[12:13] <psychiccyberfrea> anyone having apt problems?
[12:13] <Dr_willis> i just am wanting to get these rtcw:ET maps :)
[12:14] <Dr_willis> psychiccyberfrea,  not really
[12:14] <Mez> bug 68634
[12:14] <psychiccyberfrea> cuz when I update my lists, it says 'hit' instead of 'get
[12:14] <psychiccyberfrea> I'm using dapper
[12:14] <argonel> means up to date afaik
[12:15] <Dr_willis> psychiccyberfrea,  using edgy and i get the same 'hit' :)
[12:15] <dako> does anyone know how to configure acpi-support?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> argonel,  makes sence to me
[12:15] <argonel> you'll probaby also see it downloaded 18 bytes or something like that
[12:16] <psychiccyberfrea> no, just 5
[12:16] <psychiccyberfrea> 5 bytes
[12:16] <argonel> heh
[12:16] <argonel> long, slow download :p
[12:21] <matto> aa
[12:21] <psychiccyberfrea> is dist-upgrade not working either?
[12:21] <matto> avalon bel nome
[12:21] <matto> lo giocato alle corse
[12:21] <matto> dei cavalli
[12:22] <avalon> Is it just me, or are the repositories for edgy really slow?
[12:23] <shadowhywind> HELP!!! i tried installing nvidia drivers, after installing if i do startx it works. But if i restart, it comes up with no screens found
[12:24] <shadowhywind> any ideas
[12:24] <avalon> No clue? I used the Automatix for Edgy and it worked fine.
[12:25] <shadowhywind> well here is another question
[12:25] <shadowhywind> i think i know the answer, what would happen if i removed the package linux-386
[12:25] <psychiccyberfrea> shadowhywind:  try to go to a terminal and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:26] <psychiccyberfrea> or xorg-xserver
[12:26] <psychiccyberfrea> or something like that
[12:26] <shadowhywind> will that overwrite the nvidia drivers?
[12:26] <psychiccyberfrea> no, but it will let you reconfigure xserver so you can go back to using the NV driver
[12:28] <jhutchins_wk>  There was recently an update of the w32codecs package on PLF, but no change in the mplayer files.  Any idea what it might have been?
[12:28] <jhutchins_wk> avalon: It's not just you - it's everybody who'd upgrading to edgy.
[12:29] <avalon> Ok jhutchins_wk, just wanted to be sure my 5mb connection wasn't screwed up
[12:30] <shadowhywind> restarting, wish me luck
[12:33] <DaSkreech> !senn Dshepherd
[12:33] <DaSkreech> !seen Dshepherd
[12:33] <ubotu> I last saw DShepherd (n=dwight@port0034-afo-adsl.cwjamaica.com) 16m 27s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[12:39] <jarn> Is there some reason Alt steals focus?
[12:39] <SoloSeKNoSeNada> there is no one
[12:48] <CVirus> !upgrade
[12:48] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[12:48] <psychiccyberfrea> anyone having apt problems?
[12:49] <MeTa> no
[12:49] <MeTa> :)
[12:50] <CVirus> !aiglx
[12:50] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[12:52] <argonel> jarn: "alt steals focus"?
[12:54] <Acidic32> yo
[12:54] <Acidic32> Qt: 3.3.6
[12:54] <Acidic32> KDE: 3.5.5
[12:54] <Acidic32> kde-config: 1.0
[12:54] <Acidic32> o_0
[12:54] <Acidic32> how comes kde-config never changes? :P
[12:55] <Acidic32> no matter what kde ur running lol
[12:58] <jarn> argonel: Yes.
[12:59] <jarn> argonel: In a game, whenever I hold alt, clicking anything in the game doesn't work. And it's not the game, alt is supposed to do something. However, ctrl+alt works fine, so I think the alt key has something binded to it... but I don't know what.
[01:07] <h3sp4wn> jarn: What sort of a game ? is it running in xterm ?
[01:08] <argonel> jarn: often pressing ALT alone selects the menu bar
[01:10] <h3sp4wn> argonel: would you know how to map alt-arrow key to meta+arrow (using the escape sequences) in xterm ? (I know its to do with the vt102 options that need to be overridden in .Xdefaults)
[01:11] <Subnormal> hi
[01:13] <Subnormal> i have a problem that i think that may to be a bug... Since i updated to edgy when i close a search tab in amule, amule is closed, somebody can check that in his amule under edgy please? i want to be sure that is a bug before submit it
[01:15] <jarn> h3sp4wn: It is running in Wine.
[01:15] <jarn> argonel: Can I turn that off?
[01:15] <h3sp4wn> jarn: try #winehq (maybe they know about it)
[01:16] <jarn> h3sp4wn: I don't think it's a problem with Wine.
[01:16] <h3sp4wn> jarn: does it work right if its run from raw xinit
[01:16] <h3sp4wn> jarn: (could be kde steals it)
[01:17] <jbwarnken> hi all from Florida
[01:17] <h3sp4wn> hi
[01:18] <jarn> h3sp4wn: What is xinit?
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> jarn: it will start just x and a single terminal (if kdm is stopped)
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> jarn: (that will allow you to see whether it is the window manager that is doing it or not)
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> jarn: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop (then run xinit from the text console) if it works then you know its kde
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> jarn: If it doesn't its either X or wine
[01:21] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Okay.
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> jarn: at the moment it could be either X kde or wine (easier by elimination - at least for me)
[01:22] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Yeah, I don't think it's wine. It could be, but I don't think so.
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> jarn: knowing whether its kde or X would help though (as the methods for troubleshooting it are completely different)
[01:23] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Okay, I'll stop kdm now.
[01:24] <h3sp4wn> jarn: you know how to start it again (I take it)
[01:24] <xelnaga> hola?
[01:24] <xelnaga> alguien espaol??
[01:24] <h3sp4wn> !es
[01:24] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:24] <xelnaga> gracias
[01:25] <luxus> !de
[01:25] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:27] <Subnormal> i have a problem that i think that may to be a bug... Since i updated to edgy when i close a search tab in amule, amule is closed, somebody can check that in his amule under edgy please? i want to be sure that is a bug before submit it
[01:29] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Okay, it didn't happen that way.
[01:29] <jarn> It worked fine. So does that mean that it is something in KDE?
[01:29] <h3sp4wn> jarn: yes
[01:29] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Any ideas?
[01:30] <h3sp4wn> jarn: are you using beryl or compiz ?
[01:30] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Uhh... whatever the default is.
[01:32] <h3sp4wn> jarn: You are not using (wobbly windows or anything)
[01:32] <h3sp4wn> jarn: I presume you are not if you don't know
[01:33] <jarn> h3sp4wn: I do not have any windows that wobble.
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> jarn: So its just standard kubuntu
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> jarn: run kcontrol
[01:34] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Okay.
[01:34] <h3sp4wn> jarn: Try regions and accesibilty - check if there is anything in xkb options
[01:35] <jarn> h3sp4wn: What is xkb?
[01:35] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Oh, found it.
[01:35] <jarn> h3sp4wn: It's all disabled.
[01:36] <h3sp4wn> jarn: what about keyboard shortcuts (the 1 underneath)
[01:37] <jarn> h3sp4wn: A lot are set, but it appears as if none are for the alt key alone.
[01:38] <MetaMorfoziS> what program can play dvdmenus?
[01:39] <wildchild> is there a way to upgrade to lates version of kununtu; or I have to install iso flie?
[01:39] <Hawkwind> !upgrade | wildchild
[01:39] <ubotu> wildchild: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> jarn: I have a similar problem with alt behaving not as I want (not in kde in xterm) There is a way to map the keys but I haven't worked it out yet
[01:46] <osiris> is anyone else having issues with the PLF dapper mirrors ?
[01:47] <loz> hi
[01:48] <loz> anybody alive at this time?
[01:48] <loz> we only come out at night
[01:48] <loz> cause the days are much to bright
[01:48] <Subnormal> where can i submit kubuntu bugs?
[01:49] <loz> ANYBODY know much about wifi on kubuntu?
[01:50] <unix_infidel> loz: no, i know about wifi on linux, sorry.
[01:50] <unix_infidel> ask a pertinent question.
[01:50] <loz> wel its the same?
[01:50] <unix_infidel> loz: like i said, you are more than welcome to ask a pertinent question here mate.
[01:50] <loz> get  a pertinent answer
[01:51] <unix_infidel> :)
[01:51] <loz> ok
[01:51] <loz> lets talk about something else
[01:51] <loz> i don t care
[01:51] <loz> it s late anyway
[01:51] <loz> lets talk aobut xgl
[01:52] <loz> and how it makes useless window users green
[01:52] <loz> hi hi
[01:52] <loz> or something
[01:52] <osiris> what the heck are YOU on ?
[01:52] <loz> Toshiba
[01:52] <loz> hi hi
[01:52] <unix_infidel> loz: maybe you were looking for aol chat?
[01:52] <loz> kubuntu edgy to be exacct
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> loz: What do you need to know ?
[01:52] <fede> are there going to be free ubuntu 6.10  cds?
[01:53] <unix_infidel> fede: nope, not through shipit anyway.
[01:53] <h3sp4wn> fede: no only lts will be sent through shipit
[01:53] <loz> how to get my wireless to work
[01:53] <osiris> fede, depends on how cheap your friend with the cable modem is
[01:53] <h3sp4wn> !doesn't work
[01:53] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:53] <loz> and i shall be on my way
[01:53] <loz> sorry
[01:54] <ccomp5950> loz are you using WPA?
[01:54] <loz> i ve tried downloading all the software that synaptics propose
[01:54] <fede> ok, thanks
[01:54] <the-erm> Has anyone upgraded to 2.10 and had problems with the screen saver not running  - in particular the slide show.
[01:54] <the-erm> sorry ... 6.10 I mean.
[01:54] <osiris> the-erm, did you try launching xscreensaver by hand ?
[01:54] <loz> and i seem to be given a i p,but no internet connection
[01:54] <osiris> is the app totaly busted, or is the daemon not running
[01:54] <carlos> hello people, does anyone know how to listen to the misic in a mixed cd
[01:55] <loz> no it s working
[01:55] <the-erm> xscreensaver isn't even loaded, maybe that's the problem.
[01:55] <osiris> !restricted media > carlos
[01:55] <the-erm> I'm running kde, and didn't know it relied on that program.
[01:55] <avuton> Could anyone tell me what package asm-offsets.h is in?
[01:55] <osiris> er...
[01:55] <avuton> (should be in /usr/include)
[01:55] <I_Died_Once> anyone know how to fix screensavers in kubuntu? I upgraded to the latest KDE via adept and they're still broken
[01:56] <osiris> !restricted formats > carlos
[01:56] <I_Died_Once> 6.06
[01:56] <loz> ok, do you know how i could get back on a ubuntu, not to keen on kde, prefer gnome;
[01:57] <unix_infidel> loz: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <loz> i tried this
[01:57] <loz> qnd no luck
[01:57] <loz> seems to be missing sme pqckqges
[01:57] <unix_infidel> and then select gnome from KDM or GDM or your xinit method of choice and go nuts.
[01:57] <Hawkwind> Try using sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop instead :P
[01:58] <unix_infidel> silly me, assumes people know when to be root :)
[01:58] <cgeo> i'm about to install kubuntu 6.10.fresh installation.i now have kubuntu 6.06. my home folder is in a separate partition. will it retain the same configuration for the kde and firefox (fonts, bookmarks etc)???
[01:58] <unix_infidel> cgeo: sure will :)
[01:58] <Hawkwind> cgeo: It should, yes
[01:58] <loz> not sure
[01:58] <unix_infidel> for the most part.
[01:58] <Hawkwind> cgeo: However, be warned that KDE might act weird so you might have to move your ~/.kde directory and start with a fresh KDE config
[01:59] <I_Died_Once> any ideas on how to enable screensavers? I'm on kubuntu 6.06, updated to KDE 3.5.5 and screensavers still dont work
[01:59] <I_Died_Once> never did
[01:59] <h3sp4wn> loz: So is the accesspoint open ? (i.e no encryption)
[02:00] <loz> yes
[02:00] <cgeo> Hawkwind:really?? i'm asking cause i know that it will be another version of kde in edgy. isn't it fully compatible with the configurations of the privious kde?
[02:00] <loz> i ve downloaded it all ok
[02:00] <willzzz> damn i love the new fonts in edgy
[02:00] <BluesKaj> I _Died -Once, I'm still trying to figure out why my scrnsaver settings won't hold as well
[02:00] <h3sp4wn> loz: run ``route''
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> loz: see if a default route exists
[02:01] <loz> route?
[02:01] <loz> ok
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> loz: just a command will give some output
[02:01] <the-erm> nope no go I installed xscreen saver, and it's still not running :/
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> loz: default         alien.lan       0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> loz: should have a line like that
[02:02] <cgeo> exit
[02:02] <BluesKaj> I_Died_Once, I did have them scrnsavers working in dapper til i upgraded to kde 3.5.5 :( ...same goes for my windows network printer
[02:03] <loz> i seem to hqve got gnome working now
[02:04] <Varjat_by> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! - during ./configure I've got this message... How I can fix that?
[02:05] <doppelganger_> anybody know of a list of wireless cards that are officially support by ubuntu?
[02:05] <BluesKaj> Wonder if I dump kde and install gnome if that will solve my problems
[02:09] <spocky> hello
[02:09] <Eimann> hi
[02:10] <troxor> !nvidia | troxor
[02:10] <ubotu> troxor: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:10] <spocky> I'm wondering what the "Dock Application Panel" is for? I did not make any sense out of it. I can not drop any icons on it, nor can I find any place where I can configure it or at least ask it what it's for. So what's it for? And if there is, where do I find a manual for it?
[02:10] <jarn> Alt is binded to something in KDE that is stealing the focus or something (it prevents me from interacting with any program while held), how do I find out what is going on and change it?
[02:13] <h3sp4wn> jarn: have you asked #kde (that is the type of thing they are more likely to know)
[02:14] <Eimann> !netboot | Eimann
[02:14] <ubotu> Eimann: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:15] <Eimann> Hmm.
[02:16] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Good idea, thanks.
[02:17] <ubuntu_> hi
[02:18] <Eimann> I've modified netboot.tar.gz of ubuntu edgy to do a network install of kubuntu, but when i boot it, i get a "cp: unable to open '/root/var/log/': No such file or directory [some more of this errors]  Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init.
[02:19] <OOD> jarn: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9920/snapshot2za5.jpg
[02:19] <Eimann> the interesting part of my pxelinux.cfg/default got these two lines: kernel ubuntu-installer/i386/linux linux preseed/url=http://192.168.100.2/kubuntu.seed and append vga=normal boot=casper initrd=ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=1048576 root=/dev/ram rw  --
[02:19] <jarn> OOD: Yep, someone just told me in KDE
[02:20] <jarn> OOD: Thanks.
[02:20] <OOD> btw, has anyone tried neverball and engima in edgy?
[02:20] <OOD> jarn: yea
[02:21] <ubuntu_> Uptime: 3 hours and  minutes
[02:23] <Varjat_by> Gays.. I have a link to interested lib - http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/x11/x-window-system-dev . How i can tell to Adept Manager to install this package?
[02:24] <Varjat_by> With all dependencies..
[02:25] <h3sp4wn> Varjat_by: don't install that its for hoary
[02:26] <h3sp4wn> Varjat_by: xorg-dev (install xorg-dev and it will get most of the headers for X
[02:27] <BluesKaj> !Edgy Sources List
[02:27] <Varjat_by> Thanks..
[02:28] <BluesKaj> !Sources List
[02:28] <Eimann> *sigh* no one here with a kubuntu edgy installed via pxe?
[02:28] <Varjat_by> Oh :) May be can easy aksplain what is the difference between deb and deb-src repositories?..
[02:30] <Varjat_by> And I olso coudn't find xorg-dev package in list of AdeptManager :(
[02:31] <BluesKaj> Is there an up to date Edgy Sources List ? ...mine seems to be broken
[02:34] <Varjat_by> :(
[02:35] <Varjat_by> Look.. I found xorg-dev on http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/x11/xorg-dev
[02:35] <Varjat_by> So, how i can configure my sorces.list file to install it?
[02:36] <rUiSu> hi :), has anyone tried to install kubuntu 6.10?
[02:36] <Varjat_by> I write: deb http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/x11/xorg-dev dapper main - where is mistake?
[02:37] <rUiSu> huh?
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted multivers universe
[02:38] <h3sp4wn> Varjat_by: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted multivers universe
[02:38] <yacoob> hm
[02:38] <yacoob> is there anything for mass tagging music files?
[02:39] <avuton> Could anyone tell me what package asm-offsets.h is in? (should be in your /usr/include if you have it)
[02:39] <yacoob> I know easytag, what's else?
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> Varjat_by: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main restricted multivers universe (same for edgy-secuity as well you only need the 3 lines
[02:39] <rUiSu> has anyone intalled kubuntu 6.10 on their machine?
[02:40] <Varjat_by> yacoob: Thanks a lot! I promice you to read man sorces.list same later!
[02:41] <rUiSu> i am traying to install kubuntu 6.10 on my machine, but at the mounting point part 5/6 or 6/6 i think, i get the error : There is no root filesystem
[02:41] <rUiSu> and i have setup a / larger than 2 gigabites and a swap gibber than 256mb....
[02:41] <shadowhywind> i was wondering if there was a log of the text that bootup creates
[02:44] <Furesho> so, lemme get this straight. when you install a program in linux, there isn't a huge bunch o' files added to your comp in differnet folders like in windows? just the one command file?
[02:44] <morbid88> Hi guys.I need help -- These last couple of days I've been receiving a message from the system that the signature check on Google's SSL certificate is invalid.
[02:45] <morbid88> it started when I switched to KDE on Ubuntu. Is it related?
[02:45] <rUiSu> yup
[02:45] <rUiSu> Furesho: yup
[02:45] <rUiSu> oh
[02:45] <rUiSu> umm
[02:46] <rUiSu> no, there are lots of commands and files when nstalling a program
[02:46] <rUiSu> depends on the program you want
[02:47] <Furesho> hmmm...
[02:47] <Furesho> actually, i'm tryin to install a prog called comical
[02:47] <rUiSu> is it text based?
[02:47] <Furesho> i have to install from source.... but not sure where to put what files b4 i run whichever commands i run
[02:47] <Furesho> nope. gui
[02:47] <Furesho> wxWindows based
[02:48] <rUiSu> aha, a a comic viewer
[02:48] <Furesho> yeah
[02:48] <rUiSu> so, i trust there will be lots of files generated
[02:48] <Furesho> i can't officially leave windows without me manga ;)
[02:48] <rUiSu> hehe
[02:48] <Furesho> i have no clue.
[02:48] <rUiSu> yes, most probabli, gui programs need lots of files
[02:49] <morbid88> Does anyone have an idea why google's SSL certificates are reporting as invalid now that I've switched to KDE?
[02:49] <rUiSu> and tools like GTK, kde, gnnome, etc
[02:50] <rUiSu> morbid88: are you using konqueror?
[02:50] <Furesho> hmmm..... lotsa file inside the tar file that i got.
[02:50] <rUiSu> Furesho: then yeah, it will generate lots of little files :)
[02:50] <mariano7> I do not know if I am miunderstanding the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu. Is KDE the only big difference between the two distros?
[02:50] <rUiSu> mariano7: yes
[02:51] <mariano7> Oh, and If I am not able to install ubuntu, is this also a sign that I may not be able to install kubuntu?
[02:51] <Furesho> ah. now, the first question beckons.... what directory should i do all this from? should i move this tar or what?
[02:51] <waspy> i am currently in single user mode, how can i get into multi user and no X?
[02:52] <rUiSu> mariano7, depends, if your problem is on gnome, then you will prolly have no problem with kubuntu, if thats not your problem, then theres lots of chance you will get the same error
[02:52] <wildchild> where do I enable restricted format from multiverse for mp3 ?
[02:52] <waspy> !mp3 | wildchild
[02:52] <ubotu> wildchild: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:52] <rUiSu> Furesho: have you ever compiled from source?
[02:53] <Furesho> no. not to install a program. i've installed a simple hello world before, though
[02:53] <mariano7> well, I booted from the ubuntu disk and I press the load and install option. I then get the ubuntu logo and progress bar. However, after a while I just get a little flashing line on the upper left hand side of the screen. After a few minutes the line goes away and I am left with a black screen.
[02:54] <rUiSu> oh, then that must mean you downloaded a cd but with bytes errors, like some bytes missing, or something
[02:54] <rUiSu> mariano7: i wolud recomend to redownload the cd
[02:54] <waspy> i am currently in single user mode, how can i get into multi user and no X?
[02:54] <mariano7> I've downloaded the cd two times
[02:55] <wildchild> waspy: my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28757/ qhat should I enable or disable it ??
[02:55] <mariano7> I tried a different cd of the 6.06 version which I have already used on a desktop
[02:55] <mariano7> That cd gives me a kernel panic
[02:55] <rUiSu> mariano7:oh, then its prolly a global ubuntu.... but it would not kill you to try kubuntu ;)
[02:55] <mariano7> ok
[02:56] <rUiSu> ok, people, im haveing prblems with kubuntu 6.10, i cannot complete the install
[02:56] <rUiSu> has any one experienced this?
[02:56] <mariano7> will kubuntu run any slower on my laptop than ubuntu. I have a dothan 1.7 intel 855gm chip
[02:56] <waspy> wildchild: er... i cant look at that... i'm kinda stuck in single user mode and therfore stuck in here
[02:56] <rUiSu> mariano7: i dont know, i don know the diferences from gnome and kde
[02:57] <mariano7> cool
[02:57] <mariano7> thanks
[02:57] <Eddy> hi the sounddont work in Flashplayer. How i gonna fix this ?
[02:57] <rUiSu> mariano7:your wellcome
[02:58] <rUiSu> Furesho: ok, ill tell you some advice on installing from source
[02:58] <acesuares> hi, problems with edgy and i810 video card driver (ABI version not good).
[02:58] <acesuares> Is there anyone who has solved this yet, or who can tell met to downgrade to Xorg 7.0 ?
[02:59] <Furesho> cool. hit me.
[02:59] <rUiSu> Furesho: first, create a directory somewhere, mostly convienient on you home directory, then uncompress the tar you have on that new folder
[02:59] <Eddy> the sound i flashplayer dont work. any body  now how to fix it ?
[02:59] <Eddy> i use opera
[02:59] <rUiSu> Eddy:nope
[02:59] <Furesho> alrighty
[03:00] <Furesho> done
[03:00] <Eddy> sombody another
[03:00] <rUiSu> Furesho: ok, later, when its uncompressed, you should enter in the source program's folder by konsole
[03:01] <rUiSu> Fursho: kinda like, in your desktop right click, run commnad, konsole
[03:01] <Furesho> i'm in
[03:01] <root> hello
[03:01] <cgeo> can you tell me where i can find the list of edgy eft repositories??
[03:02] <rUiSu> cd /home/yourhomedir/sourcedir/comical/
[03:02] <rUiSu> ok
[03:02] <rUiSu> so
[03:02] <rUiSu> type
[03:02] <rUiSu> sh configure
[03:02] <Varjat_by> I alredy cann't install xorg-dev :(
[03:02] <Furesho> sh? that one looks new.
[03:02] <rUiSu> and it will display some code, wait till it stops and says "Done, continue to make..."
[03:03] <Furesho> sh: configure: no such file or directory
[03:03] <rUiSu> yes, sh is for ececuting files, its a SHell
[03:03] <root> does anyone know if there is a driver for the audio card maya44 mk2 for linux???
[03:04] <rUiSu> ook, then check if there ois a INTALL file, and check instructions
[03:04] <rUiSu> :P
[03:05] <rUiSu> ok, wait, in what folder are you within konsole?
[03:05] <morbid88> rUiSu: sorry, I must have wandered off... I'm using Evolution and KoPete.
[03:05] <Furesho> ~/allfiles/comicalsrc/comical-0.8
[03:05] <morbid88> And they both report bad ssl cerificates from google.
[03:06] <rUiSu> Furesho:okok, so look for some instruction file
[03:06] <rUiSu> morbid88: no prblem ;)
[03:07] <Furesho> ChangeLog, COPYING, README (which gives no clues) are all i see
[03:07] <morbid88> rUiSu: I'm wondering if it's possible that my system's been compromised?
[03:07] <morbid88> althouh there'd be no reason.
[03:07] <rUiSu> morbid88: nono, its prolly a conflict
[03:07] <rUiSu> morbid88:evolution is your web explorer?
[03:08] <morbid88> no, it's my mail app.
[03:08] <morbid88> I use Opera -- you know what? I think Opera also reports it, and it MAY have started when I installed it.
[03:09] <rUiSu> morbid88: thats prolly the problem
[03:09] <morbid88> is there a way I can verify? If I remove Opera, for instance?
[03:09] <rUiSu> nono, you should try pther explorer
[03:10] <rUiSu> liek firefox..
[03:10] <rUiSu> like*
[03:10] <rUiSu> see if it reports this also
[03:11] <morbid88> rUiSu: hang on, let me give it a go.
[03:13] <Furesho> ComicalSetup.iss what's this?
[03:13] <morbid88> (speaking of firefox, how do I install Ver. 2? there are no instructions or scripts in the package...)
[03:13] <jorgegomez> hello
[03:14] <morbid88> rUiSu: the ceritificate appears valid under Firefox and Opera.
[03:15] <rUiSu> morbid88: so opera also reports the certificate valid???? wasn't that your problem??
[03:15] <rUiSu> Furesho:no dont touch that, find something like "INSTALL" or SETUP or README
[03:15] <morbid88> no, the problem was with evolution and kopete. When you mentioned a browser, I tought that MAYBE it started with opera. But it started some time after I set up kde, I don't know how long after or if it's related.
[03:16] <rUiSu> morbid88: try apt-get ungrade firefox, hhaha but dont listen to me, i don know how to uprgrade any program :P
[03:16] <rUiSu> oh ok
[03:16] <morbid88> rUiSu: look. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28760/
[03:17] <Furesho> the README is there, but it only boasts the features of comical :\
[03:17] <morbid88> This says that the issuer is equifax. The website, www.gmail.com reports the certificate from Thawte.
[03:17] <morbid88> I find that odd.
[03:18] <jorgegomez> hello to anybody
[03:19] <jorgegomez> i want to download yahoo messenger
[03:19] <jorgegomez> and i dont know how
[03:19] <OOD> use kopete
[03:19] <jorgegomez> but? how?
[03:19] <rUiSu> morbid88: yes, thats odd, prolly evolution and kopete are looking for that Equifax instead of the correct Thaete, but, do not worry, try to uninstall and reinstall evolution and kopete, they may have conflicts...
[03:19] <jorgegomez> i dont know not much about ubuntu
[03:19] <OOD> kmenu->internet->kopete?
[03:19] <LjL> jorgegomez: you have Kopete in your Internet menu. it can connect to lots of networks, including the Yahoo AIM network
[03:20] <rUiSu> hmm
[03:20] <Furesho> okay, here's a rundown on what's in the folder: other folders containing icons and source code, files in the folder include a changelog, readme, a makefile, and some kdevelop-related files
[03:20] <jorgegomez> kopete?
[03:20] <morbid88> rUiSu: hmmm... "sudo apt-get remove kopete"?
[03:20] <LjL> jorgegomez, yes, Kopete. K menu / Internet / Kopete
[03:20] <rUiSu> Furesho: is there any other file in big caps?
[03:20] <jorgegomez> ok let me try tanks
[03:20] <Furesho> just README, COPYING, AUTHORS, and TODO
[03:20] <rUiSu> hehe i dont know :P, you should usethe adept installer
[03:21] <jorgegomez> i got kopete
[03:21] <morbid88> I usually use apt-get or synaptic... adept? That's the "Add/Remove" under Gnome?
[03:21] <rUiSu> Furesho: ok, so open TODO and see if there sais INSTALL, if it does, then were screwed
[03:21] <rUiSu> oh, ioh
[03:21] <rUiSu> umm
[03:21] <morbid88> found it.
[03:22] <rUiSu> probably ":P
[03:22] <rUiSu> was it?
[03:22] <morbid88> I'm on KDE now.
[03:22] <morbid88> :-)
[03:22] <Furesho> screwed -__-
[03:22] <rUiSu> ook :)
[03:22] <rUiSu> yes?
[03:22] <Furesho> thanks anyways
[03:22] <rUiSu> Furesho: does it say INSTALL?
[03:23] <rUiSu> Furesho:dont worry, there must be some instructions , just google them ;)
[03:24] <rUiSu> the cant just release some apps without install instructions, there MUST be some instructions left on the web page, or ask saint-google
[03:24] <morbid88> ooooooh.... I just opened "Kontact" and I got blinded by the eye candy. Who needs evolution anyway?
[03:25] <constantine-xvi> what tells the battery monitor in the tray how much battery you have left?
[03:25] <constantine-xvi> morbid88: doesent the entirety of kde blind you with eye candy?
[03:25] <Furesho> nothing. i get the word comical, but not in the sense of the application.
[03:26] <morbid88> constantine-xvi: true, true.
[03:26] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: fire up Konsole and type acpi -b
[03:26] <unix_infidel> or for a more comprehensive output, try acpi -V
[03:26] <morbid88> Okay, next question. I'm using two languages and for some reason the keyboard shortcut doesn't switch between them. Anyone have an idea why not?
[03:27] <constantine-xvi> unix-infidel: that works, but not the monitor in the tray
[03:27] <felixjet> wine 0.9.24 is out ;p
[03:27] <rUiSu> nice
[03:27] <OOD> felixjet: yep. have it compiled and running here :)
[03:27] <rUiSu> hum
[03:27] <constantine-xvi> unix_infidel: that works, but not the monitor in the tray
[03:27] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: i wouldnt know.  I dont use KDE, heck, I mostly use X to spawn $TERM's
[03:28] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: also, try tab-completion :)
[03:28] <constantine-xvi> sorry
[03:28] <felixjet> anyone have run enemy territory?
[03:28] <OOD> felixjet: yea i had it running
[03:28] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: for instance type "unix[then press tab] "
[03:29] <constantine-xvi> yeah, i know, i use it in the terminal, just my irc client usually sucks
[03:29] <rUiSu> Fursho:ive found some instructions
[03:29] <rUiSu> get again within konsole to your comical source dir
[03:29] <felixjet> OOD: where you downloaled it? i dont know why but the version from official website runs at 5 FPS for me :( is the loki installer better?
[03:30] <rUiSu> and type: sudo make
[03:30] <morbid88> hi. anyone here use multiple languages on KDE?
[03:30] <OOD> felixjet: you have the nvidia or ati driver installed?
[03:30] <felixjet> nvidia
[03:30] <rUiSu> morbid88: ive used in japanese, spanish and english
[03:31] <morbid88> rUiSu: I can't get the keybaord shortcut to work.
[03:31] <morbid88> It just doesn't respond.
[03:31] <rUiSu> morbid88:what short cut?
[03:31] <morbid88> it worked fine under GNOME.
[03:31] <morbid88> uh... whatever. I've tried 'em all, under the keyboard utility.
[03:31] <Erich-K> Is there a way to update the KDE artwork without upgrading to 6.10?
[03:32] <rUiSu> morbid88: i thnk kde doesnt have keyboard shortcuts to changing the languajes
[03:32] <constantine-xvi> Erich-K: grab a disc, pull out the artwork
[03:32] <constantine-xvi> easy
[03:32] <felixjet> OOD:  nvidia driver
[03:32] <OOD> felixjet: you have the nvidia driver running right now?
[03:32] <morbid88> rUiSu: all I can say is "......."
[03:33] <rUiSu> yup
[03:33] <Brydenn33> ok i'm trying to connect to EFnet and it wont let me cuz it says i dont have "ident" installed
[03:33] <rUiSu> i THINK.. im no expert
[03:33] <Brydenn33> anyone know how to fix this junk?
[03:33] <rUiSu> i have not touched a linux distro in like 2 years
[03:33] <Brydenn33> btw i'm using Konversation
[03:33] <rUiSu> mhm
[03:34] <Erich-K> constantine: Is there any way to do it via downloading?
[03:34] <jorgegomez> SAID , MY PASSWORD IS WRONG
[03:35] <jorgegomez> IF I WANT TO CONNECT TO YAHOO MESSENGER
[03:35] <constantine-xvi> Erich-K: go to packages.ubuntu.com, search for kubuntu artwork, and make sure to pick edgy
[03:35] <felixjet> OOD:  yes, i have it configured and enabled acceleration
[03:35] <jorgegomez> CAPITAL CAN DO SOME WRONG?
[03:35] <enyawix> can i go to next version with synaptic?
[03:36] <rUiSu> Brydenn33: then how are you here? are you trying with another nick?
[03:36] <rUiSu> Brydenn33: , ok, so as i understand, EFnet wont let you in....
[03:37] <rUiSu> try another nick
[03:37] <jorgegomez> DOESNT WORK KOPETE
[03:37] <jorgegomez> HOW CAN I INSTALL MESSENGER YAHOO
[03:37] <morbid88> rUiSu: under the language icon->configure->Xkb Options there's a list of shortcuts.
[03:37] <Hawkwind> jorgegomez: Please drop the capital letters and type normally
[03:37] <Erich-K> constantine-xvi: Thanks mate
[03:37] <jorgegomez> I TRIED WITH KOPETE
[03:37] <jorgegomez> BUT
[03:37] <jorgegomez> OK
[03:38] <jorgegomez> I WILL TRY THANKS
[03:38] <rUiSu> morbid88: oh... then i have no clue UnU
[03:38] <OOD> felixjet: dont know what the  problem is, patch up to v2.60 if you havent done that already
[03:38] <jdiwnab> I'm trying to install kubuntu, but the fomatting part isn't doing anything. It just sits there forever and does nothing for almost 15 minutes, no progress
[03:38] <Brydenn33> rUiSu: that's right
[03:39] <rUiSu>  jdiwnab: try clickng next
[03:39] <Brydenn33> efnet wont let me connect
[03:39] <Brydenn33> keeps disconnecting me cuz it says i dont have ident installed
[03:39] <morbid88> rUiSu: "UnU"?
[03:39] <rUiSu> Brydenn33: tryed other nick?
[03:39] <rUiSu> its a sad, eyesclosed face
[03:39] <felixjet> OOD: but the version from official website is ok? i dont need the loki installed or anything else?
[03:39] <sorush20> !enblend
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enblend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <Brydenn33> i'll try another nick i guess
[03:40] <rUiSu> mhm
[03:40] <earl_> hey guys. so i installed kubuntu 6.10rc the other day. today i did sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade. am i now running the full release version?
[03:40] <morbid88> ah
[03:40] <earl_> or do i have to do sudo apt-get writegreatamericannovel to dot hat
[03:41] <Brydenn33> rUiSu: [18:45]  [Notice]  -irc.easynews.com- *** Notice -- You need to install identd to use this server. If you have ident installed, ensure you are not blocking port 113 via a firewall.  Visit our website for additional assistance at www.easynews.com/irc.
[03:41] <morbid88> okay. btw, I'e reinstalled opete (I'm forgoing evolution for kontact) and the messages are gone. Thanks.
[03:41] <morbid88> okay, one more, since I appear to be on a roll here.
[03:41] <constantine-xvi> hal isin't reporting battery times right
[03:41] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: i dont think hal has anything to do with acpi.
[03:42] <morbid88> I've reinstalled my wireless driver, but I don't know how to get it to start automatically. where do i put the module file so that init.d/networking knows to load it?
[03:43] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: acpi works flawlessly for a lot of mobile computing users.  i think your daemon is acting funny, check your logs for some errors associated with acpi and maybe some other hardware abstraction errors.
[03:43] <rUiSu> nope, i have no experience with networking :(
[03:43] <rUiSu> IDENT Issues
[03:43] <rUiSu> Sunday, July 2, 2006 @ 12:30:00 (MST).
[03:43] <Frederick> folks does anyone ever set a Genius VideoCam Look to work in kubuntu?
[03:44] <jdiwnab> rUisU: it's at the part where it is suppose to format, and so there is no next. This windows apears when I click "Install"
[03:44] <constantine-xvi> unix_infidel: i grep'd hal for battery, reports 100 (and i have a sony battery), acpi reports 85
[03:44] <some0ne> I see on Kde-look.org there are IceWM themes for KDE. Can I use these with KDE and if so how so?
[03:44] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: i'd trust the acpi values.
[03:44] <cpk2> morbid88: modprobe modulename  ?
[03:44] <rUiSu>  Brydenn33: there where some issues in efnet, i thin you have an abusive ISP, do you know if you have that isp??
[03:45] <morbid88> uh... does that set it up permanently?
[03:45] <Brydenn33> rUiSu: haha ya just read that
[03:45] <Jucato> some0ne: you just need to have the IceWM window decoration engine installed, then you can use that
[03:45] <Brydenn33> hmm i'll try another server
[03:45] <rUiSu> mhm
[03:45] <morbid88> cpk2: oh, wait, right, problem was that modprobe can't see the module.
[03:45] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: especially since by now you pretty much "KNOW" your batter, and how much remaining time is at what %
[03:45] <rUiSu> jdiwnab: yes, the installer does seem buggy
[03:45] <morbid88> so I need to stick it somwhere, like /etc/something_system-ish/modules
[03:45] <rUiSu> iv tried to installit, but when mounting it sais y have no root filesistem, but i did setup that....
[03:46] <some0ne> Jucato: How to install that?
[03:46] <jdiwnab> rUiSu: is there anything I can do?
[03:46] <Jucato> some0ne: that, I don't know... I've done it before but forgot how to... sorry... (try Google?)
[03:46] <rUiSu>  jdiwnab: yes, you can post a bug
[03:46] <jdiwnab> :(
[03:47] <hatchek> Hello everyone
[03:47] <rUiSu> lol, i have just seen my bug posted :P
[03:47] <rUiSu> tststs, the should have cheked for that earlier
[03:47] <cpk2> morbid88: not really sure what you are asking but /etc/modprobe.d/ ?
[03:47] <hatchek> Question, how does one add a program, say samba, to start at boot?
[03:48] <morbid88> cpk2: could be, let me have a look-see
[03:48] <morbid88> cpk2: is this where I copy the wireless_driver.ko file?
[03:48] <[GuS] > Au revoir, bonne Nuit!! Bye!
[03:49] <cpk2> morbid88: going into the directory and modprobing it from there doesnt work?
[03:49] <rUiSu> buenas noches :)
[03:49] <rUiSu> [GuS] 
[03:50] <morbid88> eeeeesh. Got a bunch of errors. Forgot to use depmod -a
[03:50] <constantine-xvi> unix_infidel: that's great, now how do i get hal fixed so i dont need to go to a terminal to know how long till my battery explodes?
[03:50] <hatchek> How do you add a program to the default startup?
[03:51] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: I'm sorry I cant help there, maybe there's a KDE option that allows you select?
[03:51] <morbid88> cpk2: nope, didn't seem to work. Got a lot of errors in the .ko file
[03:51] <ccomp5950> HELP!!!!  KAtomic has got a hold of me and I can't stop!
[03:51] <constantine-xvi> unix_infidel: nope, id probably have to rewrite the mon
[03:51] <constantine-xvi> morbid88: sudo apt-get remove --purge katomic
[03:51] <constantine-xvi> :)
[03:51] <morbid88> cpk2: what's katomic?
[03:51] <morbid88> !katomic
[03:51] <ubotu> katomic: Atomic Entertainment game for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 133 kB, installed size 716 kB
[03:52] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: i prefer gkrellm to a sys tray notification system.
[03:52] <rUiSu> its a game of molecules
[03:52] <xsacha> lol
[03:52] <morbid88> oh, oh, right. Like atomix.
[03:52] <jdiwnab> !wireless
[03:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:52] <constantine-xvi> ccomp5950: sudo apt-get remove --purge katomic
[03:52] <morbid88> is that a comment that I'm spending too much time playing games?
[03:52] <rUiSu> ok, ive seen the work arround to installing the cd
[03:52] <rUiSu> see you people later :)
[03:52] <constantine-xvi> morbid88: sorry
[03:52] <morbid88> :) np
[03:52] <jdiwnab> work arround?
[03:52] <rUiSu> yes
[03:53] <rUiSu> look at the bugs page
[03:53] <jdiwnab> where is that?
[03:53] <rUiSu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[03:53] <rUiSu> in Known Issues, last one
[03:53] <jdiwnab> thanks
[03:53] <hatchek> Last time, how do you add a program to load during boot?
[03:54] <rUiSu> your wellcome, gbye :)
[03:54] <hatchek> In gentoo I'd just rc-update but nothing like that exists on ubuntu
[03:56] <earl_> is there a way to lock the toolbars in kopete so they don't have those ugly dotted lines around them?
[03:56] <morbid88> !rmmod
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rmmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <morbid88> does rmmod unload a module?
[03:57] <hatchek> yes
[03:57] <LjL> morbid88: only if it's not used by other modules
[03:57] <hatchek> modprobe is the other
[03:57] <hatchek> but you need to run them as root (sudo)
[04:08] <Steven_M> hi all
[04:08] <Steven_M> have any of you ever heard of an open source program (regardless of platform) that monitors call bell systems in assisted living facilities to see how long it takes caregivers to answer them?
[04:09] <fon_Zograf> hi people ^_^
[04:09] <fon_Zograf> (russkie estb?=)
[04:10] <metalkr> could you help me?
[04:10] <metalkr> with my kubuntu
[04:10] <fon_Zograf> i very bad speake eng =) only rus & jap longuage =)
[04:10] <jdiwnab> crud... I manually formatted stuff and the installer crashed... Only I am without network access ATM, so no bug report filing possible
[04:11] <TheWheat> hey guys i have an issue with konqueror here. i have a detailed list view. sorted by file type. when i press 'a' konq highlights files based on filetype not filename unlike windows explorer does. anybody know how to get it to search by filename while sorted by file type?
[04:11] <xsacha> without network access? you're talking to us..
[04:11] <jdiwnab> bad NIC on that computer
[04:11] <dragonflyseven> fon_Zorgraf: You speak english much better than I speak Russian. :)
[04:13] <arunkale> hey people.. i have some problems with fonts on flash
[04:13] <Mez> Steven_M, never heard of something like that - but it'd be an interesting project to create ;)
[04:13] <waspy> i am currently in single user mode, how can i get into multi user and no X?
[04:13] <arunkale> i have the required msttcorefonts and the other stuff installed, and even then i can't see fonts properly.. I see all fonts as times new roman instead of arial, can someone help?
[04:13] <jdiwnab> It did this before, it would look like it is starting to reformat, and it either freezes up or crashes the whole installer
[04:14] <jdiwnab> ARG! IT DID IT AGAIN!
[04:14] <jdiwnab> any suggestions?
[04:15] <Mez> waspy, sudo init 3
[04:15] <waspy> thanks
[04:16] <Steven_M> Mez: indeed are you volunteering? :-)
[04:17] <jdiwnab> HELP!
[04:17] <Furesho> just for kicks, i wanted to open up kdevelop & do a simple console app. however, seems i'm havin trouble, cuz i have to pick a project template and i see every type of app BUT a console app.
[04:17] <Mez> Steven_M, I wish I had the time. unfortunately, I have no time to commit, but as i said - it's an interesting project
[04:18] <arunkale> !flash
[04:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:18] <arunkale> !flashplugin
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashplugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <arunkale> !flashplayer
[04:18] <Steven_M> ok, thanks anyway Mez :)
[04:19] <Mez> np Steven_M
[04:19] <jdiwnab> GRRRR.... It says to look in /var/log/syslog, but there is no /var/log/
[04:19] <fon_Zograf> People. Prompt how to include a transparency in Kubuntu 6.10. If "Composite" "enable" - the system brakes. The driver put on this management http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide . For this message I use online the translator sorry. Give the reference to a management under " my situation ". thx ^_~
[04:20] <jdiwnab> should I just type in what the traceback is?
[04:23] <jdiwnab> Ok, I found the syslog
[04:23] <jdiwnab> but as I said, it isn't on a computer that can get on the internet
[04:24] <morbid88> okay, so apparently "rmmod" does cause problems when the module is running.
[04:29] <morbid88> thanks for your help, all. I think I've resolved most problems.
[04:29] <morbid88> g'night.
[04:29] <morbid88> exit
[04:29] <morbid88> (I'll do that "exit" thing every single time until I learn... *sigh*)
[04:30] <jdiwnab> HELP SOMEBODY!
[04:30] <some0ne> jdiwnab: Type ls /var
[04:30] <some0ne> jdiwnab: Are you suer there is no directory /var/log?
[04:31] <jdiwnab> It was hidden
[04:31] <jdiwnab> I found the log, but I can't really post it because of network issues
[04:31] <some0ne> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:31] <some0ne> I have libx11 installed what the hell. >_<
[04:32] <jdiwnab> It says it is checking the swap space in parition #2 of IDE2 slave(hdd)...
[04:32] <jdiwnab> And in a minute it will crash
[04:33] <reldruh> I'm having some trouble with samba share permissions I was hoping I could get some help with
[04:34] <reldruh> when I browse the share via smb://my-server/my-share the owner is me and I can freely edit, delete, move all files
[04:34] <reldruh> after I mount it, the owner becomes root and I get access denied whenever I try to do anything
[04:34] <reldruh> Can anybody tell me how to keep the owner as myself?
[04:34] <jdiwnab> Or maybe this time is when it freezes :(
[04:36] <reldruh> jdiwnab: what's wrong?
[04:36] <Danger> ? help i can not start 6.1 with my rdion card
[04:36] <Danger> 'radion
[04:36] <reldruh> Danger: what do you mean 'can't start'?
[04:36] <jdiwnab> The installer for kubuntu either freezes for crashes when I click "Install"
[04:36] <Danger> loads then starts x then freezes
[04:36] <dude_> hello guys
[04:36] <reldruh> dude_: hey :-)
[04:37] <Danger> so  get the "meter" then blank screen
[04:37] <Furesho> *sigh* how can i run a "hello world" template and get something to go wrong?.... aclocal: configure.in: 8: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library  <-- anybody know what that means?
[04:37] <reldruh> jdiwnab: I used to have that problem. Make sure you're using the actual release and not an earlier version
[04:37] <reldruh> Furesho: are you working in kdevelop?
[04:37] <dude_> reldruh: hello
[04:37] <Danger> <is using the actual
[04:37] <jdiwnab> I just downloaded the disk from the download page today
[04:38] <Furesho> yeah
[04:38] <Furesho> kdevelop3
[04:38] <reldruh> Danger: sorry, don't know anything about that.
[04:38] <Danger> humm any one ?
[04:39] <reldruh> jdiwnab: just try it a few times? The same thing happened to me, but after the 3rd of 4th time it just worked and I haven't had any problems since
[04:39] <jdiwnab> I've tried it about 5 times, and restarted twice
[04:39] <reldruh> Furesho: you're just doing the console app, not the kde or win32 one?
[04:40] <Furesho> yeah, i guess. for the template i picked the "simple hello world" template
[04:40] <Furesho> no gui. just wanted to try a simple console app.
[04:40] <xsacha> what package do i need to compile .exe's? didnt come with kubuntu :(
[04:40] <Furesho> i figured if i just built it, it should run right off.
[04:40] <xsacha> cant find it in reps
[04:40] <reldruh> Furesho: I still get the same error. What fixed it for me was running automake + friends, then configure, then build (just ignored the errors) then went back and ran automake + friends again and it worked
[04:40] <Danger> I would settle for a quick install
[04:40] <Furesho> .......
[04:40] <reldruh> Furesho: you'd think so, but I had such a hard time working with kdevelop
[04:41] <reldruh> Furesho: if that doesn't work, try the alternate CD?
[04:41] <xsacha> relduh: what package do i need to compile win32 binaries?
[04:41] <xsacha> linux binaries in kdevelop worked fine
[04:41] <Furesho> oh dear lord. linux is hellish.
[04:41] <reldruh> xsacha: I have no idea. I've never done it. Try building hte basic win32 app, see what errors you get and post them back here
[04:41] <xsacha> reldruh: i said before, c++ compiler cannot create executables -- what package do ineed?
[04:42] <Furesho> i have no idea what you meant by all o' that stuff you said about automake + friends, etc
[04:42] <reldruh> Furesho: it's really not that bad. There's a higher barrier to entry because of the lack of mainstream support, but it's so much better once you get into it
[04:42] <xsacha> Furesho: delete that AM_PROG_LIBTOOL  -- click on the error and then highlight and delete
[04:42] <xsacha> it'll compile fine without it
[04:42] <joshua__> Hello room
[04:42] <Furesho> O_O;
[04:42] <reldruh> joshua__: hi :-)
[04:43] <Furesho> so, i'll be deleting a file like that?
[04:43] <xsacha> no
[04:43] <xsacha> you'll be deleting a line in a file
[04:43] <joshua__> Will the info on ubuntuguide.org be accurate for a kubuntu installation?
[04:44] <reldruh> joshua__: ubuntu and kubuntu both use the same installer. It should be fine
[04:44] <Jucato> er.. not really... but still the same 6 steps
[04:44] <reldruh> Jucato: really? They both use Ubiquity, no? It's always been the same install process on both of them for me
[04:45] <Furesho> i can't seem to do that, xsacha
[04:45] <joshua__> Well would the repos's still be the same?
[04:45] <Jucato> reldruh: same Ubiquity, but different program for the installer: GParted vs. QtParted
[04:45] <_goofy_> what brand video card isbest for linux
[04:45] <Jucato> joshua__: yes the repos are the same
[04:45] <joshua__> And will easy ubuntu work with Kubuntu?
[04:45] <dude___> so how's 6.10?
[04:45] <reldruh> _goofy_: nvidia generally has better linux drivers
[04:45] <reldruh> dude_: wonderful!
[04:45] <reldruh> joshua__: yes
[04:45] <joshua__> Ok, thank you very much.
[04:45] <Jucato> joshua__: there are specific versions of EasyUbuntu for Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[04:46] <joshua__> Oh?
[04:46] <joshua__> Is there an Easy Kubuntu then?
[04:46] <dude___> reldruh: totally different?
[04:46] <jdiwnab> I used the 64 bit desktop disk found at: http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/
[04:46] <Furesho> maybe i should just take it back to the basics and learn what the heck i'm seein on my screen word by word
[04:47] <reldruh> jdiwnab: do you have a 64 bit processor?
[04:47] <jdiwnab> yes
[04:47] <joshua__> I am having a problem with one of the steps on ubuntuguide.org that I didn't see on there before when I monkied with 6.06.  I can't seem to run the freecontrib command that follows the instrustions to edit the sources.list.
[04:48] <reldruh> dude_: no, not really. It's still pretty similar, but lots of upgrades. KDE 3.5.5 is the biggest one
[04:48] <Jucato> PLF is down I think, or doesn't support Edgy...
[04:48] <Danger> whats the trick to start up with the FB=false option
[04:48] <astroO> hello guys
[04:48] <astroO> can someone help me install quake 3 on kubuntu edgy amd64 please ?
[04:49] <joshua__> Ok thanks again
[04:49] <reldruh> does anybody know why samba has one owner when I browse to it via smb:/ and another one after I've mounted it which keeps giving me access denied errors?
[04:49] <dive-o> Anyone know of a good MUD client that'll run on kubuntu? I honestly don't care if it's X, Gnome, or KDE based, I'm just tired of lyntin :)
[04:49] <jdiwnab> Is there anything I can really do? Or should I give up like the previous linux atempts?
[04:50] <dive-o> jdiwnab: what's the problem?
[04:50] <jdiwnab> I have a windows one that I can port as soon as I get linux installed (in about 10 minutes)
[04:50] <jdiwnab> the kubuntu installer freezes or crashes
[04:51] <dive-o> hrm
[04:51] <dive-o> what kind of hardware?
[04:51] <jdiwnab> AMD64
[04:51] <jdiwnab> umm...
[04:51] <jdiwnab> What else do you need to know?
[04:52] <astroO> i just installed edgy 64 on amd64 3700+, works fine except dualview dunno how to config damn xorg.conf =)
[04:52] <dive-o> was wondering about motherboard, drives, ram, etc
[04:52] <jdiwnab> Crappy onboard ATI GFX
[04:52] <dive-o> I'm about to upgrade from dapper to edgy
[04:52] <jdiwnab> Asus MB
[04:52] <jdiwnab> 1.5 GB of random RAM that has worked well previously
[04:53] <joshua__> Might be a bad download, bad CD, dirty drive
[04:53] <jdiwnab> Samsung 60GB HD (installing on)
[04:53] <astroO> memtest your ram maybe jdawiz
[04:53] <astroO> jdiwnab,
[04:53] <joshua__> I've downloaded distros before that seemed to junk out
[04:54] <xsacha> Furesho: click on the warning about  that line, and then it'll open that file.. delete that line in the file
[04:54] <Danger> my cd is fine and I still cant run
[04:54] <Danger> this si daft
[04:54] <jdiwnab> My ram worked in SuSE 10.1, but not everything else did
[04:55] <dive-o> hrm
[04:55] <Furesho> i did that. nothing happens. you see, it's not in the errors window. it's in the messages window. don't really know if that makes a difference, but that's where it is and when i click it, i get nothin.
[04:55] <Danger> There has got t be a fix for this xandros and suse run fine but kubuntu wont start?
[04:55] <jdiwnab> It freezes/crashes after I hit the "install" button that is after partioning
[04:56] <Danger> at least you get that far
[04:57] <jorgegomez> i cant login messenger yahoo
[04:58] <jorgegomez> kopete dont reconigze my password
[04:58] <jorgegomez> any can help me
[04:58] <jdiwnab> :(
[04:58] <jorgegomez> i changed my pass by small capitals
[05:00] <Art_> So how do I get rid of that stupid bouncing cursor in Edgy?
