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intelikeyarelisea depends on the client  but yes and or /newserver blah12:12
areliseai forget it, schit, "/server irc.pulsa2.com"12:12
areliseai want to connect to pulsar2 server,12:12
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areliseanot in ubuntu,12:13
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Dr_willishuh12:13
intelikeythis is not /server ubuntu this is server freenode.net12:13
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areliseaajam, excuseme, it's my first time12:14
Dr_willis!irc12:14
ubotuirc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines12:14
Hamal_DragonPlease, help. I have a problem. I updated to edgy and no i cant boot. It show a messages telling that theres no /sbin/init. I have mounted the partition and indeed theres no init on sbin, and i dont know what to do12:15
heinkel_111does anyone know if Kwallet is dropped from Edgy?12:15
heinkel_111mine does not appear when i access my regular websites12:15
Dr_willisheinkel_111,  hmm.. it is missing!12:15
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heinkel_111:(12:15
heinkel_111that is a major bummer12:15
intelikeyframbuffering is off center  i could use the monitor adj. to fix this but that would mean adjusting for each screen/window mechenism,  how can i adjust the frambuffer from linux ?12:15
Dr_williswalletmanager12:15
Dr_willisERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.12:15
heinkel_111it was one of my most helpful applications12:15
Dr_willishmmm12:15
Dr_willisDOh - there it is...12:16
Section31Where do I alter the suspend/hibernation settings on Kubuntu?12:16
heinkel_111whatabout that errormsg? was that for wallet?12:16
Dr_willisits in there heinkel_11112:16
Dr_willisthat was my ssh session i put the command in by mistake. :P12:16
Dr_willisits fun when ya get 2 kwallets going in the systemtray12:16
heinkel_111Dr_willis: how about passing 1 to me, I have none... :P12:17
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Dr_willisheinkel_111,  eelskin kwallets on sale!12:17
Dr_willis:)12:17
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_JPhow do i make "Tools->HTML Settings->Java" retain it's check state in Konqueror? i've tried saving view the profile but the check state always gets reseted after restarting konqueror12:17
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Tim_I have a problem.12:18
Dr_willisi'll toss in a free 'perpetual motion machine' if you buy 412:18
areliseahow can i view the server list?12:18
areliseahere, in kubuntu irc12:18
Dr_willisarelisea,  it depends on which IRC client you are using... most have menus/server items that have  a list of them.12:18
intelikeyserver list?12:18
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Dr_willisarelisea,  and theres 10000's of servers out there that are not on that list.12:19
areliseai don't understand this kubuntu irc,12:19
Dr_willisxchat has a 'network list'12:19
Tim_i run the live-cd, have 2gigs free ram, why can't i download a 30mb file to the desktop? thx12:19
areliseai want to connect to the server hispano, pulsar212:19
cobus_Dr_Willis he cant find VLC12:19
Dr_willisarelisea,  look in the menus of your irc client.12:20
Tim_"no free space"12:20
Dr_williscobus,  its in multiverse i think12:20
Dr_willis!info vlc12:20
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB12:20
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Dr_willisuniverse.. lol.. he needs the repo enabled.. or checked in the pacakte managers12:20
cobus_ok yes but i dont know where to enable that i might be a bit dumb12:20
areliseabut i don't remember now how can i do it, i know that in the top window, i can writte "/server .....12:20
Tim_Dr_willis any ideas?12:21
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intelikey!repos12:21
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:21
areliseabut, how? /server irc.freenode.net12:21
Dr_willisTim_,  some of the ram is used as cache, and as a drive space... how much ram ya got total?12:21
h3sp4wnintelikey: do you use xterm ?12:21
areliseaor how?12:21
Tim_2gig total12:21
Dr_willisarelisea,  type /server whatever.the.name.of.that.server   then... thats fairly standard12:22
areliseabut, how? /server irc-freenode.net?12:22
Dr_willisyou are ON freenode.net right now.12:22
intelikeyh3sp4wn console.   but yes i use xterm and rxvt both a little.12:22
areliseaokok, yes i understand that12:22
Tim_ 'system monitor' says 218mb Used so, 1,8 G is free?12:22
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h3sp4wnintelikey: do you know about how to change keysyms ?12:22
intelikeyh3sp4wn why what do you need ?12:22
areliseafor example, /server irc.hispano.irc-pulsa2.net?12:23
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h3sp4wnintelikey: (I know its something to do with .Xdefaults) alt + arrow generates ^[[1;3C - when I want it to generate ^[^[[C (I have got 7 bit input and alt sends escape on)12:24
intelikeyh3sp4wn a ~/.sessionrc file can be written to affect a lot of things in rxvt/xterm as well as general X options.12:24
Dr_willisarelisea,  if thats the name of the server then that should do it.. TRY it and see12:24
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areliseaok, i try12:24
areliseabut it's not work :(12:25
h3sp4wnintelikey: I know it can but I have no idea whatsoever how (the xterm manpage is quite cryptic) - but apparantly this problem is not existant on suse12:25
Tim_Dr_willis, 220MB user memory of 2000, why cant i save a small file?12:25
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Dr_willisTim_,  could be it has  the /home allocated to a smaller ram disk.12:26
Tim_Dr_willis, can i make it bigger?12:26
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Dr_willisTim_,  no idea..i save stuff to my hard drives when i use a live cd.12:26
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Dr_willisor usb drives12:27
Digital-PioneerHi. I'm looking to see if I have direct rendering enabled. I've got an Nvidia GeForce 2 (I think) for a vieo card.12:27
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intelikeyh3sp4wn yeah i agree on cryptology there.   have a look at man xsession   it helps a little   but as to a dirrect answer no i don't know exactly what to add there.  i have only written one xsessionrc and that was to change the fountface and colours.12:27
epyfroHi12:27
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Tim_Dr_willis,  i should be able to use all the Ram, right?12:28
jamesevening (well depends where you are) .. anyone know how to stop kmail from moving deleted mail into the local trash folder?12:28
Cilindradori just CTRL-ALT-BCLSPace'd my system12:28
Dr_willisTim_,  no idea.. ive not messed with the kubuntu live cd that much.12:28
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Dr_willisCilindrador,  :) dyd ya mean to?12:28
Cilindradorand now the resolution's gone to hell12:28
Digital-Pioneerjames: Sure. Stop using KMail. ;)12:28
Tim_Dr_willis, ok thx anyway.12:28
intelikeyh3sp4wn but i did notice that once you get your head wraped around the concept it is pretty streight forword thinking12:29
jamesDP> hmmm seems a lot faster than evolution :-)12:29
Dr_willisTim_,  may check the wiki/forums.. for live cd's i tend to use puppy linux, or dsl12:29
Cilindradorit was supposed to be 1280*800, but now im stuk with 800*60012:29
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Cilindradorany idea how to fix this12:29
Digital-Pioneerjames: I just use Gmail. Better than anything I've ever found locally.12:29
jdiwnabGmail > all12:29
jamesDP> yes gmail is great but my mail is on a linux server already12:30
Digital-Pioneerjdiwnab: HEAR HEAR!!!12:30
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Digital-Pioneerjames: You host your own e-mail server?12:30
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jamesDP> yep12:30
jamesI like ethernet speed access to it :-)12:31
Digital-Pioneerjames: Ahh, well, I use Gmail, so I can't help you. You might consider installing Gmail on your local system. I hear Google released the source publicly (or something)12:31
intelikeyh3sp4wn i.e. a section with #[rxvt]  as a header and things like RxvtKeymap: input=blah : blah         <== only an example.  like i said i havent actually done that part.12:31
jdiwnabgmail did that?!12:31
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h3sp4wnintelikey: The thing is the arrows keys themselves are mapped right (the mapping only goes wrong if its prefixed with meta which I have for alt)12:31
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Digital-Pioneerjdiwnab: I believe I heard that.12:32
jamesI think it was apis... yahoo released some mail code12:32
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jdiwnabO_O12:32
Digital-PioneerJust look it up.12:32
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rjbhi, something's fishy with cdr/dvd recording in edgy12:32
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rjbanyone else observed such problems?12:33
intelikeyh3sp4wn yes.   but  key  [>]  != [alt] +[>]    so you map for  [alt] +[>]   and leave  [>]  alone.12:33
Dr_willisrjb,  not really..  whats the deal?12:33
rjbever since my upgrade last week k3b only produces coasters12:33
rjbthe h/w is ok12:33
rjb(i reboot into windoze and can record fine)12:34
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_JP!info libqt4-dev12:35
ubotulibqt4-dev: Qt 4 development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.0-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 4087 kB, installed size 19996 kB12:35
jdiwnabHow long does it take in the alt install when it says "select and install packages" and "Please Wait"12:35
_JPnice to see edgy has a recent version :)12:35
rjbno errors are reported during recording, but the disks turn out unreadable12:35
Dr_willisrjb,  testing now.. burning a .iso file12:35
intelikeyreposting question;     frambuffering is off center  i could use the monitor adj. to fix this but that would mean adjusting for each screen/window mechenism,  how can i adjust the frambuffer from linux     somebody?12:35
rjb(i tried dvd-r, dvd+r and dvd-rw)12:35
Dr_willisdo cd's work rjb ?12:36
rjbah, haven't tried yet12:36
Dr_willisintelikey,  theres the fbset command12:36
rjbonly needed dvd's12:36
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intelikeyk ty12:36
Cilindradori just CTRL-ALT-BCLSPace'd my system, and now the resolution's gone to hell. it was supposed to be 1280*800, but now im stuk with 800*600... Ideas????12:36
Dr_willisintelikey,  but last i had to mess with that stuff - it was a pain.12:36
jdiwnabOK, nvm, it is about 5-8 minutes12:36
intelikey;/12:36
Dr_willisintelikey,  my imac was way to the left.. like 5 characters in the console..12:37
Dr_willisevery time i went to X and back.. the console would shift back12:37
intelikeyyeah i'm 4 to the right12:37
Dr_willisit may be a frequency issue..12:37
rjbDr_willis, i'm in windoze now cause i need to burn a few discs..12:37
Dr_willisunlexx you are on a LCD.12:37
intelikeycrt12:38
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h3sp4wnCilindrador: use the xfree86 modeline generator (I forget the url)12:38
rjbi was running out of blanks, and it's late night here12:38
Darkkishis FF 2.0 out for linux also?12:38
jdiwnabshould be12:39
cobus__willis how do i connect to a windowz box on a local network?12:39
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larson9999Darkkish: yeah.12:40
Cilindradorh3sp4wn  i was going to update the driver12:40
Darkkishanyone have the repository for it?12:40
Dr_williscobus_,  depends on how you define 'connect' :)12:40
Cilindradorusing the proprietary one from ati12:40
Dr_williscobus_,  samba lets you use the windows 'shares' system..  ssh and 'winscp' let you get files back and forth...12:40
cobus__i would like to access my shared files on that machine12:40
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intelikeycobus___ samba12:41
Dr_williskde has the samba browser tools to browse the windows shares.12:41
larson9999man, another new wine already?  those guys are nuts12:41
Dr_willis'remote places' -> samba shares12:41
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cobus__thank you!!!!12:41
h3sp4wnCilindrador: If you put in a modeline you can force it to run at whatever resolution you want12:42
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cobus__I love Linux12:42
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Cilindradorhm, but before i had the correct resolution set, and it was obviously availlable from the config screen12:42
Cilindradorhow come its now missing12:42
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intelikeywhat have you changed ?12:43
intelikeyvidio drivers ?12:43
Cilindradorno12:43
h3sp4wn*shrug* - I know with a modeline it always works right12:43
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rjbreboot, bbl12:43
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Cilindradori installed xubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, fluxbox12:43
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Cilindradorand then restarted the x server12:44
Rajah3000What could be wrong If no packages will be found(regardless of what they are!) on; 'sudo apt-get install'12:44
intelikeywhy did you demolish x with the three-key-killer ?12:44
ZweideutigKUBUNTU IS FOR WANKERS12:44
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ZweideutigSorry.12:45
larson9999wankers are people too12:45
Dr_willissonme of my best friends are wankers12:45
Dr_willis:)12:45
LynoureUnlike trolls12:45
Dr_willismany of the people i meet in here are wankers..12:45
larson9999hmmm, someone hates kubuntu and has nothing better to do than pop into a kubuntu chat room and call us wankers?12:45
Cilindradorbetter a wanker than a queer12:46
yacoobTo each his own porn :D12:46
yacoobperhaps he gets high going around, insulting people?12:46
yacoob(wait a minute... whole Internet looks like this :D)12:46
larson9999i think he's looking for wankers12:46
intelikeyCilindrador try rebuilding your xorg.conf    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:46
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Cilindradorok ill be trying that12:46
Cilindradorbrb12:46
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ZweideutigSorry... I act impulsively.12:47
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ubuntu_hi12:47
Tim_Hello12:47
Rajah3000Hello, anybody in here specialize in terminal problems?12:48
intelikeyRajah3000 define it and we'll see.12:49
Rajah3000Ok, What could be wrong If no packages will be found(regardless of what they are!) on; 'sudo apt-get install'12:49
Rajah3000is this typical, or am I just that deadly to Linux?12:50
bomberare your repositories set?12:50
Rajah3000Idk12:50
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Rajah3000How would I check?12:50
h3sp4wnRajah3000: grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list12:51
bomberthe essiest way is to run adept and then use the menu to manage repositories and then look and see if any are disabled12:51
Rajah3000root@Dellubuntu:~#  grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list12:52
Rajah3000deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted12:52
Rajah3000deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted12:52
Rajah3000deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted12:52
Rajah3000deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted12:52
Rajah3000deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted12:52
intelikeyRajah3000  1. your sources.list needs fixing    2. you need to do an sudo apt-get update    3. your firewall is blocking it (not iptables by default)    4.  something else.     we suspect 1  or possably 212:52
Rajah3000deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted12:52
Rajah3000root@Dellubuntu:~#12:52
bomberyou want to enable all of them and disable the cdrom ones12:52
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Rajah3000that is what I got anyway?12:52
Cilindradorfuck12:52
intelikeyRajah3000 try option 2   ^12:52
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Rajah3000ok12:53
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jdiwnab!ndiswrapper12:53
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:53
LjL!language | Cilindrador12:53
ubotuCilindrador: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:53
Cilindradori don't understand 75% of what is written on  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:53
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Cilindradordamn it12:53
Cilindradormaybe ill take the easy way out and reinstall12:53
Cilindradorand reboot12:53
jshawtsk. konversation so open this window by default :12:53
Cilindradorfor every big chhange in thesystem i do12:54
intelikeyif that's the easy way.  gopher it12:54
Cilindradorthe hell with this12:54
Cilindradorim going to bed12:54
Cilindradortks anyway ppl12:54
jshaw~12:54
Rajah3000Ok, is that all I have to do is option 2 intelikey12:55
Dr_willisrjb,  burnt several .iso cd's just fine.. just now12:55
intelikeyit should now find anything in main.12:55
Rajah3000ok12:55
intelikeyRajah3000 if you want the other common repos  add  " universe multiverse "    to the end of each of the four lines you posted /etc/apt/sources.list   and do step two again.12:56
intelikey!repos | Rajah300012:57
ubotuRajah3000: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:57
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Rajah3000ok, I don't know exactly what your saying, but...oh12:57
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intelikeyi'm saying simply edit the file     sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list              and make "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted"    say  "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse "    save it and update    that will enable the universe and multiverse repos for you.12:59
intelikey@ Rajah3000 ^12:59
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intelikeyit's as simple as explaining how to find a newly installed command (package) to a windows expert.   :)01:01
andrew_can someone explain to me what it means by KDesktop crashed?01:02
Darkkishok i can't get firefox to update01:02
Darkkishhow do i install manually?01:02
Tim_va?01:02
Rajah3000well I'm reading the webpage, phone call..brb01:02
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andrew_ok that and can someone explain to me what signal 6 is?01:03
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andrew_can anyone help me?01:03
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intelikey***"i installed wget in my new linux installation but it didn't put an icon on my desktop !  what do i do?"***   :)01:04
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intelikeyKDesktop crashed means ah   "KDesktop crashed"01:04
andrew_....01:04
andrew_i mean what will that cause?01:05
intelikeyis that all the error you got ?01:05
rjbre01:05
andrew_it said KDesktop crashed and caused signal 601:05
jdiwnabI'm having difficulty installing the NDISwrapper in edgy01:05
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intelikeysignal 6 is a terminate signal   iirc01:05
jdiwnabI downloaded the most recient source, but it won't compile01:05
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andrew_oo ok soooo what can i do about KDesktop crashing?01:05
rjbjdiwnab: what's the error?01:06
andrew_that and what will be te effect of it?01:06
NameNomadI can't figure out where the manual for updating my nvidia driver is01:06
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jdiwnabinternal copiler error: Segmentation fault01:06
rjbooops01:06
cvasilakhi kubudians, any way to disable fscheck on a raiserfs at bootime, yes its dangerous but it will speed up things a little(i have multiple partions)01:06
intelikeyfind the error that caused it.   look in ~/.xsession-errors   or something like that01:06
NameNomad...wait, didn't check the nvidia website, gah, silly me01:06
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intelikeyandrew_ .blah means hiden files.01:06
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rjbjdiwnab: folks usually say this might mean bad RAM..01:07
h3sp4wncvasilak: touch /pathtopartition/fastboot01:07
jdiwnabIt's not my freakn' ram b/c I already did a memtest to get edgy installed!01:07
andrew_soo can anyone tell me what exactly it means by KDesktop crashed other hten it crashed? like what exactly will be the effect of it? will I not beable to do certain things or what?01:07
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intelikeyjdiwnab you installed build-essential first ?01:08
Homerso KDE or GNOME01:08
Homer:(01:08
cvasilakh3sp4wn: thanks for the answer but i dont' quite understand what you mean :(01:08
rjbwell i just installed ndiswrapper on edgy the other day & it went fine01:08
jdiwnabI don't know... where woudl I look?01:08
rjb(the ndiswrapper in the distro was broken)01:08
intelikeyjdiwnab install build-essential  if you are going to "compile" anything.01:08
rjbjdiwnab: what version number?01:09
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h3sp4wncvasilak: see man shutdown and the bit regarding the -f flag01:09
jdiwnab1.27 for ndiswrapper01:09
intelikey!b-e | rjb01:09
uboturjb: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:09
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rjbjdiwnab: i did 1.23, with kernel 2.6.17-1001:10
rjband it works ok01:10
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rjbbut i'm on amd64 so ymmv01:11
cvasilakh3sp4wn: can't find doc for the -f flag(running on edgy, if it makes a different), the touch you said earlied is create a fastboot file on each partions(running raiserfs on all)01:12
jdiwnabsounds about right, and so am I (as far as the CPU)01:12
cdollinscan anyone tell me a resource for setting up vncserver01:12
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cdollinseverything that I've seen is for ubuntu01:12
h3sp4wncvasilak: Or switch to jfs or xfs (I switched to jfs for exactly that reason)01:12
rjbof course build-essential must be installed01:12
cdollinsI've used the vncviewer but now I want to host a session01:13
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rjbbut that doesn't seem to be the cause of the error u're getting01:13
NameNomad!update drivers01:13
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Dr_willisthe ubuntu spifics for vnc are not that specific. :P01:13
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Dr_willisinstall vnc4server,  run it.. vnc in...01:14
NameNomadhow do I update my graphics drivers?01:14
Dr_willis:)01:14
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intelikey!nv01:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:14
cdollinsvnc4server is not availbale for dapper or atleaast not in the default repositories01:14
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intelikeytty2 [greg@~]  q vnc4server01:15
intelikeyvnc4server - Virtual network computing server software01:15
intelikeyvncserver - Virtual network computing server software01:15
intelikey!info tty2 [greg@~]  q vnc4server01:15
intelikeyvnc4server - Virtual network computing server software01:15
intelikeyvncserver - Virtual network computing server software01:15
intelikeyooops .01:15
cdollinsok01:15
intelikey!info vnc4server01:15
ubotuvnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 986 kB, installed size 2332 kB01:16
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cdollinswell Im trying to avoid building tightvnc01:16
Dr_willisvnc4server seems to workbetter for me then the other vnc servers01:16
intelikeyuniverse01:16
cdollinsby adding by adept01:16
cdollinsbut when I search for vnc01:16
cdollinsNeither of the above package are listed01:16
intelikeyyou have universe enabled ?01:16
jdiwnabhow do I get that build-essential package without a network?01:16
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intelikeyjdiwnab sudo apt-get install build-essential01:17
mfb_it is on the CD since Hoary01:17
cdollinsyeah I tried enabling01:17
cdollinsa couple of disabled lines through adept01:17
intelikeyenable and apply01:17
jdiwnabk01:17
mfb_blah, don't use that thing01:17
cdollinslet me double checl01:17
mfb_sudo apt-cdrom add / sudo apt-get install build-essential01:18
mfb_as simple as this01:18
cdollinsyou got to be kidding that your in OS based on a windows manager and your dissing the GUI's01:18
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MarianoARGHi, when I try to remove (apt-get) some packages related to bluetooth, apt-get warns that kubuntu-desktop is going to be removed...?01:18
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h3sp4wnMarianoARG: doesn't really matter (unless you want to upgrade between versions)01:19
HymnToLifecdollins, what's the point in using the GUI01:19
intelikeymfb_ you are confusing two issues vnc4server is not on the cd it's in universe   and the build-essential is for someone else01:19
Darkkishdaaayyuuummm01:19
Darkkishlol01:19
h3sp4wnMarianoARG: all you save is a bit of diskspace01:19
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HymnToLifewhen you can do the same thig three times faster from the CLI ?01:19
cdollinsyeah so that apply line01:19
Darkkishit took me forever to figure out how to install firefox from the stupid tar >.>01:19
cdollinsmade want to double check01:19
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h3sp4wnMarianoARG: or use update-rc.d to remove the daemons from starting01:19
HymnToLifeoh, right :p01:20
MarianoARGh3sp4wn: you men upgrade with dist-upgrade?01:20
HymnToLifeit's pretty late here :p01:20
h3sp4wnMarianoARG: dist-upgrading between versions01:20
h3sp4wnMarianoARG: i.e edgy / edgy+101:20
willzzzso wtf is wrong with the new xgl mode shippped /w edgy!? it runs KDE slow as molasses + the fonts are screwed up01:20
HymnToLife@now paris01:20
UbugtuCurrent time in Europe/Paris: October 29 2006, 01:20:2701:20
willzzzor it's not liking my nVidia video card01:20
MarianoARGh3sp4wn: ok, thank you01:20
intelikeycdollins when you use adept to enable a repo (or disable one) you have to "apply changes"  for it to take affect.01:20
intelikeycdollins if you edit the sources.list file  you need to  apt-get update to apply the changes.01:21
cdollinswhats the point in KDE for that matter?01:21
cdollinsok01:21
h3sp4wncdollins: there is not one really a few k apps are good though01:21
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intelikeywhat is the point to X ?01:22
cdollinsits cool I'm just saying that I would figure that everyone usign a distro based on a windows manager would be all about the Apps01:22
cdollinsbut its cool if you guys are just as geeky as the rest of us that cool01:23
h3sp4wnlinks2 is almost to the point where I would not be really bothered about X01:23
Dr_willisheh01:23
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Darkkishcrap01:23
Darkkishits not even right01:23
Darkkish>_>01:23
intelikeycdollins good way to earn points in a help channel.01:23
Darkkishi can open firefox 2.0 in console but01:23
Dr_williswhatever happened to the qt/framebuffer stuff that was supposed to let us do all this stuff without X.01:23
Darkkishidk how else01:23
h3sp4wnDr_willis: my directfb is now working at 1280 x 1024 (accelerated framebuffer)01:24
OSUKid7hey, when any new user signs on for the first time, I get two KDE su windows... one asking to run the command kmix '-session' '10d8... and the other to run katapult '-session' '10d9...01:24
cdollinsright :?01:24
OSUKid7any idea how I can get rid of that?01:24
Darkkishhow do i make an sh open without being in the console?01:24
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cdollinsI guess I was having trouble using the app and then before I knew it people where telling me apt-get01:25
cdollinswhich is cool I just start wondering what the KDE Dist is worth if no one actually uses it or think its worth using01:25
rjbhmm any idea how to stop the new kde power manager from autostarting ?01:25
h3sp4wnDr_willis: have you tried it ? http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdenox/01:26
rjbi'd rather stick with klaptop atm, it seems to do more for me01:26
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cdollinsok so I'm confused01:27
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cdollinsI did enable the default universe lines01:28
cdollinsand I'm still not showing vncserver pkg's01:28
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shadowhywind_question all, i have a friend trying to update to edgy, and hes getting this message Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/adept/adept-manager_2.1.1ubuntu3_i386.deb  Connection timed out [IP: 146.137.96.15 80] 01:28
shadowhywind_any ideas?01:29
cdollinsactually I miss spoke01:29
Dr_willish3sp4wn,  looking now01:29
cdollinsthere they are I did a fetch updates with adept01:29
cdollinsnow have a rediculous number of vnc packages01:29
cdollinsthanks for the hint guys01:29
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Dr_willisyep dozens of variaits. and toools01:30
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Darkkishwhy does KsCD not work?01:32
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jmichaelxshadowhywind_: tell him to remove the 'us.' from the url of that repo and try again01:33
shadowhywind_he tried it again, and it worked, thanks anyway01:33
jmichaelxwould anyone have a suggestion as to how to get mplayer-plugin to work properly in firefox (in edgy)? i did uninstall totem, and re-installed mplayer, but it is still not functioning correctly01:33
jmichaelxgood01:33
RogueJediXSpeaking of firefox, will it still be in the next kubuntu release or will it be iceweasel?01:34
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jmichaelxi am trying to get the news videos on yahoo to work... had them working in dapper, but no luck so far in edgy01:34
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Darkkishis edgy out?01:34
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RogueJediXDarkkish: Yup, final build has been out for a few days now01:34
Darkkishis it worth upgrading yet?01:37
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RogueJediXDarkkish: I've had little problems myself, so I'd say yes01:39
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Brydenn33does anyone here have Point2Play? :)01:40
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RogueJediXjdiwnab: Care to be a little more specific?01:41
jdiwnabsudo atp-get add cdrom works, but sudo apt-get install Build-Essential says:01:41
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jdiwnab"E: Couldn't get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resources Temporarily unavailable)01:42
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h3sp4wnjdiwnab: /msg ubotu adept crash fix01:42
cellofellowI'v a programming question. C.01:43
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cellofellowI'm a newb. How do I put a string in a variable using scanf?01:43
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DarkkishOK01:43
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Darkkishi seriously need the most recent firefox repository -_-01:44
Darkkishi can't make firefox install!01:44
LjLcellofellow: scanf("%s", variable); , but this is quite offtopic for this channel...01:44
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jdiwnabthank you01:44
cellofellowLjL: I know it's off topic, I just didn't exactly know where to ask. I guess I've got my printf stuff wrong and not the scanf.01:45
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LjLcellofellow: try ##c perhaps, or just #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic01:45
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jdiwnabDo I have to restart after installing build essential01:46
jdiwnab?01:46
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LjLjdiwnab: no01:46
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LjLjdiwnab: the only situation i can think of when you need to reboot is when you want to start a new kernel01:46
RogueJediXThat's the beauty of Linux01:46
jdiwnabI'm still getting a "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault"01:47
LjLugh01:47
intelikeyjdiwnab no.  reboot is a M$ thing....     what error are you getting ?01:47
intelikeyjava ?01:47
jdiwnabI am trying to build ndiswrapper 1.27 on edgy, and when I say make, it says Segmentation fault01:47
jdiwnabWhich is why I asked01:48
intelikeyeeeeek01:48
RogueJediXWhoa. make segfaulting? *shudders*01:48
Darkkishspeaking of m$, they're making it so you can only uwse thier most expensive version of windows in VMWare01:48
jdiwnabhelp?01:48
jdiwnabyes, they are01:48
jayHello!  Just upgraded from Dapper to Edgy.  Only problem is WINE.  The only app that I need it for no longer runs (was perfect in Dapper).  Is there a way to downgrade WINE to the version that was in Dapper?01:48
Darkkishthats rediculous01:48
h3sp4wnjdiwnab: try using the no stack smasher CFLAG first01:48
jdiwnabh3sp4wn, what is that?01:49
Darkkishoh if wine doesn't work when i upgrade to edgy then forget it01:49
Darkkishi need my WoW01:49
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jdiwnabm$ also makes many new versions so that all the good features cost more than they use to01:49
Dasnipa`Darkkish, get a life.01:49
jayDarkkish:  I didn't say WINE doesn't work per se... just my particular app doesn't.  Might work for you.01:50
Darkkishoh01:50
Darkkishwell i have a custom build of wine01:50
h3sp4wnjdiwnab: -fno-stack-protector01:50
Darkkishbut i couldn't tell you how i did it, someone helped me with it and it was long and took forever >.>01:50
jdiwnabthat is one reason I  am trying to install linux01:50
jdiwnabwhere do I put -fno... because it wasn't on the make line01:50
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RogueJediXDarkkish: And if that doesn't work, there's always cedega. The cvs (or svn, I can't remember) checkout is free, as I recall01:50
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Darkkishcedega costs money01:51
DarkkishDasnipa`: don't tell me to get a life >.> WoW is a stress releaver not my life.01:51
RogueJediXDarkkish: Only pre-built packages cost money, I think01:51
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Darkkishi see01:51
Darkkishwell anyways01:51
DarkkishWoW works excellent in my build of wine01:51
Darkkishexept01:51
Dasnipa`Darkkish, cedega is rather inexpensive...01:51
Jack1hi.01:51
Darkkishi can't get the ****ing adio to work -_-01:52
jdiwnabh3sp4wn, where do I put -fno... because it isn't on the make line01:52
jayIs there a way to downgrade to the last version of WINE that worked for my application?01:52
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Jack1i hav ethe problem while doing a dist-upgrade to edgy i get:01:52
RogueJediXDarkkish: Did you try turning off the audio system prior to running WoW?01:52
h3sp4wnjdiwnab: CFLAGS01:52
Darkkishum01:52
Darkkishyeah01:52
Darkkishseveral times >.>01:52
jdiwnabwhat the heck is CFLAGS?01:52
Darkkishin several different ways01:52
intelikeyjay you could remove wine and get the .deb from the mirrors and dpkg -i package.deb01:53
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RogueJediXOh. Well, that's all I had -_-01:53
astronautesomeone know how to install Teamspeak Client and/or Quake 3 on EDGY 64 please ??01:53
jdiwnabh3sp4wn, what are CFLAGS/01:53
intelikeyjay  i make no promiceses about it not breaking something.01:53
RogueJediXastronaute: I dunno about Teamspeak, but there's a nice Loki installer for Quake 301:53
jordi_hello guys, somebody improved 6.10?01:54
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jayintelikey:  Right... I fully understand that when I start customizing, I run risks of breaking things.01:54
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jay:)01:54
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astronauteRogueJediX:  even on 64 ?01:54
jdiwnab!cflag01:55
RogueJediXastronaute: Yup, you just have to run the right file01:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cflag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:55
Darkkishi think i finally got it01:55
RogueJediXastronaute: I can give you the site, if you like01:55
NameNomad!ark01:55
ubotuark: graphical archiving tool for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 287 kB, installed size 1004 kB01:55
Darkkishnot the audio01:55
jayjdiwnab:  the gentoo.org web site has lots of info on cflag01:55
Darkkishfirefox201:55
astronauteRogueJediX:  oh yes please =)01:55
jdiwnabh3sp4wn, what are CFLAGs01:56
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RogueJediXastronaute: You probably know this, but you'll need your Quake 3 CD in the CD/DVDrom unit when you run the installer01:56
astronautei have mounted ISO already01:57
larson9999robert herron on dl.tv is funny.  just about everything that bugs me he says, "i've been using it for a while and i really like it."01:57
jdiwnabWHAT ARE CFLAGS01:58
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h3sp4wnjdiwnab: Try google (you now know what you need to do) I cannot be bothered spoonfeeding you all the way sorry01:58
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RogueJediXastronaute: Just a minute, my net is slow today01:58
larson9999compile flags to set compile options01:59
astronautenp RogueJediX01:59
ragplease somebody have a AMD Sempron?01:59
astronauteis it liflp ?01:59
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astronautehttp://www.liflg.org01:59
astronautemaybe ?01:59
RogueJediXastronaute: Nah, they only have the True Combat mod on there01:59
RogueJediXastronaute: Otherwise, that's the place to go, if you're looking for installers, yeah01:59
NameNomadhow can I update my Ark paths so I can unrar .rar files and unlzh .lzh files?01:59
NameNomadmainly the .rar files02:00
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ragI have a sempron with problems on "Starting ACPI Services..." on live startup, please help02:00
RogueJediXastronaute: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake3/linux/linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run02:00
jmichaelxwould anyone know how to set up a bridge between 2 PCs using zeroconf?02:00
RogueJediXFinally02:00
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astronauteRogueJediX:  i have this file already02:00
jmichaelxi want one PC to access the internet via the NIC on another PC...02:01
astronauteits a q3 installer 32bits02:01
RogueJediXastronaute: Then you're all set. Just look for the 64-bit binary02:01
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astronauteRogueJediX:  64 binary of Loki installer ?02:01
RogueJediXastronaute: no worries. You get both the 32-bit and the 64-bit binaries after the install finishes02:01
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RogueJediXastronaute: The installer doesn't need to be 64-bit, it just extracts files. It does, however, give you a 64-bit binary you can run02:02
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NameNomaddoes anyone know how to change the ark paths?02:02
astronauteRogueJediX:  im afraid i dont understand =) so i have to run installer and put --keep or such ?02:02
RogueJediXastronaute: No, no. Run it and after it's done you just have to copy the .pk3 files from the CD or ISO02:03
RogueJediXOr does it do that by itself? I can't remember02:04
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astronauteRogueJediX:  The setup program seems to have failed on unknown/glibc-2.002:06
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astronauteThis installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown02:07
RogueJediXHm, that's a bit out of my league :/02:07
astronauteI told you already02:07
astronautemy kubuntu is 64bits02:07
astronaute=)02:07
astronauteand q3 is 32bits02:07
astronauteon gentoo is easy to do it02:07
RogueJediXActually, q3 is both ways02:07
astronauteemulating 32bits02:07
astronauteim not sure that q3 is 64 bits, because it cant install actually =)02:08
RogueJediXMaybe you could ask someone to run the installer and send the extracted files to you?02:08
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RogueJediXastronaute: it is, trust me. I have it on a shelf somewhere02:08
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astronauteRogueJediX:  i can extract files with --keep command i think02:09
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Darkkishwhere is the best place for KDE themes?02:09
RogueJediXastronaute: That only extracts the installer, I meant the actual files02:09
RogueJediXDarkkish: http://kde-look.org02:10
astronauteeh what files i need ?02:10
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RogueJediXastronaute: The ones that the installer spews out after it's finished02:10
clemDarkkish: kde-look.org02:10
lontra!mirrors02:10
ubotuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive02:10
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Darkkishum how do i install them lol02:10
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astronauteRogueJediX:  you are sure i dont need any extra libs for q3 to work ?02:11
astronauteas it is obviously not 64 apps =)02:11
astronautels -l02:11
astronauteoops02:11
RogueJediXastronaute: Well, I then I wouldn't understand why they'd pack a 64-bit binary in the installer02:12
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astronauteRogueJediX:  where you see 64bit binary ?02:12
RogueJediXastronaute: Look for q3_64 or quake3_64 or something like that02:13
RogueJediXAFTER you've installed it, of course02:13
astronauterofl =)02:13
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astronauteq3ded  quake3  quake3-smp  quake3-smp.x86  quake3.x8602:14
astronautebut I cant install it =)02:14
RogueJediXastronaute: You're gonna kill me02:14
RogueJediXI thought it had 64-bit support, when it only had multi-processor support x_x02:15
RogueJediXSorry02:15
astronauteok so you killed me actually02:15
astronaute=)02:15
astronauteok so let start from the begining ^^02:15
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Darkkishhow do i install edgy?02:15
RogueJediXastronaute: You could try nexuiz or warsow if you're into that sort of thing, though02:15
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astronauteRogueJediX:  i play only q3/q402:16
astronautesometimes w302:16
larson9999anyone give wine .9.24 a try?02:16
astronautefor w3 wine is ok i suppose02:16
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RogueJediXDarkkish: Two ways. LiveCD or alternative install CD. Or three, if you're upgrading02:17
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avalonIs there a way I can run files that use the Visual Basic runtime through WINE?02:17
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Darkkishupgrading02:18
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Darkkishi'm doing it the way iy says in the topic02:19
Darkkishso it better work >.>02:19
astronauteDarkkish:  change dapper by edgy in /etc/sources.lst then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade02:19
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astronaute./etc/apt/sources.lst of course02:20
astronaute=)02:20
jdiwnabwell, I found out about CFLAGS, ateleast somewhat, and it still segfaults02:20
larson9999astronaute: are there other ways people upgrade?02:20
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Hawkwind!upgrade | Darkkish02:21
ubotuDarkkish: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)02:21
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astronautelarson9999:  dunno my girlfriend done like this and it worked02:22
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jdiwnabAny help would be appricitated02:22
odlahi...how can i make kwalletmanager remember my WEP password for my home network.  i'm using knetworkmanager to manage this.02:23
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flaccidodla: knetworkmanager needs to support kwallet. ask in #kde02:24
bobbyyuOK, when I try to modify file-sharing settings, the damn thing still locks up even when I put a password02:24
odlaflaccid: it works in debian02:24
flaccidodla: do what you did in debian then?02:25
odlaflaccid: i do :/02:25
flaccidodla: what happens?02:25
lguilhermehello, do your use debian linux?02:25
lguilhermeubuntu02:25
flaccidi have edgy upgrade problem. please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28967/02:25
larson9999astronaute: i just wondered because that's what i did on 3 different machines and everything worked great.  but then i hear of all these upgrading issues and just wondered if i'm just lucky02:25
odlaflaccid: it asks for my kwallet passwd then it connects me automatically to the network02:25
odlaflaccid: here it asks for my kwallet passwd and then it still asks me for my WEP passwdc02:26
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astronautelarson9999:  i suppose that if you install lot of softs without adept, or apt-get, it may be risky02:26
flaccidodla: i would ask in kde. also look in the wallet manually.02:26
astronautebut people that ask how to upgrade usually use only adept or apt-get =)02:26
Darkkishi'm getting an erro02:26
Darkkisherror02:26
Darkkish"resource currently unavailible"02:26
Darkkishi don't have anything open that would be using it...02:27
bobbyyuIs there a way to specify a password another way02:27
astronautebe sure to close adept first Dannilion02:27
astronauteDarkkish:02:27
bobbyyuLike from the Konsole shell?02:27
shadowhywindhello all, i have a friend who is having issues with his xorg, when he tries to startx he is getting, Error opening /dev/wacom : Invalid argument, (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom, No such file or directory.02:27
shadowhywindany ideas?02:27
astronautebobbyyu:  yes02:27
Darkkishadept is closed dude02:27
astronauteDarkkish:  then what ressoruce is used ?02:28
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Darkkishhow do i check?02:28
muhammedwhich directory i have to choose02:28
bobbyyuHow do I do it, astronaute02:28
flaccidshadowhywind: does the computer have any wacom devices?02:28
jdiwnabWHY IN THE HECK IS IT SEGFAULTING WHEN BUILDING NDISWRAPPER?!02:28
muhammedif i want to backup my complete system?02:28
astronauteDarkkish:  pastbin oplease02:28
astronautebobbyyu:  root password ?02:29
bobbyyuYes02:29
flaccidjdiwnab: don't shout.02:29
Darkkish!pastebin02:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:29
shadowhywindwhat is a wacom device?02:29
flaccid!backup > muhammed02:29
bobbyyuI need to get into system settings02:29
jdiwnabI know I should shout, but this is getting me very mad02:29
bobbyyuNamely, Sharing02:29
flaccid!baddevice > shadowhywind02:29
astronautebobbyyu:  usually you dont need root password, you can do everything with sudo prefix02:29
jdiwnab*shouln't02:29
Darkkishhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28971/02:29
jdiwnab**shouldn't02:29
NameNomadwhat command would I use to mount my extra hard drive?02:29
bobbyyuWhat do I type?02:29
NameNomadwhen I try to use the menu mount it tells me that hdb5 isn't in /etc/fstab02:30
flaccidNameNomad: mount02:30
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astronautebobbyyu:  you are on edgy kubuntu right ?02:30
flaccidNameNomad: fs?02:30
bobbyyuYes02:30
NameNomadntfs02:30
NameNomadI'm using mc to get something from it02:30
astronautebobbyyu:  you type sudo before any root commands, and type your user pswd when asked02:31
shadowhywindi am not getting any baddevices02:31
flaccid!ntfs > NameNomad02:31
Darkkishastronaute: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28971/02:31
shadowhywindwould you like to see the log? i can pastebin it..02:31
bobbyyuastronaute: So do I type sudo -i ?02:31
flaccidshadowhywind: i know, but it still could be the problem. you have dif error because nobody usually starts X with startx02:31
astronauteDarkkish:  did you put "sudo" before your commands ?02:32
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flaccidshadowhywind: remove the wacom devices first02:32
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flaccidi'm made with it to02:32
Darkkishyes02:32
Darkkishastronaute: yes02:32
astronautebobbyyu:  for exemple : sudo apt-get update02:32
jdiwnab*mad02:32
flaccidah mad02:32
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astronautebobbyyu:  or anything else02:32
Darkkishshould i restart X?02:32
shadowhywindI will have try that02:32
bobbyyuWell how can I get into System Settings?02:32
flaccidhehe02:32
bobbyyusudo systemsettings?02:32
Darkkishwill that do anything?02:32
astronauteDarkkish:  something is using your dpkg, so yes02:33
Darkkishk brb02:33
Admiral_Chicagobobbyyu: why can't you use the GUI?02:33
bobbyyuI don't know. It just freezes when I specify the password02:33
bobbyyuNot letting me in02:33
jdiwnabflaccid, do you have any clue why building NDISwrapper would make GCC segfault?02:33
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flaccidjdiwnab: have you googled ?02:33
Admiral_Chicagothat's strang02:33
Darkkishshit02:33
Darkkish:X02:33
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Darkkishthat didn't fix anything02:33
astronautebobbyyu:  try "ALT+F2" then type for exemple "kdesu kate"02:34
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Darkkishastronaute: that didn't fix my problem :-/02:34
astronauteDarkkish:  use "top" to see what is using dpkg, i cant help you on it, or you can maybe just reboot =)02:34
Darkkishlol02:34
bobbyyuI can get into kate02:34
Darkkishi thought reboot was a M$ thing02:34
astronauteDarkkish:  it is, but if you dont know what is using dpkg02:35
astronautethen its is your thing too02:35
astronaute=)))02:35
flaccidDarkkish: you can kill the dpkg process02:35
Darkkishflaccid: the dpkg process is not running02:35
astronautekill the computer !!02:35
astronaute^02:35
flaccidDarkkish: whats the error02:35
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astronautebobbyyu:  then what is not working02:35
Darkkishflaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28971/02:35
avalonAny way to run VB runtime files through wine?02:36
bobbyyuGetting into "Sharing" from "System Settings" (Or, I can get into Sharing, but it's blocked off even when I enter the password)02:36
flaccidDarkkish: the pid could be locked only02:36
jdiwnabgoogle only has it segfaulting when trying to load the moduals, not in making it02:36
Darkkishflaccid: what do you mean?02:37
flaccidlock is on the pid file02:37
astronautebobbyyu:  you click on ""Administrator"02:37
astronautebobbyyu:  you click on ""Administrator Mode ..."02:37
bobbyyuYes I did02:37
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astronauteon bottom of sharing02:37
Darkkishand i need to unlock the pid file?02:37
bobbyyuYes I did02:37
flaccidDarkkish: yes but i can't remember how. i'm looking on google atm02:37
Darkkishk thanks02:37
jdiwnabflaccid, I just did, and google's got nothing on this that I can see02:38
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flaccidjdiwnab: not much you can do..02:38
astronautebobbyyu:  and what is not working there ?02:39
astronauteits all grey ?02:39
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bobbyyuThe menu; it's greyed out02:39
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bobbyyuWith a red and black border02:39
flaccidDarkkish: try deleting /var/lib/dpkg/lock then try again02:39
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bobbyyuNo solutions, right?02:41
astronautebobbyyu:  same thing here, but im not using sharing02:41
astronautesorry i cant help you about it02:42
astronautebobbyyu:  http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2377/280/1600/filesharing.jpg02:42
Darkkishhow do i delete it?02:42
Darkkish-_-02:42
Darkkishi'm so new to this "root" stuff02:42
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bobbyyuI'm going to reboot02:43
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Omegatron1. would it be possible/faster to download the latest CD over bittorrent, mount the ISO as a drive, and upgrade using apt-cdrom? 2. if possible, can I cancel a dist-upgrade and do that?  I followed the directions on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php but it's super slow02:45
Darkkishflaccid: how do i get root in konq?02:45
paulwDarkkish: you're not trying to install from command line while synaptic is updating are you?02:45
Darkkishno02:45
flaccidDarkkish: kdsesu konqueror02:46
Darkkishnothing is updating02:46
Darkkishflaccid: how do i delete files via konsole?02:46
flaccidDarkkish: rm02:46
Omegatronkdesu02:46
Darkkishflaccid: ty02:46
flaccidomg the amount of errors on this edgy upgrade is ridiculous02:46
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flaccidfix one error, then get another one02:47
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h3sp4wnflaccid: sudo aptitude purge xserver-xorg-driver~i (you definately don't need those)02:48
flaccidxserver-xorg-driver~i ?02:48
astronauteDarkkish:  reboot you computer , you have something using dpkg and you dont now what =)02:49
Darkkishhold on02:49
flaccidDarkkish: did you try removing the lock first?02:49
NameNomad!reformat02:51
ubotureformat: simple tool for re-formatting plain ascii texts. In component universe, is optional. Version 20040319-1 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 56 kB02:51
NameNomad!format02:51
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks02:51
NameNomadugh, can't think02:51
Darkkishgod02:52
Darkkishmy mom was on the phone02:52
DarkkishERajla;ekrja;qa02:52
DarkkishGRARGREG02:52
Darkkishshe wouldn't get off02:52
Darkkishshe was asking me stupid questions about a souveneer from Universal Studios02:52
shadowhywindhehe gotta love the phonecall in the middle of linux troubleshooting02:52
Darkkishno kidding02:52
Darkkish"what are you doing"02:52
Darkkish"trying to fix my computer"02:52
Darkkish"oh.."02:52
Darkkish-_-02:52
Darkkishdoesn't even stop her02:52
NameNomadcan anyone tell me what the command for formatting my slave drive to FAT32 or ext3 filesystem would be?02:52
Darkkishlol02:52
NameNomadI seriously can't think tonight, too much ish going on02:53
Darkkishuse a partition editor?02:53
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NameNomadhmm02:53
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NameNomadthat's just crazy enough to work02:53
shadowhywindi would just use qtpartition02:53
Darkkishok so now02:53
Darkkishi'm getting a "Broken packages" error02:54
Darkkishbut the other error is gone02:54
Darkkishi'm going to try via adept realfast02:54
Darkkishand no02:54
Darkkishi havn't had it open the whole time02:54
flaccidDarkkish: the removal of lock fixed it?02:55
Darkkishyes02:55
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Darkkishit fixed that error anyway02:55
Darkkishnow onto the next one -_-02:55
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Darkkishits working fine in adept02:56
Darkkishso we'll see what happens from there02:56
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jmichaelxwould anyone have an idea how to configure mplayer-plugin in firefox to play embedded .wmv video (yahoo news clips, for example) in edgy? i was able to play these videos in dapper, but since upgrading i've had no success.02:57
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Darkkishshit i hope adept isn't updating wine02:58
Darkkishit was painstakenly built02:58
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NameNomadwrite that filesystem you silly mkfs you02:58
OkinawaSkittles5i am trying to use the kubuntu live cd (6.06) but it keeps hanging up at "Saving Vesa" any suggestions on what to do?02:58
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shadowhywindtry noacpi02:00
OkinawaSkittles5thanks02:00
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OkinawaSkittles5shadowhywind: still hangs up at saving vesa state, i am typing in   noacpi noapic nolapic apci=off    any other suggestions?02:05
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shadowhywindi know this is a long shot, and its probably not it, pnpbios=off02:06
OkinawaSkittles5i'll try anything right now thanks02:06
shadowhywindalso02:06
shadowhywindtry noapic02:06
flaccidhow can i force remove a package?02:06
shadowhywindi remember having sort of this same problem02:07
OkinawaSkittles5yeah, gentoo is the only thing i can get to load but even when it is done installing the x server doesnt want to work02:07
azmodeanI'm looking for some documentation.  I want to boot a linux install iso from my hard drive.  Can anyone point me to instructions to do this?02:07
Omegatronso is it possible to upgrade directly from an ISO file?02:08
azmodeanyea, I've done it before, but since then I did another install and it overwrote my menu.lst file02:08
Darkkishwow damn i hope this install works02:09
Darkkishshit02:09
Darkkishadept02:09
Darkkishhad to skip somethings :-/02:09
flaccidgeee force options with dpkg do nothing sometimes02:09
Darkkishhuh?02:10
azmodeanthe basic outline is you can extract the installer and have grub load and run it, then the installer can mount and load the iso and continue the installation02:11
azmodeanI just can't remember the necessary grub stanzas, and I've spent about an hour searching for them already02:11
NameNomadhow can I change the permissions for a folder/drive using the Konsole?02:13
OkinawaSkittles5shadowhywind: same thing, hangs up at saving vesa state... this is the first machine i have had problems with kubuntu02:14
paulwazmodean: look here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948&page=202:14
Omegatronbut i just want to do apt-get dist-upgrade, not boot off the ISO02:15
Omegatronwith apt-cdrm02:15
azmodeanthanks, that is just what I was looking for02:15
shadowhywindOkinawa are you upgrading or fresh install?02:15
paulwnp02:15
jdiwnab!wireless02:15
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:15
OkinawaSkittles5shadowhywind: fresh install02:16
azmodeanthe last time I did it the instructions were for fedora, but their forums seem to be down atm02:16
