[12:01] <salim> indeed, and this new release is really greate
[12:01] <somedude> does chinese and usb work right out the box on ubuntu
[12:01] <ianmacgregor> I would love to be able to do that
[12:01] <Berdine> tonyyarusso, I'ma try the other way to do it in the link you gave me~ :)
[12:01] <dekela> dabaR,
[12:01] <mwe> Potato333: but if you know of some specific options to gcc or the configure process that would speed up things it could be faster if you compiled it yourself
[12:01] <Tim90> I jsut want to watch tv and listen to radio or music
[12:01] <wastrel> ianmacgregor:  i don't believe it's possible in gnome
[12:01] <Potato333> mwe:  i getcha
[12:01] <dekela> dabaR, Guess what!!!?? I am in my Ubuntu!!! The only thing I needed to change what the root partition
[12:01] <Daviey> Tim90, if thats all you want. why use mythtv?  it;s a little bloated for JUST watching tv
[12:01] <ianmacgregor> wastrel: :(
[12:01] <dekela> dabaR, It was (hd0,2)
[12:02] <wastrel> ianmacgregor:  i think you can in kde - totally may be wrong tho :] 
[12:02] <Tim90> Daviey: im new to this ,what can i use
[12:02] <dabaR> dekela: what do you mean? do you mean that what we did worked, or you tried something else?
[12:02] <Potato333> OK before i go, last time i will ask.----ACT! is a commercial Contact and Customer Relationship Management Software. ----Is there a OpenSource or FreeWare application similar to ACT?
[12:02] <ianmacgregor> wastrel: Yes, you can do it in KDE
[12:02] <dekela> dabaR, It loaded grub
[12:02] <dekela> dabaR, which is a start
[12:02] <somedude> does ubuntu use kde
[12:02] <dabaR> Potato333: aptitude search crm
[12:02] <apokryphos> somedude: check the FAQ
[12:03] <factorx_> somedude, no, but kubuntu does
[12:03] <mwe> somedude: not by default
[12:03] <Daviey> Tim90, try Rhythumbox (sp) for music
[12:03] <Potato333> dabaR: roger that
[12:03] <dekela> dabaR, then I when I tried to load it failed on (hd1,4) so I changed it to (hd0,2)
[12:03] <mwe> somedude: you can install it if you like though or just get kubuntu
[12:03] <dekela> dabaR, Anyway.. You are the man
[12:03] <somedude> is ubuntu supporting gnome too
[12:03] <somedude> i think ive had enough of fedora for now
[12:03] <Potato333> -------ok everyone, i am out. THanks again for all your help! I love you all! =D
[12:03] <dekela> dabaR, Or woman... ;-)
[12:03] <Tim90> i want a media center pc
[12:03] <mwe> somedude: well it's the default DE
[12:03] <dabaR> Potato333: there is an app called otrs. ask google that question I am sure it knows of an app that you could use
[12:03] <somedude> but i left debian for a reason and i dont want to go back
[12:03] <Daviey> Tim90, then you do want to sue mythtv
[12:03] <somedude> whats the default de gnome?
[12:04] <mwe> somedude: yeah
[12:04] <nomore> I've upgraded my Ubuntu to Edgy Eft, from Dapper Drake, I was so happy, it asked me to reboot the pc to take effect, when I did. AlL it does is that, it goes black. I tried booting into (recovery mode), and when i type 'startx' to manually start x server, I get this error -> Failed to start the X server. It is likely that it is not setup correctly. How do i fix this problem?
[12:04] <dabaR> dekela: thanks.
[12:04] <DanSchnell> LjL, are you back yet?
[12:04] <Daviey> Tim90, not sue, use
[12:04] <LjL> DanSchnell: yes
[12:04] <C-O-L-T> 	hello I have a bug with power management in dapper. When I close my laptop lid ubuntu shuts down my screen and when I reopen it I can not turn my screen on just with ctrl+alt+f7
[12:04] <Tim90> lol
[12:04] <dekela> dabaR, And BTW: I love you for that!!!
[12:04] <Potato333> dabaR: ok
[12:04] <dabaR> dekela: heh
[12:04] <DanSchnell> LjL, now what?
[12:04] <mwe> somedude: sudo aptitude install kubuntu desktop would get kde though
[12:04] <salim> does anybody know a good howto to install my ati-x700-mobility-card on my ubuntu 6.10 ?
[12:04] <dabaR> !ati
[12:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:05] <Tim90> Whats the data base about,is it a file sever like thing
[12:05] <Daviey> Tim90, okay.... do you have a combined front & backend.  Ie are the tuners on the box that will be connected to te tv
[12:05] <mwe> somedude: or you could DL the kubuntu install cd instead
[12:05] <salim> thanks
[12:05] <wastrel> dabaR:  that howto is broken
[12:05] <ruda> j #d00dz f0rk
[12:05] <dabaR> wastrel: really?
[12:05] <wastrel> dabaR:  it didn't work for me anyway
[12:05] <wastrel> it's missing a step (again, at least for my system)
[12:05] <Tim90> COrrect Daviey: they are in the box that will be connected to the tv
[12:05] <dabaR> wastrel: did you note that on the wiki?
[12:06] <hilz> jrib: thanks. i am in the process of upgrading! thank you for your help
[12:06] <LjL> DanSchnell: are you in a shell?
[12:06] <Daviey> Tim90, you will get much better support from #mythtv-users
[12:06] <Daviey> Tim90, the database stores all the settings for mythtv
[12:06] <wastrel> dabaR:  not yet - i wanted to see if someone smarter than me thought it was safe
[12:06] <DanSchnell> LjL, no but I have the console open
[12:06] <Tim90> Cheers Davie
[12:06] <C-O-L-T> 	hello I have a bug with power management in dapper. When I close my laptop lid ubuntu shuts down my screen and when I reopen it I can not turn my screen on just with ctrl+alt+f7
[12:06] <Carloz> evening all
[12:07] <Daviey> Tim90, if your after a dedicated mythtv box... then i would probably start off with knoppmyth.  Thats what i used until i got my head around linux
[12:07] <somedude> that tech support guy in the green shirt on the ubuntu website gives me a bad vibe
[12:07] <dabaR> wastrel: well, I am not that person.
[12:07] <Carloz> Im getting a cannot initialize hal when I login
[12:07] <somedude> why are there so many pictures of people on that site
[12:07] <wastrel> dabaR:  the fglrx module wasn't loading after I followed the ATI howto, I found another howto that suggested doing    sudo depmod -a   -  and that fixed it
[12:07] <LjL> DanSchnell: type "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12:07] <somedude> no other distro has all these people pictures on it
[12:07] <Bacon> wow
[12:07] <gypo> can someone help a total noob?
[12:07] <Bacon> ubuntu isnt bad
[12:07] <dabaR> somedude: ubuntu - I am who I am cause of what we are. Ubuntu- linux for human beings, get the flow?
[12:07] <dabaR> !helpme
[12:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:07] <Bacon> I have some questions: someone do a 1 on 1 chat with me?
[12:07] <MTPIUser> tsk tsk
[12:07] <LjL> DanSchnell: you should see a long file.
[12:08] <C-O-L-T> !lid
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <clop> will the linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic be an smp kernel?
[12:08] <Tim90> Good idea
[12:08] <Carloz> anyone ?
[12:08] <dabaR> Bacon: just ask here.
[12:08] <Carloz> im using egdy
[12:08] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, did you get it installed?...
[12:08] <nomore> I've upgraded my Ubuntu to Edgy Eft, from Dapper Drake, I was so happy, it asked me to reboot the pc to take effect, when I did. AlL it does is that, it goes black. I tried booting into (recovery mode), and when i type 'startx' to manually start x server, I get this error -> Failed to start the X server. It is likely that it is not setup correctly. How do i fix this problem?
[12:08] <Russel> hiho
[12:08] <BryanJK> nope
[12:08] <DanSchnell> LjL, yes
[12:08] <Bacon> dabaR: I cant connect to the internet does ubuntu recognize my WiFi connection via USB?
[12:08] <Russel> where is the init file for the time update at boot time?
[12:08] <dabaR> nomore: tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[12:08] <dabaR> Bacon: run iwconfig to see
[12:08] <BryanJK> Hey nomasteryoda?
[12:09] <Carloz> dabaR:   can u help me ?
[12:09] <Bacon> dabar
[12:09] <Bacon> hmm
[12:09] <nomasteryoda|w> man, i've gotta run for now, but surely someone here will be able to help..
[12:09] <mwe> nomore: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues
[12:09] <Bacon> I wouldn't know what iwconfig is =/
[12:09] <BryanJK> Is it possible to steal the filles of a VMware Virtal Hardisk and place them so they boot on my actualy pc?
[12:09] <dabaR> gypo: just ask your question
[12:09] <Hamal_Dragon> hi
[12:09] <Bacon> I just ran the "LIVE" function
[12:09] <gypo> I cant connect to the internet, i can ping my router, but i cant do apt-get update
[12:09] <nomore> dabaR Not yet, After I've typed that, should i go on and proceed to 'startx' ?
[12:09] <dabaR> gypo: can you ping the internet?
[12:09] <LjL> DanSchnell: ok, now hit Ctrl+W, and type "PCI:1:0:0" -- does that move you to somewhere in the file that says PCI:1:0:0?
[12:09] <gypo> dont know how
[12:09] <dabaR> nomore: try that tell us how it worked.
[12:09] <nomore> mwe but the problem is that, it has strange characters around the borders.
[12:09] <Carloz> anyone ?
[12:10] <nomore> big A
[12:10] <dabaR> gypo: ping 164.109.28.3 in a terminal
[12:10] <nomore> etc.
[12:10] <Alpha3> dabar - wth is the internet? how do u ping it?
[12:10] <Bacon> dabaR: While I am educated somewhat on PC symantecs I dont understand the partition deal...
[12:10] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, windows you mean? I would guess windows pukes on different hardware ... as such a change would bring. Vmware is definitely different from your real hardware
[12:10] <nomore> Alpha3 in terminal.
[12:10] <dabaR> Alpha3: do you need some help?
[12:10] <somedude> i find the name warty warthog makes me think of someone horribly disfigured by warts
[12:10] <Hamal_Dragon> i have a problem. I updated to edgy and no i cant boot. It show a messages telling that theres no /sbin/init. I have mounted the partition and indeed theres no init on sbin, and i dont know what to do
[12:10] <BryanJK> AS in
[12:10] <Carloz> dabaR:   I need help
[12:10] <tuxub> hello, is there a easy way to change the default encoding of the OS?
[12:10] <Carloz> Im getting a cannot initialize hal when I login
[12:10] <BryanJK> did ubuntu install drivers ?
[12:10] <Alpha3> dabar - that was a joke, u cant ping the internet
[12:10] <DanSchnell> LjL, yes
[12:10] <BryanJK> or is it able to be moved?
[12:10] <livingtm> anyone have a plextor convertx tv tuner box working in edgy?
[12:10] <nomasteryoda|w> ubuntu on the other hand should boot fine BryanJK but you'll have to tweak grub and install it if it's not there...
[12:10] <dabaR> Alpha3: I can
[12:10] <somedude> and edgy eft makes me think of a guy on crystal meth whos asking me for change
[12:10] <nomasteryoda|w> lata
[12:10] <Alpha3> dabar - u can ping a site on the internet, but not it specifically
[12:11] <Alpha3> dabar - whats the internets ip?
[12:11] <Alpha3> lmfao
[12:11] <somedude> linux people gotta make better names for their stuff
[12:11] <BryanJK> ok
[12:11] <gypo> its trying but its stalled
[12:11] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[12:11] <LjL> DanSchnell: ok. now, on the line just above that one, you should have     Driver "something"            --  change that to       Driver "vesa"
[12:11] <gypo> can we talk private
[12:11] <BryanJK> how do i extract files from a VMware hardrive?
[12:11] <dabaR> Alpha3: you think you stated something that we did not know already?
[12:11] <Alpha3> gypo - check ifconfig
[12:11] <gypo> did that, it looks good
[12:11] <noex> Hey al.
[12:11] <Hamal_Dragon> please, help
[12:11] <Carloz> PLEASE HELP
[12:11] <LjL> DanSchnell: done?
[12:12] <DanSchnell> LjL, yes
[12:12] <Alpha3> gypo - cat /etc/resolv.conf - see if ns servers were grabbed as well
[12:12] <LjL> !caps | carloz
[12:12] <ubotu> carloz: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:12] <BryanJK> (L)(a)(u)(g)(h)(i)(n)(g)()(O)(u)(t)()(L)(o)(u)(d)!
[12:12] <BryanJK> i love that
[12:12] <Carloz> Im getting a cannot initialize hal when I login
[12:12] <LjL> DanSchnell: now hit Ctrl+X, then S, then Enter, to save and exit
[12:12] <Carloz> sorry
[12:12] <noex> Anyone else having issues with Flash 9 on Edgy? I can't seem to get ABC.com streaming video to work, although right clicking on the site shows me that I am using Version 9. Any ideas?
[12:12] <BryanJK> god i hate this script (B)(e)()(R)(i)(g)(h)(t)()(B)(a)(c)(k)
[12:12] <Hamal_Dragon> i have a problem. I updated to edgy and no i cant boot. It show a messages telling that theres no /sbin/init. I have mounted the partition and indeed theres no init on sbin, and i dont know what to do
[12:13] <DanSchnell> LjL, saved
[12:13] <LjL> DanSchnell: now type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[12:13] <Carloz> is someone going to help me ?
[12:13] <BryanJK> there
[12:13] <gypo> alpha  tried it and just gives me another prompt
[12:13] <dabaR> Carloz: did you try rebooting?
[12:13] <Carloz> yes i did
[12:13] <dabaR> Carloz: is there anything that does not work because of that error?
[12:14] <Gassed> hi
[12:14] <Alpha3> gypo - is that file empty?
[12:14] <gypo> how do i know?
[12:14] <Gassed> Could someone guide me through compiling Pure Data?
[12:14] <Carloz> well the device manager dont work, guess its cuz of hal too
[12:14] <dabaR> Alpha3: well, since there was nothing displayed, yes the file was empty.
[12:14] <gypo> im a total noob
[12:14] <DanSchnell> LjL, did that.  I think its restarting, but I'm still stuck in xorg.conf
[12:14] <clop> woah, my emacs fonts are all screwed up after upgrading to edgy
[12:14] <lukeb> can anyone help me with this problem please? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1679411
[12:14] <Carloz> and i can add users from x
[12:14] <profoX`> What does upstart have to do with teardown? how are the projects linked? is teardown integrated in upstart now?
[12:14] <BryanJK> hey nomasteryoda? do you know how to extract VMware Virtual Hardisk images?
[12:14] <gypo> alpha  Can i edit that file?
[12:14] <LjL> DanSchnell: hm? stuck in xorg.conf, what do you mean?
[12:14] <wastrel> !grub | lukeb
[12:14] <ubotu> lukeb: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:15] <Carloz> i switch to linux so i wont have to reboot everytime theres a problem :/
[12:15] <lukeb> thanks wastrel, ur a champ!
[12:15] <ProN00b> when will that gnome bug getting fixed ?
[12:15] <Music_Shuffle> Which?
[12:16] <DanSchnell> LjL, i typed in the command and pressed enter and its still there on the bottom of the screen with the /etc/X11/xorg.conf info (nVidia driver etc) above it
[12:16] <Carloz> god damn it! im switching back to Gentoo, ubuntu`s support sucks balls!
[12:16] <ProN00b> the one where icons you move in the iconbar loose their propertys
[12:16] <tuxub> my nautilus left tree view has disappeared since I upgraded to edgy on one of my 3 machines. the other 2 stayed ok. is there a way to reenable the treeview?
[12:16] <LjL> DanSchnell: wait, if you've still got the xorg.conf file on your screen, you haven't really saved it... what does it say on the status line, at the bottom=
[12:16] <Hamal_Dragon> i have a problem. I updated to edgy and no i cant boot. It show a messages telling that theres no /sbin/init. I have mounted the partition and indeed theres no init on sbin, and i dont know what to do
[12:17] <ReconUnit411> o
[12:17] <Hamal_Dragon> please help!
[12:17] <CPF_> Anyone here knows a good program for connecting to a device using the NULL modem?
[12:17] <LjL> DanSchnell: oh wait, i told you to press Ctrl+X then S then Enter... that would be Ctrl+X then *Y* then Enter
[12:17] <tonyyarusso> Is there a way to have sed apply the changes it makes to a file other than sed 's/dfs/dsf/' file > file?
[12:17] <Hamal_Dragon> is there a way to restore init without reinstalling?
[12:17] <DanSchnell> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:17] <Triplemeh> I have a question about keyboard shortcuts and sound.
[12:17] <DanSchnell> LjL, thats actually what I did, since there was no S choice
[12:18] <Kingsqueak> perl -pie s/dfs/dsf/ filename.txt
[12:18] <Triplemeh> Each time I set a keyboard shortcut (in gnome) to control sound volume, it lowers and raises the default volume.
[12:18] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: I think sysvinit was replace by upstart
[12:18] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: how did you upgrade?
[12:18] <Triplemeh> In my case, it is the LFE channel...something I do not have because I use headphones (so it is the front channel)
[12:18] <NemesisD> hey guys, im trying to get this stupid d-link usb wireless adapter working with ubuntu and someone suggested that instead of using ndiswrapper, ubuntu might have "native" support for it, anyone know anything about this?
[12:18] <Triplemeh> how do I change the default?
[12:18] <Hamal_Dragon> i updated the sources.list, and do dist-upgrade
[12:18] <ReconUnit411> Is there a way to upgrde to 6.10 without resetting everything?
[12:19] <dabaR> Hamal_Dragon: and the sysvinit package is installed?
[12:19] <Hamal_Dragon> but i rebooted into the new kernel without problems. The proble came during the second boot
[12:19] <LjL> DanSchnell: oh, alright then, but if you still have the file on your screen, it means you haven't really saved and closed yet
[12:19] <BryanJK> What program do you guys use to Burn ISOs to CDs
[12:19] <ReconUnit411> helllo?
[12:19] <DanSchnell> LjL, I'll just reboot again...
[12:19] <dabaR> !iso
[12:19] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:19] <JoseStefan> BryanJK, i just right click the ISO
[12:19] <Hamal_Dragon> no, its not installed
[12:20] <BryanJK> tsk tsk tsk
[12:20] <dabaR> BryanJK: right click>write to disc
[12:20] <BryanJK> yes
[12:20] <BryanJK> but thats not built into windows
[12:20] <BryanJK> you need a third party proggie for it
[12:20] <TGPO> oh
[12:20] <TGPO> Nero
[12:20] <livingtm> anyone know if edgy for amd64 kernel has video4linux option in it?
[12:20] <bimbim> helo
[12:20] <DanSchnell> LjL, should i start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode?
[12:20] <bimbim> alguien hable espaol
[12:20] <LjL> DanSchnell: wait. what do you have on your screen? do you still have a white bar at the bottom?
[12:20] <dabaR> !install
[12:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:20] <funkygreendogs> lads anyone help me windows overwrote the master boot record and i need to get back into ubuntu !!
[12:21] <LjL> DanSchnell, no use restarting. any changes you made to xorg.conf will be lost
[12:21] <Hamal_Dragon> and apt says that the upstart pack is not available, but replaced by many others
[12:21] <Zyfo> When I run todo.sh I get this error message: ./todo.sh: 181: shopt: not found // ./todo.sh: 207: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting ";;") What's wrong?
[12:21] <dabaR> BryanJK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:21] <DanSchnell> LjL, not anymore I rebooted, but I had a white line of text if that what you mean
[12:21] <dabaR> Zyfo: we need to see the script
[12:22] <bimbim> hola
[12:22] <bimbim> alguien habla espaol
[12:22] <LjL> !es | bimbim
[12:22] <ubotu> bimbim: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:22] <Zyfo> dabaR, http://todotxt.com/library/todo.sh/ It should work though, I didn't code it :P
[12:22] <Hamal_Dragon> dabaR:
[12:22] <nomore> dabaR, I've ran your cmd, and it said my xserver was broken or not install, I've installed xserver, and now, im chatting from my 6.10 box,thanks!
[12:22] <dabaR> funkygreendogs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:23] <dabaR> nomore: so I fixed your issue? I don't even remember talking to you, but great
[12:23] <bimbim> #ubuntu-es
[12:23] <Hamal_Dragon> if i try to install upstarts it says that have been replaced by sysvinit, and if i try to install sysvinit, that it have been replaced by upstart
[12:23] <Hamal_Dragon> dont understand anything
[12:23] <funkygreendogs> dabaR: thanks mate
[12:23] <dabaR> bimbim: /j #ubuntu-es
[12:23] <Web-ubuntu557> why my printer epson epl-6200l non work? please help me....
[12:23] <jrattner> Can you over clock a screen resolution
[12:23] <TC`> !rar
[12:23] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:24] <JoseStefan> jrattner, display "shouldn't" let you
[12:24] <NemesisD> anyone? can't get my USB network adapter working with ndiswrapper, im on my second day trying to get this thing going
[12:24] <Hamal_Dragon> i have noticed that cant access internet throw the chrooted partiton
[12:24] <Megaqwerty> for some reason Open Office .org's Word Proccessor isn't underlining incorrectly spelled words. Can anyone help?
[12:24] <Hamal_Dragon> what can i do to do an apt-get update?
[12:24] <nomore> dabaR,  I'm the one, who had the Failed X server, error. and you've suggested sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:24] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: did you aptitude dist-upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade? I heard about problems with the latter
[12:24] <Hamal_Dragon> apt-get, mwe
[12:24] <retry> so I can get X to start if I run startX -- -ignoreABI <-- how do I fix this or permanently work around it?
[12:24] <Hamal_Dragon> shit
[12:25] <Hamal_Dragon> i just readed in the official web site
[12:25] <AkumAPRIME> hmm... is it difficult to watch embedded movies? I have a link if anyone wants to see a specific example. I think its wmv, not certain though.
[12:25] <TGPO> NemesisD the biggest problem people run into with ndiswrapper is using the wrong drivers even though they have the same name
[12:25] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: at least "upstart" is what you need. it provides init as well
[12:25] <Dr_willis> retry,  i think kdm/gdm config files have options for that in their configs.. and there also some other xconfigs that you may set that as the defaults.
[12:25] <Hamal_Dragon> ok
[12:25] <NemesisD> TGPO, got the drivers from the d-link website and have both of them installed, both are detected
[12:26] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade now if you can somehow maybe
[12:26] <Hamal_Dragon> but, how can i installed in the chrooted partiton? i try lynx, or apt-get update and cant connect to the internet
[12:26] <jrattner> Question: If I have a pentium 4 with HT what kernel should i be using?
[12:26] <Megaqwerty> does anyone know how to fix my problem? (it should be quick) ^^
[12:26] <TC`> !rar
[12:26] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:26] <Gassed> Please, can someone help me compile PureData
[12:26] <jrattner> Right now im using linux-generic
[12:26] <TGPO> NemesisD match up lspci with lspci -n and get the drivers from the ndiswrapper wiki. 99% of the time that clears up the problems
[12:27] <mcrandello> Megaqwerty, you might get better heolp for openoffice in #openoffice.org
[12:27] <Hamal_Dragon> Megaqwerty: you probably havent installed the dictionary in your language
[12:27] <mcrandello> or that
[12:27] <Hamal_Dragon> look at the language section in the configuration
[12:27] <Megaqwerty> no, it worked before.
[12:27] <Megaqwerty> thanks mcrandello, i'll try that
[12:27] <NemesisD> TGPO okay let me try that
[12:27] <NemesisD> TGPO, its USB though
[12:27] <JoseStefan> tonyyarusso, man sed for "-i" switch
[12:27] <mcrandello> heh the topic for @openoffice is "openoffice.org actually haspeople in it"
[12:28] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: do you know how to use chrrot with intenet available in tha selected partition ?
[12:28] <jrattner> Question: If I have a Pentium 4 with HT what kernel should i be using?
[12:28] <DanSchnell> LjL, i just ran <sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart> and my console reads "Stopping GNOME Display Manager [OK]  Starting GNOME Display Manager [Fail] "
[12:28] <TGPO> you'll be matching the lsusb -n (I think)
[12:28] <iron_manh> anybody have a problem with cursor rendering on second monitor with edgy?
[12:29] <Gassed> can someone help me compile PureData
[12:29] <NemesisD> TGPO, lsusb doesn't seem to have the option for -n
[12:29] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: yes. boot a live cd and get internet connection from that. then chroot
[12:29] <AkumAPRIME> ok, so I'm reading the Gentoo HowTo Dual monitor wiki, but it doesnt have info on my integrated intel video card. Anyone here know if I can use the settings from the other cards with my intel card?
[12:29] <dabaR> Gassed: what have you tried so far?
[12:29] <Gassed> dabaR: I tried ./configure
[12:29] <dabaR> Gassed: and do you have some pastebin links for us?
[12:29] <lupine_85> jrattner: linux-2.6.17-10-generic
[12:29] <NemesisD> TGPO, am i looking for vendor and product id?
[12:29] <lupine_85> or build your own
[12:29] <Berdine> Mkay, I'm trying to do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, the second one on the page, and it says "Mount your appropriate linux partions:" But I'm not sure how to do that?
[12:29] <jrattner> lupine_85, thank you
[12:29] <mcrandello> iron_manh, I got a big goofy blck of crap instead of a cursor with the fglrx drivers and dual head, but then I still have to reconfigure it for big-desktop
[12:29] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: thats exactly what im doing. I have internet outside the chroot console, but not inside
[12:29] <Gassed> dabaR: what do you mean
[12:30] <dabaR> Gassed: did you get errors? we will need to see them, pastebin is a good place to post, see topic.
[12:30] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: maybe you need to copy over resolv.conf first
[12:30] <iron_manh> mcrandello, i have the same problem too, how did you solve it?
[12:30] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: can you ping a numeric IP?
[12:30] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: ill try, thanks
[12:30] <Megaqwerty> it doesn't seem like anyone is alive in #openoffice.org, so does anyone know why OpenOffice.org's Word Processor isn't underlining incorrectly spelled words?
[12:30] <Hamal_Dragon> whait
[12:30] <sfdsadfdsf> hi, my soundblaster live 5.1 doesn't sound, what can I do?
[12:30] <dabaR> Megaqwerty: spell check is off?
[12:30] <mcrandello> iron_manh, I haven't yet. I'm going to try copying over an older xorg.conf and see if that helps later
[12:30] <Megaqwerty> dabaR: how would I fix that?
[12:31] <Gassed> dabaR: all I get it  error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:31] <Megaqwerty> I'm not sure what I did :-\
[12:31] <Gassed> dabaR: I have GCC
[12:31] <TC`> !video
[12:31] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:31] <mcrandello> iron_manh, my first goal is to get the wifi off the same irq as the mouse+modem
[12:31] <Bacon> dabaR: is there any manuals about partitioning drives using ubuntu's installer?
[12:31] <pazemlsqdfmoj> im having problems with my pda hookup, anyone have any experience with that?
[12:31] <NemesisD> TGPO, -d seems to show vendor and productid, is that what im supposed to be looking for in lsusb?
[12:31] <Cilindrador> i just CTRL-ALT-BCLSPace'd my system, and now the resolution's gone to hell. it was supposed to be 1280*800, but now im stuk with 800*600... Ideas????
[12:31] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: i can ping my router
[12:31] <dabaR> Gassed: I would still prefer to see it on a pastebin, and do you have build-essential installed?
[12:31] <Dr_willis> sfdsadfdsf,  check the mixer settings to be sure its unmuted for a start.. check dmesg output to see if its seen, and lspci output..  it shoudl work fine.
[12:31] <mcrandello> Megaqwerty, check the options for autocorrect/spellcheck
[12:31] <LjL> DanSchnell: messy issue... look, all i can tell you is to try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" again. i'd ask you to pastebin your xorg.conf, but i suppose you can't
[12:31] <dabaR> Bacon: not that I know of
[12:31] <Gassed> dabaR: No I don
[12:31] <Gassed> dabaR:t
[12:31] <TGPO> NemesisD the xxxx:xxxx code for device ID
[12:31] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: well maybe you need to bind /dev as well. hold on I think I have some notes ...
[12:31] <dabaR> Gassed: go get it
[12:31] <Berdine> Can anyone point me in the right direction? :3
[12:31] <Bacon> dabar: how do I know which drive to partition? =/
[12:32] <iron_manh> mcrandello: ah I see, I tried using my old xorg.conf but it doesn't work. even after setting 'Option "SW_Cursor" "true"'
[12:32] <Hamal_Dragon> ok
[12:32] <Gassed> dabaR: apt-get install build-essential?
[12:32] <NemesisD> ok i think thats -d lemme try it
[12:32] <dabaR> Gassed: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[12:32] <mr3vil> hey everyone. i have problems installing the gstreamer0.10-pitfdll in dapper? can anyone help me?
[12:32] <mcrandello> iron_manh, maybe you have to do something specifically like that for the second head
[12:32] <Megaqwerty> mcrandello: I don't see it.
[12:32] <mcrandello> I'm at a loss with this R7 stuff
[12:32] <AlienX> not to sound like a lamer, but is anyone having any issues with firefox crashing when in myspace?
[12:32] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: well you need to bind /proc I think
[12:33] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: how?
[12:33] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: where is your broken system mounted?
[12:33] <Bacon> dabar: this might sound queer, but where would I type in iwconfig?
[12:33] <DanSchnell> LjL, i did <sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf> and editted and saved it then ram <sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart> and now the 3 lines after it read
[12:33] <strabes> AlienX: no but it's probably  a problem with your plugins
[12:33] <iron_manh> mcrandello: hmm, tried that too.
[12:33] <Cilindrador> AlienX that's called self-defense
[12:33] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: on /mnt
[12:33] <mcrandello> Megaqwerty, http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/tutorial/Spellcheck_and_Thesaurus.html see if that helps
[12:33] <Zyfo> in .bashrc, how do I enable a ./thingy to be launched everywhere? I got told to write "PATH=$PATH:"<path to your folder>"  but doesn't seem to work
[12:33] <dabaR> Bacon: in a terminal
[12:33] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: but i did chroot /mnt
[12:33] <Gassed> dabaR: Why does it have to be so hard to compile C/C++?
[12:33] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: exit that
[12:33] <AlienX> strabes, i was thinking that too but I'm not sure
[12:33] <AlienX> Cilindrador, lol hilarious
[12:33] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: so now / is the broken aprtition
[12:33] <DanSchnell> LjL, stopping GNOME Display Manager [Ok]  Starting GNOME Display Manager [Fail] 
[12:33] <NemesisD> TGPO, it appears to be 2001:3a03, does that sound about right?
[12:33] <Bacon> dabar: lord if I knew what a terminal was =/
[12:33] <Hamal_Dragon> ok
[12:33] <TGPO> that sounds right
[12:33] <dabaR> Bacon: apps>accessories
[12:34] <Gassed> dabaR: the thing I like about Windows is that you can usually download the binaries
[12:34] <Bacon> got ya
[12:34] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: now what?
[12:34] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: then sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/
[12:34] <Hamal_Dragon> ok
[12:34] <Megaqwerty> AlienX: it may be a problem with flash. Try changing you xorg.conf Display section from 16 bit to 24 bit
[12:34] <dabaR> Gassed: the thing I like about windows is nothing
[12:34] <Bacon> dabar: I really just need help installing ubuntu, I dont understand their partition option
[12:34] <AlienX> megadom, that would make sense. cheers!
[12:34] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: then sudo mount -t proc -o bind /proc -o bind /proc /mnt/proc
[12:34] <dabaR> Bacon: what OS are you running now?
[12:34] <NemesisD> TGPO, now which wiki was it that i was supposed to search this ID for?
[12:34] <Bacon> Windows OS
[12:34] <Bacon> I have two hard drives
[12:34] <TGPO> ndiswrapper wiki
[12:35] <dabaR> Bacon: OK, go on
[12:35] <Gassed> dabaR: I like Windows and Linux, Linux tends to be a little more secure but Windows is for newbs at PCs or people who prefer an easier machine
[12:35] <Bacon> the second hard drive is split in two partitions
[12:35] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: typo
[12:35] <dabaR> Gassed: which I am not, so it is not for me
[12:35] <Gassed> dabaR: I hate their tech support though, they know nothing
[12:35] <TGPO> NemesisD I'll see if I can get the link for the exact page
[12:35] <Megaqwerty> AlienX: so it looks like this:
[12:35] <Megaqwerty>     DefaultDepth    24
[12:35] <LjL> i tol you --  DanSchnell: messy issue... look, all i can tell you is to try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" again. i'd ask you to pastebin your xorg.conf, but i suppose you can't
[12:35] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: sudo mount -t proc -o bind /proc /mnt/proc
[12:35] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: trying to copy resolv conf it says it cant
[12:35] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: that's it sorry
[12:35] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: oh
[12:35] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: what did you type?
[12:35] <Gassed> dabaR: Some korean woman thought I was getting a new pc after I explained that I was just switching cases
[12:36] <AlienX> megadom, yeah, I just changed it. I'll need to restart gdm before anything will go into effect
[12:36] <Megaqwerty> AlienX: cool, hope it works
[12:36] <dabaR> Gassed: happens, training programs in tech support projects is crap lot of the time
[12:36] <lars_-> hi, is it possible to get ubuntu to install from a usbpen?
[12:36] <Logix> hello?
[12:36] <AkumAPRIME> Anyone here using dual monitor setup?
[12:36] <lars_-> i'm having trouble with my cd rom i think
[12:36] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: ok, i do it
[12:36] <AlienX> Megaqwerty, ack! sorry, I didn't realize I was hilighting someone else's nick :) I do appreciate your suggestion :)
[12:36] <AlienX> brb
[12:37] <dabaR> Bacon: and you want to install ubuntu on one of those partitions on the second drive?
[12:37] <ivx> hey i upgraded to edgy and now frost wire doesn't work. when i try to run it it says runFrost.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}"). anyone know whats up with that
[12:37] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: you did it, bind proc and cp resolv.conf?
[12:37] <Logix> im trying to upgrade to 6.10, but getting an error during the upgrade process... can anybody help?
[12:37] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: both
[12:37] <TGPO> NemesisD heres that link http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[12:37] <ivx> logix what error? what are you doing
[12:37] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: chrrot now?
[12:37] <Megaqwerty> Logix: what is your error?
[12:37] <Gassed> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28949/
[12:37] <NemesisD> TGPO, thanks!
[12:37] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: now sudo chroot /mnt. then ping yahoo.com
[12:38] <Logix> im running gksu "update-manager -c"
[12:38] <Logix> and it starts downloading files and all...
[12:38] <Logix> then i get the following error
[12:38] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: ok!, it worked!
[12:38] <dabaR> Gassed: link to page where you got the source, please.
[12:38] <Logix> "
[12:38] <Logix> A problem occurred during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry."
[12:38] <lukeb> is it possible to have a trash can on the desktop?
[12:38] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: thanks! ill try to install now upstart
[12:38] <Gassed> dabaR: www.puredata.info
[12:38] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: now source /etc/profile then sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:38] <Logix> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg Could not resolve packages.freecontrib.org
[12:38] <Logix> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz Could not resolve packages.freecontrib.org
[12:38] <Logix> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz Could not resolve packages.freecontrib.org
[12:38] <Logix> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/free/source/Sources.gz Could not resolve packages.freecontrib.org
[12:38] <Logix> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/source/Sources.gz Could not resolve packages.freecontrib.org
[12:39] <Megaqwerty> !paste
[12:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:39] <JoseStefan> !paste | Logix
[12:39] <ubotu> Logix: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:39] <AkumAPRIME> wow logix: you can pastebin that
[12:39] <lukeb> how do I get a waste-basket on the desktop in Gnome?
[12:39] <ivx> does anyone have a better sources list? i'm on edgy
[12:39] <JoseStefan> !plf | Logix
[12:39] <ubotu> Logix: PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[12:39] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: updating...
[12:39] <lars_-> anyone know if i can put ubuntu iso on my usbpen and install it from that?
[12:39] <DanSchnell> LjL, I got through sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then it brings me to a mini console on the bottome of the screen and type in sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart and I get the same results
[12:39] <Logix> sorry... wasnt aware of that...
[12:39] <Bacon> can linux write in fat32?
[12:39] <Megaqwerty> Bacon: yep
[12:40] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: if it succeds, make sure upstart is properly installed
[12:40] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: horror. aptitude wants to delete more than 500 packages
[12:40] <AkumAPRIME> lars_: not 100%, but I think if you can boot from the usb, you can
[12:40] <JoseStefan> Logix, consider removing plf from your sources.list (and any other 3rd party repo untul after the upgrade)
[12:40] <dabaR> Logix: in other words, remove plf from your sources.list
[12:40] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: hmm
[12:40] <JoseStefan> until*
[12:40] <Logix> thanks. will try and will update you!
[12:40] <Logix> be back in a few.
[12:40] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: well not upgrade them?
[12:40] <lars_-> AkumAPRIME: how do i put the "iso" onto the pen then, needs to be bootable
[12:41] <AkumAPRIME> good question lars,sorry, idk. I KNOW there are some articles about installing from USB. did you google?
[12:41] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: apt-get just tell me all is updated except a dozen of packages locked
[12:41] <dabaR> gassed install tcl8.4-dev
[12:41] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: that wont work
[12:41] <Gassed> okies
[12:41] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: is it gnome stuff it wants to remove?
[12:41] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: or all kinds of things?
[12:41] <lars_-> AkumAPRIME: only found about how to install onto a usbpen
[12:41] <AkumAPRIME> no one here uses dual monitor? Idk if thats because it's a pain to set up or people just dont know how amazing awesome it is
[12:41] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: i have installed via apt-get upstart, and no theres init on sbin
[12:41] <lars_-> and that's not what i want
[12:42] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: it's no good
[12:42] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: i think its done
[12:42] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. I've got a resolution issue where my screens (dual monitor single card) were okay, I opened the resolution switcher and changed it to a lesser value. Now when I try to take it back to the 2560x1024 resolution it was running at I get goobly gop, then black screen with mouse .. help?
[12:42] <AkumAPRIME> lars: isnt that what you want?
[12:42] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: well you might be able to boot but you need to resolv the version problems
[12:42] <AkumAPRIME> nineTeen67comet: what card are you using?
[12:42] <Triplemeh> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287383
[12:42] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: no, i use kde. its all kde and many libs and many phyton packs
[12:42] <lars_-> no, want to get the latest ubuntu installed from my usbpen rater than from my cdrom as i'm having issus with my cdrom reader
[12:42] <Triplemeh> my thread
[12:42] <Gassed> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28951/
[12:43] <AkumAPRIME> oh, I see, installed ONTO the pen, then you want to boot from that drive?
[12:43] <NineTeen67Comet> AkumAPRIME: n6800 Asurus card ..
[12:43] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: well, ill try to resolv that from insede. thank you ver very very much!
[12:43] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: well sudo aptitude update kubuntu-desktop first maybe
[12:43] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: ^
[12:43] <lars_-> AkumAPRIME: want to boot from that drive so i can do the install into my hd
[12:43] <JoshuaW> Hello :D
[12:43] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: well sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop first maybe
[12:43] <theplatypus> does anyone have the movies working in NWN (dapper)?
[12:43] <AkumAPRIME> nineteen67comet: where did you find the info to dual monitor setup? I desperately want to get mine up. using an Intel integrated card sadly
[12:43] <JoshuaW> I finally got my Ubuntu installation back up, now I just have to get the internet to work :P
[12:44] <Tim90> !nano
[12:44] <dabaR> Gassed: install tk8.3-dev, then run ./configure again.
[12:44] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[12:44] <theplatypus> the internet is working just fine
[12:44] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: I think that will proberly update kde and make aptitude happy
[12:44] <Bacon> Wondering if someone could help me out with partitions
[12:44] <AkumAPRIME> right lars, I THINK, not certain, that if you simply open the iso up to your drive, and your comp can boot from usb, that you should be ok
[12:44] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: then aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:44] <Tim90> !nnao
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nnao - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <Tim90> !nano
[12:44] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[12:44] <Weebelz> anyone running Ubuntu on a DFI Lanparty Motherboard?
[12:45] <JoshuaW> Can anyone help me know how to setup DWL-G122 on Ubuntu?
[12:45] <NineTeen67Comet> AkumAPRIME: you can totally use that onboard inell video and a cheap PCI card (I have an AGP n6800 and an FX5500 in my PCI slot for 4x monitors, 4x just doesn't work well (if at all) with Beryl/AIXGL yet.
[12:45] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: wow. it syas that it will delete many non-used, install all kde, and lock a pair of packages related to openoffice an koffice
[12:45] <Bacon> Wee I'm running it off the nforce chipset -> yes
[12:45] <crim> does ubuntu come with ati drivers installed by default?
[12:45] <dabaR> crim: no
[12:45] <NineTeen67Comet> AkumAPRIME: as you write your xorg.conf file you simply add sections for the other video card .
[12:45] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: I had to remove some stuff and reinstall it as well
[12:45] <theplatypus> no
[12:45] <lars_-> AkumAPRIME: will that make my usbpen bootable?
[12:45] <AkumAPRIME> nineteen67comet: I want to simply go off one card though... any ideas about that?
[12:46] <crim> is there a way to use the update system or do i have to do it manually, sorry im new to ubuntu
[12:46] <dabaR> !ati
[12:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:46] <JoshuaW> :P
[12:46] <NineTeen67Comet> AkumAPRIME: if you don't have a dual head card (output) then no you can't go dual monitors ..
[12:46] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: the update-manager was broken for me so I went with aptitude as well. using KDE as well BTW
[12:46] <AkumAPRIME> lars: a usbdrive is not bootable. Either your computer can boot From usb or it cant, I think
[12:46] <Megaqwerty> AlienX: Did it work?
[12:46] <crim> the ubotu
[12:46] <crim> thx
[12:46] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: and why apt-get upgraded that way and aptitude dont want to accept it? its ridiculous. it will delete xorg, and instlal kde. how?
[12:46] <AkumAPRIME> NineTeen67Comet: yes it has a monitor out, I dual with windows. But you mentioned a 2nd video card...
[12:46] <AlienX> Megaqwerty, absolutely. I appreciate it! I'm surprised they are defaulting at 16bit color
[12:46] <TC`> !rar
[12:46] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:47] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: aptitude is way more clever
[12:47] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: well, ill fight that battle tomorrow. i would try to reboot now.
[12:47] <Megaqwerty> AlienX: as am I, and you're welcome!
[12:47] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: I almost never use apt-get
[12:47] <Gassed> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28952/
[12:47] <NineTeen67Comet> AkumAPRIME: if you have two video outs then you can do it ..
[12:47] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: i used ever apt-get. its a romantic love-hate relationship
[12:47] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: lol
[12:47] <dabaR> Gassed: then run sudo make
[12:47] <zelda276> does anyone know where i can get a torrent file for ubuntu 6.10? the download page at ubuntu.com does not have one
[12:47] <AkumAPRIME> nineteen67comet: can you point me to a nice xorg.conf edit faq? :D
[12:47] <Gassed> okies
[12:47] <NineTeen67Comet> Just google for intel dual screen xorg.conf .. or something similar .. make a back up and test away ..
[12:48] <thee> my mp3s are playing faster than their normal speed. help anybody?
[12:48] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: fact is aptitude is way superior in most cases
[12:48] <kelten> How do I switch from generic to amd64?
[12:48] <AkumAPRIME> ty nineteen
[12:48] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: ill start using it
[12:48] <dabaR> thee: the program you are doing it in could have something to do with that...
[12:48] <Gassed> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28953/
[12:48] <JoeMama> !vmware
[12:48] <mcphail> zelda276: the download pages do have links to a .torrent
[12:48] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[12:48] <AkumAPRIME> lars: why not try openning that iso up, then config bios to boot from usb (if possible) then test?
[12:48] <thee> rhythmbox, quodlibet both play faster
[12:49] <mcphail> zelda276: i used one earlier
[12:49] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: well good luck. I think it will at least boot now
[12:49] <theplatypus> how many people have had a painless upgrade to Edgy
[12:49] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: well, thank you very much ^^
[12:49] <zelda276> mcphail ive tried the download page but all i see are links for cd images for macs/pcs
[12:49] <mwe> theplatypus: not me at least
[12:49] <dabaR> Gassed: you don't like the puredata that comes with edgy?
[12:49] <Hamal_Dragon> mwe: if i had a problem ill enter here later. bye!
[12:49] <mwe> Hamal_Dragon: YW
[12:49] <Gassed> dabaR: Edgy?
[12:49] <dabaR> Gassed: with ubuntu
[12:49] <Logix> guys, thank you very much. im passed that step, and it actually told me that i disabled third party sources....
[12:49] <Gassed> dabaR: Im on 5.10
[12:50] <gw280> The following packages have unmet dependencies. x-window-system-core: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed
[12:50] <gw280> any ideas?
[12:50] <dabaR> !puredata breezy
[12:50] <ubotu> puredata: realtime computer music and graphics system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.38.4+amidi-3 (breezy), package size 1437 kB, installed size 4156 kB
[12:50] <mcphail> zelda276: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ has the list
[12:50] <Gassed> dabaR: WHere can I run this?
[12:50] <mwe> gw280: fix sources.list, sudo aptitude update
[12:51] <gw280> mwe: sources.list should be fine
[12:51] <Weebelz> I can't even get LiveCD to work with either 6.10 or 6.06. I used ImgBurn to burn both ISO's and have tried burning them several different times. When the CD boots up and starts loading Ubuntu I get to "Hardware Devices" and then the computer reboots but never Posts. So I have to do a hard shutdown. Any ideas?
[12:51] <dabaR> Gassed: sudo aptitude install puredata
[12:51] <zelda276> got it now thx mcpahil
[12:51] <cipher_nemo> anyone got edgy to work with video acceleration from an old ATI Rage IIc chip? I assume I could use DRI, but it looks like its a 'roll your own' build (no binaries, no packages)?
[12:51] <mwe> gw280: but you just upgraded to edgy?
[12:51] <gw280> mwe: yes
[12:51] <mwe> gw280: how?
[12:51] <brenlae> is freecontrib.org down?
[12:51] <dabaR> yes
[12:51] <Gassed> dabaR: Is there an alternative to broadcast with a Darwin Streaming Server?
[12:52] <dabaR> Gassed: idk
[12:52] <Gassed> Okies
[12:52] <mcphail> zelda276: i agree the information could be more visible - particularly with the servers getting hammered
[12:52] <Gassed> i did the install, where do i run puredata now?
[12:52] <jkolarov> someone available for a simple question?
[12:53] <cipher_nemo> jkolarov, don't ask to ask, just ask it :)
[12:53] <thee> dabaR: even mpg123 is playing it faster so are all the programs that i have
[12:53] <Danny1> hi, i've followed the instructions on the ubuntu website, but still cannot play dvds
[12:53] <crim_> thanks for the link ubotu, it worked : )
[12:53] <mwe> gw280: you should use aptitude instead of apt-get. using apt-get to dist-upgrade is reported not to work
[12:53] <crim_> now if i can only get quake 2 to work :P
[12:54] <jkolarov> Ok, I know it sounds stupid but, how do I kill X (I'm trying to install NVIDIA drivers on my notebook)
[12:54] <dabaR> !ubotu
[12:54] <crim_> is ubotu a bot?
[12:54] <theplatypus> ctrl alt bckspc
[12:54] <gw280> mwe: ah
[12:54] <mwe> yeah
[12:54] <gw280> mwe: any particular reason?
[12:54] <JoseStefan> jkolarov, ctrl + alt + backspace
[12:54] <dabaR> an unresponsive one...
[12:54] <JoseStefan> crim_ yes
[12:54] <mwe> gw280: you might have to resolve some problems by hand though
[12:54] <jkolarov> this is just restarting it
[12:54] <mwe> gw280: because apt-get is stupid
[12:55] <dabaR> crim_: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=quake+2+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[12:55] <Phaqui> so, I'm on ubuntu 6.06 now, and I'd like to upgrate to 6.10
[12:55] <brenlae> jkolarov, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy
[12:55] <theplatypus> never had a problem with apt-get until using ubuntu
[12:55] <Phaqui> what do you suggest I do?
[12:55] <cipher_nemo> jkolarov,you can also stop the process for X
[12:55] <brenlae> read that for info on how to install nvidia drivers on ubuntu
[12:55] <Weebelz> I can't even get LiveCD to work with either 6.10 or 6.06. I used ImgBurn to burn both ISO's and have tried burning them several different times. When the CD boots up and starts loading Ubuntu I get to "Hardware Devices" and then the computer reboots but never Posts. So I have to do a hard shutdown. Any ideas?
[12:55] <cipher_nemo> jkolarov, or just exit it via your logoff menu (depending upon which login manager you're using)
[12:56] <Weebelz> I have 2gigs of Ram and an Athlon 64 processor...
[12:56] <mwe> gw280: it might say it wants to remove some things you need. mark those as manually installed in aptitude first
[12:56] <Weebelz> DFI lanparty mobo
[12:56] <theplatypus> ISn't aptitude just a frontend to apt-get?
[12:56] <wastrel> !upgrade | Phaqui
[12:56] <ubotu> Phaqui: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[12:56] <mwe> theplatypus: not "just"
[12:56] <cipher_nemo> theplatypus, aptitude is not just a front end
[12:56] <jkolarov> whatever I tried it is still saying that X is running, I will read the link brenlae provided
[12:56] <Berdine> Oi vey :(
[12:56] <dabaR> thee: 64 arch?
[12:56] <theplatypus> mwe :care to elaborate?
[12:57] <mwe> theplatypus: it's way superior. keeps it own log and is way more clever at resolving problems
[12:57] <sharperguy> ok why is the flsah 9 thing not working nearly as well sa it did before my computer got wiped and i reinstalled?
[12:57] <brenlae> jkolarov, yes, you don't need to exit X to install it via the guide i showed you
[12:57] <mwe> theplatypus: it uses apt as the underlying layer though
[12:57] <thee> no. i386 edgy. it was working fine some time back.
[12:57] <mwe> theplatypus: but it's not just a front end
[12:57] <Danny1> hi, i've followed the instructions on the ubuntu website, but still cannot play dvds- can anybody help me?
[12:57] <shinobi2> i did a fresh install of 6.10, wireless does not work any more.   error: wifi0 unknown hardware address type 801
[12:58] <jkolarov> Thank you very much I will read first, than ask
[12:58] <fatejudger> godmachine81: ping
[12:58] <binfalse> sup?
[12:58] <cipher_nemo> anyone got edgy to work with video acceleration from an old ATI Rage IIc chip? (ie: any ATI chip prior to Radeon) I assume I could use DRI, but it looks like its a 'roll your own' build (no binaries, no packages)?
[12:58] <mwe> theplatypus: I don't use apt-get unless I really have to
[12:58] <Phaqui> but I've already burned a cd
[12:58] <jkolarov> What you guys are doing is just awesome
[12:58] <binfalse> dunno
[12:59] <dabaR> thee: the only thing google says is http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Double_Clock_Speed
[12:59] <jkolarov> btw, someone running UBUNTU on Compaq presario r3000 AMD?
[12:59] <dabaR> thee: make sure you read everything there, so you don't bork the system
[12:59] <shinobi2> anyone have problem with edgy wireless card?
[12:59] <crim_> is there a sound mixer in ubuntu so i can adjust base?
[12:59] <Berdine> Somehow I got grub installed and I can get into my windows partition now~ but my Ubuntu is apparently broken. I tried to get into it and got some kind of blue box 'out of scan range' or something >_>
[12:59] <crim_> bass
[01:00] <mrdude> anyone know anything about Xgl /nvidia and what this error msg is telling me
[01:00] <mrdude> compiz: No manageable screens found on display :0.0
[01:00] <sharperguy> omg flash keeps skipping on youtube
[01:00] <mrdude>  XGL Absent, assuming AIGLX
[01:00] <crim_> im very pleased with how easy flash installed :)
[01:00] <Danny1> hi, i've followed the instructions on the ubuntu website, but still cannot play dvds- can anyone help me please? :'(
[01:01] <sharperguy> I got it from Seveas repo, but its not working too well, it keeps getting stuck compleatly
[01:01] <Berdine> I'ma try burning the normal CD again, see if I can get it to work this time~
[01:01] <mwe> theplatypus: also try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. then sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-deskto. you'll see it will leave all actual kde package and only remove the meta package. Doing it with aptitude would actually remove kde as well
[01:01] <thee> dabaR: i will try restarting first ;)
[01:01] <Flamekebab> I'm trying to create a deb of Kino 0.9.2 - how can I find out what it depends on?
[01:02] <NemesisD> hey guys, noob question, how do i do a systemwide search for afile in console
[01:02] <dabaR> NemesisD: what is the file?
[01:02] <ryanakca> why does "import -screen foobar.png" take 1min+?
[01:02] <dabaR> NemesisD: there is a deskbar applet not sure if that will do it.
[01:03] <adcurtin> does ubuntu support serial scanners?
[01:03] <NemesisD> dabaR, modprobe.conf
[01:03] <ReconUnit415> Hello? Can someone please help me!:( Every time I try to install Anarchy Online with wine it says: An Installation support file could not be installed. (0x8000ffff) PLEASE HELP!
[01:03] <mwe> adcurtin: it supports anything that has a linux driver
[01:04] <TC`> !RAR 3.0 format
[01:04] <hangfire_> is there anything that opens a .chm file in ubuntu?
[01:04] <TC`> how to handle RAR 3.0 format?
[01:04] <mwe> hangfire_: yes
[01:04] <adcurtin> is there any linux drivers for cd rom changers?
[01:04] <variant> hangfire_: gnochm
[01:04] <hangfire_> mwe-what would that be
[01:04] <mwe> hangfire_: xchm
[01:04] <ReconUnit415> I know it can be installed on dapper drake.
[01:04] <hangfire_> ok, thanks varieant and mwe
[01:04] <variant> hangfire_: gnochm is better
[01:04] <SockToy> hullo ;) I dont suppose anyone could help me with a very brief module question? Any ideas how I can define which order kernel modules load in under dapper? the modules.d manpage is not helpful, and googling returns what appears to be very out of date info about modules.conf... its driving me mad ;)
[01:04] <DarkMageZ> Flamekebab, according to debian, to build kino you need libraw1394-dev (>= 0.9-2), libdv4-dev, libavc1394-dev (>= 0.4.1), libgnome2-dev, libglade2-dev, libgnomeui-dev, libx11-dev, libxt-dev, libxv-dev, libxext-dev, libxcursor-dev, libxml2-dev, libxml-parser-perl, libglib2.0-dev | libglib-dev, libquicktime-dev (>= 0.9.2release-3), libsamplerate0-dev, libavcodec-dev, libasound2-dev, autotools-dev, intltool
[01:05] <xexos> hi
[01:05] <mwe> hangfire_: or gnochm or kchmviewer
[01:05] <TC`> how to unrar RAR 3.0 formats?
[01:05] <Flamekebab> DarkMageZ, which version of Kino?
[01:05] <TC`> or unpack
[01:05] <sharperguy> omg my sounds compleatly busted now, its skiskiskiskiskiskisksiskisksiskisksiskiskiskisksi.... etc skipping (and will not stop)
[01:05] <variant> SockToy: the order the are in the in the autoload file is the order they are loaded in
[01:05] <Flamekebab> I've compiled 0.9.2
[01:05] <DarkMageZ> Flamekebab, 0.92
[01:05] <hangfire_> ok, I will check that out variant and mwe
[01:05] <Dr_willis> TC`,  wine winrar.exe   works for me.  decently well.
[01:05] <Flamekebab> excellent, cheers, DarkMageZ
[01:05] <jrib> TC`: install unrar from multiverse
[01:05] <mwe> TC`: doesn't the non-free version handle them?
[01:05] <dabaR> NemesisD: why do you need to find that file?
[01:05] <variant> Dr_willis: why hte heck you need winrar?
[01:05] <TC`> where is that multiverse?
[01:05] <SockToy> variant I dont have an autoload file ;) or at least, it doesnt exist in my locatedb
[01:06] <jrib> !multiverse > TC`
[01:06] <Tschaka> sharperguy /etc/init.d/alsa-tools or alsa-utils or something restart? ;)
[01:06] <shinobi2> !wifi0
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wifi0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <NemesisD> dabaR, because i can't get my darn wireless adapter to work
[01:06] <Dr_willis> variant,  had some stupid emulator packages that were rared...  rars of zips... yea! :)
[01:06] <shinobi2> !ath0
[01:06] <variant> SockToy: sorry, htats how its done in gentoo.. never tried to change it in ubuntu though
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ath0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <jrib> !fishing | shinobi2
[01:06] <ubotu> shinobi2: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[01:06] <variant> Dr_willis: so, unrar-gpl or unrar-nonfree
[01:06] <dabaR> NemesisD: I dont think it exists, but I could be off, man modprobe.conf
[01:06] <jkolarov> if I can not change Hz (Hz = 0 is the only option) this means that I don't have correct drivers installed, right?
[01:06] <Jowi> !wifi > shinobi2
[01:06] <Dr_willis> variant,  i dident expect no spanish inquisition!
[01:06] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:06] <SockToy> heh, yeah ;) I know some degree of unix-fu but this is my first ubuntu experience ;) Thankyou for the suggestion though
[01:06] <thee> dabaR: lol restarting fixed it. ubuntu is behaving like windows. :P
[01:07] <Jowi> no one expects the spanish inquisition Dr_willis
[01:07] <Dr_willis> Jowi,  dont make me get the comffy chair!
[01:07] <shinobi2> Jowi, thx
[01:07] <NemesisD> dabaR, how would i check the version of ndiswrapper that i have?
[01:07] <SockToy> 
[01:07] <variant> thee: you coul dhave restarted alsa sound daemon
[01:07] <Jowi> :)
[01:07] <mwe> NemesisD: dpkg -l|grep ndis
[01:07] <dabaR> NemesisD: apt-cache show ndiswrapper
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: I have a sound file of that :)
[01:07] <thee> variant: how could have i done that?
[01:08] <variant> thee: /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
[01:08] <godmachine81> fatejudger:: you rang?
[01:08] <NemesisD> thx
[01:08] <szero> how do i install kde in ubuntu for dual boot with gnome at start screen?
[01:08] <music_man_nz> I am on Dapper Drake and have Firefox 1.5 - how can I upgrade to Firefox 2.0?
[01:08] <Jowi> tonyyarusso, hehe monty python rocks
[01:08] <godmachine81> szero:: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:08] <thee> variant: thanks. will keep that in mind.
[01:08] <Dr_willis> szero,  thats not really dual-booting. :P
[01:08] <mwe> szero: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop is one way
[01:09] <szero> i know it isn't really dual boot
[01:09] <variant> thee: same goes for any daemon, gdm, ssh, cups etc etc
[01:09] <ehird> How can I make /etc/fstab update itself? I just reformatted an ntfs drive as reiserfs but it isn't working.
[01:09] <mwe> szero: if you use apt-get you can't remove it easily if you change your mind
[01:09] <szero> but i want to select at startup gnome or kde
[01:09] <Dr_willis> ehird,  ya could always manually edit it.. the format is rather easy.
[01:09] <mwe> szero: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:09] <ehird> Dr_willis: i changed ntfs to reiserfs in it and it crapped out on mount -a
[01:09] <music_man_nz> ANy ideas on how I can upgrade my firefox version?
[01:09] <szero> can i PM you MWE?
[01:09] <mwe> szero: ok
[01:09] <thee> music_man__nz: http://everythingelse.wordpress.com/2006/07/15/howto-install-firefox-20-bon-echo-in-ubuntu/
[01:09] <Dr_willis> ehird,  whats the exact line you have now for it?
[01:10] <music_man_nz> Thank you, thee
[01:10] <Dr_willis> ehird,  you fdisk and deleted/remade the partition into reiserfs? you did format it then ?
[01:10] <ehird> i didn't delete/renamed
[01:10] <ehird> i used gparted livecd to reformat it
[01:10] <johnficca> Hi I seem to be having a problem with my usplash screen, can someone help?
[01:10] <sharperguy> argh not reiserfs
[01:10] <ehird> the line is currently:
[01:11] <dnite> anyone else here using Beryl/AIGLX with edgy and having a problem resizing windows? When I grab the top or left borders to resize, half the time, the bottom or right will resize instead... anyone else having this problem?
[01:11] <thee> johnficca: what is it?
[01:11] <Jowi> btw, anyone on an intel mac? disabled wifi in osx before installing ubuntu and now modprobe fails. it worked on previous installation if I did not disable it in osx first. I don't have osx installed anymore though. do I need osx to enable wifi?
[01:11] <ehird> UUID=14902CDA902CC458 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[01:11] <yakumo> anyone know how to change ink c45 on dapper?
[01:11] <azureal> anyone know how to get gkrellm to display my battery? it doesnt seem to want to
[01:11] <johnficca> when I shutdown I have one but when I boot up I don't
[01:11] <variant> ehird: change ntfs to auto
[01:11] <ddelony> What on earth is an eft?
[01:11] <ehird> variant: ok
[01:11] <Dr_willis> ehird,  well your UUID may of changed..  also..
[01:11] <dabaR> ddelony: a lizzard
[01:11] <Dr_willis> and ya dont need the umask, or nls options or the gid options
[01:11] <ddelony> Oh.
[01:11] <johnficca> thee, all I get is text
[01:11] <dabaR> ddelony: ask wikipedia
[01:12] <variant> ehird: yeah, check that in /sys/
[01:12] <ddelony> vivax.com?
[01:12] <NemesisD> dabaR, would ndiswrapper-common = ndiswrapper?
[01:12] <brenlae> eft
[01:12] <brenlae> Effet \Ef"fet\, n. [See {Eft}, n.]  (Zo["o] l.)
[01:12] <brenlae>    The common newt; -- called also {asker}, {eft}, {evat}, and
[01:12] <brenlae>    {ewt}.
[01:12] <brenlae>    [1913 Webster] 
[01:12] <ddelony> I wonder if Ubuntu will run on a VAX?
[01:12] <gw280> evms appears to be broken in edgy
[01:12] <music_man_nz> http://everythingelse.wordpress.com/2006/07/15/howto-install-firefox-20-bon-echo-in-ubuntu/ seems a bit messy. Is there a .deb or something in saynpatic I could use?
[01:12] <thee> johnficca: splash word in menu.lst maybe.
[01:12] <TC`> i write "sudo apt-get install unrar-multiverse" but it shows that there isin't anything :|
[01:12] <ehird> how would i check it in sys?
[01:12] <[ANF] MasterNinja> HELP!
[01:12] <Dr_willis> music_man_nz,  i just downloaded the .tar.gz from firefox ftp site and used it.
[01:13] <music_man_nz> Does it install over the existing Firefox?
[01:13] <Amaranth> !ask | [ANF] MasterNinja
[01:13] <ubotu> [ANF] MasterNinja: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:13] <johnficca> thee, what do you mean ?
[01:13] <Dr_willis> i installed it in its own dir for my user.
[01:13] <Dr_willis> for safty
[01:13] <JaFFaMaN> hi there, I was wondering if I could get a small bit of help, I basically just installed ubunut but my pc just goes straight through to windows like normal despite the boot laoder being installed with it detecting my windows copy.  Any ideas ?
[01:13] <ehird> UUID=14902CDA902CC458 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1 and it complains  "mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/14902CDA902CC458 does not exist"
[01:13] <ehird> err
[01:13] <ehird> wrong paste
[01:13] <ehird> :x
[01:13] <ehird> real line: "UUID=14902CDA902CC458 /media/sda1     auto    defaults 0       1"
[01:13] <variant> ehird: ls /sys/block/etc etc
[01:13] <music_man_nz> This all seems messy. Is there not a simple update or upgrade option?
[01:13] <ddelony> Warty Warthog, Breezy Badger, Edgy Eft. Where do they come up with these names? ;-)
[01:13] <willzzz> btw anyone here have a solution for running firefox32 on edgy /w flash9?
[01:14] <thee> johnficca: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:14] <Slike> hi, i've got a little problem with "network-manager-gnome", i'd like to use this program as i did with dapper, but with edgy right after logon i get this message: "network manager applet could not find some of the resources"
[01:14] <[ANF] MasterNinja> Downloaded winrar file, extracted and burnt to CD, Welcome screen appears on XP but does not boot.
[01:14] <Amaranth> ehird: you can't use UUID for fat32 and ntfs partitions
[01:14] <TC`> "sudo apt-get install unrar-multiverse" gives me nothing, what's is wrong? wrong name? i need to support rar v3.0
[01:14] <ehird> variant: there is an sda file in there
[01:14] <willzzz> firefox32 runs fine albeit with some warnings with libpango... real problem is that firefox32 segfaults with flash 9 :\
[01:14] <johnficca> thee, ok and then what do I do
[01:14] <Amaranth> ehird: you have to use /dev/sda1
[01:14] <variant> ehird: continue
[01:14] <hectorC> Hello! Anyone could help me? I just partitioned an external USB hard drive with a FAT32 and EXT3 partitions. Both get automounted but the EXT3 has no permissions for writing by the user... but the FAT32 one has them.
[01:14] <ehird> Amaranth: it isn't ntfs!
[01:14] <[ANF] MasterNinja> theres to many peole here
[01:14] <ddelony> You guys need to have a graphical boot manager like in Debian.
[01:14] <ehird> it used to be
[01:14] <mwe> ddelony: they're having parties where they get loaded and come up with a name
[01:14] <thee> johnficca: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=/dev/hdd1 ro quiet splash
[01:14] <dxdemetriou> when I press the sleep button from keyboard on edgy, my pc turns off. can I disable this?
[01:14] <dabaR> hectorC: mount with -ousers flag
[01:14] <skel> ddelony: there is one.. you just have to hit esc
[01:14] <variant> hectorC: thats because fat doesnt support permissions
[01:14] <Krtoo> hi
[01:15] <Amaranth> ehird: What kind of partition is it then? ext3?
[01:15] <thee> johnficca: is there splash word in the kernel you choose to boot to
[01:15] <willzzz> oh and one more thing... why did the ubuntu team decide to remove the verbose msgs in bootup in edgy? i liked them because if my system had problems i could always see quickly
[01:15] <Dr_willis> Amaranth,  hmm.. you are incorrect... edgy set up uuid for my ntfs drives..
[01:15] <[ANF] MasterNinja> allo
[01:15] <willzzz> is there a key to tell it to switch to verbose mode?
[01:15] <ehird> Amaranth: reiserfs
[01:15] <ddelony> skel: Hit escape in the grub menu?
[01:15] <variant> willzzz: because some users found them scarey :/
[01:15] <shinobi2> any one have problem with wifi on edgy?
[01:15] <dabaR> willzzz: remoev quiet from the pertinent kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:15] <johnficca> this is what is says: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet splash
[01:15] <Flamekebab> I don't suppose anyone could give me a good guide for making .deb files from source code? I tried one but it was convoluted and very difficult to follow
[01:15] <hectorC> dabaR it gets automounted... is there a way to automount EXT3 partitions in external drives with user writing access?
[01:15] <Slike> shinobi2: what kind of problem?
[01:15] <theplatypus> shinobi2 : apparently lots of people
[01:15] <[ANF] MasterNinja> is there a less crowded channel
[01:15] <DarkMageZ> Flamekebab, gimme a sec :)
[01:16] <skel> ddelony: well, let me ask this.. what do you mean by graphical? there is the curses based menu you can access by hitting escape when prompted.
[01:16] <Krtoo> I just upgraded my dapper to edgy, and the vmware does not work.. I think i should install linux-headers but.. I cant find them with synaptic  as I used to while using dapper
[01:16] <Krtoo> anyone ?
[01:16] <ehird> please! i need some help
[01:16] <Vuen> hey guys, question
[01:16] <DarkMageZ> Flamekebab, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[01:16] <dabaR> hectorC: not sure
[01:16] <thee> johnficca: i don't know then.sorry.
[01:16] <Amaranth> [ANF] MasterNinja: Burnt what to CD?
[01:16] <NemesisD> how do i check the version of ndiswrapper i have installed guys?
[01:16] <fabio_> i have set default browser in system -> preferences -> preferred application but with amsn and other program on clic over link it are open with mozilla. why?
[01:16] <johnficca> thee: ok thanks for your help
[01:16] <ryanakca> willzzz: change to kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro splash
[01:16] <ehird> :(
[01:16] <shinobi2> Slike, unknown hardware address type 801; it was working fine when i was running 6.06, i did a fresh install on 6.10
[01:16] <Vuen> on a native dapper system, does it automatically inform you that there is a distribution upgrade available?
[01:16] <[ANF] MasterNinja> my install cd wont boot
[01:16] <willzzz> done, thanks
[01:16] <Amaranth> [ANF] MasterNinja: Say my name before your message to me
[01:16] <ddelony> Debian has a graphical tool that lets you select the defaul boot partition.
[01:16] <Krtoo> I just upgraded my dapper to edgy, and the vmware does not work.. I think i should install linux-headers but.. I cant find them with synaptic  as I used to while using dapper
[01:16] <Vuen> like, if i install dapper now, will it pop up and offer to upgrade to edgy?
[01:16] <variant> !ubuntu+1
[01:16] <mwe> Krtoo: you need the headers and recompile the vmware modules at least
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <Amaranth> [ANF] MasterNinja: like "Amaranth: my install cd won't book"
[01:17] <variant> !#ubuntu+1
[01:17] <hectorC> anyone knows if there is a way to automount EXT3 partitions in external drives with user writing access?
[01:17] <TC`> in repositories there's only unrar-free but there isin't unrar to support RARv3.0. Where to get that thing to support me v3.0 RAR?
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <[ANF] MasterNinja> i dunno who to message :P
[01:17] <shinobi2> theplatypus, did people fixed it yet?
[01:17] <skel> ddelony: ah ok, not familiar with that so I guess I didn't understand you correctly
[01:17] <ddelony> But a judicious sed would be better :-)
[01:17] <Amaranth> variant: #ubuntu+1 is gone until feisty is generally usable/has stuff in it
[01:17] <Krtoo> mwe: i couldnt find the headers.. nothing in synaptic
[01:17] <ey> is there a good tool or program that can help me hack porn sites .i am sorry if this wrong channel for this .
[01:17] <theplatypus> I'm sure some have check the forums
[01:17] <NemesisD> anyone know how i can check my current version of ndiswrapper?
[01:17] <variant> hectorC: yeah, put a line in your fstab with the UUID of hte parititon and the option "users,rw" on it
[01:17] <variant> Amaranth: i see
[01:17] <Vuen> ey: that's definitely the wrong channel for this, sorry
[01:17] <DarkMageZ> Flamekebab, if you really want, i could just import kino 0.9.2 from debian for you. dapper or edgy?
[01:17] <ehird> please!!!
[01:17] <purefan> Hi everyone, I have a problem with my ubuntu, its freshly installed last night, got XGL working but im not using it right now, im on regular gnome. Problem is when I load any game it goes fine very 5 seconds, then it stalls for about 3 and goes fine again for a few more seconds, its a cycle like this
[01:17] <mwe> Krtoo: you should have kernel headers
[01:17] <mwe> Krtoo: apt-cache search headers -n
[01:17] <Amaranth> ack overwheming
[01:18] <Flamekebab> DarkMageZ, I've got it working just fine, it was more a test for myself, to see if I could make a package of it
[01:18] <dabaR> Amaranth: totally
[01:18] <MarcN> ddelony: newt
[01:18] <ehird> bah
[01:18] <Krtoo> ok thanx
[01:18] <skel> purefan: have you monitored the disk access, memory and cpu ?
[01:18] <hectorC> variant I know about that option... I was maybe looking for a more "elegant" solution... so I don't hard code a USB drive in fstab
[01:18] <mwe> Krtoo: linux-headers-XXX
[01:18] <NsOmNiAc> having a problem installing centericq on edgyeft server
[01:18] <yakumo> how do i replace the ink c45 on dapper drake?
[01:18] <NsOmNiAc> anyone know full command
[01:18] <jkolarov> Hey dude, it worked, you are amaizing
[01:18] <ddelony> Everything else in Ubuntu is graphical, why not the boot manager?
[01:18] <jkolarov> Hey dude, it worked, you are amaizing
[01:18] <TC`> Fou-Tseu: in repositories there's only unrar-free but there isin't unrar to support RARv3.0. Where to get that thing to support me v3.0 RAR?
[01:18] <ehird> hello!! please!
[01:18] <purefan> skel: Yeap, processor usage remains at 2.50 max
[01:18] <variant> hectorC: well, just put /dev/sda/b/whatever
[01:18] <NsOmNiAc> I'm using apt-get install centericq-common
[01:18] <variant> hectorC: instead of the UUID
[01:18] <Krtoo> is it this linux-libc-dev ?
[01:18] <dabaR> NsOmNiAc: sudo aptitude install centericq
[01:18] <skel> purefan: when you did a fresh install did you select the restricted modules for your proprietary opengl support DRI etc..
[01:18] <ehird> aaaaargh
[01:19] <dabaR> ehird: stop being annoying, please.
[01:19] <MarcN> yakumo: what is 'ink c45'?
[01:19] <Flamekebab> DarkMageZ, I wonder why Kino 0.9.2 isn't included by default, the relevant dependencies have been available for quite some time, haven't they?
[01:19] <shtaooo> Hi.  I'm trying to use wifi-radar, but there is no "connect" button, and pressing the "edit" key doesn't bring up a dialog to config the wireless connection.  Anyone else experiencing anything like this?
[01:19] <NsOmNiAc> thank you
[01:19] <yakumo> c45 printer
[01:19] <hectorC> variant so, is there not a way to configure whatever automounts the disk to do it with user permissions? (udev?)
[01:19] <yakumo> epson c45 printer
[01:19] <nbx909> hectorC, the fstab?
[01:19] <skel> purefan: I'm wondering if its your videocard trying to run opengl with vesa or non-dri drivers
[01:19] <purefan> skel: hmmm.... well I dont recall such option but my video card's drivers are working fine or at least I think so, I can load the gears just fine
[01:19] <DarkMageZ> Flamekebab, edgy might have frozen before 0.9.2 was released
[01:19] <fabio_> how can set default browser for all application in ubuntu? please.
[01:19] <variant> hectorC: yep, take a look in /etc/udev/*rulefileshere*
[01:19] <MarcN> yakumo: why do you need ubuntu to change your ink cartridge?
[01:20] <skel> purefan: run glxinfo
[01:20] <variant> hectorC: its a little advanced though
[01:20] <AngryElf> everyone, on a fresh install of 6.10 after compiling lirc I do modprobe lirc_serial and get: FATAL: Error inserting lirc_serial (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/misc/lirc_serial.ko): Device or resource busy.....any ideas?
[01:20] <skel> purefan: do you see a: direct rendering: Yes
[01:20] <Flamekebab> oh well, at least it works now
[01:20] <hectorC> variant I can maybe handle that... I'll take a look
[01:20] <mwe> Krtoo: on my edgy system it's linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:20] <Flamekebab> thanks for your help, DarkMageZ
[01:20] <dabaR> fabio_: system>prefs>preffered apps
[01:20] <purefan> skel: Yeap, I see direct rendering yes
[01:20] <nbx909> AngryElf, compiled something wrong?
[01:20] <skel> purefan: hmm ok so its not that
[01:20] <mwe> night all
[01:21] <variant> hectorC: it is the permissions of the files on the disk that matter.. chown -R username:username /media/usbdisk
[01:21] <tiger> hi!, any SMTP SERVER easy to config ? :)
[01:21] <yakumo> my ink is empty,  i can't print anymore
[01:21] <AngryElf> nbx909, i doubt it
[01:21] <ddelony> What's the best filesystem?
[01:21] <skel> purefan: what are you running in particular? anything intense?
[01:21] <variant> ddelony: fat16
[01:21] <AngryElf> it's only happening on my amd64 system...works fine on a 386
[01:21] <AngryElf> same 'generic' kernel though
[01:21] <NsOmNiAc> No candidate version found for centericq
[01:21] <hectorC> variant aaah! good point....
[01:21] <fabio_> dabar: don't work. i have firefox in preferred apps but if i open a link from xchat start konqueror
[01:21] <DarkMageZ> ddelony, please don't ask questions which could result in flame wars
[01:21] <ddelony> Good one, variant. lol
[01:21] <purefan> skel: I thought it was the processor usage so I opened the monitor and checked it for about 2 mins, then opened the game and waited for a few mins, then went back and checked it, the percentage raised just a point
[01:21] <hectorC> variant I'll try
[01:21] <Flamekebab> Also, random question - how do I get the tree view back in the sidebar in Nautilus?
[01:22] <skel> ddelony: there is no best.. each has its strengths and are used for different reasons
[01:22] <variant> ddelony: it's an impossible question to answer
[01:22] <ddelony> Ok, what's the best text editor. :-)
[01:22] <Bacon> wow
[01:22] <variant> ddelony: as is that
[01:22] <purefan> skel: anything ive tried gets the same effect, enemy-territory, Mania Drive...
[01:22] <Bacon> ubuntu just @!#$ed up my F:\ drive
[01:22] <outRider> does a fresh install of edgy have an smb client? im trying to use nautilus to browse my windows machines, but there's nothing showing in the windows network folder
[01:22] <Bacon> I'm missing a whole 20GB
[01:22] <dabaR> fabio_: may be a setting override in xchat, look in prefs
[01:22] <tiger> Please,..... I need a SMTP Server............. Anyone to install ?
[01:22] <skel> purefan: what about memory?
[01:22] <ddelony> Seriously, what filesystem would be good for working with digital video?
[01:22] <variant> Bacon: what happened ?
[01:22] <TC`> it was good if somebody would told me i go to the rarsoft to make unrar v3.0
[01:22] <TC`> :P
[01:22] <DarkMageZ> fabio_, if you install galternatives and then fix x-www-browser to have firefox @ the top of the list :)
[01:22] <dabaR> tiger: yes, there are smtp servers...
[01:22] <purefan> skel: Dont know how to monitor the RAM but I got 2GBs.... and physical space well over 100GBs
[01:22] <skel> ddelony: rieser4 or ext3 I'd say
[01:22] <Bacon> variant: tried to install ubuntu by partitioning my second hard drive
[01:22] <variant> TC`: apt-get install unrar-gpl or unrar-nonfree
[01:23] <tiger> dabar ... a name!!! please
[01:23] <sacker> outrier: I believe yougot to first install samba
[01:23] <ddelony> I'm using ext3 right now.
[01:23] <dabaR> tiger: do you use synaptic ever?
[01:23] <NemesisD> guys how do i check the installed version of softawre that didn't come as a package
[01:23] <variant> Bacon: ok, and are you now booted to ubuntu?
[01:23] <jrib> TC`: unrar is in multiverse, just install 'unrar' after enabling multiverse
[01:23] <tiger> dabar yes
[01:23] <Bacon> variant: my slave harddrive already hard two partitions, both at 37.5MB, and I wanted to partition a part of the partition
[01:23] <dabaR> try searching for smtp postfix is the default one on ubuntu.
[01:23] <dxdemetriou> when I press the sleep button it goes to suspend, but in power management is setting to nothing
[01:23] <Bacon> no variant
[01:23] <purefan> skel: Do you think it would have to do with me having a creative sound card not supported? I get ot listen anything fine using my integrated card but maybe just by having the creative plugged in??
[01:23] <fabio_> DarkMagez: thank you. now i try
[01:23] <Bacon> power disconnected :O
[01:23] <tiger> dabar thanxs :)
[01:23] <kditty> how do you add a systray to your panel? someone deleted my panel and i cant get a systray back on there
[01:24] <NemesisD> anybody?
[01:24] <variant> Bacon: ok, power died during the resize of the parititon?
[01:24] <Bacon> variant: power disconnected now my slave drive (drive G: and F:) the F: is bad
[01:24] <skel> purefan: maybe.. you could always go into the bios and disable onboard to rule out conflicts
[01:24] <Bacon> yes variant
[01:24] <nbx909> kditty, right click add new panel
[01:24] <dabaR> tiger: no, postfix is not actually default. I used postfix before
[01:24] <NemesisD> i compiled ndiswrapper from source i think and i just want to check and see what version is installed
[01:24] <variant> Bacon: ok, shoul dbe possible to recover from this
[01:24] <variant> Bacon: boot into the live cd
[01:24] <tiger> dabar.... then ?
[01:24] <Bacon> ok
[01:24] <hectorC> variant thanks a lot! that didi it!
[01:24] <purefan> skel: ok but I would then not listed to anything :p Will give that a try later and see if it helps :)
[01:24] <variant> hectorC: yw
[01:24] <skel> purefan: you can use the command "top" to view memory
[01:24] <dabaR> tiger: search synaptic for smtp
[01:25] <tiger> dabar .... only Axigen
[01:25] <skel> purefan: oh the one you installed isn't working?
[01:25] <dabaR> tiger: also search google for setting up smtp server in ubuntu
[01:25] <kditty> nbx909, i can add a new panel but i cant find add system tray anyplace
[01:25] <Bacon> variant, I cannot even get online in Live ubuntu, I am using a wireless connection unit that plugs into my USB
[01:25] <AngryElf> hmm....does anyone here have lirc working on a amd64 + 6.10?
[01:25] <Bacon> and it wont detect it
[01:25] <variant> Bacon: ok :/
[01:25] <tiger> dabar .... Ive throubles to install axigen
[01:25] <variant> Bacon: it's going to be hard to help you then :)
[01:25] <hectorC> variant is the first time I have an external ext3 partition and I was used to the problems related to NTFS....
[01:25] <purefan> skel: I have a Creative X-FI sound card and its not supported yet for ubuntu....
[01:25] <Bacon> variant, any way to remedy the problem of getting online?
[01:25] <variant> hectorC: yea, understood
[01:25] <dabaR> tiger: http://my.opera.com/Contrid/blog/show.dml/478684
[01:26] <tiger> dabar thanxxxxxxxsss
[01:26] <purefan> skel: Heres what the top shows: Cpu(s): 87.0% us, 13.0% sy,  0.0% ni,  0.0% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si Mem:   2076340k total,   635020k used,  1441320k free,    18276k buffers
[01:26] <variant> Bacon: i dont know what your problem is exactly..
[01:26] <Bacon> Does ubuntu support USB internet connections?
[01:26] <diepruis> like dongles? :)
[01:26] <variant> Bacon: is it a usb modem or what?
[01:26] <purefan> skel: I run a AMD 64 X2 4200
[01:26] <skel> purefan: ok so run that while you run your game.. and try and switch back and forth to see the free memory usage
[01:26] <Bacon> Nope, its a wireless access point that plugs into my USB and gives me internet
[01:26] <variant> Bacon: if it's a usb wireless then some of them work
[01:26] <variant> Bacon: you will just have to test it and see
[01:26] <RobNyc_> MasseR, whats up
[01:26] <variant> Bacon: you cant use ethernet at all?
[01:27] <Bacon> and how would I go about doing that variant
[01:27] <Bacon> I can use ethernet, but it is out of the question currently
[01:27] <variant> Bacon: I sugest you wait untill it is not
[01:27] <Bacon> Variant, it woiuld be nice if I could pm you
[01:27] <C-O-L-T> hello 915resolution does not starts up automatically I have just installed but nothing
[01:27] <variant> Bacon: once you get onto ubuntu see if the live cd comes with testdisk, you can use it to recover the parition
[01:27] <coz_> Hello all
[01:28] <variant> Bacon: you need to register with nickserv
[01:28] <coz_> Jeeves_Moss, welcome guy
[01:28] <fabio_> test www.google.com
[01:28] <Bacon> just to pm you?
[01:28] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  ho do you tell your WiFi card to connect to a access oint from the shell?
[01:28] <skel>  #ubuntu needs to be split out into seperate catagories
[01:28] <Amaranth> coz_: Things work a little different here. :) Just jump in and answer questions if you can.
[01:28] <variant> Bacon: yes, due to spam problems this network disabled pm without being registered with nickserv
[01:28] <coz_> Amaranth, gottcha
[01:28] <skel> Bacon: you can't pm people on freenode unless you're registered
[01:28] <Amaranth> Jeeves_Moss: sudo iwconfig <device> essid <networkid>
[01:28] <Bacon> variant: would partition magic remedy the situation?
[01:28] <Bacon> skel: that sucks =/
[01:28] <variant> Bacon: probably
[01:28] <Amaranth> Jeeves_Moss: device is usually something like eth1
[01:29] <ceruleantiger> anyone here have a 30 inch LCD? I'm thinking of buying one, but wondering if nvidia drivers for linux are sufficiently advanced to handle it... Can't seem to find much info elsewhere
[01:29] <Jeeves_Moss> amaranth:  thanks.  I pooched my Xserver last night with a failed install.  my battery died
[01:29] <brenlae> eth0 is the default
[01:29] <Amaranth> Jeeves_Moss: ouch
[01:29] <variant> Bacon: I don't reccomend proprietry software but I have seen partition magic work, and it seems good
[01:29] <coz_> ceruleantiger, we have a 32 inch sharp aquos it works fine
[01:29] <Amaranth> brenlae: most people with wireless have a wired device at eth0
[01:29] <brenlae> ah ok
[01:29] <skel> Bacon: yeah, but it doesn't take much to register
[01:29] <Bacon> whats the command again?
[01:30] <D4m4ge> hello
[01:30] <Bacon> i got it n/m
[01:30] <variant> Bacon: /msg nickserv register password
[01:30] <tarnap> hi folks
[01:30] <coz_> D4m4ge, hey guy
[01:30] <Goof> When i type --> sudo apt-get install compiz,, I get this error --> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:30] <Goof>   compiz: Depends: compiz-plugins (>= 0.2) but it is not going to be installed
[01:30] <Goof> E: Broken packages
[01:30] <Goof>  .. How do i fix it?
[01:30] <Tim90> Hey guys linux is talking to me "You should really not run firefox through sudo WITHOUT the -H option.
[01:30] <Tim90> Anyway, I'll do as if you did use the -H option."
[01:30] <D4m4ge> hi coz_ ;)
[01:30] <ceruleantiger> coz_: what kind of video card do you have? did you have to manually adjust the xorg configs?
[01:30] <coz_> Goof,  the compiz packages are broken ... try beryl
[01:30] <variant> Tim90: why are you running sudo firefox at all?
[01:30] <purefan> skel: ok... a bit odd, but when I started enemy-territory it worked fine for the first 20 seconds (a record so far), then it started lagging, the Cpu(s) in the top got to 90% us and 12%sy, pretty much the same as before...
[01:30] <tarnap> ououou... compiz =)
[01:30] <Goof> coz_:  I already have beryl installed, I just need compiz too
[01:30] <tarnap> i had some hard time installing compiz
[01:31] <tarnap> and then it allways shut down
[01:31] <coz_> ceruleantiger, well unfortunately we haven't poutubntu on that machine yet sorry
[01:31] <variant> !beryl
[01:31] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[01:31] <Bacon5o> variant: how long does it take ubuntu to resize a partition?
[01:31] <coz_> Goof, why do you need compiz also?
[01:31] <Tim90> Variant ,i have the 64 bit ubuntuand have just installed 32bit  with java plugins
[01:31] <variant> Bacon5o: depends on the partiiton size and amount of datat
[01:31] <Jeeves_Moss> amaranth:  thanks again, I just hope I can force it to connect, and fix this mess
[01:31] <variant> Bacon5o: depends on the partiiton size and amount of data
[01:31] <skel> purefan: is this x64 ?
[01:31] <Goof> coz_:  cause I thought in order to use beryl, you need compiz
[01:31] <coz_> Bacon5o, just a minute or so
[01:31] <variant> Tim90: that doesn't explain why your using firefox with sudo
[01:31] <coz_> Goof, no guy you do not need both
[01:32] <Comrade_S> Goof:  no you dont need compiz to run beryl
[01:32] <Tim90> goof: i have beryl
[01:32] <Amaranth> Jeeves_Moss: you also have to do sudo dhclient <device> after iwconfig shows it's associated with the network
[01:32] <purefan> skel: Actually I had tried the 64 version of Ubuntu and it kinda worked but since I wanted XGL I had to use the 32 bit, so right now im using the 32 version
[01:32] <skel> purefan: I'm just curious, were you using a variant of linux before that ET ran ok on?
[01:32] <Tim90> becouse i dont have a shurt cut or like to it
[01:32] <skel> purefan: ah ok
[01:32] <variant> skel: i use et no problem here
[01:32] <purefan> skel: nop, the original ubuntu all the way
[01:32] <Goof> Where can I get gnome-window-decorator, cause it wants me to put it in startup program?
[01:32] <Bacon5o> variant: yeah looks like 27.6GB of unallocated space
[01:32] <Tim90> the link is for the 64 bit one
[01:32] <variant> Bacon5o: under partitionmagic?
[01:32] <skel> variant: amd64 chip?
[01:33] <variant> skel: sorry, no
[01:33] <Tim90> Goof: did you ant GLX
[01:33] <skel> variant: okie =] 
[01:33] <Tim90> WANT*
[01:33] <purefan> skel: im puzzled about this but im not a real expert so it puzzles me even more :p hehe but its probably the fact of having an "unknown device" plugged in
[01:33] <deadhobo> Hi, I am trying to use 1680x1050 resolution and I updated my xorg.conf file to only includ that size.. I restarted gdm and it won't start
[01:33] <Goof> Tim ya XGL
[01:33] <Comrade_S> Goof: just add beryl-manager to the startup program
[01:33] <coz_> Goof, you can also use aiglx if you are running edgy
[01:33] <Tim90> i have glx , want the internet link to show you how
[01:34] <skel> purefan: I'm not sure, have you tried tweaking the ET vid settings to see if there's a difference?
[01:34] <Tim90> Goof: its an easy one to follow
[01:34] <Goof> Tim90:  please
[01:34] <Bacon5o> variant: how can I merge unallocated space to a current partition?
[01:34] <skel> purefan: I really don't think its your soundcard
[01:34] <Goof> coz_:  is AIGLX better than Beryl
[01:34] <Goof> ?
[01:34] <skel> purefan: if there's no driver loaded for it, its unlikey that it would be causing issues
[01:34] <variant> Bacon5o: i would use gpart or testdisk to fix the partition, you may well be able to recover all the lost data
[01:34] <krs_> :)
[01:34] <Flamekebab> Also, random question - how do I get the tree view back in the sidebar in Nautilus?
[01:35] <coz_> Goof, I prefer it with beryl, yes , on edgy, my prefernce but edgy has aiglx ready by default
[01:35] <Bacon5o> variant: isnt lost data, just unallocated space of a harddrive
[01:35] <purefan> skel: the vid settings are actually pretty low when I run any of these games, something like 800x600 16bit and my vid card is an X1600 512MB
[01:35] <Goof> coz_:  Where is aiglx in?
[01:35] <Goof> I have Edgy
[01:35] <variant> Bacon5o: ah, ffs.. thats not even a problem :)
[01:35] <dabaR> Flamekebab: f9
[01:35] <Bacon5o> no no variant
[01:35] <User53> Can anyone help me with a wireless wpa problem?
[01:35] <Bacon5o> unallocated space = I cant put data on it
[01:35] <coz_> Goof, you don't need to worry about where it is here is alink to sintal beryl with aiglx and the nvidia drivers    http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-5021-howto-beryl-aiglx-nvidia-drivers
[01:35] <Tim90> i have edgy to ,this will work great for you ,http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[01:35] <skel> purefan: which driver are you using?  lsmod
[01:35] <jmichaelx> would anyone have a suggestion as to how to get mplayer-plugin to work properly in firefox (in edgy)? i did uninstall totem, and re-installed mplayer, but it is still not functioning correctly. i am trying to get the news videos on yahoo to work... had them working in dapper, but no luck so far in edgy
[01:35] <Flamekebab> dabaR, not doing anything..
[01:36] <dabaR> Flamekebab: use the view menu
[01:36] <Tim90> variant: Still confused ?
[01:36] <variant> Bacon5o: just resize the parititon and take up the remaining space
[01:36] <variant> Tim90: sorry, what about?
[01:36] <skel> jmichaelx: try the mozilla-mplayer plugin?
[01:36] <Flamekebab> dabaR, nothing in there
[01:36] <dabaR> Flamekebab: sidebar
[01:36] <jmichaelx> skel: that is what i am using
[01:36] <Bacon5o> variant: I have it now...,whats the difference between a logical/primary partition?
[01:36] <Tim90> The firefox VS sudo thing
[01:36] <Flamekebab> dabaR, I know, but there's no entry there!
[01:36] <purefan> skel: for the video card-> the ones released by ATI, I even got a link under Applications:accesories -> ATI Control
[01:36] <skel> jmichaelx: do you see it in about:plugins   ?
[01:37] <qatsi> ibe just installed kiba-dock via cvs, but i want to uninstall, can anyone tell me howto ?
[01:37] <coz_> Goof, you need to read slowly and foloow darefully the how to
[01:37] <jrib> qatsi: what command did you issue to install it?
[01:37] <skel> purefan: ah ok, so you went to ATI's site and downloaded them?
[01:37] <Richard_> howdy folks, I recently installed thunderbird but i keeps on saying its already running
[01:37] <coz_> follow
[01:37] <jmichaelx> skel: mplayer comes up and tries to play the clips, but they will not play
[01:37] <dabaR> Flamekebab: what about edit-prefs-behavior-always open in broser windows
[01:37] <purefan> skel: yeap
[01:37] <Richard_> but not responding
[01:37] <qatsi> jrib: make install...
[01:37] <Tim90> Goof: thats the only way it caan be done
[01:37] <Richard_> rebooting doesnt help and I cant find the process :(
[01:37] <godmachine81> man i dont get this big hype with tomboy
[01:37] <Goof> coz_:  I'm using ATI Radeon 9250 Card.
[01:37] <godmachine81> whats so special about "tomboy"
[01:37] <deadhobo> Can incorrect modelines really damage a LCD?
[01:37] <skel> jmichaelx: oh I get that too in dapper.. I click the little fullscreen button and back again and it seems to work.. does that help?
[01:37] <jrib> qatsi: try make uninstall, but there are no guarantees.  In the future, consider checkinstall
[01:37] <coz_> Goof, oh well for et that how to
[01:38] <qatsi> godmachine81: me neither
[01:38] <variant> Bacon5o: its a little complicated but you can have 4 primary parts and you can make one a logical partition which you can then sub partition
[01:38] <coz_> Goof, forget that how to then
[01:38] <purefan> skel: I saw it had the double window mode on, so I turned it to a single screen mode, now I need to restart the xserver, any way of doing it without having to restart the machine?
[01:38] <qatsi> jrib: ok, ill try, thank you :d
[01:38] <jrib> !checkinstall > qatsi
[01:38] <Flamekebab> dabaR, BINGO! thanks
[01:38] <vrta> hi
[01:38] <mikedoty> I am having trouble finding the .torrent file for ubuntu on the download page...
[01:38] <variant> Bacon5o: if you need more than 4 partitions you can have 3 primary and one logical
[01:38] <dabaR> Flamekebab: welcome
[01:38] <jmichaelx> skel: no, it can't play the video clips. i have this problem on two edgy machines
[01:38] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[01:38] <mikedoty> Perhaps I was "Other distribution options?"
[01:38] <variant> Bacon5o: sorry, tats a crappy explanation :P
[01:38] <godmachine81> qatsi:: i installed tomboy and f-spot to see what the hype was.. f-spot is cool.. but tomboy.. its just pointless if you have mousepad/gedit/ or some light text editor
[01:38] <jacquesdupontd> i just bought a DWL-G520
[01:38] <Tim90> goof: i have ati radeon 9550 works great and i didnt have to wory about drivers not once
[01:38] <variant> godmachine81: agread
[01:38] <nbx909> jmichaelx, the defult ones?
[01:38] <jacquesdupontd> and i bought it to put it in mode monitor
[01:38] <jacquesdupontd> but it doesnt work with edgy
[01:38] <skel> purefan: hmm.. ok. Ubuntu is packaged with video drivers for ATI usually.. I'm using nvidia so I'm not as familiar.. but there is a restricted modules package that comes in ubuntu that you can install that has those drivers.. maybe they would work better with edgy?
[01:38] <coz_> mikedoty, you could always download it  directly from the site
[01:39] <jacquesdupontd> anybody having an issue on it ?
[01:39] <jrib> mikedoty: what page are you currently on?  (urL)
[01:39] <NemesisD> anyone in here know anything about ndiswrapper utils?
[01:39] <jmichaelx> skel: can you play the yahoo news video clips in edgy??
[01:39] <mikedoty> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[01:39] <qatsi> godmachine81: agree, F-spot is nice, and i cant find the use of tomboy...
[01:39] <Bacon5o> variant: well its asking me whether I should do a primary or a logical?
[01:39] <Goof> Tim90:  does it support ATI Radeon 9250 too?
[01:39] <mikedoty> I was only getting 15kb/s.  I guess I could try a couple other FTP servers
[01:39] <jrib> mikedoty: click on your country
[01:39] <jacquesdupontd> edgy = no mode monitor for atheros chipset ?
[01:39] <nbx909> try the torrent
[01:39] <Tim90> yess ,
[01:39] <skel> jmichaelx: I'll find out soon enough
[01:39] <godmachine81> qatsi:: evidently someone has found a use for it.. its in every podcast i listen to, its in every edgy review.. and i dont get it
[01:39] <vrta> a quick question: is there a way, to make apt-get to install all the packages i have installed right now, so i can "reinstall" them all when I make a clean install ?
[01:39] <variant> Bacon5o: what are you doing? you are creating a new parition, this is not what you want
[01:39] <jacquesdupontd> edgy = no mode monitor for atheros chipset ?
[01:39] <grndslm> what are all the java packages that I need to install on edgy to ensure hassle-free compatibility in the future?
[01:40] <Bacon5o> yes variant
[01:40] <skel> purefan: you can do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart  to re-init your X drivers
[01:40] <Bacon5o> I am creating a new partition
[01:40] <skel> purefan: that will restart X though
[01:40] <vrta> i mean, can i somehow export the list of apps i have installed right now
[01:40] <Bacon5o> trust me on this one :D
[01:40] <Tim90> Goof: run this "glxinfo |grep direct" tell me what it says
[01:40] <variant> Bacon5o: in the gparted on the ubuntu live cd you just resize the parititon to take up the free space
[01:40] <skel> purefan: but not the whole OS
[01:40] <jrib> mikedoty: after you click on your country (mirror) there is a list of files at the bottom.  Some of them are torrents
[01:40] <qatsi> jrib: thanks for the checkinstall info :D very useful :) !
[01:40] <purefan> skel: Actually before I had installed the 64 bit version I tried the 32 bit for a while, and with it I used EasyUbuntu to get the drivers for the ATI but they didnt work so well, it kept using MESA instead of any ATI
[01:40] <Bacon5o> meh alright
[01:40] <nbx909> skel, or just startx
[01:40] <variant> Bacon5o: other than telling you that i cant advise you any more because i am confused by the feedback your giving me :P
[01:40] <dabaR> vrta: dpkg -l will show all that is installed now, and then you can use that list.
[01:40] <coz_> jacquesdupontd, I am not sure if there is a fix for that you may have to do alittle goggling to see what otheres have done with that model
[01:40] <skel> nbx909: if X is already running?
[01:40] <Goof> Tim90:  Yes.
[01:41] <jacquesdupontd> yeah
[01:41] <nbx909> skel, oh no lol
[01:41] <RobNyc_> is it me cuz i keep getting startup errors when i enter gnome in both pcs
[01:41] <Tim90> then it will work
[01:41] <grndslm> jacquesdupontd...your problem is with a monitor?
[01:41] <jacquesdupontd> ive searched all the evening
[01:41] <jrib> jmichaelx: have you installed w32codecs?
[01:41] <lakcaj> W I R E L E S S    O N    L I N U X     C A N    D I E    I N    A     F I R E
[01:41] <coz_> jacquesdupontd, you may want to preface the search with " ubuntu then the model number
[01:41] <jacquesdupontd> with mode monitor
[01:41] <skel> nbx909: =D was curious if they changed that =P
[01:41] <Tim90> GOOF: go for it .
[01:41] <qatsi> anyone here using XGL with Xinerama ?
[01:41] <vrta> dabaR tnx. wold prefer an automatic way
[01:41] <jacquesdupontd> that was working with dapper
[01:41] <vrta> but this is a start
[01:41] <mikedoty> Hm.  I'm in the United States; which ones are torrent files?
[01:41] <diepruis> @lakcaj lol
[01:41] <skel> lakcaj: sounds like you got a crappy HW vendor
[01:41] <nbx909> skel, no that's been hard coded for years
[01:41] <coz_> lakcaj, my wireless works fine
[01:41] <variant> lakcaj: lol
[01:41] <jacquesdupontd> it seems its because of madwifi-ng
[01:41] <Goof> Tim90:  thanks!
[01:41] <jrib> mikedoty: the ones that end in .torrent ;)
[01:41] <River> My Edgy upgrade from 6.06 was interrupted and now fails to boot with "/etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf" no such file ore directory, can someone help ?
[01:41] <nbx909> mikedoty, i'll get you the link which one do you want?
[01:41] <mikedoty> They all hyperlink to the same reroute URL so I can't tell
[01:41] <jacquesdupontd> and dapper was madwifi
[01:41] <jacquesdupontd> not madwifi-ng
[01:41] <mikedoty> No pref, I'm in IL so I'm pretty equal opportunity geographicallly
[01:42] <coz_> River, what are you on now
[01:42] <deadhobo> Anyone here have an Alienware 51-m?
[01:42] <Tim90> Goof: post here if you have any problems
[01:42] <jacquesdupontd> ive read that we can do it
[01:42] <deadhobo> I can't seem to figure out the modelines for it :/
[01:42] <jacquesdupontd> building interfaces athX
[01:42] <Tim90> ;)
[01:42] <jacquesdupontd> but i dont understand at all
[01:42] <jrib> mikedoty: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu-releases/edgy/ for example
[01:42] <variant> River: boot to the live cd and chroot your ubuntu install, from there continue the apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:42] <jacquesdupontd> the guy dont explain at all
[01:42] <nbx909> mikedoty, er torrent doesn't matter on location, I ment which type of edgy? x86, ppc, amd64?
[01:42] <godmachine81> gnomefreak:: having technical difficulties?
[01:42] <jacquesdupontd> just said it was possible
[01:42] <mikedoty> Oh well of course
[01:42] <mikedoty> x86
[01:42] <River> coz_ Another of my boxes which has already been upgraded to Edgy
[01:42] <LjL> lakcaj, you're not the first to be frustrated with wireless unfortunately, but still please don't type stuff in caps etc like that, it's annoying ;-)
[01:42] <jacquesdupontd> im so sad cuz iv'e look to buy the best card for monitor
[01:42] <mikedoty> Sorry I'm fairly dense at times :p
[01:42] <skel> variant: is there any harm in just updating sources.list, apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[01:43] <jacquesdupontd> and then i see that its not possible cuz of edgy
[01:43] <nbx909> mikedoty, k 1 sec
[01:43] <jacquesdupontd> or cuz of madwifi-ng
[01:43] <variant> skel: none at all, thats what i did. make sure your system is sane before doing it though
[01:43] <qatsi> is there a good howto for twinview and xgl ?
[01:43] <jmichaelx> jrib: yes, all codecs are installed
[01:43] <skel> variant: okie =]  in middle of upgrade atm
[01:43] <River> variant , by live CD you mean the Deskstop ? I have the Alternate
[01:43] <variant> River: as long as you can get a command line it doesnt matter
[01:43] <deadhobo> Well, I'm going to plug in some guesses in modelines... I hope it dosn'
[01:43] <godmachine81> qatsi:: you dont need xgl if your in edgy.. edgy has aiglx
[01:43] <Luxurious> Hiya, I'm trying to connect to the Internet using a static configuration.  My problem, however, is that I'm not 100% sure which values to fill into "network", "broadcast" and "gateway".  Know of any documentation that explains what these values should be on a router configuration?
[01:43] <jrib> jmichaelx: download the file and see if regular mplayer plays it
[01:43] <Bacon5o> variant: this is the situation. I have a slave drive that is partitioned in two. How does this work if I partition another spot (say 10GB) for ubuntu
[01:44] <jacquesdupontd> im gonna go crazy
[01:44] <variant> River: even a gentoo live cd will do :) you just need a chroot environment
[01:44] <jacquesdupontd> cuz im searching since
[01:44] <jacquesdupontd> 3 hours
[01:44] <nbx909> mikedoty, alternate or desktop?
[01:44] <mikedoty> desktop please ;)
[01:44] <Luxurious> I excpect that "gateway" is my router IP address, 192.168.1.254 on may Cayman model.
[01:44] <jmichaelx> jrib: how would i download one of those files?
[01:44] <Goof> Tim90: When I run beryl-manager or beryl-xgl .. I get this ..
[01:44] <Goof> XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
[01:44] <Goof> Nvidia Absent, assuming AIGLX
[01:44] <Goof> beryl-xgl: No composite extension
[01:44] <dabaR> Luxurious: man interfaces
[01:44] <variant> Bacon5o: you woul just resize one of the paritions leaving 10gb space and create a new empty parition in the empty space
[01:44] <unixslut> hey
[01:44] <godmachine81> gnomefreak:: having problems?
[01:44] <Goof> Is it normal?
[01:44] <Luxurious> Thanks dabar
[01:44] <nbx909> mikedoty, http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/ubuntu-releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[01:44] <Ron__> hi anyone knoe how to open a port? can private msg me?
[01:44] <variant> Bacon5o: then select that parition in the installer under manual partitioning
[01:45] <tiger> dabar, what does  http://127.0.0.0/8 mean ? /8 ?
[01:45] <grndslm> What is a disklabel??  And should I set it to msdos or bsd??
[01:45] <gnomefreak> godmachine81: no
[01:45] <mikedoty> Aha same link I was thinking of trying, but I was afraid to since I"ve proven myself rather incompetent so far :p
[01:45] <unixslut> interest
[01:45] <qatsi> godmachine81: yes i need xgl, i have an ati
[01:45] <variant> gnomefreak: ignore it
[01:45] <D4m4ge> is anyone using fglrx? i have a font path problem?
[01:45] <mikedoty> Thanks for the help nbx909 :)
[01:45] <River> variant, I tried previously via "recover broken system" although the upgrade continued, many things failed because /usr and /proc amongst others were not mounted
[01:45] <nbx909> Ron_, unless you installed a firewall then all ports are open
[01:45] <qatsi> godmachine81: i cant use aiglx :(
[01:45] <coz_> Luxurious, what you need for static is your ip address, the gateway is the ip address of yourrouter probably or your isp
[01:45] <variant> River: then the answer is simple.
[01:45] <godmachine81> qatsi:: ohhh
[01:45] <nbx909> mikedoty, np, just trying to appease the linux gods before I install edgy on this computer :P
[01:45] <dabaR> tiger: it means 8 bits in a 32 bit ip address are relevant
[01:45] <variant> River: Boot the live cd and we can go from there
[01:45] <nbx909> i already have it on my server
[01:45] <tarnap> <-- leaving
[01:45] <tarnap> bye bye
[01:45] <nbx909> and it installed fairly well
[01:45] <tiger> dabar ohhhhhh :O
[01:46] <godmachine81> and gnomefreak says he aint having problems.. looks like he is having some issues
[01:46] <godmachine81> gnomefreak:: you sure bout that?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> godmachine81: yes i am very sure
[01:46] <variant> River: you should register with nickserv so we can continue in /query as this is a littl ebusy
[01:46] <Ron__> i understand that al ports are closed by default on the new ubuntu version
[01:46] <Ron__> anyone knoe about this?
[01:46] <godmachine81> well thats like 10 join/parts in 2 min
[01:46] <jacquesdupontd> so ?
[01:46] <D4m4ge> can someone using fglrx paste his xorg.conf file somewhere so I can fix mine? :)
[01:47] <gnomefreak> im doing it on purpose its the only way to test these thingsa
[01:47] <grndslm> What is a disklabel??  And should I set it to msdos or bsd??
[01:47] <jacquesdupontd> have i to forget ?
[01:47] <jrib> jmichaelx: can you right click on mplayer plugin and choose save as?
[01:47] <variant> Ron__: all ports are open, there is no firewall by default
[01:47] <godmachine81> what are you testing+
[01:47] <jacquesdupontd> or comeback when there will be less people
[01:47] <godmachine81> ?*
[01:47] <River> variant, sorry what do you mean re nickserv
[01:47] <jacquesdupontd> cuz it seems we dont see what i write, it goes to fast ;)
[01:47] <jmichaelx> jrib: i don't think it gives that option
[01:47] <qatsi> O.K., I'm going to halt-myself now...see ya in a couple of hours :D
[01:47] <mikedoty> Oh, this is a great place to ask about pygame in ubuntu.  Does pygame work nice and cool in ubuntu?
[01:47] <Tim90> GOOF:one sec
[01:47] <nbx909> Ron_, not true, because i'm running a server off of an edgy machine and if you can see http://nbx909.be then my ports are open
[01:47] <jacquesdupontd> im searching on #ubuntu and on #madwifi
[01:47] <Ron__> but when i try to scan my ports rite
[01:47] <variant> River: you are in irc, there is a "nickserve" on this irc network that you can register your nick (river) with and then you will be able to talk to be in a private chat
[01:47] <jacquesdupontd> i dont know where to seach better
[01:47] <Ron__> there are no ports open
[01:47] <Luxurious> dabaR, coz_: The manpage said nothing about what the "broadcast" or "network" stands for.  Got an explanation, because I've no idea what to put there.
[01:48] <skel> well here I go for a restart for edgy.. wish me luck
[01:48] <nbx909> Ron_, linux only opens ports as needed
[01:48] <variant> Ron__: there are no services runing on those ports you mean
[01:48] <Ron__> ya that is the problem
[01:48] <Ron__> correct
[01:48] <nbx909> what services do you want?
[01:48] <nbx909> lol] 
[01:48] <blind> So beryl is not working now after my upgrade to edgy. Is this a common problem? How can I fix it?
[01:48] <godmachine81> gnomefreak:: what are you testing?
[01:48] <dabaR> Luxurious: broadcast is same subnet, so like 192.168.0 but the last octet is 255, the network is 0
[01:48] <coz_> Luxurious, if you have your ip address, the gateway address a 255.255.255.o you are most likely going to be on the net
[01:48] <Ron__> what i am trying to do is that i wan to do a port forward from 25 to another pc port 25
[01:48] <variant> Ron__: what command are you using to portscan?
[01:49] <variant> Ron__: you got iptables installed?
[01:49] <pazemlsqdfmoj> can i turn off grouping of programs in the task bar?
[01:49] <Ron__> i am just using the ubuntu ..desktop port scan
[01:49] <Hellclan> can some help me get ubuntu to see my wireless card
[01:49] <Luxurious> coz_: I have a router
[01:49] <Ron__> ya installed
[01:49] <gnomefreak> godmachine81: please stay on topic and im testing scripts
[01:49] <Tim90> Goof: still need help
[01:49] <variant> pazemlsqdfmoj: yeah i think so
[01:49] <variant> pazemlsqdfmoj: dont rememebr how though
[01:49] <Ron__> after i installed ssh already ..i have the port 22 open..
[01:49] <Ron__> bt i dun wan to install a software just to open a port
[01:49] <godmachine81> gnomefreak:: quit being a bitch about it i just asked..  it is on topic to see what your testing if it has to do with ubuntu.. besides if anyone else was joining/parting like that you would kick/ban them for flooding with joins
[01:49] <Luxurious> dabaR: So if my IP address is 192.168.1.13, then "broadcast" should be set to 192.168.1.0 ?
[01:49] <akappa> Hi guiys
[01:50] <Ron__> i just want to open the port 25 and forward it to another pc
[01:50] <coz_> Luxurious, the the gateway address is the router address, the one that you putinto the browser address abar to configure it
[01:50] <nbx909> Ron_, then it's a command
[01:50] <Tim90> Goof:
[01:50] <dabaR> Luxurious: hm...I did not say that....255 broadcast, .0 network
[01:50] <jrib> jmichaelx: then you'll have to look at the source
[01:50] <AdamKili> how do i upgrade to Edgy? i understand that there's a wiki with instructions. can someone give my the linky?
[01:50] <River> variant, nickserv is a channel or a server , sorry bit of a noob
[01:50] <Ron__> wats the command?
[01:50] <godmachine81> truth hurts..
[01:50] <xexos> hello
[01:50] <variant> River: nickserv is a bot on this network
[01:50] <jrib> jmichaelx: but the plugin does usually give the option, or at least of copying the url
[01:50] <nbx909> Ron_, but why do you want to forward port 25 to a computer?
[01:50] <nbx909> another computer*
[01:50] <Ron__> bt the thing is that u nid to have a service running ..to listen on the port then it will be open izzit/
[01:50] <variant> River: dont worry about it, just get back to doing what you were doing :P
[01:50] <Luxurious> I don't get it dabaR.  Broadcast 192.168.1.255?  Network 192.168.1.0?
[01:51] <dabaR> ya
[01:51] <akappa> I've upgraded my ubuntu machine to 6.10 version, but usplash doesn't work: it says that no theme is avaiable for my resolution (1280x1024), I think that the problem comes from my previous modification of the original theme...
[01:51] <akappa> how I can fix this issue?
[01:51] <Goof> Tim90:  yea?
[01:51] <Ron__> ok ..the thing is that..i have installed postfix on my virtual machince ubuntu server
[01:51] <tiger> dabar: postfix is a litle bit more complicated than QK Smtp server for Windows,.........,....
[01:51] <xexos> How do you upgrade from a disk?
[01:51] <Luxurious> Okay, thank you dabaR and coz_.  I'll try those values.
[01:51] <jmichaelx> jrib: where do you find that option?
[01:51] <nbx909> Ron_, yeah there would be no point to forword a port if there wasn't anything running on it
[01:51] <jacquesdupontd> edgy = no mode monitor for atheros chipset ?
[01:51] <Tim90> Hows it going
[01:51] <jmichaelx> where are you right-clicking?
[01:51] <jrib> jmichaelx: I right click where the video is supposed to show
[01:51] <tiger> dabar: do U know WHERE is the port to send mails ?!
[01:51] <SBlade> hi
[01:51] <dabaR> tiger: no, I am leaving now, good luck
[01:51] <Ron__> i wan to port forward from my host os ubuntu desktop to this vm server
[01:52] <nbx909> Ron_, then you need to open port 25 on the host machine
[01:52] <nbx909> ah
[01:52] <Tim90> have you done the  "repositories"
[01:52] <tiger> dabar Good Bye
[01:52] <River> variant can I use a 6.06 Desktop live CD  to get my command prompt ?
[01:52] <Ron__> how shall i do that?
[01:52] <purefan> skel: are you still around?
[01:52] <variant> River: yup
[01:52] <variant> River: any live cd
[01:52] <SBlade> how do i edit a user's startup session from the console as root?
[01:52] <Tim90> !livecd
[01:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[01:52] <River> variant, thanks will go try now
[01:52] <variant> River: np, just highlight me when your done
[01:52] <Ron__> how shall i open the prt 25 on the host machine
[01:52] <nbx909> Ron_, why not just install postfix on the native machine?
[01:52] <akappa> anyone have a clue for my problem?
[01:53] <Tim90> !botsnack
[01:53] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:53] <Ron__> no cannot
[01:53] <nbx909> akappa, what is the problem?
[01:53] <Ron__> i just wan to do port forwarding
[01:53] <xexos> My ubuntu machine reconizes breezy as a newer vesion but will not upgrade, any help?
[01:53] <nbx909> Ron_, why can't you?
[01:53] <nbx909> Ron_, google port forwarding
[01:53] <nbx909> !portforwarding
[01:53] <akappa> okay, I repeat:
[01:53] <Tim90> Goof: keep me updated 1
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portforwarding - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <coz_> akappa, sorry , could you repeat the problem
[01:53] <akappa> I've upgraded my ubuntu machine to 6.10 version, but usplash doesn't work: it says that no theme is avaiable for my resolution (1280x1024), I think that the problem comes from my previous modification of the original theme...
[01:53] <Ron__> because my idea is to run a mail server, web server in different vms..
[01:53] <nbx909> akappa, oh yes
[01:53] <riddlebox> can someone help me I tried installing the nvidia drivers from apt-get and from the nvidia site, and had problems with both?
[01:54] <jacquesdupontd> :(
[01:54] <jmichaelx> jrib: ok, i right clicked where the video should have played, copied the URL, and pasted it into the address bar in mplayer.... it did play the short commercial that comes on first (although very crappily), but it did not move on to the actual news clip
[01:54] <nbx909> akappa, try removing and reinstalling usplash
[01:54] <akappa> nbx909, done :P
[01:54] <nbx909> oh
[01:54] <nbx909> lol
[01:54] <xexos> My ubuntu machine reconizes breezy as a newer vesion but will not upgrade, any help?
[01:54] <akappa> but it doesn't resolve..
[01:54] <nbx909> akappa, try purgeing and reinstalling
[01:54] <akappa> umh
[01:54] <bur[n] er> xexos: uhh... breezy was ages ago... edgy is the newest
[01:54] <jrib> jmichaelx: this may be a problem with the site's scripting
[01:54] <nekomata> GRUB refuses to start if my SATA drive is plugged in (it just freezes). How can I switch from GRUB to LILO, which I hope works
[01:54] <Ron__> i try looking around in forums..
[01:54] <kober> Hey, I was looking at installing XGL/Compiz on my laptop but I can only find info on nvidia and ati.  I have intel
[01:54] <akappa> I try, but it's frustrating reboot and trying again.. :P
[01:54] <Ron__> i just cant find any solution for this
[01:54] <RaZieL_15> +
[01:54] <RaZieL_15> 
[01:54] <RaZieL_15> 
[01:54] <RaZieL_15> 
[01:54] <RaZieL_15> 
[01:54] <RaZieL_15> 
[01:54] <RaZieL_15> 
[01:54] <bur[n] er> kober: using edgy?  it may just work... get beryl :)
[01:54] <jmichaelx> jrib: maybe. these videos work fine in dapper
[01:54] <jrib> Raskall: stop
[01:55] <jrib> erm
[01:55] <akappa> idiot.
[01:55] <SBlade> how do i edit a user's startup session from the console as root?
[01:55] <kober> bur[n] er: Yes with edgy :)
[01:55] <coz_> Ron_, i didn't catch the problem
[01:55] <Ron__> hmm is there realli no one that can help me?
[01:55] <RaZieL_15> [1] Then
[01:55] <Linux101> I got a question
[01:55] <xexos> bur[n] er: i think its breezy, my machine is at like 5.06 or something... but i have a v6 cd
[01:55] <kober> bur[n] er: Do you know what the package name is for beryl?
[01:55] <bur[n] er> kober: my intel just works with AIGLX built into xorg...  just get beryl instead of compiz...
[01:55] <nekomata> How can I switch from GRUB to LILO in Ubuntu?
[01:55] <coz_> Linux101, go ahead
[01:55] <Linux101> which version of Ubuntu is the most Loaded by default -- as in comes with the most packages already
[01:55] <bur[n] er> kober: beryl... but you have to add a repository...
[01:55] <bur[n] er> !beryl
[01:55] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[01:55] <kober> thanks
[01:55] <nbx909> nekomata, why would you want to do that?
[01:55] <bur[n] er> np
[01:56] <Ron__> coz_ i have private msg u
[01:56] <nbx909> Linux101, all packages in all versions are everywhere
[01:56] <nekomata> nbx909: GRUB is not compatible with my computer
[01:56] <deadhobo> UGH! I can't figure out how to change my screen resolution to widescreen, I have been working on it for a few hours... I would really appriciate any help
[01:56] <Linux101> I mean installed by default
[01:56] <nekomata> nbx909: Something to do with my SATA controller
[01:56] <Linux101> on a Clean install
[01:56] <Ron__> i just wan to open port 25 and have it forward to my port 25 in another machine
[01:56] <coz_> Linux101, well I am running edgy right now but both edgy and dapper would be fine and what you arelooking for
[01:56] <Linux101> i know they are out there to DL And install
[01:56] <SBlade> someone please help me
[01:56] <Ron__> how can i do that?
[01:56] <Ron__> izzit soo diffcult?
[01:56] <nbx909> nekomata, ah
[01:56] <prower> Is it easy to set up compiz and the like under Eft, or is it not stable enough to bother? :>
[01:56] <nbx909> !lilo
[01:56] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[01:56] <[1] then> ATTENCION!
[01:56] <nbx909> what help
[01:56] <nbx909> lol
[01:56] <Linux101> Coz: so which Distro has the most packages installed on a clean install
[01:56] <[1] then> ATTENT!
[01:56] <[1] then> PRECAUSION
[01:56] <bur[n] er> prower: beryl > compiz... compiz kinda sucks in comparison
[01:56] <nbx909> !spainish
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spainish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <[1] then> !ATTENT!
[01:57] <Linux101> i wanna install that sucker and have everything right there installed and ready
[01:57] <nbx909> !spanish
[01:57] <Garcher> Hey how do i reinstall 6.10??? i have an iso but ubuntu says its system is up to date..
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ATTENT! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <bur[n] er> Linux101: the dvd
[01:57] <nbx909> !espanol
[01:57] <sharperguy> !spam
[01:57] <[1] then> Info SpaM Es El Colega Mas Amigable De todos Pidele Ayuda Solo Pon SpaM Y Listo.
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about espanol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <Garcher> .
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <Linux101> thre is a ubuntu DVD?
[01:57] <Garcher> Hey how do i reinstall 6.10??? i have an iso but ubuntu says its system is up to date..
[01:57] <prower> bur[n] er: Never heard of that before...very easy to set up?
[01:57] <coz_> Linux101, yes there is
[01:57] <bur[n] er> prower: as easy as compiz
[01:57] <bur[n] er> !beryl
[01:57] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[01:57] <coz_> Linux101, hold on I will give you the link
[01:57] <mikedoty> !pygame
[01:57] <blind> #ubuntu-xgl
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pygame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <Linux101> Thanks
[01:57] <Ron__> no one here does portforwarding?