[05:00] <jorgegomez> hello somebody can help me to login to yahoo messenger?
[05:01] <Danger> any one have issues starting the live disk with an ATI card
[05:01] <jdiwnab> Danger, Not with starting the live disk
[05:01] <BonBonTheJon> Art_: look in the system settings
[05:02] <jdiwnab> What is the disk check suppose to do when it is done?
[05:02] <Danger> Damm It gets to X and locks up
[05:02] <jdiwnab> what is your card?
[05:02] <jorgegomez> am tried kopete but dont let me come in
[05:02] <Danger> Radion 7800
[05:03] <jdiwnab> Radion express 200, or something like that
[05:03] <Danger> is there a way of watching the boot with out the mooving bar screen
[05:03] <dude___> if i upgrade my 6.06 tp
[05:04] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: what is your problem
[05:04] <jdiwnab> Some distros have you press an f# button
[05:04] <BonBonTheJon> Danger: I think it is alt-f1
[05:04] <Danger> ok i iwll try nned to debug this
[05:04] <jorgegomez> i have messenger yahoo in my desktop but how can i extract those files/
 i have messenger yahoo in my desktop but how can i extract those files/
[05:04] <BonBonTheJon> jorgegomez: I can't connect to yahoo messenger with Kopete either
[05:05] <jdiwnab> The installer for kubuntu freezes and/or crashes when I click the "install" button after the formatting page
[05:05] <jorgegomez> well we are 2
[05:05] <Danger> saidly says it isnt alt-F1
[05:05] <qwerty> anyone dual boot install on a raid 0 with windows already installed?
[05:05] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: if the live cd doesnt work, try the alternative install disc, I have had much better success with it
[05:06] <crunchyy> hello
[05:06] <jdiwnab> does it atleast have a basic installer?
[05:06] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: text mode installer if thats what you mean
[05:06] <BonBonTheJon> hi crunchyy
[05:06] <crunchyy> ohhhhh ok it's working :D
[05:07] <dude___> question
[05:07] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: I normally just download the alt install cd
[05:07] <reldruh> Mez: release of Katapult?
[05:07] <BonBonTheJon> dude___: ask it
[05:07] <Mez> reldruh, yes, I'm getting ready to release a new version of katapult
[05:08] <dude___> i want to upgrade my kubuntu
[05:08] <Jucato> Mez: fixing the Katapult-Amarok thingy?
[05:08] <reldruh> Mez: what are the differences between it now and in your new version?
[05:08] <Mez> Jucato, lol - yeah - even though Riddell uploaded the wrong patch to edgy ;)
[05:08] <BonBonTheJon> dude___: whats your question
[05:08] <Jucato> Mez: lol :)
[05:08] <reldruh> Mez: you're a KDE developer?
[05:08] <jorgegomez> how can i descompress yahoo messenger from my desktop
[05:08] <dr`venom> hey guys, I am knew to kubuntu and I can't seem to install knetwork manager from source. I use to do it with ./configure, make, make install on suse
[05:08] <Danger> who had the amd64 issue
[05:08] <Mez> reldruh, I develop lots of things, and yes, I guess you could call me a KDE developer
[05:08] <dude___> BonBonTheJon: how do i upgrade?
[05:08] <qwerty> anyone dual boot install on a raid 0 with windows already installed?
[05:09] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: knetworkmanager is in teh repos
[05:09] <dr`venom> rpm?
[05:09] <BonBonTheJon> !upgrade | dude___
[05:09] <ubotu> dude___: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:09] <dr`venom> I can't connect to my wireless
[05:09] <cpk2> dr`venom: ubuntu doesnt use rpms, it uses .debs
[05:09] <dr`venom> the wirless manager does not offer a wpa option
[05:09] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: did you look in adept, it should have knetworkmanager
[05:09] <BonBonTheJon> !wpa | dr`venom
[05:09] <ubotu> dr`venom: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:10] <dr`venom> ok
[05:10] <dr`venom> !wpa
[05:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:10] <jdiwnab> what is the CD check suppose to do when it is done?
[05:10] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: its been a while, but I think it asked to go to the installer
[05:10] <sheft> Hello, i read somewhere that edgy has AIGLX built-in. is that true, and is that the same thing as XGL compiz/beryl?
[05:10] <jdiwnab> Danger, I have amd64, but I don't know if you where talking about me
[05:11] <crunchyy> hi, i'am discovring the IRC with Kubunt, is there some other known server?
[05:11] <Danger> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-96.html is supposed to be abou tthat
[05:11] <qwerty> where is this alternative?  I can't find a place to dl
[05:11] <BonBonTheJon> crunchyy: there are other IRC servers, but this is the one that has kubuntu
[05:12] <sheft> (officially)
[05:12] <BonBonTheJon> true, thanks sheft
[05:12] <sheft> crunchyy: u can try quakenet (dedicated for gamers)
[05:12] <jdiwnab> OK, it said to press any key to contenue, only faintly so I coudln't see it accross the room
[05:12] <sheft> or efnet dedicated for "warezers" :P
[05:12] <Danger> Geee look at Suse boot! bye kubuntu!
[05:12] <BonBonTheJon> qwerty: http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/ is where I downloaded mione
[05:12] <crunchyy> where can we found them?
[05:13] <crunchyy> no, no warez :D
[05:13] <qwerty> nice, thanks bonbon
[05:13] <dr`venom> so, I went to the wireless doc pages. Dont I have to be online first to be able to do the apt-get on knetwork manager
[05:13] <dude___> jucato: help :)
[05:14] <dr`venom> i'm doing it on my laptop which I cannot connect to the internet
[05:14] <Jucato> dude___: what's up?
[05:14] <crunchyy> is there a web adress that list servers per category?
[05:14] <dr`venom> So when I do the apt get it says that package could not be found
[05:14] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: can't you plug the laptop in to download the file
[05:14] <Jucato> crunchyy: you'd have to google for them I think. some known servers are DALnet, Undernet, Freenode (this one), quaknet, tc
[05:15] <dr`venom> nope, I dont have an extra network cable
[05:15] <crunchyy> ok thx a lot google is my friend good luck...
[05:15] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: it might be on the install cd if you have that around
[05:15] <dr`venom> I would hate to have to go out and buy an extra one. Is there no easy way to install from source?
[05:15] <dr`venom> I have the kubuntu cd
[05:16] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: if you install the package it will get updated later, unlike from source
[05:16] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: you can install from source if all else fails
[05:16] <NDPowerBook> Hey all
[05:16] <dr`venom> so, my best bet is to go buy an extra network cable to connect my laptop to the internet first?
[05:16] <NDPowerBook> Whats the easiest way to upgrade to 6.10?
[05:16] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: so you already have the source
[05:17] <NDPowerBook> I'm running 6.06
[05:17] <BonBonTheJon> !upgrade | NDPowerBook
[05:17] <ubotu> NDPowerBook: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:17] <dr`venom> yup
[05:17] <NDPowerBook> Thanks
[05:17] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: do you have build-essential isntalled
[05:17] <dr`venom> I put it on my flash drive and transfered it to my laptop
[05:18] <dr`venom> I dont see it, I just installed edgy. I have never used kubuntu before.
[05:18] <dr`venom> But, from the looks I dont think it is installed
[05:18] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: ok, put in the cd, open adept and try to install knetworkmanager
[05:20] <dr`venom> the package is not on the cd
[05:20] <dr`venom> just did a search with adept
[05:20] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: do you have the cd in the sources
[05:20] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: its in main so I would think it is on the cd
[05:21] <dr`venom> I put the cd in and I did a search knetworkmanager
[05:21] <dr`venom> and nothing, it only shows knetworkconf
[05:21] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: use bittorrent to download faster
[05:21] <TehUni> dr`venom: sudo apt-get install wlassistant
[05:21] <dr`venom> I have wireless assistant
[05:21] <Jucato> how do I permanently change the DNS? whenever I edit /etc/resolve.conf (or in System Settings), it reverts to the original DNS after a reboot
[05:21] <TehUni> oh
[05:21] <dr`venom> but unlike knetwork manager, it does not offer the wpa
[05:21] <TehUni> gotcha
[05:22] <jdiwnab> How fast is the torrent? I can download noramlly at about 600Kb/s
[05:22] <dr`venom> option
[05:22] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: much faster than only a server
[05:23] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: if you go to the download page look for bittorent and use that
[05:23] <dr`venom> i'm going to go ask my neighbor to see if he has an extra network cable
[05:23] <dr`venom> brb
[05:23] <Furesho> i had to install libtools
[05:25] <BluesKaj> Why won't the screesaver work in kde 3.5.5 ...is there a bug fix ?
[05:25] <BonBonTheJon> BluesKaj: it worked for me
[05:26] <BluesKaj> it works in the test mode etc but when it 's in real time...no go
[05:27] <jorgegomez> ey how can i clear suse 10.1 and set up windows ?
[05:27] <jorgegomez> somebody can help me/
[05:27] <BluesKaj> well, bully for you BonBonTheJon, but that doesn't help me
[05:27] <BonBonTheJon> BluesKaj: sorry :(
[05:28] <BluesKaj> BonBonTheJon,did you do a clean install or upgrade to edgy ?
[05:28] <felixjet> !Shockwave
[05:28] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[05:28] <BonBonTheJon> BluesKaj: I upgraded, but a lot of stuff messed up so I am reinstalling
[05:28] <felixjet> u_U
[05:29] <sts9> how much system slowdown am I going to experience if I install the kdebase-dbg package for usefuls bug reports?
[05:29] <BluesKaj> jorgegomez, goto the suse chat, this is ubuntu/kubuntu
[05:29] <jdiwnab> Would it be hard to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.10?
[05:30] <jorgegomez> ok
[05:30] <sts9> jeez the firefox dbg package is almost 50Mb! wow, thats almost more then all the kde dbg packages combined!
[05:30] <jorgegomez> how can i go to suse
[05:30] <BluesKaj> reinstalling how , BonBonTheJon?
[05:30] <BonBonTheJon> BluesKaj: backing up my files and reinstalling
[05:30] <dmitri> has anyone tried ff2.0?
[05:30] <jdiwnab> the windows version
[05:30] <jdiwnab> yes
[05:31] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: that is not a good idea, you should go 5.10 to 6.04 to 6.10
[05:31] <BluesKaj> how are backing up your files ...to cd?
[05:31] <jdiwnab> I didn't like the new tabs, but I like everything else
[05:31] <BonBonTheJon> BluesKaj: I have a file server
[05:31] <BluesKaj> ok
[05:31] <jdiwnab> BonBonTheJon, is that hard?
[05:31] <dmitri> is it worth installing or should i wait untill official release?
[05:31] <sts9> I dont like the new tabs either, Its annoying
[05:31] <Dr_willis> dmitri,  i thoght it was officially released.. :P
[05:31] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: I do suggest moving to 6.04, but hold on the move to 6.10
[05:32] <jdiwnab> I found an extention that fixed some of the annoyances
[05:32] <Dr_willis> dmitri,  using it under edgy and windows xp - no issues so far.
[05:32] <xsacha> im using 32-bit ff2.0 under amd64 kubuntu edgy... working fine
[05:32] <jdiwnab> I ask becuase I have my good 5.10 disks, and didn't know about using them instead of all this mess with the 6.10 disk I just got
[05:32] <dmitri> Dr_willis: i was wondering how it runs on linux
[05:33] <sts9> I havent had any crashes with it so far, and Im using it with the new flashplayer beta
[05:33] <Dr_willis> dmitri,  runs fine for me.
[05:33] <xsacha> it takes a while to start up, but fast once it's open
[05:33] <Dr_willis> same here sts9
[05:33] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: maybe if you do a fresh install of 6.10 you will be ok, I had a problem upgrading 6.04 to 6.10
[05:33] <xsacha> i rarely spell words wrong and the red highlighting on legit words sucks
[05:34] <dmitri> xsacha: can you turn it off?
[05:34] <jdiwnab> I spell stuff wrong all the time
[05:34] <xsacha> yep, done
[05:35] <sts9> so is edgy going to be the kubuntu equivalent of debian unstable? or just another 6 month release?
[05:35] <BonBonTheJon> sts9: its another 6 month release
[05:35] <sts9> so in six months, it wont be so edgy anymore
[05:36] <Jucato> yes, but it's supported for 18 months after
[05:36] <BonBonTheJon> sts9: the next release will be Feisty Fawn
[05:36] <Jucato> Dapper is supported for 3 years
[05:36] <Jucato> 3 years on Desktop, 5 years on Server
[05:36] <dude___> jucato: help :)
[05:37] <Jucato> !release | sts9
[05:37] <ubotu> sts9: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[05:37] <Jucato> dude___: what?
[05:37] <astroO> hey guys, can someone help me set dualview with kubuntu please ?
[05:37] <BonBonTheJon> Jucato: do you know how to back up kontact
[05:37] <Dr_willis> dualview?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Ive heard of TwinView
[05:37] <Jucato> BonBonTheJon: er.. which part of Kontact?
[05:37] <astroO> nvida 7800 GT and 2 x 1280x1024 monitors
[05:37] <BonBonTheJon> Jucato: kmail
[05:37] <Jucato> ah no... :(
[05:37] <dude___> jucato: i want to upgrade
[05:37] <dude___> :)
[05:37] <astroO> no twinview is same view on both
[05:37] <astroO> dont want that
[05:38] <Jucato> BonBonTheJon: maybe just copy the ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail directory?
[05:38] <Jucato> !upgrade | dude___
[05:38] <ubotu> dude___: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:38] <Parkotron> astroO: Twinview does both.
[05:38] <BluesKaj> I hope the bugs in kde are fixed soon, cuz have no screensaver or network printer working since updating to kde 3.5.5
[05:38] <BonBonTheJon> Jucato: I'm just copying the whole home directory
[05:38] <Dr_willis> astroO,  twinview dosent have to clone the same output to both monitors.
[05:38] <dude___> jucato: im getting errors
[05:38] <Dr_willis> astroO,  it CAN clone.. but it dosent have to.
[05:38] <astroO> ah then my fault sorry "twin" means same sorry =)
[05:38] <Dr_willis> check out -->   nvidia-settings  --help
[05:38] <Jucato> BonBonTheJon: ooh.... just for kmail? probably just ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ and ~/.kde/share/config/kmail* ?
[05:38] <Jucato> dude___: what errors?
[05:39] <astroO> can you show me some good tutorial please ?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> i used the nvidia-settings tool to have it generate varouls X configs with twinview enabled.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> astroO,  also i read the nvidia docs.. and a gentoo howto or 2
[05:39] <Parkotron> astroO: http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html
[05:39] <Dr_willis> its a interesting 'topic' :)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> But i was able to get a working x config with that command.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> i then used as the basis for a tweaked config
[05:40] <astroO> im searching on the net since 24hours already, on debian i had it done in 2h
[05:40] <dude___> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28774/
[05:40] <astroO> thanx a lot ill read links
[05:40] <astroO> =)
[05:40] <luisf> Hey guys, I have a doubt about the new init system...
[05:40] <luisf> I want to know whitch file is similar to the old inittab in the initng???
[05:40] <Jucato> dude___: what are you trying to do?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> nvidia-xconfig  --help     May of been what i used...
[05:40] <dude___> jucato: gksu update-manager -c
[05:41] <Parkotron> luisf: Upstart has almost nothing in common with InitNG.
[05:41] <luisf> I want to turn off the text terminals that are opened by default!
[05:41] <Jucato> dude___: we dont' have update-manager on Kubuntu
[05:41] <Dr_willis> nvidia-xconfig  --twinview/--no-twinview
[05:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:41] <dude___> jucato: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <luisf> It opens 6 terminals and yhe X...
[05:41] <Jucato> dude___: did you try out the link that was given to you?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> saw that in the Ubuntu Hacks book
[05:41] <dude___> jucato: yes
[05:41] <astroO> Dr_willis:  nothing in nvidia xconfig help talking about twinview
[05:42] <astroO> hum
[05:42] <Dr_willis> nvidia-xconfig  -a  for extended help. :P
[05:42] <Jucato> dude___: so you installed Kubuntu over Ubuntu?
[05:42] <astroO> =)
[05:42] <Dr_willis> -A, --advanced-help
[05:42] <Dr_willis> whic seems SILLY way to do it.
[05:42] <dude___> jucatu: yes
[05:43] <astroO> ok youre right, i test it now =)
[05:43] <SCFan42> I'm having problems with video support in Edgy (AMD64), using the vesa driver on a laptop with no better driver support. It's usable with dapper (still installed), but the driver in Edgy causes slowdowns, such as when resizing windows or scrolling in Konqueror, to the point of making Firefox unusable. The card is some VIA Chrome9 thing.
[05:43] <SCFan42> Whoa that was longer than I thought
[05:44] <dude___> jucato: yes
[05:44] <Jucato> dude___: the command is: gksu "update-manager -c"
[05:44] <astroO> brb
[05:44] <Jucato> dude___: did you put the " " ??
[05:45] <SCFan42> I tried several times to tell X to use via instead of vesa in xorg.conf, but the via driver doesn't recognize my card and X doesn't load
[05:45] <dude___> jucato: no
[05:45] <dude___> :)
[05:45] <Jucato> dude___: well there you have it :P
[05:46] <xsacha> SCFan42: can you do: lspci -v
[05:46] <SCFan42> Yeah
[05:46] <xsacha> what do you see for 01:00.0 (might be last or second last in list)
[05:46] <astroO> wow im in twinview but its a bit streched
[05:46] <astroO> weird
[05:46] <astroO> i check xorg.conf
[05:47] <SCFan42> Unknown device 3230
[05:47] <xsacha> :S
[05:47] <SCFan42> After VIA Technologies, Inc.:
[05:47] <SCFan42> A bit too much to copy/paste
[05:47] <xsacha> lspci -n
[05:47] <BonBonTheJon> !pastebin
[05:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:47] <xsacha> it should only have numbers
[05:47] <SCFan42> 0000:01:00.0 0300: 1106:3230 (rev 01)
[05:47] <xsacha> lspci -n   should look like this: 01:00.0 0300: 1002:4150
[05:47] <xsacha> ok
[05:48] <xsacha> VIA Technologies Inc. Device:. VIA/S3G DeltaChrome IGP, all.
[05:49] <SCFan42> According to the specs from VIA's site for the motherboard chipset, it's called a VIA Chrome9 specifically
[05:49] <dude___> jucato: how about my KDE?
[05:50] <dude___> jucato: will it retain the old version
[05:50] <Jucato> dude___: if you upgrade (dist-upgrade, actually) to Edgy, KDE will automatically be updated as well
[05:50] <Jucato> dude___: everything you have will be upgraded to what version there is in Edgy
[05:50] <xsacha> it'll be S3 SCFan42
[05:50] <xsacha> S3G driver
[05:51] <dude___> jucato: ok, copy that, thx
[05:51] <azriel> anyone know why a kernel that was working before would start giving me vfs kernel panic unknown block after upgrading to edgy?
[05:52] <dude___> jucato: 2hrs remaining...hehehe
[05:52] <SCFan42> Alright, I'll give that a try. I'm on the laptop now so I'll to reboot from CD
[05:53] <Jucato> dude___: good luck! :)
[05:53] <dude___> jucato: tagay first heheheh
[05:53] <Jucato> dude___: sige ba! :)
[05:53] <jdiwnab> After this freakn' memtest, I'm not doing it again
[05:54] <dude___> jdiwnab: what happened
[05:54] <luisf> azriel: It must be a bug that happened upgrading the fstab!
[05:54] <jdiwnab> I'm still testing stuff as to why kubuntu isn't installing
[05:54] <dude___> jucato: i intalled 4 OS heheheh
[05:55] <luisf> azriel: You could use a livecd to restore your fstab.
[05:55] <dude___> jucato: and planning to add more : )
[05:55] <jdiwnab> what ones do you have?
[05:56] <Jucato> dude___: lol! tanghalian muna :D
[05:56] <Jucato> going away heheh
[05:56] <dude___> jucato: ok pare, tnx po ulit...
[05:56] <azriel> i can boot with the image that installed with the upgrade...just cant boot my old kernel
[05:56] <astroO> thanx you twinview is working great now =)
[05:56] <astroO> there is Metamod setting in xoorg.conf
[05:57] <astroO> it was wrong =)
[05:58] <luisf> azuriel: It hapens becuse after the upgrade the system install newer FS tools, and your old kernel doesn't support new versions of the File System!
[05:58] <azriel> ah, ok thx
[05:59] <luisf> the upgrade converts the partition type too!!!
[05:59] <azriel> other weird thing i get is when trying to run the ati driver install : ./ati-installer.sh: 176: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[06:00] <azriel> same copy of the file worked before
[06:01] <xsacha> azriel: it changes files after you use it
[06:01] <xsacha> did you use the uninstall?
[06:01] <azriel> no
[06:01] <xsacha> extract it from the file again
[06:01] <coreymon77> k
[06:02] <coreymon77> gnight everyone
[06:02] <coreymon77> time for me to go to sleep
[06:02] <jdiwnab> well, the memtest passed
[06:03] <xsacha> how long did memtest take?
[06:03] <jdiwnab> about 45 minutes
[06:03] <xsacha> :S
[06:03] <jdiwnab> I have lots of RAM
[06:03] <xsacha> takes me hours
[06:03] <jdiwnab> seemed like hours
[06:03] <xsacha> i dont have much ram :(
[06:03] <coreymon77> night guys
[06:04] <felixjet> !tar
[06:04] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:07] <astroO> which ftp client is as good as flashFXP on windows please ? I tried gftp but don't like bookmarking
[06:07] <astroO> any advice ?
[06:08] <astroO> and cant find iglooFTP for test
[06:08] <astroO> link on their site seems to be broken
[06:09] <Linux_Galore> time to grab kubuntu 6.10 I notice
[06:09] <Linux_Galore> any issues to far
[06:09] <Linux_Galore> ?
[06:11] <Linux_Galore> bugger no mirror for Australia but there is on for NZ, how dumb is that
[06:11] <Linux_Galore> one*
[06:11] <Mez> !tar
[06:11] <ubotu> tar-#kubuntu is Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:11] <Linux_Galore> NZ is like 1/4 the size of Australia
[06:12] <Mez> !tar
[06:12] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:12] <Mez> !zip
[06:13] <franz85> dns abattoir
[06:13] <Darth_Tux> hi  all, i just installed kubuntu on a apple ibook and was hoping i could get help with my wireless
[06:13] <nalioth> i suspect Darth_Tux needs to know how to enable his wireless hardware
[06:14] <Darth_Tux> nalioth: thanks ;
[06:14] <Darth_Tux> )
[06:14] <SCFan42> xsacha: no luck I'm afraid, tried just about any driver that looked like it might work
[06:15] <xsacha> SCFan42: you tried Driver "savage" ?
[06:15] <xsacha> :( that sucks, no drivers?
[06:16] <SCFan42> Nope, tried all three s3-related ones, fbdev, and a couple others
[06:16] <xsacha> oh they arent videodrivers though
[06:16] <xsacha> "savage" is the video driver
[06:16] <SCFan42> Well there was s3 and s3virge
[06:17] <xsacha> k
[06:17] <SCFan42> And savage, all three returned no device detected
[06:18] <christopher> hi. can somebody open a private chat with me and help me debug my speakers? I know they are not broken and they are well supported by linux (intel HD)
[06:20] <nalioth> !tell Darth_Tux about upgrade
[06:22] <myesterious> hi
[06:23] <mkquist> christopher - this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=comprehensive+sound
[06:23] <tahim> h
[06:23] <mkquist> !tell mkquist about upgrade
[06:24] <myesterious> Can i custom package install on Alternate cd ?
[06:26] <BonBonTheJon> myesterious: you probably want the server disc and then add packages
[06:26] <Jucato> (or the alternate install cd, and add packages)
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Hi all
[06:27] <BonBonTheJon> can you do a base install with the alt. install
[06:27] <Jucato> yes
[06:27] <BonBonTheJon> hi DaSkreech
[06:27] <myesterious> point of my using is Desktop but want to select package with myself.
[06:27] <Jucato> server/base/minimal install using Alternate Install CD
[06:27] <myesterious> like install KDE on Debian.
[06:28] <myesterious> ok thanks
[06:29] <felixjet> there is more software for mac than linux u___U
[06:31] <DaSkreech> BonBonTheJon: Hey hey
[06:31] <noir> hello I'm new to kubuntu and i'm trying to figure out what the kubuntu equvilant to Step 5  Navigate to the computer directory from within the places menu. Right-click the HDD partition(s) that you specified in the pmount.allow file and in the resulting menu select mount (you can also mount the disk by double-clicking its icon). Close the computer window then reopen it and the partition will be accessable. that is
[06:32] <DaSkreech> felixjet: Eh?
[06:32] <felixjet> DaSkreech:  uh?
[06:32] <noir> any insight would be appreciated ^,^
[06:32] <DaSkreech> The more than mac thing?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> noir: I don't get it what are you doing?
[06:32] <Mez> noir: open up konqueror and in the URL address goto media:/
[06:32] <felixjet> all the software im trying to use in linux only have version for win and mac
[06:32] <noir> I'm trying to mount another hd
[06:32] <felixjet> that is what i mean
[06:32] <noir> i've done everything but that last step there
[06:33] <Mez> that's pretty much the same as places->computer
[06:33] <DaSkreech> noir: repoening the window?
[06:33] <Jucato> felixjet: doesn't mean that there's more software available for Mac/XP.
[06:33] <DaSkreech> noir: Or the actuall mounting?
[06:33] <jorgegomez> please somebody can tell how can i install yahoo messenger?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: Press Alt+Spcae
[06:33] <noir> simply finding the places menu
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Space even
[06:33] <noir> would be a big help
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Type Kop then press enter
[06:34] <jorgegomez> am tried kopete but dosnt reconogize my yahoo accounto
[06:34] <DaSkreech> noir: Ahh
[06:34] <DaSkreech> noir: It's the second button on teh kicker
[06:34] <DaSkreech> beside teh K
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Think it's a Computer or some such
[06:34] <Jucato> it's called System Menu
[06:34] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: What does it do?
[06:34] <noir> oh lol thanks ^.^
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Still think it needs a hot key
[06:35] <Jucato> :)
[06:35] <DaSkreech> I treat my Mouse like it has antrhrax infected with leprosy
[06:36] <DaSkreech> felixjet: Astute :)
[06:36] <jorgegomez> am triying
[06:36] <mariano_> do you guys think that installing aigxl will slow my system down given that I am running the integrated graphics card intel 855GM
[06:36] <felixjet> more than half hour compiling it
[06:36] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: What error does it give you?
[06:36] <jorgegomez> ask for my pass
[06:36] <jorgegomez> but
[06:37] <DaSkreech> mariano_: No. but ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:37] <jorgegomez> doesnt reconognize
[06:37] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: are you sure it's Yahoo and not the KDe wallet?
[06:37] <jorgegomez> am not sure
[06:37] <jorgegomez> this my first day in ubuntu
[06:38] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: First of all welcome
[06:38] <jorgegomez> thanks
[06:38] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: The KDE wallet comes up anytime a password is requested
[06:38] <Snake> Hey guys im looking for SDL_Pango, what pacakge would have that?
[06:38] <DaSkreech>  do you see the Yahoo face on teh password prompt box?
[06:38] <jorgegomez> am alredy find hot but yahoo i cant
[06:38] <jorgegomez> ok
[06:39] <DaSkreech> And it should only have one entry box
[06:39] <Snake> no one :'(
[06:39] <jorgegomez> and wallet i need to put my yahoo pass?
[06:39] <DaSkreech> not two or three
[06:39] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: No just cancel it
[06:39] <jorgegomez> oh
[06:39] <DaSkreech> then the Yahoo password one will come up
[06:39] <DaSkreech> If you get on Yahoo I'll explain that if you like
[06:39] <jorgegomez> please
[06:40] <Snake> ugh this is bullshit.
[06:40] <jorgegomez> or if i tell you what i find in my screen
[06:40] <DaSkreech> !language
[06:40] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:40] <DaSkreech> ok You cancelled the wallet?
[06:40] <jorgegomez> am doing applications/internet/
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Right
[06:41] <jorgegomez> kopete/ appear the kopete window
[06:41] <DaSkreech> Right
[06:41] <jorgegomez> am gone settings
[06:42] <jorgegomez> configure
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Right
[06:42] <jorgegomez> accounts
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Yup
[06:42] <DaSkreech> And your yahoo account is there?
[06:43] <jorgegomez> am just write again
[06:43] <jorgegomez> and
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Is your yahoo account already there when you go to accounts?
[06:43] <jorgegomez> i need to put my pass
[06:43] <DaSkreech> or you are redoing it?
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Hold on
[06:43] <jorgegomez> but
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Is your yahoo account already there when you go to accounts?
[06:43] <jorgegomez> dosnt appear my add friends
[06:44] <motorhead> hallo
[06:44] <felixjet> !de
[06:44] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:44] <Motorhead> woow
[06:44] <Motorhead> wow
[06:44] <Motorhead> *
[06:44] <jdiwnab> cool
[06:44] <Motorhead> ich spreche nicht Deutsch.
[06:44] <Jucato> Motorhead: didn't come in with "hai" this time?
[06:45] <Motorhead> omg, i forgot
[06:45] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: hold up. When you go to accounts is your Yahoo ID there already?
[06:45] <Motorhead> lol
[06:45] <jorgegomez> yes
[06:45] <Jucato> heh
[06:45] <jorgegomez> and i insert my pass
[06:45] <Motorhead> :P
[06:45] <jorgegomez> its ok?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> In the accoutns window?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Oh You clicked on modify?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> and where it said save password you put your password tehre?
[06:46] <jorgegomez> mmmmmmm
[06:46] <Motorhead> so whats a good ftp server?? (easy to install :P)
[06:46] <Motorhead> ??
[06:46] <jorgegomez> and tellme finish
[06:47] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: Ok fine
[06:47] <jorgegomez> ok
[06:47] <jorgegomez> now is requiring my pass
[06:47] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: now if you ok out to the Kopete window there should a Yahoo icon in the bottom right corner of Kopete
[06:48] <jorgegomez> yes is there
[06:48] <DaSkreech> does it have two spaces for you to type in?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> your password?
[06:49] <jorgegomez> appear a window
[06:49] <jorgegomez> and am inserted my pass but said
[06:49] <jdiwnab> Anyone with an idea why the kubuntu install freezes yet?
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Alternative?
[06:50] <jorgegomez> could not log into the yahoo service
[06:50] <jorgegomez> username is invalid?
[06:50] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: Which Kubuntu is this? 6.10 or 6.06 ?
[06:50] <jorgegomez> well am not sure
[06:51] <jorgegomez> how can i know that
[06:51] <bLaZeD> jorgegomez, the filename should sya
[06:52] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: from a konsole type cat /etc/issue
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Or yeah if you burnt the CD yourself the file you burnt it from shoudl say
[06:52] <jorgegomez> ok let do it
[06:52] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: Do you know if it was dapper or edgy?
[06:52] <jorgegomez> no
[06:52] <DaSkreech> OK
[06:53] <jorgegomez> let use the console
[06:53] <DaSkreech> try the cat /etc/issue
[06:53] <jorgegomez> ok
[06:54] <jorgegomez> said
[06:54] <jorgegomez> no such file or directory
[06:55] <Jucato> how do I permanently change the DNS? whenever I edit /etc/resolve.conf (or in System Settings), it reverts to the original DNS after a reboot
 said no such file or directory
[06:57] <craig_> Hello all, I haven't been to this services before. Have been using Kubuntu for a while but got into some trouble with upgrade to Edgy
[06:57] <jdiwnab> !upgrade
[06:57] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:58] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: it has to be there
[06:58] <jorgegomez> is ubuntu 6.06
[06:58] <momal> http://element14.wordpress.com/2006/10/27/ubuntu-edgy-upgrades-a-disaster-for-many/ <--- have people seen that? hmm seems like just a case of bad luck and tries to take it all out on edgy
[06:58] <jorgegomez> yes am here
[06:58] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: Ah Ok
[06:58] <jorgegomez> my Amigo
[06:58] <craig_> I did that, but I think it has something to do with my source list.
[06:58] <craig_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:58] <craig_>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Maybe your kopete needs to be updated :)
[06:58] <jorgegomez> ok how can i do that
[06:59] <DaSkreech> in kopete go Help -> about Kopete
[06:59] <jorgegomez> ok
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Tell me what version it is
[06:59] <jorgegomez> am there
[06:59] <jorgegomez> kopete KDE
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Kopete 0.10.2?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> 0.11.1?
[07:00] <jorgegomez> DUNCAN MAC-VICAR PRATT
[07:00] <DaSkreech> at the very top
[07:00] <jorgegomez> YES
[07:00] <jorgegomez> 0.11.1
[07:00] <DaSkreech> no caps please
[07:00] <jorgegomez> you right
[07:01] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Ok
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Press alt+space
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Oh wait
[07:01] <Jucato> ??
[07:01] <jorgegomez> ok
[07:01] <DaSkreech>  in the bottom right corner do you see a Red triangle with a ! in the center?
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Of the screen not the bottom right of Kopete :)
[07:02] <jorgegomez> let me see
[07:02] <DaSkreech> beside the time
[07:03] <jorgegomez> no
[07:03] <BeepAU> could i get a little help? i'm new to kubuntu, but i've used ubuntu for a few months. i'm trying to get support for all the restricted formats, but apt-get tells me libxine-extracodecs isn't there. what should i install instead?
[07:03] <jorgegomez> just the time and the power off
[07:04] <DaSkreech> !multiverse > BeepAU
[07:04] <BeepAU> i've enabled multiverse
[07:04] <DaSkreech> and reloaded?
[07:05] <DaSkreech> BeepAU: How did you enable it by the way?
[07:05] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: hmm ok
[07:05] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: from a konsole type this
[07:05] <BeepAU> DaSkreech -- through the adept manager
[07:05] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:05] <jorgegomez> ok how i type
[07:05] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: It should ask you for your password
[07:06] <DaSkreech> BeepAU: did you type in multiverse yourself?
[07:06] <jorgegomez> ok let my try
[07:06] <BeepAU> DaSkreech -- i copied and pasted it from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:06] <BeepAU> DaSkreech -- does it matter if i actually type it myself?
[07:07] <DaSkreech> BeepAU: Most people who don't type it themselves just enabled multiverse for backports
[07:07] <DaSkreech> Which doesn't help
[07:07] <Jucato> BeepAU: you have to type in "multiverse"
[07:07] <Jucato> I'm guessing you copied the repository for dapper-commercial
[07:07] <DaSkreech> yeah Me too
[07:07] <BeepAU> i don't believe so
[07:07] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:07] <Jucato> ok. :)
[07:08] <BeepAU> the components are 'universe multiverse'
[07:08] <christopher> I've followed every guide out there, I REALLY need some personalized sound advice for my speakers. They work but are really staticy.
[07:08] <Jucato> BeepAU: yep that one
[07:08] <DaSkreech> BeepAU: can you copy the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[07:08] <DaSkreech> !pastebin > BeepAU
[07:08] <jorgegomez> is downloading the upgrades
[07:08] <kululak> Hi
[07:08] <Jucato> BeepAU: but you shouldn't have to type "universe" anymore because it's already there
[07:08] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: Alright
[07:08] <Jucato> you just have to add "multiverse" at the end.
[07:08] <kululak> I'm so new with kubumtu
[07:08] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: While we wait. Anything else you wanted to  know or get explained?
[07:09] <jorgegomez> is aking me if i want to continue <DaSkreech> >?
[07:09] <DaSkreech> say yes
[07:09] <craig_> Ubotu: I was following those instructions. It was when I got to the # apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal that it went wrong. Error: kubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed
[07:09] <DaSkreech> kululak: Welcome
[07:09] <kululak> thanks alot
[07:09] <kululak> its must be fun
[07:09] <teledyn> anyone know why my dhclient is making about 20 requests per minute?
[07:09] <Jucato> craig_: try install xorg (sudo apt-get install xorg)
[07:09] <kululak> gtg bye
[07:09] <DaSkreech> teledyn: It needs to grow up and get a job?
[07:09] <Jucato> craig_: ubotu is a bot
[07:09] <DaSkreech> kululak: Bye
[07:10] <Jucato> that was strange...
[07:10] <DaSkreech> why?
[07:10] <Jucato> "hi" -> "i'm new to kubuntu
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Yeah.
[07:10] <Jucato> "that must be fun" - "thanks a lot" - "bye"
[07:10] <Jucato> :D
[07:11] <BeepAU> whats the 'notepad' type file for kubuntu?
[07:11] <teledyn> is it troll night tonight?
[07:11] <jorgegomez> now appear this
[07:11] <jorgegomez> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:11] <jorgegomez> jorgegomez@jorgegomez:~$
[07:11] <Jucato> BeepAU: Kate is the program
[07:11] <Jucato> Notepad (XP) = Kate (Kubuntu/KDE)
[07:11] <DaSkreech> If you had just come from the world of Windows and no IRC and suddenly found out they have a button that links you to a place called Kubuntu with people all under the title of "chat" youd be babbling as well
[07:12] <DaSkreech> BeepAU: You mean the program?
[07:12] <BeepAU> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28787/
[07:12] <Jucato> DaSkreech: heheh
[07:12] <BeepAU> that's the pastebin you wanted
[07:12] <craig_> I've tried sudo apt-get upgrade xorg. Which supposedly worked, but I was still unable to complete the kubuntu desktop install. Do I still need to run the xorg install?
[07:12] <Jucato> BeepAU: you don't have the correct "multiverse"
[07:12] <DaSkreech> Jucato: can you help jorgegomez? I have to go over <------ here and do something
[07:12] <ubuntu_> Hello room
[07:12] <jorgegomez> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:12] <jorgegomez> jorgegomez@jorgegomez:~$
[07:13] <ubuntu_> Has anyone else had problems with Kubuntu and installing the nividia drivers?
[07:13] <Jucato> DaSkreech: err.. no... I would have helped him earlier if I could.. :(
[07:13] <DaSkreech> it's an apt problem right now :)
[07:13] <BeepAU> Jucato -- what do i change?
 thank you for all
[07:13] <Jucato> craig_: I think so
[07:13] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: sure
[07:13] <teledyn> DaSkreech: that explains why you're a troll?
[07:13] <DaSkreech> teledyn: Man this is like the third time  today someone thinks I'm a troll
[07:13] <Jucato> BeepAU: you're supposed to add "multiverse"  to this line "deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"
[07:14] <DaSkreech> I'm Goblin with orc blood
[07:14] <DaSkreech>  good grief
[07:14] <Jucato> DaSkreech isn't a troll. he's a full-blooded gnome
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Gnomes are evil
[07:14] <Jucato> hehe
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Goblin's are just mischeivious :)
[07:14] <Jucato> "evil's a foot"
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Jucato: ahahahaha
[07:14] <DaSkreech> teledyn: Talk to you when I get back
[07:15] <craig_> Ok I'll try the install.
[07:15] <teledyn> there's the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for non-ubuntu-related stuff
[07:15] <ubuntu_> After I installed the nividia drivers with kubuntu and rebooted I was sent to a CLI login, I was unable to load the GUI.  Any ideas?
[07:15] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: try sudo apt-get install kopete
[07:15] <Jucato> teledyn: and #kubuntu-offtopic as well
[07:15] <Jucato> ubuntu_: you installed nvidia-glx?
[07:16] <ubuntu_> Yes Jucato
[07:16] <ubuntu_> Following the ubuntuguide.org instructions.
[07:16] <SCFan42> xsacha: I think I found something. In Edgy universe is a unichrome driver for xorg, and according to their site it should support my K8M890
[07:16] <craig_> I got the following error:
[07:16] <craig_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:16] <craig_>   xorg: Depends: xbase-clients (>= 1:1.0.1-1) but it is not going to be installed
[07:16] <craig_>         Depends: xutils (>= 1:1.0.1-1) but it is not going to be installed
[07:16] <Jucato> ubuntu_: please check if you have the correct linux-restricted-modules installed for your kernel
[07:17] <Jucato> craig_: by any chance, do you have XGL/Compiz installed?
[07:17] <xsacha> ok
[07:17] <craig_> I do.
[07:17] <ubuntu_> I added the sources.list that the guide suggested and ran an apt-get update.
[07:17] <SCFan42> Though it would be difficult to test without going all in and installing edgy
[07:17] <Jucato> ubuntu_: no you have to install it directly most of the time
[07:17] <craig_> It was being uninstalled as part of the upgrade
[07:17] <BeepAU> Jucato -- it's working now. thankyou.
[07:18] <ubuntu_> Huh.  6.10 is certainly giving me more troubles then 6/06 did.
[07:18] <Jucato> craig_: ah that seems to be the root cause of most upgrade problems with X...
[07:18] <ubuntu_> 6.06 rather
[07:18] <Jucato> ubuntu_: it's the same in Dapper as in Edgy. you need to have linux-restricted-modules installed for the drivers to work
[07:18] <craig_> Woudln't surprise me
[07:19] <ubuntu_> I guess I'm not sure what you mean then.  Is that not installed when I add all those repos and upgrade?
[07:19] <Jucato> ubuntu_: no.
[07:19] <Jucato> ubuntu_: can you give the link to that guide that you are using?
[07:19] <craig_> How do I fix the Compiz thing?
[07:19] <ubuntu_> www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:19] <SCFan42> xsacha: I'll try to install and test the package on the livecd, hopefully that'll work. If not, I'll probably stick with 6.06 for a while. Either way, thanks for helping
[07:20] <xsacha> ok
[07:20] <Jucato> ubuntu_: ok hold on while I check
[07:20] <ubuntu_> thank you
[07:20] <Jucato> ubuntu_: btw, did you upgrade to Edgy? or is this a fresh install?
[07:21] <Jucato> ubuntu_: sorry to say, that guide for NVIDIA is incomplete
[07:21] <ubuntu_> Yeah this is a fresh install
[07:21] <Jucato> ubuntu_: ah then I'm presuming that you are using the -generic kernel?
[07:21] <ubuntu_> I want to come back to linux now that there is hope the sound problem I had is fixed.
[07:22] <ubuntu_> I don't know.  I downloaded the iso, burned it, booted to it and ran install.  lol  Sorry I'm a noob.
[07:22] <Jucato> ubuntu_: could you please type "uname -r" in Konsole and tell me the output?
[07:23] <ubuntu_> 2.16.17-10
[07:23] <ubuntu_> -generic
[07:23] <DaSkreech> teledyn: ok why am I a troll?
[07:24] <Jucato> ok here's what you do. "sudo apt-get install linux-generic". this will install restricted modules and headers, etc. installing "linux-generic" will make sure that if there's an upgrade for the kernel, all (kernel, restricted modules, headers) will be upgraded too
[07:24] <Jucato> ubuntu_: ^^^
[07:24] <teledyn> DaSkreech: you're filling the channel with mindless pranter which annoys people who are using it for its intended purpose
[07:25] <teledyn> DaSkreech: join #kubuntu-offtopic if you just want the general chat please
[07:25] <Jucato> teledyn: DaSkreech has been helping in here for the past minutes.
[07:25] <ubuntu_> ok.  Well I'm on the livecd now because my gui crashed after my reboot.  I will try doing that.
[07:25] <Jucato> ubuntu_: after you do that
[07:26] <Jucato> ubuntu_: do "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[07:26] <teledyn> ok i only saw the comment he made to me
[07:26] <ubuntu_> before editing my sources or anything?
[07:27] <unix_infidel> hmm, when i do....  read $variable ; echo $variable
[07:27] <unix_infidel> i get a blank line....what am i missing?
[07:27] <DaSkreech> So statements like I'm filling the chan based off the one statement you saw makes ME a troll?
[07:27] <Jucato> ubuntu_: no. after installing "linux-generic", do the nvidia-xconfig again.
[07:27] <teledyn> "<DaSkreech> teledyn: It needs to grow up and get a job?"
[07:27] <Jucato> teledyn: and for the record, I think he was trying to make a joke
[07:27] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: read variable ; echo $variable
[07:28] <ubuntu_> ok just to clarify, I do all of this without editing my fresh installed sources.list?
[07:28] <DaSkreech> teledyn: Lol sorry :)
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Has that been fixed yet?
[07:28] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: LOL, i cant beleive i missed that.
[07:28] <teledyn> excuse me if i think it was in poor taste
[07:28] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: thanks.
[07:28] <ArrenLex> How well does apt-get dist-upgrade work for kubuntu?
[07:28] <Jucato> ubuntu_: um yes, I think. just double check that you have the "restricted" repositories enabled
[07:28] <Jucato> !upgrade | ArrenLex
[07:28] <ubotu> ArrenLex: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:29] <DaSkreech> teledyn: understandable. I won't make remarks like that to you again :)
[07:29] <ubuntu_> Ok,  Thank you for your time and help.
[07:29] <DaSkreech> ArrenLex: depends on what you are upgrading from/to
[07:29] <ubuntu_> Knowing my luck I'll be back.  lol
[07:29] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: Please do come back
[07:29] <Jucato> ubuntu_: yes do come back if you get it to work
[07:30] <DaSkreech> teledyn: has it been fixed yet?
[07:30] <Jucato> so that we'll know :)
[07:30] <ArrenLex> Jucato: Thank you. This doesn't really apply to me, though, since I don't have the kubuntu-desktop (I have a very customised installation of only the things I need). I mean, generally, does running apt-get dist-upgrade cause any major problems?
[07:30] <ubuntu_> Well I will come back once my install is done.  It's still installing.
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Jucato: btw the tags work again now
[07:30] <Jucato> DaSkreech: debtags?
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Jucato: yup
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Guess playing with them in a mid development distro doesn't make sense
[07:30] <Jucato> ArrenLex: ah. it might or might not cause problems. I think there's no other way to find out than to try... :(
[07:31] <craig_> So, regarding my xorg problem how do I sort out the Compiz problem?
[07:31] <ubuntu_> Curious, what is up with the restricted, unrestricted modules....etc.... I mean it sounds like one is legal and one is not.
[07:31] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: Good eye :)
[07:31] <DaSkreech> the restricted ones are illegal
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Jucato: Okay. Thank you.
[07:31] <Jucato> DaSkreech: lol
[07:31] <ubuntu_> Legal for what?
[07:31] <Jucato> ubuntu_: no don't believe him :)
[07:32] <Jucato> !components | ubuntu_
[07:32] <ubotu> ubuntu_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:32] <DaSkreech> What? It's true :)
[07:32] <Jucato> err not that
[07:32] <Jucato> ubuntu_: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[07:32] <ubuntu_> I'm sorry if I'm asking a obvious question, I just don't understand the naming schemes.
[07:32] <notech> does kubuntu have frozen bubble?
[07:32] <Jucato> DaSkreech: restricted doesn't contain "illegal" stuff
[07:32] <DaSkreech> read the URl Jucato just gave you
[07:32] <Jucato> notech: not installed by default
[07:32] <DaSkreech> notech: I think so though they have forked it to pengupop I think
[07:32] <notech> Jucato: but is it available?
[07:32] <DaSkreech> Jucato: by GPL standards it's illeagal
[07:32] <Jucato> !frozen-bubble
[07:32] <ubotu> frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 356 kB
[07:33] <Jucato> notech: ^^^^^
[07:33] <notech> thanks
[07:33] <Jucato> DaSkreech: no. bye GPL standards, it's non-free. but not illegal
[07:33] <DaSkreech> notech: It is we burn atl east 2% of a month playing it at work
[07:33] <Jucato> non-free != illegal
[07:33] <Jucato> of course, by RMS standards, they are immoral. :P
[07:33] <DaSkreech> bah non-free should be illegal as long as it's not absolutlely needed for it to be hidden
[07:34] <DaSkreech> Jucato: And no I don't have vrms installed :)
[07:34] <notech> DaSkreech: heh, it is a good game. thanks.
[07:34] <Jucato> DaSkreech: you are including a lot of stuff in multiverse as illegal :P
[07:34] <DaSkreech> Ummmm ... yeah I am :-p
[07:34] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[07:35] <Jucato> DaSkreech: and that would include your beloved Screekast
[07:35] <DaSkreech> newbie001: related to newbie007?
[07:35] <newbie001> hello?
[07:35] <Jucato> Screenkast*
[07:35] <newbie001> haha
[07:35] <newbie001> no...
[07:35] <DaSkreech> Damn.
[07:35] <newbie001> is just a name I invented
[07:35] <newbie001> :D
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Screekast should use .theora :-P
[07:36] <newbie001> Is there anyone here who can help me with some problems in an upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[07:36] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[07:36] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:36] <Nexus> I am currently in the process of setting up my dial up modem on Kubuntu and am having some problems. I was wondering if I could get a bit of help.
[07:36] <DaSkreech> O\another job well done
[07:36] <Nexus> Let me explain
[07:36] <Nexus> I have run through the scanModem.gz and have my text files but they aren't making a lot of sense to me.
[07:37] <DaSkreech> !upgrade > newbie001
[07:37] <newbie001> here I am again... my X colapsed after I clicked the link
[07:37] <Nexus> I have been looking though the ModemData.txt file and this is what I have:
[07:37] <Nexus>  PCI slot      PCI ID   SubsystemID  Name
[07:37] <Nexus>  ----------   ---------  ---------   --------------
[07:37] <Nexus> 0000:00:1b.0  8086:27d8  1028:01d7  0403: Intel Corporation 82801G
[07:37] <Jucato> !pastebin | Nexus
[07:37] <ubotu> Nexus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:37] <DaSkreech> !paste > Nexus
[07:37] <newbie001> (that's part of the problem :D )
[07:37] <DaSkreech> newbie001: :)
[07:38] <Nexus> ah sorry guys. I didn't know how long my post had to be to use pastebin
[07:39] <Jucato> more than 2 lines paste -> pastebin :)
[07:39] <newbie001> I don't blame ubutu for the problems... I was asking for it (I'm using nvidia proprietary drivers and xephyr to multiseat)
[07:39] <ArrenLex> I get lots of perl locale errors. How do I shut it up again? I've forgotten.
[07:39] <Nexus> ah cheers Jucato
[07:40] <Jucato> :)
[07:40] <Jucato> unfortunately, I don't know how to help you Nexus...
[07:40] <antithesis> can someone help me with this error from adept: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[07:40] <NDPTAL85> Is Ubuntu working on a GUI way of doing distro upgrades?
[07:40] <Jucato> NDPTAL85: I think Ubuntu has. Kubuntu, on the other hand, needs some work
[07:40] <newbie001> DaSkreech: last thing I did was apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[07:41] <Jucato> antithesis: what are you trying to do?
[07:41] <Nexus> !pastebin
[07:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:41] <antithesis> install ndiswrapper
[07:41] <selacey> Ahhhhhh, hello all!
[07:41] <DaSkreech> NDPTAL85: Adept works
[07:41] <NDPTAL85> You know I hadn't thought of that
[07:41] <Jucato> DaSkreech: not for doing dist-upgrades, at least not for Edgy...
[07:42] <NDPTAL85> I'm currently using the console method right now anyway
[07:42] <NDPTAL85> Ahh ok
[07:42] <DaSkreech> I did it from breezy to dapper
[07:42] <NDPTAL85> And I used aptitude where I could instead of apt
[07:42] <antithesis> any ideas?
[07:42] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I don't think it's recommended for Dapper to Edgy
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Ok
[07:42] <Jucato> antithesis: you could try installing using apt-get so that you could see what's going on
[07:42] <antithesis> i also get this error on update:
[07:42] <antithesis> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:42] <antithesis> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:42] <newbie001> I used adept
[07:43] <Linux_Galore> how do you transfer mp3's to your ipod in kubuntu, yes konqueror pops up but then what
[07:43] <Jucato> !adpet crash fix
[07:43] <Nexus> Okay here we go. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28795/ This is my modemdata.txt file where do I go from here
[07:43] <DaSkreech> Linux_Galore: try amarok
[07:43] <antithesis> what do i do?
[07:43] <Jucato> !adpet crash fix
[07:44] <Jucato> ubotu: ping
[07:44] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[07:44] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: amarok seems to do podcasts but wont work for my mp3's it spits out an error
[07:44] <antithesis> where, how?
[07:44] <MistaED> Linux_Galore: don't quote me on this, but i think konqueror supports drag n' drop of music for ipods if you access them via ipod://
[07:44] <Jucato> !adept crash fix
[07:44] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[07:44] <Jucato> antithesis: ^^^^^^^^^
[07:44] <Jucato> antithesis: then try installing using apt-get to see error messages
[07:44] <Linux_Galore> MistaED: drag and drop then were though
[07:44] <Jucato> I don't think there's an ipod:/ kioslave yet
[07:45] <Linux_Galore> yeah there is a kio slave for the ipod Im using it
[07:45] <Jucato> ah nice
[07:45] <Linux_Galore> just havent got a clue how to use it
[07:45] <antithesis> antithesis@antithesis01:~$ sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-utils
[07:45] <antithesis> E: Invalid operation ndiswrapper-utils
[07:45] <Jucato> antithesis: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[07:46] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: drag your mp3's from your folder in Kubuntu to the ipod:/ window?
[07:46] <Jucato> supposedly that's how kioslaves make things easier
[07:46] <antithesis> recognize that jucato
[07:47] <newbie001> I have a question conserning my recent upgrade. I can't boot using the 686/generic kernels... is anyone aware of that problem?