Darkkishi had to do some sort of dkpg --configure thing02:16
Darkkishor soimething like that02:16
Darkkishhow long will it take?02:16
Darkkishlol nvm02:16
flaccidyay i found a work around02:17
shadowhywindOkinawa try this02:18
shadowhywindnever tried it before try xforcevesa02:18
OkinawaSkittles5cool, will do02:18
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Darkkishso02:19
Darkkishafter i get edgy installed02:19
Darkkishdo i need to restart02:19
Darkkishor just restart X?02:19
shadowhywindi would do a full restart, you got a new kernel to boot into02:20
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Darkkishk02:21
Darkkishbbl then O.O02:21
shadowhywindgood luck02:21
DarkkishLOL02:21
shadowhywindHows it workin Okinawa02:21
Darkkishi don't honestly care if it breaks >.>02:22
shadowhywind*snickers*02:22
Darkkishif it breaks then i'll juts go back to windows for a while -_-02:22
Darkkishand download the 6.10 disk02:22
Darkkishdisc02:22
Darkkishanyways02:22
Darkkishbbl02:22
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OkinawaSkittles5shadowhywind: still hangs up02:27
shadowhywindsorry, i am out of ideas02:27
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OkinawaSkittles5its cool, thanks for your help02:28
Darkkishhi02:28
Darkkishit worked02:28
Darkkishwow02:28
shadowhywindtry all of them, lol02:28
Darkkisheverything looks different lol02:28
shadowhywindcongrats02:28
shadowhywindbut a good different an't it02:28
Darkkishyes02:29
Darkkishlol02:29
shadowhywindhay my friend commented the drivers out, now he is getting a X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0, xinit: connection refused (errno 111) unable to connect to X server, xinit: No such process (errno 3) Server error02:29
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Darkkishok02:30
Darkkishadept guys02:30
Darkkishits telling me i need to update python more02:30
Darkkishshould i?02:30
shadowhywindnod, i had about 5 lines of python s tuff that i had to upgrade02:30
moffawhat repositories do you have enabled?02:30
Darkkishi have about 30 lool02:30
Darkkishalot02:30
shadowhywindhehe02:31
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Darkkishwhats wrong flaccid?02:35
flaccidedgy upgrade w0es02:35
Darkkishlol02:35
Darkkishwith your videos not working via mplayer?02:35
flaccidbugs like this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285008 that don't have solutions02:35
flaccidno with upgrading02:35
flaccidthe packages02:36
Darkkishoh damn >.>02:36
flaccidif i finally do it all. i think when i reboot it will not work02:36
flaccidi have done a lot of manual stuff02:36
Darkkishscary02:36
flaccidit is scary02:37
Darkkishyay i think WoW still works02:37
Darkkishsofar anyway02:37
moffadoesnt work for me02:37
moffait keeps locking up, i dunno why02:38
Darkkishuh02:38
Darkkishwell02:38
flaccidi think its ironic that kubuntu is a desktop os for all users, especially unexperienced users, but upgrading is hard for anyone... in this case just 6.06 -> 6.10.02:38
Darkkishit doesn't work with wine02:38
Darkkishi had to make a custom build02:38
moffaflaccid - try using aptitude to upgrade02:38
Darkkishyeah imagine trying to upgrade 6 > 702:39
flaccidmoffa: a good idea. an even better one if that was in the upgrade instructions..02:39
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moffaI had to use it, b/c I had the same problem02:39
moffaEdgy has been really rough for me02:40
flaccidedgy is being rough for me too02:40
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flaccidi think i have a 1/50 chance of it working on reboot. if i get there.02:40
moffaGeneric kernel problems too?02:40
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moffaUse the 386 kernel, its working fine for me02:41
flaccidnah just getting the packages installed is proving very difficult. i have ran into 3 official bugs so far...02:41
fildolike ? n this for edgy update?02:41
flacciddevelopers need to remember that when things don't run as planned in the process, it is a bug02:42
flaccidyeah fildo02:42
fildomorning Blood02:42
flaccidhi there02:42
Darkkishhey02:42
Darkkishcan anyone help me get sound working in wow in wine02:42
moffaare you using cedega or wine?02:43
Darkkishwine02:43
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Darkkishor could someone help me compile a free working version of cedega?02:43
moffaactually it should be working in wine, and not in cedega02:44
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Darkkishk well moffa02:44
Darkkishthis isn't regular wine02:44
Darkkishi had a horrible problem with regular wine02:44
Darkkishi'm not willing to upgrade to regular wine02:44
Darkkishbecause02:44
Darkkishif it screws up again02:44
Darkkishi have no idea how to get it back to this point02:44
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Darkkishpersonally i think its a porblem with oss02:48
Darkkishbecause none of my OSS audio players work eithert02:48
Darkkishatleast i think they're oss02:48
Darkkishbecause no noise comes out of them02:48
Brydenn33hey, what do i need to do to fix this? ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28984/02:49
Darkkishcheck your qt isntallation?02:49
Brydenn33i'm pretty sure its installed02:50
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Darkkishno idea sorry :(02:51
Darkkishi'm tryin gto gte sound to work in WoW02:51
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Darkkishtrying to get02:51
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Brydenn33Darkkish: you using Cedega?02:52
Darkkishnope02:54
Darkkishwine02:54
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Darkkisha specially compiled version02:54
Brydenn33auh02:54
Darkkishthat i could never recompile02:54
Brydenn33CVS02:54
Darkkishwhich is why i can't upgrade wine02:54
Darkkishcvs?02:54
Brydenn33what special version of wine?02:54
Brydenn33i know they have test versions02:55
Brydenn33i think the absolute latest is 0.9.902:55
Brydenn33but i'm not 100% sure02:55
Brydenn33you should try Cedega if ya cant get wine to work02:56
moffaI'm using Wine 0.9.22, it kind of runs okay, it freezes up sometimes02:56
Brydenn33wine isn't perfect :)02:56
moffaya, its pretty good though02:56
Brydenn33crashes and lockups are just part of it... but you're right... it's good02:56
Darkkishits a specially compiled version02:56
Darkkishthat runs wow without errors i was getting from the last latest version02:57
Brydenn33alright Darkkish. i'm just saying... i have Cedega 5.2 and the latest update if ya change your mind :)02:57
Darkkishwhen i walked into buildings wow would FREAKOUT02:57
Darkkishoh02:57
Darkkishi'd like to try tht02:57
Darkkishthat02:57
Brydenn33hehe ok02:57
Brydenn331 sec02:57
Darkkishdoesn't cost anything does it?02:57
Brydenn33well ya Cedega does02:57
beefsprocket$5/mo02:57
Brydenn33but bittorrent is my friend :)02:57
Darkkishlol02:57
Brydenn33haha02:57
Darkkishyou can use cedega without paying?02:57
Brydenn33yes02:58
Brydenn33they charge you for updates and having a voice in what game to emulate next02:58
Darkkishlol02:58
Brydenn33among a few other things02:58
Darkkishforget that :p02:58
Brydenn33that's why it's so cheap02:58
Brydenn33i know02:58
beefsprocketthat and everytime wow or steam updates, cedega breaks02:58
Brydenn33but Cedega is a fork of wine designed for games02:58
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Brydenn33lol02:59
Brydenn33ya02:59
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Darkkishso where can i get it02:59
beefsprocketisohunt, demonoid, mininova, torrentspy...03:00
beefsprocketetc. etc.03:00
Darkkishhow do i know its the latest?03:00
beefsprocketget 5.2.3 and 5.2.603:00
DarkkishBrydenn33: you were saying something about 1 sec03:01
moffa5.2.6 is the newest version03:01
beefsprocketjust that the 5.2.6 torrent is just a cpkg upgrade03:01
beefsprocket5.2.3 is the most recent full torrent03:01
moffaah ok03:01
Brydenn33Darkkish: i dont have the latest Cedega client but i have 5.203:01
Brydenn33which isnt very old03:01
Brydenn33however i have the latest cpkg upgrade03:02
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moffagotta run, I'll be back03:02
Brydenn33i just tried DCCing it to you03:02
beefsprocketDarkkish meet Brydenn33 :)03:02
Brydenn33lol03:02
Brydenn33exactly03:02
Brydenn33Darkkish: you there?03:02
Darkkishyes03:02
Darkkishi'm here03:02
Brydenn33k accept this03:02
Brydenn331 sc03:02
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Darkkishk i accepted03:02
Darkkishsorry never DCC'd on this03:03
Brydenn33its ok03:03
Brydenn33you're getting it03:03
Darkkishyeah lol03:03
Brydenn33i assume you know how to install a .deb file right?03:03
Brydenn33k one more file03:03
Darkkishi've only used mIRC03:03
Darkkishuh03:03
Darkkishno03:03
Brydenn33yah mIRC was my windows IRC client of choice too03:03
Darkkishi'm a total linux n00b >.>03:03
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Darkkishits the best03:03
Brydenn33in fact i liked no name script03:03
Darkkishtoo bad it fails in wine03:03
Darkkishi made my own scripts03:03
Darkkishit was fun03:03
Darkkishi could make practicly anything03:04
Darkkishmy friend built a websever03:04
Darkkishand we were working on a system where tons of people could work on one code at the same time in real time03:04
Brydenn33hey accept that other file03:04
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K`zanIs kubuntu something totally separate from ubuntu or can I just install kde?03:04
Brydenn33they're one in the same03:04
Brydenn33just different GUI's03:05
Brydenn33go to ubuntu.org and read03:05
K`zanBrydenn33: Thanks, saves me from downloading the kubuntu CD :-).  Apprecaite that :-)!03:05
Brydenn33hehe no prob03:05
Brydenn33i like KDE though03:05
Darkkishyou can just install KDE03:05
Darkkishlol03:05
Brydenn33not too into gnome03:05
Darkkishi had gnome on this for a while03:05
Darkkishyeah03:05
Darkkishi didn't like all the crap it added to my KDE build so i removed it03:06
Darkkisher not build but03:06
K`zanAbout to replace gentoo on 5 boxes here with ubuntu - been a while since I did deb :-).03:06
Darkkishthingey03:06
Darkkishlol wow03:06
Brydenn33i think you'll like it K`zan03:06
Brydenn33package system is nice03:06
DarkkishVERY03:06
K`zanTHis machine is so decadent that it can stand some unnecessary stuff :-) while I re-learn deb.03:06
Brydenn33and everything is pretty user friendly03:06
Darkkishalmost everything :p03:06
Darkkishsomeone needs to teach me how to install things without using repositorys03:07
Darkkishies*03:07
K`zanWell, about the ONLY concern is i386 rather than custome compiled apps, but as noted, this (and most of the machines here) are decadent enough that is really isn't an issue :).03:07
Brydenn33ya03:07
Brydenn33ok Darkkish03:07
beefsprocketDarkkish: easy, download the source, untar, ./configure, make, make install03:07
K`zanJust a kde junkie :-)03:07
Brydenn33ready for some help on the install?03:07
Brydenn33beefsprocket: it's not always that easy haha03:08
Brydenn33if it was everyone would be on linux and not on windows03:08
K`zanWill probably need to do a custom kernel at some point, but for now, I'll be OK with just the regular install/03:08
beefsprocketlol, no, sometimes a checkinstall is nice ;P03:08
caribou8Where do you go in Edgy to set up the VNC server?03:08
Brydenn33lmfao ya checkinstall is the way to go03:08
K`zancheckinstall?  Ahh, much to learn again :-)03:09
beefsprocketeasy to undo the badness of a build gone awry03:09
Darkkishwhere did that stuff download to? lol03:09
beefsprocketK`zan: it's used to make a .deb out of a package built from source03:09
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K`zanbeefsprocket: Ah, that should be handy with all the oddball crap I run :-)!03:10
DarkkishBrydenn33:  i don't think i can PM03:10
Brydenn33yes you can03:10
Brydenn33go back to PM lol03:10
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linuxbentohey can someone help me out with something?03:11
linuxbentoi'm trying to run frostwire03:11
linuxbentoalready installed it, just don't know how to run it, i am a bit of a noob03:12
linuxbentoanyone?03:13
miyakoI've never even heard of Frostwire, sorry :(03:13
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linuxbento:-P03:13
linuxbentothanks though03:13
miyakowhat is it? I might be able to suggest an alternative that I do know how to use lol03:14
Brydenn33i know what Frostwire is03:14
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Brydenn33and i think i know your problem too03:14
Brydenn33hold on03:14
Brydenn33helping someone already03:14
flaccidlinuxbento: its in the internet menu in kmenu03:14
flaccidmiyako: why not just run the program that is installed03:14
clintonA few days ago I changed the activation key for klauncer from alt-space to win-space, now the program actually has to load up and is nowhere near as responsive as it was before.  Does changing the key cause KDE to not use a previous instance of it?03:15
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miyakoflaccid, I was 80% joking, 20% suggesting that I would be more helpful helping with something i've actually used03:16
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flaccidits hard hard to convey tone over irc03:17
flaccidwb dildo03:18
flaccidits funny how long upgrading takes w/ linux/deb compared to other operating systems03:18
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Darkkishlol03:21
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zordaHey how do i switch from ubunto to KND>03:23
flaccidKND> ?03:24
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zorda?03:24
flaccidwhat is KND?03:24
DarkkishLDE?03:24
DarkkishKDE?**03:24
zordaKubuntu03:24
flaccid!kubuntu-desktop03:25
ubotuk/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.03:25
K`zanI think he means KDE...03:25
Darkkishinstall kde via adept03:25
Darkkishinstall kde via adept03:25
Darkkishits hte best way to do it03:25
Darkkishthen restart X03:25
flaccidinstall kubuntu-desktop meta-package03:25
Darkkishand chose kde on your dropdown list03:25
zordaThats it?03:25
Darkkishbefore you log in03:25
Darkkishyep03:25
flaccidyep thats it03:25
flaccidremoving it is not as easy03:25
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zordaI'm going to see KDE ok befor i get rid of linux03:26
astronautecan someone help me with DeKorator plz ? it wont change decorations :/03:26
flaccidzorda: why get rid of linux?03:26
zordanothing appelas to me03:26
K`zanHeh, after linux / kde I dumped wincrap :-)03:26
zordathe only thing here is secrity03:27
flaccidzorda: what are you go to use instead?03:27
zordaWindow03:27
zordaWindows03:27
flaccidand you find windows appealing why?03:27
zordaTill i have to get vista03:27
flaccidVista is total bloatware03:27
zordaGames File support and accessablity03:27
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zordaI know03:27
astronautewindows is noob friendly, its normal they find linux too hard03:27
K`zanI'll keep XP only because of flight sim, other than that I have NO plans for vista...03:27
flaccidwell windows is shite for accessibilty and you can dual boot or use wine for the games..03:28
LjL!flightgear03:28
K`zanSomeday I should try wine for m$fs.03:28
ubotuflightgear: Flight Gear Flight Simulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.10-2 (edgy), package size 2081 kB, installed size 5484 kB03:28
flaccidastronaute: no reason to give up03:28
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zordaI hate dual booting i cant get rid of linux becouse of it03:28
caribou8Nobody knows how to set up the VNC server?  It was somewhere in the system settings in Drake, but I have checked everywhere in Edgy and can't find it.03:28
flaccidzorda: how so?03:28
astronauteflaccid:  time is the reason03:28
zordaLinux put a flie on my master with window to boot linux or windows03:28
flaccid!vnc > caribou803:28
K`zanLjL: Yep, but I've been running that FS since it came out for that old apple ] [ :-).03:28
flaccidzorda: that is easily fixed03:29
K`zanFG is coming along nicely, esp now that there are resonable helos.03:29
flaccidastronaute: yes people are impatient03:29
zordaso other then sucrity what does linux offer?03:29
astronauteflaccid:   or they simply dont have time, they want things to work immediately =)03:29
linuxbombzorda: virus free03:29
flaccidlinux offers everything03:29
K`zanzorda: I have everything I want and need under linux and am a LOT happoer and less frustrated with it :-).03:29
clintonzorda: customization03:29
zordaI cant ever fun mp3s03:29
zordarun03:30
flaccidastronaute: kubuntu is far from that03:30
zordai cant dl the fing files03:30
linuxbombzorda: thats because your an idiot03:30
zordaYour an idiot03:30
K`zanzorda: It takes some learning, but it is WELL worth the time spent.03:30
zordaIt says it cant dl the repsitorys03:30
flaccidfing files?03:30
K`zanIf one is lazy, stick with m$.03:30
astronauteflaccid:  im not sure, you see actually im on quake 3 and teamspeak for 24h already without solution (on 64bit edgy)03:30
Darkkishhey guys03:30
Darkkishany tips on getting OSS audio to work03:31
astronauteon gentoo its done in 20mns03:31
LjL!language | linuxbomb, zorda03:31
ubotulinuxbomb, zorda: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:31
Darkkishi ran a test and it says my oss audio is not working at all03:31
flaccidastronaute: thats linux for ya03:31
zordalinux offers no game or file support03:31
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K`zanzorda: you got a lot to learn, start early :-)03:31
zordaAnd its even bugger then windows03:32
flaccidzorda: thats funny linux can open files and you can play games on it to03:32
K`zanzorda: That is patently BS...03:32
DarkkishK`zan: i kindof agree03:32
MistaEDzorda: i've found linux opens a hell of a lot more files by default than windows does stock-standard03:32
noirI think there might be something wrong with my KDE. I'm trying to change resolutions but when switching between any resolution and my LCDs native resolution(1600x1200), there is no change in resolution. The rest of the resolutions work fine, and my xorg.conf looks to be correctly configured. Anyone  have any idea what could be wrong?03:32
Darkkishi get very few errors doing anything on windows03:32
zordaCan i play bf2?03:32
flaccidpeople like to compare bannanas with applese...03:32
linuxbombfile support hahaha its supports over 12 fs's that I know about03:32
Darkkishand i've gotten countless errors on this >.>03:32
zordaCan i play infantary?03:32
flaccidzorda: i don't know03:32
flaccidzorda: was it made for linux?03:33
azmodean_I like comparing apples to peanut butter03:33
Darkkishnoir does your video card handle the resolutions and your moniter?03:33
zordaLook i can dl the repsitory for mp3 it says 2 files didnt get in03:33
noiryes03:33
zordaflaccid:  heck no03:33
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zordanothing is03:33
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zordalinux is nothing but a hack box03:33
flaccidzorda: that is the vendor's problem03:33
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zordaAnd i can do all the hacking i want to in windows03:34
noiri have a evga geforce 7900 gt ko super clocked.03:34
K`zan ignore zorda03:34
flaccidzorda: thats funny. because windows can only be classifed as a hax box due to not following OS theory03:34
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flaccidzorda: thats coz windows is insecure03:34
zordaTell me how to dl the 2 files in the repsitorys03:34
rikainoir: i've got the same card. That DEFINITLY handle the resolution. :P03:34
zordaso i can get this mp3 thing working03:34
nikkunAnyone know how to change the KDM login screen in Edgy? I thought there used to be a place in the control center to change it but it is eluding me.03:34
flaccidzorda: you need to cite the error, we can't read minds03:34
flaccid!mp3 > zorda03:34
astronautezorda:  try xmms03:34
K`zanzorda: When all else fails read the instructions.03:34
flaccidinfact reading instructions is the most important thing03:35
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zordait says after hours of reading and typing crap in that 2 files in the repositors are corrupt or the server did not get them03:35
LjLnikkun: nah, you need a package03:35
flaccidzorda: pastebin the actual error, then we might be able to work something out03:35
LjL!info kdmtheme | nikkun03:35
nikkunLjL: ahh i was wondering about that do you know the name?03:35
ubotukdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB03:35
zordaI dont have it03:36
nikkunthanks03:36
zordaIts gone03:36
flaccidzorda: if you don't have the error, how can you find a solution?03:36
fildolol03:36
zordaThe error came up 2 days ago03:36
zordaits gone03:36
flaccidif the error is gone, maybe the problem is gone03:36
linuxbombhow could one recreate the error?03:36
zordano its not03:36
K`zanzorda: There ARE more than one repository...03:36
Delph_nzI would like to attempt to get dual montiors going on this box, i've read a bit of documentation, but before I start i was wondering if anyone had some trusty advice? I've got a 24" widescreen running 1920x1600 and would like to get my 17" to run 1280x1024 beside it please.03:36
astronauteI think zorda  is just too lazy and searching for a good reason to return on windows =)03:36
flaccidzorda: well fix it.03:36
flaccid!repos > zorda03:37
zordaI cant03:37
fildowell u must try obey one03:37
K`zanYep, m$ will spoon feed him mediocrity for a price.03:37
flaccidlazy users generally don't work with linux too well03:37
fildoor install ms .. n ring tech support03:37
K`zanflaccid: It takes some work, but is just SO worth the effort not having to take what m$ deems you can have :-).03:37
zordaDelph_nz:  Dual moniters out of the box HA! i cant even get dual moniters now03:37
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flaccidwith 8 versions of vista and the ultimate business license @ $AU751 i don't find vista attractive03:38
Delph_nzthanks for the advice zorda03:38
zordaVista03:38
K`zanzorda: Either make an effort or go back to m$ tit.03:38
zordaThat is retarted03:38
flaccidkzan agreed03:38
miyakois there any sort of page that has feature requests for Kubuntu?03:38
nikkunDelph_nz: what gfx card?03:38
fildolol03:38
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Delph_nzNvidia 7900GT with dual DVI03:38
MistaEDflaccid: hehe, do you want the best video card w/o vista or a crap-pile one /w ultimate vista for the same price?03:39
flaccidvista on clean install just loaded uses 520mb of ram before launching 1 application. i would also have to buy double the ram i have to run it.03:39
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linuxbombI think that some channel op should just kick zorda out, but thats just my opinion because i'm sick of hearing this03:39
astronauteDelph_nz:  nvidia-xconfig --twinview03:39
flaccidMistaED: hehe yeah03:39
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nikkunDelph_nz: you should be fine if you follow a guide to it for nvidia cards.  Nvidia are the easiest to get duals working03:39
astronauteDelph_nz: sudo nvidia-xconfig --twinview03:40
zordaIs KDE any easer then ubuntu?03:40
bobbyyuWell, I got the Sharing crap problem solved03:40
Delph_nzyeah i've tried once before, but only managed to get 1 desktop stretched over the 2 monitors, which looked horrid as they are different sized screns03:40
astronautebobbyyu:  some package not installed ?03:40
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bobbyyuBut now I'm on Dapper instead of Edgy03:40
bobbyyuYeah03:40
flaccidzorda: no03:40
bobbyyuSamba03:40
bobbyyuI'm an idiot03:40
K`zanzorda: KDE is just a window manager app.03:40
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bobbyyuNow I have a problem.03:40
astronautebobbyyu:  i was almost sure =)03:40
zordaIts just grapics...03:40
juaaaahello i am03:40
nikkunDelph_nz: in the System Settings you can goto the graphics section i believe it has layouts there for it03:41
bobbyyuI can't share my mounted shares (from Windows)03:41
juaaaa9 years old i am aargentinian03:41
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K`zanzorda:  Unlike m$ you got more than one with linux and can choose what you like best.03:41
zordayou kidding me right?03:41
juaaaai go03:41
juaaaacaca03:41
Delphinusok dont that i'll reboot x and see what happens03:41
juaaaapara03:41
astronauteDelph_nz:  you can make 2 separate desktops03:41
Delphinusdone*03:41
juaaaaaprender ingles03:41
Darkkishwell i have cedega set up exactly how i want ut03:41
juaaaasi03:41
Darkkishbut i need som ehelp03:41
flaccidzorda: is there anything we can actually help you with?03:41
zordaYea03:41
flaccidzorda: what is it03:42
K`zanzorda: if you need help, help people help you or just go to #bitchalot and have fun.03:42
zordaTell me that KDE is more then just a set of grapics on udntu03:42
zordaubunto03:42
K`zanzorda: KDE is just a window manager app.03:42
flaccidzorda: kde is more than just a set of graphics on udntu03:42
juaaaaastronaute what would youlike watermelon o melon03:42
MistaEDzorda: are you doing it from add/remove applications? i typed in mp3 from there and there's a really easy way to simply tick mp3 support and ubuntu does the rest03:42
bobbyyuIt says my stuff is shareable, but I can't access them when I'm on a separate computer03:42
nikkunzorda: KDE is an interely sepereate DE then GNOME which Ubuntu uses03:42
astronautejuaaaa:  apple03:42
K`zanzorda: a VERY powerful and feature laden window manager :-).03:42
bobbyyuHow can I make my mounts writable?03:43
juaaaaastronaute ihave got 9 years old03:43
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flaccidbobbyyu > fat03:43
flaccidbobbyyu: look at the masks on that webpage03:43
astronautejuaaaa:  im 703:43
zordaOk i need some help03:43
juaaaaastronaute vine para aprender english03:43
zordaSome thing real03:43
bobbyyuWhat's FAT? Fat 32?03:43
azmodean_KDE also provides an application framework, correct?03:43
astronautebobbyyu:  its a filesystem03:44
nikkunbobbyyu: are you useing NTFS or FAT?03:44
bobbyyuFAT03:44
flaccidbobbyyu: its a filesystem. the same mask options apply to any filesystem03:44
astronauteNTFS is not secure to write03:44
zordaHow do i get rid of the dualboot in to linux?03:44
juaaaaastronaute guauuuuuuu     im the unique on this chat03:44
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DarkkishFAT is not FAT3203:44
Darkkishthey're different03:44
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Darkkishidk how i just know they are03:44
Delph_nzoh hell, the display module could not be loaded03:44
bobbyyuMy filesystem is Fat3203:44
flaccidzorda: remove grub03:44
azmodean_zorda: do what you always do when you have problems as a windows user, reinstall03:44
zordaI cant just format the dirve becouse it put a dualboot on my master with windows03:44
juaaaahello03:44
bobbyyuI don't use FAT03:44
zordaNo03:44
nikkunDarkkish: FAT may mean FAT16 if that what your thinking..03:44
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juaaaai can speak you03:45
juaaaag03:45
juaaaag03:45
rikaiastronaute: ntfs is relatively secure with fuse... at least in my experience.03:45
juaaaag03:45
juaaaag03:45
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Darkkishnikkun: yeah thats right03:45
dudehello guys...03:45
MistaEDzorda: there's a way to make it boot into windows by default if you wish, with a 10 second or less window period to change between windows and linux03:45
Delph_nzwithin system settings... The diagnotics is [nothing] 03:45
zordaNO03:45
zordaHOW do i get rid of that file on my master!03:45
zordaSO i can format this HD!03:45
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astronauterikai:  not 100% sure, you can loose all data =)03:45
flaccidzorda: i'm not going to assist you in removing linux03:46
rikaiastronaute: with fuse?03:46
linuxbombzorda is english your native language?03:46
MistaEDzorda: i dunno, windows isn't very good at restoring the MBR but boot your windows xp cd and type "FIXMBR" in the recovery console03:46
nikkunzorda: i believe microsoft has a page on how to remove linux please look there03:46
zordaSee03:46
flaccidMistaED: damn should have let him asked in ##windows for that03:46
nikkunyah03:46
azmodean_zorda: but seriously, you should be able to just format the linux partition and reclaim it, I don't think the bootloader is going to cause you any problems03:46
astronauterikai:  i dont know if fuse can make it safe 100%03:46
bobbyyuI tried to change the permissions myself, but it doesn't work03:46
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zordaIt did03:46
flaccidazmodean_: won't help if grub is in mbr03:47
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MistaEDflaccid: it doesn't work anyway03:47
zordaIt said GRUB cannot laod please restart03:47
nikkunbobbyyu: can you write while root?03:47
flaccidMistaED: what doesn't work03:47
azmodean_I'm saying just to leave grub there03:47
bobbyyuHow?03:47
azmodean_aaah, you have a problem then03:47
dbgltwhen I plug my ipod in, it is not automounted. It is found in dmesg and connected, but the automount in kde does not work. What should I check?03:47
MistaEDflaccid: FIXMBR, didn't work for me on a computer03:47
zordaPlease assist me in removing linux someone03:47
dbglt(it used to work in the past)03:47
Delph_nzdid for me03:47
flaccidzorda: thats because you removed grub/linux but grub is still in the MBR. see what happens when you don't read instructions...03:47
nikkunbobbyyu: can you move stuff using sudo?03:47
flaccidMistaED: it works03:47
bobbyyuNot graphically03:47
nikkunbobbyyu: i know but can you in console?03:48
astronautezorda:  boot windows CD and recreate partitions03:48
bobbyyuWhat would you like me to move?03:48
linuxbombzorda sudo rm -rf /03:48
astronauteahaha03:48
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flaccidastronaute: that won't help if grub is in the mbr still03:48
zordaliar03:48
zordaI can not boot a cd with this linux03:49
flaccidlinuxbomb: i can't get into linux03:49
nikkunbobbyyu: im just asking if you can write to it as root even03:49
zordaWith windows i could03:49
zordaThats how i got it03:49
zordaAnd i want to keep window03:49
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zordaI dont have a back up03:49
flaccidzorda: for windows help, visit ##windows03:49
astronautethen you have to use linux for your entire life zorda  !!!!!!03:49
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milo75hey all. just installed kubuntu for the first time. got tired of the vista beta03:50
flaccidwe don't support windows here03:50
astronaute:ppp03:50
milo75which version of gaim 2.0 do I use for kubuntu03:50
milo75:p03:50
flaccidmilo75: nice one milo7503:50
astronauteflaccid:  \o/03:50
linuxbombdd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda03:50
BlackenQuestion - can you replace the usplash graphic?03:50
astronautedoes someone use DeKorator ???03:51
rikaiBlacken: yes.03:51
bobbyyuI can't chmod while in sudo mode03:51
K`zanSadly, I do remember the frustrations of moving from m$hit to linux but there is nothing you can do for someone going through that other than let them get smart and make the effort or let them go back to m$crap...03:51
SHRIKEEquestion, regarding Kontact/Kmail03:52
SHRIKEEanyone?03:52
bobbyyuif that's what you mean, Nikkun03:52
Kiongkujust dual boot..03:52
rikaiBlacken: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto03:52
Kiongkupfft03:52
Blackenrikai: Any hints on where to go? :p03:52
astronauteWe learn whole life, and we still die dumb =)03:52
flaccidnothing is for free. in this case its not a cost but you have to pay time to convert to linux. its called learning, and learning is a positive thing03:52
K`zanSHRIKEE: Try posting the question...03:52
Blackenrikai: Thank you.03:52
SHRIKEElink sent to me in an email, i want them opened in firefox instead of konqueror, i cannot find an option to set such behaviour... anyone knows how?03:53
K`zanflaccid: Not sure sure that is considered true in US "educational" institutions...03:53
astronauteSHRIKEE:  maybe you want to use Thunderbird instead ?03:53
SHRIKEEi dont want thunderbird  :)03:53
astronaute^03:53
flaccidK`zan: US has nothing to do with it03:53
azmodean_zorda: my professional advice would be to recover your files (I generally use a linux live cd and a usb hard drive to do this) and reinstall windows03:54
K`zanSHRIKEE: Root through the setup stuff in konqueror, IIRC it is in there someplace.03:54
DelphinusI now cannot get into display settings... getting the following error:03:54
DelphinusThe module Display could not be loaded.03:54
DelphinusThe diagnostics is:03:54
DelphinusPossible reasons:03:54
DelphinusAn error occured during your last KDE upgrade, leaving an orphaned module.03:54
DelphinusYou have old third party modules laying around.03:54
DelphinusCheck these points carefully and try to remove the module mentioned in the error message. If this fails, consider contacting your distributor or packager.03:54
bobbyyuI can't change permissions while in root mode03:54
SHRIKEEin konqueror?03:54
K`zanflaccid: Everyone expects a free lunch now?  Sigh...03:54
azmodean_(seriously, I do it at work all the time and it's the fastest way to do it)03:54
SHRIKEE*looks*03:54
Darkkishhey03:54
K`zanSHRIKEE: Under file associations, it has been a LONG time since I did that.  I wanted it to direct to firefox rather than konqueror :-)03:55
SHRIKEEmost things open in firefox03:55
flaccidfile associations are in konqueror configuration03:55
SHRIKEEjuist not the links i click in Kmail03:55
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K`zanSHRIKEE: LOL, I had to change it from konq :-).03:55
SHRIKEE... that doesnt make sense actually03:56
K`zanSHRIKEE: IIRC it is under file associations in konqueror, and no it doesn't make sense...03:56
rikaiBlacken: np03:56
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SHRIKEE*looks*03:56
flaccidit does make sense03:57
flaccidkonqueror being the kde file manager and all03:57
bobbyyuThis is my problem: I can't share anything from Windows mounts...03:57
SHRIKEEand file associations it was03:57
SHRIKEEwicked03:57
SHRIKEE:D03:57
bobbyyuJust so you're not clear03:57
K`zanSHRIKEE: settings-Configure konqueror->file associations and type in html...  Fix wherever appropriate.03:57
flaccidbobbyyu: did you read the webpage?03:58
SHRIKEEyoure right, flaccid, but such option is expected at Kmail to set03:58
SHRIKEElike "which browser to use, mark this"03:58
bobbyyuWhat web page?03:58
SHRIKEEorsomething03:58
flaccidi don't see how03:58
SHRIKEEi do03:58
flaccid!samba03:58
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:58
K`zanSHRIKEE: That would make sense :-)03:58
SHRIKEEyes03:58
SHRIKEEanyway, thanks :D03:58
flaccid^^ that one bobbyyu which i showed you before03:58
astronautehello =)03:58
SHRIKEEoh another thing i noticed, i think its a bug in kubuntu03:58
flaccidi have to go out03:58
flaccidbbl03:58
SHRIKEEwhen i disable the energy star thing to turn of my screen after 30 mintes03:59
SHRIKEEthat option is not saved03:59
K`zanSHRIKEE: KDE is all integrated and sometimes it doesn't make sense...03:59
SHRIKEEindeed K`zan03:59
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lascarso how does a kubuntu user downgrade releases?04:00
SHRIKEEuninstall, and install the older version?04:00
Darkkishhow do i disable arts?04:00
SHRIKEE...04:00
lascaryeah, WITHOUT uninstalling04:00
lascar?04:00
SHRIKEEdunno04:01
lascarDarkkish: you'll have to remove arts04:01
SHRIKEEwhy without uninstalling04:01
lascardoes it matter why though?04:01
SHRIKEEisnt arts the sound system?04:01
lascari've got this nagging feeling that edgy has bugs04:01
lascarall the wrong ones04:02
SHRIKEEwell lascar maybe its because yo uwant to keep something from the newer version, otherwise i see no reason not to uninstall04:02
SHRIKEEif you want to keep something yhou maybe can just save it for the time being,04:02
SHRIKEE:)04:02
Darkkishwill removing arts disable all sounds?04:02
zordaWell i will ask one more time is there a easer linux system for me to get started on?04:02
lascarshrikee: i don't want to keep something so much as I want to revert to the way things were before04:02
SHRIKEEzorda, which linux is easy depends on what you udnerstand of it04:03
lascarzorda: probably not04:03
zordaI need a easy linux04:03
SHRIKEEso far i think this is the easier one, for me04:03
lascarsuse has great hardware detection04:03
zordaIt is ok then04:03
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lascarbut is still too much of a bitch to install04:03
Linux_Galoreis there an update option on the kubuntu cd I cant seem to find one04:03
zordaWell thansk all04:03
morphishzorda: (k)ubuntu is pretty much as easy as it's gonna get04:03
Ahmuckzorda: i think kubuntu works well04:03
lascaragreed.04:03
morphishAhmuck: we were too slow04:03
lascarbut i'm having azureus problems all of a sudden..04:04
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SHRIKEEwhat kinda problems, lascar04:04
SHRIKEEmaybe its fixable04:04
lascarshrikee: i've got log, where should i post it?04:04
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SHRIKEE!pastebin04:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:05
lascarthanx04:05
SHRIKEEand give us the url to your paste offcoarse ;)04:05
lascarindeed.  You can find it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28996/04:06
ironfroggyis artsd connected to over sockets?04:06
SHRIKEEhold on04:06
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SHRIKEEwhat exactly were you doing?04:07
SHRIKEEusing azureus?04:07
Darkkishhey i need help04:07
Darkkishrunning an already installed program in cedega04:08
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lascarloading azureus04:08
Darkkishone that i didn't install via cedega04:08
lascarthe splash screen will show up04:08
lascarand then operations break04:08
SHRIKEEhmm04:08
lascari ran it under Konsole to find the error04:08
lascarthus the log file04:08
SHRIKEEthe error being your paste?04:08
lascarindeed04:08
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ironfroggyparticularly, is it possible to use an artsd running on another box?04:09
lascar"problematic frame?"04:09
lascar'twould be helpful to know java04:09
K`zanjava is EVIL ;-)04:09
ironfroggynot evil, just depressingly overweight.04:09
SHRIKEEjava is evil indeed04:10
K`zanLOL04:10
azmodean_see you, trying out that img based install04:10
SHRIKEEthe log is a load of gibberish to me04:10
SHRIKEEbut it seems to tell me this04:10
SHRIKEE007. # Problematic frame:04:10
SHRIKEE008. # C  [libglibjni-0.4.so+0x8d02] 04:10
SHRIKEEno idea what that is, but it might be a package04:10
lascari'm guessing definitely04:10
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Darkkishi'm learning java04:10
SHRIKEEyou referred to downgrading, so i guess it malfunctions after you upgraded ;)04:11
lascarbut it's not showing up in synaptic04:11
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SHRIKEEmaybe this needs upgrading04:11
SHRIKEEhmm04:11
lascarno, it actually worked for a bit04:11
lascarthat's possible04:11
lascarthere were new packages that are being kept back04:11
Delph_nzw00t dual monitors all go now, thanks for help everyone :D :D04:11
lascarunder development still?04:11
SHRIKEEhmm, well i cant tell you whats wrong :( sorry04:11
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lascar::shrugs:: you tried04:12
SHRIKEEheh04:12
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ruisuhey :) people04:13
lascarShrikee: you wouldn't happen to have any kept back packages, would you?04:13
ruisuim now running 6.10 :D04:13
SHRIKEEkept back packages?04:13
Linux_Galorenormally you do gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"  , is it the same in kubuntu for upgrades04:13
lascarshrikee: you running edgy?04:13
Linux_Galoreit doesnt seem to work04:13
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SHRIKEEdapper04:14
lascarah.04:14
lascar(smart move)04:14
lascar:(04:14
ruisuim haveing a problem: i have an NVidia chipset motherboard, and an ATI video card04:14
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nikkunLinux_Galore: i think you just set it up like a normal cd repo04:14
SHRIKEEheh04:14
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ruisu'v been selecting either one in the installer, but if i select one, the other uninstalls, what can i do?04:14
lascarruisu: whatever could have possessed you to buy an ATI card?04:14
ruisu256mb for 80 bucks?04:15
lascarnvidia chipset?04:15
Darkkishhey04:15
Darkkishumm04:15
Darkkishok i need to get OSS working >.>04:15
ruisuyep, nvidia nforce204:15
rikairuisu: you dont need to install the nvidia drivers. The nvidia drivers are for only if you've got an nvidia GRAPHICS card.04:15
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noirruisu just curious but what ati card did you get?04:15
nikkunruisu: what model ati card04:15
ruisuradeon 9950 something like that04:16
rikai9850 :P04:16
lascar::sighs:: and i'm a torrent whore to boot...04:16
ruisuumm, no there was no 804:16
SHRIKEElascar, why not use ktorrent04:16
lascari don't like the idea of waiting04:16
SHRIKEEi used it last week04:16
SHRIKEEits fine :)04:16
ruisujust 9s 5 and a cero04:16
lascardidn't like the feel of it04:16
SHRIKEEah04:16
lascarshrikee04:16
lascaryep04:16
lascarhowever04:16
lascari could tighten the belt until the powers that be finish the updates04:17
rikairuisu: the nforce chipset is alraedy supported ina  default ubuntu installation, so just follow the ati driver installation guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI04:17
SHRIKEEi usually download stuff on my windows pc but this jus so happened to be better on my laptop (kubuntu) and i quite liked it04:17
lascar(but why release if you're not FULLY finished?)04:17
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SHRIKEEto test, lascar04:17
SHRIKEEbeta releases04:17
ruisuok, thanks :)04:17
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nikkunruisu: you maybe will have problems with the fglrx driver since most 9500+ ati cards get messed up for reasons unknown04:17
lascaryeah, but i'd be more inclined to distribute betas to those with some coding backgrounds04:18
SHRIKEEtrue04:18
rikairuisu: no problem.04:18
SHRIKEEbut alot dont do that lascar04:18
lascartoo true ;)04:18
rikainikkun: does that incude the x series?04:18
lascari'll give ktorrent another spin04:18
ruisunikkun: um, no, its fine, last kubuntu worke at perfection with the fglrx-config04:18
nikkunrikai: the x series is where a lot of problems existed04:19
noirati in genral has alot of problems.04:19
nikkunthough this was dapper i think they got most of it fixed by edgy though i havent tried my ati comp since hte messa bug killed it04:19
rikainikkun: ah04:19
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intelikey hte is that over compensation for teh ?04:20
rikainikkun: the ati srivers being in such a sad state is 1/2 the reason i went for my evga(nvidia) 7900GT KO SC ;)04:21
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nikkunrikai: i have stated many times in forums i will never buy another ATI card after my laptop haveing so many bugs when it comes to graphics04:22
lascarshrikee: ktorrent will do indefinitely.  Thanx for everything04:22
rikainikkun: i'll buy anoter ati card.... but not ontil they get their drivers in shape.04:22
SHRIKEE:) no04:22
SHRIKEEnp04:22
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nikkunrikai: i dont think they will though with AMD buying them04:23
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rikainikkun: actually, i've got the exact opposite guess on that. That they're more likey to with AMD buying them.04:23
nikkunrikai: i hope your right but i havnt seen anything too nice come out of AMD recently04:24
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ruisuok, goodbye04:24
intelikeyrikai everyone knows intel is the only one that can make drivers...04:24
slimewhere's the place to config hot key to maximize window?04:24
nikkunintel and nvidia04:24
rikaiintelikey: ...rigggghhht.04:24
nikkununder accessabilty i believe04:24
intelikey</car-scasm>04:25
nikkunim curius who here uses konqueror and who uses firefox?04:25
intelikey!i04:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:26
soulrideri use Opera04:26
intelikeystupid bot.   don't answer my shortened "not I" statement.....  pfft04:26
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intelikeyfor the bots sake i'll try to remember to answer with  ! me  next time....04:28
Kiongku!me04:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:28
Darkkishh3y04:30
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Darkkisher04:30
Darkkishhey04:30
Darkkishdoes anyone know how to play a game in cedega that wasn't installed in cedega?04:30
ruisunope04:30
intelikeynikkun but as a matter of choise "that's all a poll is about anyway" i prefer konq over ff hands down.04:30
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ruisunikkun: im very thankful, now the ati configuration does work completly :)04:31
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Linux_Galorewhats replaces the plf repositories now04:34
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Darkkishi need help running a game in cedega04:34
Darkkishit has hot nude females in it and if i can play it i will send you some print screens04:35
Linux_GaloreDarkkish: go to the cedega channel04:35
intelikeythen i certenly wont try to help.04:35
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Linux_Galoreso nothing replaces the plf repo's for ubuntu ??04:36
Darkkishwell it got peoples attention04:36
Brydenn33ok who wants to help me out with some wireless card issues?04:36
intelikeyLinux_Galore plf04:36
Darkkishthere really are no nude females04:36
Darkkishits world of warcrafty04:36
Linux_Galoreintelikey: plf dont do a ubuntu repo anymore04:36
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Linux_Galoreintelikey: plf do all the weird codecs etc04:37
HawkwindLinux_Galore: Nothing is replacing PLF for the moment unless someone steps up and takes over the project04:37
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intelikeyLinux_Galore did as of dapper  i don't plan on ever seeing edgy.04:37
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Linux_Galoreintelikey: so no alternate site for ubuntu codecs, bummer04:38
intelikeybut one could probably use the codecs package from the dapper repo on edgy04:38
Jucatowhich codecs?04:38
Linux_Galorewin32 etc04:38
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intelikeyJucato !04:39
JucatoLinux_Galore: the one on the wiki (.deb) works fine I think04:39
Brydenn33common, anyone know much about wireless cards/networks?04:39
Jucatohi intelikey!04:39
Darkkishnobody will talk to me in cedega04:39
intelikeyhow is ya Jucato ?04:39
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Jucatointelikey: doing fine. very fine (but sleepy)04:39
intelikeyyeah it's earily there....04:40
Linux_GaloreBrydenn33: have you tried www.google.com/linux  yet and use your card model and the term ubuntu04:40
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JucatoLinux_Galore: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/04:40
Brydenn33Linux_Galore: i know my card is linux compatible04:40
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Brydenn33i even found a driver for it04:40
Brydenn33i'm just new to all that stuff04:41
ruisuumm, so another cuestion, how do i turn DRI?04:41
Linux_GaloreBrydenn33: so no you havent done the first step yet04:41
intelikeyDarkkish i started to say it's because "your head's empty, your breath stinks, and your mama dresses you funny"  but desided that might insult you.     so i wont say it.  :)04:41
Brydenn33Linux_Galore: dont talk to me like i'm a fuckn kid04:41
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Linux_GaloreBrydenn33: do the first step and then come back when you are stuck on a specific issue04:41
Brydenn33i did ya moron04:42
Hawkwind!language04:42
Brydenn33how do you think i found the driver?04:42
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:42
Brydenn33guessed the URL?04:42
Linux_GaloreBrydenn33: and at what part are you stuck04:42
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Linux_GaloreBrydenn33: we cant read your mind04:42
Brydenn33well i'd first like to know if i even have to bother with that stuff04:42
muhammedwhere can i see the different channels on this server?04:42
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Brydenn33like is my card already installed?04:42
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Brydenn33how do i tell?04:42
Brydenn33cuz i have my cable connection already. but i'd like to be able to jump onto some local networks and WiFi04:43
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ruisui think you should use zero conf..not?04:43
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intelikey!wifi | Brydenn3304:44
ubotuBrydenn33: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:44
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Brydenn33oh, nice. thanks intelikey04:44
Brydenn33i'll read that really quick04:45
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intelikeyBrydenn33 i dont' have any wifi so i really don't know if that will help you or not.   just doing what i can....04:45
Brydenn33ya, thanks04:46
Brydenn33some try to help. others just talk smack04:46
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Brydenn33lol ya but i mean the kinda smack that doesnt help people. like they think you're an idiot or something04:46
Brydenn33when i help people i'm not a cock04:46
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intelikey:)04:47
Brydenn33<coughs... Linux_Galore>04:47
Brydenn33hehe04:47
HawkwindBrydenn33: That's enough04:47
ruisuok, so, -- off topic-- nobody knows how to activate direct rendering?04:47
Brydenn33haha04:47
Brydenn33np Hawkwind04:47
HawkwindThank you04:47
Brydenn33ok so intelikey helped me a little i think04:47
Hawkwindruisu: Have you installed the drivers for your video card ?04:48
Brydenn33i went to network settings and see that my wireless network card is working04:48
intelikey!nv | ruisu04:48
uboturuisu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:48
intelikeyBrydenn33 i'm network illiterate.   i can call bot nodes for you but that's about it.04:49
intelikeynow bash on the other hand.......04:49
Brydenn33lol hey whatever works man ;)04:49
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TheSJBcan someone tell me what is missing here? http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/22725304:50
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HawkwindTheSJB: kernel-headers04:50
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intelikeyand possably build-essential also04:51
Kiongkuyo Hawkwind04:51
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muhammedwhere can i chance the settings that konquerer always start to browse if i drop a link04:52
muhammed??04:52
lainprolianthi everyone :)04:53
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lainproliantI have a question in context of KDE Input actions04:53
lainproliantI have a program (m300bl, written to change my Armada M300's brightness depending upon commandline parameters) that i want to map to SHIFT+CTRL+{F10,F9}04:54
lainproliantbut m300bl needs root in order to perform the low level system calls it has to do04:54
intelikeyi play a game from time to time.  chess or this old c64 game ported to dos ran in dosemu 'red storm rising'  or even kspace duel  if the kids are here....     anyone  recommend another good game that requires little to no graphics but is complex enough to interest a chess player ?04:54
lainprolianthow can i give it temporary root?  sudo seems not to work04:55
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intelikeysudo04:55
lainproliantit seems not to work though04:55
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nikkunlainproliant: su - i bleive04:55
intelikeykdesu04:55
lainprolianthmm04:56
lainproliantis there any alternative that wouldn't prompt me for a password each time?04:56
intelikeykdesu is kde's way of using sudo04:56
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lainprolianthmm04:56
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nikkunit works for programs that oppen an xwindow04:56
lainproliantagreed, but this is a very simple C program04:56
intelikeylainproliant you don't need an alternative just setup the /etc/sudoers to do that passwordlessly04:56
lainproliantoh okies04:57
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intelikeylainproliant also you could just make the app suid04:57
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lainproliantokies i will try both of those examples ^_^04:57
TheSJBthere are only 2.4.27-2-386 kernel-headers but i have the kernel 2.6.15-27-386, is it okay?04:57
intelikeybut then anyone could run it from anywhere....  (assuming access)04:58
nikkunum no04:58
nikkunthere are kernel headers04:58
nikkunsudo apt-get isntall linux-386-header i believe04:58
bobbyyuI'm setting up fstab to share a mount point. This is what I have. Yet the shell tells me there is an error.04:58
Jucatolinux-header-xxx04:58
bobbyyuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28999/04:58
intelikeyTheSJB you don't have kernel-2.6*    you have linux-2.6*   look for   linux-headers-*04:58
TheSJBokay ;-)04:59
TheSJB<- nap04:59
nikkuncan you mount a sambaFS at boot?04:59
intelikeyTheSJB nomanclature change from 2.4 to 2.6 linux kernels05:00
bobbyyuNikkun are you addressing me?05:00
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nikkunno im adressing anyone05:00
shadowr3dhawkwind05:00
nikkunbobbyyu: i dont think you can mount samba in fstab unless samba is runing05:00
shadowr3dhello05:00
bobbyyuHow do I run Samba?05:01
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nikkunwell can you mount it when your in KDE?05:01
bobbyyuI've yet to try05:01
nikkunyou should try there first05:01
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shadowr3d#wine05:02
bobbyyuThat is why I put the paste line05:02
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intelikeybobbyyu samba requires  //05:02
bobbyyuI know. That's what I added05:02
bobbyyu(Refer to the paste link)05:03
bobbyyuOh shit. My bad05:03
softmasterwhere can i get good repositories for edgy?05:03
bobbyyuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29001/05:03
bobbyyuThere, that should do it05:03
nikkunsoftmaster: uncomment the extra repos in sources.list05:04
intelikeyalso all the extra " are useless.  just quote the full path.  "//this is/where it/lives"05:04
softmastermy problem is that i upgrafef from dapper to edgy05:04
softmaster* upgraded05:05
softmasterand my repos is for dapper05:05
nikkunsoftmaster: are you missing base repos?05:05
softmasterno i had problems installing mp3 support for amarok05:05
bobbyyuintelikey: you mean the share name or the media name?05:05
nikkunsoftmaster: one sec05:06
softmasterwhat is base repos05:06
intelikeybobbyyu both,  might also want to add "noauto" to the options.05:06
softmasteris it different from dapper05:06
bobbyyuas in -noauto at the end of the line?05:06
Jucatosoftmaster: to be able to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy, you had to modify your sources.list/repositories from dapper to edgy05:07
nikkunsoftmaster: try these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29002/05:07
intelikeyno with the uid=1000,noauto,05:07
bobbyyuWhy?05:07
intelikeyprevent error messages on boot and possably long boot time if the share is not mountable when the mount -a call is made.05:08
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shadowr3d_ubotu sex05:10
shadowr3d_aww man05:10
shadowr3d_sorry05:10
shadowr3d_that was my sister05:10
shadowr3d_ubotu05:10
shadowr3d_how do u use that bot05:10
shadowr3d_i forgot05:10
shadowr3d_uboutu05:10
Jucatoshadowr3d_: you can PM it05:10
intelikeyssshhh don't tell05:10
softmasterok05:11
softmasterthanks05:11
Jucatointelikey: better than flooding here :)05:11
intelikeyyeah  i was hopping that would become old had really quick and he'd give up.05:12
intelikey:)05:12
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muahhahahhahaha05:12
muahhahahblah blah blah05:12
bobbyyuSo what are your recommendations?05:13
muahhahahlinux is a piece of garbage05:13
Jucatomuahhahah: please don't spam/flood. thanks05:13
bobbyyuThe shell still says that line is still bad05:13
intelikeyis changing the nick supposed to hid you ?05:13
intelikey-:- shadowr3d_ is now known as muahhahah05:13
intelikey<muahhahah> hahaha05:13
muahhahahhuh05:13
muahhahahno05:13
intelikeyjust wondered.05:13
Kiongku!rsync05:13
ubotursync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.8-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 472 kB05:13
muahhahahim eating but my sister is trying to get me kicked out of this server05:13
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muahhahahim not doing it05:14
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esaymi love linux05:14
Tuxutugsalut05:14
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intelikeyso ruin her day/night and just /exit05:14
muahhahahesaym linux sucks05:14
muahhahahi will05:14
intelikeyshe'll hate that.05:14
muahhahahhahaha05:14
muahhahahyeah05:14
muahhahahok05:14
muahhahahbye bye05:14
muahhahahfds05:15
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intelikeyesaym   wow ?05:16
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intelikeyfirst time meeting a real troll ?05:16
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[GuS] buenas..05:16
esaymwow at muahhahah05:17
esaymalso, i know this is noob as hell but intelikey how did you make that response like that?05:18
intelikeyyour irc client watches for your nick05:18
intelikeyesaym05:18
intelikeysee05:18
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Jucato??05:18
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bobbyyuSo can someone please help?05:19
intelikeyJucato it's a guess but a very well educated one.05:19
esaymhmm, i guess. i never caught it before i guess05:19
esaymthanks anyway ;)05:19
intelikeyesaym np05:20
