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| jbailey | sistpoty: I don't know about in-kernel stuff, sorry. =) | 12:35 |
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| sistpoty | jbailey: ok, thanks anyway ;) | 12:36 |
| jbailey | sistpoty: I'd be surprised if kernel modules were expected to use the public syscall interface. | 12:36 |
| sistpoty | jbailey: no, faumachine isn't only a kernel module, it's s.th. like qemu (actually uses parts of the qemu cpu) and provides a kernel-module as well. | 12:40 |
| sistpoty | jbailey: but I know much less about kernel stuff... only that it doesn't compile on edgy *g* | 12:40 |
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| ajmitch | sistpoty: I've got an example for doing it directly via ioctls | 12:49 |
| ajmitch | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28739/ | 12:50 |
| sistpoty | ajmitch: nice... thx! | 12:51 |
| ajmitch | it's a nasty hack of course | 12:52 |
| sistpoty | ajmitch: it is... but better than nothing :) | 12:54 |
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| sistpoty | gn8 everyone | 01:16 |
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| BenC | Ping reply from BenC: 0.21 second(s) | 01:34 |
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| infinity | BenC: Woo, you got a real connection, finally? | 06:06 |
| infinity | BenC: What's that costing you? | 06:06 |
| BenC | infinity: there difference between this and the satellite is about $450/month | 06:07 |
| infinity | Ouch. | 06:07 |
| BenC | trust me, live with satellite for a year, and you'll pony up that extra few bucks too :) | 06:07 |
| infinity | Time to start selling the neighbour's cows to make ends meet? | 06:07 |
| BenC | I may attach wireless repeaters to the cows and sell off some b/w to neighbors :) | 06:08 |
| fabbione | BenC: congratulation! | 06:33 |
| BenC | hehe, thanks | 06:33 |
| fabbione | infinity: i see that the kernel is there, but there have been other upload accepted in the archive? | 06:39 |
| fabbione | infinity: base-files and debootstrap? | 06:39 |
| fabbione | (and no email to feisty-changes) | 06:40 |
| infinity | I have a feeling feisty-changes needs moderating to whitelist LP. | 06:41 |
| fabbione | ah ok | 06:42 |
| fabbione | why base-files and deboostrap have been approved? | 06:42 |
| infinity | Because I felt like it. :) | 06:42 |
| fabbione | aren't they supposed to come after toolchain bootstrapping? | 06:42 |
| fabbione | yeah right.. :P | 06:43 |
| infinity | base-files is arch:all, and it'd be nice for feisty systems to claim to be feisty. | 06:43 |
| infinity | debootstrap builds a bit of C, but the benefit of having it outweighs the "hey, everything should use the new toolchain!!" goal, IMO. | 06:43 |
| fabbione | hmmm ok | 06:44 |
| infinity | (Well, okay, base-files isn't TECHNICALLY arch:all, but it doesn't build any C) | 06:44 |
| infinity | Oh man, hppa is going to be a mess. | 06:44 |
| fabbione | we are changing binutils to use that hash thingy that's supposed to speed up stuff | 06:44 |
| fabbione | that's why i was kind of surprised :) | 06:45 |
| infinity | debhelper/dpkg/libsepol/etc/etc.. I need to remember how I bootstrapped that in early edgy. :) | 06:45 |
| fabbione | uh why? | 06:45 |
| fabbione | i don't think it's going to be a big deal | 06:45 |
| infinity | Define "big deal". | 06:45 |
| fabbione | with the new bootstrapping sequence you get the toolchain almost out of the box | 06:45 |
| infinity | I need to manually bootstrap the packaging toolchain, then rebuild it later. | 06:45 |
| fabbione | that's fun :) | 06:46 |
| infinity | (Note that the packaging toolchain kinda needs to be there before anything -- including the kernel -- can actually build) | 06:46 |