[07:47] <fildo> anyone here have knowledge on psybnc
[07:48] <antithesis> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:48] <antithesis>   ndiswrapper-utils: Depends: ndiswrapper-utils-1.1 but it is not installable
[07:48] <antithesis> E: Broken packages
[07:48] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: yeah Ive done that but nothing shows up
[07:48] <Linux_Galore> on the ipod
[07:48] <Nexus> I have been trying to getup my dial up modem but I don't know where to go from here. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28795/ This is my modemdata.txt file where do I go from here?
[07:48] <Jucato> hm...
[07:49] <joshua__> Ok, ubuntu here.
[07:49] <joshua__> I'm back up and running.  However I must have copied that command down wrong.
[07:49] <Jucato> what command?
[07:49] <antithesis> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:49] <antithesis>   ndiswrapper-utils: Depends: ndiswrapper-utils-1.1 but it is not installable
[07:49] <antithesis> E: Broken packages
[07:49] <antithesis> soirry
[07:49] <antithesis> sorry*
[07:50] <Jucato> !pastebin | antithesis
[07:50] <ubotu> antithesis: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:50] <joshua__> the install restricted comand
[07:50] <antithesis> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:50] <antithesis>   ndiswrapper-utils: Depends: ndiswrapper-utils-1.1 but it is not installable
[07:50] <antithesis> E: Broken packages
[07:50] <joshua__> command
[07:50] <antithesis> damn it
[07:50] <Jucato> joshua__: "sudo apt-get install linux-generic" ?
[07:50] <antithesis> yes
[07:51] <joshua__> Yeah.  It says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove etc...
[07:51] <Jucato> antithesis: how about trying to install ndiswrapper-utils-1.1 ?
[07:51] <Jucato> joshua__: so what are you using right now?
[07:51] <Jucato> still the live cd?
[07:51] <joshua__> kubuntu installed on the HD
[07:51] <Jucato> ah... so you got the nvidia driver working?
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Nexus: Were you following some walk through?
[07:52] <bLaZeD> hmm ever seince i installed edgy my mouse has been actin real weird...it somtimes wont go at sertain angles
[07:52] <joshua__> Haven't tried yet, thought you said to get that command going first.
[07:52] <bLaZeD> any way i ccan trouble shoot this?
[07:52] <antithesis> samw
[07:52] <joshua__> Still running, 2.6.17-10-generic
[07:52] <antithesis> same*
[07:52] <Jucato> joshua__: yes. but I thought you couldn't boot into Kubuntu?
[07:52] <bLaZeD> ....ive neer had any probs with my mouse and *ubuntu b4
[07:52] <newbie001> so... nobody ever heard of my problem? I reported a bug about it https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/68548
[07:52] <joshua__> Yeah I had to reinstall it
[07:53] <joshua__> So now it's reinstalled, factory defaults
[07:53] <flaccid> !edgy > flaccid
[07:53] <Jucato> joshua__: aah now you're talking...
[07:53] <antithesis> same problem Jucato
[07:53] <Nexus> DaSkreech, I am going by the information given to me in the KDE help center
[07:53] <flaccid> so edgy stable hehe
[07:53] <Jucato> joshua__: ok, first, check your sources.list. make sure that the "main" and "restricted" repositories are enabled
[07:53] <Jucato> flaccid: Edgy is stable as an edgy release can be :P
[07:54] <antithesis> think its my repositories
[07:54] <antithesis> ?
[07:54] <q_colon> what does the k in kubuntu stand for?
[07:54] <flaccid> hehe
[07:54] <h_colon> krap
[07:54] <newbie001> joshua__: you mean you had the same problem than me?
[07:54] <flaccid> kde
[07:54] <joshua__> Yes they are.  Universe, backports and security arent
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Nexus: Ok what's next?
[07:54] <q_colon> LOL
[07:54] <flaccid> is there any kubuntu edgy upgrade web pages?
[07:55] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[07:55] <flaccid> ie. not using gtk
[07:55] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:55] <joshua__> newbie, I'm having nvidia problems.  These folks are helping me out.
[07:55] <Jucato> joshua__: hm... could you pastebin your sources.list ?
[07:55] <flaccid> ah
[07:55] <q_colon> ahh you guys suck :P
[07:55] <joshua__> pastebin?
[07:55] <h_colon> yeah
[07:55] <Nexus> DaSkreech, I then used scanModem.gz and got several unzipped files
[07:55] <Linux_Galore> aaah got it bit of a weird trick to it
[07:55] <Jucato> !pastebin | joshua__
[07:55] <ubotu> joshua__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:55] <DaSkreech> Nexus: ok
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Jucato: did I miss a memo?
[07:56] <h_colon> thank god for ubuntu, helps load balance the wannabees off of #debian!!
[07:56] <Nexus> I am not sure where to got from there though. Here is the modemData.txt file. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28795/
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Yeah I'm looking at it
[07:56] <newbie001> joshua__: ok..
[07:56] <antithesis> argggggggg
[07:56] <antithesis> this is so frustrating
[07:56] <ubuntu_> Hi..
[07:56] <joshua__> ok done
[07:56] <Jucato> antithesis: sorry, not really familiar with ndiswrapper stuff
[07:56] <Jucato> joshua__: the URL?
[07:56] <DaSkreech> q_colon: We still suck
[07:56] <q_colon> :P
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Nexus: I think that it wants to be mailed somewhere
[07:57] <joshua__> ahh I understand now....lol sorry.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28797/
[07:57] <Jucato> DaSkreech: let's just make it a policy not to feed trolls here :)
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Good point
[07:57] <h_colon> DaSkreech: =O (__|__)
[07:57] <Jucato> joshua__: ah now I see... you have to disable the cdrom repository for this to work
[07:57] <Nexus> DaSkreech: That was my first thought but it goes through and list other things. So I should still send it off
[07:57] <joshua__> I hate trolls.  I'm a level 9 Dwarf Priest myself.  :-p
[07:57] <DaSkreech>  When did we move from !factdio > user to !factiod | user ?
[07:58] <Jucato> DaSkreech: two different commands :)
[07:58] <newbie001> what are the "held-back" packages?
[07:58] <h_colon> kubuntu has below average smp support
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Shaman Tauren
[07:58] <Jucato> > will give the info in a PM, | will shout it out loud in here
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I know but one is chan clutter
[07:58] <joshua__> Getting WoW to work on kubuntu is next.
[07:58] <joshua__> I read it's pretty easy...so I hope it is
[07:58] <DaSkreech> h_colon: Sure hope you installed a smp kernel
[07:59] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I like | better coz everyone gets to see that they were told. they couldn't deny not knowing about it :)
[07:59] <Jucato> joshua__: did you get what I said?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> Fair enough
[07:59] <joshua__> oh
[07:59] <joshua__> sorry missed it.  I will commet that line out
[07:59] <Jucato> tsk tsk :)
[07:59] <joshua__> done
[08:00] <Jucato> joshua__: save, then sudo apt-get update
[08:00] <Jucato> then sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[08:00] <joshua__> done
[08:00] <Jucato> presuming that's the kernel that you are using?
[08:00] <DaSkreech> Nexus: Good idea. Linmodems is of great interest so they would likely be the main circle for help in any case
[08:00] <joshua__> same result
[08:00] <joshua__> nothing happens.
[08:01] <Jucato> newbie001: sorry for the late reply: "held back" packages are packages that could not be upgraded or installed for some reasons
[08:01] <Nexus> cheers DaSkreech
[08:01] <Jucato> joshua__: did you "sudo apt-get update" first?
[08:01] <joshua__> yes
[08:01] <newbie001> ok...
[08:01] <newbie001> Jucato: Ok... don't worry... I noticed I'm not the only one having trouble with the upgrade
[08:01] <Jucato> hmm.. that's so impossible... :(
[08:02] <Jucato> newbie001: take comfort in the fact that you really aren't the only one :)
[08:02] <joshua__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28798/
[08:02] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Strange since we can't take comfort in that :)
[08:02] <newbie001> Jucato: at this moment I'm runing Enlightment (by the way... It's not bad at all) since my kde won't work
[08:02] <q_colon> I'm interested in migrating my office off of Windows. Should I do it?
[08:02] <h_colon> Open source software has poorer levels of QA than proprietary solutions.
[08:03] <Jucato> joshua__: hm... can you "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic"?
[08:03] <hrp2171> q_colon: sure, why not?
[08:03] <abattoir> h_colon: that's not always true
[08:03] <abattoir> hey Jucato :)
[08:03] <Jucato> hi abattoir!!! :)
[08:03] <joshua__> linux-restricted-modules-generic is already the newest version.
[08:03] <abattoir> q_colon: depends on your needs, and what you work on, at your office
[08:04] <q_colon> well my isp will let me use a static IP if i try this new "protocol" thing but i dunno....
[08:04] <h_colon> IPv6 adds too much overhead to be commercially viable.
[08:04] <Jucato> joshua__: then you probably have it already installed.
[08:04] <hrp2171> q_colon: i just nuked windows xp off my home desktop and laptop.  buh-bye xp!
[08:04] <joshua__> Thats what it says it seems.
[08:04] <DaSkreech> h_colon: Just checking are you a bot spitting random statements?
[08:04] <Jucato> joshua__: hm... just to double check "aptitude search linux-restricted-modules-generic" and see if there's an "i" at the far left
[08:05] <joshua__> yes there is an "i"
[08:05] <Jucato> ah good. it's installed then
[08:05] <h_colon> DaSkreech: Python scales up for large projects better than Perl.
[08:05] <hrp2171> lol
[08:05] <Jucato> joshua__: now you can install nvidia-glx, do sudo nvidia-xconfig, and be on your way
[08:06] <hrp2171> if i were to dist-upgrade to edgy, will i lose the LTS status of 6.06?
[08:06] <joshua__> To go back, I can use the instructions on ubuntuguide.org to install it?
[08:06] <unix_infidel> hrp2171: of course, they are totally different.
[08:06] <Jucato> hrp2171: basically, yes... Edgy will just be supported for 18 months
[08:06] <hrp2171> then im sticking with 6.06
[08:07] <Jucato> joshua__: just "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" then "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[08:07] <DaSkreech> h_colon: Hungary exports more hippos than any other contemporary European country
[08:07] <noir> edgy is faster than dapper and much more streamline in apperance
[08:07] <Jucato> hrp2171: LTS of course doesn't mean you'll get the latest versions. it just means 3 years support for security and essential updates
[08:07] <joshua__> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[08:07] <q_colon> I tried to install kubuntu, but i get C:\Docume~1\local\> 'apt-get' command not found. What gives?
[08:07] <joshua__> Thats what the guide says.
[08:08] <h_colon> You need the -t experimental flag for kubuntu.
[08:08] <hrp2171> wow, linux has come a long ways. and thanks to wine, i don't have to give up my Steam games. Woohoo!!!
[08:08] <DaSkreech> q_colon: Are you doing this from inside Windows?
[08:08] <Jucato> joshua__: afaik, nvidia-kernel-common would have been installed together with linux-generic anyway
[08:08] <Jucato> lol ;)
[08:08] <Jucato> DaSkreech: do not feed :)
[08:08] <Jucato> wb mangz74 :)
[08:09] <noir> wine is the reason I still dual boot
[08:09] <joshua__> ok sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx has been run.  Now onto the config
[08:09] <hrp2171> noir: why?
[08:09] <mangz74> ey thanks
[08:09] <Jucato> joshua__: good luck! :)
[08:09] <shogouki> damn i've lauched edgy update just before night and nothing had been installed cause of the install flach question -_-
[08:09] <noir> hrp because wine is tuff to configure
[08:10] <joshua__> ok
[08:10] <joshua__> says the new X configuration file written to /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[08:10] <q_colon> how can I get my broadcom wifi nic to work under kubuntu?? ndis-something, right?
[08:10] <noir> and i find it easyer to have a small xp partition just in case theres any game I wish to play
[08:10] <h_colon> No, you need to run wine to run windows XP, manage your broadcom within XP's built in manager (like kwifi), then use cygwin to run kubuntu and you're set
[08:10] <Jucato> joshua__: yes. that's normal
[08:10] <joshua__> now how can I check?
[08:10] <Jucato> joshua__: restart X
[08:10] <hrp2171> not in kubuntu. i just installed it thru adept and off i went.  didnt have to config anything.
[08:11] <q_colon> :P
[08:11] <joshua__> glxgears still looks damn slow and skipping.
[08:11] <hrp2171> im so glad i kept this machine
[08:11] <Jucato> joshua__: you have to restart X
[08:11] <crim> doesnt kununtu come with firefox 2.0?
[08:11] <hrp2171> crim: nope
[08:11] <Jucato> crim: no. Ubuntu does. but you can install it
[08:11] <noir> oh... well i'm new to kubuntu I've been useing ubuntu for ages but I've never tried kde before tonight
[08:12] <shogouki> doesnt ff2 released after edgy ?
[08:12] <crim> do i have to go to the firefox website or is there some automated thing i can use
[08:12] <crim> this is my first half hour with kubuntu
[08:12] <Jucato> shogouki: FF2 was released hours before Edgy
[08:12] <q_colon> what about frame rate reporting with glxgears?????????????
[08:12] <h_colon> you need the -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark flag
[08:12] <abattoir> crim: you have edgy?
[08:12] <crim> i love kde and would rather support this than ubuntu
[08:12] <joshua__> WOOHOO!!!!!
[08:12] <Jucato> crim: you can download it from the repositories
[08:12] <shogouki> crim: great new user experiences doesnt it ?
[08:12] <abattoir> crim: then use konqueror ;)
[08:12] <newbie001> I got this problem while doing the upgrade http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28800/
[08:12] <Jucato> abattoir: hehe :)
[08:12] <abattoir> crim: 'sudo apt-get install firefox'
[08:13] <q_colon> all right you guys are clearly not ready for this
[08:13] <noir> I thought ice weasle was comming out as a replasement for fire fox due to copyright issues
[08:13] <hrp2171> i looked at xpde and it made me sick looking at the screenshots.  LOL
[08:13] <abattoir> crim: that should get you firefox rc3(i think), which would update itself to 2
[08:13] <q_colon> i'm taking it to #debian
[08:13] <joshua__> ctrl-alt-backspace which I actually remembered from somewhere.  I saw the nivida splash and the gui restarted
[08:13] <abattoir> or did 2 make it into edgy?
[08:13] <joshua__> glxgears is running fast and smooth
[08:13] <h_colon> what does /disco lights do?
[08:13] <crim> thanks abattoir
[08:13] <DaSkreech> o_O
[08:13] <joshua__> I know it's not a test of performance but it's all I know to do to see if it's installed.
[08:13] <crim> the kubuntu team should really incorperate firefox as default
[08:14] <crim> only flaw i see with this OS
[08:14] <Jucato> I'm so tempted to call the ops...
[08:14] <hrp2171> crim: licensing issues
[08:14] <h_colon> anybody? I get weird colors in bitchx when i do /disco lights
[08:14] <abattoir> crim: hehe, that's one contentious issue :)
[08:14] <Jucato> crim: why? we have Konqueror
[08:14] <shogouki> or iceweasel by default :p
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Katapult ftw
[08:14] <Jucato> DaSkreech: hehe!
[08:14] <abattoir> crim: some people would swear by konqueror, including me :)
[08:14] <noir> I'm not a fan of konqueror
[08:14] <crim> problem is some websites dont work well with konqueror
[08:14] <Jucato> I swear by Konqueror, with firefox or swiftfox behind my back :P
[08:14] <joshua__> Firefox wants ubuntu to pass along all upgrades to them before the roll em out and that goes against the open sourceness
[08:14] <DaSkreech> abattoir: some people sweat at konqueror
[08:14] <newbie001> what's the best way to spend a friday night: trolling on some random IRC
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Like me :)
[08:14] <joshua__> At least thats what I read.
[08:14] <abattoir> hehe
[08:14] <hrp2171> i would use konqueror, but got attached to FF from my windows days
[08:15] <h_colon> :P
[08:15] <Jucato> ok let's not go into a browser war please
[08:15] <Ant1> I have just install fglrx but when I launch glxgear or fgl_glxgears I have this error:
[08:15] <Ant1> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:15] <crim> i thought ubantu and kubuntu were part of the same organization
[08:15] <joshua__> Is Kconqueror better then firefox?
[08:15] <hrp2171> lol sorry jucato
[08:15] <h_colon> the k in konqueror stands for krap
[08:15] <crim> why can ubantu get firefox as default
[08:15] <Ant1> Someone know why?
[08:15] <crim> and not kubuntu
[08:15] <DaSkreech> joshua__: please don't start that
[08:15] <Jucato> joshua__: "better" is subjective
[08:15] <h_colon> iceweasel > * your base
[08:15] <abattoir> crim: it is, just like ubuntu has gnome by default, and kubuntu kde, it's firefox and konq.
[08:15] <Jucato> crim: because they have no other browser to use
[08:15] <joshua__> Thank you for all your help jucato.  You made a 79 year old very happy tonight!
[08:15] <kumsy>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY panneer
[08:15] <Jucato> joshua__: no problem
[08:15] <joshua__> Didn't mean to start a debate, just a general question.
[08:16] <hrp2171> wow, 79! awesome!
[08:16] <h_colon> nice kumsy
[08:16] <abattoir> joshua__: you both extensively, and then make your choice if you want to make one ;)
[08:16] <DaSkreech> 2 points to anyone who can figure out xpenguins
[08:16] <Jucato> s/you/use
[08:16] <h_colon> 79? no wonder you want a slow debian knockoff
[08:16] <abattoir> thanks Jucato :)
[08:16] <crim> IMO kubuntu is great, but to expand the fanbase they should include firefox as default for begginers
[08:16] <DaSkreech> joshua__: is better is almost always subjective
[08:16] <crim> i think its better than ubuntu
[08:16] <h_colon> crim: firefox is not free
[08:17] <crim> and for those familliar with windows KDE is the better desktop envirement
[08:17] <h_colon> wake up
[08:17] <Jucato> crim: like I said, that's something personal/subjective
[08:17] <shogouki> h_colon: well, it is
[08:17] <abattoir> crim: that's not going to happen anytime soon....(hopefully) :P
[08:17] <joshua__> I agress with ya DaSkreech
[08:17] <h_colon> repeat FAILFUX is NOT free
[08:17] <h_colon> both the logo and name are protected
[08:17] <Jucato> again, I'm asking everyone not to go into browser wars here
[08:17] <h_colon> wikipedia iceweasel douchebag
[08:17] <hrp2171> :)
[08:17] <h_colon> it is not free
[08:18] <shogouki> code is under gpl ...
[08:18] <abattoir> h_colon: please mind the words
[08:18] <DaSkreech> !coc > h_colon
[08:18] <Jucato> h_colon: enough
[08:18] <h_colon> ok
[08:18] <rikai> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel
[08:18] <rikai> ;)
[08:18] <h_colon> <-- sorry
[08:18] <crim> this OS blows me away, ive been a long time slackware user
[08:18] <joshua__> Please excuse me tpos.  I'm not use to this wireless keyboard I just received.
[08:18] <crim> and now i can finally recomend a OS for inexperianced users
[08:18] <joshua__> I hear about iceweasel on the Buzz Out Loud podcast.
[08:18] <hrp2171> crim: wow, me too! i slacked up until 10.2
[08:18] <dennister> g'evening all
[08:18] <crim> but an unfamilliar web browser will throw people off
[08:18] <Jucato> evening dennister
[08:18] <crim> hehe hrp i hear u bro
[08:19] <DaSkreech> h_colon: You get your point across a lot faster and the effect lasts longer if you are civil
[08:19] <crim> 11.0 is good too
[08:19] <Jucato> crim: you'd be surprised, that's not always true
[08:19] <h_colon> there might be iceweasel hacks to make it look like firefox and rename the binary command
[08:19] <DaSkreech> crim: recommend this room ::))
[08:19] <jiger> does anyone know ip address of packages.freecontrib.org. it in't working and am unable to upgrade to edgy?
[08:19] <joshua__> I have to say you folks are very helpful and knowledgeable.
[08:19] <h_colon> DaSkreech: i love this "room"
[08:19] <crim> but i just dont have the time to spend configuring
[08:19] <Jucato> jiger: it's down, afaik
[08:19] <h_colon> reminds me of my AOHell days
[08:19] <crim> oh i will
[08:19] <dennister> does anyone know when iceweasel will be ready on the repositories?
[08:19] <crim> this room is great
[08:19] <crim> u guys put up with a noob
[08:19] <hrp2171> with kids and family to deal with, i wanted a geeks' distro that wouldn't require much work if any: kubuntu!
[08:19] <jiger> Jucato: know any alternates?
[08:19] <crim> and not a single flame
[08:19] <crim> which i cant express enough appreciation
[08:19] <Jucato> jiger: what are you trying to do?
[08:20] <newbie001> DaSkreech: I'm having trouble with the instructions you gave me
[08:20] <crim> i will idle here from now on
[08:20] <DaSkreech> newbie001: Ok
[08:20] <DaSkreech> These being?
[08:20] <crim> and am a new convert from xp/slackware to kubuntu
[08:20] <crim> am really impressed with this OS
[08:20] <hrp2171> :D
[08:20] <jiger> Jucato: apt-get update and upgrade
[08:20] <DaSkreech> crim: Oh no you didn't!
[08:20] <newbie001> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28800/
[08:20] <dennister> it is a good os, and a good room
[08:20] <Jucato> jiger: do you need something from the freecontrib repository?
[08:20] <jiger> upgrading dapper to edgy
[08:20] <DaSkreech> xp slash slackware?
[08:20] <dennister> i have to agree with u crim
[08:21] <crim> ubuntu/kubuntu has real potential to compete with the likes of windows XP
[08:21] <newbie001> while apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal
[08:21] <DaSkreech> Werd Word!
[08:21] <crim> well i fieal boot DaSkreech
[08:21] <crim> dual
[08:21] <jiger> Jucato: I don't know but I guess some packages which are installed might need to be upgraded as well
[08:21] <shogouki> jiger: dist-upgrade no ?
[08:21] <DaSkreech> Oh. I thought you were using them interchangeably
[08:21] <crim> hehe nope
[08:22] <Jucato> jiger: ah did you install something from freecontrib? because if you didn't/don't have anything from it, you'd probably be better off disabling it temporarily
[08:22] <dennister> crim: i think kubuntu still needs some work b4 it can truly compete with xp
[08:22] <jiger> Jucato: any way to find out?
[08:22] <crim> does ubantu/kubantu install ATI and NVIDIA drivers by default?
[08:22] <hrp2171> i drove my home pc crazy: install linux, uninstall linux, install xp, uninstall xp, dual boot linux and xp. repeat.  LOL
[08:22] <Jucato> er... I don't know...
[08:22] <DaSkreech> newbie001: do you have a file /etc/init.d/acpid ?
[08:22] <dennister> for instance, java and flash have to be easier to install
[08:22] <crim> dennister: ur right, but as far as my linux experiance goes, this is as damn close as its ever been
[08:23] <jiger> Jucato: wud these be ok? http://plf.zarb.org/mirrors.php
[08:23] <dennister> hi flaccid
[08:23] <NDPTAL85> Alright
[08:23] <DaSkreech> crim: See that's sad :(
[08:23] <newbie001> DaSkreech: yes
[08:23] <dennister> yes...i've been struggling for 3 months now with linux
[08:23] <C-O-L-T> hello I use kUbuntu Dapper and I have an intel card based laptop and my resolution is not widescreen at all. I have installed 915resolution but I can not change pls help.I use a dell inspiron 1300 laptop
[08:23] <Jucato> dennister: Flash is easier to install on Edgy now. Java, well, licensees..
[08:23] <crim> whats sad DaSkreech
[08:23] <NDPTAL85> While in the process of updating to 6.10 my screen just went blank
[08:23] <flaccid_> hi
[08:23] <NDPTAL85> Anyone know how to fix this or what went wrong?
[08:23] <DaSkreech> newbie001: can you do a sudo /etc/init.d/acpid start
[08:23] <DaSkreech> tell me what happens
[08:23] <dennister> hey lostbyte! how ya doin pal?
[08:23] <hrp2171> there are so many howtos out that are well written for ubuntu.  i love this OS.
[08:23] <DaSkreech> crim: You think that Kubuntu is close to Windows Xp
[08:23] <shogouki> when sun will free java, it will be in th default installation of distros :)
[08:24] <newbie001> DaSkreech: let's see
[08:24] <newbie001> acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy
[08:24] <Jucato> jiger: the problem is I don't think there's support for Edgy in PLF. not entirely sure
[08:24] <crim> DaSkreech: what did u think was sad about what i said?
[08:24] <DaSkreech> crim: I think that windows XP is almost getting close to Kubuntu
[08:24] <dennister> <-----thinks some of the ops here are just the best
[08:24] <|lostbyte|> dennister, GoodMorning from here :)
[08:24] <hrp2171> i'm gonna go. gonna upload Day of Defeat to my Steam install. laters.
[08:24] <flaccid_> windows xp aint being developed anymore
[08:24] <DaSkreech> newbie001: strange
[08:25] <dennister> 2:24 am here
[08:25] <DaSkreech> newbie001: I guess you could try a runlevel hop
[08:25] <|lostbyte|> flaccid_, I think its win 2000.
[08:25] <newbie001> DaSkreech: I'm having some strange problems... I can't boot with the generic modules
[08:25] <shogouki> 8:24 am here, good morning guys :)
[08:25] <newbie001> DaSkreech: what is that?
[08:25] <crim> DaSkreech: honestly ur right, i can write a .doc and burn a .iso and thats all bone stock
[08:25] <DaSkreech> newbie001: Ohh
[08:25] <crim> DaSkreech: cant say the same for winxp
[08:25] <Jucato> ok I need to get some rest...
[08:25] <flaccid_> |lostbyte|: it is. 2k is win 5, xp is win 5.1
[08:25] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Thanks a lot man
[08:26] <newbie001> DaSkreech: going to another runlevel and trying again?
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Jucato: You've been a great help
[08:26] <dennister> I need to separate my large hda5 single partition...get a separate home partition
[08:26] <flaccid_> um win nt 5 and win nt 5.1
[08:26] <DaSkreech> newbie001: what does runlevel give you?
[08:26] <Jucato> DaSkreech: hehe sorry to bail out on you... my eyes are dead tired
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Me too
[08:26] <newbie001> N 2
[08:26] <jiger> Jucato: there is. they have put up on their main pages
[08:26] <dennister> I intend to use the systemrescuecd's qparted, but have a backup question?
[08:26] <DaSkreech> dennister: May I recommend parted?
[08:27] <dennister> DaSkreech: ahead of u :)
[08:27] <DaSkreech> newbie001: ok try a sudo init 1 ; sudo init 2
[08:27] <Jucato> jiger: ah then you can probably change to some other mirror. I'm not really sure as I have not used PLF
[08:27] <Jucato> ok bye now :)
[08:27] <NDPTAL85> Oh I just had to touch the keyboard to get the screen to come back on
[08:27] <dennister> I usually use partimage for image backups...but I don't think it will be appropriate for this?
[08:27] <DaSkreech> NDPTAL85: Yup
[08:28] <dennister> i mean, if partimage copies an entire partition exactly, and then I change the partition sizes, the partimage backup will be useless, right?
[08:28] <joshua__> Has wine not come out with a edgy version?
[08:28] <newbie001> DaScreech: aaaand.... we are back
[08:28] <DaSkreech> newbie001: sorry
[08:29] <flaccid_> joshua__: don't think so
[08:29] <DaSkreech> Didn't mention about the kicking :)
[08:29] <joshua__> Would I be safe in adding the dapper repos to install wine?
[08:29] <shogouki> kubuntu-desktop: Dpend: xorg mais ne sera pas install <- wtf ?
[08:29] <newbie001> DaScreech: don't worry, for a moment I thought... well... how's X going to take it?
[08:29] <crim> how do you install through adept manager?  i have files ready to install but nothing happens
[08:30] <shogouki> i can't install kubuntu-destop ? :/
[08:30] <DaSkreech> crim: click the Checkmark
[08:30] <dennister> anyone for an answer to my question? flaccid perhaps?
[08:30] <crim> DaSkreech: its gray\
[08:30] <dennister> (flaccid knows what he's doing)
[08:30] <flaccid_> dennister: need to ask partimage that
[08:30] <DaSkreech> crim: What does the Magnifying glass look like?
[08:31] <newbie001> DaScreech: now... runlevel say 6 2
[08:31] <crim> just an arrow
[08:31] <crim> let me try something else
[08:31] <crim> 1 sec
[08:31] <flaccid_> joshua__: i believe you would be me. i am going to, however i can not say officially on behalf on wine
[08:31] <DaSkreech> newbie001: Oh I meant the acpid start
[08:31] <joshua__> It seemed to install.
[08:32] <newbie001> DaSkreech: what do you mean?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> sudo /etc/init.d/acpid start
[08:32] <newbie001>  * Starting ACPI services...
[08:32] <newbie001> no [ ok ] 
[08:32] <newbie001> but...
[08:32] <newbie001> no error
[08:33] <flaccid_> newbie001: ps aux | grep acpid
[08:33] <flaccid_> should see [kacpid]  and also a acpid.socket
[08:34] <newbie001> flaccid_: yes.. I do
[08:34] <flaccid_> its going
[08:34] <newbie001> sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[08:35] <newbie001> invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed
[08:35] <DaSkreech> newbie001: ahhh!
[08:35] <DaSkreech> sudo /etc/init.d/acpid stop
[08:36] <newbie001> ok.. it stopped... let's see now
[08:37] <newbie001> DaSkreech: thank you!!!!!!!
[08:37] <DaSkreech> Duh
[08:37] <DaSkreech>  :)
[08:37] <flaccid_> that was an issue for others on the forum too
[08:37] <newbie001> :D
[08:38] <newbie001> so... let's see what happens if I restart this... shall we?
[08:38] <newbie001> I'll be back
[08:38] <felixjet> how can i limit speed of kGety ?
[08:38] <felixjet> kGet*
[08:40] <DaSkreech> felixjet: I'd assume it's in the settings
[08:41] <felixjet> is not :(
[08:41] <felixjet> but since it use wget
[08:41] <felixjet> maybe its possible to limit it from command line
[08:41] <felixjet> or wathever
[08:42] <crim> sight, i lost my phil hendrie mp3s
[08:42] <crim> sigh*
[08:43] <newbie001> I'm back
[08:43] <dennister> did it work?
[08:43] <flaccid_> felixjet: i have never found a way
[08:43] <felixjet> :(
[08:44] <newbie001> well... nothing changed
[08:45] <flaccid_> felixjet: wget does have --limit-rate
[08:47] <newbie001> This is my .xsessio-errors when I try to start kde: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28802/
[08:47] <newbie001> I mean....xsession-error
[08:47] <felixjet> flaccid_:  oh
[08:47] <felixjet> right
[08:48] <newbie001> I'm using Xephyr
[08:48] <newbie001> it worked in dapper
[08:48] <newbie001> kde without xephyr also works fine
[08:48] <flaccid_> newbie001: googled yet?
[08:48] <newbie001> yes
[08:49] <newbie001> nothing with edgy
[08:49] <flaccid_> it may not be edgy related
[08:49] <flaccid_> at least not directly
[08:49] <newbie001> ok...
[08:50] <newbie001> the thing is I'm not sure what to search... xephyr crash doesn't work
[08:50] <flaccid_> search with the various errors
[08:51] <newbie001> ok
[08:51] <newbie001> I'll see what I get
[08:51] <flaccid_> individually
[08:51] <dennister> in konq, used as a web browser, how do u get rid of the annoying sound that goes off every time you hit enter and send a request unencrypted?
[08:51] <flaccid_> starting with the first one
[08:52] <voicu> hi, where can i find a skeleton for the ~/.kde directory? i need to see the default settings (i messed up some stuff)
[08:52] <flaccid_> voicu: you would need to create a new user, log in once and use that
[08:52] <flaccid_> i'm not aware of a skeleton that is published
[08:53] <voicu> oh yeah, thanks
[08:53] <voicu> i thought there is one somewhere in the filesystem
[08:53] <xsacha> umm any help? :S when i type "set" i see this shell script??
[08:53] <xsacha> instead of shell script actually executing
[08:53] <flaccid_> not that i'm aware of
[08:54] <flaccid_> the command set will output the current environment variables
[08:54] <xsacha> yes but it doesnt, it used to
[08:54] <xsacha> now it's showing some shell script
[08:54] <newbie001> ok
[08:55] <newbie001> let's see what I find
[08:55] <flaccid_> some shell script?
[08:55] <DaSkreech> xsacha: What are you trying to do?
[08:55] <DaSkreech> And what are you typing exactly?
[08:55] <xsacha> "set"
[08:55] <xsacha> i wanted to look at my values
[08:55] <xsacha> no wonder everything is messed up
[08:56] <voicu> hey, i see a script too :D
[08:56] <xsacha> !pastelin
[08:56] <xsacha> !pastebin
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastelin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:56] <xsacha> this is what i see when i type set:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28803/
[08:56] <xsacha> there was too much that it ran out of buffer
[08:58] <flaccid_> something is broke
[08:58] <flaccid_> have tried to logout then back in ?
[08:59] <DaSkreech> flaccid_: You get the environ variables?
[08:59] <voicu> xsacha: i get the same script too
[08:59] <flaccid_> yeah Da
[09:00] <flaccid_> ok then what does xsacha and voicu have in common?
[09:00] <xsacha> emerald and my compiler stopped working?
[09:00] <flaccid_> which version of kubuntu are you on?
[09:01] <voicu> hmm, it looks like a script concerning dpkg, maybe an upgrade to apt or dpkg could have done that
[09:01] <xsacha> edgy 6.10 clean install
[09:01] <flaccid_> you, voicu?
[09:01] <voicu> dapper 6.10 + a lot of updates and installs
[09:01] <xsacha> is there meant to be a 'set' in /usr/bin/ ?
[09:01] <voicu> full upgrade
[09:02] <voicu> whereis set shouldn't return its location?
[09:02] <voicu> i get nothing
[09:02] <flaccid_> voicu: you did dapper > edgy upgrade?
[09:02] <xsacha> it's not in /usr/bin :(   whereis set tells me: set:
[09:02] <voicu> uh, no
[09:02] <voicu> only dapper updates + kde 3.5.4
[09:03] <flaccid_> dapper != 6.10
[09:03] <voicu> o, sorry, 6.06
[09:03] <flaccid_> i think set is a bash built-in
[09:04] <voicu> then maybe an upgrade to bash is the problem? a bug?
[09:04] <flaccid_> possibly. it would be hard one to search for on bugs.ubuntu.com
[09:04] <DaSkreech> xsacha: type set
[09:05] <xsacha> i did
[09:05] <flaccid_> also try #bash
[09:05] <xsacha> and i pasted output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28803/
[09:06] <DaSkreech> xsacha: No the command "type"
[09:06] <DaSkreech> type "type set"
[09:06] <xsacha> oh ok
[09:06] <xsacha> set is a shell builtin
[09:07] <flaccid_> i get the same
[09:07] <flaccid_> xsacha: dpkg -l | grep bash
[09:07] <flaccid_> xsacha: did you log out and log back in or reboot
[09:07] <xsacha> i've been rebooting all the time without changing anything
[09:07] <flaccid_> possibility that something set a variable from a leak (being the shell script)
[09:08] <flaccid_> ok
[09:08] <xsacha> well it messed up set, that's for sure
[09:09] <voicu> but how can a builtin command be messed up?
[09:09] <voicu> then bash is messed up
[09:13] <xsacha> at bottom of my .bashrc: if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ] ; then    . /etc/bash_completion fi
[09:15] <xsacha> i should comment it?
[09:16] <voicu> i don't know. you can try, there cannot be any harm
[09:18] <calcmandan> I installed a cool KDM.  Unfortunately, the screen is larger than my monitor.  So, I have to move my mouse to the borders of the monitor to scroll to the menu on the KDM screen.  Anyone know how I can increase the resolution on the KDM screen?
[09:18] <xsacha> ctrl+alt+plus?
[09:18] <calcmandan> ok, i'll try it.
[09:19] <calcmandan> would that be a permanent change?
[09:19] <xsacha> go to system settings-> monitor & display
[09:19] <xsacha> change it there
[09:21] <xsacha> brb
[09:21] <calcmandan> xsacha: Doesn't that change the resolution on my desktop?
[09:23] <xsacha> woohoo, set is normal now
[09:23] <xsacha> i commented that out and set just displaying my env
[09:23] <xsacha> last entry being _= as it should be :D
[09:25] <xsacha> im using kde, any reason why i should have dbus-launch ?
[09:26] <jhaquo> hi. i installed ubuntu (gnome) yesterday and then kde, now i have really weird big fonts in kde, can anyone help please?
[09:27] <newbie001> no luck...
[09:28] <newbie001> maybe it's too much to ask for help with my xephyr problems... since it is a hack I'm trying to use.
[09:28] <newbie001> But maybe you could help me with this other problem?
[09:29] <newbie001> I can't boot using the generic kernels
[09:29] <newbie001> since I upgraded to edgy
[09:30] <xsacha> jhaquo: i had exact same thing when i installed KDE from source
[09:30] <xsacha> try forcing DPI to another value (in fonts)
[09:30] <xsacha> or setting DisplaySize in xorg.conf
[09:31] <jhaquo> its weird, fonts are messed up but not in every app
[09:31] <xsacha> yeah
[09:31] <jhaquo> some app fonts are HUGE and others they are fine
[09:31] <xsacha> when i changed DPI, i got huge fonts in konqueror lol
[09:31] <xsacha> i just ended up setting fonts individually
[09:31] <jhaquo> sucks :s
[09:31] <xsacha> but hopefully DisplaySize works for you
[09:31] <jhaquo> where do i find that?
[09:32] <xsacha> in xorg.conf, DisplaySize 270 140  or whatever your monitor size is
[09:32] <newbie001> maybe I'll have to do a fresh edgy install
[09:32] <jhaquo> whats a good editor?
[09:32] <jhaquo> for kde?
[09:32] <xsacha> just put it in xorg.conf, section Monitor..     DisplaySize 403 306 for eg. (monitor lengths in millimetres)
[09:32] <jhaquo> for gnome it was gedit :p
[09:32] <xsacha> try kate
[09:33] <jhaquo> in what folder is that xorg.conf?
[09:33] <xsacha> alt+f2 : kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:33] <jhaquo> thx
[09:33] <stirn> howdy
[09:34] <jhaquo> ive got plenty of errors in my console
[09:34] <xsacha> gotta run kdesu from alt+f2 , sudo in konsole
[09:34] <jhaquo> ok
[09:36] <xsacha> actually kdesu should work in konsole :S
[09:36] <xsacha> what was first error?
[09:39] <noir> hello how do I set firefox as my default browser?
[09:42] <noir> where is kcontrol?
[09:44] <msl> noir: I htink you can change it by going to Kmenu -> System Settings -> KDE Components    and changing the default browser
[09:44] <anders__> hello
[09:44] <msl> hi anders__
[09:44] <anders__> after upgrading to edgy, X does not start
[09:44] <anders__> is this a known problem?
[09:45] <noir> msl ya I thought that as well didnt work
[09:49] <jhaquo> [09:48:21]  (annma): in your distro do you have a font setting?
[09:49] <jhaquo> anyone knows that one?
[09:51] <treat> my sudo is not working because im using the ldap i guess, i did a "sudo passwd" so i can use su and that is working fine but i can't get kdesu to work =/
[09:52] <houssem> hello
[09:52] <houssem> please how to install eclipse on kubuntu ?
[09:53] <jhaquo> hey! id like to know that one too, i can install eclipse but not the java runtimes :D
[09:53] <sredna> links
[09:53] <newbie001> does anyone have any idea how can I debug a problem that happens at boot time before my root partition is mounted?
[09:53] <sredna> hm, does kubuntu come with a text-mode browser?
[09:54] <msl> "sudo apt-get install eclipse"    says http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Java_Integrated_Development_Environment_.28Eclipse.29
[09:54] <jhaquo> yes but that does not install java
[09:54] <newbie001> www-browser
[09:54] <treat> remove gij then install sun vm?
[09:55] <jhaquo> gij?
[09:55] <houssem> "package eclipse not found" !!! ?
[09:55] <treat> GNU Interpreter for Java
[09:56] <treat> houssem: have you enabled universe repositories?
[09:57] <jhaquo> btw, i come again with my first problem, ive installed kde after installing gnome, now all the non-kde apps have very big fonts, any idea how to change that please?
[09:57] <msl> sredna: I weem to have w3m and don't remember installing it
[09:57] <houssem> no! how to do it please ?
[09:57] <treat> use adept
[09:57] <treat> like file -> manage repositories i think
[09:57] <houssem> what's adept ?
[09:58] <treat> package manager for kubuntu?
[09:58] <treat> system -> adapt manager
[09:58] <houssem> ok
[09:58] <houssem> and then ?
[09:59] <treat> uncomment the lines with universe in them
[10:00] <treat> all the packages in universe are unsupported though i think
[10:04] <houssem> treat: and now ?
[10:04] <treat> fetch updates
[10:04] <msl> anyone tried xgl on edgy with a radeon 8500?
[10:05] <houssem> please how to know my kunbutu dist ?? (dapper, breasy ...)
[10:06] <flaccid> jhaquo: u fix the gtk font problem?
[10:07] <DarkWizzard> hey all
[10:08] <DarkWizzard> I upgraded from dapper to edgy
[10:08] <Ash-Fox> Does anyone happen to know how one specifies multiple networks to connect to for wireless in /etc/networking/interfaces ?
[10:08] <DarkWizzard> and I lost internet connection
[10:08] <houssem> please how to know my kunbutu dist ?? (dapper, breasy ...)
[10:08] <flaccid> Ash-Fox: multiple?
[10:09] <Ash-Fox> flaccid, well, like a list of wireless networks to connect to, like say the work network, home network and so on?
[10:09] <Ash-Fox> I've been using a messy script so far todo so.
[10:09] <flaccid> Ash-Fox: system settings > network settings > profiles
[10:10] <DHGE> houssem: uname -r  gives?
[10:10] <Ash-Fox> flaccid, the problem with profiles is that it won't automatically connect to a valid network.
[10:10] <flaccid> have you tried NetworkManager
[10:11] <houssem> DHGE: 2.6.15-23-386
[10:11] <Ash-Fox> Yes, my wireless card refused to connect to any network when that was enabled.
[10:11] <DHGE> houssem: breezy
[10:12] <houssem> DHGE: why ?
[10:12] <flaccid> need to troubleshoot that then
[10:12] <DHGE> why not?  or look in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:12] <flaccid> there is a command to find the actual version of ubuntu installed, but can't remember it...
[10:13] <houssem> DHGE: what's the relation between 2.6.15-23-386 and breezy ?
[10:14] <Jucato> flaccid: lsb_release -a
[10:14] <flaccid> yep thats the one Jucato. houssem what does lsb_realease -a return?
[10:15] <houssem> flaccid: Codename : dapper
[10:15] <houssem> i have dapper or breezy ?????
[10:16] <flaccid> dapper with old kernel perhaps?
[10:16] <houssem> maybe
[10:16] <flaccid> what is the description: field?
[10:16] <DHGE> houssem: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=linux-image&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[10:16] <Jucato> 2.6.15-23 it the default kernel installed with Dapper
[10:16] <DaSkreech> Jucato: damn man go to bed!
[10:16] <houssem> flaccid: Description:    Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[10:16] <flaccid> its dapper then
[10:17] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I just took a quick nap. it's just past 4pm here :)
[10:17] <DaSkreech> It's just like 4am here
[10:17] <rikai> Well thats a bit of a problem.
[10:17] <flaccid> houssem: you can upgrade to 6.06.1 or 6.10 (edgy)
[10:17] <rikai> Kubuntu Edgy doesn't respect the "default browser" option in kde.
[10:18] <DHGE> houssem: that gives dapper - soory
[10:18] <houssem> DHGE: ok no prob
[10:18] <DarkWizzard> hello all
[10:18] <DarkWizzard> I upgraded to edgy
[10:18] <DarkWizzard> and I lost internet connection
[10:18] <houssem> flaccid: edgy it's the name of the dist ?
[10:18] <DarkWizzard> Host works
[10:19] <DarkWizzard> I can retrieve ip adreses to hosts
[10:19] <DarkWizzard> but I cant connect
[10:19] <flaccid> houssem: of the version i guest. dapper then edgy is the new one just released.
[10:19] <DarkWizzard> it says that cannot assign requested address
[10:19] <flaccid> DarkWizzard: what type of connection is it?
[10:19] <DarkWizzard> simple cable conection
[10:19] <DarkWizzard> nothing wireless
[10:19] <flaccid> simple?
[10:19] <DarkWizzard> with a simple network card
[10:19] <flaccid> can you ping google.com?
[10:19] <houssem> i hope that i will not have same poblems of DarkWizzard :)
[10:19] <DHGE> DarkWizzard: maybe a simple restart of the cable-box does it ...
[10:19] <DarkWizzard> nope
[10:20] <DarkWizzard> I tryed
[10:20] <DarkWizzard> I'm under windows
[10:20] <flaccid> but host google.com works?
[10:20] <DarkWizzard> yes
[10:20] <DarkWizzard> that does
[10:20] <flaccid> where is the dns server. is it cached?
[10:20] <DaSkreech> Jucato: This is fascinating
[10:20] <DarkWizzard> I tryed configuring it with ifconfig
[10:20] <DarkWizzard> maybe
[10:20] <Jucato> ??
[10:20] <DHGE> ifconfig /renew ?
[10:20] <DaSkreech> I've been testing a friend's machin
[10:20] <flaccid> DarkWizzard: where is the dhcp server?
[10:21] <DaSkreech>  I had it booted in a live Cd and installed stress and ran it for two days
[10:21] <DaSkreech> Now I quickly figured out the memory is screwed
[10:21] <DaSkreech>  any time I did a probe on it it crashed
[10:21] <Jucato> oh... :(
[10:21] <DaSkreech> So I ran the stress test on teh other components
[10:22] <DaSkreech> but I had it running with the Whole OS in the memory for two days
[10:22] <DarkWizzard> well
[10:22] <DarkWizzard> I havent tryed putting it on automatic
[10:22] <DaSkreech>  i can't get Windows to stay up for 20 minutes without blue screening
[10:22] <sredna> Something good appears to have happened to font rendering in X
[10:22] <flaccid> DarkWizzard: maybe thats why
[10:22] <DarkWizzard> I'll try
[10:22] <DarkWizzard> hope I'll get it working
[10:22] <flaccid> sredna: ?
[10:22] <DarkWizzard> the upgrade wasn't really smooth
[10:22] <Jucato> in the memory... wow
[10:23] <DarkWizzard> brb
[10:23] <DarkWizzard> :)
[10:23] <DarkWizzard> but I hope not
[10:23] <DaSkreech> Jucato: So I was going to give him back tonight since I had it running so long with stress tests etc
[10:23] <sredna> flaccid: An observation. After upgrading, some fonts looks better
[10:23] <DaSkreech>  Good thing I didn't
[10:23] <flaccid> sredna: sounds good to me
[10:23] <DaSkreech> I wonder if the Drives themselves are bad...
[10:23] <sredna> flaccid: Definately :)
[10:23] <flaccid> sredna: new theme?
[10:24] <DHGE> sredna: I found the opposite - there are even some bugs openend on launschpad ...
[10:24] <Jucato> DaSkreech: excuse me, what browser are you using?
[10:24] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Eh?
[10:24] <Jucato> nvm...
[10:24] <Jucato> :)
[10:24] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Where? on my machine or his?
[10:24] <flaccid> with linux and apt/debian are upgrades from major release to new major release just as easy as point upgrades?
[10:25] <Jucato> DaSkreech: nvm.
[10:25] <sredna> flaccid: No, my desktop haven't been changed. There is a visible improvement in KHTML too, possibly due to a better selection of installed fonts or configuration it now uses fonts that was ignored before
[10:25] <flaccid> sredna: fair enough
[10:25] <sredna> DHGE: I don't know what launchpad is
[10:25] <flaccid> !launchpad
[10:25] <DHGE> lucky you ;-)
[10:25] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[10:27] <sredna> Appearantly something I do not want
[10:28] <houssem> does gparted runs on kubuntu ???
[10:28] <DHGE> houssem: qtparted
[10:28] <ivo___> Hi. Any known problems with x11-common?
[10:28] <DHGE> or: yes
[10:28] <ivo___> dist-upgrade isn't running without problems
[10:29] <houssem> DHGE: what's qtparted ?
[10:29] <DHGE> guess!
[10:29] <DHGE> !qtparted
[10:29] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 704 kB
[10:30] <houssem> thanks
[10:31] <ubuntu_> hello
[10:31] <houssem> how to play divx on kubuntu ?
[10:32] <DHGE> houssem: do some homework PLEASE!!!  FAQ ...
[10:32] <houssem> ???!!!!
[10:32] <DHGE> http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions
[10:32] <flaccid> !divx
[10:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:33] <ubuntu_> toma ya
[10:33] <ubuntu_> jajaja
[10:33] <newbie001> anybody here knows something about grub?
[10:34] <flaccid> probably
[10:34] <DHGE> man grub?  ;-)
[10:34] <chupa> i got a question: im using KDE, and each time X starts, there are Kopete and 2 Konsole windows opened. like it remembered from some time. how can i get rid of them?
[10:34] <newbie001> yes... man is the man
[10:35] <flaccid> chupa: turn off restore session
[10:35] <newbie001> my problem is this: while using generic kernel my root filesystem doesn't get mounted
[10:35] <chupa> flaccid, where?
[10:35] <DHGE> chupa: KDE remembers your session - close the apps before logout or search systemsettings and stop KDE's memory there
[10:35] <flaccid> which i can't remember where it is. can someone help?
[10:36] <newbie001> "Waiting for root filesystem" is the last thing I get
[10:36] <flaccid> DHGE: that is incorrect. there is a setting for sessions
[10:36] <DHGE> ??
[10:36] <flaccid> chupa:  it is in kcontrol > session manager
[10:36] <chupa> DHGE, it restores not from last session, but from few days ago.. like it has hung up
[10:36] <flaccid> chupa: you probably won't start with empty session
[10:36] <newbie001> my 386 kernel works perfect
[10:37] <flaccid> won't = want
[10:37] <newbie001> I don't think man will help me with that
[10:37] <flaccid> newbie001: perhaps #grub will
[10:38] <DHGE> chupa: OIC   but I can`t help -- search deep in .kde and delete the session file (DO A BACKUP!)
[10:38] <newbie001> flaccid, ok... but since this happened after an upgrade to edgy I thought maybe someone knew
[10:38] <DHGE> newbie001: what does NOT work?
[10:38] <flaccid> DHGE: not required. kde restores sessions by default with kubuntu
[10:38] <flaccid> !bugs > newbie001
[10:38] <DarkWizzard> back
[10:38] <DarkWizzard> still no net
[10:38] <DarkWizzard> I can ping around
[10:39] <DarkWizzard> but when I want to telnet
[10:39] <DarkWizzard> it says couldn't assign requested address
[10:39] <flaccid> so you have net
[10:39] <flaccid> but not telnet?
[10:39] <newbie001> DHGE: I can't boot using any generic or 686 kernel...
[10:39] <DarkWizzard> something like that
[10:39] <robajz> DarkWizzard: do you use a firewall?
[10:39] <DarkWizzard> I suspect what is causing the problem
[10:39] <DHGE> newbie001: how many harddisks? SATA?
[10:39] <flaccid> well you do have net then DarkWizzard
[10:39] <DarkWizzard> yeah but I turned it off
[10:39] <DarkWizzard> http://need4linux.extra.hu/howto.php?list=17
[10:39] <newbie001> DHGE: 1 SATA
[10:40] <DarkWizzard> this was my old sysctl.conf
[10:40] <flaccid> DarkWizzard: its most likely firewall or selinux if you run it
[10:40] <newbie001> DHGE: dual boot
[10:40] <DarkWizzard> and during the upgrade it asked me to replace it with a new one
[10:40] <DarkWizzard> I said no
[10:40] <newbie001> DHGE: worked fine with dapper
[10:40] <DarkWizzard> how can i reconfigure it ?
[10:40] <newbie001> DHGE: and works fine with the 386 kernels
[10:41] <robajz> DarkWizzard: dpkg-reconfigure
[10:41] <DarkWizzard> yeah
[10:41] <DHGE> newbie001: look at /boot/grub/menu.lst  of 386-kernel and compare
[10:41] <DarkWizzard> but what packet ?
[10:41] <DarkWizzard> package
[10:41] <DHGE> my SATA is a bit slow - I have do do a warm start to get it into booting  - AARGH
[10:42] <robajz> search the apt repository what package the file belongs to
[10:42] <DHGE> slow on spinning up I suppose ...
[10:42] <DarkWizzard> search for what ?
[10:42] <robajz> DarkWizzard: mmnt :)
[10:42] <DarkWizzard> hmm
[10:42] <DHGE> dpkg-reconfigure -a   d&r ...
[10:43] <newbie001> !pastebin
[10:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:43] <DarkWizzard> ok
[10:43] <DarkWizzard> thanks
[10:43] <DHGE> don't ;-)
[10:44] <newbie001> :D
[10:44] <newbie001> DHGE as far as I can tell they are the same http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28816/
[10:45] <robajz> DHGE: dpkg-reconfigure -a reconfigures all packages?
[10:45] <DHGE> yes ...
[10:45] <robajz> DHGE: is that necessary? :)
[10:45] <DHGE> no - d&r means: ducking and running
[10:46] <robajz> DHGE: ok, now I see - a joke, well I think he is doing it right now :D
[10:47] <newbie001> DHGE: do you mean I should reconfigure -a?
[10:47] <DHGE> newbie001: NO
[10:47] <newbie001> DHGE: ok
[10:47] <newbie001> DHGE: it's a weird problem....
