[12:12] <intelikey> arelisea depends on the client  but yes and or /newserver blah
[12:12] <arelisea> i forget it, schit, "/server irc.pulsa2.com"
[12:12] <arelisea> i want to connect to pulsar2 server,
[12:13] <arelisea> not in ubuntu,
[12:13] <Dr_willis> huh
[12:13] <intelikey> this is not /server ubuntu this is server freenode.net
[12:14] <arelisea> ajam, excuseme, it's my first time
[12:14] <Dr_willis> !irc
[12:14] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[12:15] <Hamal_Dragon> Please, help. I have a problem. I updated to edgy and no i cant boot. It show a messages telling that theres no /sbin/init. I have mounted the partition and indeed theres no init on sbin, and i dont know what to do
[12:15] <heinkel_111> does anyone know if Kwallet is dropped from Edgy?
[12:15] <heinkel_111> mine does not appear when i access my regular websites
[12:15] <Dr_willis> heinkel_111,  hmm.. it is missing!
[12:15] <heinkel_111> :(
[12:15] <heinkel_111> that is a major bummer
[12:15] <intelikey> frambuffering is off center  i could use the monitor adj. to fix this but that would mean adjusting for each screen/window mechenism,  how can i adjust the frambuffer from linux ?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> walletmanager
[12:15] <Dr_willis> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.
[12:15] <heinkel_111> it was one of my most helpful applications
[12:15] <Dr_willis> hmmm
[12:16] <Dr_willis> DOh - there it is...
[12:16] <Section31> Where do I alter the suspend/hibernation settings on Kubuntu?
[12:16] <heinkel_111> whatabout that errormsg? was that for wallet?
[12:16] <Dr_willis> its in there heinkel_111
[12:16] <Dr_willis> that was my ssh session i put the command in by mistake. :P
[12:16] <Dr_willis> its fun when ya get 2 kwallets going in the systemtray
[12:17] <heinkel_111> Dr_willis: how about passing 1 to me, I have none... :P
[12:17] <Dr_willis> heinkel_111,  eelskin kwallets on sale!
[12:17] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:17] <_JP> how do i make "Tools->HTML Settings->Java" retain it's check state in Konqueror? i've tried saving view the profile but the check state always gets reseted after restarting konqueror
[12:18] <Tim_> I have a problem.
[12:18] <Dr_willis> i'll toss in a free 'perpetual motion machine' if you buy 4
[12:18] <arelisea> how can i view the server list?
[12:18] <arelisea> here, in kubuntu irc
[12:18] <Dr_willis> arelisea,  it depends on which IRC client you are using... most have menus/server items that have  a list of them.
[12:18] <intelikey> server list?
[12:19] <Dr_willis> arelisea,  and theres 10000's of servers out there that are not on that list.
[12:19] <arelisea> i don't understand this kubuntu irc,
[12:19] <Dr_willis> xchat has a 'network list'
[12:19] <Tim_> i run the live-cd, have 2gigs free ram, why can't i download a 30mb file to the desktop? thx
[12:19] <arelisea> i want to connect to the server hispano, pulsar2
[12:19] <cobus_> Dr_Willis he cant find VLC
[12:20] <Dr_willis> arelisea,  look in the menus of your irc client.
[12:20] <Tim_> "no free space"
[12:20] <Dr_willis> cobus,  its in multiverse i think
[12:20] <Dr_willis> !info vlc
[12:20] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[12:20] <Dr_willis> universe.. lol.. he needs the repo enabled.. or checked in the pacakte managers
[12:20] <cobus_> ok yes but i dont know where to enable that i might be a bit dumb
[12:20] <arelisea> but i don't remember now how can i do it, i know that in the top window, i can writte "/server .....
[12:21] <Tim_> Dr_willis any ideas?
[12:21] <intelikey> !repos
[12:21] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:21] <arelisea> but, how? /server irc.freenode.net
[12:21] <Dr_willis> Tim_,  some of the ram is used as cache, and as a drive space... how much ram ya got total?
[12:21] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: do you use xterm ?
[12:21] <arelisea> or how?
[12:21] <Tim_> 2gig total
[12:22] <Dr_willis> arelisea,  type /server whatever.the.name.of.that.server   then... thats fairly standard
[12:22] <arelisea> but, how? /server irc-freenode.net?
[12:22] <Dr_willis> you are ON freenode.net right now.
[12:22] <intelikey> h3sp4wn console.   but yes i use xterm and rxvt both a little.
[12:22] <arelisea> okok, yes i understand that
[12:22] <Tim_>  'system monitor' says 218mb Used so, 1,8 G is free?
[12:22] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: do you know about how to change keysyms ?
[12:22] <intelikey> h3sp4wn why what do you need ?
[12:23] <arelisea> for example, /server irc.hispano.irc-pulsa2.net?
[12:24] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: (I know its something to do with .Xdefaults) alt + arrow generates ^[[1;3C - when I want it to generate ^[^[[C (I have got 7 bit input and alt sends escape on)
[12:24] <intelikey> h3sp4wn a ~/.sessionrc file can be written to affect a lot of things in rxvt/xterm as well as general X options.
[12:24] <Dr_willis> arelisea,  if thats the name of the server then that should do it.. TRY it and see
[12:24] <arelisea> ok, i try
[12:25] <arelisea> but it's not work :(
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: I know it can but I have no idea whatsoever how (the xterm manpage is quite cryptic) - but apparantly this problem is not existant on suse
[12:25] <Tim_> Dr_willis, 220MB user memory of 2000, why cant i save a small file?
[12:26] <Dr_willis> Tim_,  could be it has  the /home allocated to a smaller ram disk.
[12:26] <Tim_> Dr_willis, can i make it bigger?
[12:26] <Dr_willis> Tim_,  no idea..i save stuff to my hard drives when i use a live cd.
[12:27] <Dr_willis> or usb drives
[12:27] <Digital-Pioneer> Hi. I'm looking to see if I have direct rendering enabled. I've got an Nvidia GeForce 2 (I think) for a vieo card.
[12:27] <intelikey> h3sp4wn yeah i agree on cryptology there.   have a look at man xsession   it helps a little   but as to a dirrect answer no i don't know exactly what to add there.  i have only written one xsessionrc and that was to change the fountface and colours.
[12:27] <epyfro> Hi
[12:28] <Tim_> Dr_willis,  i should be able to use all the Ram, right?
[12:28] <james> evening (well depends where you are) .. anyone know how to stop kmail from moving deleted mail into the local trash folder?
[12:28] <Cilindrador> i just CTRL-ALT-BCLSPace'd my system
[12:28] <Dr_willis> Tim_,  no idea.. ive not messed with the kubuntu live cd that much.
[12:28] <Dr_willis> Cilindrador,  :) dyd ya mean to?
[12:28] <Cilindrador> and now the resolution's gone to hell
[12:28] <Digital-Pioneer> james: Sure. Stop using KMail. ;)
[12:28] <Tim_> Dr_willis, ok thx anyway.
[12:29] <intelikey> h3sp4wn but i did notice that once you get your head wraped around the concept it is pretty streight forword thinking
[12:29] <james> DP> hmmm seems a lot faster than evolution :-)
[12:29] <Dr_willis> Tim_,  may check the wiki/forums.. for live cd's i tend to use puppy linux, or dsl
[12:29] <Cilindrador> it was supposed to be 1280*800, but now im stuk with 800*600
[12:29] <Cilindrador> any idea how to fix this
[12:29] <Digital-Pioneer> james: I just use Gmail. Better than anything I've ever found locally.
[12:29] <jdiwnab> Gmail > all
[12:30] <james> DP> yes gmail is great but my mail is on a linux server already
[12:30] <Digital-Pioneer> jdiwnab: HEAR HEAR!!!
[12:30] <Digital-Pioneer> james: You host your own e-mail server?
[12:30] <james> DP> yep
[12:31] <james> I like ethernet speed access to it :-)
[12:31] <Digital-Pioneer> james: Ahh, well, I use Gmail, so I can't help you. You might consider installing Gmail on your local system. I hear Google released the source publicly (or something)
[12:31] <intelikey> h3sp4wn i.e. a section with #[rxvt]  as a header and things like RxvtKeymap: input=blah : blah         <== only an example.  like i said i havent actually done that part.
[12:31] <jdiwnab> gmail did that?!
[12:31] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: The thing is the arrows keys themselves are mapped right (the mapping only goes wrong if its prefixed with meta which I have for alt)
[12:32] <Digital-Pioneer> jdiwnab: I believe I heard that.
[12:32] <james> I think it was apis... yahoo released some mail code
[12:32] <jdiwnab> O_O
[12:32] <Digital-Pioneer> Just look it up.
[12:32] <rjb> hi, something's fishy with cdr/dvd recording in edgy
[12:33] <rjb> anyone else observed such problems?
[12:33] <intelikey> h3sp4wn yes.   but  key  [>]  != [alt] +[>]    so you map for  [alt] +[>]   and leave  [>]  alone.
[12:33] <Dr_willis> rjb,  not really..  whats the deal?
[12:33] <rjb> ever since my upgrade last week k3b only produces coasters
[12:33] <rjb> the h/w is ok
[12:34] <rjb> (i reboot into windoze and can record fine)
[12:35] <_JP> !info libqt4-dev
[12:35] <ubotu> libqt4-dev: Qt 4 development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.0-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 4087 kB, installed size 19996 kB
[12:35] <jdiwnab> How long does it take in the alt install when it says "select and install packages" and "Please Wait"
[12:35] <_JP> nice to see edgy has a recent version :)
[12:35] <rjb> no errors are reported during recording, but the disks turn out unreadable
[12:35] <Dr_willis> rjb,  testing now.. burning a .iso file
[12:35] <intelikey> reposting question;     frambuffering is off center  i could use the monitor adj. to fix this but that would mean adjusting for each screen/window mechenism,  how can i adjust the frambuffer from linux     somebody?
[12:35] <rjb> (i tried dvd-r, dvd+r and dvd-rw)
[12:36] <Dr_willis> do cd's work rjb ?
[12:36] <rjb> ah, haven't tried yet
[12:36] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  theres the fbset command
[12:36] <rjb> only needed dvd's
[12:36] <intelikey> k ty
[12:36] <Cilindrador> i just CTRL-ALT-BCLSPace'd my system, and now the resolution's gone to hell. it was supposed to be 1280*800, but now im stuk with 800*600... Ideas????
[12:36] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  but last i had to mess with that stuff - it was a pain.
[12:36] <jdiwnab> OK, nvm, it is about 5-8 minutes
[12:36] <intelikey> ;/
[12:37] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  my imac was way to the left.. like 5 characters in the console..
[12:37] <Dr_willis> every time i went to X and back.. the console would shift back
[12:37] <intelikey> yeah i'm 4 to the right
[12:37] <Dr_willis> it may be a frequency issue..
[12:37] <rjb> Dr_willis, i'm in windoze now cause i need to burn a few discs..
[12:37] <Dr_willis> unlexx you are on a LCD.
[12:38] <intelikey> crt
[12:38] <h3sp4wn> Cilindrador: use the xfree86 modeline generator (I forget the url)
[12:38] <rjb> i was running out of blanks, and it's late night here
[12:38] <Darkkish> is FF 2.0 out for linux also?
[12:39] <jdiwnab> should be
[12:39] <cobus__> willis how do i connect to a windowz box on a local network?
[12:40] <larson9999> Darkkish: yeah.
[12:40] <Cilindrador> h3sp4wn  i was going to update the driver
[12:40] <Darkkish> anyone have the repository for it?
[12:40] <Dr_willis> cobus_,  depends on how you define 'connect' :)
[12:40] <Cilindrador> using the proprietary one from ati
[12:40] <Dr_willis> cobus_,  samba lets you use the windows 'shares' system..  ssh and 'winscp' let you get files back and forth...
[12:40] <cobus__> i would like to access my shared files on that machine
[12:41] <intelikey> cobus___ samba
[12:41] <Dr_willis> kde has the samba browser tools to browse the windows shares.
[12:41] <larson9999> man, another new wine already?  those guys are nuts
[12:41] <Dr_willis> 'remote places' -> samba shares
[12:41] <cobus__> thank you!!!!
[12:42] <h3sp4wn> Cilindrador: If you put in a modeline you can force it to run at whatever resolution you want
[12:42] <cobus__> I love Linux
[12:42] <Cilindrador> hm, but before i had the correct resolution set, and it was obviously availlable from the config screen
[12:42] <Cilindrador> how come its now missing
[12:43] <intelikey> what have you changed ?
[12:43] <intelikey> vidio drivers ?
[12:43] <Cilindrador> no
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> *shrug* - I know with a modeline it always works right
[12:43] <rjb> reboot, bbl
[12:43] <Cilindrador> i installed xubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, fluxbox
[12:44] <Cilindrador> and then restarted the x server
[12:44] <Rajah3000> What could be wrong If no packages will be found(regardless of what they are!) on; 'sudo apt-get install'
[12:44] <intelikey> why did you demolish x with the three-key-killer ?
[12:44] <Zweideutig> KUBUNTU IS FOR WANKERS
[12:45] <Zweideutig> Sorry.
[12:45] <larson9999> wankers are people too
[12:45] <Dr_willis> sonme of my best friends are wankers
[12:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:45] <Lynoure> Unlike trolls
[12:45] <Dr_willis> many of the people i meet in here are wankers..
[12:45] <larson9999> hmmm, someone hates kubuntu and has nothing better to do than pop into a kubuntu chat room and call us wankers?
[12:46] <Cilindrador> better a wanker than a queer
[12:46] <yacoob> To each his own porn :D
[12:46] <yacoob> perhaps he gets high going around, insulting people?
[12:46] <yacoob> (wait a minute... whole Internet looks like this :D)
[12:46] <larson9999> i think he's looking for wankers
[12:46] <intelikey> Cilindrador try rebuilding your xorg.conf    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:46] <Cilindrador> ok ill be trying that
[12:46] <Cilindrador> brb
[12:47] <Zweideutig> Sorry... I act impulsively.
[12:47] <ubuntu_> hi
[12:47] <Tim_> Hello
[12:48] <Rajah3000> Hello, anybody in here specialize in terminal problems?
[12:49] <intelikey> Rajah3000 define it and we'll see.
[12:49] <Rajah3000> Ok, What could be wrong If no packages will be found(regardless of what they are!) on; 'sudo apt-get install'
[12:50] <Rajah3000> is this typical, or am I just that deadly to Linux?
[12:50] <bomber> are your repositories set?
[12:50] <Rajah3000> Idk
[12:50] <Rajah3000> How would I check?
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> Rajah3000: grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:51] <bomber> the essiest way is to run adept and then use the menu to manage repositories and then look and see if any are disabled
[12:52] <Rajah3000> root@Dellubuntu:~#  grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:52] <Rajah3000> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[12:52] <Rajah3000> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[12:52] <Rajah3000> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[12:52] <Rajah3000> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[12:52] <Rajah3000> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[12:52] <intelikey> Rajah3000  1. your sources.list needs fixing    2. you need to do an sudo apt-get update    3. your firewall is blocking it (not iptables by default)    4.  something else.     we suspect 1  or possably 2
[12:52] <Rajah3000> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[12:52] <Rajah3000> root@Dellubuntu:~#
[12:52] <bomber> you want to enable all of them and disable the cdrom ones
[12:52] <Rajah3000> that is what I got anyway?
[12:52] <Cilindrador> fuck
[12:52] <intelikey> Rajah3000 try option 2   ^
[12:53] <Rajah3000> ok
[12:53] <jdiwnab> !ndiswrapper
[12:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:53] <LjL> !language | Cilindrador
[12:53] <ubotu> Cilindrador: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:53] <Cilindrador> i don't understand 75% of what is written on  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:53] <Cilindrador> damn it
[12:53] <Cilindrador> maybe ill take the easy way out and reinstall
[12:53] <Cilindrador> and reboot
[12:53] <jshaw> tsk. konversation so open this window by default :
[12:54] <Cilindrador> for every big chhange in thesystem i do
[12:54] <intelikey> if that's the easy way.  gopher it
[12:54] <Cilindrador> the hell with this
[12:54] <Cilindrador> im going to bed
[12:54] <Cilindrador> tks anyway ppl
[12:54] <jshaw> ~
[12:55] <Rajah3000> Ok, is that all I have to do is option 2 intelikey
[12:55] <Dr_willis> rjb,  burnt several .iso cd's just fine.. just now
[12:55] <intelikey> it should now find anything in main.
[12:55] <Rajah3000> ok
[12:56] <intelikey> Rajah3000 if you want the other common repos  add  " universe multiverse "    to the end of each of the four lines you posted /etc/apt/sources.list   and do step two again.
[12:57] <intelikey> !repos | Rajah3000
[12:57] <ubotu> Rajah3000: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:57] <Rajah3000> ok, I don't know exactly what your saying, but...oh
[12:59] <intelikey> i'm saying simply edit the file     sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list              and make "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted"    say  "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse "    save it and update    that will enable the universe and multiverse repos for you.
[12:59] <intelikey> @ Rajah3000 ^
[01:01] <intelikey> it's as simple as explaining how to find a newly installed command (package) to a windows expert.   :)
[01:02] <andrew_> can someone explain to me what it means by KDesktop crashed?
[01:02] <Darkkish> ok i can't get firefox to update
[01:02] <Darkkish> how do i install manually?
[01:02] <Tim_> va?
[01:02] <Rajah3000> well I'm reading the webpage, phone call..brb
[01:03] <andrew_> ok that and can someone explain to me what signal 6 is?
[01:03] <andrew_> can anyone help me?
[01:04] <intelikey> ***"i installed wget in my new linux installation but it didn't put an icon on my desktop !  what do i do?"***   :)
[01:04] <intelikey> KDesktop crashed means ah   "KDesktop crashed"
[01:04] <andrew_> ....
[01:05] <andrew_> i mean what will that cause?
[01:05] <intelikey> is that all the error you got ?
[01:05] <rjb> re
[01:05] <andrew_> it said KDesktop crashed and caused signal 6
[01:05] <jdiwnab> I'm having difficulty installing the NDISwrapper in edgy
[01:05] <intelikey> signal 6 is a terminate signal   iirc
[01:05] <jdiwnab> I downloaded the most recient source, but it won't compile
[01:05] <andrew_> oo ok soooo what can i do about KDesktop crashing?
[01:06] <rjb> jdiwnab: what's the error?
[01:06] <andrew_> that and what will be te effect of it?
[01:06] <NameNomad> I can't figure out where the manual for updating my nvidia driver is
[01:06] <jdiwnab> internal copiler error: Segmentation fault
[01:06] <rjb> ooops
[01:06] <cvasilak> hi kubudians, any way to disable fscheck on a raiserfs at bootime, yes its dangerous but it will speed up things a little(i have multiple partions)
[01:06] <intelikey> find the error that caused it.   look in ~/.xsession-errors   or something like that
[01:06] <NameNomad> ...wait, didn't check the nvidia website, gah, silly me
[01:06] <intelikey> andrew_ .blah means hiden files.
[01:07] <rjb> jdiwnab: folks usually say this might mean bad RAM..
[01:07] <h3sp4wn> cvasilak: touch /pathtopartition/fastboot
[01:07] <jdiwnab> It's not my freakn' ram b/c I already did a memtest to get edgy installed!
[01:07] <andrew_> soo can anyone tell me what exactly it means by KDesktop crashed other hten it crashed? like what exactly will be the effect of it? will I not beable to do certain things or what?
[01:08] <intelikey> jdiwnab you installed build-essential first ?
[01:08] <Homer> so KDE or GNOME
[01:08] <Homer> :(
[01:08] <cvasilak> h3sp4wn: thanks for the answer but i dont' quite understand what you mean :(
[01:08] <rjb> well i just installed ndiswrapper on edgy the other day & it went fine
[01:08] <jdiwnab> I don't know... where woudl I look?
[01:08] <rjb> (the ndiswrapper in the distro was broken)
[01:08] <intelikey> jdiwnab install build-essential  if you are going to "compile" anything.
[01:09] <rjb> jdiwnab: what version number?
[01:09] <h3sp4wn> cvasilak: see man shutdown and the bit regarding the -f flag
[01:09] <jdiwnab> 1.27 for ndiswrapper
[01:09] <intelikey> !b-e | rjb
[01:09] <ubotu> rjb: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:10] <rjb> jdiwnab: i did 1.23, with kernel 2.6.17-10
[01:10] <rjb> and it works ok
[01:11] <rjb> but i'm on amd64 so ymmv
[01:12] <cvasilak> h3sp4wn: can't find doc for the -f flag(running on edgy, if it makes a different), the touch you said earlied is create a fastboot file on each partions(running raiserfs on all)
[01:12] <jdiwnab> sounds about right, and so am I (as far as the CPU)
[01:12] <cdollins> can anyone tell me a resource for setting up vncserver
[01:12] <cdollins> everything that I've seen is for ubuntu
[01:12] <h3sp4wn> cvasilak: Or switch to jfs or xfs (I switched to jfs for exactly that reason)
[01:12] <rjb> of course build-essential must be installed
[01:13] <cdollins> I've used the vncviewer but now I want to host a session
[01:13] <rjb> but that doesn't seem to be the cause of the error u're getting
[01:13] <NameNomad> !update drivers
[01:13] <Dr_willis> the ubuntu spifics for vnc are not that specific. :P
[01:14] <Dr_willis> install vnc4server,  run it.. vnc in...
[01:14] <NameNomad> how do I update my graphics drivers?
[01:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:14] <intelikey> !nv
[01:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:14] <cdollins> vnc4server is not availbale for dapper or atleaast not in the default repositories
[01:15] <intelikey> tty2 [greg@~]  q vnc4server
[01:15] <intelikey> vnc4server - Virtual network computing server software
[01:15] <intelikey> vncserver - Virtual network computing server software
[01:15] <intelikey> !info tty2 [greg@~]  q vnc4server
[01:15] <intelikey> vnc4server - Virtual network computing server software
[01:15] <intelikey> vncserver - Virtual network computing server software
[01:15] <intelikey> ooops .
[01:15] <cdollins> ok
[01:15] <intelikey> !info vnc4server
[01:16] <ubotu> vnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 986 kB, installed size 2332 kB
[01:16] <cdollins> well Im trying to avoid building tightvnc
[01:16] <Dr_willis> vnc4server seems to workbetter for me then the other vnc servers
[01:16] <intelikey> universe
[01:16] <cdollins> by adding by adept
[01:16] <cdollins> but when I search for vnc
[01:16] <cdollins> Neither of the above package are listed
[01:16] <intelikey> you have universe enabled ?
[01:16] <jdiwnab> how do I get that build-essential package without a network?
[01:17] <intelikey> jdiwnab sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:17] <mfb_> it is on the CD since Hoary
[01:17] <cdollins> yeah I tried enabling
[01:17] <cdollins> a couple of disabled lines through adept
[01:17] <intelikey> enable and apply
[01:17] <jdiwnab> k
[01:17] <mfb_> blah, don't use that thing
[01:17] <cdollins> let me double checl
[01:18] <mfb_> sudo apt-cdrom add / sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:18] <mfb_> as simple as this
[01:18] <cdollins> you got to be kidding that your in OS based on a windows manager and your dissing the GUI's
[01:18] <MarianoARG> Hi, when I try to remove (apt-get) some packages related to bluetooth, apt-get warns that kubuntu-desktop is going to be removed...?
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> MarianoARG: doesn't really matter (unless you want to upgrade between versions)
[01:19] <HymnToLife> cdollins, what's the point in using the GUI
[01:19] <intelikey> mfb_ you are confusing two issues vnc4server is not on the cd it's in universe   and the build-essential is for someone else
[01:19] <Darkkish> daaayyuuummm
[01:19] <Darkkish> lol
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> MarianoARG: all you save is a bit of diskspace
[01:19] <HymnToLife> when you can do the same thig three times faster from the CLI ?
[01:19] <cdollins> yeah so that apply line
[01:19] <Darkkish> it took me forever to figure out how to install firefox from the stupid tar >.>
[01:19] <cdollins> made want to double check
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> MarianoARG: or use update-rc.d to remove the daemons from starting
[01:20] <HymnToLife> oh, right :p
[01:20] <MarianoARG> h3sp4wn: you men upgrade with dist-upgrade?
[01:20] <HymnToLife> it's pretty late here :p
[01:20] <h3sp4wn> MarianoARG: dist-upgrading between versions
[01:20] <h3sp4wn> MarianoARG: i.e edgy / edgy+1
[01:20] <willzzz> so wtf is wrong with the new xgl mode shippped /w edgy!? it runs KDE slow as molasses + the fonts are screwed up
[01:20] <HymnToLife> @now paris
[01:20] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Paris: October 29 2006, 01:20:27
[01:20] <willzzz> or it's not liking my nVidia video card
[01:20] <MarianoARG> h3sp4wn: ok, thank you
[01:20] <intelikey> cdollins when you use adept to enable a repo (or disable one) you have to "apply changes"  for it to take affect.
[01:21] <intelikey> cdollins if you edit the sources.list file  you need to  apt-get update to apply the changes.
[01:21] <cdollins> whats the point in KDE for that matter?
[01:21] <cdollins> ok
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> cdollins: there is not one really a few k apps are good though
[01:22] <intelikey> what is the point to X ?
[01:22] <cdollins> its cool I'm just saying that I would figure that everyone usign a distro based on a windows manager would be all about the Apps
[01:23] <cdollins> but its cool if you guys are just as geeky as the rest of us that cool
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> links2 is almost to the point where I would not be really bothered about X
[01:23] <Dr_willis> heh
[01:23] <Darkkish> crap
[01:23] <Darkkish> its not even right
[01:23] <Darkkish> >_>
[01:23] <intelikey> cdollins good way to earn points in a help channel.
[01:23] <Darkkish> i can open firefox 2.0 in console but
[01:23] <Dr_willis> whatever happened to the qt/framebuffer stuff that was supposed to let us do all this stuff without X.
[01:23] <Darkkish> idk how else
[01:24] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: my directfb is now working at 1280 x 1024 (accelerated framebuffer)
[01:24] <OSUKid7> hey, when any new user signs on for the first time, I get two KDE su windows... one asking to run the command kmix '-session' '10d8... and the other to run katapult '-session' '10d9...
[01:24] <cdollins> right :?
[01:24] <OSUKid7> any idea how I can get rid of that?
[01:24] <Darkkish> how do i make an sh open without being in the console?
[01:25] <cdollins> I guess I was having trouble using the app and then before I knew it people where telling me apt-get
[01:25] <cdollins> which is cool I just start wondering what the KDE Dist is worth if no one actually uses it or think its worth using
[01:25] <rjb> hmm any idea how to stop the new kde power manager from autostarting ?
[01:26] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: have you tried it ? http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdenox/
[01:26] <rjb> i'd rather stick with klaptop atm, it seems to do more for me
[01:27] <cdollins> ok so I'm confused
[01:28] <cdollins> I did enable the default universe lines
[01:28] <cdollins> and I'm still not showing vncserver pkg's
[01:28] <shadowhywind_> question all, i have a friend trying to update to edgy, and hes getting this message Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/adept/adept-manager_2.1.1ubuntu3_i386.deb  Connection timed out [IP: 146.137.96.15 80] 
[01:29] <shadowhywind_> any ideas?
[01:29] <cdollins> actually I miss spoke
[01:29] <Dr_willis> h3sp4wn,  looking now
[01:29] <cdollins> there they are I did a fetch updates with adept
[01:29] <cdollins> now have a rediculous number of vnc packages
[01:29] <cdollins> thanks for the hint guys
[01:30] <Dr_willis> yep dozens of variaits. and toools
[01:32] <Darkkish> why does KsCD not work?
[01:33] <jmichaelx> shadowhywind_: tell him to remove the 'us.' from the url of that repo and try again
[01:33] <shadowhywind_> he tried it again, and it worked, thanks anyway
[01:33] <jmichaelx> would anyone have a suggestion as to how to get mplayer-plugin to work properly in firefox (in edgy)? i did uninstall totem, and re-installed mplayer, but it is still not functioning correctly
[01:33] <jmichaelx> good
[01:34] <RogueJediX> Speaking of firefox, will it still be in the next kubuntu release or will it be iceweasel?
[01:34] <jmichaelx> i am trying to get the news videos on yahoo to work... had them working in dapper, but no luck so far in edgy
[01:34] <Darkkish> is edgy out?
[01:34] <RogueJediX> Darkkish: Yup, final build has been out for a few days now
[01:37] <Darkkish> is it worth upgrading yet?
[01:39] <RogueJediX> Darkkish: I've had little problems myself, so I'd say yes
[01:40] <Brydenn33> does anyone here have Point2Play? :)
[01:41] <RogueJediX> jdiwnab: Care to be a little more specific?
[01:41] <jdiwnab> sudo atp-get add cdrom works, but sudo apt-get install Build-Essential says:
[01:42] <jdiwnab> "E: Couldn't get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resources Temporarily unavailable)
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> jdiwnab: /msg ubotu adept crash fix
[01:43] <cellofellow> I'v a programming question. C.
[01:43] <cellofellow> I'm a newb. How do I put a string in a variable using scanf?
[01:43] <Darkkish> OK
[01:44] <Darkkish> i seriously need the most recent firefox repository -_-
[01:44] <Darkkish> i can't make firefox install!
[01:44] <LjL> cellofellow: scanf("%s", variable); , but this is quite offtopic for this channel...
[01:44] <jdiwnab> thank you
[01:45] <cellofellow> LjL: I know it's off topic, I just didn't exactly know where to ask. I guess I've got my printf stuff wrong and not the scanf.
[01:45] <LjL> cellofellow: try ##c perhaps, or just #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:46] <jdiwnab> Do I have to restart after installing build essential
[01:46] <jdiwnab> ?
[01:46] <LjL> jdiwnab: no
[01:46] <LjL> jdiwnab: the only situation i can think of when you need to reboot is when you want to start a new kernel
[01:46] <RogueJediX> That's the beauty of Linux
[01:47] <jdiwnab> I'm still getting a "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault"
[01:47] <LjL> ugh
[01:47] <intelikey> jdiwnab no.  reboot is a M$ thing....     what error are you getting ?
[01:47] <intelikey> java ?
[01:47] <jdiwnab> I am trying to build ndiswrapper 1.27 on edgy, and when I say make, it says Segmentation fault
[01:48] <jdiwnab> Which is why I asked
[01:48] <intelikey> eeeeek
[01:48] <RogueJediX> Whoa. make segfaulting? *shudders*
[01:48] <Darkkish> speaking of m$, they're making it so you can only uwse thier most expensive version of windows in VMWare
[01:48] <jdiwnab> help?
[01:48] <jdiwnab> yes, they are
[01:48] <jay> Hello!  Just upgraded from Dapper to Edgy.  Only problem is WINE.  The only app that I need it for no longer runs (was perfect in Dapper).  Is there a way to downgrade WINE to the version that was in Dapper?
[01:48] <Darkkish> thats rediculous
[01:48] <h3sp4wn> jdiwnab: try using the no stack smasher CFLAG first
[01:49] <jdiwnab> h3sp4wn, what is that?
[01:49] <Darkkish> oh if wine doesn't work when i upgrade to edgy then forget it
[01:49] <Darkkish> i need my WoW
[01:49] <jdiwnab> m$ also makes many new versions so that all the good features cost more than they use to
[01:49] <Dasnipa`> Darkkish, get a life.
[01:50] <jay> Darkkish:  I didn't say WINE doesn't work per se... just my particular app doesn't.  Might work for you.
[01:50] <Darkkish> oh
[01:50] <Darkkish> well i have a custom build of wine
[01:50] <h3sp4wn> jdiwnab: -fno-stack-protector
[01:50] <Darkkish> but i couldn't tell you how i did it, someone helped me with it and it was long and took forever >.>
[01:50] <jdiwnab> that is one reason I  am trying to install linux
[01:50] <jdiwnab> where do I put -fno... because it wasn't on the make line
[01:50] <RogueJediX> Darkkish: And if that doesn't work, there's always cedega. The cvs (or svn, I can't remember) checkout is free, as I recall
[01:51] <Darkkish> cedega costs money
[01:51] <Darkkish> Dasnipa`: don't tell me to get a life >.> WoW is a stress releaver not my life.
[01:51] <RogueJediX> Darkkish: Only pre-built packages cost money, I think
[01:51] <Darkkish> i see
[01:51] <Darkkish> well anyways
[01:51] <Darkkish> WoW works excellent in my build of wine
[01:51] <Darkkish> exept
[01:51] <Dasnipa`> Darkkish, cedega is rather inexpensive...
[01:51] <Jack1> hi.
[01:52] <Darkkish> i can't get the ****ing adio to work -_-
[01:52] <jdiwnab> h3sp4wn, where do I put -fno... because it isn't on the make line
[01:52] <jay> Is there a way to downgrade to the last version of WINE that worked for my application?
[01:52] <Jack1> i hav ethe problem while doing a dist-upgrade to edgy i get:
[01:52] <RogueJediX> Darkkish: Did you try turning off the audio system prior to running WoW?
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> jdiwnab: CFLAGS
[01:52] <Darkkish> um
[01:52] <Darkkish> yeah
[01:52] <Darkkish> several times >.>
[01:52] <jdiwnab> what the heck is CFLAGS?
[01:52] <Darkkish> in several different ways
[01:53] <intelikey> jay you could remove wine and get the .deb from the mirrors and dpkg -i package.deb
[01:53] <RogueJediX> Oh. Well, that's all I had -_-
[01:53] <astronaute> someone know how to install Teamspeak Client and/or Quake 3 on EDGY 64 please ??
[01:53] <jdiwnab> h3sp4wn, what are CFLAGS/
[01:53] <intelikey> jay  i make no promiceses about it not breaking something.
[01:53] <RogueJediX> astronaute: I dunno about Teamspeak, but there's a nice Loki installer for Quake 3
[01:54] <jordi_> hello guys, somebody improved 6.10?
[01:54] <jay> intelikey:  Right... I fully understand that when I start customizing, I run risks of breaking things.
[01:54] <jay> :)
[01:54] <astronaute> RogueJediX:  even on 64 ?
[01:55] <jdiwnab> !cflag
[01:55] <RogueJediX> astronaute: Yup, you just have to run the right file
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cflag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <Darkkish> i think i finally got it
[01:55] <RogueJediX> astronaute: I can give you the site, if you like
[01:55] <NameNomad> !ark
[01:55] <ubotu> ark: graphical archiving tool for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 287 kB, installed size 1004 kB
[01:55] <Darkkish> not the audio
[01:55] <jay> jdiwnab:  the gentoo.org web site has lots of info on cflag
[01:55] <Darkkish> firefox2
[01:55] <astronaute> RogueJediX:  oh yes please =)
[01:56] <jdiwnab> h3sp4wn, what are CFLAGs
[01:56] <RogueJediX> astronaute: You probably know this, but you'll need your Quake 3 CD in the CD/DVDrom unit when you run the installer
[01:57] <astronaute> i have mounted ISO already
[01:57] <larson9999> robert herron on dl.tv is funny.  just about everything that bugs me he says, "i've been using it for a while and i really like it."
[01:58] <jdiwnab> WHAT ARE CFLAGS
[01:58] <h3sp4wn> jdiwnab: Try google (you now know what you need to do) I cannot be bothered spoonfeeding you all the way sorry
[01:58] <RogueJediX> astronaute: Just a minute, my net is slow today
[01:59] <larson9999> compile flags to set compile options
[01:59] <astronaute> np RogueJediX
[01:59] <rag> please somebody have a AMD Sempron?
[01:59] <astronaute> is it liflp ?
[01:59] <astronaute> http://www.liflg.org
[01:59] <astronaute> maybe ?
[01:59] <RogueJediX> astronaute: Nah, they only have the True Combat mod on there
[01:59] <RogueJediX> astronaute: Otherwise, that's the place to go, if you're looking for installers, yeah
[01:59] <NameNomad> how can I update my Ark paths so I can unrar .rar files and unlzh .lzh files?
[02:00] <NameNomad> mainly the .rar files
[02:00] <rag> I have a sempron with problems on "Starting ACPI Services..." on live startup, please help
[02:00] <RogueJediX> astronaute: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake3/linux/linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run
[02:00] <jmichaelx> would anyone know how to set up a bridge between 2 PCs using zeroconf?
[02:00] <RogueJediX> Finally
[02:00] <astronaute> RogueJediX:  i have this file already
[02:01] <jmichaelx> i want one PC to access the internet via the NIC on another PC...
[02:01] <astronaute> its a q3 installer 32bits
[02:01] <RogueJediX> astronaute: Then you're all set. Just look for the 64-bit binary
[02:01] <astronaute> RogueJediX:  64 binary of Loki installer ?
[02:01] <RogueJediX> astronaute: no worries. You get both the 32-bit and the 64-bit binaries after the install finishes
[02:02] <RogueJediX> astronaute: The installer doesn't need to be 64-bit, it just extracts files. It does, however, give you a 64-bit binary you can run
[02:02] <NameNomad> does anyone know how to change the ark paths?
[02:02] <astronaute> RogueJediX:  im afraid i dont understand =) so i have to run installer and put --keep or such ?
[02:03] <RogueJediX> astronaute: No, no. Run it and after it's done you just have to copy the .pk3 files from the CD or ISO
[02:04] <RogueJediX> Or does it do that by itself? I can't remember
[02:06] <astronaute> RogueJediX:  The setup program seems to have failed on unknown/glibc-2.0
[02:07] <astronaute> This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown
[02:07] <RogueJediX> Hm, that's a bit out of my league :/
[02:07] <astronaute> I told you already
[02:07] <astronaute> my kubuntu is 64bits
[02:07] <astronaute> =)
[02:07] <astronaute> and q3 is 32bits
[02:07] <astronaute> on gentoo is easy to do it
[02:07] <RogueJediX> Actually, q3 is both ways
[02:07] <astronaute> emulating 32bits
[02:08] <astronaute> im not sure that q3 is 64 bits, because it cant install actually =)
[02:08] <RogueJediX> Maybe you could ask someone to run the installer and send the extracted files to you?
[02:08] <RogueJediX> astronaute: it is, trust me. I have it on a shelf somewhere
[02:09] <astronaute> RogueJediX:  i can extract files with --keep command i think
[02:09] <Darkkish> where is the best place for KDE themes?
[02:09] <RogueJediX> astronaute: That only extracts the installer, I meant the actual files
[02:10] <RogueJediX> Darkkish: http://kde-look.org
[02:10] <astronaute> eh what files i need ?
[02:10] <RogueJediX> astronaute: The ones that the installer spews out after it's finished
[02:10] <clem> Darkkish: kde-look.org
[02:10] <lontra> !mirrors
[02:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[02:10] <Darkkish> um how do i install them lol
[02:11] <astronaute> RogueJediX:  you are sure i dont need any extra libs for q3 to work ?
[02:11] <astronaute> as it is obviously not 64 apps =)
[02:11] <astronaute> ls -l
[02:11] <astronaute> oops
[02:12] <RogueJediX> astronaute: Well, I then I wouldn't understand why they'd pack a 64-bit binary in the installer
[02:12] <astronaute> RogueJediX:  where you see 64bit binary ?
[02:13] <RogueJediX> astronaute: Look for q3_64 or quake3_64 or something like that
[02:13] <RogueJediX> AFTER you've installed it, of course
[02:13] <astronaute> rofl =)
[02:14] <astronaute> q3ded  quake3  quake3-smp  quake3-smp.x86  quake3.x86
[02:14] <astronaute> but I cant install it =)
[02:14] <RogueJediX> astronaute: You're gonna kill me
[02:15] <RogueJediX> I thought it had 64-bit support, when it only had multi-processor support x_x
[02:15] <RogueJediX> Sorry
[02:15] <astronaute> ok so you killed me actually
[02:15] <astronaute> =)
[02:15] <astronaute> ok so let start from the begining ^^
[02:15] <Darkkish> how do i install edgy?
[02:15] <RogueJediX> astronaute: You could try nexuiz or warsow if you're into that sort of thing, though
[02:16] <astronaute> RogueJediX:  i play only q3/q4
[02:16] <astronaute> sometimes w3
[02:16] <larson9999> anyone give wine .9.24 a try?
[02:16] <astronaute> for w3 wine is ok i suppose
[02:17] <RogueJediX> Darkkish: Two ways. LiveCD or alternative install CD. Or three, if you're upgrading
[02:17] <avalon> Is there a way I can run files that use the Visual Basic runtime through WINE?
[02:18] <Darkkish> upgrading
[02:19] <Darkkish> i'm doing it the way iy says in the topic
[02:19] <Darkkish> so it better work >.>
[02:19] <astronaute> Darkkish:  change dapper by edgy in /etc/sources.lst then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:20] <astronaute> ./etc/apt/sources.lst of course
[02:20] <astronaute> =)
[02:20] <jdiwnab> well, I found out about CFLAGS, ateleast somewhat, and it still segfaults
[02:20] <larson9999> astronaute: are there other ways people upgrade?
[02:21] <Hawkwind> !upgrade | Darkkish
[02:21] <ubotu> Darkkish: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:22] <astronaute> larson9999:  dunno my girlfriend done like this and it worked
[02:22] <jdiwnab> Any help would be appricitated
[02:23] <odla> hi...how can i make kwalletmanager remember my WEP password for my home network.  i'm using knetworkmanager to manage this.
[02:24] <flaccid> odla: knetworkmanager needs to support kwallet. ask in #kde
[02:24] <bobbyyu> OK, when I try to modify file-sharing settings, the damn thing still locks up even when I put a password
[02:24] <odla> flaccid: it works in debian
[02:25] <flaccid> odla: do what you did in debian then?
[02:25] <odla> flaccid: i do :/
[02:25] <flaccid> odla: what happens?
[02:25] <lguilherme> hello, do your use debian linux?
[02:25] <lguilherme> ubuntu
[02:25] <flaccid> i have edgy upgrade problem. please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28967/
[02:25] <larson9999> astronaute: i just wondered because that's what i did on 3 different machines and everything worked great.  but then i hear of all these upgrading issues and just wondered if i'm just lucky
[02:25] <odla> flaccid: it asks for my kwallet passwd then it connects me automatically to the network
[02:26] <odla> flaccid: here it asks for my kwallet passwd and then it still asks me for my WEP passwdc
[02:26] <astronaute> larson9999:  i suppose that if you install lot of softs without adept, or apt-get, it may be risky
[02:26] <flaccid> odla: i would ask in kde. also look in the wallet manually.
[02:26] <astronaute> but people that ask how to upgrade usually use only adept or apt-get =)
[02:26] <Darkkish> i'm getting an erro
[02:26] <Darkkish> error
[02:26] <Darkkish> "resource currently unavailible"
[02:27] <Darkkish> i don't have anything open that would be using it...
[02:27] <bobbyyu> Is there a way to specify a password another way
[02:27] <astronaute> be sure to close adept first Dannilion
[02:27] <astronaute> Darkkish:
[02:27] <bobbyyu> Like from the Konsole shell?
[02:27] <shadowhywind> hello all, i have a friend who is having issues with his xorg, when he tries to startx he is getting, Error opening /dev/wacom : Invalid argument, (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom, No such file or directory.
[02:27] <shadowhywind> any ideas?
[02:27] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  yes
[02:27] <Darkkish> adept is closed dude
[02:28] <astronaute> Darkkish:  then what ressoruce is used ?
[02:28] <Darkkish> how do i check?
[02:28] <muhammed> which directory i have to choose
[02:28] <bobbyyu> How do I do it, astronaute
[02:28] <flaccid> shadowhywind: does the computer have any wacom devices?
[02:28] <jdiwnab> WHY IN THE HECK IS IT SEGFAULTING WHEN BUILDING NDISWRAPPER?!
[02:28] <muhammed> if i want to backup my complete system?
[02:28] <astronaute> Darkkish:  pastbin oplease
[02:29] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  root password ?
[02:29] <bobbyyu> Yes
[02:29] <flaccid> jdiwnab: don't shout.
[02:29] <Darkkish> !pastebin
[02:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:29] <shadowhywind> what is a wacom device?
[02:29] <flaccid> !backup > muhammed
[02:29] <bobbyyu> I need to get into system settings
[02:29] <jdiwnab> I know I should shout, but this is getting me very mad
[02:29] <bobbyyu> Namely, Sharing
[02:29] <flaccid> !baddevice > shadowhywind
[02:29] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  usually you dont need root password, you can do everything with sudo prefix
[02:29] <jdiwnab> *shouln't
[02:29] <Darkkish> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28971/
[02:29] <jdiwnab> **shouldn't
[02:29] <NameNomad> what command would I use to mount my extra hard drive?
[02:29] <bobbyyu> What do I type?
[02:30] <NameNomad> when I try to use the menu mount it tells me that hdb5 isn't in /etc/fstab
[02:30] <flaccid> NameNomad: mount
[02:30] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  you are on edgy kubuntu right ?
[02:30] <flaccid> NameNomad: fs?
[02:30] <bobbyyu> Yes
[02:30] <NameNomad> ntfs
[02:30] <NameNomad> I'm using mc to get something from it
[02:31] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  you type sudo before any root commands, and type your user pswd when asked
[02:31] <shadowhywind> i am not getting any baddevices
[02:31] <flaccid> !ntfs > NameNomad
[02:31] <Darkkish> astronaute: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28971/
[02:31] <shadowhywind> would you like to see the log? i can pastebin it..
[02:31] <bobbyyu> astronaute: So do I type sudo -i ?
[02:31] <flaccid> shadowhywind: i know, but it still could be the problem. you have dif error because nobody usually starts X with startx
[02:32] <astronaute> Darkkish:  did you put "sudo" before your commands ?
[02:32] <flaccid> shadowhywind: remove the wacom devices first
[02:32] <flaccid> i'm made with it to
[02:32] <Darkkish> yes
[02:32] <Darkkish> astronaute: yes
[02:32] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  for exemple : sudo apt-get update
[02:32] <jdiwnab> *mad
[02:32] <flaccid> ah mad
[02:32] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  or anything else
[02:32] <Darkkish> should i restart X?
[02:32] <shadowhywind> I will have try that
[02:32] <bobbyyu> Well how can I get into System Settings?
[02:32] <flaccid> hehe
[02:32] <bobbyyu> sudo systemsettings?
[02:32] <Darkkish> will that do anything?
[02:33] <astronaute> Darkkish:  something is using your dpkg, so yes
[02:33] <Darkkish> k brb
[02:33] <Admiral_Chicago> bobbyyu: why can't you use the GUI?
[02:33] <bobbyyu> I don't know. It just freezes when I specify the password
[02:33] <bobbyyu> Not letting me in
[02:33] <jdiwnab> flaccid, do you have any clue why building NDISwrapper would make GCC segfault?
[02:33] <flaccid> jdiwnab: have you googled ?
[02:33] <Admiral_Chicago> that's strang
[02:33] <Darkkish> shit
[02:33] <Darkkish> :X
[02:33] <Darkkish> that didn't fix anything
[02:34] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  try "ALT+F2" then type for exemple "kdesu kate"
[02:34] <Darkkish> astronaute: that didn't fix my problem :-/
[02:34] <astronaute> Darkkish:  use "top" to see what is using dpkg, i cant help you on it, or you can maybe just reboot =)
[02:34] <Darkkish> lol
[02:34] <bobbyyu> I can get into kate
[02:34] <Darkkish> i thought reboot was a M$ thing
[02:35] <astronaute> Darkkish:  it is, but if you dont know what is using dpkg
[02:35] <astronaute> then its is your thing too
[02:35] <astronaute> =)))
[02:35] <flaccid> Darkkish: you can kill the dpkg process
[02:35] <Darkkish> flaccid: the dpkg process is not running
[02:35] <astronaute> kill the computer !!
[02:35] <astronaute> ^
[02:35] <flaccid> Darkkish: whats the error
[02:35] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  then what is not working
[02:35] <Darkkish> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28971/
[02:36] <avalon> Any way to run VB runtime files through wine?
[02:36] <bobbyyu> Getting into "Sharing" from "System Settings" (Or, I can get into Sharing, but it's blocked off even when I enter the password)
[02:36] <flaccid> Darkkish: the pid could be locked only
[02:36] <jdiwnab> google only has it segfaulting when trying to load the moduals, not in making it
[02:37] <Darkkish> flaccid: what do you mean?
[02:37] <flaccid> lock is on the pid file
[02:37] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  you click on ""Administrator"
[02:37] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  you click on ""Administrator Mode ..."
[02:37] <bobbyyu> Yes I did
[02:37] <astronaute> on bottom of sharing
[02:37] <Darkkish> and i need to unlock the pid file?
[02:37] <bobbyyu> Yes I did
[02:37] <flaccid> Darkkish: yes but i can't remember how. i'm looking on google atm
[02:37] <Darkkish> k thanks
[02:38] <jdiwnab> flaccid, I just did, and google's got nothing on this that I can see
[02:38] <flaccid> jdiwnab: not much you can do..
[02:39] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  and what is not working there ?
[02:39] <astronaute> its all grey ?
[02:39] <bobbyyu> The menu; it's greyed out
[02:39] <bobbyyu> With a red and black border
[02:39] <flaccid> Darkkish: try deleting /var/lib/dpkg/lock then try again
[02:41] <bobbyyu> No solutions, right?
[02:41] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  same thing here, but im not using sharing
[02:42] <astronaute> sorry i cant help you about it
[02:42] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2377/280/1600/filesharing.jpg
[02:42] <Darkkish> how do i delete it?
[02:42] <Darkkish> -_-
[02:42] <Darkkish> i'm so new to this "root" stuff
[02:43] <bobbyyu> I'm going to reboot
[02:45] <Omegatron> 1. would it be possible/faster to download the latest CD over bittorrent, mount the ISO as a drive, and upgrade using apt-cdrom? 2. if possible, can I cancel a dist-upgrade and do that?  I followed the directions on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php but it's super slow
[02:45] <Darkkish> flaccid: how do i get root in konq?
[02:45] <paulw> Darkkish: you're not trying to install from command line while synaptic is updating are you?
[02:45] <Darkkish> no
[02:46] <flaccid> Darkkish: kdsesu konqueror
[02:46] <Darkkish> nothing is updating
[02:46] <Darkkish> flaccid: how do i delete files via konsole?
[02:46] <flaccid> Darkkish: rm
[02:46] <Omegatron> kdesu
[02:46] <Darkkish> flaccid: ty
[02:46] <flaccid> omg the amount of errors on this edgy upgrade is ridiculous
[02:47] <flaccid> fix one error, then get another one
[02:48] <h3sp4wn> flaccid: sudo aptitude purge xserver-xorg-driver~i (you definately don't need those)
[02:48] <flaccid> xserver-xorg-driver~i ?
[02:49] <astronaute> Darkkish:  reboot you computer , you have something using dpkg and you dont now what =)
[02:49] <Darkkish> hold on
[02:49] <flaccid> Darkkish: did you try removing the lock first?
[02:51] <NameNomad> !reformat
[02:51] <ubotu> reformat: simple tool for re-formatting plain ascii texts. In component universe, is optional. Version 20040319-1 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 56 kB
[02:51] <NameNomad> !format
[02:51] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[02:51] <NameNomad> ugh, can't think
[02:52] <Darkkish> god
[02:52] <Darkkish> my mom was on the phone
[02:52] <Darkkish> ERajla;ekrja;qa
[02:52] <Darkkish> GRARGREG
[02:52] <Darkkish> she wouldn't get off
[02:52] <Darkkish> she was asking me stupid questions about a souveneer from Universal Studios
[02:52] <shadowhywind> hehe gotta love the phonecall in the middle of linux troubleshooting
[02:52] <Darkkish> no kidding
[02:52] <Darkkish> "what are you doing"
[02:52] <Darkkish> "trying to fix my computer"
[02:52] <Darkkish> "oh.."
[02:52] <Darkkish> -_-
[02:52] <Darkkish> doesn't even stop her
[02:52] <NameNomad> can anyone tell me what the command for formatting my slave drive to FAT32 or ext3 filesystem would be?
[02:52] <Darkkish> lol
[02:53] <NameNomad> I seriously can't think tonight, too much ish going on
[02:53] <Darkkish> use a partition editor?
[02:53] <NameNomad> hmm
[02:53] <NameNomad> that's just crazy enough to work
[02:53] <shadowhywind> i would just use qtpartition
[02:53] <Darkkish> ok so now
[02:54] <Darkkish> i'm getting a "Broken packages" error
[02:54] <Darkkish> but the other error is gone
[02:54] <Darkkish> i'm going to try via adept realfast
[02:54] <Darkkish> and no
[02:54] <Darkkish> i havn't had it open the whole time
[02:55] <flaccid> Darkkish: the removal of lock fixed it?
[02:55] <Darkkish> yes
[02:55] <Darkkish> it fixed that error anyway
[02:55] <Darkkish> now onto the next one -_-
[02:56] <Darkkish> its working fine in adept
[02:56] <Darkkish> so we'll see what happens from there
[02:57] <jmichaelx> would anyone have an idea how to configure mplayer-plugin in firefox to play embedded .wmv video (yahoo news clips, for example) in edgy? i was able to play these videos in dapper, but since upgrading i've had no success.
[02:58] <Darkkish> shit i hope adept isn't updating wine
[02:58] <Darkkish> it was painstakenly built
[02:58] <NameNomad> write that filesystem you silly mkfs you
[02:58] <OkinawaSkittles5> i am trying to use the kubuntu live cd (6.06) but it keeps hanging up at "Saving Vesa" any suggestions on what to do?
[02:00] <shadowhywind> try noacpi
[02:00] <OkinawaSkittles5> thanks
[02:05] <OkinawaSkittles5> shadowhywind: still hangs up at saving vesa state, i am typing in   noacpi noapic nolapic apci=off    any other suggestions?
[02:06] <shadowhywind> i know this is a long shot, and its probably not it, pnpbios=off
[02:06] <OkinawaSkittles5> i'll try anything right now thanks
[02:06] <shadowhywind> also
[02:06] <shadowhywind> try noapic
[02:06] <flaccid> how can i force remove a package?
[02:07] <shadowhywind> i remember having sort of this same problem
[02:07] <OkinawaSkittles5> yeah, gentoo is the only thing i can get to load but even when it is done installing the x server doesnt want to work
[02:07] <azmodean> I'm looking for some documentation.  I want to boot a linux install iso from my hard drive.  Can anyone point me to instructions to do this?
[02:08] <Omegatron> so is it possible to upgrade directly from an ISO file?
