it won't do numbers since it can't parse them to google like it can for keywords and take you to the page
[05:14] <MasseR> adrenaline: Sure why not :)
[05:14] <Nem|ltop> it seems to have booted to grub but i get "error 21: selected disk does not exist"
[05:14] <MasseR> I'm using it now too
[05:14] <foof00> kitche, why not?
[05:14] <nemik> so anyone installed edgy on a laptop yet? is everything alright?
[05:14] <ppires> Hey! When I try to install vmware-player on Edgy it says it will remove gaim, gaim-encryption and ubuntu-desktop. Any workaround on this? Tks
[05:14] <Syrra> Hey, I've been trying to update via gksu "update-manager -c" and it seems to get hung downloading the 21st file when it first starts downloading and then it displays "Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg Temporary failure resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org'"
[05:14] <adrenaline> keeps getting pissed about Mesa or something MasseR
[05:14] <dabaR> nemik: not all laptops are made the same
[05:14] <EpP> nemik, what laptop you got?
[05:14] <nemik> I got a Dell 700m
[05:14] <MasseR> adrenaline: I'm pretty sure someone can fix it here
[05:15] <adrenaline> tried centos and slackware but to no avail MasseR
[05:15] <nemik> want to make sure the ipw2200 card is still superb
[05:15] <eigenlambda> woooooo.... update-manager is upgrading...
[05:15] <EpP> epp, i just got it. It seems to run well on my lenovo z60m
[05:15] <eigenlambda> this in pretty xciting.
[05:15] <dabaR> nemik: I got a dead powerbook g4 last generation they made them, which makes it less than a year old
[05:15] <nemik> EpP, cool
[05:15] <kitche> foof00: it uses keywords not numbers for example if you type in hacker magazine it will take you to 2600
[05:15] <adrenaline> I am downloading it now
[05:15] <MasseR> adrenaline: I'm sure everything is fixable
[05:15] <foof00> kitche, yeah but if i type 2600 into google, it works :-)
[05:15] <v1per> linux is like a game
[05:15] <ulinskie> how can I uninstall wine in my system?
[05:15] <v1per> what i do does not seem real
[05:15] <joeljkp> how do i switch to the new 3-pane evolution layout?
[05:15] <Flannel> ulinskie: remove it with your favorite package manager
[05:15] <ppires> ulinskie: sudo apt-get remove wine
[05:15] <EpP> does the new release include network-manager on install?
[05:16] <kitche> foof00: yes that's because it's not parsing it like firefox has to
[05:16] <Syrra> So... do I just try again tomarrow?
[05:16] <sbalneav> foof00: Because it thinks you might be trying to type a number, like 192.168...
[05:16] <eigenlambda> any way to change firefox's default behavior when something that isn't a URI is given in the location bar?
[05:16] <RobNyc_> ok i tried what the wiki siad but the wiki is out of date because i tried that same things and it wouldnt work
[05:16] <eigenlambda> oh rite
[05:16] <eigenlambda> lol
[05:16] <RobNyc_> any other ways of reinstalling grub
[05:16] <dabaR> Syrra: no, just remove the plf repo from your sources.list and then try again. or remove the plf repo through synaptic.
[05:16] <nemik> ok, so i'm gonna get eft on my laptop but reformatting the whole thing (ntfs has too big a partition now) i'm backing up /home, /etc and /var anything else I need?
[05:17] <dabaR> nemik: is there anything else anywhere else?
[05:17] <foof00> sbalneav, there are no dots
[05:17] <ppires> Hey! When I try to install vmware-player on Edgy it says it will remove gaim, gaim-encryption and ubuntu-desktop. Any workaround on this? Tks
[05:17] <nemik> dabar: nice, hehe i don't think so but that's why I ask. maybe user/local?
[05:17] <dabaR> nemik: what do you need the /etc for and /var?
[05:17] <wastrel> /usr/local
[05:17] <sbalneav> you can type in full 32 bit undotted numbers.
[05:17] <sbalneav> They're still ip addresses.
[05:18] <eigenlambda> foof00: try2type 1209223574 into location bar
[05:18] <Nem|ltop> guys how can i find out which partition my boot is on
[05:18] <nemik> dabaR: /etc i know has my wpa_config and var has www
[05:18] <janek011235> hello, I am trying to setup my campus e-mail account in evolution. there is a field required for me to continue in the setup for my microsoft exchange server account. what is "OWL URL" ?
[05:18] <Nem|ltop> i need it in the format like hd(#,#)
[05:18] <kitche> eigenlambda: yes but I just tried fixing it and it still does it sicne it says keyword don't think firefox sees 2600 as a keyword or any number
[05:18] <gop_> hey samba is giving me this error when I do mount -a
[05:18] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: Which partition is it on in linux?
[05:19] <wastrel> janek011235:  your campus email is exchange?
[05:19] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, i don't know, this is what im trying to find out
[05:19] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, i know its on /dev/sdc
[05:19] <foof00> eigenlambda, you converted to decimal
[05:19] <Nem|ltop> but i don't know which partition
[05:19] <eigenlambda> ya
[05:19] <eigenlambda> ^_^
[05:19] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: Alright, you know which partition?  which partitions do you have on sdc?
[05:19] <foof00> eigenlambda, thats retarded i thought only IE did that long ago?
[05:19] <gop_> 4038: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[05:19] <foof00> eigenlambda, firefox implemented that "feature" ?
[05:19] <janek011235> wastrel: by this I mean that it is my university e-mail account
[05:19] <Nem|ltop> its either the 2nd or 3rd partition
[05:19] <gop_> but it the right share
[05:19] <Nem|ltop> one is swap the other is root, but i don't know
[05:19] <sbalneav> It's not a feature.
[05:19] <TIM90> gksu "update-manager -c" dosent work ,
[05:19] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: check your fstab
[05:19] <sbalneav> It's part of the standard.
[05:19] <Nem|ltop> how?
[05:19] <eigenlambda> apparently.
[05:19] <TIM90> tryiign to get adgy
[05:20] <eigenlambda> yes, it def. is retarded
[05:20] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: less /etc/fstab
[05:20] <wastrel> janek011235: I am surprised that your university email account is on an exchange server.
[05:21] <dabaR> nemik: you could sudo dpkg -l >installedPackages to know what to install so you don't have to come up with it every time you install anew...
[05:21] <TIM90> E: Couldn't find package ubuntu6.10,what can i do
[05:21] <foof00> wasabi, microsoft gives away its software for free to unis
[05:21] <dabaR> TIM90: what is package ubuntu6.10?
[05:21] <foof00> wasabi, it is almost bad practice
[05:21] <nemik> dabaR: cool, thanks a lot
[05:21] <Flannel> dabaR: I think he was trying to upgrade to edgy
[05:21] <dabaR> wastrel: that's $20
[05:22] <TIM90> EdgyUpgrades
[05:22] <gop_> hey any here know why I am getting this error when I do mount -a 4038: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[05:22] <gop_> altough the sharename is the same
[05:22] <dabaR> Flannel: that is an interesting way to do that, and has 0% likelihood to work...
[05:22] <Falstiu1> ppires: on dapper the vmware-player in the repos never worked for me ... I just installed it from the vmware site.
[05:22] <RobNyc_> !grub
[05:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:22] <dabaR> TIM90: that is not how it works, read the wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyUpgrades page again
[05:22] <wastrel> dabaR:  what's $20?
[05:22] <dabaR> wastrel: oh, sorry
[05:22] <RobNyc_> that grub wiki is out of date
[05:22] <dabaR> nemik: that's $20
[05:22] <joeljkp> how do i switch to the new 3-pane evolution layout?
[05:23] <Flannel> RobNyc_: whats out of date on it?
[05:23] <TIM90> dabar i think i know what you mean ,sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:23] <RobNyc_> Flannel, i tried doing what the Recovering ubuntu After installing windows and it wouldnt work so theres need to be another way
[05:23] <nemik> dabaR: ok :( what's your paypal. ;)
[05:23] <Flannel> TIM90: no, read that page.
[05:23] <TIM90> ok
[05:23] <janek011235> wastrel: I mean I use Microsoft Exchange Server option in my Outlook on windows, yes my university used Microsoft Exchange Server
[05:24] <Flannel> RobNyc_: which did you try, and what didn't work?
[05:24] <dabaR> wastrel: aww, that is totally crappy, why remove my features:P I can not search in the address bar in epiphany either. I know how to fix it, though, I think...
[05:24] <dabaR> TIM90: no, I mean, read the page.
[05:24] <nemik> so what is recommended for laptop dual boot, windows first then ubuntu or vice-versa? i'm looking to give windows less space
[05:24] <unixslut> don't know
[05:24] <Flannel> nemik: windows first
[05:24] <dabaR> TIM90: you are not near the correct way to upgrade, the way you are talking about.
[05:24] <dabaR> unixslut: what is a unix slut?
[05:24] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, /dev/sdc should = hd2 right?
[05:25] <Flannel> nemik: if you're doing a fresh install, then make windows only install on the partition you want it on ultimately
[05:25] <TIM90> ohh i see now
[05:25] <Meshezabeel> where can iI find release notes that are new to this version that weren't in 6.06?
[05:25] <nemik> Flannel: really? still?
[05:25] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: right, but you need a second number
[05:25] <eigenlambda> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg Temporary failure resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org'
[05:25] <TIM90> do i need to burm
[05:25] <Nem|ltop> yeah
[05:25] <Nem|ltop> livecd is freakin slow
[05:25] <eigenlambda> ^^ when using upgrade tool to upgrade ubuntu to 6.10
[05:25] <Flannel> nemik: still? what?  Yes, Windows doesn't play well with others.
[05:25] <syrnux> does anyone know how to set evolution to convert all incoming emails to plain text?  it used to do it, but i can 't seem to find the option in this newer version (v2.6.1)
[05:25] <TIM90> do i need to burn a cd,i find that long but easy
[05:25] <TIM90>   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:25] <TIM90> (change for the appropriate distribution)
[05:26] <nemik> Flannel: i was thinking to just divide them but yes, a post-win install will probably overwrite grub on the MBR won't it...ok cool
[05:26] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, is there any other way to find out what partition its on
[05:26] <dabaR> TIM90: no, that page talks about 2 ways which do not involve a download of a CD, did you read the wiki page?
[05:26] <Hikaru79> Hi; when trying to install Edgy from the desktop CD, it always hangs at 34% of "Copying Files". I have tried it using two different CD Drives, and I *have* run the "Check CD for defects" scan, and it came out fine; is htis a known problem?
[05:26] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, all im seeing is unionfs and tmpfs
[05:26] <TIM90> that would be distribution ubuntu6.10 or Edgy Eft
[05:26] <Flannel> Meshezabeel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:26] <TIM90> i have read it ,dab
[05:26] <Meshezabeel> tx Flannel!
[05:26] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: you're looking for the partition mount points, not the fs types, do you have a /boot? if not, /boot will be in /
[05:27] <Rav|strangler> is there anyway to speed up the Distribution Upgrade?
[05:27] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, i have no /boot, just swap and /
[05:27] <RobNyc_> Flannel, it said start the installation and moutn everything but everything is already mounted .. and it wouldnt go after
[05:27] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: then / is the partition you want
[05:27] <wastrel> Rav|strangler:  no, the downloads are slow because there's a lot of traffic on the servers
[05:27] <Rav|strangler> ahhh
[05:27] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, ok so it says unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0, what does that mean
[05:27] <Rav|strangler> makes sense
[05:27] <Flannel> RobNyc_: you were using the liveCD? or the Alternate CD?
[05:27] <TIM90> :cry:
[05:27] <RobNyc_> Flannel, livecd
[05:27] <|thunder> is the edgy installer the same is the dapper one? as far as mount points is concerned ?
[05:28] <RobNyc_> im gonna try again
[05:28] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: that's not important, the important thing is which partition number it is, look all the way to the left, it'll list it
[05:28] <RobNyc_> i tried the wrong thing
[05:28] <wastrel> hi RobNyc_
[05:28] <Flannel> |thunder: mount points?  yes, edgy and dapper share the same linux filesystem heirarchy
[05:28] <marcrosoft> anyone wanna guess why nautilus crashes when viewing a certain folder? ...
[05:28] <roughtrader> is there an K8-smp kernel available for edgy?
[05:28] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, theres nothing to the left that i see
[05:28] <RobNyc_> hi wastrel
[05:28] <Nem|ltop> thats all i see
[05:28] <|thunder> Flannel; i meant the dialog to assign parts to mount points specifically
[05:29] <Flannel> RobNyc_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0  mentions nothing about mounting, or starting the installation or anything of that sort
[05:29] <janek011235> hello, I am using edgy eft, if I go up or down on my volume control in any fashion, there are intervals of louder and lower sound volume, what is the problem?
[05:29] <The_Vox> question...anybody know if they got the AMD64 Edgy able to run 32bit stuff from install? or did they stick with 64pure?
[05:29] <nemik> fsck sudo and its seg-faults
[05:29] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: pastebin the results of that, please.
[05:29] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, i haven't used linux in years and years so i apologize but i need a little more direction
[05:29] <Nem|ltop> !pastebin
[05:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:30] <weijie902> hi all
[05:30] <pognot> hi
[05:30] <Flannel> roughtrader: SMP is built in to all of the kernels that have processors that support it now
[05:30] <TIM90> update-manager?
[05:30] <weijie902> i installed ubuntu server 6.10, and i booted into a login prompt, but i cant type anything
[05:30] <pognot> Iam having same problems
[05:30] <Flannel> TIM90: right, use update manager
[05:30] <weijie902> i typed my username but no response
[05:30] <TIM90> ahhhhhhh
[05:30] <roughtrader> Flannel: but should I specifically update to K8 kernel if I'm running 64-bit on an X2 processor?
[05:31] <v1per> !info openoffice.org2-l10n-it
[05:31] <ubotu> Package openoffice.org2-l10n-it does not exist in any distro I know
[05:31] <Nem|ltop> Flannel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28582/
[05:31] <weijie902> pressed keys, but no change , no letters displayed
[05:31] <pognot> with rhythmbox can sameone give me a hand?
[05:31] <Nem|ltop> that is all i have
[05:31] <|thunder> so, there is no #ubuntu+1 right now? Is forwarding me here.
[05:31] <TIM90> !botsnack
[05:31] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:31] <Flannel> |thunder: correct, FF doesn't exist yet
[05:31] <dabaR> weijie902: and your keyboard is plugged in?
[05:31] <joeljkp> ok, why doesn't evolution depend on a spam filter? it doesn't even suggest or recommend one!
[05:31] <weijie902> yes
[05:31] <|thunder> is firefox2 final in the edgy repo?
[05:31] <weijie902> dabaR: yes
[05:31] <RobNyc_> Well I keep getting HAL error when starting ubuntu edgy on both pcs
[05:31] <jrib> |thunder: #ubuntu now supports edgy as well since it has been released
[05:31] <|thunder> right on
[05:32] <lando_> jeebus it feels like ive been downloading and configuring for hours
[05:32] <weijie902> arg
[05:32] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: that's your entire fstab file?  Oh.  You're using the liveCD, huh
[05:32] <Elias-> where can I get ATI Radeon drivers for Ubuntu?
[05:32] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, correct
[05:32] <hackel_> I was a little disappointed the upgrade to edgy didn't work.  Has anyone else gotten this DistUpgradeViewGtk error?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28583/
[05:32] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: you need to mount your HD, and read the fstab from that ;)
[05:32] <Nem|ltop> i can't get this GD thing to install grub correctly i have no idea whats going on
[05:33] <Nem|ltop> k how do i do that
[05:33] <RobNyc_> !ati
[05:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:33] <RobNyc_> Elias-,
[05:33] <Elias-> thanks
[05:33] <TIM90> Could not download all repository indexes
[05:33] <MtJB> i don't seem to be able to find the usbaudio module in edgy
[05:33] <TIM90> http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Temporary failure resolving antesis.freecontrib.org
[05:33] <TIM90> http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Temporary failure resolving antesis.freecontrib.org
[05:33] <TIM90> http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/dapper-seveas/freenx/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 302 Found
[05:33] <TIM90> :(
[05:33] <|thunder> !paste
[05:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:33] <RobNyc_> omg I reinstalled grub since windows bootloader took over and now grub is back but I cant boot windows
[05:33] <joeljkp> ok, why doesn't evolution depend on a spam filter? it doesn't even suggest or recommend one!
[05:33] <RobNyc_> grr
[05:34] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, my drive is on /dev/sdc if that helps
[05:34] <dabaR> TIM90: do you know how to edit your sources.list?
[05:34] <Flannel> TIM90: Remove those repositories, they're not official ubuntu ones, and... Are you still on breezy?
[05:34] <dabaR> !plf
[05:34] <bobbobowitz> can anyone help me with my ipw2200 in edgy?
[05:34] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[05:34] <Meshezabeel> how do I run installers using sudo in gdm (i.e. without using the console?)
[05:34] <TIM90> yes flannel
[05:34] <pognot> was anyone else having problems with Rhythmbox Music Player can't open my music lybrary :S
[05:34] <MtJB> joeljkp, i am not sure i understand your question about evo
[05:34] <dabaR> !no, plf is down, remove it from your sources.list http://plf.zarb.org/
[05:34] <Flannel> TIM90: if you're still on breezy, you need to upgrade to dapper, then to edgy.  You can't go straight from breezy to edgy
[05:34] <TIM90> please show me how to edit the souce list
[05:34] <kitche> joeljkp: well it has a spam filter built in if you want a spam filter you will have to either put one of the server or b use mutt or soemthing like that with procmail or spamassassin
[05:34] <bobbobowitz> I've tried the forums, but when I do make it gives me an odd error, I can get it in a second
[05:35] <MtJB> i want to know who stole usbaudio
[05:35] <joeljkp> mtjb, kitche: well i know you can enable a spam filter from within evolution
[05:35] <weijie902> i installed ubuntu server 6.10, and i booted into a login prompt, but i cant type anything
[05:35] <GeorgeDutch> Hello kan ik get some help?
[05:35] <TIM90> how do i find out wicth version im on ,the i will paste it here
[05:35] <joeljkp> mtjb, kitche: but i was under the impression that it used an external one for the actual filtering... spamassin, bogofilter...
[05:35] <GeorgeDutch> i was first
[05:35] <hackel_> Has the upgrade manager actually worked for anyone else?
[05:35] <dabaR> !ask
[05:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:35] <MtJB> joeljkp:  i use spamassassin, courtesy of my ISP
[05:35] <Flannel> TIM90: lsb_release -a will tell you, no need to paste, just read and retype
[05:36] <GeorgeDutch> Hello
[05:36] <joeljkp> mtjb: yes, but i'm talking locally
[05:36] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, i don't know how to mount the drive like you asked
[05:36] <dabaR> hackel_: yess, why does it not work for you
[05:36] <kitche> joeljkp: not really since spamassassin will only work if you have something getting the mail and keeping it in your local mailserver
[05:36] <dabaR> GeorgeDutch: just ask
[05:36] <roughtrader> so is it better to install a K8 kernel over the generic in edgy?
[05:36] <hackel_> dabaR:  I'm tring to figure that out!
[05:36] <TIM90> ok
[05:36] <joeljkp> kitche: no, i've used it before, with spamassassin
[05:36] <GeorgeDutch> how does this work i just install feisty fawn how do i config now?
[05:36] <joeljkp> kitche: look at the evolution help, it even says it
[05:36] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: First, are the drives already mounted?  Check your places menu for a harddrive sort of thing.  I don't know if the liveCD automounts or not
[05:37] <dabaR> hackel_: did you get an error!
[05:37] <GeorgeDutch> !xgl |Georgedutch
[05:37] <ubotu> Georgedutch: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:37] <TIM90> code name dapper
[05:37] <joeljkp> mtjb, kitche: "Evolution uses SpamAssassin* with trainable Bayesian filters to perform the spam check."
[05:37] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, the only thing i can see in there close to that is "home folder"
[05:37] <wastrel> !nl | GeorgeDutch
[05:37] <ubotu> GeorgeDutch: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[05:37] <hackel_> dabaR:  Yeah, I posed it above.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28583/  I see there's already a bug report about a missing python-vte.
[05:37] <tnnc> is there trouble with flash in edgy
[05:37] <hackel_> tnnc:  there's trouble with flash in *everything*
[05:38] <pognot> is anyone else having problems with Rhythmbox Music Player and there music lybrary
[05:38] <kitche> joeljkp: I have never used evolution before since I haven't really used gnome but install spamassassin and set the filters up then sicne it's recommending spamassassin
[05:38] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, there is also computer and in there i see something called file system, is that it
[05:38] <roler> I just enabled metacity to be the compozing manager in edgy... what else do I have to do for the neat 3d effects?
[05:38] <weijie902> !server
[05:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[05:38] <morphish> kitche: did you forget where your home is?
[05:38] <dabaR> pognot: how is this relevant to fixing your issue?
[05:38] <TIM90> can i go from dapper to edgy
[05:38] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: try that. yeah, sounds relatively close
[05:38] <tnnc> hackel  as it did work in dapper but not in edgy
[05:38] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, okay now what
[05:38] <joeljkp> kitche: i'm just wondering why it installs evolution automatically, but no spam filter
[05:38] <MasseR> TIM90: Yes
[05:38] <MasseR> Just check the topic
[05:38] <MasseR> About upgrade part
[05:38] <TIM90> thank you
[05:38] <joeljkp> kitche: and doesn't even mention that you need to install one
[05:38] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: I don't know, what folders do you see?
[05:38] <TIM90> !botsnakc
[05:38] <kitche> joeljkp: because evolution doesn't have one built in
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsnakc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <TIM90> !botsnack
[05:39] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:39] <Meshezabeel> I downloaded an installer for a plugin, is there a way to install it using sudo in gdm without invoking the console?
[05:39] <dabaR> MasseR: he has been trying for a while now, he is slow to get it.
[05:39] <joeljkp> kitche: exactly
[05:39] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, lots of folders in there, bin, boot, cdrom, dev, etc and so on and soforth
[05:39] <joeljkp> kitche: so it should install one along with evolution
[05:39] <TIM90> !yum
[05:39] <ubotu> yum: Advanced front-end for rpm. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4.0-3.1 (edgy), package size 197 kB, installed size 960 kB
[05:39] <TIM90> lol
[05:39] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, im just trying to get grub to work correctly, thats my final goal
[05:39] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: Great.  Look for /etc/ then open the fstab file and pastebin it
[05:39] <MasseR> dabaR: Oh
[05:39] <TIM90> wtf
[05:39] <GeorgeDutch> !botnsnack
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botnsnack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <kitche> joeljkp: no it should not sicne it leaves it to the user to install one
[05:39] <robnyc> !windows
[05:39] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:39] <hackel_> Why is it that Ubuntu doesn't make the upgrade process more simple for new users?  I'm lucky to have been a Debian user for many years so I know where to look, but a normal user wouldn't have a clue.  Why don't they at least have the instructions front and center on their home page, and why not make update manager check automatically by default?  It just seems odd.
[05:39] <robnyc> !grub
[05:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:40] <dabaR> TIM90: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:40] <TIM90> hahahahhaaaaaaaaa
[05:40] <joeljkp> kitche: you're an idiot
[05:40] <robnyc> !dualboot
[05:40] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:40] <GeorgeDutch> !vista
[05:40] <roler> I just enabled metacity to be the compozing manager in edgy... what else do I have to do for the neat 3d effects?
[05:40] <Flannel> !botabuse
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vista - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[05:40] <Xenguy> die
[05:40] <jrib> hackel_: you can do it in one command
[05:40] <wikijeff> If I want to install edgy with a separate partition for /home, how large should I make the partition for /home vs. the partition for everything else?
[05:40] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, i did pastebin my fstab, thats all that was in there, those 2 lines
[05:40] <jrib> ubotu: tell hackel_ about upgrade
[05:40] <dabaR> hackel_: did you try with a normal terminal and gksu?
[05:40] <TIM90> dabar are you from heaven
[05:40] <dabaR> TIM90: yes
[05:40] <hackel_> jrib:  yeah but finding that command isn't trivial for people e.g. looking at the home page.
[05:40] <dabaR> TIM90: now, post that file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:40] <Meshezabeel> dabar is the word
[05:40] <GeorgeDutch> how do i emulate windows vista on feisty fawn with twinviewn aixgl and beryl?
[05:40] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: right, this is the fstab on your harddrive, you currently have a liveCD fstab, we want the one that's stored on the harddrive
[05:40] <TIM90> take me with you when you get back
[05:41] <tnnc> is anyone happen trouble with flash player in firefox
[05:41] <Flannel> GeorgeDutch: Feisty Fawn isn't out yet, please stop trolling.
[05:41] <wastrel> hackel_:  this isn't really a support discussion, so belongs on #ubuntu-offtopic ...
[05:41] <DBO> hey guys, cool it down and keep it on topic =)
[05:41] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, how do i mount the drive then
[05:41] <dabaR> Meshezabeel: my friend says it is not used any more in hebrew spoken language, it is more a religious term
[05:41] <GeorgeDutch> but i am on feisty fawn flannel?
[05:41] <hackel_> wastrel:  lol, that's funny considering it's *specifically* related to Ubuntu!
[05:41] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: You don't need to.  Didn't the filesystem link to your harddrive? theone you just opened
[05:41] <weijie902> i installed ubuntu server 6.10, and i booted into a login prompt, but i cant type anything
[05:41] <GeorgeDutch> Efty edge is a prerelease of feisty fawn?
[05:41] <GeorgeDutch> at least i thought so
[05:41] <kitche> joeljkp: I don't use spamassassin myself but there is spamassassin, procmail, and two other one so that's why evolution doesn't install one since it lets the user decide which filtering system to use it's not liek thunderbird which has a built in filter
[05:41] <GhostFreeman> OK, I keep hearing this annoying "do-do-dooo" sound from time to time
[05:41] <Madpilot> GeorgeDutch, no, Edgy is a full release in it's own right
[05:41] <Flannel> GeorgeDutch: no, Edgy Eft is the release before Feisty Fawn, which won't be out until next April
[05:41] <jrib> hackel_: fwiw, if you click on "exciting new features" it tells you how to upgrade
[05:41] <GhostFreeman> what the hell event is triggering that?
[05:41] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, apparently not, that filesystem went to /, i went to /etc/fstab and there were two lines in there
[05:42] <GeorgeDutch> no what i mean with vista emulation is the transparency effects Flannel
[05:42] <GeorgeDutch> i wasnt trolling
[05:42] <GeorgeDutch> i saw it on youtube
[05:42] <Flannel> GeorgeDutch: you're right, just confused about which release you had ;)
[05:42] <Meshezabeel> dabar, tx I didn't know ;)
[05:42] <tnnc> is anyone else having trouble with flash player in firefox
[05:42] <dabaR> GeorgeDutch: go read some manuals, or visit #ubuntu-xgl and ask there
[05:42] <TIM90> dabar! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28588/
[05:42] <Flannel> GeorgeDutch: you might try asking in #ubuntu-xgl, they specialise in that
[05:42] <wikijeff> If I want to have /home on a separate partition, what should the size of /home compared to the size for the main partition be?
[05:42] <tnnc> is there an fix
[05:42] <GeorgeDutch> ok thanks
[05:42] <hackel_> jrib:  Ah, good point I didn't see that when I was looking, I guess I wouldn't consider it the most obvious place to look.  I'm glad it's there somewhere, though!
[05:42] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: alright, so, open a terminal
[05:42] <fulld> I'm upgrading and I'm getting stuck on monodoc-gtk2.0-manual
[05:43] <fulld> can i skip it?
[05:43] <gogeta> so do i need to update from the rc
[05:43] <Nem|ltop> flashnet okay
[05:43] <wastrel> wikijeff:  how big is your drive?  how much space for linux?
[05:43] <gogeta> or is it aruldy updated
[05:43] <Nem|ltop> Flannel*
[05:43] <GeorgeDutch> :-D
[05:43] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: then you're probably in your home folder, go ahead and make a temp directory 'mkdir temp'
[05:43] <dabaR> TIM90: now remove everything you haev there, and replace with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28589/, then save, close the file, run sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:43] <TIM90> thanks
[05:43] <Nem|ltop> k
[05:44] <jrib> hackel_: I agree a new user may not think to click there for instructions, but the support links should lead to the wiki, here or forums
[05:44] <dabaR> fulld: as far as we are concerned, yes you can, what does your apt system say about it?
[05:44] <wastrel> gogeta:  if you were running the rc and don't have any more updates to install, then your edgy is current.
[05:44] <weijie902> fiesty is 7.04
[05:44] <gogeta> ok
[05:44] <dabaR> TIM90: say thanks after you get it working
[05:44] <stopher> Is Breezy Badger newer than Dapper Drake? What's the new v.?
[05:44] <fulld> dabaR: how would i do that?
[05:44] <Xenguy> stopher: no
[05:44] <gogeta> i like my 3d desktop lol
[05:44] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: then 'mount /dev/hdc1 temp'
[05:44] <gogeta> beryel
[05:44] <Toma-> is it nessecary to install ubuntu-desktop before upgrading via apt? i REALLY dont want to...
[05:44] <dabaR> fulld: what are you upgrading with? the update managed?
[05:44] <TIM90> ok
[05:44] <Flannel> Toma-: you should, yes.
[05:44] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, i believe the drive is sdc, does that sound right?
[05:44] <wastrel> Toma-:  it's necessary if you want the upgrade to work :] 
[05:44] <kitche> stopher: newer version is Edgy but dapper is newer then Badger
[05:45] <Toma-> damnit.
[05:45] <fulld> i'm stuck between dapper and edgy
[05:45] <stopher> Xenguy: kitche: thanks :()
[05:45] <Flannel> Toma-: or rather, if you have ubuntu desktop, and you've removed the meta package, then yes, if you never had it, then no
[05:45] <hackel_> jrib:  Yep, you can find it eventually.  Maybe it's just me but it still seems like Ubuntu is trying to downplay the upgrade route vs. the new install.  I would imagine 90% of visitors are interested in upgrading, not a fresh install.  Oh well, it's still easy and works.
[05:45] <stopher> *:)
[05:45] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: oh, right.  /dev/sdc1 sorry
[05:45] <Toma-> Flannel: i had it, removed it, and about 114 packages that came with it
[05:45] <Akuma_> where's XFree.0.log under ubuntu?
[05:45] <Nem|ltop> Flannel okay now what
[05:45] <CVirus> Toma-: follow the upgrade guide over there http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[05:45] <TIM90> desktop:~$ sudo aptitude update
[05:45] <TIM90> E: Type 1. is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:45] <TIM90> E: Type 1. is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:45] <TIM90> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[05:45] <Naomarik> akuma, should be /var/log
[05:45] <wastrel> Akuma_:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:46] <TIM90> still ok ?
[05:46] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: browse to that folder in your file browser (it's in your home folder) and look for /boot or /etc inside that folder
[05:46] <Toma-> CVirus: yes, im debating the need to have the ubuntu-desktop package installed, from that guide
[05:46] <lampshade> once your sources are changed to Edgy, is upgrading with that gksu command the same as apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:46] <dabaR> TIM90: remove the numbers from the lines, make deb the first word, then try again.
[05:46] <dabaR> lampshade: yes, it is always the same
[05:46] <Flannel> Toma-: Well, it's up to you then.  The reason you should have it is because there may be new ubuntu-desktop packages brought in, that won't otherwise be installed, because theyre not upgrades from old versions, etc
[05:46] <CVirus> Toma-: you need the meta package for your distro ... whether its Kubuntu or Ubuntu or Edubuntu
[05:46] <TIM90> ok
[05:46] <Nem|ltop> ugh im getting permissions problems
[05:47] <tnnc> is there an fix
[05:47] <AngryElf> why can't mythfrontend "connect to master backend server".....it's running, any ideas?
[05:47] <Akuma_> wastrel: just tried, its not either
[05:47] <adiabatic> How can I disable the "last message repeated N times" behavior in syslog in ubuntu?
[05:47] <Toma-> Flannel: hmm ok, thx
[05:47] <lampshade> dabaR: just wanted to make sure cause the other one failed on me and I tried to run it again only for it to tell me to use dist-upgrade so yeah I was just checking
[05:47] <tnnc> for flash not working in firefox on edgy
[05:47] <lampshade> thanks
[05:47] <Toma-> ill just get the CD and upgrade that way
[05:47] <Naomarik> anyone know about running ubuntu within windows via vmware? I'm wondering if it'd be beneficial to install the propriertary ati drivers
[05:47] <wastrel> Akuma_:  anything in /var/log/ that says Xorg?
[05:47] <roler> how do I enable the composite manager in edgy?
[05:47] <nickv111> Hey
[05:47] <dabaR> Nem|ltop: is it ntfs?
[05:47] <Flannel> Toma-: but, if you're satisfied that you can go on your own, you don't need to reinstall, just be aware you might be missing more from the full desktop than just the packages you removed
[05:47] <wastrel> roler:  ask on #ubuntu-xgl
[05:47] <nickv111> What's the package for developer documentation?
[05:47] <nickv111> I need to look up man pages for C functions
[05:47] <Nem|ltop> Flannel "you do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of temp"
[05:47] <wastrel> nickv111:  manpages-dev
[05:48] <progek> can someone please help me out. I am trying to set up apache for a second time. Last time I did it everything worked out the first time. Ok, first off my isp blocks port 80 so I changed the port in apache to 84. I restarted apache and can confirm it works by entering localhost:84. The problem comes from outside my LAN. I am behind a router and port forward 84 to my LAN ip but I still cannot access my site outside my network. I felt it may be
[05:48] <dabaR> Nem|ltop: what file system is on there?
[05:48] <nickv111> wastrel: Thanks
[05:48] <CVirus> Toma-: I'm so sorry ... I thought this was #Kubuntu
[05:48] <CVirus> Toma-: I apologize
[05:48] <Toma-> Flannel: AHH, so all should go to plan but ill be missing things? cool
[05:48] <Nem|ltop> dabaR, i don't know, ext3 probably?
[05:48] <Toma-> CVirus: its ok :D
[05:48] <deema> HEEELP! I CANNOT change my refresh rate!!!
[05:48] <Nem|ltop> im just doing what hes telling me to do
[05:48] <floppyears> hi
[05:48] <hackel_> Someone should create a 6.06-6.10 local upgrade repository as a torrent or something.  I'm downloading at 11K/s!
[05:48] <Akuma_> wastrel: hmm, you're right, case sensitivity must be a common newb problem eh
[05:48] <jordan> sooooo... everyone here use ubuntu?
[05:48] <Flannel> hackel_: so, get the torrent
[05:48] <floppyears> do you guys know of a program that can convert wav -> wma in ubuntu ?
[05:48] <TIM90> Fetched 4705kB in 13s (359kB/s)
[05:48] <TIM90> Reading package lists... Done
[05:48] <dabaR> Flannel: what is the fs?
[05:48] <Nem|ltop> apparently not me
[05:48] <Toma-> Flannel: im a big boy, i can clean up my own mess, if i break somethng :)
[05:48] <hackel_> Flannel:  Does it support upgrades and not just a fresh installation?
[05:49] <Flannel> dabaR: should be ext3 I imagine, it's his old linux stuff, he's trying to figure out where /boot is so he can reinstall grub
[05:49] <dabaR> TIM90: what is that? that is the last 2 lines of sudo aptitude update?
[05:49] <Flannel> hackel_: grab the alternate CD, and you can upgrade from it
[05:49] <Nem|ltop> nono
[05:49] <dabaR> Flannel: mount it with the -ousers option
[05:49] <tokyoahead> hi all... I tried to install 6.1 on a USB stick (4GB) but it carshes in the middle because there is not enough space... how much space does ubuntu take? and where can I set what packages are to be installed to the drive??
[05:49] <Flannel> dabaR: tell him that, not me ;)
[05:49] <hackel_> Flannel:  Can you upgrade by just mounting the CD image, without burning it?
[05:49] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, can i tell you my whole story, im going to develop an ulcer here
[05:49] <dabaR> Flannel: you tell him, that is why I tolf you.
[05:49] <Xenguy> floppyears: wma sux, so use a free format like .ogg (or least .mp3)
[05:49] <TIM90> now im doing ,sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:49] <dabaR> Nem|ltop: why an ulcer? no need to ask permission to type messages here.
[05:50] <floppyears> Xenguy: I know it sucks big time
[05:50] <dabaR> TIM90: sounds good. ttyl.
[05:50] <fulld> can i uninstall force mono?
[05:50] <floppyears> but I'm using a program to transcribe the audio to text and it supports wma :(
[05:50] <Flannel> hackel_: I think apt-cdrom should work with a loopback, sure.
[05:50] <fulld> without it trying to delete any files
[05:50] <davvs> is foo.tgz same filetype as foo.tar.gz ?
[05:50] <Leone> can i update to edgy if i have breezy?
[05:50] <TIM90> Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
[05:50] <TIM90> nautilus recommends fam
[05:50] <TIM90> Score is -1438
[05:50] <TIM90> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] 
[05:50] <Xenguy> floppyears: it's a proprietary windows file format, so it doesn't belong here (IMHO :P )
[05:50] <dabaR> fulld: stop askking for permission to do things with your system, and ask how to do what you want to do.
[05:50] <wastrel> Leone:  you'd need to upgrade to dapper first
[05:50] <Flannel> Leone: you need to update through Dapper
[05:50] <hackel_> Flannel:  thanks
[05:50] <Nem|ltop> alirght
[05:50] <floppyears> I know, that's why I asked anyway
[05:50] <deema> HEEELP! I CANNOT change my refresh rate!!!
[05:51] <dabaR> TIM90: ya, pastes to pastebin, the site you pasted the file to
[05:51] <Leone> thanks wastrel  and Flannel
[05:51] <floppyears> maybe somebody would know of a program or something that could help me
[05:51] <dabaR> deema: why?
[05:51] <deema> I don't know!
[05:51] <GeorgeDutch> How do i open files from my windows partition in Edgy Eft?
[05:51] <TIM90> paste all the terminal says ??
[05:51] <baliw> hi everyone
[05:51] <deema> there is no option
[05:51] <Nem|ltop> Flannel and dabaR, i have a 320gb seagate with windows xp NTFS on it, shrunk the partition, set aside 20gb for ubuntu, gave 1gb to swap, the rest to /
[05:51] <fulld> dabaR: sorry. i can't upgrade because of monodoc-gtk2.0-manual keeps crashing when i upgrade or delete it; how do I get past that?
[05:51] <wastrel> !ntfs| GeorgeDutch
[05:51] <ubotu> GeorgeDutch: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:51] <dabaR> TIM90: to paste.ubuntu-nl.org, yes
[05:51] <jdrake> So has the ubuntu upgrading gone smoothly for most?
[05:51] <tokyoahead> hi all... I tried to install 6.1 on a USB stick (4GB) but it carshes in the middle because there is not enough space... how much space does ubuntu take? and where can I set what packages are to be installed to the drive??
[05:51] <GeorgeDutch> thanks
[05:51] <Nem|ltop> Flannel and dabaR, problem is that i've tried installing ubuntu like 5 times now and when i reboot it just boots straight to windows instead of grub
[05:52] <dabaR> fulld: did you remove the package? or at least tried to, and how?
[05:52] <deema> tokyoahead, a normal install on a USB stick? that might be a bad idea
[05:52] <joeljkp> jdrake: yes, but i upgraded from scratch
[05:52] <tokyoahead> deema it seems to work so far
[05:52] <dabaR> jdrake: there was no poll
[05:52] <Nem|ltop> Flannel and dabaR, furthermore, it sort of confusing because i have 2 other drives on a raid array that i don't want to touch or get them involved in the process
[05:52] <deema> because..
[05:52] <Candamir> I tried gksu "update-manager -c" and it didn't mark any new packages
[05:52] <deema> is it USB flash?
[05:52] <Nem|ltop> thats my situation
[05:52] <fulld> dabaR: I am using aptitude to remove that package, but I get ** ERROR **: file threadpool.c: line 990 (mono_thread_pool_init): assertion failed: (async_call_klass)
[05:52] <deema> or USB HD
[05:52] <baliw> i just installed ubuntu a few hours ago. so far, so good, except that i don't know how to go about it
[05:52] <tokyoahead> deema: usb flash
[05:52] <deema> mini HD
[05:52] <jdrake> I need to do a reinstall onto a new harddrive and a different file system. So I will probably wait till the weekend.
[05:52] <Xenguy> baliw: what
[05:52] <UFO64> i am suprised the chat isn't busier with this many people in it
[05:52] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: you could always try the Grub Superdisk, it'll search for a /boot and automatically figure it out:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-f5b2b33b369cf4e319ad0f1df557c42290ba2d33
[05:52] <deema> because flash has a limited number of read/write cycles, and it will stop working after a while
[05:53] <dabaR> deema: so basically you want to ask how to ask the refresh rate? do you know about the xorg.conf file and the refresh rates that can be specified there?
[05:53] <baliw> i'm new to linux/ubuntu @ xenguy
[05:53] <nemik> speaking of which how much is generally good for swap. thinking of 2GB on my laptop. overkilla?
[05:53] <Xenguy> UFO64: people do sleep :-)
[05:53] <wastrel> baliw:  what are you trying to do?
[05:53] <deema> dabar
[05:53] <dabaR> UFO64: keep sending messages like that, and it will be
[05:53] <Specialbuddy> does anyone have xgl or compiz working with edgy yet?
[05:53] <Xenguy> baliw: yeh, but what do you want to do?
[05:53] <tokyoahead> deema its for testing & emergencies only
[05:53] <baliw> use it @ wastrel
[05:53] <jrib> !xgl > Specialbuddy
[05:53] <deema> dabar: yes i've tried that
[05:53] <tokyoahead> deema but du you have an idea how large the install would be?
[05:53] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, im downloading now, please stick around for a while because im sure ill screw it up
[05:53] <dabaR> fulld: I do not know how to fix that, I had to reinstall on mine.
[05:53] <wastrel> baliw  :]    well I guess you're using it for IRC?
[05:53] <baliw> xenguy> i'm trying to run nickjr.com like i did with xp
[05:53] <TIM90> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28593/
[05:53] <fulld> dabaR: what problem did you have?
[05:54] <baliw> wastrel> yup, i need to know how to use this thing.
[05:54] <Xenguy> baliw: what is the function of that d0ze program?
[05:54] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: just follow those instructions, can't lose ;)
[05:54] <baliw> xenguy> it's a website that my boy wants to go to
[05:54] <TIM90> it says i have new updates by the way -:)
[05:54] <Xenguy> baliw: what is the problem then?
[05:54] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, we'll see
[05:54] <Nem|ltop> god, winace fails at bz2
[05:55] <baliw> xenguy> i don't know how to install the flash plugin. I don't know how to get to the terminal and the respective directories in the meager instruction manual
[05:55] <deema> tokyoahead, I think about 1.5 - 1.8gb
[05:55] <baliw> hey hang on
[05:55] <user-land> tokyoahead, it uses 2.6 GB here ...
[05:55] <baliw> got to pick up my boy
[05:55] <tokyoahead> user-land: ah ok
[05:55] <tokyoahead> thanks
[05:55] <deema> that's how much mine used
[05:55] <Toma-> gosh i <3 dist-upgrade. eat ur heart out winXP!
[05:55] <dabaR> TIM90: not sure what to tell you. if you press y, you could break your system a bit, I really don't know what would be best.
[05:56] <charlie_> Is it necessary to get the 64-bit if you have an AMD 64?
[05:56] <dabaR> fulld: same as you with not being able to remove a package.
[05:56] <deema> HEEELP! I'm UNABLE change my refresh rate!!!
[05:56] <Toma-> charlie_: nope, and id advise against it
[05:56] <joeljkp> charlie_: no
[05:56] <charlie_> alrighty, thanks!
[05:56] <Toma-> np
[05:56] <Xenguy> baliw: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[05:56] <Xenguy> baliw: to get a terminal
[05:56] <dabaR> deema: stop shouting, and make a better question if you intend to repeat yourself. Like, specifying what you tried, and what your xorg.conf looks like on a pastebin
[05:56] <Chippy> hey, on gnome-panel, when I create a application shortcut and then move it twice, the shortcut get's erased (but an emapty icon stays, with no properties set).  Is this a known bug, and if not, can anyone confirm it?
[05:57] <morphish> Toma-: what is your main reason to advice against it?
[05:57] <user-land> toma_, why ?
[05:57] <deema> well.. i've spent Hours trying to figure this out
[05:57] <TIM90> wel i do want to upgrade to edgy ,so all my data is safe,rest asured
[05:57] <Xenguy> baliw: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:57] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, wonderful, it seems like my incorrect attempt at installing grub makes it so i can't boot to windows
[05:57] <Toma-> no 64bit flash, java w32codecs
[05:57] <Xenguy> baliw: that should cover flash
[05:57] <dabaR> deema: well, help the people you are hoping to help you by not having to squeeze what you have already tried out of you.
[05:57] <dabaR> TIM90: just upgrade then
[05:58] <Toma-> can cause big let downs and the speed difference between 64-bit and 32 is very minimal!
[05:58] <deema> I will post on pastebin
[05:58] <deema> one minute
[05:58] <Toma-> brb
[05:58] <user-land> toma-, the gstreamer stuff makes w32 superfluous i think.
[05:58] <wastrel> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[05:58] <TIM90> dabaR: dont worry about it,i just want adgy
[05:58] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:58] <dabaR> deema: summarize what you have tried so far as well.
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> so, uh are the ISOs posted for edgy?... final versions
[05:58] <morphish> Toma-: run a 32bit firefox with 32bit flash, or nspuginwrapper (ok that is alpha but does work), i guess i do not miss java? actually would have to see if a 32bit mplayer with w32codecs would work
[05:58] <dabaR> TIM90: I am not worried.
[05:58] <Chippy> hey, on gnome-panel, when I create a application shortcut and then move it twice, the shortcut gets erased (but an empty icon stays, with no properties set, and the default icon of an alert type sign).  Is this a known bug, and if not, can anyone confirm it?
[05:58] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: well, if you can't grab the CD, you can always just shotgun debug grub ;)  try sda1, if that doesnt work try sda2, etc, you can edit the grub commands from the grub menu
[05:58] <wastrel> Xenguy:  he'll need to enable multiverse first.
[05:58] <dabaR> nomasteryoda: did you look on the website?
[05:58] <Xenguy> wastrel: yes =)
[05:58] <TIM90> why have we stoped then
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> er, nope
[05:58] <morphish> Toma-: 15-20% on media encoding can add up significantly
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> thanks
[05:59] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, im on a windows laptop right now but i don't think this GD thing has anything to burn images with
[05:59] <nomasteryoda> busy getting movie trailers with dapper ... for work
[05:59] <dabaR> TIM90: tell the prompt that is asking you what to do to go on by pressing the y key , then enter
[05:59] <nomasteryoda> since firewall blocks them
[05:59] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:59] <TIM90> done
[05:59] <jrib> Chippy: ahhh, I just lost my icon!
[05:59] <user-land> i am wondering if skype can work on the 64 version though.
[05:59] <Chippy> jrib: sorry, and thanks :)
[05:59] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: well, like I said, shotgun debug ;)  You only need to install grub once (to your MBR), after that you can tweak it in place
[06:00] <dabaR> Chippy: go ask the launchpad whether it is a known bug
[06:00] <TIM90> 251MB will be used,like i care
[06:00] <Yoshitsune> anyone else having trouble connecting to the ubuntu forums right now?
[06:00] <Chippy> dabaR: where? #launchpad?
[06:00] <jrib> Chippy: I saw someone complain about that the other day so it is probably already filed on malone, but you should probably check it out and comment
[06:00] <dabaR> Chippy: launchpad.net
[06:00] <Chippy> jrib: will do
[06:00] <GeorgeDutch> My totemplayer is unable to handle avi fileformats how do i install the right codecs and is it possible for me to use amarok and vlc/mplayer in gnome?
[06:00] <Chippy> dabaR: mkay thanks
[06:00] <dabaR> Chippy: or even google...
[06:01] <nomasteryoda> reall dabaR thanks... thought it was there earlier but had not looked for 27th
[06:01] <adamzap> am I in the right place to get installation help?
[06:01] <Nem|ltop> jeeesus this is making me angry
[06:01] <user-land> speed difference is minimal ? i notice cpu activity is almost half what it was on 6.06 32bit version, on 6.10 64bit ...
[06:01] <Chippy> dabaR: mkay
[06:01] <dabaR> GeorgeDutch: /msg ubotu restricted
[06:01] <rylasasin> if I installed xgl and beryl on dapper do I have to do anything special to make it work if I update edgy?
[06:01] <wastrel> adamzap:  yes
[06:01] <dabaR> adamzap: yes
[06:01] <dabaR> Yoshitsune: did you try pinging?
[06:01] <adamzap> i am getting an error that the boot flag ide=nodma usually fixes...was anything changed with this flag in the edgy release?
[06:01] <TIM90> edgy/main ,is it installing ajey?
[06:02] <morphish> user-land: is skype available as source so there can be a 64bit compiled version, or is it distributed as binary only?
[06:02] <Polygon89> hello, if i have /home on another partiton seprate from / , can i just install edgy using a desktop live cd?
[06:02] <TIM90> adgy
[06:02] <Yoshitsune> dabar not yet will do now
[06:02] <wastrel> Polygon89:  yes, just remember to tell the installer where /home is located
[06:02] <Flannel> Polygon89: yes, just mount (but don't format) /home
[06:02] <adamzap> i get [17179717.400000]  hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[06:02] <Polygon89> ok thanks!
[06:02] <goose> hmm a lot of my python packages seem broken
[06:02] <Toma-> morphish: alot of people love java websites, and i didnt know you could run 32 bit apps without some chroot magic?
[06:03] <sivik> how do i tell aptitude/apt-get to install a 64 bit kernel for me
[06:03] <sivik> Toma-, you can sorta
[06:03] <deema> dabar: I've tried the GUI Screen Resolution thing from System > Preferences and it only shows me 85HZ, I KNOW the monitor supports 100HZ at the resolution I want. So I've tried installing the nvidia driver, doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, messing with xorg.conf, Adding my monitor vert and horizontal refresh... cannot get 100 HZ!!!
[06:03] <Deanodriver> does anyone else have trouble with X after upgrading the edgy?
[06:03] <sivik> Deanodriver, yes, everyone has, you have to reinstall the drivers
[06:04] <rylasasin> ok heres a question... suppose I have a small company that makes computers
[06:04] <TIM90> GabeX, you still here
[06:04] <sivik> ok
[06:04] <dabaR> deema: have you googled for your monitor make+model+ubuntu?
[06:04] <sivik> rylasasin, ok, and?
[06:04] <Deanodriver> tried that, downloaded them from nvidia, and they wouldn't install
[06:04] <sivik> Deanodriver, download from aptitude/apt-get no the nvidia website
[06:04] <deema> no
[06:04] <sivik> !nvidia
[06:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:04] <rylasasin> suppose I want to help the cause... is it possible to sell ubuntu with your pcs (instead of windows)? if so how does that work
[06:04] <sivik> follow that howtoo
[06:04] <Deanodriver> nvidia site
[06:04] <poningru> rylasasin: #ubuntu-marketing
[06:04] <sivik> Deanodriver, no, do it from the apt-get not the website
[06:04] <Deanodriver> ok then
[06:05] <Deanodriver> thanks for that
[06:05] <rylasasin> wow ubuntu sure has a lot of offsplit channels
[06:05] <TIM90> GabeX
[06:05] <wastrel> rylasasin:  I don't think any special permission is required to distribute ubuntu in any form.
[06:05] <Deanodriver> it also seemed to remove all of the applications i had installed after installing dapper
[06:05] <sivik> Deanodriver, yw
[06:05] <Chippy> rylasasin: I imagine you just install ubuntu, that's all.  no license or anything
[06:05] <Madpilot> rylasasin, dozens; it's a big project
[06:05] <Nem|ltop> this is killing my laptop
[06:05] <Zer0Ry0k0> Where are programs installed? And is there a special way to make KTorrent auto start torrent files?
[06:05] <hackel_> From 10 to 350 K/s, yes I'd say Mr. Torrent is my friend.
[06:05] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, do i boot from this magic cd?
[06:05] <Gog123> hi
[06:05] <nomasteryoda> wow... lots of torrents too...
[06:05] <sivik> Deanodriver, like what?
[06:05] <nomasteryoda> nice
[06:05] <morphish> Toma-: actually the recommended way in ubuntu seems to be to use (s)chroot since a kernel with ia32 compatability can just run a whole 32bit system, what i mean is having al required 32bit libs in one spot and tell /etc/ld.so.conf where they are so ldd can look for them, this way you can run 32bit binaries on a 64bit system, since there seems to be no package for ubuntu i will just use what i made for another distro on ubuntu the same way, but u
[06:05] <Deanodriver> whilst 'cleaning up obsolete programs'
[06:05] <morphish> ntil i can install (k)ubuntu on that machine i am just dead curious how amd64 is perceived in ubuntu land
[06:05] <Gog123> edgy out????
[06:05] <Gog123> how is edgy??
[06:05] <duncanm> i'm having trouble upgrading from breezy because python2.3-xml won't uninstall
[06:05] <Deanodriver> sensors applet, acroread, etc
[06:05] <kelten> best ever
[06:05] <adamzap> if anyone can help me with boot flags, specifically ide=nodma, please messgae me :)
[06:05] <dabaR> Zer0Ry0k0: yes, a special way
[06:05] <sivik> Gog123, yes, edgy is out, read the topic
[06:05] <morphish> Gog123: gorgeous
[06:05] <user-land> morphish, you can get the skype source code if you sign up as developer.
[06:05] <dabaR> Zer0Ry0k0: are you using kubuntu or the gnome desktop"?
[06:06] <Gog123> edgy kicks ass
[06:06] <Gog123> :)
[06:06] <Zer0Ry0k0> dabaR, Ubuntu gnome
[06:06] <Gog123> wooooooot
[06:06] <baliw> hi I'm back
[06:06] <poningru> duncanm: go into a terminal and type sudo apt-get install python2.3-xml
[06:06] <TIM90> i want to do that ,window swap thing with edgy cant wait till it is installed
[06:06] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: yeah, follow the instructions ;) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-f5b2b33b369cf4e319ad0f1df557c42290ba2d33
[06:06] <Gog123> the upgrade link didnt work
[06:06] <TIM90> GabeX...? were you at dowg
[06:06] <Gog123> so i downloaded it instead
[06:06] <Gog123> failed on trying to download
[06:06] <dabaR> Zer0Ry0k0: and you mean .torrent files you download from websited start in that program when you click on a link in the browser?
[06:06] <gogeta> humm
[06:06] <Gog123> must have been too many people downloading the upgrade :P
[06:06] <gogeta> cedega is locking up at setup
[06:07] <Nem|ltop> ooh so is this thing really magic *sparkly eyes*
[06:07] <morphish> user-land: either way, not very much stuff has issues with being run on a 64bit syste, what i DO NOT know is how the package count is on (k)ubuntu64 compiled stuff, that info i would like to have
[06:07] <Toma-> morphish: but, do you think that guy would have wanted to add stuff to ld.so.conf and install a 32bit environment aswell and do all that messing around? or would be be content with waiting an extra 0.8 of a second for firefox to load?
[06:07] <deema> dabar, you have no other ideas?
[06:07] <Zer0Ry0k0> dabaR, yeah, I would like to have it start from the web page
[06:07] <sivik> how do i find a 64 bit kernel from the repos, do i have to add in 64 repos?
[06:07] <Deanodriver> thanks, brb, going to boot into it again
[06:07] <TIM90> !XGL
[06:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:07] <dabaR> have you tried my last idea?
[06:07] <morphish> Toma-: the ideal would be to fit this into a .deb of course
[06:07] <kelten> How do I install the latest nvidia drivers on edgy?
[06:08] <dabaR> Zer0Ry0k0: that is likely a browser setting, which browser do you use?
[06:08] <Toma-> morphish: that would be so very sweet, if it was done :)
[06:08] <sivik> !tell kelten -> nvidia
[06:08] <Yoshitsune> wow that was weird...
[06:08] <sivik> follow that howto kelten
[06:08] <Zer0Ry0k0> Firefox
[06:08] <kelten> Well it tells me to shutdown X
[06:08] <sivik> !tell kelten  -> nvidia
[06:08] <sivik> !nvidia
[06:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:08] <thin> is the new release a live cd?
[06:08] <sivik> follow the howto kelten
[06:08] <GeorgeDutch> Hey can somebody help me please i am trying to download and install vlc in terminal using : apt-get install vlc. But i am in oem mode and i get this error: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? So can anybody tell me how to fix please??
[06:08] <Flannel> thin: there is a liveCD, yes.
[06:08] <Toma-> kelten: hit ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X
[06:08] <morphish> thin: the "Desktop CD" is a livecd, yes
[06:09] <thin> oh, ok cool
[06:09] <Flannel> GeorgeDutch: close the other package managers, like synaptic, or update maanger, and try again
[06:09] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, i can't find the right option
[06:09] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: where are you?
[06:09] <thin> btw, 0 versions of ubuntu have been able to boot on my system :(
[06:09] <GeorgeDutch> ok thanks Flannel
[06:09] <thin> always disappointing
[06:09] <Toma-> morphish: have you written a spec on that?
[06:09] <Nem|ltop> i'm at the main menu
[06:09] <sivik> kelten: follow the howto for nvidia drivers on the wiki.ubuntu.com website
[06:09] <dabaR> Zer0Ry0k0: edit>prefs>content>manage... button>and so on
[06:09] <thin> and the last version wouldnt work on 6 other systems i tried :(
[06:09] <Nem|ltop> it says on the guide  Select: Restore Grub on MBR
[06:09] <Zer0Ry0k0> kk, thanks, I'l try now
[06:09] <thin> booting as live cd
[06:10] <DigitalNinja> When I boot my system I get messages say something about "cannot access resource". What does this mean?
[06:10] <dabaR> GeorgeDutch: sudo aptitude install vlc
[06:10] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: what options do you see?  It's quite possible wording has changed through versions
[06:10] <Nem|ltop> but the closest i can find is gnu/linux>"fix boot of gnu/linux (grub) is that the right one?
[06:10] <sivik> thin, what would make it not work thin?
[06:10] <Nem|ltop> it sounds close but i wanna be absolutely sure
[06:10] <thin> i have no idea
[06:10] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: probably, what are other ones?
[06:10] <sivik> thin: will it install?
[06:10] <st3v3dnd> I just installed subversion with mod_dav_svn through synaptic, and when loading mod_dav_svn it throws the error: /usr/lib/libsvn_fs_base-1.so.0: undefined symbol: db_create Anyone know what the problem is?
[06:10] <morphish> Toma-: a spec? if that refers to making a .deb i have zero knowledge about making a .deb, and to add 32bit libs for 32bit apps is so simple it needs to spec (sorry, spec somehow makes me think of rpms)
[06:10] <st3v3dnd> I read that it is related to berkeley db, but I have that installed.
[06:10] <duncanm> is firefox 2.0 in edgy?
[06:10] <Flannel> duncanm: yes
[06:10] <morphish> s/needs to/needs no/
[06:10] <Toma-> morphish: a specification, on launchpad, so someone can further look into developing it
[06:10] <dabaR> st3v3dnd: loading it where?
[06:11] <sivik> thin: can you get ubuntu to install?
[06:11] <thin> i stripped it down to just the ram, 1 hard drive, and a trident video card hoping to rule out hardware issues and still no luck
[06:11] <wastrel> Nem|ltop:  i imagine you've already seen the grub wikipage?
[06:11] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, the other ones in gnu/linux is one for LILO, (boot gnu/linux), (boot gnu/linux directly) and (gnu/linux advanced)
[06:11] <fluxinator> is edgy safe?
[06:11] <ubuntu_> I've burned the LiveCD/Install Disk, and began running it, the startup screen is displayed improperly (red displayed as white, blue & green not shown & some graphical artifacts), is this something I should be worried about or will it fix itself on install?
[06:11] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: then yes, that first one is the correct one
[06:11] <sivik> fluxinator, what do you mean by safe, its stable
[06:11] <thin> the other systems were regular dells and gateways about 1-5 years old
[06:11] <Nem|ltop> let it be so
[06:11] <sivik> thin: ok, will ubuntu even install?
[06:11] <dabaR> fluxinator: it has been released as a final version of edgy, but define safe...
[06:11] <st3v3dnd> dabaR: Here's the whole error: "Syntax error on line 2 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.load:Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so into server: /usr/lib/libsvn_fs_base-1.so.0: undefined symbol: db_create"
[06:11] <Nem|ltop> apparently SGD has succeeded
[06:11] <fluxinator> I just mean ready for use
[06:11] <Nem|ltop> oh my god
[06:11] <Nem|ltop> it says filesystem type is ext2fs
[06:11] <Nem|ltop> i thought i did ext3
[06:11] <st3v3dnd> That's from issuing the command /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[06:11] <Nem|ltop> :|
[06:11] <sivik> fluxinator, yes, its stable, go download it or upgrade to it
[06:12] <factotum> so, hows everyones upgrade go? THe only difference Ive noticed is annoying filesize comments at the bottom of the names and a trashbin on my desktop and the i386 kernel instead of my usual k7...joy  haha
[06:12] <nomasteryoda> ok, so i'll seed all the torrents most popular for about 5 days... eat up tons of my bandwidth out, but what the heck... Ubuntu needs it and is the best distro
[06:12] <thin> the last version had a gui based installer when u run from livecd, that installer would always freeze up on the step involving the map
[06:12] <sivik> map of what?
[06:12] <sivik> the drive?
[06:12] <morphish> Toma-: nope, don't know the process for "feature requests" (guessing), my idea was more to offer it and ask what needs to be changed for someone to pick it up
[06:12] <thin> a world map where u pick your location or something
[06:12] <thin> timezone?
[06:12] <Toma-> morphish: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+specs
[06:12] <sivik> thin: thats weird
[06:12] <nomasteryoda> factotum, i did mine about 1 month ago... and it has been rough during the transition... but excellent now
[06:12] <thin> all versions before that, the live cd wont even finish booting
[06:12] <Flannel> thin: have you tried the alternate CDs?
[06:12] <goose> hey what's the command to select a version of a package?    python2.4 seems a little borked on my system
[06:13] <capgadget> e = what if scumx goes broke?
[06:13] <dabaR> goose: man apt-get
[06:13] <morphish> Toma-: what this does not do is allowing you to build 32bit apps, but since all we do here is install binary packages, that point is moot
[06:13] <capgadget> oops
[06:13] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, if this works will i easily be able to check which filesystem i chose? ill just kick myself if i chose ext2
[06:13] <ubuntu_> whats the best firewall package for ubuntu?
[06:14] <dabaR> !best
[06:14] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:14] <dabaR> !firewall
[06:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:14] <TIM90> dabaR: is this large file thats downloading adgy
[06:14] <GeorgeDutch> Cool it worked
[06:14] <goose> dabaR what particularly in man apt-get ;p
[06:14] <goose> it's a ginormous manpage
[06:14] <dabaR> TIM90: what is a possible answer to that? do you mean is it going to take long?
[06:14] <thin> Flannel I've only tried the regular and 64bit and kubuntu
[06:14] <ubuntu_> Im using gnome, can I get firestarter from the normal repos?
[06:14] <Nem|ltop> nevermind because it didn't work
[06:15] <factotum> yeah i was going to wait a bit, but i figured what the heck. Even if I hadnt done it, dont really notice anything different but a shiny boot splash. Suppose that could be considered a good thing
[06:15] <Flannel> thin: the alternate Will almost always work (assuming a good burn)
[06:15] <thin> what is the alternate?
[06:16] <sivik> thin: alternative cd
[06:16] <TIM90> i dont mind if it takes long ,im just going to jump to bed,just asking if you fixing the souces list ,or installing the adgy linux
[06:16] <dabaR> goose: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[06:16] <Flannel> thin: instead of the desktop CD, it's the alternate CD, it's textbased installer, like the old ones
[06:16] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, ok can you walk me through installing ubuntu one last time?
[06:16] <thin> http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu-releases/edgy/ ??
[06:16] <Nem|ltop> ill tell you when i get stuck
[06:16] <dabaR> GeorgeDutch: what worked?
[06:16] <morphish> Toma-: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/32bit-browser-on-amd64 this depends on what i was talking about
[06:17] <goose> dabaR i don't want to pin it .. i want to set it to python2.5   there was something show-alternatives or something for java.
[06:17] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: er... installing ubuntu, like in total?  not me.  I've never used the liveCD.  Someone here should be able to help you though, you want to install grub to the MBR, when/if it asks
[06:17] <HeathenDan> drat, conky isn't on the ubuntu repos anymore (in edgy at least)
[06:17] <Zer0Ry0k0> dabaR: edit>prefs>content>   but I don't see a manage button, I checked "Download Actions" but I can't figure how to add a filetype...
[06:17] <dabaR> TIM90: I do not understand your question.
[06:17] <Toma-> morphish: im writing a spec right now, with your .deb idea :D
[06:17] <daveyj> can someone please help me fix my X?
[06:17] <sivik> daveyj, what card?
[06:17] <Flannel> thin: right, the 'alternate' versions, not the 'desktop' ones
[06:17] <dabaR> Zer0Ry0k0: find where it allows to change what app handles what file type.
[06:17] <Nem|ltop> nobody around here seems to know
[06:17] <daveyj> i dont know what went wrong it was working fine then i did updates and it went bye bye :(
[06:17] <daveyj> nvidisa
[06:17] <daveyj> -s
[06:17] <eschvoca> After upgrading to edgy it looks like software suspend (or hibernate) has made my swap partition unmountable.  Any help?
[06:17] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, i don't even know if im using the livecd
[06:17] <Nem|ltop> i don't think i am
[06:17] <factotum> I did my install with a Debian sarge net install CD, no Im not a masochist
[06:17] <Nem|ltop> just the regular cd
[06:17] <sivik> daveyj, ok, did you reinstall the drivers for the new kernel?
[06:18] <TIM90> i have a file downloading ,is it the adgy edg OS
[06:18] <Meshezabeel> ok, there's a "live cd" and an "install cd" - is the "install cd" the same as the "alternate cd", or is there a 3rd one?
[06:18] <sivik> Nem|ltop, the regualer cd is live
[06:18] <daveyj> well i was using edgy pre-release
[06:18] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: is it textbased? or do you boot to liveCD thing first?
[06:18] <daveyj> then i did the latest upgrade and it stopped workign
[06:18] <sivik> Meshezabeel, live cd and install cd are the same
[06:18] <factotum> just lost my *buntu cd
[06:18] <morphish> Toma-: can i msg you?
[06:18] <barnetod> this channel never sleeps
[06:18] <dabaR> goose: the page clearly shows how to do it, I think, anyhow, for example, it shows this example sudo apt-get install nautilus=2.11.2-0ubuntu1
[06:18] <Toma-> sure
[06:18] <pixelPOET> has anyone gotten the cardreader to work on an HP Paviliion zv5000?
[06:18] <sivik> daveyj, sudo aptitude/apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:18] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, boot
[06:18] <Meshezabeel> sivik live cd and install cd are different
[06:18] <dabaR> TIM90: the upgrade is gonna upgrade you to edgy
[06:18] <sivik> pixelPOET, nope
[06:18] <deema> dabar: google doesn't help
[06:18] <Nem|ltop> i would kill to just have one person help me from start to finish, i've wasted about 3 hours on this
[06:18] <Flannel> Meshezabeel: the desktop CD is the liveCD, the alternate is just an installer.  Both the desktop and the alternate will install the full desktop, there's also the server CD, which installs a GUIless server
[06:18] <dabaR> deema: well, you at least can say you tried now
[06:18] <sivik> Meshezabeel, they weren't in dapper and i'm assuming their the same with edgy
[06:19] <deema> what?
[06:19] <daveyj> already at the newest version
[06:19] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: then you've got the alternate, I can probably answer any questions y uneed answered then
[06:19] <st3v3dnd> anyone have any idea about this svn db_create issue?
[06:19] <TIM90> Thank you , im now going to bed,enjoy.
[06:19] <gogeta> i got a clueles user instaling ram and a video card
[06:19] <Meshezabeel> ok, I'm a bit confused, it says to save bandwidth to update from the alternate cd, but when I go to download page, all I get is "live cd" and install cd"
[06:19] <gogeta> think he blew up his pc lol
[06:19] <TIM90> !botsnack
[06:19] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:19] <daveyj> sivik: i already have the newest ones
[06:19] <Nem|ltop> flannel, ok so im forced to do manual partitioning  because the only option for automatic is to format the whole drive and all my windows crap is on there
[06:19] <TIM90> !enjoy
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enjoy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <Flannel> Meshezabeel: which download page?
[06:20] <TIM90> ohh ok
[06:20] <Toma-> morphish: i dunno if youre PMing me, but i can see anything... anyway https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/32bit-in-64bit-environment
[06:20] <Meshezabeel> Flannel http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/6.10/
[06:20] <sivik> daveyj, did you change the nv to nvidia in the xorg.conf after you ran the nvidia-glx enable
[06:20] <daveyj> yyeah
[06:20] <sivik> Meshezabeel, thats why, your at the educational website
[06:20] <sivik> daveyj, which card?
[06:20] <daveyj> i've had these drivers for a while, it just broke since last reboot
[06:20] <daveyj> nothing in it changed though
[06:21] <Meshezabeel> sivik, oh, there's no alternate version for educational version?
[06:21] <GeorgeDutch> Ok i just started a movie in vlc player than i ended vlc the gui is away i cant see any process of vlc running in taskmanager but i still hear the audio of the movie how do i end it?
[06:21] <daveyj> i think its the 5500
[06:21] <tnnc> anyone having trouble with flash playing in firefox any fix??
[06:21] <goose> dabaR: my intention was to select python2.5 as the default python interpreter among the two that are currently installed. i know i can just change the softlink from python->python2.5  i was wondering if there was an update-alternatives  command to select the default python interpreter. I AM NOT LOOKING TO PIN PYTHON TO 2.4
[06:21] <sivik> Meshezabeel, not that i can tell
[06:21] <Flannel> Meshezabeel: ah.  Apparently... edubuntu calls it the installer, instead of alternate.
[06:21] <Specialbuddy> what is twinview?
[06:21] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, ok so i have 3 partitions going on, /dev/sdc1 thats my big windows NTFS partition, /dev/sdc2 is linux-swap, 1gb, /dev/sdc3 is my / and its 19gb
[06:21] <meltdown> Hey, has anyone upgraded to Edgy yet? I just did, but I'm having problems where whenever something major changes on the screen, I actually see the screen repaint
[06:21] <meltdown> It's quite frustrating
[06:21] <dabaR> goose: man update-alternatives
[06:21] <sivik> daveyj, you may have to use the legacy drivers, not sure with edgy, i just reinstall the nvidia today cause i had to do a new install and i have a nvidia 6600 and it worked following the howto for nvidia from wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:21] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: alright.  sounds good.
[06:22] <nomasteryoda> wow... 800+ kB/s for all my torrents ... download that is
[06:22] <gogeta> witch drivers for a xfx gforce
[06:22] <goose> dabar i did =)  but i can't seem to get anything for python to show
[06:22] <sivik> gogeta, follow the howto
[06:22] <Meshezabeel> sivik, flannel thanks, so I should hopefully be able to upgrade with the edubuntu installer cd? I like edubuntu because it comes with the ktouch keyboarding program and a couple of others.
[06:22] <sivik> !nvidia
[06:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:22] <daveyj> sivik: i'm wondering what changed in the universe updates that caused this to happen
[06:22] <OSV> what is about ftp manager in Ubuntu. I'm seeking something like Total Commander in "must die". Could you help me?
[06:22] <gogeta> open source drivers have 3d on my ati
[06:22] <sivik> Meshezabeel, i'm willing to be that you can install with the other versions
[06:22] <dabaR> goose: chaneg the symlink
[06:23] <Flannel> Meshezabeel: yes, you will be able to upgrade from the installer disks, In all the documentation you read it'll be referenced as "alternate" though
[06:23] <gogeta> lucky to
[06:23] <sivik> gogeta, not sure about ati, i have never gotten my ati card on the laptop to work with 3d
[06:23] <goose> dabaR    yay !
[06:23] <goose> ;p
[06:23] <dabaR> goose: :)
[06:23] <gogeta> couse the closed drivers droped my card
[06:23] <Meshezabeel> Flannel, thanks for the help!
[06:23] <Polygon89> hello, i was just in here trying to install edgy using the live cd while keeping my home/ and other partitions safe
[06:23] <Flannel> Meshezabeel: the upgrade wiki page mentions upgrading from the alternate CD, that'll be what you use, with apt-cdrom
[06:23] <gogeta> witch one
[06:23] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, okay here is where i run into trouble, that final screen "ready to install" says GRUB will be installed to (hd0)
[06:23] <MasseR> gogeta: AFAIK at least r200 has with opensource drivers
[06:23] <luke_> Sup folks.  yay for update day
[06:23] <MasseR> R300 a bit
[06:23] <MasseR> Or something like that they said
[06:23] <rwscold> polygon ok?
[06:23] <Polygon89> anyway, its telling me that i cant install it cause there is no root partiton even though i specified a root partion in the exact drive where i installed it before
[06:23] <sivik> nomasteryoda, what internet are you running to get 800 kb/s down?
[06:23] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, my root is on sdc3, so would i change (hd0) to (hd2,2)?
[06:23] <gogeta> yea but they will fail on the live cd
[06:24] <gogeta> mine shure did
[06:24] <MasseR> nomasteryoda: 8/1mbit/s
[06:24] <OSV> what FTP managers are there in Ubuntu. If there aren't it bad :(
[06:24] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: no, you want to install grub to the MBR, which is the first part of the first drive
[06:24] <daveyj> only 800kb/s down? :)
[06:24] <tnnc> anyone having trouble with flash playing in firefox any fix??
[06:24] <gogeta> so i had to reconfigure without dri
[06:24] <rwscold> polygon u have to make sure it is checked when going through the last part in gparted or whatever
[06:24] <sivik> OSV: do a serach with apt-get
[06:24] <sivik> daveyj, where do y'all live to get something that fast
[06:24] <gogeta> then put it back after itinstalled
[06:24] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, but hd0 isn't even SDC is it?
[06:24] <Polygon89> what do you mean checked
[06:24] <Polygon89> i set it to be the "/"
[06:24] <daveyj> i got a 30/2.2
[06:24] <gogeta> worked
[06:24] <daveyj> ny
[06:24] <sivik> daveyj, fiber?
[06:24] <Polygon89> and its still yelling at me saying "no root partiton"
[06:24] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, my primary hard drive is not plugged into the very first SATA channel
[06:24] <daveyj> cable
[06:24] <sivik> daveyj, how much?
[06:24] <daveyj> not quite sure.. i think somewhere in the area of 60-70
[06:24] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: SATA cable orders don't matter
[06:25] <gogeta> i also had to disable acpi and apic
[06:25] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, okay so what do i change (hd0) to to make this work?
[06:25] <sivik> daveyj, thats nice
[06:25] <rwscold> polygon yet you created the partition and asked to fomrat it?
[06:25] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: do you have any IDE drives?
[06:25] <gogeta> some reasion with those on my pci deviceas or usb 2.0 stuff wouldent kick on
[06:25] <daveyj> yeah i cant complain.. its one of the few things keeping me from moving to texas
[06:25] <Polygon89> i have dapper installed now, and i have a root partiton installed already
[06:25] <sivik> daveyj, you can get fiber in areas here for about the same price with verizon
[06:25] <rwscold> and u are using the live cd?
[06:25] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, i have 1 sata 320gb and then 2x200gb satas in a RAID stripe
[06:25] <Polygon89> i am trying to tell the installer to install edgy to the existiting root partiton
[06:25] <Polygon89> yeah
[06:25] <Suspect> Hi
[06:26] <gogeta> once i did that sri worked on my ati
[06:26] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, the only ide in use is a DVD drive
[06:26] <gogeta> dri
[06:26] <Suspect> I have a problem installing Edgy Eft and I'm wondering if anyone can help me please?
[06:26] <Super> kind of hardcore question
[06:26] <Super> anyone
[06:26] <sivik> daveyj, where in texas would you move
[06:26] <rwscold> polygon i would recommend upgrading from within dapper
[06:26] <Super> apt-get it is not working
[06:26] <gogeta> i updated from rc
[06:26] <sivik> Super, whats the question
[06:26] <gogeta> its fine
[06:26] <sivik> Super, what do you mean not working?
[06:26] <tnnc> anyone having trouble with flash playing in firefox any fix??
[06:26] <Polygon89> yeah
[06:26] <gogeta> apt-get
[06:26] <gogeta> lol
[06:26] <st00ner> firefox is working fine with me
[06:26] <Polygon89> except that will take literally 5 days
[06:26] <gogeta> sudo apt-get
[06:26] <Super> gogeta, i had to do a cold reboot and the system got messed up
[06:26] <Polygon89> at the rate of 10 k/s
[06:26] <rwscold> do it overnight
[06:27] <sivik> tnnc, not having any problems
[06:27] <gogeta> thats odd
[06:27] <Super> i did a fsck and it found a lot of errors
[06:27] <rwscold> it weill take probably about 5 hours
[06:27] <cainlevy> anyone here using edgy/firefox have problems with zimbra?
[06:27] <detectiveinspekt> there is no flash player 8 for linux
[06:27] <Super> fixed them and i was able to boot and go to the shell
[06:27] <sivik> wtf zimbra
[06:27] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: you don't need to change hd0
[06:27] <gogeta> thers flash 9
[06:27] <Super> but no X, not apt-get
[06:27] <detectiveinspekt> ie spiked humor doesn't work
[06:27] <Polygon89> well one last ditch attempt: here is a ss of what im trying to do: http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1152/screenshotmd6.png
[06:27] <st00ner> Has anyone had issues which linux-generic hanging at wating for root...............
[06:27] <Frederick> Can I stop the updating process to edgy while ubuntu still fetchinf packages and continue it tommorow?
[06:27] <Super> wget and dpkg works
[06:27] <tnnc> sivik yours play flash in the new firefox
[06:27] <gogeta> oh you messed up x
[06:27] <Nem|ltop> flashnet, the very first time i tried this i left it at hd0 and it just booted straight to windows after installing
[06:27] <daveyj> sivik: dallas
[06:27] <sivik> daveyj, what area of DFW
[06:27] <ClayG> anyone here  have a laptop they use in their car?
[06:27] <gogeta> maybe you messedup the sources file
[06:28] <Super> do you think it is worth fixing it or should i reinstall. /home is in another partition
[06:28] <ClayG> I am looking for a good laptop mount for the car and a good GPS receiver to plug into it
[06:28] <ClayG> the laptop that is
[06:28] <gogeta> oh if home is safe
[06:28] <sivik> tnnc, i have been in edgy since it was beta 2 and have been running flash
[06:28] <gogeta> yea just do it the easy way
[06:28] <Super> i think i messed up libraries, they got corrupted.
[06:28] <sivik> tnnc: just install the flashplugin-nonfree and it should work
[06:28] <gogeta> use ext3
[06:28] <Super> i was using ext3 actually
[06:28] <sivik> daveyj, dallas or somewhere outside?
[06:28] <gogeta> it can handel a cold boot without messing up
[06:28] <rylasasin> http://picardbot.ytmnd.com/ <== what do I need to do to make the sound work on this site? I have flash.
[06:28] <st00ner> Has anyone had issues which linux-generic hanging at wating for root............... Is there less hardware support in linux-generic than the standard EFT kernel
[06:28] <Flannel> Polygon89: try switching it off of / and back onto /  er... shouldn't you be reformatting all of these?
[06:28] <daveyj> sivik: not sure, didnt look yet :) i was in dallas last year while on tour
[06:28] <gogeta> odd
[06:28] <daveyj> and i looooooooooved it
[06:28] <sivik> daveyj, what kind of tour?
[06:28] <daveyj> my band
[06:29] <deema> where is Tomboy?
[06:29] <Super> gogeta: can you give me the url of an apt-get.deb package
[06:29] <tnnc> sivik well i did an upgrade today from dapper to edgy and it seems to be the only thing not working so far
[06:29] <Polygon89> i want to keep all of those partitons except for root and home
[06:29] <rwscold> polygon since you are basically clean installing edgy would you not have to format the current root
[06:29] <david_> hey, really quick, I have a 30GB external Hard drive(with OSX on it), I want to copy it to my main Hard drive in a way that i can copy it back later and have it boot still
[06:29] <Super> so i can try to download it with wget
[06:29] <gogeta> whats the error
[06:29] <david_> should I use Rsync?
[06:29] <sivik> tnnc: install from apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:29] <Polygon89> ill try it without it clicked
[06:29] <david_> I don't want an image
[06:29] <c|int> guys I'm having problems. cleaning up an install that I accidently closed out, because I knew i Had to export  gcc-3.4
[06:29] <sivik> daveyj, what would you be doing if you moved here
[06:29] <tnnc> sivik ok let me try
[06:29] <nomasteryoda> daveyj, dd should do that
[06:29] <gogeta> if its just the sources you can fix it
[06:29] <c|int> its for vmware
[06:29] <Frederick> Can I stop the updating process to edgy while ubuntu still fetching packages and continue it tommorow?
[06:29] <Super> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[06:29] <Polygon89> still says there is no root partiton
[06:29] <daveyj> sivik: hopefully working!
[06:30] <gogeta> oh
[06:30] <Polygon89> or "root filesystem"
[06:30] <daveyj> nomasteryoda: hm?
[06:30] <sivik> daveyj, doing?
[06:30] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, so you are 100% positive i should leave (hd0) alone?
[06:30] <daveyj> probably computer repair
[06:30] <c|int> hello all btw :-)
[06:30] <sivik> Super, you have to install libstdc++6
[06:30] <daveyj> or maybe the stuff i do now
[06:30] <gogeta> dc++ destoyed
[06:30] <rylasasin> http://picardbot.ytmnd.com/ <== what do I need to do to make the sound work on this site? I have flash. when I run this site in windows it says it needs quicktime
[06:30] <daveyj> all point-of-sale systems
[06:30] <sivik> daveyj, ah, do you have a degree?
[06:30] <Super> how to do that without apt-get?
[06:30] <sivik> daveyj, who would you work for?
[06:30] <Polygon89> install mplayer rylasain
[06:30] <daveyj> yeah in comp repair
[06:30] <nomasteryoda> david_, daveyj dang tab completion... dd is the command i meant
[06:30] <deema> where is Tomboy?
[06:30] <daveyj> whoever would hire me? lol
[06:30] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: 90% positive ;)
[06:30] <st00ner> rylasasin: mozilla-mplayer
[06:30] <sivik> Super: why without apt-get, don't you have apt-get
[06:30] <gogeta> you shold be able to reinstall it threw wget and dpkg
[06:30] <Super> i need to download the package with wget, right?
[06:30] <sivik> Super: no
[06:30] <gogeta> yea
[06:30] <Polygon89> and even then it cant play .wav files.... i get that problem too
[06:30] <Super> it does not work
[06:30] <Animortis> Can anyone give me a command line command to go to runlevel 3 in Edgy? (Telinit 3 doesn't do it)
[06:30] <gogeta> ?
[06:30] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, ok installing now, im holding you personally responsible if it doesn't work :P
[06:30] <c|int> how do you save on a vi?
[06:31] <sivik> Super: ok, go get the source (tar.gz) and compile it manuelly
[06:31] <rwscold> polygon i dont know but i do know u can upgrade from the alternatee cd and the torrent downloads very fast
[06:31] <gogeta> you need to reinstall dc++
[06:31] <c|int> sorry, I just need to be reading all my books I got, which I do from time to time :)
[06:31] <st00ner> Has anyone had issues which linux-generic hanging at wating for root............... Is there less hardware support in linux-generic than the standard EFT kernel? right now i resorted to using VESA on the old 2.6.15 k7 kernel for SMP because genric wont boot
[06:31] <c|int> then I really can offer alot of help to the ubuntu community, also I work with PC-BSD , and help users so :-)
[06:31] <tnnc> sivik said the package not available maybe by other nane
[06:31] <Polygon89> im not going to attempt a alternate cd as last time i tried that, i screwed up my partitions somehow...
[06:31] <sivik> tnnc: apt-cache search flash
[06:32] <Polygon89> so... anyone know any good west coast usa mirrors for edgy?
[06:32] <Polygon89> that possibly have download speeds greater than 20-30 kb/s?
[06:32] <sivik> Polygon89, their all slow, its cause everyone is downloading so their full
[06:32] <nomasteryoda> Polygon89, use the torrents
[06:32] <Flannel> Polygon89: use torrents
[06:32] <nomasteryoda> very fast
[06:32] <Polygon89> i know that
[06:32] <Super> ok, sivic and gogeta. Thank you. I will look for the packages now and give it a trt
[06:32] <Polygon89> but since its not letting me
[06:32] <gogeta> man i forgot what package that is
[06:32] <nomasteryoda> i'll have the iso in about 30 min
[06:32] <Polygon89> install it using live cd without formatting
[06:32] <rylasasin> how do I get mozilla-mplayer?
[06:32] <Super> try. hopefully i do not need many
[06:32] <Super> bye
[06:32] <Polygon89> i need to upgrade while keeping everything
[06:32] <nomasteryoda> ic
[06:32] <st00ner> rylasasin: add all the repositories and sudo apt-get mozilla-player
[06:32] <c|int> nm.. figuring out issue on my own hee :D
[06:32] <sivik> rylasasin, do a search on apt-cache
[06:33] <rwscold> polygon why dont u want to format the root partition? sionce u are full installing edgy.....
[06:33] <Animortis> Does anyone know yet how to go to run level 3 in Edgy?
[06:33] <st00ner> rylasasin: add all the repositories and sudo apt-get install mozilla-player *
[06:33] <sivik> tnnc: flashplayer-mozilla - Macromedia Flash Player
[06:33] <sivik> flashplugin-nonfree - Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer
[06:33] <Polygon89> yeah i didnt have that checked
[06:33] <c|int> who needs help with edgy?
[06:33] <Polygon89> but even with it checked it does not install
[06:33] <rwscold> i see
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> Polygon89, might want to try using http://ftp.oregonstate.edu/pubs/ubuntu/releases
[06:33] <Polygon89> or says no root filesystem when i click forward
[06:33] <st00ner> i do :[ i have a very nasty bug
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> their server is usually good
[06:33] <Animortis> c|int, I could. Know how to hit runlevel 3?
[06:33] <Flannel> Polygon89: You can grab the alternate CD, and upgrade that way, via update-manager with apt-cdrom
[06:33] <Polygon89> ill try that if this does not work nomanster
[06:33] <deema> where is Tomboy?
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> k
[06:33] <c|int> of course
[06:33] <tnnc> sivik i dont see that name in there
[06:33] <st00ner> Has anyone had issues which linux-generic hanging at wating for root............... Is there less hardware support in linux-generic than the standard EFT kernel? right now i resorted to using VESA on the old 2.6.15 k7 kernel for SMP because genric wont boot
[06:34] <tnnc> sivik ok
[06:34] <c|int> I'm gettin ready to , install fluxbox.. and maybe enlightenment
[06:34] <Toma-> eeep, im running out of space on my dist-upgrade!
[06:34] <gogeta> og giblic
[06:34] <gogeta> lol
[06:34] <Madpilot> deema, Applications->Accessories->Tomboy Notes, I think
[06:34] <sivik> tnnc: do you have a multiverse repo in your sources.list
[06:34] <mista> are there nforce drivers for ubuntu?
[06:34] <sivik> mista, yes
[06:34] <nomasteryoda> but the whole internet will be on 2400 baud rate by noon on 27th.. due to all Ubuntu downloads
[06:34] <sivik> !nvidia
[06:34] <c|int> I"m just busy fixing a vmware install, that went bad, but I know the problem now
[06:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:34] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:34] <sivik> mista: try that howto
[06:34] <Polygon89> does root have to be installed on a primary partiton? cause that is the only thing i can figure out on why its not working
[06:34] <c|int> I"ll help you with nvidia,
[06:34] <sivik> Polygon89, yes
[06:34] <deema> Madpilot, not there
[06:34] <Polygon89> then how the hell did i install dapper to a logical partiton?
[06:34] <rwscold> ha yes poly
[06:34] <Nem|ltop> livecd is SLOWWW
[06:34] <mista> i dont want video card drivers i would like nforce drivers
[06:34] <Madpilot> deema, that's where it is on mine, but I'm still running Dapper
[06:34] <collin> I installed edgy today and now emacs has a bunch of squares, instead of text. Can some one please help me?
[06:34] <c|int> or anyone... thats what I have anyways for my workstation, and laptop has, the intel mobile.. so.. I am going check into a new system, with AMD and ATI
[06:35] <c|int> who knows
[06:35] <sivik> mista: which drivers
[06:35] <st00ner> mista: i have nForce 4 and all the hardware works
[06:35] <Animortis> *sigh* If anyone's trying how to get to runlevel 3, let me know so I can stop spamming...
[06:35] <tnnc> sivk i think i have it
[06:35] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, its sticking at 42%...
[06:35] <c|int> going to check into pci express for video :)
[06:35] <mista> nForce 4
[06:35] <sivik> c|int, ati & linux = crap
[06:35] <sivik> mista: what drivers?
[06:35] <c|int> ah
[06:35] <c|int> thanks for the tip
[06:35] <MistaED> mista: nforce drivers should be built into the kernel afaik, unless you want to manually install them for whatever purpose
[06:35] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, the drive doesn't seem to be spinning up or anything
[06:35] <rylasasin> when I try to install mozilla mplayer, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28601/
[06:35] <c|int> IT engineer here, sivik
[06:35] <mista> SATA and sound drivers
[06:35] <c|int> good lookin out
[06:36] <sivik> c|int, so, the lack of support for open source with ati doesn't work too well
[06:36] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: what speed did you burn the CD?
[06:36] <mista> i have sound but would like ,to use all 4 speakers
[06:36] <st00ner> Has anyone had issues which linux-generic hanging at wating for root............... Is there less hardware support in linux-generic than the standard EFT kernel? right now i resorted to using VESA on the old 2.6.15 k7 kernel for SMP because genric wont boot
[06:36] <c|int> i see
[06:36] <MistaED> mista: yes they're built in
[06:36] <nomasteryoda> c|int, i have the intel native card on my dell and beryl rocks ... even with only 8mb video ram
[06:36] <Magilla> anyone know if you can sync a Toshiba PocketPC in Ubuntu?
[06:36] <Nem|ltop> like 48x
[06:36] <sivik> mista, i already have sata and sound drivers for my nvidia mobo in linux
[06:36] <david_> nomasteryoda, wont that do an image tho?
[06:36] <Nem|ltop> i've installed several times and checksummed the cd and its fine
[06:36] <mista> cant mount my raid 0 drive?
[06:36] <BrettHatley> nomasteryoda, what is beryl
[06:36] <c|int> thats nice to know.. I do'nt care for dell though :-)
[06:36] <BrettHatley> ?
[06:36] <Nem|ltop> is it safe to eject and then put it back in?
[06:36] <MistaED> mista: ok, that might just take some tweaking in alsa/audio mixer *shrugs*
[06:36] <J-_> is there a utility like the Dictionary utility but a thesaurus?
[06:36] <sivik> someone needs to kick st00ner, he keeps asking the same bloody question
[06:36] <nomasteryoda> david_, you can do disk to disk copy with dd
[06:36] <nomasteryoda> man dd
[06:36] <mista> wht about RAID Drive
[06:36] <sivik> !thesaurus
[06:36] <c|int> but they are making rapid improvements.. and users putting linux systems, on dell... more the smiles :)
[06:36] <Polygon89> sivik, thats cause no one is answering him
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thesaurus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <st00ner> sivik: if someone said, no, then i woudl stop
[06:37] <c|int> who needs help Polygon89
[06:37] <sivik> Polygon89, yes we know
[06:37] <Animortis> Does anyone know yet how to go to run level 3 in Edgy?
[06:37] <sivik> st00ner, no
[06:37] <st00ner> ok
[06:37] <st00ner> ty
[06:37] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, the bar had disappeared after i have moved the window
[06:37] <sivik> Animortis, the same way you did it in dapper
[06:37] <tnnc> sivik can you give me the line i am looking for in sources/list
[06:37] <nomasteryoda> david_, or even disk across network to another partition on anothe rcomputer
[06:37] <BrettHatley> Animortis, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:37] <Polygon89> i guess ill just do a fresh reinstall cause somehow i installed dapper to a logical partiton O.o
[06:37] <tnnc> sivik maybe i need to add it manually
[06:37] <sivik> tnnc: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse and then deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse
[06:37] <nomasteryoda> BrettHatley, beryl is the new "aero" like effects for xorg
[06:37] <c|int> yeah, edit the init scripts
[06:37] <nomasteryoda> BrettHatley, but much nicer
[06:37] <rwscold> polygon sorry i couldnt help more
[06:37] <Frederick> Folks can I stop the updating process to edgy while ubuntu still fetching packages and continue it tommorow? Please I need to know =/
[06:37] <MistaED> mista: not sure about RAID, are you sure it's a hardware raid or just software? i think windows raids are incompatible with linux but don't quote me on that
[06:37] <david_> nomasteryoda, but, will that output to a folder, i thought dd just outputed a copy to a partition. I don't really have an extra partition
[06:37] <sivik> tnnc: yes, add it to the sources.list file by hand
[06:38] <BrettHatley> nomasteryoda, how does one go about getting such a thing?
[06:38] <rylasasin> when I try to install mozilla mplayer, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28601/
[06:38] <Animortis> BrettHatley, thanks
[06:38] <deema> how come I can't find Tomboy in Edgy?
[06:38] <sivik> Frederick, probably not
[06:38] <rwscold> FREd I donbt think so
[06:38] <c|int> who here, really doesn't care for xgl..
[06:38] <Hikaru79> Hi; when trying to install Edgy from the desktop CD, it always hangs at 34% of "Copying Files". I have tried it using two different CD Drives, and I *have* run the "Check CD for defects" scan, and it came out fine; is htis a known problem?
[06:38] <gogeta> compat-libstdc++
[06:38] <Polygon89> if only the packagae download through synaptic were as fast as bittorent
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> BrettHatley, if you have the hardware, Edgy has it
[06:38] <gogeta> thats what you need
[06:38] <Frederick> sivik, rwscold thanks a lot.
[06:38] <gogeta> super
[06:38] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, what should i do
[06:38] <sivik> Frederick, yw
[06:38] <c|int> I like the layer without. to me it soaks up the resources, so :-)
[06:38] <BrettHatley> nomasteryoda, is edgy stable yet?
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> !tell BrettHatley about beryl
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> BrettHatley, it is released today
[06:38] <david_> nomasteryoda, actually maybe outputing to an image woudl be ok
[06:38] <MistaED> deema: right-click the gnome-panel and add it in that way
[06:38] <BrettHatley> wow, nice.
[06:38] <Polygon89> anyway thanks again all
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> and very stable imho
[06:38] <rwscold> good luck poly
[06:39] <BrettHatley> nomasteryoda, I'll go check that out
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> k
[06:39] <J-_> wow it's rockin in here tonight -.-
[06:39] <david_> BrettHatley I'm running it here, everything going perfectly
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> david_, i would recommend it...
[06:39] <sivik> what is Tomboy?
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> the dd it back
[06:39] <sivik> BrettHatley, yes
[06:39] <BrettHatley> david_, I wonder if itll be better/worse than fedora
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> you can do as iso and mount even
[06:39] <sivik> BrettHatley, its better, FC sucks
[06:39] <c|int> guys, I just want to remove a directory..   /etc/vmware/
[06:39] <fredl> hi, I'm trying to use SSH login with a key I generated but it doesn't work as root.
[06:39] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: moved the window?
[06:39] <Terinjokes> hey, i'm having a small little problem when it comes to my boot partition on PPC. I need to get yaboot one it, i can see it from macosx, can i do it from here?
[06:39] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, i dragged the window around
[06:39] <c|int> rm -rf?
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> "virtually mounted that is david_
[06:39] <sivik> c|int, sudo rm /etc/vmware -R
[06:39] <Nem|ltop> drug*?
[06:39] <david_> nomasteryoda, heh, I've never tried fedora actually, alwayse been ubuntu
[06:39] <BrettHatley> sivik, I dunno, fc6 is working well over here on the spare box
[06:40] <c|int> oh oikay.. missed the -R
[06:40] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, i can't eject the disc with the button either
[06:40] <c|int> thanks sivik :)
[06:40] <sivik> BrettHatley, i still don't like it
[06:40] <sivik> c|int, yw
[06:40] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  can any one help me figure out a WEP issue, and how to upgrade to 6.06?
[06:40] <nomasteryoda> david_, i hear selection of packages is much nicer here
[06:40] <c|int> cleaing up an install that went bad :P
[06:40] <nomasteryoda> fedora = deadhat
[06:40] <nomasteryoda> sorry
[06:40] <J-_> is there a utility like the Dictionary utility but a Thesaurus?
[06:40] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: so... you were using the DEsktop CD, not the alternateCD.  I don't know, there might be issues with the liveCD.
[06:40] <c|int> yeah, Fedora needs to be seriously reversed around
[06:40] <david_> nomasteryoda ok, in that case, if I output to an image, what type of format is that? .iso?
[06:40] <sivik> Jeeves_Moss, uh, to upgrade to 6.06, change all the listings in sources.list from breezy to dapper and then run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:40] <Zer0Ry0k0> Okay, I see the "View & Edit Actions" button under "Download Actions", but I can't figure out how to add a filetype to the list, it will only let me edit ones already in the list
[06:40] <c|int> 6 I hear has alot of changes, but they should focus on a powerhouse system
[06:40] <sivik> Jeeves_Moss, and then you need to change dapper to edgy and upgrade to edgy
[06:41] <nomasteryoda> david_, something you could burn to a cd for example
[06:41] <Nem|ltop> Flannel why would i be using the alternate cd
[06:41] <c|int> Jeeves_Moss: , you want my repositories?
[06:41] <BrettHatley> well, Ill let you know how that turns out
[06:41] <rwscold> the live cd wont work for i believe it is due to my gfx card but it wont let me go to a command prompt either i have heard lots of ppl having issues with the live cd
[06:41] <nomasteryoda> david_, just sec
[06:41] <Jeeves_Moss> sivik:  is it simple to do?
[06:41] <rylasasin> when I try to mark mozilla mplayer for install, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28601/
[06:41] <david_> nomasteryoda: wait, I must have missed something there..
[06:41] <sivik> Jeeves_Moss, yes
[06:41] <david_> nomasteryoda: k
[06:41] <mista> trying to mount my raid 0 sata drive just will not mount!!!!
[06:41] <collin> I installed edgy today and now emacs has a bunch of boxes, instead of text. Can some one please help me?
[06:41] <rwscold> collin what language do u have it set to?
[06:42] <c|int> hey sivik
[06:42] <savman> is edgy working fine ? cant install from cd nor liveCD connect to net !
[06:42] <Zer0Ry0k0> where is KTorrent installed?  /ect ?
[06:42] <collin> rwscold: I don't know, it worked in dapper
[06:42] <collin> i'll check
[06:42] <sivik> c|int, yes
[06:42] <fredl> If I ssh-keygen -t dsa, then put ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub into root's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 on the remote login, I should be able to login with the SSH key right?
[06:42] <c|int> I'm teaching myself , more into deph however ya know..  hacking the file system, knowing the entire structure.. what each purpose is for
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> david_, look here... http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Dd ... excellent howto
[06:42] <sivik> Zer0Ry0k0, check /lib/bin
[06:42] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: because that's what you said when I asked ;)  not super important, at any rate.
[06:42] <Zer0Ry0k0> k, thanks
[06:42] <Jeeves_Moss> sicik:  I'm going to reboot into Ubuntu, and we'll see if we can do it from there.
[06:42] <sivik> c|int, ok, and, what does that have to do with me
[06:42] <fredl> the problem is it works for normal users but not for root on Ubuntu.
[06:42] <c|int> using linux distro.s since 2004, but I was busy alot with windows hacking. software etc. too.. and securing environments, then I started pusshing self more
[06:43] <c|int> appreciate the help :)
[06:43] <sivik> c|int, yw
[06:43] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, if you haven't learned by now, i have no idea what im doing :/
[06:43] <Prez__> someone running Edgy on ThinkPad X32 or machine with ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY?  Dapper used to freeze up randomly
[06:43] <c|int> cat is really cool , hee he
[06:43] <c|int> really nice to just do.. cat /proc/cpuinfo  :P
[06:43] <sivik> Prez__, i have never gotten my 200m working in dapper nor edgy
[06:43] <Rav|strangler> your video card?
[06:43] <Zer0Ry0k0> ehh.... I don't see /lib/bin just /lib.....
[06:44] <sivik> Zer0Ry0k0, sorry, is /usr/bin
[06:44] <Rav|strangler> sivik your ati200m?
[06:44] <Prez__> sivik, guess i will have to change laptop, recommendations for a well supported video card?
[06:44] <Zer0Ry0k0> ah, thanks
[06:44] <sivik> Rav|strangler, yes
[06:44] <Shadow_mil> I can't find package xml2-dev
[06:44] <sivik> Prez__, nvidia video card
[06:44] <savman> anyone.. the install CD tells me use root file system. when i use / it sais no root system was used
[06:44] <Rav|strangler> I got mine working in my Gateway MX5435
[06:44] <sivik> Prez__, as long as it has nvidia, it should work nicely
[06:44] <collin> rwscold: I tried to customize options and it seg faulted
[06:44] <c|int> sivik: , you use nvidia ?
[06:44] <sivik> Rav|strangler, how?
[06:44] <nomasteryoda> oh, tip for people... nice stickers "powered by Ubuntu" for free from system76.com
[06:44] <sivik> c|int, i do on my desktop
[06:44] <Rav|strangler> let me get you the link
[06:45] <c|int> your workstation ? or desktop
[06:45] <Prez__> sivik, will have to see if there are thinkpads with nvidia, don't remember..
[06:45] <sivik> Rav|strangler, don't give me a howto, i have down it a long time
[06:45] <c|int> what size tower.. small, midrange, etc?
[06:45] <sivik> Prez__, well, you don't have to use a thinkpad
[06:45] <easytiger> why can i only play about 50% of wmv files?
[06:45] <sivik> c|int, i built it myself
[06:45] <Akuma_> where can i find info/docs about changing my screen resolution? i want to set it to 1400x1050. i tried adding a "display" subsection in xorg.conf, but that doesnt seem to work
[06:45] <c|int> same here
[06:45] <easytiger> the resta re just sound
[06:45] <sivik> easytiger, because all codecs aren't supported
[06:45] <c|int> I just had the motherboard assembled, and cpu.. added.. so it would be covered under warranty :)
[06:45] <Rav|strangler> sivik let me dcc you this file just let me know if you tried it before
 so tehres no fix for it?
[06:45] <c|int> you assembled eh :P
[06:45] <Shadow_mil> so is this channel for edgy now?
[06:45] <c|int> ;)
[06:45] <dankmiser> I need some help reinstalling all video codecs
[06:46] <david_> nomasteryoda: if I use compression like in the example from the link, will it still be easily possible to mount the image as a drive so that I can see the files without writing them back out to the hard drive?
[06:46] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: all supported ubuntu versions
[06:46] <rwscold> Shadow this channel will support all the ver
[06:46] <Prez__> sivik, i do, we only buy thinkpads at the office, plus, I like them :-)
[06:46] <sivik> just ftp to sivik.no-ip.org
[06:46] <sivik> Prez__, well, i don't buy intel so i can't help you there
[06:46] <rwscold> collin have u searched the forums and googled the issue?
[06:46] <mista> i have installed mplayer but each time i click on a new file it open a new mplayer how cani make i just use the one thats open
[06:46] <rylasasin> when I try to mark mozilla mplayer for install, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28601/
[06:47] <nomasteryoda> david_, you don't have to use the compression... just do it to iso filetype
[06:47] <nomasteryoda> hang on
[06:47] <sivik> Rav|strangler, ftp sivik.no-ip.org username guest, password guest
[06:47] <david_> nomasteryoda: thanks
[06:47] <collin> rwscold: i searched the forums, but I haven't googled it yet
[06:47] <c|int> he he... I could just take LinDVD off my mandriva 2007 powerPack, that was bought for me.. and hee.. convert to deb binary, then build for ubuntu :P
[06:47] <nomasteryoda> ok, i've got the iso downloaded... seeding
[06:47] <tnnc> sivik after i add those is there anything i should do
[06:47] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:47] <Flannel> rylasasin: you need to enable multiverse
[06:47] <c|int> but I Really didnt' much care for LinDVD .. ;(
[06:47] <nomasteryoda> took 30 min wow...
[06:47] <sivik> tnnc: save that file, exit, sudo apt-get update
[06:47] <sivik> and then run apt-cache search flash again
[06:47] <rylasasin> ok
[06:48] <sivik> Rav|strangler, are you going to send it to me?
[06:48] <Nem|ltop> ugh before i go to bed i need to either have bootable ubuntu or bootble windows again or i will have serious problems
[06:48] <c|int> sivik, what I Really want to get into.. is mounting iso images.. and then them being like virtual dvd/rom etc.. like alcohol in windows
[06:48] <rwscold> collin i really dont know what to tell u without seeing exactly whats goin on
[06:48] <Rav|strangler> yes i'm looking for it
[06:48] <sivik> c|int, go to wiki.ubuntu.com and look around for stuff about iso
[06:48] <c|int> Nem, I can send you.. Acronis OS Selector etc.
[06:48] <sivik> Rav|strangler, go ahead and upload to it
[06:48] <baumann> i like linux !
[06:48] <c|int> lol sivik, I'm just going read the books I got :-)
[06:48] <Rav|strangler> i'm smokin too so i'm kinda slow
[06:48] <sivik> c|int, ok
[06:48] <sivik> Rav|strangler, thats cool
[06:48] <nomasteryoda> david_, this has some good info too
[06:48] <c|int> rav. thats where I'm going be too , hee
[06:48] <nomasteryoda> http://linuxgazette.net/issue91/keates.html
[06:48] <Nem|ltop> okay hopefully i won't have to take you up on that though
[06:48] <sivik> Rav|strangler, how big?
[06:48] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: all I can suggest is try t e installer again
[06:49] <collin> rwscold: yeah, it's weird, all text is replaced with boxes that look like the outlines of cursors
[06:49] <shadok> does the switch from dapper to edgy is glitch-free ?
[06:49] <sivik> c|int, are you login into my compute?
[06:49] <sivik> shadok: yes, its called dist-upgrade and then you have to reinstall your video drivers
[06:49] <wiz> I need a bit of help getting ndiswrapper and my wifi going. The driver seems to be up and running ok, and iwlist wlan0 scanning detects the AP, but if I try to connect I get stuff like: received packet has bogus ESSID and it never gets dhcp, any help?
[06:49] <shadok> or should I better wait a few days ?
[06:49] <c|int> come again?
[06:49] <rwscold> maybe your fonts are screwed up maybe the language is something strange or something i dont know to be honest collin
[06:49] <sivik> wiz: did you enter a security key?
[06:49] <c|int> anyone here, into prizon break :P
[06:49] <shadok> sivik: jsute pullin the linux-restricted package ?
[06:49] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, doing so as we speak
[06:49] <c|int> =)
[06:49] <wiz> sivik: I have the wep off for now, until I get it working
[06:49] <tnnc> sivik ok i now see both of those files what one should i use?
[06:50] <sivik> shadok, what kind of card
[06:50] <rwscold> clint forget prison break its all about heroes now!
[06:50] <sivik> tnnc: flashplugin-nonfree
[06:50] <shadok> sivik: nvidia (legacy drivers)
[06:50] <Ash-Fox> Where do I define the LANG parameter globally?
[06:50] <c|int> he he
[06:50] <nkRush> is it worth installing an x64 system for my desktop or does it give more trouble than ordinary x86?
[06:50] <tnnc> sivik ok trying
[06:50] <c|int> nah.. its user prefs :)
[06:50] <sivik> shadok, just reinstall nvidia-glx-legacy and then run nvidia-glx-legacy enable
[06:50] <rwscold> i watch both
[06:50] <nomasteryoda> david_, also just this kind of command too... (dd if=/mnt/hda1/ of=/tmp/myimg1.iso)
[06:50] <rwscold> so i cant talk
[06:50] <Rav|strangler> sivik why wouldnt dapper work?
[06:50] <jdrake> Is it safe to cancel the distribution upgrade once it has entered the download phase?
[06:50] <c|int> just like some gentoo users would tell us. forget ubuntu.. its slow :-)
[06:50] <sivik> Rav|strangler, i have no bloody clue
[06:50] <Ash-Fox> nkRush, unless you have more than 4GB ram, you're better off in my opinion using plain x86
[06:50] <c|int> then what we sayt o them .. ;)
[06:50] <shadok> sivik: thx I do that now :)
[06:50] <c|int> free world :-)
[06:50] <gogeta> ubuntu slow?
[06:50] <rwscold> drake i did and my dapper is still up and running
[06:50] <sivik> i had a friend that said install gentoo takes like 3 days to install
[06:50] <nkRush> ok
[06:50] <Rav|strangler> did something different happen then the ealier version
[06:50] <wiz> sivik: any ideas?
[06:51] <nomasteryoda> david_, try it on say one folder, then mount or open the iso file in nautilus.. should work fine
[06:51] <rwscold> but i wont leave it like this for long
[06:51] <madewokherd> jdrake: I think it's ok while as long as it's not installing yet
[06:51] <sivik> wiz: what was the problem again
[06:51] <jdrake> good, my download rate is extremely slow :p
[06:51] <sivik> wiz: i'm doing way too many things at one
[06:51] <david_> nomasteryoda: what are the "if" and "of" for? also, Gparted won't start, is there a simple way to find out the hdanumber?
[06:51] <fredl> ok, let's try another approach. Does anybody here use ssh to remote login as root on their server?
[06:51] <sivik> jdrake, thats cause everyone is downloading
[06:51] <madewokherd> if not it won't do any permanent damage
[06:51] <shadok> sivik: I'm on gentoo here (ubuntu is for my dad) and it all depends on what you install and on your hardware
[06:51] <nomasteryoda> david_, if mean input file
[06:51] <morphish> Ash-Fox: ram size as determining factor to decide between amd64 or i686??
[06:51] <rwscold> drake i think some things will have been removed most likely but it should effect you if u plan on upgrading a different way
[06:51] <david_> nomasteryoda: ah, k
[06:51] <jdrake> Might be best to grab a dvd then
[06:51] <sivik> shadok, well, he said for his computer, it would take 3 days
[06:51] <nomasteryoda> and of means output file
[06:51] <gogeta> fast on my pc
[06:51] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:51] <nomasteryoda> simple
[06:51] <wiz> sivik: I got ndiswrapper setup and it seems to be ok, but when I try to connect I get stuff in dmesg like: "received packet has bogus ESSID" and it won't dhcp
[06:51] <shadok> sivik: it's possible
[06:51] <gogeta> in fact edgy is even faster the the older one
[06:52] <sivik> wiz: my wireless card has worked once and then it quits working
[06:52] <wiz> sivik: I'm a little far from the ap, but I get a full connection when in windows.
[06:52] <rwscold> drake the torrents are very fast u might want to dry and snatch an iso from there
[06:52] <c|int> crap
[06:52] <sivik> RedKrieg, are you uploading that file
[06:52] <sivik> wiz: what card?
[06:52] <david_> nomasteryoda: what about finding out what drives are currently plugged in? Is there something besides gparted? I don't need a full GUI anyway
[06:52] <Ash-Fox> morphish, it's been for me (on 64bit systems), since 64bit ubuntu has always given me problems in some way or form
[06:52] <J-_> found a thesaurus =D
[06:52] <CCmonster> hey guys
[06:52] <wiz> sivik: el cheapo airlink card, texas instr acx
[06:52] <Nem|ltop> ugh this GD thing is just messing with me now
[06:52] <Flannel> !es | Dark_Sith
[06:52] <ubotu> Dark_Sith: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:52] <Nem|ltop> stuck at 25%
[06:52] <CCmonster> Im curious about Ubuntu, but i was wondering what kind of bluetooth support is in Linux these days?
[06:53] <wiz> sivik: I've had it working with ndis before, but it's been a while and I don't remember if I had to do anything sepcial.
[06:53] <sivik> wiz: i have broadcom and it worked until i did any package upgrading in dapper
[06:53] <Ash-Fox> morphish, I also haven't seen any real performence differences when using a 64bit os or 32bit.
[06:53] <Nem|ltop> i wish i never would have attempted this
[06:53] <rwscold> !bluetooth
[06:53] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:53] <c|int> I wanted to hook in.. my other ethernet.. card.. even though I know.. vmware emulates a gigabit nic, its not really up to them throughputs.. only for local networks,  but I just remembered. I Don't have any extra category laying around. an dang itk, I can't wait til.. AT&T provides the customers with fiber, that will be by the year 2010
[06:53] <shadok> sivik: last question : is that normal the packages are not signed ?
[06:53] <sivik> shadok, yes
[06:53] <shadok> for edgy I mean
[06:53] <shadok> ok
[06:53] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, 25% cd drive is barely spinning
[06:53] <shadok> ty :)
[06:53] <tnnc> sivik seems that it didnt work got an error
[06:53] <sivik> tnnc: what error?
[06:53] <wiz> sivik: so I'm sol and stuck with windows?
[06:54] <rylasasin> #easyubuntu
[06:54] <mista> wht a good program to use my tv turner card,
[06:54] <rylasasin> er
[06:54] <rylasasin> haha forgot the join
[06:54] <c|int> wiz
[06:54] <sivik> wiz: i have no clue, never used ndiswrapper, someone else might know
[06:54] <sivik> mista: what card?
[06:54] <c|int> you can run windows inside linux. and its way better than a stand alone
[06:54] <rwscold> mista mythtv is known as one of the best suites for tv tuners
[06:54] <morphish> Ash-Fox: sorry to hear that your 64bit experience is not so great, encoding DV to mpeg4 or h264 for my family i am glad i have those extra 15-20% ;)
[06:54] <tzadikim> ok, so, im trying to install ubuntu...i boot from the cd fine, but when i tell it to install, it says it loads the kernel fine, then flashes an error message  that says it "cannot allocate resource region 3 of device" something with lots of 0's and :'s and then just freezes. any advice?
[06:54] <mikeymike-linux> whats a good pastebin
[06:54] <mista> hauppauge
[06:54] <sivik> !pastebin
[06:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:54] <mikeymike-linux> perhaps someone can help me here with some dependency issues
[06:54] <sivik> mista: good card
[06:54] <mikeymike-linux> thanks
[06:54] <wiz> c|int: how does that help linux not having internet?
[06:54] <mista> thanks
[06:54] <c|int> just because a user runs linux, or even unix, like SCO unixware, open unix.. FreeBSD, PCBSD, openbsd, mac, doesn't mean you can't use windows too
[06:54] <sivik> mikeymike-linux, sudo apt-get -f install
[06:55] <mista> was using it on media center but decide to move to linux
[06:55] <mikeymike-linux> what is that
[06:55] <c|int> you have to configure it
[06:55] <rwscold> mista search for MYthTv
[06:55] <rwscold> !mythtv
[06:55] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[06:55] <rwscold> haha
[06:55] <sivik> i have to figure out how to install mythtv and get it to work with my card
[06:55] <Ash-Fox> morphish, I use VLC for such things.. real time encoding really didn't seem any different. :P
[06:55] <tnnc> sivik saids: the swf is known to trigger bugs in the swfdec decoder playback is canneceled
[06:55] <wiz> c|int: that's very unhelpful, I have the wifi configured as much as I can find, but it still won't connect.
[06:55] <c|int> I see
[06:55] <glick> hey im thinking of making an isreali version of ubuntu, called jewbuntu? anyone wanna help?
[06:55] <c|int> I'll help you
[06:55] <mikeymike-linux> someone take a look at this and tell me how to figure out what versions i have.. i really dont think im out of date though i could be wrong.. perhaps its a silly issue http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28603/
[06:55] <philip_> so what's the new channel for feisty fawn?
[06:55] <mista> i have mplayer is there a plugin for that
[06:56] <c|int> I spent a long time, dealing with broadcom issues, m8
[06:56] <Flannel> philip_: it will be #ubuntu+1, but doesn't exist yet
[06:56] <Dark_Sith> Flannel, thanks very much, but i didn't a question xD
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce
[06:56] <glick> the first one will be called Racy Rabbie
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> cool
[06:56] <rwscold> mista not sure
[06:56] <wiz> c|int: its not a broadcam, its a crapp acx texas inst
[06:56] <sivik> tnnc: are you trying to play those videos or just running flash in FF
[06:56] <sivik> c|int, broadcom sucks
[06:56] <sivik> c|int, thats what i have
[06:56] <tnnc> sivik just running flash in FF
[06:56] <sivik> tnnc: thats how mine works
[06:56] <wiz> are there any wifi cards that just run out of the box?