[10:47] <robajz> I can't remember how to find a package for a file...
[10:48] <newbie001> DHGE: maybe a fresh reinstall?
[10:49] <compudaze> whats the best irc client?
[10:49] <DHGE> newbie001: no - try some other numbers on boot (hd1,4) or (hd0,3) turn off splash (but you do not come that far anyway)
[10:49] <DHGE> weird indeed ...
[10:49] <compudaze> i'm only used konversation and xhcat
[10:49] <compudaze> xchat rather, anything better?
[10:50] <Acidic32> !wmv
[10:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:50] <newbie001> DHGE: ok... I'll try tomorow after getting some sleep
[10:50] <newbie001> thanks!
[10:53] <pielgrzym> hello people :) does anybody have localisation problems in kde after upgrading to edgy? I made a clean edgy install and reused my home folder from dapper - now some apps (like adept) aren't in my native language... Pls help :)
[10:55] <robajz> pielgrzym: try an empty profile
[10:55] <robajz> pielgrzym: and see what happens
[10:55] <pielgrzym> robajz: empty profile works ok, but I don't want to spend hours configuring kde from scratch :)
[10:56] <pielgrzym> I can't figure out where localisation settings are kept ~/.kde/config/locale seems to be empty both in clean and reused profile
[10:57] <robajz> pielgrzym: a good start, I'd try to delete something under .kde/share/apps/adept ? i'm just guessing
[10:57] <pielgrzym> no adept folder there :)
[10:57] <pielgrzym> I already tried that :)
[10:57] <pielgrzym> the problem is wider
[10:57] <pielgrzym> for example some system settings are in english and some in polish
[10:57] <pielgrzym> :)
[10:58] <pielgrzym> robajz: but thanks for help :)
[10:59] <robajz> pielgrzym: you're right, then try to reinstall adept? or some language packs?
[10:59] <pielgrzym> reinstallin language packs seems to be a good idea
[10:59] <pielgrzym> I can't reinstall half of the system though (thus not only adept is the problem ;) )
[11:00] <pielgrzym> do you know what are language packs packages names?
[11:00] <fdoving> pielgrzym: do you know the applications in question are fully translated?
[11:00] <robajz> pielgrzym: yes :o but now I relize it might not help
[11:01] <pielgrzym> fdoving: yes, they are fully translated :) system settings dialog for example :)
[11:01] <pielgrzym> robajz: how did you realize that?
[11:02] <robajz> pielgrzym: because it is not a system wide issue, it works with empty profile
[11:02] <pielgrzym> robajz: hmm. I tried deleting setting for applications like adept, but no success :(
[11:03] <robajz> pielgrzym: try to reset regional settings in kcontrol
[11:03] <pielgrzym> ok
[11:04] <IRCMonkeyX> hi, i have ubuntu 6.06 lts, i wanna install kubuntu on it from cd, what should i do ?
[11:04] <IRCMonkeyX> i wanna try kubuntu too
[11:05] <pielgrzym> robajz: I'll restart x to change language settings :) brb
[11:05] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: I gues it would be as simple as "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[11:06] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: i know that option, but my internet connection is limited, no chance to install from cd ? i dont wanna lose my settings and files too
[11:06] <fdoving> IRCMonkeyX: as ircmonkeyx says, almost, first insert the CD and run 'sudo apt-cdrom add' then 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[11:07] <IRCMonkeyX> fdoving: where should i write "sudo apt-cdrom add" and i will not lose anything right?
[11:08] <IRCMonkeyX> by the way, i have xp and ubuntu in pc
[11:08] <fdoving> 'kmenu -> system -> konsole' and no, you should not loose anything.
[11:09] <fdoving> if you're able to stay in here during the install, and ask people for help if you get problems, that would help though.
[11:09] <robajz> fdoving: isn't he in gnome? :)
[11:10] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: yes i am in gnome
[11:10] <IRCMonkeyX> how will i get kmenu?
[11:10] <fdoving> ah.
[11:10] <fdoving> find the terminal somewhere.
[11:10] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: in applications menu
[11:11] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: i know it
[11:11] <IRCMonkeyX> but
[11:11] <fdoving> robajz: good thing you noticed. i'm too used to helping kubuntu users :)
[11:11] <robajz> fdoving: yes :)
[11:11] <IRCMonkeyX> fdoving: i know that option, but my internet connection is limited, no chance to install from cd ? i dont wanna lose my settings and files too
[11:12] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: hey, you've alrady said that... dejavu?
[11:12] <fdoving> IRCMonkeyX: what CD do you have? the livecd?
[11:13] <IRCMonkeyX> fdoving: yeah live cd, kubuntu company sent it to me
[11:13] <fdoving> ok, then you can't.
[11:13] <fdoving> you need the alternate cd, to do alternate stuff.
[11:13] <fdoving> and then you would have to download it anyway, or have someone download&burn for you.
[11:14] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: kinda dejavu:) just wanted to make understand my position
[11:14] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: I understand :o) a bad situation...
[11:15] <IRCMonkeyX> friends, what happens, if i format ubuntu, than install kubuntu ?
[11:16] <IRCMonkeyX> what staff should i back up ?
[11:16] <fdoving> then you'll get kubuntu, without your files.
[11:16] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: I'd recommend creating a special partition for the new system
[11:16] <fdoving> backup your /home/username folder.
[11:17] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: then transfering your home ... yes - fdoving
[11:17] <IRCMonkeyX> for packages that i downloaded until now ?
[11:17] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: so you'll be able to revert
[11:18] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: you can find some in /var/cache/apt...
[11:18] <alex_> hallo @ all
[11:18] <alex_> !
[11:18] <IRCMonkeyX> yes robajz i was asking that path, thankx
[11:19] <alex_>  can somebody help me? i have a gigabyte board dq-6 with realtek audio! but my audio doesn't work
[11:20] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: btw it is a good idea to make own partition for /home
[11:21] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: btw?
[11:21] <IRCMonkeyX> what is btw:)
[11:21] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: by the way :)
[11:21] <IRCMonkeyX> ehehe:)
[11:22] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: if you plan to try more distros
[11:22] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: i have suse in my laptop, in pc i have xp and ubuntu, now trying kubuntu too
[11:23] <IRCMonkeyX> i plan to install kubuntu where was ubuntu, exactly to same partions
[11:23] <IRCMonkeyX> i hope i do it without making any dumb things
[11:23] <IRCMonkeyX> i dont wanna lose any data...
[11:23] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: if you've got enogh place, BACKUP :D
[11:24] <twosouls82> if not, memorize
[11:24] <twosouls82> :)
[11:24] <robajz> :D
[11:24] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: i am taking, username folder and apt folder
[11:24] <IRCMonkeyX> is there anything more to back up?
[11:25] <_JP> are there dapper->edgy upgrade instructions somewhere in the wiki?
[11:25] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: It depends on what apps you are using
[11:25] <twosouls82> !upgrade
[11:25] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[11:25] <_JP> thanks
[11:25] <twosouls82> np :)
[11:26] <bob_jensen> hi all
[11:26] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: If you just installed ubuntu, that woud be enough
[11:26] <twosouls82> hih bob_jensen
[11:26] <bob_jensen> kubuntu 6.10 is one of the best releases ever :)
[11:26] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: i dont have too many apps, and i only care for my personal files and apt's that i downloaded
[11:26] <bob_jensen> twosouls82: :)
[11:26] <bob_jensen> but problem is, on the live cd, all my vt's (ctrl-alt-fX) are "garbled"
[11:26] <pielgrzym> robajz: it seems whole system is now 'half-translated' - I created a new user and have the same problem :(
[11:27] <bob_jensen> they just show some dancing green gibberish
[11:27] <pielgrzym> tried reinstalling language pack but no luck
[11:27] <bob_jensen> some line and blocks like patter
[11:27] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: how large is your disk and free space on it?
[11:27] <bob_jensen> *pattern
[11:27] <bob_jensen> is it a known problem ?
[11:27] <robajz> pielgrzym: auch! what have you done?
[11:27] <IRCMonkeyX> i have 80 gb harddisk , c and d are windows , and ubuntu and swap
[11:28] <pielgrzym> robajz: now I'm very concerned about another thing - changing users messed up graphics :(((( restarting x did't help only reboot help. This is really an issue :(
[11:28] <bob_jensen> should i file a bug report ? or is a known problem /
[11:28] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: If D: is your data partition, is it a FAT32 one?
[11:29] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: yes sir it is
[11:29] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: so you can use it as a /home too
[11:30] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: and i pasted 2gb data from ubuntu to windows at the moment, now i will start to install kubuntu on ubuntu ::)
[11:30] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: backup your data to D, reorganize it to have the home form
[11:31] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: then you can mount D as /home
[11:31] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: it is already done to d, i wanna leave d for windows...
[11:31] <robajz> pielgrzym: what have you done to the system? :)
[11:31] <robajz> pielgrzym: you only upgraded?
[11:32] <pielgrzym> robajz: it's a clean install. I've only installed lvm support and reused my old home folder from dapper
[11:32] <cox377> whats the best way to upgrade to 6.10?
[11:32] <pielgrzym> cox377: using a cd
[11:32] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: now i will install kubuntu, and when it asks for place for kubuntu, i will show ubuntu partions, it will format ubuntu, and install kubuntu, as i hope ?
[11:32] <pielgrzym> cox377: I destroyed my dapper install trying to upgrade using apt-get
[11:32] <cox377> pielgrzym: so downloading, burning and upgrading? or a freash install?
[11:32] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: right?
[11:33] <cox377> pielgrzym: ahh doesnt sound good then
[11:33] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX:  right, but think twice :)
[11:33] <pielgrzym> cox377: fresh install is the best choice if you have more time IMO :)
[11:33] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: any danger ? pls tell me if there are, new linux user here:)
[11:33] <cox377> pielgrzym: lol i;ve spent so much time configuring all the settings, is it possible to save all the config settings of the whole system?
[11:33] <pielgrzym> cox377: the problem with apt-get dist upgrade is that if you're unlucky you can totally mess dependecies
[11:34] <pielgrzym> cox377: yes, it's possible - just backup your home folder :) and crucial files from /etc :)
[11:34] <pielgrzym> cox377: yet, I experience some weird tralslation problems after switching in edgy to my old dapper home folder
[11:34] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: yes, you must be sure which partition you choose. You will loose your current MBR too.
[11:35] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: will it give error 17:(
[11:35] <hanan> >:[ I am not impressed by kubuntu/edgy
[11:35] <hanan> ] :<
[11:35] <pielgrzym> unfortunetly edgy seems to be not finished - I would put the current version as release candidate not a ready one :(
[11:35] <pielgrzym> hanan: me neither
[11:35] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX:  what does error 17 mean ?
[11:36] <hanan> -_-
[11:36] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: grub error 17
[11:36] <pielgrzym> hanan: I get constant problems with edgy.
[11:36] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: it doesnt open even xp even ubuntu
[11:36] <hanan> My other machine updated FINE to edgy about 3 weeks ago.... yet this machine won't, after it is declared stable?
[11:37] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: haven't heard about it...
[11:37] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: related by loosing current mbr
[11:37] <cox377> pielgrzym: so i take it then that all settings are in the /etc folder?
[11:37] <pielgrzym> I wouldn't recommend replacing the whole etc folder :)
[11:37] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: ah yes, it is easy to recover from te live CD
[11:38] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: by which command pls tell me, because it is possible to have it?
[11:38] <pielgrzym> just /etc/fstab if your partition tables didn't change and some other config files like apache config etc.
[11:38] <alex_> have problems with sources.list can sombody help me? what i have to added 4 w32codecs?
[11:38] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: grub-install
[11:39] <cox377> pielgrzym: what about fonts etc etc, the thing is i did find thatit took a long time to config everything to the way i liked it, FF etc etc
[11:39] <IRCMonkeyX> robajz: ok thanx, now going, i will come back with kubuntu after 30 minutes see you:)
[11:39] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: but I prefer to have grub on partition, not in MBR
[11:39] <mike_> root passwort in kubuntu?
[11:39] <robajz> IRCMonkeyX: see you :)
[11:40] <hanan> mike_: same as the 1st user's
[11:40] <hanan> ugh.
[11:41] <hanan> I will leave before you all hate my presence
[11:41] <robajz> pielgrzym: You mean edgy is broken by default?
[11:41] <pielgrzym> robajz: yup - it caused me a lot of grief
[11:41] <robajz> pielgrzym: I'm running MEPIS, so I can't tell...
[11:41] <apokryphos> alex_: check the FAQ
[11:42] <apokryphos> pielgrzym: in what way?
[11:42] <apokryphos> Edgy has been very good here
[11:42] <pielgrzym> apokryphos: first it destroyed my dapper (apt-get), than I couldn't run alternate cd (even the cd test did't work)
[11:43] <apokryphos> pielgrzym: did you follow the full instructions for ugprading?
[11:43] <apokryphos> *upgrading
[11:43] <pielgrzym> then I had huge problems partitioning my drive with edgy live cd - due to not seeing mobo controler only seeing external one
[11:43] <pielgrzym> than edgy live cd installer kept formatiing my / as ext3
[11:44] <pielgrzym> finally after installing clean edgy
[11:44] <apokryphos> what would you want it to be? reiser?
[11:44] <apokryphos> I don't think that's supported, atm, actually
[11:44] <pielgrzym> It messed up iftab and did't recognize my network cart
[11:44] <pielgrzym> xfs
[11:44] <pielgrzym> it is now - the installer finally worked ok
[11:44] <apokryphos> are you using ndiswrapper for your network card?
[11:44] <pielgrzym> after making network work
[11:44] <pielgrzym> I have language problems. damn
[11:45] <pielgrzym> I don't know what is ndiswrapper
[11:45] <pielgrzym> there was a wrong mac address in iftab file, and it did't fing ethernet interface, but I fixed that
[11:45] <pielgrzym> *find
[11:45] <apokryphos> I see
[11:46] <pielgrzym> did I mention i had HUGE problems with LVM?
[11:46] <pielgrzym> because there is no native lvm support in edgy live cd
[11:46] <pielgrzym> neither in full install
[11:46] <robajz> pielgrzym: so you are not satisfied at all...
[11:46] <pielgrzym> npo
[11:46] <pielgrzym> nope
[11:47] <pielgrzym> I'm considering moving to gentoo
[11:47] <abelh> miguel ----estas por ahi
[11:47] <robajz> pielgrzym: so you can choose to solve current issues or try another distro too...
[11:47] <pielgrzym> edgy feels too much like mandriva now :(
[11:47] <apokryphos> pielgrzym: have you filed bug reports on where you encountered problems?
[11:47] <pielgrzym> not yet
[11:47] <robajz> pielgrzym: I'd recommend MEPIS
[11:48] <apokryphos> pielgrzym: why do you say that? Mandriva really is a bit of a mess
[11:48] <pielgrzym> robajz: mepis is debian basen isn't it?
[11:48] <robajz> pielgrzym: ubuntu based
[11:48] <apokryphos> and not just in 'bugs' but in many other things
[11:48] <pielgrzym> apokryphos: you can see how much trouble caused a single edgy install :(
[11:48] <pielgrzym> robajz: hm, sounds cool :) I'll check it :)
[11:48] <houssem> i have ZendStudio and when i want to save it says "you don't have permission" !!!!!!
[11:48] <apokryphos> still, Gentoo is hardly going to cause the slightest pain relief 8)
[11:49] <robajz> pielgrzym: but try to take a little effort to solve current issues, it's a good practice
[11:49] <pielgrzym> apokryphos: and now I can't figure out why edgy is half translated on my system :(
[11:49] <pielgrzym> robajz: thats why I'm still here ;)
[11:49] <beanie_> hey guys, i have trouble with my networkconnection. if i start up i run a script wich changes my mac-adresse. after this my network gives my a "network unreachable" back. then i must go to the kdecenter und must disable eth1 and enable eth1. than everything works. i dont want to go to the kdecenter everytime
[11:49] <apokryphos> pielgrzym: if youv'e got non-kde related issues, #ubuntu is really a better place for questions
[11:50] <robajz> pielgrzym: so where is the problem, is it still the adept?
[11:50] <pielgrzym> yesterday I was totally frustrated after 8 hours of messy edgy install, today I've got a lot of good will :)
[11:50] <houssem> please i need help !!
[11:50] <pielgrzym> apokryphos: I'll ask there :)
[11:50] <pielgrzym> robajz: the problem now seems to be a system wide problem :(
[11:51] <robajz> pielgrzym: ok have you looked at locales?
[11:51] <pielgrzym> apokryphos: did I mention that user switching causes screen rendering to go to total mess? this is a know issiue
[11:51] <houssem> i have ZendStudio and when i want to save it says "you don't have permission" !!!!!!
[11:51] <pielgrzym> robajz: reinstalled them a minute ago, but no luck :( maybe reboot will help?
[11:52] <robajz> pielgrzym: you may try.
[11:52] <pielgrzym> ok, so I'm rebooting :)
[11:52] <robajz> pielgrzym: wait :)
[11:52] <pielgrzym> a questione
[11:52] <pielgrzym> question
[11:52] <ju_> bonsoir
[11:53] <robajz> pielgrzym: if you run "locale" what do you see?
[11:53] <pielgrzym> why there are two language packeges: language-pack-pl and the same language-pack-kde-pl?
[11:53] <pielgrzym> !pastebin
[11:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:53] <robajz> pielgrzym: I think the first one depends on the others
[11:53] <houssem> i have ZendStudio and when i want to save it says "you don't have permission" !!!!!!
[11:54] <pielgrzym> after running locale I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28824/
[11:54] <houssem> i have ZendStudio and when i want to save it says "you don't have permission" !!!!!!
[11:54] <houssem> please i need help !!
[11:54] <pielgrzym> houssem: how do you run it?
[11:55] <pielgrzym> robajz: locale produces: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28824/
[11:55] <houssem> pielgrzym: from a shourtcat on the desktop
[11:55] <GnarusLeo> can anyone help me with firefox 2.0? I get this error: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
[11:55] <robajz> pielgrzym: taking a look...
[11:55] <pielgrzym> robajz: thnx :)
[11:55] <GnarusLeo> Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
[11:55] <GnarusLeo> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
[11:55] <GnarusLeo> Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
[11:55] <GnarusLeo> Error: Aborting: no font found
[11:55] <GnarusLeo> wops
[11:55] <cox377> lol
[11:56] <pielgrzym> apokryphos: there is one thing I like in edgy though :) a really nice default (generic) kernel :)
[11:56] <pielgrzym> houssem: tried looking in the shorcut properties?
[11:57] <robajz> pielgrzym: there you see it... there might be no pl_PL locales
[11:57] <ju_> hello
[11:57] <pielgrzym> pl_PL?
[11:57] <ju_> do you know if the upgrade is automatic from dapper to udgy?
[11:57] <pielgrzym> ju_: it isn't
[11:58] <robajz> pielgrzym: try to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"
[11:58] <pielgrzym> ju_: better download a cd - upgrading using apt-get can be dangerous :)
[11:58] <pielgrzym> robajz: ok :)
[11:58] <ju_> pielgrzym: thanx a lot :)
[11:59] <Electrolyte> Can ANYONE explain to me how to remove k3d from dpkg for updating?
[11:59] <Electrolyte> It ALWAYS fails, and I just cannot remove it when ever I do anything with APT>
[12:00] <Electrolyte> Really starting to heck me off.
[12:01] <robajz> Electrolyte: you should have a look at apt configuration
[12:02] <houssem> pielgrzym: the owner isn't root
[12:02] <robajz> Electrolyte: man apt,conf or so
[12:02] <pielgrzym> robajz: I'll give it a reboot or at least a x restart :)
[12:02] <Electrolyte> Ok robajz
[12:02] <houssem> pielgrzym: how to modify it ???
[12:02] <robajz> pielgrzym: ok...
[12:03] <pielgrzym> houssem: who is the owner? what are the privilages? I'll be back in a minute - just a reboot :)
[12:05] <Electrolyte> robajz: That didn't really help :/
[12:07] <houssem> pielgrzym: the owner is houssem a simple user
[12:08] <pielgrzym> houssem: try running it from console and see if it gives a more detailed output :)
[12:08] <robajz> Electrolyte: I think it is about apt preferences, there should be an option to tell apt to keep some package varsion
[12:08] <Electrolyte> No, it isn't apt doing this.
[12:08] <Electrolyte> It's only dpkg.
[12:08] <Electrolyte> I removed k3d, yet dpkg doesn't get it.
[12:08] <robajz> Electrolyte: yes apt manages DPKG
[12:08] <alex_> how to install audio codecs like mp3 wma ...
[12:09] <apokryphos> alex_: read the FAQ
[12:09] <apokryphos> !faq
[12:09] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[12:09] <houssem> pielgrzym: no i can't start it from a console
[12:09] <robajz> Electrolyte: you removed it by "apt-get remove k3d"?
[12:09] <Electrolyte> Yes.
[12:09] <houssem> pielgrzym: "This Application has Unexpectedly Quit: Invocation of this Java Application has caused an InvocationTargetException. This application will now exit. (LAX)"
[12:09] <Electrolyte> But it still tries to update it :/
[12:09] <pielgrzym> robajz: it didn't help
[12:09] <apokryphos> Electrolyte: try some of dpkg's force remove options: man dpkg
[12:10] <pielgrzym> houssem: hm, that's odd - did you install it using a deb package?
[12:10] <robajz> Electrolyte: or "apt-get remove k3d --purge"?
[12:10] <houssem> pielgrzym: no
[12:10] <houssem> pielgrzym: it's an archive
[12:10] <robajz> pielgrzym: has the locale output changed?
[12:11] <Electrolyte> robajz:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[12:11] <Electrolyte> That's what I get all the time.
[12:11] <Electrolyte> It is k3d.
[12:11] <robajz> Electrolyte: then you've got some error in dpkg db
[12:11] <apokryphos> !info k3d
[12:11] <Electrolyte> If I could find the postbit link I would post the entire error.
[12:11] <ubotu> k3d: 3D modeling and animation system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0.35-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 9344 kB, installed size 41844 kB
[12:11] <robajz> Electrolyte: try apt-get install -f
[12:11] <apokryphos> I see
[12:12] <Electrolyte> Same error robajz.
[12:12] <pielgrzym> robajz: it's clean now
[12:12] <Electrolyte> What's the link to postbit or what ever it was called?
[12:12] <Electrolyte> I'll upload the entire error.
[12:12] <pielgrzym> robajz: but the locale is still mixed :(
[12:13] <houssem> pielgrzym: it's an archive
[12:13] <eilker> robajz: hi kubuntu here, i am ircmokeyx
[12:13] <robajz> pielgrzym: did you just restart X or reboot? this is strange :) and the empty profile now?
[12:13] <pielgrzym> it's a java app?
[12:13] <pielgrzym> I rebooted
[12:14] <pielgrzym> I don't want to run another profile, because it crashes my display :(
[12:14] <robajz> eilker: how are you doing?
[12:14] <houssem> !owner
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about owner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <houssem> !chown
[12:15] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:15] <eilker> robajz: i installed kubuntu without any problem, but now, it doesnt see my windows drives c and d, what should i do to see windows drives from kubuntu
[12:15] <Electrolyte> robaj: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28829/
[12:15] <Electrolyte> robajz*
[12:16] <Electrolyte> I'll brb, lunch :/
[12:16] <BlueEagle> Hi all. I am currently attempting to set up kubuntu edgy, but I am unable to edit the partition table manually as the partitioning program doesn't start on step 5 of 6. This is the same problem that I had when setting up Kubuntu dapper. Anyone got a pointer to a work-around for this?
[12:16] <robajz> eilker: run kcontrol, there is disk management I think
[12:20] <robajz> Electrolyte: bad thing, something with the python? try aptitude and its solutions
[12:20] <Electrolyte> aptitude?
[12:20] <robajz> yes it is a command line app
[12:21] <robajz> I use it whenever ther is a problem with dependencies
[12:22] <robajz> eilker: have you managed it?
[12:23] <eilker> robajz: yes sir, now trying with amarok
[12:23] <eilker> robajz: i cant listen to mp3, should i do sth to listen to mp3? i controlled voice, it is ok in system
[12:23] <BlueEagle> Sooo.. noen of you hasn't encountered a crashing qparted during installation? Could it be a locale problem as I chose norwegian as my locale?
[12:24] <BlueEagle> none*
[12:24] <buz> !RestrictedFormats
[12:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:24] <buz> this will explain how to listen to mp3
[12:24] <Electrolyte> robajz: I don't understand how I'm supposed to use aptitude to remove the broken k3d package.
[12:25] <robajz> Electrolyte: It will tell you the most about what's going on
[12:25] <robajz> eilker: yes the restricted formats
[12:25] <ubuntu__> hello
[12:26] <kili> My kubuntu suddenly won't boot
[12:26] <robajz> try to find k3d package in aptitude, install it, remove it...
[12:26] <robajz> Electrolyte: look at dependencies then... errors displayed
[12:27] <eilker> robajz: what should install k3d ?
[12:27] <robajz> eilker: I'm sorry, that was for Electrolyte
[12:27] <eilker> ohh:)
[12:28] <Electrolyte> robajz: It says it's already installed.
[12:28] <Electrolyte> But aqsis (UNSATISFIED) is in red.
[12:28] <robajz> there should be force switch or so...
[12:28] <robajz> to Electrolyte
[12:29] <kili> kernel 2.6.17-10, if I use safemode (or whatever it's called), it ends with last message: Setting input device: PC Speaker (/dev/input/input1) (I should have written it down, I guess)
[12:29] <kili> the same kernel worked before
[12:29] <robajz> Electrolyte: there are solutions on the bottom, try , . e
[12:29] <BlueEagle> The output I get in syslog when qparted crashes is http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/226177 It seems that NTFS is not supported. Now I do have some NTFS partitions, but I'm not going to do anything about them as I have got ext3 and reiserfs partitions also set up.
[12:30] <kili> earlier kernel 2.6.17-10 ends at hardware detection, 2.6.15-27 shows just blank screen
[12:30] <robajz> Electrolyte: aptitude will suggest romovals, and so
[12:30] <Electrolyte> There's loads of packages to be installed :/
[12:30] <Electrolyte> 1 install, 23 keeps, 2 downgrades.
[12:30] <kili> sorry - earlier is 2.6.15-26
[12:30] <robajz> Electrolyte: look into it by "e"
[12:31] <Electrolyte> I am.
[12:31] <Electrolyte> It wants to install xorg :S
[12:31] <robajz> Electrolyte: what will be installed and what downgraded?
[12:31] <kili> all the kernels worked before
[12:31] <Electrolyte> Install xorg, downgrade libglul-mesa and mesa-common-dev
[12:32] <robajz> Electrolyte: I'd accept it
[12:32] <Electrolyte> So ! then?
[12:32] <robajz> yes
[12:32] <robajz> Electrolyte: then g
[12:34] <kili> does anyone know how to debug it?
[12:35] <franz> (newbie question) hello :-) how can i install java 1.4.2 in my kubuntu?
[12:35] <robajz> franz: I think this is in the FAQ
[12:36] <twosouls82> !search java
[12:36] <ubotu> Found: javappc,sunjava,multijava,javadebs,azureus,limewire,flash64bit,java,torrent
[12:36] <twosouls82> !sunjava
[12:36] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:36] <franz> i see :) thanks robajz :-) sorry for not noticing that faq earlier :-)
[12:36] <franz> thanks twosouls82 :-)
[12:36] <tearran> yay was here for same reason ty
[12:36] <twosouls82> np :)
[12:36] <Electrolyte> robajz: Done, for some reason it removed more and install beryl/emerald :/
[12:37] <Electrolyte> k3d is still broken though.
[12:37] <robajz> if you try "apt-get install -f" again?
[12:38] <Electrolyte> Same error.
[12:38] <robajz> haven't you modified apt sources?
[12:39] <Electrolyte> Only multiverse and universe.
[12:39] <Electrolyte> And I have a feeling restarting X is going to screw my system up after what it installed :/
[12:39] <dapper-daniel> Hi! I have an problem after updating to edgy
[12:39] <dapper-daniel> kde does not want to mount my usb sticks anymore
[12:39] <twosouls82> can all "/var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15*" files be deleted now I run Edgy? I assume yes, but have been told not to assume :P
[12:39] <twosouls82> ?
[12:40] <robajz> Electrolyte: Well, you'll have to ask another apt/dpkg expert, I'm out of advices :(
[12:40] <Electrolyte> Gonna log out then back in to see if xorg crashed after the stuff was installed - brb.
[12:40] <dapper-daniel> I get this error message:
[12:40] <dapper-daniel> Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[12:42] <Electrolyte> Good, xorg didn't break.
[12:43] <robajz> Electrolyte: great! :)
[12:44] <eilker> friends what should i do to listen to mp3?
[12:45] <hume> i have a korganizer-calendar that I synchronize between two computers and with a palm. When displayed on one of the computers, all events are offset two hours. On the other computer it is not so. But since it is synced the file must be identitcal (or??). Any ideas on what settings this might concern?
[12:46] <flo_> different timezones on the pc's ?
[12:47] <robajz> eilker: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:47] <morbid88> okay, I need help with the upgrade to Kubuntu 6.10. I tried following the steps for an upgrade from 6.06, but now I'm stuck with a command prompt apt-get cannot configure acpid.
[12:47] <morbid88> er... HELP?
[12:47] <eilker> robajz: thanks sir
[12:47] <yacoob> hm, help.
[12:48] <yacoob> which package holds the fglrx kernel driver?
[12:48] <twosouls82> is there a fix for the ***stack smashing*** but of Firefox yet?
[12:48] <twosouls82> s/but/bug/
[12:48] <robajz> eilker: :)
[12:49] <robajz> bye
[12:49] <kevin> Hi all!
[12:50] <wk_> hello, does the radeon driver support the ati mobility radeon 9000 (M9)
[12:51] <morbid88> hi guys. Can anyone help me resolve an upgrade problem? acpid won't update and now all I have is a command line.
[12:52] <eilker> robajz: going ? if so bye:)
[12:52] <serenity> cpk2: have you any experience re group booting from a wirefire HDD?
[12:53] <serenity> by the way, its me *jende* ;-)
[12:53] <hume> flo_, sorry, didnt see your post earlier: no, set to Sweden both, in KDE, but are there other places to check?
[12:54] <mock> hi
[12:55] <Johnsandman> hmmm the dutch ubuntu archive is not working properly I changed it to be "belgium" and I can download everything so nl has something strange there
[12:55] <mock> the source.list of the unstable version of edgy is different of the stable version?
[12:56] <Johnsandman> I have the stable one
[12:56] <morbid88> I think I'm lagging
[12:57] <anders__> ad
[12:57] <anders__> a
[12:57] <anders__> ad
[12:58] <morbid88> hi guys. I'm trying this again 'cos I have network problems. Can someone help me set up acpid manually? it won't update with the 6.10 upgrade.
[01:02] <|lostbyte|> What does "The following packages have been kept back:" mean ?
[01:02] <wimpies> For some odd reason my GL screensaver no longer work.  glxgears does work so I presume that opengl is active on my card
[01:03] <wimpies> lostbyte : were not installed but were available but depend on packages that are not to be installed
[01:03] <RogueJediX> Hey. I seem to have accidentally set my keyboard layout to another locale. How do I change it?
[01:03] <hume> any other ideas on what might cause my calendars to dispaly differnet times?
[01:03] <wimpies> system settings ?
[01:03] <wimpies> hume : timezone ?
[01:04] <|lostbyte|> ok
[01:04] <morbid88> can anyone help me? I can't seem to upgrade to 6.10, and I'm stuck with a command line 'cos acpid won't configure.
[01:04] <RogueJediX> wimpies: KDE detected it properly, but when I type stuff in console pushing the arrow keys gives out characters ABC and D
[01:05] <hume> wimpies, you mean kde system settings?
[01:05] <wimpies> hume : yes
[01:05] <RogueJediX> Or were you not talking to me? In which case: whoops, sorry.
[01:05] <wimpies> rogejedix : ah console ... you  mean konsole or the character based console?
[01:06] <RogueJediX> wimpies: konsole
[01:06] <sredna> Where in the KDE menu is KMail (kubuntu edgy)??
[01:06] <hume> wimpies, but where is time zone setting? country and region setting?
[01:06] <wimpies> hume : click right on you clock application  (if you have it as an applet in your panel)
[01:07] <wimpies> sredna : try using kontact
[01:07] <sredna> wimpies: No way :-)
[01:07] <hume> wimpies, set to local there, that is Eorope/ Stockholm same as the palm and the other computer
[01:07] <sredna> I have it running, I just wonder why it's not in the Internet menu
[01:07] <wimpies> kmail is plugin in kontact
[01:07] <twosouls82> hume: use the search field in kcontrol to find (systemsettings) modules
[01:08] <sredna> wimpies: I know, I just dislike kontact, or rather, I prefer running the applications seperately
[01:08] <twosouls82> :\
[01:08] <wimpies> roguejedix : only in konsole you have problems with you arrow keys ? only with arrow keys or also with home
[01:09] <wimpies> perhaps you need to add kmail by hand to the menu ...
[01:09] <RogueJediX> wimpies: Home gives me the letter H
[01:09] <sredna> wimpies: ... which is a bit odd :)
[01:09] <hume> wimpies, find only that it is the same region set on both computers
[01:09] <wimpies> sredna : it might have been judged obsolete or perhaps just an omission
[01:10] <sredna> Hm, korganizer is hidden too
[01:10] <wimpies> roguejedix : in settings my keyboard is set to xfree 4.3x
[01:11] <sredna> But some apps that are in kontact are present, ie akregator
[01:11] <wimpies> sredna : if you start kontact and close the sidebare there is no different with kmail
[01:11] <wimpies> hume : if you run date on both systems in a konsole ... are they the same ?
[01:11] <RogueJediX> wimpies: Same here. XFree 4.x.x
[01:11] <sredna> wimpies: Yes there is, even if not a visible difference.
[01:12] <wimpies> sredna : which is because I just ran kmail by hand and see not difference
[01:13] <hume> wimpies, well, 6 min difference, otherwise identitcal
[01:13] <wimpies> calendar has a timezone option too ... perhaps that is wrong ?
[01:13] <hume> korganizer?
[01:14] <hume> if i open the time-settings in korganizer i just come to the same kde settings..?
[01:16] <wimpies> have you perhaps changed the timezone and 'moved' the times ?
[01:16] <sredna> Well, I'll try kontact for a while, afterall it's been a while since I did that last
[01:16] <sheft> Hi, is AIGLX included in Kubuntu edgy like it is in Ubuntu edgy?
[01:17] <_vge> yes
[01:17] <sheft> Where can I read on how to enable it?
[01:17] <_vge> it's enabled by defaul as far as i know
[01:18] <sheft> _vge: not for me...
[01:18] <sheft> i upgraded from 6.06
[01:19] <_vge> what are you trying to do?
[01:19] <_vge> and so did i
[01:20] <sheft> i want aiglx :)
[01:20] <sheft> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To-Xypt9RCc
[01:20] <sheft> that
[01:20] <sheft> my window behaivour aint like that
[01:21] <Felix18> Hi
[01:21] <sheft> and I cant rotate my desktops like he does in the video.
[01:21] <Felix18> wie kann ich den unter Ubuntu Firefox 2.0 installieren?
[01:21] <Felix18> (edgy)
[01:21] <twosouls82> Felix18: English bitte, our German isn't that good
[01:22] <Felix18> oh how to install firefox 2.0 under edgy?
[01:22] <Felix18> is an apt-get install firefox enough?
[01:22] <_vge> sheft: it's beryl/composite over the aigxl, basically you just need beryl paggage
[01:22] <twosouls82> Felix18: as far as I can tell it has a bug in it, and isn't installable
[01:22] <_vge> try apt-get install beryl
[01:22] <RogueJediX> Is there a console command that lets you choose a keyboard layout from a list or something?
[01:22] <rikai> I REALLY wish there was a firfox 1.5 or 2.0 compatible version of this firefox skin... ~.~;
[01:22] <twosouls82> Felix18: normally that would be sufficient
[01:23] <Felix18> ok
[01:23] <Felix18> thx
[01:23] <twosouls82> est tut mir leit
[01:23] <twosouls82> :)
[01:23] <sheft> _vge:  do i just do sudo apt-get  install beryl
[01:23] <_vge> ya, it can do some of the things that compix can, but not all
[01:24] <_vge> but it's n+1 times easier to install  ;)
[01:24] <sheft> _vge: ok, ill sudo apt-get it
[01:24] <_vge> wait
[01:24] <_vge> you need to add a repo
[01:24] <_vge> lemme check it
 firefox kommt dem ubuntu 6.10
[01:24] <sheft> ok
[01:25] <vyoman> einfach adep manager und firfox in den filter eingeben
[01:25] <_vge> sheft: deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main-edgy
[01:25] <Jucato> !de
[01:25] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:25] <_vge> add that to your sources list, do update and then install the beryl paggage
[01:26] <_vge> more help you can get at #beryl channel
[01:26] <houssem> houcem
[01:26] <ubuntu_> hello
[01:26] <ubuntu_> I have a question
[01:27] <ubuntu_> im trying to install kubntu on a newly made partition, does it have to be FAT32 or can it be NTFS ?
[01:27] <_vge> ubuntu_: make it ext3
 what about japanese users?
[01:27] <Jucato> ubuntu_: neither. it must be ext3 or something Linux-compatible
[01:28] <ubuntu_> oh
[01:28] <Jucato> ubuntu_: I mean one of the Linux filesystems
[01:28] <ubuntu_> I created the partition in windows XP because when I open the kubnut install and press manually edit parition table then the table is empty and I cant change anything
[01:29] <xsacha> you can create the partition on the kubuntu live cd
[01:29] <ubuntu_> I should be able to create it but I cant
[01:29] <xsacha> using a variety of programs like some variation of parted, or fdisk..
[01:29] <xsacha> but the windows ones wont work
[01:30] <houssem> i've upgraded from dapper to edgy and now getting xserver not to work, when doing apt-get upgrade and also dist-upgrade, it says that it kept the xserver* packages and it wont upgrade it,what do you suggest medoing ?
[01:30] <xsacha> try to boot up livecd and look at qtparted or some other programs that write to partition table
[01:30] <ubuntu_> im on the live cd at the moment
[01:30] <ubuntu_> I just found the QTparted
[01:30] <xsacha> good
[01:30] <ubuntu_> I will try to see what I can do :P
[01:32] <ubuntu_> qtparted doesnt seem to work properly, while it scans my partitions it crashes :o
[01:32] <twosouls82> !whatis beryl
[01:32] <twosouls82> !search what
[01:32] <ubotu> Found: usernames,doesn't work,edgyfinal,banned,what,katapult,version,kdesu,equivalents,password
[01:33] <twosouls82> :\
[01:33] <twosouls82> !what
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <twosouls82> !what beryl
[01:33] <Jucato> !botabuse
[01:33] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[01:34] <ubuntu_> i'll go check if I can do anything on XP or not
[01:34] <ubuntu_> be back soon
[01:34] <twosouls82> :D
[01:34] <twosouls82> sorry, my bad
[01:34] <twosouls82> thanks Jucato, I will keep that one in mind
[01:35] <Jucato> :P
[01:35] <Jucato> no harm done.
[01:37] <twosouls82> Jucato: I found out what it is, but it doesn't seem to use xgl, does it?
[01:38] <houssem> $this->sms_mo->setErreur(47);
[01:38] <houssem> 				$this->sms_mo->setWsStatus(1);
[01:39] <Jucato> twosouls82: it does. beryl is just a fork of compiz
[01:39] <houssem>  i've upgraded from dapper to edgy and now getting xserver not to work, when doing apt-get upgrade and also dist-upgrade, it says that it kept the xserver* packages and it wont upgrade it,what do you suggest medoing ?
[01:39] <twosouls82> Jucato: installing it doesn't have xgl as a dependidy, that's why the confusion and question
[01:40] <Jucato> ah
[01:40] <twosouls82> but it should?
[01:40] <twosouls82> thanks again
[01:41] <Jucato> I think it should
[01:41] <twosouls82> Jucato: "a combined window manager and compositing manager that runs on top of Xgl", so you're right.. how odd
[01:44] <ubuntu_> I deleted my partition so now I have 6gb unallocted drive space
[01:44] <ubuntu_> but qtparted still crashes
[01:45] <BlueEagle> ubuntu_: Good thing I'm not the only one suffering from that. Well it's a slight comfort anyways. First off: Are you using a serial ata disk? (sata)
[01:46] <ubuntu_> yes I have a sata disk
[01:46] <BlueEagle> ubuntu_: Ok. Now, after clearing the 6GB of space have you still got partitions on that disk?
[01:47] <ubuntu_> yes, I have 10hb partition for xp, and 130gb partition for just stuff and 6gb unallocted
[01:47] <ubuntu_> 10gb*
[01:47] <BlueEagle> ubuntu_: Are any of those partitions logical partitions or are they just primary partitions?
[01:47] <ubuntu_> xp partition is primary, other should be logical
[01:48] <BluesKaj> ubuntu_, have you tried Gparted ...it's abit more forgiving and stable from most reports
[01:48] <Zarephath> Hi everyone...I am having problems with SystemSettings network sharing...I want to add a share and put it in Admin mode...but everyting is greyed out and I can't select the add button or anything else for that matter?
[01:48] <houssem>  i've upgraded from dapper to edgy and now getting xserver not to work, when doing apt-get upgrade and also dist-upgrade, it says that it kept the xserver* packages and it wont upgrade it,what do you suggest medoing ?
[01:48] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: is gparted on the live cd?
[01:48] <ubuntu_> there is gtparted
[01:48] <ubuntu_> but it doesnt work
[01:48] <BlueEagle> error message?
[01:48] <BluesKaj> yes bluea , i use it
[01:48] <BluesKaj> blueagle
[01:48] <ubuntu_> no it scans my partitions and at 50% it just shuts down
[01:48] <Zarephath> houssem: You could look for the force option when doing dist-upgrade
[01:49] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: Well that could have keept me from having to boot windows and installing pqamgic. :)
[01:49] <lupine_85> sudo fdisk -l (that's L) will give you a proper look at the partition table p:)
[01:49] <ubuntu_> is sudo fdisk on the live cd?
[01:49] <BluesKaj> partiton magic can kill a hard drive ...gotta be real careful with it
[01:50] <pielgrzym> which command opens the nifty kubuntu system settings dialog?
[01:50] <xsacha> ubuntu_ did you RESIZE your ntfs partition?
[01:50] <ubuntu_> yes
[01:50] <houssem> Zarephath: please can you give more explication ?
[01:50] <xsacha> oh god
[01:50] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: I know that. However it did correctly detect the error generated by *nix fdisk when re-arranging the partition table and wrongly truncating the extended partition so that there were free (and unusable) space after it.
[01:51] <ubuntu_> thats bad?
[01:51] <BluesKaj> yeah BlueEagle, Gparted will help you get that space back ...that also happen to me
[01:51] <Zarephath> houssem: Yes read the man page for apt-get dist-upgrade...there should be an option switch that will let you 'force' the xserver install...also you could join #ubuntu+1 and ask the people involved with edgy
[01:52] <BluesKaj> err happened
[01:52] <twosouls82> beryl looks nice, and all the bugs of xgl seem to be gone :)
[01:52] <Zarephath> No kde gurus in here huh?
[01:52] <ccc> pielgrzym: systemsettings
[01:52] <ubuntu_> xsacha why did you say oh god, did I do something wrong?
[01:53] <pielgrzym> ccc: thanks a lot :)
[01:53] <yhcir> i just installed ubuntu edgy, and i want to have kde and gnome both installed. So i did aptitude kde-desktop and kde works fine, however some of my windows (firefox for example) looke lik they are running in gnome
[01:53] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: Well I'm in the midst of moving two ext3 partitions so that kubuntu can "use unallocated space". That should get the installer running.
[01:54] <ccc> yhcir: well, firefox is a gtk app
[01:54] <xsacha> ubuntu_: does your windows still boot?
[01:54] <ubuntu_> yes it does
[01:54] <ubuntu_> I didnt touch the partition where my XP is
[01:54] <BluesKaj> BlueEagle, save one ext3 for swap ...between 500mb and 1G if you can
[01:55] <ubuntu_> I had 2 partitions, one for xp and other for my stuff, then I took 5gb out of the stuff partition
[01:55] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: I have already got swap set up.
[01:55] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: However I did notice that kununtu installer made a swap partition anyways.
[01:55] <BluesKaj> ok , merge the 2 ext3 then
[01:55] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: Why would I want to do that?
[01:56] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: I've got one for music/media and one for /home
[01:56] <ubuntu_> The partition tables of the following devices are changed:
[01:56] <ubuntu_> SCSI2 (0,0,0) (sda)
[01:56] <ubuntu_> The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[01:56] <ubuntu_> partition #6 of SCSI2 (0,0,0) (sda) as swap
[01:56] <ubuntu_> partition #3 of SCSI2 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext3
[01:56] <Zarephath> Yes but you are talking about a mount path versus and actual disk partition
[01:56] <ubuntu_> can someone translate this?
[01:56] <BluesKaj> ok , then if yer happy with that , NP :)
[01:57] <Zarephath> You can just as easily create those mount points on the same partition
[01:58] <BlueEagle> ubuntu_: I thought you had only three partitions and the 6gb of unallocated space...
[01:58] <ubuntu_> I have 2 partitions now and 6gb of unallocted
[01:58] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: You have a device named sda and it is going to make a swap partition on #6 and a ext3 filesystem partition on partiton #3
[01:58] <eilker> hi people, how can i add to panel "show desktop button" ???
[01:58] <Zarephath> However you may have data on those partitions...we don't know
[01:59] <ubuntu_> I dont want to loose any data
[01:59] <BluesKaj> the fewer partitions the better was advice given to me by an old pc guru ...this business of seperate partitins for various uses holds no advantages unless it's for security purposes
[01:59] <ubuntu_> thats why I asked
[01:59] <pielgrzym> is there a way to search translations in launchpad??
[01:59] <ubuntu_> I dont know hich partitions are #6 and #3
[01:59] <ubuntu_> which
[02:00] <BlueEagle> that's the 23gb partition moved... only one to go... :)
[02:00] <ubuntu_> I dont know what should I do, I have 2 partitions with stuff I need and 6b of unallocted for linux, but I dont know how can I get linux on it
[02:00] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: Ok the best thing to do is boot back into windows...right click the computer icon
[02:01] <Zarephath> then select manage
[02:01] <Zarephath> go to disk management..then you can see the descriptive name of the partition and the partition number
[02:01] <pielgrzym> is there a way to search translations in launchpad??
[02:01] <mainali> can someone please tell me how can i remove the bouncing cursor thing? I just can't find the option
[02:01] <DeadSouL> How to connect WPA protected wireless networkWireless assistant only supports WEP protected networks...
[02:01] <DeadSouL> How to connect WPA protected wireless network?* Wireless assistant only supports WEP protected networks...
[02:02] <ubuntu_> ok zarephath I will go and try to get smarter :P
[02:02] <BluesKaj> ubuntu_, I recommend Gparted for assigning the 6mb partition ext3 (Linux) status
[02:02] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: This is only good for knowing what the windows partitions are...if you have linux partitions they will show up with size..but you won't know what is what
[02:02] <mainali> someone, please, help :-(
[02:02] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: Not and issue of smarter...is an issue of being more educated...don't be so rough on yourself...
[02:02] <ubuntu_> I would try to use gtparted but when it scans for partitions it at 50% it just closes
[02:03] <BluesKaj> mainali, just ask your question
[02:03] <yhcir> is there any way i can make firefox look nice under kde? it seems to have thick black lines around toolbars and stuff
[02:03] <mainali> how can i remove the bouncing cursor thing?
[02:03] <ubuntu_> be back soon, I will go under xp
[02:04] <mainali> BluesKaj: i know it's somewhere in kde settings, but i just can't turn off the bouncing cursor notification
[02:04] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: I have been following your conversation somewhat...not completely...however before you go resizing anything you need to be aware where you are able to safely make the space for ubuntu/kubuntu :-)
[02:04] <BlueEagle> mainali: It should stop bouncing by itself after a while. If you want to disable it completely I think I saw an option for that in the control panel.
[02:05] <mainali> BlueEagle: yes, I want to turn it off completely, but i can't find the option anywhere in control panel :-(
[02:05] <Jucato> mainali: Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol"
[02:05] <BlueEagle> mainali: Well I'll have to finish off moving this 2nd partition and then reinstall kubuntu then I can see if I can find it. In the mean time you might want to google it. :)
[02:05] <Zarephath> mainali: systemsettings -->panel --> launch feedback
[02:06] <mainali> :-)
[02:06] <BlueEagle> ...or do as zarephath sais because he's already found it. :)
[02:06] <Jucato> Zarephath: are you on Dapper?
[02:06] <BluesKaj> mainali, sorry i can't find it either
[02:07] <Zarephath> Jucato: Yes...however it is PPC(Apple Mac)
[02:07] <Jucato> mainali: are you on Dapper or on Edgy?
[02:07] <Jucato> Zarephath: ah I was just wondering. is Launch Feedback in Dapper's System Settings?
[02:07] <mainali> Jucato: I'm on edgy
[02:07] <Jucato> mainali: ah so you need KControl to set the Launch Feedback settings (that bouncy cursor)
[02:07] <Zarephath> Jucato: wait one
[02:08] <Jucato> Zarephath: thanks :)
[02:08] <mainali> Jucato: Thanks!!
[02:09] <wassup> yo, wassup
[02:09] <wassup> I have a Q:
[02:09] <wassup> what program needed to do screenshots and screencasts
[02:09] <wassup> ?
[02:10] <wassup> on linux
[02:10] <Zarephath> Jucato: Yep...it is there..open system settings, then click the panel icon..and it has launch feedback in there as an option
[02:10] <momal> any one have an suggestions on a good basic video editor mainly just to spilt videos and put videos together and maybe few little effects... but able to open and encode pretty much any format
[02:10] <Jucato> wassup: screenshots = ksnapshot (already installed)
[02:10] <Jucato> Zarephath: thanks
[02:10] <wassup> thanks
[02:10] <Zarephath> Jucato: NP
[02:10] <wassup> and screencasts?
[02:10] <Jucato> wassup: there's anapp called Screenkast. you might want to look into that
[02:10] <Jucato> there's another screencast app, I'm not sure of the name, though
[02:11] <Zarephath> momal: Only check out doom9.org they should have some stuff listed...as well try videohelp.com I believe...they have a page with just different programs that will allow you to do what you need..both windows linux and macintosh
[02:11] <momal> thanks :)
[02:11] <Zarephath> NP
[02:12] <Zarephath> momal: http://www.videohelp.com/tools
[02:13] <momal> thanks ^_-
[02:14] <Zarephath> momal: Yep a kewl site...even has hardware reviews for players and a ton of howto's...heh
[02:15] <Zarephath> bummer...I seem to be able and answer other peoples questions...but no my own.. :-(
[02:15] <BluesKaj> adept is stuck waiting for headers now for 10 mins ...are the Edgy sources changed or broken ?
[02:15] <alitis4> hello, in kubuntu 6.10 edgy, has bluettoth support?
[02:16] <jerre>  i download edy today,is it possible to upgrade to edgy from dapper with the help of the cdrom
[02:16] <Zarephath> BluesKaj: Sometimes it can vary...if it isn't working right then that may very well be the issue..
[02:16] <zsolt> speak hungarian anybody?
[02:16] <BluesKaj> Zarephath, :) maybe you can answer this one ...since i updated kde my screensaver and my network printer stopped working
[02:16] <Zarephath> alitis4: I do believe
[02:17] <alitis4> i will first use kubuntu in my life
[02:17] <alitis4> hehehe
[02:17] <Zarephath> BluesKaj: Hmm...not sure..can you still access it in sytemsettings?
[02:17] <alitis4> my other pc stuck on hotplug enable on slack
[02:18] <esaym> you can upgrade to edgy from the cdrom yes
[02:18] <jerre> @esaym  would u please tell me the steps
[02:18] <Zarephath> alitis4: You more than likely won't see that happen with kubuntu...it does have an option under system settings in kde..I would assume you need to install the packages that enable bluetooth
[02:18] <esaym> one sec
[02:19] <Zarephath> esaym: Only if you download the disk(s)
[02:19] <esaym> its down at the bottom of the page: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[02:20] <esaym> Upgrading from 6.06 LTS If you have a Kubuntu 6.10 CD, put it in the drive, and run apt-cdrom from the command line. Then follow the instructions above.
[02:20] <BluesKaj> Zarephath, screensaver works perfectly in the "test" . it shutsoff the desktop in the set time but doesn't access the pictures folder that i've assigned
[02:20] <Jucato> *Alternate Install CD only*
[02:20] <Zarephath> esaym: Kewl..didn't see that...
[02:20] <esaym> alternate install cd only though??
[02:21] <Jucato> esaym: yes. you can't use the Desktop CD as a repository
[02:21] <esaym> oh, thanks ;)
[02:21] <Zarephath> BluesKaj: In that case I would think it is something that is broke in edgy for the time being..I don't know what file to edit to check it out...look in your home folder using a term and go to the hidden .kde folder and look around...you might find the confi file there..
[02:22] <Zarephath> *config*
[02:22] <zsolt> Hi. I don't speak english, but a bit. I have a notebook with intel 915/910GML video-chipset.... I use the new 6.10 kubuntu. The GL, 3D is not good, my computer, and the graphics is very slow. What the problem? (Who answer for me, try to be simple, because i don't understand, please. thx.)
[02:22] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: How did you make out?