[02:08] <azmodean> yea, I've done it before, but since then I did another install and it overwrote my menu.lst file
[02:09] <Darkkish> wow damn i hope this install works
[02:09] <Darkkish> shit
[02:09] <Darkkish> adept
[02:09] <Darkkish> had to skip somethings :-/
[02:09] <flaccid> geee force options with dpkg do nothing sometimes
[02:10] <Darkkish> huh?
[02:11] <azmodean> the basic outline is you can extract the installer and have grub load and run it, then the installer can mount and load the iso and continue the installation
[02:11] <azmodean> I just can't remember the necessary grub stanzas, and I've spent about an hour searching for them already
[02:13] <NameNomad> how can I change the permissions for a folder/drive using the Konsole?
[02:14] <OkinawaSkittles5> shadowhywind: same thing, hangs up at saving vesa state... this is the first machine i have had problems with kubuntu
[02:14] <paulw> azmodean: look here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948&page=2
[02:15] <Omegatron> but i just want to do apt-get dist-upgrade, not boot off the ISO
[02:15] <Omegatron> with apt-cdrm
[02:15] <azmodean> thanks, that is just what I was looking for
[02:15] <shadowhywind> Okinawa are you upgrading or fresh install?
[02:15] <paulw> np
[02:15] <jdiwnab> !wireless
[02:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:16] <OkinawaSkittles5> shadowhywind: fresh install
[02:16] <azmodean> the last time I did it the instructions were for fedora, but their forums seem to be down atm
[02:16] <Darkkish> i had to do some sort of dkpg --configure thing
[02:16] <Darkkish> or soimething like that
[02:16] <Darkkish> how long will it take?
[02:16] <Darkkish> lol nvm
[02:17] <flaccid> yay i found a work around
[02:18] <shadowhywind> Okinawa try this
[02:18] <shadowhywind> never tried it before try xforcevesa
[02:18] <OkinawaSkittles5> cool, will do
[02:19] <Darkkish> so
[02:19] <Darkkish> after i get edgy installed
[02:19] <Darkkish> do i need to restart
[02:19] <Darkkish> or just restart X?
[02:20] <shadowhywind> i would do a full restart, you got a new kernel to boot into
[02:21] <Darkkish> k
[02:21] <Darkkish> bbl then O.O
[02:21] <shadowhywind> good luck
[02:21] <Darkkish> LOL
[02:21] <shadowhywind> Hows it workin Okinawa
[02:22] <Darkkish> i don't honestly care if it breaks >.>
[02:22] <shadowhywind> *snickers*
[02:22] <Darkkish> if it breaks then i'll juts go back to windows for a while -_-
[02:22] <Darkkish> and download the 6.10 disk
[02:22] <Darkkish> disc
[02:22] <Darkkish> anyways
[02:22] <Darkkish> bbl
[02:27] <OkinawaSkittles5> shadowhywind: still hangs up
[02:27] <shadowhywind> sorry, i am out of ideas
[02:28] <OkinawaSkittles5> its cool, thanks for your help
[02:28] <Darkkish> hi
[02:28] <Darkkish> it worked
[02:28] <Darkkish> wow
[02:28] <shadowhywind> try all of them, lol
[02:28] <Darkkish> everything looks different lol
[02:28] <shadowhywind> congrats
[02:28] <shadowhywind> but a good different an't it
[02:29] <Darkkish> yes
[02:29] <Darkkish> lol
[02:29] <shadowhywind> hay my friend commented the drivers out, now he is getting a X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0, xinit: connection refused (errno 111) unable to connect to X server, xinit: No such process (errno 3) Server error
[02:30] <Darkkish> ok
[02:30] <Darkkish> adept guys
[02:30] <Darkkish> its telling me i need to update python more
[02:30] <Darkkish> should i?
[02:30] <shadowhywind> nod, i had about 5 lines of python s tuff that i had to upgrade
[02:30] <moffa> what repositories do you have enabled?
[02:30] <Darkkish> i have about 30 lool
[02:30] <Darkkish> alot
[02:31] <shadowhywind> hehe
[02:35] <Darkkish> whats wrong flaccid?
[02:35] <flaccid> edgy upgrade w0es
[02:35] <Darkkish> lol
[02:35] <Darkkish> with your videos not working via mplayer?
[02:35] <flaccid> bugs like this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285008 that don't have solutions
[02:35] <flaccid> no with upgrading
[02:36] <flaccid> the packages
[02:36] <Darkkish> oh damn >.>
[02:36] <flaccid> if i finally do it all. i think when i reboot it will not work
[02:36] <flaccid> i have done a lot of manual stuff
[02:36] <Darkkish> scary
[02:37] <flaccid> it is scary
[02:37] <Darkkish> yay i think WoW still works
[02:37] <Darkkish> sofar anyway
[02:37] <moffa> doesnt work for me
[02:38] <moffa> it keeps locking up, i dunno why
[02:38] <Darkkish> uh
[02:38] <Darkkish> well
[02:38] <flaccid> i think its ironic that kubuntu is a desktop os for all users, especially unexperienced users, but upgrading is hard for anyone... in this case just 6.06 -> 6.10.
[02:38] <Darkkish> it doesn't work with wine
[02:38] <Darkkish> i had to make a custom build
[02:38] <moffa> flaccid - try using aptitude to upgrade
[02:39] <Darkkish> yeah imagine trying to upgrade 6 > 7
[02:39] <flaccid> moffa: a good idea. an even better one if that was in the upgrade instructions..
[02:39] <moffa> I had to use it, b/c I had the same problem
[02:40] <moffa> Edgy has been really rough for me
[02:40] <flaccid> edgy is being rough for me too
[02:40] <flaccid> i think i have a 1/50 chance of it working on reboot. if i get there.
[02:40] <moffa> Generic kernel problems too?
[02:41] <moffa> Use the 386 kernel, its working fine for me
[02:41] <flaccid> nah just getting the packages installed is proving very difficult. i have ran into 3 official bugs so far...
[02:41] <fildo> like ? n this for edgy update?
[02:42] <flaccid> developers need to remember that when things don't run as planned in the process, it is a bug
[02:42] <flaccid> yeah fildo
[02:42] <fildo> morning Blood
[02:42] <flaccid> hi there
[02:42] <Darkkish> hey
[02:42] <Darkkish> can anyone help me get sound working in wow in wine
[02:43] <moffa> are you using cedega or wine?
[02:43] <Darkkish> wine
[02:43] <Darkkish> or could someone help me compile a free working version of cedega?
[02:44] <moffa> actually it should be working in wine, and not in cedega
[02:44] <Darkkish> k well moffa
[02:44] <Darkkish> this isn't regular wine
[02:44] <Darkkish> i had a horrible problem with regular wine
[02:44] <Darkkish> i'm not willing to upgrade to regular wine
[02:44] <Darkkish> because
[02:44] <Darkkish> if it screws up again
[02:44] <Darkkish> i have no idea how to get it back to this point
[02:48] <Darkkish> personally i think its a porblem with oss
[02:48] <Darkkish> because none of my OSS audio players work eithert
[02:48] <Darkkish> atleast i think they're oss
[02:48] <Darkkish> because no noise comes out of them
[02:49] <Brydenn33> hey, what do i need to do to fix this? ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28984/
[02:49] <Darkkish> check your qt isntallation?
[02:50] <Brydenn33> i'm pretty sure its installed
[02:51] <Darkkish> no idea sorry :(
[02:51] <Darkkish> i'm tryin gto gte sound to work in WoW
[02:51] <Darkkish> trying to get
[02:52] <Brydenn33> Darkkish: you using Cedega?
[02:54] <Darkkish> nope
[02:54] <Darkkish> wine
[02:54] <Darkkish> a specially compiled version
[02:54] <Brydenn33> auh
[02:54] <Darkkish> that i could never recompile
[02:54] <Brydenn33> CVS
[02:54] <Darkkish> which is why i can't upgrade wine
[02:54] <Darkkish> cvs?
[02:54] <Brydenn33> what special version of wine?
[02:55] <Brydenn33> i know they have test versions
[02:55] <Brydenn33> i think the absolute latest is 0.9.9
[02:55] <Brydenn33> but i'm not 100% sure
[02:56] <Brydenn33> you should try Cedega if ya cant get wine to work
[02:56] <moffa> I'm using Wine 0.9.22, it kind of runs okay, it freezes up sometimes
[02:56] <Brydenn33> wine isn't perfect :)
[02:56] <moffa> ya, its pretty good though
[02:56] <Brydenn33> crashes and lockups are just part of it... but you're right... it's good
[02:56] <Darkkish> its a specially compiled version
[02:57] <Darkkish> that runs wow without errors i was getting from the last latest version
[02:57] <Brydenn33> alright Darkkish. i'm just saying... i have Cedega 5.2 and the latest update if ya change your mind :)
[02:57] <Darkkish> when i walked into buildings wow would FREAKOUT
[02:57] <Darkkish> oh
[02:57] <Darkkish> i'd like to try tht
[02:57] <Darkkish> that
[02:57] <Brydenn33> hehe ok
[02:57] <Brydenn33> 1 sec
[02:57] <Darkkish> doesn't cost anything does it?
[02:57] <Brydenn33> well ya Cedega does
[02:57] <beefsprocket> $5/mo
[02:57] <Brydenn33> but bittorrent is my friend :)
[02:57] <Darkkish> lol
[02:57] <Brydenn33> haha
[02:57] <Darkkish> you can use cedega without paying?
[02:58] <Brydenn33> yes
[02:58] <Brydenn33> they charge you for updates and having a voice in what game to emulate next
[02:58] <Darkkish> lol
[02:58] <Brydenn33> among a few other things
[02:58] <Darkkish> forget that :p
[02:58] <Brydenn33> that's why it's so cheap
[02:58] <Brydenn33> i know
[02:58] <beefsprocket> that and everytime wow or steam updates, cedega breaks
[02:58] <Brydenn33> but Cedega is a fork of wine designed for games
[02:59] <Brydenn33> lol
[02:59] <Brydenn33> ya
[02:59] <Darkkish> so where can i get it
[03:00] <beefsprocket> isohunt, demonoid, mininova, torrentspy...
[03:00] <beefsprocket> etc. etc.
[03:00] <Darkkish> how do i know its the latest?
[03:00] <beefsprocket> get 5.2.3 and 5.2.6
[03:01] <Darkkish> Brydenn33: you were saying something about 1 sec
[03:01] <moffa> 5.2.6 is the newest version
[03:01] <beefsprocket> just that the 5.2.6 torrent is just a cpkg upgrade
[03:01] <beefsprocket> 5.2.3 is the most recent full torrent
[03:01] <moffa> ah ok
[03:01] <Brydenn33> Darkkish: i dont have the latest Cedega client but i have 5.2
[03:01] <Brydenn33> which isnt very old
[03:02] <Brydenn33> however i have the latest cpkg upgrade
[03:02] <moffa> gotta run, I'll be back
[03:02] <Brydenn33> i just tried DCCing it to you
[03:02] <beefsprocket> Darkkish meet Brydenn33 :)
[03:02] <Brydenn33> lol
[03:02] <Brydenn33> exactly
[03:02] <Brydenn33> Darkkish: you there?
[03:02] <Darkkish> yes
[03:02] <Darkkish> i'm here
[03:02] <Brydenn33> k accept this
[03:02] <Brydenn33> 1 sc
[03:02] <Darkkish> k i accepted
[03:03] <Darkkish> sorry never DCC'd on this
[03:03] <Brydenn33> its ok
[03:03] <Brydenn33> you're getting it
[03:03] <Darkkish> yeah lol
[03:03] <Brydenn33> i assume you know how to install a .deb file right?
[03:03] <Brydenn33> k one more file
[03:03] <Darkkish> i've only used mIRC
[03:03] <Darkkish> uh
[03:03] <Darkkish> no
[03:03] <Brydenn33> yah mIRC was my windows IRC client of choice too
[03:03] <Darkkish> i'm a total linux n00b >.>
[03:03] <Darkkish> its the best
[03:03] <Brydenn33> in fact i liked no name script
[03:03] <Darkkish> too bad it fails in wine
[03:03] <Darkkish> i made my own scripts
[03:03] <Darkkish> it was fun
[03:04] <Darkkish> i could make practicly anything
[03:04] <Darkkish> my friend built a websever
[03:04] <Darkkish> and we were working on a system where tons of people could work on one code at the same time in real time
[03:04] <Brydenn33> hey accept that other file
[03:04] <K`zan> Is kubuntu something totally separate from ubuntu or can I just install kde?
[03:04] <Brydenn33> they're one in the same
[03:05] <Brydenn33> just different GUI's
[03:05] <Brydenn33> go to ubuntu.org and read
[03:05] <K`zan> Brydenn33: Thanks, saves me from downloading the kubuntu CD :-).  Apprecaite that :-)!
[03:05] <Brydenn33> hehe no prob
[03:05] <Brydenn33> i like KDE though
[03:05] <Darkkish> you can just install KDE
[03:05] <Darkkish> lol
[03:05] <Brydenn33> not too into gnome
[03:05] <Darkkish> i had gnome on this for a while
[03:05] <Darkkish> yeah
[03:06] <Darkkish> i didn't like all the crap it added to my KDE build so i removed it
[03:06] <Darkkish> er not build but
[03:06] <K`zan> About to replace gentoo on 5 boxes here with ubuntu - been a while since I did deb :-).
[03:06] <Darkkish> thingey
[03:06] <Darkkish> lol wow
[03:06] <Brydenn33> i think you'll like it K`zan
[03:06] <Brydenn33> package system is nice
[03:06] <Darkkish> VERY
[03:06] <K`zan> THis machine is so decadent that it can stand some unnecessary stuff :-) while I re-learn deb.
[03:06] <Brydenn33> and everything is pretty user friendly
[03:06] <Darkkish> almost everything :p
[03:07] <Darkkish> someone needs to teach me how to install things without using repositorys
[03:07] <Darkkish> ies*
[03:07] <K`zan> Well, about the ONLY concern is i386 rather than custome compiled apps, but as noted, this (and most of the machines here) are decadent enough that is really isn't an issue :).
[03:07] <Brydenn33> ya
[03:07] <Brydenn33> ok Darkkish
[03:07] <beefsprocket> Darkkish: easy, download the source, untar, ./configure, make, make install
[03:07] <K`zan> Just a kde junkie :-)
[03:07] <Brydenn33> ready for some help on the install?
[03:08] <Brydenn33> beefsprocket: it's not always that easy haha
[03:08] <Brydenn33> if it was everyone would be on linux and not on windows
[03:08] <K`zan> Will probably need to do a custom kernel at some point, but for now, I'll be OK with just the regular install/
[03:08] <beefsprocket> lol, no, sometimes a checkinstall is nice ;P
[03:08] <caribou8> Where do you go in Edgy to set up the VNC server?
[03:08] <Brydenn33> lmfao ya checkinstall is the way to go
[03:09] <K`zan> checkinstall?  Ahh, much to learn again :-)
[03:09] <beefsprocket> easy to undo the badness of a build gone awry
[03:09] <Darkkish> where did that stuff download to? lol
[03:09] <beefsprocket> K`zan: it's used to make a .deb out of a package built from source
[03:10] <K`zan> beefsprocket: Ah, that should be handy with all the oddball crap I run :-)!
[03:10] <Darkkish> Brydenn33:  i don't think i can PM
[03:10] <Brydenn33> yes you can
[03:10] <Brydenn33> go back to PM lol
[03:11] <linuxbento> hey can someone help me out with something?
[03:11] <linuxbento> i'm trying to run frostwire
[03:12] <linuxbento> already installed it, just don't know how to run it, i am a bit of a noob
[03:13] <linuxbento> anyone?
[03:13] <miyako> I've never even heard of Frostwire, sorry :(
[03:13] <linuxbento> :-P
[03:13] <linuxbento> thanks though
[03:14] <miyako> what is it? I might be able to suggest an alternative that I do know how to use lol
[03:14] <Brydenn33> i know what Frostwire is
[03:14] <Brydenn33> and i think i know your problem too
[03:14] <Brydenn33> hold on
[03:14] <Brydenn33> helping someone already
[03:14] <flaccid> linuxbento: its in the internet menu in kmenu
[03:14] <flaccid> miyako: why not just run the program that is installed
[03:15] <clinton> A few days ago I changed the activation key for klauncer from alt-space to win-space, now the program actually has to load up and is nowhere near as responsive as it was before.  Does changing the key cause KDE to not use a previous instance of it?
[03:16] <miyako> flaccid, I was 80% joking, 20% suggesting that I would be more helpful helping with something i've actually used
[03:17] <flaccid> its hard hard to convey tone over irc
[03:18] <flaccid> wb dildo
[03:18] <flaccid> its funny how long upgrading takes w/ linux/deb compared to other operating systems
[03:21] <Darkkish> lol
[03:23] <zorda> Hey how do i switch from ubunto to KND>
[03:24] <flaccid> KND> ?
[03:24] <zorda> ?
[03:24] <flaccid> what is KND?
[03:24] <Darkkish> LDE?
[03:24] <Darkkish> KDE?**
[03:24] <zorda> Kubuntu
[03:25] <flaccid> !kubuntu-desktop
[03:25] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[03:25] <K`zan> I think he means KDE...
[03:25] <Darkkish> install kde via adept
[03:25] <Darkkish> install kde via adept
[03:25] <Darkkish> its hte best way to do it
[03:25] <Darkkish> then restart X
[03:25] <flaccid> install kubuntu-desktop meta-package
[03:25] <Darkkish> and chose kde on your dropdown list
[03:25] <zorda> Thats it?
[03:25] <Darkkish> before you log in
[03:25] <Darkkish> yep
[03:25] <flaccid> yep thats it
[03:25] <flaccid> removing it is not as easy
[03:26] <zorda> I'm going to see KDE ok befor i get rid of linux
[03:26] <astronaute> can someone help me with DeKorator plz ? it wont change decorations :/
[03:26] <flaccid> zorda: why get rid of linux?
[03:26] <zorda> nothing appelas to me
[03:26] <K`zan> Heh, after linux / kde I dumped wincrap :-)
[03:27] <zorda> the only thing here is secrity
[03:27] <flaccid> zorda: what are you go to use instead?
[03:27] <zorda> Window
[03:27] <zorda> Windows
[03:27] <flaccid> and you find windows appealing why?
[03:27] <zorda> Till i have to get vista
[03:27] <flaccid> Vista is total bloatware
[03:27] <zorda> Games File support and accessablity
[03:27] <zorda> I know
[03:27] <astronaute> windows is noob friendly, its normal they find linux too hard
[03:27] <K`zan> I'll keep XP only because of flight sim, other than that I have NO plans for vista...
[03:28] <flaccid> well windows is shite for accessibilty and you can dual boot or use wine for the games..
[03:28] <LjL> !flightgear
[03:28] <K`zan> Someday I should try wine for m$fs.
[03:28] <ubotu> flightgear: Flight Gear Flight Simulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.10-2 (edgy), package size 2081 kB, installed size 5484 kB
[03:28] <flaccid> astronaute: no reason to give up
[03:28] <zorda> I hate dual booting i cant get rid of linux becouse of it
[03:28] <caribou8> Nobody knows how to set up the VNC server?  It was somewhere in the system settings in Drake, but I have checked everywhere in Edgy and can't find it.
[03:28] <flaccid> zorda: how so?
[03:28] <astronaute> flaccid:  time is the reason
[03:28] <zorda> Linux put a flie on my master with window to boot linux or windows
[03:28] <flaccid> !vnc > caribou8
[03:28] <K`zan> LjL: Yep, but I've been running that FS since it came out for that old apple ] [ :-).
[03:29] <flaccid> zorda: that is easily fixed
[03:29] <K`zan> FG is coming along nicely, esp now that there are resonable helos.
[03:29] <flaccid> astronaute: yes people are impatient
[03:29] <zorda> so other then sucrity what does linux offer?
[03:29] <astronaute> flaccid:   or they simply dont have time, they want things to work immediately =)
[03:29] <linuxbomb> zorda: virus free
[03:29] <flaccid> linux offers everything
[03:29] <K`zan> zorda: I have everything I want and need under linux and am a LOT happoer and less frustrated with it :-).
[03:29] <clinton> zorda: customization
[03:29] <zorda> I cant ever fun mp3s
[03:30] <zorda> run
[03:30] <flaccid> astronaute: kubuntu is far from that
[03:30] <zorda> i cant dl the fing files
[03:30] <linuxbomb> zorda: thats because your an idiot
[03:30] <zorda> Your an idiot
[03:30] <K`zan> zorda: It takes some learning, but it is WELL worth the time spent.
[03:30] <zorda> It says it cant dl the repsitorys
[03:30] <flaccid> fing files?
[03:30] <K`zan> If one is lazy, stick with m$.
[03:30] <astronaute> flaccid:  im not sure, you see actually im on quake 3 and teamspeak for 24h already without solution (on 64bit edgy)
[03:30] <Darkkish> hey guys
[03:31] <Darkkish> any tips on getting OSS audio to work
[03:31] <astronaute> on gentoo its done in 20mns
[03:31] <LjL> !language | linuxbomb, zorda
[03:31] <ubotu> linuxbomb, zorda: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:31] <Darkkish> i ran a test and it says my oss audio is not working at all
[03:31] <flaccid> astronaute: thats linux for ya
[03:31] <zorda> linux offers no game or file support
[03:31] <K`zan> zorda: you got a lot to learn, start early :-)
[03:32] <zorda> And its even bugger then windows
[03:32] <flaccid> zorda: thats funny linux can open files and you can play games on it to
[03:32] <K`zan> zorda: That is patently BS...
[03:32] <Darkkish> K`zan: i kindof agree
[03:32] <MistaED> zorda: i've found linux opens a hell of a lot more files by default than windows does stock-standard
[03:32] <noir> I think there might be something wrong with my KDE. I'm trying to change resolutions but when switching between any resolution and my LCDs native resolution(1600x1200), there is no change in resolution. The rest of the resolutions work fine, and my xorg.conf looks to be correctly configured. Anyone  have any idea what could be wrong?
[03:32] <Darkkish> i get very few errors doing anything on windows
[03:32] <zorda> Can i play bf2?
[03:32] <flaccid> people like to compare bannanas with applese...
[03:32] <linuxbomb> file support hahaha its supports over 12 fs's that I know about
[03:32] <Darkkish> and i've gotten countless errors on this >.>
[03:32] <zorda> Can i play infantary?
[03:32] <flaccid> zorda: i don't know
[03:33] <flaccid> zorda: was it made for linux?
[03:33] <azmodean_> I like comparing apples to peanut butter
[03:33] <Darkkish> noir does your video card handle the resolutions and your moniter?
[03:33] <zorda> Look i can dl the repsitory for mp3 it says 2 files didnt get in
[03:33] <noir> yes
[03:33] <zorda> flaccid:  heck no
[03:33] <zorda> nothing is
[03:33] <zorda> linux is nothing but a hack box
[03:33] <flaccid> zorda: that is the vendor's problem
[03:34] <zorda> And i can do all the hacking i want to in windows
[03:34] <noir> i have a evga geforce 7900 gt ko super clocked.
[03:34] <K`zan>  ignore zorda
[03:34] <flaccid> zorda: thats funny. because windows can only be classifed as a hax box due to not following OS theory
[03:34] <flaccid> zorda: thats coz windows is insecure
[03:34] <zorda> Tell me how to dl the 2 files in the repsitorys
[03:34] <rikai> noir: i've got the same card. That DEFINITLY handle the resolution. :P
[03:34] <zorda> so i can get this mp3 thing working
[03:34] <nikkun> Anyone know how to change the KDM login screen in Edgy? I thought there used to be a place in the control center to change it but it is eluding me.
[03:34] <flaccid> zorda: you need to cite the error, we can't read minds
[03:34] <flaccid> !mp3 > zorda
[03:34] <astronaute> zorda:  try xmms
[03:34] <K`zan> zorda: When all else fails read the instructions.
[03:35] <flaccid> infact reading instructions is the most important thing
[03:35] <zorda> it says after hours of reading and typing crap in that 2 files in the repositors are corrupt or the server did not get them
[03:35] <LjL> nikkun: nah, you need a package
[03:35] <flaccid> zorda: pastebin the actual error, then we might be able to work something out
[03:35] <LjL> !info kdmtheme | nikkun
[03:35] <nikkun> LjL: ahh i was wondering about that do you know the name?
[03:35] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB
[03:36] <zorda> I dont have it
[03:36] <nikkun> thanks
[03:36] <zorda> Its gone
[03:36] <flaccid> zorda: if you don't have the error, how can you find a solution?
[03:36] <fildo> lol
[03:36] <zorda> The error came up 2 days ago
[03:36] <zorda> its gone
[03:36] <flaccid> if the error is gone, maybe the problem is gone
[03:36] <linuxbomb> how could one recreate the error?
[03:36] <zorda> no its not
[03:36] <K`zan> zorda: There ARE more than one repository...
[03:36] <Delph_nz> I would like to attempt to get dual montiors going on this box, i've read a bit of documentation, but before I start i was wondering if anyone had some trusty advice? I've got a 24" widescreen running 1920x1600 and would like to get my 17" to run 1280x1024 beside it please.
[03:36] <astronaute> I think zorda  is just too lazy and searching for a good reason to return on windows =)
[03:36] <flaccid> zorda: well fix it.
[03:37] <flaccid> !repos > zorda
[03:37] <zorda> I cant
[03:37] <fildo> well u must try obey one
[03:37] <K`zan> Yep, m$ will spoon feed him mediocrity for a price.
[03:37] <flaccid> lazy users generally don't work with linux too well
[03:37] <fildo> or install ms .. n ring tech support
[03:37] <K`zan> flaccid: It takes some work, but is just SO worth the effort not having to take what m$ deems you can have :-).
[03:37] <zorda> Delph_nz:  Dual moniters out of the box HA! i cant even get dual moniters now
[03:38] <flaccid> with 8 versions of vista and the ultimate business license @ $AU751 i don't find vista attractive
[03:38] <Delph_nz> thanks for the advice zorda
[03:38] <zorda> Vista
[03:38] <K`zan> zorda: Either make an effort or go back to m$ tit.
[03:38] <zorda> That is retarted
[03:38] <flaccid> kzan agreed
[03:38] <miyako> is there any sort of page that has feature requests for Kubuntu?
[03:38] <nikkun> Delph_nz: what gfx card?
[03:38] <fildo> lol
[03:38] <Delph_nz> Nvidia 7900GT with dual DVI
[03:39] <MistaED> flaccid: hehe, do you want the best video card w/o vista or a crap-pile one /w ultimate vista for the same price?
[03:39] <flaccid> vista on clean install just loaded uses 520mb of ram before launching 1 application. i would also have to buy double the ram i have to run it.
[03:39] <linuxbomb> I think that some channel op should just kick zorda out, but thats just my opinion because i'm sick of hearing this
[03:39] <astronaute> Delph_nz:  nvidia-xconfig --twinview
[03:39] <flaccid> MistaED: hehe yeah
[03:39] <nikkun> Delph_nz: you should be fine if you follow a guide to it for nvidia cards.  Nvidia are the easiest to get duals working
[03:40] <astronaute> Delph_nz: sudo nvidia-xconfig --twinview
[03:40] <zorda> Is KDE any easer then ubuntu?
[03:40] <bobbyyu> Well, I got the Sharing crap problem solved
[03:40] <Delph_nz> yeah i've tried once before, but only managed to get 1 desktop stretched over the 2 monitors, which looked horrid as they are different sized screns
[03:40] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  some package not installed ?
[03:40] <bobbyyu> But now I'm on Dapper instead of Edgy
[03:40] <bobbyyu> Yeah
[03:40] <flaccid> zorda: no
[03:40] <bobbyyu> Samba
[03:40] <bobbyyu> I'm an idiot
[03:40] <K`zan> zorda: KDE is just a window manager app.
[03:40] <bobbyyu> Now I have a problem.
[03:40] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  i was almost sure =)
[03:40] <zorda> Its just grapics...
[03:40] <juaaaa> hello i am
[03:41] <nikkun> Delph_nz: in the System Settings you can goto the graphics section i believe it has layouts there for it
[03:41] <bobbyyu> I can't share my mounted shares (from Windows)
[03:41] <juaaaa> 9 years old i am aargentinian
[03:41] <K`zan> zorda:  Unlike m$ you got more than one with linux and can choose what you like best.
[03:41] <zorda> you kidding me right?
[03:41] <juaaaa> i go
[03:41] <juaaaa> caca
[03:41] <Delphinus> ok dont that i'll reboot x and see what happens
[03:41] <juaaaa> para
[03:41] <astronaute> Delph_nz:  you can make 2 separate desktops
[03:41] <Delphinus> done*
[03:41] <juaaaa> aprender ingles
[03:41] <Darkkish> well i have cedega set up exactly how i want ut
[03:41] <juaaaa> si
[03:41] <Darkkish> but i need som ehelp
[03:41] <flaccid> zorda: is there anything we can actually help you with?
[03:41] <zorda> Yea
[03:42] <flaccid> zorda: what is it
[03:42] <K`zan> zorda: if you need help, help people help you or just go to #bitchalot and have fun.
[03:42] <zorda> Tell me that KDE is more then just a set of grapics on udntu
[03:42] <zorda> ubunto
[03:42] <K`zan> zorda: KDE is just a window manager app.
[03:42] <flaccid> zorda: kde is more than just a set of graphics on udntu
[03:42] <juaaaa> astronaute what would youlike watermelon o melon
[03:42] <MistaED> zorda: are you doing it from add/remove applications? i typed in mp3 from there and there's a really easy way to simply tick mp3 support and ubuntu does the rest
[03:42] <bobbyyu> It says my stuff is shareable, but I can't access them when I'm on a separate computer
[03:42] <nikkun> zorda: KDE is an interely sepereate DE then GNOME which Ubuntu uses
[03:42] <astronaute> juaaaa:  apple
[03:42] <K`zan> zorda: a VERY powerful and feature laden window manager :-).
[03:43] <bobbyyu> How can I make my mounts writable?
[03:43] <juaaaa> astronaute ihave got 9 years old
[03:43] <flaccid> bobbyyu > fat
[03:43] <flaccid> bobbyyu: look at the masks on that webpage
[03:43] <astronaute> juaaaa:  im 7
[03:43] <zorda> Ok i need some help
[03:43] <juaaaa> astronaute vine para aprender english
[03:43] <zorda> Some thing real
[03:43] <bobbyyu> What's FAT? Fat 32?
[03:43] <azmodean_> KDE also provides an application framework, correct?
[03:44] <astronaute> bobbyyu:  its a filesystem
[03:44] <nikkun> bobbyyu: are you useing NTFS or FAT?
[03:44] <bobbyyu> FAT
[03:44] <flaccid> bobbyyu: its a filesystem. the same mask options apply to any filesystem
[03:44] <astronaute> NTFS is not secure to write
[03:44] <zorda> How do i get rid of the dualboot in to linux?
[03:44] <juaaaa> astronaute guauuuuuuu     im the unique on this chat
[03:44] <Darkkish> FAT is not FAT32
[03:44] <Darkkish> they're different
[03:44] <Darkkish> idk how i just know they are
[03:44] <Delph_nz> oh hell, the display module could not be loaded
[03:44] <bobbyyu> My filesystem is Fat32
[03:44] <flaccid> zorda: remove grub
[03:44] <azmodean_> zorda: do what you always do when you have problems as a windows user, reinstall
[03:44] <zorda> I cant just format the dirve becouse it put a dualboot on my master with windows
[03:44] <juaaaa> hello
[03:44] <bobbyyu> I don't use FAT
[03:44] <zorda> No
[03:44] <nikkun> Darkkish: FAT may mean FAT16 if that what your thinking..
[03:45] <juaaaa> i can speak you
[03:45] <juaaaa> g
[03:45] <juaaaa> g
[03:45] <rikai> astronaute: ntfs is relatively secure with fuse... at least in my experience.
[03:45] <juaaaa> g
[03:45] <juaaaa> g
[03:45] <juaaaa> g
[03:45] <juaaaa> g
[03:45] <Darkkish> nikkun: yeah thats right
[03:45] <dude> hello guys...
[03:45] <MistaED> zorda: there's a way to make it boot into windows by default if you wish, with a 10 second or less window period to change between windows and linux
[03:45] <Delph_nz> within system settings... The diagnotics is [nothing] 
[03:45] <zorda> NO
[03:45] <zorda> HOW do i get rid of that file on my master!
[03:45] <zorda> SO i can format this HD!
[03:45] <astronaute> rikai:  not 100% sure, you can loose all data =)
[03:46] <flaccid> zorda: i'm not going to assist you in removing linux
[03:46] <rikai> astronaute: with fuse?
[03:46] <linuxbomb> zorda is english your native language?
[03:46] <MistaED> zorda: i dunno, windows isn't very good at restoring the MBR but boot your windows xp cd and type "FIXMBR" in the recovery console
[03:46] <nikkun> zorda: i believe microsoft has a page on how to remove linux please look there
[03:46] <zorda> See
[03:46] <flaccid> MistaED: damn should have let him asked in ##windows for that
[03:46] <nikkun> yah
[03:46] <azmodean_> zorda: but seriously, you should be able to just format the linux partition and reclaim it, I don't think the bootloader is going to cause you any problems
[03:46] <astronaute> rikai:  i dont know if fuse can make it safe 100%
[03:46] <bobbyyu> I tried to change the permissions myself, but it doesn't work
[03:46] <zorda> It did
[03:47] <flaccid> azmodean_: won't help if grub is in mbr
[03:47] <MistaED> flaccid: it doesn't work anyway
[03:47] <zorda> It said GRUB cannot laod please restart
[03:47] <nikkun> bobbyyu: can you write while root?
[03:47] <flaccid> MistaED: what doesn't work
[03:47] <azmodean_> I'm saying just to leave grub there
[03:47] <bobbyyu> How?
[03:47] <azmodean_> aaah, you have a problem then
[03:47] <dbglt> when I plug my ipod in, it is not automounted. It is found in dmesg and connected, but the automount in kde does not work. What should I check?
[03:47] <MistaED> flaccid: FIXMBR, didn't work for me on a computer
[03:47] <zorda> Please assist me in removing linux someone
[03:47] <dbglt> (it used to work in the past)
[03:47] <Delph_nz> did for me
[03:47] <flaccid> zorda: thats because you removed grub/linux but grub is still in the MBR. see what happens when you don't read instructions...
[03:47] <nikkun> bobbyyu: can you move stuff using sudo?
[03:47] <flaccid> MistaED: it works
[03:47] <bobbyyu> Not graphically
[03:48] <nikkun> bobbyyu: i know but can you in console?
[03:48] <astronaute> zorda:  boot windows CD and recreate partitions
[03:48] <bobbyyu> What would you like me to move?
[03:48] <linuxbomb> zorda sudo rm -rf /
[03:48] <astronaute> ahaha
[03:48] <flaccid> astronaute: that won't help if grub is in the mbr still
[03:48] <zorda> liar
[03:49] <zorda> I can not boot a cd with this linux
[03:49] <flaccid> linuxbomb: i can't get into linux
[03:49] <nikkun> bobbyyu: im just asking if you can write to it as root even
[03:49] <zorda> With windows i could
[03:49] <zorda> Thats how i got it
[03:49] <zorda> And i want to keep window
[03:49] <zorda> I dont have a back up
[03:49] <flaccid> zorda: for windows help, visit ##windows
[03:49] <astronaute> then you have to use linux for your entire life zorda  !!!!!!
[03:50] <milo75> hey all. just installed kubuntu for the first time. got tired of the vista beta
[03:50] <flaccid> we don't support windows here
[03:50] <astronaute> :ppp
[03:50] <milo75> which version of gaim 2.0 do I use for kubuntu
[03:50] <milo75> :p
[03:50] <flaccid> milo75: nice one milo75
[03:50] <astronaute> flaccid:  \o/
[03:50] <linuxbomb> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[03:50] <Blacken> Question - can you replace the usplash graphic?
[03:51] <astronaute> does someone use DeKorator ???
[03:51] <rikai> Blacken: yes.
[03:51] <bobbyyu> I can't chmod while in sudo mode
[03:51] <K`zan> Sadly, I do remember the frustrations of moving from m$hit to linux but there is nothing you can do for someone going through that other than let them get smart and make the effort or let them go back to m$crap...
[03:52] <SHRIKEE> question, regarding Kontact/Kmail
[03:52] <SHRIKEE> anyone?
[03:52] <bobbyyu> if that's what you mean, Nikkun
[03:52] <Kiongku> just dual boot..
[03:52] <rikai> Blacken: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[03:52] <Kiongku> pfft
[03:52] <Blacken> rikai: Any hints on where to go? :p
[03:52] <astronaute> We learn whole life, and we still die dumb =)
[03:52] <flaccid> nothing is for free. in this case its not a cost but you have to pay time to convert to linux. its called learning, and learning is a positive thing
[03:52] <K`zan> SHRIKEE: Try posting the question...
[03:52] <Blacken> rikai: Thank you.
[03:53] <SHRIKEE> link sent to me in an email, i want them opened in firefox instead of konqueror, i cannot find an option to set such behaviour... anyone knows how?
[03:53] <K`zan> flaccid: Not sure sure that is considered true in US "educational" institutions...
[03:53] <astronaute> SHRIKEE:  maybe you want to use Thunderbird instead ?
[03:53] <SHRIKEE> i dont want thunderbird  :)
[03:53] <astronaute> ^
[03:53] <flaccid> K`zan: US has nothing to do with it
[03:54] <azmodean_> zorda: my professional advice would be to recover your files (I generally use a linux live cd and a usb hard drive to do this) and reinstall windows
[03:54] <K`zan> SHRIKEE: Root through the setup stuff in konqueror, IIRC it is in there someplace.
[03:54] <Delphinus> I now cannot get into display settings... getting the following error:
[03:54] <Delphinus> The module Display could not be loaded.
[03:54] <Delphinus> The diagnostics is:
[03:54] <Delphinus> Possible reasons:
[03:54] <Delphinus> An error occured during your last KDE upgrade, leaving an orphaned module.
[03:54] <Delphinus> You have old third party modules laying around.
[03:54] <Delphinus> Check these points carefully and try to remove the module mentioned in the error message. If this fails, consider contacting your distributor or packager.
[03:54] <bobbyyu> I can't change permissions while in root mode
[03:54] <SHRIKEE> in konqueror?
[03:54] <K`zan> flaccid: Everyone expects a free lunch now?  Sigh...
[03:54] <azmodean_> (seriously, I do it at work all the time and it's the fastest way to do it)
[03:54] <SHRIKEE> *looks*
[03:54] <Darkkish> hey
[03:55] <K`zan> SHRIKEE: Under file associations, it has been a LONG time since I did that.  I wanted it to direct to firefox rather than konqueror :-)
[03:55] <SHRIKEE> most things open in firefox
[03:55] <flaccid> file associations are in konqueror configuration
[03:55] <SHRIKEE> juist not the links i click in Kmail
[03:55] <K`zan> SHRIKEE: LOL, I had to change it from konq :-).
[03:56] <SHRIKEE> ... that doesnt make sense actually
[03:56] <K`zan> SHRIKEE: IIRC it is under file associations in konqueror, and no it doesn't make sense...
[03:56] <rikai> Blacken: np
[03:56] <SHRIKEE> *looks*
[03:57] <flaccid> it does make sense
[03:57] <flaccid> konqueror being the kde file manager and all
[03:57] <bobbyyu> This is my problem: I can't share anything from Windows mounts...
[03:57] <SHRIKEE> and file associations it was
[03:57] <SHRIKEE> wicked
[03:57] <SHRIKEE> :D
[03:57] <bobbyyu> Just so you're not clear
[03:57] <K`zan> SHRIKEE: settings-Configure konqueror->file associations and type in html...  Fix wherever appropriate.
[03:58] <flaccid> bobbyyu: did you read the webpage?
[03:58] <SHRIKEE> youre right, flaccid, but such option is expected at Kmail to set
[03:58] <SHRIKEE> like "which browser to use, mark this"
[03:58] <bobbyyu> What web page?
[03:58] <SHRIKEE> orsomething
[03:58] <flaccid> i don't see how
[03:58] <SHRIKEE> i do
[03:58] <flaccid> !samba
[03:58] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:58] <K`zan> SHRIKEE: That would make sense :-)
[03:58] <SHRIKEE> yes
[03:58] <SHRIKEE> anyway, thanks :D
[03:58] <flaccid> ^^ that one bobbyyu which i showed you before
[03:58] <astronaute> hello =)
[03:58] <SHRIKEE> oh another thing i noticed, i think its a bug in kubuntu
[03:58] <flaccid> i have to go out
[03:58] <flaccid> bbl
[03:59] <SHRIKEE> when i disable the energy star thing to turn of my screen after 30 mintes
[03:59] <SHRIKEE> that option is not saved
[03:59] <K`zan> SHRIKEE: KDE is all integrated and sometimes it doesn't make sense...
[03:59] <SHRIKEE> indeed K`zan
[04:00] <lascar> so how does a kubuntu user downgrade releases?
[04:00] <SHRIKEE> uninstall, and install the older version?
[04:00] <Darkkish> how do i disable arts?
[04:00] <SHRIKEE> ...
[04:00] <lascar> yeah, WITHOUT uninstalling
[04:00] <lascar> ?
[04:01] <SHRIKEE> dunno
[04:01] <lascar> Darkkish: you'll have to remove arts
[04:01] <SHRIKEE> why without uninstalling
[04:01] <lascar> does it matter why though?
[04:01] <SHRIKEE> isnt arts the sound system?
[04:01] <lascar> i've got this nagging feeling that edgy has bugs
[04:02] <lascar> all the wrong ones
[04:02] <SHRIKEE> well lascar maybe its because yo uwant to keep something from the newer version, otherwise i see no reason not to uninstall
[04:02] <SHRIKEE> if you want to keep something yhou maybe can just save it for the time being,
[04:02] <SHRIKEE> :)
[04:02] <Darkkish> will removing arts disable all sounds?
[04:02] <zorda> Well i will ask one more time is there a easer linux system for me to get started on?
[04:02] <lascar> shrikee: i don't want to keep something so much as I want to revert to the way things were before
[04:03] <SHRIKEE> zorda, which linux is easy depends on what you udnerstand of it
[04:03] <lascar> zorda: probably not
[04:03] <zorda> I need a easy linux
[04:03] <SHRIKEE> so far i think this is the easier one, for me
[04:03] <lascar> suse has great hardware detection
[04:03] <zorda> It is ok then
[04:03] <lascar> but is still too much of a bitch to install
[04:03] <Linux_Galore> is there an update option on the kubuntu cd I cant seem to find one
[04:03] <zorda> Well thansk all
[04:03] <morphish> zorda: (k)ubuntu is pretty much as easy as it's gonna get
[04:03] <Ahmuck> zorda: i think kubuntu works well
[04:03] <lascar> agreed.
[04:03] <morphish> Ahmuck: we were too slow
[04:04] <lascar> but i'm having azureus problems all of a sudden..
[04:04] <SHRIKEE> what kinda problems, lascar
[04:04] <SHRIKEE> maybe its fixable
[04:04] <lascar> shrikee: i've got log, where should i post it?
[04:05] <SHRIKEE> !pastebin
[04:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:05] <lascar> thanx
[04:05] <SHRIKEE> and give us the url to your paste offcoarse ;)
[04:06] <lascar> indeed.  You can find it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28996/
[04:06] <ironfroggy> is artsd connected to over sockets?
[04:06] <SHRIKEE> hold on
[04:07] <SHRIKEE> what exactly were you doing?
[04:07] <SHRIKEE> using azureus?
[04:07] <Darkkish> hey i need help
[04:08] <Darkkish> running an already installed program in cedega
[04:08] <lascar> loading azureus
[04:08] <Darkkish> one that i didn't install via cedega
[04:08] <lascar> the splash screen will show up
[04:08] <lascar> and then operations break
[04:08] <SHRIKEE> hmm
[04:08] <lascar> i ran it under Konsole to find the error
[04:08] <lascar> thus the log file
[04:08] <SHRIKEE> the error being your paste?
[04:08] <lascar> indeed
[04:09] <ironfroggy> particularly, is it possible to use an artsd running on another box?
[04:09] <lascar> "problematic frame?"
[04:09] <lascar> 'twould be helpful to know java
[04:09] <K`zan> java is EVIL ;-)
[04:09] <ironfroggy> not evil, just depressingly overweight.
[04:10] <SHRIKEE> java is evil indeed
[04:10] <K`zan> LOL
[04:10] <azmodean_> see you, trying out that img based install
[04:10] <SHRIKEE> the log is a load of gibberish to me
[04:10] <SHRIKEE> but it seems to tell me this
[04:10] <SHRIKEE> 007. # Problematic frame:
[04:10] <SHRIKEE> 008. # C  [libglibjni-0.4.so+0x8d02] 
[04:10] <SHRIKEE> no idea what that is, but it might be a package
[04:10] <lascar> i'm guessing definitely
[04:10] <Darkkish> i'm learning java
[04:11] <SHRIKEE> you referred to downgrading, so i guess it malfunctions after you upgraded ;)
[04:11] <lascar> but it's not showing up in synaptic
[04:11] <SHRIKEE> maybe this needs upgrading
[04:11] <SHRIKEE> hmm
[04:11] <lascar> no, it actually worked for a bit
[04:11] <lascar> that's possible
[04:11] <lascar> there were new packages that are being kept back
[04:11] <Delph_nz> w00t dual monitors all go now, thanks for help everyone :D :D
[04:11] <lascar> under development still?
[04:11] <SHRIKEE> hmm, well i cant tell you whats wrong :( sorry
[04:12] <lascar> ::shrugs:: you tried
[04:12] <SHRIKEE> heh
[04:13] <ruisu> hey :) people
[04:13] <lascar> Shrikee: you wouldn't happen to have any kept back packages, would you?
[04:13] <ruisu> im now running 6.10 :D
[04:13] <SHRIKEE> kept back packages?
[04:13] <Linux_Galore> normally you do gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"  , is it the same in kubuntu for upgrades
[04:13] <lascar> shrikee: you running edgy?
[04:13] <Linux_Galore> it doesnt seem to work
[04:14] <SHRIKEE> dapper
[04:14] <lascar> ah.
[04:14] <lascar> (smart move)
[04:14] <lascar> :(
[04:14] <ruisu> im haveing a problem: i have an NVidia chipset motherboard, and an ATI video card
[04:14] <nikkun> Linux_Galore: i think you just set it up like a normal cd repo
[04:14] <SHRIKEE> heh
[04:14] <ruisu> 'v been selecting either one in the installer, but if i select one, the other uninstalls, what can i do?
[04:14] <lascar> ruisu: whatever could have possessed you to buy an ATI card?
[04:15] <ruisu> 256mb for 80 bucks?
[04:15] <lascar> nvidia chipset?
[04:15] <Darkkish> hey
[04:15] <Darkkish> umm
[04:15] <Darkkish> ok i need to get OSS working >.>
[04:15] <ruisu> yep, nvidia nforce2
[04:15] <rikai> ruisu: you dont need to install the nvidia drivers. The nvidia drivers are for only if you've got an nvidia GRAPHICS card.
[04:15] <noir> ruisu just curious but what ati card did you get?
[04:15] <nikkun> ruisu: what model ati card
[04:16] <ruisu> radeon 9950 something like that
[04:16] <rikai> 9850 :P
[04:16] <lascar> ::sighs:: and i'm a torrent whore to boot...
[04:16] <ruisu> umm, no there was no 8
[04:16] <SHRIKEE> lascar, why not use ktorrent
[04:16] <lascar> i don't like the idea of waiting
[04:16] <SHRIKEE> i used it last week
[04:16] <SHRIKEE> its fine :)
[04:16] <ruisu> just 9s 5 and a cero
[04:16] <lascar> didn't like the feel of it
[04:16] <SHRIKEE> ah
[04:16] <lascar> shrikee
[04:16] <lascar> yep
[04:16] <lascar> however
[04:17] <lascar> i could tighten the belt until the powers that be finish the updates
[04:17] <rikai> ruisu: the nforce chipset is alraedy supported ina  default ubuntu installation, so just follow the ati driver installation guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:17] <SHRIKEE> i usually download stuff on my windows pc but this jus so happened to be better on my laptop (kubuntu) and i quite liked it
[04:17] <lascar> (but why release if you're not FULLY finished?)
[04:17] <SHRIKEE> to test, lascar
[04:17] <SHRIKEE> beta releases
[04:17] <ruisu> ok, thanks :)
[04:17] <nikkun> ruisu: you maybe will have problems with the fglrx driver since most 9500+ ati cards get messed up for reasons unknown
[04:18] <lascar> yeah, but i'd be more inclined to distribute betas to those with some coding backgrounds
[04:18] <SHRIKEE> true
[04:18] <rikai> ruisu: no problem.
[04:18] <SHRIKEE> but alot dont do that lascar
[04:18] <lascar> too true ;)
[04:18] <rikai> nikkun: does that incude the x series?
[04:18] <lascar> i'll give ktorrent another spin
[04:18] <ruisu> nikkun: um, no, its fine, last kubuntu worke at perfection with the fglrx-config
[04:19] <nikkun> rikai: the x series is where a lot of problems existed
[04:19] <noir> ati in genral has alot of problems.
[04:19] <nikkun> though this was dapper i think they got most of it fixed by edgy though i havent tried my ati comp since hte messa bug killed it
[04:19] <rikai> nikkun: ah
[04:20] <intelikey>  hte is that over compensation for teh ?
[04:21] <rikai> nikkun: the ati srivers being in such a sad state is 1/2 the reason i went for my evga(nvidia) 7900GT KO SC ;)
[04:22] <nikkun> rikai: i have stated many times in forums i will never buy another ATI card after my laptop haveing so many bugs when it comes to graphics
[04:22] <lascar> shrikee: ktorrent will do indefinitely.  Thanx for everything
[04:22] <rikai> nikkun: i'll buy anoter ati card.... but not ontil they get their drivers in shape.
[04:22] <SHRIKEE> :) no
[04:22] <SHRIKEE> np
[04:23] <nikkun> rikai: i dont think they will though with AMD buying them
[04:23] <rikai> nikkun: actually, i've got the exact opposite guess on that. That they're more likey to with AMD buying them.
[04:24] <nikkun> rikai: i hope your right but i havnt seen anything too nice come out of AMD recently
[04:24] <ruisu> ok, goodbye
[04:24] <intelikey> rikai everyone knows intel is the only one that can make drivers...
[04:24] <slime> where's the place to config hot key to maximize window?
[04:24] <nikkun> intel and nvidia
[04:24] <rikai> intelikey: ...rigggghhht.
[04:24] <nikkun> under accessabilty i believe
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[04:25] <nikkun> im curius who here uses konqueror and who uses firefox?
[04:25] <intelikey> !i
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <soulrider> i use Opera
[04:26] <intelikey> stupid bot.   don't answer my shortened "not I" statement.....  pfft
[04:28] <intelikey> for the bots sake i'll try to remember to answer with  ! me  next time....
[04:28] <Kiongku> !me
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <Darkkish> h3y
[04:30] <Darkkish> er
[04:30] <Darkkish> hey
[04:30] <Darkkish> does anyone know how to play a game in cedega that wasn't installed in cedega?
[04:30] <ruisu> nope
[04:30] <intelikey> nikkun but as a matter of choise "that's all a poll is about anyway" i prefer konq over ff hands down.
[04:31] <ruisu> nikkun: im very thankful, now the ati configuration does work completly :)
[04:34] <Linux_Galore> whats replaces the plf repositories now
[04:34] <Darkkish> i need help running a game in cedega
[04:35] <Darkkish> it has hot nude females in it and if i can play it i will send you some print screens
[04:35] <Linux_Galore> Darkkish: go to the cedega channel
[04:35] <intelikey> then i certenly wont try to help.
[04:36] <Linux_Galore> so nothing replaces the plf repo's for ubuntu ??
[04:36] <Darkkish> well it got peoples attention
[04:36] <Brydenn33> ok who wants to help me out with some wireless card issues?
[04:36] <intelikey> Linux_Galore plf
[04:36] <Darkkish> there really are no nude females
[04:36] <Darkkish> its world of warcrafty
[04:36] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: plf dont do a ubuntu repo anymore
[04:37] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: plf do all the weird codecs etc
[04:37] <Hawkwind> Linux_Galore: Nothing is replacing PLF for the moment unless someone steps up and takes over the project
[04:37] <intelikey> Linux_Galore did as of dapper  i don't plan on ever seeing edgy.
[04:38] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: so no alternate site for ubuntu codecs, bummer
[04:38] <intelikey> but one could probably use the codecs package from the dapper repo on edgy
[04:38] <Jucato> which codecs?
[04:38] <Linux_Galore> win32 etc
[04:39] <intelikey> Jucato !
[04:39] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: the one on the wiki (.deb) works fine I think
[04:39] <Brydenn33> common, anyone know much about wireless cards/networks?
[04:39] <Jucato> hi intelikey!
[04:39] <Darkkish> nobody will talk to me in cedega
[04:39] <intelikey> how is ya Jucato ?
[04:39] <Jucato> intelikey: doing fine. very fine (but sleepy)
[04:40] <intelikey> yeah it's earily there....
[04:40] <Linux_Galore> Brydenn33: have you tried www.google.com/linux  yet and use your card model and the term ubuntu
[04:40] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/
[04:40] <Brydenn33> Linux_Galore: i know my card is linux compatible
[04:40] <Brydenn33> i even found a driver for it
[04:41] <Brydenn33> i'm just new to all that stuff
[04:41] <ruisu> umm, so another cuestion, how do i turn DRI?
[04:41] <Linux_Galore> Brydenn33: so no you havent done the first step yet
[04:41] <intelikey> Darkkish i started to say it's because "your head's empty, your breath stinks, and your mama dresses you funny"  but desided that might insult you.     so i wont say it.  :)
[04:41] <Brydenn33> Linux_Galore: dont talk to me like i'm a fuckn kid
[04:41] <Linux_Galore> Brydenn33: do the first step and then come back when you are stuck on a specific issue
[04:42] <Brydenn33> i did ya moron
[04:42] <Hawkwind> !language
[04:42] <Brydenn33> how do you think i found the driver?
[04:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:42] <Brydenn33> guessed the URL?
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> Brydenn33: and at what part are you stuck
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> Brydenn33: we cant read your mind
[04:42] <Brydenn33> well i'd first like to know if i even have to bother with that stuff
[04:42] <muhammed> where can i see the different channels on this server?
[04:42] <Brydenn33> like is my card already installed?
[04:42] <Brydenn33> how do i tell?