[01:58] <Linux101> you forward ports via the Firewall
[01:58] <prower> bur[n] er: Thanks, I will take a look
[01:58] <coz_> Linux101, here you go http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/release/
[01:58] <bur[n] er> Ron__: via your router?   just login and figure it out
[01:58] <Linux101> APC, IPTABLES, whatever
[01:58] <Ron__> i dun have router
[01:58] <SBlade> someone please help me
[01:58] <SBlade> someone please help me
[01:58] <[1] then> ENTER IRC.MINDFORGE.ORG ENTER #SUERTE! IRC.MINDFORGE.ORG #SUERTE ENTES PLEASE, VIRUS TROJANO AYUDA! HELP! VIRUS TROJANO HACKER IN IRC.MINDFORGE.ORG #SUERTE GRACCE GRACIAS ZENKUI ;) ---> IRC.MINDFORGE.ORG #SUERTE <---
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[01:58] <bbrazil> !ops
[01:58] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[01:58] <SBlade> how do i edit a user's startup session from the console as root?
[01:58] <[1] then> ENTER IRC.MINDFORGE.ORG ENTER #SUERTE! IRC.MINDFORGE.ORG #SUERTE ENTES PLEASE, VIRUS TROJANO AYUDA! HELP! VIRUS TROJANO HACKER IN IRC.MINDFORGE.ORG #SUERTE GRACCE GRACIAS ZENKUI ;) ---> IRC.MINDFORGE.ORG #SUERTE <---
[01:58] <coz_> SBlade, what is the problem again
[01:58] <Ron__> the problem i try follow many command to open a port
[01:58] <Linux101> i cant keep track of shit with all this SPAM
[01:58] <Ron__> even i follow the command
[01:58] <Linux101> are any ops here
[01:58] <prower> Oh...hmm, spoke too soon perhaps :> Still in development, probably not ideal for a production machine
[01:58] <rag> please somebody have a AMD Sempron?
[01:58] <apokryphos> hm, annoying
[01:58] <Ron__> when i do scan ..it still neber say it is open
[01:58] <SBlade> coz_:how do i edit a user's startup session from the console as root?
[01:58] <bur[n] er> Ron__: two NICs and internet in one, intranet on the other?  I think firestarter is a gui to hlp configure that
[01:58] <nbx909> rag i have an atholon xp
[01:59] <Amaranth> did i hit the wrong guy?
[01:59] <Ron__> i also got use firestarter
[01:59] <Ron__> but doesnt work
[01:59] <apokryphos> Amaranth: I think so
[01:59] <akappa> reboot
[01:59] <Garcher> j0
[01:59] <Linux101> lol i thappens
[01:59] <coz_> SBlade, sorry guy I will have to pass that one on to someone
[01:59] <Ron__> saids need to have service the listen on the port..then the post will be automatically open
[01:59] <Ron__> bt i just wan to open a port
[01:59] <Garcher> help?
[01:59] <SBlade> thanks anyway coz
[01:59] <rag> nbx909: ok i have a problem with sempron, wich version do you use?
[01:59] <Ron__> ....
[01:59] <rag> nbx909: first thanks
[02:00] <nbx909> rag, what?
[02:00] <nekomata> Can I install lilo from windows?
[02:00] <Linux101> Coz:  so Ubuntu Live DVD Comes with a ton of packages pre-installed eh?
[02:00] <nbx909> rag, it's an xp 2100
[02:00] <Ron__> i already tried for one days already
[02:00] <ompaul> xexos-[afk] , in a channel with over a 1000 users afk is not allows
[02:00] <kober> bur[n] er: Did you use the nvidia or ati startxgl.sh
[02:00] <nbx909> 32 bit
[02:00] <mcquaid> is there a way to change gdm's default resolution/refresh rate besides changing xorg.conf?
[02:00] <Linux101> Coz:  Does Ubuntu have a list of the included PAckages Anywhere????
[02:00] <Ron__> can anyone help me?
[02:00] <ompaul> xexos-[afk] , please revert you nick now
[02:00] <ompaul> Linux101, packages.ubuntu.com
[02:00] <Garcher> how do i reinstall 6.10??? i have an iso but ubuntu says the system is up to date..
[02:01] <prower> Anyone using E17 then? It was pretty buggy last I tried, a few months ago
[02:01] <ompaul> Ron_, bt opens it itself
[02:01] <Ron__> no one here knoes how to open a port and port forard it?
[02:01] <rag> nbx909: 2 computers with amd sempron, i dont know velocity
[02:01] <nbx909> Garcher, you want to do a clean install?
[02:01] <boricua> i dont understand the reason for edgy release since dapper was a LTS release, other then 3 new applications and a little faster boot process i see no difference
[02:01] <nalioth> Ron__: portforward.com
[02:01] <variant> Ron__: I know, i am just not telling you :P
[02:01] <Ron__> no i udun wan to install service ..i just wan to open a port
[02:01] <Linux101> Ron: Firewall Linux or Router
[02:01] <nbx909> rag, what are you trying to do?
[02:01] <rag> nbx909: what version do you use?
[02:01] <godmachine81> prower:: i have it.. dont use it much.. dont like the gold theme
[02:01] <astopy> ompaul: if he's afk, he won't be able to change his nick back :)
[02:01] <rag> nbx909: install with live
[02:01] <nbx909> velocity?
[02:01] <grndslm> soo...can anybody explain to me the difference between sun-java5-bin sun-java5-jre java-package java-runtime java-common & java2-runtime???  or at least tell me the necessary ones to enjoy hassle-free ubuntuing??
[02:01] <Linux101> lol
[02:01] <Ron__> ..
[02:01] <variant> Ron__: man iptables
[02:01] <Garcher> yeap
[02:01] <NemesisD> ndiswrapper is showing my drivers as working and the hardware present but my system is still treating my USB wireless adapter as nonexistant, and it isn't lighting up, any ideas?
[02:01] <xexos-[afk] > ompaul, im still here
[02:01] <Ron__> this is my first time asking question here
[02:01] <prower> godmachine81: Oh, yeah...well the theme is a bit off, but there's good ones available :>
[02:01] <SBlade> I added beryl-manager to my startup on my user account, and its preventing gnome from starting. how do i edit a user's startup session from the console as root? anyone please help
[02:01] <dagrump> well i had a ?, but it looks as though my issue is minor so I'll refrain.
[02:01] <godmachine81> prower:: they dont work
[02:01] <variant> Ron__: yeah, you asked the same one 60 times now
[02:02] <boricua> when i run now in edgy update manager i see  libggi2 and mplayer as updates but it is greyd out without able to select it why?\
[02:02] <nbx909> rag, yeah click on the install icon on the desktop
[02:02] <xexos-[afk] > ompaul, but i got to go now so im leaving, bye
[02:02] <Ron__> yes tat is because i cant get an ans
[02:02] <coz_> NemesisD, what usb adaptor do you have?
[02:02] <rag> nbx909: not start desktop...
[02:02] <Linux101> so what is the biggest and best package list -- Edgy, Dapper, Breezy, Warty, etc..
[02:02] <wastrel> Ron_:  did you try firestarter?
[02:02] <Ron__> ya i tried
[02:02] <Garcher> nbx909: i want a clean install
[02:02] <NemesisD> coz_, i have a dwl-g132 A2 by d-link
[02:02] <rag> nbx909: i have a problem on "Starting ACPI Services..."
[02:02] <cafuego> Linux101: Dapper
[02:02] <godmachine81> Linux101:: thats a kinda crazy question
[02:02] <ompaul> Linux101, the one for your version of the distro
[02:02] <nbx909> Garcher, put the disk in the drive and reboot
[02:02] <NsOmNiAc> next question installing webmin on the edgy eft
[02:02] <Ron__> even if i go inside and open a port
[02:02] <rag> nbx909: it not start nothing
[02:02] <Linux101> so you think Dapper has the best
[02:02] <coz_> NemesisD,  did  you check to see if that was supported
[02:02] <wastrel> edgy has the best packages since they're newer
[02:02] <Ron__> it doesnt work
[02:03] <ompaul> !webmin
[02:03] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[02:03] <NsOmNiAc> anyone know what the file is called in apt ?
[02:03] <nbx909> rag, so acpi services doesn't start?
[02:03] <Ron__> i need to install service that will listen on the port
[02:03] <Linux101> ill look over Dappers List
[02:03] <astopy> SBlade: would probably be easier to just remove beryl
[02:03] <Ron__> i mean
[02:03] <Garcher> nbx909: but that wouldnt erase windows too?
[02:03] <cafuego> Linux101: if you need to ask, you should be using Dapper. it's stable.
[02:03] <ianmacgregor> !webmin
[02:03] <grndslm> soo...can anybody explain to me the difference between sun-java5-bin sun-java5-jre java-package java-runtime java-common & java2-runtime???  or at least tell me the necessary ones to enjoy hassle-free ubuntuing??
[02:03] <prower> How's Beryl with regard to stability?
[02:03] <rag> nbx909: it doesn't start
[02:03] <Ron__> if i installed postfix in another pc..
[02:03] <NsOmNiAc> you have something you could suggest better ?
[02:03] <wastrel> there's no webmin in apt
[02:03] <NemesisD> coz_, yeah it is, it uses the atheros (sp?) chipset
[02:03] <nbx909> Garcher, not if you don't select the windows partition to install on
[02:03] <Linux101> I asked  because i want a Default install that has basically all the packs i can get installed by default
[02:03] <Garcher> k thanks
[02:03] <coz_> prower, it is working fine .. there are cglitches it is beta'
[02:03] <Ron__> i wan to portforward to this postfix ..in another pc..from my internet pc..
[02:03] <boricua> why do i see an orange line here in irc some times under a commant
[02:03] <Ron__> how can i do that
[02:03] <Linux101> i have a test system with 300Gig of space
[02:03] <Linux101> and 4 gig Ram
[02:03] <Ron__> y i ask so many times
[02:03] <SBlade> astopy: good idea.....now i feel like a moron for not thinking about that sooner lol
[02:03] <rag> nbx909: its stop on "*Starting ACPI Services" with live amd64 iso
[02:03] <Ron__> bt i jsut cant get a reply
[02:03] <Linux101> i wanna install the biggest distro i can to play with lol
[02:04] <prower> coz_: Ahh, I see... .11 that would be
[02:04] <AkumAPRIME> My xorg.conf here: http://pastebin.ca/227018  . Im trying to get my dual monitors working. Right now I have a few probs: A)  if I boot up with the 2ndmonitor connected, it uses that as the primary, and puts a tiny res screen on my laptop. I want to boot with the screen already attached, so how do I change this. B) if I boot up, then attach the 2ndmonitor it boots my lptop at full res, but my 2ndmonitor at a Very low res,
[02:04] <AkumAPRIME> and also places the 2dmonitor to the "left" of my laptop when I want the 2ndmonitor to be to the "right" of the laptop. All help appreciated
[02:04] <SBlade> astopy: THANKS :)
[02:04] <coz_> NemesisD, atheros chipset ok hold on
[02:04] <astopy> SBlade: :)
[02:04] <cafuego> Linux101: that is 1) pointless and 2) not the same as a list of packages, as some are mutually exclusive.
[02:04] <nbx909> rag, hrm no idea ask it on the forums
[02:04] <Siph0n> coz_: im trying to get my DWL-G630 wireless adapter working now, and its not working...
[02:04] <ompaul> !tell Linux101 about components
[02:04] <NsOmNiAc> can someone suggest something similar to webmin for Ubuntu ?
[02:04] <Ron__> i think i have asked like 100 over times..
[02:04] <rag> nbx909: ok thanks
[02:04] <wastrel> Ron_:  you want to forward mail with postfix?  you want to set up your computer as a router?  we're not sure what you want
[02:04] <ompaul> Linux101, read the comment from ubotu please
[02:04] <rag> nbx909: what is version live do you use?
[02:04] <Siph0n> i tryed using the ndiswrapper, but still no luck
[02:04] <Ron__> i have already said many times
[02:04] <Ron__> ok i repeat
[02:04] <Linux101> Cafuego: I dont care of your opinions on what i wish to spend my time doing and i also dont care for your smart A$$ Remarks thanks
[02:04] <nbx909> rag, it's installed to my desktop
[02:05] <AkumAPRIME> Siph0n: Are you SURE you have your Essid and pw input perfectly?
[02:05] <rag> Please!!! problems with amd Sempron, do you know?
[02:05] <Siph0n> AkumAPRIME: yes, ive checked, and rechecked :)
[02:05] <coz_> Siph0n, hold on guy
[02:05] <Linux101> ompaul: Thank you you have been helpful :)
[02:05] <rag> nbx909: desktop version, ok
[02:05] <mngrif> how do i get a working compiler on ubuntu? the gcc package is installed, but anything's ./configure says it can't make executables
[02:05] <Ron__> i wan to open port 25 on my pc which will port forward to port 25 on another pc
[02:05] <jmichaelx> Siph0n: that card should work out of the box
[02:05] <cafuego> Linux101: Feel free to ignore me, but don't be giving me lip, I'm just trying to help you.
[02:05] <nbx909> rag, well to install i used alternate since i'm a nerd like that
[02:05] <nbx909> lol
[02:05] <Ron__> how should i do that?
[02:05] <boricua> mngrif: you need make
[02:05] <nbx909> !tell mngrif about gcc
[02:06] <Siph0n> jmichaelx: i read that, but also read that it doesnt work right out of the box, cause of a defective driver (mrv8k)
[02:06] <rag> nbx909: ok, i have a try with alternate
[02:06] <ianmacgregor> mngrif: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:06] <sharperguy> How do i get the jre plugin for FF
[02:06] <Ron__> i mean dun u all find it stupid
[02:06] <nbx909> rag, well that's a bad idea
[02:06] <mngrif> thanks all
[02:06] <Ron__> if i installed postfix on my pc..
[02:06] <rag> nbx909: bad idea?
[02:06] <Linux101> well in your attempt you come off as sounding like a jerk - so perhaps that is just how it looks - or perhaps your a jerk - either way I will still say thanks for trying
[02:06] <rag> nbx909: why'
[02:06] <rag> nbx909: ?
[02:06] <Ron__> then the port will be opened and thus i can port forward tit to another pc?
[02:06] <nbx909> if the live cd won't start then you'll just have the same problem after the reboot after installing
[02:06] <tiger> Can Anybody to help me to config POSTFIX >?!
[02:06] <Ron__> i just wan to open a port
[02:07] <jmichaelx> siphondo you know what version of dwl-g630 do you have? mine has an atheros chipset. (ver C2)
[02:07] <Ron__> that simple
[02:07] <rag> nbx909: alternate is like gentoo install or easy like kubuntu/ubuntu?
[02:07] <Ron__> y cant i get a ans?
[02:07] <wastrel> Ron_:  you don't want postfix
[02:07] <Siph0n> im version B
[02:07] <wastrel> Ron_:  how is the other computer connected to yours?  are they on the same LAN?
[02:07] <cafuego> Linux101: Yeah, fine.
[02:07] <tiger> Ron_ I think you want a PROXY SERVER
[02:07] <ompaul> Linux101, cafuego was right in his initial comment, and your comment to him was wrong - so please consider that
[02:07] <jmichaelx> Siph0n: do you know what version of dwl-g630 do you have? mine has an atheros chipset. (ver C2
[02:07] <nbx909> rag, alternate is the old text installer, like debians iirc easier then gentoo
[02:07] <Ron__> huh
[02:07] <cafuego> ompaul: never mind., dude.
[02:07] <Siph0n> jmichaelx: im version B
[02:07] <jmichaelx> ok.... your card is different than mine
[02:07] <boricua> tiger:http://howtoforge.net/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10
[02:07] <Ron__> i just need someone to help me
[02:08] <rag> nbx909: tutorial, where is?
[02:08] <Siph0n> B1
[02:08] <tiger> boricua: thanxs :)
[02:08] <Ron__> ............
[02:08] <wastrel> Ron_:  how is the other computer connected to yours?  are they on the same LAN?
[02:08] <Siph0n> jmichaelx: yea... but do u know what chipset mine uses?
[02:08] <Linux101> I have to say he is wrong about Point 1 he made - saying that me testing a unbuntu install is pointless?
[02:08] <rag> nbx909: do you think with alternate solve my problems with amd?
[02:08] <Linux101> that was what i was talking about
[02:08] <nbx909> rag, no tutoral needed. you just go from screen to screen, it's fairly easy
[02:08] <nbx909> rag, probrably not
[02:08] <coz_> NemesisD, have you looked here? http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.drivers.802.11ag.html
[02:09] <tiger> Ron__:  is clear now ? a smtp server is all you need :)
[02:09] <Linux101> it sounded like he was trying to be a wise guy about it - but then again this is all in Text
[02:09] <AkumAPRIME> linux I Think he said that installing the biggest distro possible was pointless... regardless, you should probly just move on
[02:09] <leakd>  n8
[02:09] <wastrel> Ron__:  how is the other computer connected to yours?  are they on the same LAN?
[02:09] <rag> nbx909: ok, by other hand, is possible disable acpi on bios, or something? any idea please...
[02:09] <jmichaelx> Siph0n: well if it uses the driver you mentioned, it would be a marvell
[02:09] <Ron__> yes they are on the same lan
[02:09] <cafuego> Linux101: No, installing *all* packages. Go have a google for 'knapsack problem' and you'll see what I mean <heh>
[02:09] <Ron__> wastrel
[02:09] <Ron__> can i private msg u ?
[02:09] <nbx909> rag, i believe you can in the bois but idk
[02:09] <NemesisD> coz_, i sure havent, im using the default windows drivers from dlink
[02:09] <rag> nbx909, what do you need here? i help you if possible for me
[02:09] <wastrel> no
[02:09] <loki505> i got this error message
[02:09] <Siph0n> well im not sure, cause none of the forum posts mention the DWL-G630 B1 version.... so no clue
[02:09] <loki505> E: mldonkey-server: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:10] <rag> nbx909: what?
[02:10] <flodine> can someone help me edgy keeps asking for passwords when unzipping a rar file i dont understand
[02:10] <loki505> E: mldonkey-server: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:10] <wastrel> Ron__:  is the other computer connected to the internet?
[02:10] <Ron__> I JUST WANT TO OPEN PORT 25
[02:10] <loki505> E: mldonkey-server: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:10] <rag> nbx909: ok , on bios, but how to?
[02:10] <Linux101> well i asked about a Single install of Ubuntu that has all the packs it can bundled in as default - to ensure that No packs cause issues with eachother -- i didnt plan on installing ubuntu as a base and then loading all the packs i could into it
[02:10] <Linux101> that would be pointless lol and break things
[02:10] <Ron__> yes the other com is connected to the internet ..using nat
[02:10] <nbx909> rag, i don't know (idk) how to do that
[02:10] <nbx909> try google
[02:10] <coz_> NemesisD, check that site out and tyr to google more with the name of your cars, and either ubuntu or linux ingeneral
[02:10] <wastrel> Ron__:  your computer is providing the NAT?
[02:10] <cafuego> Linux101: .. which is what I said ;-)
[02:10] <loki505> E: mldonkey-server: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:10] <rag> nbx909: ok, how many version of kubuntu exists for amd?
[02:10] <loki505> can anybody help me out
[02:11] <loki505> please
[02:11] <cafuego> Linux101: A normal base install of Dapper is ~ 2GB and will install just fine.
[02:11] <rag> nbx909: ok, how many version of ubuntu exists for amd?
[02:11] <nbx909> rag, alternate and desktop
[02:11] <Linux101> right but i thought u were saying that - the idea of installing ubuntu  on my test system was pointless
[02:11] <NemesisD> coz_, been bsaically doing that for the past few days, i have all the drivers loaded in ndiswrapper and working but wlan0 is nowhere to be found
[02:11] <Kuberr> is the largest resolution for ubuntu 1024x768?
[02:11] <nbx909> Kuberr, no it's the defult you can reconfigure xorg for higher
[02:11] <clem> Kuberr: no :)
[02:11] <Linux101> i was thinking to myself this is a good way to promote a linux distro lol tell people its pointless eh
[02:11] <nbx909> !xorg
[02:11] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:11] <rag> nbx909: other possibility, disable acpi on live start boot menu
[02:11] <coz_> NemesisD, they are out there, and you will find them.. unfortunately , this is somethiems the case with these cards, as well as other hardware, you have to research first
[02:11] <AkumAPRIME> what command opens a new X?
[02:12] <rag> nbx909: do you know?
[02:12] <cafuego> Linux101: Based on what you said I thought you were going to try and install as many of the 25,000 available packages as possible.
[02:12] <clem> AkumAPRIME: startx
[02:12] <ompaul> Linux101, your offtopic, please take conversations to #ubuntu-offtopic or leave them out thanks
[02:12] <Linux101> LOL Lord No
[02:12] <gypo> Anybody, how do i view/edit a .conf file?
[02:12] <Linux101> talk about a broken linux install
[02:12] <cafuego> Linux101: Anyway, obviously  a misunderstanding.
[02:12] <Ron__> yes correct
[02:12] <rag> how to disable ACPI on boot menu of kubuntu installation
[02:12] <rag> ?
[02:12] <diepruis> @rag noacpi?
[02:12] <AkumAPRIME> clem: that opens a new one, right? so I can sn test and switch back an forth?
[02:12] <Ron__> ok how about i rephrase my question
[02:12] <coz_> gypo, in terminal sudo gedit then the location of the file
[02:12] <Linux101> lol on both ends i see
[02:12] <rag> gypo: vi file.conf or nano -w file.conf
[02:12] <gypo> ok
[02:12] <Ron__> to open a port..i need to have a service listening to that port izzit?
[02:12] <boricua> tiger:to go directly yto postfix http://howtoforge.net/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10_p5
[02:12] <coz_> Linux101, both ends??
[02:13] <deadhobo> What is the maximum resolution for the nvidia driver?
[02:13] <clem> AkumAPRIME: hmm.. no. It starts X from the command line when no other X is running.
[02:13] <NemesisD> ive been researching for 2 days just to get a stupid wireless adapter working and the only thing keeping me from getting this going is some inexplicable problem locating the device
[02:13] <AkumAPRIME> Kuber, what cideo card?
[02:13] <cafuego> Linux101: Anyway, the best version currently is still Dapper... Edgy isn't really stable yet.
[02:13] <rag> diepruis: please say me all , with noacpi , ok it is song for me
[02:13] <rag> diepruis: familiar
[02:13] <Ron__> there is no way i can just open a port without a service listening on it?
[02:13] <Siph0n> jmichaelx: just a real quick question, if my card is showing up when i click on the Networking icon, and i can activate it, and the Link button on my card is lit... what does that mean is wrong? :)
[02:13] <clem> AkumAPRIME: In gnome there is an option switch use though isn't there ?
[02:13] <rag> diepruis: are you sure?
[02:13] <Ron__> i just states using ubuntu
[02:13] <diepruis> @rag could you rephrase that I didn't understand
[02:13] <wastrel> Ron__:  yes, you need to port forward port 25, you don't need to set up a mail server
[02:13] <Linux101> hrm - i will download dapper and read over its list while doing so then
[02:13] <AkumAPRIME> idk, there was a command, brb
[02:13] <Ron__> is there a veri diffcult question to ans
[02:13] <cafuego> Ron__: What would be the point?
[02:13] <tiger> boricua: the page didntt help me :(
[02:13] <wastrel> Ron__:  you can use iptables or firestarter(i think) to forward ports
[02:14] <boricua> why
[02:14] <cafuego> Linux101: packages.ubuntu.com should give you a list I think
[02:14] <AkumAPRIME> Ron_  yesish
[02:14] <Ron__> ?ya i knoe
[02:14] <AkumAPRIME> My xorg.conf here: http://pastebin.ca/227018  . Im trying to get my dual monitors working. Right now I have a few probs: A)  if I boot up with the 2ndmonitor connected, it uses that as the primary, and puts a tiny res screen on my laptop. I want to boot with the screen already attached, so how do I change this. B) if I boot up, then attach the 2ndmonitor it boots my lptop at full res, but my 2ndmonitor at a Very low res,
 and also places the 2dmonitor to the "left" of my laptop when I want the 2ndmonitor to be to the "right" of the laptop. All help appreciated
[02:14] <Linux101> yea im there now reading
[02:14] <tiger> boricua: I cant see proxy config
[02:14] <tiger> .... there
[02:14] <Ron__> what i am trying to said is that
[02:14] <rag> diepruis: ok i have problems with AMD Sempron, when live starting , its stops on "Starting ACPI Services..."
[02:14] <Ron__> i dun wan to install postfix on the pc..just to have the port 25 open
[02:14] <Ron__> does anyone kneoe wat am i toking about
[02:15] <diepruis> @rag ahh ok
[02:15] <Ron__> i just wan to open a port
[02:15] <rag> diepruis: are you sure with noacpi only?
[02:15] <Ron__> wah..i feel like crying man
[02:15] <Linux101> LOL Dapper is pretty loaded
[02:15] <diepruis> @rag I think so, why not working?
[02:15] <ompaul> Ron__, your software opens the ports it needs
[02:15] <bob4444> Hey guys is there a "run" program in ubuntu like there is in windows?
[02:15] <Linux101> Does ubuntu have good USB Support on Clean installs?
[02:15] <Linux101> Keyboard and Mouse
[02:15] <diepruis> @rag is the option not working?
[02:15] <nbx909> Linux101, yes
[02:15] <akappa> groan
[02:15] <Linux101> ah Sweet
[02:15] <rag> diepruis, my customer ufff. tomorrow i like give him a solution, because they have 3 computers amd sempron
[02:15] <cafuego> Ron__: The port is not blcoked byd efault, so when postfix starts, port 25 will be open.
[02:15] <wastrel> Ron__:  you don't want to open the port, you want to forward the port.  ask the right question and you'll get a better router
[02:15] <Ron__> ya
[02:15] <Linux101> Gentoo and CentOS are Picky on USB
[02:15] <tiger> Ron__:  U dont;t listen me......
[02:15] <wastrel> cafuego:  he wants to forward pport 25 to a NAT'ed machine
[02:16] <clem> bob4444: Alt + F2 I thinh
[02:16] <clem> bob4444: Alt + F2 I think
[02:16] <Ron__> yes correct
[02:16] <cafuego> wastrel: Ah, joy...
[02:16] <rag> diepruis: noacpi i dont try yet, but tomorros
[02:16] <diepruis> @rag and they won't boot?
[02:16] <Ron__> watrel ..u understand wat am i toking about
[02:16] <rag> diepruis: noacpi i dont try yet, but tomorrow
[02:16] <bob4444> clem: ok ill try that
[02:16] <Ron__> finally
[02:16] <wastrel> Ron__:  yes but i don't know how to do it :]   iptables
[02:16] <cafuego> Ron__: That's easy, all you need is a firewall rule in the 'nat' table.
[02:16] <gypo> why doesnt gedit or edit work for me?
[02:16] <nbx909> bob4444, when in gnome what clem said workds
[02:16] <nbx909> works*
[02:16] <diepruis> @rag ahhh... I believe that'll do it, unless the problem's not with ACPI
[02:16] <ompaul> Ron__, get the manual for the firewall and use that to help you
[02:16] <Ron__> bt wat is that command?
[02:16] <cafuego> Ron__: There is complete documentation in /usr/share/doc/iptables/html
[02:16] <rag> diepruis: no, no boot, computers with AMD sempron stop on "Starting ACPI services..."
[02:16] <Ron__> hmm..
[02:16] <clem> nbx909: and in KDE :)
[02:16] <bob4444> nbx909: cool
[02:17] <diepruis> @rag you cann also try noapic and / or nolapic
[02:17] <nbx909> i use gnome
[02:17] <nbx909> lol
[02:17] <Ron__> haizz
[02:17] <tiger> PsZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
[02:17] <Ron__> alrite ..
[02:17] <tiger> Snif
[02:17] <clem> I use KDE, but I'm thinking of switching... to Gnome.
[02:17] <cafuego> Ron__: But to start off: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i <external interface> -p tcp --dport -j DNAT --to-destination <ip of postfix server>
[02:17] <cafuego> GRRR!!!!
[02:17] <rag> diepruis: yeah? how to, i dont understand difference between noapic and nolapic
[02:17] <mattb> anyone else having problems using xen on amd64 with edgy?
[02:17] <tiger> NOBODY can help me with postfix ?!!!!
[02:17] <mattb> where problems == xen locks up or reboots when it tries to load the dom0 kernel
[02:18] <Linux101> well downloading Ubuntu 6.06.1 Dapper Drake  -- who uses that in here currently?
[02:18] <Alethes> nobody that knows Edgy Eft is out
[02:18] <Alethes> :D
[02:18] <diepruis> @rag they're just different options, they've worked for me in the past when I have problems booting
[02:18] <clem> tiger: state your problem..
[02:18] <cafuego> Linux101: I use it on a few machines.
[02:18] <tiger> NOBODY can help me with postfix ?!!!! I could in Windows..........but here I dont understand too much
[02:18] <Linux101> eh i was told Edgy Eft is not as Stable
[02:18] <ProN00b> zomg, ubuntu begins to loose its edge
[02:18] <rag> diepruis: ok i try noacpi tomorrow, ok noapic and nolapic
[02:18] <NemesisD> why doesnt anyone host ANYTHING anymore
[02:18] <Alethes> I haven't had any probs at all with edgy
[02:18] <NemesisD> friggn mirrors
[02:18] <diepruis> @rag try noapic first tho
[02:19] <Linux101> maybe ill try Edgy And Dapper then
[02:19] <cafuego> Alethes: I have. Lots.
[02:19] <Alethes> really? like what?
[02:19] <clem> Linux101: there's a few pb with it alright..
[02:19] <rag> diepruis: ok, because, other thing?
[02:19] <deadhobo> Wow, I just entered console and my laptop shut off... :?
[02:19] <Linux101> Cafuego: with what - hardware, Software, Package issues?
[02:19] <ompaul> Linux101, I have said that this is not a chat channel please stick strictly to questions where you get support or give support, general quizzes and opinion are not for here - It is too busy thanks
[02:19] <diepruis> @rag yeah
[02:19] <rag> diepruis: do you have a sempron?
[02:19] <diepruis> @rag nope
[02:19] <riddlebox> can anyone help me with nvidia driver problems?
[02:19] <Alethes> the changes are minimal as far as I can see, but the ones that are made have made my experience nicer
[02:19] <cafuego> Alethes: Not booting at all due to broken initrd, not booting due to not loading sata driver, not starting X due to modprobe.d wrapper script.
[02:19] <rag> diepruis: nope? please explain me
[02:20] <tiger> clem: I try with Evolution mail........ I say SMTP: 127.0.0.1 or 127.0.0.1 and then.........RCPT TO <xxx.yy.zzz> failed: Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
[02:20] <diepruis> @rag no I don't. had similiar problems on another pc and noapic worked for me
[02:20] <rag> diepruis: ok time to sleep
[02:20] <sharperguy> Does ubuntu automatically ajust the clock for daylight savings?
[02:20] <diepruis> @rag bye
[02:20] <cafuego> Alethes: Now I can fix that stuff via an old kernel and manually mouning /  from the initrd image...
[02:20] <clem> tiger: there is no MTA in Ubuntu, you need to install one.
[02:20] <cafuego> Alethes: But I don't see a new user doing that.
[02:20] <diepruis> @sharperguy I think it depends on your timezone
[02:20] <Alethes> cafuego:  true
[02:20] <tiger> clem:MTA ?!!!
[02:20] <Siph0n> just a real quick question, if my card is showing up when i click on the Networking icon, and i can activate it, and the Link button on my card is lit... what does that mean is wrong? :)
[02:20] <Linux101> so i think dapper first then lol
[02:20] <flodine> can someone help please
[02:20] <tiger> clem: what are you talking about ?!!
[02:21] <clem> tiger: you can't use localhost as your SMTP server without an MTA (mail transport agent)
[02:21] <ompaul> tiger, postfix is one sendmail is another
[02:21] <Linux101> if i can find a mirror that works
[02:21] <rag> diepruis: ok yeah , one time i use noacpi and worked for me, here i forget try it...
[02:21] <bimbim> please help me
[02:21] <cafuego> Alethes: besides, Dapper has 3year support, so it's nice stable and supported for beginners :-)
[02:21] <rag> diepruis: bye and thx for your help :)
[02:21] <tiger> clem Ive Axigen
[02:21] <__mikem> ubotu tell bimbim about ask
[02:21] <diepruis> @rag yeah that happens, no problem
[02:21] <clem> Axiwhat ?
[02:21] <Alethes> cafuego:  in all fairness, I'm a pretty good linux candidate, because my requirements are very basic and I don't use any unusual hardware
[02:21] <rag> nbx909: bye and thx for your help :)
[02:21] <tiger> clem Ive Axigen. Could be ?
[02:21] <sharperguy> im in BST at the moment, but if savings goes off, i should be at GMT
[02:21] <tiger> clem: Ive Axigen. Could be ?
[02:21] <nbx909> rag np
[02:21] <clem> tiger: I don't know Axigen...
[02:21] <Alethes> I don't play games, for example
[02:21] <wastrel> !es | tiger
[02:21] <ubotu> tiger: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:21] <bimbim> gpl for router
[02:22] <clem> tiger: There's sendmail or postfix.
[02:22] <tiger> ubotu than
[02:22] <cafuego> Alethes: Wesnoth, Frozen Bubble and Scorched3D are a must!
[02:22] <tiger> ubotu thanxs
[02:22] <ompaul> sharper rebooting takes care of it, if you are on 24/7 then leaving the box on GMT makes more sense
[02:22] <Alethes> hehe
[02:22] <ompaul> sharper from a logging perspective
[02:22] <RhiNo> Can someone PLEASE help me get my wireless card (Linksys WPC54GS Ver. 2) to work with ubuntu 6.10
[02:22] <diepruis> @RhiNo I might be able to help
[02:23] <tiger> clem: Im using postfix!!!
[02:23] <cafuego> RhiNo: does 'lspci' say it's a broadom 43xx?
[02:23] <diepruis> @RhiNo what chipset is it
[02:23] <rag> other things somebody know a project with list config file for all populars applications, list with path config files!!!
[02:23] <RhiNo> can u msg me or help in an other channel so its easier to follow
[02:23] <RhiNo> yes
[02:23] <diepruis> @rhino let cafuego help you, I don't know about that chip
[02:23] <tiger> clem:  how can I know if it is working fine ?
[02:23] <rag> config files path of main configuration of popular applications
[02:23] <clem> tiger: postfix is your MTA then. It will accept SMTP requests and carry your emails.
[02:23] <cafuego> RhiNo: Downlaod & install http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[02:24] <tiger> clem: I think so
[02:24] <clem> tiger: you can telnet on port 25 to see if postfix is listening
[02:24] <cafuego> RhiNo: The bcm43xx driver works for that card (I have a v1.2 of it) but you do need the binary firmware.
[02:24] <tiger> clem: how ? please
[02:24] <atlef> another happy customer, did an upgrade to day, and so far all is good
[02:24] <ComputinChuck> hello
[02:24] <flodine> i sure hate leave ubuntu but i got to get rar to unzip files please help
[02:24] <RhiNo> ok
[02:24] <clem> tiger: telnet localhost 25
[02:24] <__mikem> !rar
[02:24] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:24] <grndslm> what is the edgy-proposed repository used for?
[02:24] <RhiNo> cafuego can u join #RhiNo-Help
[02:24] <rag> config files paths?
[02:24] <tiger> clem: thaxks again!!!
[02:24] <gnomefreak> flodine: install unrar-free
[02:24] <Garcher> .
[02:24] <diepruis> @flodine I think there is an unrar for ubuntu
[02:24] <ComputinChuck> i'm trying to play DVDs with (g)xine and the sound is lagging behind the video
[02:24] <rag> web list for config files path?
[02:25] <rag> web lists for config files path?
[02:25] <flodine> gnomefrea i did still asking for a password
[02:25] <CharonX> Does anyone know if eclipse 3.1.1 is available in any repository? I have a plugin I need to use but its not compatable with eclipse 3.1.2!!
[02:25] <vanRijn_> so...
[02:25] <diepruis> @flodine try "sudo aptitude install unrar-free"
[02:25] <clem> CharonX: which plugin ?
[02:25] <ompaul> !info eclipse dapper
[02:25] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[02:25] <vanRijn_> is it a clean upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[02:25] <vanRijn_> or not recommended?
[02:25] <CharonX> clem, clay database
[02:26] <ompaul> CharonX, you can use newer stuff it appears
[02:26] <__mikem> an ide writen completely in java. Heres an idea, next time just don't write it at all
[02:26] <jrib> vanRijn_: you can upgrade
[02:26] <cafuego> vanRijn_: it sometimes works (mine went horribly wrong)
[02:26] <ompaul> !info eclipse breezy
[02:26] <nbx909> vanRijn_, back up everything and don't count on it
[02:26] <nbx909> lol
[02:26] <ubotu> Package eclipse does not exist in breezy
[02:26] <vanRijn_> lol
[02:26] <nbx909> vanRijn_, i got lucky on my server
[02:26] <vanRijn_> excellent!!!
[02:26] <clem> CharonX: oh, ok. (I used PMD plugin for 3.1 successfully on 3.2, that's why I was asking)
[02:26] <nbx909> vanRijn_, i'm doing a clean install on my desktop in a few days
[02:26] <vanRijn_> well, I'm complicating things even more by the fact that I'm running it on a G4 powerbook
[02:26] <CharonX> I can use the clay database plugin but it will not save anything once I have built my DB
[02:27] <cafuego> vanRijn_: Wrost case scenario you'll need to fix fstab so that it used device file refs and not partition IDs.
[02:27] <atlef> i used this, gksu "update-manager -c"
[02:27] <nbx909> vanRijn_, just make sure you force all the held back packages
[02:27] <vanRijn_> might be worth it to try a suse 10.1 install first and if that doesn't work then go with a clean edgy.
[02:27] <CharonX> Null pointer
[02:27] <NemesisD> can anyone help me with ndiswrapper and my usb network adapter not showing up?
[02:27] <CharonX> !info eclipse breezy
[02:27] <ubotu> Package eclipse does not exist in breezy
[02:27] <foo> Does a dist upgrade work from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 ? Anyone had success?
[02:27] <CharonX> !info eclipse dapper
[02:27] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[02:27] <nbx909> !info xserver-xorg edgy
[02:27] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 164 kB, installed size 584 kB
[02:28] <aSt3raL> any know if there are any amd64 beryl repositories?
[02:28] <ompaul> foo, I did, however do not do it if you added things from non offical sources
[02:28] <aSt3raL> or do i have to compile from source?
[02:28] <grndslm> what is the edgy-proposed repository used for?
[02:28] <NemesisD> my USB network adaptper isn't showing up anywhere but ndiswrapper is showing it as present and the drivers installed
[02:28] <atlef> ompaul : what sources?
[02:28] <dhn_> is it possible to upgrade to Edgy from CD?
[02:29] <cafuego> grndslm: probably stuff that is being proposed for inclusion into edgy
[02:29] <ompaul> atlef, anywhere that was not an offical ubuntu repo
[02:29] <aSt3raL> dhn_: see topic
[02:29] <ompaul> !nickspam
[02:29] <ubotu> changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu can get you removed - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users, the same goes for using noisy away see (/msg ubotu away) for more details "/away reason" sets your client away silently, thanks
[02:29] <Wheelybin> hello there. Is it possible to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[02:29] <atlef> ok
[02:29] <aSt3raL> secret901: yes
[02:29] <cafuego> Wheelybin: sometimes
[02:29] <Wheelybin> IE: without reinstalling from the cd
[02:29] <aSt3raL> any know if there are any amd64 beryl repositories?
[02:29] <secret901> cafuego: I'm trying to install from CD, but getting errors about not being able to execute the shell file
[02:30] <grndslm> cafuego, i thought that the repository was essentially locked down in terms of features....
[02:30] <NemesisD> anyone? ive been screwing around with this for two days and i just need some help
[02:30] <clem> Wheelybin: theorically yes, it should be.
[02:30] <ompaul> !repeat
[02:30] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:30] <cafuego> grndslm: yup
[02:30] <grndslm> so why an edgy-proposed repos?
[02:30] <rick_h> how goes, anyone give me a hint as to how to get gnome to start with with ssh-agent so that I can enter my ssh key passkey on boot?
[02:30] <rick_h> I have ssh-askpass-gnome installed
[02:30] <Wheelybin> clem: Is there a howto on upgrading, like there's a howto from breezy to dapper?
[02:30] <flodine> diepruis still asking me for a password
[02:30] <grndslm> cafuego, i prolly shouldn't add it to my list then, eh?
[02:31] <clem> Wheelybin: yes, the Release Notes
[02:31] <secret901> I typed in "gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" to upgrade to Edgy with the CD but I don't get any confirmation message
[02:31] <gnomefreak> there isnt an edgy-proposed repo yet if there even will be
[02:31] <cafuego> grndslm: well, it probably won't hurt.
[02:31] <atlef> ompaul : like a
[02:31] <Wheelybin> oh! I found it. It's in the topic title. It's easy when you know where to look. Thankyou!
[02:31] <flodine> diepruis never ever seen this before asking for passwords
[02:32] <rixth> Let me get this straight, Edgy inlcudes qt4-designer, but not the version of uic for qt4. That's.... stupid?
[02:32] <grndslm> gnomefreak, it's most definitely on the ubuntuguide, and i've seen it mentioned other places as well
[02:32] <michael__> how do I access my session preferences from failsafe terminal?
[02:32] <atlef> ompaul : like a***matix sources?
[02:32] <hoov> Does anyone know, can I use a desktop cd on an upgrade as well, or must I have an alternate cd?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> grndslm: seeing as edgy was released 3 days ago and all repos have a freeze on them if there is one it doesnt have packages in it
[02:32] <atlef> hoov : it says alternate
[02:32] <ompaul> atlef, that would be one set - you have no guarntee that they will work
[02:33] <gnomefreak> grndslm: ubuntuguide.org isnt official anyway ;)
[02:33] <secret901> how can I upgrade to Edgy with the install CD?
[02:33] <ompaul> atlef, the upgrade is from ubuntu to ubuntu - not ubuntu+random stuff to ubuntu
[02:33] <hoov> I know, but I was just wondering
[02:33] <gnomefreak> !upgrade | secret901
[02:33] <ubotu> secret901: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[02:33] <grndslm> gnomefreak, that's what i figured...just wanted to make it official
[02:33] <variant> River: how did you get on?#
[02:33] <atlef> ompaul : it did work here, but nice to know.
[02:33] <concept10> am I the only that cant start xmms or beep since upgrading ?
[02:33] <hoov> because I upgraded with a desktop cd to dapper
[02:34] <gnomefreak> hoov: you mean fresh install (you cant upgrade with desktop cd)
[02:34] <JethroDawnfine> hello, everybody... could someone help me with my apt-get? I stopped working and I can't find the problem :(
[02:34] <Bacon5o> ok variant...
[02:34] <secret901> what's the "edgy alternate install cd"?  I have the normal install cd, would that work?
[02:34] <jrib> JethroDawnfine: what does it do
[02:34] <Bacon5o> Now I'm really mad =/
[02:35] <hoov> nope, I did an upgrade from within synaptic when dapper came out.  unless I am messing up my terminology here
[02:35] <Bacon5o> great now ubuntu totally !@#$ed my harddrive
[02:35] <clem> JethroDawnfine: try sudo apt-get update and tell us if you get any error message.
[02:35] <secret901> where can I get the "edgy alternate install cd"?
[02:36] <coz_> Bacon5o, how so guy
[02:36] <Bacon5o> someone help me out here
[02:36] <Bacon5o> coz
[02:36] <clem> secret901: ubuntu.com/download
[02:36] <Bacon5o> gee, how can I explain this
[02:36] <michael__> how do I access my session preferences from failsafe terminal?
[02:36] <coz_> Bacon5o, do your best
[02:36] <Bacon5o> ok, coz, I have a secondary slave harddrive with two partitions
[02:36] <JethroDawnfine> I was trying to install samba... but then I tried apt-get update first
[02:36] <Bacon5o> ok?
[02:36] <secret901> is it possible to upgrade with the Desktop CD?
[02:36] <coz_> Bacon5o, ok
[02:36] <jrib> JethroDawnfine: pastebin the output you get
[02:36] <Bacon5o> the labels on these two partitions are F & G
[02:36] <DIL> hey all
[02:37] <coz_> Bacon5o, ok
[02:37] <benkong2> I did the update-manager -c -d from dapper to edgy and now my gnome-theme-manager is crashing on startup every time. Also my windows nhave no close,minimise etc. icons. It's like the title bar is missing any thoughts?
[02:37] <ryanakca> how do I resize an image with "convert"?    convert -resize 2048x1024!/home/ryan/.beryl/skydomes/SpaceC.png  ?
[02:37] <nalioth> Bacon5o: your attitude isn't helping your cause  :)
[02:37] <gnomefreak> benkong2: no -d
[02:37] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, where can I paste it?
[02:37] <nalioth> ryanakca: i use 'mogrify'
[02:37] <jrib> !paste | JethroDawnfine
[02:37] <ubotu> JethroDawnfine: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:37] <benkong2> gnomefreak: ah I took it from the ubuntu pages... wait a sec.
[02:37] <Bacon5o> when I went on to create freespace (using unbuntu's partition program) I separated the F partition by 10gb to be used by unbuntu
[02:37] <gnomefreak> benkong2: but the -d wouldnt cause that
[02:37] <DIL> tried ubuntu on my doze box but cant see docs in "my Folder"
[02:37] <coz_> Bacon5o, ok
[02:37] <Bacon5o> So basically I have 3 viable partitions
[02:38] <jrib> ryanakca: try the imagemagick webiste, they have examples for all the commands
[02:38] <Bacon5o> F/G/3rd partition
[02:38] <coz_> Bacon5o, OK
[02:38] <ryanakca> nalioth: with what options
[02:38] <Bacon5o> I cant even see my F drive
[02:38] <ryanakca> jrib: that's what I'm looking at
[02:38] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, ubotu, here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28976/
[02:38] <Bacon5o> I cant see the unbuntu partition
[02:38] <Bacon5o> but I can see my G:\
[02:38] <gnomefreak> JethroDawnfine: ubotu is a bot
[02:38] <eimajenthat> Is freecontrib.org down?  I don't seem to be able to access it.
[02:38] <nalioth> ryanakca: mogrify -resize X x Y Target.jpg    the target will be resized, so back up any originals
[02:38] <clem> Bacon5o: you mean you can't see your Ubuntu partition in Windows ???
[02:38] <nalioth> eimajenthat: it is.
[02:38] <JethroDawnfine> oops, hehehe
[02:38] <Bacon5o> clem: that would be correct
[02:39] <clem> Bacon5o: did you expect to ?
[02:39] <ryanakca> nalioth: kk, ty
[02:39] <Bacon5o> clem, thats not the thing
[02:39] <coz_> Bacon5o, mm you wont see it in windows
[02:39] <Bacon5o> the partition that I partitioned cannot be seen either
[02:39] <__mikem> its obvious Bacon5o is new to linux based on the fact that he calls drives by [a-z] :\
[02:39] <clem> Bacon5o: the filesystem used by Ubuntu is ext3, Windows only knows how to read FAT and NTFS.
[02:39] <DIL> u cannot see patition from winows
[02:39] <Bacon5o> mikem -> my first ever experience to linux
[02:39] <coz_> thank you clem
[02:39] <Bacon5o> ok clem here's the delimma
[02:39] <clem> Bacon5o: plus, it doesn't see "non-windows" types.
[02:39] <cafuego> Bacon5o: if you open the Admin Tools > Disk manager, does it show 3 partitions on that disk?
[02:40] <secret901> is it possible to upgrade to Edgy using a desktip install CD?
[02:40] <cafuego> Bacon5o: ... irrespective of whaether they have letters assigned...
[02:40] <Bacon5o> the "F" partition was originally in NTFS, and I took 10gb of that "F" drive for the ext3...why cant I see the rest of my F drive that was NTFS?
[02:40] <loki505> my screensaver is choppy when it comes on
[02:40] <loki505> can anybody help me out please
[02:40] <benkong2> the command I used from the ubuntu forums is this.  sudo update-manager -c -d was this incorrect?
[02:40] <DIL> hey guys why cant i see the documents in My Documents.  I can see them form Adiministartion but cant access them
[02:40] <jrib> JethroDawnfine: can you load http://security.ubuntu.com in your browser?
[02:40] <River> variant, could not locate a live CD so downloading 6.10 now
[02:41] <rbil> ryanakca: you might find this script I wrote helpful? http://www.w-3productions.com/cvcs/weblog/archives/2005/02/linux_tip_quick_1.html
[02:41] <clem> Bacon5o: letters can move, they do not accurately define a partition....
[02:41] <michael__> how do I access my session preferences from failsafe terminal?
[02:41] <sanguine> i know there's a tool that allows windows to copy files from a ext2 partition
[02:41] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, got it... I can see an ubuntu folder
[02:41] <coolpaul900> I am having a problem with booting up with the new image
[02:41] <Bacon5o> Well ok, atleast let me get on ubuntu first
[02:41] <Bacon5o> I have it properly installed
[02:42] <seamus7> Is Java Update 9 relatively new?
[02:42] <__mikem> on ext3 filesystems can take up multiple physical volumes
[02:42] <cafuego> Bacon5o: That would be good, ubuntu 8can* see all your partitions properly if they're there.
[02:42] <gypo> which comand line ftp server is the best for beginners?
[02:42] <jrib> JethroDawnfine: try apt-get update again, still getting 401?
[02:42] <clem> Bacon5o: anyhow, if that helps, FAT32 is seen by both Linux and Windows.
[02:42] <Bacon5o> But I also cannot access the internet through ubuntu, even when I have a physical connection (not WIFI)
[02:42] <andresmujica> Bacon5o: are you on windows at this point?
[02:42] <rbil> ryanakca: here's one that will just do one image, not the whole directory like the last script ... http://www.w-3productions.com/cvcs/weblog/archives/2005/02/linux_tip_quick.html
[02:42] <jrib> michael__: what session preferences do you mean?
[02:43] <Bacon5o> andres: yes
[02:43] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, tried again... still the same
[02:43] <jrib> JethroDawnfine: does synaptic let you "reload"?
[02:43] <michael__> jrib, for what loads when i log in
[02:43] <gypo>  which comand line ftp server is the best for beginners?
[02:43] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, it seems like it doesn't even try to connect... the list of errors scroll fast on my screan
[02:43] <jrib> !ftp > gypo
[02:43] <River> variant: how do I register with NickServe ?
[02:43] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, let me try reloading synaptic
[02:43] <grndslm> coolpaul900, are you sure you didn't just drop the ISO onto a data cd, instead of burning it as ISO images are supposed to be written to cds?
[02:43] <ompaul> !register > River
[02:43] <gypo> jrib whats that?
[02:44] <gypo> !ftp
[02:44] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[02:44] <lorca_> what are u doing men
[02:44] <ompaul> River, read the message from ubotu
[02:44] <ryanakca> rbil: kk, ty
[02:44] <River> ompaul: thanks
[02:44] <seamus7> In which directory would Firefox 2 be installed ... I need to configure my JavaRE Update 9 and I need to link to it.
[02:44] <coolpaul900> ya I am sure I did becuase I updated from 6.06
[02:44] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, no, I get the same error with synaptic
[02:44] <gypo>  which comand line ftp server is the best for beginners?--looking for personal prefferences
[02:44] <clem> seamus7: which firefox, locate firefox
[02:44] <jrib> michael__: ~/.gnome2/session
[02:44] <michael__> thanks
[02:45] <coolpaul900> ohh I think you don't understand what I am saying
[02:45] <jrib> JethroDawnfine: weird, I don't know what's going on
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> seamus7: i would use ~/.mozilla
[02:45] <seamus7> clem: firefox2 ... swiftfox2
[02:45] <clem> seamus7: no no :) I mean, use the commands which and locate :)
[02:45] <Zyfo> Where are you "supposed" to put custom installed games apps etc? usr or anywhere else?
[02:45] <Zyfo> somewhere*
[02:45] <wastrel> Zyfo:  /usr/local
[02:46] <andresmujica> bacon: would it be possible to start from the livecd/installer for ubuntu?  so you can give us some info about your partitions?
[02:46] <seamus7> clem: oh lol
[02:46] <clem> seamus7: I don't have firefox.... so I can only tell you how to find it on your box.
[02:46] <wastrel> Zyfo:  or /opt
[02:46] <lorca_> hi girl
[02:46] <manawyddan> hi, guys!
[02:46] <seamus7> admiral_chicago: ok thx
[02:46] <wastrel> Zyfo:  check out the filesystem heirarchy standard
[02:46] <jrib> gypo: try proftpd I guess
[02:46] <DIL> can anyone help me, itried ubuntu for 1sr time - i put it my box that has windows but when i run Ubuntu i cant see my data files on my windows disk
[02:46] <Zyfo> where can I find that wastrel ?
[02:46] <michael__> jrib, I don't have that file
[02:46] <grndslm> coolpaul900, well, what are you saying then?
[02:46] <manawyddan> i'm needing a bit of info.
[02:46] <wastrel> s/heirarchy/hierarchy/
[02:47] <Luxurious> Is it normal for my Ubuntu computer to show the Ubuntu logo and an empty progress bar forever after I ask it to shut down.
[02:47] <wastrel> Zyfo:  google probably knows.  Linux FHS
[02:47] <jrib> michael__: are you checking in ~ of your normal user?
[02:47] <Zyfo> wastrel, ty :)
[02:47] <coolpaul900> when I am booting up and I chose one like ubuntu, kernal 2.6.17-10-386 that is the one I am having problems with
[02:47] <michael__> jrib, yep
[02:47] <jrib> michael__: edgy?
[02:47] <grndslm> DIL, you might need to mount your drive
[02:47] <michael__> yea
[02:47] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, is there any place on ubuntu where I can set up a gateway especially for apt-get? 'Cause it sounds like if apt wasn't even finding network connection to me
[02:47] <michael__> I'm in failsafe term
[02:47] <coolpaul900> I don't have a problem with the old one
[02:48] <coolpaul900> kernal I mean
[02:48] <clem> JethroDawnfine: you mean a proxy ?
[02:48] <jrib> michael__: that file has my session stuff, don't know why you don't have one unless maybe you didn't setup any session stuff
[02:48] <grndslm> coolpaul900, does it give you any error messages?
[02:48] <coolpaul900> no it doesn't
[02:48] <DIL> grndslm: it shows up in administartion when i try to acces it sats i have no permission
[02:48] <michael__> jrib, what??
[02:48] <grndslm> it's just totally blank?
[02:48] <coolpaul900> it gets to savedefault
[02:48] <coolpaul900> boot
[02:48] <Bacon5o> ok
[02:48] <coolpaul900> then stops thinking
[02:48] <Bacon5o> I made it on ubuntu with internet
[02:48] <Bacon5o> I'm so exited
[02:48] <Tim90> Hey guys,can i have a link to all the art and themes for ubuntu
[02:49] <macd> art.ubuntu.com
[02:49] <clem> Bacon5o: you're in Ubuntu now ?
[02:49] <fugitive_> im using Ubuntu6.06. Im trying to install VMWARE Server on it. It is asking for C compiler and says that my PC doesnt have C compiler installed on it. But when In fact I do have "gcc" installed on my PC. How to make the VmWare know that I have gcc installed on my PC. I checked thru find / -name gcc* I can see three different versions of gcc and they are in /usr/bin/, I have typed the gcc location when Vmware was installing but still says that gcc is
[02:49] <fugitive_> not installed how come ?
[02:49] <jrib> michael__: what I mean is, as far as I know, that is the file that contains the session info
[02:49] <Bacon5o> clem: I am on Ubuntu
[02:49] <JethroDawnfine> clem, not a proxy... see, to be connected with my dsl provider, I need to specify a list of dns servers for my eth0 or I can't navigate or use any program...
[02:49] <DIL> grnslm: no the files are there but i cant access them
[02:49] <manawyddan> i've been trying to use the gl(3d) screensavers, but so far no luck, i'm using a ATI Radeon 7500 and the system is the AMD64 version of Ubuntu. Can someone help me, or point the right direction to solve this?
[02:49] <michael__> jrib, aight
[02:49] <Tim90> What you so exited about
[02:49] <JethroDawnfine> I did that, but apt-get is the only one that's not working
[02:49] <grndslm> coolpaul, i'd recommend a fresh install from cd if your /home dir is on a separate partition, like it's supposed to be
[02:49] <jrib> fugitive_: install build-essential
[02:49] <macd> fugitive_, apt-get install build-essentail
[02:49] <Bacon5o> Clem, how was it that I could locate the partitions?
[02:49] <macd> err essential*
[02:50] <clem> Bacon5o: open a terminal and type : sudo fdisk -l
[02:50] <coolpaul900> should i reninstall that kernal?
[02:50] <Bacon5o> ok
[02:50] <coolpaul900> I can still boot up into ubuntu with the old one
[02:50] <fugitive_> jrib: macd: Im getting apt-get install build-essentail
[02:50] <fugitive_> Reading package lists... Done
[02:50] <fugitive_> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:50] <fugitive_> E: Couldn't find package build-essentail
[02:50] <__mikem> clem be sure to give him detailed instructions on using fdisk, you can really f*** things up if you make one wrong move with fdisk
[02:51] <michael__> jrib, I guess the things are loading from ~/.config/autostart
[02:51] <jrib> fugitive_: spell it correctly :)
[02:51] <slinky_> hello, is there any benefit to installing the kubuntu desktop in ubuntu?
[02:51] <fugitive_> oops sorry
[02:51] <clem> __mikem: -l... only listing them so far.
[02:51] <Bacon5o> hmm clem
[02:51] <Bacon5o> interesting
[02:51] <coz_> slinky_, no
[02:51] <Luxurious> Ubuntu Edgy: Is it normal that my computer shows the Ubuntu logo and and empty progress bar and hangs (doesn't shut down) after commanding it to shut down? (restart works fine)
[02:51] <macd> fugitive_, yeah build-essential
[02:51] <macd> I typod
[02:51] <fugitive_> jrib: thank you very much it is installing
[02:51] <MarcN> slinky_: yeah, gives you access to kde applications
[02:51] <fugitive_> thank you macd:
[02:51] <D_Wyatt> how do i reinstall grub?
[02:52] <grndslm> coolpaul900, i don't get many kernel errors...sorry...but a fresh install would prolly do your system some good if your /home dir is on a separate partition
[02:52] <ramen> What do I need to install Amarok, if I have Ubuntu?
[02:52] <D_Wyatt> i overwrote the mbr accedently lol
[02:52] <ramen> And how do i install it?
[02:52] <coz_> Luxurious, no that is not normal but then it may also be your hardware, i would have to se that one
[02:52] <macd> ramen, apt-get install amarok
[02:52] <apokryphos> ramen: one command
[02:52] <Luxurious> coz_: What part of hardware do you suspect is responsible for this?
[02:52] <Bacon5o> -dev/hdb6            4794        4863      562212   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[02:52] <fugitive_> macd: jrib: that was one of the quickest answer I got from IRC. Great work guys.Thx once again
[02:52] <ramen> i don't need any kde libraries or anything?
[02:52] <soyunperdedor> ramen:  sudo apt...   what macd just said,
[02:52] <macd> fugitive_, np.
[02:52] <slinky_> do the KDE applications offer anything more then ubuntu and can you run any KDE application usung only ubuntu?
[02:53] <soyunperdedor> ramen: No.  It'll be fine.
[02:53] <D_Wyatt> how do i reintall grub bootloader using the live cd?
[02:53] <ramen> Thanks.
[02:53] <macd> slinky_, yes they will instlal the kdelibs.
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> slinky_: Kubuntu is the branch of ubuntu that uses KDE
[02:53] <River> variant: I have the live CD, how do I boot to command prompt now ?
[02:53] <clem> Bacon5o: are you familiar with device names in Linux ?
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> and you can run some apps on GNOME in KDE and vice versa
[02:53] <slinky_> will i be able to switch desktops without rebooting
[02:53] <Bacon5o> clem, I am uneducated, I probably shouldn't have done this...I'm such an idiot
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> River: open up a terminal
[02:53] <D_Wyatt> how do i reintall grub bootloader using the live cd?
[02:53] <coz_> Luxurious, i wouldn't know off hand, i would actually have to know yourentire set up do a oittle research and see if any particular part of the system may be hanging.. my system has scsi drives and the boot pocess takeslonger than for most people because of the scsi controller in my system
[02:53] <MarcN> slinky_: KDE is a set of applications, Gnome is another set of applications, a lot of overlap in functionality, some people prefer one over the other.  I usually run gnome, but like the k3b cd burning tool of KDE.
[02:54] <macd> slinky_, if you install kde, but if you just want to run kjde apps in gnome you can also do that
[02:54] <__mikem> slinky_ kde has nothing to do with the actual linux kernel, its just a gui front end.
[02:54] <Tim90> art.ubuntu.com is not very terminal ,any one have any more links
[02:54] <khaije1> hi all, according to my reading edgy is supposed to be 'xen-ready'. does this mean  it is dom0 ready, domU ready, or both? anyone know?
[02:54] <clem> Bacon5o: no no, it's good, that's how you learn.
[02:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Tim90: what are you trying to find?
[02:54] <Luxurious> coz_: It's a clean install, and I've set it up three times always with this same problem.
[02:54] <clem> Bacon5o: all devices are there in /dev/
[02:54] <macd> khaije1, dom0, and you must use the xen-kernel-image
[02:54] <D_Wyatt> how do i reintall grub bootloader using the live cd?
[02:54] <clem> Bacon5o: IDE hard drives are hd devices.
[02:54] <River> admiral_chicago: I am at the live CD boot menu and have start options only, which do I take ?
[02:54] <Bacon5o> correct
[02:54] <coz_> Luxurious, well in my opinion, that points to hardware issues like mine
[02:54] <slinky_> Can i switch between GNOME and KDE without rebooting
[02:55] <macd> slinky_, yes.
[02:55] <clem> Bacon5o: and IDE CDROM as well
[02:55] <joincamp> how do i make flash use oss rather than alsa?  my audio drivers dont support alsa.
[02:55] <coz_> Luxurious, or a bad downloaded imae for the cd
[02:55] <macd> logging out of one, anhd using the session menu to login to the other.
[02:55] <crashzor> slinky_, ctrl alt + backspace
[02:55] <Tim90> last night i found a nice splash screen for ubuntu 6.10.
[02:55] <khaije1> macd: so it's apt-get-able? thats pretty rocking
[02:55] <clem> Bacon5o: in a computer, there are only 2 IDE ports.
[02:55] <coz_> image
[02:55] <Bacon5o> yes
[02:55] <Tim90> Admiral_Chicago:
[02:55] <macd> crashzor, the correct way is to logout first.
[02:55] <slinky_> ok, i'll give it a try then, thank you for the information folks
[02:55] <Zyfo> at linux FHS wiki it says "read-only data" for stuff in usr/, is it still fine to have games which has got file-handling etc (FPS games with demos, configs screenshots etc)
[02:55] <clem> Bacon5o: and on each, a master and a slave device.
[02:55] <crashzor> macd,  Care it works :P
[02:55] <Admiral_Chicago> River: start installer (if it's dapper)
[02:55] <macd> and doesnt save your session settings.
[02:55] <khaije1> macd: iow edgy as domU still needs to be modded?
[02:55] <Tim90> Admiral_Chicago:i thnk the link ended with .org
[02:56] <Bacon5o> my master is 100% NTFS with Windows on it
[02:56] <Tim90> some thing like that
[02:56] <clem> Bacon5o: in Linux, those devices (if present) are hda, hdb, hdc, hdd
[02:56] <macd> khaije1, Im a lil grey in that area to be honest
[02:56] <crashzor> macd, true
[02:56] <River> admiral_chicago: it is edgy 6.10
[02:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Tim90: i have no idea what you're trying to do still
[02:56] <slinky_> Admiral_Chicago: I installed the HP 1018 Laserjet successfully, thanks for your help
[02:56] <Bacon5o> ok clem
[02:56] <Abst> Is there any way to have a computer on my network start up with a  command from my box?
[02:56] <Bacon5o> I think I understand now
[02:56] <Admiral_Chicago> you're trying to find art?
[02:56] <Tim90> i want art work Admiral_Chicago:
[02:56] <macd> Tim90, you want the ubuntu art page?
[02:56] <clem> Bacon5o: hda is master on IDE0, hdb slave on IDE0, hdc master on IDE1, and hdd slave on IDE1
[02:56] <Admiral_Chicago> River: start installer
[02:56] <macd> art.ubuntu.com
[02:56] <Bacon5o> lets focus on my hdb
[02:56] <macd> or gnome-look.org
[02:56] <khaije1> macd: still though dom0 is sorta the tricky part imho, I'd wager it does. I'll do some more reading and let you know
[02:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Tim90: well there is Kdelook.org but you probably want ubuntu art
[02:57] <Luxurious> coz_: This is a Compaq Presario.  I used to have this Compaq Deskpro which had this power button with on/off modes.  In that case Windows would tell me that it was now safe to shut down the computer.  Maybe Ubuntu is mistaking the switch type on this particular model, because prior to showing this screen it runs some progress (with an active progress bar), and the noise from the computer lowers dramatically just before this hanging image shows.
[02:57] <Admiral_Chicago> slinky_: good to hear
[02:57] <macd> great@ khaije1
[02:57] <clem> Bacon5o: then, you can have partitions for each drive... and that's the number suffixing hdb or hdc.. etc.
[02:57] <Garcher> hey does the clean install takes some time to finish, cuz im seeing just a black screen...
[02:57] <Admiral_Chicago> River: start installer
[02:57] <Admiral_Chicago> it's a live/install CD
[02:57] <macd> Luxurious, you can make the power button do whatever you want in power management.
[02:57] <Bacon5o> Yup
[02:57] <clem> Bacon5o: for instance hdb6 is the 6th partition on the slave hard-drive on IDE0.
[02:57] <slinky_> Admiral_Chicago: I will post in the forum what i did to get it to work
[02:58] <Tim90> i will have a look at that to , the one i seen was only for edgy eft and it lookes spectacular
[02:58] <Bacon5o> It seems that I have 5 partitions
[02:58] <Luxurious> macd: Interesting.  Thank you for that macd, I'll be sure to check out if there's some setting that can change this in there.
[02:58] <Tim90> Admiral_Chicago:
[02:58] <Bacon5o> 1-2-3 (skipping 4) 5-6
[02:58] <clem> Bacon5o: each partition has a type, and a filesystem.
[02:58] <aSt3raL> i started an xgl session and it looks no different that gnome.  is there a way to tell if xgl is even running?
[02:58] <Bacon5o> which I never knew I had
[02:58] <DIL> that a lot of partitions
[02:58] <Zyfo> at linux FHS wiki it says "read-only data" for stuff in usr/, is it still fine to have games which has got file-handling etc (FPS games with demos, configs screenshots etc)?
[02:58] <macd> Zyfo, you can mount /usr however you would like
[02:58] <River> variant: are you still on channel ?
[02:58] <clem> Bacon5o: ok, which hard-drive are you interested in ?
[02:59] <Bacon5o> my slave IDE0
[02:59] <Zyfo> macd, ofc, but according to the FPS praxis?
[02:59] <Tim90> Admiral_Chicago:
[02:59] <Luxurious> coz_: This doesn't particularly bother me, and I'm fine with pressing the power button, I just want to be sure that the system has definitely finished all necessary processes it needs to do before I press the button.
[02:59] <Bacon5o> It is a 80GB slave drive
[02:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Tim90: all you are saying is Admiral_Chicago: you aren't writing anything
[02:59] <manawyddan> Is there any configuration needed in Ubuntu for AMD64 to make the GL screensavers work?
[02:59] <clem> Bacon5o: on which IDE port ?
[02:59] <Bacon5o> IDE0
[02:59] <Bacon5o> my harddrives are on IDE0
[02:59] <clem> ok
[02:59] <clem> Bacon5o: so it's /dev/hdb
[02:00] <Bacon5o> correct
[02:00] <Bacon5o> I'm seeing it right now
[02:00] <jmichaelx> would anyone have an idea how to configure mplayer-plugin in firefox to play embedded .wmv video (yahoo news clips, for example) in edgy? i was able to play these videos in dapper, but since upgrading i've had no success.
[02:00] <godtvisken> How come once I updated to firefox 2, it stopped asking me if I wanted to open .rar files with fileroller, and other files with their respective programs?
[02:00] <clem> Bacon5o: "sudo fdisk -l" lists all your partitions for all drives
[02:00] <Bacon5o> yes, that is what I am seeing
[02:00] <clem> Bacon5o: "sudo fdisk -l | grep /dev/hdb" lists only those from hdb, please run that and tell me what you get.
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> Tim90: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=7650419d23dca9cced22bc7c4535b776&t=1940
[02:01] <Luxurious> One strange thing happened to me today... I had this USB key and was plugging it to the back of the computer, but I accidentally hit the plate  that was on the back of the compute (the one with all the ports) with the USB plug, and the computer just powered down.
[02:01] <kober> whats the difference between beryl and compiz?
[02:01] <DIL> ok who is a linux xpert that can assist please
[02:01] <Bacon5o> Ok
[02:01] <macd> kober, beryl is newer
[02:01] <Bacon5o> dev/hdb1               1        3249    26097561    7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> kober: #ubuntu-xgl for more info
[02:01] <kitche> DIL: just ask your question someone will anwser
[02:01] <macd> the beryl-project wiki goes into more detail.
[02:01] <crashzor> how to make a screen dump in xfce4 ???
[02:01] <Bacon5o> that is my first partition
[02:01] <Luxurious> Just ask your question DIL, no individual will take on your problem unless they know what your problem is.
[02:02] <Tim90> hey guys , try http://www.gnome-look.org/
[02:02] <macd> crashzor, you can use import -o from the console
[02:02] <ramen> what is root?
[02:02] <clem> Bacon5o: ok, it's 26Go ?
[02:02] <crashzor> macd, bash: import: command not found
[02:02] <Luxurious> info root
[02:02] <macd> ohhh
[02:02] <macd> I cant believe they took that out
[02:02] <Bacon5o> if blocks = Go then yes
[02:02] <macd> crashzor, does the print screen button work?
[02:02] <macd> !root
[02:02] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:02] <crashzor> macd, no
[02:02] <macd> interesting
[02:02] <crashzor> te command screendump did even work
[02:03] <macd> google+efce+screenshot+howto
[02:03] <macd> xfce*
[02:03] <Bacon5o> dev/hdb2            4794        9729    39648420    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[02:03] <Bacon5o> this makes no sense to me clem...
[02:03] <DIL> i load Ubunto on a seperate HDD on a box that also has XP on a separtate HDD i cannot acees my data files on the xp disk
[02:03] <concept10> Do I need these packages to compile a vanilla kernel ? libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev
[02:03] <bob4444> anyone know how to run eciadsl-config-text in ubuntu, everytime I try it just opens terminal??
[02:03] <Bacon5o> what does "W95 Ext'd (LBA)" have to do with my slave drive?
[02:03] <fugitive_> macd: its asking for What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:03] <fugitive_> kernel?
[02:03] <clem> Bacon5o: yes, let's go through the info. it's called /dev/hdb1 (1st partition on slave IDE0), starts from block 1, ends with block 3249, it's 26Go, type 7 (windows NTFS partition in other words) and the filesystem which is on it is NTFS.
[02:04] <macd> fugitive_, /usr/src/linux
[02:04] <Jefe_AZ> how do I get a non-GUI login?
[02:04] <macd> but you must have linux-kernel-dev and linux-source installed
[02:04] <Bacon5o> I got it clem
[02:04] <Bacon5o> I'm with ya 100%
[02:04] <macd> then youll have to decompress the source bz2 package.
[02:04] <clem> Bacon5o: ok, it's /dev/hdb2 this time, 39Go, and it's type F. The filesystem is FAT32 :)
[02:05] <Bacon5o> Clem that doesn't make sense
[02:05] <JethroDawnfine> clem, just found my problem... it's the gateway indeed... I tried downloading something with wget and got the same 401 unauthorized error
[02:05] <Bacon5o> I dont even see this partition on Windows...
[02:05] <clem> Bacon5o: W95, LBA.. all those silly words really just mean FAT32.
[02:05] <bob4444> anyone know how to run eciadsl-config-text in ubuntu, everytime I try it just opens terminal??
[02:05] <Bacon5o> I only see a 37.5GB NTFS partition on windows
[02:05] <clem> Bacon5o: ok. don't worry.
[02:05] <fugitive_> macd: im getting the same msg. How to find from the command line where the header files r located?
[02:06] <Bacon5o> ok clem...next
[02:06] <GirlRiver> admiral_chicago: I have live CD booted and terminal window open, i now need to re-start the previously interrupted upgrade, how do I do this ?
[02:06] <macd> fugitive_ you need to install them first
[02:06] <Bacon5o> dev/hdb3   *        3250        4793    12402180   83  Linux
[02:06] <Bacon5o> I presume would be the linux ext3 filesystem
[02:06] <fugitive_> macd: do u know wat r they & how?
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> GirlRiver: let me get this right, you want to use the live CD on an update that failed for a computer
[02:07] <clem> Bacon5o: ok. that's probably your Ubuntu partition. Ext3 filesystem, 12Go
[02:07] <Vaske_Car> I deleted Gnome panel by mistake, how do I return it back?
[02:07] <paolob> guys, performing dist-upgrade to edgy removes xserver-xorg, and so the upgraded system doesn't run X. I'm following instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades ... Is there any trick or is it a bug?
[02:07] <Bacon5o> yup, thats how much I set aside for ubuntu
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> why can't you use the one that you were using earlier
[02:07] <macd> fugitive_, yes apt-get install linux-kernel-dev and kernel-source-2.4.27
[02:07] <clem> Bacon5o: any other partitions ?
[02:07] <macd> for dapper.
[02:07] <gypo> !sftp
[02:07] <macd> edgy use your kernel version
[02:07] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[02:07] <Bacon5o> dev/hdb5            4864        9729    39086113+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <jacquesdupontd> can i ask a question ?
[02:07] <jacquesdupontd> im lost
[02:07] <Jefe_AZ> paolob - just do a sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg and reboot
[02:07] <gypo> !ftp
[02:07] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[02:07] <john053> Can ubuntu be installed on xp pc?
[02:08] <Bacon5o> which I think is my "G" drive in terms of windows
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> !ask > jacquesdupontd
[02:08] <bob4444> anyone know how to run eciadsl-config-text in ubuntu, everytime I try it just opens terminal??
[02:08] <clem> Bacon5o: that's another NTFS partition... 39Go.
[02:08] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[02:08] <jacquesdupontd> i have a DWL-G520
[02:08] <jacquesdupontd> just bought for monitor mode
[02:08] <Bacon5o> dev/hdb6            4794        4863      562212   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[02:08] <jacquesdupontd> and i just updated edgy
[02:08] <clem> Bacon5o: that's probably the one you see alright.
[02:08] <jacquesdupontd> and monitor mode doesnt work
[02:08] <Tadeu31> what's up?
[02:08] <gypo> Is there a secure ftp for ubuntu?
[02:08] <GirlRiver> admiral_chicago: in short, yes. Started upgrade from Dapper to Edgy, restart interrupted the upgrade & now won't boot as it is missing /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and maybe others.
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> jacquesdupontd: what is monitor mode?
[02:08] <Bacon5o> You get that last one clem?
[02:08] <jacquesdupontd> huhu
[02:08] <lihaile> who cant tell me
[02:08] <jacquesdupontd> it's in wifi
[02:08] <clem> Bacon5o: and /dev/hdb6 that's your Swap partition, 560Mo ok.
[02:08] <fugitive_> macd: Couldn't find package linux-kernel-dev and Im using 2.6.15-26-386 kernel
[02:08] <ompaul> gyaresu, openssh-server
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> mode monitor
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> to make injection
[02:09] <Bacon5o> yeah thats cool
[02:09] <lihaile> how can i go to the cn ubuntu
[02:09] <AkumAPRIME> ok, so I'm fiddling with my xorg.conf to get these dualmonitors up. My question, refer to http://pastebin.ca/227096  , is what must I  change in here to get my built in left of my external? if I simply switch the two, in line 4, it does not work. Any ideas? Can I use RightOf?
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> to use aircrack airodump and other tools
[02:09] <clem> Bacon5o: ok, you know about swap ?
[02:09] <Tadeu31> ?
[02:09] <lihaile> i fogot the name
[02:09] <paolob> Jefe_AZ, ok, I'm doing it, but I'm surprised that such a bug could pass the various beta... and anyway it wasn't easy for me to understand what was the problem (and I know something of linux)...
[02:09] <macd> fugitive_, use apt-cache search to find the appropriate packages for your system
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> and it was working on dapper but not on edgy
[02:09] <fugitive_> macd : thats the message I got when I tried to install linux-kernel-dev
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> it seems its beacause of edgy
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> and madwifi-ng instead of madiwif
[02:09] <john053> more to point - on toshiba laptop?
[02:09] <Bacon5o> i understand swap in terms of SWAP file for memory assistance
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> madwifi
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> GirlRiver: hmm, i would use the Live Cd to bock up your ~/ and reinstall and update
[02:09] <fugitive_> macd: I will try now
[02:09] <clem> Bacon5o: yes.
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> anybody having an issue ?
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Edgy updates have been ugly
[02:09] <Bacon5o> but my main concern is not seeing my other filesystems, hence FAT32 & the other NTFS
[02:09] <lihaile> join /cnbuntu
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> 5 hours tha i seach
[02:09] <Jefe_AZ> how do I set my install to do a non-GUI login?
[02:10] <clem> Bacon5o: Linux usually uses a different dedicated partition for memory swapping, that your hdb6.
[02:10] <Bacon5o> dev/hdb1               1        3249    26097561    7  HPFS/NTFS <---I cannot see this
[02:10] <A[D] minS> perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:       LANGUAGE = "en_AU:en",
[02:10] <macd> linux-kernel-devel and kernel-source-your-versiob-here @ fugitive_
[02:10] <A[D] minS> how i can check ?
[02:10] <Admiral_Chicago> GirlRiver: let me see if i can look up some more info for you
[02:11] <clem> Bacon5o: let's query each other.
[02:11] <jacquesdupontd> ok i see ;)
[02:11] <A[D] minS> btw it happend after upgrading edgy
[02:11] <GirlRiver> admiral_chicago: variant suggested to restart from Live CD then a cmd prompt BUT he is now off channel
[02:11] <DIL> jacques, i do
[02:11] <Bacon5o> Dont think I understand query in terms of your context clem
[02:11] <GirlRiver> admiral_chicago: thanks for your help
[02:11] <clem> Bacon5o: ok...
[02:12] <clem> Bacon5o: let's join a different channel so, let's say #bacon
[02:12] <Bacon5o> ok sure.
[02:12] <andresmujica> Bacon and Clem, i want to help there...  maybe your windows changed the names of the partitions, i meanf you used your F partition, to put ubuntu on it, really?
[02:12] <A[D] minS> !sources.list
[02:12] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:13] <dxdemetriou> how can I reconfigure another graphic card on edgy?
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> try to update from a terminal
[02:13] <cybergod`> hey... anyone know how the cool cube-like desktop program called?
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> GirlRiver: it may work
[02:13] <macd> dxdemetriou, did you instsall a new one to replace one or added a second?
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> cybergod`: XGL
[02:13] <dxdemetriou> macd, a new one
[02:13] <macd> cybergod`, beryl
[02:14] <cybergod`> which?
[02:14] <macd> dxdemetriou, what sort of card is it?
[02:14] <macd> cybergod`, either.
[02:14] <GirlRiver> admiral_chicago: I think he said to use CHROOT but I don't know how to do that
[02:14] <cybergod`> hehe.. thanks
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> !XGL > cybergod
[02:14] <macd> cybergod`, for edgy refer to http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[02:14] <macd> its kinda the same ;P
[02:15] <dxdemetriou> macd, sorry no the card. I moved from atlon k7 to newer, and now I can't login. In dapper and breezy I hadn't that problem
[02:15] <fugitive_> macd: i have installed the linux-kernel-dev but I cudnt found the  kernel-source for my kernel so Im installing  kernel-source-2.4.27. It should be a problem I guess?
[02:15] <cybergod`> thank you people
[02:15] <Admiral_Chicago> bbl all
[02:15] <dxdemetriou> macd, the older had nvidia, and now I have the onboard
[02:15] <Admiral_Chicago> PM me GirlRiver if you'd like but i'm goig to lay down
[02:15] <macd> fugitive_, it prolly wont work
[02:16] <anuvismh> hola
[02:16] <macd> dxdemetriou, then run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg
[02:16] <lihaile> who can tell me the chinese irc
[02:16] <lihaile> adress
[02:16] <macd> !cn
[02:16] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:16] <lihaile> 
[02:16] <lihaile> ok
[02:16] <lihaile> thx
[02:16] <James> !i810
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <macd> fugitive_, yeah I just notices the edgy kernel sources arent in the repos, which is odd, b/c I have them installed
[02:17] <fugitive_> macd: then how to find the proper  kernel-source for my kernel do I need to any repositories in sources.list and apt-get?
[02:17] <willzzz> anyone got firefox32 to work on edgy?
[02:17] <James> can someone help me get my resolution up to 1024x768 (im having troubles with the i810 driver)
[02:17] <GirlRiver> admiral_chicago: that's ok .. thanks for your help. Enjoy the sleep
[02:17] <fugitive_> macd: but I am using 6.06?
[02:17] <dxdemetriou> macd, I tried, but didn't work. I tried to purge the kernel also
[02:17] <GSGold> Problem: following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto  resulted in an error while verifying sector 557 due to I/O device error.  What can be done about this?
[02:17] <SlackRat> James, have you run xorgconfig?
[02:17] <macd> fugitive_, you can goto kernel.org and download, but youll have to modify version.h in the source tree to make it say your running kernel
[02:17] <fugitive_> macd: does it mean I have the Edgy's Kernel ?
[02:17] <champollion> join
[02:18] <macd> fugitive_, whats your kernel version 'uname -a'
[02:18] <agentcy> SlackRat, yes, reconfiguring xorg and running the 955resolution dont help
[02:18] <Jefe_AZ> can anyone tell me how to disable the gui login in 6.10?
[02:18] <SlackRat> what res you got now?
[02:18] <champollion> hello all
[02:18] <fugitive_> macd:  2.6.15-26-386
[02:18] <DIL> hey champ
[02:18] <retry> awesome
[02:18] <bobbyd> hi
[02:18] <agentcy> SlackRat, it only gives me options for 800x600
[02:18] <champollion> how can i update o ubuntu 5.10 ?
[02:18] <agentcy> the native is 1024x768
[02:18] <hangfire_> is there an IRC channel for ubuntu devs?
[02:18] <retry> I did it..I finally upgraded xubuntu edgy from dapper
[02:18] <bobbyd> can anyone tell me how to downgrade from edgy to dapper?
[02:18] <SlackRat> and have you tried KrandRtray??
[02:19] <agentcy> SlackRat, no, whats that
[02:19] <SlackRat> bobbyd, reinstall dapper
[02:19] <retry> bobbyd, did you backup your dapper installation toa  tarball?
[02:19] <sladen> hangfire_: yes, #ubuntu-devel
[02:19] <bobbyd> retry: no
[02:19] <hangfire_> thx sladen
[02:19] <macd> fugitive_, Im having a bit of a brain fart atm, honestly I cant think of why there is no kernel source for that :/
[02:19] <SlackRat> its a kde tool for resizing your screen and monitor
[02:19] <sladen> hangfire_: it is /not/ a support channle though
[02:19] <champollion> i'd like install php apache mysql
[02:19] <retry> then you need to reinstall dapper from a cd
[02:19] <SlackRat> dunno what the equivalent gnome pkg is
[02:19] <agentcy> hrm bummer
[02:19] <fugitive_> macd: strange isntit?
[02:19] <hangfire_> sladen- I would guess that, I just want to lurk
[02:19] <bobbyd> SlackRat: there's no apt-get way to go back?
[02:20] <macd> fugitive_, very
[02:20] <sharperguy> why is there no ibernate option in edgy?
[02:20] <snake> How do I apply metacity themes?
[02:20] <aleka> I am having trouble getting java runtime environment plugins for firefox to work
[02:20] <aleka> any suggestions?
[02:20] <agentcy> SlackRat, I tried this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281275&highlight=intel+modesetting but Xorg complains about "no modes found on either pipe"
[02:20] <GirlRiver> can someone help me CHROOT to my ubuntu install on HDD from Live CD
[02:20] <macd> sharperguy, try going into login manager and enabling show all option.
[02:20] <snake> How do I apply metacity themes?
[02:20] <macd> GirlRiver, why not just click the install icon?
[02:20] <mjelva> how difficult would it be to create something similar to the feature the grabs info from imdb, but for porn, and grabbing from iafd?
[02:21] <macd> snake, drag the theme into the theme dialog box to install.
[02:21] <champollion> i'd like install php apache mysql
[02:21] <sladen> agentcy: you can try /either/  915resolution  or  xserver-xorg-video-intel  which has the mode setting code
[02:21] <macd> !lamp
[02:21] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[02:21] <champollion> i'd like to install php apache mysql
[02:21] <mjelva> it has absolutely no practical value, but it would be kinda cool
[02:21] <snake> System/Administration/Theme?
[02:21] <Toma-> mjelva: what?
[02:21] <macd> champollion, did you see?
[02:21] <macd> !lamp
[02:21] <sladen> slackrat: you can try /either/  915resolution  or  xserver-xorg-video-intel  which has the mode setting code
[02:21] <agentcy> sladen, it appears xserver-xorg-video-intel would be better
[02:21] <dxdemetriou> how can with apt-get to change my kernel from 386 to k7?
[02:21] <champollion> anyone can help me?
[02:21] <macd> !lamp > champollion
[02:21] <aleka> I am having trouble getting java runtime environment plugins for firefox to work, any helpers ??
[02:21] <champollion> hi
[02:21] <agentcy> sladen, could you help me with that real quick?
[02:21] <GirlRiver> macd, I was upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10 and interutped the upgrade...the HDD unstall won't boot beacause missing /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[02:21] <snake> System/Administration/Theme?
[02:22] <snake> cuz theme is like .xml and it won't take it
[02:22] <champollion> i'm beginner
[02:22] <retry> oh hey macd, I got edgy xubuntu running on my laptop as of about 10 minutes ago
[02:22] <macd> GirlRiver, ahhhh, the forums have a excellent article on that
[02:22] <SlackRat> i suggest googling agentcy and be specific as to system and errors you get while googling....sounds like a pita,  but there might be a bug already on it, thats being worked on
[02:22] <macd> retry, sweet ass
[02:22] <omac> I tried Edgy Eft last night both as a live boot up and installed on hard drive.   I have good news and some little hicks to bring to your attention.
[02:22] <snake> EXCELLENT!
[02:22] <champollion> i never usee linux
[02:22] <champollion> used
[02:22] <cybergod`> stupid question, how do i switch between the languegs i write? like alt-shift in Windows
[02:22] <retry> if people come at you with their xserver bailing...tell them they need to start x with -ignoreABI
[02:22] <champollion> i'm lost
[02:22] <macd> champollion, did you read the link uboto sent you?
[02:22] <GSGold> Problem: following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto  resulted in an error while verifying sector 557 due to I/O device error.  What can be done about this?
[02:23] <macd> nice@ retry
[02:23] <agentcy> what does ignoreABI do?
[02:23] <macd> Ive seen that today actualy
[02:23] <omac> 1)The boot up from the live cd is all good and the claim that it is faster to boot up and shutdown is all true.
[02:23] <champollion> how can do this ?
[02:23] <retry> ABI version mismatch defaults to a fatal error in xort
[02:23] <SlackRat> it ignores ABI, apparently  :P
[02:23] <retry> xorg*
[02:23] <macd> GSGold, try a new blank disc
[02:23] <GirlRiver> macd, have a link ? someone here suggested to boot from lived cd and chroot from terminal window and then continue upgrade using apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:23] <champollion> madc
[02:23] <retry> if you set it to ignore, it'll get on with life instead
[02:23] <snake> FILE FORMAT INVALID!
[02:23] <snake> wtf
[02:23] <macd> GirlRiver, goto the forums and search for chroot from livecd
[02:23] <brenlae> i'm curious, is there a way that i could enable support for video that is played in a window?
[02:23] <macd> snake, then its not a metacity theme ;P
[02:23] <GirlRiver> macd, thanks
[02:23] <brenlae> i have totem-mozilla installed
[02:24] <snake> it is
[02:24] <GSGold> macd: I shall try that as soon as my computer stops freezing up every 10 seconds
[02:24] <cybergod`> people plz, how do i switch between the langues i write.. im a really newbie
[02:24] <macd> did you uncompress it already snake?
[02:24] <sladen> champollion: sudo tasksel   and select "LAMP server"
[02:24] <snake> yes
[02:24] <macd> dont.
[02:24] <retry> other issues I dealth with, I had to completely remove UIM to get all my confs to upgrade nicely (I just reinstalled UIM later)
[02:24] <snake> u sure it's in system/admin/theme
[02:24] <snake> that i gotta put it
[02:24] <brenlae> firefox complains that it's an unkown plugin
[02:24] <macd> drag the compressed theme package into the theme dialoh
[02:24] <brenlae> *unknown
[02:24] <snake> k
[02:24] <macd> dialog*
[02:24] <Plecebo> anyone have any good resources for backing up a remote machine using rsynch,cron, and something like ssh or scp?
[02:24] <coolpaul900> hey I am having problems with the new kernal
[02:24] <sladen> champollion: sudo tasksel   and select "LAMP server"
[02:24] <retry> you HAVE to run dpkg config -a over and over until it finally gets everything
[02:24] <[H] 3b0R> Will fiesty be LTS?
[02:25] <retry> and I also had to run locale-gen manually
[02:25] <snake> IT WORKED
[02:25] <retry> [H] 3b0R, no
[02:25] <macd> retry yeah I had to use aptitude and some dpkg forcing for a upgrade today
[02:25] <retry> LTS is every 4th
[02:25] <macd> snake, of course it did.
[02:25] <snake> thx
[02:25] <rbil> Plecebo: a friend of mine swears by rdiff-backup. I haven't tried it yet.
[02:25] <sladen> macd: you shouldn't need to use forcing
[02:25] <omac> 2)I tried it on a clone dual amd tyan motherboard and it works flawlessly with the live CD.  I tried it on another PC ...HP(hewlett packard) with a Pentium 1.3GHz and nvidia 6600 3d graphics card: It didn't display in any mode(vga or otherwise) from the live cd....that was a little hick of bad news by the way.
[02:25] <macd> sladen, key word, shouldnt
[02:25] <retry> Plecebo, what kind of backup?
[02:25] <Plecebo> rbil: rdiff? does that do it all or just replace the rsync?
[02:25] <retry> full filesystem?
[02:26] <rbil> google it and read. looks pretty good.
[02:26] <macd> rsyns + ssh ftw!
[02:26] <omac> 3)I tried it on a snappy 3.0Ghz Dell with 1GB of memory and 120GB hard drive.  The live CD worked great!!! the sound and graphics cards had no problems.
[02:26] <Plecebo> retry:  i just need to backup a few directorys on the remote machine, I would like differential backup because there is quite a lot of data
[02:26] <retry> then rsync is the way to go
[02:26] <macd> rsync can do differenetial
[02:26] <macd> incremental
[02:26] <macd> whatev.
[02:26] <retry> use rsync -avz -e ssh --delete from to
[02:27] <omac> 4)On the Dell...I installed Edgy Eft with no issues. shutdown and bootup...Impressive!
[02:27] <Plecebo> retry: beyond that i'd like it to be automated and secure (thats why i want scp or ssh)
[02:27] <retry> rsync uses ssh
[02:27] <retry> and you can automate with cron
[02:27] <coolpaul900> can anyone help me I have a problem with the new kernal?
[02:27] <retry> set up a public/private key pair
[02:27] <Toma-> coolpaul900: we can try
[02:27] <coolpaul900> thank you
[02:27] <omac> 5)I discovered some plugins for mozilla are not up and running yet for Edgy Eft.  Flash plugin works.
[02:27] <retry> flash 9 beta works nicely
[02:27] <retry> and is easy to drop in place
[02:27] <Plecebo> retry: cool :) how do i put in the remote macine... like user@remote-macine.TLD:/source
[02:28] <omac> 6)Torbutton plugin for firefox doesn't.
[02:28] <macd> yeah@flash9
[02:28] <Vaske_Car> what is shortcut for terminal?
[02:28] <macd> like untar and cp
[02:28] <Plecebo> retry: got the keypair setup already
[02:28] <ianmacgregor> Vaske_Car: gnome-terminal ?
[02:28] <macd> Vaske_Car, whatever you make it in keyboard shortcuts
[02:28] <Vaske_Car> yes
[02:28] <macd> is there a default shortcut?
[02:28] <Vaske_Car> by default?
[02:28] <SpyNet> i think i changed something about my login screen... since morning, each time i boot i've terminal login screen but before i'd the default ubuntu login screen... how to switch as before please ?
[02:28] <rbil> http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/
[02:28] <retry> plecebo : rsync -avz -e ssh user@remotemachine:/full/path/to/what/i/want/to/backup/ /full/path/to/local/save/point/
[02:28] <retry> --delete is optional
[02:29] <coolpaul900> so why can't I boot up into the new kernal?
[02:29] <newbie1> hey there anyone able to help me please with network manager?
[02:29] <omac> 7)some interim hicks...dvdrip hangs during a rip of a dvd in Edgy Eft...something about the gnomevfs and DBUS connection errors. ;(
[02:29] <macd> SpyNet, try system -- preferences --login
[02:29] <gypo> !ftp
[02:29] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[02:29] <Toma-> CoolBeer: is there an entry for it in grub?
[02:29] <retry> god stop using ftp
[02:29] <Toma-> ahh
[02:29] <retry> sftp is built into sshd
[02:29] <Toma-> coolpaul900: : is there an entry for it in grub?
[02:29] <retry> and you can scp or rsync if you need to
[02:29] <coolpaul900> yes
[02:29] <Toma-> sorry CoolBeer
[02:29] <retry> ftp is like telnet...
[02:29] <macd> silly to use.
[02:30] <macd> ;)
[02:30] <ianmacgregor> I am thinking about installing and using pbuilder but it says that it installs a base system. Can someone tell me what that base system is because I don't have a ton of disk space.
[02:30] <Plecebo> retry: cool thanks for the help i'll give it a shot :)
[02:30] <retry> k
[02:30] <Toma-> coolpaul900: whats the error then?
[02:30] <macd> ianmacgregor, ubuntu-base ?
[02:30] <juanfe> hello all
[02:30] <Lubix> hell ubuntu how is edgy?
[02:30] <ianmacgregor> macd: Is that what it installs?
[02:30] <SpyNet> macd: i don't have login option into system-preference
[02:30] <coolpaul900> it will stop booting after it says savedefault boot
[02:30] <omac> 8)Ok Edgy Eft has in it's repository the video editor "kino", but how come Lives is not part of it yet?
[02:30] <xipietotec> I'm trying to add a theme to usplash (it came in a deb), but it doesn't add itself to usplash-artwork in alternatives, I have the path name, but under each pathname in the usplash-atwork.so in alternatives there's a number
[02:30] <willzzz> arg no flash in 64bit edgy :\
[02:30] <newbie1> I am a new user to using ubuntu. and am stuck getting my internet connection working through my wired network. i have read the help and dont understand using the console. anyon able to help me?
[02:30] <xipietotec> what number should I add/ what does the number mean?
[02:31] <macd> ianmacgregor, yeah its just gonna bootsrtap, 20 megs should be more than enough
[02:31] <macd> SpyNet, are you on dapper or edgy?
[02:31] <SpyNet> macd: dapper
[02:31] <ianmacgregor> macd: 20 Mb? Ahh, I can handle that. Thank you
[02:31] <Toma-> coolpaul900: it doesnt spew out lots of errors? just hangs?
[02:31] <macd> my mistake SpyNet its system -- administration -- login
[02:31] <coolpaul900> no it says that there is no errors
[02:31] <Hajiki> .
[02:31] <|rt|> anyone here have problems with everything locking up trying to play wmv's within firefox with mplayer in edgy
[02:31] <coolpaul900> it just pauses forever
[02:31] <xipietotec> anyone?
[02:32] <Toma-> coolpaul900: well im stumped :(
[02:32] <omac> The "lives" maintainer has an ubuntu dapper package already there for installing.  I haven't tried it in edgy eft.  I am curious why lives is not in the ubuntu repository considering it seems to work well.
[02:32] <dxdemetriou> I can't change my kernel. I just installed the k7 kernet from synaptic, but didn't shown on menu
[02:32] <coolpaul900> the old kernal works though
[02:32] <shinobi2> how do i install xfce desktop?
[02:32] <SpyNet> macd: i don't see this opion yet into system-administration... i'm on dapper
[02:32] <Lubix> egdy rocks m an
[02:32] <juanfe> anyone know how to change my ubuntu hardware database??? I changed my graphics card and I hope to change this in the ubuntu hardware database.
[02:32] <macd> SpyNet, well Im starring at it in dapper.
[02:33] <newbie1> how does this channel work? do i take a number ? im just stuck massively
[02:33] <coolpaul900> but when I am booting up with it it has no splash it does it like command
[02:33] <niles> !moo
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <macd> !cow
[02:33] <agentcy> !oink
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <ianmacgregor> newbie1: Ask a question and someone may answer it
[02:33] <macd> couldnt resist
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <eikenberry> I'm looking for someone who uses a stripped down ubuntu with experience with the edgy update.
[02:33] <sharperguy> !your mother
[02:33] <macd> lol
[02:33] <newbie1>  I am a new user to using ubuntu. and am stuck getting my internet connection working through my wired network. i have read the help and dont understand using the console. anyon able to help me?
[02:33] <capiCrimm> I just upgraded to edgy and now there's a weird screen on boot-up. It reminds me of a graphics card check. Crudely drawn circles and triangles and a bar that loads.?s
[02:33] <capiCrimm> anyone know what it is?
[02:33] <macd> !botabuse > macd
[02:33] <macd> lol
[02:33] <eikenberry> By stripped down I mean a server installation with stuff removed (eg. evms, ppp) along with most of the meta-packages (eg. ubuntu-standard). Then just what I want installed.
[02:34] <omac> For the moment, dvdrip works for me in ubuntu dapper so I'm sticking to dapper until edgy eft's dvdrip doesn't hang.  I'm hoping by that time they will have "lives" in their repository also :)
[02:34] <niles> !nigger
[02:34] <sharperguy> oh soz i though this was #ubuntu-offtopix
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nigger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <macd> omac there is a server cdimage at cdimages.ubuntu.com
[02:34] <xipietotec> I've got 3 usplashes installed (ubuntu, kubuntu, and peace) under them in order in usplash-artwork.so is 10, 55, 0 I want to add another one...but I have no idea what the numbers mean
[02:34] <variant> anyone know if its possible to launce a certain application on a specific workspace?
[02:34] <coolpaul900> What is the difference between old and new kernals? Is there any?
[02:35] <variant> s/launce/launch
[02:35] <Garcher> hey im having a problem... i just dled the 6.10 iso to make a clean install and apparently it froze during the install... right now im seeing just the cursor and a creamy background
[02:35] <macd> CoolBeer, improvements.
[02:35] <macd> errr
[02:35] <macd> coolpaul900, improvements
[02:35] <omac> macd: Why did you tell me about server cdimage?
[02:35] <coolpaul900> like?
[02:35] <jsmidt> Does anybody know how to have beryl start up automaticaly when you log in?
[02:36] <macd> omac, b/c you wanted a base install?
[02:36] <xipietotec> !beryl
[02:36] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[02:36] <capiCrimm> coolpaul900, lots of little stuff
[02:36] <variant> jsmidt: system > preferences > sessions
[02:36] <macd> jsmidt, yes:http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[02:36] <macd> look down at the end.
[02:36] <variant> jsmidt: you can put in there the command
[02:36] <Abst> What is a console command to scan for wireless networks
[02:36] <coolpaul900> if I can boot up with the old kernal does it matter a lot using the new one?
[02:36] <Garcher> help! plz
[02:36] <macd> Its a good practice to leave your normal xsession and have an xgl/beryl session as well
[02:36] <hangfire_> beryl sounds interesting, is that a replacement for X?
[02:36] <coolpaul900> does it change a thing?
[02:36] <capiCrimm> coolpaul900, no
[02:36] <boricua> has anyone tried the new pepperpad 3? i read some negative reviews on the wifi portion of it but other then that i saw one and it looks impresive, i am wondering if its mature to buy????
[02:36] <xipietotec> Abst: sudo iwlist ethX scan
[02:37] <xipietotec> or wlanX scan
[02:37] <coolpaul900> so what is the difference?
[02:37] <macd> Garcher, reboot and start over.
[02:37] <Abst> xipietotec: Thanks
[02:37] <capiCrimm> coolpaul900, yes it changes how stuff works, but if the new one isn't working then just use the old.
[02:37] <Garcher> >.>;
[02:37] <coolpaul900> THANK YOU
[02:37] <eikenberry> variant. devilspie or wmctrl might do what you want.
[02:37] <shinobi2> what was the K-version of synaptic?
[02:37] <newbie1>  I am a new user to using ubuntu. and am stuck getting my internet connection working through my wired network. i have read the help and dont understand using the console. anyon able to help me?
[02:38] <boricua> newbie1: are you using dhcp?
[02:38] <newbie1> yes
[02:38] <boricua> what does ifconfig show
[02:38] <xipietotec> newbie1: what kind of wireless card is it?
[02:38] <capiCrimm> coolpaul900, eventually you may want to upgrade and see if the problems you had are fixed, and it's probably prudent to eventually figure out what was wrong because eventually you will need to upgrade.
[02:38] <macd> I think he said wired.
[02:38] <xipietotec> oh, nevermind =)
[02:38] <boricua> indeed he said wired
[02:38] <variant> eikenberry: excellent, thanks
[02:38] <coolpaul900> why will I need to?
[02:38] <omac> macd: I don't want a base install.  I was simply informing people in this forum that Edgy Eft works well, but dvdrip hangs in edgy eft, and the Edgy Eft live cd has problems with ndvidia 6600 graphics cards.  I was also informing that "lives"(non-linear video editor) rocks and works in ubuntu dapper but it is an external package.  My suggestion is to have "lives" as part of the official ubuntu repositories.  lives works in dapper.  I didn't try i
[02:38] <omac> t in eft.
[02:38] <xipietotec> I would try sudo dhclient eth0
[02:38] <boricua> run system/administration/networking
[02:39] <juanfe> anyone know how to change my data in ubuntu hardware database???
[02:39] <boricua> or from console run sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[02:39] <macd> lives uses non-free packages I think
[02:39] <variant> omac: i tried lives, thought it was a pos tbh :P
[02:39] <eikenberry> No one else runs a stripped down ubuntu?
[02:39] <newbie1> i have downloaded the network manager but i get errrors when trying to install them
[02:39] <capiCrimm> coolpaul900, well, for the same reason people still aren't using version 1.
[02:39] <omac> variant:  what do you use in dapper or eft instead?
[02:39] <newbie1> its a wired cared
[02:39] <variant> omac: nothing
[02:39] <newbie1> its a wired card
[02:39] <coolpaul900> why is that?
[02:40] <xipietotec> if anyone knows what the numbers in usplash-artwork.so mean I'd be very greatful
[02:40] <newbie1> error: dependency is not satisfiable: libc6
[02:40] <variant> newbie1: do you get an ip address automaticaly from your isp or is it static?
[02:40] <omac> variant: hahaha I hope you enjoyed that at my expense :)
[02:40] <variant> omac: :P
[02:40] <coolpaul900> the new kernal I got because I upgraded to edgy eft
[02:40] <newbie1> i get the ip from my router. the router ip is 10.1.1.1
[02:40] <dougsko> eikenberry: i run a headless ubuntu server, and i have a xubuntu machine with fluxbox on it, is that stripped down enough to help?
[02:41] <macd> coolpaul900, are you weighing options why to or not to boot the new kernel?
[02:41] <variant> newbie1: in a terminal type dhclient eth0
[02:41] <boricua> newbie1: can you go to system/administration/networking
[02:41] <newbie1> ok hang on
[02:41] <variant> newbie1: in a terminal type sudo dhclient eth0
[02:41] <coolpaul900> I guess maybe
[02:41] <newbie1> hang on
[02:41] <fugitive_> macd: I have tried apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386, its installing now it shoudl work
[02:41] <macd> coolpaul900, just boot it.
[02:41] <boricua> !networking
[02:41] <macd> fugitive_, nice so there are headers for your kernel at least
[02:41] <capiCrimm> coolpaul900, if the new kernel works, use it.
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <boricua> !eth0
[02:41] <fugitive_> macd: yes
[02:42] <coolpaul900> just boot what for what reason if it does not work
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eth0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <boricua> !dhcp
[02:42] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB
[02:42] <coolpaul900> the new kernal is the problem not the old one
[02:42] <eikenberry> dougsko. Sounds close. You upgraded yet? All the standard stuff says 'install ubuntu-desktop first'... but it seems silly to download/install over 200M worth of stuff just to update.
[02:42] <macd> coolpaul900, if it doesnt work reboot with the old one.
[02:42] <fugitive_> macd: infact I have tried from UbuntuForums
[02:42] <fugitive_> macd: there was a similar post in regards to Vmware Server installation
[02:42] <MugginsM> "write once, run anywhere". "unless that anywhere is eclipse on amd64 edgy".
[02:42] <omac> variant:  I would use kino, but it seems to only use native dv video.  At least with lives I can use .yuv format video....which is the straight input for the theora_encoder standalone.
[02:42] <macd> fugitive_, yeah I had todo the same to install vmware-player
[02:43] <variant> omac: yeah
[02:43] <dougsko> eikenberry: nah, im not gonna upgrade for a while, if at all. but dont worry about the desktop package. you can always just install it later
[02:43] <coolpaul900> I have tried soo many times to use the new one it just does not work
[02:43] <macd> coolpaul900, what error do you get?
[02:43] <coolpaul900> none
[02:43] <variant> omac: kino is great but only one small step to make it usefull to 100x greater number of users
[02:43] <prinker> OTL....
[02:43] <capiCrimm> anyone else get a weird screen at boot after upgrade, like bright CLI colors, and triangles and other graphic-test like stuff?
[02:43] <coolpaul900> that is the problem
[02:43] <prinker>  ..;
[02:43] <macd> coolpaul900, then how does it not work with no error?
[02:43] <coolpaul900> there is none to fix
[02:43] <variant> omac: and they wont do it
[02:43] <macd> coolpaul900, what are yousaying then?
[02:43] <newbie1> variant: i typed dhclient eth0 and i got
[02:43] <macd> coolpaul900, you get no error but it doesnt work, do you get just a black screen?
[02:44] <omac> variant: why are you so sure about this?
[02:44] <variant> omac: about what?
[02:44] <eikenberry> dougsko. As I thought. I'm just planning on doing the aptitude update/dist-upgrade dance I always do with debian. Wish the docs were a little better in this regard.
[02:44] <ompaul> prinker, please don't do that, this channel is an english language channel
[02:44] <xipietotec> MugginsM: I wouldn't consider the amd64 edgy stable personally (unless you're using only the default repos), hopefully Biarch will be finalized in Fiesty
[02:44] <coolpaul900> I get no error and it doesn't work
[02:44] <MugginsM> xipie: yeah, it doesn't seem 100%
[02:44] <newbie1> cant create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases Permission denied
[02:44] <variant> newbie1: use sudo
[02:44] <macd> coolpaul900, do you get a black screen with a blinking cursor?
[02:44] <variant> newbie1: as i said
[02:44] <omac> variant:  that the kino devteam won't provide other native input file format support?
[02:44] <xipietotec> newbie1: use sudo
[02:44] <MugginsM> shame, cos it's about 20% faster for one of the big things I need
[02:44] <coolpaul900> no
[02:44] <variant> newbie1: sudo dhclient eth0
[02:45] <dougsko> eikenberry: do you have any questions about the process?
[02:45] <macd> coolpaul900, then what do you get? just a black screen?
[02:45] <grndslm> coolpaul900...do you have your home directory on a separate partition?
[02:45] <coolpaul900> well not the blank screen
[02:45] <variant> omac: because it has been around for years and i am certain somone must have asked for it
[02:45] <macd> coolpaul900, are youi going to make me pull teeth or are you going to explain it fully?
[02:45] <variant> omac: i am not certain that they wont implement it though, thats just a guess
[02:45] <coolpaul900> I have partitioned the disk becuase I run dual os
[02:45] <omac> variant: ok...you're for real.  You know what you're talking about.
[02:45] <eikenberry> dougsko. Not really... I've updated many a debian boxes. This was just my first time with ubuntu since I decided to give it a try (I first installed ubuntu with a dapper-flight).
[02:45] <variant> omac: lol, what do you mean?
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[02:46] <omac> variant: You're for real as opposed to someone just wanting to flame me :)
[02:46] <agentcy> can anyone help me out here.. I got this error in Xorg using the intel modesetting driver.. I810(0): Mode 1024x768 out of range
[02:46] <variant> omac: I see
[02:46] <xipietotec> anyone know what the numbers mean in usplash-artwork.so?
[02:46] <dougsko> eikenberry: youll be fine then, its the exact same thing
[02:46] <variant> omac: it's the same with gimp, except i know for a fact that the devs for gimp take the name to heart :P
[02:46] <SlackRat> if it werent for flaming, this room would be half empty
[02:46] <variant> some of them anyway
[02:46] <SlackRat> :P
[02:46] <eikenberry> dougsko. Good. Just like to get as much info as process as I can before acting when I can... seemed prudent to ask around a bit. Thanks. :)
[02:47] <dougsko> eikenberry: np
[02:47] <Tim90> every time i run su -p i get authentication failed
[02:47] <coolpaul900> ok it starts the grub loads by asking what kernal I want to boot into I chose the new one it starts doing it like the other one then it just stops thinking
[02:47] <ompaul> !resolution > agentcy
[02:47] <Tim90> !su
[02:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:48] <omac> variant:  gimp's cool and works fine for doing real stuff with it.  It's not hype...gimp works well.
[02:48] <newbie1> variant?
[02:48] <ompaul> agentcy, read the message from the bot ubotu
[02:48] <SpyNet> i think i changed something about my login screen... since morning, each time i boot i've terminal login screen but before i'd the default ubuntu login screen... how to switch as before please ?
[02:48] <macd> coolpaul900, boot with the kernel that works, and reinstall the new kernel.
[02:48] <Tim90> i get it now
[02:48] <ompaul> Tim90, use sudo :-)
[02:48] <coolpaul900> I did that it still didn't work
[02:48] <macd> coolpaul900, the  post a bug on launchpad.
[02:48] <macd> then*
[02:48] <xipietotec> SpyNet: did you edit /boot/grub/ recently?
[02:48] <coolpaul900> how?
[02:49] <macd> goto the website and follow the instructions.
[02:49] <SpyNet> xipietotec, no
[02:49] <macd> !launchpad
[02:49] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[02:49] <ompaul> coolpaul900, go to launchpad.net and then ask in #ubuntu-bugs for help if you get stuck :)
[02:49] <sladen> xipietotec: what numbers?  the version number?
[02:49] <shinobi2> how do i uninstall gnome desktop?  i just installed k desktop
[02:49] <newbie1> ok i typed sudo dhclient eth0 now what?
[02:49] <Tim90> ompaul::-P
[02:49] <sladen> shinobi2: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <variant> shinobi2: apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <omac> variant:  did you do your complete upgrade from dapper to edgy eft yet?  dvdrip has issues to resolve in Edgy Eft(DBUS/gnomevfs errors)
[02:49] <coolpaul900> thanks I will try that
[02:49] <variant> omac: i did it a few months ago
[02:50] <variant> omac: but yes, i am now upto date with the latest release
[02:50] <omac> variant: which means I am going to hold off on Edgy Eft forthe moment.
[02:50] <MugginsM> I feel I should contribute to fixing some of these bugs, but all the ones I've found have been way over my head
[02:50] <sladen> omac: can you file a bug report if there is an issue with dvdrip
[02:50] <xipietotec> sladen: Okay, I've got 3 current installed usplashes, ubuntu, kubuntu, and peace, I installed a 4th, but it didn't add itself to usplash-artwork.so under the 3 in there, there's 3 numbers in order: 10,55,0
[02:50] <ompaul> shinobi2, if you have the room don't bother, you need to examine all the contents of unbuntu-desktop and remove them - messy and a waste of time if you have the room
[02:50] <cipher_nemo> anyone got edgy to work with video acceleration from an old ATI Rage IIc chip? (ie: any ATI chip prior to Radeon) I assume I could use DRI, but it looks like its a 'roll your own' build (no binaries, no packages)?
[02:50] <xipietotec> I want to add the path to the 4th one, but I have no idea what the numbers mean
[02:50] <sladen> xipietotec: they are priorities---which one should be used if you don't select one
[02:51] <newbie1> Can someone please help me with installing network manager/
[02:51] <sladen> !networkmanager
[02:51] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[02:51] <variant> newbie1: apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[02:51] <dooglus> dondelelcaro: OK, I'm going to have to go out for a bit now;  thanks for that Debug::??? setting - I'll try it out when I get back.
[02:51] <ianmacgregor> ompaul: sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove ubuntu-desktop will remove ubuntu-desktop and all the files that it istalled in Edgy
[02:51] <shinobi2> ompaul, something in my gnome desktop is screwed up, i can't fix it.  i think it's gtk or something, evince and all other apts that depend of fonts are messed up
[02:51] <dooglus> or rather... I want to 'grep' through a large binary file for an ascii string and get a charater offset to its position.  can I do that?  or does 'grep' only work on text files?
[02:51] <xipietotec> sladen: Oh, okay, that makes more sense, so If I add the 4th would this priorty be okay, 10,55,56,0?
[02:52] <grndslm> why can't i install flashplugin-nonfree AND flashplayer-mozilla at the same time??  and is libflash-mozplugin even necessary if the nonfree one(s) are installed?
[02:52] <shinobi2> ompaul, so my plan is to uninstall gnome then install it back
[02:52] <sladen> xipietotec: I can't quite see where you would have to type those numbers
[02:52] <ompaul> shinobi2, why on earth?
[02:52] <jrib> grndslm: why would you want both?
[02:52] <sladen> xipietotec: which file is this?  what command are you typing?
[02:52] <omac> I can't, the Eft install was done on a friend's computer and I would have to go to his house to make the bug report with the explicit details.  Essentially bug was with DBUS and gnomevfs while the actual rip was occurring.  the read contents when blazingly fast though.  I was surprised the rip of the specified track failed but yes it did hang...and the error was displayed in the terminal.
[02:52] <xipietotec> sladen: they're right under the path line in usplash-artwork.so in alternatives
[02:52] <shinobi2> ompaul, also ubuntu 6.10's wifi does not work on my desktop.  so i have  to use 6.06
[02:52] <grndslm> jrib....because I don't understand why two options exist in the first place
[02:53] <variant> omac: do it with ssh
[02:53] <shinobi2> ompaul, cause, fonts are screwed up, i can't read anything
[02:53] <ompaul> shinobi2, you can't go backwards
[02:53] <xipietotec> sladen: /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so
[02:53] <jrib> grndslm: I haven't looked at the edgy versions, but nonfree used to grab it from the flash website, while -mozilla actually had the files.  The -nonfree one is the right way to do it
[02:53] <shinobi2> ompaul, fluxbox is fine, kdesktop is fine too, but other apps that depend of gnome-ish fonts are screwed up
[02:53] <xipietotec> oops, wrong one
[02:53] <sladen> xipietotec: are you, for instance, typing   update-alternatives --display usplash-artwork.so
[02:53] <xipietotec> hold on
[02:54] <ompaul> shinobi2, edgy by name and nature :-/
[02:54] <xipietotec> sladen: sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so
[02:54] <shinobi2> ompaul, 6.10 is on a different partition thatn 6.06, i;ll need  to fix 6.10's wifi on my laptop later
[02:54] <grndslm> jrib...so the gpl flash library isn't necessary either then?
[02:54] <jrib> grndslm: no
[02:54] <grndslm> awesome...thanks
[02:54] <sladen> xipietotec: that's a binary file!  It's a compiled program, if you try to edit it you'll break it!
[02:55] <omac> variant: :) I can't this dude is a Windoze lover until I get this dvdrip thing fixed.  We reconnected his Windoze drive back before I left.  If it's any consolation, his 160GB Hard Drive still has Edgy Eft on it, but he's not using it until this dvdrip thing works.  I'm staying on dapper until his works :)
[02:55] <jrib> grndslm: so you know, flash beta9 is out if you are interested
[02:55] <sladen> xipietotec: what are you actually trying to do?
[02:55] <variant> omac: ok :(
[02:55] <shinobi2> ompaul, also i just installed xfce on 6.06, fonts are not displayed correctly.  is that gtk?
[02:55] <ompaul> shinobi2, did you do xubuntu-desktop?
[02:55] <grndslm> jrib...is it stable enough??  I heard that fullscreen still doesn't work for stuff like youtube
[02:55] <RhiNo> cafuego u there?
[02:55] <keithhhh> Im using 6.06 and I went into Alacarte and I made one change and now my entire Applications menu is unaccessable.... Can anyone help??
[02:55] <xipietotec> sladen: I'm trying to get usplash to recognize an installed theme. for some reason it didn't add it to the options
[02:55] <gigiven> i'm looking for democracyplayer
[02:56] <kober> how do you check what resolution you are running at?
[02:56] <sladen> xipietotec: editing binary files is not the way to go...
[02:56] <gigiven> and how to install
[02:56] <jrib> grndslm: does fullscreen work in flash7?  I never even knew the thing existed until I read the release notes for 9beta and saw it didn't have fullscreen
[02:56] <sladen> xipietotec: how did you install this 4th theme ?
[02:56] <xipietotec> sladen: it's this file here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=46645
[02:56] <grndslm> kober... go to System, Preferences, and Screen Resolution
[02:56] <xipietotec> it's in a deb
[02:56] <xipietotec> but the deb err...didn't work right so far as I can tell
[02:56] <kober> grndslm: is there a commandline one?
[02:56] <jrib> grndslm: as to stability, it's as stable as 7 ever was for me
[02:56] <shinobi2> ompaul, no just apt-get install xfce4?  why should i do it again with xubuntu-desktop?
[02:56] <OkinawaSkittles5> i am trying to run ubuntu live cd 6.06 but it keeps hanging up at saving VESA state, i have tried ... pnpbios=off noapic noapic apci=off noacpi  ... does anyone else have any ideas or suggestions
[02:57] <xipietotec> I mean, it's installed but it didn't add it to the options in update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[02:57] <newbie1> i know what network manager does. but everytime i open the package for it. i get Error: Dependency is not Satisfiable: libc6
[02:57] <dabaR> gigiven: /msg ubotu democracyplayer, /msg ubotu universe
[02:57] <omac> variant: There is hope though.  The other feature request was something like dvdshrink (dvd9 to dvd5 tool) which grabs honking huge amounts of extraneous data and resizes/clips/compresses to make it fit on 4.4GB DVD's.   He loves this in windoze and I haven't found anything to replace this either.
[02:57] <grndslm> kober...you can see it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you open it with a text editor such as nano
[02:57] <ompaul> shinobi2, becuase it carries a reasonable set of dependencies
[02:57] <xipietotec> sladen: And that's a binary? I thought .so files were source...not binary?
[02:57] <newbie1> i know what network manager does. but everytime i open the package for it. i get Error: Dependency is not Satisfiable: libc6
[02:57] <Toma-> omac: google "xdvdshrink"
[02:57] <ompaul> shinobi2, ask in #xubuntu for detail if you need it - they are not the same thing
[02:57] <grndslm> jrib, watching youtube videos in fullscreen is pretty much the only reason i envy windows users...but, i will live
[02:58] <Vich> how can I change the allowed resolutions?
[02:58] <Toma-> omac: alternatively, there lots of howtos to get windows dvdshrink running under wine
[02:58] <cartucho> sup people, im having an issue with network-manager and edgy, i have an athero with madwify, i can make it work trough command line, the problem is that my wireless interface does not show up in network manager, any tip ?
[02:58] <Vich> I just got a new monitor
[02:58] <ompaul> grndslm, F112
[02:58] <jrib> !fixres > Vich
[02:58] <ompaul> grndslm, F11 that is
[02:58] <Vich> sorry jrib
[02:58] <keithhhh> Im using 6.06 and I went into Alacarte and I made one change and now my entire Applications menu is unaccessable.... Can anyone help??
[02:58] <Vich> !fixres
[02:58] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:58] <grndslm> ompaul....youtube videos in fullscreen???  that just makes firefox fullscreen, but not the vids
[02:58] <omac> Toma:  ask and my friend shall receive WOW!!! does it work in both dapper and eft?
[02:58] <variant> omac: what, like dvdshrink?
[02:58] <ThinkingMan> I'm having trouble with changes to my xorg.conf file not "sticking" anyone have time to help?
[02:58] <cartucho> sup people, im having an issue with network-manager and edgy, i have an athero with madwify, i can make it work trough command line, the problem is that my wireless interface does not show up in network manager, any tip ?
[02:59] <ompaul> grndslm, so download them and use your player of choice
[02:59] <Toma-> omac: if wine works in eft, then yes. havent tested wine yet! wewt
[02:59] <variant> omac: there is a program for doing that functionality in linux, forget the name of it though
[02:59] <ompaul> !nickspam > condar
[03:00] <newbie1> i know what network manager does. but everytime i open the package for it. i get Error: Dependency is not Satisfiable: libc6
[03:00] <xipietotec> I've generally heard for dvd burning....its best to just do it on a windows machine
[03:00] <ompaul> condar, remove that away notice please
[03:00] <grndslm> ompaul...true, true...i just wish that there weren't so many alternate ways to do things...i wish there were just the right way
[03:00] <ompaul> grndslm, if it works it is right
[03:00] <omac> Toma...as you know wine is windows emulating stuff.  I'm looking for native stuff.  I don't want my friend to run linux to run windows stuff.
[03:00] <gigiven> someone use democracyplayer tv?