| fabbione | well bootstrap it once.. with the big merge of death they will all get rebuilt | 06:46 |
| fabbione | jb gave me gcc-4.1 packages for hppa.. | 06:47 |
| fabbione | do you want me to upload them somewhere for you? | 06:47 |
| infinity | Yeah. That was, more-or-less, the plan. | 06:47 |
| fabbione | do you want it or not? | 06:47 |
| fabbione | scp from here takes time. | 06:47 |
| infinity | May as well. | 06:48 |
| infinity | Though it's glibc that introduces the ABI change for hppa, so that's really what I want. | 06:48 |
| fabbione | glibc requires new binutils | 06:48 |
| fabbione | that we don't have yet | 06:49 |
| infinity | Yeah. I know. | 06:49 |
| fabbione | i am upload gcc/make/module-init-tools | 06:49 |
| infinity | hppa and I are just playing a bit right now, I'm not doing any real work there. | 06:49 |
| infinity | I'll do the other 5. | 06:49 |
| fabbione | don't use the binutils in that tar | 06:49 |
| fabbione | they are known to be broken | 06:49 |
| fabbione | yeah i know | 06:49 |
| infinity | hppa will still not have a chroot for feisty until I'm positive of the best way to get from A to B. | 06:49 |
| fabbione | yeps make sense | 06:49 |
| infinity | (Cause a chroot for feisty means hppa will suddenly have several thousand builds queued) | 06:50 |
| fabbione | yes i know that :) | 06:51 |
| fabbione | you need to ask Malcc to prepare feisty pockets | 06:51 |
| fabbione | -updates and -security are not there | 06:51 |
| === infinity does a queue-builder run and wonders if this is a bad idea... | ||
| fabbione | bah i become addicted to "friends" | 07:04 |
| infinity | Hahahaha. | 07:05 |
| fabbione | chinstrap.ubuntu.com:hppa/. | 07:14 |
| fabbione | my home of course | 07:14 |
| fabbione | remember binutils there is borked | 07:14 |
| infinity | BenC: Still alive? | 07:56 |
| BenC | infinity: yeah | 07:57 |
| infinity | You have new build failures. :) | 07:57 |
| infinity | Welcome to feisty! | 07:57 |
| infinity | (sparc and powerpc so far) | 07:57 |
| infinity | I'm okay with "not caring until Monday" if you'd prefer... I think we could all use a weekend. | 07:58 |
| infinity | But if you're feeling like a keener... | 07:58 |
| fabbione | feh | 07:58 |
| BenC | if it's failing to build, I blame the chroot :P | 07:58 |
| BenC | it's been building fine for me for weeks | 07:58 |
| infinity | Not much in the chroot to blame. | 07:58 |
| fabbione | infinity: build logs? | 07:59 |
| BenC | yeah, give me a log to look at | 07:59 |
| infinity | http://librarian.launchpad.net/4938614/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-sparc.linux-source-2.6.19_2.6.19-1.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 07:59 |
| infinity | http://librarian.launchpad.net/4938613/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-powerpc.linux-source-2.6.19_2.6.19-1.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 07:59 |
| fabbione | sparc is.. special | 07:59 |
| fabbione | looks like bash dash breakage | 08:00 |
| infinity | Still using bash in the chroots. | 08:00 |
| fabbione | infinity: what's the default shell in feisty chroots? | 08:00 |
| infinity | (Thanks for the reminder, I should switch that now) | 08:00 |
| fabbione | BenC: ppc is knows.. try to build with linux32 and you will get it too | 08:00 |
| fabbione | BenC: i think i did put you in the email loop with Benh and Paulus | 08:01 |
| BenC | stupid linux32 :P | 08:01 |
| fabbione | but sparc.. is weird | 08:01 |
| BenC | probably need something better than defconfig | 08:01 |
| fabbione | BenC: my local workaround: cp ppc64_defconf ppc_defconf | 08:01 |