[04:43] <Brydenn33> cuz i have my cable connection already. but i'd like to be able to jump onto some local networks and WiFi
[04:43] <ruisu> i think you should use zero conf..not?
[04:44] <intelikey> !wifi | Brydenn33
[04:44] <ubotu> Brydenn33: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:44] <Brydenn33> oh, nice. thanks intelikey
[04:45] <Brydenn33> i'll read that really quick
[04:45] <intelikey> Brydenn33 i dont' have any wifi so i really don't know if that will help you or not.   just doing what i can....
[04:46] <Brydenn33> ya, thanks
[04:46] <Brydenn33> some try to help. others just talk smack
[04:46] <Brydenn33> lol ya but i mean the kinda smack that doesnt help people. like they think you're an idiot or something
[04:46] <Brydenn33> when i help people i'm not a cock
[04:47] <intelikey> :)
[04:47] <Brydenn33> <coughs... Linux_Galore>
[04:47] <Brydenn33> hehe
[04:47] <Hawkwind> Brydenn33: That's enough
[04:47] <ruisu> ok, so, -- off topic-- nobody knows how to activate direct rendering?
[04:47] <Brydenn33> haha
[04:47] <Brydenn33> np Hawkwind
[04:47] <Hawkwind> Thank you
[04:47] <Brydenn33> ok so intelikey helped me a little i think
[04:48] <Hawkwind> ruisu: Have you installed the drivers for your video card ?
[04:48] <Brydenn33> i went to network settings and see that my wireless network card is working
[04:48] <intelikey> !nv | ruisu
[04:48] <ubotu> ruisu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:49] <intelikey> Brydenn33 i'm network illiterate.   i can call bot nodes for you but that's about it.
[04:49] <intelikey> now bash on the other hand.......
[04:49] <Brydenn33> lol hey whatever works man ;)
[04:50] <TheSJB> can someone tell me what is missing here? http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/227253
[04:50] <Hawkwind> TheSJB: kernel-headers
[04:51] <intelikey> and possably build-essential also
[04:51] <Kiongku> yo Hawkwind
[04:52] <muhammed> where can i chance the settings that konquerer always start to browse if i drop a link
[04:52] <muhammed> ??
[04:53] <lainproliant> hi everyone :)
[04:53] <lainproliant> I have a question in context of KDE Input actions
[04:54] <lainproliant> I have a program (m300bl, written to change my Armada M300's brightness depending upon commandline parameters) that i want to map to SHIFT+CTRL+{F10,F9}
[04:54] <lainproliant> but m300bl needs root in order to perform the low level system calls it has to do
[04:54] <intelikey> i play a game from time to time.  chess or this old c64 game ported to dos ran in dosemu 'red storm rising'  or even kspace duel  if the kids are here....     anyone  recommend another good game that requires little to no graphics but is complex enough to interest a chess player ?
[04:55] <lainproliant> how can i give it temporary root?  sudo seems not to work
[04:55] <intelikey> sudo
[04:55] <lainproliant> it seems not to work though
[04:55] <nikkun> lainproliant: su - i bleive
[04:55] <intelikey> kdesu
[04:56] <lainproliant> hmm
[04:56] <lainproliant> is there any alternative that wouldn't prompt me for a password each time?
[04:56] <intelikey> kdesu is kde's way of using sudo
[04:56] <lainproliant> hmm
[04:56] <nikkun> it works for programs that oppen an xwindow
[04:56] <lainproliant> agreed, but this is a very simple C program
[04:56] <intelikey> lainproliant you don't need an alternative just setup the /etc/sudoers to do that passwordlessly
[04:57] <lainproliant> oh okies
[04:57] <intelikey> lainproliant also you could just make the app suid
[04:57] <lainproliant> okies i will try both of those examples ^_^
[04:57] <TheSJB> there are only 2.4.27-2-386 kernel-headers but i have the kernel 2.6.15-27-386, is it okay?
[04:58] <intelikey> but then anyone could run it from anywhere....  (assuming access)
[04:58] <nikkun> um no
[04:58] <nikkun> there are kernel headers
[04:58] <nikkun> sudo apt-get isntall linux-386-header i believe
[04:58] <bobbyyu> I'm setting up fstab to share a mount point. This is what I have. Yet the shell tells me there is an error.
[04:58] <Jucato> linux-header-xxx
[04:58] <bobbyyu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28999/
[04:58] <intelikey> TheSJB you don't have kernel-2.6*    you have linux-2.6*   look for   linux-headers-*
[04:59] <TheSJB> okay ;-)
[04:59] <TheSJB> <- nap
[04:59] <nikkun> can you mount a sambaFS at boot?
[05:00] <intelikey> TheSJB nomanclature change from 2.4 to 2.6 linux kernels
[05:00] <bobbyyu> Nikkun are you addressing me?
[05:00] <nikkun> no im adressing anyone
[05:00] <shadowr3d> hawkwind
[05:00] <nikkun> bobbyyu: i dont think you can mount samba in fstab unless samba is runing
[05:00] <shadowr3d> hello
[05:01] <bobbyyu> How do I run Samba?
[05:01] <nikkun> well can you mount it when your in KDE?
[05:01] <bobbyyu> I've yet to try
[05:01] <nikkun> you should try there first
[05:02] <shadowr3d> #wine
[05:02] <bobbyyu> That is why I put the paste line
[05:02] <intelikey> bobbyyu samba requires  //
[05:02] <bobbyyu> I know. That's what I added
[05:03] <bobbyyu> (Refer to the paste link)
[05:03] <bobbyyu> Oh shit. My bad
[05:03] <softmaster> where can i get good repositories for edgy?
[05:03] <bobbyyu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29001/
[05:03] <bobbyyu> There, that should do it
[05:04] <nikkun> softmaster: uncomment the extra repos in sources.list
[05:04] <intelikey> also all the extra " are useless.  just quote the full path.  "//this is/where it/lives"
[05:04] <softmaster> my problem is that i upgrafef from dapper to edgy
[05:05] <softmaster> * upgraded
[05:05] <softmaster> and my repos is for dapper
[05:05] <nikkun> softmaster: are you missing base repos?
[05:05] <softmaster> no i had problems installing mp3 support for amarok
[05:05] <bobbyyu> intelikey: you mean the share name or the media name?
[05:06] <nikkun> softmaster: one sec
[05:06] <softmaster> what is base repos
[05:06] <intelikey> bobbyyu both,  might also want to add "noauto" to the options.
[05:06] <softmaster> is it different from dapper
[05:06] <bobbyyu> as in -noauto at the end of the line?
[05:07] <Jucato> softmaster: to be able to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy, you had to modify your sources.list/repositories from dapper to edgy
[05:07] <nikkun> softmaster: try these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29002/
[05:07] <intelikey> no with the uid=1000,noauto,
[05:07] <bobbyyu> Why?
[05:08] <intelikey> prevent error messages on boot and possably long boot time if the share is not mountable when the mount -a call is made.
[05:10] <shadowr3d_> ubotu sex
[05:10] <shadowr3d_> aww man
[05:10] <shadowr3d_> sorry
[05:10] <shadowr3d_> that was my sister
[05:10] <shadowr3d_> ubotu
[05:10] <shadowr3d_> how do u use that bot
[05:10] <shadowr3d_> i forgot
[05:10] <shadowr3d_> uboutu
[05:10] <Jucato> shadowr3d_: you can PM it
[05:10] <intelikey> ssshhh don't tell
[05:11] <softmaster> ok
[05:11] <softmaster> thanks
[05:11] <Jucato> intelikey: better than flooding here :)
[05:12] <intelikey> yeah  i was hopping that would become old had really quick and he'd give up.
[05:12] <intelikey> :)
[05:12] <muahhahah> hahaha
[05:12] <muahhahah> blah blah blah
[05:13] <bobbyyu> So what are your recommendations?
[05:13] <muahhahah> linux is a piece of garbage
[05:13] <Jucato> muahhahah: please don't spam/flood. thanks
[05:13] <bobbyyu> The shell still says that line is still bad
[05:13] <intelikey> is changing the nick supposed to hid you ?
[05:13] <intelikey> -:- shadowr3d_ is now known as muahhahah
 hahaha
[05:13] <muahhahah> huh
[05:13] <muahhahah> no
[05:13] <intelikey> just wondered.
[05:13] <Kiongku> !rsync
[05:13] <ubotu> rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.8-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 472 kB
[05:13] <muahhahah> im eating but my sister is trying to get me kicked out of this server
[05:14] <muahhahah> im not doing it
[05:14] <esaym> i love linux
[05:14] <Tuxutug> salut
[05:14] <intelikey> so ruin her day/night and just /exit
[05:14] <muahhahah> esaym linux sucks
[05:14] <muahhahah> i will
[05:14] <intelikey> she'll hate that.
[05:14] <muahhahah> hahaha
[05:14] <muahhahah> yeah
[05:14] <muahhahah> ok
[05:14] <muahhahah> bye bye
[05:15] <muahhahah> fds
[05:15] <muahhahah> fds
[05:15] <muahhahah> fds
[05:15] <muahhahah> fds
[05:15] <muahhahah> fds
[05:15] <muahhahah> fds
[05:15] <esaym> wow
[05:16] <intelikey> esaym   wow ?
[05:16] <intelikey> first time meeting a real troll ?
[05:16] <[GuS] > buenas..
[05:17] <esaym> wow at muahhahah
[05:18] <esaym> also, i know this is noob as hell but intelikey how did you make that response like that?
[05:18] <intelikey> your irc client watches for your nick
[05:18] <intelikey> esaym
[05:18] <intelikey> see
[05:18] <Jucato> ??
[05:19] <bobbyyu> So can someone please help?
[05:19] <intelikey> Jucato it's a guess but a very well educated one.
[05:19] <esaym> hmm, i guess. i never caught it before i guess
[05:19] <esaym> thanks anyway ;)
[05:20] <intelikey> esaym np
[05:21] <intelikey> guess as to what exactly "how did you make that response like that?"  was refering too    not guess as to the answer i gave.
[05:22] <intelikey> bobbyyu where are you now?  what error are you getting ?
[05:22] <redtricycle> what's the console command to move to trash?
[05:22] <bobbyyu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29001/
[05:22] <bobbyyu> Line 13 is bad
[05:22] <bobbyyu> paste mistake
[05:23] <intelikey> redtricycle mv
[05:23] <bobbyyu> It says Line 13 is bad
[05:23] <intelikey> bobbyyu k
[05:23] <bobbyyu> Which is the line I showed you
[05:23] <redtricycle> Oh, I just gotta move it to the trash folder then...
[05:23] <Jucato> redtricycle: once you delete (rm) a file in the command line, it's gone forever...
[05:23] <redtricycle> thanks intelikey
[05:24] <intelikey> bobbyyu   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29001/   only has one line.
[05:24] <intelikey> redtricycle yes.  welcome.
[05:24] <bobbyyu> So that's not good? I need to spread it over a few lines more?
[05:25] <intelikey> bobbyyu no i might have missread "<bobbyyu> Line 13 is bad"  was expecting a pastebin with 13+ lines
[05:26] <intelikey> bobbyyu is it just me or is the device/mountpoint in backwards order in your fstab line ???
[05:27] <intelikey> device mountpoint fstype options 0 0
[05:27] <bobbyyu> By device, what do you mean? Server name/server share or /medianame/media share?
[05:29] <intelikey> bobbyyu is there a dir. named  /media/sda1/"Documents and Settings"/"Bobby Yu"/"My Documents"      in your /media/ dir ?
[05:30] <xsacha> thanks, lol
[05:30] <bobbyyu> That's correct (without the quotes)
[05:30] <dragonflyseven> Help please: I am having trouble with unzipping a .rar. When I click on it, the launch icon for ark starts, but ark never opens. If I say sudo ark in the terminal it says that it had a communication problem, and that ark probably crashed. Ark is still listed in processes, but if I kill it, the same thing happens next time.
[05:30] <intelikey> xsacha you a samba pro ?
[05:31] <xsacha> no
[05:31] <intelikey> jucato ?
[05:31] <Jucato> huh?
[05:31] <intelikey> you a samba pro ?
[05:31] <Jucato> nope :)
[05:32] <Jucato> I have nothing to network yet :)
[05:32] <unix_infidel> intelikey: just ask the question :P
[05:32] <intelikey> unix_infidel are you ?
[05:32] <unix_infidel> i know OF samba :P
[05:33] <intelikey> unix_infidel bobbyyu has been asking.  i've done about all i can do with the    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29001/plain/
[05:33] <Kiongku> Jucato: how big is ur linux partition :P?
[05:33] <intelikey> oooh ask me ask me.....
[05:33] <Jucato> Kiongku: which one? :P
[05:34] <unix_infidel> intelikey: so what's the problem?
[05:34] <intelikey> unix_infidel ask bobbyyu
[05:34] <bobbyyu> I'm trying to share my Windows mounts
[05:34] <bobbyyu> I configured everything in System settings
[05:35] <unix_infidel> you can share windows to windows using that same netbios name and path?
[05:35] <Kiongku> Jucato: the one containing ur os lol
[05:35] <bobbyyu> But when I try to reach those shares in my other computer, it's password protected
[05:36] <bobbyyu> I know, infidel, but I want to keep sharing when I'm on the Linux OS
[05:36] <bobbyyu> It's just my preference
[05:36] <bobbyyu> And it's a convenience
[05:36] <unix_infidel> bobbyyu: nono, i asked CAN you when you're between windows and windows.
[05:36] <Jucato> Kiongku: 500MB /boot, 9GB /, 35GB /home
[05:36] <bobbyyu> Yes, I can share
[05:36] <bobbyyu> on Windows
[05:36] <intelikey> Kiongku i wish you would have asked me....
[05:37] <Kiongku> intelikey: sure i ask u :p
[05:37] <unix_infidel> bobbyyu: sometimes you need to change the uid on the binary for smbmount.
[05:37] <intelikey> Kiongku i don't have a linux partition.  ;b
[05:37] <intelikey> lol
[05:37] <Kiongku> intelikey: xD
[05:37] <unix_infidel> bobbyyu: try issuing the command for the share mount as root, and see if you can access it.
[05:37] <Kiongku> Jucato: so to upgrade to egdy u formatted only the / partition?
[05:37] <intelikey> yeah
[05:38] <bobbyyu> How do I do that?
[05:38] <intelikey> i'm not Jucato but that's the answer.
[05:38] <Kiongku> intelikey: lol.. if u dunt have linux partition.. what do u have?
[05:38] <Jucato> Kiongku: er no. because I repartitioned everything. made a total overhaul of my setup :)
[05:38] <intelikey> a linux fs
[05:38] <Jucato> Kiongku: but technically, yes, you only format /boot and /
[05:38] <intelikey> or exactly and ext2fs
[05:38] <Kiongku> Jucato: duh... u know i am burning my 15 th dvd since yesterday and i'm not rdy yet to make the move lol..
[05:39] <Jucato> lol :)
[05:39] <Kiongku> *fs*?
[05:39] <Jucato> fs = filesystem
[05:39] <intelikey> fs = file system
[05:39] <Jucato> fstab = filesystem table, not file stab :P
[05:39] <Kiongku> duh think my burner wil burn.. 15/16 dvds good.. the last one k3b hanged up
[05:39] <bobbyyu> unix_infidel: I'm sorry, but how can I share the mount as root?
[05:40] <xsacha> it's not file stab? DAMN that changes my entire view of fstab
[05:40] <unix_infidel> bobbyyu: its just to check things are kosher with the uid's issued so that normal user can use it without pass.
[05:40] <Kiongku> k3b hanged up on 97%... grr
[05:40] <unix_infidel> bobbyyu: just issue the mount command with those params as root.
[05:40] <BluesKaj> any bugfixes in for the screensaver yet?
[05:40] <Jucato> yay! compiled my first C program using gcc :P (Hello world!)
[05:40] <Kiongku> hahaha
[05:40] <Kiongku> say hello kubuntu lol
[05:40] <intelikey> fail safe tab
[05:41] <Jucato> intelikey: :P
[05:41] <intelikey> :)
[05:41] <Jucato> Kiongku: you're right. how silly of me :)
[05:41] <Kiongku> :P
[05:41] <Jucato> "Hello, Kubuntu Edgy!"
[05:41] <dragonflyseven> Help please: I am having trouble with unzipping a .rar. When I click on it, the launch icon for ark starts, but ark never opens. If I say sudo ark in the terminal it says that it had a communication problem, and that ark probably crashed. Ark is still listed in processes, but if I kill it, the same thing happens next time.
[05:41] <Kiongku> anyone apart Hawkwind using e17?
[05:41] <Kiongku> hmm .rar
[05:42] <Kiongku> ARk supposed to be able to read that o.O?
[05:42] <intelikey> dragonflyseven unrarfree
[05:42] <bobbyyu> Wait, I need to restart my computer.
[05:42] <Jucato> dragonflyseven: have you installed unrar or unrar-free?
[05:42] <Kiongku> ya.. need to add something
[05:42] <Jucato> intelikey: unrar or unrar-free, to be exact :P
[05:42] <intelikey> unrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files
[05:42] <dragonflyseven> Just a second... Looking.
[05:42] <unix_infidel> restart? wtf?
[05:42] <Kiongku> i remember that ARK could not do it by default
[05:42] <Jucato> intelikey: unrar-free doesn't support the latest RAR versions, iirc
[05:43] <Kiongku> hmm
[05:43] <intelikey> Jucato i did a q unrar cause i couldn't remember if it had a dash or not....
[05:43] <Jucato> unrar was formerly known as unrar-nonfree
[05:43] <intelikey> you beet me to it.
[05:43] <Kiongku> beet? beetroot?
[05:43] <Jucato> lol
[05:43] <intelikey> i'm not root
[05:43] <Jucato> I promised intelikey to ignore his typos :)
[05:43] <intelikey> HEY, I'M NOT ROOT !
[05:43] <Kiongku> haha
[05:43] <Jucato> at least this time I kept that promise :)
[05:43] <Kiongku> ok ur a stem :P
[05:44] <Jucato> (he's a weed...)
[05:44] <Kiongku> if not u can be a branch or a leaf
[05:44] <intelikey> lol
[05:44] <Kiongku> lol Jucato hit bull eye's
[05:44] <intelikey> you guys.....
[05:44] <Jucato> ok... going back on topic...
[05:44] <Jucato> speaking of which, I haven't installed rar/unrar myself... lol
[05:44] <intelikey> Q; you know the differance between a duck
[05:45] <Kiongku> intelikey: ._. ... k.. intelikey is a person end of discussion..
[05:45] <dragonflyseven> No I haden't. Thanks guys.
[05:45] <intelikey> A; one leg is both the same
[05:45] <Jucato> intelikey: the difference between a duck and a what?
[05:45] <intelikey>  i like that one.
[05:46] <intelikey> geeks generally get it.  but hate to say so cause it denotes them as geeks....
[05:46] <Kiongku> listen to that.. A duck goes from Mr A's house to Mr B's House.. during the route the ducks lays an egg.. who owns the egg?
[05:46] <intelikey> the duck
[05:47] <Jucato> ...
[05:47] <Jucato> we seriously need someone to ask a support question...
[05:47] <Kiongku> why the duck? why not Mr A since Mr A owns the duck.. so the egg is also for Mr A :P?
[05:47] <intelikey> lol
[05:47] <BluesKaj> not if Mr B gets there first :)
[05:47] <intelikey> @ Jucato
[05:47] <Kiongku> hahaha
[05:48] <Jucato> Kiongku: you never said that Mr. A owned the duck
[05:48] <Jucato> you only said that the duck goes from Mr. A's house
[05:48] <Kiongku> Jucato: got me "pwned"..
[05:48] <intelikey> nor that B was buying the duck.....
[05:48] <Jucato> :P
[05:48] <BluesKaj> assumptions
[05:48] <dragonflyseven> jucato: how about you help me set up samba so i can print to a printer that is connected to a windows xp computer on this network.
[05:48] <intelikey> ass-u-me nothing
[05:48] <Jucato> dragonflyseven: I would if I could. I don't have anything to network so I haven't played with samba at all...
[05:48] <Jucato> oh wait, I did play with samba. and it was a total disaster
[05:49] <Kiongku> hurray for those owning only 1 pcs.. in life
[05:49] <intelikey> :)
[05:49] <dragonflyseven> It is really irritating me.
[05:49] <intelikey> i counted mmmmm 8 here the other day.
[05:49] <dragonflyseven> I have done it before, but I cant remember how.
[05:49] <Kiongku> 8?
[05:49] <intelikey> yeah
[05:49] <Jucato> 8 PC's
[05:49] <Kiongku> where o.O
[05:49] <intelikey> yeah
[05:49] <Kiongku> "itnelikey's house"???
[05:50] <Kiongku> *intelikey
[05:50] <intelikey> itnelikey    hmmmmmmm
[05:50] <dragonflyseven> That is a lot. How do I get my computer to recognize our workgroup?
[05:50] <intelikey> hmmmmm
[05:50] <Kiongku> hmmmmmmmmm
[05:50] <BluesKaj> dragonflyseven, do you have the cups unix chosen in the sys/settings/printers/
[05:50] <itnelikey> clone
[05:51] <dragonflyseven> looking...
[05:51] <intelikey> clown
[05:51] <intelikey> :)
[05:51] <itnelikey> bogus
[05:51] <itnelikey> doppleganger..
[05:52] <intelikey> 8*{   i hope he's out of five dollar words.......
[05:52] <Zesty> Hello, I'm having some fun trying to compile c++ with g++, I think it might be library linking issues, but what would be wrong, I set up an extremely elementary example to test with (which would definitely compile) but I'm receiving the following : '/tmp/ccKXgGza.o: In function `main':main.cpp:(.text+0x50): undefined reference to `test::echo(std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >)'
[05:52] <Zesty> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status'
[05:53] <intelikey> !b-e
[05:53] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:53] <dragonflyseven> blues: I don't even have a settings folder. What does that mean?
[05:54] <BluesKaj> SYSTEM SETTINGS in the k-menu
[05:54] <intelikey> dragonflyseven i think menu>system>settings>printer is what was meant.
[05:54] <intelikey> yeah that
[05:54] <dragonflyseven> Oh, sorry. I was looking in folders.
[05:55] <intelikey> yeah the sys/  threw me too for a sec
[05:55] <Zesty> intelikey, what am I looking for on that link?
[05:55] <bobbyyu> There. I'm back
[05:55] <Zesty> Seems like elementary compiling tips rather than any specific trouble shooting
[05:56] <intelikey> Zesty ah build-essential ?
[05:56] <dragonflyseven> Ok, this looks useful, but I need to get on my network/ workgroup.
[05:56] <bobbyyu> Is there a utility that will mount points such that it'll change the partitions to write mode?
[05:56] <Zesty> Installed that earlier, still no joy intelikey
[05:56] <dragonflyseven> It doesn't recognize that there is a network. (CUPS is enabled)
[05:56] <bobbyyu> When i share, I want to be able for the other computer to write (ie add files) to this computer
[05:57] <Zerb_Riss> hmmm
[05:57] <Zesty> 'build-essential is already the newest version.'
[05:57] <intelikey> bobbyyu fstab changes your access.....   or mount -o remount,<options-here> /mount/point.....
[05:57] <Zerb_Riss> need some help, I just updated to Edgy and X won't run automatically
[05:58] <intelikey> Zesty ok.  let me revisit your post....
[05:58] <itnelikey> bobbyyu: dunt think windows like ext3 system
[05:59] <dragonflyseven> So how do I get my network running.
[05:59] <dragonflyseven> My router recognizes my computer, but my computer won't recognize the network.
[05:59] <mefisto_> I have an audio problem. I just installed kubuntu and am no longer hearing any sound. I have two sound cards, and have no idea how to set things up so sound is played thru the right one. At the moment Kmix is showing the wrong sound card every time I log in.
[06:00] <nikkun> mefisto: in the System Settings under sound System goto hardware ad there you should be able to select the card
[06:01] <mefisto_> you mean sound & multimedia?
[06:01] <nikkun> yah
[06:01] <mefisto_> there's only alsa, oss, etc as device choices
[06:02] <nikkun> try the one under that
[06:02] <intelikey> Zesty idk.   ***undefined reference to....***  is either librarry or makefile error     i don't know.  i think there is a #gcc  or other channels   also  ##linux  might help.    if no one in here can pinpoint that.
[06:03] <Zerb_Riss> I don't know what to do :(
[06:03] <mefisto_> the one under what?
[06:03] <BluesKaj> yeah dragonflyseven, i have the same problem ...komba2 sees the network and the files but I can't access since windows doesn't see the linux pc
[06:03] <nikkun> in the lower section (btw its just a guess)
[06:04] <Zesty> intelikey, it's much more specific to kubuntu, compiles fine on other distro's such as gentoo, debian and slackware
[06:04] <mefisto_> there's a place to type in "override device location". is there something I can put there?
[06:05] <Zesty> mefisto_, you can specify the audio hardware to use through kmix
[06:05] <intelikey> yes, ok. Zesty but that only narrows it to a librarry issue.  doesn't help me help you any.  sorry.     (and just a note. i'm not even part of the "team" here)
[06:06] <intelikey> i answer questions as i can but that and using their 'twisted' distro is as far as me and *buntu go.
[06:06] <mefisto_> Zesty: I can change it in kmix, but no sound is coming thru the soundcard. I need to route the sound system to the right card first I think
[06:07] <intelikey> plug speaker into other card and see
[06:07] <intelikey> :)
[06:08] <Zerb_Riss> how do I troubleshoot X problems?
[06:08] <mefisto_> yes but I want sound thru the good card
[06:08] <mefisto_> it worked fine in livecd before I installed
[06:08] <Napa> Good morning!  Why do I get access denied when I try to save some files to my exsisting win-drive E:\ ?
[06:09] <BluesKaj> the kmix switch settings , they were set to digital for some reason
[06:09] <Kiongku> Napa: bcoz linux does not support ntfs
[06:09] <intelikey> read .xsession*error* Zerb_Riss for starters
[06:09] <Napa> kiongku: but I think it's fat32
[06:10] <intelikey> Zerb_Riss if you do startx in a console what does it exit with ?
[06:10] <Kiongku> Napa: check it
[06:10] <Zerb_Riss> intelikey, nothing, it starts X
[06:10] <intelikey> Zerb_Riss the what makes you think there is an X problem ?
[06:10] <Napa> Kiongku:  There isn't a CHKMOD command I could use to get more access ?
[06:10] <Zerb_Riss> intelikey, it's weird, if I let the computer sit for about ten minutes, it tries to start x, then just exits back to the command line
[06:11] <Zerb_Riss> intelikey, I hit Ctrl+Alt+F7 and get a black screen
[06:11] <Kiongku> hmm
[06:11] <intelikey> and startx starts X without error ?
[06:11] <Kiongku> no idea
[06:11] <Zerb_Riss> intelikey, yes
[06:12] <Zerb_Riss> I think I'm going to reinstall dapper and try the upgrade again
[06:12] <intelikey> that's an *dm problem i'd think
[06:12] <Kiongku> never accessed my win drive so.. dunt have any experience in it
[06:12] <Napa> ok
[06:12] <Kiongku> but why is it fat32?..
[06:12] <intelikey> Zerb_Riss which ?dm are you using kdm ?
[06:12] <Kiongku> u changed it?
[06:12] <Zerb_Riss> intelikey, yes
[06:12] <Napa> maybe I'm wrong
[06:13] <intelikey> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[06:13] <mano> hi
[06:13] <dragonflyseven> How do I get on my windows network?
[06:13] <intelikey> Napa access to what ?
[06:14] <intelikey> dragonflyseven samba  but that's all i know about that.
[06:14] <intelikey> !samba
[06:14] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:14] <arejaytee> can i resize a partition from within kubuntu so i can install xp onto the extra space?
[06:15] <intelikey> arejaytee not a mounted one.
[06:15] <dragonflyseven> intelikey: thanks, I will try rtfming for a while then. :)
[06:15] <Napa> intelikey: I have a 250 gb harddrive .. originally partioned in 3 parts .. one part with win xp, and two parts for games, utilities , mp3, video etc ... - I made one new part for my kubuntu ... But I only made the new one 10 gb large .. that's why I want to download files to one of my other "drives"
[06:15] <intelikey> and resizing is always dangerous. @ arejaytee
[06:16] <arejaytee> i dont particular want to format the hd and start fresh and get kubuntu back to how it is now
[06:16] <intelikey> Napa ok what fs are the others ntfs ?
[06:17] <intelikey> arejaytee i stand under you.  resize is a better choice.  try the live cd
[06:17] <intelikey> or a knoppix cd
[06:18] <arejaytee> good idea
[06:18] <Napa> intelikey: yes I guess they are .... I thought they maybe are Fat32 but I were wrong
[06:18] <intelikey> Napa other partition is ??????? ntfs ?
[06:18] <intelikey> ah ok
[06:19] <intelikey> !ntfs | napa
[06:19] <ubotu> napa: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:19] <Napa> and those partitions are read only at tje moment
[06:19] <intelikey> napa yes the options in the fstab can permanantly change that.
[06:21] <Napa> how do I get fstab working ?
[06:21] <Napa> I have to install some packages maybe?
[06:22] <intelikey> napa no fstab (the file system table) is working.  you edit /etc/fstab..... to give you a rough idea; /dev/hda2 /media/storage ntfs dmask=000,fmask=111,users,user 0 0
[06:22] <Napa> gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:22] <intelikey> yes.
[06:22] <intelikey> or kedit
[06:22] <intelikey> or kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[06:22] <intelikey> depends on the basic installation.....
[06:23] <intelikey> if you installed kubuntu use   kdesu kate /etc/fstab    if you installed ubuntu   gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:23] <Napa> ok sda2 ntfs sda3 ntfs and sd4 ntfs
[06:23] <pc22>  anyone suggest the cheapest way to call the US?
[06:23] <Napa> pc22: skype :p
[06:23] <intelikey> yeap prolly 3 and 4 are the ones you want.
[06:24] <pc22> other than skype hehehe
[06:24] <Napa> intelikey:  that's correct
[06:24] <Napa> pc22: Broadband-telecom ;)
[06:24] <arejaytee> gizmo pc22,
[06:24] <intelikey> Napa also if you want to add a little security to your xp installation you could remove the line that mounts it   prolly sda2
[06:25] <arejaytee> sign up and add the number u want to call into your home phone number, then call your id/home number and it will do it over the internet for free
[06:25] <intelikey> seeing that ntfs is not fully supported in linux
[06:25] <Napa> intelikey: but I want to be able to use the partition in both windows and linux
[06:25] <Zerb_Riss> intelikey, dpkg-reconfigure kdm had no effect
[06:26] <intelikey> Napa "but I want to be able to use the partition"  which ?   sda2 sda3 sda5 ?
[06:26] <Napa> intelikey: all of them
[06:26] <intelikey> Zerb_Riss been messing around in the config for kdm ?
[06:26] <Napa> I have 30 gb free in sda2 , 20 gb free in sda3, and 40 or something in sfa5
[06:26] <Zerb_Riss> intelikey, no, this is straight off of an Dapper->Edgy upgrade
[06:27] <intelikey> Napa then use them.   i only sujested not using the one with xp installed on it.... doesn't matter to me......
[06:27] <Napa> intelikey: My wish was that I could directly make a "download" directory from LinuxDc++ in e.g sda3 ....
[06:27] <intelikey> Napa you can.
[06:28] <intelikey> add the fmask and dmask i showed you.
[06:28] <Napa> I won't destroy anything?
[06:28] <arejaytee> anyone know of a tut to dual boot fomr linux, lol all tuts are from windows to add linux lol
[06:28] <intelikey> Napa that i will not promice
[06:28] <TehKewl1> hey.... why arent they shipping edgy? >:(
[06:28] <Napa> hehe
[06:29] <arejaytee> isnt it RC TehKewl1
[06:29] <intelikey> tehkewl1  are they not ?
[06:29] <Napa> I guess I better wait then ..... or buy an other harddrive to use in Linux
[06:29] <TehKewl1> not free
[06:30] <Napa> they are not expensive ... guess I'll gett 200 GB for 100$ or so
[06:30] <Zerb_Riss> intelikey, ah well, It'll take less time to reinstall Dapper and upgrade than this is taking  :)
[06:30] <intelikey> Napa why not move everything from one partition to the other and remake the empty as vfat then move back what you want both to access.....  just a thought.
[06:30] <TehKewl1> I meant the CD's are not free
[06:31] <intelikey> Zerb_Riss why not just install edgy streight..... ?
[06:31] <Zerb_Riss> intelikey, don't have any blank CDs
[06:31] <intelikey> oh kay.
[06:32] <TehKewl1> I have a 64k internet connection.... it's been capped
[06:32] <Napa> intelikey: yes that is also one possibility ...  I did not know it was possible to reconfigure the medias .. So I thought I had to remove anything from D:\ to be able to make one partition for the linux OS ... but I found an utility that did the work for me :)
[06:33] <intelikey> D:\ ????     hehhe
[06:33] <BluesKaj> I gave windows 90G amd kubuntu 60G on my drive and there's plenty of room ...i might even use Gparted to downsize the ntfs and enlarge ext3 to 80 or 90
[06:33] <Napa> sda3 :p
[06:33] <TehKewl1> :O DRIVE LETTERS
[06:33] <Napa> much easier to say D:\   ... This is my third day on linux ;)
[06:33] <TehKewl1> run for it
[06:34] <Napa> and i'm starting to understand hwo everything works ... I love google :p and wiki's :p
[06:34] <BluesKaj> now that mostly everything that counts works on Edgy i may consider dropping in a small 40g HDD just for windows
[06:35] <intelikey> BluesKaj i like a root partition (if i used partitions) of about 6g  and a home of around 20g /var of about 4g   and if space is plentious maybe /media of about 40g
[06:35] <Napa> Is the newest version of kubuntu much different than the one I have (6.06)
[06:36] <Napa> is 6.10 stable or should I wait a month or two before I upgrade?
[06:36] <BluesKaj> right intelikey, that sounds cool
[06:36] <intelikey> Napa 6.6 is LTS 6.10 is the first release of the full rewrite     (so to speak)
[06:36] <intelikey> !lts
[06:36] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[06:37] <Napa> intelikey: I got 10 cds of 6.06 shipped here :)
[06:37] <intelikey> lts would assumedly be the more stable of the releases because they will continue to fix things reported......
[06:38] <Napa> Is it allowed selling a copy to frinds and family? making profit on'em ;) ?
[06:38] <intelikey> that is an assumption  we will see how it turns out in reality....
[06:38] <TehKewl1> Napa..... I wouldnt
[06:38] <intelikey> Napa there is a license agreement read it.... short answer  yes.
[06:38] <Kiongku> Napa: yah.. for a clear conscience
[06:39] <Napa> There was a geek at qxl.no selling copies online .... 10$ a piece
[06:39] <stacy> hello room
[06:39] <Kiongku> but they will find out they were cheated soon enough though :p
[06:39] <intelikey> room..... this is not aol.....
[06:39] <Napa> lol
[06:39] <Kiongku> thsi is a channel
[06:40] <stacy> sorry i didnt mean to offend i am seriously new to this i just got linux this month and havent learned everything yet
[06:40] <intelikey> Napa some would gladly pay a little to save the trubble of dl'ing on someone else's box and burning to disk....
[06:40] <intelikey> depends on the inet
[06:41] <BluesKaj> lotta ppl still use the word room , and they aren't on aol
[06:41] <intelikey> * access
[06:41] <Zerb_Riss> what is the appropriate way to upgrade Kubuntu to Edgy?
[06:41] <intelikey> !upgrade
[06:41] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:41] <Zerb_Riss> hah thanks, I should have known
[06:42] <Kiongku> omg 955 nicks in #ubuntu
[06:42] <BluesKaj> heh
[06:42] <intelikey> Zerb_Riss it's not that we like to say 'rtgm' it's that we hate to type the same instructions day after day
[06:42] <K`zan> Ah, started to install ubuntu (amd64) and got to the pick partition and it doesn't seem to see / accept my selection for the root partition( free partition /dev/sda12 on my working drive)  help?
[06:43] <K`zan> "No root file system"  but I have sda12 set up for "/"
[06:43] <Zerb_Riss> intelikey, I know I hang out in here quite a bit.. so my text really meant I should have known better as opposed to thanks, sherlock
[06:43] <stacy> i just got ubuntu and i need help with the paths to install new software programs to my system can anyone help me out
[06:43] <intelikey> ah  k
[06:44] <K`zan> Let me guess, ubuntu has to have a primary partition only like m$ stuff?
[06:44] <intelikey> !packages
[06:44] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[06:44] <intelikey> !repos
[06:44] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:44] <intelikey> stacy both   ^
[06:45] <Zerb_Riss> tacy, what kinds of things do you want to install?
[06:45] <Zerb_Riss> stacy, ^^
[06:46] <stacy> macromedia flashplayer for one
[06:46] <intelikey> K`zan no.  linux doesn't need primary  doesn't actually need a partition.  but partition numbers above 8 on the install cd may cause problems....
[06:46] <Zerb_Riss> you'll probably want flash player 9 beta
[06:46] <Zerb_Riss> !flash
[06:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:46] <Zerb_Riss> hmm
[06:46] <stacy> i have downloaded it but it wont allow me to install it from the download
[06:46] <Zerb_Riss> stacy, where did you get it?
[06:46] <stacy> off of the adobe website
[06:47] <Kiongku> nope
[06:47] <Kiongku> use adept
[06:47] <Zerb_Riss> stacy, it's flash player 9 beta for linux installer?
[06:47] <stacy> oh thanks so much
[06:47] <intelikey> beta
[06:47] <Zerb_Riss> flash 9 beta isn't in Adept
[06:47] <stacy> and where can i go to get this
[06:48] <Kiongku> !flash9
[06:48] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:48] <stacy> thanks so much for helping out
[06:48] <Kiongku> need to tweak the repos sources..
[06:49] <stacy> im getting it now
[06:49] <intelikey> caution !   using beta software  when you are new to a system can sour you.   you may have trubble that you assume is the os when in fact the beta soft may be buggy.
[06:49] <Zerb_Riss> be aware that unofficial repositories can cause a number of problems if they are not from trusted sources
[06:49] <Kiongku> yeah for intelikey's timely warnings :P
[06:49] <stacy> ok ill be mindful of that
[06:49] <intelikey> not knowing enough to tell the differance is a good reason to stay away from betas
[06:50] <Kiongku> well did try the beta adn kinda buggy with ff
[06:50] <Zerb_Riss> unfortunately, there isn't really a choice if you want working Flash in Linux
[06:50] <Zerb_Riss> I haven't had any trouble with it
[06:50] <Kiongku> well dunno.. what ff u using?
[06:50] <Zerb_Riss> 2.0
[06:50] <Kiongku> 1.5 here..
[06:50] <intelikey> Zerb_Riss yes but others have.... that's why i mentioned it.
[06:50] <Zerb_Riss> bah get with the times man :)
[06:50] <Kiongku> haha i will
[06:51] <TehKewl1> is 2.0 in the repository yet?
[06:51] <Kiongku> but wait i get to edgy first
[06:51] <Zerb_Riss> intelikey, no problem mentioning it :) I'm just saying that there is no way to get many Flash sites working in Linux without it
[06:51] <Zerb_Riss> TehKewl1, it's in Edgy but not Dapper, iirc
[06:51] <intelikey> yeah but flash is evil anyway.
[06:51] <Zerb_Riss> yah
[06:51] <TehKewl1> so much for long term support
[06:51] <Zerb_Riss> unfortunately, it's just a part of the web these days
[06:52] <stacy> ok it has brought up a screen saying open files , available applications and recent applications with remove cancel and open in it what would i type into the application prompt
[06:52] <Zerb_Riss> TehKewl1, it will probably be rolled out in the next security updates
[06:52] <Kiongku> TehKewl1: it is long term support.. 1.5 is mroe stable
[06:52] <TehKewl1> whats the edgy repo url?
[06:52] <Zerb_Riss> intelikey, most movies websites as well as music artists websites are built in Flash 8+
[06:52] <BluesKaj> ya don't have to like it, but ya have to live with evil.
[06:52] <intelikey> i didn't stutter.
[06:52] <Kiongku> think u just replace all dapper with edgy in the sources.list?
[06:53] <nikkun> something about flashplayer?
[06:53] <intelikey> i don't have to use it. BluesKaj
[06:53] <stacy> im really lost here i know nothing of installing programs
[06:53] <nikkun> do people not know the Flashplayer 9 beta is out now
[06:53] <Kiongku> we were talking about that nikkun
[06:53] <arejaytee> fuck it i think i will start again and just delete everything
[06:54] <nikkun> flashplayer 9 works good :)
[06:54] <arejaytee> probably remember what to do better this time lol
[06:54] <Kiongku> mine ur language arejaytee
[06:54] <arejaytee> soz
[06:54] <Kiongku> e/mine/mind
[06:54] <intelikey> !repos | stacy
[06:54] <ubotu> stacy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:54] <intelikey> please read.
[06:57] <Linux_Galore> just updated to edgy, one problem (if it is actually a problem) is adept updater keeps saying I have to update xorg but then goes and tells me its going to break my system
[06:57] <irvin> can kpresenter open/edit powerpoint files?
[06:58] <Linux_Galore> xserver-xorg is intalled fine that 7.1.1
[06:58] <Linux_Galore> installed*
[07:00] <BluesKaj> nite all
[07:01] <intelikey> Linux_Galore dapper seems to be   X Window System Version 7.0.0
[07:01] <Linux_Galore> yes I know
[07:01] <Linux_Galore> Ive updated dapper to edgy
[07:02] <Linux_Galore> it all boots up fine then I get stuck on the adept updater on two packages, I have a feeling the xorg package is not needed its talking about debian and etch
[07:02] <intelikey> i'm just saying that it isn't the dapper version so it's prolly a bug fix or something.
[07:03] <intelikey> ah you have a debian repo.
[07:03] <intelikey> rumove it and do an sudp apt-get update
[07:03] <intelikey> shoud fix it
[07:03] <Linux_Galore> hmm Im looking and all I have are ubuntu repo's
[07:04] <intelikey> pastebin
[07:05] <intelikey> Linux_Galore pastebin your sources.list
[07:05] <stacy> what other channels can i use with konversation
[07:05] <Linux_Galore> ok
[07:05] <stacy> just wondering since this is all so new to me
[07:05] <Linux_Galore> hold on let me swap to my other machine
[07:05] <intelikey> tens of thousands on this server and thousands of servers
[07:05] <intelikey> stacy ^
[07:05] <stacy> wow
[07:06] <Linux_Galore> here we go
[07:06] <Linux_Galore> whats the addy for pastbin
[07:07] <intelikey> i don't advise this,   but generally a   /list   command in the irc client will list all channels on the connected server.
[07:07] <K`zan> Yeah, that can be a LONG list :-).
[07:07] <intelikey> it's in the toppic Linux_Galore
[07:07] <stacy> ok
[07:08] <K`zan> Well.... Looks like the 6.10 installer will not let you have an extended partition for root :-(.
[07:08] <intelikey> K`zan based on what ?
[07:09] <intelikey> K`zan does it see any of the extended partitions on that drive ?
[07:09] <stacy> ok as i have been typing i have also been looking at the repositories page and i have tried what it says to do but it wont allow me to open the adept package manager so what do i do now
[07:09] <dude> hello guys
[07:09] <K`zan> intelikey: Based on it telling me no root partition selected when /dev/sda12 *IS* selected and labled as "/"...
[07:10] <Linux_Galore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29010/
[07:10] <stacy> it says failed to execute child process kdesu ( no such directory or file
[07:10] <K`zan> Going to try the alternate CD before giving up.
[07:10] <intelikey> K`zan and set to format ?
[07:10] <irvin> is anyone using kubuntu? just one quick question -> can kpresenter open/edit powerpoint files?
[07:10] <xsacha> K`zan: it let me choose an extended :S
[07:10] <K`zan> intelikey: That didn't make any difference either.
[07:11] <intelikey> K`zan what fs type ?  has to be something that supports fid bits
[07:11] <K`zan> irvin: OpenOffice will, not always perfectly, but it will.
[07:11] <K`zan> intelikey: IIRC it was a reiser partition
[07:11] <irvin> K`zan, but can kpresenter open it?
[07:11] <omicron_> hi there. i am doing an apt-get dist-upgrade at the moment and always get the following error:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdesdk/libcvsservice0_3.5.5-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  Size mismatch for about 30 packages or so. so I am not able to complete the upgrade. can anyone point me in the right direction to get this working?
[07:11] <K`zan> irvin: Never tried that, sorry.
[07:12] <K`zan> irvin: Try it ?
[07:12] <intelikey> actually it's dos extended partition labeled what ever and formated to rieserfs... but that's symantic.
[07:12] <irvin> K`zan, i wish i could but i'm using xubuntu, i don't want to install kpresenter yet. anyway thanks
[07:12] <K`zan> intelikey: I know it works with gentoo with no problem, for whatever that many mean.
[07:12] <K`zan> irvin: Sorry I couldn't be more help.
[07:13] <K`zan> many / may
[07:13] <K`zan> Another 10 minutes for the alternate CD and then I'll burn and try that.
[07:14] <stacy> what exactly is knosole
[07:14] <stacy> konsole
[07:14] <intelikey> Linux_Galore i don't see anything there either.... did you doctor that before you posted it ???  <looks over glasses at Linux_Galore>
[07:15] <intelikey> stacy konsole is a linux terminal emulator for the X window system    ~= windows command prompt
[07:16] <stacy> oh ok
[07:16] <stacy> can that help me to install this flashplayer
[07:17] <xsacha> you can do everything from the konsole
[07:17] <intelikey> stacy it can.  it is installed.   menu > system > konsole    (iirc) to get there.
[07:17] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: its incomplete Im removing all the rubbish
[07:17] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: and i will repost
[07:17] <stacy> i get it to the extracting point and then i dont get anything else
[07:17] <omicron_> I want to upgrade from dapper to edgy, but I get errors about not matching file sizes for about 30 packages. I tried apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing but that does not work either.
[07:17] <intelikey> Linux_Galore k
[07:18] <stacy> it goes into and archive and then extracts from the archive and stops
[07:19] <intelikey> stace that sounds like it's asking you to agree to a license and the window is not popping up.  common problem  someone else might know a way to get it too  but i'd say do the install from the console so you can just type yes and continue when asked.
[07:19] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: here we go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29011/
[07:19] <stacy> so how would i start the install from konsole
[07:20] <intelikey> stacy  command line for that would be something like     sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[07:20] <stacy> thanks
[07:20] <intelikey> assuming it's downloaded to your home.   find the package.  it may be in your home dir or  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:21] <intelikey> and just use that command on it.
[07:21] <stacy> its on my desktop
[07:21] <intelikey> you will have to close adept first.
[07:21] <intelikey> k that ~/Desktop/filename.deb   then
[07:23] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: I cant see a think wrong, have to look were the package is comming from and disable it
[07:23] <stacy> ok
[07:23] <leonrott> hi
[07:23] <stacy> its says permission denied
[07:24] <leonrott> excuse me somebody talks in spanish?
[07:25] <stacy> disable adept
[07:25] <stacy> ????
[07:27] <intelikey> no close the application stacy only one package manager can run at a time.
[07:27] <intelikey> !es
[07:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:27] <stacy> ok cool i did that
[07:27] <intelikey> you installed it ?
[07:28] <stacy> no i closed adept
[07:28] <stacy> im still trying to install it keeps saying permission denied
[07:28] <bioticpro> anyone here use k9copy?  I have a problem with a dvd where it crashes when trying to copy it
[07:29] <intelikey> stacy    sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[07:30] <intelikey> !sudo
[07:30] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:30] <stacy> is blah where the file name goes
[07:30] <stacy> ???
[07:30] <intelikey> yep
[07:31] <intelikey> and the tab key helps with spelling
[07:31] <intelikey> type part of the name and hit tab
[07:31] <stacy> command not found
[07:31] <stacy> is what it said that time
[07:32] <intelikey> bash; sudo; command not found    or  bash; dpkg; command not found  ?
[07:33] <stacy> sudo :command not found
[07:34] <intelikey> look closely at the spelling.  use the tab key.   sud[tab-key]  dpk[tab-key]  -i Desk[tab-key]   .....
[07:34] <stacy> ok
[07:34] <intelikey> it works wonders on the command line.
[07:35] <intelikey> it you have a new installation of kubuntu and sudo is not installed "i'll eat your hat!"   :)
[07:35] <xsacha> yeah intelikey, especially useful for long directory names..
[07:35] <E[m] ess> hi, im getting an error that composite manager crashed twice in a minute and has been clsoed for teh session whenever i switch my WM from kwin to beryl. in beryl, all the window borders disappear and minimised windows show up, and i cant move any of them or use beryl effects, any ideas?
[07:35] <xsacha> cd drive_c/Pr<tab> and it does Program\ Files/ for me
[07:36] <stacy> stacy@scarlett:~$ sudo dpkg -i Desktop/FP9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz.deb
[07:36] <stacy> dpkg: error processing Desktop/FP9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz.deb (--install):
[07:36] <stacy>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[07:36] <stacy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:36] <stacy>  Desktop/FP9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz.deb
[07:36] <stacy> stacy@scarlett:~$
[07:36] <stacy> thats what i did and what it gave me
[07:36] <intelikey> that's a muffed dl. i'd say.
[07:37] <E[m] ess> that error is saying that the download for the deb didnt work and its corrupeted, try seeing if its md5 matches
[07:37] <intelikey> wait.   wait.
[07:37] <intelikey> Desktop/FP9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz.deb  did you add the .deb on that ?
[07:37] <intelikey> or is it really there ?
[07:37] <stacy> yes
[07:37] <intelikey> :)
[07:37] <stacy> i added it
[07:37] <intelikey> too which ?
[07:37] <E[m] ess> you added .deb?
[07:37] <intelikey> k
[07:37] <stacy> yes
[07:37] <K`zan> intelikey: FWIW, writing as fast to the CD as K3B thinks I can does occasionally turn out a CD with problems...
[07:38] <E[m] ess> tar zxvf Desktop/FP9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz && sudo dpkg -i Desktop/FP9_plugin_beta_101806.deb
[07:38] <K`zan> running the verify on the burned CD will tell you about that though...
[07:38] <intelikey> that's the problem  it's not a debian archive.    you don't install tarballs
[07:38] <E[m] ess> you need to extract the deb file from the gunzip, its liek a zip fiel witht eh deb inside it
[07:38] <intelikey> stacy is there no ubuntu package to be found ?
[07:39] <intelikey> K`zan yes you can burn too fast and hose an installation cd
[07:39] <stacy> darn
[07:39] <K`zan> intelikey: Thus I restrict it to 8-12x
[07:39] <intelikey> i sujest about 8x max for install disks
[07:40] <E[m] ess> stacy: untar the file with tar zxvf filename.tar.gz
[07:40] <stacy> im trying so hard her ei get alot of web pages i cant see without the flashplayer
[07:40] <E[m] ess> and then sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[07:40] <K`zan> intelikey: Good idea, had all sorts of problem with the EMC/ubuntu install because of that, at least until I figured out that was the problem :-).
[07:40] <E[m] ess> if you are trying to isntall flashplayer why not jsut use apt-get?
[07:41] <intelikey> E[m] ess you going to setup the repos too ?
[07:41] <stacy> stacy@scarlett:~$ tar zxvf Fp9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz
[07:41] <stacy> tar: Fp9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[07:41] <stacy> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[07:41] <stacy> tar: Child returned status 2
[07:41] <stacy> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:41] <stacy> stacy@scarlett:~$
[07:41] <stacy> thats what i got on that one
[07:42] <E[m] ess> make sure your in the right directory for it stacy
[07:42] <intelikey> tar -xf Desktop/Fp9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz
[07:42] <K`zan> OK got it, got it burned, lets see if the alternate CD will work on sda12...  bbiab
[07:43] <intelikey> it's in stacy's Desktop dir
[07:43] <E[m] ess> ah, ok
[07:43] <stacy> yes its on the desktop
[07:43] <E[m] ess> stacy: you need to change to your desktop, so cd Desktop
[07:44] <E[m] ess> and then tar zxvf Fp9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz
[07:44] <intelikey> E[m] ess no.  just prepend the dir/
[07:44] <E[m] ess> or on your desktop right click it and select extrat to here
[07:44] <E[m] ess> or you cand o what intelikey said lol
[07:44] <kazaru> hello any one know how to solve the "hw_random: RNG not detected" error during boot?
[07:45] <intelikey> too many cooks in the channel spoil the stacy....  i'll  be back another time.
[07:45] <intelikey> luck with it.
[07:45] <stacy> thanks bunches
[07:45] <E[m] ess> later yo~
[07:46] <stacy> at least we tried
[07:46] <E[m] ess> stacy: you just want flash player right?
[07:47] <stacy> i extracted it and it put another folder on the desktop and yes to answer your ? i only want the flashplayer
[07:47] <E[m] ess> so why are you downloading a deb for it? you have kubuntu right?
[07:47] <stacy> yes ubuntu 6.06
[07:48] <stacy> i am really new to this and havent installed anything into it yet
[07:48] <E[m] ess> ok, do you have multiverse and universe? or do you not know what i mean?
[07:48] <E[m] ess> ok
[07:48] <stacy> no idea what you mean there
[07:48] <stacy> lol
[07:48] <E[m] ess> click on the big k and select system and then adept
[07:49] <stacy> it wont launch adept i tried that earlier
[07:49] <stacy> Details: Failed to execute child process "kdesu" (No such file or directory) this is the error i get
[07:50] <heinkel_111> I want to report a  bug in kubuntu (edgy) adept updater, but when i go to kubuntu.org > bugs i get _ubuntu_ bug reporting system. is this the right place to report?
[07:52] <aurora> need help to install php in kubuntu
[07:52] <heinkel_111> hi aurora
[07:52] <aurora> hii
[07:52] <heinkel_111> which version of kubuntu are you using?
[07:53] <stacy> E[m] ess are you there???
[07:53] <aurora> kubuntu 6.06 i386
[07:53] <aurora> i've install apache2 and mysql
[07:53] <heinkel_111> have you seen this guide page, written for 6.06 DApper Drake? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:54] <heinkel_111> i followed these instructions and was able to make it work without much problems
[07:54] <heinkel_111> aurora ^
[07:54] <aurora> okey
[07:55] <aurora> thx.. i'll try it
[07:55] <aurora> :D
[07:56] <sredna> Hi
[07:57] <sredna> I tried to install kde4base-dev, but I can't. There are some dependencies that prevents it.
