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Everyone is pretty upset with that so called feature === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:25] people, check out dolphin as a file manager at some point [04:26] Hobbsee: That must be in Edgy only ? [04:27] yeah [04:27] who uses dapper anyway? :P [04:28] Hah. I'm not going to Edgy on this box(my main box) until things settle down a bit [04:28] they're settled [04:29] things wont be added, except minor updates, and security fixes [04:29] grabbing breakfast [04:29] Yeah, just too many problems right now that I don't want to deal with, nor really have the time to break my main system === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.228.248] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.108.152] has joined #kubuntu-devel === orkid__ [n=orkid__@bas1-barrie18-1242380155.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.117.35] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121gsn.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === J-a-r [n=netstar@c83-252-124-128.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.117.35] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.117.35] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde_ [n=lnxkde@206.248.117.35] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde_ [n=lnxkde@206.248.117.35] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121gsn.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.117.35] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:55] hi [07:56] wew I can find the packages list on edgy? [07:56] packages.ubuntu.com === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.117.35] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:57] time to get a head start on these Feisty merges [07:58] i thought they hadnt finished building the toolchain yet [07:58] oh I'm not uploading to upload.ubuntu.com [07:58] hah [07:58] I'm just merging and bzr pushing [07:58] were I can find the packages list on edgy? [07:58] oops :P [07:59] [17:56] wew I can find the packages list on edgy? [07:59] [17:56] packages.ubuntu.com [07:59] hey, where can I find the package list for Edgy? ;) === Hobbsee kicks crimsun [07:59] crimsun: :p [07:59] crimsun: for you, it's packages.debian.net [08:00] crimsun: I want to make a nice KDE with the same packages kubuntu edgy has on the install disk for the VLOS project :) [08:01] but...but...there's no pony?! [08:01] crimsun: indeed. there's no pony [08:02] looks like I wil l have to install It [08:02] :( [08:03] I need a list of the default ppackages on the CD [08:03] apt-get source kubuntu-meta === mhb_ [n=martin@162.43.broadband7.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:03] then read the kubuntu-desktop seed [08:03] crimsun: germinate or whatever will tell you that, surely? [08:03] morning [08:04] hey mhb_ [08:04] crimsun: I dont have kubuntu installed :( === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.108.152] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:04] hi Jucato [08:04] lovely crimsun :D can you make a odt with that list for me ;)?? [08:05] hi Hobbsee! :) [08:05] lnxkde: so? http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/source/kubuntu-meta [08:05] ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [08:05] not that Hobbsee didn't mention that, oh, 9 minutes ago [08:05] no, not at all [08:06] people seem to want to be absolutely spoonfed today, when talking about creating their own distros [08:06] tehe [08:06] Hobbsee: VLOS is not my distro [08:06] Hobbsee: www.vidalinux.com [08:06] is a old distro the first gentoo based one [08:06] i mean, a) why? and b) if you're going to go to the bother of that, and fail, why not just fail earlier rather than later, and use that extra time to work on something you will succeed at? [08:06] but KDE on it sucks [08:07] lnxkde: i'm also referrign to the other guy in -motu a while ago [08:07] Hobbsee: I just want to help the distro because Is from my home nation :) [08:07] is the only distro from Puerto Rico [08:07] lnxkde: fair enough [08:07] and it is nice :) but It need KDE help badly [08:08] hehe and since I have been using kubuntu for sometime [08:08] I think kubuntu is the best role model to copy [08:08] lnxkde: better improve (K)Ubuntu so that it will be as translated as the national distro [08:08] I love kubuntu package selection :) [08:09] mhb_: that's the more sensible option, yes [08:09] mhb_: or do as the ichutux people do - have a metapackage of the stuff that they want in universe, and update that. [08:10] mhb_: i replied to your testing feisty stuff, btw [08:10] Huahua: I've seen that, thanks [08:10] Huahua: sorry .o) for Hobbsee [08:10] Hobbsee: I've seen that, thanks [08:10] heh [08:11] :) [08:11] I love kubuntu. [08:11] but I love Gentoo too [08:11] :) [08:12] I have a Desktop with Vlos64/Vlos32 going to install in my laptop Kubuntu [08:12] "Thou shalt have no other gods besides me" [08:12] but I dont know. [08:12] Jucato: very funy [08:12] just kidding :) [08:12] Hobbsee: I agree with you, there's no need to test anything yet (and won't be for quite some time), I just want to inform Testers that we could help out with this [08:12] right. my sound is really screwed. it's not just my speakers [08:12] mhb_: there's unmet deps, etc [08:13] but yeah, not that much to test yet, i dont think [08:14] Hobbsee: so kubuntu does not install the whole kdebase? [08:14] I didnt know that [08:14] lnxkde: nope [08:15] Hobbsee: I want to use this "ceasefire" - devel phase - to organize testers a bit, decide what we should work on for Feisty etc. [08:15] mhb_: sounds good to me [08:16] mhb_ :D [08:16] thankx guys [08:17] I always hang out here and in kubuntu :) [08:17] lnxkde: if you look into the depends of the kubuntu-desktop metapackage, you'll see which parts of KDE is installed [08:17] Jucato: yes [08:17] that is why I asked [08:17] ;) [08:17] :) [08:18] Jucato: I started doing that in my KDE VLOS desktop but resulted ina big mess beause I didnt know what packages to install to make it a nice desktop [08:18] but with this help I will get it working in no time [08:18] emerge app app app app app app -b and done :) [08:19] I install kde-core. the most basic KDE you can ever have. of course I needed to install a few more stuff to really get it going. [08:19] kdebase is too basic for me, btw :P [08:19] Jucato: I always add a lot of apps [08:19] but I never install the whole KDE [08:19] is too bloated [08:20] hehe the current KDE of vlos has the whole KDE installed [08:20] koversation is not there but kvirc [08:20] whoa... "kde" installs *everything*.... [08:20] indeed [08:20] and a lot of awfull apps that I personally hate [08:21] lnxkde: I guess it's because konvi isn't part of the main KDE. Like Amarok, it's an extragear app [08:21] kaffeine amarok (xine) kwrite koffice kopete konqueror :) [08:21] that are my main apps :) [08:21] ) [08:22] and k3b sure [08:22] :) [08:22] oh I forgot the eyes... ":)" [08:23] eyes is game? [08:23] poor blind smiley.... [08:23] ohh now [08:23] hehe [08:23] heheh === sredna [n=anders@kde/developer/alund] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:24] Hi [08:24] guys whant to sse my desktop? [08:24] hi sredna :) [08:24] Where can I find instructions on how to install kde4 on edgy? Apt gives up due to dependency problems [08:24] sredna: there wasnt info on kubuntu.org about that? === Jucato takes note that sredna is a developer [08:25] Hobbsee: Nothing I can find [08:25] sredna: the link I gave? [08:25] http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php ? [08:26] that's what i was thinking of [08:26] http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/825/lnxkdekdepd2.png [08:26] crimsun: As I said, apt gives in [08:27] sredna: that's not the latest kde 4 - that was only the crash release [08:27] that's not the latest svn [08:27] s/crash/krash [08:27] Hobbsee: I just try to install the packages that are in the default sources [08:28] Hobbsee: The announcement claimed that kubuntu would be a good platform for kde4 development [08:28] Bu8t appearantly, there are some rivers to cross first [08:28] sredna: what "apt" messages? [08:29] crimsun: They are in danish, and too long for a irc channel [08:29] a pastebin's fine [08:29] I can't remember the URL of one [08:29] paste.ubuntu-nl.org [08:31] http://paste.debian.net/15759 [08:34] sredna: apt-cache policy python-qt4 [08:35] crimsun: The output makes no sense [08:35] But in the search listing, it is displayed as 'iB' [08:35] there seems to be a missing deb line, since there's no valid reference to "the qt4 kdecopy packages" [08:35] Whic could mean 'blocked'? [08:37] sredna: you'll want to ask Rid.dell about the Qt4 dependency issue [08:37] (minus full stop) [08:37] crimsun: I will [08:37] Sometime, for now I'll stop wasting my sunday [08:38] sredna: yeah. enjoy your sunday. only comes once a week :) [08:49] In gentoo there was something like package.provides, that allowed to solve such issues [08:50] It appears that kubuntu installed some packages that depends on the standard qt4, which needs to be replaced with the kdecopy version [08:50] So it's just plain old package manager brokenness [08:51] So much for the almighty apt === sredna [n=anders@kde/developer/alund] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [08:51] O_O [08:52] he wasn't looking for anything but a fight [08:52] next time I won't even waste my time [08:53] for the record, it's not the package manager's fault the deb source isn't known [08:55] sredna == Anders Lund (I think...) [08:56] he should have talked to Riddel... :( === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:52] does anyone ever get konq behaving like this: http://stuff.duffus.org/tmp/ss2.png ? it happens a lot to me [09:53] basically it shows part of another desktop [09:54] konq is on desktop 4 and the artifact at the bottom is from desktop 1 [09:55] its as if its not redrawing === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-032.