[06:56] <c|int> yes I know that sivik
[06:56] <jdrake> Any ideas what the distribution upgrade process is called?
[06:56] <morphish> Ash-Fox: well i have not run a binary based distro in a few years, i have done the testing on a sourcebased distro, compiled for k8 no x86_64, there the difference was there when compared to the same box running 32bit install
[06:57] <Flannel> jdrake: update-manager
[06:57] <mikeymike-linux> anyone know why im having this issue? and how do i check myversions of glib and gtk+ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28603/
[06:57] <dabaR> mikeymike-linux: there is nothing shown there about what yuo have installed. just what you odn't have are you compiling something?
[06:57] <aardfox> Does anyone have a minute to help me with an installation tutorial for cedega?
[06:57] <tnnc> sivik but your shows it but i am getting nothing there
[06:57] <mikeymike-linux> dabaR, yes im compiling xmms-scrobbler-0.3.6.
[06:57] <sivik> hum, whats the url
[06:57] <valehru> Can anyone point me to the driver I need for a nvidia 6600 GT graphics card?
[06:57] <c|int> but yous ee, I"m dooing some testing with the wi-fi radar. and other things in the modules to take care of the interferance, as well I"m waiting on 802.11 n to be stable implemented and drivers :-) and full throughput 300 mbps etc :-)
[06:57] <sivik> valehru, try the howto
[06:57] <rwscold> aardfox
[06:57] <sivik> !nvidia
[06:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:57] <mikeymike-linux> how do i find out what versions i have of those supposedly missing toolkits and libraries?
[06:57] <BrettHatley> morphish, ill be going back to gentoo when theres proper core2dup supports
[06:57] <rwscold> aardfox there are many tutorials on cedega
[06:57] <sivik> !tell valehru -> nvidia
[06:57] <valehru> thx sivik
[06:57] <rwscold> !cedega
[06:57] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[06:57] <tzadikim> can anyone help?
[06:57] <tnnc> sivik or do you mean you get that like?
[06:57] <mikeymike-linux> dabaR, how do i find out what versions i have of those supposedly missing toolkits and libraries?
[06:58] <sivik> tnnc: what video are you trying to watch
[06:58] <tnnc> sivik line
[06:58] <mikeymike-linux> i really dont think im underversioned
[06:58] <shadok> BrettHatley: it's kernel related imho
[06:58] <mista> btu dont u have to pay for Cedega
[06:58] <c|int> brb.. going to get a  mountain dew :P
[06:58] <mikeymike-linux> apt-get -f install didnt do anything i was already up to date basically
[06:58] <sivik> tnnc: ok, your trying to run a video in ff, correct
[06:58] <tnnc> sivik just on the best flash website
[06:58] <tzadikim> god bless mountain dew
[06:58] <shadok> mista: cvs is free
[06:58] <sivik> tnnc: and that is?
[06:58] <BrettHatley> shadok, in my case its gcc related, but thats just splitting hairs
[06:58] <sivik> mikeymike-linux, then where are you getting the depenancy errors
[06:58] <wiz> sivik: would it make sense for the signal to be stronger in windows than linux, and not good enough for a connection in *nix?
[06:58] <mikeymike-linux> i had to hack the source for that confiigure to see why it wasn't registering my xmms
[06:58] <tzadikim> it takes the edge off me completely failing to get this installationthing together
[06:58] <kitche> morphish: I didn't cathc on 3what you said eariler now I understand :)
[06:58] <sivik> wiz: probably not
[06:58] <shadok> BrettHatley: what sort of problem ?
[06:58] <morphish> BrettHatley: in the meantime, check out sourcemage, it works quite well (and i do not know what core2dup is)
[06:58] <osama> hi
[06:58] <wiz> sivik: that's what I figured
[06:58] <c|int> wiz, yes
[06:58] <tnnc> sivik not an whole video just when i go to an webpage it has flash on it
[06:58] <J-_> Cool, there's a newt called an eft =D
[06:58] <valehru> sivik, is there an updated version for dapper?
[06:58] <shadok> BrettHatley: hard time choosing CFLAGS ?
[06:59] <c|int> but if you work with wi-fi radar , its alot better
[06:59] <morphish> kitche: i am hurt, forgot me already?
[06:59] <valehru> sivik, sorry, I meant for edgy
[06:59] <sivik> valehru, it works the same
[06:59] <BrettHatley> morphish, its "typo" for core2duo
[06:59] <sivik> valehru, i used it today and it worked, i'm on a 6600
[06:59] <c|int> has to do , with range of access point..  wiz
[06:59] <dabaR> mikeymike-linux: aptitude search libglib2.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev
[06:59] <s_> !commands
[06:59] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:59] <valehru> sivik, ok, thanks
[06:59] <Ademan_> when you install most programs through synaptic, a launcher gets created in the menu bar, is there a place where launchers are stored? (like a universal place for all possible launchers?)
[06:59] <mikeymike-linux> sivik, sometimes its dumb reasons such as the one i had before this .... it said i didnt have xmms version blah blah but i had a superceded version its just that it couldn't find the xmms-configure file because xmms was installed by a package instead of compiled so the file did not exist..... but it gave me a stupid erroneous message saying my version wasn't up to date.... i installed the xmms devel and it worked fine
[06:59] <wiz> So does anyone have any idea how fix wifi errors like: "received packet has bogus ESSID" and not being able to connect?
[06:59] <morphish> BrettHatley: what kind of support do you need that gentoo has to provide?
[06:59] <osama> edgy: aptitude dist-update says: Leave the followinf dependencies unresolved: nautilus recommends fam Score=-1838 Accept? (Y/N/Q/?) ..... what shall I do ??
[06:59] <mikeymike-linux> dabaR, doing that now
[07:00] <c|int> wiz.. can ya wait til I get back :-)
[07:00] <Flannel> Ademan_: just edit the menu using alacarte
[07:00] <BrettHatley> morphish, the ability to install in 64 bit mode
[07:00] <wiz> c|int: how long?
[07:00] <dredhammer> does anyone know where in Edgy to edit the Application Menu?
[07:00] <s_> I have a little question: Why I'm downloading edgy programs fromrepositories so slow compared to dapper reposit?
[07:00] <BrettHatley> morphish, install and then emerge -e world
[07:00] <c|int> or if you don't have the patience, I understand, its free help anyways :-)
[07:00] <sivik> osama, you might want to install the erros first
[07:00] <mikeymike-linux> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28604/
[07:00] <morphish> Ash-Fox: i wonder if the difference comes from x86_64 vs K8, since K8 includes all the SIMD optimizations whereas x86_64 shouldn't touch them (*IIRC*)
[07:00] <shadok> BrettHatley: doesn't amd64 profile works with c2d ?
[07:00] <sivik> s_, because everyone is using it
[07:00] <Ademan_> Flannel: i know i'm trying to track something down though
[07:00] <CCmonster> ok so under bluetooh on the Ubuntu site it says if tehre is an HCI version it should work with Linux
[07:00] <wiz> c|int: give me a time frame and I'll be around
[07:00] <CCmonster> but my mouse and keyboard dont, only the tranciever(dongle)
[07:00] <dabaR> beep-media-player-scrobbler
[07:00] <aardfox> Could anyone help me out with the CVS Cedega installation tutorial? It's at http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO%20Cedega%20CVS
[07:00] <sivik> shadok, should as long as the c2d are 64-bit
[07:00] <s_> 4sivik: Oh ok thanks
[07:00] <osama> fam? what's fam? do i install the dapper version?
[07:00] <Ash-Fox> morphish, I've never touched K8
[07:00] <Suspe> Arg, can someone help me real quick
[07:00] <Flannel> s_: because all the repositories are slow, because everyone is downloading edgy
[07:00] <dabaR> !beep-media-player-scrobbler
[07:00] <CCmonster> so is that ok, because i only need the dongle to be HCI ready?
[07:00] <c|int> hey  sivik, that took care of vmware install.. :-)
[07:00] <ubotu> beep-media-player-scrobbler: Beep plugin to send track information to audioscrobbler. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.8.1-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 116 kB
[07:00] <shadok> sivik: that's what I think too
[07:00] <dabaR> mikeymike-linux: why not just use that?
[07:00] <sivik> c|int, ok
[07:01] <mikeymike-linux> dabaR, why not use what
[07:01] <c|int> thanks much ;),.. i forgot that command to remove dir :P.. shame on me
[07:01] <Flannel> Ademan_: what do you mean? a program?
[07:01] <Suspe> There seems to be an error in the installation procedure for edgy eft which is not allowing it to continue
[07:01] <sivik> shadok, i don't buy intel so i wouldn't know
[07:01] <shadok> sivik: huhu
[07:01] <dabaR> mikeymike-linux: beep-media-player-scrobbler
[07:01] <osama> sivik: fam? what's fam? do i install the dapper version?
[07:01] <morphish> Ash-Fox: i mean how are the binaries/the system compiled, if generic x86_64 the hit you see could be explained by that probably
[07:01] <bug_> quick question--does anyone know of a program that will play a dvd from a directory?
[07:01] <sivik> shadok, huhu?
[07:01] <mikeymike-linux> dabaR, because xmms is what i want to use
[07:01] <shadok> sivik: a laugh :)
[07:01] <dabaR> mikeymike-linux: I do not know what the bmp thing is it wants on your error.
[07:01] <sivik> osama, it doesn't matter, just install it, it should fix the issue
[07:01] <sivik> shadok, sorry
[07:01] <c|int> mikeymike, do you need help with that eh?
[07:01] <mikeymike-linux> dabaR, its a program
[07:01] <tzadikim> anyone? installation freeze after receiving the message: "[4294671.433000]  PCI: Cannot allocate resource of region 3 of device 0000:00:00.0"
[07:01] <shadok> sivik: np
[07:01] <mikeymike-linux> c|int, yeah
[07:01] <dabaR> mikeymike-linux: it could be beep-media-player
[07:01] <sivik> shadok, i'm not a fan of intel
[07:01] <mikeymike-linux> dabaR, i have beep installed as well
[07:02] <mikeymike-linux> thats why i posted that error
[07:02] <mikeymike-linux> because its erroneous
[07:02] <nnonix> Are there any known issues with Edgy and Atheros Wireless Controllers? My wifi which worked in both Breezy and Dapper is shot in Edgy.
[07:02] <c|int> what linux distro you using
[07:02] <mikeymike-linux> ubuntu
[07:02] <Suspe> Can anyonesomeone help me please :s
[07:02] <Suspe> er
[07:02] <mikeymike-linux> naturally
[07:02] <sivik> c|int, wjp are upi ta;lomg tp
[07:02] <morphish> BrettHatley: x86_64 or em64t do not work on 64bit core2duos?
[07:02] <c|int> build?
[07:02] <mikeymike-linux> dapper
[07:02] <c|int> okay. so just open a terminal., and type.. sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:02] <shadok> sivik: i'm a fan of my wallet, I just take the best ratio price/performance when I need a cpu :)
[07:02] <Ademan_> Flannel: a package failed to make an entry in the menu bar, and i was wondering if there was maybe a directory that held ALL launchers
[07:02] <BrettHatley> morphish, no.
[07:02] <mikeymike-linux> c|int, my xmms is up to date?
[07:02] <wiz> c|int: ?
[07:02] <Ash-Fox> morphish, honestly, I can't stand waiting for AROS to compile when I'm working on, I'm really going to stay away from compiling a linux distro. It's far too annoying when you get tiny security fixes in xorg, openoffice, kde and so on.
[07:02] <c|int> or if you want to add the extra repositories, and get all the plugins.. visualizations.. do that too
[07:02] <dabaR> mikeymike-linux: no, you are missing -dev packages, but not sure which one for bmp. try just the beep-media-player package.
[07:02] <sivik> shadok, yes, the price on the amd's are cheaper for the compatible cards
[07:02] <mikeymike-linux> i am not missing packages
[07:02] <BrettHatley> morphish, says it cant compile C binaries
[07:03] <sivik> shadok, they also run cooler and with less power
[07:03] <mikeymike-linux> oh wait
[07:03] <mikeymike-linux> yeah
[07:03] <dabaR> mikeymike-linux: don't argue...try installing and watch the error disappear
[07:03] <c|int> what problem are you having
[07:03] <mikeymike-linux> i might be missing a dev package for bmp
[07:03] <bug_> same performance at lower speeds, as wlel..
[07:03] <mikeymike-linux> dabaR, yeah you might be right i didnt mean to argue
[07:03] <shadok> sivik: yep but c2d are performances monsters :)
[07:03] <Flannel> Ademan_: all the programs?  They're in /usr/bin
[07:03] <sivik> shadok, only in like two areas
[07:03] <mikeymike-linux> ok i'll try that real fast and let you know
[07:03] <c|int> you can check too.. sudo apt-get -f install
[07:03] <sivik> shadok, like high end gaming and thats about it
[07:03] <c|int> brb
[07:03] <shadok> sivik: if i had to buy today i would go for a c2d, but I actually own anX2
[07:03] <mikeymike-linux> c|int, nothing unusual from that command
[07:03] <c|int> MD time
[07:03] <mikeymike-linux> everything is up to date
[07:04] <sivik> shadok, screw intel, they run hot and take more power
[07:04] <BrettHatley> love it
[07:04] <morphish> BrettHatley: ick, i never looked at those cpus, surprising result though
[07:04] <c|int> anyone here, want to work in small group, not so many people that overwhelmed.. and specifici, and other issues, lets team up.. let me know..
[07:04] <shadok> sivik: that doesn't bother me :)
[07:04] <sivik> BrettHatley, good for you, not a fan of intel, have all kinds of problems, don't like systems that run warm, or take alot of power
[07:04] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[07:04] <BrettHatley> morphish, basically theres no -march=conroe and im screwed until then
[07:04] <c|int> sivik, perhaps you would be interested ;)
[07:04] <sivik> actually, i'm fixing to go to bed
[07:04] <mikeymike-linux> ah i hate compiling from source
[07:04] <sivik> its like midnight at my house
[07:04] <sivik> mikeymike-linux, then don't
[07:04] <BrettHatley> sivik, im very proud of you.
[07:04] <tzadikim> yeah is there any other chat room i can go to for help with this stuff? maybe my messages arent even getting through
[07:04] <morphish> Ash-Fox: is it trivial to get a source package and compile certain select applications yourself (media apps mostly) (for other stuff 64bit apps might just be bigger and load slower to be honest)
[07:05] <sivik> tzadikim, whats the problem
[07:05] <Suspe> dabaR do you think you could help me with a problem I'm encountering in the edgy eft install? :x
[07:05] <mikeymike-linux> ok i hav ea problem... i just tried to mark the bmp devel package for install
[07:05] <shadok> BrettHatley: have a look here http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#Intel_Core_2_Solo.2FDuo_.28Allendale.2C_Conroe.2C_Merom.29
[07:05] <Ash-Fox> morphish, it is. It just takes too long to compile
[07:05] <dabaR> Suspe: what is the problem?
[07:05] <morphish> BrettHatley: i meant stick to a generic -march that works, and -e world once gcc catches up
[07:05] <c|int> sivik,, talking about later, whenvever bud :)
[07:05] <mikeymike-linux> it says there is an unresolveable depend.
[07:05] <HUADPE> Hi, Does anyone know where there the gui option to actually reset a network connection went in Edgy?
[07:05] <mikeymike-linux> depends: libgtk2.0-dev but it is not going ot be installed
[07:05] <dabaR> Suspe: i dont know til you tell me that
[07:05] <BrettHatley> shadok, I do. I check that website EVERY day looking for progress :)
[07:05] <Suspe> dabaR: http://old.jesterpm.net/pastebin/2776461566/61953
[07:05] <mikeymike-linux> what does that mean?
[07:05] <sivik> HUADPE, use network-admin
[07:05] <shadok> BrettHatley: doesn't nocona works ?
[07:05] <mikeymike-linux> unresolveable dependency
[07:05] <morphish> Ash-Fox: things like transcode compile pretty quick, openoffice i rather grab a 32bit binary and run that on my amd64 ;P
[07:05] <mikeymike-linux> ugh
[07:05] <sivik> pm c|int
[07:06] <dabaR> HUADPE: system>admin>networking
[07:06] <tzadikim> sivk: installation freeze after receiving the message: "[4294671.433000]  PCI: Cannot allocate resource of region 3 of device 0000:00:00.0"
[07:06] <Suspe> dabaR: I don't know, the installation is half complete and a lot of stuff is messing up and will continue to until I finish it I guess
[07:06] <BrettHatley> morphish, -march=nococa
[07:06] <sivik> tzadikim, did you try googling that
[07:06] <BrettHatley> sorry nocona
[07:06] <tnnc> sivik now it crashes my FF
[07:06] <umTTumT> wow;
[07:06] <dabaR> mikeymike-linux: did you paste the error to pastebin?
[07:06] <mikeymike-linux> bmpx-dev: Depends: libgtk2.0-dev but it is not going to be installed
[07:06] <BrettHatley> morphish, no, doesnt work - says cannot compile C binaries
[07:06] <Ash-Fox> morphish, yeah... but openoffice and so on is one of the things that can really do with optimisations..
[07:06] <sivik> tnnc: not sure
[07:06] <mikeymike-linux> where can i get that package?
[07:06] <mikeymike-linux> its not in my repos?
[07:06] <morphish> Ash-Fox: as long as i can easily choose to build something rather than use prebuild i will likely convert the amd64 to kubuntu this weekend (bad weather permitting)
[07:06] <umTTumT> !
[07:06] <umTTumT> T-IRc ScripT  #ubuntu  960 .
[07:07] <sivik> mikeymike-linux, do you have a multiverse repo?
[07:07] <dabaR> Suspe: no, I dont know how to fix that, I reinstalled cauuse of similar error
[07:07] <mikeymike-linux> ah my god
[07:07] <sivik> tnnc: i don't have any problems
[07:07] <Suspe> AAaarg
[07:07] <s_> Need help again please: I'm having this weird thing that like 2 of 5 times I start ubuntu resolution is 640x480 or something like that and I have set my resolution to 1024x768. Why?
[07:07] <wiz> c|int if this is going to be a while, I have other stuff I can do in the mean time, but if you could give me an idea, I'd like your help whenever its available.
[07:07] <Suspe> This is very irritating
[07:07] <mikeymike-linux> i found that package and tried to mark for install..... and now its saying IT HAS unresolveables..... 2 of them
[07:07] <tzadikim> sivk: yeah, i have, i just can't make a lot of sense of what i've found
[07:07] <mikeymike-linux> this is getting recursively frustrating :D
[07:07] <mikeymike-linux> sivik, i think i do?
[07:07] <sivik> s_, did you reinstall the video drivers and if its nvidia, you have to change nv to nvidia in the xorg.conf file
[07:07] <mikeymike-linux> sivik, how do i check?
[07:07] <Suspe> I spent 7 hours downloading Edgy Eft because it was going slow and now it wont work because of an error in the installation process and there is no way to fix it?
[07:07] <Nem|ltop> go installer go, do not fail me
[07:07] <Ash-Fox> morphish, alrighty =)
[07:07] <sivik> mikeymike-linux, go to /etc/apt and open gedit/vi sources.list
[07:07] <Phlosten2> s_: are you starting with your monitor switched off?
[07:07] <tnnc> sivik well i dont know either maybe i need to d/l edgy and do install instead of upgade i did
[07:07] <morphish> BrettHatley: Ash-Fox: thanks for your time, it is past my bedtime and i big you farewell (i almost get 5 hours of sleep if i leave now)
[07:08] <Suspe> Blah, thanks anyway
[07:08] <mikeymike-linux> libgtk2.0-dev:  Depends: libpango1.0-dev but it is not going to be installed  Depends: libcairo2-dev but it is not going to be installed
[07:08] <sivik> tnnc: maybe, but i didn't have a problem
[07:08] <morphish> s/big/bid/
[07:08] <dabaR> Suspe: no, maybe there is a way to fix, I just dont know it
[07:08] <mikeymike-linux> sivik, okay let me check
[07:08] <rawrness> how do i get my media working in edgy off a clean install?
[07:08] <s_> No actually, I turn it on as soon as i turn on the pc
[07:08] <BrettHatley> morphish, good evening
[07:08] <dabaR> !media
[07:08] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:08] <tnnc> sivik yes but you had beta already in and  maybe that was ok
[07:08] <sivik> mikeymike-linux, if not, add deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse and then the deb-src
[07:08] <dabaR> !codecs
[07:08] <sivik> tnnc: maybe
[07:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:08] <jdrake> Is there any convenient tool to go over a tree of how much each dir is taking up without having to go through the HUGE list that du would give me?
[07:08] <shadok> BrettHatley: have you tried with the last gcc ?
[07:08] <dabaR> rawrness: see links, the restrictedformats one
[07:08] <sivik> jdrake, try ls -l
[07:09] <v1per> lol wtf... my cdrom drive wont open
[07:09] <mikeymike-linux> sivik, wait what
[07:09] <rawrness> damm this thing is laggy
[07:09] <shadok> jdrake: du -hs
[07:09] <mikeymike-linux> why is there a space
[07:09] <shadok> (something like that
[07:09] <mikeymike-linux> and edgy?
[07:09] <shadok> )
[07:09] <aSt3raL> why is my 6.10 download going so slow?
[07:09] <mikeymike-linux> im dapper
[07:09] <rawrness> very laggy
[07:09] <v1per> is there a command to open the cdrom drive? lol
[07:09] <aardfox> How do i turn up my volume? I have it maxed out via the little volume meter, yet it is still much too quiet
[07:09] <dabaR> aSt3raL: cause others want to upgrade as well
[07:09] <shadok> aSt3raL: because yoiu ar not alone on servers :p
[07:09] <foof00> aSt3raL, why is the highway traffic so bad at 5 PM ?
[07:09] <sivik> mikeymike-linux, ok, then make it deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse
[07:09] <aSt3raL> :p
[07:09] <jdrake> shadok, I was hoping for a gui tool with a tree view
[07:09] <dabaR> aardfox: did you check alsamixer to see whether the master and pcm are up all the way?
[07:09] <Seb> v1per: eject
[07:09] <mikeymike-linux> sivik, can i do this in synaptic
[07:09] <Phlosten2> aardfox: double click the volume control to adjust other settings
[07:10] <shadok> jdrake: filelight is great
[07:10] <dabaR> aardfox: do what Phlosten2 said rather
[07:10] <sivik> mikeymike-linux, probably, i don't use synaptic, i do most of my stuff in konsole/eterm/xterm
[07:10] <foof00> jdrake, yeah filelight
[07:10] <v1per> Seb, thanks!!
[07:10] <Suspe> dabaR: I typed sudo apt-get dist-upgrade into the console and all seems to be going well now
[07:10] <aardfox> Where is the volume control? I only know how to adjust volume via hotkeys :(
[07:10] <mikeymike-linux> Sivik-sleep, i have dapper multiverse
[07:10] <foof00> jdrake, or the new System -> Disk Usage tool in Edgy
[07:10] <dabaR> aardfox: top right in gnome
[07:10] <Phlosten2> aardfox: little speaker icon
[07:11] <bwlang_> i've got this wierd behaviour going on with my wireless network card.   When I associate with an apple airport the network goes up and down every few seconds.  Everything is fine if I associate with another network. I don't know what to call this so i can google it...
[07:11] <dabaR> aardfox: there is also system>prefs>sound
[07:11] <mikeymike-linux> should i enable ALL my repos ?
[07:11] <mikeymike-linux> i have a coupel that are not enabled
[07:11] <mikeymike-linux> LTS BACKPORTS
[07:11] <foof00> mikeymike-linux, not backports!
[07:11] <orkid__> depends on the software you want.
[07:11] <mikeymike-linux> ok not backports
[07:11] <mikeymike-linux> :D
[07:11] <shadok> erf I did enable them :p
[07:11] <Phlosten2> why not backports?
[07:11] <mikeymike-linux> 2 backports are enabled actually
[07:11] <mikeymike-linux> binary and source  lts
[07:11] <mikeymike-linux> dapper
[07:11] <jdrake> foof00: not quite in edgy yet
[07:12] <foof00> mikeymike-linux, sed -i 's/main restricted$/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.llist
[07:12] <mikeymike-linux> foof00, what does that do?
[07:12] <foof00> mikeymike-linux, gives you universe and multiverse
[07:12] <jdrake> So how are things on the file system front? I am faced with that decision in a few days and I am moving away from reiser from my experience with it.
[07:12] <mikeymike-linux> foof00, automagically? :D
[07:12] <silouette747> Hey everyone I'm having a problem booting into Ubuntu whenever I try I get to the part where it tries to boot pbbuttonsd and then it fails and the screen goes black. Any ideas?
[07:12] <mikeymike-linux> what does sed do
[07:12] <rawrness> adding a resp is diffrerent in edgy :P
[07:12] <marcrosoft> anyone wanna guess why nautilus crashes when viewing a certain folder? ...
[07:12] <foof00> mikeymike-linux, yup :-)
[07:12] <Phlosten2> mikeymike-linux, less the spelling mistake on the end
[07:13] <shadok> mikeymike-linux: replace a string by another
[07:13] <homer> sed is a find and replace unix util
[07:13] <mikeymike-linux> foof00, is my repo list going to be overwritten?
[07:13] <witless> ok, looks like apt-get dist-upgrade has me most of the way to getting upgraded.  however, there are still a number of packages "kept back".  should i just install them?
[07:13] <homer> !sed
[07:13] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:13] <foof00> mikeymike-linux, nope
[07:13] <mikeymike-linux> ok so if u break my repos u buy me a new everything i ever wanted :D
[07:13] <rebelfallen> Anyone know how to DISABLE xgl? It's a one line command, and I just can't find it. I downloaded and installed it and enabled, then X junked out on me
[07:13] <mikeymike-linux> wait there is a spelling mistake
[07:13] <mikeymike-linux> ok
[07:13] <wiz> Does ubuntu have CONFIG_4KSTACKS enabled or diabled in dapper by default?
[07:13] <shadok> mikeymike-linux: do you do the contrary if it works ? ^^
[07:14] <mikeymike-linux> foof00, im scared to hit enter
[07:14] <St_MPA3b> u know any good output engines for amarok? Xine engine = bad sound :(
[07:14] <mikeymike-linux> lol no wai
[07:14] <shadok> mikeymike-linux: it would be a fair deal :)
[07:14] <mikeymike-linux> o i have to sudo?
[07:14] <shadok> yes mikeymike-linux
[07:14] <foof00> mikeymike-linux, yea
[07:14] <mikeymike-linux> ok done
[07:14] <kale77in> Is there a simple way to tell iptables to allow access to localhost?
[07:14] <mikeymike-linux> that was painless
[07:14] <mikeymike-linux> now what.
[07:14] <mikeymike-linux> oh right
[07:14] <mikeymike-linux> the packages.
[07:14] <foof00> kale77in, it should by default!
[07:15] <BrettHatley> ok all, thanks for your time - im going to go install edgy and ill be back in a little bit
[07:15] <hangfire> is it possible to update dapper to edgy?
[07:15] <BrettHatley> have a great night!
[07:15] <silouette747> any ideas on why pbbuttonsd is failing when i try to boot ubuntu
[07:15] <kale77in> foof00: I know. I added a modem, and I'm finding all packets to localhost are filtered out.
[07:15] <Nem|ltop> for the love of god
[07:15] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, are you still there
[07:15] <mikeymike-linux> foof00, HOW DID U FIX MY REPOS
[07:15] <mikeymike-linux> you're amazing.
[07:15] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[07:15] <wiz> c
[07:15] <mikeymike-linux> i must have broke them good.....
[07:15] <Flannel> anto9us: yes
[07:16] <s_> Please I need to ask some questions regarding Xchat. PLease PM me
[07:16] <St_MPA3b> u know any good output engines for amarok? Xine engine = bad sound :(. What engine do u use?
[07:16] <Flannel> hangfire: yes
[07:16] <foof00> foof00, ??
[07:16] <Flannel> anto9us: sorry
[07:16] <wiz> Does dapper have: CONFIG_4KSTACKS enabled by default?
[07:16] <rebelfallen> urgh
[07:16] <foof00> mikeymike-linux, gotta know the command line f00l !!!
[07:16] <phenex> hey guys. i'm trying to upgrade to edgy and this is what i get on apt-get update: http://rafb.net/paste/results/J9Y8Mu70.html
[07:16] <jdrake> Its amazing what you discover, I have an apache error log that is 56mb
[07:16] <rawrness> i rember when this room was empty
[07:16] <phenex> any idea what went wrong?
[07:16] <mikeymike-linux> whatttttttt
[07:16] <wiz> Anyone know?
[07:16] <foof00> wiz, dump it an find out
[07:16] <wiz> foof00: how?
[07:16] <mikeymike-linux> foof00, roger that, over.
[07:16] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, finished the installation with hd0, when i select ubuntu in grub I get "error 21: selected disk does not exist"
[07:16] <mikeymike-linux> erm
[07:17] <mikeymike-linux> now i cant install the ligbgtk-dev
[07:17] <mikeymike-linux> i cant install libgtk2.0-dev
[07:17] <mikeymike-linux> it says i need 2 unresolveable dependencies
[07:17] <foof00> mikeymike-linux, aptitude update && aptiitude dist-upgrade
[07:17] <hangfire> thanks Flannel, almost didnt see your response
[07:17] <kyrbe> servers are sooo slow for dl'ing edgy ... switching to bittorrent...
[07:17] <mikeymike-linux>  Depends: libpango1.0-dev but it is not going to be installed            Depends: libcairo2-dev but it is not going to be installed
[07:17] <foof00> mikeymike-linux, wait did you have other repos?  put those changes in there
[07:17] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: Alright, well, it's installed.  so, now we just get to poke around with grub, that's the easy part ;)  So, reboot, go to the grub menu, and begin to edit it, I don't remmeber the key to do so, but it should tell you
[07:17] <mikeymike-linux> foof00, hmm?
[07:17] <St_MPA3b> Lol someone use AmaroK here?
[07:17] <aardfox> Well that was groovy. I was in the little sound adjustment screen when suddenly my computer had a big lockup and i had to restart with the power button. Now the titlebars on the top of windows are flickering
[07:18] <jdrake> I wonder if this about a dozen times a second could slow a system down: (2)No such file or directory: Couldn't bind unix domain socket /var/run/apache2/cgisock
[07:18] <phenex> St_MPA3b, i do
[07:18] <wiz> foof00: how?
[07:18] <Nem|ltop> Flannel okay hold please
[07:18] <jdrake> or a few dozen per second
[07:18] <St_MPA3b> phenex: what output engine u use there?
[07:18] <wiz> foof00: sorry, how can I dump the kernel to find out if CONFIG_4KSTACKS is enabled?
[07:18] <mikeymike-linux> foof00, im not following
[07:18] <St_MPA3b> phenex: Configure AmaroK -> engine
[07:18] <phenex> St_MPA3b, xine
[07:18] <TheWheat> hey need some help. is there any way to disable nautilus search as you type? i want it to act like windows explorer, ie when i press 'a' twice it will select the 2nd file starting with 'a' not look for a file starting with 'aa'
[07:19] <Joespower> yo, who wants to take pitty on a TOTAL noob
[07:19] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, okay its on edit, root (hd2,2) etc
[07:19] <St_MPA3b> bphenex: =/
[07:19] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, want me to pastebot it or whatever its called
[07:19] <phenex> and it gives rather nice quality sound
[07:19] <St_MPA3b> phenex: i have bad basses with it :(
[07:19] <mikeymike-linux> i think i just broke my compiz
[07:19] <aardfox> Has anyone ever heard of that problem? The titlebar flickering
[07:19] <phenex> don't know what's wrong with yours...
[07:19] <charlie5> hello, a couple of times each day, my disk goes crazy and my system slows to a crawl for 15 mins or so ... i've been trying to find the culprit with ksysguard and top, but its tricky since i can barely 'drive' the machine when it disk crunching
[07:19] <phenex> hey guys. i'm trying to upgrade to edgy and this is what i get on apt-get update: http://rafb.net/paste/results/J9Y8Mu70.html
[07:19] <mikeymike-linux> carp.
[07:19] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: Nah, hd2,2 is what I needed.  So, you installed... sdc1 is windows, sdc2 is swap, sdc3 is /?
[07:20] <rawrness> gaim is very laggy!
[07:20] <foof00> wiz, strings /boot/config-2.6.15-27-386 | grep "4KSTACKS"
[07:20] <rawrness> on full screen
[07:20] <St_MPA3b> TheWheat: and what output plugin u choosed?
[07:20] <jme> anyone familiar with the --color option on ls?
[07:20] <rawrness> its like slow mo
[07:20] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, correctamundo
[07:20] <charlie5> my swap is half full and my ram all full ... maybe its updatedb for slocate ? ... can i disable it somehow ?
[07:20] <kyrbe> jme, yes
[07:20] <TheWheat> St_MPA3b: i'm still a newbie so i'm not sure what you're talking about :)
[07:21] <s_> Why Ubuntu is not connecting aumatically to internet on startup?
[07:21] <St_MPA3b> TheWheat: u use amarok player?
[07:21] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: hmm.  You're sure?  since.. that would be 2,2.  Bother.  You're sure it's not sdc5 or anything?
[07:21] <mikeymike-linux> how can i install this libgtk2.0-dev
[07:21] <mikeymike-linux> ugh
[07:21] <jme> kyrbe: I'm trying to re-enable color in terminal applications
[07:21] <Joespower> I got a question, the Official Ubuntu Book mentions a ubuntu-server channel, only there isn't one.  What gives?
[07:21] <jme> kyrbe: s set to color=auto, so it's unclear why it stopped working...
[07:22] <Flannel> Joespower: there is, although it's for the -server CD development, you can ask server related questions here though
[07:22] <kyrbe> jme, look in your ~/.bashrc
[07:22] <bimberi_> charlie5: it could be updatedb.  you could remove (or comment out everything in) /etc/cron.daily/slocate
[07:22] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, positive
[07:22] <jme> kyrbe: my bashrc aliases it to --color=auto
[07:22] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, there are only 3 partitions on sdc
[07:22] <Joespower> Really? It doesn't show up in my channel list
[07:22] <kyrbe> jme, specifically what terminal app?
[07:22] <mikeymike-linux> how can i install these libgtk2.0-dev  libpango1.0-dev  libcairo2-dev im in unresolved dependency hell
[07:23] <jme> gnome-termiinal, emacs
[07:23] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: right, but that doesn't mean it's 1,2,3, prmary drives start at 1, extended start at 5
[07:23] <jme> but the ls behavior is a clue
[07:23] <kyrbe> in emacs you want font-lock-mode
[07:23] <jme> when I turn on color=always it works, but only in ls
[07:23] <kyrbe> every app is different, jme
[07:23] <jme> the man page says "With --color=auto, color codes are output only if standard output is connected to a terminal (tty)."
[07:23] <Akuma_> how do i get ubuntu to use 1400x1050 ?
[07:23] <mikeymike-linux> libcair2-dev   Depends: libcairo2 (=1.0.4-0ubuntu1) but 1.2.0-0ubuntu1quinn2 is to be installed
[07:23] <kyrbe> yes, --color is for ls as far as I know
[07:23] <jme> yes, but color stopped working in them all at once
[07:23] <mikeymike-linux> what in the world does that mean?
[07:23] <charlie5> bimberi_: thank you ... can i use kcron ?
[07:23] <Joespower> So, is the 6.10 release an LTS release?
[07:23] <Flannel> Joespower: no
[07:23] <jme> so I figure there's a common cause
[07:23] <kyrbe> dunno then, jme
[07:24] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, all i know is that my 2 sata drives are sda and sdb
[07:24] <Flannel> Joespower: 6.06 is, 6.10 is just a normal one
[07:24] <bimberi_> charlie5: idk sorry, give it a try :)
[07:24] <kyrbe> I'm new myself :) to linux
[07:24] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: wait, sda? and sdb?
[07:24] <Nem|ltop> yeah
[07:24] <jme> kyrbe: yeah, font-lock-mode enables it in emacs
[07:24] <jme> hmm
[07:24] <Nem|ltop> those drives are in raid and are left out of the equation
[07:24] <charlie5> bimberi_: cheers :) ... will do
[07:24] <JoseStefan> hi
[07:24] <kyrbe> and :syntax in vi
[07:24] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: then you want hd0,2 or hd1,2 not hd2,2
[07:24] <bimberi_> :)
[07:24] <Joespower> Is there any benefit in upgrding my 6.06 server to 6.10 beyond Upstart?
[07:24] <jme> thanks for the advice, kyrbe
[07:25] <kyrbe> jme, what happens if you run your .bashrc file again? . ~/.bashrc
[07:25] <Flannel> Joespower: newer kernels, and newer versions of programs
[07:25] <charlie5> bimberi: not at first glance, ... i try the /etc approach
[07:25] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, why though, sda and sdb are NOT to be used with ubuntu
[07:25] <jme> erm, it's not executable, kyrbe
[07:25] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: er... so, you have sda, sdb, and sdc then?
[07:25] <shadok> Joespower: openoffice 2.0.4
[07:26] <kyrbe> jme, uh? you can't type this: '. ~/.bashrc' ?
[07:26] <jordan> does anyone know how to install java runtime environment?
[07:26] <mista> anyone installed IVTV?
[07:26] <kyrbe> jme, if in bash it should run again and set everything up in your profile/session/terminal
[07:26] <Flannel> !tell jordan about java
[07:26] <jme> kyrbe: yeah, but only after you chmod it
[07:26] <stargater_> moin
[07:26] <Nem|ltop> Flannel right, sda and sdb are in a raid stripe via nf4 chipset, sdc is a single 320gb seagate sata drive that i intend to put windows and ubuntu on
[07:26] <jme> yeah, I ran it to no apparent effect
[07:26] <kyrbe> oh, never had to do that, jme
[07:27] <fluxinator> !tell me about java
[07:27] <jme> that file is reprocessed every time a new bash starts anyway
[07:27] <jme> !java
[07:27] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:27] <Leone> where can i download the ISO of EDGY?!
[07:27] <kyrbe> good luck jme
[07:28] <kyrbe> Leone, ubuntu.com
[07:28] <JoseStefan> Leone, /topic
[07:28] <Leone> thanks people
[07:28] <TheWheat> St_MPA3b: im talking about nautilus not amarok. i think you got a bit mixed up
[07:28] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: baah.  Why'd you say "I only have sda and sdb" then?  Just trying to confuse me.  Anyway, I have no idea.  I suggest maybe trying hd2,5
[07:28] <mykilx> hell all
[07:28] <fluxinator> jeez is everyone updating to edgy
[07:28] <cafuego> nope
[07:28] <mykilx> anyone here run a western digital raptor drive?
[07:29] <Joespower> I just recently installed dapper server, and I did an aptitude upgrade. It grabbed the latest kernel image, but it also replaced grub with lilo! Why would it do that
[07:29] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, never said thats all i had, ive been only referencing sdc this whole time
[07:29] <Flannel> 22:27 < Nem|ltop> Flannel, all i know is that my 2 sata drives are sda and sdb
[07:29] <fluxinator> kyrbe, I have nearly a gig of updates
[07:29] <mykilx> and or an MSI K8N Diamond Plus
[07:30] <Joespower> would it have something to do with the kernel image?  do some images require lilo?
[07:30] <Leone> how much space have a live cd , i mean i can download whatever i can ?
[07:30] <lotusleaf> fluxinator: debmirror is fun for updates =)
[07:30] <Nem|ltop> i meant to say SATA raid
[07:30] <fluxinator> lol lotusleaf
[07:30] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, error 21 again
[07:30] <lotusleaf> fluxinator: you can splatter universe across several DVDs too =)
[07:30] <unclouded> hi.  has anyone here installed Ubuntu 6.10 dual boot with Windows using a non-English language?
[07:30] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: gotcha. Hmm.  If they're a raid, wouldn't they show up as one disk?  and then sdb would be your second harddrive?
[07:31] <Nem|ltop> i heard ubuntu doesnt like nforce4 raid
[07:31] <hangfire> so is there a package that updates dapper to edgy? I dont know where to look
[07:31] <Nem|ltop> but they definitely show up as 2 unallocated drives, im sure of that
[07:31] <Flannel> !upgrade | hangfire
[07:31] <ubotu> hangfire: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[07:31] <hangfire> thx Flannel
[07:31] <mykilx> Nem|ltop: i'm having trouble with nforce4 as well
[07:32] <mykilx> if i plug more than 1 sata drive in, my port 1 drive becomes sdb instead of sda
[07:32] <Ademan_> Flannel: i'm not trying to find the programs themselves, just the launchers (since they contain icon information as well)
[07:33] <jordan> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre doesn't work, and I have uncommented all the servers from my sources.list. Any suggestions?
[07:33] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: alright, well... I don't know.  You could boot a liveCD and look.  As silly as that sounds.  You need to know where /boot is
[07:33] <mikeymike-linux> i think i just messed up my repos
[07:33] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[07:33] <mikeymike-linux> bad
[07:33] <mikeymike-linux> i checked all of them
[07:33] <mikeymike-linux> and now i have mucho errors
[07:33] <mikeymike-linux> duplicate source lists
[07:33] <Flannel> jordan: "multiverse" isn't uncommentable, you have to add it
[07:33] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, i have no idea how to do that
[07:34] <mikeymike-linux> i wonder if there is a backup sources lists
[07:34] <Flannel> jordan: just add the word 'multiverse' after each universe, and you'll be fine though
[07:34] <Flannel> !easysource | mikeymike-linux
[07:34] <ubotu> mikeymike-linux: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:34] <Ademan_> Flannel: though it looks like /usr/share/applications might contain a great deal of them, i dunno if it contains "all" of them though
[07:34] <mikeymike-linux> where is the list again
[07:34] <mikeymike-linux> /etc/ ??
[07:34] <Flannel> mikeymike-linux: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:34] <hw> /etc/apt/sources.list :] 
[07:34] <mikeymike-linux> thanks
[07:34] <mykilx> my raptor is being recognized as being attached to a SCSI Host Adapter instead of my sata controller any ideas?
[07:34] <mikeymike-linux> i have backups in there
[07:35] <JoseStefan> so what replaces disk manager in edgy ?
[07:35] <javacoder> Could someone tell me the best place to put enviroment variables?  ie: .bash_profile or something like that?
[07:36] <wegstar> ok
[07:36] <hyphenated> javacoder: yeah, ~/.bash_profile for personal ones
[07:36] <wegstar> I'm in the installation process
[07:36] <Ademan_> javacoder: usually .bashrc i believe
[07:36] <mikeymike-linux> 2 letter code for my country united states would be US?
[07:36] <tzadikim> anyone know how i can find out what kind of motherboard i have in windows?
[07:36] <wegstar> and I'm faced with this meny
[07:36] <wegstar> that asks me which kernel to install
[07:36] <hyphenated> javacoder: not ~/.bashrc tho, that is used differently from ~/.bash_profile
[07:37] <wegstar> do I choose linux-396?
[07:37] <Nem|ltop> jesus
[07:37] <Ademan_> javacoder: well, anyone knows better than me so listen to them lol
[07:37] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, is it possible to use lilo or something
[07:37] <wegstar> or linux-image-386?
[07:37] <GWAPO-30M> can i install ubuntu using a diffent partition rather than using CDROM?
[07:37] <wegstar> or even linux-image-2.6.15-26-386?
[07:37] <JoseStefan> wegstar, "linux-386"
[07:37] <wegstar> thanks
[07:37] <wegstar> what are the others for?
[07:37] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: lilo vs grub wont make a difference.  grub is installed, and workingf ine, we just can't find /boot ;)
[07:37] <wegstar> just curious
[07:37] <jordan> thanks for the help flannel, working well
[07:38] <JoseStefan> wegstar, "linux-386" will handle it all and pull the others
[07:38] <wegstar> cool
[07:38] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, it also can't seem to boot windows...
[07:38] <javacoder> hyphenated:  what about for system wide?
[07:38] <eigenlambda> bug in update-manager
[07:39] <Beginner-newbie> can i install ubuntu using a diffent partition rather than using CDROM?
[07:39] <eigenlambda> if your sources.list has sources that can't be contacted
[07:39] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: really?  that's odd.  What error do you get there?
[07:39] <duncanm> Removing python2.4-egenix-mxtools ...
[07:39] <duncanm> syntax error in status file:  at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 406, <S> line 1.
[07:39] <eigenlambda> the update fails
[07:39] <duncanm> what's that?
[07:39] <mikeymike-linux> man i broke my sources.list hard
[07:39] <orkid__> Beginner-newbie: using the debian-installer from archive.ubuntu.org (or somthing like that). it's text only afaik.
[07:39] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[07:39] <eigenlambda> and doosn't explain why
[07:39] <Zer0Ry0k0> Has anyone been able to get Dual Screen to work?  Not Twin View
[07:40] <tnnc> can someone give me an site to d/l torrent
[07:40] <phenex> hey guys. i'm trying to upgrade to edgy and this is what i get on apt-get update: http://rafb.net/paste/results/J9Y8Mu70.html
[07:40] <Zer0Ry0k0> with nVidia
[07:40] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, same error, error 21: selected disk does not exist
[07:40] <Beginner-newbie> thanks orkid__
[07:41] <orkid__> Beginner-newbies: you can get an iso, put it in a partition and use a boot image with the installer (on a USB stick for example)
[07:41] <hyphenated> javacoder: /etc/profile
[07:41] <unixslut> hello
[07:41] <hackel_> Bah, so I spent almost an hour downloading the stupid alternate CD, and I -still- have almost 500M to download!  At 20k/s no less!  There's got to be a way to make the dapper-edgy upgrade archive into a torrent!
[07:41] <javacoder> thank you very much hyphenated!!
[07:41] <wegstar> btw, is it possible for ubuntu to switch between languages?
[07:41] <wegstar> i.e. choose your language during startup
[07:41] <BlakeSmith> are there any edgy customization guides out?... found one on forum but repo seems down
[07:41] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: I'm thinking this whole thing must be because of the RAId, and misnumbering.  Try changing that 2,2 to 1,2, just for kicks.
[07:41] <orkid__> phenex: try it again. or try a different source (ie. US)
[07:42] <Beginner-newbie> orkid__: thanks thats a good idea
[07:42] <Flannel> hackel_: the alternate CD with a torrent, yes.
[07:42] <Zer0Ry0k0> Has anyone been able to get Dual Screen to work with an nVidia card?  Not Twin View
[07:42] <phenex> orkid__, thanks, i will...
[07:42] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, just in grub right?
[07:42] <Flannel> Zer0Ry0k0: tried xinerama?
[07:42] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: yes
[07:42] <Zer0Ry0k0> Flannel: no, I just was trying to use the wiki page
[07:42] <c|int> is reading, and applying the concepts, Sams.Ubuntu.Unleashed.Aug.2006, .The.Official.Ubuntu.Book.Aug.2006,  Ubuntu Hacks - Tips and Tools for Exploring, Using, and Tuning Linux (O'Reilly, 2006), , and way many others
[07:43] <hackel_> Flannel:  I've already got it--that's only half of the download!  The other half is still at 20K/s (when I'm lucky!).  Oh well.
[07:43] <BlakeSmith> are there any edgy how-to's for codecs and such?
[07:43] <edgy> Hi, I have some software that I need to remove (say some old kernels), should I choose mark for removal or mark for complete removal in synaptic?
[07:43] <Flannel> Zer0Ry0k0: there's a xinerama wiki page
[07:43] <Flannel> !xinerama | Zer0Ry0k0
[07:43] <ubotu> Zer0Ry0k0: xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[07:43] <Zer0Ry0k0> Flannel: there is a guide for editing /X11/xorg.conf but I'm getting lost or something
[07:43] <Flannel> edgy: complete removal
[07:44] <eigenlambda> edgy: prolly complete removal
[07:44] <edgy> Flannel: what's the difference?
[07:44] <Flannel> edgy: complete removal removes configuration files as well as just the program itself
[07:44] <Zer0Ry0k0> Flannel: okay, I'll try this prog
[07:44] <c|int> hi Flannel, edgy, and Zer0Ry0k0
[07:44] <edgy> Flannel: but I am afraid that would remove the configuratoin file of the new kernel, no?
[07:44] <orkid__> why no jigdo DVDs ?
[07:44] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, error 22, no such partition :(
[07:44] <Zer0Ry0k0> c|int: hey
[07:45] <edgy> c|int: hi
[07:45] <Flannel> edgy: no, it'll remove the configuration of the old kernels, don't worry, you'll still have a menu.lst
[07:45] <BlakeSmith> Can I install codecs via the Dapper methods for Edgy?
[07:46] <c|int> vmware looks like its going up, and okay, in edgy. just to report
[07:46] <eigenlambda> you mean, does the win32codec pack still work?
[07:46] <eigenlambda> afaik, yes
[07:46] <Beginner-newbie> my HD partitions are on NTFS, can i resize it during installation for ubuntu use without destroying the files in that partition
[07:46] <BlakeSmith> thank you eigenlambda
[07:46] <eegore> is there a free vmware server with no time limit?
[07:46] <c|int> yes Beginner-newbie
[07:46] <robitaille> Beginner-newbie:  yes
[07:47] <ltR^> hello, somebody to type this in term sudo ln -sf /bin/sh /bin/bash
[07:47] <ltR^> how do i revert whatever i did
[07:47] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: I have no idea what else it might be.  You might try posting to the forums or something.  Im sure someone knows, just not I.
[07:47] <ltR^> Flannel you there?
[07:47] <c|int> it will just move data, like defraging.. etc.. like organizing your house to look nice, to make room for other things
[07:47] <c|int> in lamen terms
[07:47] <Flannel> ltR^: I am.  what's up?
[07:47] <hackel_> Really?  Ubuntu can resize NTFS partitions?  That's impressive.
[07:47] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, which forums?
[07:47] <eigenlambda> ltR^: were you trying to update-alternatives?
[07:47] <ltR^> i typed this in (sudo ln -sf /bin/sh /bin/bash)
[07:47] <c|int> I'm also studying file systems..
[07:47] <Beginner-newbie> thanks! for the info
[07:47] <Flannel> Nem|ltop: ubuntuforums.org
[07:47] <ltR^> im trying to get an application to work
[07:47] <Xgates> say with Edgy I installed nvidia-glx then when I logged out of X the server died, I couldn't use nv or nvidia
[07:47] <c|int> the software, etc. tools can .. hackel_
[07:47] <wiz> Yay!
[07:47] <ltR^> and searched a forum and the person told me to type that
[07:48] <ltR^> now in term it's messed up
[07:48] <hyphenated> hackel_: it's been able to for a while now. but first boot back into the windows partition will require a consistency check
[07:48] <wiz> c|int, I got wifi working, but could you answer one or two extra questions related to it?
[07:48] <ltR^> how do i revert whatever i just typed
[07:48] <Flannel> ltR^: why not just change it's shebang to bash? and leave sh aliased to dash? so you don't break the rest of your system
[07:48] <c|int> back to my vmware install, on edgy
[07:48] <Xgates> is there something different to getting the Nvidia drivers working in Edgy, different from previous versions?
[07:48] <Flannel> ltR^: you'll symlink it back to dash (/bin/dash)
[07:48] <duncanm> i can't remove  python2.4-egenix-mxtools python2.4-egenix-mxdatetime python2.4-egenix-mxtexttools
[07:48] <c|int> Xgates: , I can help you
[07:48] <Zer0Ry0k0> Flannel: would you recommend this for having a TV hooked up as the second monitor, I only want it to play video files
[07:48] <ltR^> Flannel, what's the command :D
[07:48] <eigenlambda> ltR^: fix it with update-alternatives
[07:48] <hackel_> I'm just surprised since I thought you still had to use an emulated ntfs driver to even write to the partitions.  I haven't used Windows in years, though.
[07:49] <c|int> I had alot of issues with edgy.. but then I troubleshooted them on my own, and be glad to help you. I use nvidia for my workstation
[07:49] <Xgates> c|int: I've been following this ---> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy
[07:49] <c|int> okay first of all, you have a clean installation of edgy eft?
[07:49] <eigenlambda> sudo update-alternatives --config sh
[07:49] <Xgates> c|int: yeah just installed it
[07:49] <JoseStefan> Xgates, just install nvidia-glx and enable them
[07:49] <c|int> okay
[07:49] <c|int> do a dist-upgrade
[07:49] <c|int> yes.. nvidia-settings are already installed
[07:49] <c|int> is(
[07:49] <Xgates> JoseStefan: enable as in?
[07:49] <c|int> open terminal Xgates
[07:50] <Xgates> k
[07:50] <Flannel> Zer0Ry0k0: I have no idea.  I don't see why it shouldn't work though
[07:50] <ltR^> eigenlambda, what do i type
[07:50] <c|int> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[07:50] <Chandu> hi
[07:50] <shadok> I just dist-upgraded and at boot it freezes on the first step of kubuntu splash screen, can it be the video driver ? (I know I have to reinstall it but did'nt do it before reboot, I'm on knoppix in and chrooted in ubuntu)
[07:50] <wiz> How can I make a kernel module not auto load?
[07:50] <eigenlambda> sudo update-alternatives --config sh
[07:50] <eigenlambda> lol
[07:50] <eigenlambda> ^^ that
[07:50] <c|int> then you have to reboot system, restarting x, won't even trigger it..
[07:50] <Zer0Ry0k0> Flannel: just wanted to ask before I begin doing this
[07:50] <JoseStefan> Xgates, To enable the driver, run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable".
[07:50] <eetfunk> hi guys, is there a basic command line email client (to send emails through smtp) on *nix? (there must be!)
[07:50] <Xgates> JoseStefan: ok did that
[07:50] <Xgates> c|int: ok done
[07:50] <c|int> good
[07:51] <Chandu> If I have the ubuntu mirror .. I want to know How do I create Packages file for breezy
[07:51] <Flannel> Zer0Ry0k0: I'm definately not an expert on the subject, I dont even have a GUI ;)
[07:51] <shadok> eetfunk: mutt
[07:51] <hackel_> eetfunk:  mail?
[07:51] <Zer0Ry0k0> Flannel: oh, lol
[07:51] <Flannel> eetfunk: telnet!
[07:51] <eetfunk> hackel: tried to install mail, but apt-get cant find it
[07:51] <c|int> just reboot and come back, it should then be utilizing the nvidia, driver :)
[07:51] <Chandu> If I am using "dpkg-scanpacakges" it will take higher version packages ..which is for edgy ..How I create for Breezy
[07:51] <eigenlambda> nc
[07:51] <eigenlambda> lol
[07:51] <eetfunk> Flannel: i thought about this one already :)
[07:51] <hackel_> eetfunk:  Install mailx
[07:51] <Xgates> c|int: ok, I guess that was the problem before I didn't do
[07:51] <eigenlambda> nc server port < headers message
[07:51] <Xgates> sheesh feel like such a Noob LOL
[07:52] <Xgates> thanks
[07:52] <eetfunk> hackel_: thnx
[07:52] <tnnc> has anyone else had trouble with flash not playing  in FF on edgy
[07:52] <c|int> yeah, I had some minor issues, with edgy, but I took care of them
[07:52] <JoseStefan> Xgates, those instructions are on the pkg description :/
[07:52] <wiz> What file do I need to edit, to make a module not autoload, and another one autoload.
[07:52] <c|int> with edgy.. nvidia-settings is already made available
[07:52] <eigenlambda> wiz: try adding the one you don't want to load to the blacklist
[07:52] <eigenlambda> /etc/modprobe.d
[07:52] <c|int> the user just needs to install nvidia-glx, then   invoke the command..  # sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:53] <eigenlambda> dunno about installing4autoloadage
[07:53] <ltR^> eigenlambda, i can't open term
[07:53] <ltR^> it closes
[07:53] <eigenlambda> lol
[07:53] <eigenlambda> oh dear
[07:53] <c|int> then boot the entier session
[07:53] <c|int> entire*
[07:53] <eigenlambda> ok.  new idea
[07:53] <eigenlambda> boot from your livecd
[07:53] <eigenlambda> and type
[07:53] <shadok> c|int: does it have to be done _before_ rebooting ?
[07:53] <c|int> well, I suppose you could modprob it
[07:53] <c|int> modprobe*
[07:53] <edgy> Flannel: thx for the tip
[07:53] <barnetod> boy this install is a nightmare :)
[07:53] <eigenlambda> ugh.  you need to get in from a livecd and modify your filesystem
[07:53] <JoseStefan> lol this mobo only supports AGP 2x :(
[07:54] <c|int> nvidia-glx-config enable?
[07:54] <ltR^> who me?
[07:54] <tnnc> has anyone else had trouble with flash not playing  in FF on edgy
[07:54] <shadok> c|int: yes
[07:54] <c|int> yes
[07:54] <shadok> erf
[07:54] <wiz> hrm, anyone know how to make ndiswrapper load on boot?
[07:54] <frisb> you know, I'm pretty sure i have gcc installed, but make doesn't seem to exist on my computer
[07:54] <shadok> i didn't do it and now i'm chrooting ^^
[07:54] <c|int> now for the modprobe or reboot entire session.. I"m not aware of. but I suppose you could.. modprobe the nvidia driver.. then just restart X
[07:54] <eigenlambda> ltR^: i get it, actually
[07:54] <barnetod> anyone got time to answer some dual boot questions
[07:54] <eigenlambda> ln -lf TARGET LINK_NAME
[07:54] <Flannel> barnetod: what questions?
[07:55] <ltR^> sudo update-alternatives --config sh what?
[07:55] <shadok> c|int: I had a freeze just after grub, on the first splash screen, can it be that ?
[07:55] <eigenlambda> you have been trolled
[07:55] <barnetod> flannel a lot lol
[07:55] <canine_kouji> *sigh*
[07:55] <Flannel> barnetod: best way to get them answered is just to ask them ;)
[07:55] <SurfnKid> 0_o
[07:55] <c|int> tell me what all you doing..
[07:55] <bug_> does anyone know how to disable autorun (specifically in xfce)
[07:55] <canine_kouji> I downloaded 6.10, but its at work :/
[07:55] <barnetod> i partitioned the drive to run ubuntu
[07:55] <c|int> your*
[07:55] <eigenlambda> ltR^: somebody told you to delete /bin/bash
[07:55] <canine_kouji> I'm off to the kubuntu channel, heh.
[07:55] <c|int> I'm using edgy shado
[07:55] <c|int> shadok:
[07:55] <duncanm> i need some help with python-egenix-mx*
[07:55] <duncanm> i can't remove them!
[07:55] <aardfox> i have no idea if this is just Xgl, Beryl, or my whole operating system but since I've installed Edgy Eft every 30 or so minutes I've been booted out to the login screen. I'm running Gnome now to see if the problem is specific to Xgl, but I'd like to hear if anyone else has been having this problem.
[07:55] <barnetod>  the / 4 gig partitions ext3 swap 1.5gig /home 16gig
[07:55] <c|int> also.. I"m studying alot of books, hee
[07:55] <ltR^> eigenlambda how do i fix this lol
[07:55] <barnetod> no when i go to next screen asking partitions
[07:56] <eigenlambda> i386, right?
[07:56] <frisb> can someone help me out with installing GCC so I can compile?
[07:56] <barnetod> i get the media/sda1 media/sda 2 wanting to mount
[07:56] <barnetod> now one is mounting to my ntfs windows main partition and the other seems to mount to the root
[07:56] <Flannel> frisb: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:56] <eigenlambda> maybe I could send you by /bin/bash
[07:56] <ltR^> i typed this - (sudo ln -sf /bin/sh /bin/bash) and (sudo ln -sf /bin/bash /bin/sh)
[07:56] <timfrost> frisb: do
[07:56] <barnetod> should i just hit continue? or what
[07:56] <shadok> c|int: I dist-upgraded and rebooted, that's all and I can't boot on any kernel, old ones dont find my / and the new one freeze during splashscreen
[07:57] <eigenlambda> ltR^: bad idea
[07:57] <timfrost> frisb: apt=-get install build-essential
[07:57] <barnetod> this is my first install with ubuntu and... bare with the noob questions
[07:57] <eigenlambda> circular links
[07:57] <tnnc> has anyone else had trouble with flash not playing  in FF on edgy
[07:57] <ltR^> eigenlambda, somebody told me too lol
[07:57] <ltR^> stupid forums
[07:57] <eigenlambda> and now, you're going to have a hard time starting any processes
[07:57] <eigenlambda> who told you that?
[07:57] <frisb> thanks flannel, timfrost
[07:57] <eigenlambda> they need to get kicked off the internet
[07:57] <ltR^> so i shouldnt reboot..
[07:57] <eigenlambda> yes
[07:57] <eigenlambda> don't reboot
[07:57] <shadok> c|int: now i'm in ubuntu thanks to chroot ^^
[07:57] <eigenlambda> or your next boot will be from a livecd
[07:57] <hackel_> tnnc:  dude, enough!  obviously if someone had an answer for you, they would have said it!  Flash is proprietary and for losers, get over it.
[07:58] <eigenlambda> hm.
[07:58] <c|int> lol shadok
[07:58] <darkgamer20> guys i have to say im really impressed with edy
[07:58] <tritium> hackel_: be nice
[07:58] <darkgamer20> *edgy
[07:58] <ltR^> eigenlambda, okay so how can i fix this lol
[07:58] <hackel_> tritium:  sorry. :-P
[07:58] <barnetod> flannel did i explain thsi correctly?
[07:58] <eigenlambda> ya...
[07:58] <barnetod> lol
[07:58] <barnetod> or am i so totally lost at this point?
[07:58] <eigenlambda> ltR^: boot from your livecd
[07:58] <ltR^> ok
[07:58] <tnnc> hackel i only sent that 3 times i see other do more no an big deal
[07:58] <ltR^> then?
[07:58] <eigenlambda> copy /bin/bash on the livecd to /bin/bash on your hard disk
[07:58] <shadok> c|int: I knew I would'nt have upgraded :p
[07:59] <Flannel> barnetod: /media shouldn't be in there, maybe the ntfs one (although, I'd just deal with mounting ntfs after installing), but / should be being partitioned and mounted as / and stuff something like this? : http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1152/screenshotmd6.png
[07:59] <eigenlambda> thats all
[07:59] <shadok> *should'nt
[07:59] <eigenlambda> oh yeah, are you using edgy?
[07:59] <tritium> tnnc: try not to repeat, of course
[07:59] <ltR^> yes
[07:59] <Flannel> barnetod: (I've never used the liveCD to install, so Im flying sort of blind)
[07:59] <ltR^> cant i just copy it now.. oh wait
[07:59] <sladen> hackel_: yes, tnnc still wants to get it working...!
[07:59] <eigenlambda> because if you are, you will also need to link /bin/sh to /bin/dash again
[07:59] <hackel_> tnnc:  no idea what that meant.  If it wasn't you, then someone else was in here recently asking about it repeatedly as well.
[07:59] <barnetod> yes it looks like that flannel
[07:59] <ltR^> k
[07:59] <ltR^> im going to boot in the live cd
[07:59] <barnetod> i jsut wanted to use the / /home and swap
[07:59] <ltR^> and come back k
[07:59] <barnetod> is that possible?
[07:59] <eigenlambda> k
[08:00] <ltR^> but the disc wont mount..
[08:00] <ltR^> in the live cd right
[08:00] <eigenlambda> of course it won't
[08:00] <barnetod> cause im not sure where to put the media stuff because i really do not want to format my windows partition
[08:00] <Flannel> barnetod: right, you want to have / mounted as /dev/hda# or whatever (depending on your harddrive/partition number)
[08:00] <eigenlambda> mounting probably involves 'sh -c mount ...'
[08:00] <Xaphoo> something messed up my sources.list ... can someone tell me how to revert to the default sources.list and edgy-universe.list and edgy-multiverse.list?
[08:00] <Flannel> barnetod: just don't put it anywhere
[08:00] <tnnc> thats ok sorry i ask wont again
[08:00] <Flannel> !easysource | Xaphoo
[08:00] <barnetod> get rid of them?
[08:00] <ubotu> Xaphoo: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:00] <eigenlambda> and you don't have a sh any more
[08:00] <c|int> dam
[08:00] <eigenlambda> lol
[08:00] <c|int> ran into module problems
[08:00] <Xaphoo> thanks so much
[08:00] <shadok> what does that mean : The following packages have been kept back:  hpijs python-htmlgen python-libxml2 ubuntu-minimal
[08:00] <c|int> grrr.. >_<
[08:00] <eigenlambda> just reboot.  there's nothing else you can do.
[08:00] <barnetod> and mount the / /home and swap correct?
[08:00] <Flannel> barnetod: don't mention them in that.  Is there an option for that?
[08:00] <barnetod> ill try brb in like ten :)
[08:00] <ltR^> cant i just reinstall it from spm
[08:00] <Flannel> barnetod: riht, each of your linux partitions
[08:01] <barnetod> you be here?
[08:01] <eigenlambda> you probably can't even shut down.
[08:01] <eigenlambda> infact, i know you can't
[08:01] <Flannel> barnetod: most likely, there are plenty of people who can help though
[08:01] <Xaphoo> hmm ubotu... that doesn't support Edgy
[08:01] <barnetod> okay good
[08:01] <sladen> shadok: the upgrader couldn't resolve what to do.  Try   sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[08:01] <barnetod> i appreciate the response atleast
[08:01] <Xaphoo> !easysource
[08:01] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:01] <shadok> sladen: thx
[08:01] <barnetod> lets see how it goes haha
[08:01] <Xaphoo> oh
[08:01] <Xaphoo> I see now :)  Well Flannel, it doesn't support edgy.. :)
[08:01] <Flannel> Xaphoo: oh, you're right, it doesn't.
[08:01] <shadok> sladen: it seems ok, installing :)
[08:01] <hackel_> Why do you need a webpage?  Can't update manager restore sources.list easily?
[08:02] <c|int> dang it :(
[08:02] <Xaphoo> hackel, how?
[08:02] <sladen> hackel_: update-manager basically replaces all instances of  'dapper' with 'edgy', or similar
[08:03] <Xaphoo> somehow it's all screwed up and I get a bunch of error messages and I haven't been able to update
[08:03] <c|int> I got to do the paste bin deal, because I forgot site
[08:03] <c|int> paste!
[08:03] <sladen> Xaphoo: what messages do you get?
[08:03] <c|int> !paste
[08:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:03] <hackel_> sladen:  I meant software properties then.  Whatever ubuntu GUI tool there is that lets you choose repositories, etc.
[08:03] <Xaphoo> sladen: http://pastebin.ca/224038
[08:04] <shadok> http://pastebin.ca/224037 I had this problem during the last upgrade
[08:04] <shadok> any hint ?
[08:04] <sladen> hackel_: could we take a step backwards as I came in halfway through your question.  What are you attempting to do (eg. upgrade from dapper to edgy using 'update-manager' ?
[08:04] <shadok> i tried dpkg-reconfigure locales but that doesnt change anything
[08:05] <Chippy> is there a way for me to disable extra sound cards from being used?
[08:05] <hackel_> sladen:  No, I was responding to someone else's question about restoring their sources.list. :)
[08:05] <shadok> and I get the same errors before it starts to reconfigure locales
[08:05] <c|int> guys, Sivik-sleep, created, #edgy, and I also gotu p.. #ubuntu-edgy
[08:05] <sladen> shadok: do you have a French language pack installed?
[08:05] <c|int> so we can focus more on edgy, issues, etc.. everything.. and the release of edgy
[08:05] <sladen> shadok: locales will be updated automatically when lanaguage packs (which contain the actual translations) are installed
[08:05] <FliesLikeABrick> shadok if they upgrade kept going after that, don't worry
[08:05] <FliesLikeABrick> most upgrades tend to give errors about locales
[08:05] <shadok> sladen: i had one yes, now i d'ont know
[08:06] <shadok> ah FliesLikeABrick
[08:06] <c|int> anyone want to see, my output, I got from vmware?
[08:06] <fraco> I just keep forgetting the command to install the links in rc?.d
[08:06] <fraco> can anybody tell me?
[08:06] <sladen> shadok: do you see anything from   dpkg -l | grep language-pack
[08:06] <FliesLikeABrick> fraco update-rc.d
[08:06] <fraco> thnx
[08:06] <sladen> c|int: what type of output, is it an error message?
[08:06] <shadok> sladen: yes fr language packs
[08:07] <shadok> it seems ok "ii"
[08:07] <MrKeuner> !help
[08:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:07] <sladen> shadok: mmm.
[08:08] <pepeamid> hi ubotu xD
[08:08] <pepeamid> hahaha
[08:08] <c|int> yep
[08:08] <c|int> this is what i got sladen
[08:08] <c|int> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28611/
[08:08] <c|int> maybe, its not accepting it going onto ,the latest upgrade of edgy,
[08:08] <markdarb> Hi. Does anyone know how I can make it so that using my dialup connection doesn't require a password (and that, therefore, any user can use it without having to type in the admin password)? I'm using Dapper. Thanks.
[08:08] <Xaphoo> damn
[08:09] <Xaphoo> can anyone please help me out with my screwed up sources.list?
[08:09] <c|int> I did the export and everything
[08:09] <sladen> shadok: have you tried a reboot after the upgrade?
[08:09] <shadok> sladen: i think it's not my primary problem here :) i'll assume it's ok
[08:09] <Xaphoo> can someone just send me a default one?
[08:09] <Xaphoo> that website doesn't work for edgy
[08:09] <shadok> sladen: ye sand it freezes on splashscreen :/
[08:09] <sladen> Xaphoo: can you paste it somewhere and tell us what message you're getting
[08:09] <Xaphoo> I did, here it goes again
[08:09] <shadok> how to force a reinstall ?
[08:09] <Xaphoo> sladen: http://pastebin.ca/224038
[08:09] <shadok> with aptitude
[08:09] <MrKeuner> Xaphoo: dapper or edgy?
[08:09] <Xaphoo> but I have the feeling that I am missing important repos
[08:09] <Xaphoo> edgy
[08:09] <sladen> shadok: freezes?  Does the machine hang, how are you currently logged in if the machine hangs on boot?
[08:09] <shadok> can't find that damn argument
[08:09] <ltr200> Hello
[08:10] <ltr200> I'M ON THE LIVE CD NOW!!
[08:10] <c|int> what would ubuntu do without all the users :-) and testers :)
[08:10] <Xaphoo> I look at my sources.list and I can't figure out whether I am even looking at the main repos
[08:10] <c|int> we make up ubuntu :-)
[08:10] <ltr200> elkbuntu u there?
[08:10] <c|int> well, Xaphoo, what do you want.. want mine?
[08:10] <ltr200> how do i restore bash from the live cd?
[08:10] <shadok> sladen: a freeze yes maybe it's already X when it happens, can't do anything but reboot, it happens just after grub on the kubuntu splashscreen
[08:10] <c|int> I keep it pretty simple. and stable
[08:11] <nnonix> My wireless (which previously worked in both Breezy and Dapper out of the box.) is not working. 'iwlist scan' reports that the interface ath0 doesn't support scanning. Anyone, anyone?
[08:11] <Xaphoo> no I got help from McKeuner, thanks
[08:11] <c|int> Xaphoo: ?
[08:11] <Xaphoo> Thanks McKeuner
[08:11] <c|int> oki, :-)
[08:11] <JoseStefan> Xaphoo, you can use System-Administration-Software Sources to edit your sources.list
[08:11] <Xaphoo> I know
[08:11] <Xaphoo> but somehow I don't trust it
[08:11] <shadok> sladen: old kernels can't find my / too
[08:11] <Xaphoo> I think it created my problem
[08:11] <Xaphoo> but I have no proof of that
[08:11] <aardfox> How can I see how much space is remaining on my HDD?
[08:11] <MrKeuner> aardfox: df
[08:11] <shadok> sladen: i'm chrootin it right now
[08:11] <sladen> c|int: /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h  has an issue on line 60 according to those error messages.
[08:12] <ltr200> elkbuntu uthere?
[08:12] <sladen> shadok: ah, right.  Do you have uuids in /etc/fstab ?
[08:12] <c|int> even though I know.. OpenBSD is probably 1 of the most secure, stable BSD out of them all, ;P
[08:12] <fluxinator> my god... 1380mb of updates...
[08:12] <aardfox> All right, is there a way to do this within gnome that doesn't use the terminal?
[08:12] <shadok> sladen: yes UUID=d35f60ce-1d29-455d-8636-ff786fcd7eef / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[08:12] <aardfox> for future reference
[08:12] <c|int> hey thanks sladen
[08:13] <MrKeuner> aardfox: baobab
[08:13] <elkbuntu> ltr200, why are you asking me specifically?
[08:13] <ltr200> was it you talking to me before?
[08:13] <c|int> I just need to read alotof the books i got.. m8
[08:13] <aardfox> What's baobab?
[08:13] <elkbuntu> ltr200, if it was, i dont remember
[08:13] <MrKeuner> aardfox: an application
[08:13] <ltr200> eigenlamda i think
[08:13] <ltr200> eigenlamda , you there?
[08:14] <AkumAPRIME> hey there. I'm just now getting into Ubuntu and I need some help. I would like to change my screen resolution, as of now it seems I can't. I believe I need to install some packages, but Idk what/how. Secondly I'd like to get my wifi card up, as it isnt now. I also believe this is solved by DLing packages, but again, I'm lost
[08:14] <c|int> sladen, what distro you using.
[08:14] <KenSentMe> !fixres | AkumAPRIME
[08:14] <ubotu> AkumAPRIME: x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:14] <snoops> is there a dvd of edgy desktop, alternative, server in i386 and amd64 versions?
[08:14] <Chippy> is there a way for me to disable extra sound cards from being used?
[08:14] <KenSentMe> !wireless | AkumAPRIME
[08:14] <ubotu> AkumAPRIME: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:14] <shadok> sladen: what the point with thos uuids ? never saw that before
[08:14] <elkbuntu> ltr200, what are you trying to do? you said you want to restore bash.. are you sure you dont mean grub?
[08:14] <AkumAPRIME> ty kensentme
[08:14] <c|int> AkumAPRIME: , I can help you
[08:15] <ltr200> yes i'm sure
[08:15] <LedStyle> Is the DVD image already out?
[08:15] <ltr200> i need to re install bash and fix the "link" or something
[08:15] <elkbuntu> ltr200, then ive got no idea
[08:15] <sladen> shadok: very long random numbers.  It's to do with the changes from /dev/hd* to /dev/sd* and to cope with things like root on USB
[08:15] <lotusleaf> LedStyle: yup, downloaded it earlier today
[08:15] <LedStyle> lotusleaf, wich mirror?
[08:15] <lotusleaf> LedStyle: grab the edgy dvd iso via torrent
[08:15] <c|int> hey sladen, I was wanting to engineer a netinstall for ubuntu :P
[08:16] <lotusleaf> LedStyle: didn't look for mirrors, just grabbed the torrent
[08:16] <ltr200> is there a way to mount of drives in the licd cd
[08:16] <sladen> shadok: if you do  sudo update-initramfs -u KERNEL-VERSION, you should then be able to boot with another version
[08:16] <lotusleaf> LedStyle: cdimages.ubuntu.com
[08:16] <c|int> and heck, while at it, going to do a custom usb, for pen drives.. 1 GB min
[08:16] <c|int> he he
[08:16] <LedStyle> lotusleaf, tks... ill take a look!
[08:16] <LedStyle> :D
[08:16] <lotusleaf> LedStyle: yw
[08:16] <c|int> going to include the vlc, and xmms, and maybe other few as well :-)
[08:16] <shadok> sladen: ah thx i try that :)
[08:16] <sladen> shadok: if you boot with the 'quiet' and 'splash' parameters removed, you should see what the messages is (it could just be fsck, the disk-checker running)
[08:16] <valehru> Is there a way to get the sound working in Firefox flash player whilst watching a movie at the same time?  Im in Edgy btw...
[08:16] <c|int> vmware player too, for people.. :-) and qemu. to avoid confrentations :P
[08:16] <LedStyle> lotusleaf, is this the final release right? http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/dvd/20061025/
[08:17] <markdarb> Can I configure my dialup connection to not require an admin password to be used?
[08:17] <KenSentMe> !sound | valehru
[08:17] <ubotu> valehru: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:17] <shadok> sladen: good idea, didn't know about those, i personally use gentoo so splashscreens are not part of my world ^^
[08:18] <lotusleaf> LedStyle: in the releases directory for edgy there are dvd isos listed, if the md5sums coincide with the ones at the url you referenced, they should be
[08:18] <valehru> KenSentMe, alsa is enabled...
[08:18] <cyphase> is anyone else having problems with the gtk controls while using beryl?
[08:18] <KenSentMe> valehru: check the links then
[08:19] <shadok> sladen: hmm i just got root@Knoppix:/# update-initramfs -u vmliuz-2.6.15-27-386 ******** update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-386 is that normal ?
[08:19] <kevinmiller> Hey, does anyone know how to set up a wireless network in Ubuntu 6.06?
[08:19] <kevinmiller> :)
[08:19] <c|int> anyone interested, in working on professional ubuntu project
[08:19] <aardfox> How do I run a .sh within the gnome GUI?
[08:19] <c|int> just send me a msg :)
[08:19] <AkumAPRIME> wow... Idk what that one sudo command did... was I supposed to enter it?
[08:20] <AkumAPRIME> it just made my screen black, and totally terminal
[08:20] <Zer0Ry0k0> Has anyone been able to get Dual Screen to work with an nVidia card?  Not Twin View
[08:20] <Zer0Ry0k0> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOut?highlight=%28nvidiatv%29
[08:20] <v1per> thank you...for mplayerplug-in _package_  ... so much saved effort
[08:20] <sladen> shadok: yup, should be fine
[08:20] <shadok> sladen: ok thx I reboot this pc :)
[08:20] <kevinmiller> qwertew
[08:20] <duncanm> what are these python-egenix packages for?
[08:20] <kevinmiller> Hmm
[08:21] <sladen> shadok: by default, most Unix programs only make a sound if something goes wrong
[08:21] <kevinmiller> Can anyone see me?
[08:21] <AkumAPRIME> I can
[08:21] <numist> maybe?
[08:21] <sladen> kevinmiller: yes
[08:21] <duncanm> everytime i do an upgrade, they break
[08:21] <kevinmiller> You can?
[08:21] <kevinmiller> lol
[08:21] <kevinmiller> cool
[08:21] <kevinmiller> Sorry guys
[08:21] <thybo> yes we can keviniller
[08:21] <thybo> what break duncanm?
[08:21] <sladen> duncanm: what is 'they' ?
[08:21] <kevinmiller> It just said something about registering nicks or something above lol
[08:21] <shadok> sladen: I always cut the "bell" in my towers ^^ can't bear that ugly sound :p
[08:21] <kevinmiller> Anyways, I'm having issues with getting my internet to work.
[08:21] <ChrisNiemy> aardfox: try starting nautilus-file-managemt-properties , go to tab behaviour, there you can control, if executable tex files shoul be viewed only, always run or if a queston should pop up
[08:21] <kevinmiller> I dunno if anyone knows anything about it
[08:22] <sladen> shadok: xset -b
[08:22] <Zer0Ry0k0> seems to be working
[08:22] <Vaske_Car> how to start Tomboy after upgrade?
[08:22] <JoseStefan> kevinmiller, seems to be working fine
[08:22] <mikeymike-linux> how do i configure my alsa mixer to show me what im using to record from
[08:22] <duncanm> python2.4-egenix-mxtexttools python2.4-egenix-mxdatetime
[08:22] <kevinmiller> Yeah, I'm on my Mac.
[08:22] <mikeymike-linux> currently its sending ALL what i hear
[08:22] <ChrisNiemy> aardfox: oops, ist nautilus-file-management-properties
[08:22] <kevinmiller> heh
[08:22] <Zer0Ry0k0> ah
[08:22] <mikeymike-linux> and i dont want that
[08:22] <kevinmiller> In OS X
[08:22] <kevinmiller> Not in Linux right now
[08:22] <sladen> Vaske_Car: sudo apt-get install tomboy
[08:22] <duncanm> sladen: python2.4-egenix-mxtexttools and friends
[08:22] <shadok> sladen: 2min have to go upstairs :p
[08:22] <Vaske_Car> hi salden
[08:22] <Vaske_Car> sladen
[08:22] <sladen> duncanm: if they are broken, that is a bug, and needs fixing
[08:22] <sladen> hello Vaske_Car
[08:22] <kevinmiller> I put in all the info I have in the networking too, and it doesnt help
[08:22] <duncanm> sladen: i can't remove them
[08:23] <Zer0Ry0k0> I don't know about getting the internet working, it just worked when I installed
[08:23] <sladen> duncanm: sudo apt-get --purge remove python2.4-egenix-mxtexttools
[08:23] <kevinmiller> I have a wireless connection, so yeah
[08:23] <mikeymike-linux> how do i configure my alsa mixer to show me what im using to record from , currently its sending ALL what i hear  and i want it to record from my aux2 on my audigy2
[08:23] <Triskelios> is there an Edgy-specific guide for remastering live CDs? or one that would be reliable for Edgy, anyway
[08:23] <Vaske_Car> sladen, Tomboy is already installed, how do I start it?
[08:23] <sladen> kevinmiller: what information, wep key, essid ?
[08:23] <kevinmiller> I have a wireless connection to a router
[08:23] <duncanm> sladen: syntax error in status file:  at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 406, <S> line 1.
[08:23] <duncanm> dpkg: error processing python2.4-egenix-mxdatetime (--purge):
[08:23] <Zer0Ry0k0> Has anyone been able to get Dual Screen to work with an nVidia card?  Not Twin View
[08:23] <Zer0Ry0k0> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOut?highlight=%28nvidiatv%29
[08:24] <kevinmiller> I enter my IP, Subnet mask, Default Gateway and DNS thigns
[08:24] <kevinmiller> I dont know my Essid heh or wep key
[08:24] <Zer0Ry0k0> if the wireless router is not private then there is no wep key
[08:24] <duncanm> the ones that i can't remove are python2.4-egenix-mxdatetime python2.4-egenix-mxtexttools python2.4-egenix-mxtools
[08:25] <Ninja562> erk
[08:25] <aardfox> Where is nautilus? : D
[08:25] <chillywilly> my X is broken after dapper->edgy dist-upgrade
[08:25] <duncanm> sladen: any ideas?
[08:25] <kevinmiller> Hmm, Ok.   When I do DHCP, which is what my thing says is my info, then it blanks it all out
[08:25] <Vaske_Car> sladen, found it, we have to add it to the panel :)
[08:25] <kevinmiller> I have to do static IP or whatever
[08:25] <kevinmiller> On the wireless eth1
[08:25] <Zer0Ry0k0> aardfox: you just put in a blank CD and it will ask you what you want to do with it
[08:26] <kevinmiller> Otherwise I cant enter anything.
[08:26] <Zer0Ry0k0> aardfox:  then you just drag and drop files into the CD drive through the folder browser thingy
[08:26] <bitwiseshiftleft> let me be the ++nth to say, congrats on the release
[08:26] <JoseStefan> bitwiseshiftleft, you are the 1st
[08:26] <sladen> Vaske_Car: ah, excellent.
[08:27] <aardfox> nautilus is a cd burning program?
[08:27] <bitwiseshiftleft> JoseStefan: heh, that's amusing...
[08:27] <aardfox> Wow I am really confused now...All i want to do is run a .sh
[08:27] <Zer0Ry0k0> oh, sorry, that's what I use it for
[08:27] <kevinmiller> Anyways, I am spoiled with my Mac, because it sets up the wirelss connection Auto
[08:27] <JoseStefan> aardfox, to run a sh, you can do: bash filename.sh
[08:27] <Zer0Ry0k0> there is a couple packages you can install to make it do that
[08:27] <kevinmiller> So doing it manually, I have no idea what I'm doing on Ubuntu
[08:27] <duncanm> hey thybo
[08:28] <Vaske_Car> now we dont have init.d no more?
[08:28] <Zer0Ry0k0> ummmm
[08:28] <LedStyle> Why "sh" is linking to "dash" and not for "bash" now?
[08:28] <fluxinator> Vaske_Car, no init.d?
[08:28] <JoseStefan> LedStyle, it is?
[08:28] <aardfox> Jose how do I do that within gnome's GUI? I'm trying to learn to do everything in such a way that could easily be taught to others
[08:28] <LedStyle> JoseStefan, yeap!
[08:28] <Zer0Ry0k0> kevinmiller: do you know how to set up the router?
[08:28] <duncanm> bah
[08:28] <LedStyle> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2006-10-20 04:56 /bin/sh -> dash
[08:28] <Vaske_Car> I was reading something that they changed to manage services
[08:28] <AqD> hi all!
[08:28] <AqD> anyone here use my mac menubar?
[08:28] <Zer0Ry0k0> kevinmiller: do you have much experience with it?
[08:28] <kevinmiller> Well, it's already set up for the mac.
[08:28] <JoseStefan> aardfox, on gui you can double click an sh file (if it is marked as executable)
[08:29] <kevinmiller> No, not really.  lol
[08:29] <sladen> duncanm: can you file a bug report while we're working on this  (python-mx... cannot be removed)  and include the error messages
[08:29] <AqD> i just came to see if any of you have some comments? :)
[08:29] <AqD> eww
[08:29] <LedStyle> Whats wrong with bash?
[08:29] <aardfox> Synaptec package manager comes up then, and does nothing : (
[08:29] <duncanm> sladen: sure, is it to bugzilla.ubuntu.org?
[08:29] <kevinmiller> I'm eager to learn.  Cant I set it up to work on both my mac, and when I boot into Linux, on that too?
[08:29] <AqD> with edgy released i wont need to maintain the 2.8 patch i guess
[08:29] <Zer0Ry0k0> kevinmiller:  okay, I'm not thinging verry clearly right now, but I can try to help you
[08:29] <bitwiseshiftleft> LedStyle: I'm guessing that dash is smaller and therefore loads faster
[08:29] <AqD> kevinmiller: my mac menubar?
[08:29] <duncanm> launchpad, fonud it
[08:29] <kevinmiller> I appreciate it. :)
[08:30] <kevinmiller> Mac menubar?
[08:30] <AqD> ah
[08:30] <LedStyle> bitwiseshiftleft, but bash is much more usual i think
[08:30] <AqD> i replied to wrong ppl? :D
[08:30] <AqD> heh
[08:30] <Rav|strangler> 17 mins left of Distribution Upgrade
[08:30] <LedStyle> isnt?
[08:30] <AqD> all right, anyway the howto is here => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868
[08:30] <Rav|strangler> w00t
[08:30] <AqD> for those who interest in
[08:30] <bitwiseshiftleft> LedStyle: I know, and it's on Dapper too... just guessing at why the put dash in edgy
[08:30] <AqD> both of gnome and xfce applets are there
[08:30] <sladen> duncanm: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/egenix-mx-base/+filebug
[08:30] <AqD> and gtk2 patch
[08:31] <ChrisNiemy> aardfox: maybe you have type in a terminal "chmod a+x filename"  or make a desktop-starter by right clicking on the deskop -> create starter (or so), select the file and check at "run in terminal"
[08:31] <Zer0Ry0k0> kevinmiller: the router dosen't need to be set up for either OS, it's more about getting it to recognize the connecting trying to be established..... maybe it's a problem with the Linux client, but I haven't had any experience with setting up wireless
[08:31] <JoseStefan> LedStyle, script specify what they require bash / dash / sh   sh has been mapped to something "newer" for a while now
[08:31] <AqD> hm i should post to osnews instead
[08:31] <AqD> later guys ;)
[08:31] <JoseStefan> scripts*
[08:31] <AkumAPRIME> yeah.. so I put this code that the faq tells me to into the terminal. It says, " After unpacking 30 meg..." Do you want to continue Y/n?
[08:31] <kevinmiller> Yeah, my mac just scans and sees it.
[08:31] <AkumAPRIME> I type y, it aborts
[08:31] <JoseStefan> aardfox, that shouldnt happen
[08:31] <Zer0Ry0k0> kevinmiller: yeah
[08:31] <kevinmiller> I never had to set it up
[08:31] <JoseStefan> aardfox, what are you trying to run?
[08:31] <AkumAPRIME> I type yes, it aborts, Yes, it aborts, Y, it aborts... any idea why?
[08:31] <thybo> my wireless works fine what is the problem?
[08:31] <kevinmiller> I enter in all the info, and Ubuntu wont do anything
[08:31] <shadok> sladen: got one error cat: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf not found :)
[08:32] <pyth> hello, when I'm doing an upgrade in edgy I get this -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28613/
[08:32] <pyth> how can I solve that?
[08:32] <kevinmiller> It's frustrating, because I wanna try out and learn about Linux, but I cant get my internet up.
[08:32] <thybo> lol
[08:32] <AkumAPRIME> what card kevinmiller?
[08:32] <thybo> kevin is it wireless?
[08:32] <kevinmiller> Also, it's like, after I get one thing going, there is another issue.
[08:32] <kevinmiller> Card?
[08:32] <kevinmiller> Yeah, wireles
[08:32] <Zer0Ry0k0> kevinmiller: do you have the option of using a cable for a few hours?
[08:32] <aardfox> a crossover install sh
[08:32] <AkumAPRIME> what type?
[08:32] <sladen> JoseStefan: /bin/sh is a pure POSIX shell now (no extensions)---if you have stuff with bashisms, change your sscripts to use 'bash' with  '#!/bin/bash'
[08:32] <kevinmiller> Nope.
[08:32] <Zer0Ry0k0> k
[08:32] <bitwiseshiftleft> kevinmiller: what kind of mac do you have?
[08:32] <aardfox> did you not see my private message?
[08:32] <LedStyle> pyth, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:32] <kevinmiller> Intel
[08:32] <kevinmiller> new
[08:33] <JoseStefan> pyth, you can try solving that in synaptic, the apt way to do it is install each package one by one
[08:33] <pyth> LedStyle: gives me the same error
[08:33] <Zer0Ry0k0> he's not having trouble with the mac getting online  =P
[08:33] <duncanm> sladen: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/egenix-mx-base/+bug/68544
[08:33] <shadok> sladen: mdadm is already installed
[08:33] <sladen> shadok: I think that is a warning, rather than an error---unless you know that you have an md/raid setup
[08:33] <sladen> duncanm: brilliant!
[08:33] <JoseStefan> pyth, or try aptitude instead of apt
[08:33] <LedStyle> pyth, why dont u download the Edgy CD and update? Just put on drive and choose the option on the window will appear
[08:33] <bitwiseshiftleft> kevinmiller: modprobe new_wlan_scan_sta ?
[08:33] <shadok> sladen: no i haven't but that is the only error i get, i tried with nosplash and quiet
[08:33] <kevinmiller> My hope is to later, if I can get it working right, have a Dual-boot Mac OS X and Ubuntu
[08:33] <duncanm> sladen: in the mean time, is there anything i can do to get rid of these packages?
[08:34] <aardfox> Josestefan i made a shortcut to it and now it opens a terminal window that closes within a second or so
[08:34] <shadok> sladen: older kernels didn't work, doing nothing, last line : booting kernel...
[08:34] <pyth> LedStyle: that's not a solution for me ;)
[08:34] <AkumAPRIME> bitwiseshiftleft: if it's not found, whats that mean?
[08:34] <smax> help me! I downloaded DVD image by jigdo I downloaded to step 2 so it's stop's and after this I see 3 tabs ( 3 steps of downloading) what I should to do?
[08:34] <narma> Is it possible to install ubuntu and some applications wich are not into tha installatin CD, without internet ?
[08:34] <pyth> I'll try it manually
[08:34] <JoseStefan> aardfox, i dont understand what you are trying to do
[08:35] <LedStyle> Does GRUB goot mac osx86 partition?
[08:35] <aardfox> the script should install Crossover
[08:35] <LedStyle> goot no... boot
[08:35] <bitwiseshiftleft> AkumAPRIME: oh right, you need to apt-get some stuff... http://bin-false.org/?p=17 has more details
[08:35] <smax> narma. Yes you can install from dvd or from your hard drive
[08:35] <kevinmiller> Got ya, Akumprime, it wont let me pm you back.
[08:35] <JoseStefan> pyth, try installing ubuntu-desktop
[08:35] <kevinmiller> lol
[08:35] <kevinmiller> I'm new to IRC so bare with me.
[08:35] <aardfox> josestefan, but instead of using a .deb i guess they got lazy and decided to go with sh
[08:35] <sladen> duncanm: did you get my private /query ?
[08:35] <kevinmiller> :)
[08:35] <Mazon> just tried edgy eft yesterday - had some irritating issues: unable to change refreshrate to 100Hz, despite _hand editing_ the xorg.conf I added the correct horz/vert sync but then I could only choose between 80 and 81Hz
[08:35] <umTTumT> hi all
[08:35] <frederick85> Is anybody finished their edgy download yet
[08:35] <narma> smax, I can't use DVD only CD
[08:36] <Zer0Ry0k0> Has anyone been able to get Dual Screen to work with an nVidia card?  Not Twin View
[08:36] <Zer0Ry0k0> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOut?highlight=%28nvidiatv%29
[08:36] <duncanm> sladen: yeah
[08:36] <aardfox> frederick85, i did a while ago
[08:36] <JoseStefan> aardfox, what program are you trying to run?
[08:36] <umTTumT> -ping
[08:36] <umTTumT> -showcommands
[08:36] <frederick85> if I install edgy ontop of 6.06 will beryl still be on there
[08:36] <aardfox> josestefan, a crossover installation .sh
[08:36] <AkumAPRIME> After unpacking 30.4MB of additional disk space will be used.
[08:36] <AkumAPRIME> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? Y
[08:36] <AkumAPRIME> Abort.
[08:36] <AkumAPRIME> Can anyone explain that please? why is it aborting, I'm saying yes, y, Y, Yes
[08:36] <narma> smax, how can I install from hard disk ? is possible to build a .deb repository?
[08:36] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, im using 2 monitors. Is this u want?
[08:36] <elmargol> someone knows a webbased torrent client? (not mldonkey)
[08:36] <smax> narma. Yes.
[08:37] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: yeah, I want to have 2 X desktops
[08:37] <narma> smax, ok but how ?
[08:37] <JoseStefan> aardfox, did you try: bash filename.sh ?
[08:37] <aardfox> frederick85, yes, but i've been having problems with beryl ever since i installed
[08:37] <frederick85> elmargol: give ctorrent a try
[08:37] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, its easy... just a min
[08:37] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: I don't want the one desktop to span across the two screens
[08:37] <bitwiseshiftleft> AkumAPRIME: not a clue.
[08:37] <aardfox> frederick85, installed edgy that is
[08:37] <frederick85> aardfox: what kind of problems
[08:37] <AkumAPRIME> /sigh, cool thanx
[08:37] <elmargol> mldonkeys torrent support really sucks :(
[08:37] <zennix_> hey all
[08:37] <zennix_> i have a problem
[08:37] <shadok> sladen: strange I have the file /etc/mdadm/mdam.conf :/
[08:37] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, sorry... cant uderstand... can u explain better?
[08:38] <frederick85> aardfox: maybe some configuration files got overwritten?
[08:38] <aardfox> josestefan, it said it couldn't find the file
[08:38] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, poor english plz... hehe
[08:38] <zennix_> my system wont see the swap space how do i get it to load it up automatically
[08:38] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, You want 2 difrerente desktops all right? Not clone!
[08:38] <shadok> sladen: do you think that problem is kernel related ? if so i'm gonna compile it
[08:38] <JoseStefan> aardfox, you have to replace the example with your file
[08:38] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: yeah
[08:38] <smax> narma You should have installed package dpkg-dev or dpkg-utils ( i don't remember) on every ubuntu forum there are a lotof informatinon about this I'm not at home or ask here how to make lockal repository
[08:38] <smax> help me! I downloaded DVD image by jigdo I downloaded to step 2 so it's stop's and after this I see 3 tabs ( 3 steps of downloading) what I should to do?
[08:38] <elmargol> frederick85: ctorrent has a webinterface?
[08:38] <JoseStefan> aardfox, bash _____
[08:38] <aardfox> frederick85, possibly. What's been happening is beryl's been booting me out to the login screen, eating up my memory, and being a pest
[08:38] <fuoco> i upgraded to edgy and bcm43xx stopped working, i can't connect to my AP
[08:38] <frederick85> zennix_: change /etc/fstab
[08:38] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, open the /etc/X11/xorg.conf (please make a backup first)
[08:39] <sladen> shadok: no, it's probably not kernel related.
[08:39] <shadok> erf :/
[08:39] <narma> thank you smax :)
[08:39] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: yeah, it's open and copied
[08:39] <zennix_> ok ill see what i can do thanks
[08:39] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, find the section "Device"
[08:39] <sladen> shadok: is that the *only* message you see during a boot up without the splash and quiet parameters, what happens if you select (recovery mode)
[08:39] <LedStyle> Before the "EndSection" put this 3 lines:
[08:39] <aardfox> josestefan, i did bash myfile.sh . i guess i'll have to include the file destination.
[08:39] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0,         Option          "TwinView" "True"
[08:39] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle:  okay, got it
[08:39] <LedStyle>         Option          "UseEdidFreqs" "1"
[08:39] <LedStyle>         Option          "MetaModes" "1280x1024,1024x768"
[08:39] <frederick85> zeenix_: i can give you what my /etc/fstab looks like for the swap if you want
[08:39] <LedStyle> But change the "metamodes" for the resolutions u want
[08:40] <shadok> sladen: i'm checking the logs, booting noppix takes a long time, I'll try that if i can't find anything
[08:40] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, its the 1st and 2nd monitor
[08:40] <zennix_> i can see the swap is not there
[08:40] <JoseStefan> aardfox, the program may require sudo, but that may change your system, for good or bad
[08:40] <frederick85> zeenix_: /dev/hda6       none            swap    sw                      0       0
[08:40] <zennix_> i knwo where it is
[08:40] <smax> who can help me finish downloadind DVD from jigdo???
[08:40] <zennix_> but i dont kwo what the line shoudl say apart from the location
[08:40] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, and its just. Worked to me...
[08:40] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle:  but that is going to make it be the same desktop.... have you used this to watch movies and browse the internet?
[08:41] <zennix_> yeah paste me the swap line in a pm
[08:41] <aardfox> josestefan, YAY. I didn't know you could drag files into the terminal to put in their paths. I retried the bash with that technique and it worked
[08:41] <bluefox83> smax, just restart the download
[08:41] <barnetod> Flannel :)
[08:41] <barnetod> thanks man
[08:41] <aardfox> josestefan, thanks man
[08:41] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, of course! Im looking this xchat windows in the right monitor and browsing internet in the left monitor.
[08:41] <JoseStefan> aardfox, ok
[08:41] <smax> blufox83 tempate size is 670 mb it's 2 time
[08:41] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: okay okay, I'll give it a try, the way the guy that wrote the guide made it sound like it wouldn't work well
[08:41] <momal> help someone????? need to know how to upgrade to edgy via dapper... seems dist-upgrade broke everything | it seems to be wanting something with libuim3 but trying to install that says it wants to overwrite a file in another .deb file
[08:41] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, Its a single big desktop, but if you use a Gnome player (GTK) you can put in full screen
[08:41] <zircx> gotta say, edgy is very nice..
[08:42] <sladen> shadok: you should be able to see on the screen and look at the last thing that you see
[08:42] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, and the full screen take only 1 monitor
[08:42] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, and a hint>
[08:42] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: okay, cool
[08:42] <bluefox83> smax, you didn't happen to download it twice did you?
[08:42] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, create another Gnome-panel to the second monitor.
[08:42] <sladen> JoseStefan: beryl shouldn't, it can be started once X is running (IIRC)
[08:42] <james296> what is the name of the file that the Add New Programs application is under, I lost it
[08:42] <shadok> sladen: in "normal" mode with nosplash and quiet argument mdadm message was the last one, i'll check in recovery mode too, thx for your help :)
[08:43] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, so the application will be showed only in one or other "window list" on gnome-panel.
[08:43] <bluefox83> james296, synaptic
[08:43] <smax> bluefox83 I restart it's stop on this stage again
[08:43] <sladen> shadok: yeah, remove the 'quiet' option
[08:43] <james296> no the SIMPLE installer
[08:43] <bluefox83> smax, and you say it's twice the size it should be?
[08:43] <shadok> sladen: ok
[08:43] <james296> from the Applications menu
[08:43] <zircx> ok, java stilll bugs out on stigmachat which is annoying.. but shit happens.. other than that.. I have all the required plugins installed and i even installed the nvidia drivers which work perfectly
[08:43] <niksavel> hey all
[08:44] <zircx> the next thing  is to get me some glitz and glamour..
[08:44] <RancidLM> hey all i have a laptop and a main system when ever i use xdmcp login with my laptop it works but after about 15min it freezes up and nothing responds not even keys.. can some one help me resolve this problem.?
[08:44] <smax> bluefox. It's stops on the same point
[08:44] <zircx> does gnome have applets as good as kde, i can't even remember what the hoarding resourced program was but it looked nice..
[08:45] <james296> well?
[08:45] <JoseStefan> sladen, ??
[08:45] <bluefox83> smax, could be finished
[08:45] <niksavel> ahem...  if anyone has any device....   I have recently upgraded from dapper to edgy in kubuntu...  I have had some progs left behind to be upgraded and did them one by one, I am left with libarts1-audiofile which has unmet dependancies
[08:45] <sladen> JoseStefan: just running something with 'sudo' doesn't normally solve problems! :)
[08:45] <niksavel> lol..   device=advice
[08:45] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: I think I understand what you are saying, but when I finish doing this I'm sure I will get it
[08:46] <JoseStefan> sladen, that was a reply to somone who wanted to install a program provided as .sh
[08:46] <shadok> sladen: ah it seems it froze on detecting the videocard :) i'll reboot in the next minutes to verify that :) Oct 27 07:28:02 user kernel: [17400380.764000]  agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode
[08:46] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, get what?
[08:46] <markdarb> niksavel: how have you been upgrading them?
[08:46] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: the gnome window thing
[08:46] <shadok> shadok is upstairs :p
[08:46] <momal> help someone????? need to know how to upgrade to edgy via dapper... seems dist-upgrade broke everything | it seems to be wanting something with libuim3 but trying to install that says it wants to overwrite a file in another .deb file
[08:46] <lib8264q> hello channel can someone tell me teh command for starting the gnome desktop
[08:47] <sladen> shadok: bingo!
[08:47] <shadok> ah no, how to force a reinstall of a package with aptitude
[08:47] <Zer0Ry0k0> lib8264q: startx
[08:47] <shadok> sladen: it seems :D
[08:47] <niksavel> markdarb: I have done apt-get install for every single name that was left behind...  it was a load of python things, azureus, mplayer and this
[08:47] <JoseStefan> !info libarts1-audiofile edgy
[08:47] <RancidLM> is there a way to upgrade to 6.10 from 6.06?
[08:47] <ubotu> libarts1-audiofile: audiofile plugin for aRts. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 232 kB
[08:47] <lib8264q> ok tried that xrog crashing out .... back to command
[08:47] <lib8264q> ?
[08:47] <JoseStefan> niksavel, make sure you have the universe repo
[08:47] <niksavel> I do
[08:48] <shadok> erf "reinstall" ^^
[08:48] <spunk_> Anyone who knows gcc? I'm a bit confused whether gcc can compile for several target archictectures. If so, why are there special "cross compiler" packages of gcc?
[08:48] <overrider> can ubuntu yet be installed on intel mac`s?
[08:48] <shadok> i was looking for a "force" arg :p
[08:48] <zircx> does anyone know whether the xgl and compiz are still supported packages for installing the glamour stuff for the desktop?
[08:48] <markdarb> niksavel: That's about all I could have said too
[08:48] <yakumo> help trouble using qdvdauthor, when i try to create dvd error mssg appear, err: can't parse video... pls help
[08:48] <sladen> shadok: sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename,  or   sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename
[08:48] <james296> so what is it called?
[08:48] <shadok> ty sladen
[08:48] <markdarb> niksavel: unless it might be in the multiverse?
[08:49] <niksavel> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe
[08:49] <zircx> or should I say the instructions, I know the last time I tried to install that stuff, there were a few dependency files that weren't available anymore
[08:49] <sladen> james296: what is 'it' ?
[08:49] <niksavel> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse
[08:49] <niksavel> these are both in my sources.list
[08:49] <james296> I already asked before, the Add/Remove Applications application
[08:49] <james296> the SIMPLE one
[08:49] <james296> I asked already, and no one responded
[08:49] <niksavel> is it possible that the mirror has holes?
[08:49] <JoseStefan> niksavel, look for the pkg info @ http://packages.ubuntu.com/libarts1-audiofile   and see what dependencies you are missing
[08:49] <lib8264q> ok iv donme a fresh install of  ubuntu back to command  line ... when i type startx to start ubuntu desktop xorgs crashing  back to command line ... ??????
[08:50] <zircx> james just ask again man.. instead of having a hissy fit lol
[08:50] <lib8264q> any advice
[08:50] <james296> I just did
[08:50] <james296> but this is annoying me
[08:50] <barnetod> man a wireless install on ubuntu is a nightmare lol
[08:50] <barnetod> was hard enough getting partitions right :)
[08:50] <AlienX> james296, just be patient. If someone can help you, they most likely will
[08:50] <james296> so whats the answer then? whats that program actually called in Synaptic?
[08:51] <zircx> James the simple add/remove installer?
[08:51] <james296> yeah
[08:51] <zircx>  apt-get? synaptic
[08:51] <AlienX> james296, synaptic is the program in synaptic. It is the front-end to apt-get
[08:51] <james296> the one normally in the Applications menu...
[08:52] <cainlevy> anyone have a good handle on lvm that could help me figure something out?
[08:52] <tiglionabbit> cainlevy: sure
[08:52] <tiglionabbit> I've used it a little
[08:52] <AlienX> cainlevy, just ask your question :)
[08:52] <shadok> gotta go to bed, thx alot sladen, i'll inform you later today or tomorrow of the status of my problem :)
[08:52] <niksavel> it goes down to the dependancy need for kdemultimedia-dev which cannot be installed because of conflict with libmpeg-dev
[08:52] <james296> so whats the file called I need to install it using Synaptic
[08:53] <tiglionabbit> james296: what, to get the add/remove programs entry?
[08:53] <james296> yeah
[08:53] <cainlevy> righto. :) ok, so i'm using lvm (surprise!), but i can't resize the volume groups. i'm getting conflicting information about where the volume groups are ... lvdisplay indicates that they're all in /dev/lvm/*, but /etc/fstab shows them in /dev/mapper/lvm-*.
[08:53] <james296> the app
[08:53] <bluefox83> ok...gnome art manager keeps crashing when i try to download artwork and it wont let me directly install..the option is greyed out..whats up with that?
[08:53] <zircx> james, its called the gnome-app-installer
[08:53] <cainlevy> so, for instance, /dev/lvm/home and /dev/mapper/lvm-home
[08:53] <tiglionabbit> I was just about to say that
[08:53] <james296> thank you
[08:53] <JoseStefan> niksavel, you will need to CHECK if you can remove libmpeg-dev, so you can install the other one
[08:54] <cainlevy> actually listing the contents of those directories reveals nothing in /dev/lvm, but everything i expect in /dev/mapper
[08:54] <Zer0Ry0k0>  lib8264q: try startx -v
[08:54] <zircx> james, I right clicked on the main  menu bar then went to properties and checked the properties of add/remove option and it gave me the name of the program, very simple thing to do buddy
[08:54] <overrider> does anyone know if the new ubuntu can easily be installed on an intel mac?
[08:54] <Zer0Ry0k0>  lib8264q:  and see what it has trouble with
[08:54] <Adriano> anybody got to compile successfully gaim beta4?
[08:54] <cainlevy> and running lvextend on either location fails, each with different error messages
[08:54] <bluefox83> overrider, no reason why it shouldn't
[08:55] <niksavel> JoseStefan: HOW for the love of god???  :)
[08:55] <cainlevy> i've got the whole thing in a forum post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285632
[08:55] <tiglionabbit> er sorry I gotta go
[08:55] <JoseStefan> niksavel, use synaptic, try to remove it and it will complain if it is needed for something else. If it does complain dont remove it
[08:55] <sladen> shadok: thanks
[08:56] <zircx> ok, I'm going to try and install xgl and compiz
[08:56] <zircx> get me some fllashy moving thingies on my desktop
[08:57] <Zer0Ry0k0>  lib8264q: sorry, I was on the phone
[08:57] <niksavel> JoseStefan: it wasnt even installed
[08:59] <JoseStefan> niksavel, try sudo apt-get install  kdemultimedia-dev
[08:59] <Engx> i have upgrade to edgy but xorg won't work?
[09:00] <boink> try it
[09:00] <boink> in theory, it should work
[09:00] <boink> but who knows ...
[09:00] <niksavel>  kdemultimedia-dev: Depends: kdelibs4-dev
[09:01] <Engx> how can i fix it?
[09:01] <JoseStefan> niksavel, follow the food chain, try installing that one
[09:01] <shadok> sladen: HAHA GOT IT :D (i could'nt go to bed with this problem on mind)
[09:01] <boink> dpkg -reconfigure or something like that
[09:01] <JoseStefan> niksavel, or try installing the pkg in synaptic, as it is smarter
[09:01] <cainlevy> can anyone help me with an lvm issue? i've detailed it in the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285632
[09:02] <sladen> shadok: suceeded?
[09:02] <barnetod> hey i know this is a noob q but what is cvs?
[09:02] <shadok> sladen: i found out, without quiet I saw it was blocking on ohci usb, i unplugged usb devices (a mouse and a hub) and it boots flawlessly :)
[09:02] <niksavel> okay
[09:02] <niksavel> strange...  libglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa (= 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3) but 6.5.1+cvs20060815 is to be installed
[09:02] <shadok> yes it works like a charm, just i can't boot with usb devices plugged
[09:02] <shadok> (maybe my MS mouse ^^)
[09:03] <niksavel> I have older version in repos?
[09:03] <bmgz> EDGY IS AWESOME! I can't beleive how quickly GDM appears - I had to rub my eyes!
[09:03] <JoseStefan> niksavel, mixed repos maybe
[09:04] <bmgz> However I didn't get a graphical boot screen?
[09:04] <sladen> shadok: okay, can you file a bug report, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+filebug  "system fails to boot with mouse/hub inserted, ohci_usb)
[09:04] <phire> Just a question, is it possible to use grub to boot a edgy cd image off the hdd?
[09:04] <shadok> sladen: sure :)
[09:04] <frederick85> When I upgrade to edgy will it overwrite my AIGLX Config
[09:04] <sladen> niksavel: do you have non-Ubuntu repos enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list (eg. for xgl?)
[09:04] <GeorgeDutch> How do i skin ubuntu to look like another OS?
[09:05] <boink> skin ?
[09:05] <chemaja> boink, theme
[09:05] <swamptu> i have a quick question...........i'm folling a how-to guide......if it says 'uname -r' so i substitute my login name for uname ??
[09:05] <sladen> GeorgeDutch: install a theme
[09:05] <GeorgeDutch> make it look like another OS
[09:05] <GeorgeDutch> how?
[09:05] <boink> change the theme?
[09:05] <boink> it's in the gnome admin menu
[09:05] <GeorgeDutch> yeah well how
[09:05] <dam_ned> swamptu: no, take it literaly
[09:05] <Adriano> swamptu: uname is a command
[09:05] <sladen> swamptu: uname -r   prints the release of the currently running kernel.  no
[09:05] <swamptu> thank yous
[09:05] <sladen> swamptu: just as it is
[09:05] <Engx> i have upgrade to edgy but xorg won't work?
[09:06] <sladen> Engx: how does Xorg "not work" ?
[09:06] <GeorgeDutch> the gnome admin menu
[09:06] <niksavel> sladen: just deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt kubuntu main , but I am using de.archive... mirror for the repos if that means anything
[09:06] <GeorgeDutch> i am new to linux
[09:06] <GeorgeDutch> ??
[09:06] <shredder> I had to do 'apt-get install xorg-server', because the upgraded xorg packages were "held back", after that xorg started to work for me.
[09:06] <frederick85> GeorgeDutch: System, preferences
[09:06] <Engx> i can use gui
[09:06] <dam_ned> GeorgeDutch: system -> preferences -> theme
[09:06] <shadok> sladen: do I have to give others details ? (motherboard maybe...)
[09:06] <JoseStefan> niksavel, stick to the official repos only, until you finish the upgrade
[09:06] <JoseStefan> i gtg
[09:07] <dam_ned> shredder: did you do apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:07] <GeorgeDutch> thanks
[09:07] <shredder> yes
[09:07] <Engx> sladen: i can't enter GUI
[09:07] <sladen> niksavel: try  sudo apt-get remove  libglu1-mesa-dev  for the moment
[09:07] <sladen> niksavel: or  sudo apt-get install  xserver-xorg
[09:07] <bmgz> I don't get a graphical boot screen during init?
[09:08] <sladen> bmgz: what CPU type do you have?
[09:08] <bmgz> k7
[09:08] <bmgz> athlon-xp
[09:08] <dam_ned> while we're on it, is there anyone that can confirm bug #67196 ?
[09:08] <shredder> yes that wa sit xserver-xorg, I was just mistyping from memory.
[09:08] <dam_ned> I think sladen didn't have time yet to chek it ;)
[09:09] <dam_ned> +c
[09:09] <phire> Just a question, is it possible to use grub to boot a edgy cd image off the hdd?
[09:09] <bmgz> sladen: i am using stock i386 kernel at the mo, got an athlon xp
[09:09] <zoyd> hi
[09:09] <sladen> Engx: do you get any error messages?
[09:09] <sladen> shadok: the right people may ask you for details
[09:09] <AkumAPRIME> akumaprime@Daemon:~$ apt-get install deskbar-applet
[09:09] <AkumAPRIME> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[09:09] <AkumAPRIME> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[09:09] <shadok> sladen: fine :)
[09:10] <heikki> use sudo
[09:10] <boink> AkumAPRIME: use sudo
[09:10] <KenSentMe> AkumAPRIME: use sudo apt-get ..
[09:10] <sladen> AkumAPRIME: sudo apt-get install ...
[09:10] <spunk_> Anyone who knows gcc? I'm a bit confused whether gcc can compile for several target archictectures. If so, why are there special "cross compiler" packages of gcc?
[09:10] <AkumAPRIME> lol, ty all
[09:10] <heikki> :)
[09:10] <zoyd> i'm looking for a Config::Record pm debian package ... any unofficial sources
[09:10] <boink> zoyd: man apt-cache
[09:10] <firebird619> Could someone help me out? I just upgraded from Dapper to Edgy and now when I start the PC it says failed to load module i810. My graphics card is built-in (Intel). What can I do?
[09:10] <zoyd> boink: did that
[09:10] <niksavel> sladen: 1. nothing changed, 2. xserver already newest version ...  it also reported
[09:10] <GeorgeDutch> Where do i get the boink them for ubuntu?
[09:10] <boink> then look for backports on google
[09:10] <sladen> spunk_: yes and no.  generally there is a package to generate the cross-compiler.  Some already exist;  eg. cross compiling for win32
[09:11] <Karark> where do i get mplayer for edgy?
[09:11] <sladen> firebird619: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i810
[09:11] <KenSentMe> !info mplayer
[09:11] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[09:11] <spunk_> sladen, ok. so, the default gcc is not enough then?
[09:11] <GeorgeDutch> !info vlc
[09:11] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[09:11] <boink> Karark: you need the right /etc/apt/sources.list for mplayer and all of codecs
[09:11] <sladen> firebird619: though if 'ubuntu-desktop' is installed, it should have automatically
[09:11] <pibarnas> How can I install mp3, wma, mp4 and so on support, on Edgy Eft?
[09:12] <GeorgeDutch> vlc is better than mplayer uboto!!
[09:12] <niksavel> !info upgradetoengyscrewed
[09:12] <ubotu> Package upgradetoengyscrewed does not exist in any distro I know
[09:12] <KenSentMe> !mp3 | pibarnas
[09:12] <ubotu> pibarnas: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:12] <Karark> boink, i have all enabled and mplayer isn't showing... did update also
[09:12] <sladen> spunk_: the default 'gcc' only compiles for i386 on Linux.  To install every combination would be *alot* of space
[09:12] <boink> Karark: you need the right /etc/apt/sources.list for mplayer and all of codecs
[09:12] <boink> do I have to repeat myself yet again?