[07:57] <sredna> I think I saw somewhere that kubuntu would be a good platform for kde4 development, so much for that :(
[07:57] <os2mac> ok lets try this again....... I am running Kubuntu 6.10 (live cd) on a dell inspiriron 8600 with a Broadcom 4306 wifi NIC
[07:58] <Linux_Galore> hmm
[07:58] <os2mac> the NIC gets detected and I can set the ssid and the Key for the WLAN but iwconfig shows access point: invalid
[07:59] <os2mac> and when I try to up the nic using "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" I get "SIOCSIFFLAGS:  no such file or directory.
[07:59] <aurora> thx heinkel_111 .. its work now :D
[08:00] <heinkel_111> you are welcome :D nice that some of my advice actually works :P
[08:00] <os2mac> can anyone help?:
[08:00] <Linux_Galore> this is weird if i type xorg it then says it doesnt exist but Im running an xorg session
[08:01] <Linux_Galore> this is in edgy after an update from dapper
[08:01] <os2mac> I can make it work with ndiswrapper but I really don't want to... I have to reconfigure it everytime I update.
[08:01] <os2mac> I would rather it work straight out of the box
[08:01] <arejaytee> what size partition should i make for kubuntu?, gunna format and start again, partition for windows and 1 for linux and 3rd for data access for both
[08:02] <Linux_Galore> os2mac: tell the hardware maker its not a linux issue
[08:02] <os2mac> not helping....
[08:03] <arejaytee> im thinking 2 5 gig partitions and then the rest for data storage
[08:03] <Linux_Galore> os2mac: of cource not its a hardware maker issue what can we do
[08:03] <Linux_Galore> course*
[08:03] <os2mac> it's an issue because broadcom refuses to issue *NIX drivers
[08:04] <os2mac> but supposedly there is a workaround to make it work... but you have to be using a .17 kernel.
[08:04] <flaccid> i did a dapper to edgy upgrade. how can i set my theme to the factory default for edgy so it looks like the screenshots?
[08:04] <Linux_Galore> os2mac: always do what openBSD guys do, no driver or hardware info then we wont support your gear full stop
[08:04] <os2mac> sorry I don't understand?
[08:05] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: under kcontrol ->look and ->feel themes
[08:05] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: under kcontrol ->look and feel ->themes
[08:05] <Jucato> flaccid: System Settings -> Appearance
[08:05] <Linux_Galore> os2mac: openBSD has very good wireless card support but only because they have forced the issue
[08:06] <Linux_Galore> os2mac: not such thing as ndis rubbish in openbsd
[08:07] <os2mac> ok again this isn't helping me fix the problem.
[08:07] <Linux_Galore> os2mac: the down side being it doesnt support as many cards
[08:07] <Linux_Galore> os2mac: we cant help you
[08:08] <os2mac> great...
[08:08] <Linux_Galore> os2mac: imagine your complaining to the solar power makers about the coal burning generators, very little the solar guys can do
[08:10] <stacy_> hello again
[08:12] <stacy_> E[m] ess i am still having no luck at all getting the flashplayer installed can you please help me out
[08:13] <stacy_> how do i become a registered user for this chat
[08:14] <sadistic_kitten> uh hi ppl
[08:14] <sadistic_kitten> how would I go about upgrading from dapper to edgy, with-out dled a cd and re-installing?
[08:14] <stacy_> hi
[08:17] <Kiongku> !upgrade
[08:17] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:17] <Kiongku> !edgy | sadistic_kitten
[08:17] <ubotu> sadistic_kitten: Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[08:17] <Kiongku> what suit u best
[08:18] <Kiongku> but be rdy for any errors
[08:18] <sredna> Can anyone tell me where to find instructions for installing kde4? Apt-get appears to give up!
[08:19] <sadistic_kitten> ty Kiongku
[08:19] <Kiongku> hmm
[08:20] <Kiongku> well anyway the supported version right now is 3.5.5.. so dunt think apt-get will like it
[08:20] <K`zan> Success!
[08:20] <Jucato> sredna: kde4 isn't out yet. unless you want to develop for KDE 4, the kde4 packages that were released for Kubuntu last month is basically useless for end-users
[08:20] <sredna> Jucato: I freakin' klnow that
[08:20] <K`zan> Now, how do I turn this into kubuntu?  apt-get install kde ?
[08:21] <sredna> I am a kde developer, Jucato
[08:21] <Kiongku> hey Jucato
[08:21] <Jucato> sredna: lol sorry :)
[08:21] <sredna> My usual way is to compile everything, but I'd like to avoid that
[08:21] <Kiongku> know a way to compile the current packages installed on adept?
[08:21] <Kiongku> i mean compile a list
[08:21] <Jucato> sredna: pardon someone who just got up from bed... :)
[08:21] <sredna> Since this box is an old POS
[08:21] <sredna> Jucato: Np :)
[08:22] <flaccid> so which style/theme do i select for kubuntu edgy?
[08:22] <sredna> But if you do know, I'd be happy if you'd tell me, since I'm relatively new to debian
[08:22] <Jucato> sredna: this is the only link I have about KDE 4 for Kubuntu: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php
[08:22] <sredna> Thanks :)
[08:22] <Jucato> sredna: and you might have more luck asking in #kubuntu-devel
[08:22] <Homer> KDE4 is out?1
[08:22] <Kiongku> no homer
[08:22] <Kiongku> only dev.
[08:23] <Jucato> Homer: no. development packages only
[08:23] <sredna> Ah, there is such a channel, I did not notice that :\
[08:23] <Jucato> sredna: :)
[08:23] <flaccid> hmm don't know what theme edgy uses
[08:23] <Jucato> flaccid: which one exactly?
[08:23] <flaccid> the new one
[08:24] <K`zan> install and remove doesn't seem to have kde in it other than kde apps?!?
[08:24] <Jucato> Windeco = Crystal, Colors = kubuntuColors (but it doesn't have a name in Edgy if you upgraded/installed), Style = Plastik
[08:25] <Kiongku> Jucato: what does the option save markings used for in synaptic? any idea/
[08:25] <Jucato> Kiongku: what it's used for?
[08:25] <flaccid> i want to use the new theme: http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php?linux_distribution=Kubuntu%206.10
[08:25] <Kiongku> yah whats the purpose?..
[08:25] <Kiongku> i haev no idea what the markings in there means
[08:25] <emonkey> Gooooooood morning 3kubuntu
[08:26] <Jucato> flaccid: what else do you need? I gave some of the stuff already
[08:26] <flaccid> Jucato: the actual theme/style to apply to look like ^^
[08:26] <Jucato> flaccid: Style = Plastik. Kubuntu doesn't make use of .kth stuff
[08:27] <flaccid> plastic does not look like the above screenshot
[08:27] <K`zan> How do I turn ubuntu amd64 into kubuntu folks, I had to use the alternate install which there wasn't a kubuntu for and I don't see kde in add/remove - just kde apps ?!?!?!?!???  TIA!
[08:27] <Jucato> Kiongku: hold on. I'm looking for an ancient post of mine
[08:28] <flaccid> ah its Crystal i believe
[08:28] <Jucato> flaccid: that is definitely Plastik (widget Style)
[08:28] <Jucato> flaccid: Crystal is a window deco (if you scroll above)
[08:28] <lnxkde> K`zan:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:28] <flaccid> basically for users that upgrade and won't the look of the screenshots... what is needed to change. first thing is crystal window decoration
[08:29] <Jucato> flaccid: ok I'll go over it one by one...
[08:29] <Jucato> Kiongku: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=141409
[08:29] <K`zan> lnxkde, Thanks!
[08:29] <lnxkde> K`zan: np
[08:29] <flaccid> now the color of the title bar
[08:29] <stacy_> where is the plugin dierctory for firefox found
[08:29] <Jucato> flaccid: Window Decoration: Crystal
[08:29] <lnxkde> flaccid: http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/825/lnxkdekdepd2.png
[08:29] <Jucato> flaccid: Color scheme, the file name is kubuntuColors.kcsrc
[08:29] <stacy_> or can i use the konsole program to install plugins
[08:30] <stacy_> ????
[08:30] <dude_> jucato ! flaccid !
[08:30] <Jucato> hi dude_
[08:30] <flaccid> heya
[08:30] <Kiongku> hmm not helpful feature in my case
[08:30] <Jucato> flaccid: it should be in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings
[08:30] <flaccid> Jucato: thanks mate. but how do i get the color scheme
[08:30] <s> hello i need some help. I've just changed from gnome to kde and i don't know how to activate repositories in kde. please help me
[08:30] <stacy_> ok thanks
[08:30] <Kiongku> OK.. everybody see ya.. making the hope to edgy.. hope can see everyone back soon
[08:31] <Delph_nz> s: you want to apt-get install synaptic
[08:31] <flaccid> ah thats the whole skel
[08:31] <Jucato> flaccid: the thing is, if you upgraded with your settings intact, the kubuntu-default-settings don't kick in. you might find the color scheme file in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings
[08:31] <Delph_nz> you can then add the repositories from the menus in there
[08:31] <s> but where?
[08:31] <Delph_nz> from konsole
[08:31] <stacy_> can anyone help me please
[08:32] <s> how? i did sudo gedit.... in gnome but it doesnt work in kde
[08:32] <Delph_nz> open a console, and then type "sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[08:32] <stacy_> i really want to get this installed tonight i am doing the flashplayer install or trying
[08:32] <dude_> is it safe to install beryl?
[08:32] <Linux_Galore> s duh  gedit is gnome apps
[08:32] <Jucato> flaccid: the wallpaper would be named kubuntu-wallpaper.png. I'm guessing you can access that normally from the configure Desktop settings
[08:32] <s> but is there a think like synaptic for kde?
[08:32] <s> i meant thing
[08:32] <Delph_nz> synaptic works in kde :)
[08:33] <Delph_nz> stacy_: what problems are you having?
[08:33] <Linux_Galore> s: just run adept
[08:33] <Jucato> s: it's called Adept Manager (in Kubuntu)
[08:33] <Delph_nz> I still prefer synaptic over adept
[08:33] <stacy_> all kinds i have no idea how to actually do this at all
[08:33] <stacy_> my adept is not working
[08:33] <Linux_Galore> s: if you want to edit your sources list adept can do that
[08:33] <E[m] ess> oh wb stacy, did you figure out why adept wasnt there?
[08:34] <stacy_> no i still havent figured it out
[08:34] <Linux_Galore> stacy_: type  apt-get update && dpkg --configure -a
[08:34] <eric> ??
[08:34] <stacy_> i installed it earlier and it keeps telling me that its not there when i know i put it in
[08:34] <dude_> is it safe to install beryl?
[08:34] <s> linux_galore: how? i cant find where to add repostories in there?
[08:34] <Jucato> Kiongku: was I able to indirectly answer your question about Save Markings?
[08:34] <Linux_Galore> stacy_: type  sorry  sudo apt-get update && dpkg --configure -a
[08:34] <Linux_Galore> s: under view
[08:35] <s> ok
[08:35] <Linux_Galore> s: view -> manage repo
[08:35] <eric> 
[08:35] <E[m] ess> dude_: i have beryl, but window effects arent workin, but i suppose its safe
[08:35] <stacy_> it says requested operation requires superuser privilege
[08:36] <Linux_Galore> stacy_: type  sorry  sudo apt-get update && dpkg --configure -a
[08:36] <stacy_> how do i make superuser privilages
[08:36] <Jucato> sudo for command line, kdesu to launch GUI apps
[08:36] <E[m] ess> stacy_:  sudo=superuser
[08:36] <Kiongku> Jucato: yah.. though it is not of any use for me right now.. k c ya in edgy next time.
[08:36] <E[m] ess> or for gui use kdesu
[08:36] <Kiongku> Good bye Dapper Drake..
[08:37] <Jucato> Kiongku: hehehe! see you at the edge! :)
[08:37] <Kiongku> yup
[08:37] <stacy_> bash: udo: command not found
[08:38] <s> linux_galore: got it.. thanks man
[08:38] <eric> hello Guy`~
[08:38] <Linux_Galore> stacy_: type  just so the spaces are more obvious   sudo   apt-get  update  &&   dpkg  --configure  -a
[08:38] <Jucato> stacy_: sudo
[08:38] <stacy_> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[08:38] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: you forgot the second sudo :)
[08:39] <Linux_Galore> hmm bugger you need it twice
[08:39] <Jucato> stacy_: "sudo apt-get update && sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[08:39] <stacy_> stacy@scarlett:~$ sudo
[08:39] <stacy_> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[08:39] <stacy_> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[08:39] <stacy_>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[08:39] <Jucato> stacy_: please don't flood
[08:39] <E[m] ess> stacy_: if it says you need superuser, do teh command again but before it have sudo
[08:39] <Linux_Galore> stacy_: sudo   apt-get  update  &&  sudo   dpkg  --configure  -a
[08:39] <eric> 
[08:39] <flaccid> nearly done jucato
[08:40] <stacy_> now it says done
[08:40] <Jucato> flaccid: anything else you need? configuring the Crystal window deco is a bit tricky though...
[08:40] <stacy_> reading package lists done
[08:40] <stacy_> so now what lol
[08:40] <flaccid> Jucato: thats about it thanks
[08:40] <Linux_Galore> stacy_: type  sudo  adept
[08:40] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: kdesu adept, please :)
[08:40] <stacy_> failed to open device
[08:41] <stacy_> wow i think its doing it now
[08:41] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: I would accept kdesu mucks up every now and again
[08:42] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: usually if run from CLI, it doesn't. but using sudo for GUI has even worse possible consequences than kdesu fscking around
[08:42] <Chris7mas> hi all
[08:42] <flaccid> firefox 2 seems faster
[08:42] <Chris7mas> anybody knows how to display romanian fonts () properly in konqueror? using kubuntu 6.06.1 and kde 3.5.2
[08:42] <Delph_nz> hey Chris7mas
[08:43] <flaccid> bbs
[08:43] <Delph_nz> sorry no idea Chris7
[08:44] <Chris7mas> i tried different encoding options, including utf8 and still it displays them as rectangles
[08:44] <Chris7mas> on firefox however it works, with encoding set to automatic
[08:44] <Linux_Galore> well the dapper-> edgy update went ok i only have one bug and that is the adept updater wont install kompile and xorg packages because it will break my install
[08:44] <Linux_Galore> funny though Xorg works fine lol
[08:45] <s> what's the equivalent of gedit in KDE?
[08:45] <Chris7mas> kate
[08:45] <Linux_Galore> and I dont have the xorg package installed either
[08:46] <Chris7mas> kate (kde advanced text editor) and it's very powerful
[08:46] <Linux_Galore> kedit if you have it installed is easy
[08:46] <s> thanks. I thought you were talking to someone when you type KATE
[08:46] <Chris7mas> :))
[08:46] <Chris7mas> no problem
[08:46] <s> so kedit
[08:46] <Linux_Galore> <- vim junky
[08:47] <Chris7mas> i can't understand that program :)
[08:47] <Chris7mas> im used to nano in cli
[08:47] <Linux_Galore> Im an old Unix guy so vim is second nature
[08:47] <Chris7mas> im kind of new (more than 6 months without windows)
[08:48] <Linux_Galore> Chris7mas: try using those when X is broken or your on a server with no x server installed
[08:48] <Chris7mas> nano does its job
[08:48] <Chris7mas> i only edit the sources.list and xorg.conf files, but very rare
[08:48] <Linux_Galore> Chris7mas: always good to learn vim because if Xorg stuffs up on an update you will need it
[08:49] <Chris7mas> thanks for the tip :)
[08:49] <msl> Linux_Galore: he could still use nano just fine
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> msl: Ive never used nano so I wouldnt know
[08:50] <msl> It's basically the same as pico, which you may be familiar with
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> aah
[08:51] <Linux_Galore> msl: not as nasty as joe though
[08:51] <msl> I've never used joe, and only used nano and pico sparingly.
[08:51] <flaccid> how to configure edgy so boot splash also shows cli output?
[08:51] <Linux_Galore> vim to joe  is like comparing osx to dos
[08:51] <msl> vim for me
[08:51] <flaccid> the boot messages
[08:52] <flaccid> joe for me
[08:52] <xsacha> vim for me
[08:52] <Linux_Galore> joe if you like minimalism at its extreme heh heh
[08:53] <Linux_Galore> I got stuck with a dec machine with joe once, took me ages to figure it out
[08:55] <Linux_Galore> although I found updating from dapper -> edgy a pain Im very happy with the results
[08:55] <K`zan> v /etc/fstab
[08:56] <K`zan> How do I get ubuntu to quit looking on the CD for stuff under kde?
[08:56] <Jucato> K`zan: when does it do this?
[08:57] <K`zan> Jucato, So far every time I apt-get something.
[08:57] <K`zan> kde, portmap
[08:57] <Jucato> K`zan: remove/disable the deb cdrom: from your sources.list
[08:58] <K`zan> Jucato, thanks.
[08:58] <arejaytee> ok ive got a 30gig drive(27gig), im thinking 2 5gig partitions for linux and xp, 2 1gig partitions for each os swap file location and then 15 gig for data storage! make sense to everyone?
[08:59] <Dasnipa> you dont need 1 gig swaps
[09:00] <Dasnipa> and by 'data storage' do you mean formatting to fat32 for use in both *nix and winblows?
[09:02] <yonkeltron> why was i unable to format my / as xfs?
[09:02] <yonkeltron> debian lets me do it just fine
[09:02] <arejaytee> yeah Dasnipa
[09:03] <arejaytee> u dont recommend the swap drives?
[09:04] <Dasnipa> arejaytee, well i think xp handles swap differently, doesnt have a set aside partition for it. and linux 1 gig is probably fine, though slightly large
[09:04] <arejaytee> u can set the partition location for xp through control panel
[09:04] <arejaytee> for swap file
[09:05] <Dasnipa> yeah but it only uses it as necessary so you dont have to have a drive set aside for just that
[09:09] <K`zan> Should I be using adept or synaptic for package management or does it matter?
[09:10] <Jucato> K`zan: doesn't matter. use whatever you like :)
[09:10] <K`zan> Jucato: Thank you Sir.  Much missing at the moment :-).  The new firefox (as usual) hoses a lot of my extensions :-).
[09:11] <Jucato> K`zan: yeah. the extension developers need to catch up :)
[09:11] <K`zan> Hummm, adept doesn't seem to find squid.
[09:12] <Jucato> Adept Manager?
[09:12] <Jucato> or the Add/Remove Programs?
[09:13] <Jucato> K`zan: it should be there. make sure that your "main" respository is enabled
[09:13] <K`zan> No results, perhaps I should put the CD back in for now.
[09:14] <K`zan> looks like adept is just for window manager stuff.
[09:14] <Jucato> K`zan: like I said, make sure that your "main" repo is enabled in your sources.list
[09:14] <Jucato> no it's not
[09:14] <K`zan> Jucato: checking...
[09:16] <juraj> can anybody help me with wine + strong dc++ ?
[09:16] <xsacha> gah what's it called when everything is the same... uniform.. it's a good word.. umm
[09:17] <xsacha> there are native versions of dc++, why use a windows version?
[09:17] <K`zan> looks like software sources isn't there, will manually edit sources.list
[09:17] <juraj> what native versions? I have tried over 10 clients, but I am not very happy
[09:18] <xsacha> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=DC++
[09:18] <xsacha> yeah there's 10 in the links, you didnt like any of them? :(
[09:19] <juraj> Yes, but there are only few apps and they have not multisegment downloads
[09:20] <slime> how to config kde not to save session settings?
 Sorry, I am new on Linux
[09:21] <Jucato> slime: System Settings -> Session Manager
[09:21] <Jucato> slime: are you on Dapper or Edgy?
[09:22] <slime> dapper
[09:22] <slime> Jucato: no more on dapper
[09:22] <K`zan> Jucato: That did it, thank you!
[09:23] <Jucato> K`zan: you're welcome
[09:23] <juraj> I have move to Linux, but only one program is still missing: Direct Connect
[09:23] <Jucato> slime: have you found Session Manager in System Settings? I can't remember where it is (I'm on Edgy)
[09:24] <xsacha> juraj: you're sure none of them have multi segment downloads? :( i'm sure there's a lot, tried searching google for multi segment DC linux or something?
[09:24] <Jucato> slime: I think it's in System Settings -> KDE Components -> Session Manager
[09:25] <juraj> xsacha: True is, that I have tried something, but I have problems with install it
[09:25] <slime> Jucato: still looking i am on kde 3.5
[09:25] <slime> Jucato: still looking i am on kde 3.5.2
[09:26] <Jucato> slime: yes it should be there, no matter what KDE version, as long as it's Dapper...
[09:26] <xsacha> juraj: installing the linux versions? when you find one, search adept to make sure it's not already in repository
[09:26] <juraj> xsacha:Have you any practice with wine? Or, I can give you my IP, and when you can me install some DC client...
[09:26] <xsacha> could just get it from thee
[09:26] <slime> Jucato: thx
[09:26] <slime> got it'
[09:27] <juraj> xsacha: I have installed all from repository
[09:27] <Jucato> slime: err.. sorry. under User Account?
[09:27] <xsacha> i use wine a lot, what problem are you having with it
[09:28] <frankkm> I have just downloaded the newest version of Kubuntu and installed it, bur adept wont full upgrade my packages, what should I do?
[09:28] <slime> Jucato: found it, it's just like you said. system settings>kde comp>ses man
[09:28] <Jucato> slime: aah nice :)
[09:29] <juraj> xsacha: All from repository with DC of course :) Why my changes on StrongDC++ are in terminal marked with permissions denied?
[09:29] <juraj> xsacha: when I have quit wine, all my changes are out
[09:29] <xsacha> try using sudo in terminal juraj, or change the user from root to your login
[09:30] <xsacha> where is your drive_c for wine? it should be in your user directory
[09:30] <xsacha> like: /home/juraj/.wine/drive_c
[09:31] <juraj> xsacha: I am not root default?
[09:31] <xsacha> no
[09:31] <juraj> why? I have Efty, i have read somewhere, that I am root... Bad article mybe
[09:32] <xsacha> root has no password by default, so you cant use it -- to have root privileges you must run commands with sudo
[09:32] <Jucato> !sudo
[09:32] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:32] <Jucato> gah reflex action....
[09:32] <juraj> So what can I do: sudo wine ... ?
[09:33] <xsacha> yes, but you shouldnt have to, where is your wine's drive_c
[09:33] <xsacha> try: winecfg to set up wine if you haven't already
[09:33] <juraj> ok, I try it
[09:34] <ccomp5950> juraj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:34] <Brydenn33> anyone here know how to use Kismet?
[09:34] <ccomp5950> (ok how do you see all those commands jucato?)
[09:34] <Emess> Brydenn33: for legal things only :P
[09:35] <Brydenn33> of course Emess
[09:35] <Brydenn33> lol
[09:35] <Jucato> ccomp5950: the bot
[09:35] <Brydenn33> help me please :)
[09:35] <Brydenn33> i'm just trying to get it to work with my network card
[09:35] <Brydenn33> so nothing bad
[09:35] <Jucato> ccomp5950: memorized a few... force of habit...
[09:35] <Emess> command or gui? iv never used the gui
[09:35] <Brydenn33> i have a D-Link DWL-G520
[09:35] <juraj> xsacha: when you mean this, I have wine's drive_c on C:
[09:35] <ccomp5950> jucato: they aren't listed anywhere?
[09:35] <Brydenn33> uhm i dunno
[09:35] <Brydenn33> i just installed the version that adept-manager has
[09:36] <Brydenn33> i think its command
[09:36] <Brydenn33> but isnt the gui like a command line gui anyway?
[09:36] <Jucato> ccomp5950: um.. not that I know of...
[09:36] <Jucato> !ubotu | ccomp5950
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ccomp5950 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <Brydenn33> i've only seen a few screenshots... its not fancy
[09:36] <xsacha> juraj: you have drive_c attached to an actual partition instead of a directory inside /home/..?
[09:36] <Jucato> ccomp5950: http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <xsacha> juraj: your windows partiton -- an NTFS?
[09:37] <juraj> xsacha: yes
[09:37] <frankkm> edgy rules!
[09:37] <Brydenn33> Emess: ?
[09:37] <xsacha> gah! well i dont think you can write to it, atleast not very well
[09:38] <Emess> sorry Brydenn33, im really not the person to ask about it
[09:38] <xsacha> if you want your changes to be saved, use a different drive_c in your user directory juraj -- writing to NTFS isnt very good
[09:38] <Brydenn33> well don't be so sure
[09:38] <Brydenn33> like i said, all i'm trying to do is get it working lol
[09:38] <Brydenn33> i believe you have to edit the kismet.conf right?
[09:39] <Emess> no idea, it comes preinstalled with my distro
[09:39] <K`zan> my color depth is hosed, where is that set here?
[09:39] <Brydenn33> what distro do you have?
[09:39] <juraj> Ok, but I must have Windows installation there in new location?
[09:39] <K`zan> 6.10 ubuntu
[09:39] <juraj> I have all my partitions NTFS
[09:39] <xsacha> K`zan: /etc/X11/xorg.conf  in Screen section, :  DefaultDepth 24
[09:40] <K`zan> xsacha: Thanks, checking.  May need the nvidia drivers, not sure yet.
[09:41] <slime> how do i remote into kubuntu?  rdp?
[09:41] <K`zan> xsacha: it is 24, sigh, backgrounds are pixilated which I didn't have under gentoo with the nvidia drivers.
[09:41] <xsacha> :(
[09:42] <heinkel_111> slime.... ssh?
[09:42] <juraj> xsacha: how i can quit from wine? in terminal are still running commands
[09:42] <slime> heinkel_111: no, i mean the graphical one
[09:43] <Jucato> kdrc krdp?
[09:43] <heinkel_111> ssh -X
[09:43] <xsacha> juraj: ctrl+c to kill an application in konsole
[09:43] <heinkel_111> or the alternatives suggested by Jucato if you want a full remote desktop
[09:43] <Jucato> @_@
[09:44] <xsacha> juraj: your linux filesystem isnt NTFS, you can use that to write to -- what you are on right now :P use drive_c in there
[09:44] <juraj> xsacha: it hangs?
[09:44] <rangerman> Hey guys, I run kubuntu, and wanted to install unrar progra - it doesn't seem to exist in the respositories, I know on debian it comes under the non-free software repo, what about kubuntu?
[09:44] <xsacha> you killed it with ctrl+c?
[09:44] <juraj> xsacha: yes, but why... It can't quit correctly?
[09:45] <slime> heinkel_111: ?? i did ssh -X name@ip.address, i just get normal shell
[09:45] <xsacha> perhaps, -- it didnt handle the windows program quitting properly
[09:46] <chupa> rangerman, i have just installed it an hour ago
[09:46] <Flosoft> hey
[09:46] <K`zan> Yep, looks like I am going to need the real nvidia drivers :-(.
[09:46] <drhouse_> hello. for a amd athlon is better a generic kernel o a 386 one?
[09:46] <rangerman> chupa, what repos are you using?
[09:47] <K`zan> Will dig back into this when I get up.  Thanks for all the help tonight, MUCH appreciated.
[09:47] <K`zan> Night all.
[09:47] <chupa> rangerman, main restricted universe multiverse and backports
[09:48] <rangerman> chupa, I have all of them, yet when I try to install I get this:
[09:48] <rangerman> root@eloise:~# apt-get install unrar
[09:48] <rangerman> Reading package lists... Done
[09:48] <rangerman> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:48] <rangerman> Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:48] <rangerman> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:48] <rangerman> is only available from another source
[09:49] <rangerman> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[09:49] <rangerman> root@eloise:~#
[09:49] <slime> nice going rangerman
[09:49] <rangerman> Same thing for 'rar' :/
[09:49] <juraj> xsacha: thank you, I have changed my drive_c to home and it works properly... Last ask (maybe:) : are you using some native DC clients?
[09:49] <Jucato> rangerman: please make sure "multiverse" is enabled
[09:50] <rangerman> It is
[09:50] <chupa> rangerman, edgy or dapper?
[09:50] <Jucato> rangerman: are you sure it's the correct multiverse? it shouldn't be the one with dapper-backports or edgy-backports
[09:50] <rangerman> dapper
[09:51] <rangerman> deb http://195.248.90.54/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:51] <rangerman>  deb-src http://195.248.90.54/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:51] <rangerman> What one do I need?
[09:51] <slime> how do i install firefox 2.0?
[09:51] <slime> on dapper
[09:51] <Jucato> rangerman: not that one
[09:51] <rangerman> hrm, can you paste me them then, as I don't have them?"
[09:52] <Jucato> rangerman: that has "deb htpp://blahblah/ubuntu/ dapper universe" add multiverse to that
[09:53] <rangerman> Thank you.
[09:53] <ironfroggy> what repo do i need for the unrar tool?
[09:53] <rangerman> read up
[09:53] <ironfroggy> why backports?
[09:53] <rangerman> multiverse you fool, who said anything about backports.
[09:54] <ironfroggy> you did
[09:54] <Jucato> ironfroggy: not backports
[09:54] <Jucato> ironfroggy: "deb htpp://blahblahblah.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe" add "multiverse" at the end. substitute with "edgy" if you're on Edgy
[09:55] <DjDarkman> hy ,can someone tell me what is the ubuntu hardware database?
[09:55] <flo-_-> how can i make kopete keep the layout of the tabs(windows) when i change betwin chat tabs or even restart the aplication?
[09:55] <ironfroggy> Jucato: do ineed to do something then so apt sees that change?
[09:55] <Jucato> !multiverse > ironfroggy
[09:56] <ubuntu_> using Kubuntu live disc
[09:56] <ubuntu_> getting error
[09:57] <drhouse_> hello. for a amd athlon(k7) is better a generic kernel o a 386 one?
[09:57] <n3storm> hi
[09:57] <ubuntu_> anyone know what error: Critical  error ped_disc_duplicated!
[09:57] <heinkel_111> drhouse: depends on if you want 64 bit or 32 bit I guess
[09:58] <ubuntu_> i get this during partition stage of installation with kubuntu live disc
[09:58] <drhouse_> 32
[09:58] <ironfroggy> Jucato: that doesnt help me. i cant run adept, im ssh'ed in.
[09:59] <ironfroggy> Jucato: ive added multiverse to the appropriate line in /etc/apt/sources.list tho.
[09:59] <Jucato> ironfroggy: ah. well you need to edit sources.list, then sudo apt-get update, then install unrar
[09:59] <ubuntu_> how do i change nick?
[09:59] <esben> ironfroggy: adept runs fine over ssh -X
[09:59] <esben> ubuntu: /nick newnick
[09:59] <esben> I think
[09:59] <ironfroggy> esben: its not installed on the box
[09:59] <slime> how do i play movie.avi?
[10:00] <slime> which app and which encoder>
[10:00] <slime> ?
[10:00] <esben> ironfroggy: Well, then either use apt-get and friends directly
[10:00] <Jucato> slime: libxine-extracodecs
[10:00] <esben> ironfroggy: or install it :)
[10:00] <ironfroggy> slime: you mean codec? depends on the codec. avi is not a codec.
[10:00] <esben> anyone here managed to get SASL, postfix and postgresql to work together for SMTP authentication?
[10:00] <livingdaylight> anyone understand error message: critical error during ped_disc_duplicated
[10:00] <slime> ironfroggy: i want to play movie.avi
[10:01] <ironfroggy> slime: so open kaffiene
[10:01] <slime> Jucato: i already installed libxine-...
[10:01] <livingdaylight> ping Momal
[10:01] <Jucato> slime: absolutely, positively sure?
[10:02] <pielgrzym> dear Edgy users - did anyone have a similar crash to mine: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/69007
[10:02] <pielgrzym> this is a real problem
[10:02] <slime> adept manager said so, Jucato
[10:02] <Jucato> slime: then it should play fine in Kaffeine
[10:03] <slime> Jucato: yes, it plays but no picture, only sound
[10:03] <Jucato> hm...
[10:03] <xsacha> anyone here running Kubuntu Feisty Fawn?
[10:03] <Jucato> xsacha: how will that be possible?
[10:03] <Jucato> :P
[10:03] <pielgrzym> Feisty? Is there a beta already??
[10:03] <xsacha> a developer working on it maybe?
[10:03] <Jucato> it's not even opened/started yet
[10:03] <Jucato> :)
[10:03] <livingdaylight> momal: its not accepting my password so i can't pm
[10:03] <xsacha> slackers
[10:03] <pielgrzym> dear Edgy users - did anyone have a similar crash to mine: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/69007
[10:04] <Jucato> O_O
[10:04] <momal> livingdaylight: Ahh i see :p
[10:04] <mulder> Morning all
[10:04] <livingdaylight> momal: getting error message during kubuntu install
[10:04] <slime> how can i remote into kde? or gnome?
[10:04] <momal> what kinda error ?
[10:04] <xsacha> slime: ssh ?
[10:04] <livingdaylight> do you know what error during ped_disc_duplicated means?
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone!
[10:04] <mulder> I need some help with my audigy 2 zs and my logitech webcam.
[10:04] <slime> xsacha: ssh -X has no GUI picture
[10:05] <livingdaylight> Anyone know what ped_disc_duplicated could mean?
[10:05] <livingdaylight> what is a ped_disc?
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> It's almost perfect, except that I can only get the active window on top by clicking on the title bar...
[10:05] <xsacha> slime: xinetd vnc?
[10:05] <livingdaylight> getting this error during kbuntu installation phase of partitioning
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Any way I can get it on top by clicking anywhere on it?
[10:06] <xsacha> slime: vino vnc?
[10:06] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: click to focus?
[10:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: Can you be a little more descriptive? I am using a localised KDE...
[10:08] <slime> xsacha: i have to run a daemon on remote server first?
[10:08] <livingdaylight> Jucato: do you know what a ped_disc is?
[10:08] <Emess> hey MilhousePunkRock, you know if its possible to use xorg 7.1.1 on dapper?
[10:08] <xsacha> slime: yes
[10:08] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: well I was just wondering, because I can click on any part of a window to raise it... are you on Dapper or Edgy?
[10:08] <Jucato> livingdaylight: sorry, nope...
[10:08] <livingdaylight> Anyone know what a ped_disc is?!
[10:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Emess: Don't know, sorry
[10:08] <xsacha> same as ssh
[10:08] <Emess> :(
[10:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: Edgy
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Or even more important: KDE 3.5.5
[10:09] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: hm.. in System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Focus tab, is your policy set to Click to Focus?
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: That's the downside of my German KDE now... it's on "Focus on mouse contact" (the 2nd option from the top)
[10:10] <slime> xsacha: i have vino installed
[10:10] <Emess> mmm is it safe to upgrade to edgy? or is edgy actually called that and is fully finished and no longer RC?
[10:10] <xsacha> slime: good, try that? :) uses vnc
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Emess: Edgy has been released stable last thursday
[10:10] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: hm.. on my system, Click to Focus is the first one form the top.
[10:10] <jiger> Help!! I am unable to boot into kubuntu edgy after upgrade from dapper
[10:11] <Emess> so its actually called edgy? i thought edgy jsut meant the latest rc
[10:11] <Jucato> Emess: Edgy Eft is the name. alpha,beta, rc, or stable :)
[10:11] <Emess> jiger jsut confirmed my fears :P
[10:11] <xsacha> yes it's same is edgy and it was released a couple of days ago :)
[10:11] <slime> xsacha: vncviewer ip.address?
[10:11] <Emess> oh ok, i thought it was short for vutting edge or something
[10:11] <xsacha> Emess: next version is called Feisty :P
[10:11] <Emess> lol
[10:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: Well, but that takes away focussing the window on mouse over... Which I would like to have, and bring the window to the front by clicking
[10:11] <Jucato> Emess: well, in a sense, yes
[10:11] <xsacha> slime: use --help or man if unsure, i have not used it
[10:12] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: focus follows mouse is bugged in KDE 3.5.5 afaik
[10:12] <Jucato> click to focus is the only one that works properly iirc
[10:12] <Emess> mmm so how do i upgrade to edgy with the elast amount o pain?
[10:12] <slime> xsacha: will the guy on the server side see what i am doing on the desktop? since this is vnc?
[10:12] <Jucato> !upgrade | Emess
[10:12] <ubotu> Emess: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:13] <xsacha> slime: i'm unsure about the implementation
[10:13] <ccomp5950> slime: if you have it setup where you still have control of the cursor and keyboard and he has "render cursor" turned on he should be able to see your mouse movements.
[10:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: I used to have focus on mouse over, but that was a little weird when I have, let's say, a kopete window in the top left corner, and I was clicking on Kopete in the task bar, i had to be quick to not lose the focus on, let's say, a fullscreen firefox window behind it...
[10:14] <MilhousePunkRock> If that makes any sense to you, Jucato
[10:14] <Jucato> yes. I've tried it once
[10:14] <MilhousePunkRock> maybe I should hop over to #kde and ask there...
[10:15] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: have you tried #kubuntu-de?
[10:15] <Jucato> !de
[10:15] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:15] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: Well, I used to be regular there, but the people are kinda weird
[10:16] <Jucato> heh
[10:16] <MilhousePunkRock> So I rather stick to the global channel, as my english in general is sufficient
[10:16] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: btw, do your windows flicker?
[10:16] <MilhousePunkRock> no
[10:16] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135250 might be of interest
[10:16] <MilhousePunkRock> My whole screen flickers a little while the battery is loading, but I rather blame that on my laptop itself
[10:17] <Jucato> I think that only Click to Focus works properly now...
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: Hmm, I did not have flickering when I had Focus on mouse over
[10:18] <momal> I have warty warthog and want to upgrade to edgy how do i go about it :p jokes!
[10:18] <Jucato> lol
[10:18] <mulder> Anybody can help me with my Audigy 2 ZS sound card please, as well as my logitech webcam, and Canon MP130 Pixma printer?
[10:18] <Jucato> momal: reinstall heheh! :)
[10:18] <momal> hehe
[10:19] <mulder> I have been struggling with that, the rest works all fine.
[10:19] <MilhousePunkRock> mulder: Will something else be added the next time you ask? ;-)
[10:19] <gsuveg> re
[10:19] <mulder> Sorry if this is too much Milhouse :-(
[10:19] <n3storm> edgy cannot handle a sata disk?
[10:19] <n3storm> I have a shuttle barebone
[10:20] <DjDarkman> where can I get information on installing XGL?
[10:20] <mulder> These are the only things left for me to get rid of windows once for all!
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> mulder: I can't help you with that anyway, since I don't have any of these gadgets... But the first time you asked the printer was not there...
[10:20] <slime> how to check if vino is running?
[10:20] <fdoving> !xgl | djdarkman
[10:20] <ubotu> djdarkman: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:20] <mulder> Yes I know, I thought I could find the drivers..but alas no!
[10:21] <MilhousePunkRock> mulder: Did you check the wiki for a similar model?
[10:21] <mulder> I checked on google and stuff
[10:22] <MilhousePunkRock> mulder: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/CanonPixmaIP4200?highlight=%28canon%29
[10:23] <MilhousePunkRock> But you have probably already read that, haven't you, mulder... ;-)
[10:23] <honza__> hello
[10:23] <honza__> I've got a question...
[10:24] <honza__> how can I upgrate my kubuntu 6.06. to 6.10?
[10:24] <mulder> Not to the full kind sir. I heard that the MP130 can use the IP5000 drivers
[10:24] <jiger> does anyone know what the following means?
[10:24] <jiger> Begin: Initializing /dev
[10:24] <jiger> /init: 76: Syntax error: 0xID=cb5f831d-0219-4c7c-be23-b954444575fb
[10:24] <jiger> kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[10:24] <fdoving> !upgrade | honza__
[10:24] <ubotu> honza__: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:24] <Jucato> fdoving: you beat me to it :)
[10:24] <fdoving> Jucato :)
[10:24] <Jucato> fdoving: btw, has anyone ever teased you with "Frodo"?
[10:24] <Jucato> :P
[10:25] <honza__> thanks
[10:25] <fdoving> Jucato: heh.. i've heard it :)
[10:25] <Jucato> fdoving: sorry, I've been dying to ask you that :)
[10:26] <Brydenn33> fdoving: how do you link one file to another
[10:27] <Brydenn33> like i have a file that cant find another. but they are both there... how do i link?
[10:29] <honza__> I am using the vanilla kernel, 2.6.17, won't that be a problem for an upgrade to 6.10?
[10:29] <fdoving> Jucato: hehe, in Norway there was a kids tvprogram with a hippopotamus (in norwegian Flodhest) named 'Flode', i've heard more of that. :)
[10:30] <fdoving> Brydenn33: 'ln -s sourcefile linkname'
[10:30] <Jucato> fdoving: hahah
[10:31] <fdoving> Jucato: http://www.nrk.no/flode/ - now enought offtopic :)
[10:32] <Jucato> fdoving: heheh sorry bout that. just couldn't resist :P
[10:32] <Jucato> wth? that's a hippopotamus? oh well... Norwegian version of Barney the purple dino... :P
[10:33] <Brydenn33> blah i hate this
[10:33] <Brydenn33> ok i'm trying to figure out how to get Kismet working
[10:34] <Brydenn33> and its being a pain
[10:34] <honza__> when I do the apt-get dist-upgrade, won't that affect my own kernel, which I compiled extra?
[10:34] <fdoving> honza__: it would.
[10:35] <honza__> fdowing: It will kill it, or only add new boot options to menu.lst of the grub?
[10:35] <grindel> honza__ are you talking about upgradeing your system
[10:35] <fdoving> honza__: or, it will install new kernels, it won't remove the ones you have installed.
[10:35] <honza__> fdoving: Thanks, that's what i wanted to know :-)
[10:36] <grindel> i think it would simply install a new kernal and leave the old one as a boot option
[10:36] <honza__> grindel: That's what I thought, but I wasn't so sure.
[10:37] <honza__> Better do some backup...
[10:37] <grindel> i got a few questions
[10:37] <drumline_> backups are good for your sanity.
[10:37] <gsuveg> Riddell: are you online ?
[10:38] <slime> how to tell task bar not to group?
[10:39] <Jucato> slime: right-click on the taskbar, configure Panel -> Taskbar options
[10:42] <slime> Jucato: thx
[10:42] <grindel> jucato what version of kubuntu are you running
[10:42] <Jucato> grindel: Edgy
[10:42] <grindel> okay do you have xchat installed ??
[10:42] <Jucato> nope
[10:43] <grindel> you don't have to but pretend like your gonna install it using the apt software launched fro KDE not shell and tell me what version you have available
[10:44] <Jucato> grindel: I don't have to install it to know :)
[10:44] <Jucato> 2.6.6
[10:44] <grindel> should be two packages called "xchat-gnome" and "xchat-gnome-base"
[10:44] <grindel> i don't want you to knwo i would like if you looked
[10:45] <Jucato> hm... xchat-gnome doesn't use the base XChat?
[10:46] <livingdaylight> fd
[10:46] <grindel> well humm ahh let me reboot to kubuntu brb
[10:46] <Jucato> grindel: and btw, it's xchat-gnome-common
[10:46] <livingdaylight> fdoving: do you know what error during ped_disc_duplicated means?
[10:46] <livingdaylight> what is a ped_disc?
[10:46] <grindel> oh yeah that's wut i ment
[10:46] <Jucato> grindel: xchat = 2.6.6, xchat-gnome and xchat-gnome-common = 1:0.13
[10:47] <grindel> hummm okay brb
[10:48] <juraj> valknut users? When I want to connect, it have problem: Resolver Error. /etc/resolv.conf I have ok
[10:51] <juraj> xsacha: I am tired... It's seems to be problem with DC++ clients under Linux. Or I have can't to set up
[10:57] <grindel> you still her jucado
[10:57] <grindel> here**
[10:58] <grindel> how to i configure grubb it's not intalled on my mbr any more so i booted from the cd
[10:58] <grindel> i've only dealt with lilo
[10:58] <livingdaylight> So no one knows what a ped_disc is?
[10:59] <grindel> not sure why but it sound famillar
[11:00] <alex_> how to install a bootsplash screen like this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=46481 ? have i only to added the image. and wht is with the text??? the f2 option
[11:01] <proog> i upgraded from dapper to edgy by following the instructions in the release announcement, and now adept notifier keeps showing that there are 31 upgrades, even though it doesnt install them. what is the problem?
[11:01] <_Stev_> hi.. i need help installing kubutu
[11:02] <daseeb> hi... Ive got a problem with my scanner after upgrade to edgy. sane, xsane... when I click preview scan in xsane dialog scanenr stzarts scanning, but the image is not transferred to computer. xsane hangs
[11:02] <grindel> what kinda help
[11:02] <_Stev_> i'm at "Prepare mount points" step.. i configured it properly but it says "No root filesystem"
[11:02] <grindel> ahh i had that problem
[11:03] <grindel> your root mount point partition isn't formatted yet
[11:03] <_Stev_> assigned / to /dev/sda5 ... toher partitions swap to /dev/sda6
[11:03] <grindel> go back one step and tell it to format it
[11:03] <grindel> yeah
[11:03] <_Stev_> my root partition is an ext partition.. formatted with a broken linux isntall.. i selected "reformat"
[11:04] <gsuveg> any guidance guru here ?
[11:04] <apu> how can i downgrade a package?
[11:04] <Kiongku> sup i'm on the edge :p yay!
[11:05] <grindel> Stev you should go back to the previous screen whare your are setting up the partitions and format it from there
[11:05] <_Stev_> yeah.. thanks.. it's formatting
[11:05] <grindel> :)
[11:05] <grindel> apu wut do you mean downgrade
[11:05] <Jucato> apu: if you have the app installed and the update is available from the repositories, you'll be notified in your system tray.
[11:06] <grindel> yeah
[11:06] <_Stev_> ok, it worked :)
[11:06] <apu> okay i have the solution
[11:06] <apu> apt-get istnall app=ver
[11:07] <Kiongku> Jucato: hey i'm on the edge with u :p wanan jump?
[11:07] <grindel> i think he whant to do the opposit of upgrade though jucato
[11:07] <Jucato> grindel: ok.. he asked for upgrade so I presumed he meant upgrade :)
[11:07] <Jucato> er.. read wrong
[11:07] <Jucato> lol
[11:07] <Jucato> sorry apu :)
[11:07] <apu> i have messed the arts version with other repos, but sudo apt-get install arts=1.5.4-0ubuntu1 helped.
[11:07] <Jucato> Kiongku: ooo nice! welcome to the edge! :)
[11:07] <apu> np:)
 how can i downgrade a package?
[11:08] <Jucato> grindel: I already said sorry... :(
[11:08] <Kiongku> Jucato: hehe.. i got ehadaches to put my modem back but was faster this time
[11:08] <grindel> oh i didn't see sorry
[11:08] <Kiongku> *headaches
[11:08] <apu> ;)
[11:09] <grindel> can someone tell me how to reinitialize grub please... is it like lilo all i have to do is type grub at a bash prompt ??
[11:09] <Brydenn33> anyone here wifi?
[11:09] <Brydenn33> i need help
[11:09] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: ask ;)
[11:09] <grindel> err wifi bad
[11:09] <_Stev_> hem another problem.. i'm on a sata hd and have another p-ata hd, grub sees my p-ata as hd0 and sata as hd1, and so i have to change menu.lst after the isntall and at every update, ( https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/8497 )
[11:10] <gsuveg> grindel: why bad ?
[11:10] <Brydenn33> i'm trying to get my card working with Kismet
[11:10] <Brydenn33> and i dunno how to do it right i guess
[11:10] <grindel> bad hackers can use your network
[11:10] <gsuveg> right
[11:10] <Brydenn33> well if they do bad things like try and crack it
[11:10] <wrede> I HATE kwallet! Every time I start kmail it wants passwords and then when I close it there are further dialogs to this effect. How can Is sort out this problem once and for all?
[11:11] <Brydenn33> i live in an area that has FREE wifi hot spots
[11:11] <Brydenn33> not trying to hack anything guys
[11:11] <gsuveg> grindel: but hacker !/ cracker
[11:11] <MetaMorfoziS> where can i get mplayer? and mplayer-plugin for edgy?
[11:11] <Dannilion> Can someone tell me the line I need to stick into /s
[11:11] <MetaMorfoziS> only from source?
[11:11] <gsuveg> !=
[11:11] <grindel> you have a point gsuveg
[11:11] <Dannilion> Can someone tell me the line I need to stick into /etc/network/interfaces to get my wireless card to automatically connect to my router (ESSID)?
[11:11] <MetaMorfoziS> hy gsuveg:) J volt a tegnapi konf:)
[11:12] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: why do jo need kismet ?
[11:12] <gsuveg> MetaMorfoziS: szia ;)
[11:12] <Brydenn33> cuz i like it?
[11:12] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: u are the cracker in your area ?
[11:13] <Brydenn33> haha not by a long shot gsuveg
[11:13] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: u need pop3 pasword or what ?
[11:13] <gsuveg> MetaMorfoziS: melyik eladsokon voltal?
[11:13] <yohann> hi, does anyone has few minutes to help me configure pocket pc for kunbuntu ?
[11:13] <gsuveg> yohann: ask
[11:14] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: what isnt clear ?
[11:14] <Brydenn33> gsuveg:  no i dont need a pop3. i need to setup Kismet with my card
[11:14] <Brydenn33> well ok
[11:14] <Brydenn33> i have kismet installed
[11:14] <yohann> i ve add the rule BUS="usb", SYSFS{idProduct}="0a51", KERNEL="ttyUSB*", SYMLINK="smartphone"
[11:14] <Brydenn33> and i get an error when i run it
[11:14] <Brydenn33> let me paste it in pastebin for you
[11:14] <gsuveg> ok
[11:14] <MetaMorfoziS> gsuveg, ugye te voltal a grafikais elads? Amgy az sszes magyaron kivtel a kubuntus mukit:)
[11:14] <yohann> but when i test it, i have the error :
[11:14] <yohann> add_to_rules: invalid BUS operation
[11:14] <yohann> add_to_rules: invalid rule '/etc/udev/rules.d/10-smartphone.rules:1'
[11:14] <yohann> main: unable to open '/sys/class/tty/ttyUSB0/dev'
[11:14] <gsuveg> MetaMorfoziS: ye
[11:15] <Brydenn33> gsuveg: this is what i'm talking about... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29031/
[11:15] <MetaMorfoziS> tisztajvolt ltni ms megszllottakat:)
[11:15] <alex_> how to install a bootsplash screen like this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=46481 ? have i only to added the image. and wht is with the text??? the f2 option
[11:15] <gsuveg> MetaMorfoziS: csak nem volt oram :(
[11:15] <alex_> please help me :-(
[11:15] <gsuveg> 07. No specific sources given to be enabled, all will be enabled.
[11:16] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: ^
[11:16] <Brydenn33> so what does that mean in english gsuveg
[11:16] <MetaMorfoziS> s egsz sokan voltunk...
[11:16] <Jucato> alex_: afaik,you can't. at least not easily. Ubuntu/Kubuntu uses a different bootsplash engine from the ones that use those themes
[11:16] <MetaMorfoziS> Jucato:  that is: usplash?
[11:16] <gsuveg> MetaMorfoziS: demozni akartam, csak tudtam eldonteni mit ;)
[11:17] <Jucato> MetaMorfoziS: yes.
[11:17] <Jucato> MetaMorfoziS: and please, speak in English in here.thanks :)
[11:17] <MetaMorfoziS> mm sry:)
[11:17] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: have u setup your card
[11:17] <gsuveg> MetaMorfoziS: join #ubuntu-hu
[11:17] <Brydenn33> gsuveg: i believe so.
[11:17] <Jucato> alex_: that theme needs fbslpash. Ubuntu uses USplash
[11:17] <Brydenn33> but how can i be sure?
[11:18] <Brydenn33> i mean... when i go to Wireless Assistant it shows all the networks in my area and shows if they have WEP, etc
[11:18] <Brydenn33> so i know the card is working
[11:18] <Brydenn33> and it show's ath0 in Network Settings
[11:19] <grindel> help anyone ??? please
[11:20] <gsuveg> grindel: problem?
[11:20] <yohann> goodbye
[11:22] <roland> hi
[11:22] <grindel> yes thank you gusveg
[11:23] <Brydenn33> so gsuveg any ideas?
[11:23] <roland> i need a good instruction how to create a virtual ramfs. i would like to "copy" the /var/www directory into a ramfs
[11:23] <Brydenn33> how do i specify a source?
[11:23] <alex_> and this is that fbsplash too http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=24322 ? can i install fbsplash on kubuntu
[11:23] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: gimme me a time
[11:23] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: i dont use now
[11:23] <Brydenn33> ok
[11:24] <grindel> my problem is this I installed kubuntu and then later installed windows... windows ofcourse wrtoe over my grub boot menu. I really don't whant to have to install kubuntu again just to simply get the boot menu back... can you help ??
[11:25] <roland> grindel: boot with a live cd and type : grub-install /dev/hdX
[11:25] <gsuveg> grindel: ah.
[11:25] <roland> grindel: in the /boot/grub/menu.lst type:
[11:25] <roland> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[11:26] <roland> # on /dev/hda1
[11:26] <roland> title           Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[11:26] <roland> root            (hd0,0)
[11:26] <roland> savedefault
[11:26] <roland> makeactive
[11:26] <roland> chainloader     +1
[11:26] <fdoving> !paste
[11:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:26] <grindel> ijust tried that here is the result
[11:26] <grindel> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda1
[11:26] <grindel> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[11:26] <grindel> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[11:27] <extrakev> im having a problem, can anyone help?
[11:27] <gsuveg> extrakev: ask
[11:27] <MetaMorfoziS> if you don't say what is your problem, imho nobody
[11:27] <grindel> sorry was my paste too large ??
[11:27] <extrakev> ive got all my songs on an NTFS partition, n wen i open them, there is no sound
[11:27] <grindel> err do you have sound otherwise
[11:28] <gsuveg> extrakev: if you copy it into linux ?
[11:28] <extrakev> but the sound driver is well installed, there is sound wen Kubuntu starts
[11:28] <grindel> have you check your mixer to make sure your volume is turned up ??
[11:28] <extrakev> yep everything is fine
[11:28] <Jucato> extrakev: are they MP3's? if they are, have you installed libxine-extracodecs?
[11:29] <grindel> try coping a file to your ext3 partition
[11:29] <extrakev> ok im gng to try
[11:29] <grindel> ahh yes no mp3 support
[11:29] <Jucato> :P
[11:30] <Kiongku> hmm
[11:31] <grindel> menu.lst dosen't exist in the grub subdirectory
[11:31] <__osh__> !mp3
[11:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:31] <__osh__> Ah.