[03:00] <sladen> xipietotec: update-alternatives --install /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/FOOBAR.so 60
[03:00] <gigiven> pls
[03:00] <shinobi2> ompaul, ok thank
[03:00] <grndslm> ompaul, heh...i guess you are right again
[03:00] <xipietotec> ompaul: if it works...but its a major pain to make it work...it's not right, its sorta sufficient
[03:00] <Toma-> omac: no prob "http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Xdvdshrink"
[03:01] <dabaR> keithhhh: I think you can reinstall gnome-panel with sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-panel
[03:01] <xipietotec> sladen: w00t....testing that out, thankya =)
[03:01] <shinobi2> hi
[03:01] <ThinkingMan> is there a command I should run to make xorg.conf changes permanent?
[03:01] <keithhhh> dabaR ok thanks wish me luck  ;)
[03:01] <Toma-> omac: if you do the ground work and make the .deb file for your friend, it'll be smooth sailing for all
[03:02] <kitche> ThinkingMan: nope if you editted it by hand just save it
[03:02] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:02] <variant> omac: http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net/
[03:02] <newbie1> please can someone help me... i cant seem to get it to work...
[03:03] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: When I first made changes to the conf file and then logged out/in, they worked, then I rebooted not too long ago and the changes I made in the conf file are still there but no longer work, will dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg fix that?
[03:03] <xipietotec> sladen: worked! thankyou =)
[03:03] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, you set your changes in there - but it depends on what changes you made
[03:03] <omac> Toma:  I'll take a look and give you some feedback in a week or two about your request for a .deb.
[03:04] <ThinkingMan> just configuring my touchpad for horizontal/vertical scrolling
[03:04] <sladen> xipietotec: perhaps it would be best to add that as a comment to that forums post
[03:04] <omac> Toma:  Thank you for the pointer.  You're a gentleman and a scholar.
[03:04] <Toma-> omac: oh, ive got a deb installed
[03:04] <Toma-> omac: :> no prob
[03:04] <omac> toma: using alien?
[03:04] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: correct me if I'm wrong, under section "InputDevice" for Identifier "Synapics Touchpad" I just set HorizScrollDelta to 30 and VertScrollDelta to 30, anything seem wrong there?
[03:05] <Toma-> omac: checkinstall. compiled form source like a silly sausage
[03:05] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, not a touchpad user
[03:05] <mztriz> hey, were is paste bin?
[03:05] <ompaul> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:05] <xipietotec> sladen: doing =)
[03:05] <mztriz> *where
[03:05] <mztriz> thanks.
[03:05] <newbie1> ok i need some help here installing my network. i am pluged straight into my router, the router is providing dhcp support. i cant seeit. i cant get online with it. nothing works. tried installing network manager and it doesnt work
[03:06] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: OK, I understand, lemme preface this with "I'm relatively new to admining my own linux box" so would that type of editing be normal?
[03:06] <OkinawaSkittles5> i am trying to run ubuntu live cd 6.06 but it keeps hanging up at saving VESA state, i have tried ... pnpbios=off noapic noapic apci=off noacpi  ... does anyone else have any ideas or suggestions
[03:06] <dabaR> newbie1: is it wireless?
[03:06] <mztriz> I'm trying to upgrade to edgy, does anyone know what this X11 error is? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28986/
[03:06] <newbie1> no its not its wired...
[03:06] <omac> newbie1:  are you using a wired or wireless router?  Is your router also your modem?  Is it cable or ADSL?
[03:06] <dabaR> newbie1: why the network manager then?
[03:06] <newbie1> yes its also a modem and its adsl.
[03:06] <newbie1> i thoughts thats what i needed/
[03:07] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, I would look at the message I am about to get the bot to send you - see if there is anything in there for you
[03:07] <dabaR> network manager is for wireless.
[03:07] <newbie1> ok sorry
[03:07] <dabaR> newbie1: did you try sudo pppoeconf?
[03:07] <omac> newbie1: pppconfig
[03:07] <newbie1> well i need to get my network working anyways it is
[03:07] <dabaR> newbie1: or is it dhcp for sure?
[03:07] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: thx
[03:07] <newbie1> not yet dabar. ill try it
[03:07] <newbie1> yes it us
[03:07] <fugitive_> macd: finally i installed vmware server. thx for your help anyways
[03:07] <dougsko> mztriz: have you tried doing what it says?
[03:08] <Bacon5o> woot
[03:08] <Bacon5o> hey clem
[03:08] <dabaR> newbie1: then you do not need pppoeconf.
[03:08] <coolpaul900> How do I upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[03:08] <Bacon5o> windows sees the F:\
[03:08] <omac> newbie1:  What are the lights on your modem showing?  how many lights have you got?
[03:08] <mztriz> dougsko, I'm not really sure what to do... wehre should I move the files to?
[03:08] <mztriz> *where
[03:08] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, have a look at the message now
[03:08] <newbie1> 4 port modem/router
[03:08] <dabaR> newbie1: run lspci and ifconfig, and ifconfig eth0 up, and post output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:08] <variant> how hte heck do you change desktop icon size on gnome/ubuntu ?
[03:08] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: looking
[03:08] <cartucho> is someone using network manager and madwifi ?
[03:08] <newbie1> 1 3 4 are all lite. this machine on 3 and laptop on 4
[03:09] <dang`r`us> hi
[03:09] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: "This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists.
[03:09] <dabaR> newbie1: the third command with sudo
[03:09] <coolpaul900> How do I upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[03:09] <nikosapi> Um what is going on with the plf repo? I found this mirror ftp://ftp.easynet.fr/plf/ubuntu/README Is there an alternative?
[03:09] <AlanHaggai> !upgrade
[03:09] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[03:09] <aragorn_elessar> Hi at all!
[03:09] <newbie1> dabar
[03:09] <dang`r`us> just upgraded to edgy, wanted to install libgl1-mesa-dev,got this problem: libgl1-mesa-dev: Depends: mesa-common-dev (= 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3) but 6.5.1+cvs20060824 is to be installed
[03:09] <newbie1> can u please msg me
[03:09] <dougsko> mztriz: not sure, but it probly doesnt matter. maybe just /usr/bin/X11R6 or something. just put it somewhere where youll remember, make the symlink, and retry X
[03:09] <Bacon5o> dabar: can you give me the link to the wiki guide for ubuntu?
[03:09] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, let me look
[03:09] <variant> nikosapi: plf is no more
[03:09] <dang`r`us> what should I do about that?
[03:10] <AlanHaggai> Hi coolpaul900
[03:10] <aragorn_elessar> someone can tell me where is  System  Administration  Disks in edgy?
[03:10] <dabaR> Bacon5o: ask google
[03:10] <rixth> Is there a program that I can point an MP3 and it will fix the length header? I have files that are being reported as 9 minutes, when they are only 4.
[03:10] <coolpaul900> hi
[03:10] <ompaul> ThinkingMan,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[03:10] <omac> newbie1:  is your router/modem a wireless one?  What colors are the your "link", "online" and "power" lights?
[03:10] <phire> Is there any way I can check if all the packages are installed properly?
[03:10] <AlanHaggai> coolpaul900 : did you add the  edgy repositories?
[03:10] <navreet> what the heck happened to my /etc/fstab when I upgraded to edgy?
[03:10] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: heh, just found the same page, thx
[03:10] <coolpaul900> not yet
[03:11] <omac> newbie1:  Are these lights "link", "online" and "power"...solid? or blinking?
[03:11] <AlanHaggai> coolpaul900 : then add it
[03:11] <newbie1> omac: can u please msg me and ill msg you there im getting lost in this channel window
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> navreet, nothing happened to mine
[03:11] <coolpaul900> is that it?
[03:11] <AlanHaggai> yes
[03:11] <tazman> how to open .bin .gz .rpm files
[03:11] <navreet> the UUIDs
[03:11] <nikosapi>  so what if I have packages installed from plf and I want to upgrade?
[03:11] <AlanHaggai> coolpaul900 : paste me your /etc/sources.list file
[03:11] <navreet> wickedpuppy, the UUIDs... check out this post (not by me) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1301131
[03:11] <ompaul> nikosapi, at yor own risk
[03:11] <mztriz> dougsko: how do i move the directory and replace it with a 'symlink' (what is a symlink?)
[03:11] <coolpaul900> how do I know that?
[03:11] <newbie1> power is solid and satus is flashing
[03:12] <henke> I did edgy clean install, got 104 sec boot time (bootchart) compared to 75 in dapper.  is that common
[03:12] <variant> does anyone know how to change the size of the desktop icons please?
[03:12] <RhiNo> i go to install something and i get the message
[03:12] <ompaul> nikosapi, get yourself a backup first
[03:12] <newbie1> cause im using it for this pc as welll
[03:12] <marianom> hi there
[03:12] <nikosapi> is it possible with apt to uninstall all packages from a certain repo?
[03:12] <RhiNo> "only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time"
[03:12] <BetaCookies> hmm
[03:12] <shinobi2> hi ompaul !!!
[03:12] <RhiNo> how do i find out or close whatever else is running
[03:12] <wickedpuppy> navreet, if not you then why worry ? my /etc is tarred and zipped ... i have nothing to worry from changing config files
[03:12] <variant> henke: no, i would say that was somthing being broken.. my pos old ocmputer boots in about 19 seconds
[03:12] <newbie1> omac?
[03:12] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: after reading through there and attempting to install gsynaptics I get an error saying that I have to have 'SHMConfig' to true in xorg.conf to use gysnaptics, is this save?  (and if so, how do I go about setting it?)
[03:12] <tazman> mp3 downloader
[03:13] <AlanHaggai> coolpaul900 : can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[03:13] <shinobi2> /close
[03:13] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, I said already I am not a touchpad user - I don't know
[03:13] <navreet> wickedpuppy, heh, I should've upgraded first... then added my new hdd
[03:13] <variant> is it even possible to change the size of desktop icons with gnome?
[03:13] <AlanHaggai> coolpaul900 : and send the link to me
[03:13] <RhiNo> i go to install something and i get the message "only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time" how do i close whatever else is running?
[03:13] <coolpaul900> what is that?
[03:13] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: sorry, i wasn't sure if SHMConfig is touchpad specific
[03:13] <dabaR> newbie1: I told you what to do.
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> navreet, you should have backed up /etc ...
[03:13] <strabes> variant: yes right click on the icon and hit stretch icon
[03:13] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, most likely
[03:13] <AlanHaggai> try this coolpaul900
[03:13] <coolpaul900> sorry I am a newbie
[03:13] <henke> variant: ok. I'm on centrino @ 1.73
[03:13] <variant> strabes: i want to set hte default for all of them
[03:13] <OkinawaSkittles5> i am trying to run ubuntu live cd 6.06 but it keeps hanging up at saving VESA state, i have tried ... pnpbios=off noapic noapic apci=off noacpi  ... does anyone else have any ideas or suggestions
[03:13] <navreet> wickedpuppy, basically, it's supposed to help out if you switch how you connect your disks
[03:13] <variant> henke: much better than my celeron and 196mb ram
[03:13] <mztriz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28986/
[03:14] <strabes> variant: oh check in gconf-editor in apps/nautilus for something
[03:14] <AlanHaggai> coolpaul900 : type this at a terminal: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:14] <omac> newbie1: I started a private chat with you...but you aren't answering.
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> navreet, whats supposed to help out ?
[03:14] <AlanHaggai> coolpaul900 : and then paste it in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and send me the link
[03:14] <navreet> wickedpuppy, no, the program should've done that for me... and I do have a backup, but I want to make sure that whatever is reading fstab isn't expecting UUIDs, and there's no guarantee that my old config file will work (but I think it still should)
[03:14] <variant> omac: he is not registerd on freenode so he cant answer
[03:14] <navreet> wickedpuppy, the UUIDs in /etc/fstab
[03:14] <henke> I'll see if I can throw a bootchart screendump link
[03:14] <tazman> hello
[03:14] <dougsko> mztriz: well, you move it with the "mv" command. and you creat a symlink with the "ln" command. you want a soft link, so youd use the -s options switch
[03:14] <ThinkingMan> other question, there are a whole bunch of InputDevice sections in my xorg.conf file for wacom devices, yet I own none of these devices, is it OK to delete those sections?
[03:14] <xipietotec> does anyone know if the error in initramfs has been fixed yet (edgy)?
[03:15] <dabaR> mztriz: what part of that do you not understand?
[03:15] <dougsko> mztriz: man ln, man mv, and google can guide you further
[03:15] <RhiNo> i go to install something and i get the message "only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time" how do i close whatever else is running?
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> navreet, why make it so complicated ??????? i never think of such things when i do upgrade ... if i don't like whatever thats new i restore my backup file
[03:16] <BetaCookies> how can i reinstall the bootloader? grub didnt get installed.. the windows bootloader is still there.. I have a windows disk, then I have ubuntu on a separate disk. The windows is SATA, the ubuntu disk is PATA (aka IDE)
[03:16] <dabaR> omac: you gotta be registered, and him too
[03:16] <dabaR> he too?
[03:16] <xipietotec> RhiNo: system --> system monitor make sure you do not have synaptic or "add remove" running if you're trying to update via command line
[03:16] <variant> strabes: nope, cant do it in gconf either
[03:16] <xipietotec> also you cannot run the add remove and synaptic at the same time
[03:16] <RhiNo> k ty
[03:16] <AkumAPRIME> anyone here knowledgable about dualview xinerama ??
[03:17] <dabaR> AkumAPRIME: that is a stupid form of question...
[03:17] <SlackRat> k, so let me see if i got this right....if i want a stable working system till the next stable (non bleeding edge system) ubuntu, i keep running dapper till sometime next year?
[03:17] <dabaR> Didn't you read !anyone ever?
[03:17] <AkumAPRIME> dabar: is that a yes?
[03:17] <newbie1> ive dcc chatted you omac
[03:18] <navreet> wickedpuppy, nm... so apparently, my /etc/fstab is correct (even with the UUIDs), but they didn't automount :(
[03:18] <AkumAPRIME> because thats a stupid form of yes
[03:18] <dang`r`us> SlackRat, the current stable is edgy eft
[03:18] <dabaR> AkumAPRIME: no, it means ask your question, and see whether someone is along the way...
[03:18] <highneko> a=`echo "esxdefcgurttiynugi odpehaddslfyg hvjikrgudsx c.d.r.t" | sed 's/\(.\)./\1/g'`; for ((i=0;i<=100;i+=1)); do echo "$i% $a"; sleep .05; done; echo "thank you"
[03:18] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, they do nothing unless you have the hardware so I would not bother touching them
[03:18] <nrdb> Hi, I am thinking of making a PIC micro project, is there an open source PIC C compiler available?
[03:18] <AkumAPRIME> I asked my question, and if someone answers it, I'll continue
[03:18] <coolpaul900>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28989/
[03:18] <SlackRat> i thought edgy is the current edgy release?
[03:18] <AkumAPRIME> Ive asked it  several times today, no need for me to reype it if noone know wtf I'm talking about
[03:18] <coolpaul900> the only problem is this computer I updated allready
[03:18] <newbie1> omec?
[03:18] <newbie1> omac?
[03:18] <ompaul> !language
[03:18] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:19] <AlanHaggai> updated already???
[03:19] <dang`r`us> SlackRat, edgy is not a qualifier for ubuntu releases, it's a part of the current stable's name
[03:19] <coolpaul900> well I mean on this computer
[03:20] <Garcher> meh
[03:20] <Garcher> my boot cd doesnt work...
[03:20] <AlanHaggai> coolpaul900 : yes the file is alright
[03:20] <Remy`> Hello, I'm having problems with the screen resolution on Ubuntu 6.10, it's only showing 480x600 and 600x800, when I'm positive my monitor supports higher resolutions.
[03:20] <SlackRat> of course the name is a quantifier, according to shuttleworth anyways
[03:20] <ompaul> !fixres > Remy`
[03:20] <Remy`> Thanks
[03:20] <Remy`> !fixres
[03:20] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:20] <wickedpuppy> ?
[03:21] <NickGarvey> !java
[03:21] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:21] <wickedpuppy> Remy`, you should have ubotu messaging you the exact same thing
[03:21] <ompaul> Remy`, the bot sent you that as a message, it would be preferred if you read that :) that is what the !fact>user is about
[03:21] <SlackRat> i m not convinced that an enterprise solution using ubuntu should upgrade to edgy....
[03:21] <AlanHaggai> coolpaul900 : type this in a terminal: gksu "update-manager -c"
[03:21] <ompaul> SlackRat, it should not
[03:21] <Garcher> lol
[03:21] <Remy`> Sorry, I didn't know how that command worked.
[03:21] <MugginsM> enterprise shouldn't upgrade to *anything* without testing it thoroughly for a few weeks
[03:21] <ompaul> SlackRat, dapper is LTS and enterprise
[03:21] <SlackRat> thanks ompaul, that was my basic enquiry
[03:21] <Remy`> The guide is written for 6.06, will it work with 6.10?
[03:22] <variant> strabes: found it, it is tied to the size of icons in the nautilus window, which is stupid
[03:22] <ompaul> Remy`, in most cases
[03:22] <SlackRat> so the next upgrade is when another LTS is released, right?
[03:22] <Remy`> ompaul, thanks, I'll get to trying it.
[03:22] <strabes> variant: that's because the desktop is pretty much one big nautilus window - nautilus controls the desktop
[03:22] <Garcher> so did anyone found a way to fix the usplash error in edgy?
[03:22] <strabes> variant: you can turn that off though
[03:22] <variant> strabes: I know that, but it is still very silly
[03:22] <strabes> Garcher: what usplash error?
[03:22] <dabaR> Garcher: which one is that?
[03:22] <dabaR> strabes: ;)
[03:22] <ompaul> SlackRat, no there will be few six montly updated versions with 18months support on the way then the next LTS
[03:22] <strabes> variant: yeah i know - it shouldnt control it
[03:23] <strabes> dabaRwhat?
[03:23] <strabes> dabaR: what?
[03:23] <strabes> oh
[03:23] <Garcher> the one where it doesnt appear when you boot
[03:23] <insane_awmn> hello room
[03:23] <ompaul> !nickspam > fildo
[03:23] <strabes> Garcher: oh i havent had that problem
[03:23] <dabaR> Garcher: and you tried what?
[03:23] <Garcher> some vga shit
[03:23] <henke> really bad boot time, I'm at 2 in a 1-10 edgy noob; tip for where should I start look for error? bootchart - http://www.leotec.se/edgy/edgy-20061029-5.png
[03:23] <ompaul> !language
[03:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:23] <AlanHaggai> for me to upgrade, which are the essential repositories?
[03:23] <SlackRat> good point MugginsM.. .  :P
[03:24] <insane_awmn> I run a Battlefield 2 dedicated server, following the instructions of this . But the game at my desktop pc does not find it?.can someone help me to find out what happening ??
[03:24] <dabaR> Garcher: and sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash?
[03:24] <Garcher> oops
[03:24] <Garcher> nope
[03:24] <fildo> ompaul: its psybnc being a bitch
[03:24] <dang`r`us> any known problems with mesa-common-dev in edgy?
[03:24] <tiger_it> dabaR can I ask U somethig ?
[03:24] <SlackRat> dang, we could be talking a year and a half or so, till the next LTS??
[03:24] <dabaR> tiger_it: no
[03:25] <Bacon5o> I was wondering how I could uninstall ubuntu and return my certain partition back to a FAT32?
[03:25] <dang`r`us> SlackRat, no idea when the next LTS will be out
[03:25] <MugginsM> I suspect they'll do another LTS when they feel what they've got is a big enough step over the last one, and when what they've got is relatively stable anyway :)
[03:25] <david__> I have this line in my  "fstab /dev/hda1	/media/hda1	ntfs	defaults,user	0	1" its mounted ok, but i can't look at it unless a do "su" can someone help me?
[03:26] <BetaCookies> how can i determine my X.org version?
[03:26] <apokryphos> Beta_M: dpkg -l|grep -i xorg
[03:26] <tiger_it> dabaR you R antipatic. U know ?
[03:26] <MugginsM> Edgy is nice, but for enterprise setups, I don't see anything that makes it a must have over dapper
[03:26] <SlackRat> ah well, maybe next fall then <crosses fingers>
[03:26] <AlanHaggai> for me to upgrade, which are the essential repositories?
[03:26] <dabaR> david__: replace defaults,user with umask=0222
[03:26] <ompaul> fildo, I don't see anything and please mind your langauge - if you have someone abusing you in a pm then you have two choices (A) complain to an op where you and that person is or (B) go find a freenode staffer
[03:26] <SlackRat> and i imagine alot of dapper will be upgrading as well
[03:26] <apokryphos> AlanHaggai: if you're upgrading please follow the guide
[03:26] <david__> thanx
[03:27] <dabaR> tiger_it: thanks!
[03:27] <fildo> ompaul: lets
[03:27] <tiger_it> dabar you r welcome!
[03:27] <Garcher> one other Qs... on the Terminal it just appears the $ sign, is that ok?
[03:27] <dabaR> Garcher: for who?
[03:27] <ompaul> fildo, msg me if you have a specific complaint that is #ubuntu related
[03:28] <mamonassassina> hello everyone,how's aMSN on edgy?
[03:28] <dabaR> or is it whom?
[03:28] <Garcher> for me
[03:28] <t0ny-p40> I'm trying to downgrade mysql to 4.1 but I get this error  Aborting downgrade from (at least) 5.0 to 4.1.
[03:28] <t0ny-p40> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-4.1_4.1.15-1ubuntu5_i386.deb (--install):
[03:28] <cybergod`> hey everyone, some can tell me from where i configure the "switch languege" button? (or what the fuck is it)?
[03:28] <tiger_it> mamonassassina: Kopete is better!!
[03:28] <t0ny-p40> How do I make it go?
[03:28] <dabaR> you are asking is whether something is OK for you?
[03:28] <mamonassassina> its kinda unstable,it won't run with xgl for example.
[03:28] <Garcher> yeah
[03:28] <LjL> !language | cybergod`
[03:28] <ubotu> cybergod`: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:28] <ompaul> cybergod`, please mind your language
[03:28] <mamonassassina> so i want to know if it runs ok on edgy
[03:28] <cybergod`> sorryyyy
[03:29] <fildo> ompaul: why would i msg you, when infact you are that specific prob
[03:29] <fildo> ompaul: unfortunately there isnt a rm -rf for you
[03:29] <t0ny-p40> any know how to get apt-get or dpkg to force downgrade?
[03:29] <cybergod`> ljl: sorry im a newbie, what?
[03:30] <Garcher> you know it used to be like this:
[03:30] <Nuked> how weird is this. After upgrading from dapper to edgy cups no longer recognizes any of my printers connected via usb
[03:30] <Garcher> http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2005/10/25/vmplayer-ubuntu-terminal.png
[03:30] <Fireal> hey everyone,I have a small partition on my primary HD in FAT32, how can I "see" it?  (Like if it is hda3 or hda4 etc.)
[03:30] <Garcher> now its just the $ sign..
[03:30] <tiger_it> t0ny-p40:  why do not uninstall and then re-install
[03:30] <tiger_it> ?
[03:30] <Fireal> trying to mount it
[03:30] <SlackRat> Garcher, whats wrong with that?
[03:30] <t0ny-p40> Fireal: try sudo fdisl -l /dev/hda
[03:30] <SlackRat> some terms do that....
[03:30] <t0ny-p40> toger_it I did.
[03:31] <t0ny-p40> Nothing mysql on my system right now
[03:31] <Garcher> oh ok..
[03:31] <mamonassassina> tiger_it: does Kopete have webcam support?what about custom emoticons?
[03:31] <Fireal> fdisl command not found
[03:31] <mamonassassina> tiger_it: if it has audio conversation support,i'm moving to it now :P
[03:31] <Fireal> fdisk?
[03:31] <SlackRat> i think an xfce terminal does that.....
[03:31] <t0ny-p40> oops fdisk
[03:31] <Nuked> Why wouldnt cups recognize my printers
[03:31] <LjL> cybergod`: nothing, just on this channel we'd like you to keep to a "nice" language
[03:31] <Fireal> tOny: thanks
[03:31] <t0ny-p40> That will list your partitions
[03:31] <thin> is there a quick/easy/n00bFriendly method to install the latest flash player?
[03:31] <cybergod`> how do i switch between languge in ubuntu?
[03:32] <dabaR> Garcher: what is in your /etc/profile?
[03:32] <tiger_it> Fireal:  /dev/hda3	/media/fat32	vfat	iocharset=utf8,auto,rw,user,exec,umask=000 0 0
[03:32] <Fireal> is -l for "long" description?
[03:32] <everamzah> does anyone here use k3b to burn their cds with 6.10??
[03:32] <t0ny-p40> list
[03:32] <tiger_it> Fireal:  /dev/hda3 /media/fat32 vfat iocharset=utf8,auto,rw,user,exec,umask=000 0 0
[03:32] <t0ny-p40> I think
[03:32] <grndslm> evermezah, of course
[03:33] <Nuked> dabaR, any Idea why cups is no longer recognizing my usb printers
[03:33] <tiger_it>  iocharset=utf8 and umask=000 are important features
[03:33] <LjL> cybergod`: if you mean keyboard layout, i think there is an applet (i.e. right click on the panel, add applet, and find it somewhere) - can't say precisely because i use kde, not gnome
[03:33] <everamzah> hmm, okay, i wasn't sure if gnome's volume management (or some system) blocked it, cause i had a failure. alas, i will try once more
[03:33] <everamzah> ;)
[03:33] <thin> ?
[03:33] <henke> clean install edgy, but 104 sec boot (dapper @ ~80) what might be broken? http://www.leotec.se/edgy/edgy-20061029-5.png
[03:33] <Fireal> tiger_it:  thanks, and uh wow that's quite a command.
[03:33] <adele> hi
[03:34] <Garcher> hey guys it worked, the usplash returned!!
[03:34] <tiger_it> Fireal:  you should add it in /etc/fstab
[03:34] <cybergod`> ljl: i mean, after i installed the applet how do i switch between the language(whats the short cut)
[03:34] <InvisiblePinkUni> where do all the emacs plugins go in ubuntu?
[03:34] <godmachine81> !artwork
[03:34] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:34] <Code-E> Hi im trying to do make on a game i downloaded. I already did ./configure and now im getting the error on: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28992/
[03:34] <tiger_it> Fireal:  gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[03:34] <dabaR> Nuked: Well, what did you change? did you try reconfiguring it?
[03:34] <godmachine81> !wallpapers
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wallpapers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <wrabbit^> hi everybody.  Is the "no sound when I upgrade to edgy" a common problem in here?
[03:34] <LjL> cybergod`: i don't know :\
[03:34] <dabaR> Garcher: why did it return?
[03:34] <Fireal> tiger_it: so it will mount auto every boot?
[03:34] <godmachine81> whats that other site thats like deviantart.com
[03:34] <adele> any ATI x1800 users here?
[03:35] <cybergod`> ljl:  k thanks anyway man
[03:35] <dabaR> Garcher: great
[03:35] <MugginsM> henke: looks like it's spending a lot of time detecting devices for some reason
[03:35] <tiger_it> Fireal:  yes!! auto-mount!!
[03:35] <MugginsM> henke: 'fraid I don't know much more than that
[03:35] <Fireal> tiger_it: thanks will give it a enthusiastic newbie try!
[03:35] <ompaul> MugginsM, did it check a partition on the drive, or have a problem getting the network connection
[03:35] <henke> MugginsM: ok, thanks. modprobe - can I manually set hw?
[03:35] <Fireal> an enthusiastic
[03:35] <Garcher> thanks dabaR!
[03:35] <tiger_it> Fireal:  U R welcome!
[03:35] <wrabbit^> I'd really appreciate it if I could get a little help.  The Ubuntu forums don't seem to have the answer
[03:36] <godmachine81> wrabbit^:: i might can help you
[03:36] <godmachine81> do you not have any sound period? or just certain apps?
[03:36] <Eric> Hey im havin issues installing this file it says "Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time" and i went into system monitor and didnt see "update manager", "aptitude" or "synaptic" running
[03:36] <Eric> what should i do
[03:36] <Nuked> dabar I didnt change anything. How would I reconfigure if the only printer types im allowed to choose from are those via samba ?
[03:36] <Code-E> Can anybody help me?
[03:36] <wrabbit^> godmachine81, My friend has no sound after upgrading to edgy.  What are some basic things I can do to work out the problem?
[03:37] <ompaul> Eric, easy answer reboot, hard answer find the synaptic that is open and close it or use it
[03:37] <tiger_it> dabaR:  I;ve no problem with anyone....... so... can I know WHY R U so bad with me ? is for my poor english ? or because Ive 3 days in Linux ?
[03:37] <Eric> idk how to find it
[03:37] <Eric> i did reboot and it was still doing that
[03:37] <godmachine81> wrabbit^:: make sure the sound module got loaded:  do lspci |grep -i audio   see what kind of sound device they have.. do lsmod and look for the appropriate module being loaded
[03:38] <tiger_it> dabaR:  Im an aprentice!! I need advises from people who knows more...
[03:38] <MugginsM> wrabbit: also something that got me with sound once was it set all the volumes to zero, so sound was working it was just silent. Check the mixer
[03:38] <Eric> any suggestions?
[03:38] <wrabbit^> godmachine81: Thank you.  He's not here at the moment so I've gotta write a few things down to take back.  Anything else I can try?
[03:38] <ompaul> Eric, are you the only admin on the box?
[03:39] <Eric> yes
[03:39] <tiger_it> MugginsM: apt-get install kmix
[03:39] <Code-E> Is there nobody that can help me with my problem I stated above
[03:39] <ArrenLex> wrabbit^: sound problems? Make him run "amixer" and send the output to us.
[03:39] <SlackRat> run alsa.conf if you wanna run sound thru alsa
[03:39] <godmachine81> wrabbit^:: yea you will need to check to make sure that alsa is running, you can do sudo /etc/init.d/alsasound restart  are you on regular Ubuntu (gnome) ?
[03:39] <wrabbit^> MugginsM, sounds simple enough to work ;) I'll try that too.
[03:39] <AgentCy> !update
[03:39] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[03:39] <wrabbit^> ArrenLex: Thanks
[03:39] <cartucho> anyone get fglrx drivers working properly ?
[03:39] <SlackRat> check control center settings if in kde, dunno about gnome
[03:39] <ompaul> wrabbit^, put the data in paste.ubuntu-nl.org not in the channel :)
[03:39] <baggio1000000> hi guys. anyone else besides me lose alot of wifi signal strength when switching to edgy?
[03:40] <Eric> ompaul i am the only user on the system and i only use it
[03:40] <tiger_it> dabaR:  Im talkling U.......
[03:40] <wrabbit^> godmachine81: I think so
[03:40] <davidindarlo> can someone tell me how to pair a bluetooth mouse in edgy?
[03:40] <Code-E> wow
[03:40] <baggio1000000> i was at 70% on dapper, now 40% on edgy
[03:40] <Code-E> Nobody can help me?
[03:40] <Code-E> >_<
[03:40] <godmachine81> wrabbit^:: that was a good idea that he told you.. the mixer levels sometimes get dropped down. make sure the "pcm" is turned up and the "master" as well
[03:40] <dabaR> tiger_it: what do you want me to answer exactly?
[03:40] <cartucho> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:40] <cartucho> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[03:40] <cartucho> im getting this in glxinfo
[03:40] <wrabbit^> ArrenLex, ompaul.... It's not my pc.  I'm taking this info back to my mate who doesn't have access to the net atm.
[03:40] <hegemon> THE REPULICAN MESSAGE: "SUPPORT BUSH, IMPEACH OUR TROOPS"
[03:40] <tiger_it> dabaR:  WHY R U like that with me ?!!
[03:40] <dbmonk74> Good day - I'm having some problems installing/booting Ubuntu from CD
[03:41] <ompaul> Eric,  do this >>ps auwx | grep  syna << does that give any output?
[03:41] <bruenig> !offtopic | hegemon
[03:41] <ubotu> hegemon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:41] <dabaR> tiger_it: what is wrong, dude?
[03:41] <tiger_it> dabaR:  just that!! I j would like just know
[03:41] <dbmonk74> My monitor stops displaying video during the boot-up process
[03:41] <Eric> ompaul yes it does
[03:41] <tiger_it> dabaR:  Ive ask you....... you know.......
[03:41] <Flatz> I'm getting much happier with the Edgy upgrade thanks to variant and crimsun
[03:41] <cartucho> dabaR: any tips how to fix this ? i made the binary driver how to
[03:41] <baggio1000000> monk, try booting in safe graphics mode
[03:42] <ompaul> tiger_it, please stop misunderstanding  this is a text enviroment - it is easy to missunderstand and try to work with others
[03:42] <Flatz> Soudn card now works and all my drives are back
[03:42] <tiger_it> dabaR:  ok...... forget it!! maybe you have a bad-day
[03:42] <wrabbit^> ok, thanks guys.  This is enough to get us started.  I'll catch up with him later tonight so I'll let you know how things go
[03:42] <dbmonk74> If I'm booting from CD, how would I make that happen?
[03:42] <Eric> says eric   5916 0.0  0.1 2796  752 pts/0   S+  22:41  0:00  grep  syna
[03:42] <baggio1000000> you can boot in safe graphics with the cd
[03:42] <tiger_it> ompaul:  I hope...... U R right!
[03:42] <ompaul> Eric, then you have no other one that is the command finding itself
[03:42] <Eric> how do i make it not do that?
[03:42] <dbmonk74> I'll check for documentation on that - thanks :)
[03:43] <Abst> How do you make a script run at startup?
[03:43] <Flatz> One more question.  I have 2 mount points listed as /windows and /windows2.  However they are under /  I want them to be under /home/frank ( this is my home directory ).  Can I do this?
[03:43] <ompaul> Eric,  do this >>ps auwx | grep  syna | grep -v grep << does that give any output?
[03:43] <godmachine81> Eric:: thats normal
[03:43] <Nuked> anyone have in depth knowledge of cups?
[03:43] <tiger_it> ompaul:  anyway......... I know the anglo-speakers dont like how i speak
[03:43] <Eric> no output paul
[03:43] <MugginsM> flatz: simple way is just to do a softlink.     ln -s /windows /home/frank/windows
[03:43] <SlackRat> tiger_it, thats a generalization
[03:44] <MugginsM> flatz: doesn't move them but it's a handy shortcut
[03:44] <godmachine81> Eric:: try ps aux|grep dpkg |grep -v grep
[03:44] <tiger_it> SlackRat:  may be
[03:44] <Eric> godmachine i cannot run a install file though because it says something else is running
[03:44] <Abst> Flatz: Try gksudo gedit /etc/fdisk
[03:44] <SlackRat> my guess is clueless flamelords dont like how you speak
[03:44] <BetaCookies> Hey
[03:44] <Eric> no output
[03:44] <ompaul> tiger_it, you can't claim that, I speak english more than 90% of the time
[03:44] <Abst> Flatz: Nvm
[03:44] <cx> how do you turn on AIGLX in Edgy?
[03:44] <davidindarlo> can someone tell me how to pair a bluetooth mouse in edgy?
[03:44] <ompaul> Eric, so it is not seeing any process
[03:44] <godmachine81> Eric:: try ps aux |grep -i update |grep -v grep
[03:45] <Flatz> MugginsM: The only reason I care is when I login via FTP, I don't see those directories.  Will the softlink make them available when I connect to the box via FTP?
[03:45] <tiger_it> ompaul:  you......... but not me. Im living in Argentina
[03:45] <MugginsM> flatz: ah, might not, depends how ftp is setup
[03:45] <Flatz> Muggins:  I only see my home.  I want to see those two directories
[03:45] <ompaul> godmachine81, all yours .. :)
[03:45] <BetaCookies> I think that I need a better driver for my network adapter because it takes forever looking up hostnames -- or maybe it is using a weird dns server.. how can i change network stuff like that?
[03:45] <snoops> cx umm well in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf there's a flag you can turn on for extra info on that try out www.beryl-project.org
[03:45] <godmachine81> lol @ ompaul
[03:45] <Eric> ,acjome ot goves am pit[it
[03:45] <Eric> pf i[date mptofoer
[03:45] <ompaul> tiger_it,  spanish speaking?
[03:45] <baggio1000000> My biggest problem is that any program is using 100% cpu .. any program since i upgraded, any one know of this?
[03:45] <Eric> oh wow
[03:45] <rixth> Is there a program that I can point an MP3 and it will fix the length header? I have files that are being reported as 9 minutes, when they are only 4.
[03:45] <Eric> machine it gives an output of update notifier
[03:45] <tiger_it> ompaul:  si, exacto!!
[03:45] <felicito> !ntfs
[03:45] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:45] <ompaul> !es
[03:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:45] <wickedpuppy> !sp
[03:45] <Remy`> I cannot edit a read only file, it says only root can edit it, how do I change this?
[03:45] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> oh ya.. i always think of spanish is sp .. damn
[03:46] <ompaul> tiger_it, that might help?
[03:46] <Eric> 5575  0.0  2.1  32716  11040 ?   Ss  22:32  0:00  update-notifier
[03:46] <godmachine81> Eric:: one more,    ps aux|grep -i "apt-" |grep -v grep
[03:46] <Flatz> Muggins: Can I just create two new directories under my home folder and mount my 2 partitions there instead of under /
[03:46] <tiger_it> ompaul:  Ive a dubt about my smtp server
[03:46] <SlackRat> Remy sudo nano?
[03:46] <snoops> Remy`, you can sudo chown the file
[03:46] <[ANF] MasterNinja> i cant use my wifi card on my laptop :(
[03:47] <snoops> or just open it in root.. sudo nano as SlackRat said
[03:47] <Eric> no output
[03:47] <Remy`> Alright, I'll try that.
[03:47] <t0ny-p40> any know how to get network manager to work on edgy?
[03:47] <godmachine81> Eric:: ok try killall -9 update-notifier && sudo apt-get update
[03:47] <godmachine81> see if you get the same error
[03:47] <cx> t0ny-p40, nm-applet --sm-disable
[03:47] <ompaul> tiger_it, as your english is not understood I suggest you ask in #ubuntu-es
[03:48] <[ANF] MasterNinja> Cysco systems 350 wifi card aronet wifi card wont connect tried everything. First time on linux.
[03:48] <ompaul> tiger_it, it should make for better help
[03:48] <godmachine81> update-notifier shouldnt be tying up your dpkg lockfile.. but i suppose its possible
[03:48] <tiger_it> ompaul:  thank you........ but there are less people there!!
[03:48] <Eric> ig
[03:48] <Eric> ic*
[03:48] <t0ny-p40> cx:I did that it does not see any interface. even ethernet
[03:48] <godmachine81> you see what Eric ?
[03:48] <ompaul> tiger_it, better be understood than have mistakes - you don't break a machine that way
[03:48] <Eric> well it went to 0% [connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com]   [connecting to security.ubuntu.com] 
[03:48] <t0ny-p40> cx:even as root
[03:48] <[ANF] MasterNinja> Cysco systems 350 wifi card Aronet WiFi card wont connect tried everything. First time on linux.
[03:48] <Eric> and it is doing nothing
[03:48] <godmachine81> Eric:: that means its not locked
[03:49] <godmachine81> if it was locked it would say it is locked
[03:49] <cx> t0ny-p40, it's probably your internet card
[03:49] <Eric> oh
[03:49] <Crescendo> Gah, stop saying my naaaame.
[03:49] <Eric> it have no internet thats why its at 0% lol
[03:49] <tiger_it> ompaul: it will be consider. Thanxs
[03:49] <t0ny-p40> worked on 6.06
[03:49] <[ANF] MasterNinja> other people got it to work
[03:49] <Crescendo> -= Smacks Eric for naming his nick his name. =-
[03:49] <dabaR> [ANF] MasterNinja: you tried everything, so you just wanted to let us know about your non-successful attempt?
[03:49] <Crescendo> Yarrrr.
[03:49] <Eric> but it just said cant resolve
[03:49] <godmachine81> looks like your sources are being lagged out
[03:49] <pirateninja> I reparitioned my harddrive off livecd, installed linux, then installed XP. How do I put on grub loader so I can boot into ubuntu aswell?
[03:49] <godmachine81> Eric:: your using sources that everyone gets as a default
[03:49] <godmachine81> so its going to have some issues
[03:49] <[ANF] MasterNinja> i was wondering if you know a program to get wificards to work
[03:49] <Eric> is there any way to make this program install then?
[03:50] <grndslm> pirateninja...you must install xp first, then linux
[03:50] <Eric> like a way around that error
[03:50] <godmachine81> Eric:: yes you can replace your sources.list
[03:50] <ompaul> !offtopic > Crescendo
[03:50] <redguy> hhowdy, I have a dual screen setup. No xinerama, no twinview( plain x multiple screen setup ). I want to have control ofg what is run on a specific screen
[03:50] <godmachine81> hang on
[03:50] <dabaR> [ANF] MasterNinja: but you tried everything already...
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> pirateninja, always install windows before linux ...
[03:50] <Eric> alright
[03:50] <rixth> Is there a program that I can point an MP3 and it will fix the length header? I have files that are being reported as 9 minutes, when they are only 4.
[03:50] <pirateninja> grndslm, so is it impossibile?
[03:50] <Crescendo> Thanks, ompaul.
[03:50] <ompaul> yw
[03:50] <pirateninja> There has to be a way
[03:50] <grndslm> pirateninja, windows does not play well with others, so linux has to be installed last in order to correct their arrogant and ignorant mistakes
[03:50] <redguy> right noe I have different (?) KDE sessions on both screen
[03:50] <redguy> s
[03:50] <Remy`> When I try to open the file in nano, it's just bringing up a blank document, when I'm typing the file case sensitive, but when I open it from it's folder, it works fine.
[03:51] <Remy`> I'm really new at this, sorry. :\
[03:51] <SlackRat> Remy, check that there are no typos in your sudo nano command
[03:51] <godmachine81> Eric:: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28403/plain/
[03:51] <SlackRat> no problem, Remy
[03:51] <Remy`> sudo nano /ect/X11/xorg.conf
[03:51] <godmachine81> save that as a file in your /tmp
[03:51] <Eric> and how do i get to that file?
[03:51] <SlackRat> etc. NOT ect
[03:51] <godmachine81> Eric:: name it /tmp/sources.list
[03:51] <pirateninja> So all is lost?  I have to reinstall all this stuff all over again?
[03:51] <Remy`> oh, sorry.
[03:51] <SlackRat> heh
[03:52] <SlackRat> i do it all the time
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> Remy`, use tab
[03:52] <godmachine81> Eric:: save the page as in your browser
[03:52] <ompaul> !grub
[03:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:52] <Remy`> I'll try now
[03:52] <pirateninja> There are no other multiboot loaders or anything I can use to get into ubuntu other than grub
[03:52] <SlackRat> theres other boot managers out there
[03:52] <dougsko> Remy`: yeah, if you type part of the word out, tab will complete it, and if theres more than one choice, hit tab again and itll show you all the choices
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> pirateninja, there is partition magic
[03:52] <Remy`> alright
[03:52] <SlackRat> i think smart boot is OS independant
[03:53] <grndslm> pirateninja....if you install Windows, it will format your hard drive....there's no way of getting around this, no...unless of course you install it first and then ubuntu last
[03:53] <pirateninja> I partitioned it, it only formatted the partition I left for it
[03:53] <pirateninja> I still see my ubuntu and swap partitions in drive manager
[03:53] <gypo> Help with vsftpd in private
[03:53] <redguy> pirateninja: there's alway lilo...
[03:54] <Eric> machine how do i find the file
[03:54] <godmachine81> Eric:: where did you save it to?
[03:54] <Eric> i had to save it to my flash drive on windows
[03:54] <Eric> and move it over
[03:54] <grndslm> pirateninja...my bad, i didn't think you partitioned first...
[03:54] <Eric> so its a .txt file
[03:54] <redguy> pirateninja: lilo/grub is just a bootloader
[03:54] <JoeyDay> Can someone help me find my grub.conf file in Ubuntu 6.10 ?
[03:54] <TonySt> laisa, THIS IS HUGE.
[03:54] <Eric> because the computer with ubuntu has no net
[03:54] <laisa> WHOA.
[03:54] <laisa> no shit
[03:54] <godmachine81> Eric:: i dont know where you put it
[03:54] <grndslm> JoeyDay, /boot/grub/grub.conf or something like that
[03:54] <godmachine81> how could i know?
[03:54] <Eric> its on my desktop
[03:54] <laisa> i have entered the world of the geeks
[03:54] <Eric> as hehe.txt
[03:54] <TonySt> laisa, back to #wikipedia
[03:55] <godmachine81> Eric:: it is ~/Desktop/hehe.txt
[03:55] <stardled> can anyone help me?   i just got a dell pc, [i used to use ubuntu] , and when i boot the live disc, it loads and stuff, but after a little bit my mouse freezes
[03:55] <godmachine81> Eric:: do this
[03:55] <JoeyDay> grndslm: When I try to edit that I get an empty file.
[03:55] <Eric> yes
[03:55] <redguy> laisa: indeed ... ;-)
[03:55] <ompaul> !langauge
[03:55] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:55] <JoeyDay> grndslm: I'm doing: sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.conf
[03:55] <godmachine81> sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak
[03:55] <JoeyDay> Is there a way to search for the grub.conf file?
[03:55] <grndslm> JoeyDay, try /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:55] <godmachine81> sudo cp ~/Desktop/hehe.txt /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:55] <godmachine81> sudo apt-get update
[03:55] <JoeyDay> grndslm: Ah, let me try that.
[03:55] <godmachine81> ignore the gpg key errors you will get
[03:55] <redguy> godmachine81: sudo cp would be worse?
[03:55] <gypo> Please help with vsftpd
[03:56] <godmachine81> redguy:: what/
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> !ask | gypo
[03:56] <ubotu> gypo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:56] <stardled> anyone :x
[03:56] <gypo> puppy how do i add users
[03:56] <ompaul> !repeat
[03:56] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:56] <redguy> godmachine81: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak is as good as sudo mv
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> gypo, have you googled ?
[03:56] <redguy> godmachine81: if not better
[03:56] <gypo> not yet
[03:56] <godmachine81> redguy:: its as good.. but he is going to overwrite it anyway
[03:57] <davidindarlo> Hi ppl, how do I pair a bluetooth mouse in edgy?
[03:57] <Eric> machine it is trying to connect to internet again computer has no internet so it wont beable to
[03:57] <redguy> since you get an opportunity to tweak th sources.list file
[03:57] <godmachine81> Eric:: hmm then what are you trying to do exactly
[03:57] <godmachine81> lol
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> gypo, can i advice you to do that first ?
[03:57] <gypo> ive googled for other things and have not had good luck
[03:57] <JoeyDay> I'm missing Windows XP on my GRUB list. Can anyone help me understand how to add it back in properly?
[03:57] <[CG] MacrossFX> does anyone know any reasons why an ubuntu installation will fail at the select and install software step?  i'm trying to install xubuntu right now and it keeps failing there
[03:57] <godmachine81> if you dont have the internet.. what are you trying to do with your package manager?
[03:57] <NickGarvey> !java > linuxbento
[03:57] <ompaul> !grub
[03:57] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:57] <gypo> !ask
[03:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> gypo, what is your search phrase for vsftpd adding users ?
[03:58] <nikosapi> Somebody help, I've been trying to remove skype for 25min and I keep getting this: dpkg: error processing skype (--remove): subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 10  I can't use apt or anything because of that error!
[03:58] <Eric> i am trying to install a package someone sent me that will make my wireless card work it is a linksys wpc54gs ver 2
[03:58] <gypo> vsftpd server add user
[03:58] <ompaul> nikosapi, sudo apt-get -f
[03:58] <mrspinx> does anyone know the init command in kubuntu
[03:58] <mrspinx> im trying to restart ssh
[03:58] <stardled> anyone here have AIM that is an ubuntu expert?
[03:58] <godmachine81> nikosapi:: try sudo dpkg --force-all --purge skype
[03:58] <redguy> nikosapi: where did you instsll skype ffrom?
[03:58] <highneko> Eric: What's the file extention?
[03:58] <Eric> cauflu or something like that sent it to me
[03:58] <Eric> its .deb
[03:58] <TRWBW> it's been a while since i used linux, is 'user mode linux' still active?
[03:58] <mrspinx> and wondering if its in  another place
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> gypo, have you actually searched using it ?????????????
[03:59] <highneko> someone from here sent you the package?
[03:59] <Eric> yes
[03:59] <godmachine81> Eric:: where is the package at?? ill help you do that
[03:59] <gypo> ive searced on the ubuntu page
[03:59] <gypo> and on the ubuntu forums
[03:59] <highneko> Is that safe?
[03:59] <gypo> not on google
[03:59] <mrspinx> i think its /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[03:59] <godmachine81> highneko:: they probably just grabbed the .deb from packages.ubuntu.com
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> gypo, have you searched on GOOGLE using that search phrase that you gave me ?
[03:59] <Eric> its on my desktop its called bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-lubuntu2_all.deb
[04:00] <gypo> no ill try right now
[04:00] <godmachine81> Eric:: do this:
[04:00] <nikosapi> I got skype from the plf repo and I want to get rid of it
[04:00] <godmachine81> sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-lubuntu2_all.deb
[04:00] <godmachine81> oops
[04:00] <nikosapi> those both don't work
[04:00] <godmachine81> sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-lubuntu2_all.deb
[04:01] <highneko> Eric: Search google using the filename, and see if it's ligit! I don't know if linux virus type things exist. Maby it could delete things?
[04:01] <godmachine81> nikosapi:: its probably not installed
[04:01] <godmachine81> nikosapi:: apt-cache policy skype
[04:01] <Eric> ok that worked machine
[04:01] <Eric> are you farmilliar with this file?
[04:01] <nikosapi> It says skype is installed
[04:01] <godmachine81> Eric:: do ls /lib/firmware/$(uname -r)/
[04:02] <AlanHaggai> I am getting an error while clicking mark all updates in the update manager
[04:02] <sontek> Is there a shortcut key to allow resizing of windows with the mouse without having to be in a corner?
[04:02] <redguy> highneko: maliicoud pacgakes cando signifiacnt harm to your system
[04:02] <godmachine81> Eric:: do you have any files in that dir?
[04:02] <Eric> a whole crap load
[04:02] <godmachine81> ok do this now Eric
[04:02] <Eric> k
[04:03] <godmachine81> sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx
[04:03] <godmachine81> sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[04:03] <godmachine81> Eric:: after you get those two done
[04:03] <Eric> ok no output
[04:03] <Eric> on either one
[04:03] <godmachine81> do   ifconfig
[04:03] <godmachine81> do you see a eth0  or eth1
[04:03] <godmachine81> ?
[04:03] <wastrel> sigh
[04:04] <Eric> eth0 but thats when ive had it hooked up  via my cable
[04:04] <Eric> i belive eth1 is my wireless card
[04:04] <godmachine81> Eric:: do this dmesg|tail
[04:04] <godmachine81> anything in the last couple of lines talking about your ethernet?
[04:04] <nikosapi> Is there any way to tell apt to just ignor a package? (eg. skype)
[04:04] <godmachine81> or wifi rather
[04:04] <dabaR> iwconfig
[04:04] <godmachine81> nikosapi:: you mean to hold it back?
[04:05] <Eric> no
[04:05] <Eric> they all look like they are my wireless card
[04:05] <godmachine81> Eric:: are you using gnome-terminal?
[04:05] <tonyyserver> How can I force tty2 to respawn?  It was in an ssh session with a computer that froze up and and to be hard reset.
[04:05] <Eric> yes
[04:05] <davidindarlo> can someone help me with bluetooth pairing?
[04:05] <godmachine81> ok do this ctrl + shift + t
[04:05] <godmachine81> it will open a new tab
[04:05] <Eric> i think i went to applications accessories terminal
[04:05] <dudawifi> someone can help me to detec wifi. I have the windows drivers installed, but I dont detect wifi. Ubuntu drapper 6.06 64bits. Thanksss
[04:05] <Eric> ok ya it opened in a new terminal
[04:06] <Eric> i mmean new tab
[04:06] <godmachine81> ok now in that terminal do this   tail -f /var/log/syslog
[04:06] <nikosapi> I'm not sure, or is there a way to just tell apt to forget the package ever existed without trying to remove it?
[04:06] <stardled> if i have a 64 bit proc, can i use the normal version of ubuntu?
[04:06] <godmachine81> look at what is shows on the screen
[04:06] <godmachine81> now go back to the other tab
[04:06] <Eric> ok
[04:06] <godmachine81> do sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx
[04:06] <godmachine81> check to see if that other tabs output changed any
[04:06] <stardled> if i have a 64 bit proc, can i use the normal version of ubuntu?
[04:06] <nikosapi> yes
[04:06] <ArrenLex> stardled: of course.
[04:07] <stardled> ok
[04:07] <stardled> ty lol
[04:07] <adele> anybody with ATIx1800 series video card?
[04:07] <Eric> i dont belive it did godmachine
[04:07] <godmachine81> ok
[04:07] <godmachine81> now in the same tab you put modprobe -r in
[04:07] <Logix> hey, can someone help me - having a problem with a FAT32 drive?
[04:07] <godmachine81> do modprobe bcm43xx
[04:07] <dudawifi> sorry for my english..... someone can help me to detec wifi. I have the windows drivers installed, but I dont detect wifi. Ubuntu drapper 6.06 64bits. Thanksss
[04:07] <godmachine81> sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[04:08] <Eric> ok
[04:08] <godmachine81> now look at the tab with tail again
[04:08] <godmachine81> see if it changed any
[04:08] <Eric> it still looks the same
[04:08] <godmachine81> ok
[04:08] <godmachine81> you can stop that one
[04:08] <Eric> do i have to type anything again in that file?
[04:08] <Eric> k
[04:08] <godmachine81> ctrl c
[04:08] <adele> how do I install video card drivers?
[04:08] <godmachine81> you can exit that tab
[04:08] <Eric> alright did
[04:09] <godmachine81> now in the other one do sudo network-admin
[04:09] <Eric> alright
[04:09] <Eric> opens network settings
[04:09] <tonyyserver> !binarydrivers
[04:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:09] <Battousai> hello ppl
[04:09] <godmachine81> do you see your wifi card listed in that?
[04:09] <Eric> it shows wireless connection this network interface is not configured
[04:09] <godmachine81> ok
[04:09] <Eric> its been like that since install of ubuntu
[04:09] <godmachine81> you just need to enable it
[04:09] <Battousai> im new to linux and i downloaded ubuntu recently and i need some help. plz :D
[04:09] <godmachine81> highlight it click on properties
[04:09] <AkumAPRIME> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1680606#post1680606   if anyone thinks they can help me get my secondary monitor to Boot as the secondary monitor, and to increase it's resolution, please read my thread
[04:09] <godmachine81> and set it up
[04:10] <Eric> did that
[04:10] <godmachine81> and be sure you have its check box checked
[04:10] <Eric> it dont show my essid
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> !ask | Battousai
[04:10] <adele> also in case I dont like it, how do I change it back to the way it is?
[04:10] <ubotu> Battousai: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:10] <Battousai> ok thx
[04:10] <godmachine81> does your router use wep keys?
[04:10] <keithhhh> hey does everyone have a /home/k/.config/menus/applications.menu   file?
[04:10] <Eric> it can
[04:10] <Eric> i have all security diabled
[04:10] <Battousai> i burnt the desktop disk and when i try to boot up it doesnt boot
[04:10] <keithhhh> I seemed to have killed it
[04:10] <Eric> till i get it to work
[04:11] <godmachine81> Eric:: i think that bcm43xx still requires networkmanager to work
[04:11] <AkumAPRIME> Battousai: you burned the iso? Did you burn an image?, or did you simply copy an iso to a disk?
[04:11] <godmachine81> do you have networkmanager installed?
[04:11] <AkumAPRIME> battousia, do you know the difference?
[04:11] <Eric> how do i know if i do or not
[04:11] <godmachine81> hang on
[04:11] <Eric> k
[04:11] <Logix> i have a FAT32 drive mounted on my system, but after AMAROK crashed, now only have read access rights to the drive. checked FSTAB and there's nothing there to help... when i restard my computer i can see the FSCK finds errors but cannot fix them... help?!?
[04:11] <godmachine81> apt-cache policy networkmanager
[04:11] <Battousai> i burnt the image like im suppose to :D cuz when i insert it in windows it loads up
[04:11] <godmachine81> apt-cache policy networkmanager-gnome
[04:12] <Eric> W: Unable to locate package networkmanager-gnome
[04:12] <stardled> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1680651 -- any help would be great
[04:12] <dudawifi> godmachine81: can you help me whit my wifi please
[04:12] <godmachine81> ehh
[04:12] <dudawifi> ??
[04:12] <BetaCookies> Why is ubuntu so much slower than windows when it is looking up a hostname? Please can someone help me? I feel like I am on dialup because it literally takes 10 seconds or more just to look up the hostname. Once that is done, it loads very quickly.
[04:12] <godmachine81> apt-cache policy network-manager
[04:12] <godmachine81> apt-cache policy network-manager-gnome
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> Battousai, then the cd has error loading or it does not load at all ?
[04:12] <Battousai> it doesnt load
[04:13] <Eric> none of them are working
[04:13] <Battousai> it doesnt load when i try to boot with it
[04:13] <CineScope> is the plf edgy repository working for anyone?
[04:13] <AkumAPRIME> try reburning on another disk? do an md5sum check on your DKed iso?
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> Battousai, then i suggest you check your bios to see if it boots cd before the hd
[04:13] <godmachine81> this should be fixed in edgy
[04:13] <AkumAPRIME> DK == DL
[04:13] <Kuberr> how do you delete a kernel?
[04:13] <godmachine81> if they dont install network-manager during install
[04:13] <keithhhh> does everyone have a /home/k/.config/menus/applications.menu   file?
[04:13] <AkumAPRIME> Ah, Battousai: widkedpuppy is right
[04:13] <godmachine81> then how do they expect you to get wifi up if thats your only option
[04:13] <Eric> no idea
[04:13] <Battousai> you mean to put it to first boot with the cd-rom right? i did that and still
[04:13] <keithhhh> oh my god I dont even have a menus directory
[04:14] <Eric> what is network manager
[04:14] <godmachine81> Eric:: it manages wifi
[04:14] <AkumAPRIME> godmachine81:They Totally should have fixed that
[04:14] <ryanpg> anyone using monodevelop in edgy? I can't compile any projects they die with: "Build failed. Can't create project output directory /bin/Debug original exception: System.UnauthorizedAccessException: Access to the path "/bin/Debug" is denied."
[04:14] <Eric> it shold be in the task bar thing right?
[04:14] <jtf0518> got a problem with a new widescreen monitor. When I set my resolution to the max I get black space on the right and bottom sides of the screen.
[04:14] <Eric> whoa wait
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> CineScope: PLF is down until somebody steps up to the plate and offers to maintain it.
[04:14] <Eric> i think it connected
[04:15] <Eric> my gaim said it was connected now
[04:15] <Eric> and internet is now working
[04:15] <Kuberr> how do you delete a kernel??? i set up this extra one by accident.
[04:15] <exeakiel> jtf518 : does your screen have an auto?
[04:15] <wastrel> ryanpg:  change the project output directory - it doesn't belong in /bin
[04:15] <dudawifi> godmachine81: I have a notebook whit integrated wifi, I have windows drivers installed, but I can found wifi, can you help me please???
[04:15] <godmachine81> Eric:: probably took it a minute to rescan
[04:15] <jtf0518> yes
[04:15] <Eric> gotcha
[04:15] <ryanpg> wastrel, thank... checking that
[04:15] <Eric> ty godmachine
[04:15] <exeakiel> Press it
[04:15] <AkumAPRIME> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1680606#post1680606   if anyone thinks they can help me get my secondary monitor to Boot as the secondary monitor, and to increase it's resolution, please read my thread
[04:15] <Eric> mia reboot see if it still works
[04:15] <SlackRat> apt-get remove 'kernel name'
[04:15] <Battousai> my trouble is quite odd :D
[04:15] <AgentCy> godmachine is a hero haha
[04:15] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: what do you mean windows drivers?
[04:15] <godmachine81> AgentCy:: not according to some..
[04:15] <jtf0518> still doesn't work
[04:15] <Kuberr> k thx
[04:15] <AgentCy> :-P
[04:16] <exeakiel> What screen ya' using?
[04:16] <jtf0518> I've messed with my xorg.conf and read a few hundred postings. Works like a champ in Vista RC1.
[04:16] <SlackRat> youll have to sudo, or you can use synaptic
[04:16] <dudawifi> godmachine81: Ndiswrapper
[04:16] <Battousai> i do not want windows either, i just want ubuntu alone
[04:16] <jtf0518> MAG Innovison LT926Wb
[04:16] <ryanpg> wastrel, my Default Solution location is /home/ryanpg/Projects
[04:16] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: do lspci |grep -i net
[04:17] <Logix> will anybody be able to help me with my FAT32 problem?
[04:17] <Logix> i can wait, i just want to know if anybody here can help
[04:17] <exeakiel> Dunno what to tell you man-g.
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> Battousai, have you done what we have suggested ?
[04:17] <jtf0518> someone on the Beryl-project.org site mentioned "organic scaling" and I have no idea how to adjust for that.
[04:17] <wastrel> ryanpg:  i don't actually use monodevelop - but i'd grep the config files for that directory ...  seems weird that it wants to put stuff in /bin
[04:17] <exeakiel> ./configure right?
[04:17] <ryanpg> wastrel, me too
[04:17] <dudawifi> 0000:03:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[04:17] <dudawifi> 0000:03:06.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[04:17] <Battousai> yes, i have done a little research and i've tried a lot of things
[04:17] <thin> I'm working on a web design. Does ubuntu not come with "Times New Roman"?
[04:17] <alanhaggai> I have upgraded my system to Edgy. But, now XServer is not starting
[04:17] <alanhaggai> please help
[04:18] <thin> x server not working for me either
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> Battousai, if you are talking to someone , pls put the name in front ...
[04:18] <thin> nobody wanted to help me
[04:18] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: looks like we are dealing with the same thing as Eric
[04:18] <godmachine81> lol
[04:18] <thin> i will pray they help you
[04:18] <Battousai> my machine is a laptop compaq presario 700z specs duron 1.2ghz 20hdd 256ram
[04:18] <eternale1> frozen at the crosshairs? thin alanhaggai ?
[04:18] <AgentCy> lol
[04:18] <dudawifi> when I come into chanel
[04:18] <alanhaggai> eternale1: can you help me?
[04:18] <thin> I think i pissed them off when I pointed out that no version of ubuntu worked for me
[04:18] <thin> ever
[04:18] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: do ls /lib/firmware/$(uname -r)/*.fw
[04:19] <Trae> when I hit my keyboard, it changes Master Mono.  I want it to change PCM, anyway to do this?
[04:19] <Battousai> wickedpuppy: sorry im new to mirc too
[04:19] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: and dont copy and paste anything back here
[04:19] <exeakiel> How do I get firefox 2.0 on dis' thang?
[04:19] <godmachine81> just see if you have a bunch of stuff in that dir
[04:19] <AgentCy> is that broadcom integrated or pcmcia?
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> exeakiel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:19] <dudawifi> ls /lib/firmware/$(manuxm -r)/*.fw
[04:19] <dudawifi> bash: manuxm: orden no encontrada
[04:19] <dudawifi> ls: /lib/firmware//*.fw: No existe el fichero  directorio
[04:19] <alanhaggai> any help to get XServer to work?
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> Battousai, this has nothing to do with mirc .. its irc .. anyway you confirmed the bios setting is correct ? meaning the cd before hd ?
[04:19] <Logix> WHY ARE YOU IGNORING ME?
[04:19] <JoeyDay> Okay, it looks like the /boot/grub/menu.lst was the right file, but I've obviously got something wrong. Windows won't boot. GRUB gives me an error "parsing the number" or something like that.
[04:19] <godmachine81> manuxm?
[04:20] <godmachine81> uname -r
[04:20] <godmachine81> not manuxm
[04:20] <SlackRat> did someone say something? guess not
[04:20] <wastrel> !patience
[04:20] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:20] <dudawifi> im spanish, sorry
[04:20] <AgentCy> !shouting
[04:20] <Battousai> wickedpuppy, yes i did
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shouting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <wastrel> Logix:  what is your question?
[04:20] <AgentCy> !shout
[04:20] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:20] <adele> btw what are "rpm" files and how to I open them
[04:20] <wastrel> !es | dudawifi
[04:20] <ubotu> dudawifi: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:20] <Logix> wastrel,  sorry, i did not mean to be rude... just got no answer at all...
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> I'm looking for help troubleshooting a CUPS print server if anyone's experienced.
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> Battousai, then there is no error messages or anything ? what do you see ? pls describe ?
[04:20] <Logix> i have a FAT32 drive mounted on my system, but after AMAROK crashed, now only have read access rights to the drive. checked FSTAB and there's nothing there to help... when i restard my computer i can see the FSCK finds errors but cannot fix them... help?!?
[04:21] <TxTERMiNAOR> clear
[04:21] <dudawifi> godmachine81: ls /lib/firmware/$(uname -r)/*.fw
[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/ipw2100-1.3.fw
[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/ipw2100-1.3-i.fw
[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/ipw2100-1.3-p.fw
[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/ipw2200-bss.fw
[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/ipw2200-ibss.fw
[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/ipw2200-sniffer.fw
[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/zd1211b-WS11Ub.fw
[04:21] <TxTERMiNAOR> XServer is not working for me
[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/zd1211b-WS11UPh.fw
[04:21] <godmachine81> jeez
[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/zd1211b-WS11UPhm.fw
[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/zd1211b-WS11UPhR.fw
[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/zd1211b-WS11Ur.fw
[04:21] <AgentCy> omg
[04:21] <godmachine81> i said dont copy and paste it here
[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/zd1211-WS11Ub.fw
[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/zd1211-WS11UPh.fw
[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/zd1211-WS11UPhm.fw
[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/zd1211-WS11UPhR.fw
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> !ops
[04:21] <Battousai> wickedpuppy, ok. when i insert the disc in windows it loads k-melon i think and when i restart with the disc inserted it does boot at all, just continues to windows like always
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[04:21] <dudawifi> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/zd1211-WS11Ur.fw
[04:21] <TxTERMiNAOR> I upgraded to Edgy and XServer is not working
[04:21] <AgentCy> !paste | dudawifi
[04:21] <ubotu> dudawifi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:22] <tiger__> logix you need some change ...........
[04:22] <JoeyDay> Is ubotu a Bot?
[04:22] <ianmacgregor> yes
[04:22] <eternale1> TxTERMiNAOR: when you boot up does it just end up becoming frozen with the mouse crosshairs?
[04:22] <AgentCy> !bot
[04:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> yes
[04:22] <Logix> tiger__: what change
[04:22] <Logix> ?
[04:22] <JoeyDay> Does anyone mind looking at http://paste.jday.us/17 and helping me figure out what I've done wrong?
[04:22] <tiger__> logix: /dev/hda5 /media/fat32 vfat iocharset=utf8,auto,rw,user,exec,umask=000 0 0
[04:22] <Azih> Hey guys I'm brand new to Ubuntu (Dapper Drake) and Linux in general and I'm having a weird problem. I just installed Ubuntu on my Dell laptop and on startup it doesn't recognize my network.
[04:22] <JoeyDay> That's my /boot/grub/menu.lst file.
[04:22] <TxTERMiNAOR> eternale1 : it boots and shows a message that xserver cannot be started or so
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> Battousai, then cd is not booted .... pls re check the bios again ? then also have you tried any other live cd ?
[04:23] <Azih> it comes in randomly almost before that I can't even ping anything
[04:23] <tiger__> logix: is an example (I;ve that configuration in my /etc/fstab)
[04:23] <Azih> when I ping something it says 'Network is unreachable'
[04:23] <tiger__> logix:  umask  !!!!
[04:23] <Azih> even though all the correct settings show up in the Network Settings window
[04:23] <eternale1> i've ran into an issue while upgrading to edgy. The system begins to boot up, but never gets to the login screen , it becomes frozen on the cross hair mouse right before xwindow loads up, anyone seen this on upgrading?
[04:23] <tiger__> logix:  umask =000 means read,write, and execution :)
[04:24] <Battousai> wickedpuppy, well since my connection is 56k i had to start and stop a lot and sadly i dont have another live cd other then the one i have
[04:24] <Azih> I'm connecting just fine through the XP Home partition so the cable and router and ISP are fine
[04:24] <TxTERMiNAOR> eternale1 : I get a screen with much characters here and there
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> Battousai, try this , do you have windows cd ? does it boot into installation mode or does it go into windows as usual ?
[04:24] <skel> eternale1: have you checked the xorg logs in /var/log ?
[04:24] <TxTERMiNAOR> any help to get xServer running will be appreciated
[04:24] <Azih> and it's not like it doessn't work on Ubuntu, it's just really flaky in starting.
[04:24] <Azih> once it starts it goes fine.
[04:24] <Logix> tiger__, thank you. i will try that now. and will be back in a min.
[04:25] <Battousai> wickedpuppy, yes windows xp disc boots ok  :'(
[04:25] <Zoohouse> Is there a package that "shreads" files? I want to securely remove files..
[04:25] <tiger__> logix:  U WILL SUCCESS!!!
[04:25] <AkumAPRIME> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1680606#post1680606   if anyone thinks they can help me get my secondary monitor to Boot as the secondary monitor, and to increase it's resolution, please read my thread
[04:25] <skel> Zoohouse: apt-cache show wipe
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> Battousai, do you only have one computer ? check with other machines
[04:25] <Zoohouse> skel thanks
[04:25] <tiger__> logix:  replace for hda5 .... and /media/fat32 ....
[04:25] <skel> Zoohouse: no
[04:25] <exeakiel> How do you make the /opt dir
[04:25] <skel> Zoohouse: *no problem
[04:26] <dudawifi> godmachine81: I am here yet, can you continue please???
[04:26] <AkumAPRIME> mkdir opt?
[04:26] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: yes
[04:26] <Battousai> wickedpuppy, well i can try it on a desktop let me see brb
[04:26] <eternale1> skel: i have, not much in the way of any error reporting that i can tell will help, am i looking for something specific. the last few lines are complaining about "could not init font path element /usr/share/...."
[04:26] <TxTERMiNAOR> XServer not loading since I upgraded to Edgy. Please help.
[04:26] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: where is the firmware you said you had from windows
[04:26] <TxTERMiNAOR> How to get it running?
[04:26] <dudawifi> in a CD
[04:26] <skel> eternale1: could you post it on Pastebin? all the (EE) lines?
[04:26] <petrik> Where's the best place to get help on a php/apache problem?
[04:27] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: you mean its just the driver cd?
[04:27] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: do you have anyway to copy a file to your linux box?
[04:27] <AgentCy> petrik is the problem with php, or is it an apache config problem?
[04:27] <skel> TxTERMiNAOR: go to /var/log/X.org.log and look for (EE) lines
[04:27] <Zoohouse> skel it doesn't have a gui? :\
[04:27] <godmachine81> i seriously dont feel like having to guide you through how to fwcutter
[04:27] <petrik> AgentCy, http://pastecode.com/7371
[04:27] <dudawifi> where i need to copy the file??
[04:27] <skel> Zoohouse: oh.. no not that one.. lemme see
[04:27] <graveson> anyone know of a good rss reader for gnome/ubuntu ? a console based reader would be good
[04:27] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: there are firmware packages that exist in .deb packages
[04:28] <AkumAPRIME> can anyone here  see the video embedded on this site? http://poststuff4.entensity.net/102706/media.php?media=thegoogle.wmv
[04:28] <AkumAPRIME> its just the TheGoogle video of Bush, but I can't watch it
[04:28] <jaeek> i am installing edgy with a softraid partitions... do i have to make a separate raid "device" for each partition i want?
[04:28] <AkumAPRIME> curious if you can and how
[04:28] <TxTERMiNAOR> XServer is not loading since I upgraded to Edgy. How do I get it to run?
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> !wmv
[04:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:28] <AgentCy> petrik, does that file exist? if so, is it owned by the wwwserver user/group?
[04:28] <eternale1> skel: no error lines (EE), anywhere in x.org.log ... also i'm stuck in console mode for the moment it could be tough to get something on pastebin.
[04:28] <nikosapi> I still can't figure this out! How can I remove a package if it causes dpkg exit with an error?
[04:29] <AkumAPRIME> ty widckedpuppy
[04:29] <dudawifi> godmachine81: and what I need to do?
[04:29] <Zoohouse> skel I know that Kgpg used to have it but I can't seem to find it in this ver...
[04:29] <skel> eternale1: oh yeah, dur.. ok hmm no errors though huh?
[04:29] <godmachine81> RhiNo:: can you send me the deb file that had your firmware
[04:29] <TxTERMiNAOR> wickedpuppy : XServer is not loading for me
[04:29] <eternale1> ya nothing, i pip'd it to more but i can't find any EE's
[04:29] <eternale1> pipe'd
[04:29] <[ID] -6162> hi
[04:29] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: do you have wired internet working on your laptop?
[04:30] <Battousai> wickedpuppy, it did the same thing... doesnt boot
[04:30] <wickedpuppy> TxTERMiNAOR, have you done sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[04:30] <skel> eternale1: grep -i EE ?
[04:30] <TxTERMiNAOR> no
[04:30] <wickedpuppy> Battousai, then the cd is screwed .... thats all i can think of
[04:30] <Zoohouse> skel I found the shreader in KGPG :) Thanks for the help though
[04:30] <dudawifi> godmachine81: I am conected by cable, not wifi, but I have a local wifi red at home. it is you like to now?
[04:30] <graveson> anyone know of a good rss reader for gnome/ubuntu ? a console based reader would be good
[04:30] <petrik> AgentCy, I changed /var/www to /media/storage/www and put the test file (phpinfo) in that directory and that's the error
[04:31] <eternale1> skel: ya no EE's or ee's
[04:31] <skel> Zoohouse: cool deal =]  have fun
[04:31] <eternale1> just a bunch of I's and some W's
[04:31] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: yes i was just wondering if you had internet activity on the machine we are trying to get wifi going on
[04:31] <Logix> hey tiger__ , im back, and it didnt work...
[04:31] <Battousai> wickedpuppy, that should be the answer since i have tryed everything thx for all ur help, sorry to have bothered you
[04:31] <chuckles> why is us.archive.ubuntu.com so slow right now?
[04:31] <nikosapi> Is there another log (more detailed) for dpkg than in /var/log ?
[04:31] <tiger__> Logix: did u reboot ?
[04:31] <skel> eternale1: ok so its not X then.. anything in /var/log/messages .. whats the symptom again?
[04:31] <Logix> tiger__, yes i did
[04:31] <godmachine81> chuckles:: because its the default repos.. and people dont know how to change them
[04:31] <wickedpuppy> Battousai, no prob ... and pls upgrade your line :P
[04:31] <tiger__> Logix:  it should work!!!
[04:32] <chuckles> any way around them?
[04:32] <AgentCy> petrik, you have to set your apache server to serv files from that directory
[04:32] <TxTERMiNAOR> wickedpuppy : I tried that. But, it says the package is broken
[04:32] <Logix> tiger__, it always worked perfectly, until that one time amarok crashed, and since i've been seeing FSCK finding errors on the drive every time i reboot...
[04:32] <AgentCy> petrik, try checking with #apache
[04:32] <dudawifi> godmachine81: ok, when you like said me than I need to do
[04:32] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: get this file
[04:32] <eternale1> skel: after upgrade, reboot system, stuck on the mouse with the crosshairs.. frozen after that, can't even move the mouse... ill check /var/log/messages now
[04:32] <godmachine81> http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[04:32] <tiger__> Logix:  Have U  make a mount point (mkdir /media/hd xx) ??
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> TxTERMiNAOR, kindly do apt-get update ?
[04:32] <TxTERMiNAOR> ok wickedpuppy will try that
[04:32] <petrik> AgentCy, What would roughly be the entry I'm looking for and what file?
[04:32] <Logix> tiger__,  and then, i rebooted into my windows and fixed the drive and it worked.. but now my windows is unusable so i must find a solution within linux....
[04:33] <skel> eternale1: is it the generic X gray screen with the x cursor?
[04:33] <dudawifi> godmachine81: I have yet, now?
[04:33] <Logix> tiger__, yes i did... its mounted. and i can access the files, just not write on the drive.
[04:33] <godmachine81> download that
[04:33] <petrik> AgentCy, I've already chnage docroot and directory
[04:33] <AgentCy> petrik, youre looking for httpd.conf, and an entry for the server root perhaps
[04:33] <godmachine81> i dont understand your english very well
[04:33] <AgentCy> ok
[04:33] <skel> eternale1: could be a problem with your window manager
[04:33] <tiger__> Logix:  boot using a floppy disk with NDD (norton Disk Doctor)
[04:33] <eternale1> ya the generic xcursor
[04:33] <AgentCy> petrik, also make sure that the media/www/whatever directory is readable by the webserver
[04:33] <dudawifi> godmachine81: I have in my pc now, what i need to do?
[04:34] <Logix> tiger__,  good idea... didnt think about it... any idea where will be the easiest/fastest place to get this?
[04:34] <eternale1> not gray screen but black
[04:34] <mocker> Does anyone know a good mirror for packages.freecontrib.org?
[04:34] <Logix> tiger__, shit... no floppies...
[04:34] <petrik> AgentCy, How to check/do that?
[04:34] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: do you know where you saved it to?
[04:34] <skel> eternale1: hmm thats weird
[04:34] <TxTERMiNAOR> wickedpuppy : It is not updating. Fetched 6 KB only
[04:34] <godmachine81> probably your Desktop
[04:34] <tiger__> Logix:  buy one!
[04:34] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: try this
[04:34] <Logix> tiger__, no drive
[04:34] <dudawifi> yes
[04:34] <eternale1> skel: yes very...
[04:34] <dudawifi> in desktop
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> TxTERMiNAOR, then only thing i can think is upgrade was borked
[04:35] <tiger__> Logix:  ok.... from live CD ... in Linux ?
[04:35] <Logix> tiger__,  there MUST be another solution!
[04:35] <godmachine81> sudo dpkg -i ~/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[04:35] <Logix> tiger__,  but from a live cd- what can i do?
[04:35] <TxTERMiNAOR> wickedpuppy : so what can I do to solve it?
[04:35] <AkumAPRIME> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1680606#post1680606   if anyone thinks they can help me get my secondary monitor to Boot as the secondary monitor, and to increase it's resolution, please read my thread
[04:35] <eigenlambda> (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing eclipse (--purge):
[04:35] <eigenlambda>  files list file for package `language-pack-en-base' contains empty filename
[04:35] <tiger__> Logix: ask others... Im new!!!
[04:35] <Vaske_Car> how to reset Gnome panels to default?
[04:35] <tiger__> :)
[04:35] <skel> eternale1: what video card?
[04:35] <eternale1> old crappy voodoo
[04:35] <tiger__> Im going to LUNCH!!!
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> TxTERMiNAOR, backup everything you want , download edgy cd and install over and restore the backup files
[04:35] <eternale1> usually hasn't been a problem
[04:35] <eigenlambda> ^^ what does that mean, and how do i make it purge?
[04:36] <eigenlambda> whats a files list file and where is it hidden?
[04:36] <Logix> tiger__, ok, thanks for your effort....
[04:36] <dbmonk74> i'm having the same problem with TxTERMiNAOR - and did the suso dpkg, but I'm a bit of a loss on what to do next. (I'm using the live cd)
[04:36] <skel> eternale1: that use the mesa drivers?
[04:36] <TxTERMiNAOR> wickedpuppy : no other way?
[04:36] <Logix> hi all.... so i am still unable to write to my FAT32 drive... can anyone help?
[04:36] <eternale1> hmm don't think so
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> TxTERMiNAOR, there is , get xorg .deb and install it
[04:37] <TxTERMiNAOR> wickedpuppy : ok I will try that
[04:37] <skel> eternale1: gnome right?
[04:37] <Spottyfox> Hello, everyone. Does anyone know how to get the TV tuner on an ATI All-In-Wonder 9000 working under Edgy?
[04:37] <eternale1> ya
[04:37] <DigitalNinja> I've got an EPoX 6100 motherboard. I get error messages when it boots. Something like "Cannot access resource at 0x4598fjt594" or something like that. There are three or four lines of this.
[04:37] <skel> eternale1: try this.. mv your .gnome* .gconf* dirs to .blah.bak and restart gdm
[04:37] <Brydenn33> can someone help me with my wireless card?
[04:37] <DigitalNinja> What does it mean?
[04:37] <TxTERMiNAOR> wickedpuppy : how to download xorg.deb? I am using a terminal window
[04:38] <skel> TxTERMiNAOR: wget
[04:38] <AfterDeath> omg
[04:38] <AfterDeath> flood coming
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> TxTERMiNAOR, then ah ... its going to be tough .. i strongly suggest clean install ...
[04:38] <SlackRat> sudo apt-get  install xorg.deb
[04:38] <godmachine81> SlackRat:: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg you mean?
[04:38] <godmachine81> SlackRat:: if your in X you shouldnt have to do that
[04:39] <TxTERMiNAOR> wickedpuppy : how to download xorg.deb. I know that a new install is better, but I wanted to do some important work now. :(
[04:39] <godmachine81> SlackRat:: i think whoever needs to fix X just needs to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:39] <TxTERMiNAOR> wickedpuppy : thanks for the helping hand :)
[04:39] <dfgsdgf> why won't ATI driver not install in edgy? get 176: syntax error:bad substitution
[04:39] <godmachine81> SlackRat:: do you happen to know Soul_keeper?
[04:39] <godmachine81> haha
[04:39] <SlackRat> or xorgconfig
[04:39] <BetaCookies> Why is ubuntu so much slower than windows when it is looking up a hostname? Please can someone help me? I feel like I am on dialup because it literally takes 10 seconds or more just to look up the hostname. Once that is done, it loads very quickly.
[04:39] <SlackRat> prolly yeah
[04:40] <SlackRat> in ##slackware, right?
[04:40] <Bacon5o> Well, I cant uninstall ubuntu without reinstalling windows, thanks ubuntu....
[04:40] <wastrel> BetaCookies:  what version of ubuntu?
[04:40] <godmachine81> no its not xorgconfig
[04:40] <SlackRat> its there and it works
[04:40] <godmachine81> SlackRat:: yea the one from ##slackware
[04:40] <SlackRat> yeah
[04:40] <wastrel> Bacon5o:  did you install dual boot
[04:40] <BetaCookies> wastrel well it happened on every version i've used, from hoary to edgy
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> Anyone that's up for trying to confirm a bug, try the following and let me know what happens (NOT if you have anything critical running): On a virtual terminal (I used tty2), do 'watch acpi -V', then try to switch back to Gnome with Alt-F7.
[04:40] <godmachine81> its there and it works?  what does?
[04:40] <Spottyfox> BetaCookies: Under Edgy, this procedure worked for me: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[04:40] <SlackRat> xorgconfig
[04:40] <sanmarcos> anybody using dual displays?
[04:41] <Bacon5o> wastral when I remove ubuntu via partition deletion, I get a GRUB error, which is the bootloader
[04:41] <sanmarcos> how can I make the gnome panel span accross the two screens?
[04:41] <DigitalNinja> Does anyone know of a good micro atx motherboard that works with linux?
[04:41] <godmachine81> there is no xorgconfig in ubuntu
[04:41] <TxTERMiNAOR> wickedpuppy : how to download xorg.deb. I know that a new install is better, but I wanted to do some important work now. :(
[04:41] <dbmonk74> bleh - anyone have any idea how to configure graphics on a 29" monitor without a mouse and part of the screen missing? :)
[04:41] <godmachine81> you got /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:41] <wastrel> !fixmbr | Bacon5o
[04:41] <ubotu> Bacon5o: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:41] <wastrel> that's wrong
[04:41] <screechingcat> I've got a problem with firefox 2.0 in edgy. whenever i view a flash or login to gmail, it crashes
[04:41] <godmachine81> i dont knwo what your talking about SlackRat ya must still be on the old school slackware
[04:41] <wastrel> fixmbr is supposedto be the microsoft fix
[04:41] <SlackRat> theres other debian pkgs for x to configure, but i havnt used them as much.....
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> TxTERMiNAOR, to download use wget .. and for the important things you got to do , pls do in another computer
[04:41] <AgentCy> !java > screechingcat
[04:41] <wastrel> Bacon5o:  you need to get windows back in the bootloader.?
[04:41] <variant> anyone know how to disable the ubuntu/gnome splash screen?
[04:42] <SlackRat> old school isnt something like adept versus dist-upgrade, theyre both tools
[04:42] <wastrel> variant:  if you find out, let me know
[04:42] <variant> not the bootsplash, but the one you get after logging in
[04:42] <SlackRat> with good and bad points
[04:42] <variant> wastrel: will do :)
[04:42] <adele> can somebody help me with installing the latest ATI driver?
[04:42] <dfgsdgf> Is anyone else having problems installing ATI driver in edgy?
[04:42] <trippyD> anyone know the boot parameter to get edgy liveCD to use VESA?
[04:42] <wastrel> variant:  oh the gnome login screen?
[04:42] <screechingcat> AgentCy: i have java and the plugin
[04:42] <variant> wastrel: yes
[04:42] <godmachine81> SlackRat:: yea but still slack is stuck in the 90s ;)
[04:42] <TxTERMiNAOR> ok wickedpuppy : but what is the url I should use for wget to download xorg.deb (sorry for the trouble caused)
[04:42] <dudawifi> godmachine81: you read me?
[04:42] <skel> adele: is there a reason you don't want to use the ones in restricted-modules?
[04:42] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: what?
[04:42] <variant> wastrel: not gdm, but the splash you get after logging in
[04:42] <variant> wastrel: while the desktop loads
[04:42] <SlackRat> only if you dont use it
[04:42] <wastrel> oh.   no idea
[04:42] <screechingcat> AgentCy: I installed sunjava5-jre and sunjava5-plugin form the repos
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> TxTERMiNAOR, you got to use lynx or links to search the exact url
[04:42] <adele> skel: what are the ones in restribted-modyles?
[04:43] <SlackRat> its more up to date than my ubuntu box
[04:43] <Spottyfox> dfgsdgf : This worked for me. http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[04:43] <eternale1> skel: alright did that. removed the .gnome* .gconf* and rebooted gdm... takes me right to the issue spot. with the generic cursor and frozen after that.  One thing it does it like refresh the screen a few times but then becomes frozen after it refreshes itsself like3 times
[04:43] <TxTERMiNAOR> ok wickedpuppy . I will give it a try
[04:43] <SlackRat> and much much faster
[04:43] <adele> skel: I did what they told me on the ubuntu page but I dont think thats the very latest driver
[04:43] <eternale1> skel: looks to be something with gdm apparently
[04:43] <henke> edgy clean install, I have very long boot, 100+ seconds. Where does my boot go wrong? http://www.leotec.se/edgy/edgy-20061029-5.png
[04:43] <skel> eternale1: and still no errors in the X log :( ?
[04:43] <hackel_> Since upgrading to edgy, using Xv at all crashes my X server (hard) to the point where I can't even kill it or get back to a console.  My ctrl-alt-del is still able to get through to reboot the screen, but no video output.  I've got a Radeon XPRESS 200M.  Anyone heard of this issue or know a fix?
[04:43] <jldugger> question: how did i lock myself out of System->Administration tools?
[04:43] <eternale1> skel: let me check again
[04:43] <dudawifi> godmachine81: read the private message, i have pasted you that console said to me
[04:43] <variant> henke: you said it was 70 seconds earlyer
[04:43] <jldugger> it should be using gksudo to ask permission, instead i just get permission denied
[04:43] <henke> nope, 104 sec
[04:44] <BetaCookies> Spottyfox I'm not talking about ATi drivers, I got  those installed. I'm talking about >10 second hostname lookup in forefox and other web browsers
[04:44] <skel> adele: hm ok, I'm not sure what version in the restricted modules but since they come packaged for the ubuntu kernels I usually use them over the ati / nvidia site drivers
[04:44] <Bacon2> !fixmbr
[04:44] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:44] <BetaCookies> hackel_ weird. I have the same video card, its working absolutely fine for me :\
[04:44] <keithhhh> how do I access my .config  folder??
[04:44] <skel> adele: I supposed you could do apt-cache show <package> to find out
[04:44] <adele> skel: how do I check which ones I have atm?
[04:44] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: your nick isnt reg'd i cant receive your pm's
[04:44] <skel> adele: oh, what verions? hmm.. not sure if it wasn't installed via a package
[04:44] <eternale1> skel: still no EE's in Xorg.log :\
[04:44] <hackel_> BetaCookies:  which driver?  This is happening with both the radeon and firegl drivers.
[04:45] <SlackRat> see if you can salvage the ubuntu with an alternate text installer and skip to the boot manager part
[04:45] <dudawifi> jajajja
[04:45] <dudawifi> sorry
[04:45] <BetaCookies> hackel_ i'm using fglrx
[04:45] <adele> I wanted to try this thing but the stupid installer doesnt work
[04:45] <adele> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.29.6-inst.html
[04:45] <skel> eternale1: do you have any custom themes or anything with gdm?
[04:45] <dfgsdgf> Thanks for whoever gave me the link for the ati driver help :)
[04:45] <skel> eternale1: I would try just running gnome-session
[04:45] <eternale1> i did have a custom login screen
[04:45] <skel> eternale1: to isolate if its X, gdm, or gnome
[04:45] <adele> skel how did you install your drivers?
[04:46] <dbmonk74> hrm. is there any boot-option for the live CD so that I can force a particular resolution?
[04:46] <trippyD> what is the boot options to make the liveCD start with VESA rather than the nvidia drivers?
[04:46] <skel> adele: I did apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386
[04:46] <dudawifi> godmachine81:
[04:46] <AgentCy> dbmonk74 click on the vga option at the bottom once you get to the install screen
[04:46] <cyphase> jldugger: were you able to use the admin tools before, on this exact account?
[04:46] <SlackRat> live starts with the nvidia drivers? cool
[04:46] <dudawifi> Desempaquetando el reemplazo de bcm43xx-firmware ...
[04:46] <dudawifi> Configurando bcm43xx-firmware (1.3-1ubuntu1) ...
[04:46] <dudawifi> Note that you need to DISABLE ndiswrapper and wifi-radar for this driver
[04:46] <dudawifi> to work properly! You can do this by removing the ndiswrapper driver.
[04:46] <dudawifi> Use `sudo ndiswrapper -l' to identify the driver.
[04:46] <jldugger> cycom, yes
[04:46] <dudawifi> Then run `sudo ndiswrapper -e <driver>' to remove it. You may also need
[04:46] <dudawifi> to remove the file /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[04:47] <adele> skel: I am running amd64 version..will that work?
[04:47] <BetaCookies> ahh
[04:47] <jldugger> cycom, if i call "gksudo network-admin" from the terminal, it works
[04:47] <AgentCy> !paste | dudawifi
[04:47] <ubotu> dudawifi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:47] <cyphase> jldugger: cyphase ;)
[04:47] <skel> adele: you have to get the ones for your kernel version, do uname -a   then   apt-cache search restricted
[04:47] <jldugger> err, cphase
[04:47] <skel> adele: then find the matching version and get it and try that
[04:47] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: did you do what it says?
[04:48] <skel> adele: you may want to uninstall whatever the other drivers you tried to install
[04:48] <cyphase> jldugger: if it works from the terminal, than i don't know what's wrong
[04:48] <eternale1> skel: gnome-session currently on the bash prompt causes gtk-Warning  cannot open display
[04:48] <dbmonk74> AgentCy: Thank you :) I did try that once and it still wouldn't load into X. I know it has something to do with my wonky monitor (29" dell)
[04:48] <dudawifi> godmachine81: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28998/
[04:48] <skel> eternale1: are you su'd or sudo'd to another user?
[04:48] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: sudo ndiswrapper -l
[04:48] <AgentCy> dbmonk74, whoa, thats a large monitor :)
[04:49] <dbmonk74> either it won't load, or the monitor says it can't support the resolution
[04:49] <dbmonk74> AgentCy: It's sweeeeet.
[04:49] <dudawifi> godmachine81: No drivers installed
[04:49] <AgentCy> dbmonk74, 29.. or 20"?
[04:49] <mepis> hello!!
[04:49] <adele> this is bad, I dont think anyone can help me
[04:49] <dbmonk74> 29"
[04:49] <mepis> what is going on adele!
[04:49] <HaroldJohnson> Hi everyone!  Having trouble sftp'ing my backup back to my Ubuntu partition.  Any other tools I can do this with?  (Already tried FTP.)
[04:49] <AgentCy> wow :)
[04:49] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[04:49] <HaroldJohnson> !scp
[04:49] <ubotu> scp is a secure way of copying files across networks using ssh. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - winscp is a windows scp client
[04:49] <eternale1> skel: i was su'd to my usual user to get onto irrsi, but i detached my screen to get back to the original login of root from the recovery mode
[04:49] <adele> mepis: I want to install the latest ATI drivers since current ones make my videocard sound like boeing 747
[04:50] <dudawifi> godmachine81: ok, it done
[04:50] <dbmonk74> I stand corrected - 26"
[04:50] <Bacon5o_> !fixmbr
[04:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:50] <mepis> sorry im not sure about that
[04:50] <AgentCy> dbmonk74, did you try using different resolutions?
[04:50] <jldugger> dbmonk74, whats the native resolution of that?
[04:50] <skel> eternale1: if you login as a normal user and do a gnome-session does it start?
[04:50] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: do sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx
[04:50] <anonymeeee> I can't play mp3's  "no decoder"
[04:50] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: then do   sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[04:51] <godmachine81> then do sudo network-admin
[04:51] <orkid__> !mp3
[04:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:51] <anonymeeee> any suggestions?
[04:51] <godmachine81> dudawifi:: in network-admin enable your wifi connection and set any options you want
[04:51] <godmachine81> and you should be good
[04:51] <orkid__> !mp3 | anonymeeee
[04:51] <ubotu> anonymeeee: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:51] <mkruskamp> I just installed xgl with gnome on ubuntu. I am running 1600x1200 res, but the font size in xgl is ridiculously big... any ideas?
[04:51] <eternale1> skel: is there a way to get to the regular login screen via a reboot instead of the forced root login screen via recovery mode?  I've only been able to get to the root login
[04:51] <Bacon5o_> ok
[04:51] <skel> eternale1: I've never used recovery mode =/
[04:52] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone: How do I find out my IP address?
[04:52] <Bacon5o_> so I cant get rid of GRUB
[04:52] <Bacon5o_> how queer is that
[04:52] <harrisony1> HaroldJohnson, yep
[04:52] <eternale1> skel: it was just the recovery mode from GRUB, which boots i guess a safe version of the kernel
[04:52] <AgentCy> HaroldJonhson, go to www.whatismyip.com :)
[04:52] <skel> eternale1: I just let whatever component fail then ctrl-alt-F2 etc
[04:52] <jldugger> Bacon5o, you can always overwrite the MBR
[04:52] <dudawifi> godmachine81: It worksssss
[04:52] <Bacon5o_> dugger _> I have no windows disc
[04:52] <skel> eternale1: oohh just boot your normal kernel
[04:52] <harrisony1> was gonna say the same thing
[04:52] <godmachine81> good deal
[04:52] <dudawifi> godmachine81:  THANKSSSSSSSS
[04:52] <dudawifi> :D:D:D
[04:52] <godmachine81> no prob
[04:52] <dudawifi> you are great
[04:53] <dudawifi> realy
[04:53] <harrisony1> if that doset work HaroldJohnson try http://www.whatsmyip.org/
[04:53] <skel> eternale1: or do ctrl-alt-f2-f6
[04:53] <AgentCy> see, godmachine81 is a hero :)
[04:53] <skel> eternale1: to get another console
[04:53] <HaroldJohnson> AgentCy: I don't have browser setup yet.
[04:53] <godmachine81> lol
[04:53] <godmachine81> AgentCy:: why do you keep saying that
[04:53] <eternale1> skel: ya, when i do that it sits on the console iwht a blinking cursor line but no login
[04:53] <HaroldJohnson> harrisony1: 'yep' is a command?
[04:53] <godmachine81> AgentCy:: did i help you with something before or something?
[04:53] <AgentCy> cuz i have a tough wireless problem for you hahaha
[04:53] <skel> eternale1: hmm.. you may have to reboot then =/
[04:53] <eternale1> skel: ok
[04:53] <eternale1> brb
[04:53] <eternale1> :\
[04:53] <AgentCy> if edgy ever updates
[04:53] <godmachine81> AgentCy:: i see what your getting at lmao
[04:53] <skel> eternale1: kk
[04:53] <AgentCy> lol
[04:53] <dudawifi> thank you for help me,
[04:54] <raghu> while i forward the movie which is streaming mplayer aborts pls solve the problem
[04:54] <harrisony1> HaroldJohnson, wha?
[04:54] <jldugger> Bacon2, what exactly is the problem?
[04:54] <Bacon5o_> dugger
[04:54] <dbmonk74> agentcy: I'm having problems with that - i can't even see the full screen when I'm running the command "suso dpkg-....
[04:54] <jldugger> bacon
[04:54] <Bacon5o_> when I remove ubuntu, I get a GRUB error
[04:54] <Bacon5o_> cause GRUB cant find the stupid kernel
[04:54] <HaroldJohnson> harrisony1: I'm just trying to transfer a file between two computers on the same network, but I don't know my Ubuntu computer's IP/network address.
[04:54] <AgentCy> dbmonk74, try hitting the auto button on your monitor
[04:54] <killown> linux no detect ip of pc in network with windows why?
[04:54] <jldugger> Bacon2, what would you like to have happen instead?
[04:54] <harrisony1> HaroldJohnson, http://www.whatsmyip.org/
[04:55] <harrisony1> :D
[04:55] <dbmonk74> agentcy: if it's that easy, i am going to turn in my geek card
[04:55] <AkumAPRIME> GREAT!!! I cant believe this is so bad. I just changed my resolution from 1280x800 to 1024x760 just to SEE what would happen. When I changed back, it Totally fragged my dual monitor setup
[04:55] <dbmonk74> bad geek!
[04:55] <Alpha3> haroldjohnson - ifconfig eth0
[04:55] <Bacon5o_> dugger remove GRUB altogether including ubuntu and have windows start normally?
[04:55] <HaroldJohnson> Alpha3: Thank you!
[04:55] <killown> help -me
[04:55] <dbmonk74> jldugger: I'm just checking into the native resolution
[04:55] <skel> Bacon5o_: fdisk /mbr with a livecd
[04:55] <AgentCy> dbmonk74, its hardly ever that easy :-p
[04:55] <jldugger> Bacon2, ok. you lost your windows cd?
[04:55] <jackyyll> hi, how do i use the multiverse sources?
[04:56] <Alpha3> jackyyll - edit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[04:56] <Bacon5o_> dugger I do not have my LIVE CD
[04:56] <harrisony1> jackyyll, add multiverse in ya sources.list
[04:56] <orkid__> are jigdo files for the DVDs available? (the finals, not the dailies)
[04:56] <Bacon5o_> err
[04:56] <Alpha3> jackyyll - remove the # from urls
[04:56] <Bacon5o_> windows CD
[04:56] <harrisony1> add it to the end that is
[04:56] <SlackRat> jackyyll:  very carefully :P
[04:56] <jackyyll> ooh
[04:56] <ckywalker> anyone setup snort ids on ubuntu
[04:56] <Alpha3> jackyyll - then run apt-get update
[04:56] <godmachine81> jackyyll:: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:56] <jldugger> well, the good news is that windows stores a backup copy in the first block of its partition
[04:56] <jldugger> the bad news is its a risky move
[04:56] <Bacon5o_> dugger, i dont like risk...
[04:57] <dbmonk74> jldugger: 1366 x 768
[04:57] <godmachine81> jackyyll:: in the lines that say edgy main   add multiverse and universe after main
[04:57] <dougb> bacon, you are back i see
[04:57] <jldugger> Bacon2, well, no risk wasnt an option any more the day you lost your windows cd :P
[04:57] <AgentCy> godmachine81, could you help me out with wireless too if you have the time? :)
[04:57] <Andruk> how do i start windowmaker?
[04:57] <godmachine81> jackyyll:: if your a complete n00b there is a way to enable them in synaptic afaik
[04:57] <skel> jldugger: can't he just wax the mbr?
[04:57] <jackyyll> thank you :)
[04:57] <jldugger> skel, what happens then?
[04:57] <godmachine81> been a couple years since i even loaded synaptic
[04:57] <godmachine81> heh
[04:57] <harrisony1> jackyyll, so one of mine is deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[04:57] <HaroldJohnson> What do I use to format a floppy disk so that I may store my Ubuntu backup on it?
[04:57] <jldugger> system boots from drive, sees no mbr, moves on to...?
[04:57] <Bacon5o_> I just want the original windows bootloader
[04:58] <HaroldJohnson> !format
[04:58] <skel> jldugger: lol something.. I've done it in the past to fix dual boot setups
[04:58] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:58] <asubedi> I installed and added compiz-start to my Session. However, I don't get any window decoration. Where do I add gnome-window-decoration?
[04:58] <Bacon5o_> dugger, when I remove ubuntu, GRUB cannot see linux kernel
[04:58] <harrisony1> HaroldJohnson,  you want to format a floppie?
[04:58] <Bacon5o_> doesn't do anything
[04:58] <jldugger> Bacon2, i know
[04:58] <HaroldJohnson> harrisony1: Yes, exactly.
[04:58] <skel> jldugger: not sure what it does.. but I've used fdisk /mbr as long as windows was the first OS
[04:58] <harrisony1> err 1 sec
[04:58] <HaroldJohnson> harrisony1: Command line app
[04:58] <dougb> bacon, you don't have your XP CD anymore?
[04:58] <harrisony1> gfloppy in terminal
[04:58] <jldugger> Bacon2, is there no option to boot windows at all in grub?
[04:58] <Bacon5o_> skel, I'm out of my league (its been awhile) at where would fdisk be applicable?
[04:59] <skel> jldugger: I think it looks for boot.ini in the first partition off the first drive in the chain
[04:59] <HaroldJohnson> harrisony1: Hmm...thanks!
[04:59] <Bacon5o_> dugger, I am in windows now
[04:59] <Bacon5o_> yes I can get in windows, but only with GRUB
[04:59] <jldugger> skeith, your bios can do no such thing
[04:59] <harrisony1> np
[04:59] <dougb> its because the Windows MBR doesn't add it by default
[04:59] <jldugger> Bacon2, good news. make some restore disks
[04:59] <dougb> you can add Linux to it though, you just have to edit a text file
[04:59] <skel> Bacon5o_: was windows on the first partition or installed after ubuntu?
[04:59] <skel> Bacon5o_: there's fdisk on the livecd but I don't know if that version has the /mbr option
[05:00] <Bacon5o_> skel, windows was installed first, on the master HD
[05:00] <Bacon5o_> ubuntu is on a slave
[05:00] <skel> Bacon5o_: ok then that *should* work.. may want to google fdisk /mbr
[05:00] <jldugger> Bacon2, just make sure you have a live cd of something lying around
[05:00] <Bacon5o_> live cd of ubuntu?
[05:00] <jldugger> Bacon5o_, ideally
[05:01] <Bacon5o_> yeah I have it
[05:01] <Bacon5o_> let me go do fdisk
[05:01] <Bacon5o_> and get back to you
[05:01] <chris0229> DBO here?
[05:01] <chris0229> :))
[05:02] <jldugger> i should go complain to microsoft that i cant get rid of their bootloader when i want to delete windows and lost my ubuntu cd
[05:02] <jackyyll> hmm... how do i install the gstreamer0.8-lame and the gstreamer0.8-mad packages? ;s
[05:02] <chris0229> DBO you here?
[05:02] <chris0229> :))
[05:02] <chris0229> DBO!!!!
[05:02] <harrisony1> jackyyll, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:02] <DBO> chris0229, hey im kinda busy, what do you need?
[05:02] <jackyyll> ah crap.. forgot the install part :p
[05:02] <chris0229> DBO how did we install no-ip
[05:03] <chris0229> :)
[05:03] <wastrel> i own a meteorite
[05:03] <DBO> erm you downloaded the installer and ran it afaik
[05:03] <harrisony1> just makesure you have universe enabled in ya sources.list
[05:03] <chris0229> DBO i am on gentoo :P
[05:03] <DBO> chris0229, thats unfortunate
[05:03] <chris0229> More fun
[05:03] <chris0229> :)
[05:03] <jldugger> does anyone know how gnome knows which programs should be run as root from the menu?
[05:03] <chris0229> Sabayon is awesome!
[05:04] <chris0229> DBo installing Ssh :)
[05:04] <harrisony1> jldugger, is would be in /sbin i think
[05:04] <ianmacgregor> jldugger: Either the menu entry begins with "gksu" or the app itself must be run with admin privs.
[05:04] <jldugger> harrisony1, they're not though.
[05:05] <jldugger> ianmacgregor, check out the System->Administriation menu
[05:05] <chris0229> Thanks DBO
[05:05] <chris0229> :)
[05:05] <ianmacgregor> jldugger: Ok.. your point?
[05:05] <jldugger> the entries don't have gksu/gksudo
[05:05] <DBO> chris0229, http://www.no-ip.com/downloads.php?page=linux  <--- download and install that
[05:05] <jldugger> ianmacgregor, my point is that mine don't work =(
[05:05] <nathanael> So.. if I have 5.10 running, will it automagically upgrade to 6.10?
[05:06] <jldugger> it does on my laptop though
[05:06] <nathanael> 'Cause it hasn't
[05:06] <SlackRat> nathianel no
[05:06] <HaroldJohnson> Okay, I'm having the worst time trying to simply copy my Ubuntu backup archive from my Mac (OS X) back to my fresh Ubuntu installation.  Anyone know of some tools I can use?  I thought it'd be easy to simply use sftp, which I usually use to do something like this, but I'm not having any luck with it.
[05:06] <SlackRat> upgrade to 6.06 then 6.10
[05:06] <nathanael> too much of a version diff?
[05:06] <nathanael> ah ok
[05:06] <skel> HaroldJohnson: scp ?
[05:06] <nathanael> Can I do that over the wire? (5.10 to 6.06)
[05:06] <ianmacgregor> jldugger: then I am guessing that the app itself has code in it to "if [ $ID -ne 0 ] ; then echo "this app must be run as root".. ie, it checks to see if the user who launched it has admin privs.
[05:06] <chris0229> DBO yup :)
[05:06] <skel> HaroldJohnson: or rsync over ssh
[05:06] <jldugger> ianmacgregor, it doesnt
[05:07] <ianmacgregor> jldugger: Have you studied the source code?
[05:07] <orkid__> nathanael, probably yes
[05:07] <skel> HaroldJohnson: scp localfile user@remotehost:/path/to/remote/location/filename
[05:07] <HaroldJohnson> skel: Do I need to enable ssh access on my fresh Ubuntu server install, or something?  'Cause I'm getting some error.
[05:07] <gypo> Help with vsftpd upload
[05:07] <gypo> please
[05:07] <skel> HaroldJohnson: yes, sshd will need to be running
[05:07] <dbmonk74> if i have an onboard video card (intel) should I be selecting VESA for x?
[05:07] <nathanael> now just to figure out how...
[05:07] <HaroldJohnson> skel: Know how I can get that running?  Thanks btw
[05:07] <orkid__> gypo, vim /etc/vsftpd.conf (or similar)
[05:08] <skel> HaroldJohnson: sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:08] <sontek> Hey do any of you guys know where the howto is for setting up my audio to work with multiple apps at the same time
[05:08] <skel> HaroldJohnson: np =] 
[05:08] <sontek> like dmix or whatever
[05:08] <Flats> me again... I just installed a very basic Ext USrobotice modem to my serial port.  Is there anything I have to do to get ubuntu to recognize it?
[05:08] <gypo> orkid what?
[05:08] <HaroldJohnson> skel: that enables it, too?
[05:08] <orkid__> gypo, (as super user), then /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart
[05:08] <hackel_> HaroldJohnson:  you only need sshd running on one of the machines.
[05:08] <orkid__> gypo, nm
[05:08] <Flats> err usrobotics
[05:08] <skel> HaroldJohnson: yeah it installs and starts it
[05:08] <skel> HaroldJohnson: so if you don't have a firewall in between that should be good to go
[05:09] <gypo> orkid ive already restarted but i cannot upload to my vsftpd server
[05:09] <TxTERMiNAOR> when I issue startx, I get the error "xinit: server error"
[05:09] <TxTERMiNAOR> please help
[05:09] <ianmacgregor> skel: Firestarter allows you to specify that another box needs to ssh in.. it's easy
[05:09] <skel> ianmacgregor: hm?
[05:09] <SlackRat> TxT, run xorgconfig on command line  and try other settings
[05:09] <ianmacgregor> skel: nvm
[05:10] <killown> linux not detect ip of network card to windows why?
[05:10] <skel> ianmacgregor: =] 
[05:10] <TxTERMiNAOR> ok SlackRat
[05:10] <gypo> orkid, are you there?
[05:10] <jldugger> ianmacgregor, i haven't audited the source code, and i suppose somewhere there is permission checking like that. my point is, somehow ive busted the trigger that made gnome run gksudo on those apps
[05:10] <xwred1_> i upgraded from dapper to edgy last night and i've had a strange raid problem
[05:10] <grndslm> Wow... "Listen" is an amazing audio player, better than rhythymbox, gmusicbrowser, exaile, quodlibet, xmms, amarok, and all the rest
[05:10] <xwred1_> is there any kind of sw raid breakage in edgy?
[05:10] <nathanael> Sweet! Got it to run! Upgrading to 6.06 (a VM in Parallels) then 6.10 later!
[05:10] <Bacon5o_> dugger
[05:10] <ianmacgregor> jldugger: How long has it been since you put in the admin password? That password is cached for a while
[05:11] <gypo> FTP Upload help
[05:11] <skel> Bacon5o_: any luck ?
[05:11] <TxTERMiNAOR> SlackRat : xorgconfig: command not found
[05:11] <nathanael> BTW - I highly recommend the mactel desktops - awesome
[05:11] <Tim90> Hey guys how do i make a short cut to and applcation
[05:11] <hackel_> grndslm: What makes it better?  Better than Banshee too?
[05:11] <Bacon5o_> skel, I cou;dnt not find a place where I could do a fdisk
[05:11] <jldugger> ianmacgregor, hmm. maybe its this gnome keyring crap from network manager
[05:11] <SlackRat> sudo xorgconfig
[05:11] <ianmacgregor> jldugger: Could very well be
[05:11] <Flats> me again... I just installed a very basic External USRobotics modem to my serial port.  Is there anything I have to do to get ubuntu to recognize it?
[05:11] <hackel_> nathanael:  if you don't mind paying the "Apple tax" since I presume you can't buy them without OS X pre-installed.
[05:11] <timfrost> TxTERMiNAOR: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:11] <skel> Bacon5o_: you have to open up a terminal and then fdisk the disk device that has your boot loader
[05:11] <TxTERMiNAOR> SlackRat : same problem
[05:12] <jldugger> ianmacgregor, but, the keyrings are named
[05:12] <nathanael> Right Click>Add This launcher to Desktop
[05:12] <SlackRat> try what tim said
[05:12] <TxTERMiNAOR> SlackRat : command not found
[05:12] <grndslm> hackel_, it just works well, and it's incredibly simple....some of them are very similar, but i'm impressed overall
[05:12] <gypo> Help with vsfptd upload-----------please
[05:12] <Bacon5o_> skel, I dont know anything about linux...
[05:12] <Bacon5o_> not one deal
[05:12] <TxTERMiNAOR> ok timfrost
[05:12] <nathanael> Well, yes, OSX is pre-installed, but you can't seriously hate on OSX?
[05:12] <skel> Bacon5o_: ok lemme get you an example
[05:12] <wastrel> i don't care for osx
[05:12] <Bacon5o_> fdisk /dev/hdb1?
[05:12] <nathanael> BSD subsystem?
[05:12] <AgentCy> can someone help me with wireless (cant find the chipset of my pcmcia card to begin with.....)
[05:12] <nathanael> Stability?
[05:12] <hackel_> grndslm:  I will give it a try. :)  Still waiting for Foobar for Linux.
[05:13] <nathanael> Non-microsoftiness?
[05:13] <nathanael> : )
[05:13] <wastrel> i crashed osx unrecoverably dragging an icon into the dock
[05:13] <chris0229> DBO whats Please enter an update interval ?
[05:13] <hackel_> nathanael:  I can hate any proprietary software.  I figured you were installing Ubuntu on your Mac box.
[05:13] <dwango> nathanael, non-free?
[05:13] <nathanael> Some things in life are worth the money
[05:14] <DBO> chris0229, uhhh whats it want, I spose every 2 hours would be fine
[05:14] <TxTERMiNAOR> timfrost : xorg-xserver is broken (it says so)
[05:14] <nathanael> Not all things are free - but I'm not here to open up THAT can... sorry
[05:14] <hackel_> nathanael:  Freedom has *absolutely* nothing to do with money.
[05:14] <skel> Bacon5o_: you don't have a windows95/98 boot floppy at all?
[05:14] <skel> Bacon5o_: if you did this would be really easy
[05:14] <Bacon5o_> skel, I dont have a floppy drive period
[05:14] <grndslm> hackel_, check it out:  http://listengnome.free.fr/ ... i used the dapper respos on edgy and it worked
[05:14] <chris0229> DBO shows Please enter an update interval:[30] 
[05:14] <jlmb> AgentCy, is the pccard inserted?
[05:14] <eternale1> skel: :\ i can't get gnome-session to load up, but i also can't get the normal kernel to load and allow me to login as a normal user. it won't let me jump to another consoel using the F's
[05:15] <wastrel> why would you install the dapper version instead of the edgy version
[05:15] <hackel_> grndslm:  Why, is the version in edgy not current?
[05:15] <AgentCy> jlmb, yes, and the LED is currently lit, but not blinking
[05:15] <killown> I want share internet with computer with windows how do it?
[05:15] <SlackRat> wastrel....stability?
[05:15] <eternale1> skel: the only way i can even get to a login is using the recovery mode from GRUB, which allows me to get here
[05:15] <skel> Bacon5o_: gah.. ok. I don't think you want to do it the linux way with dd, you could risk wiping your windows partition =/
[05:15] <dwango> nathanael, Ubuntu comes with no EULA that dictates which hardware I can/cannot run it on. That is free.
[05:15] <killown> hey
[05:15] <killown> help-me
[05:15] <skel> eternale1: what messages do you get on the standard kernel?
[05:15] <jlmb> AgentCy: try this: lspci -vvv | grep 802.11
[05:15] <Bacon5o_> well ya know skel
[05:16] <nathanael> I installed OSX on my Dell - THAT was free
[05:16] <Bacon5o_> this is the deal
[05:16] <grndslm> hackel_, i was unaware that it was in the official edgy repos....i've been reviewing ubuntuguide.org for the first time in several months and it was listed under the edgy section
[05:16] <jlmb> AgentCy: If it returns tooo much info, pm me that info.
[05:16] <jldugger> nathanael, and almost certainly illegal :P
[05:16] <Bacon5o_> I really dont care for the 10Go that Im losing with ubuntu
[05:16] <eternale1> well as far as i can tell the kernel loads up just fine, its just becoming frozen at the generic cross hairs
[05:16] <nathanael> :p
[05:16] <Bacon5o_> I just want windows to be the default starter when it runs out of time :)
[05:16] <jldugger> Bacon5o_, well thats an easy fix
[05:16] <hackel_> grndslm:  Well, probably not in Ubuntu but universe.  Either way, it installed fine. :)
[05:16] <Alpha3> nano /boot/grub/grub.conf change default to 1
[05:17] <skel> haha there is no /boot anymore
[05:17] <Bacon5o_> no no alpha, I want WINDOWS to be the default bot
[05:17] <AgentCy> jlmb, nothin
[05:17] <Bacon5o_> I'll figure it out tomarrow
[05:17] <Bacon5o_> seya guys
[05:17] <gu014> hello, i just upgraded to edgy..when i try to log in with GNOME i get looped back to the log-in screen everytime. other sessions such as KDE load fine...only GNOME(my default) gives me a loop back to the sign in screen.would anyone be able to offer any suggestions?
[05:17] <skel> how is he supposed to change the config? /root /boot are gone
[05:17] <nathanael> Either way - I've used all 3 major OS platforms extensively, and I have to say OSX takes the cake.
[05:17] <skel> Bacon5o_: night
[05:17] <grndslm> hackel_, interesting... that makes it even better IMO....
[05:17] <Bacon5o_> skel, an option in the LIVE CD
[05:17] <Alpha3> bacon, using ubuntu or nt bootloader
[05:18] <Bacon5o_> ubuntu
[05:18] <skel> Bacon5o_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261508
[05:18] <hackel_> gu014:  Probably need to rename your .gnome and .gconf directories and try again.
[05:18] <Alpha3> bacon, then edit your grub.conf .. lol
[05:18] <killown>  linux doesn't detect the ip of the network card of the pc with windows because this happens?
[05:18] <Bacon5o_> alpha
[05:18] <eternale1> skel: i can't remember the correct config file to say load up this x session instead of gnome, like point it to fluxbox instead or etc
[05:18] <Bacon5o_> ...I dont know @#$% about linux
[05:18] <skel> Alpha3: he removed ubuntu from the drive, but grub is still in place on the mbr
[05:18] <jldugger> Bacon5o_, how did you even "delete" ubuntu?
[05:18] <jlmb> AgentCy: ok try this. take the pccard out. type dmesg and check the ouput. Then reinsert the pccard and recheck the output. Give me the *new* info.
[05:18] <Alpha3> bacon - fdisk /mbr && /part
[05:19] <Alpha3> boot to 98 bootdisk & fdisk /mbr
[05:19] <skel> Alpha3: he's got no floppy drive =/
[05:19] <gu014> hackel_: how might i go about doing that?
[05:19] <Frem> Noooo! Fatal upgrade error!
[05:19] <Bacon5o_> dugger I deleted ubuntu by deleting the partition :D
[05:19] <Bacon5o_> probably the worst thing an idiot could do
[05:19] <jldugger> Bacon5o_, with what?
[05:19] <Bacon5o_> partition manager
[05:19] <dwango> killown, your network card isn't getting an IP address?
[05:19] <Alpha3> boot to xp cd, recovery mode, fdisk /mbr
[05:19] <gu014> hackel_: at ! i see .gnome and .gnome2
[05:19] <Bacon5o_> alpha
[05:19] <AgentCy> jlmb: pccard: card ejected from slot 0             pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0                  pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0
[05:19] <Bacon5o_> i dont have xpcd
[05:19] <jldugger> Bacon5o_, is that a windows program?
[05:19] <Bacon5o_> I dont have a floppy drive
[05:20] <Bacon5o_> dugger_> yes its a windows program
[05:20] <Alpha3> bacon, their free .. go d/l one
[05:20] <Bacon5o_> I'm on windows right now
[05:20] <Alpha3> this is the internet
[05:20] <killown> dwango yes
[05:20] <Jaws> Can someone confirm that the site pandora.com doesnt work?
[05:20] <dwango> killown: do you have a router?
[05:20] <Jaws> The flash...
[05:20] <skel> eternale1: hmm
[05:21] <jlmb> AgentCy: ummm ok. no good info provided. Which pccard model is it?
[05:21] <skel> eternale1: so if you login right as root in the recovery.. can you just do startx or gnome-session?
[05:21] <AgentCy> it is a gateway wbm-120
[05:21] <Bacon5o_> alpha
[05:21] <dwango> Jaws: appears to work here.
[05:21] <Bacon5o_> to get a winxp CD?
[05:21] <dwango> Jaws: did you install Flash 9?
[05:21] <hackel_> gu014:  Oh yes, sorry I forgot the 2!
[05:21] <jlmb> AgentCy: ok,  give me a second
[05:21] <AgentCy> apparently it uses prism2, but i have not verified that
[05:21] <Bacon5o_> i wouldn't even know where to get the damn ISO
[05:21] <Jaws> Im not sure
[05:21] <killown> dwango yes
[05:21] <eternale1> skel: when i attempt startx it just takes me to the same spot where the problem is
[05:21] <gu014> hackel_: i am not sure what i need to do to rename them?
[05:21] <eternale1> with the frozen generic mouse
[05:21] <dwango> Jaws: you'd remember if you did
[05:22] <dwango> Jaws: it's a manual process
[05:22] <Alpha3> bacon - d/l & install recovery console .. its free from m$'s site. it will add an entry to your ntloader boot to recovery console. then fdisk /mbr then fixboot
[05:22] <Jaws> dwango: I used Synaptic
[05:22] <Jaws> dwango: Well I guess not then...
[05:22] <dwango> Jaws: I don't believe Flash 9 is in the repository
[05:22] <Bacon5o_> how the heck to i get to my ntloader entries?
[05:22] <skel> Bacon5o_: http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm | http://www.bootdisk.com/ntfs.htm
[05:22] <Alpha3> bacon - http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=49AE8576-9BB9-4126-9761-BA8011FABF38&displaylang=en ( support tools )
[05:22] <dwango> Jaws: you can tell which version you have by going to "about:plugins" in firefox
[05:22] <skel> eternale1: so then its not gdm
[05:23] <Alpha3> bacon - it's hidden C:/boot.ini
[05:23] <Jaws> dwango: ok 1min
[05:23] <dwango> killown: what interfaces (besides lo) does "ifconfig" show?
[05:23] <skel> eternale1: it would seem to be X or gnome
[05:23] <hackel_> gu014:  From the console, e.g. "mv .gnome2 .gnome2.bak"
[05:23] <killown> dwango eth0 only
[05:23] <aum> hi - i'm looking for a graphical mp3 frame editor, but there seems to be nothing for linux - any ideas?
[05:23] <Frem> I'm only getting errors with this upgrade. Doing it w/ no network gives me an "Fatal Bug" error, doing it with the network gives this error: "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[05:23] <jlmb> AgentCy: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_hostif.php?hostif=PCMCIA
[05:23] <jlmb> AgentCy: for further references
[05:23] <eternale1> skel: hmm how can we narrow it down even more?