[09:12] <spunk_> sladen, ok. thanks!
[09:12] <fluxinator> !info upgradetoedgyscrewed
[09:12] <ubotu> Package upgradetoedgyscrewed does not exist in any distro I know
[09:12] <GeorgeDutch> where can i get more themes for gnome?
[09:12] <leftjustified> I've not seen any mention of this anywhere and I'm new to linux... /me prepares to be flamed... Upgrading to edgy shouldn't hose my /home/username/ dir, should it?
[09:12] <firebird619> sladen: I upgraded by having Dapper booted and inserting the Edgy CD I downloaded and then using Synaptic to update. It was running ok until I rebooted.
[09:12] <sladen> spunk_: what are you wanting to cross compile to?
[09:13] <KenSentMe> !themes | GeorgeDutch
[09:13] <ubotu> GeorgeDutch: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:13] <momal> How do i get eth0 to goto dchp via console???
[09:13] <KenSentMe> leftjustified: it's best to make a backup before updating
[09:13] <sladen> firebird619: do you have a custom xorg.conf ?
[09:13] <sladen> firebird619: try   sudo dpkg-reconfigre -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:13] <leftjustified> KenSentMe: *sigh*.. thanks, shame I don't have room to back up 20GB :-/
[09:13] <spunk_> sladen, mips.
[09:13] <firebird619> sladen: not that I am aware of. I haven't changed it at all.
[09:14] <phire> momal: dhclient eth0
[09:14] <KenSentMe> leftjustified: well, normally it wont hurt to just upgrade
[09:14] <sladen> spunk_: can you build one to match your requirements
[09:14] <spunk_> sladen, dunno. :-)
[09:14] <sladen> spunk_: you can build one to match your requirements
[09:14] <Engx> sladen: thx i fix it by (apt-get install xserver-xorg) :D
[09:15] <KenSentMe> leftjustified: it worked for me, but if you want to be sure, you can make a backup. Maybe you can skip the big files and only backup dirs that start with a .
[09:15] <sladen> Engx: ah, perhaps you don't have 'ubuntu-desktop';  do  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:15] <spunk_> sladen, ok. I hoped to find a ready packet bu to no avail...
[09:15] <elfstone> does aynone have 6.10 EE and legacy nvidia video card?
[09:15] <sladen> spunk_: often you'll get an SDK with the development board and that will have a pre-built compile
[09:16] <Engx> sladen: problem is fixed thanks
[09:16] <sladen> Engx: brillant
[09:16] <spunk_> sladen, Ok. I'll investigate further. Thanks for your help!
[09:16] <sladen> firebird619: you still don't have X?
[09:17] <elfstone> i have a problem with legacy nvidia drivers on ubuntu 6.10
[09:17] <sladen> firebird619: can you   sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg  and ensure that you have X installed
[09:17] <babo> I'm saving a word document in .odt file type.
[09:17] <firebird619> sladen: I am just going to try that command you gave me now, the screen was black for a while, had to wait. The exact thing it says now that I have it running is Failed to load module "i810" (module requirement mismatch, 0) No Drivers available.
[09:17] <E_Presly> elfstone: I do
[09:17] <babo> Is that compatible with windows ?
[09:18] <GeorgeDutch> Does itunes run on ubuntu?
[09:18] <dam_ned> babo: if you install openoffice.org on windows it is
[09:18] <leftjustified> KenSentMe: aah! good avice, thanks :)
[09:18] <leftjustified> advice*
[09:18] <elfstone> E_Presly: im asking because I have a problem with nvidia-glx-legacy drivers
[09:18] <`paul> ive recently installed apache php4 mysql but php files wont load on localhost/~homefolder but it works fine when i put it directly unde /var/www what seems to ba the problem?
[09:18] <babo> dam_ned: how can I save a doc in windows/word format ?
[09:19] <dam_ned> GeorgeDutch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats (search for itunes)
[09:19] <elfstone> E_Presly: when i type glxinfo it says that glx is not loaded or something like that
[09:19] <shadok> sladen: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/68550
[09:19] <dam_ned> babo: select a different format in the save as dialog
[09:19] <sladen> GeorgeDutch: I believe you can run the Windows iTunes under 'wine'.  Or grab 'ltunes'
[09:19] <babo> dam_ned: which format ?
[09:19] <sladen> GeorgeDutch: or just use a Linux-based music player!
[09:19] <dam_ned> babo: .doc
[09:19] <shadok> sladen: I'll be more precise after a sleep , i'm already late :) have a good day/night :)
[09:19] <elfstone> E_Presly: i installed the nvidia-glx-legacy, and changed the driver from "nv" to "nvidia"
[09:19] <boink> is ltunes a linux based thing for itunes?
[09:20] <sladen> babo: File->Save As->'.doc'
[09:20] <bawnpa> `paul
[09:20] <frederick85> boink: amarok
[09:20] <AkumAPRIME> man, automatix made my life a Thousand times better
[09:20] <C-O-L-T> can I make a rollback from edgy to dapper?
[09:20] <frederick85> boink: gtkpod I think too
[09:20] <boink> COLT: no
[09:21] <E_Presly> elfstone: Oh I see, gears doesnt work for me but it did on dapper, thats all I know, sorry.
[09:21] <rowanjl> Just wondering where people not from Europe and the USA are supposed to get Ubuntu CDs... anyone here from Australia?
[09:21] <`paul> yes? @bawnpa
[09:21] <niksavel> HOW is this possible I get a conflict with a program that isn't even installed???  libmpeg-dev is a conflict when I want to install kdemultimedia-dev
[09:21] <frederick85> rowanjl: i'm from Australia
[09:21] <boink> Rowanjl: shipit.ubuntu.com
[09:21] <elfstone> E_Presly: on dapper it was working but i upgraded to edgy and it doesnt
[09:21] <rowanjl> boink: no, thats for the old version
[09:21] <AkumAPRIME> can you DL and burn stuff in Australia? whatre you in the dreamtime?
[09:22] <foof00> anyone need help?
[09:22] <firebird619> sladen: now it won't even let me login. When I type the password and press enter, it beeps and takes away the login part and goes back to a screen where the last thing says Reloading Postfix configuration.
[09:22] <boink> shipit will only give out dapper for the near future
[09:22] <bawnpa> `paul is this with apache2 or apache 1.3
[09:22] <frederick85> rowanjI: just download
[09:22] <boink> it's LTS, that's why
[09:22] <Karark> ok, found a edgy customization guide on forum and ubuntu-multimedia-gnome with aptitude is giving me a score of -1
[09:22] <`paul> 2
[09:22] <`paul> bawnpa: apache 2
[09:22] <mnepton> foof00: i need lots. but i doubt you have advanced degrees in psychiatry.
[09:22] <rowanjl> I could down load it, but at 3Kb/s, its bound to take several weeks...
[09:22] <foof00> mnepton, emacs therapist
[09:22] <AkumAPRIME> wowow...
[09:22] <GeorgeDutch> wow this is unbelievable the microsoft site thinks that my edgy eft is xp pro werd :O
[09:22] <niksavel> somebody please help
[09:22] <sladen> firebird619: try a different console (Alt-F2)
[09:23] <firebird619> sladen: I haven't entered that command you gave me yet, haven't been able to login to do it.
[09:23] <boink> rowanjl: then wait a while when the servers are less loaded
[09:23] <E_Presly> elfstone: Yes this happend to me also. I searched the forums but I didnt find any help.
[09:23] <sladen> firebird619: has the cursor gone off the bottom of the screen
[09:23] <mnepton> rowanjl: you can get Dapper from ShipIt, or use a torrent or something for Edgy.
[09:23] <rowanjl> boink: thats MY connection speed
[09:23] <niksavel> help me obi-linuxguy, you're my only hope
[09:23] <boink> I see .. your local ubuntu user group then?
[09:23] <bawnpa> what is the full path to the php files in the home folder?
[09:23] <frederick85> is there somewhere I can look at all the edgy packages names and see why they are superior over the old ones
[09:23] <`paul> /home/myfolder/public_html
[09:23] <GeorgeDutch> How do i run and .exe on ubuntu?
[09:24] <elfstone> E_Presly: thats not good, i thought that edgy will be more better tha dapper and first thing and I have a major problem and i dont know how to solve it
[09:24] <`paul> bawnpa: /home/myfolder/public_html
[09:24] <rowanjl> boink: perhaps, but I don't know of any, sort of why I came here :)
[09:24] <GeorgeDutch> i want to install internet explorer 7
[09:24] <bawnpa> can you view files other than php or not at all?
[09:24] <frederick85> GeorgeDutch: hahahaha
[09:24] <GeorgeDutch> can i do that
[09:24] <AlienX> frederick85, i guess you could do a diff on two lists if you have them
[09:24] <boink> rowanjl: your local ubuntu user group would be more help, just join the list and ask :)
[09:24] <foof00> uk.archive.ubuntu.com is the fastest right now
[09:24] <JamesMccloud> GeorgeDutch: try WINE?
[09:24] <fuoco> anyone using bcm43xx with edgy ?
[09:24] <capgadget> Why IE7?  Your nuts.  only way maybe is vmware and install XP in vmware.
[09:24] <momal> Can someone tell me how do I remove everything from my system expect the bear minimun then how to reinstall all edgy stuff for kubuntu-desktop ???
[09:24] <`paul> bawnpa: i created a symbolic link in /var/www but it wont work
[09:24] <AlienX> GeorgeDutch, .exe is for windows
[09:24] <foof00> try changing your apt sources
[09:24] <boink> you know, Ossies are a friendly bunch
[09:24] <mnepton> frederick85: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[09:24] <GeorgeDutch> how does wine work?
[09:24] <rowanjl> what list?
[09:24] <`paul> bawnpa: well i can see the folders and files
[09:24] <JamesMccloud> its basically an emulator, but not. :/
[09:24] <niksavel> pppahllleeease help me, I'm almost done updating to edgy, I just have this one file that is killing my inned child
[09:24] <capgadget> Wine can't do XP maybe IE6
[09:25] <boink> look under mailling lists on www.ubuntu.com
[09:25] <AlienX> momal, you want to format the drive?
[09:25] <`paul> bawnpa: wait ill try to create a plain html file
[09:25] <GeorgeDutch> oh
[09:25] <capgadget> Not yet at least.
[09:25] <mnepton> GeorgeDutch: why run crappy Windows software on lovely Ubuntu? it's like buying a mansion and then wallpapering the place with old copies of Hustler.
[09:25] <foof00> capgadget, wine doesnt do "XP"
[09:25] <firebird619> sladen: yes it had. I restarted the system now and along with the screen that says Failed to start the X Server it also has the login part below, but no cursor to type anything. Nexter to where it says login it has * Reloading Postfix configuration.
[09:25] <dam_ned> rowanjl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam
[09:25] <AlienX> GeorgeDutch, it makes programs think it's running windows.
[09:25] <AlienX> GeorgeDutch, uses all the APIs for windows
[09:25] <rowanjl> dam_ned: thanks
[09:25] <dxdemetriou> when I make update from the beta version to the final, it will becomes stable? or it is better to make the upgrade from Dapper?
[09:25] <momal> AlienX: No i tried to update from dapper to edgy but it wont update so I want to remove all the stuff but the bare minimum because i have data on the drive then reinstall edgy stuff
[09:26] <sladen> firebird619: and what happens if you just type anyway, or switch to another virtual terminal
[09:26] <`paul> bawnpa: i can see text files but if php under my home folder it says
[09:26] <foof00> dxdemetriou, no one ever knows -- all upgrades are indeterminant
[09:26] <AlienX> momal, is your /home directory a seperate partition from your root directory?
[09:26] <firebird619> sladen: its ok now, I switched consoles like you said and I can login now. I am going to try that command you gave me now.
[09:26] <capgadget> If you need IE7 that bad download vmware server for free at vmware.com you caninstall XP from your CD in vmware and run XP and ubuntu at the same time.  Just needs LOTS of mem
[09:26] <`paul> Warning: Unknown(/home/aldee/public_html/test.php): failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0
[09:26] <`paul> Warning: (null)(): Failed opening '/home/aldee/public_html/test.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0
[09:26] <GeorgeDutch> Does fedora come with preconfigured xgl?
[09:26] <momal> AlienX: No
[09:26] <capgadget> This isn't fedora this is ubuntu
[09:26] <foof00> GeorgeDutch, dont think so
[09:26] <bawnpa> careful pasting, 2 lines isnt so bad but if you pate more later use the pastebin
[09:26] <boink> GeorgeDutch: ask on #fedora
[09:26] <dam_ned> rowanjl: you're welcome, you might also want to join #ubuntu-au
[09:26] <sladen> capgadget: there's a script somewhere that downloads IE7 and configures 'wine' to run IE
[09:26] <AlienX> momal, you'll be in a bit of a bind then. Did you read the topic on using apt to upgrade to edgy?
[09:26] <GeorgeDutch> i am just asking its all linux
[09:27] <capgadget> IE7 sladen?  I thought maybe IE6.
[09:27] <JamesMccloud> mnepton: speaking of wallpapering with hustler, can someone help me make a desktop link from /home/desktop to /usr/lib/program/downloads? i tried "create launcher", but it didnt quite work right.
[09:27] <AlienX> GeorgeDutch, could ask in #fedora
[09:27] <GeorgeDutch> wow really
[09:27] <GeorgeDutch> ok thanks
[09:27] <boink> likewise, you don't ask ubuntu questions on #fedore
[09:27] <GeorgeDutch> AlienX:
[09:27] <momal> AlienX: yup tried everything but seems what ever libuim3 is it has screwed it all up
[09:27] <dxdemetriou> foof00, I make the gksu "update-manager -c" and doesn't show me the upgrade. then I put the -d to works, but it says that is the beta version
[09:27] <capgadget> I think I got ie6 to run in crossover office.
[09:27] <foof00> capgadget, if you are already dual-booting windows, no need to reinstall to run it under vmware
[09:27] <AkumAPRIME> hey, is there a way to make Ubuntu change it's wall paper every Xunits of time?
[09:27] <foof00> use RAW disk mode
[09:27] <mnepton> JamesMccloud: what are you trying to accomplish?
[09:27] <Adriano> JamesMccloud: are they both folders?
[09:27] <capgadget> I don't want to take 10 minutes to boot XP.
[09:27] <sladen> JamesMccloud: ~/Desktop is special, that's where your Desktop lives
[09:27] <foof00> dxdemetriou, sudo aptitude update
[09:27] <JamesMccloud> Mnepton: i accidentally made my /home/ folder really, really tiny, and my /usr folder really really large
[09:27] <Chandu> Hi
[09:27] <capgadget> I want to run it in 10 seconds which vmware allows me too.  Just a few things.
[09:28] <sladen> JamesMccloud: you can create a symlink with    ln -s FROM TO
[09:28] <JamesMccloud> and i dont want to repartition. -.-
[09:28] <foof00> AkumAPRIME, yes -- cron job manually or some package i dont know the name of
[09:28] <capgadget> I keep w98se in vmware just to run an old webcam.
[09:28] <bawnpa> `paul, looks like a file permissions issue
[09:28] <sladen> JamesMccloud: eg.  ln -s /usr/lib/program/downloads ./foobar
[09:28] <Karark> ok, can someone give me an apt sources.list where i can DL mplayer?
[09:28] <AlienX> momal, hmm, I'm not sure what to tell you. I'm in the process of doing a dist-upgrade to my system so i don't know what the end result will be until I'm through with it
[09:28] <AkumAPRIME> ty foofoo
[09:28] <Adriano> JamesMccloud: It's usually enough to drag n'drop with Control and Alt pressed
[09:28] <capgadget> Or the yahoo video crap that doesn't want to run on linux in ffx
[09:28] <`paul> bawnpa: ill try to restart my apache2 wait
[09:28] <kinga> Hi there, this should be trivial... How do I mount a floppy from terminal to copy a file? mount /dev/floppy does not seem to work.. :(
[09:28] <jordan> With apt-get autoremove now in edgy, is there any reason to still use aptitude?
[09:28] <Adriano> to create a link to a folder
[09:28] <GeorgeDutch> will Feisty Fog come with preconfigured xgl?
[09:28] <dxdemetriou> foof00, I have done that, and it is the same
[09:28] <firebird619> sladen: I entered that command and it saidxserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customized configuration file: backup in /etc/X11/xorg.cof.20061027022708. What should I do now, restart. It is back at the prompt where I can enter commands, etc.
[09:28] <boink> Feisty Fawn, it will be called :)
[09:28] <GeorgeDutch> oh
[09:28] <GeorgeDutch> sorry
[09:29] <AlienX> Karark, check in multiuniverse. I think it's in there though I could be wrong
[09:29] <foof00> dxdemetriou, is this dapper?
[09:29] <sladen> GeorgeDutch: feisty will likely have AIGLX, we'll see
[09:29] <mnepton> JamesMccloud: JamesMccloud: look into resize2fs
[09:29] <GeorgeDutch> wow really zomg
[09:29] <mnepton> ooops
[09:29] <boink> and feisty doesn't officially exist either
[09:29] <GeorgeDutch> that would rawk
[09:29] <dxdemetriou> foof00, yes
[09:29] <foof00> dxdemetriou, you want to upgrade to edgy?
[09:29] <dxdemetriou> foof00, yes
[09:29] <Karark> AlienX, i have enabled all repos and even added seveas.imbrandon (something i found on ubuntuforums) and nothing has it
[09:30] <sladen> firebird619: try  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:30] <AlienX> Karark, hmm, did you try plf?
[09:30] <foof00> dxdemetriou, sudo sed -i 's/dapper/edgy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgade && aptitude dist-upgade
[09:30] <Karark> AlienX, no... will search it now
[09:30] <GeorgeDutch> Am i still allowed to ask question in here about ubuntu when i am on xp pro?
[09:30] <KenSentMe> Karark: have you run sudo apt-get update after youe updated your sources.list?
[09:30] <Karark> KenSentMe, yes i have
[09:30] <mnepton> Karark: what kernel do you have? 386? 686? k7?
[09:30] <dxdemetriou> foof00, I had this problem from breezy to dapper for days, and I made the -d command there
[09:30] <sladen> foof00: dist-upgrade
[09:30] <Atomiku> I'm using this tutorial here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies to install ubuntu without using cdrom, netinstall etc... I've got GRUB bootloader onto floppy and ive got a spare hard drive on the downstairs computer all ready to partition with acronis. But im a little stuck...
[09:30] <ndlovu> is there some way to resume a download with Firefox, or should I use some other download app?
[09:30] <Karark> mnepton, generic
[09:31] <firebird619> sladen: brought me back to the screen that says Failed to start the X server
[09:31] <foof00> dxdemetriou, run the command i gave you
[09:31] <fuoco> does gcjwebplugin work in edgy ?
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> GeorgeDutch: Yes, but it may be more difficult to help you through something if you can't try things people suggest.
[09:31] <Atomiku> ive made 2 ext3 paritions, a 800mb one for the iso to go in, and one for ubuntu to be installed in
[09:31] <LedStyle> Why i cant copy files bigger than 4GB to a FAT partition?
[09:31] <mnepton> Karark: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[09:31] <foof00> ndlovu, wget -c http://my.com/file
[09:31] <Atomiku> How should I copy the contents inside the iso to this spare ext3 partition?
[09:31] <boink> FAT32 can only take files of 2gb
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> LedStyle: That's a limitation of the FAT32 filesystem.
[09:31] <boink> that's why microsoft doesn't use it anymore.
[09:32] <LedStyle> So how can i copy a DVD iso?
[09:32] <Karark> mnepton, E: Package mozilla-mplayer has no installation candidate
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> boink: FAT32's limit is 4, FAT16's limit was 2.
[09:32] <ndlovu> foof00, thanks - if the download times out will it resume if I use the same command again?
[09:32] <boink> don't use FAT32 :_
[09:32] <mnepton> LedStyle: reformat that fat32 to ext3 and then use the ext3 driver for Windows.
[09:32] <boink> tony: ta
[09:32] <momal> can anyone tell me how to get the output from apt-get into a file so i can get a copy of the errors
[09:32] <foof00> ndlovu, yup
[09:32] <JamesMccloud> Sladen: just tried the command you told me to. it seemed to take it okay, and i double-checked my spelling, but nothing appeared after hitting F5, which i assume is refresh.
[09:32] <LedStyle> mnepton, were can i find this driver fpr ext3?
[09:32] <ndlovu> foof00, great!
[09:32] <mnepton> LedStyle: http://fs-driver.sf.net
[09:32] <sladen> JamesMccloud: ls -l ~/WHATEVERYOUCALLEDIT
[09:32] <foof00> ndlovu, you writinga script to pound the download servers?
[09:33] <LedStyle> mnepton, tks
[09:33] <Atomiku> ive got two paritions on a hard drive, how can I copy the contents of the ubuntu iso into one of the paritions, then load up the installer from the hard drive via GRUB?
[09:33] <LedStyle> mnepton, error 404
[09:33] <mnepton> Karark: so the package exists, it seems you just have some apt woes.
[09:33] <ndlovu> foof00, it'll be more manual than that, but I'm anticipating that it won't work first time...
[09:33] <foof00> Atomiku, why not burn it to CD?
[09:33] <mnepton> LedStyle: http://fs-driver.org
[09:33] <mnepton> LedStyle: sorry
[09:33] <momal> can anyone tell me how to get the output from apt-get into a file so i can get a copy of the errors
[09:33] <Atomiku> foof00: because I cant :P
[09:34] <foof00> Atomiku, no cd?
[09:34] <LedStyle> mnepton, but its showind ext2 driver. Isnt a problema?
[09:34] <Karark> mnepton, that package is not listed in synaptic either... so i dont think it does exist
[09:34] <LedStyle> mnepton, or its just the journaling?
[09:34] <Atomiku> foof00: plus my old computer wont boot CDs
[09:34] <foof00> Atomiku, the disc is in a certain format, not sure how to make the ISO boot from grub or if it is even possible
[09:34] <Atomiku> yeah
[09:34] <Atomiku> theres a tutorial but
[09:34] <Atomiku> im doing it a little bit different
[09:34] <Atomiku> instead of using a small floppy linux distro im using a spare windows PC
[09:34] <foof00> Atomiku, link?
[09:35] <Atomiku> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies
[09:35] <foof00> Atomiku, you want to install Ubuntu from Linux?
[09:35] <foof00> i mean from within Windows?
[09:35] <Atomiku> foof00: well...
[09:35] <osske> xubuntu works nice ;)
[09:35] <Atomiku> i just want to install linux without using cdrom or net install
[09:35] <osske> thanks ubuntuteam.
[09:35] <AkumAPRIME> how do I kill a process. It's locked on me, it must die
[09:35] <momal> can anyone tell me how to get the output from apt-get into a file so i can get a copy of the errors
[09:35] <RockClimber> hello, 2 quick questions, is the install CD also a live CD? secondly can you burn a CD iso to a DVD (I don't have any CD-Rs around)?
[09:35] <Atomiku> but im doin gis copying the install ISO to a hard drive, then boot the install ISO from the harddrive with GRUB
[09:36] <osske> RockClimber, yes its also a liveCD, yes you can burn a CD-image into a DVD.
[09:36] <Atomiku> im just a little stuck because I dont know how to copy the iso over or what file system to partition the hard drive to
[09:36] <Atomiku> im assuming EXT3
[09:36] <Terminus> AkumAPRIME: kill -9 $pid or killall -9 $app_name
[09:36] <Atomiku> oh nvm,
[09:36] <Atomiku> lemme take a shot at this
[09:36] <Karark> can someone confirm that mplayer or mozilla-mplayer is still in the repos?
[09:36] <Atomiku> ill do some hardcore googling
[09:36] <Atomiku> cya
[09:36] <Terminus> AkumAPRIME: if that doesn't take care of it, it's a zombie and you have to reboot to get rid of it.
[09:36] <elfstone> Karark: yes it is
[09:37] <foof00> Karark, aptitude install gmplayer
[09:37] <RockClimber> ooske, thanks (twice)
[09:37] <AkumAPRIME> ty Terminus
[09:37] <elfstone> Karark: if you mean the edgy eft repos of course :)
[09:37] <mezga0153> hi, anybody knows why i'm getting /etc/gdm/Xsession: Executing /usr/bin/gnome-session failed, will try to run x-terminal-emulator" in my .xsession-errors after i upgraded to edgy?
[09:37] <mezga0153> If I try to run gnome-session manually i get this error: (nautilus:4978): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Failed to open session DBUS connection: Unable do determine the address of the message bus
[09:37] <Karark> elfstone, i do mean edgy and i am having so much trouble getting multimedia up
[09:37] <Terminus> AkumAPRIME: you're welcome.
[09:37] <duncanm> is compiz part of edgy?
[09:37] <mezga0153> tried apt-get remove dbus --purge && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but it didnt help :(
[09:37] <foof00> Karark, enable your universe/multiverse
[09:37] <Karark> foof00, they are
[09:37] <Xaphoo> I wish xchat had true transparency
[09:37] <duncanm> i don't really want beryl, i just want the default thing from edgy
[09:37] <foof00> Karark, did you update?
[09:37] <Karark> foof00, yes
[09:38] <olaef> anyone else running xubuntu? :)
[09:38] <foof00> Karark, let me ssh into yer box ,,, this is frustating!  it should work
[09:38] <elfstone> Karark: youll succed in a matter of time, but the hardcore is getting the geforce 2 Ti accelation :P
[09:38] <Xaphoo> have there been any updates today?
[09:38] <dxdemetriou> foof00, it says E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied) E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[09:38] <Xaphoo> I haven't gotten any
[09:38] <foof00> Xaphoo, use XGL+compiz
[09:38] <Karark> foof00, sorry but no
[09:38] <foof00> dxdemetriou, sudo rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[09:38] <Xaphoo> foof00, I am using it, but xchat doesn't have true transparency the way the terminal does
[09:39] <lazzareth> Gday, How do i go about sending a file to my phone via bluetooth? The most i can do right now is activate the 'Remote Control"
[09:39] <olaef> what is XGL and compiz?
[09:39] <olaef> two different things?
[09:39] <Xaphoo> I have beryl running nicely
[09:39] <Roberto> hello :)
[09:39] <Xaphoo> speeds up the computer
[09:39] <foof00> lazzareth, you want btftp
[09:39] <lazzareth> Ill got right ahead and install that then
[09:39] <dxdemetriou> foof00, the same
[09:39] <Xaphoo> have there been any updates today?
[09:40] <Xaphoo> I've gotten nothing and I am wondering if my sources.list is ok
[09:40] <lazzareth> foof00 not in the ubuntu repo's?
[09:40] <Xaphoo> or whatever else
[09:40] <Karark> foof00, it seems that update-manager borked my sources.list and took out multiverse... got it now
[09:40] <foof00> lazzareth, aptitude install obexftp
[09:40] <lazzareth> ok
[09:40] <Karark> though universe was still there
[09:40] <Terminus> olaef: XGL is X with openGL. compiz is the window manager.
[09:40] <lazzareth> foof00 Ok downloading
[09:41] <olaef> Terminus, ok . thanks. and what is beryl? :o
[09:41] <Xaphoo> compiz is old though, beryl is the version that is being worked on
[09:41] <Terminus> olaef: beryl is a fork of compiz.
[09:41] <olaef> alrighy.
[09:41] <Terminus> olaef: everybody seems to be using beryl more than compiz nowadays. =)
[09:41] <dxdemetriou> foof00, maybe the repos I have to not updated? I tried the cy.archive.. and the global
[09:41] <olaef> so, will a nice configuration of XGL make my windowmanager run more smooth?
[09:41] <Xaphoo> installing beryl was completely painless for me
[09:41] <wiz> How can I make a module load on boot?
[09:42] <printk> yes beryl is nice
[09:42] <Xaphoo> it was easy with edgy + nvidia beta... no configuration necessary, just the installation of some packages
[09:42] <Terminus> olaef: it'll give you all the 3D coolness
[09:42] <rausb0> wiz: edit /etc/modules
[09:42] <tabias> I just download et (the game). Then I've put the file in a dir (chmod 777). Then I open console, go to the dir of the file. Type: et-linux-2.60.x86.run and then the console tells me the command is not found
[09:42] <printk> and I like running beryl with Gnome, because gnome-terminal gets true transparency with a compiz wm
[09:42] <JamesMccloud> Sladen: i figured it out. the default name for the desktop folder is "Desktop", i was typing in "desktop"
[09:42] <Terminus> tabias: ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[09:42] <Xaphoo> printk me too, I love the terminal
[09:42] <Xaphoo> I wish xchat had true transparency that way
[09:42] <olaef> will XGL take more advantage out of my gfx-card, what probably X isnt doing right now.
[09:42] <olaef> ?
[09:42] <printk> tabias: throw a "./" infront of it
[09:43] <liwi> hi. how to update to 6.10 by cd-rom?
[09:43] <rausb0> tabias: type: ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[09:43] <Xaphoo> but it just has that background-redrawing trick, like the gnome-terminal has without edgy
[09:43] <Terminus> olaef: yes, it'll take advantage of your gfx card
[09:43] <tabias> beu, now it is saying permission denied
[09:43] <Xaphoo> olaef, yes...
[09:43] <olaef> sounds interesting.
[09:43] <Xaphoo> olaef: beryl makes my desktop run *faster* because it takes advantage of the graphics card instead of cpu
[09:43] <wiz> thanks rausb0
[09:43] <rausb0> tabias: chmod 755 et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[09:43] <Terminus> tabias: try chmod 0755 $foo; ./$foo
[09:44] <Xaphoo> olaef: I used this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851&highlight=beryl  ... it's good if you have an nvidia card
[09:44] <tabias> tnx, did the trick
[09:44] <olaef> thank you Xaphoo.
[09:44] <olaef> will look at it.
[09:44] <printk> olaef: also search for "BerylOnEdgy" at wiki.ubuntu.com for a good guide
[09:44] <beu> tabias, :o
[09:44] <Terminus> anybody running beryl on a geforce2? will that work?
[09:44] <beu> okay?
[09:44] <Xaphoo> it's really easy, it takes just a couple minutes to isntall if you use those repos
[09:44] <beu> :)
[09:44] <olaef> will I be able running XGL and beryl on my Geforce 2 MX 400 :D
[09:45] <olaef> 32mbyte ram.
[09:45] <Xaphoo> no idea :)
[09:45] <Xaphoo> I woudl think so though
[09:45] <olaef> well. its nvidia though :)
[09:45] <olaef> yeap.
[09:45] <Terminus> olaef: we have the same gfx card, except i have 64mb. =)
[09:45] <Xaphoo> I mean it's not all that intense compared to any 3d game
[09:45] <Xaphoo> all it's rendering is a cube and some transparency and blur
[09:46] <olaef> ok
[09:46] <dxdemetriou> Maybe I'll try with the -d to the command for upgrade. nothing else works here :(
[09:46] <JamesMccloud> #ubuntu: so long, and thanks for all the fish. now im off to google to take fishing lessons. :)
[09:46] <tabias> great, now the game seems to be installed, now the game is not running :@
[09:46] <Karark> What happened to the 'Disks' program? Or what is a GUI disk mounting prog?
[09:46] <aardfox> This is interesting... randomly my active window, whether it be firefox or a file browser will close
[09:46] <aardfox> I'm not liking edgy eft so far
[09:46] <liwi> how to update to 6.10 by cd-rom?
[09:46] <bawnpa> gparted ?
[09:47] <Karark> bawnpa, ah i think that was it, thanks
[09:47] <aardfox> Edgy Eft is the name of the new ubuntu update right?
[09:47] <bawnpa> not sure what you mean but probably :)
[09:48] <olaef> but hey, beryl is just a window manager, just like gnome and KDE?
[09:48] <olaef> but suited for XGL.
[09:48] <Terminus> olaef: gnome and kde are DEs. beryl is like metacity.
[09:48] <TheFuzzball> what is going to be the next Kubuntu after Edgy?
[09:48] <printk> gnome and KDE aren't wm.  gnome uses metacity and kde uses.. i forget, kwin?  Basically beryl just replaces the wm
[09:48] <printk> the whole enivornment together is gnome or KDE
[09:49] <olaef> ok
[09:49] <skiss666> hello
[09:49] <blazemonger> hello folks
[09:49] <blazemonger> finally edgy is out
[09:49] <olaef> icewm is more like a WM.
[09:49] <foof00> liwi, put in cdrom, then run the cdrom-upgrade script o something like that
[09:49] <tabias> enemy territory doesn't have the right fps (although I installed the nvidia drivers succesfully). It seems that it isn't using the opengl drivers
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[09:50] <rausb0> tabias: is GL working at all? did you check with glxinfo?
[09:50] <Terminus> !ops
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[09:50] <numist> he's gone
[09:50] <Terminus> bah...
[09:50] <numist> hehe
[09:50] <Terminus> sorry ops. missed it.
[09:50] <_azrael> What package can convert svg to eps?
[09:50] <numist> if you look closely, an op got him
[09:51] <timhaughton> I've done a new install of Edgy - I'm trying to add the multimedia support. I'm following the W32 guide, but it can't find any candidates for W32Codecs. Anyone know what's wrong?
[09:51] <Xaphoo> I'm getting this error when I do anythign with apt: http://pastebin.ca/224177  Can someone help?
[09:51] <foof00> _azrael, scribus?
[09:51] <foof00> timhaughton, you need to wgte those and install manually
[09:52] <tabias> the glxinfo is telling me all sorts of stuff. Don't really can confirm if it is the right stuff or not
[09:52] <_azrael> foof00:Acquiring, any special guidelines on use, or is it self-explanatory?
[09:52] <Terminus> numist: yeah, and i was way behind. >_<
[09:52] <numist> no worries
[09:52] <rausb0> tabias: first line of glxinfo should say "direct rendering: yes"
[09:52] <foof00> _azrael, not sure if it even works -- might work
[09:53] <tabias> so it does
[09:53] <shadok> sladen: I just replied to you on launch pad, 'later :)
[09:53] <eva> hello i am useing grip and i would like to know how to change the destination foler when i rip anyone kows how to do
[09:53] <Terminus> tabias: try glxgears. if it shows you gears, it's working
[09:53] <dxdemetriou> It's only me that the gksu "update-manager -c" don't show for upgrade?
[09:53] <rausb0> tabias: then i don't know. i don't use 3rd party software on my box. only stuff from the official repositories.
[09:54] <tabias> it is showing me gears (but crappy onces)
[09:54] <Terminus> timhaughton: try using Seveas' edgy repos
[09:54] <foof00> _azrael, yup it is easy
[09:54] <foof00> _azrael, use import then export
[09:54] <Terminus> timhaughton: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:54] <foof00> _azrael, svg toeps
[09:54] <timhaughton> Terminus: OK thanks.
[09:55] <olaef> difference between aiglx and xgl?
[09:55] <Terminus> timhaughton: you're welcome
[09:55] <ziabice> re all
[09:55] <dxdemetriou> I started the upgrade with gksu "update-manager -c -d" and I hope to be ok :(
[09:55] <Terminus> olaef: aiglx is indirect gl developed by RH. xgl is b novell.
[09:55] <timhaughton> Oh crumbs. I'm trying to get my encrypted (dmcrypt) disk back. /dev/mapper isn't there. Help :)
[09:55] <olaef> Ok.
[09:55] <foof00> timhaughton, muahhaa
[09:56] <foof00> timhaughton, the problems of encrypted file systems!
[09:56] <Terminus> olaef: aiglx is supposed to be the better way of doing it but is nowhere near as useable as XGL as of the moment.
[09:56] <dshot> XGL is a bit of a hog
[09:57] <eva> anyone useing grip here
[09:57] <dshot> or at least I found it to be
[09:57] <foof00> Terminus, yeah and the GNU microkernel was supposed to be the right way, still waiting on that... heh
[09:57] <phire> dshot: A bit?
[09:57] <_azrael> foof00: Thanks. I wish there was a command line mode so I could use it in the script, but this will work.
[09:57] <dshot> =P
[09:57] <foof00> _azrael, there is
[09:57] <E_Presly> Hey, Im buying a new usb mouse, a simple one just 2 buttons and a scrollweel, does anyone know how to find out if it works in ubuntu?
[09:57] <Terminus> foof00: just mentioning what i know. or i think i know. =D
[09:57] <john> join #ubuntu-cn
[09:57] <Rock_Star> why is my firefox using 80% of my cpu?? i only have like 6 tabs opend
[09:57] <Rock_Star>  is opera better on using less CPU?
[09:58] <mnepton> E_Presly: any 3-button mouse with wheel should "just work"
[09:58] <Terminus> E_Presly: well, i've got a logitech here that works fine. =)
[09:58] <foof00> _azrael, if not easy to do -- probably could whip up some gimp scripts
[09:58] <dshot> E_Presly: I have an 8-button mouse that works wonderfully, so you should be perfectly fine =P
[09:58] <dxdemetriou> Can anybody tell me, the update-manager what other do except to change the sources.list?
[09:58] <foof00> Rock_Star, do you want ads?
[09:58] <foof00> Rock_Star, are you on myspace by any chance?
[09:58] <Terminus> foof00: opera doesn't have ads anymore.
[09:59] <mnepton> the Trackman Marble has been my preferred pointing device for like 10 years. if anyone cares.
[09:59] <rausb0> E_Presly: all usb mice i have tested so far worked fine. usb hid protocol is a standard, and hopefully all usb mice comply to that.
[09:59] <Rock_Star> foof00, ads?? no im not on my space
[09:59] <foof00> myspace is w3c compatible :-)
[09:59] <_azrael> foof00: Not worth that much of your time. I'm just writing a script that generates visual representations of data structures. It outpus to svg, but some other people want eps
[09:59] <Arhane> mm
[09:59] <Terminus> Rock_Star: well, opera does seem to be lighter but firefox deals with bad webpages better. =)
[09:59] <dshot> I enjoy my Logitech MX518 + funcpad
[09:59] <foof00> _azrael, oh no, not my time -- yours!
[09:59] <Rock_Star> Terminus, okej :D
[09:59] <mnepton> Rock_Star: you could use w3m ;)
[09:59] <john> hello everyone
[09:59] <Terminus> Rock_Star: use the canonical repo if you want it. =)
[09:59] <DaGame> Hi, I'm trying to partition my hard disk with fdisk. However I have NO idea what "c   toggle the dos compatibility flag" does? I have searched the internet and not found a single defination :(
[09:59] <_azrael> foof00: Ah. :P Sorry.
[09:59] <john> bitch
[10:00] <rausb0> mnepton: w3m rocks
[10:00] <Terminus> Rock_Star: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[10:00] <john> hello everybitch
[10:00] <mnepton> john: any chance of you getting a maturity transplant?
[10:00] <Rock_Star> Terminus, cool
[10:00] <E_Presly> mnepton, Terminus, rausb0: Thanks!
[10:00] <eva> nikin thanks for the help yesterday i did make it at last
[10:01] <foof00> _azrael, inkscape has a command line mode
[10:01] <mnepton> E_Presly: you in the US?
[10:01] <john> i am sorry i typed the wrong word
[10:01] <Xaphoo> stupid seveas... 403 forbidden he tells me
[10:01] <_azrael> foof00: Thanks.
[10:01] <foof00> _azrael, inkscape -E
[10:01] <mnepton> Xaphoo: do not take Seveas' name in vain. Ubugtu gets pouty.
[10:01] <E_Presly> mnepton: No. Im in Sweden.
[10:02] <eva> anyone know how to set the folder in grip
[10:02] <olaef> Terminus, priv. message.
[10:02] <foof00> edgy updates should be done over bittorrent -- this is ridiculous!
[10:02] <Terminus> olaef: what?
[10:02] <olaef> see private message.
[10:02] <liwi> .hi. how to upgrade 6.06 to 6.10 with cdrom?
[10:02] <Xaphoo> lol :)
[10:02] <john> is here any chinese ???
[10:02] <Terminus> olaef: i haven't gotten anything from you. and PMs are not allowed for unregistered nicks.
[10:02] <foof00> liwi, see edgyupgrades
[10:02] <Noah0504> What's the proper way to set up bcm43x-fwcutter?
[10:02] <eva> anyone know how to set the downloadfolder in grip
[10:03] <olaef> Terminus, oh ok.
[10:03] <dshot> sudo apt-cdrom add
[10:03] <dshot> liwi
[10:03] <joona> Noah0504: http://joona.kuori.org/ubuntu-powerbook/
[10:03] <olaef> im not registered..
[10:03] <joona> Noah0504: check the airport extreme section
[10:03] <mnepton> E_Presly: these are really nice, and work perfectly with Ubuntu - http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/SE/SV,CRID=2150,CONTENTID=5145
[10:03] <kooldeep> eva: go on config -> encode -> encoder -> encoder file format , and put the folder at the beginning, e.g. ~/music/%A/%d/%n.%x
[10:04] <Noah0504> How do I find the firmware for my card?
[10:04] <liwi> it is not possible to upgrade using desktopcd? only alternate?
[10:04] <foof00> liwi, think you need alternate
[10:04] <Terminus> E_Presly: i have a logitche wheel mouse (M-BJ58) that works nice and fits what you want. i like it a lot. =)
[10:05] <foof00> liwi, just update your apt sources and let it go overnight
[10:05] <eva> kooldeep thanks i will try that
[10:05] <joona> Noah0504: check the url, its got all you need
[10:07] <wangxuan> Is anyone there?
[10:07] <Noah0504> joona: So I can use the same firmware provided on that page?
[10:07] <foof00> yes
[10:07] <E_Presly> mnepton: Haha is that sum alien? Looks cool though. Unfortunatly Im just buying from a local store and they only have 5 models.
[10:07] <joona> Noah0504: yep
[10:07] <joona> most likely
[10:07] <Danis> nu nichego sebe
[10:07] <techtium> I want to install Edgy with the CD But it says that "POint de montage incorect"
[10:07] <Danis> privet narod
[10:07] <Noah0504> joona: Good stuff.  Thanks.
[10:07] <joona> no prob
[10:07] <DaGame> Does anyone have any suggestions about partitioning regarding disk being mounted or not? Is it a bad idea to partition whilst mounted?
[10:08] <foof00> DaGame, i would say so :-)
[10:08] <foof00> DaGame, think about what you are doing!
[10:08] <aardfox> is it possible to set a hotkey to make the cursor dissapear?
[10:08] <liwi> i ran gksu "update-manager -c"  . it will take few minutes. thanks
[10:08] <foof00> aardfox, yes
[10:08] <ehird> Ubuntu survived the night
[10:08] <DaGame> foof00, I am thinking about it.. I can't see the bad though?
[10:08] <ehird> :D
[10:09] <C-O-L-T> hello what is the default color settings at the login window in edgy
[10:09] <tabias> after rebooting the game works fine only the displayrefresh keeps stuck @ 60hz which makes it unplayable for me. How do I change that?
[10:09] <C-O-L-T> ?
[10:09] <aardfox> foof00 how can i do that?
[10:09] <Admiral_Chicago> DaGame: yes, and i don't think you can change an active partition
[10:09] <foof00> aardfox, look at how xkill does it -- replace with a blank image
[10:09] <Adriano> C-O-L-T: very similar to the one in dapper
[10:09] <Adriano> a shade of pink
[10:09] <atlas95> hello, i got a multicolor screen when I press control+alt+F1, i must see a terminal(black screen)
[10:10] <atlas95> I have an ati x1600
[10:10] <atlas95> could you help me please
[10:10] <ehird> atlas95: that's a feature, not a bug
[10:10] <zircx> http://pastebin.com/814142 can someone tell me what this readout means, I'm not sure why it's failed to download..
[10:10] <ehird> :D
[10:10] <yakumo> help do i need to relpace my version of libc6 to install qdvdauthor depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however:  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.
[10:10] <C-O-L-T> Adriano: but I need the background color code you know at Administration - Login Window - Background Color
[10:10] <foof00> atlas95, try a different vga mode
[10:10] <foof00> yakumo, dont do that!
[10:10] <atlas95> ehird: ?
[10:10] <zircx> maybe it's because i changed it from dapper to edgy ..
[10:10] <zircx> when I shouldn't have..
[10:10] <C-O-L-T> Adriano: I changed it and now I don't know the code and can not set to default
[10:11] <aardfox> foof00, there's no hide cursor option anywhere?
[10:11] <ehird> atlas95: ctrl+alt+f* = terminal
[10:11] <rausb0> yakumo: you cannot mix debian and ubuntu packages
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> zircx: hold on let me read it
[10:11] <atlas95> ehird: how to do this?
[10:11] <foof00> aardfox, well all i know is that xkill does it
[10:11] <foof00> aardfox, so it must be possible
[10:11] <zircx> oy
[10:11] <ehird> atlas95: so i suggest you just don't press those keys
[10:11] <atlas95> ehird: noo !!
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> rausb0: well you could but that is not advised at all
[10:11] <zircx> blah ok, sorry
[10:11] <aardfox> foof00 is xkill a command?
[10:11] <atlas95> ehird: you don't understand, i want to have terminal!
[10:11] <rausb0> Admiral_Chicago: thats what i meant
[10:11] <joona> aardfox: yes
[10:11] <ehird> atlas95: oh
[10:11] <atlas95> ehird: i'm not newbie
[10:11] <atlas95> ehird: but terminal bug
[10:11] <ehird> atlas95: i was misunderstanding you :(
[10:11] <timalot> anyone using the snd_intel8x0 module for sound?
[10:11] <ehird> :P
[10:11] <yakumo> what the best way to install qdvdauthor without replacing my libc6?
[10:12] <atlas95> ehird: i think i have a graphic card problem, fglrx...
[10:12] <zircx> basically it's the beerkid link that I added to the source list as part of installing xgl and i changed the last part of the link to 'edgy' instead of 'dapper'
[10:12] <atlas95> or other..
[10:12] <aardfox> joona,foof00 since it's a command can i set a hotkey to turn it off and on?
[10:12] <atlas95> but i don't know what
[10:12] <rausb0> yakumo: install it from the official ubuntu repos
[10:12] <joona> aardfox: sure
[10:12] <Admiral_Chicago> zircx: give me a sec your page is taking forever. oh wait i timeout
[10:12] <joona> but it's not the thing you want to hide your cursor
[10:12] <aardfox> joona, how?
[10:13] <joona> no idea
[10:13] <zircx> paste bin, it's about as reliable as a holy sock when you're shoes are giving ya blisters..
[10:13] <aardfox> once i type xkill can i make it come back by typing xkill again?
[10:13] <atlas95> ehird: any solution ?
[10:13] <rohan> are there any known edgy problems ?! since everytime i use the kubuntu 6.10 live cd, i get a message on the desktop "Kdesktop: The protocol for thee file application died unexpectedly." and my desktop is completely blank, no install or examples icon either !
[10:14] <rohan> and, none of the vt's are working ! they are just displaying some wildly scrolling garble
[10:14] <rohan> some green blocks
[10:14] <ehird> guys, is it suicide to do basically "apt-get install kde-core" "apt-get remove gnome everything-to-do-with-gnome" and what should i use in place with everything to do with gnome? :p (this should remove apps too)
[10:14] <zircx> well I guess, because it's Edgy maybe I should be using synaptic to install xgl? and compiz...
[10:14] <Ironfrost> hi - I'm having trouble installing Edgy from my hard drive; iso-scan is telling me it can't find the install ISO. Can someone help me with this?
[10:14] <ehird> rohan: problems aren't unheard of
[10:14] <Admiral_Chicago> zircx: just PM me with all the output
[10:14] <Ironfrost> I guess that probably the iso has to be in a specific place
[10:14] <zircx> ok
[10:14] <Cale> What would be the simplest way to get reiser 4 filesystem support in edgy?
[10:14] <rohan> ehird: true
[10:15] <bmgz> Help! I upgraded from Dapper using update-manager , The only prolem is I get normal text mode boot and no usplash? I get perfect usplash when restarting/shutdown though?
[10:15] <rohan> but this scrolling vt problem is heard ?
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> rohan: yes the link is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> err no
[10:15] <Ironfrost> or perhaps it is having problems mounting it, because when I try to mount it manually I get a "couldn't setup loop device" error
[10:15] <Cale> I know I could rebuild the kernel with patches, I'm just hoping that there's some simpler solution :)
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems
[10:15] <ehird> rohan: like the desktop No Root System that i got around by nuking my linux partition and making it again in the installer ;)
[10:15] <yakumo> k thnks
[10:15] <rohan> ehird: :D
[10:15] <foof00> aardfox, http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man3/vga_showcursor.3.html
[10:15] <MatthewV> hey all... got a fresh install of edgy, run updates (couldnt find any) and f-spot is segfaulting... every time i try to start it
[10:16] <foof00> MatthewV, amd64?
[10:16] <MatthewV> foof00, no, i386 (P3)
[10:16] <foof00> MatthewV, strace fspot
[10:16] <ehird> messages are going fast and my question gets lost :x
[10:17] <okke> I am running Xubuntu (XFCE4 as WM), and have come this far, I have created session in, this file > /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop. What should the next file that xgl.desktop calls to (startxgl.sh) contain? If I am running XFCE4...
[10:17] <MatthewV> foof00, what part of it do you want? all of it pastebinned?
[10:17] <foof00> foof00, what is the last call before segfault?
[10:17] <bmgz> I get normal text mode boot and no usplash? I get perfect usplash when restarting/shutdown though? I am NOT running 64-bit cpu! (Athlon-xp)
[10:18] <DaGame> What is the best partitioning program to use?
[10:18] <foof00> DaGame, fdisk
[10:18] <foof00> DaGame, if you want GUI, gparted
[10:18] <MatthewV> foof00, would this be it? : futex(0xb78401c4, FUTEX_WAKE, 1
[10:18] <DaGame> man fdisk says it sux
[10:18] <foof00> maybe
[10:18] <Ademan_> why doesn't canonical start shipping computers with ubuntu preloaded?  Right now i'm pretty sure their business model involves taking massive losses on this whole paying for open source development thing
[10:18] <foof00> MatthewV, sounds like a threading problem
[10:18] <foof00> MatthewV, maybe a race condition
[10:19] <aardfox> foof00 i type if show == 2 in the terminal and when i run my game the ubuntu cursor still rides on top of the game's
[10:19] <foof00> foof00, no it is not a command
[10:19] <Jfrench> How do i change my FireFox Icon?
[10:19] <foof00> foof00, you would have to compile your own program to do it
[10:19] <Ademan_> bmgz: reinstall the usplash package, do you get an error "cannot find suitable theme for <insert resolution here>" or something like that?
[10:19] <MatthewV> foof00, when i reinstalled edgy i kept my /home partition intact, although i was running a fully updated edgy prior in installing, just had a few problems.. cause if i read up looks like *could* be some troubles accessing database
[10:19] <bmgz> Ademan_: nope
[10:20] <bmgz> Ademan_: i have reinstalled it already ;(
[10:20] <sladen> Ademan_: I think Canonical would prefer to get /other/ people to ship Ubuntu preloaded and pick up the support revenue
[10:20] <Ademan_> bmgz: well you could always double check that you have a sane /etc/usplash.conf and then run "sudo initramfs -u"
[10:20] <foof00> hrmm
[10:20] <sladen> Ademan_: yes, there has been alot of money gone into Ubuntu, Launchpad and the tools
[10:21] <C-O-L-T> how to get the dapper artwork. I think dapper had a better art
[10:21] <Ademan_> sladen: hrm, but they've got the power to bulk buy, and as we know from system76 its going to take real bulk buys to even MATCH the prices you can get on computers preloaded with windows
[10:21] <`paul> evrytime i issue mysql_connect() i get this Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /home/aldee/public_html/test.php on line 2 help pls
[10:21] <Nox_ville> hello ppl. k. i ndeed some networking help- ive got an ubuntu laptop the needs to connect to a wirless network.. ive tried !wireless but it doens't seem to work.
[10:21] <Mirro> Layout changer doesnt change shit ((( any ideas??
[10:21] <bmgz> Ademan_: i had a full /boot from all the old kernels that where their, so I removed them (all the old kernels) maybe that was the prob
[10:22] <mnepton> Ademan_: you think developing, certifying, and supporting our own hardware supply chain will be a big boost for profits? dude, you do NOT go toe-to-toe with Dell in this business. you lose.
[10:22] <foof00> `paul, mysql_real_connect()
[10:22] <Ademan_> mnepton: you're not going toe, you're undercutting their prices, maybe not immediately, but in the long run you should be able to undercut them significantly
[10:23] <Nox_ville> !gimp
[10:23] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[10:23] <Ademan_> then you win
[10:23] <Cale> Does anyone know whether a (potentially experimental) Ubuntu edgy package exists for Reiser 4 filesystem support?
[10:23] <bmgz> Ademan_: cheers /etc/usplash.conf  res looks a bit too high ;p
[10:23] <Nox_ville> Cale: no.. sorry, tho i think some ppl last night also needed 1..
[10:23] <foof00> Cale, that file system is dead
[10:24] <foof00> Cale, i mean ... its been hacked to bits
[10:24] <mnepton> Ademan_: the key word is "the long run." we don't want to hemmorhage money for 5 years until we can effectively compete with Dell. it makes no sense. our skill set as a company is software. we focus on our core skills.
[10:24] <Cale> foof00: could be, but I have a filesystem which I need access to :)
[10:24] <morpheus8> `paul: make sure you have the php4-mysql or similar package installed
[10:24] <foof00> Cale, you need a resifer4 module?
[10:24] <Cale> yeah
[10:24] <aardfox> foof00, is that python code?
[10:24] <Ademan_> mnepton: but as i said canonical is already taking massive losses, as far as i know they have no revinue up till now (unless some people bought support contracts that I don't know about)
[10:25] <foof00> `paul, use php5 and mysql5 if possible
[10:25] <Ademan_> pretend i spelled revenue correctly lol
[10:25] <Ekinoks> Hi
[10:25] <Cale> foof00: Well, either that or I'll just resign myself to compiling my own kernel, but I'd prefer to avoid that if possible
[10:25] <foof00> Ademan_, no one buys support?
[10:25] <mnepton> Ademan_: all i can say is that you cannot judge what profits have or have not been made. the company does not post financial results.
[10:25] <foof00> Cale, then compile the module then
[10:25] <foof00> aardfox, what code/
[10:25] <tonyyarusso> mnepton: Do they plan to?
[10:26] <mnepton> tonyyarusso: no idea. not my call.
[10:26] <aardfox> foof00: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man3/vga_showcursor.3.html
[10:26] <aardfox> foof00: I seriously don't know what I
[10:26] <aardfox> am supposed to do with that
[10:26] <Nox_ville> i need some networking help- ive got an ubuntu laptop the needs to connect to a wirless network.. ive tried !wireless but it doens't seem to work.
[10:26] <mnepton> i *can* tell you that i am a senior staff member for Canoncial Support, and i am not even *close* to bored.
[10:26] <CarinArr> nox_ville, what type of wireless card?
[10:27] <Ademan_> mnepton: huh, alright then you win :-)
[10:27] <bmgz> Ademan_ : sorry just rebooted, no go ;( what was that you suggested about initram or something?
[10:27] <Ademan_> oh
[10:27] <Ademan_> your changes to /etc/usplash.conf don't take effect untill you run that command :-)
[10:27] <Nox_ville> CarinArr : internal wireless card on hp compaq nw8000..
[10:27] <Ademan_> sudo initramfs -u
[10:27] <bmgz> what was the command again
[10:27] <CarinArr> do you know what card it is?
[10:27] <bmgz> tcherers
[10:27] <CarinArr> intel one?
[10:27] <bmgz> tcheers
[10:28] <bmgz> t6600gt
[10:28] <Ademan_> good luck bmgz
[10:28] <bmgz> nv 6600gt
[10:28] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: checking in device manager now...
[10:28] <bmgz> can that command bork anything?
[10:28] <kelten> I just installed fresh copy of edgy, and first thing I did was follow the instructions from the wiki on installing nvidia drivers. I proceeded to restart X, and got an error saying X cant start.
[10:28] <dshot> mnepton: Sounds like a rewarding company, at least in its mission
[10:29] <mnepton> Ademan_: just because i work for the company doesn't mean i'm omniscient or that my opinions are somehow more worthy than yours (aor anyone else's). i'm a glorified monkey like everyone else. but i really see no advantage to Canonical getting into hardware.
[10:29] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: its a Atheros Communications AR5212 802.11abg NIC
[10:29] <mnepton> Nox_ville: that should be supported by the MadWiFi drivers
[10:29] <det> Nox_ville, madwifi supports that
[10:29] <overrider_> i have something like a usb wireless (umts) adapter, where you can put your simcard inside and then surf the internet. at least you can on windows. what do i have to do to get it to work on ubuntu, if at all?
[10:29] <det> I have the same card
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> mnepton: While you're probably not quite the right contact for this question, you're the one that's here, so I hope you don't mind me asking even if you can't answer:  What's the thinking behind the price of support contracts?  While $250/yr probably makes sense for any sort of corporate deployment, why isn't there something more appropriate for the home user if they wished to purchase support?  (ie. Suse's $50)
[10:29] <kelten> Is there anyway to startup ubuntu without having X start?
[10:29] <Nox_ville> well what do i type to get onto a network called hpsetup?
[10:30] <Ademan_> mnepton: well, the fact that you guys seem to have support contracts kind of ruins my image that canonical is running on mark's excess money
[10:30] <bun-bun> !runlevels
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <bun-bun> !runlevel
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> kelten: Yeah, you can remove gdm from a runlevel, and boot into that level.
[10:30] <mnepton> Ademan_: *no* one in this world has "excess money." ;)
[10:30] <sacker> So im running Live cd to try and get my wireless card to work in laptop, I stopped the gdm and then when i try to restart it it says fail :-( any ideas?
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <kelten> How's that done?
[10:30] <bun-bun> kelten# look up run levels
[10:30] <Ademan_> mnepton: he payed his way into space... lol
[10:31] <Nox_ville> sacker: im also having WiFi problems... ppl are helping me 2 now...
[10:31] <LookTJ> How do i install opera?
[10:31] <CarinArr> nox_ville, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972&highlight=ar5212 that's a thread specially for that card
[10:31] <mnepton> tonyyarusso: that presupposes that Canonical's primary goal is selling contracts to the "ZOMG I CAN'T GET ON AOIL AND MY INTERNET MOUSE HAS A VIRUS!!!11!!" crowd
[10:31] <crimsun> LookTJ: enable the dapper-commercial repo, and install opera.
[10:31] <kelten> Well, I cant get ubuntu to startup to any terminal since it automatically tries to start X, then crashes.
[10:31] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: thanks.. ill check it out...
[10:31] <tristan> hello all, I have a trouble during the upgrade
[10:31] <lotusleaf> mnepton: once that crowd experiences ubuntu, the crowd will dwindle away forever
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> mnepton: Solid point.
[10:31] <bun-bun> so is the edgy release any different from a fully patched edgy rc install?
[10:31] <sacker> nox_ville my wireless card is connected atm, and on the internet just welll its not doing be much good :-P
[10:32] <kelten> What are my options?
[10:32] <LookTJ> crimsun: i have edgy
[10:32] <Ademan_> mnepton: i thought the support contracts were like, businesses, but again i could have misread even more :-)
[10:32] <Nox_ville> sacker: ask det... he might know
[10:32] <crimsun> LookTJ: the repo is precisely identical.
[10:32] <bun-bun> kelten# google runlevels
[10:32] <tristan> it says I cannot install x11-common because /usr/X11R6/bin also belongs to xmgrace package
[10:32] <ehird> question for you guys
[10:32] <tristan> I have done sudo pat-get -f install but it is the same
[10:32] <crimsun> tristan: please uninstall xmgrace first, then resume dist-upgrading
[10:33] <ehird> in ubuntu/firefox, jpeg rendering shows the artifacts much more than windows/firefox did
[10:33] <LookTJ> i enabled all the repos
[10:33] <ehird> any ideas?
[10:33] <tristan> crimsun, done but same trouble
[10:33] <LookTJ> but when i do sudo apt-get install opera
[10:33] <tim167> hello, does anyone know how I prevent ubuntu Dapper from putting the screen to stand-by ? I tried xset s off, xset dpms etc... but it still turns off the monitor after a while
[10:33] <crimsun> tristan: did you --purge xmgrace?
[10:33] <olaef> anyone running xgl + beryl, configured in xubuntu?
[10:33] <lotusleaf> tim167: system->power management ?
[10:33] <crimsun> LookTJ: pastebin the output from ``apt-cache policy opera''
[10:33] <Ademan_> ehird: i can't imagine anything would be noticable, but if it is, its a libjpeg problem, not an ubuntu problem
[10:33] <eva> is all you who are helping here for free or are you working for ubuntu anyway a big thanks to you all
[10:34] <lotusleaf> tim167: system->preferences->power management ?
[10:34] <Mukunda> Anyone else having problems trying to boot the Edgy cd on a Core Duo laptop?
[10:34] <aardfox> Could anyone tell me how to use this code? I need to have the program it would create but I don't know how to create the program. http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man3/vga_showcursor.3.html
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> olaef: #ubuntu-xgl for that
[10:34] <tim167> powermanagement I tried, set everything to 'never', but it doesnt work
[10:34] <Ademan_> eva: most of us are just users who want to give back to the community that helped them get ubuntu up and running :-)
[10:34] <LookTJ> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28623/
[10:34] <tristan> crimsun, yes I've done it
[10:34] <tristan> I've done it with both apt-get and with aptitude
[10:34] <Sublimal-> Anyone who has managed to get their sound to work with a hda-intel card ?
[10:35] <ehird> Ademan_: alright, i just see the main artifact of jpegs (not the blocky thing, it's that weird colour splatter) in ubuntu while i never have in windows
[10:35] <crimsun> tristan: now ``sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade''
[10:35] <ehird> maybe windows does some anti-aliasing tricks
[10:35] <Rondom> aardfox: looks like svgalib
[10:35] <crimsun> Sublimal-: there are known issues with HDA in 6.10.
[10:35] <Sublimal-> I cant get my Ati sb 450 azalia hda-intel card
[10:35] <Ademan_> ehird: prolly not, can you get screenshots of both? (screenshot in a lossless format of course, like png)
[10:35] <cci[RR] us> i am using dapper drake but i cannot upgrade to edgy eft. i tried "update-manager -c -d" but it tells me that ubuntu-desktop is not installed, so it cannot proceed.
[10:35] <aardfox> rondom: what is svgalib?
[10:35] <Ademan_> ehird cause i've never had that problem
[10:35] <Sublimal-> It doest work
[10:35] <LookTJ> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28625/
[10:35] <crimsun> Sublimal-: ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[10:36] <erUSUL> cci[RR] us: install it
[10:36] <ehird> Ademan_: reluctant to shut down ubuntu right now because i've just got it working yesterday but i'll keep it in mind :)
[10:36] <erUSUL> cci[RR] us: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:36] <cci[RR] us> the problem is, it will involve the installation of dapper drake packages, around 400+ of them.
[10:36] <crimsun> LookTJ: right, you don't have dapper-commercial enabled.
[10:36] <cci[RR] us> it's like installing dapper drake again before i can install edgy eft?
[10:36] <Mukunda> So there haven't been any other reports of the Edgy cd not working on core duo laptops?
[10:36] <cci[RR] us> which may invovle anpother 400
[10:37] <tristan> it says for example : libxdmcp6 depends on x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0); however:The version of x11-common on the system is 7.0.0-0ubuntu45
[10:37] <timalot> gnome 2.16 in edgy dosent have much new stuff...whats firefox 2 and gaim 2 like? worth the upgrade
[10:37] <timalot> ?
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: I just got a new desktop computer that has a built in speaker that so far has played system beeps and the little background music from the Win XP Home end-user setup screens (that I refused!); is it possible to play all sounds through that in Ubuntu do you think?
[10:37] <tristan> so it cannot configure libxdmcp6, xutils-dev and xutils
[10:37] <Rondom> aardfox: a library for graphics output on framebuffer
[10:37] <crimsun> LookTJ: ``echo "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" |sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install opera''
[10:37] <LookTJ> in terminal?
[10:37] <crimsun> LookTJ: yes
[10:38] <LookTJ> thanks for helping btw
[10:38] <|Bot|> hello - i try upgrade my ubuntu and i have small problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28624/
[10:38] <cci[RR] us> how do i check whether im on dapper drake or not
[10:38] <Sublimal-> crimsun: 0: Realtek ALC660
[10:38] <crimsun> tristan: did you execute the above command?
[10:38] <aardfox> Bah, I give up...I can play a game with two overlapping cursors I guess
[10:38] <crimsun> Sublimal-: I just recently backported support for that.
[10:38] <Ademan_> ehird: lol, well good luck with it all, you may be right and it just proves i don't have as sharp of an eye as you, i really don't know :-)
[10:39] <tristan> crimsun, yes and that is the answer... :(
[10:39] <Sublimal-> How can i fix this ?
[10:39] <crimsun> Sublimal-: you will need to wait for an errata kernel for Edgy (no ETA), or compile alsa-driver hg on your own.
[10:39] <ehird> Ademan_: I do have rather good eyes suprisingly ;)
[10:39] <Sublimal-> Ok, is there any guide how to do that ?
[10:39] <LookTJ> thanks again crimsun
[10:39] <LookTJ> :)
[10:39] <crimsun> LookTJ: np
[10:39] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: that guide you gave me is for installing a wireless network card... ive got it installed already, i just need help connecting to a network...
[10:39] <crimsun> Sublimal-: there are instructions in the Download section of alsa-project.org
[10:40] <Mirro> anyone who knows Beryl??
[10:40] <Sublimal-> Ok, i'll try that
[10:40] <mista> can anyone tel me how to find out if i have opengl installed and running
[10:40] <tristan> crimsun, it says for example : libxdmcp6 depends on x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0); however:The version of x11-common on the system is 7.0.0-0ubuntu45
[10:40] <timalot> |Bot|: what version?
[10:40] <Ademan_> Mirro: i used beryl for a while
[10:40] <crimsun> tristan: dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop |grep ^ii |awk '{print $3}'
[10:40] <Mirro> anyone who got Beryl??
[10:40] <Mirro> ok
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> Mirro: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:40] <mista> ME
[10:40] <|Bot|> timalot# edgy
[10:40] <CarinArr> nox_ville, ooooh.. have you tried using network-admin?
[10:40] <Sublimal-> Im running 6.06 now, uppgrade to 6.10 ?
[10:40] <Ademan_> Mirro: i don't reccomend using it though, its still in a very early stage
[10:40] <ehird> i'll ask because the channel is quiet right now, is "apt-get install kde-core" then "apt-get remove gnome <command to remove all gnome apps>" dangerous or will it give me what i intend? (i.e. a lightweight kubuntu basically)
[10:40] <Nox_ville> yes.. i don't know what to set to what...
[10:40] <timalot> |Bot|: ok hold on
[10:40] <tristan> crimsun, no pachake for ubuntu desktop (I'm running KDE)
[10:40] <Ademan_> Mirro: but what's your question?
[10:41] <crimsun> tristan: then s/ubuntu/kubuntu/
[10:41] <CarinArr> nox_ville, well if you go to properties on your wireless card, you should get a list of available networks
[10:41] <tristan> crimsun, ???
[10:41] <Mirro> Ademan_, yea i know, i experience it now )) after installing xgl I cant change my layout with normal tool
[10:41] <crimsun> tristan: dpkg -l kubuntu-desktop |grep ^ii |awk '{print $3}'
[10:41] <Ademan_> Mirro: Xgl is evil on top of that lol
[10:41] <Sublimal-> crimsun: it isnt working in 6.10 either ?
[10:41] <Mirro> Ademan_, I change it, but qwerty keeps staying....
[10:41] <Nox_ville> well there are like 5 "available" networks.. yet from my windows pc, i can only see 1
[10:41] <Sublimal-> Is it a known bug ?
[10:41] <tristan> crimsun, ok, answer is 0.86
[10:42] <crimsun> Sublimal-: not likely, unless it's just a mixer problem. It's a known issue for certain IDs.
[10:42] <timalot> |Bot|: according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=xserver-xgl&version=edgy&arch=i386 ... that file SecurityPolicy is in the xserver-xgl package... maybe remove it then install it again after upgrade
[10:42] <crimsun> Sublimal-: can you pastebin your ``amixer'' output?
[10:42] <Sublimal-> crimsun: yes
[10:42] <Sublimal-> w8
[10:42] <|Bot|> timalot# thnx
[10:42] <Mirro> Ademan_, and first everything worked, but after a reboot Beryl manager doesnt work and so does Theme manager
[10:42] <timalot> |Bot|: np
[10:43] <us-1bach-abc> yeeee
[10:43] <Ademan_> Mirro: oh, hrm keyboard stuff almost makes me think it might be Xgl's fault, which further proves my point that Xgl is evil lol
[10:43] <tristan> crimsun, should I try to reboot and run a distupgrade in command line only?
[10:43] <sacker> Woot my Wireless card pretty much worked out of the Box :D
[10:43] <ictoanthbty> has anyone gotten eciadsl working in edgy?
[10:43] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: yes, but I need more info, like which codec is used.
[10:43] <crimsun> tristan: shouldn't make a difference
[10:43] <mezga0153> hi, anybody knows why i'm getting /etc/gdm/Xsession: Executing /usr/bin/gnome-session failed, will try to run x-terminal-emulator" in my .xsession-errors after i upgraded to edgy?
[10:43] <mezga0153> If I try to run gnome-session manually i get this error: (nautilus:4978): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Failed to open session DBUS connection: Unable do determine the address of the message bus
[10:44] <Sublimal-> crimsun: http://pastebin.se/4218
[10:44] <mezga0153> tried apt-get remove dbus --purge && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but it didnt help :(
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: You mean for the speaker, or for any particular thing I want to play?
[10:44] <Mirro> Ademan_, any ideas to solve this prob?
[10:44] <tim167> can anyone help me turn off 'put display to sleep' on Dapper, I tried system>preferences>powermanagement... also tried xset s off, xset dpms etc...but display still goes to sleep
[10:44] <Ademan_> Mirro: what video card do you have?
[10:44] <tristan> crimsun, I don't understand because xmgrace is no more installed and the bin folder in /usr/X11R6 is no more...
[10:44] <crimsun> Sublimal-: right, you'd need the patches in current hg. It's not fixed in 6.06.1 or 6.10.
[10:44] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: any ideas?
[10:45] <Sublimal-> current hg ?
[10:45] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: what's the difference?
[10:45] <Isyth> heyhey everyone
[10:45] <Mirro> Ademan_, ati mobility x600. the point is, that everything worked b4
[10:45] <Isyth> I have a little question
[10:45] <crimsun> Sublimal-: hg, aka Mercurial, is the revision control system used
[10:45] <Sublimal-> Okej, i see
[10:45] <Sublimal-> So, the only way to make it work is to compile it myself ?
[10:45] <CarinArr> nox_ville, you will need to know what the network you want to connect to is called then.. windows doesn't always show all available networks by default
[10:45] <crimsun> currently, yes.
[10:45] <ripper> any body have problems installing edgy on an hp-8705W desktop?
[10:46] <MasseR> Mirro: What's the problem?
[10:46] <Ademan_> Mirro: before beryl? or before Xgl? or both?
[10:46] <Sublimal-> crimsun: ok! thanx for your help!
[10:46] <ripper> i cant seem to get the install cd to boot.
[10:46] <Sublimal-> ill try compile it
[10:46] <Ademan_> MasseR: can't change keyboard layout i believe
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: I don't know (that being the problem I guess).  My goal would be to make this the default output, rather than the headphone jack.  What info do I need to look up, and where would I find it, for you?
[10:46] <Sublimal-> but, i think i will re-install 6.10
[10:46] <Nox_ville> well all 5 of the networks "availible" are named the same name.... and i can't change those names...
[10:46] <MasseR> Ah
[10:46] <Isyth> Do any of you know if it's possible to run a version of linux on a handheld/palmtop pc?
[10:46] <duncanm> what package do i need to install to view dvds with totem?
[10:46] <CarinArr> nox_ville, oh, just try one of them then
[10:46] <tristan> crimsun, so maybe bin is still stocked in memory... since it seems to see it while it doesn't exist anymore
[10:47] <duncanm> it worked in dapper, now that i upgraded to edgy, it stopped working
[10:47] <tim167> ripper: did you set your boot-sequence ?
[10:47] <Mirro> Ademan_, before rebooting beryl worked
[10:47] <ripper> yes
[10:47] <ripper> it goes through booting, and stops
[10:47] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: link me to the data sheet for whatever codec your hardware uses.
[10:47] <ripper> its almost like its going into kernel panic
[10:47] <Mirro> MasseR, after installing xgl I cant change my layout with normal . I change it, but qwerty keeps staying. I installed Beryl, first everything worked, but after a reboot Beryl manager doesnt work and so does Theme manager. I got Ati mobility x600 if it might help.
[10:47] <CarinArr> nox_ville, i get that at work as well, and picking a random one of them normally works
[10:47] <crimsun> tristan: did you pastebin the command and error?
[10:48] <Ademan_> Mirro: so beryl isnt working? i added start-beryl-manager to my session's startup programs, is that what you did?
[10:48] <Mirro> no, i do it manually
[10:48] <Ademan_> Mirro: might wanna try that
[10:49] <Ademan_> actually, i had this: beryl-manager --force-window-manager --force-decorator    but still
[10:49] <ictoanthbty> has anyone gotten eciadsl working in edgy?
[10:49] <eva> when i am trying to rig in grip i get a warning "invalid encoder executable" anyone know what to do
[10:49] <Ademan_> Mirro: whats not working about beryl though?
[10:50] <tristan> crimsun, no. It's in French....
[10:50] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: well if i choose one.. network-admin only shows an IPv6 address, not an IPv4... do i manually have to assign one...?
[10:50] <Oetzi> hi i have problems using gnomebaker under dapper
[10:50] <Sublimal-> how can i download-only with apt?
[10:51] <Oetzi> I only can burn cds with superuser rights
[10:51] <tristan> crimsun, anyway I thin at least you can understand part of it : http://pastebin.ca/224246
[10:51] <Constrictor> how do you resolve dependency problems with dpkg?
[10:51] <Oetzi> is there a possibility to grant rights to normal user
[10:51] <crimsun> Constrictor: you don't.
[10:52] <ictoanthbty> well bye
[10:52] <CarinArr> nox_ville, is it the same regardless of which one you choose?
[10:52] <Mirro> Ademan_, the Theme changed to something without title bar (could be a engine error mb) and theme manager doesnt change anything. now if i even start Beryl manager to do some changes manually, it doesnt work.
[10:52] <crimsun> tristan: pastebin ``dpkg -l xmgrace''
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: I think I found it: http://www.ortodoxism.ro/datasheets/analogdevices/397696214AD1981A_0.pdf
[10:52] <Constrictor> crimsum: i have a little problem after install kubunutu desktop
[10:52] <Lancellor> Hi guys an stupid question i just bought a laptop hp pavilion dv2125nr with a amd turion 64x2 processor dual core  with nvidia  geforce Go 6150 and 1 gig ram do i have to install 64 bit edition or can i install the regular 32 bit
[10:53] <Ademan_> Mirro: #beryl, i had that problem, i'm pretty sure it had to do with the composite extension not being enabled properly
[10:53] <Constrictor> it's recommended that i run apt-get install -f but it doesn't resolve the issue
[10:53] <tristan> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/224250
[10:53] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: well with only a IPv6 i get the "network unreachable" problems, with a manually assigned ipv4 i get the error "could not connect..."
[10:53] <ehird> Is there any disadvantage to apt-get?
[10:54] <crimsun> tristan: xmgrace is still installed; you claimed to have already removed it.
[10:54] <CarinArr> nox_ville, is this your own network you're connecting to or work/uni/whatever?
[10:54] <dv5000> hello when im trying to install efty i get the following msg and it freezes: bug soft lockup detected on CPU#0!
[10:54] <crimsun> tristan: ``sudo dpkg -P xmgrace && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade''
[10:55] <tonyyarusso> ehird: It doesn't handle dependencies when uninstalling as well as aptitude.
[10:55] <Nox_ville> its just a random access point lying around my accomodation.. but any windows pc seems to connect fine...
[10:55] <Mirro> Ademan_, thx
[10:55] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: is there an access point config i must make?
[10:55] <Ademan_> Mirro: no problem, good luck
[10:55] <tristan> crimsun, Iwhen I do sudo dpkg -P xmgrace, it says cannot uninstall xmgrace because it is not installed
[10:56] <Constrictor> can anyone help with this error found here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28630/
[10:56] <CarinArr> nox_ville, well if so i'd assume it would work if you just put it to dhcp, and left all the rest blank
[10:56] <tristan> Constrictor, it seems you have the same trouble as me but with a different package
[10:56] <crimsun> tristan: what fs are you using on /usr ?
[10:56] <crimsun> (please don't say XFS)
[10:57] <guillem101> my gnome-terminal and firefox fonts are crappy after the upgrade to edgy... what can I do?
[10:57] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: but how can i ping a pc that doesn't automatically get a ipv4 address tho
[10:57] <tristan> crimsun, ext3 I suppose since it is in / and / is ext3
[10:57] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: ok, thanks. I obviously can't address it right this moment, but I'll look sometime this weekend.
[10:57] <Constrictor> how did you resolve it tristan
[10:57] <dv5000> hello when im trying to install efty i get the following msg and it freezes: bug soft lockup detected on CPU#0! can someone help me?
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Okay.  Is it easier for you to try to find me here, or e-mail me?
[10:57] <tristan> Constrictor, crimsun is still trying to help me to get out of that...
[10:58] <Nox_ville> !samba
[10:58] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:58] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: honestly it's not easier for me either way.
[10:58] <Constrictor> right
[10:58] <rpedro> hi
[10:58] <abc> i got a question, may i ask?
[10:58] <Lynoure> abc: always
[10:59] <crimsun> tristan: do you have Synaptic/update-manager/Adept/aptitude still open?
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Would anything else be better?
[10:59] <rpedro> what is the command to restart HAL? I'm getting a bug that I'd like to see first if it's fixable this way, before I submit it
[10:59] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: ping me on Sunday.
[10:59] <|Bot|> timalot# This problem is closed, but Xorg will not start:\ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28631/
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Okay.
[10:59] <tristan> crimsun, adept has the tray icon open. Should I close it?
[10:59] <crimsun> tristan: yes
[10:59] <hype> is it normal if i cant find mplayer and mencoder in my sources on Edgy? (i have universe and multiverse enabled)
[11:00] <tristan> crimsun, it doesn't change anything unfortunately
[11:00] <timalot> |Bot|: i am taking a look
[11:00] <crimsun> tristan: then you have far more serious problems than a simple dist-upgrade can resolve.
[11:00] <tristan> crimsun, OK, it's ok. I have done sudo apt-get -f install and it's ok now
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> !info mencoder edgy
[11:00] <syouth> Hi. Can anyone suggest, where should this issue reported (it's about Ubuntu offial webpage under low resolutions): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1670537
[11:00] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB
[11:00] <crimsun> tristan: heh.
[11:00] <savvas> Alternate i386 upgrade: "Could not find the upgrade application in the archive, exiting"
[11:01] <abc> Thank you, so...i downloaded Ubuntu 6.10 yesterday, and the connection was very erractic, sometimes, breaking, sometimes freezing and sometimes showing "error". finally after pressing "pause" and "resume" several times, i got the ISO. Now i want to verify whether i got it correctly, and so i surfed ubuntu.com and they told me ...
[11:01] <savvas> what's wrong?
[11:01] <abc> sorry, for your time, problem solved, thanks anyways
[11:01] <abc> bye!
[11:01] <tristan> crimsun, thanks it is running fine now. Thank you so much for your help
[11:01] <timalot> |Bot|: ok it doesnt look like there is an error ... an u run sudo X from a terminal?
[11:01] <LookTJ> Hmm
[11:01] <_azrael> hype: While it may in theory be there, mplayer is one of the applications that is often best compiled from svn--it's usually in a pretty stable state and is ahead of binary versions.
[11:02] <timalot> |Bot|: can u ...
[11:02] <LookTJ> I think firefox 2.0 got a bug?
[11:02] <tristan> Constrictor, still here?
[11:02] <valehru> hmm...I think edgy broke my wmv codecs
[11:02] <hype> _azrael , true, i tried to compile it, but i have issues iwth x264 (that i've just compiled from svn)
[11:02] <Ademan_> is there no mplayer backend for totem anymore?
[11:02] <ManUtd> a
[11:02] <Constrictor> yep
[11:02] <Ademan_> valehru: did for me too
[11:02] <savvas> i can't update dapper to edgy from the alternate cd :( i have it mounted, do you think that's the problem?
[11:02] <gebruiker> does anyone got rt61 working on ubuntu???
[11:02] <gebruiker> cause wifi sucsk
[11:02] <hype> and when i launch mplayer, i have HUGE sound issue: i must have messed with some options :/
[11:02] <_azrael> hype: What is "x264" ?
[11:02] <crimsun> tristan: np
[11:02] <hype> vido codec
[11:02] <LookTJ> oh and i wonder why wmv doesnt show video
[11:02] <valehru> Ademan_, is there any patch yet?
[11:02] <Nox_ville> whats the best MP3 player?
[11:03] <|Bot|> timalot# i run X from root - try run from user ?
[11:03] <LookTJ> only sound?
[11:03] <tristan> Constrictor, judging on my trouble I think that you have to uninstall the bonjourn package if it is not an important package
[11:03] <_azrael> hype: Ah. Try installing the ubuntu w32codecs package.
[11:03] <Constrictor> i'll try that
[11:03] <tristan> Constrictor, by a sudo apt-get remove --purge bonjour
[11:03] <_azrael> hype: Additionally, as far as options go, generally the default settings work.
[11:03] <dv5000> when im trying to install edgy i get this msg while booting and it freezes: [1717699.008000]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! could someone help me?
[11:03] <_azrael> hype: Specifying command line settings for that ./configure is mainly for override purposes only.
[11:03] <hype> _azrael , i install w32 from archive (you know the one with the date in the name :p)
[11:03] <tristan> Constrictor, afterwards you should close all the update/upgrade like synaptic, aptitude, adept manager that youhave
[11:03] <timalot> |Bot|: so it doesnt work from root ? ....
[11:04] <Ademan_> valehru: i'd say just reinstally your w32codecs
[11:04] <_azrael> hype: Ah. As far as that goes, I have no specific knowledge of that codec, sorry.
[11:04] <tristan> Constrictor, and finally run sudo apt-get -f install to fix the broken pckage and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:04] <Ademan_> valehru: i've just been using mplayer so idon't really care
[11:04] <Constrictor> ah
[11:04] <hype> _azrael , i used this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187709&highlight=mplayer
[11:04] <Constrictor> will try that now and let you know
[11:04] <Constrictor> one sec
[11:04] <hype> (check options)
[11:05] <tristan> Constrictor, what's that package bonjour anyway? It means hello in French...
[11:05] <hype> some people just had the same issue, and just said removing the x264 flag would solve the issue, but it didnt -_-
[11:05] <savvas> heh found the culprit, you must do it from the ~/ dir :P
[11:05] <Nox_ville> !media
[11:05] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:05] <_azrael> hype: Do you explicitly need this x264 codec?
[11:05] <hype> _azrael , what options do you use to compile mplayer?
[11:05] <dv5000> when im trying to install edgy i get this msg while booting and it freezes: [1717699.008000]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! could someone help me?
[11:06] <_azrael> hype: I use ./configure with no flags.
[11:06] <wiking> since i've upgraded to edgy my ipod is not automatically mounted, any fixes for this? )
[11:06] <_azrael> hype: I've only used flags when my libraries are in abnormal places.
[11:06] <hype> _azrael , not really, tho i tried to compile without this option; mplayer is still unusable because of sound
[11:06] <zanpakuto> anyone used Xen here in edgy?
[11:06] <hype> ok
[11:06] <hype> like win32 codecs
[11:06] <hype> mm, i'll try that
[11:06] <Nox_ville> PPL>>> Whats a good MP3 music player ?????
[11:06] <_azrael> hype: As long as those are in place beforehand, it detects them and enables this.
[11:06] <apokryphos> dv5000: have you Googled?
[11:06] <Constrictor> bonjour helps you set up networks with mac tristan
[11:06] <hype> Nox_ville , xmms, bmp, audacious
[11:06] <apokryphos> Nox_ville: /msg ubotu audio
[11:07] <Rock_Star> _azrael, beep media player
[11:07] <_azrael> Rock_Star: Why should I use beep? mplayer works fine.
[11:07] <gebruiker> MY RT61 DOESN'T WORK ON UBUNTU EDGY!!
[11:07] <hype> _azrael , cheers
[11:07] <apokryphos> why would anyone use beep if there's something like banshee out there for GTK users?
[11:07] <GeorgeDutch> Guys where can i get the totem plugins to handle audio in mozilla?
[11:07] <gebruiker> COULD SOMEONE HELP ME OUT?
[11:07] <apokryphos> gebruiker: no shouting please
[11:07] <tristan> Constrictor, ok. Then maybe you will reinstall it afterxards but it seems it's causing the upgrade problem
[11:07] <gebruiker> I DON'T SHOUT
[11:07] <gebruiker> ??
[11:07] <apokryphos> !find totem
[11:07] <syouth> I haven't checked Edgy, but in 6.04 there was still BMP in official branch, but no Audacious.
[11:07] <ubotu> Found: libtotem-plparser-dev, libtotem-plparser1, libtotem-plparser1-dbg, totem, totem-gstreamer (and 2 others)
[11:07] <Rock_Star> _azrael, a matter of taste.. beep looks more nice.. small and compact..
[11:07] <syouth> BMP is dead
[11:08] <hype> i use xmms now :p
[11:08] <apokryphos> GeorgeDutch: search for totem in synaptic
[11:08] <hype> loved audacious
[11:08] <syouth> xmms is even more dead than BMP :P
[11:08] <_azrael> Rock_Star: I run mplayer, not gmplayer :P
[11:08] <Constrictor> i can't remove it
[11:08] <eva> Nox_ville i have tested some mp3 and i like vlc
[11:08] <dxdemetriou> ti tried bmpx, but I think bmp is ligter and better
[11:08] <valehru> bugger, Chinas firewall doesnt like me downloading the codecs through APT. Does anyone have a HTTP link for me to get them?
[11:08] <Constrictor> tristan: because ksysguard is now in the mix as well
[11:08] <apokryphos> again, why would you not use banshee if you wanted a decent audio GTK app?
[11:08] <valehru> w32codecs that is/
[11:09] <NotYourName> my Edgy install freezes after a few mins with screen of vertical lines
[11:09] <Rock_Star> bmp is the best,its alive and rocking  ;D
[11:09] <tristan> Constrictor, well, there it seems your trouble is bigger than mine. maybe ask crimsun if he is still around...
[11:09] <Clavain> hidaho, can somebody tell me, how to get out the processname or pid from the installertool from desktop CD? installtool is freezing sometimes :/
[11:09] <hype> put a skin on xmms, and you got the same :p
[11:09] <Constrictor> i'll sort it out
[11:09] <apokryphos> Rock_Star: why would you say that? It's better than xmms, but surely that's the only thing it's got...
[11:09] <syouth> Rock_Star: How is it alive. It's develeopment team decleared it dead and started with BMPx ... Audacious is the most close fork of BMP under active development
[11:10] <syouth> apokryphos: Me too:P
[11:10] <syouth> Edgy has 1.4 of amarok?
[11:10] <apokryphos> !info amarok
[11:10] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10 (edgy), package size 14370 kB, installed size 31288 kB
[11:10] <abc> I got a question about XGL. How do i make it run on Ubuntu? I have totally no idea about it, but checked out a video on GoogleVideo, that said that, XGL was running on Ubuntu. I too need to have those coold 3D Desktops. Can someone point me to a link or be kind enough to explain it to me?
[11:10] <apokryphos> yes
[11:10] <apokryphos> abc: /msg ubotu xgl
[11:11] <abc>  /msg ubotu xgl
[11:11] <abc> What is this?
[11:11] <apokryphos> abc: no space before the /msg
[11:11] <Constrictor> tristan, and let you know how. i think i might need to rebuild kubuntu
[11:11] <abc> apokryphos: Thank you
[11:11] <apokryphos> np
[11:12] <NotYourName> where can i get install help...my
[11:12] <NotYourName> my Edgy install is freezing up
[11:12] <Homer_Linux> hiya ppl i just installed kde onto of my gnome de  ,but now firefox is not defaulf browser how do i correct this
[11:13] <apokryphos> NotYourName: freezing up how, where?
[11:13] <syouth> Last time people:) -- Can anyone suggest, where should this issue reported (it's about Ubuntu offial webpage under low resolutions): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1670537
[11:13] <NotYourName> freezes after a few minutes of displaying Ubuntu logo
[11:13] <syouth> *official*
[11:14] <NotYourName> screen becomes full of vertical lines
[11:14] <NotYourName> keyboard doesn't respond to anything
[11:14] <Stonehead> the firefox2 startup page doesn't exist yet :)  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/610
[11:14] <Homer_Linux> also whats the best was in linux of cloneing my main hdd ,backing up everything
[11:14] <apokryphos> NotYourName: is this after you've installed, or in the live session?
[11:15] <NotYourName> i haven't installed...just booted from CD and chose the first option...install
[11:15] <savvas> Homer_Linux: try partimage
[11:15] <|Bot|> timalot# http://support.kurkino.net.ru/log/Xorg.0.log   - its last log
[11:15] <NotYourName> didnt get any more options after that
[11:15] <|Bot|> timalot# run from user
[11:15] <Homer_Linux> thanks savvas
[11:16] <DaGame> After chrooting can I unmount the original partition I chrooted from?
[11:16] <apokryphos> NotYourName: can't suggest more than (i) filing a bug report and, (ii) trying the alternate CD for the time being
[11:16] <syouth> Homer_Linux: I used Knoppix and used dd_rescue
[11:16] <syouth> I had a soon-to
[11:16] <NotYourName> what about trying with a different graphics card...is that likely to help?
[11:16] <syouth> soon-to-be-dead hdd and got my media out of it
[11:16] <apokryphos> NotYourName: perhaps
[11:16] <syouth>  /home stayed there:(
[11:17] <anil> HI all, I have a problem while booting into my ubuntu machine. Actually I tried updating kubuntu to 3.5.5 a couple of days before and this happened. I would like to know where can I find some kind of a log file so that I can paste it in here for your feedback. Thanks.
[11:17] <NotYourName> ok...tnx
[11:18] <KenSentMe> I use the ATI Big Desktop setup for dual screen, but since i upgraded from Ubuntu Dapper to Edgy, fglrx doens't work anymore. flgrxinfo says: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". What can i do?
[11:18] <timalot> |Bot|: are u using the right driver? ... i810? .... u could try backing up your xorg.conf and running X -configure
[11:18] <timalot> |Bot|: X will try to create a good xorg.conf
[11:18] <c0nfidencal> hi dudes
[11:19] <rickympl> hi
[11:19] <syouth> K
[11:19] <valehru> The server to download the w32codecs "http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/" seems to be down.  Has anyone got a mirror or a copy of the codecs themselves?
[11:19] <c0nfidencal> im running ubuntu 6.10, but i have problems with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:19] <c0nfidencal> http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4748/screenshotcl4.png
[11:19] <c0nfidencal> after i chose my video card 'name'
[11:19] <c0nfidencal> it shows this screen and thats it
[11:19] <c0nfidencal> i cant press ok button :(
[11:19] <rickympl> im having problems getting into gnome session with one user, get a blank screen with mouse cursor, but can log in with another user
[11:20] <vidar> um, after installing from the dvd, the box boots and i get a console login prompt. no x? also, the fs is mounted read-only(!?). ideas?
[11:20] <|Bot|> timalot# yes i use i810 cipset this worked from dapper %\
[11:21] <yukio> Sorry, why in Firefox fonts seem too big now? (Edgy)
[11:21] <|Bot|> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ....  i did
[11:21] <vidar> (and what the heck is the root passwd?? ;)
[11:21] <ehird> vidar: it has none
[11:21] <ehird> you use sudo and your own pass ;)
[11:21] <ehird> (or gksudo for graphical apps)
[11:22] <vidar> ah, ok. thanks.
[11:22] <timalot> |Bot|: try X --configure ... to create another xorg.conf
[11:22] <vidar> still, i think something here is badly broken.
[11:22] <vidar> no x on boot, read-only root fs...
[11:22] <c0nfidencal> anyone can help me? :x
[11:23] <|Bot|> timalot# , now I shall try
[11:23] <anil> HI all, I have a problem while booting into my ubuntu machine. Actually I tried updating kubuntu to 3.5.5 a couple of days before and this happened. I would like to know where can I find some kind of a log file so that I can paste it in here for your feedback. Thanks.
[11:23] <duckdown> Hi all... When I try to run 'screen' when I su to another user, it keeps telling me it cannot open /dev/ptyX .. How can I fix this problem?
[11:23] <ehird> anil: whats your problem ;)
[11:24] <daunt> uh oh ..
[11:24] <erUSUL> anil: /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:24] <anil> Well the botting stops
[11:24] <daunt> my dapper->edgy upgrade is not in good shape ..
[11:24] <ehird> anil: what EXACTLY happens on the screen
[11:24] <daunt> jay@jdev:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[11:24] <ehird> haha, edgy must be damn buggy
[11:24] <c0nfidencal> yes it is
[11:24] <c0nfidencal> :x
[11:24] <c0nfidencal> imho
[11:24] <daunt> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[11:24] <daunt> ERROR: emacsen-common being used before being configured.
[11:24] <daunt> ERROR: This is likely a bug in the erlang package, which needs to
[11:24] <daunt> ERROR: add one of the appropriate dependencies.
[11:24] <daunt> ERROR: See /usr/share/doc/emacsen-common/debian-emacs-policy.gz
[11:24] <daunt> ERROR: for details.
[11:24] <ehird> it works fine for me after that No Root System sillyness
[11:24] <luki_> Hey Guys ... I have installed new Ubuntu 6.10 and ati-fglrx driver - I made a change to xorg.conf (fglrx in section device) and X runs fine but when I do fglrxinfo I got "mesa" instead of Ati stuff ... what might be wrong ?
[11:24] <ehird> !pastebin | daunt
[11:24] <ubotu> daunt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:24] <luki_> Cheers
[11:24] <luki_> in advance
[11:24] <timalot> |Bot|: from the log file u showed me it looks like the driver is having trouble loading...  u might want to backup your current xorg.conf to somewhere and run sudo  X --configure .... to create a new xorg.conf ... if that doesnt work then u could try using the vesa driver .... otherwise i dont know maybe search the help forums
[11:24] <anil> It says "Running local boot scrips rc.local and it says OK"
[11:25] <savvas> vidar: try sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
[11:25] <anil> but after that it does not move any further
[11:25] <vidar> savvas: it's installed. i managed to "startx" after remounting / as read-write.
[11:25] <vidar> weird that.
[11:25] <ehird> eh, maybe your rc scripts are messed
[11:25] <savvas> vidar: i gotta ask, did you get the "server" or the "desktop" version?
[11:25] <KenSentMe> Anyone know how i can delete the local folders in Evolution, i only use imap
[11:25] <daunt> is it possible to go back to dapper by just changing edgy->dapper in my sources.list and doing an apt-get update dist-upgrade again?
[11:25] <vidar> savvas: desktop
[11:26] <vidar> savvas: the login-prompt says "linda-desktop login", at least.
[11:26] <savvas> weird :s
[11:26] <erUSUL> daunt: do not think so try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure emacsen-common'
[11:26] <ehird> vidar: edgy seems to be pretty edgy
[11:26] <timhaughton> What would be the device node for a removable usb drive?
[11:26] <Nox_ville> ehird: lol
[11:26] <vidar> ehird: heh. :)
[11:26] <dshot> Are there really that many issues with Edgy?
[11:26] <valehru> Hey guys, is the w32codecs no longer being maintained?  The PLF crew stopped doing anything with it and are no longer hosting it.  Any advice where I can get it would be appreciated.
[11:27] <daunt> erUSUL, okay .. i've already s/edgy/dapper/ in my sources.list and started dist-upgrade again .. :(
[11:27] <erUSUL> timhaughton: /dev/sdxx
[11:27] <c0nfidencal> dshot> Are there really that many issues with Edgy? <- yah
[11:27] <c0nfidencal> just installed it and i found i cannot
[11:27] <anil> <
[11:27] <c0nfidencal> run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg fully
[11:27] <timhaughton> erUSUL: So if my internal drive is sda1, then sda2?
[11:27] <ehird> it has some problems but it isn't as bad as some people are making it out to be
[11:27] <c0nfidencal> it shows some sht.. after i chose video card name
[11:27] <c0nfidencal> (i cannot press OK)
 so what can I do to restore them..
[11:27] <erUSUL> daunt: that would not work.... you are going to end up with a giant mess...
[11:27] <ehird> also, how could i seed the edgy torrent using my http download?
[11:27] <anil> Any possible solution
[11:28] <|Bot|> timalot# eh %\ Has not helped \ thnx for help %)
[11:28] <padowan> c0nfidencal, do you have installed beryl packages or compiz ones in dapper?
[11:28] <c0nfidencal> no
[11:28] <c0nfidencal> :x
[11:28] <erUSUL> timhaughton: yes... do 'tail -f /var/log/messages' and plug the thing you should see the device it gets assigned to
[11:28] <padowan> ok, thanks for info
[11:28] <valehru> could anyone tell me where I can get the w32 codecs?  A repository name perhaps?
[11:28] <erUSUL> !seveas
[11:28] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:28] <valehru> !w32codecs
[11:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:29] <erUSUL> valehru: seveas repo has w32codecs
[11:29] <lasindi> Hi everyone, I upgraded my Dapper installation to Edgy and everything looks great except that the "cancel" icon on cancel buttons looks like the old, unthemed GNOME version. Is this normal or is my installation screwed up?
[11:29] <valehru> erUSUL, wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[11:29] <savvas> ehird: get rtorrent and the torrent file, place the http download in your home dir and open the torrent file in rtorrent (using backspace you import the path to the torrent file)
[11:30] <beligum> Does anyone know how I configure gnome to use single clicks instead of double clicks?
[11:30] <ehird> savvas: hrm, i just need to know if the http iso == the torrent iso
[11:30] <ehird> bit-for-bit
[11:30] <timalot> beligum: are u talking about the file manager?
[11:30] <Nox_ville> !openssh-server
[11:30] <beligum> timalot: yes
[11:30] <mumanddad> hi... how do i find out what version of ubuntu is on a computer
[11:31] <erUSUL> beligum: in a nautilus window Edit>Preferences iirc
[11:31] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 212 kB, installed size 552 kB
[11:31] <savvas> ehird: it is, rtorrent also does a hash file check
[11:31] <erUSUL> mumanddad: cat /etc/lsb-release
[11:31] <timalot> beligum: open a file manager window and go edit->preferences->behaviour there is an option there
[11:31] <mumanddad> erUSUL,  thanks
[11:31] <ehird> savvas: i was saying it because i didn't want to download another torrent client :<
[11:31] <compengi> are there any download managers for ubuntu?
[11:31] <dxdemetriou> is there anybody that knows how can I configure the size of each new spatial window? it's too small
[11:32] <savvas> oh lol, well.. use the default one :)
[11:32] <beligum> timalot: problem is, I use kubuntu, so no nautilus installed here
[11:32] <Carnage\> dxdemetriou: Take a look at devilspie (If I understand you correctly, at least) :>
[11:32] <savvas> i like terminal apps because i can use them with screen :P
[11:32] <erUSUL> beligum: check in the konkeror preferences then
[11:32] <timalot> beligum: oops... sorry i dont know them
[11:32] <timalot> n
[11:32] <dxdemetriou> Carnage\, what is this?
[11:33] <beligum> erUSUL: no, I mean to integrate the gnome apps better into kde env
[11:33] <ehird> will the built in client seed if it finds a full file instead of overwriting though?
[11:33] <compengi> anyone knows any download manager?
[11:33] <Carnage\> dxdemetriou: It is a program that lets you control the state and size of newly created windows
[11:33] <savvas> compengi: freeloader
[11:34] <Tomcat_> compengi: wget or gwget
[11:34] <ehird> savvas, compengi: best name ever
[11:34] <timalot> Carnage\: some programs will take a --geometry command line option
[11:34] <savvas> heh :)
[11:34] <anil> The following is the link to my Xorg.0.log file.. There are some errors at the end of the file. Please check them out and give me some feedback. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28634/
[11:34] <Carnage\> timalot: I know, but unfortunately not all
[11:34] <ehird> eh, i might as well try
[11:34] <Carnage\> There comes devilspie into the scene :)
[11:34] <ehird> i need to start organizing my home folder :/
[11:34] <compengi> Tomcat_, but if i the connection is brocken can i resume it?
[11:35] <Carnage\> compengi: KGet if you're using KDE
[11:35] <ehird> question
[11:35] <Carnage\> Or even under gnome...
[11:35] <Tomcat_> compengi: Sure.
[11:35] <Nox_ville> whats the command to install a .deb file ?
[11:35] <ehird> if i've done the Sagem F@ST ueagle-atm tutorial, can i delete the files from my home directory?
[11:35] <Carnage\> dpkg -i <file>
[11:35] <Carnage\> @ Nox_ville
[11:35] <Nox_ville> Carnage: sudo
[11:36] <erUSUL> anil: they are harmless unless you have a wacom tabblet... the problem is elsewhere
[11:36] <anil> oh ok
[11:37] <ehird> what's the name of the iso in the edgy desktop torrent?
[11:37] <anil> Then how can I check what the problem is in my booting.. Because the boot process does not give any error messages and it just freezes
[11:38] <Mukunda> Okay, so with the ipw3945, how do I get this going with Edgy?
[11:38] <erUSUL> anil: did you checked the other two logs i mentioned (messages and syslog)
[11:39] <BooBar> Mukunda:  http://www.digitalvampire.org/blog/articles/2006/09/29/ubuntu-edgy-eft-on-a-thinkpad-x60s-how-to-make-ipw3945-work
[11:39] <C-O-L-T> I am using Beryl/xgl in Edgy. What is the command for seeing all the open windows on the screen
[11:39] <anil> erUSUL: Yeah I did and there is nothing suspicios in them. IF you want I can paste them.
[11:39] <cyphase> F9
[11:40] <Mukunda> BooBar: thanks, I have seen that, but the ipw3945d package doesn't seem to show up, I've added the repo.
[11:40] <cyphase> is anyone using Beryl/AIGLX?
[11:40] <MattBibby> hey... just installed dapper.. seem to be having quite a few problems with the repos
[11:40] <BooBar> C-O-L-T: just move your mouse to the left corner
[11:40] <C-O-L-T> cyphase: thanks
[11:40] <cyphase> it's almost working for me, except there aren't any window borders
[11:41] <MattBibby> Package ntfs-3g is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:41] <MattBibby> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:41] <MattBibby> is only available from another source
[11:41] <MattBibby> E: Package ntfs-3g has no installation candidate
[11:41] <MattBibby> i seem to get that with quite alot of packages
[11:41] <erUSUL> !paste | MattBibby
[11:41] <ubotu> MattBibby: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:41] <MattBibby> Ah sorry ;)
[11:41] <MattBibby> is 4 lines flooding?
[11:41] <BooBar> cyphase: restatr the windows manager
[11:41] <ehird> MattBibby: with 1000 users, yes
[11:42] <MattBibby> okies
[11:42] <MattBibby> :)
[11:42] <cyphase> BooBar, I have
[11:42] <C-O-L-T> Question how to make my edgy look like dapper? I would like the same artwork like dapper drake has. I don't like personally the edgy artwork
[11:42] <BooBar> cyphase: is berly running
[11:42] <cyphase> i've tried Beryl/XGL, and it had a weird bug where the gtk controls weren't themed
[11:43] <MattBibby> Apologies.. so ye im getting problems with repos..
[11:43] <MattBibby> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28635/
[11:43] <Nox_ville> ppl.. i have a networking problem.. every time i  try (using network-admin) i get an errror and i get Link Quality=0/94  Signal level=-95 dBm  Noise level=-95 dBm on iwconfig
[11:43] <cyphase> BooBar, yes
[11:43] <Nox_ville> so i cant connect to a network
[11:43] <Mukunda> BooBar: do you have an ipw3945? Have you got it running?
[11:44] <cyphase> Beryl/AIGLX is a lot faster too..
[11:44] <BooBar> cyphase: kill it and start it in a term..... any error
[11:45] <C-O-L-T> cyphase: I see that you talk about xgl/beryl. I have two small problems when  I move a window with woobling effect the border of the windows pixelates a bit. And can I change the beryl logo at the top of the cube to the ubuntu sign
[11:45] <Draconicus> I need to separate the audio and video channels in an mpeg file. How can I do this?
[11:45] <C-O-L-T> cyphase: sorry for disturbing you
[11:45] <ehird> ubuntu-hr.org lets me max out my connection :D ... which is only 128KB/sec
[11:45] <Nox_ville> !smbfs
[11:45] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 900 kB
[11:45] <DarkFlib> Draconicus: projectx can do that
[11:46] <Draconicus> DarkFlib: And save them independently?
[11:46] <DarkFlib> yes
[11:46] <DarkFlib> its a demuxer
[11:46] <cyphase> C-O-L-T: open the settings manager, go to the Desktop Cube, plugin, and click the Filenames tab
[11:46] <DarkFlib> java based
[11:46] <Nox_ville> how can i set up smbfs on a linux laptop so i can connect to a windows pc
[11:46] <Draconicus> Sounds good to me.
[11:46] <erUSUL> !samba
[11:46] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:46] <erUSUL> !samba > Nox_ville
[11:46] <DarkFlib> I use it on windows... but it should work on linux without problems...
[11:47] <C-O-L-T> cyphase: cool but where to get an ubuntu sign
[11:47] <C-O-L-T> cyphase: which is cool
[11:47] <DarkFlib> requires a fairly recent JRE tho... 1.4 or 1.5 i think
[11:47] <Nox_ville> !samba
[11:47] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:47] <cyphase> look on the wiki
[11:47] <timhaughton> Getting loads of 503 errors on repositories. Is that just sheer load?
[11:47] <MattBibby> yeh its just a modded mount command
[11:47] <anil> ????
[11:48] <C-O-L-T> cyphase: anyway do you know how to get back the dapper artwork I don't like the edgy artwork at all. I mean login screen and so on
[11:48] <cyphase> C-O-L-T: not off the top of my head
[11:49] <zeckOr> hi
[11:49] <C-O-L-T> cyphase: :) thanks anyway :D
[11:49] <cyphase> C-O-L-T: it is possible though
[11:49] <C-O-L-T> cyphase: how?
[11:49] <Nox_ville> smbfs
[11:49] <MattBibby> C-O-L-T go google :P
[11:49] <cyphase> C-O-L-T: i don't know
[11:49] <Nox_ville> where can i download smbfs from
[11:50] <MattBibby> nok_ville : apt-get instal smbfs
[11:50] <ripper> what would cause a livcd to go into kernel panic?
[11:50] <ehird> i'm installing amarok on gnome, god help me D:
[11:50] <MattBibby> ripper : hardware errors
[11:50] <Masqy> Does anyone know which version of VLC is included? i.e. does it have built in codecs for .wmv files?
[11:50] <ripper> hmmm
[11:50] <c|int> you all still going strong?
[11:50] <c|int> =P
[11:50] <ripper> what could i do to fix this?
[11:50] <c|int> hey ripper
[11:50] <crimsun> Masqy: certain .wmv files, yes.
[11:50] <c|int> same guy? o_O
[11:50] <Nox_ville> MattBibby: i can't.. my linux box has no internet... only this windows 1... so i need a direct link
[11:50] <MattBibby> ripper : try see what its trying to do before it panics
[11:50] <crimsun> Masqy: we use a snapshot of what will become 0.8.6 in Edgy.
[11:51] <C-O-L-T> MattBibby: I have googled a lot but nothing
[11:51] <c|int> hey crimsun lol
[11:51] <ripper> setting up basic networking
[11:51] <ehird> uninstalling
[11:51] <ehird> it doesn't feel right
[11:51] <ripper> my bad, its right after basic networking is setup
[11:51] <MattBibby> C-O-L-T : look for sumthing like GNOME erm login theme transfers
[11:51] <Masqy> crimsun: In the past (i.e. until 6.06), the vlc version of the ubuntu package, was the only one who didn't make subtitles disappear when I paused VLC. Did you keep it up in Edgy ?
[11:52] <crimsun> Masqy: no idea, I don't enable subtitles. Did you file a bug if it's a bug?
[11:52] <c|int> brb
[11:53] <vidar> hmm. after remounting as read-write, running startx and rebooting, everything seems to be in order. :-,
[11:53] <MattBibby> hmm... wish these repos would work :|
[11:53] <Masqy> crimsun: I think it's a bug, and I know the guys at VLC don't consider it as a major one : (  Anyway, the versions that came packaged with ubuntu were ok, I only got those problems when I compiled myself.
[11:54] <crimsun> Masqy: err, um, ok...?
[11:54] <c|int> you want to know the best way to run software, on testing, or even unstable distro's..
[11:54] <Masqy> I guess I'll have to try out for myself..
[11:54] <MattBibby> Masqy : for subtitles u need to configure the compile with a strange include
[11:54] <c|int> its not from apt-get either, or installing from synaptic
[11:54] <bmgz> Ademan_ : I managed to fix the absent usplash! After a bit of research I figured out the solution was, 1) edit /etc/usplash.conf 2) sudo update-initramfs -k $(uname -r) -u
[11:54] <c|int> comile it from source package
[11:55] <c|int> compile*
[11:55] <Masqy> MattBibby: which?
[11:55] <MattBibby> Masqy... gimme a sec
[11:55] <ripper> ok how can i pass parms to the kernel w/ the 6.06.1 live installer?
[11:55] <ripper> apparently i need to turn acpi off
[11:55] <Masqy> MattBibby: The subtitles module works. It is only when I pause the movie, that they disappear..
[11:56] <ripper> !acpi
[11:56] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[11:56] <bmgz> If anybody needs to change the usplash resolution ->  1) edit /etc/usplash.conf 2) sudo update-initramfs -k $(uname -r) -u
[11:56] <Masqy> MayyBibby: when I play again, they reappear.. b
[11:56] <c|int> hey bmgz
[11:56] <Ademan_> bmgz: haha what a pain, but good job
[11:56] <ripper> does anyone know how i can disable acpi @ boot on the installer cd?
[11:57] <c|int> yes ripper
[11:57] <andyjeffries> I'm trying to upgrade to Edgy Eft but got a failure trying to upgrade uim-common (ERROR: wta to car (errobj t)), the upgrade then failed and I now don't want to reboot just in case it doesn't all come back up fine....
[11:57] <c|int> no=acpi
[11:57] <c|int> oh wait.. I tispy
[11:57] <MattBibby> ripper : linux noacpi
[11:57] <boni> does anybody know how to change the splash screen back to the default ubuntu one before gnome starts up???
[11:57] <KenSentMe> Anyone here running teamspeak. I have no in game sound when i run teamspeak beside it
[11:57] <c|int> there it is :P
[11:57] <c|int> noacpi  yep
[11:57] <MattBibby> type that at beginin before u click enter
[11:57] <ripper> ok do i just type this at the initial screen?
[11:57] <c|int> hey MattBibby :)
[11:57] <MattBibby> ye
[11:57] <MattBibby> hey c|int
[11:58] <c|int> ripper.. hit F6 for more options
[11:58] <boni> i tried to get some new splash screen in usplash but tht didnt work out and i deleted the usplash directory
[11:58] <MattBibby> sup
[11:58] <c|int> then add it, to the line
[11:58] <c|int> am I right guys?
[11:58] <MattBibby> yep
[11:58] <MattBibby> thats easier
[11:58] <boni> now i have no splash screen
[11:58] <c|int> :)
[11:58] <c|int> I use alternative anyways
[11:58] <MattBibby> used to have the problem with my sony vaio
[11:58] <MattBibby> but since dapper acpi all works now :D
[11:58] <c|int> I feel in my opinion. live cd builds, just not to the exact anyways. but thats just me
[11:58] <ripper> says could not find kernel image noacpi
[11:59] <boni> can anyone tell me where is the default ubuntu splash screen file??
[11:59] <ripper> could not find kernel image linux *
[11:59] <boni> !ubotu
[11:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:59] <andyjeffries> The full details of my failed upgrade are at: http://pastebin.co.uk/4686
[11:59] <c|int> its in pixmaps boni
[11:59] <c|int> sorry I should shut up. I got back from pub.. had to relieve the stress
[12:00] <MattBibby> lol
[12:00] <c|int> he he
[12:00] <crimsun> boni: /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-ubuntu.so
[12:00] <MattBibby> ive just woke up
[12:00] <ripper> c|int it tells me couldnt find kernel image linux
[12:00] <c|int> you all want to join.. #edgy or.. #ubuntu-edgy
[12:00] <MattBibby> and realised repos were being bitches for me last night
[12:00] <MattBibby> so cudnt install anythin
[12:00] <c|int> that way we can work in a smaller group. and not annoy people :P
[12:01] <c|int> ripper.. will help you figure it out
[12:01] <Mukunda> Okay, I've got a router that does DNS forwarding, ubuntu gets confused and needs my ISP's DNS addresses, but whenever I reboot the DNS address gets reset, how can I stop this? In dapper I could edit /etc/dhcp3/dhcp-scripts but that doesn't exist in Edgy.
[12:02] <ehird> having internet problems
[12:02] <ehird> can anyone hear me?
[12:02] <vidar> no. :)
[12:02] <c|int> can any devs. volunteer in #ubuntu-edgy plz
[12:02] <MattBibby> mukunda? cnt u set them in /etc/resolv.conf
[12:02] <ehird> test
[12:03] <MattBibby> LOL
[12:03] <MattBibby> so he leaves
[12:03] <c|int> MattBibby: , can ya?
[12:03] <Mukunda> MattBibby: yup, no problem, but as I said, it gets reset by the DHCP client when I reboot.
[12:03] <c|int> I'm tryin to take the load off. #ubuntu
[12:03] <MattBibby> c|int: what?
[12:03] <ehird> test
[12:03] <MattBibby> ehird yes we can see you
[12:03] <MattBibby> stop testing :P
[12:03] <c|int> made channel. #ubuntu-edgy, for people wanting to seriously.. patch up edgy, and work on it
[12:03] <Nixion> I always get a black screen after booting, neither normal nor safe graphics (worked with Dapper) mode works. I've got an X700, anyone knows a solution?
[12:04] <MattBibby> c|int : im not a dev :P
[12:04] <c|int> its okay
[12:04] <c|int> anyone welcome
[12:04] <c|int> and heck, maybe we can get it up and hosted. too
[12:04] <Chandu> hi
[12:04] <XP1> hi
[12:04] <Lynoure> c|int: there are other channels for ubuntu developement already, why a new one?
[12:05] <Chandu> any command to carete overrode file
[12:05] <XP1> is the 6.10 dvd out yet?
[12:05] <boni> Did anybody try out GNU Hurd with Dapper???
[12:05] <kyja> haha ok ubuntu resolves to freenode. =] 
[12:05] <ehird> is there some sort of standard for naming python app folders? they all seem to be app-ma.m
[12:05] <knoppix> la virgen!, cuanta pea.
[12:06] <r000t2> could someone help me and explain why the upstart is not accepted when i edit sources.list to edgy instead of dapper and try aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:06] <erUSUL> !es > knoppix
[12:06] <XP1> Does anyone know if the Ubuntu 6.10 DVD is out yet?
[12:06] <susscorfa> !schedule > susscorfa
[12:07] <knoppix> que?
[12:07] <tnnc> can someone give me an site to d/l via bittorrent
[12:08] <erUSUL> !es
[12:08] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:09] <|Bot|> !ru
[12:09] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[12:09] <erUSUL> tnnc: download.ubuntu.com
[12:09] <C-O-L-T> hello I use Edgy Xgl/beryl sometimes I have problems playing videos
[12:09] <tnnc> i dont see anywhere there to d/l via bittorrwent
[12:11] <amki> C-O-L-T: maybe your computer's resources are at their end?
[12:11] <C-O-L-T> amki: I dont believe it, I can hear the sound but can not see anything just a blue screen
[12:11] <knoppix> thanks ubotu
[12:12] <prower> Hello :> I just installed Edgy...although I have every plugin set for gstreamer that should allow me to play MP3's, I still don't hear any audio :/ Anyone know why this might be?