[11:31] <_Stev_> my installation locked on "downloading package lists" at 99% -_-
[11:31] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: FATAL: Please configure at least one packet source.  Kismet will not function if no packet sources are defined in kismet.conf or on the command line.  Please read the README for more information about configuring Kismet.
[11:32] <grindel> _Stev_ are you sure that last 1% takes awhile
[11:32] <__osh__> Edgy has made the news on slashdot. Not in a very good way though.
[11:32] <__osh__> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/28/239258
[11:32] <Brydenn33> lol yah gsuveg i read that too
[11:32] <Kiongku> duh
[11:32] <Brydenn33> i think i have to specify what wireless device i'm supposed to use
[11:33] <Brydenn33> but i still dont know how to put my card in "monitor mode"
[11:33] <_Stev_> no data being trasmitted / received ...
[11:33] <Brydenn33> which it needs to be in
[11:33] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: what your card type ?
[11:33] <Brydenn33> its a D-Link DWL-G520
[11:33] <extrakev> me again, im not getting sound even if im playing a VCD
[11:33] <blackflag> hello all
[11:33] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: ah. i think you cant put it into monitor mode
[11:33] <Jucato> extrakev: you're trying to play MP3's aren't you?
[11:34] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: iwconfig...
[11:34] <grindel> VCD's commonly use mp3 encoding for audio
[11:34] <extrakev> not only mp3's, but also films
[11:34] <extrakev> im getting no sound
[11:34] <Jucato> extrakev: you need to install the proper codecs. "libxine-extracodecs"
[11:34] <Jucato> !mp3 > extrakev
[11:34] <extrakev> where can i get it?
[11:34] <Jucato> !multiverse > extrakev
[11:34] <grindel> google it
[11:34] <Jucato> extrakev: the bot sent you links.
[11:35] <Sharketor> hello all
[11:35] <Sharketor> I have a problem
[11:35] <extrakev> yep got them
[11:35] <extrakev> thanx
[11:35] <Jucato> extrakev: use the link for the Repositories to enable "multiverse"
[11:35] <blackflag> I want to upgrade to edgy anf I replaced breezy with edgy- doing apt-get update and dist-upgrade but 170 packages are not upgraded and I get not further errors
[11:35] <Sharketor> I can't install italian language
[11:35] <Jucato> extrakev: once you've enabled multiverse, you can install libxine-extracodecs from the repositories
[11:35] <blackflag> can someone help?
[11:35] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: imho its doesnt works within monitor mode
[11:35] <grindel> has anyone made any progress on my issue
[11:35] <extrakev> ok gng to try that
[11:36] <Jucato> blackflag: err no you can't. you can't upgrade to edgy from breezy...
[11:36] <Brydenn33> what doesnt work within monitor mode
[11:36] <blackflag> why not?
[11:36] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: your card
[11:36] <Sharketor> in language selector, between supported language I have english only
[11:36] <grindel> you have to upgrade to dapper then to edgy
[11:36] <Jucato> blackflag: technical issues. you have to do breezy to dapper, then to edgy
[11:37] <blackflag> ohh sorry I, have dapper
[11:37] <Brydenn33> gsuveg:  how do you know?
[11:37] <shinobi2> edgy runs which version kde?
[11:37] <__osh__> shinobi2: 3.5.5 I think
[11:37] <Jucato> !upgrade | blackflag
[11:37] <ubotu> blackflag: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[11:37] <blackflag> but from dapper to edgy it should go
[11:37] <aurora> help.. how to change the owner en group in creating database mysql from mysql to mine
[11:37] <gsuveg> Brydenn33: man iwconfig /mode
[11:38] <grindel> Sharketor when edgy installed it removed the other language packages to save space you have to reinstall the ones you want using apt
[11:38] <Sharketor> no, I have dapper
[11:38] <grindel> aurora you use the chown command
[11:38] <Sharketor> using apt it says "language base not found"
[11:38] <daseeb> anyone who can help me with a sane/scanner problem?
[11:39] <grindel> wow this channel has alot of help request
[11:39] <shinobi2> __osh__: thx
[11:39] <Jucato> not surprising, since Edgy has been released...
[11:40] <Sharketor> down edgy
[11:40] <aurora> thx
[11:40] <grindel> have you tried doing a manual install of the language packages ??
[11:40] <Sharketor> grindel: how?
[11:41] <grindel> aurora next time you have a problem that simple to fix let me know
[11:41] <blackflag> okay iget broken depencies upgrading the hold-back packages doing:
[11:41] <blackflag> apt-get -u dist-upgrade|grep ^' '|xargs apt-get -y install
[11:41] <MetaMorfoziS> Sharketor: find about lang it
[11:42] <Sharketor> in adept there is nothing
[11:42] <fdoving> blackflag: please post the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:42] <MetaMorfoziS> you need "it" ?
[11:42] <honza_> I've just read the article on the slashdot, what do you think? Is it true, or is that author just a lamer?
[11:42] <Sharketor> meta:yes
[11:42] <MetaMorfoziS> i personally use synaptic... but i find you, moment:
[11:43] <oswaldo> lamer
[11:43] <oswaldo> jajajaja
[11:43] <honza_> that article scared me a little :-)
[11:43] <honza_> definitely a lamer?
[11:43] <grindel> honza the editors at slash dot don't normally make up things to write
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> language-pack-it ; language-pack-it-base ; kde-i18n-it ; language-pack-kde-it ; language-pack-kde-it-base
[11:43] <oswaldo> the automatix also is very good
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> Sharketor:  ^^ install these packages, and then in kcontrol or system settings select your region and language..
[11:44] <weedar> Do others also have issues with touchpad scrolling and tapping? It worked yesterday but booting today scrolling was off and tapping was off again
[11:44] <Sharketor> meta: I have already tried to install it, it says "language base not found"
[11:44] <honza_> grindel:  ok..
[11:44] <blackflag> okay, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29040/
[11:44] <MetaMorfoziS> Sharketor: have you enabled all repositiories?
[11:44] <MetaMorfoziS> and, i have + kubuntu.org kde-latest repos
[11:45] <Sharketor> yes
[11:45] <blackflag> You see its german, can you help also?
[11:45] <extrakev> hey thanx, its downloading all the packages with the adept manager
[11:45] <grindel> weeder touchpads are very flaky devices at best... but it would be easyer to address your issue if we knew what type of laptop your working with and anyhardware details concerning the touchpad you may have
[11:45] <per> I'm in big trouble. I upgraded my kubuntu to edgy during the night, and now, i cannot start X. after the bootsplash, the screen goes all black, and as soon as i hit any key, i am dropped to console login.
[11:46] <jiger> can anyone confirm that what default kernel does kubuntu edgy come with?
[11:46] <creaphot> I have a severe Xserver crash on shutdown problem on Edgy (since Dapper in fact) (it seems even the kernel locks, no ssh nor magic keys reboot sequence), Graphic card ati x700 pro.
[11:46] <extrakev> with Linux, will i be able to write to Ntfs partitions?
[11:46] <MetaMorfoziS> Sharketor: have you the kubuntu.org -repos?
[11:46] <MetaMorfoziS> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main
[11:46] <grindel> extrakev no not at all
[11:46] <grindel> ntfs is read only
[11:46] <extrakev> isn't any solution to that?
[11:46] <MetaMorfoziS> try add this, if you don't have. If you have, i don't know then.
[11:47] <grindel> not at this time
[11:47] <fdoving> blackflag: you have more than normal held-back packages.
[11:47] <honza_> there still isn't stable writing to ntfs?
[11:47] <extrakev> n also, can games like fifa 2007 be played on  it?
[11:47] <blackflag> hmm, and what should I do?
[11:47] <grindel> creapshot have you tried to do any diagnostics on why xserver will not start
[11:47] <per> as told above, my kubuntu edgy really fucks up, and I'm rather desperate getting back access to the graphical interface...
[11:47] <Sharketor> I have the ubuntu ones, and no edgy, but dapper
[11:48] <aurora_> everytime i create database the owner:group is mysql en the permision is forbiden for gorup en other..
[11:48] <MetaMorfoziS> oh sorry, i'm isn't asked about what is yoru distro...
[11:48] <fdoving> blackflag: post the output of 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade'
[11:48] <MetaMorfoziS> Sharketor: try find that's in packages.ubuntu.com in the dapper section..
[11:48] <Sharketor> ok, I try
[11:48] <creaphot> grindel : well, yes, dpkg reconfigured xorg several times
[11:49] <jiger> per: I too have just come out from edgy upgrade war
[11:49] <blackflag> here:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29041/
[11:49] <grindel> extrakev yes and no. if it is a windows based program/game you will have to use a program called wine in order to make the game run. However there is alot of configuration that you would have to do specifically for that game in order for it to work properly
[11:49] <aurora_> how can i make it writable automatically
[11:49] <per> jiger: well.. how?
[11:50] <fdoving> blackflag: that's waaay more than normal. hang on.
[11:50] <grindel> i sugest you look at wine forums and website for more details as the subject of running/configuring wine isn't covered in this chat
[11:50] <jiger> per: upgraded(tried to) from dapper to edgy
[11:50] <creaphot> grindel : i don't know if there's x logs since it crashes badly
[11:50] <jiger> per: got faced with a lot of problems
[11:50] <fdoving> blackflag: post the output of 'dpkg --get-selections|grep hold'
[11:50] <per> jiger: yeah.. and now you're stuck in console like i am?
[11:50] <jiger> per: but swimmed thru and now am on edgy
[11:50] <jiger> per: nope :)
[11:50] <jiger> per: but I was a couple of minutes ago
[11:51] <per> jiger: then how do i get X up and running again? :P
[11:51] <fdoving> jiger: what instructions did you follow?
[11:51] <jiger> per: tried a few suggestions from the web and it worked :)
[11:51] <per> jiger: which ones?
[11:51] <blackflag> nothing happens!
[11:51] <jiger> but I want to know if u all r on console then how on irc?
[11:51] <blackflag> with 'dpkg --get-selections|grep hold'
[11:51] <fdoving> blackflag: ok.
[11:51] <jiger> using some console irc?
[11:52] <fdoving> jiger: yes, 'irssi' is a console irc client.
[11:52] <jiger> per: a couple of them
[11:52] <per> jiger: im using commandlinebased irssi
[11:52] <jiger> fdoving: I wanted it too. but I had WIndows the great with me on dual boot and I had better options
[11:52] <grindel> creaphot sorry but your beyond my assistance. I have seen snippits about xorg problems post uprgrade but i don't have any detailes. Upgradeing seems to have problems this time for some reason as you can tell by the volume of traffic
[11:52] <grindel> please be patiant and perhaps someone else will be able to help
[11:52] <jiger> infact I wasn't even able to boot into edgy at all a couple of more minutes before that
[11:53] <serenity> hi
[11:53] <per> jiger: which urls did you use for instructions?
[11:53] <jiger> per and fdoving: try this
[11:53] <blackflag> hmmm... and now?
[11:53] <DjDarkman> is beryl suppoed to work on kde?
[11:53] <jiger> try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:53] <creaphot> grindel well it was the same problem in dapper. otherwise, microphone capture disappeared too, with edgy :-(
[11:54] <jiger> per: it won't work for u but still try and confirm the outcome
[11:54] <fdoving> blackflag: can you post the output of 'LANG=en_US apt-get install amanda-client' ?
[11:55] <jiger> but can anyone confirm kernel in kubuntu edgy
[11:55] <blackflag> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29043/
[11:55] <jiger> mine is showing 2.6.12-9-386
[11:55] <DjDarkman> wich kernel?
[11:55] <alitis4> in slackware on xfce, i got the xfsamba4 ... how i can add this on ubuntu?(i run xfce)
[11:56] <fdoving> jiger: should be 2.6.17-10
[11:56] <jiger> I think Kubuntu comes with only one kernel
[11:56] <per> my kernel says, in grub, 2.6.17
[11:56] <jiger> fdoving: preceisely. but then why ain't I upgraded
[11:56] <aurora_> grindel: what to set everytime i create database the permision is writable to other...
[11:56] <alitis4> in slackware on xfce, i got the xfsamba4 ... how i can add this on ubuntu?(i run xfce)
[11:56] <fdoving> blackflag: next up is 'LANG=en_US apt-cache policy libc6'
[11:57] <grindel> aurora please clarify i don't understand
[11:57] <jiger> anyone know how to upgrade to 2.6.17?
[11:57] <jiger> per: did it work?
[11:57] <aurora_> everytime i create database .. the database is forbiden to group en other
[11:57] <grindel> jiger recompile
[11:57] <blackflag> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29044/
[11:57] <fdoving> alitis4: there is xffm4-samba
[11:58] <jiger> grindel: why? why doesn't dist-upgrade take care of it?
[11:58] <alitis4> ty fdoving
[11:58] <grindel> aurora are you creating the database as the root user... can you create the database with the user account that you would like to access the database
[11:58] <fdoving> blackflag: did you edit sources.list and change everything to from dapper to edgy?
[11:58] <fdoving> blackflag: check with 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:59] <blackflag> yes, that is what I did
[11:59] <aurora_> grindel: i create db with my user
[11:59] <Sharketor> meta: it is a problem of italian repos
[11:59] <fdoving> blackflag: check again. or use 'cp /etc/apt/sources.{list,list.bak}; sed -i s/dapper/edgy/g /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:59] <Sharketor> I have solved the problem using the french ones
[12:00] <Sharketor> thanks
[12:00] <grindel> jiger i don't know i have never upgraded... it install a new kernal when you upgraded and is the new kernel the defualt kernel or is the old kernel still the defult.. do you have the new kernel installed and just aren't booting to it ??
[12:00] <fdoving> blackflag: tell me when you're done.
[12:00] <_Stev_> it's again at "downloading package lists", 99%, no network activity, what should I do?
[12:01] <kimmern> Hey! I have a minor problem here..I have a vcd as bin/cue files..use bchunk to make a iso files..I get 2 iso files, but none of them are able to mount..I just get this error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[12:01] <fdoving> blackflag: and please put my nick before the message, that way i'll spot your message easier.
[12:01] <kimmern> anyone know what to do?
[12:01] <grindel> aurora i don't understadn if you create a DB or anyother file with user X then user X and anyother user in the same Group that user X is in should have access to the file
[12:01] <jiger> grindel: nope. my grub/menu.lst just shows 2.6.12-9-386
[12:02] <fdoving> kimmern: did you follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountIso ?
[12:02] <fdoving> kimmern: does other isos mount cleanly?
[12:03] <grindel> jiger i don't have anyother sugestions besides installing a new kernel at that point... and be happy I don't have a /boot/grub/menu.lst at all i'm booting from the live cd
[12:03] <blackflag> fvokay; idid apt-get update and upgrade and its upgrading now
[12:03] <blackflag> fdoing: okay; idid apt-get update and upgrade and its upgrading now
[12:03] <kimmern> fdoving: yeah, i followed that one!
[12:04] <jiger> grindel: ok how wud I install the new kernel?
[12:04] <fdoving> blackflag: ok, good. there was a problem in your sources.list file then. a dapper entry was left behind. :)
[12:04] <blackflag> it seems not all dapper where replaced with edgy
[12:04] <fdoving> blackflag: correct.
[12:04] <grindel> the only method i have ever used is to download new sorces build and install
[12:04] <jiger> ok
[12:04] <blackflag> fdoving: thanks for your good help!! :)
[12:05] <grindel> goto www.kernel.org for sources it should aslo have instructions on what to do
[12:05] <grindel> you also need access to the root account
[12:05] <fdoving> blackflag: to be sure it upgrades correctly, i suggest repeating steps 3 to 7 at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade to be sure.
[12:05] <kimmern> fdoving: I haven't tried any others..
[12:06] <cristiano> hi all anybody knows how to run kgamma???
[12:06] <fdoving> kimmern: try some other iso.
[12:06] <grindel> to enable the root account you have to "sudo passwd root" and enter the new password twice
[12:06] <grindel> then you should beable to SU to the root account
[12:07] <Jucato> sudo -i
[12:07] <cristiano> i've installed KGAMMA through adept but i dunno how to run it! pls help me!!!
[12:07] <Electrolyte> Since last time I did it it locked X up :<
[12:07] <nerth> hi everybody
[12:08] <grindel> hello nerth
[12:08] <cristiano> nerth: hi
[12:08] <cristiano> guys no suggetion for me???i have to calibrate my monitor but i dunno how to do so in Linux
[12:08] <grindel> perhaps nerth will be able to help fight the tide of request flooding the channel
[12:09] <nerth> ??
[12:09] <grindel> i'm a noob to this channel and am helping as much as i can
[12:09] <fdoving> cristiano: try kmenu -> run command 'kdesu kcmshell kgamma'
[12:09] <lupine_85> cristiano: modelines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[12:09] <lupine_85> make sure you know what the values should be, though :)
[12:10] <cristiano> lupine_85: that's the point! i need a tool to findout the values!
[12:10] <cristiano> fdoving: thx i'll try that way
[12:11] <grindel> isn't there a gui tool for that... I forgot what it is though
[12:11] <cristiano> fdoving: i've tried but a blank window has been shown
[12:12] <cristiano> grindel: the tool should be kgamma, but i'm unable to know how to run it
[12:12] <cristiano> !kgamma
[12:12] <ubotu> kgamma: gamma correction module for the KDE Control Center. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 77 kB, installed size 336 kB
[12:12] <cristiano> damn i've installed but i'm still figuring out how to run it!
[12:12] <grindel> okay kgamma but i thought there was an older Xtool that was independant of WM's
[12:13] <fdoving> cristiano: then the tool doesn't work. or something. can't you use the monitor & display tool in system settings?
[12:14] <grindel> XFree86config ?? <--- too old
[12:14] <fdoving> cristiano: what do you need to configure exactly?
[12:14] <cristiano> fdoving i tried to use it but i don't know how to set optimal values for monitor brightness contrast and for gamma
[12:16] <grindel> cristiano perhaps you have an incorrect monitor profile the defult settings should be good if the profile is accurate
[12:17] <cristiano> well grindel that's why i want to set brightness and contrast on the monitor and gamma in the system settings (btw i have a 17 inches flat lcd philips monitor)
[12:19] <grindel> my point is perhaps your system thinks another type of screen is attached...
[12:19] <cristiano> grindel my system recognized it is a philips 170C
[12:19] <grindel> if it dosen't have the correct screen profile installed then your gamma brighness is going to be screwy
[12:19] <grindel> okay
[12:19] <grindel> i was just asking
[12:21] <cristiano> i'm trying to make it recognize again...damn i'm a web designer so i really need to have such a setting on my system :(
[12:22] <pielgrzym> hello fellow linuxers ;) could anyone politely tell me where are the keyboard layout files located? those file responsible for multimedia keys I mean :)
[12:24] <Electrolyte> Wow, I can't believe I got Half-Life 1 running with an extremely playable frame rate AND EAX :o
[12:24] <Electrolyte> I didn't know EAX would work :/
[12:24] <fdoving> cristiano: if you hang on for a few minutes, i'll try to find something for you.
[12:25] <sks> hi at all... i have a problem with my notebook.. i can hear the audio only if i connect the speaker in the headset plug, but i can't hear nothing from the built in speakers... some ideas?
[12:25] <sks> i have kubuntu 610...
[12:26] <cristiano> fdoving: thx so much, i'll be holdin on :D:D
[12:26] <sks> i have searched everywhere but nothing... someone has the same problem?
[12:27] <fdoving> cristiano: you can do it from the konsole in the meantime, kmenu -> system -> konsole run: 'xgamma -help'
[12:27] <alex-slow_motion> how install the splash screen? i have damaged him and my screen is black, when the computer starts. can somebody help me?
[12:27] <cristiano> fdoving: i'll check
[12:28] <TheGateKeeper> sks: is the master turned  on in kmix?
[12:29] <cristiano> fdoving: xgamma allows me to set a proper gamma value, but i have still to find it
[12:30] <alex-slow_motion> how to repaire the bootsplash screen
[12:30] <tinti> ls
[12:30] <cristiano> grindel btw it looks like Philips 170C is not in the monitor list of the monitor settings tab in my system configuration O____O
[12:30] <tinti> hello?
[12:30] <sks> TheGateKeeper: yes... i tried Kmix e alsamixer... the volume is ok for headset, but not for built-in speakers... in winoz it switch automatically when i insert headset
[12:31] <franz_> (newbie question) i think i messed up my only "user" in my kubuntu. ...i now cannot do "sudo"p since that user is apparently not in the sudoers file...how can i get it back in the "sudoers file" ?
[12:31] <sks> but in kubuntu it doesn't work... knoppix 5.0.1 is ok... can i take something from knoppix to configure kubuntu?
[12:32] <fdoving> cristiano: this article might help you http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/07/2244242&tid=47&tid=26&tid=7
[12:33] <cristiano> thx fdoving i'll check this out!:)
[12:33] <fdoving> franz_: can you run 'id' from konsole for me (kmenu -> system -> konsole)? post the output to the channel.
[12:33] <keyo> hi
[12:33] <fdoving> cristiano: there is not a really good tool to do this.. when kgamma doesn't work.. that is.
[12:34] <beralt> hello, is it just me where amarok suddenly stopped working in edgy
[12:34] <beralt> ?
[12:34] <keyo> does kubuntu edgy come with aiglx default?
[12:34] <sks> no one can help me?
[12:34] <keyo> whats your problem sks
[12:35] <cristiano> fdoving: thx for ur help i really appreciate it :)
[12:35] <fdoving> cristiano: you're welcome :)
[12:35] <sks> keyo: i have an audio problem with my asus l1 and kubuntu 610
[12:35] <fdoving> keyo: not configured by default, afaik.
[12:35] <franz_> fdoving: uid=1000(franz) gid=1000(franz) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),110(scanner),112(admin),1000(franz)
[12:36] <sks> keyo: it's all ok for the headset, but it doesn't work with the built in speakers...
[12:36] <bmo> franz: you have to add yourself to the admin group
[12:36] <keyo> I don't know the solution to that, is the board fine in windows?
[12:36] <fdoving> franz_: ok. reboot, hit esc if you to get the list of kernels, select recovery mode, then run 'visudo' to edit the sudoers file.
[12:36] <bmo> and then all will be well
[12:36] <sks> keyo: usually they work if the headset plug is not inserted..
[12:37] <fdoving> franz_: you should have a line: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[12:37] <keyo> My asus does not shutoff the speakers when the headset is in lol
[12:37] <sks> keyo: with knoppix it works fine...
[12:38] <keyo> ah so its definity amaroK then
[12:38] <sks> can i copy something from knoppix to configure kubuntu?
[12:38] <franz_> bmo, fdoving, thanks :-) bmo's suggestion works :-) but i'll keep that in mind, fdoving :-)
[12:38] <keyo> sks are both apps using the same engine? xine?
[12:39] <fdoving> franz_: did adding yourself to the admin group work? - you -are- in the admin group.
[12:39] <Brydenn33> fdoving: what's the command to see what kernel you are running?
[12:39] <fdoving> Brydenn33: 'uname -r'
[12:40] <franz_> fdoving, nope, i wasn't in the admin group. i was the "adm" group :-)
[12:40] <franz_> is that the same as "admin" ? :-)
[12:40] <sks> apps? it's hardware, like the portable radio switch (sorry for my english :) ) i can't hear the system sound from built in speakers
[12:41] <keyo> I thought you said it worked in other media players?
[12:41] <b3r53rk> hello everyone!
[12:41] <fdoving> franz_: no, but if you read what you pasted to me, you'll find '...110(scanner),112(admin),1000(franz)' at the end of the line.
[12:41] <sks> keyo: apps? it's hardware, like the portable radio switch (sorry for my english :) ) i can't hear the system sound from built in speakers
[12:42] <sks> keyo: with kubuntu it never works... with winoz or knoppix is ok...
[12:43] <mefisto__> I installed kubuntu, then let the updates install themselves. I can't seem to get any sound working any more. Is there something obvious I can do to fix it, apart from reinstalling?
[12:43] <franz_> fdoving, ohh...didn't notice that one :-) but nonetheless, adding myself to admin did work ...i wonder why.....hmm.......
[12:43] <b3r53rk> just one quick question, as a newby should i stick with the 64bit os or would 32 bit be better?
[12:43] <keyo> do you know what the chipset is? most likely realtek ac97
[12:43] <keyo> do you know what the chipset is? most likely realtek ac97
[12:43] <mefisto__> my soundcard?
[12:44] <fdoving> franz_: ok good. but if you were not already in the admin group, you wouldn't be allowed to add yourself to any groups in first place. :)
[12:44] <keyo> no sks's motherboard sound chip
[12:44] <sks> keyo: intel 82801.. ac97... but it works with external speakers...
[12:45] <franz_> fdoving: ohh.. i see :-) hhmm....so if that happens to me, the solution would be to go to "recovery mode" and run visudo? ...ok :-) i'll write that down just in case ;-) thanks again fdoving ! :-)
[12:45] <sks> keyo: but i don't like to bring external speakers with my notebook...
[12:46] <keyo> they only thing i could think of is to reinstall the driver
[12:47] <franz_> (fdoving, oh,,btw, i still had my Users & Groups window opened as "franz" as admin :-)...and after playing with it, i can't used sudo anymore in my konsole...maybe that's how i got to add myself, the _changes_ were still not implemented in the currently opened "Users & Groups" window :-) )
[12:47] <sks> ok i'll try... thanks...
[12:47] <sks> bye...
[12:47] <fdoving> franz_: ah. that explains it :)
[12:48] <mefisto__> how do you reinstall drivers? (complete newb with linux)
[12:48] <franz_> fdoving, bmo: thanks again for all your help :-) im going to eat my dinner now :-) ciao :-)
[12:49] <b3r53rk> just one quick question, as a newby should i stick with the 64bit os or would 32 bit be better?
[12:49] <alitis4> how i can configure my microphone?
[12:49] <fdoving> b3r53rk: 32 is better.
[12:49] <b3r53rk> thanks 4 replies
[12:49] <keyo> I think 32 bit has more support with drivers
[12:49] <b3r53rk> i had some problems installing some apps on 64
[12:49] <b3r53rk> thats y i was wondering about 32
[12:50] <b3r53rk> about drivers i guess i had luck on 64 but i think i'll go for 32 anyway
[12:50] <mefisto__> how do you reinstall drivers?
[12:50] <b3r53rk> bye everyone, have a nice day
[12:51] <keyo> bye
[12:51] <keyo> I hope edgy is faster, beryl runs prety slow (kde 3.5.3 dapper)
[12:52] <keyo> can anyone tell me if beryl will gain performance from upgrading to edgy
[12:53] <mefisto__> how do you reinstall drivers? Adept?
[12:53] <Electrolyte> keyo - depends on your graphics card.
[12:54] <keyo> ati radeon 9800
[12:54] <mendred> keyo: one thing i noticed..kde with beryl felt faster on kde 3.5.5 on dapper
[12:54] <Electrolyte> I wouldn't know then, Beryl runs fast on my X850XT.
[12:54] <funky_D> who can give me a hand installing m0n0wall on kubuntu....
[12:54] <mendred> vis a vis kde 3.5.4
[12:54] <mendred> on dapper
[12:55] <mendred> on edgy it feels just as fast
[12:55] <bomber>  i found a place to resize the menubars of windows and now i cant find it again... does anyone know  wher i can find it
[12:55] <alitis4> i can't use my microphone... why?
[12:55] <keyo> probably because the channel is turned off
[12:55] <Electrolyte> I can't use Beryl any way, I want to be able to launch UT2004 without logging out then back into standard X :)
[12:56] <alitis4> ?
[12:56] <bomber> actually its the titlebar i want to resize
[12:56] <amayera> hi
[12:56] <amayera> I have a problem with firefox: when I try to start the latest version in edgy (and the old ones too) I get the following error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 \n Major opcode:  148 \n ... \n Failed to open device
[12:57] <amayera> anybody else experiencing this problem?
[12:57] <keyo> right click on the taskbar>add applet>sound mixer, mic is on of those
[12:57] <mefisto__> bomber: it's in appearance>window decorations
[12:58] <bomber> i thought so but i dont see it anymore
[12:58] <alitis4> keyo, ?
[12:58] <alitis4> what taskbar
[12:59] <keyo> the thing at the bottom of the screen with the windows listed on it
[12:59] <bomber> actually the titlebars
[12:59] <lupine_85> !exif
[12:59] <ubotu> exif: command-line utility to show EXIF information in JPEG files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.9-5 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 116 kB
[12:59] <mefisto__> bomber: you may have changed to a theme/style that doesn't have that setting
[12:59] <alitis4> i can't find add aplet
[01:00] <bomber> thats what must have happened
[01:00] <keyo> click in the middle of it in a blank space
[01:00] <zblach> hey all. problems with my embedded laptop camera. to what should I look>
[01:00] <bomber> i installed then uninstalled enlightenment and it removed all my kde stuff so had to install kde again
[01:00] <amayera> nobody else experiencing problems with firefox on edgy?
[01:01] <keyo> "Add Applet to Panel" alitis4
[01:01] <alitis4> i got xfce
[01:01] <bomber> is kubuntu just a kde theme or is there another theme it uses by default?
[01:01] <alitis4> kde theme
[01:01] <keyo> oh sorry, i thought you had kde seeing as this is a kubuntu channel
[01:02] <alitis4> keyo, what can i do ?
[01:02] <keyo> try in the system settings for sound
[01:02] <keyo> i have never used xfce though
[01:04] <larson9999> keyo: i like xfce.  i first tried it using xubuntu on my son's early p4 because it doesn't have too much ram.  but i like it so much i think i might switch to xubuntu for all my boxes.
[01:05] <larson9999> keyo: oops. you don't have xcfe
[01:05] <keyo> larson9999: i might try it some time, its not feature deprived is it?
[01:05] <larson9999> alitis4: what are you trying to do?
[01:06] <keyo> configure his mic
[01:06] <mefisto__> are thre any gui utils I can install to help me configure my soundcards?
[01:06] <alitis4> larson9999, to call on skype and talk
[01:06] <keyo> try using adept to reinstall the driver ALSA
[01:07] <larson9999> keyo: the default look is kinda gnomish in where things are placed.  took me about 10 minutes to figure out how to make it look more like kde.  after that, i haven't found anything that 'I' do in kde that i can't in xcfe
[01:07] <alitis4> well guys....
[01:07] <alitis4> i put my micro in all the ......
[01:07] <alitis4> but it doesn't work
[01:08] <alitis4> why
[01:08] <keyo> you have to turn the input on, there will be an option somewhere, it will be muted
[01:08] <larson9999> alitis4: i haven't used skype in a loooong time but i don't see why it should be any different in xcfe.
[01:08] <alitis4> larson9999, i can't use my micro general
[01:08] <alitis4> tht's the problem
[01:09] <alitis4> microphone*
[01:09] <larson9999> keyo: actually there are a couple xfce apps i liked so much i use them in kde.  the file manager thunar is nice yet lightweight.  same goes for the unarchiver.
[01:09] <alitis4> how i can config my microphone
[01:09] <alitis4> to enable it ...
[01:09] <alitis4> or something like that ?>
[01:10] <keyo> konqueror is a slow pile of crap IMO
[01:10] <mefisto__> alitis4:  play around with the mixer controls, input section
[01:10] <keyo> i do like the interface though
[01:11] <[Deathmaster] > i guess you can call me stupid but i need the alternate cd to upgrade using apt-cdrom right ?
[01:11] <larson9999> keyo: i like konqueror's interface but it seems to want to do a bit too much imho.
[01:12] <keyo> as a web browser its too slow on javascript, it loads things corectly though
[01:12] <keyo> Opera is an almost perfect web browser for me
[01:13] <keyo> larson9999: send me a screenshot of your desktop, i want to know how much i can get xfce to look like kde
[01:14] <larson9999> keyo: opera is nice but there are too many pages that are too sloppy for opera
[01:14] <keyo> nah, its the browser sniffing 95% of the time
[01:15] <keyo> ID as mozilla and everything works fine
[01:15] <morghanphoenix> Is there a way to play wma files that come up as encrypted?
[01:17] <keyo> get the licence for the files
[01:17] <morghanphoenix> It's supposed to be automatic
[01:19] <keyo> if i upgrade to edgy will my kdm startup settings be changed?
[01:19] <funky_D> how can i get information about my PC and version of the Kubuntu ?? just like in windows MSINFO32.EXE
[01:23] <keyo> im off to bed
[01:23] <keyo> bye all
[01:23] <b3r53rk> sleep well ^^
[01:25] <morghanphoenix> Damn microcentric bullshit
[01:25] <morghanphoenix> evil evil evil
[01:25] <alitis4> damn it......
[01:25] <alitis4> i can't use my microphone..
[01:26] <mefisto__> after reinstalling something, do you normally need to restart kde, or reboot?
[01:30] <alitis4> guys
[01:30] <alitis4> i run alsamixer
[01:30] <alitis4> and i see the inpiut source
[01:30] <alitis4> micro
[01:30] <alitis4> how i can turn it on ?
[01:30] <morghanphoenix> I can watch commercial DVDs, update my iPod, even take files off of it but I can't listen to audiobooks or read ebooks from the library.
[01:32] <ricanelite> Good morning all, Is there a new Firefox I think 2.0 that came with the new Edgy release this past thursday?
[01:32] <morghanphoenix> So there's no way to play the wma files windows media player is supposed to automatically decrypt.
[01:32] <alitis4> morghanphoenix, try mplayer
[01:33] <morghanphoenix> Allready tried, says they're encrypted.
[01:33] <morghanphoenix> And I do have the codes properly installed.
[01:33] <morghanphoenix> *codecs
[01:36] <sam_> hey can anyone tell me where i can get w32codecs ?
[01:36] <Jucato> !w32codecs > sam_
[01:36] <sam_> i have tried apt-getting it
[01:36] <Jucato> sam_: in the RestrictedFormats, there are instructions on how to get it
[01:37] <Jucato> you can't apt-get it
[01:37] <alitis4> guys, i run kmix, i make some changes,... but they dodn't save... why
[01:37] <morghanphoenix> not aptable
[01:37] <Kiongku> !w32codecs
[01:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:37] <sam_> thanks!
[01:37] <radek_> when u have probs try ubuntu forums
[01:37] <sam_> that was quick..
[01:37] <Jucato> hm.. I already sent the factoid in a PM...
[01:38] <radek_> someone here uses VLC Player ?
[01:43] <xsacha> grr any idea why my glxgears would suddenly drop 50% and it just feels slower without anything changing? went from 13700/5 to 9600/5 fps :(
[01:43] <twosouls82> a good day to you all :)
[01:44] <Gaz> hi
[01:44] <morghanphoenix> Edgy?
[01:44] <xsacha> yeah edgy
[01:44] <Gaz> does anybody here know how about mplayer in Opera?
[01:44] <xsacha> but i havent done an update or changed xorg or anything, gah
[01:44] <morghanphoenix> seems to be more than a few glx problems, it's why I'm still on dapper.
[01:45] <lukkien> Hello to all
[01:45] <Gaz> hey lukkien :)
[01:45] <xsacha> naah i had 13000 on edgy, it just dropped to 9000 for no reason
[01:45] <lukkien> Does somebody now how to install flashplayer
[01:45] <xsacha> which tells me something has changed, but i dont know what
[01:45] <Jucato> lukkien: look for the flashplugin-nonfree package. you need to enable multiverse
[01:46] <xsacha> Jucato: no 64-bit version right? :P
[01:46] <lukkien> thanks
[01:46] <Jucato> xsacha: none. :(
[01:47] <morghanphoenix> They should really launch the page that tells you how to do all that as soon as you get a fresh install up and running.
[01:47] <xsacha> using firefox32 with flash right now, but would like 64-bit version so i can use konqueror
[01:47] <Jucato> only way to get that is through wine...
[01:48] <xsacha> there was some flash plugin in repositories, but they just crash whenever something is on the webpage that uses flash (crash the plugin, not konqueror)
[01:48] <lukkien> I run now konqueror an i need the flash plugin
[01:48] <lukkien> i need to now the pad /usr/lib/???
[01:49] <Jucato> lukkien: what?
[01:49] <morghanphoenix> What I need is a windows media player plugin that redirects them to mplayer or kaffeine.
[01:49] <morghanphoenix> Is there something like that?
[01:50] <morghanphoenix> I can play wma and wmv formats, but can't get them to run embedded.
[01:50] <Jucato> lukkien: once you install "flashplugin-nonfree", in Konqueror, go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Plugins -> Scan for new plugins. it will automatically be detected
[01:51] <Gaz> morghan, i've the same problem here
[01:51] <Gaz> trying to get mplayer installed, and working, in opera
[01:51] <xsacha> morghanphoenix: mplayer doesnt do it? have you tried vlc?
[01:51] <morghanphoenix> I usually use konqueror, but have opera around for the few pages konq can't seem to handle properly.
[01:51] <xsacha> mplayer is *meant* to do wma/wmv, the quality -- i dont know
[01:51] <Jucato> isn't there an embedded mplayer of sorts for Konqueror?
[01:51] <xsacha> yes
[01:52] <morghanphoenix> I will play them if there's an option to download or open the file directly, but won't play them as plugins, mplayer I mean.
[01:52] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:52] <Gaz> can i get an embedded one with opera, maybe as well?
[01:52] <xsacha> can opera use netscape plugins?
[01:52] <Gaz> i think so
[01:52] <twosouls82> yep xsacha
[01:52] <morghanphoenix> Yes, and mozilla ones too.
[01:52] <xsacha> well should work fine
[01:53] <Gaz> only.... it doesn't
[01:53] <Gaz> :(
[01:53] <twosouls82> you should add the plugin path to Opera's config thought
[01:53] <paines> hi
[01:53] <twosouls82> -t
[01:53] <Gaz> twosouls: how do i do that?
[01:53] <paines> I just installed the amd64 version. I cannot execute 32 bit apps !?!?! what happend ?
[01:53] <twosouls82> lemme install Opera :\
[01:53] <xsacha> Gaz: are you getting: pluginwrapper exited cleanly with exit code 1 during plug-in detection ?
[01:54] <Gaz> um...
[01:54] <Gaz> heh :D
[01:54] <Gaz> very very new to linux
[01:54] <twosouls82> xsacha: that means good
[01:54] <xsacha> paines: do you have linux32? allows you to run 32-bit apps..
[01:54] <paines> xsacha: yes. same
[01:55] <twosouls82> Gaz, installed.. looking into it
[01:55] <thaven> Hi. I recently moved from Mandriva to Kubuntu, but i have a little problem now. Kubuntu is loading the acx driver for my wlan card, which is not correct. Actually there seems to be no good linux driver, but it works nice with ndiswrapper. How can I get Kubuntu to automatically load ndiswrapper at boottime instead of the acx driver?
[01:55] <morghanphoenix> ns4pluginproxy
[01:55] <Gaz> thanks :))
[01:56] <morghanphoenix> That, flash and java on mine, still no embedded wm-whatevers.
[01:56] <twosouls82> Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced (tab) -> Content (on the left) -> plug-in options
[01:56] <twosouls82> Gaz ---^
[01:57] <morghanphoenix> Any specific plug-in I should have?
[01:57] <twosouls82> there you can add the path to the paths, it is semicolon seperated
[01:57] <morghanphoenix> I have the ns4 thing, isn't that it?
[01:57] <xsacha> morghanphoenix: you have mplayer plugin and restricted formats it should just work, what's the error?
[01:57] <Gaz> trying out :)
[01:57] <morghanphoenix> No error, it just doesn't play.
[01:58] <twosouls82> Gaz, this is my path '/usr/lib/opera/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins:/usr/lib/browser-plugins:/usr/lib/firefox/plugins:/usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc6'
[01:58] <morghanphoenix> Plank white box saying plug-incontent, where the plug-in should be running.
[01:58] <twosouls82> ooops, no semicolons :p
[01:58] <Gaz> installing mplayer from adept, and mozilla-mplayer thingy
[01:58] <Gaz> heh :)
[01:58] <paines> xsacha: ia32-libs were missing
[01:58] <twosouls82> Gaz, I thought you already had it
[01:59] <xsacha> :P
[01:59] <xsacha> there is 3 different packages you need for linux32
[01:59] <xsacha> morghanphoenix: try Real Player
[01:59] <Gaz> i do now
[01:59] <twosouls82> great
[01:59] <Gaz> lets have a try :)
[02:00] <twosouls82> Gaz, lemme know if you don't succeed
[02:00] <Gaz> ok
[02:00] <xsacha> morghanphoenix: is mplayer working at all? like can you view anything on a webpage with mplayer?
[02:01] <morghanphoenix> Okay, I was trying to avoid that since I converted all my rmvb files.
[02:01] <morghanphoenix> yeah
[02:01] <morghanphoenix> MPlayer is working fine, it was just wm-whatevers that wouldn't play.
[02:01] <Gaz> mplayer no work :(
[02:02] <morghanphoenix> And I play the files with mplayer, just some sites don't have the option to open the file directly.
[02:02] <twosouls82> Gaz: have you installed the codecs it uses to play?
[02:02] <xsacha> morghanphoenix: you have all of these packages: w32codecs mplayer mozilla-mplayer and libdvdcss2?
[02:02] <Gaz> twosouls82: yeah
[02:02] <Gaz> from automatix2
[02:02] <Gaz> the multimedia codecs
[02:03] <xsacha> morghanphoenix: you should never have to open the file directly, it'll play inside the browser if you have mplayer plugin detected by browser
[02:03] <twosouls82> Gaz: what doesn't work?
[02:03] <mefisto__> Gaz:  you need the other codecs from automatix2, for w32codecs, etc
[02:03] <Jucato> warning: not all bash scripts might work in Edgy
[02:03] <Gaz> well, when i load a video, be it mpeg quicktime or wmv, a blank box is there
[02:04] <thaven> morghanphoenix: kaffeine starter plugin something for you? it will play embedded videos in Kaffene instead.
[02:04] <twosouls82> !restrictedformats | Gaz
[02:04] <ubotu> Gaz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:05] <morghanphoenix> anybpody know a fast-loading site to test the wma playback, think it's fixed now.
[02:06] <lukkien> when i want to install de adobe flash he ask me the the path
[02:06] <alitis4> guys
[02:06] <Jucato> lukkien: did you even follow the link that was PM'd to you?
[02:06] <alitis4> guys, i can listen my micro, only if turn the the volume high
[02:06] <alitis4> what i should do ?
[02:06] <Jucato> !flash | lukkien
[02:06] <ubotu> lukkien: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:07] <Jucato> lukkien: you don't have to (maybe not even recommended) to install the one from Adobe directly
[02:12] <mos> hy everybody
[02:12] <mos> what is su?
[02:12] <Jucato> !su
[02:12] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:13] <morghanphoenix> Well, that was much better, had to ctrl+alt+esc it when I tried to load a plug-in that time.
[02:15] <Gaz> still not playing
[02:15] <Gaz> i've installed the totem plugins as well
[02:15] <morghanphoenix> And now opera's not even loading.
[02:16] <morghanphoenix> trying cli launch to see if I get errors.
[02:17] <flaccid> i get this when trying to run opera opera: Module initialization failure. No memory to complete operation (-2)
[02:17] <flaccid> just upgraded to 9.1
[02:17] <flaccid> hmm
[02:17] <morghanphoenix> Stupid lock files
[02:17] <esaym> hey when fdisk is forced to run due to an unclean unmount, where does it log info too?
[02:18] <esaym> after it ran it put some red text out but i didnt get a chance to read it before it rebooted
[02:18] <softmaster> can Kaffeine play rm & rmvb files?
[02:18] <Jucato> softmaster: yes. rmvb definitely
[02:18] <softmaster> how
[02:18] <Jucato> just needs the w32codecs
[02:19] <Jucato> or is it libxine-extracodecs... hm...
[02:19] <Jucato> probably both :)
[02:19] <softmaster> how to get win32 codecs
[02:19] <eilker> hi people what do i need for lan ? samba etc ? i have modem one pc one laptop, i wanna share each other?
[02:19] <Jucato> softmaster: download and install the w32codecs .deb file. um.. works only on 32-bit machines
[02:19] <Jucato> !w32codecs > softmaster
[02:19] <Kiongku> hmm
[02:19] <Jucato> softmaster: see the link that was sent to you. the RestrictedFormats page
[02:20] <Jucato> there are instructions there (scroll down a bit)
[02:20] <Kiongku> after sam now softmaster
[02:20] <Kiongku> lol jucato u must put up a bot for that :p
[02:20] <Gaz> do i need to restart opera after installing new plugins?
[02:20] <mos> when i try to run adept it says conversation whit su failed
[02:20] <Kiongku> gaz probably
[02:20] <ccomp5950> Gaz: yes
[02:20] <Jucato> Kiongku: there already is
[02:20] <Gaz> heh
[02:20] <softmaster> ok thanks
[02:20] <Gaz> lol dint think of that :{
[02:20] <Jucato> !w32codecs > Kiongku
[02:21] <eilker> hi people what do i need for lan ? samba etc ? i have modem one pc one laptop, i wanna share each other? laptop is suse, pc is kubuntu...
[02:21] <mos> i'm quite new at this..
[02:21] <Dr_willis> eilker,  if both pc's have a network port.. 1 single crossover network cable will do it.
[02:21] <Dr_willis> eilker,  or 2 normal cables and a switch/hub.
[02:22] <Dr_willis> eilker,  when you say 'modem' you mean a dial up modem?
[02:22] <eilker> adsl modem
[02:22] <Dr_willis> and how is it connecting to the pc?
[02:22] <eilker> by ethernet to both of them
[02:23] <eilker> it may connect ?
[02:23] <Dr_willis> you both of them>
[02:23] <Dr_willis> You got 2 cablec comming from the dsl modem to the 2 pcs ?
[02:23] <eilker> i yes sir exactly
[02:23] <esaym> oh crap, i ment fsck, where does fsck log to?
[02:24] <Dr_willis> the dsl modem has 2 network jacks then? that somthing ive never seen befor.
[02:24] <eilker> it has 4 ports
[02:24] <Dr_willis> thats a nifty thing then...
[02:24] <Dr_willis> must be a dsl modem and router combined.
[02:25] <eilker> yes sir, sorry it is adsl router
[02:25] <Dr_willis> get on pc #1 check its ip, check #2 see its ip..  then see if #1 can ping #2 :)
[02:25] <Jucato> Dr_willis: I have one like that too. but I can't determine whether it's a multi-port modem or a router
[02:25] <eilker> ping is ok i already tried
[02:25] <Dr_willis> If they both are on the same router/network.. they are networked... :)  and you got a lan.
[02:25] <Dr_willis> eilker,  so.... what was the problem then? Lol.
[02:26] <eilker> Dr_willis: i cant see files
[02:26] <Dr_willis> 'see files' is not the same as networking. :)
[02:26] <eilker> Dr_willis: i mean i can ping but i cant enter to another pc
[02:26] <eilker> Dr_willis: i cant take files
[02:27] <Dr_willis> you can use the sshfs, or fish:// feature of konqueror (if you got ssh installed on both pc's) to transfer files around
[02:27] <Dr_willis> fish://username@hostname
[02:28] <Dr_willis> of fish://ip.of.the.other.box
[02:28] <eilker> Dr_willis: what about kde public server
[02:28] <Dr_willis> eilker,  there samba, then ssh, then nfs, as ways to 'get to' other  machine
[02:28] <Dr_willis> i never mess with the kde public server.. not sure how it works.
[02:28] <Dr_willis> I tend to use 'fish://'
[02:28] <eilker> new linux user here:) samba is ok?
[02:29] <eilker> let me try samba ?
[02:29] <Dr_willis> samba can work.. but it needs a little setting up.
[02:29] <rolando> hi
[02:29] <Dr_willis> Each linux user needs a samba password enabled.. "sudo smbpasswd -a LINUXUSERNAME"   on each box.
[02:29] <rolando> where is my HD when i boot with the kubuntu live CDp
[02:29] <rolando> _
[02:29] <Dr_willis> eilker,  in the konqueror address bar try the fish:\\ip# thing.
[02:30] <eilker> oki sir
[02:30] <rolando> what is the path_
[02:30] <danny500> I have a question
[02:30] <Dr_willis> roland,  i dont think they are mounted by default.  look in the storage media stuff and see if the icons are there... right click and mount.  they 'should' appear in /media/
[02:30] <rolando> Dr_willis: that is what i thought but media is empty
[02:30] <Dr_willis> i use so many differnt live cd;s
[02:30] <danny500> do they make the game Stratosphere: Conquest of the Skies for Linux?
[02:31] <Dr_willis> roland,  ya could always mount them manually
[02:31] <danny500> or is it just a windows game?
[02:31] <Dr_willis> danny500,  check that 'linux game tome' if it exists they should have info on it.
[02:31] <rolando> Dr_willis: and how do i do that_
[02:31] <danny500> ok
[02:31] <Dr_willis> roland,  sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1   (or similer)
[02:31] <rolando> ok thanx
[02:31] <danny500> thanx doctor
[02:32] <Dr_willis> roland,  what are you trying to mount exactly? ntfs/windows/linux?
[02:32] <BluesKaj> Howdy All
[02:32] <Jonty> I reconfigured X using dpkg-reconfigure, and now all my keyboard layouts are gone. What can I do?
[02:32] <Dr_willis> I got the Linux Game TOme in my 'bookmarks/rss feeds' :) so i see all the altest games
[02:33] <eilker> Dr_willis: fish://10.0.0.12 is this ok ?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> eilker,  been faster to try it and see. :P then ask.. lol
[02:33] <Dr_willis> eilker,  try it and see.
[02:33] <BluesKaj> Does anyone have a scanner connected and working in edgy or dapper , even ? Edgy doesn't see my HP3500c :(
[02:34] <eilker> Dr_willis: it gave connect so that i asked:)
[02:34] <eilker> Dr_willis: it gave connection error so that i asked:)
[02:34] <Dr_willis> eilker,  heh - what error then? You may need ssh installed on the machines..
[02:34] <Dr_willis> I forget whats installed by default these days
[02:35] <eilker> Dr_willis: it gave connection error so that i asked:)
[02:35] <Dr_willis> try 'ssh 10.0.0.12'  and see if ya can get over that way
[02:35] <Dr_willis> !info ssh
[02:35] <ubotu> ssh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[02:35] <Dr_willis> its 'optional' so it needs to be installed. I think.
[02:35] <Jonty> I reconfigured X using dpkg-reconfigure, and now all my keyboard layouts are gone. What can I do? Here's the keyboard section of my xorg.conf: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2371
[02:35] <eilker> ok sir thanx:)
[02:36] <esaym> anyone know off hand what is the ext3 tuning program command
[02:36] <daftvader> hi
[02:36] <esaym> something like extune or something
[02:36] <daftvader> has anyone upgrade to edgy with problems?
[02:36] <Jonty> daftvader: YES
[02:36] <daftvader> i have heaps of problems
[02:36] <BluesKaj> Jonty, sys/settings/keybrd & mouse
[02:36] <Dr_willis> tune<tab> ---> tune2fs  tun
[02:36] <Jonty> daftvader: I agree
[02:37] <Dr_willis> I did a clean install of edgy. No big hassles
[02:37] <Jonty> daftvader: But I managed to overcome them all. Try it
[02:37] <Jucato> problems problems problems....
[02:37] <tiger_it> daftvader: no...... but sometimes problems with dependecies suing aptitutude instead of apt-get
[02:37] <daftvader> jonty for some reason I cannot run my linux on my k7 kernel
[02:37] <tiger_it> daftvader: apt-ger: fine
[02:37] <esaym> hey thanks Dr_willis
[02:37] <daftvader> tiger_it i used apt-get but I received alot of problem, now my linux won't boot into kernel k7
[02:37] <Jonty> BluesKaj: Where's that?
[02:37] <esaym> you wouldnt know off hand where fsck logs to would you?
[02:38] <daftvader> that's the smp kernel
[02:38] <Dr_willis> - /var/log  would be my guess
[02:38] <tiger_it> daftvader: sorry ........ I dindt try K7 kernel........yet
[02:38] <esaym> cant find anything in there
[02:38] <daftvader> well it boot in but nvidia cannot run
[02:38] <esaym> slocate turns upo nothing too
[02:38] <Dr_willis> if fsck is checking a partition.. and the partition is not mounted.. how can it log anything?
[02:38] <Jonty> BluesKaj: If you're talking about Settings > Regional & Accesibility > Keyboard Layout, that doesn't work
[02:38] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[02:39] <daftvader> tiger_it: i cannot see my new usplash screen properly, it is stretched
[02:39] <daftvader> and distorted
[02:39] <esaym> it checked it when it booted, but yea i see your point..hmmmm
[02:39] <rysiek|pl> asked that on #ubuntu, but got no answer: I have just managed to rm -rf /etc/ssl/ (now don't you *even ASK* how). how can I reinstall openssl so the config's are back on their places
[02:39] <daftvader> what is wrong
[02:39] <esaym> it gave an error in red text before it rebooted after checking, tryign to figure out what it was
[02:39] <Dr_willis> wow.. a little bity comercial game for linux.. $19.95  Dirk Dashing: Secret Agent released for Linux  http://mygamecompany.swmirror.com/dirkdashingsetup_linux1_0.bin
[02:39] <BluesKaj> bummer Jonty , sorry to hear that :(
[02:39] <Dr_willis> heh.
[02:39] <daftvader> ;(
[02:39] <heinkel_111> something screwed up with my graphics in the upgrade to dapper...dark grey colours break up into petroleum-shiny greenpinkvioletstuff :(
[02:40] <Jonty> BluesKaj: There's no layouts available
[02:40] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep vga" and paste it here
[02:40] <Jonty> Dr_willis: There's a demo? Cool! I just got 3D support working
[02:40] <heinkel_111> i dunno what is the problem
[02:41] <daftvader> ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
[02:41] <Jonty> I reconfigured X using dpkg-reconfigure, and now all my keyboard layouts are gone. What can I do? Here's the keyboard section of my xorg.conf: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2371
[02:41] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: is that normal?
[02:42] <Dr_willis> doh it crashed
[02:42] <BluesKaj> Jonty, maybe a kde update ?
[02:42] <daftvader> mate just use vista
[02:42] <daftvader> lol
[02:42] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: copy your /boot/grub/menu.lst to, say, menu.lst.orig, and sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst - delete every occurence of "vga=XXX"
[02:43] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: vista? for what? waste 1GB opf RAM just to have transparency, when I have it with xgl and 300MB? :] 
[02:43] <ubuntu_> join
[02:43] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: I was kidding about vista. There is no occurence of vga, it has been commented out
[02:43] <Dr_willis> Ok. Dirk Dashing crashed.. :)
[02:44] <larson9999> still can't fathom why people consider transparency of windows an asset
[02:44] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: hmmm... ok, let's try the other way around. what monitor do you have? lcd?