[05:23] <dwango> killown: what happens if you type "sudo ifup eth0"
[05:23] <skel> eternale1: well if X isn't giving you any logs =/ I'm not sure where gnome logs stuff
[05:23] <Jaws> dwango: Flash Movie player Version 0.4.12
[05:23] <Jaws> dwango: Guess thats the problem
[05:24] <dwango> Jaws: uh
[05:24] <dwango> heh
[05:24] <AgentCy> meh havent had much luck with linux-wlan :-/
[05:24] <exeakiel> What is kdesu?
[05:24] <jldugger> huh. apparently fdisk isnt in winXP
[05:24] <dwango> Jaws: that's probably Gnash?
[05:24] <exeakiel> Some sort of pakage?
[05:24] <dwango> Jaws: the GNU project
[05:24] <AgentCy> !linux-wlan
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <macd> exeakiel, su for kde.
[05:24] <jlmb> AgentCy: already tried linux-wlan?
[05:24] <jldugger> exeakiel, its a program that lets you run other programs as administrator / root
[05:24] <macd> jldugger, sure it is
[05:24] <orion_> !gdesklets
[05:24] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[05:24] <jldugger> macd, then its not in path
[05:24] <exeakiel> Whur would I get it?
[05:25] <AgentCy> jlmb, yeah awhile ago, still not sure if i set it up right or not
[05:25] <gu014> cd acd ~
[05:25] <exeakiel> Also, I'm a pirate.
[05:25] <Jaws> dwango: It says GPLFlash
[05:25] <skel> eternale1: what did you do to upgrade?  changed /etc/apt/sources.list to edgy, then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[05:25] <jlmb> AgentCy: Try installing linux-wlan-ng
[05:25] <macd> jldugger, thats a possibility, or if your on a OEM installed winxp it wont have it.
[05:25] <dwango> Jaws: uninstall that package
[05:25] <Jaws> dwango: ok
[05:25] <jldugger> macd, ah. tabletPC
[05:25] <jlmb> AgentCy: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/admin/linux-wlan-ng <--we are installing this.
[05:25] <eternale1> skel: i did gksu "update-manager -c"
[05:26] <eternale1> skel: something along those lines
[05:26] <xipietotec> is it just me, or is anyone else finding usplash in edgy to be buggy?
[05:26] <eternale1> i found it off a post on ubuntu forums
[05:26] <skel> eternale1: thats it? to upgrade to edgy ?
[05:26] <eternale1> it upgrade/installed around 1200 pacakges
[05:26] <AgentCy> jlmb i saw that,.. i just got this error after installing.... "PCMCIA bridge driver already present in kernel"
[05:26] <dwango> Jaws: download Flash 9 from http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:26] <PWill> xipietotec: Only bug I found is that it doesn't support 16:10
[05:26] <eternale1> skel: using the upgrade to ubuntu 6.1 update manager
[05:26] <dwango> (for Linux)
[05:26] <macd> jldugger, you can download a bootable cd or usb image with fdisk though. ;)
[05:27] <dwango> Jaws: installing is easy.  Just copy 'libflashplayer.so' to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[05:27] <jldugger> mac, im not worried. just thought it was wierd that it wasnt there
[05:27] <dwango> and restart firefox
[05:27] <Bacon5o_> ok skel
[05:27] <Bacon5o_> if you're still here
[05:27] <skel> eternale1: never used that, and I don't know that I trust it =/
[05:27] <Bacon5o_> where do I obtain the recovery console?
[05:27] <skel> Bacon5o_: yah
[05:27] <Jaws> dwango: Just that one file?
[05:27] <Bacon5o_> to do the fdisk
[05:27] <dwango> Jaws: yes
[05:27] <eternale1> skel: eek :\
[05:27] <Jaws> dwango: Alright sweet thanks alot man
[05:28] <jlmb> AgentCy: dpkg -l | grep linux-wlan
[05:28] <skel> Bacon5o_: you could try booting off a cd from the link I posted, you need a dos version of fdisk
[05:28] <dwango> Jaws: there is a readme.txt in the download that says how to install it as well
[05:28] <jlmb> AgentCy: show me ouput, if it too much, pm me.
[05:28] <jldugger> Bacon5o_, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/301654
[05:28] <Alpha3> bacon - http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=49AE8576-9BB9-4126-9761-BA8011FABF38&displaylang=en ( support tools )
[05:29] <Jaws> dwango: Great appreciate the help
[05:29] <skel> eternale1: if you want to try the old-fashioned way, vi /etc/apt/sources.list (:%s/<old-release/edgy/g) then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:29] <Frem> I've got limited bandwith and a CDROM of edgy. The CD is giving me errors, and upgrading over the network wants either 1.2 GIGABYTES for everything, or 350MB for the base system. I'd really like to use the CD. :-(
[05:29] <AgentCy> jlmb:  linux-wlan-ng   0.2.5-2ubuntu1  ultilities for wireless prism2 cards           linx-wlan-ng-doc      0.2.5-2ubuntu1  documentation for wlan-ng
[05:29] <xipietotec> I finally got usplash to stop displaying kubuntu's usplash, sorta...it still displays the text in kubuntu's theme, regardless of what usplash theme I use
[05:29] <eternale1> skel: when i check out apt-get update, it shows all the urls , they all point to edgy versions of the url... then when i do dist-upgrade its just got some random packages that were held back..
[05:30] <eternale1> skel: nothing that seems to important, gkrellm :\ , proftpd :\ , mplayer, libggi2
[05:30] <eternale1> but then again i have no idea what libggi2 is used for
[05:31] <skel> eternale1: hmm yeah double check to make sure you don't have any other release lines in your sources.list
[05:31] <jlmb> AgentCy: take the pccard out
[05:31] <skel> eternale1: otherwise, I personally would just move forward
[05:31] <skel> eternale1: do you have all your personal stuff on a seperate partition?
[05:31] <jlmb> AgentCy: check if any linux-wlan modules are loaded with lsmod
[05:32] <whateve1> Hi folks. Having problems installing Etch. I'm doing an Installation/FromSSH (using the LiveCD as the base system), and hwen I go to chroot, I get a seg fault. Any ideas for a workaround?
[05:32] <exeakiel> Error:
[05:32] <exeakiel> Could not launch menu item
[05:32] <exeakiel> Details: failed to execute child process
[05:32] <anuvismh> http://alts.homelinux.net/
[05:32] <exeakiel> "kdesu" [no such file, or directory] 
[05:32] <skel> eternale1: I make /home and /opt seperate partitions so if something gets fubar'd I can always do a fresh install and not format those mount-points
[05:32] <AlReece45> Anyone have any idea why I have a kubuntu startup splash and a ubuntu shutdown splash (I want ubuntu startup)/
[05:32] <xipietotec> whateve1: try #debian
[05:32] <witless> are there instructions for installing xgl/compiz on edgy with nvidia?
[05:32] <nomasteryoda|w> AlReece45, because you installed some kde stuff
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> !xgl
[05:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:33] <whateve1> Sorry, not Etch, I meant Edgy
[05:33] <xipietotec> AlReece45: because usplash is buggy
[05:33] <witless> Wicked: thanks
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[05:33] <AlReece45> lol
[05:33] <eternale1> skel: ya sources.list show all edgy urls, i have no seperate partitions for home but really if need be i could just tar up what i want and ftp it to a remote machine elsewhere.... i'm just really hoping it doesn't come down to a complete reinstall
[05:33] <Wicked> ...
[05:33] <AgentCy> jlmb, doesnt appear so.. got the same message as last time
[05:33] <eternale1> skel: there just has to be something thats causing this
[05:33] <jlmb> AgentCy: when you reinserted it?
[05:33] <AlReece45> any tips on how to get the ubuntu splash back?
[05:33] <wastrel> how do i disable usplash?
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> witless, try this ... type wicked and press tab
[05:34] <xipietotec> It still doesn't work correctly.
[05:34] <AgentCy> jlmb, correct
[05:34] <eternale1> skel: i'm hoping someone else has come up with the same situation on the boards somewhere... or elsewhere
[05:34] <xipietotec> AlReece45: here, lemme copy and paste a guide I've been using to you
[05:34] <witless> heh, that's what i did
[05:34] <AlReece45> k
[05:34] <Wicked> :/
[05:34] <jlmb> AgentCy: give me a second
[05:34] <Wicked> one moment >_>
[05:34] <AgentCy> jlmb, ok
[05:35] <Shisno> Now type wicked + tab :p
[05:35] <exeakiel> Anyone know of a good grey/black startup?
[05:35] <witless> wickedpuppy: any idea if i should use AIGLX or Xgl?  card is a GeForce 6800
[05:35] <dbmonk74> total noob question here - once I've run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (due to monitor issues) - what do I do next to complete the loading of the live CD?
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> witless, try both... i have used xgl under suse but not under ubuntu
[05:35] <eternale1> skel: is there a way to bypass the gdm login and take me directly to a console login , then have fluxbox load up instead of gnome?
[05:35] <witless> wickedpuppy: thx
[05:36] <plato> just a general question here: what's the policy on integration of newer releases of software making their way into the repositories.  it seems like the repositories are pretty static until it comes time for a new release, and all the updates are piled into a repository for said release.
[05:36] <skel> eternale1: hmm you could go to /etc/rc3.d and unlink S13gdm
[05:36] <tritium> plato: only security fixes after stable release
[05:36] <xipietotec> AlReece45: you're identified right? <---just sent it to you in pm
[05:36] <Abst> Is there a command to tell what distro a server is running
[05:37] <AlReece45> uh, I got it
[05:37] <dbmonk74> anyone? :)
[05:37] <tritium> Abst: lsb_release -a
[05:37] <skel> Abst: cat /etc/debian_version
[05:37] <AlReece45> xipietotec: i got it
[05:37] <jldugger> Abst, remotely?
[05:37] <Abst> skel: It may or may not be debian
[05:37] <SAM_theman> ubotu, flash
[05:37] <whateve1> Hi folks. Having problems installing Edgy. I'm doing an Installation/FromSSH (using the LiveCD as the base system), and hwen I go to chroot, I get a seg fault. Any ideas for a workaround?
[05:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:37] <skel> Abst: ah then I usually just do uname -a, you can usually tell from the kernel
[05:37] <Abst> jldugger: Yes
[05:37] <tritium> Abst: use the lsb_release -a command.  EVery distro should have it.
[05:37] <plato> tritium: then would building from source be the best way to acquire updates for newer software, then?
[05:37] <Abst> tritium: This doesnt
[05:38] <jlmb> AgentCy: lets see if it the card has been "magically" detected. Check with iwconfig
[05:38] <jldugger> Abst, netcraft
[05:38] <wastrel> hoary doesn't have it
[05:38] <tritium> Abst: okay, so you have an LSB incomplient distro
[05:38] <wastrel> tritium:  ^^
[05:38] <Abst> tritium: Hehe
[05:38] <Abst> jldugger: Not found
[05:38] <tritium> wastrel: yep
[05:38] <willbreathe> my cd's read but they won't write on dapper , any clues ?
[05:38] <jldugger> Abst, its a company foo. as in "netcraft confirms it: BSD is dying!"
[05:39] <skel> Abst: he's saying use netcraft.net and put in the ip
[05:39] <jldugger> if you've got local access, that wouldn't be remote :P
[05:39] <AgentCy> jlmb, negative ghost rider
[05:39] <skel> Abst: whats the output of uname -a   ?
[05:39] <mike_> Anyone available that can give me some quick pointers with enlightenment?
[05:39] <Abst> Skel: I tried that
[05:39] <Abst> Its just GNU/Linux
[05:40] <dbmonk74> sorry to ask again - total noob question here - once I've run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (due to monitor issues) - what do I do next to complete the loading of the live CD?
[05:40] <skel> Abst: debian
[05:40] <Jaws> dwango: Is there a trick to getting firefox to see the plugin?  I have tried it in both the places in they said in the readme, and firefox isnt loading them
[05:40] <Abst> skel: Tis too
[05:40] <Abst> apt-get --version
[05:40] <dwango> Jaws: are you sure you completely closed firefox?
[05:40] <plato> tritium: case in point would be gaim.  edgy was shipped with 2.0beta3.  wouldn't the final release, or even beta 4 (which has since been released) be naturally considered in some respects a security fix?
[05:40] <Andypat10> im having trouble installing the drivers for my ati 9250 i looked on the forums and i they reccomended i do
[05:40] <Andypat10> sudo aptitude update
[05:40] <Andypat10> sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:40] <Andypat10> but after that i get
[05:40] <Andypat10> E: Sub-process /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true returned an error code (100)
[05:40] <Andypat10> E: Failure running script /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true
[05:40] <Andypat10> A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[05:40] <dwango> every instance of it
[05:40] <Abst> I wonder why it didnt have the debian version thing
[05:41] <Jaws> well i closed the window
[05:41] <skel> Abst: are you trying to figure out how to identify any linux server to script it?
[05:41] <tritium> plato: not likely
[05:41] <jldugger> Abst: could be a very old install
[05:41] <Abst> skel: No, I just want to know what my host runs
[05:41] <Jaws> dwango: Does that not end the process?
[05:41] <mike_> anyone with some knowledge in the enlightenment display system please help me, would be appreciated :)
[05:41] <dwango> Jaws: not necessarily..
[05:41] <jldugger> or it could be somethnig that isnt debian
[05:41] <skel> Abst: ah ok.. so some version of debian then I'd guess, are you sure there's not /etc/debian_version ?
[05:41] <dwango> Jaws: try "ps aux | grep firefox"
[05:41] <Abst> Yeah Im sure
[05:41] <dwango> to see if its still running
[05:41] <AgentCy> jlmb: any other ideas? :-/
[05:41] <Abst> Not found
[05:41] <Jaws> dwango: k 1 min
[05:41] <hoov> does anyone have a wifi card suggestion that "just works" with wpa support.  I couldn't get my current card to work with dapper, after trying many things, and after reading some threads at ubuntuforums thought it might be an issue that would be resolved in edgy.  so I've given up.  any hardware suggestions?
[05:42] <AlReece45> xipietotec: thanks it worked
[05:42] <plato> tritium: then are there any other repositories one should look to for newer releases, or is building from source the best option?
[05:42] <tritium> plato: aside from edgy-backports, no
[05:42] <jldugger> Abst, look at sources.list
[05:42] <jldugger> where do they point?
[05:43] <skel> hoov: there's many different authentication schemes for wpa.. to ask for a config wizard for something that "just works" is like asking for a common procedure to fix all brain tumors
[05:43] <Abst> Its sarge
[05:43] <xipietotec> AlReece45: cool, although you may still show kubuntu's colors on the text if you're running in verbose
[05:43] <xipietotec> like it does on mine
[05:43] <plato> tritium: okay, thanks.  you've been most helpful.  i've been searching the forums for days to find out the answer to that question.
[05:43] <jlmb> AgentCy: I'm checking docs for your card. Try rebooting and then reinserting the card
[05:43] <AgentCy> jlmb, i found this tutorial for my card on fedora, but now ubuntu uses pcmcia-utils instead
[05:43] <tritium> plato: :)
[05:43] <skel> hoov: is this psk with tkip? are you using radius? etc etc
[05:43] <jlmb> AgentCy: Give me the url
[05:43] <AgentCy> jlmb: http://nakedape.cc/wiki/FedoraNotes
[05:44] <skel> hoov: its not so much the card as it is your setup
[05:44] <Jaws> dwango: Ok, I put what you said into the terminal, made sure that the process was ended, and its still not working...
[05:44] <hoov> skel: psk with tkip
[05:44] <killown> my card is sudance encore enl832-tx-icnt  what modules I can up?
[05:44] <skel> hoov: but the intel wireless chipsets seem to work nice, as well as the cisco aironet and any of the orinoco chipsets
[05:44] <skel> hoov: what kernel version btw? is this edgy?
[05:44] <dwango> Jaws, hmm, what does "about:plugins" show?
[05:45] <skel> hoov: before dapper the standard kernel couldn't support wpa very well for most chipsets
[05:45] <dwango> Jaws: are you sure you have read permission for the file?
[05:45] <hoov> I'm running edgy now.  I can get the card to connect, via wep, but my preference would be wpa.
[05:46] <Jaws> dwango: It has the totem browser plugin, the RealPlayer plugin, Windwos Media Player, DivX, and Quicktime
[05:46] <skel> hoov: have you tried http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136 ?
[05:46] <jlmb> AgentCy: weird, it mentions orinoco_cs not linux-wlan
[05:46] <hoov> The card by the way, is a dlink dwl-g630.  with the athos chipset
[05:46] <eternale1> skel: i removed the link to gdm from /etc/rc4.d .... same results :\ arrrgggggghhhh!
[05:46] <SAM_theman> ubotu, vmware
[05:46] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[05:46] <chapium> does anyone know how to setup an alarm in ubuntu?  Something that could wake someone up
[05:46] <Jaws> dwango: Im not sure, and Im not sure how to check...
[05:46] <dwango> Jaws: did you extract the file with sudo?
[05:46] <NDPowerBook> Nice. I like this updated version of X-Chat Aqua.
[05:46] <_Luks> OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'
[05:46] <_Luks> what does it means ?
[05:46] <skel> eternale1: why rc4.d ?
[05:47] <AgentCy> jlmb, i know :).. thats why i dont know what chipset this uses to be honest
[05:47] <skel> isnt 3 the default runlevel ?
[05:47] <jdrake> There was a kde disk utility that displays a pie chart of disk usage that somebody here pointed out two days ago. Does anyone recall its name?
[05:47] <Jaws> dwango: I extracted it with archive manager
[05:47] <jlmb> AgentCy: lol, ok
[05:47] <eternale1> skel: 3 i mean.
[05:47] <eternale1> mistype
[05:47] <skel> eternale1: ok
[05:47] <feross> chapium: hmm you can probably set cron to play a tune at a certain time
[05:47] <dwango> Jaws: well, that should work
[05:47] <skel> eternale1: so it still tries to start gdm then? hmm thats odd
[05:47] <Jaws> dwango: When I right click it says the owner is root, group is root
[05:48] <dwango> what are the permissions?
[05:48] <jlmb> AgentCy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%29#check
[05:48] <jlmb> AgentCy: did you check that out? we need to verify your chipset
[05:48] <eternale1> skel: ya... it shows the ubuntu logo and the progress bar then flashes to the generic looking mouse crosshairs, then refreshes a few times then freezes... i'm wondering if its even getting to starting gdm
[05:48] <dwango> they look like "rwxr-xr-x"
[05:48] <AgentCy> jlmb, one sec
[05:49] <alanhaggai> how to download and install xorg.deb from the terminal? My xserver is not loading since I upgraded to Edgy. Please help.
[05:49] <skel> eternale1: oh yeah.. I forgot it uses upstart now
[05:49] <Jaws> dwango: Alright well I will keep messing with it some more
[05:49] <chi0_> hello all
[05:49] <feross> hoov: if you have to connect to several wifi locations easily I use NetworkManager.. it's awsome, works great with WPA too.
[05:49] <skel> eternale1: no more of the init system
[05:49] <skel> eternale1: well shit..
[05:49] <skel> eternale1: hang on
[05:49] <Andypat10> im having trouble installing the drivers for my ati 9250 i looked on the forums and i they reccomended i do, sudo aptitude update then sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx but after that i get
[05:49] <Andypat10> E: Sub-process /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true returned an error code (100)
[05:49] <Andypat10> E: Failure running script /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true
[05:49] <Andypat10> A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[05:49] <Andypat10> Any suggestions im trying to enable open gl 3d rendering on my card
[05:49] <eternale1> skel: ok cool
[05:49] <skel> anyone know anything about this upstart deal (googling too)
[05:50] <Abst> Whats all this about using keys instead of passwords for logins? I don't see a keyhole on my computer...
[05:50] <dwango> Jaws: Since the file is owned by root, you might not have read permissions for it as your normal user
[05:50] <AgentCy> jlmb, i believe ubuntu has switched over to pcmcia-utils since this was written
[05:50] <dwango> Jaws: try `sudo chmod 755 ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so`
[05:50] <hoov> feorss: yep, that's I like it too.
[05:50] <Jaws> dwango: ok
[05:50] <UFO64> Abst, i am guessing they use USB security keys
[05:50] <alanhaggai> how to download and install xorg.deb from the terminal? My xserver is not loading since I upgraded to Edgy. Please help.
[05:51] <Abst> !keys
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <alanhaggai> !xserver
[05:51] <skel> !upstart
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[05:51] <kevin> Does anybody know if the trash icon bug has been fixed?
[05:51] <wastrel> alanhaggai:  what happens when you type startx
[05:51] <jlmb> AgentCy: lshw didn't  work?
[05:51] <coz_> kevin, wht bug
[05:51] <alanhaggai> one minute wastrel
[05:52] <_Luks> OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'
[05:52] <_Luks> what is it ??
[05:52] <kevin> coz_ the one that shows the trash icon always empty
[05:52] <coz_> kevin, are you on dapper or edgy
[05:52] <gu014> I just upgraded to edgy and after attempting to log in with my default session(GNOME) i continuously get looped back to the sign in screen. With any other session such as KDE i am able to login without issue. Just when i try and log in with GNOME i enter my user name and password and the screen goes black...hangs for a few seconds and then goes directly back to the sign-in screen??
[05:52] <Jaws> dwango: Alright well that gave me permission to it, but still nothing in firefox
[05:52] <alanhaggai> wastrel, I will logout and relogin. A small problem
[05:52] <kevin> coz_ edgy
[05:53] <coz_> kevin, I hve no bug for the trash how did you install?
[05:53] <skel> anyone know where the upstart config files are located? supposedly its event.d but I don't have an /etc/event*
[05:53] <kevin> coz_ using a cd
[05:53] <eternale1> skel: it seems like there are people having issues that somewhat relate to mine i think... unclear if its exactly related
[05:53] <coz_> kevin, yes, but is this a single install. a dual boot. etc/
[05:53] <Keyseir> .
[05:54] <rando_> Any font experts in here? Using Bitstream Mono for my terminal font looks great on gentoo. On ubuntu (eft), with identical settings, it looks horrible. I'm new to fonts on linux, so I'm only just leaning freetype, fontconfig, xft and all that.
[05:54] <AgentCy> jlmb, didnt show anything of value
[05:54] <skel> eternale1: I saw a couple of submitted bugs in relation to the update manager for edgy.. but I wasn't clear if they were resolved
[05:54] <kevin> coz_ it's a dual boot with xp
[05:54] <coz_> kevin, ok that is exactly my set up as well
[05:54] <chi0_> does any 1 know how i can setup a ATI Radeon Xpress 200M  w/ kubuntu?
[05:54] <kevin> coz_ mm
[05:54] <coz_> kevin, did you use the live cd install or the alternative install cd
[05:54] <jlmb> AgentCy: I'd try rebooting the notebook since it seems that another module is already loaded
[05:55] <kevin> coz_ both and I get the bug
[05:55] <rando_> does anyone know what gentoo does differently from ubuntu/debian, regarding fonts?
[05:55] <eternale1> skel:  i have event.d/  not much in there but small runlevel scripts calling the other runlevels
[05:55] <dbmonk74> can anyone advise on what to do after booting from LiveCD and having to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to fix the monitor?
[05:55] <dbmonk74> i'm at a loss and I can't find anything on the forums
[05:56] <skel> eternale1: supposedly thats where gdm will get called from
[05:56] <Frem> chi0_: Ubuntu set up mine fine. Or are you asking about 3d accelleration?
[05:56] <eternale1> skel: hmm
[05:56] <coz_> kevin well then either the cd downloads are corrupted, did you check the md5sums. or there is a conflict withe hardware, drivers etc
[05:56] <charle97> dbmonk, i'd do a full reinstall
[05:56] <gevaudan> What does everyone use in order to manage their wifi connections and store keys in ubuntu/gnome? I've used the kde wifi assistent in teh past but am curious to gnome alternatives?
[05:56] <coz_> kevin, tell me more. hve youinstalled anything since the initial install of edgy
[05:56] <derviche> hello, i just installed Edgy Eft on these computer, but during the instalation i gont an arror and i had the computer, is there a way to see if everything is installed ok?
[05:56] <kevin> coz_ no I did not
[05:56] <kevin> coz_ no
[05:56] <skel> vertigo: you upgraded with apt-get dist-upgrade right?
[05:57] <dbmonk74> charlie: i haven't gotten to the actual install portion
[05:57] <derviche> i upgraded with gksu "update-manager -c"
[05:57] <dbmonk74> i'm just booting from the livecd
[05:57] <charle97> dbmonk, oh sorry
[05:57] <Andypat10> anyone kno how to install the drivers for an ati 9250 (3D rendering wanted)
[05:57] <dbmonk74> no, np :)
[05:57] <skel> did anyone else using apt-get dist-upgrade not get upstart ?
[05:57] <lukeb> how do I make VLC my default player for .WMVS please?????
[05:57] <dbmonk74> ty for answering
[05:57] <derviche> but i had an error and i had to restart
[05:57] <charle97> dbmonk, i've never used the livecd
[05:58] <coz_> kevin, well then this is a problem on your end,.  without being there I may not be able to help.. if you have problem doing this. re dowunload the cd and try a fresh install erasing the partition. thorough the install procedure
[05:58] <derviche> now it seems ok
[05:58] <dbmonk74> i boot from live CD, then it says I can't use X - so i run the reconfig, and then I am not sure what to do next
[05:58] <gevaudan> luke: right click, open in another program then the third tab i think it is
[05:58] <kevin> coz_ no I did not md5sums
[05:58] <chi0_> does any 1 know how i can setup a ATI Radeon Xpress 200M  w/ kubuntu?
[05:58] <kevin> coz_ I'm going to redownload it
[05:58] <coz_> kevin, ok  since I assume this is a fresh install them you wont' have to much trouble reinstalling
[05:59] <lukeb> gevaudan, i meant in bubuntu
[05:59] <dbmonk74> i've got a command line - but i dunno what to enter in to get ubunto to load from there
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> !ati
[05:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:59] <coz_> kevin, that may be the first step in finding out exactly why this happened
[05:59] <kevin> coz_  see this ---> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bug/34247
[06:00] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, startx ?
[06:00] <dbmonk74> it would be that easy, wouldn't it.
[06:00] <dbmonk74> *twap*
[06:00] <skel> eternale1: I'm going to restart quick.. brb
[06:00] <dbmonk74> sorry. i haven't touched linux in about  6 years
[06:00] <eternale1> skel: alright no problem
[06:00] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, then try 'man touch' .... jk jk :P
[06:01] <delaney> Is anyone aware of a command line way to recieve output describing your monitors refresh rate?
[06:01] <charle97> dbmonk, so what's making you touch ubuntu?
[06:01] <lukeb> gevaudan, oh thanks, gotcha mate
[06:01] <coz_> kevin, I see that. interesting though, I would assume a conflict with some piece of hardware. it may beminor  the reason I say that is I have the identical install as you and do not have that problem and I have already reainstalled 12 times to try to find the bugs in edgy and beryl
[06:02] <charlie5> hello ... can i increase the default stack size for apps in Ubuntu ?
[06:02] <coz_> kevin, so I really cannot do anything from this end . unless someone here has already had the experience and fixed it or figured out what the problem coudl be for thoses tha have this problem
[06:02] <dbmonk74> lol
[06:03] <kevin> coz_  well I have no problem getting that bug
[06:03] <dbmonk74> charle97: I'm tired of windows and it was reccomended to me
[06:03] <dbmonk74> hrm xstart - no such command
[06:03] <charle97> dbmonk, startx
[06:03] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, startx ... not xstart
[06:03] <dbmonk74> aw, crap
[06:03] <kevin> coz_  :(
[06:03] <UFO64> !macbookpro
[06:03] <Jaws> dwango: Was hoping restarting gnome would maybe fix it, but it didnt
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macbookpro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, should i tell you about bash auto-complete too ?
[06:03] <dbmonk74> i blame that on the beer and shots from last night. boozahol dyslexia
[06:04] <UFO64> what version should i use on a intel mac?
[06:04] <UFO64> an*
[06:04] <dbmonk74> hit tab while typing to auto complete?
[06:04] <AgentCy> jlmb, how would i append something to the boot line?
[06:04] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, bingo .. if you were doing it as you were typing xst you will see there is no such command as xstart
[06:05] <dbmonk74> i need to redeem myself to keep my geek card... *sigh*
[06:05] <dbmonk74> yay!
[06:05] <dbmonk74> it's working!
[06:05] <progek> Hello all, quick question before upgrading to edgy. Will it effect any settings or packages I currently have installed? For example, I have MySQL, Apache web server, software development tools for SDL, Java, C/C++ among other things. Will it be safe to just to a dist upgrade?
[06:05] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, honestly , ubuntu isn't for geeks .. i would say other distros .. i would name no names :P
[06:06] <AgentCy> lol
[06:06] <gevaudan> What does everyone use in order to manage their wifi connections and store keys in ubuntu/gnome? I've used the kde wifi assistent in teh past but am curious to gnome alternatives?
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> progek, mine went fine ... others NOT .. so we can't tell ya
[06:06] <progek> hm. ok, thanks wicked
[06:06] <AgentCy> how do i append a parameter to the boot line?
[06:06] <eXcentra> gevaudan, i just use network-manager
[06:07] <skel> eternale1: anything in events.d ?
[06:07] <leighaquarius> has anyone here got Call of Duty 2 working under wine?
[06:07] <eternale1> skel: nope not much
[06:07] <gevaudan> eXcentra: that's not installed by default is it? i'll try...i just tried wifi radar but it was very buggy on a brand new edgy install
[06:07] <eternale1> skel: there are some files but nothing like a config
[06:07] <Exeakiel> How do you install a plugin into The Gimp?
[06:08] <wickedpuppy> Exeakiel, #gimp
[06:08] <skel> eternale1: well not config but anything that would execute gdm that you can disable?
[06:08] <Exeakiel> No, I mean, it ubuntu blocks me from it.
[06:08] <coz_> Exeakiel, what plug in do you want to install
[06:08] <eXcentra> gevaudan, i don't know; i installed it myself. i think in edgy it might come default
[06:08] <Exeakiel> Planet render
[06:08] <_3uG_> Exeakiel, the best way would to use apt-get.. there's a list of plugins if you do this:
[06:08] <chapium> anyone in eastern indiana know what time it is?
[06:08] <wickedpuppy> Exeakiel, how does it block you ? gimp is gimp ...
[06:09] <coz_> Exeakiel, and is this a photoshop plugin?
[06:09] <_3uG_> apt-get install gimp|grep plugin
[06:09] <eternale1> skel: it seems to be all broken down by runlevels not specific processes for each level
[06:09] <Exeakiel> No, python script
[06:09] <_3uG_> chapium, that area is in the eastern time zone
[06:09] <_3uG_> chapium, so i guess it'd be around 1 or 12, depending on whether or not you've changed your clocks yet
[06:09] <coz_> Exeakiel, oh then I believe there should be a read me file that comes with the plugin no?
[06:09] <dbmonk74> thanks for the help so far guys - now... how do i get out of 640x480? it doesn't seem to present any other options
[06:09] <dbmonk74> i assume i need to find drivers?
[06:09] <Exeakiel> Nope, just the python
[06:10] <chapium> _3uG_: i dont want to get up an hour off
[06:10] <chapium> :(
[06:10] <skel> eternale1: hmm ok
[06:10] <Zesty> Why does compiling a c++ script (with a class) result in : '/tmp/ccKXgGza.o: In function `main':main.cpp:(.text+0x50): undefined reference to `test::echo(std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >)'?
[06:10] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, yes .. for your graphics card .. then install them
[06:10] <_3uG_> chapium, then set your clock back one hour now
[06:10] <Jaws> Anyone have any ideas on how to get Firefox to see the flash 9 plugin, I have it in the ~/.mozilla/plugins directory but firefox doesnt load it
[06:10] <wickedpuppy> Zesty, i would recommend ##c++
[06:10] <timfrost> jaws,
[06:10] <wickedpuppy> Zesty, btw pls don't say C++ script .. its not scripting language :P
[06:11] <Zesty> wickedpuppy, it seems much more refined to the *buntu environment.
[06:11] <wickedpuppy> Zesty, where you ask is up to you ... i can only recommend what i think its best place to ask
[06:11] <Exeakiel> error while copying to "usr/share/g.../2.0/scripts".
[06:12] <Zesty> What would you prefer I named it wickedpuppy?
[06:12] <Exeakiel> You do not have permissions to write to this folder.
[06:12] <skel> Zesty: what component of ubuntu is this ?
[06:12] <alanhaggai> wastrel : X server is now disabled. Restart GDM when it is configured correctly
[06:12] <timfrost> jaws, I have it installed in the system directories: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so and  /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so are symlinks that point to the file /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so (I installed flashplayer-nonfree frm Seveas repository)
[06:12] <wickedpuppy> Zesty, btw how do you expect us to debug your error without seeing the whole program ? i wonder if anyone can do this
[06:12] <coz_> Exeakiel, right there are 2 ways to remedy that
[06:12] <Zesty> skel, using g++
[06:13] <coz_> Exeakiel, may I pm you
[06:13] <rrittenhouse> When i do an upgrade from say breezy to dapper, does that actually change *everything*...i did notice the actual theme was not changed (and wasnt aware if i could change it afterwards)
[06:13] <bo1> hello... i have a question about bridging using brctl... can anyone help me out?
[06:13] <Exeakiel> On a forum?
[06:13] <skel> Zesty: so to clarify, you wrote a program in C++ and are compiling it and have an error and want help debugging it?
[06:13] <Exeakiel> Otherwise yes
[06:13] <charlie5> mmm, do i have to re-compile the kernel to change default stack size ?
[06:13] <skel> Zesty: or linking it rather
[06:13] <wastrel> alanhaggai:  you need to fix your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file - do you have nvidia or ati?
[06:13] <Jaws> timfrost: Is that flash 9?  In the install readme there is nothing about needing flasplugin-nonfree
[06:13] <Zesty> No skel, the program should compile, but I receive the former error
[06:13] <Carbonflux> you need the #C++ channel
[06:13] <wickedpuppy> lol
[06:14] <alanhaggai> wastrel : I have nVidia GeForce 6200
[06:14] <skel> Zesty: as I asked before, what program are you compiling?
[06:14] <xipietotec> what is flash9 called in sev's repo anyway?
[06:14] <coz_> Exeakiel, do you see the tab on xchat if you are on xchat
[06:14] <wickedpuppy> skel his own i think
[06:14] <Alakazamz0r> http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+osx%2C+debian%2C+gentoo%2C+mandriva%2C+freebsd&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
[06:14] <_3uG_> does anyone know how to get the sidewinder controller to work in edgy? it worked *just fine* in dapper, but i can't get it to work in edgy
[06:14] <chuckles2007> why is us.archive.ubuntu.com so slow and is there a way around it?
[06:14] <alanhaggai> wastrel : so what should I do?
[06:14] <wastrel> alanhaggai:  you should follow the nvidia howto - can you read web pages?
[06:14] <Exeakiel> I'm chatzilla, it says I need to register.
[06:15] <coz_> Exeakiel, yes you need to register you nic before i can pm you
[06:15] <alanhaggai> wastrel : I am using the terminal :(
[06:15] <skel> wickedpuppy: =P so I think he wants help debugging his code but I can't be sure
[06:15] <wastrel> alanhaggai:  you know how to switch to another virtual terminal?  alt-f2,    alt-f1, etc ?
[06:15] <wickedpuppy> skel, not without seeing the whole code ...
[06:15] <Jaws> timfrost: also, is the owner root on the plugins or are they to your user
[06:15] <alanhaggai> yes wastrel
[06:15] <shadok> use lynx or w3m
[06:16] <Exeakiel> I registered
[06:16] <chuckles2007> anyone...?
[06:16] <alanhaggai> ok Shadok
[06:16] <wastrel> alanhaggai:  yes, lynx or w3m  can open web pages.  and go to this link...
[06:16] <timfrost> jaws, yes, that is flash 9.  You probably don't need Seveas package although I did install it.  Firefox reports '    File name: libflashplayer.so    Shockwave Flash 9.0 d55'
[06:16] <Lubix> hey
[06:16] <wastrel> !nvidia | alanhaggai
[06:16] <ubotu> alanhaggai: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:16] <Lubix> whats up peoples?!
[06:16] <chuckles2007> is there an alternative to us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[06:16] <_3uG_> try taking the us off of it
[06:16] <wickedpuppy> chuckles2007, change the country code
[06:16] <dbmonk74> okay... one last q tonight i promise - how do i install the video driver?
[06:16] <alanhaggai> thanks wastrel :)
[06:17] <alanhaggai> I will check that
[06:17] <chuckles2007> will it get any faster? im getting ~2.5kbs right now
[06:17] <_3uG_> !ubotu
[06:17] <chuckles2007> with dsl... and my connection is fine
[06:17] <Jaws> timfrost: ok, i will try putting them in both system directories, i had it in the firefox one earlier but that didint work
[06:17] <bo1> need help w/ bridging.. anyone know anything about it?
[06:17] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, how do we tell you without you telling us your video card ?
[06:17] <botxj> is it possible to have a router/firewall in ubuntu?
[06:17] <wickedpuppy> botxj, iptables
[06:17] <alekz> if i apply a patch on the kernel, and the compile and install it, am i running a big risk ?
[06:18] <botxj> !iptables
[06:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:18] <botxj> what about routing?
[06:18] <botxj> blah
[06:18] <_3uG_> how can i get a list of ubotu !options?
[06:18] <skel> botxj: try using shorewall
[06:18] <alekz> ubotu search recompile kernel
[06:18] <dbmonk74> oops
[06:18] <dbmonk74> intel integrated 865
[06:18] <timfrost> jaws,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29005/
[06:18] <dbmonk74> i have the driver now
[06:18] <botxj> i use smoothwall in my hardware router
[06:18] <Abst> Is it safe to remove all files in the /var/cache/apt folder
[06:19] <charle97> abst, yes
[06:19] <Abst> /var/cache/apt/archives even
[06:19] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, whats the driver file name ?
[06:19] <skel> botxj: if you like smoothwall you'd probably like ipcop
[06:19] <al[e] x> firefox crashes to much in edgy
[06:19] <botxj> hmm, ipcop, i'll look into that
[06:19] <Lubix> firerfox does have crash tendenecy did you upgrade or fresh install?
[06:20] <charle97> abst, use sudo apt-get clean
[06:20] <Chu> Would mounting a live cd work as an unexperienced person would expect, or would it be a heck of a lot messier?
[06:20] <godmachine81> Abst:: in some cases when packages get upgraded but you want your older version, you might want to keep the archives around
[06:20] <al[e] x> fresh install
[06:20] <Abst> Thanks
[06:20] <AgentCy> jlmb, still around?
[06:20] <alanhaggai> wastrel : it says that the webpage does not exist
[06:20] <dbmonk74> that all depends - do you mean the .tar.gz file? or the driver that lurks somewhere within there?
[06:20] <skel> botxj: did you want to turn an ubuntu installation into a router / firewall  or just have a firewall on your desktop?
[06:20] <godmachine81> AgentCy:: im around
[06:20] <godmachine81> lol
[06:20] <AgentCy> lol
[06:20] <jlmb> AgentCy: yeah
[06:21] <monokrome> hey
[06:21] <Lubix> well i did a upgrade i have a similar problem sometimes it just disappears
[06:21] <monokrome> Anyone in here use feh?
[06:21] <botxj> skel: i was curious if i could turn it into something like smoothwall
[06:21] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, search for it in synaptic or apt-cache ... there should be ubuntu driver without you compiling it.. and also pls do search on google
[06:21] <botxj> with routing
[06:21] <skel> botxj: yeah, in that case I think you want a specialized distro if you want the ease of use and features, I highly recommend ipcop
[06:22] <dbmonk74> will do - thx
[06:22] <alanhaggai> !nvidia
[06:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:22] <AgentCy> jlmb, i did a "sudo lshw -businfo" and it displayed (blank) network WBM-120 Wireless Adapter
[06:22] <AgentCy> jlmb, blank is where the businfo should be, lol
[06:22] <vidd> #ubuntu
[06:22] <jlmb> AgentCy: hlol
[06:22] <Jaws> timfrost: Can I run those in terminal?  I just paste each line in after i get the flash-nonfree
[06:23] <wastrel> alanhaggai:  how about  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:23] <AgentCy> any thoughts?
[06:23] <jlmb> AgentCy: Not sure man, I've been with the same hardware, wifi device since before ubuntu was conceived...I'm kinda rusty on digging hardware support :(
[06:24] <pooru> has anyone installed the ATI 8.29.6 drivers on edgy?
[06:24] <AgentCy> jlmb, well thanks for all your help anyways
[06:24] <skel> AgentCy: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices ?
[06:24] <SilentDis> hello :)
[06:24] <pooru> i followed the guide online perfectly, and after my restart fglrx info does not work right
[06:24] <keelbill> hi
[06:25] <Geoffrey2> dbmonk74, if you have an 800 series Intel video chip, make sure you install 915resolution, it's needed for all 800 and 900 series video chips
[06:25] <skel> AgentCy: err.. not usb
[06:25] <yoyo> could anyone tell me how to gain access to "My Downloads" directory in Ubuntu via the terminal?
[06:25] <skel> AgentCy: but you get the point
[06:25] <keelbill> wuold any of you help me with my video resolution?
[06:25] <keelbill> it suddenly fkd up
[06:25] <keelbill> i restored the xorg file to what it was
[06:25] <keelbill> but no luck
[06:25] <SilentDis> stupid question of the day:  a friend burned a copy of Edgy Eft to disk for me (i'm stuck in the boonies, on dialup).  is it possible to perform an in-place upgrade?
[06:25] <jlmb> AgentCy: np, sorry couldn't fixed your problem.
[06:25] <t73net> Anyone here have experience setting up Tomcat5 Admin WAR PM Me please
[06:25] <timfrost> jaws, you need to do 'sudo ln -s  /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so;sudo ln -s /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so'
[06:26] <godmachine81> anyone know if feisty is going to be a 4 month release or if its going to be a 6 month release?
[06:26] <GigaClon> 6 month most likley
[06:26] <godmachine81> 6.06 came late.. didnt know if it messed everything up or not
[06:26] <keelbill> wuold any of you help me with my video resolution?
[06:26] <godmachine81> GigaClon:: you think thats why 6.10 was rushed?
[06:26] <godmachine81> to get back on schedule?
[06:26] <t73net> what exactly about it keelbill?
[06:26] <GigaClon> prolly
[06:26] <AgentCy> skel, cant make sense of it, but does not look like my card is listed in pci/devices
[06:26] <keelbill> is there other file besides xorg.conf involved with screen resol?ution
[06:27] <GigaClon> the next one will prolly be in 6 months
[06:27] <keelbill> well it only list 800x600 mode
[06:27] <vidd> keelbill.......rund dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:27] <godmachine81> GigaClon:: if it is falling back to the original release cycles it should be 7.04
[06:27] <keelbill> already did that vidd
[06:27] <godmachine81> dapper was originally suppose to be 6.04 i think
[06:27] <keelbill> no luck
[06:27] <skel> AgentCy: what about lspci -vvv
[06:27] <Jaws> timfrost: I still dont have flashplugin-nonfree
[06:27] <keelbill> gets worse oand only goes to 600x400 mode
[06:28] <Jaws> timfrost: I dont know how to get it...
[06:28] <keelbill> also i restored my xorg.conf to my back up one
[06:28] <vidd> what video card you have?
[06:28] <t73net> keelbill: OK if I im you ?
[06:28] <keelbill> but still no luck
[06:28] <JDStone> does EDGY use hotplug?
[06:28] <yoyo> i need to gain access to My Downloads directory via the terminal...how do i do it?
[06:28] <timfrost> godmachine81: They put a lot of extra effort into dapper, and delayed the release date by 6 weeks.  So the short cycle for edgy brought us back to the cycle of releases in april (x.04) and October (x.10)
[06:28] <keelbill> it's a FX55oo
[06:28] <timfrost> jaws,
[06:28] <RamiKassab> hey guys, I have a couple questions regarding file permissions. I have running a dev web server that has ispconfig on it and under each site I create a user account with shell access for each individual that develops on the system, however, we sometimes work on file that other people create but the default umask is set to 022 which makes the files writeable by the user but not by group nor everyone. First off, how can I set the default
[06:28] <RamiKassab> umask for all new user accounts and secondly, what umask would you use that enables the group to write to the file as well? Thanks in advance guys!
[06:29] <AgentCy> skel, the slot shows up, e.g. the pcmcia card reader, but the device itself does not
[06:29] <eXcentra> yoyo: cd /path/to/"My Downloads" ?
[06:29] <t73net> I had that occur to me once keelbill. I simply did a ctl-alt-backspace to restart xserver, and it reloaded fine
[06:29] <skel> AgentCy: ooh this is a pcmcia card?
[06:29] <t73net> I have a FX5200
[06:29] <AgentCy> skel, correct
[06:29] <godmachine81> timfrost:: yea thats what i was thinking
[06:29] <eXcentra> yoyo: or cd /path/to/My\ Downloads
[06:29] <keelbill> nah treid that already
[06:29] <keelbill> even rebooted several times
[06:29] <mkruskamp>  I am running xgl on gnome... my resolution is 1600x1200. When I run gnome without xgl everything
[06:29] <kestas> anyone here have 24mbit internet?
[06:30] <mkruskamp>                    looks fine, but when I run gnome with xgl, all of the application fonts are huge.
[06:30] <Phoul> Hey, Whats good/easy to use streaming software?
[06:30] <killown> I load module sudance to my card network encore but I not found eth1 , only eth0 to my card via rhine
[06:30] <killown> why?
[06:30] <yoyo> hey eXcentra  THANXXX ....gonna try that.....
[06:30] <Phoul> I want to get a internet stream up for a party my friends having
[06:30] <keelbill> ctrl+alt+back space is a no go
[06:30] <t73net> keelbill: Yeah you prolly hosed your xorg.conf file.
[06:30] <keelbill> any other aideas there should be another way out of this besides format
[06:30] <skel> AgentCy: hmm.. do you have the pcmcia kernel modules?
[06:30] <hap0> Hello ?
[06:30] <Phoul> Whats a good and easy to use shoutcast like thing
[06:30] <godtvisken> is there like an events scheduler in ubunt?
[06:30] <godtvisken> ubuntu*
[06:30] <AgentCy> skel, dont believe so, i would get those?
[06:30] <keelbill> my xorg file is good
[06:31] <keelbill> i even had a back up
[06:31] <t73net> keel: To my knowledge, there is no other place to edit your resolutions
[06:31] <keelbill> and replaced it again
[06:31] <hap0> Wow that took awhile. For a second there I thought there was no one here...
[06:31] <AgentCy> skel, you mean pcmcia-utils package?
[06:31] <skel> AgentCy: well at this point, the card reader will show up on the bus, but the reader itself wouldn't know what to do with the signals from the card without a driver
[06:31] <keelbill> i will boot into cmd line mode and restore the xorg again
[06:31] <timfrost> jaws, put the .so somewhere (eg /usr/local/lib), and create the symlinks pointing to that location.  The deb line is 'deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ edgy-seveas custom extras seveas-meta' if you are using edgy.
[06:31] <keelbill> and see if that works
[06:31] <SilentDis> quick question:  I have a copy of 6.10 on CD, and would like to upgrade my existing 6.06 release.  how do I go about this?
[06:31] <skel> AgentCy: that may be useful, but I mean like a driver for the pcmcia device
[06:32] <Phoul> Anyone know how to set up a stream?
[06:32] <keelbill> !fix resolution
[06:32] <killown> I load module sudance to my card network encore but I not found eth1 , only eth0 to my card via rhine
[06:32] <killown> why?
[06:32] <uni> HAI
[06:32] <yoyo> THANX FOR THE HELP!!! IT WORKED....
[06:32] <Phoul> I wanna stream some music for some friends party
[06:32] <eXcentra> yoyo, cool
[06:32] <AgentCy> skel, ok, could you help me with that first? :-P
[06:32] <t73net> godtvisken: Most things you want to run on regular basis like alarm clock, OR what are you looking for?
[06:32] <vidd> anyone know how to get bcm43xx to work on edgy?
[06:32] <skel> AgentCy: I can try =]  gimme a sec to poke around in my kernel modules, I don't know if it provides one by default.  Is this edgy btw?
[06:32] <yoyo> i'm such a NEWBIE in linux...still learning the very basics...going step by step...
[06:33] <AgentCy> skel, yeah i just upgraded to edgy, but this was a dapper problem as well
[06:33] <killown> I load module sudance to my card network encore but I not found eth1 , only eth0 to my card via rhine
[06:33] <killown> why?
[06:33] <skel> AgentCy: first of all, do you get any output from: lsmod | grep pcmcia  ?
[06:34] <hap0> Question: Anyone know why the display resolutions in xorg.conf are not available via the main GUI???
[06:34] <t73net> Anyone with Tomcat5 Install Experience ?
[06:34] <SilentDis> it's busy, i'll poke around the wiki for my answer.  take care :)
[06:34] <UNI> HELOW
[06:35] <UNI> //////////////
[06:35] <vidd> anyone know how to get bcm43xx to work?
[06:35] <zaatar> Hey, is there a way to reinstall a clean installation of ubuntu on instead of another ubuntu installation without messing with the windows partition?
[06:35] <Geoffrey2> vidd, you can find Broadcom wireless instructions here.... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=broadcom
[06:35] <hap0> It wouldn't be so bad if the ones defined in xorg.conf were treated as the authority, but I have no idea where the system preferences are getting their settings from???
[06:36] <wastrel> hap0:  probably an effect of using the binary driver for ati or nvidia (?)
[06:36] <Jaws> timfrost: How do i get the key...
[06:36] <skel> hap0: was that wpa setup thread useful at all?
[06:36] <AgentCy> skel, yes.. pcmcia     38972 0            pcmcia_core 42128 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
[06:36] <dredhammer> is there a guide to get samba with vmware server on the same computer?
[06:37] <charle97> zaatar, i did that last night
[06:37] <Lubix> were can i find a channel not full on freaking partition questions
[06:37] <UNI> 23E432Q
[06:37] <UNI> WE3125
[06:37] <Lubix> you know like smart people?
[06:37] <UNI> 35465Y
[06:37] <UNI> Y45U7I
[06:37] <hap0> wastrel: That's a great guess! yes I am using the binary driver for nvidia. Can you point me toward the right file to edit then?
[06:37] <UNI> 6UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[06:37] <zaatar> charle97: is it an option in the cd?
[06:37] <xipietotec> @lart Lubix for being mean
[06:37] <cafuego> Lubix: undernet is full of smart people just like you.
[06:37] <wastrel> hap0:  sry i have ati myself :] 
[06:37] <timfrost> jaws, what key?
[06:37] <charle97> zaatar, the only thing it would mess with is the mbr
[06:38] <Jaws> timfrost: When i try and update the repository
[06:38] <wastrel> !nvidi
[06:38] <Lubix> i am sorry im tired and bored
[06:38] <charle97> zaatar, and you're going let ubuntu do that anyway
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <wastrel> !nvidia
[06:38] <skel> AgentCy: ok so it looks like its working more than you think, it loaded the yenta driver as well as the pcmcia
[06:38] <Lubix> happy end of daylight savings to all!!!!
[06:38] <hap0> wastrel: Heh, well thanks for the guess... Did you have a different config file for the ATI card?
[06:38] <cafuego> start, you mean?
[06:38] <zaatar> charle97: oh, i would just install ubuntu, formatting the other ubuntu partition in the process, no?
[06:38] <UNI> HELOW LUBIX
[06:38] <skel> AgentCy: could you paste the output of lspci -vvv to http://rafb.net/paste  ?
[06:38] <charle97> zaatar, yes it is
[06:38] <Lubix> uni< hello
[06:39] <zaatar> cool, thanks
[06:39] <cafuego> uni: your caps-lock key seems to be stuck.
[06:39] <wastrel> hap0:  not for the fglrx driver  there is an aticonfig prog, i don't know what it does because i haven't had to use it.
[06:39] <Lubix> my computer does random things
[06:39] <charle97> zaatar, backup your important stuff first
[06:39] <Lubix> because of ubuntu
[06:39] <AgentCy> skel, 3 v's, correct?
[06:39] <Lubix> i need Suse
[06:39] <Lubix> bye
[06:39] <Edgan> Anyone notice Metacity in Edgy doesn't allow you to grab a window and switch workspaces, via a hotkey, with it?
[06:39] <skel> AgentCy: yeah
[06:39] <charle97> zaatar, you never know what may happen
[06:39] <timfrost> jaws, sorry.  the GPG key is available via 'wget http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -'
[06:39] <zaatar> true
[06:40] <Lubix> i love linux
[06:40] <wastrel> Edgan:  you can drag windows between workspaces in the workspace switcher applet
[06:40] <Edgan> wastrel: the way I describe used to work and is still mentioned in the README
[06:40] <Lubix> i hear people at work talk about mcse and i laugh i hate microsoft and i would never ever ever become certified to work with ms products
[06:40] <wastrel> oic
[06:40] <Lubix> die ms die
[06:40] <UNI> huiks
[06:41] <wastrel> Edgan:  did you check  system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts  ?
[06:41] <K`zan> LOL, hear! hear :-)
[06:41] <AgentCy> !pastebin
[06:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:41] <skel> I would get a MCSE just to go into places with "Solutions" and replace windows with linux :-P
[06:41] <hap0> wastrel: Yeah, well this is the first I've ever seen it suggested that there may be another source for config... I've always dealt directly with the text files under /etc/X11
[06:41] <UNI> helo every body
[06:41] <Edgan> wastrel: I don't think it is it's own shortcut. You switch desktops with a shortcut, and that works, but you are supposed to be able to use the same shortcut after grabbing a window to bring it with you
[06:41] <Lubix> viva, viva la revulution!!!
[06:42] <UNI> yeach
[06:42] <Jaws> timfrost: ok i should be able to install it with this sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:42] <Lubix> of spelling!
[06:42] <K`zan> Ah, started to install ubuntu (amd64) and got to the pick partition and it doesn't seem to see / accept my selection for the root partition( free partition /dev/sda12 on my working drive)  help?
[06:42] <Lubix> microsoft tell us how to spell
[06:42] <Lubix> make up your speelings
[06:42] <AgentCy> skel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29006/
[06:42] <Lubix> beee oreganal
[06:42] <skel> AgentCy: okie, just a sec
[06:42] <timfrost> Jaws: yes you should.
[06:42] <godmachine81> !weather 42602
[06:43] <godmachine81> wow
[06:43] <inuyasharenegade> Location: , Updated: 1:40 AM EDT on October 29, 2006, Temp:  F, Wind Chill: 44 F, Dew Point: 33 F, Humidity: span class="pwsrt" pwsid="KKYMONTI1" pwsunit="both" pwsvariable="humidity" english="" metric="" value="61", Pressure:  in., Conditions: Clear, Wind: mph 5.0km/h </span>, Visibility: 10.0 miles
[06:43] <pppoe_dude> AgentCy, what is your problem?
[06:43] <godmachine81> oops
[06:43] <godmachine81> i was about to say amazing
[06:43] <Madpilot> Lubix, please try to stay on-topic, this is a support channel... chat in #ubuntu-offtopic, if you like
[06:43] <alanhaggai> hi wastrel :)
[06:43] <Lubix> ok
[06:43] <alanhaggai> thanks for the important tip and link :)
[06:43] <Abst> !info enlightenment edgy
[06:43] <ubotu> enlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 980 kB
[06:43] <skel> AgentCy: what type of wireless card is it?
[06:43] <Lubix> who needs help?
[06:43] <AgentCy> pppode_dude, having issues getting my pcmcia wireless card working... to be honest i dont even know what chipset it is :-p
[06:43] <wastrel> np
[06:43] <AgentCy> the card is a "gateway wbm-120"
[06:44] <Jaws> timfrost: well it says its not available and that it has no installation candidate
[06:44] <alanhaggai> wastrel : I have set everything right and XServer is working well
[06:44] <xipietotec> Enlightenment: The ugly window manager =P
[06:44] <godmachine81> Lubix:: tail -f /dev/null
[06:44] <alanhaggai> thanks :)
[06:44] <AgentCy> it's either prism2 or orinoco_cs
[06:44] <alanhaggai> now have to enjoy Edgy :)
[06:44] <pppoe_dude> AgentCy, does it appear when you start "sudo network-admin"?
[06:44] <Lubix> dev null urself
[06:44] <godmachine81> heh
[06:44] <Edgan> wastrel: going to try downgrading metacity
[06:45] <AgentCy> pppoe_dude, unfortunately no
[06:45] <wastrel> heh have fun with that
[06:45] <godmachine81> Lubix:: sudo cp /dev/null /dev/hda1
[06:46] <godmachine81> alright im gonna stop lol
[06:46] <Lubix> man im tired
[06:46] <skel> AgentCy: do you have output from lsmod | grep prism2  ?
[06:46] <Edgan> wastrel: it worked
[06:46] <pppoe_dude> AgentCy, shouldn't you have intel wireless?
[06:47] <eternale1> skel: boot using "Linux single" so gdm is not started... whats that exactly saying to do?
[06:47] <pppoe_dude> AgentCy, seems like you have a centrino chip there...
[06:47] <wastrel> so the question is - did ubuntu take it out or did upstream
[06:47] <eternale1> skel: something i found on a post about a differnet bug for ubuntu 6.06
[06:47] <skel> eternale1: ah in the boot config you can put a parameter on the kernel line at the end "single" that boots it into single user mode, ie runlevel 1
[06:47] <AgentCy> skel, no output
[06:47] <pppoe_dude> with all the intel integrated stuff
[06:48] <AgentCy> pppoe_dude, it is a centrino, no integrated wireless
[06:48] <skel> AgentCy: ok, try sudo modprobe prism2_pci
[06:48] <Edgan> wastrel: I know it is upstream. I am not sure they took it out. It may be a bug. Going to diff 2.14 vs. 2.16
[06:48] <pppoe_dude> AgentCy, oh i c.
[06:48] <AgentCy> k skel, no output either
[06:48] <bitsweat> hey folks - looking for an apt source for linux-restricted-modules having amd64 nvidia 9626 drivers.  all the repos I've come across (most notably Amaranth's) are down.
[06:48] <skel> AgentCy: that means the driver loaded, not remove and re-insert the card
[06:49] <skel> AgentCy: err.. *now remove
[06:49] <Amaranth> bitsweat: Mine is not down
[06:49] <Amaranth> bitsweat: It just doesn't have amd64
[06:49] <bitsweat> Amaranth:  ah, right-o!
[06:49] <AgentCy> oh hey
[06:49] <Amaranth> !nvidiabeta
[06:49] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[06:49] <AgentCy> something different
[06:49] <AgentCy> well wait.. nm.. grr
[06:49] <bitsweat> Amaranth:  beauty. thank you.
[06:50] <skel> AgentCy: do you have wireless-tools installed too?
[06:50] <skel> AgentCy: you'll need those
[06:50] <bitsweat> The on-the-fly twinview whet my appetite :)
[06:50] <AgentCy> skel, yes
[06:50] <skel> AgentCy: does iwconfig show any devices now?
[06:50] <vidd> I am still having issues with bcm43xx.....followed the instructions on the forums (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=broadcom)....Now my LAN dont work either after reboot
[06:51] <AgentCy> i found this interesting... this is out from sudo lshw -businfo .... (note the businfo is missing from WBM-120 Wireless).. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29007/
[06:51] <AgentCy> still nothing with iwconfig :(
[06:52] <hap0> This is really freaking crazy... Why does my desktop resolution default to 1024x768 with only one option for 800x600 when my xorg.conf file has five options starting at 1600x1200??? (nvidia 6200 128MB)???
[06:52] <Edgan> wastrel: hmm, the diff is 12mb. They changed a lot.
[06:52] <wastrel> heh
[06:52] <vidd> can someone at least help me to get my LAN back up?
[06:52] <skel> AgentCy: I think the bus info will be that of the cardbus controller
[06:53] <AgentCy> k
[06:53] <skel> AgentCy: what about ifconfig -a   does that show an additional interface?
[06:53] <Chaosmik> list
[06:53] <AgentCy> skel, shows eth0 (wired), lo, and sit0
[06:54] <skel> AgentCy: hmm =/'
[06:54] <Chaosmik> is this general ubuntu chat channel?
[06:54] <skel> AgentCy: its deprecated but you could try and install pcmcia-cs
[06:55] <skel> Chaosmik: aye
[06:55] <ianmacgregor> Chaosmik: yes
[06:55] <AgentCy> skel, could it be conflicting with previous drivers i may have installed in an attempt to get wireless to work? e.g. ndiswrapper
[06:55] <AgentCy> pcmcia-cs is already installed
[06:55] <skel> AgentCy: possibly. I don't know anything about ndiswrapper, if you don't need it, I'd remove it
[06:55] <vidd> can anyone help me get my LAN working again?
[06:55] <Chaosmik> is there anyway to easily change refresh rate from 60hz.... im running 6.06 dapper amd64, nvidia 6800
[06:56] <sydhart> hi all. does anyone know when/how xresprobe is invoked in the desktop/live CD boot process?
[06:56] <wastrel> vidd:  ethernet or wireless?
[06:56] <fnf> Chaosmik: Take a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, under Monitor section
[06:56] <vidd> either
[06:56] <Chaosmik> ok tnks
[06:56] <wastrel> vidd:  what's wrong with your ethernet?
[06:57] <hap0> Once upon a time, if you misconfigured your XF86config file xserver wouldn't start and you knew the file needed to be edited, now you have no idea where the settings are coming from...
[06:57] <vidd> i updated to edgy, and the wifi broke
[06:57] <AgentCy> any other ideas pppoe_dude?
[06:57] <vidd> while trying to follow the instuctions on a link i was given; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=broadcom my wire line broke
[06:57] <Andruk> hello.  i just upgraded and i cannot get into a gui (gdm and beyond).  I get an x server error.  what can i do to improve my predicament?
[06:58] <Chaosmik> is amd64 6.10 released.
[06:58] <AgentCy> lol @ viagra pastebin
[06:58] <crimsun> Chaosmik: on Oct 26th
[06:58] <Chaosmik> any improvements to justify install?
[06:58] <hap0> The FAQ on Display Resolution just reiterated everything I already knew and tried...
[06:59] <wastrel> vidd:  have you tried to reconfigure your ethernet with  System > Administration > Networking  ?
[06:59] <HadesChief> hey everyone
[07:00] <vidd> yeah....says the wired is working with DHCP but i cant open a web page
[07:00] <fnf> Hi, I have asked this question before, but here again: Anyone successfully installed nvidia-glx in Dapper ?. This package depends on one of the older kernel (2.6.15.11), which would screw up my system (2.6.15.27) after installing.
[07:01] <HadesChief> i need to download basic developers' tools (with all deps), like gcc, gmake, glibc-devel, etc... to install them on a Ubuntu 6.06 workstation without internet access
[07:01] <hap0> fnf: Have you searched google for that question???
[07:01] <wastrel> vidd:  can you ping internet hosts?
[07:01] <HadesChief> how do I recover all deps without having a package manager and not knowing which packages are there in 6.06?
[07:02] <Lobster> apt-get install build-essential
[07:02] <AlanHaggai> How to forcibly quit a window?
[07:02] <fnf> hap0: I did, and I'm aware of the nvidia 3D driver blob, but it's shown to be unstable for me, and recently it has a security issue.
[07:02] <vidd> i cant even ping my router
[07:02] <cafuego> fnf: I had no problems with it; did you have security updates enabled?
[07:02] <crimsun> HadesChief: use apt-zip
[07:02] <Lobster> AlanHaggai cntrl+alt+esc and click in the window
[07:02] <AlanHaggai> ok Lobster
[07:02] <hap0> fnf: Have you seen all the step-by-step howto's regarding compiz? I would think your answer would have been clear as day. It was for me.
[07:03] <Byan> O_o
[07:03] <Byan> nickalert here
[07:03] <fnf> cafuego: You mean even you're running the latest kernel, installing nvidia=glx wouldn't cause it to be reverted back to the older one ?
[07:03] <Byan> I wonder how long ago that was
[07:03] <AlanHaggai> not working Lobster
[07:03] <AlanHaggai> Lobster : how is it done?
[07:04] <Lobster> its a shortcut for xkill
[07:04] <rbil> AlanHaggai: open a terminal, get the PID for the process and kill it
[07:04] <fnf> hap0: I know how to configure X server and compiled the custom nvidia driver, the fact is I have to install an older kernel just to be able to use nvidia-glx bothers me.
[07:04] <AlanHaggai> ok
[07:04] <AlReece45> Are there any special instructions for compiling alsa on ubuntu?
[07:04] <hap0> My problems started when I attempted to change to a higher resolution. For some reason my only options are 1024x768 & 640x480
[07:04] <cafuego> fnf: I was running 2.6.15-27-k7
[07:04] <rbil> AlanHaggai: what app you trying to kill?
[07:04] <phlaegel> anybody know if /etc/inittab is used anymore with 6.10?
[07:04] <AlanHaggai> gnokii
[07:04] <unixslut> ??
[07:04] <AlanHaggai> rbil : gnokii
[07:04] <wastrel> vidd:  have you disabled & reenabled the ethernet connection?
[07:04] <fnf> hap0: Did you take a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:04] <K`zan> Does indeed looks like ubuntu installer will not accept an extended partition...
[07:04] <vidd> yes
[07:05] <rbil> not familiar with that one, but anyways, open terminal and :  kill gnokii
[07:05] <kupesoft> I can't my mic working on my laptop with eft. Any suggestions?
[07:05] <rbil> if it was started by root, you'll need to: sudo kill gnokii
[07:05] <wastrel> vidd:  how about with ifup/ifdown  not network manager
[07:05] <K`zan> Anyway, thanks anyway folks, but I am not going to wiper the disk just to try ubuntu :-(.
[07:05] <hap0> fnf: Yes. Check out my options: "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "640x480"
[07:05] <AlanHaggai> rbil :bash: kill: gnokii: arguments must be process or job IDs
[07:06] <vidd> my cmdln is rusty
[07:06] <monokrome> wtf.
[07:06] <hap0> Yet, I'm stuck with 1024x768 for some reason...
[07:06] <kupesoft> I can't my mic working on my laptop with eft. Any suggestions??
[07:06] <rbil> AlanHaggai:  try killall gnokii
[07:06] <vidd> ifup eth0 down?
[07:06] <fnf> cafuego: What did apt-cache tell you about the dependency ?. Mine stays in 'pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/', hence it would complain if I didn't have the appropriate kernel installed. Any direction would be great.
[07:06] <AlanHaggai> ok rbil
[07:06] <wastrel> vidd:  sudo ifdown eth0  (assuming your card is eth0)
[07:06] <wastrel> vidd:  then sudo ifup
[07:06] <rbil> AlanHaggai:  if that doesn't work get the PID # and kill that
[07:06] <kupesoft> I really need mic help
[07:06] <wastrel> er, ifup eth0
[07:07] <monokrome> Any ever seen the LED on a broadcom device blink?
[07:07] <cafuego> fnf: Sorry, I switched to Edgy last night :-?
[07:07] <fnf> hap0: How about the Monitor section ? Perhaps your vert and horz refresh rate aren't corrently written.
[07:07] <rbil> AlanHaggai: use top or ps ax to get the PID # to kill of that process
[07:07] <cafuego> ah hold on
[07:07] <AlanHaggai> How to get PID?
[07:07] <AlanHaggai> ok rbil
[07:07] <cafuego> `gin' is still on dapper.
[07:07] <DaGame> What's the program to see filesystem I/O like locked files?
[07:07] <wastrel> lsof
[07:08] <AlanHaggai> rbil :ok done :)
[07:08] <hap0> fnf: well I guess, but it's currently working fine at 60Hz... You'd think it could handle more with an Nvidia 6200 card???
[07:08] <Ingrix> So I am in need of a bit of help, if anyone knows anything about installing ndiswrapper
[07:08] <rbil> :-)
[07:08] <AlanHaggai> rbil : but can I know if there are any shortcuts keys like in windows Ctrl + Alt + Delete to do the same?
[07:08] <jdrake> Is there a way I can get nautilus to not list a drive mounted at /home/jdrake/Music?
[07:09] <jdrake> I just want it to act as if it were a regular folder
[07:09] <rbil> CTRL-ALT-ESC should bring up a kill pointer
[07:09] <cafuego> pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/nvidia-glx_1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-1_i386.deb
[07:09] <dark_light> how can i see my translations suggestions at rosetta? or the ones that was approved
[07:09] <johny5> I'm trying to download something and I get a "Browser cannot handle ed2k" or somethig like that.  I've followed the instrustions that I've found online and now when I choose "save link as", my download monitor just sticks on starting.  Is this a problem with that protocol, or did I set something up wrong?
[07:09] <irvin> is anyone using kubuntu? just one quick question -> can kpresenter open/edit powerpoint files?
[07:09] <fnf> hap0: Not terribly sure about it, but it's worth a try removing the lower resolutions in Screen section.
[07:09] <AlanHaggai> but not working for me rbil
[07:09] <witless> i just started to install nvidia-xconfig, and apt wanted to 61 xserver-xorg-* files and nvidia-glx... is this expected??
[07:10] <vidd> its still working
[07:10] <witless> i just started to install nvidia-xconfig, and apt wanted to *remove* 61 xserver-xorg-* files and nvidia-glx... is this expected??
[07:10] <rbil> u using Gnome desktop?
[07:10] <AlanHaggai> yes
[07:10] <cafuego> fnf: Which is from the 2.6.15.11-1 source package. (but that's fine).
[07:10] <fnf> cafuego: That's right, and attempting to install it on my 2.6.15.27 kernel would be dangerous.
[07:10] <rbil> I thought it was standard.
[07:10] <zaatar> i assume it's safe to ask edgy eft related questions now?
[07:10] <AlanHaggai> I see
[07:10] <hap0> fnf: Thanks but that was also the first thing I tried... It's acting like it is getting the settings from a whole different source file...
[07:10] <cafuego> fnf: No, that's the RIGHT one
[07:10] <vidd> no DHCPDISCOVER on eth0
[07:10] <cafuego> fnf: it goes wityh the 2.6.15-27 kernel from dapper-security/main
[07:11] <vidd> or rather No DHCPOFFERS
[07:11] <fnf> cafuego: After that, I would have to choose between running an acient kernel with nvidia-glx or not at all.
[07:11] <Jfrench> Hello All, I need some help with Twinview - I cant seem to get Display on both Monitors. One monitor has a Lower Max res then the other, can this effect it?
[07:11] <AlanHaggai> please tell me of the e-mail clients available in Ubuntu other than Thunderbird and Evolution
[07:11] <fnf> cafuego: You've installed nvidia-glx ? If so, I think I'll have a shot at Edgy.
[07:12] <vidd> Do i need to thrash my system like a winbloze machine?
[07:12] <witless> why, when installing nvidia-xconfig, does apt want to remove 61 xserver-xorg-* packages?
[07:12] <hap0> Oh well, I just finished downloading edgy so I guess I will give up on this install and try again... If I run into the same on Edgy I'm getting an used Mac for a while.
[07:12] <fnf> hap0: It's out of my reach now, sorry as I'm running Ubuntu Dapper server, with only Xserver and icewm installed.
[07:12] <cafuego> fnf: On dapper. nvidia-glx 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-5 (dapper-security/restricted) with linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7 2.6.15-27.48 (dapper-security/main)
[07:13] <AlanHaggai> please tell me of the e-mail clients available in Ubuntu other than Thunderbird and Evolution
[07:13] <hap0> fnf: Thanks a lot though. Much appreciate the time. All the best.
[07:13] <wastrel> vidd:  not sure- maybe try to configure it manually for the time being
[07:13] <sanmarcos> !lirc
[07:13] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[07:13] <sanmarcos> what happened to modules.conf in edgy?
[07:13] <wastrel> AlanHaggai:  balsa, and sylpheed are 2  i'm sure there's many more
[07:13] <AlanHaggai> wastrel : me now using Edgy with XServer started :) Thanks :)
[07:14] <wastrel> AlanHaggai:  great :] 
[07:14] <D_Wyatt> help my bootloader doesnt work
[07:14] <sanmarcos> !doesn't work
[07:14] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[07:14] <D_Wyatt> i think i installed grub wrong
[07:14] <fnf> cafuego: "sudo apt-get -s install nvidia-glx" din't tell you that you need to install another kernel ? It's really wierd.
[07:14] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: sylpheed is very fast, and works with GPG
[07:14] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : GPG? What is it?
[07:14] <witless> when installing nvidia-xconfig, apt wants to remove 61 xserver-xorg-* packages.  is this normal?
[07:14] <cafuego> fnf: Nope. You should check that your sources.list is up to date,a s well as run 'sudo apt-get update'.
[07:15] <vidd> well...im going to boot the live cd to to download edgy install disk....how do i save that image to the HD so i can burn it?
[07:15] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: Gnu Privacy Guard, a modern, free PGP (Pretty Good Privacy)...
[07:15] <AlanHaggai> Thanks Xenguy :)
[07:15] <D_Wyatt> when i start up grub loads up fine and displys fine but when i choose either winblows or ubuntu it says cannot read disk
[07:15] <hap0> Hey does 6.06 LTS not even come with a CD burner???
[07:15] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: basically public-key encryption (for file and email)
[07:15] <fnf> cafuego: I cron "apt-get update/upgrade" on a daily basis. It should have the latest patches.
[07:15] <AlanHaggai> will apt-get it :)
[07:16] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : How is the interface?
[07:16] <cafuego> cron? /me cringes
[07:16] <fnf> cafuego: Thanks, guess I'll have to search and comeback in a while.
[07:16] <D_Wyatt> but ubuntu rescue works fine
[07:16] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: you'll need to read a lot to understand how email encryption works
[07:16] <AlanHaggai> I see
[07:16] <cafuego> fnf: The mirror you use is perhaps out of sync; also if you sue any non-official repos, disable them for a moment.
[07:16] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: command-line and GUI interfaces
[07:16] <progek> I noticed on ubuntu's shipit they are no longer offering free cds for edgy. Is this just because it's very new?
[07:16] <AlanHaggai> nice Xenguy
[07:17] <fnf> cafuego: Ahh no, I mean I did an update check very frequently, sorry for the miswording. :-p
[07:17] <Madpilot> progek, ShipIt is going to stick with Dapper CDs
[07:17] <cafuego> progek: They support Dapper, so that's what they'll ship.
[07:17] <Ingrix> Im having a bit of a problem installing ndiswrapper.  I am following the directions on the ndiswrapper wiki for ubuntu, but when I try to do a "make install" it gives me an error code of 2 and doesnt install
[07:17] <syock> what do i get by upgrading to 6.10?
[07:17] <wastrel> sylpheed has cli interface too?
[07:17] <KenThomson> Sory to interrupt:  I need help with some questions, can someone be kind enough to answer them? Shall i ask?
[07:17] <cafuego> syock: pain, suffering, maybe a marginally faster desktop.
[07:17] <Ingrix> And it gives me a long chain of implicitly defined functions
[07:17] <Ingrix> Such as sscanf
[07:17] <wastrel> oh you're talking about gpg
[07:17] <progek> I see, thanks.
[07:17] <Madpilot> KenThomson, just ask, don't ask to ask...
[07:17] <vidd> ingrx: use synaptic to download it
[07:18] <urz> I want to emulate teh mouse with my keyboard
[07:18] <urz> numlock doesnt seem to do it for me
[07:18] <Xenguy> wastrel: but sylpheed does interface nicely with GPG :-)
[07:18] <Ingrix> Hmm
[07:18] <winterweaver> Hey all ^.^
[07:18] <Ingrix> Well, see, this is again where the problem arises.  I am using ndiswrapper so that I can access the internet lol
[07:19] <newbuntie> what command do you use to burn a cd from .img or .iso (and which should i download, .iso or .img?)
[07:19] <progek> why does edgy not have long term support like dapper?
[07:19] <vidd> IC
[07:19] <urz> cdrecord
[07:19] <crimsun> progek: because we're not insane.
[07:19] <kruncher> hey, has anyone else had problems with azureus in edgy?
[07:19] <Xenguy> newbuntie: nice -19 growisofs -Z /dev/cdrom=____.iso
[07:19] <KenThomson> My questions are a lot context specific and wouldn't make much sense to type them out here (they are really long as you will see). So could some of you be kind enough and go over to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287650, and read my whole post (it is really long) and maybe answer my questions?
[07:19] <stonarmusic> anyone know how to save Evolution calander date to an ipod nano?
[07:19] <KenThomson> Or should i type them here out?
[07:19] <Xenguy> newbuntie: to dvd
[07:19] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : does it have spam protection?
[07:19] <mervyn> Installed 6.06, upgraded from v5 - noticed that the menu items are fewer and do not have access to the update package?
[07:19] <newbuntie> to cd
[07:19] <highneko> Help please; http://rafb.net/paste/results/O6sqVn58.html
[07:20] <crimsun> progek: LTS releases are periodic and require substantial maintenance resources.
[07:20] <vidd> can you get the pc to connect via wire?
[07:20] <urz> please
[07:20] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: I think not - but spamassassin would cover spam once properly set-up
[07:20] <moshe> does anyone know when/if the nvidia driver is going to be upgraded due to the security flaw?
[07:20] <newbuntie> so with cdrecord, should i download .img, .iso, or either one?
[07:20] <moshe> in edgy, I mean
[07:20] <urz> its an emergency.  my mouse is too far for me to reach
[07:20] <AlanHaggai> ok Xenguy
[07:20] <Xenguy> newbuntie: cdrecord I expect
[07:20] <progek> I see, so every six months they release a new LTS, but dapper is the official, supported distro>
[07:21] <progek> ?
[07:21] <sontek> stonarmusic: ~/.evolution/ ,  ~/.gconf/apps/evolution/ , and ~/.gnome2_private/Evolution  are the directories you need.  Not sure which one stores calendar info
[07:21] <urz> i used to use the keyboard on occasion to control the mouse cursor in debian.. why doesnt the trick work anymore?
[07:21] <crimsun> progek: no. Whenever a release is deemed stable and maintainable for an LTS moniker
[07:21] <newbuntie> xenguy: no, my question is...if I use cdrecord and I'm given an option to download either .img file or .iso file, which should I download, or does it not matter?
[07:21] <vidd> progek: no...every 6 months the make a STANDARD release
[07:21] <crimsun> progek: I wouldn't expect the next one to appear until, say, Feisty+2
[07:22] <stonarmusic> sontek - ok, thanks
[07:22] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: I think thunderbird has an anti-spam function, but I don't know much about it as I don't use it ATM
[07:22] <KenThomson> One more time; did anyone go ove to my post? I REALLY need some help. Here it is again;" My questions are a lot context specific and wouldn't make much sense to type them out here (they are really long as you will see). So could some of you be kind enough and go over to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287650, and read my whole post (it is really long) and maybe answer my questions?". Sorry for interrupting
[07:22] <Xenguy> newbuntie: .iso is better for burning I expect, if that is your question
[07:22] <newbuntie> xenguy thx
[07:23] <Xenguy> newbuntie: yw
[07:23] <Jaws> How can I set the link target for a file?
[07:23] <KenThomson> Xenguy: Why so?
[07:23] <urz> rm -f filename targetname
[07:23] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : I installed spamassassin
[07:23] <Xenguy> KenThomson: I thought he invented Unix, but I may be remembering incorrectly
[07:23] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : How to access it?
[07:23] <progek> I see, thanks a lot. I just upgraded. I have been using ubuntu since dapper first came out but a friend of mine has been trying to convince me to use fedora. I know fc6 just came out, I tried it but didn't like the package management system. Any advice versus using the two distros? I use my computer for C/C++, java, SDL application development along with hosting an apache web server.
[07:24] <Jaws> urz: Was that to me? doesnt rm remove the file?
[07:24] <bawnpa> ln -s target filename
[07:24] <gevaudan> I accidently removed my checkgmail tray notification icon thinking the divider was not a part of the icon...i've reinstalled but i still can't get it back...tried ps -e | grep checkgmail and it is in fact running...where does gnome store information concerning the panel and tray icons?
[07:24] <bawnpa> ln -s target source
[07:24] <gogeta> hi
[07:24] <gogeta> been turble shooting a pc with toasted ram
[07:24] <KenThomson> Xenguy: i could use some help, if you could take some time out and hope on over to my forum post
[07:24] <gogeta> rams been replaced
[07:24] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/spamassassin, and man spamassassin -- google too if you need to... the documentation is out there :-)
[07:24] <gogeta> but its still siget 11
[07:24] <gogeta> he logs are not showing any memery problems  now
[07:25] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : Thanks for the nice help :)
[07:25] <rbil> KenThomson:  Q-1 checkout ... http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:25] <Geoffrey2> !upgrade
[07:25] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[07:25] <KenThomson> rbil: Thank you for helping me, i am hoping-over to that link
[07:25] <rbil> KenThomson: Q2, not needed, Linux knows how to handle ram
[07:25] <gogeta> i tryed that upgrade on my problemd pc
[07:25] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: I found I needed to setup the 'spam assassin learn' function (it uses Bayesian somethingorother to 'learn' spam email patterns :-)
[07:25] <gogeta> toasted the linux install
[07:25] <bawnpa> ln creates links, rm deletes files.
[07:26] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: I admit it requires a fair amount of reading, but once it is setup, it just keeps working
[07:26] <rbil> KenThomson: Q4 start here: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[07:26] <anto9us> urz, did you notice your error there?
[07:26] <KenThomson> rbil: Linux knows but what about some other stubborn programs, or if i see a really long video in Google, most of it is cached and stores in the swap or RAM, so i need to clear it up, Don't you think so?
[07:26] <gogeta> well the guys a newb he probly didnt read something right
[07:26] <AlanHaggai> thanks Xenguy
[07:27] <jermsie> newbs get it tough
[07:27] <urz> anto9us: what error
[07:27] <rbil> no
[07:27] <crimsun> KenThomson: 1) PartitionMagic. 2) You wouldn't worry about free memory or "bloating". Linux handles memory just fine. As for startup manager, BUM. 3) Use the alternate (text-based) installer image to be safe. 4) http://tldp.org  5) You can netboot into a Ubuntu installer. 6) Experimental. See Beryl. 7) "Bad" is subjective. Try it, but it's unofficial and unsupported, so don't complain here. 8) EDS: no. Corel/CS2: perhaps The GIMP. Winamp: A
[07:27] <anto9us> urz, rm instead of ln
[07:27] <urz> oh
[07:28] <anto9us> urz, please take care, we have a lot of newbies here :)
[07:28] <bioticpro> anyone here use k9copy?  I have a problem with a dvd where it crashes when trying to copy it
[07:28] <gogeta> yes noobs
[07:28] <gogeta> noobs are fun
[07:29] <KenThomson> ok i am listening if you got something more to say
[07:29] <gogeta> but now i need some help
[07:29] <AlanHaggai> how to add a program to load at startup?
[07:29] <gogeta> im working on a pc with badram now replaced
[07:29] <rbil> KenThomson: believe me, coming from the Windoze world you'll be absolutely blown away about all the quality oss software available for Linux
[07:29] <jdrake> Any ideas for an app to organize and schedule (i.e. now and in future) school assignments?
[07:29] <crimsun> KenThomson: to me? I addressed them as succinctly as possible. :)
[07:29] <gogeta> it seems to till be giving single 11 at random
[07:30] <stylus> why is the channel so fuuuulll, did ubuntu just make a release or something?
[07:30] <gogeta> yea
[07:30] <gogeta> edgy
[07:30] <stylus> oh, 6.10?
[07:30] <rbil> stylus: it's always full of lurkers
[07:30] <wally4> hi all
[07:30] <stylus> rbil: obviously not this many.
[07:30] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : how to add a program to load at startup?
[07:30] <gogeta> none hear deal with a badram pc
[07:30] <rbil> usually more
[07:30] <gogeta> lol
[07:31] <KenThomson> crimsun: Thank you
[07:31] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: system > preferences > session  ?
[07:31] <KenThomson> rbil: Thank you
[07:31] <gogeta> i disable acpi and apic and it seem stable at the moment
[07:31] <AlanHaggai> thanks again Xenguy :)
[07:31] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: np
[07:31] <KenThomson> Still i dont get it about using which file-system for the Linux Partition
[07:31] <wally4> i can't get an environment variable to work, even though it is specified in the /etc/environment file
[07:31] <AlanHaggai> I am a newbie in Linux
[07:31] <rbil> KenThomson: you're welcome. one step at a time. believe me you'll learn to appreciate using a real operating system
[07:31] <gogeta> ken what you mean
[07:32] <gogeta> you have a choice on witch fs you wanna use
[07:32] <Mugginsm> well, I threw out the included eclipse and java, and downloaded upstream versions from Sun and Eclipse, and now I have working eclipse on edgy amd64 :)
[07:32] <crimsun> KenThomson: you don't need to specify an fs type. Just leave it unpartitioned.
[07:32] <gogeta> riser or ex3 are most common
[07:32] <Mugginsm> and it's faaast
[07:32] <jermsie> *buts in* Ubuntu has frustrated me so much today.
[07:32] <crimsun> KenThomson: the installer will take care of initialising the fs "type."
[07:32] <Xenguy> wally4: better to use ~/.bash_profile for environmental variables
[07:32] <gogeta> ubuntu will default to ext3
[07:32] <jcvasquezt> hello everyone
[07:33] <vidd> YEAH...i got my wire LAN back up
[07:33] <KenThomson> gogeta: I was referring to my question on the forum. If you are interested to help, see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287650
[07:34] <vidd> now can someone help with BCM43xx?
[07:34] <KenThomson> crimsun: But dont i need to select it from a whole list of fs, that ubuntu installer provides? I was looking for some answer like, X fs, is the most effecient (performance wise), and use Y fs, if you want it to be seen by windows too, something like that
[07:35] <vidd> windows will never see linux
[07:35] <newbuntie> is there a gui version of cdrecord (or another gui program that can burn an .iso image?)
[07:35] <charle97> the fs you use is really a personal preference
[07:35] <Madpilot> KenThomson, to answer your question #2 - Linux is far, far better at RAM management than Windows; no need for extra apps just for something like that.
[07:35] <E[m] ess> hi, im getting an error that composite manager crashed twice in a minute and has been clsoed for teh session whenever i switch my WM from kwin to beryl. in beryl, all the window borders disappear and minimised windows show up, and i cant move any of them or use beryl effects, any ideas?
[07:36] <crimsun> KenThomson: if you're not sure, choosing the installer-provided default for fs type is a safe general case. There is no "best fs" in general; it's all application and use case-dependent.
[07:36] <E[m] ess> newbuntie: k3b
[07:36] <rbil> KenThomson: when Ubuntu installs it'll take care of it. ext3 for / and a swap partition will be created automatically. Windows partition will be resized. Or you can use that utility (bootable cd) to first resize what you want. Just leave empty space on hd for Ubuntu to use
[07:37] <Xenguy> KenThomson: if you like black magic, you'll love linux :-)
[07:37] <Madpilot> KenThomson, the installer's default is EXT3, which is fine - there's even an EXT3 driver available for XP
[07:37] <rbil> KenThomson: and forget about lettered drives like C, D, etc. Linux doesn't use that silliness. All drives will be mounted under your main file structure in Linux.
[07:38] <jcvasquezt> i need some help with permissions in ubuntu...
[07:38] <wally4> Xenguy: I can't get ~/.bash_profile working either..
[07:38] <whishup> I'm trying to find information about the UUID fstab that I now see in Edgy, I'm trying to mount a new drive through the shell and am unsure what to do.
[07:38] <Xenguy> wally4: break down the steps of what you are trying to do
[07:38] <KenThomson> gogeta: When i send a PM to you, I get a message like Private Messages for unregistered users are block due to spammers...so are you getting back my PMs or not?
[07:38] <Xenguy> wally4: like what EV, what commands, etc.
[07:38] <KenThomson> Xenguy: what is black magic?
[07:39] <Madpilot> KenThomson, you need to register with FreeNode to be able to PM
[07:39] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell KenThomson about register
[07:39] <wally4> Xenguy: export LM_LICENSE_FILE = "/blah/blah/license.dat"
[07:39] <Xenguy> KenThomson: well, for example, their are 'daemons' running around your linux box right now =)
[07:39] <vidd> LOL
[07:39] <KenThomson> Madpilot: So i can read EXT3 in Windows XP? does it mean that i can install programs (.exe) from Windows on a EXT3 partition and still use them to run in Windows, without any performace loss
[07:39] <KenThomson> MAdpilot: Whats the name of that driver, please?
[07:40] <Madpilot> KenThomson, I doubt it, about the install part. And ask Google about EXT3 drivers for XP - I no longer run Windows at all
[07:40] <rbil> KenThomson: I wouldn't even if it was possible
[07:40] <vidd> but those deamons are no wher near as bad as the ghosts, spirits and devils in the standard windows mnachine
[07:40] <KenThomson> rbil: So do i have a choice in which directory or logical drive or folder (i dont know what to call it in Linux), i install new programs from ubuntu?
[07:40] <jcvasquezt> i have an external drive, it is already mounted but i don't have writing permission on it, when i try do modify the permissions using chmod it says "Read- only file system"
[07:41] <rbil> KenThomson: not usually, it puts them automatically where they should be
[07:41] <charle97> kenthomson, create a special fat32 partition so that you can share files between ubuntu and windows
[07:41] <KenThomson> vidd and Xenguy: Thanks for telling me my Linux Box can be haunted ;-)
[07:41] <wally4> Xenguy: which works fine from the prompt, but adding it to the end of bash_profile doesn't do anything..it gets called whenever i start a new terminal session right?
[07:41] <jcvasquezt> the same happens when i try to copy or erase a file in that disk
[07:42] <rbil> KenThomson: it's application installation is way ahead of anything Windoze offers, it's like comparing Photoshop to an Etch-A-Sketch
[07:42] <Xenguy> wally4: OK, try this...
[07:42] <vidd> no...not haunted....that is your windows box
[07:42] <xarq> I have windows installed on hda1, and ubuntu installed on another hard drive(hdc1).  is it possible for grub to boot windows?
[07:42] <Schalken> where can i get the md5 for the edgy iso?
[07:42] <Xenguy> wally4: try putting 2 lines (customized according to your specific needs)...
[07:42] <Xenguy> wally4: MAIL="/var/spool/mail/$USER" export MAIL
[07:42] <Madpilot> KenThomson, Linux doesn't use the Program Files method Windows does; instead apps get installed whereever they need to be, and tracked by the OS
[07:42] <Xenguy> wally4: oops
[07:42] <Madpilot> Schalken, same place you got the ISO
[07:42] <KenThomson> Is creating a fat32 partition the only way to make programs installed on that partition to be seen and run in Windows too? Or would ext3 work fine?
[07:42] <temple_kid> hello everyone! :-)
[07:43] <deep__> xarq, yes it is :)
[07:43] <Xenguy> wally4: the 2nd line is export MAIL
[07:43] <temple_kid> i am having some trouble connecting to a cifs share that i have created on my ubuntu pc.
[07:43] <KenThomson> Madpilot: So  i dont need to worry about one of my logical drive being "full", will Linux automatically install a program to another drive if one of my logical drive becomes full?
[07:43] <vidd> you cant run linux programs on winbloze
[07:43] <temple_kid> can someone help me?
[07:43] <Xenguy> wally4: you may need to logout and log back in
[07:43] <jdrake> I am on launchpad to report a bug, how do I attach the file the bug reporter asks me to attach?
[07:43] <rbil> KenThompson: keep your Windoze apps separate and away form Linux. Linux will be able to read/write to a FAT32 drive, which is where you can store data, like MP3s, etc.
[07:43] <Xenguy> KenThomson: I love Hallowe'en :-)
[07:44] <vidd> the fat 32 is so you can share files....like that report you have to rite
[07:44] <Madpilot> KenThomson, I doubt it, but if you arrange your Linux root (/) to be large enough, you won't have many space issues - 10Gb should be fine
[07:44] <monkey13> How in the hell do I get WPA2 auth for my wireless to work?   Help Please...
[07:44] <temple_kid> a little cifs help anyone?
[07:44] <xarq> deep__: for some reason, grub couldn't find the drive when I tried (hd1,1) or (hd2,1) etc.  is this bad?
[07:44] <KenThomson> I know that i cant run Windows program on Linux or the other way. What i am telling is that, i want to make a shared partition such that both Windows and Linux Program can be installed there + my work files, so that in the respective OS, the respective programs can be run, while the data can be shared
 i messaged all your answers
[07:45] <Schalken> Madpilot: okay found it didnt know i had to go into "other installation options"
[07:45] <KenThomson> gogeta: Thank you, <how do we make a kissing smily?> ;)
[07:45] <E[m] ess> nobody uses beryl and aiglx in here?
[07:45] <rbil> KenThompson: you cannot install Linux applications on a FAT32 drive. It won't be able to handle the permissions required
[07:45] <zman3> i need some help on a few things if anyones got a momment 1) how can i tell what kernal im using?
[07:45] <jcvasquezt> hi all, I'm having problems with permissions in my external hard drive, it says that is Read- only file system.... can someone help me?
[07:45] <gogeta> when you resize windows ubuntu will auto set up for booting both oses
[07:45] <Madpilot> E[m] ess, #ubuntu-xgl
[07:45] <E[m] ess> thanks :)
[07:45] <deep__> xarq, to be honest, i dont know. :/
[07:45] <KenThomson> rbil: So than what type of partition should i use for my aforementioned requirement?
[07:46] <deep__> xarq, but i am sure you can boot into windows, if you know where windows is.
[07:46] <rbil> KenThomson: don't worry about, the installation will take care of what you need in terms of Linux requirements.
[07:46] <gogeta> yes just dont slect use entire drive lol
[07:46] <rbil> KenThomson: for Windoze requirements you know what you need and that is no concern of Linux.
[07:46] <deep__> xarq, it isnt harder then selecting that partition as root, it will do the rest by itself
[07:46] <Geoffrey2> KenThomson, best bet is to install Windows on one partition, Linux a second, then create a third you save all your data files too...THAT partition can be either FAT32 or ext3....doesn't matter which
[07:47] <Madpilot> KenThomson, assuming you'll be dual-booting XP & Ubuntu, you'll need one NTFS partition (XP & it's apps), one FAT32 partition (for sharing *data* between the two) and two EXT3 partions for Ubuntu - one for root, one for home
[07:47] <vidd> jcvasquezt: set chmod -R to the desired permission level using sudo
[07:47] <mythtv> How do I tell gnome to let me move windows above the top pane?
[07:47] <xarq> deep__: ok, I think I've found the right settings on google.  thanks!
[07:47] <monkey13> E[m] ess:  I just joined in, I use beryl and aiglx.
[07:47] <gogeta> i assume ken aruldy has xp installed
[07:47] <Xenguy> mythtv: alt-mouse  ?
[07:47] <gogeta> so gpartations only need to resize it
[07:47] <temple_kid> any samba users here?
[07:47] <E[m] ess> monkey13: im getting an error that composite manager crashed twice in a minute and has been clsoed for teh session whenever i switch my WM from kwin to beryl. in beryl, all the window borders disappear and minimised windows show up, and i cant move any of them or use beryl effects, any ideas?
[07:48] <gogeta> witch if i rember can do safly now
[07:48] <KenThomson> Madpilot, geoffrey2, rbil Thank you
[07:48] <rbil> you're welcome. goog luck and welcome to Ubuntu Linux
[07:48] <mythtv> Xenguy:  I mean like how beryl has a setting in gconf-editor that lets you move the window above the top panel.  Doesn't just plain gnome have something similar?
[07:48] <wally4> Xenguy: yes i've already tried it as two lines, no luck
[07:48] <vidd> temple_kid: i use it
[07:48] <Xenguy> mythtv: dunno
[07:48] <temple_kid> vidd: i am having some trouble with it.
[07:49] <Werdna> ~tell me about WLAN
[07:49] <Werdna> !WLAN
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about WLAN - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <vidd> temple_kid:: what issue you having?
[07:49] <Werdna> ><
[07:49] <zman3> i need some help on a few things if anyones got a momment 1) how can i tell what kernal im using? and what kernal i need for a dual core amd to run xgl
[07:49] <temple_kid> when i am trying to access my cifs share drive (that i created using samba). it is asking for a username and password.
[07:49] <jcvasquezt> vidd, what do you mean using sudo?
[07:49] <Xenguy> wally4: you'll have to go/explain step-by-step, I guess, until an error presents itself -- unless you are stubborn enough to fix it yourself
[07:49] <KenThomson> So in my 40GB HDD, 10GB (NTFS) is for Windows XP + it's apps, 10GB (ext3) is for Linux + it's apps, 20GB (fat32 or what?, should NTFS or ext3 work here?) is for data sharring like mp3s, video, files.
[07:49] <Werdna> what's the factoid for WLAN?
[07:49] <urz> zman3: uname -a
[07:50] <temple_kid> i am entering my username and password on ubuntu pc (which is where i have setup the samba share)
[07:50] <temple_kid> and it doesn't seem to work.
[07:50] <ria> kann man auf deutsch schreiben?
[07:50] <rbil> KenThomson: use FAT32 to share data between the 2 os's
[07:50] <Xenguy> wally4: I meant to add a smiley :-)
 is windows currently installed?
[07:50] <snoops> blah fat32 is crap
[07:50] <zman3> ok im using i686 is that ok for amd dual core?
[07:50] <KenThomson> Now just as i am digesting this; Madpilot says this "and two EXT3 partions for Ubuntu - one for root, one for home". So i need 2 partitions of Ubuntu specifically? Cant it manage on a single Partition?
[07:51] <snoops> use the windows ext3 driver from fs-driver.org to share between linux and windows
 in comand line, cd to your drive
[07:51] <Xenguy> snoops: yeah, it's only useful for sharing writeable data =)
[07:51] <Madpilot> KenThomson, it can, but two is better
[07:51] <KenThomson> gogeta: This is being typed from Windows XP pro
 many users use diffrent setups
[07:51] <wally4> ~/.bash_profile I add two lines to the bottom of the file
[07:51] <newbuntie> what software do I use to create some kind of a backup procedure?
 then type sudo chmod -R  then set the desired permissions
[07:51] <rbil> KenThompson, one can setup more than 2 ext3 partitions. everyone has an opinion. go with the default install.
[07:51] <wally4> LM_LICENSE_FILE = "~/Desktop/modeltech/license.dat"
[07:51] <kazaru> hello any one here know how to solve the "hw_random: RNG not detected" error during boot?
 ok then when you slect manul partationg from the installer your going to see ntfs
[07:51] <wally4> export LM_LICENSE_FILE
[07:51] <crimsun> kazaru: that's not an error.
that is windows
 can you help me understand where i am going wrong with my samba share?
[07:52] <KenThomson> gogeata: ok....
[07:52] <wally4> shouldn't that get executed every time I start a terminal session?
[07:52] <rbil> gogeta: too complicated. let him get his feet wet and he can reshuffle things around later if he wants to
[07:52] <kazaru> what is it crimsun
 the command "sudo" means "do as su [blank]  (AKA root)
[07:52] <crimsun> kazaru: it's an informational message, aka warning.
[07:52] <gogeta> rbil he whants to run both oses
[07:52] <gogeta> hes gona need to resize
 i will try
[07:53] <rbil> I know, but he certainly doesn't need 2 ext3 partitions
[07:53] <highneko> Help please; http://rafb.net/paste/results/O6sqVn58.html
 what is (or is not) happening
[07:53] <xipietotec> I have a file owned by root in the trash bin that I can't delete from trash...and It won't see it in the command line because it's a hidden file
[07:53] <gogeta> i did say he did
[07:53] <gogeta> i didnt
[07:53] <Xenguy> wally4: remove the spaces, and hardcode /home/$USER instead of ~
[07:53] <any> hello everybody
[07:53] <Xenguy> wally4: that's about all I can suggest; everything else looks correct to me
[07:53] <rbil> I thought you suggested / /home swap, but maybe it was someone else. sorry
 when i enter my username/password of my ubuntu login, it basically tells me its an invalid combination.
[07:53] <jcvasquezt> vidd, as root i type: root@juancamilo:/media# chmod u+w Outsider2
[07:53] <jcvasquezt> chmod: changing permissions of `Outsider2': Read-only file system
 your gonna wanna resize windows you dont need to give linux all the space maybe 10 gigd or so and leave the rest to windows
[07:54] <newbuntie> what software do I use to do backups? for example how do I do regular backups to another harddrive
 i don't know what other username/password it could be looking for.
[07:54] <Xenguy> wally4: you could try some simpler EV tests to see if it even works in principle too
[07:54] <Cam-> hi, im just about to try out 6.10.. im running a AMD 64 X2 Dual Core 4200, should i run the AMD64 version or the i386 version. is performance increased? are their just as many 64bit packages as i386?
[07:54] <rbil> newbuntie: you can look at a prog called rdiff-backup
[07:54] <Xenguy> wally4: like PATH or some such
 then you make a linux partation from the unallacted space ext3 i guess leave a bit left for swap
 when you set up your samba share, you were required to give it a user name and password.....that is what it wants
 between 512 and 1 gig for swap depending on how mutch ram you have left
[07:55] <KenThomson> gogeta: You PMed me to say that Linux 6.10 supports 3d desktop out of the box, but i need to install nvidia drivers for it ( i have nvidia fx 5200 - 128MB - Graphics Card), But you aslo said that Ubuntu installs nvidia drivers by default.
 or are you trying to log in to your machine remotely?
[07:55] <xipietotec> I have a file owned by root in the trash bin that I can't delete from trash...and It won't see it in the command line because it's a hidden file
[07:55] <jack|ass> Is flash broken on Firefox in Edgy?
[07:55] <xipietotec> how do I delete it from command line?
 the fx serisesupports 2d out of the box
[07:55] <Xenguy> xipietotec: ls -a  ?
[07:56] <Xenguy> xipietotec: should show hidden files
 however for 3d you will need to install the nivida drivers
[07:56] <KenThomson> gogeta: So do i have 3d Desktop out of the box, or do i need to get some EXTRA drivers for 3D? Where do i get the 3D drivers from?
[07:56] <snoops> Cam- I've tried the amd64 and i386 of 6.06 and really, the amd64 is brilliant if you want to do server stuff..but I had problems with it with some applications, and some older apps didn'thave 64bit support at all..for a server I'd go with 64bit in a second.. for a desktop..not quite yet
[07:56] <xipietotec> I'm trying rm -rf and it doesn't delete it
[07:56] <Xenguy> xipietotec: 'rm' to delete
 i didn't see where i could enter the username and password. i setup via System>Administration>Shared Folders and I saw no option for a username/password combo.
 the easest way would to enable the unvers from apt and simple install them
[07:56] <Cam-> Cheers snoops.
 let me look at it right quick
[07:57] <urz> xipietotec: ls -a shows hidden files
 thanks vidd really appreciate your help!
[07:57] <xipietotec> w00t...finally, figured out what I was doing wrong...
[07:57] <Xenguy> xipietotec: what?
[07:58] <xipietotec> Xenguy: the file was named .trash (in lower case) so I was real afraid of deleting .Trash so I was attempting to direct rm -rf to it, and it didn't like that really
[07:58] <snoops> Cam- oh one thing though, with the i386 edition, I had to install the -smp enabled kernel for it to notice my dual core processor
[07:58] <whishup> How do I find out where my new IDE drive is? I've already formatted it to etx3 but when I try to mount it (/dev/hdc/) it says it cant find it.
 do you have the sare folder as read only?
[07:58] <Xenguy> xipietotec: ic
[07:58] <Cam-> i heard there was significant improvement on the ntfs module that enables write?
 no.
[07:59] <Cam-> its been a while since ive touched linux, last time i remembered write was extremely dodgy and caused fs corruption
[07:59] <xipietotec> the linux version of Freespace 2 is a maze to install
 how are you trying to access this folder?
[07:59] <Cam-> cheers snoops, ill do that
[07:59] <xipietotec> I can't even make sense of it
[07:59] <Cam-> doesnt detect the dual core on install and auto install smp?
[07:59] <rbil> whishup: what does sudo fdisk -l tell you?
[07:59] <whishup> rbil: checking
 the cifs share is setup on my ubuntu box and i am trying to access it via MAC OS X.
 thers 2 sets of drivers opensource with on the fx cards only supports 2d
[08:00] <nevermind> buenas noches :)
[08:00] <whishup> rbil: /dev/hdc1               1       38913   312568641   83  Linux
 Mac OS X supports cifs shares
 the second are from nivida themselfs witch supports 3d
[08:00] <nevermind> sry, wrong language :P
 by default ubuntu only includs the opensource
[08:00] <whishup> rbil: I missed the 1!
[08:01] <nevermind> i'm having a problem with the optin "blanktime" in xorg, anyone has an idea of it?
[08:01] <whishup> I think its mounted, checking
 it does seem to work as it picks up my ubuntu box and also the share name. just doesn't like the username/password combo
[08:01] <rbil> :-)
[08:01] <snoops> Cam- it didn't for 6.06 dapper, hopefully it does auto install the smp one for edgy
[08:02] <KenThomson> gogeta: So i go to Nvidia's website, download the "offical drivers", install them somehow ( i dont know how i am going to manage all this on Linux), and than i shall have 3d desktop, right?
[08:02] <whishup> rbil: Yep! Free Space: 278.3 GB
[08:02] <basilf> How do I get root access in a file manager use to just login as root to make changes sudo su and command lines are a pain can anyone tell me how to get file manager run under root with less than 10 commands to get to it
[08:02] <whishup> Now to get it into fstab =)
[08:02] <rbil> nice size
[08:02] <Mugginsm> edgy picked up my dual-core Athlon64 just fine
 diont even need tro do that
[08:02] <whishup> Thanks, preparing to clear out a windows box with 6 drives (Collecting the data to one drive)
do you have the permissions of the folder set so ALL are able to read/Write/Exicute?
 you enable all the sources in ubuntu then simply apt-get install nivida-glx
[08:02] <os2mac> anyone wifi smart?
 thers a guide
 showing all the ways tro do it
[08:03] <eigenlambda> i just upgraded to edgy
 its abought 3 commands and your done
[08:03] <eigenlambda> and gnome crashes on startup now
[08:04] <eigenlambda> so does failsafe gnome.  i'm here in the failsafe terminal.
[08:04] <whishup> rbil: When I browse it through nataulis I can't create a folder or file (Right clicking)
 same thing happonds to my frend trying to update
 yes i have all the permissions. its my home directory on ubuntu by the way.
[08:05] <rbil> whishup how does fstab list it?
[08:05] <eigenlambda> gogeta: swell.
 i did it from cd
[08:05] <jcvasquezt> vidd, i'm sorry, it's not working yet.
 try passing init 3 so x doesent start
 and reconferging it
[08:05] <whishup> rbil: /dev/hdc        /media/320gb    auto    0       0
[08:05] <sami> anyone using edgy with openbox? what commands i should put to autostart.sh script.. i want openbox with some basic gnome operations.. like powersaving etc
[08:05] <whishup> rbil: Am I missing rw?
[08:05] <eigenlambda> reconfigure x... yeah, i've been doing that for a while
[08:06] <hap0> These bugs and glitches are getting kind of old...
[08:06] <KenThomson> gogeta: You were talking about a guide or 3-commands, i could appreciate if you could outline them or link to the guide for me. This is in reference to using 3d official nivida drivers for my fx 5200 graphics card
[08:06] <eigenlambda> apparently, the ati driver is completely wrong
[08:06] <jcvasquezt> vidd, i type sudo chmod -R u+w drive name, but i can't move files to that drive
 oh yes i knoe that bug
[08:06] <sontek> Whats the best way to go about compiling my own custom kernel but getting the .config from the ubuntu kernel so I can see all of its settings
[08:06] <eigenlambda> and, it crashes in some glx thing
[08:06] <hap0> I'm booted into Edgy, and it won't install because it says I haven't chosen a partition for the root file system...
[08:06] <eigenlambda> gogeta: what's the bug?
 manuly set the memery it will run
[08:07] <Lars> is there a faq on howto get the ubuntu.iso onto a usbpen and use it as an install"cd"
 i just paseed 80000 worked fine
[08:07] <eigenlambda> huh?
[08:07] <eigenlambda> no, it says wrong version
[08:07] <Parisi> gnite all
 did it forget to update the kernel
[08:07] <rbil> whishup: try this ... /dev/hdc1	/mnt/newdrive	ext3	defaults  0 0      .... whatever u want to call mount point and better under mnt than media as that is where removables typically get mounted
you need to cd to the drive...ie cd /media/hdc4/
[08:07] <eigenlambda> lol i don't even know
[08:08] <michae1> Does someone know how I can get a custom resolution to work with the nvidia-glx drivers?
[08:08] <babo> is there any .deb that will set up a chrooted mysql/apache setup ?
[08:08] <rbil> whishup: get the correct spaces in that line!
[08:08] <hap0> michael: Give it up, it won't work.
 where you using the download ati drivers?
[08:09] <vidd> jcvasquezt: THEN sudo chmod -R a+w
[08:09] <whishup> rbil: /dev/hdc1       /media/320gb    auto    defaults        0       0 (This is a temporary mount to move 250gbs of data)
[08:09] <hap0> Been there done that, and now I'm fussing with Edgy and it can't understand that '/' is the mount point for a root filesystem
[08:09] <vidd> jcvasquezt you want to set it as either (a)ll or (g)roup....
[08:09] <michae1> hap0: It works fine with the the default drivers
[08:09] <whishup> rbil: I missed ext3
[08:10] <rbil> whishup: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29016/
[08:10] <gogeta> ken hear is a automated driver installer
[08:10] <vidd> jcvasquezt because you as the main account are part of the SUPER USER group (like root is)
[08:10] <gogeta> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[08:10] <jcvasquezt> vidd, all is fine,
[08:10] <hap0> Yeah if your happy with two choices 1024x768 || 640x480 on a card that supports 1600x1200... Yep, works just fine.
[08:10] <vidd> jcvasquezt you are setting it so that root and everyone BUT you can write
[08:10] <eigenlambda> i have linux-image-386 and linux-restrictied-modules 2.6.17-10
[08:11] <blobaugh> will: you are a loser and i hate you
[08:11] <eigenlambda> gogeta: no, i was using ubuntu-supplied drivers
[08:11] <blobaugh> will: what the heck are you in here for anyways?
[08:11] <gogeta> even better
[08:11] <gogeta> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[08:11] <vidd> jcvasqueztits working now?
[08:11] <gogeta> a guide fr everything you need to knoe
[08:11] <eigenlambda> (i try to do things the ubuntu way because i don't want much trouble... lol)
[08:11] <vidd> jcvasquezt is it working now
[08:12] <whishup> rbil: Ok, I am going to try to reboot. I've checked (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29016/) and did a mount -a but I still cant make a folder in it. I think maybe rebooting this might do the trick.
[08:12] <sexywexy18> hi
[08:12] <hap0> gogeta: Yeah Edgy, the release that can't figure out how to mount the root filesystem to '/'
[08:12] <eigenlambda> which is why it was so weird when it said that i had the wrong version of the 'ati' driver.
[08:12] <eigenlambda> that's free software and should be updated with x.
[08:12] <michae1> hap0: I can get 15+ resolutions to work with the defeault drivers and I can get a custom refreshrate when it doesnt have one that I want, but I cant get it to work with the nvidia drivers.
[08:12] <blobaugh> !seen will
[08:12] <ubotu> will is on IRC right now!
[08:12] <Sambrista> Hello everybody!! I've installed ubuntu edgy and my ttys doesn't show my language's special characters correctly. Can anyone tell me how to set it?
 humm oss drivers failing
[08:12] <blobaugh> ;seen will
[08:13] <rbil> whishup: reboot shouldn't be necessary  mount -a will reread the fstab
[08:13] <urz> heh
[08:13] <eigenlambda> i use alsa, wouldn't know.
[08:13] <whishup> rbil: ok
[08:13] <hap0> michael: Exactly my point.
 did you do upgrade or dist upgrade
[08:13] <urz> the great tragic romance of will and blobaugh
[08:13] <eigenlambda> i used the upgrade tool
[08:13] <DeadSouL> Is there any Chineese who can register me an QQ acount?
[08:13] <gogeta> dist then
[08:13] <vidd> urz they married or something? they act it
[08:13] <eigenlambda> i was all, gksudo 'update-manager -c'
[08:14] <whishup> rbil: I wonder if its simple permmissions?
[08:14] <gogeta> and thers a driver problem with x
[08:14] <hap0> michael: I was referring to the defaults following the nvidia-glx install.
[08:14] <rbil> yep
[08:14] <whishup> rbil: Thats what it is =)
[08:14] <rbil> on the mnt/...
[08:14] <whishup> rbil: yes, so I'll chown to nobody?
[08:14] <whishup> or.. lol wait
 i think maybe the updater skiped something
[08:14] <Werdna> hey, I'm having trouble with my WLAN adapter (Netgear WG121), which I previously got working using the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111 - and suddenly stopped working. wlan0 no longer appears as an option.
[08:14] <eigenlambda> well.  fglrx failed me... so i tried to fall back to ati, but it said that was the wrong version.
[08:14] <fnf> Anyone has an idea of what is the purpose of linux-server and linux-image-server in my Dapper server installation ?. Ubuntu seemed to have included it by default in 2.6.15.26, but it's no loger necessary after upgrading 10 15.27.
[08:15] <dre_> hi, ive been looking into Edgy and FC6... is it easy to use the FC6 theme in Ubuntu? (is there a howto on this somewhere?)
[08:15] <jcvasquezt> vidd, is not working, this is what i get: juancamilo@juancamilo:/$ cd media/Outsider2
[08:15] <jcvasquezt> juancamilo@juancamilo:/media/Outsider2$ sudo chmod -R a+w
[08:15] <jcvasquezt> Password:
[08:15] <jcvasquezt> chmod: missing operand after `a+w'
[08:15] <jcvasquezt> Try `chmod --help' for more information.
[08:15] <jcvasquezt> juancamilo@juancamilo:/media/Outsider2$
[08:15] <eigenlambda> gogeta: ok... but apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade don't show anythnig
 boot into init 3 you pass that in the boot loader then try running apt-get update ## apt-get dist-upgrade see if it does anything
[08:15] <temple_kid> any CIFS users here?
[08:15] <whishup> rbil: Is there something I should be doing other than chown'ing to nobody? Or should I chown it to whishup
[08:15] <hap0> dre_: I'd recommend FC6.
[08:15] <gogeta> @@
[08:15] <michae1> hap0: Well I can get the same 15+ resolutions with the nvidia drivers, except the custom refreshrate that worked with nv doesn't work with nvidia
[08:16] <rbil> whishup: why chown at all? give write permissions to all
[08:16] <vidd> jcvasquezt that usually means it completed without errors
[08:16] <eigenlambda> why would apt-get act any differently after a reboot and without starting x?
[08:16] <rbil> you want all users to be able to write to it, no?
[08:16] <vidd> jcvasquezt can you write to is now?
[08:16] <whishup> rbil: Ok, I am unsure how to go about that. I know, simple question
[08:16] <whishup> rbil: yes
[08:16] <rbil> man chmod
[08:16] <whishup> thx
[08:16] <hap0> michael: Congratulations. You must have lucked out. Are you using 6.06 or 6.10 edgy?
 you said your in recovery mode
[08:16] <eigenlambda> no
[08:16] <temple_kid> Can anyone please help me with a CIFS question?
[08:16] <eigenlambda> im in failsafe terminal
[08:16] <whishup> rbil: lol, got it =)
[08:17] <basilf> How do I get root access in a file manager use to just login as root to make changes sudo su and command lines are a pain can anyone tell me how to get file manager run under root with less than 10 commands to get to it
[08:17] <eigenlambda> because gnome crashes
[08:17] <michae1> hap0: 6.06.1
[08:17] <whishup> rbil: fstab made me forget 5 years of linux
[08:17] <eigenlambda> but failsafe terminal doesn't
[08:17] <eigenlambda> for some reason
 ok did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:17] <jcvasquezt> vidd, error while copying to "/media/Outsider2". you do not have permissions to write to this folder.
[08:17] <Ademan> eigenlambda: what happens when gnoem crashes?
[08:17] <eigenlambda> ya
[08:17] <stonarmusic> temple_kid - what's the question?
[08:17] <eigenlambda> well
[08:17] <eigenlambda> it loads up
[08:17] <eigenlambda> up until the panels show up
[08:17] <dre_> hap0: thanks, another thing I've been reading about is upstart in Edgy... is there a big difference between FC6 vs Edgy's boot time?
[08:17] <eigenlambda> doesn't show anything on them
[08:17] <Synner_> Problems compiling gnomba in Ubuntu Dapper Drake.. anyone care to help me with the Error?
[08:17] <hap0> michael: That's really great. That's exactly what I've got here and only have two options. More power two you. Im
[08:18] <eigenlambda> oh yeah, the icons show up on the desktop
[08:18] <vidd> jcvasquezt chown the drive to yourself then
[08:18] <urz> sudo file-manager-prog
[08:18] <whishup> rbil: Thank you for the help!, all is working.
 oh i thought you said x wasent loading
 i setup a cifs share on my ubuntu desktop using samba
[08:18] <eigenlambda> then, the screen goes white
[08:18] <rbil> fine, :-)
[08:18] <Ademan> dre_: right now it doesnt really make a difference because even though its using upstart, it still folows the old systemV boot routine
[08:18] <vidd> jcvasquezt sudo chown [input username here] 
[08:18] <Synner_> Problems compiling gnomba in Ubuntu Dapper Drake.. anyone care to help me with the Error?
[08:18] <eigenlambda> and then it displays something that looks like a virtual console
[08:18] <Ademan> dre_: but i believe they're changing that in the next version
[08:18] <hap0> dre_: Well, not so much that would make a huge difference as long as FC6 works it's way ahead of this IMO.
 now i am trying to access it on my mac os x box and its asking me for a username/password
[08:18] <Ademan> eigenlambda: wierd wierd wierd
[08:18] <eigenlambda> but you can't use it, and it has some flickering white junk
[08:19] <eigenlambda> then, it goes back to gdm
 did you try reconfgured gdm
[08:19] <basilf> Thanks for nothing
 i don't know what username/password to give as i didn't setup one while setting up the cifs share.
[08:19] <Jaws> Anyone here know how to get flash 9 working on the 64bit version?  I've been trying for a while, but to no avail.  I've been trying to follow this although i cant get it to work
[08:19] <michae1> hap0: Well have you gone thru the command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[08:19] <Thorpeh> war driving is illegal right ?
[08:19] <Jaws> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[08:19] <Thorpeh> in the us
[08:19] <rbil> Thorpeh: only if you're caught
 i tried using my ubuntu username/password and that doesn't seem to work.
[08:19] <vidd> rbil lol
[08:20] <Thorpeh> :)
[08:20] <Jaws> Thorpeh: Actually I dont think it is if they dont secure it
 hummmmm seems gnome itsself is failing
[08:20] <rbil> Thorpeh: like jaywalking
[08:20] <eigenlambda> ya
[08:20] <hap0> michael: yep, and I'm a linux certified pro on top of that, so config files are nothing to me.
[08:20] <eigenlambda> except
[08:20] <dre_> thanks for answering hap0 & Ademan
[08:20] <vidd> jcvasquezt any luck?
[08:20] <stonarmusic> trmple_kid - can you set it up again, this time with a user/pass that you know?
[08:21] <michae1> How I can get a custom resolution to work with the nvidia-glx drivers?
 have you tryed just reinstalling gnome
[08:21] <rbil> Thorpeh: you are only doing security checks and intend to tell victims, I mean open AP users, to secure their systems
[08:21] <stonarmusic> temple_kid - to be honest I've never shared from ubuntu to win/mac, only the other way around.
[08:21] <jcvasquezt> vidd,
[08:21] <jcvasquezt> juancamilo@juancamilo:/media/Outsider2$ sudo chown juancamilo
[08:21] <jcvasquezt> chown: missing operand after `juancamilo'
[08:21] <jcvasquezt> Try `chown --help' for more information.
[08:21] <Synner_> Anyone looking for some extra cash?  I could use the help and im willing to pay
 i have tried setting it up a few times, but it doesn't ask me for a username/password when i set it up.
[08:21] <hap0> I'm just burned out on this whole thing. I just thought I would try one more time before buying a used Mac. Looks like that's my next step at this point.
[08:21] <vidd> jcvasquezt man chown
[08:21] <eigenlambda> how do i do that?
[08:21] <dorto> any recommendation for a popular podcast aggregator tool for edgy? podracer, ipodder?
[08:22] <rbil> hap0: just think of the hassles of getting Ubuntu on a Mac
[08:22] <stonarmusic> temple_kid - are you using the command line?
[08:22] <Jaws> Anyone know a repository where I can get flashplugin-nonfree for x86_64?
[08:22] <hap0> I've given Ubuntu several tries over the last couple years, and I'm done.
[08:22] <eigenlambda> reinstall gnome?
 no i set it up via System>Administration>Shared Folders
[08:22] <crimsun> hap0: enjoy your mac, then.
[08:23] <hap0> rbil: Wrong. I've been using OSX at work and it just works.
[08:23] <Synner_> Anyone looking for some extra cash?  I could use the help and im willing to pay
[08:23] <rbil> hap0: yeh sure. works the way Apple wants it to work.
[08:23] <hap0> Thanks crimsun. I hope to see Linux come of age some day.
[08:23] <dorto> hap0: Mac should lose out to GNU/Linux at least in one area: number of applications supported
[08:23] <eigenlambda> are there any nice logs from gnome to look at?
[08:23] <mefistofeles> im looking for cash!
[08:23] <mefistofeles> :P
[08:23] <vidd> jcvasquezt sudo chown juancamilo *
[08:23] <Xenguy> hap0: just use whatever works, and whatever you are happy with
[08:24] <Synner_> mefisto: you good with Ubuntu?
[08:24] <vidd> jcvasquezt i thgink thats the right command
[08:24] <bef0rd> mefistofeles, 
[08:24] <nevermind> lol
[08:24] <mefistofeles> Synner_, actually no :S
[08:24] <mefistofeles> too bad
[08:24] <dorto> I always come back to GNU/Linux from Mac for the simple reason that there are soooo many apps for GNU/Linux
[08:24] <hap0> I don't need 16 different ways to edit a config file, and besides, it already comes with vi and emacs so I can use which ever one I feel like at the time.