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:01] mhb_, rockin job on the email, i think thats gonna help alot come next release cycle ( given its a bit early to start now as hobbsee said but once the merges are done , or close to being done it will rock ) [11:02] moin imbrandon! :) [11:03] imbrandon: thanks. :o) Yes, I agree with you and Hobbsee, it's too early now but I want to get the organization part done before the actual testing part [11:04] mhb_: definitely a great idea. I'm willing to use the 5GB partition I have setup for FAT32 just for testing next time :) [11:08] mhb_, yup definately [11:08] Jucato: good [11:08] mhb_, the more we have in #kubunut-testers the better [11:08] I have no need for FAT32 anyway lol [11:08] ( at the right times of course hehe ) [11:09] yeah... that's why I'm not going there yet lol :) [11:09] j/k === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.108.152] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@65-86-255-2.client.dsl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121gsn.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:08] moin! [12:09] hey danimo [12:10] heya Hobbsee === Lure_ is now known as Lure [12:10] oh god I LOVE slashdot :) [12:11] hahaha [12:11] yeah [12:11] you'll notice that most of the comments say that they had a couple, or no problems === danimo found an odd behaviour in "ping" [12:11] clearly people installing crack arent posting on slashdot :P [12:11] it tries to resolve the IP (!) for each ping, but only if you pass it a hostname that needs to be resolved [12:12] can somebody confirm with strace? === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato stares at 300 comments in /. ... [12:13] what's up with /. ? [12:13] mhb_: the usual stuff, really [12:14] nothing to see there, move along [12:14] what's not to love about it? heheh :) [12:14] the same stuff I've been reading all over the net [12:15] well, besides the already known issues in upgrading... :) [12:15] they've installed crack, what do they expect [12:15] anyway, this rant is already going on in #ubuntu-motu :P [12:16] which I dare not join. lol :) [12:16] Hobbsee: any new meaning of "crack" ? [12:16] you go listen to rants... I go read them in /. [12:17] danimo: crack as in, the stuff from the crack pipe. [12:17] ie, smoking crack [12:17] Jucato: feel free to join [12:17] Hobbsee: ehehe. I think /. is enough for me tonight... [12:17] anymore and my poor wittle head might explode [12:18] Hobbsee: ok, so no new meaning [12:18] danimo: correct [12:18] Jucato: hehe. the /. stuff says it mostly worked, when i read it [12:19] ah [12:19] which /. article? the one about upgrading is a nightmare, or the one about Edgy being released (300+ comments)? [12:20] upgrading being a nightmare [12:20] ah :) [12:20] the current discussion is about beryl by default [12:20] beryl by default would never work [12:21] oh... not interested then :P (at least not yet) [12:21] even novell don't have compiz enabled by default, and their checkout for SLED is way more stable; they just have an easy option to enable it [12:21] apokryphos: mark wants it. [12:21] O_O [12:21] Hobbsee: where was it mentioned? [12:21] sabdfl has spoken! [12:21] apokryphos: the spec [12:21] for Feisty? [12:22] he likes pushing things to the bleeding edge [12:22] yes well [12:22] that's why there was evil cups in dapper, right? ;-) [12:22] apokryphos: even if you cant print, that doesnt mean that your X dies. [12:22] apokryphos: if you're dropped to a shell...well, for most people, that's kind of critical [12:23] sure [12:23] wow, 150GB synced in so far [12:23] didn't know that a full ubuntu mirror would take so long to sync [12:24] it does... :P [12:24] it's been three days now [12:24] but I hope it'll be better after the initial sync [12:26] Hobbsee: ohh, and he wants beryl as well, not compiz [12:26] apokryphos: exactly [12:27] apokryphos: and the number of complaints over beryl taking up all resources, and making things crash..... [12:27] Hobbsee: beryl is nice with its new effects, but it's certainly slower (perhaps because of the cheap patches Reveman talks about), way more unstable, and I'm not convinced that those could really be completely changed [12:28] apokryphos: i think they're going to have fun in UDS, dont you think? [12:28] apokryphos: that being said, stevenk is going to install some of the packages, and i'll have a look at his [12:28] Hobbsee: also, having the drivers enabled by default.... well, that's going to cause problems, isn't it? [12:28] seeing as i'm not convinced that it would take up all my resources, and set my machine on fire [12:28] the whole argument with the kernel hackers.. [12:28] apokryphos: the entire thing would cause problems. i would expect so [12:29] problems as in controversy, yeah [12:29] ah right [12:34] Hobbsee: maybe if someone got a beryl checkout *now*, and worked on it until feisty release there might be something special ;-) [12:34] long process of stabilisation ;-) [12:34] apokryphos: hehe, yeah, maybe [12:34] apokryphos: how stable is compiz? [12:34] !compiz [12:34] Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems [12:34] it's not as if it requires any more features at the time [12:35] Hobbsee: depends on your checkout. On SLED, for example, it works perfectly. I had it running perfectly (i.e. never crashing) on opensuse for a couple of months, at least. [12:35] apokryphos: and the ubuntu repos versoin? [12:35] when I tried I didn't get it working, I had to use compiz-quinnstorm [12:35] ah [12:36] which, like beryl but to a lesser degree, more features -> more unstable [12:36] true [12:37] the slowdown in speed is probably more worrying, though; because it seems to me that it's the way all their code is done that's causing it (which is why Reveman wasn't happy) [12:37] whereas stability bugs are fixable, presumable [12:37] *presumably [12:38] Hobbsee: also unfortunately, with this fork, looks like it's going to be suse+compiz vs. ubuntu+beryl [12:38] that worries me - we probably want speed over bling. i do, anyway [12:38] ouch [12:46] sredna had a good point, you can't have libqt4-core-kdecopy and python-qt4 installed at the same time. :| === Hobbsee [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sredna [n=anders@kde/developer/alund] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:18] Hi [01:18] Anyone around who can explain how to install kde4 on kubuntu edgy? [01:21] hi sredna, did you install the stuff that comes under 'kde4'? [01:22] !find kde4 [01:22] Found: kde4base, kde4base-data, kde4base-dev, kde4libs, kde4libs-data [01:23] apokryphos: My attempt is to install kde4base-dev, which I reckoned would install everything else, and that is what apt want to do. The problem is that there are some apps in kubuntu-desktop that depends on vanilla qt4 packages, which are replaced with the kdecopy versions when kde4 is installed [01:24] sredna: so kubuntu-desktop is removed? That in itself shouldn't be a problem [01:24] apokryphos: It seems that either apt-get isn't so fantastic, or there is some errors in the package definitions [01:24] apokryphos: I have no idea what kubuntudesktop contains, apart from sppedcrunch, which is something that I absolutely does not use [01:24] The other conflict is with python-qt4 [01:25] sredna: kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage for getting you a stock kubuntu; it doesn't contain data, just depends upon other things to drag them in [01:25] apokryphos: And how do I see exactly what it contains? [01:26] sredna: it doesn't contain anything, it just works by depending on other packages, so when you install it, it drags in a stock kubuntu as a consequence [01:27] apokryphos: And even if it helps solving the practical problem for me right now, it doesn't really help. What if I really wanted speedcrunch? [01:27] sredna: could you pastebin the output if when you're installing that kdebase4-dev package? [01:27] s/if when/when/ [01:28] http://paste.debian.net/15759 [01:28] Oh, and apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop does nothing :\ [01:29] the problem isn't kubuntu-desktop, I think it's the python renaming in edgy. Hm, odd [01:29] So this package installs some stuff. I have to read inside the package to see what [01:29] imbrandon: any ideas? [01:30] or Hobbsee 8) [01:31] Hm, removing speedcrunch actually changed the situation [01:31] Now it just uninstalls python-qt4 [01:31] what is it replaced with? [01:32] Not really a problem for me, though python is used by some kde packages [01:33] But after uninstalling kubuntu-desktop, it looks like apt want to uninstall eg. Xserver-xorg along with some other kinda nice stuff for a deskttop... [01:33] are you using aptitude? [01:33] Yes [01:34] Eh, no actually, right now I use apt-get [01:34] I have a hard time getting the difference, apart from a slightly different syntax ;) [01:34] so which exact command wants to remove xorg etc? [01:35] Well, apt-get just tells me that they are now unneeded [01:35] I object to that! [01:35] the difference is that since aptitude tries to remove 'unused' dependencies, when k-d is removed it may well want to remove the things that are solely in because of their dependency on k-d [01:35] curious [01:36] It seems that I get nothing in return for python-qt4 === sredna is happy that he isn't a linux newbie [01:37] .. and I'm no python fanatic :p [01:38] I think it would be smart if packages depending on qt4 had a way to feel safe with the kdecopy version [01:42] it would. [01:45] the kdecopy needs a Provies: libqt4-packages line. [01:45] Provides, that is. [01:47] if they are similar enought to actually do that.. [01:50] jings, it's sredna! [01:51] ooh just the man sredna was looking for :) [01:51] Hi Riddell :) [01:52] I have now the kde4 packages installed, so that I can develop something [01:53] My first goal is to get the kate session menu working on kde4 [01:53] those packages are several weeks old, but I presume