[02:44] <mos> hy
[02:44] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update is stuck at 'free.contrib.org' source
[02:44] <mos> i'm back again
[02:44] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: yes
[02:44] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: it is ok in dapper
[02:44] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: what is the default resolution for your monitor?
[02:45] <Jucato> BluesKaj: probably PLF for Edgy is down
[02:45] <sorush20> hi I keep getting the message that reboot and shutdown commands are not found any ideas?
[02:45] <softmaster> can i use arabic subtitles for videos especially rmvb and xvid videos in kubuntu?
[02:45] <rysiek|pl> softmaster: yeah, you just need to use the correct font and encoding.
[02:45] <mos> i ca'nt install anything..can someone enlight me?
[02:45] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: it is the 24' monitor
[02:45] <sorush20> why isn't the install cd using the live cd installation method. is that only available for the live cd or desktop cd?
[02:46] <Jonty> mos: enlighten us as to the symptoms
[02:46] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: but isn't the default res only get set after x get started?
[02:46] <rysiek|pl> softmaster: you can set them in the configuration of your media player
[02:46] <Jonty> mos: why can't you install anything
[02:46] <softmaster> how to open the subtitle files
[02:46] <mos> i try to run adept
[02:46] <Jonty> mos: do you not know how or is it an error
[02:46] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: this is the splash screen straight after grub
[02:46] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: that's what we are just goiung to change :)
[02:46] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: I know. I have it at 1024x768 for instance
[02:46] <Jonty> mos: try kdesu synaptic
[02:46] <mos> after i type my password it says conversation whit su failed
[02:46] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: does your monitor handle 1024x768?
[02:47] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: yes
[02:47] <mos> i don't have synaptic installed
[02:47] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: just to check if you know what I am talking about, i am refering to the usplash screen that loads thing up before xserver
[02:48] <softmaster> how to open the subtitle files
[02:48] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: or the login screen
[02:48] <BluesKaj> bbl
[02:48] <softmaster> and what is the proper encoding for arabic?
[02:48] <mos> i'm using the alternate package of daper drake
[02:48] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: yes, I am refering to the resolution that usplash is being displayed at all the time :)
[02:49] <sorush20> does the alternate cd or the desktop cd have the live cd on it?
[02:49] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: cool, how can I change it so that it is displayed properly
[02:49] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: ok, in tha menu.lst file you have stanzas, try adding "vga=791" to the end of the "kernel:" line of the stanza that defines the boot option you use
[02:50] <softmaster> any helper here ?
[02:50] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: I suppose your monitor can't handle the resolution uspolash is being displayed by default, so we'll change that to 1024x768 this way
[02:50] <rysiek|pl> softmaster: google for it, if you use it yoiou should know.
[02:51] <daftvader> try adding "vga=791" to the end of the "kernel:" - what does that mean
[02:51] <daftvader> can you give me an example
[02:51] <sorush20> did anyon even see my question..
[02:51] <sorush20> this channel is becoming really bad..
[02:51] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: moment
[02:52] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: BEFORE: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-k7 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash
[02:52] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: AFTER: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-k7 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash vga=791
[02:52] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: REMEMBER TO BACK THE MENU.LST FILE BEFORE DOING THIS, thank you :)_
[02:53] <daftvader> yep already backup
[02:53] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. you may want to try 'vga=ASK' (or ask)   and seeing what options are  allowed
[02:54] <Dr_willis> also closer to the top of the menu.lst is a location to set the vga= line for all new kerneles.. if you do a update-grub your change/edit will be overwritten.
[02:54] <Dr_willis> You can ALSO edit the grub menu/entrys on the fly at boot time by hitting escape  (to see the menu) then E to edit the lines.
[02:54] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: my nvidia also doesn't seem to work with 2.6.15-25-k7 kernel anymore after edgy
[02:54] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: it used to work with dapper
[02:55] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: you'll need to reinstall it.
[02:55] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: I mean nvidia
[02:55] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: yes i used apt-get
[02:55] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: it said it is already updated
[02:55] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: and is latest. How do I reinstall nvidia with edgy again?
[02:55] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: don't know about nvidia (ATI user here) but I use the installer from ATI's website, nod the drivers from the repos
[02:56] <danny500> How do I install a .run program?
[02:56] <rysiek|pl> *not
[02:56] <daftvader> ah i see
[02:56] <Dr_willis> sh whatever.run
[02:56] <Dr_willis> actually may be better to use
[02:56] <daftvader> I'll reboot and check the usplash and I'll let you know
[02:56] <Dr_willis> bash whatever.run
[02:56] <daftvader> thanks for the help so far rysiek|pl
[02:56] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: nop
[02:56] <danny500> in the terminal
[02:56] <Dr_willis> of course. :P
[02:56] <danny500> ok thanx brb
[02:57] <sorush20> is anyon even hearing me?
[02:57] <Dr_willis> sorush20, moo! :)
[02:57] <Dr_willis> sorush20, eh sonny? what ya say?
[02:57] <esben> sorush20: I don't believe the alternate CD has the live CD, no
[02:58] <esben> Dapper didn't, anyway
[02:58] <Dr_willis> the DVD  has both live and alt install on it..
[02:59] <danny500> dr. it didn't work
[03:01] <danny500> Dr_Willis, this is were it is , /home/danny500/Desktop/dominions3demo_installer.run , how would I type this into the terminal to install it?
[03:02] <rysiek|pl> danny500: bash /home/danny500/Desktop/dominions3demo_installer.run
[03:02] <tommy> Hi jemand hier der deutsch kann?
[03:02] <danny500> ok I'll try that hold on
[03:03] <Jonty> or chmod +x /file/you/want/to run then /file/you/want/to/run
[03:03] <Dr_willis> gee i would just cd to the Desktop :)
[03:03] <Dr_willis> what theres a domonions3 demo?!?!
[03:03] <Dr_willis> Cool!
[03:03] <rysiek|pl> tommy: #ubuntu.de
[03:03] <tommy> thx
[03:03] <Dr_willis> i looked for that game at the stores the other day.
[03:03] <danny500> it say's:
[03:03] <danny500> bash /home/danny500/Desktop/dominions3demo_installer.run
[03:03] <danny500> /home/danny500/Desktop/dominions3demo_installer.run: /home/danny500/Desktop/dominions3demo_installer.run: cannot execute binary file
[03:04] <danny500> now what?
[03:04] <BluesKaj> is there a command that lists all connected, recognized hardware and auxiliary devices in Edgy?
[03:04] <Dr_willis> cd to where its at...
[03:04] <Dr_willis> chmod +x thatfile
[03:04] <Dr_willis> ./thatfile
[03:04] <danny500> ok I'll try that then hold on
[03:05] <danny500> it just goes to another blank text area and does nothing, now what?
[03:05] <Dr_willis> im still trying to fidn a download site.
[03:05] <sorush20> where are the recommened isos for the cds on the download page?
[03:05] <Dr_willis> you ran ./dominions3demo_intaller.run
[03:05] <danny500> o so you can install it your self and tell me how ou did it?
[03:05] <sorush20> via bittorent
[03:06] <danny500> yeah
[03:06] <Dr_willis> all the (#*@&*@ download sites i can find are in russian
[03:06] <danny500> go to goggle and look up Dominion 3, thats what I did
[03:07] <doph089> how long is the startup-time for kubuntu?
[03:07] <danny500> 4 hours
[03:07] <doph089> from i turn my pc on to when its ready for use
[03:08] <danny500> joking depends how fast your computer is
[03:08] <sorush20> much longer that windows
[03:08] <zarephath> anyone in here running PPC architecture?
[03:08] <doph089> say a pretty new pc (Conroe E6600, 4 gb ram, 7900gs)
[03:08] <danny500> thats a really hard question to answer when we don't know what you have in your computer
[03:08] <Dr_willis> danny500,  figure that.. the homepage was not the #1 google hit.
[03:08] <danny500> lol
[03:09] <Dr_willis> downloading now... 13 min.
[03:09] <BluesKaj> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/610released
[03:09] <Dr_willis> wait.. download failed...
[03:09] <Dr_willis> *joy*
[03:09] <danny500> lol
[03:10] <danny500> I'm using a 550MHzP3 , 256MB SDRAM, 8MB intergrated graphics card with intergration up to 256, and I downloaded that file in 2 minutes
[03:10] <Dr_willis> http://www.gamershell.com/download_15828.shtml
[03:11] <danny500> man my computer sucks
[03:11] <Dr_willis> 2 min? wtf server did ya yse..
[03:11] <danny500> hold on I'll find it
[03:11] <Dr_willis> OR did the download just SEEM to dwnload.. whats its filesize. that may be the issue
[03:11] <Dr_willis> http://www.gamershell.com/download_15828.shtml
[03:11] <Dr_willis> 97.28mb
[03:12] <danny500> yeah
[03:12] <danny500> well actually mines 97.3mb
[03:12] <zarephath> Dr_Willis: Is it turn based?
[03:12] <Dr_willis> joy - the download went from 145 mb/s to 9  to 0
[03:12] <danny500> no RTS
[03:12] <Dr_willis> zarephath,   not sure. :)
[03:13] <danny500> like AoE
[03:13] <zarephath> danny500: You replying to me? Real time strategy?
[03:13] <danny500> yeah
[03:13] <zarephath> Ahhh..kewl
[03:13] <Dr_willis> since i cant get it downloaded.. dont look like i will ever find out.
[03:13] <zarephath> Dr_Willis: :-(
[03:13] <LockUp> I've Esperanza CD-R (not CD-RW) - x16 x32 x56.
[03:13] <danny500> what type of connection you have?
[03:13] <Dr_willis> http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Illwinter/Dom3/1.htm
[03:14] <LockUp> What does mean the second parametre?
[03:14] <Dr_willis> cable modem
[03:14] <danny500> yeah, thats the one I used
[03:14] <danny500> http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Illwinter/Dom3/1.htm
[03:14] <Dr_willis> http://download.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/dominions3demo_installer.run
[03:14] <danny500> I use a cable modem to, I have a 7MBps connection, you?
[03:15] <Dr_willis> i can max out at about 400-500kb/s ive seen. :)
[03:15] <Dr_willis> but it dont matter what i can do - if the servers aint giving it to me
[03:15] <soulrider> hi everyone
[03:15] <danny500> 0.5MBps !!!!
[03:15] <jcf_from_ar> Hi. All repositories seem to be down for me. adept freeze "waiting for headers". sources.list are checked. Any idea?
[03:16] <soulrider> i download at 50 KB/s :P
[03:16] <Dr_willis> if the server is only letting you get 10k/s thats all ya get. :(
[03:16] <Dr_willis> servers seem to be the bottleneck these days
[03:16] <BluesKaj> DL-ing the edgy ISO at 525kbs...quite good
[03:16] <zarephath> Dr_Willis: It seems to be grabbing it fine for me...U want me to DCC it to you when I am done d/loading? I don't have a fast upstream but it will be consistent
[03:17] <Dr_willis> Heck that URL isent even starting the download...
[03:17] <danny500> man, I downloaded a music cd yesturday and It came in at 3000KBps!
[03:17] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: Depends what mirrors you use.
[03:17] <zarephath> danny500: What type of connection do ya have?
[03:17] <Dr_willis> wget http://download.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/dominions3demo_installer.run
[03:17] <danny500> cogeco 7MBps
[03:17] <sorush20> why do I keep getting the message that command not found reboot and shutdown ?
[03:17] <danny500> high speed
[03:17] <Dr_willis> NOW im getting it at 300 K/s
[03:18] <danny500> good
[03:18] <Dr_willis> i even asked about that game at a store last week... they never heard of it.
[03:18] <BluesKaj> danny500, where are you in canada...near sudbury here ...using sympatico UHS dsl
[03:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:18] <mirshafie> since i upgraded to edgy only /home and /media will show up in different fs dialogs, such as ktorrent save location, firefox dialogs et.c. what the hell is this? and how can i fix it?
[03:18] <Dr_willis> mirshafie,  thats a feature.
[03:19] <danny500> I live in Welland Ontario
[03:19] <Dr_willis> !hidden
[03:19] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[03:19] <mirshafie> Dr_willis:  that feture sucks!
[03:19] <Dr_willis> mirshafie,  remove the /.hidden file or edit it.
[03:19] <mirshafie> ok
[03:19] <dalbirdy> has anyone here used vmware on there kubuntu machine?
[03:19] <Dr_willis> mirshafie,  tell the devs..  you can always enter the whole /path/to/things
[03:19] <Dr_willis> dalbirdy,   i use vmware server all the time
[03:20] <zarephath> Dr_willis: Like to run windows :-O
[03:20] <dalbirdy> how can I get the sound to work inside vmware....running win xp?
[03:20] <danny500> how do I change the colour of my chat name?
[03:20] <BluesKaj> is there a command that lists all connected, recognized hardware and auxiliary devices in Edgy?
[03:20] <Dr_willis> zarephath,  i use win98 under it at times
[03:20] <zarephath> dalbirdy: Did you install the soundcard in the virtual machine?
[03:20] <Dr_willis> dalbirdy,  not sure.. i dont think sound works on my w98 vmware setup either.
[03:20] <zarephath> If you have sound in Linux you *should* have sound in VMWare
[03:21] <dalbirdy> it shows that i have a sound blaster
[03:21] <Dr_willis> sound works under vmware in my linux sessions.. but w98 dont seem to want to play sounds..
[03:21] <dalbirdy> which i do ....an audigy 2
[03:21] <zarephath> Hmmm...I have always had sound in VMWare on linux
[03:21] <dalbirdy> i am also having issues getting usb recognition
[03:21] <zarephath> That is running windows
[03:22] <zarephath> dalbirdy: I am not sure about the level of driver support for the Audigy 2 in linux...if it is fully supported more likely to run in a virtualized environment
[03:22] <dalbirdy> my main system is Kubuntu
[03:22] <dalbirdy> everything works VERY GOOD
[03:22] <danny500> Why is Apple/Mac being so C@cky in their commercials?
[03:23] <dalbirdy> except running vmware i get no sound or usb
[03:23] <twosouls82> ask them
[03:23] <dalbirdy> somthing to play with i guess until i get it to work
[03:23] <BluesKaj> cuz they think they're immune to the problems that MS windows has securitywise and otherwise
[03:23] <Lynoure> dalbirdy: that's how wmwore is, if I remember right
[03:24] <danny500> It's making me angry cause they keep saying that theMac can do this and the Mac can do that but Windows has been doing all those things for years
[03:24] <twosouls82> so?
[03:24] <twosouls82> ads sucks always
[03:24] <dalbirdy> it patsy fies my wife so i guess that is good enough
[03:24] <mirshafie> just thought i should thank you Dr_willis, the hidden files thing has annoyed me for a long time. thanks
[03:24] <twosouls82> s/sucks/suck
[03:24] <danny500> really they should keep there mouth shut because that really scares off potential buyer's
[03:25] <Lynoure> dalbirdy: it's meant to be for services, mostly, so it (apart from possibly the for-fee desktop version) there is no usb or sound on it. Not a fault of Ubuntu, but a decision of WMware company
[03:25] <BluesKaj> danny500, it appeals to ppl's 'pride of ownership" ...read snob appeal, as well
[03:25] <danny500> yeah
[03:26] <dalbirdy> so they do have ways to make it work if you pay for it.....that sucks!!
[03:26] <BluesKaj> well windows does the same
[03:26] <danny500> not as bad though
[03:26] <Lynoure> dalbirdy: they have to make their living somehow
[03:26] <twosouls82> they all do
[03:27] <twosouls82> that's commerence, this is freedom
[03:27] <Dr_willis> mirshafie,  i kind of like it.. but it should be a per-user setting.. and that .hidden file MAY reappear when you upgrade/update
[03:27] <dalbirdy> I prefer kubuntu anyway my wife just cant seem to grasp it....so she wines until i do something that she can handle
[03:27] <danny500> see Mac is trying to belittle windows by throughing cheap shoots at them on TV but Windows has never done that to Mac
[03:27] <Dr_willis> mirshafie,  perm fix i hear is to make a blank one.
[03:27] <danny500> Windows minds there own business
[03:27] <BluesKaj> I don't see any linux ads on TV , except maybe on "Call for Help"
[03:27] <danny500> thats because Linux can't afford it
[03:28] <sistemas> good morning to all people
[03:28] <Dr_willis> Linux dont need to. :)
[03:28] <danny500> notice how Linux is free
[03:28] <twosouls82> :\
[03:28] <danny500> I like Linux for everything except games
[03:28] <twosouls82> welcome sistemas
[03:28] <sistemas> I am peruvian and I a user of Kubuntu 6.06
[03:28] <BluesKaj> exactly...now you get it , danny500 :)
[03:28] <danny500> no viruses, can't go wrong with that
[03:28] <Dr_willis> I was telling guys at work..  if sony would come out with a "special Linux-Everquest OS" would you change if it gave you better EQ performace? they all yelled YESS!
[03:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:29] <danny500> lol
[03:29] <Dr_willis> Playing Second Live under Linux at the moment... i still dont see the point of the thing.
[03:29] <mirshafie> Dr_willis: i wouldn't mind it if there was a button or something in the k dialogs so that you could view the dirs when you want to. but i just commented every line of .hidden out, it did the trick.
[03:29] <Dr_willis> mirshafie,  under firefox dialog i just click that one button ent tyoe the /path/whatever.  :) out of habbit i guess
[03:30] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, is there a command that lists all connected, recognized hardware and auxiliary devices in Edgy?
[03:30] <danny500> Linix should make an OS that can take and use system files from any OS install disk like a windows xp install dvd for example
[03:30] <Dr_willis> lspci gives a lot of them
[03:30] <Dr_willis> kde has that hardware tool in its control-center
[03:30] <dako> How do you change permission for a folder in your home directory?
[03:31] <Dr_willis> dako,  i use 'chmod ' command but you can right click and properties I think as well
[03:31] <danny500> so pretty much this new OS will be Linux mac and windows all at once
[03:31] <sistemas> since many weeks, I have problems with the sound
[03:31] <sistemas> I can listen music in a browser
[03:32] <sistemas> but I can't listen in my desktop
[03:32] <dako> The problem that I am having is that I made a share folder for my wife to dump pictures into then I copy them to a external USB drive. The main folder belongs to me but the folders inside belong to user nobody
[03:32] <dalbirdy> sistemas: what os are you using?
[03:32] <Dr_willis> a samba share dont use the permissions that way i think.. I tend to just make a 'public' share for people to dump things to.
[03:33] <Dr_willis> but i dont use the kde 'shareing' feature. i go old-skool and edit the samba.conf
[03:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:33] <dako> I used a trick from a web site, is the setup wrong, or should I have done it a different way?
[03:33] <Dr_willis> not sure what trick ya did. :)
[03:33] <dako> I am going through SWAT to use this setup
[03:33] <dalbirdy> sistemas: what os are you using?
[03:33] <Dr_willis> i just edit the samba.conf and make a 'public' share.
[03:33] <shadowhywind> hay all, i was wondering if anyone else is having problems with hibernate with Edgy?
[03:34] <shadowhywind> my hibernate "pretends to hibernate" it locks the screen, turns the monitor off, and then it turns it back on.. any ideas?
[03:34] <dalbirdy> i am using dapper....and so far i have had no issue with hibernate
[03:34] <sistemas> I using firefox
[03:35] <dako> I tried to do that on the external USB, but I could not dump files into it from the laptop that is running windows
[03:35] <Dr_willis> chmod +x dominions3demo_installer.run  && ./dominions3demo_installer.run
[03:35] <shadowhywind> i had no issues with hibernate in dapper eather
[03:35] <KennyTheFreak> I was wondering if anyone was having problems with upstart with edgy...
[03:35] <sistemas> and I use Amarok to reproduce mp3
[03:36] <dalbirdy> does anyone have any issue of making an audio cd out of mp3's....
[03:36] <Dr_willis> k3b needs a mp3 thing loaded to do so.
[03:36] <dalbirdy> i was so i converted the mp3 to ogg and it made an audiio cd for me
[03:36] <Dr_willis> well i got the DOmoniosn3 demo working. :)
[03:36] <Dr_willis> dalbirdy,  the kubuntu faq - mentions the exact package needed to get k3b to read mp3's
[03:36] <larson9999> is it just me or do most people think buying ring tones is moronic?
[03:37] <sistemas> I tried to test the sound in the system settings
[03:37] <sistemas> but nothing
[03:37] <dalbirdy> Dr. Willis...where do i get this mp3 thing....what is is called?
[03:37] <soulrider> dalbirdy: you gotta installa  package to do that
[03:37] <sistemas> I don't have son
[03:37] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[03:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:37] <Dr_willis> larson9999,  my cell phone can use mp3's as ring tones.. but the NEW ones cant
[03:37] <soulrider> larson9999: i thgink it is moronic :P
[03:37] <dalbirdy> ok
[03:37] <Dr_willis> dalbirdy,  the KUBUNTU FAQ has a chapter on mp3 packages to install
[03:37] <soulrider> my cell can only use MIDI :(
[03:38] <dalbirdy> im going there now
[03:38] <sistemas> I but why does I have sound in the browser but not in my dektop
[03:38] <dako> I don't have a samba.conf file
[03:40] <dako> what sound driver are you using>
[03:40] <KennyTheFreak> either im deaf or my sound driver doesnt work...
[03:41] <sorush20> !rescue
[03:41] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[03:41] <dalbirdy> found it thanks
[03:41] <sorush20> the rescue is not exactly rescuing my system from booting in to busy box
[03:43] <TheGateKeeper> sorush20: won't your system boot up properly?
[03:44] <KennyTheFreak> wheres the alsa-base config file?
[03:46] <daftvader> hi
[03:46] <daftvader> can anyone tell my where i can get my linux kernel source
[03:46] <dalbirdy> works great thanks....Dr. W
[03:46] <daftvader> what repository?
[03:46] <dako> !mp3
[03:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:47] <zero_1> hello pips!  this kinda might be OT here but i was researching on this opensuse kickoff menu and been trying to build it w/ no success.  some ubuntu users were able to successfully build it,i assume from svn sources.... anyone knows which version it was?
[03:47] <dalbirdy> under the terminal
[03:47] <NeedHelp> can anyone tell me kdm wouldn't show up on the display (its in the process tree) after i upgrade from dapper drake to edgy eft
[03:47] <dalbirdy> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential
[03:47] <gnomefreak> zero_1: you mean slab?
[03:47] <zero_1> um yeah
[03:47] <sistemas> I 'm in alsamixer
[03:47] <sistemas> and it shows me that surround is off
[03:47] <aurora_> help.. how to change owner database automatically from mysql to my user account everytime i create database
[03:47] <dalbirdy> you have to be sudo to make the kernel headers install
[03:48] <administrator> how can I update mu kubuntu?
[03:48] <administrator> my
[03:48] <Dr_willis> ok.. i dont think i want to buy Domonions3  :)
[03:48] <Dr_willis> I though there was also a new game out.. Savage3 ?
[03:49] <dalbirdy> apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:49] <zero_1> umm...my bad,the one on opensuse 10.2 beta
[03:49] <dalbirdy> for administrator....do this in the terminal....apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:49] <NeedHelp> can anyone tell me why kdm wouldn't show up on the display (its in the process tree) atfer i upgrade from dapper drake to edgy eft
[03:49] <administrator> thanks
[03:49] <shadowhywind> so does anyone have any ideas on why my hibernate would pretend to hibernate and not shutdown?
[03:50] <dalbirdy> i guess by default gdm is the chosen boot manager
[03:50] <administrator> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:50] <administrator> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[03:50] <dalbirdy> you have to be su
[03:50] <BluesKaj> Strange , my cpu is supposed run at 2Ghz , but according to the k-info center list the speed at 1Ghz ...what gives ?
[03:50] <dalbirdy> type the same thing but put sudo at the beginning
[03:50] <aurora_> administrator: start with sudo
[03:50] <administrator> sudo?
[03:50] <daftvader> i need help: I cant get my k7 smp to run with Xorg after edgy eft upgrade
[03:51] <dalbirdy> example........  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:51] <administrator> oh
[03:51] <daftvader> i am using nvidia
[03:51] <dalbirdy> then give it the password
[03:51] <shadowhywind> how werid is this error, sudo shutdown -r now -> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 29 09:31:39 2006
[03:51] <aurora_> help.. how to change owner database automatically from mysql to my user account everytime i create database
[03:52] <administrator> it didnt do anything...
[03:52] <administrator> 0 updated...0 blah blah
[03:52] <dalbirdy> what exactly do you want to do?
[03:52] <NeedHelp> can anyone tell me why kdm wouldn't show up on the display (its in the process tree) atfer i upgrade from dapper drake to edgy eft
[03:52] <dalbirdy> if it said 0 updated it is already up to date
[03:52] <administrator> update the whole kubuntu...i get random crashes and i think an update woul work
[03:53] <dalbirdy> have you tried using the program automatix2
[03:53] <LjL> !automatix
[03:53] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[03:53] <daftvader> automatix doesn't work with edgy
[03:53] <dalbirdy> it doen't update the whole kubuntu but it will help you update the latest kde
[03:54] <Zerb_Riss> Automatix can cause loads of other problems anyways
[03:54] <daftvader> man this is really making my cranky
[03:54] <dalbirdy> i have had no problems with it personally
[03:54] <daftvader> *me
[03:54] <sorush20> no TheGateKeeper I keep getting botted into sandbox.
[03:54] <Zerb_Riss> dalbirdy, I've had luck with it on two installations but it ruined one
[03:54] <jxn> is there a way to get aiglx work on a dual screen setup?
[03:54] <NeedHelp> adminstrator, how owuld i update the whole kubuntu, i changed all of the repositiories in /etc/apt/sources.list from dapper to edgy. ran sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:55] <dalbirdy> come to think about it that is what i did too!!........thanks needhlp for jogging my memory
[03:56] <Zerb_Riss> !upgrade
[03:56] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:56] <Zerb_Riss> you need to get more packages
[03:56] <sistemas> Any help?
[03:56] <daftvader> can some one please help me to get 2.6.15-27.k7 smp to work with my nvidia card
[03:56] <daftvader> argh
[03:56] <gsuveg> Riddell: are you here ?
[03:56] <daftvader> so annoying
[03:57] <daftvader> it used to work under dapper
[03:57] <daftvader> now it doesn't work with edgy
[03:57] <Zerb_Riss> daftvader, what is it doing?
[03:58] <daftvader> Zerb_Riss: it cannot startx
[03:58] <Zerb_Riss> does it give you any errors?
[03:58] <jxn> i would downgrade to dapper and wait for a working driver
[03:58] <daftvader> Zerb_Riss: yes it does, it said that the x module is not compatible with the nvidia
[03:59] <daftvader> something that x module has the version of 1.08774
[03:59] <Zerb_Riss> what card do you have?
[03:59] <daftvader> 7800 GTX
[03:59] <daftvader> GFerce 7800 GTX
[03:59] <TheGateKeeper> sorush20: ok I don't know if this is of any help, but I was getting the same thing after installing another distro & wanting to also boot back into the original, problem turned out to be me making mistakes in menu.lst
[04:00] <daftvader> the thing that annoys me is that the system works fine under dapper
[04:00] <Zerb_Riss> daftvader, hmm... I have a 7600 GT and it works fine under Kubuntu Edgy
[04:00] <daftvader> i think upgrading to edgy change the X modulle
[04:00] <Zerb_Riss> does it work with the nv driver?
[04:00] <shadowhywind> where are the power settings located in edgy now? like the hibernate settings?
[04:00] <daftvader> yes but do you run a k7 smp kernel?
[04:00] <sorush20> TheGateKeeper:
[04:00] <sorush20> I missed you reply
[04:01] <Zerb_Riss> good p[oint, but your problem has to do with the X server, not the kernel
[04:01] <daftvader> it works ok with a 2.6.15 kernel but I have an AMD x2 4800+ dual core
[04:01] <daftvader> yes
[04:01] <TheGateKeeper> sorush20: ok I don't know if this is of any help, but I was getting the same thing after installing another distro & wanting to also boot back into the original, problem turned out to be me making mistakes in menu.lst
[04:01] <daftvader> so how do I downgrade my X-server
[04:01] <daftvader> to dapper
[04:01] <Zerb_Riss> you shouldn't need to
[04:01] <Zerb_Riss> do you have xserver-xorg and kubuntu-desktop installed?
[04:02] <daftvader> well I am on kubuntu destop atm
[04:02] <daftvader> but using a kernel 2.6.17.10-386
[04:02] <sorush20> I never changed the menu list but I don't think that is the problem.. I do get the correct boot up but I get into sand box..
[04:02] <sorush20> TheGateKeeper: you mean the grub menu
[04:02] <Zerb_Riss> daftvader, ah, so you're smp configuration is the only one with problems?
[04:02] <daftvader> if i changed to a 2.6.15.27-k7 smp it doesn't run kubuntu
[04:02] <TheGateKeeper> sorush20: yep
[04:02] <daftvader> yes that is right
[04:03] <daftvader> but the question here is that it used to work perfectly in dapper
[04:03] <daftvader> the kernel doesn't change
[04:03] <daftvader> the nvidia driver doesn't change
[04:04] <Zerb_Riss> daftvader, yah I had a problem like that back when Dapper first came out, but it was with a nic card
[04:04] <daftvader> Zerb_Riss: but the funny thing is my friend
[04:05] <daftvader> when I boot into with my 2.6.17 kernel, nvidia version is 8774
[04:05] <daftvader> but when i boot with my smp kernel, the system said that nvidia module is version 8762
[04:05] <daftvader> so why?
[04:06] <Zerb_Riss> heh no clue... do you have any upgrade candidates in apt?
[04:08] <daftvader> what do you mean by upgrade candidates
[04:13] <dalbirdy> if i was to upgrade to edgy....do you think it would mess up my vmware setup?
[04:13] <Isoss> Hey guys. I am having some problem with my konqourer. when I try to open system:/ it freezes .. and if I hesitate to close it and force it to terminate I might need to restart my system!
[04:13] <Isoss> any idea what couldn the problem be?
[04:15] <jaba_vg> #kubuntu-es
[04:15] <jaba_vg> como se va ayi?
[04:15] <daftvader> how do i find my nvidia verison in the command line?
[04:15] <daftvader> *version
[04:16] <sistemas> When I loading my desktop
[04:16] <sistemas> ,there appear 12 crash reports
[04:16] <sistemas> aobut i/o  buffer failed
[04:16] <Kiongku> dalbirdy: probably.
[04:16] <sistemas>  I use dmesg | grep -i falil
[04:16] <sistemas> fail
[04:17] <dalbirdy> i think i am going to leave it just like this for a while....
[04:17] <sistemas> and show me cdrom fail
[04:17] <sistemas> Do anybody know the solution?
[04:18] <weedar> Is there a way to turn off holding back packages, in other words upgrade ALL upgradeable packages?
[04:19] <Kiongku> weedar: enable everything in ur sources.list
[04:19] <Zerb_Riss> !aiglx
[04:19] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[04:20] <Isoss> sorry got disconnected. any help concerning my problem?
[04:20] <weedar> Kiongku: How do you mean? There are no lines that are commented out (except for actual comments)
[04:20] <Zerb_Riss> weedar, apt-get -u dist-upgrade|grep ^' '|xargs apt-get -y install
[04:21] <Kiongku> lsoss: what u mean by system:?
[04:22] <weedar> Thanks a bundle Zerb_Riss, I'll have to do some thinking to understand what that actually did :) (but it works)
[04:22] <Isoss> root
[04:23] <Kiongku> hmm
[04:23] <sistemas> please I want to solve this problems
[04:23] <Kiongku> ya need to learn those things myself.. argh.. codes..
[04:23] <Zerb_Riss> weedar, it just gets a list of all the package names that apt-get -u dist-upgrade return, greps through it for package names, then runs apt-get install on the results
[04:23] <Isoss> I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the program to no avail! it doesn't seem broken!
[04:23] <Isoss> but maybe it's a configuration problem!
[04:24] <weedar> Zerb_Riss: okay. I get alot of dependency errors though (and the -y installs anyway)
[04:24] <Zerb_Riss> weedar, if you're upgrading to Edgy from Dapper you should follow these instructions exactly
[04:24] <Zerb_Riss> !upgrade | weedar
[04:24] <ubotu> weedar: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:25] <weedar> Zerb_Riss: I already upgraded from dapper to edgy, using the informatinon on kubuntu.org - just that alot of python packages were held back
[04:25] <Zerb_Riss> weedar, okay, it should be fine then
[04:25] <buff> could anyone tell me how to update sources.list on kubuntu 6.10   ?
[04:26] <Isoss> buff: edit it
[04:26] <buff> how ?
[04:26] <Isoss> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:27] <sistemas> other question
[04:27] <Isoss> or use any other editor instead of nano
[04:27] <sistemas> I have a integrated video card PCchips
[04:27] <sistemas> Can I install openGL
[04:27] <buff> yes but what to type ?
[04:27] <Ash-Fox> !soundcard
[04:27] <Isoss> buff: what do u need to update exactly?
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <buff> i mean ap-get isn't working
[04:28] <sistemas> No is a integrated motherboard PCchips
[04:28] <Isoss> buff: please explain the problem!
[04:28] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, probably not, you're probably stuck with MesaGL
[04:29] <buff> ok, i wanna to install xchat but when i type 'sudo apt-get install xchat' it isn't working
[04:30] <Isoss> buff: what error or out put do u get when you try to instal xchat?
[04:30] <sistemas> I want to use openGL with my integrated video card
[04:30] <sistemas> Can I do that?
[04:30] <Zerb_Riss> probably not
[04:30] <buff> lsoss  'couldn't find package'
[04:31] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, what kind of card is it?
[04:31] <buff> i think i need to enable repositories but i dont know how
[04:31] <NeedHelp> i followed the guide for updating from dapper drake to edgy eft in kubuntu, and when i run startx i get this error - (module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1)) and (Failed to load module "ati" (Module requirement mismatch,0)) and (no drivers available)
[04:31] <sistemas> Do you know whats PCchips?
[04:31] <sistemas> Do you know what's PCchips?
[04:32] <Isoss> xchat is a universe package. do u have your universe repositories activated in your sources.list?
[04:32] <Isoss> enabled*
[04:32] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, that's the kind of motherboard you have
[04:32] <sistemas> yes
[04:32] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, we need to know what kind of card is integrated onto it
[04:32] <buff> lsoss no
[04:32] <buff> tell me how
[04:33] <NeedHelp> i followed the guide for updating from dapper drake to edgy eft in kubuntu, and when i run startx i get this error - (module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1)) and (Failed to load module "ati" (Module requirement mismatch,0)) and (no drivers available)
[04:33] <Kiongku> NeedHelp: its a lot of hasssle to upgrade. just do a clean install
[04:33] <buff> or give a link pls
[04:33] <Isoss> buff: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:33] <Zerb_Riss> NeedHelp, you may need to reinstall the ATI driver
[04:33] <Kiongku> darn we need to put a warning sign in those upgrade pages
[04:33] <NeedHelp> which package is the generic ati driver in
[04:34] <Isoss> buff: you may edit it with kate instead of nano
[04:34] <buff> yes but what should a type
[04:35] <buff> yes but what should i type
[04:35] <Isoss> something like this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[04:35] <Isoss> are u using dapper?
[04:35] <buff> no
[04:35] <buff> 6.10
[04:35] <Isoss> then what?
[04:36] <sistemas> I don't know what type is it?
[04:36] <NeedHelp> sweet
[04:36] <Isoss> hmmm .. I am still on dapper. go to ubuntuforums and check the repositories forum for your problem
[04:36] <sistemas> It's a pentium 4 motherboard
[04:36] <Isoss> I guess you might just need to change from dapper to edgy, not sure though
[04:36] <sistemas> it's has  a Intel 845GL/GV chipset
[04:36] <ubuntu_> hi. what's the login+password for the kubuntu edgy live cd? i *think* the username is "ubuntu" but i can't find the password. i need to log out once to reload some settings, but i can't log in again.
[04:37] <Kiongku> !bzip
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bzip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <Kiongku> ubuntu: never knew it had any login and password?
[04:38] <Kiongku> !bzip2
[04:38] <ubotu> bzip2: high-quality block-sorting file compressor - utilities. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.3-3 (edgy), package size 259 kB, installed size 484 kB
[04:38] <ubuntu_> Kiongku: well, it logs in automatically when you boot, but i need to log out once and then back in.
[04:38] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, then all you can use is the default i810 driver with MesaGL
[04:38] <Kiongku> leave all blank XD?
[04:38] <sistemas> buff
[04:38] <ubuntu_> Kiongku: ubuntu (gnome) automatically logs back in after 10 seconds, but kubuntu doesn't
[04:38] <sistemas> What Can I do?
[04:39] <Kiongku> duh...
[04:39] <ubuntu_> Kiongku: leaving it blank didn't work, but thanks for the tip :)
[04:39] <Kiongku> flaw in the system
[04:39] <jaba_vg> como voy a kubuntu-es
[04:39] <sistemas> dime estas usando konversation
[04:40] <jaba_vg> si
[04:40] <sistemas> a ya
[04:40] <Kiongku> ubuntu_: may be u'r only option is to redo it :(
[04:40] <sistemas> si ps
[04:40] <sistemas> por defecto
[04:40] <sistemas> carga ese canal
[04:40] <sistemas> ingresa esto:
[04:40] <Zerb_Riss> !es | sistemas
[04:40] <ubotu> sistemas: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:40] <ubuntu_> Kiongku: hm yeah perhaps. i was hoping for an easy solution. :) thanks
[04:41] <sistemas> I know that ubotu
[04:42] <sistemas> I have in Intermediate English in my college
[04:42] <sistemas> Well
[04:43] <sistemas> I want to install openGL in my integrated video card
[04:43] <Kiongku> ... check what chipset it is.
[04:43] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, your integrated card's driver doesn't have native OpenGL support
[04:43] <Zerb_Riss> the i810 driver
[04:43] <sistemas> it's Intel 845GL/GV
[04:44] <ecokiller> while testing the DVD, I cant get kubuntu to connect to my home network
[04:45] <yacoob> is there any del.icio.us and filterset.g integration for konqueror?
[04:45] <slow-motion> re
[04:45] <ecokiller> cant enable the wirless
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[04:46] <sistemas> It means that I can't use openGL in my card
[04:46] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, what are you trying to enable OpenGL for?
[04:48] <sistemas> I want to enable OpenGL for Mupen64
[04:48] <sistemas> The graphics are very bad
[04:48] <shadowhywind> i think i might have found my hibernate problem, when i try to hibernate i get Some modules failed to unload: nvidia, hibernate: Aborting suspend due to errors in ModulesUnloadBlacklist (use --force to override).
[04:48] <sistemas> with my native graphics libraries
[04:49] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, yah it's likely because it's using MesaGL
[04:49] <Zerb_Riss> !i810
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <mulder> Back again. Hello all. I need help with a few things, and I have been trying hard, but with no success
[04:49] <sistemas> How change MesaGL to OpenGL?
[04:50] <mulder> anybody who could kindly help me please?
[04:52] <sistemas> Any ideas?
[04:54] <mulder> wow everybody must be at the beach! :-)
[04:54] <Isoss> hey guys .. yesterday I checked the new mandrake distro, and I was amazed by the 3d desktop it has with it's kde ... isn't there a similar one for kubuntu?
[04:55] <xsacha> lsoss you mean beryl?
[04:56] <Isoss> maybe!
[04:56] <Sharketor> hello
[04:56] <xsacha> cube and wobbly windows?
[04:56] <TheGateKeeper> !upgrade > TheGateKeeper
[04:56] <MetaMorfoziS> !beryl
[04:56] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[04:56] <MetaMorfoziS> ragh
[04:56] <mulder> I need some help please people!
[04:57] <Sharketor> is there in kubuntu something like "show desktop" in windows?
[04:57] <xsacha> ctrl+alt+D
[04:57] <Isoss> I installed 3ddesktop from ubuntu repos, but dunno how to get it to work! but anyway, I've been told that it's not as cool as the one in mandrake
[04:58] <xsacha> lsoss: im assuming you mean beryl, join #beryl -- anything in mandrake is possible in any distro
[04:58] <Sharketor> xsascha: tnx
[04:58] <xsacha> i dont think 3ddesktop is what you want :S
[04:58] <Sharketor> and a tats'
[04:58] <mulder> first, I need to remove the sidebar on the left, don't know how it got there!
[04:58] <sistemas_> well guys
[04:58] <sistemas_> I wait a solution
[04:59] <sistemas_> I guess that it exits
[04:59] <sistemas_> I have to go
[04:59] <Sharketor> and a key to do it?
[04:59] <cps1966> you can put icon in task bar also for desktop
[05:00] <|vince|> hello
[05:00] <some0ne> 'morning
[05:00] <Isoss> ok xsacha, I'll check it ... anyway, I need to konw how 3ddesktop works!
[05:00] <mulder>  but I have this grey bar on the left of my screen with a few icons...I want to remove it. How can I do that?
[05:01] <cps1966> right click bottom panel and add applet show desktop
[05:01] <Isoss> I can't find it in my menu
[05:01] <|vince|> its me from myspace willy
[05:01] <mulder> oh yes done :-)! Thank you cps
[05:01] <mulder> now...more serious stuff :-)
[05:02] <xsacha> 3ddesktop says it requires a window manager compatible with the GNOME pager standard -- unsure
[05:02] <mulder> I have an audigy 2 zs card, but it isn't recognized. as well as my logitech camera and canon printer.
[05:02] <bionic> hello..I just installed kubuntu, but after reboot grubs says, "Grub Loading stage 1.5. Grub loading please wait error 17". I have bootet with a live cd now and im looking at the menu.lst.. Got no idea what may be wrong. Can anyone please help?
[05:02] <mulder> the first one is important. Somebody knows how I can have that card recognized?
[05:03] <cps1966> !sound
[05:03] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:03] <mulder> well my intel hda onboard card is working...but I want the audigy to work instead.
[05:04] <cps1966> look above
[05:04] <Isoss>  #bery1 isn't a channel!
[05:04] <xsacha> lsoss: beryl with an "L"
[05:04] <cps1966> #ubuntu-glx
[05:04] <xsacha> when you see a channel name you can click it to avoid typos
[05:04] <Sharketor> how can i do automatic login'
[05:05] <Sharketor> ?
[05:05] <Ahmuck> why  ??
[05:05] <[GuS] > Hi prople! anyone knows how to fix this bug? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kcontrol-autostart/+bug/67609
[05:05] <ecokiller> does anyone know how to get the wep password key thats already saved on computer?
[05:05] <xsacha> Sharketor: using konversation?
[05:05] <Sharketor> no, login in kubuntu
[05:05] <xsacha> Sharketor: or you mean KDE login?
[05:05] <Sharketor> just that
[05:05] <Isoss> oops
[05:05] <Isoss> ok
[05:05] <Sharketor> the second one
[05:05] <siddharth> i am using ubuntu 6.06, kernel version 2.6.15. for a project, i need to install kernel 2.4.22. Is it possible to compile and install 2.4.22 and have both kernels coexist peacefully?
[05:05] <xsacha> Sharketor: go to System Settings->Advanced->Login Manager
[05:06] <Sharketor> ok thanks
[05:06] <xsacha> Sharketor: in "Convenience" tab there will be auto-login
[05:06] <Sharketor> it's a great chan
[05:07] <siddharth> as in: can i do the development on 2.6.15 (use it to hack the 2.4.22 kernel) and then compile it and install it and boot into it?
[05:07] <Sharketor> I'm using gaim, but sometimes it disconects. Why?
[05:08] <xsacha> no idea :P i use kopete
[05:08] <Sharketor> kopete too
[05:08] <siddharth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287951
[05:08] <siddharth> please help!
[05:08] <Sharketor> it doesn't send message
[05:08] <Sharketor> it gives me error
[05:08] <Zerb_Riss> !aiglx
[05:08] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[05:09] <flo_> how can i make akregator see the flash plugin that i have already installed? i'm on a gnome desktop
[05:09] <siddharth> #servers
[05:09] <xsacha> never happened here, don't know what it could be Sharketor
[05:09] <nickv111> Hi. For some reason, amaroK on Ubuntu 6.10 will not play my mp3 files. I can play Ogg, but not mp3. It simply skips over all of the MP3s
[05:09] <nickv111> How do I get it to play mp3?
[05:09] <xsacha> !mp3
[05:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:10] <nickv111> Thanks.
[05:12] <Sharketor> ok
[05:13] <kay_> anyone knows a good and easy music make program?
[05:13] <mulder> strange I have the sound but no image in kaffeine when I play AVI files!
[05:16] <nickv111> Okay. I am using the xine lib for amaroK, and I still cannot play mp3s even though I installed a bunch of the packages noted on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:16] <xunix> help.. how to chmod my ntfs partition in my kubuntu
[05:17] <xunix> it's say read only file system
[05:17] <knapper> dudes
[05:17] <knapper> how do I add something to startup on kde?
[05:18] <xsacha> xunix: ntfs write isn't so hot right now, but if you want write: kdesu konqueror /media  then right click on the drive and properties->permissions change user from root to your login name
[05:19] <mulder> Dear me I feel like I am trying to sell carpets on a persian market! avi files don't play in kaffeine, is there any better player for kubuntu?
[05:19] <xunix> xsacha: ok,
[05:20] <exhale> if i wanted to develop with QT, what do i need to download?
[05:20] <xsacha> exhale: the QT headers, probably KDE headers, KDevelop
[05:20] <Homer> you don't need kdevelop!
[05:20] <xsacha> haha ok ;)
[05:21] <exhale> :/
[05:21] <exhale> i have never programmed before, i just wanted to try it out
[05:21] <Homer> oh
[05:21] <xsacha> when you compile it'll tell you if you're missing something
[05:21] <Homer> use kdevelop
[05:21] <Homer> and buy a book
[05:21] <Homer> lol
[05:21] <b0ysc0ut> can i use Gnash to play flash movies?kuz i got a AMD64 and macromedia dosent support 64 bit's
[05:21] <exhale> i cant apt-get it :(
[05:21] <Homer> apt-get install kdevelop
[05:22] <exhale> is kdevelop replaced with kdesdk-scripts?
[05:22] <Homer> an do seach for "qt" in adept
[05:22] <Homer> download like everything
[05:22] <exhale> it says kdevelop is replaced
[05:22] <xsacha> dont need transitional ones or QT4 ones (unless you're going to be making for QT4)
[05:23] <Lynoure> Sounds like a lot of overkill if he has never programmed anything before
[05:23] <exhale> ...
[05:23] <ecokiller> anyone know how to retireve a wep key password on a computer?
[05:23] <xsacha> exhale: http://women.kde.org/articles/tutorials/kdevelop3/ and join some programming channel
[05:23] <mulder> Ok bye anyway.
[05:24] <yacoob> kdevelop is only for C/C++?
[05:24] <Homer> no
[05:24] <xsacha> ignote the "women"
[05:24] <xsacha> ignore*
[05:24] <yacoob> Homer, good, I was about to add 'poor exhale' if he was to tackle C :>
[05:25] <xsacha> well he said he wanted to do something QT related?
[05:25] <exhale> i cant seem to get kdevelop from the repos, says its aged and perhaps replaced with kdesdk-scripts
[05:25] <xsacha> he could of course just mess around with QTDesigner and barely do any code -- just follow that tutorial for eg. :)
[05:26] <yacoob> xsacha, but there are qt bindings for other languages? or not?
[05:26] <Homer> yes many
[05:26] <xsacha> for java, ...
[05:26] <Homer> python
[05:26] <Homer> ruby
[05:27] <xsacha> telepathy
[05:27] <yacoob> the last one is good.
[05:27] <yacoob> Lemme try visualising an evil qt dialog on xsacha screen, hrmph....
[05:31] <juaaaa> archangel_ you have got msn
[05:31] <keins> was
[05:31] <juaaaa> keins you have got msn
[05:32] <juaaaa> leandrosanchez_607@hotmail.com
[05:32] <juaaaa> copy
[05:32] <juaaaa> and paste
[05:32] <keins> wo bin ich
[05:32] <stamen> hi
[05:32] <juaaaa> stamen hi
[05:32] <stamen> I want to ask,
[05:33] <juaaaa> bay copy my msn
[05:33] <stamen> is Edgy a stable version of the new
[05:33] <stamen> kubuntu
[05:33] <stamen> is it stabel as dapper
[05:34] <stamen> is it stable
[05:34] <exhale> yes otherwise they wouldn't have released it as a final version
[05:34] <xsacha> yes, it was released final 2 days ago
[05:35] <stamen> ok
[05:35] <stamen> which repositories I must use to download it
[05:35] <stamen> without downloading the CD
[05:35] <stamen> or I have to download it
[05:35] <xunix> xsacha: it's says => X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:35] <sorush20> hi i keep getting to the message that can't access job control tty turned off what do I do?
[05:36] <exhale> !upgrade
[05:36] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:36] <xsacha> !ntfs | xunix
[05:36] <xunix> xsacha: i still can't chmod my ntfs
[05:36] <ubotu> xunix: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:36] <stamen> 10x
[05:36] <xsacha> hmm thats to view, just wait.. ill find a page
[05:36] <xunix> ubotu: yup
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <xunix> ubotu: i try to chmod my ntfs partition
[05:37] <exhale> lol...
[05:37] <exhale> xunix: its a bot
[05:37] <xunix> oOo
[05:37] <xsacha> here xunix: http://bisqwit.iki.fi/story/howto/ntfs/
[05:37] <xunix> hahaha
[05:37] <xunix> ok
[05:37] <xsacha> write to ntfs means you cannot change filesize
[05:38] <darkfinal> Does anyone here know about the "Synth devices: Not enabled in config" issue?
[05:39] <stamen> !upgrade
[05:39] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:40] <xunix> xsacha: so i can't edit my file in my ntfs ?
[05:41] <xsacha> you can, but the filesize cannot change
[05:41] <stamen> what I have to do, if I want to upgrade my dapper from the new Edgy CD
[05:41] <xunix> is this same with FAT32 ?
[05:41] <jack_> I've started Adept and wanted to check my repositories a find a lot of grey text on that page.  Are those all delete-able?
[05:42] <stamen> did somebody do this
[05:42] <jack_> a=and
[05:42] <xsacha> no not same with FAT32
[05:42] <xunix> xsacha: ok.. thx
[05:43] <xsacha> you can read and write to FAT32 from almost every operating system that exists
[05:43] <[Deathmaster] > stamen:  i think u need to download the allternate install cd
[05:43] <[Deathmaster] > i downloaded the install one
[05:43] <stamen> ok
[05:43] <[Deathmaster] > i didn' work
[05:43] <xunix> so its better change my ntfs to fat32 ?
[05:43] <stamen> 'Deathma
[05:44] <stamen> and what to do after downloading it
[05:44] <xsacha> xunix: you can turn ntfs to fat32? ok
[05:44] <stamen> does it know whta to upgrade
[05:44] <stamen> this alternate Cd
[05:44] <xsacha> xunix: i know you can turn fat32 to ntfs but didnt know reverse
[05:45] <omicron> hi there.. i am not able to activate us alt-intl keyboard layout on kubuntu edgy using kcontrol. does anybody know how to get that working?
[05:45] <xunix> yap
[05:48] <nutshell42> could someone point me to the paragraph in the (k)ubuntu mission statement that reads "at no point shall this distribution betray its proud history by shipping with a working partitioner"?
[05:49] <nutshell42> dapper hung when trying to actually mount the partitions
[05:50] <nutshell42> eft tells me "no root file system" for reasons I don't understand
[05:51] <xsacha> hehe, the partitioner worked for me but i used fdisk anyway so i could use reiser, bootloader didnt work though but i wanted lilo anyway
[05:52] <nutshell42> I'm not sure how it's implemented so I may have been unfair to the partitioner
[05:52] <nutshell42> the problem is not actually partitioning the disk
[05:52] <nutshell42> but specifying the mount points
[05:53] <SHRIKEE> lol
[05:53] <SHRIKEE> busted
[05:53] <nutshell42> or more precisely, choosing the root partition and giving it the mount point "/" doesn't seem to satisfy the installer
[05:53] <xsacha> nutshell42: would that be an extended partition? tried a primary?
[05:53] <nutshell42> it complains "no root file system"
[05:53] <nutshell42> xsacha: it's an extended, but:
[05:53] <SHRIKEE> i believe you need atleast a / and a /boot
[05:53] <nutshell42> a) I have a primary /boot partition
[05:53] <nutshell42> and
[05:54] <xsacha> dont need a /boot
[05:54] <nutshell42> b) if that's really its problem (i.e. it doesn't like extended partitions and doesn't accept the /boot) then that would be one useless error msg
[05:55] <xsacha> hehe, i think it just doesn't like extended partition as root
[05:55] <nutshell42> oh and the /boot partition is active
[05:55] <nutshell42> so it can't even be that
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> is /boot a primary partition>
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> ?
[05:55] <xsacha> yes
[05:55] <nutshell42> yes
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> k
[05:55] <exhale> does it matter though? linux doesnt care
[05:55] <nutshell42> if it doesn't like extendeds as root at all
[05:55] <exhale> k
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> i ' ve read somewhere that /boot needs to be a primary partition
[05:56] <exhale> well thats why all my partitions are primary :P
[05:56] <xsacha> but you can only have 4 primary partitions :S
[05:56] <exhale> true
[05:56] <exhale> i dont have more than 3 though
[05:56] <nutshell42> is there an install guide somewhere?
[05:56] <nutshell42> the doc on kubuntu don't seem to contain one
[05:57] <SHRIKEE> whats wrong with default partitioning
[05:57] <jerp> 15 minutes later: okie doke, I'll take the lack of response to my question to mean that you don't think I took a shower this morning and not that I had a stupid question.
[05:57] <blackflag> hello all :)
[05:57] <nutshell42> SHRIKEE: that I'd have to delete 160gigs worth of perfectly fine partitions just to amuse kubuntu?
[05:57] <nutshell42> =P
[05:57] <SHRIKEE> hmm thats sily
[05:57] <SHRIKEE> silly
[05:57] <xsacha> i just scrolled up an hour and didnt see your message jerp :S
[05:58] <cps1966> had to resort to debian java packages to get it to work
[05:58] <xsacha> oh you're jack_
[05:58] <jerp> yeah :)
[05:58] <blackflag> I just upgrade from dapper to edgy and I want to know where I can find the new hardware database manager ?