| infinity | And that doesn't mess up ppc32 kernels? | 08:01 |
| BenC | sparc looks like a sparc32 problem | 08:02 |
| fabbione | no | 08:02 |
| fabbione | we still use linux32 on sparc, don't we? | 08:02 |
| infinity | BenC: yeah, we use linux32 on sparc as well. | 08:02 |
| infinity | A lot of other software in the archive breaks if we don't. | 08:02 |
| infinity | Well, s/breaks/builds for sparc64/ | 08:03 |
| BenC | something isn't right there | 08:03 |
| BenC | it looks like it is doing a ARCH=sparc config | 08:03 |
| BenC | I should build with linux32 on sparc and ppc I guess | 08:04 |
| infinity | Did we lose workarounds for this in kernel-package at some point? | 08:04 |
| infinity | No, wait, kernel-package hasn't changed since edgy. :) | 08:04 |
| infinity | This is all kernel. | 08:04 |
| BenC | considering it builds fine for me fabbione, I still blame the chroot ;) | 08:05 |
| BenC | both problems seem related to linux32, so I'll work on that over the weekend | 08:05 |
| fabbione | BenC: i didn't use linux32 on sparc | 08:05 |
| fabbione | and i can reproduce the ppc one here | 08:05 |
| BenC | neither did I | 08:06 |
| fabbione | i can test it in a few minutes. I just need to finish the ALOM upgrade | 08:06 |
| infinity | BenC: Thpt. Blame the chroots or buildds all you want. :) | 08:07 |
| infinity | BenC: Anything that relies on uname output is broken, period. It's just easier to fix one thing (the kernel build) than potentially dozens of other broken things. | 08:07 |
| BenC | infinity: Nah, I know the kernel build needs fixing, I just hate that we still have this bullshit problem | 08:08 |
| infinity | This reminds me that I really should be using linux32 on i386 buildds too... | 08:09 |
| infinity | Not that we need it now (we don't), but I'm sure a day will come when elmo will hand me an X86_64 box as an i386 buildd. | 08:10 |
| infinity | Anyhow, amd64 finished, and i386 and ia64 are still going strong, so I suspect this linux32 issue is the only problem you've got, which isn't so terrible. | 08:14 |
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| infinity | BenC: Can you make a good argument for why linux32 should be used for everything *but* the kernel? I could special-case it in the script that calls sbuild. | 08:30 |
| infinity | (I'd prefer not to, but it's trivial) | 08:31 |
| BenC | infinity: because the kernel should be able to decide for itself, because it's smart enought to? :) | 08:31 |
| BenC | besides, we _really_ do want to build for sparc64, for example | 08:31 |
| BenC | unlike the rest of the packages | 08:31 |
| infinity | That's an argument for not caring if it's linux32 or linux64. :P | 08:32 |
| infinity | The kernel should build for what you told it to, not care about uname. | 08:32 |
| fabbione | Missing /usr/src/sparc/ubuntu-2.6/debian/abi/2.6.19-1.1/abiname file. | 08:40 |
| fabbione | make: *** [clean] Error 1 | 08:40 |
| fabbione | bah | 08:40 |
| fabbione | BenC: yeah linux32 makes the mess | 08:41 |
| fabbione | exec make -f /usr/share/kernel-package/ruleset/minimal.mk debian APPEND_TO_VERSION=-2-sparc64 KPKG_SUBARCH=sparc64 KPKG_STEM=linux | 08:42 |
| fabbione | strange is that we tell to look for sparc64 | 08:42 |
| BenC | fabbione: I have a commit left for current git | 08:59 |
| fabbione | sure.. | 08:59 |
| fabbione | i know about the abi.. that doesn't bother me :) | 09:00 |
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| mhb_ | hello all, sorry to bother you, I just wanted to ask you if someone couldn't at least comment on bug 63134, please... it looks quite problematic to me, thank you for anything. | 11:14 |
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