intelikeyguess as to what exactly "how did you make that response like that?"  was refering too    not guess as to the answer i gave.05:21
intelikeybobbyyu where are you now?  what error are you getting ?05:22
redtricyclewhat's the console command to move to trash?05:22
bobbyyuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29001/05:22
bobbyyuLine 13 is bad05:22
bobbyyupaste mistake05:22
intelikeyredtricycle mv05:23
bobbyyuIt says Line 13 is bad05:23
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intelikeybobbyyu k05:23
bobbyyuWhich is the line I showed you05:23
redtricycleOh, I just gotta move it to the trash folder then...05:23
Jucatoredtricycle: once you delete (rm) a file in the command line, it's gone forever...05:23
redtricyclethanks intelikey05:23
intelikeybobbyyu   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29001/   only has one line.05:24
intelikeyredtricycle yes.  welcome.05:24
bobbyyuSo that's not good? I need to spread it over a few lines more?05:24
intelikeybobbyyu no i might have missread "<bobbyyu> Line 13 is bad"  was expecting a pastebin with 13+ lines05:25
intelikeybobbyyu is it just me or is the device/mountpoint in backwards order in your fstab line ???05:26
intelikeydevice mountpoint fstype options 0 005:27
bobbyyuBy device, what do you mean? Server name/server share or /medianame/media share?05:27
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intelikeybobbyyu is there a dir. named  /media/sda1/"Documents and Settings"/"Bobby Yu"/"My Documents"      in your /media/ dir ?05:29
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xsachathanks, lol05:30
bobbyyuThat's correct (without the quotes)05:30
dragonflysevenHelp please: I am having trouble with unzipping a .rar. When I click on it, the launch icon for ark starts, but ark never opens. If I say sudo ark in the terminal it says that it had a communication problem, and that ark probably crashed. Ark is still listed in processes, but if I kill it, the same thing happens next time.05:30
intelikeyxsacha you a samba pro ?05:30
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intelikeyjucato ?05:31
Jucatohuh?05:31
intelikeyyou a samba pro ?05:31
Jucatonope :)05:31
JucatoI have nothing to network yet :)05:32
unix_infidelintelikey: just ask the question :P05:32
intelikeyunix_infidel are you ?05:32
unix_infideli know OF samba :P05:32
intelikeyunix_infidel bobbyyu has been asking.  i've done about all i can do with the    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29001/plain/05:33
KiongkuJucato: how big is ur linux partition :P?05:33
intelikeyoooh ask me ask me.....05:33
JucatoKiongku: which one? :P05:33
unix_infidelintelikey: so what's the problem?05:34
intelikeyunix_infidel ask bobbyyu05:34
bobbyyuI'm trying to share my Windows mounts05:34
bobbyyuI configured everything in System settings05:34
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unix_infidelyou can share windows to windows using that same netbios name and path?05:35
KiongkuJucato: the one containing ur os lol05:35
bobbyyuBut when I try to reach those shares in my other computer, it's password protected05:35
bobbyyuI know, infidel, but I want to keep sharing when I'm on the Linux OS05:36
bobbyyuIt's just my preference05:36
bobbyyuAnd it's a convenience05:36
unix_infidelbobbyyu: nono, i asked CAN you when you're between windows and windows.05:36
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JucatoKiongku: 500MB /boot, 9GB /, 35GB /home05:36
bobbyyuYes, I can share05:36
bobbyyuon Windows05:36
intelikeyKiongku i wish you would have asked me....05:36
Kiongkuintelikey: sure i ask u :p05:37
unix_infidelbobbyyu: sometimes you need to change the uid on the binary for smbmount.05:37
intelikeyKiongku i don't have a linux partition.  ;b05:37
intelikeylol05:37
Kiongkuintelikey: xD05:37
unix_infidelbobbyyu: try issuing the command for the share mount as root, and see if you can access it.05:37
KiongkuJucato: so to upgrade to egdy u formatted only the / partition?05:37
intelikeyyeah05:37
bobbyyuHow do I do that?05:38
intelikeyi'm not Jucato but that's the answer.05:38
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Kiongkuintelikey: lol.. if u dunt have linux partition.. what do u have?05:38
JucatoKiongku: er no. because I repartitioned everything. made a total overhaul of my setup :)05:38
intelikeya linux fs05:38
JucatoKiongku: but technically, yes, you only format /boot and /05:38
intelikeyor exactly and ext2fs05:38
KiongkuJucato: duh... u know i am burning my 15 th dvd since yesterday and i'm not rdy yet to make the move lol..05:38
Jucatolol :)05:39
Kiongku*fs*?05:39
Jucatofs = filesystem05:39
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intelikeyfs = file system05:39
Jucatofstab = filesystem table, not file stab :P05:39
Kiongkuduh think my burner wil burn.. 15/16 dvds good.. the last one k3b hanged up05:39
bobbyyuunix_infidel: I'm sorry, but how can I share the mount as root?05:39
xsachait's not file stab? DAMN that changes my entire view of fstab05:40
unix_infidelbobbyyu: its just to check things are kosher with the uid's issued so that normal user can use it without pass.05:40
Kiongkuk3b hanged up on 97%... grr05:40
unix_infidelbobbyyu: just issue the mount command with those params as root.05:40
BluesKajany bugfixes in for the screensaver yet?05:40
Jucatoyay! compiled my first C program using gcc :P (Hello world!)05:40
Kiongkuhahaha05:40
Kiongkusay hello kubuntu lol05:40
intelikeyfail safe tab05:40
Jucatointelikey: :P05:41
intelikey:)05:41
JucatoKiongku: you're right. how silly of me :)05:41
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Kiongku:P05:41
Jucato"Hello, Kubuntu Edgy!"05:41
dragonflysevenHelp please: I am having trouble with unzipping a .rar. When I click on it, the launch icon for ark starts, but ark never opens. If I say sudo ark in the terminal it says that it had a communication problem, and that ark probably crashed. Ark is still listed in processes, but if I kill it, the same thing happens next time.05:41
Kiongkuanyone apart Hawkwind using e17?05:41
Kiongkuhmm .rar05:41
KiongkuARk supposed to be able to read that o.O?05:42
intelikeydragonflyseven unrarfree05:42
bobbyyuWait, I need to restart my computer.05:42
Jucatodragonflyseven: have you installed unrar or unrar-free?05:42
Kiongkuya.. need to add something05:42
Jucatointelikey: unrar or unrar-free, to be exact :P05:42
intelikeyunrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files05:42
dragonflysevenJust a second... Looking.05:42
unix_infidelrestart? wtf?05:42
Kiongkui remember that ARK could not do it by default05:42
Jucatointelikey: unrar-free doesn't support the latest RAR versions, iirc05:42
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Kiongkuhmm05:43
intelikeyJucato i did a q unrar cause i couldn't remember if it had a dash or not....05:43
Jucatounrar was formerly known as unrar-nonfree05:43
intelikeyyou beet me to it.05:43
Kiongkubeet? beetroot?05:43
Jucatolol05:43
intelikeyi'm not root05:43
JucatoI promised intelikey to ignore his typos :)05:43
intelikeyHEY, I'M NOT ROOT !05:43
Kiongkuhaha05:43
Jucatoat least this time I kept that promise :)05:43
Kiongkuok ur a stem :P05:43
Jucato(he's a weed...)05:44
Kiongkuif not u can be a branch or a leaf05:44
intelikeylol05:44
Kiongkulol Jucato hit bull eye's05:44
intelikeyyou guys.....05:44
Jucatook... going back on topic...05:44
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Jucatospeaking of which, I haven't installed rar/unrar myself... lol05:44
intelikeyQ; you know the differance between a duck05:44
Kiongkuintelikey: ._. ... k.. intelikey is a person end of discussion..05:45
dragonflysevenNo I haden't. Thanks guys.05:45
intelikeyA; one leg is both the same05:45
Jucatointelikey: the difference between a duck and a what?05:45
intelikey i like that one.05:45
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intelikeygeeks generally get it.  but hate to say so cause it denotes them as geeks....05:46
Kiongkulisten to that.. A duck goes from Mr A's house to Mr B's House.. during the route the ducks lays an egg.. who owns the egg?05:46
intelikeythe duck05:46
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Jucato...05:47
Jucatowe seriously need someone to ask a support question...05:47
Kiongkuwhy the duck? why not Mr A since Mr A owns the duck.. so the egg is also for Mr A :P?05:47
intelikeylol05:47
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BluesKajnot if Mr B gets there first :)05:47
intelikey@ Jucato05:47
Kiongkuhahaha05:47
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JucatoKiongku: you never said that Mr. A owned the duck05:48
Jucatoyou only said that the duck goes from Mr. A's house05:48
KiongkuJucato: got me "pwned"..05:48
intelikeynor that B was buying the duck.....05:48
Jucato:P05:48
BluesKajassumptions05:48
dragonflysevenjucato: how about you help me set up samba so i can print to a printer that is connected to a windows xp computer on this network.05:48
intelikeyass-u-me nothing05:48
Jucatodragonflyseven: I would if I could. I don't have anything to network so I haven't played with samba at all...05:48
Jucatooh wait, I did play with samba. and it was a total disaster05:48
Kiongkuhurray for those owning only 1 pcs.. in life05:49
intelikey:)05:49
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dragonflysevenIt is really irritating me.05:49
intelikeyi counted mmmmm 8 here the other day.05:49
dragonflysevenI have done it before, but I cant remember how.05:49
Kiongku8?05:49
intelikeyyeah05:49
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Jucato8 PC's05:49
Kiongkuwhere o.O05:49
intelikeyyeah05:49
Kiongku"itnelikey's house"???05:49
Kiongku*intelikey05:50
intelikeyitnelikey    hmmmmmmm05:50
dragonflysevenThat is a lot. How do I get my computer to recognize our workgroup?05:50
intelikeyhmmmmm05:50
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Kiongkuhmmmmmmmmm05:50
BluesKajdragonflyseven, do you have the cups unix chosen in the sys/settings/printers/05:50
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itnelikeyclone05:50
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dragonflysevenlooking...05:51
intelikeyclown05:51
intelikey:)05:51
itnelikeybogus05:51
itnelikeydoppleganger..05:51
intelikey8*{   i hope he's out of five dollar words.......05:52
ZestyHello, I'm having some fun trying to compile c++ with g++, I think it might be library linking issues, but what would be wrong, I set up an extremely elementary example to test with (which would definitely compile) but I'm receiving the following : '/tmp/ccKXgGza.o: In function `main':main.cpp:(.text+0x50): undefined reference to `test::echo(std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >)'05:52
Zestycollect2: ld returned 1 exit status'05:52
intelikey!b-e05:53
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:53
dragonflysevenblues: I don't even have a settings folder. What does that mean?05:53
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BluesKajSYSTEM SETTINGS in the k-menu05:54
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intelikeydragonflyseven i think menu>system>settings>printer is what was meant.05:54
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intelikeyyeah that05:54
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dragonflysevenOh, sorry. I was looking in folders.05:54
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intelikeyyeah the sys/  threw me too for a sec05:55
Zestyintelikey, what am I looking for on that link?05:55
bobbyyuThere. I'm back05:55
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ZestySeems like elementary compiling tips rather than any specific trouble shooting05:55
intelikeyZesty ah build-essential ?05:56
dragonflysevenOk, this looks useful, but I need to get on my network/ workgroup.05:56
bobbyyuIs there a utility that will mount points such that it'll change the partitions to write mode?05:56
ZestyInstalled that earlier, still no joy intelikey05:56
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dragonflysevenIt doesn't recognize that there is a network. (CUPS is enabled)05:56
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bobbyyuWhen i share, I want to be able for the other computer to write (ie add files) to this computer05:56
Zerb_Risshmmm05:57
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Zesty'build-essential is already the newest version.'05:57
intelikeybobbyyu fstab changes your access.....   or mount -o remount,<options-here> /mount/point.....05:57
Zerb_Rissneed some help, I just updated to Edgy and X won't run automatically05:57
intelikeyZesty ok.  let me revisit your post....05:58
itnelikeybobbyyu: dunt think windows like ext3 system05:58
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dragonflysevenSo how do I get my network running.05:59
dragonflysevenMy router recognizes my computer, but my computer won't recognize the network.05:59
mefisto_I have an audio problem. I just installed kubuntu and am no longer hearing any sound. I have two sound cards, and have no idea how to set things up so sound is played thru the right one. At the moment Kmix is showing the wrong sound card every time I log in.05:59
nikkunmefisto: in the System Settings under sound System goto hardware ad there you should be able to select the card06:00
mefisto_you mean sound & multimedia?06:01
nikkunyah06:01
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mefisto_there's only alsa, oss, etc as device choices06:01
nikkuntry the one under that06:02
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intelikeyZesty idk.   ***undefined reference to....***  is either librarry or makefile error     i don't know.  i think there is a #gcc  or other channels   also  ##linux  might help.    if no one in here can pinpoint that.06:02
Zerb_RissI don't know what to do :(06:03
mefisto_the one under what?06:03
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BluesKajyeah dragonflyseven, i have the same problem ...komba2 sees the network and the files but I can't access since windows doesn't see the linux pc06:03
nikkunin the lower section (btw its just a guess)06:03
Zestyintelikey, it's much more specific to kubuntu, compiles fine on other distro's such as gentoo, debian and slackware06:04
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mefisto_there's a place to type in "override device location". is there something I can put there?06:04
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Zestymefisto_, you can specify the audio hardware to use through kmix06:05
intelikeyyes, ok. Zesty but that only narrows it to a librarry issue.  doesn't help me help you any.  sorry.     (and just a note. i'm not even part of the "team" here)06:05
intelikeyi answer questions as i can but that and using their 'twisted' distro is as far as me and *buntu go.06:06
mefisto_Zesty: I can change it in kmix, but no sound is coming thru the soundcard. I need to route the sound system to the right card first I think06:06
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intelikeyplug speaker into other card and see06:07
intelikey:)06:07
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Zerb_Risshow do I troubleshoot X problems?06:08
mefisto_yes but I want sound thru the good card06:08
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mefisto_it worked fine in livecd before I installed06:08
NapaGood morning!  Why do I get access denied when I try to save some files to my exsisting win-drive E:\ ?06:08
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BluesKajthe kmix switch settings , they were set to digital for some reason06:09
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KiongkuNapa: bcoz linux does not support ntfs06:09
intelikeyread .xsession*error* Zerb_Riss for starters06:09
Napakiongku: but I think it's fat3206:09
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intelikeyZerb_Riss if you do startx in a console what does it exit with ?06:10
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KiongkuNapa: check it06:10
Zerb_Rissintelikey, nothing, it starts X06:10
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intelikeyZerb_Riss the what makes you think there is an X problem ?06:10
NapaKiongku:  There isn't a CHKMOD command I could use to get more access ?06:10
Zerb_Rissintelikey, it's weird, if I let the computer sit for about ten minutes, it tries to start x, then just exits back to the command line06:10
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Zerb_Rissintelikey, I hit Ctrl+Alt+F7 and get a black screen06:11
Kiongkuhmm06:11
intelikeyand startx starts X without error ?06:11
Kiongkuno idea06:11
Zerb_Rissintelikey, yes06:11
Zerb_RissI think I'm going to reinstall dapper and try the upgrade again06:12
intelikeythat's an *dm problem i'd think06:12
Kiongkunever accessed my win drive so.. dunt have any experience in it06:12
Napaok06:12
Kiongkubut why is it fat32?..06:12
intelikeyZerb_Riss which ?dm are you using kdm ?06:12
Kiongkuu changed it?06:12
Zerb_Rissintelikey, yes06:12
Napamaybe I'm wrong06:12
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intelikeysudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm06:13
manohi06:13
dragonflysevenHow do I get on my windows network?06:13
intelikeyNapa access to what ?06:13
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intelikeydragonflyseven samba  but that's all i know about that.06:14
intelikey!samba06:14
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:14
arejayteecan i resize a partition from within kubuntu so i can install xp onto the extra space?06:14
intelikeyarejaytee not a mounted one.06:15
dragonflysevenintelikey: thanks, I will try rtfming for a while then. :)06:15
Napaintelikey: I have a 250 gb harddrive .. originally partioned in 3 parts .. one part with win xp, and two parts for games, utilities , mp3, video etc ... - I made one new part for my kubuntu ... But I only made the new one 10 gb large .. that's why I want to download files to one of my other "drives"06:15
intelikeyand resizing is always dangerous. @ arejaytee06:15
arejayteei dont particular want to format the hd and start fresh and get kubuntu back to how it is now06:16
intelikeyNapa ok what fs are the others ntfs ?06:16
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intelikeyarejaytee i stand under you.  resize is a better choice.  try the live cd06:17
intelikeyor a knoppix cd06:17
arejayteegood idea06:18
Napaintelikey: yes I guess they are .... I thought they maybe are Fat32 but I were wrong06:18
intelikeyNapa other partition is ??????? ntfs ?06:18
intelikeyah ok06:18
intelikey!ntfs | napa06:19
ubotunapa: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse06:19
Napaand those partitions are read only at tje moment06:19
intelikeynapa yes the options in the fstab can permanantly change that.06:19
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Napahow do I get fstab working ?06:21
NapaI have to install some packages maybe?06:21
intelikeynapa no fstab (the file system table) is working.  you edit /etc/fstab..... to give you a rough idea; /dev/hda2 /media/storage ntfs dmask=000,fmask=111,users,user 0 006:22
Napagksudo gedit /etc/fstab06:22
intelikeyyes.06:22
intelikeyor kedit06:22
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intelikeyor kdesu kate /etc/fstab06:22
intelikeydepends on the basic installation.....06:22
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intelikeyif you installed kubuntu use   kdesu kate /etc/fstab    if you installed ubuntu   gksudo gedit /etc/fstab06:23
Napaok sda2 ntfs sda3 ntfs and sd4 ntfs06:23
pc22 anyone suggest the cheapest way to call the US?06:23
Napapc22: skype :p06:23
intelikeyyeap prolly 3 and 4 are the ones you want.06:23
pc22other than skype hehehe06:24
Napaintelikey:  that's correct06:24
Napapc22: Broadband-telecom ;)06:24
arejayteegizmo pc22,06:24
intelikeyNapa also if you want to add a little security to your xp installation you could remove the line that mounts it   prolly sda206:24
arejayteesign up and add the number u want to call into your home phone number, then call your id/home number and it will do it over the internet for free06:25
intelikeyseeing that ntfs is not fully supported in linux06:25
Napaintelikey: but I want to be able to use the partition in both windows and linux06:25
Zerb_Rissintelikey, dpkg-reconfigure kdm had no effect06:25
intelikeyNapa "but I want to be able to use the partition"  which ?   sda2 sda3 sda5 ?06:26
Napaintelikey: all of them06:26
intelikeyZerb_Riss been messing around in the config for kdm ?06:26
NapaI have 30 gb free in sda2 , 20 gb free in sda3, and 40 or something in sfa506:26
Zerb_Rissintelikey, no, this is straight off of an Dapper->Edgy upgrade06:26
intelikeyNapa then use them.   i only sujested not using the one with xp installed on it.... doesn't matter to me......06:27
Napaintelikey: My wish was that I could directly make a "download" directory from LinuxDc++ in e.g sda3 ....06:27
intelikeyNapa you can.06:27
intelikeyadd the fmask and dmask i showed you.06:28
NapaI won't destroy anything?06:28
arejayteeanyone know of a tut to dual boot fomr linux, lol all tuts are from windows to add linux lol06:28
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intelikeyNapa that i will not promice06:28
TehKewl1hey.... why arent they shipping edgy? >:(06:28
Napahehe06:28
arejayteeisnt it RC TehKewl106:29
intelikeytehkewl1  are they not ?06:29
NapaI guess I better wait then ..... or buy an other harddrive to use in Linux06:29
TehKewl1not free06:29
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Napathey are not expensive ... guess I'll gett 200 GB for 100$ or so06:30
Zerb_Rissintelikey, ah well, It'll take less time to reinstall Dapper and upgrade than this is taking  :)06:30
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intelikeyNapa why not move everything from one partition to the other and remake the empty as vfat then move back what you want both to access.....  just a thought.06:30
TehKewl1I meant the CD's are not free06:30
intelikeyZerb_Riss why not just install edgy streight..... ?06:31
Zerb_Rissintelikey, don't have any blank CDs06:31
intelikeyoh kay.06:31
TehKewl1I have a 64k internet connection.... it's been capped06:32
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Napaintelikey: yes that is also one possibility ...  I did not know it was possible to reconfigure the medias .. So I thought I had to remove anything from D:\ to be able to make one partition for the linux OS ... but I found an utility that did the work for me :)06:32
intelikeyD:\ ????     hehhe06:33
BluesKajI gave windows 90G amd kubuntu 60G on my drive and there's plenty of room ...i might even use Gparted to downsize the ntfs and enlarge ext3 to 80 or 9006:33
Napasda3 :p06:33
TehKewl1:O DRIVE LETTERS06:33
Napamuch easier to say D:\   ... This is my third day on linux ;)06:33
TehKewl1run for it06:33
Napaand i'm starting to understand hwo everything works ... I love google :p and wiki's :p06:34
BluesKajnow that mostly everything that counts works on Edgy i may consider dropping in a small 40g HDD just for windows06:34
intelikeyBluesKaj i like a root partition (if i used partitions) of about 6g  and a home of around 20g /var of about 4g   and if space is plentious maybe /media of about 40g06:35
NapaIs the newest version of kubuntu much different than the one I have (6.06)06:35
Napais 6.10 stable or should I wait a month or two before I upgrade?06:36
BluesKajright intelikey, that sounds cool06:36
intelikeyNapa 6.6 is LTS 6.10 is the first release of the full rewrite     (so to speak)06:36
intelikey!lts06:36
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.06:36
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Napaintelikey: I got 10 cds of 6.06 shipped here :)06:37
intelikeylts would assumedly be the more stable of the releases because they will continue to fix things reported......06:37
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NapaIs it allowed selling a copy to frinds and family? making profit on'em ;) ?06:38
intelikeythat is an assumption  we will see how it turns out in reality....06:38
TehKewl1Napa..... I wouldnt06:38
intelikeyNapa there is a license agreement read it.... short answer  yes.06:38
KiongkuNapa: yah.. for a clear conscience06:38
NapaThere was a geek at qxl.no selling copies online .... 10$ a piece06:39
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stacyhello room06:39
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Kiongkubut they will find out they were cheated soon enough though :p06:39
intelikeyroom..... this is not aol.....06:39
Napalol06:39
Kiongkuthsi is a channel06:39
stacysorry i didnt mean to offend i am seriously new to this i just got linux this month and havent learned everything yet06:40
intelikeyNapa some would gladly pay a little to save the trubble of dl'ing on someone else's box and burning to disk....06:40
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intelikeydepends on the inet06:40
BluesKajlotta ppl still use the word room , and they aren't on aol06:41
intelikey* access06:41
Zerb_Risswhat is the appropriate way to upgrade Kubuntu to Edgy?06:41
intelikey!upgrade06:41
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)06:41
Zerb_Risshah thanks, I should have known06:41
Kiongkuomg 955 nicks in #ubuntu06:42
BluesKajheh06:42
intelikeyZerb_Riss it's not that we like to say 'rtgm' it's that we hate to type the same instructions day after day06:42
K`zanAh, started to install ubuntu (amd64) and got to the pick partition and it doesn't seem to see / accept my selection for the root partition( free partition /dev/sda12 on my working drive)  help?06:42
K`zan"No root file system"  but I have sda12 set up for "/"06:43
Zerb_Rissintelikey, I know I hang out in here quite a bit.. so my text really meant I should have known better as opposed to thanks, sherlock06:43
stacyi just got ubuntu and i need help with the paths to install new software programs to my system can anyone help me out06:43
intelikeyah  k06:43
K`zanLet me guess, ubuntu has to have a primary partition only like m$ stuff?06:44
intelikey!packages06:44
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!06:44
intelikey!repos06:44
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:44
intelikeystacy both   ^06:44
Zerb_Risstacy, what kinds of things do you want to install?06:45
Zerb_Rissstacy, ^^06:45
stacymacromedia flashplayer for one06:46
intelikeyK`zan no.  linux doesn't need primary  doesn't actually need a partition.  but partition numbers above 8 on the install cd may cause problems....06:46
Zerb_Rissyou'll probably want flash player 9 beta06:46
Zerb_Riss!flash06:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:46
Zerb_Risshmm06:46
stacyi have downloaded it but it wont allow me to install it from the download06:46
Zerb_Rissstacy, where did you get it?06:46
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stacyoff of the adobe website06:46
Kiongkunope06:47
Kiongkuuse adept06:47
Zerb_Rissstacy, it's flash player 9 beta for linux installer?06:47
stacyoh thanks so much06:47
intelikeybeta06:47
Zerb_Rissflash 9 beta isn't in Adept06:47
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stacyand where can i go to get this06:47
Kiongku!flash906:48
ubotuFlash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html06:48
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stacythanks so much for helping out06:48
Kiongkuneed to tweak the repos sources..06:48
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stacyim getting it now06:49
intelikeycaution !   using beta software  when you are new to a system can sour you.   you may have trubble that you assume is the os when in fact the beta soft may be buggy.06:49
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Zerb_Rissbe aware that unofficial repositories can cause a number of problems if they are not from trusted sources06:49
Kiongkuyeah for intelikey's timely warnings :P06:49
stacyok ill be mindful of that06:49
intelikeynot knowing enough to tell the differance is a good reason to stay away from betas06:49
Kiongkuwell did try the beta adn kinda buggy with ff06:50
Zerb_Rissunfortunately, there isn't really a choice if you want working Flash in Linux06:50
Zerb_RissI haven't had any trouble with it06:50
Kiongkuwell dunno.. what ff u using?06:50
Zerb_Riss2.006:50
Kiongku1.5 here..06:50
intelikeyZerb_Riss yes but others have.... that's why i mentioned it.06:50
Zerb_Rissbah get with the times man :)06:50
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Kiongkuhaha i will06:50
TehKewl1is 2.0 in the repository yet?06:51
Kiongkubut wait i get to edgy first06:51
Zerb_Rissintelikey, no problem mentioning it :) I'm just saying that there is no way to get many Flash sites working in Linux without it06:51
Zerb_RissTehKewl1, it's in Edgy but not Dapper, iirc06:51
intelikeyyeah but flash is evil anyway.06:51
Zerb_Rissyah06:51
TehKewl1so much for long term support06:51
Zerb_Rissunfortunately, it's just a part of the web these days06:51
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stacyok it has brought up a screen saying open files , available applications and recent applications with remove cancel and open in it what would i type into the application prompt06:52
Zerb_RissTehKewl1, it will probably be rolled out in the next security updates06:52
KiongkuTehKewl1: it is long term support.. 1.5 is mroe stable06:52
TehKewl1whats the edgy repo url?06:52
Zerb_Rissintelikey, most movies websites as well as music artists websites are built in Flash 8+06:52
BluesKajya don't have to like it, but ya have to live with evil.06:52
intelikeyi didn't stutter.06:52
Kiongkuthink u just replace all dapper with edgy in the sources.list?06:52
nikkunsomething about flashplayer?06:53
intelikeyi don't have to use it. BluesKaj06:53
stacyim really lost here i know nothing of installing programs06:53
nikkundo people not know the Flashplayer 9 beta is out now06:53
Kiongkuwe were talking about that nikkun06:53
arejayteefuck it i think i will start again and just delete everything06:53
nikkunflashplayer 9 works good :)06:54
arejayteeprobably remember what to do better this time lol06:54
Kiongkumine ur language arejaytee06:54
arejayteesoz06:54
Kiongkue/mine/mind06:54
intelikey!repos | stacy06:54
ubotustacy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:54
intelikeyplease read.06:54
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Linux_Galorejust updated to edgy, one problem (if it is actually a problem) is adept updater keeps saying I have to update xorg but then goes and tells me its going to break my system06:57
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irvincan kpresenter open/edit powerpoint files?06:57
Linux_Galorexserver-xorg is intalled fine that 7.1.106:58
Linux_Galoreinstalled*06:58
BluesKajnite all07:00
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intelikeyLinux_Galore dapper seems to be   X Window System Version 7.0.007:01
Linux_Galoreyes I know07:01
Linux_GaloreIve updated dapper to edgy07:01
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Linux_Galoreit all boots up fine then I get stuck on the adept updater on two packages, I have a feeling the xorg package is not needed its talking about debian and etch07:02
intelikeyi'm just saying that it isn't the dapper version so it's prolly a bug fix or something.07:02
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intelikeyah you have a debian repo.07:03
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intelikeyrumove it and do an sudp apt-get update07:03
intelikeyshoud fix it07:03
Linux_Galorehmm Im looking and all I have are ubuntu repo's07:03
intelikeypastebin07:04
intelikeyLinux_Galore pastebin your sources.list07:05
stacywhat other channels can i use with konversation07:05
Linux_Galoreok07:05
stacyjust wondering since this is all so new to me07:05
Linux_Galorehold on let me swap to my other machine07:05
intelikeytens of thousands on this server and thousands of servers07:05
intelikeystacy ^07:05
stacywow07:05
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Linux_Galorehere we go07:06
Linux_Galorewhats the addy for pastbin07:06
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intelikeyi don't advise this,   but generally a   /list   command in the irc client will list all channels on the connected server.07:07
K`zanYeah, that can be a LONG list :-).07:07
intelikeyit's in the toppic Linux_Galore07:07
stacyok07:07
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K`zanWell.... Looks like the 6.10 installer will not let you have an extended partition for root :-(.07:08
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intelikeyK`zan based on what ?07:08
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intelikeyK`zan does it see any of the extended partitions on that drive ?07:09
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stacyok as i have been typing i have also been looking at the repositories page and i have tried what it says to do but it wont allow me to open the adept package manager so what do i do now07:09
dudehello guys07:09
K`zanintelikey: Based on it telling me no root partition selected when /dev/sda12 *IS* selected and labled as "/"...07:09
Linux_Galorehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29010/07:10
stacyit says failed to execute child process kdesu ( no such directory or file07:10
K`zanGoing to try the alternate CD before giving up.07:10
intelikeyK`zan and set to format ?07:10
irvinis anyone using kubuntu? just one quick question -> can kpresenter open/edit powerpoint files?07:10
xsachaK`zan: it let me choose an extended :S07:10
K`zanintelikey: That didn't make any difference either.07:10
intelikeyK`zan what fs type ?  has to be something that supports fid bits07:11
K`zanirvin: OpenOffice will, not always perfectly, but it will.07:11
K`zanintelikey: IIRC it was a reiser partition07:11
irvinK`zan, but can kpresenter open it?07:11
omicron_hi there. i am doing an apt-get dist-upgrade at the moment and always get the following error:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdesdk/libcvsservice0_3.5.5-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  Size mismatch for about 30 packages or so. so I am not able to complete the upgrade. can anyone point me in the right direction to get this working?07:11
K`zanirvin: Never tried that, sorry.07:11
K`zanirvin: Try it ?07:12
intelikeyactually it's dos extended partition labeled what ever and formated to rieserfs... but that's symantic.07:12
irvinK`zan, i wish i could but i'm using xubuntu, i don't want to install kpresenter yet. anyway thanks07:12
K`zanintelikey: I know it works with gentoo with no problem, for whatever that many mean.07:12
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K`zanirvin: Sorry I couldn't be more help.07:12
K`zanmany / may07:13
K`zanAnother 10 minutes for the alternate CD and then I'll burn and try that.07:13
stacywhat exactly is knosole07:14
stacykonsole07:14
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intelikeyLinux_Galore i don't see anything there either.... did you doctor that before you posted it ???  <looks over glasses at Linux_Galore>07:14
intelikeystacy konsole is a linux terminal emulator for the X window system    ~= windows command prompt07:15
stacyoh ok07:16
stacycan that help me to install this flashplayer07:16
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xsachayou can do everything from the konsole07:17
intelikeystacy it can.  it is installed.   menu > system > konsole    (iirc) to get there.07:17
Linux_Galoreintelikey: its incomplete Im removing all the rubbish07:17
Linux_Galoreintelikey: and i will repost07:17
stacyi get it to the extracting point and then i dont get anything else07:17
omicron_I want to upgrade from dapper to edgy, but I get errors about not matching file sizes for about 30 packages. I tried apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing but that does not work either.07:17
intelikeyLinux_Galore k07:17
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stacyit goes into and archive and then extracts from the archive and stops07:18
intelikeystace that sounds like it's asking you to agree to a license and the window is not popping up.  common problem  someone else might know a way to get it too  but i'd say do the install from the console so you can just type yes and continue when asked.07:19
Linux_Galoreintelikey: here we go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29011/07:19
stacyso how would i start the install from konsole07:19
intelikeystacy  command line for that would be something like     sudo dpkg -i filename.deb07:20
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stacythanks07:20
intelikeyassuming it's downloaded to your home.   find the package.  it may be in your home dir or  /var/cache/apt/archives/07:20
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intelikeyand just use that command on it.07:21
stacyits on my desktop07:21
intelikeyyou will have to close adept first.07:21
intelikeyk that ~/Desktop/filename.deb   then07:21
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Linux_Galoreintelikey: I cant see a think wrong, have to look were the package is comming from and disable it07:23
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stacyok07:23
leonrotthi07:23
stacyits says permission denied07:23
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leonrottexcuse me somebody talks in spanish?07:24
stacydisable adept07:25
stacy????07:25
intelikeyno close the application stacy only one package manager can run at a time.07:27
intelikey!es07:27
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.07:27
stacyok cool i did that07:27
intelikeyyou installed it ?07:27
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stacyno i closed adept07:28
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stacyim still trying to install it keeps saying permission denied07:28
bioticproanyone here use k9copy?  I have a problem with a dvd where it crashes when trying to copy it07:28
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intelikeystacy    sudo dpkg -i blah.deb07:29
intelikey!sudo07:30
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:30
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stacyis blah where the file name goes07:30
stacy???07:30
intelikeyyep07:30
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intelikeyand the tab key helps with spelling07:31
intelikeytype part of the name and hit tab07:31
stacycommand not found07:31
stacyis what it said that time07:31
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intelikeybash; sudo; command not found    or  bash; dpkg; command not found  ?07:32
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stacysudo :command not found07:33
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intelikeylook closely at the spelling.  use the tab key.   sud[tab-key]  dpk[tab-key]  -i Desk[tab-key]   .....07:34
stacyok07:34
intelikeyit works wonders on the command line.07:34
intelikeyit you have a new installation of kubuntu and sudo is not installed "i'll eat your hat!"   :)07:35
xsachayeah intelikey, especially useful for long directory names..07:35
E[m] esshi, im getting an error that composite manager crashed twice in a minute and has been clsoed for teh session whenever i switch my WM from kwin to beryl. in beryl, all the window borders disappear and minimised windows show up, and i cant move any of them or use beryl effects, any ideas?07:35
xsachacd drive_c/Pr<tab> and it does Program\ Files/ for me07:35
stacystacy@scarlett:~$ sudo dpkg -i Desktop/FP9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz.deb07:36
stacydpkg: error processing Desktop/FP9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz.deb (--install):07:36
stacy cannot access archive: No such file or directory07:36
stacyErrors were encountered while processing:07:36
stacy Desktop/FP9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz.deb07:36
stacystacy@scarlett:~$07:36
stacythats what i did and what it gave me07:36
intelikeythat's a muffed dl. i'd say.07:36
E[m] essthat error is saying that the download for the deb didnt work and its corrupeted, try seeing if its md5 matches07:37
intelikeywait.   wait.07:37
intelikeyDesktop/FP9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz.deb  did you add the .deb on that ?07:37
intelikeyor is it really there ?07:37
stacyyes07:37
intelikey:)07:37
stacyi added it07:37
intelikeytoo which ?07:37
E[m] essyou added .deb?07:37
intelikeyk07:37
stacyyes07:37
K`zanintelikey: FWIW, writing as fast to the CD as K3B thinks I can does occasionally turn out a CD with problems...07:37
E[m] esstar zxvf Desktop/FP9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz && sudo dpkg -i Desktop/FP9_plugin_beta_101806.deb07:38
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K`zanrunning the verify on the burned CD will tell you about that though...07:38
intelikeythat's the problem  it's not a debian archive.    you don't install tarballs07:38
E[m] essyou need to extract the deb file from the gunzip, its liek a zip fiel witht eh deb inside it07:38
intelikeystacy is there no ubuntu package to be found ?07:38
intelikeyK`zan yes you can burn too fast and hose an installation cd07:39
stacydarn07:39
K`zanintelikey: Thus I restrict it to 8-12x07:39
intelikeyi sujest about 8x max for install disks07:39
E[m] essstacy: untar the file with tar zxvf filename.tar.gz07:40
stacyim trying so hard her ei get alot of web pages i cant see without the flashplayer07:40
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E[m] essand then sudo dpkg -i file.deb07:40
K`zanintelikey: Good idea, had all sorts of problem with the EMC/ubuntu install because of that, at least until I figured out that was the problem :-).07:40
E[m] essif you are trying to isntall flashplayer why not jsut use apt-get?07:40
intelikeyE[m] ess you going to setup the repos too ?07:41
stacystacy@scarlett:~$ tar zxvf Fp9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz07:41
stacytar: Fp9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory07:41
stacytar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now07:41
stacytar: Child returned status 207:41
stacytar: Error exit delayed from previous errors07:41
stacystacy@scarlett:~$07:41
stacythats what i got on that one07:41
E[m] essmake sure your in the right directory for it stacy07:42
intelikeytar -xf Desktop/Fp9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz07:42
K`zanOK got it, got it burned, lets see if the alternate CD will work on sda12...  bbiab07:42
intelikeyit's in stacy's Desktop dir07:43
E[m] essah, ok07:43
stacyyes its on the desktop07:43
E[m] essstacy: you need to change to your desktop, so cd Desktop07:43
E[m] essand then tar zxvf Fp9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz07:44
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intelikeyE[m] ess no.  just prepend the dir/07:44
E[m] essor on your desktop right click it and select extrat to here07:44
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E[m] essor you cand o what intelikey said lol07:44
kazaruhello any one know how to solve the "hw_random: RNG not detected" error during boot?07:44
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intelikeytoo many cooks in the channel spoil the stacy....  i'll  be back another time.07:45
intelikeyluck with it.07:45
stacythanks bunches07:45
E[m] esslater yo~07:45
stacyat least we tried07:46
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E[m] essstacy: you just want flash player right?07:46
stacyi extracted it and it put another folder on the desktop and yes to answer your ? i only want the flashplayer07:47
E[m] essso why are you downloading a deb for it? you have kubuntu right?07:47
stacyyes ubuntu 6.0607:47
stacyi am really new to this and havent installed anything into it yet07:48
E[m] essok, do you have multiverse and universe? or do you not know what i mean?07:48
E[m] essok07:48
stacyno idea what you mean there07:48
stacylol07:48
E[m] essclick on the big k and select system and then adept07:48
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stacyit wont launch adept i tried that earlier07:49
stacyDetails: Failed to execute child process "kdesu" (No such file or directory) this is the error i get07:49
heinkel_111I want to report a  bug in kubuntu (edgy) adept updater, but when i go to kubuntu.org > bugs i get _ubuntu_ bug reporting system. is this the right place to report?07:50
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auroraneed help to install php in kubuntu07:52
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heinkel_111hi aurora07:52
aurorahii07:52
heinkel_111which version of kubuntu are you using?07:52
stacyE[m] ess are you there???07:53
aurorakubuntu 6.06 i38607:53
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aurorai've install apache2 and mysql07:53
heinkel_111have you seen this guide page, written for 6.06 DApper Drake? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP07:53
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heinkel_111i followed these instructions and was able to make it work without much problems07:54
heinkel_111aurora ^07:54
auroraokey07:54
aurorathx.. i'll try it07:55
aurora:D07:55
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srednaHi07:56
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srednaI tried to install kde4base-dev, but I can't. There are some dependencies that prevents it.07:57
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srednaI think I saw somewhere that kubuntu would be a good platform for kde4 development, so much for that :(07:57
os2macok lets try this again....... I am running Kubuntu 6.10 (live cd) on a dell inspiriron 8600 with a Broadcom 4306 wifi NIC07:57
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Linux_Galorehmm07:58
os2macthe NIC gets detected and I can set the ssid and the Key for the WLAN but iwconfig shows access point: invalid07:58
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os2macand when I try to up the nic using "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" I get "SIOCSIFFLAGS:  no such file or directory.07:59
aurorathx heinkel_111 .. its work now :D07:59
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heinkel_111you are welcome :D nice that some of my advice actually works :P08:00
os2maccan anyone help?:08:00
Linux_Galorethis is weird if i type xorg it then says it doesnt exist but Im running an xorg session08:00
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Linux_Galorethis is in edgy after an update from dapper08:01
os2macI can make it work with ndiswrapper but I really don't want to... I have to reconfigure it everytime I update.08:01
os2macI would rather it work straight out of the box08:01
arejayteewhat size partition should i make for kubuntu?, gunna format and start again, partition for windows and 1 for linux and 3rd for data access for both08:01
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Linux_Galoreos2mac: tell the hardware maker its not a linux issue08:02
os2macnot helping....08:02
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arejayteeim thinking 2 5 gig partitions and then the rest for data storage08:03
Linux_Galoreos2mac: of cource not its a hardware maker issue what can we do08:03
Linux_Galorecourse*08:03
os2macit's an issue because broadcom refuses to issue *NIX drivers08:03
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os2macbut supposedly there is a workaround to make it work... but you have to be using a .17 kernel.08:04
flaccidi did a dapper to edgy upgrade. how can i set my theme to the factory default for edgy so it looks like the screenshots?08:04
Linux_Galoreos2mac: always do what openBSD guys do, no driver or hardware info then we wont support your gear full stop08:04
os2macsorry I don't understand?08:04
Linux_Galoreflaccid: under kcontrol ->look and ->feel themes08:05
Linux_Galoreflaccid: under kcontrol ->look and feel ->themes08:05
Jucatoflaccid: System Settings -> Appearance08:05
Linux_Galoreos2mac: openBSD has very good wireless card support but only because they have forced the issue08:05
Linux_Galoreos2mac: not such thing as ndis rubbish in openbsd08:06
os2macok again this isn't helping me fix the problem.08:07
Linux_Galoreos2mac: the down side being it doesnt support as many cards08:07
Linux_Galoreos2mac: we cant help you08:07
os2macgreat...08:08
Linux_Galoreos2mac: imagine your complaining to the solar power makers about the coal burning generators, very little the solar guys can do08:08
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stacy_hello again08:10
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stacy_E[m] ess i am still having no luck at all getting the flashplayer installed can you please help me out08:12
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stacy_how do i become a registered user for this chat08:13
sadistic_kittenuh hi ppl08:14
sadistic_kittenhow would I go about upgrading from dapper to edgy, with-out dled a cd and re-installing?08:14
stacy_hi08:14
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Kiongku!upgrade08:17
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)08:17
Kiongku!edgy | sadistic_kitten08:17
ubotusadistic_kitten: Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)08:17
Kiongkuwhat suit u best08:17
Kiongkubut be rdy for any errors08:18
srednaCan anyone tell me where to find instructions for installing kde4? Apt-get appears to give up!08:18
sadistic_kittenty Kiongku08:19
Kiongkuhmm08:19
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Kiongkuwell anyway the supported version right now is 3.5.5.. so dunt think apt-get will like it08:20
K`zanSuccess!08:20
Jucatosredna: kde4 isn't out yet. unless you want to develop for KDE 4, the kde4 packages that were released for Kubuntu last month is basically useless for end-users08:20
srednaJucato: I freakin' klnow that08:20
K`zanNow, how do I turn this into kubuntu?  apt-get install kde ?08:20
srednaI am a kde developer, Jucato08:21
Kiongkuhey Jucato08:21
Jucatosredna: lol sorry :)08:21
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srednaMy usual way is to compile everything, but I'd like to avoid that08:21
Kiongkuknow a way to compile the current packages installed on adept?08:21
Kiongkui mean compile a list08:21
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Jucatosredna: pardon someone who just got up from bed... :)08:21
srednaSince this box is an old POS08:21
srednaJucato: Np :)08:21
flaccidso which style/theme do i select for kubuntu edgy?08:22
srednaBut if you do know, I'd be happy if you'd tell me, since I'm relatively new to debian08:22
Jucatosredna: this is the only link I have about KDE 4 for Kubuntu: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php08:22
srednaThanks :)08:22
Jucatosredna: and you might have more luck asking in #kubuntu-devel08:22
HomerKDE4 is out?108:22
Kiongkuno homer08:22
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Kiongkuonly dev.08:22
JucatoHomer: no. development packages only08:23
srednaAh, there is such a channel, I did not notice that :\08:23
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Jucatosredna: :)08:23
flaccidhmm don't know what theme edgy uses08:23
Jucatoflaccid: which one exactly?08:23
flaccidthe new one08:23
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K`zaninstall and remove doesn't seem to have kde in it other than kde apps?!?08:24
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JucatoWindeco = Crystal, Colors = kubuntuColors (but it doesn't have a name in Edgy if you upgraded/installed), Style = Plastik08:24
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KiongkuJucato: what does the option save markings used for in synaptic? any idea/08:25
JucatoKiongku: what it's used for?08:25
flaccidi want to use the new theme: http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php?linux_distribution=Kubuntu%206.1008:25
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Kiongkuyah whats the purpose?..08:25
Kiongkui haev no idea what the markings in there means08:25
emonkeyGooooooood morning 3kubuntu08:25
Jucatoflaccid: what else do you need? I gave some of the stuff already08:26
flaccidJucato: the actual theme/style to apply to look like ^^08:26
Jucatoflaccid: Style = Plastik. Kubuntu doesn't make use of .kth stuff08:26
flaccidplastic does not look like the above screenshot08:27
K`zanHow do I turn ubuntu amd64 into kubuntu folks, I had to use the alternate install which there wasn't a kubuntu for and I don't see kde in add/remove - just kde apps ?!?!?!?!???  TIA!08:27
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JucatoKiongku: hold on. I'm looking for an ancient post of mine08:27
flaccidah its Crystal i believe08:28
Jucatoflaccid: that is definitely Plastik (widget Style)08:28
Jucatoflaccid: Crystal is a window deco (if you scroll above)08:28
lnxkdeK`zan:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:28
flaccidbasically for users that upgrade and won't the look of the screenshots... what is needed to change. first thing is crystal window decoration08:28
Jucatoflaccid: ok I'll go over it one by one...08:29
JucatoKiongku: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14140908:29
K`zanlnxkde, Thanks!08:29
lnxkdeK`zan: np08:29
flaccidnow the color of the title bar08:29
stacy_where is the plugin dierctory for firefox found08:29
Jucatoflaccid: Window Decoration: Crystal08:29
lnxkdeflaccid: http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/825/lnxkdekdepd2.png08:29
Jucatoflaccid: Color scheme, the file name is kubuntuColors.kcsrc08:29
stacy_or can i use the konsole program to install plugins08:29
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stacy_????08:30
dude_jucato ! flaccid !08:30
Jucatohi dude_08:30
flaccidheya08:30
Kiongkuhmm not helpful feature in my case08:30
Jucatoflaccid: it should be in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings08:30
flaccidJucato: thanks mate. but how do i get the color scheme08:30
shello i need some help. I've just changed from gnome to kde and i don't know how to activate repositories in kde. please help me08:30
stacy_ok thanks08:30
KiongkuOK.. everybody see ya.. making the hope to edgy.. hope can see everyone back soon08:30
Delph_nzs: you want to apt-get install synaptic08:31
flaccidah thats the whole skel08:31
Jucatoflaccid: the thing is, if you upgraded with your settings intact, the kubuntu-default-settings don't kick in. you might find the color scheme file in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings08:31
Delph_nzyou can then add the repositories from the menus in there08:31
sbut where?08:31
Delph_nzfrom konsole08:31
stacy_can anyone help me please08:31
show? i did sudo gedit.... in gnome but it doesnt work in kde08:32
Delph_nzopen a console, and then type "sudo apt-get install synaptic"08:32
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stacy_i really want to get this installed tonight i am doing the flashplayer install or trying08:32
dude_is it safe to install beryl?08:32
Linux_Galores duh  gedit is gnome apps08:32
Jucatoflaccid: the wallpaper would be named kubuntu-wallpaper.png. I'm guessing you can access that normally from the configure Desktop settings08:32
sbut is there a think like synaptic for kde?08:32
si meant thing08:32
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Delph_nzsynaptic works in kde :)08:32
Delph_nzstacy_: what problems are you having?08:33
Linux_Galores: just run adept08:33
Jucatos: it's called Adept Manager (in Kubuntu)08:33
Delph_nzI still prefer synaptic over adept08:33
stacy_all kinds i have no idea how to actually do this at all08:33
stacy_my adept is not working08:33
Linux_Galores: if you want to edit your sources list adept can do that08:33
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E[m] essoh wb stacy, did you figure out why adept wasnt there?08:33
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stacy_no i still havent figured it out08:34
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Linux_Galorestacy_: type  apt-get update && dpkg --configure -a08:34
eric??08:34
stacy_i installed it earlier and it keeps telling me that its not there when i know i put it in08:34
dude_is it safe to install beryl?08:34
slinux_galore: how? i cant find where to add repostories in there?08:34
JucatoKiongku: was I able to indirectly answer your question about Save Markings?08:34
Linux_Galorestacy_: type  sorry  sudo apt-get update && dpkg --configure -a08:34
Linux_Galores: under view08:34
sok08:35
Linux_Galores: view -> manage repo08:35
eric08:35
E[m] essdude_: i have beryl, but window effects arent workin, but i suppose its safe08:35
stacy_it says requested operation requires superuser privilege08:35
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Linux_Galorestacy_: type  sorry  sudo apt-get update && dpkg --configure -a08:36
stacy_how do i make superuser privilages08:36
Jucatosudo for command line, kdesu to launch GUI apps08:36
E[m] essstacy_:  sudo=superuser08:36
KiongkuJucato: yah.. though it is not of any use for me right now.. k c ya in edgy next time.08:36
E[m] essor for gui use kdesu08:36
KiongkuGood bye Dapper Drake..08:36
JucatoKiongku: hehehe! see you at the edge! :)08:37
Kiongkuyup08:37
stacy_bash: udo: command not found08:37
slinux_galore: got it.. thanks man08:38
erichello Guy`~08:38
Linux_Galorestacy_: type  just so the spaces are more obvious   sudo   apt-get  update  &&   dpkg  --configure  -a08:38
Jucatostacy_: sudo08:38
stacy_dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege08:38
JucatoLinux_Galore: you forgot the second sudo :)08:38
Linux_Galorehmm bugger you need it twice08:39
Jucatostacy_: "sudo apt-get update && sudo dpkg --configure -a"08:39
stacy_stacy@scarlett:~$ sudo08:39
stacy_usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v08:39
stacy_usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 08:39
stacy_            { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }08:39
Jucatostacy_: please don't flood08:39
E[m] essstacy_: if it says you need superuser, do teh command again but before it have sudo08:39
Linux_Galorestacy_: sudo   apt-get  update  &&  sudo   dpkg  --configure  -a08:39
eric08:39
flaccidnearly done jucato08:39
stacy_now it says done08:40