[05:58] <xsacha> dont get your question
[05:58] <jerp> xsacha: I'm just yanking your chain, or anyone elses along with ya
[05:58] <SHRIKEE> isnt edgy an older version?
[05:58] <jerp> nevermind
[05:59] <xsacha> edgy was released 2 days ago
[05:59] <SHRIKEE> ah i see, nm
[05:59] <jerp> xsacha: I'm just a pathetic newb
[05:59] <Trollinator> So what?
[05:59] <Trollinator> you're a newb, you're still expected to think for yourself...
[06:00] <jerp> a helplessly pathetic newb
[06:00] <jerp> Trollinator: what's a help channel for?
[06:01] <jerp> to swap recipes?
[06:01] <Trollinator> To give hints so that one can find the solution by himself... not more and not less
[06:01] <SHRIKEE> stop calling yourself pathetic, idiot
[06:01] <SHRIKEE> youre not
[06:01] <Kiongku> u should note that all helpes here are volunteers.. no one is obliged to help out to the end thought it may sounds rude
[06:01] <jerp> :)
[06:01] <Kiongku> helpes/helpers
[06:02] <xunix> ok guys.. enough for this day.. sooo tired :D
[06:02] <xunix> bubyee
[06:02] <johey> Anyone using Vice C64 emulator? apt-cache show vice tells " This package does not contain the various ROM images needed to actually use the emulators but includes a script which will attempt to download them from a number of well-known locations." Ok, but where is this script located and how do I run it?
[06:04] <some0ne> .
[06:04] <darkfinal> I've installed kubuntu-desktop in my Ubuntu installation since I've got bored of Gnome... and everything works perfect with KDE now, but I have NO sound...
[06:04] <jerp> After having read the greyed out text and taken time to consider it's meaning I have reconsidered and retract my inquire.  Thanks it's been a pleasure doing business with everyone. :)
[06:04] <SHRIKEE> ..
[06:04] <darkfinal> ALSA recognises both my sound cards (an AudigyLS and an integrated AC97) but there's no synth...
[06:04] <some0ne> darkfinal, Run kmix.
[06:05] <darkfinal> I have it running... but the synth list is empty.
[06:05] <some0ne> Hm
[06:05] <some0ne> That may have something to do with arts.
[06:05] <some0ne> Don't know.
[06:06] <some0ne> What kind of sound hardware you got there?
[06:06] <darkfinal> Copy/paste from KInfoCenter:
[06:07] <darkfinal> Audio devices: 0:NVidia CK804 (DUPLEX)  1: USB Audio  2: CA0106 (DUPLEX)
[06:07] <darkfinal> Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG (???)
[06:07] <RawSewage> I found a nice feature on Konversation today:  F6  (URL Catcher)
[06:07] <larson9999> johey: i use vice but i don't use that feature.  i use roms i downloaded
[06:07] <johey> larson9999: Ok.
[06:08] <johey> larson9999: Where do you put the roms then?
[06:09] <larson9999> johey: you can put them anywhere you want.  there is a dialogue that asks you what file you want to attach to which device
[06:11] <johey> larson9999: Hmm. As I start x64, it just quits with a message "C64MEM: Error - Couldn't load kernal ROM `kernal'. Machine initialization failed."
[06:12] <larson9999> johey: yeah, i got that too.  hmmm, i haven't used vice since i upgraded to edgy.
[06:12] <larson9999> johey: have to fix that.  i use vice a lot
[06:12] <johey> larson9999: Ok. I'll google for it for a while then.
[06:14] <SHRIKEE> is it any use to upgrade to edgy, from dapper?
[06:14] <SHRIKEE> or are there no big changes
[06:16] <ubuntu_> Hello, I'm switching from Ubuntu Dapper to Kubuntu edgy, but I'm having a problem with the installation. Right now I'm in the prepare mount points screen, the root directory is set but when I hit continue I get this: No root file sistem.
[06:17] <nutshell42> SHRIKEE: well, it fixed old problems and replaced them with a completely new set of things that desperatly need to be fixed =P
[06:17] <SHRIKEE> hmm
[06:17] <SHRIKEE> sounds bad
[06:17] <nutshell42> btw. installation seems to be working no, deleting and recreating the partition seems to have helped
[06:17] <nutshell42> ubuntu_: I had the same problem
[06:17] <SHRIKEE> thats good nutshell42
[06:17] <nutshell42> you have to delete the old root partition
[06:18] <nutshell42> and recreate it
[06:18] <Zerb_Riss> how do I change the allowed screen resolutions??
[06:18] <SHRIKEE> sounds like a newer version of /boot needs to be made...
[06:18] <Zerb_Riss> the stupid thing is only letting me use 1024x768
[06:18] <ubuntu_> nutshell42: Ok thanks I'll do that.
[06:18] <nutshell42> Zerb_Riss: in the system settings?
[06:18] <nutshell42> if it doesn't allow you higher resolutions there
[06:18] <ubuntu_> nutshell42: do you know why is that happening?
[06:19] <nutshell42> ubuntu_: because it's fubar =)
[06:19] <SHRIKEE> ubuntu_: version change probably
[06:19] <SHRIKEE> nutshell42: what kinda trouble you run in while using edgy? instead of dapper
[06:19] <joe_> anyone know how to install flash nine.  I just started using kebuntu yesterday and all the tutorials aren't working for me
[06:19] <nutshell42> Zerb_Riss: most likely the autodetection didn't work all that well
[06:20] <SHRIKEE> as of yet im not running into bugs or anything, im using dapper
[06:20] <SHRIKEE> joe, linux does not have flash nine afaik
[06:20] <nutshell42> SHRIKEE: that was just a joke; I've never seen a newer version of an OS that didn't just replace the old bugs with new ones
[06:20] <nutshell42> if it's a great update it reduces the number and severity
[06:20] <nutshell42> but nevertheless =)
[06:21] <SHRIKEE> right, nutshell42 i know that, but still. is it worth upgrading?
[06:21] <Zerb_Riss> nutshell42, I installed the nvidia driver and in KDE's syste settings it says I'm still using the nv driver instead of the nvidia driver
[06:21] <joe_> there is a new flash 9 beta test.  a lot of people have installed it correctly and it works
[06:21] <SHRIKEE> beta...
[06:21] <SHRIKEE> ah
[06:21] <SHRIKEE> finally flash 9 :D
[06:21] <nutshell42> SHRIKEE: I just tried the live-cd for half an hour and am now installing it; I really don't know
[06:21] <Blacken> So...is it me, or is dist-upgrading STILL a bad idea?
[06:22] <SHRIKEE> hmm k
[06:22] <St_MPA3b> why kde is better than gnome? :)
[06:22] <nutshell42> Zerb_Riss: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf - look for "nv" and replace it with "nvidia"
[06:22] <TehUni> Blacken: broke a few things for me.
[06:22] <TehUni> seems like a fresh install is the best idea, imo
[06:22] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, you just have to follow the instructions
[06:22] <ubuntu_> Does easyubuntu works for kde?
[06:22] <Zerb_Riss> !upgrade | Blacken
[06:22] <ubotu> Blacken: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:22] <nutshell42> Zerb_Riss: although if you can't set a higher resolution it's more likely that your monitor wasn't configured properly by the autodetection
[06:22] <Zerb_Riss> a bunch of packages were changed names
[06:22] <St_MPA3b> !kde
[06:22] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:23] <TehUni> alot of python stuff is screwed up for me now...
[06:23] <Zerb_Riss> TehUni, screwed up, or just being kept back?
[06:23] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: Sigh. I love that attitude. I installed before they wrote that. I went through the packages and looked at the stuff. It's not "not following instructions" that causes an Edgy dist-upgrade to die in a fire.
[06:23] <joe_> i've got the libflashplayer.so but have trouble putting it in firefox plugins
[06:23] <TehUni> Zerb_Riss: kept back.
[06:23] <Zerb_Riss> TehUni, follow the final instruction
[06:24] <Zerb_Riss> !upgrade TehUni
[06:24] <Zerb_Riss> !upgrade |ehUni
[06:24] <ubotu> ehUni: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:24] <Zerb_Riss> !upgrade | TehUni
[06:24] <ubotu> TehUni: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:24] <Zerb_Riss> sheesh lol
[06:24] <lontra> !mirrors
[06:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:24] <SHRIKEE> that tutorial sounds easy enough
[06:24] <nutshell42> joe_: what problems?
[06:24] <TehUni> joe_: cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[06:24] <St_MPA3b> plz say where kde is better than gnome...
[06:24] <St_MPA3b> plz say where kde is better than gnome...
[06:24] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, I realize that, but when they released the RC for Kubuntu they also said that there would be additional steps
[06:24] <Blacken> SHRIKEE: It's very easy. The problem is that it doesn't always work.
[06:24] <root> hi, i have very interesting problem, when i open kubuntu, in login screen , it doesnt accept my password, when i open console login, it accepts my password. how can i solve this ? my username is alex password is 123
[06:24] <SHRIKEE> hmm
[06:24] <SHRIKEE> not work as in
[06:25] <Zerb_Riss> the Kubuntu team is working on getting update-manager working with Kubuntu, but until then it's going to be a bit more painful
[06:25] <SHRIKEE> broken programs? or broken os
[06:25] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: I installed it the day of Edgy "release." Oddly enough, Edgy's "release" is far, far more screwy than the Knots were.
[06:25] <ruisu> yeah, um, does anybody know why in fstab, they used UUIS' instead of /dev/hda's?
[06:25] <Blacken> SHRIKEE: In the case of my first install, the latter. My second, the former.
[06:25] <SHRIKEE> ...
[06:25] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, I had no problems when I followed the instructions in the RC email exactly
[06:25] <TehUni> mmm
[06:25] <TehUni> will try that now, thanks alot.
[06:25] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: That's great for you. I've heard an earful of broken boxes.
[06:25] <SHRIKEE> strange that it differs per user ;)
[06:26] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, I have had some break, but they were all repaired through apt
[06:26] <Blacken> ruisu: I have no idea whatsoever. It makeths no sense.
[06:26] <root> people, how can i add new user to kubuntu **?
[06:26] <Blacken> root:  adduser
[06:26] <joe_> the package for flash 9 is flash-player-plugin-9.0.21.55
[06:26] <ruisu> Blaken:yes, and i think that broke my "other os" mount point...
[06:26] <serenity> hi
[06:27] <ruisu> hi
[06:27] <SHRIKEE> sounds to me the upgrade is unstable
[06:27] <SHRIKEE> *doesnt do it yet*
[06:27] <serenity> is here someone with the RL name "Niels"?
[06:27] <Blacken> SHRIKEE: In my experience, it's considerably more unstable than the *beta* CDs.
[06:27] <Blacken> Well, no.
[06:27] <Blacken> Edgy CDs seem to be working flawlessly.
[06:27] <Zerb_Riss> SHRIKEE, if you follow those upgrade instructions you won't have any problems
[06:27] <SHRIKEE> hmm
[06:27] <root> Blacken: it says only one or two names are allowed
[06:27] <joe_> how do I paste a file libflashplayer.so from my desktop to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[06:27] <Zerb_Riss> }
[06:28] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: Don't lie to the people. "You PROBABLY" won't have any problems."
[06:28] <ruisu> is it safe to write back with the hda's?
[06:28] <Blacken> Maybe even "You MIGHT" not have any problems.
[06:28] <Blacken> ruisu: Unknown, I wouldn't try it.
[06:28] <SHRIKEE> blacken, i guess it depends on what programs you use if it works or not
[06:28] <SHRIKEE> im using a fairly default install and nothing custom compiled
[06:28] <ruisu> hmm, ok, thanks, ill mount manually
[06:28] <ruisu> gbye
[06:28] <johey> larson9999: They shall be in /usr/lib/vice and they can be found at funet. However, in that package one file name is misspelled (kernel instead of kernal) and one is missing (C64/chargen).
[06:28] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, just because you had problems by not following the instructions doesn't mean other people will by following them
[06:29] <root> hi, i have very interesting problem, when i open kubuntu, in login screen , it doesnt accept my password, when i open console login, it accepts my password. how can i solve this ? my username is alex password is 123
[06:29] <SHRIKEE> lol Zerb_Riss
[06:29] <Zerb_Riss> I've had no problems when following those instructions
[06:29] <johey> larson9999: Have you any idea where to find that chargen file?
[06:29] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: I was one of the people who was around when the instructions were BEING WRITTEN. I was one of the first people to try them on my second dist-upgrade. They DO NOT WORK for everyone.
[06:29] <SHRIKEE> how long does the update take, Zerb_Riss?
[06:29] <Blacken> Can I make this any more crystal bloody clear?
[06:30] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, no because it's untrue.
[06:30] <t> hello everybody
[06:30] <Zerb_Riss> some people are having prob
[06:30] <SHRIKEE> oh stop fighting you 2
[06:30] <Zerb_Riss> lems*
[06:30] <TehUni> mmm... it's safe to upgrade all these held back packages?
[06:30] <SHRIKEE> what are held back packages?
[06:30] <TehUni> python, mainly
[06:30] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: I will direct you to ubuntuforums where...uh...most of a freaking bajillion people are having trouble.
[06:30] <Zerb_Riss> 99% of them have unofficial repositories or didn't follow the instructions that the Kubuntu team released with the RC
[06:31] <ivan> buenas, tengo un problema con el sonido despues de actualizar a dapper
[06:31] <Zerb_Riss> TehUni, yes, it's recommended
[06:31] <TehUni> ok, cool
[06:31] <TehUni> thanks
[06:31] <Blacken> They have unofficial repositories because there's no way AROUND having unofficial repositories.
[06:31] <SHRIKEE> why are they held back?
[06:31] <feldegast> TehUni: i found that the cdromupgrade upgraded python
[06:31] <t> can anyone help me with a problem after upgrading > edgy
[06:31] <SHRIKEE> grr
[06:31] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, no, they have unoffical repositories because the Ubuntu team has legal restrictions on what they can include in theirs
[06:31] <SHRIKEE> Zerb_Riss: how long does a web-upgrade take?
[06:32] <ivan> i lost my sound after updating from breezy to dapper
[06:32] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: Exactly. There's no sane way around having unofficial repos.
[06:32] <t> >ivan no creo que hay tanta gente hablando espanol
[06:32] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, and they want that software. It's always recommended to disable any repositories that are not official when you dist-upgrade
[06:32] <Zerb_Riss> SHRIKEE, depends on your net connection. Took me about 20 minutes
[06:32] <Blacken> And from a cursory look at Ubuntuforums, almost 50% of people had serious or system-breaking problems, and another 35% had "a few problems".
[06:32] <SHRIKEE> i manage fine withouu iunoficial reps
[06:33] <SHRIKEE> k , Zerb_Riss.. im gonna try and upgrade ;)
[06:33] <SHRIKEE> bbiab
[06:33] <Blacken> Hmm. I'm going to go out on a limb and say there are problems, seeing as how the numbers for Breezy->Dapper were never this bad.
[06:33] <Zerb_Riss> I disagree
[06:33] <Zerb_Riss> people are having more trouble because they aren't looking for or following the directions
[06:33] <ivan> i have a ac97 sound card
[06:34] <feldegast> ivan: that doesn't mean much.....what drivers does it use?
[06:34] <Blacken> That's nice. Maybe it should be a more intelligent installer, then. As it is, the numbers of people who had broken systems (according to a Breezy->Dapper poll) was 4%. 4% to 45%. I wonder...
[06:35] <johey> larson9999: I downloaded WinVICE and found the rom in there. Now it works.
[06:35] <ivan> snd-ac97-codec i think
[06:35] <feldegast> the cdromupgrade uses the core repositories, does the upgrade and then resets them
[06:36] <larson9999> johey: i think it might be a plf thing.
[06:36] <johey> larson9999: plf?
[06:36] <larson9999> johey: thanks for the info
[06:36] <ivan> i've tried with modconf to stop it but it tells my that it is in use
[06:36] <larson9999> penquin liberation front
[06:36] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, maybe so, but update-manager isn't compatible with Kubuntu still. People who used update-manager in Gnome shouldn't have had problems
[06:36] <johey> larson9999: Lol, yes. :)
[06:37] <feldegast> ivan: try disabling it in the bios?
[06:37] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: And GNOME sucks. Next question! Seriously though--there is no excuse for having official distros that can't do something as simple as upgrading without exploding.
[06:37] <larson9999> johey: it's down and i think i used to get vice from there.  maybe it included the rom
[06:38] <larson9999> johey: anyway.  thanks for the info
[06:38] <ivan> how can i know it?
[06:38] <larson9999> on 2nd thought things don't seem exactly right.  i think i'll do a fresh install of edgy after all
[06:39] <ivan> with breezy i had no problems
[06:39] <Blacken> larson9999: That's the smartest way to do it (most unfortunately).
[06:39] <johey> larson9999: I don't know about that... I'm using dapper and have not yet updated my system. Still I had those vice problems.
[06:39] <larson9999> Blacken: well the upgrade did work and i don't see anything that i can prove isn't right but it just doesn't 'feel right'
[06:39] <feldegast> ivan: i don't use onboard sound, i found it caused too much conflict with other things, not to mention took resources away from the cpu
[06:40] <feldegast> try disabling the ac97 in the bios, then re-enabling it?
[06:40] <johey> larson9999: Do you know if there is some alternative GUI for Vice? This lesstif thingy is, imho, totally unusable.
[06:40] <larson9999> johey: where did you get vice from?
[06:41] <feldegast> if it is an nforce board u might need newer nforce drivers
[06:41] <johey> larson9999: multiverse
[06:41] <ivan> ok, i'll try
[06:41] <St_MPA3b> plz say where kde is better than gnome...
[06:41] <ivan> thankyou
[06:41] <joe_> I've always used windowsxp and have spent 3 days trying to simple tasks like installing flash so I can use metacafe.com would I be better off going to mepis or linspire?
[06:41] <larson9999> johey: then it might be a plf thing.  i always got it from plf.
[06:41] <johey> larson9999: Ah, so plf is a repository?
[06:42] <larson9999> johey yeah.  has non free stuff
[06:42] <larson9999> johey: and things that are in the 'grey area'
[06:42] <t> hi, can so hlp me with a problem after upgrading
[06:42] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: down to personal preference, if you are used to windows then you will probable find kde easier to get on with
[06:42] <t> scrolling works terribly
[06:42] <johey> larson9999: I see.
[06:43] <johey> larson9999: Do you know if there is some alternative GUI for Vice? This lesstif thingy is, imho, totally unusable.
[06:43] <DrZoot> i dont know why people always pidgeon hole kde as the "windows clone"
[06:43] <larson9999> johey: so it wouldn't have an issue including the rom whereas ubuntu might
[06:43] <larson9999> johey: i don't know.  the default worked for me.
[06:43] <johey> larson9999: Ok.
[06:43] <joe_> gatekeeper isnt kubuntu kde
[06:44] <larson9999> DrZoot: because it looks like windows?
[06:44] <t> hi, can so hlp me with a problem after upgrading - scrolling hangs terribly
[06:44] <TheGateKeeper> joe_: kubuntu uses KDE as the default desktop
[06:44] <DrZoot> larson9999: as far as im aware just about every gui ever made could be compared to windows, theres only so many ways you can solve the problem
[06:45] <larson9999> DrZoot: sure.  but when just about everyone has used windows, that's what gets picked.
[06:45] <feldegast> t which graphics drivers?
[06:46] <bobbyyu> Hi, I'm having trouble setting up a network with my Windows computer. I am trying to share my Windows mounts and make it writable
[06:46] <t> hmmm, how do i find out?
[06:46] <larson9999> DrZoot: when you put the task menu at the bottom, have a sys tray on the right, have a quick launch on the left, and have a start button on the bottom left, you're going to be considered a windows clone
[06:46] <some0ne> How do you find out what?
[06:46] <feldegast> t what video card do you have?
[06:47] <larson9999> DrZoot: notice gnome has most of those at the top by default and isn't as often called a windows clone.
[06:47] <TheGateKeeper> bobbyyu: if you create a share on a windows machine you can use konqueror to navigate to it
[06:47] <joe_> dr Zoot, I want to linux not windows, but the learning curve is taking too long, I've beenreading tutorials and forums and I can follow directions, but still cant accomplish in 3 days what it took my 10 seconds in windows to do.
[06:47] <bobbyyu> I know that. But what about the other way around
[06:47] <some0ne> joe_, What are you trying to do?
[06:47] <bobbyyu> I want to create a share on the Linux machine so the Windows machine can see it
[06:48] <joe_> someone, i was trying to install flash 9 beta plugin in firefox
[06:48] <TheGateKeeper> bobbyyu: in that case you need samba
[06:48] <some0ne> bobbyyu, Use samba.
[06:48] <bobbyyu> So that the Windows mount on my LInux box can be shared to the Windows Machine
[06:48] <t> s3 savage
[06:48] <TheGateKeeper> !samba > bobbyyu
[06:48] <johey> larson9999: I remove vice and compile it myself.
[06:48] <t> its a t20 thinkpad
[06:49] <TheGateKeeper> bobbyyu: install samba then go to system settings --> share & set the share up
[06:49] <larson9999> johey: oh, that might do it as well.
[06:49] <bobbyyu> I did all the basic steps
[06:49] <DrZoot> joe_: heh, when i first started using linux i decided to drop myself in at the deep end and see if i could swim, my first ever distro was debian potato (2.x ??) with the craptastic text installer. Going from absolutely no linux experience it took 4 days and about 40 formats/installs before i got it right
[06:49] <bobbyyu> But the trouble is, Samba doesn't allow my Windows machine to see what's in the linux box
[06:49] <TheGateKeeper> bobbyyu: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server
[06:50] <t> ok ill try sth, thanks so far felde seeya
[06:50] <joe_> dr zoot, is that supposed to encourge me, I'm pretty savvy on figuring stuff out, I just don't have the patience to go through all that.
[06:52] <DrZoot> joe_: im not sure I was trying to encourage, linux is powerful and flexible but its nothing like windows, imho theres a totally different mindset involved
[06:52] <TheGateKeeper> !flash9
[06:52] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:52] <TheGateKeeper> joe_: ^^^^^
[06:52] <lontra> anyone know how i can make kwallet remember my WEP for knetworkmanager
[06:53] <DrZoot> joe_: its well worth the effort though
[06:53] <TheGateKeeper> joe_: if you want a distro with loads of stuff pre-installed try kanotix
[06:55] <DrZoot> i may be masochistic but my favourite distro is gentoo, I just cbf arguing with it to make all the hardware on my laptop work so I went with kubuntu for something different
[06:55] <TheGateKeeper> feldegast: likes living dangerously lol
[06:55] <feldegast> definatly :D
[06:55] <joe_> kanotix, maybe. gotta go thanks
[06:55] <LjL> !automatix | feldegast
[06:55] <ubotu> feldegast: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[06:56] <feldegast> ubotu: noted, it worked for me but i only installed a small number of components
[06:56] <larson9999> anyone here running edgy and have wine .23 or .24 running ok?
[06:56] <some0ne> larson9999, I'm using wine to run Fireworks 8.
[06:57] <some0ne> larson9999, I don't know what version. But I'm running it. & I'm using the AMD64 arch.
[06:57] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: your the 2nd gentoo person I seen in here today, using (k)ubuntu what's going on lol
[06:57] <some0ne> Which is supposed to be extra hard.
[06:57] <some0ne> TheGateKeeper, I'm a Gentoo user as well.
[06:57] <larson9999> some0ne: which version?  the on in the ubuntu repository or did you get it from the winehq repos?
[06:58] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: I love gentoo but its just to difficult on a laptop
[06:58] <TheGateKeeper> omg that's 3
[06:58] <some0ne> larson9999, I did some hackish things which you won't have to do if you're using a 32 bit system. The .deb package was from winehq.
[06:58] <feldegast> but went with kubuntu
[06:59] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: what about kororaa or sabayon?
[06:59] <some0ne> DrZoot, I'm using it on a laptop right now. =)
[06:59] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: Setting up hardware in linux can be painful enough but when your travelling around trying to get your stuff to work with everyone elses its a nighmare (at least it was in my experience)
[06:59] <TheGateKeeper> some0ne: dapper or edgy?
[07:00] <some0ne> Edgy.
[07:00] <some0ne> I'm using Gentoo on the laptop, not Kubuntu.
[07:00] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: I havent looked at kororaa in a long time, last i looked it was only a livecd dist, havent heard of sabayon
[07:00] <some0ne> I'm using Kubuntu on the desktop.
[07:00] <ubuntu__> Hi
[07:00] <xsacha> well kororaa is a livecd, but it has install option
[07:01] <DrZoot> yeah, its been ages since ive even looked at it
[07:01] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: I am downloading via torrent to take a look
[07:01] <zorglu_> xsacha: it has xgl already configured isnt it ?
[07:01] <xsacha> yes
[07:01] <DrZoot> im fairly happy with kubuntu atm, my linux roots were in debian so im fairly familiar with the setup
[07:02] <xsacha> it was one of first distros to package xgl
[07:02] <zorglu_> maybe i should retry it then. i would like to see what is xgl
[07:02] <ubuntu__> so kubuntu or ubuntu_
[07:02] <zorglu_> i tried it once before but it didnt want to boot
[07:02] <mick-w> yoyo
[07:02] <DrZoot> im actually happy to use the xserver ati driver and have working suspend, xgl makes suspend difficult
[07:02] <xsacha> zorglu_: then it probably wont boot now either :)
[07:02] <DrZoot> actually i think its fglrx that is the problem
[07:03] <xsacha> i use aiglx/open source drivers
[07:03] <zorglu_> xsacha: well maybe they fixed the issue which caused the boot issue. in theory my laptop graphic card is supported by xgl
[07:03] <feldegast> zorglu_: Kororaa 0.2 has xgl on the cd, 0.3 has the prorietry ati/nvidia drivers removed so u need to install it before xgl will work on those cards
[07:03] <DrZoot> o rly? works well?
[07:03] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: my problem with edgy is I don't exactly trust what will happen if I try to upgrade, & firefox 2 has nobled all the extensions
[07:03] <zorglu_> feldegast: i got a intel chip set 915
[07:04] <feldegast> zorglu_: then u r set
[07:04] <frankkm> My problem with edgy is that adept doesn't work correct
[07:04] <zorglu_> my problem with edgy is the deceiving announcement :)
[07:04] <feldegast> if you don't have nvidia/ati for graphics
[07:04] <xsacha> yeah people complained about propietry drivers being packed with it
[07:05] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: Yeah, I just upgraded Kubuntu to edgy and although the upgrade seemed to work there was alot of broken stuff
[07:05] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: in the end i just nuked the system and did a clean install
[07:05] <some0ne> Proprietary drivers are bad.
[07:05] <feldegast> xsacha: which is strange cos lots of distro's did that
[07:05] <TheGateKeeper> frankkm: use synaptic or possible kpackage, adept is awfull anyway
[07:05] <some0ne> I'm involved in a business that will be selling Kubuntu / Ubuntu machines with Beryl installed as the default WM and we proudly have a no blob policy. =)
[07:06] <zorglu_> some0ne: blob = ?
[07:06] <larson9999> the only thing i can see that doesn't work for me in edgy is wine.  and the fonts look a bit off.  not so much bad just different than in dapper
[07:06] <DrZoot> Why did they change adept in the latest release? I thought it was really good and now it seems like its been redesigned for children
[07:06] <larson9999> i'm doing a fresh install anyway
[07:06] <xsacha> wine doesnt work from upgrade?
[07:06] <feldegast> some0ne: great, but xgl makes stuff not work (like adjusting display properties in kde)
[07:07] <DrZoot> imo xgl isnt worth it yet, to many problems for a little bit of eye candy
[07:07] <newmedian> Is anyone running daemontools (for djbnds) on Edgy? Edgy doesn't seem to be respecting my SV:123456:respawn:/command/svscanboot in inittab.
[07:07] <zorglu_> DrZoot: it is why it is good on livecd :)
[07:07] <mick-w> what new eye candy? new kde or something?
[07:07] <larson9999> xsacha: doesn't for me.  it worked after 'apt-get upgrade' but not after 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[07:07] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: u'r kde user?
[07:07] <zorglu_> DrZoot: you play with it but dont dammage box which must run
[07:08] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: well I am not willing to do a fresh install every 6 months so I am now looking for a replacement that I can be happy with
[07:08] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: yep
[07:08] <some0ne> feldegast, AIGLX.
[07:09] <some0ne> some0ne, Only ati's drivers force don't use AIGLX.
[07:09] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: its not for everyone but I found that gentoo ages very well, upgrades tend not to break things but recompiling can be a pain
[07:10] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: can u show me screenshot?
[07:10] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: well it does seem that is where I am heading, other possibilities are kanotix (too much installed by default) or may be arch
[07:10] <some0ne> zorglu_, Blob, as in closed source binary.
[07:12] <axiom> kmail: is there any way to write inline links in outgoing messages?  Like <a href='http://google.com'>foo</a>
[07:12] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: yeah that was another thing I loved about gentoo, it comes preinstalled with just about nothing, by the time your finished setting it up you know every single program on the system, no surprises
[07:12] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: http://shots.osdir.com/
[07:13] <larson9999> i was going to try gentoo but i figured i'd have less to compile if i went with lfs
[07:13] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: ty
[07:13] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: yw :-)
[07:13] <St_MPA3b> Are here any firefox + beryl users?
[07:13] <some0ne> St_MPA3b, Anyone who uses Beryl is most likely using Firefox.
[07:13] <St_MPA3b> some0ne: i have but with em :(
[07:13] <DrZoot> why is kdevelop not in edgy ><
[07:14] <some0ne> St_MPA3b, What?
[07:14] <xsacha> it is drzoot
[07:14] <xsacha> in repository..
[07:14] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: much as I like kubuntu, 2 things are driving me away, unreliable upgrade path, & it's slow compared to other distros
[07:14] <DrZoot> yeah, its prolly my repos
[07:14] <feldegast> xsacha: it was removed during my upgrade
[07:15] <xsacha> install it again?
[07:15] <some0ne> TheGateKeeper, That's because it has to do everything.
[07:15] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: yeah it is alot slower .... damnit the more I talk to you the more I convince myself I should go back to gentoo again ><
[07:15] <xsacha> go to CRUX :)
[07:15] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: I use firefox 1.5, not 2 because none of the extension work :-(
[07:16] <david_> TheGateKeeper: it's slow because of the 386 kernel
[07:16] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: i have the solution
[07:16] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: try arch
[07:16] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: install MrTech Locan Install and make all ext compataible
[07:16] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: can u give me a list of extensions?
[07:17] <david_> does anyone know where the 686 binary kernel has gone from (k)ubuntu?
[07:17] <TheGateKeeper> david_: well I wish they would they would provide an i686 varient
[07:17] <david_> yeah, they used to
[07:17] <Tm_T> It's all "generic" now.
[07:17] <david_> I mean you can always apt-get kernel-source. with make-kpkg
[07:17] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: well most important is google notes & bookmark sync
[07:18] <david_> why have they removed the 686 build?
[07:18] <ubuntu_> hey, i would like much to know how to update to edgy (am on dapper) is it by changing every dapper to edgy in the sources.list file
[07:18] <ubuntu_> ?
[07:18] <david_> ubuntu_ yep.
[07:18] <feldegast> they removed the amd64 extra kernels too
[07:18] <david_> then run apt-get update
[07:18] <ubuntu_> ok thnx
[07:18] <david_> and apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:18] <ubuntu_> bye
[07:18] <david_> bye then
[07:18] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: bookmarc sync -> foxmarks (it's really better).
[07:20] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: and whats goodle notes?
[07:21] <newmedian> When I upgraded to Edgy, by default it is giving me only 1 of my cores. If you do a dmesg|more early on I get WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached.  Processor ignored.
[07:21] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: ok thanx, google notes <--- I miss spelt it
[07:21] <david_> newmedian: for some reason it's running a very old kernel
[07:22] <david_> we're not sure why they've changed this.
[07:22] <david_> well
[07:22] <pielgrzym> !pastebin
[07:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:22] <david_> it's a new kernel
[07:22] <david_> but, compiled for old machines
[07:22] <bobbyyu> Where can I find diskmounter? I need to write access my Windows mounts.
[07:22] <axiom> Kmail links:  Guess not.  Go vote for this bug then.  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136468
[07:23] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: =/
[07:23] <newmedian> david, I was hearing anecdotally that switching to the "generic" enabled more cores? but that people were experiencing issues with the "generic" one.
[07:23] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: what google notes for?
[07:23] <larson9999> that pastebin doesn't seem to allow screenshots.
[07:23] <david_> newmedian: the only kernel build left is generic
[07:23] <bobbyyu> !diskmounter
[07:23] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:23] <david_> all others just point to that
[07:24] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: I use it as a way of making notes particularly about linux as I pick up little tips, also means I have access to those notes on multiple machines
[07:25] <newmedian> david, would you know anything about the new startup procedure for Edgy? It seems to be ignoring my SV:123456:respawn:/command/svscanboot line in /etc/inittab
[07:26] <TheGateKeeper> david_: should I install linux-image-2.6.15-27-686 then ?
[07:27] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: can u give me homepage? Can't google it o_O
[07:28] <david_> TheGateKeeper: what cpu do you ahve?
[07:28] <TheGateKeeper> larson9999: I see the new pastebin doesn't but the old one used to, yet another backwards step :-(
[07:29] <TheGateKeeper> david_: on this Athlon XP2200+
[07:29] <david_> you'd want k7 then
[07:29] <david_> however, they seem to have not made 2.6.17 builds of all these yet
[07:30] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: possible calling it Google Notebook, but amounts to the same thing: https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=notebook&passive=true&nui=1&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fnotebook%2Fdownload%3Fcontinue%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252Fnotebook
[07:31] <TheGateKeeper> david_: I got one of them too (k7)
[07:32] <TheGateKeeper> david_: linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7
[07:32] <ketsugi> How do I theme kdm in Edgy?
[07:32] <ketsugi> I installed the kdmtheme package
[07:33] <ketsugi> but I don't see any KDM theme item in my System Settings
[07:33] <ketsugi> oh nvm
[07:33] <ketsugi> I found it in kcontrol
[07:33] <Marc_> if i uninstall kubuntu will i lose all my stuff on the drive?
[07:33] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: it works for me
[07:33] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: i mean extension
[07:34] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: on Firefox 2 ?
[07:34] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: no, on 4.2 :).
[07:34] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: ofc on 2.0
[07:35] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: just checking because someone told me otherwise the other day
[07:35] <ketsugi> I can't seem to use Administrator Mode in anything
[07:35] <TheGateKeeper> david_: you reckon I should install that?
[07:35] <ketsugi> I get this error on the CLI: kdesu (kdelibs): WARNING: No X authentication info set for display :1.0
[07:35] <VanessaE> hiho
[07:36] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: y... works...
[07:36] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: woow
[07:36] <ketsugi> Only happens when using Beryl
[07:38] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: ok thanx for the info
[07:38] <SHRIKEE> booM!
[07:38] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: you new to kubuntu?
[07:38] <CVirus> !upgrade
[07:38] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:38] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: ^_^. i'm gnomer
[07:39] <Ahmuck> azerus does not work in edgy ?
[07:39] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: ahhh
[07:39] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: 6th day in linux. Ubuntu is my 1st distib, i havent worked in any other
[07:39] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: u use beryl?
[07:39] <SHRIKEE> heh Blacken, i just upgraded with no troubles
[07:40] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: collection of usefull bits & pieces I have found ---> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[07:40] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: nope I don't use beryl
[07:40] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: ty.
[07:40] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: yw :-)
[07:41] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: u have tryed beryl?
[07:41] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: I have looked at xgl seen videos & never bothered with it as it doesn't seem to serve any usefull purpose at least not for me
[07:42] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: nope ^^^
[07:42] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: cube is really useful
[07:42] <TheGateKeeper> food, back is a bit...
[07:42] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: imagine the cube with 4 viewports on it
[07:42] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: and u can turn it
[07:43] <xdemon> hi
[07:43] <xdemon> i need help
[07:43] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: it's fast ant nice
[07:43] <St_MPA3b> xdemon: ok
[07:43] <xdemon> !dosfschk
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dosfschk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <St_MPA3b> xD
[07:43] <SHRIKEE> where did powercontrol go, in edgy?
[07:43] <xdemon> how i can skip noisy windows disk checking, dosfschk?
[07:43] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: I know seen the videos, back in a bit off for food...
[07:45] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: ok)
[07:46] <SHRIKEE> wtf
[07:46] <SHRIKEE> why is half of my acpi disabled in edgy :(
[07:47] <jp__> Hi
[07:48] <Blacken> SHRIKEE: Just run the helper application in the power config; it'll fix you up.
[07:48] <SHRIKEE> i did, it wont
[07:49] <SHRIKEE> shrikee@shrikee-laptop:~$ acpi -V
[07:49] <SHRIKEE>      Battery 1: charging, 99%, charging at zero rate - will never fully charge.
[07:49] <SHRIKEE> No support for device type: thermal
[07:49] <SHRIKEE>   AC Adapter 1: on-line
[07:49] <SHRIKEE> what does that mean :S
[07:49] <SHRIKEE> will never fully charge...
[07:49] <SHRIKEE> wtf
[07:50] <reon> Are the PLF repos down ?
[07:50] <shadowhywind> hi all, i was in here the other day about nvidia not allowing me to start x after reboot. It comes up with no screens found, any ideas?
[07:51] <rand_> lol pk je me retrouve ici moi
[07:51] <wildchild> how do I locate share files with samba:
[07:51] <wildchild> samba:/ ??
[07:51] <reon> shadowhywind, try sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg or something liket that
[07:51] <SHRIKEE> smb:/
[07:51] <rand_> je comprend pas j'ai dmarr linux et il m'a connect d'office  ce chan
[07:52] <shadowhywind> that will reconfigure back to kubuntu drivers, i need to use nvidia drivers
[07:52] <SHRIKEE> blacken, i got the panels now, i needed to reload kcontrol
[07:52] <reon> shadowhywind, have you installed the nvidia drivers ?
[07:52] <shadowhywind> yes, thats the problem, there is a file that i have to delete and i don't remember which one
[07:52] <shadowhywind> there is some confusion with kubuntu nvidia drivers and nvidia drivers
[07:53] <reon> shadowhywind, are you using nv or nvidia drivers ?
[07:53] <reon> shadowhywind, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255929
[07:53] <shadowhywind> i installed from the nvidia website, so i believe i am using the nvidia drivers
[07:54] <bobbyyu> I used Diskmounter, and I can't mount the Windows mounts to be writable
[07:54] <reon> shadowhywind, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255929
[07:54] <bobbyyu> Is there something I did wrong?
[07:54] <wildchild> how can I install xgl or x (3d desktop) on kubuntu 6.10 ?
[07:55] <felipe__> I can't find the nvidia-glx package in the repos, only the legacy drivers are in there.
[07:56] <bobbyyu> Can someone help?
[07:56] <reon> felipe, look at the 2 links I just listed
[07:56] <felipe__> reon: ok
[07:57] <reon> bobbyyu, why not just follow the procedure in the wiki
[07:58] <bobbyyu> I did
[07:58] <bobbyyu> Which wiki are you referring to?
[07:59] <wildchild> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:59] <wildchild> can someone help?
[08:00] <wildchild> this happened while I was installing java
[08:00] <Ahmuck_> !lock
[08:00] <fdoving> !adept crash fix | wildchild
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <ubotu> wildchild: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[08:00] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: you trying to apt-get while adept is open or something like that?
[08:00] <bobbyyu> !diskmounter
[08:00] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:00] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: ohh
[08:00] <bobbyyu> !fuse
[08:00] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:01] <wildchild> fdoving: tnx
[08:01] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: use the konsol & apt-get to install java
[08:03] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: should I install linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7 if I have an Athlon XP2200+ & will it add an option to menu.lst?
[08:03] <bobbyyu> reon: which wiki are you refferring to?
[08:04] <wildchild> is there another way to fix sun-java5-jre package beside sudo apt-get -f sun-java5-jre ?
[08:04] <_ShoGo_> hi, has been kubuntu edgy released?
[08:04] <TheGateKeeper> _ShoGo_: yep
[08:06] <_ShoGo_> how can i update?
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Live CD issue
[08:06] <DaSkreech> _ShoGo_: sudo apt-get update
[08:06] <_ShoGo_> DaSkreech, are u sure?
[08:06] <DaSkreech> _ShoGo_: I don't know
[08:06] <DaSkreech>  what' the problem?
[08:06] <_ShoGo_> lol
[08:07] <_ShoGo_> i answered about how to upgrade to edgy
[08:07] <_ShoGo_> m8
[08:07] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: new kernels will be added to menu.lst yes.
[08:07] <DaSkreech> _ShoGo_: Answered or asked?
[08:07] <_ShoGo_> yeah, asked
[08:07] <DaSkreech> How do I see the boot messages in Edgy?
[08:07] <_ShoGo_> sorry bout my english. I'm not a native english
[08:07] <DaSkreech> !upgrade > _ShoGo_
[08:07] <_ShoGo_> !upgrade
[08:07] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:07] <_ShoGo_> thanks
[08:07] <DaSkreech> _ShoGo_: No problem just want to make sure I'm giving you want you want
[08:07] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: do you have the -generic kernel? did you try linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 ?
[08:07] <DaSkreech> Sure
[08:08] <mr_> ghjghj
[08:08] <DaSkreech> fdoving: esc on the usplash screen should give mteh bootm essages right?
[08:08] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: downgrading to 2.6.15 isn't smart. is this edgy or dapper? (i've assumed edgy)
[08:08] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: I have what ever came with basic install
[08:08] <fdoving> DaSkreech: don't know with edgy. I don't boot very often, sorry.
[08:08] <DaSkreech> fdoving: me either :()
[08:08] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: ohhhh no I am still using dapper
[08:09] <DaSkreech> I'm trying to use a Live CD to test someone's machine
[08:09] <DaSkreech>  it was booting fine
[08:09] <DaSkreech> then I moved the machine ot this house and now it won't boot
[08:09] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: ah.. then try the -k7 one.
[08:09] <fdoving> hmm..
[08:09] <DaSkreech>  I don't know where the issue is cause the stupid usplash doesn't have meeasges
[08:09] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: hmm that looks a bad idea after all
[08:10] <fdoving> it should be one of the F-keys.. iirc..
[08:11] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: i think you want -k7, why would it be a bad idea?
[08:11] <Kiongku> hey guys know wher ethe equivalent of inittab is in kubuntu?
[08:11] <fdoving> Kiongku: /etc/event.d/ - what do you want to do?
[08:12] <Kiongku> fdoving: adding entrance login manager
[08:12] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: I just looked at the moment I have 2.6.15-27-386 so if I move to the -k7 things should get better?
[08:12] <fdoving> Kiongku: hum? how does that work?
[08:12] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: i think so.
[08:13] <Kiongku> fdoving: replaces kdm
[08:13] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: right here goes, thanx :-)
[08:13] <fdoving> Kiongku: why do you need to edit inittab (or the replacement) ?
[08:13] <Kiongku> fdoving: just looking. still not sure of it
[08:14] <rolando> hi
[08:14] <rolando> how can i install a dep package using konsole?
[08:14] <jende_> Howdy
[08:14] <fdoving> roland: 'sudo dpkg -i package.deb'
[08:14] <rolando> ok thanx
[08:14] <g00lan> tjena
[08:16] <Commander-Crowe> where is synaptics in Kubuntu?
[08:16] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: nowhere
[08:16] <Commander-Crowe> there isn't one?
[08:17] <MasterEvilAce> use Adept
[08:17] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: nope, but therefor we have ADEPT
[08:19] <nub> I just installed Kubuntu in text-mode, it restarted, I logged in, but now it's sitting on a command line and I don't know what to do.
[08:19] <reon> shadowhywind, try sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg or something liket that
[08:19] <rolando> nub log int and write startx
[08:19] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: or you just want to use apt on the console
[08:20] <Commander-Crowe> yeah but I can't find what I want in apt
[08:20] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: what do you want to do?
[08:21] <Commander-Crowe> install ICeWM or JWM
[08:21] <Commander-Crowe> iceWM*
[08:21] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: have you got the repos in your sources?
[08:22] <Commander-Crowe> I havn't added anything new
[08:22] <nub> Can someone help me? The computer just booted up in a black and white text-mode. I entered my login and pass, but it just gives me the command line. How do I get it to the GUI?
[08:22] <TheGateKeeper> nub: try Ctrl + Alt + F7
[08:22] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: pastebin your sources; you knoe how to do it?
[08:23] <Commander-Crowe> jende_ I think so
[08:23] <jende_> !paste
[08:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:23] <TheGateKeeper> universe
[08:23] <Commander-Crowe> but i can't remember where the source list is
[08:23] <TheGateKeeper>  /etc/sources.list
[08:23] <nerth> hi everybody again
[08:23] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:23] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[08:24] <DaSkreech> nub: Where are you logged in from?
[08:25] <nub> What do you mean?
[08:25] <ruisu> yi, hehe, i got problems with my ati P
[08:25] <ruisu> :P
[08:25] <DaSkreech> nub: are you logged in on the command line?
[08:25] <nub> yea
[08:25] <nub> I haven't even seen a GUI yet.
[08:26] <DaSkreech> nub: did you type startx ?
[08:26] <ruisu> something is happening with the grafics, they get freezed, i mean, the wont update, and some of them wonth show
[08:26] <nub> i just typed that and it says fatal server error: no screens found
[08:27] <DaSkreech> nub: Ah
[08:27] <DaSkreech> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:27] <jende_> ruisu: what?
[08:27] <nub> kk
[08:27] <ruisu> i think its the drivers, how could i uninstallit_
[08:28] <ruisu> what, i cant see XD, ill post 2more lines
[08:28] <ruisu> =
[08:28] <ruisu> or 4 P
[08:28] <ruisu> ok,
[08:29] <ruisu> so, my grafics driver seems bugy, its an ati , the ati drivers
[08:29] <ruisu> fglrx
[08:29] <ruisu> 
[08:29] <ruisu> 
[08:29] <ruisu> 
[08:30] <RebornDV> hello
[08:30] <parsek> does anyone know why my kubuntu loses the show (files) creation time setting when I close the folder, when I open it again its gone and its also grey in the list so I cant choose it again?
[08:30] <RebornDV> just did a fresh install of edgy and adept won't launch.. su returned with an error... any ideas?
[08:30] <Ahmuck> can someone reproduce this for me?  if you right click on firefox http bar to copy link you get two dialogs ?
[08:31] <Ahmuck> two copy dialogs
[08:31] <felipe__> I just moved from ubuntu dapper to kubuntu edgy and I'm now to kde, in adept manager I don't see the linux-686-smp ?
[08:31] <nub> DaSkreech: It's asking me for my video card's bus identifier after detecting my video card
[08:31] <felipe__> *new
[08:31] <ruisu> Ahmuckno, that never happened to me
[08:31] <DaSkreech> nub: and it's blank?
[08:31] <nub> no
[08:31] <Ahmuck> in edgy ?
[08:31] <nub> heh
[08:31] <nub> sorry
[08:31] <nub> i'll just press enter
[08:31] <DaSkreech> felipe__: try a reload and then try again
[08:32] <felipe__> is it kernel-image-2.3.27-2-686.smp?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> Does anyone have an edgy Desktop CD and  free machine to test with?
[08:32] <Commander-Crowe2> using adapt how do I install build essentionals
[08:32] <DaSkreech> felipe__: Looks right
[08:32] <jende_> DaSkreech: to test what?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> Commander-Crowe2: search for build-essentials
[08:32] <DaSkreech> Commander-Crowe2: search for build-essential
[08:33] <Commander-Crowe2> ok
[08:33] <DaSkreech> jende_: I'm doing a CD check and I get the same progress bar like I'm botting up
[08:33] <DaSkreech> But it's not moving :(
[08:33] <DaSkreech> So I have no idea if it's bad or not doing anything or that's normal
[08:33] <DaSkreech> jende_: ok never mind it just jumped to a blinking cusor
[08:33] <jende_> DaSkreech: you get a moving bar while nstalling and there is no progress?
[08:33] <DaSkreech>  I take it that's bad
[08:34] <DaSkreech> jende_: No no bar at all
[08:34] <jende_> brb
[08:34] <DaSkreech> well not true I get a bar but it doesn't do anything
[08:34] <DaSkreech> GUess I'll just use windows
[08:36] <nub> DaSkreech: I got to the desired default color depth, I chose the one it selected for me. It popped up with a warning "overwriting possibly customised configuration file; bacup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.2006102903320. it's waiting for me to input something again
[08:36] <wildchild> where can I turn it off this thing in kopete messenger: allways when some contact change it's status this appears in window :S
[08:36] <wildchild> it's annoying
[08:36] <DaSkreech> nub: By input something you mean you are at the prompt?
[08:36] <afm\colossus> settings -> configure notifications maybe?
[08:36] <Ace2016> hi all
[08:37] <nub> Yes
[08:37] <DaSkreech> wildchild: in the settings :)
[08:37] <Ace2016> my open office keeps crashing
[08:37] <amit> how to create local repository ??
[08:37] <nub> but the color depth selection is above this prompt
[08:37] <DaSkreech> nub: try startx again
[08:37] <Ace2016>  all i did was select an image
[08:37] <Ace2016>  is this a known bug?
[08:37] <wildchild> DaSkreech: a little bit more specific please :P
[08:38] <nub> it gave me the no screens found error again. fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining
[08:38] <slow-motion> re
[08:38] <fdoving> DaSkreech: tried F6 ? twice maybe?
[08:38] <Ace2016> well i guess i'm forced to use windows' open office for a while
[08:38] <Ace2016> bye all
[08:38] <Commander-Crowe2> http://pastebin.com/815454
[08:38] <Commander-Crowe2> there  you go
[08:38] <Commander-Crowe2> my source.list
[08:38] <nub> it also did this same thing when I tried to install on the graphical interface mode
[08:38] <DaSkreech> fdoving: I'm guessing the CD on the ride over here picked up a gold watch and retired
[08:39] <DaSkreech> nub: Would you happen to have two video cards
[08:39] <nub> I'm pretty sure I only have one. ATI Radeon X800 Pro
[08:39] <fdoving> DaSkreech: maybe you'll have to remove some options before booting the cd. quiet and splash, i guess.
[08:40] <parsek> does anyone know why my kubuntu loses the show (files) creation time setting when I close the folder, when I open it again its gone and its also grey in the list so I cant choose it again?
[08:40] <DaSkreech> fdoving: I did that and it stops reading the CD on the same command
[08:40] <fdoving> ah.
[08:40] <DaSkreech> I'm guessing the CD gave up the Ghost
[08:40] <DaSkreech> My FC6 DVD died as well
[08:40] <DaSkreech> L:-( bad weekend
[08:42] <jende_> !Icewm
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Icewm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <jende_> !JWM
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about JWM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <sorush20> I managed to fix my computer no thanks to you ...
[08:43] <nub> DaSkreech: Any other suggestions?
[08:43] <socketbind> erm howdy :D im in the middle of a kubuntu installation but i cancelled the installation of language packs and now it loops forever
[08:44] <socketbind> geez this is the fourth failed attempt :D
[08:45] <Commander-Crowe2> ok
[08:45] <DaSkreech> socketbind: Hang in there :)
[08:45] <Commander-Crowe2> how do I add build essentals through apt-get using the CD?
[08:45] <DaSkreech> Commander-Crowe2: Got your package
[08:45] <DaSkreech> !x
[08:45] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:45] <DaSkreech> nub: try that for a bit I'm going to the other side of the room
[08:46] <gigabytes> hello everybody
[08:46] <socketbind> fifth attempt there ya go :D brb :] ] 
[08:46] <georgeb> Hi, I have a problem with kopete, I can't receive files on yahoo; do you know how to solve it ? thanks.
[08:46] <gigabytes> I'm trying to install edgy on an apple powerbook 15"
[08:46] <gigabytes> model 5,8 (the last model before the intel ones)
[08:46] <gigabytes> but
[08:47] <gigabytes> I can't boot up the live cd
[08:47] <gigabytes> because the X server doesn't start and I get only a text-mode shell
[08:47] <feldegast> gigabytes: is it a ppc cd?
[08:47] <Commander-Crowe2> alright I got it
[08:47] <gigabytes> feldegast: yes... I get the shell...
[08:47] <gigabytes> the problem is the X server
[08:48] <gigabytes> the livecd boots up and launch the X server, but it doesn't start and I get a shell
[08:48] <gigabytes> what's the matter?
[08:48] <rOOb> can anyone help me add a entry to my /etc/fstab?........i cant figure it out
[08:49] <rOOb> its looks very diff then it did on dapper
[08:49] <georgeb> rOOb: what is the problem ?
[08:49] <afm\colossus> he's probably confused by the filesystem's UUIDs
[08:49] <darkpietcin> hey
[08:50] <rOOb> georgeb, i want to add my pendrive and ipod to my fstab...so i can a: simply type mount /media/ipod and b: i will have read write axx to it
[08:50] <rOOb> afm\colossus, yea thats part of iyt
[08:50] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: here you'll get our IceWM http://sourceforge.net/projects/icewm/
[08:51] <georgeb> rOOb: did you try it as on dapper ?
[08:51] <rOOb> georgeb, on dapper i had a few entries i made
[08:52] <rOOb> afm\colossus, how can i get the uuids>
[08:52] <rOOb> ?
[08:52] <georgeb> rOOb: you can try to add them as you did on dapper, it might work
[08:52] <stephan_> hi, i have a problem with $Display. I try to start firefox from root with "firefox --display=:0 -remote openurl\(http://www.stern.de\)" but i get a "Error: Failed to connect to X server". I allready set xhost + from the user with the display
[08:52] <rOOb> georgeb, i dont mess around with my filesystem
[08:53] <shadowhywind> hay all, i am getting a Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! message on startx any ideas?
[08:53] <rOOb> georgeb, if it "may" work or "could" work....im not gonna risk it untill i get someone who knows for a fact itll work
[08:53] <rOOb> not worth loosing data
[08:54] <reon> where would i enable my Plantronics headset ?
[08:54] <zblach> hey all. quick issue with laptops. soon as KDE starts running, it detects my laptop lid switch as closed. it is most assuredly not. how to correct?