[12:12] <amki> C-O-L-T: are you shure to have alle required codecs?
[12:13] <C-O-L-T> amki: yep I have just upgraded from dapper
[12:14] <baliw> what is edgy?
[12:14] <Lynoure> baliw: the newest (non-long term support) version of Ubuntu
[12:14] <amki> baliw: the new ubuntu release 6.10
[12:15] <baliw> aw
[12:15] <shinobi2> my ubuntu fonts are screwed up, when desktop starts, all fonts are squres. how can i fix that?
[12:15] <onurx> I have intel 915 mobile graphics card on my laptop and installed ubuntu 6.10, how can I enable 3D ?
[12:15] <baliw> geez. i just installed this a few hours ago, and now there's an upgrade?
[12:15] <shinobi2> i can't read anything, but xterm's runs fine
[12:15] <ripper> i cant seem to get the ubuntu installer to boot using noapic or noacpi or anything like that, it just reboots
[12:15] <ArmedKing> Man lot of support question with the new release haha
[12:16] <baliw> i don't even know how to use this yet :(
[12:16] <C-O-L-T> onurx: install Beryl/Xgl from www.beryl-project.org
[12:16] <erUSUL> tnnc: portugal mirror http://ftp.dei.uc.pt/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/edgy/
[12:17] <talldave2002> help! I have updated to Edgy, need to reinstall Nvidia drivers, have found a turorial about envy, this seems to work, until i get error message that i appear to be runnung xserver, how do I stop xserver?
[12:17] <knoppix> adios, dios, dios!!
[12:17] <ArmedKing> baliw: When did you download the cd?
[12:17] <tarzan> hi... why can't i play any kind of media files (mp3/video) from nautilus from a network share (smb)? if i copy the file to my homedir it works perfectly... and ideas?
[12:17] <shinobi2> i can't read anything in X.  anyone know why?
[12:17] <baliw> last night
[12:17] <osama> my first dist-update still running .... data backed up, ubuntu cd burned just in case .....
[12:17] <osama> my first dist-upgrade still running .... data backed up, ubuntu cd burned just in case .....
[12:18] <Administrator> shinobi2: what you cant read...in X.
[12:18] <padowan> tarzan, do you use totem? xine? mplayer?
[12:18] <flail> It's not possible to merge two partitions which have another partition in betwen them, is it?
[12:18] <joona> tarzan uses ropes, lions and alligators
[12:18] <shinobi2> Administrator, everything. all the text form the drop down menu are squares
[12:18] <Sublimal-> How can i get the kernel source with apt ? im using edgy
[12:19] <padowan> joona, and a monkey, yes
[12:19] <joona> yay
[12:19] <erUSUL> talldave2002: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:19] <tarzan> padowan: totem-xine, mplayer, vlc... nothing works...
[12:19] <joona> Sublimal-: apt-get install kernel-sources
[12:19] <padowan> tarzan, use totem with gstreamer
[12:19] <tarzan> padowan: erm... no
[12:19] <Administrator> shinobi2: I guess some fonts are missing. Is that a fresh install or...
[12:19] <Sublimal-> joona: that didnt work
[12:19] <shinobi2> Administrator, even the gnome login screen's text is not readiable
[12:20] <joona> Sublimal-: yeah, i see. sec.
[12:20] <talldave2002> erUSUL: thanks
[12:20] <Administrator> shinobi2: Guess fonts are not installed...
[12:20] <shinobi2> Administrator, no.   i cat some.windows.exe by accident
[12:20] <tarzan> padowan: i don't know why, but totem-gstreamer tends to be unbelievable unstable
[12:20] <Sublimal-> i would realy like the source for my 2.6.17.10 kernel
[12:20] <shinobi2> after i reboot, all the font are screwed up
[12:20] <Administrator> shinobi2: Did you make fresh installation or..
[12:20] <padowan> tarzan, i know, but it's the only one that have that functionality
[12:20] <padowan> as i know
[12:20] <talldave2002> erUSUL: no still get error I am running X server, how do I stop that?
[12:20] <joona> Sublimal-: apt-get install linux-source
[12:20] <shinobi2> Administrator, yes,  it was fresh install, 2 months ago
[12:20] <tnnc> i dont see anywhere there to d/l via bittorrwent
[12:21] <flail> Is it possible to merge two partitions which are separated by another partition?
[12:21] <padowan> or you can try to mount smb as normal mount with smbmount
[12:21] <ehird> torrwent
[12:21] <tarzan> padowan: it worked fine in dapper with totem-xine...
[12:21] <Nixion> I always get a black screen after booting, neither normal nor safe graphics (worked with Dapper) mode works. I've got an X700, anyone knows a solution?
[12:21] <Sublimal-> joona: aaah! Thanx!
[12:21] <tnnc> casn someonw give an site
[12:21] <Administrator> shinobi2: I mean fresh install of edy or did you upgrade from dapper -> edgy.
[12:21] <shinobi2> Administrator, the cat command must have changed my font settings
[12:21] <ehird> tnnc: can someone give you a keyboard
[12:21] <shinobi2> Administrator, fresh install of dapper
[12:21] <cyphase> if anyone is having problems with window decorations with Beryl/AIGLX, add  Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"  to the Screen secion in xorg.conf
[12:21] <Jan_> hi
[12:21] <padowan> tarzan, send a bug
[12:22] <tnnc> can some give you nothing
[12:22] <cyphase> it should fix it
[12:22] <Administrator> shinobi2: strange...Do you have the problem from the beginning or..
[12:22] <talldave2002> How do I stop Xserver?
[12:22] <shinobi2> Administrator, no, it's after the cat window.exe file and reboot
[12:23] <baliw> i need help in installing macromedia flash, or preferably upgrading my browser. I don't know how to go about with Linux yet.
[12:23] <Administrator> shinobi2: why do you need that operation...
[12:23] <shinobi2> Administrator, will apt-get ubuntu-desktop fix the problem?
[12:24] <Administrator> shinobi2: try apt-get xfonts*
[12:24] <shinobi2> Administrator, i was cat-ing a text file, but tab auto complete ran window.exe
[12:24] <Administrator> shinobi2: okay.
[12:24] <boni> !why
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about why - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <boni> !ask
[12:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:25] <shinobi2> Administrator, what's the exact command? 'apt-get xfonts*' said, invalid command
[12:26] <tarzan> omg... gnome nautilus got worse since 2.14... anyone else having problems browsing smb networks?
[12:26] <Administrator> shinobi2: apt-get install xxxxxx
[12:26] <Roger_The_Bum> shinobi2: it's sudo apt-get install xfonts
[12:26] <Milchmann> hi, since updating to edgy i cant establish a vnc-connection to a winXP-pc http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4644/
[12:27] <Roger_The_Bum> Milchmann: you'd have to install vncserver
[12:27] <Milchmann> for the client?
[12:27] <Roger_The_Bum> wait... let me look for the exact name of the package...
[12:27] <Milchmann> thank you
[12:27] <Roger_The_Bum> wait... you already did that?
[12:27] <Milchmann> im not sure, i just net the client
[12:28] <Milchmann> need
[12:28] <Milchmann> or so I thought
[12:28] <Roger_The_Bum> OH COME ON!!!
[12:28] <Roger_The_Bum> >_<
[12:28] <eva> anyone who knows how to rip a cd to mp3 need help
[12:29] <talldave2002> i am rying to install nvidia drivers, i get error you appear to de runnung xserver, i have tried to stop withsudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop but still get the error. any sugestions?
[12:29] <voltz> eva, soundjuicer works well
[12:29] <snowblink> !lame
[12:29] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[12:29] <shinobi2> Roger_The_Bum, unable to parse was the error
[12:29] <shinobi2> Roger_The_Bum, i am doing fsck
[12:30] <Milchmann> Roger_The_Bum, i'm just trying to access my winXP-pc via xvncviewer but since updating to edgy its not working anymore. it's says it's missing required fonts but i dont know what fonts i need and if that really is the problem
[12:30] <Roger_The_Bum> you shouldn't fsck around while using your box
[12:30] <Roger_The_Bum> (literally)
[12:30] <C-O-L-T> can not browse windows networks
[12:31] <Roger_The_Bum> Milchmann: there's that package... let me bring it up
[12:32] <Roger_The_Bum> hunf
[12:32] <eva> voltz does it do it to mp3 i can just find ogg files and wav files
[12:32] <Ron_> hey
[12:32] <GaiaX11> Do they stop sending free Ubuntu cds form Edgy on  in shiptit?
[12:32] <C-O-L-T> Can not access Windows Network in Edgy
[12:32] <flail> Is it possible to merge two partitions which are separated by another partition?
[12:32] <padowan> GaiaX11, yes
[12:32] <Ron_> congratulations on 6.10. When will it be in apt-get ?
[12:32] <Roger_The_Bum> Ron_: run sudo updatemanager -c
[12:32] <voltz> eva: I think you have to install mp3 support
[12:33] <voltz> sorry ,I misunderstood
[12:33] <voltz> !free-format
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about free-format - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <Roger_The_Bum> eva: you need to install a package
[12:33] <voltz> !freeformat
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freeformat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <Ron_> Roger_The_Bum: updatemanager not found
[12:33] <snoops> !restricted
[12:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:33] <Svenstaro> Any siteadmin here who can tell me why I am banned from the ubuntuforums?
[12:33] <snoops> is what you're after voltz
[12:33] <Roger_The_Bum> hmm
[12:33] <GaiaX11> Do they stop sending free Ubuntu cds from Edgy on  in shiptit? Or are they still preparing free copies?
[12:33] <cubny> hi guys, i'm new to UBUTUN, i need some help running LAMP
[12:33] <voltz> snoops, thats it, I wanted eva to read that :)
[12:34] <Roger_The_Bum> cubny: you'll need to install the appropriate packages first
[12:34] <Roger_The_Bum> !lamp
[12:34] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[12:34] <oleen> installed edgy yesterday, worked fine, but now i suddenly can't start graphical apps in X as user, only as root...
[12:34] <Roger_The_Bum> I need some ssh help
[12:34] <eva> thanks all i will read the page and see if i can make it
[12:35] <Roger_The_Bum> I'm sshing into my ubuntu box
[12:35] <Roger_The_Bum> when I find out that the key has changed
[12:35] <c|int> maybe I can mount need for speed  most wanted,
[12:35] <Roger_The_Bum> and I thus can't connect
[12:35] <c|int> I got the iso game, file and all, and can use cedega orwine
[12:35] <voltz> eva, Im new to Ubuntu but I searched google for mp3 + ubuntu and came up with good links
[12:35] <c|int> or wine
[12:35] <baliw_> can someboy help me install macromedia for my browser?
[12:35] <SteveC> Hi. I've upgraded to Edgy and firefox is crashing on every other page. What aorries me though is no crash reporting tool is popping up. Am I missing a package?
[12:35] <c|int> voltz:
[12:35] <cubny> tnx Roger_The_Bum
[12:35] <c|int> xmms, vlc, amarok,
[12:36] <Roger_The_Bum> cubny: no prob
[12:36] <s_heuser> hi... when browsing smb networks with nautilus, it displays only the standard icon for network computers... if i try to open it, it says "could not open ... , ... is no folder" (something like this) ... any ideas?
[12:36] <cubny> !lamp
[12:36] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[12:36] <Roger_The_Bum> yeah
[12:36] <elo23> I just installed edgy and my console isnt there strg alt f1-f6 results in a black screen any ideas why
[12:36] <c|int> xine
[12:36] <c|int> gxine
[12:36] <c|int> etc
[12:36] <c|int> voltz:
[12:36] <Administrator> shinobi2: any success or..
[12:36] <c|int> all kinds
[12:37] <Roger_The_Bum> elo23: try giving it a few seconds
[12:37] <cubny> :D
[12:37] <shinobi2> Roger_The_Bum, i am in recovery mode, it says i already have xfonts installed,  Administrator
[12:37] <talldave2002> I have been using a separate /home partition since i upgraded to dapper, I am having nightmares with installing nvidea drivers, how much stuff will I loose if i reinstall edgy, formatting my / partition, and using the same /home?
[12:37] <carp3> voltz: MPlayer nad gMplayer
[12:37] <elo23> I tryed
[12:37] <elo23> long
[12:37] <c|int> all kinds carp3 yep
[12:37] <Roger_The_Bum> talldave2002: you should probably backup to some server
[12:37] <Administrator> shinobi2: Do you use synaptic
[12:37] <snoops> talldave2002 /home is on a separate partition to /?
[12:37] <c|int> adacity etc
 *halp*
[12:37] <talldave2002> snoops: yes
[12:37] <Administrator> shinobi2: try re-install...
[12:38] <cubny> !mp3
[12:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:38] <voltz> carp3, eva was hte one wanting help :)
[12:38] <shinobi2> Administrator, can't sue synaptic, cause can't read in X.
[12:38] <voltz> *was the
[12:38] <shinobi2> Administrator, how do i reinstall?
[12:38] <baliw_> !browser
[12:38] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK), Opera (Qt), Konqueror (KDE/Qt), Links (terminal-based). HTTP servers: apache2
[12:38] <shinobi2> Administrator, how to remove xfonts then install xfonts?
[12:38] <baliw_> !macromedia
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macromedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <Roger_The_Bum> shinobi2: hmm
[12:39] <snoops> talldave2002, well your /home has all your app settings, as well as your files (hopefully - depends on you), and desktop etc
[12:39] <Administrator> shinobi2: remove is quite dangerous...it may remove too many things...
[12:39] <Roger_The_Bum> what does it say you are logged in
[12:39] <baliw_> !plugins
[12:39] <snoops> so you'd lose all the installed apps, and db's like mysql db's etc
[12:39] <Milchmann> Roger_The_Bum, i've installed vnc4server but thats not making any difference
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <Noia> how do I install the latest firefox on ubuntu? Perhaps then I can get flash working...
[12:39] <c|int> anyone, want to help with  a vmware issue
[12:39] <Administrator> shinobi2: apt-get --reinstall install xxxxxx
[12:39] <DaGame> What cmd can unzip bz2 files?
[12:39] <Roger_The_Bum> root@<something> or <something else>@<something>
[12:40] <shinobi2> Roger_The_Bum, when i login, it's all the text are squres instead of alphabets
[12:40] <flail> *sigh* Just installed Edgy using alternate CD, and my graphics isn't working at all... after the bootsplash, the screen turns black. I hear the GDM sounds, but I can't see anything. Switching to another tty doesn't work either - it just hangs. Any ideas? I think I'm going to take out a live CD and have a play with the xorg.conf
[12:40] <JosefK> DaGame: bunzip2, or if they're .tar.gz2, tar -xjvf 'filename.tar.bz2'
[12:40] <JosefK> DaGame: *.tar.bz2 rather
[12:40] <shinobi2> Administrator, i'll try apt-get --reinstall install xfonts
[12:40] <Roger_The_Bum> shinobi2: apt-get reinstall xfonts
[12:40] <shinobi2> Roger_The_Bum, ok, rebooting
[12:40] <Administrator> shinobi2: wait...did you see what locales does it use...
[12:40] <c|int> flail:
[12:40] <Roger_The_Bum> whoa
[12:40] <Administrator> shinobi2: missing locales may also cause the problem...
[12:40] <flail> yes, c|int?
[12:40] <c|int> what kind of video card do you have
[12:40] <Roger_The_Bum> I gotta go
[12:41] <flail> ATi X700XL
[12:41] <Roger_The_Bum> bye
[12:41] <flail> It should work with VESA though, albeit at a lower resolution
[12:41] <chrismhampson> does anyone know the keyb shortcut for testing the scale effect in XGL?
[12:41] <c|int> just sec
[12:41] <shinobi2> Administrator, something is really wrong, control--alt-f1 did not give console
[12:41] <flail> ok
[12:41] <shinobi2> Administrator, no, can't see locales, it's all squres
[12:41] <snoops> chrismhampson expose you mean? try f9
[12:41] <Administrator> shinobi2: kill the xserver
[12:42] <mista> can i upgrade gnome to 2.16?
[12:42] <c|int> II'm going help you install ati drivers
[12:42] <chrismhampson> snoops: tried and it doesn work
[12:42] <flail> cheers
[12:42] <sonics> hiho
[12:42] <chrismhampson> snoops: other things work like the cube etc
[12:42] <shinobi2> Administrator, ?how? control-alt-backspace?
[12:43] <Administrator> shinobi2: yeah
[12:43] <flail> Could I boot via live CD, download ati driver, move to ubuntu's / partition, chroot in and install it?
[12:43] <sonics> wahts the manager for resizing partitions and create new ones in ubuntu?
[12:43] <snoops> chrismhampson check the manager?
[12:43] <c|int> i know what its like
[12:43] <Zer0Ry0k0> I am trying to set up Twin View with the "RightOf" option, not "Clone".  It is working fine at the ubuntu login screen, but when I press [enter]  after giving it my user info it cuts the TV screen out.  Anyone have any ideas?
[12:43] <c|int> just.. boot up the ubuntu system
[12:43] <c|int> go to recovery
[12:43] <chrismhampson> snoops: also if i have an active window and press alt it shoots to another desktop...is this normal?
[12:43] <flail> ok - 1 sec
[12:43] <c|int> k :-)
[12:43] <snoops> nope, not normal
[12:43] <chrismhampson> snoops: how do i start the manager?
[12:43] <snoops> umm, is this beryl or compiz?
[12:44] <chrismhampson> compiz
[12:44] <flail> ok, at the console
[12:44] <misieq> is edgy eft dvd available yet?
[12:44] <snoops> I don't know the beryl name.. but compiz it's umm compiz settings manager...
[12:44] <flail> compiz is gset-compiz
[12:44] <flail> (control panel)
[12:44] <sonics> wahts the manager for resizing partitions and create new ones in ubuntu?!?
[12:44] <c|int> few secs
[12:44] <flail> ty
[12:44] <mista> whats the easyest why to upgrade to egde
[12:45] <JosefK> !upgrade | mista
[12:45] <ubotu> mista: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[12:45] <misieq> is edgy eft dvd available yet?
[12:45] <shinobi2> how do i upgrade to edgy?
[12:45] <flail> misieq - not afaik
[12:45] <Zer0Ry0k0> I am trying to set up Twin View with the "RightOf" option, not "Clone".  It is working fine at the ubuntu login screen, but when I press [enter]  after giving it my user info it cuts the TV screen out.  Anyone have any ideas?
[12:45] <misieq> flail: any idea when?
[12:45] <cubny> is there any chance i install mp3 codec on my machine?
[12:45] <cryptomatt> hey guys, I was trying to upgrade to eft.. I have the latest iso cdrom.. but when I give  gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" it says my system is uptodate
[12:46] <c|int> got it
[12:46] <misieq> !mp3
[12:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:46] <chrismhampson> snoops: i don see it in the gnome menu
[12:46] <flail> c|int: great
[12:46] <flail> misieq: probably a few days? I'll try to find out
[12:46] <sonics> hum , nobody knows on howto resize partitions and create a new ext3 one and such stuff ? whats command for that ;)
[12:46] <c|int> copying this in .. paste
[12:46] <snoops> chrismhampson try gset-compiz in terminal
[12:46] <c|int> !paste
[12:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:46] <DaGame> What's the name of the gnu compiler+tools package? Like the development chain package?
[12:47] <JosefK> DaGame: build-essential gcc g++ libstdc++6-dev
[12:47] <c|int> flail: , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28639/
[12:48] <flail> cheers c|int! I'll get back to you in a few minutes ;)
[12:48] <cryptomatt> any help with upgrading to Eft... I tried gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" but it says system is up-to-date what can I do.. I don't want it to download everything from the net, why can't it read from the cdrom
[12:48] <chrismhampson> snoops: no such command apparently
[12:48] <c|int> ;)
[12:48] <flail> what's ubuntu's dhcp client?
[12:48] <kihai> OK, now that a lot of people should have done the upgrade dapper-edgy I'd like to know if there were any problems that were experienced by several people. Who knows which parts in the update process seem to be a problem
[12:48] <c|int> ;)
[12:48] <flail> :)
[12:48] <Sionide> where are the md5 checksum thingys for the edgy iso? :s
[12:49] <flail> It's not dhcpcd, I know that ;)
[12:49] <c|int> dhcp
[12:49] <flail> nope
[12:49] <c|int> dchp
[12:49] <c|int> its dchp
[12:49] <JosefK> Sionide: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/MD5SUMS
[12:49] <wildchild> when will come official release of kubuntu 6.10 ?
[12:49] <c|int> dynamic control host protocol
[12:49] <Terminus> flail: dhcp3-client
[12:49] <Sionide> JosefK, ah ha thanks..
[12:49] <cryptomatt> whew.. I guess the traffic is so much that my message gets lost in it..
[12:49] <c|int> is what dchp stands for
[12:49] <mista> any point to upgrading to 6.10 from 6.06
[12:50] <flail> sorry terminus, that didn't work either
[12:50] <c|int> alot
[12:50] <JosefK> c|int: dynamic host configuration protocol...
[12:50] <c|int> go to edgy :)
[12:50] <cryptomatt> any help with upgrading to Eft... I tried gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" but it says system is up-to-date what can I do.. I don't want it to download everything from the net, why can't it read from the cdrom
[12:50] <c|int> :)
[12:50] <c|int> yep yep
[12:50] <c|int> studying the OSI model too
[12:50] <c|int> want to have tria on that :)
[12:50] <c|int> took test on it too
[12:50] <JosefK> hehe#
[12:50] <c|int> ;)
[12:51] <c|int> aI was just mistaken is all
[12:51] <sonics> hum , nobody knows on howto resize partitions and create a new ext3 one and such stuff ? whats command for that ;)
[12:51] <flail> In other words, I've got my NIC up, but I want it to grab an address from my router via DHCP ;)
[12:51] <Terminus> flail: that's the package name. if you're looking for commands, that's a different story.
[12:51] <flail> ah
[12:51] <c|int> okay :-)
[12:51] <flail> thanks anyway
[12:51] <JosefK> flail: indeed, have a look at your /etc/network/interfaces file
[12:51] <saeko> sonics: have you tried gparted ?
[12:51] <c|int> reconfigure network
[12:51] <saeko> !gparted | sonics
[12:51] <ubotu> sonics: gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[12:51] <c|int> want to do that?
[12:51] <Terminus> flail: edit your /etc/network/interfaces and put auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp there
[12:51] <c|int> will set it to dhcp
[12:51] <JosefK> flail: there should be a line "iface eth0 inet dhcp" and "auto eth0"
[12:51] <flail> cheers
[12:52] <cryptomatt>  any help with upgrading to Eft... I tried gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" but it says system is up-to-date what can I do.. I don't want it to download everything from the net, why can't it read from the cdrom
[12:52] <c|int> k 1 sec
[12:52] <sonics> saeko: thnx
[12:52] <Terminus> change eth0 if your if is different
[12:52] <c|int> sorry high hee
[12:52] <c|int> doin cool chit though
[12:52] <c|int> ;)
[12:52] <c|int> lets reconfigure the network then
[12:52] <kyja> omg
[12:53] <c|int> want the book on it?
[12:53] <kyja> I cant access menus or windows in a dock.
[12:53] <monokrome> yo
[12:53] <c|int> Sams.Ubuntu.Unleashed.Aug.2006
[12:53] <eva> did try to make sound juicer to make mp3 but it cam out as wav
[12:53] <cryptomatt> yooo hoo... can anyone HELP me.
[12:53] <kihai> OK, now that a lot of people should have done the upgrade dapper-edgy I'd like to know if there were any problems that were experienced by several people. Who knows which parts in the update process seem to be a problem
[12:53] <c|int> sending
[12:54] <flail> cryptomatt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[12:54] <cryptomatt> I tried gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" but it says system is up-to-date what can I do.. I don't want it to download everything from the net, why can't it read from the cdrom
[12:54] <chrismhampson> snoops: found it! its actually F8...just wondering if my keyboard layout is messed up or something
[12:54] <Svenstaro> Any siteadmin here who can tell me why I am banned from the ubuntuforums?
[12:54] <cryptomatt> flail: saw the release notes.. don't want to try and download all the packages again...
[12:54] <Mirv> kihai: update-manager hangs with some locales/languages it would seem.. a problem in python-apt apparently
[12:55] <snoops> likely so chrismhampson if alt is doing what it's doing
[12:55] <Noia> has anyone gotten sound to work with flash?
[12:55] <mnepton> Svenstaro: not an admin, but it may be because of something you said? *shrug*
[12:55] <mnepton> Noia: Flash 7 or 9?
[12:55] <cryptomatt> flail: I tried apt-get cdrom add too.. it adds the cdrom but doesn't detect any new packages
[12:55] <nikin> hy
[12:55] <Noia> mnepton, 9
[12:55] <chrismhampson> snoops: in my thefuture script...i changed the keyb country to .uk but i guessing it should be .gb?
[12:55] <mnepton> Noia: haven't tried it
[12:55] <kihai> Mirv: If that's all, I'm happy. Shouldn't be a big prob to fix this, no?
[12:56] <Svenstaro> I dont say anything negative in a verbal void form ever on public places so i wonder why i have been banned
[12:56] <trevXOR> Hey, how can I format my usb disk in ubuntu breezy?
[12:56] <snoops> chrismhampson, no idea sorry
[12:56] <flail> hmm... no resolv.conf?
[12:56] <mnepton> Svenstaro: could be abuse from your ip/domain
[12:56] <flail> My NIC still refuses to work. :/
[12:56] <Mirv> kihai: well I'd guess, I hope it can be fixed so that when the 6.06's update-manager fetches for the installation program, it'd be possible to fetch a newer version of the specific program causing the problem
[12:56] <ArmedKing> trevXOR: mkfs.*** /dev/sda*
[12:56] <Svenstaro> mhh i got a dynamic ip, maybe just reeeal bad luck with this ip?
[12:56] <Mirv> kihai: other than that, I've mainly heard some reports about some universe package update problems, but nothing major
[12:57] <chrismhampson> snoops: final question...do you have to always alt-ctrl  left click to open the applications menu
[12:57] <mnepton> Svenstaro: could be. try powering off the cable/dsl modem for a bit and then getting a new DHCP llease.
[12:57] <c|int> well, you want me to send you the book or what?
[12:57] <weijie902> hi
[12:57] <Mirv> kihai: I've reported the bug and there are duplicate(s), no idea if it will be taken seriously or not (but it _might_ affect thousands of people)
[12:57] <flail> in /etc/network/interfaces I have: "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" (on separate lines), as well as the loopback lines
[12:57] <Svenstaro> k ty mnepton, gonna do that
[12:57] <weijie902> i installed ubuntu server but i cant type anything @ the login prompt
[12:57] <weijie902> my keyboard is plugged in btw
[12:58] <kihai> I already did a test update on another pc and I also had some broken xserver related packages which could be fixed after a dpkg-reconfigure
[12:58] <flail> patch cable is plugged in, and it works.. But nada :/ It worked just fine on dapper.
[12:58] <Svenstaro> weijie902: ALT+F2 ?
[12:58] <c|int> lets edit the repositories then
[12:58] <c|int> lets reinstall ubuntu, to edgy :)
[12:58] <weijie902> Svenstaro: ??
[12:58] <TLE> I have a AMD 64 +3200 processor. Is the k7 the best choise for a kernel for me? I mean there's no wierd issues because it's not the standard or anything like that ?
[12:58] <ayaa> is there any way to let my server display some monitoring information on its screen and stay locked so no one can use the keyboard to enter the shell, beacause as i know if an application is running on the stdout, the shell should be unlocked
[12:58] <c|int> what ya say?
[12:59] <flail> any ideas? JosefK, Terminus?
[12:59] <nikin> edgy is not mature enough for dayli use IMO.
[12:59] <Svenstaro> weijie902: Did you try pressing ALT+F2 to get another terminal ?
[12:59] <Mirv> TLE: best choice is 64-bit ubuntu with 64-bit kernel, I'd guess. but if you want to use 32-bit for some reason then k7 might be the best option, yes
[12:59] <Svenstaro> To see if your keyboard works at all
[12:59] <mista> any good place's fro mplay skins
[12:59] <mista> any good place's fro mplayer skins
[12:59] <Khamael> when will #ubuntu+1 be back?
[12:59] <weijie902> Svenstaro: nope, i thought it was Ctrl+Alt+F2
[12:59] <Svenstaro> You can do both
[12:59] <c|int> pasting in , paste
[12:59] <weijie902> Svenstaro: Ctrl+Alt+F2 does not work
[01:00] <c|int> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28641/
[01:00] <weijie902> Svenstaro: neither does "raising sleepy elephants is utterly boring"
[01:00] <flail> dmesg says that eth0 is up and set at full duplex... Pinging the router doesn't work though
[01:00] <TLE> Mirv: Yeah the last time i checked there were still to many things that required tweaking in 64 bit Ubuntu so I'm sticking with 32 bit. But is it the same quality as the default ?
[01:00] <shinobi2> what's the command to install kubuntu
[01:01] <c|int> so lets edit the sources.list, and redo the whole system fla
[01:01] <c|int> flail
[01:01] <flail> no NIC errors in /var/logs/messages
[01:01] <weijie902> (alt+sysrq+r,s,e,i,u,b)
[01:01] <JosefK> flail: have you tried installing the 'linux-generic' package?
[01:01] <c|int> and get the ati drivers goin on :)
[01:01] <JosefK> flail: you could be missing the proprietary drivers required for your NIC
[01:01] <c|int> its all good, tell me how soon you want to do this
[01:01] <flail> c|int - I can't, because I'm not on the internet
[01:01] <nikin> shimnobi: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:01] <Svenstaro> weijie902, mhhh strange, did you try another keyboard/ can you edit grub while booting? does it react to that?
[01:01] <c|int> okay
[01:01] <c|int> and I"m going help you do this
[01:01] <Mirv> TLE: things need tweaking if you need non-free software, yes, and it's not going to change
[01:01] <c|int> :-)
[01:01] <flail> JosefK: But it worked on dapper straight after the installation?
[01:01] <weijie902> Svenstaro: yes, i can edit grub while booting
[01:01] <JosefK> flail: obscure, is the interface listed in 'ifconfig' ?
[01:01] <trevXOR> ArmedKing, thanks. Should I be filling those ***? bash is prompting "command not found"
[01:01] <c|int> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:02] <c|int> lets change this :-)
[01:02] <flail> JosefK: yes. And the card has been detected (as in lspci, dmesg, etc)
[01:02] <c|int> whats your router set too :)
[01:02] <Svenstaro> weijie902, I can't quite remember what choices you've got with the serverversion but can you do a safeboot?
[01:02] <JosefK> flail: after you've made that change to /etc/network/interfaces, try 'sudo ifdown eth0 && sleep 3 && sudo ifup eth0'
[01:02] <c|int> static or dhcp, pppoe etc
[01:02] <c|int> ?
[01:02] <shinobi2> wow.... 6.10 is finally released? cool, Administrator ,
[01:02] <JosefK> flail: assuming eth0's the correct interface
[01:02] <c|int> its been out
[01:02] <flail> I've already restart the nic (ifconfig eth0 down following by ifconfig eth0 up).. still no go :(
[01:03] <weijie902> Svenstaro: safeboot doesnt work i think, ill try and come back
[01:03] <JosefK> flail: hmm, 'sudo dhclient eth0' ?
[01:03] <ArtVandalae> Anjuta 2.0.2 is used in Edgy instead of 1.2.4a :\
[01:03] <c|int> flail
[01:03] <JosefK> flail: try forcing it to use DHCP ;) any link lights up?
[01:03] <c|int> lets rebuild the system, whats your router say
[01:03] <TLE> Mirv: Yeah I know is not an Ubuntu issue. But I see no reason why that shouldn't change eventually. I mean aren't some of the problems simply due to wrong code? That could be fixed when anough people use 64 bit for it to be a priority
[01:03] <c|int> flail
[01:03] <flail> JosefK: No lights ;) Just tried your method though, and it's hanging on DHCPDISCOVER
[01:03] <c|int> whats your router say about what protocol its using
[01:03] <flail> Yes, c|int?
[01:03] <c|int> dhcp, static, pppoe?
[01:03] <c|int> etc
[01:04] <eva> someone that has some time to walk me thru the way to rip mp3 pls
[01:04] <JosefK> flail: hmm, so it isn't even bringing the interface up :/ I'm stumped, frankly
[01:04] <Thib_G> hello
[01:04] <Administrator> shinobi2: what happed buddy
[01:04] <Thib_G> I upgraded to Edgy Eft yesterday
[01:04] <flail> I'll try setting a static IP... It's worth a try :)
[01:04] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows a IM client for linux that supports audio conversation?
[01:04] <reiki> what's the best way to backup my home directory? I have a separate physical drive I can back it up to.
[01:04] <c|int> hey JosefK, I got it.. I did :-)
[01:04] <Thib_G> but... how to install xen ?
[01:04] <Tristan_> guys, I have a problem after upgrading. I can get up to my login session screen but I can't start any session. Neither KDe, nor gnome, nor Xgl
[01:04] <wildchild> Is there a way to upgrade kubuntu to the latest version and not to download iso file?
[01:04] <Tristan_> What can I do?
[01:04] <JosefK> flail: it won't make much of a difference if you have no link though, what happens when you run 'sudo ifup eth0' ?
[01:04] <Administrator> shinobi2: Are things working or...
[01:04] <ramvi> Hellau! I removed /bin/sh what do I do now? I'm chrooted into the installed version - where I removed sh
[01:04] <JosefK> flail: by the way, there aren't any more interfaces in 'sudo ifconfig -a' are there?  maybe eth1, eth2 or similar?
[01:05] <c|int> JosefK:
[01:05] <Mirv> TLE: yeah, naturally there might be some such problems also, but I don't think there's anymore with 64-bit ubuntu than 32-bit ubuntu. all the Ubuntu supported platforms (32-bit PC, 64-bit PC, PowerPC/Power5) have quite equal quality in my opinion
[01:05] <JosefK> c|int: yup, sup?
[01:05] <c|int> i was tellin flail, check his router settings,
[01:05] <JosefK> c|int: oh,s orry man
[01:05] <flail> JosefK: It hangs on DHCPDISCOVER. After five tries, it says 'No DHCPOFFERS received'. communication problems with the router by the looks of it
[01:05] <c|int> its cool :-)
[01:05] <flail> JosefK: No. Just eth0 and lo
[01:05] <TLE> Mirv: Do you know if the k7 kernel is "the same quality"="no more buggy" than the standard
[01:05] <c|int> problem with your router it seems flail
[01:05] <flail> c|int: The router settings are fine.
[01:06] <flail> :)
[01:06] <TLE> Mirv: Oh no I meant code in the non-free software
[01:06] <c|int> checkt them then or reboot router :-)
[01:06] <ramvi> How do I restore /bin/sh - anyone?
[01:06] <c|int> and lets get you using edgy
[01:06] <Mirv> TLE: ah, yes definitely there shouldn't be any problems. it's more like rearranging of machine code by the compiler, not functional difference
[01:06] <BooBar> eva change the output prefs from the edit/preferences tab in sound juicer to ogg
[01:06] <eva> Boobar do you see me in private
[01:06] <BooBar> no
[01:06] <edulix> why doesn't the installer support reiserfs in edgy?
[01:06] <Thib_G> How to install xen on Edgy Eft, please ?
[01:06] <c|int> you can do it
[01:06] <Mirv> TLE: yes, if there's better quality, and more, non-free software things will get better from the user point of view in 64-bit
[01:06] <c|int> xfs too ya want :-)
[01:07] <eva> Boobar i dont like to have ogg i like to have mp3
[01:07] <c|int> use.. alternative cd, its alot better for customizing :-)
[01:07] <JebJoya> hey, I've half sorted a Cardbus wireless card problem, just need one more thing if anyone's able?
[01:07] <c|int> or. heck, even set up a server, and do it off there too.. more custom
[01:07] <TLE> Mirv: ok thanks
[01:07] <edulix> c|lint: no it doesn't work to me
[01:07] <c|int> what doesn't
[01:08] <flail> Aha! I've just realised that it's using the wrong subnet mask (netmask) - brb!
[01:08] <ehird> i miss something from windows: clicking my middle mouse button gives me a circle with up down left right arrows, moving my mouse in that direction scrolls that way until i click it again - only in scrollable areas of course
[01:08] <c|int> oh yeah?
[01:08] <c|int> ;)
[01:08] <edulix> it says, in step 5 of 6, ("Preparing mount points"), "Theres is no root filesystem"
[01:08] <c|int> checked your router settings eh?
[01:08] <Administrator> eva: why that, you can try converting ogg to mp3 by using mp32ogg
[01:08] <c|int> ;)
[01:08] <eva> Boobar sorry i am not registerd yet
[01:08] <edulix> but there is one defined: hda3, with reiserfs
[01:08] <boni> does anybody know how to get bluetooth working on Dapper???
[01:08] <flail> Nah, checked my ifconfig settings ;)
[01:08] <Administrator> JebJoya: what is that issue, still...
[01:08] <c|int> well then ;)
[01:08] <weijie902> back
[01:08] <eva> Boobar so i cant write in private
[01:08] <ehird> i disagree with the suggestion to convert mp3s to ogg mind,
[01:09] <ehird> it loses quality again
[01:09] <c|int> change the system, like I said :)
[01:09] <weijie902> it seems that the kernel does not detect my keyboard
[01:09] <flail> I get a problem when trying to change netmask manually... Hmm... "SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address" :/
[01:09] <shinobi2> Administrator, sorry, was away trying to fix it.
[01:09] <ehird> wav --> mp3 (lots of quality lost) --> ogg (more quality lost)
[01:09] <JebJoya> When I plug in the card, it lights up.  I go into admin>networking, it shows the wireless card (which is nice), but when i click the drop down menu with network name, it kinda hangs
[01:09] <edulix> c|int: but i want reiser lol
[01:09] <Administrator> shinobi2: did you succeed or..
[01:09] <c|int> redo the system, with alternative cdc
[01:09] <c|int> cd
[01:09] <shinobi2> Administrator, i am downloading 6.10, i can upgrade it right? or do a fresh install?
[01:09] <c|int> trust me :-)
[01:09] <shinobi2> Administrator, no, failed
[01:09] <JebJoya> someone said something about rutilt?
[01:10] <c|int> ac cd
[01:10] <weijie902> hi all, ubuntu server 6.10 doesnt detect my keyboard
[01:10] <flail> ok, I'm allowed to change netmask now that static ip has been set
[01:10] <shinobi2> Administrator, what's my best option?
[01:10] <Administrator> shinobi2: you can upgrade from the console window
[01:10] <c|int> yes
[01:10] <c|int> ctrl + alt + F2
[01:10] <Administrator> shinobi2: I dont like formatting disk again for that..
[01:10] <c|int> hee :P
[01:11] <c|int> ctrl + alt + F7 gets you back
[01:11] <ramvi> anyone know how to restore /bin/sh?
[01:11] <shinobi2> Administrator, just pop in the cdr and boot from cd, then click on upgrade?
[01:11] <flail> How would one go aobut setting the gateway's ip using ifconfig? I thought it was 'ifconfig eth0 gateway x.x.x.x', but that doesn't seem to work..
[01:11] <mista> how can i make my video icon into a pic of the video file
[01:11] <edulix> c|lint: I have downlaoded two cds today (first 6.06, then i noticed that that was dapper and then I downloaded 6.10) and I'm not likely to download it again
[01:11] <Terminus> flail: you don't you use route.
[01:11] <edulix> I'll try to delete it and redo it with reiserfs andd see how it works
[01:11] <c|int> I'm using edgy
[01:11] <shinobi2> Administrator, i have dual boot, i don't want to format disk, also running vmware
[01:11] <flail> ah, thanks terminus
[01:11] <JebJoya> shinobi2: gksu "update-manager -c"
[01:11] <flail> it's been a while since I used that command ;)
[01:11] <nikin> hy eva
[01:11] <c|int> time to install an xchat for console
[01:12] <JebJoya> from the command prompt, it worked for me :)
[01:12] <Administrator> shinobi2:  you dont need to restart, rather you can add the repositories in /etc/apt/source.list
[01:12] <shinobi2> JebJoya, ? that will upgrade my machine?
[01:12] <IndyBC> why when I upgrade (i have edgy) it says thatL
[01:12] <siccness> c|int: hmm?
[01:12] <IndyBC> * that:
[01:12] <boni> can anyone tell me how to get bluetooth going on Dapper??
[01:12] <Terminus> flail: route add default gw xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx i think.
[01:12] <JebJoya> yeah, from 6.06 to 6.10 i know at least
[01:12] <IndyBC> The following packages have been kept back:
[01:12] <Administrator> shinobi2: Fresh installation requries formating the disk or..
[01:12] <IndyBC>   hpijs libggi2 mplayer python-adns python-clientcookie python-egenix-mxproxy
[01:12] <IndyBC>   python-egenix-mxstack python-egenix-mxtexttools python-egenix-mxtools
[01:12] <IndyBC>   python-gadfly python-htmlgen python-htmltmpl python-jabber python-kjbuckets
[01:12] <IndyBC>   python-ldap python-mysqldb python-osd python-pam python-pexpect python-pgsql
[01:12] <IndyBC>   python-profiler python-pylibacl python-pyopenssl python-pyxattr
[01:12] <IndyBC>   python-simpletal python-soappy python-sqlite python-syck python-xmpp
[01:12] <IndyBC> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 29 not upgraded.
[01:12] <edulix> it worked!
[01:12] <bird> ls
[01:12] <nikin> !bluetooth
[01:12] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[01:12] <Terminus> IndyBC: please don't flood.
[01:12] <edulix> that was an error in the installer probably
[01:12] <IndyBC> Terminus: ok, sorry
[01:12] <shinobi2> Administrator, how do i add to repository in /etc/apt/sources.list? what's the path?
[01:13] <c|int> tryin to remember how
[01:13] <Administrator> IndyBC: Tell me where are you now...
[01:13] <JebJoya> it uses the updater thing allowing it to pick up new versions of ubuntu as well
[01:13] <flail> At least I can ping the router now!
[01:13] <yakumo> hello any idea what is Qt 3.1.1
[01:13] <siccness> c|int: whats xchat for console?
[01:13] <JebJoya> i left it on overnight
[01:13] <JebJoya> took a while
[01:13] <JebJoya> :S
[01:13] <Administrator> IndyBC: If xserver is loaded just kill that...
[01:13] <flail> Cheers Terminus ;)
[01:13] <c|int> :-)
[01:13] <rc-1>  can you have a GTK::table overtop of a GTK::image somehow?
[01:13] <bird>  
[01:13] <eva> Boobar it say my nik is allready registerd
[01:13] <yakumo> hello anyone know about Qt 3.1.1 is?
[01:13] <Administrator> IndyBC: not for you, sorry.
[01:13] <gop_> any here know what this error means
[01:13] <gop_> 14317: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[01:13] <edulix> yakumo: yes
[01:13] <c|int> he he. gettin ready to install fluxbox
[01:13] <Terminus> flail: cheers. =)
[01:13] <Administrator> shinobi2:  If xserver is loaded just kill that...
[01:14] <edulix> yakumo: Qt it's the graphical library for KDE
[01:14] <JebJoya> right, anyone know about wireless pcmcia cards in ubuntu?
[01:14] <eva> nikin hello
[01:14] <flail> What's the equivalent of resolve.conf in Ubuntu though? ;)
[01:14] <boni> !Qt
[01:14] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[01:14] <huangzuobin> bird,
[01:14] <flail> *resolv.conf
[01:14] <IndyBC> Administrator: ok :)
[01:14] <yakumo> is qt present on ubuntu dapper?
[01:14] <Terminus> bird: #ubuntu-cn
[01:14] <Noia> I need some help getting flash sound working on flash 9 ff2
[01:14] <bird>   huangzuobin
[01:14] <Administrator> shinobi2: Alt+Cltr+Backspace, hope you know that :-)
[01:14] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, you can install it
[01:14] <c|int> is pekwm cool
[01:15] <jhasse> which folder does the picture screensaver use???
[01:15] <shinobi2> Administrator, yes, i know about alt-control-backspace, but did not work
[01:15] <Terminus> flail: it's still resolv.conf =)
[01:15] <yakumo> i download the tar.gz qt, is it for dapper drake?
[01:15] <huangzuobin> bird,hei#ubuntu-cn
[01:15] <Administrator> shinobi2: try Alt+Ctrl+F1
[01:15] <shinobi2> that failed
[01:15] <bird>  
[01:16] <Noia> I need some help getting flash sound working on flash 9 & firefox 2
[01:16] <IndyBC> any help?
[01:16] <yakumo> or is there any repositories for qt?
[01:16] <BooBar> shinobi2: what happens when you try
[01:16] <shinobi2> Administrator, cat-ing vnc.exe screwed up my fonts pretty good
[01:16] <flail> Terminus - in /etc?
[01:16] <IndyBC> why it "keeps back" some python-related packages?
[01:16] <Terminus> flail: yep.
[01:16] <shinobi2> BooBar, nothing, i am still on my current screen
[01:16] <flail> Terminus: cat /etc/resolv.conf : No such file or directory
[01:16] <flail> *gulp*
[01:16] <c|int> ctrl + alt + F2
[01:17] <BooBar> ctrl+alt+Backspace dosent do anything
[01:17] <Terminus> flail: hmmm... write one? =D
[01:17] <flail> Terminus - Lol!
[01:17] <shinobi2> i am just going to tar -cvf /home into flash drive and just reformat my /hda3 and install 6.10 fresh
[01:17] <Sionide> i thought edgy had XGL/Compiz etc installed by default? if so, how do you get it working from the live cd?
[01:17] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, what application are you trying to install?
[01:17] <huangzuobin> bird/join #ubuntu-cn
[01:17] <yakumo> qdvdauthor
[01:17] <Terminus> flail: AFAIK, resolv.conf is automatically generated by init.d/networking but since you're configuring manually, it might not have been generated.
[01:18] <boni> !sedega
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sedega - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <Terminus> !cedega | boni
[01:18] <ubotu> boni: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[01:18] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, have you got universe enabled?
[01:18] <shinobi2> does 6.10 looks any different form 6.06?
[01:18] <gop_> !cifs
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <jhasse> Sionide, i think it isn't
[01:18] <siccness> shinobi2: yes
[01:18] <flail> Terminus - Ah, thanks. Just created one :)
[01:18] <Terminus> hmmm... i should write a factoid for cifs
[01:18] <bird> huangzuobin    
[01:18] <shinobi2> siccness, like a lot or not that much
[01:18] <JebJoya> what's the command to get up all the peripherals you've got connected?
[01:19] <siccness> shinobi2: a bit
[01:19] <JebJoya> (so i can find what wireless card make is)?
[01:19] <yakumo> im not sure what is universe enabled.. is
[01:19] <Sionide> JebJoya, lspci  ?
[01:19] <JebJoya> that's the one
[01:19] <JebJoya> thx
[01:19] <shinobi2> siccness, do you have a screen shot for me to check it out?
[01:19] <siccness> shinobi2: Edgy looks a lil crappier
[01:19] <siccness> Nope, google-image it.
[01:19] <Sionide> JebJoya, lspci | grep wireless  <-maybe
[01:19] <shinobi2> haha
[01:20] <DarkMageZ> !pastebin > yakumo
[01:20] <Terminus> flail: have fun. =)
[01:20] <boni> !bluetooth
[01:20] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[01:20] <JebJoya> Sionide, it's fine, I knew it was the last one in the list :)
[01:20] <JebJoya> thx
[01:20] <Sionide> !xgl
[01:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:20] <JebJoya> so, let''s try this again... :S
[01:20] <morghanphoenix> Would my DVD-Rom not being listed in fstab cause problems, like system crashes when I load DVDs?
[01:20] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, if you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin, i'll show you how to change it to enable universe. or are you running edgy eft by any chance?
[01:20] <flail> Cheers Terminus ;) I still can't ping google.com though! Hehe
[01:21] <yakumo> im running dapper drake
[01:21] <flail> I can ping all other hosts on my network, but nothing outside it..
[01:21] <Acke_ubu> !gpg
[01:21] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[01:21] <flail> Seems like a DNS issue... on the client (Ubuntu)
[01:21] <JebJoya> I've got a "RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI," which is now being recognised thanks to edgy, BUT it can't seem to connect to a wireless network - any ideas?
[01:21] <yakumo> sorry, where where can i find pastebin?
[01:21] <reiki> !paste
[01:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:22] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[01:22] <morghanphoenix> nobody on the case of the missing fstab dvd entry?
[01:22] <yakumo> thnks ill paste it now
[01:22] <flail> Hmm, that's odd... It's not a DNS issue. I ran 'nslookup google.com', and I found its IP address, but it doesn't work when I ping that either... So I'm guessing it's not a DNS issue... Maybe a routing one?
[01:24] <JebJoya> I've got a "RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI," which is now being recognised thanks to edgy, BUT it can't seem to connect to a wireless network - someone mentioned finding rutilt yesterday, do I need to do that, or is there another way?
[01:24] <simtower> hello, vmware is broken by ubuntu 6.10... anyone know a fix?
[01:25] <reiki> simtower: define "broken" please
[01:25] <simtower> reiki: infinite loop consuming all cpu on startup
[01:25] <JebJoya> hmm...
[01:25] <simtower> /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[01:25] <simtower> output on the console
[01:25] <reiki> simtower, did you reinstall VMware from scratch? Or was this a 6.06 to 6.10 upgrade?
[01:26] <simtower> i installed vmware server on 6.06 and then upgraded to 6.10
[01:26] <reiki> simtower, you almost definitely need to reinstall vmware. We talking VMware workstation?
[01:26] <reiki> oh.. server
[01:26] <simtower> no, vmware server
[01:26] <reiki> same same
[01:27] <simtower> i did the update script to add the kernel modules but i will try a full reinstall
[01:27] <reiki> simtower, I am preparing to upgrade 6.06 to 6.10 and one of the things on my list post-upgrade is reinstall VMWare as I know it will need to be done
[01:27] <Ron_> has anyone had luck apt-get'ing Edgy ?
[01:27] <reiki> simtower, remember you'll need the kernel sources to reinstall
[01:28] <thandavarayan> Ron_: what do you mean exactly?
[01:28] <yakumo> im past my sources.list on pastebin, what should i do next:) ?
[01:28] <simtower> it used the kernel sources already to update the modules
[01:28] <Ron_> thandavarayan: i mean, when i do apt-get dist-upgrade, after i did apt-get update, i tells me nothing to update
[01:28] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, you should wait till it loads here. i picked the slow pastebin on accident
[01:28] <fiete> how can I stop update-grub changing my kopts to root=UUID=.... ?
[01:28] <reiki> simtower, please let me know how a reinstall works as if VMWare won't work I may have to postpone upgrading to Edgy
[01:28] <yakumo> ok
[01:28] <thandavarayan> Ron_: Are you trying to upgrade from dapper -> edgy or...
[01:29] <Alzi2_> Hey. Why doesn't gvba (a Gameboy emulator) see my gamepad? I can't configure it to respond to the buttons
[01:29] <Tristan_> guys, I have a problem after upgrading. I can get up to my login session screen but I can't start any session. Neither KDe, nor gnome, nor Xgl. but, if I use the command line and do a startx i'm logged onto gnome. Anyone can help me?
[01:29] <thandavarayan> Ron_: Make sure you have repos in your /etc/apt/source.list
[01:29] <Ron_> thandavarayan: yes
[01:29] <Mukunda> Hrmm, installed Edgy now, but still can't get ipw3945 working.
[01:30] <simtower> reiki: I will let you know in five minutes... i am in trouble if it doesn't because my homework for today is on a VM ;)
[01:30] <thandavarayan> Ron_: repos, pointing to edgy packages or..
[01:30] <Ron_> thandavarayan: i do, cause when i do update, it lists a ton of them
[01:30] <Ron_> thandavarayan: ah
[01:30] <thandavarayan> Ron_: when was your last update, I mean dist-upgrade
[01:30] <Acke_ubu> Hey, how do i use gpg?
[01:31] <IndyBC> Why when I upgrade, some (python-related) packages are being "kept back"?
[01:31] <IndyBC> And they are "not upgraded"?
[01:31] <Ron_> thandavarayan: i havn't added the dgy repos, thats why. Stupid me.. thanks!
[01:31] <thandavarayan> Acke_ubu: may be www.ubuntuguide.org helps in that regard or...
[01:31] <Ron_> edgy*
[01:31] <reiki> !ubuntuguide
[01:31] <thandavarayan> Ron_: okay. ;-)
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <Alzi2_> Guys, Why doesn't gvba (a Gameboy emulator) see my gamepad? I can't configure it to respond to the buttons. I tried linking /dev/input/js0 to /dev/js0. Still no results :(
[01:32] <tomcatt> !ubotu edgy
[01:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[01:32] <thandavarayan> ubotu: www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about www.ubuntuguide.org - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <|Matt|> Can Ubuntu be installed by just using one partition?
[01:33] <Ron_> what do i need ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard for?
[01:33] <Ron_> been managing just fine without so far, the wiki says i need it to upgrade to edgy
[01:33] <thandavarayan> |Matt|: Means...can you tell what other partitions you have
[01:34] <Session> Hi. I want to install ubuntu on my Toshiba Sattelite M-40. But I can't find updated examples of installs. All I can find is http://linux.toshiba-dme.co.jp/linux/eng/pc/satM45_memo.htm but this seems scetchy? Any pointers? Will it work? Thank's for all good answers :)
[01:34] <n_3o> Greetings, can anyone help me by telling me the command for configuring xwindows .. sudo xorg?
[01:34] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, you already have universe enabled :) all you need to do is open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install qdvdauthor"
[01:34] <IndyBC> Hello. Why when I upgrade, some (python-related) packages are being "kept back" and they are "not upgraded"?
[01:34] <thandavarayan> Ron_: what or why...do you need...
[01:34] <IndyBC> when I apt-get upgrade
[01:34] <|Matt|> I have two drives, the C drive has Windows on it and I can resize E down by about 10gb
[01:34] <thandavarayan> IndyBC: may be...
[01:35] <Ron_> thandavarayan: why do i need it
[01:35] <thandavarayan> IndyBC: that is not a big thing to worry.
[01:35] <IndyBC> thandavarayan: ok.
[01:35] <thandavarayan> Ron_: minimal is for server
[01:35] <Ron_> is what i mean :)
[01:35] <Ron_> hmm
[01:35] <n_3o> does anyone know how to get gui running?
[01:35] <n_3o> its not running on my pc?
[01:35] <n_3o> need to configure xwindoze
[01:35] <n_3o> apparently
[01:35] <thandavarayan> IndyBC: if your system runs without any glitch.
[01:36] <|Matt|> thandavarayan: is it compulsory to have more than one partition to install ubuntu or can it just use one large one?
[01:36] <thandavarayan> Ron_: and so for desktop and standard. ;-)
[01:36] <yakumo> yes regarding the apt-get install qdvdauthor. do i still need the qt?
[01:36] <bobbobowitz> can anyone help me with my ipw2200?  I've tried all the forum pages I could find, I downloaded the drivers/firmware/subsystem from the sourceforge site, did a make && sudo make install, but I can't find where the "/lib/usr/hotplug/firmware" or whichever is
[01:36] <simtower> reiki: certainly it doesn't work without some screwing around... after uninstalling the old vmware and then trying to install new, it says "a previous installation has been detected. failure. execution aborted."
[01:36] <|Matt|> do I need a separate one for swap?
[01:36] <thandavarayan> |Matt|: For example if you machine has C: D: and E:, you can free up E: partition
[01:36] <Ron_> thandavarayan: alright thanks
[01:37] <reiki> simtower, ack.... I have always just reinstalled over the old one
[01:37] <|Matt|> yeah, but if I resize E then can I just install Ubuntu on that or do I need to make another one from it?
[01:37] <simtower> reiki, i tried that first, it also choked
[01:37] <|Matt|> because I've seen people making swap and home partitions and I'm now sure about that
[01:38] <reiki> simtower, ok...well this is not good news so far
[01:38] <|Matt|> *not
[01:38] <mariusz_k> hi
[01:38] <thandavarayan> |Matt|: You can do it on E: itself, while installing you have further split for root and home
[01:38] <yakumo> because everytime i use the qdvdauthor when i start to play the movie it alwys crush.?
[01:38] <mariusz_k> i need new repositories
[01:38] <|Matt|> so can Ubuntu do it for me?
[01:38] <|Matt|> can I just pick how big they are?
[01:38] <thandavarayan> |Matt|: If you dont know how to, you can follow the instructions during the installation.
[01:38] <|Matt|> ok, thanks :)
[01:39] <Sublimal-> crimsun: I have compiled it myself now, but it still doesnt work
[01:39] <|Matt|> how big does root need to be?
[01:39] <Sublimal-> crimsun: but my alsamixer has changed
[01:39] <thandavarayan> |Matt|: It does not matter about the size, only thing you must make sure is that you have minimum requirements...
[01:39] <nothing> hello everyone, i have a very slow booting edgy release, fresh install, the kernel seems to hang at probing hdc, hdd and ide1, as i don't have those i disabled them via kernel line, but the problem remains
[01:39] <nothing> any ideas? or may edgy just be buggy?
[01:39] <thandavarayan> |Matt|: It depends upon, what you are going to install
[01:39] <mariusz_k> need help
[01:40] <|Matt|> well, I just need space for some programs and Ubuntu really
[01:40] <finalbeta> This nautilus bug is nasty. Downloading a file from an USB disk/MSB share/P2P program and looking at the nautilus dir makes CPU go 100% as long as nautilus is running/
[01:40] <thandavarayan> |Matt|: I can say, 6-8 GB is more then enough
[01:40] <timhaughton> How do I get the FireFox Tangerine theme?
[01:40] <|Matt|> for root?
[01:40] <mariusz_k> I need new repositories for upgrade can someone copy them for me on PM
[01:40] <thandavarayan> |Matt|: I meant for root,
[01:40] <|Matt|> k
[01:41] <aris> hello people
[01:41] <thandavarayan> |Matt|: for home, you can put the whole world ;)
[01:41] <aris>  I am wondering how i could make an impress presentation of more than 500 pictures without becoming mad
[01:41] <|Matt|> so on root, is that where it puts ubuntu and for home it's my programs and other data yeah?
[01:41] <Sublimal-> crimsun: Any idea what to do ?
[01:41] <bobbobowitz> is there anyone who can tell me where I have to copy the ipw2200 firmware to?  the forum I've found says something like /lib/usr/hotplug/firmware, which I can figure is an outdated location, because it says that location doesn't exist
[01:42] <JebJoya> anyone got any ideas for pcmcia wireless cards, RaLink, when it has no networks to connect to (even though there is) and when i type it in manually, iw and ifconfig show stuff(ish)?
[01:42] <thandavarayan> aris: This is the question to OO community or..
[01:42] <bobbobowitz> Matt: yeah, make a seperate partition for your home, I did that, and I was able to do a complete edgy re-install, while keeping my settings and everyting
[01:42] <bobbobowitz> except my ipw2200 drivers/firmware
[01:42] <thandavarayan> |Matt|: Thats right, all your installation goes to root,
[01:42] <ripper> how do i get edgy to show my ntfs drives?
[01:42] <aris> thandavarayan, unfortunaly nobody answers on #users.openoffice.org. maybe somebody here could answer
[01:43] <|Matt|> thanks :)
[01:43] <n_3o> can anyone help with xwindows issue?
[01:43] <nothing> are there any known issues with a slow booting 2.6.17 on edgy???
[01:43] <nothing> *g
[01:43] <thandavarayan> aris: What you would like to do...could you give more details about your problem or
[01:43] <timhaughton> nothing: I have a slow booting edgy too. It seems to hang when the progress bar is about half way across.
[01:43] <siccness> ripper: man mount
[01:43] <nothing> for me it's at the start of the process
[01:44] <thandavarayan> nothing: slow booting means...on what and with which modules..
[01:44] <|Matt|> sorry for all the questions, but what is the minimum requirments for root?
[01:44] <ihatetripe> Hi Everyone. I have had a right mare trying to find a package that can measure the performance of a linux system. I'm about to go tweak crazy on my ubuntu install and want to know before and after stats. Stats such as graphics, disk IO, boot time, kernel speed etc etc etc. Thanks in advance
[01:44] <simtower> guys don't upgrade to 6.10 if you use vmware, it's broken
[01:44] <apjone> hey can anyone correct me with this statement please -   date --date= 1 hour ago
[01:44] <aris> thandavarayan, I have like 500 photos that I would like to make an impress presentation from, with the same layout from them. then I'd like to edit like 10 of them to insert titles
[01:44] <nothing> tried the rescue config with grub (or whatever it's named) and the kernel hang at probing HDC HDD and IDE1
[01:44] <nothing> as i don't have those i disabled them via hdc=none hdd=none and ide1=none
[01:44] <n_3o> booted linux but screen is blank
[01:44] <n_3o> booted ubuntu
[01:44] <n_3o> can i fix this?
[01:44] <n_3o> sudo xwindows?
[01:44] <valehru> Hey, anyone know what the default install path for UT2004 is in ubuntu?  I can't seem to find it.
[01:44] <thandavarayan> |Matt|: I can say 1-5 - 2 GB but it is too less...atleast for me..
[01:45] <nothing> but the problem remains
[01:45] <|Matt|> i'll give it about 4gb then, i'm a bit short on space untill I get a new hdd
[01:45] <\\Roscoe\> Anyone having probs installing 6.10 under VMware Workstation? It dies after the install process during the reboot.
[01:45] <n_3o> what do  i type to config x winows
[01:45] <n_3o> ?
[01:45] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[01:45] <thandavarayan> aris: now tell your problem...
[01:46] <thandavarayan> |Matt|: 4g is okay...mostly it depends upon user and their requirements...
[01:46] <aris> thandavarayan, clicking 500times on insert picture, place it, dimensionate it is not really the unix way to do that kind of repetitive stuff. just wondering if there is a way to do that dirty job automatically
[01:46] <nothing> *G
[01:46] <|Matt|> k, so I can instally programs on home?
[01:46] <apjone> I normally fresh install, normally have to much shit i have installed and forgot about, so i start fresh
[01:46] <|Matt|> *install
[01:46] <JebJoya> I've got a "RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI," which is now being recognised thanks to edgy, BUT it can't seem to connect to a wireless network - any ideas?  also, ifconfig and iwconfig show some stuff on wmaster0 and wlan0 when i connect "manually" to the SSID
[01:46] <Gecko> Hey there. I just upgraded a new dapper install to edgy, and I can't start X. I am sure this is a known problem, but I can't really surf the forums using links/lynx, can anyone tell me how to fix it? I get AUDIT errors with X client rejected from server
[01:46] <thandavarayan> |Matt|: If you are beginner, that is enough, so you can give some time to play around... :-)
[01:47] <|Matt|> but I can install programs on home?
[01:47] <aris> JebJoya, does "dmesg" warns about missing firmwares ?
[01:47] <thandavarayan> aris: check any macros available for that job...
[01:47] <apjone> hey can anyone correct me with this statement please -   date --date= 1 hour ago
[01:47] <nothing> thandavarayan: shall i paste a dmesg? or no idea?
[01:48] <thandavarayan> |Matt|: for sure you can install...but atleast for me, it wont make much sense...
[01:48] <JebJoya> aris:  there's a lot of stuff there, any suggestion what to grep for?  firmware?
[01:48] <flail> n_3o - I've got exactly the same problem. Boot into recovery mode and try this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28639/
[01:48] <aris> thandavarayan, i will have a look
[01:48] <thandavarayan> nothing: dmesg on what... ? :-)
[01:48] <|Matt|> ok, g2g thanks for all your help
[01:48] <aris> JebJoya, grep -i firmware for instance
[01:48] <simtower> is there a way to downgrade to 6.06 from 6.10
[01:48] <nothing> my slow booting kernel hanging on hdc hdd and ide1 :)
[01:48] <aris> simtower, install from scratch ...
[01:48] <nothing> apparently
[01:49] <thandavarayan> simtower: downgrade is very dirty business, you can do by changing repositories...in /etc/apt/source.list
[01:49] <JebJoya> dmesg | grep -i firmware gave nothing
[01:49] <simtower> dirty business?
[01:49] <simtower> is it likely to make vmware work again?
[01:49] <nothing> so what's that supposed to fin?
[01:49] <nothing> sorry have to boot the machine first, i only have 1 monitor
[01:49] <n_3o> Can anyone help me with GUI.. its not showing on screen
[01:49] <n_3o> im in text mode
[01:50] <thandavarayan> nothing: buddy sounds like problem with specific hardware...I hope you can post the message on linux kernel mailing list.
[01:50] <dshot> Question:  Anyone else have the myriad of Python packages + xserver-xorg-core held back?
[01:50] <dshot> ( Edgy )
[01:50] <JebJoya> the last few lines, however, are wlan0: no IPv6 routers present (aris)
[01:50] <aris> JebJoya, look at the last lines of dmesg if there is some error related to wlan/eth1
[01:50] <n_3o> what do i type to config xserver/?
[01:51] <nothing> hmm i don't think it's about compatibility, had gentoo running on that box with 2.6.12 or so and all worked finde
[01:51] <JebJoya> aris, the last few lines, however, are wlan0: no IPv6 routers present
[01:51] <aris> JebJoya, and before ?
[01:51] <pluto> Hello.  I'm trying to set up my printer over a network using SMB.  Who can help?
[01:51] <n_3o> Hello?
[01:51] <n_3o> hmm
[01:51] <thandavarayan> nothing: any ideas about the hdd in your box...
[01:51] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know of a huge forum that discusses all IT related topics? like C/C++ programing, web development, 3d graphics, motion graphics, server scripting, compositing etc..??
[01:51] <n_3o> I have nevver used samba
[01:51] <JebJoya> wmaster0: Selected rate control algorithm 'simple', aris
[01:51] <n_3o> configured it i mean
[01:51] <nothing> n_3o: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;)
[01:52] <thandavarayan> nothing: but, you can boot without any locks or...
[01:52] <n_3o> JebJoya
[01:52] <n_3o> do you know oh
[01:52] <n_3o> ...
[01:52] <n_3o> nevermind
[01:52] <n_3o> thanks nothing
[01:52] <JebJoya> n_3o, eh?
[01:52] <thandavarayan> n_3o: no flooding
[01:52] <aris> JebJoya, that looks like it works. did it work with a previous release of ubuntu ? does sudo iwlist scan reports your accesspoint ?
[01:52] <nothing> yes, after about 5 minutes the system is booting fine
[01:52] <JebJoya> No scan results
[01:52] <JebJoya> :(
[01:53] <aris> JebJoya, when doing iwconfig wlan0, do you see the mac adress of your AP or it says something like "Invalid"
[01:53] <JebJoya> it didn't work with Dapper, but that's cos it's a RaLink card (apparently)
[01:53] <pluto> The problem I'm running into is I"m asked for 3 passwords, but I only set up one password.
[01:53] <thandavarayan> nothing: I think it is better send it to linux kernel mailing list...
[01:53] <JebJoya> Access Point - Not-Associated
[01:53] <david_> ola
[01:54] <nothing> but i assume it's an ubuntu related problem, do they care?
[01:54] <thandavarayan> nothing: for sure they must.
[01:54] <JebJoya> there should be a wireless network across the whole department
[01:54] <david_> ola ana
[01:54] <nothing> hand-compiled gentoo kernels work finde
[01:54] <nothing> fine
[01:54] <hexxa> How i start fglrx? in edgy
[01:54] <david_> ola ana
[01:54] <ana> ola
[01:54] <JebJoya> aris, lemme just check somewhere else in the dept, 2 secs
[01:54] <thandavarayan> nothing: what is the version of your current kernel.
[01:55] <aris> JebJoya, do you have a wep key ? what command have you typed to associate ?
[01:55] <nothing> 2.6.17-generic
[01:55] <chrismhampson> I am now having issues with my keyboard in compiz. Everything works now apart from that my GB keyboard doesn't do quotation marks. Any advice? I've tried changing layout etc in xorg.conf, gdm-conf etc but to not avail
[01:55] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know of a huge forum that discusses all IT related topics? like C/C++ programing, web development, 3d graphics, motion graphics, server scripting, compositing etc..??
[01:55] <simtower> me too
[01:55] <simtower> i have to reinstall from scratch
[01:55] <aris> edgy was not enough tested i think
[01:56] <universe> hello
[01:56] <universe> I have an upgrade problem
[01:56] <JebJoya> aris, no WEP key needed (got a stupid log in system online, don't worry about that), just checked it somewhere I know there's network coverage and still same results
[01:56] <thandavarayan> nothing: okay...
[01:56] <simtower> they need to pull the update
[01:56] <nothing> maybe i should note it's older hardware, older as in "i had to create /boot on a 30mb ext3 for grub to work"
[01:56] <universe> Im getting this error
[01:56] <universe> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:56] <universe> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[01:56] <simtower> so people stop getting screwed over
[01:57] <krazykit> universe: you need root privs.  sudo blahblah, or if it's synaptic, gksudo synaptic
[01:57] <aris> JebJoya, how did you set up your network access ?
[01:57] <pip> !steam
[01:57] <ubotu> Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/
[01:57] <JebJoya> badly, using Networking
[01:57] <chamo> hello
[01:57] <pip> !ping
[01:57] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[01:57] <thandavarayan> nothing: the reason for /boot is to separte the kernel stuff to others...
[01:57] <chamo> I can't get the ATI driver (fglrx) to work !!! i have tried most of the known methods. any idea ?
[01:58] <JebJoya> aris, set ESSID as hotspot (manually, nothing appears in the drop down menu)
[01:58] <nothing> yes i do know, but my BIOS doesn't work with too big partitions for /boot
[01:58] <aris> JebJoya, did you ifconfig wlan0 up ?
[01:58] <JebJoya> aris, someone yesterday said something about "rutilt" for RaLink cards?
[01:58] <thandavarayan> chamo: could you tell what is the problem or..
[01:58] <chamo> !ATI
[01:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:58] <krazykit> chamo: keep in mind they are awful.  check for errors in dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:58] <nothing> believe me i knew what i was doing when i created an extra partition for /boot ;) but that's not my problem
[01:58] <nothing> it's 1999 hardware
[01:58] <aris> JebJoya, i have no knowledge of ralink cards :/
[01:58] <thandavarayan> nothing: okay.
[01:59] <JebJoya> hmm,
[01:59] <chamo> i have an error in dmesg :  [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 4436 using kernel context 0
[01:59] <JebJoya> well, ifconfig wlan0 gives:
[01:59] <hexxa> det funka inte
[01:59] <universe> krazykit; I did sudo
[01:59] <JebJoya> Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr:00:0E:...:E4
[02:00] <JebJoya> inet6 addr: fe80::...:7e4/64 Scope:Link
[02:00] <thandavarayan> nothing: I slightly suspect that may be a bug in the kernel...considering old hardware...
[02:00] <JebJoya> UP RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[02:00] <nothing> hmmm ok know my HD is going *KLACK KLACK KLACK sweeeeeep KLACK KLACK* maybe i should unplug the monitor from my current pc and take a look at the problem machine, hm? :D
[02:00] <thandavarayan> nothing: generic means, how generic...till what extend is not known exactly...
[02:00] <chamo> damn ATI drivers is every time a mess.. might be the 5th time I install them, it's always causing problems...
[02:00] <apjone> nothing > i think ur HD is on its way out
[02:01] <nothing> i'm new to ubuntu, but i guess the generic is only related to arch
[02:01] <JebJoya> aris, any ideas?
[02:01] <aleitner> does anybody else have the problem that emacs shows little rectangles instead of characters in x?
[02:01] <nothing> yes, but it's still working, it's content is not that important :)
[02:01] <chamo> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[02:01] <chamo> (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
[02:01] <chamo> ;/
[02:02] <nothing> could it be of any use for me to give dapper drake a try?
[02:02] <aris> JebJoya, infortunaly not. but I had problems similar to yours with my broadcom
[02:02] <apjone> so apart from the problems is edgy ok??
[02:02] <JebJoya> how did you fix yours?
[02:02] <apjone> nothing > you could try xubuntu
[02:02] <aris> JebJoya, (driver appearing to work but no dhcp/whatever available)
[02:02] <TLE> Well, that was a little disappointing. I can't boot from the edgy live cd. I did the md5sum and I verified the burning so the cd should be allright. When I try to boot it goes almost all through the boot process, it looks like the last bit of the progress bar then the colors of the bootsplash change a bit and then nothing.. no error massage or anything. I have had problem in the with my ATI card not being supported by the default sti driver, but that gave me a
[02:02] <thandavarayan> nothing: why do you try and build a vanilla kernel... ;-)
[02:02] <nothing> because i chose ubuntu for not messing around with config
[02:02] <\\Roscoe\> FYI - Iron Maiden, Fear of the Dark Live... best song ever.
[02:02] <aris> JebJoya, by pushing bug reports and waiting it was fixed in upstream...
[02:02] <nothing> well are the kernel sources in ubuntu rep?
[02:02] <chamo> anyone can help about my ATI problem ?
[02:03] <JebJoya> aris, I mean, I'm gonna try this rutilt thing, and see what happens tonight :S
[02:03] <apjone> exit
[02:03] <apjone> quit
[02:03] <Daviey> Upgraded yesterday via apt-get to Edgy.  Today i am being asked to do another dist-upgrade (mainly for python stuff) however an apt-get dist-upgrade returns a list of packages that will not be upgraded.  Any ideas?
[02:03] <thandavarayan> nothing: you can safely build a custom kernel and run that...without any mess... :-)
[02:03] <osh_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28642/ <- can someone explain this. Running the script produces these errors. Running the commands one at a time produces no error.
[02:03] <nothing> but ARGH as i said i chose ubuntu for not f*****g around with configs, if i have to compile the kernel on my own to work i'm gonna switch to gentoo for my old HW
[02:03] <easytiger> did the 6.10 upgrade break vmware?
[02:03] <JebJoya> aris, (i have wired + wireless internet at home, the wired bit actually, yknow, works! :) )
[02:03] <thandavarayan> nothing: make-kpkg may help in that regard.
[02:04] <ekp> Hi ........latest 6.10 on boot is out of scan range of monitor
[02:04] <gnomefreak> osh_: sounds like the script needs work
[02:04] <dshot> I wouldn't say I'm disappointed with Edgy yet, but if I go through the motions to fix these python packages and the xorg-core stuff and it doesn't work then I'll be fairly annoyed.
[02:04] <nothing> mmh no, when i start with building my own kernel i'll switch to gentoo, i just used ubuntu becaus it had do be set up fast and working
[02:04] <delcoyote> hi good morning all, is there a wav,mp3 to mmf converter for free?
[02:04] <vzoric> does anyone know EST 5pm is how much GMT =
[02:04] <JebJoya> aris, would it make sense that rutilt could do all the WEP/SSID stuff?
[02:04] <osh_> gnomefreak: Oddly enough it worked in dapper, not so much in edgy. :-/
[02:04] <gnomefreak> dshot: if you upgraded correctly those wwouldnt be issues
[02:04] <ekp> GMT -5
[02:04] <gnomefreak> osh_: dapper and edgy are not the same
[02:04] <thandavarayan> nothing: okay...I just interested to put out whether it is a bug form the kernel comes with ubuntu or its a general bug exist in kernel. ;-)
[02:05] <gnomefreak> oops
[02:05] <JebJoya> EST?  East Coast america is 5hrs out, so 10pm?
[02:05] <JebJoya> i think
[02:05] <aris> JebJoya, i don't even know what are doing rutils...but it's a good thing that the wired works most of the times
[02:05] <gnomefreak> osh_: dapper nad edgy are differnt
[02:05] <dshot> gnomefreak: I might've missed something along the way, but all-in-all it wasn't a real rocket science procedure
[02:05] <nothing> hmmmm ok that's a reason :) (despite compile times :D
[02:05] <nothing> i'll give it a try
[02:05] <osh_> gnomefreak: Noted, but commands like "grep" and "head" couldn't have changed that much?
[02:05] <Y0MAN> niks@Ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install build-essentialsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 27 16:47:10 2006
[02:05] <thandavarayan> nothing: well it will take 1- 1.5 hours... ;-)
[02:05] <Y0MAN> how do i  fix this?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> osh_: very much seeing as dash is now the default system terminal
[02:05] <nothing> i meant a gentoo compile :)
[02:06] <ekp> has anyone seen bug in 6.10 when booting..........black screen on starting X?
[02:06] <thandavarayan> Y0MAN: you dont need to worry...
[02:06] <gnomefreak> osh_: your scripts should be usable in dash not bash
[02:06] <JebJoya> aris: "    RutilT should work with any Linux wireless extension compliant kernel module. It also features special support for rt2400, rt2500 and rt2570 devices.
[02:06] <JebJoya> "  fair enough then...
[02:06] <JebJoya> oops, sorry
[02:06] <nothing> be sure: i compiled a lots of kernels as i'm using gentoo ;)
[02:06] <n_3o___> hmm
[02:06] <osh_> gnomefreak: dash?
[02:06] <n_3o___> back agina
[02:06] <Y0MAN> thandavarayan: i cant do anything
[02:06] <easytiger> how do i install my kernel headers?
[02:06] <n_3o___> *again
[02:06] <Y0MAN> thandavarayan: with 'sudo'
[02:06] <thandavarayan> Y0MAN: Did the clock showed the wrong time after installation or..
[02:06] <Y0MAN> omg
[02:06] <Y0MAN> what to do now xD
[02:06] <TLE> Anyone pleeeeeease. I dying to try out Edgy !
[02:06] <gnomefreak> osh_: yes dash is where the scripts are run and what the system uses to run commands
[02:06] <thandavarayan> Y0MAN: Did you changed the time after that or..
[02:06] <Y0MAN> yes
[02:06] <Y0MAN> i changed after installation
[02:07] <gnomefreak> osh_: you still use bash
[02:07] <gnomefreak> !dash | osh_
[02:07] <ubotu> osh_: /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[02:07] <gnomefreak> brb coffee
[02:07] <JebJoya> can someone check if rutilt is listed in Synaptic for me?
[02:07] <easytiger> !kernel src
[02:07] <thandavarayan> Y0MAN: if your revert the clock back it will work...
[02:07] <Y0MAN> lemme try
[02:07] <nothing> but yesterday i wasn't even sure about gcc being installed with ubuntu ;) ;)
[02:07] <osh_> gnomefreak:  Will have a look at that. Didn't know that about dash...
[02:08] <thandavarayan> Y0MAN: and...
[02:08] <JohnUK89> Hiya all, bit of help with a wifi problem needed
[02:08] <Y0MAN> lol
[02:08] <Y0MAN> yep
[02:08] <Y0MAN> works: )
[02:08] <Y0MAN> thx, thandavarayan
[02:08] <osh_> gnomefreak: Unfortunatly no. Changing it to bash didn't work. And it was a "sh" script before.
[02:08] <osh_> gnomefreak: same errors.
[02:08] <JebJoya> anyone check whether rutilt is in Synaptic?  please?  I have no internet for my laptop atm :S
[02:08] <nothing> ok, who ever cares about this being a kernel bug: i have to unplug my monitor and will report back in a few minutes ;)
[02:08] <n_3o___> ok so how do i restart xorg?
[02:09] <n_3o___> anyone know?
[02:09] <nothing> strg+alt+backspace
[02:09] <JebJoya> and i'm using the uni linux pc's
[02:09] <thandavarayan> nothing: okay.
[02:09] <bimberi> !xconfig
[02:09] <ekp> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[02:09] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:09] <nothing> strg *gggg
[02:09] <nothing> brb
[02:10] <universe> hmm
[02:10] <universe> again :D
[02:10] <universe> I have an upgrade problem
[02:10] <universe> Im getting this error
[02:10] <bimberi> oh restart, 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart'
[02:10] <universe> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:10] <universe> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[02:10] <aris> JebJoya, nope, there is no matching "rutil" into apt-cache search
[02:10] <ubuntu> universe, :S
[02:10] <universe> and I have root privs...
[02:10] <easytiger> how do i force apt to remove something?
[02:10] <ekp> thandavarayan: Is there a bug with xorg in edgy?
[02:10] <thandavarayan> universe: Do you have synaptic open or any update manager open
[02:10] <JebJoya> hmm
[02:10] <gnomefreak> universe: are you sure there is nothing after it
[02:10] <cricht0n|away> apt-get romve something
[02:10] <cricht0n|away> apt-get remve something
[02:10] <JebJoya> ah well, i'll try to get it somehow
[02:10] <chamo> well I'll try to install ATI driver by hand...
[02:10] <JebJoya> g2g, cya
[02:11] <gnomefreak> cricht0n|away: try remove
[02:11] <BooBar>  apt-get purge foobar
[02:11] <NineTeen67Comet> hello all .. "little" grub question .. Has anyone got a good how-to on installing grub to a cd so I don't have to touch the MBR of the host computer? (hda is winblows and hdb is Ubuntu, but I want to only show/boot ubuntu with the cd rom installed .. )
[02:11] <Edulix> hi
[02:11] <Daviey> Upgraded yesterday via apt-get to Edgy.  Today i am being asked to do another dist-upgrade (mainly for python stuff) however an apt-get dist-upgrade returns a list of packages that will not be upgraded.  Any ideas?
[02:11] <thandavarayan> ekp: what is your problem.... :-)
[02:11] <Edulix> why syntax on command doesn't work in edgy version of vim?
[02:11] <Edulix> E319: Sorry, the command is not available in this version
[02:11] <ekp> when boot 6.10 live........get black screen with start of X
[02:11] <ekp> scan out of range
[02:12] <universe> gnomefreak; I did :) 10x
[02:12] <thandavarayan> universe: if so, and if your try to use any package management tools...it will show error as you mentioned
[02:12] <croach> how could i get my spdif to work in totem_
[02:12] <reon> What happened to the K7 kernel images, is it incorporated into generic now ?
[02:12] <aris> Daviey, the upgrading operations implied making two times apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:12] <Daviey> aris, i get "28 not upgraded"
[02:12] <thandavarayan> ekp: Please check that you have proper horz and vert freq in xorg.conf
[02:12] <aris> Daviey, do the upgrade and then restart apt-get
[02:13] <Daviey> aris, restart apt-get?
[02:13] <ekp> Ok with Vi from command prompt?
[02:13] <leone> to install the edgy between a cd , what file must i download Alternate install CD , Server install CD , or Desktop CD ??
[02:13] <thandavarayan> ekp: right, vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:13] <aris> Daviey, make your apt-get dist-upgrade, then redo it
[02:13] <TLE> Is there a way to boot the live cd without the boot-splash so I can see what its doing when it stalls ?
[02:13] <ekp> thnks
[02:14] <leone> anyone know?
[02:14] <Daviey> aris, i have - but i consistently get '28 not upgraded' (mainly python stuff)
[02:14] <ehird> vi is silly, i couldn't even figure out how to make it let me type text
[02:14] <Daviey> TLE, press ESCape
[02:14] <thandavarayan> ehird: try nano
[02:14] <kishore> hi all
[02:14] <ayaa> how do I disable the blank screen mode, which activated after a few minutes? (using console and not X)
[02:14] <unixslut> Hi
[02:14] <ekp> thandavarayan: so is this a bug?
[02:14] <in4mer> Hello
[02:14] <blc`> sup
[02:14] <unixslut> you tell me
[02:14] <blc`> don't know
[02:14] <ehird> thandavarayan: i do ;)
[02:14] <in4mer> confidential
[02:14] <BooBar> leone ??? to install edgy between a cd???
[02:14] <Scognito> hi
[02:14] <Abst> hi
[02:15] <TLE> Daviey: yeah that gets me off the boot menu, but if I hit enter without any options it still start the bootsplash
[02:15] <leone> BooBar, i mean i  to install the edgy with the iso
[02:15] <thandavarayan> ekp: not a bug, but when these values are very abrubt...then xserver cant handle...
[02:15] <Scognito> since i'm upgrading from 6.06 are there know issues
[02:15] <leone> what file must i download
[02:15] <leone>  Alternate install CD , Server install CD , or Desktop CD ??
[02:15] <BooBar> what you want a server of desktop?
[02:15] <Daviey> TLE, canny help then :(
[02:15] <ehird> desktop if you're a normal user
[02:15] <kishore> i had installed gparted.. but mouted my drives a logical.. so its not showing resize operation
[02:15] <ehird> server if you're running a server
[02:15] <ehird> alternate if you're crazy
[02:15] <kishore> now how to resize my partition
[02:15] <n_3o____> back
[02:15] <thandavarayan> leone: Desktop CD, if you want to have desktop I mean Ubuntu desktop.
[02:15] <H0110Wman> J
[02:16] <ekp> thandavarayan: should not hald handle detection?
[02:16] <kishore> ext3<----partition type
[02:16] <leone> i want my edgy for all
[02:16] <leone> i mean my os
[02:16] <JohnUK89> Can anyone help me with a WiFi problem under Edgy?
[02:16] <intelikey> anyone in here know kernel linux pretty well ?
[02:16] <thandavarayan> kishore: Did you check whether disks are unmounted or...
[02:16] <BooBar> leone install both then :)
[02:16] <leone> i have  windows at the moment , but now i want to have ubuntu edgy , what file must i download?
[02:16] <kishore> thoser r mounted
[02:16] <kishore> thandavarayan, mounted..
[02:16] <BooBar> Desktop
[02:17] <leone> desktop?
[02:17] <thandavarayan> ekp: where did you get this error.
[02:17] <MrUbuntu> leone: www.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <BooBar> Desktop
[02:17] <ehird> leone; sigh
[02:17] <leone> ok
[02:17] <leone>  desktop than
[02:17] <Daviey> leone, download the desktop version
[02:17] <leone> thanks
[02:17] <leone> ;)
[02:17] <andyjeffries> Can anyone tell me how to rip an installed package out "by the balls" as it were?  I've got a problem with uim-common and it fails when trying to uninstall it.
[02:17] <easytiger> apt was assraped by the upgrade if you had mzscheme installed
[02:17] <leone> so when i burn the iso in the cd , i be available to install it in my pc no?
[02:17] <bimberi> !download
[02:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[02:17] <thandavarayan> kishore: may need unmount...
[02:17] <ehird> i think we need a ubotu answer for it
[02:17] <ekp> thandavarayan: when login screen is launched
[02:17] <ekp> I can hear login wav
[02:18] <ekp> but screen is black
[02:18] <kishore> thandavarayan, i want to .. resize linux partition from linux
[02:18] <intelikey> did the oom_kill options all disapear in the linux 2.6 tree   or am i looking in the wrong place ?
[02:18] <Daviey> leone, it will boot into a desktop when you reboot with the disk installed.  Then there is an icon on the desktop called install - click that
[02:18] <kishore> thandavarayan, is it possible and how :(
[02:18] <BooBar> ekp what screen do you have
[02:18] <osh_> I don't get it. How can grep/head/sed report ": error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when run from a script, but not so when run from a shell. It doesn't make sense to me.
[02:18] <gnomefreak> osh_: what does the script do? if you named libc6 make sure its edgy;s version
[02:18] <thandavarayan> ekp: do you still have scan errors from xserver or..
[02:19] <osh_> gnomefreak: it starts a java-program
[02:19] <ekp> thandavarayan: Dell (Sony) P991 trinitron
[02:19] <delcoyote> TLE tried F1? or ALT=F1? or shift+F1?
[02:19] <kishore> ubotu, gparted
[02:19] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:19] <osh_> gnomefreak: How do I check that libc6 is the edgy version?
[02:19] <tijn> hi all
[02:19] <thandavarayan> kishore: if you have live CD, do that...
[02:19] <gnomefreak> osh_: is this a script you wrote?
[02:19] <JohnUK89> !wifi > JohnUK89
[02:19] <thandavarayan> kishore: I mean, you can do that...
[02:19] <croach> How can i get spdif to work in totem player
[02:19] <TLE> delcoyote: in the boot menu or when it stalls ?
[02:19] <BooBar> ekp did you try switch screen modes
[02:19] <osh_> gnomefreak: gnomefreak nope. It came with the software.
[02:19] <kishore> thandavarayan, resizing ?
[02:19] <delcoyote> while is running TLE
[02:20] <gnomefreak> !info libc6 edgy
[02:20] <thandavarayan> ekp: buddy tell me clearly, after reboot what happens...
[02:20] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 4032 kB, installed size 9988 kB
[02:20] <gnomefreak> osh_: theres edgys version
[02:20] <delcoyote> not sure TLE but i think some distros allow you to do that
[02:20] <andyjeffries> I'm trying - sudo dpkg --force-all -r uim-common libuim0 - but it still fails with an error.
[02:20] <kishore> cant we resize the logical partitions
[02:20] <magicnorri> hi how do i do an upgrade from the earlier version
[02:20] <ekp> BooBar: f4 from boot options.........tried lower res helped with seeing splash but when login comes up screen goes black
[02:20] <thandavarayan> kishore: I must look, I never tried that before.
[02:20] <Daviey> croach, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=265174
[02:21] <BooBar> ctrl/alt/+
[02:21] <gnomefreak> osh_: can you please paste the script to pastebin
[02:21] <TLE> delcoyote: thanks
[02:21] <jrib> ubotu: tell magicnorri about upgrade
[02:21] <osh_>  dpkg -l | grep libc6
[02:21] <osh_> ii  libc6                                  2.4-1ubuntu12                        GNU C Library: Shared libraries
[02:21] <ekp> thandavarayan: ^
[02:21] <gnomefreak> osh_: on pastebin
[02:21] <osh_> gnomefreak: Sure. One sec.
[02:21] <tijn> just upgraded to edgy, and i have a few probs, my sound doenst work anymore (only as root) added my user to the audio group, but nothing, 2nd, when i go to a site (Firefox 2.0) it crashes, this has something to do with flash i think
[02:21] <kishore> thandavarayan, ok
[02:21] <aris> tijn, have you delogged/relogged yourself after adding you in audio group ?
[02:21] <delcoyote> hi all, anyone knows if there is a mp3.wav to mmf converter for linux?
[02:22] <BooBar> ekp try ctrl/alt/+ or ctrl/alt/-
[02:22] <croach> thx Daviey
[02:22] <tijn> aris: eerh :)
[02:22] <gnomefreak> osh_: not your version of libc6 the scripts version of libc6 is what is needed
[02:22] <tijn> gonna try that haha brb
[02:22] <JohnUK89> How can I install WPA Supplicant if I have no net connection in Ubuntu?
[02:22] <XiXaQ> In XSane, there is a fax option. Does that mean I can use a normal modem as a fax and directly fax the scanned image?
[02:22] <thandavarayan> kishore: I am looking into that...
[02:22] <ekp> BooBar: does that change res on start of X or what?
[02:22] <Daviey> delcoyote, have you tried searching google?
[02:22] <BooBar> ekp try ctrl/alt/+ or ctrl/alt/- real time
[02:22] <osh_> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28647/ <- the bash -x in the beginning is mine. Trying to figure out what's happening and why.
[02:23] <delcoyote> yes Daviey all are shareware or free for win
[02:23] <Pitr> hi; can I switch a kubuntu machine to use xubuntu, without having to install from scratch?
[02:23] <Pitr> (is there a task package which would do this?)
[02:23] <kishore> thandavarayan, ok... brb
[02:23] <thandavarayan> kishore: http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/resizing-ext3-partitions-with-parted
[02:23] <ekp> Boo
[02:23] <tijn> aris: thnx m8 :) works heh
[02:23] <Daviey> delcoyote, try the 2nd hit http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=mp3+wav+converter+ubuntu&btnG=Search&meta=
[02:23] <BooBar> ekp ctrl/alt/+ or ctrl/alt/- changes it in real time
[02:23] <aris> hehe :p
[02:23] <thandavarayan> kishore: gparted is the front end of parted..
[02:23] <St_MPA3b> hm... some1 can use Firefox2 + TabMix plus ext on Edgy?
[02:23] <kishore> ya
[02:23] <osh_> gnomefreak: That last sentence made no sense to me.
[02:23] <tijn> but the browser thing pretty sucks
[02:24] <BooBar> try when you have black screen
[02:24] <Poincare> I'm trying to distupgrade ubuntu to 6.10 but got a name resolving error for packages.freecontrib.org... Anyone knows what's going on? To much load? :-D
[02:24] <ekp> BooBar: so when screen is black try ctlr+alt + or -
[02:24] <delcoyote> thanks Daviey
[02:24] <tijn> sites without flash work like a charm, but with flash, it just plain crashes
[02:25] <aris> tijn, you did an upgrade ?
[02:25] <BooBar> ekp yes it will switch through the other modes
[02:25] <tijn> aris: yes
[02:25] <ripper> what would cause me to get this error, and how do i fix it? bash: /usr/bin/sudo: cannot execute binary file
[02:25] <[GuS] > Bonjour..
[02:25] <aris> tijn, how did you install flash in the first place ?
[02:25] <thandavarayan> kishore: Namasthay ;-)
[02:25] <ekp> Ok thanks
[02:25] <kishore> thandavarayan, hey.. u know telugu
[02:25] <thandavarayan> aris: www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:25] <leone> thanks Daviey
[02:25] <magicnorri> hi how do i do an upgrade from the earlier version please
[02:25] <tijn> aris: flashplugin-nonfree
[02:25] <tijn> apt-get install that is
[02:25] <thandavarayan> kishore: yeah, where in Germany are you now.
[02:25] <leone> Daviey,  first i must format my windows no?
[02:25] <jrib> ripper: what command did you execute to give you that error?
[02:25] <leone> than insert the cd
[02:25] <aris> thandavarayan, that's to help him to resolve his crash, but thanks :)
[02:25] <leone> and then installed
[02:25] <leone> no?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> osh_: what version of java is the system using. and i thought you said the script uses !#/bin/sh its showing /bin/bash
[02:26] <kishore> thandavarayan, i am from andhrapradesh ,vijayawada
[02:26] <bimberi> !upgrade | magicnorri
[02:26] <ubotu> magicnorri: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[02:26] <ripper> jrib sudo
[02:26] <thandavarayan> kishore: Do you live in India or..
[02:26] <blue999> choo all
[02:26] <ripper> any time i try to run it, it gives that error
[02:26] <aris> tijn, thus it should be reported. Do you get a bug report window when it crashes ?
[02:26] <kishore> thandavarayan, hey .i live in india
[02:26] <Daviey> gnomefreak, i think it uses the GNU java VM - scrub that and put Sun's on
[02:26] <blue999> chi usa beryl qui dentro?
[02:26] <tijn> nope
[02:26] <tijn> nothing
[02:26] <blue999> ops...
[02:26] <aris> hmm :(
[02:26] <osh_> gnomefreak: yeah, the /bin/bash is my change. Didn't help. and java should be the one in the repos. 1.5-something.
[02:26] <kishore> thandavarayan, u misunderstood i think
[02:26] <blue999> Who use beryl with edgy?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> Daviey: i saw that too hence the reason i asked him what java version
[02:27] <Subhuman> blue999, i do.
[02:27] <MacSlow> blue999, from time to time
[02:27] <aris> tijn, i dont know how to make the automate reporter work that way
[02:27] <blue999> is there any problema with 0.1.1 of beryl yet?
[02:27] <Subhuman> ask in #ubuntu-xgl though
[02:27] <gnomefreak> osh_: what does java -v say
[02:27] <thandavarayan> kishore: okay. Good to know. NO, I actually have a friend in Germany he is also called Kishore. ;-)
[02:27] <kishore> thandavarayan, ok ok..
[02:27] <osh_> java -version
[02:27] <osh_> java version "1.5.0_08"
[02:27] <gnomefreak> osh_: sorry java --v
[02:27] <gnomefreak> ack
[02:27] <tijn> the flashplugin is the right one aight?
[02:28] <thandavarayan> kishore: His writings are also very similar .... :-) Anyhow, happy computing and sad cricket.
[02:28] <kishore> thandavarayan, :))
[02:28] <KenSentMe> Anyone using teamspeak on Ubuntu here?
[02:28] <jrib> ripper: sudo echo hi   does the same thing I guess?  What are the permissions on /usr/bin/sudo?
[02:28] <tijn> aris: The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.     this error i get when i run firefox in a terminal
[02:29] <ripper> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 91508 2006-10-09 07:37 /usr/bin/sudo
[02:29] <aris> tijn, ah, that's a bug but not exactly a crash
[02:29] <gnomefreak> osh_: i dont think its the script i think its the packages its grabbing.
[02:29] <reiki> I have 2 physical hard drives. sda1 (SATA, my current main drive) and hda1 (IDE with a complete Dapper install on it). It looks like GRUB menu.list on both of these drives has the default boot going to sda1. Can I cahnge the menu.list on hda1 to make it boot hda1 and then tell my system to boot that drive and try an edgy upgrade on that?
[02:29] <kishore> thandavarayan, so u say.. to resize a logical partition we need to unmount the drive..
[02:29] <gnomefreak> osh_: how far does it get before it gives you libc6 errors?
[02:29] <aris> tijn, you should fill a bugreport with the circonstance of the crash and that error message
[02:29] <thandavarayan> kishore: Did you read that page, I sent to you.
[02:29] <kishore> thandavarayan, doing tat
[02:29] <thandavarayan> kishore: okay.
[02:29] <kishore> thandavarayan, be right back..
[02:30] <tijn> aris: i will do that :) thnx for the help
[02:30] <gnomefreak> osh_: and do you have java jdk or sdk installed?
[02:30] <nothing> thandavarayan: do you know if ide1=none is a valid kernel line?
[02:30] <tijn> normally it is me which is buggy ;)
[02:30] <thandavarayan> nothing: Nope.
[02:30] <aris> tijn, else, do like me... i live perfectly without flash
[02:30] <nothing> becaus i think i got rid of the buggy hdc and hdd probing by kernel lines
[02:30] <thandavarayan> nothing: NO idea...
[02:30] <kevin1> is there a newer kernel for edgy than 2.6.17-10-generic?
[02:30] <aris> tijn, since it won't work on amd64
[02:30] <jrib> ripper: strange, don't see what would cause that
[02:30] <tijn> aris: that would an option
[02:30] <gnomefreak> kevin1: thats the latest
[02:30] <osh_> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28650/ <- first "head" I think.
[02:31] <Daviey> kevin1, why use the generic kernal and not one specific for your family processor?
[02:31] <nothing> *download kernel sources*
[02:31] <thandavarayan> kishore: http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_chapter/parted_2.html
[02:31] <Sint4x> Hello
[02:31] <Daviey> SinnerG, Hello back
[02:31] <tim__> I upgraded to edgy yesterday. it crashed x, but i solved that, but now i can only log into failsafe gnome, i looked at launchpad and found some workarounds but it would be nice to fix it for real. maybe some of you guys got a solution to the problem
[02:31] <kevin1> gnomefreak,  I cannot get vmware working with ath0 wireless card.. i have the headers installed it just fails to setup bridge network
[02:31] <tijn> hehehe aris: it works! :)
[02:31] <tijn> i apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[02:31] <gnomefreak> osh_: yeah i think its the apps that its trying to get blocking you
[02:31] <kevin1> Daviey,  can you get that via apt-get?
[02:31] <galadriel_> hey, i'm more or less new in using linux and i've got a question. how can i stop a running process? is it q or x or anything lke this?
[02:32] <nothing> k dmesg says bad option :)
[02:32] <tijn> now, i have flash and it still works!
[02:32] <tijn> :D
[02:32] <Daviey> kevin1, yes
[02:32] <aris> tijn, aha
[02:32] <thandavarayan> tim__: what is the problem  now...
[02:32] <gnomefreak> kevin1: did you install resticted modules package?
[02:32] <osh_> gnomefreak: I have something called java-common. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28651/ <- list there.
[02:32] <aris> cU
[02:32] <thandavarayan> nothing: :)
[02:32] <gnomefreak> osh_: i would throw script away and try grabbing them by hand see if you get same error
[02:32] <tim_> ? :)
[02:32] <osh_> gnomefreak: the apps that it's trying to get?
[02:33] <kevin1> gnomefreak, I am using ath0 card now.. just vmware-config.pl will not create the service necessary to run
[02:33] <gnomefreak> osh_: that script is grabbing java apps from freedesktop.org or whatever the site is
[02:33] <kevin1> it's trying to compile it and its fails
[02:33] <jrib> ripper: if you google for "cannot execute binary file" there are some suggestions you can try
[02:33] <Sint4x> what apt-get command would i use to upgrade from 5.x to 6.x in a terminal? my "X" wont work for some reason, i want to dist upgrade
[02:33] <gnomefreak> reiki: its not gonna change a bit in the next week
[02:34] <reiki> gnomefreak, that's encouraging :)
[02:34] <ehird> 24bit colours = 16.7mil colours right?
[02:34] <kevin1> gnomefreak,  if i configure to vmware-config.pl to use eth0 it builds fine.... but using ath0 it doesn't
[02:34] <gnomefreak> reiki: the repos are closed
[02:34] <thandavarayan> Sint4x: what is 5.x and 6.x
[02:34] <gnomefreak> reiki: we are thinking around 2 weeks
[02:34] <Sint4x> 5.10 to edgy eft
[02:34] <gnomefreak> Sint4x: you upgrade to 6.06 first
[02:34] <nothing> k i think i just have to properly disable ide1 probing, in case you care, i'll get this done, thanks anyway :)
[02:34] <gnomefreak> Sint4x: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:34] <Sint4x> okay... well since i installed, X wont work, it just goes to a black screen
[02:34] <kevin1> gnomefreak,  in order to get internet via virtual machine... i have to do ath0
[02:34] <gnomefreak> Sint4x: do that first
[02:35] <osh_> gnomefreak: But the errors aren't there. The first error is from this line "SUN_VERSION=`java -version 2>&1 | head -n 1 | sed "s/java version \"\(.*\)\"/\1/"`" which works perfectly when run from the cli.
[02:35] <reiki> gnomefreak: it's killing me that I have 2 physical drives here and I'm too stupid about GRUB to know how to get it to simply boot the old drive (with a complete Dapper on it) so I could experiment with upgrading that dsrive before upgrading my main drive
[02:35] <thandavarayan> Sint4x: Command is apt-get dist-upgrade, but you must point the edgy repos in /etc/apt/source.list files
[02:35] <St_MPA3b> how can i make gdesklets' CPUtemp, HDtemp etc to work?
[02:35] <Sint4x> ok but ubuntu-desktop will go to 6.06 right/
[02:36] <tim__> thandavarayan, gnome crashes when i start anything else than the failsafe gnome session
[02:36] <gnomefreak> Sint4x: not if you keep your repos breezy
[02:36] <gnomefreak> Sint4x: without that package installed you will have a very hard time upgrading
[02:36] <Sint4x> what do i put into my repo for 6.06
[02:36] <thandavarayan> Sint4x: I guess, it will be very hard...
[02:36] <Sint4x> i dont have any ttys :-( ahhhh.
[02:36] <valehru> where is the aiglx channel for ubuntu + beryl?
[02:36] <Sint4x> would be nice if i could fix X some how
[02:37] <gnomefreak> valehru: #ubuntu-xgl
[02:37] <osh_> gnomefreak: perhaps adding path to the head/tail/sed/grep commands will help? But they seem to run, just linked to the wrong glibc (or something).
[02:37] <thandavarayan> Sint4x: change horay to dapper. in /etc/apt/source.list
[02:37] <kevin1> Anyone having any problems with vmware in Edgy?  I cannot get my networking service to load
[02:37] <thandavarayan> tim__: any crash report available. or..
[02:37] <sami> anyone know why plf edgy -repos are dead?
[02:37] <tim__> thandavarayan, the workaround solutions, same crash report
[02:37] <gnomefreak> osh_: theres your issue than if you can say they are pointing to wrong glibc
[02:37] <gnomefreak> sami: plf is dead
[02:38] <gnomefreak> sami: please remove it and sudo apt-get update
[02:38] <thandavarayan> tim__: It will be nice, to see the crash report and workaround . :-)
[02:38] <Sint4x> if i go into emergency mode or recovery mode w/e it is on grub menu option 2, is that considered single-use mode?
[02:38] <reiki> galadriel_, find process ID and use kill
[02:38] <gnomefreak> sami: plf is dealing with alot of issues with lack of maintainers
[02:38] <sami> where can i get those packages..?
[02:38] <Abst> Anyone know why now I just installed the nVidia drivers my GDM font is really small, so is the font on the splash image thing after loggingibn
[02:38] <St_MPA3b> how can i make gdesklets' CPUtemp, HDtemp etc to work?
[02:38] <galadriel_> reiki: how do i find the process ID?
[02:39] <gnomefreak> St_MPA3b: did you install gdesklets and gdesklets-data
[02:39] <Sint4x> brb gunna look @ a file
[02:39] <ayaa> how do I disable the blank screen mode, which activated after a few minutes? (using console and not X)
[02:39] <Kameli> Hello, do anybody know how to install k7 kernel on edgy? :( i can't find :(
[02:39] <reiki> galadriel_, you know what process you are trying to kill? if so use ps aux | grep processname
[02:39] <gnomefreak> Kameli: -generic
[02:39] <St_MPA3b> gnomefreak: y, i can move deskets to display, but meters dont work
[02:39] <tim__> thandavarayan, Sorry forget the link, here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/59217
[02:39] <Kameli> gnomefreak: no, i want k7 kernel, because i use amd athlon :)
[02:39] <gnomefreak> St_MPA3b: than i would say file a bug
[02:40] <gnomefreak> Kameli: you r not going to find it
[02:40] <St_MPA3b> gnomefreak: hm.... they show CPU etc, but not temperatures
[02:40] <osh_> gnomefreak: ldd head = linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000), libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7e92000) and /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7fd8000). What does your ldd say?
[02:40] <Kameli> gnomefreak: ?
[02:40] <galadriel_> reiki, ok...why can't i use something like q or x to end a programm? (sorry, i'm a newbie)
[02:40] <delcoyote> Daviey: i found Media Convert its all online, a bit slow but seems to work, thats the only freebie i found to convert mp3 or wav(and others) to mmf(and others) thanks a lot for the help
[02:40] <tabman> what is the significance of ./ ? I often write it because any executable but don't know what it means
[02:40] <Kameli> gnomefreak: is there any k7-kernel-modules or something? :P
[02:41] <St_MPA3b> poor gnomefreak :D
[02:41] <gnomefreak> Kameli: -generic should be wat you are looking for
[02:41] <thandavarayan> tim__: well...
[02:41] <RaZZle`> 14:41 -!- sintax is now known as sint4x
[02:41] <reiki> galadriel_, you can use control+C if you're in a terminal and a program is *stuck* or if you have a misbehaving window you can use force quit app.
[02:41] <RaZZle`> eh
[02:41] <RaZZle`> darn paste
[02:41] <gnomefreak> St_MPA3b: the temp not showing could be broken desklet or hardware not supported by that desklet
[02:41] <RaZZle`> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28652/  <- anyone an idea about this message ?
[02:42] <sint4x> hmmm... i'm not sure what to put into my /etc/apt/sources.list lol.. i know im running breezy and i think if i upgrade my dist.. X might work, i've no idea why it wont, it does fine on the live breezy
[02:42] <St_MPA3b> gnomefreak: mb i must dl any lib or type something in console? :(
[02:42] <gnomefreak> sint4x: install ubuntu-desktop first
[02:42] <sint4x> ok
[02:42] <tabman> can I see Edgy screen shots some where ?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> !upgrade | sint4x
[02:42] <ubotu> sint4x: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[02:42] <sint4x> damn is there anyway to go into multi-user mode
[02:42] <sint4x> so id ont gotta close irssi every time i need a console
[02:42] <St_MPA3b> !desklets
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desklets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <St_MPA3b> !gdesklets
[02:42] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[02:42] <jrib> tabman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes has some
[02:42] <galadriel_> reiki, ok, thx. i'll try that....
[02:42] <gnomefreak> tabman: im sure you can. try google im a bit busy atm or wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:43] <galadriel_> bye
[02:43] <gnomefreak> ty jrib
[02:43] <osh_> RaZZle`: Are your sources.list up to date?
[02:43] <tabman> another thing, whats the point of writing ./ ?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> tabman: to start a script
[02:43] <osh_> tabman: to make sure you use the command in the current directory
[02:43] <RaZZle`> osh_: think so, how can i check if the list is up to date ?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> tabman: you could use sh script.sh
[02:44] <AlexC> i just installed java runtime enviro. and every time i start firefox it seems to be working and then it suddenly quits without warning
[02:44] <fuflo> am i searching in the wrong place or does edgy eft have no skype?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> RaZZle`: pastebin you /etc/apt/sources.list  please
[02:44] <osh_> RaZZle`: have you includes universe/multiverse and such. They're probably needed.
[02:44] <sint4x> ubuntu-desktop is already up-to-date
[02:44] <tabman> osh_: what would this mean export WorkDir=./WorkDir ?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> sint4x: good now change the word breezy in your /etc/apt/sources.list to dapper
[02:45] <gnomefreak> sint4x: than sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:45] <NeoThermic> ok, so the update to Edgy removed ndiswrapepr, claming it was redundant, but now my wifi card doesn't work. I take it there's a new way then to get a broadcom based wireless card working in Edgy then?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> sint4x: make sure there are no unofficial repos in your list
[02:45] <RaZZle`> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28653/
[02:45] <osh_> tabman: that the environment variable WorkDir is set to the directory WorkDir in your current directory.
[02:46] <AlexC> i installed java and it quits unexpectantly in firefox
[02:46] <gnomefreak> RaZZle`: comment out hte beryl repo
[02:46] <thandavarayan> RaZZle`: ARe you conserned about mplayer or...
[02:46] <St_MPA3b> i need lmsensors, but there is no in repos :(
[02:46] <sint4x> hmmm
[02:46] <sint4x> on the first line where it says breezy?
[02:46] <gnomefreak> RaZZle`: than sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:46] <sint4x> like cdrom: something
[02:46] <gnomefreak> sint4x: take cdrom repos out
[02:47] <RaZZle`> gnomefreak: ok, lemme try
[02:47] <gnomefreak> remove them from list
[02:47] <sint4x> ok
[02:47] <userbn> ckhksfks
[02:47] <thandavarayan> sint4x: you can commet that bravely
[02:47] <unixslut> hey
[02:47] <sint4x> i wish i didnt have to close irssi every time i needed a console :-( how do i go into multi-user mode
[02:47] <tabman> osh_: what does that means ? :) its only valid for the current directory ?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> sint4x: use screen :)
[02:47] <thandavarayan> sint4x: make sure you have urls, that to point to main.
[02:47] <AlexC> firefox loads correctly but then it quits at various points
[02:48] <AlexC> just after i installed java
[02:48] <tijn> AlexC: i have (had) the same problem with flash
[02:48] <sint4x> gnomefreak: im not a complete linux newb but, i dont use it on a daily basis unfortunately, but ive not used it 'a lot' in a few years :-P
[02:48] <AlexC> tijn: how did you fix it?
[02:48] <sint4x> cant recall exactly what screen does
[02:48] <tijn> i de-installed flash
[02:49] <gnomefreak> sint4x: are you on tty?
[02:49] <sint4x> i went into recovery/emergency mode
[02:49] <RaZZle`> gnomefreak: there are no upgrades available
[02:49] <sint4x> straight to a root shell, then typed login
[02:49] <gnomefreak> sint4x: i would upgrade in normal mode
[02:49] <sint4x> since my "X" is broken, iddnt know how to get to a console, i only have one console
[02:49] <gnomefreak> RaZZle`: are you on edgy?
[02:49] <AlexC> tijn: i put the sybolic link into the folder and it quits now
[02:49] <RaZZle`> gnomefreak: yeah
[02:50] <gnomefreak> RaZZle`: what are you trying to upgrade to?
[02:50] <tijn> AlexC: wierd
[02:50] <AlexC> i'll take it out
[02:50] <sint4x> i boot up.. i see the progress screen where it loads modules, etc etc, and it goes to start X and the screen turns black and has a solid underscore (_) not even flashing
[02:50] <AlexC> tijn: brb
[02:50] <tijn> i think more ppl have problems with thus
[02:50] <RaZZle`> gnomefreak: nothing, i just wanna install mplayer :] 
[02:50] <gnomefreak> sint4x: ctrl+alt+f1 through f6
[02:50] <sint4x> is there a way to not go into X before X tries to load, but in normal-mode, into a console
[02:50] <userbn> ghghg
[02:50] <St_MPA3b> solverd! I just needed lm-sensors
[02:50] <St_MPA3b> solved*
[02:50] <gnomefreak> RaZZle`: opne you list again
[02:51] <thandavarayan> RaZZle`: You need additional repos...for mplayer :-) or...
[02:51] <sint4x> gnomefreak: let me try that during the boot process maybe itll work, i know it doesnt right now
[02:51] <Abst> Is there a way to see the difference between two files side to side (like editing wikipaedia)?
[02:51] <gnomefreak> RaZZle`: in the lines that end in universe put a space and than multiverse
[02:51] <gnomefreak> RaZZle`: you can uncomment beryl repo too
[02:51] <sint4x> ok brb gunna try that
[02:52] <osh_> tabman: it's a bit odd that command yes. It does make some kind of sense in a script.
[02:52] <Abst> !diff
[02:52] <ubotu> diff: File comparison utilities. In component main, is required. Version 2.8.1-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 748 kB
[02:53] <osh_> !libc6
[02:53] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 4032 kB, installed size 9988 kB
[02:53] <leftjustified> I've updated to edgy and it's hosed an already volitile X11 configuration; how can I tell X11 to write it's own config file? (shell commands only..) thanks :)
[02:53] <RaZZle`> gnomefreak: ah! works! ty !
[02:54] <Abst> !man
[02:54] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:54] <ekp> BooBar: trying ctrl/alt/ + or - did not work........still get scan out of range of monitor
[02:54] <hoelk> hmm
[02:54] <hoelk> any good vector based drawing programm for linux?
[02:54] <thandavarayan> hoelk: Inkscape
[02:54] <leftjustified> hoelk:inkscape
[02:55] <hoelk> thx
[02:55] <phenex> hey guys. i'm trying to upgrade to edgy and this is what i get on apt-get update: http://rafb.net/paste/results/J9Y8Mu70.html
[02:55] <ekp> BooBar: looked at /etc/X11/xorg.conf with vi and the monitor and graphics card is correctly detetected
[02:55] <cyzie> hello, is it possible to move my /home to another hdd? now my / is under 1 hdd, i would like to move /home into another hdd
[02:55] <sinta[x[> gnomefreak alright i got another computer to use IRC on lol
[02:55] <osh_> someone who can do a "ldd /usr/bin/head" and paste the result for me?
[02:55] <ekp> BooBar: no verit. or horiz. rate entered in config though
[02:55] <leftjustified> does anyone know how to initiate x11's configuration script from the command line?
[02:55] <sinta[x[> so i booted up... and i went to control at F8 to see all the stuff coming up like "starting network interfaces      [ok] "
[02:55] <Toaster54> Hi
[02:55] <thandavarayan> phenex: try it one more time... :-)
[02:56] <Toaster54> Could someone tell me how to upgrade Dapper drake to edgy eft?
[02:56] <bimberi> !upgrade
[02:56] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[02:56] <phenex> thandavarayan, i tried for like 20 times till now
[02:56] <ross> Hi everyone, I live in China and I've got a problem trying to install the multimedia codecs for ubuntu, automatix and easyubuntu are not accessible over here, neither is the canonical repository so I'm stuck, I think this is due to the great firewall of china!  Any ideas where else I can get hold of the files?  The chinese repositories for ubuntu are incredibly fast sometimes I hit 10Mbs when downloading from them, but any international site is either unavailabl
[02:56] <ross> e or incredibly sloooooow
[02:56] <cpk2> leftjustified: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg will redo your xorg.conf
[02:56] <osh_> hani: thanks
[02:56] <Roberto> Re :)
[02:56] <Tommck> what are the odds that there is another DirecWay customer in here?
[02:57] <leftjustified> cpk2: thankyou :)
[02:57] <thandavarayan> phenex: cant say it may be a problem from the repo...
[02:57] <bwlang_> i'm having some trouble getting my new system to talk to a "hidden" WEP access point.  It connects, leases an address but then disconnects and reconnects every few seconds.  I googled for " wpa_supplicant hysteresis" and "ip3945 hysteresis" to no avail.. What's a better search term?
[02:57] <eXistenZ> ross, Kill your ruler :)
[02:57] <ekp> cpk2: I did try command but got syntax error or something........pretty sure I entered command correctly
[02:57] <ross> hahaha
[02:57] <Tommck> DirecWay, anyone?
[02:58] <Abst> Does anyone know why when I use a xorg.conf generated by nvidia-xconfig some fonts are really small?
[02:58] <cpk2> ekp: huh?