[02:22] <ubuntu_> im even more confused
[02:22] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: Because?
[02:23] <ubuntu_> I kinda created a new partition out of that unallocated space, I made a new ext3 primary partition
[02:23] <ubuntu_> but the kubuntu installer has the same problem as qtparted , they both crash while scanning partitions
[02:23] <ubuntu_> so I cant change my partition table in linux
[02:24] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: Ok did you create a swap too? You have to have at least a swap parition and the partition to install to
[02:24] <ubuntu_> yes I created swap
[02:24] <ubuntu_> 500mb
[02:25] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: The only thing you can do is drop back to command line and use fdisk...be warned if you delete the wrong partitions here you will kill your windows stuff potentially
[02:25] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: I think you were saying the drive is sda?
[02:25] <ubuntu_> yes
[02:25] <Zarephath> and is it a firewire drive?
[02:25] <ubuntu_> umm, dont know
[02:25] <esaym> yea try fdisk to get you basic partition table down
[02:26] <ubuntu_> I dont feel at home in linux, how do I get that fdisk thing open?
[02:26] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: Is it a hard drive installed in the computer? Or attached via firewire connection as a external hard drive?
[02:26] <ubuntu_> it's inside the computer
[02:26] <ubuntu_> so I guess its not firewire
[02:27] <Zarephath> Ok..more than likey a real scsi drive then...which is good ;-)
[02:27] <Zarephath> what you will need to do is to ( I assume you are booting to ubuntu live cd)..then when it is booted up open a term
[02:28] <ubuntu_> I have the terminal open
[02:28] <DeadSouL> How to connect WPA protected wireless network? Wireless assistant only supports WEP protected networks...
[02:28] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: then type fdisk /dev/sda
[02:28] <BluesKaj> WEP is smore secure isn 't it ?
[02:28] <DeadSouL> How to open wpasupplicant program on Kubuntu
[02:28] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: private chat me so we can do this without flooding the main channel here..ok?
[02:28] <DeadSouL> BluesKaj: As I know WPA is more secure
[02:29] <Zarephath> DeadSoul: You need to install the gui for wpa_supplicant
[02:29] <ubuntu_> rivate messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! (
[02:29] <BluesKaj> ok DeadSouL
[02:29] <DeadSouL> Zarephath it is installed but how can I open it?
[02:29] <Zarephath> I should be registered
[02:29] <ubuntu_> but im not :P
[02:29] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: just  a sec
[02:29] <ubuntu_> oki
[02:30] <Zarephath> DeadSoul: I don't remember the name off the top of my head..but from term you can run it... I think in /usr/sbin
[02:30] <Zarephath> gui_supplicant or something like that
[02:30] <DeadSouL> Ok thanks Zarepheth
[02:31] <Dr_willis> hmmm
[02:32] <ubuntu_> zarephath I can see your message but I cant send one by myself
[02:32] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: I need to help you register first
[02:33] <ubuntu_> would be nice :)
[02:34] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: You need to go to the freenode window..and type /msg nickserv register ubuntu_ <password> I think that was it..
[02:34] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: I'm unable to find gparted on the livecd. It's not in the path and which gparted doesn't list it either.
[02:34] <BluesKaj> google it
[02:35] <Dr_willis> I normally keep a spare copy of that "Parted live cd" - check disrtowatch. :)
[02:35] <Zarephath> ubuntu_: Talk to me?
[02:36] <ubuntu_> give me a sec, someone already registred ubuntu_
[02:36] <Zarephath> arty_: Ok
[02:38] <Dr_willis> Heh
[02:38] <Jucato> anyone else here have any problems building the KDE Help Center Applications index?
[02:38] <DarkWizzard> hello all
[02:39] <DarkWizzard> I upgraded to edgy
[02:39] <BlueEagle> darkwizzard: grats
[02:39] <DarkWizzard> and the only styles I have
[02:39] <DarkWizzard> are old
[02:39] <Jucato> welcome to the edge
[02:39] <BlueEagle> darkwizzard: oh
[02:39] <DarkWizzard> I need plastik
[02:39] <DarkWizzard> or something less ugly
[02:39] <DarkWizzard> I installed it
[02:39] <DarkWizzard> but cant see it in the menu
[02:39] <BlueEagle> !enter
[02:39] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:40] <Flosoft> hey
[02:40] <Jucato> DarkWizzard: how did you install it? Plastik should already be installed by default and is the default style used by Kubuntu
[02:40] <Flosoft> since my upgrade to eft my x won't start
[02:40] <BlueEagle> flosoft: Anything useful in the log?
[02:40] <DarkWizzard> what package is it part of
[02:40] <DarkWizzard> it didn't install
[02:41] <DarkWizzard>  if it did i cant see it there
[02:41] <Jucato> DarkWizzard: hold on
[02:41] <Flosoft> it says: The NVIDIA kernel device /dev/nvidia0 (Input / Output error).
[02:41] <Flosoft> Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
[02:41] <BlueEagle> flosoft: have you got a device called /dev/nvidia0
[02:41] <Jucato> DarkWizzard: it's part of kwin and kdelibs4c2a. where are you checking?
[02:41] <Flosoft> how can i check
[02:42] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: aptitude search xserver-xorg-driver~i
[02:42] <BlueEagle> flosoft: ls -l /dev/nvi*
[02:42] <DarkWizzard> in systemsettings -> appearance -> style
[02:42] <BluesKaj> BlueEagle, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=173828
[02:42] <Flosoft> nvidia0 and nvidiactl
[02:42] <Jucato> DarkWizzard: hm... that's strange... it should be there, in every KDE install...
[02:43] <DarkWizzard> the only ones I have are Platinum CDE Compact etc
[02:43] <DarkWizzard> and they are pretty ugly
[02:43] <Jucato> DarkWizzard: that is very strange indeed...
[02:44] <Flosoft> I configured NVIDIA driver
[02:44] <Jucato> DarkWizzard: in the meantime, you can probably install kde-style-lipstik to have something close to plastik
[02:44] <DarkWizzard> kde-style-lipstik is already the newest version.
[02:44] <DarkWizzard> but it doesn't apear there
[02:44] <GnarusLeo> a friend of mine (dunno why) did: "sudo ln -sf /bin/bash /bin/sh" and then "sudo ln -sf /bin/sh /bin/bash" ... what should he do?
[02:44] <Jucato> DarkWizzard: it means that's installed already... but strange that it doesn't appear...
[02:45] <Jucato> DarkWizzard: try running kcontrol instead of system settings. (Alt+F2, "kcontrol")
[02:45] <DarkWizzard> same
[02:45] <Jucato> tried restarting KDE?
[02:45] <DarkWizzard> yeah
[02:45] <DarkWizzard> the whole system
[02:45] <DarkWizzard> even deleted .kde
[02:45] <DarkWizzard> same thing
[02:46] <Jucato> ok... this is really weird... and I'm out of ideas.. :(
[02:46] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: still, how would that make me get around the qtparted seg fault? Which option would I choose then? I don't want kubuntu installer whiping my drive or resizing any partitions. All my partitions are set up but I can't choose which one to use for what because the installer insists on loading qtparted which miserably fails and then I get the option to try again, do it automatically (which I assume involves resize or wipe) or ...
[02:46] <BlueEagle> ... to abort the installation.
[02:46] <DarkWizzard> mee too
[02:46] <DarkWizzard> and it sucks
[02:46] <DarkWizzard> I has so many problems with this upgrad
[02:46] <DarkWizzard> e
[02:46] <rejo_> hello everybody :)
[02:46] <DarkWizzard> *had
[02:46] <Jucato> :(
[02:47] <imbrandon> GnarusLeo, "sudo ln -sf /bin/dash /bin/sh"
[02:47] <Dr_willis> !dash
[02:47] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[02:47] <Dr_willis> Hay they added a factoid!
[02:47] <imbrandon> GnarusLeo, and tell him not to messup again :)
[02:48] <Dr_willis> I feel the whole dash/bash is BS by the ubuntu devs.
[02:48] <Dr_willis> Scripts not working right? Firewire/Frostwire --> try  dpkg-reconfigure -plow dash to set up BASH as your default 'sh' shell.
[02:48] <rejo_> i have a problem with superkaramba, i try to ./configure but during this a error is arising: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found... i have already installed qt3 components (header and libraries)
[02:48] <GnarusLeo> imbrandon, ok, thanks :) That will work?
[02:48] <Dr_willis>  dpkg-reconfigure -plow dash            -- Fixes  it for ALL scripts
[02:48] <Jucato> hi imbrandon!
[02:48] <imbrandon> Dr_willis, stop speading FUD about things you do not know
[02:48] <GnarusLeo> imbrandon, ln: accessing `/bin/sh': Too many levels of symbolic links :(
[02:48] <DarkWizzard> ah I had enough for today.
[02:48] <DarkWizzard> thanks all
[02:48] <DarkWizzard> bye
[02:48] <Dr_willis> imbrandon,  which part is fud then?
[02:49] <BlueEagle> Well I'm gonna try rebooting and see if this will work. :)
[02:49] <BluesKaj> don't use the installer...burn a live gparted cd
[02:49] <BluesKaj> BlueEagle, don't use the installer...burn a live gparted cd and use that
[02:49] <imbrandon> telling people to "fix" dash when there is nothing wrong with it, and telling people that it fixes ALL scripts, why not tell them how theyr scrypts are poorly written
[02:50] <imbrandon> Dr_willis, on top of that this isnt the place for it either
[02:50] <Flosoft> anyone?
[02:50] <GnarusLeo> imbrandon, any ideas??
[02:50] <Dr_willis> imbrandon,  I feel the change is a bad thing. yet another thing i have to 'fix' for every new ubuntu.  and i will leave it at that.
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: I agree with that totally (The scripts of junk programs will never be fixed - same reason vmware still uses /proc/bus/usb - because poeple still keep on having the old way mounted
[02:51] <imbrandon> GnarusLeo, then he will have to boot from a live cd and mount the partition
[02:51] <Dr_willis> Of coruse theres always 'grandfathered' in type problems.
[02:51] <imbrandon> Dr_willis, yes leave your unfounded opinions out of support please
[02:51] <GnarusLeo> imbrandon, is there now way around this? :)
[02:52] <imbrandon> GnarusLeo, i told you boot from the live cd and mount the partition and do it from there, other than that no, no way arround it
[02:52] <imbrandon> you borked the default shell
[02:52] <Flosoft> ok ... and when I try NV: module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1)
[02:52] <Flosoft> Failed to load module "nv" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
[02:52] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: remove all of xserver-xorg-driver*
[02:52] <Flosoft> No drivers available
[02:53] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: reinstall kubuntu-desktop afterwards
[02:53] <imbrandon> heya h3sp4wn
[02:53] <Flosoft> Removing ...
[02:53] <GnarusLeo> imbrandon, ok, thanks
[02:53] <petter_> yo
[02:53] <constantine-xvi> how much would I hurt by using the dapper package for hal in edgy?
[02:54] <rejo_> Could someone help me? :)
[02:54] <Flosoft> ok ... now it simply says: No drivers available
[02:54] <Flosoft> Module does not exist
[02:55] <imbrandon> constantine-xvi, you would probably have a broken system as they are compiled with diffrent toolchains
[02:56] <Raul12> well i have a question how to install the libs the i have downloaded from external scource ?
[02:56] <constantine-xvi> ah
[02:56] <constantine-xvi> battery support in hal is broken
[02:56] <imbrandon> not only that you would have to recompile everything that also uses hal ( 3/4 or more of the system )
[02:56] <constantine-xvi> ne'er mind then
[02:56] <imbrandon> constantine-xvi, file a bug for your particular battery, works great here
[02:57] <LeeJunFan> constantine-xvi: works fine for me.
[02:57] <C-O-L-T> Hello I was just wondering that when we are going to see another LTS release like Dapper Drake or Ubuntu 6.06
[02:57] <xsacha> and here
[02:57] <C-O-L-T> Any idea
[02:57] <C-O-L-T> ?
[02:57] <constantine-xvi> do you have an acer laptop (sony battery)?
[02:57] <imbrandon> C-O-L-T, as soon as dapper reaches EOL
[02:57] <Flosoft> so what should I do?
[02:57] <xsacha> get those sony batteries replaces constantine-xvi :)
[02:57] <LeeJunFan> constantine-xvi: that probably means your sony battery is getting ready to explode  :p
[02:57] <C-O-L-T> imbrandon: what is eol?
[02:57] <imbrandon> constantine-xvi, no i have an apple laptop with a sony battery :)
[02:57] <Raul12> well i have a question how to install the libs the i have downloaded from external scource ?
[02:57] <Flosoft> nvidia and nv are not working
[02:57] <imbrandon> C-O-L-T, end of life
[02:58] <constantine-xvi> buying asbestos laptop case :)
[02:58] <C-O-L-T> imbrandon: so 3  years??????
[02:58] <imbrandon> C-O-L-T, yes , close to that
[02:58] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: hi
[02:58] <C-O-L-T> imbrandon: I thought so
[02:58] <C-O-L-T> imbrandon: thanks for info
[02:58] <imbrandon> Raul12, follow the instructions from where ever you recieved them from
[02:58] <Jucato> er... what package/settings has the "Edit as Root" service menu in Konqueror? I seem to have lost that...
[02:58] <Kiongku> yoz
[02:59] <Kiongku> hey jucato need some of ur pro advice :p
[02:59] <Jucato> Kiongku: err?
[02:59] <imbrandon> Jucato, ask tonio
[02:59] <Flosoft> nvidia has different versions: Nvidia Kernel: 1.0-7184
[02:59] <Jucato> imbrandon: ok. thanks! :)
[02:59] <Kiongku> Jucato: moved on to edgy?
[02:59] <Flosoft> X module: 1.0-8774
[02:59] <Jucato> Kiongku: yes
[02:59] <Flosoft> that is the problem with nvidia
[02:59] <Kiongku> Jucato: by apt-get update or clean?
[03:00] <Jucato> Kiongku: did both. dist-upgraded a day before release, then clean install after the release
[03:00] <BluesKaj> hi imbrandon, are the edgy 6.10 sources on regular update schedule ? ... my screensaver stopped working  , altho I was finally able to fix my network printer prob after the latest kde update
[03:00] <Kiongku> Jucato: what u mean?
[03:00] <imbrandon> BluesKaj, what ?
[03:01] <Raul12> well their is no insrtuction on how to install them
[03:01] <Raul12> ie libs file
[03:01] <Raul12> plz help
[03:01] <Jucato> Kiongku: I upgraded to Edgy before it was released. and then I made a fresh install after the release
[03:01] <imbrandon> Raul12, that is the only place you can get the instructions from as they are all 100% diffrent
[03:01] <Kiongku> Jucato: by fresh.. u mean format and then hop to it?
[03:01] <Jucato> Kiongku: yes
[03:02] <Kiongku> a lot of reconfiguring to do..
[03:02] <LeeJunFan> Raul12: how are they packaged? .tar.bz2? .tar.gz? .rpm .dpkg?
[03:02] <BluesKaj> imbrandon, some of the sources in my edgy sources list are broken or extremely slow
[03:02] <Jucato> Kiongku: not so much :)
[03:02] <Raul12> .deb
[03:02] <Kiongku> Jucato: think a simple dist upgrade can do it?
[03:02] <imbrandon> BluesKaj, ok ......... fixem
[03:02] <Jucato> Kiongku: dist-upgrade may not be as simple as you expect it to be :)
[03:02] <imbrandon> Raul12, sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[03:03] <LeeJunFan> Raul12: dpkg -i [filename]  but beware that if it overwrites a system library disaster could follow.
[03:03] <LeeJunFan> Raul12: what library is it?
[03:03] <Kiongku> yah saw the pain for those who went from breezy to dap
[03:03] <Raul12> yup
[03:03] <Raul12> lib
[03:03] <Raul12> file
[03:03] <BluesKaj> I deleted  a source that was blocking updates in adept
[03:03] <Jucato> Kiongku: even more so now, specially for those with compiz packages
[03:04] <imbrandon> BluesKaj, you probably dont have a standard sources.list that is one of the dangers with not staying with default, you have to learn those things
[03:04] <Kiongku> Jucato: ah darn it.. got so many to back up
[03:04] <Jucato> Kiongku: whether you dist-upgrade or do a clean install, you should always backup
[03:05] <Kiongku> Jucato: u forgot i'm the lazy idiot :P?.. ok doing it now
[03:05] <Jucato> :P
[03:05] <Flosoft> ok ... I got nv working
[03:05] <Flosoft> but no NVIDIA
[03:05] <_dan_> Could someone kindly point me to a repos for edgy where I can get dvddecss, codecs etc.
[03:06] <Kiongku> k dling the image first
[03:06] <LeeJunFan> !dvd
[03:06] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:06] <BluesKaj> I do have a std list that i got thru the terminal , using aptitude dist-upgrade...I had previously substituted the edgy sources from dapper
[03:06] <_dan_> Thanks LeeJunFan!
[03:06] <LeeJunFan> _dan_: you're welcome.
[03:07] <GnarusLeo> imbrandon, how would he mount the system again when on live cd?
[03:07] <bubu1uk> can any1 help me with ktorrent? get slow download speeds. with rtorrent it works fine. can't setup ktorrent properly. ports 6881 and 4444 are forwarded on my router
[03:07] <GnarusLeo> imbrandon, mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ?
[03:08] <constantine-xvi> GnarusLeo: you may want to mkdir /media/hda1 first
[03:08] <GnarusLeo> of course ..
[03:08] <GnarusLeo> but other then that that would work?
[03:08] <LeeJunFan> bubu1uk: try turning on DHT and see if that helps.
[03:08] <rejo_> yeah it works....
[03:09] <constantine-xvi> GnarusLeo: yup
[03:09] <LeeJunFan> bubu1uk: also may want to try encryption and see if that helps. Could be your ISP doing some QoS traffic control.
[03:09] <bubu1uk> LeeJunFan: did that as well. helps a bit, but not really.
[03:09] <constantine-xvi> GnarusLeo: forgot, you'll need to prefix those with sudo
[03:09] <bubu1uk> ok, will try that encryption.
[03:09] <Kiongku> Jucato: cant i keep my home directory while isntalling?
[03:09] <ashl> im trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy using a kubuntu edy cd. i've cleared my sources.list and apt-cdrom add'd in the cd but an apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't recognise the packages. is there something i'm missing?
[03:10] <Jucato> Kiongku: if it's on a separate partition? you can
[03:10] <Kiongku> Jucato: did u do it?
[03:10] <constantine-xvi> Kiongku: definitley, have done it from suse -> ubuntu -> suse
[03:10] <Jucato> Kiongku: no. beucase I had a total repartition :)
[03:10] <constantine-xvi> -> kubuntu
[03:10] <jmichaelx> i upgraded this PC to edgy yesterday, but i still have 28 packages that are being 'held back', would anyone have a suggestion as to what to do about this?
[03:10] <Jucato> total overhaul :)
[03:10] <constantine-xvi> jmichaelx: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:11] <Jucato> jmichaelx: what packages are being held back?
[03:11] <jmichaelx> constantine-xvi: that does not do it
[03:11] <Jucato> jmichaelx: I tried "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade" for the last batch of packages that were held back for me
[03:11] <imbrandon> jmichaelx, sudo apt-get install the packages that are held back
[03:11] <LeeJunFan> Kiongku: your other option for keeping  home would be to boot in rescue mode first and rm -rf all the dirs on your / except /home, then when you install don't format.
[03:11] <jmichaelx> imbrandon: one by one?
[03:11] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: Soo... how would I then go about installing kubuntu if I'm not going to use the installer?
[03:11] <constantine-xvi> jmichaelx: no, all at once
[03:11] <jmichaelx> Jucato: ok, i'll try that
[03:11] <_dan_> as far as I can see the only app on seveas repos is freenx- I need to download decss and codecs etc. .debs for Edgy for offline installation
[03:11] <imbrandon> jmichaelx, you can do tem all at once
[03:12] <Jucato> jmichaelx: if aptitude doesn't work, do what imbrandon said
[03:12] <Kiongku> LeeJunFan: so u mean i just clean my drive and keeping only my home will work?
[03:12] <imbrandon> _dan_, an http://seveas.imbrandon.com
[03:12] <jmichaelx> ok guys, thanks for the tips... i'll see what i can do here
[03:12] <LeeJunFan> Kiongku: as long as you choose not to format.
[03:13] <GnarusLeo> should I have any option on mount? When mounting the filesystem ... or would "mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1" ok?
[03:13] <Kiongku> LeeJunFan: duh for all my downloaded animes.. time to get the burner burning.. think going to test ur idea first afterwards
[03:13] <BluesKaj> BlueEagle, don't use the installer for partitioning
[03:13] <Jucato> imbrandon: that's a joint project by seveas and you?
[03:13] <LeeJunFan> Kiongku: depending on how many users you have on your system and what order you add them back in you may have some chown -R work to do later to make sure ownership is right.
[03:13] <Kiongku> Jucato: what the current kernel version of the new edgy?
[03:13] <imbrandon> Jucato, no i host it for him on that mirror
[03:13] <Kiongku> LeeJunFan: got only me on it
[03:13] <Jucato> Kiongku: 2.6.17-10-generic
[03:13] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: But how do I avoid the step that attempts to partition my drive in the installer? I get the options Resize some parititon, wipe the drive and manually set up partitions.
[03:13] <Jucato> imbrandon: ah :)
[03:14] <imbrandon> Kiongku, 2.6.17-10
[03:14] <_dan_> Thanks imbrandon! Found it now!
[03:14] <LeeJunFan> Kiongku: you don't do any mysql work do you?
[03:14] <Kiongku> nah.
[03:14] <BluesKaj> BlueEagle, what kubuntu are you in right now ?
[03:15] <GnarusLeo> how do you mount your filesystem from a boot cd? "mount -t /dev/hda1 /media/hda1" ???
[03:15] <GnarusLeo> didnt work
[03:15] <BlueEagle> now I'm in edgy as I managed to work around the issue by manually removing the partition that I wanted kubuntu installed on.
[03:15] <imbrandon> no -t
[03:15] <LeeJunFan> Kiongku: okay, I was going to suggest backing up /var, you might want to backup /etc though too.  What I do in situations like yours is to tar up etc and var to /home/etc.tar.bz2, var.tar.bz2, since you won't be erasing /home you'll have backups there - just in case.
[03:15] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: however I was using the livecd.
[03:16] <GnarusLeo> imbrandon, ok .. otherwize it just didnt go .. what do you suggest?
[03:16] <Kiongku> LeeJunFan: thx for the advice.. what i fear the most is getting my usb modem back online.. hopes its like dapper
[03:16] <imbrandon> what do you mean "just dident go"?
[03:16] <xsacha> GnarusLeo: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt; mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev; mount --bind /tmp /dev/tmp; mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc; mount -t sysfs none /sys; chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[03:16] <GnarusLeo> imbrandon, the  I just got the mount help screen ... with "mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda"
[03:16] <imbrandon> brb afk
[03:17] <jmichaelx> just to report back, aptitude dist-upgrade did the trick for me.... no packages are being held back :-D
[03:17] <GnarusLeo> xsacha, all of them?
[03:17] <xsacha> thats what i do GnarusLeo :)
[03:17] <GnarusLeo> haha! ok .. I sure hope he gets on msn so I can help him from there :P
[03:17] <Kiongku> is edgy still using kde 3.5?
[03:17] <GnarusLeo> So I dont have to take all that from telephone :P
[03:17] <jmichaelx> Kiongku: yes
[03:17] <xsacha> GnarusLeo: you just copy that, paste into konsole from livecd
[03:17] <LeeJunFan> Kiongku: well, having /etc backed up will probably be a good reference to getting that usb modem back :)
[03:17] <xsacha> done
[03:18] <Dr_willis> Kiongku,  3.5.5
[03:18] <BluesKaj> ok, BlueEagle , i would do a clean install from the edgy cd instead of the live cd ...the live cds always seem to have 'issues".
[03:18] <xsacha> that exact string of commands works every time for me :) whenever i need to boot from live
[03:18] <Kiongku> whats new in it then :P?
[03:18] <GnarusLeo> xsacha, ok, nice :)
[03:19] <GnarusLeo> xsacha, what does it do actually?
[03:19] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: Which "edgy cd"? I use the kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso live cd.
[03:19] <xsacha> mounts the other hard drive and then changes root directory to it
[03:19] <xsacha> and it mounts all the other directories too
[03:19] <GnarusLeo> xsacha, ok .. if I just need to get to the filesystem (without changing root to it) how would I do that?
[03:20] <BluesKaj> don't install while yer in edgy
[03:20] <xsacha> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[03:20] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: soo... you are counselling me to use the alternate cd image instead of the one I am using?
[03:21] <GnarusLeo> xsacha, ok done ...
[03:21] <xsacha> ok then it'll be in /mnt
[03:22] <reagleBRKLN> is there a good kubuntu edgy beryl guide?
[03:22] <BluesKaj> BlueEagle,, that's what worked for me
[03:23] <xsacha> reagleBRKLN: http://compiz-mirror.lupine.me.uk/ <-- this has all good edgy mirrors  .. the HOWTO will depend on your graphics card vendor and driver choice
[03:24] <_dan_> Is there a page which shows me what packages are on the kubuntu/ubuntu Edgy DVD?
[03:24] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: Well that's a workaround that would work, however it won't fix the issue at hand which is the buggy qtparted or being able to install from the livecd w/o running qtparted at all.
[03:24] <reagleBRKLN> xsacha: yes, i installed the debs following http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Aiglx/compiz_on_an_Intel_i915_video_card
[03:24] <yo> hello
[03:24] <reagleBRKLN> xsacha:  and that page says "As of october 2006, AIGLX should work out of the box in edgy, provided your graphics card supports it."
[03:25] <xsacha> yes
[03:25] <yo> c quoi deja le non du chan francais .
[03:25] <reagleBRKLN> but wondering what do i do now... i don't have to muck with my xorg.conf or kdm?
[03:25] <dude_> hello
[03:25] <dude_> guys
[03:25] <xsacha> you want to use aiglx? cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep AIGLX to check if it loaded
[03:25] <Kiongku> !french
[03:25] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:25] <yo> merci
[03:26] <_dan_> Is there a page which shows me what packages are on the kubuntu/ubuntu Edgy DVD?
[03:26] <BluesKaj> BlueEagle, don't use Qparted if it's broken , use Gparted , it's a newer and better designed partition manager , if you insist on using one
[03:26] <_dan_> (for i386 if it matters)
[03:26] <RogueJediX> Anyone know how to save alsamixer settings? They keep resetting every time I reboot.
[03:26] <reagleBRKLN> will try restarting X
[03:26] <_dan_> RogueJediX: alsactl store
[03:26] <dbglt> ok, my fonts in openoffice are completely buggered on updating to edgy
[03:26] <dbglt> they don't seem to render properly
[03:26] <_dan_> as root, i thinkl
[03:26] <dbglt> everything else works fine... any ideas? :\
[03:26] <elessar> hi to all
[03:26] <RogueJediX> Thanks, _dan_
[03:26] <Surger> How do I get Firefox to integrated into KDE?
[03:27] <Surger> Firefox 2.0 I mean
[03:27] <GnarusLeo> Surger, what do you mean?
[03:27] <Surger> Well so that it's in the menu and when I click on a http link in an e-mail it opens firefox.
[03:27] <dropsl> hi
[03:28] <Surger> Or is there a FF 2.0 package for Dapper somewhere?
[03:28] <dropsl> how can i change the name of the computer i choosed when installing kubuntu?
[03:28] <poningru> Surger: getfirefox.com
[03:28] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: I'm not the one attempting to use qtparted. The livecd installer is forcing the use of qtparted for everyone that has already got their parittions set up.
[03:28] <poningru> Surger: download the tar
[03:28] <Dr_willis> Surger,  i just downloaded the firefox binary tar.gz's and isntalled them to my users dir.
[03:28] <poningru> Surger: untar it to /usr/local/bin
[03:29] <felixjet> how to open crossover ? anyone know?
[03:29] <Surger> poningru: Oh ok
[03:29] <Dr_willis> just in 'case'  it dident work well. tested it as a user first
[03:29] <Surger> Dr_willis: It runs fine :)
[03:29] <dude_> Dr_Willis: hello, question
[03:29] <jmichaelx> are others experiencing issues with / being hidden in edgy? for example, if i want to select what kind of program to use to open an audio dtream in firefox, / does not show up....
[03:30] <jmichaelx> stream*
[03:30] <Dr_willis> jmichaelx,  Hmm..  this is under the firefox  file requestor dialog?
[03:30] <dropsl> does any1 know how i can rename the machine/computer? is there a configuration file?
[03:31] <BlueEagle> anyways, now that edgy is installed and I'm setting up software for it. Will the repo for Opera that is used in dapper work in edgy?
[03:31] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: under preferences -> content -> manage
[03:32] <Ahmuck> i am having two problems with the "upgrade" from dapper to edgy
[03:32] <Ahmuck> well, only one problem, and something i would like to do.
[03:32] <Dr_willis> jmichaelx,  click the little icon with the paper/pencil and you can enter /
[03:32] <beralt> hey there. dues anyone know in what package kuser lives?
[03:32] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: i have had this issue on 2 PCs.... i wound up having to unhide / from the command line on the other PC for it to be visible. i think this is a bug
[03:33] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: clicking the pencil only shows my home folder
[03:33] <Dr_willis> jmichaelx,  type /bin
[03:33] <Ahmuck> i followed the instructions located here " http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php " for upgrading from Kubuntu Dapper LTS
[03:33] <Dr_willis> and hit enter. :)
[03:33] <esaym> surger: use swiftfox installer
[03:33] <LeeJunFan> jmichaelx: do you remember what command you had to enter? maybe our definitions of hidden are different, but root isn't hidden here.
[03:33] <dognews> Why can't my mp3-player interpret my own written album-id3-tag (set with easytag or kid3) correctly? - selecting albums doesn't work with my own tagged files, but with e.g. podcasts
[03:34] <esaym> http://getswiftfox.com/installer.htm
[03:34] <Ahmuck> my adept icon is in the corner and when i use it to check packages i have 33 packages that apear to be updgradable
[03:34] <Dr_willis> jmichaelx,  it seems the filemanager is sort of keeping you in your own /home by default.. you can enter /bin/whatever and get to it.
[03:34] <BluesKaj> BlueEagle, like the doctor says , "if it hurts , don't do it" ...that's why i suggested that you not boot into the live cd to install
[03:34] <jmichaelx> i entered mv /.hidden /.not-hidden
[03:35] <Chousuke> hmm
[03:35] <jmichaelx> ok, well, it is not a huge issue, but a different behavior than i was used to
[03:35] <Chousuke> that sounds like a feature and not a bug
[03:35] <Ahmuck> after hitting apply updates, it quickly shows update complete but the icon is still there and upon launching it again, the same packages show up in the list
[03:35] <Chousuke> the regular user should never have need to see directly to /, and those who need to see there have other ways
[03:36] <Dr_willis> Hmm .hidden seems to be a list of places that the gtk file manager uses to hide them?
[03:36] <jmichaelx> Chousuke: if a person wants to set up file associations in a browser, he needs to be able to see /
[03:36] <Ahmuck> it appears these are primarly python packages and one asterisk package (which i am not using)
[03:37] <LeeJunFan> jmichaelx: hrm, I've never heard of that. Nor never had an issue with it and I've installed kubuntu on MANY systems, I wonder how you ended up with that? hehe
[03:37] <Ahmuck> any idea how to resolve this ?
[03:37] <Chousuke> jmichaelx: hmm, why?
[03:37] <jmichaelx> LeeJunFan: i have installed kubuntu a lot, as well.... never had this issue until edgy
[03:37] <LeeJunFan> jmichaelx: I've never used the desktop install CD either, I wonder if that's got something to do with it.
[03:37] <jmichaelx> Chousuke: how else would you do it?
[03:37] <Jucato> !hidden | jmichaelx
[03:37] <ubotu> jmichaelx: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[03:38] <Dr_willis> jmichaelx,  did you install Kubuntu and Ubuntu-desktop also?
[03:38] <LeeJunFan> jmichaelx: ah, I haven't installed edgy from scratch yet
[03:38] <Chousuke> jmichaelx: I don't know how you do it in the first place. Englighten me.
[03:38] <jmichaelx> Jucato: thank you
[03:38] <Dr_willis> I got a  /.hidden file       - ive isntalled Edgy Kubuntu, + ubuntu desktop, + xubuntu desktop
[03:38] <Dr_willis> googling for .hidden now and cant find any hits. :)
[03:39] <Jucato> Dr_willis: see the link above
[03:39] <jmichaelx> Chousuke: say you want to open an audio stream with xmms instead of mplayer-plugin.... you have to be able to see /usr/bin to do that
[03:39] <Jucato> jmichaelx: why do you need to go to /usr/bin to do that?
[03:39] <Dr_willis>  !hidden | Dr_willis
[03:39] <ubotu> Dr_willis: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[03:39] <Dr_willis> heh
[03:39] <jmichaelx> Jucato: maybe i don't lol... it is the only way i know to do it. if there is a better way, let me know!
[03:39] <Jucato> jmichaelx: btw, you do not absolutely need to *see*. you can type the URL directly. or you can Show Hidden Files, and you'll see
[03:39] <Chousuke> jmichaelx: that sounds like the configuration utility isn't very usable.
[03:40] <LeeJunFan> uh, that stupifying crap really pi*** me off. I wish they'd put something in the installer which asks if you are a linux veteran or not and not put hidden crap like that in the install, that's the kind of thing that makes me want to look for another dist.
[03:40] <danny500> I'm very impreessed with ubuntu right now
[03:40] <Jucato> jmichaelx: shouldn't you be able to set File Associations in Konqueror?
[03:40] <Chousuke> jmichaelx: the regular user should not care where his binaries are. He should only be represented with a list of possible choices.
[03:40] <LeeJunFan> I hate undoing all that junk, kubuntu-default settings, konqueror.rc, and now .hidden. Lame.
[03:40] <jmichaelx> Jucato: i don't think so.... not for FF
[03:41] <Chousuke> specifying binaries directly works for more experienced users.
[03:41] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  so this is a Edgy only feature? or a KDE 3.5X feature?
[03:41] <Jucato> jmichaelx: well technically, it should affect the whole system (is it our fault that Firefox refuses to play nice? :P)
[03:41] <Jucato> Dr_willis: Edgy only
[03:41] <beralt> does anyone know where I should look for usermanagement in kubuntu edgy?
[03:41] <jmichaelx> LeeJunFan: exactly. i guarantee i won't be the only person scrathing his head about this. if you are a linux vet, you may hardly notice this
[03:41] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  im curious as to how they did it..  :)
[03:42] <danny500> When I used to have windows on my machine the processor would always read that 10% of it is being used when nothings running but now that I have ubuntu, It usually say's that 0% of the processor is being used
[03:42] <Jucato> beralt: System Settings -> Advanced
[03:42] <Ahmuck> wow, i just tanked the konquer window/shortcut
[03:42] <Ahmuck> that has to be a bug
[03:42] <Dr_willis> edgy has a lot of change taht will make people scrach their heads.
[03:42] <beralt> Jucato: advanced. o_O /me hates 'advanced' :) its the worst usability mistake invented, ever :)
[03:42] <Jucato> Dr_willis: I don't know. maybe the .hidden rule has been there for ages and we just never knew about it
[03:42] <beralt> Thanks Jucato:)
[03:42] <jmichaelx> well, i am impressed with edgy, just have not quite leaned my way around yet lol
[03:42] <Dr_willis> i noticed the file requestors were only showing  /home and /media - but only  just recently.
[03:43] <danny500> does anyone know were I can get frostwire 2.0?
[03:43] <Dr_willis> its still way more logical then how widnows does it.
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> LeeJunFan: I agree with you entirely about the hidden files - stupid idea copied from windows
[03:43] <Furesho> ....when is the new firefox package coming out?
[03:43] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: that is basically the exact issue i am speaking of.... it effects a lot of things
[03:43] <Jucato> beralt: take it up with the OpenUsability people who helped :P
[03:43] <LeeJunFan> I'm afraid kubuntu is starting down the mandrake road, I got fed up with all the feature removal and hiding my computer from me they were doing and left them years back.
[03:43] <bijacz> hi, could anyone help me to configure sound under kubuntu 6.10? im a newbie, and im feelin a little lost...
[03:43] <Dr_willis> jmichaelx, I also find the 'button/bar' address thing in many gtk apps to be brain dead. :)
[03:43] <Ahmuck> http://www.frostwire.com/
[03:44] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: no doubt
[03:44] <danny500> they only have the 4.0 version there
[03:44] <Jucato> LeeJunFan: you can unhide it permanently if you want. if the feature doesn't suit you, change it.
[03:44] <dude_> ahmuck: can you help me with my frostwire?
[03:44] <Dr_willis> whaever ya call that  [home] [willis] [porn] [new]  button bar to be.. :)
[03:44] <Jucato> LeeJunFan: you have the choice to do that
[03:44] <Dr_willis> be nicer if the .hidden thing was on a per user basis
[03:44] <gnomefreak> Ahmuck: that frostwire script may not work on edgy FYI
[03:44] <Jucato> Dr_willis: a GTK thing, I think
[03:44] <jmichaelx> Jucato: that is great....but would be a major turn off to someone new
[03:44] <dude_> jucato: help :)
[03:44] <Ahmuck> dude_: not really.  frostwire has a ubuntu page there
[03:44] <yacoob> Hm.
[03:44] <LeeJunFan> Jucato: I'm sure I'll have to when it gets to that point, but it just seems lame to be on the road to turning Linux into a mac. When do we go to 1 mouse button because 3 is too confusing?
[03:44] <beralt> Jucato: I was joking, and I am involved w/ them already.
[03:44] <dropsl> please: how do i change the name of the computer i choosed in the kubuntu installation...?
[03:44] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: i agree
[03:45] <Jucato> jmichaelx: why? do new users even know the Linux filesystem?
[03:45] <yacoob> Anyone set up marble mouse trackball?
[03:45] <bijacz> hi, could anyone help me to configure sound under kubuntu 6.10? im a newbie, and im feelin a little lost...
[03:45] <Jucato> dude_: what is it?
[03:45] <Dr_willis> dropsl,  i though there was a network config tool that had it listed..  aint messed with that in ages.
[03:45] <GnarusLeo> Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font   <---- what does this mean?
[03:45] <jmichaelx> Jucato: i started using linux about 5 months ago... i have a LOT to learn.... but i needed access to the filesystem for a lot of things
[03:45] <Jucato> LeeJunFan: why should we shun some good practices just because they come from GNOME, Mac, or Windows?
[03:45] <dropsl> Dr_willis: do you know how it is called? would be cool :)
[03:45] <gnomefreak> Ahmuck: edgy doesnt use bash for scripts
[03:45] <jmichaelx> after a short amount of times
[03:46] <Dr_willis> dropsl,  its right there in the kde control-panel iconss
[03:46] <Jucato> jmichaelx: it's because most of the stuff you were told to do involved going to those directories that you should not
[03:46] <gnomefreak> Ahmuck: edgy uses dash for system default
[03:46] <LeeJunFan> Jucato: hiding functionality is not a good practice, especially when it means extra steps to gain it.
[03:46] <Dr_willis> Interent & network --> Network Settings
[03:46] <dude_> jucato: "runFrost.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")" <--- do you know this error
[03:46] <beralt> is there a good K alternative for ekiga?
[03:46] <Jucato> dude_: no. sorry
[03:46] <LeeJunFan> Jucato: that's like having to get in your trunk to flip a switch to put your car in reverse.
[03:46] <gnomefreak> dude_: on edgy
[03:46] <rohan> anyone experiencing this bug on 6.10 - launchpad.net/bugs/vtgarble ?
[03:47] <rohan> its a real critical bug imo :(
[03:47] <jmichaelx> Jucato: you may be right. i may just need to learn other ways of doing these things, as i am encouraging others to try ubuntu on a daily basis lol
[03:47] <Dr_willis> 'edgy defults to haveing /bin/sh be a link to /bin/dash, which is posix compliant'   :)
[03:47] <dropsl> Dr_willis: thank you, your are totally right, i found it!!! thank you very much
[03:47] <dude_> gnomefreak: ha?
[03:47] <GnarusLeo> Dr_willis, had a problem with that just now! :)=
[03:47] <gnomefreak> dude_: are you on dapper or edgy
[03:47] <jpleg> on parle francias sur se canal?
[03:47] <Ahmuck> i have an akward question.  has kubuntu decided to use it's own standards without going to peer standards review ?
[03:47] <dropsl> Dr_willis: everything isnt really difficult if you know where and how to do it... :)
[03:47] <GnarusLeo> jpleg, no french in here
[03:47] <Jucato> !fr > jpleg
[03:48] <dude_> edgy
[03:48] <dude_> gnomefreak: edgy
[03:48] <rohan> !fr | jpleg
[03:48] <ubotu> jpleg: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:48] <Dr_willis> dropsl,  it pays to explore the os.. also use the add-applets item and add a 'settings' icon to the panel. makes it easier to finmd things.
[03:48] <rohan> Jucato: maybe thats what you wanted ? :)
[03:48] <gnomefreak> dude_: the script is trying to run in bash but since edgy uses dash it needs to be chaged
[03:48] <jpleg> thank's
[03:48] <GnarusLeo> Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font   <---- what does this mean?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> changed
[03:48] <Jucato> rohan: it does the same. except ">" sends the factoid in a PM
[03:48] <rohan> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/68807 ---> damn, this is the worst bug ! making ubuntu almost unusable
[03:48] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  yea.. ive gotten where i agree that the 'scripts' need to be fixed.
[03:48] <dude_> gnomefreak: what should i do?
[03:48] <rohan> Jucato: i am very sorry, i did not know that :)
[03:49] <GnarusLeo> can you do a "ln -s /bin/bash /bin/dash"?
[03:49] <rohan> Jucato: i thought you made a typo :D
[03:49] <Dr_willis> GnarusLeo,  its BEST to fix the scriopt
[03:49] <Dr_willis> dude_,  just a sec.. let me look
[03:49] <gnomefreak> dude_: change the script to use dash or talk to the maintainer to change it
[03:49] <dude_> tnx
[03:49] <dropsl> Dr_willis: will do it :). another issue: in the standard kde control center is a setting for the activity display... i mean the bouncing icon when launching a program. but in the new kubuntu system settings i cant find it...
[03:49] <jmichaelx> how would i set up firefox file associations without access to / in the FF file browser?
[03:49] <Dr_willis> dude_,  the first line of  runFrost.sh  is accessing #!/bin/sh  - it needxs to read #!/bin/bash
[03:49] <rohan> dropsl: why not just use kcontrol ?
[03:50] <Dr_willis> dude_,  edit  /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh
[03:50] <Jucato> dropsl: human error. it will be put back sometime
[03:50] <Jucato> dropsl: launch KControl (Alt+F2, "kcontrol")
[03:50] <dropsl> rohan: your right, thanks
[03:50] <dropsl> Jucato: thanks :)
[03:51] <GnarusLeo> gnomefreak, haha :)
[03:51] <jmichaelx> lol @ gnomefreak
[03:51] <Jucato> hehe
[03:51] <Jucato> I set it only to 5 seconds
[03:51] <rohan> its distracting, but after some time you need it :D
[03:51] <larson9999> the bouncing cursor is the first thing i disable
[03:51] <Jucato> I hate a spinning hour glass even more :P
[03:51] <gnomefreak> agreed
[03:51] <jmichaelx> spinning hourglass sucks
[03:51] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  i was thinking bash had a 'posix' compliant mode that it defaulted to  in scripts...   double checking the bash docs. :)
[03:51] <dropsl> i set it always to none. no icon or something... :)
[03:52] <dude_> Dr_Willis: ok, its open
[03:52] <gnomefreak> dude_: change the first line to read #!/bin/bash
[03:52] <Dr_willis> dude_,  first line.. change #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash
[03:52] <gnomefreak> for starters
[03:52] <yacoob> is there any way to quickly click url in konsole?
[03:52] <Dr_willis> then it works.. i just tested it
[03:52] <Ahmuck> i get this error after having pressed F9 four times in konquer.  whenever i try to open konqueror the error "Sorry KDE Panel, Service '/usr/share/applications/kde/konqbrowser.desktop' is malforamteted. [OK] 
[03:52] <mefiX> hi there!
[03:52] <rohan> yacoob: no, you need to copy paste it in a browser
[03:52] <yacoob> rohan, aw. Too bad.
[03:52] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: dont you have to change permissions like with pyscripts
[03:53] <Ahmuck> can someone duplicated this ?
[03:53] <rohan> yacoob: yeah :( coming from gnome ? :D
[03:53] <gnomefreak> not change ut reset
[03:53] <mefiX> what is the easiest way to get "speedfreq aka cpufreq" working in edgy?
[03:53] <Jucato> !launch-feedback
[03:53] <ubotu> The Launch Feedback setting can be found in KControl. Press Alt+F2 and type in "kcontrol" (without the quotes). It is located under the Appearance and Themes group
[03:53] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  i just edited that file with sudo vi /whatever/ and changed that 1 line.
[03:53] <yacoob> rohan, nope, just my perosnal preference :D
[03:53] <Jucato> just in case anyone asks again ^^^^^^
[03:53] <rohan> ok, yacoob
[03:53] <yacoob> rohan, believe it or not, but until last week I've been using only sawfish :D
[03:53] <rohan> so, for most people, the vt's are actually working ?
[03:53] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: after chaniing scripts i run chmod x+a(or whatever im in the mood for) than run it  maybe im just used to pyscripts
[03:54] <rohan> yacoob: hehe, kde will feel like heaven after that ;)
[03:54] <jmichaelx> by the way, what kernel shoudl be used on a 686 machine in edgy? generic?
[03:54] <Ahmuck> bleh, adept just tanked
[03:54] <gnomefreak> generic jmichaelx
[03:54] <dude_> Dr_Willis: still not working
[03:55] <jmichaelx> ty
[03:55] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: teh abs guide tells you to set it to executable after changing/writing
[03:55] <yacoob> rohan, provided I'll get used to it of course :D
[03:55] <gnomefreak> vi may do that fror you
[03:55] <yacoob> sawfish isn't developed anymore, yet I got used to it, and wrote some addons too.
[03:56] <Dr_willis> dude_,  and the error is?
[03:56] <gnomefreak> yacoob: its open source feel free to change it and upgrade it with your changes
[03:56] <dude_> Dr_Willis: nothing
[03:56] <rohan> yacoob: ofcours
[03:56] <Dr_willis> dude_,  try running          /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh
[03:57] <Dr_willis> ls -l ls -l /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh       ------->    -rwxr-xr-x 1 willis 1001 3338 2006-10-28 09:50 /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh
[03:58] <nabil> hi friends i have downloaded ati drivers from ati site..how do i install in kubuntu now(linux newbie-windows never made me lazy)
[03:58] <flaccid>  !ati > nabil
[03:58] <dude_> Dr_Willis: hmmm, im trying to run frostwire using my shortcut, but doesnt work, but when i /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh, it works
[03:59] <Dr_willis> dude_,  shortcuts are for sissies. :P
[03:59] <Dr_willis> actually see what the shortcut is running..
[03:59] <Dr_willis> or make a new one that runs  /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh
[03:59] <Kiongku> shortcuts make lifes easier :p
[04:00] <dude_> Dr_Willis: ok, tnx....
[04:00] <dude_> gnomefreak: tnx
[04:00] <Ahmuck> how do i unlock apg-get ?
[04:00] <rohan> Ahmuck: unlock as in ?
[04:00] <rohan> you want to use it as root ?
[04:01] <Jucato> !adept crash fix
[04:01] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:01] <Jucato> Ahmuck: ^^^^^^^^^
[04:01] <Ahmuck> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:01] <gnomefreak> or restart gdm :)
[04:01] <Ahmuck> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:01] <rohan> oh, unlock the dpkg database
[04:01] <gnomefreak> Ahmuck: do you have adept open
[04:01] <Ahmuck> nope
[04:01] <rohan> Ahmuck: read what Jucato caused ubotu to paste
[04:01] <Ahmuck> hi Jucato
[04:01] <LeeJunFan> well that explains why I never noticed .hidden, I always remove the kubuntu-default-settings package.
[04:01] <gnomefreak> Ahmuck: while trying to run a command in teerminal
[04:01] <Dr_willis> dude_,  correct - frostwire menu item dont work for me either
[04:02] <Jucato> !adept crash fix > Ahmuck
[04:02] <dude_> Dr_Willis: one more thing
[04:02] <Ahmuck> will removing python cause bad things in kubuntu ?
[04:02] <LeeJunFan> Ahmuck: yes
[04:02] <Jucato> yes
[04:02] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  now HERE is an inteesting Bash/dash/sh thing...
[04:03] <LeeJunFan> Ahmuck: a lot of things use python, a lot of thing in KDE specifically.
[04:03] <dude_> Dr_Willis: im always changing my screen resolution
[04:03] <gnomefreak> Ahmuck: removing python = bad idea
[04:03] <dude_> Dr_WIllis: it keeps on resetting
[04:03] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  the frostwire script runs ' sh runFrost.sh '   /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh     has #!/bin/bash as the first line.. so which shell gets ran for it?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: bash. the #! decides what it uses
[04:04] <Ahmuck> *grins sheepsly* that explains it
[04:04] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  it dosent seem to be using bash
[04:04] <grothesk_> Hi!
[04:04] <gnomefreak> than there is something in the script that is using .sh
[04:05] <grothesk_> How do I set gnome to my native language when using kdm?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> the .sh at end of script name is fine but something in script itself it running in dash
[04:05] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: ill take a look at it this week comming up some time
[04:05] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  /usr/bin/frostwire has a minimal script that runs  --> sh runFrost.sh       Guess it should be 'bash runFrost.sh'
[04:05] <gnomefreak> see if i cant fix it
[04:06] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  yea.. it seems the 'sh whatever' forces it to use dash.
[04:06] <gnomefreak> yes
[04:06] <LeeJunFan> yeah, that overrides the #!
[04:06] <TheGateKeeper> gnomefreak: that needs fixing, that the 2nd person I have seen having that problem in that last 24 hours
[04:06] <gnomefreak> it all depends on that the script is running inside itself
[04:06] <gnomefreak> TheGateKeeper: i will get to it i hope
[04:06] <gnomefreak> its not my script but i can always re-write it
[04:07] <TheGateKeeper> gnomefreak: I hope too :-)
[04:07] <Dr_willis> dude_,  so your FIX for the icon item is to...... edit   /usr/bin/frostwire   and change the 'sh' to 'bash' on the last line
[04:07] <GnarusLeo> xsacha, are you here? Could really need that fancy command you wrote earlier for mounting hda1 when on live cd :)
[04:07] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: try that first please im not sure if you can do that
[04:07] <Dr_willis> i did -
[04:07] <xsacha> GnarusLeo: chrooting to it or just mounting it?
[04:07] <gnomefreak> ok
[04:07] <Dr_willis> it works now :)
[04:07] <GnarusLeo> xsacha, chrooting :)
[04:07] <xsacha> gah i hope it's still in memory dont want to type it out again :P
[04:07] <Dr_willis> gotta love a script calling a script. :)
[04:07] <GnarusLeo> xsacha, by that I can "sudo apt-get" and it will install on the hda1 partition right?
[04:08] <xsacha> GnarusLeo: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt; mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev; mount --bind /tmp /dev/tmp; mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc; mount -t sysfs none /sys; chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[04:08] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: remind me monday or tuesday to look at it and change it
[04:08] <xsacha> yes if you chroot to it, it's like you booted from it
[04:08] <omar> Hello guys, I am from Sierra Leona, I have a problem with my partitions, I uses to have a windows (3Gb) and kbuntu (37 Gb) and I install kubuntu edgy with 20 Gb , and I resize my windows with 20 Gb without reinstalling it, But know I just can see 3Gb of windws, How can I show everything
[04:08] <TheGateKeeper> gnomefreak: well whoever the person is who wrote it assuming they are paert of the ubuntu comunity needs to fix it & in a hurry
[04:08] <TheGateKeeper> part*
[04:08] <gnomefreak> TheGateKeeper: they are not iirc
[04:08] <TheGateKeeper> uggg
[04:09] <gnomefreak> !frostwire
[04:09] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:09] <dude_> Dr_WIllis: there's no 'sh' on the last line
[04:10] <cies> is there a HOWTO on setting up kubuntu 6.10 for KDE4 development?
[04:10] <cies> i heard about it
[04:10] <xsacha> GnarusLeo: mount -t sysfs none /sys should be: mount -t sysfs none /mnt/sys
[04:10] <omar> Hello guys, I am from Sierra Leona, I have a problem with my partitions, I uses to have a windows (3Gb) and kbuntu (37 Gb) and I install kubuntu edgy with 20 Gb , and I resize my windows with 20 Gb without reinstalling it, But know I just can see 3Gb of windws, How can I show everything
[04:10] <cies> and need it
[04:11] <cies> omar: try cfdisk
[04:11] <cies> omar: "man cfdisk"
[04:11] <rohan> or use gparted
[04:11] <TheGateKeeper> cies: I don't know of one... however...
[04:11] <rohan> it has a nice gui
[04:12] <curb> or qtparted
[04:12] <curb> :)
[04:12] <cies> or qtparted ;)
[04:12] <rohan> probably you amde some mistake while partitioing
[04:12] <curb> ^^
[04:12] <cies> curb: dogh!