Jucatoflaccid: anything else you need? configuring the Crystal window deco is a bit tricky though...08:40
stacy_reading package lists done08:40
stacy_so now what lol08:40
flaccidJucato: thats about it thanks08:40
Linux_Galorestacy_: type  sudo  adept08:40
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JucatoLinux_Galore: kdesu adept, please :)08:40
stacy_failed to open device08:40
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stacy_wow i think its doing it now08:41
Linux_GaloreJucato: I would accept kdesu mucks up every now and again08:41
JucatoLinux_Galore: usually if run from CLI, it doesn't. but using sudo for GUI has even worse possible consequences than kdesu fscking around08:42
Chris7mashi all08:42
flaccidfirefox 2 seems faster08:42
Chris7masanybody knows how to display romanian fonts () properly in konqueror? using kubuntu 6.06.1 and kde 3.5.208:42
Delph_nzhey Chris7mas08:42
flaccidbbs08:43
Delph_nzsorry no idea Chris708:43
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Chris7masi tried different encoding options, including utf8 and still it displays them as rectangles08:44
Chris7mason firefox however it works, with encoding set to automatic08:44
Linux_Galorewell the dapper-> edgy update went ok i only have one bug and that is the adept updater wont install kompile and xorg packages because it will break my install08:44
Linux_Galorefunny though Xorg works fine lol08:44
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swhat's the equivalent of gedit in KDE?08:45
Chris7maskate08:45
Linux_Galoreand I dont have the xorg package installed either08:45
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Chris7maskate (kde advanced text editor) and it's very powerful08:46
Linux_Galorekedit if you have it installed is easy08:46
sthanks. I thought you were talking to someone when you type KATE08:46
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Chris7mas:))08:46
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Chris7masno problem08:46
sso kedit08:46
Linux_Galore<- vim junky08:46
Chris7masi can't understand that program :)08:47
Chris7masim used to nano in cli08:47
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Linux_GaloreIm an old Unix guy so vim is second nature08:47
Chris7masim kind of new (more than 6 months without windows)08:47
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Linux_GaloreChris7mas: try using those when X is broken or your on a server with no x server installed08:48
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Chris7masnano does its job08:48
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Chris7masi only edit the sources.list and xorg.conf files, but very rare08:48
Linux_GaloreChris7mas: always good to learn vim because if Xorg stuffs up on an update you will need it08:48
Chris7masthanks for the tip :)08:49
mslLinux_Galore: he could still use nano just fine08:49
Linux_Galoremsl: Ive never used nano so I wouldnt know08:50
mslIt's basically the same as pico, which you may be familiar with08:50
Linux_Galoreaah08:50
Linux_Galoremsl: not as nasty as joe though08:51
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mslI've never used joe, and only used nano and pico sparingly.08:51
flaccidhow to configure edgy so boot splash also shows cli output?08:51
Linux_Galorevim to joe  is like comparing osx to dos08:51
mslvim for me08:51
flaccidthe boot messages08:51
flaccidjoe for me08:52
xsachavim for me08:52
Linux_Galorejoe if you like minimalism at its extreme heh heh08:52
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Linux_GaloreI got stuck with a dec machine with joe once, took me ages to figure it out08:53
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Linux_Galorealthough I found updating from dapper -> edgy a pain Im very happy with the results08:55
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K`zanv /etc/fstab08:55
K`zanHow do I get ubuntu to quit looking on the CD for stuff under kde?08:56
JucatoK`zan: when does it do this?08:56
K`zanJucato, So far every time I apt-get something.08:57
K`zankde, portmap08:57
JucatoK`zan: remove/disable the deb cdrom: from your sources.list08:57
K`zanJucato, thanks.08:58
arejayteeok ive got a 30gig drive(27gig), im thinking 2 5gig partitions for linux and xp, 2 1gig partitions for each os swap file location and then 15 gig for data storage! make sense to everyone?08:58
Dasnipayou dont need 1 gig swaps08:59
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Dasnipaand by 'data storage' do you mean formatting to fat32 for use in both *nix and winblows?09:00
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yonkeltronwhy was i unable to format my / as xfs?09:02
yonkeltrondebian lets me do it just fine09:02
arejayteeyeah Dasnipa09:02
arejayteeu dont recommend the swap drives?09:03
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Dasnipaarejaytee, well i think xp handles swap differently, doesnt have a set aside partition for it. and linux 1 gig is probably fine, though slightly large09:04
arejayteeu can set the partition location for xp through control panel09:04
arejayteefor swap file09:04
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Dasnipayeah but it only uses it as necessary so you dont have to have a drive set aside for just that09:05
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K`zanShould I be using adept or synaptic for package management or does it matter?09:09
JucatoK`zan: doesn't matter. use whatever you like :)09:10
K`zanJucato: Thank you Sir.  Much missing at the moment :-).  The new firefox (as usual) hoses a lot of my extensions :-).09:10
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JucatoK`zan: yeah. the extension developers need to catch up :)09:11
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K`zanHummm, adept doesn't seem to find squid.09:11
JucatoAdept Manager?09:12
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Jucatoor the Add/Remove Programs?09:12
JucatoK`zan: it should be there. make sure that your "main" respository is enabled09:13
K`zanNo results, perhaps I should put the CD back in for now.09:13
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K`zanlooks like adept is just for window manager stuff.09:14
JucatoK`zan: like I said, make sure that your "main" repo is enabled in your sources.list09:14
Jucatono it's not09:14
K`zanJucato: checking...09:14
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jurajcan anybody help me with wine + strong dc++ ?09:16
xsachagah what's it called when everything is the same... uniform.. it's a good word.. umm09:16
xsachathere are native versions of dc++, why use a windows version?09:17
K`zanlooks like software sources isn't there, will manually edit sources.list09:17
jurajwhat native versions? I have tried over 10 clients, but I am not very happy09:17
xsachahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=DC++09:18
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xsachayeah there's 10 in the links, you didnt like any of them? :(09:18
jurajYes, but there are only few apps and they have not multisegment downloads09:19
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slimehow to config kde not to save session settings?09:20
juraj<xsacha> Sorry, I am new on Linux09:20
Jucatoslime: System Settings -> Session Manager09:21
Jucatoslime: are you on Dapper or Edgy?09:21
slimedapper09:22
slimeJucato: no more on dapper09:22
K`zanJucato: That did it, thank you!09:22
JucatoK`zan: you're welcome09:23
jurajI have move to Linux, but only one program is still missing: Direct Connect09:23
Jucatoslime: have you found Session Manager in System Settings? I can't remember where it is (I'm on Edgy)09:23
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xsachajuraj: you're sure none of them have multi segment downloads? :( i'm sure there's a lot, tried searching google for multi segment DC linux or something?09:24
Jucatoslime: I think it's in System Settings -> KDE Components -> Session Manager09:24
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jurajxsacha: True is, that I have tried something, but I have problems with install it09:25
slimeJucato: still looking i am on kde 3.509:25
slimeJucato: still looking i am on kde 3.5.209:25
Jucatoslime: yes it should be there, no matter what KDE version, as long as it's Dapper...09:26
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xsachajuraj: installing the linux versions? when you find one, search adept to make sure it's not already in repository09:26
jurajxsacha:Have you any practice with wine? Or, I can give you my IP, and when you can me install some DC client...09:26
xsachacould just get it from thee09:26
slimeJucato: thx09:26
slimegot it'09:26
jurajxsacha: I have installed all from repository09:27
Jucatoslime: err.. sorry. under User Account?09:27
xsachai use wine a lot, what problem are you having with it09:27
frankkmI have just downloaded the newest version of Kubuntu and installed it, bur adept wont full upgrade my packages, what should I do?09:28
slimeJucato: found it, it's just like you said. system settings>kde comp>ses man09:28
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Jucatoslime: aah nice :)09:28
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jurajxsacha: All from repository with DC of course :) Why my changes on StrongDC++ are in terminal marked with permissions denied?09:29
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jurajxsacha: when I have quit wine, all my changes are out09:29
xsachatry using sudo in terminal juraj, or change the user from root to your login09:29
xsachawhere is your drive_c for wine? it should be in your user directory09:30
xsachalike: /home/juraj/.wine/drive_c09:30
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jurajxsacha: I am not root default?09:31
xsachano09:31
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jurajwhy? I have Efty, i have read somewhere, that I am root... Bad article mybe09:31
xsacharoot has no password by default, so you cant use it -- to have root privileges you must run commands with sudo09:32
Jucato!sudo09:32
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:32
Jucatogah reflex action....09:32
jurajSo what can I do: sudo wine ... ?09:32
xsachayes, but you shouldnt have to, where is your wine's drive_c09:33
xsachatry: winecfg to set up wine if you haven't already09:33
jurajok, I try it09:33
ccomp5950juraj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo09:34
Brydenn33anyone here know how to use Kismet?09:34
ccomp5950(ok how do you see all those commands jucato?)09:34
EmessBrydenn33: for legal things only :P09:34
Brydenn33of course Emess09:35
Brydenn33lol09:35
Jucatoccomp5950: the bot09:35
Brydenn33help me please :)09:35
Brydenn33i'm just trying to get it to work with my network card09:35
Brydenn33so nothing bad09:35
Jucatoccomp5950: memorized a few... force of habit...09:35
Emesscommand or gui? iv never used the gui09:35
Brydenn33i have a D-Link DWL-G52009:35
jurajxsacha: when you mean this, I have wine's drive_c on C:09:35
ccomp5950jucato: they aren't listed anywhere?09:35
Brydenn33uhm i dunno09:35
Brydenn33i just installed the version that adept-manager has09:35
Brydenn33i think its command09:36
Brydenn33but isnt the gui like a command line gui anyway?09:36
Jucatoccomp5950: um.. not that I know of...09:36
Jucato!ubotu | ccomp595009:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ccomp5950 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:36
Brydenn33i've only seen a few screenshots... its not fancy09:36
xsachajuraj: you have drive_c attached to an actual partition instead of a directory inside /home/..?09:36
Jucatoccomp5950: http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:36
xsachajuraj: your windows partiton -- an NTFS?09:37
jurajxsacha: yes09:37
frankkmedgy rules!09:37
Brydenn33Emess: ?09:37
xsachagah! well i dont think you can write to it, atleast not very well09:37
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Emesssorry Brydenn33, im really not the person to ask about it09:38
xsachaif you want your changes to be saved, use a different drive_c in your user directory juraj -- writing to NTFS isnt very good09:38
Brydenn33well don't be so sure09:38
Brydenn33like i said, all i'm trying to do is get it working lol09:38
Brydenn33i believe you have to edit the kismet.conf right?09:38
Emessno idea, it comes preinstalled with my distro09:39
K`zanmy color depth is hosed, where is that set here?09:39
Brydenn33what distro do you have?09:39
jurajOk, but I must have Windows installation there in new location?09:39
K`zan6.10 ubuntu09:39
jurajI have all my partitions NTFS09:39
xsachaK`zan: /etc/X11/xorg.conf  in Screen section, :  DefaultDepth 2409:39
K`zanxsacha: Thanks, checking.  May need the nvidia drivers, not sure yet.09:40
slimehow do i remote into kubuntu?  rdp?09:41
K`zanxsacha: it is 24, sigh, backgrounds are pixilated which I didn't have under gentoo with the nvidia drivers.09:41
xsacha:(09:41
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heinkel_111slime.... ssh?09:42
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jurajxsacha: how i can quit from wine? in terminal are still running commands09:42
slimeheinkel_111: no, i mean the graphical one09:42
Jucatokdrc krdp?09:43
heinkel_111ssh -X09:43
xsachajuraj: ctrl+c to kill an application in konsole09:43
heinkel_111or the alternatives suggested by Jucato if you want a full remote desktop09:43
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Jucato@_@09:43
xsachajuraj: your linux filesystem isnt NTFS, you can use that to write to -- what you are on right now :P use drive_c in there09:44
jurajxsacha: it hangs?09:44
rangermanHey guys, I run kubuntu, and wanted to install unrar progra - it doesn't seem to exist in the respositories, I know on debian it comes under the non-free software repo, what about kubuntu?09:44
xsachayou killed it with ctrl+c?09:44
jurajxsacha: yes, but why... It can't quit correctly?09:44
slimeheinkel_111: ?? i did ssh -X name@ip.address, i just get normal shell09:45
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xsachaperhaps, -- it didnt handle the windows program quitting properly09:45
chuparangerman, i have just installed it an hour ago09:46
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Flosofthey09:46
K`zanYep, looks like I am going to need the real nvidia drivers :-(.09:46
drhouse_hello. for a amd athlon is better a generic kernel o a 386 one?09:46
rangermanchupa, what repos are you using?09:46
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K`zanWill dig back into this when I get up.  Thanks for all the help tonight, MUCH appreciated.09:47
K`zanNight all.09:47
chuparangerman, main restricted universe multiverse and backports09:47
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rangermanchupa, I have all of them, yet when I try to install I get this:09:48
rangermanroot@eloise:~# apt-get install unrar09:48
rangermanReading package lists... Done09:48
rangermanBuilding dependency tree... Done09:48
rangermanPackage unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:48
rangermanThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or09:48
rangermanis only available from another source09:48
rangermanE: Package unrar has no installation candidate09:49
rangermanroot@eloise:~#09:49
slimenice going rangerman09:49
rangermanSame thing for 'rar' :/09:49
jurajxsacha: thank you, I have changed my drive_c to home and it works properly... Last ask (maybe:) : are you using some native DC clients?09:49
Jucatorangerman: please make sure "multiverse" is enabled09:49
rangermanIt is09:50
chuparangerman, edgy or dapper?09:50
Jucatorangerman: are you sure it's the correct multiverse? it shouldn't be the one with dapper-backports or edgy-backports09:50
rangermandapper09:50
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rangermandeb http://195.248.90.54/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse09:51
rangerman deb-src http://195.248.90.54/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse09:51
rangermanWhat one do I need?09:51
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slimehow do i install firefox 2.0?09:51
slimeon dapper09:51
Jucatorangerman: not that one09:51
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rangermanhrm, can you paste me them then, as I don't have them?"09:51
Jucatorangerman: that has "deb htpp://blahblah/ubuntu/ dapper universe" add multiverse to that09:52
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rangermanThank you.09:53
ironfroggywhat repo do i need for the unrar tool?09:53
rangermanread up09:53
ironfroggywhy backports?09:53
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rangermanmultiverse you fool, who said anything about backports.09:53
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ironfroggyyou did09:54
Jucatoironfroggy: not backports09:54
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Jucatoironfroggy: "deb htpp://blahblahblah.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe" add "multiverse" at the end. substitute with "edgy" if you're on Edgy09:54
DjDarkmanhy ,can someone tell me what is the ubuntu hardware database?09:55
flo-_-how can i make kopete keep the layout of the tabs(windows) when i change betwin chat tabs or even restart the aplication?09:55
ironfroggyJucato: do ineed to do something then so apt sees that change?09:55
Jucato!multiverse > ironfroggy09:55
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ubuntu_using Kubuntu live disc09:56
ubuntu_getting error09:56
drhouse_hello. for a amd athlon(k7) is better a generic kernel o a 386 one?09:57
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n3stormhi09:57
ubuntu_anyone know what error: Critical  error ped_disc_duplicated!09:57
heinkel_111drhouse: depends on if you want 64 bit or 32 bit I guess09:57
ubuntu_i get this during partition stage of installation with kubuntu live disc09:58
drhouse_3209:58
ironfroggyJucato: that doesnt help me. i cant run adept, im ssh'ed in.09:58
ironfroggyJucato: ive added multiverse to the appropriate line in /etc/apt/sources.list tho.09:59
Jucatoironfroggy: ah. well you need to edit sources.list, then sudo apt-get update, then install unrar09:59
ubuntu_how do i change nick?09:59
esbenironfroggy: adept runs fine over ssh -X09:59
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esbenubuntu: /nick newnick09:59
esbenI think09:59
ironfroggyesben: its not installed on the box09:59
slimehow do i play movie.avi?09:59
slimewhich app and which encoder>10:00
slime?10:00
esbenironfroggy: Well, then either use apt-get and friends directly10:00
Jucatoslime: libxine-extracodecs10:00
esbenironfroggy: or install it :)10:00
ironfroggyslime: you mean codec? depends on the codec. avi is not a codec.10:00
esbenanyone here managed to get SASL, postfix and postgresql to work together for SMTP authentication?10:00
livingdaylightanyone understand error message: critical error during ped_disc_duplicated10:00
slimeironfroggy: i want to play movie.avi10:00
ironfroggyslime: so open kaffiene10:01
slimeJucato: i already installed libxine-...10:01
livingdaylightping Momal10:01
Jucatoslime: absolutely, positively sure?10:01
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pielgrzymdear Edgy users - did anyone have a similar crash to mine: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/6900710:02
pielgrzymthis is a real problem10:02
slimeadept manager said so, Jucato10:02
Jucatoslime: then it should play fine in Kaffeine10:02
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slimeJucato: yes, it plays but no picture, only sound10:03
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Jucatohm...10:03
xsachaanyone here running Kubuntu Feisty Fawn?10:03
Jucatoxsacha: how will that be possible?10:03
Jucato:P10:03
pielgrzymFeisty? Is there a beta already??10:03
xsachaa developer working on it maybe?10:03
Jucatoit's not even opened/started yet10:03
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Jucato:)10:03
livingdaylightmomal: its not accepting my password so i can't pm10:03
xsachaslackers10:03
pielgrzymdear Edgy users - did anyone have a similar crash to mine: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/6900710:03
JucatoO_O10:04
momallivingdaylight: Ahh i see :p10:04
mulderMorning all10:04
livingdaylightmomal: getting error message during kubuntu install10:04
slimehow can i remote into kde? or gnome?10:04
momalwhat kinda error ?10:04
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xsachaslime: ssh ?10:04
livingdaylightdo you know what error during ped_disc_duplicated means?10:04
MilhousePunkRockGood morning everyone!10:04
mulderI need some help with my audigy 2 zs and my logitech webcam.10:04
slimexsacha: ssh -X has no GUI picture10:04
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livingdaylightAnyone know what ped_disc_duplicated could mean?10:05
livingdaylightwhat is a ped_disc?10:05
MilhousePunkRockIt's almost perfect, except that I can only get the active window on top by clicking on the title bar...10:05
xsachaslime: xinetd vnc?10:05
livingdaylightgetting this error during kbuntu installation phase of partitioning10:05
MilhousePunkRockAny way I can get it on top by clicking anywhere on it?10:05
xsachaslime: vino vnc?10:06
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: click to focus?10:06
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MilhousePunkRockJucato: Can you be a little more descriptive? I am using a localised KDE...10:07
slimexsacha: i have to run a daemon on remote server first?10:08
livingdaylightJucato: do you know what a ped_disc is?10:08
Emesshey MilhousePunkRock, you know if its possible to use xorg 7.1.1 on dapper?10:08
xsachaslime: yes10:08
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: well I was just wondering, because I can click on any part of a window to raise it... are you on Dapper or Edgy?10:08
Jucatolivingdaylight: sorry, nope...10:08
livingdaylightAnyone know what a ped_disc is?!10:08
MilhousePunkRockEmess: Don't know, sorry10:08
xsachasame as ssh10:08
Emess:(10:08
MilhousePunkRockJucato: Edgy10:08
MilhousePunkRockOr even more important: KDE 3.5.510:09
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: hm.. in System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Focus tab, is your policy set to Click to Focus?10:09
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MilhousePunkRockJucato: That's the downside of my German KDE now... it's on "Focus on mouse contact" (the 2nd option from the top)10:10
slimexsacha: i have vino installed10:10
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Emessmmm is it safe to upgrade to edgy? or is edgy actually called that and is fully finished and no longer RC?10:10
xsachaslime: good, try that? :) uses vnc10:10
MilhousePunkRockEmess: Edgy has been released stable last thursday10:10
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: hm.. on my system, Click to Focus is the first one form the top.10:10
jigerHelp!! I am unable to boot into kubuntu edgy after upgrade from dapper10:10
Emessso its actually called edgy? i thought edgy jsut meant the latest rc10:11
JucatoEmess: Edgy Eft is the name. alpha,beta, rc, or stable :)10:11
Emessjiger jsut confirmed my fears :P10:11
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xsachayes it's same is edgy and it was released a couple of days ago :)10:11
slimexsacha: vncviewer ip.address?10:11
Emessoh ok, i thought it was short for vutting edge or something10:11
xsachaEmess: next version is called Feisty :P10:11
Emesslol10:11
MilhousePunkRockJucato: Well, but that takes away focussing the window on mouse over... Which I would like to have, and bring the window to the front by clicking10:11
JucatoEmess: well, in a sense, yes10:11
xsachaslime: use --help or man if unsure, i have not used it10:11
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: focus follows mouse is bugged in KDE 3.5.5 afaik10:12
Jucatoclick to focus is the only one that works properly iirc10:12
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Emessmmm so how do i upgrade to edgy with the elast amount o pain?10:12
slimexsacha: will the guy on the server side see what i am doing on the desktop? since this is vnc?10:12
Jucato!upgrade | Emess10:12
ubotuEmess: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)10:12
xsachaslime: i'm unsure about the implementation10:13
ccomp5950slime: if you have it setup where you still have control of the cursor and keyboard and he has "render cursor" turned on he should be able to see your mouse movements.10:13
MilhousePunkRockJucato: I used to have focus on mouse over, but that was a little weird when I have, let's say, a kopete window in the top left corner, and I was clicking on Kopete in the task bar, i had to be quick to not lose the focus on, let's say, a fullscreen firefox window behind it...10:13
MilhousePunkRockIf that makes any sense to you, Jucato10:14
Jucatoyes. I've tried it once10:14
MilhousePunkRockmaybe I should hop over to #kde and ask there...10:14
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: have you tried #kubuntu-de?10:15
Jucato!de10:15
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:15
MilhousePunkRockJucato: Well, I used to be regular there, but the people are kinda weird10:15
Jucatoheh10:16
MilhousePunkRockSo I rather stick to the global channel, as my english in general is sufficient10:16
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: btw, do your windows flicker?10:16
MilhousePunkRockno10:16
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135250 might be of interest10:16
MilhousePunkRockMy whole screen flickers a little while the battery is loading, but I rather blame that on my laptop itself10:16
JucatoI think that only Click to Focus works properly now...10:17
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MilhousePunkRockJucato: Hmm, I did not have flickering when I had Focus on mouse over10:18
momalI have warty warthog and want to upgrade to edgy how do i go about it :p jokes!10:18
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Jucatolol10:18
mulderAnybody can help me with my Audigy 2 ZS sound card please, as well as my logitech webcam, and Canon MP130 Pixma printer?10:18
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Jucatomomal: reinstall heheh! :)10:18
momalhehe10:18
mulderI have been struggling with that, the rest works all fine.10:19
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MilhousePunkRockmulder: Will something else be added the next time you ask? ;-)10:19
gsuvegre10:19
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mulderSorry if this is too much Milhouse :-(10:19
n3stormedgy cannot handle a sata disk?10:19
n3stormI have a shuttle barebone10:19
DjDarkmanwhere can I get information on installing XGL?10:20
mulderThese are the only things left for me to get rid of windows once for all!10:20
MilhousePunkRockmulder: I can't help you with that anyway, since I don't have any of these gadgets... But the first time you asked the printer was not there...10:20
slimehow to check if vino is running?10:20
fdoving!xgl | djdarkman10:20
ubotudjdarkman: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:20
mulderYes I know, I thought I could find the drivers..but alas no!10:20
MilhousePunkRockmulder: Did you check the wiki for a similar model?10:21
mulderI checked on google and stuff10:21
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MilhousePunkRockmulder: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/CanonPixmaIP4200?highlight=%28canon%2910:22
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MilhousePunkRockBut you have probably already read that, haven't you, mulder... ;-)10:23
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honza__hello10:23
honza__I've got a question...10:23
honza__how can I upgrate my kubuntu 6.06. to 6.10?10:24
mulderNot to the full kind sir. I heard that the MP130 can use the IP5000 drivers10:24
jigerdoes anyone know what the following means?10:24
jigerBegin: Initializing /dev10:24
jiger/init: 76: Syntax error: 0xID=cb5f831d-0219-4c7c-be23-b954444575fb10:24
jigerkernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!10:24
fdoving!upgrade | honza__10:24
ubotuhonza__: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)10:24
Jucatofdoving: you beat me to it :)10:24
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fdovingJucato :)10:24
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Jucatofdoving: btw, has anyone ever teased you with "Frodo"?10:24
Jucato:P10:24
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honza__thanks10:25
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fdovingJucato: heh.. i've heard it :)10:25
Jucatofdoving: sorry, I've been dying to ask you that :)10:25
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Brydenn33fdoving: how do you link one file to another10:26
Brydenn33like i have a file that cant find another. but they are both there... how do i link?10:27
honza__I am using the vanilla kernel, 2.6.17, won't that be a problem for an upgrade to 6.10?10:29
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fdovingJucato: hehe, in Norway there was a kids tvprogram with a hippopotamus (in norwegian Flodhest) named 'Flode', i've heard more of that. :)10:29
fdovingBrydenn33: 'ln -s sourcefile linkname'10:30
Jucatofdoving: hahah10:30
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fdovingJucato: http://www.nrk.no/flode/ - now enought offtopic :)10:31
Jucatofdoving: heheh sorry bout that. just couldn't resist :P10:32
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Jucatowth? that's a hippopotamus? oh well... Norwegian version of Barney the purple dino... :P10:32
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Brydenn33blah i hate this10:33
Brydenn33ok i'm trying to figure out how to get Kismet working10:33
Brydenn33and its being a pain10:34
honza__when I do the apt-get dist-upgrade, won't that affect my own kernel, which I compiled extra?10:34
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fdovinghonza__: it would.10:34
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honza__fdowing: It will kill it, or only add new boot options to menu.lst of the grub?10:35
grindelhonza__ are you talking about upgradeing your system10:35
fdovinghonza__: or, it will install new kernels, it won't remove the ones you have installed.10:35
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honza__fdoving: Thanks, that's what i wanted to know :-)10:35
grindeli think it would simply install a new kernal and leave the old one as a boot option10:36
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honza__grindel: That's what I thought, but I wasn't so sure.10:36
honza__Better do some backup...10:37
grindeli got a few questions10:37
drumline_backups are good for your sanity.10:37
gsuvegRiddell: are you online ?10:37
slimehow to tell task bar not to group?10:38
Jucatoslime: right-click on the taskbar, configure Panel -> Taskbar options10:39
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slimeJucato: thx10:42
grindeljucato what version of kubuntu are you running10:42
Jucatogrindel: Edgy10:42
grindelokay do you have xchat installed ??10:42
Jucatonope10:42
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grindelyou don't have to but pretend like your gonna install it using the apt software launched fro KDE not shell and tell me what version you have available10:43
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Jucatogrindel: I don't have to install it to know :)10:44
Jucato2.6.610:44
grindelshould be two packages called "xchat-gnome" and "xchat-gnome-base"10:44
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grindeli don't want you to knwo i would like if you looked10:44
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Jucatohm... xchat-gnome doesn't use the base XChat?10:45
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livingdaylightfd10:46
grindelwell humm ahh let me reboot to kubuntu brb10:46
Jucatogrindel: and btw, it's xchat-gnome-common10:46
livingdaylightfdoving: do you know what error during ped_disc_duplicated means?10:46
livingdaylightwhat is a ped_disc?10:46
grindeloh yeah that's wut i ment10:46
Jucatogrindel: xchat = 2.6.6, xchat-gnome and xchat-gnome-common = 1:0.1310:46
grindelhummm okay brb10:47
jurajvalknut users? When I want to connect, it have problem: Resolver Error. /etc/resolv.conf I have ok10:48
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jurajxsacha: I am tired... It's seems to be problem with DC++ clients under Linux. Or I have can't to set up10:51
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grindelyou still her jucado10:57
grindelhere**10:57
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grindelhow to i configure grubb it's not intalled on my mbr any more so i booted from the cd10:58
grindeli've only dealt with lilo10:58
livingdaylightSo no one knows what a ped_disc is?10:58
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grindelnot sure why but it sound famillar10:59
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alex_how to install a bootsplash screen like this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=46481 ? have i only to added the image. and wht is with the text??? the f2 option11:00
proogi upgraded from dapper to edgy by following the instructions in the release announcement, and now adept notifier keeps showing that there are 31 upgrades, even though it doesnt install them. what is the problem?11:01
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_Stev_hi.. i need help installing kubutu11:01
daseebhi... Ive got a problem with my scanner after upgrade to edgy. sane, xsane... when I click preview scan in xsane dialog scanenr stzarts scanning, but the image is not transferred to computer. xsane hangs11:02
grindelwhat kinda help11:02
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_Stev_i'm at "Prepare mount points" step.. i configured it properly but it says "No root filesystem"11:02
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grindelahh i had that problem11:02
grindelyour root mount point partition isn't formatted yet11:03
_Stev_assigned / to /dev/sda5 ... toher partitions swap to /dev/sda611:03
grindelgo back one step and tell it to format it11:03
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grindelyeah11:03
_Stev_my root partition is an ext partition.. formatted with a broken linux isntall.. i selected "reformat"11:03
gsuvegany guidance guru here ?11:04
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apuhow can i downgrade a package?11:04
Kiongkusup i'm on the edge :p yay!11:04
grindelStev you should go back to the previous screen whare your are setting up the partitions and format it from there11:05
_Stev_yeah.. thanks.. it's formatting11:05
grindel:)11:05
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grindelapu wut do you mean downgrade11:05
Jucatoapu: if you have the app installed and the update is available from the repositories, you'll be notified in your system tray.11:05
grindelyeah11:06
_Stev_ok, it worked :)11:06
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apuokay i have the solution11:06
apuapt-get istnall app=ver11:06
KiongkuJucato: hey i'm on the edge with u :p wanan jump?11:07
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grindeli think he whant to do the opposit of upgrade though jucato11:07
Jucatogrindel: ok.. he asked for upgrade so I presumed he meant upgrade :)11:07
Jucatoer.. read wrong11:07
Jucatolol11:07
Jucatosorry apu :)11:07
apui have messed the arts version with other repos, but sudo apt-get install arts=1.5.4-0ubuntu1 helped.11:07
JucatoKiongku: ooo nice! welcome to the edge! :)11:07
apunp:)11:07
grindel<apu> how can i downgrade a package?11:07
Jucatogrindel: I already said sorry... :(11:08
KiongkuJucato: hehe.. i got ehadaches to put my modem back but was faster this time11:08
grindeloh i didn't see sorry11:08
Kiongku*headaches11:08
apu;)11:08
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grindelcan someone tell me how to reinitialize grub please... is it like lilo all i have to do is type grub at a bash prompt ??11:09
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Brydenn33anyone here wifi?11:09
Brydenn33i need help11:09
gsuvegBrydenn33: ask ;)11:09
grindelerr wifi bad11:09
_Stev_hem another problem.. i'm on a sata hd and have another p-ata hd, grub sees my p-ata as hd0 and sata as hd1, and so i have to change menu.lst after the isntall and at every update, ( https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/8497 )11:09
gsuveggrindel: why bad ?11:10
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Brydenn33i'm trying to get my card working with Kismet11:10
Brydenn33and i dunno how to do it right i guess11:10
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grindelbad hackers can use your network11:10
gsuvegright11:10
Brydenn33well if they do bad things like try and crack it11:10
wredeI HATE kwallet! Every time I start kmail it wants passwords and then when I close it there are further dialogs to this effect. How can Is sort out this problem once and for all?11:10
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Brydenn33i live in an area that has FREE wifi hot spots11:11
Brydenn33not trying to hack anything guys11:11
gsuveggrindel: but hacker !/ cracker11:11
MetaMorfoziSwhere can i get mplayer? and mplayer-plugin for edgy?11:11
DannilionCan someone tell me the line I need to stick into /s11:11
MetaMorfoziSonly from source?11:11
gsuveg!=11:11
grindelyou have a point gsuveg11:11
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DannilionCan someone tell me the line I need to stick into /etc/network/interfaces to get my wireless card to automatically connect to my router (ESSID)?11:11
MetaMorfoziShy gsuveg:) J volt a tegnapi konf:)11:11
gsuvegBrydenn33: why do jo need kismet ?11:12
gsuvegMetaMorfoziS: szia ;)11:12
Brydenn33cuz i like it?11:12
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gsuvegBrydenn33: u are the cracker in your area ?11:12
Brydenn33haha not by a long shot gsuveg11:13
gsuvegBrydenn33: u need pop3 pasword or what ?11:13
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gsuvegMetaMorfoziS: melyik eladsokon voltal?11:13
yohannhi, does anyone has few minutes to help me configure pocket pc for kunbuntu ?11:13
gsuvegyohann: ask11:13
gsuvegBrydenn33: what isnt clear ?11:14
Brydenn33gsuveg:  no i dont need a pop3. i need to setup Kismet with my card11:14
Brydenn33well ok11:14
Brydenn33i have kismet installed11:14
yohanni ve add the rule BUS="usb", SYSFS{idProduct}="0a51", KERNEL="ttyUSB*", SYMLINK="smartphone"11:14
Brydenn33and i get an error when i run it11:14
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Brydenn33let me paste it in pastebin for you11:14
gsuvegok11:14
MetaMorfoziSgsuveg, ugye te voltal a grafikais elads? Amgy az sszes magyaron kivtel a kubuntus mukit:)11:14
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yohannbut when i test it, i have the error :11:14
yohannadd_to_rules: invalid BUS operation11:14
yohannadd_to_rules: invalid rule '/etc/udev/rules.d/10-smartphone.rules:1'11:14
yohannmain: unable to open '/sys/class/tty/ttyUSB0/dev'11:14
gsuvegMetaMorfoziS: ye11:14
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Brydenn33gsuveg: this is what i'm talking about... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29031/11:15
MetaMorfoziStisztajvolt ltni ms megszllottakat:)11:15
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alex_how to install a bootsplash screen like this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=46481 ? have i only to added the image. and wht is with the text??? the f2 option11:15
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gsuvegMetaMorfoziS: csak nem volt oram :(11:15
alex_please help me :-(11:15
gsuveg07. No specific sources given to be enabled, all will be enabled.11:15
gsuvegBrydenn33: ^11:16
Brydenn33so what does that mean in english gsuveg11:16
MetaMorfoziSs egsz sokan voltunk...11:16
Jucatoalex_: afaik,you can't. at least not easily. Ubuntu/Kubuntu uses a different bootsplash engine from the ones that use those themes11:16
MetaMorfoziSJucato:  that is: usplash?11:16
gsuvegMetaMorfoziS: demozni akartam, csak tudtam eldonteni mit ;)11:16
JucatoMetaMorfoziS: yes.11:17
JucatoMetaMorfoziS: and please, speak in English in here.thanks :)11:17
MetaMorfoziSmm sry:)11:17
gsuvegBrydenn33: have u setup your card11:17
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gsuvegMetaMorfoziS: join #ubuntu-hu11:17
Brydenn33gsuveg: i believe so.11:17
Jucatoalex_: that theme needs fbslpash. Ubuntu uses USplash11:17
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Brydenn33but how can i be sure?11:17
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Brydenn33i mean... when i go to Wireless Assistant it shows all the networks in my area and shows if they have WEP, etc11:18
Brydenn33so i know the card is working11:18
Brydenn33and it show's ath0 in Network Settings11:18
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grindelhelp anyone ??? please11:19
gsuveggrindel: problem?11:20
yohanngoodbye11:20
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rolandhi11:22
grindelyes thank you gusveg11:22
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Brydenn33so gsuveg any ideas?11:23
rolandi need a good instruction how to create a virtual ramfs. i would like to "copy" the /var/www directory into a ramfs11:23
Brydenn33how do i specify a source?11:23
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alex_and this is that fbsplash too http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=24322 ? can i install fbsplash on kubuntu11:23
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gsuvegBrydenn33: gimme me a time11:23
gsuvegBrydenn33: i dont use now11:23
Brydenn33ok11:23
grindelmy problem is this I installed kubuntu and then later installed windows... windows ofcourse wrtoe over my grub boot menu. I really don't whant to have to install kubuntu again just to simply get the boot menu back... can you help ??11:24
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rolandgrindel: boot with a live cd and type : grub-install /dev/hdX11:25
gsuveggrindel: ah.11:25
rolandgrindel: in the /boot/grub/menu.lst type:11:25
roland# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS11:25
roland# on /dev/hda111:26
rolandtitle           Microsoft Windows XP Professional11:26
rolandroot            (hd0,0)11:26
rolandsavedefault11:26
rolandmakeactive11:26
rolandchainloader     +111:26
fdoving!paste11:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:26
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grindelijust tried that here is the result11:26
grindelubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda111:26
grindelCould not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.11:26
grindelubuntu@ubuntu:~$11:26
extrakevim having a problem, can anyone help?11:27
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gsuvegextrakev: ask11:27
MetaMorfoziSif you don't say what is your problem, imho nobody11:27
grindelsorry was my paste too large ??11:27
extrakevive got all my songs on an NTFS partition, n wen i open them, there is no sound11:27
grindelerr do you have sound otherwise11:27
gsuvegextrakev: if you copy it into linux ?11:28
extrakevbut the sound driver is well installed, there is sound wen Kubuntu starts11:28
grindelhave you check your mixer to make sure your volume is turned up ??11:28
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extrakevyep everything is fine11:28
Jucatoextrakev: are they MP3's? if they are, have you installed libxine-extracodecs?11:28
grindeltry coping a file to your ext3 partition11:29
extrakevok im gng to try11:29
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grindelahh yes no mp3 support11:29
Jucato:P11:29
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Kiongkuhmm11:30
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grindelmenu.lst dosen't exist in the grub subdirectory11:31
__osh__!mp311:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:31
__osh__Ah.11:31
_Stev_my installation locked on "downloading package lists" at 99% -_-11:31
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gsuvegBrydenn33: FATAL: Please configure at least one packet source.  Kismet will not function if no packet sources are defined in kismet.conf or on the command line.  Please read the README for more information about configuring Kismet.11:31
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grindel_Stev_ are you sure that last 1% takes awhile11:32
__osh__Edgy has made the news on slashdot. Not in a very good way though.11:32
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__osh__http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/28/23925811:32
Brydenn33lol yah gsuveg i read that too11:32
Kiongkuduh11:32
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Brydenn33i think i have to specify what wireless device i'm supposed to use11:32
Brydenn33but i still dont know how to put my card in "monitor mode"11:33
_Stev_no data being trasmitted / received ...11:33
Brydenn33which it needs to be in11:33
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gsuvegBrydenn33: what your card type ?11:33
Brydenn33its a D-Link DWL-G52011:33
extrakevme again, im not getting sound even if im playing a VCD11:33
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blackflaghello all11:33
gsuvegBrydenn33: ah. i think you cant put it into monitor mode11:33
Jucatoextrakev: you're trying to play MP3's aren't you?11:33
gsuvegBrydenn33: iwconfig...11:34
grindelVCD's commonly use mp3 encoding for audio11:34
extrakevnot only mp3's, but also films11:34
extrakevim getting no sound11:34
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Jucatoextrakev: you need to install the proper codecs. "libxine-extracodecs"11:34
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Jucato!mp3 > extrakev11:34
extrakevwhere can i get it?11:34
Jucato!multiverse > extrakev11:34
grindelgoogle it11:34
Jucatoextrakev: the bot sent you links.11:34
Sharketorhello all11:35
SharketorI have a problem11:35
extrakevyep got them11:35
extrakevthanx11:35
Jucatoextrakev: use the link for the Repositories to enable "multiverse"11:35
blackflagI want to upgrade to edgy anf I replaced breezy with edgy- doing apt-get update and dist-upgrade but 170 packages are not upgraded and I get not further errors11:35
SharketorI can't install italian language11:35
Jucatoextrakev: once you've enabled multiverse, you can install libxine-extracodecs from the repositories11:35
blackflagcan someone help?11:35
gsuvegBrydenn33: imho its doesnt works within monitor mode11:35
grindelhas anyone made any progress on my issue11:35
extrakevok gng to try that11:35
Jucatoblackflag: err no you can't. you can't upgrade to edgy from breezy...11:36
Brydenn33what doesnt work within monitor mode11:36
blackflagwhy not?11:36
gsuvegBrydenn33: your card11:36
Sharketorin language selector, between supported language I have english only11:36
grindelyou have to upgrade to dapper then to edgy11:36
Jucatoblackflag: technical issues. you have to do breezy to dapper, then to edgy11:36
blackflagohh sorry I, have dapper11:37
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Brydenn33gsuveg:  how do you know?11:37
shinobi2edgy runs which version kde?11:37
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__osh__shinobi2: 3.5.5 I think11:37
Jucato!upgrade | blackflag11:37
ubotublackflag: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)11:37
blackflagbut from dapper to edgy it should go11:37
aurorahelp.. how to change the owner en group in creating database mysql from mysql to mine11:37
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gsuvegBrydenn33: man iwconfig /mode11:37
grindelSharketor when edgy installed it removed the other language packages to save space you have to reinstall the ones you want using apt11:38
Sharketorno, I have dapper11:38
grindelaurora you use the chown command11:38
Sharketorusing apt it says "language base not found"11:38
daseebanyone who can help me with a sane/scanner problem?11:38
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grindelwow this channel has alot of help request11:39
shinobi2__osh__: thx11:39
Jucatonot surprising, since Edgy has been released...11:39
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Sharketordown edgy11:40
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aurorathx11:40
grindelhave you tried doing a manual install of the language packages ??11:40
Sharketorgrindel: how?11:40
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grindelaurora next time you have a problem that simple to fix let me know11:41
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blackflagokay iget broken depencies upgrading the hold-back packages doing:11:41
blackflagapt-get -u dist-upgrade|grep ^' '|xargs apt-get -y install11:41
MetaMorfoziSSharketor: find about lang it11:41
Sharketorin adept there is nothing11:42
fdovingblackflag: please post the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:42
MetaMorfoziSyou need "it" ?11:42
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honza_I've just read the article on the slashdot, what do you think? Is it true, or is that author just a lamer?11:42
Sharketormeta:yes11:42
MetaMorfoziSi personally use synaptic... but i find you, moment:11:42
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oswaldolamer11:43
oswaldojajajaja11:43
honza_that article scared me a little :-)11:43
honza_definitely a lamer?11:43
grindelhonza the editors at slash dot don't normally make up things to write11:43
MetaMorfoziSlanguage-pack-it ; language-pack-it-base ; kde-i18n-it ; language-pack-kde-it ; language-pack-kde-it-base11:43
oswaldothe automatix also is very good11:43
MetaMorfoziSSharketor:  ^^ install these packages, and then in kcontrol or system settings select your region and language..11:43
weedarDo others also have issues with touchpad scrolling and tapping? It worked yesterday but booting today scrolling was off and tapping was off again11:44
Sharketormeta: I have already tried to install it, it says "language base not found"11:44
honza_grindel:  ok..11:44
blackflagokay, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29040/11:44
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MetaMorfoziSSharketor: have you enabled all repositiories?11:44
MetaMorfoziSand, i have + kubuntu.org kde-latest repos11:44
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Sharketoryes11:45
blackflagYou see its german, can you help also?11:45
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extrakevhey thanx, its downloading all the packages with the adept manager11:45
grindelweeder touchpads are very flaky devices at best... but it would be easyer to address your issue if we knew what type of laptop your working with and anyhardware details concerning the touchpad you may have11:45
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perI'm in big trouble. I upgraded my kubuntu to edgy during the night, and now, i cannot start X. after the bootsplash, the screen goes all black, and as soon as i hit any key, i am dropped to console login.11:45
jigercan anyone confirm that what default kernel does kubuntu edgy come with?11:46
creaphotI have a severe Xserver crash on shutdown problem on Edgy (since Dapper in fact) (it seems even the kernel locks, no ssh nor magic keys reboot sequence), Graphic card ati x700 pro.11:46
extrakevwith Linux, will i be able to write to Ntfs partitions?11:46
MetaMorfoziSSharketor: have you the kubuntu.org -repos?11:46
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MetaMorfoziSdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main11:46
grindelextrakev no not at all11:46
grindelntfs is read only11:46
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extrakevisn't any solution to that?11:46
MetaMorfoziStry add this, if you don't have. If you have, i don't know then.11:46
grindelnot at this time11:47
fdovingblackflag: you have more than normal held-back packages.11:47
honza_there still isn't stable writing to ntfs?11:47
extrakevn also, can games like fifa 2007 be played on  it?11:47
blackflaghmm, and what should I do?11:47
grindelcreapshot have you tried to do any diagnostics on why xserver will not start11:47
peras told above, my kubuntu edgy really fucks up, and I'm rather desperate getting back access to the graphical interface...11:47
SharketorI have the ubuntu ones, and no edgy, but dapper11:47
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aurora_everytime i create database the owner:group is mysql en the permision is forbiden for gorup en other..11:48
MetaMorfoziSoh sorry, i'm isn't asked about what is yoru distro...11:48
fdovingblackflag: post the output of 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade'11:48
MetaMorfoziSSharketor: try find that's in packages.ubuntu.com in the dapper section..11:48
Sharketorok, I try11:48
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creaphotgrindel : well, yes, dpkg reconfigured xorg several times11:48
jigerper: I too have just come out from edgy upgrade war11:49
blackflaghere:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29041/11:49
grindelextrakev yes and no. if it is a windows based program/game you will have to use a program called wine in order to make the game run. However there is alot of configuration that you would have to do specifically for that game in order for it to work properly11:49
aurora_how can i make it writable automatically11:49
perjiger: well.. how?11:49
fdovingblackflag: that's waaay more than normal. hang on.11:50
grindeli sugest you look at wine forums and website for more details as the subject of running/configuring wine isn't covered in this chat11:50
jigerper: upgraded(tried to) from dapper to edgy11:50
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creaphotgrindel : i don't know if there's x logs since it crashes badly11:50
jigerper: got faced with a lot of problems11:50
fdovingblackflag: post the output of 'dpkg --get-selections|grep hold'11:50
perjiger: yeah.. and now you're stuck in console like i am?11:50
jigerper: but swimmed thru and now am on edgy11:50
jigerper: nope :)11:50
jigerper: but I was a couple of minutes ago11:50
perjiger: then how do i get X up and running again? :P11:51
fdovingjiger: what instructions did you follow?11:51
jigerper: tried a few suggestions from the web and it worked :)11:51
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perjiger: which ones?11:51
blackflagnothing happens!11:51
jigerbut I want to know if u all r on console then how on irc?11:51
blackflagwith 'dpkg --get-selections|grep hold'11:51
fdovingblackflag: ok.11:51
jigerusing some console irc?11:51
fdovingjiger: yes, 'irssi' is a console irc client.11:52
jigerper: a couple of them11:52
perjiger: im using commandlinebased irssi11:52
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jigerfdoving: I wanted it too. but I had WIndows the great with me on dual boot and I had better options11:52
grindelcreaphot sorry but your beyond my assistance. I have seen snippits about xorg problems post uprgrade but i don't have any detailes. Upgradeing seems to have problems this time for some reason as you can tell by the volume of traffic11:52
grindelplease be patiant and perhaps someone else will be able to help11:52
jigerinfact I wasn't even able to boot into edgy at all a couple of more minutes before that11:52
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serenityhi11:53
perjiger: which urls did you use for instructions?11:53
jigerper and fdoving: try this11:53
blackflaghmmm... and now?11:53
DjDarkmanis beryl suppoed to work on kde?11:53
jigertry dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:53
creaphotgrindel well it was the same problem in dapper. otherwise, microphone capture disappeared too, with edgy :-(11:53
jigerper: it won't work for u but still try and confirm the outcome11:54
fdovingblackflag: can you post the output of 'LANG=en_US apt-get install amanda-client' ?11:54
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jigerbut can anyone confirm kernel in kubuntu edgy11:55
blackflaghttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29043/11:55
jigermine is showing 2.6.12-9-38611:55
DjDarkmanwich kernel?11:55
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alitis4in slackware on xfce, i got the xfsamba4 ... how i can add this on ubuntu?(i run xfce)11:55
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fdovingjiger: should be 2.6.17-1011:56
jigerI think Kubuntu comes with only one kernel11:56
permy kernel says, in grub, 2.6.1711:56
jigerfdoving: preceisely. but then why ain't I upgraded11:56
aurora_grindel: what to set everytime i create database the permision is writable to other...11:56
alitis4in slackware on xfce, i got the xfsamba4 ... how i can add this on ubuntu?(i run xfce)11:56
fdovingblackflag: next up is 'LANG=en_US apt-cache policy libc6'11:56
grindelaurora please clarify i don't understand11:57
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jigeranyone know how to upgrade to 2.6.17?11:57
jigerper: did it work?11:57
aurora_everytime i create database .. the database is forbiden to group en other11:57
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grindeljiger recompile11:57
blackflaghttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29044/11:57
fdovingalitis4: there is xffm4-samba11:57
jigergrindel: why? why doesn't dist-upgrade take care of it?11:58
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alitis4ty fdoving11:58
grindelaurora are you creating the database as the root user... can you create the database with the user account that you would like to access the database11:58
fdovingblackflag: did you edit sources.list and change everything to from dapper to edgy?11:58
fdovingblackflag: check with 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'11:58
blackflagyes, that is what I did11:59
aurora_grindel: i create db with my user11:59
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Sharketormeta: it is a problem of italian repos11:59
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fdovingblackflag: check again. or use 'cp /etc/apt/sources.{list,list.bak}; sed -i s/dapper/edgy/g /etc/apt/sources.list'11:59