[02:58] <vorbote> ross: try http://debian-multimedia.org/
[02:58] <vorbote> Yuo may need to download the files and recompile (backport).
[02:58] <ross> ok, trying now thanks
[02:58] <ekp> cpk2: sorry thought ^ was to me
[02:58] <sinta[x[> okay so the last thing that it loads is like HP UX Printing services, and thats like right after Gnome Dispay Manager, then it goes right to a black screen and locks the  system up with a _ on the screen
[02:58] <vorbote> The dirirect access to the source diles: http://debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/
[02:58] <vorbote> s/diles/files/
[02:59] <sinta[x[> what comes after breezy
[02:59] <gnomefreak> Toaster54: please use the update manager way
[02:59] <Tommck> windy? ;)
[02:59] <cpk2> ekp: no problem =) but from glancing at your conversation maybe you need to tell xorg.conf your vert sync and horiz refresh? or vert refresh and horiz sync i can never remember it correctly
[02:59] <gnomefreak> sinta[x[: dapper
[02:59] <Toaster54> Yea ok, i found a way anyways. Thanks gnomefreak
[03:00] <reiki> if I manually edit /bott/grub/menu.lst will I screw anything up? :) I want to try booting my other hard drive and I know it has a complete Dapper install on it still
[03:00] <Kameli> Does ubuntu have any MD5CheckSum software because i want check my MD5 because i'm downloading new edgy and burn it to CD
[03:00] <gnomefreak> Toaster54: reason i say that is its safer
[03:00] <Kameli> ?
[03:00] <Tommck> does apt generally have problems with http proxies?  Or is there something special about my DirecWay proxy?
[03:00] <gnomefreak> reiki: if you mess up yes
[03:00] <vorbote> reiki: not if you read *all* those comment lines first...
[03:00] <ekp> cpk2: should not that be entered in xorg.conf automatically upon detection of graphics card and monitor?
[03:00] <gnomefreak> Kameli: md5sum <ISO>
[03:00] <Kameli> gnomefreak: ok :>
[03:01] <gnomefreak> Kameli: md5sum ~/edgy-desktop.iso  example
[03:01] <thandavarayan> reiki: NO, if you dont touch other listed items...then there is no problem, you can add as many things you want...
[03:01] <osh_> are these different in some way? /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7e4c000) and /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7e6b000)?
[03:01] <reiki> gnomefreak, basically I just want to boot hda1 instead of sda1. The boot images are in place and all that. Only entry I'm not sure of the the hd0,0 one
[03:01] <cpk2> ekp: I have noticed that ddcprobe does not seem to work very well for some reason
[03:01] <sinta[x[> gnomefreak the only way i can manage to get my system working is going to grub menu and choosing Recovery Mode :-\ woud it be okay to dist upgrade in this mode
[03:01] <ekp> cpk2: if I have to enter manually then I feel it must be a bug with 6.10
[03:01] <cpk2> ekp: try sudo ddcprobe and it probably wont tell you everything you should know =P
[03:01] <gnomefreak> reiki: in the line replace sda with hda but you should have UUID
[03:01] <Tommck> Can anyone tell me how to make apt-get download only one thing at a time?
[03:01] <cpk2> ekp: 6.10? dapper has problems too
[03:02] <chplanet_> kameli: md5sum - c 'check sum file e.g. MD5SUM'
[03:02] <reiki> gnomefreak UUID?
[03:02] <Matthai> Tommck, sudo apt-get install package_name
[03:02] <gnomefreak> reiki: what does it say on the kernel line
[03:02] <Matthai> what is the problem here?
[03:02] <ekp> cpk2: is 6.10 dapper or edgy
[03:02] <gnomefreak> ekp: edgy
[03:03] <cpk2> ekp: i guess read-edid might tell you what rates to use
[03:03] <thandavarayan> ekp: edgy
[03:03] <Tommck> Matthai - well... I'm doing a dist-upgrade... it's downloading in parallel
[03:03] <gyhu> hi. after upgrade (via terminal, internet), and reboot, i got only blank screen after uplsplash. what to do?
[03:03] <reiki> gnomefreak, /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-386 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash
[03:03] <ekp> edgt is what I a have
[03:03] <Kameli> chplanet_: so i do = md5sum - c '6.10-iso' ? :)
[03:03] <sinta[x[> in /etc/apt/sources.list which lines do i change from breezy to dapper and which ones of those do i uncomment ?
[03:03] <ross> thanks for help, i'll come back soon, ross
[03:03] <Matthai> you cannot run it simultaneously
[03:03] <gnomefreak> reiki: change the s to an h
[03:03] <bimberi> Tommck: what's the issue with that?
[03:03] <gnomefreak> sinta[x[: all of them
[03:03] <sinta[x[> ok
[03:03] <Tommck> bimberi - I'm on a crappy DirecWay service... every extra connection that goes out gets me closer to having my bandwidth throttled...
[03:03] <Matthai> bacause process is locked
[03:03] <ianmacgregor> Edgy is quite nice. I have only found one problem. When I set the PCM setting (volume control) all the way up, the sound stops for the entire system unil I reboot.
[03:03] <gnomefreak> sinta[x[: you need to change the word breezy to dapper
[03:04] <ekp> cpk2: the point is I do not want to have to edit config to get server to work
[03:04] <wobster> Hi everyone. I have a directory in my home-directory that I cannot access via cd from the shell but I can access it using nautilus. The access rights and owner look fine. What could it be?
[03:04] <klaxian> can i switch from ubuntu to xubuntu by just installing the xubuntu-desktop package?
[03:04] <reiki> gnomefreak,  better idea to just copy that entry and make the change? To preerve the original so I can back out if needed
[03:04] <sinta[x[> ok so even breezy-security to dapper-security ?
[03:04] <reiki> ?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> klaxian: you can run them both on same system
[03:04] <bimberi> Tommck: ah, fair enough
[03:04] <gnomefreak> reiki: no just change the s to an h
[03:04] <ekp> cpk2: if this is a bug then maybe it should be listed and resolved
[03:04] <Tommck> bimberi - and... it won't work through the HTTP proxy that DirecWay provides too
[03:04] <thandavarayan> wobster: what????? :) what does it says
[03:04] <gnomefreak> sinta[x[: yes
[03:04] <gnomefreak> sinta[x[: get rid of the cd rom repos too
[03:04] <klaxian> gnomefreak: cool...but i don't really want to...i want to force the user to use xfce...would i remove ubuntu-desktop after?
[03:05] <reiki> ok I'll give it a go and see what I break. :)  always an adventure
[03:05] <chplanet_> kameli: md5sum -c MD5SUM (file that comes with the distro)
[03:05] <gnomefreak> klaxian: not htat easy
[03:05] <ekp> cpk2: ran Dapper without any problems
[03:05] <wobster> thandavarayan, "permission denied". It's extremely strange
[03:05] <gnomefreak> klaxian: install xubuntu-desktop set it to the default
[03:05] <wobster> No kidding.
[03:05] <thandavarayan> wobster: yeah...
[03:05] <klaxian> gnomefreak: alrighty...how do i set the default?  in gdm.conf?
[03:05] <ayaa> how do I disable the blank screen mode, which activated after a few minutes? (using console and not X)
[03:06] <Kameli> chplanet_: so i don't need '' -characters? :P
[03:06] <thandavarayan> wobster: What directory is that...? may be nautilus has some bugs...I dont know. ;:-)
[03:06] <cpk2> ekp: well i have no clue about edgy, but dapper runs into problems with autodetecting via ddcprobe as well
[03:06] <vorbote> klaxian: there is a way to move a clean ubuntu install to a xubuntu install, but it is *not* for the weak of heart, or stomach...
[03:06] <chplanet_> kameli: no characters!
[03:06] <The_Machine> i could use everyone's opinion.  I use a Dell with Win XP Pro for work.  Dual booting with Ubuntu.  Want to run XP Pro in a VMware session.  How can i make it so i can install the Dell XP OS into VMware without it rejecting the CD saying that i'm not using a dell system?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> klaxian: in the gdm when you are chooseing the desktop you want to use choose xfce and it will ask you to make default
[03:06] <gnomefreak> klaxian: click make default
[03:06] <sinta[x[> ok gnomefreak, changed them all, now i need to sudo apt-get instal ubuntu-desktop then dist-upgrade ?
[03:06] <The_Machine> (because Dells don't have activation for XP, they do some kind of check to make sure they're installing on Dell hardware, i believe)
[03:06] <klaxian> gnomefreak: cool no prob
[03:06] <ekp> cpk2: is this an open bug with Dapper?
[03:06] <klaxian> gnomefreak: thanks for the help
[03:06] <cyzie> anyone has experience on software raid, mdadm ?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> sinta[x[: install ubuntu-desktop
[03:06] <sinta[x[> k
[03:07] <SteveC> I'm trying to get gdb to trace a friefox bug but it complains that /usr/bin/firefox is a script. If I try /usr/lib/firefox-bin then gdb complains that firefox can't find libraries. Can anyone help?
[03:07] <cpk2> ekp: i dunno, i didnt even think it was a bug in the first place
[03:07] <wobster> thandavarayan, crazy. The naming is "ia32" ... so encoding can't be the crux. But I just "solved" that. mv ia32 ia32 && mv ia33 ia32 did the trick. Some crazy corruption. But  fsck did not complain earlier ..
[03:07] <bimberi> Tommck: no answer sorry, but i'd suggest looking into apt.conf (ie. man apt.conf)
[03:07] <wobster> thandavarayan, and why the hell did nautilius wok?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> SteveC: install firefox-dbg
[03:07] <sinta[x[> it has a bunch of errors and said i may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems GNAM
[03:07] <Tommck> bimberi - yeah... I'll check it out
[03:07] <Emsj> hey
[03:07] <sinta[x[> gnomefreak** lol
[03:07] <ekp> cpk2: thnks will stick with what I have until resolved then
[03:07] <ppires> hi there. apt-get install vmware-player tries to remove gaim, gaim-enc and ubuntu-desktop. any workaround on this?
[03:07] <Kameli> chplanet_: ok, thx, im gonna install edgy because when i upgraded it from dapper it broke my locale :(
[03:08] <SteveC> gnomefreak: cool.. .then what happens?
[03:08] <osh_> My script-problem just gets weirder and weirder. The first time the script uses "head" it works fine. The second time it complains about a libc6 error.
[03:08] <eikke> hija
[03:08] <Emsj> I'm new on linux.. can somebody help me around ? :)
[03:08] <gnomefreak> sinta[x[: change your sources.list back to breezy
[03:08] <SteveC> gnomefreak: do I try running it with gdb?
[03:08] <thandavarayan> wobster: God only know, what nautilus is... :-)
[03:08] <chplanet_> kameli: good luck and enjoy!
[03:08] <bronze> Emsj: you mean tutyor you?
[03:08] <cpk2> ekp: its not that hard to edit your xorg.conf correctly to get the proper settings for your monitor...
[03:08] <gnomefreak> SteveC: you run dbg firefox than at the > you type run
[03:08] <sinta[x[> gnomefreak oh god hahah, i knew i shoud have backed it up, those a ot of lines to change i wish i coud 'replace
[03:08] <Emsj> i got to go
[03:08] <Emsj> byez
[03:08] <bronze> Emsj: you mean tutor you?
[03:08] <MacSlow> re
[03:08] <Emsj> oh im here
[03:08] <Emsj> yeah
[03:08] <Emsj> show me how stuff work here :)
[03:08] <nox-Hand_> Hi
[03:08] <ekp> cpk2: I know and I have edited in the past
[03:08] <gnomefreak> sinta[x[: you needed ubuntu-desktop before you try to upgrade
[03:09] <SteveC> gnomefreak: cheers
[03:09] <nox-Hand_> Ubuntu Video screen capture - what program should I use?
[03:09] <bronze> Emily- ask a specific question and someome will help you.
[03:09] <lastnode> nox-Hand_, gnome-screenshot?
[03:09] <sinta[x[> gnomefreak but i told you i tried that and it said it was current
[03:09] <rawi> when i try to connect to my windows 2003 share it say's Cannot open smb-workgroup-Server Files
[03:09] <Emsj> but i have to go
[03:09] <ekp> cpk2: but just to try new distro from a live CD puts me off.  I like what I am running now
[03:09] <Emsj> see you guys next time maybe
[03:09] <Emsj> kiss
[03:09] <bronze> Emsj: bye
[03:09] <gnomefreak> sinta[x[: than leave them
[03:09] <thandavarayan> rawi: Do you have samba running or...
[03:09] <gnomefreak> sinta[x[: leave them dapper than save it
[03:09] <gnomefreak> sinta[x[: let me know when you are there
[03:09] <jorgg-> if I install edgy, will there be a lot of old files laying around from dapper?
[03:10] <sinta[x[> ok
[03:10] <gnomefreak> jorgg-: not really
[03:10] <sinta[x[> they are al dapper
[03:10] <lastnode> nox-Hand_, Applications -> Accessories -> Take Screenshot
[03:10] <jorgg-> or should i use a clean install?
[03:10] <rawi> yes samba is running I connect with the gui just connect server browse network than I see my windwos shares
[03:10] <Max_Might> is it possible to upgrade from dapper to edgy from my country`s repository ???
[03:10] <ryanpg> hi all... when I do apt-get dist-upgrade, all the upstart stuff is to be removed. Why?
[03:10] <ppires> anyone here at all using vmware/vmplayer on ubuntu?
[03:10] <eikke> I got a major issue updating to edgy
[03:10] <gnomefreak> sinta[x[: after you save it close it and run sudo apt-get update
[03:10] <nox-Hand_> lastnode, VIDEO capture
[03:10] <nox-Hand_> Not a screenshot
[03:10] <nox-Hand_> :)
[03:10] <eikke> I editted sources.list, s/breezy/edgy, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:10] <eikke> result:
[03:10] <lastnode> nox-Hand_, sorry i must have read wrong.
[03:10] <ghost3> good morning everybody. my sound works fine threw my speakers on my laptop but no sound through my headphones. running an everex laptop, been tux fan for just over a year now. any help would be nice and thanks in advance.
[03:10] <eikke> http://pastebin.ca/224467
[03:10] <gnomefreak> ryanpg: it shouldnt be it should remove sysinit
[03:10] <nox-Hand_> lastnode, No problem :)
[03:10] <ekp> cpk2: there is no line at all for refresh rates in xorg.conf.........have to enter a new line not just edit existing line
[03:11] <gnomefreak> or something like that
[03:11] <SteveC> gnomefreak: I get dbg not found... you said I should run `dbg firefox` ?
[03:11] <sinta[x[> gnomefreak ok its downloading a ton of dapper files
[03:11] <mikl> ooops... somehow, I managed to chown my entire /var to www-data - how do I fix that?
[03:11] <sharperguy> so #ubuntu+1 forwards here now?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> SteveC: yes after you isntall firefox-dbg
[03:11] <lastnode> nox-Hand_, what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:11] <cpk2> ekp: Section "Monitor" ??
[03:11] <gnomefreak> sharperguy: yes there is no devel version atm
[03:11] <Max_Might> is it possible to upgrade from dapper to edgy from my country`s repository ???
[03:11] <ryanpg> gnomefreak, yeah that's what I thought
[03:11] <nox-Hand_> lastnode, Record a video of my desktop
[03:11] <sharperguy> k
[03:11] <SteveC> gnomefreak: says 'dbg not found'
[03:11] <lastnode> sharperguy, yes because #ubuntu+1 (feisty) is still not even worth talking about ;-)
[03:11] <eXceLibrius> i have problem ... i installed Ubuntu 6.10 now , and i cant find root consule ....... and in user consule su - dont works
[03:11] <nox-Hand_> Like, for tutorials, etc, lastnode
[03:11] <gnomefreak> Max_Might: gksudo "update-manager -c"
[03:12] <gnomefreak> Max_Might: type that as i did
[03:12] <lastnode> nox-Hand_, hmmm. i have no idea, sorry.
[03:12] <ryanpg> gnomefreak, yet it will remove upstart and install sysvinit
[03:12] <eXceLibrius> i have problem ... i installed Ubuntu 6.10 now , and i cant find root consule ....... and in user consule su - dont works
[03:12] <nox-Hand_> lastnode, No problem :)
[03:12] <rixxon> how can i verify that aiglx is enabled?
[03:12] <nox-Hand_> Anyone? Video screen capture in Linux?
[03:12] <ekp> cpk2: no ........just correct monitor.  Does give resolution options but no line for refresh rates
[03:12] <gnomefreak> !info firefox-dbg edgy
[03:12] <ubotu> firefox-dbg: debugging symbols for firefox. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 48218 kB, installed size 130480 kB
[03:12] <thandavarayan> eXceLibrius: su is disabled in ubuntu, use sudo
[03:12] <sharperguy> !sudo > eXceLibrius
[03:12] <TehUni2> is the easyubuntu site down?
[03:12] <Max_Might> gnomefreak, i did but i think it replaced my sources.list :S
[03:12] <TIM90> hey what do i do,
[03:12] <TIM90> Setting up totem (2.16.2-0ubuntu1) ...
[03:12] <TIM90> Setting up evolution-exchange (2.8.1-0ubuntu1) ...
[03:12] <TIM90> Setting up evolution-plugins (2.8.1-0ubuntu4) ...
[03:12] <TIM90> Setting up gnome-applets (2.16.1-0ubuntu3) ...
[03:12] <TIM90> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:12] <TIM90>  xffm4
[03:12] <gnomefreak> SteveC: its in main repo
[03:12] <thandavarayan> TIM90: dont flood
[03:12] <gnomefreak> TIM90: use pastebin
[03:12] <sharperguy> TIM90: please use the pastein
[03:12] <cyzie> how do i know my kernel have raid supported ?
[03:12] <tijn> TIM90: what they said ^
[03:13] <tijn> ;)
[03:13] <gnomefreak> TIM90: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[03:13] <cpk2> ekp: nothing that looks like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28654/
[03:13] <SteveC> gnomefreak: so if I try installing it I get 'E: Couldn't find package dbg'
[03:13] <TIM90> ok
[03:13] <Kameli> TIM90: hi im too 90 :D little ubuntu-kid
[03:13] <rixxon> i enabled aiglx but i don't notice any difference, should i?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> SteveC: are you trying to install firefox-dbg
[03:13] <sinta[x[> downloading dapper-universe packages
[03:13] <chplanet_> Has anybody installed a Dapper using hardware raid car 3ware 7006-2?
[03:13] <ghost3> can anyone help me with my head phone jack prob? no sound.
[03:13] <gnomefreak> or just dbg
[03:13] <ekp> cpk2:line 4 and 5 are missing
[03:14] <TIM90> ohh great
[03:14] <TIM90> so what do i do
[03:14] <cpk2> hrmm wierd
[03:14] <SteveC> gnomefreak: I've installed firefox-dbg. You said I should then run `dbg firefox` but bash can't find a program called `dbg`
[03:14] <thandavarayan> ghost3: what is your machine.
[03:14] <chplanet_> I meant raid card 3ware 7006-2!
[03:14] <gnomefreak> TIM90: run the command i gave you
[03:14] <ghost3> everex laptop
[03:14] <gnomefreak> install dbg
[03:14] <gnomefreak> dbg should be installed by default
[03:14] <kinga> Hi guys, this must be trivial. Can I upgrade to edgy from dapper using update-manager and a desktop CD or do I need alternate?
[03:14] <SteveC> gnomefreak: so I did but apt says it can't find a package called 'dbg'
[03:14] <thandavarayan> ghost3: do you have any info about lspci and lsmod or...
[03:15] <TIM90>  it says /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[03:15] <TIM90> 
[03:15] <gnomefreak> TIM90: i said sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[03:15] <bimberi> kinga: alternate
[03:15] <thandavarayan> ghost3: Which version of Ubuntu are you using now.
[03:15] <Kameli> TIM90: with sudo
[03:15] <ghost3> thandavarayan: 6.10
[03:16] <gnomefreak> SteveC: thats strange
[03:16] <thandavarayan> ghost3: Do you have any idea about the sound cards.,... is it from Intel or...
[03:16] <kinga> bimberi: there is a cdromupgrade file also in desktop
[03:16] <TIM90> done it,i just have to read now,lol
[03:16] <ghost3> thandavarayan: i never had it working before, just thought id go ahead and try to get it fixed
[03:16] <kinga> bimberi: but it doesn't seem to work :(
[03:16] <ekp> cpk2: line 4 and 5 are missing from my config
[03:16] <ghost3> thandavarayan: let me run lsmod
[03:16] <gnomefreak> SteveC: give me a mintue to check on this
[03:16] <Kameli> why i can't do sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[03:16] <thandavarayan> ghost3: no problem, try to see what sound card you got..
[03:17] <eXceLibrius> THx , i found sudo -i,
[03:17] <assasukasse> hi all, i need to use debdiff to patch update manager. how the hell should i use it???
[03:17] <bimberi> kinga: oh, that (the file) is new to me.  The desktop cd only has a small package repository of extras whereas the alternate uses packages for its install methods
[03:17] <assasukasse> i have a .debdiff file
[03:17] <ekp> cpk: no more time today thks for your help.........maybe tomorrow
[03:17] <SteveC> gnomefreak: do you mean gdb not dbg
[03:17] <chplanet_> Anyone with experience on Raid card 3ware 7006-2 with Ubuntu 6.06??????????????
[03:18] <ghost3> thandavarayan: ok, im not sure what im looking for in lsmod.
[03:18] <kinga> bimberi: thank you I will give it a go right now
[03:18] <gnomefreak> SteveC: yes sorry
[03:18] <nox-Hand_> Does anyone know what apps to use for video screen capture?
[03:18] <cpk2> ekp: hrmm well i guess thats wierd but it probably shouldnt hurt to add them in and use your own values (this is where I say screwing around with monitor settings *can* fry your monitor)
[03:18] <cpk2> and I am tired and need sleep
[03:18] <Marian> hi
[03:18] <SteveC> gnomefreak: so I do that and I get this
[03:18] <SteveC> (gdb) run
[03:18] <SteveC> Starting program: /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin
[03:18] <SteveC> /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:19] <thandavarayan> ghost3: lspci is better ;-)
[03:19] <gnomefreak> SteveC: and it stops?
[03:19] <ghost3> thandavarayan: k, let me look at that. brb
[03:19] <SteveC> gnomefreak: yes. that lib is in /usr/lib/firefox... .I suspect the bash script that is 'firefox' sets up a lot of library paths
[03:19] <TIM90> can i paste pin .please
[03:20] <TIM90> bin!
[03:20] <ehird> paste a bin
[03:20] <gnomefreak> SteveC: are you using the stock firefox
[03:20] <ehird> *pin
[03:20] <SteveC> gnomefreak: yes
[03:20] <gnomefreak> SteveC: i cant run it here
[03:20] <gnomefreak> SteveC: i have ff 3.0 here
[03:20] <darkanyel> Hello i have a proble, mi webcam only works with the rootm how can i change the permises?
[03:20] <Max_Might> do i have to change the repository list and replace dapper with edgy before upgrading to Edgy ????
[03:20] <gnomefreak> Max_Might: no
[03:21] <ghost3> thandavarayan: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[03:21] <gnomefreak> Max_Might: gksudo "update-manager -c"
[03:21] <SteveC> gnomefreak: this is my problem: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/68605
[03:21] <gnomefreak> Max_Might: it will do the rest for you
[03:21] <Marian> How long will it take until the new Firefox release is available via the packages? And is there anything against using the files from mozilla instead of the ubuntu packages?
[03:21] <thandavarayan> ghost3:  now lsmod and follow...
[03:21] <TIM90> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28655/
[03:21] <tijn> SteveC: how do you start firefox in that gdb program?
[03:21] <thandavarayan> ghost3: Is alsa installed or..
[03:21] <kri_> hi, i thought aiglx is activated by default in edgy, why cant i find an entry in my xorg.conf?
[03:22] <Max_Might> well the updater didnt do that, won i have # infron all of my repos.... :(
[03:22] <SteveC> tijn: I `cd /usr/lib/firefox` and then `gdb firefox-bin` then I do `>run`
[03:22] <erUSUL> tijn: 'gdb firefox' then in gdb type run enter
[03:22] <swanfl> I have a problem with the new init system in edgy. intermittently, the shut down portion of the system fails to call whatever process is used to physically shut the computer off
[03:22] <gnomefreak> Max_Might: did it put them there or did you?
[03:22] <kri_> i just installed the system and am using the radeon driver
[03:22] <gnomefreak> erUSUL: no
[03:22] <gnomefreak> tried that
[03:22] <Max_Might> i didnt
[03:22] <darkanyel> Hello i have a problem, mi webcam only works with the root i mean "sudo camorama" work but not only "camorama"
[03:22] <sinta[x[> gnomefreak ok apt-get update is done downloading al the packages
[03:22] <gnomefreak> Max_Might: please paste you sources.list o pastebin
[03:22] <sinta[x[> well, it downloaded a bunch of crap
[03:23] <gnomefreak> sinta[x[: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:23] <Max_Might> gnomefreak, okay just a sec
[03:23] <erUSUL> gnomefreak:  <SteveC> tijn: I `cd /usr/lib/firefox` and then `gdb firefox-bin` then I do `>run`
[03:23] <gnomefreak> SteveC: this si looking alot like a flash bug
[03:23] <tijn> ah ic
[03:23] <wabz> is network-manager supposed to work with all kinds of networks?
[03:23] <ghost3> thandavarayan: hmmm. no alsa
[03:23] <tijn> i get the same error about libmozjs.so
[03:24] <thandavarayan> have to install alsa ;-)
[03:24] <SteveC> tijn: gnomefreak: I'll see if I can shut off flash
[03:24] <wabz> is network-manager actually supposed to _WORK_?
[03:24] <ghost3> thandavarayan: apt-get install alsa ?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> SteveC: if removing flash works let me know i will go searching for the dup of that bug it should have more info on it
[03:24] <erUSUL> wabz: depends on the wifi card you have
[03:24] <tijn> SteveC: what are your spec's, you seem to have the same error as me
[03:24] <thandavarayan> ghost3: alsa* is better
[03:24] <wabz> erUSUL: what about... if I don't have a wifi card?
[03:24] <rc-1>  i did from gimpfu import *, but it says error no module named gimpfu, how do i fi
[03:25] <gnomefreak> tijn: it sounds like a flash bug ive run into before
[03:25] <thandavarayan> ghost3: if you use synaptic, then you can choose...
[03:25] <SteveC> tijn: just a 1 year old dell box I just put edgy on... any idea how to shut down flash?
[03:25] <delcoyote> linux is GREAT!!!! running kde3.3 on a 64mb cyrix 300 comp
[03:25] <Kameli> What filesystem in Ubuntu has best performance?
[03:25] <darkanyel> Hello i have a problem, mi webcam only works with the root i mean "sudo camorama" work but not only "camorama" why??
[03:25] <gnomefreak> SteveC: remove it or make a new profile for a new users should do it
[03:25] <ghost3> thandavarayan: thanks. ill try that.
[03:25] <yukio> Sorry, why when i reload repository, apt try to connect to "Translation-it" then it just ignores that task?
[03:25] <SteveC> gnomefreak: oh, it's a package? cool
[03:25] <thandavarayan> darkanyel: add the webcam to normal user
[03:25] <gnomefreak> SteveC: flashplugin-nonfree
[03:25] <darkanyel> how thandavarayan ??
[03:25] <tijn> SteveC: nope, iam trying to get it gone myself...
[03:26] <thandavarayan> ghost3: after that you may need a reboot...
[03:26] <ghost3> ok
[03:26] <SteveC> gnomefreak: got any other ideas: Package flashplugin-nonfree is not installed, so not removed
[03:26] <dredhammer> hello can someone explain the firestarter wizard to me it says that internet and lan cannot be the same device yet the only choice i have is eth0 or Ipv6
[03:26] <thandavarayan> darkanyel: Users and Groups -> some where you set the permission to access...
[03:26] <dredhammer> and i don't use Ipv6
[03:26] <gnomefreak> SteveC: in the address bar of firefox type about:plugins   tell me if you see flash in there
[03:26] <ryanpg> how bout this... how can I tell what package is requiring sysvinit to be installed and upstart removed
[03:27] <gnomefreak> brb tell me when i get back
[03:27] <SteveC> gnomefreak: good point. yes it does.
[03:27] <erUSUL> wabz: well nm with wired nets should be straight fordward...
[03:27] <Tristan> I have a problem : I upgraded to edgy and I can go until the session manager. There whatever session I want to launch it doesn't work. When I boot recovery mode and do a startx I'm logged in into a gnome session. How can I fix my problem?
[03:27] <ghost3> thandavarayan: sorry to interupt, it shows alsa-base as installed already
[03:27] <wabz> erUSUL: It's claiming I don't have a network connection, when clearly I do
[03:27] <Pelo> damit
[03:27] <yukio> Sorry, why when i reload repository, apt try to connect to "Translation-it" then it just ignores that task?
[03:28] <thandavarayan> ghost3: then run alsamixer in the terminal.
[03:28] <thandavarayan> ghost3: and see whether anything is muted..or not...
[03:28] <Pelo> I keep getting this error message when trying to update to 6.10 -> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Le sous-processus gzip a renvoy un code d'erreur (1)
[03:28] <erUSUL> wabz: have you disabled them in /etc/network/interfaces ??
[03:28] <thandavarayan> ghost3: check the volume levels.
[03:28] <SteveC> gnomefreak: ah, its in my home dir plugins
[03:28] <wabz> No. I have one static IP configured, it's connected, or I wouldn't be here
[03:28] <assasukasse> could someone tell me how to use a .debdiff?
[03:29] <Tristan> shold I refotmat and do a fresh install?
[03:29] <ghost3> thandavarayan: master m, lfe are muted
[03:29] <darkanyel> thandavarayan, my user has all the permisions but i camt use the webcam :S
[03:29] <thandavarayan> ghost3: un.mute it by pressing m :-)
[03:29] <erUSUL> wabz: afaik nm does not manage conections defined in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:29] <erUSUL> !networkmanager
[03:29] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[03:29] <cubny> i'm a flash developer and designer, how can i switch to ubuntu?
[03:30] <Tristan> is there any file I need to erase so that I can log in?
[03:30] <gyhu> hi. how to get acces to hdd under livecd?
[03:30] <assasukasse> cubny just install and try it
[03:30] <wabz> erUSUL: what's it good for then, besides tricking many applications into believing I don't have a network connection and they'll fail to connect?
[03:30] <AngryElf> how can i enable the vnc server from the command line?
[03:30] <thandavarayan> ghost3: Do you get the sound now...or...
[03:31] <AngryElf> i know in gdm there's a dialog w/ a check box....
[03:31] <cubny> assasukasse: i can not install it, because it's only support widnows and mac
[03:31] <gyhu> how to get acces to hdd partitions under livecd?
[03:31] <ripper> anyone know how i can get mp3's to play with all my media players on edgy?
[03:31] <erUSUL> gyhu: System>Admin>Disks
[03:31] <dabaR__> AngryElf: sudo invoke-rc.d <vncServerName> start
[03:31] <JosefK> !mp3 > ripper
[03:31] <thandavarayan> darkanyel: Did you saw any thing for webcam or...is webcam entry is there for normal user.
[03:31] <erUSUL> wabz: it's usefull with different confs for wifi connections
[03:31] <cubny> ripper: http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full
[03:31] <AngryElf> what is vncServerName suppose to be....localhost?
[03:31] <thandavarayan> gyhu: you have to mount and see... :-)
[03:32] <lalla7_11> what is the difference between cd and dvd version?
[03:32] <gravyface_> good morning/afternoon/evening all
[03:32] <wabz> erUSUL: "NetworkManager attempts to keep an active network connection available at all times."
[03:32] <assasukasse> cubny what are you saying, u are on a mac?
[03:32] <thandavarayan> ripper: You need to install gst-plugins-ugly :-)
[03:32] <tijn> SteveC: iam afk for a while, if you know more, say my name, so i can search for the highlight :)
[03:32] <AngryElf> dabaR__: it says invoke-rc2.d: file not found
[03:33] <AngryElf> command not found
[03:33] <SteveC> tijn:  I mixed it
[03:33] <SteveC> fixed
[03:33] <wabz> erUSUL: I'm pretty sure this is supposed to manage wired connections as well
[03:33] <tijn> uh how?
[03:33] <Garito> hi all
[03:33] <Pelo> back later
[03:33] <cubny> assasukasse: no, i said, flash, only supports windows and mac, it doesnt support linux
[03:33] <SteveC> tijn: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/68605
[03:33] <seanh> Hi folks, I was just wondering if there's any way to get update manager or synaptic to download everything need to upgrade from dapper-edgy, but not actually install it yet, so I can keep working for now
[03:33] <Garito> anyone knows if edgy has wpa supplicant integrated on the gnome manager?
[03:33] <assasukasse> cubny macromedia flash?
[03:34] <dabaR__> AngryElf: mine has no number 2
[03:34] <cubny> assasukasse yes
[03:34] <gravyface_> how do you pass username/password parameters to mount when trying to connect to an NFS share?  I tried -o username=foo,password=bar but I'm getting "Bad nfs mount parameter: username"
[03:34] <tijn> SteveC: but that removes flash right?
[03:34] <SteveC> tijn: yes, but I don't care
[03:34] <tijn> ah thnx anyway, have to go
[03:34] <erUSUL> seanh: use apt-get with the -d option (download only)
[03:34] <tijn> SteveC: i need it for work :)
[03:34] <seanh> Are there really only 44 users in here?
[03:34] <assasukasse> cubny i don't know about it, but i use a flash plugin with no efforts in edgy..btw did u try to make it work with wine? check if it does
[03:34] <michaels> I want to format the partitions Ubuntu is on and install a fresh edgy on it. is there any directory under / other than home that I should keep if I don't want to lose data? (I don't care about app settings.)
[03:34] <VanessaE> ...since when did nfs allow for username/passwd?
[03:35] <cubny> assasukasse ok tnx for ur help
[03:35] <gravyface_> VanessaE: no clue
[03:35] <exhale> if i want to use a partition for backups, say movies and things like that, is it okay to leave it mounted as /media/sda5 for example?
[03:35] <VanessaE> michaels: back up your /etc directory also, you might need to refer back to it to redo your settings for edgy
[03:36] <seanh> erUSUL -- hmm.. guess I have to edit sources.list first, then do sudo apt-get -d dist-upgrade ?
[03:36] <michaels> VenessaE: can you sum up for me what exactly /etc is? =x
[03:36] <VanessaE>  /etc is your system-wide config directory
[03:36] <michaels> *VanessaE: can you sum up for me what exactly /etc is? =x
[03:36] <erUSUL> seanh: see /topic for the intructions page on how to upgrade
[03:36] <michaels> thanks VanessaE. is there no other directory that I should bother to keep?
[03:36] <VanessaE> everything from password hashes to apt configs to X configs, you name it.
[03:36] <exhale> michaels: /etc/ is a directory for configuration files
[03:37] <VanessaE> no
[03:37] <leftjustified> *sigh* something's gone quite wrong with my edgy upgrade -- NV driver didn't upgrade and is compiled for Xorg7.0; I can't apt-get anything because it throws a dependancy issue relating to python-card (which I don't need) and I can't 'apt-get -f install' as suggested as it has a conflict issue on a py-card config file. I backedup/rm'ed the conf file and still no luck... any advice?
[03:37] <VanessaE> not unless you've created one and put personal data in it
[03:37] <gigiven> i'm italian  .........  #ubuntu.it?
[03:37] <VanessaE> (for me, there's a directory called /rainbird that I'd be really upset if I lost :)
[03:37] <The_Machine> how to make it so that totem plays wmv files?
[03:37] <LjL> gigiven: #ubuntu-it
[03:37] <VanessaE> !il
[03:37] <ubotu>          
[03:37] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[03:37] <leftjustified> could I possibly use dkpg to force removal of python-card?
[03:37] <VanessaE> d'oh!
[03:37] <VanessaE> !it
[03:37] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:37] <gigiven> thks
[03:37] <michaels> cool, thanks a ton VanessaE :)
[03:38] <Tommck> I am having download problems doing a dist-upgrade.  Is there an option for apt-get that tells it to install what it can?
[03:38] <gigiven> grazie LjL
[03:38] <LjL> gigiven: di niente
[03:38] <VanessaE> --ignore-missing
[03:38] <Garito> Some wpa supplicant help, please?
[03:38] <Tommck> thanks VanessaE
[03:38] <gravyface_> VanessaE: how do you authenticate against NFS?  I've set up a NFS share on our new NAS with a username and password
[03:39] <VanessaE> Tommck: don't expect miracles though
[03:39] <VanessaE> gravy: no clue, I'd never heard of NFS using username/password auth
[03:39] <gravyface_> oi
[03:39] <Tommck> VanessaE - I don't... I don't believe that anything I'm installing requires a new kernel (that's what's not downloading)
[03:39] <gravyface_> VanessaE: when I try without the credz, I get "permission denied"
[03:40] <gravyface_> I'll frolick elsewhere.  Thanks anyways
[03:40] <The_Machine> how to make it so that totem plays wmv files?
[03:40] <VanessaE> wait...
[03:40] <jrib> The_Machine: install totem-xine and get w32codecs is one way
[03:40] <Tommck> VanessaE - who wait?
[03:40] <VanessaE> gravyface..
[03:40] <jrib> !w32codecs > The_Machine
[03:41] <The_Machine> :)
[03:41] <erUSUL> The_Machine: totem-xine or totem-gstreamer ??
[03:41] <The_Machine> i believe it's gstreamer
[03:41] <Garito> don't prefer vlc?
[03:41] <The_Machine> (whatever the default "Move Player" is for ubuntu")
[03:41] <gravyface_> VanessaE: I'm here
[03:41] <gravyface_> just googlin'
[03:41] <The_Machine> well, i just figured they would make the 'best one' the default
[03:41] <The_Machine> guess not.
[03:41] <chrismhampson> snoops: thanks for your help earlier...i've got XGL working perfectly now!
[03:41] <leftjustified> *sigh* something's gone quite wrong with my edgy upgrade -- NV driver didn't upgrade and is compiled for Xorg7.0; I can't apt-get anything because it throws a dependancy issue relating to python-card (which I don't need) and I can't 'apt-get -f install' as suggested as it has a conflict issue on a py-card config file. I backedup/rm'ed the conf file and still no luck... any advice?
[03:42] <The_Machine> (using gstreamer)
[03:42] <The_Machine> just checked.
[03:42] <erUSUL> The_Machine: install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll and w32codecs
[03:42] <The_Machine> thanks
[03:42] <The_Machine> :)
[03:43] <AngryElf> so I've got a VNC connection to the box, but I know that the remote box is prompting to allow the connection.....how can i disable this via SSH?
[03:43] <Garito> sorry I'm testing edgy. I'll be back with dapper. See U
[03:43] <erUSUL> leftjustified: try removing --purging python-card
[03:44] <leftjustified> erSUL: thankyou :)
[03:44] <leftjustified> erSUL: is that dpkg --purge <package> ?
[03:44] <The_Machine> another question - anyone got citrix ICA 9 client to work with ubuntu?
[03:45] <kyaneos_> hi
[03:45] <B|nTaRa> hello
[03:45] <kyaneos_> i have some problems installing nvidia-glx on edgy
[03:45] <procrastinator> is there no way of using f-spot to manage one's photos without having to use its crappy folder structure in ~/Photos?
[03:45] <kyaneos_> can somebody help me?
[03:45] <erUSUL> leftjustified: first see if it works ;) (sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>)
[03:45] <kyaneos_> please
[03:45] <mjelva> !pastebin
[03:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:45] <jorgg-> how can I change the sensetivity of the mousepad when using tapping to click?
[03:45] <thandavarayan> ghost3: any success or..
[03:45] <Jessehk> I just upgraded to edy eft, and I get the Kubuntu splash screen. How can I switch to the Ubuntu version?
[03:45] <erUSUL> !anyone | kyaneos_
[03:45] <ubotu> kyaneos_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:45] <B|nTaRa> i have 6.06 installer .. if i install 6.06 .. can i update to 6.10 online ?
[03:45] <kyaneos_> ok
[03:45] <B|nTaRa> and how to update it ?
[03:45] <kyaneos_> i can not install nvidia-glx
[03:45] <kyaneos_> on edy
[03:45] <kyaneos_> edgy
[03:46] <TIM90> Configuring console-data ,i cant select  <Ok>
[03:46] <VanessaE> gravyface_, it looks like what you want is something like   user:passwd@server:/path/to/share
[03:46] <Dimensions> how do i empty  'last' which holds system logging in information ... ???
[03:46] <B|nTaRa> !upgrade
[03:46] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[03:46] <leftjustified> erUSUL: any call to apt-get * causes the whinge about unmet dependancies (pythoncard) and suggests apt-get -f install
[03:46] <gravyface_> VanessaE: wicked.  How'd you find that?  I've been googlin for an hour
[03:47] <VanessaE> i googled for it ;)
[03:47] <VanessaE> this is just a guess
[03:47] <VanessaE> but the RFC seems to say that this is the right form.
[03:47] <leftjustified> apt-get -f install throws an error on accessing the pythoncard config file; which I renamed (to no effect)
[03:47] <gravyface_> VanessaE: doh.  I'm being anal, but what terms were you searching for?
[03:47] <VanessaE> nfs username
[03:48] <gravyface_> VanessaE: wow.  lol ok.
[03:48] <gravyface_> VanessaE: I'll try it out; brb
[03:48] <erUSUL> leftjustified: can you post the exact error (use pastebin)
[03:48] <VanessaE> this seems to apply to OS-X, so it might work on linux too (seeing how OS-X is based on BSD)
[03:48] <B|nTaRa> should i download 6.10 edgy ? or continue installing using 6.06 dapper drake ?
[03:48] <exhale> if i want to use a partition for backups, say movies and things like that, is it okay to leave it mounted as /media/sda5 for example?
[03:48] <leftjustified> erUSUL: certainly, but it'll take a little bit to retype into this machine...
[03:48] <VanessaE> you can mount it however you like, exhale
[03:48] <melvin> can someone tell me where to downloar enemy territory?
[03:48] <VanessaE> just don't use some mount point the system already yses
[03:49] <exhale> VanessaE: so i dont need it set like /backup or something?
[03:49] <VanessaE> exhale: nope
[03:49] <ianmacgregor> exhale: There's no harm in it. I have /dev/hdb1 mounted on /mnt/hdb1 constantly
[03:49] <Zaggynl> wtf, rhythmbox refuses to quit, it keeps coming back D:
[03:49] <erUSUL> leftjustified: just copy paste it
[03:49] <exhale> rhythmbox is a pain :/
[03:49] <alf____> hi
[03:49] <VanessaE> the mountpoint can take almost any name you want, and any mountable device you like can be mounted there.
[03:50] <alf____> does anyone encounter problems with Eclipse EMF diagram since upgrading to edgy ?
[03:50] <melvin> where can i fins enemy territory?
[03:50] <Garito> hi again
[03:50] <melvin> find
[03:50] <leftjustified> erUSUL: different physical machines; b0rked box is command line only
[03:50] <thandavarayan> melvin: what repos are there in your source.list file
[03:50] <Kameli> melvin: http://enemy-territory.4players.de:1041/news.php
[03:51] <exhale> how much is recommended to use for /   i have room for about 80gig tops
[03:51] <ghost> how can i make my window borders (half-)transparent in edgy?
[03:51] <erUSUL> leftjustified: dohh :(
[03:51] <Kameli> melvin: always use that first, it's the official page :>
[03:51] <VanessaE> gravyface_, did that work?
[03:51] <thandavarayan> exhale: depends on what you want?
[03:51] <xpk> whats default filesystem format on Edgy plz?
[03:51] <Kameli> melvin: you need to make an account there, and then go to the downloads-section
[03:51] <ripper> does anyone know if beryl works on the i810 chipset?
[03:51] <gravyface_> VanessaE: no, but I think we're on the right track
[03:52] <exhale> thandavarayan: well not much just a few apps i guess thats it
[03:52] <thandavarayan> xpk: ext3
[03:52] <xpk> ty
[03:52] <Kefir> xpk, ext3
[03:52] <Garito> does Edgy integrate wpa supplicant on gnome network manager?
[03:52] <thandavarayan> exhale: then 3-4 G is enough...
[03:52] <Garito> thanks!
[03:52] <xpk> tough so =)
[03:52] <ianmacgregor> Does Edgy have XGL or Compiz installed by default? If so, how do I access it?
[03:52] <VanessaE> gravy: rats.
[03:52] <ghost> how can i use this aiglx?
[03:53] <chplanet_> where can I get a list of hardware raid cards supported by ubuntu Dapper or Edgy?
[03:53] <ianmacgregor> Where are those wobbly windows I heard about in Edgy?
[03:53] <AngryElf> anyone know how i can disable the remote prompt for the vncserver that asks the local user on the remote machine for confirmation?
[03:53] <thandavarayan> ianmacgregor: you may need glx and compiz stuff :-)
[03:53] <ghost> yeah were are those wobbly windows?
[03:53] <ianmacgregor> thandavarayan: Oh, I thought it was installed with Edgy
[03:54] <leftjustified> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28661/
[03:54] <bowman> heya. anyone know how to avoid blinking windows in xfce4? the taskbar entries of openoffice, gimp etc. keep blinking, which makes me mad
[03:54] <ripper> ok when i try to play an avi i get sound but no video
[03:54] <thandavarayan> ghost: compiz is still on dirty edgy so...it will take more time when it is officially recognized...
[03:54] <ripper> !avi
[03:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:54] <maxflax> what is compiz?
[03:54] <ianmacgregor> !compiz
[03:54] <Kefir> bowman, do you use beryl?
[03:54] <thandavarayan> ianmacgregor: compiz is still on dirty edgy so...it will take more time when it is officially recognized...
[03:54] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:54] <ripper> same with mpeg movies
[03:54] <ghost> thandavarayan: i know i can be installed, but it's still very "hacky", isn't it?
[03:54] <B|nTaRa> !upgrade
[03:55] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[03:55] <ianmacgregor> thandavarayan: "dirty edgy"?
[03:55] <thandavarayan> ianmacgregor: I mean it is still very buggy... :-)
[03:55] <ianmacgregor> thandavarayan: Ahh, ok. Thanks
[03:55] <thandavarayan> ianmacgregor: www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:56] <gigiven> i'm looking for Magnet Link Azureus Download
[03:56] <thandavarayan> ianmacgregor: there you may find what you need... :-) Good Luck
[03:56] <erUSUL> leftjustified: i mean the error that emits 'apt-get -f install'
[03:56] <gigiven> to open with firefox
[03:56] <bowman> Kefir: nope
[03:56] <ianmacgregor> thandavarayan: Thank you very much :)
[03:56] <Sugarat> How to I get listen music player to read mp3s ?
[03:56] <leftjustified> erUSUL: DOH! sorry, will type it up now
[03:56] <thandavarayan> ghost: yes...very much indeed...by the way do you got the sound now or...
[03:56] <ghost> thandavarayan: sound?
[03:57] <thandavarayan> ghost: oops...wrong reference ;-)
[03:57] <ghost> thandavarayan: there are probalby too many ghosts in #ubuntu ...  :-)
[03:57] <Sugarat> I assume I'm missing some kind of mp3 library
[03:58] <thandavarayan> ghost: probably...
[03:58] <thandavarayan> Sugarat: You dont, ubuntu policy is so...
[03:58] <Sugarat> I don't ?
[03:59] <Sugarat> I don't what?
[03:59] <jorgg-> wont my old files be laying around unused if I install Edgy Eft with distupgrade from dapper?
[03:59] <ghost> thandavarayan: anyway, should i rather use beryl or compiz? and  can't i just aiglx with metacity?
[03:59] <thandavarayan> ghost: I am fine with compiz
[04:00] <mjelva> i'm trying to compile modules for lirc (using make-kpkg), but it keeps crapping out. i can't make sense of this. at first i got the following error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28660/. then, after creating a faux /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28663/) i get the following error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28662/. can anyone help me with this?
[04:00] <leftjustified> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28664/  <-- renaming the config file in question made no difference
[04:01] <compengi> if i'm using wget how can i pause my download?
[04:01] <kyaneos_> how can i install nvidia drivers??
[04:01] <mjelva> compengi: just abort it and -c it later?
[04:01] <Sugarat> How do I get my music player to play mp3s ?
[04:01] <JosefK> !mp3
[04:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:01] <compengi> !nvidia > kyaneos_
[04:01] <The_Machine> heh, here's a stupid question:  Where's the most common place to put apps in the filesystem
[04:01] <Tommck> where is the apt-get log file if any?
[04:01] <Sugarat> I installed listen from automatix and it still doesnt play mp3s
[04:02] <mjelva> The_Machine: /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
[04:02] <JosefK> The_Machine: echo $PATH
[04:02] <The_Machine> k
[04:02] <The_Machine> thanks
[04:02] <mjelva> depends if you installed it yourself or not
[04:02] <mjelva> default stuff is in /bin
[04:02] <LjL> !automatix | Sugarat
[04:02] <ubotu> Sugarat: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[04:02] <mjelva> The_Machine: if you're looking for something in particular, use 'which'. "which 'app'"
[04:02] <Sugarat> Ljl: I'm not looking for automatix support.
[04:03] <The_Machine> no, i just downloaded it and it's a binary file
[04:03] <The_Machine> don't want to keep it in my home folder
[04:03] <Sugarat> I just want to play some music in Ubuntu
[04:03] <The_Machine> would rather put it 'with the other apps'
[04:03] <The_Machine> heh
[04:03] <The_Machine> :)
[04:03] <mjelva> rite...
[04:03] <ghost> thandavarayan: aiglx or xgl?
[04:03] <mjelva> i wouldn't put it in any of those directories, in that case
[04:03] <mjelva> those folders only hold the bin files
[04:03] <maxflax> I was trying to install the binaries from Nvidia for my graphics card and I got errors first error was something about my kernel interface not macthing their interface bla bla bla. so I continued to let them build it.. got errors after that aswell. so now Im stuck.. any one now how to install the nvidia binaries ?
[04:03] <The_Machine> hmm
[04:03] <JosefK> hi, just wondering if anyone knows how to instruct totem, using xine-lib, to use tvtime deinterlacing?
[04:03] <LjL> Sugarat: it sounds like you have installed automatix, though. so we probably cannot help you here, since your system is now in a pretty unsupported state
[04:03] <LjL> !mp3 > sugarat
[04:03] <mjelva> i'm trying to compile modules for lirc (using make-kpkg), but it keeps crapping out. i can't make sense of this. at first i got the following error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28660/. then, after creating a faux /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28663/) i get the following error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28662/. can anyone help me with this?
[04:03] <LjL> try this anyway
[04:04] <leftjustified> erUSUL: did that error msg make any sense?
[04:04] <Sugarat> oh frigging great.  So everyone on all the forums says to just use this wonderful automatix and now nobody will help me
[04:04] <Tommck> what does a status of "half-configured" mean in dpkg.log?
[04:04] <Daverocks> maxflax: if you're using the nvidia installer, then you need to get the kernel sources so it can build modules from that
[04:04] <LjL> Sugarat: too bad that they say that on the forums, but it's not my fault
[04:04] <Garito> LjL is better Easyubuntu?
[04:04] <B|nTaRa> !dualboot
[04:04] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[04:04] <mjelva> Tommck: probably that you should run dpkg --configure
[04:04] <wijnand> is there any advantage to installing edgy fresh from the cdrom over upgrading with upgrade manager?
[04:04] <Tommck> mjelva - on that particular package?
[04:04] <LjL> Garito: possibly. but the best is reading the documentation. which we'll be pretty glad to point you at - and help you if you still can't follow some passages
[04:04] <mjelva> yes
[04:04] <Sugarat> I cant really see how installing a music player through automatix prevents anyone from suggesting how I can install mp3 support
[04:04] <compengi> mjelva, are edgy mirrors resumable?
[04:05] <mjelva> compengi: dunno. try it.
[04:05] <Tommck> mjelva - ahh... but it won't install
[04:05] <mjelva> Tommck: then i don't know
[04:05] <Garito> can you point to this documentation exactly?
[04:05] <LjL> Sugarat: indeed, i just gave you a pointer to the standard way for installing mp3 support
[04:05] <Garito> ubuntu documentation?
[04:05] <maxflax> Daverocks, I got the source for the kernel in /usr/src/ .. the whole source since i have built my own kernel out of the 2.6.18.1 version
[04:05] <LjL> Sugarat: i'm just not sure it will work with automatix installed
[04:05] <condorito> i have a problem running ubuntu live user
[04:05] <sinta[x[> lol gnomefreak the updates are downloading at like 1K/s
[04:06] <gnomefreak> sinta[x[: ok
[04:06] <mjelva> i'm trying to compile modules for lirc (using make-kpkg), but it keeps crapping out. i can't make sense of this. at first i got the following error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28660/. then, after creating a faux /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28663/) i get the following error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28662/. can anyone help me with this? i'm running edgy, i have ...
[04:06] <ndis> since Ubuntu 6.10 came out, how long does apt-get dist-upgrade take?
[04:06] <Sugarat> I must have missed the pointer. what is the standard way of installing support for mp3s ?
[04:06] <Daverocks> maxflax: hmm. what error message exactly does the nvidia installer throw?
[04:06] <LjL> !ask | condorito
[04:06] <ubotu> condorito: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:06] <mjelva> ... linux-source-2.6.17 installed as well as lirc-modules-source.
[04:06] <mjelva> ndis: depends. some mirrors are swamped. others, not so much.
[04:06] <TIM90> how do i check if my upgrade to edgy was succesful
[04:06] <condorito> yes sorry i am looking for the error
[04:06] <gnomefreak> sinta[x[: thats not all that uncommon for slow connections or alot of users using the repos
[04:06] <erUSUL> leftjustified: try removing python2.4-pythoncard
[04:06] <gnomefreak> TIM90: did you reboot into the 2.6.17 kernel?
[04:06] <leftjustified> erUSUL: tried it.
[04:06] <ndis> mjelva, I already have 6.06, just want to upgrade it, that's all (I've got 1MB ADSL)
[04:06] <Garito> Ljl: ubuntu documentation?
[04:06] <leftjustified> erUSUL: that triggers the first error again
[04:06] <TIM90> i didnt check
[04:07] <mjelva> ndis: so...apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:07] <maxflax> Daverocks, good question. I have to run it again to check.. brb
[04:07] <gnomefreak> ndis: gksudo "update-manager -c"
[04:07] <zmo> hi, I upgraded from dapper to edgy, and I'm trying to get X7.1 and beryl working
[04:07] <leftjustified> it's the eternal loop of broken config damnation
[04:07] <condorito> ok
[04:07] <TIM90> im asking bcouse i had many errors
[04:07] <condorito> i am getting this error
[04:07] <condorito> Buffer I/O error on device dm-4, logical block 6292943
[04:07] <LjL> Garito: http://help.ubuntu.com and http://help.ubuntu.com/community
[04:07] <mjelva> gnomefreak: fuck that. apt-get.
[04:07] <_richi_> 8[04:07] <gnomefreak> mjelva: no
[04:07] <condorito> someone told me to do a ram check
[04:07] <condorito> using memtest
[04:07] <Garito> Thanks LjL
[04:07] <thandavarayan> ghost: xgl
[04:07] <condorito> which is in my ubuntu cd
[04:07] <LjL> Garito: but if you need a pointer for something specific, please feel free to ask
[04:07] <gnomefreak> mjelva: update-manager fixes the issues people would run into
[04:07] <condorito> and i did
[04:07] <compengi> mjelva, i didn't get it how do i -c it?
[04:07] <mjelva> apt-get 4 lyfe. balalalalalala
[04:07] <condorito> and i found around 7k errors on my ram
[04:08] <mjelva> compengi: a wget? man wget.
[04:08] <ndis> mjelva,  what's wrong with apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:08] <ripper> gnomefreak a friend of mine just installed edgy on his system ( clean install) and we cant seem to get videos to play, he has sound on them, but no video
[04:08] <zmo> it used to work perfectly with Xgl, but it does not work anymore with x7.1, can anyone tell me a good howto for installing X7.1 with an ATI card and beryl ?
[04:08] <Garito> Easyubuntu or similar?
[04:08] <TIM90> is there a command
[04:08] <LjL> mjelva, what's going on? you sound upset
[04:08] <gnomefreak> mjelva: please dont give advice if you dont know the errors people will get
[04:08] <ndis> gnomefreak,  Whatdoes gksudo "update-manager -c" does, and why can't I use apt-get dist-upgrade, instead ?
[04:08] <JebJoya> hey all
[04:08] <condorito> is that the problem why i am getting the error?
[04:08] <_richi_>   
[04:08] <gnomefreak> ndis: is automates the upgrade for you and fixes most of the X issues
[04:08] <LjL> _richi_: i can't read what you're writing. can you speak english?
[04:08] <mjelva> gnomefreak: how do you "run into issues" with apt-get?
[04:09] <TIM90> mbe i should reboot ?
[04:09] <mjelva> ndis: nothing wrong with dist-upgrade
[04:09] <erUSUL> leftjustified: do not what else try rmove the deb from /var/cache/apt/ ?? (just in case it's corrupted)
[04:09] <gnomefreak> mjelva: have you upgraded to edgy? did you have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[04:09] <LjL> mjelva: oh, there's lots of ways ;)
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[04:09] <mjelva> i upgraded yesterday. no problems.
[04:09] <LjL> _richi_: what is you language? we have channels for various languages
[04:09] <h3htimo> hey guys, how do i get the apt to instal the rest of the apps that are left?? when i do a sudo apt-get upgrade it says i have 129 programs not upgraded, and i have them downloaded, just not installed, how do i install them??
[04:09] <Sugarat> can someone tell me how to install mp3 support please?
[04:10] <mjelva> oops
[04:10] <tonyyserver> !mp3 | Sugarat
[04:10] <ubotu> Sugarat: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:10] <gnomefreak> !mp3 | Sugarat
[04:10] <LjL> !upgrade > h3htimo
[04:10] <ndis> gnomefreak,  I see, and what does -c, since update-manager, doesn'thave a manual documentation of it.
[04:10] <h3htimo> LjL, thanks
[04:10] <TIM90> !upgrade
[04:10] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[04:10] <mjelva> i'm trying to compile modules for lirc (using make-kpkg), but it keeps crapping out. i can't make sense of this. at first i got the following error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28660/. then, after creating a faux /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28663/) i get the following error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28662/. can anyone help me with this?
[04:10] <gnomefreak> -c = current
[04:10] <condorito> !upgrade > condorito
[04:10] <cypher> hi there, im running beryl with kde and my keyboard layout (german) is gone. i got no pipe or "at" symbol. how can i fix this?
[04:10] <LjL> mjelva, please don't repeat every split minute
[04:10] <ripper> gnomefreak i've got all the stuff added to play movies , but he has sound, and a black screen
[04:10] <Garito> Sugarat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
 thank's but i dont need
[04:10] <gnomefreak> ripper: in flash?
[04:10] <mjelva> LjL: why don't you try and help me then, sweetheart? <3
[04:10] <ripper> gnomefreak no
[04:10] <gnomefreak> ripper: what type of file?
[04:11] <thandavarayan> ripper: what sound card do you have
[04:11] <LjL> mjelva: because i haven't compiled a kernel in years.
[04:11] <ripper> gnomefreak .avi or .mpeg
[04:11] <leftjustified> erUSUL: nope :( thanks for your help though!
[04:11] <mjelva> LjL: i'm compiling modules.
[04:11] <TehUni2> i'm having some trouble with intel 965 video. I've stumble across this page: http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html  and it seems to be what i need, but i dont know how to install thsoe drivers/modules. MESA is compiling now...
[04:11] <manudeb> hey a got a problem with writting on a USB external disk ....
[04:11] <mjelva> not a full kernel.
[04:11] <ripper> we have sound just no video
[04:11] <gnomefreak> ripper: use mplayer or install w32codecs
[04:11] <Garito> what about vlc?
[04:11] <JebJoya> right, I've sorted out some of my issues with my wireless card, I'm now sat on top of the wireless router, so... what do i do?
[04:11] <LjL> mjelva: well, i've done neither (modules are part of the kernel anyway)
[04:11] <manudeb> external disk in NTFS ?
[04:11] <ripper> gnomefreak we have mplayer and its not playing movies
[04:11] <h3htimo> LjL, thats not helping me
[04:11] <ndis> gnomefreak,  I see, and what does -c, since update-manager, doesn'thave a manual documentation of it. (sorry for repeating)
[04:11] <Sugarat> son of a bitch.  I follow the ubuntu docs for mp3 support and it breaks listen music player
[04:11] <gnomefreak> ripper: did you install the w32codecs
[04:12] <ripper> yes
[04:12] <thandavarayan> ripper: what does it says
[04:12] <gnomefreak> ndis: -c = current
[04:12] <LjL> h3htimo: well, you should have used update-manager in the first place, i believe. now the problem is that, instead, you used apt-get dist-upgrade, and you have unupgraded packages - correct?
[04:12] <ripper> not sure im working on his box via ssh and the phone :)
[04:12] <LjL> !language | sugarat
[04:12] <ubotu> sugarat: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:12] <gnomefreak> Sugarat: depends what player your using what codecs you need to install
[04:12] <LjL> Sugarat: you mean it breaks the Automatix-installed support?
[04:12] <h3htimo> LjL, yeah
[04:12] <WooD> Hi ! is there a big difference between kubuntu and ubuntu ?
[04:12] <LjL> h3htimo: do you have the "ubuntu-desktop" package installed? (type "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop")
[04:12] <manudeb> Hello.. how can I write on a external USB disk wich is in NFTS ?
[04:12] <leftjustified> can I force the removal of a package via dpkg without using apt-get ? apt-get* causes and endless loop of error bullshit on my damaged upgrade :-/
[04:13] <LjL> !kubuntu | WooD
[04:13] <ubotu> WooD: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org for support: #kubuntu ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <ndis> thakns!
[04:13] <tonyyserver> WooD: Graphical environment.  See screenshots on osdir
[04:13] <LjL> WooD: kde instead of gnome.
[04:13] <ndis> thanks gnomefreak  !
[04:13] <svizzero> anyone knows why on ubuntu 386 my dual core turion 64 x2 is shown as a single core processor?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:13] <Alakazamz0r> ISO out yet?
[04:13] <Alakazamz0r> !edgy
[04:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[04:13] <finalbeta> !games
[04:13] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[04:13] <thandavarayan> manudeb: make sure you have ntfs write support available...
[04:13] <jldugger_> svizzero, uname -a
[04:13] <h3htimo> LjL, it says installed: (none)
[04:13] <Sugarat> So where /should/ I have installed Listen player from ?
[04:13] <ripper> says error video_out(-vo) device or soemthing like that from what he's saying
[04:13] <kmaynard> svizzero: try the 686 kernel image
[04:13] <dcordes> !gps
[04:13] <cypher> is there a XGL channel where i can ask beryl questions?
[04:13] <ubotu> gps: Graphical Process Statistics using GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.0-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 116 kB, installed size 372 kB
[04:13] <svizzero> Linux eniac 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Fri Oct 13 18:41:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:13] <kmaynard> svizzero: the 386 image doesnt do SMP
[04:13] <manudeb> thandavarayan: where can i see that
[04:14] <manudeb> ?
[04:14] <dcordes> !GPS
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GPS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <LjL> h3htimo: well, i think you should try running update-manager as the instructions say. ask somebody else as well to make sure, though
[04:14] <thandavarayan> ripper: so you have choosen wrong -vo device
[04:14] <svizzero> kmaynard, isn't there a way to do it anyway?
[04:14] <ripper> ok how do i fix this?
[04:14] <dcordes> do i need any modules to use a gps device connected with usb?
[04:14] <kmaynard> svizzero: yes, using the 686 image
[04:14] <TIM90> how do i find out witch version of ubuntu i have ,i tryed sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:14] <jldugger_> svizzero, assuming your processor can handle 686 instructions, you want linux-generic
[04:14] <thandavarayan> manudeb: give a search like ntfs tools ...
[04:14] <kmaynard> svizzero: or compile your own kernel
[04:14] <h3htimo> LjL, how do i get to that?? lol ive never used it...
[04:14] <svizzero> kmaynard, uname -a gives me Linux eniac 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Fri Oct 13 18:41:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:14] <Garito> edgy has wpa supplicant integrated on the gnome network manager?
[04:14] <thandavarayan> ripper: look for mplayer -vo help
[04:15] <thandavarayan> ripper: may be mplayer -vo x11 can help
[04:15] <leftjustified> is there any way to rollback to dapper?
[04:15] <svizzero> kmaynard, isn't that the 686 image?
[04:15] <dcordes> anybody?
[04:15] <dcordes> gps
[04:15] <kmaynard> svizzero:  use the 686 image. i use it on my server, and t works
[04:15] <hypertevi> hi :)
[04:15] <leftjustified> rollback to dapper from recovery mode?
[04:15] <h3htimo> LjL, lol i cant load anything, crap, i gotta install all this stuff manually now
[04:15] <leftjustified> !rollback
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rollback - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <jldugger_> svizzero, -386 is the kernel of last resort that you get since the upgrade isn't sure. just apt-get the kernel package for -generic and it comes with SMP
[04:15] <LTjake> hi. is there a way to tell if you're successfully running under aixgl?
[04:15] <Mikaeln> Got some problem with ndiswrapper and 6.10... I get "fatal error" when I try to insert ndiswrapper with modprobe...
[04:16] <svizzero> ok thx all
[04:16] <LjL> h3htimo, just follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - but really, ask somebody else as well. i am *not* sure that running update-manager is the best idea, after a wrong dist-upgrade
[04:16] <svizzero> jldugger_, it says me: linux-generic is already the newest version.
[04:16] <B|nTaRa> !mp4
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <tipino> hi
[04:16] <thandavarayan> Mikaeln: fatal error on what
[04:16] <h3htimo> LjL, what do you mean a wrong dist-upgrade??
[04:16] <condorito> ermm, how can i fix my problem?
[04:16] <JosefK> hmm, forget the totem problem, I'll just use Kaffeine from KDE instead
[04:16] <leng> Look in the file .mplayer/gui.conf in your home directory
[04:17] <B|nTaRa> where can i find documentation about mp4 files on ubuntu ?
[04:17] <leng> "vo_driver = "whatever""
[04:17] <dcordes> hmmm i can't find useable info in thw wiki for my GPS usb device. can somebody help?
[04:17] <dcordes> please
[04:17] <Sugarat> Gnome media players suck. They all have so many dependencies and are so fussy about playing stuff back. WHy cant stuff just work
[04:17] <leng> try changing it to vo_driver = "xv"
[04:17] <svizzero> kmaynard, , it says me: linux-generic is already the newest version.
[04:17] <LjL> h3htimo: well, i simply mean that 1) i believe doing a dist-upgrade without having ubuntu-desktop installed is not good 2) update-manager is the supported option for upgrading, rather than apt-get    --   the reason i cannot help you much is that i have Edgy installed from scratch, so i haven't really updated
[04:17] <gnomefreak> LjL: it fixes the issues that come up. it installs -desktop package if missing it downgrades lib1-mesa-glx if you have compiz/xgl installed
[04:17] <thandavarayan> Sugarat: Since when you are using gnome... :-)
[04:17] <h3htimo> ljl thanks
[04:18] <B|nTaRa> !mplayer
[04:18] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[04:18] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[04:18] <LjL> gnomefreak: so you think it'll fix things after you've done an apt-get update without ubuntu-desktop installed?
[04:18] <Mikaeln> !ndiswrapper
[04:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:18] <B|nTaRa> !realtekaudio
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realtekaudio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <B|nTaRa> !realtek
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realtek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <gnomefreak> i know it will LjL i worked with mvo on it and have tested it 4 dozen times :(
[04:18] <gigiven> cannot open Magnet Link Azureus Download with firefox ........how can i fix my problem?
[04:18] <B|nTaRa> !atheros
[04:19] <Mikaeln> !bcm4318
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atheros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <h3htimo> LjL, actually, all i had to do was install a few things and its working now
[04:19] <gnomefreak> binarydigit: how about not fishing
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcm4318 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <gnomefreak> ack
[04:19] <maxflax> Got the nvidia installers installed this time.. got some errors about the X thou..
[04:19] <gnomefreak> B|nTaRa: dont fish
[04:19] <LjL> h3htimo: ok, well, also seeing gnomefreak's comment, i'd run the update-manager anyway
[04:19] <ianmacgregor> Mikaeln: You can /query ubotu and search in a diff tab :)
[04:19] <maxflax> where do I find the installer log for installin stuff like Nvida binaries
[04:19] <speedy> i've downloaded edgy eft CD how can i upgrade using the cd?
[04:19] <B|nTaRa> !wifi
[04:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:19] <gnomefreak> !upgrade > speedy
[04:20] <LjL> speedy: "sudo apt-cdrom add", and then follow the normal instructions
[04:20] <gnomefreak> speedy: please see your pm
[04:20] <leftjustified> !downgrade
[04:20] <Mikaeln> ianmacgregor:  :-)
[04:20] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[04:20] <leftjustified> shit
[04:20] <thandavarayan> speedy: you have to add this cd, and then apt-get update
[04:20] <LjL> !language | leftjustified
[04:20] <ubotu> leftjustified: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:20] <gnomefreak> leftjustified: watch you language please
[04:20] <leftjustified> sorry! whoops
[04:20] <Garito> !wpa_supplicant
[04:20] <thandavarayan> speedy: may apt-cdrom add helps you...
[04:20] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.5.4-5 (edgy), package size 227 kB, installed size 588 kB
[04:20] <h3htimo> LjL, alright i think its gonna be fine now, im at college and the internet is slow as hell so it took all yesterday to upgrade and now its taking forever to download a tiny file
[04:20] <speedy> booting from cd wont work?
[04:20] <maxflax> where do I find the installer log for installin stuff like Nvida binaries
[04:20] <leftjustified> LjL, gnomefreak: frustrated response, it won't happen again.
[04:20] <LjL> leftjustified: if you really want to downgrade, i think the really viable option is reinstalling, after backing up your /home
[04:20] <knewt> is it possible to get into the expert mode on the dvd installer?
[04:20] <gnomefreak> maxflax: /var/log
[04:20] <Garito> !wpa gnome manager
[04:20] <LjL> leftjustified: it's alright
[04:21] <mrmojo> hi guys
[04:21] <DaftDog> hey.. anyone in here using eclipse with subclipse and having problems?
[04:21] <kyaneos_> nvidia-glx: Depends: libglu1-mesa but it is not going to be installed or
[04:21] <kyaneos_>                        libglu1
[04:21] <mrmojo> i would like to switch my edgy system to use fiesty packages how do i do that
[04:21] <LjL> leftjustified: what issues do you have with Edgy anyway? perhaps they can be fixed
[04:21] <lekane> is it only me or ati drivers page is down?
[04:22] <mjelva> !pastebin
[04:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:22] <AnAnt> I get this error when I try to run a 3rd party software on Edgy:
[04:22] <AnAnt> I get this error when I try to run a 3rd party software on Edgy:
[04:22] <leftjustified> LjL: NV driver didn't upgrade (compiled for Xorg7.0), apt-get anything tells me to run apt-get -f install; apt-get -f install throws this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28664/
[04:22] <AnAnt> Error: Could not create FontSet for font '-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*'.
[04:22] <AnAnt> The following character sets cannot be drawn with this font:
[04:22] <nine_> anyone have a blacl screen after logo of ubuntu
[04:22] <gnomefreak> AnAnt: we dont support 3rd party apps
[04:22] <leftjustified> LjL: deleting the config file that conflicts makes no difference.
[04:22] <AnAnt> This software used to work in Dapper. I used xfontsel and I found that this font does exist there. So what's the problem ? How to fix it ?
[04:23] <nine_> anyone have a black screen after logo of ubuntu
[04:23] <mjelva> i'm trying to 'make modules'. running 2.6.17-10-386. does this make sense to anyone: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28666/ ?
[04:23] <nine_> in installation process
[04:23] <Mikaeln> Anyone who can help me with 6.10 and ndiswrapper??
[04:23] <TIM90> !sudo
[04:23] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:23] <LjL> leftjustified: ouch. tried "dpkg -r python-pythoncar"?
[04:23] <leftjustified> LjL: no, but I will now :)
[04:23] <TIM90> !dpkg
[04:23] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[04:23] <WooD> LjL:  thats all ? but why firefox 2 is not install ?
[04:24] <AnAnt> gnomefreak: I've been using it for years on linux
[04:24] <LjL> leftjustified: wait, there's something weird
[04:24] <sexie> hey guys :D
[04:24] <LjL> leftjustified: i see the package is really called python-pythoncard, but the error says "error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-pythoncar_0.8.1-7_all.deb (--unpack)"
[04:24] <TIM90> hey you
[04:24] <LjL> leftjustified: do you have any unofficial repositories enabled?
[04:24] <sexie> does anyone know whats the use of -wall switch with GCC
[04:24] <LjL> WooD: in what, kubuntu?
[04:24] <WooD> yes
[04:24] <maxflax> I got 4 warnings when installing the Nvidia binaries driver.. and I wonder if they will affect anything and what the reason I got those errors... check them at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28667/ thx :)
[04:24] <AnAnt> sexie: warning something like that
[04:24] <TIM90> !-wall
[04:24] <WooD> LjL: yes
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <leftjustified> LjL: that's a typo by me -- I had to re-type the error as the b0rked machine is only running in recovery mode and I'm not real good with command line -- I'm typing this from my laptop
[04:25] <sexie> hmm. can ya tell me in some more detail :D
[04:25] <WooD> !-firefox
[04:25] <ubotu> firefox aliases: firefox1.5, ff - added by Seveas on 2006-06-19 13:48:13
[04:25] <chplanet_> ubotu: have you already installed a raid card for raid 1 using Ubuntu Dapper or Edgy?
[04:25] <crimsun> Sublimal-: you should make your ``amixer'' available somewhere
[04:25] <LjL> leftjustified: ah, ok
[04:25] <sexie> does it show detailed warnings ?
[04:25] <AnAnt> sexie: sets all warning options on I think
[04:25] <AnAnt> sexie: somehting like that
[04:25] <sexie> hm thanks :)
[04:26] <kelalaka> trk varm burda
[04:26] <speedy> can i upgrade from desktop cd? or i have to use alternate cd ?
[04:26] <kelalaka> o kadar destekleyen var
[04:26] <kelalaka> kanalda bi tane trk yoksa
[04:26] <kelalaka> kapatn kanal
[04:26] <WooD> LjL: someone told me that firefox 2 was installed with ubuntu 6.10 but it does not seems to be install with kubuntu 6.10
[04:26] <sexie> oh! -Wall = -W-all :D
[04:26] <maxflax> crimsun, did u find anything out about the snd-hda-intel sound module and why the 1.0.13 didn't work with those and edgy?
[04:26] <maxflax> I got 4 warnings when installing the Nvidia binaries driver.. and I wonder if they will affect anything and what the reason I got those errors... check them at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28667/ thx :)
[04:26] <lekane> i have it with 6.10
[04:27] <LjL> WooD: indeed, Kubuntu comes with KDE, which has Konqueror as a web browser
[04:27] <jonah1980_2> hi can anyone help me out please? my GL desktop was working great but now i have no border or minimize/maximise buttons on my windows...
[04:27] <LjL> WooD: type "sudo apt-get install firefox" if you want firefox
[04:27] <crimsun> maxflax: that's much to vague to be useful
[04:27] <dcordes> !gps
[04:27] <kelalaka> bi soru cevap veren yokmu karde
[04:27] <crimsun> too, even
[04:27] <cyphase> in the default Beryl theme, what do the 2 buttons on the left of the title bar do?
[04:27] <ubotu> gps: Graphical Process Statistics using GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.0-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 116 kB, installed size 372 kB
[04:27] <nine_> anyone have a black screen after logo of ubuntu in instalation of edgy ?
[04:27] <WooD> LjL: ok thanks but do you know if it is gonna be the new version 2 ?
[04:27] <cyphase> "Set Above" and "Stick Window"
[04:27] <LjL> WooD: if you have Edgy, yes it will
[04:27] <WooD> LjL: thanks
[04:28] <WooD> LjL: thanks again
[04:28] <factorx> Hi. Does Ubuntu work with my Apple wireless keyboard out-of-the-box?
[04:29] <B|nTaRa> !madwifi
[04:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:29] <leftjustified> LjL: -r pythoncard, pythoncard-tools and python-pythoncard combined seems to have removed the apt-get problem; now I just need to get properly compiled NV driver. THankyou! :)
[04:29] <dcordes> What does this line here say: gpsd: Subframe 4 SVID is 52 ?
[04:29] <Daverocks> factorx: try the live CD and see if it works with that
[04:29] <sproingie> factorx: the regular keys should work.  not sure about the apple keys
[04:29] <susscorfa> factorx: you can test by booting form a live cd
[04:30] <B|nTaRa> is there a liveCD for 6.10 ?
[04:30] <sproingie> factorx: i suspect that since ppc is supported, that the apple keyboard will just work.  try the livecd tho
[04:30] <ianmacgregor> B|nTaRa: Yes, the Desktop cd is a livecd
[04:30] <ubuntu_> hi
[04:30] <factorx> sproingie, it's a bluetooth keyboard, that's the point.
[04:30] <maxflax> crimsun, ok! well I got my system to hang after insalling the 1.0.13 alsa-drivers.. got as far so I could se the background of the gdm.. and that the sound was looping on one tone.. got the machine to boot by adding in the alsa-base option snd-hda-intel enabled=false.. or something..
[04:30] <B|nTaRa> ianmacgregor : thanks
[04:31] <UKMatt> since Firefox has been updated, does anyone know if Swiftfox is going to be?
[04:31] <siegie> is there a way to recover files on a reiserfs filesystem i accidentally delete a file
[04:31] <factorx> But I'll try it with a Live CD
[04:31] <crimsun> maxflax: 1.0.13 is probably too old; you should try alsa-driver hg
[04:31] <sproingie> siegie: nope, especially not reiserfs
[04:32] <maxflax> crimsun, to old.. thought that was the latest version! im running 1.0.11 now.. the one that companies edgy
[04:32] <crimsun> maxflax: and how is Edgy's working? (It should be identical to Dapper's)
[04:32] <jadams> can someone paste an edgy apt/sources.list somewhere for me?
[04:32] <sproingie> !sources
[04:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:32] <jadams> I had a highly modified one, and it's kind of scary since I threw sed at it
[04:32] <sproingie> !easysource
[04:32] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:32] <jadams> thanks!
[04:33] <jadams> sproingie: no edgy sources.list though...guess I can regenerate dapper and then sed it
[04:34] <maxflax> crimsun , where do I obtain the alsa-driver hg? .. The sound in edgy is the same as in dapper. but they are using the same alsa-drivers so far as I know. or am I wrong?
[04:34] <pero_> 1032 fiuu
[04:34] <crimsun> maxflax: they are using the same version but are missing patches present in 1.0.13 and in hg
[04:34] <nagoff> how do you tell what updates were run recently?
[04:34] <crimsun> maxflax: see the download page on alsa-project.org
[04:35] <maxflax> I got 4 warnings when installing the Nvidia binaries driver.. and I wonder if they will affect anything and what the reason I got those errors... check them at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28667/ thx :)
[04:35] <maxflax> crimsun, ok! will do so
[04:35] <nagoff> I upgraded some packages lastnight without reading carefully and it hosed my grub :(
[04:36] <eXistenZ> In wht file do I find the startup programs of gdm? (in gnome, preferences -> startup sessions)
[04:36] <eXistenZ> s/wht/what
[04:36] <ghost> how can i have this blue scollbar: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/961/snappingongh2.png
[04:37] <eXistenZ> Anyone?
[04:37] <user-land> there seems to be a bug in edgy showing when you doubleclick a file in gnome it does not open (amarok, bittorrent, etc).
[04:38] <reiki> ok I am booted to my second hard drive with a completely updated Dapper install. My main hard drive is not even mounted. I should be able to test an edgy upgrade on this machine now without worrying about bombing my main hard drive.... yes? :)
[04:38] <maxflax> crimsun, installing the newer alsa-utilities and tools wont screw anything up? those might even be on some respitory list. so I don't have to compile them?
[04:38] <nbx909|linux> you guys see this? http://digg.com/linux_unix/No_more_free_CDs_of_the_latest_release_from_Ubuntu
[04:39] <LjL> !shipit | nbx909|linux
[04:39] <ubotu> nbx909|linux: shipit is is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org  -  Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a Long Term Support release.
[04:39] <unixslut> yo
[04:39] <nbx909|linux> apperently
[04:39] <nbx909|linux> lol
[04:39] <blc`> Hello
[04:39] <nbx909|linux> that's a stupid idea
[04:39] <leafw> and has anyone on a powerbook managed to map the command keys to Control ? Works well under KDE, fails under gnome (which ignores my .xmodmap)
[04:39] <nbx909|linux> i know people that started with ubuntu just because of the free cd
[04:39] <LjL> nbx909|linux: perhaps, but discussing it is offtopic here... you can take it to #ubuntu-offtopic though - this is just a support channel
[04:40] <nbx909|linux> oh sorry LjL i forgot ><
[04:40] <jorgg-> wont my old files be laying around unused if I install Edgy Eft with distupgrade from dapper?
[04:41] <shadowman> hi. was wondering if someone can help
[04:41] <leafw> jorgg- : there is a lot of stuff at /var/lib that is never deleted, but the rest of packages will be replaced. I have just dist-upgraded to edgy ( a lenghty process, had to do dist-upgrade like 10 times, and fix some packages manually actually)
[04:41] <lekane> jorgg-: i dont know i had to reconfigure few things to get my dri back
[04:41] <maxflax> I got 4 warnings when installing the Nvidia binaries driver.. and I wonder if they will affect anything and what the reason I got those errors... check them at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28667/ thx :)
[04:41] <Elko> from 'EdgyUpgrades': "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" - why is there a dist-upgrade twice? - oh and btw, the 'gksu "update-manager -c"' command doesn't work at all, failed to get packages.. is this a known problem with a workaround?
[04:41] <ghost> how can i have this in edgy: blue scollbar: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/961/snappingongh2.png
[04:41] <jorgg-> hm. is it many manualthings to do?
[04:42] <blc`> I'll find out
[04:42] <user-land> where do i specify that a user gets logged in automatically at startup ?
[04:42] <shadowman> i am trying to install WINE on 64 bit version
[04:42] <Acke_ubu> hey guys, i have a thinkpad with one ntfs partition. 80 gb. can i resize the ntfs partition somehow to enable partitions for linux?
[04:42] <reiki> if testing the cdromupgrade method, will this automatically look to edgy repos or would I need to edit repos before starting the upgrade?
[04:43] <Daverocks> Acke_ubu: yes
[04:43] <leftjustified> someone else here was asking before about getting a stalled black screen after the ubuntu loading screen (animated load screen) -- I'm getting that with the nvidia driver; any known solutions? (no errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[04:43] <Daverocks> Acke_ubu: i don't know if the ubuntu installer does it itself... not familiar with the ubuntu installer :P
[04:43] <lekane> Acke_ubu: yes
[04:43] <lekane> me neither, try to make the partitions before maybe
[04:43] <eXistenZ> anyone help me please? :/
[04:43] <maxflax> user-land, System-administration-loginwindow
[04:44] <Acke_ubu> Daverocks, lekane thanks. how? ubuntu installer?
[04:44] <lekane> i used partition magic myself, but from windows, and it is not free
[04:45] <Daverocks> Acke_ubu: i used the gparted live CD, it's free and it works well
[04:45] <eXistenZ>  lekane, I have a simple question here. In what file do I find the gdm startup sessions?
[04:45] <lekane> but there must be some free way to do it for sure, maybe from XP istself
[04:45] <leftjustified> if I'm not getting any errors in Xorg log but X is freezing on black after load screen, what other log file can I investigate?
[04:45] <lekane> eXistenZ: i dunno
[04:45] <Daverocks> lekane: the gparted live CD is very good, and free :)
[04:45] <shadowman> can someone tell me how i can fix this error "E: Type 'http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt' is not known on line 33 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:45] <shadowman> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[04:45] <shadowman> "
[04:45] <eXistenZ> I'm stuck in the recovery mode here after installing berly
[04:45] <maxflax> I liked the #ubuntu+1 better.. people there answered questions
[04:45] <lekane> there you go Acke_ubu :p
[04:45] <user-land> ah, right, maxflax, thank you :-)
[04:45] <FRET> hey all
[04:46] <Acke_ubu> Daverocks, i jsut burned and tried it. didnt boot on the thinkpad!!!
[04:46] <slytherin> shadowman: paste your sources.list to pastebin
[04:46] <maxflax> user-land, your welcome
[04:46] <Daverocks> Acke_ubu: checked your boot order in the BIOS?
[04:46] <Acke_ubu> lekane, yeah i jsut posted my reply
[04:46] <lekane> eXistenZ: perhaps /etc/gdm or /etc/gdm.conf
[04:46] <Acke_ubu> Daverocks, it booted to the cd. then stopped. nothing happend!
[04:46] <poopybutt> is 2.0 not included in 6.10?
[04:46] <poopybutt> for ff
[04:46] <skubeedooo> i'm trying to set up a shared directory of photos, so everyone on the system can access them.  i create a directory /photos and symlink /home/user/Photos to it.  the problem is that when new photos are created, they have the wrong permissions and groupname.  is there a way to set a program to automatically save with a different set of default permissions?
[04:47] <atinos> hello
[04:47] <Acke_ubu> Daverocks, ill try it again.. bootorder. ctrl+f12 to get to bios menu?
[04:47] <Acke_ubu> f12 only maybe
[04:47] <Daverocks> Acke_ubu: depends on your BIOS, but you say it did try to boot from CD, that's weird
[04:47] <deonla> hello guys. where can i get a good xgl how to
[04:47] <lekane> Acke_ubu:  depends
[04:48] <user-land> funny, mark shuttleworth helped program that preferences application :-)
[04:48] <lekane> yeah if it booted the cd there' s something wrong
[04:48] <Acke_ubu> Daverocks, yes gparted livecd vs 3.1.1
[04:48] <Acke_ubu> 0.3.1.1
[04:48] <Acke_ubu> even
[04:48] <atinos> I have upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, the only problem so far is the booting splash screen has dissappeared.  How could I fix this?
[04:48] <Acke_ubu> well ill be back..
[04:48] <SpComb> skubeedooo: firstly, creating new dirs in / isn't a good idea, you usually want to keep it clean and strictly defined. And what are the wrong permissions and groupname?
[04:48] <dcordes> how can i test my gps device?
[04:49] <lekane> drive :p
[04:49] <SpComb> skubeedooo: if you want to share them, I'd setup a dir called, perhaps, /home/photos, and put a dir in *there* called 'user' and then symlink /home/user/photos to that dir
[04:50] <crimsun> maxflax: you're only interested in -driver
[04:50] <ghost> how can i have this in edgy: blue scollbar: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/961/snappingongh2.png
[04:50] <SpComb> hmm, actually, that wasn't that useful...
[04:51] <JosefK> ghost: that looks like an older version of clearlooks, it's probably at http://art.gnome.org/
[04:51] <jrib> ghost: I have a theme called "black" that has that scrollbar, that might be a good starting point as well.  Got it form gnome-look.org I think
[04:51] <ghost> JosefK: older? what does the newest look like?
[04:51] <JosefK> ghost: you can drag the .tar.bz2 or .tar.gz files straight onto the theme configuration dialog of Gnome and it'll install them for you
[04:51] <skubeedooo> SpComb: lets say i have two users alice and bob with the normal home directories.  they are both members of the group "photos", however this is not their primary group, for obvious security reasons.  however, i want all files created by f-spot (but not other programs) to have g+rw permissions and for the group to be photos.  Is there some way of doing this?
[04:51] <JosefK> ghost: almost the same, without the blue scrollbar :)
[04:52] <gus> anyone knows how to upgrade from dapper to edgy with the edgy cd ?
[04:52] <reiki> better to use teh /cdrom/cdromupgrade method or apt-get using apt-cdrom add method?
[04:52] <panos> halo! Does anyone face problems with slow edgy repos? I download with max 10kb/sec
[04:52] <pazemlsqdfmoj> is there still an "easier" version of synaptic? (the one that lists programs as a whole)
[04:52] <ghost> if anyone know which theme this is (window borders!), please tell me: http://screens.myeburg.net/new_clearlook.png
[04:52] <lekane> panos i guess everyone is downloading hehe
[04:52] <JosefK> panos: give it a few days, the repos are being hammered right now
[04:52] <mrson> hola
[04:52] <alek> does anyone know where can I find sth about installing and configuring subversion?
[04:52] <lekane> i took it right at the outing and it was fine :p
[04:52] <JosefK> alek: aptitude install subversion
[04:53] <mrson> como entro a ubuntu-es
[04:53] <panos> I thought that this would be the reason....
[04:53] <mrson> \join ubuntu-es
[04:53] <maxflax> crimsun, well Im intressted in getting my digital-output from my soundcard to be detected.. but when Im already at it I might aswell install the latest utilities aswell .. but the drivers are the main intrest here I would presume, while those might get my digital output to work!
[04:53] <gus>  mrson /join #ubuntu-es
[04:53] <pazemlsqdfmoj> anyone?
[04:53] <alek> i have my own install of apache and I want to use it with subversion
[04:53] <mrson> gracias
[04:53] <crimsun> maxflax: the utilities don't affect that.
[04:54] <JosefK> pazemlsqdfmoj: gnome-app-install
[04:54] <user-land> mrson: '/join #ubuntu-es
[04:54] <user-land> mrson: '/join #ubuntu-es'
[04:54] <SpComb> skubeedooo: I'm not entirely sure, but I think that there's a setgid bit in unix file permissions
[04:55] <pazemlsqdfmoj> JosefK: theres no link in the system->admin anymore?
[04:55] <SpComb> I've never used it and I'm not sure if there are any bad secruity implications or anything, but it looks like it could be a solution
[04:55] <JosefK> skubeedooo: you need to set the sticky bit, 'chmod -R a+s *path*'
[04:56] <JosefK> pazemlsqdfmoj: it should be at the bottom of your applications menu, "Add/Remove..." - unless you've told it to always open the advanced view?
[04:56] <SpComb> ah right
[04:56] <SpComb> "Directories with the setgid permission will force all files and sub-directories created in them to be owned by the directory group and not the group of the user creating the file. The setgid flag is inherited by newly created subdirectories."
[04:56] <SpComb> that looks like what you want
[04:57] <Sublimal-> crimsun: okej, i check that out!
[04:57] <thor> is there a howto for upgrading to edgy using the alternate cd?
[04:57] <slytherin> thor: Why do you need howto for that? It's a three step process.
[04:57] <thor> OK...wasn't sure if it could even be done (upgrading offline)
[04:58] <slytherin> thor: 'sudo apt-cdrom add', 'sudo apt-get update', 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[04:58] <slinky_> is it safe to use things other then good, like bad and/or ugly?
[04:59] <thor> seems easy enough....thanks...will give it a go
[04:59] <slytherin> slinky_: Yes.
[04:59] <leftjustified> xserver-xorg-video-nv in edgy the replacement for xserver-xorg-driver-nv in dapper? their descriptions are almost identical and -driver- doesn't appear in edgy, nor -video- in dapper
[04:59] <slinky_> is it a generally accepted pratice
[05:00] <gus> slytherin, can u do the same with desktop cd ?
[05:00] <nine_> anyone have a black screen after logo of ubuntu in instalation of edgy ?
[05:00] <slytherin> leftjustified: Yes, package names have been changed in edgy.
[05:00] <atinos> how can I fix the extrange splash screen I've got in Edgy Eft?
[05:00] <slytherin> gus: Nope.
[05:00] <gus> damn
[05:00] <gus> slytherin, why ?
[05:00] <gus> :P
[05:00] <maxflax> crimsun, Im having difficulties finding the alsa-base hq you were speaking of. I can only find the alsa-base 1.0.13
[05:01] <leftjustified> slytherin: thanks for the confirmation
[05:01] <slytherin> slinky_: Ugly are actually quite mature plugins having licensing/patent problems. Bad are somewhat amature plugins.
[05:01] <slinky_> ok, thank you for the info
[05:02] <slinky_> Is edgy a new upgrade to Dapper
[05:02] <slytherin> gus: I believe it is the layout of the CD that is different. Anyway, I have never tried desktop CD. And last time I did a clean install was with Hoary. I have been only doing upgrades since then.
[05:02] <SpComb> skubeedooo: you probably want to set both the sticky bit and the setgid bit (setuid for dir = setgid). Look at the wikipedia pages for "Sticky bit" and "Setuid"
[05:02] <slytherin> slinky_: No. If you want advantage of LTS then stick to Dapper. There was even a point release of Dapper.
[05:02] <Avdi> has anyone had issues with x11-common while upgrading to Edgy?
[05:03] <gus> slytherin, anyhow i can put the packages on the desktop cd on my approx ?
[05:03] <slinky_> i have the point release, thank you again
[05:03] <mick22> hey can somebody help me out pls... network-manager-gnome is giving me an error and not loading under edgy
[05:03] <slytherin> slinky_: Edgy has 18 months support only as other releases except Dapper. But it has newer versions of many things. It is your choice.
[05:03] <omar> Hello everybody, I have a partition and I would like to mount it automaticly, I am using this to mount it manually "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda4 /media/hd4"   I am already in "/etc/fstab" and I tried with "/dev/hda4       /media/hda4     vfat    rw              0       0" but it's not working, did I write something wrong????
[05:03] <mjelva> !pastebin
[05:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:03] <liwi> !mp3
[05:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:04] <ThinkingMan> So hey, edgy eft is great
[05:04] <slytherin> gus: You should be able to manually copy all packages to /var/cache/apt/archives. This will save you download over internet.
[05:04] <skubeedooo> SpComb: yes, thanks for that.  One other problem though, whilst the group is correct, the files created are not group writable.  i tried to change the umask in the terminal before launching f-spot (from the terminal), but that didn't seem to work
[05:04] <reiki> ok... sudo apt-cdrom add does not work. It looks like I will have to add teh cdrom into apt/sources.list
[05:04] <FRET> omar, what is the error message?
[05:04] <slinky_> i'll stay with Dapper for awhile, i'm new to Linux but been doing puters since 1964, what is the best program development package to use in Dapper
[05:04] <ThinkingMan> however...
[05:04] <rc-1>  umm just out of curiosity, im writing a game, and it requires stuff such as ruby, imagemagick, rmagick, gtk, rubygtk and will i be able to make a windows installer for it?
[05:04] <mick22> anybody else got network-manager-gnome working under edgy??
[05:04] <rc-1>  id rather not have to make users install all that themselves
[05:04] <ThinkingMan> anyone know why eft would've disable the ability to scroll using the right side of my trackpad, and how to re-enable it?
[05:04] <gus> slytherin, ok ill try
[05:05] <SpComb> skubeedooo: what did you change the umask to?
[05:05] <skubeedooo> 0
[05:05] <mjelva> i'm trying to install lirc support on my edgy installation. it fails. can anyone make sense of this log? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28673/
[05:05] <slytherin> slinky_: It depends on what you want to develop.
[05:05] <skubeedooo> SpComb: 0
[05:05] <slinky_> desptop applications and games
[05:05] <slinky_> oops desktop
[05:06] <omar> FRET there is not error, but I doesn't get mount when I start my linux
[05:06] <[H] 3b0R> anyone got any issues with conky?
[05:06] <sly> hi everybody
[05:07] <mick22> lol conky... or do u mean edgy?
[05:07] <slytherin> slinky_: If you want to develop for GNOME, take a look at 'glade' and interface designer and you may want to use anjuta as project/source management and IDE.
[05:07] <liwi> how to install mp3support without adding new repos?
[05:07] <slank> Hello all. I've got a little network issue in 6.10. I've installed into VMware Server and duplicated the HD to another VM, and now eth0 won't come up.
[05:07] <[H] 3b0R> mick22: conky on edgy
[05:07] <mjelva> i'm trying to install lirc support on my edgy installation. it fails. can anyone make sense of this log? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28673/
[05:07] <osfameron> what happens if I break the Edgy upgrade?
[05:07] <osfameron> it appears to be taking a longer time than I expected, and I might have to go home at some point :-)
[05:08] <SpComb> skubeedooo: hmm... perhaps try 0002?
[05:08] <slytherin> osfameron: How do you plan to break it?
[05:08] <mick22> H3b0r oh right i thought you were just being funny ;)
[05:08] <FRET> omar, add "automount" to the options
[05:08] <segfault_> anyone seen this issue, after upgrade to edgy ubuntu-desktop cant be installed because it depends on xorg
[05:08] <Master_> If I upgrade from an AMD Athlon 32 bit to a... 64 bit AMD- will ubuntu work from the get go?
[05:08] <slytherin> osfameron: Is it in downloading stage yet?
[05:08] <osfameron> slytherin: er, probably by setting the computer to suspent, and then later on waking up without a network connection
[05:08] <osfameron> slytherin: yarr, it's on file 932 of 1210
[05:08] <osfameron> but apparently it will be another 3 hours, and really, I'd like to go home in 1
[05:08] <slinky_> slytherin: is there any way to run Diablo II under Dapper?
[05:08] <slytherin> osfameron: If it is in downloading stage then vreak won't do any harm.
[05:09] <osfameron> slytherin: ok.  will it start where it left off next time I run the upgrade tool?
[05:09] <mjelva> i'm trying to install lirc support on my edgy installation. it fails. can anyone make sense of this log? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28673/
[05:09] <slytherin> slinky_: wine may be able to do it. You will have to check application sdatabase on wine website.
[05:09] <slytherin> osfameron: Yes
[05:09] <skubeedooo> SpComb: cool, it's working now.  i must have misstyped something
[05:09] <osfameron> slytherin: cool, thanks
[05:09] <sly> anyone know if it is possible to install a deb from a url with apt-get whithout modify the souces.list ?t
[05:10] <slinky_> thank you slytherin, have a nice day, appreciate your help
[05:10] <omar> FRET thanks I am gonna restart, can I ask you something more? I want all the priviledges, permissions in that disk what to do?
[05:10] <thee> sly: wget the url. then dpkg
[05:10] <sly> raaah thanks
[05:10] <vwirem> How can I find the configure flags that were used to compile an ubuntu package?
[05:10] <slytherin> mjelva: I was about to reply you. Why are you trying to compile? lirc should be there by default. You should rather be looking into howtos of how to enable it for one particular application or hardware
[05:10] <bird> join #ubuntu-cn
[05:10] <slank> what's it mean when you're bringing up networking and you see: SIOCSIFADDR: no such device?
[05:11] <sly> do you know a good website to learn bash syntax in general and for apt-get system too please ?
[05:11] <slytherin> sly: Download the deb and install it with 'sudo dpkg -I filename.deb' provided all dependencies are already satisfies.
[05:11] <segfault_> sly, download the deb then run sudo dpkg -i somefile.deb
[05:11] <mjelva> slytherin: i've been looking at howtos for the past two days. i've installed lirc and lirc-modules-source from the repository. when i try to auto-install lirc-modules-source with module-assistant, it fails
[05:11] <FRET> omar, read the mount-manpage. you can set the uid/gid for that partition when mounting it
[05:11] <thee> sly: linux.org/lessons
[05:11] <sly> alright tahanks everyone :) great
[05:11] <FRET> omar, for example uid=500 if that's your uid
[05:12] <mjelva> when i try to compile lirc-modules-source manually, it fails. and when i try to compile it from manually downloaded source, it also fails
[05:12] <mjelva> any idea what to do, slytherin?
[05:12] <jrib> ubotu: tell sly about apt
[05:12] <jrib> ubotu: tell sly about cli
[05:12] <dabaR__> mjelva: show the error on pastebin
[05:12] <mjelva> dabaR__: error from m-a a-i? k.
[05:12] <slytherin> mjelva: I have never used lirc, buit can you tell me what you want to do with lirc? Is it some tv tuner card which can be controlled using remote?
[05:13] <thee> !apt | sly
[05:13] <ubotu> sly: apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:13] <mjelva> slytherin: mythtv. i've got a silverstone case with an ir receiver.
[05:13] <dabaR__> mjelva: the error you get when trying to compile.
[05:13] <mjelva> (which came with a remote)
[05:13] <FunnyLookinHat> !upgrade
[05:13] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[05:13] <UNDERsoN> Hi guyz Who now how to swich off auto shuting down ewery 10 minites monitor.
[05:13] <mjelva> dabaR__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28673/
[05:13] <liwi> how to add mp3support withous changing repos?
[05:14] <segfault_> !mp3 | liwi
[05:14] <ubotu> liwi: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:14] <thee> UNDERsoN: System->Preference->Power Management
[05:14] <DPackrat> Where can I go to report a typo in Ubuntu's menus?
[05:14] <slytherin> mjelva: That is what I was talking about. You should be asking/searching 'how to make silverstone card work with lirc'. And sorry I don't know answer
[05:14] <BlueEagle> liwi: That would imply manually installing the codecs and that would probably be much harder than adding the repository in question me thinks.
[05:14] <sly> you rulez men :) thanks I run to complete my beginer syntax knowing
[05:15] <UNDERsoN> thee Not work
[05:15] <slytherin> DPackrat: which menu entry?
[05:15] <bird> join #ubuntu-cn
[05:15] <mjelva> slytherin: i don't see how the card even factors into it yet. i can't compile lirc, much less make it work with the receiver.
[05:15] <mjelva> first things first
[05:15] <dabaR__> mjelva: and you have the linux headers installed?
[05:15] <bird> i can't find it
[05:15] <DPackrat> slytherin: If I go to change my desktop, centered is spelled centred
[05:15] <DPackrat> desktop background that is
[05:16] <slytherin> mjelva: Why you insist on compiling. The lirc support should be there by default.
[05:16] <dabaR__> bird: /j #ubuntu-cn
[05:16] <UNDERsoN> Whow make player like in windows - no swiching off when whatching video?
[05:16] <gleesond> I hosed my box trying to upgrade to edgy. is there a walkthrough to fix nautilus?
[05:16] <mjelva> dabaR__: linux headers, linux source. got both. /usr/src/linux links to the source.
[05:16] <josePhoenix> hi all
[05:17] <name> where's "import" for making screenies
[05:17] <mjelva> slytherin: i couldn't make it work. are you saying all i need is the lirc package, and nothing else?
[05:17] <bird> 3Q dabaR :)
[05:17] <thee> UNDERsoN: try this. in terminal type gconf-editor.
[05:17] <slytherin> DPackrat: It is not type. I guess it is correct in British English (or American English, not sure).
[05:17] <josePhoenix> I just installed edgy from cd onto my notebook and it worked pretty well. Then I went to a page in firefox that required flash, so I used the mozilla plugin installer. Now if I go to a page containing flash elements, firefox crashes.
[05:17] <josePhoenix> I tried uninstalling and reinstalling firefox with synaptic, but no changes
[05:17] <UNDERsoN> thee So register editor startet
[05:18] <dabaR__> UNDERsoN: man xset look at the dpms features/
[05:18] <DPackrat> slytherin: could be, I've just never seen it spelled that way
[05:18] <thee> UNDERsoN: apps->gnome-power-manger.change ac_sleep_display to anything to you like in seconds.
[05:18] <dabaR__> josePhoenix: did you try removing the flash package?
[05:18] <josePhoenix> dabaR_, it wasn't listed as installed in synaptic
[05:18] <slytherin> mjelva: Yes. Probably you need to insert some modules in kernel. If I can find some help I will tell you.
[05:18] <dabaR__> josePhoenix: how did you install it?
[05:19] <mjelva> slytherin: inserting the modules is what i've been trying to do. those are the ones i'm trying to compile.
[05:19] <nickedwa11111> hi all
[05:19] <josePhoenix> dabaR_, through the mozilla plugin installer
[05:19] <sateh> howdy
[05:19] <UNDERsoN> dabaR_ And on English ))
[05:19] <sateh> i'm trying to debootstrap edgy but I keep getting: W: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz was corrupt
[05:19] <UNDERsoN> thee Thank you
[05:19] <sateh> has anyone seen that before? it doesn't matter when i change the archive to a different one
[05:19] <dawn_> Hello everyone
[05:20] <vlt> Hello. I have 2 machines running Ubuntu Dapper 6.06. When I connect my HP USB scanner `lsusb` and `sane-find-scanner` list it. After installing the latest hplip-1.6.10 `scanimge [-L] ` shows the device and starts scanning but onyl on one of the machines. On the second after 3m10s "No scanners were found" is shown.
[05:20] <vlt>  What could I check here first?
[05:20] <josePhoenix> dabaR_, ah nevermind. I think I can fix it. The plugin installed to my ~/.mozilla folder
[05:20] <gleesond> to upgrade to edgy all I was supposed to do was change my sources.list to have edgy instead of dapper. but now nautilus doesnt open
[05:20] <UNDERsoN> dabaR_ I understand a litle
[05:20] <slytherin> mjelva: What I am saying is lirc modules should be there by default. You are approaching problem in wrong way
[05:20] <dabaR__> sateh: you can not aptitude update?
[05:20] <vlt> On both machines libsane's and sane-utils's version is 1.0.17, kernel is 2.6.15.
[05:20] <Pych0n> hello
[05:20] <leftjustified> I'm getting total lockup after animated load screen with both nv and nvidia drivers. Neither leave any errors in the Xorg log file... is there anything I can do or am I going to have to wipe this box and go back to dapper?
[05:20] <sateh> dabaR, i'm actually creating an install image containing edgy
[05:20] <Pych0n> I got a question about VLAN and ubuntu 6.06.1 as server
[05:20] <Pych0n> why the startup of the networking is so slow
[05:21] <leftjustified> card is Geforce 6600, incase that matters (listed as supported by both drivers)
[05:21] <dawn_> I am having serious problems getting my WPC11 wireless card to work on a newly installed ubuntu. It was recognized and functioned during the install but after booting off the new OS, it wont' work. i have blacklisted the orinoco driver to force it to use hostap_cs and now i have a wifi0 interface but no wlan0
[05:21] <Pych0n> i mean 5 min or more getting the interfaces to work
[05:21] <dawn_> this has been incredibly frustrating, so any help is appreciated
[05:21] <MarcN> vit: did you wait a few seconds for the usb bus to settle before looking for the device?  (just guessing)
[05:21] <Pych0n> slytherin: can u help me ?
[05:22] <BrightEyes`> how can i configure sendmail using webmin? any tips?
[05:22] <slytherin> Pych0n: regarding what? I was busy on phone.
[05:22] <mjelva> slytherin: oh. so i just need to insert them? know how?
[05:22] <UNDERsoN> dabaR Don't you now how to disable auto shuting down monitor power only when wathcing TV
[05:22] <dawn_> the driver is failing to load now, stating that the initialization failed
[05:22] <Pych0n> About networking and VLANs
[05:22] <InnerF|RE> is it my repositories, or has edgy not had any updates in a couple of days?
[05:22] <dabaR__> UNDERsoN: did you try what thee said?
[05:22] <Pych0n> why the startup of networking is so slow
[05:22] <Pych0n> it finish the configuration
[05:22] <xIPISH> DO ubntu have aigxgl
[05:22] <Pych0n> but takes so much time
[05:23] <knewt> is it possible to get into the expert mode on the dvd installer?
[05:23] <kitche> XIPISH: yes it does
[05:23] <tonyyserver> xIPISH: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:23] <xIPISH> kitche i downloaded iso cd
[05:23] <xIPISH> idont want xgl
[05:23] <xIPISH> aigxg
[05:23] <slytherin> mjelva: 'sudo modprobe modulename' is the command for inserting module.
[05:24] <slytherin> Pych0n: no idea.
[05:24] <kitche> xIPISH: the edgy cd? sicne I believe that xorg is built with aiglx by default on it
[05:24] <mjelva> slytherin: yea. but where would these modules be?
[05:24] <Pych0n> Ok Thanx
[05:24] <UNDERsoN> dabaR_ As i Understand It help to turn off auto shting every time but I wanna only when video
[05:25] <jcooke> is there a particular file I can view to see errors that happened at boot time
[05:25] <dabaR__> UNDERsoN: I dont know how to do it.
[05:26] <josePhoenix> dabaR_, well, I tried with flash9beta and the same problem is there...
[05:26] <BrightEyes`> how can i configure sendmail using webmin? any tips?
[05:26] <dawn_> jcooke: type "dmesg"
[05:26] <TimsonC2000> hi ... i have installed kubuntu on my laptop ... now the resolution is 640x480 and i don't know why ....graphikcard is a intel 82845g and in xorg.conf i can't found an error ... have anybody an idea?
[05:26] <jcooke> dawn_, thanks, was trying to remember that one
[05:26] <FlimFlamMan> apt is having big-time problems with my courier-authlib package
[05:27] <FlimFlamMan> can't remove it
[05:27] <slytherin> mjelva: /lib/modules/yourkernelversion
[05:27] <kitche> TimsonC2000: xorg.conf is to configure your resolution and such it won't show errors
[05:28] <pazemlsqdfmoj> how to install lamp on ubuntu?
[05:28] <eracc> jcooke, also see /var/log/dmesg
[05:28] <slytherin> TimsonC2000: Install package 915resolution and read docs
[05:28] <chuckyp> !lamp > pazemlsqdfmoj
[05:29] <dawn_> anyone know anything about wpc11 cards on ubuntu? i'm all out of ideas and it's still not working
[05:29] <mjelva> slytherin: there's only one lirc module in there, and it's not the one for my card. sure i don't have to compile lirc-modules-source?
[05:29] <Iolan> czesc wszystkim ;] 
[05:29] <dawn_> i have wifi0 but no wlan0 after forcing the hostap to load instead of orinoco.. but hostap stillf ails to load
[05:29] <entereczek> ive got a problem with direct rendering after update to edgy
[05:30] <slytherin> mjelva: Just wait five minutes
[05:30] <ufk> is there a tutorial for /etc/network/interfaces? i know how to start my wireless connection manually, i don't know how to insert it in there
[05:30] <DiMiTRiS> I have a problem.  I am trying to install 6.10 but i can't get past step 5.  I choose manually edit partitions (i want to dual boot) and then i select mount points.  I keep geting a "No root file system" although i specifically selected a / mount point for a partition
[05:31] <UKMatt> is there a way to get Firefox to allow you to change tabs by using the wheel like Swiftfox does?
[05:31] <entereczek> I re installed xorg but it didint help.... anybody met something like that before?
[05:31] <frying_fish> UKMatt: I would ask in #firefox
[05:31] <poningru> UKMatt: whats wrong?
[05:31] <poningru> UKMatt: extension
[05:32] <holycow> offtopic but is anyone here in an eastern time zone? just wondering what time it is over there
[05:32] <dawn_> holycow: it's 11:32 am in est
[05:32] <holycow> dawn_, thank you
[05:32] <pazemlsqdfmoj> does lamp come with phpmyadmin?
[05:33] <kitche> pazemlsqdfmoj: no lamp and phpmyadmin are seperate
[05:33] <ragnar_123> how much will it take (in mb) of my internet connection to upgrade to edgy? (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades)
[05:33] <ian__> whata re the possible window managers for ubuntu 5.10
[05:33] <kahuuna> Shipped ubuntu cds not free anymore(6.10) ? :( :( :(
[05:33] <jrib> ragnar_123: it depends on your setup.  If you use apt-get method it should tell you beforehand
[05:34] <kahuuna> how lame ....
[05:34] <leftjustified> ragnar_123: took me 718. now I get to whipe and start back at dapper...choose wisely
[05:35] <kevin1> I am attempting to run vmware with Ath0 card, and get this message when I run vmware-config.pl.... can't bridge with ath0, bad header length 88
[05:35] <jonah1980_2> anyone here any good with compiz and xgl? why would i no longer have any titlebars on my windows? is there an way to get them back?
[05:35] <FlimFlamMan> dpkg and apt are thoroughly not happy with my courier packages.  it won't remove them or upgrade them.  how can i remove them manually?
[05:35] <dawn_> can anyone point me to a troubleshooting doc, or go through my configuration to see why thi srefuses to work?
[05:35] <maxflax> that rhythmbox app suxs.. It can't do anything,, how do I uninstall the crap program from ubuntu?
[05:35] <ragnar_123> oh.. i dont have any much left this month.. i've better wait till november...
[05:35] <slytherin> kahuuna: Wrong. 6.10 will not be shipped using shipit as Dapper is LTS release. Download ISO yourself which is till free.
[05:35] <kahuuna> LTS?
[05:35] <jrib> !wireless > dawn_
[05:35] <kahuuna> long term support
[05:35] <slytherin> kahuuna: Long Term Support. 3 years support on desktop and 5 years on server
[05:36] <kahuuna> why isnt edgy lts?
[05:36] <holycow> maxflax, llike all apps, use synaptic or sudo apt-get remove --purge rhythmbox
[05:36] <leftjustified> kevin1:  perhaps try #vmware if you get no response in here
[05:36] <pazemlsqdfmoj> Open Synaptic.
[05:36] <pazemlsqdfmoj> Go to Edit->Mark Packages By Task
[05:36] <pazemlsqdfmoj> Select LAMP
[05:36] <pazemlsqdfmoj> Install
[05:36] <slytherin> mjelva: See if this page helps you by skipping the compilation part, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LircHowto
[05:36] <BrightEyes`> which is the easiest way to setup a mail server on an ubuntu system?
[05:36] <DPackrat> jonah1980_2: I did sudo metacity --replace
[05:36] <ehird> tes
[05:36] <pazemlsqdfmoj> i did that but the window j ust closes and nothing happens?
[05:36] <dawn_> jrib: yeah i have tried all those, this is beyond normal operation
[05:36] <ehird> s/tes/test
[05:37] <mjelva> k slytherin
[05:37] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me figure out why tftpd-hpa is not starting?
[05:37] <slytherin> kahuuna: I guess every fourth release will be LTS
[05:37] <FlimFlamMan> Errors were encountered while processing:  courier-authdaemon
[05:37] <maxflax> holycow.. seems that many apps in that comes with ubuntu.. want to uninstall gnome when uninstalling them..
[05:37] <pazemlsqdfmoj> nm :)
[05:37] <holycow> maxflax, wtf are you talking about
[05:37] <holycow> stop saying stupid things, thats retarded
[05:37] <kahuuna> 5.10 and dapper were both free shipped :(
[05:37] <jrib> dawn_: hmm those are the only odcs I know about for wireless, i've never set it up myself on ubuntu.  Other thing you can do is search the forums to see if anyone had a similar experience
[05:37] <jonah1980_2> DPackrat, did you have my problem?
[05:38] <slytherin> kahuuna: Which country are you in?
[05:38] <DPackrat> jonah1980_2: I had the problem, wasn't using Xgl but had Xgl installed
[05:38] <holycow> rhythmbox might want to uninstall a gnome metapackage but the only way your removing gnome is by uninstalling a key gnome library
[05:38] <kahuuna> finland
[05:38] <holycow> in other words, it ain't happening
[05:38] <DPackrat> jonah1980_2: the window border issue
[05:38] <holycow> just do wha ti told you
[05:38] <dawn_> jrib: thanks, the forums have the same question/issue, but no responses an how to correct
[05:38] <davidenik> hy guys
[05:38] <davidenik> sorry what's the name of a good IRC client???
[05:38] <slytherin> kahuuna: Ask your LoCo team to get Edgy CDs at minimal cost. Why do you expect to get every CD free?
[05:39] <jrib> davidenik: xchat, irssi
[05:39] <slytherin> davidenik: xchat-gnome.
[05:39] <jonah1980_2> DPackrat, will metacity change anything, it seems to already be installed in my synaptic manager?
[05:39] <davidenik> ah thanks
[05:39] <JuJuBee> I installed tftpd-hpa (synaptic) modified /etc/default/tftpd-hpa to set root dir and turn on as daemon, ran /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start and its not running/
[05:39] <DPackrat> jonah1980_2: I don't think so, it just reloads your settings
[05:39] <zandaa> :S can anyone help me find the issue with my sound? Im using the on-board sound on my ASRock 939 DUAL-VSTA... and it was working fine yesterday, just isnt anymore
[05:39] <davidenik> slytherin i'm using xchat but it's so bad
[05:39] <slytherin> maxflax: Why do you want to remove rhythmbox?
[05:39] <kitche> dawn_: is your network encrypted or no?
[05:40] <dawn_> kitche: no, turned it off
[05:40] <slytherin> davidenik: Why do you think it is bad? Have you tried Gaim then?