still useful for kde 4 application development [01:54] Hm, is there something better I can do? Compile? [01:54] Maybe I can use the qt packages, and compile kdelibs/kdebase [01:54] yeah, install the final qt 4.2 and compile kdelibs, kdepimlibs and kdebase yourself [01:54] Ok, sometime soon [01:55] Is there a problem with the kdecopy version? [01:55] only that it's some weeks old [01:55] it'll probably be fine, but in some places things may have changed in trunk [01:56] That doesn't worry me a lot [01:56] so I'd say go with kdecopy and work with that unless you find something doesn't work with it [01:56] As long as it will work with trunk kdelibs, when I find time to compile [01:56] Yea, will do. Thank you :) [01:57] sredna: what are you thinking of working on? [01:58] Riddell: Well, I should get started working a bit on kate. For now, I will port my katesessionmenu, which can then go into 3.5.6 as well [01:59] I also need to learn the basics of using the new build system [02:05] I get more into kate all the time [02:11] :-) [02:13] yay, kate :) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-77-156.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:29] Hi all === luc_ [n=luc@230-82-244-84.zapcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:33] hey freeflying === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-77-156.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:34] Hobbsee: hi, I'm preparing a presentation for edgy, we will have a party next week, and Mark will be there :) === oslo [n=oslo@82.225.102.119] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:35] freeflying: yay :) [02:35] freeflying: cool, where's that? [02:36] Riddell: Beijing [02:36] oooh Mr. Shuttleworth will be here in the Philippines after that [02:37] no titles on this channel please! [02:37] oh sorry... === Jucato didn't know... really sorry... === Riddell hugs Jucato [02:37] :) [02:38] Riddell: why no titles? [02:38] hehe I thought I was going to get eaten :) === GNUro [n=Gnu@host238-62-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:38] Hi [02:38] ciao [02:38] s/Riddell/Mr Riddell/ :P [02:39] O_o ciao! =) === Riddell bops Hobbsee with a copy of Quaker Faith and Practice [02:39] Riddell: parli italiano? :) [02:39] o_O [02:39] with a copy of what? [02:39] GNUro: I can say "ciao", does that count? [02:39] Riddell: do you speak italian? :) [02:39] lolg [02:39] -g [02:39] oh oh, my sister in law is half italian, does that count? === freeflying_ [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:40] :) [02:41] HobbseHobbsee: Riddell do you have any video for ubuntu? [02:42] freeflying: nope [02:42] Hobbsee: missed your question there, I object to titles because they prompote inequality [02:42] Riddell: it does if you speak to her often [02:42] Riddell: ahh. fair enough [02:43] Riddell: then again, people are unequal anyway [02:43] so that cant really be helped [02:43] I try to treat everyone equally [02:43] true [02:44] Hobbsee treats everyone equally with her long pointy stick of doom :) [02:44] hehe :) [02:45] Riddell: how about the scim-qtimm? [02:45] freeflying_: do you know exactly what needs to be done? [02:46] Jucato: last i knew, Riddell wasnt a cannibal [02:46] Riddell: I have remove doko's patch, seems everything works well, except the 3rd part qt stuffs like skype [02:47] Hobbsee: well, I found that out today :) [02:47] heh === Hobbsee is, though [02:47] but I have no amd64 machine for test [02:47] freeflying_: so what's broken at the moment? === Hobbsee spears Jucato with her Long Pointy Stick Of DOOM!!! (tm) and eats him [02:47] nooooh!!! [02:47] I'm not edible enough :P [02:47] haha [02:48] sure? [02:49] yes. you will definitely have stomach problems tonight :) [02:49] Riddell: bugs reproted they can not input in OOo-kde with scim-qtimm, so doko patched it, but we can not reproduce that bugs [02:50] Jucato: heh. i'll take that risk :P === Jucato takes of the "Eat me" sign he's been wearing all day :D [02:50] haha [02:51] freeflying_: and the patch is to scim-qtimm? [02:51] freeflying_: do you know the filename of the patch? [02:52] Riddell: it make scim-qtimm link qt, so 3rd part qt stuffs can not work with scim-qtimm [02:52] Riddell: btw, kde bug 136294 is fixed :) [02:52] KDE bug 136294 in general "Amarok dialog doesn't honor "No" and still runs script" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136294 [02:53] Jucato: in 1.4.4? [02:53] Hobbsee: well committed. but probably not in 1.4.4 [02:53] ah === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-77-156.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:54] I thought 1.4.4 was released a few days back, but was withdrawn? === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-77-156.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:54] it was [02:54] it should be properly released today [02:54] seems to be working pretty well, too [02:55] ah then it couldn't have made it to 1.4.4. :) [02:55] (unless they were that fast...) [02:56]