[04:12] <rohan> curb: i forgot i was i #kubuntu
[04:12] <rohan> ;)
[04:12] <curb> :)
[04:12] <cies> ;)
[04:12] <TheGateKeeper> cies: I would have thought all you need is a c/c++ ide & build-essentials & you would be on your way
[04:12] <curb> always these gnome-atics ^^
[04:12] <astronaute> hello, can someone help me run teamspeak client on edgy please, i configured the path in TeamSpeak script but still get the message :  TeamSpeak: 8: /usr/local/bin/ts_client/TeamSpeak.bin: not found
[04:13] <cies> TheGateKeeper: are you?
[04:13] <cies> TheGateKeeper: i need a lot of -dev packages, not?
[04:13] <curb> astronaute: is the teamspeak binary executable?
[04:13] <astronaute> curb:   yes chmod +x
[04:13] <cies> TheGateKeeper: to build qt, kdelibs, etc. jpeglib-dev, whatever-dev
[04:13] <xsacha> gah FrostWire is java-based
[04:13] <TheGateKeeper> cies: I have tried doing any linux dev stuff yet
[04:14] <cies> TheGateKeeper: ok
[04:14] <TheGateKeeper> cies: I have NOT tried doing any linux dev stuff yet
[04:14] <TheGateKeeper> ooops
[04:14] <cies> TheGateKeeper: i got it (i make the same mistake too often)
[04:14] <cies> anyone else here knowing a list of pack i should install for kde4develpment
[04:14] <cies> ???
[04:15] <cies> (i'll ask on kde4-devel aswell)
[04:15] <TheGateKeeper> cies: I have so far shied away from it, might be too like my day job which is a windows dev
[04:15] <astronaute> http://pastebin.ca/226434
[04:16] <astronaute> please take a look
[04:16] <cies> TheGateKeeper: my opinion; you can compare day job (or university) programming with helping a hand in the freesoftware movement
[04:16] <cies> TheGateKeeper: ehhh.... can NOT
[04:16] <cies> hehehe
[04:17] <rohan> astronaute: strange indeed
[04:17] <rohan> astronaute: try bash ?
[04:17] <xsacha> lol
[04:18] <rohan> maybe dash has problems with it ? (i don't think it has, but worth a try)
[04:18] <astronaute> almost same
[04:18] <astronaute> TeamSpeak: line 8: /usr/local/bin/ts_client/TeamSpeak.bin: No such file or directory
[04:18] <rohan> drumline_: haha
[04:18] <xsacha> astronaute: try without the sudo
[04:18] <rohan> err
[04:19] <rohan> Dr_willis: haha ;)
[04:19] <Ahmuck> anybody else have "manage repositories" removed from the adept updater menu ?
[04:20] <astronaute> xsacha:  same without sudo :/
[04:20] <Dr_willis> astronaute,  as a test change the  #!/bin/sh     line to be #!/bin/bash
[04:20] <rohan> astronaute: maybe it is fsck time ?
[04:20] <yacoob> hm
[04:20] <Dr_willis> astronaute,  also do a 'ls -l  /usr/local/bin/ts_client/TeamSpeak.bin '
[04:21] <yacoob> is there any way to tweak konqueror-kaffeine cooperation?
[04:21] <gnomefreak> is debian using dash also?
[04:21] <gnomefreak> and what version of debian uses it?
[04:21] <rohan> gnomefreak: no, i don't think so
[04:21] <rohan> i dont think it is the default sh
[04:21] <yacoob> when I click on a movie file, and tell konq to open it in kaffeine, kaffeine plays it
[04:21] <gnomefreak> i didnt think so either :(
[04:21] <yacoob> but after I click play once again, it downloads movie again
[04:21] <astronaute> ls -l  /usr/local/bin/ts_client/TeamSpeak.bin (OK)
[04:21] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  i dont think it is.. but that Nokia 770 handheld IS using dash by default.. aparently debian is having a period of 'script checking' so they can change to dash weithout hassles.
[04:21] <astronaute> Dr_willis:  i try
[04:22] <Dr_willis> astronaute,  that file exists? and is executable?
[04:23] <astronaute> Dr_willis:  yes and yes
[04:23] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  i guess the chnge to dash is a good thing... but it seems rushed.
[04:24] <rohan> astronaute: i am sorry if i missed your answer - but how about a fsck ?
[04:24] <astronaute> rohan:  sorry me too, i dont uunderstand what is fsck ?
[04:24] <LeeJunFan> !fsck
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: well im emailing them and i would like to know if they need to fix debians also. i gonna send them the fix i make for edgy but if its only gonna be edgy no real need to
[04:24] <rohan> bah :(
[04:24] <xsacha> lol
[04:24] <LeeJunFan> it's filesystem check
[04:24] <rohan> astronaute: file system check
[04:25] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  emailing the frostwire guys eh?
[04:25] <astronaute> ehm, what im supposed to do ?
[04:25] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: yes
[04:25] <LeeJunFan> astronaute: fix errors on your filesystem.
[04:25] <xsacha> it checks for problems in filesystem
[04:25] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  put the fear of gnomefreak  in them!
[04:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:25] <gnomefreak> :)
[04:25] <astronaute> LeeJunFan:  no i have not errors, its a brand new Drive, and everything works fine
[04:25] <gnomefreak> took me forever to find contact
[04:25] <Dr_willis> of course ya got to wonder WHAT is so differnt from bash and the 'posix' complient dash.
[04:25] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:25] <Ahmuck> astronaute: not the drive, the filesystem
[04:25] <rohan> astronaute: just boot from a live cd and do "fsck /dev/UBUNTU_PARTITION"
[04:26] <xsacha> doesnt matter how old drive is :D
[04:26] <astronaute> I cant do that without booting on live cd ?
[04:26] <LeeJunFan> astronaute: fsck checks the data on the drive, not the physical stability of the drive itself.
[04:26] <xsacha> need that drive to be unmounted
[04:27] <Dr_willis> Egads... some of the Control Center Applets/windows STILL pop up with such a small size. you dont see the "administrator mode' button...
[04:27] <Dr_willis> now THAT is a bug.
[04:27] <LeeJunFan> astronaute: filesystems can be corrupted for many different reasons, although ext3 is really robust and not very prone to it - data corruption can occur, especially if the system is powered off incorrectly.
[04:27] <TheGateKeeper> does edgy use dash instead of bash or just some of the scripts?
[04:27] <xsacha> bash
[04:27] <ozmodiar> Anybody konw why i can't view the content in /-folder. I Only see home and media. I have recently installed kubuntu 6.10...
[04:27] <bubu1uk> what package do i need to play win media files? need win32codecs.
[04:28] <rohan> ozmodiar: from the gui browser ?
[04:28] <LjL> !hidden-root > ozmodiar
[04:28] <rohan> ewww ! what a sucky thing to do ! :P
[04:28] <ozmodiar> in konqueror
[04:28] <LeeJunFan> astronaute: in order to check and fix a filesystem it has to not be in use by any applications, it's doable on a running system, but requires stopping apps and remounting / read only.
[04:28] <Jucato> LjL: nice. saved me some typing. thanks :)
[04:28] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  ok..now what gets me on this bash/dash/posix -->   When invoked as sh, Bash enters POSIX mode after reading the startup files.  http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/bashref/bashref_69.html
[04:28] <LeeJunFan> astronaute: you can tell it to fsck on next reboot though, then reboot your computer and let it do it's thing.
[04:29] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  which is how i am reading it.. when called as #!/bin/sh - bash IS in posix mode.. so there should be no issues.
[04:29] <astronaute> then ill fsch ik but im not sure this will resolve problem =)
[04:29] <rohan> astronaute: i am not sure too
[04:29] <Dr_willis> unless bash in posix mode isent fully posix..
[04:29] <LeeJunFan> astronaute: well, apparently you can't force fsck on reboot any more.
[04:29] <xsacha> :(
[04:29] <rohan> but whenever i've had such problems, fsck has helped
[04:30] <rohan> touch /.forcefsck doesnt work ?
[04:30] <Nickste> Can this be done with Kubuntu Edgy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ZtcxHUSDQ and how easy is it to do it?
[04:30] <LeeJunFan> rohan: that might.
[04:30] <rohan> 19:56 < rohan> astronaute: just boot from a live cd and do "fsck /dev/UBUNTU_PARTITION"
[04:30] <astronaute> no problem i have edgy cd, ill boot to fsck in 10mns if i cant find solution
[04:30] <astronaute> yes rohan thx =)
[04:30] <rohan> fine
[04:30] <LeeJunFan> rohan: the shutdown options are gone, upstart doesn't seem to support them.
[04:30] <__osh__> are there defraggers in linux or are they built into the fs?
[04:30] <rohan> LeeJunFan: what shutdown options ? i dont know about them ;)
[04:30] <rohan> __osh__: they are not usually needed
[04:31] <LeeJunFan> __osh__: ext3 is designed to not need them. You are likely only to get a fragged ext filesystem if your HD is constantly full.
[04:31] <rohan> yes, if it is fuller than 85% most of the times
[04:31] <Nickste> Does kubuntu support beryl?
[04:31] <xsacha> in which case e2defrag ?
[04:32] <LeeJunFan> rohan: you used to be able to issue shutdown with flags to force fsck on reboot, not any longer there with upstart replasing sysvinit.
[04:32] <xsacha> i dont see why all distros wouldnt Nickste :)
[04:32] <rohan> LeeJunFan: ah ok, those :)
[04:32] <xsacha> kubuntu will work same as ubuntu -- any howtos you see
[04:32] <__osh__> rohan: LeeJunFan: Well, that's pretty much a fact of life so...
[04:33] <__osh__> It's not a problem yet, but there might be along the way.
[04:33] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: emasil is sent i will wait to do anything till i get a responce or until i feel i cant wait any longer for one. i have the files needed all i have to do is make changes and package them up but if they are gonna release it than i dont need to. I explaned what fixes need to be done also
[04:33] <xsacha> __osh__: always above 85% full?
[04:33] <xsacha> e2defrag should work
[04:33] <__osh__> xsacha: More or less. There's a lot of fun stuff on tha intarweb... =)
[04:33] <gnomefreak> if worst comes to worst i will put the file on the frostwire page and note to user that edgy needs to replace this file with this one
[04:34] <__osh__> xsacha: will have a look at e2defrag.
[04:34] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  yea.. the more i research this topic.. the odder it becomes.. from what i am reading, bash called from #!/bin/sh  SHOULD be compatiable with dash.
[04:34] <__osh__> xsacha: thanks
[04:34] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: *should* that maybe in feisty
[04:34] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  im finding a hard time googling much info on dash.
[04:34] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  aprently theres some ussage of () or other things thats causing some issue
[04:34] <rohan> gnomefreak: fesity fawn \o/
[04:34] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: the problem may be like with upstart they only changed part of it and the next 2 releases will finish the upstart
[04:35] <LeeJunFan> __osh__: I've got a couple external drives that are nearly full most of the time and I've never had a frag issue with them, usually fragmentation stays below 5% no matter what.
[04:35] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  heh heh .
[04:35] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: yes dash doesnt read the same chars as bash does
[04:35] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  yea.. noticed this little test case.
[04:35] <Dr_willis> #!/bin/bash
[04:35] <Dr_willis> function foo()
[04:35] <gnomefreak> like you will see all init go away
[04:35] <__osh__> LeeJunFan: Noted. I haven't had a problem yet either. Just curious.
[04:35] <Dr_willis> works.. but with #!/bin/dash - it gives this odd error message
[04:36] <Dr_willis> test.dash: 2: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[04:36] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: its not reading the ]  [ the same as bash would im sure there are other chars also
[04:36] <Dr_willis> so its not wanting the (
[04:36] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: needs to be changed to what dash uses ;)
[04:37] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  i was thinking that () was a posix defined thing. heh.
[04:37] <Dr_willis> but my posix skills are low
[04:37] <gnomefreak> i would have thought so but no telling. i havent played with dash a whole lot yet
[04:38] <FERLUI> #DNS rede
[04:38] <gnomefreak> if needed we can go to irc.peercommons.net #support and tell them to rewrite it to make it work ;)
[04:39] <gnomefreak> but right now i need a break for a little while ill bbl
[04:39] <Fator_Dee> hello, just upgraded to edgy (succesfully) but in the wizard I enabled the system sounds, and I hate them, so how I can invoke the wizard or disable them otherwise?
[04:39] <Dr_willis> heh
[04:40] <Fator_Dee> they are just awful :-p
[04:40] <Dr_willis> 'system notifications' contorl-center icon
[04:40] <Dr_willis> i forget the command to rerun that wizard
[04:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:41] <Jucato> kpersonalizer
[04:41] <Dr_willis> its not on my clean install :)
[04:41] <Jucato> neither was it on my dist-upgrade
[04:42] <Dr_willis> its all getting too confusing for me...
[04:42] <Dr_willis> lets all go back to the console and start over.
[04:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:42] <__osh__> This bug is new to me since edgy. Anyone else seen something similar. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/68586
[04:42] <LjL> !dash
[04:42] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[04:43] <Jucato> ouch
[04:43] <Jucato> that's going to hurt...
[04:43] <BluesKaj> Has anyone figured out why the screensaver in KDE 3.5.5 no longer works ?
[04:43] <LjL> Jucato: i recall a similar comment from someone else as well :-)
[04:43] <Fator_Dee> Dr_willis: ah, much better now, you save my sanity
[04:43] <Fator_Dee> *saved
[04:43] <Jucato> LjL: hehe.. time to do some research on what it is...
[04:43] <Dr_willis> LjL,  researcing that all day
[04:44] <Jucato> good thing I haven't gotten into BASH scripting/programming yet :)
[04:44] <__osh__> BluesKaj: Nope. I've got the same problem.
[04:44] <Dr_willis>  it seems really odd.. if a script calls #!/bin/sh   and sh it a link to 'bash' then bash enters posix mode.. so there shouldent be any incompatiablities.
[04:44] <twosouls82> Yeah, why not make the /bin/sh point to bash?
[04:44] <LjL> Dr_willis: /bin/sh links to SYS:C/NewShell in Ubuntu AGA (3.11). Since AmigaShell is 0% compatible with the BASH shell, all scripts will break. This is a good thing.
[04:45] <BluesKaj> __osh__, I think a lot of ppl have the prob , but haven't discovered it yet :)
[04:45] <Dr_willis> twosouls82,  thats how it used to be.
[04:45] <twosouls82> yeah I now
[04:45] <LjL> Jucato: speed, mainly, i believe
[04:45] <Dr_willis> LjL,  im trying to figure out how any  issues betweek the bash in posix mode, vs dash is going on.
[04:45] <Jucato> twosouls82: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/dash/
[04:45] <Dr_willis> twosouls82,  good luck.. i aint getting many good info hits
[04:45] <Jucato> twosouls82: nvm that link ehehe
[04:46] <Jucato> that's a very *very* short page...
[04:46] <twosouls82> :D
[04:46] <twosouls82> indeed
[04:46] <Ahmuck> The following packages have been kept back:
[04:46] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  yep.. now ya know what i am finding.
[04:46] <Ahmuck>   asterisk-oh323 hpijs libggi2 python-adns python-clientcookie python-crypto python-egenix-mxproxy python-egenix-mxstack
[04:46] <Ahmuck>   python-egenix-mxtexttools python-egenix-mxtools python-gadfly python-htmlgen python-htmltmpl python-imaging
[04:46] <Ahmuck>   python-imaging-sane python-jabber python-kjbuckets python-ldap python-mysqldb python-pam python-pexpect python-pgsql
[04:46] <Ahmuck>   python-pychart python-pylibacl python-pyopenssl python-pyxattr python-reportlab python-simpletal python-soappy
[04:46] <Ahmuck>   python-sqlite python-syck python-xmpp
[04:46] <Ahmuck> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 32 not upgraded.
[04:46] <Ahmuck> how does one fix those ?
[04:46] <twosouls82> Dr_willis: I will keep you posted when I find some good infos
[04:46] <Jucato> Ahmuck: please use pastebin next time
[04:46] <rohan> Ahmuck: STOP IT !
[04:46] <LjL> Dr_willis: in theory there *shouldn't* be any issues, as long as script writers are only using standard POSIX commands. but the problem is that some/many scripts are written using bash-specific extensions, while forgetting to use "#!/bin/bash" and just using "#!/bin/sh" as a header
[04:46] <LjL> !paste | Ahmuck
[04:46] <ubotu> Ahmuck: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:47] <Dr_willis> twosouls82,  heh - im getting sick of the dash vs bash stuff.. that from what i have read 'shouldent' be a problem.. unless of course bash's posix mode is really messed up
[04:47] <rohan> Ahmuck: do apt-get install on them individually
[04:47] <Jucato> Ahmuck: trying to upgrade to Edgy? try "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[04:47] <rohan> that'll solve out and dependency issues, Ahmuck
[04:47] <LjL> Dr_willis: (is newshell a built-in resident or is it in C:, anyway? :o i'm quite sure NewCLI is a resident, but not sure about NewShell)
[04:48] <Ahmuck> thx Jucato, sorry about the past
[04:48] <Ahmuck> er paste
[04:48] <Dr_willis> LjL,  no idea. :P i tend to do simple 5 line scripts..
[04:48] <Dr_willis> LjL,  i grew up scripting in REXX :)
[04:48] <LjL> aw, REXX.
[04:49] <Dr_willis> aha! a good hit on google for 'dash'
[04:49] <Dr_willis> Debian Almquist shell
[04:49] <Ahmuck> there was this little program, when i began using dapper beta that dropped down the konsole from the top by pressing a f(something) key.  i forget what it was
[04:49] <LjL> Dr_willis: the interpreter was the first thing i deleted from the Workbench disk to make space for my gadgets :P
[04:49] <Dr_willis> google for that. :P not 'dash' heh heh
[04:49] <Jucato> !yakuake > Ahmuck
[04:49] <twosouls82> there are too many dashes on Google :P
[04:49] <Dr_willis> LjL,  the rexx interfaces with my editors and databases saved me many a day of work
[04:49] <Jucato> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Almquist_shell
[04:49] <Ahmuck> and last but not least, is there a way to turn of advanced mode on the system menu ?
[04:50] <Jucato> Ahmuck: what do you mean advanced mode?
[04:50] <LjL> Dr_willis: sure, i'm just kidding, i never used it but i'm sure it was great to have something like that, with so many programs supporting it
[04:50] <BlueEagle> !flash
[04:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:50] <Ahmuck> nm, it is working now.
[04:51] <Jucato> Dr_willis: so it seems DASH is very closely related to ash (Almquist Shell)?
[04:51] <twosouls82> Jucato: it is a port of it
[04:51] <LjL> Dr_willis: i mean, now we're all excited at how you can use DCOP to "magically" talk to applications from anywhere else... wow! great new feature of the 2000's! ;-)
[04:51] <Jucato> yeah
[04:51] <Jucato> so basically, research ash, and you research dash :)
[04:51] <twosouls82> yeppers
[04:52] <twosouls82> mostly
[04:53] <Ahmuck> so edgy moved to dash ?
[04:53] <Ahmuck> away from bash ?
[04:53] <gnomefreak> Ahmuck: system uses dash
[04:53] <Dr_willis> LjL,  its a great feature that takes how long to figure out?
[04:53] <gnomefreak> Ahmuck: end user uses bash by default
[04:53] <Ahmuck> ah
[04:53] <Ahmuck> why the change ?
[04:53] <Dr_willis> LjL,  vs the simple rexx scripts. :P
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Ahmuck,  to confuse people! :P
[04:54] <Dr_willis> amazing thoing about DASH.. is how little real docs i can find on it!
[04:55] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: too new :)
[04:55] <naruto> hello
[04:55] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  i guess thats why its in 'edgy'
[04:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:55] <gnomefreak> btw no debian release uses dash
[04:55] <gnomefreak> from my understanding
[04:55] <Hawkwind> So how can a user switch Edgy from dash back to bash ?  Seems I know several users who can't get bash scripts to work properly because of this dash stuff
[04:56] <Jucato> why the hell then did they call it Debian Almquist Shell?
[04:56] <twosouls82> why the change after all these years.. while Dash originates from back to 1997
[04:56] <twosouls82> ?
[04:56] <Jucato> O_o
[04:56] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  i hate to say it.. but i think switching back to bash may be a good idea..
[04:56] <Dr_willis> scripts not working right? They may be using #!/bin/sh when they should be using #!/bin/bash # To set Bash to replace Dash  dpkg-reconfigure -plow dash to set up bash as your scripts 'sh' shell. BEST to  Fix the Script.
[04:56] <omar> Hello guys, I am from Sierra Leona, I have a problem with my partitions, I uses to have a windows (3Gb) and kbuntu (37 Gb) and I install kubuntu edgy with 20 Gb , and I resize my windows with 20 Gb without reinstalling it, But know I just can see 3Gb of windws, How can I show everything
[04:56] <Dr_willis> Hawkwind,  good enough for ya?
[04:56] <Jucato> Dr_willis: wasn't that the "hack" that imbrandn didn't approve of?
[04:56] <GnarusLeo>  I get this error while trying to mount in truecrypt after upgrading to edgy! FATAL: Module truecrypt not found.
[04:56] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  no this is what the actual devs say to do
[04:57] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  he got mad at my implication of 'fixing' dash by removing it. :P
[04:57] <Jucato> Dr_willis: ah.
[04:57] <Jucato> he's a dev, too, anyway :)
[04:57] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  the forums also say use 'ln -s whatever'' but i think the proper way is to use dpkg.
[04:57] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  some of the dev's need to get in touch with reality. :P
[04:57] <Dr_willis> but what do I know. im just a BOFH.
[04:58] <Jucato> hm.. probably someday it should be in /etc/alternatives... :P
[04:58] <Jucato> BOFH?
[04:58] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  i thought thats what the  dpkg-reconfigure did.. but wait. thats a seperate system
[04:58] <LjL> Dr_willis, i dunno, i don't run that many scripts, but... hey, when you do stuff to improve stuff, stuff sometimes breaks. it's life ;)
[04:58] <Jucato> Dr_willis: that's different
[04:58] <Dr_willis> LjL,  right.. but from what i reading on dash vs bash in posix mode.. there shouldent be any breakage..
[04:59] <Dr_willis> still aint found any good info on it however.
[04:59] <LjL> Dr_willis: well, isn't that correct, strictly speaking?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> LjL,  right.. the core of what i am reading  i think is  that when /bin/sh is a link to bash, and you call #!/bin/sh  - Bash should kick into Posix compatiabilty mode.
[05:00] <Jucato> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh
[05:00] <Dr_willis> so all these scripts that are breaking because they depend on bash features..  have been using bash in posix mode.  which shouldent have any  extra bash features to use.
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  read at the end...
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Data preservation and migration --->   No user accounts or existing scripts need to be changed.
[05:01] <Dr_willis> ok i guess 'user' scripts.. :) actually wait - thats not right.
[05:01] <Jucato> Dr_willis: I'm just posting links. I don't read them :P
[05:02] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  ive read most all of them.. and    weighing the pros and cons.
[05:02] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: read the bottom of that spec page. its about your tabletpc
[05:02] <gnomefreak> :)
[05:02] <Dr_willis> they are refering to the audit that took place because the N770 used dash
[05:02] <gnomefreak> later all
[05:02] <Dr_willis> i think
[05:03] <Dr_willis> Im sure we will hear more of this. :) in the future
[05:03] <twosouls82> later gnomefreak
[05:04] <LjL> Dr_willis, well, i can confirm that at least one bash extension gets disabled when invoked as #!/bin/sh -- namely, (( VAR = VAR + 1 )) only works with #!/bin/bash
[05:04] <GnarusLeo> shoud /bin/bash be "chmod a+rx" ?
[05:04] <LjL> no wait, what the heck am i saying... i *am* on edgy, so my /bin/sh is *dash*. bla
[05:05] <Jucato> lol
[05:05] <Dr_willis> LjL,  heh...
[05:05] <Dr_willis> well i gotta go eat.. LjL  lets make up a wiki page on what the heck is going on. :P
[05:05] <Dr_willis> and get the dev's mad at us.
[05:05] <Dr_willis> bbl
[05:05] <twosouls82> I get the change, I think I will be able to get used to dash as a system shell
[05:06] <Dr_willis> twosouls82,  i dont see any benifit really.  i guess.
[05:06] <Dr_willis> and i still thinkit should be an 'opt in' feature to set dash, not default to it.
[05:06] <GnarusLeo> of changing to sh?
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Lunch time.
[05:06] <omar> Guys Why I can't do nothing in qtparted, is there another way to resize partitios?
[05:06] <twosouls82> I do; read the cases here; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh
[05:06] <Fator_Dee> um, another thing, it seems that now single click activates, I want to change it to double click, where's the config for that :-|
[05:06] <twosouls82> don't read it for you personally, but as for the main public
[05:06] <twosouls82> :)
[05:07] <twosouls82> Dr_willis: you can change back if you don't mind the speedgains of your system to be gone
[05:07] <Fator_Dee> ah, found it, thanks anyway
[05:08] <franz> (newbie question) my javac is version 1.5, while my java is in version 1.4.2 ....how can i change javac to 1.4.2 or java to 1.5 ? :-)
[05:08] <twosouls82> franz: look into update-alternatives
[05:09] <franz> thanks twosouls82 :-)
[05:09] <twosouls82> np :)
[05:09] <Jucato> "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[05:10] <Ahmuck> wow, this single click mouse thing is going to change my life
[05:11] <franz> thanks jucato :-) i'll try that too :-)
[05:11] <Jucato> Ahmuck: you can change it to double click if you want
[05:11] <Ahmuck> er, the automatic mouse click thing
[05:11] <Ahmuck> i like that feature
[05:11] <twosouls82> Jucato: I thought; "let me give him a hunch, so he gan figure it out"
[05:11] <twosouls82> s/gan/can
[05:12] <Jucato> twosouls82: oh sorry :)
[05:12] <GnarusLeo> is dapper and edgy bot ubuntu 6.06?
[05:12] <dude_> jucato: are you using xgl or beryl?
[05:12] <twosouls82> nevermind ;)
[05:12] <Goong> Hi everybody
[05:12] <Jucato> but he might inadvertedly mess up :)
[05:12] <twosouls82> beryl here! :D
[05:12] <Jucato> GnarusLeo: Edgy is 6.10
[05:12] <Jucato> dude_: nope
[05:12] <GnarusLeo> Jucato, ok .
[05:12] <twosouls82> hi Goong
[05:12] <Goong> i have a problem about wifi card
[05:12] <twosouls82> what problem?
[05:12] <Goong> Hi twosouls82
[05:12] <twosouls82> !ask
[05:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:13] <Goong> uhm.. i using kubuntu 6.10
[05:13] <dude_> jucato: why?
[05:13] <Goong> i see wifi card
[05:13] <Goong> but it disenable
[05:13] <Jucato> dude_: just haven't gotten around to setting it up :)
[05:13] <dude_> jucato: ok
[05:13] <Goong> then i go to network setting and enable it
[05:13] <twosouls82> Goong: have you installed any drivers for it?
[05:14] <Goong> but when i enable it.. it will disnable it automatic everytime
[05:14] <Goong> twosouls82 : i haven't
[05:15] <twosouls82> Goong: I guess you will have too... which card?
[05:15] <Ahmuck> whohoo, no more adept notifier
[05:15] <Jucato> Ahmuck: huh?
[05:15] <Ahmuck> nice and clean again.  i realllly reallly like the automatic mouse btw
[05:15] <twosouls82> you can always diable the notifier
[05:15] <Goong> uhm..  it's broadcom buit-in card
[05:15] <Ahmuck> Jucato: i had packages in adept that would not update until i used aptitude, 4 times in a row
[05:15] <Jucato> ah :)
[05:16] <Ahmuck> now everything is resolved
[05:16] <twosouls82> Goong: what brand? what model?
[05:16] <twosouls82> :\
[05:16] <Goong> i guess it's Broadcom 4413 buit-in card on Compaq M2215
[05:17] <Goong> i'll check it now
[05:17] <twosouls82> please do :)
[05:17] <GnarusLeo> Goong, lspci will give you that :)
[05:17] <sysdoc> Hey guys I have KDE and Gnome, and when in KDE I seem to have lost my volume button on the panel. Can someone tell me how to get it back?
[05:17] <twosouls82> lspci | grep wifi
[05:18] <Goong> ya. it's  BCM 4318
[05:18] <Lynoure> sysdoc: try K-menu > multimedia > kmix,  I think that restarts the applet
[05:18] <twosouls82> Goong: here's the deal, we both start Googling it
[05:19] <GnarusLeo> Goong, im affraid you have to use ndiswrapper
[05:19] <sysdoc> Lynoure, that's it thanks
[05:20] <Goong> i've ever use ndiswrapper once
[05:20] <Goong> but it not work
[05:20] <GnarusLeo> Goong, you need the original windows drivers (.inf .sys .dll +++) ... then install ndiswrapper
[05:20] <GnarusLeo> Goong, it worked on my other two laptops :)
[05:20] <Lynoure> sysdoc: :)
[05:20] <Goong> ok i'll try it again
[05:20] <GnarusLeo> Goong, and with that card I really think you do ... so says the allmighty google
[05:20] <twosouls82> indeed GnarusLeo and Goong... Goong has to use the ndiswrapper for it, to quote; "t works perfectly with ndiswrapper"
[05:21] <twosouls82> Goong:  step by step tut: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177
[05:22] <GnarusLeo> easy algoritm :) "sudo ndiswrapper -i driver.inf" "sudo ndiswrapper -m" blacklist the other modules, "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" check if iwconfig shows your new interface
[05:22] <Goong> Aha..great  thank twosouls82
[05:23] <twosouls82> GnarusLeo: indeed, just like the page says
[05:23] <GnarusLeo> :)
[05:23] <twosouls82> (Y)
[05:23] <GnarusLeo> but ndiswrapper can be a pain in the ass
[05:23] <Goong> ^^ Thanks all
[05:23] <twosouls82> that's why the link for Goong
[05:23] <Goong> i'll try agian
[05:23] <twosouls82> np Goong
[05:23] <Goong> bye
[05:24] <_mathieu> I need help setting up my monitor on ym laptop
[05:24] <GnarusLeo> whats wrong with it?
[05:24] <_mathieu> I have an ATI X600, res: 1280x800; right now it "clones" the image on the 2nd monitor
[05:24] <_mathieu> which doesnt support resolution
[05:24] <cps1966> W: Failed to fetch http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[05:24] <cps1966>   MD5Sum mismatch
[05:25] <GnarusLeo> _mathieu, are you using the fglrx drivers?
[05:25] <_mathieu> yes
[05:25] <_mathieu> if possible, I'd like to have screen 1 on the monitor, and screen 2 on the laptop panel, and automatically switch if the monitor gets unplugged
[05:25] <GnarusLeo> my girlfriend just arrived, sorry :) gotta go
[05:25] <twosouls82> _mathieu: this helped me setting up my mutihead layout; http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[05:25] <echo1> What is a good program for managing laptop proc and changing it between performance and power save
[05:26] <twosouls82> GnarusLeo: have a nice time, relax
[05:26] <twosouls82> :)
[05:26] <_ale> guys I've a problem
[05:26] <_ale> after upgrade to edgy when I boot I have to force graphic with ctrl-alt-f7
[05:26] <_ale> is there a solution?
[05:26] <_mathieu> twosouls82: ill check thatout thanks
[05:26] <omar> Hello guys, I am from Sierra Leona, I have a problem with my partitions, I uses to have a windows (3Gb) and kbuntu (37 Gb) and I install kubuntu edgy with 20 Gb , and I resize my windows with 20 Gb without reinstalling it, But know I just can see 3Gb of windws, How can I show everything
[05:26] <twosouls82> welcome :)
[05:27] <twosouls82> omar: I can't imagine you did a proper resize
[05:28] <twosouls82> omar: what does fdisk or cfdisk show you?
[05:29] <omar> twosouls82  fdisk shows me disks but cfdisk shows me fatal error
[05:29] <twosouls82> omar: I assume your partition table is messed up
[05:29] <twosouls82> what error omar?
[05:30] <omar> twosouls82
[05:30] <omar>  FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[05:30] <omar>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[05:30] <BlueEagle> omar: sudo?
[05:30] <twosouls82> :)
[05:30] <Jonty_> Is there an easy way to find out what version of Kubuntuy I'm running?
[05:30] <BlueEagle> jonty_: Kubuntuy?
[05:30] <Jucato> Jonty_: in Konsole: "lsb_release -a"
[05:30] <twosouls82> Jonty_: open up kcontrol
[05:30] <omar> twosouls82 :( sorry
[05:30] <twosouls82> ow, even better
[05:30] <Jucato> twosouls82: won't work :)
[05:30] <BluesKaj> omar, download a partition organizer called "GParted Live CD". Be sure to get the latest version ...it will help you resize your partitions . yOu can find it at this site : http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=173828
[05:31] <Jucato> twosouls82: KControl will only showyou the kernel and KDE version
[05:31] <omar> twosouls82 look it shows the disk with 20 Gb
[05:31] <twosouls82> hehe, I saw it, my bad
[05:31] <omar> twosouls82 but I can see mounted just 3
[05:31] <twosouls82> suse did show it's version there
[05:31] <twosouls82> :\
[05:31] <_ale> someone else experiencing not launching of X at the start and should press ctrl-alt-f7???
[05:31] <Ahmuck> _ale laptop ?
[05:31] <Jonty_> Jucato: Will that show me whether it's an RC or not?
[05:31] <twosouls82> omar: and so you're missing?
[05:32] <_ale> Ahmuck: yes
[05:32] <Jucato> Jonty_: no.
[05:32] <Ahmuck> _ale: hp ?
[05:32] <_ale> Ahmuck: no asus with sis integrated 740
[05:32] <Jonty_> Jucato: How do I know that
[05:32] <omar> twosouls82 yes in the storage media there is a hd1 with 3 gb, but in the cfdisk there is a NTFS -hd1 with 20
[05:32] <Ahmuck> _ale: i had the same problem with an hp.  i was unable to fix it
[05:32] <Jucato> Jonty_: just do an update and you'll be using the latest
[05:33] <Ahmuck> i did a dist-upgrade however
[05:33] <_ale> Ahmuck: yes switched from dapper to edgy and now there is this problem
[05:33] <CpuWhiz> my problem with edgy: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/cpuwhiz/KubuntuInstallNotLettingMeContinue.png
[05:34] <twosouls82> omar: can you see files on the disk, that where there? if so, back them up and make the ntfs from outside Windows, and re-place the files lateron
[05:34] <Jonty_> Jucato: Ok, have done and I'm alright, must have got it early or something
[05:35] <omar> twosouls82 wait I don't get, English is not my first language :)
[05:35] <twosouls82> CpuWhiz: does it change when you check 'format' for '/'?
[05:35] <omar> twosouls82 I can see the files I used to have
[05:35] <CpuWhiz> twosouls82: nope
[05:35] <omar> twosouls82 but just 3 Gb, I wan 20 there, even though I gave 20 to the ntfs-hd1 when I install kubuntu edgy, you know, I incressed the partition
[05:36] <twosouls82> omar:  then move them to another partition and recreate the ntfs partition (of 30GB) in Windows, and then move the files back to this new partition
[05:36] <_ale> Ahmuck: also you have EE in xorg.0.log? I have this -> Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[05:36] <Ahmuck> no.  i am not currently at that machine.  because it was a test machine and nothing critical i have decided to get the cd and do a new install
[05:36] <omar> twosouls82 do you think I will work without messing windows?
[05:36] <twosouls82> CpuWhiz: I saw somthing like this on launchpad
[05:37] <omar> twosouls82 what software I can use? qtparted
[05:37] <twosouls82> omar: as long as it's not the "C:" partition
[05:37] <Ahmuck> would it have something to do with laptop buttons ?
[05:37] <twosouls82> omar: preferable manage ntfs from windows
[05:37] <twosouls82> preferably
[05:37] <_ale> Ahmuck: don't know, very annoying
[05:38] <Ahmuck> agreed
[05:38] <omar> twosouls82 it is the C partition
[05:39] <omar> twosouls82 In windows I can see just 3 gb too
[05:39] <Zarephath> Is there a boot configuration GUI in KDE?
[05:39] <twosouls82> omar: in that case, try to avoid formatting it
[05:39] <twosouls82> :)
[05:39] <omar> twosouls82 well, that let me more confused
[05:41] <twosouls82> what did you use to resize it omar?
[05:41] <twosouls82> ntfsresize?
[05:41] <Ace2016> hi all
[05:41] <Ace2016> what do i have to put in my sources.list to get limewire or frostwire?
[05:42] <omar> qtparted while installing kubuntu edgy
[05:42] <twosouls82> omar: try this page; http://man.linux-ntfs.org/ntfsresize.8.html , and  mind the "Enlargement" section
[05:42] <twosouls82> I am off for now
[05:45] <CpuWhiz> twosouls82: I found the launchpad entry, thanks
[05:49] <Electrolyte> Is there an IRC channel for OpenAL?
[05:49] <Electrolyte> Need some help compiling it.
[05:51] <Jonty_> How can I make alt codes work in KDE or get a similar alternative?
[05:54] <Zerb_Riss> is there a way to switch away from the amd64 kubuntu to the x86 one?
[05:56] <Ace2016> reinstall?
[05:57] <Zerb_Riss> heh
[05:57] <fdoving> Zerb_Riss: as ace2016 says, reinstall is probably the best way to go.
[05:57] <nrg88> any edgy devs around?
[05:57] <nrg88> downloaded the "stable" dvd version
[05:58] <nrg88> but i have a serious problem
[05:58] <nrg88> my soundserver keeps crashing
[05:58] <nrg88> saying:
[05:58] <nrg88> Sound server fatal error:
[05:58] <nrg88> cpu overload, aborting
[05:58] <nrg88> i have a VIA chipset, with a cmedia soundcard: 8235
[05:59] <eilker> is there a thing called easykubuntu ??
[05:59] <twenty2sixty> hi! the wallet on my recently upgraded dapper->edgy box doesn't safe any more passwords! each time i restart the system, all entries in the wallet are gone... funily, all 'old' entries (from the dapper-times) still remain & work
[05:59] <twenty2sixty> any idea what might cause this?
[06:00] <eilker> how can i add java support to kubuntu for web pages ? new linux user here
[06:01] <armando> ola
[06:01] <fdoving> !java | eilker
[06:01] <ubotu> eilker: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:01] <armando> alguien de espaa
[06:01] <armando> ????????????????
[06:01] <nrg88> btw, arts is crashing
[06:01] <Zerb_Riss> !es > armando
[06:01] <fdoving> twenty2sixty: try the workaround described at: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/67521
[06:01] <nrg88> how can i completely remove it from kubuntu?
[06:01] <fdoving> twenty2sixty: let me know if it works.
[06:02] <twenty2sixty> fdoving: Thanks!
[06:02] <Kiongku> !es
[06:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:02] <fdoving> nrg88: you can't. it's a essential part. You can however disable it.
[06:02] <ibert> is the kubuntu site hacked? http://www.kubuntu.de/
[06:02] <nrg88> how? :(
[06:02] <fdoving> nrg88: kmenu -> system settings -> sound system -> uncheck enable soundsystem.
[06:02] <nrg88> itt freezez up edgy
[06:02] <armando> alguien habla espaol
[06:03] <Zerb_Riss> !es | armando
[06:03] <ubotu> armando: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:03] <fdoving> ibert: the official kubuntu site is http://kubuntu.org
[06:04] <ibert> fdoving: I see.
[06:04] <twenty2sixty> fdoving: Restarting user-session now ... wish me luck! :-)
[06:04] <fdoving> twenty2sixty: good luck :)
[06:05] <eilker> fdoving: do we have "show desktop" button in panel? i cant find it
[06:05] <nrg88> fdoving: i still get the " 4794 ?        S      0:00 artsmessage -e Sound server fatal error:??cpu overload, aborting" in every 20 seconds
[06:05] <eilker> fdoving: like "launch desktop"
[06:06] <fdoving> eilker: I have it. hang on.
[06:06] <eilker> fdoving: oki friend
[06:10] <fdoving> eilker: right click on the panel -> Add Applet to panel..
[06:10] <eilker> fdoving: ok than?
[06:10] <fdoving> eilker: search for 'show' and you'll find 'show desktop'
[06:11] <eilker> fdoving: thanx sir:)
[06:11] <fdoving> eilker: you're welcome :)
[06:11] <twenty2sixty> fdoving: I'm back & it works! Thanks so much for this!
[06:12] <fdoving> twenty2sixty: you're welcome, thanks for the feedback.
[06:12] <twenty2sixty> fdoving: A silly bug though, isn't it?
[06:12] <echo1> I need some help from a laptop user.  I have a 1.6ghz centrino and its stuck at 800mhz,  no matter what I do I can
[06:13] <echo1> I need some help from a laptop user.  I have a 1.6ghz centrino and its stuck at 800mhz,  no matter what I do I can get it to throttle between 800 and 1.7
[06:13] <echo1> 1.6*
[06:13] <fdoving> twenty2sixty: very silly. Can I quote the messages your wrote in this channel and add it to the bugreport?
[06:13] <twenty2sixty> fdoving: The 'silly bug' part, too? ;-)
[06:14] <fdoving> twenty2sixty: no, your first question, and the 'i'm back & it works' part.
[06:15] <twenty2sixty> fdoving: Yes, of course! Thanks for asking! I'm off re-typing all passwords now so that kwallet finally 'remembers' ... :-) Thanks again for your help! Bye!
[06:17] <echo1> Can anyone help me out?  I didnt have this problem in dapper but i had to install from scratch because edgy broke things.  How can I get cpu throttling working?
[06:17] <BluesKaj> Still no answer to the screensaver puzzle/bug in KDE 3.5.5 !
[06:17] <Rajah3000> can anyone tell me If there is a webpage of command lines for use in terminal on Kubuntu?
[06:18] <Kiongku> Rajah3000: any linux commands should run in the terminal
[06:18] <fdoving> !cli
[06:18] <profibadan> hello
[06:18] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:18] <BluesKaj> Rajah3000, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:18] <Rajah3000> Nice, that is what I was thinking, but wanted to be sure
[06:19] <Rajah3000> Thanks
[06:19] <TehUni> did something happen to the plf repo? packages.freecontrib.org doesnt seem to work anymore.
[06:19] <echo1> I need help, I seem to have setup the wrong keyboard type - how do I change it to a normal US keyboard?
[06:20] <profibadan> hello yvonne
[06:20] <Dr_willis> TehUni,  it was up last week.. i think it may fof stopped supporting ubuntu
[06:20] <TehUni> that sucks!
[06:21] <TehUni> packages.freecontrib.org is down completely though...
[06:21] <TehUni> even just freecontrib.org
[06:21] <Dr_willis> it may be down then
[06:22] <Kiongku> echo1: system settings --> regional and accessibility --> keyboard layout?
[06:22] <fdoving> TehUni: looks like dns trouble.
[06:22] <echo1> woot, thanks Kiongku
[06:23] <Kiongku> yw
[06:23] <BluesKaj> echo1, i recomend that you update kde and once that is done reboot and the language and country options will open before KDE loads
[06:24] <echo1> BluesKaj: i fixed it, simple check box needed to be checked
[06:24] <BluesKaj> cool :)
[06:24] <echo1> but now, can anyone help me get my cpu throttling working?
[06:24] <echo1> in dapper it was fine, in edgy it doenst work
[06:24] <echo1> im stuck in 800mhz, i want to be able to switch between 800 and 1.6
[06:24] <profibadan> hello yvone
[06:24] <Kiongku> never tried that stuff so no idea.
[06:25] <BluesKaj> sorry echo1, dunno about that
[06:25] <echo1> hmm
[06:26] <fdoving> echo1: do you have powernowd installed?
[06:26] <Kiongku> !powernowd
[06:26] <ubotu> powernowd: control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kernel interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[06:26] <fdoving> !powernowd edgy
[06:26] <ubotu> powernowd: control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kernel interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 120 kB
[06:26] <echo1> let me check
[06:29] <echo1> i did not, now it is
[06:30] <fdoving> does it work?
[06:30] <echo1> k powersave has no options now
[06:30] <fdoving> do you use kpowersave?
[06:31] <echo1> Well what else can I use
[06:31] <fdoving> guidance-powermanager ?
[06:31] <fdoving> is this edgy?
[06:31] <echo1> yes
[06:31] <fdoving> kde-guidance-powermanager
[06:31] <fdoving> !info kde-guidance-powermanager
[06:31] <ubotu> kde-guidance-powermanager: HAL based Power Manager Applet. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.0-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 96 kB, installed size 308 kB
[06:31] <echo1> it only has suspend and hibernate options
[06:31] <echo1> perhaps ill try a reboot?
[06:31] <fdoving> you can try. don't know if it'll help though.
[06:33] <james> in dapper, i am trying to enable zeroconf browsing, but i get this error: Command '/usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi 1' not found. any suggestions?
[06:34] <GNUro> root@arpstorm:~/Wireless# /usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi
[06:34] <GNUro> Invalid argument (must be 0 or 1)
[06:34] <GNUro> install avahi?
[06:34] <fdoving> james: do you have the package 'avahi-daemon' installed?
[06:34] <james> fdoving: yes
[06:34] <james> avahi and related packages are installed
[06:34] <fdoving> james: doesn't it include /usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi ?
[06:34] <echo1> ok so i restarted
[06:34] <fdoving> james: 'dpkg -S /usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi'
[06:35] <GNUro> root@arpstorm:~/Wireless# dpkg -S /usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi
[06:35] <GNUro> avahi-daemon: /usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi
[06:35] <james> fdoving: apparently not
[06:35] <james> ok let me try that
[06:35] <echo1> powermanager only has suspend and hibernate
[06:36] <fdoving> james: you're right.
[06:36] <james> i got: dpkg: /usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi not found.
[06:37] <echo1> fdoving: any ideas?
[06:37] <james> by the way, zeroconf browsing works great in edgy... but i don't want edgy on this laptop just yet...
[06:37] <fdoving> james: i can publish my enable_avahi and avahi_status - you can try them, is this kde 3.5.5 from kubuntu.org?
[06:37] <some0ne> What happened to the sounds kwin made in Dapper?
[06:37] <james> fdoving: yes, this is kde3.5.5
[06:38] <fdoving> james: that explains it. kde 3.5.5 is optimised for edgy, only backported to dapper, small fixes like this is not cared about as it isn't official kde 3.5.5.
[06:38] <james> ahh
[06:39] <fdoving> james: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/avahi-dapper/
[06:39] <nabil> hi there can someone help me installaing ati package in kubuntu
[06:39] <james> so, am i out of luck on this machine?
[06:39] <james> ok, ill look at that
[06:39] <fdoving> james: put those in /usr/share/avahi/ and make them executable. (chmod +x file)
[06:39] <james> fdoving: ty
[06:39] <some0ne> nabil: Sure what part are you on?
[06:40] <liquidat> Hey...
[06:40] <fdoving> james: let me know if it works :)
[06:40] <james> fdoving: i will
[06:40] <liquidat> I'm checking a bug at the moment, and need someone to verify it - is there anyone here who has a flickr account and runs KDE 3.5.5?
[06:40] <nickv111> Hey
[06:41] <nickv111> Um, I just did an apt-get update and an apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:41] <nickv111> I'm using Edgy
[06:41] <dude_> jucato: ok
[06:41] <nickv111> And it wants to remove the following packages:   initscripts startup-tasks system-services ubuntu-base ubuntu-minimal upstart   upstart-compat-sysv upstart-logd
[06:41] <echo1> fdoving: powernodd is installed now but i still cant seem to control freq
[06:41] <nickv111> Is that okay?
[06:41] <dude_> guys, question
[06:42] <waspy> how can i find the total size of a directory and it's subdirectories?
[06:42] <some0ne> du -sh <directory>
[06:42] <waspy> in a console
[06:42] <waspy> thanks
[06:42] <Zarephath> I seem to be missing my trash can on the desktop. How to add or enable it in KDE?
[06:43] <fdoving> echo1: powernowd is supposed to do that job for you. Does it increase the cpu speed if you run cpu intensive programs?
[06:43] <Rajah3000> What would be an example in code to install a program in terminal?
[06:43] <liquidat> Hm, no one with a flickr account? Would be helpfull in the bug hunt...
[06:43] <nabil> james i dont have access to /usr/share/avahi
[06:43] <OOD> Zarephath: make a link to location on the desktop (right click) and type in trash:/ for the location
[06:43] <fdoving> nabil: you would need to be root or use sudo do do stuff there.
[06:43] <echo1> i just opned about 30 instances of firefox - still 800
[06:43] <dude_> fdoving: need you expertise
[06:44] <dude_> fdoving: need your expertise
[06:44] <SHRIKEE> :o
[06:44] <fdoving> dude_: go on :)
[06:44] <nabil> james pls am a newbie i dont know the command
[06:45] <dude_> fdoving: my sister is planning to get a laptop, can you suggest a brand that is cool
[06:45] <miyako> I just upgraded from to edgy and I'm having some problems with the nvidia driver.  I was running the beta driver, and when I try to start X I get an error that the kernel module is 1.0-7184 but the X module is 1.0-9625.  Running "rmmod nvidia" then "modprobe nvidia" to reload the driver allows me to start X fine, so it seems like something is configured to load the wrong version of the driver at boot time, but I'm not sure how to go about f
[06:45] <miyako> err, upgraded to edgy*
[06:45] <SHRIKEE> dude_: sony and toshibas are cool
[06:46] <Zarephath> OOD: Thanks
[06:46] <katlyn> Hey; I have a question about adept updater
[06:46] <fdoving> dude_: I don't do hardware. But my sister got a cheap toshiba that works nicely for her use. I have a iBook G4. My father got a FSC Amilo. Lenovos are nice too.
[06:46] <fdoving> katlyn: ok. what is it?
[06:46] <katlyn> How do I tell Adept I don't want to update a certain package? Because I instaleld an older Wine to use IE.. and now Adept is bugging me to install a newer one.. and I don't to because it'll break IE.
[06:47] <OOD> Zarephath: np
[06:47] <twosouls82_> miyako: I had the same, this solved it: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA
[06:47] <SHRIKEE> why would you want to use IE on linux :o
[06:47] <katlyn> I tried locking the version in Synaptic, which didn't work
[06:47] <twosouls82_> omg IE?
[06:47] <dude_> can i paste the specs and can you send me your comment
[06:47] <katlyn> LOL... I need it to watch videos for my history course.. asx videos; they won't work properly in Linux.. and I don't wanna boot into windows
[06:47] <SHRIKEE> fair enough
[06:47] <katlyn> I use Firefox for everything else
[06:48] <SHRIKEE> but there are codecs you know ;)
[06:48] <xsacha> gah .asx videos usually open popups and whatnot
[06:48] <fdoving> katlyn: there is no real good solution for that if locking doesn't work. It can be done though.
[06:48] <katlyn> I tried to get it working before.. I spent an entire night.. it will only play crappily in MPlayer.. and if I pause it it'll start playing over again.. and I can't scan through the stream
[06:48] <SHRIKEE> im not sure if they include asx but theres a w32codecs package in the universe rep
[06:49] <twosouls82_> !restrictedformats | katlyn
[06:49] <ubotu> katlyn: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:49] <nabil> can someone help me to install ati drivers in kubuntu
[06:49] <Zarephath> OOD: I am trying to playback video off of the google link and it can't install the plugin...I am running Kubuntu PPC what can I do?
[06:49] <xsacha> katlyn: last resort if you cant find a codec or something: use wine :D
[06:49] <katlyn> I do use Wine... but IE won't work with the latest version and Adept is bugging me to update Wine
[06:49] <OOD> Zarephath: there is no ppc linux flash version
[06:50] <katlyn> Maybe it'll work if I lock the version in Adept instead of Synaptic.. can I do that?
[06:50] <Kiongku> katlyn: just leave it alone for now  ( '')
[06:50] <manish> can anybody tell me how to install yahoo messager on ubuntu
[06:50] <SHRIKEE> kill the auto updater
[06:50] <dude_> SHRIKEE: can i talk to you in private?
[06:50] <SHRIKEE> sure dude_
[06:50] <Kiongku> manish: u sure u cant access it from kopete?
[06:50] <SHRIKEE> kill the auto updater, check manually do preview changes and unselect the packages you dont want
[06:50] <miyako> hmm, that page on the beryl-project wiki doesn't really seem to be much help, it covers all of the steps that I've taken, but doesn't address my problem :(
[06:50] <SHRIKEE> :)
[06:50] <OOD> Zarephath: try to compile the latest gnash cvs(opensource flash project) http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[06:51] <twosouls82_> manish: read http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html and look at "Debian Linux:"
[06:51] <fdoving> katlyn: can you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy wine' (run in kmenu -> system -> konsole)
[06:51] <melkart> pppoeconf worked fine for me under 6.06, but doesnt under 6.10. plog says ""Timeout waiting for PADS packets" and "Unable to complete PPPoE Discovery". can anybody help?
[06:52] <twosouls82_> manish: Kopete does Yahoo too
[06:52] <SHRIKEE> i use yahoo in kopete it works fine
[06:52] <twosouls82_> indeed it does
[06:52] <twosouls82_> :)
[06:52] <katlyn> Alright.. hold on
[06:53] <katlyn> wine:
[06:53] <katlyn>   Installed: 0.9.5-winehq-1
[06:53] <katlyn>   Candidate: 0.9.22-0ubuntu3
[06:53] <katlyn>   Version table:
[06:53] <katlyn>      0.9.22-0ubuntu3 0
[06:53] <katlyn>         500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages
[06:53] <katlyn>  *** 0.9.5-winehq-1 0
[06:53] <katlyn>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[06:53] <katlyn> There it is
[06:53] <fdoving> ok.