[05:40] <sledge_at_work> I'm using a dual screen setup. If I move the mouse pointer to the other screen, it'll show up as a garbled 100x100 square. Any ideas?
[05:40] <davidenik> i'm using the new Ubuntu 6.10 but i liked the program there was on 6.09
[05:40] <budluva> someone want to lend a hand here, i think there's a bug in the edgy partitioner...i downloaded and burnt the 6.10 desktop .iso, booted to it, double-clicked on the install icon, setup my language, time zone, blah blah...i get to the partitioner and manually edited my tables, and i wanted to reformat my 10gig / and 1gig swap, leaving my previous 160gig /media/hda5 and 10 gig /home....when i click on Forward, it tells me i have no root p
[05:40] <davidenik> but i don't remember the name
[05:40] <dawn_> kitche: the problem right now is getting the hostap driver to load, it fails initialization... orinoco loaded and associated with the ap, but couldn't get it to actually connect
[05:40] <slytherin> davidenik: 6.09? =-O Which release is that?
[05:41] <davidenik> sorry
[05:41] <davidenik> the 6.06
[05:41] <jonah1980_2> DPackrat, i thought that had worked, my border came back but it turned off my gl compiz thing, when i flicked it back on bamm!! no borders again
[05:41] <FlimFlamMan> could someone please help me with this?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28680/
[05:41] <slytherin> davidenik: Program for what?
[05:41] <davidenik> for Irc
[05:41] <TheWheat> does anybody know how to disable nautilus search-as-you-type feature?
[05:41] <maxflax> holycow.. like when I want to uninstall Ekiga via synaptic it want to remove the gnome dekstop aswell for some reason
[05:41] <DPackrat> jonah1980_2: I'm not sure then. I am not using Xgl, but I have it *installed*. Worked fine for me using the regular gnome
[05:41] <slytherin> davidenik: It must be gaim.
[05:41] <bartholomeus> Salut les gens :)
[05:42] <holycow> maxflax, thats garbage, its just removing the gnome metapackage
[05:42] <holycow> just remove it
[05:42] <davidenik> i'm downloading XCHAT Gnome
[05:42] <holycow> removing the gnome metapackage means nothing
[05:42] <slytherin> maxflax: gnome-desktop is a meta-package. No harm in removing it.
[05:42] <davidenik> i hope it's this
[05:42] <holycow> !metapackage
[05:42] <ubotu> A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[05:42] <slytherin> davidenik: I hope you are installing it using synaptic and not from source.
[05:42] <maxflax> holycow, ok..and beeing a meta package means?
[05:42] <holycow> !metapackage
[05:42] <ubotu> A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[05:42] <davidenik> obviously slytherin
[05:43] <davidenik> wait
[05:43] <davidenik> i'll let you know
[05:43] <maxflax> ok
[05:43] <slytherin> maxflax: A meta package will allow you to install number of packages at once.
[05:43] <leftjustified> I get no errors on log file and a frozen black screen loading X with nvidia or nv drivers... any suggestions at all before I blank this system for the third time in a week?
[05:43] <BrightEyes`> which is the easiest way to setup a mail server on ubuntu?
[05:43] <yango> how long will there be LTS releases? 6.10 is not LTS, right?
[05:43] <slytherin> leftjustified: what card?
[05:43] <jonah1980_2> anyone else have any ideas why my titlebars have gone?
[05:43] <docmur> Hello all
[05:43] <yango> how long apart
[05:43] <leftjustified> slytherin: geforce 6600
[05:43] <budluva> someone want to lend a hand here, i think there's a bug in the edgy partitioner...i downloaded and burnt the 6.10 desktop .iso, booted to it, double-clicked on the install icon, setup my language, time zone, blah blah...i get to the partitioner and manually edited my tables, and i wanted to reformat my 10gig / and 1gig swap, leaving my previous 160gig /media/hda5 and 10 gig /home....when i click on Forward, it tells me i have no root p
[05:44] <docmur> Anyone know of any good Text to Speech convertors
[05:44] <maxflax> slytherin, I don't need that for future upgrades of installed packages?
[05:44] <slytherin> yango: I guess four releases apart. So you can expect 8.04 to be LTS
[05:44] <Homer> is Ubuntu a good distro for a spacecraft?
[05:44] <FlimFlamMan> how can i remove a package from my apt system manually?  the scripts are causing core dumps.
[05:44] <voosuz> hey. every third boot or so my ubuntu hangs after "Checking root file system .... [ok] " after a hard reset it boots successfully...any ideas what causes those hangs? I'm running Edgy.
[05:44] <LabThug> hmmm, I'm not getting an option to upgrade to edgy in my "Software Updates" what do I have to do to enable this (besides manually editing my /etc/apt/sources.lst)?
[05:45] <pazemlsqdfmoj> i just installed LAMP, but is there like a link or something to start it up? (like the start wamp in windows?)
[05:45] <slytherin> maxflax: Just before upgrade you could install it. But first tell me why you want to uninstall rhythmbox?
[05:45] <pero_> how to solve that the boot splash screen appears very very dark?
[05:45] <leftjustified> pazemlsqdfmoj: Administration > Services
[05:45] <pero_> in Edgy?
[05:46] <leftjustified> pazemlsqdfmoj: just make sure apache2 and mysql are checked (on)
[05:46] <slytherin> LabThug: 'gksu update-manager -c'
[05:46] <pazemlsqdfmoj> leftjustified: i cant seem to locate apache2 in it
[05:46] <eXistenZ> I installed the mscorefonts, still the fonts haven't been installed =/
[05:46] <leftjustified> pazemlsqdfmoj: very bottom of the list?
[05:46] <pazemlsqdfmoj> terminal multiplexor
[05:47] <mjelva> slytherin: followed the guide to the letter. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28684/
[05:47] <maxflax> slytherin, because it don't play stuff.. it won't play mp3, It don't play Audio CD.. ect. and who uses ogg anyway?
[05:47] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: Something like web server? Or do you just see apache? If yes, then it is apache 2
[05:47] <LabThug> slytherin: there it is, thanks!
[05:47] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: nothing like it in the services bit (im running edgy btw)
[05:48] <FlimFlamMan> HOW do i get something *out* of my apt system?  courier-authdaemon is preventing apt from running
[05:48] <leftjustified> pazemlsqdfmoj: if you don't see an option of "Web Server", it's not intalled
[05:48] <slytherin> maxflax: Heck you didn't even ask why it won't play mp3. And how did you plan to play mp3 after removing it?
[05:48] <leftjustified> FlimFlamMan: perhaps try dkpg -r <packagename>
[05:48] <pazemlsqdfmoj> leftjustified: to install it i selected LAMP in synaptic : Edit->Mark Packages By Task and hit apply
[05:48] <yango> how has 6.10 worked? many outstanding bugs?
[05:49] <maxflax> slytherin, So im looking for a app that plays all. I haven't removed it.. I removed the Ekiga..never gonna use that apps anyway
[05:49] <origin> Anyone able to help with a monitor resolution problem (kubuntu) ? Would appreciate any suggestions :-)
[05:49] <GeForce> origin: What's your problem ?
[05:49] <slytherin> mjelva: I asked you to skip compiling thing
[05:49] <FlimFlamMan> leftjustified: i tried that
[05:49] <mjelva> slytherin: so, which parts of the guide am i supposed to follow?
[05:50] <maxflax> slytherin, So how do I get it to play mp3 and audio cds?
[05:50] <slytherin> !tell maxflax about mp3
[05:50] <docmur> question
[05:50] <geeky_bodhi> quick question: does the kernel in edgy support the Intel D965ry board with the off-beat IDE controller?
[05:50] <mjelva> oh right
[05:50] <leftjustified> pazemlsqdfmoj: search synaptic for 'apache2' and 'php' -- mark for installation
[05:50] <mjelva> god, i'm stupid
[05:50] <docmur> is it possible to build a source distro upgrade
[05:50] <mjelva> slytherin: k. following second part of the guide
[05:50] <FlimFlamMan> dpkg -r courier-authdaemon
[05:50] <FlimFlamMan> dpkg: error processing courier-authdaemon (--remove):  package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[05:50] <docmur> so if I want to go to edgy can I apt-get build-dep dist-upgrade
[05:50] <docmur> ???
[05:50] <docmur> just a thought
[05:50] <slytherin> mjelva: Get configuration files from the lirc ubuntu package onwards
[05:50] <jrib> !upgrade > docmur
[05:50] <jrib> docmur: not quite, see ubotu's message
[05:51] <docmur> yes but is that source
[05:51] <jrib> docmur: oh didn't see your earlier message
[05:51] <pazemlsqdfmoj> leftjustified: apache2 got everything installed that i know it needs
[05:51] <MrMaDSeN> hellow
[05:51] <docmur> this is just an idea
[05:51] <docmur> I'm not sure it will work
[05:51] <pazemlsqdfmoj> leftjustified: apache2, apache2-common, apache2-mpm-prefork etc
[05:51] <leftjustified> pazemlsqdfmoj: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[05:51] <docmur> I'm only asking if the idea sounds like it would work
[05:51] <FlimFlamMan> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'
[05:51] <FlimFlamMan>   what():  basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid
[05:51] <FlimFlamMan> Aborted (core dumped)
[05:52] <origin> 
[05:52] <ozk> holla
[05:52] <pazemlsqdfmoj> leftjustified: its already running :O
[05:52] <MrMaDSeN> how du I edit locales?
[05:52] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: May be a logout and login will help. I am sure apache appears in that dialog
[05:52] <xenakis> anybody want to point me to a cups tutorial/howto that actually *works*? I've tried the links ubotu has recommended.
[05:52] <ozk> does anyone know how to get the print out of fdisk -l in ubuntu ?
[05:52] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: ok :)
[05:52] <leftjustified> pazemlsqdfmoj: thought so. it's not like windows; that stuff will be running automagically ;)
[05:52] <ozk> does anyone know how to get the print out of fdisk -l in *ubuntu edgy
[05:52] <pazemlsqdfmoj> leftjustified: i rather have it not running on startup ;)
[05:52] <xenakis> I'm trying to set up a network printer using cups that another Linux machine can print to.
[05:52] <leftjustified> pazemlsqdfmoj: also /etc/init.d/mysql start if you want to be sure....
[05:52] <pazemlsqdfmoj> leftjustified: i use it to test some scripts locally before uploading to main server, not to actually host
[05:52] <slytherin> ozk: What do you mean by print out?
[05:52] <designdr1amz> i can ping a server constantly without packet loss. but apache2 and sshd seem to be intermitent... sar shows nearly 100% idle, top shows the same.. what could be causing this?
[05:53] <InnerF|RE> what can i use to access itunes?
[05:53] <xenakis> !cups
[05:53] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:53] <leftjustified> pazemlsqdfmoj: it will retain the previous state. call /etc/init.d/apache2 stop to turn it off. do start next time you want it running. same with mysql
[05:53] <slytherin> InnerF|RE: First tell us what you want to do and which Ubuntu version?
[05:53] <ozk> slytherin:  when I type fdisk -l I see nothing
[05:54] <pazemlsqdfmoj> leftjustified: so if i turn it off, dont use it for a week, log on and off regularly, it will stay off till i turn it on manually?
[05:54] <InnerF|RE> i want to access itunes and download a song
[05:54] <leftjustified> pazemlsqdfmoj: or put the commands in a .sh file on your desktop and double click them like you did with wamp :)
[05:54] <InnerF|RE> im using edgy
[05:54] <leftjustified> pazemlsqdfmoj: THat has been my experience, yes.
[05:54] <slytherin> ozk: add prefix sudo
[05:54] <pazemlsqdfmoj> leftjustified: ok thx :)
[05:54] <origin> monitor resolution problem > edited xorg.config but no change (kubuntu)
[05:54] <mjelva> slytherin: this guide makes no sense if i'm installing from repository
[05:54] <slytherin> InnerF|RE: Download a song from iTunes music store?
[05:55] <ozk> slytherin: thanks - it works I forgot I need to be root for that
[05:55] <NewUser3829> simple question - is there an easy way to make all of your Desktop Icons smaller, I have tried Stretch Icon but that does not work the way I want it to for all icons. Thanks for any assistance on this.
[05:55] <slytherin> mjelva: Even later half is senseless?
[05:55] <mjelva> slytherin: latter half makes no sense unless you're doing the first half
[05:55] <leftjustified> slytherin: no tips for my dead X11 then? :)
[05:56] <slytherin> NewUser3829: Change iCon theme from System->Preferences->Theme
[05:56] <InnerF|RE> yeah slytherin
[05:56] <InnerF|RE> i want to download a song
[05:56] <NewUser3829> thanks slytherin
[05:56] <slytherin> leftjustified: Can you please state your problem again?
[05:56] <pazemlsqdfmoj> where is the apache2 www folder located?
[05:56] <eracc> Ok, on Mandriva I have the commands 'service' and 'chkconfig' for service management (starting/stopping services and enabling/disabling services). What are the equivalents on *buntu?
[05:56] <TimsonC2000> i don't understand 915resolution ... i need a standard resolution its listed in "915resolution  -l" so i don't need this programm ... or i am wron?
[05:56] <JQK> !xorg
[05:56] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:56] <slytherin> !tell InnerF|RE about restricted
[05:57] <leftjustified> slytherin: frozen black screen after animated load screen; same result with nv or nvidia drivers; no errors in Xorg log file; geforce 6600 card
[05:57] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: /var/www/apache2-default/
[05:57] <leftjustified> slytherin: this is with edgy; nv driver worked with dapper
[05:57] <xenakis> I can't get my printer to be recognized as a network printer.
[05:57] <mvximvs> espaol
[05:57] <mvximvs> espaol
[05:57] <mvximvs> espaol
[05:58] <budluva> is there any know installation bugs with 6.10??? im stuck at step 5/6 of the edgy install...when im preparing to mount my partitions, in 4/6 i selected hda1 as bootable, when to the next screen 5/6 and selected hda1 for / (primary) and hda6 for swap, both are checked to reformat, then hda7 for /home and hda5 for /media/hda5 both which i dont want to format, i click the forward button and an error pops up saying no root file system....w
[05:58] <slytherin> leftjustified: No idea. May be erach for bug reports on launchpad or raise an alarm in #ubuntu-desktop
[05:58] <mvximvs> alguien habla espaol
[05:58] <leftjustified> slytherin: thanks :)
[05:58] <Intangir> i need a graphical program that can tell me what the index is of a pixel in an 8 bit image
[05:58] <elriah> Ok, finished my 6.10 upgrade, went pretty good!  No issues to report...
[05:58] <jrib> Intangir: gimp ?
[05:58] <me_> i cant install direct rendering on my ati radeon 9700... i try it for weeks now... could anyone help me pls?
[05:58] <davvs> how can i select what program to start if i mount a music cd ?
[05:59] <Intangir> jrib: where do you find that in gimp? i looked but i cant find it
[05:59] <jrib> davvs: system > preferences > removable drives and media
[05:59] <Intangir> it seems to treat 8bit the same as RGB images
[05:59] <docmur> New Idea
[05:59] <docmur> can I build gnome from source
[05:59] <michaels__> is there a way to cleanly install a new copy of ubuntu on the same partitions as the previous one without needing to backup or delete /home and /etc?
[05:59] <jrib> docmur: google for gargnome or jhbuild
[05:59] <Intangir> i need a graphical program that can tell me what the index is of a pixel in an 8 bit image
[06:00] <Terminus> michaels__: if you put them on different partitions, yes.
[06:00] <docmur> okay I take it they build it from source
[06:00] <elriah> michaels: So much easier just to back up first...
[06:00] <budluva> michaels__ yes...just dont choose to reformat your /home partition
[06:00] <mjelva> slytherin: does the log tell you anything about why i'm unable to make?
[06:00] <Terminus> docmur: if you want to, yes.
[06:00] <slytherin> michaels__: Clean install itself means loss of old settings and files, doesn't it?
[06:00] <slytherin> mjelva: Nope. Sorry
[06:01] <docmur> can I not just apt-get build-dep gnome apt-get --build source gnome
[06:01] <michaels__> elriah, slytherin: the problem is I don't have any other ext partitions and I kinda broke ubuntu anyway so I can only backup to my ntfs partition and windows has a hard time with some of the filenames... it's a huge amount of work to back /home up.
[06:01] <xenakis> I have configured cups exactly as explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP and still I get "job stopped" when trying to print from any computer on the network to this printer.\
[06:02] <michaels__> budluva: so it's possible to just install it over the old installation without losing my old data?
[06:02] <slytherin> michaels__: what is broken?
[06:02] <slytherin> docmur: Why install from source?
[06:02] <docmur> lol don't know
[06:02] <docmur> I'm just board right now
[06:02] <docmur> and I want to do something new
[06:02] <docmur> I've never built gnome from source
[06:02] <michaels__> slytherin: xserver. and I kinda wanted to start afresh anyhow, since this install has been through a lot and I want a clean one.
[06:02] <xenakis> !cups
[06:02] <raiz> elo
[06:02] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:02] <slytherin> docmur: Try installing beryl then and have some 3D eyecandy
[06:03] <jrib> docmur: learn a new programming language, it will probably be more useful to you than building gnoem from source :)
[06:03] <Khamael> after upgrading to edgy, my totem won`t play .wmv
[06:03] <elriah> Cool! Everything works.
[06:03] <slytherin> michaels__: Is your /home on separate partition?
[06:03] <magni_> just upgraded to Ubuntu Edgy. And now, Gnome redraws windows very slow. (Like when I resize, move och scroll, it starts lagging). Anyone have a tip on how I can fix this?
[06:03] <michaels__> nope slytherin =\
[06:03] <elriah> Khamael: You'll have to reinstall those packages since they aren't supported by Ubuntu ...
[06:04] <elriah> magni: a number of x.org video drivers were removed .. What's your video card?
[06:04] <docmur> I know but the problem with learning a programming lang is that I'm already working on perl
[06:04] <Khamael> elriah: where/how?
[06:04] <slytherin> Khamael: Do you have package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll installed?
[06:04] <thcrw8383> hi
[06:04] <Akuma_> could somebody help me out setting my resolution to 1400x1050, or point me to a good xorg.conf tutorial?
[06:04] <docmur> and right now I'm reading alot of UNIX books for my college program
[06:04] <slytherin> michaels__: Then I don't see a way
[06:04] <magni_> elriah: Nvida
[06:04] <docmur> I have to take UNIX funditments next year and I want to master it
[06:04] <elriah> Hrm... Did the Nvidia logo come up after your first reboot post upgrade?
[06:05] <magni_> elriah: No, I don't think so...
[06:05] <pazemlsqdfmoj> apache www folder has root access only at start, i have created an extra group for the users who can write there as well, but how can i assign that gruop to the map? right click permissions wont work as i cant log in as su (or is there a way?)
[06:05] <michaels__> slytherin: would it be possible, with the edgy desktop cd, to split the / partition into / and home and move files around?
[06:05] <elriah> Mine did.. What Nvidia card?
[06:05] <Khamael> slytherin: yes
[06:05] <docmur> how do I change my text color
[06:05] <elriah> Also, do you have the nvidia glx packages installed?
[06:05] <slytherin> Khamael: And do you have w32codecs installed?
[06:06] <elriah> Anything that wasn't in the ubuntu official repositories is probably going to have issues...
[06:06] <frederick85> How do I switch off firewall in Ubuntu?
[06:06] <docmur> ummm I'll be back later guys
[06:06] <slytherin> michaels__: not sure.
[06:06] <docmur> cya thanks
[06:06] <magni_> elriah: It's nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  , but I had some problems when I upgraded. So I will check that all packages are installed. Thanks
[06:06] <wiking> HELP!  I dont know what i did. i did alvays problem with sound in games. Yesterday I did wery happy because all games has had sound, but today already no sound...
[06:06] <Khamael> slytherin: yes
[06:06] <InnerF|RE> slytherin : Package requirements (mono >= 1.1.13) were not met:
[06:06] <slytherin> frederick85: Why switch it off? Want to have a feel of WIndows XP ;-)
[06:06] <InnerF|RE> whats mono?
[06:06] <LjL> frederick85: you don't have any firewalling rules enabled by default
[06:06] <InnerF|RE> i installed mono and it says the same thing
[06:07] <leftjustified> !mono
[06:07] <InnerF|RE> am i looking for libmono?
[06:07] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[06:07] <slytherin> Khamael: Then not sure what the problem is.
[06:07] <elriah> Mangi: I would remove the nvidia glx packages, reboot, then reinstall them, reboot.
[06:07] <elriah> Gotta run, later peeps!
[06:07] <eracc> Ok, on Mandriva I have the commands 'service' and 'chkconfig' for service management (starting/stopping services and enabling/disabling services). What are the equivalents on *buntu? (please type my /nick if any of you answer so I can see your reply in the "noise" here :-)
[06:07] <Khamael> slytherin: I had totem-xine. trying gstreamer
[06:07] <budluva> is there any know installation bugs with 6.10??? im stuck at step 5/6 of the edgy install...when im preparing to mount my partitions, in 4/6 i selected hda1 as bootable, when to the next screen 5/6 and selected hda1 for / (primary) and hda6 for swap, both are checked to reformat, then hda7 for /home and hda5 for /media/hda5 both which i dont want to format, i click the forward button and an error pops up saying no root file system....w
[06:07] <Sean> anyone tried both ubuntu and debian and think that ubuntu is a better one for desktop?
[06:07] <michaels__> k, I'll try and get another hd to put stuff on temporarily. thanks everybody (slytherin especially)
[06:08] <slytherin> Khamael: With totem-gstreamer and pitfdll and w32codecs it should work. It works on my machine
[06:08] <bwlang> Sean: I did, and i think that
[06:08] <thcrw8383> @sean,go with Ubuntu,debian in,well,not as good as ubuntu
[06:08] <dsewnr_> :p
[06:08] <InnerF|RE> sharpmusique page is down
[06:08] <thcrw8383> @sean:but ubuntu is built on debian
[06:09] <slytherin> budluva: Search launchpad.net
[06:09] <Timo90> how do i install grub to floppy
[06:09] <reiki> ok my test on the upgrade failed. I get a the splash and then a black screen. Recovery mode sees this: modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.17-10.386/modules.dep. No such file or directory.
[06:09] <pazemlsqdfmoj> anyone? is there a way to alter (as root) permissions on a folder in X?
[06:09] <Timo90>  GRUB will be installed to (hd0)
[06:10] <slytherin> Timo90: 'grub-install /dev/fd0' should work
[06:10] <gus> pazemlsqdfmoj, chmod
[06:10] <xenakis> has anybody successfully set up a network printer in dapper? This is ridiculous.
[06:10] <pazemlsqdfmoj> gus: wont chmod set it for _all_ groups? im looking to simply add a group which would have some rights on the folder
[06:10] <ripper> xenakis yes, its not that hard
[06:10] <xenakis> ripper: then help me.
[06:11] <hangfire> I downloaded edgy and it turned out to be a zip rather than an iso. How should I burn it to CD? Just unzip and burn the contents?
[06:11] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: What is command you tried?
[06:11] <gus> pazemlsqdfmoj, chmod will modify permisions
[06:11] <Timo90> ok so i should just change the <hd0> to /dev/fd0
[06:11] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: none yet, im thinking of how its done :D
[06:11] <xenakis> ripper: I've been at this for an hour now. I've tried the howtos that ubotu points to. I've done google searches. Nothing is working.
[06:11] <slytherin> hangfire: From where did you download it?
[06:11] <hangfire> from one of the download mirrors, it was in poland
[06:11] <tammy> hay how van i go to the german chat
[06:11] <mulima> hi
[06:11] <tammy> hay how van i go to the german chat
[06:11] <reiki> !de
[06:11] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:11] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: the root has sole access to the map atm, i wanna add a custom made group who also has access, it must be possible for a map to have different permissions from several groups/users yes?
[06:11] <gus> pazemlsqdfmoj, u can change permisions for owner, group and others
[06:11] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: chmod 766 dirname should do.
[06:12] <tammy> #ubuntu.de
[06:12] <tammy> !de
[06:12] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:12] <Timo90> this better work
[06:12] <Terminus> xenakis: i have. i couldn't help you earlier coz i was taking a bath. give me a few. i got it integrated with windows without configuring samba too. =)
[06:12] <reiki> tammy   /j #ubuntu-de
[06:12] <hangfire> slytherin- I downloaded from an official mirror in poland
[06:12] <slytherin> hangfire: Give me exact link. Let me make sure you downloaded right file. I don't think any isos are in zip format
[06:13] <gus> pazemlsqdfmoj, if u want to add a group to a dir: chgrp group dirname
[06:13] <hangfire> slytherin- ok
[06:13] <xenakis> Terminus: thanks. Dry yourself off. :-) Then I'd love some help.
[06:13] <Timo90> its amazing how i can install a OS yet still be able to use the PC
[06:13] <pazemlsqdfmoj> gus: is there no visual interface of this?
[06:13] <mulima> i've mounted edgy's iso , added the cdrom in /etc/apt/sources.list with 'apt-cdrom add -c /media/edgy -m ' and commented all dapper's entries, and dist-upgrade from edgy's iso dont work .. anyone could help ?
[06:14] <Timo90> !64bit
[06:14] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[06:14] <reiki> ok my test on the upgrade failed. I get a the splash and then a black screen. Recovery mode sees this: modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.17-10.386/modules.dep. No such file or directory.
[06:14] <thee> mulima: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[06:14] <gus> pazemlsqdfmoj, jeje, i think u can clicking in propities of the folder
[06:14] <nexact> hey all, is there a way to know current internet traffic on my eth0 in console ?
[06:14] <reiki> do I need to reconfigure x or will that not help this?
[06:14] <thee> mulima: copy and paste.
[06:14] <slytherin> mulima: It won't work that way. Add a line like 'deb file:///media/ubuntucd/ubuntu edgy main restricted'
[06:14] <pazemlsqdfmoj> gus: no, i cant cause im not logged in as root and i know of now way to become su in X, so the permissions tab is blanked out
[06:14] <ripper> xenakis what kind of printer?
[06:14] <slytherin> mulima: Then do 'apt-get update'
[06:14] <xenakis> ripper: Hp laserjet 4. It prints fine locally.
[06:15] <mulima> slytherin, and that is enought ...?
[06:15] <pazemlsqdfmoj> gus: also chgrp actually changes the current group, but what if i wanna keep the current group and just add another group with different permissions?
[06:15] <ripper> xenakis do you have samba and cups setup?
[06:15] <slytherin> mulima: after update do dist-upgrade.
[06:15] <hangfire> slytherin- it is this page, just click on europe>poland>Ftp.man.szczecin.pl
[06:15] <xenakis> ripper: I have cups setup. I'm just trying to get it to print from another ubuntu machine for now...
[06:15] <ripper> xenakis ok then this should be easy
[06:16] <hangfire> slytherin-http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease  sry
[06:16] <ripper> !cups
[06:16] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:16] <gus> pazemlsqdfmoj, u can or u have to set it up in others
[06:16] <xenakis> ripper: yeah I've done this before...which is part of what is so frustring about it.
[06:16] <xenakis> ripper: I tried all those links already.
[06:16] <ripper> xenakis hang on
[06:16] <Sean> one more question here: I'm  new to Linux, is the Xwindow operates as smooth as windows GUI does?
[06:16] <mulima> huuu just seen in the wiki that it need alternate install cd .. i've got desktop iso ... will not work at all ?
[06:16] <Terminus> xenakis: ok, i'm good.
[06:16] <hangfire> Sean- no it doesnt, x windows is slow
[06:17] <Homer> Sean, about the same, and with XGL/Compiz much better
[06:17] <xenakis> Sean: try a liveCD and judge for yourself. :-)
[06:17] <ozk> hi all! back again
[06:17] <slytherin> hangfire: Can you please temm me exact link you used for download? link to the zip file or whatever.
[06:17] <Homer> livecd is slow
[06:17] <Terminus> xenakis: first, a few questions. you have to get it to run on windows too, right? which versions of windows?
[06:17] <ripper> xenakis have you tried using the same setup as the local box is using, except adding the network info?
[06:17] <xenakis> Terminus: eventually if Windows would print to it that would be nice.
[06:17] <Sean> OK, thanks for sugestions, I'll give it a try:)
[06:17] <Homer> x11 itself is really really fast
[06:17] <hangfire> slytherin- ok
[06:17] <xenakis> Terminus: for now printing from another linux machine would be great.
[06:17] <Terminus> xenakis: ok, what versions of windows? if it's w2k/wxp, we can skip samba. otherwise, samba is necessary.
[06:17] <xenakis> ripper: yes.
[06:17] <mulima> slytherin,   upgrade from edgy's desktop iso could work ...?
[06:17] <Terminus> xenakis: ok.
[06:18] <jfro> i upgraded to edgy (from dapper), and libdl.so.2 is gone, even tho packages.ubuntu.com says it's in the libc6 package...
[06:18] <xenakis> Terminus: Xp
[06:18] <ozk> I can't launch the program launcher in the new gnome (edgy) I know it works when you type ALT+F2. Does anyone else has this ?
[06:18] <Terminus> xenakis: you already have it running locally?
[06:18] <jfro> any ideas? beside smnually creating the link
[06:18] <xenakis> Terminus: yes
[06:18] <pazemlsqdfmoj> is there a gnome version of kuser?
[06:18] <elg> that upgrade link should be on the homepage somewhere, like it was yesterday
[06:18] <ripper> xenakis have you tried not using cups on the remote pc to achieve printing?
[06:18] <hangfire> slytherin- here is the exact link: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#
[06:18] <Terminus> xenakis: can you go to the other computer, open a browser, and go to http://$server_ip:631/printers
[06:18] <slytherin> mulima: Nope. You could copy packages manually to /var/cache/apt/archives to save download
[06:18] <xenakis> Terminus, ripper: I looked at the cups error log on the remote machine and it is complaining about authorization.
[06:18] <hangfire> slytherin-whoops error, I didnt copy ok
[06:19] <Terminus> xenakis: let me on if you can see the page. if not, we're in for some config editing. =)
[06:19] <xenakis> Terminus: I've done that. it comes up np.
[06:19] <ozk> can any1 here launch the program launcher in the new edgy ?
[06:19] <xenakis> Terminus: yes I can see that page no problem.
[06:19] <utilizador1> Hello
[06:19] <ripper> xenakis then there is your problem @ auth
[06:19] <slytherin> ozk: launcher to which program?
[06:19] <pazemlsqdfmoj> can i run kuser in gnome? (as there seems to be no gnome-alternative)
[06:19] <xenakis> ripper: ok. I don't want any auth to print on this printer. How can I do this.
[06:20] <ripper> xenakis good question, because i think for initial setup you have to :)
[06:20] <Terminus> xenakis: from the other pc, not local? no password required?
[06:20] <hangfire> slytherin- ok, here is the exact link, strange, it says its an iso when its not ftp://ftp.man.szczecin.pl/pub/Linux/ubuntu-cd/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[06:20] <xenakis> Terminus: I would like no password required from remote machines.
[06:20] <ozk> slytherin: to all of them? you know under gnome you're supposed to type alt+f2
[06:20] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: Have you tried through System->Administration->User and Groups?
[06:21] <jfro> argh, seems like libc6 package doesn't create the symlink
[06:21] <Terminus> xenakis: but when you go to it now through the web browser, it asks you for a password?
[06:21] <slytherin> ozk: Can you explain your problem a bit more?
[06:21] <utilizador1> Hello, i want use xchat... where can i find it ?
[06:21] <thee> ozk: try adding run application applet to the panel...
[06:21] <Sean> use google and type xchat:)
[06:21] <xenakis> Terminus: no. not to see the page at least.
[06:21] <FunnyLookinHat> utilizador1, in the add/remove applications menu
[06:21] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: it only allows you to create new groups/users, not to actually manage them (except putting users into certain groups)
[06:21] <ozk> thee: that work's fine
[06:21] <slytherin> hangfire: I don't understand why you got a zip file. How did you download it?
[06:21] <Sean> you will find the website of xchat
[06:21] <ozk> thee: but I want to use alt+f2
[06:22] <pak-x> hi
[06:22] <hangfire> utilizador- go to applications>add and remove and under internet youll see xchat
[06:22] <mulima> slytherin, in fact there is a binarie cdromupgrade in edgy's desktop iso ... gonna try it
[06:22] <xenakis> ripper: I don't see an @AUTH anywhere in the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file.
[06:22] <ripper> you wont.
[06:22] <ripper> :P
[06:22] <Terminus> xenakis: ok, can you add a printer thru system -> administration -> printing and use the address ipp://$server_ip/printers/$printer_name
[06:22] <hangfire> slytherin- I dont either?? I dont know, I guess I will try another link
[06:22] <ripper> i was shortening my sentences.
[06:22] <xenakis> Terminus: yeah I did that.
[06:22] <ozk> slytherin: what happens usually when you type alt+f2 under gnome ? you get a launcher you can type commands to launch apps. isn't so ?
[06:22] <pak-x> i have installed xgl on my laptop and it has started. but i get only black, flackering polygonfragments to see, what should i do?
[06:23] <ripper> xenakis lemme look at my cups config
[06:23] <slytherin> mulima: Why don't you download alternate iso instead? It is meant for upgrade.
[06:23] <Terminus> xenakis: can you post your cupsd.conf?
[06:23] <xenakis> !paste
[06:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:23] <ripper> cause all my machines can print to any printer of the 4 i have on the network
[06:23] <mahyar> I'm doing a dist-upgrade the it's going reallllly slow right now.  How can I optimise / change my mirrors so it will go faster
[06:23] <mulima> yeah you're true
[06:23] <reiki> I get a the splash and then a black screen. Recovery mode sees this: modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.17-10.386/modules.dep. No such file or directory.
[06:23] <reiki> any help on this one?
[06:23] <slytherin> ozk: Ok. That is not a launcher. It is just Run Dialog. I get it
[06:23] <ArtVandalae> mahyar, you can change your mirrors in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:23] <ozk> slytherin: ok. that's what I meant
[06:23] <xenakis> ripper, Terminus: it's at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28693/
[06:24] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: can i just install kuser in gnome?
[06:24] <ozk> slytherin: but it still doesn't work - no matter how you name it :-)
[06:24] <ozk> slytherin: does it work for you under new gnome ?
[06:24] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: You are solving wrong problem. Installing a KDE application will pull many dependencies.
[06:24] <hangfire> slytherin- I see what happened, it is an iso file, but power archiver opened it anyway for me like a zip. Sry for the bother
[06:24] <mahyar> artvandalae, how can i change it to choose the fastest mirrors for me?
[06:25] <slytherin> ozk: Sure it works. What program are you trying to launch?
[06:25] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: but there seems to be no user-management application for gnome? (cant find one in google/synaptic anyway)
[06:25] <Timo90> !recoverconsole
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recoverconsole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <Timo90> !recoveryconsole
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recoveryconsole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <Timo90> !restore
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: im not really enjoying the prospect of changing all group settings etc in a terminal, added to which, i dont know the right command
[06:25] <ozk> slytherin: the Run Dialog itself doesn't work when i type ALT+F2
[06:25] <Timo90> !recovery
[06:25] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[06:26] <ozk> slytherin: the problem is that i can't launch the Run Dialog
[06:26] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: Learn command line tool then.
[06:26] <Timo90> !botsnak
[06:26] <ArtVandalae> mahyar, there's no easy way to do that, find a local mirror (a mirror that's located close geographically to you), and edit /etc/apt/sources.list to use those mirrors instead
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsnak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <slytherin> ozk: weird.
[06:26] <Timo90> !botsnack
[06:26] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:27] <Homer> I'm on breezy guys
[06:27] <Homer> lol
[06:27] <Timo90> im installing the 64 bit,never tryed it :)
[06:27] <Homer> breezy badger!
[06:27] <ozk> slytherin: It worked before the upgrade. and if I change the ALT+F2 to run a terminal it launches terminal as usuall, so it's not something with the keyboard
[06:27] <ozk> slytherin: I am asking because I think this is a bug
[06:28] <slytherin> ozk: Check keyboard shortcuts from System->Preferences
[06:28] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin:  you happen to have  a neat site for that (in regards to group management) ? cause i cant find much in google concerning that topic
[06:28] <ripper> xenakis dont use cups on the hp, use the hp direct jet
[06:29] <ozk> slytherin: I just wrote that if it is configured to run the terminal it works. but It just won't launch the Run Dialog
[06:29] <ripper> xenakis lemme know if that works :)
[06:29] <xenakis> ripper: but shouldn't cups work?
[06:29] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: No. I don't claim that. The only thing is that the problem could be solvable in simpler way than installing a KDE package in GNOME
[06:29] <ripper> xenakis may or may not, hp's are funny like that
[06:29] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: but how?
[06:29] <slytherin> ozk: Just wait.
[06:29] <xenakis> ripper: will that work for OS X and WinXP too? This is a multi-platform lab.
[06:29] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: i dont know/cant find the bloody command to add a group, all the commands i find are to change the current group, which i dont want
[06:29] <ripper> xenakis i should know i've got a total of 6, 4 of which are networked
[06:30] <ozk> slytherin: ok
[06:30] <ripper> xenakis give it a shot, couldnt hurt
[06:30] <Terminus> xenakis: i assume 156.*.*.* is your entire network?
[06:30] <xenakis> Terminus: yes
[06:30] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: What about addgroup?
[06:30] <xulund> lhur fixar man igng logitech webcams
[06:30] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: not add a group to the system, thats the easy part, but suppose you have a map, you want group1 to have r&w access, group2 to have r access
[06:30] <ripper> !webcams
[06:30] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:31] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: Ok. Let me make a quick search.
[06:31] <ripper> !webcams > xulund
[06:31] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: ok thx
[06:31] <reiki> no help on this one? I'm googling my tail off and can't find an answer...
[06:31] <reiki> I get a the splash and then a black screen. Recovery mode sees this: modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.17-10.386/modules.dep. No such file or directory.
[06:31] <xulund> !webcams
[06:31] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:32] <xenakis> !cups
[06:32] <ripper> !modules
[06:32] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:32] <Timo90> my install is done ,thanks for the help guys;)
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modules - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <ripper> !hp
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <ripper> !direct jet
[06:32] <Timo90> !direct-jet
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about direct-jet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <Timo90> !directjet
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about directjet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <Timo90> ohh well bye
[06:33] <ripper> xenakis check this out http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&hs=jHU&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=laserjet+4+%2B+ubuntu+&spell=1
[06:33] <miojo> guys, I'm seeing a lot of people reporting Firefox bugs recently
[06:34] <marten_71> !icq
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[06:34] <Chris86wm> hey guys i am thinking about downloading the 64-bit version of ubuntu for my athlon 64. is there any differences that I should be aware of between the 32 bit ubuntu and the 64 bit one?
[06:35] <Chris86wm> anyone?
[06:36] <rwscold> ?
[06:36] <Chris86wm> hey guys i am thinking about downloading the 64-bit version of ubuntu for my athlon 64. is there any differences that I should be aware of between the 32 bit ubuntu and the 64 bit one?
[06:36] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: Couldn't find anything
[06:36] <Lattyware> Anyone who can help with my two problems? 1) DNS servers dissapear on reboot (Static IP) 2) Audio sometimes works and sometimes doesn't at boot, have to reboot to get audio again.
[06:36] <xenakis> ripper: I'm already stuck because hp-toolbox won't load. I can fix this...but I know for a fact that this printer works with dapper and network printing because I once set it up to work last year. I just can't remember how I did it.
[06:36] <slytherin> Chris86wm: Flash may not work ;-)
[06:36] <xenakis> ripper: and it was w/ cups.
[06:37] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: so windows actually beat linux at something for once? :|
[06:37] <ripper> xenakis have you tried different settings from the cups page in your browser?
[06:37] <rwscold> xenakis when was dapper released?
[06:37] <Lattyware> pazemlsqdfmoj: Ever tried video editing in linux?
[06:37] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: I won't say so. I have been using Ubuntu for last 2 years. And didn't find a good reason to go back to Windows. Go ahead and install kuser :-D
[06:38] <xenakis> rwscold: 6 months ago. I started with a beta.
[06:38] <Lattyware> But yeah, I havn't booted into windows for about 3 months
[06:38] <pazemlsqdfmoj> anyone: suppose i have 2 groups: "Guests" "Classmates", i want everyone in "Guests" to be able to read only, those in "Classmates" to rw, how can i do this?
[06:38] <pazemlsqdfmoj> Lattyware: that bad? :)
[06:38] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: what sort of issues would it generate?
[06:38] <elvar> !image
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <elvar> does someone knowz what site to post image
[06:38] <elvar> ?
[06:39] <Lattyware> pazemlsqdfmoj: Linux video editing tools just don't exist. Or at least as far as I can see. Shame.
[06:39] <dnite> if i've been using the RC version of edgy for a few days before the release was official, will I just auto update to the official edgy?
[06:39] <elvar> does someone knowz what site to post image on the site ?
[06:39] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: It won't gerenate any issues.
[06:39] <xenakis> Terminus: did you give up?
[06:39] <elvar> like pastebin
[06:39] <elvar> !pastebin
[06:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:39] <Lattyware> elvar: imageshack.us?
[06:39] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: so...what was the problem you mentioned earlier on?
[06:39] <Comrade_S> dnite: yes
[06:39] <rwscold> http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-6130136.html?part=rss&tag=6130136&subj=news
[06:39] <thee> elvar: try imageshack.us
[06:39] <dnite> Comrade_S, thanks
[06:39] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: Dependencies. It may download many packages
[06:39] <slytherin> Lattyware: Ever tried kino?
[06:40] <Terminus> xenakis: if you can access ipp://$server/printers without a password remotely through a browser, it shouldn't ask you for one just to print.
[06:40] <Lattyware> slytherin: Isn't that only for some obscure type of video recorder or somthing?
[06:40] <xenakis> Terminus: it doesn't ask me for one. It just fails to print.
[06:40] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: is it possible it doesnt have any? cause it doesnt seem to have a long list? (no list at all actually xcept the program)
[06:40] <Terminus> xenakis: just observing what ripper is saying. it seems he has more experience with laserjets. my only experience is with hplip and a deskjet 840C.
[06:40] <Lattyware> In fact, somthing I really want is a tool to remove audio streams from video (like the english dubbings from anime).
[06:41] <slytherin> Lattyware: I haven't used it myself. But Kino is perhaps most famous video editor in GNU/Linux world.
[06:41] <Crembo> can you help me? Gnome keeps getting stuck and stops responding. I can alt-tab between windows, but clicking on the panels or the desktop gives no response...
[06:41] <Crembo> (Edgy)
[06:41] <MasseR> Lattyware: Mencoder can do it afaik
[06:41] <ripper> Terminus i've got more printers on this network than i could ever need :)
[06:41] <ripper> Terminus all of them are HP
[06:41] <Lattyware> MasseR: I need to find out how that is done and make a script to do it en masse.
[06:42] <Lattyware> It'd cut down the size of my anime loads. Stupid english dubbings.
[06:42] <Lattyware> Anyone who can help with my two problems? 1) DNS servers dissapear on reboot (Static IP) 2) Audio sometimes works and sometimes doesn't at boot, have to reboot to get audio again.
[06:42] <JosefK> Lattyware: ffmpeg's probably the fastest way, but it really wouldn't cut down the size too much you know
[06:42] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: Did you mark it for installation in synaptic? Because to me it who's dependencies.
[06:42] <Lattyware> JosefK: It does when you have 250GB of anime.
[06:42] <reiki> ok I gotta ask one more time before I go try and do something stupid. this is after the edgy upgrade
[06:42] <reiki> I get a the splash and then a black screen. Recovery mode sees this: modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.17-10.386/modules.dep. No such file or directory.
[06:42] <Terminus> xenakis: i can't seem to find anything wrong with your conf. =|
[06:42] <Terminus> xenakis: must be something else.
[06:42] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: ye, it shows no dependancies
[06:43] <ripper> Terminus it looks fine to me aswell
[06:43] <JosefK> Lattyware: I've probably got more, not all of which is even dual audio though.  for the files that are, the second audio stream only takes up around 40/50mb
[06:43] <UKMatt> So I need to go to work and figured I'd read up on some stuff, does anyone know a really good site to teach you the bash commands (i think thats what they're cold, like chmod and all those) for Linux (Ubuntu)
[06:43] <Terminus> ripper: hehe. i gave my dad the PSC coz i had alignment problems with it and took the old deskjet. prints perfectly. =)
[06:43] <JosefK> Lattyware: hardly worth the effort to strip it
[06:43] <pi> hi guys, I've downloaded the iso of Edgy and now I'm looking for a label for my CD. Is there someone that have a link for download the label?
[06:43] <JosefK> Lattyware: the increase in filesize on dual-audio files is probably because the video on them is likely to be encoded better (those guys care more)
[06:44] <Boo> whoa auto connect
[06:44] <UKMatt> pi, the label?
[06:44] <Terminus> ripper: yeah. and if he can get to it through the web browser without a password, he shouldn't need one when printing either.
[06:44] <slytherin> ripper: Looks like you have messed with either kernel or grub.
[06:44] <pi> yes! to print on my cd!
[06:44] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: kuser does the EXACT same as users/groups in gnome, so still not what i need :<
[06:44] <rwscold> pi they will send you pressed discs if u want
[06:44] <Lattyware> JosefK: Still worth it for me. I have (according to animeDB) about 300 episodes of anime, so 50mb off about half of those (about half have dubs, say) gives me 15000mb. 15GB. Worth it.
[06:44] <UKMatt> pi, oh, I've never seen them available
[06:44] <ripper> Terminus i have a laserjet 6L , psc 1210V , photosmart 7200, officejet 5610v , and a deskjet 3520 :D
[06:44] <pi> ok
[06:44] <rwscold> pi i could scan you the one from dapper
[06:44] <ripper> slytherin nope
[06:45] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: Ok. Do you know what file you need to edit for achiving what you want?
[06:45] <UKMatt> pi, but yeah like rwscold said, they can send you one, I got one in the mail just so I could have a good copy fo the cd
[06:45] <Lattyware> uh, whoops, did it for the full amount, about 7.5GB
[06:45] <Lattyware> still worth it :P
[06:45] <pi> I will use my traditional pen! :-)
[06:45] <rwscold> good thinking :)
[06:45] <Boo> well while i'm here would anyone know how to network os x with the latest ubuntu? ive tried several different things but nothing seems to be working
[06:45] <UKMatt> Pi, Sharpie FTW
[06:45] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: something with smb in it? read something like that, but i discarded it as it seemed an aweful lot of work to simply set one folder
[06:45] <Lattyware> Plus when I play the anime I like to not have to switch to stream two at the beggining of each episode.
[06:45] <hangfire> sry for dumb question, but how do I start the installation process with edgy? With dapper it automatically goes into live CD mode, but with edgy I just get a message requesting to open apt get
[06:46] <drezha> I trying to download the new GnuCash, can anyone help? The one in synaptic is way out of date
[06:46] <ripper> all the listed printers are on my network and i cant print to and from all of them
[06:46] <hangfire> oh, wait! I guess I should reboot, boy Im an idiot today, sry for bother
[06:46] <ripper> openbsd, windows, and ubuntu setup here
[06:46] <slytherin> ripper: What is the entry in grub? Does it say Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic?
[06:47] <ripper> slytherin yes.
[06:47] <munzir> Hi, When I lock my session in kde I can't unlock it though the password is correct what's wrong please?
[06:47] <Terminus> xenakis: ripper didn't bother spending time to get my PSC1210 to work.
[06:47] <slytherin> munzir: Is caps lock on?
[06:48] <ripper> Terminus my psc1210 works great :D
[06:48] <munzir> slytherin: no no
[06:48] <Boo> hmm looks busy now so i guess ill ask later
[06:48] <Terminus> xenakis: just guessing here, can you comment out all the policy stuff? that might be what's preventing you.
[06:48] <xenakis> Terminus: not sure what you are telling me.
[06:48] <ripper> actually its not generic , its 386 @ grub kernel
[06:48] <flail> Hi - is there any way to apt-get install a package and download all of its dependencies, instead of having to insert the CD to get some from there?
[06:49] <ripper> Terminus policy isnt effecting me at all
[06:49] <harisund> Helloooo?? ? Where's /etc/inittab in edgy eft?
[06:49] <ripper> harisund try /etc/init.d/inittab
[06:49] <slytherin> ripper: It is possible that grub didn't get updated. How did you upgrade to edgy?
[06:49] <ripper> slytherin apt-get :)
[06:49] <Terminus> ripper: oh ok... i don't have any policy stuff here actually. =)
[06:50] <harisund> ripper there is no inittab in there either
[06:50] <slytherin> ripper: Exact command.
[06:50] <Terminus> xenakis: never mind. i'll think more about this first.
[06:50] <frederick85> bit torrent seems to have problems on my Ubuntu system, is there some way to fix it up
[06:50] <kent> flail: remove the CD from the list of sources to install from. I think you can do that from System->Admin-> somewhere..    By only having internet-sources you wont be asked for the cd
[06:50] <harisund> ripper there is no output for locate inittab.. this seriously is bad.
[06:50] <ripper> slytherin i changed all my sources to edgy and did an update, took alot of work but gheh i got it fixed
[06:50] <flail> Cheers kent - i'll check sources.list :)
[06:50] <Adriano> harisund: there's no inittab on edgy
[06:50] <xenakis> Terminus: tried commenting out the policy stuff and this made no difference. The hp-toolbox can't find the printer. I tried another non-hp driver and got the same results. Works locally. Doesn't work remotely.
[06:50] <ripper> harisund calm down
[06:50] <Adriano> leave me a minute and I'll tell you the file
[06:51] <MetaMorfoziS> in the edgy installer, what is the difference between normal and OEM insalling mode?
[06:51] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: how is it at all possible to set up complex permissions if you cant even assign 2 groups to the same map?
[06:51] <Adriano> what's the question?
[06:51] <harisund> Adriano I will be most thankful..  ripper .. calming down :)
[06:51] <kent> flail: great. the CD has a line in that file. just remove that, and run apt-get update  and you are fine
[06:51] <ripper> xenakis use hp drivers for hp printers.
[06:51] <harisund> Adriano I just want to remove the getty virtual terminals .. I don't want 6 of them running
[06:51] <flail> Done. Thanks kent ;)
[06:51] <StephenL> There is no inittab?
[06:51] <LabThug> Hmm, there aren't any liveCD images for Edgy?
[06:51] <Mirro> hey, somebody got SIM??
[06:51] <xenakis> ripper: yes I tried this already.
[06:51] <slytherin> pazemlsqdfmoj: No idea at all. I am no sysadmin
[06:51] <jrib> LabThug: the desktop cd is the installer as well as the live
[06:51] <Adriano> the equivalent to some? of inittab on Ubuntu is /etc/default/console-setup
[06:51] <wk> hello i need help with configuring the radeon driver under edgy for an ati radeon mobility rv250 (9000) M9... here is my error log: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4662/
[06:51] <LabThug> jrib: ahh, cool.  Thanks!
[06:51] <harisund> StephenL, do you know where the /etc/inittab file went?
[06:52] <pazemlsqdfmoj> anyone: suppose i have 2 groups: "Guests" "Classmates", i want everyone in "Guests" to be able to read only, those in "Classmates" to rw, how can i do this?
[06:52] <Adriano> I did the same this morning
[06:52] <ripper> xenakis read this. http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/Setting_Up_a_Network_Printer_using_CUPS
[06:52] <Adriano> had the same question
[06:52] <Adriano> so now you know
[06:52] <bobesponja> hey all
[06:52] <pak-x> i have installed wine? but where is it now? its not in the applicationlist
[06:52] <j00bar> i updated to edgy and now gimmie is complaining about problems finding libraries for egg -- i can't seem to find libegg on my system or in apt... did it get stripped somehow?
[06:52] <di> hi i get the error i8042.c: Can't read CTR while initialzing i8042, and my keyboard is 100%nonresponsive but ok in winxp
[06:53] <Mirro> SIM, anyone got SIM?
[06:53] <klaxian> is there something like gnome-screensaver for xubuntu?  should i install xscreensaver?
[06:53] <harisund> Adriano, my question is essentially this. A proces listing shows me plenty of crap I dont' need on my system, and I want to know whether Ubuntu allows users to customize it. I want to start by remoivng /sbin/getty . Any ideas?
[06:53] <bobesponja> I have a ubuntu 32bits that run on a dual core2 duo, I would like to upgrade to a 64bits ubuntu, is there a way to do so with apt-get dist-upgrade or do I need to reinstall the whole thing?
[06:53] <pazemlsqdfmoj> anyone: suppose i have 2 groups: "Guests" "Classmates", i want everyone in "Guests" to be able to read only, those in "Classmates" to rw, how can i do this?
[06:53] <xenakis> ripper: yep already tried that link too...
[06:53] <Adriano> edit the file I told you
[06:54] <harisund> Adriano .. ok .. what about removing ssh-agent. Do you know where I can do that?
[06:54] <ExilE> can anyone help with wpa_supplicant
[06:54] <ripper> xenakis im sure you wouldnt do it, but if you want to setup vnc i could take a peek at things, and see if i can get them to work for you if you'd like
[06:54] <slytherin> ripper: While on grub menu press e to enter edit mode then change every occurrence of 2.6.17-10-386 to 2.6.17-10-generic and try booting. If it works then change /boot/grub/menu.lst accordingly
[06:54] <Adriano> to remove the package, it's openssh-server, I guess
[06:54] <harisund> (Thanks for the /etc/default/console-setup. It must be documented somewhere. Ever since Linus wrote Linux there has been a /etc/inittab and now Ubuntu decides to dump it. What would have I done if it werent for you?)
[06:54] <ripper> slytherin wtf are you talking about my box works fine.
[06:55] <Adriano> if you want to disable it for your user sessions, use System - prefs - Sessions
[06:55] <markrian> I'm trying to 'upgrade' a Debian etch machine to Ubuntu 6.10, and I'm have some serious trouble. Is there a specific upgrade path that needs to be taken? Has anyone tried to do this?
[06:55] <jrib> pazemlsqdfmoj: you would have to use ACL's, you can't accomplish that with regular permissions: http://wiki.kaspersandberg.com/doku.php?id=howtos:acl and you'll have to set it up in ubuntu
[06:55] <bobesponja> anyone? :)
[06:55] <Tim90> Im trying to play a dvd with totem.i get a error saying Totem could not play 'file:///media/cdrom0/video_ts/video_ts.vob'.
[06:55] <Adriano> If you want to remove ssh without uninstalling it, go to /etc/rc2.d and read the README
[06:55] <slytherin> ripper: Oops.
[06:55] <Tim90> !totem
[06:55] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:56] <Adriano> bobesponja: I think it's better to do a clean reinstall
[06:56] <Tim90> !codecs
[06:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <michaels_> how do I mount my normal Ubuntu harddrive when running an Edgy LiveCD on the same machine?
[06:56] <slytherin> Tim90: Which DVD? Have you installed libdvdcss2? How exactly are you trying to play?
[06:56] <kung> hi there is there a ubuntu net install?
[06:57] <ripper> !install
[06:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:57] <pazemlsqdfmoj> jrib: is it really hard to set up? cause im not very pro at linux atm
[06:57] <Terminus> ripper: manpage says "The Require directive specifies that authentication is required for the resource." maybe that line in the policy section implicitly declares AuthType Basic even if it wasn't explicitly declared?
[06:57] <michaels_> erm scratch that, how do I mount my windows partition on an Edgy LiveCD?
[06:57] <Tim90> how do i instal  gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg and were do i get it from
[06:57] <michaels_> goddamn did I just confuse myself, let me rephrase as if I never said a thing:
[06:57] <harisund> Adriano: System - Preferences - Sessions doesnt' list ssh-agent. And no, it has nothign to do with a ssh-server being installed. And System->Preferences-Sessions sucks too, since I can't delete any of them, only disable them. If I can't delete them in the first place, why provide a button to delete that is always greyed out?
[06:57] <jrib> pazemlsqdfmoj: I've never done it so I can't tell you.  But I think it is as simple as installing a package.  Search the forums, that is where I remembered it from
[06:58] <jeldert> anyone installed Opera on Edgy? It needs libqt3c102-mt which does not exist
[06:58] <michaels_> how do I mount a partition on an Edgy LiveCD?
[06:58] <slytherin> Tim90: Why don't you just read that page aboput restrictedformats?
[06:58] <Madeye> Dapper is just great, why would I upgrade to Edgy
[06:58] <ripper> Terminus like i said, for initial setup auth may have to be used :)
[06:58] <jrib> !opera > jeldert
[06:58] <Adriano> harisund: the fourth tab there shows me ssh-agent
[06:58] <Tim90> i have it tells me to install codeccs
[06:58] <A[D] minS> what is the command of burning iso ?
[06:58] <Tim90> dont know were to get them,ill keep reading tho
[06:58] <gleesond> Madeye: because its new versions of all the software
[06:59] <pak-x> where can i find wine after installing? its not in my applicationlist
[06:59] <ripper> if thats what the logs are complaining about, add credintials where needed, and try to print. its not going to ask for a password every time you print.
[06:59] <Adriano> harisund: and I can eliminate it from there (the button is enabled)
[06:59] <Terminus> ripper, xenakis: how about just disabling policy for the sake of troubleshooting. it can always be enabled later. worst case scenario, we can eliminate it as the source of the problem. =)
[06:59] <harisund> Adriano fourth tab? All I see is 3 tabs (Session Options, Current Session, Startup Programs).
[06:59] <TC`> where to put my IP, dns, that internet trought LAN would work?
[06:59] <slytherin> Tim90: That same page has link about adding repositories and installing packages
[06:59] <TC`> :|
[06:59] <d_k> can i add xp to the grub menu if it doesnt add it by default?
[06:59] <Adriano> harisund: third
[06:59] <mlopes> hi. I've just installed edgy on a old machine (athlon 1400 and geforce 2 DDR). what do you suggest using? Xgl or AIGLX, Beryl or Compiz?
[06:59] <ripper> Terminus i had to auth when i setup my printers
[06:59] <Madeye> gleesond, yeah I understand, but if my current installation is stable and i'm happy with the installed applications, why would I do it
[06:59] <harisund> TC`, the DNS details go in /etc/resolv.conf and the IP details go in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:59] <slytherin> d_k: And why didn't it add by default?
[06:59] <Adriano> harisund: startup programs
[06:59] <ripper> Terminus i print every day, and never need a password though :)
[07:00] <d_k> slytherin, i dont know. : - (
[07:00] <xenakis> Terminus: I already tried that.
[07:00] <Terminus> ripper: so do i, but i've got a totally non-standard conf file with no policies. =)
[07:00] <slytherin> mlopes: Beryl + AIGLX
[07:00] <di> hi i get the error i8042.c: Can't read CTR while initialzing i8042, and my keyboard is 100%nonresponsive but ok in winxp
[07:00] <Adriano> pak-x: you need to install some app with wine, it doesn't necessarily show up on the menus
[07:00] <mlopes> slytherin, thks. opensource or proprietary drivers?
[07:00] <harisund> Adriano my startup programs has "update-notifier" '/usr/lib/evolution/2.8/evolution-alarm-notify" gnome-power-manager gnome-volume-manager --sm-disable.
[07:00] <Mirro> after installations of Edgy on Drake Update Manager wants to run Distribution Upgrade (mb sum pacages werent loaded), but it cant calculate upgrade.... what should i do?
[07:00] <xenakis> ripper, Terminus: where are the ppd files?
[07:00] <pazemlsqdfmoj> slytherin: i tried to run beryl yesterday, it was bugged to hell
[07:01] <pak-x> thanks, how can i do this?
[07:01] <slytherin> mlopes: Open drivers
[07:01] <TC`> so then internet will work on my desktop? ;]  couse i configure my ethernet card (put digits into it) that it could connect to proxy server
[07:01] <Adriano> general question: is Alacarte somewhere on the menus?
[07:01] <Tim90> slytherin,I tryed reading and clicking,with out secces in the end
[07:01] <mlopes> ok thks!
[07:01] <pazemlsqdfmoj> mlopes: i would advise compiz, based on my little knowledge so far ;)
[07:01] <Adriano> pak-x: why did you install wine for?
[07:01] <Tim90> can i lend some of you wisdom
[07:01] <xenakis> Terminus, ripper: where are the printer descriptions?
[07:01] <Terminus> xenakis: it's supposed to be in /usr/share/cups/model/
[07:01] <hilde> I'm tryieng to update gksu "update-manager -c" but it won't work
[07:01] <Adriano> harisund: I'd say, remove ssh-agent and reinstall, or try and upgrade things
[07:01] <pak-x> i wanna try 3dsmax, because when its not work, i cannot use ubuntu everytime ;-)
[07:01] <Terminus> xenakis: printers are in /etc/cups/printers.conf
[07:02] <Adriano> harisund: I got fresh gaim beta4 this morning
[07:02] <A[D] minS> how i can used  cdrecord to burn file.iso
[07:02] <TC`> so then internet will work on my desktop? ;]  couse i configure my ethernet card (put digits into it) that it could connect to proxy server?
[07:02] <A[D] minS> !cdrecord
[07:02] <ubotu> cdrecord: command line CD writing tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:2.01+01a03-5ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 567 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[07:02] <abbot45> i've got a directory with a ton of .rar archives in it.  can i unpack them all at once into the main directory without plugging in each file name?  unrar e * isn't working.
[07:02] <mormoloc> anybody having layer(turning on/off) problem in gimp after installing edgy?
[07:02] <slytherin> Tim90: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#head-82ee502162e81ddca57bfba9281ad97c39fd7fbe
[07:02] <Mirro>  after installations of Edgy on Drake Update Manager wants to run Distribution Upgrade (mb sum packages weren't loaded), but it cant calculate upgrade.... what should i do?
[07:02] <ExilE> can someone help i've been lookin at loads of forums on wpa_supplicant and they all say to add the line ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant but looking in the folder there isn't a file by this name is this whay i'm having trouble getting wpa_supplicant to connect
[07:02] <klaxian> how can i get my laptop to ask for a password after i close and re-open the lid? (xubuntu)
[07:03] <robertj_> is there an automated way to get my WINE start menu apps to show up under the gnome menu?
[07:03] <Adriano> pak-x: then try the setup program from that app from the CD with wine, you must learn to use wine, go to http://winehq.org
[07:03] <slytherin> Tim90: Read Before You Start section on RestrictedFormats page
[07:03] <pak-x> ok a wanna try it
[07:03] <Tim90> ok will do
[07:04] <Asturio> How to upgrade from ubuntu to xubuntu?
[07:04] <Tim90> i know how to use the add/remove
[07:04] <Adriano> pak-x: it also features a list of supported software
[07:04] <michaels_> why can't I write to a usb hd  when using an edgy livecd?
[07:04] <jatt> the ati propietary driver doesn't work with edgy anymore:
[07:04] <Adriano> !wine > pak-x
[07:04] <jatt> (EE) module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1)
[07:04] <jatt> (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
[07:04] <jatt> is there another version available?
[07:04] <klaxian> Asturio: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:04] <Adriano> !atm
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <A[D] minS> !cdrecord
[07:04] <ubotu> cdrecord: command line CD writing tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:2.01+01a03-5ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 567 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[07:04] <abbot45> can someone help?  i'm sure this has to be do-able.
[07:05] <abbot45> i've got a directory with a ton of .rar archives in it.  can i unpack them all at once into the main directory without plugging in each file name?  unrar e * isn't working.
[07:05] <A[D] minS> !howto cdrecord
[07:05] <harisund> Adriano, ok one last annoyance. Do you know how to turn off the fading of the screen when I want to shutdown/log out etc?
[07:05] <Mirro>  after installations of Edgy on Drake Update Manager wants to run Distribution Upgrade (mb sum packages weren't loaded), but it cant calculate upgrade.... what should i do?
[07:05] <Adriano> harisund: no clue
[07:05] <itsx> hi ubuntu!:)
[07:05] <Asturio> klaxian: Thanks... do I need to change the reposipories in /etc/apt/source.list??
[07:05] <xenakis> Terminus, ripper: when I try to do admin on cups from the web interface it asks for username and password. My own username and password do not work. What is it looking for?
[07:06] <klaxian> Asturio: noper
[07:06] <Terminus> xenakis: this might matter, or it might not. i'm not familiar with an LJ4, but did you use the hplip port for configuration or usb/parallel?
[07:06] <michaels_> how do I make an automounted usb disk writable when booted from an edgy CD as livecd?
[07:06] <Asturio> klaxian: ok... thanks
[07:06] <harisund> Ok thanks anyway Adraino
[07:06] <Terminus> xenakis: are you a user of lpadmin?
[07:06] <xenakis> Terminus: the hplip port said it detected no Hp printers. This printer is OLD.
[07:06] <harish> hi.  i am downloading 6.10 right now and am wondering if the kernel is 2.6.18?
[07:07] <A[D] minS> how i can use cdrecord to burn file.iso ? ???????
[07:07] <sledge_at_work> harish: it's 2.6.17
[07:07] <Adriano> harish: no, 2.6,.18
[07:07] <Adriano> *17
[07:07] <sdali> Hi all - My mouse is dbl-clking when I single clk. I've swapped mouses, switched from PS/2 to USB, and minimized the dbl-clk timeout, but the prob remains. Any ideas? Please!
[07:07] <harish> thanks.
[07:07] <itsx> i have prob with instalation.i had to install cpp package (really necessary) but symaptic remove vim package...and it very bad for me:) what can i do?
[07:07] <di> hi i get the error i8042.c: Can't read CTR while initialzing i8042, and my keyboard is 100%nonresponsive but ok in winxp
[07:07] <Asturio> A[D] minS: cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrecord speed=<> file.iso should do
[07:08] <michaels_> please someone, why can't I write to my disks when I'm running a livecd?
[07:08] <Terminus> xenakis: so hp-probe doesn't give you anything?
[07:08] <ianmacgregor> sdali: In nautilus?
[07:08] <d_k> if grub doesnt include my XP partition is it okay to just edit menu.lst?
[07:08] <Sivik> michaels_, what do you mean write to you discs
[07:08] <xenakis> Terminus: correct.
[07:08] <Sivik> d_k, ye
[07:08] <aMohammed> hey guys , I've some questions regarding installation .. could some body chat with me in private ?
[07:08] <Sivik> aMohammed, what kind of questions
[07:09] <michaels_> I can't create folders or paste stuff or anything onto my usb disk (or anywhere else)...
[07:09] <harish> i was testing my netgear ma401 wifi card on fc6 but i had to set the IP# via dhclient wlan0 instead of wifi0.  fc6 is using 2.6.18 and I suspect something about hostap is causing some confusion.  i guess i will find out soon with 6.10.
[07:09] <Sivik> michaels_, thats normal for a livecd
[07:09] <ianmacgregor> sdali: Edit -> Preferences, Behaviour tab, Behaviour section ?
[07:09] <Mirro> %C13 after installations of Edgy on Drake Update Manager wants to run Distribution Upgrade (mb sum packages weren't loaded), but it cant calculate upgrade.... what should i do?
[07:09] <Mirro> %C13 after installations of Edgy on Drake Update Manager wants to run Distribution Upgrade (mb sum packages weren't loaded), but it cant calculate upgrade.... what should i do? %C13
[07:09] <aMohammed> CD !! everytime I burn ubuntu alternate 6.10 cd and check it for defects , it says cd integrity isn't ok
[07:09] <sdali> ianmacgregor: Sorry, yes, Nautilus.
[07:09] <michaels_> Sivik: how do I make the livecd let me paste stuff on the usbdisk? I'm only using this usbdisk to back up data before reformatting and installing edgy afresh.
[07:09] <aMohammed> even though the md5 for iso file is ok
[07:09] <Sivik> aMohammed, the cd integrity is fubared
[07:10] <Sivik> michaels_, did you mount the usb disc
[07:10] <ianmacgregor> sdali: In nautilus, have you tried Edit -> Preferences, Behaviour tab, Behaviour section ?
[07:10] <Terminus> xenakis: hmmmm... i'm out of ideas. i'm just staring at http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_4
[07:10] <Sivik> aMohammed, ignore it, there is a bug in it
[07:10] <michaels_> Sivik: it automounts. that's all I can seem to get out of it.
[07:10] <mjelva> when compiling lirc-modules-source with make-kpkg, should the modules/lirc folder be in /usr/src or /usr/src/linux-source-X?
[07:10] <porkpie> hi guy's I am trying to do a echo "bnx2" >> /etc/mkinitramfs/module on the latest realease but I get cannot create  blalalal  directory nonoexistent   what has replaced this
[07:10] <aMohammed> so , I don't start installation from cd then ?
[07:10] <di> hi i get the error i8042.c: Can't read CTR while initialzing i8042, and my keyboard is nonresponsive but ok in winxp
[07:10] <Sivik> hum, then you should be able to paste to it, are you pasting from konsole/terminla or drag and dropping
[07:10] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[07:10] <sdali> ianmacgregor: Lemme try it now.
[07:10] <Sivik> aMohammed, just don't do the disc check
[07:11] <di> i installed edgy  server
[07:11] <Sivik> di, ok
[07:11] <michaels_> Sivik: drag-n-dropping.
[07:11] <di> and it seems that the acpi has a bug
[07:11] <aMohammed> ok , thanks
[07:11] <shadeofgrey> whats the deal -- arstechnica is running a story on their homepage saying that edgy is out and available for download...  does that mean its a beta version or full milestone release?
[07:11] <Sivik> michaels_, try doing it from terminal, you probably don't have the correct permissions to do it it in natuilus
[07:11] <Nem|ltop> Flannel, hey you there?
[07:11] <Sivik> di, that bug has been there a while
[07:11] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, did you ever get your stuff fixed
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> How do I add a USB printer from the command line?
[07:12] <Nem|ltop> sure did
[07:12] <Adriano> shadeofgrey: read the topic
[07:12] <di> Sivik: acpi=off does not work
[07:12] <Nem|ltop> i feel really stupid when i found out the issue
[07:12] <di> Sivik: neither does safe mode
[07:12] <aMohammed> which better , to upgrade my ubuntu 6.0.6 to 6.10 .. or to do clean isntallation with 6.10 cd .. I haven't installed both of them yet
[07:12] <aMohammed> I just wanna start
[07:12] <Nem|ltop> Sivik, maybe you can help, how do i set the root password? i never remember setting it during installation, but i need to do some stuff that requires root
[07:12] <Sivik> di, no apci when you boot
[07:12] <michaels_> ah, thanks Sivik, just didn't have the permissions, hehe
[07:12] <sdali> ianmacgregor: All nautilus gives me is a "dbl click to select items" choice. The problem is that my single clks are being interpreted as dbl clks, even after I've decreased the dlb-clk timeout to 100mS.
[07:12] <FlimFlamMan> how, in the name of sweet jesus, do i remove from apt all knowledge of a certain package?
[07:12] <Terminus> Nem|ltop: use sudo -i to become root.
[07:13] <di> aMohammed: depends, do you have data in your 6.06? if so its more convinent to upgrade
[07:13] <Terminus> Nem|ltop: use your user's password.
[07:13] <di> Sivik: disable it?
[07:13] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, its actually sudo su
[07:13] <Sivik> di= no apci in your boot parameters
[07:13] <holyprepuce> maybe someone could explain kde vs ubuntu etc.?
[07:13] <di> Sivik: acpi=off?
[07:13] <kmaynard> !kde
[07:13] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[07:13] <harisund> I have a quick question. Ubuntu disables root account. That means if I want to copy something over scp that requires root permissions, I will have to copy it as regular user, and then use sudo within a ssh session, right? For example I want to copy a /etc/... configuration file from one machine to another machine .
[07:13] <kmaynard> !gnome
[07:13] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[07:13] <Nem|ltop> alright thanks
[07:13] <LjL> Sivik: "sudo su"? why?
[07:13] <Artemis3> kde = kubuntu
[07:14] <ianmacgregor> Nem|ltop: You don't set a root password. The root account is locked by default and for good reason. You don't even need to ever log into the root account.
[07:14] <Nem|ltop> Sivik, is it going to be a problem getting a USB wireless adapter working in ubuntu
[07:14] <ianmacgregor> !sudo | Nem|ltop
[07:14] <ubotu> Nem|ltop: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:14] <di> LjL: mabe because su is locked
[07:14] <holyprepuce> so gnome comes with the standard ubuntu?
[07:14] <Sivik> harisund: when doing that, before you do anything do something like sudo cp
[07:14] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, no
[07:14] <Artemis3> ubuntu yes and xubuntu xfce
[07:14] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, it shouldn't be all that hard
[07:14] <Nem|ltop> phew
[07:14] <LjL> di: yes, but i don't know of any reason to use "sudo su". this would have a similar effect to "sudo -i", which is the supported way to become root for more than a single command
[07:14] <aMohammed> no , as I mentioned , a clean installation
[07:15] <harisund> Sivik that doesn't answer my problem. My question is I want to transfer /etc/some_software.conf from my Fedora box to my Ubuntu box. Can I do it one step?
[07:15] <di> holyprepuce: ubuntu comes with a customised gnome, a "human" theme and special logout/restart/shutwoen screen
[07:15] <Sivik> holycow, with ubuntu, but with kubuntu its kde and xubuntu is xfce
[07:15] <di> Sivik: acpi=off? still no use
[07:15] <Artemis3> wo hoho
[07:15] <kuja> If I pointed my main and restricted repositories to Edgy (from Dapper), is upgrading my distribution as simple as `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`?
[07:15] <Terminus> xenakis: i'm really sorry i wasn't able to help you get your printer working. i gotta crash now. really tired.
[07:15] <deema> hey guys
[07:15] <Sivik> di: no, its no apci
[07:15] <[Kork] > hi
[07:15] <shadeofgrey> okay so can someone please point me to a url that contains the best sources.list file for edgy that includes the soiftware thats not officially supported so i can download things like beeep-media-player etc etc..  i think they're refered to as multiverse and universe repos?
[07:15] <shadeofgrey> also
[07:15] <Nem|ltop> Sivik, okay so my problem was that menu.lst was trying to boot from hd(2,2) and the correct partition was hd(0,2), so what do i need to change in menu.lst besides root to get that working
[07:15] <[Kork] > just upgraded to ubuntu 6.10, got a problem now
[07:15] <di> Sivik: oh acpi is not the issue?
[07:15] <Sivik> shadeofgrey, use http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse
[07:15] <[Kork] > imwheel won't work
[07:16] <Nem|ltop> Sivik, should i change any values for "map"
[07:16] <[Kork] > any ideas?
[07:16] <harisund> Sivik you got my point?
[07:16] <Artemis3> search the evil unsupported and unaproved ubuntuguide ;)
[07:16] <shadeofgrey> can someone please drop kick me in the direction of information vital to enabling the use of PCMCIA wireless network adapters?
[07:16] <deema> I got a little problem. in mouse preferences, sensitivity bar doesn't do anything!
[07:16] <roconda> hi, my Xorg wont start after I upgraded dapper drake to edgy... can someone help me ? :)
[07:16] <xenakis> Terminus: yep. Well thanks for trying. It's times like this that I question my choice for Linux.
[07:16] <d_k> Sivik, can i just edit /boot/grub/grub.conf with gedit or should i do it from grub?
[07:16] <Tim90> after intalling codecs do i have to reboot ?
[07:16] <Sivik> d_k, i would try doing it from grub before you edit the grub.conf file
[07:16] <sdali> deema - I've got a mouse prob too. What's yours?
[07:16] <Sivik> Tim90, no
[07:16] <shadeofgrey> Sivik: actually id appreciate being pointed in the direction of the best full sources.list file available
[07:17] <roconda> My Xorg says something about "cannot load screen" who can help me ?
[07:17] <deema> Raser Diamondback
[07:17] <Sivik> shadeofgrey, there isn't one
[07:17] <porkpie> How do i install mkinitramfs from the install  ...I am in a terminal and have chroot /target ?
[07:17] <d_k> Sivik, do what from grub? edit the file? how?
[07:17] <Sivik> roconda, did you reinstall your video drives
[07:17] <shadeofgrey> yes there is.  there always is in the pastebin
[07:17] <Sivik> d_k, at grub, hit e
[07:17] <harisund> Does anybody know if I can do a file transfer that involves root permission in one step?
[07:17] <deema> my mouse preferences sensitivity bar doesn't change the sensitivity!
[07:17] <Terminus> xenakis: i'm sure you'll get it working eventually. i just can't figure out what your problem is. i never had printing problems before. =|
[07:17] <roconda> Sivik: uhm no
[07:17] <[-NoX-] > !seen Celeste
[07:17] <ubotu> Celeste is on IRC right now!
[07:17] <Sivik> roconda, you have to
[07:17] <Terminus> xenakis: all i know is what i did to get mine working.
[07:17] <di> i think everyone is overloading Sicik
[07:17] <[-NoX-] > gn.
[07:17] <di> 'Sivik
[07:17] <roconda> Sivik: how are they called for nvidia?
[07:17] <ianmacgregor> harisund: sudo cp ?
[07:17] <d_k> Sivik, unrecognized command
[07:17] <xenakis> Terminus: is there a place where you specify what users are allowed to use the printer?
[07:18] <Sivik> roconda, uh, sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[07:18] <harisund> ianmacgregor, aaaah .. no. I have /etc/proftpd.conf on my Fedora box, which I want to move to /etc/proftpd.conf on my Ubuntu box. Can I do it in one step?
[07:18] <Terminus> xenakis: it's the Require user line
[07:18] <Sivik> d_k, give me a second
[07:18] <Nem|ltop> Sivik, for my windows partition in menu.lst, it says map (hd0) (hd2) and then map (hd2) (hd0), should i change those values?
[07:18] <xenakis> Terminus: also is there a place where you can tell cupsys whether or not to run as root?
[07:18] <di> LjL: sudo -i should work too
[07:18] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, i wouldn't sugest it
[07:18] <ianmacgregor> harisund: Are you able to mount the fedora partition in your Ubuntu?
[07:18] <kuja> Heh, If I have an edgy ISO, what's the simplest way of upgrading my dapper without burning it to CD?
[07:18] <Languid> if i have ubuntu dapper installed on an intel core 2 duo laptop, and have linux-686-smp already installed, will i have any problems upgrading to edgy (as i've heard there have been problems with people installing edgy on core 2 duo's)?
[07:18] <Sivik> kuja, dist-upgrade
[07:19] <Nem|ltop> Sivik, okay but i did change hd2,0 to hd0,0, but i still shouldn't touch those 2 map things?
[07:19] <sdali> We've got different probelms then. My prob is that my single clks are interpreted as dbl clks.
[07:19] <Xyphosura> I have an issue with the opensource radeon drivers for my ati9250. Whenever i start a 3d application i get this error: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[07:19] <Xyphosura> drmCommandWrite: -22 drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting). Is this the same bug as described in this topic: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234078? What can i do about it?
[07:19] <harisund> ianmacgregor, eh? no . I can't. They are on two seperate networks not easily accessible except through ssh.
[07:19] <kuja> Sivik: Mount the ISO, repoint my repositories, update, and dist-upgrade?
[07:19] <test0012> What is the difference between fakeroot and sudo?
[07:19] <Nem|ltop> Sivik, erm hd2,2 to hd0,2***
[07:19] <harisund> test0012, fakeroot doesnt allow you to create files
[07:19] <Terminus> xenakis: cupsys already runs under the user cupsys here.
[07:19] <ianmacgregor> harisund: You can do it via ssh with scp
[07:19] <markrian> I've gotten half-way through upgrading Debian etch to Ubuntu edgy. After booting with the edgy kernel, several things don't work, most annoyingly is networking
[07:19] <harisund> ianmacgregor, then I would need two steps..
[07:19] <deema> what's the point of fakeroot?
[07:19] <Terminus> xenakis: dapper should have done that from the very beginning.
[07:19] <xenakis> Terminus: so could there be a permissions issue?
[07:19] <markrian> Even the loopback device lo doesn't exist. Does anyone know how to invoke it?
[07:19] <adamhorden> Hi, I have upgraded to egy but I have a problem with the Users and Group utility on the system menu. It only displays 1 user on my system when I have more. How can I make it show all users on my system?
[07:20] <Sivik> kuja: the cd doesn't even need to be mounted, just changed the sources.list file from dapper to edgy and then apt-get update, and apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:20] <harisund> deema, good question. I have only foudn a need for it while compiling a new kernel, and that too only because the documentation says so.
[07:20] <kuja> Sivik: I don't have a net connection at home.
[07:20] <di> kuja: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/upgrading-ubuntu-from-dapper-to-edgy-with-update-manager/
[07:20] <ianmacgregor> harisund: If you are at the Ubuntu box: scp user@host:/path/to/file /path/to/target (where target is a /path/file on the Ubuntu box)
[07:20] <Sivik> kuja: then you have to use a cd
[07:20] <roconda> Sivik: still the same error
[07:20] <di> kuja: oops
[07:20] <kuja> Sivik: Can't I just mount the ISO and point my repositories there?
[07:20] <harisund> ianmacgregor, yeah but what is the /path/to/target on the Ubuntu box is in /etc ???
[07:20] <ianmacgregor> harisund: scp = secure copy, you only need on step if using scp
[07:20] <Sivik> kuja: not sure, never done it
[07:20] <Terminus> xenakis: i don't see how.
[07:20] <Tim90> toment could not play dvd;media/cdrom0
[07:20] <Sivik> roconda, pm me
[07:20] <kuja> I assume the only upgrading to edgy I'll need is main and restricted sections
[07:20] <Tim90> ??
[07:20] <di> kuja: try getting a net connection at a friend's place or sth
[07:20] <Tim90> confused
[07:21] <Sivik> kuja: yes
[07:21] <mattl> anyone here using Beryl on a PowerBook G4?
[07:21] <kuja> di: Try offering more logical solutions
[07:21] <kuja> There's a problem, there needs to be an answer.
[07:21] <kuja> Sivik: Thanks
[07:21] <harisund> ianmacgregor, no. I will have to first copy as a regular user into somewhere in my home directory then use sudo cp to move it into my /etc.
[07:21] <ianmacgregor> harisund: You can "target" anywhere and then just cp to the proper dir, or you can scp blah blah /etc
[07:21] <di> kuja: thats a resources problem, not a technical one
[07:21] <Nem|ltop> Sivik, where should i be looking for dwl-g132 USB wireless adapter drivers?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> kuja: you can only use a CD to upgrade if you have the "alternate" Cd. and the command is  sudo apt-cdrom add
[07:21] <easytiger> whats the best alternative to the gnome panel?
[07:21] <Languid> if i have ubuntu dapper installed on an intel core 2 duo laptop, and have linux-686-smp already installed, will i have any problems upgrading to edgy (as i've heard there have been problems with people installing edgy on core 2 duo's)?  anyone?
[07:21] <kuja> deb file:///mnt/edgy main restricted
[07:21] <di> kuja: no net, very inconvinent
[07:21] <harisund> ianmacgregor, ok never mind. I will just enable my root account. Sorry for troubling you :)
[07:21] <Sivik> easytiger, kcontrol
[07:21] <kuja> That's probably what I'll do at home.
[07:21] <Terminus> xenakis: if your cupsys is running as root, it shouldn't even have any perm problem. you'd only run into that if it's not root and it can't access a device or something.
[07:21] <Sivik> d_k, weren't you having the problem with grub and apci
[07:22] <kuja> thoreauputic: I don't have a burner available, I'm just grabbing the ISO.
[07:22] <ianmacgregor> harisund: It's not a good idea to enable the root account.. this can be done without the root account being enabled.
[07:22] <easytiger> Sivik: kde control center?
[07:22] <di> Sivik: if its not acpi whats the issue?
[07:22] <kuja> I plan on mounting it and changing my sources.list with the above deb line.
[07:22] <d_k> Sivik, apci?
[07:22] <d_k> no
[07:22] <d_k> Sivik, only grub :-)
[07:22] <harisund> ianmacgregor, why is it not a good idea to enable root account?
[07:22] <xenakis> Terminus: the error log is saying "Local authentication certificate not found!" Does  this tell as anything. This is the server log.
[07:22] <Sivik> di: when you get to grub, it should say 'e' to edit the command before booting
[07:22] <di> kuja: that woould work
[07:22] <sdali> ianmacgregor: So since my single-clks are being interpreted as dbl clks, and I've tried changing HW and adjusting the timeout to the minimum, could this be a prob with the mouse driver for my motherboard? I'm thinking that I may need to tweak the debounce times in the driver. Sound reasonable to you?
[07:22] <thoreauputic> kuja: I've never tried it, but you might be able to loop mount your iso and add it as a source that way
[07:22] <ianmacgregor> !sudo | harisund
[07:22] <ubotu> harisund: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:22] <di> Sivik: ys
[07:22] <Cyraq> PREPARE TO BE ZOMGIZED.
[07:22] <test0012> harisund, so when should i use fakeroot? i read "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot" somewhere, if fakeroot doesn't allow file creation, why use -rfakeroot here?
[07:22] <Terminus> xenakis: looks like ssl if it's looking for a certificate.
[07:22] <Xyphosura> I have an issue with the opensource radeon drivers for my ati9250. Whenever i start a 3d application i get this error: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4 brmCommandWrite: -22 drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting). Is this the same bug as described in this topic: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234078? What can i do about it?
[07:22] <d_k> Sivik, Linux boots alright, but grub wont list XP
[07:23] <thoreauputic> kuja: but note that only the alternate iso has packages on it
[07:23] <Sivik> d_k, did yo install grub on the mbr?
[07:23] <di> !dualboot
[07:23] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:23] <kuja> thoreauputic: "alternate?"
[07:23] <di> d_k: try !dualboot
[07:23] <harisund> test0012, dpkg-buildpackage needs a root environment, but nowhere is it doing any writing. By using the -r fake root flag you are telling it how to acquire a root environment where it can think it is root and proceed normally.
[07:23] <thoreauputic> kuja: there are two iso choices - desktop and alternate
[07:23] <Sivik> thoreauputic, actually there are more than those two
[07:23] <kuja> Oh, crap. I grabbed desktop.
[07:24] <di> i think that alternate installs faster
[07:24] <thoreauputic> Sivik: yes I know - I'm keeping it simple
[07:24] <Terminus> xenakis: and ssl is not enabled by default.
[07:24] <harisund> ianmacgregor, yeah yeah I know the routine. just that I am a long time Linux user, and like to do things the traditional way. Now if enabling root account breaks Ubuntu in anyway that's a pain. But if you are only mentioning so for security reasons and such, I am fine, no problem.
[07:24] <di> the livecd install is a waste of time
[07:24] <kuja> Desktop, Server, and Alternate
[07:24] <thoreauputic> Sivik: there are *quite* a few in fact
[07:24] <Sivik> thoreauputic, ok, just making sure
[07:24] <kuja> What does Alternate have in it?
[07:24] <xenakis> Terminus: I don't see how ssh and cups are related.
[07:24] <Sivik> kuja: no, server is on the alternative
[07:24] <d_k> Sivik, i'm not sure, this is the fdisk output: http://pastebin.ca/224928
[07:24] <di> kuja: text-mode install i think
[07:24] <d_k> !dualboot
[07:24] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:24] <di> kuja: like debian
[07:24] <kuja> Should I get both Desktop *and* Alternate?
[07:24] <blue999> choo all
[07:24] <flail> Hmm.. I've just installed beryl, and when I type beryl-manager the whole thing locks up
[07:25] <thoreauputic> Sivik: I'm currently seefing torrents for four different edgy iso s here :)
[07:25] <ArtVandalae> I think Cyraq might be a bot
[07:25] <ianmacgregor> harisund: Yeah, I was mentioning it for security reasons and also because enabling the root account is not supported :)
[07:25] <thoreauputic> *seeding
[07:25] <kuja> To have more packages available to me
[07:25] <blue999> someone of u uses Turboprint?
[07:25] <di> kuja: just one to install a desktop
[07:25] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody please tellme a good cd grabber
[07:25] <flail> I've installed emerald-themes too
[07:25] <kuja> Or does Alternate have all the packages Desktop and Server has?
[07:25] <di> kuja: whats ur machine?
[07:25] <Sivik> kuja: if you want alot of stuff, download the dvd
[07:25] <see> anybodyu with experience of installing ubuntu on a macpro, have a problem with the cdrom: it complains hda: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)  googled it but cant really get what is the problem.
[07:25] <flail> MetaMorfoziS - audio cd ripper?
[07:25] <Terminus> xenakis: ssl, not ssh.
[07:25] <infbliss> MetaMorfoziS: grip
[07:25] <harisund> ianmacgregor, supported by what? You mean if I have the Canonical official support and I enable root account canonical won't support?
[07:25] <test0012> harisund, ic, but it still sounds odd to me... so in what case for a human need use fakeroot?
[07:25] <optimusprime> anyone having troubles with flash in Firefox 2.0?
[07:25] <Sivik> if i'm helping you, please send me a pm
[07:25] <Sivik> optimusprime, no
[07:25] <harisund> test0012, hehe .. good question. You would never really use fakeroot as a stand alone tool like sudo
[07:25] <ianmacgregor> harisund: If you're a long time Linux user, you should be able to do it without the root account ;)
[07:25] <Seb> wow
[07:25] <kuja> di: i383
[07:25] <Terminus> xenakis: it's for encrypting from client to server.
[07:25] <di> kuja: alternate OEM should be faster to install than the live cd, and the live cd cant be used well with slower machines
[07:26] <kuja> 6
[07:26] <kuja> 61
[07:26] <kuja> 1
[07:26] <Sivik> optimusprime, did you install the flashplugin-nonfree
[07:26] <kuja> Sorry
[07:26] <thoreauputic> kuja:  desktop = live CD with installer , alternate = text installer CD with full packages
[07:26] <flail> MetaMorfoziS: there's also Serpentine
[07:26] <xenakis> Terminus: so is there something for me to try here?
[07:26] <test0012> harisund, thank you.
[07:26] <optimusprime> yeah I did
[07:26] <optimusprime> still nothing....
[07:26] <di> Sivik: yes, i used acpi = off in grub
[07:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> whats the latest version of kiba-dock?
[07:26] <harisund> ianmacgregor, yes, there are plenty of ways it can be done without root. I could do --> sudo sh -c "scp remote:file local:file" for starters
[07:26] <optimusprime> Opera works fine....
[07:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> and is that in the repositories
[07:26] <Sivik> di: can i see your output for grub
[07:26] <Cyraq> YOU ARE ALL BEING ZOMGIZED!
[07:26] <thoreauputic> Cyraq: skip the yelling, please
[07:26] <Sivik> di: what is the error when you are loading the os
[07:27] <ianmacgregor> harisund: Yes, and then sudo cp or sudo mv
[07:27] <Artemis3> hm spam?
[07:27] <roconda> Sivik: can you pm?
[07:27] <Sivik> yes
[07:27] <Sivik> please
[07:27] <deema> anybody else here have had issues adjusting mouse sensitivity? the bar doesn't do anything.
[07:27] <di> Sivik: no output from grub, boots Ok except for "i8042.c: can't read CTR while initializing i8042"
[07:27] <blue999> someone of u uses Turboprint? PLEASE
[07:27] <agliodbs> you know, I get more /msg spam because of this channel ....
[07:27] <di> blue999: whats ur printer
[07:27] <Sivik> di: try searching on that at google
[07:27] <munzir> Hi, can some one tell me whether /usr/bin/kcheckpass is setuid or not in a fresh installation of edgy?
[07:27] <kuja> di: I really don't need installers. I need the packages, as I am merely going to be pointing repositories and doing a dist-ugprade
[07:27] <Terminus> xenakis: i can't think of anything for you to try. your config is close to what i have and mine works.
[07:27] <Nem|ltop> anyone know how i should go about installing drivers for my d-link USB wireless adapter?
[07:27] <blue999> canon pixma mp150
[07:28] <blue999> di
[07:28] <agliodbs> logging off ...
[07:28] <di> Sivik: yes, they said do acpi=off, but no diff
[07:28] <easytiger> operas menu fonts are all displaying wrong after the upgrade... and help?
[07:28] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, you might want to search for those online
[07:28] <di> blue999
[07:28] <LjL> !caps | cyraq
[07:28] <ubotu> cyraq: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:28] <blue999> is the only way to do that it works
[07:28] <flail> Hmm.. I've just installed beryl, and when I type beryl-manager the whole thing locks up - is anyone else experiencing this?
[07:28] <easytiger> !beryl
[07:28] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[07:28] <Nem|ltop> Sivik, got any search suggestions? am i searching for the model number of the adapter or something?
[07:28] <Sivik> di: not sure then, i had to add "no acpi" to my grub line (without the ")
[07:28] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, yes
[07:28] <bipolar> Cyraq is /msg spaming people in this channel
[07:29] <blue999> di u have any solution?
[07:29] <cga> Cyraq, obt?
[07:29] <kuja> Okay, the DVD is too big to put on my iPod, lol.
[07:29] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, model number
[07:29] <Nem|ltop> Sivik, should i just search for linux dwl-g132 drivers or ubuntu dwl-g132 drivers?
[07:29] <Sivik> linux
[07:29] <Nem|ltop> k
[07:29] <Xyphosura> I have an issue with the opensource radeon drivers for my ati9250. Whenever i start a 3d application i get this error: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4 brmCommandWrite: -22 drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting). Is this the same bug as described in this topic: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234078? Any help?
[07:29] <kuja> So if I were to grab CD images, I only need "alternate" in order to do a full edgy upgrade?
[07:29] <chalcedony> Cyraq: messaged me too
[07:29] <BelialMkII> yup
[07:30] <BelialMkII> me to
[07:30] <di> blue999: whats ur printer model
[07:30] <thoreauputic> I removed him - we'll see if he takes the hint
[07:30] <blue999> i said u
[07:30] <sdali> I want to tweak the settings in mouse_drv.so (the C file really), so I can get rid of a mouse dbl-clk problem I'm having. Anyone know which dev pkgs I need to get the sources?
[07:30] <blue999> canon pixma mp 150
[07:30] <chalcedony> ty thoreauputic :)
[07:30] <Nem|ltop> hmm ithink i found it
[07:30] <blue999> cups doesn't support it without turboprint
[07:30] <kuja> Does "alternate" have Xgl/compiz too? :)
[07:30] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, good
[07:30] <d_k> di, the guides all say that ubuntu should auto detect the windows partition
[07:30] <blue999> (i believe)
[07:30] <d_k> Sivik, any idea?
[07:31] <Sivik> d_k, did you install grub on the MBR
[07:31] <d_k> how can i know?
[07:31] <Sivik> d_k, during the install, it should have said did you want to add the grub to MBR because windows xp was detected
[07:31] <d_k> Sivik, fdisk -l will help you?
[07:31] <Crembo> !ipv6
[07:31] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:31] <Sivik> d_k, no
[07:31] <d_k> what command must i run to see if its on the mbr?
[07:31] <Sivik> d_k, that doesn't tell me where the thingy is added
[07:32] <di> blue999: your only hope to get this printer supported is turboprint, since: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_MP150
[07:32] <Sivik> d_k, actually, let me see the fdisk -l
[07:32] <Sivik> d_k: i already am looking at it
[07:32] <blue999> di it's supported
[07:32] <Sivik> d_k: let me look at mine to see if its the same
[07:32] <blue999> BUT my problem is that it's print a logo of DEMO version
[07:32] <blue999> even if i entered the serial
[07:32] <blue999> for fullversion
[07:32] <magni_> anyone that uses matlab on ubuntu? Having some problems...
[07:32] <di> i think u need to buy tp
[07:32] <blue999> and it recongnize my serial as good
[07:33] <porkpie> gguys how do I add the bnx2 driver to the modules
[07:33] <blue999> i bought it
[07:33] <Sivik> blue999, don't use caps
[07:33] <demio> hello
[07:33] <blue999> k Sivik
[07:33] <evilmegaman> Hi, after I install ubuntu 6.10, GRUB doesn't start and I get an NTLDR is missing error. I have to reboot with the ubuntu CD in the drive
[07:33] <evilmegaman> any ideas?
[07:33] <di> Sivik: u sure no acpi is a valin kernel parameter?
[07:34] <kuja> How do I mount an Ubuntu CD image?
[07:34] <pazemlsqdfmoj> i installed eiciel to use ACL, but when i add a group called apache to the www folder (rwx), i still cant modify the folder though the user im logged in as, is in the apache group?
[07:34] <hckrSid> Hi ppl... anyone have trouble with the ati driver for starting X?
[07:34] <deema> anybody else here have had issues adjusting mouse sensitivity? the bar doesn't do anything.
[07:34] <Sivik> hckrSid, what card?
[07:34] <Sivik> demma: if no on answers, thats probably a no
[07:34] <hckrSid> Sivik: I have an ATI Radeon
[07:34] <kuja> I wonder, if sudo mount -o loop edgy.iso /mnt/edgy is enough :P
[07:34] <Sivik> hckrSid, which one
[07:34] <di> evilmegaman: is that a windows error?
[07:34] <kuja> I can't try at the moment, and I don't want to go home and not know :(
[07:35] <mlopes> hi. how can I install the nvidia legacy drivers on edgy? I installed the package nvidia-glx-legacy and did nvidia-config enable
[07:35] <evilmegaman> Yeah di
[07:35] <easytiger> yea beryl freezes up ong efty
[07:35] <mlopes> also, I manually changed xorg.conf to start using nvidia instead of nv
[07:35] <infbliss> kuja:mount -r /home/user/file.iso /home/user/iso -t iso9660 -o loop
[07:35] <mlopes> still not working though
[07:35] <mlopes> at least glxgears can't run correctly
[07:35] <kuja> infbliss: Thanks :D
[07:35] <di> evilmegaman: do u get a grub menu?
[07:35] <hckrSid> Sivik: Mobility U1
[07:35] <Sivik> mlopes, did you restart the x by either rebooting the machine or doing ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:35] <mlopes> Sivik, yes I did
[07:35] <evilmegaman> di, GRUB starts when I use the ubuntu CD to boot from hard drisk
[07:35] <Sivik> hckrSid, i have a 200m that i have never gotten to work correctly, i have to use the vesa drivers
[07:35] <evilmegaman> disk*
[07:35] <mlopes> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:35] <Sivik> mlopes, did x not come up?
[07:35] <mlopes> it came up
[07:36] <di> evilmegaman: what about no cd?
[07:36] <mlopes> but I can't run 3d accelerated apps
[07:36] <mlopes> like glxgears
[07:36] <kuja> Does anyone happen to know if XGL is on the desktop or alternate CD images?
[07:36] <mlopes> 2d runs quite fine
[07:36] <mlopes> and seems smoother now
[07:36] <evilmegaman> di, no, GRUB does not come up with no CD
[07:36] <hckrSid> Sivik: mine used to work with 6.06, I just upgraded to 6.10... and now X won't start
[07:36] <estudiante> holsa
[07:36] <Sivik> mlopes, ok, run glxgears -printfps and tell me what the error is
[07:36] <estudiante> quien quiere sexo
[07:36] <Sivik> hckrSid, then reinstall the drivers
[07:36] <di> evilmegaman: try to skip to the grub install part of the install cd and install grub again OR try this:
[07:36] <mlopes> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:36] <mlopes> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[07:36] <hckrSid> I get this error: module ABI (0) version does not match the server's version
[07:36] <Vuen> greetings!
[07:37] <di> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318728
[07:37] <ana> Cyraq: why are you sending me private messages?
[07:37] <Sivik> hckrSid, reinstall your video drivers
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> I'm trying to set up a USB printer from the command line with printconf, and am getting "*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08179528 *** ; Unable to read printer database.  Please ensure the "foomatic-db" package is installed properly."   What's going on?
[07:37] <evilmegaman> Thanks di :)
[07:37] <holyprepuce> has anyone run ubuntu on a macbookpro?
[07:37] <di> Cyraq: why?
[07:37] <di> evilmegaman: np
[07:37] <hckrSid> Sivik, thanks I'll try that. :-)
[07:37] <di> Sivik: u sure no acpi is a valin kernel parameter?
[07:37] <di> 'valid
[07:37] <Nem|ltop> Sivik, ubuntu would be "debian format" right?
[07:38] <Xyphosura> I cant start 3d apllications (using the opensource radeon drivers), everytime i start a 3d app i get this error: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[07:38] <Xyphosura> drmCommandWrite: -22
[07:38] <Xyphosura> drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting)
[07:38] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, yes
[07:38] <Vuen> urgh
[07:38] <Vuen> i have to get a haircut and go buy a halloween costume
[07:39] <Vuen> i'd rather just sit here and play video games
[07:39] <Vuen> oops, this isn't #offtopic
[07:39] <Vuen> my bad
[07:39] <fluxinator> Cyraq, I know you?
[07:40] <LjL> fluxinator: cyraq has left.
[07:40] <thoreauputic> LjL: he's still on the network
[07:40] <Nem|ltop> Sivik, how do i know if im i386 or i686
[07:40] <fluxinator> how did I just get a pm from him?
[07:40] <LjL> fluxinator: yes, i meant left from the channel
[07:40] <thoreauputic> fluxi: he's /msg ing from outside the channel
[07:41] <fluxinator> hello thoreauputic
[07:41] <talat> hi i want to ask some quastion about networkmanager
[07:41] <bina> woah :)
[07:41] <infbliss> Nem|ltop: uname -a
[07:41] <fluxinator> holy s***
[07:41] <LjL> !ops
[07:41] <Xyphosura>  I cant start 3d apllications (using the opensource radeon drivers), everytime i start a 3d app i get this error: "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b drmCommandWrite: -22
[07:41] <Xyphosura> (19:38:13) Xyphosura: drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting) drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting)".  any help?
[07:41] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[07:42] <Nem|ltop> infbliss, thanks!
[07:42] <bina> what happened there?
[07:42] <thoreauputic> spamboots
[07:42] <jman8888> Spammer.
[07:42] <bina> oh right, not so good
[07:42] <jman8888> Ah. Thats a bad one.\
[07:42] <imme-emosol> Hello.
[07:42] <Xyphosura> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b: what does this error mean?
[07:43] <Sivik> Xyphosura, try searching it on google
[07:43] <imme-emosol> Does anyone in here know of a way to access the windows network on the wan-side of my router?
[07:43] <Sivik> Xyphosura, cause i'm willing to bet no one here knows what that errors mean
[07:43] <Sivik> imme-emosol, with samba
[07:43] <Sivik> imme-emosol, what kind of router are we talking about?
[07:43] <Xyphosura> @sivik: i was hoping someone could help me further
[07:43] <kenny> i want to download decoders for totem, can i do this on terminal ?
[07:44] <Sivik> kenny, yes, apt-get install codecfilename
[07:44] <di> is "no acpi" a valid kernel parameter?
[07:44] <RichiH> not to despair, staff is here
[07:44] <Sivik> di: yes, i use it all the bloody time
[07:44] <Sivik> Xyphosura, did you search on google to see what that issue meant first
[07:44] <di> Sivik: thanks
[07:44] <eXistenZ> I installed msttcorefonts, but still I don't have m$ fonts
[07:44] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, man /proc/version will tell you
[07:44] <Vuen> that's curious...
[07:44] <imme-emosol> Sivik: LinkSys, dhcp-server
[07:44] <Sivik> di, yw
[07:44] <Xyphosura> @sivik i found something about it now
[07:45] <datil> sup, are the new Intel P965 based motherboards (asus p5b) supported on the new release? old 6.06 release freezes on system boot
[07:45] <BelialMkII> You know, i wish i was as cool as them
[07:45] <Sivik> imme-emosol, what do you mean on the other side of it, like out a different port?
[07:45] <Amaranth> !ops
[07:45] <Tim92> how do i do a resture piont
[07:45] <eXistenZ> I installed msttcorefonts, but still I don't have m$ fonts. What can be wrong? :o
[07:45] <Amaranth> ubotu: ops
[07:45] <Sivik> Xyphosura, good for you
[07:45] <Amaranth> wtf
[07:45] <ubuntu__> kann man auch  auf deutsch schreiben
[07:45] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[07:45] <Sivik> ubuntu__, this is a english channel
[07:45] <RichiH> ubotu: klar. sollte man aber nicht..
[07:45] <fluxinator> !de
[07:45] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:46] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: that was lagged a lot...
[07:46] <imme-emosol> Sivik: It's a gateway-router   I mean that i _can_ access a windows network on the lan side of my router, but I can't seem to get to the wan-side of the windows-network.
[07:46] <Amaranth> yeah
[07:46] <Amaranth> thoreauputic: i've gotta go for a bit, can you keep order?
[07:46] <hume> what is the terminal command to put a laptop to sleep? (I need to solve a hibernate problem)
[07:46] <Amaranth> thoreauputic: i set +r
[07:46] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: Yes thanks
[07:46] <bina> is ubotu in trouble?
[07:46] <Sivik> imme-emosol, ok, i'm just a little confused, can we talk in pm
[07:46] <fuoco> is there any way to contact ubuntu developers through irc ?
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> Can anyone help set up a printer on command line?
[07:46] <dredhammer> hello does anyone know the correct repository for the spidermonkey-dev in Edgy?
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> fuoco: Depends what for.
[07:47] <dredhammer> I'm trying to compile avidemux
[07:47] <fluxinator> !pt
[07:47] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> !info spidermonkey-dev edgy
[07:47] <ubotu> Package spidermonkey-dev does not exist in edgy
[07:47] <Nem|ltop> Sivik, i can't seem to install this install.run thing, it returns "eval: 1: ./setup: Permission denied"
[07:47] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, sudo ./install.run
[07:47] <dredhammer> oh crap
[07:47] <fuoco> tonyyarusso: for fixing a bug, one that haven't received attention
[07:48] <magni_> Is it not possible to use LD_ASSUME_KERNEL in Ubuntu Edgy? I need it to get matlab working...
[07:48] <Nem|ltop> Sivik command not found
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> fuoco: #ubuntu-bugs preferably, #ubuntu-devel if you're nice ;)
[07:48] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, what command not found?   sudo?
[07:48] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, do sudo before you do the ./
[07:48] <Nem|ltop> yeah i did
[07:48] <Sivik> sudo is doing something in root privs
[07:48] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, what command was not found?
[07:49] <Nem|ltop> "sudo: ./install.run: command not found"
[07:49] <Nem|ltop> omg found out what i did wrong
[07:49] <Nem|ltop> lol i need some coffee
[07:49] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, probably because the file isn't call install.run
[07:49] <itsx> magni_:y mean cracked matlab (i just ask i am not from ubuntu support:))
[07:50] <Nem|ltop> it still says ./setup: permission denied though Sivik
[07:50] <magni_> itsx:  yes
[07:50] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, what are you trying to install?
[07:50] <Blacken> Sivik: Did you ever get your ATI drivers working? You disappeared after asking me how.
[07:50] <Nem|ltop> Sivik, driverloader
[07:50] <Sivik> Blacken, nope
[07:50] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, driverloader for what?
[07:50] <Sivik> Blacken, i realy didn't try, i'm helping way too m any ppl
[07:50] <Nem|ltop> Sivik, for my network adapter drivers
[07:50] <Sivik> i just need to stop helping
[07:51] <Sivik> copy all that stuff to patebin and i will look at it
[07:51] <jmkogut> There's an extremely odd bug I'm noticing... Whenever I close the lid of my laptop, the screen locks and asks for my passw. I find that to be a useful feature, but recently no matter what password I enter, it denies access. So I have to login as root, passwd myuser and then restart Xorg to do anything
[07:51] <fuoco> anyone uses r300 driver ?
[07:51] <Sivik> r300 driver for what?
[07:51] <kitche> Nem|ltop: try sudo ./setup see if that works
[07:51] <FlimFlamMan> i have about 40 packages that are "kept back" - should i install those?
[07:51] <dredhammer> so has anyone compiled avidemux on edgy?
[07:51] <Nem|ltop> kitche, there is no file called setup, the file is dldrinstall.run
[07:52] <chuckyp> dredhammer, its in the repos I believe
[07:52] <chuckyp> !info avidemux
[07:52] <kitche> Nem|ltop then do sudo dldrinstall.run
[07:52] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[07:53] <jmkogut> Has anyone seen this before? (on screenlock, no password is accepted)
[07:53] <Nem|ltop> kitche, thats what i did "eval: 1: ./setup: permission denied"
[07:53] <Sivik> can i chat with you in pm Blacken
[07:53] <Blacken> Sivik: Sure.
[07:54] <hckrSid> Nem|ltop, I just ran into the same problem. :-)
[07:54] <mattl> right, pub for me.
[07:54] <mattl> laters.
[07:54] <Nem|ltop> ugh am i not supposed to be using i686 or something?
[07:54] <lee> I just upgraded from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 ... 6.06 detected all the hardware in my laptop perfectly, but 6.10 won't find the WLAN (Intel Centrino 2 Duo chipset, I think the WNIC is a 3945ABG), any suggestions where to start looking for what's going wrong?
[07:54] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, use linux-generic
[07:55] <hume> anyone knows about suspend / hibernate? my laptop does not give me write access to /sys/power/state - shouldn't it be writable by root?
[07:55] <Nem|ltop> okay
[07:55] <chuckyp> hume, everything is writable by root
[07:55] <WooD> I f I install Gaim from apt-get on ubuntu 6,10 is it gonna be the new version 2.0 of gaim ?
[07:55] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, yeah they switched to that and the generic package will pick the best kernel for your hardware.
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> yes
[07:56] <WooD> tonyyarusso: are you talking to me  ?
[07:56] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp, okie dokie, gimme a minute and ill see if it works
[07:56] <bina> WooD: I think so
[07:56] <WooD> bina:o k
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> WooD: Yep.
[07:56] <chuckyp> !info gaim | hume
[07:56] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB
[07:56] <WooD> tonyyarusso: thanks
[07:56] <hume> chuckyp, hrm.. but 'echo -n mem > /sys/power/state' gives me that access is denied (run sudo)
[07:56] <bina> WooD:  Just doing an upgrade now n saw it go running past the screen
[07:56] <hume> chuckyp, gaim?
[07:56] <chuckyp> hume, sry not for you.
[07:56] <rmd> can someone suggest a wireless network scanner?
[07:56] <chuckyp> rmd, kismet
[07:57] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp, but what do i do for future software?
[07:57] <chuckyp> !wifi > rmd
[07:57] <Nem|ltop> when i want to download a .deb which one would i be choosing
[07:57] <wikijeff> Do I need the alternate cd to install edgy with a separate partition for /home?
[07:57] <rmd> thanks for the link, chucky
[07:57] <mikm[laptop] > No, wikijeff
[07:57] <see> anybodyu with experience of installing ubuntu on a macpro, have a problem with the cdrom: it complains hda: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)  googled it but cant really get what is the problem.
[07:57] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, What type of cpu do you have?
[07:57] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp, i have an amd x2 4200+ but i am using the 32 bit version of ubuntu
[07:57] <wikijeff> mikm[laptop] , I can do it with the normal live CD? If so, how do I determine what size to make the /home partition and what size to make the / partition?
[07:58] <Nem|ltop> because i heard some horror stories about 64 bit compatibility
[07:58] <Sivik> Nem|ltop, where who ever told you those horror stories, there really aren't that bad
[07:58] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, ahh well you should be able to use i386 debs still.
[07:58] <Nem|ltop> alrighty
[07:58] <thoreauputic> rats
[07:59] <Nippur> hi, anybody had problem with archive.ubuntu.com server for reload repository??
[07:59] <eXistenZ> anyone having problems with msttcorefonts too?
[07:59] <hume> eXistenZ, what problems?
[07:59] <chuckyp> Nippur, eXistenZ no
[07:59] <kitche> Nippur: it's being hammered right now I believe
[07:59] <eXistenZ> hume, the package is installed, but I still don't have fonts.
[07:59] <hume> chuckyp, you got any idea why I cannot access /sys/power/state?
[07:59] <biberao> hi
[07:59] <dooglus> Nippur: it's just very busy.  use a less busy one.
[08:00] <hume> eXistenZ, in what program?
[08:00] <biberao> edgy by default doesnt detect an intel pro wireless?
[08:00] <chuckyp> hume, who is the owner?
[08:00] <Sivik> biberao, it should
[08:00] <rhp> Hi all, I'm trying to install Edgy, but when I reboot into the base install, I get: "Unknown interrupt or fault at EIP ..."
[08:00] <mikm[laptop] > wikijeff -  What do you mean "what size"?
[08:00] <lee> biberao: it isn't seeing mine
[08:00] <rhp> Any ideas?
[08:00] <biberao> i dont have wireless
[08:00] <eXistenZ> hume, I used always to install them to change my fonts in gnome
[08:00] <hume> chuckyp, root...
[08:00] <wikijeff> mikm[laptop] , how large to make the partitions.
[08:00] <chuckyp> hume, and how were you trying to write to it?
[08:00] <hume> chuckyp, echo -n mem > /sys/power/state
[08:00] <biberao> it should atleast detect and then i install nm-applet to use WPA
[08:00] <mikm[laptop] > wikijeff -  How large do you need it to be?
[08:00] <thoreauputic> LjL: beat me to it :)
[08:01] <chuckyp> hume, try sudo su-  then doing your echo comand mgiht be a problem with the >
[08:01] <hume> chuckyp, well, sudo echo -n mem > /sys/power/state
[08:01] <dang`r`us> hiya
[08:01] <lee> biberao: dapper (or whichever 6.06 is) finds my intel 3945abg just fine, I'm booted from the livecd now
[08:01] <CromagDK> is this edgy channel now or ?
[08:01] <wikijeff> mikm[laptop] , 5 GB, I'm not sure. That's what I'm asking. What percent of the hard drive is usually used by /home and what percent is usually used by /. Or what percentages do you recommend?
[08:01] <chuckyp> hume, or sudo -i  whatever it is to get a root login then do it.
[08:01] <biberao> im using edgy
[08:01] <mikm[laptop] > wikijeff -  It really depends on what you're going to be doing and how yo will use the partitions.  If you're going to be having media, you'll want to have a big /home partition
[08:01] <biberao> its really sucking
[08:01] <biberao> i cant even use sudo
[08:01] <lee> edgy doesn't like it at all
[08:01] <biberao> on a terminal
[08:01] <biberao> :\
[08:01] <dang`r`us> so I'm running dapper + beryl/Xgl from deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main  - what's the best way to upgrade to edgy?
[08:01] <Nem|ltop> wonderful, more errors
[08:01] <chuckyp> !upgrade > dang`r`us
[08:01] <Nippur> dooglus: with another server can i use?
[08:02] <biberao> !upgrade > biberao
[08:02] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, more errors with what?
[08:02] <dang`r`us> thanks chuckyp
[08:02] <wikijeff> mikm[laptop] , ok. I'll see how much space my current /home partition uses and base it on that
[08:02] <hume> chuckyp, -bash: echo: write error: Operation not permitted
[08:02] <concept10> I wonder why NetworkManager doesnt show wireless connections
[08:02] <biberao> and ubuntudid something i didnt expect
[08:02] <biberao> i made space for ubuntu and i told it to use the available free space
[08:02] <mikm[laptop] > wikijeff -  Don't forget to give it plenty of room to breathe :)
[08:03] <tschuppm> Hi everyone. I'm completely new to Linux and therefore quite lost. My current target is to install a better driver for my nvidia gpu. I've already downloaded a *.run file, but further don't know what to do with it. I tried to start the command "sh driver.run" in a console. After that, something seems to work, but I'm getting a failure message (out of the nvidia installer) that I have to start this installer as root. What does that mean?
[08:03] <biberao> and the bitch DELETED windows
[08:03] <biberao> :\
[08:03] <eXistenZ> What's the command to update font cache?
[08:03] <chuckyp> hume, hrm... no idea I don't have much experience with laptops
[08:03] <wikijeff> mikm[laptop] , yeah. thanks
[08:03] <mikm[laptop] > !nvidia > tschuppm
[08:03] <hume> concept10, check that your wifi card is not in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:03] <DarqFiber> !compiz
[08:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:03] <dang`r`us> chuckyp, that page says "Using packages from non Ubuntu official repositories may break your upgrade." - which I'm actually afraid of (therefore I mentioned the compiz repository)
[08:03] <Jalada> tschuppm, run sudo sh driver.run
[08:03] <chuckyp> tschuppm, you need to use sudo
[08:03] <chuckyp> !nvidia > tschuppm
[08:03] <tschuppm> thanks, I'll try
[08:04] <dang`r`us> I assume it's my best bet to first uninstall beryl/Xgl?
[08:04] <chuckyp> dang`r`us, hrm maybe ask in #ubuntu-xgl they may know
[08:04] <chuckyp> !xgl
[08:04] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:04] <dang`r`us> chuckyp, thanks
[08:05] <dang`r`us> (again)
[08:05] <rhp> I'm trying to install Edgy from the server install CD on a Via Epia, but when I reboot into the base install, I get: "Unknown interrupt or fault at EIP ...". Ideas?