SharketorI have solved the problem using the french ones11:59
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Sharketorthanks12:00
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grindeljiger i don't know i have never upgraded... it install a new kernal when you upgraded and is the new kernel the defualt kernel or is the old kernel still the defult.. do you have the new kernel installed and just aren't booting to it ??12:00
fdovingblackflag: tell me when you're done.12:00
_Stev_it's again at "downloading package lists", 99%, no network activity, what should I do?12:00
kimmernHey! I have a minor problem here..I have a vcd as bin/cue files..use bchunk to make a iso files..I get 2 iso files, but none of them are able to mount..I just get this error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop012:01
fdovingblackflag: and please put my nick before the message, that way i'll spot your message easier.12:01
kimmernanyone know what to do?12:01
grindelaurora i don't understadn if you create a DB or anyother file with user X then user X and anyother user in the same Group that user X is in should have access to the file12:01
jigergrindel: nope. my grub/menu.lst just shows 2.6.12-9-38612:01
fdovingkimmern: did you follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountIso ?12:02
fdovingkimmern: does other isos mount cleanly?12:02
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grindeljiger i don't have anyother sugestions besides installing a new kernel at that point... and be happy I don't have a /boot/grub/menu.lst at all i'm booting from the live cd12:03
blackflagfvokay; idid apt-get update and upgrade and its upgrading now12:03
blackflagfdoing: okay; idid apt-get update and upgrade and its upgrading now12:03
kimmernfdoving: yeah, i followed that one!12:03
jigergrindel: ok how wud I install the new kernel?12:04
fdovingblackflag: ok, good. there was a problem in your sources.list file then. a dapper entry was left behind. :)12:04
blackflagit seems not all dapper where replaced with edgy12:04
fdovingblackflag: correct.12:04
grindelthe only method i have ever used is to download new sorces build and install12:04
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jigerok12:04
blackflagfdoving: thanks for your good help!! :)12:04
grindelgoto www.kernel.org for sources it should aslo have instructions on what to do12:05
grindelyou also need access to the root account12:05
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fdovingblackflag: to be sure it upgrades correctly, i suggest repeating steps 3 to 7 at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade to be sure.12:05
kimmernfdoving: I haven't tried any others..12:05
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cristianohi all anybody knows how to run kgamma???12:06
fdovingkimmern: try some other iso.12:06
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grindelto enable the root account you have to "sudo passwd root" and enter the new password twice12:06
grindelthen you should beable to SU to the root account12:06
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Jucatosudo -i12:07
cristianoi've installed KGAMMA through adept but i dunno how to run it! pls help me!!!12:07
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ElectrolyteSince last time I did it it locked X up :<12:07
nerthhi everybody12:07
grindelhello nerth12:08
cristianonerth: hi12:08
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cristianoguys no suggetion for me???i have to calibrate my monitor but i dunno how to do so in Linux12:08
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grindelperhaps nerth will be able to help fight the tide of request flooding the channel12:08
nerth??12:09
grindeli'm a noob to this channel and am helping as much as i can12:09
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fdovingcristiano: try kmenu -> run command 'kdesu kcmshell kgamma'12:09
lupine_85cristiano: modelines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?12:09
lupine_85make sure you know what the values should be, though :)12:09
cristianolupine_85: that's the point! i need a tool to findout the values!12:10
cristianofdoving: thx i'll try that way12:10
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grindelisn't there a gui tool for that... I forgot what it is though12:11
cristianofdoving: i've tried but a blank window has been shown12:11
cristianogrindel: the tool should be kgamma, but i'm unable to know how to run it12:12
cristiano!kgamma12:12
ubotukgamma: gamma correction module for the KDE Control Center. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 77 kB, installed size 336 kB12:12
cristianodamn i've installed but i'm still figuring out how to run it!12:12
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grindelokay kgamma but i thought there was an older Xtool that was independant of WM's12:12
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fdovingcristiano: then the tool doesn't work. or something. can't you use the monitor & display tool in system settings?12:13
grindelXFree86config ?? <--- too old12:14
fdovingcristiano: what do you need to configure exactly?12:14
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cristianofdoving i tried to use it but i don't know how to set optimal values for monitor brightness contrast and for gamma12:14
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grindelcristiano perhaps you have an incorrect monitor profile the defult settings should be good if the profile is accurate12:16
cristianowell grindel that's why i want to set brightness and contrast on the monitor and gamma in the system settings (btw i have a 17 inches flat lcd philips monitor)12:17
grindelmy point is perhaps your system thinks another type of screen is attached...12:19
cristianogrindel my system recognized it is a philips 170C12:19
grindelif it dosen't have the correct screen profile installed then your gamma brighness is going to be screwy12:19
grindelokay12:19
grindeli was just asking12:19
cristianoi'm trying to make it recognize again...damn i'm a web designer so i really need to have such a setting on my system :(12:21
pielgrzymhello fellow linuxers ;) could anyone politely tell me where are the keyboard layout files located? those file responsible for multimedia keys I mean :)12:22
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ElectrolyteWow, I can't believe I got Half-Life 1 running with an extremely playable frame rate AND EAX :o12:24
ElectrolyteI didn't know EAX would work :/12:24
fdovingcristiano: if you hang on for a few minutes, i'll try to find something for you.12:24
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skshi at all... i have a problem with my notebook.. i can hear the audio only if i connect the speaker in the headset plug, but i can't hear nothing from the built in speakers... some ideas?12:25
sksi have kubuntu 610...12:25
cristianofdoving: thx so much, i'll be holdin on :D:D12:26
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sksi have searched everywhere but nothing... someone has the same problem?12:26
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fdovingcristiano: you can do it from the konsole in the meantime, kmenu -> system -> konsole run: 'xgamma -help'12:27
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alex-slow_motionhow install the splash screen? i have damaged him and my screen is black, when the computer starts. can somebody help me?12:27
cristianofdoving: i'll check12:27
TheGateKeepersks: is the master turned  on in kmix?12:28
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cristianofdoving: xgamma allows me to set a proper gamma value, but i have still to find it12:29
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alex-slow_motionhow to repaire the bootsplash screen12:30
tintils12:30
cristianogrindel btw it looks like Philips 170C is not in the monitor list of the monitor settings tab in my system configuration O____O12:30
tintihello?12:30
sksTheGateKeeper: yes... i tried Kmix e alsamixer... the volume is ok for headset, but not for built-in speakers... in winoz it switch automatically when i insert headset12:30
franz_(newbie question) i think i messed up my only "user" in my kubuntu. ...i now cannot do "sudo"p since that user is apparently not in the sudoers file...how can i get it back in the "sudoers file" ?12:31
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sksbut in kubuntu it doesn't work... knoppix 5.0.1 is ok... can i take something from knoppix to configure kubuntu?12:31
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fdovingcristiano: this article might help you http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/07/2244242&tid=47&tid=26&tid=712:32
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cristianothx fdoving i'll check this out!:)12:33
fdovingfranz_: can you run 'id' from konsole for me (kmenu -> system -> konsole)? post the output to the channel.12:33
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keyohi12:33
fdovingcristiano: there is not a really good tool to do this.. when kgamma doesn't work.. that is.12:33
beralthello, is it just me where amarok suddenly stopped working in edgy12:34
beralt?12:34
keyodoes kubuntu edgy come with aiglx default?12:34
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sksno one can help me?12:34
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keyowhats your problem sks12:34
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cristianofdoving: thx for ur help i really appreciate it :)12:35
fdovingcristiano: you're welcome :)12:35
skskeyo: i have an audio problem with my asus l1 and kubuntu 61012:35
fdovingkeyo: not configured by default, afaik.12:35
franz_fdoving: uid=1000(franz) gid=1000(franz) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),110(scanner),112(admin),1000(franz)12:35
skskeyo: it's all ok for the headset, but it doesn't work with the built in speakers...12:36
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bmofranz: you have to add yourself to the admin group12:36
keyoI don't know the solution to that, is the board fine in windows?12:36
fdovingfranz_: ok. reboot, hit esc if you to get the list of kernels, select recovery mode, then run 'visudo' to edit the sudoers file.12:36
bmoand then all will be well12:36
skskeyo: usually they work if the headset plug is not inserted..12:36
fdovingfranz_: you should have a line: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL12:37
keyoMy asus does not shutoff the speakers when the headset is in lol12:37
skskeyo: with knoppix it works fine...12:37
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keyoah so its definity amaroK then12:38
skscan i copy something from knoppix to configure kubuntu?12:38
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franz_bmo, fdoving, thanks :-) bmo's suggestion works :-) but i'll keep that in mind, fdoving :-)12:38
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keyosks are both apps using the same engine? xine?12:38
fdovingfranz_: did adding yourself to the admin group work? - you -are- in the admin group.12:39
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Brydenn33fdoving: what's the command to see what kernel you are running?12:39
fdovingBrydenn33: 'uname -r'12:39
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franz_fdoving, nope, i wasn't in the admin group. i was the "adm" group :-)12:40
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franz_is that the same as "admin" ? :-)12:40
sksapps? it's hardware, like the portable radio switch (sorry for my english :) ) i can't hear the system sound from built in speakers12:40
keyoI thought you said it worked in other media players?12:41
b3r53rkhello everyone!12:41
fdovingfranz_: no, but if you read what you pasted to me, you'll find '...110(scanner),112(admin),1000(franz)' at the end of the line.12:41
skskeyo: apps? it's hardware, like the portable radio switch (sorry for my english :) ) i can't hear the system sound from built in speakers12:41
skskeyo: with kubuntu it never works... with winoz or knoppix is ok...12:42
mefisto__I installed kubuntu, then let the updates install themselves. I can't seem to get any sound working any more. Is there something obvious I can do to fix it, apart from reinstalling?12:43
franz_fdoving, ohh...didn't notice that one :-) but nonetheless, adding myself to admin did work ...i wonder why.....hmm.......12:43
b3r53rkjust one quick question, as a newby should i stick with the 64bit os or would 32 bit be better?12:43
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keyodo you know what the chipset is? most likely realtek ac9712:43
keyodo you know what the chipset is? most likely realtek ac9712:43
mefisto__my soundcard?12:43
fdovingfranz_: ok good. but if you were not already in the admin group, you wouldn't be allowed to add yourself to any groups in first place. :)12:44
keyono sks's motherboard sound chip12:44
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skskeyo: intel 82801.. ac97... but it works with external speakers...12:44
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franz_fdoving: ohh.. i see :-) hhmm....so if that happens to me, the solution would be to go to "recovery mode" and run visudo? ...ok :-) i'll write that down just in case ;-) thanks again fdoving ! :-)12:45
skskeyo: but i don't like to bring external speakers with my notebook...12:45
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keyothey only thing i could think of is to reinstall the driver12:46
franz_(fdoving, oh,,btw, i still had my Users & Groups window opened as "franz" as admin :-)...and after playing with it, i can't used sudo anymore in my konsole...maybe that's how i got to add myself, the _changes_ were still not implemented in the currently opened "Users & Groups" window :-) )12:47
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sksok i'll try... thanks...12:47
sksbye...12:47
fdovingfranz_: ah. that explains it :)12:47
mefisto__how do you reinstall drivers? (complete newb with linux)12:48
franz_fdoving, bmo: thanks again for all your help :-) im going to eat my dinner now :-) ciao :-)12:48
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b3r53rkjust one quick question, as a newby should i stick with the 64bit os or would 32 bit be better?12:49
alitis4how i can configure my microphone?12:49
fdovingb3r53rk: 32 is better.12:49
b3r53rkthanks 4 replies12:49
keyoI think 32 bit has more support with drivers12:49
b3r53rki had some problems installing some apps on 6412:49
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b3r53rkthats y i was wondering about 3212:49
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b3r53rkabout drivers i guess i had luck on 64 but i think i'll go for 32 anyway12:50
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mefisto__how do you reinstall drivers?12:50
b3r53rkbye everyone, have a nice day12:50
keyobye12:51
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keyoI hope edgy is faster, beryl runs prety slow (kde 3.5.3 dapper)12:51
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keyocan anyone tell me if beryl will gain performance from upgrading to edgy12:52
mefisto__how do you reinstall drivers? Adept?12:53
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Electrolytekeyo - depends on your graphics card.12:53
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keyoati radeon 980012:54
mendredkeyo: one thing i noticed..kde with beryl felt faster on kde 3.5.5 on dapper12:54
ElectrolyteI wouldn't know then, Beryl runs fast on my X850XT.12:54
funky_Dwho can give me a hand installing m0n0wall on kubuntu....12:54
mendredvis a vis kde 3.5.412:54
mendredon dapper12:54
mendredon edgy it feels just as fast12:55
bomber i found a place to resize the menubars of windows and now i cant find it again... does anyone know  wher i can find it12:55
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alitis4i can't use my microphone... why?12:55
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keyoprobably because the channel is turned off12:55
ElectrolyteI can't use Beryl any way, I want to be able to launch UT2004 without logging out then back into standard X :)12:55
alitis4?12:56
bomberactually its the titlebar i want to resize12:56
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amayerahi12:56
amayeraI have a problem with firefox: when I try to start the latest version in edgy (and the old ones too) I get the following error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 \n Major opcode:  148 \n ... \n Failed to open device12:56
amayeraanybody else experiencing this problem?12:57
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keyoright click on the taskbar>add applet>sound mixer, mic is on of those12:57
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mefisto__bomber: it's in appearance>window decorations12:57
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bomberi thought so but i dont see it anymore12:58
alitis4keyo, ?12:58
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alitis4what taskbar12:58
keyothe thing at the bottom of the screen with the windows listed on it12:59
bomberactually the titlebars12:59
lupine_85!exif12:59
ubotuexif: command-line utility to show EXIF information in JPEG files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.9-5 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 116 kB12:59
mefisto__bomber: you may have changed to a theme/style that doesn't have that setting12:59
alitis4i can't find add aplet12:59
bomberthats what must have happened01:00
keyoclick in the middle of it in a blank space01:00
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zblachhey all. problems with my embedded laptop camera. to what should I look>01:00
bomberi installed then uninstalled enlightenment and it removed all my kde stuff so had to install kde again01:00
amayeranobody else experiencing problems with firefox on edgy?01:00
keyo"Add Applet to Panel" alitis401:01
alitis4i got xfce01:01
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bomberis kubuntu just a kde theme or is there another theme it uses by default?01:01
alitis4kde theme01:01
keyooh sorry, i thought you had kde seeing as this is a kubuntu channel01:01
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alitis4keyo, what can i do ?01:02
keyotry in the system settings for sound01:02
keyoi have never used xfce though01:02
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larson9999keyo: i like xfce.  i first tried it using xubuntu on my son's early p4 because it doesn't have too much ram.  but i like it so much i think i might switch to xubuntu for all my boxes.01:04
larson9999keyo: oops. you don't have xcfe01:05
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keyolarson9999: i might try it some time, its not feature deprived is it?01:05
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larson9999alitis4: what are you trying to do?01:05
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keyoconfigure his mic01:06
mefisto__are thre any gui utils I can install to help me configure my soundcards?01:06
alitis4larson9999, to call on skype and talk01:06
keyotry using adept to reinstall the driver ALSA01:06
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larson9999keyo: the default look is kinda gnomish in where things are placed.  took me about 10 minutes to figure out how to make it look more like kde.  after that, i haven't found anything that 'I' do in kde that i can't in xcfe01:07
alitis4well guys....01:07
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alitis4i put my micro in all the ......01:07
alitis4but it doesn't work01:07
alitis4why01:08
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keyoyou have to turn the input on, there will be an option somewhere, it will be muted01:08
larson9999alitis4: i haven't used skype in a loooong time but i don't see why it should be any different in xcfe.01:08
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alitis4larson9999, i can't use my micro general01:08
alitis4tht's the problem01:08
alitis4microphone*01:09
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larson9999keyo: actually there are a couple xfce apps i liked so much i use them in kde.  the file manager thunar is nice yet lightweight.  same goes for the unarchiver.01:09
alitis4how i can config my microphone01:09
alitis4to enable it ...01:09
alitis4or something like that ?>01:09
keyokonqueror is a slow pile of crap IMO01:10
mefisto__alitis4:  play around with the mixer controls, input section01:10
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keyoi do like the interface though01:10
[Deathmaster] i guess you can call me stupid but i need the alternate cd to upgrade using apt-cdrom right ?01:11
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larson9999keyo: i like konqueror's interface but it seems to want to do a bit too much imho.01:11
keyoas a web browser its too slow on javascript, it loads things corectly though01:12
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keyoOpera is an almost perfect web browser for me01:12
keyolarson9999: send me a screenshot of your desktop, i want to know how much i can get xfce to look like kde01:13
larson9999keyo: opera is nice but there are too many pages that are too sloppy for opera01:14
keyonah, its the browser sniffing 95% of the time01:14
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keyoID as mozilla and everything works fine01:15
morghanphoenixIs there a way to play wma files that come up as encrypted?01:15
keyoget the licence for the files01:17
morghanphoenixIt's supposed to be automatic01:17
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keyoif i upgrade to edgy will my kdm startup settings be changed?01:19
funky_Dhow can i get information about my PC and version of the Kubuntu ?? just like in windows MSINFO32.EXE01:19
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keyoim off to bed01:23
keyobye all01:23
b3r53rksleep well ^^01:23
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morghanphoenixDamn microcentric bullshit01:25
morghanphoenixevil evil evil01:25
alitis4damn it......01:25
alitis4i can't use my microphone..01:25
mefisto__after reinstalling something, do you normally need to restart kde, or reboot?01:26
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alitis4guys01:30
alitis4i run alsamixer01:30
alitis4and i see the inpiut source01:30
alitis4micro01:30
alitis4how i can turn it on ?01:30
morghanphoenixI can watch commercial DVDs, update my iPod, even take files off of it but I can't listen to audiobooks or read ebooks from the library.01:30
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ricaneliteGood morning all, Is there a new Firefox I think 2.0 that came with the new Edgy release this past thursday?01:32
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morghanphoenixSo there's no way to play the wma files windows media player is supposed to automatically decrypt.01:32
alitis4morghanphoenix, try mplayer01:32
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morghanphoenixAllready tried, says they're encrypted.01:33
morghanphoenixAnd I do have the codes properly installed.01:33
morghanphoenix*codecs01:33
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sam_hey can anyone tell me where i can get w32codecs ?01:36
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Jucato!w32codecs > sam_01:36
sam_i have tried apt-getting it01:36
Jucatosam_: in the RestrictedFormats, there are instructions on how to get it01:36
Jucatoyou can't apt-get it01:37
alitis4guys, i run kmix, i make some changes,... but they dodn't save... why01:37
morghanphoenixnot aptable01:37
Kiongku!w32codecs01:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:37
sam_thanks!01:37
radek_when u have probs try ubuntu forums01:37
sam_that was quick..01:37
Jucatohm.. I already sent the factoid in a PM...01:37
radek_someone here uses VLC Player ?01:38
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xsachagrr any idea why my glxgears would suddenly drop 50% and it just feels slower without anything changing? went from 13700/5 to 9600/5 fps :(01:43
twosouls82a good day to you all :)01:43
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Gazhi01:44
morghanphoenixEdgy?01:44
xsachayeah edgy01:44
Gazdoes anybody here know how about mplayer in Opera?01:44
xsachabut i havent done an update or changed xorg or anything, gah01:44
morghanphoenixseems to be more than a few glx problems, it's why I'm still on dapper.01:44
lukkienHello to all01:45
Gazhey lukkien :)01:45
xsachanaah i had 13000 on edgy, it just dropped to 9000 for no reason01:45
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lukkienDoes somebody now how to install flashplayer01:45
xsachawhich tells me something has changed, but i dont know what01:45
Jucatolukkien: look for the flashplugin-nonfree package. you need to enable multiverse01:45
xsachaJucato: no 64-bit version right? :P01:46
lukkienthanks01:46
Jucatoxsacha: none. :(01:46
morghanphoenixThey should really launch the page that tells you how to do all that as soon as you get a fresh install up and running.01:47
xsachausing firefox32 with flash right now, but would like 64-bit version so i can use konqueror01:47
Jucatoonly way to get that is through wine...01:47
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xsachathere was some flash plugin in repositories, but they just crash whenever something is on the webpage that uses flash (crash the plugin, not konqueror)01:48
lukkienI run now konqueror an i need the flash plugin01:48
lukkieni need to now the pad /usr/lib/???01:48
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Jucatolukkien: what?01:49
morghanphoenixWhat I need is a windows media player plugin that redirects them to mplayer or kaffeine.01:49
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morghanphoenixIs there something like that?01:49
morghanphoenixI can play wma and wmv formats, but can't get them to run embedded.01:50
Jucatolukkien: once you install "flashplugin-nonfree", in Konqueror, go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Plugins -> Scan for new plugins. it will automatically be detected01:50
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Gazmorghan, i've the same problem here01:51
Gaztrying to get mplayer installed, and working, in opera01:51
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xsachamorghanphoenix: mplayer doesnt do it? have you tried vlc?01:51
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morghanphoenixI usually use konqueror, but have opera around for the few pages konq can't seem to handle properly.01:51
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xsachamplayer is *meant* to do wma/wmv, the quality -- i dont know01:51
Jucatoisn't there an embedded mplayer of sorts for Konqueror?01:51
xsachayes01:51
morghanphoenixI will play them if there's an option to download or open the file directly, but won't play them as plugins, mplayer I mean.01:52
slow-motionhallo01:52
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Gazcan i get an embedded one with opera, maybe as well?01:52
xsachacan opera use netscape plugins?01:52
Gazi think so01:52
twosouls82yep xsacha01:52
morghanphoenixYes, and mozilla ones too.01:52
xsachawell should work fine01:52
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Gazonly.... it doesn't01:53
Gaz:(01:53
twosouls82you should add the plugin path to Opera's config thought01:53
paineshi01:53
twosouls82-t01:53
Gaztwosouls: how do i do that?01:53
painesI just installed the amd64 version. I cannot execute 32 bit apps !?!?! what happend ?01:53
twosouls82lemme install Opera :\01:53
xsachaGaz: are you getting: pluginwrapper exited cleanly with exit code 1 during plug-in detection ?01:53
Gazum...01:54
Gazheh :D01:54
Gazvery very new to linux01:54
twosouls82xsacha: that means good01:54
xsachapaines: do you have linux32? allows you to run 32-bit apps..01:54
painesxsacha: yes. same01:54
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twosouls82Gaz, installed.. looking into it01:55
thavenHi. I recently moved from Mandriva to Kubuntu, but i have a little problem now. Kubuntu is loading the acx driver for my wlan card, which is not correct. Actually there seems to be no good linux driver, but it works nice with ndiswrapper. How can I get Kubuntu to automatically load ndiswrapper at boottime instead of the acx driver?01:55
morghanphoenixns4pluginproxy01:55
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Gazthanks :))01:55
morghanphoenixThat, flash and java on mine, still no embedded wm-whatevers.01:56
twosouls82Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced (tab) -> Content (on the left) -> plug-in options01:56
twosouls82Gaz ---^01:56
morghanphoenixAny specific plug-in I should have?01:57
twosouls82there you can add the path to the paths, it is semicolon seperated01:57
morghanphoenixI have the ns4 thing, isn't that it?01:57
xsachamorghanphoenix: you have mplayer plugin and restricted formats it should just work, what's the error?01:57
Gaztrying out :)01:57
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morghanphoenixNo error, it just doesn't play.01:57
twosouls82Gaz, this is my path '/usr/lib/opera/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins:/usr/lib/browser-plugins:/usr/lib/firefox/plugins:/usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc6'01:58
morghanphoenixPlank white box saying plug-incontent, where the plug-in should be running.01:58
twosouls82ooops, no semicolons :p01:58
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Gazinstalling mplayer from adept, and mozilla-mplayer thingy01:58
Gazheh :)01:58
painesxsacha: ia32-libs were missing01:58
twosouls82Gaz, I thought you already had it01:58
xsacha:P01:59
xsachathere is 3 different packages you need for linux3201:59
xsachamorghanphoenix: try Real Player01:59
Gazi do now01:59
twosouls82great01:59
Gazlets have a try :)01:59
twosouls82Gaz, lemme know if you don't succeed02:00
Gazok02:00
xsachamorghanphoenix: is mplayer working at all? like can you view anything on a webpage with mplayer?02:00
morghanphoenixOkay, I was trying to avoid that since I converted all my rmvb files.02:01
morghanphoenixyeah02:01
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morghanphoenixMPlayer is working fine, it was just wm-whatevers that wouldn't play.02:01
Gazmplayer no work :(02:01
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morghanphoenixAnd I play the files with mplayer, just some sites don't have the option to open the file directly.02:02
twosouls82Gaz: have you installed the codecs it uses to play?02:02
xsachamorghanphoenix: you have all of these packages: w32codecs mplayer mozilla-mplayer and libdvdcss2?02:02
Gaztwosouls82: yeah02:02
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Gazfrom automatix202:02
Gazthe multimedia codecs02:02
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xsachamorghanphoenix: you should never have to open the file directly, it'll play inside the browser if you have mplayer plugin detected by browser02:03
twosouls82Gaz: what doesn't work?02:03
mefisto__Gaz:  you need the other codecs from automatix2, for w32codecs, etc02:03
Jucatowarning: not all bash scripts might work in Edgy02:03
Gazwell, when i load a video, be it mpeg quicktime or wmv, a blank box is there02:03
thavenmorghanphoenix: kaffeine starter plugin something for you? it will play embedded videos in Kaffene instead.02:04
twosouls82!restrictedformats | Gaz02:04
ubotuGaz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:04
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morghanphoenixanybpody know a fast-loading site to test the wma playback, think it's fixed now.02:05
lukkienwhen i want to install de adobe flash he ask me the the path02:06
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alitis4guys02:06
Jucatolukkien: did you even follow the link that was PM'd to you?02:06
alitis4guys, i can listen my micro, only if turn the the volume high02:06
alitis4what i should do ?02:06
Jucato!flash | lukkien02:06
ubotulukkien: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:06
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Jucatolukkien: you don't have to (maybe not even recommended) to install the one from Adobe directly02:07
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moshy everybody02:12
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moswhat is su?02:12
Jucato!su02:12
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:12
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morghanphoenixWell, that was much better, had to ctrl+alt+esc it when I tried to load a plug-in that time.02:13
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Gazstill not playing02:15
Gazi've installed the totem plugins as well02:15
morghanphoenixAnd now opera's not even loading.02:15
morghanphoenixtrying cli launch to see if I get errors.02:16
flaccidi get this when trying to run opera opera: Module initialization failure. No memory to complete operation (-2)02:17
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flaccidjust upgraded to 9.102:17
flaccidhmm02:17
morghanphoenixStupid lock files02:17
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esaymhey when fdisk is forced to run due to an unclean unmount, where does it log info too?02:17
esaymafter it ran it put some red text out but i didnt get a chance to read it before it rebooted02:18
softmastercan Kaffeine play rm & rmvb files?02:18
Jucatosoftmaster: yes. rmvb definitely02:18
softmasterhow02:18
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Jucatojust needs the w32codecs02:18
Jucatoor is it libxine-extracodecs... hm...02:19
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Jucatoprobably both :)02:19
softmasterhow to get win32 codecs02:19
eilkerhi people what do i need for lan ? samba etc ? i have modem one pc one laptop, i wanna share each other?02:19
Jucatosoftmaster: download and install the w32codecs .deb file. um.. works only on 32-bit machines02:19
Jucato!w32codecs > softmaster02:19
Kiongkuhmm02:19
Jucatosoftmaster: see the link that was sent to you. the RestrictedFormats page02:19
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Jucatothere are instructions there (scroll down a bit)02:20
Kiongkuafter sam now softmaster02:20
Kiongkulol jucato u must put up a bot for that :p02:20
Gazdo i need to restart opera after installing new plugins?02:20
moswhen i try to run adept it says conversation whit su failed02:20
Kiongkugaz probably02:20
ccomp5950Gaz: yes02:20
JucatoKiongku: there already is02:20
Gazheh02:20
softmasterok thanks02:20
Gazlol dint think of that :{02:20
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Jucato!w32codecs > Kiongku02:20
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eilkerhi people what do i need for lan ? samba etc ? i have modem one pc one laptop, i wanna share each other? laptop is suse, pc is kubuntu...02:21
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mosi'm quite new at this..02:21
Dr_williseilker,  if both pc's have a network port.. 1 single crossover network cable will do it.02:21
Dr_williseilker,  or 2 normal cables and a switch/hub.02:21
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Dr_williseilker,  when you say 'modem' you mean a dial up modem?02:22
eilkeradsl modem02:22
Dr_willisand how is it connecting to the pc?02:22
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eilkerby ethernet to both of them02:22
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eilkerit may connect ?02:23
Dr_willisyou both of them>02:23
Dr_willisYou got 2 cablec comming from the dsl modem to the 2 pcs ?02:23
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eilkeri yes sir exactly02:23
esaymoh crap, i ment fsck, where does fsck log to?02:23
Dr_willisthe dsl modem has 2 network jacks then? that somthing ive never seen befor.02:24
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eilkerit has 4 ports02:24
Dr_willisthats a nifty thing then...02:24
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Dr_willismust be a dsl modem and router combined.02:24
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eilkeryes sir, sorry it is adsl router02:25
Dr_willisget on pc #1 check its ip, check #2 see its ip..  then see if #1 can ping #2 :)02:25
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JucatoDr_willis: I have one like that too. but I can't determine whether it's a multi-port modem or a router02:25
eilkerping is ok i already tried02:25
Dr_willisIf they both are on the same router/network.. they are networked... :)  and you got a lan.02:25
Dr_williseilker,  so.... what was the problem then? Lol.02:25
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eilkerDr_willis: i cant see files02:26
Dr_willis'see files' is not the same as networking. :)02:26
eilkerDr_willis: i mean i can ping but i cant enter to another pc02:26
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eilkerDr_willis: i cant take files02:26
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Dr_willisyou can use the sshfs, or fish:// feature of konqueror (if you got ssh installed on both pc's) to transfer files around02:27
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Dr_willisfish://username@hostname02:27
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Dr_willisof fish://ip.of.the.other.box02:28
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eilkerDr_willis: what about kde public server02:28
Dr_williseilker,  there samba, then ssh, then nfs, as ways to 'get to' other  machine02:28
Dr_willisi never mess with the kde public server.. not sure how it works.02:28
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Dr_willisI tend to use 'fish://'02:28
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eilkernew linux user here:) samba is ok?02:28
eilkerlet me try samba ?02:29
Dr_willissamba can work.. but it needs a little setting up.02:29
rolandohi02:29
Dr_willisEach linux user needs a samba password enabled.. "sudo smbpasswd -a LINUXUSERNAME"   on each box.02:29
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rolandowhere is my HD when i boot with the kubuntu live CDp02:29
rolando_02:29
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Dr_williseilker,  in the konqueror address bar try the fish:\\ip# thing.02:29
eilkeroki sir02:30
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rolandowhat is the path_02:30
danny500I have a question02:30
Dr_willisroland,  i dont think they are mounted by default.  look in the storage media stuff and see if the icons are there... right click and mount.  they 'should' appear in /media/02:30
rolandoDr_willis: that is what i thought but media is empty02:30
Dr_willisi use so many differnt live cd;s02:30
danny500do they make the game Stratosphere: Conquest of the Skies for Linux?02:30
Dr_willisroland,  ya could always mount them manually02:31
danny500or is it just a windows game?02:31
Dr_willisdanny500,  check that 'linux game tome' if it exists they should have info on it.02:31
rolandoDr_willis: and how do i do that_02:31
danny500ok02:31
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Dr_willisroland,  sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1   (or similer)02:31
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rolandook thanx02:31
danny500thanx doctor02:31
Dr_willisroland,  what are you trying to mount exactly? ntfs/windows/linux?02:32
BluesKajHowdy All02:32
JontyI reconfigured X using dpkg-reconfigure, and now all my keyboard layouts are gone. What can I do?02:32
Dr_willisI got the Linux Game TOme in my 'bookmarks/rss feeds' :) so i see all the altest games02:32
eilkerDr_willis: fish://10.0.0.12 is this ok ?02:33
Dr_williseilker,  been faster to try it and see. :P then ask.. lol02:33
Dr_williseilker,  try it and see.02:33
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BluesKajDoes anyone have a scanner connected and working in edgy or dapper , even ? Edgy doesn't see my HP3500c :(02:33
eilkerDr_willis: it gave connect so that i asked:)02:34
eilkerDr_willis: it gave connection error so that i asked:)02:34
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Dr_williseilker,  heh - what error then? You may need ssh installed on the machines..02:34
Dr_willisI forget whats installed by default these days02:34
eilkerDr_willis: it gave connection error so that i asked:)02:35
Dr_willistry 'ssh 10.0.0.12'  and see if ya can get over that way02:35
Dr_willis!info ssh02:35
ubotussh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB02:35
Dr_willisits 'optional' so it needs to be installed. I think.02:35
JontyI reconfigured X using dpkg-reconfigure, and now all my keyboard layouts are gone. What can I do? Here's the keyboard section of my xorg.conf: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/237102:35
eilkerok sir thanx:)02:35
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esaymanyone know off hand what is the ext3 tuning program command02:36
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daftvaderhi02:36
esaymsomething like extune or something02:36
daftvaderhas anyone upgrade to edgy with problems?02:36
Jontydaftvader: YES02:36
daftvaderi have heaps of problems02:36
BluesKajJonty, sys/settings/keybrd & mouse02:36
Dr_willistune<tab> ---> tune2fs  tun02:36
Jontydaftvader: I agree02:36
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Dr_willisI did a clean install of edgy. No big hassles02:37
Jontydaftvader: But I managed to overcome them all. Try it02:37
Jucatoproblems problems problems....02:37
tiger_itdaftvader: no...... but sometimes problems with dependecies suing aptitutude instead of apt-get02:37
daftvaderjonty for some reason I cannot run my linux on my k7 kernel02:37
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tiger_itdaftvader: apt-ger: fine02:37
esaymhey thanks Dr_willis02:37
daftvadertiger_it i used apt-get but I received alot of problem, now my linux won't boot into kernel k702:37
JontyBluesKaj: Where's that?02:37
esaymyou wouldnt know off hand where fsck logs to would you?02:37
daftvaderthat's the smp kernel02:38
Dr_willis- /var/log  would be my guess02:38
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tiger_itdaftvader: sorry ........ I dindt try K7 kernel........yet02:38
esaymcant find anything in there02:38
daftvaderwell it boot in but nvidia cannot run02:38
esaymslocate turns upo nothing too02:38
Dr_willisif fsck is checking a partition.. and the partition is not mounted.. how can it log anything?02:38
JontyBluesKaj: If you're talking about Settings > Regional & Accesibility > Keyboard Layout, that doesn't work02:38
rysiek|plhi all02:38
daftvadertiger_it: i cannot see my new usplash screen properly, it is stretched02:39
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daftvaderand distorted02:39
esaymit checked it when it booted, but yea i see your point..hmmmm02:39
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rysiek|plasked that on #ubuntu, but got no answer: I have just managed to rm -rf /etc/ssl/ (now don't you *even ASK* how). how can I reinstall openssl so the config's are back on their places02:39
daftvaderwhat is wrong02:39
esaymit gave an error in red text before it rebooted after checking, tryign to figure out what it was02:39
Dr_williswow.. a little bity comercial game for linux.. $19.95  Dirk Dashing: Secret Agent released for Linux  http://mygamecompany.swmirror.com/dirkdashingsetup_linux1_0.bin02:39
BluesKajbummer Jonty , sorry to hear that :(02:39
Dr_willisheh.02:39
daftvader;(02:39
heinkel_111something screwed up with my graphics in the upgrade to dapper...dark grey colours break up into petroleum-shiny greenpinkvioletstuff :(02:39
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JontyBluesKaj: There's no layouts available02:40
rysiek|pldaftvader: "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep vga" and paste it here02:40
JontyDr_willis: There's a demo? Cool! I just got 3D support working02:40
heinkel_111i dunno what is the problem02:40
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daftvader## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda502:41
JontyI reconfigured X using dpkg-reconfigure, and now all my keyboard layouts are gone. What can I do? Here's the keyboard section of my xorg.conf: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/237102:41
daftvaderrysiek|pl: is that normal?02:41
Dr_willisdoh it crashed02:42
BluesKajJonty, maybe a kde update ?02:42
daftvadermate just use vista02:42
daftvaderlol02:42
rysiek|pldaftvader: copy your /boot/grub/menu.lst to, say, menu.lst.orig, and sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst - delete every occurence of "vga=XXX"02:42
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rysiek|pldaftvader: vista? for what? waste 1GB opf RAM just to have transparency, when I have it with xgl and 300MB? :] 02:43
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daftvaderrysiek|pl: I was kidding about vista. There is no occurence of vga, it has been commented out02:43
Dr_willisOk. Dirk Dashing crashed.. :)02:43
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larson9999still can't fathom why people consider transparency of windows an asset02:44
rysiek|pldaftvader: hmmm... ok, let's try the other way around. what monitor do you have? lcd?02:44
moshy02:44
BluesKajsudo apt-get update is stuck at 'free.contrib.org' source02:44
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mosi'm back again02:44
daftvaderrysiek|pl: yes02:44
daftvaderrysiek|pl: it is ok in dapper02:44
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rysiek|pldaftvader: what is the default resolution for your monitor?02:44
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JucatoBluesKaj: probably PLF for Edgy is down02:45
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sorush20hi I keep getting the message that reboot and shutdown commands are not found any ideas?02:45
softmastercan i use arabic subtitles for videos especially rmvb and xvid videos in kubuntu?02:45
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rysiek|plsoftmaster: yeah, you just need to use the correct font and encoding.02:45
mosi ca'nt install anything..can someone enlight me?02:45
daftvaderrysiek|pl: it is the 24' monitor02:45
sorush20why isn't the install cd using the live cd installation method. is that only available for the live cd or desktop cd?02:45
Jontymos: enlighten us as to the symptoms02:46
daftvaderrysiek|pl: but isn't the default res only get set after x get started?02:46
rysiek|plsoftmaster: you can set them in the configuration of your media player02:46
Jontymos: why can't you install anything02:46
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softmasterhow to open the subtitle files02:46
mosi try to run adept02:46
Jontymos: do you not know how or is it an error02:46
daftvaderrysiek|pl: this is the splash screen straight after grub02:46
rysiek|pldaftvader: that's what we are just goiung to change :)02:46
rysiek|pldaftvader: I know. I have it at 1024x768 for instance02:46
Jontymos: try kdesu synaptic02:46
mosafter i type my password it says conversation whit su failed02:46
rysiek|pldaftvader: does your monitor handle 1024x768?02:46
daftvaderrysiek|pl: yes02:47
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mosi don't have synaptic installed02:47
daftvaderrysiek|pl: just to check if you know what I am talking about, i am refering to the usplash screen that loads thing up before xserver02:47
softmasterhow to open the subtitle files02:48
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daftvaderrysiek|pl: or the login screen02:48
BluesKajbbl02:48
softmasterand what is the proper encoding for arabic?02:48
mosi'm using the alternate package of daper drake02:48
rysiek|pldaftvader: yes, I am refering to the resolution that usplash is being displayed at all the time :)02:48
sorush20does the alternate cd or the desktop cd have the live cd on it?02:49
daftvaderrysiek|pl: cool, how can I change it so that it is displayed properly02:49
rysiek|pldaftvader: ok, in tha menu.lst file you have stanzas, try adding "vga=791" to the end of the "kernel:" line of the stanza that defines the boot option you use02:49
softmasterany helper here ?02:50
rysiek|pldaftvader: I suppose your monitor can't handle the resolution uspolash is being displayed by default, so we'll change that to 1024x768 this way02:50
rysiek|plsoftmaster: google for it, if you use it yoiou should know.02:50
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daftvadertry adding "vga=791" to the end of the "kernel:" - what does that mean02:51
daftvadercan you give me an example02:51
sorush20did anyon even see my question..02:51
sorush20this channel is becoming really bad..02:51
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rysiek|pldaftvader: moment02:51
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rysiek|pldaftvader: BEFORE: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-k7 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash02:52
rysiek|pldaftvader: AFTER: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-k7 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash vga=79102:52
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rysiek|pldaftvader: REMEMBER TO BACK THE MENU.LST FILE BEFORE DOING THIS, thank you :)_02:52
daftvaderyep already backup02:53
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Dr_willisHmm.. you may want to try 'vga=ASK' (or ask)   and seeing what options are  allowed02:53
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Dr_willisalso closer to the top of the menu.lst is a location to set the vga= line for all new kerneles.. if you do a update-grub your change/edit will be overwritten.02:54
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Dr_willisYou can ALSO edit the grub menu/entrys on the fly at boot time by hitting escape  (to see the menu) then E to edit the lines.02:54
daftvaderrysiek|pl: my nvidia also doesn't seem to work with 2.6.15-25-k7 kernel anymore after edgy02:54
daftvaderrysiek|pl: it used to work with dapper02:54
rysiek|pldaftvader: you'll need to reinstall it.02:55
rysiek|pldaftvader: I mean nvidia02:55
daftvaderrysiek|pl: yes i used apt-get02:55
daftvaderrysiek|pl: it said it is already updated02:55
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daftvaderrysiek|pl: and is latest. How do I reinstall nvidia with edgy again?02:55
rysiek|pldaftvader: don't know about nvidia (ATI user here) but I use the installer from ATI's website, nod the drivers from the repos02:55
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danny500How do I install a .run program?02:56
rysiek|pl*not02:56
daftvaderah i see02:56
Dr_willissh whatever.run02:56
Dr_willisactually may be better to use02:56
daftvaderI'll reboot and check the usplash and I'll let you know02:56
Dr_willisbash whatever.run02:56
daftvaderthanks for the help so far rysiek|pl02:56
rysiek|pldaftvader: nop02:56
danny500in the terminal02:56
Dr_willisof course. :P02:56
danny500ok thanx brb02:56
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sorush20is anyon even hearing me?02:57
Dr_willissorush20, moo! :)02:57
Dr_willissorush20, eh sonny? what ya say?02:57
esbensorush20: I don't believe the alternate CD has the live CD, no02:57
esbenDapper didn't, anyway02:58
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Dr_willisthe DVD  has both live and alt install on it..02:58
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danny500dr. it didn't work02:59
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danny500Dr_Willis, this is were it is , /home/danny500/Desktop/dominions3demo_installer.run , how would I type this into the terminal to install it?03:01
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rysiek|pldanny500: bash /home/danny500/Desktop/dominions3demo_installer.run03:02
tommyHi jemand hier der deutsch kann?03:02
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danny500ok I'll try that hold on03:02
Jontyor chmod +x /file/you/want/to run then /file/you/want/to/run03:03
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Dr_willisgee i would just cd to the Desktop :)03:03
Dr_williswhat theres a domonions3 demo?!?!03:03
Dr_willisCool!03:03
rysiek|pltommy: #ubuntu.de03:03
tommythx03:03
Dr_willisi looked for that game at the stores the other day.03:03
danny500it say's:03:03
danny500bash /home/danny500/Desktop/dominions3demo_installer.run03:03
danny500/home/danny500/Desktop/dominions3demo_installer.run: /home/danny500/Desktop/dominions3demo_installer.run: cannot execute binary file03:03
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danny500now what?03:04
BluesKajis there a command that lists all connected, recognized hardware and auxiliary devices in Edgy?03:04
Dr_williscd to where its at...03:04
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Dr_willischmod +x thatfile03:04
Dr_willis./thatfile03:04
danny500ok I'll try that then hold on03:04
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danny500it just goes to another blank text area and does nothing, now what?03:05
Dr_willisim still trying to fidn a download site.03:05
sorush20where are the recommened isos for the cds on the download page?03:05
Dr_willisyou ran ./dominions3demo_intaller.run03:05
danny500o so you can install it your self and tell me how ou did it?03:05
sorush20via bittorent03:05
danny500yeah03:06
Dr_willisall the (#*@&*@ download sites i can find are in russian03:06
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danny500go to goggle and look up Dominion 3, thats what I did03:06
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doph089how long is the startup-time for kubuntu?03:07
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danny5004 hours03:07
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doph089from i turn my pc on to when its ready for use03:07
danny500joking depends how fast your computer is03:08
sorush20much longer that windows03:08
zarephathanyone in here running PPC architecture?03:08
doph089say a pretty new pc (Conroe E6600, 4 gb ram, 7900gs)03:08
danny500thats a really hard question to answer when we don't know what you have in your computer03:08
Dr_willisdanny500,  figure that.. the homepage was not the #1 google hit.03:08
danny500lol03:08
Dr_willisdownloading now... 13 min.03:09
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BluesKajhttp://www.ubuntu.com/news/610released03:09
Dr_williswait.. download failed...03:09
Dr_willis*joy*03:09
danny500lol03:09
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danny500I'm using a 550MHzP3 , 256MB SDRAM, 8MB intergrated graphics card with intergration up to 256, and I downloaded that file in 2 minutes03:10
Dr_willishttp://www.gamershell.com/download_15828.shtml03:10
danny500man my computer sucks03:11
Dr_willis2 min? wtf server did ya yse..03:11
danny500hold on I'll find it03:11
Dr_willisOR did the download just SEEM to dwnload.. whats its filesize. that may be the issue03:11
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Dr_willishttp://www.gamershell.com/download_15828.shtml03:11
Dr_willis97.28mb03:11
danny500yeah03:12
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danny500well actually mines 97.3mb03:12
zarephathDr_Willis: Is it turn based?03:12
Dr_willisjoy - the download went from 145 mb/s to 9  to 003:12
danny500no RTS03:12
Dr_williszarephath,   not sure. :)03:12
danny500like AoE03:13
zarephathdanny500: You replying to me? Real time strategy?03:13
danny500yeah03:13
zarephathAhhh..kewl03:13
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Dr_willissince i cant get it downloaded.. dont look like i will ever find out.03:13
zarephathDr_Willis: :-(03:13
LockUpI've Esperanza CD-R (not CD-RW) - x16 x32 x56.03:13
danny500what type of connection you have?03:13
Dr_willishttp://www.shrapnelgames.com/Illwinter/Dom3/1.htm03:13
LockUpWhat does mean the second parametre?03:14
Dr_williscable modem03:14
danny500yeah, thats the one I used03:14
danny500http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Illwinter/Dom3/1.htm03:14
Dr_willishttp://download.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/dominions3demo_installer.run03:14
danny500I use a cable modem to, I have a 7MBps connection, you?03:14
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Dr_willisi can max out at about 400-500kb/s ive seen. :)03:15
Dr_willisbut it dont matter what i can do - if the servers aint giving it to me03:15
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soulriderhi everyone03:15
danny5000.5MBps !!!!03:15
jcf_from_arHi. All repositories seem to be down for me. adept freeze "waiting for headers". sources.list are checked. Any idea?03:15
soulrideri download at 50 KB/s :P03:16
Dr_willisif the server is only letting you get 10k/s thats all ya get. :(03:16
Dr_willisservers seem to be the bottleneck these days03:16
BluesKajDL-ing the edgy ISO at 525kbs...quite good03:16
zarephathDr_Willis: It seems to be grabbing it fine for me...U want me to DCC it to you when I am done d/loading? I don't have a fast upstream but it will be consistent03:16
Dr_willisHeck that URL isent even starting the download...03:17
danny500man, I downloaded a music cd yesturday and It came in at 3000KBps!03:17
Tm_TDr_willis: Depends what mirrors you use.03:17
zarephathdanny500: What type of connection do ya have?03:17
Dr_williswget http://download.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/dominions3demo_installer.run03:17
danny500cogeco 7MBps03:17
sorush20why do I keep getting the message that command not found reboot and shutdown ?03:17
danny500high speed03:17
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Dr_willisNOW im getting it at 300 K/s03:17
danny500good03:18
Dr_willisi even asked about that game at a store last week... they never heard of it.03:18
BluesKajdanny500, where are you in canada...near sudbury here ...using sympatico UHS dsl03:18
Dr_willis:)03:18
mirshafiesince i upgraded to edgy only /home and /media will show up in different fs dialogs, such as ktorrent save location, firefox dialogs et.c. what the hell is this? and how can i fix it?03:18
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Dr_willismirshafie,  thats a feature.03:18
danny500I live in Welland Ontario03:19
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Dr_willis!hidden03:19
ubotuKubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles03:19
mirshafieDr_willis:  that feture sucks!03:19
Dr_willismirshafie,  remove the /.hidden file or edit it.03:19
mirshafieok03:19
dalbirdyhas anyone here used vmware on there kubuntu machine?03:19
Dr_willismirshafie,  tell the devs..  you can always enter the whole /path/to/things03:19
Dr_willisdalbirdy,   i use vmware server all the time03:19
zarephathDr_willis: Like to run windows :-O03:20
dalbirdyhow can I get the sound to work inside vmware....running win xp?03:20
danny500how do I change the colour of my chat name?03:20
BluesKajis there a command that lists all connected, recognized hardware and auxiliary devices in Edgy?03:20
Dr_williszarephath,  i use win98 under it at times03:20
zarephathdalbirdy: Did you install the soundcard in the virtual machine?03:20
Dr_willisdalbirdy,  not sure.. i dont think sound works on my w98 vmware setup either.03:20
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zarephathIf you have sound in Linux you *should* have sound in VMWare03:20
dalbirdyit shows that i have a sound blaster03:21
Dr_willissound works under vmware in my linux sessions.. but w98 dont seem to want to play sounds..03:21
dalbirdywhich i do ....an audigy 203:21
zarephathHmmm...I have always had sound in VMWare on linux03:21
dalbirdyi am also having issues getting usb recognition03:21
zarephathThat is running windows03:21
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zarephathdalbirdy: I am not sure about the level of driver support for the Audigy 2 in linux...if it is fully supported more likely to run in a virtualized environment03:22
dalbirdymy main system is Kubuntu03:22
dalbirdyeverything works VERY GOOD03:22
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danny500Why is Apple/Mac being so C@cky in their commercials?03:22
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dalbirdyexcept running vmware i get no sound or usb03:23
twosouls82ask them03:23
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dalbirdysomthing to play with i guess until i get it to work03:23
BluesKajcuz they think they're immune to the problems that MS windows has securitywise and otherwise03:23
Lynouredalbirdy: that's how wmwore is, if I remember right03:23
danny500It's making me angry cause they keep saying that theMac can do this and the Mac can do that but Windows has been doing all those things for years03:24
twosouls82so?03:24
twosouls82ads sucks always03:24
dalbirdyit patsy fies my wife so i guess that is good enough03:24
mirshafiejust thought i should thank you Dr_willis, the hidden files thing has annoyed me for a long time. thanks03:24
twosouls82s/sucks/suck03:24
danny500really they should keep there mouth shut because that really scares off potential buyer's03:24
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Lynouredalbirdy: it's meant to be for services, mostly, so it (apart from possibly the for-fee desktop version) there is no usb or sound on it. Not a fault of Ubuntu, but a decision of WMware company03:25
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BluesKajdanny500, it appeals to ppl's 'pride of ownership" ...read snob appeal, as well03:25
danny500yeah03:25
dalbirdyso they do have ways to make it work if you pay for it.....that sucks!!03:26
BluesKajwell windows does the same03:26
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danny500not as bad though03:26
Lynouredalbirdy: they have to make their living somehow03:26
twosouls82they all do03:26
twosouls82that's commerence, this is freedom03:27
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Dr_willismirshafie,  i kind of like it.. but it should be a per-user setting.. and that .hidden file MAY reappear when you upgrade/update03:27
dalbirdyI prefer kubuntu anyway my wife just cant seem to grasp it....so she wines until i do something that she can handle03:27
danny500see Mac is trying to belittle windows by throughing cheap shoots at them on TV but Windows has never done that to Mac03:27
Dr_willismirshafie,  perm fix i hear is to make a blank one.03:27
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danny500Windows minds there own business03:27
BluesKajI don't see any linux ads on TV , except maybe on "Call for Help"03:27
danny500thats because Linux can't afford it03:27
sistemasgood morning to all people03:28
Dr_willisLinux dont need to. :)03:28
danny500notice how Linux is free03:28
twosouls82:\03:28
danny500I like Linux for everything except games03:28
twosouls82welcome sistemas03:28
sistemasI am peruvian and I a user of Kubuntu 6.0603:28
BluesKajexactly...now you get it , danny500 :)03:28
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danny500no viruses, can't go wrong with that03:28
Dr_willisI was telling guys at work..  if sony would come out with a "special Linux-Everquest OS" would you change if it gave you better EQ performace? they all yelled YESS!03:28
Dr_willis:)03:28
danny500lol03:29
Dr_willisPlaying Second Live under Linux at the moment... i still dont see the point of the thing.03:29
mirshafieDr_willis: i wouldn't mind it if there was a button or something in the k dialogs so that you could view the dirs when you want to. but i just commented every line of .hidden out, it did the trick.03:29
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Dr_willismirshafie,  under firefox dialog i just click that one button ent tyoe the /path/whatever.  :) out of habbit i guess03:29
BluesKajDr_willis, is there a command that lists all connected, recognized hardware and auxiliary devices in Edgy?03:30
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danny500Linix should make an OS that can take and use system files from any OS install disk like a windows xp install dvd for example03:30
Dr_willislspci gives a lot of them03:30
Dr_williskde has that hardware tool in its control-center03:30
dakoHow do you change permission for a folder in your home directory?03:30
Dr_willisdako,  i use 'chmod ' command but you can right click and properties I think as well03:31
danny500so pretty much this new OS will be Linux mac and windows all at once03:31
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sistemassince many weeks, I have problems with the sound03:31
sistemasI can listen music in a browser03:31
sistemasbut I can't listen in my desktop03:32
dakoThe problem that I am having is that I made a share folder for my wife to dump pictures into then I copy them to a external USB drive. The main folder belongs to me but the folders inside belong to user nobody03:32
dalbirdysistemas: what os are you using?03:32
Dr_willisa samba share dont use the permissions that way i think.. I tend to just make a 'public' share for people to dump things to.03:32
Dr_willisbut i dont use the kde 'shareing' feature. i go old-skool and edit the samba.conf03:33
Dr_willis:)03:33
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dakoI used a trick from a web site, is the setup wrong, or should I have done it a different way?03:33
Dr_willisnot sure what trick ya did. :)03:33
dakoI am going through SWAT to use this setup03:33
dalbirdysistemas: what os are you using?03:33
Dr_willisi just edit the samba.conf and make a 'public' share.03:33
shadowhywindhay all, i was wondering if anyone else is having problems with hibernate with Edgy?03:33
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shadowhywindmy hibernate "pretends to hibernate" it locks the screen, turns the monitor off, and then it turns it back on.. any ideas?03:34
dalbirdyi am using dapper....and so far i have had no issue with hibernate03:34
sistemasI using firefox03:34
dakoI tried to do that on the external USB, but I could not dump files into it from the laptop that is running windows03:35
Dr_willischmod +x dominions3demo_installer.run  && ./dominions3demo_installer.run03:35
shadowhywindi had no issues with hibernate in dapper eather03:35
KennyTheFreakI was wondering if anyone was having problems with upstart with edgy...03:35
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sistemasand I use Amarok to reproduce mp303:35
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dalbirdydoes anyone have any issue of making an audio cd out of mp3's....03:36
Dr_willisk3b needs a mp3 thing loaded to do so.03:36
dalbirdyi was so i converted the mp3 to ogg and it made an audiio cd for me03:36
Dr_williswell i got the DOmoniosn3 demo working. :)03:36
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Dr_willisdalbirdy,  the kubuntu faq - mentions the exact package needed to get k3b to read mp3's03:36
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larson9999is it just me or do most people think buying ring tones is moronic?03:36
sistemasI tried to test the sound in the system settings03:37
sistemasbut nothing03:37
dalbirdyDr. Willis...where do i get this mp3 thing....what is is called?03:37
soulriderdalbirdy: you gotta installa  package to do that03:37
sistemasI don't have son03:37
gnomefreak!mp303:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:37
Dr_willislarson9999,  my cell phone can use mp3's as ring tones.. but the NEW ones cant03:37
soulriderlarson9999: i thgink it is moronic :P03:37
dalbirdyok03:37
Dr_willisdalbirdy,  the KUBUNTU FAQ has a chapter on mp3 packages to install03:37
soulridermy cell can only use MIDI :(03:37
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dalbirdyim going there now03:38
sistemasI but why does I have sound in the browser but not in my dektop03:38
dakoI don't have a samba.conf file03:38
dakowhat sound driver are you using>03:40
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KennyTheFreakeither im deaf or my sound driver doesnt work...03:40
sorush20!rescue03:41
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ubotuTo rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"03:41
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dalbirdyfound it thanks03:41
sorush20the rescue is not exactly rescuing my system from booting in to busy box03:41
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TheGateKeepersorush20: won't your system boot up properly?03:43
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KennyTheFreakwheres the alsa-base config file?03:44
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daftvaderhi03:46
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daftvadercan anyone tell my where i can get my linux kernel source03:46
dalbirdyworks great thanks....Dr. W03:46
daftvaderwhat repository?03:46
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dako!mp303:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:46
zero_1hello pips!  this kinda might be OT here but i was researching on this opensuse kickoff menu and been trying to build it w/ no success.  some ubuntu users were able to successfully build it,i assume from svn sources.... anyone knows which version it was?03:47
dalbirdyunder the terminal03:47
NeedHelpcan anyone tell me kdm wouldn't show up on the display (its in the process tree) after i upgrade from dapper drake to edgy eft03:47
dalbirdyapt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential03:47
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gnomefreakzero_1: you mean slab?03:47
zero_1um yeah03:47
sistemasI 'm in alsamixer03:47
sistemasand it shows me that surround is off03:47
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aurora_help.. how to change owner database automatically from mysql to my user account everytime i create database03:47
dalbirdyyou have to be sudo to make the kernel headers install03:47
administratorhow can I update mu kubuntu?03:48
administratormy03:48
Dr_willisok.. i dont think i want to buy Domonions3  :)03:48
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Dr_willisI though there was also a new game out.. Savage3 ?03:48
dalbirdyapt-get dist-upgrade03:49
zero_1umm...my bad,the one on opensuse 10.2 beta03:49
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dalbirdyfor administrator....do this in the terminal....apt-get dist-upgrade03:49
NeedHelpcan anyone tell me why kdm wouldn't show up on the display (its in the process tree) atfer i upgrade from dapper drake to edgy eft03:49
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administratorthanks03:49
shadowhywindso does anyone have any ideas on why my hibernate would pretend to hibernate and not shutdown?03:49
dalbirdyi guess by default gdm is the chosen boot manager03:50
administratorE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)03:50
administratorE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?03:50
dalbirdyyou have to be su03:50
BluesKajStrange , my cpu is supposed run at 2Ghz , but according to the k-info center list the speed at 1Ghz ...what gives ?03:50
dalbirdytype the same thing but put sudo at the beginning03:50
aurora_administrator: start with sudo03:50
administratorsudo?03:50
daftvaderi need help: I cant get my k7 smp to run with Xorg after edgy eft upgrade03:50
dalbirdyexample........  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:51
administratoroh03:51
daftvaderi am using nvidia03:51
dalbirdythen give it the password03:51
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shadowhywindhow werid is this error, sudo shutdown -r now -> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 29 09:31:39 200603:51
aurora_help.. how to change owner database automatically from mysql to my user account everytime i create database03:51
administratorit didnt do anything...03:52
administrator0 updated...0 blah blah03:52
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dalbirdywhat exactly do you want to do?03:52
NeedHelpcan anyone tell me why kdm wouldn't show up on the display (its in the process tree) atfer i upgrade from dapper drake to edgy eft03:52
dalbirdyif it said 0 updated it is already up to date03:52
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administratorupdate the whole kubuntu...i get random crashes and i think an update woul work03:52
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dalbirdyhave you tried using the program automatix203:53
LjL!automatix03:53
ubotuAutomatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!03:53
daftvaderautomatix doesn't work with edgy03:53
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dalbirdyit doen't update the whole kubuntu but it will help you update the latest kde03:53
Zerb_RissAutomatix can cause loads of other problems anyways03:54
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daftvaderman this is really making my cranky03:54
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dalbirdyi have had no problems with it personally03:54
daftvader*me03:54
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sorush20no TheGateKeeper I keep getting botted into sandbox.03:54
Zerb_Rissdalbirdy, I've had luck with it on two installations but it ruined one03:54
jxnis there a way to get aiglx work on a dual screen setup?03:54
NeedHelpadminstrator, how owuld i update the whole kubuntu, i changed all of the repositiories in /etc/apt/sources.list from dapper to edgy. ran sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:54
dalbirdycome to think about it that is what i did too!!........thanks needhlp for jogging my memory03:55
Zerb_Riss!upgrade03:56
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)03:56
Zerb_Rissyou need to get more packages03:56
sistemasAny help?03:56
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daftvadercan some one please help me to get 2.6.15-27.k7 smp to work with my nvidia card03:56
daftvaderargh03:56
gsuvegRiddell: are you here ?03:56
daftvaderso annoying03:56
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daftvaderit used to work under dapper03:57
daftvadernow it doesn't work with edgy03:57
Zerb_Rissdaftvader, what is it doing?03:57
daftvaderZerb_Riss: it cannot startx03:58
Zerb_Rissdoes it give you any errors?03:58
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jxni would downgrade to dapper and wait for a working driver03:58
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daftvaderZerb_Riss: yes it does, it said that the x module is not compatible with the nvidia03:58
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daftvadersomething that x module has the version of 1.0877403:59
Zerb_Risswhat card do you have?03:59
daftvader7800 GTX03:59
daftvaderGFerce 7800 GTX03:59
TheGateKeepersorush20: ok I don't know if this is of any help, but I was getting the same thing after installing another distro & wanting to also boot back into the original, problem turned out to be me making mistakes in menu.lst03:59
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daftvaderthe thing that annoys me is that the system works fine under dapper04:00
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Zerb_Rissdaftvader, hmm... I have a 7600 GT and it works fine under Kubuntu Edgy04:00
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daftvaderi think upgrading to edgy change the X modulle04:00
Zerb_Rissdoes it work with the nv driver?04:00
shadowhywindwhere are the power settings located in edgy now? like the hibernate settings?04:00
daftvaderyes but do you run a k7 smp kernel?04:00
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sorush20TheGateKeeper:04:00
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sorush20I missed you reply04:00
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Zerb_Rissgood p[oint, but your problem has to do with the X server, not the kernel04:01
daftvaderit works ok with a 2.6.15 kernel but I have an AMD x2 4800+ dual core04:01
daftvaderyes04:01
TheGateKeepersorush20: ok I don't know if this is of any help, but I was getting the same thing after installing another distro & wanting to also boot back into the original, problem turned out to be me making mistakes in menu.lst04:01
daftvaderso how do I downgrade my X-server04:01
daftvaderto dapper04:01
Zerb_Rissyou shouldn't need to04:01
Zerb_Rissdo you have xserver-xorg and kubuntu-desktop installed?04:01
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daftvaderwell I am on kubuntu destop atm04:02
daftvaderbut using a kernel 2.6.17.10-38604:02
sorush20I never changed the menu list but I don't think that is the problem.. I do get the correct boot up but I get into sand box..04:02
sorush20TheGateKeeper: you mean the grub menu04:02
Zerb_Rissdaftvader, ah, so you're smp configuration is the only one with problems?04:02
daftvaderif i changed to a 2.6.15.27-k7 smp it doesn't run kubuntu04:02
TheGateKeepersorush20: yep04:02
daftvaderyes that is right04:02
daftvaderbut the question here is that it used to work perfectly in dapper04:03
daftvaderthe kernel doesn't change04:03
daftvaderthe nvidia driver doesn't change04:03
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Zerb_Rissdaftvader, yah I had a problem like that back when Dapper first came out, but it was with a nic card04:04
daftvaderZerb_Riss: but the funny thing is my friend04:04
daftvaderwhen I boot into with my 2.6.17 kernel, nvidia version is 877404:05
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daftvaderbut when i boot with my smp kernel, the system said that nvidia module is version 876204:05
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daftvaderso why?04:05
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Zerb_Rissheh no clue... do you have any upgrade candidates in apt?04:06
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daftvaderwhat do you mean by upgrade candidates04:08
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dalbirdyif i was to upgrade to edgy....do you think it would mess up my vmware setup?04:13
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IsossHey guys. I am having some problem with my konqourer. when I try to open system:/ it freezes .. and if I hesitate to close it and force it to terminate I might need to restart my system!04:13
Isossany idea what couldn the problem be?04:13
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jaba_vg#kubuntu-es04:15
jaba_vgcomo se va ayi?04:15
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daftvaderhow do i find my nvidia verison in the command line?04:15
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daftvader*version04:15
sistemasWhen I loading my desktop04:16
sistemas,there appear 12 crash reports04:16
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sistemasaobut i/o  buffer failed04:16
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Kiongkudalbirdy: probably.04:16
sistemas I use dmesg | grep -i falil04:16
sistemasfail04:16
dalbirdyi think i am going to leave it just like this for a while....04:17
sistemasand show me cdrom fail04:17
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sistemasDo anybody know the solution?04:17
weedarIs there a way to turn off holding back packages, in other words upgrade ALL upgradeable packages?04:18
Kiongkuweedar: enable everything in ur sources.list04:19
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Zerb_Riss!aiglx04:19
ubotuAIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.04:19
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Isosssorry got disconnected. any help concerning my problem?04:20
weedarKiongku: How do you mean? There are no lines that are commented out (except for actual comments)04:20
Zerb_Rissweedar, apt-get -u dist-upgrade|grep ^' '|xargs apt-get -y install04:20
Kiongkulsoss: what u mean by system:?04:21
weedarThanks a bundle Zerb_Riss, I'll have to do some thinking to understand what that actually did :) (but it works)04:22
Isossroot04:22
Kiongkuhmm04:23
sistemasplease I want to solve this problems04:23
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Kiongkuya need to learn those things myself.. argh.. codes..04:23
Zerb_Rissweedar, it just gets a list of all the package names that apt-get -u dist-upgrade return, greps through it for package names, then runs apt-get install on the results04:23
IsossI tried uninstalling and reinstalling the program to no avail! it doesn't seem broken!04:23
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Isossbut maybe it's a configuration problem!04:23
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weedarZerb_Riss: okay. I get alot of dependency errors though (and the -y installs anyway)04:24
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Zerb_Rissweedar, if you're upgrading to Edgy from Dapper you should follow these instructions exactly04:24
Zerb_Riss!upgrade | weedar04:24
ubotuweedar: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)04:24
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weedarZerb_Riss: I already upgraded from dapper to edgy, using the informatinon on kubuntu.org - just that alot of python packages were held back04:25
Zerb_Rissweedar, okay, it should be fine then04:25
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buffcould anyone tell me how to update sources.list on kubuntu 6.10   ?04:25
Isossbuff: edit it04:26
buffhow ?04:26
Isosssudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list04:26
sistemasother question04:27
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Isossor use any other editor instead of nano04:27
sistemasI have a integrated video card PCchips04:27
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sistemasCan I install openGL04:27
buffyes but what to type ?04:27
Ash-Fox!soundcard04:27
Isossbuff: what do u need to update exactly?04:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about soundcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:27
buffi mean ap-get isn't working04:28
sistemasNo is a integrated motherboard PCchips04:28
Isossbuff: please explain the problem!04:28
Zerb_Risssistemas, probably not, you're probably stuck with MesaGL04:28
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buffok, i wanna to install xchat but when i type 'sudo apt-get install xchat' it isn't working04:29
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Isossbuff: what error or out put do u get when you try to instal xchat?04:30
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sistemasI want to use openGL with my integrated video card04:30
sistemasCan I do that?04:30
Zerb_Rissprobably not04:30
bufflsoss  'couldn't find package'04:30
Zerb_Risssistemas, what kind of card is it?04:31
buffi think i need to enable repositories but i dont know how04:31
NeedHelpi followed the guide for updating from dapper drake to edgy eft in kubuntu, and when i run startx i get this error - (module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1)) and (Failed to load module "ati" (Module requirement mismatch,0)) and (no drivers available)04:31
sistemasDo you know whats PCchips?04:31
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sistemasDo you know what's PCchips?04:31
Isossxchat is a universe package. do u have your universe repositories activated in your sources.list?04:32
Isossenabled*04:32
Zerb_Risssistemas, that's the kind of motherboard you have04:32
sistemasyes04:32
Zerb_Risssistemas, we need to know what kind of card is integrated onto it04:32
bufflsoss no04:32
bufftell me how04:32
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NeedHelpi followed the guide for updating from dapper drake to edgy eft in kubuntu, and when i run startx i get this error - (module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1)) and (Failed to load module "ati" (Module requirement mismatch,0)) and (no drivers available)04:33
KiongkuNeedHelp: its a lot of hasssle to upgrade. just do a clean install04:33
buffor give a link pls04:33
Isossbuff: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list04:33
Zerb_RissNeedHelp, you may need to reinstall the ATI driver04:33
Kiongkudarn we need to put a warning sign in those upgrade pages04:33
NeedHelpwhich package is the generic ati driver in04:33
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Isossbuff: you may edit it with kate instead of nano04:34
buffyes but what should a type04:34
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buffyes but what should i type04:35
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Isosssomething like this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse04:35
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Isossare u using dapper?04:35
buffno04:35
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buff6.1004:35
Isossthen what?04:35
sistemasI don't know what type is it?04:36
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NeedHelpsweet04:36
Isosshmmm .. I am still on dapper. go to ubuntuforums and check the repositories forum for your problem04:36
sistemasIt's a pentium 4 motherboard04:36
IsossI guess you might just need to change from dapper to edgy, not sure though04:36
sistemasit's has  a Intel 845GL/GV chipset04:36
ubuntu_hi. what's the login+password for the kubuntu edgy live cd? i *think* the username is "ubuntu" but i can't find the password. i need to log out once to reload some settings, but i can't log in again.04:36
Kiongku!bzip04:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bzip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:37
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Kiongkuubuntu: never knew it had any login and password?04:37
Kiongku!bzip204:38
ubotubzip2: high-quality block-sorting file compressor - utilities. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.3-3 (edgy), package size 259 kB, installed size 484 kB04:38
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ubuntu_Kiongku: well, it logs in automatically when you boot, but i need to log out once and then back in.04:38
Zerb_Risssistemas, then all you can use is the default i810 driver with MesaGL04:38
Kiongkuleave all blank XD?04:38
sistemasbuff04:38
ubuntu_Kiongku: ubuntu (gnome) automatically logs back in after 10 seconds, but kubuntu doesn't04:38
sistemasWhat Can I do?04:38
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Kiongkuduh...04:39
ubuntu_Kiongku: leaving it blank didn't work, but thanks for the tip :)04:39
Kiongkuflaw in the system04:39
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jaba_vgcomo voy a kubuntu-es04:39
sistemasdime estas usando konversation04:39
jaba_vgsi04:40
sistemasa ya04:40
Kiongkuubuntu_: may be u'r only option is to redo it :(04:40
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sistemassi ps04:40
sistemaspor defecto04:40
sistemascarga ese canal04:40
sistemasingresa esto:04:40
Zerb_Riss!es | sistemas04:40
ubotusistemas: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:40
ubuntu_Kiongku: hm yeah perhaps. i was hoping for an easy solution. :) thanks04:40
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sistemasI know that ubotu04:41
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sistemasI have in Intermediate English in my college04:42
sistemasWell04:42
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sistemasI want to install openGL in my integrated video card04:43
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Kiongku... check what chipset it is.04:43
Zerb_Risssistemas, your integrated card's driver doesn't have native OpenGL support04:43
Zerb_Rissthe i810 driver04:43
sistemasit's Intel 845GL/GV04:43
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ecokillerwhile testing the DVD, I cant get kubuntu to connect to my home network04:44
yacoobis there any del.icio.us and filterset.g integration for konqueror?04:45
slow-motionre04:45
ecokillercant enable the wirless04:45
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sistemas<Zerb_Riss>04:46
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sistemasIt means that I can't use openGL in my card04:46
Zerb_Risssistemas, what are you trying to enable OpenGL for?04:46
sistemasI want to enable OpenGL for Mupen6404:48
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sistemasThe graphics are very bad04:48
shadowhywindi think i might have found my hibernate problem, when i try to hibernate i get Some modules failed to unload: nvidia, hibernate: Aborting suspend due to errors in ModulesUnloadBlacklist (use --force to override).04:48
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sistemaswith my native graphics libraries04:48
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Zerb_Risssistemas, yah it's likely because it's using MesaGL04:49
Zerb_Riss!i81004:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:49
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mulderBack again. Hello all. I need help with a few things, and I have been trying hard, but with no success04:49
sistemasHow change MesaGL to OpenGL?04:49
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mulderanybody who could kindly help me please?04:50
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sistemasAny ideas?04:52
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mulderwow everybody must be at the beach! :-)04:54
Isosshey guys .. yesterday I checked the new mandrake distro, and I was amazed by the 3d desktop it has with it's kde ... isn't there a similar one for kubuntu?04:54
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xsachalsoss you mean beryl?04:55
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Isossmaybe!04:56
Sharketorhello04:56
xsachacube and wobbly windows?04:56
TheGateKeeper!upgrade > TheGateKeeper04:56
MetaMorfoziS!beryl04:56
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.04:56
MetaMorfoziSragh04:56
mulderI need some help please people!04:56
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Sharketoris there in kubuntu something like "show desktop" in windows?04:57
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xsachactrl+alt+D04:57
IsossI installed 3ddesktop from ubuntu repos, but dunno how to get it to work! but anyway, I've been told that it's not as cool as the one in mandrake04:57
xsachalsoss: im assuming you mean beryl, join #beryl -- anything in mandrake is possible in any distro04:58
Sharketorxsascha: tnx04:58
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xsachai dont think 3ddesktop is what you want :S04:58
Sharketorand a tats'04:58
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mulderfirst, I need to remove the sidebar on the left, don't know how it got there!04:58
sistemas_well guys04:58
sistemas_I wait a solution04:58
sistemas_I guess that it exits04:59
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sistemas_I have to go04:59
Sharketorand a key to do it?04:59
cps1966you can put icon in task bar also for desktop04:59
|vince|hello05:00
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some0ne'morning05:00
Isossok xsacha, I'll check it ... anyway, I need to konw how 3ddesktop works!05:00
mulder but I have this grey bar on the left of my screen with a few icons...I want to remove it. How can I do that?05:00
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cps1966right click bottom panel and add applet show desktop05:01
IsossI can't find it in my menu05:01
|vince|its me from myspace willy05:01
mulderoh yes done :-)! Thank you cps05:01
muldernow...more serious stuff :-)05:01
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xsacha3ddesktop says it requires a window manager compatible with the GNOME pager standard -- unsure05:02
mulderI have an audigy 2 zs card, but it isn't recognized. as well as my logitech camera and canon printer.05:02
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bionichello..I just installed kubuntu, but after reboot grubs says, "Grub Loading stage 1.5. Grub loading please wait error 17". I have bootet with a live cd now and im looking at the menu.lst.. Got no idea what may be wrong. Can anyone please help?05:02
mulderthe first one is important. Somebody knows how I can have that card recognized?05:02
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cps1966!sound05:03
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin05:03
mulderwell my intel hda onboard card is working...but I want the audigy to work instead.05:03
cps1966look above05:04
Isoss #bery1 isn't a channel!05:04
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xsachalsoss: beryl with an "L"05:04
cps1966#ubuntu-glx05:04
xsachawhen you see a channel name you can click it to avoid typos05:04
Sharketorhow can i do automatic login'05:04
Sharketor?05:05
Ahmuckwhy  ??05:05
[GuS] Hi prople! anyone knows how to fix this bug? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kcontrol-autostart/+bug/6760905:05
ecokillerdoes anyone know how to get the wep password key thats already saved on computer?05:05
xsachaSharketor: using konversation?05:05
Sharketorno, login in kubuntu05:05
xsachaSharketor: or you mean KDE login?05:05
Sharketorjust that05:05
Isossoops05:05
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Sharketorthe second one05:05
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siddharthi am using ubuntu 6.06, kernel version 2.6.15. for a project, i need to install kernel 2.4.22. Is it possible to compile and install 2.4.22 and have both kernels coexist peacefully?05:05
xsachaSharketor: go to System Settings->Advanced->Login Manager05:05
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Sharketorok thanks05:06
xsachaSharketor: in "Convenience" tab there will be auto-login05:06
Sharketorit's a great chan05:06
siddharthas in: can i do the development on 2.6.15 (use it to hack the 2.4.22 kernel) and then compile it and install it and boot into it?05:07
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SharketorI'm using gaim, but sometimes it disconects. Why?05:07
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xsachano idea :P i use kopete05:08
Sharketorkopete too05:08
siddharthhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28795105:08
siddharthplease help!05:08
Sharketorit doesn't send message05:08
Sharketorit gives me error05:08
Zerb_Riss!aiglx05:08
ubotuAIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.05:08
flo_how can i make akregator see the flash plugin that i have already installed? i'm on a gnome desktop05:09
siddharth#servers05:09
xsachanever happened here, don't know what it could be Sharketor05:09
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nickv111Hi. For some reason, amaroK on Ubuntu 6.10 will not play my mp3 files. I can play Ogg, but not mp3. It simply skips over all of the MP3s05:09
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nickv111How do I get it to play mp3?05:09
xsacha!mp305:09
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:09
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nickv111Thanks.05:10
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Sharketorok05:12
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kay_anyone knows a good and easy music make program?05:13
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mulderstrange I have the sound but no image in kaffeine when I play AVI files!05:13
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nickv111Okay. I am using the xine lib for amaroK, and I still cannot play mp3s even though I installed a bunch of the packages noted on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats05:16
xunixhelp.. how to chmod my ntfs partition in my kubuntu05:16
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xunixit's say read only file system05:17
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knapperdudes05:17
knapperhow do I add something to startup on kde?05:17
xsachaxunix: ntfs write isn't so hot right now, but if you want write: kdesu konqueror /media  then right click on the drive and properties->permissions change user from root to your login name05:18
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mulderDear me I feel like I am trying to sell carpets on a persian market! avi files don't play in kaffeine, is there any better player for kubuntu?05:19
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xunixxsacha: ok,05:19
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exhaleif i wanted to develop with QT, what do i need to download?05:20
xsachaexhale: the QT headers, probably KDE headers, KDevelop05:20
Homeryou don't need kdevelop!05:20
xsachahaha ok ;)05:20
exhale:/05:21
exhalei have never programmed before, i just wanted to try it out05:21
Homeroh05:21
xsachawhen you compile it'll tell you if you're missing something05:21
Homeruse kdevelop05:21
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Homerand buy a book05:21
Homerlol05:21
b0ysc0utcan i use Gnash to play flash movies?kuz i got a AMD64 and macromedia dosent support 64 bit's05:21
exhalei cant apt-get it :(05:21
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Homerapt-get install kdevelop05:21
exhaleis kdevelop replaced with kdesdk-scripts?05:22
Homeran do seach for "qt" in adept05:22
Homerdownload like everything05:22
exhaleit says kdevelop is replaced05:22
xsachadont need transitional ones or QT4 ones (unless you're going to be making for QT4)05:22
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LynoureSounds like a lot of overkill if he has never programmed anything before05:23
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exhale...05:23
ecokilleranyone know how to retireve a wep key password on a computer?05:23
xsachaexhale: http://women.kde.org/articles/tutorials/kdevelop3/ and join some programming channel05:23
mulderOk bye anyway.05:23
yacoobkdevelop is only for C/C++?05:24
Homerno05:24
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xsachaignote the "women"05:24
xsachaignore*05:24
yacoobHomer, good, I was about to add 'poor exhale' if he was to tackle C :>05:24
xsachawell he said he wanted to do something QT related?05:25
exhalei cant seem to get kdevelop from the repos, says its aged and perhaps replaced with kdesdk-scripts05:25
xsachahe could of course just mess around with QTDesigner and barely do any code -- just follow that tutorial for eg. :)05:25
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yacoobxsacha, but there are qt bindings for other languages? or not?05:26
Homeryes many05:26
xsachafor java, ...05:26
Homerpython05:26
Homerruby05:26
xsachatelepathy05:27
yacoobthe last one is good.05:27
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yacoobLemme try visualising an evil qt dialog on xsacha screen, hrmph....05:27
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juaaaaarchangel_ you have got msn05:31
keinswas05:31
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juaaaakeins you have got msn05:31
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juaaaaleandrosanchez_607@hotmail.com05:32
juaaaacopy05:32
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juaaaaand paste05:32
keinswo bin ich05:32
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stamenhi05:32
juaaaastamen hi05:32
stamenI want to ask,05:32
juaaaabay copy my msn05:33
stamenis Edgy a stable version of the new05:33
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stamenkubuntu05:33
stamenis it stabel as dapper05:33
stamenis it stable05:34
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exhaleyes otherwise they wouldn't have released it as a final version05:34
xsachayes, it was released final 2 days ago05:34
stamenok05:35
stamenwhich repositories I must use to download it05:35
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stamenwithout downloading the CD05:35
stamenor I have to download it05:35
xunixxsacha: it's says => X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16805:35
sorush20hi i keep getting to the message that can't access job control tty turned off what do I do?05:35
exhale!upgrade05:36
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)05:36
xsacha!ntfs | xunix05:36
xunixxsacha: i still can't chmod my ntfs05:36
ubotuxunix: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:36
stamen10x05:36
xsachahmm thats to view, just wait.. ill find a page05:36
xunixubotu: yup05:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:36
xunixubotu: i try to chmod my ntfs partition05:36
exhalelol...05:37
exhalexunix: its a bot05:37
xunixoOo05:37
xsachahere xunix: http://bisqwit.iki.fi/story/howto/ntfs/05:37
xunixhahaha05:37
xunixok05:37
xsachawrite to ntfs means you cannot change filesize05:37
darkfinalDoes anyone here know about the "Synth devices: Not enabled in config" issue?05:38
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stamen!upgrade05:39
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)05:39
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xunixxsacha: so i can't edit my file in my ntfs ?05:40
xsachayou can, but the filesize cannot change05:41
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stamenwhat I have to do, if I want to upgrade my dapper from the new Edgy CD05:41
xunixis this same with FAT32 ?05:41
jack_I've started Adept and wanted to check my repositories a find a lot of grey text on that page.  Are those all delete-able?05:41
stamendid somebody do this05:42
jack_a=and05:42
xsachano not same with FAT3205:42
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xunixxsacha: ok.. thx05:42
xsachayou can read and write to FAT32 from almost every operating system that exists05:43
[Deathmaster] stamen:  i think u need to download the allternate install cd05:43
[Deathmaster] i downloaded the install one05:43
stamenok05:43
[Deathmaster] i didn' work05:43
xunixso its better change my ntfs to fat32 ?05:43
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stamen'Deathma05:43
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stamenand what to do after downloading it05:44
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xsachaxunix: you can turn ntfs to fat32? ok05:44
stamendoes it know whta to upgrade05:44
stamenthis alternate Cd05:44
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xsachaxunix: i know you can turn fat32 to ntfs but didnt know reverse05:44
omicronhi there.. i am not able to activate us alt-intl keyboard layout on kubuntu edgy using kcontrol. does anybody know how to get that working?05:45
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xunixyap05:45
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nutshell42could someone point me to the paragraph in the (k)ubuntu mission statement that reads "at no point shall this distribution betray its proud history by shipping with a working partitioner"?05:48
nutshell42dapper hung when trying to actually mount the partitions05:49
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nutshell42eft tells me "no root file system" for reasons I don't understand05:50
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xsachahehe, the partitioner worked for me but i used fdisk anyway so i could use reiser, bootloader didnt work though but i wanted lilo anyway05:51
nutshell42I'm not sure how it's implemented so I may have been unfair to the partitioner05:52
nutshell42the problem is not actually partitioning the disk05:52
nutshell42but specifying the mount points05:52
SHRIKEElol05:53
SHRIKEEbusted05:53
nutshell42or more precisely, choosing the root partition and giving it the mount point "/" doesn't seem to satisfy the installer05:53
xsachanutshell42: would that be an extended partition? tried a primary?05:53
nutshell42it complains "no root file system"05:53
nutshell42xsacha: it's an extended, but:05:53
SHRIKEEi believe you need atleast a / and a /boot05:53
nutshell42a) I have a primary /boot partition05:53
nutshell42and05:53
xsachadont need a /boot05:54
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nutshell42b) if that's really its problem (i.e. it doesn't like extended partitions and doesn't accept the /boot) then that would be one useless error msg05:54
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xsachahehe, i think it just doesn't like extended partition as root05:55
nutshell42oh and the /boot partition is active05:55
nutshell42so it can't even be that05:55
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SHRIKEEis /boot a primary partition>05:55
SHRIKEE?05:55
xsachayes05:55
nutshell42yes05:55
SHRIKEEk05:55
exhaledoes it matter though? linux doesnt care05:55
nutshell42if it doesn't like extendeds as root at all05:55
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exhalek05:55
SHRIKEEi ' ve read somewhere that /boot needs to be a primary partition05:55
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exhalewell thats why all my partitions are primary :P05:56
xsachabut you can only have 4 primary partitions :S05:56
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exhaletrue05:56
exhalei dont have more than 3 though05:56
nutshell42is there an install guide somewhere?05:56
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nutshell42the doc on kubuntu don't seem to contain one05:56
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SHRIKEEwhats wrong with default partitioning05:57
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jerp15 minutes later: okie doke, I'll take the lack of response to my question to mean that you don't think I took a shower this morning and not that I had a stupid question.05:57
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blackflaghello all :)05:57
nutshell42SHRIKEE: that I'd have to delete 160gigs worth of perfectly fine partitions just to amuse kubuntu?05:57
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nutshell42=P05:57
SHRIKEEhmm thats sily05:57
SHRIKEEsilly05:57
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xsachai just scrolled up an hour and didnt see your message jerp :S05:57
cps1966had to resort to debian java packages to get it to work05:58
xsachaoh you're jack_05:58
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jerpyeah :)05:58
blackflagI just upgrade from dapper to edgy and I want to know where I can find the new hardware database manager ?05:58
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xsachadont get your question05:58
jerpxsacha: I'm just yanking your chain, or anyone elses along with ya05:58
SHRIKEEisnt edgy an older version?05:58
jerpnevermind05:58
xsachaedgy was released 2 days ago05:59
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SHRIKEEah i see, nm05:59
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jerpxsacha: I'm just a pathetic newb05:59
TrollinatorSo what?05:59
Trollinatoryou're a newb, you're still expected to think for yourself...05:59
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jerpa helplessly pathetic newb06:00
jerpTrollinator: what's a help channel for?06:00
jerpto swap recipes?06:01
TrollinatorTo give hints so that one can find the solution by himself... not more and not less06:01
SHRIKEEstop calling yourself pathetic, idiot06:01
SHRIKEEyoure not06:01
Kiongkuu should note that all helpes here are volunteers.. no one is obliged to help out to the end thought it may sounds rude06:01
jerp:)06:01
Kiongkuhelpes/helpers06:01
xunixok guys.. enough for this day.. sooo tired :D06:02
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xunixbubyee06:02
joheyAnyone using Vice C64 emulator? apt-cache show vice tells " This package does not contain the various ROM images needed to actually use the emulators but includes a script which will attempt to download them from a number of well-known locations." Ok, but where is this script located and how do I run it?06:02
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some0ne.06:04
darkfinalI've installed kubuntu-desktop in my Ubuntu installation since I've got bored of Gnome... and everything works perfect with KDE now, but I have NO sound...06:04
jerpAfter having read the greyed out text and taken time to consider it's meaning I have reconsidered and retract my inquire.  Thanks it's been a pleasure doing business with everyone. :)06:04
SHRIKEE..06:04
darkfinalALSA recognises both my sound cards (an AudigyLS and an integrated AC97) but there's no synth...06:04
some0nedarkfinal, Run kmix.06:04
darkfinalI have it running... but the synth list is empty.06:05
some0neHm06:05
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some0neThat may have something to do with arts.06:05
some0neDon't know.06:05
some0neWhat kind of sound hardware you got there?06:06
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darkfinalCopy/paste from KInfoCenter:06:06
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darkfinalAudio devices: 0:NVidia CK804 (DUPLEX)  1: USB Audio  2: CA0106 (DUPLEX)06:07
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darkfinalSynth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG (???)06:07
RawSewageI found a nice feature on Konversation today:  F6  (URL Catcher)06:07
larson9999johey: i use vice but i don't use that feature.  i use roms i downloaded06:07
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joheylarson9999: Ok.06:07
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joheylarson9999: Where do you put the roms then?06:08
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larson9999johey: you can put them anywhere you want.  there is a dialogue that asks you what file you want to attach to which device06:09
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joheylarson9999: Hmm. As I start x64, it just quits with a message "C64MEM: Error - Couldn't load kernal ROM `kernal'. Machine initialization failed."06:11
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larson9999johey: yeah, i got that too.  hmmm, i haven't used vice since i upgraded to edgy.06:12
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larson9999johey: have to fix that.  i use vice a lot06:12
joheylarson9999: Ok. I'll google for it for a while then.06:12
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SHRIKEEis it any use to upgrade to edgy, from dapper?06:14
SHRIKEEor are there no big changes06:14
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ubuntu_Hello, I'm switching from Ubuntu Dapper to Kubuntu edgy, but I'm having a problem with the installation. Right now I'm in the prepare mount points screen, the root directory is set but when I hit continue I get this: No root file sistem.06:16
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nutshell42SHRIKEE: well, it fixed old problems and replaced them with a completely new set of things that desperatly need to be fixed =P06:17
SHRIKEEhmm06:17
SHRIKEEsounds bad06:17
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nutshell42btw. installation seems to be working no, deleting and recreating the partition seems to have helped06:17
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nutshell42ubuntu_: I had the same problem06:17
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SHRIKEEthats good nutshell4206:17
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nutshell42you have to delete the old root partition06:17
nutshell42and recreate it06:18
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Zerb_Risshow do I change the allowed screen resolutions??06:18
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SHRIKEEsounds like a newer version of /boot needs to be made...06:18
Zerb_Rissthe stupid thing is only letting me use 1024x76806:18
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ubuntu_nutshell42: Ok thanks I'll do that.06:18
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nutshell42Zerb_Riss: in the system settings?06:18
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nutshell42if it doesn't allow you higher resolutions there06:18
ubuntu_nutshell42: do you know why is that happening?06:18
nutshell42ubuntu_: because it's fubar =)06:19
SHRIKEEubuntu_: version change probably06:19
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SHRIKEEnutshell42: what kinda trouble you run in while using edgy? instead of dapper06:19
joe_anyone know how to install flash nine.  I just started using kebuntu yesterday and all the tutorials aren't working for me06:19
nutshell42Zerb_Riss: most likely the autodetection didn't work all that well06:19
SHRIKEEas of yet im not running into bugs or anything, im using dapper06:20
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SHRIKEEjoe, linux does not have flash nine afaik06:20
nutshell42SHRIKEE: that was just a joke; I've never seen a newer version of an OS that didn't just replace the old bugs with new ones06:20
nutshell42if it's a great update it reduces the number and severity06:20
nutshell42but nevertheless =)06:20
SHRIKEEright, nutshell42 i know that, but still. is it worth upgrading?06:21
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Zerb_Rissnutshell42, I installed the nvidia driver and in KDE's syste settings it says I'm still using the nv driver instead of the nvidia driver06:21
joe_there is a new flash 9 beta test.  a lot of people have installed it correctly and it works06:21
SHRIKEEbeta...06:21
SHRIKEEah06:21
SHRIKEEfinally flash 9 :D06:21
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nutshell42SHRIKEE: I just tried the live-cd for half an hour and am now installing it; I really don't know06:21
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BlackenSo...is it me, or is dist-upgrading STILL a bad idea?06:21
SHRIKEEhmm k06:22
St_MPA3bwhy kde is better than gnome? :)06:22
nutshell42Zerb_Riss: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf - look for "nv" and replace it with "nvidia"06:22
TehUniBlacken: broke a few things for me.06:22
TehUniseems like a fresh install is the best idea, imo06:22
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Zerb_RissBlacken, you just have to follow the instructions06:22
ubuntu_Does easyubuntu works for kde?06:22
Zerb_Riss!upgrade | Blacken06:22
ubotuBlacken: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)06:22
nutshell42Zerb_Riss: although if you can't set a higher resolution it's more likely that your monitor wasn't configured properly by the autodetection06:22
Zerb_Rissa bunch of packages were changed names06:22
St_MPA3b!kde06:22
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE06:22
TehUnialot of python stuff is screwed up for me now...06:23
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Zerb_RissTehUni, screwed up, or just being kept back?06:23
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BlackenZerb_Riss: Sigh. I love that attitude. I installed before they wrote that. I went through the packages and looked at the stuff. It's not "not following instructions" that causes an Edgy dist-upgrade to die in a fire.06:23
joe_i've got the libflashplayer.so but have trouble putting it in firefox plugins06:23
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TehUniZerb_Riss: kept back.06:23
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Zerb_RissTehUni, follow the final instruction06:23
Zerb_Riss!upgrade TehUni06:24
Zerb_Riss!upgrade |ehUni06:24
ubotuehUni: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)06:24
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Zerb_Riss!upgrade | TehUni06:24
ubotuTehUni: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)06:24
Zerb_Risssheesh lol06:24
lontra!mirrors06:24
ubotuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive06:24
SHRIKEEthat tutorial sounds easy enough06:24
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nutshell42joe_: what problems?06:24
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TehUnijoe_: cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/06:24
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St_MPA3bplz say where kde is better than gnome...06:24
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St_MPA3bplz say where kde is better than gnome...06:24
Zerb_RissBlacken, I realize that, but when they released the RC for Kubuntu they also said that there would be additional steps06:24
BlackenSHRIKEE: It's very easy. The problem is that it doesn't always work.06:24
roothi, i have very interesting problem, when i open kubuntu, in login screen , it doesnt accept my password, when i open console login, it accepts my password. how can i solve this ? my username is alex password is 12306:24
SHRIKEEhmm06:24
SHRIKEEnot work as in06:24
Zerb_Rissthe Kubuntu team is working on getting update-manager working with Kubuntu, but until then it's going to be a bit more painful06:25
SHRIKEEbroken programs? or broken os06:25
BlackenZerb_Riss: I installed it the day of Edgy "release." Oddly enough, Edgy's "release" is far, far more screwy than the Knots were.06:25
ruisuyeah, um, does anybody know why in fstab, they used UUIS' instead of /dev/hda's?06:25
BlackenSHRIKEE: In the case of my first install, the latter. My second, the former.06:25