[08:24] <nevermind> Synner_: what is ti that you need?
[08:24] <michae1> hap0: Well Linux can really be hit or miss.
[08:24] <Xenguy> dorto: it's also about 'freedom' ultimately
[08:25] <rbil> hap0: /join osx ... have fun!
[08:25] <eigenlambda> so the error message in the /var/log/Xorg.log.0 is
 apt-get remove gnome
[08:25] <eigenlambda> er, xorg.log.whatever
[08:25] <stonarmusic> temple_kid - i'm not sure how to do it like that. i used to use the command line, something like this ' mount -t cifs //my/ubuntu/shared/folder/path username=whatever,password=whatever, \\win_or_mac/shared_folder'
[08:25] <Synner_> nevermind: compile problems with Gnomba..  basic questions.. apache2.. samba..  server questions.. security
[08:25] <eigenlambda> lol r u serious??
[08:25] <eigenlambda> k can't hurt
[08:25] <hap0> I'll make sure to use emacs to log back into irc from osx, log a bug report from www, and send an email to the list once i've got my late model g4.
[08:25] <eigenlambda> shouldn't that be --purge remove?
 its ok i will search the internet. i thought someone here might have a quick answer.
[08:25] <dorto> Xenguy, yeah, some people just are ready to use whatever is available for a platform. Some like me want to search for the tool that best fits my taste and then stick with it
 workd to
[08:25] <stonarmusic> temple_kid - sorry
 thanks for you help. really appreciate it!
[08:26] <anuvismh> http://radiocanal96.cl/radio/admin.php
[08:26] <dorto> GNU/Linux gives me the freedom to chose from many options
 then install it again
[08:26] <nevermind> Synner_: ui'm good with: basic questions, samba, some server things and aslo some security
[08:26] <eigenlambda> shoudn't it be --purge remove though?
 purge then
[08:26] <nevermind> but just ask, i'll tell you what i can
[08:26] <michae1> hap0: ...well Linux suffers from all the talented develepors more interested in features than usability
[08:26] <vidd> jcvasquezt sorry....but i have to rack out.... i got to go to work in 3 hours
[08:26] <Xenguy> dorto: I look to the long run, and I see free software is what I need :-)
[08:26] <mefistofeles> michae1, thats true
[08:26] <KenThomson> crimsun:  You can netboot into a Ubuntu installer. Does that mean that without a "burned cd" with Ubuntu 6.10, i still can install it? I have the 6.10 ISO on HDD. Can someone suggest me how to install 6.10 without burning a CD.  I dont have a writer
[08:27] <eigenlambda> Package gnome is not installed, so not removed
[08:27] <eigenlambda> (!!!)
[08:27] <eigenlambda> 'k.  installing gnome then.
 lol
[08:27] <rbil> Xenguy: and no nothing about writing docs for endusers
 i would say thats the problem
 lol
[08:27] <jcvasquezt> vidd, thanks anyway
[08:27] <eigenlambda> wait.  doesn't ubuntu-desktop depend on gnome?
[08:27] <Xenguy> rbil: that varies
[08:27] <jcvasquezt> vidd, it says: chown: changing ownership of `Videos': Read-only file system
[08:27] <jcvasquezt> to all the files
[08:27] <dorto> Xenguy, one example is Internet Explorer. Just because it already had the monopoly and it was non-free, the creators never bothered to improve it for 5 long years
[08:28] <eigenlambda> but ubutu-desktop is prefectly fine
 yes lol
[08:28] <rbil> Xenguy: yep from bad to worse, usually
 gnome is the windows manager
[08:28] <Xenguy> rbil: often documentation is quite good
[08:28] <jcvasquezt> vidd, but it does not work
[08:28] <wally4> Xenguy: if I do $source ~/.bash_profile ... then the export works..but if I just start a new terminal session then it doesn't work
 beingit wasent there well thats why it crashed
[08:28] <eigenlambda> gnome wants to install abiword and stuff.
[08:28] <KenThomson> Can someone tell me from where do i control the programs that automatically run at Startup (like in Windows you can use 'msconfig')
[08:28] <Xenguy> dorto: yeah, IE is a dog
[08:28] <rbil> Xenguy: on some other guy's blog
[08:28] <dorto> users lose out in the end
 yea let it its a entire packge
 you can remove them later if you dnt whant them
[08:29] <nevermind> KenThomson: in system/preferences/sessions
[08:29] <crimsun> KenThomson: you boot your computer over the network.
[08:29] <urz>  KenThomson, see /etc/rc.d/*
[08:29] <daywalker> Hey ----> i've im running dapper.I have 2 sessions at boot 1 is xgl, id like to updgrade to 6.1, do i need to get rid of compiz & install beryl??
[08:29] <vidd> jcvasquezt your going to need to ask around.....i really need to sleep....i came her cuzz my wifi didnt work after upgradeing to edgy
[08:29] <Xenguy> wally4: hrm, so ~/.bash_profile is not being sourced at login ?
[08:29] <KenThomson> crimsun: How do i boot my computer over the network?
[08:29] <hap0> michael: Yes, and that's kind of where I'm at right now, and I'd just like to stop losing time to all of it and move on to doing something more fun than what feels like a constant serious of being tripped over a forgotten connection between xorg.conf and the GUI, or the ability to simply mount '/' to hda2 like I had the last time without receiving the complaint that I have designated a freakin' root filesystem...
[08:29] <wally4> Xenguy: I guess not?
[08:29] <jcvasquezt> vidd. thanks a lot for the help
 well we all knoe the updater  forgets to install the window managers now lol
[08:30] <goon> I can't manage to compile beagle: "configure: error: missing the mono.pc file, usually found in the mono-devel package"
[08:30] <Xenguy> wally4: maybe you need to source ~/.bashrc from within ~/.bash_profile  ?
[08:30] <goon> and mono-devel is already installed
[08:30] <goon> could someone help me?
[08:30] <crimsun> KenThomson: via PXE. The Ubuntu wiki has some instructions.
[08:30] <daywalker> do i need to uninstall xgl before upgrading to edgy?
[08:30] <khaije1> hi, whats the prefered vnc server for ubuntu?
[08:30] <gogeta> day walker no
[08:31] <daywalker> kewl
[08:31] <gogeta> edgy has aiglx installed in xorg
[08:31] <eigenlambda> daywalker: potentially.  not doing that made my computer crash.
[08:31] <michae1> How do I force nvidia drivers to use a certain rrefreshrate?
[08:31] <rbil> khaije1: system ...preferences ... remote desktop?
[08:31] <gogeta> edgy does not need xgl
[08:31] <Xenguy> wally4: that's what my default ~/.bash_profile does, by default
[08:32] <hap0> I'll give it another try in a couple years, but until then this is it. I'm done.
[08:32] <Xenguy> wally4: it's 3 lines of shell script if you need it
[08:32] <hap0> gogeta: No, edgy needs to mount root.
[08:32] <gogeta> LOL!
[08:32] <gogeta> mine did fine
[08:32] <Jaws> Does anyone know of flash 9 works for the 64bit version of ubuntu?
[08:32] <gogeta> the installer said it nedded to
[08:32] <gogeta> i hit next
[08:32] <dorto> khaije1, vnc server comes with most of the GNOME desktops these days...you might be searching for a client
[08:32] <gogeta> it did
[08:32] <eigenlambda> ok.  seeing how well gnome failsafe works now...
[08:33] <hap0> I hit next and it complained that my designation of hda2 as '/' did not count.
[08:33] <gogeta> outch
[08:33] <poningru> hap0: dude you need atleast 2 gigs of / space
[08:33] <hap0> exactly
[08:33] <progek> I've been trying to get a friend to try ubuntu but he says ubuntu "stole" fedora cores theme and painted it brown without giving credit. This is his largest complaint about ubuntu and is a big fedora fan. My question is, is this true or his he crazy? If Ubuntu DID take fedoras style is there some credits page to shoot this argument out of the water?
[08:33] <hap0> How about 9? Is that enough!
[08:33] <gogeta> yea 2 gigs
[08:33] <gogeta> yea lol
[08:33] <poningru> progek: eh?
[08:34] <poningru> progek: I can say the same thing about fedora
[08:34] <MrObvious> Here's a simple question: Is there a way I can get a Ubuntu deb for firefox 2?
[08:34] <nevermind> MrObvious: nop
[08:34] <numist> poningru: yeah, it was my party in san diego last night
[08:34] <hap0> frickin 9 for '/' and 8 for /home. Is someone feeling my pain?
 isnt back aruldy it must have worked such a thankless job lol
[08:34] <nevermind> just donwnload the tar.gz, and extract it to /opt
[08:34] <MrObvious> nevermind: Serious? Should I DL it from firefox's site and then install it manually?
[08:34] <Xenguy> progek: that sounds quite unlikely
[08:34] <poningru> numist: yeah jesse said he went there
[08:34] <numist> you know jesse?
[08:34] <xipietotec> progek: I dunno....but um...I just changed the theme
[08:35] <progek> really? :D because his argument can get a little boring after a while but he always goes back to the same thing. How can we say the same thing about fedora?
[08:35] <poningru> numist: yeah ofcourse... I hang out in moznet
[08:35] <progek> haha yeah xipietotec
[08:35] <rbil> progek: actually fedora stold the theme from me
[08:35] <JoseStefan> MrObvious, packages.ubuntu.com ?
[08:35] <numist> poningru: ah didnt know.  he hangs out here, you know
[08:35] <nevermind> MrObvious: it's not in repositeries yet, if you want it now, you can just get it from getfirefox site
[08:35] <poningru> here?
[08:35] <hap0> I'm tired of this. I even tried to initiate an install via straight CLI, but guess what, that option isn't on this ISO, that's the "alternative" ISO.
[08:35] <Xenguy> progek: just ask him for a solid reference, that'll shut him up ;-)
[08:35] <xipietotec> I've seriously customized my desktop
[08:35] <michae1> hap0: I suppose the really dull tasks that need to be done to make a decent OS just get papered over when no one gets paid for the fortnights worth of work needed to deliver it...
[08:36] <yojimbo-san> I have a system where I think some library files have been damaged; is there an apt option that will check the files on disk against what's in the package itself?
[08:36] <progek> ha yeah, I did.. he just says.. "loook, look at the desktop, look at the panels.. blah blah"
[08:36] <sanmarcos> anybody else getting http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/source/Sources.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) ?
[08:36] <gogeta> hap0 you must have done something wrong relly
[08:36] <KenThomson> Madpilot: ....(for sharing *data* between the two) and two EXT3 partions for Ubuntu - one for root, one for home. Will i have to create those two partitions manually or will Ubuntu do it automatically? And dont i need a swap partition? Does that mean i need three ext3 partitions for Linux?
[08:36] <poningru> MrObvious: you can just upgrade to edgy
[08:36] <hap0> I guess, but then how do you explain Microsoft? Cuz that's what this reminds me of?
[08:36] <rbil> hap0: don't worry with OSX you're going to pay to get it down "right" :-) DRMA and all
[08:36] <Jaws> Anyone know anything about flash 9 on 64bit?
[08:36] <MrObvious> poningru: Edgy?
[08:36] <Xenguy> progek: it's all gnome, right?
[08:36] <sanmarcos> Jaws: you are pretty much fucked
[08:36] <dorto> I tried installing Ubuntu from LiveCD only once, since then it's always the alternate cd that I download
[08:36] <lnx^> hey people
[08:37] <sanmarcos> Jaws: no 64 bit, nobody uses 64bit
[08:37] <rbil> good night folks
[08:37] <lnx^> my swap partition stopped working after upgrading to edgy
[08:37] <khaije1> rbil: dorto i'm trying to forward vnc through an ssh x-forwarding session
[08:37] <poningru> MrObvious: edgy has firefox 2.0 already
[08:37] <progek> does all fedora distros use gnome?
[08:37] <gogeta> live cd worked for me
[08:37] <ph8> sanmarcos: what age are you living in?
[08:37] <MrObvious> poningru: I haven't been really trying to keep up with Linux very well. What's edgy?
[08:37] <lnx^> i get: swapon -a
[08:37] <lnx^> swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/c1c6dbd4-0d36-44c3-877a-c937892c0d13: Invalid argument
[08:37] <poningru> MrObvious: you know ubuntu's stable
[08:37] <KenThomson> I again got confused. Can someone help. So in my 40GB HDD, 10GB (NTFS) is for Windows XP + it's apps, 10GB (ext3) is for Linux + it's apps, 20GB (fat32 or what?, should NTFS or ext3 work here?) is for data sharring like mp3s, video, files.
[08:37] <ph8> most decent new computers are 64 bit, or EMT64 at least
[08:37] <Madpilot> KenThomson, swap depends on how much RAM you've got; I've got 1Gb & no swap, don't really need it. You will need to lay out some partitions if you want seperate home
[08:37] <progek> I tried fc6 but was not very happy with the package management
[08:37] <poningru> MrObvious: uh check what channel you are in
[08:37] <Jaws> sanamrcos: Should I reformat to the 32bit then?
[08:37] <sanmarcos> progek: cheap apt copy
[08:37] <ph8> progek: you can always use kubuntu
[08:37] <ph8> Jaws: you can run flash9 in 32 bit mode?
[08:37] <rm_you_> errr... why isn't there a kde meta-package?
[08:37] <poningru> Jaws: unfortunately yes if you want flash etc. I would say yes
[08:37] <hap0> rbil: I'll have a heck of a lot easier time disabling that DRM crap at this point. At least it won't be Vista.
[08:37] <MrObvious> poningru: I know. Is that a version of Ubuntu that came out or something recently? Sorry I'm running on 4 hours of sleep.
[08:38] <poningru> rm_you_: there is its called kubuntu_desktop
[08:38] <ph8> presumably, although mine's never worked in firefox ever - as a 32 bit user
[08:38] <Jaws> sqnqmarcis: hmm alright
[08:38] <khaije1> rbil: dorto i usually just use the x-forwarding but i need to look at the window decorations so thats why i was thinking vnc
[08:38] <MukiEX> I have Ubuntu installed on a software raid hard drive setup, but for obvious reasons, Grub wouldn't install.
[08:38] <poningru> MrObvious: yep on 26th
 fat 32 couse windows will see it to
[08:38] <MrObvious> poningru: Edgy Is Released!! Oh ok. Read the topic lol.
[08:38] <rm_you_> poningru: I installed that in dapper (trying edgy now) and it changed a bunch of stuff i didnt want changed (like the boot-logo >_<)
[08:38] <MrObvious> !upgrade
[08:38] <Jaws> ph8: Well, I definetly cant get it to work in 64bit...
[08:38] <dorto> khaije1, you can read about FreeNX server
[08:38] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[08:38] <MukiEX> Are there any solutions for this?
[08:38] <progek> well I really like gnome, just wish he could give ubuntu a rest because I think it's a great distro. He convinced me to try out fc but I didn't really like it too much. I don't think their community is as large or helpful either.
[08:38] <poningru> rm_you_: you can change it all back
[08:38] <poningru> rm_you_: check the wiki
[08:38] <rm_you_> poningru: please god tell me how
 you cant wright to ntfs threw linux at this time
[08:39] <rm_you_> poningru: err ok
[08:39] <poningru> rm_you_: reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[08:39] <eigenlambda> nope
[08:39] <eigenlambda> didn't work
[08:39] <khaije1> dorto: i'm aware of it, but it takes some config doesn't it?
[08:39] <Jaws> ph8: Im not sure if i can run get a 32 bit firefox...  maybe ill try that good ide
 grumble
[08:39] <MukiEX> gogeta : at least not reliable ;)
[08:39] <Jaws> ph8:idea
[08:39] <MrObvious> poningru: Ok here it goes lol.
[08:39] <MukiEX> *reliably
[08:39] <poningru> nn
 what ti do now
[08:39] <eigenlambda> same thing as before
[08:39] <eigenlambda> gnome launches... then crashes
[08:39] <Xenguy> gogeta: what irc client are you running (if you don't mind me asking)
 this is why i dont trust dist upgrade
[08:39] <MrObvious> It tells me to run this command: gksu "update-manager -c" however it doesn't exist on my computer.
[08:39] <dorto> khaije1, FreeNX is not in the ubuntu repositories, you need to add a repository for it and then apt-get
[08:40] <MrObvious> paul@upstairs:~$ gksu "update-manager -c"
[08:40] <MrObvious> -bash: gksu: command not found
[08:40] <gogeta> xchat
[08:40] <eigenlambda> also: failsafe mode says something about not being able to launch the settings daemon
[08:40] <eigenlambda> and that i should look at the man page for dbus-launch
[08:40] <Xenguy> gogeta: OK, I asked becuase the nick quoting seems different from usual somehow
[08:40] <compengi> i downloaded ubuntu edgy and burned it on a cd how can i upgrade to edgy from the cd?
[08:40] <gogeta> eigenlambda that better lol
[08:40] <poningru> MrObvious:make sure you have your data backed up before you do that
[08:40] <AlanHaggai> Is there any software in Ubuntu to compress to RAR format?
[08:41] <poningru> MrObvious: you can also do gksudo
[08:41] <Ignatius> compengi: do not upgrade to somehting that's on alpha stage if you don't know what you are doing / how you do it
[08:41] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : Is there any software in Ubuntu to compress to RAR format?
[08:41] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: rar (command-line) IIRC
[08:41] <Ignatius> only trouble will cause.
[08:41] <poningru> Ignatius: it was released like 2 days ago
[08:41] <xipietotec> Ignatius: edgy isn't alpha though
[08:41] <MrObvious> poningru: I push gk(tab) and it completes it as gkrellm :|
[08:41] <poningru> did I just transported to like couple of months ago?
[08:41] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : any GUI based?
[08:41] <gogeta> eigenlambda well i dont knoe if you have a /home partation i say get a cd and just reinstall
[08:42] <MrObvious> poningru: I don't think I have a package I need installed.
[08:42] <poningru> MrObvious: thats impossible
[08:42] <compengi> Ignatius, so you're saying that i should not upgrade to edgy?
[08:42] <xipietotec> although I've heard that alot of people who've upgraded from the CD have had lots of problems
[08:42] <poningru> MrObvious: you sure you are running ubuntu? dapper?
[08:42] <gogeta> eigenlambda yea and so have you lol
[08:42] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: I don't use a gui for that function; try 'apt-cache search rar |less'
[08:42] <xipietotec> I upgraded using synaptic with no problems
[08:42] <MrObvious> poningru: I started KUbuntu and installed Ubuntu I think.
[08:43] <MrObvious> Or was that my other box?
[08:43] <MrObvious> :|
[08:43] <AlanHaggai> ok Xenguy :)
[08:43] <gogeta> eigenlambda i just reformated it installed
[08:43] <Chu> I have no way of burning cds, yet I need to use a live cd. I assume mounting it wouldn't work, correct?
[08:43] <poningru> I have to go to sleep... sorry guys
[08:43] <MrObvious> poningru: Nevertheless I'm installing gksu now via apt-get lol.
[08:43] <MrObvious> poningru: Thanks for the help. I think I'll get it eventually.
[08:43] <gogeta> eigenlambda i just dont reformat /home if you have one all your mp3s or whatever whont get lost just al the apps
[08:43] <henna> wow
[08:43] <jcvasquezt> hi all, i'm looking for some help. i'm unable to write in my external drive, it says read-only drive, and when i try to change the permissions it says: couldn't change the permissions of "drive" because it is on a read-only disk???? anyone???....thanks
[08:43] <xipietotec> Chu: It's possible to mount ISO and run them in virtualization using quemu or vmware
[08:44] <compengi> xipietotec, so what you recommend for me to do to get updraded to edgy
[08:44] <Chu> xipietotec: Jesus, that sounds messy. :'(
[08:44] <dorto> jcvasquezt, what is the file system on the external drive?
[08:44] <sanmarcos> anybody else is having problems with usplash not working in edgy?
[08:44] <xipietotec> Chu: I haven't tried it personally, but I have a guide somewhere....hold on
[08:44] <jcvasquezt> dorto, fat32
[08:44] <gogeta> eigenlambda thats why i dont trust dist-upgrade for changing version i just use a cd and kill anything from the old ver off
[08:44] <xipietotec> compengi: I personally reccomend doing it from synaptic if you want to upgrade
[08:45] <dorto> jcvasquezt, how does its entry look like in /etc/fstab?
[08:45] <Chu> xipietotec: Any information would be awesome, thanks.
[08:45] <compengi> xipietotec, how much is the size of the download?
[08:45] <YBH_1> Does anyone know how to setp postfix to use procmail when fetchmail is used in edgy 6.10? It worked fine in 6.06.
[08:45] <gogeta> i did it threw aprt and it still fryed the system
[08:45] <gogeta> apt
[08:46] <xipietotec> Chu: http://maconstuff.blogspot.com/2006/06/how-to-run-windows-xp-under-ubuntu.html It says XP, but the same should apply for ubuntu
[08:46] <dorto> Chu, QEmu is very easy to install and use, in my experience
[08:46] <gogeta> something in x just doesent get set right
[08:46] <xipietotec> compengi: Huge =)
[08:46] <compengi> xipietotec, omg
[08:46] <gogeta> eigenlambda have you tryed going out of ecovery mode init 3 and seeing if dbus is running
[08:47] <KenThomson> Can i install Ubuntu 6.10 (fresh install), in my computer that has Windows XP Pro only? through "netboot" or something else. Someone mentioned PXE. What is it? And is it safe? I have Ubuntu 6.10 ISO on my HDD. Do i need to have it to netboot? Can someone give me some links? (this is so confusing)
 netboot is not officaly supported
[08:47] <compengi> xipietotec, i have like 16k down lmao
[08:47] <timthelion> hey, can I downgrade to firefox 1.5 now that I am in edgy? my chrome does not work in 2
 use at own risk
[08:47] <timthelion> if so, how?
[08:47] <compengi> xipietotec, it will take me like a day or two
[08:48] <xipietotec> KenThomson: Yes, you will have to make new partitions and such, but it's possible to set up dual boot ubuntu/windows
[08:48] <Chu> xipietotec: Hmm, it isn't loading at all. :/
[08:48] <zoidberg> hey guys is there a Dock application for GNOME?
[08:48] <zoidberg> like MAC?
[08:48] <gogeta> yes
[08:48] <Kawaii-Panda> gnome panel
[08:48] <holycow> lol
[08:48] <gogeta> LOL
[08:48] <KenThomson> gogeta: i am ready to take risk? But where do i go to do a netboot? What are all the pre-requisites? Some sites?
[08:48] <zoidberg> how do i get it?
[08:49] <xipietotec> compengi: you could try it from the CD too, I've just heard of nothing but problems though...lol
[08:49] <zoidberg> how do i get gnome panel "apt-get install >"
[08:49] <gogeta> i dont even knoe where to find the net installer
[08:49] <zoidberg> ?
[08:49] <xipietotec> Chu: crap, that page loaded for me an hour ago
[08:49] <Kawaii-Panda> zoidberg: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/41430974/
[08:49] <Kawaii-Panda> its just a gnome panel, set not to expand
[08:49] <kestas> how do you save a session in firefox?
[08:50] <crimsun> gogeta: for i386? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[08:50] <Kawaii-Panda> firefox 2 does that automatically
[08:50] <michae1> How do I get a custom resolution to work with the nvidia-glx drivers?
[08:50] <jcvasquezt> this is the fstab, sda1 is windows, sda6 is an other partition and the external drive is conected with usb, i don't know wich one is the entry.# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[08:50] <jcvasquezt> #
[08:50] <jcvasquezt> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[08:50] <jcvasquezt> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[08:50] <jcvasquezt> /dev/sda2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[08:50] <jcvasquezt> /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[08:50] <jcvasquezt> /dev/sda6       /media/sda6     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[08:50] <jcvasquezt> /dev/sda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[08:50] <jcvasquezt> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[08:50] <numist> spammer :(
[08:50] <kestas> Kawaii-Panda: what if I have 2 windows open?
[08:50] <gogeta> lol
[08:50] <MrObvious> !pastebin
[08:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:50] <xipietotec> Kawaii-Panda: hey...is that launch bar a gdesklet?
[08:50] <henna> lol
[08:50] <Madpilot> jcvasquezt, next time, use a pastebin, or you might be kicked...
[08:50] <xipietotec> or is it an actual tool bar?
[08:51] <jcvasquezt> i'm sorry
[08:51] <xipietotec> oh, wait, I see, nevermind
[08:51] <Kawaii-Panda> xipietotec: its the normal gnome panel!
[08:51] <Chu> dorto: Honestly, I'm confused about my situation. Essentially, I need to mount the live cd to install a newer version of Ubuntu. My connection is lame, but I have the iso now. Would qemu be the right tool for this situation?
[08:51] <KenThomson> crimsun: Can i install Ubuntu 6.10 (fresh install), in my computer that has Windows XP Pro only? through "netboot" or something else. Someone mentioned PXE, what is it?
[08:51] <AdamKili> help serious error while upgrading. it says, Failed to start X server. usplash: No usable theme found for 1024x768 screen init failed. If you can help, start a private chat, cause this chanell seems kind of bogged down
[08:51] <zach> where do I find the new repo's to install edgy?
[08:51] <gogeta> gdesklets
[08:51] <crimsun> KenThomson: yes, you can. If you don't have a cd/dvd burner, you can netboot (PXE) or use a diskette to bootstrap the installer.
[08:51] <Dasnipa> zach you have to edit sources.list
[08:51] <gogeta> it has starterpanel
[08:52] <gogeta> a osx style panel
[08:52] <zach> right, but where do I find what the url's are for the repos
[08:52] <gogeta> you prettty mutch built
[08:52] <Kawaii-Panda> zach: replace dapper with edgy
[08:52] <Kawaii-Panda> in the sources.list file
[08:52] <zoidberg> so apparently i already have gnome-panel
[08:53] <zoidberg> how do i get it to appear on the desktop?
[08:53] <gogeta> lol
[08:53] <henna> lol
[08:53] <gogeta> your start menu
[08:53] <Kawaii-Panda> zoidberg: appear on the desktop?
[08:53] <gogeta> thats gnome panel
[08:53] <speano> hey ppl, just trying to install edgy, and having some troubles with the display, i've tried setting the vga mode, different resolutions and even vga 771 (or whatever it says in the help menus) any ideas?
[08:53] <gogeta> LOL!
[08:53] <zoidberg> yeah
[08:53] <speano> its a laptop
[08:53] <zoidberg> guys i mean like a GNOME dock...like the dock in MAC OS X
[08:53] <numist> yay a futurama reference nick
[08:53] <jcvasquezt> dorto, ????
[08:53] <KenThomson> crimsun: You mentioned this link for netboot (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/), which file should i download? And how should i go about it?. Do note that i am on a Windows box right now. So .gz and .tar files dont work. Moreover do i need the the simple "Ubuntu 6.10-Desktop-i386 ISO" (some 680MB) that i downloaded (it is currently on my HDD) for netboot. Could you please explain a little
[08:53] <KenThomson> thoroughly, i am new to this.
[08:53] <Ademan> is there an mplayer backend to totem yet?
[08:53] <gogeta> gdesklets
[08:53] <kestas> speano: what problems?
[08:54] <jcvasquezt> ubotu, thanks for the link
[08:54] <numist> zoidberg: I know what you mean, and I'd help you, but I dont have a linux box with a gui handy
[08:54] <xipietotec> http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot43ij0.png <---my desktop
[08:54] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell jcvasquezt about yourself
[08:54] <bidha2kbsd> hi what username and pass should i suppy during adding a printer throug cups adminstration page
[08:54] <Axidus> Does anyone know of project looking glass?
[08:54] <numist> zoidberg: theres prefs for each individual panel though, rightclock on empty space, and go to panel prefs
[08:54] <AdamKili> help serious error while upgrading. it says, Failed to start X server. usplash: No usable theme found for 1024x768 screen init failed. If you can help, start a private chat, cause this chanell seems kind of bogged down
[08:54] <xipietotec> at least, that's my desktop in gnome, my desktop in kde is different
[08:54] <numist> zoidberg: and you can set options in there to make it osxdock similar
[08:55] <Kawaii-Panda> zoidberg: or you can just use the desktop
[08:55] <speano> kestas: it looks all distorted, all on the diaganol, the ubuntu startup splash looks okay, but when it gets to the orange/brown screen it gets bad.
[08:55] <Kawaii-Panda> zoidberg: if you really want a mac os look though, you can try automatix and get gdesklets there.
[08:55] <Kawaii-Panda> http://www.getautomatix.com/
[08:56] <speano> is there a text installer??
[08:56] <Madpilot> Kawaii-Panda, please don't recommend that here...
[08:56] <dorto> compengi, i am not sure, but did you try, apt-cdrom add with edgy alternate cd, and then tried to apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[08:56] <AdamKili> help!! SERIOUS ERROR while upgrading. it says, Failed to start X server. "usplash: No usable theme found for 1024x768" "screen init failed". If you can help, private chat please cause this channel's pretty bogged down.
[08:56] <xipietotec> gdesklets is easily installed through command line....and I wouldn't reccomend automatix
[08:56] <Kawaii-Panda> hmmm... i havent checked if its in the repos yet.
[08:56] <salim> !ati
[08:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:56] <Kawaii-Panda> i didnt use it.. too buggy for my tastes
[08:56] <xipietotec> if you must use some sort of auto-installer (rather than learning it yourself) I'd reccomend easyubuntu, however it it's still use at your own risk
[08:56] <xipietotec> !easyubuntu
[08:56] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:56] <gogeta> zoidberg gdesklets has plenty of things like that
[08:57] <KenThomson> crimsun: Can you please help me with netbot? i need info like, which file do i download from that link you gave? How do i run it from a Windows box etc. If someone else is familiar about netboot, you can help me too.
[08:57] <Madpilot> Kawaii-Panda, automatix? No, and it never will be in the repos... and if it's too buggy for you, why on Earth would you recommend it here
[08:57] <Kawaii-Panda> easyubuntu doesnt yet support edgy directly though.
[08:57] <Madpilot> ?
[08:57] <gogeta> zoidberg gdesklets starterbar is sorta like a osx bar
[08:57] <henna> hoi dad
[08:57] <crimsun> KenThomson: the iso you downloaded is not useful. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[08:57] <Kawaii-Panda> Madpilot: gdesklets.
[08:57] <Madpilot> !info gdesklets
[08:57] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 466 kB, installed size 2452 kB
[08:57] <xipietotec> Kawaii-Panda: yes gdesklets is in the repos
[08:57] <Madpilot> Kawaii-Panda, ^^^
[08:57] <crimsun> KenThomson: specifically, you'll find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot more relevant.
[08:58] <salim> how do I revert my graphic card driver to the initial one (I have edgy, ATI x700 and installed driver from ati.com)
[08:58] <Kawaii-Panda> oh.
[08:58] <zach> Kawaii-Panda, thanks
[08:58] <speano> is there a way not to get the edgy startup to probe my graphics card?
[08:58] <AdamKili> SERIOUS ERROR please help!!! after upgrading to Edgy, it says, Failed to start X server. "usplash: No usable theme found for 1024x768" "screen init failed". If you can help, private chat please cause this channel's pretty bogged down.
[08:58] <speano> not probe
[08:58] <speano> i mean
[08:59] <Kawaii-Panda> zach: no problem :)
[08:59] <xipietotec> I personally wouldn't reccomend using automatic installers unless you're an OEM, who knows out to troubleshoot
[08:59] <wastrel> I accidentally dragged & dropped one of my imap folders into another imap folder in my thunderbird client and I can't seem to figure out how to remove it.  any ideas?
[08:59] <KenThomson> crimsun: Thank you, i appreciate the help
[09:00] <American-Tech> Looking for help getting sound working.
[09:01] <Axidus> HAS ANYONE HEARD OF PROJECT LOOKING GLASS?
[09:01] <sn0n> yes
[09:01] <sn0n> crappy java desktop
[09:01] <jcvasquezt> hi all, i'll appreciate some help. i'm been unable to write in my external drive (usb conected),  when i try to change the permissions it says: couldn't change the permissions of "drive" because it is on a read-only disk???? anyone???....thanks
[09:01] <sn0n> wat about it
[09:01] <compengi> DBO, you there?
[09:01] <Axidus> i need to uninstall it, can anyone help?
[09:01] <KenThomson> crimsun: Can i netboot, even if i have a stand-alone PC? i.e i am not on any kind of LAN, but a simple home user directly connected to the Internet throught PPPOE? And how do i know whether i have a "PXE booting capable BIOS"??
[09:01] <Hyperlink> .
[09:02] <Axidus> it wont load
[09:02] <Axidus> at all
[09:02] <henna> goede morgen pap
[09:02] <sn0n> anyone know what happened to Anjuta, like when it started sucking..  it cant even compile single .cpp files anymore
[09:02] <wastrel> jcvasquezt:  is your external drive NTFS?   linux can't write to ntfs
[09:02] <AdamKili> SERIOUS ERROR please help!!! after upgrading to Edgy, it says, Failed to start X server. "usplash: No usable theme found for 1024x768" "screen init failed". If you can help, private chat please cause this channel's pretty bogged down.
[09:02] <nevermind> wastrel: well, in fact, it can
[09:03] <Kawaii-Panda> jcvasquezt: have you tried to copy filkes using sudo nautilus?
[09:03] <nevermind> but it's still in beta, i wouldn't recomend it
[09:03] <crimsun> KenThomson: you need at least two PCs connected via Ethernet.
[09:03] <Axidus> Cany anyone tell me how I can uninstall project looking glass?
[09:03] <crimsun> KenThomson: if your hardware is PXE-capable, you'll note that during the boot sequence (post-POST)
[09:03] <Axidus> I can't find out how anywhere on the darn site..AAh!
[09:04] <jcvasquezt> wasterel, i think is fat32, but i'm not sure
[09:04] <KenThomson> crimsun: I only have a single PC directly connected to the internet through ADSL PPPOE. Does that mean i cant use netboot?
[09:04] <jcvasquezt> Kawaii-Panda. no i haven't, how does it work?
[09:05] <AdamKili> SERIOUS ERROR please help!!! after upgrading to Edgy, it says, Failed to start X server. "usplash: No usable theme found for 1024x768" "screen init failed". If you can help, private chat please cause this channel's pretty bogged down.
[09:05] <gilnim> mornin' guys: i have some kind of strange webcam i want to set up - anybody an idea how-to find a software to display the webcam? As far as I know it's already detected at "/dev/video0"
[09:05] <henna> morning gilnim
[09:05] <speano> having problems with the edgy grapics card probing (i think) is there any way to turn it off?
[09:06] <Kawaii-Panda> jcvasquezt: open up a terminal, type gksudo nautilus, try to find the file you want to copy to the drive, copy and paste it.
[09:06] <lnx^> hey, i too have problems with edgy
[09:06] <lnx^> my laptop hibernates just fine, but it doesn't restore
[09:06] <shinobi2> anyone fixed their wifi 801 error?
[09:06] <lnx^> ubuntu doesn't even seem to try to restore from the hibernation
[09:06] <lnx^> i have a dell inspiron 6000 laptop, upgraded from dapper to edge
[09:06] <lnx^> edgy*
[09:07] <shinobi2> edgy sucks
[09:07] <gilnim> !hibernate
[09:07] <ubotu> hibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[09:07] <Kawaii-Panda> shinobi2: how can you say that
[09:07] <drakedog> ..
[09:07] <speano> doesn't suck, just a few teething problems
[09:07] <shinobi2> Kawaii-Panda: cause, i installed 6.10 and here i am using 6.06
[09:07] <Jessi> yay
[09:08] <Jessi> halp me!
[09:08] <Kawaii-Panda> shinobi2: what dont you like about 6.10?
[09:08] <gilnim> !webcam
[09:08] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:08] <nevermind> edgy rox
[09:08] <Linux_Galore> Im on edgy and gtkpod seems to have the mv2 video transfer disables during compile, is there and optional package
[09:08] <lnx^> gilnim: what was that supposed to mean? shouldn't hibernating work off-shelf for edgy?
[09:08] <Linux_Galore> disabled*
[09:08] <AdamKili> SERIOUS ERROR please help!!! after upgrading to Edgy, it says, Failed to start X server. "usplash: No usable theme found for 1024x768" "screen init failed". I'm logged into text only mode, someone please help
[09:08] <Jessi> I am trying to update to edgy, and something is broken. :'(
[09:08] <wastrel> AdamKili:  usplash doesn't have to do with X
[09:08] <speano>  having problems with the edgy grapics card probing dring loading of the cd (i think) is there any way to turn it off?
[09:08] <pradeep> why is 'System -> Administration -> Disks' missing in edgy?
[09:08] <lnx^> gilnim: or do i need to install the 'hibernate' package and then try hibernating from the menu?
[09:08] <wastrel> AdamKili:  what happens when you type  startx
[09:09] <AlanHaggai> How to split a RAR archive?
[09:09] <gilnim> lnx^: try installing the package
[09:09] <lnx^> gilnim: and that should be it?
[09:09] <drakedog> just do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:09] <Linux_Galore> AdamKili: I had a similar problem has to run sudo apt-get update && dpkg --configure -a
[09:09] <gilnim> lnx^: i just wondered that i haven't installed that package
[09:09] <lnx^> gilnim: it should work from the gnome power manager then? or do i need to run the command 'hibernate'
[09:09] <jessi> back
[09:09] <lnx^> gilnim: yes, it was not installed
[09:09] <gilnim> lnx^: it should work from gnome
[09:10] <lnx^> let's see, thanks
[09:10] <gilnim> welcome
[09:10] <jcvasquezt> 1. (nautilus:5953): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: 2. Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. 3.
[09:10] <AlanHaggai> gilnim : How to split a RAR archive?
[09:10] <Linux_Galore> anway why does gtkpod package have the vodeo transfer disabled ??
[09:10] <Kawaii-Panda> AlanHaggai: download the rar package via synaptic :)
[09:10] <gilnim> !rar
[09:10] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:10] <Linux_Galore> anyway why does gtkpod package have the video transfer disabled ??
[09:10] <Linux_Galore> grr
[09:10] <jcvasquezt> Kawaii-Panda: i got that message
[09:11] <AlanHaggai> Kawaii-Panda : I have downloaded it and want to RAR a 1GB file by splitting it into 100 MB parts
[09:11] <KenThomson> crimsun: I only have a single PC directly connected to the internet through ADSL PPPOE. Does that mean i cant use netboot?
[09:11] <crimsun> KenThomson: more than likely, no.
[09:11] <Linux_Galore> gtkpod "should" be able top transfer video files to a 5G ipod but for some reason its been disabled by whome ever compiled it
[09:12] <crimsun> KenThomson: if you have access to someone else's cd/dvd burner, it would be suitable to create said disc
[09:12] <kleinlappies> is ubuntu good to use for a pvr?
[09:12] <AlanHaggai> Kawaii-Panda : I have downloaded it and want to RAR a 1GB file by splitting it into 100 MB parts
[09:12] <KenThomson> crimsun: ok thank you
[09:12] <Linux_Galore> kleinlappies: I would use knopmyth
[09:12] <AlanHaggai> Kawaii-Panda : How to do that?
[09:12] <salim> I want to install ATI driver and in howto the following is written: You have to make first sure that you have the right kernel running, with the right kernel headers.
[09:13] <Rothguard> eewwww edgy has no love for my laptop so far :S
[09:13] <salim> what should I do?/what does that mean?
[09:13] <Linux_Galore> kleinlappies: is a pvr specific distro
[09:13] <AdamKili> wastrel: it says: xauth: creating new authority file /home/adam/.serverauth.4799 next line: xinit: Server error.
[09:13] <American-Tech> Looking for help getting sound working on new edgy install
[09:13] <crimsun> American-Tech: cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:13] <kleinlappies> Linux_Galore, K thanks was thinking op useing that distro. do you by chance know whar are good tv cards 4 linux?
[09:13] <wastrel> AdamKili:  do you have ati or nvidia?
[09:13] <jessi> Okay, now it is giving me 404 errors when it tries to fetch upgrade files :/
[09:13] <ghostshad> hi all , i need to know that wat command to list all users ?
[09:13] <Kawaii-Panda> AlanHaggai: you can try to rar it first then split it up using a script
[09:13] <jessi> wryyy????
[09:14] <gilnim> salim: You shouldn't install a 64bit architecture driver on a i386 architecture system.
[09:14] <jessi> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/sdapper-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[09:14] <American-Tech> sound card is listed
[09:14] <jessi> but a ton of them
[09:14] <Linux_Galore> kleinlappies: look on the mythtv home page they list all the stuff that works
[09:14] <AdamKili> wastrel: nvidia
[09:14] <wastrel> ghostshad:  all users logged in or all users on the system/
[09:14] <salim> lol that's all? ok, and I knew that installing a 686-specific kernel for dapper was better, how is it for edgy?
[09:14] <kleinlappies> Linux_Galore, thanks will check
[09:14] <AlanHaggai> Kawaii-Panda : can you help me with that script?
[09:14] <salim> !686
[09:14] <wastrel> AdamKili:  you'll need to follow the nvidia howto on the wiki
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 686 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <gilnim> ghostshad: users
[09:14] <ghostshad> wastrel : all users on hte system
[09:14] <salim> !kernel
[09:14] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:14] <yangsup> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x46 why?
[09:14] <crimsun> American-Tech: and it is...?
[09:14] <henna> hoi
[09:14] <AdamKili> wastrel: linky?
[09:15] <wastrel> !nvidia
[09:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:15] <American-Tech> 0 [SB             ] : HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
[09:15] <American-Tech>                      HDA ATI SB at 0xc0000000 irq 217
[09:15] <wastrel> ghostshad:  cat /etc/passwd
[09:15] <AdamKili> wastrel: thanks
[09:15] <henna> hallo Keyseir
[09:15] <crimsun> American-Tech: now pastebin the output from ``lspci -vn && amixer''
[09:15] <Keyseir> Hey henna
[09:15] <Kawaii-Panda> AlanHaggai: sorry, im not very good at scripting. just studying linux myself :)
[09:15] <wastrel> yangsup:  you have ATI?
[09:16] <henna> Hoeveel keer heb ik u gisteren opgebeld
[09:16] <American-Tech> ok
[09:16] <yangsup> my video card is kM400,
[09:16] <wastrel> ok that's dutch?
[09:16] <AlanHaggai> ok Kawaii-Panda : thanks :)
[09:16] <henna> pap wat is kM400
[09:16] <yangsup> I downt kown why
[09:16] <wastrel> !nl  | henna
[09:16] <ubotu> henna: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[09:17] <factorx> I've got another sound problem, I am sure my sound card was detected properly and it's even unmuted but I can't play any of the example sound files or my own music although volume is turned up... what's wrong there?
[09:17] <American-Tech> what am I looking for here crimsun
[09:17] <jessi> :/
[09:17] <crimsun> American-Tech: you're to paste it for me to look at
[09:17] <henna> ik heb het niet over vers gezette koffie lief
[09:17] <crimsun> American-Tech: on http://pastebin.ca, for instance
[09:17] <wastrel> yangsup:  i don't know via, sorry
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> yangsup: type  lspci -v |grep -iA 8 VGA
[09:18] <yangsup> ok
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> yangsup: or just cut and past that into a terminal
[09:18] <henna> pap kunnen we geen spel doen via deze chat
[09:19] <DarkMageZ> i'm building a custom ubuntu edgy cd. i started my environment with ubuntu-minimal. what other packages will i need to get a barebones gnome sesson?
[09:19] <yangsup> yang@super:/usr/lib$ spci -v |grep -iA 8 VGA
[09:19] <yangsup> bash: spci: command not found
[09:19] <Kawaii-Panda> wow! cool, ubotu is multilanguage :)
[09:19] <Linux_Galore> yangsup: lspci  you missed a bit
[09:19] <Ademan> is there an mplayer backend for totem?
[09:20] <crimsun> American-Tech: when I mean http://pastebin.ca, I mean http://pastebin.ca, not "flood me in query". Thanks.
[09:20] <DarkMageZ> Ademan, nope
[09:20] <yangsup> yang@super:/usr/lib$ lspci -v |grep -iA 8 VGA
[09:20] <yangsup> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )
[09:20] <yangsup>         Subsystem: EPoX Computer Co., Ltd. Unknown device 9023
[09:20] <yangsup>         Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 201
[09:20] <yangsup>         Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] 
[09:20] <yangsup>         Memory at ec000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] 
[09:20] <yangsup>         [virtual]  Expansion ROM at ed000000 [disabled]  [size=64K] 
[09:20] <zolux> hi, everybody
[09:20] <yangsup>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[09:20] <Linux_Galore> yangsup: dont flood
[09:20] <Ademan> DarkMageZ: urgh, there used to be, i'm almost positive
[09:20] <xipietotec> I don't like ubuntu's version of zangband =\
[09:21] <wastrel> play moon-buggy instead
[09:21] <Linux_Galore> yangsup: its a S3 video chipset model VT8378   thats all we needed
[09:21] <Kawaii-Panda> anyone ever tried scourge?
[09:21] <DarkMageZ> Ademan, it was gstreamer or xine. i would like to see an mplayer backend tho
[09:21] <Kawaii-Panda> scourge.sourceforge.net
[09:21] <zolux> after an upgrade to edgy, I can't boot anymore, I'm with a hoary live CD now and gparted tell me that sda5's filesystem is unknown
[09:21] <Ademan> DarkMageZ: I could swear i used one with breezy though
[09:22] <Kawaii-Panda> its like a 3d zangband/nethack clone
[09:22] <Ademan> zolux: what happens when you try to boot?\
[09:22] <lnx^> gilnim: restoring from hibernate still doesn't work
[09:22] <xipietotec> I remember playing some graphical version of it
[09:22] <Linux_Galore> yangsup: you wont be able to do 3d with it though its a rubbish setup
[09:22] <lnx^> gilnim: it looks like ubuntu doesn't even realise that i have hibernated when i want to restore
[09:23] <gilnim> hmm
[09:23] <American-Tech> sent in private chat crimsun
[09:23] <American-Tech> sorry crimson
[09:23] <American-Tech> I did not understand soory
[09:23] <yangsup> what can I do
[09:23] <American-Tech> here is it is
[09:23] <lnx^> it broke when i upgraded to edgy
[09:23] <American-Tech> http://pastebin.ca/227474
[09:23] <gilnim> lnx^: then i can't help you
[09:23] <zolux> Ademan: waiting for /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root (don't boot on recovery either)
[09:23] <tomcatt> !ubotu mouse
[09:23] <gilnim> lnx^: search ubuntuforums.org
[09:23] <gilnim> !mouse
[09:23] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[09:23] <Ademan> zolux: wierd, so you dist-upgraded huh?
[09:23] <gilnim> !webcam
[09:23] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:24] <henna> Pap waarom geeft u mij nu geen antwoord meer
[09:24] <zolux> Ademan: apt-get update, dist-upgrade twice, check on ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <Ademan> zolux: geeze
[09:24] <Ademan> either way i'd say your upgrade is what broke your comp
[09:25] <Ademan> anyways
[09:25] <mp3guy> alot of the applets on my panel won't load any more, its keeps encountering errors, is there anyway to fix this?
[09:25] <wastrel> !nl | henna
[09:25] <ubotu> henna: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[09:25] <henna> makkelijk, nie
[09:25] <Ademan> zolux: if you're at all able, i reccomend backing up everything you love and hold dear and installing fresh
[09:25] <dre_> what version of gparted does Edgy have?
[09:25] <xipietotec> I played some rogue-like game in windows a long time ago that looked alot like this amiga port of zangband, http://www.zangband.org/common/gfx/screenshots-tk.jpg
[09:25] <gilnim> Are you ever going to do the dishes?  Or will you change your major to supporting linux users?
[09:26] <xipietotec> is there anything like it for linux?
[09:26] <screechingcat> dre_: the latest and the greastest
[09:26] <henna> i can't spek notheing else than dutch, so please will you help me with my English
[09:26] <henna> speak
[09:26] <zolux> Ademan: how can I backup a disk I can't mount?
[09:26] <gilnim> henna: can you speak German?
[09:26] <xipietotec> oops...wrong window
[09:26] <Ademan> zolux: can't you mount it from your liveCD?
[09:26] <henna> nope
[09:26] <crimsun> American-Tech: does muting 'SPDIF' make audio audible?
[09:26] <henna> can you, my dearest dad
[09:26] <zolux> Ademan: no, it says that it's already mounted
[09:27] <Ademan> ouch
[09:27] <American-Tech> Will check
[09:27] <Linux_Galore> grr @ gtkpod package being compiled with video file transfer disabled
[09:27] <screechingcat> Linux_Galore: use amarok
[09:27] <American-Tech> no such luck
[09:28] <Linux_Galore> screechingcat: I did but it doesnt do it proprerly ie it doesnt put it in the video section
[09:28] <crimsun> American-Tech: then you're waiting on the patches I submitted last week.
[09:28] <zolux> fdisk -l -> sda 1 (Linux, bootable), sda2 (extended), sda5 (LVM)
[09:28] <crimsun> American-Tech: in the meantime, you can use alsa-driver hg
[09:29] <screechingcat> Linux_Galore: there's prolly another ipod app. just search
[09:29] <AdamKili> how do i make so text isn't pushed out of sight in the terminal?
[09:29] <Linux_Galore> screechingcat: nope gtkpod is it
[09:29] <screechingcat> Linux_Galore: rhythmbox
[09:29] <Ademan> zolux: sorry, i'm not that smart haha, i dunno what to tell you
[09:29] <Ademan> zolux: have you tried explicitly unmounting it?
[09:29] <American-Tech> Not sure where to find that crimsun
[09:30] <crimsun> American-Tech: download link on alsa-project.org
[09:30] <Linux_Galore> screechingcat: vidoe file and audio have a different playlist the audio players only edit the audio playlist
[09:30] <zolux> Ademan: yes, it's unmounted
[09:30] <wastrel> AdamKili:  shift+pageup  will scroll up  shift+pgdown will go back down.   also you can "pipe" your command through  less    mycommand | less    where mycommand is osmeting that produces too much text
[09:30] <Ademan> and yet it claims its already mounted? lol
[09:31] <henna> pap heeft u al uw ontbijt gehad
[09:31] <screechingcat> Linux_Galore: get a gtkpod deb from the maker's website instead of the repos
[09:31] <AdamKili> wastrel: thanks, i havn't gotten it working yet BTW
[09:32] <American-Tech> Which one one that list crimsun Thanks for all the help
[09:32] <crimsun> American-Tech: the one that says Hg
[09:33] <wastrel> AdamKili:  there may be an easier way, but i'm not familiar enough with nvidia...
[09:33] <nemequ> is anyone else having problems with files passed as arguments to emacs-snapshot-gtk not being opened?
[09:33] <henna> pap please ask mom not to border that much with my grandmom
[09:33] <henna> sorry
[09:34] <American-Tech> Ok I will try to find it
[09:35] <AdamKili> wastrel: i'm not completly sure it is nvidia. is there a way to check? the way to check on the wiki didn't work
[09:35] <wastrel> AdamKili:  lspci | grep VGA
[09:36] <Linux_Galore> screechingcat: grrr the .deb package on the gtkpod home page has the same error
[09:36] <Chaosmik> since i installed linux i been using it more than xp
[09:36] <Chaosmik> hahaa
[09:38] <AdamKili> wastrel: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[09:39] <wastrel> oops :] 
[09:39] <wastrel> AdamKili:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:39] <Lynoure> Are there known hardware issues with edgy and HP NC8230? Like Ati X600 with the open source drivers or Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG?
[09:39] <Taillo_> j'ai tjr le probleme des dieses et du signe euro...
[09:39] <Taillo_> sous XGL
[09:40] <Linux_Galore> screechingcat: I have a feeling there is a weird bug Ive downloaded and install the latest ver of gtkpod and libgtkpod and compiled it and there is some hal bug by the looks
[09:40] <wastrel> !fr | Taillo_
[09:40] <ubotu> Taillo_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:40] <American-Tech> Are you sure its on that page crimsun I don't see it listed sir
[09:40] <Chaosmik> is it possible for linux to get a trojan or virus?
[09:40] <blind> Okay, so I recently upgraded to edgy. Everything was working fine, except beryl. I got beryl to work (sorta) but now I can't get my screen resolution above 1024x768. My xorg still has my correct refresh and sync and 1280x1024 in it, but the option just isn't there. -- should I stick to #ubuntu-xgl since it seems that's what caused it, or..?
[09:41] <henna> please no french lessons on the internet, my  dearest ,lovely dad
[09:41] <Linux_Galore> ../usr/local/bin/gtkpod: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/bin/gtkpod: undefined symbol: itdb_device_set_mountpoint
[09:42] <os2mac> using edgy... I have a broadcom nic. I have used fwcutter to get the firmware and am using wl_apsta.0 for the source of the driver but still getting access point invalid even after I run sudo iwconfig ap any
[09:42] <os2mac> any help?
[09:42] <Lynoure> blind: have you tried forcing it from the xorg configuration, possibly by removing all the other configurations if you do not use them?
[09:43] <Lynoure> !offtopic > henna
[09:43] <blind> Lynoure: all the other files in /etc/X11 ?
[09:43] <henna> okay
[09:43] <nikk> Hi...i've installed edgy, i've got a problem with the ipw2200 wireless card...i've followed this page http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136...someone can help me?
[09:44] <AdamKili> wastrel: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed. but i tried sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg and it worked!! i wonder why it was messed up in the first place?
[09:44] <Lynoure> blind: no, all the other resolutions in the xorg configuration file
[09:44] <blind> Lynoure: ohhh
[09:44] <Lynoure> blind: take a backup of it first
[09:44] <blind> Lynoure: sounds dangerous ;o
[09:44] <AlanHaggai> Linux_Galore : I need help
[09:44] <blind> lol
[09:44] <wastrel> your guess is as good as mine :] 
[09:44] <Lynoure> blind: not really, if you take a backup of it first
[09:44] <blind> yeah, I'll try that.
[09:45] <henna> yep
[09:45] <Lynoure> blind: in worst case it will not work at all then, but then you can just go back to what you had
[09:45] <AlanHaggai> wastrel : How can I join files in Windows which have been split using the Linux split command?
[09:46] <wastrel> AlanHaggai:  i'm afraid i don't know much about windows
[09:46] <AlanHaggai> ok wastrel
[09:46] <AlanHaggai> Anyone please help: How can I join files in Windows which have been split using the Linux split command?
[09:47] <Flosoft> I have got a remote dedicated server ... with Debian 32bit ... but it is a 64bit CPU ... so I want to upgrade it to Ubuntu ....
[09:47] <drhouse_> hello. for a amd athlon is better a generic kernel o a 386 one?
[09:47] <blind> AlanHaggai: I don't know if it'll work, but I know the windows copy command supports you copying multiple files into one.
[09:47] <Flosoft> can someone explain me how?
[09:47] <blind> AlanHaggai: but try ##windows for better support.
[09:47] <godmachine81> did the time change?
[09:47] <AlanHaggai> blind : ##windows? What is that?
[09:48] <wastrel> gotta get some sleep cya
[09:48] <Keyseir> We gained an hour.
[09:48] <godmachine81> jeez
[09:48] <godmachine81> thats why its only 2:48 on my pc
[09:48] <godmachine81> and all my clocks i havent set are saying 3:48
[09:48] <godmachine81> heh
[09:48] <blind> AlanHaggai: it's a channel.
[09:48] <godmachine81> did it just change at midnight?
[09:48] <AlanHaggai> ok blind :)
[09:48] <godmachine81> or how long has it been changed for?
[09:48] <henna> mr godmachine what is a kM400
[09:49] <godmachine81> what
[09:49] <sydhart> hi. does anyone know how to edit the System menu? no love in /etc/xdg/menus
[09:49] <savvas> er, beryl is an eye-candy for gnome? or i got everything mixed up?
[09:49] <godmachine81> sydhart:: you mean your gdm session menu?
[09:49] <henna> a kM400, what is that my lovely  dad
[09:49] <godmachine81> dad?
[09:50] <godmachine81> wtf
[09:50] <henna> thanks
[09:50] <godmachine81> i dont know what your talking about
[09:50] <henna> me either
[09:50] <henna> do you remmember 1958
[09:50] <godmachine81> are you talking about km400 chipset?
[09:51] <sydhart> perhaps that's it... I want to remove the Quit option (which I believe is session_dialog)
[09:51] <henna> yep
[09:51] <Lynoure> godmachine81: She is having a fictive conversation with someon, yes, it is annoying. Yes, she has been told it's offtopic
[09:51] <godmachine81> hmm
[09:51] <godmachine81> its a she!!?
[09:51] <godmachine81> lol
[09:51] <henna> lol
[09:51] <Flosoft> anyone know how to upgrade debian 32 bit to ubuntu 64bit?
[09:51] <Flosoft> without reinstalling?
[09:51] <coz_> morning all
[09:51] <Flosoft> maybe via chroot?
[09:52] <henna> pap is it possible to play checkers
[09:52] <holycow> Flosoft, you can't
[09:52] <godmachine81> Flosoft:: your wanting to take a chance?
[09:52] <drhouse_> hello. for a amd athlon(k7) is better a generic kernel o a 386 one?
[09:52] <Flosoft> godmachine81: yes
[09:52] <godmachine81> holycow:: you CAN, it wouldnt be very easy.. would be too much trouble for what its worth
[09:52] <henna> morning coz
[09:52] <holycow> actually no you can't.  too many library incompatabilities
[09:52] <Flosoft> godmachine81: I want to have a 64bit OS apt-get based.
[09:53] <godmachine81> holycow:: you can!
[09:53] <Flosoft> only problem is that my host doesn't offer an image for it
[09:53] <alassiry> Question, before ubuntu, I used to select some text, then middle-click for paste, in ubunto it's more like windows (explicit copy/paste), how do I change it?
[09:53] <sydhart> godmachine81:  I want to remove the Quit option (which I believe is session_dialog)
[09:53] <Flosoft> so I need to install it somehow
[09:53] <godmachine81> holycow:: i havent switched from 32bit to 64 bit, but i have went through all the hassels to make ubuntu debian..
[09:53] <godmachine81> would be the same diff..
[09:53] <blind> Lynoure: I removed all the other resolutions, and even rebooted, and it's still in 1024*768... wtf?
[09:53] <godmachine81> Flosoft:: know how to remove packages and reinstall them and how to force them with dpkg
[09:53] <holycow> Flosoft, stick with debianfor server
[09:54] <godmachine81> there isnt an easy way to do it
[09:54] <blind> Lynoure: also, just checked, there's still all the options for the other ones in the "screen resolution" dialog
[09:54] <holycow> ubuntus server offering is a trully bad idea
[09:54] <Flosoft> but I need a 64bit OS
[09:54] <holycow> debian has 64 bit kernels
[09:54] <holycow> upgrade
[09:54] <henna> what thf is dpkg
[09:54] <Flosoft> as I want to use the full potentioal of my Server
[09:54] <godmachine81> Flosoft:: if you know how to use dpkg, you can do it.. but just remember what you force, and what you remove.. and reinstall them at the approrpriate time
[09:54] <Lynoure> blind: it sounds like the configuration file you think it is using is not getting used...
[09:54] <Flosoft> well it is more than just the kernel no?
[09:54] <blind> Lynoure: sure does... what other ones are there? O_o
[09:55] <holycow> Flosoft, your really NOT going to see any difference from your server with 64 bit anything
[09:55] <netstar> Okay I just installed efty on my iMac G5 and have looked on forums about this but the maximum resolution I can get is 1024x768, where it should be 1440x900
[09:55] <netstar> any ideas?
[09:55] <godmachine81> henna:: dpkg is the core of the package managers you use.. synaptic, aptitude, apt-get,  whatever it may be
[09:55] <henna> vind je het niet erg om even uit beeld te gaan, want je bent toch ook blind
[09:55] <godmachine81> ugh
[09:55] <blind> henna, i don't speak that language ;o
[09:55] <godmachine81> henna you just turned me off with that mumbo jumbo crap
[09:55] <Lynoure> blind: I'm not sure...
[09:55] <holycow> Flosoft, sorry for not answering your question, i would use the debian 64 bit distro if you really really wanted to
[09:55] <noelferreira> hi people
[09:55] <Flosoft> well how ?
[09:56] <blind> netstar: fix your xorg.conf
[09:56] <noelferreira> i just isntalled 6.10
[09:56] <Flosoft> via chroot and debootstrap I was told
[09:56] <holycow> but all i'm saying is 64 bit is required by VERY VERY FEW people ... not many can really use it
[09:56] <Flosoft> but I don't know how to do that
[09:56] <noelferreira> however can't use my rt61 wireless
[09:56] <holycow> Flosoft, depends on your host
[09:56] <Flosoft> OVH
[09:56] <noelferreira> anyone can help me
[09:56] <noelferreira> ?
[09:56] <Flosoft> it is a Core2Duo Dedicated Server
[09:56] <henna> that is doesn't tell me nothing yet, my love
[09:56] <Flosoft> no serial console :S
[09:56] <Flosoft> only Netboot and Rescue systems
[09:56] <godmachine81> haha
[09:56] <godmachine81> noelferreira:: whats up
[09:56] <henna> yeah
[09:56] <henna> haa
[09:57] <holycow> Flosoft, we can't really help with isp level stuff .. installing debian is as simple as using the right iso ...
[09:57] <noelferreira> rt61 godmachine81
[09:57] <godmachine81> henna:: im surprised gnomefreak hasnt woke up and gave you the boot yet
[09:57] <alassiry> Before ubuntu, I used to select some text, then middle-click for paste, in ubuntu it's more like windows (explicit copy/paste), how do I change it?
[09:57] <noelferreira> just installed edgy 6.10
[09:57] <Lynoure> godmachine81: is it your bot? it reacts to you a lot and you were sure it is not a she
[09:57] <noelferreira> it is recognized
[09:57] <alassiry> noelferreira: congrats
[09:57] <godmachine81> lmao @ Lynoure
[09:57] <noelferreira> but i can't find my access point with iwconfig
[09:57] <holycow> Flosoft, what are you using the server for? website hosting?
[09:58] <henna> wath are you talking about, dad
[09:58] <wickedpuppy> ....
[09:58] <godmachine81> dad?
[09:58] <noelferreira> very fast this one
[09:58] <Flosoft> holycow: High Load Webscripts
[09:58] <henna> yeah
[09:58] <godmachine81> wtf do you keep calling me dad for ?
[09:58] <Flosoft> Python and C# mostly
[09:58] <holycow> what are high load webscripst?
[09:58] <noelferreira> can you help me with that godmachine81
[09:58] <noelferreira> ?
[09:58] <henna> thanks
[09:58] <Arafangion> How do I restart /just/ my touchpad?
[09:58] <Flosoft> well ... we another server P4 3GHz who is extremely slow
[09:58] <blind> I was having some issues with screen resolution.. I took out ALL the other resolutions in my xorg.conf -- didn't make a difference. It's like the computer's not even using my xorg.conf -- what other files are there? O_o
[09:58] <Arafangion> My mouse pointer has frozen.
[09:58] <godmachine81> noelferreira:: do you have a broadcom 43xx compat card?
[09:59] <Flosoft> Website loading time: 2-3 mins
[09:59] <Adriano> only 945 people in the room, amazing
[09:59] <noelferreira> rt61 driver
[09:59] <Flosoft> it's a PHP Frontend to a Pyton / C# software
[09:59] <wickedpuppy> 943....
[09:59] <noelferreira> ralinktek
[09:59] <Adriano> 943, whatever
[09:59] <sydhart> I think maybe /apps/panel/global/disabled_applets
[09:59] <henna> wtf is a 43xx compat card, my lovely dad?
[09:59] <alassiry> Adriano: the edgy effect
[09:59] <godmachine81> noelferreira:: does that card need firmware?
[09:59] <noelferreira> how can i find that godmachine81
[09:59] <noelferreira> ?
[09:59] <Adriano> I know, but I've seen more than 1400 the last days
[09:59] <henna> what is firmware,dad
[10:00] <Adriano> and definitely more than 1000
[10:00] <godmachine81> henna:: firmware is the thing im bout to put in your arse
[10:00] <henna> hahahahaha
[10:00] <noelferreira> i guess i have to do something like that in dapper drake godmachine81
[10:00] <Adriano> godmachine81: be strong, it's sunday
[10:00] <godmachine81> Adriano:: yea i should try for the other hole Adriano
[10:00] <Adriano> !firmware > henna
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firmware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <godmachine81> noelferreira:: what do you mean in dapper? thought you had edgy?
[10:01] <henna> man talking again, right
[10:01] <Gasten> What is the command where I can configure gnome? I would like to hide the partitons on my desktop.
[10:01] <Adriano> I'll have to learn about using ubotu. Was it with a |?
[10:01] <noelferreira> i have edgy
[10:01] <noelferreira> now
[10:01] <godmachine81> !bitchx > henna
[10:01] <noelferreira> amd64 godmachine81
[10:01] <henna> amen
[10:01] <Sacker> !nvidia
[10:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:02] <American-Tech> I was told to install the alsa-driver hg to get my sound to work and that it could be found here alsa-project.org I can not find the link
[10:02] <henna> nevermind, dad
[10:02] <godmachine81> noelferreira:: let me see what your card requires
[10:02] <wickedpuppy> Gasten, hide the partitions ? can explain what does it mean ?
[10:02] <bony> i have ati redon 200 card in my system and i installed fglrx drivers which got installed properly, i am able to get x but when i give the command glxinfo | grep direct it says "direct rendering: No" how to make it yes?
[10:02] <holycow> Flosoft, sounds like you guys have a fairly complicated situation.  i personally would recommend 64 bit debian if your going to use 64 bit at all but a full reinstall will be required
[10:02] <godmachine81> son.. wtf
[10:02] <AlanHaggai> blind : can you please tell me how to split files using RAR?
[10:02] <os2mac> using edgy... I have a broadcom nic. I have used fwcutter to get the firmware and am using wl_apsta.0 for the source of the driver but still getting access point invalid even after I run sudo iwconfig ap any
[10:02] <os2mac> any help?
[10:03] <Flosoft> holycow: isn't there a possibility via chroot and debootstrap?
[10:03] <Adriano> wickedpuppy: he doesn't want the partitions showing on the desktop
[10:03] <godmachine81> noelferreira:: can you do lspci
[10:03] <godmachine81> ehh
[10:03] <godmachine81> lspci |grep -i net
[10:03] <Adriano> wickedpuppy: it's a known setting, I just have to find it
[10:03] <AlanHaggai> godmachine81  : can you please tell me how to split files using RAR?
[10:03] <Flosoft> holycow: what about the Ubuntu-iso ... it has ubiquity
[10:03] <oka> hey guys, what system do you recommend, if you want a very snappy, responsive graphical enviroment.
[10:03] <Flosoft> can that be used in console mode?
[10:03] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Greetings, I have just upgraded to edgy eft, but now my kernel mismatches my nvidia driver. How do I get the new version of this driver via command-line?
[10:03] <godmachine81> AlanHaggai:: you mean span?
[10:03] <holycow> Flosoft, what do you mean console mode?
[10:03] <Tomcat_> oka: xfce
[10:04] <wickedpuppy> Adriano, i thought people wanted it ... it used to be manual mount and people complained so now all distros do auto mount
[10:04] <Gasten> wickedpuppy: you know the desktop? if you got multiple partitions (as I do) they will sit on the desktop and look ugly. I want them away.
[10:04] <holycow> what does this haveto do with anything you are asking?
[10:04] <henna>  what can you do ,with lspci my dearest lovely dad
[10:04] <holycow> Flosoft, do  you have access to your box or not?
[10:04] <blind> AlanHaggai: no, I can't. I don't know.
[10:04] <Flosoft> well that I somehow launch the iso, and the connect via SSH access and install it
[10:04] <godmachine81> henna::  you god damn troll stfu
[10:04] <Flosoft> I have root access
[10:04] <AlanHaggai> godmachine81 : I don't know if it is spanning. I just want to split a file using RAR
[10:04] <os2mac> lspci -v reports the network card as a broadcom BCM4309 how ever iwconfig nick is "broadcom 4306'
[10:04] <Flosoft> but not local access
[10:04] <Lynoure> !ops
[10:04] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[10:04] <Adriano> Gasten: open gconf-editor
[10:04] <henna> thansk again dad
[10:04] <wickedpuppy> Gasten, actually my /home partition doesn't show on desktop ... how did you get the partitions on desktop ?
[10:04] <DBO> Lynoure?
[10:04] <Andypat10> !ati
[10:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:05] <Gasten> Adriano: Thanks.
[10:05] <Lynoure> DBO: see henna
[10:05] <holycow> Flosoft, yes you can do remote installs, but mate ... your ssh'ing INTO YOUR HOST OS.  how do you plan to REPLACE your host os?
[10:05] <Flosoft> holycow: couldn't I put the image on an partition and boot from there?
[10:05] <Adriano> Gasten: go to Apps - Nautilus
[10:05] <Flosoft> and then access that via SSH?
[10:05] <Flosoft> install using ubiquity
[10:05] <Adriano> Gasten: uncheck the "Volumes visible" checkmark
[10:05] <henna> more if this stuff dady
[10:05] <Adriano> should solve it
[10:05] <godmachine81> AlanHaggai:: i dont know what you mean by splitting a file unless you mean making multiple volumes out of one file
[10:05] <Gasten> wickedpuppy: I don't have a separate /home (will get one , thou). The partitions on me second hd were there by default.
[10:05] <godmachine81> like rar, r01, r02, r03, etc
[10:05] <oka> Tomcat_, I love the idea behind linux (especially Ubuntu) and the possibility to configure etc. But I dont think even xfce is as responsive as winxp though :|
[10:05] <DBO> henna, off topic chatter needs to go elsewhere
[10:05] <DBO> or just get kicked by Seveas =P
[10:05] <AlanHaggai> godmachine81 : yes I need multiple parts of the file
[10:05] <godmachine81> thanks Seveas !
[10:05] <Adriano> henna, please stop acting like 8, we like to give help here
[10:06] <Tomcat_> oka: Maybe not. :\
[10:06] <Gasten> Ademan: Yea, I know. I just forgott the command to get there in the first place.
[10:06] <holycow> Flosoft, well you are now guessing about something very very few people have ever really done :) good luck with that ... i'm sorry i don't have any suggestions of any usefullness to you :/
[10:06] <Adriano> we do have a sense of humour, and I'm not a mod, but...
[10:06] <os2mac> godmachine81 can you get me a hand.
[10:06] <oka> I dont know if winxp takes more advantage out of the gfx.
[10:06] <Ademan> Gasten: you summoned me, beware of careless tab-completion!
[10:06] <DBO> Adriano, shes gone now
[10:06] <oka> gfx-card.
[10:06] <Lynoure> DBO: she was told about it multiple times. b
[10:06] <AlanHaggai> godmachine81 : That is the way I want it. I multiple volumes
[10:06] <godmachine81> AlanHaggai:: i dont want to sound like a prick or anything.. but im not sure how to do it right off without reading the manpage myself..
[10:06] <blind> what is the man entry for X? man x, man X, man x11, man X11, don't work. :\
[10:06] <DBO> Lynoure, ok, sorry I didnt see that
[10:06] <Gasten> Ademan: sorry...
[10:06] <Flosoft> holycow: what about debootstrap and chroot?
[10:06] <daniele_982> hello i'm italian and i use kdevelop whit Ubuntu edgy when i lunch Execute program i've this output:/bin/sh:konsole :not found!!!!
[10:06] <AlanHaggai> ok godmachine81 . No problem
[10:07] <SirKillalot> how do I use a joypad connected through the game port on my ubuntu computer
[10:07] <Ademan> Gasten: hahah i'm just kidding i don't care, i just thought someone loved me, but i was wrong :-(
[10:07] <Seveas> daniele_982, install konsole
[10:07] <daniele_982> something help me?
[10:07] <godmachine81> os2mac:: what?
[10:07] <holycow> Flosoft, google up debian remote installation ... there are some good writeups for that
[10:07] <os2mac> using edgy... I have a broadcom nic. I have used fwcutter to get the firmware and am using wl_apsta.0 for the source of the driver but still getting access point invalid even after I run sudo iwconfig ap any
[10:07] <os2mac> lspci -v reports the network card as a broadcom BCM4309 how ever iwconfig nick is "broadcom 4306'
[10:07] <Gasten> Ademan: :)
[10:07] <Adriano> daniele_982: being italian doesn't matter. The other thing is modify kdevelop to redirect its use of the console to gnome-terminal
[10:07] <holycow> Flosoft, again i've never bothered with such a think, i prefer the sanity of sitting at a box and watching the cd doohickey do its thing on raw metal :/
[10:07] <Gasten> Adriano: Yea, I know. I just forgott the command to get there in the first place.
[10:08] <Adriano> daniele_982: or are you using kubuntu?
[10:08] <Adriano> Gasten: gconf-editor?
[10:08] <daniele_982> Seveas: no I use Gnome
[10:08] <godmachine81> os2mac:: sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx  && sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper &&sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[10:08] <Gasten> Adriano: Yeah. Thanks :)
[10:08] <godmachine81> do that first
[10:08] <holycow> Flosoft, you know as an aside.... why not consider paying for ubuntu support?
[10:08] <godmachine81> and let me link you to a download
[10:08] <Seveas> daniele_982, kdevelop wants to use konsole, so install konsole or don't use kdevelop..
[10:08] <Flosoft> will they install it on my server remotely?
[10:09] <holycow> Flosoft, the numbers are on the ubuntu site, call them up and see if they will offer such a consulting service for you.
[10:09] <Lynoure> os2mac: broadcom ethernet card? At least their BCM5751M should be supported by ubuntu as is, without need for ndiswrapper
[10:09] <Emess> anyone know if its possible to run xorg 7.1.1 on dapper?
[10:09] <daniele_982> Seveas: but i use gnome konsole is for kde!It's Equal?
[10:09] <Adriano> daniele_982: you already installed kdevelop, which pulled (I'd bet) a lot of dependencies of kde in
[10:09] <Flosoft> ok
[10:09] <Seveas> daniele_982, kdevelop is for kde as well..
[10:09] <os2mac> godmachine trying to keep from doing that.... I would like to be able to use the installed driver without ndiswrapper.
[10:09] <holycow> Flosoft, no clue, but i wouldn't muck about with a production server doing something this advanced, try to find someone with experience
[10:09] <noelferreira> godmachine81:
[10:09] <noelferreira>  thank you
[10:09] <noelferreira>  i mean that i use amd64 edgy
[10:09] <noelferreira>  and when i uused dapper drake i had to do something about firmaware
[10:09] <noelferreira>  i found some tuturial and it just worked well
[10:09] <noelferreira>  but now my card is auto recognised
[10:09] <noelferreira>  i have in fact two
[10:09] <noelferreira>  wlan0 and wmaster0
[10:09] <godmachine81> os2mac:: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb        download that file to your desktop
[10:09] <AdamKili> y do i have greyed out upgrades listed in Update Manager?
[10:09] <Adriano> daniele_982: at this point installing console or configuring kdevelop properly would be about the same
[10:10] <godmachine81> hmm
[10:10] <Flosoft> holycow: I can't afford that ;)
[10:10] <godmachine81> what was that for Seveas ?
[10:10] <Seveas> godmachine81, for flooding
[10:10] <Adriano> AdamKili: tried from the console?
[10:10] <holycow> Flosoft, they you are screwed
[10:10] <Flosoft> 750 $ is way out of my limits
[10:10] <holycow> Flosoft, give up on this malarkey and just use 32 bit os
[10:10] <godmachine81> poor guy, at least he wasnt trolling man
[10:10] <holycow> if you can't afford the help then i am almost certain you don't have the expertice to actually USE 64 bit to its full potential
[10:10] <blind> I was having some issues with screen resolution.. I took out ALL the other resolutions in my xorg.conf -- didn't make a difference. It's like the computer's not even using my xorg.conf -- what other files are there? O_o
[10:11] <AdamKili> Adriano: what do u mean?
[10:11] <holycow> trust me, very few apps really need 64 bit os
[10:11] <godmachine81> os2mac:: after you get that file downloaded to your desktop do this:    sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[10:11] <Ignatius> is edgy eft's installer like dapper drake's was? you first start X and then start intalling?
[10:11] <Lynoure> blind: you did restart x after the change? (Sorry, had to check)
[10:11] <Adriano> AdamKili: open a Terminal, and execute the command  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:11] <blind> Lynoure: I even rebooted.
[10:11] <holycow> Ignatius, well neither ... live iso is one option to install, you can still install via the MUCH MORE RELIABLE d-i
[10:12] <Ignatius> nice to hear. I hated the former one.
[10:12] <Adriano> AdamKili: it will ask for a password. It's your user's password
[10:12] <Ignatius> crashed twice, yo know.
[10:12] <jiger> Everybody please help. I am unable to boot into edgy after upgrade from dapper
[10:12] <jiger> getting kernel panic
[10:12] <godmachine81> jiger:: what error you got?
[10:13] <godmachine81> jiger:: what kind of kernel panic?
[10:13] <Lynoure> holycow: d-i?
[10:13] <holycow> Ignatius, you just haveto download the alternate cd to get d-i
[10:13] <holycow> !d-i
[10:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:13] <winterweaver> hello again ^.^
[10:13] <godmachine81> jiger:: you didnt happen to convert your filesystem in dapper to something other than ext3 or ext2 did you?
[10:13] <winterweaver> !samba
[10:13] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:13] <holycow> Lynoure, debian installer, only the greatest installer ever written
[10:13] <jiger> my boot gets stuck at "Initializing /dev"
[10:13] <AdamKili> Adriano: it still has the equivalent of being greyed out. it says the following packages have been kept back: <list of packages>
[10:13] <IndyBC> The default program to open sources.list with, is "Software Sources" but it has a bug, and I want to change it to text editor. But I can't. I press on the Text Editor choice to change it, but nothing happens. The choice bullet stays on "Software Sources".
[10:13] <jiger> godmachine81: nop
[10:13] <Lynoure> holycow: I know debian installer, I'm just acronym blind
[10:14] <holycow> Lynoure, :) good enuff hehe
[10:14] <godmachine81> jiger:: that would either be something in upstart or in udev
[10:14] <jiger> godmachine81: yes but now whats the way out?
[10:14] <godmachine81> boot a livecd
[10:14] <parixa> Hi, need some help with ATI Radeon Express 200M setup on Edgy. Does anyone here got this card to work with 3D?
[10:14] <godmachine81> and reconfigure the udev and upstart packages
[10:14] <jiger> godmachine81: any then?
[10:14] <AdamKili> Adriano?
[10:15] <godmachine81> jiger:: did you let the upgrade finish completely?
[10:15] <jiger> godmachine81: I don't have edgy livecd. will dapper ones do?
[10:15] <godmachine81> jiger:: yea it would do the job
[10:15] <jiger> godmachine81: yes. also ran the two commands at the end to verify it
[10:15] <IndyBC> So, can anybody explain it, or help me?
[10:15] <godmachine81> jiger:: what two commands to verify it?
[10:15] <jiger> godmachine81: ok once I boot with dapper livecds what do I do?
[10:16] <Scorpmoon> Look what me bitching about this game yesterday caused: http://www.frozen-bubble.org/downloads/
[10:16] <Scorpmoon> Ubuntu support!
[10:16] <jiger> sudo apt-get install -f and sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:16] <godmachine81> jiger:: you need to know what device is your root partition and where its mounted with the livecd
[10:16] <godmachine81> jiger:: did you have any packages showing held back or not upgraded ?
[10:16] <os2mac> godmachine81 there was a newer version from today should I use that one?
[10:17] <godmachine81> jiger:: its very common to get like 30 or so python packages that cant be upgraded
[10:17] <jiger> godmachine81: ya some of them were but then I doubt they should crete any issues
[10:17] <godmachine81> jiger:: no the python ones wont
[10:17] <godmachine81> but if you hadnt updated udev in a long time
[10:17] <jiger> I tried safe mode and got this in the console
[10:17] <godmachine81> you might have had some cross dependency problems
[10:17] <daniele_982> Ok i've installed konsole and now kdevelop run but i've same error with X11. but i want configure kdevelop for console but the options is disabled
[10:18] <godmachine81> os2mac:: a new version of what from where?
[10:18] <alassiry> lol ... ubuntu has a package libgdiplus ....
[10:18] <os2mac> a newer version of the .deb file you linked to.
[10:18] <godmachine81> where did you see it at?
[10:18] <godmachine81> and how do you know there was a newer one?
[10:19] <godmachine81> that is the newest on the repo
[10:19] <os2mac> same directory  all the way down... I just didn't put the file on the end of the URL and it showed me the directory
[10:19] <jiger> Begin: Initializing /dev
[10:19] <jiger> /init: 76: Syntax error: 0xID=cb5f831d-0219-4c7c-be23-b954444575fb
[10:19] <jiger> kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[10:20] <jiger> godmachine81: sounds crackable?
[10:20] <godmachine81> jiger:: that looks like that stupid UUID crap they have put in edgy
[10:21] <winterweaver> T_T
[10:21] <crimsun> stupid...UUID...crap?
[10:21] <Shumy> hi
[10:21] <winterweaver> Can someone give me some assistance ??
[10:21] <godmachine81> jiger:: do you know what device your root partition is?
[10:21] <godmachine81> crimsun:: yes i said it!
[10:21] <crimsun> godmachine81: how do you propose to fix the persistence problem "properly," then?
[10:21] <winterweaver> I can't connect to by friend's Samba network
[10:21] <sulo> sg nickserv identify Kb8x9nn2
[10:21] <prower> Hello :> Anyone else having trouble with gnome-screensaver in Edgy? It seems that after a while the screensavers stop displaying graphics...after that any time you lock the screen, it's blank
[10:21] <AdamKili> sorry that was weird Edgy just forced me to log out. who was the person helping me before?
[10:21] <jiger> godmachine81: perhaps /dev/hda14 or something
[10:21] <Adriano> godmachine81: yes, I noticed it too in fstab
[10:22] <Adriano> AdamKili: it was me
[10:22] <sc0tt> sulo: i suggest you change your password now
[10:22] <sc0tt> :>
[10:22] <godmachine81> crimsun:: something other than a windows cd key would be a lil better
[10:22] <Adriano> what's the problem now?
[10:22] <crimsun> godmachine81: uh, it's not a Windows CD key
[10:22] <prower> godmachine81: I think you're getting confused on the definition of UUID ;>
[10:22] <godmachine81> uh.. dont take me so seriously
[10:22] <Adriano> godmachine81: it still works the ancient way
[10:22] <tomcatt>  /mgs ubotu mouse
[10:22] <sulo> sc0tt: done =)
[10:22] <jiger> godmachine81: fortunately I have my linux partitions mounted from windows. I can check some files if u want. but please help me out
[10:23] <godmachine81> Adriano:: yes it does still work the ancient way
[10:23] <sc0tt> =)
[10:23] <Adriano> prower: I think he's talking about its understandablyness
[10:23] <godmachine81> Adriano:: but it doesnt default to the ancient way
[10:23] <Adriano> I know
[10:23] <godmachine81> and it looks like it caused problems for jiger
[10:23] <sc0tt> i've done that tons of times too :>
[10:23] <daniele_982> nothing had a conexant modem usb adsl?
[10:23] <Adriano> I had to bring it back too, in beta2
[10:23] <winterweaver> can someone assist me with my samba network problem?
[10:23] <AdamKili> the same one before. updates are greyed out and when i did ehat u said in the terminal it said the same updates were "held back"
[10:23] <Adriano> now (fresh install) it works
[10:23] <prower> Hmm...I guess gnome-screensaver's working for everyone else then? :>
[10:23] <godmachine81> prower:: im not confused on anything..
[10:23] <Adriano> AdamKili: did it say _why_?
[10:23] <sulo> trying to install NVIDIA's drivers for my card... It seems impossible to properly shut down X in ubuntu... even though I kill all x-related processes, the driver install script still thinks x is running and won't execute. any suggestions?
[10:24] <godmachine81> i know what UUID is and i know how it is generated when the partition is created.
[10:24] <dooglus> how can I get edgy's gaim to put itself in the system tray?
[10:24] <zoidberg> hey guys
[10:24] <wickedpuppy> sulo, how did you shut down X ??
[10:24] <Kawaii-Panda> sulo:sudo pkill gdm
[10:24] <Kawaii-Panda> sudo gdm
[10:24] <sc0tt> sulo: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:24] <Kawaii-Panda> or just reboot
[10:24] <godmachine81> prower:: my point was it should use some other method to identify the drives
[10:24] <zoidberg> how can i change my firefox media streaming plugin
[10:24] <holycow> dooglus, just start it up?
[10:24] <Adriano> sulo: from a proper TTY (Control Alt F1) login and do what scott said
[10:24] <prower> godmachine81: Ahh, got it
[10:24] <sulo> wickedpuppy: 'killall -9 gdm' and then kill <Xprocess-pid>
[10:24] <zoidberg> i dont want to use the mplayer plugin...si there another plugin i can use?
[10:24] <dooglus> holycow: I tried that
[10:25] <crimsun> godmachine81: and what method do you propose? I'm all eyes.
[10:25] <sulo> sc0tt: okay... didn't know there was a script =)
[10:25] <Scorpmoon> why can't I install libsdl-perl (>=1.20-8) is not installable ?
[10:25] <sc0tt> yup :)
[10:25] <sulo> ok, I'll go try... thanks
[10:25] <sc0tt> np
[10:25] <wickedpuppy> sulo, then no more gdm running ? ps aux | grep gdm ?
[10:25] <zoidberg> anyone got any suggestions
[10:25] <Adriano> AdamKili: try repeating the command and PM me with the result
[10:25] <sulo> wickedpuppy: no...
[10:25] <sc0tt> time for breakfast
[10:25] <sulo> bon app!
[10:25] <Henry_Bean> Hello, it is normal to have 820 fps (average) using a GeForge 6200 TC, propietary drivers and X.org 7.1.1 using glxgears -printfps?
[10:25] <jiger> godmachine81: any idea what to do after I boot with live cd?
[10:25] <sc0tt> merci :>
[10:25] <godmachine81> crimsun:: im sure there could be a shorter environment variable that links to the uuid, although that wouldnt solve whatever problem has arose for jiger
[10:25] <os2mac> godmachine81: ok I ran the dpkg
[10:25] <zoidberg> i'm trying to find another media plugin for firefox that will perhaps work a lil better....i dont like mplayer plugin
[10:26] <Adriano> Henry_Bean: I don't think, lemme check
[10:26] <godmachine81> os2mac:: did you run those commands i said earlier?
[10:26] <crimsun> godmachine81: how would an environment variable solve the _boot_ problem?
[10:26] <wickedpuppy> sulo, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop .. thats normally how i do it when i install nvidia
[10:26] <Scorpmoon> Can anyone fix libsdl-perl ?
[10:26] <dooglus> holycow: oh, I found it.  turns out I had to click the 'put gaim in system tray' button.
[10:26] <DownUnder__> hehe...... I have gdm completely freezing the computer after upgrading to Edgy, and no way to get the graphical login screen..... Any idea?
[10:26] <godmachine81> crimsun:: the kernel can have arguments passed to it.. just like the whole UUID / root= part is a variable
[10:26] <jiger> godmachine81: Ahh seems fstab is f*** by edgy.
[10:26] <FallenHitokiri> i installed beryl and started beryl-manager - now my windowborders appear and disappear every second... how can I stop this?
[10:26] <os2mac> yes... the was a ubuntu2.deb and and ubuntu1.deb I used ubuntu1.deb
[10:26] <godmachine81> jiger:: nah its not fscked
[10:26] <Henry_Bean> Adriano: thanks xD
[10:27] <crimsun> godmachine81: yes, I know that. Tell me how it unwinds from the partition all the way up.
[10:27] <godmachine81> its just using those UUID's
[10:27] <holycow> dooglus, :) hehehe
[10:27] <gauden> hello
[10:27] <raw-bin> greets. I'm suffering from the popular 'upgraded-to-edgy-but-gnome-login-hangs' dilemma. I want to hand edit my session startup to remove beryl stuff. How do I do this ?
[10:27] <Adriano> Henry_Bean: I have an average of 2000 fpss with an nVidia 5200 FX, so no
[10:27] <godmachine81> crimsun:: c'mon dude just stick to the traditional way
[10:27] <godmachine81> lol
[10:27] <dooglus> holycow: strange, I had it ticked in dapper already.  edgy seems to have unticked it :(
[10:27] <jiger> godmachine81: can I replace my dapper fstab with this one?
[10:27] <holycow> yeah a lot of questions in here are just venting/brainstoriming, people find answers on their own a lot
[10:27] <godmachine81> jiger:: you see those big long Windows CD Key looking numbers?
[10:27] <jiger> yea
[10:27] <crimsun> godmachine81: where the traditional way breaks for pluggable boot devices?
[10:27] <godmachine81> thats what me and crimsun are complaining about
[10:27] <holycow> dooglus, ubuntu has a NASTY habit of being like that actually
[10:28] <holycow> one of the reasons debian people stick with debian especially for servers
[10:28] <dooglus> holycow: I only use ubuntu once every 6 months, so I'm not too worried :)
[10:28] <Henry_Bean> Adriano: do u know some place to look about this?
[10:28] <AlanHaggai> godmachine81 : how to use the split command?
[10:28] <|thunder> IS there a way to re-init fstab without a restart?
[10:28] <holycow> it has to do with the vast number of changes every 6 months
[10:28] <gauden> good day, im new using ubuntu, can anyone please help me, i wan to install a Yahoo Messenger.
[10:28] <AlanHaggai> godmachine81 : I am always getting it wrong
[10:28] <gauden> good day, im new using ubuntu, can anyone please help me, i wan to install a Yahoo Messenger.
[10:28] <dooglus> holycow: I like to check out each new release to see how it's going
[10:28] <godmachine81> crimsun: i see your point.. but it shouldnt be forced on people
[10:28] <os2mac> godmachine81: OK I ran those commands and rebooted...
[10:28] <Cyraq> i fear that i am back, gentlemen!
[10:28] <Adriano> Henry_Bean: which drivers are you using?
[10:28] <Scorpmoon> whom do you have to screw around here to get libsdl-perl fixed?
[10:28] <godmachine81> os2mac:: why did you reboot?
[10:28] <jiger> godmachine81: but why ain't others getting  the same problem?
[10:28] <alassiry> gauden: install gaim
[10:28] <os2mac> habit.
[10:28] <godmachine81> os2mac:: this isnt windows
[10:28] <Cyraq> you will be most discomforted to know that i am here to annoy you all yet again
[10:28] <crimsun> godmachine81: an upgrade is not forced. People choose to upgrade.
[10:28] <os2mac> I know...
[10:28] <godmachine81> jiger:: i dont knwo
[10:28] <Cyraq> and make your stay miserable.
[10:28] <holycow> dooglus, *nod* i will stick with dapper for a few years.  its a good desktop imho ... i stay away from server end stuff tho
[10:28] <Adriano> Henry_Bean: I'd suggest installing the latest from nvidia.com
[10:28] <AlanHaggai> godmachine81 : how to use the split command?
[10:29] <raw-bin> how do I hand edit the session startup scripts ? Where are they located ?
[10:29] <os2mac> but I still get Access Point invalid in iwconfig
[10:29] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: "man split" will tell all
[10:29] <godmachine81> crimsun:: no thats not how it works.. changing fstab is like upgrading from linux 2.6.whatever to the latest bsd kernel without knowing beforehand
[10:29] <godmachine81> i call it forced
[10:29] <Henry_Bean> Adriano: 1nvidia-glx 1.0.8774+2.6.17.5-11
[10:29] <Adriano> Cyraq: may the swift boot of the ops descend upon you with great fury, then
[10:29] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : I tried man split
[10:29] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: basic usage is "split filename"
[10:29] <|thunder> gauden; gAim supports yahoo
[10:29] <crimsun> godmachine81: since when are people forced to dist-upgrade from Dapper to Edgy?
[10:29] <Cyraq> Adriano: ROFL
[10:29] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : where do we include the size?
[10:29] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : please type an example
[10:29] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: see -b flag
[10:30] <godmachine81> crimsun:: nobody is forced.. but nobody makes you aware of lil things like that until after the fact..
[10:30] <gauden> where could i get the gaim
[10:30] <Adriano> Henry_Bean: I think the process is uninstalling those and installing the 8776 driver from nvidia.com or wait until a package is ready
[10:30] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: split -b 16k myfile.iso
[10:30] <|thunder> gauden; are you on edgy ?
[10:30] <godmachine81> crimsun:: they want to highlight gnome 2.16, tomboy, and f-spot.. but nothing about fstab
[10:30] <crimsun> godmachine81: if it doesn't work, it's a bug, plain and simple. He should file a bug so that we can fix it.
[10:30] <AlanHaggai> ok dooglus  chacking now
[10:30] <godmachine81> alright
[10:30] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: it'll make files called xaa, xab, xac, ... unless you tell it otherwise
[10:30] <godmachine81> agreed
[10:30] <Adriano> crimsun: it works, just not from upgrades. I say Bug
[10:30] <godmachine81> topic change plz
[10:31] <jiger> godmachine81: can I replace /etc/fstab file of edgy with my dapper /etc/fstab file?
[10:31] <prower> Whoops, one more question :> I know Ubuntu 6.06 was a long-term-support release...does that apply to Kubuntu as well?
[10:31] <os2mac> godmachine still getting "access point invalid" and I am not able tp change the rate.
[10:31] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: BTW, I only just started watching, so I've no idea what you're trying to do
[10:31] <crimsun> Adriano: (what I just said)
[10:31] <Scorpmoon> Has anyone succeeded in installing frozen-bubble on Ubuntu?
[10:31] <gauden> not sure, i have these installation cd version 5.04
[10:31] <godmachine81> mine worked fine but i upgraded like 2 months ago
[10:31] <Adriano> jiger: I doubt that you can do worse than how you are now, so yes
[10:31] <Adriano> jiger: try that
[10:31] <os2mac> gotmachine81 were you talking to me?
[10:31] <godmachine81> no os2mac
[10:31] <os2mac> godmachine81 sorry.
[10:31] <AdamKili> Adriano: i'm PMing u. pay attention!
[10:31] <Adriano> crimsun: I was just me-too'ing
[10:32] <jiger> Adriano: :)
[10:32] <zoidberg> can anyone help me pleas
[10:32] <godmachine81> os2mac:: run sudo network-admin
[10:32] <Adriano> AdamKili: I didn't receive any PM
[10:32] <zoidberg> i'm trying to find another media plugin for firefox that will perhaps work a lil better....i dont like mplayer plugin
[10:32] <jiger> letmme try. pray
[10:32] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : I tried the command as such, it didn't return any error
[10:32] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: I just scrolled up.  you're wanting to create a multi-part rar archive.  split isn't for that.
[10:32] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : but it did not split :(
[10:32] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: look at the directory listing.  see 'xaa' there?
[10:32] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : so what can I do?
[10:32] <AdamKili> ?? i right-clicked on ur name and did "private chat"
[10:32] <vilefridge> Hello.  I'm really in need of some assistance here :(   Awhile ago, I was getting some help upgrading from Dapper to Edgy via dist-upgrade.  Well, it didn't work and broke my RAID.  I could still get into windows though and the 'restore/safety' mode of Xubuntu.  So I was going to format one of my Windows partitions to FAT32, mount it in ubuntu, copy everything over from /home as a backup, and then re-install.  Well, whatever partitio
[10:32] <Adriano> boh
[10:33] <os2mac> godmachine81 command not found
[10:33] <crimsun> jiger: after you replace your edgy fstab with dapper's, make a copy of it as /etc/fstab.pre-uuid
[10:33] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: which package are you using to rar files up?
[10:33] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : yes saw xaa
[10:33] <deshaebig> hello
[10:33] <Adriano> /back
[10:33] <DownUnder__> Raw-bin: are you seeing the login screen? or it freezes before showing it?
[10:33] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : using rar
[10:33] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: see xab?
[10:33] <godmachine81> os2mac:: you in kubuntu or something?
[10:33] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : yes
[10:33] <crimsun> jiger: i.e., you have two copies of the same fstab (both dapper's version), /etc/fstab and /etc/fstab.pre-uuid
[10:33] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: 'split' takes the file you give it and splits it into parts xaa, xab, etc.
[10:33] <os2mac> godmachine81 yes
[10:33] <jiger> crimsum: ok
[10:33] <os2mac> Kubuntu
[10:33] <AdamKili> Adriano: try PMing me
[10:33] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : I see
[10:33] <Adriano> AdamKili: dunno, this is gaim, maybe that doesn't work with gaim
[10:33] <Adriano> ok
[10:33] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: but I very much doubt that that's how you make a multi-part .rar
[10:33] <crimsun> jiger: that will prevent further updates from attempting to convert your fstab to the UUID method
[10:33] <godmachine81> os2mac:: i dont know the kde equivalent to network-admin
[10:34] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : So for the multipart archive, what should I do?
[10:34] <jiger> crimsun: but u sure edgy will work still?
[10:34] <deshaebig> i've installed a new gtk2 engine from gnome-look.org (deb package for ubuntu) but it doesn't do anything :(.... i installed an according theme and it looks like there's no engine installed whatsoever :(
[10:34] <godmachine81> os2mac:: maybe its kwifi-manager
[10:34] <godmachine81> or something like that
[10:34] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: please wait...  searching...
[10:34] <dooglus> :)
[10:34] <della> hi... after upgrade to edgy emacs has a very ugly font... is that a bug?
[10:34] <crimsun> jiger: if it worked in dapper, it will work in edgy
[10:34] <AlanHaggai> ok dooglus : Thanks :)
[10:34] <godmachine81> os2mac:: try kwifimanager
[10:34] <os2mac> godmachine81 what are you trying to do? see if the card sees anything
[10:34] <godmachine81> sudo first
[10:34] <Scorpmoon> Day 2 of trying to install frozen-bubble on Ubuntu.. Join me tomorrow, for the sequel
[10:34] <prower> godmachine81: I know it's under the system settings icon in the main menu, but I can't remember where...it should be obvious when you see it though
[10:34] <godmachine81> os2mac:: you need to set your options on it
[10:34] <Scorpmoon> Ubuntu, linux for humans
[10:34] <holycow> Scorpmoon, lol
[10:34] <holycow> Scorpmoon, let me try
[10:34] <Scorpmoon> m'kay
[10:35] <godmachine81> lmao
[10:35] <Kawaii-Panda> Scorpmoon: linux for human beings actually.
[10:35] <Scorpmoon> Edgy, living on the edge
[10:35] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: using edgy?
[10:35] <godmachine81> linux has always been for human beings
[10:35] <AlanHaggai> yes dooglus
[10:35] <Scorpmoon> or.. wait for your maintainer to get his finger out his ass
[10:35] <Adriano> Scorpmoon: I've always found nice how that would assume the rest of the linuxes aren't for human beings
[10:35] <holycow> Scorpmoon, well works here
[10:35] <godmachine81> human interaction required
[10:35] <holycow> whats the prob?
[10:35] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: liking the orange tones?
[10:35] <Ademan> how can i make scite default to monospace?
[10:35] <holycow> let me guess you want to compile it and install it from source right?
[10:35] <os2mac> godmachine81 wifimanager sees the essid and lets me set the parameters but fails to connect
[10:35] <godmachine81> if they want the slogan to imply that it requires less user interaction it should be Linux for Computers
[10:36] <Adriano> frozen-bubble works here
[10:36] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : Edgy is nice
[10:36] <AlanHaggai> :)
[10:36] <Adriano> AdamKili: I did PM you
[10:36] <Scorpmoon> holycow, then how come I get this error: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/frozen-bubble/+bug/1292
[10:36] <jiger> crimson: there is already a .pre-uuid file
[10:36] <AdamKili> Adriano: i don't think it's working. i got ur message, and replied but i guess u didn't get it?
[10:36] <ubuntu__> did you prefer ubuntu ou kubuntu ?
[10:36] <Kawaii-Panda> godmachine81: how about linux servers. they arent as friendly
[10:36] <crimsun> jiger: overwrite it.
[10:36] <jiger> k
[10:36] <prower> ubuntu__: I'll prefer Kubuntu if the screensavers work properly :>
[10:37] <Adriano> AdamKili: indeed
[10:37] <godmachine81> Kawaii-Panda:: if ppl want friendly they should stick with windows imo
[10:37] <holycow> Scorpmoon, breezy?
[10:37] <holycow> wtf?
[10:37] <holycow> your still using that?
[10:37] <Scorpmoon> holycow, Edgy
[10:37] <jiger> crimsun: I'll reboot. fingers crossed.
[10:37] <holycow> but your repost say breezy
[10:37] <holycow> thats why
[10:37] <voltz> godmachine81, I dunno, Im new to Linux and this seems friendlier to me
[10:37] <deshaebig> can anyone tell me how to install new gtk2-engines AND get them working ?
[10:37] <Scorpmoon> holycow, libsdl-perl is obviously broken in the default repositories.. do you use some others?
[10:37] <godmachine81> it gets old dealing with people that expects everything to be configured for you right out of the box, and have a happy lil merlin bouncing around playing weird sounds
[10:37] <Adriano> AdamKili: if it's not more than 4 lines, paste it here, otherwise try to tell us why the updates are being kept back
[10:37] <Scorpmoon> holycow, but it happens in edgy aswell
[10:37] <holycow> Scorpmoon, why do your repos say breezy?
[10:38] <Scorpmoon> holycow, that's not my error exact.. but it's what I get
[10:38] <holycow> Scorpmoon, i just installed it in edgy
[10:38] <holycow> no error
[10:38] <Scorpmoon> then why can't I?
[10:38] <holycow> try another repo
[10:38] <sinizzl> can anyone tell me how to install new gtk2-engines AND get them working ?
[10:38] <Scorpmoon> holycow, wait! did you install 1.0.0 ?
[10:38] <AdamKili> Adriano: i don't think i need to paste it all. it's only "python-" stuff that's "kept back" e.g. python-adns python-crypto python-egenix-mxproxy python-egenix-mxstack, etc...
[10:38] <holycow> Scorpmoon,  ye
[10:38] <holycow> s
[10:38] <Scorpmoon> holycow, that explains it.. 2.0.0 is the latest
[10:38] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: looks like multipart volumes are created automatically if you rar up something big enough
[10:39] <Scorpmoon> holycow, read http://www.frozen-bubble.org/downloads/
[10:39] <Adriano> AdamKili: it's the "why" that would be nice to know
[10:39] <Scorpmoon> you need a new rep
[10:39] <holycow> Scorpmoon, well its not in the repos ... so how are you installing it?
[10:39] <holycow> oh wtf
[10:39] <holycow> hey dude
[10:39] <os2mac> godmachine81 did you see my post?
[10:39] <holycow> you are installing from non repo locations and you expect us to be responsible for that?
[10:39] <holycow> jesus
[10:39] <godmachine81> no
[10:39] <holycow> Scorpmoon, how about this
[10:39] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : but I want them to be at 95 MB each
[10:39] <Scorpmoon> holycow, i use edgy, i want to live on the edge
[10:39] <IndyBC> Hello. Although I have removed and purged GVim, it exists as an option to "open with" a file. How can I remove it?
[10:39] <holycow> Scorpmoon, that has nothing to do with you dummy
[10:39] <vilefridge> GRUB has stopped working.  I cannot load Ubuntu or Windows.  Can someone please help me get it going again?  I've tried 1> re-installing from desktopCD  2> super grub disk.  without luck.
[10:39] <Scorpmoon> if this was on windows, all I'd have to do is, 1) download program.exe, 2) doubleclick program.exe, 3) Have fun
[10:40] <Scorpmoon> on Ubuntu however, it's a whole other story
[10:40] <Brydenn33> anyone here familiar with kismet-qt?
[10:40] <holycow> Scorpmoon, if you are installing from non repos then you must take responsibilites for understanding what the hell you are doing
[10:40] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: what do you mean by MB?
[10:40] <tobias_> Good morning. My X server is complaining about a video driver mismatch and I am now on IRC via irssi. How can I get my UI back?
[10:40] <holycow> Scorpmoon, then go back to windows
[10:40] <holycow> jesus
[10:40] <Scorpmoon> i am on windows :
[10:40] <Scorpmoon> :)
[10:40] <Adriano> Scorpmoon: if this was windows, you'd have to a) find it on the net
[10:40] <CaTTiusha> Hi
[10:40] <Scorpmoon> nothing wrong with the net
[10:40] <Scorpmoon> thanks to google
[10:40] <Adriano> Scorpmoon: b) pray that it wasn't infected
[10:40] <holycow> Scorpmoon, good for you bro, now leave us alone
[10:40] <Scorpmoon> you think apt-get is more intuitive than google?
[10:40] <holycow> damned windows noobs
[10:40] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : Mega Byte, I meant
[10:40] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: 10^6 bytes or 2^20 bytes?
[10:40] <Adriano> c) install it, so clicking a few times "yes"
[10:41] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: 1000*1000 or 1024*1024?
[10:41] <holycow> Scorpmoon, no just windows noobs are beyond stupid and don't even bother to understand what they are doing
[10:41] <Adriano> d) maybe reboot just in case it touched a few reg keys
[10:41] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : anyway
[10:41] <godmachine81> holycow:: its obvious that guy is just here to troll
[10:41] <holycow> Scorpmoon, for windows users, its never their fault its always someone elses
[10:41] <Scorpmoon> yes, but then I suggest you change your slogan
[10:41] <Adriano> e) enjoy the game
[10:41] <|thunder> Scorpmoon; frozen bubble works great. "sudo apt-get install frozen-bubble"
[10:41] <holycow> Scorpmoon, i suggest you just fuck off
[10:41] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : it is just that I want something around that size
[10:41] <Scorpmoon> thunder, not 2.0.0
[10:41] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: so use the "-v95M" or "-v95m" flag, depending on which you want
[10:41] <Lynoure> holycow: hmmm, that's a nasty generalization
[10:41] <godmachine81> lol
[10:41] <holycow> someone ban Scorpmoon pls
[10:41] <Scorpmoon> aww
[10:41] <godmachine81> Scorpmoon:: your just too sorry to run linux..
[10:41] <Scorpmoon> do you feel the love tonight?
[10:41] <|thunder> !op
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[10:42] <godmachine81> you want to lay a guilt trip on everyone that is smarter than you
[10:42] <AdamKili> Adriano: i just got forced logged out again, i'm sorry if u posted something. i missed it
[10:42] <godmachine81> so keep using windows and stfu
[10:42] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : where should I use that flag?
[10:42] <holycow> Lynoure, its one that has unfortunately proven to be true over and over again
[10:42] <Scorpmoon> i'd like to play this game
[10:42] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: in the 'rar' command line
[10:42] <pradeep> where is 'System -> Administration -> Disks' in edgy?
[10:42] <JairunCaloth> so guys, how is the dist upgrade going overall?
[10:42] <Scorpmoon> but since it's like rocket science to install it, maybe I never will
[10:42] <xipietotec> !topic
[10:42] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[10:42] <crimsun> Windows is extremely offtopic for this channel. Please omit it from all but compatibility and installation discussion.
[10:42] <Lynoure> holycow: any you were born using linux?
[10:42] <cusco> noelferreira:
[10:42] <holycow> Lynoure, infact the entire windows virus situation although half ms fault, the other is windows users fault, but thats another topic
[10:42] <Jessi> halp meh!
[10:42] <noelferreira> diz cusco
[10:42] <Jessi> I deleted my desktop enviroment
[10:42] <Jessi> :'(
[10:42] <Adriano> AdamKili: I said, it'd be interesting to know why is it telling you that it can't install those
[10:42] <Lynoure> holycow: I'm unfortunately too old to have been born into it.
[10:42] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : can you type an example splitting with the above flag and also the store compression?
[10:42] <Scorpmoon> funny how we suddenly discuss viruses instead of useability :)
[10:43] <Scorpmoon> coz you were cornered?
[10:43] <rob> holycow: Scorpmoon please stay on topic
[10:43] <holycow> Lynoure, i was born with enough humility to understand that you must research before coming to conclusions
[10:43] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: see "man rar" - but -v is a switch, and switches go after the command (the 'a') and before the archive name
[10:43] <godmachine81> Scorpmoon:: it doesnt take rocket science, it takes getting over point and click running .exe files
[10:43] <JairunCaloth> jessi: what do you mean exactly?
[10:43] <voltz> godmachine81, and rebooting :)
[10:43] <cusco> hi ya dudes... anybody using rt61 driver for the wireless card?? seems like edgy brings it out of the box, but while it can be configured it doesn't connet to the AP
[10:43] <cusco> any idea why?
[10:43] <holycow> Scorpmoon, installing buble 2.0 is trivial you just need the right library
[10:43] <Jessi> Like, I am running everything from terminal
[10:43] <cusco> anybody using rt61 driver?
[10:43] <godmachine81> i really dont know what people complain about in linux these days
[10:43] <holycow> unfortunately your too dumb to know how to get it or compile it  your self and install it
[10:43] <Scorpmoon> very trivial.. the saga continues
[10:44] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: something like "rar -v95M -m0 porn.rar /home/alan/young-boys"
[10:44] <godmachine81> synaptic is for n00bs
[10:44] <Jessi> and alt f7 is also terminal, display is not configured right
[10:44] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : I read the man page, but since I am a newbie, I am getting the flags and the hyphens wrong :(
[10:44] <godmachine81> and it makes installing things easier than in windows
[10:44] <AdamKili> Adriano: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29024/
[10:44] <holycow> Scorpmoon, just stick with windows, we'll be much happier not listening to your nonsense
[10:44] <JairunCaloth> jessi so your xorg.config is wrong
[10:44] <khaije1> godmachine81: it doesn't cost enough
[10:44] <Adriano> Scorpmoon: you can easily do the same thing on Linux: download a .deb, doubleclick on it, insert your password and voil (if you have the right repos configured)
[10:44] <Scorpmoon> i can't play frozen-bubble on windows
[10:44] <godmachine81> it dont ask you 100 questions, where you want this where you want that whats your name
[10:44] <Jessi> okay
[10:44] <AlanHaggai> ok dooglus will try that
[10:44] <Jessi> how do I fix it?
[10:44] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : thanks :)
[10:44] <JairunCaloth> jessi: one sec
[10:44] <Jessi> k
[10:44] <rob> Scorpmoon: please discuss that in ##windows
[10:44] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: oops.  I forgot the command part.  so something like "rar a -v95M -m0 porn.rar /home/alan/young-boys"
[10:44] <Scorpmoon> rob, discuss what
[10:44] <runge> hi I am having problem with ubuntu after the upgrade, is this the right chan to ask in?
[10:45] <rob> Scorpmoon: windows related stuff
[10:45] <Lynoure> runge: sure is
[10:45] <holycow> Scorpmoon, the fact your a retard of gargantuan proportios
[10:45] <runge> good :)
[10:45] <Lynoure> !ops
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[10:45] <JairunCaloth> jessi: try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:45] <Adriano> AdamKili: try using dist-upgrade instead of upgrade
[10:45] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : thanks :)
[10:45] <Jessi> k
[10:45] <zmm> When I run openoffice in ubuntu it gives following error and does not start: application cannot be started an internal error occurred
[10:45] <godmachine81> Scorpmoon:: i suggest you just do a dpkg -i packagename.deb
[10:45] <Scorpmoon> i don't need to discuss windows, I know everything there is to know about windows :)
[10:45] <runge> I get error with python-setuptools
[10:45] <runge> its in swedish though E: python-setuptools: underprocess post-installation script gav felkod 1
[10:45] <rob> Lynoure: please I'm here already
[10:45] <godmachine81> Scorpmoon:: or maybe if you have to compile it from source, read the required libraries needed to compile it
[10:45] <Lynoure> rob: oops, sorry
[10:45] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: I've never used 'rar' - this is a rought guess based on a scan of the man page.  maybe you need 'porn', not 'porn.rar', etc - but try it on a test dir.
[10:45] <rob> :)
[10:45] <nikin> hy
[10:45] <zmm> When I run openoffice in ubuntu it gives following error and does not start: "application cannot be started an internal error occurred" can anyone help plz.
[10:45] <Chaosmik> My refresh rate is locked to 60hz on ubuntu 6.06. in xorg.conf monitor section if i change vertical refresh rate to 75hz , what do i have to change the horizontalsync to?
[10:46] <Scorpmoon> godmachine, compile source.. sounds like the right way for gamers!
[10:46] <AlanHaggai> ok dooglus :)
[10:46] <holycow> zmm, try reinstalling first
[10:46] <runge> something like : E: python-setuptools: subprocess post-installation script gave error code 1
[10:46] <AdamKili> Adriano: same thing, same packages held back, no reason
[10:46] <Terminus> Chaosmik: see your monitor's documentation for info on that.
[10:46] <godmachine81> Scorpmoon:: its as easy as typing ./configure &&make && make install
[10:47] <godmachine81> but i guess thats above your head
[10:47] <Chaosmik> ok
[10:47] <Adriano> AdamKili: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upfrade
[10:47] <Adriano> *g
[10:47] <Terminus> Chaosmik: each monitor has different Horiz and Vert Sync ranges. it's best that you set it to what's specified for your monitor.
[10:47] <prower> Hmm...well, I figured something out about the screensavers, sort of :> It seems that something's going wrong with gnome-screensaver, if you kill and restart it they work fine again
[10:47] <Scorpmoon> godmachine, i'm not gonna bother arguing :)
[10:47] <zmm> holycow, reinstall openoffice?
[10:47] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: I don't know if you noticed, but there is a better manual available in /usr/share/doc/rar/rar.txt.gz
[10:47] <AdamKili> Adriano: nothing new to report
[10:48] <godmachine81> no because your just here to troll..  your a windows user that dont have the ability to learn a new OS..
[10:48] <holycow> zmm, yeah just want to make sure we are starting with a good fresh base install
[10:48] <AlanHaggai> yes dooglus : I saw that
[10:48] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : I tried the command
[10:48] <AlanHaggai> dooglus :  rar a -v95M -m0 Desktop/CFS\ CD1.iso Desktop/test
[10:48] <Adriano> AdamKili: sorry about that, I don't know what to suggest anymore
[10:48] <Jessi> lemme reboot, thanks JairunCaloth
[10:48] <Scorpmoon> i don't want to learn my OS, i want my OS to be a transparent layer that allows me to run my _apps_
[10:48] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : ERROR: Bad archive Desktop/CFS CD1.iso
[10:49] <AdamKili> Adriano: thanks anyway, i guess i won't worry about it. what's python used for anyway?
[10:49] <holycow> !op
[10:49] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[10:49] <os2mac> godmachine81 still not working.. ssid is showing key is set wep is set to open (tried managed it didn't work either)
[10:49] <JairunCaloth> where is my syntax error? sudo rename /etc/apt/sources.list sources.list.bkup
[10:49] <rob> sigh
[10:49] <holycow> Seveas, *ping*
[10:49] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: use mv, not rename.
[10:49] <godmachine81> AlanHaggai:: try ~/Desktop/CFS\ CD1.iso
[10:49] <JairunCaloth> ok
[10:49] <prower> I also noticed that installing Edgy gave me two entries for the floppy drive in fstab ;> A proper one, and one just leading to /dev
[10:49] <AlanHaggai> ok godmachine81
[10:49] <holycow> DBO, *ping*
[10:49] <Adriano> AdamKili: a lot of stuff
[10:49] <DBO> holycow?
[10:49] <holycow> DBO, can we get a band on Scorpmoon
[10:50] <godmachine81> os2mac:: does your router have a wep key turned on?
[10:50] <holycow> he's heavily trolling  the channel
[10:50] <Scorpmoon> big band?
[10:50] <blekos> hello guys, I'm currently upgrading to 6.10
[10:50] <os2mac> yes
[10:50] <blekos> horreyy
[10:50] <ajmitch> DBO: by the look of things, holycow may be needing some time out as well
[10:50] <godmachine81> os2mac:: then you need to put the key in
[10:50] <AdamKili> Adriano: is there a way to make sure it's working?
[10:50] <os2mac> godmachine81 did that... still fails
[10:50] <American-Tech> Hey crimsun I could not find the driver you suggested
[10:50] <Scorpmoon> every windows user is a troll according to linuxers :)
[10:50] <Jfrench>  Hello, who knows a fair bit about Twinview? I need some Help, both of my monitors work, but can i set them up as two seperate desktops not one long one?
[10:50] <DBO> ajmitch, yeah taking over this, holycow has been around a while so Id rather talk to him
[10:50] <American-Tech> alsa-driver hg
[10:50] <m4steR> how can i configure keyboard language on kubuntu
[10:50] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: you missed the name of the archive it should create
[10:50] <DBO> holycow, join me in #ubuntu-ops please =)
[10:51] <Lynoure> Scorpmoon: no, they are not, but can we move on now, please?
[10:51] <Adriano> AdamKili: let's put it like this: if Edgy works, then don't worry too much
[10:51] <Scorpmoon> i'll move on when I got frozen-bubble installed on Ubuntu Edgy - linux for human beings
[10:51] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: you should specify a .rar file for it to create
[10:51] <blekos> i've got only one huge problem with Linux... I cannot sync my PDA-PHONE(not smartphone)
[10:51] <AdamKili> scorpmoon: why are we trolls? i love both OS's
[10:51] <AdamKili> Adriano: k
[10:51] <godmachine81> Scorpmoon:: your not going to get it installed while your in windows ffs
[10:51] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: rar a <flags> archive.rar stuff to store
[10:51] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : How?
[10:51] <Scorpmoon> ubuntu is on the other machine..
[10:51] <crimsun> American-Tech: scroll to the bottom of http://www.alsa-project.org/download.php
[10:52] <blekos> scorpmoon: can u solve my prob so i aint b a troll any more?
[10:52] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: the first name after the flags is the archive name
[10:52] <crimsun> American-Tech: (also, please preface the sentence with my nick and a comma or colon, else my irc client's nick highlighting doesn't trigger)
[10:52] <Lynoure> Scorpmoon: I'm not sure what you have tried yet. usually   sudo apt-get install frozen-bubble  does it
[10:52] <AlanHaggai> ok dooglus : I will try it
[10:52] <AdamKili> Scorpmoon: why are we trolls? i love both OS's. Also, what do u call Mac OS users?
[10:52] <Scorpmoon> Lynoure, http://www.frozen-bubble.org/downloads/ .. can you install that one?
[10:52] <Jessi> did not help
[10:53] <Scorpmoon> Adam, you tell me
[10:53] <Jessi> D:
[10:53] <Lynoure> Scorpmoon: it's really easier to use that line to install it on ubuntu
[10:53] <Scorpmoon> Lynoure, what line
[10:53] <Jessi> this one
[10:53] <Jessi> ------------
[10:53] <Lynoure> Scorpmoon: sudo apt-get install frozen-bubble
[10:53] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : It is working now :)
[10:53] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : Thanks for the great help :)
[10:53] <Scorpmoon> Lynoure, and then I get this kind of error: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/frozen-bubble/+bug/1292
[10:53] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: thanks for your question.
[10:53] <godmachine81> Scorpmoon:: you know how to use alien?
[10:53] <blekos> how do I remove old images that are created every time an update is issued?
[10:53] <JairunCaloth> jessi still broke?
[10:54] <AlanHaggai> :)
[10:54] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: I never made a .rar file before - but now I have :)
[10:54] <Scorpmoon> godmachine81, can you guarantee converting an RPM will work?
[10:54] <JairunCaloth> jessi: what sort of error messages are you getting?
[10:54] <Scorpmoon> godmachine81, i'm beefed up with errors allready
[10:54] <godmachine81> Scorpmoon:: no..
[10:54] <Adriano> Scorpmoon: installed and playing Frozen-bubble v2.0 following the directions on the site
[10:54] <Jessi> None
[10:54] <AdamKili> Scorpmoon: that could apply to either question i asked
[10:54] <godmachine81> but its worth the first try
[10:54] <Jessi> It wont to to a desktop enviroment, it stays in a terminal based thing.
[10:54] <Scorpmoon> Adriano, then how come my libsdl-perl is broken?
[10:54] <godmachine81> Scorpmoon:: i dont see what is so hard to compile from source
[10:54] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: I can't believe the best anyone came up with was to use 'split'!
[10:54] <Adriano> broken?
[10:55] <Jessi> yes
[10:55] <Lynoure> Scorpmoon: Are you using Breezy? If not, your sources.list is out of date
[10:55] <Scorpmoon> adriano, yes.. it says the libsdl-perl dependancy is broken, and not installable
[10:55] <Scorpmoon> i'm using Edgy
[10:55] <AdamKili> godmachine81: it's time consuming, and annoying
[10:55] <Hitch> does anybody here design web pages using java
[10:55] <Hitch> ???
[10:55] <Jessi> no
[10:55] <Adriano> have you enabled universe (and maybe multiverse) repos?
[10:55] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : how do we add more than one file in an archive?
[10:55] <Scorpmoon> Adriano, whats your version of libsdl-perl ?
[10:55] <Adriano> have you read ubuntuguide.org?
[10:56] <Lynoure> Scorpmoon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/frozen-bubble/+bug/1292 is not an error you get on edgy, please point us to the real error you get
[10:56] <Scorpmoon> Lynoure, it's as close as it gets... it says libsdl-perl is not installable
[10:56] <Hitch> does anybody here design web pages using java????
[10:56] <znortfl> Hello people. I can not get into my graphical enviroment after installing edgy eft. The X server complains about a mismatching video driver. What should I do?
[10:56] <Adriano> 1.20.3-5
[10:56] <Scorpmoon> but ill try multiverse now
[10:56] <JairunCaloth> jessi: what video driver are you useing?
[10:56] <Scorpmoon> Adriano, i get error at 1.20.8
[10:56] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: just list them all after the new archive name.  if you list any directory names, the whole directory will be added
[10:56] <Jessi> Eh, a chipset?
[10:56] <Adriano> 1.20.8 of what?
[10:56] <Lynoure> Scorpmoon: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[10:56] <Scorpmoon> libsdl-perl
[10:57] <Jessi> @-)
[10:57] <AlanHaggai> ok dooglus thanks again :)
[10:57] <Scorpmoon> Lynoure, sorry no
[10:57] <Adriano> what version is it?