[08:06] <chuckyp> dang`r`us, np
[08:06] <tschuppm> chuckyp, thanks for helping. This brought me a step further ;o)
[08:06] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp, the installer is asking "where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel" how do i find this out
[08:06] <QuixoticJ> Hi
[08:06] <Jalada> /usr/src/linux usually
[08:06] <dnite> For some reason, ubuntu freezes on boot (right in the beginning) if I have my USB hard drive plugged in.. anyone know how to fix this?
[08:07] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, well typically /usr/src/linux but you need to add the source if you want to build something against it.  What are you trying to install?
[08:07] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp, driverloader for some wireless adapter drivers
[08:07] <kitche> dnite: it's scanning your usb bus that takes a while
[08:07] <kitche> dnite: but just unplug your usb hard drive when your booting
[08:07] <dnite> kitche, it's pretty infinate.. i've let it sit for a few hours w/o a change...
[08:07] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, well you can try just adding the linux-headers-`uname -r`   and seeing if that will be enough if not linux-source-`uname-r
[08:07] <chuckyp> `
[08:08] <geeky_bodhi> anybody by any chance is using the Intel DG965RY mobo and has managed to get Intel Open Source graphics working?
[08:08] <QuixoticJ> whats difference from a .tar and a .tgz?
[08:08] <aoupi> QuixoticJ: the tgz is a gzipped tar
[08:08] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, sry if headers doesn't work I had a typo use linux-source-`uname -r`
[08:08] <mikm[laptop] > tar = uncomprssed
[08:08] <QuixoticJ> i have a tgz how can i exstract the files?
[08:08] <MasseR> Tar = packaged but not compressed
[08:08] <dnite> kitche, and I don't mind unplugging it, it's just a pain.. + if the power ever goes out.. or if for whatever reason, something causes the system to reboot when i'm not here.. it gets stuck at that point and never recovers...
[08:08] <chuckyp> QuixoticJ, tar.gz is a gzipped tar
[08:08] <jrib> How come 'python' in edgy points to python2.4 despite python2.5 being installed?  Is there a good reason I shouldn't just relink it to 2.5?
[08:09] <aoupi> QuixoticJ: tar xzf filname.tgz
[08:09] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp, i have no idea what you mean but i tried it with /usr/src/linux and I got "warning: missing file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/autoconf.h
[08:09] <MasseR> QuixoticJ: tar xzvf .tgz
[08:09] <QuixoticJ> ty
[08:09] <Jalada> Nem|ltop, try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:09] <Jalada> then try again
[08:09] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, you need to install the source code for your current running kernels
[08:09] <preaction> how come my auto-update hasn't warned me about the edgy upgrade?
[08:09] <chuckyp> !source
[08:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:09] <Jalada> ...linux-source-`uname -r` then..
[08:09] <QuixoticJ> Can I register more than 1 name on the irc?
[08:09] <preaction> QuixoticJ, yes
[08:09] <preaction> QuixoticJ, but why?
[08:10] <QuixoticJ> I share this computer with another and wanted to make an account for him also.
[08:10] <Crembo> where can I find if my printer is supported by Ubuntu?
[08:10] <hckrSid> Nem|ltop: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:10] <Nem|ltop> yet another error
[08:11] <eXistenZ> meh
[08:11] <eXistenZ> something wrong in msttcorefonts
[08:11] <rhp> Nobody?
[08:11] <Nem|ltop> im checking the log and it goes bad at "/usr/lib/driverloader/modules/GPL/divi3.c.28.20: error: endian.h: no such file or directory"
[08:11] <Nem|ltop> and so on and soforth
[08:11] <Hobart> part
[08:12] <Hobart> I fail IRC
[08:12] <eracc> Ok, on Mandriva I have the commands 'service' and 'chkconfig' for service management (starting/stopping services and enabling/disabling services). What are the equivalents on *buntu? (please type my /nick if any of you answer so I can see your reply in the "noise" here :-)
[08:12] <rellis> I just did an Ubuntu Server install.. do you need a non-lvm partition in order to install a bootloader?
[08:13] <eracc> rellis, IIRC you do. But I may be working from old information.
[08:13] <chuckyp> Crembo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[08:13] <Crembo> chuckyp: thanks
[08:13] <mohsen> can I "apt-cdrom add" an iso image?
[08:13] <rellis> eracc: Ya, that install step failed, so I think I in fact do need a non-lvm partition.
[08:13] <chuckyp> eracc, system > administration > services
[08:13] <preaction> how come my auto-update hasn't told me about the edgy upgrade?
[08:14] <Jalada> you can use an lvm partition if you can get the initrd to access the LVM
[08:14] <eracc> chuckyp, I want something to use from the command line on a server. Not desktop.
[08:14] <chuckyp> mohsen, what?   Do you want to upgrade from cd?
[08:14] <rellis> eracc: One thing I don't get at all, is why they use lilo on u8buntu Server and grub on Ubuntu Desktop =/
[08:14] <QuixoticJ> hmm i crashed my client for a second.
[08:14] <chuckyp> eracc, well you use update-rc.d
[08:14] <eracc> rellis, don't ask me. ;-)
[08:14] <mohsen> chuckyp: yes - form the iso image.
[08:14] <The_Machine> what's a good ftp server for linux?  I saw in a apt-cache search a program simply called "ftpd".  I'm used to using filezilla server..
[08:14] <QuixoticJ> I ran this xchat from a terminal is it possible to still use that terminal without quitting xchat?
[08:14] <szero> hello i need some help please. Ubuntu is not aitoamatically ocnnecting to internet at startup , why??
[08:14] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp, i keep getting stuck at where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel
[08:14] <eracc> chuckyp, ah! Thanks. That may be just what I am seeking.
[08:15] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, did you install the headers from apt?
[08:15] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp, and before the prompt it says /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/build
[08:15] <imme-emosol> QuixoticJ: Ctrl + W If I'm not mistaken... And to go back again... euhmmm...
[08:15] <Nem|ltop> i think i did
[08:15] <JasonF> Anyone know if this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/43745 is fixed in edgy?
[08:15] <QuixoticJ> ctrl w closed the tab ^^
[08:15] <imme-emosol> QuixoticJ: Hmmm...
[08:16] <QuixoticJ> its ok i opened another terminal window
[08:16] <imme-emosol> QuixoticJ: I'll check it out...
[08:16] <haakonn> hmm. the "side" button of my logitech mouse, which used to function as the middle-button, does nothing after i upgraded to edgy. anyone know which setting (in xorg.conf i guess) controls this?
[08:16] <chuckyp> JasonF, wel 2.6.17 is the current edgy kernel so dunno and that is listed there.
[08:16] <brutopia> does someone know how can I increase priority of kde in kubuntu
[08:16] <brutopia> can I inster "nice -3" to somewhere
[08:16] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, what package are you trying to build?
[08:16] <brutopia> insert I mean
[08:17] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, or better yet which network card are you trying to get working?
[08:17] <QuixoticJ> was it tar -xvf filename.tgz to open the tar file?
[08:17] <aoupi> anyone know of a good ftp server that supports TLS/SSL, something like glftpd but runs on a ppc
[08:17] <aoupi> QuixoticJ: and z
[08:17] <chuckyp> QuixoticJ, tar -zxvf whatever.tgz
[08:17] <imme-emosol> QuixoticJ: So, it's Ctrl+Z
[08:17] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp, "could not get lock on /var/lib/dpk/lock open 11 resource temporarily unavailable
[08:17] <imme-emosol> QuixoticJ: but I don't remember how to go back... :s
[08:17] <kyja> can someone recoment an good music composer?
[08:17] <szero> hello i need some help please. Ubuntu is not automatically connecting to internet at startup , why??
[08:17] <JasonF> chuckyp: yeah, but I don't want to work on setting up a laptop for one of my users and have it go boom
[08:17] <QuixoticJ> its ok imme ty i just opened more terminal windows didnt know i could at first.
[08:17] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, need sudo
[08:18] <szero> please help me!
[08:18] <QuixoticJ> is there a website that can explain what all the letters are in the -zxvf
[08:18] <imme-emosol> QuixoticJ: aha okay. :) cool.
[08:18] <kitche> szero: might be because the network card isn't up or it won't activite by itself
[08:18] <JasonF> QuixoticJ: man tar
[08:18] <aoupi> QuixoticJ: man tar
[08:18] <Nem|ltop> ugh rebooting and starting over
[08:18] <ianmacgregor> QuixoticJ: man tar explains all of that
[08:18] <bruenig> Nem|ltop, you can't have synaptic open, make sure it isn't if you are trying to use apt-get from the command line
[08:18] <QuixoticJ> is that a command too?
[08:18] <ianmacgregor> yes
[08:19] <chuckyp> JasonF, if you read the last post in that bug it appears that someone is no longer experiencing it.
[08:19] <kyja> ?????????????????????????????????//
[08:19] <kyja> :(
[08:19] <aoupi> QuixoticJ: yes, man [command]  will give you the manual of that command
[08:19] <szero> kitche; so what can i do?
[08:19] <szero> kitche: it worked in dapper
[08:19] <chuckyp> JasonF, there is also work arounds.
[08:19] <bruenig> kyja, then answer then is no, we don't know a good music composer
[08:19] <QuixoticJ> thats sweet
[08:19] <preglow> is upgrading to edgy known to destroy the bootloader?
[08:19] <QuixoticJ> does it work for any command?
[08:19] <kyja> I know. thats the cause of my sadness
[08:19] <Tschaka> szero check if dhcp ip request is activated ;)
[08:19] <chuckyp> QuixoticJ, man shows the help pages for any app if they are there.
[08:19] <ianmacgregor> QuixoticJ: It works for most
[08:19] <x-Na> Hey
[08:20] <chuckyp> !man
[08:20] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:20] <QuixoticJ> ok thx ima go read thru all taht stuff
[08:20] <x-Na> should edgy really run fsck.reiserfs on every boot?
[08:20] <szero> tschaka: Where can i set that?
[08:20] <chuckyp> x-Na, its not actually checking the system on every boot.
[08:20] <QuixoticJ> trying to setup a server and dont know what im doing so learnign to config it as i go lol
[08:20] <_azrael> x-Na: It's checking your fs for murderers
[08:20] <rellis> Does anyone know why they use lilo on Ubuntu server yet they use grub by default in ubuntu desktop?
[08:20] <x-Na> I know
[08:20] <chuckyp> !lamp > QuixoticJ
[08:20] <x-Na> but why it does that on every boot
[08:20] <Tschaka> szero start, system, administration Network...at my system ;)
[08:20] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp, it asked me to run dpkg --configure -a
[08:20] <QuixoticJ> im on the lamp install already chucky. but i have to configure stuff.
[08:21] <x-Na> I'm guessing shutdown doesn't go as planned
[08:21] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp so i did and now its asking where is the linux source build directory again
[08:21] <scrognale> If I want to install edgy eft on a dapper computer that does not have an internet connection, how do I do it safely?
[08:21] <x-Na> i kinda expected upstart to make booting faster, but now my machine boots slower than dapper :P
[08:21] <szero> tschaka: thanks i will try it
[08:21] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, What are you trying to install?
[08:21] <Nem|ltop> driverloader
[08:21] <chuckyp> scrognale, /topic
[08:22] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, what type of card?
[08:22] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp, dwl-g132 USB
[08:22] <Nem|ltop> d-link
[08:22] <kitche> Nem|ltop: well do you have your kernel sources installed?
[08:22] <x-Na> any ideas?
[08:22] <jfro> was there some change to library search paths or something in edgy? Zend Studio and it's installer fail on some common libraries, like it's not looking in right place
[08:22] <jfro> but worked in dapper
[08:22] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, okay hold up  there may be a better way.
[08:22] <alnokta> hello ... anyone one knows why I get this error when clicking "Logout" ? please take a look ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28705/
[08:22] <Nem|ltop> kitche, that sources thing that you guys told me to do is producing this error
[08:22] <scrognale> chuckyp: I don't get it
[08:22] <nolimitsoya_>  /msg nickserv link nolimitsoya iX7A6Wzb
[08:22] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp okay
[08:23] <kitche> nolimitsoya_: might want to change your password
[08:23] <nolimitsoya_> kitche, done :)
[08:23] <x-Na> I just upgraded from dapper to edgy
[08:23] <Nem|ltop> this is certainly one thing i didn't miss about linux
[08:23] <jfro> i upgraded from dapper to edgy, bad mistake so far, haha
[08:24] <Nem|ltop> lol
[08:24] <x-Na> did a reinstall of all the upstart-packages, initscripts etc
[08:24] <x-Na> no luck there
[08:24] <kitche> Nem|lyop: well it's probably looking at the build directory which build really shouldn't be a directory in reality
[08:24] <x-Na> well.. I'm feeling an improvement, only thing is that booting
[08:24] <Unimatrix9> so what laptops are running ubuntu today over here?
[08:24] <sephknows> Ubuntu uses too much memory, right?
[08:24] <jfro> my problem is something change with library search paths or something in edgy
[08:24] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, okay there are people that have it working with ndiswrapper
[08:24] <jfro> that is breaking a critical app of mine
[08:24] <webmind> hello
[08:24] <Pensacola> download is slow :)
[08:24] <mitsuhiko> hoi
[08:25] <mitsuhiko> and grrr
[08:25] <chuckyp> !ndiswrapper
[08:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:25] <rhp> Does anyone know if the kernel in edge-server is actually a i686 kernel? I am having problems booting into it.
[08:25] <scrognale> If I want to install edgy eft on a dapper computer that does not have an internet connection, how do I do it safely?
[08:25] <mitsuhiko> does anybody know why the hell the preferred applications dialog lacks again ipod support?
[08:25] <webmind> can anyone explain why my IP is reset to something with 169.something after I disconnected my cable ?
[08:25] <x-Na> any idea where to look to make this thing shutdown cleanly?
[08:25] <clearzen>  Nem|lyop what kind of d-link card is it? I just configured a pcmcia d-link card for my laptop the other day
[08:25] <sephknows> can anyone help me?
[08:25] <webmind> (using edgy eft)
[08:25] <mitsuhiko> (edgy)
[08:25] <mohsen> i have edgy cdrom burt now. i have "apt-cdrom add"ed it....but "apt-get dist-upgrade" is trying to download the packages yet. "Need to get 174MB/659MB of archives." is that normal?
[08:25] <biberao> edgy is isnt good
[08:25] <biberao> .X
[08:25] <preglow> doesnt't edgy have k8 versions of the kernel?
[08:25] <jfro> hmm, what's the env var for library paths?
[08:25] <sephknows> im in windows, but i loaded ubuntu.com in my browser, why didnt it install!?
[08:25] <scrognale> If I want to install edgy eft on a dapper computer that does not have an internet connection, how do I do it safely?
[08:25] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146018&highlight=dwl-g132
[08:25] <mikm[laptop] > scrognale -  CD?
[08:25] <joejojojo> hi
[08:26] <Unimatrix9> use a cdrom?
[08:26] <kitche> webmind: but it gets another ip if you mean the cable that you get your net though and not the ethernet cable
[08:26] <scrognale> I have a CD
[08:26] <webmind> sephknows, please read the site aswell
[08:26] <sephknows> uhhh but i did, and it said INstall and i clicked it and it didnt install
[08:26] <scrognale> Is there an upgrade option on the CD?
[08:26] <wais> hi
[08:26] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, I don't see why you would need ndisgtk but you can give those directions a try to get your card working.  I would ignore the part about ndisgtk deb that he is telling you to dl.
[08:26] <joejojojo> im tryong to install latest release on a windows partiion but when i try to resize it, it tells me couldnt mound device input output error, what can i do please??
[08:26] <wais> whats the typical sampling rate in a mp3 file
[08:26] <wais> is it 44.2khz?
[08:26] <miojo> 441
[08:26] <miojo> 44.1
[08:27] <wais> well teh problem i'm having with it
[08:27] <kitche> sephknows: it takes a while to install it doesn't do it automatically
[08:27] <RogerBacon> wais 44.1
[08:27] <webmind> kitche, uhm... all I know is it reset my IP to this after unplugging the cable for a short while
[08:27] <Unimatrix9> scrognale , take an read here, i hope it helps...
[08:27] <Unimatrix9> http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=14
[08:27] <wais> is that mp3 files are usually econded at 128 kbit right
[08:27] <dnite> is there a way to have apt-get automatically remove orphaned dependecnies?
[08:27] <webmind> kitche, I'd kinda like to know why, and how to stop it
[08:27] <Shadowthrone> What would be considered the most superior CD/DVD burning software?
[08:27] <St_MPA3b> ~~~[08:27] <evil_cow> how to compile mplayer
[08:27] <scrognale> ok thanks
[08:27] <Unimatrix9> mp3 normal 128 high 192
[08:27] <Tschaka> St_MPA3b gaim
[08:27] <sephknows> ok im clicking Install and it says something about download a CD
[08:27] <RogerBacon> yep, but 192 is better ...
[08:27] <Pensacola> St_MPA3b:  kopete
[08:27] <sephknows> i thought you had to BUY cds!!!!
[08:27] <{_-IcE-_}> can someone suggest a good bittorrent client in gui? Azureus keeps crashing on ubuntu and wont work well
[08:27] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp apt couldn't find package
[08:27] <kitche> webmind: it's your cable modem that does it it renews it's ip if it the connection isn't active probably
[08:27] <Pensacola> {_-IcE-_}: ktorrent
[08:27] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, which package are you trying to install?
[08:27] <evil_cow> i cant install sudo apt-get install x-window-system-dev
[08:27] <joejojojo> anyone can help?
[08:28] <wais> so 128kbit / 44.2khz = ~ 3
[08:28] <{_-IcE-_}> tnx Penguin
[08:28] <{_-IcE-_}> *pensacola
[08:28] <webmind> kitche, uhm.. this is a cross cable to another computer
[08:28] <St_MPA3b> ~~~[08:28] <TheGateKeeper> evil_cow: any particular reason you are not installing the binary?
[08:28] <RogerBacon> gaim
[08:28] <p00nah> hi dudes
[08:28] <webmind> kitche, with static ip settings
[08:28] <Pensacola> kopete
[08:28] <p00nah> anyone using 6.10 version?
[08:28] <wais> this means that there are only 3 possible amplitude levels per sample of sound, and that doesnt seem to work out in my mind :<
[08:28] <clearzen> {_-IcE-_}: try ktorrent
[08:28] <evil_cow> coud someone give me repos for this package
[08:28] <chuckyp> p00nah, nope
[08:28] <mitsuhiko> i guess i shouldn't ever ask in that channel. toooo many people online
[08:28] <Pensacola> installing at the moment
[08:28] <RogerBacon> yep
[08:28] <evil_cow> The_Machine, give me please some repos
[08:28] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[08:28] <RogerBacon> p00nah yes, why ?
[08:28] <chuckyp> evil_cow, type !info packagename
[08:28] <Unimatrix9> anyone using an laptop right now , and ubuntu on it...
[08:28] <dyn-afk> St_MPA3b I use Gajim and/or Psi as jabber clients because they can do GPG encryption :)
[08:28] <chuckyp> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[08:28] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1-5 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 48 kB
[08:28] <scrognale> Unimatrix, this seems like I need an internet connection to upgrade, is that true? or am I not reading this artivle correctly?
[08:28] <p00nah> RogerBacon: i386, or AMD64?
[08:28] <kitche> webmind: well 169. I believe is a public ip address, but if it's static then it will stay the same it doesn't seem like static to me
[08:28] <evil_cow> !info mplayer
[08:28] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[08:29] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, its there.
[08:29] <clearzen> Unimatrix9: I am
[08:29] <MrKeuner> hi, I am trying to activate the ati binary driver in edgy. I did everything on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI but still getting the error Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". and it is still using MESA. What should I check?
[08:29] <St_MPA3b> chuckyp: psi works good under Gnome?
[08:29] <wais> if anyone knows anything about how sound is econded can you please pm me :/
[08:29] <evil_cow> hm
[08:29] <wais> this channel seems rather busy
[08:29] <webmind> kitche, well I set the original IP myself with ifconfig
[08:29] <TheGateKeeper> evil_cow: multiverse
[08:29] <webmind> kitche, already killed dhclient
[08:29] <p00nah> RogerBacon?
[08:29] <Innu> Hey, i installed windows after ubuntu. How can i recover grub bootloader with ubuntu live cd?
[08:29] <RogerBacon> p00nah : i386 for me ... do you have a 64 bit processor ?
[08:29] <p00nah> ye i have, why?
[08:29] <Nem|ltop> chuckyp can i message you
[08:29] <p00nah> well... i tried i386
[08:29] <Nem|ltop> this is killing me
[08:29] <scrognale> Unimatrx, how do I install edgy eft without an internet connection?
[08:29] <p00nah> but i got problems with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:29] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, yes
[08:29] <evil_cow> The_Machine, no,no when i install it with apt-get the subtitles are ureadable
[08:30] <alnokta> fellows.. any ideas?
[08:30] <webmind> kitche, 168.something is not range I'm ever in, and I wouldn't know where it would come from was it not from the system itself
[08:30] <p00nah> after i type my vga name -> cant press ok (after vga part)
[08:30] <kitche> webmind: well ifconfig will only temporary hold an ip have you rebooted since you set the ip
[08:30] <sephknows> ok , now i got Ubuntu running. i can tell cuz windows says "Fatal error at Internet Exporer: "Ubuntu.org"
[08:30] <p00nah> RogerBacon: any ideas? ;\
[08:30] <evil_cow> The_Machine, the only way is to compile it from source
[08:30] <chuckyp> Nem|ltop, You may have to register your nick with nickserv to send a pm though.
[08:30] <sephknows> it looks a lot like Windows though
[08:30] <eracc> !grub
[08:30] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:30] <RogerBacon> p00nah : when you booting the live cd ?
[08:30] <donvito> well does the ubuntu desktop 6.10 provides eggdrop, psybnc
[08:30] <donvito> can i install this feautures?
[08:31] <szero> I'm having some problems viewing avi movies in totem-xine. When i see the movie in a windows, there are ugly lines in the top pf the video, like trash lines. What can I do?
[08:31] <wais> what exacly does the bitrate represent?
[08:31] <haakonn> flash crashes both firefox and mozilla in my edgy. what is the "right" package to have installed for flash?
[08:31] <Unimatrix9> clearzen, wich brand is it
[08:31] <webmind> kitche, no reboots
[08:31] <scrognale> is there an upgrade option on the edgy CD to upgrade from dapper to edgy without an internet connection?
[08:31] <Unimatrix9> hi hawkwind, hows it going?
[08:31] <savvas> er..
[08:31] <clearzen>  Unimatrix9: I run edgy on a old hp
[08:31] <p00nah> RogerBacon: ? what when you booting the live cd? i installed i386, but when i type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and end with vga part, i cannot press ok
[08:31] <webmind> kitche, this happened within 5min I disconnected the cable
[08:31] <chuckyp> donvito, you can search for packages at packages.ubuntu.com  or type !info packagename in here
[08:31] <Unimatrix9> long time no see..hawkwind
[08:31] <ianmacgregor> Wowsers. rkhunter flies fast on Edgy.. was never that fast on Dapper.
[08:31] <gotgenes> What pattern can I use to exclude hidden files from my topmost directory only with rsync?
[08:31] <webmind> kitche, does ubuntu check for link and act upon that ?
[08:31] <chuckyp> donvito, you should probably /msg ubotu and do it out of channel though so its not flooded
[08:31] <{_-IcE-_}> configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found!
[08:31] <{_-IcE-_}> Please check whether you installed KDE correctly.
[08:31] <sephknows> ok i downloaded the Gentoo LiveCD and it isnt working, it says the dopcmcia module isnt loaded, what do i do?
[08:32] <Unimatrix9> old hp , ah ok
[08:32] <savvas> i just upgraded to edgy, it updated to firefox 2, and started http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/610 which does not exist :p
[08:32] <donvito> does ubuntu desktop have kde?
[08:32] <sephknows> donvito: Kubuntu does
[08:32] <szero>  I'm having some problems viewing avi movies in totem-xine. When i see the movie in a window, there are ugly lines in the top of the video, like trash lines. What can I do?
[08:32] <Unimatrix9> kubuntu has kde
[08:32] <kitche> webmind: yeah but I m thinking that the other company is that connected to your modem? since if it is i think it's getting your public IP address instead of the oen you set
[08:32] <sephknows> AHHAH i beat you to it!
[08:32] <sephknows> punk
[08:32] <wais> oh shit, i got it wrong
[08:32] <Unimatrix9> hehe
[08:32] <Unimatrix9> :)
[08:32] <webmind> kitche, it is not my public IP
[08:32] <Vuen> hey all, since the edgy upgrade my computer no longer turns off after i shut it down
[08:32] <Vuen> any ideas?
[08:32] <clearzen> {_-IcE-_}: try to use aptitude instead of apt-get
[08:32] <aSt3raL> ha nice login sound
[08:32] <p00nah> avvas: is xserver-xorg reconfiguration going ok for you?
[08:32] <webmind> kitche, my public IP starts with an 8
[08:32] <scrognale> is there an upgrade option on the edgy live CD to upgrade without an interent connnection?
[08:32] <wais> 3 = number of bits per sample, not number of levels
[08:32] <sephknows> wtb man
[08:32] <Tschaka> szero try mplayer, has its own codecs imho
[08:33] <nolimitsoya> kitche, how do i get someone to drop my nick, so i can reregister it? i cant find any usefull info on freenode.net...
[08:33] <wais> then again, that means there are only 8 different amplitude levels
[08:33] <webmind> kitche, all I did was disconnect the cable, reboot the other machine, and reconnect it after it was booted
[08:33] <wais> possible
[08:33] <sephknows> im loading PuppyLinux but my mouse doesnt work. HELP!
[08:33] <szero> Tschaka: thanks again. Can i PM you to ask you something?
[08:33] <{_-IcE-_}> clearzen: im using a source package
[08:33] <p00nah> no answer? fu :(
[08:33] <webmind> in that time this machine got a different IP, without my doing it
[08:33] <Tschaka> szero sure =)
[08:33] <radar1976> ok I have a question...
[08:33] <eracc> Innu, did you see the information about grub?
[08:33] <kitche> nolimitsoya: well you will have to wait 90 days or if you know the password you can ghost it
[08:33] <t0taln00b> hi all
[08:33] <radar1976> \gksu "update-manager -c"
[08:33] <Unimatrix9> scrognale , take an read here, i hope it helps...
[08:33] <radar1976> that command returns file not found
[08:33] <Unimatrix9> http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=14
[08:33] <nolimitsoya> kitche, i know the pass. how do i ghost it?
[08:34] <kitche> webmind: well it seems like it's getting your WAN ip
[08:34] <clearzen> {_-IcE-_}: are you trying to install ktorrent? aptitude install ktorrent will handle the dependencies
[08:34] <ianmacgregor> nolimitsoya: /help ghost ?
[08:34] <kitche> nolimitsoya: /nickserv ghost <user> <pass>
[08:34] <ianmacgregor> nolimitsoya: /msg nickserv help ghost ?
[08:34] <St_MPA3b> ~~~[08:34] <scrognale> unimatrix9: this seems like I need an interent connection to upgrade, is this true?
[08:34] <radar1976> what package needs to be installed for that command to work?
[08:34] <Studiosus> I'd like to upgrade to edgy from dapper but w/o using upstart. Is it possible?
[08:34] <Unimatrix9> no
[08:34] <aSt3raL> ok in firefox 2 the screen scrolls super slow what is the problem?
[08:34] <webmind> kitche, it is not my WAN ip
[08:34] <{_-IcE-_}> clearzen: tnx, didnt know i could aptitude it... d/l the source and was going to compile
[08:34] <Unimatrix9> no internet, just add sources ( cdrom in this case )
[08:34] <aSt3raL> i just upgraded to 6.10
[08:35] <nolimitsoya> kitche, thank you :)
[08:35] <Unimatrix9> but if you read it might be clear
[08:35] <Unimatrix9> i think
[08:35] <clearzen> {_-IcE-_}: no problem
[08:35] <Vuen> Studiosus: it is possible to deactivate upstart in edgy, but i'm not sure how, and it's really not recommended... why don't you want to use upstart?
[08:35] <radar1976> aSt3raL: how did you do the upgrade?
[08:35] <scrognale> oh, sorry
[08:35] <ianmacgregor> aSt3raL: Is this with just one site or all sites?
[08:35] <Unimatrix9> http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=14
[08:35] <webmind> kitche, it's 169.254.244.28, which is a LINK LOCAL range.. so it can't be my WAN ip
[08:35] <Unimatrix9> thats the link -url
[08:35] <aSt3raL> radar1976: cdrom
[08:35] <webmind> kitche, neither is it a range I ever used
[08:36] <Unimatrix9> any one over here on an new laptop with ubuntu?
[08:36] <scrognale> unimatrix9: I think I get it now. I have to go into dapper with the edgy CD in, and the run the update manager?
[08:36] <aSt3raL> ianmacgregor: all sites
[08:36] <bruenig> aSt3raL, that happens to me too. I think it has to do with firefox
[08:36] <Studiosus> I know initv better than upstart (which I don't know at all)
[08:36] <JaZyWRK> have a question i installed edgy and didn't look at the comptuer name i was giving it. can i rename this
[08:36] <webmind> Unimatrix9, t42 ?
[08:36] <aSt3raL> firefox 2 uses 100% cpu to scroll a webpage
[08:36] <Unimatrix9> scrognale , be sure to understand what it say's before you try
[08:36] <radar1976> aSt3raL: I'm trying to use gksu "upgrade-manager -c"  but it is reporting command not found
[08:36] <aSt3raL> bruenig: what kind of cpu do you have?
[08:37] <Unimatrix9> t42 , ibm?
[08:37] <scrognale> ok...
[08:37] <bruenig> let me check
[08:37] <Andrew67> radar1976: update-manager ??
[08:37] <kitche> webmind: well you will have to set your static ip not though ifconfig but though the network tool just to make sure it will stay the same since ifconfig really only holds it temporary if you unplug the cable and such
[08:37] <bruenig> aSt3raL, it gets up there at 84 - 100% usage
[08:37] <nolimitsoya> kitche, i dont see how its suposed to work... i cant ghost myself, but i cant ghost someone who is not online. how am i supposed to ghost, and how does it help me change my pass? :)
[08:37] <aSt3raL> bruenig: what _kind_ of cpu do you have?
[08:37] <scrognale> unimatrix9: and if I'm dual booting, this won't affect windows, right?
[08:37] <bruenig> oh
[08:37] <aSt3raL> like brand
[08:38] <fluxinator> damn it Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:38] <fluxinator>  gtk-engines-eazel
[08:38] <fluxinator>  python-mutagen
[08:38] <ianmacgregor> bruenig: Where are you getting your info? gkrellm?
[08:38] <bruenig> AMD athalon 64 3400+
[08:38] <eXistenZ> I installed msttcorefonts, but still I don't have the m$ fonts!
[08:38] <eXistenZ> What can I do?
[08:38] <bruenig> ianmacgregor, actually I am using the cpu gauge gdesklet
[08:38] <kitche> nolimitsoya: just change your nick to the other nickname so you can change your password
[08:38] <aSt3raL> bruenig: and you installed the amd generic version of 6.10?
[08:38] <ianmacgregor> bruenig: Ahh, ok
[08:38] <fluxinator> what do I do?
[08:38] <Unimatrix9> scrognale, it should not affect windows, same process, grub loader , should be updated too..
[08:38] <bruenig> aSt3raL, I installed the generic i386 desktop
[08:38] <AlienX> eXistenZ, find someone who has windows and have them give you their fonts
[08:39] <scrognale> ok
[08:39] <eXistenZ> AlienX, But it used to work fine
[08:39] <ianmacgregor> bruenig , aSt3raL Firefox doesn't usually go above 50% CPU here and is never slow in scrolling
[08:39] <eXistenZ> Now on edgy things are f**ked up
[08:39] <aSt3raL> bruenig: i am using the amd64 kernel and firefox is doing the same thing
[08:39] <preglow> anyone know how i can make ubuntu generate a new grub menu.lst for me? the one it made during install is incredibly broken
[08:39] <nolimitsoya_> kitche, and how do i do the password change now?
[08:39] <webmind> kitche, yes, but I'd like to know why and how that this is done ?
[08:39] <rmd> is there a way to get synaptic to delete all superflous libraries?
[08:39] <webmind> kitche, I like using ifconfig
[08:39] <scrognale> unimatrix9: I also have a problem logging on to dapper. Whenever I try to logon, it displays a blank screen, then brings me back to the logon window.
[08:40] <bruenig> aSt3raL, probably will get swiftfox soon if I can't figure a way around it
[08:40] <webmind> kitche, and I can't say I like my system to think for me
[08:40] <Unimatrix9> scrognale ... dcc
[08:40] <lee> biberao: did you find a solution?
[08:40] <aSt3raL> i can actually see the screen redraw in firefox 2
[08:40] <scrognale> connected
[08:40] <kitche> nolimitsoya_: /msg nickserv help
[08:40] <biberao> lee
[08:40] <biberao> i just updated
[08:40] <biberao> all
[08:41] <biberao> but no solution
[08:41] <biberao> :\
[08:41] <kitche> webmind: well to do it the other way it just gives ifconfig all the info it needs all the time
[08:41] <nolimitsoya_> kitche, thank you :)
[08:41] <scrognale> unimatrix9: it says I just discnonnected
[08:41] <lee> biberao: this is what I'm doing, I don't know if it's going to work but it seems worth a try
[08:41] <biberao> lee
[08:41] <biberao> i installed edgy RC
[08:41] <webmind> kitche, huh ?
[08:41] <biberao> do i need to do anything to update to the full version?
[08:41] <webmind> kitche, ifconfig doesn't unset ip's
[08:41] <webmind> kitche, neither does the kernel
[08:42] <kitche> webmind: it does unset if there is no cable connected to the card
[08:42] <x-Na> btw, any idea where initscripts check to see if a fsck is to be run for filesystems?
[08:42] <webmind> kitche, is this some strange new patch in ubuntu then ?
[08:42] <webmind> kitche, because it's not standard behavious afaik
[08:43] <bina> Hi, at the moment I can't start X dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg says the package is broken, apt-get -f install doesnt fix it, but I notice its holding a load of X packages back from an upgrade.  Is there any way I can get it do install these updates?
[08:43] <lee> biberao: hold on, going to reboot in a minute and see if it worked
[08:43] <kitche> webmind: no it does it for all distros for example my eth0 has an ip but yet no cable so it doesn't show an ip
[08:43] <fluxinator> is this a problem The following packages have been kept back:
[08:43] <fluxinator>   checkinstall python-adns python-clientcookie python-crypto python-ctypes python-egenix-mxdatetime python-egenix-mxproxy python-egenix-mxqueue
[08:43] <fluxinator>   python-egenix-mxstack python-egenix-mxtexttools python-fuse python-gadfly python-htmlgen python-htmltmpl python-imaging python-imaging-sane python-jabber
[08:43] <fluxinator>   python-kde3 python-kjbuckets python-ldap python-mysqldb python-pam python-pexpect python-pgsql python-psyco python-pylibacl python-pyopenssl
[08:43] <fluxinator>   python-pysqlite2 python-pyxattr python-qt3 python-reportlab python-simpletal python-soappy python-sqlite python-syck python-xmms python-xmpp
[08:43] <fluxinator> SORRY
[08:43] <biberao> ok
[08:43] <fluxinator> very sorry
[08:43] <webmind> kitche, uhm.. I don't have this problem in debian etch ?
[08:43] <clearzen>  bina: try sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:44] <meff> hi all, i noticed that the nv drivers in edgy are 8774, are these hotfixed with the 8776 patch for the 8774 vulnerability?
[08:44] <chrisfxp> Hi, has anyone installed Edgy under VMWare Server?
[08:44] <bina> fluxinator: that to me? Yeah, plus some X ones
[08:44] <webmind> I can set an interface to 'up' even if there is no cable connected
[08:45] <fluxinator> thats my output bina
[08:45] <Tim90> !glx
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <tayirvadai_vikra> i tried aiglx in my laptop with beryl as window manager but the window borders and panel's are gone.can anyone help me
[08:45] <bina> clearzen: it does nothing, just says 40 packages held back
[08:45] <Tim90> is there a channel for glx
[08:46] <marcus_> Hi Having a sound issue with sigmatel like no sound at all
[08:46] <bina> fluxinator: hmm
[08:46] <tayirvadai_vikra> i am not sure of it
[08:46] <chrisfxp> I installed 6.10 on VMWare server and I get this error message when the kernel boots. Unknown interrupt or fault at EIP 00000060 c0100295 00000294. If I boot into the generic general it will boot into the system.
[08:46] <tayirvadai_vikra> if there is a channel for glx
[08:46] <bina> Is there a way to force apt to install updates? (including ones its holding back)?
[08:46] <kitche> webmind: Tim90: #xorg
[08:46] <kitche> not you webmind that was to Tim90 :)
[08:46] <aSt3raL> whoa this isnt a firefox2 issue its a gnome issue
[08:46] <chrisfxp> apt-get install dist-upgrade
[08:46] <webmind> ah
[08:46] <Crembo> how do I add items and submenus to my main 'Applications' menu?
[08:47] <tannerld> how long would it take to upgrade a ubuntu server?
[08:47] <Tim90> cheers
[08:47] <aSt3raL> everything on the screen gets redrawn slow
[08:47] <clearzen> bina: It is probably packages for edgy. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will most likely install them
[08:47] <marcus_> Hi Having a sound issue with sigmatel like no sound at all
[08:47] <bina> crisfxp: same again :( just has loads held back
[08:47] <Tim90> another thing is glx only for nvidia
[08:47] <Tim90> ATI are crap
[08:47] <kitche> Tim90: it's for all cards
[08:47] <aSt3raL> all i have running is gnome-terminal and when i move the window around it redraws slow and cpu to 100%
[08:48] <bina> clearzen: im using edgy now, I can't start X because it's packages are broken somewhere.
[08:48] <lee> biberao: plug your machine into a network point and verify that you have a network connection.  then go to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager, go into Settings > Repositories and select universe, multiverse and restricted, quit Synaptic, open a terminal, and run: gksu "update-manager -c"
[08:48] <Tim90> still dont like ATI thou
[08:48] <ikaruga> Hi all, just installed the latest amarok from the repository. However, for some reason the sound sounds muffled. (The previous version sounded LOUD & clear).
[08:48] <boson_> Anyone having any problems with firefox crashing on certain sites?
[08:48] <tayirvadai_vikra> is ATI supported. if so can u help me fix this
[08:48] <tayirvadai_vikra> mine is ATI
[08:48] <clearzen> bina: what does it tell you when you attempt sudo aptitude dist-upgrade?
[08:48] <tayirvadai_vikra> radeon
[08:49] <lee> biberao: I installed the default selections (15.5MB), rebooted, and now I'm on the net via the wifi
[08:49] <ikaruga> is firefox 2.0 coming to ubuntu anytime soon?
[08:49] <boson_> it's in edgy
[08:50] <aSt3raL> im having some major problems with 6.10
[08:50] <niccos> is gnome 2.16 default in edgy?
[08:50] <bina> clearzen: oooh its doing something now :-) thanks, I thought aptitude was the same as apt-get
[08:50] <lee> aSt3raL: what are they?
[08:50] <aSt3raL> if i try and do anything that require the screen to be redrawn it goes super slow
[08:51] <aSt3raL> and maxes the cpu out
[08:51] <eXistenZ> meh
[08:51] <eXistenZ> there is a bug in msttcorefonts: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/46884
[08:51] <clearzen> bina: I personally like aptitude better. I does a better job with dependancies and keeping track of packages
[08:51] <kitche> boson_: which firefox?
[08:51] <boson_> kitche: 2.0
[08:51] <aSt3raL> i just restarted gnome and opened up gnome-terminal and if i move the window it maxes the cpu
[08:51] <billapi> hello. i have a newbie question is someone has a moment. need to know which iso i can use that will boot from cdrom. the desktop cd is created will only load from a running windows box. any suggestions?
[08:51] <bina> clearzen: well it definitely seems to be working better here :)
[08:51] <savvas> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/610 < it says it does not exist, first run on firefox 2
[08:52] <kitche> boson_: do you have flash installed? I m not sure if they fixed that bug with certain flash sites
[08:52] <ghost> see what happens when typing "miserable failure" in Google.DE (not the com!): http://www.google.de/search?hs=ThQ&hl=en&lr=&q=miserable+failure&btnG=Search
[08:52] <boson_> kitche: I haven't yet installed flash, but it worked fine on my firefox 1.6 or whatever it was
[08:52] <mohsen> i have Edgy cdrom and yet apt-get dist-upgrade is downloading files from Internet. What's the problem?
[08:52] <aSt3raL> none of the programs take a long time to start.  i noticed it when firefox 2 would scroll slow
[08:53] <aSt3raL> now i realized its a system problem
[08:53] <Gyuszk> Guys, is anyone using Edgy? I've dist-upgraded from Dapper, everything's fine, but I have messed up my menu.lst for grub. Please anyone, copy and paste the line with the new stock kernel, pls!! Thanks!
[08:53] <bina> clearzen: hooray, all installed. I'll reboot and try again.  Thanks
[08:53] <aSt3raL> *system-wide
[08:53] <kitche> boson_: but it might be segfaulting but a log would be useful really try starting firefox in a terminal then go to a page that crashed it and it should output the error for you when it crashed
[08:53] <clearzen>  bina: your welcome
[08:53] <boson_> kitche: ok let me try
[08:54] <Gyuszk> Guys, is anyone using Edgy? I've dist-upgraded from Dapper, everything's fine, but I have messed up my menu.lst for grub. Please anyone, copy and paste the line with the new stock kernel, pls!! Thanks!
[08:54] <Gyuszk> 2.6.17-10
[08:54] <aSt3raL> i just finished upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10 when the problem started
[08:54] <aSt3raL> any ideas?
[08:54] <fluxinator> OK X FAILED
[08:55] <Jeeves__> hello, I am having a problem with ddclient, each time i try to start / re start it I get "dynamic DNS service update utility not in use " any ideas what the problem could be?
[08:55] <fluxinator> I am talking through irssi and im panicking
[08:55] <boson_> kitche: I get "The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
[08:55] <boson_> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[08:55] <boson_> The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
[08:55] <boson_> "
[08:55] <Gyuszk> Guys, if anybody is using Edgy with its new kernel, (2.6.17-10), please copy and paste the "kernel" line from menu.lst. Thanks!!
[08:55] <boson_> kitche: After doing a bunch of plugin_get_value stuff
[08:55] <fluxinator> apparently my driver for intel i915 isnt here
[08:55] <kitche> boson_: hmm ok it seems to do with gecko and X then
[08:55] <Gyuszk> I need what kernel parameteres are used
[08:55] <chrisfxp> Gyuszk: What is happening to you when the kernel loads?
[08:55] <Seb> Gyuszk: what's the pb ?
[08:56] <fluxinator> can someone please help
[08:56] <boson_> Gyuszk: where's the menu.lst I'll paste
[08:56] <boson_> nvm
[08:56] <niccos> /boot/grub
[08:56] <taslavar> Does anybody know how to boot ubuntu on an ibook G3 using a USB thumb drive? I installed the base system and manually installed yaboot, but it doesn't get past "Loading second stage bootstrap...". My ofboot.b and yaboot.conf are here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/oMWHir37.html
[08:56] <kitche> fluxinator: X failed doesn't really tell us much check your xorg.0.log it should be in /var/log
[08:56] <Gyuszk> chrisfxp, I have an own compiled kernel (2.6.18.1) that worked fine with Dapper, but it doesnt work with Edgy. I tried to load the 2.6.17-10 with its initrd (i passed the proper root=dev), but it only goes to mount FS in readonly mode.
[08:56] <Gyuszk> The init process wont start
[08:56] <rmd> is there a way to get synaptic to remove unused libraries?
[08:57] <boson_> kitche: Yes, but what should I do about it? I think it's an ad that's causing it
[08:57] <mohsen> i have Edgy cdrom and yet apt-get dist-upgrade is downloading files from Internet. What's the problem?
[08:57] <scrognale> can anyone recomend an ubuntu-compatible wireless network card?
[08:57] <chrisfxp> gyuszk
[08:57] <chrisfxp> are you using 6.06?
[08:57] <wais> when a mp3 file has been encoded at 128kbit, does that mean that each second takes up 128,000 bits of space?
[08:57] <eobanb> taslavar, i didn't know that was possible to do.
[08:57] <Gyuszk> chrisfxp, no, edgy 6.10 amd64
[08:57] <Gyuszk> upgraded from dapper
[08:57] <boson_> Gyuszk: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=UUID=8e98c349-4131-4abf-9107-f60788c27a0d ro quiet splash
[08:57] <Gyuszk> the upgrade process was successful
[08:57] <eobanb> scrognale, most of them will be fine.
[08:57] <XP1> Can someone send me ubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.iso
[08:57] <boson_> if you're using that kernel
[08:57] <fluxinator> kitche there is no file by that name
[08:58] <scrognale> eobanb: none of the ones in my house work
[08:58] <taslavar> eobanb: the official debian website has instructions for doing it, so i assume it's possible..
[08:58] <XP1> I can't find the DVD download for 6.10 on the site
[08:58] <aSt3raL> can anyone help with a video/display problem in 6.10?
[08:58] <taslavar> eobanb: i hope :p
 Gyuszk: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=UUID=8e98c349-4131-4abf-9107-f60788c27a0d ro quiet splash <--- boson, oh my god, whats that string after root???
[08:58] <eobanb> scrognale, what are the cards?
[08:58] <chrisfxp> I ran into a similar problem with dapper under vmware and I had to boot into rescue mode and install the linux-686 package
[08:58] <kitche> fluxinator there should be should be Xorg.0.log
[08:58] <datil> sup, are the new Intel P965 based motherboards (asus p5b) supported on the new release? old 6.06 release freezes on system boot
[08:58] <boson_> Gyuszk: Dunno, check the grub manuals
[08:58] <eobanb> taslavar, debian installations tend to be much more flexible than ubuntu ones
[08:58] <Wulong> How do I tell Ubuntu that my eth1 card is a wifi device?
[08:58] <eobanb> taslavar, e.g. net installs
[08:58] <RaethDragon> In Dapper I created a rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/, but Edgy doesn't seem to read it. Why is this so?
[08:58] <nolimitsoya> datil, tried the bottable cd?
[08:59] <nolimitsoya> RaethDragon, is it still there?
[08:59] <taslavar> eobanb: but this isn't even getting to the point of loading the distro
[08:59] <scrognale> eobanb: not sure, but most of them are belken, and there's one linksys that's known for being hard to get to work
[08:59] <datil> nolimitsoya, not yet, i havent burned the lattest release iso, thats why im asking
[08:59] <ericmoritz\0> hi, I updated from Dapper to Edgy and now my headphone and master volumes are separate volume controls, how do I set it back to having the master volume control both my internal speakers and my headphones?
[08:59] <maxflax> is it troublesome to install Beryl? or is it very straight forward?
[08:59] <RaethDragon> nolimitsoya: Yeah, I put the file in the same place in Edgy.
[09:00] <billapi> hello. i have a newbie question if someone has a moment. need to know which iso i can use that will boot from cdrom. the desktop cd i created will only load from a running windows box. is there something i am missing?
[09:00] <FlimFlamMan> i'm playing around with XGL in edgy - very nifty.  but i can't seem to get it to work with nvidia TwinView.  is it possible?
[09:00] <thor> I have just upgraded to edgy and the X server won't load. Is there a known issue with this?
[09:00] <patientfox> hi... is the default glibc the NPTL version or non-NPTL?
[09:00] <kitche> billapi: check your bios to make sure it can boot from cdrom
[09:00] <fluxinator> kitche failed to load module "i810" (module requirement mismatch 0)
[09:00] <rmd> billapi: you need to make sure your bios supports booting from cdrom
[09:00] <chrisfxp> I installed 6.10 on VMWare server and I get this error message when the kernel boots. Unknown interrupt or fault at EIP 00000060 c0100295 00000294. If I boot into the generic general it will boot into the system.
[09:00] <nolimitsoya> billapi, have you burnt it the right way? you shouldnt put the file on the cd, but unpack it as an image
[09:01] <fluxinator> kitche: then it preceeds to load modules
[09:01] <kitche> fluxinator: you need ot resinstall the i810 driver most likely
[09:01] <fluxinator> how?
[09:01] <Wolfpaws> I need some help with configuring compiz... I follow the guide on ubuntuforums.or to make it work under KDE, but compiz itself fails to load the plugins... Any ideas in that direction?
[09:01] <clearzen> thor: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:01] <billapi> kitche: checked. in fact even disconnected HD. so that only device was cdrom
[09:02] <nolimitsoya> clearzen, what does the -phigh do?
[09:02] <RaethDragon> How do I get Rhythmbox to refresh its music directory? (i.e., remove files not in the dir, add new files...)
[09:02] <billapi> nolimitsoya: ya, made sure of that after first attempt, hahahaa
[09:02] <aSt3raL> anyone know where to start with figuring out what the problem is?
[09:02] <fluxinator> kitche: how?
[09:03] <boson_> Is it easy to get xgl to work in ubuntu?
[09:03] <aSt3raL> anything requring a screen refresh in gnome goes very slow
[09:03] <The_Machine> okay
[09:03] <Wolfpaws> boson_: I'm figthing with that right now
[09:03] <boson_> Wolfpaws: Is it a rough fight?
[09:03] <kitche> i810 > fluxinator
[09:03] <easytiger> wonderfull. vmware is F*&ked
[09:03] <The_Machine> using gnome - how do i make it so there's a "shortcut" to a folder that i have on a netbios share?
[09:04] <The_Machine> i tried "make link" but i just get an error
[09:04] <sorush4_> hi
[09:04] <fluxinator> kitche: im confused
[09:04] <AkumAPRIME> well, 2 screen res faqs later, and still not 1280x800.. anyone have a screen res faq they recommend?
[09:04] <Wolfpaws> boson_: yush :|
[09:04] <The_Machine> how the FU(#)%*()% do you make "shortcuts"?  :)
[09:04] <billapi> i suppose the correct question should be, do i have the correct iso file: ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
 do you mean smb share?
[09:04] <The_Machine> right
[09:04] <The_Machine> smb share
[09:04] <The_Machine> :)
[09:04] <nolimitsoya> billapi, yes :)
[09:04] <The_Machine> (folders sitting on a windows server)
 ok.. do you want it to go in your "places" menu?
[09:04] <The_Machine> would rather have it in a folder
[09:04] <The_Machine> that's on my desktop
[09:04] <kitche> fluxinator install the package xserver-xorg-video-i810 just to make sure you have a good version
[09:05] <easytiger> ahh
[09:05] <wais> does anyone know of a IRC channel i can find some computer scientists who might know a thing or two about sound encoding?
[09:05] <The_Machine> right
[09:05] <sorush4_> I'm in irssi and i have a problem, I have upgraded to edgy and its not working , I can't log into kdm
[09:05] <sorush4_> how do I trouble shoot?
[09:05] <nolimitsoya> sorush4_, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[09:05] <Nem|ltop> holy god where did chucky go
[09:06] <The_Machine> i'm getting so mad at this
[09:06] <The_Machine> heh
 i would suggest you mount it using the "mount -t smbfs..." in /etc/fstab
[09:06] <AkumAPRIME> how do I add in the repository list the universe and multiverse databases
[09:06] <The_Machine> there's no nice gui way to just "make shortcut" to this folder kind of thing?
[09:06] <fluxinator> kitche: do I reboot once I have installed
[09:06] <boson_> The_Machine: I've added ssh connections to my desktop, try doing it that way
[09:07] <kitche> fluxinator: or type in startx
[09:07] <The_Machine> how, boson?
 if you used nfs you would
[09:07] <aSt3raL> ok i can scroll text in a terminal fine but if i scroll graphics like in firefox its very slow
 but i'd reccomend just mounting the share
[09:07] <The_Machine> it is mounted
[09:07] <boson_> The_Machine: Open up Places -> Home Folder, Click File -> Connect to Server
[09:07] <aSt3raL> also if i move the window its slow
[09:07] <billapi> nolimitsoya: well, i suppose i should give all the info, =). i am attempting to replace a BSD box. that is the machine where the iso wont boot. but to make sure the burn was successful i loaded place it in a running windows box, and it loaded. could there be an issue with BSD boot loader, even though in bios i have set cdrom to boot first.
[09:07] <boson_> The_Machine: Thats how I do an SSH share
[09:07] <The_Machine> boson - i did
[09:08] <AkumAPRIME> I'm trying to alter my screen resolution. The faq I'm using says to "add in the repository list the universe and multiverse databases". How do I do this?
 i've used that but its not great
[09:08] <clearzen> AkumAPRIME: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:08] <The_Machine> i think i get it
[09:08] <boson_> easytiger: Mine works perfectly with one or two minor things
[09:08] <nolimitsoya> billapi, no, there shouldnt. some drives are somewhat picky when it comes to cdrw; have you tried vanilla cdr?
[09:08] <The_Machine> what a pain in the arse
[09:08] <clearzen> AkumAPRIME: then add the proper lines to the file
[09:09] <AkumAPRIME> hmm.. thanx clearzen
 its really really easy to do it with mount
[09:09] <clearzen>  AkumAPRIME:n/p
[09:09] <Tim91> glx ,any one have the f***k working
[09:09] <sholden> is the PLF repo down right now?
[09:09] <pazemlsqdfmoj> in apache: how do i give the server itself rwx rights?
[09:09] <nolimitsoya> billapi, if you get no luck with cdr or bios settings, try lending the bsd box the windows box's cdrom drive :)
[09:09] <The_Machine> easy - could you give me an example?
[09:09] <aSt3raL> is there a good place to post bugs and get support?
[09:09] <The_Machine> i'm not used to the shell..  so used to gui..
[09:09] <MetaMorfoziS> !easysource
[09:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:10] <kitche> Tim91: yes it should eb loaded for you already
 well... no better time to see how much better it is
[09:10] <MetaMorfoziS> sisthere a source generator for edgy?
[09:10] <fluxinator> kitche it complains saying could not init font path element /var/lib/defoma and a few others
[09:10] <segfault_> pazemlsqdfmoj, u give privs the dirs/files u want it to right
[09:10] <fluxinator> kitche: sorry to be a pain
[09:10] <brynk_>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[09:10] <Tim91> kitche, tell me what to do to get it working
[09:10] <kitche> fluxinator: then it exits out?
 can you current read the share?
[09:10] <billapi> nolimitsoya, will do. thanks for the help.
[09:10] <segfault_> right=write :)
[09:10] <AkumAPRIME> clear: once I've uncommented those lines, I believe I must do sth to.... like access/install them. do you know what cmd I mean?
[09:10] <fluxinator> yeah kitche
[09:10] <The_Machine> yes
[09:10] <pazemlsqdfmoj> segfault_: but how? i mean, wot user/group does he belong to?
[09:10] <The_Machine> i can
[09:10] <Tim91> i have ubuntu 6.10
[09:10] <Tim91> ohh 64 bit
 cool
[09:11] <kitche> Tim91: edit your xorg.conf and find a line that says load glx it might be commented out
[09:11] <The_Machine> this takes like 20 x longer than windows
[09:11] <easytiger> whats the problem then
[09:11] <The_Machine> oh, that it's friggin unnessarily difficult
[09:11] <segfault_> pazemlsqdfmoj, do a ps aux and look for apache or httpd and see who it is running as
[09:11] <FlimFlamMan> does anyone know how to get nvidia TwinView to work with XGL on edgy?
[09:11] <The_Machine> like, not being able to "make shortcut" here with dragging stuff
 : what is?
[09:11] <hobbesmaster> hello, I'm having trouble upgrading from dapper to edgy, dist-upgrade breaks and tells me to do a apt-get install -f, which has the following output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28715/
[09:11] <AkumAPRIME> when the sources.list is editted, what is the next command that actually updates the sources from the new list?
[09:11] <The_Machine> that things automatically copy when you drag them
[09:11] <The_Machine> rather than giving a menu, with a choice
[09:11] <The_Machine> it seems a step backwards
 well a one line command will do it for you
[09:12] <clearzen> FlimFlamMan: nno but if you figure it out you should let me know :p
[09:12] <JoseStefan> Akuma_, sudo apt-get update
[09:12] <fluxinator> kitche: what do I do?
[09:12] <Nem|ltop> does anybody know anything about ndiswrapper
[09:12] <JoseStefan> AkumAPRIME, ^^^
[09:12] <AkumAPRIME> ty jose
[09:12] <The_Machine> yea, and a hand gesture with a mouse is a lot easier than a command
[09:12] <FlimFlamMan> clearzen: ok.  :-)  have you gotten xgl working yet?
[09:12] <clearzen> Nem|ltop: yes, i do
[09:12] <The_Machine> that's why i'm saying it's unnesssarily painful
[09:12] <niccos> The_Machine: all in all, its still about 200$ cheaper than anyhting microsoft has
[09:12] <kitche> fluxinator: install the fonts I dont know the package for it
[09:12] <The_Machine> :)
 i disagree
[09:12] <Nem|ltop> clearzen, can i message you
[09:12] <AkumAPRIME> theres a heavy learning curve from windows, but things are coming together some
[09:12] <The_Machine> niccos: i'm not complaining abotu the price
[09:12] <The_Machine> i'm just mentioning how counter intuitive it is
[09:13] <clearzen> FlimFlamMan: yes but it is on a 64 bit machine
[09:13] <easytiger> if you invest a small amount of time learning how things work. there iwll be long term rewards
[09:13] <laz45> Where can I get Apple Airport Extreme Firmware? I need to cut it with fwcutter so that I can use my wireless card in Ubuntu
[09:13] <niccos> its not counter intuitive
[09:13] <The_Machine> i understand that tiger
[09:13] <niccos> if you have some common sence
[09:13] <The_Machine> again, i'm just talking about this aspect of the GUI
[09:13] <kitche> fluxinator: but you can use apitude(spelling is wrong) to install them might be easier
[09:13] <AkumAPRIME> I agree easy tiger: I'm not copy/pasting/forgetting. copy/pasting/learning
[09:13] <Cale> Is there a fix for the edgy problem of the cancel button icon defaulting back to the old red X, rather than fitting with the theme?
[09:13] <clearzen> Yes, go ahead
[09:13] <The_Machine> so, anyway
[09:13] <clearzen>  Nem|ltop: go ahead
[09:13] <jmitchj> is anyone using Edgy yet?
[09:13] <Cale> I am
[09:14] <The_Machine> let's say i want to do a 1 line command that will place shortcuts to mounted SMB shares into whatever folder i specify
[09:14] <laz45> jmitchj: I am :)
[09:14] <The_Machine> ..little help on what that command might be?
[09:14] <knapper> Can someone recommend a good download manager for KDE that supports multiple download sources.
[09:14] <jmitchj> have you guys been running into these type of messages?...Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:14] <AkumAPRIME> well damn, that didnt give me my res option... more faq time, brb
[09:14] <jmitchj> and E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate
[09:14] <fluxinator> kitche: im screwed I cant find the packages
[09:14] <nolimitsoya> The_Machine, man symlink?
[09:14] <jrib> jmitchj: have you enabled multiverse?
[09:15] <JoseStefan> !info flashplugin-nonfree edgy
[09:15] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:15] <Salah> any good articles on how to set up a linux dns server or a print server?
[09:15] <Tim91> how do i edit it
[09:15] <The_Machine> symlink
[09:15] <The_Machine> okay
[09:15] <JoseStefan> make sure you have multiverse enabled
[09:15] <jmitchj> i thought i had enabled them all
[09:15] <kitche> Tim91: umm with vim or nano you have to sudo it
[09:15] <krazykit> Salah: google for CUPS for the print server
[09:15] <jrib> jmitchj: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:15] <JoseStefan> ...and you are on i386
[09:15] <finalbeta> fdsklf, I really need to get around installing windows back, ubuntu just locked my desktop (screensaver) and the login box doesn't come up, so I can't unlock.
[09:15] <rmd> is there a way to disable the always-on-top behaviour for gnome panel?
[09:16] <jorgp> is edgy available on cd as well as dvd?
[09:16] <JoseStefan> jorgp, yes
[09:16] <fluxinator> kitche they are fonts in /usr/share/fonts/X11
[09:16] <kitche> !font > fluxinator
[09:16] <Adriano> jorgp: edgy is preferably available as a livecd/installcd
[09:16] <kitche> fluxinator: maybe but ubotu sent you might help
 whats wrong with using the PLaces->Connect to server
[09:16] <Mirro> Real Player Plugin needed, is there some???
[09:17] <jorgp> i dont see any cd's in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/6.10
[09:17] <easytiger> it will then be in all the dialog boxes etc and nautilis
[09:17] <stevenx> hello guys. i was wondring if it is possible to burn the .iso image to a DVD-R instead of a CD-R
[09:17] <Salah> krazykit, well, I was thinking if some of the people here knew about any good articles
[09:17] <jorgp> just dvds
[09:17] <fluxinator> kitche: I cannot view that page, remember im using console only
 realplayer is a piece of crp on linux
[09:17] <RaethDragon> Does Edgy use udev?
[09:17] <easytiger> *crap
[09:17] <Tim91>   GNU nano 1.3.12              File: xorg.conf
[09:17] <miojo> RaethDragon, yes
[09:17] <kitche> fluxinator: you can use links which is console-based web browser
[09:17] <jorgp> RaethDragon, of course
[09:17] <The_Machine> easytiger - if i'm going to be wasting so much time filling in the form that you have to, i might as well learn to make a symlink :)
[09:17] <Xylish> hyy all
[09:17] <sorush4_> guys I keep getting the message that 31 or other messages are  not be ing upgraded mostly related to python.. can someone help me fix this ? I have tried the -f install and dist-upgrade and upgrade any ideas?
[09:17] <The_Machine> though man symlink didn't work
[09:17] <The_Machine> hmm
[09:17] <Mirro> easytiger, so i just need to install crp? i need it for mozilla firefox
[09:17] <JoseStefan> hobbesmaster, try removing pkg fglrx-6-8-0
[09:18] <RaethDragon> Because a little script that used to work in Dapper doesn't work in Edgy...
 i just did it there now.. it took, literally 3 seconds
[09:18] <kitche> The_Machine ln -s is for a symlink
 lol
[09:18] <jorgp> RaethDragon, newer udev
[09:18] <krazykit> Salah: well, the point is to search first, ask if you're stuck.
[09:18] <The_Machine> kitche: where can i go read about what a symbolink link does exactly?
[09:18] <easytiger> !realplayer
[09:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:18] <gnomefreak> RaethDragon: edgy uses dash for scripts
[09:18] <Crembo> oh dear. when I installed Edgy I selected to add support for hebrew. it installed support for hindi.
[09:18] <Mirro> easytiger, lol isnt that helpful
[09:18] <datil> what's an application for GNOME (or another DE) for monitoring motherboard/cpu temperatures and/or fan speeds?
[09:18] <kitche> The_Machine you can use google or you can man ln to learn more about the ln command
 what do you need?
[09:19] <rene32> After the update to edgy my wifi does not work anymore. Anyone who can help me?
[09:19] <The_Machine> k, thanks
[09:19] <easytiger> how to install the plugin?
[09:19] <RaethDragon> gnomefreak: dash?
[09:19] <Pelo> sigh .....
[09:19] <gnomefreak> !dash | RaethDragon
[09:19] <ubotu> RaethDragon: /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[09:19] <Mirro> easytiger, a plugin for FF 2.0 to play real media stream
[09:19] <The_Machine> hey easytiger - do those "Places" smb shares always get copied on the desktop too?
[09:19] <sorush4_> rene32: what wifi do you have?
 no
[09:19] <Shadowthrone> What would be considered the most superior CD/DVD burning software?
[09:19] <sorush4_> guys I keep getting the message that 31 or other messages are  not be ing upgraded mostly related to python.. can someone help me fix this ? I have tried the -f install and dist-upgrade and upgrade any ideas?
 haeve you installed reaplplayer?
[09:19] <Pelo> anyone know how long the update to edgy takes ?
[09:19] <rene32> sorush4_: At the moment: none :-) It is a prism2 card which worked fine under 6.06
[09:19] <gnomefreak> sorush4_: they are all python?
[09:19] <sorush4_> Pelo: depend on you dconnection
[09:19] <Mirro> nope
[09:20] <Mirro> easytiger, do i have to?
 well do that then
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> What do I have to do to open port 631 for printer sharing with cups?
[09:20] <The_Machine> ah
[09:20] <sorush4_> gnomefreak: don't know wait..
[09:20] <easytiger> Mirro>: yes
[09:20] <lnx^> hoi
[09:20] <Pelo> sorush4_ ,  I am nowhere near maxing out my connection
[09:20] <JoseStefan> sorush4_, install each pkg manually, or try to solve the problem in synaptic
[09:20] <Mirro> easytiger, i dont like Real. some alternative?
[09:20] <sorush4_> !prism
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prism - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <jmitchj> jrib: the look of Edgy is kinda different when it comes to repositories...but they look like they are all checked off
[09:20] <lnx^> i'm experiencing real problems after the upgrade to edgy
[09:20] <Tim91> still cant run  xorg config
[09:20] <lnx^> fglrx stopped working
 well its a piece of shit proprietary format
[09:20] <lnx^> i.e. i get a blank screen
[09:20] <kitche> Mirro: look at Helix it's open source version of Real Player
[09:20] <Kameli> Which is better, NVAGP or AGPGART , i mean in FPS!? :)
[09:20] <lnx^> Xorg.0.log:
[09:20] <lnx^> (WW) fglrx(0): Specified desktop setup not supported: 8
[09:20] <lnx^> (EE) fglrx(0): PreInitDAL failed
[09:20] <lnx^> (EE) fglrx(0): R200PreInit failed
[09:21] <sorush4_> JoseStefan: i'm in command prompt just before full boot .. kdm is not loading..
[09:21] <kitche> !paste > lnx^
[09:21] <rwscold> !dvd burning
[09:21] <CookedGryphon> Hey, I upgraded to edgy the other day and all seemed fine, then randomly I've started gettign seg faults in firefox, this went on for abotu a day, now i'm getting random nautilus crashes (tho that may not be related)
[09:21] <rwscold> lol
[09:21] <Kameli> Which is better, NVAGP or AGPGART , i mean in FPS!? :)
[09:21] <sorush4_> Pelo: I don#t know how long then
[09:21] <lnx^> i found a lot of people complaining about that PreInitDAL error but i found no solutions
[09:21] <jrib> jmitchj: well if you are on i386 and have multiverse and have 'apt-get update', you should see flashplugin-nonfree.  Feel free to pastebin your sources.list, but make sure you have edgy multiverse, and not just edgy-backports multiverse
[09:21] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody please give me a good edgy extended sources list
[09:21] <Pelo> rwscold  try devedee, it's a great little ap
[09:21] <lnx^> i've got a radeon 9200 card
[09:21] <AkumAPRIME> bloody hell, it worked, my screen res is up
[09:21] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: isnt one yet
[09:21] <jorgp> Kameli, try both and experience the excitement yourself
[09:21] <sorush4_> rene32: make sure you have installed all the right packages for it..
[09:21] <cyzie> how do i change my hdd id type to FD ?
 has one fo your memory modules died? does your bios have a memory check
[09:21] <JoseStefan> sorush4_, then, sudo apt-get install, each one individually, and follow the food chain when it complains about some other package not installing
[09:21] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: just official repos for the most part
[09:21] <Pelo> sorush4_ I am downloading at about 30-40kB/s
[09:21] <bora> hi how are you
[09:21] <jmitchj> jrib: actually i'm on amd64
[09:21] <factotum> ive been getting a lot of random seg faults as well, usually with firefox, nautilus and synaptec.
[09:21] <erik_a> My Netgear WG511 WLAN card is intialized in Edgy, networks are found... but I cant connect! It was working in dapper...
[09:21] <DigitalNinja> I can't get my NX7600GT nvidia card working. After searching the net for days I've found people using the card. Coud I have a motherboard that isn't supportd by Linux? EPoX 6100 motherboard
[09:21] <bora> friends
[09:22] <MetaMorfoziS> :(((((((((
[09:22] <rene32> sorush4_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=276538&highlight=prism tells me that I am not alone. Exactly the same problem here.
[09:22] <bora> any body can help me
[09:22] <The_Machine> where in the filesystem are these mounted SMB shares located?
[09:22] <sorush4_> rene32: what do you get when you do iwconfig do you see your device..
[09:22] <Tim91> what cammand do i edit files with ie  xorg config
[09:22] <CookedGryphon> easytiger: interesting point, my bios doesn't but there's the ubuntu memtest on boot menu, i could that
[09:22] <Adriano> bora: hi, just ask the question
[09:22] <easytiger> this channel needs to be split up by issue type.
[09:22] <bora> about  xmms
[09:22] <easytiger> its far too busy
[09:22] <JoseStefan> sorush4_, make sure you dont have any 3rd party repos and you have *buntu-desktop installed
[09:22] <The_Machine> i know easytiger
[09:22] <The_Machine> heh
[09:22] <The_Machine> it is kind of nuts
 good idea
[09:22] <Adriano> bora: there's 1044 people in the channel
[09:22] <rwscold> Tiger it needs like a ticket system
[09:22] <sorush4_> Pelo: I think things are slow but im in the uk and everyone is upgrading so its bound to be slower..
[09:22] <CookedGryphon> easytiger: back in a lil while
[09:22] <Pelo> bora  you'Re gonna have to do better then ,that , in one sentence please
 worse that ##java
 ;)
[09:23] <rene32> sorush4_: no wireless extension
[09:23] <Adriano> bora: if you wait for permission then you'll grow old and die
[09:23] <refuze> Hey how can i disbale dead keys and have the '" button function normally??
[09:23] <sorush4_> JoseStefan: I have third party repos but the packages should be the same..
[09:23] <jmitchj> jrib: is that why some of the stuff is not avaliable?
[09:23] <bora> hmm
[09:23] <fluxinator> kitche I am totally confused
[09:23] <sorush4_> rene32: find out if the module is loaded for the card.
[09:23] <bora> I am a new ubuntu  user
[09:23] <rene32> sorush4_: I see it, it is wlan0 (used to be eth1) but "no wireless extension"
[09:23] <JoseStefan> sorush4_, i suggest enabling the 3rd party repos only after the system is running fine
[09:23] <Tim91> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf)?
[09:23] <bora> and  I would like to learning use  the ubuntu
[09:23] <sorush4_> rene32: then just do sudo dhclient3 wlna0
[09:23] <sorush4_> rene32: then just do sudo dhclient3 wlan0
[09:23] <Adriano> bora: the QUESTION (sorry if I scream, but we did notice)
[09:24] <rene32> sorush4_: Which one? Orinoco, hermes, hostap, prism2?
[09:24] <ddavis> might anyone know why I am getting slow internet speeds with ubuntu?
[09:24] <sorush4_> rene32: prism2 should be the one..
[09:24] <Adriano> bora: use http://ubuntuguide.org
[09:24] <Mirro> thx, kitche , Ill try it
[09:24] <DigitalNinja> is there a good website with some Linux motherboard info?
[09:24] <Adriano> it'll solve 90% of your questions
[09:24] <Mirro> kitche , will it work with FF 2.0?
[09:24] <sorush4_> JoseStefan: can I comment out the 3rd party repos and try upgradeing.. etc
[09:24] <rene32> sorush4_: In 6.06 hostap did the trick (WPA), I had to blacklist orinoco and hermes (loaded by default).
[09:24] <rene32> sorush4_: Can I unload a module?
[09:24] <rwscold> !devedee
[09:25] <sorush4_> rene32: rmmod
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about devedee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <SV452> hi all - i have two ubuntu dapper pc's connect with a router - what is the command to connect and see the files of the other pc??
[09:25] <fluxinator> can someone help me with X?
[09:25] <thomas_> hi guys, i'm having a problem with fglrx. It's detecting xserver-xorg version 7.0, but i have version 7.1 installed. Even the binary from ati's website is failing. How can i force xorg version 7.1?
[09:25] <JoseStefan> sorush4_, it could help, but the packages are already installed, so you might need to remove the 3rd party packages too
[09:25] <Tim91> xorg.conf file is empty kitche
[09:25] <easytiger> the_machine: mount -t smbfs //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword
[09:25] <Adriano> fluxinator: what about X?
[09:25] <fluxinator> I cant get it to start Adriano
[09:25] <fluxinator> Adriano: it whines about not having fonts
[09:25] <Pelo> bora look under in the system memu for Synaptic, that's where you install packages ( software),  most everything else it pretty much intuitive,  also try the ubuntu wiki and the forum, when you have "specific" questions , feel free to ask here
[09:25] <sorush4_> JoseStefan: how the hell do I find out what package they were?
[09:26] <The_Machine> sorry easytiger, but what i was asking is:  those shares that are *already* mounted that are sitting in "Places" - where in the filesystem are those located?
[09:26] <Adriano> your videocard is?
[09:26] <AkumAPRIME> is anyone else using firefox 2.0, and noticing that about:config browser.tabs.closebutton == 3 is NOT putting a button on the Right? Also, changing tabminwidth to 0 is NOT preventing scrolling!
[09:26] <Adriano> ohh
[09:26] <AkumAPRIME> I'm curious if anyone else experiences this
[09:26] <fluxinator> Adriano: i915
[09:26] <Adriano> can't find  font "fixed" innit?
 no idea. prob in a gnome folder in your home som,e place
[09:26] <Adriano> !font
[09:26] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[09:26] <Pelo> Tim91 if xorg.conf is mty it's because you have the wrong path for it
[09:26] <The_Machine> yeah
[09:27] <rene32> sorush4_: All modules --> no wireless extension found
[09:27] <JoseStefan> sorush4_, apt-cache policy pkgname, can help you with that, it will tell you from what repository it is coming from. When apt complains about a pkg, you can check it's origin and take action
[09:27] <fluxinator> Adriano: I cant make any sense of it
[09:27] <rellis> Wow, ubuntu server is pretty nice :)
[09:27] <Tim91> pelo is it sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:27] <refuze> Hey    anybody know how i     can disbale dead keys and have the '" button function   normally?
[09:27] <JoseStefan> it's =its
[09:27] <sorush4_> great JoseStefan thanks
[09:27] <Adriano> fluxinator: what's the doubt?
[09:27] <sorush4_> rene32: did you do lsmod
[09:27] <JoseStefan> sorush4_, hint: fglrx-6-8-0 doesnt seem to exist on the repos
[09:27] <fluxinator> Adriano: I dont know what steps to do
[09:27] <JoseStefan> !info fglrx-6-8-0 edgy
[09:28] <ubotu> Package fglrx-6-8-0 does not exist in edgy
[09:28] <Adriano> use the "manual" method, since synaptic is a graphical application
[09:28] <Pelo> tim91  yes,  don'T comfuse  xLL with X one one ,  x one one is what you type
[09:28] <Adriano> fluxinator: but
[09:28] <pithen> is there a repository I need to add to access older versions of apps? I need to install eclipse 3.1.2, but only 3.2.1 seems to be available to me
[09:28] <Pelo> Tim91 ,  if you still get a blank one,  try searching for it first , to make sure you have the right location
[09:28] <Jeeves__> has anyone got ddclient to work correctly?
[09:28] <rene32> sorush: I did modprobe orinoco, then iwconfig (no success) then rmmod orinoco for all modules
[09:28] <Tim91> ok, im trying to get glx to work can you help
[09:29] <Tim91> i found it
[09:29] <variant> rene32: orinoco should work without having to modprobe it
[09:29] <Bassetts> hi, does anyone know of a guide of how to setup a file/print server using ubuntu? accesible via xp and ubuntu
[09:29] <Pelo> Tim91 ,  I don'T know about glx, I just know about xorg.conf because it was the first thing I had to edit
[09:29] <Adriano> fluxinator: if your problem is that it asks for font "fixed" you should reinstall the package it's in using sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename
[09:29] <boson_> !glx
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <Tim91> ohh ok
[09:29] <Pelo> Bassetts  not sure but I think you need samba to do that
[09:30] <Adriano> fluxinator: problem is, I don't know the packagename, and I'm on Windows right now
[09:30] <tristan> !ati
[09:30] <Tim91> bonson ,you have some hard work ahead off you
[09:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:30] <Bassetts> well i have a spare pc laying around that was built to be a server so i thought it would help me use the terminal and gain some knowledge
[09:31] <JoseStefan> !samba > Bassetts
[09:31] <tonyyserver> Bassetts: I'm attempting the same thing at the moment, with varying luck
[09:31] <mhat> hmm, it might be a little noise here to actually ask questions but I'll give it a go anyway. Does anyone know how Edgy/Gnome decides if a user is allowed to do admin-ish thing? It seems to be tied to the admin group but not though the usually nss interface. For example if I have a user who is in the admin group via nss-ldap they don't have access to admin-ish things BUT if they are physically in the group file it works fine. I'm guessing something in gnome lan
[09:31] <mhat> d in determining group access the *wrong* way (tm).
[09:31] <maxflax> How do I connect a windows shared folder? using Samba or something perhaps?
[09:31] <Dr_willis> !samba
[09:31] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:31] <fluxinator> damn it
[09:31] <fluxinator> I cant do anything without the package na,e
[09:32] <JoseStefan> is samba from janeiro ? ;)
[09:32] <fluxinator> !pt
[09:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:32] <Kameli> Can the Option RenderAccel true give more FPS?
[09:32] <variant> maxflax: if your in the admin group you can use sudo, i think thats the crux of it
[09:32] <Adriano> fluxinator: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76046
[09:32] <variant> Kameli: test it with glxgears for your self
[09:32] <djmccormic1> anyone gotten lighttpd installed and working?
[09:33] <maxflax> variant, sudo to do what?
[09:33] <variant> maxflax: sudo applicationname
[09:33] <AkumAPRIME> hmm... I think I remember seeing sth about synching pda devices... but I no longer can find that option. anyone know what I mean?
[09:33] <variant> maxflax: will start application name as root (or "administrator"
[09:33] <maxflax> variant, I know what sudo is.. but what shall I start with sudo?
[09:34] <thomas_> how can i force xserver-fglrx to detect xorg version 7.1? fglrx is detecting xorg 7.0 when i have 7.1, and it's failing to start, please help me
[09:34] <variant> maxflax: oops, sorry i thought you were mhat
[09:35] <aSt3raL> has anyone ever had a problem with 2d video acceleration ?
[09:35] <variant> aSt3raL: no, never
[09:35] <Adriano> fluxinator: try sudo apt-get --reinstall install xfonts-base
[09:35] <kodat> eyo..anyone know linux well..i just installed it and need some help
[09:35] <kodat> if nobody minds helping
[09:35] <rwscold> Anyone know where i can do0wnload Devedee for linux?
[09:36] <aSt3raL> what could the problem be for takeing 100% cpu to move a window around?
[09:36] <variant> !ask | kodat
[09:36] <ubotu> kodat: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:36] <kodat> ah ok
[09:36] <TheGateKeeper> kodat: ask your specific question
[09:36] <kodat> well, how do i get my wireless working..the computer recognizes my card but i dont know how to get it on my network
[09:36] <variant> aSt3raL: full moon
[09:36] <Tim91>  ok, firstly, enable all the repositories and install xorg-server-xgl, How do i do this:)
[09:36] <Adriano> fluxinator: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76046&page=4
[09:36] <aSt3raL> im serious
[09:36] <Adriano> fluxinator: the end of the page
[09:37] <kodat> and i went through the help but cant figure it out..i hit enable but even with auto detect its not workin
[09:37] <aSt3raL> this 6.10 upgrade was a disaster
[09:37] <Pelo> kodat  you'll probably find a proceedure to do it in the forum
[09:37] <variant> aSt3raL: is it gnome/kde/fluxbox/etc what?
[09:37] <aSt3raL> gnome
[09:37] <JoseStefan> Tim91, #ubuntu-xgl
[09:37] <variant> aSt3raL: and moving any window will cause 100% cpu usage?
[09:37] <Adriano> fluxinator: it's help meant for breezy, but it might work
[09:37] <Pelo> aSt3raL  you're in the process of replacing every executable in your computer, what did you expect ?
[09:38] <aSt3raL> moving a window or scrolling in firefox all take 100% cpu and are slow
[09:38] <aSt3raL> i can see the screen refreshing
[09:38] <kodat> do i need to install drivers for all my hardware? im curious about that
[09:38] <variant> aSt3raL: and then it goes back to normal?
[09:38] <Dr_willis> kodat,  no
[09:38] <jickles> hi, I want to uncompress something to a folder that I don't have access to as a user - how do I do this as root?
[09:38] <qetesh> can I recover a FAT16 disk with Ubuntu?
[09:38] <kodat> so linux recognizes my geforce? i hope
[09:38] <aSt3raL> yea one thing i noticed is if i scroll in a terminal it doesnt do it
[09:38] <Dr_willis> ~info unp
[09:38] <fluxinator> Adriano: It doesnt work
[09:38] <variant> jickles: sudo the command or open the archive manager with gksudo
[09:38] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[09:38] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[09:39] <jickles> what is gksudo?
[09:39] <aSt3raL> text moves around fine its just the 2d graphics
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know how to watch the videos on Comedy Central's web site in Ubuntu?
[09:39] <variant> aSt3raL: what kind of hardware you got?
[09:39] <Pelo> kodat  ubuntu is suppose to recognise most if not all of your hardware
[09:39] <kodat> alright sweet, thanks pelo
[09:39] <aSt3raL> variant: amd sempron cpu onboard video
[09:39] <kodat> i take it i cant play games on linux right
[09:39] <Adriano> tonyyarusso: tried installing beta9 of flash on Firefox?
[09:39] <kodat> without some form of windows emulator?
[09:39] <variant> kodat: yeah it recognises it for what it is but there are no free drivers for it so you will have to isntall them your self manualy
[09:39] <stevenx> hello guys. i was wondring if it is possible to burn the .iso image to a DVD-R instead of a CD-R
[09:39] <Pelo> kodat  which doesn't mean you might not have a little configurating to do
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> Adriano: No, I have 7.  Does it work with 9?
[09:39] <jickles> I got an error saying authentication rejected
[09:40] <Adriano> tonyyarusso: you can find it at labs.adobe.com
[09:40] <Dr_willis> kodat,  some games have linux natoive ports
[09:40] <variant> kodat: yeah you can, most modern games wont run nativly though
[09:40] <Pelo> kodat  best place to check is the forum
[09:40] <Adriano> might, if it's a flash site
[09:40] <kodat> yeah i am hehe
[09:40] <Adriano> lemme see
[09:40] <kodat> checkin em all now
[09:40] <jickles> no authentication protocols  are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[09:40] <aSt3raL> variant: any ideas?
[09:40] <kodat> figure if you guys knew the answers it would be faster
[09:40] <variant> aSt3raL: glxinfo | grep direct
[09:40] <variant> aSt3raL: whats that command tell youi?
[09:40] <Pelo> kodat  as far as emulating wiindows for certain apps,  use  wine, it works quite well  ,   www,.winehq.org/download/
[09:40] <aSt3raL> give me a sec to boot into ubuntu 6.10 on that machine
[09:41] <boson_> Those of you working on xgl, check out this: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[09:41] <variant> np
[09:41] <Adriano> tonyyarusso: if they use wmv it's harder, the proper codecs and plugin need to be installed
[09:41] <pike_> kodat: there are some pretty good native linux games
[09:41] <aSt3raL> variant: a few minutes actually
[09:41] <kodat> pelo how does the emulator run resource wise, does it make games laggy and such
[09:41] <variant> aSt3raL: there is a problem witht he boot speed to?
[09:41] <fluxinator> Adriano: so in other words my box is now out of service?
[09:41] <variant> kodat: there is a small overhead, but if your hardware is relatively fast you wont notice
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> Adriano: The funny thing is I can play all of those, but they seem to be using some strange sort of wrapper for it, such that the Totem plugin ends up trying to play a gif file, and that's where I get an error.
[09:41] <Dr_willis> kodat,  depends on the game
[09:41] <kodat> alright sweet
[09:41] <aSt3raL> variant: no other problems ive noticed.. boot is fine, programs start and stop fine
[09:42] <Tschaka> kodat enemy territory ;] 
[09:42] <kodat> haha
[09:42] <kodat> well ive been usin windows for god knows how long..and im bored of it
[09:42] <variant> kodat: games such as unreal, quake4, doom3 etc have native versions for linux
[09:42] <kodat> cuz i like to tweak
[09:42] <Pelo> kodat  technicaly wine isn'T an emulator but it's not realy resource hungry,  but it is in develeopment and some apps have little annoyance in them
[09:42] <Adriano> fluxinator: no, it just means I can't give you an answer
[09:42] <aSt3raL> i downloaded the 'amd 64' version of 6.10 but in grub is says generic
[09:43] <kodat> i would have put linux on a partition but i accidentaly had gnome delete my original windows partition haha
[09:43] <aSt3raL> why is that?
[09:43] <JoseStefan> aSt3raL, that is as expected
[09:43] <pike_> kodat: free games like tremulous (fps) and wesnoth (strategy) are really very good quality
[09:43] <Adriano> tonyyarusso: it seems they use some sort of activeX, so I'd say it won't work outside of windows
[09:43] <kodat> heh
[09:43] <tristan> anyone has 3D accell under Edgy with a ATI card. I followed the how to but I couldn't make it work
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> Adriano: Eww
[09:43] <Pelo> kodat ,  have you tried partition magic ?  I think you can recover butnot sure
[09:43] <variant> tonyyarusso: what is the link please?
[09:43] <kodat> well right now there is no game i feel like playing, im waiting for warhammer
[09:44] <aSt3raL> is the 2.6.17 actually a generic kernel?
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> variant: comedycentral.com
[09:44] <variant> tonyyarusso: pls wait
[09:44] <kodat> i like this irc, when u type my name it highlights so i dont have to scroll to find stuff
[09:44] <Adriano> flash version they require is 7, so that's good
[09:44] <JoseStefan> kodat :D
[09:44] <kodat> haha
[09:44] <Pelo> kodat  and you can'T return the favor ?
[09:45] <kodat> well there are 6 people talkin to me
[09:45] <variant> tonyyarusso: should be possible to watch them
[09:45] <nolimitsoya> aSt3raL, when you say generic, do you mean mainline kernel.org-kernel?
[09:45] <UFO64> lol
[09:45] <kodat> so i dont know who to answer
[09:45] <kodat> haha
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> variant: Can you?
[09:45] <kodat> pelo your the man
[09:45] <JoseStefan> kodat, wait till you discover you can press TAB to autocomplete nicknames
[09:45] <variant> tonyyarusso: just gimmie a seck, am booting up my lappy now
[09:45] <The_Machine> anyone have experience installing citrix ICA client 9 on their unbuntu?
[09:45] <bruenig> JoseStefan, he's not ready for tht
[09:45] <The_Machine> mine is jacked
[09:45] <kodat> JoseStefan, lol niceee
[09:45] <aSt3raL> glxinfo returns X Error of failed request
[09:46] <chuckp> I setup a apache2 server and now I can't ping or visit any webpages
[09:46] <ianmacgregor> wowsers. 1042 nicks
[09:46] <aSt3raL> BadAlloc (isufficient resources for operation)
[09:46] <preglow> can anyone tell me why my usplash screen is black and white?
[09:46] <chuckp> can anyone help?
[09:46] <bruenig> ianmacgregor, to be safe I have 67 nicks in here
[09:46] <aSt3raL> *insufficient
[09:46] <ianmacgregor> bruenig: 67 nicks???
[09:46] <kodat> Pelo, is there like..any interface that sorta has similar mac type..like the bubble buttons stuff like that
[09:46] <variant> preglow: you have a 1940's gfx card :P
[09:46] <aSt3raL> variant: did you get that?
[09:46] <JoseStefan> preglow, 64bit ubuntu ?
[09:47] <kodat> Pelo, any recommended interfaces
[09:47] <preglow> JoseStefan: yup, correct
[09:47] <variant> aSt3raL: what?
[09:47] <Pelo> kodat  I think you mean themes,   check the system menu for the theme manager
[09:47] <kodat> Pelo,  yeah themes thanks
[09:47] <JoseStefan> preglow, i think it was set to vga to avoid a bug that could not be corrected in time for release
[09:47] <nidisi> Can I install Ubuntu on my SATA?
[09:47] <nidisi> !sata
[09:47] <kodat> Pelo, im gona work on that after i get my wireless to work haha..i had hard lines they are troublesome
[09:47] <preglow> JoseStefan: yeah, the resolution looks very dodgy as well
[09:47] <aSt3raL> variant: it says X error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <preglow> JoseStefan: will this be fixed in an update?
[09:48] <Pelo> kodat  there is also an artmanager somewhere my have some more themes in there to dl
[09:48] <aSt3raL> my splash screen is black and white too
[09:48] <variant> aSt3raL: sounds like a bug int he 3d driver
[09:48] <ehird> nidisi: yes
[09:48] <JoseStefan> preglow, not sure
[09:48] <rwscold> Hi i am trying to install something and its giving me this error su: Authentication failure
[09:48] <rwscold>  what is that?
[09:48] <variant> aSt3raL: what graphics chip is it?
[09:48] <aSt3raL> its not supposed to be black and white? haha
[09:48] <hckrSid> Anyone successfully got driverloader working on 6.10?
[09:48] <Adriano> rwscold: read ubuntuguide.org please
[09:48] <JoseStefan> preglow, it only affects 64bit ubuntu + nvidia, afaik
[09:48] <kodat> Pelo, sweet yeah, right now thats not priority..just need my wireless to work..i dont even know how to got what im on working cuz the network name is completely different to what i should be
[09:48] <variant> rwscold: you use sudo apt-get install appname to install software
[09:48] <Adriano> su is not used on ubuntu
[09:48] <variant> rwscold: you cant use the su command
[09:48] <nidisi> ehird,  does it need any special command, to get it working, cause I get 'no hdd present'
[09:48] <preglow> JoseStefan: correct + correct
[09:48] <variant> rwscold: as you dont know the root password
[09:49] <preglow> JoseStefan: but ok, then, i'll just keep an eye open and see what happens, thanks
[09:49] <ehird> nidisi: WFM
[09:49] <nidisi> WFM?
[09:49] <aSt3raL> variant: nvidia geforce 6150 le (onboard)
[09:49] <kodat> Pelo, the eth0 which i have no idea what it means
[09:49] <JoseStefan> preglow, at least you wont get the bug
[09:49] <Pelo> kodat I am realy not the one to help you with wireless stuff,  my setup is pretty simple ,  computer > modem
[09:49] <variant> aSt3raL: ok, you dont have the nvidia driver installed?
[09:49] <Cale> aw, the minimisation bug in beep media player still isn't fixed, oh well.
[09:49] <Pelo> kodat  eth0 would be your ethernet card ( ie your network card)
[09:50] <Almindor> hello
[09:50] <aSt3raL> variant: i never installed a specific driver no
[09:50] <variant> aSt3raL: ok, thats why the error happens with glxinfo
[09:50] <Almindor> does ubuntu graphical installer allow me to install on second partition of second disk without ruining the 1st one? (grub can go to MBR of that disk)
[09:50] <kodat> Pelo, ahh..i didnt know eth was the card
[09:50] <kodat> Pelo, i wonder what my wireless card name is..maybe its the lo
[09:50] <Adriano> Almindor: should
[09:51] <nidisi> ehird,  WFM?
[09:51] <nidisi> !wfm
[09:51] <Adriano> Almindor: no warranties
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wfm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <djmccormic1> anyone mind taking a look at my problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1673339#post1673339
[09:51] <aSt3raL> anyone have a link for nvidia drivers?
[09:51] <Adriano> nvidia.com
[09:51] <Pelo> kodat  I have one of those lo card to but I don't have a wireless one so that's probably not it ,  have you checked the forum for instructions ?
[09:51] <Pelo> !wireless
[09:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:51] <pike_> aSt3raL: wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:52] <variant> tonyyarusso: doesnt work here yet, will take another look at it and see what i can do
[09:52] <kodat> Pelo, im workin on forums as we speak..goin through lots of threads that have nothing to do with my problem
[09:52] <Pelo> !wireless > kodat
[09:52] <sorush4_> ho do I scroll up and down in the terminal in full screen mode
[09:52] <Pelo> !wireless > kodat
[09:52] <swuboo> I'm having a problem with lm-sensors in Edgy, if anyone would care to hear about it.
[09:52] <variant> tonyyarusso: probably the files are damaged to only work with windows computers (digital restrictions management)
[09:52] <Pelo> !wireless > pelo
[09:52] <kodat> Pelo,  whats !wireless mean
[09:52] <kodat> haha
[09:52] <kodat> is it some emote or somethin
[09:53] <Pelo> kodat  way to get some info from the bot
[09:53] <kodat> ah ok
[09:53] <kodat> !wireless
[09:53] <Pelo> check your pm
[09:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:53] <flail> I'm trying to build a Ubuntu .deb from a source package using dpkg-buildpackage, but I get the following error: "dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: syntax error in control file debian/control at line 12: line with unknown format (not field-colon-value) - any ideas?
[09:53] <eztk> man the torrents are slow
[09:53] <swuboo> I've been following the instructions for getting lm-sensors working, and it all goes reasonably well until I try to run sensors -s.
[09:53] <kodat> Pelo, ah i see
[09:53] <Jeeves___> is that a no on the ddclient question then?
[09:53] <eztk> !download
[09:53] <eztk> !torrent
[09:53] <boson_> is beryl only for ATI?
[09:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[09:53] <UFO64> can anyone gimmie a bump in the right direction? I get this error from trying to comepile something "error: request for member 'cache' in something not a structure or union"
[09:53] <cyzie> /dev/sda3          0       -       0          0    0  Empty
[09:53] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[09:53] <cyzie> /dev/sda4          0       -       0          0    0  Empty
[09:53] <cyzie> what does that mean?
[09:53] <JoseStefan> djmccormic1, you could check if the webserver has logs, and check why it is not working correctly when started
[09:54] <pike_> you can also open a private chat with the bot by /msg ubotu whatever to play
[09:54] <gummibaerchen> Hi. Is there any irish company sending out the Ubuntu CDs? I don't want to wait until the arrive here from the Netherlands.
[09:54] <fluxinator> is there anyone who can help with X and its font issues that I am currently having?
[09:54] <TC`> damn a bit hard to understand ubuntu
[09:54] <TC`> :|
[09:54] <RaethDragon> Why does Edgy's loading boot screen not show any start-up info?
[09:54] <Dr_willis> TC`,  i find it rather trivial. :)
[09:54] <variant> UFO64: sounds like a bug int eh program
[09:54] <kodat> Pelo, crap i dont remember any of the name so the hardware i have on this comp, i guess i shoulda wrote it down
[09:54] <voodoo> what country has fast mirrors,,,,,,,im upgrading to edgy but download goes to slow!!
[09:54] <sorush4_> ho do I scroll up and down in the terminal in full screen mode
[09:54] <LjL> !slowrepos | voodoo
[09:54] <MetaMorfoziS> voodoo:  germany
[09:54] <Pelo> gummibaerchen  I read somewhere that canonical would not send out anymore free cds
[09:54] <ubotu> voodoo: Some of the Ubuntu repositories may have slow response time or time out altogether, due to the many connections from people upgrading to Edgy. Please be patient, bandwidth is a limited resource unfortunately!
[09:54] <sorush4_> how do I scroll up and down in the terminal in full screen mode
[09:55] <variant> sorush4_: ctrl pgeup
[09:55] <Pelo> kodat try looking in the hardware monitor
[09:55] <variant> sorush4_: or ctrl up arrow
[09:55] <kodat> Pelo, wheres that
[09:55] <gummibaerchen> Pelo: that is my problem :)
[09:55] <voodoo> MetaMorfoziS,  ok :)
[09:55] <RaethDragon> Or rather: How does one detect errors during Edgy's start-up if it shows no info?
[09:55] <MetaMorfoziS> sorush4_: ctrl shif +pageup /down
[09:55] <MetaMorfoziS> iirc
[09:55] <TC`> i got two hdd, one 8gb other 40gb, i installed ubuntu on 8gb, but i can't see the other hdd with 40gb of data left from windows in the folders (iso, .mp3, .avi ect.) and even that hdd isin't visible
[09:55] <jwl007> is there a gui for adding an odbc entry?
[09:55] <Dr_willis> RaethDragon,  hit escape,
[09:55] <gummibaerchen> but i can download the image as my connection is to slow.. so i want it by snail mail
[09:55] <swuboo> Anyone know why "sudo sensors -s" is returning "Can't access procfs/sysfs file" in Edgy?
[09:55] <Dr_willis> RaethDragon,  or disable  the eye candy
[09:56] <RaethDragon> Dr_willis: how do I disable it?
[09:56] <Pelo> kodat  in the system menu , under admin,  not sure what it is called in english
[09:56] <JoseStefan> TC`, you have to mount it
[09:56] <Dr_willis> swuboo,  noticed that last night also.
[09:56] <JoseStefan> !ntfs > TC`
[09:56] <UFO64> variant : I am trying to install (or compile at least) imlib 1.9
[09:56] <kodat> Pelo, what language to u speak
[09:56] <Dr_willis> RaethDragon,  the nosplash boot option is one way
[09:56] <TC`> it is connected
[09:56] <boson_> Anyone get glx to work yet?
[09:56] <variant> gummibaerchen: dapper is the only version being distributed free of charge on cd. edgy will not be
[09:56] <TC`> or with commands oslt?
[09:56] <pike_> !ntfs > TC`
[09:56] <Pelo> kodat  french , english,  a little spanish
[09:56] <variant> UFO64: whats up with the version that apt supplies?
[09:56] <JoseStefan> TC`, mount as in "software" mounting not physically ;)
[09:56] <boson_> Whenever I start up beryl-manager everything just freezes
[09:56] <TC`> format?
[09:56] <fluxinator> anyone can help with my problem
[09:56] <Pelo> kodat  but my setup is in french
[09:56] <swuboo> Dr_willis:  It's especially annoying since my chipset wasn't supported until Edgy.  Now that the default install recognizes my chipset, it doesn't work!
[09:56] <kodat> Pelo, ah alright, nevermind then haha
[09:56] <jwl007> !odbc
[09:56] <kodat> Pelo, thought u were english
[09:56] <kodat> Pelo, err spanish
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about odbc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <politik> Hi. I have dapper installed, and I am attempting to upgrade to edgy, but aptitude shows several conflicts. How do you guys recommend I fix this
[09:57] <TC`> is there a link with this my question?
[09:57] <pike_> !ntfs
[09:57] <stevenx> hello guys. i was wondring if it is possible to burn the .iso image to a DVD-R instead of a CD-R
[09:57] <JoseStefan> !ntfs | TC`
[09:57] <stevenx> no one seems to answer this question
[09:57] <variant> stevenx: yeah
[09:57] <stevenx> :-(
[09:57] <gummibaerchen> variant: i know :) but i want it by snail mail from any company .. i don't care... because i actually can _not_ download it :)
[09:57] <sorush4_> after doing apt-get autoremove once I keep getting the message that I need to do it again with a load of other package to be removed..
[09:57] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:57] <stevenx> variant: thank you
[09:57] <ubotu> TC`: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:57] <variant> stevenx: it is
[09:57] <TC`> ntfs
[09:57] <sorush4_> what can I do
[09:57] <swuboo> stevenx:  I doesn't see why you couldn't.
[09:57] <TC`> !ntfs
[09:57] <Dr_willis> stevenx,  never seen that work...
[09:57] <stevenx> variant: that was the 3rd time i've asked.
[09:57] <stevenx> i will try though.
[09:57] <Dr_willis> stevenx,  and i accidently did it once with k3b - it wouldent boot.
[09:57] <stevenx> and will let you guys know
[09:57] <stevenx> ;-)
[09:57] <kodat> anyone know where the hardware monitor is in ubuntu, i dont see it
[09:58] <AkumAPRIME> device manager I think
[09:58] <AkumAPRIME> system
[09:58] <Pelo> kodat  might be called peripheral manaer
[09:58] <Pelo> devide manager sounds about right
[09:58] <AkumAPRIME> system, admin
[09:58] <kodat> ah its in admin
[09:58] <billapi> nolimitsoya: billapi again. my bad. apparently, i dont know how to use Toast. went to ubuntu site and followed mac osx cd burn instructions. its working. now for the fun part =). thanks again for the assist.
[09:58] <kodat> i was lookin under pref
[09:58] <kodat> thanks
[09:58] <Pelo> ...
[09:59] <jwl007> anyone know of a gui for adding odbc entries?
[09:59] <nolimitsoya> billapi, np, gl and hf :)
[09:59] <sorush4_> when I try to remove python apt-get remove python I keep getting the mesasge that it will also remove critial apps like adept and etc.. how can I fix this ?
[09:59] <pike_> sorush4_: why remove python?
[09:59] <nolimitsoya> sorush4_, you cant
[09:59] <kodat> Pelo, haha nice all my hardware is unknown..looks like i got lots of driver installations to go
[09:59] <sorush4_> I ahve a problem when I try to do apt-get upgrade I keep getting the mesasge that 31 apps are not upgraded..
[09:59] <JoseStefan> sorush4_, some python stuff are needed by the system
[09:59] <sorush4_> I don't know why..
[09:59] <UFO64> Variant: gnomelib requires a imlib version >1.9 and the program installed though the apt app wont work
[09:59] <Pelo> sorush4_ you can't python is a dependecies for those apps,  they need it to work
[10:00] <jmitchj> !pastebin
[10:00] <sorush4_> how do i fix this problem of mine..
[10:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:00] <nolimitsoya> sorush4_, you could do it anyway, and just reinstall kubuntu-desktop afterwards...
[10:00] <JoseStefan> sorush4_, use: sudo apt-get install   to upgrade each one individually
[10:00] <Pelo> kodat  you donT' need to install all your drivers,  the fact that they are unknown just means that ubu is just working off some more generic drivers, which are usualy fine
[10:00] <Dr_willis> sorush4_,  try the sudo aptitude dist-upgrade  - perhaps?
[10:01] <kodat> Pelo, so in which cases would i need to install the drivers
[10:01] <AkumAPRIME> yeah, unknowns worked for my resolution issue
[10:01] <variant> kodat: this is not the case
[10:01] <variant> kodat: run this command : sudo update-pciids
[10:01] <variant> kodat: then rerun lspci
[10:01] <kodat> variant, heh..how do i run the command..is there some run thing somewhere
[10:01] <variant> kodat: do it in a terminal
[10:01] <variant> kodat: gnome-terminal
[10:01] <aSt3raL> heh i installed the nvidia driver and now x wont start at all
[10:01] <bruenig> kodat, Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[10:02] <jmitchj> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28720/
[10:02] <variant> aSt3raL: damn those proprietry drivers
[10:02] <Pelo> kodat  application > accessories  > terminal
[10:02] <UFO64> has anyone gotten IMLIBS 1.9.2 to install? i have having trouble with it
[10:02] <sorush4_> Dr_willis: I think doing it indiviually is great.. but its very manuall.
[10:02] <kodat> Pelo, thans
[10:02] <AkumAPRIME> how can I get amarok to use my  music collection on an external ntfs drive as the collection for contextual info? as of now it refuses :(
[10:02] <pike_> kodat: the only thing youll probably be concerned with is nvidia drivers and you can search for nvidia on wiki.ubuntu.com very easy to install
[10:02] <TC`> thanks
[10:02] <TC`> ;] 
[10:02] <TC`> but i'll need lot more help in the future with linux :}
[10:02] <Pelo> AkumAPRIME  is your ntfs drive mounted ?
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[10:03] <JoseStefan> !ops | jvolkman
[10:03] <CoolBeer> Ok, so this is my setup: I've got a server here and a server at BlueEagles place. We've set up a VPN tunnel across. Now we want to make machines connected to my server on my subnet able to access windows smb clients on machines connected on BlueEagles subnet. Anyone got any nice ideas about which approach we should take?
[10:03] <ubotu> jvolkman: Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[10:03] <kodat> variant, hmm weird..it asks for p/w wheni type in the sudo command but it doesnt let me type it in
[10:03] <beUg> hi all
[10:03] <fuoco> is there an app in edgy that can do voip with google talk ?
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> I'm having trouble with CUPS configuration.  I got the printer set up, and it works on that box, but I'm getting "connection refused" and being unable to use it from another machine.
[10:03] <kodat> variant, nvm i see how it works
[10:03] <UFO64> kodat: its typeing it it, it just wont show it
[10:03] <variant> kodat: yes, it does. you wont see any ** or whatever, just asume that your password is being entered
[10:03] <UFO64> kodat: type it in as normal and hit enter, it will work
[10:04] <kodat> variant, yah ijust noticed before..anyway i returned the lspci..whats this doin?
[10:04] <sbalneav> tonyyarusso: Have you gone to global-settings -> share printer?
[10:04] <rwscold> variant  iam trying to install tovid and i really struggle with tar files how do u propose i install this?
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> sbalneav: I need to do this from the command line.
[10:05] <kodat> variant, ah i see it shows card and now i gotta find the stuff to install
[10:05] <aSt3raL> well at least i backed up my xorg.conf
[10:05] <variant> rwscold: what do you mean you are struggleing?
[10:05] <sbalneav> tonyyarusso: Why, is the machine remote?
[10:05] <Pelo> rwscold  there is an ubuntu/deb package for tovid
[10:05] <rwscold> i am following its install guide and its not made specifically for ubuntu like with the su command
[10:05] <maxflax> I need some help in Alsa-drivers compilation!
[10:05] <JoseStefan> !info tovid
[10:05] <bruenig> tovid is garbage
[10:05] <rwscold> oh i searche dbut couldnt finsd it
[10:05] <Laniboy> Hi, I'm trying to install 6.10 from the live cd. I've verified the downloaded .iso with the md5 value and I also ran a verification after I booted from the cd. All fine this far. But then I get a "Failed to start X server" error. If I look into the error messages little deeper it says "no screens found". I've tried many different vga-modes as well as the "safe graphics mode option". None does work. I've checked the foru
[10:05] <ubotu> Package tovid does not exist in any distro I know
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> sbalneav: Doesn't have X installed.  (server)
[10:06] <Pelo> rwscold  try devedee , much quicker ,
[10:06] <rwscold> all i want is a simple program that converts xvid/avi blah blah to dvd that will then burn it to dvd
[10:06] <internetarchitec> im having trouble updating to edgy, I keep getting the error message:  "Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubun...er/Release.gpg Temporary failure resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org'"
[10:06] <sbalneav> tonyyarusso: Then you'll have to manually edit the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file.
[10:06] <rwscold> pelo i could not find devedee
[10:07] <Pelo> rwscold   http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> sbalneav: Yeah, I've been trying to do that, and think I've allowed everything I can come up with, but still no luck.
[10:07] <kodat> man linux is awsome..for some reason its makin my battery last waaaaaaay longer than its suppose to
[10:07] <jmitchj> is anyone able to help with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28720/
[10:07] <maxflax> I need some help in Alsa-drivers compilation!
[10:07] <TC`> some decoders or plugins are asking to instal :| to play mp3
[10:07] <TC`> i'm confused
[10:07] <LjL> jmitchj: i think that PLF repository is curerntly down
[10:08] <LjL> !mp3 > TC`
[10:08] <jmitchj> oh ok
[10:08] <grout_work> how can i add a user using cli?
[10:08] <jmitchj> thanks
[10:08] <LjL> grout_work: adduser username
[10:08] <TC`>  !mp3
[10:08] <TC`> !mp3
[10:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:08] <grout_work> LjL, with that make a home dir?
[10:08] <LjL> grout_work: yes
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> sbalneav: I have All 192.168.1.0/16 _and_ Allow all
[10:08] <LjL> grout_work: (if you prefer not to, there is an option)
[10:08] <internetarchitec> im having trouble updating to edgy, I keep getting the error message:  "Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubun...er/Release.gpg Temporary failure resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org'"
[10:08] <budluva> hey guys, looking for some help here...just popped in the 6.10 desktop iso and there's no install icon when i boot into livecd....is there anyway to do a text install without going into livecd mode?
[10:08] <pike_> grout_work: then you might have to check the groups they are a member of. often sound etc isnt setup
[10:08] <Akuma_> could anyone take a look at this xorg.conf bit and tell me what i'm doing wrong? http://attachr.com/3631
[10:08] <laz45> ok
[10:08] <LjL> TC`: no need to type that in the channel, you already have a private message from Ubotu
[10:09] <TC`> oh
[10:09] <kodat> whats that wiki website for nvidia?
[10:09] <dnite> On the ubuntu-guide for edgy.. it tells you how to install nvidia beta drivers.. but the apt-get can't find the libxorg-sched-yield-hack0 package.. is this a problem? or can i overlook this package w/o breaking my system?
[10:09] <HaroldJohnson> Hello everyone.  How are you all today?  What's the best strategy for backing up my Ubuntu installation prior to running an apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:09] <pike_> wiki.ubuntu.com you can search for pretty much anything there
[10:09] <flail> !backup
[10:10] <flail> ubotu let me down ;)
[10:10] <kodat> pike_, thansk
[10:10] <knewt> is it possible to get into the expert mode on the dvd installer?
[10:10] <HaroldJohnson> !backup
[10:10] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[10:10] <adamb> hi... I have a total NEWBIE question.. I'm using NTP with my time set to EDT yet for some reason my system time INSISTS on being GMT -4
[10:10] <Pelo> dnite  use the backup utility and copy the resuling file to a dvd or something
[10:10] <Daniel4711> Hi, is there any documentation for 6.10?
[10:10] <Roberto> Re :)
[10:10] <adamb> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2006-10-26 10:12 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York
[10:10] <sbalneav> tonyyarusso: Are you wanting IPP printer sharing, or lpd printer sharing?
[10:10] <kodat> Pelo, hey heres a stupid question..how to i launch this .exe
[10:10] <Nox_ville> hey ppl.. ive got a network card on KWiFiManager and it finds networks but wont let me connect to one.. the "Switch to network" button is ghosted out and "Out of Range" is displayed.. even though i know the network is in range.... please help
[10:10] <HaroldJohnson> Pelo: Which backup utility is that?  Is it the command "backup'
[10:10] <HaroldJohnson> ?
[10:10] <adamb> Fri Oct 27 12:10:35 EDT 2006
[10:10] <AkumAPRIME> kodat, you dont? Wine?
[10:11] <Pelo> HaroldJohnson  in system > admin
[10:11] <Pelo> kodat  what .exe ?
[10:11] <kodat> AkumAPRIME, oh so i need wine to install drivers?
[10:11] <ehird> ...
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> sbalneav: Either?  Both?  IPP seems to be the default; if I could use it remotely through http that would be awesome.
[10:11] <kodat> Pelo, this drive for my wireless card
[10:11] <kodat> Pelo, driveR*
[10:11] <Pelo> kodat  you need to find linux drivers for you card
[10:11] <ProN00b> wheres the resticted formats info for edgy ?
[10:11] <pike_> Nox_ville: can you sudo iwconfig ath0 essid whatevernetworkname then sudo dhclient ath0 ?
[10:11] <kodat> Pelo, blah i got it off the linux wireless page
[10:11] <kodat> Pelo, lemme look again
[10:12] <Pelo> kodat  and it won'T run by itself ?
[10:12] <Kannix> Hi all
[10:12] <sbalneav> tonyyarusso: You should just need to change the line that says "Listen localhost:631" to "Listen 631", and do a invoke-rc.d cupsys restart
[10:12] <nettogaurav> hello
[10:12] <kodat> Pelo, well now that i look at it..its not off a linux website..it mighta just been a windows driver
[10:12] <AkumAPRIME> kodat, by any chance are you trying to get video drivers fom a windows exe file to alter resolution stuff?
[10:12] <HaroldJohnson> Pelo: Thanks
[10:13] <kodat> AkumAPRIME, na im tryin to get my wireless card to work
[10:13] <grout_work> how can i make it so the new user i added can put files into /var/www
[10:13] <AkumAPRIME> sorry, thats what I meant... what card Kodat
[10:13] <Pelo> kodat  , chch the ste again for info on installing the driver
[10:13] <AkumAPRIME> I can save you time I think
[10:13] <lupine_85> grout_work: add them to the www-data group, I think
[10:13] <preglow> can anyone tell me why update-grub puts (hd0, 0) as root in menu.lst when the real root is hd0,2? this is damned annoying
[10:13] <AkumAPRIME> I just dealt with the same faqs youre reading, I think
[10:13] <Kannix> I have a question about Ubuntu software update cycles. My wife is having problems with her Suse, because she always has to wait till the next release to get up to date software. They do not keep it up, other than patches for security reasons.
[10:13] <AkumAPRIME> all that extract from .exe files.. BS!!
[10:13] <lupine_85> (make sure that the gid of /var/www is actually www-data)
[10:13] <grout_work> lupine_85 how do i add to groupls?
[10:13] <AkumAPRIME> at least for me
[10:13] <HaroldJohnson> Pelo: Actually, the utility isn't there, but perhaps that's because I'm using Xubuntu.
[10:13] <Kannix> Is Ubuntu keeping packages up to date, or do you also have to wait till the next release?
[10:13] <mrbond82> Hey all
[10:13] <kodat> its a dell wireless 1390
[10:13] <tahorg> Kannix: this is the definition of a release.
[10:14] <nettogaurav> i want to do java prog in jubuntu can anybody help
[10:14] <lupine_85> grout_work: I just edit /etc/group
[10:14] <kodat> AkumAPRIME, dell wireless 1390
[10:14] <Kannix> tahorg: What is?
[10:14] <lupine_85> thre's probably a GUI app somewhere
[10:14] <m0> hi, I am wondering what can cause the wireless connection to be slow?
[10:14] <Pelo> HaroldJohnson  possibly,  check the package manager in xubuntu for a backup app
[10:14] <AkumAPRIME> and if you go to system, admin, network setting, you don't see wireless connection?
[10:14] <tahorg> Kannix: no major software upgrade, only security and bugfix
[10:14] <jwl007> where can i find odbcconfig?
[10:14] <m0> why is the wireless connection slow on linux ?
[10:14] <ricard1> Hello, I have a problem with sound in ubuntu. Each time a hear a cd or an mp3 file and then go to sites as youtube or google video, the sounds from those sites won't play. I have to restart the computer and for them to have sound. Does anyone knows either how to fix it or how to restablish the sound without rebooting? Thanks
[10:14] <AkumAPRIME> its not for me m0
[10:14] <Kannix> tahorg: hmm
[10:14] <aSt3raL> ah got the drivers fixed
[10:14] <grout_work> lupine_85: how do i add the user to a group?
[10:14] <m0> hmm can it be drivere
[10:14] <tahorg> Kannix: this is the same for ubuntu. But the release cycle is 6 month long
[10:14] <aSt3raL> thanks variant
[10:14] <The_Jack_of_Club> so whats really new in 6.10?
[10:14] <nettogaurav> i want to do java prog in jubuntu can anybody help
[10:14] <tahorg> Kannix: so you have to wait less
[10:14] <jwl007> grout_work, adduser username newgroupname
[10:15] <jrib> ubotu: tell ricard1 about flash
[10:15] <mjelva> i'm trying to compile lirc-modules-source, but i get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28721/. i've extracted the source, and placed the modules/lirc/ directory in /usr/src/linux-source/2.6.17/ so it's with the other modules directory (i386). am i doing this right or not? what seems to be the problem?
[10:15] <lupine_85> !groups
[10:15] <nettogaurav> i want to do java prog in jubuntu can anybody help
[10:15] <Kannix> tahorg: So if you need a new feature of package X, you have to wait 6 months?
[10:15] <jrib> ricard1: you want to go to the site ubotu sent you and read about setting up flash with aoss
[10:15] <philip__> m0, try turning off and on your modem/router. It happened to me too until I rebooted those
[10:15] <pike_> m0: maybe a driver thing maybe just dns type "cat /etc/resolv.conf" you should normally have just one nameserver 192.168. maybe other stuff
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <digit> hi all
[10:15] <Kannix> tahorg: Or leave the package manager behind and install from source?
[10:15] <tahorg> Kannix: the is another way to have bleeding edge versions is to use the backport repository
[10:15] <Laniboy> The_Jack_of_Club: An X server failiure during the boot of the LiveCD is new ;)
[10:15] <The_Jack_of_Club> wasnt aiglx supposed to be integrated in this version?