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SHRIKEE...06:25
Zerb_RissBlacken, I had no problems when I followed the instructions in the RC email exactly06:25
TehUnimmm06:25
TehUniwill try that now, thanks alot.06:25
BlackenZerb_Riss: That's great for you. I've heard an earful of broken boxes.06:25
SHRIKEEstrange that it differs per user ;)06:25
Zerb_RissBlacken, I have had some break, but they were all repaired through apt06:26
Blackenruisu: I have no idea whatsoever. It makeths no sense.06:26
rootpeople, how can i add new user to kubuntu **?06:26
Blackenroot:  adduser06:26
joe_the package for flash 9 is flash-player-plugin-9.0.21.5506:26
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ruisuBlaken:yes, and i think that broke my "other os" mount point...06:26
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serenityhi06:26
ruisuhi06:27
SHRIKEEsounds to me the upgrade is unstable06:27
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SHRIKEE*doesnt do it yet*06:27
serenityis here someone with the RL name "Niels"?06:27
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BlackenSHRIKEE: In my experience, it's considerably more unstable than the *beta* CDs.06:27
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BlackenWell, no.06:27
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BlackenEdgy CDs seem to be working flawlessly.06:27
Zerb_RissSHRIKEE, if you follow those upgrade instructions you won't have any problems06:27
SHRIKEEhmm06:27
rootBlacken: it says only one or two names are allowed06:27
joe_how do I paste a file libflashplayer.so from my desktop to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins06:27
Zerb_Riss}06:27
BlackenZerb_Riss: Don't lie to the people. "You PROBABLY" won't have any problems."06:28
ruisuis it safe to write back with the hda's?06:28
BlackenMaybe even "You MIGHT" not have any problems.06:28
Blackenruisu: Unknown, I wouldn't try it.06:28
SHRIKEEblacken, i guess it depends on what programs you use if it works or not06:28
SHRIKEEim using a fairly default install and nothing custom compiled06:28
ruisuhmm, ok, thanks, ill mount manually06:28
ruisugbye06:28
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joheylarson9999: They shall be in /usr/lib/vice and they can be found at funet. However, in that package one file name is misspelled (kernel instead of kernal) and one is missing (C64/chargen).06:28
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Zerb_RissBlacken, just because you had problems by not following the instructions doesn't mean other people will by following them06:28
roothi, i have very interesting problem, when i open kubuntu, in login screen , it doesnt accept my password, when i open console login, it accepts my password. how can i solve this ? my username is alex password is 12306:29
SHRIKEElol Zerb_Riss06:29
Zerb_RissI've had no problems when following those instructions06:29
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joheylarson9999: Have you any idea where to find that chargen file?06:29
BlackenZerb_Riss: I was one of the people who was around when the instructions were BEING WRITTEN. I was one of the first people to try them on my second dist-upgrade. They DO NOT WORK for everyone.06:29
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SHRIKEEhow long does the update take, Zerb_Riss?06:29
BlackenCan I make this any more crystal bloody clear?06:29
Zerb_RissBlacken, no because it's untrue.06:30
thello everybody06:30
Zerb_Risssome people are having prob06:30
SHRIKEEoh stop fighting you 206:30
Zerb_Risslems*06:30
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TehUnimmm... it's safe to upgrade all these held back packages?06:30
SHRIKEEwhat are held back packages?06:30
TehUnipython, mainly06:30
BlackenZerb_Riss: I will direct you to ubuntuforums where...uh...most of a freaking bajillion people are having trouble.06:30
Zerb_Riss99% of them have unofficial repositories or didn't follow the instructions that the Kubuntu team released with the RC06:30
ivanbuenas, tengo un problema con el sonido despues de actualizar a dapper06:31
Zerb_RissTehUni, yes, it's recommended06:31
TehUniok, cool06:31
TehUnithanks06:31
BlackenThey have unofficial repositories because there's no way AROUND having unofficial repositories.06:31
SHRIKEEwhy are they held back?06:31
feldegastTehUni: i found that the cdromupgrade upgraded python06:31
tcan anyone help me with a problem after upgrading > edgy06:31
SHRIKEEgrr06:31
Zerb_RissBlacken, no, they have unoffical repositories because the Ubuntu team has legal restrictions on what they can include in theirs06:31
SHRIKEEZerb_Riss: how long does a web-upgrade take?06:31
ivani lost my sound after updating from breezy to dapper06:32
BlackenZerb_Riss: Exactly. There's no sane way around having unofficial repos.06:32
t>ivan no creo que hay tanta gente hablando espanol06:32
Zerb_RissBlacken, and they want that software. It's always recommended to disable any repositories that are not official when you dist-upgrade06:32
Zerb_RissSHRIKEE, depends on your net connection. Took me about 20 minutes06:32
BlackenAnd from a cursory look at Ubuntuforums, almost 50% of people had serious or system-breaking problems, and another 35% had "a few problems".06:32
SHRIKEEi manage fine withouu iunoficial reps06:32
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SHRIKEEk , Zerb_Riss.. im gonna try and upgrade ;)06:33
SHRIKEEbbiab06:33
BlackenHmm. I'm going to go out on a limb and say there are problems, seeing as how the numbers for Breezy->Dapper were never this bad.06:33
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Zerb_RissI disagree06:33
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Zerb_Risspeople are having more trouble because they aren't looking for or following the directions06:33
ivani have a ac97 sound card06:33
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feldegastivan: that doesn't mean much.....what drivers does it use?06:34
BlackenThat's nice. Maybe it should be a more intelligent installer, then. As it is, the numbers of people who had broken systems (according to a Breezy->Dapper poll) was 4%. 4% to 45%. I wonder...06:34
joheylarson9999: I downloaded WinVICE and found the rom in there. Now it works.06:35
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ivansnd-ac97-codec i think06:35
feldegastthe cdromupgrade uses the core repositories, does the upgrade and then resets them06:35
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larson9999johey: i think it might be a plf thing.06:36
joheylarson9999: plf?06:36
larson9999johey: thanks for the info06:36
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ivani've tried with modconf to stop it but it tells my that it is in use06:36
larson9999penquin liberation front06:36
Zerb_RissBlacken, maybe so, but update-manager isn't compatible with Kubuntu still. People who used update-manager in Gnome shouldn't have had problems06:36
joheylarson9999: Lol, yes. :)06:36
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feldegastivan: try disabling it in the bios?06:37
BlackenZerb_Riss: And GNOME sucks. Next question! Seriously though--there is no excuse for having official distros that can't do something as simple as upgrading without exploding.06:37
larson9999johey: it's down and i think i used to get vice from there.  maybe it included the rom06:37
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larson9999johey: anyway.  thanks for the info06:38
ivanhow can i know it?06:38
larson9999on 2nd thought things don't seem exactly right.  i think i'll do a fresh install of edgy after all06:38
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ivanwith breezy i had no problems06:39
Blackenlarson9999: That's the smartest way to do it (most unfortunately).06:39
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joheylarson9999: I don't know about that... I'm using dapper and have not yet updated my system. Still I had those vice problems.06:39
larson9999Blacken: well the upgrade did work and i don't see anything that i can prove isn't right but it just doesn't 'feel right'06:39
feldegastivan: i don't use onboard sound, i found it caused too much conflict with other things, not to mention took resources away from the cpu06:39
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feldegasttry disabling the ac97 in the bios, then re-enabling it?06:40
joheylarson9999: Do you know if there is some alternative GUI for Vice? This lesstif thingy is, imho, totally unusable.06:40
larson9999johey: where did you get vice from?06:40
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feldegastif it is an nforce board u might need newer nforce drivers06:41
joheylarson9999: multiverse06:41
ivanok, i'll try06:41
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St_MPA3bplz say where kde is better than gnome...06:41
ivanthankyou06:41
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joe_I've always used windowsxp and have spent 3 days trying to simple tasks like installing flash so I can use metacafe.com would I be better off going to mepis or linspire?06:41
larson9999johey: then it might be a plf thing.  i always got it from plf.06:41
joheylarson9999: Ah, so plf is a repository?06:41
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larson9999johey yeah.  has non free stuff06:42
larson9999johey: and things that are in the 'grey area'06:42
thi, can so hlp me with a problem after upgrading06:42
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TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: down to personal preference, if you are used to windows then you will probable find kde easier to get on with06:42
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tscrolling works terribly06:42
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joheylarson9999: I see.06:42
joheylarson9999: Do you know if there is some alternative GUI for Vice? This lesstif thingy is, imho, totally unusable.06:43
DrZooti dont know why people always pidgeon hole kde as the "windows clone"06:43
larson9999johey: so it wouldn't have an issue including the rom whereas ubuntu might06:43
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larson9999johey: i don't know.  the default worked for me.06:43
joheylarson9999: Ok.06:43
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joe_gatekeeper isnt kubuntu kde06:43
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larson9999DrZoot: because it looks like windows?06:44
thi, can so hlp me with a problem after upgrading - scrolling hangs terribly06:44
TheGateKeeperjoe_: kubuntu uses KDE as the default desktop06:44
DrZootlarson9999: as far as im aware just about every gui ever made could be compared to windows, theres only so many ways you can solve the problem06:44
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larson9999DrZoot: sure.  but when just about everyone has used windows, that's what gets picked.06:45
feldegastt which graphics drivers?06:45
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bobbyyuHi, I'm having trouble setting up a network with my Windows computer. I am trying to share my Windows mounts and make it writable06:46
thmmm, how do i find out?06:46
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larson9999DrZoot: when you put the task menu at the bottom, have a sys tray on the right, have a quick launch on the left, and have a start button on the bottom left, you're going to be considered a windows clone06:46
some0neHow do you find out what?06:46
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feldegastt what video card do you have?06:46
larson9999DrZoot: notice gnome has most of those at the top by default and isn't as often called a windows clone.06:47
TheGateKeeperbobbyyu: if you create a share on a windows machine you can use konqueror to navigate to it06:47
joe_dr Zoot, I want to linux not windows, but the learning curve is taking too long, I've beenreading tutorials and forums and I can follow directions, but still cant accomplish in 3 days what it took my 10 seconds in windows to do.06:47
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bobbyyuI know that. But what about the other way around06:47
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some0nejoe_, What are you trying to do?06:47
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bobbyyuI want to create a share on the Linux machine so the Windows machine can see it06:47
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joe_someone, i was trying to install flash 9 beta plugin in firefox06:48
TheGateKeeperbobbyyu: in that case you need samba06:48
some0nebobbyyu, Use samba.06:48
bobbyyuSo that the Windows mount on my LInux box can be shared to the Windows Machine06:48
ts3 savage06:48
TheGateKeeper!samba > bobbyyu06:48
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joheylarson9999: I remove vice and compile it myself.06:48
tits a t20 thinkpad06:48
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TheGateKeeperbobbyyu: install samba then go to system settings --> share & set the share up06:49
larson9999johey: oh, that might do it as well.06:49
bobbyyuI did all the basic steps06:49
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DrZootjoe_: heh, when i first started using linux i decided to drop myself in at the deep end and see if i could swim, my first ever distro was debian potato (2.x ??) with the craptastic text installer. Going from absolutely no linux experience it took 4 days and about 40 formats/installs before i got it right06:49
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bobbyyuBut the trouble is, Samba doesn't allow my Windows machine to see what's in the linux box06:49
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TheGateKeeperbobbyyu: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server06:49
tok ill try sth, thanks so far felde seeya06:50
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joe_dr zoot, is that supposed to encourge me, I'm pretty savvy on figuring stuff out, I just don't have the patience to go through all that.06:50
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DrZootjoe_: im not sure I was trying to encourage, linux is powerful and flexible but its nothing like windows, imho theres a totally different mindset involved06:52
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TheGateKeeper!flash906:52
ubotuFlash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html06:52
TheGateKeeperjoe_: ^^^^^06:52
lontraanyone know how i can make kwallet remember my WEP for knetworkmanager06:52
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DrZootjoe_: its well worth the effort though06:53
TheGateKeeperjoe_: if you want a distro with loads of stuff pre-installed try kanotix06:53
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=== feldegast just uses automatix2 to install most of the extra stuff
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DrZooti may be masochistic but my favourite distro is gentoo, I just cbf arguing with it to make all the hardware on my laptop work so I went with kubuntu for something different06:55
TheGateKeeperfeldegast: likes living dangerously lol06:55
feldegastdefinatly :D06:55
joe_kanotix, maybe. gotta go thanks06:55
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LjL!automatix | feldegast06:55
ubotufeldegast: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.06:55
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feldegastubotu: noted, it worked for me but i only installed a small number of components06:56
larson9999anyone here running edgy and have wine .23 or .24 running ok?06:56
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some0nelarson9999, I'm using wine to run Fireworks 8.06:56
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some0nelarson9999, I don't know what version. But I'm running it. & I'm using the AMD64 arch.06:57
TheGateKeeperDrZoot: your the 2nd gentoo person I seen in here today, using (k)ubuntu what's going on lol06:57
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some0neWhich is supposed to be extra hard.06:57
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some0neTheGateKeeper, I'm a Gentoo user as well.06:57
larson9999some0ne: which version?  the on in the ubuntu repository or did you get it from the winehq repos?06:57
DrZootTheGateKeeper: I love gentoo but its just to difficult on a laptop06:58
TheGateKeeperomg that's 306:58
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some0nelarson9999, I did some hackish things which you won't have to do if you're using a 32 bit system. The .deb package was from winehq.06:58
feldegastbut went with kubuntu06:58
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TheGateKeeperDrZoot: what about kororaa or sabayon?06:59
some0neDrZoot, I'm using it on a laptop right now. =)06:59
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DrZootTheGateKeeper: Setting up hardware in linux can be painful enough but when your travelling around trying to get your stuff to work with everyone elses its a nighmare (at least it was in my experience)06:59
TheGateKeepersome0ne: dapper or edgy?06:59
some0neEdgy.07:00
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some0neI'm using Gentoo on the laptop, not Kubuntu.07:00
DrZootTheGateKeeper: I havent looked at kororaa in a long time, last i looked it was only a livecd dist, havent heard of sabayon07:00
some0neI'm using Kubuntu on the desktop.07:00
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ubuntu__Hi07:00
xsachawell kororaa is a livecd, but it has install option07:00
DrZootyeah, its been ages since ive even looked at it07:01
TheGateKeeperDrZoot: I am downloading via torrent to take a look07:01
zorglu_xsacha: it has xgl already configured isnt it ?07:01
xsachayes07:01
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DrZootim fairly happy with kubuntu atm, my linux roots were in debian so im fairly familiar with the setup07:01
xsachait was one of first distros to package xgl07:02
zorglu_maybe i should retry it then. i would like to see what is xgl07:02
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ubuntu__so kubuntu or ubuntu_07:02
zorglu_i tried it once before but it didnt want to boot07:02
mick-wyoyo07:02
DrZootim actually happy to use the xserver ati driver and have working suspend, xgl makes suspend difficult07:02
xsachazorglu_: then it probably wont boot now either :)07:02
DrZootactually i think its fglrx that is the problem07:02
xsachai use aiglx/open source drivers07:03
zorglu_xsacha: well maybe they fixed the issue which caused the boot issue. in theory my laptop graphic card is supported by xgl07:03
feldegastzorglu_: Kororaa 0.2 has xgl on the cd, 0.3 has the prorietry ati/nvidia drivers removed so u need to install it before xgl will work on those cards07:03
DrZooto rly? works well?07:03
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TheGateKeeperDrZoot: my problem with edgy is I don't exactly trust what will happen if I try to upgrade, & firefox 2 has nobled all the extensions07:03
zorglu_feldegast: i got a intel chip set 91507:03
feldegastzorglu_: then u r set07:04
frankkmMy problem with edgy is that adept doesn't work correct07:04
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zorglu_my problem with edgy is the deceiving announcement :)07:04
feldegastif you don't have nvidia/ati for graphics07:04
xsachayeah people complained about propietry drivers being packed with it07:04
DrZootTheGateKeeper: Yeah, I just upgraded Kubuntu to edgy and although the upgrade seemed to work there was alot of broken stuff07:05
DrZootTheGateKeeper: in the end i just nuked the system and did a clean install07:05
some0neProprietary drivers are bad.07:05
feldegastxsacha: which is strange cos lots of distro's did that07:05
TheGateKeeperfrankkm: use synaptic or possible kpackage, adept is awfull anyway07:05
some0neI'm involved in a business that will be selling Kubuntu / Ubuntu machines with Beryl installed as the default WM and we proudly have a no blob policy. =)07:05
zorglu_some0ne: blob = ?07:06
larson9999the only thing i can see that doesn't work for me in edgy is wine.  and the fonts look a bit off.  not so much bad just different than in dapper07:06
DrZootWhy did they change adept in the latest release? I thought it was really good and now it seems like its been redesigned for children07:06
larson9999i'm doing a fresh install anyway07:06
xsachawine doesnt work from upgrade?07:06
feldegastsome0ne: great, but xgl makes stuff not work (like adjusting display properties in kde)07:06
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DrZootimo xgl isnt worth it yet, to many problems for a little bit of eye candy07:07
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newmedianIs anyone running daemontools (for djbnds) on Edgy? Edgy doesn't seem to be respecting my SV:123456:respawn:/command/svscanboot in inittab.07:07
zorglu_DrZoot: it is why it is good on livecd :)07:07
mick-wwhat new eye candy? new kde or something?07:07
larson9999xsacha: doesn't for me.  it worked after 'apt-get upgrade' but not after 'apt-get dist-upgrade'07:07
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: u'r kde user?07:07
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zorglu_DrZoot: you play with it but dont dammage box which must run07:07
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TheGateKeeperDrZoot: well I am not willing to do a fresh install every 6 months so I am now looking for a replacement that I can be happy with07:08
TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: yep07:08
some0nefeldegast, AIGLX.07:08
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some0nesome0ne, Only ati's drivers force don't use AIGLX.07:09
DrZootTheGateKeeper: its not for everyone but I found that gentoo ages very well, upgrades tend not to break things but recompiling can be a pain07:09
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St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: can u show me screenshot?07:10
TheGateKeeperDrZoot: well it does seem that is where I am heading, other possibilities are kanotix (too much installed by default) or may be arch07:10
some0nezorglu_, Blob, as in closed source binary.07:10
axiomkmail: is there any way to write inline links in outgoing messages?  Like <a href='http://google.com'>foo</a>07:12
DrZootTheGateKeeper: yeah that was another thing I loved about gentoo, it comes preinstalled with just about nothing, by the time your finished setting it up you know every single program on the system, no surprises07:12
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TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: http://shots.osdir.com/07:12
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larson9999i was going to try gentoo but i figured i'd have less to compile if i went with lfs07:13
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: ty07:13
TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: yw :-)07:13
St_MPA3bAre here any firefox + beryl users?07:13
some0neSt_MPA3b, Anyone who uses Beryl is most likely using Firefox.07:13
St_MPA3bsome0ne: i have but with em :(07:13
DrZootwhy is kdevelop not in edgy ><07:13
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some0neSt_MPA3b, What?07:14
xsachait is drzoot07:14
xsachain repository..07:14
TheGateKeeperDrZoot: much as I like kubuntu, 2 things are driving me away, unreliable upgrade path, & it's slow compared to other distros07:14
DrZootyeah, its prolly my repos07:14
feldegastxsacha: it was removed during my upgrade07:14
xsachainstall it again?07:15
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some0neTheGateKeeper, That's because it has to do everything.07:15
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DrZootTheGateKeeper: yeah it is alot slower .... damnit the more I talk to you the more I convince myself I should go back to gentoo again ><07:15
xsachago to CRUX :)07:15
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TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: I use firefox 1.5, not 2 because none of the extension work :-(07:15
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david_TheGateKeeper: it's slow because of the 386 kernel07:16
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: i have the solution07:16
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TheGateKeeperDrZoot: try arch07:16
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St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: install MrTech Locan Install and make all ext compataible07:16
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: can u give me a list of extensions?07:16
david_does anyone know where the 686 binary kernel has gone from (k)ubuntu?07:17
TheGateKeeperdavid_: well I wish they would they would provide an i686 varient07:17
david_yeah, they used to07:17
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Tm_TIt's all "generic" now.07:17
david_I mean you can always apt-get kernel-source. with make-kpkg07:17
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TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: well most important is google notes & bookmark sync07:17
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david_why have they removed the 686 build?07:18
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ubuntu_hey, i would like much to know how to update to edgy (am on dapper) is it by changing every dapper to edgy in the sources.list file07:18
ubuntu_?07:18
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david_ubuntu_ yep.07:18
feldegastthey removed the amd64 extra kernels too07:18
david_then run apt-get update07:18
ubuntu_ok thnx07:18
david_and apt-get dist-upgrade07:18
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ubuntu_bye07:18
david_bye then07:18
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: bookmarc sync -> foxmarks (it's really better).07:18
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St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: and whats goodle notes?07:20
newmedianWhen I upgraded to Edgy, by default it is giving me only 1 of my cores. If you do a dmesg|more early on I get WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached.  Processor ignored.07:21
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TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: ok thanx, google notes <--- I miss spelt it07:21
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david_newmedian: for some reason it's running a very old kernel07:21
david_we're not sure why they've changed this.07:22
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david_well07:22
pielgrzym!pastebin07:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:22
david_it's a new kernel07:22
david_but, compiled for old machines07:22
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bobbyyuWhere can I find diskmounter? I need to write access my Windows mounts.07:22
axiomKmail links:  Guess not.  Go vote for this bug then.  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13646807:22
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: =/07:23
newmediandavid, I was hearing anecdotally that switching to the "generic" enabled more cores? but that people were experiencing issues with the "generic" one.07:23
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: what google notes for?07:23
larson9999that pastebin doesn't seem to allow screenshots.07:23
david_newmedian: the only kernel build left is generic07:23
bobbyyu!diskmounter07:23
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse07:23
david_all others just point to that07:23
TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: I use it as a way of making notes particularly about linux as I pick up little tips, also means I have access to those notes on multiple machines07:24
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newmediandavid, would you know anything about the new startup procedure for Edgy? It seems to be ignoring my SV:123456:respawn:/command/svscanboot line in /etc/inittab07:25
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TheGateKeeperdavid_: should I install linux-image-2.6.15-27-686 then ?07:26
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St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: can u give me homepage? Can't google it o_O07:27
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david_TheGateKeeper: what cpu do you ahve?07:28
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TheGateKeeperlarson9999: I see the new pastebin doesn't but the old one used to, yet another backwards step :-(07:28
TheGateKeeperdavid_: on this Athlon XP2200+07:29
david_you'd want k7 then07:29
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david_however, they seem to have not made 2.6.17 builds of all these yet07:29
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TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: possible calling it Google Notebook, but amounts to the same thing: https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=notebook&passive=true&nui=1&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fnotebook%2Fdownload%3Fcontinue%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252Fnotebook07:30
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TheGateKeeperdavid_: I got one of them too (k7)07:31
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TheGateKeeperdavid_: linux-image-2.6.15-27-k707:32
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ketsugiHow do I theme kdm in Edgy?07:32
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ketsugiI installed the kdmtheme package07:32
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ketsugibut I don't see any KDM theme item in my System Settings07:33
ketsugioh nvm07:33
ketsugiI found it in kcontrol07:33
Marc_if i uninstall kubuntu will i lose all my stuff on the drive?07:33
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St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: it works for me07:33
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: i mean extension07:33
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TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: on Firefox 2 ?07:34
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: no, on 4.2 :).07:34
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: ofc on 2.007:34
TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: just checking because someone told me otherwise the other day07:35
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ketsugiI can't seem to use Administrator Mode in anything07:35
TheGateKeeperdavid_: you reckon I should install that?07:35
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ketsugiI get this error on the CLI: kdesu (kdelibs): WARNING: No X authentication info set for display :1.007:35
VanessaEhiho07:35
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: y... works...07:36
TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: woow07:36
ketsugiOnly happens when using Beryl07:36
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TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: ok thanx for the info07:38
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SHRIKEEbooM!07:38
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TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: you new to kubuntu?07:38
CVirus!upgrade07:38
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)07:38
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: ^_^. i'm gnomer07:38
Ahmuckazerus does not work in edgy ?07:39
TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: ahhh07:39
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: 6th day in linux. Ubuntu is my 1st distib, i havent worked in any other07:39
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: u use beryl?07:39
SHRIKEEheh Blacken, i just upgraded with no troubles07:39
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TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: collection of usefull bits & pieces I have found ---> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home07:40
TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: nope I don't use beryl07:40
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: ty.07:40
TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: yw :-)07:40
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St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: u have tryed beryl?07:41
TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: I have looked at xgl seen videos & never bothered with it as it doesn't seem to serve any usefull purpose at least not for me07:41
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TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: nope ^^^07:42
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: cube is really useful07:42
TheGateKeeperfood, back is a bit...07:42
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St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: imagine the cube with 4 viewports on it07:42
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St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: and u can turn it07:42
xdemonhi07:43
xdemoni need help07:43
St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: it's fast ant nice07:43
St_MPA3bxdemon: ok07:43
xdemon!dosfschk07:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dosfschk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:43
St_MPA3bxD07:43
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SHRIKEEwhere did powercontrol go, in edgy?07:43
xdemonhow i can skip noisy windows disk checking, dosfschk?07:43
TheGateKeeperSt_MPA3b: I know seen the videos, back in a bit off for food...07:43
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St_MPA3bTheGateKeeper: ok)07:45
SHRIKEEwtf07:46
SHRIKEEwhy is half of my acpi disabled in edgy :(07:46
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jp__Hi07:47
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BlackenSHRIKEE: Just run the helper application in the power config; it'll fix you up.07:48
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SHRIKEEi did, it wont07:48
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SHRIKEEshrikee@shrikee-laptop:~$ acpi -V07:49
SHRIKEE     Battery 1: charging, 99%, charging at zero rate - will never fully charge.07:49
SHRIKEENo support for device type: thermal07:49
SHRIKEE  AC Adapter 1: on-line07:49
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SHRIKEEwhat does that mean :S07:49
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SHRIKEEwill never fully charge...07:49
SHRIKEEwtf07:49
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reonAre the PLF repos down ?07:50
shadowhywindhi all, i was in here the other day about nvidia not allowing me to start x after reboot. It comes up with no screens found, any ideas?07:50
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rand_lol pk je me retrouve ici moi07:51
wildchildhow do I locate share files with samba:07:51
wildchildsamba:/ ??07:51
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reonshadowhywind, try sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg or something liket that07:51
SHRIKEEsmb:/07:51
rand_je comprend pas j'ai dmarr linux et il m'a connect d'office  ce chan07:51
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shadowhywindthat will reconfigure back to kubuntu drivers, i need to use nvidia drivers07:52
SHRIKEEblacken, i got the panels now, i needed to reload kcontrol07:52
reonshadowhywind, have you installed the nvidia drivers ?07:52
shadowhywindyes, thats the problem, there is a file that i have to delete and i don't remember which one07:52
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shadowhywindthere is some confusion with kubuntu nvidia drivers and nvidia drivers07:52
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reonshadowhywind, are you using nv or nvidia drivers ?07:53
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reonshadowhywind, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25592907:53
shadowhywindi installed from the nvidia website, so i believe i am using the nvidia drivers07:53
bobbyyuI used Diskmounter, and I can't mount the Windows mounts to be writable07:54
reonshadowhywind, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25592907:54
bobbyyuIs there something I did wrong?07:54
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wildchildhow can I install xgl or x (3d desktop) on kubuntu 6.10 ?07:54
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felipe__I can't find the nvidia-glx package in the repos, only the legacy drivers are in there.07:55
bobbyyuCan someone help?07:56
reonfelipe, look at the 2 links I just listed07:56
felipe__reon: ok07:56
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reonbobbyyu, why not just follow the procedure in the wiki07:57
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bobbyyuI did07:58
bobbyyuWhich wiki are you referring to?07:58
wildchildE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:59
wildchildcan someone help?07:59
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wildchildthis happened while I was installing java08:00
Ahmuck_!lock08:00
fdoving!adept crash fix | wildchild08:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:00
ubotuwildchild: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'08:00
TheGateKeeperwildchild: you trying to apt-get while adept is open or something like that?08:00
bobbyyu!diskmounter08:00
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse08:00
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TheGateKeeperwildchild: ohh08:00
bobbyyu!fuse08:00
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse08:00
wildchildfdoving: tnx08:01
TheGateKeeperwildchild: use the konsol & apt-get to install java08:01
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TheGateKeeperfdoving: should I install linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7 if I have an Athlon XP2200+ & will it add an option to menu.lst?08:03
bobbyyureon: which wiki are you refferring to?08:03
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wildchildis there another way to fix sun-java5-jre package beside sudo apt-get -f sun-java5-jre ?08:04
_ShoGo_hi, has been kubuntu edgy released?08:04
TheGateKeeper_ShoGo_: yep08:04
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_ShoGo_how can i update?08:06
DaSkreechLive CD issue08:06
DaSkreech_ShoGo_: sudo apt-get update08:06
_ShoGo_DaSkreech, are u sure?08:06
DaSkreech_ShoGo_: I don't know08:06
DaSkreech what' the problem?08:06
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_ShoGo_lol08:06
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_ShoGo_i answered about how to upgrade to edgy08:07
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_ShoGo_m808:07
fdovingTheGateKeeper: new kernels will be added to menu.lst yes.08:07
DaSkreech_ShoGo_: Answered or asked?08:07
_ShoGo_yeah, asked08:07
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DaSkreechHow do I see the boot messages in Edgy?08:07
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_ShoGo_sorry bout my english. I'm not a native english08:07
DaSkreech!upgrade > _ShoGo_08:07
_ShoGo_!upgrade08:07
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)08:07
_ShoGo_thanks08:07
DaSkreech_ShoGo_: No problem just want to make sure I'm giving you want you want08:07
fdovingTheGateKeeper: do you have the -generic kernel? did you try linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 ?08:07
DaSkreechSure08:07
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mr_ghjghj08:08
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DaSkreechfdoving: esc on the usplash screen should give mteh bootm essages right?08:08
fdovingTheGateKeeper: downgrading to 2.6.15 isn't smart. is this edgy or dapper? (i've assumed edgy)08:08
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TheGateKeeperfdoving: I have what ever came with basic install08:08
fdovingDaSkreech: don't know with edgy. I don't boot very often, sorry.08:08
DaSkreechfdoving: me either :()08:08
TheGateKeeperfdoving: ohhhh no I am still using dapper08:08
DaSkreechI'm trying to use a Live CD to test someone's machine08:09
DaSkreech it was booting fine08:09
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DaSkreechthen I moved the machine ot this house and now it won't boot08:09
fdovingTheGateKeeper: ah.. then try the -k7 one.08:09
fdovinghmm..08:09
DaSkreech I don't know where the issue is cause the stupid usplash doesn't have meeasges08:09
TheGateKeeperfdoving: hmm that looks a bad idea after all08:09
fdovingit should be one of the F-keys.. iirc..08:10
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fdovingTheGateKeeper: i think you want -k7, why would it be a bad idea?08:11
Kiongkuhey guys know wher ethe equivalent of inittab is in kubuntu?08:11
fdovingKiongku: /etc/event.d/ - what do you want to do?08:11
Kiongkufdoving: adding entrance login manager08:12
TheGateKeeperfdoving: I just looked at the moment I have 2.6.15-27-386 so if I move to the -k7 things should get better?08:12
fdovingKiongku: hum? how does that work?08:12
fdovingTheGateKeeper: i think so.08:12
Kiongkufdoving: replaces kdm08:13
TheGateKeeperfdoving: right here goes, thanx :-)08:13
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fdovingKiongku: why do you need to edit inittab (or the replacement) ?08:13
Kiongkufdoving: just looking. still not sure of it08:13
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rolandohi08:14
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rolandohow can i install a dep package using konsole?08:14
jende_Howdy08:14
fdovingroland: 'sudo dpkg -i package.deb'08:14
rolandook thanx08:14
g00lantjena08:14
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Commander-Crowewhere is synaptics in Kubuntu?08:16
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jende_Commander-Crowe: nowhere08:16
Commander-Crowethere isn't one?08:16
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MasterEvilAceuse Adept08:17
jende_Commander-Crowe: nope, but therefor we have ADEPT08:17
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nubI just installed Kubuntu in text-mode, it restarted, I logged in, but now it's sitting on a command line and I don't know what to do.08:19
reonshadowhywind, try sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg or something liket that08:19
rolandonub log int and write startx08:19
jende_Commander-Crowe: or you just want to use apt on the console08:19
Commander-Croweyeah but I can't find what I want in apt08:20
jende_Commander-Crowe: what do you want to do?08:20
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Commander-Croweinstall ICeWM or JWM08:21
Commander-CroweiceWM*08:21
jende_Commander-Crowe: have you got the repos in your sources?08:21
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Commander-CroweI havn't added anything new08:22
nubCan someone help me? The computer just booted up in a black and white text-mode. I entered my login and pass, but it just gives me the command line. How do I get it to the GUI?08:22
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TheGateKeepernub: try Ctrl + Alt + F708:22
jende_Commander-Crowe: pastebin your sources; you knoe how to do it?08:22
Commander-Crowejende_ I think so08:23
jende_!paste08:23
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:23
TheGateKeeperuniverse08:23
Commander-Crowebut i can't remember where the source list is08:23
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TheGateKeeper /etc/sources.list08:23
nerthhi everybody again08:23
jende_Commander-Crowe: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:23
Commander-Croweok08:23
DaSkreechnub: Where are you logged in from?08:24
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nubWhat do you mean?08:25
ruisuyi, hehe, i got problems with my ati P08:25
ruisu:P08:25
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DaSkreechnub: are you logged in on the command line?08:25
nubyea08:25
nubI haven't even seen a GUI yet.08:25
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DaSkreechnub: did you type startx ?08:26
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ruisusomething is happening with the grafics, they get freezed, i mean, the wont update, and some of them wonth show08:26
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nubi just typed that and it says fatal server error: no screens found08:26
DaSkreechnub: Ah08:27
DaSkreechtry sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:27
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jende_ruisu: what?08:27
nubkk08:27
ruisui think its the drivers, how could i uninstallit_08:27
ruisuwhat, i cant see XD, ill post 2more lines08:28
ruisu=08:28
ruisuor 4 P08:28
ruisuok,08:28
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ruisuso, my grafics driver seems bugy, its an ati , the ati drivers08:29
ruisufglrx08:29
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ruisu08:29
ruisu08:29
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RebornDVhello08:30
parsekdoes anyone know why my kubuntu loses the show (files) creation time setting when I close the folder, when I open it again its gone and its also grey in the list so I cant choose it again?08:30
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RebornDVjust did a fresh install of edgy and adept won't launch.. su returned with an error... any ideas?08:30
Ahmuckcan someone reproduce this for me?  if you right click on firefox http bar to copy link you get two dialogs ?08:30
Ahmucktwo copy dialogs08:31
felipe__I just moved from ubuntu dapper to kubuntu edgy and I'm now to kde, in adept manager I don't see the linux-686-smp ?08:31
nubDaSkreech: It's asking me for my video card's bus identifier after detecting my video card08:31
felipe__*new08:31
ruisuAhmuckno, that never happened to me08:31
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DaSkreechnub: and it's blank?08:31
nubno08:31
Ahmuckin edgy ?08:31
nubheh08:31
nubsorry08:31
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nubi'll just press enter08:31
DaSkreechfelipe__: try a reload and then try again08:31
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felipe__is it kernel-image-2.3.27-2-686.smp?08:32
DaSkreechDoes anyone have an edgy Desktop CD and  free machine to test with?08:32
Commander-Crowe2using adapt how do I install build essentionals08:32
DaSkreechfelipe__: Looks right08:32
jende_DaSkreech: to test what?08:32
DaSkreechCommander-Crowe2: search for build-essentials08:32
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DaSkreechCommander-Crowe2: search for build-essential08:32
Commander-Crowe2ok08:33
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DaSkreechjende_: I'm doing a CD check and I get the same progress bar like I'm botting up08:33
DaSkreechBut it's not moving :(08:33
DaSkreechSo I have no idea if it's bad or not doing anything or that's normal08:33
DaSkreechjende_: ok never mind it just jumped to a blinking cusor08:33
jende_DaSkreech: you get a moving bar while nstalling and there is no progress?08:33
DaSkreech I take it that's bad08:33
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DaSkreechjende_: No no bar at all08:34
jende_brb08:34
DaSkreechwell not true I get a bar but it doesn't do anything08:34
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DaSkreechGUess I'll just use windows08:34
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nubDaSkreech: I got to the desired default color depth, I chose the one it selected for me. It popped up with a warning "overwriting possibly customised configuration file; bacup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.2006102903320. it's waiting for me to input something again08:36
wildchildwhere can I turn it off this thing in kopete messenger: allways when some contact change it's status this appears in window :S08:36
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wildchildit's annoying08:36
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DaSkreechnub: By input something you mean you are at the prompt?08:36
afm\colossussettings -> configure notifications maybe?08:36
Ace2016hi all08:36
nubYes08:37
DaSkreechwildchild: in the settings :)08:37
Ace2016my open office keeps crashing08:37
amithow to create local repository ??08:37
nubbut the color depth selection is above this prompt08:37
DaSkreechnub: try startx again08:37
Ace2016 all i did was select an image08:37
Ace2016 is this a known bug?08:37
wildchildDaSkreech: a little bit more specific please :P08:37
nubit gave me the no screens found error again. fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining08:38
slow-motionre08:38
fdovingDaSkreech: tried F6 ? twice maybe?08:38
Ace2016well i guess i'm forced to use windows' open office for a while08:38
Ace2016bye all08:38
Commander-Crowe2http://pastebin.com/81545408:38
Commander-Crowe2there  you go08:38
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Commander-Crowe2my source.list08:38
nubit also did this same thing when I tried to install on the graphical interface mode08:38
DaSkreechfdoving: I'm guessing the CD on the ride over here picked up a gold watch and retired08:38
DaSkreechnub: Would you happen to have two video cards08:39
nubI'm pretty sure I only have one. ATI Radeon X800 Pro08:39
fdovingDaSkreech: maybe you'll have to remove some options before booting the cd. quiet and splash, i guess.08:39
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parsekdoes anyone know why my kubuntu loses the show (files) creation time setting when I close the folder, when I open it again its gone and its also grey in the list so I cant choose it again?08:40
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DaSkreechfdoving: I did that and it stops reading the CD on the same command08:40
fdovingah.08:40
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DaSkreechI'm guessing the CD gave up the Ghost08:40
DaSkreechMy FC6 DVD died as well08:40
DaSkreechL:-( bad weekend08:40
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jende_!Icewm08:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Icewm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:42
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jende_!JWM08:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about JWM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:42
sorush20I managed to fix my computer no thanks to you ...08:42
nubDaSkreech: Any other suggestions?08:43
socketbinderm howdy :D im in the middle of a kubuntu installation but i cancelled the installation of language packs and now it loops forever08:43
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socketbindgeez this is the fourth failed attempt :D08:44
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Commander-Crowe2ok08:45
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DaSkreechsocketbind: Hang in there :)08:45
Commander-Crowe2how do I add build essentals through apt-get using the CD?08:45
DaSkreechCommander-Crowe2: Got your package08:45
DaSkreech!x08:45
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:45
DaSkreechnub: try that for a bit I'm going to the other side of the room08:45
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gigabyteshello everybody08:46
socketbindfifth attempt there ya go :D brb :] ] 08:46
georgebHi, I have a problem with kopete, I can't receive files on yahoo; do you know how to solve it ? thanks.08:46
gigabytesI'm trying to install edgy on an apple powerbook 15"08:46
gigabytesmodel 5,8 (the last model before the intel ones)08:46
gigabytesbut08:46
gigabytesI can't boot up the live cd08:47
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gigabytesbecause the X server doesn't start and I get only a text-mode shell08:47
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feldegastgigabytes: is it a ppc cd?08:47
Commander-Crowe2alright I got it08:47
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gigabytesfeldegast: yes... I get the shell...08:47
gigabytesthe problem is the X server08:47
gigabytesthe livecd boots up and launch the X server, but it doesn't start and I get a shell08:48
gigabyteswhat's the matter?08:48
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rOObcan anyone help me add a entry to my /etc/fstab?........i cant figure it out08:48
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rOObits looks very diff then it did on dapper08:49
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georgebrOOb: what is the problem ?08:49
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afm\colossushe's probably confused by the filesystem's UUIDs08:49
darkpietcinhey08:49
rOObgeorgeb, i want to add my pendrive and ipod to my fstab...so i can a: simply type mount /media/ipod and b: i will have read write axx to it08:50
rOObafm\colossus, yea thats part of iyt08:50
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jende_Commander-Crowe: here you'll get our IceWM http://sourceforge.net/projects/icewm/08:50
georgebrOOb: did you try it as on dapper ?08:51
rOObgeorgeb, on dapper i had a few entries i made08:51
rOObafm\colossus, how can i get the uuids>08:52
rOOb?08:52
georgebrOOb: you can try to add them as you did on dapper, it might work08:52
stephan_hi, i have a problem with $Display. I try to start firefox from root with "firefox --display=:0 -remote openurl\(http://www.stern.de\)" but i get a "Error: Failed to connect to X server". I allready set xhost + from the user with the display08:52
rOObgeorgeb, i dont mess around with my filesystem08:52
shadowhywindhay all, i am getting a Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! message on startx any ideas?08:53
rOObgeorgeb, if it "may" work or "could" work....im not gonna risk it untill i get someone who knows for a fact itll work08:53
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rOObnot worth loosing data08:53
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reonwhere would i enable my Plantronics headset ?08:54
zblachhey all. quick issue with laptops. soon as KDE starts running, it detects my laptop lid switch as closed. it is most assuredly not. how to correct?08:54
georgebrOOb: ok. give me what you added for the ipod and I'll try it on my own :)08:54
rOObgeorgeb, i havent added anything to this one08:54
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stephan_with --display=0.0 and --display=0 i get a Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: 0(.0)08:54
DaSkreechLooking for a CD to burn it to08:54
georgebrOOb: what you put in fstab for dapper08:54
rOObgeorgeb, i want to.....on apper it wsa like /dev/sdb2 /media/ipod then some arguments here08:55
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DaSkreechWHoops08:55
rOObgeorgeb, i no longer have what i did on dapper08:55
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RawSewageLTKubuntu Edgy is great08:55
rOObas this is a new intsall08:55
RawSewageLTfresh install08:55
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jende_Commander-Crowe: got it?08:56
rOObi just find it weird that no one knows to much about this new fstab format08:56
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SHRIKEEPentium M is that centrino?08:56
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socketbindre :D08:56
afm\colossusSHRIKEE: Centrino is Pentium M08:57
SHRIKEEok, thanks08:57
afm\colossusbut not vice versa08:57
shadowhywindanyone have any suggestions for Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!, there is some nvidia file that i have to delete but i don't remember..08:57
afm\colossus;)08:57
SHRIKEE...08:57
felipe__I don't see in Adept the Linux 2.6.17 686 smp??? where is it?08:57
afm\colossusthere are no such kernels any more08:57
rOObdoes anyone know how to add entries to the fstab....using the new formate?08:58
fdovingrOOb: what do you want to know about this new fstab stuff?08:58
SHRIKEEbut there is a 686 kernel?08:58
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felipe__Yeah08:58
rOObfdoving, how to add entries for my ipod and pendrive08:58
rOObfdoving, it doesnt look like it did on dapper08:58
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georgebrOOb: is not new or weird, man mount: "It is possible to indicate a block special device using its volume label or UUID"08:59
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felipe__SHRIKEE: actually I thinks the linux-image-686 its just a container, I don't see the linux 68608:59
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fdovingrOOb: use 'sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda1' if /dev/sda1 is your ipod. to get the UUID. then just use 'UUID=uuidhere /mountpoint defaults,andotheroptions 0 0' in fstab.09:00
SHRIKEEhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85917 im trying that09:00
SHRIKEEon a centrino laptop09:00
SHRIKEEis it still relevant?09:00
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rOObgeorgeb fdoving ahh k thanks...i tink im starting to understand it now09:00
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blackflagwhere can I get the kernel-header for edgy kernel-header-2.6.17-10-386?09:01
felipe__??? anywhay it say its been obsoleted by de generic linux image....whats going on with this generic kerenel? is it smp or is it plain 386?09:01
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fdovingblackflag: package name is: linux-headers-2.6.17-1009:02
reonHow do I scan for attached USB devices ?09:02
jende_fdoving: Howdy... ;-)09:02
fdovinghi jende_.09:02
jende_fdoving: you#re damn busy09:02
boredreon: you can use usbview (if you are using X)09:03
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boredif you want to see if it's picked up correctly09:03
reonbored, what about cli ?09:03
blackflagfdoving: thanks!! I searched with kernel-header..09:03
georgebreon: lsusb09:03
DaSkreechrOOb: man fstab09:03
boreddon't really know. all my comps that use usb stuff are running xorg09:04
haclappyhello everybody! I hope some of you can help me with the following problem: I downloaded the "kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso" file, burned it and tried to install. The LiveCD boots fine, but the installation always hangs at 78%. At this point, one can hear the cdrom drive to speed up and slow down again and again, until it stops. The system is not dead at this point, but as soon as you click somewhere, it locks up completely09:04