[10:57] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: re. your question about how to join files together on windows, copy/b file1.rar+file2.rar+file3.rar all.rar will do it
[10:57] <Chaosmik> my monitor is too old to find horizontal/vertical refresh rates :(
[10:57] <Jessi> I wonder if there is a terminal based web browser?
[10:57] <Adriano> apt-cache show libsdl-perl
[10:57] <AlanHaggai> thanks dooglus :)
[10:58] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: the /b makes it treat the files as binary data
[10:58] <American-Tech> crimsum do I need to add http://www.selenic.com/mercurial to my repository
[10:58] <godmachine81> http://thomas.enix.org/pub/debian/packages/pool/edgy/frozen-bubble_2.0.0-1_i386.deb
[10:58] <godmachine81> http://thomas.enix.org/pub/debian/packages/pool/edgy/frozen-bubble-data_2.0.0-1_all.deb
[10:58] <JairunCaloth> where is the xorg log located?
[10:58] <Lynoure> Scorpmoon: then, sorry, I cannot help you further
[10:58] <godmachine81> whats wrong with those Scorpmoon ?
[10:58] <Jessi> I dont know :'(
[10:58] <dooglus> JairunCaloth: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:58] <JairunCaloth> thanks
[10:58] <Jessi> that works
[10:58] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : what is the speciality of binary data?
[10:59] <os2mac> godmachine81:: appears to not be getting a DHCP offer....
[10:59] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: if it's a .iso file you've split and want to rejoin on windows, it won't be a text file.  if you don't specify /b when copying, windows will try to understand it as a text file and will mess it up completely.
[10:59] <os2mac> it can see the AP. even sees the MAC but in iwconfig it still shows AP invalid.
[10:59] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : oh I see :)
[10:59] <Scorpmoon> lol its installing now
[11:00] <Scorpmoon> after enabling multiverse
[11:00] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: the /b flag basically tells windows not to try to understand the contents of the files
[11:00] <Scorpmoon> the frozen-bubble saga is coming to an end
[11:00] <dxdemetriou> anybody knows how can I purge reconfigure some hardware like the tv-card with modules? I have a problem with graphic card, and doesn't work the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:00] <Ivanowitch> Hello. How do i show the NetworkManager gui?
[11:00] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : like overriding it
[11:01] <JairunCaloth> jessi: look for a PM
[11:01] <godmachine81> Scorpmoon:: your installing 1.0?
[11:01] <Scorpmoon> godmachine81, 2.0
[11:01] <godmachine81> multiverse dont have version 2.0
[11:01] <Scorpmoon> godmachine81, no but the unofficial rep has
[11:01] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: either way, I guess using rar to split and join the files is a better approach than split and copy/b anyway.
[11:01] <Lynoure> Scorpmoon: if you are using edgy, as a last resort you can get that package from this page: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/perl/libsdl-perl
[11:02] <salim> !aiglx
[11:02] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[11:02] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: using rar you get checksumming built in, so you can be sure it has copied correctly
[11:02] <dxdemetriou> how can if I change my graphic card to make the edgy to work? the dpkg-reconfigure doesn't work. Is for unichrome onboard card
[11:02] <zordid> hi, has anybody experienced any problems with the tcsh when running ubuntu edgy. If i set the environtment LD_ASSUME_KERNEL to 2.4.1 i get this error "ld: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to run any command from the tcsh
[11:03] <godmachine81> Scorpmoon:: yea the link i just gave you
[11:03] <American-Tech> crimsum, do I need to add http://www.selenic.com/mercurial to my repository
[11:03] <godmachine81> you just needed multiverse for the deps?
[11:03] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : I see
[11:03] <crimsun> American-Tech: no. apt-get install mercurial
[11:03] <godmachine81> you mean to tell me thats the only reason you couldnt install it? and you was complaining that windows is better?
[11:03] <JairunCaloth> jessi: teminal based web browser I used is called lynx
[11:03] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : how to unrar an encrypted password-protected rar file?
[11:03] <Kawaii-Panda> windows should be better. if it wasnt, why does it cost so much?
[11:04] <Ivanowitch> hwo do i view the gui for NetworkManager?
[11:04] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: 'unrar x archive.rar' I think.  it should prompt for the password?
[11:04] <Scorpmoon> kawaii, if you claim time is money, paying the windows fee is less than a days labour
[11:04] <AlanHaggai> ok will try dooglus
[11:04] <Scorpmoon> all the time I spend fiddling with linux..
[11:05] <AlanHaggai> no dooglus it is not working
[11:05] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: what happens?
[11:05] <Brydenn33> how do i get my wireless card in "monitor mode"?
[11:05] <amankwah> i upgrade my system to edgy yesterday ,but i coundn't boot it this afternoon,what can i do?
[11:05] <Jessi> nuuuuuuuuuuu
[11:05] <godmachine81> Scorpmoon:: how much time do you spend on windows "protecting it"
[11:05] <Jessi> I hate my life, and computers
[11:06] <JairunCaloth> jessi: pm
[11:06] <Jessi> cant install stuff
[11:06] <Jessi> k
[11:06] <AlanHaggai> Cannot open aero_warz.part01.rar
[11:06] <AlanHaggai> No files to extract
[11:06] <American-Tech> crimsun, I get this error  E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:06] <American-Tech> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[11:06] <Scorpmoon> godmachine81, you'd be amazed how little... Heard of MS Defender? Norton Antivirus 6 months trial?
[11:06] <davvs> where do i add it, to add something to my run path?
[11:06] <Brydenn33> can someone please help me with my wireless issue?
[11:06] <crimsun> American-Tech: well, are you? :)
[11:06] <American-Tech> sorry I am a new
[11:06] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: you're in the wrong directory maybe?
[11:06] <American-Tech> I thought you are in root auto
[11:07] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: or typed the filename wrongly?
[11:07] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : no I am in that dir
[11:07] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: run "ls -l aero_warz.part01.rar"
[11:07] <American-Tech> Basic question how to you get to root?
[11:07] <henna_> morning
[11:07] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : oh wrong dir
[11:07] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: sure it's not "part1" instead of "part01"?
[11:07] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : sorry
[11:07] <godmachine81> Scorpmoon:: yea i have heard of them.. but still you have to always be taking precautions
[11:07] <godmachine81> you cant trust any windows app you download
[11:07] <godmachine81> and if you ever want something "cracked" then it aint like it use to be
[11:08] <Scorpmoon> godmachine81, but I can trust frozen-bubble from an unknown deb?
[11:08] <progek> Hi room, is it just me or does edgy only have two work spaces instead of 4?
[11:08] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : It is working :)
[11:08] <zordid> you can get root by typing "sudo su root" in a terminal
[11:08] <Chaosmik> whats edgy
[11:08] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : Thanks again :) A great help :)
[11:08] <American-Tech> crimsun, I thought you where in root auto. How to get to root? Sorry I am new to all this and learning as fast as I can
[11:08] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: no problem
[11:08] <Hitch] > u get root by typing su root only
[11:08] <Adriano> Scorpmoon: no
[11:08] <godmachine81> Scorpmoon:: yea whats it going to do?
[11:08] <JairunCaloth> or to run a command as root you can use sudo
[11:09] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : Else I would have gone back to my Windows system just for this
[11:09] <dooglus> Hitch] : not in ubuntu's default settings you don't
[11:09] <Adriano> Scorpmoon: you _choose_ to trust him/her
[11:09] <unixslut> hey
[11:09] <godmachine81> Scorpmoon:: i havent seen one yet that done anything like rm -rf /
[11:09] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: I expect file-roller or some other such graphical archive tool can do this kind of thing for you
[11:09] <Adriano> Scorpmoon: it seems to work, but who knows?
[11:09] <crimsun> American-Tech: sudo apt-get ...
[11:09] <JairunCaloth> jessi: open you /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:10] <Alakazamz0r> http://youtube.com/watch?v=b10DdD8B-Wg
[11:10] <AlanHaggai> ok dooglus : Will download and try them
[11:10] <Hitch] > can anybody tell me what is webserver used for running java servlets?
[11:10] <xalbertox> hi
[11:10] <xalbertox> is beryl included in edgy?
[11:10] <JairunCaloth> welcome to the chaos
[11:10] <crimsun> xalbertox: no
[11:10] <os2mac> godmachine81 I have attempted to disable the wep key on my router to see if that allowed my laptop to connect (no change) I also set the ip address by hand (no change) both connections still failed.
[11:10] <xalbertox> crimsun, ok
[11:10] <dooglus> AlanHaggai: ubuntu comes with a graphical archive manager installed.  what happens if you double-click a .rar file in the file manager?
[11:10] <crimsun> xalbertox: it's a relatively straightforward addition, however
[11:10] <zordid> can anyone verify that they get an error by typing "setenv LD_ASSUME_KERNEL 2.4.1" from a tcsh or export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 from a bash shell and then run any command e.g. "ls"
[11:10] <AlanHaggai> dooglus : it opens it
[11:11] <Sacker> os2mac: What wireless card?
[11:11] <dooglus> zordid: hardly anyone uses tcsh.  it's crap.
[11:11] <dooglus> zordid: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/
[11:11] <xalbertox> crimsun, how can I activate metacity composite? I selected it in gconf-editor and I hace compositing option enabled in xorg; and my intel 915 is alrready working but no compositing in metacity
[11:11] <xalbertox> crimsun, wy?
[11:11] <zordid> then try in bash i have the same problem there
[11:11] <dooglus> zordid: are you running a 2.4 kernel?
[11:12] <os2mac> Sacker Broadcom BCM4309 per lspci -v
[11:12] <Adriano> zordid: I do
[11:12] <znortfl> Is there any way I could reset the X settings?
[11:12] <os2mac> sacker I am running kubuntu edgy
[11:12] <Adriano> but my kernel is a 2.6
[11:12] <Adriano> so I don't wonder much about it
[11:12] <dooglus> zordid: if you tell the linker you're running a 2.4 kernel when you're not, you can expect trouble
[11:12] <zordid> im running kernel 2.6.17
[11:13] <dxdemetriou> when I try to remove the nvidia-glx-legacy, the edgy wants to remove and all drivers for x11. I want to move to the onboard but I can't, and I didn't find anything on forums :(
[11:13] <Hitch] > help
[11:13] <Hitch] > lol pls help!
[11:13] <MetaMorfoziS> hy all, is there any repo for edgy where i can get mplayer and mozilla-mplayer?
[11:13] <afd_> hi! How do I edit how the default $PATH environment is setup? I'd like that /usr/bin to have a higher precedence then /usr/local/bin
[11:13] <dooglus> I've tried doing an LD_ASSUME_OS=windowsxp, but my windows games don't work.  can anyone confirm that?
[11:13] <JairunCaloth> HItchJ: explain your problem as clearly as possible and someone may be able to help you
[11:14] <n1gke> Good morning everyone....
[11:14] <Chaosmik> im running 606 amd64, whats a terminal line to get realplayer if its available for amd64
[11:14] <Sacker> os2mac: What all have you tried so far?
[11:14] <Jessi> Does PM not work for unregistered users?
[11:14] <Hitch] > I need a java webserver!
[11:14] <rob> Nooo!
[11:14] <os2mac> fwcutter with wl_apsta.0
[11:14] <afd_> nevermind, found login.defs
[11:14] <Adriano> Hitch] : just aaask the question
[11:14] <crimsun> xalbertox: because it's not enabled at compile time.
[11:14] <American-Tech> sudu apt get
[11:14] <xalbertox> so why then it comes with the option in gconf?
[11:15] <Hitch] > Adriano, it has been long time that I am asking
[11:15] <crimsun> xalbertox: bug.
[11:15] <alecjw> HitchJ, why do you need a java web server? what's wrong with apache
[11:15] <Hitch] > apache is not running java servlets
[11:15] <Hitch] > alecjw,
[11:15] <JairunCaloth> jessi: I don't know...
[11:15] <os2mac> Sacker I have tried updating the bcm43xx firware with bcm43xx-firmware_1.3_1unbuntu1_all.deb
[11:15] <xalbertox> crimsun, air was included in dapper why not in edgy?
[11:15] <Jessi> I Pm'd you
[11:16] <os2mac> Sacker: only thing I haven't tried is ndiswrapper.... and I don't want to do that if I can help it.
[11:16] <crimsun> xalbertox: because Xorg ships with both AIGLX enabled and composite loaded.
[11:16] <JairunCaloth> are you getting mine?
[11:16] <Jessi> Yeah
[11:16] <JairunCaloth> I'm not getting yours...
[11:16] <xalbertox> crimsun, I dont understand that
[11:16] <crimsun> xalbertox: the older packages have been subsumed.
[11:16] <xalbertox> crimsun, aiglx is included in xorg?
[11:16] <crimsun> xalbertox: it's enabled by default, yes.
[11:16] <cherubiel> guys, anyidea where kbluetoothd saves pics by default?
[11:16] <os2mac> Sacker wifiassistant can see the ap's with the mac addresses.
[11:17] <xalbertox> crimsun, if i install spiftacity it should work with xorg?
[11:17] <we2by> how do you measure the perfirmance on a ubuntu server?
[11:17] <skold> hi i have a problem with beryl under gnome: beryl ignores the settings of gnome like the gtk-engine and the icontheme anyone knows how to fix this?
[11:17] <os2mac> but when I looking iwconfig it shows Access Point Invalid, it won't let me change the rate
[11:17] <Jessi> Jairun, Basically I tried to get edgy, and messed it up and now I get an exit status 1 when I try to install anything. And so I cant install anything. And I installed xubuntu and did not like it, so I uninstalled it and did not get gnome back.
[11:17] <runge> this new gaim seams to have lost lots of options on how it should look like. is there a way to get it back?
[11:17] <Adriano> Hitch] : usually one installs tomcat for that, don't they?
[11:17] <Sacker> os2mac what does iwconfig say?
[11:17] <Jessi> And this is why my machine is messed up.
[11:17] <os2mac> and reports the nickname as BCM4306 instead of BCM4309
[11:17] <Chaosmik> so realplayer not work on amd64?
[11:17] <Adriano> Hitch] : Apache also doesn't brew me espresso (yet) and I don't complain about it
[11:17] <Hitch] > Adriano,  I installed the tomcat but still nothing changed
[11:18] <xalbertox> alberto@alberto-laptop:~$ spiftacity --replace
[11:18] <Jessi> And I have files I cant replace on my computer
[11:18] <xalbertox> I did that and no composite ...
[11:18] <JairunCaloth> ahh
[11:18] <noelferreira> desisti cusco
[11:18] <Adriano> Hitch] : I don't know anymore about Tomcat, so it possibly requires a bit of config before using it
[11:18] <os2mac> sacker hang on a sec...
[11:19] <alecjw> Hitch] : apparently apache has java servelet support, but i havn't a clue what that mesn, could that be what you're looking for?
[11:19] <Hitch] > yes it is what i am looking for alecjw
[11:20] <Jessi> and apt-get install -f without any packages does not work.
[11:20] <dubis_> Hello
[11:20] <JairunCaloth> maybe you need to install the ubuntu-desktop
[11:20] <xalbertox> crimsun, so If I install beryl I can use it with xorg?
[11:21] <crimsun> xalbertox: there are Beryl instructions for Edgy.
[11:21] <Jessi> Can I do that with the live CD without losing files?
[11:21] <Jessi> I suppose I could live boot at least.
[11:21] <oka> wonder if ubuntu edgy works good on a IBMthinkpad T41
[11:21] <tuskernini> can anyone play midi in edgy?
[11:21] <crimsun> oka: seems to.
[11:21] <os2mac> sacker:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29033
[11:21] <alecjw> xalbertox: here's a good tutorial for installing beryl on edghy with an nvidia card: http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-5021-howto-beryl-aiglx-nvidia-drivers
[11:21] <tuskernini> !midi
[11:21] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[11:21] <JairunCaloth> jessi: are you on the live cd right now
[11:22] <skold> hi i have a problem with beryl under gnome: beryl ignores the settings of gnome like the gtk-engine and the icontheme
[11:22] <os2mac> sacker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29033
[11:22] <Jessi> no
[11:22] <Jessi> I have one though
[11:22] <cReature^> how i can install multimedia codecs?
[11:22] <JairunCaloth> oh ok
[11:22] <Sync> apt
[11:22] <sharyari> ehm, I'm not very used to the console, so I'd be happy if someone could me out here
[11:23] <JairunCaloth> jessi lemme double check that real quick
[11:23] <Jessi> Thanks a ton <3
[11:23] <sharyari> I had a nvidia graphics card, and it worked fine until a moment ago when it crashed
[11:23] <Chaosmik> are there any media programs that will stream .ram files?
[11:23] <sharyari> So I put an ATI card in the computer instead, but now I've got no graphics?
[11:23] <ben_underscore_> cReature^: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[11:23] <sharyari> No idea what to do :(
[11:24] <ben_underscore_> Chaosmik: mplayer, or you can install Realplayer
[11:24] <MetaMorfoziS> !mplyer
[11:24] <sharyari> anyone?
[11:24] <MetaMorfoziS> !mplayer
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplyer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[11:24] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[11:24] <ben_underscore_> Chaosmik: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html#id2542844
[11:25] <Scorpmoon> later!
[11:25] <Adriano> he coulda said "thanks", at least"
[11:25] <Adriano> ...
[11:25] <JairunCaloth> jessi sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:25] <Adriano> nevermind
[11:25] <Jessi> okay
[11:26] <Adriano> I guess I'll finish watching Psycho
[11:26] <ProN00b> haha, even slashdot flames about edgy !!!! http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/28/239258
[11:26] <ProN00b> haha, even slashdot flames about edgy !!!! http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/28/239258 (pasted twice for greater effect)
[11:26] <sharyari> can anyone help? :P
[11:26] <sharyari> I'm pretty much stuck
[11:27] <ProN00b> sharyari, how did it crash ?
[11:27] <Jessi> what is the directory for the file that you are supposed to change all the sdapper to edgy when upgrading?
[11:27] <Jessi> like, source.list or something
[11:27] <ProN00b> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:27] <ProN00b> Jessi, its a file
[11:27] <Jessi> yeah
[11:27] <sharyari> ProN00b: the screen went blue, and the consoles got bluestiped :P
[11:28] <ProN00b> sharyari, you been using the nvidia driver ?
[11:28] <sharyari> I can actually still start and run linux with it, but it looks like shit
[11:28] <sharyari> yea
[11:29] <ProN00b> sharyari, sounds to me like your hardware is fried, did you overclock it or something ?
[11:29] <sharyari> nopes
[11:29] <ProN00b> sharyari, try booting windows for once to see if the problem exists there
[11:29] <mistform> lol, ProN00b your name says pron
[11:29] <sharyari> But that's not really the problem, I just want the ATI card to work :P
[11:29] <sharyari> don't use windows :P
[11:30] <ProN00b> mistform, my name says alot of things, people tell me what it means to them ==> i know how those people think
[11:30] <boink> so .. is upgrading to edge from dapper a nightmare?
[11:30] <mistform> lol, exactly ;)
[11:30] <ProN00b> sharyari, didn't you say you had nvidia ?
[11:30] <sharyari> yea
[11:30] <Jessi> what is the command for GEedit? :/
[11:30] <xalbertox> crimsun, but I have intel 915, and I found instructions for beryl with XGL
[11:31] <ProN00b> Jessi, gedit
[11:31] <Jessi> okay
[11:31] <xalbertox> and intel 915 works ok with aiglx
[11:31] <Jessi> I kept trying GEedit
[11:31] <ProN00b> boink, it worked for me, but i reinstalled anyway, because i thought my fonsts were fucked up because they were differently
[11:31] <terrox> whats the easiest way to install nvidia drivers for a fx5200 on Edgy? everything just gives me bad results
[11:31] <crimsun> xalbertox: it also works fine with Xgl.
[11:31] <os2mac> Sacker did you see my replies?
[11:31] <xalbertox> 915 iwth xgl?
[11:31] <ProN00b> boink, but even the respectable trollbaiter slashdot has an article about how upgrading sucks
[11:31] <noelferreira> hi people
[11:31] <crimsun> xalbertox: yes, just very, very slowly.
[11:31] <Andypat10> hello everyone
[11:31] <xalbertox> I dont want slow...
[11:31] <xalbertox> :P
[11:32] <ProN00b> terrox, apt-get install nvidia-glx and change nv to nvidia in xorg.conf
[11:32] <noelferreira> anyone can help me with the rt61 wireless driver with edgy amd64?
[11:32] <sharyari> :P
[11:32] <terrox> Pro: do I need to log in as root or anything?
[11:32] <sharyari> almost a 1000 ubuntu users all using nvidia :P
[11:32] <ProN00b> terrox, prepend sudo to the command
[11:32] <Sacker> os2mac Reading now.
[11:33] <oka> anyone has flash working in Opera 9.02
[11:33] <JairunCaloth> jessi: gedit dosn't work in command line mode
[11:33] <terrox> Pro: I installed glx and did the sudo config command but at boot it throws up an error and X wont start
[11:33] <ProN00b> sharyari, you asked about nvidia... you are disturbing, go away
[11:33] <sharyari> :P I didn't ask about nvidia :P
[11:33] <ProN00b> terrox, i heard about that config thing fucking it up
[11:33] <Jessi> I just noticed that, Jairun
[11:33] <terrox> Pro: But I installed it through synaptic or add/remove :-/ is it different the console way?
[11:33] <ompaul> !language
[11:33] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:33] <ProN00b> terrox, well, can you fix that error ?
[11:33] <sharyari> I asked about ATI :P nvidia never gives me any problems
[11:34] <JairunCaloth> try vi
[11:34] <ProN00b> terrox, no, installing the ubuntu-glx is the same everywhere
[11:34] <American-Tech> crimsun, I had to reset my root password, can you give that command agian to install mercurial
[11:34] <Jessi> If I am fixing things in nano and the format with the lines get messed up, does it mess other stuff up
[11:34] <alecjw> noelferreira: what problem are you having and what have you tried doing to fix it?
[11:34] <crimsun> American-Tech: apt-get install mercurial
[11:34] <ProN00b> "<sharyari> I had a nvidia graphics card, and it worked fine until a moment ago when it crashed"
[11:34] <JairunCaloth> jessi use vi or annother command line editor... they are confiusing as hell at first though
[11:34] <Andypat10> can anyone help me with installing a HP PSC 1400 printer that is shared on a windows machine
[11:34] <noelferreira> alecjw:
[11:34] <ProN00b> terrox, just the sudo configure something is not cool
[11:34] <DaGame> Excuse me, why do my partitions in my partition table all start and end on the same Head,Sect,Cyl: 254,63,1023 (With the exception of my first's start which is at 1,1,0)?
[11:34] <noelferreira> the driver is found
[11:34] <terrox> i dont think I can fix it, I had this working on 6.01 but 6.06 and 6.10 wont let me do it
[11:34] <Keyseir> Any VMware users here?
[11:34] <JairunCaloth> jessi: why do you need to change your sources.list again?
[11:34] <Jessi> forsay I have a line of stuff that gets into the next line of stuff, but pushes it down. will it kill me.
[11:34] <noelferreira> i can scan my essid
[11:35] <ProN00b> terrox, can you get your old xorg.conf back ?
[11:35] <Jessi> I changed all the sdrappers to edgys
[11:35] <noelferreira> but i can't get ip
[11:35] <terrox> yeah I did
[11:35] <alecjw> but then you can't connect, noelferreira?
[11:35] <JairunCaloth> jessi: did you already dist-upgrade?
[11:35] <noelferreira> i can't alecjw
[11:35] <terrox> so its better to just do the config manually rather than the sudo config command they recommend?
[11:35] <noelferreira> lok here alecjw
[11:35] <noelferreira> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/58117
[11:35] <Alien> Hello
[11:35] <Keyseir> VMware anyone?
[11:35] <alecjw> http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm
[11:35] <ProN00b> terrox, well, then try only changing "nv" to "nvidia" there to activate the driver, i heard that the sudo config thing makes problems, and i always did it that way
[11:35] <Alien> i have problems with samba3+ldap
[11:35] <noelferreira> i guess it is my problem alecjw
[11:36] <Alien> in ubuntu-server 6.06
[11:36] <Jessi> Jairun, I thought I did
[11:36] <Alien> somebody can help me?\
[11:36] <American-Tech> crimsun, says it can not find the package was there a specific place to download the file mercurial-o.9.1.tar.gz
[11:36] <alecjw> noelferreira: they distribute open source drivers: http://www.ralinktech.com/drivers/Linux/RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0.tar.gz
[11:36] <JairunCaloth> jessi: then you need to leave them as edgy
[11:36] <terrox> pro: okay I'll try that. can't understand why some things never get fixed
[11:36] <alecjw> i used to have one of those caqrds, but i couldn't get the drivers to work though ;(
[11:36] <Jessi> I am using sdrapper though
[11:37] <DaGame> Can some people please PM me their partition table? "sudo fdisk /dev/hda" then 'x' and 'p'?
[11:37] <Alien> The problem is my samba and ldap servers are running and ready
[11:37] <lupine_85> alecjw: nobody - literally nobody ;) - uses the 'base' RT61 driver released by RAlink
[11:37] <Jessi> I am influanced to think that is why it wont let me install things
[11:37] <JairunCaloth> jessi: are you sure? how can you be using dapper if you did dist-upgrade
[11:37] <Alien> but i can't add anygroup with ldap-account-manager
[11:37] <crimsun> American-Tech: make sure the universe component is enabled
[11:37] <vilefridge> What emergency tools are available to read files on a drive that no longer has GRUB, partitions aren't listed in Gparted?
[11:37] <Andypat10> can anyone help me with installing a HP PSC 1400 printer that is shared on a windows machine to which this Ubuntu 6.10 comp is networked to
[11:37] <Alien> because he say: no Samba3 Domain is created
[11:37] <lupine_85> edgy comes with the rt2x00 driver for them ( http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.net )
[11:37] <dixie> hi guyis
[11:37] <noelferreira> alecjw: i have to manual compile ? why if my distro auto recognise the driver and i can find my essic with iwlist?
[11:37] <ProN00b> terrox, nvidias fault
[11:37] <alecjw> lupine_85: whay's that, whats wrong with those drivers?
[11:37] <lupine_85> or maybe .com -  forget
[11:38] <abbca> anybody know the mening of "mecenalia"? or any idea of what is?
[11:38] <noelferreira> alecjw: i only can't get ip
[11:38] <Alien> but the samba domain is already create
[11:38] <lupine_85> alecjw: they work - ish - but edgy has the better driver already included and - obviously - working
[11:38] <Jessi> Jairun, I tried it and it messed up half way through
[11:38] <terrox> pro: ya but no community easy install script that can detect these problems up front?
[11:38] <JairunCaloth> jessi: ahhh
[11:38] <lupine_85> noelferreira: can you see the access point with iwlist wlan0 scan ?
[11:38] <Jessi> gave me a 404 in my repositories
[11:38] <Alien> Somebody there llisen??????????
[11:38] <noelferreira> lupine_85: yes i se
[11:38] <ProN00b> terrox, please highlight me with my full name
[11:39] <Alien> somebody can help with that please
[11:39] <JairunCaloth> jessi: try running dist-upgrade again
[11:39] <alecjw> lupine_85: DAMN! i thou8ght it was never going to be supported and bought a new wifi card..
[11:39] <Alien> ldap+samba3
[11:39] <Alien> ????
[11:39] <ProN00b> terrox, well the serious people do not care because it isn't oficially supported because its not open source
[11:39] <lupine_85> noelferreira:  OK, it lists the MAC address - so run "sudo iwconfig wlan0 ap <MAC ADDRESS>" - you get the mac address from the scan
[11:39] <timhaughton> I have 2 200 gig external USB drives attached to my Edgy server. Can I create a striped (RAID 0) volume now? Or does that have to be done a fdisk time?
[11:39] <lupine_85> do you have any encryption/etc?
[11:39] <Andypat10> can anyone help me with installing a HP PSC 1400 printer that is shared on a windows machine to which this Ubuntu 6.10 comp is networked to?
[11:40] <noelferreira> i don't have enccrypt lupine_85
[11:40] <lupine_85> ok
[11:40] <lupine_85> next try running "sudo dhclient wlan0"
 explain me better please
[11:40] <lupine_85> assuming you're using DHCP of course ;)
[11:40] <abbca> anybody know the mening of "mecenalia"? or any idea of what is?
 maybe i can help u
[11:40] <Rookie_> !ati
[11:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:40] <Andypat10> ok
[11:41] <terrox> ProNGGb, thats a little annoying when Ubuntu is being promoted the way it is.
[11:41] <timhaughton> !RAID
[11:41] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:41] <noelferreira> lupine_85:
[11:41] <lupine_85> noelferreira: you could get them working in Dapper as well, with very little effort
[11:41] <noelferreira> it reslved my problem
[11:41] <noelferreira> what was the problem lupine_85
[11:41] <lupine_85> cool, so you have Internet now?
[11:41] <noelferreira> noe i got the ip
[11:41] <lupine_85> the drivers aren't really ready for prime-time ;)
[11:41] <Andypat10> welll i have a hp printer hooked up to a windows xp comp that i want to use to print i have this comp and the comp with the printer bot hooked up to the network
[11:41] <lupine_85> so you have to work with them a bit
[11:42] <noelferreira> how can i get it working at startup?
 then....
[11:42] <Andypat10> i can even go as far as accessing their files i just need to kno how to set up that printer for use
[11:42] <lupine_85> you can add the line "wireless-ap <MAC ADDRESS>" below the line "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:42] <znortfl> Come on people, my last hope: neither the official nor the nvidia-glx driver works with my X server. What should I do? (I am running edgy)
 u need to configure ur cups service in our Ubuntu Machine...
[11:43] <Andypat10> ok and how do i do that
[11:43] <lupine_85> znortfl: does the "nv" driver work?
[11:43] <znortfl> lupine_85, moment
but if the printer is plug in to a Windows BOX then maybe u need to setup winbind too
[11:44] <alecjw> znortfl: there are beta drivers which might work
[11:44] <Jessi> that did not help
 then the best option u have is pluging this printer in to a LinuxBox and start a samba basic configuration with Cups support...
 i mean share printer...
[11:45] <znortfl> lupine, when I tell X to use NV as driver, I start X and then I get a screen with green lines all over the place and white lines blinking on the bottom of the screen
[11:45] <jiger> godmachine81: thanks. I am now up with edgy kubuntu :)
[11:45] <alecjw> znortfl: add the repo: deb http://amaranth.selfip.com edgy lrm and then install nvidia-glx
[11:45] <znortfl> looks like a lot of bollocks to me
[11:45] <Andypat10> well i think i might kno what to do in gnome
[11:45] <znortfl> okay alecjw will do
[11:45] <Jessi> what is the apt-get for lynx?
[11:46] <alecjw> znortfl: you are using edgy, aren't you?
[11:46] <alecjw> Jessi: sudo aptitude install lynx
[11:46] <Andypat10> hold on alien
[11:46] <Alien> please somebody out there can help me with samba+ldap???? (1371 users)
[11:46] <Jessi> thanks
[11:46] <Alien> PLEASEEEEEEEEE
[11:46] <Alien> ??????
[11:46] <jiger> can anyone confirm that what default kernel does kubuntu edgy come with?
[11:47] <alecjw> Alien: what do you need help with
[11:47] <znortfl> Yep alecjw
[11:47] <Alien> I have an Ubuntu-Server(only console) with LDAP+SAMBA3
[11:47] <Jessi> It says not found :/
 LDAP and Samba3 are running very good
 i can go to add printer select network printer and select windows printer and find my printer on the network and find the driver for it but i click on install driver then idk where to put it
[11:48] <alecjw> and what do you need help doing, znortfl
[11:48] <dbmonk74> could someone point me in the right direction? I've been scouring the forums but not finding what I need - which is to figure out how to install video drivers
 the problem is if i try to made a group with ldap-account-manager i get this:
[11:48] <lupine_85> !video
[11:48] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[11:48] <alecjw> Jessi: i think it might be in the universe repos: have a look
[11:48] <lupine_85> bah
 No Samba3 Domain defined
[11:48] <znortfl> alecjw, apt-get tells me that nvidia-glx is the newest version
[11:48] <lupine_85> dbmonk74: which card?
[11:48] <Jessi> Okay
[11:48] <lupine_85> don't forget to apt-get update
 then i check the tree structure and i seee
[11:49] <Jessi> updating now
[11:49] <alecjw> Alien: sorry, i can't help you
[11:49] <dbmonk74> lupine_85: intel integrated - 82625 i think... i will have to double check. tired
[11:49] <alecjw> don't know what that means
 the fuck... samba domain into dc=example,dc=com
[11:49] <Jessi> alot of 404 errors
[11:49] <alecjw> znortfl: have you sudo aptitude update'ed?
 what the hell... some body else out thereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:50] <savvas> what's the default gnome window manager?
[11:50] <Alien> LDAP+samba3
[11:50] <Alien> ????????
[11:50] <znortfl> alecjw, that's the point, I cant come into X
 did u catch my most recent post
[11:50] <lupine_85> savvas: metacity

 i can go to add printer select network printer and select windows printer and find my printer on the network and find the driver for it but i click on install driver then idk where to put it...
[11:51] <alecjw> znortfl: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
 idk where to put it?????????????
[11:51] <Alien> what is this?????
[11:52] <alecjw> you can do that in the commandline, znortfl
[11:52] <savvas> finally!! :) thanks lupine_85, i installed beryl and it had some problems heh
[11:52] <FRET> good morning
[11:52] <Jessi> Jairun, did you figure out of a live CD boot will harm my files?
[11:52] <Andypat10> srry im kinda new to linux
[11:52] <highneko> What's the control key for whitespace using irc?
[11:52] <terrox> Pro: how do I check if it worked?
 wait a minute
[11:52] <Jessi> highneko, alt f4
[11:52] <noelferreira> many thanks lupine_85
 ok
[11:53] <JairunCaloth> jessi: live cd dosn't touch anything
[11:53] <noelferreira> it is working nicely
[11:53] <highneko> Jessi: Thank you
[11:53] <JairunCaloth> jessi: you could run a live cd on a system without any HDD's
[11:53] <highneko> highneko: Nvm, damn you.
[11:53] <Jessi> Jairunm Can I fix my system on a live CD boot?
[11:53] <highneko> Damn wrong name. What's the control key for whitespace using irc?
 i write to ur pv..
[11:54] <znortfl> alecjw, could you tell me again what to do from start? I am losing track of all the commands...
 ?
i write to u a private mensage
[11:54] <alecjw> ok, znortfl, do the commmand sudo nano /etc/apt/sources/list
[11:54] <Andypat10> ok
[11:54] <Jessi> I think I will deal with this tomorrow.
[11:54] <Jessi> Thanks a ton for all the help you have given thus far.
[11:55] <MrGreen> does easyubuntu work with edgy?
[11:55] <alecjw> znortfl: then you add the line deb http://amaranth.selfip.com edgy lrm to the end
 u don't se my mesagues?
[11:55] <Andypat10> nope
[11:55] <xipietotec> MrGreen: no, it is not configured for edgy yet
[11:55] <Gasten> EasyUbuntus homepage seems to be offline. Is there any other page I can download it from?
[11:55] <MrGreen> ok ok
[11:55] <dbmonk74> lupine_85: intel 82865
[11:55] <MrGreen> thank
[11:55] <znortfl> alecjw, done
[11:55] <zlack> how would i check which process is blocking my soundcard?
[11:55] <terrox> ProN00b: do I need to install anything else?
[11:55] <alitis4> in slackware on xfce, i got the xfsamba4 ... how i can add this on ubuntu?(i run xfce)
[11:55] <MrGreen> will edubutu work
 so then u can see the printer and get the drivers rigth??????
[11:55] <alecjw> znortfl: and you've saved the file?
[11:55] <znortfl> alecjw, I do not need to comment anything?
[11:56] <znortfl> saved now alecjw
[11:56] <alecjw> no, you don't znortfl
[11:56] <znortfl> okay. Saved the file
 so then u can see the printer and get the drivers rigth??????
[11:56] <ProN00b> terrox, i didn't
[11:56] <Andypat10> alien: yea i just dont kno where the ppd file is
[11:56] <alitis4> in slackware on xfce, i got the xfsamba4 ... how i can add this on ubuntu?(i run xfce)
[11:56] <Andypat10> alien: im a slow typer srry
[11:56] <mirak> ?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[11:56] <mirak> I got this when doing an ls -l
  ok let me check
[11:57] <alecjw> znortfl: are you using edgy and do you have nvidia-glx installed?
 don't worried
 are u female?
[11:57] <terrox> ProN00b, k thanks. Funny how none of the guides or anything worked but this simple method does.. I better post that in LEgend forums
 or male?
[11:57] <Andypat10> male
[11:57] <znortfl> I am using edgy, and no, I just removed nvidia-glx
[11:57] <jiger> does anyone know how to upgrade kernel of edgy to 2.6.17?
 wait a minute
[11:57] <znortfl> by the way, I just seemed to lose my cursor :P
[11:57] <dang`r`us> hi
[11:58] <Andypat10> !ppd
[11:58] <alecjw> ok, znortfl, you need to do this command: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <dang`r`us> is there a separate channel to get help with ati binary drivers?
[11:58] <znortfl> alecjw, okay brb
[11:58] <Andypat10> !printers
[11:58] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:58] <delire> dang`r`us: #ati
[11:58] <Rookie_> !ati
[11:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:58] <dang`r`us> delire, thanks
[11:58] <dang`r`us> Rookie_, thanks too, but that was not my problem, unfortunately
[11:58] <xipietotec> Printing in ubuntu....is difficult
[11:58] <xipietotec> =P
[11:59] <evil_cow> what repos i need to install x-window-system-dev
[11:59] <evil_cow> ?
[11:59] <evil_cow> pls
[11:59] <znortfl> okay alecjw, done that
[11:59] <evil_cow> i need it
[11:59] <terrox> ProN00b, you wouldn't happen to have tried Legends in ubuntu have you?
 OS of the windows machine?
[11:59] <ProN00b> terrox, no, what exactly is that ?
[11:59] <alecjw> znortfl: dow do sudo dpkg-reconfgure xserver-xorg to reconfigure it
[11:59] <Andypat10> XP
[12:00] <znortfl> oke alecjw brb
[12:00] <alecjw> znortfl: wait
[12:00] <dbmonk74> anyone else able to assist with a video driver install?
[12:00] <terrox> A FPS clone of Tribes, I happen to be the team lead hehe.. http://legendsthegame.net
[12:00] <znortfl> alecjw, yeah?
[12:00] <alecjw> znortfl: and tell it to use the nvidia driver
[12:00] <alecjw> then reboo
[12:00] <alecjw> *reboot
[12:00] <terrox> I know it does work but I can't get the .sh installer running ,,
[12:00] <znortfl> alecjw, already figured that ;)
[12:00] <alecjw> ok
[12:00] <ProN00b> terrox, chmod +x ?
[12:01] <terrox> syntax error
[12:01] <Keyseir> Anyone here use VMWARE?
[12:01] <evil_cow> please help me
[12:01] <ProN00b> terrox, chmod +x installer.sh
[12:01] <znortfl> alecjw, the reconfigure crashes then I entered the desired color depth. Is that ok?
[12:02] <znortfl> alecjw, crashing is not really the word. It says something about overwriting
[12:02] <alecjw> znortfl: it didin't crash, it had finished asking you questions :D
[12:02] <znortfl> alecjw, no wai :P
[12:02] <znortfl> alecjw, rebooting now
[12:02] <znortfl> brb
[12:02] <alecjw> k
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
 check this link
[12:03] <evil_cow> E: Couldn't find package x-window-system-dev
[12:03] <Cyber_Stalker> hey
 seacrhc if ur printer is in this list
[12:03] <Cyber_Stalker> you see what people are saying about ubuntu edgy + upgrade?
[12:03] <terrox> ProN00b, now it says it cant find it
[12:03] <Alien> REPEAT Somebody Can help me with samba3 + LDAP???????????????
[12:04] <Alien> REPEAT Somebody Can help me with samba3 + LDAP???????????????
[12:04] <Andypat10> alien: yes  HP     PSC 1410     hpijs     Yes     Yes     5.10     Detected (and works) as PSC 1400. Both scanning and printing work.
[12:04] <ProN00b> terrox, obviously you need to replace installer.sh with the filename of the installer
[12:04] <n1gke> I've been having difficulties with Edgy Eft, so I am staying with 6.06 LTS for the time being.
[12:04] <apokryphos> Alien: stop
[12:04] <apokryphos> !patience | alien
[12:04] <ubotu> alien: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:04] <creaphot> hi there. i have a xserver crash on shutdown, locks even the kernel. on edgy but since dapper. card ati x700. suggestions, pls?
[12:05] <terrox> ProN00b, yeah I know that but its still not finding it after chmod
 is ok, i'm only are write for the new online users
[12:05] <ProN00b> terrox,
[12:05] <Cyber_Stalker> n1gke slash dot has news about it being a mission to upgrade :/
[12:05] <ProN00b> ./installer.sh
[12:05] <ProN00b> or what are you doing ?
[12:05] <n1gke> Thanks Cyber, will check that also.
 and i don't sleep for 2 days... then maybe this is my problem...
[12:05] <Gasten> EasyUbuntus homepage seems to be offline. Is there any other page I can download it from?
[12:05] <Znortfl> alecjw, the graphical enviroment works now
[12:06] <terrox> the .sh must be buggered, it gives syntax error
[12:06] <alecjw> yay!
[12:06] <n1gke> I have 6.06 on three computers. Still working great. Edgy was rather edgy to say the least.... lol
[12:06] <Znortfl> is there anything I should do now further?
 what do u need to download
??????
[12:06] <alecjw> Znortfl: no there isnt
[12:06] <Gasten> Alien: Easyubuntu.
 what the hell is that????
[12:07] <Gasten> Alien: Please mind your language.
[12:07] <alecjw> Znortfl: there is one thing that i reommend you do now -- install beryl!
 jajaja i'm losing my mind
[12:07] <Znortfl> alecjw, then there is nothing left for me but to thank you. You helped me great. Thanks!
[12:07] <Znortfl> alecjw, you mean xgl>
 sorry was only a joke....
[12:07] <alecjw> Znortfl: glad i could help you!
[12:07] <Cyber_Stalker> Aliases relax dude
[12:07] <Cyber_Stalker> Alien*
 sorry i'm from Cuba and i have a very bad english grammar
[12:08] <Znortfl> alecjw, what did you mean by beryl btw?
[12:08] <Cyber_Stalker> wow
[12:08] <creaphot> apart from the x shutdown problem, mic capture vanished with edgy (sound blaster live). someone experienced that?
[12:08] <Cyber_Stalker> they have computers in cuba :P impressive
[12:08] <lupine_85> terrox: /bin/sh points to dash now
[12:08] <alecjw> Znortfl: its like xgl but i've heard that it works much better
[12:08] <Znortfl> "sudo apt-get install beryl" ?
 yes we have some 486
[12:08] <lupine_85> temporarily switch it to bash and the script should work - or just run "bash <script>" - either will work
 i have now 3 486 computers
[12:09] <Cyber_Stalker> ...?
 do u kno how i get the ppd file to install my printer driver to?
[12:09] <marcin_ant> hi guys I just upgraded to edgy - and finally everything is working on my asus p5b mobo
 one of this computers have Samba3(PDC) with 1371 users.... romaing profiles and FileServer
[12:09] <Cube`srN> harlo
[12:09] <dbmonk74> anyone have a moment to help with a video resolution issue?
[12:10] <alecjw> Znortfl: nope, its a bit harder than that, try this tutorial: http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-5021-howto-beryl-aiglx-nvidia-drivers but leave out the bit where it tells you to install the nvidia drivers
[12:10] <n1gke> I have had the pleasure of many contacts with ham radio stations on the island of Cuba over the years.
[12:10] <alecjw> becuase you've already done that!
[12:10] <Znortfl> okay alecjw, thanks :)
[12:10] <marcin_ant> but I got problem with logitech ultrax media desktop
[12:10] <Cube`srN> anyone can teach me how to install 6.06 from live cd?
[12:10] <terrox> lupine_85 yeah that nearly worked, I think the script is still not a complete file though,
[12:10] <marcin_ant> can someone tell me how to configure keyboard and mouse keys to work properly?
[12:10] <Cube`srN> anyone can teach me how to install 6.06 from live cd? <---
 i can tell you must be careful with the partition part
[12:11] <Cube`srN> ok
[12:11] <linuxboy> when I do a beagle search for mail, I double click on the mail that it found and it tries to open in firefox
[12:11] <marcin_ant> is there some good software to do this? except xav and few settings in xorg that doesn't work with my optical mouse ;/
 can be dangerous because don't update really good if u make a new partition
[12:11] <Cube`srN> i got 2 partition now
 then u have to close the wizard an open it again...
[12:12] <Cube`srN> cos i can't really boot up the live cd
[12:12] <Cube`srN> it jus get stuck
[12:12] <zlack> how can i check which process is using /dev/audio ?
[12:12] <Cube`srN> at diff places
[12:12] <n1gke> marcin_ant, you have to adjust your xorg.conf file to do that.
[12:12] <crimsun> zlack: lsof /dev/audio*
[12:12] <dang`r`us> zlack, sudo fuser /dev/audio
 what kind of problem u have with the livecd
[12:12] <buzzy> !jre
 why don't start?
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <marcin_ant> n1gke: I already did but it still is working partially
[12:13] <buzzy> !java
[12:13] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:13] <Cube`srN> i can't start from the cd
[12:13] <blekos> how can i reomve old kernel images?
[12:13] <Andypat10> !printer
[12:13] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:13] <Cube`srN> just get stuck at uncompressing kernel
[12:13] <zlack> dang`r`us, crimsun : both don't output anything
[12:13] <Cube`srN> of something
[12:13] <n1gke> marcin_ant, look in /etc/X11 and make changes ONLY after you have backup file.
[12:13] <Alien> !samba3+ldap
[12:13] <zlack> dang`r`us, crimsun : something is blocking my soundcard, since xmms won't play anything
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samba3+ldap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <marcin_ant> n1gke: this mouse has two additional buttons (thumb side) that work ok with some additional settings in xorg.conf
[12:13] <n1gke> I was having difficulty with the MGA driver for dual head video card, but managed to make it work.
 shutdown -r now
[12:14] <darkangel_> hello
[12:14] <zlack> Alien: i want to solve the issue, not reboot my system
[12:14] <Alien> u have to read man
[12:14] <gogeta> issue?
 with a reboot u will solve the problem...
[12:14] <darkangel_> is there any people from turkey
[12:14] <n1gke> marcin_ant, yeah. I had to make adjustment for new mouse also. Now trying to manage a wireless mouse and wireless keyboard, CHORE....
[12:14] <marcin_ant> n1gke: but this mouse also has scroller that has in fact 5 buttons
[12:14] <creaphot> nobody on my X crash and mic problem?
[12:14] <Cube`srN> can i start up
[12:15] <zlack> Alien: i know, but there should be an easier way - not the m$ way
[12:15] <Cube`srN> can i start up the installation without booting the live cd
[12:15] <dang`r`us> zlack, you might try reloading your sound modules
[12:15] <n1gke> marcin_ant, hmmmm.....  Perhaps something XORG doesn't have yet ?
[12:15] <mirak> so now ubuntu is compiled for i686 ?
 jajajajaja u are rigth i'm only joking
[12:15] <dang`r`us> in my experience alsa can be brittle and sometimes get stuck (seems to be better on edgy/2.6.17 though)
[12:15] <n1gke> mirak, heck yes. been out for awhile now.
[12:15] <marcin_ant> n1gke: xev says that it has button 4 and 5 as scroll up and down
[12:16] <marcin_ant> n1gke: button 2 when I press roll
[12:16] <mirak> n1gke: but I mean everything ?
[12:16] <mirak> is it needed to run chroot for ubuntu amd64 ?
[12:16] <Alien> !samba3
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samba3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <Alien> !ldap
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ldap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <Cube`srN> !installation live
[12:16] <Cube`srN> !install
[12:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:17] <n1gke> mirak, that I can't answer, sorry.
[12:17] <marcin_ant> n1gke: and button when I push roller left and unfortunatelly anything when I click scroller to right side
[12:17] <zlack> restarting X helps as well :)

[12:17] <n1gke> marcin_ant, can you direct my to page with information about the mouse please ?
[12:18] <Rico-> hey, is there any way to delete packages none of my packages need any more?
[12:18] <Rico-> orphaned packages i guess
[12:18] <marcin_ant> n1gke: so this mouse is working properly except scrolling left and right - up and down is ok
[12:18] <Cube`srN> can anyone teach me how to start installation from a live cd
[12:18] <Keyseir> Anyone here use VMWARE?
[12:18] <marcin_ant> n1gke: to page about this mouse?
[12:18] <n1gke> marcin_ant, yes please.
[12:19] <n1gke> Cube`srN, if your computer bios is set to boot from CD, then you should be all set really.
 restart the machine and then put del button during the boot procces
[12:19] <CPF_> Hi guys.
[12:19] <n1gke> Cube`srN, boot the computer with the CD in place and just answer a few simple questions really.
[12:20] <n1gke> Hi ya CPF.
[12:20] <CPF_> Anyone here knows a hyperterminal-alike program for linux?
 maybe u don't have the boot from CD option active in ur BIOS
[12:20] <sulo> Hi, can someone help me solve this: I just installed the NVIDIA kernel driver. When booting, X won't start, complaining that the X module is newer than the kernel module (nvidia.o). if I do 'rmmod nvidia' and then run startx, everything works fine. It seems that an older nvidia-module is loaded at boot by gdm/X or by the system startup files. How can I find this and disable it?
[12:21] <n1gke> Alien, are you near Havana ?
[12:21] <Cube`srN> [19:20]  <Alien> <Cube`srN> maybe u don't have the boot from CD option active in ur BIOS <---- i do
[12:21] <Cube`srN> i ran from the cd
[12:21] <Cube`srN> i get
[12:21] <Cube`srN> the menu
[12:21] <Cube`srN> i select
[12:21] <Cube`srN> run/install
[12:21] <Cube`srN> but it din ask me if i want to install or not
[12:21] <Cube`srN> -.-
[12:21] <marcin_ant> n1gke: http://tinyurl.com/ydnkmh
[12:21] <Kawaii-Panda> does anyone know a kid-friendly site that would explain to people with no knowledge of licensing, operating systems, etc. what linux is?
[12:21] <CPF_> Kawaii-Panda: Edubuntu?
[12:22] <n1gke> marcin_ant, thanks. I am going to L(O)(O)K at that now. brb\
[12:22] <Kawaii-Panda> CPF_: website
 i'm from Cienfuegos (center of the island) but i do i know Havana and have good friends there
[12:22] <CPF_> ubuntu.org
[12:22] <v-dogg> any idea how long it should take for dd to overwrite a 15Gb hard drive? it's been doing it now for two hours at least :)
[12:22] <CPF_> Kawaii-Panda: http://www.edubuntu.org/
[12:22] <highneko> When executing certain commands, my terminal colors all go while, and I think it froze. I use ubuntu edgy. This is the command: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
 if u say YES what happen then?
[12:23] <infidel> !ati
[12:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:23] <n1gke> Alien, thanks.
 why u ask???????
[12:24] <Kawaii-Panda> CPF_: i really do mean a kid-friendly site, that windows users could access so that they can learn more about linux and what open-source software is about.
[12:24] <CPF_> Anyone here has a prog for connection through serial (null modem) cable?
[12:24] <Cube`srN> [19:23]  <Alien> <Cube`srN> if u say YES what happen then? <---- if just hang while loading
[12:24] <n1gke> Alien, I have ham radio contacts from Cuba sometimes.
[12:24] <CPF_> Kawaii-Panda: Isn't that kid-friendly website then?
[12:24] <Kawaii-Panda> thanks for the help though ^_^
[12:24] <n1gke> marcin_ant, which model is that mouse please.
 ohhh nice... good...
[12:24] <n1gke> Alien, yes. Very much so.
 what kind of hardware do u have?
[12:26] <CPF_> Kawaii-Panda: Maybe this one is better: http://www.osef.org/
[12:26] <buzzy> people can you say me why i get this sound device error?http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8313/sounderrorns6.jpg
[12:26] <buzzy> http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8313/sounderrorns6.jpg
[12:26] <Cube`srN> Alien : i am on a p3 600mhz, 192mb ram
[12:26] <Cube`srN> old system which i am using to test
[12:26] <Cube`srN> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=boot.png <--- i got to this screen
[12:26] <tms_> hello
[12:26] <marcin_ant> n1gke: I just found some additional info and this is propably this mouse: http://tinyurl.com/yeg56m
[12:26] <Cube`srN> i select the 1st option it get stuck when loading
[12:27] <Kawaii-Panda> thanks anyway i did a search and i found this: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/question246.htm
[12:27] <Alien> hey u can't install Kubuntu tehere
 is Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[12:27] <Cube`srN> ubu
[12:27] <marcin_ant> n1gke: it's decribed just as Logitech Cordless Optical Mouse (on it's bottom)
[12:27] <CPF_> Kawaii-Panda: Ok ^^
[12:27] <Kawaii-Panda> Alien: why not both. im using kde and gnome, and they're cool.
 u are using that but sure with a alternate iso????????
[12:28] <CPF_> And I use ubuntu with fluxbox :)
[12:28] <Cube`srN> it get stuck at loading the kernel
[12:28] <Cube`srN> -.-
[12:28] <leafw> woah, ubuntu just crashed instead of entering suspended mode when run out of battery. And now on reboot boonobo refuses to run, and asks to remove all applets  and usggests killing the bonobo-activation-server, which doesn't help.
[12:28] <leafw> any clues?
 gnome need more RAM and speed than KDE
[12:28] <CPF_> Cube`srN: Maybe try to install Xubuntu?
[12:28] <leafw> by the way how can one reboot and force fsck ?
 then u can try with Kubuntu
[12:29] <marcin_ant> n1gke: but this article http://tinyurl.com/yhqjxy (in polish only ;) sorry) says that it's mouse is exactly the same as Cordless Click! Plus
[12:29] <Cube`srN> can i not install
[12:29] <Cube`srN> from the gui
 u can try with Kubuntu-Alternate
[12:29] <CPF_> You're in the gui now?
[12:29] <CPF_> sudo apt-get install kde
[12:29] <Cube`srN> no i dun think i can get into the gui
[12:30] <CPF_> Command, if you get that far...
[12:30] <Alien> Ubuntu and Kubuntu have Alternate ISOS this is for machines with low reformace
[12:30] <Cube`srN> ok
[12:30] <SpacyAK> Hi, has anyone made the Samsung SH-W163A s-ata dvd bruner working with any Ubuntu? In SuSE it works. The other S-ATA hard drives also work perfect.
[12:30] <Cube`srN> so i type sudo apt-get install kde
[12:30] <cahoot> leafw:one way is shutdown -rF  - else touch /forcefsck
[12:30] <Alien> yeah u can do this too
[12:30] <CPF_> Cube`srN: Yah, that should install kde
[12:31] <Alien> but is better download a iso fo Kubuntu
 iso of Kubuntu
[12:31] <leafw> thanks cahoot
[12:31] <tiger__it> Ive a problem when I try to upgrade / update Ubuntu
[12:31] <tiger__it> Can I post my problem ?
[12:31] <CPF_> tiger__it: Spit it out.
[12:31] <jmsbwtr_> lo, when i upgraded from dapper to edgy it seems to of messed up alsa, as both kaffeine (using xine engine) and rhythmbox have messed up, both now temp fixed using oss
[12:31] <Alien> !samba3+ldap
[12:31] <tiger__it> CFP_ ??
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samba3+ldap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <jmsbwtr_> how can i sort out alsa?
[12:31] <tiger__it> The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED:
[12:31] <tiger__it>   adept adept-batch adept-common adept-installer adept-manager adept-notifier adept-updater arts debtags kaffeine kaffeine-xine katapult kde-guidance
[12:31] <tiger__it>   kde-systemsettings kdepasswd kdeprint kdm keep khelpcenter klipper kmenuedit kmplayer-base kmplayer-konq-plugins konqueror-nsplugins konversation
[12:31] <tiger__it>   kpersonalizer ksmserver ksplash ksystemlog kwin-style-crystal libpythonize0 libqt4-core libqt4-gui libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql librsync1 libsqlite0
[12:31] <tiger__it>   openoffice.org-kde poster pykdeextensions python2.4-dev rdiff-backup speedcrunch
[12:32] <ghenry> hi all, we have been running breezy amd64 server for a year now, and would like to upgrade to dapper LTS, do you think editing sources.list is wise and doing apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:32] <tiger__it> Every time I try to do upgrade / update ... I;m  going to loss many packages!!
[12:32] <CPF_> Hmm...
[12:32] <tiger__it> ahhhhh
[12:33] <CPF_> What command(s) you use?
[12:33] <Adriano> where could I get an epiphany-browser version _with_ debugging symbols? I need it for bugzilla
[12:33] <tiger__it> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:33] <tiger__it> It was
[12:33] <Adriano> launchpad shows nothing
[12:33] <CPF_> Shouldn't it be apt-get?
[12:33] <tiger__it> the last two are the problem.... I guess
[12:33] <Adriano> neither does apt-cache search
[12:33] <tiger__it> Im using 6.1 rc Edgy
[12:34] <NantesThisNight> hi everybody
[12:34] <Alien> Some Help please with Samba3+LDAP
[12:34] <Alien> ?
[12:34] <Cube`srN> do u think it is a prob wif my cd?
[12:34] <tiger__it> CPF .... aptitude and apt-get are similars
[12:34] <NantesThisNight> wouaw there is a lot of people on this #irc
[12:34] <tiger__it> CPF .... aptitude is better (theorically)
[12:34] <Alien> could be...
 could be my friend
[12:34] <Cube`srN> hey Alien
[12:34] <CPF_> Hmm, didn't know about that...
[12:34] <theplatypus> yeah the channel is too busy to be of much help
[12:35] <Cube`srN> my get stuck @ Creating LIvE CD ACCOunt
[12:35] <Cube`srN> or something
[12:35] <NantesThisNight> Can i have some help for a problme of connexion ?
[12:35] <tiger__it> CPF ... ok.... thanks IDEM
[12:35] <CPF_> Well, I runned your command (but with apt-get), and it doesn't do a thing here :)
[12:35] <HymnToLife> well, aptitude is better only at managing dependencies
[12:35] <HymnToLife> but most of the time, you just want to install your stuff, not remove it ;)
 hey just go to www.ubuntu.com and then go to download
[12:35] <tiger__it> CPF I will try using aptitude
 search for alternate
 and download
[12:36] <tiger__it> CPF With  synaptic: no problem
[12:36] <Alien> or www.kubuntu.org
[12:36] <NantesThisNight> Is there somebody to help me, i have a problem with the ethernet connexion on an imac G3
[12:37] <TC`> !flash
[12:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:37] <Alien> what kind of problem>?
 what kind of problem?
[12:37] <CPF_> tiger__it: Update works perfectly here, aptitude also, so, I don't know what you do wrong...
[12:37] <CPF_> Are you sure it is not an update, so it needs to be removed first, and then renstalled?
[12:38] <NantesThisNight> it just don't work, on my imacG5 in work simply, i just do nothing, but with the old imac, it sucks
[12:38] <TC`> !falsh-sound
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about falsh-sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <TC`> !flash-sound
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash-sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <TC`> !sound
[12:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:38] <Alien> do u have static IP configuration or DHCP???
 do u have static IP configuration or DHCP???
[12:39] <augustin> what do I need to install GTK+-2.8 ?
[12:39] <augustin> what should I type into console, which packet?
[12:39] <NantesThisNight> DHCP
 try ifdown eth0
[12:40] <NantesThisNight> it work like that usually
 then edit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:40] <augustin> !gtk
[12:40] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
 then change dhcp with static
[12:40] <TMM> does anyone here know of a command which can tell me the throughput of a network interface on the command line? or will I just have to use snmp?
[12:40] <TMM> I just want to know it now, I don't want to monitor anything
 something like this:
 iface inet eth0 static
 address 10.10.0.x
[12:41] <JoshuaW> Hello :P
[12:41] <NantesThisNight> ifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
 netmask 255.255.x.x
[12:42] <terrox> hrm how do I make sound work if I have two sound cards and its using the wrong one?
[12:42] <Alien> is really clear
[12:42] <JoshuaW> I'm having problems getting Ubuntu to work with my wireless adapter :P
[12:42] <Alien> are u like root user?
[12:42] <NantesThisNight> not, how can i have root statut inside ?
[12:43] <Alien> sudo -s
[12:43] <Alien> then enter the password of ur current user
[12:43] <NantesThisNight> obviously
[12:43] <Alien> passwd root
[12:43] <rage-> I have some libs that got installed to /usr/share/lib that aren't being seen by the application that needs them -- how can I fix this?
[12:43] <Alien> to set a password to root
[12:44] <Jesus> I need help with my chroot that crached in my edgy upgrade! On what channel can I get some help? here?
[12:44] <liwi> i suggest that games in add/remove should be grouped
[12:45] <NantesThisNight> thanks alien, i look again ... but i'm obliged to diconnect this computer to connect the other ...
[12:45] <NantesThisNight> lol
[12:45] <NantesThisNight> i'll be back
[12:45] <augustin> how can I upgrade my gtk? I need 2.4
[12:46] <crimsun> augustin: you have > gtk 2.4.
[12:46] <crimsun> even warty shipped with gtk 2.4.10
[12:46] <crimsun> and that was two years ago
[12:47] <augustin> nextcrimsun: I have xubuntu 6.06
[12:47] <Jesus> What does the error: "E: locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid" mean?
[12:47] <augustin> crimsun: I have xubuntu 6.06
[12:47] <crimsun> which has gtk 2.8.17
[12:47] <Jesus> I need help with my chroot that crached in my edgy upgrade! On what channel can I get some help? here?
[12:47] <Jesus> What does the error: "E: locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid" mean?
[12:47] <augustin> crimsun: I wanted to install http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=42755
[12:48] <augustin> this skin
[12:48] <tiger__it> CPF using apt-get instead of aptitude: Great solution!! works!!
[12:48] <crimsun> augustin: there's a deb for 6.06
[12:49] <alitis4> how i can configure my microphone?
[12:49] <rage-> I have some libs that got installed to /usr/share/lib that aren't being seen by the application that needs them -- how can I fix this?
[12:49] <augustin> crimsun when I run the configure script, I get  GTK+-2.8 is required to compile murrine
[12:50] <augustin> configure error
[12:50] <Xk2c> augustin: http://southernvaleslug.org/ubuntu/dapper-drake/gtk2-engines-murrine_0.21-1_i386.deb
[12:50] <Xk2c> augustin: for dapper
[12:51] <augustin> Xk2c: how can I install this?
[12:51] <cuatr0s0s> just do it
[12:51] <crimsun> augustin: just click the URL.
[12:51] <Xk2c> augustin: dpkg -i /path/to/downoaded/file
[12:52] <augustin> well it's easy:)
[12:52] <BooBar> dpkg -i http://southernvaleslug.org/ubuntu/dapper-drake/gtk2-engines-murrine_0.21-1_i386.deb
[12:52] <Jesus> I need help with my chroot that crached in my edgy upgrade! On what channel can I get some help? here?
[12:52] <Jesus> What does the error: "E: locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid" mean?
[12:53] <Kawaii-Panda> Jesus: it means the interface E:locale's facet cannot create a c local name
[12:53] <Kawaii-Panda> because it is not valid :)
[12:53] <Xk2c> hehe
[12:53] <Xk2c> sorry
[12:53] <Kawaii-Panda> thats not a joke really, its true.
[12:54] <amayera> hi
 well... I got that, but how can I fix it?
[12:54] <Kawaii-Panda> it can be solved by changing the locale in the gdm menu
[12:54] <kike> Hello; anyone know how to remove an archive that never was at .trash when I push "del" key over it archive? I delete that as nautilus-root-script Thank You! (sorry bad english)
[12:54] <hume> I get errors during upgrade to edgy, from perl, that LC_ALL is not set - is it in /etc/environemt it is to be set?
[12:54] <augustin> crimsun Xk2c: I still got
[12:54] <Jesus> I don't use the gdm-menu-stuff
[12:54] <Xk2c> Kawaii-Panda: i know, but somehow it still funny
[12:54] <Kawaii-Panda> try using English(US) in my experience, it works with almost everything
[12:54] <augustin> checking for GTK... configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile murrine
[12:54] <augustin> checking for GTK... configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile murrine
[12:54] <Kawaii-Panda> Jesus: the screen where you log in.
[12:54] <amayera> I have a problem with firefox: when I try to start the latest version in edgy (and the old ones too) I get the following error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 \n Major opcode:  148 \n ... \n Failed to open device
[12:54] <crimsun> augustin: you don't need to compile it. You just installed the binary.
[12:54] <Kawaii-Panda> theres an option box over there.
[12:55] <amayera> anybody else experiencing these problems?
[12:55] <augustin> crimsun: do I need to log out and log in ?
[12:55] <giskard> hey, do you know if there is something like reason for linux/ubuntu?
[12:55] <syock> hoyo
 yes... but I would prefer not to use gnome.
[12:55] <alitis4> i can't use my microphone... why?
 do I have to?
[12:55] <BooBar> gis rosegarden
[12:56] <Kawaii-Panda> no, you dont have to use gnome
[12:56] <cahoot> rage-: got an /etc/ld.so.conf.d ?
[12:56] <Kawaii-Panda> just change the locale, i.e. language
[12:56] <syock> why does synaptic tell me to remove ubuntu-desktop if i want to remove gnome-games
[12:56] <rage-> cahoot, nope
[12:56] <TMM> hum... 'nload' that's nice
[12:56] <Kawaii-Panda> in a default installation its in the gdm's options->language menu.
[12:56] <hume> syock, its a dummy package that points to gnome-games
[12:56] <crimsun> augustin: no, just download a murrina and drop it into ~/.themes/, then choose it in Settings> User Interface Settings
 How do I know which language that is right?
[12:57] <hume> syock, no problems removing it
[12:57] <BooBar> giskard: reason
[12:57] <Kawaii-Panda> try them all. or you could just use English(US), since it works on almost everything.
[12:57] <sharperguy> Ok, I've been having quite a bit of trouble since i installed and activated nvidia-glx, Failure to initialise HAL, Youtube (flash 9b) getting stuck (like a cd), and GDM not reconising the human background and defaulting to a different theme (its just a png man)
[12:57] <giskard> BooBar: there is a linux version?
[12:57] <boguh> can every user i create get root previliges with its password or is there a way to restrict it?
[12:57] <marcin_ant> n1gke: any success?
[12:57] <Kawaii-Panda> i know because i have that error too when i use my own language in the past ( i.e. Tagalog (Philippines) )
[12:57] <syock> hume: so like i can remove at-spi and it won`t affect openoffice.org-gnome?
[12:57] <cahoot> rage-: missing some devpkg? I'm just one day into ubuntu but both ld.so.conf and the ld.so.conf.d exists here
[12:57] <BooBar> run it in wine
[12:58] <rage-> hrm I dunno
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8, is the one im using
[12:58] <hume> syock, dont know about at-spi, if it says its a dummy package it is no risk
[12:58] <rage-> did you install any pacuages manually?
[12:58] <rage-> packages*
[12:58] <cahoot> rage-: via pkg manager
[12:59] <n1gke> marcin_ant, please again the model number. I got busy helping my son.
[12:59] <cahoot> rage-: libtool? (my guess)
[01:00] <Kawaii-Panda> hm... probably a different problem. probably on the library...
[01:00] <fnf> Hi, anyone has any info on configuring Edgy's upstart ?. I've tried looking at the Wiki pages and Googled (not excessively though) but couldn't find an answer yet.
[01:00] <marcin_ant> n1gke: label on this mouse says that it's Logitech Cordless Optical Mouse, but it's identical with Cordless Click! Plus
[01:00] <crimsun> fnf: ...configuring?
[01:00] <fnf> crimsun: Yes, just like the good ol' /etc/inittab ?
[01:01] <n1gke> marcin_ant, okay. Let me look again. Thanks.....
[01:01] <syock> Yay i managed to crash XChat while uninstalling gnome-games. Argh, what`s with this spell-checking thing!!!
[01:01] <Nyto-RJ> Edgy clock problem ( canot change the clock with right-click and then Adjust Time/date) its open the bug report thing)!!!
[01:01] <fnf> !upstart
[01:01] <crimsun> fnf: /usr/share/doc/upstart/README.Debian.gz
[01:01] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[01:01] <Kleggas> Hi. I have an Acer laptop with ALC883 sound chipset (HD SB ATI) which were supposed to be fixed in edgy with alsa 1.0.13. I had sound in dapper but my mic and front did not work, and in edgy it works after a fresh install untill I install fglrx drivers, then Im back on crappy dapper functionality. Has anyone ever made this work in edgy with fglrx, or is there any other distro which can handle both my soundcard and fglrx in a good way?
[01:01] <lupine_85> fnf: no :D, but you could look at the upstsart-sysvinit package (IIRC) - it presumably contains scripts to make upstart act like sysvinit, so you could probably learn a lot from it
[01:01] <kike> hello, I press "del" on an archive but is yet in my HD and i dont know how to delete it (is not at .trash!) thank you :)
[01:02] <marcin_ant> n1gke: I reconfigured xorg and everything work except side scrolling
[01:02] <fnf> crimsun: Thanks, will look at at right now, and thanks to ubotu ;) .
[01:02] <crimsun> Kleggas: I've already committed fixes for the realtek issues; they should be in an upcoming errata kernel (no ETA).
[01:03] <n1gke> marcin_ant, ok. Look on the bottom for an LX # please.
[01:03] <syock> I happen to have this bad habit of removing unwanted things even though i know they`re harmless. It`s the result of using windows for years
[01:03] <Kleggas> crimsun: so I will be able to have both mic/front AND fglrx? It will not default back to OSS drivers as soon as fglrx is present on the system?
[01:03] <n1gke> marcin_ant, like I said before, perhaps XORG hasn't caught up to this type of mouse yet also.
[01:03] <Nyto-RJ> Can someone try to change the date on Edgy's
[01:03] <Nyto-RJ> see if its open the bug report!!!
[01:03] <crimsun> Kleggas: I can't speak for your particular issue, as I can't test against fglrx
[01:03] <marcin_ant> n1gke: there is no LX # on it's bottom
[01:04] <n1gke> ok
[01:04] <n1gke> hmmm
[01:04] <Kleggas> crimsun: ok. will have to test when it is out
[01:05] <n1gke> marcin_ant, this stinks. Sorry, the product or page you're trying to view is not available in your location. Please browse the rest of our site to learn about other products, company information, and more.
[01:05] <abo> hi, I upgraded yesterday night to Edgy, now I can't see the BBC and other news sites' videos, can you help?
[01:05] <Lobosque> guys, i can write in a FAT32 HD in linux?
[01:05] <n1gke> marcin_ant, I have a good picture of the mouse, but can't get info from Logitech.... grrrrrrr
[01:05] <lupine_85> Lobosque: yes
[01:05] <Ignatius> Lobosque: AFAIK
[01:05] <Kleggas> Lobosque: yes
[01:05] <abo> is there a page with FAQ about web embeded video streams?
[01:06] <abo> Lobosque, yes you can
[01:06] <marcin_ant> n1gke: maybe because it's "oem" mouse
[01:06] <Lobosque> ok, thanks guys
[01:06] <gnomefreak> abo: is it flash? is it real video?
[01:06] <marcin_ant> n1gke: btw where are you - I mean what location?
[01:06] <abo> gnomefreak, I know bbc is real video
[01:06] <gnomefreak> can i have link
[01:06] <abo> gnomefreak, I believe others include flash
[01:07] <zetotof> re
[01:08] <tiger> TigTigger:  R U SiberianTiger ?
[01:08] <wozznik> hi
[01:09] <m6s> has anyone HP1100 and 6.06 ?
[01:09] <tiger_it> TigTigger:  R U SiberianTiger ? eh ?
[01:09] <m6s> I found my printer manually, and I print garbage....
[01:10] <m6s> in google, I find nothing relevant
[01:10] <m6s> any help?
[01:10] <kike> how to search an lost archive that did not pass over the trash after delete it (now this archive is yet on my HD and i want to delete it!)
[01:10] <Lobosque> guys, when i try to install nvidia drives, it says that i must kill the X server... so how do i do it?
[01:10] <SiberianTiger> tiger_it, pm
[01:11] <Kleggas> Lobosque: ctrl+alt+backspace is one way
[01:11] <rage-> does anyone know what package will yield the ld.conf folders/files?
[01:11] <gnomefreak> kike: what is it?
[01:11] <syock> kike: what does that mean?
[01:11] <Kleggas> loboto restart it, if you want to kill X and go to console you could justrun: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:11] <tiger_it> SiberianTiger: sorry for your nick :)
[01:11] <SiberianTiger> Ok but just remember it
[01:11] <n1gke> marcin_ant, I have both wireless mouse and keyboard also, and have a heck of a time trying to configure them for Ubuntu v6.06 LTS also.
[01:12] <kike> i dont know, just press del over the archive ....
[01:12] <cafuego> rage-: libc6
[01:12] <tiger_it> SiberianTiger: yeah ....
[01:12] <gnomefreak> tiger_it: please stay on topic
[01:12] <rudiz> after upgraden tot edgy, i stille have the progressbar of dapper. how to change it?
[01:12] <gnomefreak> kike: what archive?
[01:12] <Tiger> gnomefreak, bye
[01:12] <kike> a backup
[01:12] <tiger_it> gnomefreak:  soorry
[01:12] <kike> backup.tgz
[01:12] <TMM> rudiz: did you follow the instructions on the wiki? it sounds like your upgrade wasn't complete
[01:12] <kike> that i made
[01:12] <gnomefreak> kike: where is it?
[01:12] <Sarkie> Hi, is there anyway I can download all the packages for ubuntu, on a windows machine, put them onto a cd, and use them with ubuntu?
[01:12] <kike> in /
[01:13] <rudiz> TMM i have some holdbacks in synaptic
[01:13] <marcin_ant> n1gke: well keyboard is another story - but I don't use special "multimedia" keys too often
[01:13] <rudiz> doe i van to update them
[01:13] <appleseed> hello there people ...
[01:13] <TMM> rudiz: well, are you comfortable using the command-line?
[01:13] <n1gke> marcin_ant, likewise.
[01:13] <kike> gnomefreak, the archive was in /
[01:13] <n1gke> Hello appleseed.
[01:13] <appleseed> apokryphos: thnx mate ... u really saved me the other day ;)
[01:13] <rudiz> TMM yep
[01:13] <gnomefreak> kike: open terminal and type rm name.tar.gz
[01:13] <apokryphos> np =)
[01:14] <TMM> rudiz: very well, do this: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard ubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:14] <kike> gnomefreak, the archive is not in my hd0 but is still ocuping space o.O
[01:14] <rage-> cafuego, is there any reason why I wouldn't have /etc/ld.so.conf* files/folders? that package is being reported as being installed and I surely haven't deleted those files
[01:14] <appleseed> I have a question for you nice people here ... I plan on buying this Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 3200 Laser product. However, I searched for Linux support on Logitech forums too but no where to be found
[01:14] <JosefK> anyone here tried installing both manpages-posix and manpages-posix-reference ?
[01:14] <cafuego> rage-: They're not really essential; the default library paths are hardcoded into the linker.
[01:14] <appleseed> Is it possible for anyone to help me on this or should I avoid this buy? :p
[01:14] <gnomefreak> kike: is it in /var/cache? is there where its occupy the space?
[01:14] <rudiz> TMM i will try it,thnx
[01:15] <Arjen> Hi. I'm having trouble with my LAN connection under Ubuntu. It doesn't seem to get an IP address from the DHCP server. Where do I start to fix this problem?
[01:15] <tiger_it> gnomefreak:  I think the file kike is looking was move
[01:15] <cafuego> rage-: You cna get 'em abck though; sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss <libc6 deb file>
[01:15] <kike> gnomefreak, im going to see it, one moment thanks
[01:15] <cafuego> rage-: do NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE install the wrong libc6 package.
[01:15] <JosefK> sorry, glibc-doc and glibc-doc-reference, dpkg throws a fit when I try it (one seems to overwrite files from the other)
[01:15] <TMM> rudiz: np, after it completes, make sure to run: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard again, then run sudo apt-get -f install; sudo dpkg --configure -a; then reboot
[01:15] <rage-> cafuego, well the root of my problem is that I have a program that I've compiled manually that installed some libs to /usr/share/lib/ and they're not being found by the program at run time
[01:16] <gnomefreak> TMM: ubuntu-desktop is all that is needed it should install the others
[01:16] <rage-> like a path problem or something
[01:16] <Sarkie> Hi, is there anyway I can download all the packages for ubuntu, on a windows machine, put them onto a cd, and use them with ubuntu? or specifically those to do with Wireless tools?
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Sarkie: at packages.ubuntu.com
[01:17] <TMM> gnomefreak: I was not aware, thanks :)
[01:17] <TMM> gnomefreak: that'll save some typing ;
[01:17] <TMM> ;)
[01:17] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:17] <appleseed> I guess no one can help me right now on this Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 3200 Laser, eh?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> laser what?
[01:17] <kike> gnomefreak, the archive is not there, /var/cache :( I look for with internal search and nothing
[01:17] <cafuego> rage-: Just add '/usr/share/lib' to /etc/ld.so.conf and run 'sudo ldconfig'
[01:18] <giftnudel> appleseed: Is there a good reason why you want exactly this mouse?
[01:18] <appleseed> it is a keyboard/mouse combo from logitech
[01:18] <Sarkie> gnomefreak How do I install deb packagename.deb ?
[01:18] <cafuego> rage-: Incidentally, if you're going to manually install stuff, have a look at 'checkinstall'.
[01:18] <kike> tiger_it, i dont know where the archive was (vamos que no lo encuentro :P)
[01:18] <giftnudel> appleseed: Does it have a lot of special keys?
[01:18] <appleseed> let me saw you : "...batteries can last up to 15 months for the keyboard and up to 6 months for the mouse..."
[01:18] <gnomefreak> Sarkie: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[01:18] <appleseed> show*
[01:18] <Sarkie> tah
[01:18] <rage-> cafuego, I have no /etc/ld.so.conf
[01:18] <rage-> is this normal?
[01:18] <appleseed> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,crid=2162,contentid=12130 from here :)
[01:19] <cafuego> rage-: Just create it, it's a text file.
[01:19] <rage-> I'll just create it if so, but I find it odd
[01:19] <giftnudel> appleseed: the basic functionality such as pointing or writing should really be supported
[01:19] <gnomefreak> Sarkie: or if on dapper or edgy just double click it
[01:19] <giftnudel> appleseed: the special keys might not, however
[01:19] <Sarkie> gnomefreak: Do you know the best pacakges for Wireless connection, I cant seem to get an IP address with it using the one in Edgy
[01:19] <appleseed> what about the power management you think it will be the same? :/
[01:19] <marcin_ant> n1gke: but to be honest it sucks that ubuntu (and other linux distros) has so poor support for such basic peripherials as keyboard and mouse... ;/
[01:19] <gnomefreak> kike: i suggest running in terminal locate packge.tar.gz to find out where it is being left
[01:19] <marcin_ant> n1gke: it can really destroy first impression...
[01:20] <gnomefreak> Sarkie: no i dont use wireless but ndiswrapper would be my first guess
[01:21] <kike> gnomefreak, im just doing it, i hope we find them! :D
[01:21] <Sarkie> gnomefreak  It's found the driver!! it seems to be working, just need to find my wireless hub, and such, and get dhcp working!
[01:21] <highneko> whiptail is making my cpu 100%. If you use edgy try top. How can I remove this whiptail thing?
[01:21] <n1gke> marcin_ant, it takes a while to catch up to the latest and greatest really.
[01:21] <gnomefreak> !wireless > Sarkie
[01:21] <highneko> I had to do a sudo killall wihptail
[01:21] <gnomefreak> Sarkie: would start there see if it helps
[01:21] <Sarkie> !wireless
[01:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:21] <Sarkie> Tried it :)
[01:21] <rage-> cafuego, thanks for the help, that looks to be all for now
[01:21] <appleseed> n1gke:  u mean that at some point I may install Ubuntu 7 and function as well as under Vista? :/
[01:22] <giftnudel> appleseed: Honestly, I think so, yes, but I can unfortunately not guarantee you
[01:22] <n1gke> marcin_ant, as each version of any Linux software arrives, they add more and more stuff.
[01:22] <rage-> cafuego, also, thanks for the checkinstall tip
[01:22] <cafuego> np
[01:22] <Sethwm2> ello I am running the PPC version of 6.10 and I am having problems finding the PPC version of plugins
[01:22] <Sethwm2> such as
[01:22] <Pensacola> how to setup firefox so it uses backspace for previous page?
[01:22] <Sethwm2> Flash
[01:22] <marcin_ant> n1gke: but there is some hope ;) https://launchpad.net/bounties/mouse-horizontal-scrolling
[01:22] <n1gke> marcin_ant, like 'any' software, it takes time to catch up.
[01:22] <cafuego> Sethwm2: There is so such thing.
[01:22] <cafuego> no such thing, even
[01:22] <n1gke> Oh yeh...
[01:22] <Sethwm2> What do you mean?
[01:22] <appleseed> ok thanks nice people :D
[01:22] <gnomefreak> Sethwm2: there is not flash for 64bit nor ppc
[01:23] <cafuego> Sethwm2: there is no powerpc flash plugin (or java) (or video)
[01:23] <Sethwm2> So
[01:23] <Sethwm2> I am screwed?
[01:23] <appleseed> cu around ... I will go back on my Ubuntu 6.10 to "play" with it :D
[01:23] <n1gke> I have four computers using Ubuntu. The most difficult was to make the wireless keyboard and wireless mouse work, but I managed.
[01:23] <cafuego> Email Adobe and ask them why there isn't one.
[01:23] <jo_e> hi. i have just upgraded to edgy and now xine plays everything really choppy. other media players work fine. what could be causing this?
[01:23] <cafuego> Actually, there is a java one these days... IBM have a plugin with their JRE.
[01:23] <gnomefreak> cafuego: too expensive to build other archs
[01:24] <gnomefreak> thats my guess
[01:24] <kike> gnomefreak, the archive left is not find by $locate backup.tar.gz
[01:24] <kike> :(
[01:24] <gnomefreak> kike: what makes you think its still on your system?
[01:24] <cafuego> gnomefreak: TThey don't seem to have problems with an OSX one.
[01:24] <Sethwm2> This sucks...
[01:24] <Xk2c> kike: sudo updatedb
[01:24] <cafuego> gnomefreak: Maybe the Linux one is too much of a horrible kludge.
[01:24] <gnomefreak> true
[01:24] <orion_> !nvidia
[01:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:24] <Sethwm2> Do you think that future updates of Ubuntu will have it?
[01:24] <Sethwm2> Or the Support
[01:24] <Sethwm2> ?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> Sethwm2: its not ubuntu its adobe
[01:25] <cafuego> Sethwm2: There is 'gplflash', which may or may not work..
[01:25] <kike> gnomefreak, because i've 9gb free before this archive left, now ib 400mb of free space
[01:25] <kike> Xk2c, what this command do?
[01:25] <Sethwm2> is that in the portage?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> kike: did you refresh the window?
[01:25] <kike> i restart the computer too
[01:25] <kike> :D
[01:25] <cafuego> There is no portage, did you mean repositories? ;-)
[01:25] <Xk2c> kike: it will rebuild your "locate" database
[01:25] <Sethwm2> YEah
[01:25] <Sethwm2> sorry
[01:25] <kike> Xk2c, thanks, i try to do this
[01:26] <cafuego> hold on
[01:26] <cafuego> (it's been a while since I ran ppc linux_
[01:26] <Sethwm2> OK
[01:26] <Sethwm2> thx
[01:26] <n1gke> marcin_ant, I'll be back later. I am going to try once more to install the wireless keyboard and mouse and network card in this Ubuntu computer.....
[01:26] <Xk2c> kike: nope ;)
[01:26] <Code-E> Hi im trying to install cube 2 and when i do im just getting error: ./bin_unix/linux_client: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director
[01:27] <Code-E> Is there a way to get around this? it is water edition i am installing
[01:27] <gnomefreak> kike: look for the files that you made the tar.gz maybe they are still there?
[01:27] <cafuego> Sethwm2: Have a look at http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[01:27] <Sethwm2> thanks
[01:28] <Code-E> ???
[01:28] <cafuego> Note, it's alpha software
[01:28] <gnomefreak> eh i hear thats just like gplflash (works when it wants to)
[01:28] <syock> help I`m experiencing so many disk ops over the last minute it`s so unnatural
[01:28] <Sethwm2> OK
[01:28] <Sethwm2> Thanks
[01:28] <gnomefreak> but a stable/working flash plugin for ppc is not gonna be found for a while i feel
[01:28] <kike> gnomefreak, the files are impossible to find with locate, find, or with the internal search of ubuntu
[01:28] <cafuego> ... this is why my wife swapped her mac mini for a beige pc
[01:29] <kike> Xk2c, the update dont resolve the problem
[01:29] <gnomefreak> kike: did you try find file
[01:29] <gnomefreak> kike: what did you use to back it up?
[01:30] <Sethwm2> I am looking on the FTP
[01:30] <Sethwm2> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/
[01:30] <Code-E> Can nobody help me?
[01:30] <Sethwm2> And I don't know what to pick
[01:30] <Code-E> omg
[01:30] <Sethwm2> ?
[01:30] <Sethwm2> :(
[01:31] <Raskall> any known issues with edgy?
[01:31] <kike> gnomefreak, i try to find with /$locate backup.tar.gz u say to me, and too with the internal search of ubuntu on "/"
[01:31] <Kawaii-Panda> Raskall: aside from usplash not working, i havent heard any other problems with edgy
[01:31] <Kawaii-Panda> my usplash works fine though
[01:32] <Raskall> Kawaii-Panda: ok.. but the usplash doesn't prevent grub from loading?
[01:32] <atk> Hi. What are the possible reasons why I don't hear a terminal bell? I have enabled system beep.
[01:32] <Kawaii-Panda> Raskall: no grub comes before usplash.
[01:32] <Rothguard> Go to the source directory and run 'make distclean' and 'make'.  WTF DOES THAT MEAN  P.S. im a total noob so send me the answer in pm if your in a helping mood
[01:32] <blisz> hello
[01:32] <Code-E> !gay
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <ricanelite> Hello, Is there a new Firefox out?
[01:33] <Sethwm2> YEs
[01:33] <Kawaii-Panda> atk: probably youre system spekear is not connected or nonexistent
[01:33] <Sethwm2> 2.0
[01:33] <Tompu> atk: are you asking for a system beep from gnome terminals?
[01:33] <ricanelite> how can i get it?
[01:33] <bartek> hello  some one speak polish???
[01:33] <atk> Tompu: yes
[01:33] <Sethwm2> firefox.com
[01:33] <atk> Kawaii-Panda: it beeps on every boot in bios so it's working
[01:33] <Kawaii-Panda> getfirefox.com
[01:33] <Ignatius> bartek: #ubuntu.pl ?
[01:33] <Tompu> atk: do you have multiple soundcards?
[01:33] <Sethwm2> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
[01:33] <Xk2c> kike:  $locate backup
[01:33] <gsuveg> xgl setup within edgy how long ?
[01:33] <kike> gnomefreak, now im trying with $find / backup.tgz (thanks to tiger_it )
[01:33] <atk> Tompu: negative. I'm using hp nx 6110
[01:33] <bartek> heh it not work ;/
[01:33] <Kawaii-Panda> its on in system->sounds?
[01:33] <bartek> #ubuntu.pl
[01:33] <ricanelite> was it suppose to be in the new edgy download?
[01:33] <blisz> my gnome toolbar is gone :S how can i fix that?
[01:33] <Xk2c> kike: if it does not find it, its not there
[01:34] <Sethwm2> It was..
[01:34] <Sethwm2> Go to about
[01:34] <Sethwm2> In Firefox
[01:34] <Sethwm2> 2.0
[01:34] <bartek> LOL Cannot join #ubuntu-pl (You are banned). xD
[01:34] <bartek> wtft
[01:34] <ricanelite> because i got the new edgy but when i check about on Firefox it says 1.5
[01:34] <ricanelite> but i know for a fact i installed edgy
[01:34] <Tompu> atk: is the terminal bell enabled in your gnome terminal profile?
[01:34] <Sethwm2> Then just download 2.0 and install
[01:34] <Toaster54> Hey
[01:34] <blisz> my gnome toolbar is gone :S how can i fix that? please help me
[01:34] <atk> Tompu: it is
[01:34] <Toaster54> Could someone please tell me why my firefox 2.0 is always crashing on ubuntu (edgy) ?
[01:35] <atk> Tompu: I do get visual bell
[01:35] <ricanelite> okay, now my thing is im new to linux so how can i install firefox
[01:35] <syock> I wish I knew what was running on the background. My disk was acting so erratically
[01:35] <marco_> no su azzurra
[01:35] <Tompu> atk: final question, does your system beep during the POST test at startup?
[01:35] <ricanelite> i have it downloaded to my desktop which is firefox-2.0.tar.gz
[01:35] <bartek> omg i will kil my bro for thah I'm bane in bubntu.pl grrr
[01:35] <Raskall> hmm.. should I dist-upgrade my server? last time I got a hell with the init-files for postfix
[01:35] <bartek> any way thc and cya
[01:35] <blisz> my gnome toolbar is gone :S how can i fix that? help please
[01:35] <Sethwm2> Untar it to the desktop
[01:35] <atk> Tompu: it beeps when asking a boot up password so i'd assume that is during the POST test
[01:36] <Sethwm2> then change the directory to the folder that un tared
[01:36] <kike> gnomefreak,
[01:36] <kike> kike@kike-laptop:/$ sudo find / -name 'backup.tgz' -print
[01:36] <kike> /root/.Trash/backup.tgz
[01:36] <Sethwm2> in the terminal
[01:36] <kike> thank you erUSUL
[01:36] <Sethwm2> and then the install command
[01:36] <TankEnMate> here's a tricky question, i recently disconnected my keyboard by accident, when i reconnected it udev didn't recreate the device.. and I can't see why not. i had to reconnect the device by hand using mknod
[01:36] <Tompu> atk: thats good enough :). can you double click your volume icon and open the 'advanced' volume properties
[01:37] <Khamael> does ext3 ever need a "defrag"?
[01:37] <TankEnMate> the device appears in /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1
[01:37] <Tompu> atk: edit/preferences and see if your system speaker has a volume control
[01:37] <TankEnMate> is it the i8042 driver not sending an add event to hotplug?
[01:37] <kike> gnomefreak, thanks for your patiente, :*****
[01:37] <kike> i made it!
[01:37] <kike> :D
[01:37] <Tompu> atk: mine is called 'PC Speaker'
[01:38] <atk> Tompu: There's no such thing
[01:38] <Toaster54> Could someone please tell me why my firefox 2.0 is always crashing on ubuntu (edgy)  and how do i downgrade firefox again?
[01:38] <Xk2c> Toaster54: how many plugins?
[01:38] <Toaster54> 3
[01:38] <TankEnMate> Toaster: have you got the nonfree-flashplugon on your machine?
[01:39] <TankEnMate> plugin even?
[01:39] <Toaster54> yea
[01:39] <Xk2c> Toaster54: which?
[01:39] <Toaster54> wait a minute
[01:39] <blisz> my gnome toolbar is gone :S how can i fix that? help please
[01:39] <Sethwm2> You must not use it much if you forgot the name
[01:39] <Sethwm2> lol
[01:39] <Sethwm2> :-D
[01:39] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, gksudo gedit /usr/bin/firefox
[01:39] <Webspot> Could anyone tell me an app that would be able to go through all of my music files and normalize them?
[01:39] <abo> when I'm starting eclipse, it's taking 99%of the cpu even after it finishes loading and is not supposed to be doing anything, any new bugs reported?
[01:39] <Xk2c> Toaster54: try this  $ firefox -ProfileManager
[01:39] <Xk2c> Toaster54: there create a clean profile
[01:39] <Toaster54> adblock plus, filterset updater for it, fireftp,  session manager and mr tech local install
[01:39] <Tompu> atk: running out of ideas here. open a terminal and run alsamixer
[01:40] <atk> Tompu: Couldn't find it there either
[01:40] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, then just before the exec at the bottom line add this "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1"
[01:40] <Xk2c> Toaster54: then use it with: $ firefox -P PROFILENAME
[01:40] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, you may find that might fix the problem
[01:40] <blisz> my gnome toolbar is gone :S how can i fix that? help please!
[01:40] <Xk2c> Toaster54: and check if it still chrashes
[01:40] <leafw> is there any way to disable the wifi card, to save battery power?
[01:40] <atk> Tompu: I'm puzzled too. I even made new user that has audio permissions so that old settings wouldn't bother but it didn't work
[01:40] <Toaster54> But i cant just throw away my profile, i would loose all passwords and cookies and so on
[01:41] <TankEnMate> blisz, toolbar? do you mean the panel at the top of the screen?
[01:41] <Zyfo> I got this while installing Tilda, I did install vte before: http://pastie.caboo.se/20129 What's wrong? :o
[01:41] <Toaster54> TankEnMate: how can i do that with the bottom line and exec and so on?
[01:41] <Xk2c> Toaster54: thats why we cretae a new one for testing
[01:41] <blisz> yes TankEnMate
[01:41] <Toaster54> ah ok
[01:41] <Tompu> atk: try running this:
[01:41] <Xk2c> Toaster54: your "old" profile will still be there
[01:41] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, gksudo gedit /usr/bin/firefox
[01:41] <Tompu> atk: lsmod | grep pcspkr
[01:41] <atk> Tompu: the module is loaded
[01:42] <TankEnMate> blisz, you need to add a panel.. is the bottom panel still there?
[01:42] <Tompu> atk: sounds like you're ahead of me here
[01:42] <blisz> TankEnMate: there is nothing
[01:42] <Toaster54> Ok ill try it with the new profile
[01:42] <blisz> im on a xgl session
[01:42] <atk> Tompu: heh. I did check that earlier and rechecked it now
[01:42] <TankEnMate> blisz, nothing on the bottom?
[01:42] <blisz> nothing
[01:43] <TankEnMate> blisz, right, in a shell type "ps aux | egrep panel"
[01:43] <blisz> cant open a shell
[01:43] <blisz> it was in the panel
[01:43] <blisz> :S
[01:44] <Tompu> atk: is the speaker represented by a /dev node?
[01:44] <blisz> ok
[01:44] <blisz> got a shell
[01:44] <TankEnMate> blisz, time to make a cutom launcher
[01:44] <TankEnMate> blisz, okies.. :)
[01:44] <Toaster54> Ok ill first try TankEnMates way
[01:44] <blisz> there is
[01:44] <blisz> 2 things
[01:44] <Khamael> what repo contains w32codecs?
[01:44] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, after you save your changes it will make a back up file of /usr/bin/firefox.. make sure you keep that safe :)
[01:45] <blisz> gnome-panel
[01:45] <TankEnMate> blisz, well the panel program is running, it would seem it just has lost its config for any panels..
[01:45] <blisz> what can i do?
[01:46] <Tompu> atk: im thinking you might have a permissions issue with the /dev node that represents it. i think it might be /dev/input/event1, but this is an unsubstantiated guess
[01:46] <Toaster54> Hmm ok, anyways its only one line, i could reverse that myself
[01:46] <atk> Tompu: in general or on my computer? I don't what it should be but I didn't any suitable candidates by grepping pc, spkr, speaker
[01:46] <TankEnMate> blisz, okies... this will give you back a default panel if there isn't any bugs at issue, is that ok?
[01:46] <blisz> ok
[01:46] <atk> Tompu: crw-rw----  1 root root 13,  65 2006-10-29 14:05 event1
[01:46] <sutur> hi, does anybody know news about the easyubuntu project? is there a a seperate version for edgy? http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ has been offline for several days now.
[01:46] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, ok.. if you do a google search on the environment variable you should see articles about it onthe web
[01:47] <atk> Tompu: does that sound it's ok?
[01:47] <TankEnMate> blisz, in a shell type the following..
[01:47] <Toaster54> Hmm ok, ill do that later
[01:47] <Tompu> atk: matches mine (which works)
[01:47] <tiger_it> Somone can explain me the diference between:  find path file -name 'file'  and   find path file -name file (without '') ????
[01:48] <buzzy> !jre
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <buzzy> !java
[01:48] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:48] <savvas> isn't it sun-java5-bin ?
[01:48] <salim> where can I set the minimum throttle for my cpu-frequency
[01:48] <Toaster54> Well, the Variable thing doesn't work.
[01:48] <TankEnMate> blisz, $ rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel ; cp -r /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/panel ~/.gconf/apps
[01:48] <Toaster54> It still crashes
[01:48] <atk> Tompu: oh well, I'll try harder searching the internet. Thanks for your help!
[01:48] <TankEnMate> blisz, then restart the gnome-panel process with kill -1
[01:49] <Toaster54> Now ill try Xk2cs way
[01:49] <erider> hi Toaster54
[01:49] <Toaster54> hi
[01:49] <NantesThisNight> hi again
[01:50] <CaTTiusha> hi all :)
[01:50] <JoshuaW> Hello :P
[01:50] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, its almost certainly somethign in your profile then..
[01:50] <Zyfo> I got this while installing Tilda, I did install vte before: http://pastie.caboo.se/20129 What's wrong? :o
[01:50] <dwango> Wow, I just killed firefox and Xorg's memory usage dropped from 450MB to 45MB
[01:50] <Toaster54> You mean, like the plugins?
[01:50] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, possibly..
[01:50] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, or possibly some cruft..
[01:50] <Tompu> atk: no worries. sorry we couldnt solve it
[01:50] <koraman> !!!! i need help about games in kubuntu 6.10 ... !!!!
[01:50] <TankEnMate> blisz, how you going?
[01:51] <blisz> bad
[01:51] <blisz> look the qery
[01:51] <TankEnMate> blisz, which query?
[01:51] <koraman> SLOVAKIA
[01:51] <Toaster54> umm a what?
[01:51] <TheColonial> guys, can someone please give me some advice on a SATA timeout issue please?
[01:51] <abo> everytime I upgrade an Ubuntu version, it's a headache to get the website's video to work, and everytime some that used to work, doesn't anymore
[01:51] <blisz> i opened one to you
[01:51] <abo> can anyone help me setting up BBC video (and other websites) please?
[01:51] <blisz> `/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/panel' doesnt exist
[01:51] <TankEnMate> oh my client didnt pick it up.. i'm using a client im not really familiar with..
[01:52] <Tompu> abo: i'd suggest automatix
[01:52] <TankEnMate> blisz, ahhh!! no wonder you have lost your panel then...
[01:52] <TankEnMate> blisz, thats not such a good thing..
[01:52] <abo> Tompu, just do, sudo automatix?
[01:52] <blisz> :/
[01:52] <blisz> why disappeared?
[01:52] <TankEnMate> umm yeah.. it should defenitely be there..
[01:53] <blisz> what can i do?
[01:53] <TankEnMate> blisz, you are using ubuntu and not kubuntu or xubuntu?
[01:53] <blisz> ubuntu
[01:53] <blisz> with xgl beryl
[01:53] <Tompu> abo: www.getautomatix.com
[01:53] <abo> Tompu, it says automatix does not work on Edgy
[01:53] <TankEnMate> blisz, i quick reinstall of a package should fix it.. hold on i'll find the right package for you...
[01:53] <alitis4> automatix rulez
[01:53] <atk> Tompu: I'm guessing the problem is quite low level, maybe even the hardware blocks it for some reason (I did check bios, there was no speaker on/off option). Kinda hard to solve this kind of problems.
[01:54] <blisz> thanks TankEnMate
[01:54] <Bogaurd> has anyone configure pure-ftpd under ubuntu?
[01:54] <blisz> i'll brb
[01:54] <Bogaurd> configured*
[01:54] <Tompu> abo: I used it today. It worked fine. The page is out of date. There are install instructions on the Install page
[01:55] <Tompu> atk: do you have windows installed on the same machine?
[01:55] <deadhobo> Anyone here have a Alienware 51-M or worked on one? I can't get X to work with the nvidia driver and I think I need to use modelines, but I don't know what they are...
[01:55] <atk> Tompu: hell no! ;)
[01:56] <Tompu> atk: well, thats good. but windows likes to talk through the system speaker if you disable all other sound devices, which is an occasionally useful way to test the system speaker is available for use
[01:56] <sharyari> elo
[01:56] <n1gke> marcin_ant, you still here ?
[01:56] <Tompu> atk: are you using a custom kernel?
[01:57] <sharyari> I just installed ati-drivers on a clean ubuntu-install, but now when I login with GDM, my system freezes after a few moments
[01:57] <psj> hello
[01:57] <david_> I'm trying to add a new partition into my fstab, this is what i put, /dev/hdb3	/media/hdb3	vfat	defaults	0	1, everything i've read says this should work, but it doesn't, can someone help?
[01:57] <atk> Tompu: standard ubuntu kernel
[01:57] <ufk3> hiya
[01:57] <TankEnMate> blisz, sorry about the delay.. slow disk.. you need to install gconf2-common
[01:58] <FRET> david_, are you sure about hdb3?
[01:58] <ufk3> is there a package for mplayer? or how can i view wmv movies?
[01:58] <psj> any have same problem when running glxinfo? 'libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b' i have matrox g550
[01:58] <FRET> david_, and have you created that folder in /media?
[01:58] <david_> yes, i looked at my pARTITION TABLE'
[01:58] <atk> Tompu: I don't have space on my hd to test install windows and even if I did, I'm too lazy to do install windows just for that reason.
[01:59] <david_> oh, i need to do that, i thought it automatically did that when it mounted
[01:59] <david_> slap me in the face with a wet fish
[01:59] <david_> I'll go try that
[01:59] <david_> hehe
[01:59] <TankEnMate> blisz, sudo apt-get install --reinstall gconf2-common
[02:00] <sharyari> he asked for it :)
[02:00] <Kawaii-Panda> hmm... wonder why i cannot motivate myself to read a linux ebook again...
[02:00] <Tompu> atk: it's a bit of an extreme 'fix'. i think the drawbacks vastly outweigh any advantages
[02:01] <TankEnMate> bbl
[02:01] <JosefK> anyone know how to prioritise plugins in firefox 2?  I'd rather realplayer picked up rtsp streams instead of having totem choke on them
[02:01] <Bogaurd> has anyone configured pure-ftpd under ubuntu?
[02:01] <hakrzcode> @FRET When david comes back, remind him about the users option in fstab, or he will be complaining about permissions
[02:02] <psj> anoney have same problem when running glxinfo? 'libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b' i have matrox g550?
[02:02] <jrib> JosefK: try 'touch'ing the realplayer plugin files in your plugin folder
[02:02] <FRET> hakrzcode, I'd not recommend the user option by default.
[02:03] <hakrzcode> Why not?
[02:03] <JosefK> jrib: hmm, they're in /usr/lib but the modified dates are far behind the totem ones, thanks
[02:03] <JosefK> jrib: impressive, thanks a lot :)
[02:03] <jrib> JosefK: np
[02:04] <LoliTa18> hi
[02:04] <syock> That`s not fair. I get to use SCIM in ooffice but not in firefox32. Why doesn`t that locale problem occur for ooffice?
[02:05] <_polto__> hello
[02:05] <_polto__> i write 10 cameras stream to a RAID5 (4 disks) on a bi-Xeon server. The problem is what loadavg is @ 10 and more. Normaly this type of recording make a loadavg of 0.6! kblockd is always up in top and eat 60% cpu time
[02:06] <Zyfo> I got this while installing Tilda, I did install vte before: http://pastie.caboo.se/20129 What's wrong? :o
[02:06] <pir4> i need repositorys for Ubuntu 6.10 (AMD64) , ive been trying to download things like w32codec and tuxracer without succeses. thx !
[02:06] <philwhln> afternoon. I have a question about wired / wireless. I'm using Network Manager and it appears I can only use either wireless or wired, but not both at the same time. Is this true?
[02:06] <augustin> I need automake 1.7 but when I install automake via apt-get install automake, there is just automake1.4 (1.4-p6-9)
[02:06] <augustin> !automake
[02:06] <thoreauputic> pir4: by definition, w32codecs won't work in 64 bit
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <hakrzcode> syock: What locale problem? Scim behaves quite nicely for me.
[02:06] <pir4> thoreauputic, wut ? u sure?
[02:06] <thoreauputic> pir4: they are *32 bit*
[02:07] <jrib> augustin: install the automake-1.7 package, there is up to 1.9 that I can see
[02:07] <pir4> thoreauputic, so how ppl with amd64 watch divx or wmv ?
[02:07] <syock> hakrzcode: Firefox running on linux32. I don`t have any other 32-bit app to test
[02:07] <augustin> jrib: so why apt-get install automake does not automatically install the newest version?
[02:07] <thoreauputic> pir4: I assume either they make a 32 bit chroot, or they don't watch them
[02:07] <jrib> augustin: there is no automake package
[02:08] <jrib> !info automake1.7
[02:08] <ubotu> automake1.7: A tool for generating GNU Standards-compliant Makefiles. In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.9-9 (edgy), package size 382 kB, installed size 1292 kB
[02:08] <hakrzcode> oic, you are 64bit?
[02:08] <phatmonkey> i want to compile a newer version of jackd from source, but the ubuntu version has loads of dependencies. what's the best way to do this? force removing the ubuntu packages ignoring the dependencies? installing the new version to a different path? installing the new version over the ubuntu version?
[02:08] <Khamael> is easyubuntu down?
[02:08] <justifier> yes
[02:08] <syock> yup. Okay, gyachi doesn`t support locale too
[02:08] <cherubiel> augustin: try apt-cache search automake; should list out the packages avaiable.. btw, are you on dapper?
[02:08] <augustin> cherubiel: yep
[02:09] <pir4> im trying to run armyops from his directory and im getting this : exec: 50: ./armyops-bin: not found ... any idea?
[02:09] <augustin> cherubiel: I've just installed 1.9 it's ok
[02:09] <cherubiel> good augustin
[02:10] <chrisbudden14> im using edgy, but i get no virtual terminal with ctrl-alt f1 ,f2 etc
[02:10] <cherubiel> pir4: you don't seem to have the binaries in the current folder
[02:10] <chrisbudden14> just a corrupt display
[02:10] <pir4> cherubiel, its a binary installer
[02:10] <pir4> cherubiel, that cant be :s thats the thing
[02:12] <david_> I got a new partition to mount, but i can't write to it as a normal user, this my fstab line /dev/hdb3 /media/hdb3 vfat defaults 0 1
[02:12] <david_> can someone help?
[02:12] <cherubiel> david_:  rw,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[02:12] <cherubiel> david_: repalce defaults with what i pasted
[02:12] <cherubiel> and mount again
[02:12] <abo> david_, if you do "ls -l /media | grep hdb3" what do you get
[02:13] <djuuss> pir4: type > sh army-ops.bin
[02:13] <hakrzcode> FRET: David is back, and he is having permissions problems.
[02:13] <david_> how do i know what to put for umask and gid and those things
[02:13] <cherubiel> david_: dude, use what i pasted.
[02:13] <hakrzcode> david: I would change defaults to defaults,user
[02:13] <david_> I looked on the internet but all i could find was a list off options
[02:13] <jrib> !vfat > david_
[02:14] <jrib> but what cherubiel said looks good david_
[02:14] <FRET> david_, use defaults,uid=<your user id>
[02:14] <Orta> Hello
[02:14] <FRET> hakrzcode, I think that this is much more safe
[02:14] <david_> ok, but i am new. i want learn what it means
[02:14] <cherubiel> david_: you should readup more; man mount
[02:14] <FRET> hakrzcode, defaults,uid=<your user id>
[02:14] <david_> ok
[02:15] <jrib> david_: the link ubotu sent you to should explain some basics, also type 'man fstab' in a terminal and I'll send you the fstab link to
[02:15] <jrib> !fstab > david_
[02:15] <hakrzcode> david: uid=david, or whatever your login name is, will give you ownership.
[02:15] <FRET> david_, it means that the partition is mounted with the permissions set to the user with the specified uid
[02:15] <deadhobo> I'm guessing that
[02:15] <Pensacola> is the installation of the nvidia drivers in edgy the same as in dapper?
[02:15] <jrib> ubotu: tell Pensacola about nvidia
[02:15] <FRET> david_, you can get it by typing "id" in a terminal
[02:15] <phiphi076> probleme de sources list
[02:16] <coz_> Pensacola, no not if you use the beta nvidia driver
[02:16] <hakrzcode> ok FRET, not dismissing. I usually only use vfats for sharing with windows.
[02:16] <FRET> david_, maybe read the mount manpage
[02:16] <deadhobo> "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X log file..." is bad
[02:16] <hakrzcode> but, then again, I got rid of that virus a year ago.
[02:16] <xroach> could someone help me with edgy problm
[02:16] <FRET> hakrzcode, :-)
[02:16] <coz_> xroach, I will try what is the problem
[02:16] <david_> wow thats a lot to read, ill be back in a while
[02:16] <Pensacola> i installed the nvidia-glx package and changed the driver from nv to nvidia in xorg.conf
[02:16] <cherubiel> !fr | phiphi076
[02:16] <ubotu> phiphi076: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:16] <Pensacola> is that right?
[02:16] <javaJake> Hello everyone. I'm using an ATI Radeon M6 LY card [Radeon 9000]  with direct rendering enabled, but the screen goes TV-scroll-like every so often. Is there a way to debug or fix this?
[02:16] <jrib> Pensacola: should work
[02:16] <phiphi076> merci
[02:17] <Pensacola> ok thx
[02:17] <theplatypus> Probably a stupid question but anyway. When running the command "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential xinetd" do I replace 'uname-r' with 2.6.15-27-386 if that is the kernel being used?
[02:17] <phiphi076> nueubi
[02:17] <cherubiel> theplatypus: the shell does that for you.
[02:17] <coz_> theplatypus, that would help
[02:17] <coz_> but yes that will done for you
[02:17] <hakrzcode> theplatypus: that is the replacement.
[02:17] <FRET> david_, you dont have to read everything, but have a look at the mount options
[02:18] <coz_> xroach, are you still there?
[02:18] <hakrzcode> gtg.. gf pulling my strings..
[02:18] <cherubiel> ;)
[02:18] <theplatypus> cherubiel : so it will be replaced automagically?
[02:18] <xroach> I had 6.06 installed in laptop then upgaded to edgy but it didnt succes ,so now im instlaling edgy from cd and it just gives me a black screen after the "ubuntu loading " thing, and the cd works and i've tried several cd,s
[02:18] <tobias> I'm having problems with alsa sound in my acer notebook... think alsa 1.0.13 solves.. anybody have the packages?
[02:18] <cherubiel> theplatypus: yes, try echo hello`uname -r`
[02:18] <Mulama> Hello, I have problem with LVM, i can't found what i do wrong:( there is log http://counting.xf.cz/id2964.html :(
[02:18] <deadhobo> I don't want to sound like an impatient jerk here, but am I silenced or is everyone just busy?
[02:18] <JoshuaW> BUsy
[02:19] <JoshuaW> Busy*
[02:19] <Zyfo> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-applications/23574-tilda.html <- I get the same error as the 2 guys there, any idea what the prob could be?
[02:19] <jrib> deadhobo: we can hear you, no one has noticed/no one knows how to help you
[02:19] <xroach> and i've tried with noapic nolapic acpi=off
[02:19] <coz_> xroach, you may want to recongifure the X11.xorg.conf file
[02:19] <javaJake> Mulama: I cannot help you, but I thought you should know your link doesn't work. :)
[02:19] <MaxPayne> ^^
[02:19] <marten_71> hello is there anyone that have tried compiz
[02:19] <Pensacola> hmh my fps are much lower than in dapper :s
[02:19] <deadhobo> JoshuaW: Thanks for responding :). I asked a question or two over the last day and nothing happened, just wanted to be sure I wasn't doing something wrong
[02:19] <javaJake> marten_71: And failed? yep.
[02:19] <javaJake> :D
[02:20] <esaym> hey when fdisk is forced to run due to an unclean unmount, where does it log info too?
[02:20] <marten_71> javajake to bad it looks cool
[02:20] <javaJake> marten_71: Well, you'd need 3D working first. Then goto UbuntuGuide.com
[02:20] <xroach> I had 6.06 installed in laptop then upgaded to edgy but it didnt succes ,so now im instlaling edgy from cd and it just gives me a black screen after the "ubuntu loading " thing, and the cd works and i've tried several cd,s
[02:20] <Tompu> marten_71: i used compiz on my gentoo machine for a few weeks before i switched to ubuntu
[02:20] <javaJake> marten_71: It only works with ATI or NVidia cards, I believe....
[02:21] <coz_> xroach, i am trying to pm you is your nic registered.?
[02:21] <Tompu> compiz is wildly overrated. it's fun for a little while, but its just so greedy with the cpu
[02:21] <javaJake> xroach: Have you checked the CD?
[02:21] <javaJake> xroach: Using the "Check the CD" menu?
[02:21] <coz_> Tompu then try beryl
[02:21] <xroach> coz_ no it isnt :(
[02:21] <killown> I load module sundance for my card network encore  but when I try ifconfig eth1 not found it  I have other card via rhine as eth0  how I do to load eth1?
[02:21] <coz_> xroach, ok well it will be difficult in here
[02:21] <bones> ....
[02:21] <coz_> xroach, do you know how to recongifure the xorg
[02:22] <xroach> coz_ whats the link for registering?
[02:22] <gnarlie> what a teeny channel
[02:22] <javaJake> I'm using an ATI Radeon M6 LY card [Radeon 9000]  with direct rendering enabled, but the screen goes TV-scroll-like every so often. Is there a way to debug or fix this?
[02:22] <marten_71> javajake and Tompu thanks
[02:22] <gnarlie> can one count on ntfsresize to work?
[02:22] <pir4> when i try to run army ops it give me this problem: #!/bin/sh
[02:22] <pir4> # description: Starts and stops America's Army Server
[02:22] <pir4> #
[02:22] <pir4> ARMYOPS_DATA_PATH="/usr/local/games/armyops/System/" ; (change to your dir)
[02:22] <pir4> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.:${ARMYOPS_DATA_PATH}:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
[02:22] <javaJake> marten_71: NP
[02:22] <pir4> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH  anyone knows what is it ?
[02:22] <jrib> !paste | pir4
[02:22] <cherubiel> gnarlie: gparted
[02:22] <ubotu> pir4: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:22] <javaJake> !paste | pir4
[02:22] <coz_> xroach, well as i remember it it is "/msg register" in here
[02:22] <gnarlie> cherubiel: hmm
[02:22] <javaJake> Oops... beat me to it
[02:22] <xroach> coz_ yes but how can i do it in the installing process?
[02:23] <MilanTux> hi all
[02:23] <gnarlie> cherubiel: is it on the ubuntu install iso?
[02:23] <Orta> Recently I installed 6.06. I updated to edgy, when doing that the computer crashed in the screensaver. When I turn the computer back on it said that Xserver  (or something like that) was broken and it gave me a broken black and white text login screen. I reinstalled 6.06 and when I ran the updater it crashed again. Now there is the computer and trash icons on the desktop and when I go to certain adminstration programs like Update manger an
[02:23] <Orta> d synaptic package manger it ethers gives me weird warnings and lets me use it or says I can't because I have another adminstartion program running (which I don't).
[02:23] <Orta> sorry for all that
[02:23] <coz_> xroach,  well if you are using the live cd then no you would have to use the alternative cd for that
[02:23] <coz_> xroach, but you can recongigure it now on the system that is not working
[02:23] <MedivhX> is there any problem to solve?
[02:23] <Pensacola> why does ubuntu default install the 686 image in stead of the 386?
[02:24] <coz_> xroach, so you have the nvidia drivers installed/
[02:24] <cherubiel> pir4: it lets you set a list of directories to searcg for libraries, before the standard ones are ysed
[02:24] <deadhobo> Omfg, I'm seriously about to throw my laptop out the window... the nvidia driver dosn't want to work at any screen resolution
[02:24] <theplatypus> Call me crazy, but with all of the problems people are having upgrading why don't hey wait
[02:24] <xroach> coz_ can u w8 until i reg so its easier then?
[02:24] <coz_> xroach, ok
[02:24] <MedivhX> is it nv driver or nvidia driver?
[02:24] <gnarlie> MedivhX: nvidia
[02:24] <javaJake> theplatypus: I'd say Ubuntu needs to lengthen their Release Schedule to fit more testing in. :|
[02:24] <javaJake> Does everyone agree that Ubuntu needs to lengthen their Release Schedule to fit more testing in?
[02:25] <MedivhX> 9*** or 8***
[02:25] <Raskall> no more free CD's of ubuntu. :( Really not a problem with my 6 mbit dsl, but it IS easier to convert people with a branded cd than a home-burned one.
[02:25] <shuan> hi
[02:25] <javaJake> Raskall: You _can_ pay.
[02:25] <Adriano> I'd say less people should use automatix/easyubuntu, but hey, talk is free
[02:25] <MedivhX> yep
[02:25] <shuan> i'm trying to make my home icon, recycle bin, file system icons on my desktop
[02:25] <shuan> anyone know how
[02:25] <deadhobo> I think that nvidia needs to release their drivers as open source, and I know everyone agrees there
[02:25] <Adriano> shuan:
[02:25] <javaJake> Adriano: Why?
[02:25] <gnarlie> deadhobo: who cares?
[02:26] <AnAnt> is there an Edgy DVD that is going to be released ?
[02:26] <shuan> Adiano: yes?
[02:26] <Adriano> shuan: they're configurable thru gconf-editor
[02:26] <rock_> totem says it cannoy play mp3 what do i need ?
[02:26] <Raskall> javaJake: I know. :) but I won't. I'm not working with linux any more, so my level of missionary work has dropped drastically.
[02:26] <Zyfo> how do I restart an application?
[02:26] <MedivhX> it's always better if it's oss
[02:26] <javaJake> AnAnt: Yea
[02:26] <Zyfo> a
[02:26] <shuan> k
[02:26] <coz_> AnAnt, there is one alrady
[02:26] <deadhobo> gnarlie: People who want 3d support without having to go in console... or people like me who can't get it to work at all
[02:26] <AnAnt> coz_: where ?
[02:26] <MedivhX> community can edit it
[02:26] <gnarlie> anyone know if gparted is on the 6.10 install image?
[02:26] <coz_> AnAnt, hold on
[02:26] <MedivhX> and make it better
[02:26] <Adriano> javaJake: http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/259-It-was-always-known.html
[02:26] <Adriano> shuan: gimme a sec
[02:26] <coz_> AnAnt, here you go http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/release/
[02:27] <hitman> anyone types in swedish?
[02:27] <gnarlie> hitman: sure
[02:27] <hitman> bra
[02:27] <Raskall> hitman: is norwegian close enough?
[02:27] <shuan> Adriano: ok
[02:27] <Adriano> shuan: open gconf-editor, go to apps->nautilus->desktop
[02:27] <hitman> det duger
[02:28] <javaJake> Adriano: But it isn't always the user's fault. You can't just say "Ubuntu is invincible if you don't mess with it" and then drop everyone's bug reports about their system crashing after upgrade
[02:28] <gnarlie> hitman: hur s?
[02:28] <Raskall> hitman: men jeg tror ikke det er populrt  skrive annet enn engelsk her.
[02:28] <hitman> pm
[02:28] <javaJake> Adriano: The crashing is a sign of either Ubuntu's weakness, or Debian's as a whole.
[02:28] <Raskall> hitman: finnes det ikke en #ubuntu-se?
[02:28] <shuan> Adriano: yes
[02:28] <oka> #ubuntu.se
[02:28] <hf_linux> hello all
[02:28] <javaJake> hf_linux: Hey
[02:28] <Raskall> hitman: #ubuntu-se exists with a lot of users
[02:28] <coz_> xroach_, are you getting thepm
[02:28] <hf_linux> good evening
[02:29] <shuan> Adriano: Thanks
[02:29] <pegger> aiglx + beryl for edgy!!! where is it? please a good link
[02:29] <Adriano> javaJake: I guess not,
[02:29] <gnarlie> cherubiel: do you happen to know if gparted is on the install iso?
[02:29] <Toma-> Is there anyway to convert a vfat drive to ext3 without totally destroying everything on the drive?
[02:29] <javaJake> Adriano: You guess not about what?
[02:29] <MedivhX> you want a tut for aiglx + edgy?
[02:29] <gnarlie> Toma-: no
[02:30] <Adriano> About upgrades. But many of those who now complain had a pretty messed-up system, thanks to automatix/etc.
[02:30] <Toma-> i thought so :< thanks
[02:30] <screechingcat> firefox in edgy crashes every time i go to gmail or run a flash animation. how do i fix this ?
[02:30] <visik7> screechingcat: have you nvidia ?
[02:30] <Adriano> I had to do a clean install, and I don't do that stuff
[02:30] <javaJake> screechingcat: If you let Firefox install Flash on its own, things should work
[02:30] <syock> is it just me or is edgy slowing down my PC? so many disk read/write ever since I  upgraded
[02:30] <deadhobo> Ok, hopefully an easy question. The Nvidia driver readme says my card is located at 0x0347... what should I put in the xserver-xorg config? It wants something like "PCI:0:16:0"
[02:30] <javaJake> screechingcat: nvm
[02:30] <MedivhX> beryl on edgy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1536245
[02:30] <Orta> well now for some reason update manger works. Does anyone know how to get rid of the Computer and Trash icons?
[02:30] <javaJake> :P
[02:30] <visik7> beryl is ugly don't use it
[02:31] <mamzers555> i want to start a program from the applications-menu, this program should be startet in terminal. BUT i want to stay this terminal open, if i close the program, how can i do this?
[02:31] <MedivhX> better than compiz
[02:31] <Adriano> but currently, there's no nvidia updated package on Edgy, that after a vuln warning
[02:31] <javaJake> visik7: Why?
[02:31] <visik7> effects are ugly
[02:31] <MedivhX> beryl is cool
[02:31] <MedivhX> nope
[02:31] <Adriano> so the way is to install the nvidia.com one
[02:31] <mamzers555> can somebody tell me the hint
[02:31] <MedivhX> u're wrong
[02:31] <MedivhX> theyre better
[02:31] <pir4> anyone know how to install w32codec in AMD64?