[10:15] <Laniboy> atleast for me :(
[10:15] <The_Jack_of_Club> hahaha
[10:16] <ricard1> ok, thanks!!!!
[10:16] <Pelo> ricard1  I use to have a similar problem  flash stuff would have no sound if another app was using sound at the same time ,  I didn'T need to restart the comp, I just needed to close the broswer and restart it with nothing else using the sounds card
[10:16] <Daniel4711> Anyone know how I can find out if I'm running a 64 bit or 32 bit kernel?
[10:16] <AkumAPRIME> kodat?
[10:16] <michaels__> how do I make my multimedia keyboard's "sleep" button not hybernate? I had it set up before as "start terminal" but then I did a clean install and it actually works as sleep. =\
[10:16] <The_Jack_of_Club> os[jon@nereid, Linux 2.6.17-10-386 i686] 
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> sbalneav: Well, it still won't print, but links2 192.168.1.5:631/help changed from "Connection refused" to "403: forbidden" if that's any indication
[10:16] <kodat> AkumAPRIME, hmm?
[10:17] <Nox_ville> pike_ : sorry about the lag... yes ive done both of those but now what?
[10:17] <laz45> sudo ./Scan sudo: ./Scan: command not found??? I'm trying to run Scan script as root but doesn't work...
[10:17] <AkumAPRIME> system, admin, networking doesnt have a wireless connection option?
[10:17] <Kannix> tahorg: Is it possibel to upgrade painlessly from one release to the next, or is it a lot of hassle? I mean, besides obvious troublemakers, like a major new X.org release or somesuch.
[10:17] <hamer> jak mozna zmienic haslo na lin??
[10:17] <tahorg> Kannix: is really easy
[10:17] <Kannix> tahorg: Like Debina, right?
[10:17] <yukio> Sorry, can someone explain me THIS? http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/553/schermatayg4.png
[10:17] <Kannix> tahorg: Debian I meant :)
[10:17] <ricard1> Pelo: I have tried closing the browser, but did not work. But I'll go trough the installation pages. THanks.
[10:17] <jrib> !pl | hamer
[10:17] <Laniboy> I think that an ATI X850 XT PCIe should be a common gfx card, somehow it still won't work. I think that is really bad testing. :(
[10:17] <Daniel4711> laz45> Is it executable?
[10:17] <kodat> AkumAPRIME, it does, but even when i activate it it doesnt catch a connection
[10:17] <hamer> aha
[10:17] <ubotu> hamer: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:17] <pike_> Nox_ville: was it able to acquire an ipaddress? if so you should be connected
[10:17] <feg> !nm-applet
[10:17] <AkumAPRIME> ahah!!! are you SURE you have the SSID spelled right?
[10:18] <AkumAPRIME> caps and everything!!
[10:18] <sbalneav> tonyyarusso: Are you trying to use the web interface to modify the printers?  If that's what you're trying to do, add the cupsys user to the "shadow" group in /etc/groups, and restart cups again.
[10:18] <hamer> a od ciebie dostane pomoc ??
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm-applet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <AkumAPRIME> that was my issue, I'm telling you, check that before you go the .exe route, which I could get to work
[10:18] <mjelva> i'm trying to compile lirc-modules-source, but i get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28721/. i've extracted the source, and placed the modules/lirc/ directory in /usr/src/linux-source/2.6.17/ so it's with the other modules directory (i386). am i doing this right or not? what seems to be the problem?
[10:18] <sbalneav> tonyyarusso: It needs to be able to read the shadow file for authentication to use the web interface.
[10:18] <Kannix> tahorg: Just apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> i have installed simple x86 edgy for a dualcore 64bit intel processor, can i fix this without any reisntall?
[10:18] <AkumAPRIME> couldnt
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> sbalneav: So far I was just using the web interface to see if I could get a response at all.
[10:18] <paulgb1> What has System->Administration->Disks been replaced with in Edgy Eft?
[10:18] <grout_work> i added the user to the www-data group and then ftp in to test but i couldnt make a file in the /var/www dir
[10:18] <kodat> AkumAPRIME, lemme check, i think so..i do have a password on it but i gotta see what type of encryption it is
[10:18] <tahorg> Kannix: that's it.
[10:18] <pike_> Nox_ville: assuming that worked and its just a kde thing id /join kubuntu theyd be more help
[10:19] <Kannix> tahorg: ok, so Ubuntu is a good choice for the wife :)
[10:19] <AkumAPRIME> kodat: if it's not perfect, you'll see no connection. I DO wish they had a network detector, it would make things better
[10:19] <Kannix> tahorg: thanks for the help!
[10:19] <laz45> Daniel4711: Don't know :P I'm new to Linux :P
[10:19] <feg> i got a problem with missing icon: network-manager dont work after a fresh edgy install. somebody knows how to solve the problem?
[10:19] <kodat> AkumAPRIME, hehe yeah
[10:19] <tahorg> Kannix: that's what _my_ wife uses :)
[10:19] <Pelo> MetaMorfoziS  in synaptic search for kernel images and install the one you need,  next time you boot grub should pick the higher one automaticaly
[10:19] <Kannix> tahorg: One more question
[10:19] <grout_work> lupine_85 i added the user to the www-data group and then ftp in to test but i couldnt make a file in the /var/www dir
[10:19] <kodat> AkumAPRIME, its encrypted with 128wep
[10:19] <Kannix> tahorg: Is there a minimal netinst CD, or do I have to download the full monty?
[10:19] <Nox_ville> pike_: i did that and it assigned me a IPv6 address, not a IPv4 one.. so when i try to ping this (windows) pc it says : network unreachable
[10:19] <Sgeo> Hi all
[10:20] <Kannix> tahorg: I am firewall to the max, so I cannot torrent :(
[10:20] <Sgeo> Dist-upgrade failed..
[10:20] <Johnbon> hi i know somebody who tried to install 6.10 but it froze on him during install ..
[10:20] <Daniel4711> laz45> Try chmod +x Scan
[10:20] <Kannix> tahorg: +ed
[10:20] <kodat> AkumAPRIME, so should i choose ascii or hex to type in the password
[10:20] <Johnbon> does anyone know what might cause this ?
[10:20] <lupine_85> does the ftp server allow writing to that directory ?
[10:20] <grout_work> yes
[10:20] <tahorg> Kannix: mmh, no I don't think there is.
[10:20] <Kannix> Johnbon: No internet access? Behind a proxy?
[10:20] <tahorg> Kannix: are you familiar with linux and debian in particular ?
[10:20] <AkumAPRIME> idk kodat. sorry. but if your wifi connection option is there, then I THINK (but not sure) that its all set up, you just need the perfectly correct option
[10:20] <Laniboy> Johnbon: no, I have the same problem but I've only been ignored :(
[10:20] <Daniel4711> laz45> Also, make sure the case of the filename is right - Linux is case sensitive so "scan" is not the same as "Scan" for example.
[10:20] <kodat> AkumAPRIME, also, if i use wireless do i have to uncheck wired connection?
[10:20] <Kannix> tahorg: Yep.
[10:20] <lupine_85> does the www-data group have write permissions to /var/www ?
[10:21] <AkumAPRIME> no kodat, mine isnt
[10:21] <Johnbon> well i am not sure .. Kannix
[10:21] <laz45> Daniel4711: Chmod worked thanks :)
[10:21] <Tim91> Fetched 192B in 2s (72B/s)
[10:21] <Tim91> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:21] <Tim91> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using i
[10:21] <Tim91> help
[10:21] <MetaMorfoziS> Pelo:  only the kernel is the difference between the normal and that what is for the 64bit dualcore processors?
[10:21] <Daniel4711> laz45> Great :)
[10:21] <Johnbon> i will invite the person with this issue to this channel
[10:21] <kodat> AkumAPRIME, alright im gon disconnect my hardconnection see if my wireless picks up..brb maybe if i lose connection
[10:21] <grout_work> lupine_85 how can i check?
[10:21] <tahorg> Kannix: debootstrap edgy.
[10:21] <AkumAPRIME> gl kodat
[10:21] <Kannix> Johnbon: check that. I have it observed once. A timeout of about 1 hour(!), before apt finally gave up.
[10:21] <lupine_85> ls -la /var |grep www ?
[10:21] <pike_> Nox_ville: im not really sure of the problem. i could suggest howto disable ipv6 on ubuntu but again im not sure of the issue
[10:21] <Kannix> tahorg: ok. will try.
[10:21] <Pelo> MetaMorfoziS  other required stuff should get installed as well
[10:22] <Xal2> Has anyone here ever setup pastebin?
[10:22] <Nox_ville> pike_: thanks
[10:22] <Pelo> MetaMorfoziS  you can search for linux image to
[10:22] <lupine_85> "drwxr-xr-x 14 root root" appears to be the default
[10:22] <Xal2> I'm having a lot of trouble with it.
[10:22] <tahorg> Kannix: debootstrap <3
[10:22] <daveT> question, im upgrading to edgy, and it seems to be stuck on uim-utils
[10:22] <Kannix> Johnbon: Check what it is doing, when it hangs. If it is something like "getting package db" or something, that is a way to investigate.
[10:22] <grout_work> lupine_85 i get thi drwxr-xr-x  8 root root  4096 2006-10-26 20:21 www
[10:23] <mrbond82> Who can you post a suggestion to for features and changes to ubuntu?
[10:23] <Pelo> daveT I got stuck to , I had to use the apt-get method,  it takes a while
[10:23] <daveT> it hasnt moved at all from ERROR: wta to car (errobj t)
[10:23] <kodat> alright
[10:23] <kodat> AkumAPRIME, alright no dice
[10:23] <kodat> AkumAPRIME, it didnt catch he wireless i dont think
[10:23] <grout_work> lupine_85, how can i change it?
[10:23] <daveT> crap so what should i do now?
[10:23] <laz45> I am on wireless right now but I can't ping or go to any site I can only be in IRC weird.....
[10:23] <tonyyarusso> mrbond82: launchpad.net, submit a feature specification
[10:23] <Sgeo> Investigating upstart
[10:23] <Sgeo> Package upstart has broken dep on sysvinit
[10:23] <Sgeo>   Considering sysvinit 5100 as a solution to upstart 25
[10:23] <Sgeo>   Holding Back upstart rather than change sysvinit
[10:23] <Sgeo> Is that a very bad thing?
[10:23] <lupine_85> "sudo chmod g+rwx www && sudo chgrp www-data www" should do it
[10:23] <Kannix> tahorg: One final question. Is the AMD64 port usable, or are there a lot of packages missing?
[10:23] <AkumAPRIME> well.. unless youre 100% certain of your SSID and pw, etc, dont go on to the crazier steps!!
[10:24] <lupine_85> Kannix: almost nothing is missing
[10:24] <HaroldJohnson> Is rsync a backup program?  Or simply one that can be used by backup programs?
[10:24] <Pelo> daveT  I can't realy advise you on this but killing it is an options,   ( I have no idea if you will be able to run your comp afterwards tho)
[10:24] <tahorg> Kannix: I'm using it. Everything's ok except flash.
[10:24] <Kannix> lupine_85: Nice. Of course there is flash and such things. They just don't want to cooperate .)
[10:24] <lupine_85> indeed :D
[10:24] <tonyyarusso> sbalneav: Any other thoughts on why I'm not getting any response when I try to send a print job?
[10:24] <tahorg> Kannix: I mean for a 'wife-config'
[10:24] <Tim91> sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-core beryl-plugins beryl-plugins-data \ beryl-settings beryl-manager emerald emerald-themes xserver-xgl  helpppppppppppppppppppppp
[10:24] <fluxinator> OK I really need help with this x problem
[10:24] <HaroldJohnson> !rsync
[10:24] <daveT> oh phew i just ctrl -C it in the term and it went on with the next package
[10:24] <lupine_85> !beryl
[10:24] <variant> daveT: probably the system will boot, what is it doing when stuck?
[10:24] <mjelva> i'm trying to compile lirc-modules-source, but i get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28721/. i've extracted the source, and placed the modules/lirc/ directory in /usr/src/linux-source/2.6.17/ so it's with the other modules directory (i386). am i doing this right or not? what seems to be the problem?
[10:24] <ubotu> rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.8-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 472 kB
[10:25] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[10:25] <dragonkh> hi
[10:25] <kodat> AkumAPRIME, so do i need to change like DNS or Hosts?
[10:25] <MukiEX> How do you get your xorg version?
[10:25] <Kannix> lupine_85: is it worth the hassle? I mean, can you notice a difference between x386 and AMD64?
[10:25] <daveT> seems to be ok, ill probably just have to fix uim-utils later
[10:25] <HaroldJohnson> !rcp
[10:25] <variant> MukiEX: X -v iirc
[10:25] <dragonkh> I installed mod_python on apache2 - now apache2 wont start - module alias_module is built-in and can't be loaded
[10:25] <lupine_85> Kannix: a bit
[10:25] <dragonkh> anyone got an idea why ?
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rcp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <Kannix> MukiEX: Use synaptics
[10:25] <lupine_85> not a great deal for normal desktop stuff
[10:25] <Sgeo> !paste
[10:26] <variant> MukiEX: type Xorg -version
[10:26] <Sgeo> !tellmeabout paste
[10:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:26] <grout_work> lupine_85 how can i see if the ftp server is able to write there?
[10:26] <pike_> heh i just found out what was wrong with users firefox crashing on the vncserver.  a user who had sudo access has been sudo pkill firefox instead of pkill firefox
[10:26] <|mp|> after creaiing an ext3 filesystem on a 400Gb disk there is only 346gb available - is there a better way to format it to get more space?
[10:26] <Kannix> MukiEX: Ah, you want to know what version you have installed? I thought you want to install it :)
[10:26] <variant> |mp|: how are you judgeing the free space?
[10:26] <variant> |mp|: try df --si
[10:27] <lupine_85> |mp|: KiB or KB? :)
[10:27] <feg> !network-manager
[10:27] <|mp|> variant - just checking properties in KDE
[10:27] <dakira2> hi.. i have a big problem.. x11-common doesn't install correctly during uprade.. looks like this: http://pastebin.ca/225203
[10:27] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[10:27] <mrbond82> tonyyarusso: Yeah I see my request already on launchpad... good to know there is a coordinated system to build ubuntu
[10:27] <lupine_85> grout_work: not really sure, but you could also try adding the ftp user to the www-data group
[10:27] <dragonkh> anyone got any clue why my apache broke ?
[10:27] <chuckp> I can ping google by ip but I can't get to it with google.com
[10:27] <variant> |mp|: there are so many different ways to judge free space, use the command i just showed you
[10:27] <bbrazil> chuckp: which IP :)
[10:27] <lupine_85> dragonkh: did you drop it on a hard surface?
[10:27] <variant> dragonkh: full moon
[10:27] <Pelo> later folks
[10:27] <chuckp> any of them
[10:27] <chuckp> but google.com doesn't work
[10:27] <Sgeo> Some help here
[10:28] <Sgeo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28724/
[10:28] <variant> chuckp: do you have dns servers specified?
[10:28] <dragonkh> nope I just installed mod_python and tried to restart
[10:28] <chuckp> I have no idea
[10:28] <variant> chuckp: how do you connect to the internet?
[10:28] <chuckp> this started with me setting up apache
[10:28] <kodat> hmm im getting no wireless extentions when i do iwconfig
[10:28] <variant> chuckp: i see
[10:28] <chuckp> I connect via static ip
[10:28] <Sgeo> How do I determine how unstable my computer is?
[10:28] <variant> chuckp: ok, so, you need to specify your dns servers
[10:28] <grout_work> Lupine_85, it works thanks alot
[10:28] <dragonkh> apache has been up and running for ages - I just apt-got mod_python and it died :(
[10:28] <variant> Sgeo: count how often it crashes
[10:28] <chuckp> where do i do that
[10:28] <lupine_85> Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer) [IP: 195.248.90.23 80] 
[10:28] <lupine_85> 116. Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/speex/libspeex1_1.1.12-2_i386.deb
[10:29] <pike_> chuckp: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf  remove any entries and put like "nameserver 192.168.1.0"
[10:29] <variant> chuckp: network manager > dns
[10:29] <lupine_85> Sgeo: try a different mirror ?
[10:29] <pike_> or that
[10:29] <chuckp> ok
[10:29] <Shadowthrone> What would be considered the most superior CD/DVD burning software?
[10:29] <shira> anyone know why Listen can't play mp3s? I installed it using aptitude
[10:29] <Sgeo> Hm?
[10:29] <lupine_85> k3b :D
[10:29] <ehird> will this work: "sudo aptitude install kde-core" and then later "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop"?
[10:29] <grout_work> Lupine_85, now i would like to make it so he can only access his home dir and the www dir, how can  i do that?
[10:29] <rwscold> why doesnt k3b transcode avi to dvd?
[10:29] <chuckp> ok done
[10:29] <variant> shira: cdrecord is very fast and easy to use, if you want a gui interface then k3b is awsome
[10:29] <|mp|> variant - ok, then it returns 370Gb available - is that a normal loss?
[10:30] <variant> |mp|: what if you do df on its own?
[10:30] <lupine_85> rwscold: because k3b isn't a dvd authoring program ?
[10:30] <Sgeo> How do I make it work?
[10:30] <variant> Sgeo: make what work?
[10:30] <rwscold> lupine it should be :)
[10:30] <lupine_85> grout_work: usually something like that would be done with a chroot
[10:30] <Sgeo> the distupgrade
[10:30] <bruenig> ehird, I don't think that will work, ubuntu-desktop is a meta package and unless you installed it with aptitude, removing it with aptitude won't remove its dependencies
[10:30] <paulgb1> I'm running the Edgy Eft live CD, how can I access my hard drives?
[10:30] <lupine_85> rwscold: then submit a patch for it :)
[10:30] <Sgeo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28724/ /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log
[10:30] <Johnbon> newest version of k3b will incorporate more ripping features .. i am not sure that feature will be incorporated too ?
[10:30] <bruenig> paulgb1, you need to mount them
[10:30] <|mp|> variant - with df -h it says 367gb avail.
[10:31] <lupine_85> Having seen the complexity of said programs, I don't think you'll have much luck
[10:31] <chuckp> ok I ping google.com and it works
[10:31] <ehird> bruenig: would aptitude install ubuntu-desktop make it work then? ;)
[10:31] <shira> variant: I think you're talking to the wrong person? =P
[10:31] <chuckp> I go to google.com in browser nd its blank
[10:31] <chuckp> and*
[10:31] <ehird> bruenig: (before hand)
[10:31] <variant> shira: dunno, i am fairly lost now :P
[10:31] <lupine_85> chuckp: what does telnet www.google.com 80 do?
[10:31] <paulgb1> bruenig: How do I mount things in Edgy Eft graphically? System->Administration->Disks seems to have been removed...
[10:31] <amicrawle> is edgy out yet to up grade the distro ?
[10:32] <variant> amicrawle: yes
[10:32] <shira> variant: irc screen is going up really fast. you probably skipped a line or something ;)
[10:32] <chuckp> it connects
[10:32] <bruenig> ehird, maybe, I never thought of that. I kind of doubt it, here is a page that tells you the command to remove all of ubuntu-desktop. I figure if it could be done as easily as you say, that this wouldn't exist but maybe not http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[10:32] <amicrawle> can  i do a apt-get install distro yet?
[10:32] <chuckp> escape char is ^\
[10:32] <pike_> amicrawle: sudo update-manager -c & i believe for gnome
[10:32] <ehird> bruenig: i guess i'll try :^)
[10:32] <bruenig> paulgb1, I only know how to mount from the command line
[10:32] <LjL> !upgrade > amicrawle
[10:32] <philip__> I wish #ubuntu+1 is available to escape this high volume
[10:32] <chuckp> it connected
[10:33] <chuckp> lpne
[10:33] <chuckp> lupine
[10:33] <lupine_85> chuckp: then it's a problem with your browser
[10:33] <ph8> my surround sound doesn't work when i plug it in, it used to. intermittently. any idea how i can diagnose the problem? It has three plugs but ican only plug one in on my laptop, which used to work - one driving the back speakers, one the front and one the center etc
[10:33] <lupine_85> HTTP proxy specified?
[10:33] <Qaldune> hi
[10:33] <bruenig> !hi
[10:33] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:33] <Qaldune> i've just upgraded to edgy and ndiswrapper doesn't works at all
[10:34] <Laniboy> Hi, I'm trying to install 6.10 from the live cd. I've verified the downloaded .iso with the md5 value and I also ran a verification after I booted from the cd. All fine this far. But then I get a "Failed to start X server" error. If I look into the error messages little deeper it says "no screens found". I've tried many different vga-modes as well as the "safe graphics mode option". None does work. I've checked the forums and
[10:34] <chuckp> ok firefox is the newest version at-get install says
[10:34] <Qaldune> does anyone have any idea?
[10:34] <chuckp> apt*
[10:34] <amicrawle> how big is edgy ?
[10:34] <pike_> ph8: id play around in alsamixer first thing
[10:34] <AkumAPRIME> hey, where the HELL is firefox installed on a default Edgy eft ubuntu install? I'm searching for it, dont see it anywhere :(
[10:34] <lupine_85> amicrawle: you might want to qualify that
[10:34] <ehird> about to aptitude install kde-core :)
[10:34] <voltz> AkumAPRIME, should be in the menu 'internet'
[10:34] <chuckp> how do you remove with apt
[10:34] <ph8> AkumAPRIME: dpkg -L firefox
[10:34] <chuckp> I'll remove it
[10:34] <variant> chuckp: apt-get remove
[10:34] <ph8> possibly firefox-bin
[10:34] <voltz> apt-get remove
[10:34] <chuckp> nice
[10:35] <ehird> tis going :)
[10:35] <amicrawle> how big is edgy iso ?
[10:35] <AkumAPRIME> right, but I need  apath, I need to run the profile managaer
[10:35] <lupine_85> 700MBish
[10:35] <ph8> /usr/share/firefox
[10:35] <amicrawle> wow
[10:35] <ehird> if i install kde and leave gnome, what will happen to gnome itself?
[10:35] <lupine_85> it fits onto a CD
[10:35] <ehird> will it say, ask me on bootup?
[10:35] <LjL> ehird: it will ask you at the login screen
[10:35] <AkumAPRIME> tu ph8
[10:35] <ehird> LjL: awesome
[10:35] <Roger_The_Bum> how can I found out my ssh key
[10:35] <chuckp> lupine you rock!
[10:35] <reagor> hey all got an issue with my fresh copy of ubuntu ...ive run all the updates and installed azerus through the add program menu
[10:35] <Roger_The_Bum> (s/ssh/rsa/) correction: how can I found out my rsa key
[10:35] <lupine_85> :p
[10:35] <LjL> ehird: (choose "Options", then select your session, with GDM -- or click on the left icon, and select "Sessions", on KDM)
[10:36] <chuckp> I setup a apache server
[10:36] <amicrawle> is there a big diff from dapper to edgy?
[10:36] <chuckp> his caused all this
[10:36] <reagor> my nat is setup correctly fwd the port to the ubuntu machine
[10:36] <chuckp> this*
[10:36] <lupine_85> amicrawle: quite a big one IMO
[10:36] <lupine_85> especially with wireless networking
[10:36] <reagor> still reading nat problems within linux
[10:36] <jepeltw> hello all, I'm installing Edgy from the alternate CD on i386 and using LVM. The packages have successfully installed and the installer says "cleaning up" and is frozen at 97%. tty4 shows a cycle of "failed to load external entity" messages
[10:36] <chuckp> I want to keep it and have my box as a apache server and use the networks dns server
[10:36] <SV452> can someone tell me how can i connect to another ubuntu pc on the network like in windows u can do //pcname/c$
[10:36] <amicrawle> what about games and video apps ?
[10:36] <yrlnry> I've just edited my xorg.conf.  How can I get the X server to take note of the changes?
[10:36] <amicrawle> and hardware ?
[10:37] <entereczek> does anybody has problems with ati direct rendering on edgy after dist-upgrade from dapper ?
[10:37] <Qaldune> does anybody knows what happens with ndiswrapper in ubuntu 6.10??
[10:37] <reagor> is there an internal firewally like windows has? in ubuntu
[10:37] <kodat> blaaah i get no wireless extensions
[10:37] <kodat> this stinks
[10:37] <chuckp> so I have in resolv.conf my DNS server
[10:37] <LjL> !firewall > reagor
[10:37] <lupine_85> yrlnry: restart the X server
[10:37] <yrlnry> lupine_85: Thanks.  how do I do that?
[10:37] <lupine_85> ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:37] <chuckp> and i want my box in there to host my webpage on the intranet
[10:37] <mrbond82> Just a quick question.. I'm in Canada and ubuntu hooks me up automatically to canadian sources but my ISP is routed into the US backbone (close to the border) it would be WAY faster for me to d/l from the US sources... could I just change the ca.*****.ubuntu.com to us.*****.ubuntu.com ?
[10:37] <yrlnry> Thanks again.  Bye!
[10:37] <lupine_85> it'll kill qall open qs thouygh
[10:37] <lupine_85> mrbond82: yep
[10:37] <azureal> why did firefox icons reset to crap earth on upgrade =/
[10:37] <azureal> i am very sad now
[10:37] <carden> so my laptop has an issue where if I leave it alone for over an hour, it blanks the screen and keyboard/mouse activity does not bring it back. I have set all the power management options from within X to never sleep or shut down, what else could be causing this?
[10:37] <lupine_85> azureal: dfsg maybe ?/
[10:37] <entereczek> does anybody has problems with ati direct rendering on edgy after dist-upgrade from dapper ?
[10:38] <azureal> lupine_85, dfsg?
[10:38] <lupine_85> thank your stars you're not using iceweasel
[10:38] <Roger_The_Bum> carden: xscreensaver?
[10:38] <pike_> mrbond82: yes or you can remove it and just have ubuntu.
[10:38] <lupine_85> !dfsg
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dfsg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <shira> bruneig: this mp3 to ogg conversoin will take like 10 years..
[10:38] <reagor> !bittorrent
[10:38] <lupine_85> ...
[10:38] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 556 kB
[10:38] <azureal> hahahaa
[10:38] <lupine_85> Debian Free Software Guidelines
[10:38] <carden> roger_the_bum: I will look
[10:38] <daydreama> wow
[10:38] <chuckp> lupine when you have a chance
[10:38] <daydreama> hello ubuntuworld :D
[10:38] <chuckp> ahola
[10:38] <reagor> !azureus > reagor
[10:38] <entereczek> does anybody has problems with ati direct rendering on edgy after dist-upgrade from dapper ?
[10:38] <mrbond82> now my speed is 500K/s vs. 35 K/s before (using the US source instead of the Canadian source) go figure.
[10:39] <Kameli> Has Linux any softwares like Microsoft ScanDisk which checks disk for errors and if find them, fix them, or at least try to fix them?
[10:39] <carden> roger_the_bum: it is set to a random screensaver, not blank screen.
[10:39] <jwl007> !repeat | entereczek
[10:39] <daydreama> Kameli: fsck
[10:39] <ubotu> entereczek: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:39] <krazykit> Kameli: fsck
[10:39] <Laniboy> noone that can help me get the LiveCD to work? :(
[10:39] <Kameli> ok thanks =)
[10:39] <azureal> lupine_85, what are you trying to say w/ dfsg ...?
[10:39] <daydreama> np
[10:39] <Qaldune> is anyone using ndiswrapper under edgy plz tell me?
[10:39] <lupine_85> the icon supplied by firefox violates DFSG
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> sbalneav: Got it working
[10:39] <lupine_85> ergo, it doesn't go into debian
[10:40] <sbalneav> tonyyarusso: Oh, excellent.
[10:40] <daydreama> will ubuntu change to iceweasel like debian? :D
[10:40] <lupine_85> chuckp: sorry, i'm not entuirely sure what you want to know
[10:40] <carden> are there any non GUI applications that can cause a laptop to go to sleep? extra power managent control files I can look at?
[10:40] <Roger_The_Bum> daydreama: probably not
[10:40] <azureal> lupine_85, ?!?! how does firefox's own icon violate dfsg?
[10:40] <entereczek> Qaldune, i think its common problem on edgy  - i read somewhere else about notworking ndiswrapper on edgy
[10:40] <pike_> Kameli: fsck or debugfs usually just fsck.  dont use it on a mouted drive!
[10:40] <azureal> lupine_85, plus, it was a custom icon that i was using
[10:40] <lupine_85> because it's non-free
[10:40] <Qaldune> entereczek got any idea about how to fix it?
[10:40] <tonyyserver> daydreama: no
[10:40] <daydreama> :(
[10:40] <daydreama> would be funny
[10:40] <daydreama> ^^
[10:40] <dabaR> azureal: it is not free software
[10:41] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone: Which command would I use to eject a PC/PCMCIA card?
[10:41] <lupine_85> it's not exactly software... ;)
[10:41] <LjL> azureal, they're trademarked, and the holders only allow using them on official builds, or at least builds that have been submitted to them for checking
[10:41] <azureal> can you tell me how to violate dfsg to remove this annoying earth =P
[10:41] <tahorg> HaroldJohnson: use your finger.
[10:41] <entereczek> Qaldune, unfortunately no, I only read that on edgy ndiswrapper isnt working after upgrade
[10:41] <CookedGryphon> Hi, I'm having problems with firefox segfaulting, i've tried disabling all plugins (and removing my .mozilla/firefox folder, resetting to defaults) i've tried a memtest incase its my hardware, still no luck, any ideas?
[10:41] <lupine_85> azureal: install the "official" firefox...
[10:41] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: Thanks, but that tends to damage my Mac
[10:41] <dabaR> azureal: it is on the forums
[10:41] <Qaldune> so you heard ndiswrapper isn't working at all in ubuntu????????
[10:41] <Qaldune> omg
[10:41] <Qaldune> that's so bad
[10:41] <tahorg> HaroldJohnson: ho, sorry. Tried a screwdriver ?
[10:41] <Qaldune> well ubuntu edgy
[10:41] <voltz> can someone recommend a good torrent client please
[10:42] <dabaR> take back + firefox+logo can be search terms azureal
[10:42] <tahorg> :)
[10:42] <lupine_85> ktorrent
[10:42] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: No
[10:42] <pike_> voltz: ktorrent for me
[10:42] <azureal> lupine_85, wtf? why did aptitude dist-upgrade update my firefox to a debian build?!
[10:42] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: It's simply this: I prefer to use the software to pull the card
[10:42] <lupine_85> ...ubuntu is debian-derived...
[10:42] <tahorg> HaroldJohnson: that was a joke :)
[10:42] <voltz> ktorrent is gonna need some K libs added then ?
[10:42] <eztk> hi again lupine_85
[10:42] <lupine_85> lotsd
[10:42] <notwist> azureal: ubuntu = debian
[10:42] <lupine_85> 'lo
[10:42] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: When I pull the card manually, it seems to damage this old PowerBook's ejection mechanism.
[10:42] <eztk> lupine_85 - the upgrade screwed up Gnome... hehehehe
[10:42] <HaroldJohnson> !eject
[10:42] <eztk> lupine_85 - time for a clean install
[10:42] <ubotu> eject: ejects CDs and operates CD-Changers under Linux. In component main, is important. Version 2.1.4-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 28 kB, installed size 252 kB
[10:43] <tahorg> HaroldJohnson: sudo cardctl eject
[10:43] <LjL> !debian | notwist, azureal
[10:43] <ubotu> notwist, azureal: Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[10:43] <azureal> notwist, that's not my point, but anyways you're partly wrong
[10:43] <voltz> I was trying to keep system free from any kde libs but I guess it doesnt really mattter
[10:43] <daydreama> \o/
[10:43] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: Thanks
[10:43] <lupine_85> kde is cool
[10:43] <fluxinator> Can someone please help me repair x?
[10:43] <notwist> azureal: whatever
[10:43] <jwl007> fluxinator, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:43] <lupine_85> eztk: was that an update to edgy?
[10:43] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: I knew you'd have something for me!
[10:43] <azureal> my point is that dist-upgrade is flawed if it messes with packages that I had on my own...
[10:43] <variant> whats with gnome.org.. is it down or is it just me?
[10:44] <lupine_85> if so, make sure that ubuntu-desktop is installed
[10:44] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: And that command works for Wifi cards?
[10:44] <entereczek> Is ati direct rendering working after upgrade dapper>edgy?
[10:44] <lupine_85> azureal: if apt-get doesn't know the file is there, what can it do?
[10:44] <ddavis> hello
[10:44] <azureal> lupine_85, so it overwrites it?!
[10:44] <tahorg> HaroldJohnson: that command should work for pcmcia cards
[10:44] <lupine_85> create a firefox-icon package and the problem will be solved
[10:45] <lupine_85> azureal: sure, why not ;)
[10:45] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: Radical.  I thank you mightily.
[10:45] <azureal> lupine_85, firefox-icon package..?
[10:45] <tahorg> HaroldJohnson: did you try it now ? Because I've never use this command, I don't have a mac.
[10:45] <mattt> wooo, ubuntu on my mac mini is kickass
[10:45] <lupine_85> as in, make one with your icon in and install it - then your file will be in apt-get's database and it won't overwrite it
[10:46] <azureal> lupine_85, what will happen to plugins
[10:46] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: Haven't tried it yet; installing a package using my 'net connection.  After, I will
[10:46] <lupine_85> nothing
[10:46] <d5q> my internet connection is going slow (2 mbps out of 12 mbps)... anyone know what the problem may be? i posted in the ubuntu forums but no one replied http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286120
[10:46] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: Meanwhile, I'll read the cardctl man
[10:47] <MrRothstein> hi all
[10:47] <azureal> i'll continue in #firefox.
[10:47] <Jowi> Hi MrRothstein and everyone else
[10:47] <Laniboy> Does Edgy work for anyone?
[10:47] <MrRothstein> how has the dist-upgrade gone for people?
[10:47] <user-land> when i try to launch konqueror, i get 'baddevice' error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28725/
[10:47] <d5q> yes
[10:47] <kodat> lol i have no idea how to install stuff
[10:47] <kodat> this is funny
[10:47] <tahorg> HaroldJohnson: to avoid any problem you must shutdown the interface and remove if possible the kernel module before ejecting the card
[10:48] <Superplay> hello!
[10:48] <lupine_85> Laniboy: yes. perfectly, On 3 separate PCs and 2 different architectures
[10:48] <user-land> laniboy, it works for most, as usual.
[10:48] <LjL> !baddevice > user-land
[10:48] <Laniboy> only me then :(
[10:48] <lupine_85> tahorg: I just unplug them ;)
[10:48] <Sgeo> Didn't work for me
[10:48] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: Hmmm...Not certain how to do all that.
[10:48] <jwl007> i installed via the alternate iso, and i have had no problems to speak of
[10:48] <Jowi> kodat, synaptic package manager is the easiest way :)
[10:48] <Sgeo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28724/
[10:48] <Laniboy> is it just ATI-cards that it doesn't support?
[10:48] <meshugga> hi chaps
[10:48] <kodat> Jowi, if i knew what it way, i could agree
[10:49] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: What I'd *really* like to do is simply eject the card and then put my PowerBook to sleep so that I can lug it to my next location.
[10:49] <meshugga> i have problems to load snd_ modules after updating to edgy eft
[10:49] <MrRothstein> dlink wifi works fine after upgrade?
[10:49] <meshugga> while the kernel is still the old one
[10:49] <tahorg> HaroldJohnson: try it. If the kernel Oopses, then you might have to do what I just said.
[10:49] <preglow> thunderbird now refuses to accept an ssl certificate i've got on my own mail server permanently, it only accepts it for the current session. any ways to fix this?
[10:49] <Tim91> this thing keeps on crashing
[10:49] <yrlnry> I've restarted my X server with the modified xorg.conf, and it's having an effect, but it won't display in 1600x1200 mode.
[10:49] <markrian_> I've been trying to upgrade a debian etch machine to ubuntu edgy for days now, but keep running into difficulties. Does anyone know of a sane upgrade path, or the location of any documentation on how to do it?
[10:49] <Jowi> kodat, sorry, i didn't quite get what you ment...?
[10:49] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: I will.  I won't be able to report my results now, since once I eject the card I'll be without 'ent.
[10:50] <kodat> Jowi, i dont know how to download that program or how to get it haha
[10:50] <Laniboy> Is there any hardware compatability list for Edgy?
[10:50] <yrlnry> it still defaults to 1280x1024, and although ctrl-alt-+ will cycle through several sizes, it doesn't do 1600x1200.
[10:50] <LjL> !hardware > Laniboy
[10:50] <jwl007> Laniboy, maybe check the ubuntu hardware database?
[10:50] <gpd> load average is 3.24 3.24 32.4 but my system it IDLE! Kernel Bug?
[10:50] <meshugga> i get a lot of unknown symbol messages :/
[10:50] <yrlnry> If I post my xorg.conf file to a paste service, can someone take a look at it?
[10:50] <jwl007> !hdb
[10:50] <hobbesmaster> has anyone else had trouble getting hardware acceleration out of the ATI binary drivers after an upgrade to edgy from dapper?
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <Laniboy> Sgeo: Do you also have an ATI-card?
[10:50] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: Ugg!  The package I'm installing is taking *forever*.  How can I check its progress?  Would it hurt for me to abort the installation?
[10:50] <xroach> hello
[10:51] <tahorg> HaroldJohnson: how do you install it ?
[10:51] <xroach> could someone help me....?
[10:51] <aSt3raL> im trying to install the kernel source and i keep getting 'E: Couldn't find package
[10:51] <CVirus> I upgraded from dapper to edgy and now when I cat /proc/cpuinfo ... I see this cpu MHz         : 1000.000 instead of cpu MHz         : 1600.000 with dapper .. although i'm using the generic kernel .. what could be wrong ?
[10:51] <pike_> markrian_: eh. id move my /home onto a seperate partition backup my /etc/*.conf files and reinstall / but im lazy
[10:51] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: I'm installing using Synaptic
[10:51] <pupeno_> Hello.
[10:51] <Laniboy> LjL, jwl007: thanks!
[10:51] <pupeno_> Trying to create an encrypted file system with "cryptsetup -y create crypt /dev/hda3" I've got the error: Command failed: Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.07 (2006-05-11)(compat) and kernel driver. What am I doing wrong ?
[10:51] <tahorg> CVirus: powernowd
[10:51] <swtaarrs> how can I configured which startup scripts in /etc/init.d are run on boot (I'm in 6.10)?
[10:51] <dnite> On the ubuntu-guide for edgy.. it tells you how to install nvidia beta drivers.. but the apt-get can't find the libxorg-sched-yield-hack0 package.. is this a problem? or can i overlook this package w/o breaking my system?
[10:51] <CVirus> tahorg: what is that ?
[10:51] <user-land> thanks, ljl, so this error only comes up when launching an app from the console ?
[10:51] <markrian_> pike_: I'm afraid it's not as simple as that. This machine cannot boot from CD, so have to install debian by floppy first!
[10:51] <tahorg> CVirus: your cpu adapts its frequency to the usage.
[10:51] <jwl007> !hardware > jwl007
[10:51] <LjL> user-land: yes
[10:51] <tahorg> CVirus: make it busy, you'll see 1600
[10:51] <yrlnry> Anyway, my xorg.conf is now at http://erxz.com/pb/3962 if anyone wants to look.
[10:52] <Jowi> kodat, no problems. click on system -> administration -> Synaptic package manager. In there you can either search by name/description etc or select programs to install by browsing the categories. click on a name and it will show a description. click in the checkbox to mark it and click the apply button to install your selections.
[10:52] <xroach> I did a fresh install of edgy last night and now i installed some beryl and stuff but now my x wont start even when using my backup xorg.conf
[10:52] <CVirus> tahorg: great
[10:52] <yrlnry> I would be very grateful for any advice anyone could offer.
[10:52] <LjL> user-land: you shouldn't really worry about it IMHO, unless it just annoys you
[10:52] <user-land> ljl, i don't need to launch it from the konsole, konqueror just does not start up when launched from the menu ...
[10:52] <pike_> !install
[10:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:52] <xroach> then i cant also reinstall ubuntu cause it hangs in the loading screen
[10:52] <CVirus> tahorg: is it now safe to apt-get remove klaptopdaemon ?
[10:52] <Jowi> kodat, there are thousands of programs to chose from. No need to download a program of "the net" if you haven't got special needs.
[10:52] <meshugga> [17182994.924000]  snd_pcm: disagrees about version of symbol boot_cpu_data
[10:52] <meshugga> [17182994.924000]  snd_pcm: Unknown symbol boot_cpu_data
[10:52] <pike_> markrian_: ^^ pretty cool link i wasnt aware of alot of the methods in that link
[10:52] <CVirus> tahorg: as edgy is using another power manager I guess
[10:53] <CVirus> tahorg: I'm using Kubuntu by the way
[10:53] <LjL> user-land: and it doesn't start from the console, either? (bad device warnings aside)
[10:53] <d5q> my internet is slow. anyone know what i should check
[10:53] <kodat> Jowi, ah, cuz i was lookin for something to help me get my wireless work..but i downlodaed something and didnt know how to install it cuz i dont know any of the commands
[10:53] <LjL> !paste > meshugga
[10:53] <user-land> right, it does not start either way.
[10:53] <Jowi> koday, have you had a look at the wireless help pages?
[10:53] <tonyyarusso> d5q: Whether it is faster with a different OS?
[10:53] <tahorg> CVirus: I don't know about kubuntu
[10:53] <eXistenZ> LjL, Are you using edgy?
[10:53] <Jowi> kodat, not koday :)
[10:53] <CVirus> tahorg: thanks
[10:53] <d5q> it is 6x faster with windows
[10:53] <LjL> eXistenZ: yes
[10:54] <kodat> Jowi, hehe
[10:54] <yrlnry> !paste > yrlnry
[10:54] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: It doesn't even seem like Synaptic is doing anything!
[10:54] <Jowi> ubotu, tell kodat about wireless
[10:54] <meshugga> LjL: i dont have a lot to paste
[10:54] <meshugga> just that snd_pcm error
[10:54] <kodat> jowi heh i been on the help page for a long time tryin to figure this out but no dice so far
[10:54] <Kannix> *ahem* I have a problem with WLAN access. I need WPA PSK, but there is no option for it anywhere near the "network settings" dialogue. Any hints?
[10:54] <LjL> user-land: there are no other errors aside from the bad device one you pasted?
[10:54] <Jowi> kodat, have a look at the message ubotu sent you
[10:54] <meshugga> which is to my opinion the source for my problem
[10:54] <CVirus> tahorg: what about my GPU ... with glxgears I used to get 1200 FPS and now its not exceeding 800 FPS .. although the intel driver is installed correctly I guess
[10:54] <Kannix> Is there a GUI to WPA-supplicant?
[10:54] <Jowi> kodat, ah.
[10:54] <Nox_ville> who can help me with wifi networking ??? i really desparatly need help>>!!!
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> Kannix: install network-manager
[10:54] <Laniboy> My ATI X850 XT doesn't seam to be on the hardware list, so I guess it isn't supported :( :( :(
[10:54] <LjL> !helpme | Nox_ville
[10:54] <ubotu> Nox_ville: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:54] <tahorg> HaroldJohnson: you can stop it brutally if you know how to use dpkg/apt-get
[10:54] <Kannix> tonyyarusso: I am still on the live CD ...
[10:55] <jwl007> Laniboy, not necessarily
[10:55] <user-land> right, ljl, the cursor on the console just hangs there at the end of what i pasted.
[10:55] <xroach> also u need the wpa_supplicant ?
[10:55] <HaroldJohnson> tahorg: I forget the kill comman
[10:55] <kodat> Jowi, yah i dunno what it is but right now my wireless is my priority haha i dont like my hard connection..cables are troublesome
[10:55] <dragonkh> can anyone help me with my apache problem ?
[10:55] <LjL> user-land: "hangs there" = you don't get back to a prompt?
[10:55] <Kannix> tonyyarusso: And since my only NW connection is WLAN mit WPA PSK, I am stuck, right?
[10:55] <tahorg> HaroldJohnson: pkill synaptic
[10:55] <user-land> right, ljl.
[10:55] <Qaldune> can anyone help with wifi under edgy??
[10:55] <LjL> user-land: have you tried logging out and back in?
[10:55] <jwl007> join the club, Qaldune :)
[10:55] <Jowi> kodat, have you installed "network-manager-gnome" by any chance?
[10:55] <tonyyarusso> Kannix: Actually, you can install things on the live CD, but I don't think that package is available on the CD.  You'd need to have downloaded the package onto a USB drive or something, yeah.
[10:55] <xroach> im running on wpa/aes right now .... altought it disconnects for time to time
[10:55] <Laniboy> jwl007: ok, but I get an "X server failed" error with the message "no screens found", I guess that is because of the gfx card?
[10:56] <Qaldune> jwl007 what kind of problem you got?
[10:56] <Kannix> tonyyarusso: Damnit.
[10:56] <kodat> Jowi, unless it came with new ubuntu, then no
[10:56] <d5q> tonyyarusso, on the windows partition, I get 12 mbps but on ubuntu i only get 2 mbps
[10:56] <jwl007> Laniboy, try using the VESA driver and see if that works at all
[10:56] <tandem> hi
[10:56] <Kannix> tonyyarusso: So here I go on a quest for a Cat 5 cable and a LAN port somewhere ...
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> d5q: What type of internet connection?
[10:56] <tahorg> d5q: I've never heard such thing.
[10:56] <Laniboy> jwl007: is that the same as the "safe graphics mode" option? In that case it doesn't work.
[10:56] <jwl007> Qaldune, mine hasnt worked since hoary the hedgehog though
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> Kannix: Good luck
[10:57] <Kannix> tonyyarusso: yeah, thanks :)
[10:57] <d5q> tonyyarusso, it's at work on a network with a couple T3s i think
[10:57] <kodat> Jowi, alright im downloading it with that package manager
[10:57] <Jowi> kodat, if your wireless network card is detected then that application will pop up on the taskbar and give you all wireless networks within range (click on one to connect to one). it's very simple if, as I said, your hardware is supported
[10:57] <d5q> tahorg, i can send you screen shots
[10:57] <Qaldune> mmmmmmm my problem is that ndiswrapper doesn't work under edgy
[10:57] <jwl007> Laniboy, no. Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in terminal, and choose "VESA"  when you are asked for the driver
[10:57] <Vuen> exit
[10:57] <Vuen> oops
[10:57] <Vuen> this isn't a console
[10:57] <d5q> lol
[10:57] <kodat> jowi, yeah my card is visible, i did the one terminal command and it shows
[10:57] <tandem> i have a problem with edgy and openoffice, always the same problem : WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ... any idea ?
[10:57] <tahorg> Vuen: ctrl-d is better.
[10:58] <jwl007> Laniboy, that will save your previous xorg config in case you need to go back
[10:58] <reagor> any reason why after installing the entries in iptables for azerus i cannot fetch firestarter through add/remove
[10:58] <tahorg> too late
[10:58] <kodat> Jowi, how do i get to that network manager
[10:58] <Jowi> kodat, then I hope that this app is ecactly what you need
[10:58] <timosai> ubuntu is cool! this is my first boot from the CD they sent out to me :D
[10:58] <kodat> Jowi, where did it install to hehe
[10:58] <tahorg> timosai: happy firstday.
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> d5q: ...I'm not coming up with anything :(
[10:58] <timosai> hehe ty
[10:58] <Laniboy> jwl007: ok, but how do I get to the terminal?
[10:58] <dabaR> kodat: nm<tab>
[10:59] <variant> whats the way to reconfigure all packages with dpkg-reconfigure without asking me all hte questions?
[10:59] <xroach> timosai wait until u see it with beryl :D
[10:59] <d5q> tonyyarusso, :( nobody seems to be able to figure it out. not even the linux nerds here at work
[10:59] <mattt> anyone here use ubuntu on ppc?
[10:59] <user-land> ljl, i initiated logout, but part of the OS is now frozen and logout is not happening ...
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> d5q: Tried the mailing list yet?
[10:59] <d5q> tonyyarusso, you got a link for that? o,O
[10:59] <LjL> user-land: i suggest the harder approach: ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:00] <Code-E> !java > Code-E
[11:00] <fluxinator> Granted that I may not have the technical knowledge necessary to help others, but I really don't understand why I cannot receive help from an official channel
[11:00] <reagor> any reason why after installing the entries in iptables for azerus i cannot fetch firestarter through add/remove
[11:00] <variant> d5q: apt-get install ethtool and make sure the card is using the correct duplex setting
[11:00] <LjL> !oofix > tandem
[11:00] <kodat> Jowi, hmm i cant find this network gnome thing
[11:00] <d5q> variant: thanks
[11:00] <LjL> tandem: not sure that one will help. see also http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-openoffice%40lists.debian.org/msg12391.html
[11:00] <tandem> !oofix
[11:00] <ubotu> If your OpenOffice.org is showing very serious bugs (such as extremely frequent crashes), you might try the packages mentioned at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-October/022037.html  -  these are experimental, so do NOT try if OpenOffice.org is working well for you.
[11:00] <dabaR> fluxinator: this is a volunteer channel, and the people that happen to be here do not know the answer to your question.
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> d5q: http://lists.ubuntu.com/ , you want the ubuntu-users one towards the bottom.
[11:00] <Jowi> kodat, should be visible in the notification area. if not, right click and add it. hang on, i have disabled my wireless.
[11:00] <tandem> thanks LjL, i'll try that
[11:00] <paras> channel, apt-get install rar is not working.. any remedy?
[11:00] <d5q> tonyyarusso, thank you :)
[11:01] <dabaR> paras: aptitude search rar
[11:01] <fluxinator> dabaR: I am not ungrateful, dont misunderstand, It just feels like I am being ignored
[11:01] <jwl007> Laniboy, go to Applications->Accessories and click on terminal *OR* hit Cntrl+Alt+F1
[11:01] <user-land> ljl, calling konqueror on the console after new login, same effect.
[11:01] <kodat> jowi, hmm notification whats that
[11:02] <LjL> tandem: one user reports that using the "ati" driver instead of "fglrx" fixed his problem. not much to lose trying
[11:02] <paras> dabaR, i guess there is no rar packages
[11:02] <dabaR> fluxinator: which I ubnderstand, and have written the reply because of.
[11:02] <Laniboy> jwl007: Uhm... I only have F1 Help, F2 Language etc
[11:02] <concept10> fluxinator, what do you need help with
[11:02] <LjL> tandem: (assuming you have an ATI card, that is)
[11:02] <dabaR> paras: add repos.
[11:02] <Laniboy> jwl007: no Application
[11:02] <Roger_The_Bum> I have no sound!
[11:02] <dabaR> !universe >paras
[11:02] <reagor> neverming it was all traffic was haulted
[11:02] <paras> dabaR, i have univere and multiverse
[11:02] <fluxinator> concept10 I cannot get x to start
[11:02] <reagor> trying a reboot
[11:02] <Roger_The_Bum> apparently there's no volume control plugins
[11:02] <fluxinator> because of what I assume to be a problem with fonts
[11:02] <Roger_The_Bum> or no driver
[11:02] <dabaR> paras: have you updated your package list? show me some output on the pastebin, and the sources.list file
[11:02] <fluxinator> so I am logged in as console
[11:03] <jwl007> Laniboy, are you using gnome,fluxbox,kde?
[11:03] <Roger_The_Bum> because a quick lspci shows no videocard
[11:03] <LjL> user-land: uhm... run "kcontrol", go to KDE Components / KDE Performance . what are your preloading options like?
[11:03] <Laniboy> jwl007: and Ctrl+Alt+F1 doesn't do anything
[11:03] <Roger_The_Bum> (s/video/sound/) correction: because a quick lspci shows no soundcard
[11:03] <concept10> fluxinator, have you pasted any error messages?
[11:03] <Laniboy> jwl007: nothing yet, as I can't get into X ;)
[11:03] <kodat> jowi, i still cant find it >.< i suck at this haha
[11:03] <Jowi> kodat, see if you can find it in either the gnome menu or right click on the panel and add it
[11:03] <Laniboy> jwl007: I'm at the boot menu of the LiveCD
[11:03] <jwl007> Laniboy, Cntrl+Alt+F1 is a text console
[11:03] <budluva> anyone had this error before? xlib: extension "xfree86-dri" missing on display ":0.0"
[11:03] <jwl007> Laniboy: oh.
[11:04] <fluxinator> concept10: I cant seeing as I am in console mode
[11:04] <paras> dabaR, http://pastebin.ca/225266
[11:04] <budluva> im trying to get ati 8.29.6 drivers to work in ubuntu 6.10 on my mobility x600 card
[11:04] <Laniboy> jwl007: no, nothing happens when I press that
[11:04] <kodat> jowi, i just installed ubuntu today so no idea really..linux in general ive never used
[11:04] <xroach> jowi what are u trying to install? network-manager-gnome ?
[11:04] <MegaDeTH> anybody got time for a glx problem with edgy upgrade?
[11:04] <kodat> xroach, yah i installed it but i cant find it
[11:04] <xroach> u need to logoff and login to get it
[11:04] <reagor> how do i autostart an app
[11:04] <jwl007> try bootin the live cd with different vga options
[11:04] <reagor> there no "startup" folder
[11:04] <kodat> xroach, oh
[11:04] <dabaR> paras: no multiverse anywhere except backports.
[11:04] <Jowi> xroach, yep, to help kodat
[11:04] <xroach> works for me :D
[11:04] <concept10> fluxinator, understand this:  dont feel ignored, if you havent receievd help, its probably due to no one knowing the answer to your problem in the channel
[11:04] <kodat> xroach, lemme log off then
[11:04] <Jowi> ah ok xroach cheers
[11:05] <LjL> !startup > reagor
[11:05] <user-land> ljl, it looks like i can't launch kcontrol either: no error, cursor stays on next line, no new prompt, nothing happens.
[11:05] <concept10> fluxinator, have you tried to reconfigure x?
[11:05] <fluxinator> concept10: yes
[11:05] <jwl007> !patience | fluxinator
[11:05] <ubotu> fluxinator: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:05] <budluva> !ati
[11:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:05] <LjL> user-land: uhm, are there any KDE apps that you *can* start? =)
[11:05] <laz45> I'm using Wireless right now but I can only use IRC everything else doesnt work like web browsing???!!!???
[11:05] <Laniboy> jwl007: I've tried many of them, the most usual, none works, and the "safe graphics mode" doesn't work either
[11:05] <fluxinator> jwl007: thanks I have been patient
[11:05] <concept10> fluxinator, what type of errors are you getting?
[11:05] <paras> dabaR, ok.. added now workin... thankx !
[11:05] <Dasnipa`> im having some gtk issues related to the upgrade. when i try to open xmms i get a gdk critical alert and xmms fails to launch
[11:05] <jwl007> Laniboy try "other options"
[11:05] <user-land> no, ljl :-)
[11:05] <Jowi> laz45, maybe your router is blocking it?
[11:06] <concept10> fluxinator, also, is this a new install or upgrade?  did you make a change and x stopped working?
[11:06] <LjL> user-land: ouch! but are you in a KDE session right now, or Gnome, or what?
[11:06] <dabaR> paras: I also suggest a cleanup that looks like http://pastebin.ca/225268
[11:06] <Laniboy> jwl007: then I get a strange text line ;)
[11:06] <Boo> hey does anyone have an idea why ubuntu can't seem to tell i'm putting a data DVD in? (i assume i have to install something)
[11:06] <user-land> ubuntu standard, gnome
[11:06] <tahorg> laz45: are you at home ? or do you need to configure a proxy ?
[11:06] <fluxinator> concept10: it is a dist-upgrade
[11:06] <user-land> but: amd64, ljl.
[11:06] <laz45> Jowi: Can't be it worked perfectly with Ethernet Cable.
[11:06] <LjL> user-land: and you installed kde by...?
[11:06] <laz45> tahorg: I'm at home.
[11:06] <user-land> i think i am going to replace with a 32 bit install ...
[11:06] <concept10> fluxinator, from dapper -> edgy I assume?
[11:07] <fluxinator> yes concept10
[11:07] <user-land> i installed those apps via synaptic, ljl
[11:07] <LjL> user-land: well, if it's a 64-bit issue, i wouldn't know... but somehow i doubt that. you may have other reasons to prefer a 32 bit install, though
[11:07] <fluxinator> I followed the directions to the T from the website
[11:07] <LjL> user-land: so basically you told Synaptic to get Konqueror installed? only Konqueror, or the whole of KDE, or what?
[11:07] <laz45> tahorg: It doesnt need any special configuration it doesnt even have encryption.
[11:07] <concept10> fluxinator, Ive been knocked down to the console three times during this upgrade.  I experienced the same problem, not being able to get X up
[11:07] <Newbi8> Hello!
[11:07] <tahorg> laz45: if irc goes through and there is no filtering, then http should go too
[11:08] <Jowi> laz45, you can have different rules on your router for wired and wireless connections. check your router setting to make sure.
[11:08] <Newbi8> Could someone help me install XGL??
[11:08] <user-land> it looks like the 64 bit version has just again not been brought up to speed, not completed ...
[11:08] <Akrito> Hi.  Upstart looks great, but can it do anything that SEC ( http://www.estpak.ee/~risto/sec/ ) can't?
[11:08] <jwl007> Laniboy, in that text line, try putting xdrvr=vesa
[11:08] <xroach> Newbi8 go to #ubuntu-xgl
[11:08] <user-land> ljl, only the kde apps i needed.
[11:08] <jwl007> !upstart
[11:08] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[11:08] <dabaR> Akrito: ask the creator of upstart.
[11:08] <laz45> tahorg: Jowi: ill check but it just worked when i was in Mac os X....
[11:08] <concept10> fluxinator, my problem was this:  I had a package that didnt install (samba) therefore the dist-upgrade didnt complete and xserver-xorg didnt install.
[11:09] <fluxinator> concept10: I dont use samba
[11:09] <Jowi> laz45, if macosx works than your router should be fine. weird
[11:09] <concept10> fluxinator, thats not the point
[11:09] <xroach> kodat did it work?
[11:09] <concept10> fluxinator, the point is to make sure that the dist-upgrade completed
[11:09] <fluxinator> it did
[11:10] <kodat> xroach, i have no idea where to find it..it didnt auto pop up or anything
[11:10] <fluxinator> there were some python packages held back concept10
[11:10] <concept10> fluxinator, dpkg -l xserver-xorg-all
[11:10] <paras> dabaR, hmm will do it
[11:10] <LjL> user-land: i don't know, but it'd try "sudo apt-get install kde-core" and see if it helps -- yes, of course it'll install a bit of cruft (but hey, with Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) you now have "apt-get autoremove" ;)
[11:10] <concept10> what do you get fluxinator
[11:10] <laz45> Jowi: It might be my Firmware because you have to do a lot of configuration for it to work with Airport Extreme Cards...
[11:10] <budluva> !fglrx
[11:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:10] <xroach> hmm u trying to set up wpa?
[11:10] <spuddogg> !ieee
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ieee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <user-land> ljl, does it matter if i install that from the cli or via synaptic ?
[11:10] <Laniboy> ubotu: how do I do that when I cannot even get a terminal?!?!?
[11:11] <fluxinator> concept10: not found
[11:11] <fluxinator> concept10: how is that possible
[11:11] <dabaR> !ubotu
[11:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:11] <kodat> xroach, my wireless always worked..i just installed linux on this comp but all my other machines are conencted
[11:11] <concept10> fluxinator, sorry, try this: dpkg -l | grep xserver
[11:11] <Laniboy> jwl007: should I start with the first option then? after I've changed the text line?
[11:11] <Jowi> laz45, what kind of hardware?
[11:11] <paco_> when i was working with dapper on my amd64.. we told me to install the i386 version because many doesn't work (flash or XGL).. now with Edgy, is it the same ?? or i can install the amd64 version ? And use flash or beryl ?
[11:12] <concept10> fluxinator, any packages have a rc?
[11:12] <jwl007> Laniboy, wouldn't hurt to give it a whirl :)
[11:12] <michaels__> is freecontrib completely down? any good mirrors?
[11:12] <Jeeves___> Is anyone able to help me configure logwatch?
[11:12] <dabaR> michaels__: plf.zarb.org
[11:12] <azureal> ah, i forgot what i needed to do!  i installed...configured wireless...setup codecs, oo, mplayer, firefox+plugins... what am i forgetting....
[11:12] <laz45> Jowi: WRT54G Router and the wireless card is Airport Extreme. IRC is the only thing that works not even Ping or Traceroute works.
[11:13] <Triplemeh> kde tray icons are buggy with Edgy
[11:13] <xroach> kodat try knetworkmanager
[11:13] <Triplemeh> on GNOME I mean
[11:13] <ZeeGeek> I need to execute and kill and execute xbindkeys to enable multimedia keys everytime I restart X, can anyone gimme a hint on resolving this?
[11:13] <cerpin_taxt> hello
[11:13] <hobbesmaster> is anyone else getting very low glxgear scores with the ati binary drivers after upgrading to edgy?  it doesn't seem to mean much as I'm getting around 40fps in ut2k4 (though I should be better a lot higher than that with an x800)
[11:13] <Jowi> laz45, built in airport for the intel macs or something else?
[11:13] <Triplemeh> oh, and good afternoon
[11:13] <fluxinator> concept10: I cant see the entire output due to console limitations, but nothing there is rc
[11:13] <kodat> xroach, lol..hmm
[11:13] <Tim90> i cant creat a file in this location  '/usr/share/xsessions/
[11:13] <Triplemeh> create as root
[11:13] <laz45> Jowi: PPC iBook G4
[11:13] <Triplemeh> sudo gedit /usr/share/xsessions
[11:14] <concept10> fluxinator, well what type of error are you getting?
[11:14] <aSt3raL> anyone know how to remove the nvidia drivers?
[11:14] <Tim90> thank you
[11:14] <kodat> xroach, do u happen to remember the command to see all the connections..
[11:14] <dabaR> aSt3raL: how did you install?
[11:14] <aSt3raL> the file off thier site
[11:14] <Laniboy> jwl007: no it doesn't look good :( it has stopped now with some strange blue and green lines across the screen, same as when I try the "safe graphics mode" option :(
[11:14] <LjL> user-land: no
[11:14] <dabaR> aSt3raL: can you go get the installation instructions?
[11:14] <mjelva> can anyone try to make sense of this log, and tell me why i'm unable to compile lirc? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28728/
[11:14] <user-land> thanks, ljl, going to report back.
[11:15] <cerpin_taxt> I have a problem dist-upgrading to edgy: italian servers are probably down and now the dist-upgrader is stuck at file 1182
[11:15] <Laniboy> Does anyone know if ATI X850 XT will be supported soon?
[11:15] <LjL> !slowrepos > cerpin_taxt
[11:15] <xroach> kodet u mean ifconfig
[11:15] <aSt3raL> Type "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8776-pkg2.run" to install the driver.
[11:15] <Laniboy> Can one request that specific hardware should be supported?
[11:15] <aSt3raL> that was the install instructions
[11:15] <LjL> cerpin_taxt: try other mirrors, like se. or hr. for instance
[11:15] <fluxinator> concept10: its regarding it not being able to open fonts
[11:15] <kodat> xroach, i dunno lets see
[11:15] <jwl007> Laniboy, I dont know what else to tell you then, besides check www.ubuntuforums.org and look for posts pertaining to your video card
[11:16] <cerpin_taxt> LjL: but is it safe to kill the dist-upgrade process?
[11:16] <LjL> cerpin_taxt: as long as it's just downloading, and not installing, yes
[11:16] <kodat> xroach, i have eth0 which is connected and bhas all that other stuff
[11:16] <Laniboy> jwl007: I've done that, many ppl with the same problem, but no working answer :(
[11:16] <LjL> cerpin_taxt: besides, you probably should be using update-manager rather than apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:16] <LjL> !upgrade > cerpin_taxt
[11:16] <concept10> fluxinator, thats the only error?
[11:16] <psychiccyberfrea> anyone having a problem with apt?
[11:16] <kodat> xroach, then i have lo, which int connected cuz its just full of 0's and stuff
[11:16] <Laniboy> jwl007: but thank you for trying to help me out! really nice of you!
[11:16] <cerpin_taxt> yes sorry I am using update-manager of course
[11:16] <jwl007> Laniboy, keep asking around this channel too, maybe somebody else will know more about it
[11:17] <reagor> is there a way to turn iptables off and let everything in ... aka whore mode
[11:17] <kodat> xroach, im gona disconnect my hard connection while i see if i can get this working
[11:17] <LjL> cerpin_taxt: well, in that care i don't *really* know, because i haven't used it ;-)
[11:17] <tahorg> kodat: lo means loopback.
[11:17] <Sgeo> Extremely delayed response: nVidia RIVA TNT2
[11:17] <budluva> how come apt-cache doesn't show any 2.6 kernels? only 2.4.27-2????
[11:17] <Tim90> Could not open the file /usr/share/xsessions.
[11:17] <kodat> tahorg, ah.so that has nothing to do with my connection?
[11:17] <mjelva> can anyone try to make sense of this log, and tell me why i'm unable to compile lirc? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28728/
[11:17] <Nox_ville> can some1 help me set up linux
[11:17] <tahorg> kodat: no
[11:17] <kodat> tahorg, doh..hmm
[11:17] <Tim90> why does it say..........Could not open the file /usr/share/xsessions.
[11:17] <Shogran> Can someone tell me what room im supposed to be in for help with Xhat?
[11:17] <dabaR> Nox_ville: ask
[11:17] <Laniboy> jwl007: I've tried for about 1,5 hour, soo far you and ubotu are the only two trying to help, hehe ;)
[11:17] <Shogran> xchat
[11:17] <tahorg> kodat: I mean "it has nothing to do with your connection"
[11:17] <xroach> kodat u sure u installe network-manager-gnome
[11:17] <kodat> tahorg, i know the ubuntu recognizes my wireless card
[11:18] <cerpin_taxt> LjL: so I have to kill update-manager, manually edit sources.list and then re-run the update?
[11:18] <Sgeo> Some help here please?
[11:18] <fluxinator> concept10:/usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF OTF CID var/libdefoma/
[11:18] <Kannix> Ok here it goes again. I am trying to install ubuntu 6.10 and I get stuck at the mount point preparation. I have three partitions, one Windows, one swap and one ext3. I chose the ext3 to be the root partition. However, I get the "no root filesystem" error!
[11:18] <Shogran> nevermind
[11:18] <tahorg> kodat: iwconfig
[11:18] <kodat> xroach, yeah the thing said it was installed..but i have no idea where to find it..so i can use it
[11:18] <Kannix> What am I doing wrong?
[11:18] <flail> I'm trying to build a .deb from a source package using dpkg-buildpackage, but I get the following error: "dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: syntax error in control file debian/control at line 12: line with unknown format (not field-colon-value) - any ideas? My long description has no invalid characters, as far as I am aware..
[11:18] <tahorg> kodat: look what interface has wireless extensions
[11:18] <Laniboy> jwl007: but I guess that my gfx card isn't supported as it isn't on the hardware list :(
[11:18] <xroach> i had the same problem but it just appeared when i rebooted
[11:18] <kodat> tahorg, everything has no wireless extension except eth1
[11:18] <Nox_ville> can some1 help me set up linux
[11:18] <MukiEX> Anyone try synfig on edgy yet?
[11:18] <Triplemeh> kannit, that is a strange problem
[11:18] <LjL> cerpin_taxt: hold on
[11:18] <Triplemeh> I mean, Kannix*
[11:18] <tahorg> kodat: so triy a dhclient on eth1
[11:19] <kodat> tahorg, how do i do that?
[11:19] <budluva> Kannix, i had that problem today
[11:19] <jwl007> Laniboy, try googling for your video card and linux, see if anything else turns up
[11:19] <tahorg> dhclient eth1
[11:19] <Kannix> budluva: How did you solve it?
[11:19] <tahorg> kodat: but it's the "manual way"
[11:19] <Tim90> Could not open the file /usr/share/xsessions. whats this about
[11:19] <dabaR> Nox_ville: ask something better, we don;t know what you want yet
[11:19] <Kannix> Trinisan: indeed.
[11:19] <Laniboy> jwl007: well I think it is Edgy specific, as it worked in Dapper Drake
[11:19] <Tim90> i waant to creat a file there not edit
[11:19] <Triplemeh> sudo gedit /usr/share/xsessions/file
[11:19] <concept10> fluxinator, not sure about that one.  DO you have another computer with a web browser?  X problem may be tricky.   When I get stuck I always goto freedesktop.org,  the have the most comprehensive help, period
[11:19] <Laniboy> jwl007: just strange that they are dropping hardware support in new version
[11:20] <budluva> Kannix, when you get step 4/6 i think, where you can delete/move/resize your partitions....you must delete and recreate your / partition, there is a bug that wont allow the partitioner to install over a previous ext3 partition, thus deleting and creating a new one fixes the problem
[11:20] <Kannix> Trinisan: I had this before with an older Ubuntu. I had to do a lot of fumbling around in expert mode, before I could install.
[11:20] <Laniboy> jwl007: especially as the hardware isn't that old
[11:20] <kodat> tahorg, hmm..so i typed dhclient eth1 in the terminal but i got a bunch of denied after trying to create vars
[11:20] <fluxinator> no concept10 thats why im freaking out
[11:20] <El_Che> anyone having trouble closing eclipse (windows closes, procees doesn't) on edgy?
[11:20] <Kannix> budluva: ok, will try. One moment pls
[11:20] <jwl007> Laniboy, Edgy is meant as an "experimental" release.  For stability, stick with Dapper.
[11:20] <tahorg> kodat: with sudo
[11:20] <budluva> Kannix, yup np
[11:20] <rene32> Hi there. Where from can I get Network Manager 0.6.5?
[11:20] <tahorg> kodat: sudo dhclient eth1
[11:20] <tahorg> kodat: are you on this machine right now ?
[11:20] <concept10> fluxinator, no live cds?
[11:20] <kodat> tahorg, yah
[11:20] <Laniboy> jwl007: ah ok, i didn't know that
[11:21] <tahorg> kodat: it my cut your internet access :)
[11:21] <kodat> tahorg, im geting a bunch of network down messages
[11:21] <fluxinator> I cant run any due to the fact that my cdrom is not working
[11:21] <kodat> tahorg, wel im on a hard connection right now..we'll see
[11:21] <Drago> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLPPPP
[11:21] <Drago> sorry
[11:21] <jwl007> holy spam batman
[11:21] <tahorg> kodat: ho, do you have a physical switch for wifi ?
[11:21] <Jowi> laz45, sorry for the late response (son woke up hungry). unfortunatley no experience with those. Can you connect at all to your accesspoint/router or does it disconnect you emmidiatley?
[11:21] <concept10> fluxinator, heh, mine doesnt work either.  I was freaking out too.
[11:21] <Drago> lol yeah soz bout that ,.... pulling my hair out here
[11:21] <budluva> Kannix, any luck?
[11:21] <LjL> Drago: better safe then sorry ;)
[11:22] <Laniboy> jwl007: i thought that a Release Candidate and betas were exprerimental and that a final realease should be stable ;)
[11:22] <Drago> need some help << noob first ubu install.. anyone up for the challenege ?
[11:22] <kodat> tahorg, na, it was a button with keyboard commands but thats for windows
[11:22] <segfault_> !ASK
[11:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:22] <xroach> kodat did u try to add panel and find there ?
[11:22] <Kannix> budluva: Yep, works like a charm now.
[11:22] <Kannix> budluva: Stupid bug, really!
[11:22] <budluva> Kannix, cool, have fun :P
[11:22] <concept10> fluxinator, but at least I have a dual boot system with windoze, but its still a pain to have to boot into windows
[11:22] <kodat> xroach, yeah but i dont know where to look, its not in the main selection or anything
[11:22] <LjL> cerpin_taxt, look, it is probably safe to interrupt update-manager while it's downloading (and then, yes, edit sources.list and chance the mirrors), but i cannot guarantee that
[11:22] <Drago> Iv got an sis900 onboard network card.
[11:22] <budluva> Kannix, ya it is stupid
[11:22] <fluxinator> concept10: im mad as hell
[11:22] <Nox_ville> sorry about the afk.. so how do i set it up...
[11:22] <Drago> but the damn os dosnt seem to want to use it.
[11:22] <budluva> Kannix, im surprised it wasnt fixed before going final
[11:22] <xroach> there is some network.... dont know the english name....damn localisation
[11:22] <ProN00b> wow, why do you people call edgy stable ?
[11:22] <Kannix> budluva: It must have been around for a while, I remember having that problem before.
[11:22] <goofey> anyone know of a mirror for easyubuntu-3.023.tar.gz?
[11:22] <jwl007> !stability
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stability - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <Triplemeh> Drago
[11:23] <ProN00b> crashes for me every few seconds
[11:23] <Drago> yeah ?
[11:23] <Triplemeh> is it enabled in the BIOS?
[11:23] <jwl007> !edgy
[11:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[11:23] <cerpin_taxt> LjL: thank you, I'll try and then let you know
[11:23] <MattJ> Anyone know how to make screenshots, but movies? Like the ones so posted to youtube...
[11:23] <concept10> fluxinator, i dont think that fonts will keep x from starting
[11:23] <Drago> well the device manager sees it.
[11:23] <budluva> Kannix, first time i've seen it is here in edy
[11:23] <lab2> Does anyone know how to use FreeNX to remote from linux to a windows server?
[11:23] <Kannix> ProN00b: Because it is not going to have major upgrades during the next 6 monts. Just bugfixes :)
[11:23] <kodat> blah
[11:23] <Sgeo> If my upgrade is interrupted at a critical point, and I fix it at the command line, can I restart the graphical upgrader?
[11:23] <Jowi> laz45, btw, have you looked at this page: http://pinguin.uni-psych.gwdg.de/~ihrke/wiki/index.php/Installing_Ubuntu_on_iBook#The_built-in_Airport-Extreme_Card.
[11:23] <Kannix> budluva: hehe, maybe I am the only one still using ext3
[11:23] <ProN00b> Kannix, then get them rolling...
[11:23] <Drago> trip can I pm you ?
[11:23] <kodat> tahorg, no idea what to do heh..i cant select eth1 from my network connection list, only eth0 is visible
[11:23] <Triplemeh> the device manager can see anything
[11:23] <budluva> Kannix, i am :P
[11:23] <Triplemeh> sure
[11:24] <tahorg> kodat: dmesg | grep eth1
[11:24] <concept10> fluxinator, hold on man, im reading something about that on the xorg site
[11:24] <Tanooki> Kannix, budliva, I have the same problem, even starting with an empty disk.  And it doesn't matter what partitions I create.
[11:24] <goofey> ProN00b: it shouldn't - i've been using edgy for 3 weeks - no issues
[11:24] <tahorg> kodat: what does it say ?
[11:24] <Triplemeh> it can even see my unsupported x-fi sound card
[11:24] <budluva> Kannix, else i wouldnt have been able to help you :P
[11:24] <Codyman> Ubuntu let my monitor run at 1280x1024 out of the box (edgy)... but once the nvidia drivers were installed with automatix... it would only let 1024x768... and even after dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with correct monitor settings, still won't let me do 1280 even though its listed in xorg.conf
[11:24] <tahorg> kodat: pdon't paste here
[11:24] <Kannix> budluva: exactly.
[11:24] <goofey> ProN00b: you might have a bad install or hardware issues
[11:24] <Ademan> i want to make a feature request for synaptic, should i bug report it? or feature specification it?
[11:24] <LjL> !automatix > Codyman
[11:24] <budluva> Kannix, its actually in the edgyreleasenotes
[11:24] <laz45> d
[11:24] <laz45> HELLO
[11:24] <kodat> ummm
[11:24] <laz45> hello
[11:24] <kodat> tahorg, ummm
[11:24] <tahorg> kodat: http://pastebin.com/
[11:24] <FunnyLookinHat> ew gross automatix   ; )
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> !easyubuntu > Codyman
[11:24] <tahorg> kodat: paste there
[11:24] <concept10> fluxinator, are you getting something like this: Fatal server error:
[11:24] <concept10> could not open default font 'fixed'
[11:24] <Kazero> Can someone tell me how to get KDE for ubuntu?
[11:24] <kodat> tahorg, alright
[11:25] <Kannix> budluva: Oh, is it?
[11:25] <dabaR> !kubuntu
[11:25] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org for support: #kubuntu ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:25] <fluxinator> concept10 I see now error opening /dev/wacom : Success
[11:25] <budluva> Kazero, you dont want ubuntu, you want kubuntu
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Kazero: sudo apt-get install kde
[11:25] <Ademan> Kazero: install the kde-desktop package i believe
[11:25] <goofey> Kannix: easy was is to install kubuntu-desktop
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> or that
[11:25] <goofey> er, way
[11:25] <ProN00b> goofey, well, i am having issues since i use edgy, they didn't happen with breezy
[11:25] <|rt|> Since I've updated to Edgy I'm not seeing the boot up screen on boot...I get a black screen until it goes into X anyone know what could cause this problem?
[11:25] <lab2> Can someone help me with FreeNX
[11:25] <Ademan> Admiral_Chicago: you might be right, i have no clue
[11:25] <LjL> Codyman: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again, and besides the resolution thing, look also at the monitor setting -- you should be able to select the "best" video mode your monitor can do from there
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> budluva: that a jedi mind trick
[11:25] <Triplemeh> you'd have to configure ubuntu to use kdm instead of gdm
[11:25] <Nox_ville> PLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEE help me set up wifi
[11:25] <goofey> ProN00b: did you upgrade or install from scratch?
[11:25] <Ademan> ah, we were both wrong, kubuntu-desktop :-)
[11:25] <tahorg> Nox_ville: stop it.
[11:25] <Tanooki> Kannix, budliva, I have also tried formatting with different filesystems, and it still gives the error, no matter what file system I choose.
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Ademan: i've heard both work
[11:25] <budluva> Admiral_Chicago, eh?
[11:25] <ProN00b> goofey, not propable that my hardware gotten damaged right when i installed edgy
[11:25] <tahorg> Nox_ville: now.
[11:25] <concept10> Nox_ville, cut that out
[11:25] <LjL> Codyman: choose the "Medium", "Intermediate" or whatever it's called flavor
[11:25] <LjL> !caps | Nox_ville
[11:25] <ubotu> Nox_ville: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:25] <dabaR> stop shouting all of you
[11:25] <ProN00b> goofey, first upgrade, then from scratch
[11:26] <Nox_ville> sorry.. my keyboard got jammed ;)_
[11:26] <Sgeo> Did anyone respond to me?
[11:26] <Kannix> Tanooki: hmm, try using expert mode and do it the old fashioned way ...
[11:26] <concept10> fluxinator, your not getting that font problem
[11:26] <Sgeo> I can't tell..
[11:26] <concept10> fluxinator, ???
[11:26] <Ademan> Admiral_Chicago: on top of that kubuntu-desktop probably depends on everything you would ever need, now if only i could remember who it was that needed it in the first place...
[11:26] <LjL> !wifi > Nox_ville
[11:26] <dabaR> Sgeo: you know why? cause people send messages like your last 2 posts
[11:26] <Ademan> Kazero: install the kubuntu-desktop package
[11:26] <fluxinator> no im still getting the font problem
[11:26] <Kazero> Is the switch to kubuntu reversable?
[11:26] <goofey> ProN00b: strange....  It's possible then that edgy doesn;t like your hardware....
[11:26] <budluva> Tanooki, did you try deleting the partition and creating a new one?
[11:26] <Tim90>  libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b ,do i have to worry about this ?
[11:26] <LjL> Kazero: what do you mean with "switch to kubuntu"?
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Kazero: you can chose which one to log in
[11:26] <Ademan> Kazero: you don't so much switch as you do install KDE
[11:26] <Kannix> By the way. Is there a mscore-ttf font package?
[11:26] <fluxinator> concept 10 its removing the font paths from the list
[11:26] <ProN00b> goofey, it doesn't look like a hardware problem
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> start session as GNOME or KDE
[11:26] <kodat> tahorg, hmm how to use this pastebin lets see
[11:26] <Nox_ville> LjL: i've read that document apporxiamtely 30 times.. but it still DOES not work
[11:27] <Ademan> Kannix: yeah but i dunno what repos
[11:27] <Tanooki> budluva: Yeah, I deleted all partitions and started with a blank disk.
[11:27] <dabaR> Kazero: yes, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop;sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop;sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:27] <Kazero> Ah, I see. It was like that when I breifly had mandrake
[11:27] <tahorg> kodat: *click*send*
[11:27] <Kannix> Ademan: Universal + evil stuff or so :)
[11:27] <budluva> hrmmm....
[11:27] <Ademan> Kannix: msttcorefonts
[11:27] <dave> jesus this upgrade is long
[11:27] <budluva> Tanooki, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes?highlight=%28edgy%29#head-7348aa0831ef34256bdd066d1d9a1d112a4afa50
[11:27] <LjL> Nox_ville: well, it's all the help i can give you, since i don't have wifi. but shouting will not get you more help
[11:27] <LjL> !traffic
[11:27] <kodat> tahorg, lol yah i did..waitin for it to do something
[11:27] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, and join the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for your understanding!
[11:27] <cryptonic> hmmmm.... at the moment im using ubuntu edgy 64bit, is there better compatability for applications if i install ubuntu 32bit? and will it let me install on a 64bit machine?
[11:27] <tahorg> kodat: it will give you an url, and you paste it here
[11:27] <salim> hi I can't install ubuntu 6.10, because display gets black and I cant get to change the xorg.conf (I know what to change: MonitorLayout to LVDS,AUTO)
[11:27] <goofey> ProN00b: i didn't say there was something wrong with your hardware - just that sopmething in edgy didn't like it (unlike dapper)
[11:27] <budluva> Tanooki, The advanced partitioning mode of the installer on the desktop CD has trouble reusing an existing root file system, and will incorrectly claim "No root file system". Since you must reformat the root file system for use by the installer in any case, you can easily work around this problem by deleting and re-creating the partition in question in the advanced partitioner. [WWW]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/67130
[11:27] <Kannix> Ademan: thanks!
[11:27] <kodat> tahorg, ah ok
[11:27] <iturk> hi there my mplayer its crashing if i pause !! Where can i see a log file ??
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> wow first time i've seen #ubuntu being 1000+
[11:27] <kodat> tahorg, just gotta wait for it
[11:27] <Ademan> Kannix: np :-)
[11:27] <concept10> fluxi, come on man, i cant help you troubleshoot without the proper error message
[11:27] <walkover> i have problems with azureus shutting down shortly after being started. The problem occurred shortly after installing edgy. Does anyone know what it is or what to do about it?
[11:28] <Ademan> Admiral_Chicago: we have edgy to thank for that :-)
[11:28] <Kannix> I also wish they would have implented proxy support for the initial installer.
[11:28] <JaZyWRK> right SHIFT and BACKSPACE logs me off .. how can i stop this from happing i've checked the shortcuts and dont' seem to see it listed
[11:28] <ProN00b> goofey, you are not really helping...
[11:28] <joincamp> does anyone have a nforce2 audio chipset based on soundstorm?
[11:28] <Tim90>  libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b?
[11:28] <Admiral_Chicago> iturk: maybe ~/.mplayer
[11:28] <Kannix> the timeout is from hell!
[11:28] <Drago> this is the first linux irc room iv been in where people actually talk and dont just sit idling.
[11:28] <lab2> Would someone please help me Configure FREENX
[11:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Ademan: right bug support
[11:28] <dave> ive been upgrading 9 hours now
[11:28] <JaZyWRK> logs me off = from x
[11:28] <iturk> Admiral_Chicago: thanks
[11:28] <xroach> is there a simple c++ compiler/editor for ubuntu? im learning c++ so not nothing complicat
[11:28] <LjL> !freenx > lab2
[11:28] <walkover> slow connection dave?
[11:28] <Admiral_Chicago> !shortcut > JaZyWRK
[11:28] <Drago> << needs help fixing his network card.. any help welcome.
[11:28] <Kannix> xroach: Xemacs?
[11:28] <tahorg> xroach: g++ is great.
[11:28] <Mukunda> Hrmm, I can't get my IPW3945 working, it worked out of the box with Dapper. Anyone know what needs to be done?
[11:28] <Ademan> Admiral_Chicago: i dunno, other than my painful dist-upgrade, edgy seems better than perfect thus far
[11:28] <Kannix> xroach: and gcc of course.
[11:29] <lab2> LjL: do you know how to use FreeNX to remote from linux into Windows
[11:29] <goofey> ProN00b: you are welcome to that opinion but i think it's the corect answer based on the info you provided (and 8 years of linux exp)
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Ademan: no problems for me but i updated on Knot 1...this is offtopic
[11:29] <tonyyarusso> Is there a tool for telling me the X and Y coordinates of my cursor on the desktop?  (For then putting those parameters into byzanz)
[11:29] <segfault_> Drago, ull have to give some info if u want anyone to help u
[11:29] <Drago> Goofy
[11:29] <iturk> Admiral_Chicago: its a directory with conf files no log file !! i want a log file where is it ?
[11:29] <walkover> i have problems with azureus shutting down shortly after being started. The problem occurred shortly after installing edgy. Does anyone know what it is or what to do about it?
[11:29] <LjL> xroach: the compiler is going to be gcc no matter what. as for the editor, well, if you're just starting, i think any given text editor will do -- just use gedit for instance
[11:29] <salim> save graphics mode doesnt work, its the same, black laptop screen, can s.b. help?
[11:29] <Drago> fancy lending your 8 years of exp to my probblem ?
[11:29] <xroach> ive use only code:blocks in windows so far
[11:29] <Ademan> so anyways should i bug report a feature request or feature specify it?
[11:29] <LjL> lab2: no, sorry
[11:29] <hangfire> xroach- gcc (compiled on command line) and Skite editor are good
[11:29] <kodat> anyone know how to put an away message on gaim?
 i have the same problem, il put it down to lack of 64bit support
[11:29] <neopsyche> Greetings
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> kodat: bottom of the buddy list
[11:30] <lab2> LjL: Thanks anyway
[11:30] <goofey> Drago: try asking a specific question to the list - the person who knows best will answer
[11:30] <walkover> i have 64 cpu but 386 system
[11:30] <JaZyWRK> well it doesn't show anything listed under the logout
[11:30] <goofey> ProN00b: anyhow, good luck
[11:30] <segfault_> Mukunda, make sure u have the restrictied-modules installed for ur kernel, also do lsmod | grep ipw3945 to make sure the module is loaded
[11:30] <JaZyWRK> or i don't see anything with a shift backspace combo
[11:30] <Kannix> wow, are there really 1038 users in this channel??
[11:30] <Ademan> xroach: anjuta in edgy (forgot the version number) is pretty decent, but KDevelop is really the way to go, i'd reccomend eclipse but you have to enable the sun-java virtual machine in order to get half decent performance with it
[11:30] <walkover> do you have 64bit system?
[11:30] <LjL> Kannix: 1040
[11:30] <niklas_e> if you install the amd64 (edge) can you install and run i386 packages in amd64 version?
[11:30] <MadCowBoy> 1040
[11:30] <fluxinator> GOD im so frustrated right now
[11:30] <kodat> gotcha
[11:30] <kodat> damn this pastbin takes a long time
[11:30] <salim> indeed, but it doesnt help
 any chance of some help with my networking issues.
[11:30] <Kannix> LjL: No wonder it is scrolling like crazy.
[11:30] <dave> this has got to be irc record
[11:30] <user-land> fluxinator ?
[11:30] <user-land> god speaking here ...
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> JaZyWRK: are you sure it's not alt shift backspace because that makes you log oun
[11:30] <Mukunda> segfault_: done that already.. It still doesn't seem to want to work.
[11:30] <LjL> !traffic
[11:30] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, and join the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for your understanding!
[11:31] <tahorg> niklas_e: most of them no.
[11:31] <Kannix> LjL: Should that not be split into two or more channels? Like ubuntu1, ubuntu2, etc. :)
[11:31] <walkover> i installed the 386 edgy on a 64 bit machine. It has never been a problem
[11:31] <iturk> hi there my mplayer its crashing if i pause !! Where can i see a log file ??
[11:31] <fluxinator> user-land: lol
[11:31] <Ademan> someone needs to update ubotu, shoudl also read that you should address your messages to whoever you're talking to
[11:31] <niklas_e> thanks
[11:31] <fluxinator> I need help that badly
[11:31] <Kannix> iturk: Start it from a console.
[11:31] <walkover> my azureus just does not work
[11:31] <iturk> Kannix: ok thanks
[11:31] <budluva> Tanooki, did ya get it working?
[11:31] <LjL> Ademan: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:31] <gpled> my md5sum for 6.10 is good, but the file size is 732,293,120
[11:31] <fluxinator> orozpu
[11:31] <gpled> any idea what is going on?
[11:31] <sdali> single-clks are sometimes interpreted as dbl-clks despite the fact that I've changed the mouse, changed from PS/2 to USB, and have set dbl-clk timeout to minimum (100mS).  Anyone have any ideas? Please!
[11:32] <Ademan> LjL: why?
[11:32] <concept10> fluxinator, im trying to help, but i need the correct error message
[11:32] <neopsyche> Could anyone help me with a problem with my ubuntu installation, it seems after i have installed it that the GUI is not displaying. I am running it on an old P1 233mhz with 128MB ram, an S3 Graphics card (Triov64) I am in the xorg.conf file, is there anything i could edit here to enable the GUI? Or do i just need to refresh the GUI.. If anyone knows whats going on please help. Thanks for any help in advance.
[11:32] <slinky_> Does anyone here use an HP 1810 Laserjet printer with Dapper?
[11:32] <JaZyWRK> maybe my fat fingers are pushing alt too
[11:32] <segfault_> Mukunda, if module is loaded make sure u have ur config setup right then, ifdown eth1 and modprobe -r the module then modprobe it and do ifup eth1
[11:32] <JaZyWRK> can i stop that from happening
[11:32] <Kannix> iturk: that is mplayer, not gmplayer or kmplayer or something.
[11:32] <dave> 128mb of ram? jesus dude
[11:32] <kodat> hmmm
[11:32] <fluxinator> concept10: How can I paste it to you
[11:32] <voltz> how can I install xgl ?
[11:32] <segfault_> Mukunda, removeing the module stops the reg daemon and inserting it restarts
[11:32] <walkover> neopsyche, do you get some kind of error?
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> neopsyche: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:32] <Jowi> !xgl > voltz
[11:32] <kodat> woah woah
[11:32] <walkover> have you even installed a GUI?
[11:32] <voltz> jowi, thanks
[11:32] <concept10> just write it down and retype some of it fluxinator
[11:32] <nemlah_> Hello Ubuntas
[11:33] <nemlah_> i am having trouble with beryl on edgy
[11:33] <Y2J> i need torrent for cd image cause dvd is so big ? what it's include to be 3GB+ ?
[11:33] <Jowi> np voltz
[11:33] <gpled> anyone having trouble burning 6.10?
[11:33] <Kazero> Y2J: Why not order the CDs for free?
[11:33] <Kannix> gpled: Nope. What is the trouble?
[11:33] <segfault_> nemlah_, goto #ubuntu-xgl
[11:33] <iturk> Kannix: gmplayer
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Kazero: they aren't doing edgy shipits
[11:33] <xroach> hey can the 6.10 cd:s be ordered yet?
[11:33] <neopsyche> no, the screen is just blank, then if i use the keys to go into the commandline the sceen goes on and gives me the commandline.
[11:33] <nemlah_> segfault_: thanks
[11:33] <Kannix> iturk: Try mplayer without the "g" :)
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> only to LoCos and select teams
[11:33] <user-land> kazero, this can take months ?
[11:33] <Kannix> iturk: gmplayer has that gui ...
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> xroach: read above
[11:34] <Kazero> Admiral_Chicago: Yeah, but I have 6.06, which I can then just run the update
[11:34] <xroach> oh :D
[11:34] <kodat> hmm
[11:34] <Y2J> Kazero: it will take time to reach an african land !:) I'm from sudan !
[11:34] <Kazero> user-land: I got a special order, only took a few weeks
[11:34] <Kazero> Y2J: Nevermind then :)
[11:34] <sredojevics> neopsyche: mouse section problem maybe? do you see mouse cursor at the screen?
[11:34] <gpled> Kannix: just making costers.   what is the size of ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso ?
[11:34] <kodat> tahorg, i just did something interesting
[11:34] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[11:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:34] <neopsyche> I have installed the GUI - Gnome .. default GUI
[11:34] <gpled> seems to big to fit on a cd
[11:34] <don> !fglrx
[11:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:34] <Kannix> gpled: Hmm one moment
[11:34] <kodat> tahorg, http://pastebin.com/814527
[11:34] <neopsyche> I have had mouse troubles before
[11:34] <user-land> a special order, kazero ? faster ?
[11:35] <iturk> Kannix: with mplayer no problem only with gmaplayer !!
[11:35] <kodat> tahorg, also, i changed the eth0 to eth1 manually but i got a no signal strength
[11:35] <neopsyche> I need to configure that next probably
[11:35] <iturk> Kannix: and yes it has a nice gui that i have select
[11:35] <Kannix> gpled: 699 MB :)
[11:35] <neopsyche> at this point i dont even see the GUI though
[11:35] <tahorg> kodat: what ?
[11:35] <Tim90> think i have done it ,time to reboot into the glx
[11:35] <neopsyche> (login screen)
[11:35] <xroach> gpled u checked the m5sum
[11:35] <dave> you know what i like
[11:35] <Kannix> iturk: well start it from the console, you should see the debug output.
[11:35] <gpled> Kannix: mine is: 732,293,120 ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[11:35] <Y2J> Kazero: so, any help ?
[11:35] <dave> this OS talks to me in english
[11:35] <kodat> tahorg, u know how u can just look at the eth0 or whatever, well i changed eth0 to eth1, then it changed into wireless..but the status bar showed no strength
[11:35] <sredojevics> neopsyche: two things that you need : correct video driver and correct mouse line
[11:35] <gpled> b950a4d7cf3151e5f213843e2ad77fe3 *ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[11:36] <Kannix> gpled: 732293120 bytes, to be precise.
[11:36] <Kannix> gpled: that is 699MB
[11:36] <dave> its not ERROR 1589158151x00982429289x989892724627x in 98508390x989x8929
[11:36] <sredojevics> neopsyche: is it serial "com1" mouse or ps/2
[11:36] <slinky_> has anyone had success installing and using an HP 1018 Laserjet printer under Dapper
[11:36] <neopsyche> Serial com1
[11:36] <gpled> hmmm, wonder why it is not burning.  just hangs at 46%
[11:36] <aSt3raL> ohh i like how everything in the panel is transparent now in edgy
[11:36] <dave> thats weird
[11:36] <sredojevics> neopsyche: ok, wait a moment
[11:37] <aSt3raL> thats slick
[11:37] <dave> 46% is where my upgrade stalled earlier
[11:37] <gpled> Kannix: thanks for checking the size
[11:37] <Admiral_Chicago> slinky_: check out linuxprinting.com
[11:37] <Admiral_Chicago> it think thats the link
[11:37] <Kannix> gpled: no problem. It is calculating md5 right now.
[11:37] <laz45> whats the command to see the kernel version?
[11:37] <gpled> maybe my burner is just going out.
[11:37] <Kannix> gpled: Hang on :)
[11:37] <kodat> tahorg, ill brb can u PM me what u wanna say ..sorry got an emergency
[11:37] <sredojevics> neopsyche: maybe, this line will work:     Option      "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
[11:37] <Kannix> gpled: b950a4d7cf3151e5f213843e2ad77fe3
[11:37] <gpled> b950a4d7cf3151e5f213843e2ad77fe3
[11:37] <Drago> my sis900 eithernet card which the os can see, will not get an IP from my router ( im new to linux )
[11:37] <sredojevics> neopsyche: ..in section inputdevices...
[11:38] <Kannix> gpled: looks good.
[11:38] <gpled> Kannix: must be my burner dying :(
[11:38] <Y2J> could anyboy help me please ?
[11:38] <Kannix> gpled: Maybe bad badge of CDs?
[11:38] <sredojevics> neopsyche: Protocol should be "Auto"
[11:38] <don> laz45: uname -r
[11:38] <Kannix> gpled: Is it noname crap or something like Verbatim/TDK/Sony?
[11:38] <fluxinator> cmpt cpbin
[11:38] <lotusleaf> Y2J: go ahead and ask your question :)
[11:38] <funkja> Where is Dapper's "Disk Manager" in Edy?
[11:38] <xroach> gpled try burning slower
[11:38] <slinky_> http://www.linuxprinting.com/ PAGE NOT FOUND?
[11:38] <iturk> Kannix: http://pastebin.ca/225327 can you help me
[11:38] <ixian_> is there a 'disk manager' in ubuntu 6.10? i seem to remember something like that in 6.06 but i cant find it in 6.10
[11:38] <Kannix> iturk: hangon
[11:38] <funkja> me too ixian :)
[11:39] <budluva> anyone had any luck with the newest 8.29.6 ati drivers?
[11:39] <fluxinator> man this sucks
[11:39] <darksoul> !nvidia
[11:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:39] <gpled> Kannix: started with a verbatim cd-rw
[11:39] <Admiral_Chicago> slinky_: google linux printing, i don't remember the URL off the top of my head
[11:39] <Y2J> lotusleaf: I need a .torrent file for dc-image (not the DVD)
[11:39] <gpled> says it is only 650MB
[11:39] <budluva> dark, no binary drivers......ati.com drivers
[11:40] <xroach> gpled it should fit if u finalize it
[11:40] <slinky_> thank you Admiraal_Chicago
[11:40] <Tanooki> budluva, Nope, it does not work.
[11:40] <budluva> darksoul, i just tried the binarydriverhowto and am getting like 300fps in glxgears, i get better fps with mesa
[11:40] <fluxinator> concept10: any ideas?
[11:40] <Kazero> ixian_: Places -> home folder, then up up, and I am at something that looks like a system explorer
[11:40] <laz45> don: Thanks
[11:40] <lotusleaf> Y2J: dc?
[11:40] <Kannix> gpled: try slower speeds
[11:41] <gpled> Kannix: k
[11:41] <darksoul> budluva, is there any support for the 7600 graphic cards, nvida?
[11:41] <lotusleaf> Y2J: the desktop version you mean?
[11:41] <Kannix> iturk: Looks evil. And you say, mplayer works like a charm, gmplayer does not?
[11:41] <neopsyche> thanks sredojevics
[11:41] <Tim90> I done it guys i now have glx,Im so pround of my self
[11:41] <Y2J> lotusleaf: sorry CD and yeah the desktop
[11:41] <neopsyche> how does the mouse affect the graphics though?
[11:41] <iturk> Kannix: exactly
[11:41] <sredojevics> np, keep going with ubuntu :)
[11:41] <Kannix> darksoul: Yes.
[11:42] <Tim90> I would like to thank all those who belived in me , and helped me. I dedicate this to the ubuntu community
[11:42] <Kannix> iturk: Can you compare used video and audio codecs when using mplayer/gmplayer? Are they identical? Maybe you should check those settings at gmplayer.
[11:42] <Nox_ville> can some1 help me set up wifi?
[11:42] <iturk> Kannix: i have make the echo 1024 bla bla in root for the rtc but the problem still is the same but that message its not coming more
[11:42] <Y2J> lotusleaf: any help, please ?
[11:43] <iturk> Kannix: i will try to put them in default
[11:43] <mdd4696> I am running Ubuntu Live 5.10 and attempting to recover a disk with a deleted partition table (I believe). I'm trying to use testdisk to analyze it, but all that shows up when I run it is /dev/hdb. I can mount the drive, but when I go to the mount point, there's only a "access" directory...
[11:43] <lotusleaf> Y2J: sure, one sec
[11:43] <ixian_> Kazero, i mean a utility that let you see drives/partitions
[11:43] <Y2J> lotusleaf: tyt ;)
[11:43] <Drago> sis900 network card on board - is not getting an IP from DHCP :: I can set the IP and then web into the routers admin page so the card is working.. but its not letting me online and the DHCP aint working.. elp pls.
[11:43] <Kannix> iturk: if maplyer works, than gmplayer works, too, when you are using the same codecs.
[11:43] <ixian_> Kazero, i think it was just called 'Disks' and it was in Administration but its not there..
[11:43] <Drago> PS :: netgear wifi adls router
[11:43] <xroach> Nox_Ville u have working drivers?
[11:44] <TC`>  is there a possability to see cpu's temperature on ubuntu?
[11:44] <Nox_ville> xroach: yes
[11:44] <dave> y2j http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[11:44] <Kannix> TC`: I suppose there must be some sensors package.
[11:44] <dave> those mirrors include torrent files
[11:44] <lotusleaf> Y2J: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[11:44] <xroach> u need wpa Nox_ville
[11:44] <DJAdmiral> Hello people, facing problem installing Ubuntu on an HP Laptop.
[11:44] <dave> or that
[11:44] <lotusleaf> Y2J: if that mirror isn't fast enough for you, try another near you
[11:45] <lotusleaf> or wait that's a torrent nevermind =)
[11:45] <LjL> TC`: i have this file: /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_TZ/THRM    -   or you could use the "lm-sensors" package (run "sudo sensors-detect" first). then there are GUI applications and applets if you want them, try "apt-cache search sensors"
[11:45] <Tim90> oen 3 instal opera
[11:45] <DJAdmiral> This HP Pavilion has winxp pro on it, with an 80 gig hard disk.
[11:45] <slinky_> Admiral_Chicago: I tried using Foozjs and didn't have any success, where can i go to ask specific questions when trying again?
[11:45] <DJAdmiral> Ubuntu takes 3-6 GB.
[11:45] <DJAdmiral> The installation is asking for a 36.9 GB Minimum.
[11:45] <chapium> so?
[11:45] <rambo3> DJAdmiral, go vwith 10 Gig
[11:45] <Nox_ville> !wpa
[11:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:45] <DJAdmiral> And 37.5 GB is already used
[11:45] <Y2J> Thank a lot. a lot .. just 1 more question ? why the DVD so that big ?
[11:46] <TC`> i installed ubuntu on 8gb drive
[11:46] <TC`> ;] 
[11:46] <DJAdmiral> rambo3: I tried. It says insufficient space.
[11:46] <Drago> .
[11:46] <iturk> Kannix: i should give you this detail i have run some videos in windows that crash explorer like they create a problem in XP !! i have run then in linux all the system went crazy like i couldnt kill the process of the gmplayer i add to reboot the machine using sudo but now sometimes happens that gmplayer crashes with some other movies !! could it be a virus or i should not think like that because its linux ??
[11:46] <Saladan> After installing fluxbox and xserver-xorg, and xinit from Ubuntu EE Server, is there anything else I need to install to make it work properly? I get an error upon initiating Xinit, and I have already edited ~.(forwardslash)xinit to contain 'exec fluxbox'
[11:46] <chapium> DJAdmiral: are you using a linux formatted partition?
[11:46] <salim> I want to install ubuntu 6.10, but I get black screen. can anybody help me? how can I get into console and change xorg.conf before he starts x-server, because when I press alt+strg+f3 I get weird colors and dont see anything
[11:46] <DJAdmiral> chapium: No, the entire 80 gig hard disk is winxp pro ntfs partition.
[11:47] <Kannix> iturk: Hmm, not very likely, there have never been any Linux viruses in the wild (yet).
[11:47] <El_Che> do a safe mode?
[11:47] <Admiral_Chicago> slinky_: have you looked at the printing settings on GNOMe
[11:47] <chapium> DJAdmiral: you cannot install ubuntu on ntfs
[11:47] <Tim90> How can i install opera i have 64bit ubuntu edgy edg.
[11:47] <Kannix> iturk: But a corrupt movie file can cause problems, when played.
[11:47] <salim> i tried safe mode!!! it didnt work
[11:47] <chapium> DJAdmiral: only on a file system like ext2, ext3, reiserfs, etc
[11:47] <DJAdmiral> chapium: Which is why I'm trying to resize and use free space, as per installation options
[11:47] <iturk> Kannix: but that gmplayer totally pause my system that is a fact
[11:47] <rambo3> my ubuntu is running on ntfs just fine
[11:47] <DJAdmiral> chapium: Yes, I know.
[11:48] <DJAdmiral> chapium: I'm trying to resize with the alternate CD.
[11:48] <slinky_> Admiral_Chicago: yes if you mean Administration/Printing
[11:48] <Kannix> iturk: Well, don't play that file then.
[11:48] <Admiral_Chicago> slinky_: yes, but I don't use GNOME so i really can't follow along with you
[11:48] <laz45> How do i Upgrade my kernel to 2.6.18.1?
[11:48] <DJAdmiral> rambo3: Ubuntu cannot run on ntfs, it can only run on ext2 and ext3. Edgy can read and write ntfs however.
[11:48] <rambo3> !info linux-image-2.6.18.1-386
[11:48] <ubotu> Package linux-image-2.6.18.1-386 does not exist in any distro I know
[11:49] <DJAdmiral> !info linux386
[11:49] <ubotu> Package linux386 does not exist in any distro I know
[11:49] <DJAdmiral> !info linux-386
[11:49] <ubotu> linux-386: Complete Linux kernel on 386.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[11:49] <DJAdmiral> There you go.
[11:49] <xroach> btw is the ntfs write ON in edgy and is it working good?
[11:49] <Nox_ville> !wpa
[11:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:49] <Nox_ville> can some1 help me set up wifi?
[11:49] <Nox_ville> can some1 help me set up wifi?
[11:49] <rambo3> DJAdmiral, that was i joke , i have been using linux for 7 years now
[11:49] <iturk> Kannix: in windows they just crash explorer in linux the process its impossible to kill so it takes the all the processor and if i run it in fullscreen then i will not see no more the X environment !!
[11:49] <xroach> Nox_ville u need wpa?
[11:50] <DJAdmiral> rambo3: It didn't sound like a joke to me.
[11:50] <Dasnipa`> xroach, ntfs write is still unstable everywhere
[11:50] <Nox_ville> xroach: wtf is wpa?
[11:50] <Alethes> wow, I just absolutely love gedit and the file browser sidebar
[11:50] <chapium> DJAdmiral: if linux can write to ntfs, thats is news to me
[11:50] <lupine_85> iturk: you're kidding?
[11:50] <Temporeal> Nox_ville: A type of wifi protection?
[11:50] <Admiral_Chicago> chapium: fo real
[11:50] <bwlang> what's the easiest way to get all the build dependencies for a package?
[11:50] <DJAdmiral> chapium: It can. In Edgy. However it is unstable.
[11:50] <neopsyche_> Does anyone know how i can refresh xorg so that new settings are applied?
[11:50] <laz45> chapium: since ever linux can write to ntfs
[11:50] <lupine_85> linux's process management is far superior to windows'
[11:50] <rambo3> apt-build
[11:51] <Temporeal> When installing Fluxbox from Ubuntu EE server do I need install anything other than xserver-xorg, xinit, and fluxbox?
[11:51] <Akrito> There's a fuse module I've used to write to NTFS.  It didn't break anything.  ymmv
[11:51] <dabaR> bwlang: is the package in ubuntu and you want a newer version?
[11:51] <Admiral_Chicago> laz45: what?
[11:51] <salim> where can I find a list of ubuntu boot options?
[11:51] <bwlang> neopsyche_ i think you must restart X
[11:51] <salim> for installation
[11:51] <Nox_ville> Temporeal: thats disabled on the access point to.
[11:51] <Admiral_Chicago> you mean there are some projects i think he means it as a filesystem used as default
[11:51] <RobHu> What do I have to install to get configure?
[11:51] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[11:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:51] <Flannel> Temporeal: fluxbox depends on everything it needs
[11:51] <neopsyche_> what command do i use for restarting x?
[11:51] <bwlang> dabaR: it's in ubuntu , but i've found a bug and want to try a fix.
[11:51] <Nox_ville> chapium: whats wrong with it?
[11:51] <DJAdmiral> chapium: As it's clearl said - NTFS writing is UNSTABLE.
[11:51] <Temporeal> Flannel: So... what else does it need?
[11:51] <ixian_> is there a 'disk manager' in ubuntu 6.10? i seem to remember something like that in 6.06 but i cant find it in 6.10. it was called 'Disks' i think and it was in the Administration menu.
[11:51] <DJAdmiral> clearly*
[11:51] <Admiral_Chicago> neopsyche_: alt+ctrl+backspace
[11:52] <dabaR> bwlang: apt-get build-dep is a command you could use.
[11:52] <neopsyche_> thanks
[11:52] <fluxinator> ChaKy: SMRT SRBI.. whats that mean
[11:52] <xroach> Nox_ville install network-manager-gnome
[11:52] <salim> !bootoptions
[11:52] <ubotu> For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[11:52] <DJAdmiral> ixian_: erm, try GPartEd?
[11:52] <bwlang> neopsyche_: you must click on system, then log out, then you can use ctrl+alt+backspace to force an X restart
[11:52] <slinky_> Admiral_Chicago: can you direct me to a place where i can ask specific questions, while I attempt to reinstall this HP 1018?
[11:52] <ixian_> it wasn't gparted
[11:52] <Admiral_Chicago> !printing
[11:52] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:52] <rapha> Hi all!
[11:52] <bwlang> dabaR: thanks i'll try it out
[11:52] <Flannel> Temporeal: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/x11/fluxbox
[11:52] <Admiral_Chicago> that might help
[11:52] <Admiral_Chicago> i have to eat hinnur
[11:52] <DJAdmiral> chapium: Let the people who want to use unstable software use it. Now let's get to the problem here
[11:52] <Nox_ville> xroach: soory but im in KDE.. but #kubuntu ppl are lame.. and won't help..
[11:52] <Admiral_Chicago> err dinner
[11:52] <ixian_> it was some other utility.. let you temporarliy mount partitions and stuff
[11:53] <rapha> Is there no sun-java5-jre package anymore for Edgy?
[11:53] <neopsyche_> the problem i am having is that the GUI graphics are not showing
[11:53] <DJAdmiral> ixian_: I know, but I said TRY Gparted.
[11:53] <dabaR> fluxinator: where did you read that?
[11:53] <winston> Google Earth stopped working after upgrading to Edgy, anyone seen this bug? Should I just reinstagle GE?
[11:53] <ixian_> DJAdmiral, so the 'Disks' thing isn't in 6.10 then?
[11:53] <bwlang> rapha: you must use make-jpackage to use the sun jre (have a look a java-package)
[11:53] <tonyyarusso> Can anyone come up with a reason why a computer with Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 b/g wifi wouldn't work out of the box?
[11:53] <slinky_> thank you Admiral_Chicago, enjoy your dins :)
[11:53] <fluxinator> dabaR:  on a wikipedia thing
[11:53] <dabaR> fluxinator: it is a nationalist slur
[11:54] <rapha> bwlang: thx... too bad they made a step back :(
[11:54] <dabaR> fluxinator: which one?
[11:54] <bwlang> tonyyarusso: maybe the hardware is switched off
[11:54] <RobHu> What package is configure in?
[11:54] <bwlang> rapha: it's a license issue
[11:54] <Nox_ville> tonyyarusso: because wifi on linux is proving to be lame
[11:54] <tonyyarusso> bwlang: Good call
[11:54] <tonyyarusso> Nox_ville: Well supported chipset
[11:54] <fluxinator> something about people called serbs
[11:54] <rapha> bwlang: works for Dapper ... ?
[11:54] <kamme> I'm having trouble with my wireless network with edgy. I live at 3places and they have a diffrent wifi. I used to have the nm-applet but that doesnt work with edgy. Someone knows what to do?
[11:54] <dabaR> fluxinator: show me a link if you have one.
[11:54] <salim> !x700
[11:54] <bsims> I can't start xawtv I get X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode I am using the nvidia drivers any ideas?
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x700 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. Using command line, how can I rename a large list of files in a single directory from fileA.jpg to filename2.jpg, filename3.jpg and so on? I think I need to use mv but unsure how?
[11:54] <chapium> DJAdmiral: I'm not stopping anyone here.  If yall want to try it, its not my business.  Just offering the prescribed disclaimer when the topic arises
[11:55] <dabaR> fluxinator: how did you know to ask chaky?
[11:55] <DJAdmiral> chapium, rambo3: My problem is, during installation from a 6.10 Alternate CD to a 80 GB HP Laptop with the hard disk occupied by win xp pro, why can't I resize the NTFS partition and use 10 GB?
[11:55] <Dr_willis> gizmo_the_great1,  theres also the rename command,     and you may want to write a script using xargs,
[11:55] <chaoticg33k> hello
[11:55] <bwlang> rapha: dunno - you must agree to sun's license agreement... I don't remember it being available in dapper... maybe you have a non-standard repository in your list?
[11:56] <fluxinator> dabar, I saw .hr at the end and know that croats and serbs have similar language
[11:56] <fluxinator> I figured he could translate
[11:56] <fluxinator> dabaR: do you know what it means? if so pm me
[11:56] <neopsyche> says xserver is now disabled , there was a problem restarting x
[11:56] <matts> anyone know why when I go to boot into ubuntu from the live cd, it freezes after loading networking/hardware drivers?
[11:56] <dabaR> it means death to serbs, and if you can show me where it is, I would like to remove that if I find out it is offensive, which it sounds like
[11:57] <bwlang> gizmo_the_great1: you can use a little perl program called rename... man rename for help on that
[11:57] <rapha> bwlang: it was a big thing actually that Sun Java had been put into Universe even for Dapper.
[11:57] <bwlang> rapha: sorry - i don't know any details about it... i've always just use make-jpackage
[11:57] <Mukunda> Hrmm, I still can't get the IPW3945 to work with Edgy, this is very annoying. Dapper worked right away.
[11:57] <reagor> havin problems with azerus i didi the iptables setup and when i portscan 127.0.0.1 it still doesnt have the port open
[11:57] <bwlang> mukunda: worked for me out of the box...
[11:57] <DJAdmiral> Anybody, please - Why is the 6.10 Alternate CD not letting me resize NTFS Partition so I can use 20 GB for Linux?
[11:57] <rapha> bwlang: nm thx :)
[11:58] <matts> anyone know why when I go to boot into ubuntu from the live cd, it freezes after loading networking/hardware drivers?
[11:58] <gpled> Kannix: think i found the problem.  my cdr's are older 650s. found a 700
[11:58] <Nox_ville> can some1 help me set up wifi?
[11:58] <LJHarb> i want to install flite on dapper, does anyone know the package name?
[11:58] <Mukunda> bwlang: you just went to the network admin and chose your wireless network?
[11:58] <chapium> DJAdmiral: have you tried a different partition tool?
[11:58] <neopsyche> anyone have any advice on xorg?
[11:58] <bwlang> mukunda: uh... no - i use wpa_supplicant to auto-select a network based on my location.
[11:58] <fluxinator> I had seen it on something to do with anti-bosnian sentiment
[11:58] <matts> i'm wanting to try ubuntu out, but it won't even boot up ;\
[11:58] <n0dl> is there a certain kernel i have to use with proprietory nvidia drivers?
[11:59] <AkumAPRIME> hey there. I finally got my resolution fixed, then, while trying to get my dual monitor up, I plugged my 2nd monitor in, it booted to the 2nd, lower res monitor, and now, my resolution on the notebook is small again. And, when I try to reset the Mode to the res I want it, it WONT change, any ideas why?
[11:59] <DJAdmiral> chapium: Gparted live CD? I have it, but will the Alternate CD later allow to install Ubuntu on this partition?
[11:59] <Temporeal> When trying to start Flux I get 'XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed with 0 events remaining.'
[11:59] <fluxinator> again, I do not wish to cast an unfavorable light on ChaKy I was purely asking for translation purposes
[11:59] <Mukunda> bwlang: what was the full wpa_supplicant command that you used?
[11:59] <fluxinator> and dabaR, its all over youtube
[11:59] <sky123> hey guys..upgraded to edgy and it broke ndiswrapper...anyone having this issue??
[11:59] <Nox_ville> can some1 help me set up wifi?
[11:59] <bwlang> mukunda: but that has nothing to do with the card... to test the card itself you should try a manual association.  ifdown eth1, then ifconfig eth1 up, iwconfig eth1 essid youressid - see if iwconfig eth1 shows it as associated.  then you could try dhclient3 eth1
[12:00] <triade> Nox_ville: maybe. :-)
[12:00] <reagor> havin problems with azerus i didi the iptables setup and when i portscan 127.0.0.1 it still doesnt have the port open
[12:00] <dabaR> fluxinator: well, give me a link finally, if you can.
[12:00] <bwlang> Nox_ville: you should just ask a specific question - if anybody knows the answer they'll help.
[12:00] <dabaR> fluxinator: I know chaky, so I know he is cool...
[12:00] <fryfrog> On my x86 ubuntu install, the boot logo is in color.  On my amd64 install, it is in gray scale