socketbindyou may have a defective cd :)09:04
haclappyPS: The checksum of the downloaded file is correct, and the cd integrity is verified. I burnt it 2 times, always same result. Had no problems with prior kubuntu versions.09:04
socketbindi had the same problem09:04
reongeorgeb, thx09:05
socketbindfirst it was a faulty drive then a defective cd a total nightmare09:05
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boredive heard there are problems upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10. what should i look out for ?09:05
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haclappysocketbind, that's bad. But I checked everything09:05
haclappybut in fact, the option of the kubuntu live cd to check the file integrity gives an error! it says that one checksum failed09:06
boredanything really bad or just small stuff ?09:06
Commander-Crowejende_ yeah I got it but I need to install build-essentials09:06
haclappybut on the pc on which I burnt and downloaded the cd, everything passes09:06
VanessaEbored: for some people, major problems.  for others, my husband included, just a couple of minor bugs09:06
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socketbindmaybe a defective drive mine was working for 5 years in a row, now it09:07
VanessaEpersonally, I'm sticking to Dapper :)09:07
socketbindits reduced to a pile of junk09:07
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boredyou did an md5 check on the image yu downloaded ?09:07
boredyou even09:07
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boredVanessaE: kk. dont have anything else to do atm, so i figured i would do an update :)09:07
{slacky}hello09:07
{slacky}I installed Kubuntu 6.10, but when I try shutdown (power off) the pc by kdm the pc stay powered on... why? I tryed to see and I found kubuntu uses "/sbin/poweroff" to poweroff... I modified it by kcontrol but it's always the same I have to say "sudo halt" from konsole09:07
georgebrOOb: my ipod gets automounted; I can't find who mounts it; anyway, this is how it looks: /dev/sdb2 on /media/ipod type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)09:07
VanessaEbored: better you should do a clean install09:07
haclappybored: yes I did.09:07
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VanessaE(after you back up your personal data of course).09:07
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boredhaclappy: i would try to burn it again then. I always burn two copies of my os disks because one of them always fails ^^09:08
boredVanessaE: more fun this way ^^09:08
VanessaEheh09:08
jende_Commander-Crowe: so, install them09:09
boredVanessaE: getting bored with computer stuff anyway so im trying to find something new and fresh to do with them09:09
haclappybored: I burnt it already 2 times :( ... and I have only few cd's left ... and the cd check also passed. maybe I should burn it at a lower speed??09:09
VanessaEyou want something to do?  go install gentoo on one of your throw-away boxes ;)09:09
Commander-Crowejende_ I am09:09
VanessaEthat'll keep you busy for a couple of weeks :)(09:09
haclappyI just don't want to waste more cds ... on the other side, I now got a pc without working os :S09:09
jende_Commander-Crowe: good on ya09:09
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socketbindi would recommend to replace the drive :)09:10
boredhaclappy: that may be a good idea. some of my older cdroms have problems reading cds burned at higher speeds. esp over a long period of time (when the disc gets hot)09:10
boredVanessaE: allready done that :) gentoo was fun but everything took so damned long to compile that i got bored with it :)09:10
haclappysocketbind: I hope it's not broken ... it just worked fine for over a hundred years now :)09:11
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socketbindmine too and it was my trusty companion... but now it's a piece of inert junk:'((09:11
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DaSkreechsocketbind: hi09:11
DaSkreechsocketbind: how's your install?09:11
socketbindhowdy DaSkreech :] 09:11
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socketbindwell i cancelled it at the point when it wanted to download the language packs09:12
socketbindbut the result was a bootable system09:12
VanessaEheh09:12
socketbindso it works09:12
socketbindwhen i cancelled the installation it just froze at that point09:12
socketbindwell it seems to be okay to me09:12
socketbindin fact its lighting fast09:13
socketbindbut i dunno if its flawed or not09:13
VanessaEmy husband's box does seem to boot quicker than mine (both machines are identical), I'll give edgy that much!09:13
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socketbindi hope it isnt flawed anyhow :)09:14
boredarent they using a new booting system ?09:14
socketbindlooks fine for me in every aspect09:14
boredan alternative it init ?09:14
socketbindyup, its called upstart09:14
boredto init09:14
borednice09:14
VanessaEbored: yeah, some sort of event-based parallel thing rather than the traditional series-of-scripts method09:14
{slacky}mmm it's a know bug : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/5913409:14
VanessaEthe new system's a smart idea for sure09:15
boredvery cool indeed09:15
wildchildfor macromedia flash player: can I just download it and install it?09:15
socketbindwell it was about time after 15 years :)))09:15
wildchildor is there a package for firefox09:15
socketbindflashplayer-nonfree afaik09:15
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BlackenUrgh. I hate dash.09:15
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DaSkreechsocketbind: try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:16
socketbindseems okay :)09:16
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socketbindwell i hope so, after 4 failed attempts i'm happy :D09:17
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BlackenIs there a way to get a list of all packages that I've installed that are *not* default packages?09:18
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BlackenI have to reinstall and I don't want to have to go find all my packages by trial and error.09:18
boredyou could do a dpkg -l i think it was09:19
boredbut that will list all installed packages09:19
georgebI recomend flash9 beta for linux; it seems to work ok, http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html09:19
BlackenYeah...I know about that one.09:19
boredand then do a set command with the list as input to make it install them all again09:19
Blackenset command? Pardon, but what do you ean?09:20
Blackenmean*09:20
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boredthere is a set command to use with apt-get so that you can use the list you get from dpkg -l so that they will be marked for installation09:21
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afm\colossusi recommend not using flash whatsoever, until gnash is finished09:21
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SHRIKEEhmm09:21
SHRIKEEi just installed linux-686 and its obsolete?09:21
SHRIKEEreplaced by linux-generic?09:21
socketbindworks schweeeet :)))09:21
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boreddpkg --set-selections09:22
boredthat one09:22
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borednice for reinstalls when you want to keep your packages like you had them on the old install09:22
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sistemasgood afternoon to all09:23
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Blackenbored: Thank you.09:23
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borednps09:23
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boredBlacken: you may have to use dpkg --get-selections to get the list though09:24
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boredhavent used that command for a long time :)09:24
boredits all in the man page for dpgk09:24
boreddpkg even09:24
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=== g00lan goes tv, s STFU i dont want to miss anything
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aterphasmaanybody awake?09:27
Tm_TNever.09:27
aterphasmagood09:28
socketbindi'm always in a trance09:28
aterphasmawhy is my battery icon not changing when i remove my power adapter?09:28
aterphasmait worked fine in beta3, and now it... erm... doesn't09:29
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aterphasmano? *cry*09:31
socketbindso now there is no need for separate kernels? :D09:32
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socketbindi'm awake i'm awake!09:33
socketbindjust took a little nap09:33
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socketbindbtw i have no idea about your battery icon thingy sry09:33
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aterphasmablah...09:34
aterphasmasilly acpi...09:34
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socketbindwell according to linus09:34
blackflagafter upgrading I can no longer use vmware server09:34
socketbindacpi is a serious brain damage09:34
blackflagcan somone help?09:34
socketbindu must be missing the proper kernel modules for it09:34
aterphasmawith a kubuntu generic kernel? please09:34
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socketbindwhoops forgot that09:34
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socketbindi'm used to half thousand versions09:35
aterphasmai'm used to gentoo09:35
alitis4remind me the apt-get install xffs-samba ?09:35
alitis4how was it?09:35
aterphasmakubuntu is easy as pie compared to gentoo09:35
alitis4how was it?09:35
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DaSkreech!vmware09:35
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare09:35
socketbindwell i always wanted to install gentoo but i never had the time to read docs + wait for the install to finish09:35
alitis4!samba09:35
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:35
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shadowhywindhay all i am having issues getting the resolution right on my external i was wondering if someone could help09:39
sam_hi all - i just installed kubunt and i really like it!09:40
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socketbindsame opinion here :)))09:40
twosouls82great to hear that :)09:40
sam_I am thinking of trying out ubuntu as well. is it possible to run knome + kde on the same core packages?09:40
sam_or do i have to install again?09:40
socketbindu just need to install ubuntu-desktop afaik09:41
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sam_cool thanks09:41
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ccomp5950What is the easiest way to upgrade to edgy from dapper?  Anyway to keep my current packages and settings intact?09:41
socketbindupdate-manager -c ?09:41
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VanessaEback up your settings and personal data and do a fresh edgy install, upgrading can be troublesome.09:42
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ccomp5950alright09:42
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socketbindhave fun bye :] 09:44
amithow to create local prepository in directory ??09:48
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ruisuhi, im back, being able to see normally :)m but the ATI control gives me this info: Opengl: Vendor:mesa, DRI:inderect09:49
VanessaEamit: here's how I did it:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29200/09:49
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amitthnanks , let me check it09:50
VanessaE /data/Software is just a directory I created.09:50
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VanessaEyou have to run the script as root or sudo...or at least the `apt-get update` line needs root priv's anyway.09:51
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amitI had follow alsmost same steps09:51
amithttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4286209:51
amitthis link I use09:51
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amitnow I follow this line in source.lst09:52
VanessaEsources.list09:52
amitdeb file:///root repo/09:52
amitafter atp-get update09:52
amitI got no error09:52
VanessaEyeah that's basically it09:52
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VanessaEdid you see it say "Ign:  Packages" near the top of the `apt-get update` output?09:53
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amitbut for #apt-get install d4x09:53
sorush20I keep crashing on regenerating font cache why?09:53
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amitI got this error09:53
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amitErr file: repo/ d4x-common 2.5.6-209:54
VanessaEwhat error?09:54
VanessaEer09:54
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amit  File not found09:54
amitErr file: repo/ d4x 2.5.6-209:54
amit  File not found09:54
amitFailed to fetch file:///root/./d4x-common_2.5.6-2_all.deb  File not found09:54
saxtonIs there a way of stopping X from blanking my monitors? (it does it after only a couple of minutes of inactivitiy)09:54
amitFailed to fetch file:///root/./d4x_2.5.6-2_i386.deb  File not found09:54
amitE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?09:54
VanessaEwhoa, don't paste in here09:54
esaymanyone have any hints on this topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1646404#post164640409:54
VanessaEuse pastebin09:54
saxtonI have tried adjusting DPMS values via xset, but they don't seem to have any effect09:54
VanessaEok, however, notice you used ///root09:54
epsilomhi, questions: the generic kernel of Edgy included 386, 686 and smp?09:54
VanessaEyou need to use the *actual* root of your repos.09:55
saxton(and I'm also not sure that it's DPMS doing it)09:55
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VanessaEmy root is /data/Software/Dapper, hence why I used ///data/Software/Dapper09:55
amitno package ignore09:55
saxtonbut it's not a screensaver, and X shouldn't be blanking the display so quickly anywaY?09:55
VanessaEyours needs to be similar..  I doubt your repos root is in /root :)09:55
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epsilomhi, questions: the generic kernel of Edgy included 386, 686 and smp?09:56
amityes09:56
amitpath is like "/root/repo"09:56
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VanessaEok, then you need to put ///root/repo in the sources.list09:56
VanessaEat least, if you followed the procedure I used.09:56
amitwho to use pastebin09:56
felipe__why nvidia-glx has as prerequisite linux-image-2.6.17-10-386....? I dont want the 386 kernel.....09:57
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VanessaEamit: we all use one of the many pastebins to present multiple lines of text...  helps avoid flooding the channel09:57
ruisunoone knows how to change mesa to ati drivers?09:57
sorush20I have a apt-get install with a big list of packages..09:58
Pensacolais there something like the 386 linux image for edgy, because the generic kernel is not very stable09:58
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amitthanks09:58
VanessaEamit: also, you have to repeat the complete `dpkg-scanpackages` command any time you add packages to your repos.09:58
amitbut again how do I get with repo ??09:58
VanessaE(for me, I just re-run the script)09:58
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sorush20as soon as apt-get isn't able to install one package in the list it will stop how can I get it to carry on and check and install other packages in the list and report to me what it has not been able to install at the end?09:59
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VanessaEsorush: try the --fix-missing switch09:59
VanessaEapt-get --fix-missing install xxxxxx09:59
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amityes I have follow it10:00
sorush20VanessaE: dosent work10:00
VanessaEleave off the package name (xxxxx) and it should automatically pick up where it left off.10:00
VanessaEoh boy...10:00
amitok let me try .10:00
sorush20this is what happens.10:01
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VanessaEsorush: have you tried explicitly UNinstalling the defective package and then doing the upgrade?10:02
VanessaEor is it a dependency of something else?10:02
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Zambouliei installed bf214210:03
Zambouliein linux10:03
amitVanessaE: ok your line in source.lst works for me like -> "deb file:///root/repo/  ./"10:03
Zamboulieand theres something that is supposed to say register now or register later, but i cant see anything in the box10:04
Zamboulieis there any way to bypass it10:04
amitso that ./ is magic10:04
VanessaEamit:  good deal.  does that fix the problem you had then?10:04
amityes . thanks .10:04
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VanessaEyour welcome10:04
VanessaEcurious, I never did get that script/repos thing working on my husband's edgy box..  I should get back to that sometime.10:05
VanessaE(works great on my dapper box though)10:05
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amitthanks a lot .10:06
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amitThis is first time I got help from IRC10:06
loxsHello does anyone know a good binary news reader for linux? currently using klibido10:06
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VanessaEI use knode, not sure how it handles binaries though10:06
VanessaEamit: on IRC it can be a crapshoot, people aren't always available to help despite there being lots of names in the list...it's just an IRC thing :)10:07
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amitVanessaE: yes , I am trying to understand it .10:09
ulaasthe module Monitor & Display could not be loaded10:09
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amitVanessaE: This really takes time to adgest with it .10:09
ulaasany ideas?10:09
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VanessaEulaas: you mean in the kde control center?10:10
VanessaE(or the 'system settings' program)10:10
ulaasVanessaE: yepp10:10
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VanessaEI have the same problem; it's been broken for months on my dapper box..  husband's edgy box too.10:10
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joe_what is apt-get?10:10
VanessaEjoe: apt-get is the standard program used to manage your installed software10:10
rolandohi10:11
ulaasVanessaE: good to hear that it is a global fact :)10:11
boredwe have a bot we can do !apt-get to here ?10:11
VanessaEit's equivalent (but not as pretty) as the add/remove programs icon in the windows control panel.10:11
boredor any other app10:11
DjDarkmanhy ,this beryl recomended nvidia driver messed up my whole display ,how can I go back to the non beta driver?10:11
VanessaEbored: the bot only knows certain keywords, didn't think to check apt :)10:11
rolandodoes easyubuntu work for edgy???10:11
boredkk :)10:11
rolandobecause the official site doesnt work10:11
ulaasVanessaE: plus i am also happy to hear an ubuntu couple ;)10:12
joe_can i use apt-get to install flash 910:12
loxsif you had the repo10:12
loxssudo apt-get install flash10:12
TrollinatorDjDarkman: run the installer again with --help10:12
TheGateKeeperDjDarkman: I think if set the driver back to nv in xorg.conf that will do the trick, did you not back up xorg.conf?10:12
Trollinatorthere is some parameter to remove it again10:12
joe_what is "the repo"10:13
Trollinatorand of course do what TheGateKeepersaid10:13
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loxsdoes anyone know of an irc client which can handle ssl connections?10:13
DjDarkmanthe driver is the problem not the configuration10:13
Trollinatorjoe_: the repository10:13
VanessaEjoe: a "repo" or "repos" is a repository - a website or ftp site that houses debian/ubuntu packages.10:13
Trollinatorthe place where all the packages installable via apt are located10:13
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joe_what if i already have the flash 9 package on my desktop how do I install it?10:14
VanessaEis it a .deb file?10:14
DjDarkmanthis poor excuse of a beta nvidia driver is running my monitor at a low frequency and it hurts my eyes ,I would realy apreciate a fast solution on removeing it and getting back to the original10:14
loxsor an rpm?10:14
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joe_no, it is libflashplayer.so10:15
VanessaEDj: just download the 'regular' non-beta driver and install it (with X not running)10:15
VanessaEit'll overwrite the beta.10:15
VanessaEjoe: copy it to ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugins (I think)10:15
VanessaEer, sorry10:15
VanessaE~/.mozilla/plugins10:15
VanessaE(forgot they changed it)10:15
james22is there a good text sysadmin tool for ubuntu server (like Suse has yast2 etc)10:15
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VanessaEjames: to do what, exactly?10:16
joe_how do I copy it, i'm noob only been on linux 3 days10:16
VanessaEjoe:  use konqueror (file manager)10:16
Trollinatorjoe_: STFW10:16
james22Vanessa: to manage the box10:16
VanessaEjust drag 'n drop it to the right folder, then from a command line,  chmod 755 ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so10:17
VanessaEand restart firefox, should work then.10:17
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VanessaEjames: "manage the box" is too broad of a term...you mean like managing what's installed on it?10:17
VanessaEor do you mean like dealing with config files?10:17
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james22config files -- eg network settings, samba settings etc10:18
yosalut10:18
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gigabyteshello10:18
VanessaEjames: there really isn't a single tool to do that10:18
gigabytesI've installed kubuntu edgy10:18
gigabytesbut I can't install the italian localization10:18
gigabytesI set it during the installation10:19
VanessaEnormally we use stuff like swat for samba, a text editor to maintain everything else, the cups web interface for printers (well, I guess they changed that)...etc10:19
DaSkreech!it10:19
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:19
gigabytesand it is set as the default locale10:19
sorush20asd10:19
__osh__james22: Sorely lacking in Kubuntu. Mandriva and Suse are way ahead in that area.10:19
VanessaETrollinator, how long have you been around IRC?10:19
sorush20are there any other colouring themes I can download for konversaion?10:19
VanessaEjames: that said, KDE is starting to make some headway in that regard - there are some tools in it for managing the basics10:20
VanessaE(users, printers, etc)10:20
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james22Osh: i c ... looks like the only thing it is really missing.... webmin is not bad10:20
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DaSkreechVanessaE: Difference of course being that Kubuntu is very much an upstream Distro :)10:20
VanessaEtrue10:20
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joe_vanessae, when I type /.mozilla/firefox/plugins into konqueror it says The file or folder file:///.mozilla/firefox/plugins does not exist.10:21
VanessaEjoe: don't use a leading slash10:21
VanessaErather10:21
ulaasXine keeps crashing, anyone else experiencing..10:21
VanessaEuse tilde-shash-dot-mozilla.....10:21
VanessaE~/.mozilla...10:21
sorush20kde is better I think than gnome..10:22
VanessaEthe tilde gets interpreted by the system as "my home directory/"10:22
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joheyUpgrading from dapper to edgy... Pray for me!10:22
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shadowhywindhehe good luck10:23
TheGateKeeperjohey: lol10:23
joe_how do you type a tilde from the keyboard10:23
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johey:D10:23
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VanessaEshift-backtick10:23
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VanessaElook next to the '1' key.10:23
wildchild!automatix10:23
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.10:23
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wildchildlink10:23
wildchildneed link10:23
wildchildhow to install automatix10:23
VanessaEjohey: oy..have fun! :)10:23
afm\colossusfucking google it, dude10:24
TheGateKeeperwildchild: what are you doing????10:24
DaSkreechwildchild: use easyubuntu10:24
joe_thanks i see it ~~~~10:24
DaSkreech!language10:24
VanessaEARGH10:24
shadowhywindmy interent all of a sudden got slow, when i came back from a restart, any ideas / tips10:24
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:24
sorush20hi10:24
DaSkreech!coc > afm\colossus10:24
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VanessaEOk ...  afm and troll both of you....don't f'ing tell people google it!10:24
DaSkreech!coc > VanessaE10:24
sorush20this is what I want to do and it keeps telling me that the names are missing or etc.. http://pastebin.co.uk/482610:24
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wildchildTheGateKeeper: I was trying to install flashplugin-nonfree while accoured problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29185/10:25
DaSkreech!easyubuntu > wildchild10:25
joheyIs there any KDE/QT version of gvim?10:25
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sHello. I'm having problems with flash in Firefox 2.0 using Kubuntu10:25
sEverytime i go to a flash enabled page, firefox quits10:25
joe_still not working "The file or folder ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugins does not exist" will I ever figure linux out10:26
shadowhywindi had that problem too s10:26
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soh10:26
shadowhywindinstall beta 9 of flash10:26
TheGateKeeperwildchild: dapper or edge?10:26
VanessaEjoe: sorry that was my fault - they moved that folder.  it's ~/.mozilla/plugins now10:26
si already installed flash 910:26
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VanessaE(it used to be what you wrote...old habit)10:26
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wildchildTheGateKeeper: apt-get install package :S10:26
shadowhywindwhat i did, i removed both flash plugins, that are in the plugin folder, and just copied the one flash file10:27
TheGateKeeperwildchild: which version of (k)ubuntu?10:27
wildchild6.1010:27
TheGateKeeperhmmmm10:27
wildchildkubuntu10:27
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TheGateKeeperwildchild: can you remove the package?10:28
wildchilddon't know10:28
wildchildebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process10:29
wildchild(Reading database ... 80770 files and directories currently installed.)10:29
wildchildRemoving flashplugin-nonfree ...10:29
sshadowhywind: it doesn't work10:29
TheGateKeeperwildchild: well that is where I would start, see if you have broken packages, if you have try & fix them10:29
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joheyOmg! When dist-upgrading from dapper to edgy, when post upgrading, I am provided with a Debconf window telling me to use a nice value between -20 and 19. What is this about? When clicking cancel, apt-get is continuing upgrading, but then again I get a new Debconf window.10:29
wildchildTheGateKeeper: sudo apt-get -f package?10:29
TheGateKeeperwildchild: yep you got it10:30
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TheGateKeeperwildchild: upgrade or fresh install??10:30
shadowhywindyou messed with the plugins in /home/<user>/.mozilla ?10:30
syep10:30
wildchildE: Invalid operation flashplugin-nonfree; E: Invalid operation flashplugin-nonfree10:30
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shadowhywinddisable all plugins too10:30
soh ok10:30
TheGateKeeperwildchild: sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-jre10:31
TheGateKeeperwildchild: you got a broken java pacakage ??10:31
sshadowhywind: how do i disable them?10:32
wildchildyes10:32
sCan't find where in Firefox10:32
wildchildTheGateKeeper: yes10:32
wildchild:S10:32
wildchildcan'r remove it10:32
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TheGateKeeperwildchild: & it's bitching about flash?10:32
yetikubuntu edgy treats all files&dirs not owned by me as "hidden" which is extraordinarily annoying when browsing with konqueror10:32
yetihow do i revert that?10:33
shadowhywindyou should just be able to click on the extension and hit disable10:33
joheyOh no. The upgrade failed. Seems like the Debconf script is broken.10:33
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joheyI get alot of messages like "Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN2> line 25."10:33
wildchild[22:32]  <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: & it's bitching about flash? YES10:34
joheyAnd "DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout' during global destruction."10:34
VanessaEouch10:34
morficwhere in kubuntu can i specify an arbitrary script to be run on bootup?10:35
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joheyAnd "perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "sv_SE:sv:en_GB:en", LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "sv_SE.UTF-8" are supported and installed on your system.perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C")."10:35
shadowhywindyeti , I am still looking for that option my self10:35
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morficyeti: not sure, add yourself to a group that can access them?10:36
TheGateKeeperwildchild: try: dpkg --pending --purge10:36
yetishadowhywind, tell me if you know how to do it...10:36
shadowhywindwill do10:36
yamalyeti: modify or move /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/hidden-root to disable that most annoying behaviour10:36
yetimorfic, nah, i have read permissions on all of them10:36
yetiyamal, oh okay10:36
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sorush20is there any way that I can find out what packages are install on my computer so that next time I can find out what changes I can make10:36
yetiyamal, that behaviour is so windows.. "don't show it to the user so that he won't break it"10:36
TheGateKeeperwildchild: you got to fix the broken pacakages before you can move forward installing (including using automatrix)10:36
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yetiyamal, thanks very much though10:37
yamalyeti: my exact words :)10:37
VanessaEsorush: if you haven't messed with it yet, you could:  ls /var/cache/apt/archives10:37
morficyamal: thanks, nice feature, oh nice feature, need to go link sh to bash so dash won't surprise me down the road10:37
yamalyw10:37
grasshopperhow do i get filemanager in sudo?10:37
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TheGateKeeperwildchild: did you do an upgrade or a fresh install??10:38
VanessaEapt-cache search installed10:38
VanessaE seems to also work10:38
VanessaE(shows 504 packages on my box...but that's probably wrong)10:38
livingdaylighthow do i get filemanager in administrative mode?10:38
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yetilivingdaylight, run command -> "kdesu konqueror"10:38
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livingdaylightyeti: is it possible to have a su konqueror in Applications that opens after i've given password?10:39
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yetiyamal, do you, by chance, happen to know how to globally set konqueror options? i tell him to show the detailed list instead of the annoying big symbols, and when i open it again or from somewhere else (same user!) it's those symbols again10:40
yetilivingdaylight, i don't understand what you want to do10:40
yetioh, you mean in the applications menu?10:40
yamalyeti: suspecting a bug there, seeing that here to :(10:41
yetisure, just add it to the menu, make a new link there and point it to "kdesu konqueror"10:41
yetiyamal, bummer :(10:41
yamalit's among the other dozen bugs I have yet to report10:41
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yacoobhm10:42
yacoobthis konq miss two things10:43
yacoobdelicious plugin10:43
yacooband filterset.g updater10:43
joe_vannessae,  thankyou I've been trying to install that flash9 for 3 days and you made it work. I can watch video on metacafe now10:43
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yacoobanyone can point me to something like these?10:43
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livingdaylightyeti: i'd like to have to launch it from command line. If there wasa sudo version in applications that opens after the password has been given10:43
livingdaylight!paste10:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:43
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yetilivingdaylight, i still do not really get what you want to do, but to me it sounds like 2:41:06 < yeti> sure, just add it to the menu, make a new link there and point it to "kdesu konqueror" <-- should do the trick10:44
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GK_Hakanssonhur bytar man tangentbordslayouten  till dvorak?10:45
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VanessaE!de10:45
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:45
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yetiif you need it from caommand line a.k.a. bash, put an: alias konqi-su="kdesu konqueror" into the bash conf files10:45
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yetiVanessaE, that's not german ;)10:45
VanessaEoops :)10:45
VanessaElooked like it10:45
livingdaylightcan someone look at my menu.lst which seems to be in a mess http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29212/10:45
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MaterMaravillaehi guys, what program can i use to record a demo of my desktop?10:47
shadowhywindlivingdaylight what is your problem?10:47
livingdaylighti've got two hardrives with alot of os's i've installed over time. When i boot up i get a host of  choices many of them dou7bled up10:47
__osh__MaterMaravillae: ksnapshot?10:47
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shadowhywindthe reason why they look like it is doubled up, is the kernel was updated,10:48
MaterMaravillae__osh__ does it record videos?10:48
shadowhywindso livingdaylight, if you don't need the others, just remove the ones you don't need10:48
__osh__MaterMaravillae: No, just snapshots. I assume you could create a video from a lot of snapshots though. ;-)10:48
MaterMaravillaebufffffff10:49
MaterMaravillaehahah10:49
joe_how do I get to recognize my hp printer 880c that is plugged into my usb.  not sure the os even see the usb10:49
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yetijoe_, check dmesg when plugging/unplugging the printer10:49
VanessaEjoe: in a terminal, dmesg   -- do you see anything relating to USB in there?10:49
livingdaylightshadowhywind: i don't know which are which. I have a few Ubuntu ones doubled up and can't distinguish them http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29212/10:49
VanessaE(maybe dmesg | less  so you can scroll with the cursor keys)10:49
shadowhywindwell basically your just going to have to start one by one and go through them all from grub10:50
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shadowhywindright down the numbers, so you know10:50
livingdaylightshadowhywind: you can see i have three same entries for sda1, What do i do with those?10:50
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: you have quite a few kernels there, for each one a recovery mode & on 2 different drives, I have noticed that (k)ubuntu seems to do that10:51
shadowhywindyou could basically just comment them out, leaving the greatest number10:51
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: where is your os now?10:51
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: exactly, its a mess. When i boot up, i'm like ?????10:51
joe_dme10:52
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: i'm in kubuntu [sdb1] 10:52
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VanessaEjoe, did you get anywhere with that flash plugin issue from earlier?10:52
kkathmanI have an application that requires libm.so.6 and libc.so.6, so what library do I need to install?10:52
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VanessaEkkathman: the latter is from glibc610:53
VanessaEthe former, not sure10:53
joe_yeti and vanessa, all I get w dmesg is a bunch of [17242675.200000]  APIC error on CPU0: 01(01)10:53
kkathmanmaybe that will take care of both?10:53
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joe_and [17242679.172000]  spurious APIC interrupt on CPU#0, should never happen.10:53
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TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: well you could copy menu.lst as a backup then comment out / remove the entries that you will no longer use, but BE CAREFULL10:54
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: :)10:54
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softmasteris there any player supports subtitles with rmvb files on kubuntu?10:54
VanessaE(glibc specifically is the "libc6" package)10:54
VanessaE(and libc6-dev)10:54
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: make sure you MAKE A BACKUP!!10:54
kkathmanhmm it says that libc6 is at its current version :(10:54
yacoobhm10:55
VanessaEhm, ok10:55
yacoobhow come dirs with french letters are showing up as squares in konqueror?10:55
VanessaEkkathman, when you do an  `ldconfig -v |grep libc` what do you see? (pastebin plz)10:55
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TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: if you screw up you may have to use a live cd to get back in & make corrections10:56
softmasteris there any player supports subtitles with rmvb files on kubuntu? please10:56
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kkathmanooooooooo10:57
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: what has got me focused on this is that i've tried to reinstall kubuntu Edgy on one of the partitions but consistently get error during ped-disc_ducplicate10:57
kkathmanicck10:57
VanessaE..actually that won't tell me what I want...maybe just list /lib/libc*10:57
kkathmanone sec I'll paste10:57
VanessaEer, ls -l /lib/libc*10:57
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joe_How does fedora core 6 compare to kubuntu 6.10?10:57
livingdaylightAnyone know what a ped_disc is?10:57
livingdaylightI've googled for ped_disc_duplicate but get nothing back10:57
softmastersomebody answer me please10:58
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yetijoe_, in my opinion, kubuntu is much more comfortable because of its package management10:58
kkathmanVanessaE:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29219/10:58
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Zerb_Rissdoes anyone know how to make KDE let me turn up the resolution?10:58
yetimy opinion is that yum/rpm is not anywhere near as goot as apt.10:58
sorush20I'm having amarok problems http://pastebin.co.uk/482710:58
sorush20crash on selecting xine engine10:59
VanessaEkkathman, ok..like 9 shows it's there...10:59
kkathmanyah so I wonder why Im getting that message10:59
kkathmanhmm10:59
kkathmanthis application was running fine until I did the dist-upgrade to edgy10:59
VanessaEwell what exactly is the message you get from the app?10:59
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livingdaylightjoe_: the similarity between Fedora 6 and Kubuntu 6.10 is the 6, hehe11:00
kkathmanVanessaE:   nawk: error while loading shared libraries: libm.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:00
kkathmanthere are several like that11:00
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livingdaylightSo, noone ever come across a ped_disc_duplicated error?11:00
kkathmanlibm and libstc11:00
softmaster is there any player supports subtitles with rmvb files on kubuntu? please11:00
kkathmansorry libc11:01
livingdaylightping joe_11:01
kkathmanlibrt11:01
kkathmankinda odd11:01
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livingdaylightjoe_: does Fedora rock your world?11:01
kkathmanI might re install that app and see what happens11:01
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t3hwiz0rd-SR2word: phoenix?! phoenix! I LOVE PHOENIX!11:01
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: http://www.gnome.org/~chrisime/random/stuff/gnuparted/ped_disk.cc <-- may be something to do with this11:01
VanessaEmy box seems to have libm...  checking.11:02
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: thx, i'll have a look at that now11:02
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t3hwiz0rd!ati11:04
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:04
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: lol, i don't know what to do with that? doesn't tell me what it is. Its true that it happened while i was inteh partition phase of installation.11:04
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: but what to do? :s11:04
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: that is c++ code lol11:05
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: geez...hehe11:05
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TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: well it's looks like a wrapper class, I am not really sure11:05
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: the duplicate bit got me to thinking aobut duplicate entried in grub/menu.lst11:05
VanessaEI'm at a loss, kkathman...11:06
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livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: either way i'm not able to install another os, not with manual partition. Haven't tried letting kubuntu automatically allocate sapce11:06
VanessaEcan't even figure out what package provided that file...however...  Do you by chance run the 64 bit version?11:06
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: you might be better reporting it as a bug or asking one of the devs what's going on11:07
VanessaEonly refs I'm seeing here that make sense seem to point to that.11:07
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livingdaylightTheGateKeeper:i been asking here all day. How or where do i address devs with this issue?11:07
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VanessaEoh here we go...your guess was right, it's provided by the libc6 package.11:08
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: ask to talk to a dev, have you tried to use something like gparted to see if your partition & partition tables are all in good order?11:09
kkathmanggrrrr11:09
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kkathmanI got no idea.. reinstalled and still no joy :(11:09
VanessaEkkathman, are you running 64 bit?11:09
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livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: i tried to use qparted but i had the error come up again11:09
kkathmanVanessaE:  no not at all11:09
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: gparted is what the installer uses anyway11:09
VanessaEoh...hm11:09
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: well yes it uses gparted, if the partition software is having trouble, then that sounds like may be your partition tables are knackered11:11
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VanessaEkkathman, wait, might have something here.11:11
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kkathmanwas workin ok I thought in Dapper, and currently works fine in SuSe11:12
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: looks like there is confusion with sda1 & sdb111:12
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VanessaEby chance was the program you're installing jalbum?11:12
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livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: yes, its something like that i intuited. Hence while no one could help me with the actual error i looked at the menu.lst. I was shocked at the mess of it11:13
kkathmanVanessaE:  nope.. Zend11:13
VanessaEok11:13
kkathmanZend Studio11:13
kkathmanbut I get those same errors after reinstalling11:13
kkathmanvery odd11:13
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: actually this has all started since i installed Ubuntu Edgy on sda1 -  i noticed the doubling effect on  my boot up menu list11:13
CVirusVanessaE: hey .. how are you doing ?11:13
yacoober...localeconf fails here :(11:13
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VanessaEhey CV11:14
VanessaEgoing good11:14
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: that is only a symptom, the underlying problem needs to be sorted11:14
VanessaEack, just in time for me to head off to pick up my husband11:14
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CVirusVanessaE: :-)11:14
VanessaECV, kkathman hang here, I'll be back in ~30 mins.11:14
CVirusVanessaE: take your full time11:14
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: I am not familiar with sata drive (i still use ide) but I guess you need to somehow repair the partition tables11:15
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loxsnetsplit i think11:19
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hadesi have ubuntu 6.06, and rt2500 wireless card, and im trying to set up my computer as a server, that is, so that my friends computer (he has a mac) can use me to connect to the internet. can anyone help?11:19
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hades(please :))11:19
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hadescan someone help me with the wifi ?11:21
hades:)11:21
hadesplease ...11:21
hadesi think thath my system cant see the proper driver ...11:21
hades?11:21
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scionhello11:21
wildchildis there a way to fix more than just one package?11:21
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CVirushades: well .. your card is sure to work ?11:22
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hadesCVirus: well, it works on windows xp11:23
scionanyone know how to upgrade mobile phone firmware in linux?11:23
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hadesCVirus: but its a little unstable, you know11:23
hades?11:23
scioncomes as an .exe only :(11:23
CVirushades: does it work with GNU/Linux ?11:23
hadesCVirus: and since i have only xp home, i cant use my comuter as the server..11:23
hadesCVirus: no11:23
CVirushades: how did you test it ?11:24
hadesCVirus: if i use wlassassistant i cant see any network which i am suposed to11:24
lupine_85scion: if you're brave, maybe wine11:25
CVirushades: is it an external or internal card ?11:25
lupine_85personally I'd do it in vmware11:25
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hadesCVirus: internal, pci if i do ifconfig i can see the interface ra011:25
redtricycleWhat's a bash command to edit variables?  Does sed only work with scripts? "sed 's/.zip//' $string>$newstring" won't work?11:25
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hadesCVirus: i have ra2500 pci card ( wifi )11:25
CVirus!wifi11:25
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:25
CVirushades: ^11:26
hadesCVirus: propably i need to add the drivers to the kernel?11:26
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scionlupine_85: that don't sound too good11:26
CVirushades: just find the proper document https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:26
lupine_85if anything goes wrong, your phone becomes useless11:26
scionthe phone connects better to this linux box then windoze machines!11:27
DFhhey- i have a noob question. apt-cache/-get dont know any "xawtv" package ("E: Couldn't find package xawtv"). am i stupid?11:27
lupine_85you've no idea what freaky aspects of the hardware the firmware updater will have11:27
lupine_85!xawtv11:27
ubotuxawtv: X11 TV application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 227 kB, installed size 656 kB11:27
lupine_85enable universe11:27
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hadesCVirus: thanks, just checking it out now..11:27
DFhlupine_85: ah. thx.11:27
hadesCVirus: ill let you know how i get on ;)11:27
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CVirushades: sure11:28
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gsuvegre11:31
gsuvegRiddell: are you online ?11:32
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caseyomah!iso11:35
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows11:35
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felixjetanyone know how to emulate windows small fonts on wine?11:36
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dragonflysevenHow do I make a cursor scheme larger. I have a 160081200 monitor, and it is hard to see the cursor sometimes cause it is so small.11:37
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felixjetlol dragonflyseven xD11:38
teledyndragonflyseven: there's a 'big-cursor' package.  apt-cache search cursor11:39
dragonflysevencopy that command?11:40
felixjetsudo apt-cache search cursor11:40
felixjettype that11:40
teledynman apt-cache11:40
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felixjetwhen i try to put my screen to 1600x120011:40
felixjetit dont change11:40
felixjetit just expand11:41
dragonflysevenOk... doing it. It just lists a bunch of packages.11:41
felixjetoff to monitor11:41
teledyn!enter11:41
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.11:41
felixjetand i need to move screen moving cursor to the corners :S11:41
dragonflysevenIs there a slider somewhere. I think there is in GNOME.11:41
fdovingdragonflyseven: you can try this too: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/04/msg00202.html11:41
felixjetsorry teledyn u_U11:42
dragonflysevenOk, checking that out.11:42
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caseyomahI can't get an ISO mount to work...11:44
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malickhi11:44
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pitt0071hi11:45
malickwhat's your name11:45
teledynmount -o loop11:45
pitt0071anyone with inspiron 9300?11:45
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caseyomahI did, it pulled up --help11:45
teledynman mount11:45
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Xal2What is that program that displays PC statistics in linux? It is a web page that will show system specs, cpu usage, etc11:46
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pitt0071Xal2, not web page... but maybe you talking about super karramba?11:47
unix_infidelXal2: gkrellm?11:47
unix_infidelconky, any multitude of things.11:47
nimroadneed help , to run emule or compatible program11:47
teledynXal2: maybe something like phpsysinfo11:47
Xal2hmm, not those11:47
Xal2teledyn,  yep11:47
unix_infidelXal2: it runs in firefox as a webpage?11:47
Xal2I think that's it.11:47
unix_infidelahh.11:47
teledynit doesn't show cpu usage though11:48
Xal2I couldn't remember the name11:48
teledynsomething based on rrdtool like cacti will11:48
Xal2Yeah, that's what I was looking for though. Thanks :D11:48
nimroadhelp me11:48
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veronikathere's a nasty regression in kubuntu11:49
veronikaedgy11:49
Xal2What do you mean?11:49
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veronikathe battery module does not work any more11:50
Xal2I've only updated to edgy on my desktop.11:50
nimroadrun a compatible program emule to LINUX11:50
Xal2That was so my IDE CD-ROM drive would work.11:50
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Trollinatornimroad: STFW11:51
nimroadthis is the compatible program_11:52
Trollinatorso... what?11:53
Trollinatorthere are at least 3 emule compatible Programs for Linux.11:53
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noxxlehow can i change my gnome installation to kubuntu??11:54
Trollinatorsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:54
noxxleis that it?11:55
noxxlei wanna remove all my gnome crap11:55
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lobosquehey guys, the mount command is mount -t HD destiny, i tried to put /hdb1 in HD but is wrong, how i do it right?11:56
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noxxledo i hae to change my srouces?11:57
noxxleif i install kubuntu desktop11:57
Trollinatornoxxle: run aptitude in a terminal, select "installed packages" --> "gnome" and hit the - key11:57
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Trollinatorkubuntu-desktop is in the main repo.11:58
rav3nlibxine-extracodecs never succeeded in  installing it from the repos , always manually doing it.. :S   any help why is this??11:58
noxxleyea but after its installed11:58
caseyomahlobosque: Try mount -t auto /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb111:58
Trollinatorof course...11:58
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caseyomahAnyone else has Edgy fail to mount isos on loop?11:59
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TrollinatorJonty's exit message shows very well how clueless Linus Torvalds is...12:00
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caseyomah...And yet he made Linux...12:00
noxxlecompiz or beryl better for kubuntu??12:01
unix_infidelTrollinator: an odd statement...coming from...you.12:01
TrollinatorSo what? Linux is just a SysV clone.12:01
TrollinatorHe said it himself: "Linux is evolution, not intelligent design".12:02
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caseyomahSo Linus was just stating his preferance for symbolic languages over OO language.12:02
ccomp5950Might want to get the full quote...http://blog.levhita.net/2006/07/27/visual-basic%E2%80%9D-did-more-for-programming-than-object-oriented-languages%E2%80%9D-did/12:02
ccomp5950makes more sense then12:03
LastMalla ferrari is an evolution of a model A too12:03
noxxlenow that i apt-getted kubuntu desktop how do i boot to it? i have both gnome and kubuntu on this machine now12:03
TrollinatorHe certainly has project management skills, but he doesn't know much about OS theory12:03
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caseyomahAt X login you select KDE from the menu.12:03
Trollinatoryou can select when you log in12:03
Trollinator^^12:03
softmastercan i share my files on windows network in kubuntu?12:03
ChousukeTrollinator: Why does he need to know theory?12:04
ChousukeTrollinator: he's done it in practice :)12:04
caseyomahsoftmaster: Yes, it's called Samba server.12:04
softmasterhow to activate it12:04
caseyomahsoftmaster: sudo apt-get samba | kdesu kate /etc/samba/smb.conf12:05
aterphasmaare there any fixes for the battery monitor/acpi thing?12:05
TrollinatorChousuke: there *is* a point in theory, even if you and L. T. don't understand that12:05
TrollinatorThe Linux design is a mess12:05
teledynnoxxle: apt-get remove gdm12:05
caseyomahTrollinator: So you're saying that Unix is less of a mess?12:05
ChousukeTrollinator: What software is not a mess?12:05
Chousuke:P12:06
Trollinatorcaseyomah: no, but making such a mess was normal when UNIX was created12:06
ChousukeAnyway, You're making pretty bold assumptions. :)12:06
ChousukeTrue to your name I guess. :P12:06
TrollinatorMicrokernels weren't very well-developed then12:07
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h3sp4wnstill are not12:07
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Trollinatoryes they are12:07
fdoving!offtopic12:07
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:07
caseyomahTrollinator: I would say that Linux is exactly what it's supposed to be: A Unix clone.12:07
Chousukemeh :/12:07
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teledynnoxxle: also apt-get remove any gnome-metapackage if you see any, like gnome-desktop12:07
TrollinatorYou can achieve almost the same performance with a microkernel as with a monolithic kernel12:08
bobbyyuHELP! I can't work my shell!12:08
ChousukeJust when we were about to have a nice micro-macro-exo-whatever debate, you say it's offtopic :(12:08
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bobbyyuWhen I press ls, it says command not found12:08
Trollinatorlol12:08
bobbyyuWhen I type sudo, it says command not found12:08
fdovingChousuke: feel free to move the discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic12:08
h3sp4wnTrollinator: almost being the operative word - not as fast12:08
Chousukefdoving: heh. yeah :P12:08
unix_infidelbobbyyu: most likely you lost your $PATH12:08
unix_infidelmwahahaha...i made a funny.12:09
bobbyyuHow do I regain it?12:09
caseyomahLook at $MAP12:09
ChousukeTrollinator: Microkernels are not a panacea either. :)12:09
caseyomah(My little funny)12:09
teledynbobbyyu: you have no ls command?12:09
bobbyyuNo12:09
Trollinatorh3sp4wn: that's easily compensated by the higher reliability of a microkernel based system12:09
teledynuh oh12:09
redtricycleI have a question about the trash12:10
redtricycleI mv'd12:10
Trollinatorexport PATH=/usr/bin:/usr12:10
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redtricyclesomething to ~/.local/share/Trash/files12:10
Trollinatorum, sorry12:10
redtricyclehow do I make it show up in "trash:/" from Konqueror?12:10
Chousukeyou need /usr/sbin too12:10
h3sp4wnbobbyyu: source /etc/profile12:10
Chousukeand /sbin12:10
Trollinatorexport PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin12:10
teledynbobbyyu: what does echo $PATH say?12:10
softmasteris there any way to use subtitles with rmvb in kubuntu12:10
caseyomahTrollinator: Linus is not the source of the bloatware linux. Linux had microkernels until rather recently.12:11
bobbyyu$/home/bobbyyu/Java/jdk1.5.0_07/bin12:11
unix_infidelLOL12:11
Trollinatorcaseyomah: Linux never was a microkernel12:11
teledynactually you would want export PATH=/usr/bin:/usr:${PATH}12:11
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ccomp5950Linux was always a macrokernel12:12
ChousukeEven if you use a superior technology, it does not guarantee that your product is superior.12:12

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