[08:54] <georgeb> rOOb: ok. give me what you added for the ipod and I'll try it on my own :)
[08:54] <rOOb> georgeb, i havent added anything to this one
[08:54] <stephan_> with --display=0.0 and --display=0 i get a Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: 0(.0)
[08:54] <DaSkreech> Looking for a CD to burn it to
[08:54] <georgeb> rOOb: what you put in fstab for dapper
[08:55] <rOOb> georgeb, i want to.....on apper it wsa like /dev/sdb2 /media/ipod then some arguments here
[08:55] <DaSkreech> WHoops
[08:55] <rOOb> georgeb, i no longer have what i did on dapper
[08:55] <RawSewageLT> Kubuntu Edgy is great
[08:55] <rOOb> as this is a new intsall
[08:55] <RawSewageLT> fresh install
[08:56] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: got it?
[08:56] <rOOb> i just find it weird that no one knows to much about this new fstab format
[08:56] <SHRIKEE> Pentium M is that centrino?
[08:56] <socketbind> re :D
[08:57] <afm\colossus> SHRIKEE: Centrino is Pentium M
[08:57] <SHRIKEE> ok, thanks
[08:57] <afm\colossus> but not vice versa
[08:57] <shadowhywind> anyone have any suggestions for Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!, there is some nvidia file that i have to delete but i don't remember..
[08:57] <afm\colossus> ;)
[08:57] <SHRIKEE> ...
[08:57] <felipe__> I don't see in Adept the Linux 2.6.17 686 smp??? where is it?
[08:57] <afm\colossus> there are no such kernels any more
[08:58] <rOOb> does anyone know how to add entries to the fstab....using the new formate?
[08:58] <fdoving> rOOb: what do you want to know about this new fstab stuff?
[08:58] <SHRIKEE> but there is a 686 kernel?
[08:58] <felipe__> Yeah
[08:58] <rOOb> fdoving, how to add entries for my ipod and pendrive
[08:58] <rOOb> fdoving, it doesnt look like it did on dapper
[08:59] <georgeb> rOOb: is not new or weird, man mount: "It is possible to indicate a block special device using its volume label or UUID"
[08:59] <felipe__> SHRIKEE: actually I thinks the linux-image-686 its just a container, I don't see the linux 686
[09:00] <fdoving> rOOb: use 'sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda1' if /dev/sda1 is your ipod. to get the UUID. then just use 'UUID=uuidhere /mountpoint defaults,andotheroptions 0 0' in fstab.
[09:00] <SHRIKEE> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85917 im trying that
[09:00] <SHRIKEE> on a centrino laptop
[09:00] <SHRIKEE> is it still relevant?
[09:00] <rOOb> georgeb fdoving ahh k thanks...i tink im starting to understand it now
[09:01] <blackflag> where can I get the kernel-header for edgy kernel-header-2.6.17-10-386?
[09:01] <felipe__> ??? anywhay it say its been obsoleted by de generic linux image....whats going on with this generic kerenel? is it smp or is it plain 386?
[09:02] <fdoving> blackflag: package name is: linux-headers-2.6.17-10
[09:02] <reon> How do I scan for attached USB devices ?
[09:02] <jende_> fdoving: Howdy... ;-)
[09:02] <fdoving> hi jende_.
[09:02] <jende_> fdoving: you#re damn busy
[09:03] <bored> reon: you can use usbview (if you are using X)
[09:03] <bored> if you want to see if it's picked up correctly
[09:03] <reon> bored, what about cli ?
[09:03] <blackflag> fdoving: thanks!! I searched with kernel-header..
[09:03] <georgeb> reon: lsusb
[09:03] <DaSkreech> rOOb: man fstab
[09:04] <bored> don't really know. all my comps that use usb stuff are running xorg
[09:04] <haclappy> hello everybody! I hope some of you can help me with the following problem: I downloaded the "kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso" file, burned it and tried to install. The LiveCD boots fine, but the installation always hangs at 78%. At this point, one can hear the cdrom drive to speed up and slow down again and again, until it stops. The system is not dead at this point, but as soon as you click somewhere, it locks up completely
[09:04] <socketbind> you may have a defective cd :)
[09:04] <haclappy> PS: The checksum of the downloaded file is correct, and the cd integrity is verified. I burnt it 2 times, always same result. Had no problems with prior kubuntu versions.
[09:04] <socketbind> i had the same problem
[09:05] <reon> georgeb, thx
[09:05] <socketbind> first it was a faulty drive then a defective cd a total nightmare
[09:05] <bored> ive heard there are problems upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10. what should i look out for ?
[09:05] <haclappy> socketbind, that's bad. But I checked everything
[09:06] <haclappy> but in fact, the option of the kubuntu live cd to check the file integrity gives an error! it says that one checksum failed
[09:06] <bored> anything really bad or just small stuff ?
[09:06] <Commander-Crowe> jende_ yeah I got it but I need to install build-essentials
[09:06] <haclappy> but on the pc on which I burnt and downloaded the cd, everything passes
[09:06] <VanessaE> bored: for some people, major problems.  for others, my husband included, just a couple of minor bugs
[09:07] <socketbind> maybe a defective drive mine was working for 5 years in a row, now it
[09:07] <VanessaE> personally, I'm sticking to Dapper :)
[09:07] <socketbind> its reduced to a pile of junk
[09:07] <bored> you did an md5 check on the image yu downloaded ?
[09:07] <bored> you even
[09:07] <bored> VanessaE: kk. dont have anything else to do atm, so i figured i would do an update :)
[09:07] <{slacky}> hello
[09:07] <{slacky}> I installed Kubuntu 6.10, but when I try shutdown (power off) the pc by kdm the pc stay powered on... why? I tryed to see and I found kubuntu uses "/sbin/poweroff" to poweroff... I modified it by kcontrol but it's always the same I have to say "sudo halt" from konsole
[09:07] <georgeb> rOOb: my ipod gets automounted; I can't find who mounts it; anyway, this is how it looks: /dev/sdb2 on /media/ipod type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[09:07] <VanessaE> bored: better you should do a clean install
[09:07] <haclappy> bored: yes I did.
[09:07] <VanessaE> (after you back up your personal data of course).
[09:08] <bored> haclappy: i would try to burn it again then. I always burn two copies of my os disks because one of them always fails ^^
[09:08] <bored> VanessaE: more fun this way ^^
[09:08] <VanessaE> heh
[09:09] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: so, install them
[09:09] <bored> VanessaE: getting bored with computer stuff anyway so im trying to find something new and fresh to do with them
[09:09] <haclappy> bored: I burnt it already 2 times :( ... and I have only few cd's left ... and the cd check also passed. maybe I should burn it at a lower speed??
[09:09] <VanessaE> you want something to do?  go install gentoo on one of your throw-away boxes ;)
[09:09] <Commander-Crowe> jende_ I am
[09:09] <VanessaE> that'll keep you busy for a couple of weeks :)(
[09:09] <haclappy> I just don't want to waste more cds ... on the other side, I now got a pc without working os :S
[09:09] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: good on ya
[09:10] <socketbind> i would recommend to replace the drive :)
[09:10] <bored> haclappy: that may be a good idea. some of my older cdroms have problems reading cds burned at higher speeds. esp over a long period of time (when the disc gets hot)
[09:10] <bored> VanessaE: allready done that :) gentoo was fun but everything took so damned long to compile that i got bored with it :)
[09:11] <haclappy> socketbind: I hope it's not broken ... it just worked fine for over a hundred years now :)
[09:11] <socketbind> mine too and it was my trusty companion... but now it's a piece of inert junk:'((
[09:11] <DaSkreech> socketbind: hi
[09:11] <DaSkreech> socketbind: how's your install?
[09:11] <socketbind> howdy DaSkreech :] 
[09:12] <socketbind> well i cancelled it at the point when it wanted to download the language packs
[09:12] <socketbind> but the result was a bootable system
[09:12] <VanessaE> heh
[09:12] <socketbind> so it works
[09:12] <socketbind> when i cancelled the installation it just froze at that point
[09:12] <socketbind> well it seems to be okay to me
[09:13] <socketbind> in fact its lighting fast
[09:13] <socketbind> but i dunno if its flawed or not
[09:13] <VanessaE> my husband's box does seem to boot quicker than mine (both machines are identical), I'll give edgy that much!
[09:14] <socketbind> i hope it isnt flawed anyhow :)
[09:14] <bored> arent they using a new booting system ?
[09:14] <socketbind> looks fine for me in every aspect
[09:14] <bored> an alternative it init ?
[09:14] <socketbind> yup, its called upstart
[09:14] <bored> to init
[09:14] <bored> nice
[09:14] <VanessaE> bored: yeah, some sort of event-based parallel thing rather than the traditional series-of-scripts method
[09:14] <{slacky}> mmm it's a know bug : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/59134
[09:15] <VanessaE> the new system's a smart idea for sure
[09:15] <bored> very cool indeed
[09:15] <wildchild> for macromedia flash player: can I just download it and install it?
[09:15] <socketbind> well it was about time after 15 years :)))
[09:15] <wildchild> or is there a package for firefox
[09:15] <socketbind> flashplayer-nonfree afaik
[09:15] <Blacken> Urgh. I hate dash.
[09:16] <DaSkreech> socketbind: try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:16] <socketbind> seems okay :)
[09:17] <socketbind> well i hope so, after 4 failed attempts i'm happy :D
[09:18] <Blacken> Is there a way to get a list of all packages that I've installed that are *not* default packages?
[09:18] <Blacken> I have to reinstall and I don't want to have to go find all my packages by trial and error.
[09:19] <bored> you could do a dpkg -l i think it was
[09:19] <bored> but that will list all installed packages
[09:19] <georgeb> I recomend flash9 beta for linux; it seems to work ok, http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[09:19] <Blacken> Yeah...I know about that one.
[09:19] <bored> and then do a set command with the list as input to make it install them all again
[09:20] <Blacken> set command? Pardon, but what do you ean?
[09:20] <Blacken> mean*
[09:21] <bored> there is a set command to use with apt-get so that you can use the list you get from dpkg -l so that they will be marked for installation
[09:21] <afm\colossus> i recommend not using flash whatsoever, until gnash is finished
[09:21] <SHRIKEE> hmm
[09:21] <SHRIKEE> i just installed linux-686 and its obsolete?
[09:21] <SHRIKEE> replaced by linux-generic?
[09:21] <socketbind> works schweeeet :)))
[09:22] <bored> dpkg --set-selections
[09:22] <bored> that one
[09:22] <bored> nice for reinstalls when you want to keep your packages like you had them on the old install
[09:23] <sistemas> good afternoon to all
[09:23] <Blacken> bored: Thank you.
[09:23] <bored> nps
[09:24] <bored> Blacken: you may have to use dpkg --get-selections to get the list though
[09:24] <bored> havent used that command for a long time :)
[09:24] <bored> its all in the man page for dpgk
[09:24] <bored> dpkg even
[09:27] <aterphasma> anybody awake?
[09:27] <Tm_T> Never.
[09:28] <aterphasma> good
[09:28] <socketbind> i'm always in a trance
[09:28] <aterphasma> why is my battery icon not changing when i remove my power adapter?
[09:29] <aterphasma> it worked fine in beta3, and now it... erm... doesn't
[09:31] <aterphasma> no? *cry*
[09:32] <socketbind> so now there is no need for separate kernels? :D
[09:33] <socketbind> i'm awake i'm awake!
[09:33] <socketbind> just took a little nap
[09:33] <socketbind> btw i have no idea about your battery icon thingy sry
[09:34] <aterphasma> blah...
[09:34] <aterphasma> silly acpi...
[09:34] <socketbind> well according to linus
[09:34] <blackflag> after upgrading I can no longer use vmware server
[09:34] <socketbind> acpi is a serious brain damage
[09:34] <blackflag> can somone help?
[09:34] <socketbind> u must be missing the proper kernel modules for it
[09:34] <aterphasma> with a kubuntu generic kernel? please
[09:34] <socketbind> whoops forgot that
[09:35] <socketbind> i'm used to half thousand versions
[09:35] <aterphasma> i'm used to gentoo
[09:35] <alitis4> remind me the apt-get install xffs-samba ?
[09:35] <alitis4> how was it?
[09:35] <aterphasma> kubuntu is easy as pie compared to gentoo
[09:35] <alitis4> how was it?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> !vmware
[09:35] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[09:35] <socketbind> well i always wanted to install gentoo but i never had the time to read docs + wait for the install to finish
[09:35] <alitis4> !samba
[09:35] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:39] <shadowhywind> hay all i am having issues getting the resolution right on my external i was wondering if someone could help
[09:40] <sam_> hi all - i just installed kubunt and i really like it!
[09:40] <socketbind> same opinion here :)))
[09:40] <twosouls82> great to hear that :)
[09:40] <sam_> I am thinking of trying out ubuntu as well. is it possible to run knome + kde on the same core packages?
[09:40] <sam_> or do i have to install again?
[09:41] <socketbind> u just need to install ubuntu-desktop afaik
[09:41] <sam_> cool thanks
[09:41] <ccomp5950> What is the easiest way to upgrade to edgy from dapper?  Anyway to keep my current packages and settings intact?
[09:41] <socketbind> update-manager -c ?
[09:42] <VanessaE> back up your settings and personal data and do a fresh edgy install, upgrading can be troublesome.
[09:42] <ccomp5950> alright
[09:44] <socketbind> have fun bye :] 
[09:48] <amit> how to create local prepository in directory ??
[09:49] <ruisu> hi, im back, being able to see normally :)m but the ATI control gives me this info: Opengl: Vendor:mesa, DRI:inderect
[09:49] <VanessaE> amit: here's how I did it:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29200/
[09:50] <amit> thnanks , let me check it
[09:50] <VanessaE>  /data/Software is just a directory I created.
[09:51] <VanessaE> you have to run the script as root or sudo...or at least the `apt-get update` line needs root priv's anyway.
[09:51] <amit> I had follow alsmost same steps
[09:51] <amit> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42862
[09:51] <amit> this link I use
[09:52] <amit> now I follow this line in source.lst
[09:52] <VanessaE> sources.list
[09:52] <amit> deb file:///root repo/
[09:52] <amit> after atp-get update
[09:52] <amit> I got no error
[09:52] <VanessaE> yeah that's basically it
[09:53] <VanessaE> did you see it say "Ign:  Packages" near the top of the `apt-get update` output?
[09:53] <amit> but for #apt-get install d4x
[09:53] <sorush20> I keep crashing on regenerating font cache why?
[09:53] <amit> I got this error
[09:54] <amit> Err file: repo/ d4x-common 2.5.6-2
[09:54] <VanessaE> what error?
[09:54] <VanessaE> er
[09:54] <amit>   File not found
[09:54] <amit> Err file: repo/ d4x 2.5.6-2
[09:54] <amit>   File not found
[09:54] <amit> Failed to fetch file:///root/./d4x-common_2.5.6-2_all.deb  File not found
[09:54] <saxton> Is there a way of stopping X from blanking my monitors? (it does it after only a couple of minutes of inactivitiy)
[09:54] <amit> Failed to fetch file:///root/./d4x_2.5.6-2_i386.deb  File not found
[09:54] <amit> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[09:54] <VanessaE> whoa, don't paste in here
[09:54] <esaym> anyone have any hints on this topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1646404#post1646404
[09:54] <VanessaE> use pastebin
[09:54] <saxton> I have tried adjusting DPMS values via xset, but they don't seem to have any effect
[09:54] <VanessaE> ok, however, notice you used ///root
[09:54] <epsilom> hi, questions: the generic kernel of Edgy included 386, 686 and smp?
[09:55] <VanessaE> you need to use the *actual* root of your repos.
[09:55] <saxton> (and I'm also not sure that it's DPMS doing it)
[09:55] <VanessaE> my root is /data/Software/Dapper, hence why I used ///data/Software/Dapper
[09:55] <amit> no package ignore
[09:55] <saxton> but it's not a screensaver, and X shouldn't be blanking the display so quickly anywaY?
[09:55] <VanessaE> yours needs to be similar..  I doubt your repos root is in /root :)
[09:56] <epsilom> hi, questions: the generic kernel of Edgy included 386, 686 and smp?
[09:56] <amit> yes
[09:56] <amit> path is like "/root/repo"
[09:56] <VanessaE> ok, then you need to put ///root/repo in the sources.list
[09:56] <VanessaE> at least, if you followed the procedure I used.
[09:56] <amit> who to use pastebin
[09:57] <felipe__> why nvidia-glx has as prerequisite linux-image-2.6.17-10-386....? I dont want the 386 kernel.....
[09:57] <VanessaE> amit: we all use one of the many pastebins to present multiple lines of text...  helps avoid flooding the channel
[09:57] <ruisu> noone knows how to change mesa to ati drivers?
[09:58] <sorush20> I have a apt-get install with a big list of packages..
[09:58] <Pensacola> is there something like the 386 linux image for edgy, because the generic kernel is not very stable
[09:58] <amit> thanks
[09:58] <VanessaE> amit: also, you have to repeat the complete `dpkg-scanpackages` command any time you add packages to your repos.
[09:58] <amit> but again how do I get with repo ??
[09:58] <VanessaE> (for me, I just re-run the script)
[09:59] <sorush20> as soon as apt-get isn't able to install one package in the list it will stop how can I get it to carry on and check and install other packages in the list and report to me what it has not been able to install at the end?
[09:59] <VanessaE> sorush: try the --fix-missing switch
[09:59] <VanessaE> apt-get --fix-missing install xxxxxx
[10:00] <amit> yes I have follow it
[10:00] <sorush20> VanessaE: dosent work
[10:00] <VanessaE> leave off the package name (xxxxx) and it should automatically pick up where it left off.
[10:00] <VanessaE> oh boy...
[10:00] <amit> ok let me try .
[10:01] <sorush20> this is what happens.
[10:02] <VanessaE> sorush: have you tried explicitly UNinstalling the defective package and then doing the upgrade?
[10:02] <VanessaE> or is it a dependency of something else?
[10:03] <Zamboulie> i installed bf2142
[10:03] <Zamboulie> in linux
[10:03] <amit> VanessaE: ok your line in source.lst works for me like -> "deb file:///root/repo/  ./"
[10:04] <Zamboulie> and theres something that is supposed to say register now or register later, but i cant see anything in the box
[10:04] <Zamboulie> is there any way to bypass it
[10:04] <amit> so that ./ is magic
[10:04] <VanessaE> amit:  good deal.  does that fix the problem you had then?
[10:04] <amit> yes . thanks .
[10:04] <VanessaE> your welcome
[10:05] <VanessaE> curious, I never did get that script/repos thing working on my husband's edgy box..  I should get back to that sometime.
[10:05] <VanessaE> (works great on my dapper box though)
[10:06] <amit> thanks a lot .
[10:06] <amit> This is first time I got help from IRC
[10:06] <loxs> Hello does anyone know a good binary news reader for linux? currently using klibido
[10:06] <VanessaE> I use knode, not sure how it handles binaries though
[10:07] <VanessaE> amit: on IRC it can be a crapshoot, people aren't always available to help despite there being lots of names in the list...it's just an IRC thing :)
[10:09] <amit> VanessaE: yes , I am trying to understand it .
[10:09] <ulaas> the module Monitor & Display could not be loaded
[10:09] <amit> VanessaE: This really takes time to adgest with it .
[10:09] <ulaas> any ideas?
[10:10] <VanessaE> ulaas: you mean in the kde control center?
[10:10] <VanessaE> (or the 'system settings' program)
[10:10] <ulaas> VanessaE: yepp
[10:10] <VanessaE> I have the same problem; it's been broken for months on my dapper box..  husband's edgy box too.
[10:10] <joe_> what is apt-get?
[10:10] <VanessaE> joe: apt-get is the standard program used to manage your installed software
[10:11] <rolando> hi
[10:11] <ulaas> VanessaE: good to hear that it is a global fact :)
[10:11] <bored> we have a bot we can do !apt-get to here ?
[10:11] <VanessaE> it's equivalent (but not as pretty) as the add/remove programs icon in the windows control panel.
[10:11] <bored> or any other app
[10:11] <DjDarkman> hy ,this beryl recomended nvidia driver messed up my whole display ,how can I go back to the non beta driver?
[10:11] <VanessaE> bored: the bot only knows certain keywords, didn't think to check apt :)
[10:11] <rolando> does easyubuntu work for edgy???
[10:11] <bored> kk :)
[10:11] <rolando> because the official site doesnt work
[10:12] <ulaas> VanessaE: plus i am also happy to hear an ubuntu couple ;)
[10:12] <joe_> can i use apt-get to install flash 9
[10:12] <loxs> if you had the repo
[10:12] <loxs> sudo apt-get install flash
[10:12] <Trollinator> DjDarkman: run the installer again with --help
[10:12] <TheGateKeeper> DjDarkman: I think if set the driver back to nv in xorg.conf that will do the trick, did you not back up xorg.conf?
[10:12] <Trollinator> there is some parameter to remove it again
[10:13] <joe_> what is "the repo"
[10:13] <Trollinator> and of course do what TheGateKeepersaid
[10:13] <loxs> does anyone know of an irc client which can handle ssl connections?
[10:13] <DjDarkman> the driver is the problem not the configuration
[10:13] <Trollinator> joe_: the repository
[10:13] <VanessaE> joe: a "repo" or "repos" is a repository - a website or ftp site that houses debian/ubuntu packages.
[10:13] <Trollinator> the place where all the packages installable via apt are located
[10:14] <joe_> what if i already have the flash 9 package on my desktop how do I install it?
[10:14] <VanessaE> is it a .deb file?
[10:14] <DjDarkman> this poor excuse of a beta nvidia driver is running my monitor at a low frequency and it hurts my eyes ,I would realy apreciate a fast solution on removeing it and getting back to the original
[10:14] <loxs> or an rpm?
[10:15] <joe_> no, it is libflashplayer.so
[10:15] <VanessaE> Dj: just download the 'regular' non-beta driver and install it (with X not running)
[10:15] <VanessaE> it'll overwrite the beta.
[10:15] <VanessaE> joe: copy it to ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugins (I think)
[10:15] <VanessaE> er, sorry
[10:15] <VanessaE> ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:15] <VanessaE> (forgot they changed it)
[10:15] <james22> is there a good text sysadmin tool for ubuntu server (like Suse has yast2 etc)
[10:16] <VanessaE> james: to do what, exactly?
[10:16] <joe_> how do I copy it, i'm noob only been on linux 3 days
[10:16] <VanessaE> joe:  use konqueror (file manager)
[10:16] <Trollinator> joe_: STFW
[10:16] <james22> Vanessa: to manage the box
[10:17] <VanessaE> just drag 'n drop it to the right folder, then from a command line,  chmod 755 ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[10:17] <VanessaE> and restart firefox, should work then.
[10:17] <VanessaE> james: "manage the box" is too broad of a term...you mean like managing what's installed on it?
[10:17] <VanessaE> or do you mean like dealing with config files?
[10:18] <james22> config files -- eg network settings, samba settings etc
[10:18] <yo> salut
[10:18] <gigabytes> hello
[10:18] <VanessaE> james: there really isn't a single tool to do that
[10:18] <gigabytes> I've installed kubuntu edgy
[10:18] <gigabytes> but I can't install the italian localization
[10:19] <gigabytes> I set it during the installation
[10:19] <VanessaE> normally we use stuff like swat for samba, a text editor to maintain everything else, the cups web interface for printers (well, I guess they changed that)...etc
[10:19] <DaSkreech> !it
[10:19] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:19] <gigabytes> and it is set as the default locale
[10:19] <sorush20> asd
[10:19] <__osh__> james22: Sorely lacking in Kubuntu. Mandriva and Suse are way ahead in that area.
[10:19] <VanessaE> Trollinator, how long have you been around IRC?
[10:19] <sorush20> are there any other colouring themes I can download for konversaion?
[10:20] <VanessaE> james: that said, KDE is starting to make some headway in that regard - there are some tools in it for managing the basics
[10:20] <VanessaE> (users, printers, etc)
[10:20] <james22> Osh: i c ... looks like the only thing it is really missing.... webmin is not bad
[10:20] <DaSkreech> VanessaE: Difference of course being that Kubuntu is very much an upstream Distro :)
[10:20] <VanessaE> true
[10:21] <joe_> vanessae, when I type /.mozilla/firefox/plugins into konqueror it says The file or folder file:///.mozilla/firefox/plugins does not exist.
[10:21] <VanessaE> joe: don't use a leading slash
[10:21] <VanessaE> rather
[10:21] <ulaas> Xine keeps crashing, anyone else experiencing..
[10:21] <VanessaE> use tilde-shash-dot-mozilla.....
[10:21] <VanessaE> ~/.mozilla...
[10:22] <sorush20> kde is better I think than gnome..
[10:22] <VanessaE> the tilde gets interpreted by the system as "my home directory/"
[10:22] <johey> Upgrading from dapper to edgy... Pray for me!
[10:23] <shadowhywind> hehe good luck
[10:23] <TheGateKeeper> johey: lol
[10:23] <joe_> how do you type a tilde from the keyboard
[10:23] <johey> :D
[10:23] <VanessaE> shift-backtick
[10:23] <VanessaE> look next to the '1' key.
[10:23] <wildchild> !automatix
[10:23] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[10:23] <wildchild> link
[10:23] <wildchild> need link
[10:23] <wildchild> how to install automatix
[10:23] <VanessaE> johey: oy..have fun! :)
[10:24] <afm\colossus> fucking google it, dude
[10:24] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: what are you doing????
[10:24] <DaSkreech> wildchild: use easyubuntu
[10:24] <joe_> thanks i see it ~~~~
[10:24] <DaSkreech> !language
[10:24] <VanessaE> ARGH
[10:24] <shadowhywind> my interent all of a sudden got slow, when i came back from a restart, any ideas / tips
[10:24] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:24] <sorush20> hi
[10:24] <DaSkreech> !coc > afm\colossus
[10:24] <VanessaE> Ok ...  afm and troll both of you....don't f'ing tell people google it!
[10:24] <DaSkreech> !coc > VanessaE
[10:24] <sorush20> this is what I want to do and it keeps telling me that the names are missing or etc.. http://pastebin.co.uk/4826
[10:25] <wildchild> TheGateKeeper: I was trying to install flashplugin-nonfree while accoured problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29185/
[10:25] <DaSkreech> !easyubuntu > wildchild
[10:25] <johey> Is there any KDE/QT version of gvim?
[10:25] <s> Hello. I'm having problems with flash in Firefox 2.0 using Kubuntu
[10:25] <s> Everytime i go to a flash enabled page, firefox quits
[10:26] <joe_> still not working "The file or folder ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugins does not exist" will I ever figure linux out
[10:26] <shadowhywind> i had that problem too s
[10:26] <s> oh
[10:26] <shadowhywind> install beta 9 of flash
[10:26] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: dapper or edge?
[10:26] <VanessaE> joe: sorry that was my fault - they moved that folder.  it's ~/.mozilla/plugins now
[10:26] <s> i already installed flash 9
[10:26] <VanessaE> (it used to be what you wrote...old habit)
[10:26] <wildchild> TheGateKeeper: apt-get install package :S
[10:27] <shadowhywind> what i did, i removed both flash plugins, that are in the plugin folder, and just copied the one flash file
[10:27] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: which version of (k)ubuntu?
[10:27] <wildchild> 6.10
[10:27] <TheGateKeeper> hmmmm
[10:27] <wildchild> kubuntu
[10:28] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: can you remove the package?
[10:28] <wildchild> don't know
[10:29] <wildchild> ebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[10:29] <wildchild> (Reading database ... 80770 files and directories currently installed.)
[10:29] <wildchild> Removing flashplugin-nonfree ...
[10:29] <s> shadowhywind: it doesn't work
[10:29] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: well that is where I would start, see if you have broken packages, if you have try & fix them
[10:29] <johey> Omg! When dist-upgrading from dapper to edgy, when post upgrading, I am provided with a Debconf window telling me to use a nice value between -20 and 19. What is this about? When clicking cancel, apt-get is continuing upgrading, but then again I get a new Debconf window.
[10:29] <wildchild> TheGateKeeper: sudo apt-get -f package?
[10:30] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: yep you got it
[10:30] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: upgrade or fresh install??
[10:30] <shadowhywind> you messed with the plugins in /home/<user>/.mozilla ?
[10:30] <s> yep
[10:30] <wildchild> E: Invalid operation flashplugin-nonfree; E: Invalid operation flashplugin-nonfree
[10:30] <shadowhywind> disable all plugins too
[10:30] <s> oh ok
[10:31] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-jre
[10:31] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: you got a broken java pacakage ??
[10:32] <s> shadowhywind: how do i disable them?
[10:32] <wildchild> yes
[10:32] <s> Can't find where in Firefox
[10:32] <wildchild> TheGateKeeper: yes
[10:32] <wildchild> :S
[10:32] <wildchild> can'r remove it
[10:32] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: & it's bitching about flash?
[10:32] <yeti> kubuntu edgy treats all files&dirs not owned by me as "hidden" which is extraordinarily annoying when browsing with konqueror
[10:33] <yeti> how do i revert that?
[10:33] <shadowhywind> you should just be able to click on the extension and hit disable
[10:33] <johey> Oh no. The upgrade failed. Seems like the Debconf script is broken.
[10:33] <johey> I get alot of messages like "Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN2> line 25."
[10:34] <wildchild> [22:32]  <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: & it's bitching about flash? YES
[10:34] <johey> And "DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout' during global destruction."
[10:34] <VanessaE> ouch
[10:35] <morfic> where in kubuntu can i specify an arbitrary script to be run on bootup?
[10:35] <johey> And "perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "sv_SE:sv:en_GB:en", LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "sv_SE.UTF-8" are supported and installed on your system.perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C")."
[10:35] <shadowhywind> yeti , I am still looking for that option my self
[10:36] <morfic> yeti: not sure, add yourself to a group that can access them?
[10:36] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: try: dpkg --pending --purge
[10:36] <yeti> shadowhywind, tell me if you know how to do it...
[10:36] <shadowhywind> will do
[10:36] <yamal> yeti: modify or move /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/hidden-root to disable that most annoying behaviour
[10:36] <yeti> morfic, nah, i have read permissions on all of them
[10:36] <yeti> yamal, oh okay
[10:36] <sorush20> is there any way that I can find out what packages are install on my computer so that next time I can find out what changes I can make
[10:36] <yeti> yamal, that behaviour is so windows.. "don't show it to the user so that he won't break it"
[10:36] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: you got to fix the broken pacakages before you can move forward installing (including using automatrix)
[10:37] <yeti> yamal, thanks very much though
[10:37] <yamal> yeti: my exact words :)
[10:37] <VanessaE> sorush: if you haven't messed with it yet, you could:  ls /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:37] <morfic> yamal: thanks, nice feature, oh nice feature, need to go link sh to bash so dash won't surprise me down the road
[10:37] <yamal> yw
[10:37] <grasshopper> how do i get filemanager in sudo?
[10:38] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: did you do an upgrade or a fresh install??
[10:38] <VanessaE> apt-cache search installed
[10:38] <VanessaE>  seems to also work
[10:38] <VanessaE> (shows 504 packages on my box...but that's probably wrong)
[10:38] <livingdaylight> how do i get filemanager in administrative mode?
[10:38] <yeti> livingdaylight, run command -> "kdesu konqueror"
[10:39] <livingdaylight> yeti: is it possible to have a su konqueror in Applications that opens after i've given password?
[10:40] <yeti> yamal, do you, by chance, happen to know how to globally set konqueror options? i tell him to show the detailed list instead of the annoying big symbols, and when i open it again or from somewhere else (same user!) it's those symbols again
[10:40] <yeti> livingdaylight, i don't understand what you want to do
[10:40] <yeti> oh, you mean in the applications menu?
[10:41] <yamal> yeti: suspecting a bug there, seeing that here to :(
[10:41] <yeti> sure, just add it to the menu, make a new link there and point it to "kdesu konqueror"
[10:41] <yeti> yamal, bummer :(
[10:41] <yamal> it's among the other dozen bugs I have yet to report
[10:42] <yacoob> hm
[10:43] <yacoob> this konq miss two things
[10:43] <yacoob> delicious plugin
[10:43] <yacoob> and filterset.g updater
[10:43] <joe_> vannessae,  thankyou I've been trying to install that flash9 for 3 days and you made it work. I can watch video on metacafe now
[10:43] <yacoob> anyone can point me to something like these?
[10:43] <livingdaylight> yeti: i'd like to have to launch it from command line. If there wasa sudo version in applications that opens after the password has been given
[10:43] <livingdaylight> !paste
[10:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:44] <yeti> livingdaylight, i still do not really get what you want to do, but to me it sounds like 2:41:06 < yeti> sure, just add it to the menu, make a new link there and point it to "kdesu konqueror" <-- should do the trick
[10:45] <GK_Hakansson> hur bytar man tangentbordslayouten  till dvorak?
[10:45] <VanessaE> !de
[10:45] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:45] <yeti> if you need it from caommand line a.k.a. bash, put an: alias konqi-su="kdesu konqueror" into the bash conf files
[10:45] <yeti> VanessaE, that's not german ;)
[10:45] <VanessaE> oops :)
[10:45] <VanessaE> looked like it
[10:45] <livingdaylight> can someone look at my menu.lst which seems to be in a mess http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29212/
[10:47] <MaterMaravillae> hi guys, what program can i use to record a demo of my desktop?
[10:47] <shadowhywind> livingdaylight what is your problem?
[10:47] <livingdaylight> i've got two hardrives with alot of os's i've installed over time. When i boot up i get a host of  choices many of them dou7bled up
[10:47] <__osh__> MaterMaravillae: ksnapshot?
[10:48] <shadowhywind> the reason why they look like it is doubled up, is the kernel was updated,
[10:48] <MaterMaravillae> __osh__ does it record videos?
[10:48] <shadowhywind> so livingdaylight, if you don't need the others, just remove the ones you don't need
[10:48] <__osh__> MaterMaravillae: No, just snapshots. I assume you could create a video from a lot of snapshots though. ;-)
[10:49] <MaterMaravillae> bufffffff
[10:49] <MaterMaravillae> hahah
[10:49] <joe_> how do I get to recognize my hp printer 880c that is plugged into my usb.  not sure the os even see the usb
[10:49] <yeti> joe_, check dmesg when plugging/unplugging the printer
[10:49] <VanessaE> joe: in a terminal, dmesg   -- do you see anything relating to USB in there?
[10:49] <livingdaylight> shadowhywind: i don't know which are which. I have a few Ubuntu ones doubled up and can't distinguish them http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29212/
[10:49] <VanessaE> (maybe dmesg | less  so you can scroll with the cursor keys)
[10:50] <shadowhywind> well basically your just going to have to start one by one and go through them all from grub
[10:50] <shadowhywind> right down the numbers, so you know
[10:50] <livingdaylight> shadowhywind: you can see i have three same entries for sda1, What do i do with those?
[10:51] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: you have quite a few kernels there, for each one a recovery mode & on 2 different drives, I have noticed that (k)ubuntu seems to do that
[10:51] <shadowhywind> you could basically just comment them out, leaving the greatest number
[10:51] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: where is your os now?
[10:51] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: exactly, its a mess. When i boot up, i'm like ?????
[10:52] <joe_> dme
[10:52] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: i'm in kubuntu [sdb1] 
[10:52] <VanessaE> joe, did you get anywhere with that flash plugin issue from earlier?
[10:52] <kkathman> I have an application that requires libm.so.6 and libc.so.6, so what library do I need to install?
[10:53] <VanessaE> kkathman: the latter is from glibc6
[10:53] <VanessaE> the former, not sure
[10:53] <joe_> yeti and vanessa, all I get w dmesg is a bunch of [17242675.200000]  APIC error on CPU0: 01(01)
[10:53] <kkathman> maybe that will take care of both?
[10:53] <joe_> and [17242679.172000]  spurious APIC interrupt on CPU#0, should never happen.
[10:54] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: well you could copy menu.lst as a backup then comment out / remove the entries that you will no longer use, but BE CAREFULL
[10:54] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: :)
[10:54] <softmaster> is there any player supports subtitles with rmvb files on kubuntu?
[10:54] <VanessaE> (glibc specifically is the "libc6" package)
[10:54] <VanessaE> (and libc6-dev)
[10:54] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: make sure you MAKE A BACKUP!!
[10:54] <kkathman> hmm it says that libc6 is at its current version :(
[10:55] <yacoob> hm
[10:55] <VanessaE> hm, ok
[10:55] <yacoob> how come dirs with french letters are showing up as squares in konqueror?
[10:55] <VanessaE> kkathman, when you do an  `ldconfig -v |grep libc` what do you see? (pastebin plz)
[10:56] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: if you screw up you may have to use a live cd to get back in & make corrections
[10:56] <softmaster> is there any player supports subtitles with rmvb files on kubuntu? please
[10:57] <kkathman> ooooooooo
[10:57] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: what has got me focused on this is that i've tried to reinstall kubuntu Edgy on one of the partitions but consistently get error during ped-disc_ducplicate
[10:57] <kkathman> icck
[10:57] <VanessaE> ..actually that won't tell me what I want...maybe just list /lib/libc*
[10:57] <kkathman> one sec I'll paste
[10:57] <VanessaE> er, ls -l /lib/libc*
[10:57] <joe_> How does fedora core 6 compare to kubuntu 6.10?
[10:57] <livingdaylight> Anyone know what a ped_disc is?
[10:57] <livingdaylight> I've googled for ped_disc_duplicate but get nothing back
[10:58] <softmaster> somebody answer me please
[10:58] <yeti> joe_, in my opinion, kubuntu is much more comfortable because of its package management
[10:58] <kkathman> VanessaE:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29219/
[10:58] <Zerb_Riss> does anyone know how to make KDE let me turn up the resolution?
[10:58] <yeti> my opinion is that yum/rpm is not anywhere near as goot as apt.
[10:58] <sorush20> I'm having amarok problems http://pastebin.co.uk/4827
[10:59] <sorush20> crash on selecting xine engine
[10:59] <VanessaE> kkathman, ok..like 9 shows it's there...
[10:59] <kkathman> yah so I wonder why Im getting that message
[10:59] <kkathman> hmm
[10:59] <kkathman> this application was running fine until I did the dist-upgrade to edgy
[10:59] <VanessaE> well what exactly is the message you get from the app?
[11:00] <livingdaylight> joe_: the similarity between Fedora 6 and Kubuntu 6.10 is the 6, hehe
[11:00] <kkathman> VanessaE:   nawk: error while loading shared libraries: libm.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:00] <kkathman> there are several like that
[11:00] <livingdaylight> So, noone ever come across a ped_disc_duplicated error?
[11:00] <kkathman> libm and libstc
[11:00] <softmaster>  is there any player supports subtitles with rmvb files on kubuntu? please
[11:01] <kkathman> sorry libc
[11:01] <livingdaylight> ping joe_
[11:01] <kkathman> librt
[11:01] <kkathman> kinda odd
[11:01] <livingdaylight> joe_: does Fedora rock your world?
[11:01] <kkathman> I might re install that app and see what happens
[11:01] <t3hwiz0rd-SR2> word: phoenix?! phoenix! I LOVE PHOENIX!
[11:01] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: http://www.gnome.org/~chrisime/random/stuff/gnuparted/ped_disk.cc <-- may be something to do with this
[11:02] <VanessaE> my box seems to have libm...  checking.
[11:02] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: thx, i'll have a look at that now
[11:04] <t3hwiz0rd> !ati
[11:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:04] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: lol, i don't know what to do with that? doesn't tell me what it is. Its true that it happened while i was inteh partition phase of installation.
[11:04] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: but what to do? :s
[11:05] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: that is c++ code lol
[11:05] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: geez...hehe
[11:05] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: well it's looks like a wrapper class, I am not really sure
[11:05] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: the duplicate bit got me to thinking aobut duplicate entried in grub/menu.lst
[11:06] <VanessaE> I'm at a loss, kkathman...
[11:06] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: either way i'm not able to install another os, not with manual partition. Haven't tried letting kubuntu automatically allocate sapce
[11:06] <VanessaE> can't even figure out what package provided that file...however...  Do you by chance run the 64 bit version?
[11:07] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: you might be better reporting it as a bug or asking one of the devs what's going on
[11:07] <VanessaE> only refs I'm seeing here that make sense seem to point to that.
[11:07] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper:i been asking here all day. How or where do i address devs with this issue?
[11:08] <VanessaE> oh here we go...your guess was right, it's provided by the libc6 package.
[11:09] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: ask to talk to a dev, have you tried to use something like gparted to see if your partition & partition tables are all in good order?
[11:09] <kkathman> ggrrrr
[11:09] <kkathman> I got no idea.. reinstalled and still no joy :(
[11:09] <VanessaE> kkathman, are you running 64 bit?
[11:09] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: i tried to use qparted but i had the error come up again
[11:09] <kkathman> VanessaE:  no not at all
[11:09] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: gparted is what the installer uses anyway
[11:09] <VanessaE> oh...hm
[11:11] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: well yes it uses gparted, if the partition software is having trouble, then that sounds like may be your partition tables are knackered
[11:11] <VanessaE> kkathman, wait, might have something here.
[11:12] <kkathman> was workin ok I thought in Dapper, and currently works fine in SuSe
[11:12] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: looks like there is confusion with sda1 & sdb1
[11:12] <VanessaE> by chance was the program you're installing jalbum?
[11:13] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: yes, its something like that i intuited. Hence while no one could help me with the actual error i looked at the menu.lst. I was shocked at the mess of it
[11:13] <kkathman> VanessaE:  nope.. Zend
[11:13] <VanessaE> ok
[11:13] <kkathman> Zend Studio
[11:13] <kkathman> but I get those same errors after reinstalling
[11:13] <kkathman> very odd
[11:13] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: actually this has all started since i installed Ubuntu Edgy on sda1 -  i noticed the doubling effect on  my boot up menu list
[11:13] <CVirus> VanessaE: hey .. how are you doing ?
[11:13] <yacoob> er...localeconf fails here :(
[11:14] <VanessaE> hey CV
[11:14] <VanessaE> going good
[11:14] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: that is only a symptom, the underlying problem needs to be sorted
[11:14] <VanessaE> ack, just in time for me to head off to pick up my husband
[11:14] <CVirus> VanessaE: :-)
[11:14] <VanessaE> CV, kkathman hang here, I'll be back in ~30 mins.
[11:14] <CVirus> VanessaE: take your full time
[11:15] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: I am not familiar with sata drive (i still use ide) but I guess you need to somehow repair the partition tables
[11:19] <loxs> netsplit i think
[11:19] <hades> i have ubuntu 6.06, and rt2500 wireless card, and im trying to set up my computer as a server, that is, so that my friends computer (he has a mac) can use me to connect to the internet. can anyone help?
[11:19] <hades> (please :))
[11:21] <hades> can someone help me with the wifi ?
[11:21] <hades> :)
[11:21] <hades> please ...
[11:21] <hades> i think thath my system cant see the proper driver ...
[11:21] <hades> ?
[11:21] <scion> hello
[11:21] <wildchild> is there a way to fix more than just one package?
[11:22] <CVirus> hades: well .. your card is sure to work ?
[11:23] <hades> CVirus: well, it works on windows xp
[11:23] <scion> anyone know how to upgrade mobile phone firmware in linux?
[11:23] <hades> CVirus: but its a little unstable, you know
[11:23] <hades> ?
[11:23] <scion> comes as an .exe only :(
[11:23] <CVirus> hades: does it work with GNU/Linux ?
[11:23] <hades> CVirus: and since i have only xp home, i cant use my comuter as the server..
[11:23] <hades> CVirus: no
[11:24] <CVirus> hades: how did you test it ?
[11:24] <hades> CVirus: if i use wlassassistant i cant see any network which i am suposed to
[11:25] <lupine_85> scion: if you're brave, maybe wine
[11:25] <CVirus> hades: is it an external or internal card ?
[11:25] <lupine_85> personally I'd do it in vmware
[11:25] <hades> CVirus: internal, pci if i do ifconfig i can see the interface ra0
[11:25] <redtricycle> What's a bash command to edit variables?  Does sed only work with scripts? "sed 's/.zip//' $string>$newstring" won't work?
[11:25] <hades> CVirus: i have ra2500 pci card ( wifi )
[11:25] <CVirus> !wifi
[11:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:26] <CVirus> hades: ^
[11:26] <hades> CVirus: propably i need to add the drivers to the kernel?
[11:26] <scion> lupine_85: that don't sound too good
[11:26] <CVirus> hades: just find the proper document https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:26] <lupine_85> if anything goes wrong, your phone becomes useless
[11:27] <scion> the phone connects better to this linux box then windoze machines!
[11:27] <DFh> hey- i have a noob question. apt-cache/-get dont know any "xawtv" package ("E: Couldn't find package xawtv"). am i stupid?
[11:27] <lupine_85> you've no idea what freaky aspects of the hardware the firmware updater will have
[11:27] <lupine_85> !xawtv
[11:27] <ubotu> xawtv: X11 TV application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 227 kB, installed size 656 kB
[11:27] <lupine_85> enable universe
[11:27] <hades> CVirus: thanks, just checking it out now..
[11:27] <DFh> lupine_85: ah. thx.
[11:27] <hades> CVirus: ill let you know how i get on ;)
[11:28] <CVirus> hades: sure
[11:31] <gsuveg> re
[11:32] <gsuveg> Riddell: are you online ?
[11:35] <caseyomah> !iso
[11:35] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[11:36] <felixjet> anyone know how to emulate windows small fonts on wine?
[11:37] <dragonflyseven> How do I make a cursor scheme larger. I have a 160081200 monitor, and it is hard to see the cursor sometimes cause it is so small.
[11:38] <felixjet> lol dragonflyseven xD
[11:39] <teledyn> dragonflyseven: there's a 'big-cursor' package.  apt-cache search cursor
[11:40] <dragonflyseven> copy that command?
[11:40] <felixjet> sudo apt-cache search cursor
[11:40] <felixjet> type that
[11:40] <teledyn> man apt-cache
[11:40] <felixjet> when i try to put my screen to 1600x1200
[11:40] <felixjet> it dont change
[11:41] <felixjet> it just expand
[11:41] <dragonflyseven> Ok... doing it. It just lists a bunch of packages.
[11:41] <felixjet> off to monitor
[11:41] <teledyn> !enter
[11:41] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[11:41] <felixjet> and i need to move screen moving cursor to the corners :S
[11:41] <dragonflyseven> Is there a slider somewhere. I think there is in GNOME.
[11:41] <fdoving> dragonflyseven: you can try this too: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/04/msg00202.html
[11:42] <felixjet> sorry teledyn u_U
[11:42] <dragonflyseven> Ok, checking that out.
[11:44] <caseyomah> I can't get an ISO mount to work...
[11:44] <malick> hi
[11:45] <pitt0071> hi
[11:45] <malick> what's your name
[11:45] <teledyn> mount -o loop
[11:45] <pitt0071> anyone with inspiron 9300?
[11:45] <caseyomah> I did, it pulled up --help
[11:45] <teledyn> man mount
[11:46] <Xal2> What is that program that displays PC statistics in linux? It is a web page that will show system specs, cpu usage, etc
[11:47] <pitt0071> Xal2, not web page... but maybe you talking about super karramba?
[11:47] <unix_infidel> Xal2: gkrellm?
[11:47] <unix_infidel> conky, any multitude of things.
[11:47] <nimroad> need help , to run emule or compatible program
[11:47] <teledyn> Xal2: maybe something like phpsysinfo
[11:47] <Xal2> hmm, not those
[11:47] <Xal2> teledyn,  yep
[11:47] <unix_infidel> Xal2: it runs in firefox as a webpage?
[11:47] <Xal2> I think that's it.
[11:47] <unix_infidel> ahh.
[11:48] <teledyn> it doesn't show cpu usage though
[11:48] <Xal2> I couldn't remember the name
[11:48] <teledyn> something based on rrdtool like cacti will
[11:48] <Xal2> Yeah, that's what I was looking for though. Thanks :D
[11:48] <nimroad> help me
[11:49] <veronika> there's a nasty regression in kubuntu
[11:49] <veronika> edgy
[11:49] <Xal2> What do you mean?
[11:50] <veronika> the battery module does not work any more
[11:50] <Xal2> I've only updated to edgy on my desktop.
[11:50] <nimroad> run a compatible program emule to LINUX
[11:50] <Xal2> That was so my IDE CD-ROM drive would work.
[11:51] <Trollinator> nimroad: STFW
[11:52] <nimroad> this is the compatible program_
[11:53] <Trollinator> so... what?
[11:53] <Trollinator> there are at least 3 emule compatible Programs for Linux.
[11:54] <noxxle> how can i change my gnome installation to kubuntu??
[11:54] <Trollinator> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:55] <noxxle> is that it?
[11:55] <noxxle> i wanna remove all my gnome crap
[11:56] <lobosque> hey guys, the mount command is mount -t HD destiny, i tried to put /hdb1 in HD but is wrong, how i do it right?
[11:57] <noxxle> do i hae to change my srouces?
[11:57] <noxxle> if i install kubuntu desktop
[11:57] <Trollinator> noxxle: run aptitude in a terminal, select "installed packages" --> "gnome" and hit the - key
[11:58] <Trollinator> kubuntu-desktop is in the main repo.
[11:58] <rav3n> libxine-extracodecs never succeeded in  installing it from the repos , always manually doing it.. :S   any help why is this??
[11:58] <noxxle> yea but after its installed
[11:58] <caseyomah> lobosque: Try mount -t auto /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1
[11:58] <Trollinator> of course...
[11:59] <caseyomah> Anyone else has Edgy fail to mount isos on loop?
[12:00] <Trollinator> Jonty's exit message shows very well how clueless Linus Torvalds is...
[12:00] <caseyomah> ...And yet he made Linux...
[12:01] <noxxle> compiz or beryl better for kubuntu??
[12:01] <unix_infidel> Trollinator: an odd statement...coming from...you.
[12:01] <Trollinator> So what? Linux is just a SysV clone.
[12:02] <Trollinator> He said it himself: "Linux is evolution, not intelligent design".
[12:02] <caseyomah> So Linus was just stating his preferance for symbolic languages over OO language.
[12:02] <ccomp5950> Might want to get the full quote...http://blog.levhita.net/2006/07/27/visual-basic%E2%80%9D-did-more-for-programming-than-object-oriented-languages%E2%80%9D-did/
[12:03] <ccomp5950> makes more sense then
[12:03] <LastMall> a ferrari is an evolution of a model A too
[12:03] <noxxle> now that i apt-getted kubuntu desktop how do i boot to it? i have both gnome and kubuntu on this machine now
[12:03] <Trollinator> He certainly has project management skills, but he doesn't know much about OS theory
[12:03] <caseyomah> At X login you select KDE from the menu.
[12:03] <Trollinator> you can select when you log in
[12:03] <Trollinator> ^^
[12:03] <softmaster> can i share my files on windows network in kubuntu?
[12:04] <Chousuke> Trollinator: Why does he need to know theory?
[12:04] <Chousuke> Trollinator: he's done it in practice :)
[12:04] <caseyomah> softmaster: Yes, it's called Samba server.
[12:04] <softmaster> how to activate it
[12:05] <caseyomah> softmaster: sudo apt-get samba | kdesu kate /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:05] <aterphasma> are there any fixes for the battery monitor/acpi thing?
[12:05] <Trollinator> Chousuke: there *is* a point in theory, even if you and L. T. don't understand that
[12:05] <Trollinator> The Linux design is a mess
[12:05] <teledyn> noxxle: apt-get remove gdm
[12:05] <caseyomah> Trollinator: So you're saying that Unix is less of a mess?
[12:05] <Chousuke> Trollinator: What software is not a mess?
[12:06] <Chousuke> :P
[12:06] <Trollinator> caseyomah: no, but making such a mess was normal when UNIX was created
[12:06] <Chousuke> Anyway, You're making pretty bold assumptions. :)
[12:06] <Chousuke> True to your name I guess. :P
[12:07] <Trollinator> Microkernels weren't very well-developed then
[12:07] <h3sp4wn> still are not
[12:07] <Trollinator> yes they are
[12:07] <fdoving> !offtopic
[12:07] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:07] <caseyomah> Trollinator: I would say that Linux is exactly what it's supposed to be: A Unix clone.
[12:07] <Chousuke> meh :/
[12:07] <teledyn> noxxle: also apt-get remove any gnome-metapackage if you see any, like gnome-desktop
[12:08] <Trollinator> You can achieve almost the same performance with a microkernel as with a monolithic kernel
[12:08] <bobbyyu> HELP! I can't work my shell!
[12:08] <Chousuke> Just when we were about to have a nice micro-macro-exo-whatever debate, you say it's offtopic :(
[12:08] <bobbyyu> When I press ls, it says command not found
[12:08] <Trollinator> lol
[12:08] <bobbyyu> When I type sudo, it says command not found
[12:08] <fdoving> Chousuke: feel free to move the discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:08] <h3sp4wn> Trollinator: almost being the operative word - not as fast
[12:08] <Chousuke> fdoving: heh. yeah :P
[12:08] <unix_infidel> bobbyyu: most likely you lost your $PATH
[12:09] <unix_infidel> mwahahaha...i made a funny.
[12:09] <bobbyyu> How do I regain it?
[12:09] <caseyomah> Look at $MAP
[12:09] <Chousuke> Trollinator: Microkernels are not a panacea either. :)
[12:09] <caseyomah> (My little funny)
[12:09] <teledyn> bobbyyu: you have no ls command?
[12:09] <bobbyyu> No
[12:09] <Trollinator> h3sp4wn: that's easily compensated by the higher reliability of a microkernel based system
[12:09] <teledyn> uh oh
[12:10] <redtricycle> I have a question about the trash
[12:10] <redtricycle> I mv'd
[12:10] <Trollinator> export PATH=/usr/bin:/usr
[12:10] <redtricycle> something to ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[12:10] <Trollinator> um, sorry
[12:10] <redtricycle> how do I make it show up in "trash:/" from Konqueror?
[12:10] <Chousuke> you need /usr/sbin too
[12:10] <h3sp4wn> bobbyyu: source /etc/profile
[12:10] <Chousuke> and /sbin
[12:10] <Trollinator> export PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin
[12:10] <teledyn> bobbyyu: what does echo $PATH say?
[12:10] <softmaster> is there any way to use subtitles with rmvb in kubuntu
[12:11] <caseyomah> Trollinator: Linus is not the source of the bloatware linux. Linux had microkernels until rather recently.
[12:11] <bobbyyu> $/home/bobbyyu/Java/jdk1.5.0_07/bin
[12:11] <unix_infidel> LOL
[12:11] <Trollinator> caseyomah: Linux never was a microkernel
[12:11] <teledyn> actually you would want export PATH=/usr/bin:/usr:${PATH}
[12:12] <ccomp5950> Linux was always a macrokernel
[12:12] <Chousuke> Even if you use a superior technology, it does not guarantee that your product is superior.