[02:31] <MedivhX> then on compiz
[02:31] <visik7> genius effect for window minimize is horrible
[02:31] <javaJake> visik7: Really..?
[02:31] <Xk2c> pir4: yeap me, its not possible
[02:31] <MedivhX> he tells shit...
[02:31] <visik7> javaJake: I really don't like it
[02:32] <screechingcat> visik7: no nvidia
[02:32] <MedivhX> compiz = shit
[02:32] <MedivhX> beryl rulez!
[02:32] <thoreauputic> pir4: told you ages ago - it's a contradiction in terms
[02:32] <visik7> beryl defaults effects are uglyer than vista's
[02:32] <screechingcat> javaJake: that always fails
[02:32] <javaJake> !language | MedivhX
[02:32] <ubotu> MedivhX: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:32] <MedivhX> oh please
[02:32] <visik7> and more important they are useless
[02:32] <javaJake> MedivhX: Unless you wanna get kicked. :|
[02:32] <deadhobo> so... uh.. nobody has any idea how to use 0x0347 in xorg?
[02:32] <ompaul> !language
[02:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:32] <MedivhX> ok
[02:32] <syock> pir4: enabled other repositories?
[02:32] <MedivhX> ok
[02:33] <EdgeT> Hey ppl, are WiFi keys still not supported by linux?
[02:33] <javaJake> deadhobo: Eh?
[02:33] <screechingcat> javaJake: what does a flash-firefox install have to do with gmail ?
[02:33] <Adriano> I'd like to know why beta4 of gaim keeps crashing, but I guess it'll remain a mistery.
[02:33] <MedivhX> is ubotu a bot?
[02:33] <andriijas> whats the best app for linux to play around with raw photos?
[02:33] <visik7> EdgeT: they are
[02:33] <thoreauputic> syock: *you can't install w32codecs on amd 64*
[02:33] <ompaul> MedivhX, yes
[02:33] <Adriano> MedivhX: yes
[02:33] <EdgeT> MedivhX yup
[02:33] <MedivhX> ok
[02:33] <javaJake> ROOFL
[02:33] <MedivhX> lol 3 answers
[02:33] <javaJake> ROFL*
[02:33] <ompaul> !nickspam > iXce
[02:33] <deadhobo> javaJake: "
[02:33] <El_Che> andriijas: dcraw + gimp
[02:33] <deadhobo> Whoops, "Ok, hopefully an easy question. The Nvidia driver readme says my card is located at 0x0347... what should I put in the xserver-xorg config? It wants something like "PCI:0:16:0""
[02:33] <andriijas> El_Che: dcraw?
[02:34] <javaJake> deadhobo: Heehee
[02:34] <javaJake> deadhobo: I don't get what the numbers refer too
[02:34] <EdgeT> visik7 so how do we install em plz?
[02:34] <javaJake> to*
[02:34] <iXce> hu?
[02:34] <El_Che> andriijas: sudo apt-get install gimp-dcraw
[02:34] <rysiek|pl> guys, as I can see three of you give an answer to the same question (lots of wasted recources IMHO ;) ), why don't you split up and help me in this:
[02:34] <MedivhX> anyone from serbia???
[02:34] <javaJake> deadhobo: nvm
[02:34] <deadhobo> javaJake: It wants "the bus identifier"
[02:34] <ompaul> iXce, please read the message from Ubotu
[02:34] <javaJake> deadhobo: Yea... that should be found via lspci
[02:34] <syock> thoreauputic: but i have it on my ubuntu. how `d it get there?
[02:34] <javaJake> deadhobo: Or Device Manager.
[02:34] <visik7> EdgeT: install wifi keys ? with iwconfig ?
[02:35] <iXce> ompaul : i read it
[02:35] <deadhobo> javaJake: How do I run that? My X is down...
[02:35] <thoreauputic> syock: are you running the amd64 version?
[02:35] <javaJake> deadhobo: Ah
[02:35] <rysiek|pl> I have just managed to rm -rf /etc/ssl/ (now don't you *even ASK* how). how can I reinstall openssl so the config's are back on their places
[02:35] <visik7> EdgeT: what do you mean with wifi-keys ? the usbone ?
[02:35] <Xyphosura> does anyone have experience with 3d acceleration with the open source radeon drivers? did it work? Can i have 3d on my ati radeon 9250 pro?
[02:35] <thoreauputic> syock: of ubuntu I mean
[02:35] <EdgeT> nope
[02:35] <deadhobo> javaJake: I can bring it back up if I have to.. just have to switch the drivers around
[02:35] <EdgeT> visik7 the usb wifi keys
[02:35] <visik7> yes usb
[02:35] <iXce> i'm not using away msgs, and my nick did not change more than 2 times afaik
[02:35] <EdgeT> yeah
[02:35] <syock> thoreauputic: yup. I think I may have force installed it while installinng m,player
[02:35] <visik7> EdgeT: depend on the chip
[02:36] <visik7> EdgeT: which is your model ?
[02:36] <syock> argh PC so errac\c
[02:36] <javaJake> deadhobo: No... lspci should work
[02:36] <EdgeT> well i have an ovislink
[02:36] <mamzers555> how to start a program from the menu in with terminal AND that the terminal stays open?
[02:36] <thoreauputic> syock: erm, are you saying you have w32codecs actually working on 64 bit? Sounds impossible
[02:36] <ramen> how do i install ubuntu if the one in the repository does not work?
[02:36] <ramen> how do install AZUREUS?
[02:36] <javaJake> deadhobo: The equivilant to Ubuntu's Device Manager for terminal is lshal (pipe it to less).
[02:36] <ramen> not ubuntu
[02:36] <ramen> sorry
[02:37] <LjL> ramen, what repository does not work?
[02:37] <thoreauputic> ramen:  sudo apt-get install azureus
[02:37] <EdgeT> yeah
[02:37] <thoreauputic> !info azureus
[02:37] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 6922 kB, installed size 7780 kB
[02:37] <visik7> EdgeT: vendor and product please be more specific
[02:37] <mamzers555> ramen, you can download the package and start it from a directory if you like
[02:37] <rysiek|pl> well, anyone?
[02:37] <ramen> Whenever i try to install from add/remove programs, azureus does not work.
[02:37] <dudawifi> Buenas, para quemar cds y dejarlos abiertos para volver a grabar mas datos mas tarde con ubuntu????
[02:37] <ramen> it starts up and then crashes
[02:37] <LookTJ> what is the name of jsdk in synaptic?
[02:37] <javaJake> ramen: this is one of the not so great places to get support for Ubuntu, let alone another distro.
[02:37] <marten_71> !compiz
[02:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:37] <EdgeT> visik sel plz
[02:37] <EdgeT> sec*
[02:37] <javaJake> ramen: If you run azureus in the terminal, it should give you output
[02:37] <thoreauputic> ramen: do you have sun java installed ?
[02:38] <ramen> yes
[02:38] <W_McL> hi
[02:38] <ramen> JRE 5 right?
[02:38] <javaJake> thoreauputic: If he didn't, it wouldn't even run. :D
[02:38] <deadhobo> javaJake: Ah, thanks for the explination... I already restored X and I ran the command there. It gave me a completley diffrent address of "01:00.0 VGA Compatible controller: nVidia Corperation..."
[02:38] <javaJake> ramen: Yea
[02:38] <javaJake> deadhobo: That's it
[02:38] <thoreauputic> ramen: have you run  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:38] <javaJake> deadhobo: 01:00 is probably it
[02:38] <LookTJ> ramen: no, jdk
[02:38] <Jesus> 
[02:38] <LookTJ> jdk 1.5
[02:38] <Jesus> HA!
[02:38] <LjL> ramen: perhaps you could try installing the "azureus-gcj" package
[02:38] <syock> is it just me or is something trying to log whatever i`m runnning? I hav e a feeling that my PC`s runnning something else. Am I being malwared?
[02:38] <syock> PC is lagging Let`s see when I get to read this message I just typed
[02:38] <thoreauputic> javaJake: yes, it runs with gcj ( badly, but it runs)
[02:38] <blisz> TankEnMate: i already have gconf2-common installed :S
[02:38] <javaJake> LookTJ: No, you don't need the JDK
[02:38] <javaJake> LookTJ: that's for programmers
[02:39] <javaJake> thoreauputic: Ah
[02:39] <jrib> syock: run 'top'
[02:39] <LookTJ> I am a programmer
[02:39] <LookTJ> -.-
[02:39] <EdgeT> visik7: Ovislink WL-5460USB
[02:39] <javaJake> ramen: OK, here's what we all think: you are running a different version of Java. Not sun java. GC java. So, there are two options.
[02:39] <iXce> !beryl
[02:39] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[02:39] <javaJake> ramen: Install azureus-gcj
[02:39] <deadhobo> javaJake: Thanks, but unfortionatly I guess that wasn't my problem with the nvidia driver :/
[02:40] <ramen> ok
[02:40] <javaJake> ramen: Or run update-alternatives --config java and select the sun-java package as the default
[02:40] <ramen> how do i do that?
[02:40] <dudawifi> hello, for burn multisesion CDs whit ubuntu????
[02:40] <savvas> LookTJ: automatix2 has it in its list
[02:40] <javaJake> deadhobo: What does Xorg.0.log say?
[02:40] <ramen> i mean install azureus-gcj
[02:40] <javaJake> dudawifi: apt-get install k3b
[02:40] <EdgeT> ramen sudo apt-get install azureus-gcj
[02:40] <EdgeT> ?
[02:40] <javaJake> dudawifi: Best burning utility for Linux, IMO
[02:40] <pir4> syock,  theres no repositorys for amd64 with w32codec
[02:40] <LookTJ> savvas: sorry I don't like automatix2
[02:40] <rysiek|pl> m'kay, once more:
[02:40] <rysiek|pl> I have just managed to rm -rf /etc/ssl/ (now don't you *even ASK* how). how can I reinstall openssl so the config's are back on their places
[02:40] <visik7> EdgeT: you need ndiswrapper to get that wifi key work
[02:40] <LjL> !automatix | savvas
[02:40] <ubotu> savvas: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[02:41] <EdgeT> visik what's that?
[02:41] <deadhobo> javaJake: "(EE) Nvidia(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module"
[02:41] <savvas> ..
[02:41] <javaJake> EdgeT, ramen: azureus-gcj should be the last option, really. Let's see if we can update-alternatives instead
[02:41] <syock> pir4: sorry, maybe i did it manually
[02:41] <javaJake> deadhobo: AHA! No GLX module!
[02:41] <W_McL> i got a problem with the filesystem checking at boot up /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh dies with the following error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29084/
[02:41] <visik7> EdgeT: a module that use the windows driver on linux
[02:41] <javaJake> deadhobo: That's the issue. Somehow GLX isn't installed
[02:41] <EdgeT> javaJake sry dude i don't need it
[02:41] <visik7> EdgeT: is your key plugged in ?
[02:41] <EdgeT> k
[02:41] <ramen> ok
[02:41] <EdgeT> and does it work
[02:41] <EdgeT> nope
[02:41] <syock> evil nautilus spawned itself again
[02:41] <syock> no CPU consumiing app running here
[02:41] <visik7> EdgeT: do an lsusb
[02:41] <EdgeT> im on w!nd0z3 now
[02:41] <ramen> how do i update-alternatives?
[02:41] <javaJake> deadhobo: I'm assuming you know how to get GLX installed, right?
[02:42] <javaJake> ramen: Open a terminal
[02:42] <deadhobo> javaJake: Ah, well.. I just ran "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" and it says "0 installed, 0 newly upgraded, 0 to remove, and 4 not upgraded"
[02:42] <visik7> EdgeT: and paste the line about your key
[02:42] <dudawifi> javaJake: Thanks
[02:42] <leafw> aparently slashdot is echoing the cries of a few. I dist-upgraded from dapper 6.06 to edgy yesterday and all was fine (powerpc here)
[02:42] <EdgeT> ramen use the console
[02:42] <ramen> yes....
[02:42] <javaJake> ramen: And run update-alternatives --config java
[02:42] <Jesus> Hi, I need help with reconfiguring my locales. I get a "E: locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid" error trying to enter chroot, and a "Please check that your locale settings [...]  are supported and installed on your system.". Need help!
[02:42] <EdgeT> visik7 in the lsusb thingy?
[02:42] <javaJake> ramen: Select the one with "sun" and "java" in it.
[02:42] <spocky> hi
[02:42] <ramen> ok
[02:42] <visik7> leafw: many ppl has got problem 'couse they use programs like fasterdapper / easyubuntu or automatix that mess your distro
[02:42] <javaJake> Jesus: Run apt-get install --reinstall locales.
[02:42] <visik7> EdgeT: paste the line regard your usb key
[02:43] <ramen> Using `/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java' to provide `java'.
[02:43] <pir4> syock,  how ?
[02:43] <javaJake> Jesus: That could fix it. (It did for me.)
[02:43] <leafw> visik7 : so much for a program that is supposed to make things easier.
[02:43] <ramen> am i doing it right?
[02:43] <Jesus> javaJake: That does nothing for me. :(
[02:43] <EdgeT> visik7 does that thing work every time?
[02:43] <javaJake> ramen: Now run azureus again
[02:43] <visik7> EdgeT: what ?
[02:43] <leafw> by the way, any clue why the cupsd system is burning 4% persistently?
[02:43] <javaJake> Jesus: OK, then I'm out of ideas. :P I don't know enough about locales to help
[02:43] <leafw> makes bad battery management
[02:43] <EdgeT> visik7:  "EdgeT: and paste the line about your key"
[02:44] <Jesus> javaJake: ok, thx anyway.
[02:44] <ramen> nope, it starts up and goes to My torrents, but then after a second it dissapears.
[02:44] <philwhln> does anyone know a good way to control itunes on my mac from ubuntu desktop?
[02:44] <EdgeT> visik7 does that module work every time?
[02:44] <visik7> EdgeT: I ask you to cut and paste the line regarding your key from the lsusb output
[02:44] <javaJake> ramen: Run azureus on the terminal
[02:44] <ramen> how do i do that?
[02:44] <deadhobo> javaJake: Erm... when I try to install nvidia-glx it is "already the newest version"
[02:44] <javaJake> ramen: Like you did update-alternatives
[02:44] <Lattyware> Hey all, After hearing about the problems with updates to 6.10, I decided to back up my partition, but when I try and do so with 'partimage' it tells me I have to unmount the partition, I'm presuming I can't unmount my root partition, so what should I do?
[02:44] <EdgeT> i can't, im on windoze right now
[02:44] <Jesus> Hi, I need help with reconfiguring my locales. I get a "E: locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid" error trying to enter chroot, and a "Please check that your locale settings [...]  are supported and installed on your system.", using, for example dpkg, apt-get etc..
[02:44] <javaJake> ramen: Just run "azureus" in the terminal
[02:44] <leafw> philwhln : what a question. Make your own applescript that runs python that listens from sockets .. good luck
[02:44] <tobias> sombody have the alsa 1.0.13 .deb?
[02:44] <javaJake> deadhobo: No kiddin'...
[02:44] <EdgeT> visik7 i didn't install ubuntu yet, gotta do some stuff before installin it
[02:45] <deadhobo> javaJake: Nope :/
[02:45] <javaJake> deadhobo: Well watcha know. :P
[02:45] <visik7> EdgeT: ssh into your ubuntu box using putty
[02:45] <luisito> !mozilla-plugin
[02:45] <leafw> Lattyware : do so from a livecd
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozilla-plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <wozznik> hi
[02:45] <ramen> ok now it wants me to configure.
[02:45] <Lattyware> ah, that's annoying.
[02:45] <jrib> !mplayer-mozilla
[02:45] <javaJake> deadhobo: OK... so... that isn't the issue, then... hmm...
[02:45] <philwhln> leafw: thank ;) I'll give it a try
[02:45] <EdgeT> visik7 i can't i didn't install it yet
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayer-mozilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <jrib> heh
[02:45] <Lattyware> I'll do it later then.
[02:45] <jrib> luisito: the package is mozilla-mplayer
[02:45] <Lattyware> thankss
[02:45] <javaJake> deadhobo: Is libgl1-mesa-glx installed? :)
[02:45] <luisito> how do I change the default video player for firefox?
[02:45] <visik7> EdgeT: how can I help you if you even haven't  install ubuntu ?
[02:45] <javaJake> deadhobo: I don't know if that'll help, but it is worth a shot
[02:45] <ramen> it works so far
[02:45] <jrib> luisito: have you installed mozilla-mplayer?
[02:45] <ramen> thanks javaJake.
[02:46] <javaJake> ramen: Really!?
[02:46] <ramen> yes
[02:46] <javaJake> ramen: Your kidding me!
[02:46] <EdgeT> visik7 actually i wanna install it tomorrow, cuz i got some stuff to do before
[02:46] <javaJake> ramen: I mean, we basically did the same thing that clicking on that Azureus icon would do.
[02:46] <ramen> :S
[02:46] <dxdemetriou> how can I make check the disk like the: sudo shutdown -F -r now?
[02:46] <dxdemetriou> on edgy?
[02:46] <deadhobo> javaJake: Looks like it is, I ran apt-get install and it returned "4 not upgradeD"
[02:46] <ramen> but Clicking on the icon just made it crash.
[02:46] <ramen> :(
[02:46] <javaJake> ramen: Try running azureus without terminal this time
[02:46] <javaJake> deadhobo: hum
[02:46] <luisito> jrib, yes, but before I installed the gxine plugin and that is the one is launching when a video starts.
[02:46] <jrib> luisito: sudo touch /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*mplayer*            then close all firefox and open again
[02:47] <wozznik> one question: i915 driver card is in edgy?
[02:47] <KenThomson> Sorry to interrupt: I was here before and asked people how to shrink/create/delete partitions of my Current Windows XP Pro HDD (basically for switching to Ubuntu 6.10), and someone suggested GPART live CD. Can i run it from a Windows BOX TOO? And can you suggest some other freeware or otherwise, to resize and repartion my HDD for ubuntu 6.10? I need help on partitioning (and also which filesystem to use, so that Data can be shared between the OSs).
[02:47] <KenThomson> I am having a 40GB PATA. Currently i have C: Drive (NTFS 10GB WINDOWS XP PRO) and D: Drive (NTFS 30GB DATA). Can you tell me how to partition it for Linux, the swap thing and all....the filesystems have got me really confused
[02:47] <rysiek|pl> I have just managed to rm -rf /etc/ssl/ (now don't you *even ASK* how). how can I reinstall openssl so the config's are back on their places
[02:47] <javaJake> deadhobo: I gotta go
[02:47] <javaJake> ramen: I gotta go...
[02:47] <jrib> luisito: also you can just uninstall gxine plugin
[02:47] <ramen> it works w/o terminal
[02:47] <javaJake> Bye everyone
[02:47] <ramen> :D
[02:47] <javaJake> LOL
[02:47] <javaJake> OK
[02:47] <aoupi> rysiek|pl: :/
[02:47] <luisito> jrib, ok, let me try, thanks
[02:47] <deadhobo> JavaDeveloper: W.. nevermind
[02:47] <rysiek|pl> aoupi: ?
[02:47] <tannerld> :about
[02:47] <dxdemetriou> no one knows? how can I make scandisk on edgy after reboot?
[02:47] <aoupi> rysiek|pl: try apt-get remove openssl && apt-get install openssl, I have no idea if it'll work but it's worth a shot
[02:47] <tannerld> oopa
[02:47] <EdgeT> brb
[02:48] <gilnim> kk
[02:48] <rysiek|pl> aoupi: tried aptitude reinstall openssl to no avail, I'll try this too
[02:48] <ripper> is the freecontrib.org plf stuff down?
[02:48] <KenThomson> If someone can help me, i posted my question (above) about partitioning my drive. I will really be grateful. Thank you
[02:48] <daftvader> hi
[02:48] <noelferreira> lupine_85:  are you there?
[02:49] <daftvader> can any one help me find what my X module version is?
[02:49] <lupine_85> yes...
[02:49] <daftvader> apparently nvidia say that it is incompatible with its version
[02:49] <noelferreira> i'm with problems with my rt61 driver again
[02:49] <syock> I`m back. Sorry, I missed pretty much every message since the last post
[02:49] <noelferreira> you helped me and it worked fined
[02:49] <noelferreira> but after reboot
[02:49] <noelferreira> i can't get it working
[02:50] <syock> Like, I `died`ed
[02:50] <noelferreira> i don't know why
[02:50] <luisito> jrib, thank you
[02:50] <lupine_85> is the interface (wlan0) still there?
[02:50] <KenThomson> Linux is so problematic, just the act of starting drives me nuts, and than you guys got so many probs, i cant get this too work, this is incompatible this is that, this is so v.bad :((
[02:50] <noelferreira> yes
[02:50] <noelferreira> iwconfig shows it
[02:50] <noelferreira> but there's no ip
[02:50] <lupine_85> KenThomson: only the people with problems come here ;)
[02:50] <UFO64> heh
[02:50] <Tompu> KenThomson: i have no problems
[02:50] <ramen> Anyone know how to install moblock?
[02:50] <lupine_85> noelferreira: does the access-point show as being associated?
[02:50] <UFO64> i dont have a problem at the moment
[02:50] <KenThomson> you are quite write
[02:50] <KenThomson> right
[02:50] <ripper> lupine_85 do you know if they plf repos on freecontrib.org are gone?
[02:50] <noelferreira> yes
[02:51] <syock> Tompu: cool. You came to help anyone?
[02:51] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell KenThomson about install
[02:51] <lupine_85> ripper: no idea
[02:51] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell KenThomson about dualboot
[02:51] <lupine_85> noelferreira: ok, so what does "sudo dhclient wlan0" do?
[02:51] <AlanHaggai> How can I put my Edgy system to sleep mode?
[02:51] <syock> Who was addressing my drive read/write problem again?
[02:51] <lupine_85> !apm
[02:51] <noelferreira> don't release ip
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <Toma-> does ext3 support online partition resizing?
[02:51] <LjL> KenThomson: the Desktop CD installer is able to repartition the drive automatically during installation, if you instruct it so. just be sure that you do NOT select the "erase entire disk" option, but instead select the option for shriking the current Windows partition to make space
[02:52] <theplatypus> YES! vmware is working great
[02:52] <LjL> KenThomson: it'll take care of creating a swap partition automatically
[02:52] <lupine_85> peculiar...
[02:52] <marten_71> Ken Thomson keep asking sooner or later some one will help you remember all here are here for help or for getting help
[02:52] <lupine_85> the driver is working fine then, it's just a network config issue
[02:52] <AlanHaggai> How can I put my Edgy system to sleep mode?
[02:52] <noelferreira> yes it is
[02:52] <lupine_85> if you statically assign one, does it work?
[02:52] <noelferreira> you resolved it with ap
[02:52] <sorush20> why cd should I use to get live cd login desktop or alternate?
[02:53] <ramen> Does anyone know how to install moblock?
[02:53] <tuskernini> anyone play midi in edgy?
[02:53] <tuskernini> !midi
[02:53] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[02:53] <noelferreira> no it doesn't
[02:53] <KenThomson> LjL: I could really appreciate if you could go over to my post at the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1681150#post1681150, and help me solve the problem. My questions were so specific that i typed a whole page, to get others know better of exactly what i am asking. If you and other experienced users could go over to my forum post and help me get started, i would really be very very grateful
[02:54] <syock> tuskernini: if you like running in terminal, i suggest timidity
[02:54] <noelferreira> lupine_85:  i add this line to /etc/network/interfaces
[02:54] <Z_God> I just upgraded from dapper to edgy & now kdm seems to crash
[02:54] <noelferreira> wireless ap mac
[02:54] <lupine_85> ah...
[02:54] <Z_God> I'm getting a short backtrace
[02:54] <tuskernini> syock,  and if i want to play midi from firefox?
[02:54] <noelferreira> like you sad
[02:54] <lupine_85> it's meant to be "wireless-ap <mac address>"
[02:54] <noelferreira> yes it is
[02:54] <Z_God> could anyone look at it?
[02:55] <lupine_85> where <mac address> is something like: 00:12:BF:14:55:4A
[02:55] <lupine_85> note also that it's wireless-ap not wireless ap
[02:55] <syock> tuskernini: opoo. Never tried that. You mean just as in Windows? hmm....
[02:55] <noelferreira> sure
[02:55] <noelferreira> my acces point
[02:55] <noelferreira> and it worked last time
[02:55] <KenThomson> lupine_85: If you could hope on over to my forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1681150#post1681150, and help me get started, it would really help me. Thank you
[02:55] <lupine_85> !badger
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about badger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <lupine_85> hmm...
[02:55] <tuskernini> syock, dunno, from a website... clicking on a .mid file...
[02:55] <JoshuaW> Can someone help me?
[02:56] <noelferreira> i really don't undersant
[02:56] <lupine_85> noelferreira: by the looks of it, the DHCP implementation on your router is a bit didgy
[02:56] <lupine_85> dodgy*
[02:56] <noelferreira> it was working fine
[02:56] <lupine_85> i.e. it's not letting you have an IP address
[02:56] <tuskernini> syock, i will installl timidity anyway
[02:56] <luisbg> the "ati" diver at xorg.conf is the slow one right?
[02:56] <lupine_85> have you tried clearing the DHCP leases in the router?
[02:56] <syock> tuskernini: i get your point. never found something like that yet. I`ll try to open synaptics again and see if my PC won`t crash
[02:56] <noelferreira> what should i do?
[02:56] <lupine_85> ^^
[02:56] <Z_God> seems I have this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/58326
[02:56] <JoshuaW> I'm having problems getting my DWL-G122 Adapter to work, and one method sent me into having to reinstall :P
[02:56] <Z_God> sorry for the bother
[02:56] <lupine_85> JoshuaW: Revision B1 or C1?
[02:56] <KenThomson> Tompu: if you too could help me get started. I am really confused (comming from a Windows background) about swtiching to Ubuntu. PLease help me get started by answering some of my questions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1681150#post1681150. Thank you for your cooperation
[02:56] <JoshuaW> C1
[02:57] <lupine_85> that's rt73 then
[02:57] <tuskernini> syock, why does your system crash? oops
[02:57] <lupine_85> edgy?
[02:57] <aoupi> KenThomson: partitionmagic is a windows app that can shrink partitions
[02:57] <syock> edgy!!
[02:57] <JoshuaW> I've got NETPRISM working with NDISWrapper I think :P
[02:57] <syock> tuskernini: no idea. Actually i crashed it because it`s lagging so much. There`s so much disk activity I wonder what`s causing it
[02:57] <noelferreira> what should i do lupine_85, restart router?
[02:58] <lupine_85> that might work noelferreira
[02:58] <noelferreira> i'll try
[02:58] <lupine_85> JoshuaW: rt73 cards have a driver for linux, and it comes installed with edgy
[02:58] <LjL> KenThomson: well, first thing, if you have PATA i don't see why you would use a third hard drive dedicated to swap
[02:58] <JoshuaW> Yes
[02:58] <tuskernini> syock, are you not updateing at themoment'?
[02:58] <lupine_85> e.g. if you're running edgy, you should have a wlan0 interface ?
[02:58] <JoshuaW> But my connection doesn't seem to work
[02:58] <aoupi> KenThomson: for learning the shell: http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[02:58] <LjL> KenThomson: or did you really mean partition there?
[02:58] <syock> tuskernini: ?
[02:58] <KenThomson> LjL: I only have one HDD. All the partitions are entirely logical
[02:58] <syock> tuskernini: I just updated from Dapper
[02:58] <JoshuaW> and I set wlan0 to the details :P
[02:58] <Shaye> How could I remove some programs that I uninstalled, but their icons are still on my applications menu
[02:58] <LjL> KenThomson: ah, then you should use the term "partition". drive is confusing
[02:58] <KenThomson> Ljl: I mean partitions
[02:59] <KenThomson> ok i shall edit it
[02:59] <tuskernini> syock, yes, but is your system not still bussy doing it... was what i ment
[02:59] <lupine_85> if you run "iwconfig" does it show the access point as a MAC address, "not-associated" or "invalid" ?
[02:59] <KenThomson> But thats what i am used to call it in Windows :(
[02:59] <fliegenderfrosch> i've got a router with an integrated switch and several pcs connected to it. there's also a cable connected which leads into another room. now i'd like to be able to connect several pcs in this other room as well. do i need a hub or a switch? and will i still be able to set ip adresses for every pc in the router's setup?
[02:59] <Shaye> How could I remove some programs that I uninstalled, but their icons are still on my applications menu
[02:59] <LjL> KenThomson: anyway, for linux you *don't* use VFAT. you use ext3 or reiserfs or xfs, or any other filesystem that is *created for linux* -- VFAT simply doesn't implement the needed things (Unix permissions, etc)
[03:00] <syock> tuskernini: I just reloginned so everything`s pretty much calm now
[03:00] <JoshuaW> :P
[03:00] <LjL> KenThomson: i suggest you just go with ext3. it's stood the test of time, it's a journalled filesystem, and it's the ubuntu default
[03:00] <rysiek|pl> aoupi: can't remove openssl, I would have to remove 40+ other packages :/
[03:00] <aoupi> rysiek|pl: hmm, try dpkg-reconfigure openssl
[03:00] <tuskernini> syock, good to hear.. i installed edgy from the start... long story
[03:00] <rysiek|pl> aoupi: trying
[03:00] <KenThomson> LjL: ok, so how do i configure my rest-of the HDD (30GB) to handle Ubuntu?
[03:01] <Shaye> gnomefreak, How could I remove some programs that I uninstalled, but their icons are still on my applications menu
[03:01] <Shaye> :)
[03:01] <cornell> Good morning...  I have a laptop with WinXP and it had Mandriva.  I tried to install Ubuntu, using alternate distro, in place of Mandriva.  It failed to install GRUB, so I went with LILO.  After rebooting, all that happened was a string of "9"'s.  I'm assuming that LILO got screwed up.  How can I fix LILO, or install GRUB.  Is there a bootloader installer, or should I try installing Ubuntu again.
[03:01] <LjL> KenThomson: also, i'm not sure why you insist with using a Windows program to do the partitioning. i can mention Partition Magic (not free, afaik), if you really want to, but... why can't you do it in Linux? mind you, you don't *necessarily* have to use the "automatic" installed. you can boot the Desktop CD, launch GPartEd, and edit your partitions *manually* from there
[03:01] <rysiek|pl> aoupi: nope
[03:01] <gnomefreak> Shaye: try to restart you menu/panels
[03:01] <henna_> paps wtf is rt73 card, please
[03:01] <gnomefreak> s/you/your
[03:01] <KenThomson> Ljl: Ok that is a great idea! Is GPARTED bundeled with Ubuntu?
[03:02] <LjL> KenThomson: you boot from the Desktop CD, go to System, Administration (i think) and Partition Editor (GParted). there you can move and shrink partitions as you like
[03:02] <gnomefreak> KenThomson: you have to install it
[03:02] <Shaye> But how gnomefreak? I'm new to this
[03:02] <LjL> KenThomson: yes, it is on the Desktop CD
[03:02] <gnomefreak> Shaye: killall gnome-panel
[03:02] <gnomefreak> Shaye: see if the icons come back or not
[03:02] <Zyfo> !xlg
[03:02] <Z_God> can anyone here do this: dpkg -S /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolic ?
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <syock> tuskernini: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239255&highlight=midi+firefox why don`t you try this one out, I`m trying it myself
[03:02] <lupine_85>  dapper ntfsresize had a bad habit of killing the NTFS partition... is that still the case?
[03:02] <concept10> Hyper-threading is disabled with the generic ubuntu kernel.  Is this on purpose?  Anyone know why?
[03:02] <Z_God> dpkg -S /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy I mean
[03:02] <Z_God> thanks in advance
[03:03] <Tompu> KenThomson: after reading your post, I wouldnt recommend Ubuntu (or linux) to you at all, unless you're willing to be more flexible than your post suggests
[03:03] <tuskernini> syock, will do thankx
[03:03] <gnomefreak> Shaye: how did you remove them?
[03:03] <LjL> KenThomson: be sure you do a "chkdsk" on your windows partition first (although gparted will generally refuse touching it, if it sees there might be something wrong) -- and perhaps you'll need to run a defrag, to be able to shrink it enough.
[03:03] <Shaye> gnomefreak, icons are still there
[03:03] <Shaye> from the add or remove programs menu
[03:03] <slytherin> Z_God: There is no such file
[03:03] <aoupi> rysiek|pl: dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates
[03:03] <Z_God> hmm, thanks slytherin
[03:04] <Z_God> weird I'm getting an error about it from kdm
[03:04] <Z_God> it seems to be the reason it's crashing
[03:04] <tinus> hello, anyone able to install libqt4-dev on edgy?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> Shaye: what apps are they?
[03:04] <KenThomson> Tompu: the fact that i went through all the trouble to type that past, and this month scurring the net for info on using Linux, should indicate that i am willing to swtich. And yes, i shall try to be flexible. Could you offer more context-sensitive help? I mean regarding the post
[03:04] <slytherin> Z_God: go to packages.ubuntu.com and search there
[03:04] <Shaye> gnomefreak, xchat gnome, and galeon web browser
[03:04] <gnomefreak> Shaye: try to see if you can run the apps from menu
[03:04] <Shaye> gnomefreak,  can't
[03:04] <LjL> KenThomson: then you also ask which filesystem gives the best performance. that's a hard question -- it really depends on how you use the filesystem. some say ReiserFS tends to be faster, but personally it'd still go with ext3.   Just forget about NTFS or VFAT, they can't really be used for Linux (they can be *read*, and sometimes *written to*, in Linux, but you can't really use them as your main Linux filesystem)
[03:05] <mr_daniel> ubuntu is just great, but there is one thing I am not able to handle
[03:05] <syock> Anyone here with the same lagging Edgy problem? I still can`t find the trigger
[03:05] <KenThomson> LjL: And what do you suggest about sharring data (movies, files, mp3s) between the OSs? What kind of filesystem should i use? Any advice?
[03:05] <Shaye> gnomefreak, it's saying no such file or directory, sicne i uninstalled
[03:05] <pegger> re
[03:05] <gnomefreak> Shaye: edgy?
[03:05] <Tadej> hello
[03:05] <Shaye> gnomefreak, yes
[03:05] <syock> edgy!
[03:05] <pegger> ha kell vkinek segitseg aiglx-el mostmar tok segiteni
[03:05] <Tadej> I have a problem with apt-get update
[03:05] <mr_daniel> who I can setup support midi-support?
[03:05] <Tadej> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29096/
[03:05] <Shaye> a bug?
[03:05] <Tompu> LjL, KenThomson: I've had no problems with writing VFAT
[03:06] <syock> mr_daniel: huh? What does that mean?
[03:06] <KenThomson> aoupi: Thanks for the site, it looks interesting?
[03:06] <LjL> KenThomson: FAT is the safest choice, since both Linux and Windows can write it with confidence. however, you could still use ext3 i think, because i believe there is third-party support for ext3 on Windows
[03:06] <mr_daniel> I am able to hear midi's with timidity, BUT I want also to hear the musik with other players like amarok
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Shaye: i would say go into alacarte and remove them from menu. it sounds likea  bug with add/remove apps
[03:06] <syock> mr_daniel: I dunno amaroK. does it have plugins?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Shaye: you can reinstall them an than sudo apt-get remove --purge app app
[03:06] <LjL> Tompu, KenThomson: i never you'd have problems with writing to VFAT
[03:06] <tinus>  libglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa (= 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3) but 6.5.1+cvs20060824 is to be installed
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Shaye: try that first
[03:06] <tiger_> mr_daniel:  mp3 ?
[03:06] <slytherin> Tadej: Don't use automatix.
[03:06] <rysiek|pl> aoupi: that installed me the certs (that's a big step forward), but I'm still missing the openssl.cnf file. what was the url of the repo search tool for ubuntu?
[03:06] <mr_daniel> syock: do you have midi-support?
[03:06] <Tompu> LjL: he'd have to reformat to switch to ext3 though?
[03:06] <LjL> Tompu, KenThomson: i meant, i never *said*
[03:07] <mr_daniel> I want to hear midi-files
[03:07] <akappa> Hi
[03:07] <tiger_> mr_daniel:  maybe U need the coders if U want play MP3 files
[03:07] <gypo> Help with ftp please
[03:07] <tiger_> ahhH!
[03:07] <Shaye> what the -purge does exactly gnomefreak
[03:07] <slytherin> gypo: What help?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> Shaye: it purges all files related to the apps
[03:07] <mr_daniel> I can play mp3-files, my problem is, that i can't play midi-files
[03:07] <LjL> Tompu, KenThomson: yes, if you decide for ext3 for your "data" partition, you'll have to backup, format, and restore. perhaps you'd better leave it as FAT
[03:07] <Shaye> ok let me try gnomefreak, sec
[03:07] <KenThomson> LjL, Tompu: so FAT32, FAR, VFAT, or EXT3?? Which should i use for data? and is the third party app, that leads me read-EXT3 in Windows working 100% all the time. I mean is it realiable, i dont want to lock myself out of my workifiles.
[03:07] <fnf> !midi
[03:07] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[03:07] <gnomefreak> mr_daniel: does your sound card support midi?
[03:07] <tiger_> mr_daniel:  looks strange!
[03:07] <akappa> I've to use composite extension in order to use AIGLX + compiz?
[03:08] <pazemlsqdfmoj> as a not so experienced linux user, should i try compiz or beryl or neither at this stage?
[03:08] <Drago> noob needing help setting up tftpd and having it run all the time as a service.
[03:08] <gypo> I can log in to my vsftpd server witha windows machine but i cannot upload to the chroot dir
[03:08] <babo> Unhandled MIME type: 'application/x-extension-pdf' ... ?
[03:08] <LjL> Tompu, KenThomson: but no wait, you say your "data" partition uses NTFS... linux isn't yet quite good at writing to NTFS (though it can read fine)
[03:08] <slytherin> akappa: Forget compiz, use beryl ;-)
[03:08] <babo> qemu screwed up my system...
[03:08] <mr_daniel> gnomefreak: i don't know what you mean with 'support'
[03:08] <mr_daniel> the point is: today no soundcard have a midi-synthesiser
[03:08] <gnomefreak> mr_daniel: can your soundcard play midi
[03:08] <Tadej> why wont my edgy upgrade this packates?
[03:08] <akappa> omg, yet another window manager? :D
[03:08] <Tadej> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 31 not upgraded.
[03:08] <gnomefreak> mr_daniel: not all soundcards can play them
[03:08] <henna_> paps bent u degene die andere servers onderricht geeft?
[03:08] <noelferreira> nothing changes after restartting lupine_85
[03:09] <SpaceCake> Hi to all, wich channel is for Ubuntu lite ?
[03:09] <gnomefreak> Tadej: libgl1-mesa-glx?
[03:09] <mr_daniel> today there are everywhere midi-software-syntehsisers
[03:09] <aoupi> gypo: make sure you have allowed uploading in the vsftpd.conf and also make sure that the chroot dir is writable for the user running the vsftpd
[03:09] <zarephath> !de >henna
[03:09] <akappa> sydhart, why do you prefer beryl over compiz?
[03:09] <Tadej> gnomefreak; ?
[03:09] <LjL> KenThomson: i don't really know how reliable the 3rd party ext3 thingies are. people have reported they're reliable, but i wouldn't swear on it. i'd go with either FAT or ext2, if you want to be sure you can reliably write to it from Windows
[03:09] <slytherin> gypo: That is because by default it will allow only download. Read manpage of vsftpd. It mentions how to do it.
[03:09] <acidscore> hi folks
[03:09] <gnomefreak> Tadej: it wont upgrade that package?
[03:09] <akappa> Oh, I haven't resolve my problem with usplash :)
[03:09] <Tadej> w8 Ill paste it
[03:10] <mr_daniel> for example this site here http://www.rpgamer.com/games/chrono/ccross/ccrossmid.html
[03:10] <acidscore> can i have some help to make a ext3 partition to mount automatically in read/write mode for my user?
[03:10] <LjL> KenThomson: leaving it as NTFS is also an option, but as i said, Linux write-support for NTFS is poor (and a bit hard to set up, i think), and not quite reliable
[03:10] <mr_daniel> there are some midi-files and I want to hear them
[03:10] <gypo> aoupi--vsftpd.conf allowwrite=yes
[03:10] <akappa> It says "no themes avaiable for your resolution"
[03:10] <Tadej> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29097/
[03:10] <mr_daniel> what I have to do ?
[03:10] <Shaye> gnomefreak, still :\
[03:10] <KenThomson> Ljl, Tompu: My current DataPartition has Windows Programs + Data (30GB, NTFS). Should i format and change the filesystem to something else so that i can install Windows Programs + keep my data + Linux + Linux Programs on that 30GB Partition so that only the required OS sees its programs, and i am able to see my Data from both OSs.
[03:10] <acidscore> what's the exact string for my fstab?
[03:10] <Tadej> gnomefreak; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29097/
[03:10] <tiger_> LjL:  fat32......., NTFS, Ext3 .......all
[03:10] <akappa> but I don't know how to change the theme..
[03:10] <fnf> acidscore: You looked at /etc/fstab, didn't you ?
[03:10] <mr_daniel> my windows can play midi's, also my card support midi-files
[03:10] <acidscore> fnf yes i did
[03:10] <gnomefreak> Shaye: sounds like a menu bug to me now please restart gnome and see if they go away
[03:10] <ramen> How do you install moblock?
[03:10] <Grzybek> hi, after last dist-upgrade my x's doesnt work. when i want to install fglrx driver it is an error with kernel-heades-src, can any1 help?
[03:10] <LjL> KenThomson: err, wait, you aren't really going to put windows programs and linux programs on the same partition, really =)
[03:10] <akappa> I've found information on how to change the theme with usplash, but it works for ubuntu 6.06
[03:11] <gnomefreak> Tadej: ah
 hi, after last dist-upgrade my x's doesnt work. when i want to install fglrx driver it is an error with kernel-heades-src, can any1 help? (debiam sarce)
[03:11] <acidscore> but i don't remeber the exact string to put for my dev
[03:11] <tiger_> LjL:  with fat32 is easy but you can use some drivers in Windows.... to access Ext3
[03:11] <LjL> tiger_: ... meaning?
[03:11] <Grzybek> sarge*
[03:11] <gnomefreak> Tadej: sudo apt-get install (all of them)
[03:11] <Shaye> killall gnome-panel gnomefreak?
[03:11] <drbreen_> is there anything like a "threaded chat system" in ubuntu ?
[03:11] <LjL> tiger_: ah, yes. but as i said, i don't know first hand how reliable those drivers are - so i can't recommend them
[03:11] <gnomefreak> Shaye: no log out than crtl+alt+backspace and log back in
[03:11] <gypo> how do i change permissions to the chrooted dir so remote users can upload?
[03:11] <killown>  in dmsge i get [17179594.056000]  eth1: IC Plus Corporation IP100A FAST Ethernet Adapter at 00019000, 00:08:54:d5:54:d4, IRQ 209.     [17179594.064000]  eth1: No MII transceiver found, aborting.  ASIC status 63 what I do to fix it?
[03:11] <fnf> acidscore: Your fstab probably contains several entries, which are perfect samples, to make them readable/writable to users, to need to put respective users into a group, Ubuntu names it plugdev, which GUID is 46
[03:11] <Shaye> ok sec
[03:12] <tiger_> LjL:  sorry
[03:12] <mr_daniel> wow, this is such a wonder: everyone knows what to do when the xserver is broken or the keyboard isnt working correct, BUT about midi-support nobody here got an answer
[03:12] <mr_daniel> this is very bad
[03:12] <mr_daniel> there MUST be a way
[03:12] <KenThomson> LjL: so finally which parition does Windows NATIVELY support (without and external drivers) in which i can store my shared Data for both OSs to use? And which is the most effecient (performance wise) out of them? Which one? ext3, vfat, fat, fat32 or something else?
[03:12] <fnf> acidscore: Of course that's just one convenient way and probably "official"
[03:12] <acidscore> fnf..should i put rw,users,guid=46 0 0 ??
[03:12] <babo> qemu has screwed up my computer, gnome won't open .pdf files ... does anyone know a way around this ?
[03:12] <babo> Unhandled MIME type: 'application/x-extension-pdf' ... ?
[03:12] <LjL> KenThomson: when you write "D: Drive (any file system) for Linux + Windows Programs (28-30GB, depending upon the last swap partition)." <-- this doesn't sound like a good idea at all. leave windows programs in a partition, and linux in another partition
[03:12] <luisbg> I can't get the acceleration of my ati radeon work in ubuntu
[03:13] <LjL> KenThomson: the only partition i'd share would be a "data" partition - music, etc
[03:13] <babo> seems to be unable to link the doc viewer to .pdf. Even when I do it manually it doesn't work ...
[03:13] <gnomefreak> Shaye: still there?
[03:13] <Shaye> Dang, still.. what is exactly ctrl alt backspage for gnomefreak?
[03:13] <LjL> KenThomson: the only filesystem type that both windows and linux support reliably, *natively*, is FAT
[03:13] <fnf> acidscore: Almost exactly, it depends on your partition types a bit though.
[03:13] <gnomefreak> Shaye: it restarts gdm
[03:13] <gnomefreak> Shaye: restarts X
[03:13] <syock> okay it`s starting again. The culprit maybe dpkg
[03:13] <acidscore> my partition is a primary partition in ext3
[03:13] <KenThomson> LjL: does that mean only FAT or FAT32 or some other type of FAT? I am really confused, so please excuse me
[03:13] <slytherin> babo: What has qemu to do with pdf files?
[03:13] <LjL> KenThomson: they're all efficient enough IMHO. FAT and NTFS (but forget about NTFS) tend to suffer from fragmentation thog
[03:14] <gnomefreak> Shaye: remove them with alacarte for now file a bug against ubuntu
[03:14] <babo> slytherin: qemu crashed my computer, now I can't open pdf files ...
[03:14] <acidscore> and i want it to auto-mount on boot in rw mode for everybody
[03:14] <Shaye> What is alacarte gnomefreak? it's my second time on Linux sorry
[03:14] <LjL> KenThomson: any kind of FAT... but you're really going to      just use FAT32. the other flavors of       fat areeeeeee obssoleteed
[03:14] <slytherin> babo: That is what I want to know. Why it crashed computer? It is virtual machine.
[03:14] <LjL> KenThomson: keyboard hav probbbbbbbblemssssssss
[03:15] <fnf> acidscore: so put the options as "rw,gid=46" then your users in plugdev group is the minimal conf for it to work. You may try mount it.
[03:15] <gnomefreak> Shaye: go to system prefferences menu layout
[03:15] <tucoz> Hi, anyone know how to make firefox use the mplayer-plugin instead of totem, when it tries to play embedded video?
[03:15] <acidscore> ok..just a minute..
[03:15] <gnomefreak> Shaye: alacarte is a menu editor
[03:16] <babo> slytherin; I don't know why it crashed the computer, I'm not a qemu developer. It's been my experience that poorly written programs can crash computers at times ...
[03:16] <jrib> tucoz: sudo touch /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*mplayer*  and restart your browser, or alternatively, remove totem plugin from your system
[03:16] <KenThomson> LjL: So finally how do you suggest i partition my 40GB HDD? I have a 10GB C: partition (with Windows XP Pro + some apps). I wish to break the rest of 30GB to something more conducive. Will 10GB for Linux + it's apps be enough? or amybe 15GB? What do you sugggest. I wish to keep the larger part of my HDD, i.e the rest of 20GB as FAT so that i can store some Windows APPS on it too! (in case i fill my NTFS partition) and plus lots of data too
[03:16] <tucoz> jrib, thanks.
[03:16] <KenThomson> Ljl: KBD gone nuts? ;-)
[03:16] <LjL> KenThomson: ok, let's see if fresh batteries help. i was saying, 1) FAT is the only option that's *natively* supported by both Windows and Linux  2) the flavor you want is FAT32  3) FAT suffers a bit from fragmentation, but i wouldn't worry *too* much about performance... rather, the problem with FAT is reliability, since it's not journalled
[03:16] <Shaye> System - prefferences, i should see there alacarte?
[03:16] <LjL> KenThomson: yeah, wireless keyboard
[03:17] <gnomefreak> Shaye: no its renamed to menu layout
[03:17] <Gods_gift> Shaye: http://sushiknights.org/alejo/ubuntu/alacarte.png
[03:17] <acidscore> fnf..it isn't the right way...
[03:17] <fnf> acidscore: Did it show any error ?
[03:17] <syock> something might be wrong with my apt library
[03:17] <acidscore> no
[03:17] <netdownload> anyone has a problem with macromedia plugin in firefox 2 in ubuntu edgy?
[03:17] <LjL> KenThomson: 10Gb should be enough for Linux and its programs (well, depends how many programs you put on it, but in general i think it should be good enough) -- but then you'd want your /home directory to be on some other partition, probably
[03:17] <gnomefreak> netdownload: define problems
[03:17] <acidscore> but i (user) can't write in hda3...but only read
[03:18] <syock> is it okay to currently have 110208 files/directory installed?
[03:18] <netdownload> I have installed first with the wizard the macromedia plugins
[03:18] <LjL> KenThomson: one problem IMHO is that if you have your Windows programs in D:, right now, they won't be happy if you just move them somewhere else
[03:18] <KenThomson> LjL: FAT is unrealiable, yet i will have to store my *absolutely important* data files on a unreliable partition? Aint there something thats safe? I can live with loosing my OS or applications, but loosing Data would absolutely screw me. Some thoughts on the filesystem i use to store Data?
[03:18] <Shaye> Thanks gnomefreak, removed :)
[03:18] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:18] <netdownload> and after every time I start firefox it crashes
[03:18] <fnf> acidscore: try 'mount -v -t ext3 -o rw,users,gid=46 <your_dev> <mount-point>', unmounting it first for sure. Also what is the output of 'groups' ?
[03:19] <LjL> KenThomson: use ext3, and research how well Windows can support it through 3rd-party programs.
[03:19] <netdownload> I tried to install the plugins manually but the problem remains
[03:19] <zarephath> Probably a reliable backup medium would be better...
[03:19] <KenThomson> LjL: I know about those Windows APPS. I can handle all the Windows Problems comfortably. You need to help me with the LInux Thing ;-)
[03:19] <Shaye> gnomefreak, 1 more thing, do u have any good sites i can learn how to use linux? the shell, etc
[03:19] <gnomefreak> netdownload: alot of people have that issue. nothing can really be done for a few more weeks. you can disable flash and im sure there are a few workarounds
[03:19] <fnf> !tldp
[03:19] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[03:19] <gnomefreak> !cli
[03:19] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:19] <acidscore> fnf acidscore@Greg:~$ groups
[03:19] <acidscore> acidscore adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[03:19] <aoupi> Shaye: http://www.linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[03:19] <gnomefreak> !cli | Shaye
[03:19] <ubotu> Shaye: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:20] <netdownload> ghomefreak: the problem is about firefox?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> netdownload: no
[03:20] <KenThomson> LjL: And is FAT the only filesystem that Windows and Linux can read *natively*? Is ext2 natively Windows read-able?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> netdownload: its flash
[03:20] <Shaye> Thanks: )
[03:20] <gnomefreak> Shaye: yw
[03:20] <Clinton__> KenThomson: nope
[03:20] <KenThomson> That saddens me
[03:20] <netdownload> so I can install a previous version of flash
[03:20] <Tompu> KenThomson: but hopefully it doesnt surprise you
[03:20] <KenThomson> My Data on a unsecure filesystem? What should i do?
[03:21] <mythtv> apparently im banned from mythtv-users, i just wanted to know if there was a way i could globally disable auto-delete of my files?
[03:21] <Tompu> KenThomson: this _is_ Microsoft we're talking about
[03:21] <acidscore> fnf..that command gimme a generic error
[03:21] <KenThomson> ok
[03:21] <gnomefreak> netdownload: no but try flash9 see if it still happens. flash9 is alpha and may break
[03:21] <Clinton__> KenThomson: encrypt your data
[03:21] <gnomefreak> !flash9 | netdownload
[03:21] <ubotu> netdownload: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[03:21] <fnf> acidscore: What error was that ?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> s/alpha/beta
[03:21] <LjL> KenThomson: ok, then what i would do, personally, is something like:  partition #1)  18Gb, NTFS, Windows and programs    #2)  1Gb, or less, Linux swap   #3)  10Gb, ext3, Linux (and programs)   #4) 10Gb, ext3, /home partition   #4)  1Gb, FAT partition, for Linux-Windows data exchange "in case of an emergency"
[03:21] <henna_> s/alpha/beta!!!!
[03:22] <penguin42> well at least Edgy has fixed the Radeon button rendering bug
[03:22] <acidscore> about fs..or about attributes..or about options...litterarly
[03:22] <Clinton__> LjL: two #4's eh?
[03:22] <henna_> what a game, right!!!!
[03:22] <KenThomson> So if Linux can 100% read-write to NTFS (Ubuntu 6.10)? Than NTFS should be OK? wouldn't it
[03:22] <henna_> lol
[03:22] <netdownload> ok thx gnomefreak
[03:22] <LjL> KenThomson: make the last 4 a 5 ;)   anyway, the actual sizes will of course depend on what you have... i.e. perhaps 18Gb for Windows could be overkill, or on the other hand too little
[03:22] <KenThomson> LjL: Your efforts are really helping me understand somethings. Well said! Kudos
[03:23] <LjL> KenThomson: ah wait though, you can only have 4 primary partitions... which maybe is why i unconsciously wrote two 4's... ;-)
[03:23] <Tompu> KenThomson: you should consider writing to NTFS 'experimental', imBo
[03:23] <fnf> acidscore: I'm recheck it and comeback right away.
[03:23] <acidscore> fnf very very thank you
[03:23] <KenThomson> LjL; #4) 10Gb, ext3, /home partition..Is this for Data storage or what?
[03:24] <eracc> KenThomson, Tompu makes a valid point about NTFS. However, it has been considered "experimental" for a long time now and works well for some people.
[03:24] <Tompu> KenThomson: it's something like your 'my documents' folder. all your personal files and configuration data should live in there
[03:24] <LjL> KenThomson: data storage, yes. /home in linux is the directory where user files reside, so you'd have (for instance) a /home/kenthomson directory. there you put documents, music, whatever
[03:24] <netdownload> gnomefreak: but do you know why with dapper this problem doesn't appear
[03:24] <infidel> !modules.symvers
[03:24] <LjL> KenThomson: it's the same concept as the C:\Documents and Settings directory in Windows
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modules.symvers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <infidel> !symvers
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about symvers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <acidscore> nayone else can help me to make a ext3 partition to mount on boot with r/w mode for evry group?
[03:24] <infidel> how do i make the modules.symvers
[03:25] <LjL> KenThomson: anyway, i'd scrap the fifth (aka "second 4th" ;) "emergency" partition, because to have 5 partition, you'd need an extended partition... which i would avoid, just to keep things simple
[03:25] <fnf> acidscore: My bad, gid isn't necessary for ext3, vfat is, so adding default option should be enough, by mounting it manually you won't need the -o param. Then makes sure your user is a member of plugdev.
[03:25] <KenThomson> Why are you people hurting the poor bot? Its been working all day ;-)
[03:25] <LjL> KenThomson: at any rate, you should have no trouble at all *reading* ext3 from Windows. at worst, you'd have problem writing to it (which is why i said you should research that a little)
[03:25] <acidscore> ok..ill check..
[03:26] <LjL> infidel: how do you do what?
[03:26] <eracc> Gag! Let Microsoft touch my Linux partitions?! Never!
[03:26] <netdownload> :D
[03:26] <A[D] minS> is there program like prozilla under ubuntu edgy ?
[03:26] <infidel> LjL, create the symvers
[03:26] <netdownload> what is prozilla?
[03:26] <A[D] minS> !prozilla
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prozilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <champollion> hello all
[03:26] <KenThomson> Ljl, Tompu, eracc: Yes i dont want to write my Data to anything less than 100% compatible filesystem. So maybe i will use ext3 for data too! But than what to do if Windows has problems reading my Data? (there will be someday when i need my data through Windows)
[03:27] <KenSentMe> !info prozilla
[03:27] <ubotu> Package prozilla does not exist in any distro I know
[03:27] <LjL> KenThomson: second version:  partition #1)  18Gb, NTFS, Windows and programs    #2)  1Gb, or less, Linux swap   #3)  9Gb, ext3, Linux (and programs)   #4) 12Gb, ext3, /home partition
[03:27] <acidscore> fnf ...the group plugdev doesnt exsist
[03:27] <Clinton__> KenThomson: then use FAT
[03:27] <A[D] minS> netdownload: program like download accelerator
[03:27] <syock> Japanese pears are nice but pricey
[03:27] <LjL> KenThomson: no, as i said, i'm sure you'll have no problems *reading*. at worst, *writing*
[03:27] <fnf> acidscore: How would you know about that ?.
[03:27] <Tim90> !wannkstar
[03:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wannkstar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:28] <freexe> I was running Edgy RC, and on the upgrade (or around that time), my sound has complety stopped working. Is there anything I can do to fix or find out what is wrong?
[03:28] <A[D] minS> !info axel
[03:28] <infidel> syock, you should see the work they put into the pears
[03:28] <ubotu> axel: A light download accelerator - Console version. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0b-1.1 (edgy), package size 33 kB, installed size 168 kB
[03:28] <LjL> !fishing
[03:28] <Daviey> Hi, multiverse repo seems to be busted on my machine.  I've defiently got it enabled - but i can't download anything from it.  I'm using dapper
[03:28] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[03:28] <netdownload> another problem that I noticed in edgy is that the font in the terminal tty is not very good, How I can change the font?
[03:28] <champollion> how do i config internet
[03:28] <eracc> KenThomson, I'm coming in late but sounds like you are doing a multi-boot box. I would use a 'vfat' type file system to share with a Microsoft OS (if I had a Microsoft OS any more ;-)
[03:28] <Clinton__> Daviey: did you do apt-get update ?
[03:28] <fnf> acidscore: Strange, Ubuntu by default always creates plugdev group during installation.
[03:28] <A[D] minS> netdownload: axel like it :D
[03:28] <Daviey> Clinton__, yes
[03:28] <KenSentMe> Daviey: check your /etc/apt/sources.list if it really enabled
[03:29] <mack> Hello there :)
[03:29] <LjL> eracc: he isn't confortable with using a not-very-robust filesystem for his data, apparently
[03:29] <acidscore> fnf look here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29100/
[03:29] <Daviey> Clinton__, first time it failed halfway through then i redid it and it worked
[03:29] <Clinton__> Daviey: check your sources.list and makesure you really did it
[03:29] <netdownload> A[D] minS: how can I change? :P
[03:29] <syock> infidel: huh? did they make weird shaped pears this time?
[03:29] <Daviey> KenSentMe, defiently enabled
[03:29] <Daviey> Clinton__, defiently enabled
[03:29] <Clinton__> Daviey: what are you trying to get from there?
[03:29] <KenThomson> LjL: So should i assume the Windows Can 100% read EXT3 natively? And only writing to it is the problem? I am asking this to ensure the reliability of my Data.
[03:29] <Tim90> !botsnack
[03:29] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:29] <infidel> syock, they put socks on them
[03:29] <Daviey> Clinton__, java jdk
[03:29] <eracc> LjL, if one is concerned about one's data then one should not use Windoze. IMNSHO ;-)
[03:30] <gnomefreak> Daviey: are you sure you didnt enable backports univer and multiverse instead of universe and multiverse
[03:30] <Clinton__> Daviey: which one?  some are virtual packages and you aren't really going to get anything
[03:30] <compengi> are there many bugs in edgy
[03:30] <Daviey> gnomefreak, i enabled all the standard ones (ie removed all the #)
[03:30] <KenSentMe> Daviey: did you do apt-get update?
[03:30] <KenThomson> Ha Ha The bot (ubotu) is fighting back! Good! People were abusing it too much. Hey tell him that, tell him that, it too deserves respect ;-)
[03:30] <MacK> i second that
[03:30] <Daviey> KenSentMe, yes
[03:30] <freexe> My sound has stopped working, any one have any ideas? My sound card has been detected and the right device is showing
[03:30] <dmb062082> wallpaper-tray still doesnt work, why is it even in universe
[03:30] <gnomefreak> Daviey: multiverse you have to add not just remove the #
[03:30] <LjL> KenThomson: no, not natively -- it *will* need 3rd-party programs even for reading. i'm just saying that, for reading, you shouldn't have problems once you have such a 3rd-party program installed
[03:30] <champollion> every time , I need write : ifconfig 192.168.1.10 up
[03:30] <MacK> installing nvidia drivers destroys my xorg :<
[03:30] <Daviey> gnomefreak, what a doof i am!
[03:31] <KenThomson> eracc: Its out of helplessness, that i use Windows.
[03:31] <LjL> KenThomson: for writing, again, i *would* research a little before trying to write to ext3 from Windows.
[03:31] <Daviey> gnomefreak, why is it listed in one of the lines?
[03:31] <syock> infidel: gah stupid!!! why, is it because it`s almost winter, and they`re afraid  the pears might feel a little bit chilly?
[03:31] <Clinton__> Daviey: we've all suffered from that, shame on me for not asking
[03:31] <netdownload> A[D] minS: can you help me to change the font?
[03:31] <infidel> syock, lol
[03:31] <fnf> acidscore: I'm reading it, by the way, an essential thing to note is even plugdev somehow disappears, you just need to give users "write" access to the mount point. Ubuntu creates plugdev for convenience, then allows all users of that group write to the mount points created during installation: /media/* that is.
[03:31] <A[D] minS> netdownload: which font?
[03:31] <LjL> KenThomson: just try typing "ext2 windows" on google, and then "ext3 windows", you'll get an idea of what's available (note that any program that can read ext2 can also read ext3 by definition -- for writing, that's different)
[03:31] <acidscore> so? o.O
[03:32] <netdownload> A[D] minS: in the tty console
[03:32] <Daviey> Doh!  i am only have muliverse for backports!!!
[03:32] <champollion> help me please
[03:32] <eracc> KenThomson, I understand. Windows is in your "comfort zone" and feels like a security blanket for you. I'm of the "go cold turkey and get off the smack" crowd. ;-)
[03:32] <champollion> every time , I need write : ifconfig 192.168.1.10 up
[03:32] <A[D] minS> netdownload: sorry :S
[03:32] <MetaMorfoziS> !chroot
[03:32] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[03:32] <KenThomson> LjL; Again we come a full circle. Should i trust a little-known, crappy-websited developer (i am assuming the last part), for a little app to read my very precious Data in Windows? Are ext3 or ext2 and FAT the only options?
[03:32] <gnomefreak> Daviey: the repo should look like deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse
[03:32] <fnf> acidscore: try "ls -l /media", what is the group/owner of the mount points ?
[03:32] <compengi> are there many bugs in edgy?
[03:32] <syock> infidel: I`m watching Kanon now, wondering how the girls manage to wear super-short skirts in the dead of winter. in fact, everyone else wonder too
[03:32] <acidscore> fnf wait..
[03:32] <user-land> compengi, sure.
[03:33] <LjL> KenThomson: oh, another thing: you were concerned a little about performance. but i think the difference in filesystems performance are negligible in comparison to other factors -- for one, modern HDs are usually much faster in their outer tracks than in the intter tracks (which usually means, in BIOS terms, that they're faster on the lower sectors)
[03:33] <compengi> user-land, are they fixed?
[03:33] <KenThomson> eracc: I need to run 3DS MAX 9.0, Photoshop cs2, CorelDraw 13, SoundForge, and other Graphic Design/animation apps, which are not working correctly in Liniux, so the dependency
[03:33] <acidscore> fnf :it's root
[03:33] <LjL> KenThomson: so if you want a given partition to be fast, you should probably put it near the "beginning" of the drive
[03:33] <acidscore> fnf..can i give it a simple chmod?
[03:33] <eracc> KenThomson, LOL! "Should i trust a little-known, crappy-websited developer" ... most driver developers spend their mind time on making drivers, not making web pages. ;-)
[03:33] <acidscore> but i think that fstab-way it's the right way
[03:33] <champollion> help me please
[03:33] <Daviey> KenThomson, look at crossover office
[03:33] <user-land> compengi, do you know a popular OS with few bugs ?
[03:33] <fnf> acidscore: sure, if you're the only user of your box.
[03:33] <champollion> every time , I need write : ifconfig 192.168.1.10 up
[03:33] <penguin42> KenThomson: if you use FAT you are sure to be able to read & write it in both; if you use ext3 then with http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd it says it can do it (but I've never tried it and I'd probably not write from Windows to it); if you use NTFS you have a good cahnce of reading it from Linux but I wouldn't write it
[03:34] <morphish> LjL: Kudos fo rgetting the drive speed phenomenon right
[03:34] <LjL> KenThomson, i don't see what other options you can be thinking of. Windows only supports two things natively: FAT and NTFS. anything else, you need 3rd party drivers to support
[03:34] <Tim90> dose linux use NTFS
[03:34] <acidscore> fnf yes it is
[03:34] <LjL> morphish: heh
[03:34] <KenThomson> LjL; And how in the humble hell do i put it near the HDD? ;-)
[03:34] <Daviey> Tim90, you CAN but i wouldn't recommend it
[03:34] <morphish> LjL: mostly when i try to explain that to people, they think of CDs and tell me i am wrong
[03:35] <KenThomson> Daviey: Will it run 3DS MAC, PHOTOSHOP CS2, SOUNDFORGE, CORELDRAW 13, etc effeciently without any silly errors? I doubt it
[03:35] <fnf> acidscore: You may just put yourself in a member of whatever group that /media belongs to.
[03:35] <acidscore> root?!?!?
[03:35] <shadowhywind> I was wondering if anyone has had problem with hibernate in edgy? I can not get mine to work?
[03:36] <Daviey> KenThomson, look for yourself http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/
[03:36] <acidscore> fnf...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29103/
[03:36] <compengi> user-land, i'm not saying that edgy was a bad idea and full of bugs, but as you know that it's the first time given to the users to work on it that's why you will find alot of bugs that need to be fixed
[03:36] <Tim90> ACIDSCORE: root = sudo -i
[03:36] <fnf> acidscore: So /media/* belongs to root group, then changing all the mount points to be plugdev should be enough.
[03:36] <X5-452> How can I see the HD free space through a terminal?
[03:37] <penguin42> X5-452: df
[03:37] <user-land> yes, compengi.
[03:37] <acidscore> so...chomd 777 /media/* ????
[03:37] <KenThomson> penguin42: You see i heard that FAT is a little unrealiable, And putting absolutely essential work data on a obsolete file system shouldn't be wise, right? What do you suggest?
[03:37] <eracc> KenThomson, if you truly cannot find and/or use alternatives to those applications in open source then I would recommend separate systems and sharing over a LAN. Of course I run 2 servers and 5 desktop PCs here in my SOHO biz so that sounds "normal" to me.
[03:37] <morphish> X5-452: df -h (-h is human readable)
[03:37] <Mouldy> Hey all!
[03:37] <X5-452> thanks
[03:37] <fnf> acidscore: Is that the case that you or another process creates these mount points after installation, by default they should belong to plugdev.
[03:37] <Daviey> gnomefreak, yeah i added that line you stated (changed Edy to Dapper) and it works great!  thanx... What a doof i am....  I had muliverse for backports only!!!
[03:37] <Shaye> how can i undo rm command? i just deleted all of my music using the "rm Music" command
[03:37] <KenThomson> eracc: And that sounds absolutely surreal to me ;-) So please, i cant invest in two workstations!
[03:38] <Mouldy> Shaye: You can't I don't think.
[03:38] <ianmacgregor> How do I change the icon that is on the Applications menubar item?
[03:38] <gnomefreak> Shaye: you dont
[03:38] <Shaye> I can't?
[03:38] <KenThomson> Shaye: ;)
[03:38] <fnf> acidscore: chgrp, what a bit for me to cfraf the command. The man pages are your friend btw. man chgrp
[03:38] <compengi> user-land, and i also asked about if i could upgrade to edgy using a cd, so someone told me that it's a bad idea and that people had faced problems after that, is it true?
[03:38] <gnomefreak> Shaye: if its in trash just drag it back to where it was
[03:38] <LjL> KenThomson: easy - in GParted, the partition on your left is (most probably) going to be the fastest one, while the partition on your right will be the slowest one
[03:38] <Tim90> !soho
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soho - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <acidscore> chgrp sound s good...thanks!
[03:38] <morphish> Shaye: google for "indelete $filesystem" where $filesystem is one of ext2, ext3, resierfs, xfs, jfs well, whatever you chose
[03:38] <acidscore> thank you fnf!!
[03:38] <KenThomson> LjL: ok
[03:38] <Daviey> Shaye, i haven't tried it ut look at http://recover.sourceforge.net/linux/
[03:39] <fnf> acidscore: You're welcome :) .
[03:39] <LjL> KenThomson: that is why i proposed having swap as the second partition, by the way -- putting it at the end might make it slower. mind you, that's not necessarily a big concern
[03:39] <morphish> Shaye: if Music is on a partition you can unmount, umount it right now, so nothing gets overwritten and you chances are higher to recovering anything
[03:39] <Shaye> Ah well it's not a big deal, I can just load them from ipod again, lol thought there is an easy way
[03:39] <LjL> KenThomson: and i'm not sure i would bother moving the Windows partition somewhere else, either. also considering Windows can be a bit picky when you move its boot partition around
[03:39] <penguin42> KenThomson: Well FAT is simple and has been around since before the age of the ancients; it works - I'd give Windows the driver that lets it access ext3 - but only use it to read it; and I'd let Linux read the NTFS partition but not write it; if you need to have a file that you actually modify in both then I'd have a FAT partition for that - you might find that the ext3 writing under Windows works , certainly of the two I'd give that a better chance tha
[03:39] <penguin42> n writing NTFS from Linux
[03:39] <morphish> Shaye: oh well, if you have a backup, then just be more careful next time ;)
[03:39] <eracc> Shaye, just recover the deleted files from your backups you make regularly ... you do that, yes? :-)
[03:40] <Shaye> morphish, it's the root partition, i can 't umount it can i?
[03:40] <Shaye> yeah eracc for sure :)
[03:40] <devios> hey all - any way to upgrade to latest version of ubuntu without the install cd?
[03:40] <Kawaii-Panda> devious: change all instances of dapper in your sources.list to edgy
[03:40] <ianmacgregor> !nickspam > A[D] minS
[03:40] <balayhashi> hi there ! I did a amarok 2> /dev/null in the terminal as root ( sudo -i ) . Now I try to acess /dev and it only has null in there ....
[03:40] <Shaye> when i use the shell, does it matter whether i use ~/Folder or /Folder?
[03:41] <LjL> penguin42, KenThomson: i agree FAT is the easiest choice for Linux<->Windows interoperability, but then FAT is not journalled (and it's design is kind of dated generally speaking), so it's not very robust. a power outage during a write *can* in principle be nasty to the filesystem
[03:41] <devios> Kawaii-Panda: can't be that simple.... can it?
[03:41] <user-land> yes, compengi, that is true.
[03:41] <Kawaii-Panda> devious: actually it is
[03:41] <Mouldy> I have a (crappy budget) PCLine wireless multimedia keyboard, one with a bunch of extra buttons and all that jazz. Since I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, the buttons have been going a bit weird. The Internet button opens up firefox, but firefox doesn't display the browser homepage. Instead it shows my home folder. If I click the firefox icon in the application menu, it does load the right homepage (so its not a firefox setting that's
[03:41] <penguin42> LjL, KenThomson: Yeh I agree, robustness ain't soemthing FAT has
[03:41] <Daviey> Shaye, /Folder means from the root area ~/means from your home dir
[03:41] <ianmacgregor> Shaye: Yes, it matters. ~/Folder will be /home/user/Folder  , /Folder will be a Folder dir in /
[03:41] <Kawaii-Panda> devious: you should have you ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop installed though
[03:41] <fnf> Shaye: ~ refers to your home directory, so they are different
[03:42] <penguin42> LjL: Using FAT as a file system for passing stuff and back and forward should be OK though
[03:42] <user-land> compengi, better install edgy from scratch. you can keep the /home directory however. make a backup or place it on a separate partition.
[03:42] <LjL> penguin42: yup
[03:42] <MacK> hello all, i was looking forward a 4.0.0+ version of xlibs (compatible with cedega), anyone knows where get it? unfortunately apt-get doesn't retrieve the packet.
[03:42] <penguin42> LjL: I suppose we need some trusting person to try the ext3 writing under Windows and tell us all if it works nice and stabily :-)
[03:43] <LjL> penguin42, KenThomson: in fact, i suggested to him to have a small FAT partitition dedicated to "emergency" file exchanging. however, that would make the total number of partition 5, which would imply messing with extended partitions
[03:43] <Mouldy> penguin, I write to ext3 udner windows XP and it works flawlessly
[03:43] <Shaye> Daviey, "root area" is actually the "File System" in edgy right?
[03:43] <Shaye> It called "File System" ie /
[03:43] <boricua> xchat keeps crashing on me
[03:43] <ianmacgregor> Shaye: Open gnome-terminal and type: echo ~/Folder  and you'll see the difference
[03:43] <penguin42> Mouldy: Ah - thanks for the recommendation
[03:43] <LjL> penguin42: well, i think i've been told once or twice that ext3 writing on Windows is safe. but then people say many things, and not all of them are true
[03:43] <syock> tuskernini: I managed to get MIDI on firefox now. How bout you?
[03:43] <Tim90> Boricua: use the msn one
[03:43] <compengi> user-land, but you know... installing all again =/
[03:44] <penguin42> LjL: Well I guess ext3 on windows has a reasonable chance - I mean its all open code and the people writing it know what to expect from ext3 unlike the guys writing the NTFS code
[03:44] <Mouldy> penguin42, I use http://www.fs-driver.org/ The only problem with it is, you have root access to your whole partition despite not entering a password
[03:44] <tuskernini> syock, me too thank you
[03:44] <KenThomson> LjL, penguin42: nice insight! So finally,...10GB C: Partition NTFS (untouched running WIndows XP Pro + Windows APPS), 10GB EXT3 for Linux + it's apps, and 1 GB Linux SWAP, I want to use the rest the rest 19GB for Data (movies, mp3s, workfiles, etc etc). So maybe that should be FAT or EXT3. Again that is not 100% compatible natively in both OSs. Is this got to be so confusing? Though having people like you around helps.
[03:44] <Nust> how do you start TFTD as a service so its running all the time, and auto runs after restarts?
[03:44] <user-land> compengi, keep dapper, you won't miss edgy.
[03:44] <boricua> Tim90: amsn?
[03:44] <tuskernini> syock, and my pdf is embedded now
[03:44] <Shaye> Cool thanks
[03:44] <Tim90> no
[03:44] <henna_> yep
[03:44] <ompaul> penguin42, so would you trust windows not to do bad stuff to ext3 I would never do that but then I don't use windows
[03:44] <user-land> compengi, installing can go fast if you keep your /home directory.
[03:44] <boricua> Tim90: what is the name of the app
[03:44] <penguin42> LjL: Any reason to recommend against extended - I've never had a problem with extended
[03:44] <syock> tuskerini: cool haven`t tried that. That`d be very benry
[03:44] <henna_> TFTP
[03:44] <Tim90> boricua:gaim
[03:45] <LjL> KenThomson, yes, it has to be that confusing, when you want to share data between Windows and Linux. that's unfortunate, but it's that way
[03:45] <boricua> gaim for irc?
[03:45] <KenThomson> Mouldy: Is that EXT3, read-write driver 100% reliable to read-write stuff from Windows? I mean loosing Data, just gives me...*shrugs*
[03:45] <gnomefreak> penguin42: i would not recommned doing it but if you feel you need to back everything up first.
[03:45] <penguin42> ompaul: Well Mouldy just said he had good luck with it
[03:45] <Tim90> its really good ,just doe some explorering on it
[03:45] <gnomefreak> boricua: yeah :(
[03:45] <compengi> user-land, how can i keep it?
[03:45] <balayhashi> now i try to do su user and it gives to me a loop of : /dev/null : permission denied !
[03:45] <ra21vi> hi friends
[03:45] <compengi> user-land, with the dbe files
[03:45] <Mouldy> KenThomson: In my experience yes.
[03:45] <user-land> compengi, what are you currently using ?
[03:45] <LjL> penguin42: not at all... only that you have even more things to worry about
[03:45] <gnomefreak> balayhashi: use sudo
[03:45] <syock> awesome. PDF embedded. didn`t know there was such thing
[03:45] <Tim90> boricua:dont nock it till you tryed it
[03:46] <Nust> need help starting a tftpd server, cant get it working.
[03:46] <ra21vi> i tried to setup the pen-tablet for my drawing... and i followed all the wikis for wacom... but failed
[03:46] <balayhashi> gnomefreak: what do you mean?
[03:46] <boricua> why is xchat then the default
[03:46] <ra21vi> actually i think  its not a wacom chip
[03:46] <ianmacgregor> !sudo > balayhashi
[03:46] <gnomefreak> balayhashi: ubuntu uses sudo not su
[03:46] <KenThomson> LjL: than what would you personally do with the rest of 19GB that i left for Data? Which filesystem?
[03:46] <knapper> Can someone tell me why d4x loses all downloads when you close it?
[03:46] <LjL> KenThomson: and yes, that setup sounds nice enough, if you think 10gb is enough for windows + its programs
[03:46] <LjL> KenThomson: personally i'd use ext3, but that's biased, because i spend very little time on windows
[03:47] <KenThomson> Moudly: I am new to Linux, could you explain the "only" problem that you had using that driver in some layman's terms? Thank you
[03:47] <ra21vi> !wacom-tools >ra21vi
[03:47] <babo_> how do I do a system upgrade to edgy ?
[03:47] <Tim90> boricua: You can decide witch one is better ,don't always go default
[03:47] <fnf> !edgy > babo_
[03:47] <gnomefreak> babo_: gksudo update-manager -c
[03:48] <ra21vi> babo_: hey, instead of upgrade, just try reinstalling
[03:48] <KenThomson> LjL: ok then, what is your most unbiased answer to using the rest of the 19GB?
[03:48] <KenThomson> ;-)
[03:48] <Shaye> Cool, now I now that "cd" and "cd .." are two different things! :P
[03:48] <LjL> KenThomson, you spelled Moudly, but the nickname is Moudly (see above)
[03:48] <Tim90> babo : gksudo update
[03:48] <babo_> ra21vi, is it that bad yes ?
[03:48] <Shaye> "cd .." leads to the root :D
[03:48] <LjL> KenThomson: err... Mouldy
[03:48] <Mouldy> KenThomson: Ok. Basically, you know when you're in linux and you want to edit a file that's not in your home folder, you have to put in a root password? Well, if you access your linux partition from windows, it doesn't ask for that password, it grants you access regardless. It's only a security threat if you don't trust other people who use your machine to fiddle with your linux partition.
[03:48] <ra21vi> babo_: well, i got my another system completely broken
[03:48] <ianmacgregor> Shaye: Also, "cd -" will take you back to the previous dir and "cd ~" will take you home :)
[03:48] <ra21vi> i had many things installed there
[03:48] <ra21vi> like Apple shake
[03:49] <ra21vi> now i will again have to apply for license
[03:49] <Shaye> iamtheobject, just "cd" will take me home, won't it?
[03:49] <gnomefreak> ianmacgregor: cd will bring you home too;)
[03:49] <gnomefreak> Shaye: yes
[03:49] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:49] <Shaye> :))
[03:49] <LjL> Mouldy, KenThomson: but then that's a security threat anyway -- anybody who has physical access to the machine can do anything they like. they can start Linux in recovery mode, and have no password asked. or they can use a boot CD or floppy. or...
[03:49] <ianmacgregor> gnomefreak: Hah, didn't know that one.
[03:49] <henna_> YES
[03:49] <balayhashi> yeah i now , i did sudo -i to be root . but to get back to user (balayhashi ) i always do su balayhashi ! But that is not  important. The problem  is that my /dev directory only has null now !!
[03:49] <fliegenderfrosch> how can i check the md5sum of an audio-cd?
[03:49] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell fliegenderfrosch about md5
[03:49] <ra21vi> any1 please guide me to setup my *Pen-Tablet*
[03:50] <Mouldy> LjL, yes, it is a security threat, but only if your leave your windows machine totally un-guarded, either physically or password protected user accounts.
[03:50] <penguin42> gnomefreak: That update-manager upgrade requires a particular python package installed to work - certainly for me I didn't have it (and have forgotton which one)
[03:50] <fnf> Modly: All it takes is a LiveCD then your system is screwed up.
[03:50] <devios> Kawaii-Panda: that is awesome.... can't believe it's this easy...
[03:50] <KenThomson> Mouldy, LjL; That shouldn't be a concern, No-one can even boot my PC, without the boot-BIOS password. Do you mean, that other than that "security threats" you would bet your farm on it?! (well if you had one?)
[03:50] <devios> Kawaii-Panda: upgrading now - ty
[03:51] <LjL> KenThomson: if i had physical access to your machine, and to a screwdriver, i could just short your CMOS battery for 5 seconds, and then your BIOS password is gone ;-)
[03:51] <fnf> KenThomson: They could just take your HDD away if they can physically "touch" your PC.
[03:51] <fliegenderfrosch> LjL, i know how to check the md5sum of a file, but i don't know how to do that with an audio cd
[03:51] <Tim90> gksudo nautilus
[03:51] <Kawaii-Panda> devios: np :)
[03:51] <Tim90> very use full
[03:51] <KenThomson> LjL: thats a old trick though
[03:51] <Mouldy> KenThomson: To be honest. I use the file system driver for windows I posted earlier and I haven't had any issues at all. The security threats mentioned are just *potential* problems and most likely, will never see light of day.
[03:52] <paper> anyone have a reccomendation on what repo's to use to have access to the widest range of apps?
[03:52] <KenThomson> And dont worry, i dont live in a society full of theifs ;-)
[03:52] <ra21vi> KenThomson: there is another way too man.. its software bruteforce than just getting the battery out for 5 mins and discharging the power filter capacitor
[03:52] <shadowhywind> how werid is this error, sudo shutdown -r now -> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 29 09:31:39 2006
[03:52] <TheGateKeeper> paper: dapper or edgy?
[03:52] <LjL> fliegenderfrosch: just "md5sum /dev/cdrom" (or whatever your cdrom device is)
[03:52] <screechingcat> paper: the official ones
[03:52] <penguin42> shadowhywind: just check your clock - what does date show?
[03:52] <paper> dapper
[03:52] <shadowhywind> 10/29/06 8:52
[03:52] <Tim90> KenThomson:Thats the only trick
[03:53] <LjL> fliegenderfrosch: to MD5 it doesn't make a difference whether it's an ISO image file or a real drive (that's the beauty of the Unix "everything is a file" idea...)
[03:53] <penguin42> shadowhywind: Hehe something has a timezone change problem
[03:53] <shadowhywind> *thinking its a daylight saving issue* hopefully on restart should fix that problem, hehe
[03:53] <fnf> paper: The Ubuntu developers don't recommend any package tree outside of their official distribution. You'll take your risk personally for having installed a custom app.
[03:53] <ra21vi> humm, what to do with Pen Tablets, shud i throw them, cuz i cannt use them on Linux
[03:53] <TheGateKeeper> paper: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[03:53] <penguin42> ra21vi: Which ones?
[03:53] <ompaul> penguin42, have you seen the result of "/msg ubotu worksforme"  ?
[03:53] <paper> fnf, thanks used to "poratge"
[03:53] <paper> just jumped over from gentoo
[03:53] <ra21vi> penguin42: its i-pen , and i think it has no wacom chips
[03:53] <freexe> how do i make my fat32 mounts writable
[03:54] <ra21vi> freexe: man mount ... u have to use vfat filesystem
[03:54] <fnf> paper: Then checkinstall maybe a good candidate, in case you want a rare package.
[03:54] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell freexe about windowsdrives
[03:54] <fliegenderfrosch> LjL, 'md5sum /dev/scd0' doesn't work, i get: 'md5sum: /dev/scd0: Input/output error'
[03:54] <TheGateKeeper> paper: how did that happen lol
[03:54] <Axord> !nickspam > Axord
[03:54] <Nust> anyone here ever setup tftpd.. if so then a newbie would like 5 minutes of your time. ta in advance.
[03:54] <freexe> how do i fix my no sound problem
[03:54] <ra21vi> freexe: its mount /dev/hdaX /media/place -t vfat
[03:54] <LjL> fliegenderfrosch: uhm, what's that... a SATA or SCSI CD?
[03:54] <KenThomson> LjL; You seem to know a lot about linux, than , can you suggest me some resource to master the CLI other than http://www.linuxcommand.org/, which is concise, in-depth, yet not boring enough to scare me away? It maybe newbie friendly or may have a virtual linux exercise files. Dont worry my imagination sometimes runs ahead of me ;-)
[03:54] <paper> TheGateKeeper, eh been wanting to try out ubuntu
[03:54] <Clinton__> freexe: go deaf :)
[03:55] <penguin42> ompaul: No I hadn't! But I do agree with it, however at some point if something does work for people then there is no reason not to recommend it
[03:55] <paper> TheGateKeeper, I will probably reinstall gentoo in the near future
[03:55] <freexe> Clinton__: I hop not
[03:55] <penguin42> fliegenderfrosch: I'm not sure I'd expect md5sum'ing an audio cd to work
[03:55] <ompaul> penguin42, that is why we have offical repositories and help.ubuntu.com
[03:55] <ra21vi> penguin42: do u have any idea?
[03:55] <ompaul> :)
[03:55] <deadhobo> When I try to start X my laptop display emits a high pitched whine...
[03:55] <LjL> KenThomson, depends whether you're more interested in shell scripting, or just plain usage of the shell
[03:55] <ra21vi> penguin42: its WP8060(U
[03:55] <freexe> my sound stopped working, and i fear having to do a reintall to fix it
[03:55] <ianmacgregor> KenThomson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:55] <penguin42> ompaul: Sorry I'm confused which of my comments you are referring to
[03:56] <deadhobo> you can feel free to laugh at me if you wish
[03:56] <fliegenderfrosch> penguin42, so it's not possible to check if the cd is ok except listening the whole cd?
[03:56] <Shaye> How do I stop the sudo? when I don't wanna be root anymore?
[03:56] <Shaye> I first did, sudo su, to become root
[03:56] <BooBar> exit
[03:56] <Mouldy> Shaye: type exit
[03:56] <ra21vi> com'n man, Guide me to set my i-pen tablet ... i need it up badly
[03:56] <penguin42> fliegenderfrosch: For an audio cd I think I'd try a ripping program
[03:57] <Shaye> exit will close the terminal, i guess?
[03:57] <LjL> KenThomson: i've never used any other tutorials than plain "man" and "apropos" (which is the same as "man -k") -- for scripting, though, i recommend http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ (if i got the link right)
[03:57] <fnf> KenThomson: Just do weird things with your main box, soonly you'll know that you /must/ acknowledge something in order to fix it ;). Seriously, try The Linux Documentation Project.
[03:57] <ompaul> !sudo > Shaye
[03:57] <KenThomson> LjL: What should a person completely unaware of Linux command start with? That is what i want to do? To achieve the complete Command Line Nirvana, without a GUI (ditch-X ;-) ), that you guys can boast of
[03:57] <ianmacgregor> Shaye: Not from a su env
[03:57] <fnf> !tldp > KenThomson
[03:57] <adi11235> Can someone tell me which file is loaded first when an ubuntu disk is booted from? This is a listing of the files from a bootstrap iso: http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=netbootmd4.gif
[03:57] <Shaye> Got it :)
[03:57] <Captain_Redbeard> Quick question, what would be the proper device to mount a USB-memory on bus2, Device 2?
[03:57] <ompaul> penguin42, I am saying caution, use at your own risk, do not suggest if they don't come from the "offical lines", the logic being that if something is being broken by an offical way of doing things then a fix will most likely be issued, or a suitable work around, but stuff from other locations may leave you high and dry
[03:58] <LjL> KenThomson: in my opinion, it's "read the !cli tutorial" (that is, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands , or anything of the many similar things there are on the net)  and then you can mostly just rely on the "man" command imho. that's just because it's the way i did it, though
[03:58] <Tim90> deadhobo: i get that with my pc ,its deaing out thou i think its due to bad capictors,funny thing is i didnt have it with windows,mabe linux is making my pc work hard, and sqizing ever proccessor cycle
[03:58] <lupine_85> Captain_Redbeard: it doesn't really work like that
[03:58] <Tim90> mmm..very fast indeed
[03:58] <penguin42> ompaul: Sure - I'm just not sure what you are referring to; the only thing I referred to was something for Windows not for installation under Linux
[03:58] <fliegenderfrosch> penguin42, so i have to rip both the original and the copied cd and then compare the files i get if i want to check it?
[03:58] <liwi> hi. from what http i can download the content of add/remove - games?
[03:58] <ianmacgregor> KenThomson: I would recommend using screen
[03:58] <Captain_Redbeard> lupine_85: uhm?
[03:58] <LjL> KenThomson: useful (but advanced) commands you may want to learn about are grep, sed and awk. tutorials about.
[03:58] <lupine_85> wherever you plug it into, it will take up the next available sd device
[03:58] <LjL> KenThomson: s/abound/about/    (and this is a sed command, by the way ;)
[03:59] <ompaul> penguin42, lets leave it there - it seems to be circular
[03:59] <ra21vi> KenThomson: just do something on ur system.. start learning things needed for ur work.... and manpages, wow, u know the GOD had written the section "Linux" of manpages
[03:59] <LjL> err, make it the other way round
[03:59] <penguin42> fliegenderfrosch: Yeh but as I understand with audio CDs the sums probably won't match anyway
[03:59] <KenThomson> ianmacgregor: what is using screen?
[03:59] <lupine_85> e.g. the first one you plug in will become sda (as long as you don't have a SATA or SCSI disc ;) ), then sdb, etc
[03:59] <lupine_85> it really doesn't matter where you plug them in to
[03:59] <fliegenderfrosch> penguin42, so it seems i have to listen to the whole cd... :(
[03:59] <ra21vi> KenThomson: screen is a package, which provides u more vts within a single login and single VT
[03:59] <penguin42> fliegenderfrosch: Well relax, put on the music.....
[03:59] <ianmacgregor> KenThomson: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/  The screen app is in the repos
[04:00] <lupine_85> fliegenderfrosch: or you could make an md5 checksum
[04:00] <ianmacgregor> !info screen
[04:00] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 566 kB, installed size 976 kB
[04:00] <ra21vi> KenThomson: again, look for man screen
[04:00] <KenThomson> ianmacgregor, ra21vi: You are getting too complicated for me. I m currently on a windows box, BTW
[04:00] <fliegenderfrosch> lupine_85, i think that doesn't work with audio-cds?
[04:00] <LjL> KenThomson: another thing i could suggest is to have a virtual machine (qemu or VMware will do) you can experiment on with potentially dangerous shell commands, without fears of destroying real stuff
[04:00] <Captain_Redbeard> lupine_85: explain please
[04:00] <lupine_85> of course it does :p
[04:00] <lupine_85> just md5sum /dev/hdc (or whatever it is)
[04:00] <ianmacgregor> KenThomson: Ok, just keep the screen app in mind when you are learning bash
[04:00] <ra21vi> KenThomson: then u cannt do anything... it shows u r just enjoying our msgs
[04:01] <lupine_85> obviously, you need an md5sum to compare against as well
[04:01] <KenThomson> People i installed cygwin to learn bash commands
[04:01] <lupine_85> Captain_Redbeard: I'm not really sure how much clearer I can make it
[04:01] <ra21vi> anyone here with some pen-tablet experience
[04:01] <lupine_85> it doesn't matter what USB port you plug it into
[04:02] <KenThomson> LjL; i have DSL embedded in qemu, and knoppix live CD
[04:02] <LjL> KenThomson: hm, not sure that's a terribly good idea. does cygwin even come with a sane "man" command? (that is, a sane "less"...)
[04:02] <ra21vi> i m getting problem setting it up
[04:02] <Mouldy> Anyone know where gnome-keybinding-properties saves its settings?
[04:02] <LjL> KenThomson: that's better
[04:02] <fliegenderfrosch> lupine_85, i get: md5sum: /dev/scd0: Input/output error
[04:02] <AlReece45> Is there special instructions for compiling alsa on ubuntu?
[04:02] <penguin42> KenThomson: A lot of the older Unix commands are in the GNU Coreutils package; reading the manual for that and getting used to some of the commands in there will give you a good idea of some of the basic commands (http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_mono/coreutils.html)
[04:02] <KenThomson> LjL: though the "man" command works with cygwin.
[04:02] <KenThomson> penguin42: Thank you
[04:03] <g1gaman> hello, gentlemen
[04:03] <LjL> KenThomson: going back to the partitioning stuff for a moment... what about getting a new HD? 40Gb *may* be a bit limiting if you want dual boot + "data" partition (i know, 40Gb is a lot, but... it's 2006 *shrug*, things have gotten big ;)
[04:03] <ompaul> AlReece45, why compile - you have packages
[04:03] <g1gaman> tell me please, what this mean: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:03] <g1gaman>   libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.4-1ubuntu9 is to be installed
[04:03] <LjL> KenThomson: also, i always found having two HDs handy in many situations
[04:03] <g1gaman> and how can i fix it
[04:03] <cybergod`> a Question guys,  is crossover the same as wine?
[04:04] <g1gaman> cybergod`: no
[04:04] <KenThomson> Aint there some more interactive tutorial? As in i they will give some exercise or maybe a Virtual Linux Java Applet to practive on while i am reading at the site, instead of counteless boring manual and GUIDE pages?
[04:04] <LjL> g1gaman: try "sudo apt-get update" and then try again. failing that, post your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[04:04] <oka> anyone having experience of freebsd?
[04:04] <Mouldy> cybergod`: No, it's based on wine and has a GUI
[04:04] <plb> oka, I've used it for a few years
[04:04] <g1gaman> LjL: i did it. it doesnt work
[04:04] <AlReece45> ompaul, so my microphone, mic port, and headphone port will work
[04:04] <Captain_Redbeard> lupine_85: so say that I have sda1 through 4 already thus it should be mounted as block device sda5, correct?
[04:04] <lupine_85> no
[04:04] <KenThomson> LjL: I certainly know about the HDD constraints, i am planning to get a 200GB on soon
[04:04] <oka> plb, what do you prefer, freebsd or ubuntu? :)
[04:04] <lupine_85> it's a new device, not a new partition
[04:04] <LjL> KenThomson, isn't the bash shell itself interactive enough? ;)
[04:04] <lupine_85> so sdb
[04:04] <LjL> g1gaman: then paste your sources.list and i'll have a look
[04:05] <plb> oka, well FreeBSD is nice but linux has better support
[04:05] <ravenlock> hello.
[04:05] <ra21vi> I m really pissed in midst of my problems... i guess why the manufecturors not included Linux installation info for their I-Pen tablets.. its really stupid.. the hardware people just dont cooperate... i think i will throw this I-Pen... cuz i dont want to shift to Microfuck Windows just to sketch using the I-Pen... its really stupid...
[04:05] <Bacon5o_> meh
[04:05] <plb> oka, software, hardware etc
[04:05] <KenThomson> Mouldy: A quick question, http://www.fs-driver.org/, does the ext2 driver work *perfectly* with the ext3 stuff too?
[04:05] <g1gaman> LjL:  where i should paste it? in you priv.?
[04:05] <Bacon5o_> ra2, cool it, microsoft owns...
[04:05] <ompaul> AlReece45, you may depending on the card have to change some settings
[04:05] <g1gaman> your
[04:05] <oka> plb, ok. i see, all window managers that are available for linux, is suitable for freeBSD?
[04:05] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell g1gaman about pastebin
[04:05] <hume> hi, i'm trying to upgrade to edgy but get an error msg, it cannot remove or upgrade samba:  /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu4_i386.deb
[04:05] <hume> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:05] <lupine_85> no
[04:05] <hume> anyone got advice?
[04:05] <lupine_85> ext3 != ext2
[04:05] <ravenlock> I was wondering if someone could point me towards a good how to on getting wpa-psk setup on 6.10 with an atheros based card.
[04:05] <_asdfgh_> BitchX-1.1-final+ by panasync - FreeBSD 6.1-SECURITY
[04:05] <KenThomson> LjL: The bash is so interactive, that sometimes i plan it to run the bash at a movie theater, and let people enjoy its supper interactivity ;-)
[04:06] <plb> oka, most likely yes
[04:06] <Bacon5o_> Once you start using linux you start to appreciate how well microsoft's GUI trumps anything else
[04:06] <daftvader> can someone help me pls
[04:06] <lupine_85> Bacon5o_: ???
[04:06] <daftvader> I cannot get my smp k7 to run ubuntu
[04:06] <KenThomson> Bacon5o_: You making it harder for me to go to Linux ;)
[04:06] <plb> oka, freshports.org has freebsd package listing
[04:06] <deadhobo> Anyone got ideas to let out stress?
[04:06] <Bacon5o_> yes lupine :D
[04:06] <lupine_85> Microsoft's GUI is clunky and slow
[04:06] <ompaul> AlReece45, double click onthe speaker icon top right hand corner make sure nothing is muted and if you are using a seperate card to onboard make sure onboard is disabled in the bios
[04:06] <Bacon5o_> filesystem owns too
[04:06] <penguin42> daftvader: Hi - mine is running it ok - what problem are you seeing
[04:06] <daftvader> it used to run with dapper but after edgy it doesn't run
[04:06] <Kawaii-Panda> deadhobo: have you tried workrave? its on the repositories.
[04:06] <Kawaii-Panda> !workrave
[04:06] <ubotu> workrave: RSI prevention tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.3-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 635 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[04:06] <LjL> KenThomson, i personally feel that, with Unix shells, taking the "ok, now i'm going to learn it all" approach is not constructive, and frustrating. i'd just learn the basic thing from any decent tutorial (like the ones you've been pointed to), and then let nature do the rest -- that is, when you need to accomplish a task, you sweat through man pages until you find a way ;-)   i assure you that, that way, you never forget.
[04:07] <thoreauputic> Bacon5o_: and others  >>> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:07] <Kawaii-Panda> amazing how linux has a solution to almost everything. :)
[04:07] <Bacon5o_> but I need some help in getting my graphics card to coperate with ubuntu
[04:07] <daftvader> hi penguin42: after edgy upgrade i can't get it to run nvidia
[04:07] <plb> this channel is huge...1072 people
[04:07] <xroach> is there better laptop powersawing things in edgy?
[04:07] <daftvader> but i can get the 2.6.17 kernel to run
[04:07] <ompaul> !offtopic
[04:07] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:07] <Shaye> what options do i have with ls? i guessed ls -s, but i dont know what it does lol
[04:07] <KenThomson> LjL: good point!
[04:07] <lupine_85> Shaye: man ls
[04:07] <daftvader> penguin42: i cant get the k7 smp to run though
[04:07] <deadhobo> Kawaii-Panda: lol, wow.. I was... nevermind haha. I can't actually try workrave due to the reason of my stress, but oh well. I have spent 3 days straight working on getting nvidia drivers working and they still take a dump on me every time
[04:07] <lupine_85> there are /lots/ of options.
[04:07] <ra21vi> hey PPL, its a serious warning, please dont pollute this room with the name Micro$oft... else i will kill Bill ;)
[04:08] <AlReece45> ompaul: right now I'm running on a kernel without alsa or oss support (wanted to compile it in). But there was nothing muted and the bios doesn't have any options to disable it, even if It did, the speakers work correctly.
[04:08] <KenThomson> LjL: Now all i need to do is, repartition my HDD and go FOR IT!!!
[04:08] <penguin42> daftvader: Ah I 'll admit to knowing nothing about Nvidia, but I've got an old Radeon in my smp k7; how far does the k7 smp get ?
[04:08] <Kawaii-Panda> deadhobo: 3 days? it took me 3 minutes to install them using automatix :-D
[04:08] <ericz> if i have an amd sempron processor, should i be using one of the other kernel versions, like k7 or 686 or something?
[04:08] <ravenlock> I was wondering if someone could point me towards a good how to on getting wpa-psk setup on 6.10 with an atheros based card.
[04:08] <daftvader> penguin42: it got to login at the command line
[04:08] <ompaul> AlReece45, if you have been playing with a non ubuntu standard kernel then you might consider switching to one
[04:08] <deadhobo> Kawaii-Panda: yeah... thats what I tried first. Took a dump on me, I freaked out and thought I trashed my laptop. Here, let me find a picture
[04:08] <daftvader> penguin42: couldn't start x
[04:09] <LjL> KenThomson: also, one of our operators has "ubuntu trivia quizzes" in #ubuntu-trivia (sunday around 1am CET, i believe... or something) - if you want to see some of the weirdest stuff, you could join there when there is a quiz ;-)
[04:09] <KenThomson> ra21vi: Please have some respect for that Great Philanthropist!  :|
[04:09] <penguin42> daftvader: Ah not too bad; then that is probably your nvidia and not the k7 smp
[04:09] <deadhobo> Kawaii-Panda: http://jhsforum.com/upload/files/IMAGE_00116.jpg
[04:09] <hume> hi, i'm trying to upgrade to edgy but get an error msg, it cannot remove or upgrade samba, and thus not either install nor remove other programs
[04:09] <LjL> !automatix | Kawaii-Panda
[04:09] <ubotu> Kawaii-Panda: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[04:09] <daftvader> penguin42: said something about x module is version 8774 while nvidia is version 8762
[04:09] <g1gaman> LjL: Sir, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29112/, sir! :)
[04:09] <tiger_> Someone know how can UNDO these commands:
[04:09] <tiger_> # xprop -root -f _XKB_RULES_NAMES 8s -set _XKB_RULES_NAMES xorg
[04:09] <tiger_>  # setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout es
[04:09] <LjL> !paste | tiger_
[04:09] <ubotu> tiger_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:09] <AlReece45> ompaul: I only compiled a kernel after trying the standard one.
[04:09] <tiger_> Ive lost accents!!
[04:09] <penguin42> daftvader: Ah - I don't know the nvidia stuff
[04:09] <KenThomson> Who feeds the bot?
[04:09] <daftvader> penguin42: yes but it used to run perfectly with dapper
[04:09] <noelferreira> lupine_85: are you there?
[04:09] <deadhobo> !feed
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <deadhobo> aw :/
[04:10] <ompaul> AlReece45, so go back and then ask how is it solved, what sound card have you got?
[04:10] <ra21vi> Does all Pen-Tablets have the Wacom chips.... I m getting problem installing the I-Pen Model WP8060(U) ** Help me Out
[04:10] <daftvader> penguin42: upafter i upgrade to edgy it screwed up. the kernel didn't change and neither did nvidia
[04:10] <LjL> g1gaman: aw, automatix. that might explain a thing or two.
[04:10] <KenThomson> Mouldy: A quick question, http://www.fs-driver.org/, does the ext2 driver work *perfectly* with the ext3 stuff too?
[04:10] <ProN00b> how can i rip that totem plugin out of my firefox ?
[04:10] <deadhobo> So, anyone here got a bat? Or does linux have a solution for "bat beating anger"
[04:10] <Shaye> lupine_85, and how do I close that man help window lol
[04:10] <Nust> need help with tftpd - cant seem to get it running...
[04:10] <AlReece45> brb, loading older kernel
[04:10] <g1gaman> LjL: should i remove automatix?
[04:10] <ompaul> deadhobo, your chatting in a support channel
[04:10] <tiger_> Anybody.-.............
[04:10] <ProN00b> how can i rip that totem plugin out of my firefox ?
[04:10] <KenThomson> !Microsoft ;-)
[04:10] <ompaul> !anybody
[04:10] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:10] <Mouldy> KenThomson: Yes it does.If you read (http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html) it says what is/isn't supported in more detail though
[04:10] <cybergod`> gui is grapich?
[04:11] <deadhobo> ompaul: well, every time I ask a question there is no intrest expressed so I kindof gave up
[04:11] <Kawaii-Panda> deadhobo: lol... i never had ubuntu on a laptop, nor do i ever have a laptop, so sorry i cant help you there. anyways, you should consider turning workrave on all the time, its good for your body. just dont forget to set restbreaks to every 10 minutes instead of 3, k. :)
[04:11] <toddobryan> I'm running Ubuntu in a school lab. I need to set the environment variable SVN_SSH=$HOME/.ssh/id_dsa.subversion, but /etc/environment won't expand variables and /etc/bash.bashrc doesn't get souced by programs that don't run from the shell (like Eclipse). Any ideas?
[04:11] <ra21vi> KenThomson: where do u live?
[04:11] <LjL> g1gaman: well, we usually recommend against automatix here. anyway, try commenting out the automatix repository and the skype repository, then "sudo apt-get update", then try again
[04:11] <deadhobo> Kawaii-Panda: Intresting. What is it? Some sort of game?
[04:11] <KenThomson> Mould: Thank you, i am taking your word for it, and storing all my precious data on a ext3 partition, even to read it from Windows?
[04:11] <X5-452> Is there any linux command for secure deletion (multiple overwriting)?
[04:11] <lupine_85> Shaye: Q
[04:11] <lupine_85> X5-452: wipe
[04:11] <Bacon5o_> if im downloader drivers for ubuntu, do I want XFree86 or X.ORG?
[04:11] <thoreauputic> X5-452: shred
[04:11] <penguin42> toddobryan: Try /etc/profile
[04:11] <ra21vi> KenThomson: where do u live?
[04:11] <ianmacgregor> X5-452: You might try the wipe app
[04:11] <KenThomson> ra21vi: "KenThomson: where do u live?" Wanna come over for dinner?
[04:11] <ianmacgregor> !info wipe
[04:11] <Shaye> lupine_85,  :)
[04:12] <lupine_85> Bacon5o_: X.org but you shouldn't need to in most cases
[04:12] <Shaye> ta
[04:12] <g1gaman> LjL: how can i comment it out, sir?
[04:12] <ubotu> wipe: Secure file deletion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.20-2 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 120 kB
[04:12] <ra21vi> nO, way..
[04:12] <LjL> g1gaman: you add a # before the relevant line
[04:12] <ra21vi> Does all Pen-Tablets have the Wacom chips.... I m getting problem installing the I-Pen Model WP8060(U) ** Help me Out
[04:12] <X5-452> thanks all
[04:12] <Bacon5o_> lupine my card can only go as high as 800x600 on ubuntu, I'd like to hit 1600x1200
[04:12] <Falleth> I have a toshiba satellite 1800 - (?) and the problem is the Trident Cyberblade XPAi1. How can i enable direct rendering?
[04:12] <Mouldy> KenThomson: Obviously, I can't predict the future of your experiences, but in my experience, the drivers works 100% flawlessly. It's like Microsoft natively support it.#
[04:12] <Kawaii-Panda> deadhobo: it forces you to take excercises every few hours, and restbreaks to 'reflect' every few minutes. kind of cool, but if ever it gets too distracting, you have the option to shut it up.
[04:12] <Nust> need help setting up tftpd - iv checked google. but it does not seem to work. any help is welcome. thanks.
[04:12] <LjL> g1gaman: specifically, add a # before lines 66 and 74 (as they are listed in your paste)
[04:12] <toddobryan> penguin42: Same problem. Works in the shell, but not for programs run from a menu in Gnome.
[04:13] <ompaul> hi there people can we stay on topic please - that is Ubuntu support there are plenty of other channels including #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:13] <KenThomson> Mouldy: I hope they dont take it that site off from the internet in the future, that is the only source for those precious drviers ;-)
[04:13] <frying_fish> ra21vi: not all of them will
[04:13] <Bacon5o_> lupine?
[04:13] <ProN00b> how can i remove a package thats in ubuntu-desktop without removing ubuntu-desktop ?
[04:13] <frying_fish> being that they aren't all wacom tablets.
[04:13] <ra21vi> frying_fish: then how to install those which rn't Wacom
[04:13] <LjL> ProN00b: you can't
[04:13] <ompaul> ProN00b, you can't
[04:13] <ProN00b> that sucks !
[04:13] <deadhobo> Kawaii-Panda: Whoa.. cool! I'll have to try that, good plan to get me off my butt ;). Oh, and my problem isn't  only because its a laptop, I am fairly sure
[04:13] <frying_fish> ProN00b: you can't but ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, so you won't lose everything.
[04:13] <Mouldy> KenThomson: There are probably other alternatives that I don't know about floating around the internet. From what I've gathered though, this one is the most commonly used.
[04:13] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[04:13] <frying_fish> ra21vi: does it show in lspci with any information?
[04:13] <ompaul> ProN00b, see what frying_fish said
[04:14] <KenThomson> Mouldy: OK
[04:14] <penguin42> toddobryan: Hmm interesting - I'd assumed that would have got read at some point during startup
[04:14] <ProN00b> ompaul, i know, it still sucks
[04:14] <ra21vi> frying_fish: connected to USB, and shows in lsusb
[04:14] <frying_fish> ProN00b: why, it is just removing that one package, it doesn't get rid of your whole DE
[04:14] <Nust> Need help setting up tftpd - iv gone through some googled tutorials but they dont work for me. (elp)
[04:14] <ra21vi> frying_fish: UC Logic Tech. Corp
[04:14] <Bacon5o_> how to I enable POSIX shared memory on my ubuntu system?
[04:14] <frying_fish> ra21vi: ok, well in that case look for a module for it to be loaded
[04:14] <ProN00b> frying_fish, but i wana keep the meta package, i mean its there for something, isn't it ?
[04:14] <penguin42> Bacon5o_: I think it should be enabled by default - what makes you think it isn't ?
[04:15] <frying_fish> then google that make and its relevant stuff and xorg, see what you get.
[04:15] <ra21vi> frying_fish: hwhere, i X or kernel :( uhh its confusing
[04:15] <daftvader> how do i find my nvidia version in linux?
[04:15] <ompaul> ProN00b, no - the concept of metapackage is just a handy way to install a bundle of packages, if you remove one you no longer have the meta packages package list ergo it should not be there
[04:15] <Bacon5o_> penguin, ATI driver installation requires it be enabled, just making sure.
[04:15] <LjL> daftvader: "apt-cache policy nvidia-glx", if you mean the nvidia binary-only driver
[04:15] <ra21vi> daftvader: xserver-xorg-driver-nvidia something like this
[04:15] <frying_fish> ProN00b: yeah, its there so that when you install it installs that package to give you everything for the DE, but once you have installed the system you can customise it and get rid of the stuff you don't want
[04:15] <toddobryan> penguin42: Yeah, I know. Apparently it's a Debian thing. /etc/environment is the only place to set environment variables that's global, but you can't set a global variable that looks in each user's home folder, for example.
[04:15] <frying_fish> and thus that package is no longer valid.
[04:15] <Nust> help ?
[04:15] <ianmacgregor> ProN00b: That meta package was only there to pull in all deps for gnome desktop. You can safely remove the meta package without harming anyting. However, you might want to re-install it if you ever so a dist-upgrade.
[04:15] <frying_fish> ra21vi: possibly both
[04:15] <Nust> Need help setting up tftpd - iv gone through some googled tutorials but they dont work for me. (elp)
[04:15] <ompaul> !anyone
[04:15] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:15] <ProN00b> ompaul, if theres a new package added to the metapackage and i have removed the metapackage i won't get that, will i ?
[04:16] <frying_fish> as I don't have one of those, I just have a wacom tablet I can't give much more help
[04:16] <Bacon5o_> penguin, I'm fairly need to linux as a whole, is a ".run" an application?
[04:16] <lucasvo> why isn't libdvdcss2 in multiverse?
[04:16] <Bacon5o_> new*
[04:16] <lucasvo> how can I download ist?
[04:16] <lucasvo> !dvd
[04:16] <frying_fish> ProN00b: admittedly no, but you can always install the package manually
[04:16] <KenThomson> LjL: thank you for your efforts i really appreciate it!
[04:16] <ianmacgregor> lucasvo: license issues?
[04:16] <lucasvo> !dvd > lucasvo
[04:16] <ProN00b> Bacon5o_, linux doesn't work with extensions like that
[04:16] <ra21vi> frying_fish: ok, i think kernel handles only USB, so i need X module... but buddy, there is no support for those wiothout wacmo
[04:16] <penguin42> toddobryan: I'm fairly sure that the xdm/gdm/kdm will read an xsession file if you ask it nicely - but I can't remember;  a '.run' - hmm never heard of one of those
[04:16] <Sync> !libdvdcss
[04:16] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:16] <frying_fish> lucasvo: it is, under libdvdread3
[04:16] <Mouldy> lucasvo: It's probably not there for legal reasons. Just google for it, its all over the place
[04:16] <frying_fish> and has a script that you have to run.
[04:16] <g1gaman> LjL: i found no numbered lines in gedit, but i added # in the beginning of the skype and automatix lines. then i did sudo apt-get update, and finally sudo apt-get install libc6-dev g++ gcc .it didnt work
[04:16] <frying_fish> ra21vi: if thats the case, then you are stuck
[04:16] <ProN00b> Bacon5o_, you can't tell from the extension what kinda file something is, however i have seen quite some .run files beeing executables
[04:16] <ompaul> ProN00b, it can and may break updates
[04:16] <Nust> is there another ubunut support channel ??? or is this it ?
[04:17] <frying_fish> g1gaman: don't use automatix, it is very very bad.
[04:17] <Mouldy> Nust, this is it afaik
[04:17] <ProN00b> ompaul, yeah, thats why i don't want to remove it
[04:17] <ompaul> Nust, this is it
[04:17] <ompaul> ProN00b, your call
[04:17] <Nust> Im screwed then.
[04:17] <Nust> :(
[04:17] <g1gaman> LjL: i still get the same: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:17] <g1gaman>   libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.4-1ubuntu9 is to be installed
[04:17] <g1gaman> E: Broken packages
[04:17] <deep-blue>  #fluxbuntu
[04:17] <ompaul> !paste
[04:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:17] <BooBar> try  /list ubuntu*
[04:17] <gnomefreak> g1gaman: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:17] <toddobryan> penguin42: Ahh. That's probably what I have to do. People mentioned that on the forums, but it just clicked what that meant.
[04:17] <gnomefreak> Nust: what is the issue?
[04:18] <AlReece45> ompaul: back on standard ubuntu kernel, headphone/mic port and built in mic still don't work. I appear to be using HDA Nvidia card.
[04:18] <g1gaman> frying_fish: thanks for suggestion
[04:18] <daftvader> LjL: what does this gives me : apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
[04:18] <toddobryan> penguin42: Thanks. Fun day ahead.
[04:18] <Nust> gnomefreak : I am new m8, but I need to setup and use tftpd, but iv tried the googled tutorials, nothing is working and the service isnt running.
[04:18] <ompaul> AlReece45, have you done the double click on the the speaker and checked they were not ehh muted
[04:19] <KenThomson> Mouldy, penguin42, lupine_85, ianmacgregor, Tim90: Thank you all for your help to me, BTW some of my questions at (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1681150#post1681150) weren't answered here, you can be kind enough and hop on to that link to help me.
[04:19] <g1gaman> gnomefreak: nope. it gives me nothing :(
[04:19] <KenThomson> Good night thats it for today
[04:19] <daftvader> LjL: it said nvidia-glx: installed 1.0.8774+2.6.17.5-11
[04:19] <KenThomson> Maybe the BASH shall haunt me tonight ;-)
[04:19] <deadhobo> What happens if you use the wrong modeline?
[04:19] <deadhobo> or a bad hsync/vsync
[04:20] <AlReece45> ompaul, yes, several times. There is only "Master" and "PCM" on playblack. "Capture" on capture, and checkmarks for line in and mic on switches. Nothing is muted and all checkmarks are checked.
[04:20] <LjL> daftvader: that's your version of the nvidia-glx driver.
[04:20] <AlReece45> ompaul, the driver this card uses is the hda-intel
[04:20] <gnomefreak> Nust: hmmmmmm thats a hard one did you try ubuntuforums?
[04:20] <g1gaman> actually i can't see the way the libc6-dev could be installed on my machine anymore :(((
[04:20] <penguin42> KenThomson: You don't need to free RAM - let the OS manage your RAM for you; occasionally restarting firefox I find helps a little since it tends to get bloated
[04:21] <Nust> gnomefreak iv tried all over the net, there ar eloads of differnet ways of doing it, which is making it all the more confusing.
[04:21] <KenThomson> penguin42: I am a heavy multi-tasker, and things like Firefox + some more apps may bog down the system annoyingly
[04:21] <LjL> g1gaman: your automatix -- or something -- messed up libc6, by installing a version that's too high. i'm not sure how to solve that one
[04:21] <daftvader> LjL: yes but what does the + 2.6.17 means?
[04:21] <ompaul> AlReece45, why not do this lspci and paste the output into paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:21] <ProN00b> who the hell put the totem firefox plugin into ubuntu-desktop again
[04:22] <ProN00b> its sooo crappy
[04:22] <ProN00b> nobody wants that
[04:22] <daftvader> LjL: is that what the nvidia driver that is used with the kernel?
[04:22] <dustin> has anyone had an issue with bootup freezing at detecting USB-HID drivers?
[04:22] <gnomefreak> Nust: sorry im nto real sure
[04:22] <penguin42> KenThomson: Yeh, but Linux is pretty good at dealing with swap and memory; but if a program really hogs it after a while (typically firefox) then I just restart it
[04:22] <morphish> KenThomson: how much ram you got? and as long as it does not touch swap, it showing 1MB free is what you want
[04:22] <LjL> daftvader: yes, that means it's compiled for version 2.6.17.5-11 of the ubuntu kernel
[04:22] <ompaul> ProN00b, at this stange you know that this is not a chat channel please treat it as such
[04:22] <g1gaman> LjL: maybe you know somebody online who knows how to fix it?
[04:23] <ompaul> s/stange/stage
[04:23] <Kawaii-Panda> does linux have its own garbage collecting code? i remember reading in some article that it does, but im not so sure.
[04:23] <ProN00b> ompaul, then where can i rant
[04:23] <penguin42> KenThomson: Q5: I wouldn't try a netboot as my first install - its something that you can do after you've got a bit of experience behind your belt; start with a nice simple CD install
[04:23] <reiki> ok... I've decided that Edgy is too edgy for me right now. :) It was working GREAT until I tried to get Wine to run World of Warcraft. THen I broke the whole thing trying to fix it
[04:23] <ProN00b> ompaul, rant is reqired
[04:23] <Tim90> Pronood: jion me at #ubuntu-oftopic
[04:23] <KenThomson> morphish: 512MB, DDR 400 Physical RAM
[04:23] <ompaul> not here
[04:23] <daftvader> LjL: how can i get the one that is compiled for the k7 smp
[04:23] <Nust> gnomefreak : at least you took a second to think about it.. I dont feel ignored any more. well at least for another 5 minutes, then im gona be pulling at my hair again
[04:23] <ProN00b> Tim90, i got banned from there last time
[04:23] <g1gaman> LjL: i cannot install anything with make because of this problem
[04:23] <dabaR> dustin: haha
[04:23] <morphish> KenThomson: and you end up touching (a lot of) swap?
[04:23] <Tim90> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahahahaah
[04:23] <dabaR> dustin: sorry
[04:23] <daftvader> LjL: i used to have it but i think upgrading to edgy made me lost it
[04:23] <dustin> no kiddin
[04:24] <dmb062082> Does anyone know of a random wallpaper application that works, Ive tried many so far, none seem to work, even a few simple custom scripts like http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Randomizing_Wallpaper
[04:24] <adi11235> hi, do you know of a way to "burn" an iso image onto a USB FLASH Drive?
[04:24] <KenThomson> morphish: Doing things simultaneously bogs one down
[04:24] <LjL> daftvader: edgy doesn't have K7 and 686 specific kernels anymore
[04:24] <g1gaman> LjL: and google returns only one suggestion. and its in french or smthng like that
[04:24] <daftvader> LjL: but ... how can I run my k7 kernel ?
[04:24] <daftvader> LjL: I have a dual core AMD. Does that mean I can't run it ?
[04:24] <KenThomson> LjL: I have 512MB DDR 400 physical RAM, 128MB Dedicapted GPU ram through nvidia fx 5200, What do you recommend for swap?
[04:25] <eigenlambda> so gnome crashes if i start it the usual way
[04:25] <daftvader> with edgy?
[04:25] <dabaR> dustin: did you try blacklisting the module and booting that way?
[04:25] <eigenlambda> (upgraded from dapper to edgy)
[04:25] <penguin42> daftvader: It will install a '-generic' kernel that happily likes my dual k7 (although for some strange reason it still had -i386 as default...)
[04:25] <morphish> KenThomson: only if you actually touch a lot of swap would bog you down, linux is designed to use up all your ram even just working in console, since it caches what it can, using up all ram that is available, as long as you do not swap, don't worry about "free memory"
[04:25] <eigenlambda> but, if i use the failsafe terminal instead
[04:25] <eigenlambda> i can dbus-launch an xterm
[04:25] <KenThomson> morphish: ok
[04:25] <eigenlambda> and then launch gnome-settings-daemon
[04:25] <eigenlambda> nautilus
[04:25] <eigenlambda> gnome-wm
[04:25] <daftvader> penguin42: when you run that generic one: do you actually see 2 cores?
[04:25] <eigenlambda> gnome-panel
[04:25] <penguin42> daftvader: Yes
[04:26] <eigenlambda> nm-applet
[04:26] <eigenlambda> and have everything working
[04:26] <dustin> actually, im helpin a friend and it turned out it only froze there because it couldnt mount his root=/dev/hda1 (mislabeled instead of /sda1)
[04:26] <dustin> so how weird, but we got it covered
[04:26] <babo_> what's /dev/rtc ... ?
[04:26] <funkmaster> hi ppl, i got a big problem, wanted to upgrade to edgy
[04:26] <LjL> KenThomson: i have 512MB too and i use a 1Gb swap partition. that's just because it's what the ubuntu installer chose for me, though. i think you'll be fine with anything that's bigger than your RAM... though i do think 1Gb is a decent choice
[04:26] <eigenlambda> question: what else does gnome-session try to launch that is crashing gnome?