[06:53] <fdoving> !paste
[06:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:53] <echo1> ok, im getting really frustrated.  Nothing I do will make my cpu throttle up to 1.6
[06:53] <fdoving> use that next time.
[06:53] <katlyn> Alright.. sorry, I don't know anything about IRC
[06:53] <SHRIKEE> haha
[06:53] <SHRIKEE> you managed to get on irc, thats a good start
[06:54] <Kiongku> lol
[06:54] <katlyn> And Im registered.. Im jsut using Konversation; its easy
[06:54] <SHRIKEE> konversation owns!
[06:54] <SHRIKEE> i love it
[06:54] <fdoving> katlyn: it's ok. you can hack this. but if you mess this up your system can break. Do you want me to tell you how? :)
[06:54] <twosouls82_> after 3 years of linux I found out about IRC :P
[06:54] <echo1> How can i check if my kernel has what it needs to change cpu clock
[06:54] <fdoving> katlyn: it won't break if you do exactly as i say.
[06:54] <katlyn> Errr.... uuh.. I dunnoo... I mean.... I don't.. wanna.... reinstall...
[06:54] <katlyn> but.. sure.. what the heck..
[06:55] <OOD> echo1: you mean powersaving underclocking?
[06:55] <katlyn> U can PM me if want
[06:55] <echo1> yes.  Except at the moment im underclocked to 800mhz and i cant get up to my regular of 1.6
[06:55] <miyako> well, I'm tired of messing with this, I'll just set up a startup script to unload and reload the kernel module and be done with it for now, not like I reboot that often
[06:55] <Zarephath> OOD great will do...restricted formats wasn't doing much for me..
[06:55] <twosouls82_> katlyn: so you're already regged as well, you're faster than a lot around here
[06:56] <OOD> echo1: it should go back up to full speed once the cpu load goes up
[06:56] <nabil> can someone help me to install ati drivers in kubuntu edgy
[06:56] <nabil> can someone help me to install ati drivers in kubuntu edgy
[06:56] <baro> no
[06:56] <twosouls82_> nabil, don't start nagging us
[06:56] <twosouls82_> just ask, and wait
[06:56] <nabil> ok
[06:57] <fdoving> katlyn: ok. What you're about to do, is editing the file that keeps track of installed packages, and versions, in kubuntu. What I suggest doing, is changing the versionnumber in that file, to be the same as the version number of the available version adept wants you to upgrade to. This is the best solution. Putting things on hold or pinning will not upgrade it, but adept notifier will tell you you have 1 package that needs to be updated, constantly.
[06:57] <echo1> OOD: I'd like to be able to manage it (my laptop gets hot so i run 800mhz regardless, unless i decide to play a game or somethign)
[06:57] <Rede> hey i just installed edgy (formatted, clean install) and my wifi isn't working... but it worked perfectly in dapper, wlassistant fails to connect if i use dhcp of if i do manual input of ip, netmask, broadcast, etc.. it does find the network i want to connect to when i scan tho
[06:57] <fdoving> katlyn: so, to do this: open konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole). become root. 'sudo -i'
[06:57] <twosouls82_> nabil: and since you haven't asked it yet...
[06:57] <twosouls82_> ;)
[06:57] <Rede> anyone have any ideas?
[06:57] <james> fdoving: strangely, now that i have copied those files to /usr/share/avahi, when i go into zeroconf settings, it will no longer let me click on the 'enable zerconf browsing' option...
[06:57] <katlyn> Okies, done
[06:58] <twosouls82_> Rede: new kernel -> reinstall driver (ndiswrapper?)
[06:58] <fdoving> katlyn: then run 'nano /var/lib/dpkg/status'
[06:58] <Rede> i use a Ralink rt2500, i didnt need ndiswrapper before...
[06:58] <fdoving> katlyn: then hit 'ctrl-w' and search for 'Package: wine'
[06:59] <katlyn> whooaaa.. this is weeeird... it's like... editing in the console
[06:59] <Rede> thats the chipset, the card is an msi pc54g2
[06:59] <twosouls82_> Rede: that was just a hunch, you might need a different driver
[06:59] <nabil> yeah twosoul
[06:59] <OOD> echo1: i don't know much about that, but there probably is a way to be able to control it yourself :)
[06:59] <nabil> i am trying hard to install ati in kubuntu edgy
[06:59] <fdoving> katlyn: did you find it?
[06:59] <katlyn> Yeah
[06:59] <katlyn> It shows wine
[06:59] <twosouls82_> nabil: what doesn't work, start with that and maybe someone is able to help you out
[07:00] <fdoving> james: hmm.. strange.. don't have anymore suggestions then.. are they set as executable? the files? 'stat -c %a /usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi'
[07:00] <echo1> OOD: I *know* there is, i had it in dapper but when i upgraded to edgy everything broke and my dapper install was pretty messy so i decided to reinstall from scratch
[07:00] <alex__> how to install this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=46481
[07:00] <katlyn> I tried to use the pastebin to show what it said.. can you see it?
[07:00] <fdoving> katlyn: ok, use the arrow keys to navigate down to the 'Version:' line.
[07:00] <alex__> can anybody help me
[07:00] <baro> trt
[07:00] <fdoving> katlyn: what is the url to the pastebin?
[07:00] <katlyn> !paste
[07:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:00] <twosouls82_> Rede: could it be this what you are looking for? http://sourceforge.net/projects/rt2400
[07:00] <katlyn> that one
[07:00] <nabil> see am unable to see a good animation work on my ati x1300 adaptor laptop
[07:01] <twosouls82_> remember,I don't know for sure
[07:01] <baro> sono nuovo salve
[07:01] <fdoving> katlyn: was thinking of the url in your browser, with the numbers and all.
[07:01] <james> fdoving: i got 755james@linux-laptop:~$
[07:01] <james> is that what i want?
[07:01] <fdoving> james: ok, executable then.
[07:01] <katlyn> oh.. uh.. I dunno.. can I just PM you?
[07:01] <Rede> twosouls82_:  i think ive got a driver installed, because it is able to scan and find the networks
[07:02] <Erich-K> Where can I view what kernel version I have?
[07:02] <katlyn> Because I dunno how to use IRC.. and I need to get this done quickly
[07:02] <twosouls82_> Rede: when you start it from the commandline, do you see any stdout (debugging messages?)
[07:02] <Kiongku> Erich-K: uname -r in konsole
[07:02] <fdoving> katlyn: I don't need to know what it says. I know what it says. You'll have to edit the Version: line
[07:02] <Rede> yeah one sec
[07:02] <OOD> echo1L yeah, the upgrade is horrible, i don't know how to get it working since i haven't looked into controlling the cpu clock speed
[07:03] <Rede> gotta run to upstairs computer
[07:03] <katlyn> uuh.. okay.. how do I do that?
[07:03] <twosouls82_> :)
[07:03] <katlyn> oh
[07:03] <katlyn> wait
[07:03] <katlyn> I see.. I think
[07:03] <nabil> two soul: see am unable to see a good animation work on my ati x1300 adaptor laptop
[07:03] <james> fdoving: it is not a big deal.... i hav just never been able to get this laptop set up to print to the printer connected to my desktop....
[07:03] <katlyn> neat
[07:03] <fdoving> katlyn: go to the end of the Version: line. and use the keyboard as in every other editor. backspace do delete.
[07:03] <Erich-K> Kiongku: Thanks
[07:03] <fdoving> katlyn: it should read 'Version: 0.9.22-0ubuntu3' (without the quotes)
[07:03] <twosouls82_> nabil: I don't understand you at to be honest
[07:04] <Kiongku> Erich-K: yw
[07:04] <katlyn> Okay
[07:04] <twosouls82_> -ar
[07:04] <twosouls82_> :s
[07:04] <nabil> honest for what ??
[07:04] <katlyn> Oh, boy.. this is pretty crazy.. but it's done
[07:04] <fdoving> katlyn: make sure there is a space after the colon, before the version.
[07:04] <Rede> it says: Error for request "Set Mode" ... the device or resource is busy"
[07:04] <twosouls82_> nabil: isn't there a room around in your language?
[07:04] <katlyn> Yeah, there is
[07:05] <nabil> well i dont understand broken english
[07:05] <alex__> can anybody help me http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=46481 how to install a bootsplash screen
[07:05] <fdoving> katlyn: ok, now, when this is done. hit 'ctrl-x' and 'y' to save changes.
[07:05] <Zerb_Riss> so why do I have a bunch of python packages in apt that are kept back?
[07:05] <twosouls82_> that's why you type it yourself nabil? :)
[07:05] <katlyn> After I did that.. I hit enter.. and it took me out of the thing
[07:05] <nabil> am new to this world .....
[07:06] <fdoving> katlyn: then in the konsole, run 'cp /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status-old'
[07:06] <katlyn> Alright.. done...
[07:07] <fdoving> katlyn: now you've fooled the system to think you've got the newer version of wine. if you really want the new version at some point, you'll need to re-install with the command 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall wine'
[07:07] <katlyn> Alrighty
[07:07] <katlyn> Thanks!
[07:07] <fdoving> katlyn: i suggest trying to install something with adept, just to check the consistency of the status file.
[07:07] <katlyn> Okay... and uuh... adept-updater is still there.. will it disappear soon?
[07:08] <katlyn> Can I use synaptic? I like it bvetter and have been using it.. to install something, I mean
[07:09] <Dr_willis> katlyn,  i alwasy install synaptic and use it.
[07:10] <fdoving> katlyn: i guess you can close it somehow? or logout and re-login or something. Don't know how often it updates.
[07:10] <fdoving> katlyn: and sure, you can use synaptic.
[07:10] <MidMark> Ahmuck: bug #68880 if you want to add comments
[07:12] <katlyn> Alrighty
[07:12] <katlyn> I'll logout and log back in again
[07:13] <Goong> Hi again
[07:13] <james> fdoving: when i try to run sudo /usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi 1, i get Error: cannot modify custom configuration. any ideas about that one?
[07:13] <twosouls82_> '"dash" is a POSIX compliant shell that is much smaller than "bash". We take advantage of that by making it the shell on the installation root floppy, where space is at a premium.', to quote Debian.. so they only use it on their floppies :D
[07:14] <Dr_willis> heh more dash issues?
[07:14] <twosouls82_> :D
[07:14] <twosouls82_> Dr_willis: just to tease you ;)
[07:14] <fdoving> james: hmm.. no
[07:14] <Dr_willis> twosouls82,  i still and finding a core problem with it.. dash and bash are both supposed to be 100% posix compliant.
[07:14] <james> ok, ill keep looking around.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> twosouls82,  and from what i read you gain a whole 4 seconds  boot time reduction by using dash.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> on their test system.
[07:15] <twosouls82_> Dr_willis: well they both are, Bash only has it's own functions... which might break scripts.. which where written using those functions only
[07:15] <twosouls82_> read; extra functions
[07:16] <Dr_willis> twosouls82,  no... this is the CORE  of the issue.. when bash is called from a link to  #!/bin/sh - it automaticially enables posix mode.. so those extra functions should be disabled...
[07:16] <Dr_willis> Unless of course its not really disabling them all....
[07:16] <Dr_willis> or so i am reading..
[07:16] <Zerb_Riss> !nvidia
[07:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:16] <twosouls82_> Dr_willis: which is what I assumed
[07:17] <jerp> does anyone know of a firewall that is functional with Linux?  I tried the LutelWall site and I get an error of the file when I go to open the tar ball with the archive manager
[07:17] <Kiongku> !ipkungfu
[07:17] <ubotu> ipkungfu: iptables-based Linux firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.2-7 (edgy), package size 33 kB, installed size 212 kB
[07:17] <Dr_willis> twosouls82, i just cant find any proof of that assumption however. :P
[07:18] <fdoving> Dr_willis: http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/bashref/bashref_69.html
[07:19] <twosouls82_> synaptic ignores my colorscheme, doesn't listen to the settings in kcontrol.. this must be caused by sudo. Does someone have a workaround for this?
[07:19] <twosouls82_> running kcontrol as sudo didn't solve it
[07:19] <Dr_willis> been testing out dash and   bash -o posix   :)
[07:21] <fallen|laptop> hi
[07:22] <Dr_willis> fdoving,  in my test the 2 do act diffrently. :P   aparently the 'let' command is on in bash -o posix, the url you posted dont seem to mention that.
[07:23] <Dr_willis> but i got a headache from researching all this. :()
[07:23] <Dr_willis> so in short  .      bash -o posix is NOT 100% posix compliant aparently.
[07:23] <h3sp4wn> It is (but its still a superset)
[07:24] <fdoving> Dr_willis: features are not disabled, in that way. the commands will still work, and you're able to do stuff you shouldn't do, even if you use bash as /bin/sh. The problem isn't the change, the problem is the programmers who make scripts that assume bash-specific functions while using /bin/sh as shebang.
[07:24] <fallen|laptop> anyone using KNetworkManager for wireless connections? on my system it works, but unfortunately only for ~5 minutes and then it disconnects and connects again...
[07:24] <Dr_willis> fdoving,  aha.. that makes more sence then.. sort of like the 'use strict' features of some other languages.
[07:25] <Dr_willis> if the bash posix stuff was more strict then they would see the 'problems'
[07:25] <fdoving> Dr_willis: correct :)
[07:26] <Dr_willis> fdoving,  and we are all having this fun.. due to gaining 4 sec on boot time. :)
[07:26] <ketsugi> Is there any way to get Skim input in Firefox?
[07:26] <mari> i can only get to fail safe terminal, how do i list files in a directory?
[07:26] <jerp> newbie question: When I go sudo on my system, I'm not able to add files or programs onto the 'file system', Is that normal?  Should I just add them to my "Home" folder and forget about it?
[07:27] <fdoving> Dr_willis: not only boot-time, all scripts using /bin/sh runs faster.
[07:27] <fdoving> Dr_willis: dash uses less memory, etc.
[07:27] <Zerb_Riss> !wmv
[07:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:27] <Dr_willis> fdoving,   or so we are told. :)
[07:28] <Dr_willis> well ive extended my knowldege of bash-fu today.... at least
[07:28] <mari> anyone help...
[07:28] <mari>  i can only get to fail safe terminal, how do i list files in a directory?
[07:28] <Dr_willis> ls
[07:28] <Dr_willis> lists files.
[07:28] <jerp> ls
[07:28] <Dr_willis> bash 101 :)
[07:28] <mari> thank you very much
[07:28] <h3sp4wn> but is everything of any use hidden
[07:29] <Dr_willis> !find rexx
[07:29] <ubotu> Found: regina-rexx
[07:29] <Lynoure> mari: ls -la  is often more handy, shows dotfiles and permissions, too
[07:29] <fdoving> ls -lah is even nicer, shows sizes in human readable form :)
[07:30] <Dr_willis> Thats it.. im rewriting all the init scripts in rexx.
[07:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:30] <h3sp4wn> find is nicer than ls most of the time
[07:32] <Dr_willis> i need to increase my 'find' skills also.
[07:32] <Dr_willis> i tend to use locate a lot however
[07:32] <h3sp4wn> I use slocate (the updating of the db seems to be faster)
[07:32] <ronny> Hello, pls help me, I can't open my kubuntu, the login page appears and appears
[07:32] <ronny> every time
[07:32] <h3sp4wn> ronny: running X apps with sudo ?
[07:33] <ronny> you mean sudo x apps
[07:33] <ronny> like that
[07:33] <h3sp4wn> running applications which are graphical with sudo
[07:33] <ronny> h3sp4wn you mean "sudo x apps"
[07:34] <h3sp4wn> no I mean what I said
[07:35] <ronny> h3sp4wn pls explain to me, I got that you want me to run "sudo X apps" in the konsole
[07:36] <h3sp4wn> No - I asked if previously you had being running graphical with sudo
[07:36] <ronny> h3sp4wn everything was pretty normal
[07:36] <h3sp4wn> i.e sudo foo (where foo is any graphical application)
[07:36] <cgeo> when i run beryl in edgy i have this message beryl: water: GL_ARB_fragment_program is missing
[07:36] <cgeo> is somthing wrong with my graphics card??intel i830
[07:36] <ronny> h3sp4wn mm, I cannot run any graphical thing even with sudo
[07:37] <rahmetli> how can i understand what version of kubuntu i am using
[07:37] <h3sp4wn> ronny: I am not talking about now I am talking about prior to it breaking
[07:37] <Hawkwind> rahmetli: lsb_release -a
[07:38] <Danger> Can some one help me getting the live cd of 6.1 booted on my system (ATI)
[07:38] <ronny> h3sp4wn couple minutes ago everything was normal, but now I can't enter, I am stock in the login page, I can go konsole, but that's it
[07:38] <h3sp4wn> ronny: so what did you do in those minutes (I feel as if we are not getting anywhere here)
[07:38] <Dr_willis> rahmetli,   lsb_release -a
[07:38] <rahmetli> Hawkwind: thanks :)
[07:38] <Dr_willis> ;)
[07:38] <geno_> clear
[07:38] <rahmetli> Dr_willis:  thanks :)
[07:39] <geno_> sudo apt-get install clear the chat room
[07:39] <geno_> hahaha
[07:39] <Dr_willis> cls
[07:39] <Dr_willis> reset
[07:39] <ronny> h3sp4wn mm, nothing especial really, just restart after intelling firefox
[07:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:39] <geno_> ya thatz MICROSHIT
[07:39] <twosouls82_> clear
[07:40] <twosouls82_> hmmz, didn't work
[07:40] <twosouls82_> :)
[07:40] <Danger> Can some one help me getting the live cd of 6.1 booted on my system (ATI Radion 7800)
[07:40] <texjoachim> hi, am I the only one who can't run vmware anymore after upgrading to edgy?
[07:41] <Dr_willis> I had issues with edgy befor and vmware.. but its working now.
[07:41] <twosouls82_> cgeo: this page covers it all; http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA
[07:41] <h3sp4wn> texjoachim: You probably need to rebuild the kernel module
[07:41] <Dr_willis> i did a clean install
[07:42] <texjoachim> h3sp4wn: I did
[07:42] <twosouls82_> cgeo: you need to add 'Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"' to your xorg.conf
[07:42] <Dr_willis> i also used the vmware server
[07:42] <texjoachim> I can't start the server konsole anymore
[07:42] <kubola> how can I change channels to bcm43xx under Konversation
[07:42] <texjoachim> I just get this
[07:42] <Danger> Can some one help me getting the live cd of 6.1 booted on my system (ATI Radion 7800) am I asking this wrong?
[07:42] <h3sp4wn> texjoachim: did you use the no stack protector cflag ?
[07:43] <texjoachim> I don't think so, I simply ran vmware-config.pl
[07:43] <twosouls82_> !flood | Danger
[07:43] <ubotu> Danger: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:43] <Dr_willis> Danger,  and whats the problem? you got the cd burnt it just wont boot?
[07:43] <twosouls82_> hehehe, not what I needed now
[07:43] <twosouls82_> but don't flood the channel
[07:44] <Danger> it will boot it goes to the meter and finishes it then I think it starts x and hangs
[07:44] <Dr_willis> Danger,  you planning on installing to your machine? or just testing out the live cd?
[07:44] <Danger> got it Two
[07:44] <Danger> both
[07:44] <texjoachim> here is what vmware tells me: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28907/
[07:45] <ronny> Hello, pls help me, I can't open my kubuntu, the login page appears and appears
[07:45] <cgeo> twosouls82: thnx for tha page.i've seen it before but i dont have NVIDIA.unless the while process is the same no matter the graphics card
[07:45] <Danger> I dont wan to intall it if i can boot th elive cd
[07:45] <Danger> I ave Suse running now
[07:45] <cgeo> twosouls82: yes and i've already added that line along with other lines
[07:46] <Dr_willis> Mine says that also. its just a warning -- not critical
[07:46] <Danger> and I have had xandros in past
[07:46] <Dr_willis> texjoachim,  thats just a warning about the libs. mine says that and still works
[07:46] <cgeo> beryl is working but the rain plugin seems to be disabled no matter what
[07:46] <twosouls82_> cgeo: that's for nvidia, at least the driver part.. don't know, the rest might work for other (3D enabled) cards ass well
[07:46] <twosouls82_> s/ass/as/
[07:46] <twosouls82_> :\
[07:47] <Dr_willis> Danger,  the latest ubuntu/kubuntu just came out 2 days ago.. you may want to toy with those live cds - for Installing - i find the alternative (text) installs work best for me.
[07:47] <Danger> om I have the latest live
[07:47] <rahmetli> is apt-get update same with adept updating utility?
[07:47] <texjoachim> Dr_willis: but nothing ever happens after this output, no konsole, no nothing :-(
[07:47] <rahmetli> i mean r they doing the same job?
[07:48] <twosouls82_> Danger: using the text mode like Dr_willis suggests is a good idea, I am not to fond of the live cd installer myself either
[07:48] <Danger> ok maybe i will get the altunative
[07:48] <Dr_willis> texjoachim,  no clue there... I download/use the vmware server packages from the vmware homepage.
[07:48] <Kiongku> alternative cd?
[07:48] <twosouls82_> it is on the same cd
[07:48] <Danger> how do you get to it?
[07:49] <Dr_willis> its a seperate cd. from the live cd.
[07:49] <Dr_willis> Hmm  http://www.oracle.com/technologies/linux/index.html    Orcale Linux has a better logo then we do!
[07:49] <Dr_willis> Im going to install it!
[07:49] <Danger> I know you can hit esc to get to the boot prompt
[07:49] <twosouls82_> is it, wasn't it on the same cd with dapper?
[07:49] <Danger> <has dgy
[07:50] <texjoachim> Dr_willis: that's where I got it from originally
[07:50] <twosouls82_> too, but he thought the installer cd would be the same as before
[07:50] <texjoachim> and it seems there is no update available :-(
[07:50] <flexan> hello
[07:51] <flexan> I'm trying to boot 6.10 but it keeps hanging at "ohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: OHCI Host Controller"
[07:52] <flexan> ohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: new USB registered, assigned bus number 1
[07:52] <flexan> any suggestions?
[07:52] <twosouls82_> Dr_willis: I searched the web for a unique text mode installer, couldn't find one.. where is it?
[07:52] <twosouls82_> not that I need it
[07:52] <Danger> looking for the alt cd's as well
[07:52] <twosouls82_> I was looking for you too
[07:52] <twosouls82_> :)
[07:53] <Danger> thanks
[07:53] <twosouls82_> hehe, got it
[07:53] <twosouls82_> Danger: look closely on http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[07:54] <twosouls82_> don't miss it like I did the first time
[07:54] <Eddy> hi how can i find a driver to Logitech MX5000 to kubuntu edgy ?
[07:54] <twosouls82_> Danger: http://ubuntu.task.gda.pl/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/ the link to the iso is here
[07:55] <Danger> yes i see do i need to definatly use the amd64 if i have one
[07:55] <Danger> can i use the reg
[07:55] <twosouls82_> Danger: I have the 32bit installed on my 64bit
[07:55] <Danger> ok i iwll try
[07:55] <twosouls82_> hence there was no speed gain
[07:56] <rahmetli> i have done the required actions in 6.10-release.php,there was a problem
[07:56] <Danger> ok will down load it now
[07:56] <rahmetli> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:56] <rahmetli>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: bluez-pcmcia-support but it is not going to be installed
[07:56] <rahmetli>                    Depends: language-selector-qt but it is not going to be installed
[07:56] <rahmetli> E: Broken packages
[07:56] <sredna> Hm, my desktop tends to loose all icons in kubuntu edgy
[07:56] <flexan> is it better to install on to ext2 or ext3? i haven't used linux in sometime, but I remember ext2 being the primary fs choice
[07:56] <flexan> don't know much about ext3
[07:56] <Loschka> hi, i'm using kubuntu and i have some problems with my java runtime environment. (yes, it is installed, and yes i know google...) But when i want to play a java applet my cpu usage becomes higher and higher. Can somebody help me?
[07:57] <texjoachim> ext3=ext2 plus journal
[07:57] <Danger> ext3 has journal perfered
[07:57] <twosouls82_> flexan: ext3 and ext2 for boot
[07:57] <alitis4> i got kubuntu, how i can install xfce on my kubuntu ?
[07:57] <flexan> thanks, so then it is nearly the same, except ext3 adds journaling support to ext2
[07:57] <twosouls82_> yep
[07:57] <flexan> good to know.
[07:58] <flexan> now i need to rerun gparted.... lol
[08:00] <buz> does amarok on edgy support musicbrainz tagging for mp3? it doesnt seem to actually anything but doesnt give errors either
[08:00] <twosouls82_> hahaha there is a bug in Konversation.. I am online twice, while I am logged on only once :P
[08:01] <flexan> hmm, trying to boot kubuntu 6.10 live, it goes through the normal routine and gets to a light blue background with a mouse curosr, and nothing else happens. occurs with both normal and graphics safe mode. card is pci_e evga 7800 GT, any suggestions?
[08:01] <twosouls82_> buz: you need to rebuild the package with mp3 support
[08:01] <buz> in dapper i used to get errors about that
[08:01] <buz> somehow, just silently doing nothing is weird
[08:01] <buz> it actually says its generating fingerprints for a while
[08:01] <buz> but then nothing happens
[08:01] <twosouls82_> buz, I'll paste the solution in your pm :)
[08:02] <buz> thx
[08:02] <rahmetli> i have done the required actions in 6.10-release.php,there was a problem
[08:02] <rahmetli> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:02] <rahmetli>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: bluez-pcmcia-support but it is not going to be installed
[08:02] <rahmetli>                    Depends: language-selector-qt but it is not going to be installed
[08:02] <rahmetli> E: Broken packages
[08:02] <Armagguedes> hello
[08:03] <jerp> Ya need a phd I guess to load software, sheesh, what a help channel.
[08:03] <flexan> Where can one find a list of the cheatcodes for Kubuntu 6.10 Desktop CD?
[08:03] <sredna> I have this error in kde 3.5.5, using kubuntu edgy: Select some icons on the desktop, then rightclick => the icons gets deselected, except the one under the cursor (if any). Can anyone confirm that?
[08:04] <twosouls82_> buz: pm doesn't work, hence the konvi bug so... the solution is on this page; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29370.html
[08:04] <buz> thx
[08:04] <OOD> sredna: same thing here, i think it's been coded like that intentionally
[08:04] <rahmetli> sredna: no
[08:04] <buz> twosouls82: pm only works with registered nicks i believe
[08:04] <alitis4> something similar like netconfig on kubuntu?
[08:04] <sredna> OOD: That would be obstruction
[08:04] <OOD> obstruction of what?
[08:05] <mulder> Yeahhh I have everything running with Kubuntu. I guess I am in love again with computing!
[08:05] <sredna> rahmetli: And you are running edgy with default kde packages?
[08:05] <Armagguedes> can someone enlighten me? what's the difference between repository vs. official site apps? (see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1673140 ) Why should i _not_ use the most up-to-date files?
[08:05] <sredna> OOD: My work, + common sense ;)
[08:05] <rahmetli> sredna: yes
[08:05] <sredna> OOD: In any file view, you would need to be able to select some items, rightclick and select some action.
[08:06] <rahmetli> sredna:but i dont know if my update is succesful.
[08:06] <sredna> rahmetli: Odd that it works for some and not for othes
[08:06] <OOD> yeah, but this is the desktop, the right click activates the desktop menu
[08:07] <sredna> OOD: ... which, for files, contains actions for files
[08:07] <mulder> I only need to have my audigy 2 zs notebook card working and I will be sorted. Does somebody knows how to have that card working please?
[08:07] <OOD> if i select several files and click on one of them i get those actions
[08:07] <sredna> Hm, and now it even appears to work
[08:07] <sredna> Even more strange :\
[08:07] <Jonty_> I'm following the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI yet Xorg still insists on loading the Mesa drivers. My xorg.conf is here: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2363
[08:08] <DarkWizzard> hey guys
[08:08] <DarkWizzard> I got a problem
[08:08] <DarkWizzard> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28909/
[08:09] <mulder> so no audigy 2 zs users who can help me? :-(
[08:09] <DarkWizzard> after an upgrade to edgy my themes got messed up.They are installed but you cant see them in system settings.I want to aply plastik or klearlook or something that doesn't look like windows 98
[08:10] <OOD> mulder: try updating to the latest alsa driver
[08:10] <DarkWizzard> look
[08:10] <DarkWizzard> http://darkwizzard.no-ip.org/qt.png
[08:10] <rahmetli> in adept updater, i am requesting upgrade but requested seems to be remove,i dont understand.
[08:11] <Jonty> I'm following the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI yet Xorg still insists on loading the Mesa drivers. My xorg.conf is here: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2363
[08:11] <mulder> from the adept manager OOD?
[08:12] <DarkWizzard> Jonty: have you turned Composite off in xorg.conf ?
[08:12] <DarkWizzard> yes
[08:12] <DarkWizzard> you wanted to
[08:12] <DarkWizzard> bt
[08:12] <DarkWizzard> but
[08:12] <Jonty> Yeah, I commented out
[08:12] <ubuntu_> hola
[08:12] <Jonty> I'll uncomment it
[08:12] <DarkWizzard> its not false its :        Option "Composite" "disable"
[08:12] <ubuntu_> how am i supposed to upgrade using a CD?
[08:12] <OOD> mulder: no, you'd have to download the source and compile it
[08:13] <Jonty> DarkWizzard: oh
[08:13] <DarkWizzard> at the end
[08:13] <ubuntu_> i booted with the CD
[08:13] <ubuntu_> and apt-cdrom doesnt work
[08:13] <mulder> I am quite new to Linux/Kubuntu, so compiling I cannot do as yet
[08:14] <Jonty> DarkWizzard: Ok, see you soon (hopefuly...)
[08:14] <Ahmuck>  ubuntu_ http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[08:14] <mulder> any link I can follow or simple advices OOD?
[08:14] <Ahmuck> from dapper to edgy
[08:14] <ubuntu_> Ahmuck: im there
[08:14] <ubuntu_> but wont work
[08:14] <Ahmuck> upgrading from 6.06 lts
[08:14] <ubuntu_> yes
[08:14] <Ahmuck> about mid-page
[08:14] <RawSewage> I messed up my theme.  How do I restore to the default Edgy Kubuntu theme
[08:14] <Zerb_Riss> ubuntu_, you need to boot to your hard drive, not the Live CD
[08:14] <ubuntu_> Zerb_Riss: ok
[08:14] <Ahmuck> If you have a Kubuntu 6.10 CD, put it in the drive, and run apt-cdrom from the command line. Then follow the instructions above.
[08:15] <ubuntu_> and then just run apt-cdrom?
[08:15] <Zerb_Riss> yah
[08:15] <ubuntu_> ok ok
[08:15] <Zerb_Riss> from the hard drive install
[08:15] <ubuntu_> then thats why
[08:15] <ubuntu_> ill try
[08:15] <Zerb_Riss> good luck
[08:15] <Ahmuck> boot to your normal dapper and then open a konsole and then do it
[08:15] <Zerb_Riss> hehe
[08:15] <Zerb_Riss> Ahmuck, people make me wonder sometimes lol
[08:16] <alitis4> something similar like netconfig on kubuntu?
[08:16] <Jonty> DarkWizzard: Ok, still fglrx tell me OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[08:16] <Ahmuck> not me.  i have trashed on installation already this week
[08:16] <Ahmuck> s/on/one
[08:16] <DarkWizzard> strange
[08:16] <DarkWizzard> is fglrx loaded
[08:16] <Zerb_Riss> Ahmuck, I've had problems with three installations
[08:16] <RawSewage> I cant find the default Edgy Theme
[08:16] <Zerb_Riss> almost all of them didn't install xserver-xorg
[08:16] <RawSewage> Whre is it
[08:16] <RawSewage> How do I restore it
[08:16] <Ahmuck> i was able to do the inet upgrade, but i needed to do some clean up as well
[08:16] <Jonty> DarkWizzard: How do I know
[08:17] <DarkWizzard> whats the output for: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep Direct ?
[08:17] <kayle> If I update from 6.06 to 6.10, would all my settings be the same?
[08:17] <DarkWizzard> kayle: what settings ?
[08:17] <OOD> mulder: http://alsa.opensrc.org/Quick+Install this is very difficult however to get working, and i dont know if this would fix your problem either
[08:17] <kayle> like video settings?
[08:17] <Kiongku> kayle: better u do a clean install.. u might get into lots of problems
[08:18] <DarkWizzard> I seen that
[08:18] <DarkWizzard> but you could try upgrading
[08:18] <DarkWizzard> but get ready for problems
[08:18] <Jonty> DarkWizzard: (II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering disabled
[08:18] <Kiongku> yap..
[08:18] <DarkWizzard> Jonty: could you pastebin the whole file ?
[08:18] <Jonty> sure
[08:18] <RawSewage> How do I restore the default Edgy theme
[08:18] <Kiongku> betetr back up anythign important and jsut make it over for less hassle
[08:18] <OOD> mulder: first try this, run alsamixer in konsole and try unmuting all channels
[08:19] <DarkWizzard> does anyone have any Ideea whats wrong with my styles ?
[08:19] <DarkWizzard> http://darkwizzard.no-ip.org/qt.png
[08:19] <DarkWizzard> it looks like win98
[08:19] <kayle> I tried clean install, but since I running it under VPC, the video graphics has to be 16 bits or under. I am having a hard time making to video settings 16 bits.
[08:19] <DarkWizzard> annoying
[08:19] <mulder> I can only try OOD, thanks for the link
[08:19] <DarkWizzard> kayle: what kind of video card ?
[08:20] <Jonty> DarkWizzard: Can I DCC it to you?
[08:20] <DarkWizzard> sure
[08:20] <DarkWizzard> if it works
[08:20] <DarkWizzard> :)
[08:20] <mulder> what do I have to type in the konsole OOD?
[08:20] <OOD> mulder: alsamixer
[08:21] <kayle> I have a X350SE by ATI, but Virtual PC can't handle above 16 bits
[08:21] <DarkWizzard> ATI
[08:21] <kayle> yes
[08:21] <DarkWizzard> well
[08:21] <OOD> this'll start up the alsa mixer, try unmuting all channels, you just might have an important channel muted
[08:21] <DarkWizzard> hard time with that one.
[08:21] <Jonty> DarkWizzard: There
[08:21] <DarkWizzard> k
[08:22] <kayle> Its not about the video card. its the VPC software
[08:22] <francesco_> hallo have question installing beryl on old Nvidia TNT2 32 MB Graphics chip?
[08:22] <mulder> OOD it only shows my hda intel there and not the audigy
[08:23] <Spudchat> how can i disable the proprietary nvidia driver so that i can use Xinerama on my two different sized monitors?
[08:23] <Danger> humm motorcycle or instal kubuntu   hum ard choice
[08:23] <DarkWizzard> Jonty: do you have xorg-driver-fglrx installed ?
[08:23] <Danger> ok motorcycle
[08:24] <Spudchat> do i just need to change nvidia back to nv in xorg.conf?
[08:24] <kayle> I am tring to use gksu to update kubuntu, but Konsole says "command not found"
[08:24] <DarkWizzard> [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx"
[08:24] <Jonty> DarkWizzard: I do
[08:24] <DarkWizzard> then whats the output for sudo modprobe fglrx
[08:24] <DarkWizzard> ?
[08:25] <Jonty> Sorry, did I mention I'm on Edgy?
[08:25] <Jonty> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory
[08:25] <DarkWizzard> I know
[08:25] <DarkWizzard> well
[08:25] <OOD> mulder: oh, so you want to use the audigy 2 instead of the intel?
[08:25] <Jonty> hmm
[08:25] <DarkWizzard> I know
[08:25] <francesco_> hallo have question installing beryl on old Nvidia TNT2 32 MB Graphics chip?
[08:25] <DarkWizzard> what kernel do you have ?
[08:25] <Jonty> 2.6.17-10-386
[08:25] <mulder> yes ODD
[08:25] <Jonty> says uname -a
[08:26] <kayle> I am tring to use gksu to update kubuntu, but Konsole says "command not found"
[08:26] <DarkWizzard> Jonty: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386
[08:26] <mulder> because I also have 5.1 speakers too
[08:26] <Jonty> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 is already the newest version.
[08:26] <DarkWizzard> strange
[08:26] <DarkWizzard> but you dont have the fglrx kernel module
[08:27] <DarkWizzard> try reinstalling that packet
[08:27] <OOD> mulder: this is possible to do, but i'm not sure how since i've never had this problem
[08:27] <orkid__> kayle, use kdesu
[08:27] <DarkWizzard> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386
[08:27] <mulder> :-(
[08:27] <orkid__> kayle, or in konsole, simply use sudo
[08:27] <OOD> ill look around on how to get it working
[08:28] <mulder> that will be kind of you, thank you
[08:28] <OOD> first try disabling the intel audio in the bios if you can
[08:28] <Jonty> DarkWizzard: ok
[08:28] <OOD> that way alsa would probably default to the audigy 2
[08:29] <mulder> in the system settings, under hardware, there is no audigy showing, but under midi device there is!
[08:29] <Jonty> DarkWizzard: Ah ha! No errors now.
[08:29] <Jonty> DarkWizzard: I'll try again
[08:30] <jende_> Howdy..;-)
[08:30] <NDPTAL85> Ever since updating to 6.10 my flash in Firefox won't work. Any ideas?
[08:30] <jende_> cpk2: Hi cpk...!
[08:30] <jende_> LjL: Hi LjL...
[08:30] <LjL> hello jende_
[08:31] <jende_> LjL: How are ya?
[08:31] <Jonty> DarkWizzard: Thankyou very much indeed. It works.
[08:31] <LjL> jende_: bad :P flu
[08:31] <DarkWizzard> with pleasure
[08:31] <DarkWizzard> glad we got it working
[08:31] <DarkWizzard> man I had problems with this release
[08:31] <jende_> LjL: I'm sorry for you, hope you'll recover soonish
[08:31] <DarkWizzard> and still do
[08:31] <DarkWizzard> I just wish I could get dapper back in the way it was
[08:32] <Dr_willis> Im glad i always do a clean reinstall
[08:32] <Jonty> What's people's experiences with xgl and edgy?
[08:32] <LjL> jende_: or get a good 39C fever so at least i just sleep and notice nothing =)
[08:32] <starpause> i'm following the 6.10 upgrade instructions @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades and get errors on the first step (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop), anyone have time to see if they're critical and i should resolve them?
[08:32] <francesco_> questions installing beryl on old Nvidia TNT2 32 MB Graphics chip?
[08:33] <Jonty> starpause: Just dump them onto a pastebin for people to look at
[08:33] <jende_> Dr_willis: well, it's quite weirs that so amyn people in here are having dramas upgrading from DD to edgy. Even today we, I joined a edgy Release Party, we made a lot of upgrades without any dramas at all
[08:33] <Kiongku> Dr_willis: do u keep everything under one partition or u separate ur files and the linux OS in 2 different one?
[08:33] <starpause> Jonty: got you, http://rafb.net/paste/results/WuvFbW20.html
[08:33] <jende_> Dr_willis: weirs=weird
[08:34] <jende_> Kiongku: I have basically 4 Partitions
[08:34] <Kiongku> jende_: ?
[08:34] <shinobi> anyone able to configure multiple panels in kde 3.5.5 in edgy
[08:34] <Jonty> starpause: Run apt-get install (no arguments) and pastebin what you get
[08:34] <jende_> Kiongku: was just a comment on the question you've asked DocWillis
[08:35] <Kiongku> jende_: ? --> means how do u use ur partitions
[08:35] <starpause> Jonty: http://rafb.net/paste/results/jajDV975.html
[08:35] <jende_> Kiongku: one is /; one is /tmp; one is /home; and the last is /var
[08:35] <Kiongku> !edgy
[08:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[08:35] <Kiongku> jende_: lol thats the normal set up right?
[08:36] <Jonty> starpause: Nothing's wrong with kubuntu desktop
[08:36] <shinobi> except no control of child panels?
[08:36] <jende_> Kiongku: nope...if you let the partitions been created by the installer you'll have just one
[08:36] <Jonty> Do you need python2.4-minimal?
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> btw: If no one has any ideea about how to fix the themes then has anyone tryed to compile the lirc kernel modules under the new kernel ?
[08:36] <Jonty> starpause: Otherwise, apt-get remove it
[08:36] <legeh> can anyone help a newbie with upgrade troubles from kubuntu dapper to edgy? please?
[08:37] <jende_> Kiongku: in/on which you'll find surely the mentioned directories but not as partitions
[08:37] <shinobi> anyone managed to configure any child panels in 3.5.5
[08:37] <starpause> Jonty: i dont' recall anything i need it for, no ... will remove now
[08:38] <starpause> Jonty: it's going at it ... just try "apt-get install" again after that?
[08:39] <Jonty> starpause: Yeah.
[08:39] <jende_> Kiongku: ?
[08:39] <Jonty> starpause: Basically what's happening is there's something wrong with sudo apt-get update
[08:39] <Jonty> starpause: No, sorry, python2.4 minimal
[08:39] <starpause> Jonty: OMFG, i think i did something wrong, and am removing a ton of packages!
[08:39] <Jonty> Press 'N' or ctrl-C
[08:40] <Jonty> then pastebin what's happening
[08:41] <Rajah3000> How would a person remove something that isn't working in the respository?
[08:41] <starpause> Jonty: http://rafb.net/paste/results/sIJDp124.html
[08:41] <Jonty> starpause: Nasty
[08:42] <starpause> Jonty: yeah I took a second look at what was happening and realized it was going to uninstall a gig of stuff :)
[08:42] <shinobi> anyone having this issue with panels?: http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=15455
[08:42] <Dr_willis> been there.. done that.
[08:42] <Jonty> starpause: sudo apt-get install python-minimal
[08:42] <Kiongku> jende_:  i c..
[08:43] <OOD> mulder: sorry, i cant find anything, the only thing i can recommend is trying to turn off the integrated intel sound in the bios
[08:43] <redguy> hi, I have just set up dual head with my kubuntu. The :0.0 display is a CRT on my desk, the 0.1 is a TV. I want to use the tv to watch movies so I don't want nor need KDE in there. How can I make KDE not start there?
[08:44] <DarkWizzard> oh yeah! I almost forgot one of my other problems:when I start edgy it doesn't boot into X it boots into the first terminal.I have to press ctrl alt f7 to get it running? Wth is causing that ?
[08:44] <starpause> Jonty: http://rafb.net/paste/results/BtPzAb93.html
[08:44] <Dr_willis> redguy,  what video card? you got 2 seperate X sessions going ? one for monitor one for tv?
[08:44] <OOD> mulder: you'll have to wait until someone else comes that knows the answer, also try the #alsa channel
[08:44] <Rajah3000> I need help with repositories, anyone know how to remove something added in there(in the terminal)?
[08:44] <Dr_willis> Rajah3000,  edit the apt.sources file
[08:44] <Rajah3000> ok
[08:45] <jende_> Kiongku: if you're developing I woould suggest to create a Partition /devel as well and another one /data. In the /devel I would have all my tools, such as compilers and stuff and in the /data I would have just my code.
[08:45] <mulder> Arf....ok OOD
[08:45] <mulder> thanks for your time anyway.
[08:45] <Kiongku> jende_: did u do that beforehand or while installing?
[08:45] <starpause> Jonty: looks like i messed something up when i was getting the museek to work
[08:46] <Jonty> starpause: Something's wrong with python2.4-minimal, and unforunately I can't help you with that
[08:46] <jende_> Kiongku: I created my partitions manually while I installed DD and hadn't had any probs upgrading to edgy few weeks ago
[08:46] <Jonty> Show them that last link, though
[08:46] <mulder> OOD how to get to the Alsa channel please?
[08:47] <redguy> Dr_willis: hmm, not sure it these are separate sessions, most propably not. The video card is an old geforce2. I just made two device and sceen sections i xorg.conf and used both screens in serverlayout. No Xinerama, no TwinView, just plain multiple head X config AFAIK
[08:47] <jdiwnab> I'm back with more questions
[08:47] <Dr_willis> redguy,  can you mouse from one monitor to the other? :)
[08:47] <jdiwnab> In the alternate install, is there a progress indicator after it formats things?
[08:47] <Kiongku> jende_: ah u were doing it while beta versions.. anyway what set up do u recommend for an 80 gig hdd :P?
[08:48] <redguy> Dr_willis: yup, no window dragging though
[08:48] <OOD> mulder: /join #alsa
[08:48] <Dr_willis> redguy,  thats... odd... wonder how ya got that set up...
[08:48] <Dr_willis> redguy,  toss your xorg.conf on pastebin perhaps.. :)
[08:48] <redguy> Dr_willis: sec
[08:50] <jende_> Kiongku: the /swap sould be twice as big as your RAM is; first of all! My / root is here like 8Gig, /tmp is 16 Gig, /home is 25 Gig /var is 25 Gig
[08:51] <redguy> Dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28918/
[08:51] <jende_> Kiongku: but basically depends a bit on your preferences
[08:52] <mulder> Thanks OOD
[08:52] <redguy> Dr_willis: had a little fight with modelines, the image on the tv used to be down a bit... Not sure if I actually fixed it
[08:52] <jdiwnab> Anybody, I need some help installing edgy
[08:52] <jdiwnab> Clean install
[08:52] <Rajah3000> Does anyone know where to locate the apt.sources file, or the exact name for it so I can search it?
[08:52] <Dr_willis> redguy,  so. you login and you get 2 seperate sessions of kde? one on monitor and one on tv?
[08:53] <DarkWizzard> Rajah3000: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:53] <Rajah3000> sweet!
[08:53] <Kiongku> jende_: k
[08:53] <Dr_willis> apt 101 :)
[08:53] <jende_> Kiongku: huh?
[08:53] <Dr_willis> If you didenet know where to find it.. what are you going to edit in that file Rajah3000  :)
[08:53] <C-O-L-T> how to add a new samba user?
[08:54] <Dr_willis> C-O-L-T,  you mean 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' ?
[08:54] <C-O-L-T> Dr_willis: yes thanks
[08:54] <E[m] ess> hey, when i switch to beryl as my WM all the window borders diappear so i ant move them. alt-F3 doesnt work so i cant slect move that way and no bryl effects work either. any ideas?
[08:54] <Dr_willis> C-O-L-T,  every linux user has their home shared if they got a passwd. :)
[08:54] <Dr_willis> C-O-L-T,  but its Read only by default.
[08:54] <jende_> jdiwnab: whats your prob?
[08:54] <Rajah3000> I messed it up cause I don't know what I'm doin' and I tried to add a homemade repository
[08:55] <Kiongku> darn k3b is refusing to burn my imade iso
[08:55] <C-O-L-T> Dr_willis: gives me this Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user username. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?
[08:55] <C-O-L-T> Failed to modify password entry for user username
[08:55] <Kiongku> OPC fail to activate..
[08:55] <DarkWizzard> Rajah3000: what do you want to do ?
[08:55] <Rajah3000> and now terminal won't work right, and adept won't open either
[08:55] <jdiwnab> I'm atempting to install kubuntu and the installer just keeps on hanging, even on the alternate cd
[08:55] <Dr_willis> C-O-L-T,  does the linux user allready exist?
[08:55] <jende_> Rajah3000: what have you done?
[08:55] <jende_> jdiwnab: hmmm...any other systems allready installed?
[08:55] <C-O-L-T> Dr_willis: I think nope. The problem is I can not access from windows my linux box I type the password but nothing
[08:56] <jdiwnab> windows, on another drive that I'm not even touching
[08:56] <Dr_willis> C-O-L-T,  you see the linux shares?
[08:56] <C-O-L-T> Dr_willis: yes
[08:56] <Rajah3000> I was trying to add a hyperlink to the adept thing, and It was invalid so now I gotta go in there and delete it:-p
[08:56] <Dr_willis> C-O-L-T,  you see the 'home' share? or a share named after the user?
[08:57] <jende_> jdiwnab: hmmm...so its a new drive, like the slave one, right?
[08:57] <Dr_willis> C-O-L-T,  often i have to remove the /homes name of the share and enter the actual users linux login name for windows to work right.
[08:57] <C-O-L-T> Dr_willis: I see my home folder shared
[08:57] <jende_> Rajah3000: the way to add new repos is to modify your sources.list
[08:57] <Dr_willis> So instead of //server/homes its //server/drwillis
[08:57] <DarkWizzard> Rajah3000: I dont really understand you but try sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list delete and save
[08:57] <Rajah3000> I'm reaching ere, when it comes to manually doing things or installing program..hehe
[08:57] <Rajah3000> ok
[08:57] <jende_> Rajah3000: your sources is in etc/apt/
[08:58] <C-O-L-T> Dr_willis: I have changed the home folder name to ubuntu but nothing
[08:58] <jende_> Rajah3000: and you could modify it using: ALT+F2 -> kdesu kate 7etc7apt/sources.list
[08:58] <C-O-L-T> Dr_willis: asks for password I type but can not access
[08:58] <jende_> Rajah3000: and you could modify it using: ALT+F2 -> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:58] <redguy> Dr_willis: seems so: the KDE on "Monitor" is in Polish and has 8 desktops set up, the KDE on the TV has 4 desktops and is in English. But when I "Lock Screen..." on the TV the sceen on the "Monitor" is locked up as well
[08:58] <Dr_willis> C-O-L-T,  for that linux user you gave them a Samba password allready?
[08:58] <ethspace> f
[08:59] <C-O-L-T> Dr_willis: I think so, so should I do it again ? so how to add a user to samba network smbpasswd -a username?
[08:59] <Dr_willis> redguy,  hmm.. you even have 2 Panels and 2 K buttons.. I wonder how you can mouse across to the other one...
[08:59] <Rajah3000> now is that in text and then I just save it and it will be all good?
[08:59] <Dr_willis> C-O-L-T,  yes.. with a sudo you are using the actual users name.. not 'username' right?
[09:00] <jende_> Rajah3000: it is surely in "text" as kate is a texteditor. Yes you can modify it and save it. After that you have to open a Console and type:'sudo apt-get update'
[09:01] <Rajah3000> ok
[09:01] <Rajah3000> I think I read that somewhere so that makes sense
[09:01] <Dr_willis> Linux = lots of reading. :)
[09:01] <jende_> jdiwnab: are you getting any kind of an error message? BTW at which point does the installer stop?
[09:01] <redguy> Dr_willis: I suppose that this is due to the LeftOf, when I didn't have it I couldn't move the mouse to the other screen
[09:01] <jbruegge> hm hi
[09:01] <Rajah3000> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list.
[09:01] <Rajah3000> Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[09:01] <Rajah3000> ?
[09:02] <jende_> Hi jbruegge
[09:02] <Dr_willis> redguy,  hmm.. i may have to try that.. but now my tv is way over on the other side of the room. :)
[09:02] <Dr_willis> redguy,  ive always used twinview and clone, or xinerama modes
[09:03] <jende_> Rajah3000: it might opened by another application or you haven't opened it with kdesu ( as sudo)
[09:03] <jbruegge> hm... ich muss mich erstmal umbenennen...
[09:03] <Dr_willis> redguy,  could just try  making a .xinitrc and see what booting to the console, or disable KDM, and 'startx' does
[09:03] <jende_> jbrice: warum btw we speak english in here
[09:03] <C-O-L-T> Dr_willis: thanks it works :)
[09:03] <Jonty> What's instaling xgl like on Edgy?
[09:03] <jende_> J8T5X7:  warum btw we speak english in here
[09:03] <Dr_willis> C-O-L-T, its proberly read only also. :)
[09:04] <J8T5X7> ahhh sorry
[09:04] <jende_> Rajah3000: so have you opened the file?
[09:04] <J8T5X7> i tought it joins the german channel in the german installation ^^
[09:05] <jende_> !de
[09:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:05] <J8T5X7> i know jende_
[09:05] <jende_> J8T5X7: ;)
[09:06] <Rajah3000> I don't want to do the whole alt-f2 thing last time I did that I got caught in the full-screen terminal window and coulddn't get out
[09:07] <Rajah3000> so I had to restart:-\
[09:07] <jende_> Rajah3000: well than you should read the manpages re "vi"
[09:07] <jende_> Rajah3000: man vi
[09:07] <Rajah3000> ahh
[09:07] <jende_> !vi
[09:07] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[09:07] <E[m] ess> alt-F2 again...or alt-F7 if you had X running
[09:07] <jdiwnab> Jende_, it stopped in the desktop version after it did some disk stuff after I clicked "Install" Sometimes it would say there was an error and ask me to submit a bug report, which I can't ATM because of NIC issues. Other times it would just freeze. In the alt install, it has now stopped after I clicked fomat and it did the formatting. It has a blue screen and nothing else. It has been like that for about 30 minutes
[09:08] <Dr_willis> !info vimtutor
[09:08] <ubotu> Package vimtutor does not exist in any distro I know
[09:08] <Dr_willis> !info vitutor
[09:08] <ubotu> Package vitutor does not exist in any distro I know
[09:08] <Dr_willis> ack
[09:08] <Rajah3000> I tried alt- f2 and that didn't work, I was trying all kinds of buttons:-P
[09:09] <Dr_willis> dont just try things.. learn what to do. :)
[09:09] <E[m] ess> alt-F7 should do it
[09:09] <jende_> Rajah3000: if you press alt-f2 a window should poop up in which you can enter a command such as: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:10] <Rajah3000> Ok, well I hardly remember all the hotkeys yet, but I'm gonna read the man vi if I get to that:-)
[09:10] <jende_> jdiwnab: hmmm...have you ran a memtest so far? Is your 2nd drive like a new one, like just bought and never ever used before?
[09:11] <sam_> has anyone got cinelerra working on edgy yet?
[09:12] <jende_> jdiwnab: I'll be back shortly have to go now for a lil while, sorry...my son has got to go to bed now...but I'll beb back.okay?
[09:12] <jdiwnab> jende_ yes I ran a memtest lastnight and all cleared. the drive isn't new but as worked well for other things, like Suse, ubuntu 5.10, and others
[09:12] <jdiwnab> OK
[09:12] <joakko> hello! im a new linux user!!:D
[09:13] <joakko> im using kubuntu 6
[09:13] <nickv111> joakko: Good for you.
[09:13] <joakko> its great! the best OS i've prove
[09:14] <joakko> thank!;)
[09:14] <sam_> welcome joakko
[09:14] <mulder> Hello guys, anybody who could help me with my audigy 2 zs card please?
[09:14] <nickv111> joakko: I've been trying to get some of my friends to use GNU/Linux
[09:14] <nickv111> joakko: Specifically, Kubuntu, because it's easy
[09:14] <joakko> anyone can help me with a webcam drivers? or where i can find linux drivers?
[09:15] <nickv111> joakko: I'd recommend reading http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[09:15] <CVirus> hehe
[09:15] <lucian303> hello everyone. i'm wondering if someone can help me. i just upgraded to edgy and i can't get the graphic login screen. i can log in and do startx but it runs gnome. how can i get kde back?
[09:15] <nickv111> joakko: It's not meant to be offensive. But, don't ask people vague questions is all
[09:16] <nickv111> joakko: For example, a better question than that would be, "I'm having X problem with Y drivers for my Z webcam"
[09:16] <joakko> what ar u talking about?
[09:16] <joakko> ohh i understand
[09:16] <nickv111> joakko: <joakko> anyone can help me with a webcam drivers? or where i can find linux drivers?
[09:16] <joakko> okok
[09:16] <nickv111> joakko: In the Linux world, people don't take all too kindly to those sorts of questions, and will probably just brush them off
[09:16] <nickv111> joakko: So, what problems are you having with your webcam?
[09:17] <joakko> first i wanna say im from argentina
[09:17] <E[m] ess> lucian303: did you have both gnome and kde before?
[09:18] <joakko> so, i dont speal english so good
[09:18] <jdiwnab> Can anyone else help me with my install issues?
[09:18] <nickv111> joakko: You might want to try #kubuntu-es, then
[09:18] <nickv111> joakko: And, for the problems you're having with your webcam, #ubuntu-es
[09:18] <Igor_V2> hey....i have a file with .chm ....does it open on linux? what's the program?
[09:18] <joakko> oh thanks!;)
[09:19] <crazy_penguin> Igor_V2: xchm or kchm
[09:19] <joakko> the problem with my cam is the brightness
[09:19] <Igor_V2> just .chm
[09:19] <Igor_V2> :T
[09:19] <joakko> i cant cntrol it
[09:19] <mulder> me, it's a problem with my sound card and also my logitech webcam. I will wait for help. Thanks
[09:19] <joakko> i think it must be the driver
[09:19] <crazy_penguin> Igor_V2: the programs name is xchm or kchm
[09:19] <E[m] ess> "The Composite Manager crashed twice within a minute and is therefore disabled for this session." crap..
[09:20] <nickv111> joakko: BTW, that article translated into Spanish is http://sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html
[09:20] <nickv111> joakko: I speak a little Spanish, also.
[09:20] <nickv111> joakko: Anyway, I've never used a webcam in Linux
[09:21] <nickv111> joakko: I'm not exactly sure how to answer your question
[09:21] <Igor_V2> crazy_penguin : OReilly.Learning.Python.chm
[09:21] <crazy_penguin> yes
[09:21] <nickv111> joakko: Try #v4l
[09:21] <crazy_penguin> Igor_V2: look for xchm or kchm
[09:21] <nickv111> joakko: It's the Video for Linux project channel, and they deal with things like webcams
[09:22] <crazy_penguin> apt-cache search xchm or apt-cache search kchm and after that if there are on the repo apt-get install
[09:22] <joakko> oh tkns very much! ill try it!
[09:22] <crazy_penguin> Igor_V2: whatever version you want
[09:23] <Igor_V2> thanks...
[09:23] <crazy_penguin> Igor_V2: you're welcome :)
[09:23] <crazy_penguin> sorry
[09:23] <Igor_V2> :)
[09:23] <crazy_penguin> the name for kde is kchmviewer Igor_V2
[09:24] <Igor_V2> ahh
[09:24] <crazy_penguin> not kchm
[09:24] <Igor_V2> ok..thanks
[09:24] <crazy_penguin> welcome
[09:24] <bLaZeD> helloa ll i just looked at my /etc/fstab.....it doesnt look like i remebred it....in fact i cant figure out how to adda deveice...can someone help me add my ipod to this list so when i mount it i have read/write axx to it.....my ipod comes up as /dev/sdb2
[09:26] <bLaZeD> like how do i get uuid
[09:28] <Kiongku> lol hmm
[09:28] <schizm> relative newbie to ubuntu, I had upgraded to edgy a while back because I wanted the latest packages.  Now that it's out how do I get into the next dev tree?  Looking for things like the new gaim release, the new frozen bubble, etc
[09:29] <Kiongku> hmm what u mean.. the repos?
[09:29] <schizm> ya
[09:29] <Kiongku> !edgy
[09:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[09:29] <Kiongku> answer in upgrade..
[09:29] <lea> peach
[09:29] <schizm> I had to put in different repos for Edgy a while back...are there new repos for the new dev tree?
[09:29] <Kiongku> got to modify ur sources.list
[09:29] <lea> kissmyyas
[09:29] <Kiongku> ya
[09:29] <lea> idiots
[09:30] <schizm> Kiongku: I understand that :)  I dont know what new repositories to put in though
[09:30] <Kiongku> anything that has edgy as distro
[09:30] <schizm> or if i had the dev ones for Edgy (when it was edgy) are they good going forward?
[09:30] <Kiongku> lol ambiguous question.. cant understand
[09:30] <schizm> heh
[09:31] <Kiongku> Edgy when it was Edgy?
[09:31] <schizm> perhaps i misunderstand the distro process (I'm a gentoo guy), let me rephrase
[09:31] <schizm> I switched to edgy 4-5 weeks ago, well before it was released...I had to add to my sources to do that.  I got some significant upgrades that way (that I needed).  Now that Edgy is out....is there a new tree/sources/repository I need to switch to to get the bleeding edge dev stuff for the next major release?
[09:32] <schizm> that make more sense? :>
[09:32] <buz> schizm: #ubuntu+1
[09:32] <Kiongku> hmm ya
[09:32] <buz> but i wouldnt recommend going to the next version any sooner than a few weeks before release
[09:32] <crazy_penguin> buz: #ubuntu+1 is closed
[09:32] <buz> unless you can deal with breakage left and right
[09:32] <schizm> i dont mind helping with testing/etc
[09:32] <buz> why??
[09:32] <schizm> breakage is fine
[09:32] <Igor_V2> hey guys....i use kubunto...but i've installed the gnome to see...but i wanna remove it...is that possible?
[09:32] <Dr_willis> why bother Igor_V2
[09:33] <crazy_penguin> buz: for now only
[09:33] <schizm> because I enjoy helping :)  I've helped test all sorts of linux distros since the 0.93 kernel
[09:33] <Dr_willis> i mixx and matxch the 2
[09:33] <buz> ah
[09:33] <schizm> call me a sadomasochist
[09:33] <Kiongku> schizm: think its good. Read the page about upgrades.
[09:33] <schizm> thanks
[09:33] <buz> why is my amarok eating 80% of my cpu?
[09:33] <Kiongku> btw what does lsb_release -a in konsole show u?
[09:33] <buz> thats totally insane
[09:33] <schizm> gotta say i like ubuntu, much cleaner than gentoo
[09:34] <Dr_willis> 'quiters never win, and winers never quit;
[09:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:34] <schizm> only major issue I've seen so far is once I went to edgy my firefox 2.0 stopped allowing me to delete tabs...still no idea why heh
[09:34] <mulder> I ha. Anyone can help?ve evrything working now apart from my audigy 2zs and my logitech webcam
[09:34] <Rajah3000> hehe, word!..I'm in a slump as well
[09:34] <Igor_V2> Dr_willis: because i'm with kubuntu with kde and gnome...i'll install ubuntu later...a friend of mine is waiting for some cds :D
[09:34] <schizm> Igor_V2: I'm running that as well, is that an issue?
[09:34] <schizm> I installed kubuntu cause it was the first thing I ran across...then I installed all of gnome and I use gnome
[09:35] <schizm> jdawiz: perhaps you are just not meant to use linux? :>
[09:35] <schizm> or you are too slow ;)
[09:35] <jdiwnab> That's what I think
[09:35] <jdiwnab> the first bit
[09:35] <crazy_penguin> could someone tell if is ok that in the upgrading process on dapper from kde 3.5.4/3.5.3 to 3.5.5 the package manager wants to remove kdelibs-bin package?
[09:35] <jdiwnab> Currently, both versions of the installer are freezing/chrashing consistantly
[09:36] <lucian303> emess, yes i had both gnome and kde (sorry i was away a bit)
[09:36] <Igor_V2> ??
[09:37] <annulus> crazy_penguin check this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-276947.html
[09:37] <jdiwnab> schizm, you know some stuff, do you have any idea what it might be?
[09:37] <crazy_penguin> thx annulus
[09:38] <schizm> jdiwnab: im very new to the ubuntu way of installing unfortunately
[09:38] <schizm> im a gentoo rat
[09:38] <schizm> although im in the process of converting i think
[09:38] <schizm> :)
[09:38] <annulus> crazy_penguin nevermind. you've got to check only the end of this page..there's the answer for your question :)
[09:38] <crazy_penguin> thx again annulus
[09:38] <crazy_penguin> :)
[09:38] <Dr_willis> jdiwnab,  you burnt the cd's yourself?
[09:39] <jdiwnab> yes, but the cd checks out
[09:39] <jdiwnab> both of them
[09:39] <phil_> hi, i have a question about an error i'm getting while trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy
[09:39] <mulder> I am absolutely in love with Kubuntu...what an achievement. I am really, really impressed by what Kubuntu has to offer. If I didn't have to use Reason on Windows, I would get rid of it once for all.
[09:39] <kepia> hi all I've got a problem: when I try to update apt-get it hangs at it.archive.ubuntu.com...
[09:40] <lucian303> E[m}ess: i think everything is running fine except the login screen and kde.
[09:40] <phil_> kepia... what error are you getting?
[09:40] <jdiwnab> Does the installer need an internet connection?
[09:40] <annulus> try another source, kepia
[09:40] <kepia> can you give me an url please?
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone try to duplicate this bug: hit specialkey + M
[09:40] <Igor_V2> hey guys....i use kubunto...but i've installed the gnome to see...but i wanna remove it...is that possible?
[09:40] <annulus> Admiral_Chicago amarok mutes, what kind of bug? :)
[09:41] <kepia> phil_: it says it's unable to connect to...
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> it happens with amarok, everything goes to the inveted colors and then back to normal except amarok
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> it stays inverted
[09:41] <canadaian> I LOVE KDE
[09:41] <canadaian> LONG LIVE KDE
[09:41] <LjL> !caps | long live lowercase
[09:41] <ubotu> long live lowercase: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:41] <mulder> Anyone to help with my audigy card and logitech webcam please? :-(
[09:41] <schizm> Igor_V2, can't you use synaptic and mark for removal?
[09:42] <phil_> hmm
[09:42] <annulus> Admiral_Chicago i've noticed no change in the colors..
[09:42] <phil_> i'm wondering if i'm having a similar problem as you kepia
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> annulus windows + M?
[09:42] <jdiwnab> should I try another channel?
[09:42] <Dr_willis> My audigy card works great.. no hassles.
[09:42] <annulus> Admiral_Chicago yup
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> jdiwnab: no it doesnt
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry i wasn't reading
[09:42] <Dr_willis> my 4 web cams are total garbage - none of them work. :)
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> annulus: edgy?
[09:43] <annulus> yup
[09:43] <canadaian> KDE ftw!
[09:43] <canadaian> hey
[09:43] <mulder> Dr Willis I have an audigy 2 zs
[09:43] <canadaian> ok
[09:43] <phil_> actually, it doesn't appear to be
[09:43] <canadaian> kubuntu or gentoo
[09:43] <Dr_willis> mulder,  me also.
[09:43] <canadaian> someone pick for me
[09:43] <canadaian> :(
[09:43] <mulder> how did you manage?
[09:43] <Dr_willis> canadaian,  go use puppylinux
[09:43] <canadaian> puppylinux?
[09:43] <canadaian> oo puppies!
[09:43] <Dr_willis> it has a cuter mascot.
[09:43] <schizm> all right, how do I make the gnome task manager allow me to mouse switch desktops (along the edges)
[09:43] <Dr_willis> and its a micro-live-cd.
[09:44] <kepia> phil_: in fact it was working yesterday... dunno if is a config. fault and if so how should I correct my sources.list?
[09:44] <Dr_willis> schizm,  this isent #gnome :)
[09:44] <schizm> heh i know :)
[09:44] <lucian303> i upgraded to edgy but kde won't start and my graphical login screen won't show up. i can login and do startx, but i get gnome, which was installed before. any ideas? i don't even think it's trying to load the graphical login screen?
[09:44] <schizm> figured I'd try ;)
[09:44] <geno_> I'm sure I am far from the first one to ask but how do I upgrade from Dapper to Edgy Eft? I did it from Breezy but I'm not so sure...
[09:44] <Dr_willis> schizm,  i recall a setting for that somewhere....
[09:44] <schizm> thanks, ill look around more, wasn't obvious
[09:44] <gnomefreak> geno_: gksudo "update-manager -c"
[09:44] <phil_> kepia, i got my list from http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[09:44] <Dr_willis> schizm,  heck they may of decided it was too complex for users...and removed it.
[09:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:45] <phil_> it seems to have worked pretty well
[09:45] <geno_> gnomefreak: merci!
[09:45] <schizm> that would stink
[09:45] <kepia> phil_: ok, tx
[09:45] <Dr_willis> schizm,  that seems to be the gnome way.
[09:45] <annulus> Admiral_Chicago i guess that something messed up within your enviroment :)
[09:45] <geno_> Woah c'est super!
[09:45] <meta> hi all
[09:45] <mulder> Do you know how to have the audigy 2 zs working Dr Willis, and can you help me with that please?
[09:45] <geno_> gnomefreak: Thanks!
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> lucian303: try sudo dpkg --reconfigure kdm
[09:45] <meta> i have 2 boxes and one cable, and no router. so i want to copy from box a to box b
[09:45] <geno_> IT's very nice!|
[09:45] <gnomefreak> geno_: yw
[09:46] <meta> how can i create a conenction between the two boxes?
[09:46] <h3sp4wn> meta: needs to be a crossover
[09:46] <meta> in the easiest way
[09:46] <felixjet> i installed a game with sudo, and now i can play only with sudo. its a risk ?
[09:46] <meta> i dunno what type is this
[09:46] <meta> so i heard about zeroconf but i duunno what is that
[09:46] <annulus> meta you've got ssh? then scp, you've got some kind of ftpd? then ncftp.. :)
[09:46] <meta> i have sftpd
[09:47] <meta> so i can sftp but if i conencts the two boxers
[09:47] <annulus> then create a user and connect from the another machine
[09:47] <meta> but i can't
[09:47] <gnomefreak> felixjet: its not a good idea to play games as sudo
[09:47] <meta> no network between the two box....
[09:47] <Admiral_Chicago> felixjet: i don't think it is, but as always you should run as little things sudo as possibl
[09:47] <Dr_willis> felixjet,  what game?
[09:47] <lucian303> admiral: i'll give it a shot ...
[09:47] <Admiral_Chicago> jdiwnab: i answered your question i theigh
[09:47] <felixjet> enemy territoryt
[09:47] <meta> how can i build up a network between the two machine?
[09:47] <meta> what program can do that?
[09:47] <annulus> meta give ip address to the two pc from the same block
[09:47] <meta> how?
[09:47] <annulus> example 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2
[09:47] <meta> i'm a newbie in this place
[09:47] <annulus> ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 ?
[09:47] <Dr_willis> meta,  you have 2 machines each has a network card?
[09:48] <felixjet> well, thanks. ill remove it and install again without sudo
[09:48] <meta> yes
[09:48] <meta> i have a cable that connect onebox to the dsl modem
[09:48] <Dr_willis> meta,  you need to wire them togehter then right? You need EITHER a crossover-network cable.. or a hub/switch and 2 more cables..
[09:48] <meta> no
[09:48] <meta> i have one cable, as i said...
[09:48] <jdiwnab> Admiral_Chicago, I can't find it in my backlog
[09:48] <meta> no way to copy box to box?:D
[09:49] <Dr_willis> meta,  a NORMAL network cable will not work.
[09:49] <meta> i can't belive that
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> jdiwnab: you don't need internet to install ubuntu
[09:49] <lucian303> admiral: it tells me dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[09:49] <Dr_willis> meta,  go reserch it then.., theres a reason crossover cables exist.
[09:49] <jdiwnab> oh, ok, but what about it freezing?
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know why it keeps crashing, did you do a checksum of the CDS?
[09:49] <jdiwnab> yes
[09:49] <jdiwnab> they check out
[09:49] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: edgy live cd?
[09:49] <meta> and what if it not crossover?
[09:49] <jdiwnab> live and the alternate
[09:49] <gnomefreak> both?
[09:49] <Dr_willis> meta,  then the wires wont connect right and it wont work.
[09:50] <jdiwnab> both
[09:50] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: what part is it freezing on?
[09:50] <jdiwnab> after it formats my drives
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> lucian303: try sudo dpkg --ronfigure kdm
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> lucian303: try sudo dpkg --configure kdm
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry
[09:50] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: during install of packages?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: at what percent is it stopping? and is it same time on both live and alternate?
[09:51] <FlameMaster> hello
[09:51] <lucian303> admiral: that gives me:   package kdm is already installed and configured
[09:51] <jdiwnab> on the live one, I click install and it formats my disk, then crashes/freezes. For the alt, it formats my drive and then sits there with a blue screen for (now) and hour and a half
[09:51] <FlameMaster> guys, I need a good firewall for kubuntu edgy
[09:51] <jdiwnab> no percentage
[09:51] <jdiwnab> no progress indicator
[09:51] <FlameMaster> any suggestions?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: do you still have the downloaded ISO's?
[09:52] <felixjet> FlameMaster: firestarter is good, dunno if its on edgy too
[09:52] <jdiwnab> yes
[09:52] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: check the md5sums please
[09:52] <jdiwnab> I used the disck check stuff on the disks
[09:52] <jdiwnab> and I did a memtest
[09:53] <sungam> felixjet: firestarter is on edgy I think. I have it and I don't think I ever installed it :)
[09:53] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: im hoping its either a bad md5 or a bad burn
[09:53] <FlameMaster> sungam: what do you use then?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> firestarter is still on ubuntu
[09:54] <gnomefreak> its not going anywhere
[09:54] <tfault> Hi all. Does someone know how to make apt-get resume partially downloaded files?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> tfault: run the command again
[09:54] <jdiwnab> what should the md5sum be?
[09:54] <FlameMaster> tfault: it should automatically resume
[09:54] <tfault> That does not work!
[09:54] <canadaian> so is kubuntu edgy fix alot of dapper bugs
[09:55] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: you have to check wher eyou got the iso from
[09:55] <sungam> FlameMaster: at the moment guard dog, but I'm not having oto much luck setting it up properly
[09:55] <deadsoul__> I downloaded aircrack. I want to crack the pw of certain network. I looked at help usage seems like: aircrack [options]  <.cap / .ivs file(s)>  . What is the cap and ivs file here. I can see network by the help of Wireless Assistant
[09:55] <gnomefreak> tfault: it does work. apt will always continue where left off
[09:55] <gnomefreak> tfault: what command where you using?
[09:55] <lucian303> i guess maybe what i need is a way to force x to start kde rather than gnome from the command line and see if that works. how would i do that?
[09:56] <tfault> gnomefreak: "apt-get install vegastrike" for example
[09:56] <FlameMaster> sungam: I installed KMyFirewall, but it's throwing me errors
[09:56] <TheGateKeeper> canadaian: nope it got a lot of it's very own
[09:56] <gnomefreak> lucian303: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[09:56] <tfault> gnomefreak: I know apt-get is supposed to resume old file but it does not now!
[09:56] <Admiral_Chicago> lucian303: try sudo apt-get remove gdm && sudo apt-get remove kdem && sudo apt-get install kdm
[09:56] <jdiwnab> md5sum check
[09:56] <gnomefreak> tfault: what is it doing?
[09:57] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: why?
[09:57] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: why not sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[09:57] <gnomefreak> that will set kdm as default
[09:57] <tfault> gnomefreak: It just starts downloading from the beginning of the file!
[09:57] <gnomefreak> tfault: what is it doing and how do you know its not fully downloaded?
[09:57] <gnomefreak> tfault: thats normal
[09:58] <gnomefreak> tfault: it saves some of it in cache
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: tried that already
[09:58] <gnomefreak> if it ended with say 3 seconds left the download isnt gonna start at 3seconds
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> no we didn't thats a lie
[09:58] <tfault> I have /some/ of the file in /var/cache/apt/archives/partial!
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> lucian303: listen to gnomefreak
[09:59] <sungam> FlameMaster: I'm running firestarter now, to see how it is. I haven't been using linux as my primary OS for very long, and haven't found a piece of firewall software I'm really happy with.
[09:59] <gnomefreak> tfault: if apt feels it can use it it will but if it started at 3sec. than it would leave app in an unstable state
[09:59] <FlameMaster> sungam: I'm installing firestarter right now
[10:00] <Dr_willis> ive rarely needed firewalls with linux. :P
[10:00] <sungam> :)
[10:00] <soulrider> can someone tell me how to read a file form a floppy drive ?
[10:00] <FlameMaster> you can never be too safe :)
[10:00] <sungam> I'd like a piece of software that behaved like Comodo or F-Secure does on Windows
[10:00] <sungam> behaves, I mean
[10:00] <bobbyyu> What's a good Edgy source where I can get libdvd packages?
[10:00] <Dr_willis> FlameMaster,  like wearing 2 raincoats. :)
[10:00] <sungam> hehe
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> bobbyyu: did you check the multiverse/universe
[10:01] <imbrandon> bobbyyu, http://seveas.imbrandon.com
[10:01] <FlameMaster> oh well, I just installed firestarter... I'll test it right now
[10:01] <bobbyyu> How do I add this to Adept?
[10:01] <gnomefreak> !repos
[10:01] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:02] <FlameMaster> Adept -> Manage Repositories
[10:02] <FlameMaster> uncomment the lines that have multiverse/universe
[10:03] <jdiwnab> gnomefreak, the checksum is Ok
[10:03] <Eddy> hi when i play BF2 in cedega is no sound. in Gnome is it sound but not i KDE how can i fix it ?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: what speed did you burn them on
[10:03] <Dr_willis> Eddy,  sounds like an alsa/oss/arts/esd issue. :()
[10:04] <soulrider> Dr_willis:  how can i read forma  floppy drive? /media/floppy isnt showing anything
[10:04] <Dr_willis> Eddy,  you may benifit by using a ultra light window manager   while playing games..
[10:04] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  mount it yet?
[10:04] <soulrider> isnt KDE supposed to mount it by default ?
[10:04] <jdiwnab> I burned the alternate one at 4x
[10:04] <imbrandon> no
[10:04] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  aparently its NOT....
[10:04] <soulrider> ok
[10:04] <jdiwnab> I burned the regular one at 10x
[10:04] <soulrider> what is it, /dev/hda ?
[10:04] <Dr_willis> I got a floppy drive.. but i dont think i got any floppies in the house.
[10:04] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: the 4x should be fine
[10:05] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  right click on the icon and see if theres a mount option.
[10:05] <imbrandon> soulrider, normaly /dev/fd0
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis: same here, why did i even get one
[10:05] <Eddy> what kommand do i run when i show kill all sound ?
[10:05] <jdiwnab> I am running the on-disk disk check for the alt disk
[10:05] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: i dont know why.
[10:05] <Eddy> kill...?
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> Eddy: pstree
[10:05] <soulrider> imbrandon: its working
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> look for the one running
[10:05] <soulrider> thanks1
[10:05] <soulrider> !
[10:05] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  mine is a floppy drive, and 8 in 1 media reader. combo
[10:05] <Eddy> wath?
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo killall kill <package>
[10:05] <gnomefreak> killall kill?
[10:06] <gnomefreak> kill is not a process it will say
[10:06] <Eddy> hhow do u kill all sound on my sound card ?
[10:06] <sungam> jdiwnab: I had issues installing Dapper when I was on wireless, and Ubuntu couldn't find the net.
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: i got confused. it's killall <process> or killall -KILL <process>
[10:07] <crazy_penguin> Eddy: mute
[10:07] <gnomefreak> Eddy: killall -9 arts
[10:07] <Eddy>  killall -9 arts
[10:07] <crazy_penguin> that's better
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: what does the -9 do?
[10:07] <Eddy> jea i think is whas that
[10:07] <bobbyyu> is it universe or universe multiverse?
[10:07] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: makes sure its dead i think that one ive never been real sure on
[10:08] <FlameMaster> Dr_willis: 50 TCP connections to unused ports on the past two minutes. Of course I had the need for the firewall
[10:08] <bobbyyu> How do I add the entire clause?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> bobbyyu: you want the lines that end in universe put a space and add multiverse if using the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[10:08] <FlameMaster> sungam: I just tested firestarter. It's simple yet powerful.
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: okay i wasn't sure about -9 or -7
[10:09] <lucian303> ok i managed to do dpkg-reconfig
[10:09] <bobbyyu> none of the DVD packages are appearing. What could be wrong?
[10:09] <lucian303> kdm was the default manager. i selected it again and when it tried to start it, i was just left with a blank screen and a cursor (no prompt or anything) so i rebooted
[10:10] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago: the kill command is really misnamed. It allows you to send a signal to the process. The -9 (or -kill) is a kill signal that cannot be ignored by the process. You can send a lot of different signals with kill :)
[10:10] <jdiwnab> gnomefreak, a person on another channel says that the 2 times he tried to install without a network connection, it would stop at the same point, but when he had a network connection, it did. But my NIC won't work untill I install
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> sungam: thanks. i've used kill all the time but never known what it does
[10:11] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: you *shouldnt* need a network connection to install ubuntu never have in past and afaik it hasnt changed
[10:11] <sungam> FlameMaster: have it running now, too. I'll have to see how it behaves :)
[10:11] <FlameMaster> sungam: yes I'm running it
[10:12] <FlameMaster> sungam: It started blocking everything but irc and instant messenging
[10:12] <FlameMaster> sungam: I quickly set up a rule for bittorrent and I have no problems ATM
[10:12] <sungam> FlameMaster: nice :)
[10:12] <lucian303> i did originally run into some problems with the upgrade because it refused to install kubuntu-desktop, so i installed some of its dependencies first which also removed some packages....
[10:13] <lucian303> and i have 34 packages that will not be upgraded
[10:14] <tfault> Could someone send me the output of "apt-config dump" from an Edgy Eft installation installed from official CD's?
[10:14] <bobbyyu> I'm stuck: Where can I get extra help on adding universe packages?
[10:15] <FlameMaster> bobbyyu: I told you already
[10:15] <Filipek> why extra? where is the problem?
[10:15] <FlameMaster> bobbyyu: Adept -> Manage Repositories
[10:15] <rdl> yo
[10:15] <rdl> i need help to install video and audio codecs on my laptop
[10:15] <FlameMaster> bobbyyu: right-click on the lines that say universe or multiverse, and click on "enable"
[10:15] <FlameMaster> bobbyyu: then click on apply and done
[10:16] <lucian303> anyone have any ideas on how i can get kde running again in edgy?
[10:16] <sungam> rdl: automatix :) www.getautomatix.com, did the job for me both on my laptop and desktop
[10:16] <bobbyyu> But I did
[10:17] <Filipek> rdl: ye - automatix rocks in these jobs...
[10:17] <Dr_willis> when it dont trash your system. ;)
[10:17] <hyjkim> hey
[10:17] <rdl> thx
[10:18] <LjL> !automatix | rdl, Filipek
[10:18] <ubotu> rdl, Filipek: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[10:18] <FlameMaster> bobbyyu: You might want to add multiverse repositories. Type: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ on "New Repository" and click "Add"
[10:18] <rdl> !automatix
[10:18] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[10:19] <bobbyyu> Do I need to type Deb?
[10:19] <hyjkim> I'm a newbie to linux... I'm trying to install my wireless card through this HOWTO [http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102] . It instructs me to reboot with 2.6.17-7-generic kernel in GRUB. I can't find this option in my grub loader!
[10:19] <Filipek> that means helping someone with my exp. means giving him "official" support? hmmm
[10:19] <hyjkim> I installed kubuntu 6.10 64-bit
[10:19] <FlameMaster> bobbyyu: my bad
[10:19] <FlameMaster> bobbyyu: "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse"
[10:20] <rdl> gedit command not found
[10:20] <rdl> heh
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> rdl: try kate
[10:21] <rdl> i have 6.06 version
[10:22] <jmichaelx> would anyone have a suggestion as to how to get mplayer-plugin to work properly in firefox (in edgy)? i did uninstall totem, and re-installed mplayer, but it is still not functioning correctly
[10:22] <rdl> how can i upgrade to it to 6.10?
[10:22] <hyjkim> Is there anyway to use 2.6.17-7-generic kernel? I can only access 2.6.17-10-generic kernel in GRUB
[10:22] <jdiwnab> !upgrade | rdl
[10:22] <ubotu> rdl: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:22] <Admiral_Chicago> !update > rdl
[10:25] <cps1966> !java
[10:25] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:25] <hyjkim> !kernel
[10:25] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:31] <davix> cheers, I have two ethernet cards, one is on a pci slot and one is a built in on the mother board, the built in does not recognise itself automaticly but the pci card does, how can I add the built in card as well?
[10:31] <flexan> Hello
[10:31] <flexan> I would like to install Kubuntu 6.10 but I can't get the liveCD to boot so I can do an install
[10:31] <flexan> It hangs at a light blue screen with a mouse cursor
[10:31] <flexan> any suggestions?
[10:32] <sungam> how long does it hang?
[10:32] <flexan> indefinately
[10:32] <sungam> because it takes a while to load hte os from the disk :)
[10:32] <sungam> ah
[10:32] <flexan> i can hear the startup sound
[10:32] <flexan> but all i get is a lightblue screen and cursor. no icons/menus/etc
[10:33] <flexan> i've also tried the Graphics Safe Mode with the same results
[10:33] <mofle> hi can anyone help me with my printer? :)
[10:34] <sungam> flexan: sorry, it left my scope of knowledge at the point when it wasn't just you being impatient with the os loading :)
[10:34] <flexan> lol
[10:34] <flexan> thanks, np
[10:35] <flexan> is there a way to install without having to boot into X?
[10:35] <flexan> so then i could install the nvidia driver and hopefully get X to start?
[10:35] <flexan> AFAIK i have to boot into X to run the install, i am hoping I am wrong
[10:36] <cps1966> is there a switch i can use so apt doesn't check anything
[10:36] <sungam> first time I installed Dapper I downloaded the server instead of desktop. The dapper server didn't require X I think
[10:36] <sungam> maybe the same goes for the Edgy server
[10:36] <rdl> how many files will download for upgrade to 6.10?
[10:36] <flexan> sungam: i'll give that a try. i saw an alternate CD as well, maybe i can try both
[10:37] <sungam> flexan: just don't shoot me if it doesn't work, they're only guesses, tbh
[10:37] <FlameMaster> alternate cd allows you to install without booting from livecd
[10:37] <flexan> sungam: I don't own a gun, so you are safe ;-)
[10:37] <flexan> FlameMaster: does it boot into X?
[10:38] <FlameMaster> flexan: no
[10:38] <FlameMaster> flexan: the alternate cd is not bootable
[10:38] <flexan> excellent
[10:38] <FlameMaster> flexan: afaik
[10:38] <FlameMaster> flexan: and it gives you more install options than the regular cd
[10:38] <flexan> i'll give that a shot, i'm sure if I can get kubuntu installed, even if X doesn't work I can mess with my xorg.conf and get X working.b ut with the LiveCD if X doesn't work you are basically stuck
[10:39] <flexan> thank you :-)
[10:39] <sungam> I have a thinkpad with a harddrive sensor. The hdaps module is installed, but apparantly I need a queue-freeze patch enabled for the protection system to work. Anyone know how I can see if the queue-freeze patch is included in the kernel I have installed?
[10:40] <flexan> FlameMaster: Do you know if there is a list of cheatcodes (boot options) available for the desktop or alternate 6.10 CD?
[10:41] <OSUKid7> hey, how can I not allow concurrent KDE logons, to save memory on a slow system? also, how can I automatically log the user out after so many minutes of inactivity?
[10:41] <FlameMaster> flexan: no
[10:41] <flexan> alright,t hanks
[10:47] <grothesk> Hi!
[10:47] <scion> hello
[10:47] <grothesk> Anyone running emerald on kubuntu Edgy?
[10:48] <sungam> yes
[10:48] <grothesk> I'm missing the window decorations, when starting emerald.
[10:48] <sungam> try doing a "killall emerald" and then "emerald" after
[10:48] <doppelganger_> anyone heard of anyone with Audigy-Extigy problems since upgrading to Edgy?
[10:49] <mofle> is there any printer drivers for lexmark 2300 series?
[10:49] <|lostbyte|> !6001
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 6001 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <doppelganger_> i had my tv run through my extigy, into the pc, then out to a stereo i have
[10:50] <doppelganger_> now for some reason it doesn't work, or at least not the spdif part that the tv outputs into the extigy
[10:50] <grothesk> sungam: Does not work here.
[10:50] <doppelganger_> spdif is enabled, and worked just fine with Dapper
[10:50] <grothesk> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169 What might that mean, sungam?
[10:50] <Rajah3000> What was that command again to change (the write-protected) text file for the repositories(sources.list)?
[10:50] <doppelganger_> i can even plug my guitar into the stereo plug on the extigy and get sound
[10:51] <doppelganger_> but...  for some reason no spdif in
[10:51] <sungam> grothesk: hmm... are you running beryl-manager?
[10:51] <ubuntu__> got prob... am in cdboot mode of kubuntu + monitor res is onlz 800x600 i tried to change but kubuntu onlz supports 800x600 wtf?
[10:51] <grothesk> Yes, I am.
[10:51] <sungam> grothesk: there's quite a few threads about it on the beryl-project.org forums
[10:51] <doppelganger_> must....watch.... football....  in.....  5.1....
[10:52] <sungam> grothesk: my solution was a startup script which starts emerald twice :)
[10:52] <sungam> grothesk: the solution that worked for me I mean
[10:52] <grothesk> sungam: Thanks! I'll have a look there.
[10:52] <Ace2016> Hi akk
[10:52] <Ace2016> :(
[10:52] <Ace2016> hi all :)
[10:52] <Ace2016> can anyone help me to install this: http://search.cpan.org/dist/last.fm-ripper/
[10:52] <BonBonTheJon> hi Ace2016
[10:52] <mofle> unbuntu_: thats an easy one , theres a lot of information on the forums
[10:52] <Ace2016> I tried myself and it gives an error
[10:53] <Ace2016> Undefined argument in option spec
[10:53] <Ace2016> And now i don't know what to do
[10:53] <Ace2016> Is there some sort of cpan library i have to install to get this to run?
[10:53] <Rajah3000> can you use  kdesu kate to edit a write-protected file, or do you have to use kwrite?
[10:54] <BonBonTheJon> Rajah3000: you can do kdesu kate
[10:54] <Ace2016> you can use either
[10:54] <Rajah3000> Ok, How do you use I mean in what do you use it?
[10:54] <Ace2016> kdesu allows a program to run with root access
[10:54] <galorin_> I've got a kubuntu sytem that I've installed mythtv on.  I'd like to install and configure a VNC server on it without interrupting the tv-watching going on, start up a VNC client elsewhere and connect to an already-running session.  Is this at all possible?
[10:55] <Ace2016> i use it mainly to edit files in /etc/ like fstab and privoxy files
[10:55] <Rajah3000> Ok, that is what I want is there a step-by step to use it, or can someone tell me how to get in it and edit a file?
[10:56] <Ace2016> Rajah3000: press Alt+f2 and type "kdesu kwrite" or "kdesu kate" then kate or kwrite will open with root access, just go file open and open the file, edit it as you like and save
[10:57] <MetaMorfoziS> !intel
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i install driver for intel itnegrated videocard?
[10:58] <MetaMorfoziS> i have found this: xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:58] <MetaMorfoziS> but this is what i need? and need i enable it anyway? like nvidia-glx-config enable?
[10:58] <avuton> How do I install pulseaudio in kubuntu? I see it: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/sound/pulseaudio
[10:58] <avuton> apt-get install pulseaudio doesn't work
[10:59] <buz> avuton: its not in ubuntu
[10:59] <Ace2016> avuton: you could compile it yourself
[10:59] <buz> just because its in debian unstable doesnt mean its in ubuntu (usually thats true though)
[10:59] <avuton> Oh, I'm sorry, I thought that was true :/
[11:00] <jmichaelx> would anyone have a suggestion as to how to get mplayer-plugin to work properly in firefox (in edgy)? i did uninstall totem, and re-installed mplayer, but it is still not functioning correctly
[11:04] <Rajah3000> then I need to do the uprade for the repositories right?..what's that command again?
[11:06] <cps1966> dpkg -i '/home/kane/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb'
[11:06] <cps1966> (Reading database ... 81157 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:06] <cps1966> Unpacking sun-java5-bin (from .../sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
[11:06] <cps1966> sun-dlj-v1-1 license has already been accepted
[11:06] <cps1966> dpkg: error processing /home/kane/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--install):
[11:06] <cps1966>  corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[11:06] <cps1966> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[11:06] <cps1966> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:06] <cps1966>  /home/kane/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[11:09] <Ace2016> cps1966: How come your not installing from the ubuntu repos?
[11:10] <Ash-Fox> !mp3
[11:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:10] <RogueJediX> What's the difference between removing and purging in adept?
[11:11] <Lynoure> purging removes configurations as well
[11:11] <RogueJediX> Neat. Thanks, Lynoure
[11:15] <__osh__> Anyone know gdb in here? In "gdb" after I've run gdb on a process and applied a breakpoint, how do I continue running the program?
[11:17] <Rajah3000> Ok, one more thing I wanna know is what do I type to install packages that I have downloaded,and which extentions can I manually install in terminal?
[11:18] <icheyne> does anyone know how to tile windows in kde? I can see the unclutter command, but that's not exactly what I am after as it does not resize windows to fit
[11:18] <scion> sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[11:18] <Rajah3000> ok
[11:19] <Dr_willis> heh - i cant even see the unclutter option
[11:19] <icheyne> Dr_willis, middle mouse click the desktop for unclutter
[11:20] <RogueJediX> Huh, neat. Didn't even know about that little trick
[11:21] <Dr_willis> well isent that special
[11:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:21] <Dr_willis> with the invention of the mouse wheel.. most people dont even try to middle click.
[11:21] <Dr_willis> *sigh*
[11:22] <h3sp4wn> I middle click more than left click I would say
[11:22] <RogueJediX> I'm still in the 90s, I guess. Though I do middle click a lot in Konqueror when opening tabs
[11:22] <jerp> So I can compile some software I need to add the build-essentials.  apt-get, asks for me to load the CD, I load the live cd and I can't clear the message box and can't get apt-get to read from the live disc rather than the /cdrom/ folder.  Any tricks?
[11:25] <Dr_willis> jerp,  download the stuff off the itnernet.
[11:25] <Dr_willis> remove the cd item in the apt.sources
[11:25] <Dr_willis> im not sure build-essentials is even on the cd
[11:25] <jerp> ahh, ok.  thanks
[11:26] <RogueJediX> Well, maybe bits and pieces for it are
[11:26] <gnomefreak> it is
[11:26] <RogueJediX> It is?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> the build-essential package is on cd
[11:26] <Dr_willis> but is it on the live cd and the alt-install cd? or just the alt?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> not installed by default but is on cd
[11:26] <Dr_willis> or both.. :)
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: both should have it
[11:27] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: not sure you can install packages from livecd though now that i think of it
[11:27] <dennister> g'day all
[11:27] <gnomefreak> if you can than its there
[11:27] <icheyne> can you get Firefox 2.0 if you want to stay in Dapper for a while?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> meaning you dont need net to install it
[11:27] <gnomefreak> icheyne: sure
[11:27] <gnomefreak> !firefox | icheyne
[11:27] <ubotu> icheyne: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:28] <dennister> can someone help me fix my cron pls? konq and shells r constantly crashing
[11:28] <icheyne> I just read this and it told me how to do it: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/10/brief-look-at-couple-of-new-features.html
[11:29] <dennister> i think i may need to update my db again, but aam haviy cause cron can't lock the pid
[11:29] <gnomefreak> icheyne: please use the one i gave you (you have to leave the old one installed) i dont know what outside sources say
[11:30] <dennister> !cron
[11:30] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[11:32] <dennister> unfortunately the howto isn't much good to me if cron: can't lock /var/run/cronid.pid
[11:33] <Tim_> Hi all
[11:33] <Tim_> I have a Q
[11:34] <dennister> Tim_: well? the Q?
[11:35] <_JP> is there anything i can do in adept manager during the preparation of installed packages if some installation happens to be interactive and tries to query something
[11:35] <Dr_willis> _JP,  i thoght it alwasy poped up a dialog/requestor...
[11:35] <Tim_> can i undo a file-delete? is there a trashcan?
[11:36] <Dr_willis> Tim_,  bottom right in the panel
[11:36] <Dr_willis> looks like a... err.. trashcan. :)
[11:36] <dennister> hi Dr_willis
[11:36] <Tim_> ah, omg i didnt see it
[11:36] <Dr_willis> Tim_,  :)
[11:36] <dennister> can u help me with this cron problem?
[11:36] <Tim_> its soo small =)
[11:36] <Lynoure> Tim_: only works for GUI deletes, though, so be careful on the command line
[11:37] <Tim_> ok
[11:37] <Tim_> thx
[11:37] <Dr_willis> Tim_,  ive never heard 'that' befor. :)
[11:37] <Tim_> heh
[11:37] <_JP> Dr_willis: i just upgraded to edgy and i'm installing some basic apps i need. i have right now a "Configuring j2re1.4, <ok>" prompt inside adept (visible only if details shown). i can't find any way to make it continue
[11:37] <jerp> Dr_willis: now I'm not able to download the repository indexes, any ideas?
[11:38] <Dr_willis> _JP,  click in the window and hit Y/enter ?
[11:38] <Dr_willis> jerp,  some servers are lagged/down perhaps.
[11:38] <Dr_willis> jerp,  any specific repo you having issues with?
[11:38] <Ace2016> How do i update the locate database?
[11:38] <_JP> Dr_willis: i tried but it's not getting focus or something
[11:39] <dennister> dang! shell crashed again!
[11:39] <jerp> I've got 6 in in a message box, but ok.  dinnertime here anyways, thanks for your help.
[11:39] <_JP> nevermind, i managed to navigate into it by hitting tab
[11:39] <Dr_willis> _JP,  odd.. theres some sort of other packages that used to be needed to installeed. according to the !java factoid..
[11:39] <Lynoure> Ace2016: sudo updatedb  updates it, it does take a bit of time
[11:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:39] <iAlber> hi there, is it still necessary with the Kubuntu 6,10 version and a fresh install to install smp kernel for a dual processor ?
[11:39] <jerp> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[11:40] <Dr_willis> iAlber,  smp is the default.
[11:40] <Dr_willis> localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1) ?
[11:40] <iAlber> thx
[11:40] <Dr_willis> jerp,  thts trying to connect to yourself?
[11:40] <Dr_willis> try     ping us.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:40] <Ace2016> Lynoure: Thanks
[11:40] <jerp> really?  whywould it do that?
[11:40] <jerp> ok
[11:41] <Dr_willis> ping us.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:41] <Dr_willis> PING mirror.mcs.anl.gov (146.137.96.7) 56(84) bytes of data.
[11:41] <larson9999> what's all the hubbub with the edgy upgrade?  i've upgraded 3 different classes off machines with kubuntu and xubuntu and had no problems at all
[11:41] <Dr_willis> larson9999,  you are one of the lucky ones i guess
[11:42] <jerp> yeah, I've got a reply
[11:42] <jerp> too
[11:42] <Dr_willis> same ip?
[11:42] <jerp> my ping seems to run forever, is there a switch that should be added?
[11:42] <Dr_willis> hit ctrl-c
[11:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:43] <larson9999> Dr_willis: so are there lots of real issues or is it mostly user error?  i'm a little paranoid and wonder if i have problems and just don't notice :)
[11:43] <Dr_willis> larson9999,  from what ive heard... lets see.. the standard 'video drivers vanish issue' and sound cards vanish issues... and upstart causes a few problems..
[11:44] <Dr_willis> and a few fstab conversion issues.. people 'loseing' their swap entrys
[11:44] <romeo_> hello ive installed chrrotkit and rkhunter but i can t seen to find it
[11:44] <romeo_> or run it
[11:45] <Dr_willis> installed them how romeo_ ?
[11:45] <jerp> 64 bytes from alpaca-ii.it.anl.gov (146.137.96.15): icmp_seq=13 ttl=42 time=156 ms
[11:45] <romeo_> with adept
[11:45] <larson9999> Dr_willis: seems i don't have any of those issues.  the only thing i even had to do was change my resolution back to my preference
[11:45] <Tim_> I easy Q prob: how do i set my root PW?
[11:45] <romeo_> i ts not in the menu
[11:45] <Dr_willis> check theor homepages for guides..  you expecting to find icons for them? they may be command line progs only
[11:46] <romeo_> tried command
[11:46] <romeo_> does show up
[11:46] <romeo_> not*
[11:46] <Dr_willis> romeo_,  when in doubt.. check their homepages for tutorials.. i dont use either program.
[11:46] <romeo_> ok
[11:46] <Dr_willis> use the package manager to see what files they isntalled.
[11:46] <Tim_> someone?
[11:47] <Dr_willis> Tim_,  :) its like a Linux Compentacy test..
[11:47] <dennister> Dr_willis: could u please help me figure out why konq, my shells, and K3rb keep crashing on me?
[11:47] <romeo_> np dependicies
[11:47] <romeo_> just the program
[11:47] <romeo_> no*
[11:47] <Dr_willis> Tim_,  use passwd  as the root user.
[11:47] <dennister> i did the updatedb, but whenever i try to do anything with cron i'm told it can't lock the file
[11:47] <Dr_willis> !sudo
[11:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:47] <Tim_> ok thx!
[11:48] <Dr_willis> dennister,   mass crashing. ick. :)
[11:48] <dennister> another pid is using it, apparently
[11:48] <dennister> i'm at my wit's end
[11:49] <jerp> Dr_willis,  ya got anything quick to fix that "Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)"
[11:49] <dennister> root_: can u pls change ur nic?
[11:50] <larson9999> Dr_willis: judging by some of the social news sites, edgy sucks but seems fine to me.  i figured since i upgraded to 3 very different machines i'd have seen some of the issues.  actually, i think this was the smoothest upgrade ever for me.  go figure.
[11:51] <Dr_willis> i always do clean reinstalls.. :)
[11:51] <Dr_willis> there will be a new batch of problems.. and old things fixed.
[11:52] <Dr_willis> i DO think they set up the ntfs drives where a normal user can access them by default.. so that gets rid of a top 10 FAQ in these channels.
[11:52] <Dr_willis> jerp,  lets clarify - ping did NOT show an ip of 127.0.0.1 ?
[11:52] <jerp> right
[11:52] <jerp> 64 bytes from alpaca-ii.it.anl.gov (146.137.96.15): icmp_seq=13 ttl=42 time=156 ms
[11:52] <Dr_willis> jerp,  thats... weird...
[11:53] <root_> nabend wie kann ich hier die rme wechseln?
[11:53] <Dr_willis> double check your apt.sources and see what servers its trying to get to.
[11:53] <larson9999> Dr_willis: i did up until mdk 2006.  well, actually i always did upgrades first but always had so many problems i ended up doing a clean install.  mdk was the first time a didn't need to do a clean install.  and so far with *buntu i've always just upgraded.
[11:53] <root_> aha
[11:54] <larson9999> s/mdk was/mdk 2006 was/
[11:54] <Dr_willis> I just keep /home on its own hard drive. and clean install.. i got a script i made to reinstall the pacakges i like.
[11:55] <cps1966> man this is nuts no matter how i get sun-java5-bin it fails
[11:56] <Dr_willis> sun-java-bin? Hmm
[11:56] <Dr_willis> !java
[11:56] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:56] <Dr_willis> i always install   install sun-java5-jre
[11:56] <Hamal_Dragon> hello
[11:56] <cps1966> well it wants sun-java5-bin also
[11:57] <root_> wo kann man sich ne serverliste holen ?
[11:57] <Dr_willis> !de
[11:57] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:58] <Hamal_Dragon> i have a problem with kubuntu. After update to edgy, i cant boot. The message is that the target filesystem doesnt have /sbin/init, and then, it starts busybox
[11:58] <cobus> hey people
[11:58] <Hamal_Dragon> and i have chrooted the partition, and indeed theres no init on sbin
[11:58] <root_> keine probleme  nur mein englisch ist shit
[11:58] <Hamal_Dragon> i dont know what to do
[11:58] <heinkel_111> upgrading alwaays makes me nervous...but hell yeah, I am now on Edgy! :)
[11:59] <Hamal_Dragon> lucky guy, lol
[11:59] <root_> danke fr keine hilfe
[11:59] <cps1966> Dr_willis:  well sometings wrong with that file because none of the rest fails
[11:59] <Hamal_Dragon> is there a way to restore init?
[11:59] <LjL> !de
[11:59] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:59] <Jonty> I'm trying to use Compiz on Edgy, but the start-compiz script can't be found. What can I do?
[12:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:00] <Dr_willis> 'just say no' heh heh.
[12:00] <cobus> im also on edgy and new on linux
[12:00] <Hamal_Dragon> theres a way to restore init without reinstalling all the os?
[12:01] <cps1966> Dr_willis the file its asking for is only 21.3 MB but its looking for 22.3 Mb
[12:02] <Dr_willis> cps1966,  may be a bad file
[12:03] <cps1966> i've tried it many way with same results
[12:04] <Dr_willis> cps1966,  so you are doing a 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre' ? and it fails on sun-java-bin ?
[12:04] <cps1966> yes
[12:04] <RobertX> Help! I need help! When I login to Kubuntu, it says "Cannot start up kstartconfig or whatever
[12:04] <RobertX> I cannot log in!
[12:04] <cps1966> Fetched 22.3MB in 2m7s (175kB/s)
[12:04] <cps1966> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:04] <cps1966> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[12:04] <Jonty> pastebin what it says, or, remember it faithfully
[12:05] <cobus> people i was on suse for a while and decided to move to kubuntu
[12:05] <RobertX> I can't! i can't log in to use anything!
[12:05] <Dr_willis> !info sun-java5-jre
[12:05] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB
[12:05] <Dr_willis> !info sun-java5-bin
[12:05] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 21811 kB, installed size 65084 kB
[12:05] <C-O-L-T> 	hello I have a bug with power management in dapper. When I close my laptop lid ubuntu shuts down my screen and when I reopen it I can not turn my screen on just with ctrl+alt+f7
[12:05] <cobus> on suse i used smart installer what willi use on kubuntu
[12:05] <Dr_willis> cps1966,  and you do have 'multiverse' enabled eh?
[12:05] <cps1966> yes
[12:05] <Dr_willis> cobus,  the apt-get system is used by ubuntu/kubuntu
[12:05] <Dr_willis> !synaptic
[12:05] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[12:05] <Jonty> cobus: apt-get (install|remove)
[12:05] <Dr_willis> !adept
[12:05] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:06] <Jonty> I'm trying to use Compiz on Edgy, but the start-compiz script can't be found. What can I do?
[12:06] <cobus> ok so how do i install VLC with this thing then
[12:06] <Jonty> sudo apt-get install vlc, perhaps?
[12:07] <Jonty> or kdesu synaptic, or go to it in the K-menu, and search for vlc for any related packages
[12:07] <jerp> I can't get into repositories to correct the situation.
[12:07] <Dr_willis> !info vlc
[12:07] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[12:07] <Jonty> jerp: what?
[12:07] <Dr_willis> cobus,  fire up a package manager you like.. and search/click/install.
[12:07] <Dr_willis> be sure the universe repository is enabled.
[12:08] <jerp> the apt-get won't let me load the build essentials
[12:08] <cobus> ok how do i enable it
[12:08] <Dr_willis> cobus,  synaptic and adept both have menu items to manage the repos.
[12:08] <arelisea> hi
[12:09] <jerp> I put the cd in and it reads from /cdrom/ rather than the live cd in the cdrom0
[12:09] <arelisea> somebody speak spanish?
[12:09] <arelisea> or german?
[12:09] <arelisea> i from spain
[12:09] <jerp> maybe I'll do a reinstall
[12:10] <Dr_willis> cobus,  if you use the add/remove rograms - icon. it has check box's for enabling them all. 'Unsupported' and "propitary"
[12:10] <Dr_willis> check them both.. search, install.
[12:10] <Dr_willis> be sure to select the 'any suite' also.. :)
[12:10] <cps1966> Dr_willis:  how can i get src and do it that way
[12:11] <Dr_willis> cps1966,  no idea there.. getting java going was a 10 sec thing on this install.
[12:11] <arelisea> how can i connect to unother server? "/server irc-pulsar2.com"?or?