[04:26] <daftvader> penguin42: ah ok, I was getting worried that I can't use dual core
[04:26] <KenThomson> LjL: ok
[04:26] <funkmaster> but it stopt saying it couldn't overwrite /usr/X11R6/bin cuz of opera
[04:26] <Kawaii-Panda> eigenlambda: try getting to gnome in failsafe mode.
[04:26] <penguin42> daftvader: Nah it's happy
[04:26] <sticazzi> I have two hard drives: primary drive is a SATA drive (boot) and secondary drive is an IDE drive. I've installed edgy on the second partition on the sata drive (first was windows), but grub was not installed. It either skipped the installation or put grub on the non-bootable drive (the IDE drive)
[04:26] <funkmaster> and now i'm somehow screwed
[04:26] <eigenlambda> Kawaii-Panda: that crashes too
[04:26] <daftvader> penguin42: thankx I will try
[04:27] <funkmaster> apt-get does not work anymore and i don't know what to do...
[04:27] <funkmaster> can someone help me out please?
[04:27] <Kawaii-Panda> eigenlambda: the only thing that crashed my gnome installation is aiglx.
[04:27] <KenThomson> LjL: Now all i need to do is friend someone with a cd-writer, to burn the 6.10 ISO sitting on my HDD and go all Linux!! ;-)
[04:27] <LjL> daftvader: you shouldn't have a K7 kernel anymore (at least version 2.6.17 of the kernel, which is what you're supposed to be using with edgy) -- as for SMP, i think even there, the generic kernel will handle it now. can't swear on it.
[04:27] <eigenlambda> ok
[04:27] <eigenlambda> so?
[04:27] <Kawaii-Panda> eignelamba: but any badly written script could crash it.
[04:27] <eigenlambda> lol
[04:27] <sticazzi> anyone knows how to fix the boot loader?
[04:27] <Kawaii-Panda> have you installed beryl/compiz/aiglx recently?
[04:27] <eigenlambda> so, um,
[04:27] <penguin42> LjL: It does - its happily running smp for me
[04:27] <Asymmetry> Anyone have experience setting up a FreeRADIUS server?
[04:28] <eigenlambda> Kawaii-Panda: i installed compiz in dapper.  but, i'm not using that.
[04:28] <eigenlambda> i was using metacity
[04:28] <dabaR> sticazzi: there are instructions on how to fix grub on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:28] <ompaul> Asymmetry, better to phase a real question - and no I do not
[04:28] <LjL> KenThomson: well yes, there are means to install it without the CD, but they're complicated, and since you also need to repartition, i'd avoid that anyway
[04:28] <lucasvo> anyone experienced problems with libdvdcss2?
[04:28] <lucasvo> it cant decrypt my dvd
[04:28] <dabaR> funkmaster: post some errors to the pastebin from the topic, and also post your sources.list file.
[04:28] <gnomefreak> lucasvo: define problems
[04:28] <Kawaii-Panda> eigenlambda: you could try opening the script you made to make glx work, and put # on the start of each line to disable it. maybe it still tries to load itself.
[04:29] <Kawaii-Panda> it fixed mine.
[04:29] <Shaye> what is the difference between RX and TX bytes when running the ifconfig?
[04:29] <lucasvo> gnomefreak: libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for
[04:29] <dabaR> received and transmitted
[04:29] <eigenlambda> gnome-session crashes, but i can launch most of those programs without it just fine
[04:29] <lucasvo> ...
[04:29] <Asymmetry> ompaul, pointless to ask a question if no one has experience with it, thanks. I'll ask questions how it makes sense to ask.
[04:29] <KenThomson> LjL: Could you please please please please, suggest those other complicated other ways? You could save me a lot of time and effort.
[04:29] <dabaR> Shaye: ^
[04:29] <sticazzi> dabaR: thanks I'll see if this helps, I think the installer needs fixing - should I file a bug report?
[04:29] <penguin42> KenThomson: Given the closeness of your name, I think if you are new to Unix you should read this just for the hell of it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Thompson
[04:29] <eigenlambda> i think you mean xgl
[04:29] <gnomefreak> lucasvo: i guessing you install libdvdread?
[04:29] <thoreauputic> Shaye: Rx - receiving Tx - outgoing
[04:29] <LjL> g1gaman: try this: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libc6" (after fixing your sources.list, but you should have done that already... if you're unsure you've fixed it, paste it again so i'll check)
[04:29] <dabaR> sticazzi: you could.
[04:29] <lucasvo> gnomefreak: yes
[04:29] <eigenlambda> if so, no, that is definitely not it
[04:29] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell KenThomson about install
[04:30] <Shaye> thx thoreauputic
[04:30] <LjL> KenThomson: i'd really recommend against them though, in your case
[04:30] <KenThomson> penguin42: see the difference between Thomson and ThomPson?
[04:30] <Kawaii-Panda> eigenlambda: in beryl, xgl is called aiglx. at least on my installation.
[04:30] <g1gaman> LjL: i've removed automatix and will do as you say.
[04:30] <ompaul> Asymmetry, well in this channel explaining what you want to know means people who have some idea might research and find an answer for you - your method gets no answers that is all :)
[04:30] <eigenlambda> xgl and aiglx are different
[04:30] <penguin42> KenThomson: Indeed - but it was close and I wasn't sure if he had a 'p' until I checked :-)
[04:30] <gnomefreak> lucasvo: not sure its libdvdcss that is causing that issue
[04:30] <LjL> g1gaman: remove the skype one as well
[04:30] <KenThomson> ;-()
[04:30] <lucasvo> gnomefreak: I'm using mplayer
[04:30] <lucasvo> just installing totem-yine
[04:30] <Asymmetry> ompaul, I've been doing research for three days. Prior experience is better than momentary research. So my way gets me less answers, but the answers are more effective. Quality over quantity.
[04:31] <KenThomson> Ubotu, please tell KenThomson about install
[04:31] <KenThomson> ;)
[04:31] <funkmaster> dabaR: here u go http://pastebin.ca/227761
[04:31] <gnomefreak> lucasvo: did you set the region?
[04:31] <bruenig> what is with this please, ubotu doesn't respond to command anymore unless someone says please
[04:31] <dabaR> serious?
[04:31] <BooBar> !ubotu install
[04:32] <Kawaii-Panda> eigenlambda: hmm... probably, never tried compiz before. anyway, gnome-session restores your old session, so if you had run some crashing apps recently, and you had not closed it, it reloads them too.
[04:32] <bruenig> !install
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[04:32] <KenThomson> !Ubuntu
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[04:32] <ompaul> !msg the bot
[04:32] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[04:32] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[04:32] <gnomefreak> ok guys please dont play with the bot in the channel
[04:32] <LjL> KenThomson: basically, the issue is 1) i've never tried any of those methods myself  2) resizing partitions is a sensitive operation, and doing it with awkward setups could be a bit too risky  3) the one non-CD installation method i can think of myself (without looking at the page) is using a virtual machine, but if you mess with partitions from there, bad things might/will happen, since you'd have Windows running
[04:32] <g1gaman> LjL: sir, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29117/
[04:33] <LjL> g1gaman: looks alright, try the --reinstall thing
[04:33] <kodat> hey, how do i delete firefox
[04:33] <penguin42> kodat: apt-get remove firefox
[04:33] <LjL> kodat: "sudo apt-get remove firefox"
[04:33] <KenThomson> LjL: If one can run and Install Ubuntu 6.10 from A VM, than that would be awesome!
[04:33] <kodat> LjL, thanks
[04:33] <ompaul> kodat, sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox
[04:33] <eigenlambda> wow, that's retarded
[04:33] <Kawaii-Panda> omnipotent and all-knowing room, can you tell me what is the difference between aiglx and xgl? i thought they do the same thing, only aiglx is the beryl version of xgl. please excuse thy ignorance. ( sorry, been playing too much nethack. )
[04:33] <gnomefreak> LjL: im willing to bet its teh automatix repo causing that since the skype repos has never installed libc6
[04:34] <bruenig> !xgl
[04:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:34] <xroach> kodat u got wifi working? :)
[04:34] <g1gaman> LjL: it says - Reinstallation of libc6 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[04:34] <eigenlambda> gnome-session launches apps that crash gnome.  lol.
[04:34] <LjL> KenThomson: well, i haven't *tried* it, but i don't see why it shouldn't work. normally, you use things like VMWare or QEmu with a "virtual" hard drive -- but afaik they *can* be set up to use a real drive / partition
[04:34] <ompaul> Kawaii-Panda, go to #ubuntu-xgl thanks
[04:34] <Kawaii-Panda> !aiglx
[04:34] <lupine_85> Kawaii-Panda: xgl is a big window. AIGLX isn't
[04:34] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[04:34] <LjL> g1gaman: uhm... paste the actual error please
[04:34] <gnomefreak> g1gaman: can you pastebint he full error
[04:34] <ompaul> Kawaii-Panda, use a /msg to talk with the bot thanks
[04:34] <Kawaii-Panda> ok, sorry.
[04:34] <gnomefreak> why am i oped?
[04:34] <eigenlambda> actually, i was concerned about vino-session
[04:34] <KenThomson> LjL: Thats it for me now, thank you and good night
[04:34] <LjL> gnomefreak, i believe that too, but never hurts to err on the safe side anyway ;)
[04:35] <eigenlambda> which is supposed to be launched (atleast according to /usr/share/gnome/session)
[04:35] <bruenig> Kawaii-Panda, as far as I have heard. Xgl sets up another x server that runs on top of the original one. And AIGLX integrates with the already existing xserver
[04:35] <LjL> KenThomson: see you, happy partitioning ;)
[04:35] <eigenlambda> but theres no binary for ??
[04:35] <kodat> xroach, nope i didnt yet
[04:35] <g1gaman> LjL: sir, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29118/
[04:35] <kodat> xroach, my wireless at least shows up in network connection..and my drivers are all right...but i cant get any signals
[04:35] <gnomefreak> LjL: if that dont work go with the deb on packages.u.c
[04:35] <KenThomson> LjL: I hope everything ends happily, bye!
[04:35] <Kawaii-Panda> bruenig: oh, ok. so what i thought that they do the same things is right, but they just do it in a different manner.
[04:35] <LjL> gnomefreak: because chanserv op'd you
[04:35] <eigenlambda> but, i modified .gnome2/session
[04:35] <gnomefreak> wait
[04:35] <LjL> !traffic
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[04:35] <g1gaman> gnomefreak:  sir, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29118/
[04:36] <bruenig> Kawaii-Panda, essentially, try #ubuntu-xgl, they will probably give a much better answer
[04:36] <gnomefreak> g1gaman: sudo apt-get install libc6
[04:36] <gnomefreak> g1gaman: what does that say
[04:36] <Kawaii-Panda> k, thx.
[04:36] <eigenlambda> and removed vino-session, but it still crashed.  is .gnome2/session not the place to put your personal gnome session?
[04:36] <LjL> gnomefreak: to me, that error says nothing
[04:36] <kodat> LjL, hmm i apparently uninstalled gxine, gnome-app install..and a bunch of other stuff..thats not good..bad code lolz
[04:36] <amortvigil> hey is there some sort of sony's connect player replacement in ubuntu?
[04:36] <g1gaman> gnomefreak: libc6 is already the newest version.
[04:36] <ompaul> kodat, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to restore normat service
[04:37] <gnomefreak> g1gaman: let me get you a website to download libc from
[04:37] <n1gke> marcin_ant, hello again....
[04:37] <g1gaman> gnomefreak: huh?
[04:37] <LjL> kodat: well yes, there are quite a few packages that depends on firefox. you should always look at what it's going to remove before hitting "Y"
[04:37] <funkmaster> can someone help me with this update to edgy error and apt-get etc being screwed up ? http://pastebin.ca/227761 or is there a way i can undo all the stuff to its previous state before i uses 'gksu 'update-manager -c''?
[04:37] <bruenig> kodat, yeah uninstalling firefox usually is not a good idea. Whenever I thought to do it, it tries to remove a crazy amount of dependencies that you use elsewhere
[04:37] <n1gke> marcin_ant, any luck yet with that mouse ?
[04:37] <kodat> bruenig, yeah im gona have to reinstall a bunch of stuff hehe
[04:37] <LjL> !downgrade | funkmaster
[04:37] <ubotu> funkmaster: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[04:38] <funkmaster> meah
[04:38] <justifier> I am trying to mount a windows share across a network and when i try this is what i get
[04:38] <justifier> adam@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t nfs //TV:Music /mnt/music
[04:38] <justifier> mount: can't get address for //TV
[04:38] <justifier> any ideas?
[04:38] <LjL> !paste | justifier
[04:38] <ubotu> justifier: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:38] <funkmaster> but it is already broken and the upgrade didn't work
[04:38] <gnomefreak> g1gaman: what arch ar eyou on?
[04:38] <penguin42> funkmaster: I'd try removing your opera package and try again
[04:38] <marcin_ant> n1gke: nope
[04:38] <g1gaman> gnomefreak: wtf is arch?
[04:38] <bruenig> funkmaster, fresh install, maybe....?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> g1gaman: 386 64bit or ppc
[04:38] <funkmaster> penguin42: tried aith apt-get -f remove opera-ubuntu
[04:38] <marcin_ant> n1gke: I will wait for native support in xorg/kernel/whatever ;)
[04:38] <funkmaster> but i get http://pastebin.ca/227761
[04:38] <g1gaman> gnomefreak: celeron
[04:39] <funkmaster> same error mesage
[04:39] <n1gke> marcin_ant, sorry to hear that, but give it time and patience as there will be something available soon I'm sure.....
[04:39] <bruenig> kodat, if you aren't going to use firefox and just want to keep your menus clean, you can go into the menu editor and uncheck firefox so it doesn't show up
[04:39] <g1gaman> gnomefreak: i guess its 386
[04:39] <gnomefreak> g1gaman: download this package http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libc6-i686
[04:39] <lobosque> hey guys, my ubuntu is in portuguese and i want to change it to english, how i do that?
[04:39] <LjL> funkmaster: try "sudo dpkg -r opera-ubuntu" (or whatever the actual package name is), then edit your sources.list to comment out the opera repository, then "sudo apt-get update", then try again
[04:39] <POVaddct> justifier: mount -t nfs TV:/Music /mnt/music
[04:39] <penguin42> funkmaster: try a dpkg -r opera-ubuntu
[04:39] <n1gke> marcin_ant, I finally got my optical mouse working in this computer using Ubuntu v6.06 LTS.
[04:39] <kodat> bruenig, im gona use firefox, but i installed a bad plugin that wasnt supported by linux..so firefox kept crashing
[04:39] <justifier> POVaddct,  ill try
[04:39] <Pensacola> I can't seem to get my refresh rate from 60 to 72 @ 1280x960
[04:39] <n1gke> Now to get the wireless keyboard going eh
[04:40] <gnomefreak> g1gaman: after its downloaded sudo dpkg -i libc6....deb  ... being the rest of file name
[04:40] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Pensacola about fixres
[04:40] <POVaddct> justifier: if that doesnt work, replace TV with the ip address of TV
[04:40] <graveson> doe anyone have experience using a bittorrent client (console based) and provide me with some recommendations for dapper
[04:40] <bruenig> kodat, you could have asked how to remove that plugin, I'm sure somebody would have known
[04:40] <lobosque> hey guys, my ubuntu is in portuguese and i want to change it to english, how i do that?
[04:40] <marcin_ant> n1gke: sure... at least I'm happy that I can use ubuntu on my machine (asus p5b with jmicron)
[04:40] <kodat> bruenig, i wasnt sure which one it was..it was flash i think or somehign
[04:40] <n1gke> marcin_ant, nice....
[04:40] <funkmaster> LjL: thx that worked, now i'm gonna c if it works further as well, but thx for the moment =)
[04:40] <gnomefreak> LjL: im willing to bet you can remove libc6 as long as you dont restart (but im not gonna try it)
[04:40] <penguin42> marcin_ant: Ah that is an interesting one to know - it sees your IDE CD ?
[04:40] <LjL> lobosque: System / Administration (or Preferences) / Language support, i believe
[04:41] <Pensacola> my xorg.conf file looks very different :s
[04:41] <marcin_ant> penguin42: yes
[04:41] <n1gke> marcin_ant, my computer is a HP Kayak XU800 with two 733 mhz cpu's.
[04:41] <kodat> bruenig, crap it still closes on me
[04:41] <lobosque> i went there, but the language still the same =/
[04:41] <LjL> gnomefreak: i'm taking your bet, i have a useless edgy virtual machine on vmware...
[04:41] <n1gke> It is/was a server before I got my mitts on it.
[04:41] <penguin42> marcin_ant: That edgy or dapper?
[04:41] <bruenig> kodat, are you sure it is plugins. I installed a whole bunch of extensions right when I got it and it would crash immediately.
[04:41] <kodat> how do i delete plugins from firefox? like flash or other crap
[04:41] <marcin_ant> penguin42: dapper
[04:41] <lobosque> and i have a slave HD, how do i acess it?
[04:41] <marcin_ant> penguin42: eeeeeehhh sorry - edgy
[04:42] <bruenig> kodat, the plugins are in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[04:42] <gnomefreak> LjL: im gonna find out if i can. if that doesnt fix it please join -classroom and have him  join it to i have a few ideas ;)
[04:42] <kodat> bruenig, it was for flash or something
[04:42] <penguin42> marcin_ant: Ah right, I was about to say those broken JMicrons are pretty new
[04:42] <n1gke> kodat, go to the tools tab and select extensions, from there you can un-install them.
[04:42] <bruenig> kodat, flash is supported by linux. DId you get the windows flash or something?
[04:42] <marcin_ant> penguin42: I installed edgy yesterday but dapper was workable only without pata cd/dvd
[04:42] <lobosque> how do i access a slave HD in ubuntu?
[04:42] <penguin42> marcin_ant: Yeh
[04:42] <LjL> gnomefreak: but didn't the manual dpkg -i work? i must have lost that part (too much scrolling in the past few minutes)
[04:42] <kodat> bruenig, right, cuz firefox ased me if i wanted to install plugin and i said yes
[04:42] <bruenig> lobosque, mount it?
[04:42] <penguin42> lobosque: If the master is hda it will be hdb
[04:43] <kodat> bruenig, but then i was like crap..its rob not the right version cuz im on linux
[04:43] <bruenig> kodat, oh, never a good idea to let it install it for you in linux. From my experiences.
[04:43] <dabaR> lobosque: you mount its device node onto a directory.
[04:43] <gnomefreak> LjL: i havent heard yet
[04:43] <kodat> bruenig, yeh i just learned that ll..so it was a plugin..just gotta see which one
[04:43] <dabaR> lobosque: sys>admin>disks, or man mount for cli.
[04:43] <POVaddct> lobosque: look at the output of "cat /proc/partitions" to see which hd* devices are present
[04:43] <Pensacola> http://users.skynet.be/Pensacola/xorg.conf
[04:43] <lobosque> POVaddct i'll see
[04:44] <Pensacola> I don't see the "1280x960" "1024x768" thingies
[04:44] <lobosque> it lists hdb
[04:44] <POVaddct> lobosque: any partitions on hdb or just hdb?
[04:44] <lobosque> hdb and hdb1
[04:45] <penguin42> what is the right thing to do if you believe that a bug you've reported should be marked as vaguely important because of the apparent impact of it?
[04:45] <POVaddct> lobosque: okay, then you would mount hdb1 to a mount point (empty directory)
[04:45] <g1gaman> gnomefreak: sir, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29122/
[04:45] <lobosque> how?
[04:45] <sharperguy> whats the link for flash 9 w/o using Seveas' repo?
[04:45] <kodat> bruenig, crap it doesnt say in /usr/lib/firefox specific plugins..
[04:45] <sharperguy> the zip with the .so in it
[04:45] <POVaddct> lobosque: with the mount command. read "man mount".
[04:46] <lobosque> ok
[04:46] <lobosque> (is there a hotkey to open console?)
[04:46] <graveson> doe anyone have experience using a bittorrent client (console based) and provide me with some recommendations for dapper
[04:46] <sharperguy> !flash 9
[04:46] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[04:46] <bruenig> kodat, what?
[04:46] <gnomefreak> g1gaman: sudo apt-get -f isntall
[04:47] <kodat> bruenig, in the firefox folder, the plugins folder doesnt specifically tell me which plugins i have..thier names are discrete..so i dont know which one is causing me to crash..any ideas?
[04:47] <gnomefreak> g1gaman: wait a min
[04:47] <POVaddct> lobosque: if you are using gnome: i dont know. if you are using kde or xfce: alt-f2: xterm
[04:47] <AlReece45> Which person was helping me with alsa problem? I was about to post lspci, then some processes ate up all my memory and my computer did some wierd stuff.
[04:47] <g1gaman> sure
[04:47] <Uzzi> hi
[04:48] <bruenig> kodat, list the plugins you have. They are generally pretty obvious from the name for instance. libflashplayer.so is flash libjavaplugin.so  is java
[04:48] <abo> bruenig, how can I list the plugins I have?
[04:49] <bruenig> abo, ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[04:49] <abo> bruenig, thx
[04:49] <lobosque> POVaddct mount -t type device dir. what shol i put?
[04:49] <kodat> bruenig, hmm i got..libtotem basic, complex, gmp, mully, narrowspace, nd liblunixprintplugin
[04:49] <Uzzi> I've upgraded to 6.10 and now I can't startup Gnome!I login into the login screen, but it not goes to login splash!Sorry for my poor english
[04:49] <ompaul> AlReece45, what is the url
[04:49] <AlReece45> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29121/
[04:49] <lelaula> anyone has already run a physical parition on WMWare? I'm getting some "error 17"....and would need some help to fix it
[04:49] <amortvigil> how can i install sony's mp3 upload program in unbuntu?? its called connect player
[04:49] <penguin42> bruenig: Careful, it will pick ones up from your ~/.firefox and ~/.mozilla
[04:49] <ompaul> AlReece45, I have to go - call for a car kit to be installed in my car
[04:49] <AlReece45> ompaul: have fun :-/
[04:50] <POVaddct> lobosque: type would be the filesystem type on the partition, device is the partition device (/dev/hdb1 in your case) and directory is an empty directory of your choice
[04:50] <ompaul> AlReece45, you can be assured I won't I have to fix a ubuntu box when I am there :-/
[04:50] <AlReece45> ompaul,lol
[04:50] <marcin_ant> n1gke: don't get me wrong ;) I was talking about my machine because I just bought new hardware...
[04:50] <kodat> bruenig, any idea which ones givin me the crash?
[04:51] <ompaul> !nickspam > oldnick__
[04:51] <bruenig> kodat, I can't imagine any of them causing you to crash
[04:51] <abo> !nickspam > abo
[04:51] <kodat> bruenig, i know its a plugin that i downloaded and is makin me crash..but its not listed its so weird
[04:51] <marcin_ant> n1gke: then I launched dapper live started installation and suddenly installator said that there is no cd :)
[04:52] <bruenig> kodat, what is the plugin you think caused you to crash
[04:52] <dmb062082> Meh, I am going to KDE, goodbye ram...
[04:52] <marcin_ant> n1gke: then I waited about 4 weeks for fix for jmicron pata controller in kernel and had to use dapper without cd/dvd
[04:52] <kodat> bruenig, something dumb like flash or something to view a webpage' stuff
[04:52] <dabaR> amortvigil: You could try installing it inside wine, or look for an alternative. Try googleing a little bit with that question.
[04:52] <n1gke> marcin_ant, not a problem. I go through that all the time..... lol
[04:52] <n1gke> like this box
[04:52] <bruenig> kodat, I suppose it could be in ~/.mozilla
[04:53] <lobosque> POVaddct can i use computer:/// as the ir?
[04:53] <lobosque> *dir
[04:53] <Gassed> hi
[04:53] <Gassed> how do I make an app autostart when the PC is switched on?
[04:53] <n1gke> when I removed the wire mouse, then added the optical mouse, the s ystem boots with mouse error and then continues anyway....
[04:53] <kodat> bruenig, hmm not anything special in there either >.<
[04:53] <POVaddct> lobosque: that is not a directory
[04:53] <bruenig> Gassed, when gnome starts or during boot?
[04:53] <marcin_ant> n1gke: so mouse and keyboard is not something very important but I think that ubuntu should have some gui that could allow to configure input devices
[04:53] <dabaR> lobosque: no, create a dir, sudo mkdir /media/hdb1
[04:53] <bruenig> kodat, ~/.mozilla/firefox
[04:54] <masterninja> allo
[04:54] <Gassed> bruenig: At boot
[04:54] <dabaR> lobosque: then run sudo fdisk -l and see what file system type hdb1 is, and tell us.
[04:54] <noelferreira> o
[04:54] <bruenig> Gassed, what application?
[04:54] <masterninja> how do i run .run files without using the terminal
[04:54] <Gassed> bruenig: /usr/local/sbin/sc_serv
[04:54] <dabaR> masterninja: how do you run it in a terminal?
[04:54] <lobosque> is fat32... vfat
[04:54] <bruenig> Gassed, not sure sorry
[04:54] <masterninja> ?
[04:55] <bruenig> lobosque, yes
[04:55] <eggzeck> Gassed: System->Preferences->Sessions, Go to "Startup Programs"
[04:55] <kodat> bruenig, damn this is strange..i checked mozilla, mozilla-firefox, and even thunderbird..there are no bad named plugins..but i know 100% sure that its a plugin thats crashing my fox
[04:55] <MiguelV> hey guys
[04:55] <masterninja> there must be a auto tarball compiller and installer
[04:55] <eggzeck> Gassed: Then add that command in there.
[04:55] <Gassed> eggzeck: thanks ill have a look
[04:55] <masterninja> i dont get why i cant double click to install a .run file
[04:55] <abo> masterninja, press <alt>+<F2> you get a dialog to run programs
[04:55] <masterninja> oh okay
[04:55] <dabaR> lobosque: I think then, if you mkdir'd that thing I tolf you to that your next step is: sudo mount -tvfat /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1
[04:56] <abo> masterninja, but the file must be executable
[04:56] <apolloturk> pls help.Is there anybody install on Toshiba m70-160 notebook
[04:56] <lobosque> im seeing here in ubuntu page, what about umask?
[04:56] <bruenig> kodat, delete them all. Try to delete them with apt-get as many as possible
[04:57] <masterninja> executable? does that mean a .run file?
[04:57] <Pelo> hey guys
[04:57] <Gassed> eggzeck: will that make it run before a user logs in?
[04:57] <dabaR> Gassed: you can add the program as a command in the /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:57] <Pelo> what happened to the disk manager in edgy ?
[04:57] <bruenig> kodat, for fun sake. Try doing this. "mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.backup" then start firefox
[04:57] <apolloturk> pls help.Is there anybody install on Toshiba m70-160 notebook
[04:57] <kodat> bruenig, how do i delete files, whats the command..so i can remember it
[04:57] <dabaR> lobosque: nothing I dont think.
[04:57] <abo> masterninja, what's the file name?
[04:57] <Gassed> dabaR: Thanks
[04:57] <Pelo> kodat,  rm
[04:57] <masterninja> ndivida driver thingy.run
[04:57] <abo> masterninja, in a shell do: "ls -l filename"
[04:58] <masterninja> nvidia*
[04:58] <Gassed> dabaR: No, that load of text scares me :P
[04:58] <bruenig> kodat, rm
[04:58] <abo> masterninja, you need to be in the same directory for the file
[04:58] <masterninja> kk
[04:58] <lobosque> thanks
[04:58] <masterninja> its on my desktop
[04:58] <lobosque> now i can acess my warez hd :D
[04:59] <kodat> Pelo, so to remove this file i would do sudo rm usr/lib/firefox/plugins/"name"?
[04:59] <apolloturk> hey I cant install ubuntu or an another distro on my notebook.can you help me????
[04:59] <Lyali4ka> 
[04:59] <Pelo> kodat,  for   files requirering  root access : yes
[04:59] <kodat> Pelo, alrighty
[04:59] <Lyali4ka>    
[04:59] <MiguelV> i press ctrl+alt+backspace and appeared a screen with kubuntu logo. i stayed there and now i cant initializate kubutu.. what should i do?
[05:00] <bionic> hello..I just installed ubuntu, but after reboot grubs says, "Grub Loading stage 1.5. Grub loading please wait error 17". I have bootet with a live cd now and im looking at the menu.lst.. Got no idea what may be wrong. Can anyone please help?
[05:00] <kodat> Pelo, is there a command to see what the contents in the plugins folder are in terminal
[05:00] <kodat> Pelo, instead of having to open my file browser
[05:00] <Pelo> kodat,  ls
[05:00] <bruenig> kodat, ls
[05:00] <abo> masterninja, can you do pwd in a shell and tell me what's in output?
[05:00] <Pelo> kodat,   did you get that link ?
[05:00] <dabaR> MiguelV: did you try restarting your computer?
[05:00] <masterninja> ...?
[05:00] <kodat> Pelo, ah yeah i didnt open it cuz my firefox is broken heh
[05:00] <amnezia> upgrading to edgy, a package can't be removed because it's post-install script returned an error. what can be done there?
[05:00] <lobosque> well, now a different question: i installed mercury (the msn client) and i cant open it trough terminal using "mercury"
[05:00] <abo> masterninja, you know what's a shell, consol ...?
[05:00] <Pelo> kodat,  ok , for future use then
[05:00] <masterninja> absalutly no
[05:01] <apolloturk> anybody help me or I'll exit?
[05:01] <kodat> Pelo, yar
[05:01] <masterninja> ive never touched a command line ever
[05:01] <abo> masterninja, ok ... terminal?
[05:01] <masterninja> and i intend to avoide it completely
[05:01] <codecaine> when I play movies there not in sync on mplayer how can I fix that?
[05:01] <dabaR> apolloturk: ask a better question
[05:01] <Pelo> masterninja,  you should learn, it is usefull
[05:01] <MiguelV> dabaR yeah! i press ctrl alt del and kubuntu logo disappears, but when i star, kubuntu logo appears again
[05:01] <codecaine> just upgraded my ubuntu to the newest
[05:01] <masterninja> cant i do everything from a gui?
[05:01] <Kuberr> hi, i have this cnijfilter-common-2.60 folder on my desktop but i want to remove it....however it says acess denied when i move it to the trash
[05:01] <apolloturk> anybody will answer me
[05:01] <abo> masterninja, not in linux no
[05:02] <dabaR> MiguelV: I am not sure I understand what you are asking.
[05:02] <masterninja> but why thats silly
[05:02] <dabaR> apolloturk: what is your mother tongue?
[05:02] <masterninja> no one wants to use a command line thats old school
[05:02] <Pelo> masterninja,  for day to day stuff you won'T need cli, but just like in windows , you'Re better off it you know a little DOS
[05:02] <POVaddct> masterninja: actually, it's very useful. not silly at all.
[05:02] <apolloturk> turkish
[05:02] <POVaddct> masterninja: blah
[05:02] <masterninja> fine
[05:02] <abo> Pelo, what do you mean syng usb flash drive?
[05:03] <Pelo> masterninja,   http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php  just bookmark it in case you ever need it
[05:03] <masterninja> kk
[05:03] <Pelo> abo,  I mean sync not syng
[05:03] <dabaR> !tr
[05:03] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[05:03] <masterninja> im sorry im a windows xp person
[05:03] <apolloturk> hemen nlanyorum
[05:03] <Pelo> BAN HIM
[05:03] <masterninja> i dont understand why anything has to be done  though a command line
[05:03] <POVaddct> masterninja: learn to use the shell and you will see that it is MUCH more the windows' cmd.exe
[05:03] <dabaR> id be sorry if I was like that too, I understand
[05:04] <Kuberr> hi, i have this cnijfilter-common-2.60 folder on my desktop but i want to remove it....however it says acess denied when i move it to the trash
[05:04] <masterninja> cant i just get a program to do it all for me
[05:04] <Pelo> apo I've had some problems getting ubu to properly manage files on flash drivie( both my mp3 player and my thumb drive)  and sync after copying and stuff seems to have sloved it
[05:04] <finalbeta_> anyone here who uses skins on VLC? VLC vanishes when I do it. How do you do it?
[05:04] <masterninja> no wonder noone i know has switched to linux if u have to use the command line
[05:05] <abo> masterninja, tell me how would you compress 1000 jpg file in GUI XP... it used to take me a week... now one convert command do it in a sec
[05:05] <funkja> How would one go about having different start up programs for different sessions?
[05:05] <KingLear> Hello all
[05:05] <niemannk> Kuberr: sudo rm <folder>
[05:05] <apolloturk> there isnt anybody in ubuntu-tr
[05:05] <Kuberr> thx
[05:05] <POVaddct> masterninja: stop trolling. learn and see.
[05:05] <finalbeta_> abo, many programs handle it.
[05:05] <masterninja> >:( fine
[05:05] <finalbeta_> abo, under windows you have GUI for everything, that's not a lie :p
[05:05] <abo> Pelo, can I have a look on what you you mean?
[05:05] <amias> hello all
[05:06] <MiguelV> hum.. dabaR, i was trying to install nvidia drivers, following a tutorial. in that tutorial there was a step tellling me to press ctrl alt backspace and i done it!. then appears a black screen just with kubuntu logo and nothing more... i press ctrl alt del and kubutu reboot. But when i start kubuntu, that black screen appears again! (sorry my english.)
[05:06] <[GuS] > Hi prople. anyone knows how to fix this bug? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kcontrol-autostart/+bug/67609
[05:06] <dabaR> apolloturk: you have yet to tell us what problem  you are having
[05:06] <KingLear> can anyone tell me why is my system frequently disconnectingh?
[05:06] <earthian> hello
[05:06] <dabaR> MiguelV: well, does it offer you to log in to the console?
[05:07] <amias> my dist-upgrade to edgy has all gone wrong , upstart cant see my hardrive . Will edgy work with init instead of upstart ?
[05:07] <KenSentMe> How do i run a program (e.g. apt-get) in english for once?
[05:07] <finalbeta_> masterninja, if you dislike CLI that much, you should just stop. Most things still need CLI. I never have a session without multiple terminals open.
[05:07] <bionic> hello..I just installed ubuntu, but after reboot grubs says, "Grub Loading stage 1.5. Grub loading please wait error 17". I have bootet with a live cd now and im looking at the menu.lst.. Got no idea what may be wrong. Can anyone please help?
[05:07] <niemannk> Kuberr: sorry i meant rmdir
[05:07] <dabaR> KenSentMe: hit alt-f2 and type it in
[05:07] <MiguelV> dabaR no.. but if i press ctrl alt f1 and can log by console, but i dont know what else can i do
[05:07] <POVaddct> finalbeta_: that strict GUI concept of windows think maked it neary impossible to get useful error messages from apps that won't start correctly. on linux, if a GUI app has problems during start, i can at least output something to the terminal where it was started from.
[05:07] <earthian> my dmaid is not working anymore!!! :( i cant install ubuntu on my hdds because of this because there are some issues with edgy.. does anybody know if a fix is coming soon ? or maybe you know what alternatives i could use to dmraid ?
[05:08] <dabaR> MiguelV: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:08] <kodat> Pelo, hmm how do i get ls to work..i did ls usr/lib/firefox
[05:08] <abo> finalbeta_, under windows for example, in Visual Studio.net 2005 you would need to set up the dependency of your projects in a solution .... for some of the projects I work on, to do this through visual studio gui... it takes an hour
[05:08] <dabaR> MiguelV: you could fix what you broke using that console...
[05:08] <MiguelV> thks for your help dabaR, i'll try it
[05:08] <finalbeta_> POVaddct, I do agree, altho I must say that many times I get an error from CLI it's complete garbage.
[05:08] <KenSentMe> dabaR: that doesn't run it in another language
[05:08] <abo> finalbeta_, now with cygwin and unix tools... I do it in a sec !
[05:08] <POVaddct> finalbeta_: for example?
[05:09] <dabaR> KenSentMe: oh...that is what you meant...no idea
[05:09] <Felka> hello, I tried the live-cd of the new version, but I don't get a mouse pointer, and the system is unstable..I use an NVidia card
[05:09] <niemannk> does anyone has this problem: complete freeze of system when issueing glxgears?
[05:09] <amias> ah what the hell i'm gonna do it anyway , it could get much worse
[05:09] <KingLear> Can any one tell me why Ubuntu 6.06 is frequently disconncting, after a through re-install of modems?
[05:10] <polaris> niemannk:not me.even x wont restart?
[05:10] <flo_> how can i make akregator see the flash plugin that i have already installed? i'm on a gnome desktop
[05:10] <amias> KingLear, soft modem or proper hardware one ?
[05:10] <KenSentMe> I get an error installing libfaad2-dev. It says something like: libfaad2-dev: Needs: libfaad2-0 (= 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu3) but 2.0.0+cvs20060416-0.0 will be installed. What can i do to solve this. I'm fully updated and upgraded (except for those python packages)
[05:10] <finalbeta_> POVaddct, can't say one for the top of my head. But many errors are vague or output nothing. The give standard errocodes like  camorama or things like totem just shutting down when the soundoutput is not available. Because it's GUI, windows programs seem to spend more time outputting a message that is usefull to an end user.
[05:10] <niemannk> polaris: nothing works anymore, keyboard, mouse ... unplug..
[05:11] <dabaR> KenSentMe: show your /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin
[05:11] <dcordes> is there a way to edit a windows xp's registry through linux?
[05:11] <abo> dcordes, that's original ;)
[05:11] <KingLear> amias:  its a soft modem
[05:12] <polaris> niemannk:have you tried ctl/alt/printscreen/b.that should give you a immediate reboot.
[05:12] <abo> dcordes, I think I've seen something like that through dos .... long ago
[05:12] <dcordes> abo: what do you mean?
[05:12] <KingLear> amais scanmodem told me to download drivers for it from the smartlink directory at linmodems
[05:12] <polaris> if it doesnt it really is locked up.
[05:12] <overridex> anyone know of a program that will audit disk usage and give an idea of what directories and files are using most of the file system's space?
[05:12] <mariusbm> dcordes, find Hirens`s boot CD on a bittorrent site... 50MB download and you got all the tools you need..
[05:12] <niemannk> no, thx I'll try
[05:12] <dcordes> i need a reg entry for wine. but i don't know how to access it. (the windows is unbootable)
[05:12] <KingLear> amias:  slamr-2.6.15- makes it work fine
[05:12] <abo> overridex, kdirstat
[05:12] <KingLear> But frequently disconnects
[05:12] <dcordes> mariusbm: is it a linux live cd?
[05:13] <KenSentMe> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29135/
[05:13] <finalbeta_> POVaddct, I just started comorama, it tells me this: "unable to capture image" << what does that help. They might as well say, "I don't work".
[05:13] <POVaddct> finalbeta_: okay, that is a problem of this particular apps, but still running GUI things from a terminal if something goes wrong is a good concept
[05:13] <booger> does any know of a good video conferencing app??
[05:13] <abo> overridex, very good one actually, it has been ported to windows, windirstat
[05:13] <mariusbm> dcordes, nope DOS based..
[05:13] <finalbeta_> POVaddct, like I said, I do agree in theory.
[05:13] <Adriano> booger: for linux, ekiga
[05:13] <amias> KingLear, if the system load is high the softmodem can often drop the connection , have you tried reniceing it to a higher priority ?
[05:13] <dabaR> KenSentMe: that is all for sure?
[05:13] <dcordes> mariusbm
[05:13] <boris55> dcordes: try knoppix
[05:13] <Adriano> booger: (was gnomemeeting)
[05:13] <dcordes> no way to access the files out of ubuntu?=???
[05:13] <cherubiel> dcordes: check in wikipedia fr windows registry, there are tools in linux for editing; take a look
[05:14] <booger> does it have support for web cams?
[05:14] <POVaddct> finalbeta_: okay
[05:14] <Adriano> booger: yes
[05:14] <Adriano> it works with mine, at least
[05:14] <KenSentMe> dabaR: yeah
[05:14] <booger> sweet, any speacil one that works out of box?
[05:15] <KenSentMe> dabaR: you miss something?
[05:15] <Adriano> booger: it depends, but check this page
[05:15] <Adriano> booger: http://mxhaard.free.fr/index.html
[05:16] <dabaR> KenSentMe: ya, try with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29137/ it has all the binary repos enabled, source and cinerella and seveas commented out.
[05:16] <kodat> hey where would i download plugins for firefox to view shit on webpages..flash, etc..stuff like that
[05:16] <dabaR> KenSentMe: then sudo aptitude update and try installing again.
[05:16] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell kodat about flash
[05:16] <booger> Thanx, adriano
[05:16] <Adriano> yw
[05:16] <Tim90> it there,any keys to open the terminal
[05:17] <Tim90> like alt=f4
[05:17] <Adriano> might anyone tell me he/she is _also_ experiencing gaim beta4 crashes?
[05:17] <theplatypus> Is there a way to remove the Ubuntu logo on the toolbar and replace it with the traditional Gnome foot?
[05:17] <allad> hi. I've just installed Edgy. And everything is fine. But I have a little problem using firefox with Beryl. When I scroll the page, the CPU spikes to 100% usage. Can you tell me how to fix that?
[05:17] <dabaR> kodat: you need the mozilla-pooOnPages-plugin for that.
[05:18] <spanglesontoast> is it possible to resize the partition I'm working on in ubuntu
[05:18] <spanglesontoast> ?
[05:18] <cherubiel> spanglesontoast: use the gparted live CD
[05:18] <kodat> dabaR, interesting name for plugins
[05:18] <dabaR> kodat: interesting word for page content
[05:19] <spanglesontoast> it possible without a cd ?
[05:19] <Eclypse> congrats you guys, you have the most popular channel on freenode ;)
[05:19] <cherubiel> spanglesontoast: i guess not for / or /home; you could do it for other partitions
[05:19] <spanglesontoast> like ntfs ?
[05:19] <Adriano> Eclypse: yes, and it's making gaim crash _except_ when I try to backtrace it
[05:19] <cherubiel> spanglesontoast: i could be wrong, tried it once; never could do a resize.
[05:20] <cherubiel> spanglesontoast: ofcours!
[05:20] <spanglesontoast> cool
[05:20] <cherubiel> spanglesontoast: non-destructive too!
[05:20] <spanglesontoast> cool
[05:20] <jldugger> how does System->Administration know to run gksu on the programs in that menu?
[05:20] <spanglesontoast> I forgot to make a swap
[05:20] <spanglesontoast> so machine keeps kinda crying
[05:20] <cherubiel> heh
[05:20] <sleazegrinder> What kernel does the latest release ship with?
[05:20] <spanglesontoast> a gig would be good ?
[05:20] <cherubiel> spanglesontoast: :O, 2*your ram is like the thumb rule
[05:20] <earthian> spanglesontoast, how much do you have ram now?
[05:20] <allad> there's something funny with Edgy. I keep hearig a strange sound. Can someone tell me what it is about,please?
[05:20] <sticazzi> I've just installed ubuntu and while it's generally fine, there are major screen glitches on 20% of the screen when set to the native resolution of my widescreen monitor: 1440*900 - My graphics card is an ATI radeon 9200
[05:21] <theplatypus> 2.6.17 I believe
[05:21] <spanglesontoast> 256mb
[05:21] <Adriano> spanglesontoast: yes, 2*RAM is ok in your case
[05:21] <phaedrus44> hello...  are ther any linux packages that rival dreamweaver ?
[05:21] <Adriano> or 2,5 times
[05:21] <spanglesontoast> also not sure how much ram edgy likes
[05:21] <cherubiel> phaedrus44: bluefish, nvu
[05:21] <allad> phaedrus44, try quanta plus
[05:21] <dabaR> allad: that is not a question that can be answered in seriousness.
[05:21] <Eclypse> so hows Edgy?
[05:22] <Eclypse> I haven't tried it yet.
[05:22] <earthian> increase the total memory to 2 gigs which will be ok. so 2048 - 256 = the size of your swap in MB
[05:22] <phaedrus44> quanta kde?
[05:22] <earthian> Eclypse, avoid edgy :P
[05:22] <finalbeta_> Eclypse, very good of everything works for you. But a part of the users have serious problems.
[05:22] <spanglesontoast> well I got the wireless and xorg working after 2 hours
[05:22] <jldugger> spangle, certainly have at least as much swap as you have ram. i actually went with less, and while it's not a problem for me, it does prevent me from using suspend =(
[05:22] <allad> dabaR, I know it sounds ridiculous. But I'm not kidding. The same sound just keep playing from time to time. And I don't know where it comes from.
[05:22] <Eclypse> heh
[05:22] <deadhobo> If I offered to mail a real COOKIE to whoever can solve my nvidia driver problem, would anyone be intrested?
[05:23] <falleth> Anyone else having problems with Ubuntu + Trident cyberblade XPAi1 ?
[05:23] <Eclypse> earthian, I shall :P.  finalbeta_ what kind of problems?
[05:23] <earthian> like not installing coz no dmraid could be ran :(
[05:23] <allad> phaedrus, yeah. But you can use it on gnome too.
[05:23] <Adriano> a cookie from a dead hobo? I think not
[05:23] <jldugger> Eclypse, have you used automatix or easyubuntu?
[05:23] <theplatypus> earthian: that sounds like the best advice I've heard all day
[05:23] <finalbeta_> Eclypse, black screens after booting, upgrading fails with many people, wireless regressions/printer regressions. (bit more unstable software because iot's newer)
[05:23] <Eclypse> jldugger, yes
[05:24] <masterninja> easyunbuntu?
[05:24] <Adriano> nevermind it'd probably get here a bit musty
[05:24] <Eclypse> ah
[05:24] <tuxnal> can anybody help me with the team speak 2?
[05:24] <jldugger> Eclypse, apparently those can easily break things
[05:24] <deadhobo> Adriano: Well.. fair enough I suppose
[05:24] <Eclypse> no, not easyubuntu.
[05:24] <cherubiel> thats why edgy is beta
[05:24] <jldugger> edgy isnt beta
[05:24] <deadhobo> Adriano: I would send it express
[05:24] <Eclypse> jldugger, I bet that is dependant upon what you install, eh?
[05:24] <finalbeta_> Eclypse, edgy already got a post on slashdot for bad upgrading results.
[05:24] <Adriano> deadhobo: what's the prob?
[05:24] <jldugger> Eclypse, pretty much.
[05:24] <Shaye> Can I open a folder using the terminal?
[05:24] <Eclypse> heh
[05:24] <deadhobo> Adriano: I have been trying to get the official "nvidia" driver to work for 3 days solid and have not been able to get it
[05:24] <Lobster> Shaye sure
[05:25] <allad> Shaye , you mean like a "ls folder"?
[05:25] <jldugger> Eclypse, i actually ran into a problem where i had installed "ubuntu-artwork-breezy" on dapper and it was fighting with ubuntu-artwork on edgy
[05:25] <Eclypse> well. . . I'd probably be able to fix a lot of that shit
[05:25] <Shaye> allad, no
[05:25] <tuxnal> anybody got team speak workin ?
[05:25] <Eclypse> I messed around with XGL/Compiz for a hela long time
[05:25] <Adriano> deadhobo: the normal procedure is:
[05:25] <Eclypse> ran into a shitload of errors
[05:25] <Shaye> Same as when I go to Places, and open a folder
[05:25] <Eclypse> jldugger, that's ridiculous
[05:25] <deadhobo> Adriano: I have tried uninstalling, following tutorials, using automatix... just about everything. It didn't work on dapper, and it won't work on edgy either
[05:25] <Eclypse> jldugger, I'll wait a few more months :P
[05:25] <allad> allad, then just spawn nautilus : "nautilus folder"
[05:25] <finalbeta_> Eclypse, getting AIGLX+compiz to work on edgy is a breeze. But I wouldn't touch it all since it's mighty unstable.
[05:25] <LjL> !automatix | deadhobo
[05:25] <ubotu> deadhobo: automatix is a script that tries (and usually fails) to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, and we STRONGLY discourage its use.
[05:26] <curley_sue> hi, can anyone check the following output (trying to upgrade to efty): E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin', which is also in package opera
[05:26] <deadhobo> LjL: I know... we have been over this :p. It's not automatix's fault, trust me
[05:26] <Seveas> curley_sue, uninstall opera before upgrading
[05:26] <Eclypse> finalbeta_ aye, I thought it was on there by default?
[05:26] <allad> curley_sue, it's edgy eft not efty
[05:26] <Eclypse> or that was gossip . . .
[05:26] <jldugger> Eclypse, well, i blame the guy who made the shitty breezy artwork package
[05:27] <finalbeta_> Eclypse, they claimed allot of things for edgy, but they only had 4 months in the end, allot of stuff didn't make it in.
[05:27] <curley_sue> Seveas, too late... already tried the upgrade process. how do I continue if I leave synaptic?
[05:27] <Eclypse> lol yeah
[05:27] <curley_sue> allad, thanx...
[05:27] <Eclypse> jldugger, give it a month, everything should be stable judging by the size of this community.
[05:27] <jldugger> Eclypse, meh. its almost there now, and works perfectly fine on my laptop
[05:27] <Eclypse> even Dapper had it's issues
[05:27] <Eclypse> I ran into a problem where it wouldn't mount root
[05:27] <Eclypse> but I tweaked around with it for about . . . . a week
[05:27] <Eclypse> and I fixed it.
[05:27] <Eclypse> :)
[05:27] <jldugger> Eclypse, its just the upgrade path thats a bit ~
[05:28] <masterninja> do i need a firewall or antivirus for linux?
[05:28] <jrib> !firewall | masterninja
[05:28] <ubotu> masterninja: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:28] <Eclypse> jldugger, better battery life?
[05:28] <amias> since i upgraded to edgy my machine just boots to a black screen and usplash says it can a theme and init says it can find any block devices , anyone had this ?
[05:28] <jrib> !virus | masterninja
[05:28] <ubotu> masterninja: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[05:28] <jldugger> Eclypse, not sure, probably about the same. but the power manager is nice
[05:28] <Eclypse> I'm not touching Linux again untill I see it reach the battery lihfe I get on Windows . . .
[05:28] <jldugger> Eclypse, i get the same life on windows as edgy
[05:28] <KingLear> amias:  Thanx for cinsidering my problem , but I was busy somewhere else, . apologise for delay. NO I didnt do that
[05:28] <Eclypse> I get 4 hours in windows, and I get 2 in Linux . . . .
[05:28] <jrib> masterninja: you don't need to setup a firewall unless you run web services.  Anti-virus, only if you run a mail server for windows users
[05:28] <KingLear> Most of the time the Modem is fine
[05:28] <Eclypse> jldugger, how much is that?
[05:29] <jldugger> Eclypse, 3 hours
[05:29] <masterninja> i just play Nexuiz
[05:29] <jldugger> 6 is i put in the extra battery
[05:29] <Eclypse> jldugger, coolness
[05:29] <masterninja> thats all i do on my pc
[05:29] <masterninja> XD
[05:29] <Shaye> Is there a way to open the filer browser from the terminal?
[05:29] <Eclypse> jldugger, I get 4:30 on windows, 2 on linux . . . .
[05:29] <jrib> Shaye: 'nautilus'  if you use gnome
[05:29] <jldugger> Eclypse, what model?
[05:29] <Eclypse> jldugger, and I use my laptop on campus a lot so, I want my bloody battery life lol
[05:29] <Lynoure> Eclypse: same brightness, cpu scaledown etc?
[05:29] <Eclypse> yep
[05:29] <finalbeta_> I only have one real feature request, get a proper configuration panel so I don't have to waste time on the basics. The cluttered menu's with half baked GNOME preferences don't help anyone.
[05:29] <Eclypse> it doesn't make a difference if I turn the brightness all the way down . . .
[05:29] <theplatypus> Shaye:nautilus
[05:29] <Eclypse> jldugger, Dell Inspiron 6000
[05:30] <basvg> hi all
[05:30] <basvg> I just noticed that sound doesn't work in firefox... it seems to work in all other apps though. Any ideas what that could be?
[05:30] <amphi> Eclypse: that's surprising - the backlight uses a lot of power
[05:30] <jldugger> Eclypse, something like this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron6000-2
[05:30] <trafaelwyr> good morning all.  I have a question regarding streamtuner and an error message I'm getting for stations that stream via shoutcast.  When I double click on the station for it to launch my xmms player, I get the error message "couldn't connect to host localhost:8080".  How can I fix this?
[05:30] <jrib> basvg: is it specifically with flash?
[05:30] <profoX`> what editor should be used in xubuntu, like gedit, but which one is default in xubuntu?
[05:30] <finalbeta_> basvg, firefox sound? You probably mean flash?
[05:30] <Eclypse> jldugger kinda, mine is much better tho
[05:30] <Homer> !mousepad
[05:31] <ubotu> mousepad: simple Xfce oriented text editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 50 kB, installed size 508 kB
[05:31] <basvg> jrib: ummm no.. I just check. It happens on youtube, but also on flash-sites
[05:31] <fredsa> hi guys
[05:31] <earthian> profoX`, mousepad
[05:31] <jrib> basvg: youtube is flash
[05:31] <Rookie_> trafaelwyr - sounds like you have to open 8080 port ...
[05:31] <Eclypse> jldugger, mine has a Pentium M 1.6, with a Mobility Radeon X300 64 mb dedicated, Pro/Wireless 2915ABG.
[05:31] <basvg> jrib: hmmm, then it could be flash-related
[05:31] <jrib> ubotu: tell basvg about flash
[05:31] <trafaelwyr> Rookie_:  how do I do that?
[05:31] <dabaR> I find youtube is java
[05:31] <Rookie_> iptables ?
[05:31] <jldugger> Eclypse, gnome 2.16 has several graphs that can help you debug that
[05:31] <jrib> basvg: follow the directions on the restricted wiki page for using aoss with flash
[05:31] <Eclypse> jldugger eh?
[05:32] <Eclypse> jldugger debug what?
[05:32] <jldugger> Eclypse, for example, there's a graph of power usage in Watts over time
[05:32] <basvg> uh oh ;) thanks jrib I'll give it a shot..
[05:32] <jldugger> Eclypse, your power usage bug?
[05:32] <basvg> bizar thing is that it works on my other box
[05:32] <nashnash> hey im searching for a linux driver for my printer Deskjet 710C .. but i cant find it on hp.com .. someone know where can i find it ?
[05:32] <basvg> oh well
[05:32] <Eclypse> jldugger, ah I see.
[05:32] <Rookie_> !iptables > trafaelwyr
[05:32] <fredsa> I just changed the motherboard in my machine and now the onboard ethernet isn't detected. Knoppix finds it ok. Is there any way I can redectect my ethernet?
[05:32] <jrib> basvg: it will work if you have no other apps using sound
[05:33] <okn> hi there
[05:33] <nashnash> can someone help me?
[05:33] <Rookie_> !ask
[05:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:33] <Eclypse> jldugger, I don't know if I want to try it now though, I Just made an nLite installation of windows (thats the only way I could possibly stand windows, with a 20 second boot up :)    )
[05:33] <nashnash> im using ubuntu 6.10 ^^ and i need driver for my printer deskjet 710C and i cant find on hp.com
[05:33] <okn> i downloaded ubuntu and gonna install..i've only one partition C: . i installed partition magic to make a seperate partition. does anyone know how am i gonna do that ?
[05:33] <jldugger> Eclypse, turning down the brightness is a pretty significant gain in power savings on my laptop, and i hear thats pretty common.
[05:33] <waltzingv> hi all :) suppose I've bought a new laptop and would like to preserve the font settings from my old laptop--anyone have any advice?
[05:33] <Eclypse> jldugger it does that on windows, not linux :P
[05:34] <trafaelwyr> Rookie_: err, I'm still the newbie at Linux here and am not sure what I would need to do. :-(
[05:34] <jldugger> Eclypse, linux doesnt turn down the brightness?
[05:34] <Eclypse> jldugger, plus, my ati's video drivers for windows actually tone it down for extra battery life, and Linux doesn't scale my CPU to 400 MHz like windows does, it only scales to 800.
[05:34] <Eclypse> jldugger, yes it does.
[05:35] <okn> Does anyone know how to use partition magic. please ?
[05:35] <cherubiel> okn: use gparted
[05:35] <okn> cherubiel, is it in ubuntu ?
[05:35] <ortega10> is there any easy way to optimize my tcp settings?
[05:36] <nashnash> hi people plz help me, i cant find my printer's driver for linx
[05:36] <cherubiel> okn: yes
[05:36] <nashnash> deskjet 710C
[05:36] <fredsa> okn, just follow the install procedure. It'll handle that for you. Don't bother with partition magic
[05:36] <okn> cherubiel, easy to use ?
[05:36] <Eclypse> jldugger, I'll brb ima get more hot chocolate :D
[05:36] <cherubiel> okn: maybe you should try it?
[05:36] <amphi> Eclypse: the radeon driver has dynamic clock support
[05:36] <okn> cherubiel, yea but i dont wanna ruin my hdd :0
[05:36] <Eclypse> amphi, really? I guess its only my CPU not scaling to 400MHz then?
[05:37] <sticazzi> what version of X.org is installed with 6.10 / or how do I find out?
[05:37] <okn> cherubiel, cause i only have one partition...
[05:37] <Eclypse> amphi, brb
[05:37] <amphi> Eclypse: man radeon has the details
[05:37] <El_Che> nashnash: not supported bu hplip http://hplip.sourceforge.net/supported_devices/unsupported.html
[05:37] <ortega10> sticazzi: you could look it up in distrowatch.com
[05:37] <nashnash> it means i cant use it on linux?
[05:37] <nasragiel> hi
[05:37] <fredsa> okn, it'll put the new linux partitions after your current one. You should make three, one for root, one for swap and one for home
[05:38] <rem__> nash: The solution was in the /etc/pnm2ppa.conf
[05:38] <rem__> In this document apears the following text
[05:38] <rem__> #-----------set the printer model---------------------------
[05:38] <rem__> # The printer model will normally be set by a -v <model> command
[05:38] <rem__> # line argument. Otherwise, if not set in the configuration file
[05:38] <rem__> # it defaults to the 710/720 series. Remove/comment out the line
[05:38] <rem__> # "version 0" below to get the default choice.
[05:38] <rem__> #
[05:38] <rem__> # If there is more than one "version" entry activated, the last one
[05:38] <rem__> # will be used. The printer version can also be set with the command line
[05:38] <sticazzi> I'm trying to resolve a major glitching problem and I'm wondering if installing the ATI linux drivers would help
[05:38] <rem__> # option e.g., "-v 720".
[05:38] <El_Che> nashnash: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_710C
[05:38] <rem__> version
[05:38] <rem__> #version 720 # 710, 712, 722 also acceptable
[05:38] <rem__> #version 820
[05:38] <El_Che> nashnash: that"s the driver
[05:38] <curley_sue> Hi all, I had some difficulties during upgrade from dapper to edgy. how can I make sure I have complete upgrade?
[05:38] <rem__> #version 1000
[05:38] <rem__> I only have to put the model in the version line
[05:38] <rem__> the tex now is
[05:38] <rem__> #-----------set the printer model-------------------
[05:38] <rem__> sorry ..
[05:38] <rem__> nash:
[05:38] <rem__> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77940.html
[05:38] <stamen> !upgrade
[05:38] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[05:38] <nashnash> thx rem___ ;) ill enter now sec
[05:39] <Eclypse> amphi, I don't have Linux installed at all.
[05:39] <nasragiel> i have an amd x2, so i have to use the amd k7 smp kernel image, correct?
[05:39] <El_Che> !downgrade > El_Che
[05:39] <amphi> Eclypse: you have a 1.6ghz pentium m?
[05:39] <Eclypse> amphi, yes
[05:39] <fredsa> so anyway, can anyone tell me how to re-detect my ethernet?
[05:39] <amphi> Eclypse: then I think windows is lying ;)
[05:39] <sorush20> I hi i keep getting to the message that can't access job control tty turned off what do I do?
[05:40] <POVaddct> amphi: yeah, the minimum freq is 800mhz
[05:40] <Eclypse> amphi, nope
[05:40] <amphi> Eclypse: I have the same, the supported freqs are from 600MHz in 200MHz increments
[05:40] <rem__> i guess you could lsmod .... rmod the module and then modprobe it again ... ?
[05:40] <atlef> nasragiel : it is replaced with the generik kernel
[05:40] <Kawaii-Panda> nasragiel: you can even use the 64-bit-generic kernel, but a 64-bit system is currently hard to set up some software.
[05:40] <Khaaaaan> How do I identify myself?
[05:40] <Eclypse> amphi, well, the frequency probably, but not the battery life, which is all I care about.
[05:40] <rem__> ->fredsa ..
[05:40] <jldugger> Eclypse, 400 mhz is pretty slow.  maybe file a bug when you get a chance @ https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/powernowd/+bugs
[05:40] <ortega10> i'd like to upgrade to edgy, is it safe enough now?  will it be safer if i wait for a few days till everything's patched and taken care of?
[05:40] <atlef> *generic
[05:40] <nasragiel> ok, thanks
[05:41] <nashnash> well rem__ there is "version 710" on pnm2ppa.conf :x.
[05:41] <amphi> Eclypse: there's a lot of tweaking you can do; for one thing, I assure you screen backlight brightness makes a difference
[05:41] <fredsa> rem__, thanks. I might try that
[05:41] <POVaddct> amphi: right, 600mhz. 800mhz is minimum for pentium m 2ghz
[05:41] <curley_sue> stamen, was that for me?
[05:41] <amphi> Eclypse: hdparm can spin down the hd
[05:41] <rem__> ortega -> i just upgraded ... I had to apt-get install radeon packages ..but other than that ok
[05:41] <epp> do i need 3d acceleration for xgl to work?
[05:41] <sorush20> ortega10: it is safe some people are using it with anyproblems.. but other have problems since they might just have used diff unofficial repositories
[05:42] <Eclypse> amphi, I don't really care at this point, I know for a fact linux couldn't get the battery life Windows does on my laptop.
[05:42] <sorush20> epp: yes
[05:42] <amphi> Eclypse: I tweaked /proc to allow the disk to stay spun down for up to ten minutes when on battery
[05:42] <epp> dang
[05:42] <GameZMember852> hello!
[05:42] <curley_sue> !downgrade > curley_sue
[05:42] <amphi> Eclypse: what makes you think that?
[05:42] <GameZMember852> kan iemand me please helpen!!
[05:42] <GenghisKhan> hi all. i dist-upgraded to edgy and i can no longer access a crypted partition
[05:42] <ortega10> sorush20: so if i comment out all unofficial repositories, i should be ok?
[05:42] <Eclypse> amphi, because I tried a lot this year, and nothing worked
[05:42] <Eclypse> amphi, for about 4 months I was attempting to get it working
[05:42] <rem__> ok ...well I guess you hav to google some more then nash, but I saw several ppl where it did the trick ..
[05:42] <GameZMember852> Please somebody.. help me!!
[05:43] <Eclypse> amphi, so I can assure you, it aint gonna do shit without a kernel modification.
[05:43] <POVaddct> !nl > GameZMember852
[05:43] <sorush20> ortega10: comment them out and use the officail repos and also make sure you have uninstalled the packages that are from the unofficial repositories..
[05:43] <GameZMember852> ha nederlander!
[05:43] <GameZMember852> :D
[05:43] <amphi> Eclypse: well, you can't have done much if you didn't even discover the radeon driver's dynamic clocks option
[05:43] <boink> !ask > GameZMember852
[05:43] <POVaddct> GameZMember852: not me
[05:43] <sorush20> I hi i keep getting to the message that can't access job control tty turned off what do I do?
[05:43] <Eclypse> amphi, I know of those, lol
[05:43] <GameZMember852> ik ben mijn registratie code kwijt van Pro Evolution Soccer 5.. (PC)
[05:43] <Eclypse> amphi, I forgot about the terminal command :P
[05:43] <GameZMember852> hoe kan ik aan een nieuwe komen!!
[05:43] <boink> wij spreken geen nederlands hier
[05:44] <boink> vraag maar in het engels, dus
[05:44] <Eclypse> amphi, I adjusted it and it made no difference, kinda screwed up
[05:44] <epp> GameZMember852, Try a pirate site... not an ubuntu channel
[05:44] <sorush20> english please
[05:44] <amphi> Eclypse: terminal command?
[05:44] <GameZMember852> wat?
[05:44] <Eclypse> amphi, aticonfig
[05:44] <epp> GameZMember852, www.crackspider.net
[05:44] <Eclypse> amphi, but what I don't understand is why, Linux can do everything windows can for power management, and yet, it still gets shittier battery life.
[05:44] <GameZMember852> thnx
[05:44] <amphi> Eclypse: I've seen no evidence that it does
[05:44] <graveson> is firefox 2.0 supported in dapper ?
[05:45] <boink> don't think so
[05:45] <ortega10> sorush20: but will the upgrade be easier if i wait a few days till bugs are fixed, or it will be the same?
[05:45] <boink> but you can install it yourself, graveson
[05:45] <sorush20> graveson: no not really.. unless you install yourself..
[05:45] <Eclypse> amphi, well I don't give a shit what you've seen, what I"VE seen is that I get battery life that isn't even great by comparisaon to windows.
[05:45] <boink> !language
[05:45] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:45] <lesshaste> what's the most os X like desktop/wm for linux?
[05:45] <Eclypse> I'm not trying to argue my side here, I just know of what I have experienced.
[05:45] <boink> heh .. gnome? :)
[05:45] <amphi> Eclypse: I've seen no evidence that you know how to configure your system, either
[05:45] <boink> doesn't gnome look "mac" like?
[05:46] <ripp3r> boink it can ;)
[05:46] <Eclypse> amphi, does itlook like I care? I'm not gonna simply insteall linux again just so I could prove it.
[05:46] <sorush20> ortega10: I don't really think so .. as I say some people are using edgy with out anyproblems so I think you should just upgrade anyways..
[05:46] <lesshaste> with the lovely zoomey into the bottom icons thing etc?
[05:46] <ripp3r> boink with the osX icons :D
[05:46] <ortega10> sorush20: thanks a lot
[05:46] <amphi> Eclypse: I think you're just trolling
[05:46] <graveson> boink: is it wokring well, i have been watching the forums and it seems there a few issues, is there ny procedure to follow ?
[05:46] <epp> Eclypse, you just need to install kiba-dock... its like an OSX dock for linux
[05:46] <Eclypse> amphi especially since I don't have the time to spend hours of tweaking my comp.
[05:46] <ripp3r> boink well there are oxs icons for gnome :) but dont know about the eyecandy
[05:46] <Eclypse> epp, umm, why?
[05:46] <graveson> sorush: is there any procedure to follow ?
[05:46] <Eclypse> amphi, trolling?
[05:46] <res0> f
[05:47] <Eclypse> epp, I've installed OSX on my laptop before, lmao
[05:47] <boink> I think you can download the tar ball from mozilla.com
[05:47] <res0> salut
[05:47] <res0> hello
[05:47] <boink> and just extract it, and the binary should be there
[05:47] <sorush20> graveson: for what? upgrading..
[05:47] <amphi> Eclypse: it may be the case that windows has better PM out of the box, dunno, I haven't run it since win98
[05:47] <epp> Eclypse, bcuase you wanted an OSX like linux.. and that is a dock like OS 10.
[05:47] <Eclypse> amphi, ahh.
[05:47] <ripp3r> Eclypse do you have an amd processor?
[05:47] <graveson> sorush20: yes to firefox into
[05:47] <Eclypse> amphi, idkj, I'm kinda sick of using windows, don't get me wrong, but I  think I'm just gonna buy a mac eventually
[05:47] <basvg> oh nice, I reinstalled flashplugin-nonfree and now firefox doesn't see my flash anymore at all (that is, when I go to youtube it tells me to get a newer flash)
[05:47] <Eclypse> ripp3r, nope
[05:47] <Eclypse> ripp3r, Pentium M 1.6Ghz
[05:48] <sticazzi> I've just installed ubuntu: what's the default root password?
[05:48] <alvanson> I'm using dapper with XFS and I want to know how to enable quotas.  Since ubuntu uses an initrd image, it is not possible to pass "rootparm=quota" to the kernel
[05:48] <Music_Shuffle> user password >.>
[05:48] <epp> sticazzi, sudo
[05:48] <ripp3r> Eclypse heh you should have some kind of power management feature
[05:48] <sticazzi> su ... and then typing the user password doesn't work
[05:48] <Eclypse> ripp3r, it scales it, it just makes little effect on the battery life :P
[05:48] <sorush20> graveson: I think you can use klik.
[05:48] <Music_Shuffle> ...really?
[05:48] <sorush20> !klik
[05:48] <ubotu> klik is a simple way to run additional software without actually installing it. For instructions and more information see http://dot.kde.org/1126867980/
[05:48] <Music_Shuffle> There's a command to set root password somewhere.
[05:48] <epp> sticazzi, you dont need to be root. just type sudo <command>. Then it will ask for your password. and you just tpye that
[05:49] <amphi> ripp3r: you have to do quite a lot of tweaking to get the best power-saving out of linux
[05:49] <sticazzi> epp, thanks
[05:49] <effie_jayx> where can I find the list of packages edgy has...
[05:49] <epp> sure
[05:49] <ripp3r> amphi but its so worth all the work :)
[05:49] <effie_jayx> I want to check some packages in the list
[05:49] <graveson> sorush20: klik ? sorry for my ignorance ,but what is that ?
[05:49] <effie_jayx> I am still running drapper :)
[05:49] <deep> How can i check discusage?
[05:49] <deep> (from commandline)
[05:49] <POVaddct> deep: df -h
[05:49] <mjelva> i've got an entry in /etc/fstab that mounts a share on a windows computer i've got. when i bash 'mount -a' it works fine, but during bootup i get the following error:  smbfs: mount_data version 1684370019 is not supported
[05:49] <mjelva> what gives?
[05:49] <amphi> ripp3r: depends - I thought so; the undervolting patch for pentium m is well worth it IMHO
[05:49] <deep> POVaddct: thx :)
[05:50] <Eclypse> amphi, the day linux can do everything both dominant OS's can,  I'll switch back on my laptop, I'll probably have some junk comps in the future that I'll run it on, I enjoyed linux, a lot. but I didn't like the fact that a lot of shit I could do on windows I couldn't on Linux. . .
[05:50] <Eclypse> Macs are looking nice though, :)
[05:50] <sorush20> graveson: http://klik.atekon.de/, you should search for the packge on the google.. seach for dapper .deb firefox 2.0 package
[05:50] <ripp3r> amphi i dont use pentium procs 99% of the time, nor do i own a laptop, so needless to say, im happy with linux
[05:50] <amphi> Eclypse: I'm not a fan of OSX
[05:50] <bdragonmsl> can someone help me with editing my xorg.conf??
[05:50] <POVaddct> deep: do you mean free space or actual disk usage of a directory and its contents?
[05:50] <tony_> looking for a program that can search thrugh folder with lots of PHP files for a text string ..
[05:50] <ripp3r> amphi whats wrong with OSX ?
[05:50] <bdragonmsl> I keep getting this when I try to open it in terminal
[05:50] <bdragonmsl> bdragonmsl@bdragonmsl-desktop:~$ gksudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[05:50] <bdragonmsl> (gedit:2934): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[05:50] <bdragonmsl> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[05:50] <amphi> Eclypse: what can you do on windows that you can't on linux?
[05:51] <epp> amphi, neither am i
[05:51] <deep> POVaddct: Actual discusage :)
[05:51] <effie_jayx> Eclypse that's the beauty of choice
[05:51] <sticazzi> Tony_: use grep
[05:51] <amphi> ripp3r: the kernel is ridiculous ;)
[05:51] <MtJB> bdragonmsl,  what are you trying to fix?
[05:51] <POVaddct> deep: okay, that would be: du -sh directoryname
[05:51] <tony_> grep? can i install that program trough synaptic ??
[05:51] <ripp3r> amphi i can name one thing ..........voice chat on yahoo, and playing some video games :P
[05:51] <bdragonmsl> I'm trying to set up beryl
[05:51] <Music_Shuffle> amphi: Play some games? :(
[05:51] <stojance> How do get 3DDesktop to work? (http://desk3d.sourceforge.net/index.php)
[05:51] <amphi> Music_Shuffle: nope
[05:51] <amphi> Music_Shuffle: get a console ;)
[05:51] <epp> like 360
[05:51] <Music_Shuffle> Lol! Good point. ;)
[05:52] <ripp3r> amphi cedega isnt all that great, but meh i'm not a gamer so i dont give a care
[05:52] <amphi> ripp3r: I don't use proprietary chat doodahs, so that's not an issue
[05:52] <bdragonmsl> MtJB: I'm trying to edit it to add some code for beryl
[05:52] <POVaddct> tony_: grep is surely installed by default
[05:52] <ripp3r> amphi your using an IRC client :P
[05:52] <mjelva> i'm trying to mount a samba share through /etc/fstab. it works fine when i bash 'mount -a', but during bootup i get "smbfs: mount_data version 1684370019 is not supported". i can't find anything about it on google. anyone know what this is about?
[05:52] <tony_> is it GUI .or is it shell ?
[05:52] <MtJB> bdragonmsl  try sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:53] <fredsa> Eclypse, you should report your problems to launchpad. They might not be aware of the problem.
[05:53] <epp> tony_, synaptic is GUI
[05:53] <stojance> Music_Shuffle: Get the latest Mandriva it has a program for playing games like Counter Strike and Battlefield!
[05:53] <POVaddct> ripp3r: irc is not proprietary, its an open standard
[05:53] <amphi> ripp3r: irc is not a proprietary protocol
[05:53] <ripp3r> amphi true
[05:53] <bdragonmsl> MtJB: tried that too, it does the same thing
[05:53] <tony_> yes.. but im asking about grep
[05:53] <mjelva> hang on. 1684370019 is getting me something. brb.
[05:53] <Music_Shuffle> stojance, he just asked what I couldn't do, not whether or not I WANTED to do it. xD
[05:53] <stojance> OK
[05:53] <MrRio> how do I make popup boxes like the ones that appear when you need an update?
[05:53] <nasragiel> can i change the upstart image?
[05:53] <stojance> but you can play games!
[05:53] <ripp3r> amphi your telling me you dont use msn, yahoo , google talk, aim or anything but irc?
[05:53] <amphi> Music_Shuffle: true, and those are things that some people want to do
[05:53] <MrRio> is that using notification-daemon or something?
[05:54] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah
[05:54] <sorush20> I hi i keep getting to the message that can't access job control tty turned off what do I do?
[05:54] <amphi> Music_Shuffle: and windows is available for them ;)
[05:54] <tony_> ok, grep is shell based.. is there anything like GREP that is GUI ???
[05:54] <ripp3r> amphi there is another solution Vmware :)
[05:54] <amphi> ripp3r: nope, irc is quite enough of a time waster ;)
[05:54] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah. Or OS X or whatever they want. ;D
[05:54] <amphi> ripp3r: qemu shurely
[05:55] <DarkFlib> vmware server is free...
[05:55] <ripp3r> amphi im not too sure how qemu or vmware would run a guest os on this 1.3ghz duron w/ 512mb ram
[05:55] <DarkFlib> there is also xen if you have virtualisation extensions
[05:55] <POVaddct> DarkFlib: but closed source
[05:55] <earthian> vmware server is for non graphic-heavy apps
[05:55] <amphi> DarkFlib: only free as in crack ;)
[05:55] <stojance> OS X & linux are the best OSs
[05:55] <fredsa> DarkFlib, yes but not Free
[05:55] <ripp3r> xen is teh pwn!
[05:55] <basvg> ahhh ok, here is the problem... reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree => leaves /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree totally empty.. aparently the download fails
[05:55] <DarkFlib> qemu's kernel extension is also closed source
[05:55] <POVaddct> DarkFlib: and it taints your system with a nice kernel module :(
[05:55] <amphi> DarkFlib: indeed
[05:55] <blastermaster> hi ubunters
[05:55] <earthian> vmware is free
[05:55] <earthian> open source even
[05:55] <Music_Shuffle> Hai.
[05:55] <MtJB> ripper:  is the pwn better than da bomb?
[05:55] <DarkFlib> so its a case of take your pick
[05:55] <mypapit> blastermaster: hi
[05:56] <ripp3r> MtJB in my world, yes
[05:56] <fredsa> DarkFlib, well true FOSS otakus don't run that either :p
[05:56] <voltage> hey guys
[05:56] <MtJB> mo betta da kine
[05:56] <basvg> so I guess I should manually download + install a flashplayer
[05:56] <blastermaster> does anyone have issuess with flash not fuctioning with aoss?
[05:56] <ripp3r> MtJB you from HI ?
[05:56] <blastermaster> on edgy
[05:56] <POVaddct> DarkFlib: there is qemu for widows, so you could do the same with qemu
[05:56] <emu_> hello
[05:56] <MtJB> ripp3r   in a past life
[05:56] <POVaddct> *windows :)
[05:56] <fredsa> blastermaster, I stopped getting sound on flash videos recently, still on dapper
[05:56] <ripp3r> MtJB lol
[05:57] <basvg> jrib: you may want to know that the flashplugin-nonfree is borked, I'll just try a manual install of flash9
[05:57] <ayaa> i've upgraded from dapper to edgy and now am getting my mouse freezing some times
[05:57] <RandomDude16> how do I get beryl to start up when I log in KDE?
[05:57] <ripp3r> teh pwn will pwn teh bomb :)
[05:57] <luz> i have problemm with launching azureus. in terminal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29154/ . what do you propose?
[05:57] <ayaa> anyone got the same case ?
[05:57] <MtJB> heh
[05:57] <jrib> !flash9 > basvg
[05:57] <RandomDude16> ayaa: Do a clean install.
[05:57] <voltage> Can anyone walk me through setting up my video card drivers in Ubuntu?
[05:57] <Eclypse> k I'm gonna head out all
[05:57] <Eclypse> peace
[05:57] <RandomDude16> voltage: ati or nvidia?
[05:57] <Music_Shuffle> Bai.
[05:57] <pwnguin> luz try moving .azurues to something else
[05:57] <epp> fredsa, try running "killall esd" and stopping all programs that make sound.
[05:57] <earthian> i would recommend using flash from macrodobia website... compile it and install.
[05:57] <Music_Shuffle> Randomdude16, the same way you get all others to start on startup? >.>
[05:57] <jrib> basvg: yeah it depends on what adobe does on their end which is bad.  Manual install of flash9 is ok, but I sent you a page with a package if you prefer
[05:57] <voltage> nvidia 7300 LE
[05:57] <funkmaster> man o man how can  be such a bad ugrade be released...
[05:58] <RandomDude16> voltage: just do apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:58] <amphi> funkmaster: what happened?
[05:58] <DarkFlib> POVaddct: you are correct, but I have further constraints
[05:58] <RandomDude16> then nvidia-glx-config
[05:58] <RandomDude16> that worked for me
[05:58] <pwnguin> luz, i had the same problem, renamed .azureus, and the problem fixed itself
[05:58] <MtJB> i can't even type "teh pwn" cuzz damn xchat typo fixer
[05:58] <funkmaster> trying to ugrade to edgy since 4 hours
[05:58] <voltage> really new at this
[05:58] <POVaddct> DarkFlib: let me guess... usb?
[05:58] <luz> pwnguin - what exactly should i rename?
[05:58] <funkmaster> and just read the article on slashdot
[05:58] <skeff> I want someone tp upload a file to my computer thru the internet. What is the easiest way of doing that? Security of content is not an issue.
[05:58] <basvg> jrib: awww that is great! thanks :) saves me some trouble :-)
[05:58] <funkmaster> so maaaany problems :(
[05:58] <epp> funkmaster, i just did a clean install. I try to avoi the hassle
[05:58] <voltage> Random do I type that in a command window?
[05:58] <pwnguin> luz, mv ~/.azureus ~/.azurues.old
[05:58] <MtJB> what do slashdot have to say?
[05:59] <earthian> funkmaster, i was upgrading to edgy for about a day or so... now i am in need to reinstall :/
[05:59] <fredsa> voltage, yes
[05:59] <archangelpetro> what does the 'alternate' .iso do? (i mean what's the difference between alternate and server/desktop)??
[05:59] <tony_> any program like GREP , that comes with Graphica User Interface ????
[05:59] <amphi> funkmaster: really? dist-upgrade's should be effortless
[05:59] <funkmaster> yeah seems like all upgrades fail
[05:59] <funkmaster> amphi: no way
[05:59] <DarkFlib> POVaddct: thats one... also iscsi and a few other things...
[05:59] <funkmaster> even opera is a problem
[05:59] <POVaddct> DarkFlib: i see
[05:59] <amphi> funkmaster: always have been for me on debian
[05:59] <earthian> amphi, dist-upgrade did not work for me at all...
[05:59] <pwnguin> funkmaster, im hearing that automatix / easyubuntu, while popular, are a common root cause of that
[05:59] <funkmaster> very disapointing
[05:59] <epp> tony_, look aup linux search program
[05:59] <funkmaster> don't have that
[05:59] <fredsa> voltage, but you need to proceed the command with sudo
[06:00] <tony_> thanks.
[06:00] <DarkFlib> its gonna be a while until I'm 100% taint free.. but I'm working towards it
[06:00] <POVaddct> tony_: in xfce3, there was a tool called xfglob. i don't know if xfce4 still has it.
[06:00] <MrRio> how do I send messages to the notification-daemon from the shell?
[06:00] <MtJB> it just dawned on me, this is not the best place to ask flightgear questions
[06:00] <Music_Shuffle> heh
[06:00] <funkmaster> rn't upgrades tested or sumthing?
[06:00] <Music_Shuffle> yes
[06:00] <ndiswrappe1> when i type -> sudo dist-upgrade .. I get The following packages have been kept back: (20 Listed Package) .. How can I fix this?
[06:00] <luz> pwnguin - works, thanks
[06:00] <MtJB> funkmaster:  not well, for sure
[06:01] <jrib> ndiswrappe1: pastebin the full error and link the room please
[06:01] <funkmaster> ndiswrappe1: 4get i tand do a reinstall
[06:01] <tony_> im new to linux .. is best for me to use GUI type prgrams rather then shell .
[06:01] <CrazY_Sm0ke> Hello!
[06:01] <voltage> says could not open lock file and are you root?
[06:01] <fredsa> voltage, you might also need to enable the non-free repository. It's probably easier to do it through synaptic. Go to system->administration->synaptic from the top panel
[06:01] <jrib> tony_: use what you prefer
[06:01] <CrazY_Sm0ke> Help me, please.
[06:01] <ndiswrappe1> brb
[06:01] <MrKeuner> hi, trying to compile a deb package i get this error when I run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot: dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open debian/changelog to find format: No such file or directory
[06:01] <MrKeuner> dpkg-buildpackage: unable to determine source package is
[06:01] <MrKeuner> What is the problem again?
[06:01] <Music_Shuffle> Crazy_, with..?
[06:01] <voltage> ok fredsa I can get synaptic up
[06:01] <MtJB> tony_,   depends on what you are most comfortable with
[06:01] <tony_> problme is that , i have no clue whats out there , with the wired names that linux program got .. is more confusing
[06:01] <MtJB> if you are a cli god, why bother, but most users perfer the gui
[06:02] <Bac9> how do you set framebuffer resolution for ati modules?
[06:02] <funkmaster> tony_ if u r new o linux, start with gui and try out some shell stuff
[06:02] <CrazY_Sm0ke> I want to install ati video driver on Ubuntu.
[06:02] <funkmaster> u will c that shell has more to offer but gui is much easier..
[06:02] <krazykit> tony_: that's what searching in synaptic is for.  search for what you want to do.
[06:02] <tony_> thats what im aiming for .
[06:02] <Jurt> hi
[06:02] <Music_Shuffle> hi.
[06:02] <blastermaster> can some one help me configure flash 7 with software mixing?
[06:02] <CrazY_Sm0ke> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[06:02] <MrKeuner> !help
[06:02] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:02] <fredsa> tony_, I generally use the gui, but often help in the fora is given in the form of terminal commands so it's useful to have a basic understanding of the shell
[06:02] <voltage> fredsa can I PM you?
[06:03] <Jurt> I had this problem when I tried to excute kaffeine on ubuntu edgy eft.. : trying to create local folder /home/orion/.kde/share: Permission denied
[06:03] <krazykit> blastermaster: flash7 is junk.  get the flash9 beta.  it uses alsa which should use your sofware mixing out of the box
[06:03] <Jurt> anyone knows what can be the problem
[06:03] <POVaddct> tony_: using the shell is much better for automated tasks, like renaming 1000+ files
[06:03] <CrazY_Sm0ke> There are two driver/ For X.Org and XFree86/
[06:03] <funkmaster> is there a way to test if my system would boot correctly before i really restart?
[06:03] <fredsa> voltage, sure
[06:03] <tony_> i would like to learn shell at one point, but right now , i just need to do few things in linux , to get things working
[06:03] <POVaddct> tony_: as grep is mostly used in shell scripts, it is a command line tool too
[06:04] <CrazY_Sm0ke> What from them will approach to Ubuntu
[06:04] <Jurt> I had this problem when I tried to excute kaffeine on ubuntu edgy eft.. : trying to create local folder /home/jurt/.kde/share: Permission denied
[06:04] <emo> my sound card doesn't work after I tryed to use wengo so what I have to do to go back to default..?
[06:04] <Jurt> anyone knows what can be the problem
[06:04] <tony_> mian reason for linux installation , was to test few php script .. and do some modification .. i don't want to install apache and other stuff , on window ..
[06:04] <krazykit> Jurt: try making the folder yourself.
[06:05] <earthian> my dmaid is not working anymore!!! :( i cant install ubuntu on my hdds because of this because there are some issues with edgy.. does anybody know if a fix is coming soon ? or maybe you know what alternatives i could use to dmraid ?
[06:05] <RobHu> Could someone please point me to where I can find out how to make the open source ATI driver be used?
[06:05] <archangelpetro> in the download area there are 3 versions of the amd64 iso... 'alternate' || 'server' || 'desktop' ... what's the alternate one optimised for?
[06:05] <Jurt> I had also other msgs
[06:05] <blastermaster> ?
[06:05] <emo> my sound card doesn't work after I tryed to use wengo so what I have to do to go back to default..?
[06:05] <RalleAb> hello. I read this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu and added windows into the grub menu but grub says its an unknown partition type. And I am sure I pointed it right.
[06:05] <Jurt> kdeinit: Aborting. bind() failed: : Permission denied
[06:05] <blastermaster> ff
[06:05] <morphish> RalleAb: rootnoverify is needed for ntfs partitions
[06:05] <jcorgan> I have a seriously broken breezy->edgy upgrade on a server with software RAID1 as the root partition, anyone want to slog through it with me?
[06:05] <earthian> archangelpetro, alternate is for lowend PCs like pentium II or so
[06:06] <screechingcat> RalleAb: windows would have been detected and added by default
[06:06] <archangelpetro> thanks earthian
[06:06] <earthian> you need desktop iso
[06:06] <earthian> :)
[06:06] <RalleAb> morphish: it's just weird that it all worked before edge eft
[06:06] <nasragiel> can i change the upstart image?
[06:06] <Jurt> is this dependcy thing
[06:06] <TankEnMate> adios
[06:06] <screechingcat> jcorgan: u shouldnt have done a breezy > edgy
[06:06] <jrib> what is the name of a program to display text in X?  Sort of like an overlay
[06:06] <archangelpetro> or server ;)
[06:06] <RalleAb> !rootnoverify
[06:06] <amphi> jrib: xosd ?
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rootnoverify - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <jcorgan> screechingcat: no shit
[06:07] <codezero> hi there. i have a question...i am using edgy and when i try to add some new cmd to sessions startup programs. i see it on the list at first place
[06:07] <codezero> but when i log out and log back in
[06:07] <screechingcat> jcorgan: dapper to edgy is leaving many people with badly broken systems
[06:07] <jrib> amphi: thanks, that's what I was looking for
[06:07] <cwh1947> anyone recommend a good banking-checking application that runs on gnome?
[06:07] <screechingcat> jcorgan: breezy to edgy must be a hundered times as bad
[06:07] <morphish> RalleAb: not sure never ran any other ubuntu before, anyway the root (hdX,Y) needs to be rootnoverify (hdX,Y) just find the line and add noverify to it, then boot it
[06:07] <emo> any can you please answer me ?
[06:07] <codezero> i cannot see what i added to the list
[06:07] <screechingcat> jcorgan: do a fresh reinstall
[06:07] <RalleAb> ah thanks
[06:08] <Music_Shuffle> screechingcat, since he's in here, something clearly broke along the way...
[06:08] <jcorgan> schreechingcat: so I've read.  it's pretty bizarre, i'm getting all sorts of ATA failure messages but if I boot from a Knoppix rescue CD I can see everything fine
[06:08] <codezero> why i cannot add anything new to the session startup programs?
[06:08] <RalleAb> I will try to restart now then
[06:08] <manuel_> hi
[06:08] <Blacken> Is there an apt command that spits out the names--only the names--of all packages installed on a machine? (If there's one that might spit out the names of all non-standard packages, I'll dance a frigging jig...)
[06:08] <fredsa> voltage, you might find this howto useful: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[06:08] <manuel_> i need help ^^
[06:08] <manuel_> can someone tell me how to update ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10?
[06:08] <codezero> well actually i can add it but the next time i log in i dont see what i added to session startup programs on the list
[06:09] <screechingcat> jcorgan: download an edgy alt cd and do a fresh install
[06:09] <nasragiel> what have i to install to play mp3s? :/
[06:09] <porkpie> guy's how would I start freeradius with the -x option under ubuntu ???
[06:09] <fredsa> voltage, it's for dapper but I suspect it will apply to edgy as well. You'll have to use the terminal but if you just copy/paste you'll be fine
[06:09] <manuel_> but i dont want to install it new
[06:09] <Felka> hello, can I access a windows partition in ubuntu?
[06:09] <java_dada> i am facing lots when attaching 2nd sata hdd
[06:09] <screechingcat> manuel_: just run gksu "update-manager -c"
[06:09] <java_dada> i am facing lots when attaching 2nd sata hdd
[06:09] <manuel_> to 6.06 there weren option in the update utility
[06:09] <screechingcat> Felka: yes
[06:09] <Music_Shuffle> Felka: yea.
[06:09] <java_dada> Ubuntu allways crashes
[06:09] <voltage> Do I want the Nvidia Binary Xfree86 4.X Driver for my 7300 LE?
[06:09] <java_dada> Ubuntu allways crashes
[06:09] <emo> so again my sound card doesn't work anymore after I tryed to use wengo how can I go back to default ?
[06:10] <Felka> thanks
[06:10] <java_dada> i am facing lots when attaching 2nd sata hdd
[06:10] <java_dada> Ubuntu allways crashes
[06:10] <jcorgan> screechingcat: what's different about the alt CD that would make it work to see the drives?  Just asking before I spend 2 hrs downloading the ISO
[06:10] <java_dada> Ubuntu allways crashes
[06:10] <java_dada> Ubuntu allways crashes
[06:10] <java_dada> i am facing lots when attaching 2nd sata hdd
[06:10] <manuel_> ./ignore java_dada
[06:10] <voltage> Thanks fredsa, checking out the URL now
[06:10] <manuel_> hello?
[06:10] <POVaddct> manuel_: updating from dapper to edgy seems to have its issues. i would keep dapper for a while. if you have a spare machine, test the update there and see if it works.
[06:10] <Felka> I have to choose how large I should make the ubuntu partition, is it ok to make it small (3 gig or so) and then use the windows parition for storage of large files?
[06:10] <fredsa> voltage, there's only one nvidia driver for all cards
[06:11] <overridex> abo: thanks, i'll try it :)
[06:11] <ubuntu_crash> i am facing lots when attaching 2nd sata hdd
[06:11] <manuel_> ok.
[06:11] <emo> java_dada: do you think you can help me ?
[06:11] <manuel_> thanks
[06:11] <manuel_> so another question
[06:11] <screechingcat> jcorgan: its not about the alt cd. u can use the live if u want. its just that a fresh install always has no problems whereas an upgrade is just filled with broken crap
[06:11] <ubuntu_crash> emo: pl ask me
[06:11] <Blacken> ubuntu_crash: You were heard the first time. Ask a question or give it up.
[06:11] <^punisher> hi
[06:11] <porkpie> connection dropped ...
[06:11] <ubuntu_crash> i am facing lots when attaching 2nd sata hdd  is there any bug in ubuntu ?
[06:11] <_Spire_> Blacken: dpkg --get-selections will list all installed packages
[06:11] <Blacken> _Spire_: Thank you.
[06:12] <porkpie> how would I start freeradius with a -x under ubuntu ??
[06:12] <^punisher> I'll find out
[06:12] <manuel_> in fedora core 6 i've seen glx-style motions to be pre-installed. i heard ubuntu also got them. i'm sure i've seen them somewhere without installing xgl... someone knows where they are?
[06:12] <porkpie> the normal command is radiusd -x
[06:12] <emo> hello guys anyone can help me ??? please.
[06:12] <ubuntu_crash> i wasted so much time with ubuntu
[06:12] <ubuntu_crash> i am facing lots when attaching 2nd sata hdd  is there any bug in ubuntu ?
[06:12] <jcorgan> screechingcat: it's worse than that, though, booting from the kernel on a live 6.10 CD, it can't access the SATA drives (they spew out handling errors to the console), yet booting from 2.6.10 on Knoppix CD lets me see and access everything with no errors
[06:12] <Blacken> ubuntu_crash: Why don't you go look at the bug reports and SEE?
[06:12] <RalleAb> I just booted and it still wont work.
[06:13] <screechingcat> jcorgan: what about a 6.06 live cd ?
[06:13] <|rt|> hehe for some reason edgy didn't change the clock yesterday...so I go to adjust the time and the bug reporting tool pops up
[06:13] <ubuntu_crash> this is really bad ubuntu works only with one hdd
[06:13] <POVaddct> manuel_: sorry, no idea. my gfx hardware isn't 3d accelerated at all, so i don't care about anything GL based.
[06:13] <screechingcat> jcorgan: or a 6.06 alt cd ?
[06:13] <fourat> am getting problems with mouse on edgy :( it works fine some 5 minutes before it freezes forever and force me to restart my computer, anyone can help ?now my mouse is blocked, am using only my keyboard, how can i debug this situation ?
[06:13] <jcorgan> schreechingcat: haven't tried, but I'd bet it would work
[06:13] <codezero> can someone tell me why i cannot add anything to the startup programs list on the system-preferences-session
[06:13] <Blacken> ubuntu_crash: Wrong. I have a machine running it with four SATA drives.
[06:13] <RalleAb> my c-drive is /dev/hda2 so do I say rootnovertify (hd0,2) ?
[06:13] <manuel_> damn
[06:13] <manuel_> tjhx
[06:14] <screechingcat> jcorgan: i recommend u keep 6.06 upgrading to edgy is just not worth it at the moment
[06:14] <POVaddct> manuel_: but there are 1000+ other people here :)
[06:14] <ubuntu_crash> Blacken: is it Seagate sata HDD ?
[06:14] <_Luks> hi
[06:14] <Blacken> ubuntu_crash: One is, I believe.
[06:14] <screechingcat> jcorgan: maybe when the first big  update line for 6.10 comes out (6.10.1 i guess) then u can update
[06:14] <_Luks> which command i use to stop a module from running ?
[06:14] <fourat> anyone can help me ?
[06:14] <fourat> am getting problems with mouse on edgy :( it works fine some 5 minutes before it freezes forever and force me to restart my computer, anyone can help ?now my mouse is blocked, am using only my keyboard, how can i debug this situation ?
[06:15] <screechingcat> fourat: usb mouse ?
[06:15] <_Luks> which command i use to stop a module from running ?
[06:15] <fourat> screechingcat, yes
[06:15] <jcorgan> scheechingcat: yeah, and running edgy "unstable" was working so well until the release candidate :( Guess I'll use the Knoppix CD to mount the drives, run ssh-server, and backup up everythign to another machine, then do a fresh install
[06:15] <fourat> _Luks, modprobe -r yourmodule
[06:15] <screechingcat> fourat: unplug it and put it back in. i have that prob all the time
[06:15] <_Spire_> screechingcat: it really depends on your hardware... I have a really, _really_ well supported hardware platform, and everything works flawlessly for me.  on PPC, everything borks when I update
[06:15] <_Luks> fourat, thx
[06:15] <Znortfl> Evening fellow ubuntu-users. I have upgraded to Eft and installed beryl. Now I want the command "beryl-manager" to be runned everytime I login. Where do I configure this?
[06:15] <fourat> screechingcat, did it and no new
[06:16] <ubuntu_crash> i am facing lots when attaching 2nd sata hdd  is there any bug in ubuntu ?
[06:16] <emo> anyone help me, how can I get to defualt on the way that my sound card work again I had tryed to set up wengoo after that my sound card doesn't work ....any idea what's going on ????
[06:16] <_Spire_> Znortfl: are you running gnome?
[06:16] <zlack> would you guys prefer aixgl over xgl with fglrx?
[06:16] <_Luks> fourat, it says that my module is in use
[06:16] <Znortfl> _Spire_, yep
[06:16] <manuel_> ok
[06:16] <|rt|> hmm can anyone launch the time and date tool from the System->Admin menu
[06:16] <manuel_> mom muss kurz xchat neustarten
[06:16] <_Luks> fourat, the module name's nvidia
[06:16] <screechingcat> _Spire_: well most people dont have that well supported hardware
[06:16] <|rt|> it's instantly bringing up the bug report tool for me
[06:16] <fourat> _Luks, lsmod and check wich module is using it and remove'em recursively
[06:16] <screechingcat> fourat: then im at a loss buddy. that always did the trick for me
[06:16] <MukiEX> I respect Edgy now. Getting Ati to work was a hassle but in the end I understand why it's that way.
[06:16] <MukiEX> Leaves you with a cleaner system.
[06:17] <fourat> screechingcat, wich log can help me ?
[06:17] <DaHunger> hi
[06:17] <emeitner> fourat: look at the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors. Maybe look for kernel errors. Is this USB or PS2?
[06:17] <DaHunger> bin wieder da
[06:17] <_Spire_> Znortfl: then go to System > Preferences > Sessions
[06:17] <fourat> emeitner, USB
[06:17] <jcorgan> schreechingcat: one last issue, though--why would an edgy kernel have problems even accessing SATA drivers at the hardware level (lots of handling errors), when a 2.6.10 kernel from Knoppix works fine?
[06:17] <Znortfl> _Spire_, I figured that already. Problem is that when I enter the command there, it vanishes after a relog
[06:17] <_Spire_> Znortfl: strange
[06:18] <emeitner> fourat: in a shell also run 'dmesg' some USB errors will show up there.
[06:18] <Tonren> Hey, is anyone having trouble updating from cafuego's bcm43xx firmware repo?
[06:18] <screechingcat> jcorgan: i have no idea. no one else seems to have this problem. my own SATA drive is perfectly recognized and partitioned
[06:18] <screechingcat> jcorgan: do u have windows ?
[06:19] <pwnguin> jcorgan, well, its possible, and they're called "regressions". regressions shouldn't happen, but often do anyways
[06:19] <jcorgan> screechingcat: you mean a windows install CD?  yes, though I'd have to go find it
[06:19] <screechingcat> jcorgan: no i mean windows installed on your computer ?
[06:19] <jcorgan> screechingcat: no
[06:20] <overridex> abo: that's exactly what i needed... thanks :)
[06:20] <screechingcat> jcorgan: i had a similar problem once (dapper live dint recognize my hard disk) and i booted windows and did all the partitioning in Partition Magic and reinserted the live cd and everything worked
[06:20] <fourat> emeitner, no juice in my optical usb mouse when plugged in any usb port
[06:20] <fourat> its like if the usb ports were Offline
[06:21] <jcorgan> well, off to go back up this aborted mess and go reinstall, thanks for the help
[06:21] <screechingcat> jcorgan: good luck mate
[06:21] <pazemlsqdfmoj> what is THE easiest way to compile your own php5 server without messing up a working LAMP isntallation? (i require some custom stuff like GD etc)
[06:21] <_Spire_> fourat: try doing 'lsusb' in the console and PM me the results
[06:22] <screechingcat> fourat: did u try plugging something else in the USB ports ? maybe the system and the mouse are fine but the ports arent ?
[06:22] <morphish> ok, any pitfalls to watch out for when installing (k)ubuntu on a machine that has an existing grub and windows?
[06:22] <epp> morphish, it wont effect any of that
[06:22] <_Spire_> morphish: shouldn't be any
[06:22] <fourat> _Spire_, i have 3 Bus (001/002/003) all with same Device (001) and same ID (0000:0000) (sorry, i cant paste, i have no mouse)
[06:23] <emeitner> fourat: so it works for five minutes then apparently has no power? did you try other usb devices to see if they work?
[06:23] <epp> morphish, it will just add kubuntu to Your display manager
[06:23] <philwhln> hi, what's the quickest way to install svn on ubuntu 6.10?
[06:23] <bcstv> anyone have problems saving files from Openoffice to a network drive?
[06:23] <fourat> screechingcat, no it happens suddenly, after only some 5 minutes
[06:23] <dcordes> is there a command that allows me to set the systen priority a porgram gets?
[06:23] <morphish> epp: i meant existing grub, but replacing the installed linux, just need to make sure partitions are done manual or windows barfs
[06:23] <Tonren> cafuego: Hey man.. are you around?
[06:23] <MrKeuner> what else do I need other than build-essential in order to create deb packages?
[06:24] <epp> morphish, when installing kubuntu it will ask you if you want to use kdm (kde display manager) or GDM (gnome display manager) i would use gdm..
[06:24] <screechingcat> fourat: wierd ! never happened to me. so i wouldnt know
[06:24] <fourat> any one can help me please ?
[06:24] <Tim91> i have removed a nic card ,now my internet connection is very slow what can i do
[06:24] <morphish> epp: it asks? (i installed kubuntu (Edgy) on this duron already, and it didn't ask, i don't think)
[06:24] <epp> morphish, just type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop... it will just add it to your existing linux
[06:25] <IRCMonkey> hello!!
[06:25] <dcordes> anybody?
[06:25] <morphish> epp: my existing linux has no idea about apt-get ;)
[06:25] <morphish> epp: a source based distro
[06:25] <epp> morphish, ahhh. ok
[06:26] <rbil> fourat: you using a laptop?
[06:26] <emeitner> fourat: is this an MS IntelliMouse?
[06:27] <Shaye> Who can help me getting the right codecs for mplayer so i can play avi movies
[06:27] <morphish> epp: rebuilding the ubuntu kernel with just one more .config option added is that simple enough, i read some custom kernel bit on the wiki, but from memory it sounds like a lot of steps compared to building a vanilla kernel
[06:27] <iter> Shaye: check out easyubuntu or automatrix
[06:27] <IRCMonkey> any one can tell me please how do i get ident? i installed oidentd already but it doesnt seems to work,
[06:28] <Shaye> iter?
[06:28] <Shaye> what are those
[06:28] <mirak> why do I have more than one /dev/ttyS{0,1,2,3} even if I only have one serial port onboard ?
[06:28] <|niklas|> anyone know how you can make so you don't have a black frame around mplayer video when you tries to play a video in fullscreen?
[06:28] <lostat1> !plf
[06:28] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[06:29] <lostat1> !w32codecs
[06:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:29] <screechingcat> lostat1: PLF is dead
[06:29] <rbil> mirak: those are screens accessible using ALT-CTRL F1, F2, etc.
[06:29] <Shaye> well i need help playing avi movies :|
[06:29] <mirak> rbil: ttyS ?
[06:30] <lostat1> Why did the PLF die?
[06:30] <mirak> because when I plug my serial -> usb adapter, I got a /dev/ttyUSB
[06:30] <alecjw> Shaye: there are some packages you need to install
[06:30] <IRCMonkey> hello !!! anyone please? how can i get ident thing working on irc?
[06:30] <alecjw> i'll list them
[06:30] <Corbo> hello
[06:30] <Paddy_EIRE> lostat1: what happened to the plf
[06:30] <Shaye> alecjw, but whice..
[06:30] <Shaye> which
[06:30] <lostat1> screetchingcat says the PLF is DEAD
[06:30] <Corbo> can anyone spare a few minutes for a new ubuntu user?
[06:30] <lostat1> Corbo just ask
[06:30] <Paddy_EIRE> lostat1: jeeze
[06:31] <Paddy_EIRE> gonna read up on this
[06:31] <Shaye> alecjw, which packages
[06:31] <codezero> hi there
[06:31] <lostat1> So i think the Swedish killed the PLF. They have a thing against penguins.
[06:31] <Corbo> thanks lostat, I have an NTFS drive, I have mounted it and can access it in the terminal as root, but don't have permission to access it as a user in gnome, how can I give myself permission?
[06:31] <alecjw> Shaye: do this in a terminal: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[06:32] <alecjw> make sure you have the multiverse repos, Shaye
[06:32] <lostat1> Oh NTFS ewww. Uhm I think you have to go into root and change the drives permissions.
[06:32] <Corbo> yes, I just want to get in to it and copy the files out of it lostat
[06:32] <morphish> epp: installer is allergic to installing onto a / that is in an extended partition?
[06:33] <lostat1> I am not so great at the permissions thing. If its a local non network thing I usually just give global permissions to a storage device. Like sudo chmod 777-R /dir/dir/dir
[06:33] <slipttees> GUYS: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3610/281193199519775b141wx6.jpg
[06:33] <RobHu> Can someone please please help me? How do I get Ubuntu to reinstall X, i.e. recreate all the config files etc - I think mine are busted.
[06:33] <slipttees> :D
[06:33] <lostat1> Corbo is it a one time copy/
[06:33] <tomh-> hey
[06:33] <lostat1> Corbo: Or is this a permanent drive for storage you will use allot.
[06:34] <tomh-> anyone know if the wifi in 6.10 is more fucked up than 6.06?
[06:34] <epp> !language
[06:34] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:34] <ofer> I am trying to mount sony digital camara  but don't know what to write after this sudo modprobe usb-storage
[06:34] <RobHu> Anyone? Anyone at all?
[06:34] <ale[x] > how do u mean fucked up?
[06:34] <Corbo> lost: it is a harddrive in my PC
[06:34] <tomh-> when i install 6.06 it can scan my networks
[06:34] <tomh-> when i upgrade to 6.10 it works too
[06:34] <epp> tomh-, have you installed network-manager?
[06:34] <Corbo> I am happy to change the file system, only once I have copied everything out of it
[06:34] <mc44> RobHu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:34] <tomh-> but not with a fresh install
[06:34] <jonisick> Is there a default root password for ubuntu linux?  I installed Ubuntu (my first dive into linux) and now as I'm trying to learn my way around I'm unable to switch to the root user using the bash shell su command.
[06:35] <tomh-> epp: i use the default instalation
[06:35] <RobHu> mc44: That just rewrites xorg.conf - I want to get rid of and have it put back in /etc/X11
[06:35] <Corbo> jon: root password is same as your user password
[06:35] <ale[x] > tom, what kind of wireless card?
[06:35] <RobHu> mc44: How do I do that?
[06:35] <iter> Corbo: incorrect
[06:35] <tomh-> intel wifi
[06:35] <iter> jonisick: use sudo -s
[06:35] <ale[x] > what version
[06:35] <Corbo> lol who am I kidding I only installed it yoday :p
[06:35] <tomh-> mm no idea
[06:35] <mc44> RobHu: you want to get rid of xorg.conf?
[06:35] <epp> tomh-, thats why. network-manager is more usable.
[06:35] <lostat1> In Ubuntu the primary user or first user sets the root password then uses it as a user password.
[06:35] <mc44> RobHu: or X?
[06:35] <iter> jonisick: if you want a root account do sudo passwd root
[06:35] <rbil> jonisick: use sudo, not root and use the password of the first user installed
[06:35] <devios> DOH!  i just upgraded from dapper to edgy by changing all the "dapper" to "edgy" in sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:35] <jonisick> Yeah I had figured it would be the same, but I keep getting authorization failures.  Maybe I'm typing something wrong.
[06:35] <tomh-> epp: how do i install it if i dont have internet?
[06:35] <RobHu> mc44: I want to entirely get rid of X including /etc/X11 and put it back on again
[06:36] <devios> DOH!  i just upgraded from dapper to edgy by changing all the "dapper" to "edgy" in sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade and now X wont start... using irssi
[06:36] <ale[x] > tom, does the os see your wireless card?
[06:36] <tomh-> yes
[06:36] <iter> jonisick: there is not a root account by default
[06:36] <epp> how are you on now?
[06:36] <mc44> RobHu: why would you want to do that?
[06:36] <tomh-> but its deactivated
[06:36] <Corbo> I have mounted n NTFS drive, but when I try to access it says I don't have permission
[06:36] <devios> easiest way to configure x
[06:36] <devios> ?
[06:36] <kruncher> I lost the support to scroll in firefox 2 (when i clean installed edgy) by clicking down the scroll wheel on my mouse and then moving my mouse up and down (it changes the mouses icon to a 4 way arrow no more). How can i fix this?
[06:36] <tomh-> when i enable it it doesnt show any networks
[06:36] <RobHu> mc44: Because I think I followed a guide that had me change some random option or rc file or something somewhere in X that now is causing me a lot of trouble. Reverting to the original xorg.conf or rebuilding it doesn't help. How can I do what I want?
[06:37] <Code-E> How do I unzip .zip files
[06:37] <epp> tomh-, for now hook up with a wire. and type "sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome"
[06:37] <Code-E> !zip Code-E
[06:37] <jonisick> Okay that explains it.  Thanks  Do I have all the root ability with my default account?
[06:37] <iter> RobHu: do history
[06:37] <sethro> Hi guys
[06:37] <Code-E> !zip > Code-E
[06:37] <iter> RobHu: figure out what you changed
[06:37] <|niklas|> how to you enable xvideo in x?
[06:37] <sethro> I wanted to ask you a question
[06:37] <RobHu> iter: It was changed about 2-3 months ago its not in the history
[06:37] <sethro> I have ubuntu 6.10 installed
[06:37] <tomh-> epp: i dont have wire here
[06:37] <ale[x] > jonisick, yes, u can do sudo <any command>
[06:37] <epp> |niklas|, you mean the codec?
[06:37] <tomh-> only wifi
[06:37] <RobHu> Any of you know the answer to my actual question?
[06:37] <RobHu> I know how to do history :)
[06:37] <jonisick> Thanks again.
[06:37] <Corbo> cd /
[06:37] <rene32> How can I give my PC a name, so that my PC is not shown as "-" in my router's connection monitor?
[06:37] <epp> tomh-, do you have windows installed?
[06:38] <tomh-> yes thats where i am on now
[06:38] <RobHu> there must be a way to do it without reinstalling Ubuntu again
[06:38] <tomh-> dual boot
[06:38] <Tim91> Corbo: yaday?
[06:38] <Code-E> How do I unzip .zip files
[06:38] <epp> tomh-, hold plz
[06:38] <ale[x] > whats your question rob?
[06:38] <RobHu> Code-E: unzip foo.zip
[06:38] <iter> RobHu: you want apt-get deinstall --reinstall packages
[06:38] <RobHu> iter: There is no deinstall optionin apt
[06:38] <fredsa> can anyone help me getting my nic detected? It seems to be referenced in the device manager but I can't find anything in lsmod, unless it's i2c_core
[06:38] <Tim91> wire is so much better then wireless
[06:38] <iter> uh oh sorry
[06:38] <|niklas|> nope, I get no adapters when running xvinfo, but I have had it in 6.06 but don't find what to do to enable it
[06:39] <devios> DOH!  i just upgraded from dapper to edgy by changing all the "dapper" to "edgy" in sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade and now X wont start... using irssi.  easiest way to fix x from command line?  is there some way to auto-configure x?
[06:39] <RobHu> ale[x] : I want to remove X including /etc/X11 and then put it back on again
[06:39] <thotz> hello! how can I tell firefox to go back with the backspace button?? (on edgy)
[06:39] <mc44> RobHu: use mark for reinstallation in synaptic, assuming you have an X server
[06:39] <iter> RobHu: gotta be dpkg then
[06:39] <thotz> to the last page...
[06:39] <lostat1> Corbo: go to a command line in a terminal. And try this out: sudo chmod 777 -R /media/usbdisk or usbdisk1
[06:39] <RobHu> mc44 / iter : ok thanks - now which is the package I want to do it on?
[06:39] <mc44> RobHu: xserver-org probably
[06:40] <Corbo> lostat1: that has set all permissions in it to read only, but I can still only access it as root, not as myself
[06:40] <mc44> RobHu: thats a meta package for x
[06:40] <morphish> it's kind of funky that i need the alternate cd to install on a logical partition
[06:40] <Corbo> if I open it as myself the folder is empty
[06:40] <RobHu> mc44: It says "couldn't find pacakge xserver-org"
[06:40] <iter> RobHu: if you customized a file or two they won't be overwritten by default
[06:40] <cyphase> is anyone having any problems with azureus in edgy?
[06:40] <RobHu> iter: Yeah, I want to get rid of X including /etc/X11 and put it all back on again (as I originally said!)
[06:40] <mc44> -xorg
[06:40] <vital> the touchpad on my sony doesn't work as predicted untill I log out of gnome and back in - any help?
[06:40] <atlef> thotz : write about:config in ff and find the line browser.backspace_action and change from 1 to 0
[06:40] <mc44> RobHu: xserver-xorg
[06:41] <thotz> thanks atlef!
[06:41] <Raskall> dammit. X broke when upgrading to Edgy
[06:41] <thotz> cyphase: search there is a bug in launchpad already
[06:41] <RobHu> mc44: thanks
[06:41] <kruncher> never mind, i found the problem it is the option "use smooth scrolling" in the firefox advanced tab
[06:41] <devios> DOH!  i just upgraded from dapper to edgy by changing all the "dapper" to "edgy" in sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade and now X wont start... using irssi.  easiest way to fix x from command line?  is there some way to auto-configure x?
[06:41] <epp> tomh-, im not sure... i was trying to find a .deb for network manager... you could download it to windows then in linux run and instal it
[06:41] <RogerBacon> i use Code::Block (great IDE) and i have this error heach time i try to compile :-------------- Build: Release in Test ---------------Compiling: main.c/bin/sh: Can't open gcc -Wall -O2  -I/usr/include  -c main.c -o obj/Release/main.Process terminated with status 2 (0 minutes, 1 seconds)0 errors, 0 warnings
[06:41] <lostat1> Corbo can you PVT?
[06:41] <tomh-> kk
[06:41] <ale[x] > i tried the upgrade, just reinstall, believe me! i spent all day yesterday on this
[06:42] <tomh-> i will mess around some more
[06:42] <epp> kk
[06:42] <mc44> devios: : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:42] <tomh-> try to use wifi-radar
[06:42] <tomh-> thanks anyway
[06:42] <devios> mc44: ty!
[06:42] <slipttees> GUYS: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3610/281193199519775b141wx6.jpg
[06:42] <rene32> How can I give my PC a name, so that my PC is not shown as "-" in my router's connection monitor?
[06:42] <iter> rene32: hostname
[06:42] <atlef> tomh- : do you have the dvd?
[06:42] <emo> anyone help me, how can I get to defualt on the way that my sound card work again I had tryed to set up wengoo after that my sound card doesn't work ....any idea what's going on ????
[06:42] <epp> tomh-, if you can get on with a wire... get network-manager-gnome. it will work.
[06:42] <rene32> iter: hostname? Where, ho?
[06:42] <ale[x] > tomh-, figure what type of wireless card you have, you might need an extra package
[06:43] <iter> rene32: terminal, by typing
[06:43] <atlef> ale[x]  : he quit
[06:43] <DanaG> hmm, when I run gsynaptics:
[06:43] <DanaG> Unknown parameter CoastingSpeedThreashold
[06:43] <overridex> rene32: you will also need to edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and uncomment the "send host-name" line and put soemthing in so it gets sent to the router when you get an ip address
[06:43] <DanaG> notice the misspelling.
[06:43] <ale[x] > agh well
[06:43] <rene32> iter: hostname shows the name of my PC but this name is not shown in my router's connection monitor. Any idea?
[06:43] <tiagovargas> please...ubuntu for brasil!
[06:44] <iter> rene32: what overridex says
[06:44] <Corbo> hmmm
[06:44] <DanaG> That's exactly the issue I had: send host-name.
[06:44] <rene32> iter, overridex: thx. That sounds good.
[06:44] <ukubuntu> slipttees seen it, was on the planet :)
[06:44] <slipttees> :)
[06:44] <DanaG> Why doesn't it do that by default?  It should send host-name `hostname`
[06:44] <rene32> iter, overridex: Is there an easy way to change the hostname?
[06:44] <Corbo> is there a program to convert an ntfs partition to something else?
[06:44] <slipttees> very fanny :)
[06:44] <porkpie> guy's just installed freeradius and trying to get it working ...I get this error
[06:44] <porkpie> Sun Oct 29 17:36:04 2006 : Error: rlm_sql (sql): Could not link driver rlm_sql_mysql: rlm_sql_mysql.so: cannot
[06:44] <porkpie> Sun Oct 29 17:36:04 2006 : Error: rlm_sql (sql): Make sure it (and all its dependent libraries!) are in the sea
[06:44] <porkpie> Sun Oct 29 17:36:04 2006 : Error: radiusd.conf[1] : sql: Module instantiation failed.
[06:44] <porkpie> Sun Oct 29 17:36:04 2006 : Error: radiusd.conf[128]  Unknown module "sql".
[06:44] <Phoul> Ever hear of pastebin?
[06:44] <iter> rene32: hostname does it
[06:45] <tiagovargas> ubuntu-br
[06:45] <ale[x] > rene32, do hostname <name of my box>
[06:45] <slipttees> porkpie: flood noo man
[06:45] <slipttees> !paste
[06:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:45] <DanaG> Corbo: back it up, delete it, and create the new one.  There isn't really an easier way.
[06:45] <porkpie> sorry guys
[06:45] <slipttees> :)
[06:45] <rene32> iter, ale[x] : Linux can be so easy :-D thx
[06:45] <Corbo> danag: I can't back it up, it won't let me in to it
[06:45] <CVirus> !upgrade
[06:45] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[06:45] <slipttees> rene32: my name's rene too :)
[06:45] <lostat1> Corbo: Why not open nautilus up from a command line. sudo nautilus and then copy the contents of the NTFS drive to /home/whomever and then reformat with a more compatible drive format?
[06:46] <Megaqwerty> how can i view how much cpu a process is using?
[06:46] <ale[x] > rene32, that changes the name on the fly, don't forget to change /etc/hostname
[06:46] <Warbo> Corbo: Nothing that I know of. I would shrink it as much as possible, make a new partition, then repeatedly copy across as much stuff as possible, shrink the NTFS on, grow the other one, copy across as much as possible, etc. until you can delete the NTFS one
[06:46] <iter> Megaqwerty: top
[06:46] <DanaG> Though, if it's more than half empty, you can resize it to half size, create a temporary second partition, move the files to the temporary one, then delete the first one and recreate it, then move the stuff back, then delete the temporary one.
[06:46] <Megaqwerty> iter: thanks
[06:46] <dv5237> hello i need a program so i can switch from UTP to wireless easy
[06:46] <bigjb> has anyone done a fresh install of server 6.10 in vmware?
[06:46] <Tim91> Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: mshomeinternet"         why why why this dong my f..in head in
[06:46] <iter> Tim91: firewall ?
[06:46] <RogerBacon> i use Code::Block (great IDE) and i have this error heach time i try to compile :-------------- Build: Release in Test ---------------Compiling: main.c/bin/sh: Can't open gcc -Wall -O2  -I/usr/include  -c main.c -o obj/Release/main.Process terminated with status 2 (0 minutes, 1 seconds)0 errors, 0 warnings
[06:47] <Warbo> Anyone know how I can get dbus 0.61 for Dapper in a way which won't screw up my system?
[06:47] <Tim91> what do i do
[06:47] <ArrenLex> RogerBacon: do you have build-essential installed?
[06:47] <Tim91> how do i disable it
[06:47] <iter> Tim91: also check firewall on windows machines
[06:47] <Corbo> Warbo: I have opened nautilus as root, I am in to my drive, great, but some folders show "The folder contents could not be displayed" when I open them
[06:47] <Tim91> but its a network
[06:47] <fredsa> can nobody help me get my network interface working? my pc's rather like a car with no wheels at the moment
[06:47] <Tim91> wired
[06:47] <porkpie> guy's can you tell me how to install the module please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29167/
[06:47] <Tim91> ok i wil go and check
[06:48] <slipttees> ARRGGG focked PCMCIA 3com fo helll :S
[06:48] <Warbo> Corbo: Hmm. Try taring the contents of the drive and copying across the tarball. That should sort most things out (I am a little rusty on my tar options tough)
[06:48] <DanaG> fredsa: what's the specific issue?
[06:48] <Corbo> Warbo: do I need to take ownership of the folders?
[06:48] <RogerBacon> ArrenLex : yes
[06:48] <RiGLEY> Hi! I'm very new to linux, just installed it yesterday, so far i'm loving it, but I have a question:  Can I somehow change the contents of the right-click menu on the desktop?
[06:48] <monchi> Hello ... Has anybody been able to set different profile for users on Ubuntu? So each user have a different desktop?
[06:48] <Warbo> Corbo: If you have Nautilus as root then that shouldn't matter
[06:49] <RiGLEY> (gnome)
[06:49] <lostat1> Corbo: You are attempting to access an External USB HD or an internal SCSI or IDE hard-drive that is not the primary drive and is formatted in foul NTFS?
[06:49] <ArrenLex> RogerBacon: what happens if you try running that command manually in the directory where that file is?
[06:49] <ale[x] > RiGLEY, just add another user
[06:49] <DanaG> Try booting windows and doing chkdsk /r
[06:49] <Triplemeh> I noticed that the gnome-bar in edgy doesn't contain a notification area by default
[06:49] <rene32> iter: Seems to work fine. Network Manager just killed my keyboard (again) so the PC is rebooting. But does not seem to be a big deal. thx. If it does not work, I'll be back ;-)
[06:49] <Warbo> RiGLEY: Erm, I know you can add a "Open Terminal" option with the package "nautilus-open-terminal", other than that you might be able to with Nautilus scripts but I have no knowledge of how to use them
[06:49] <alecjw> RiGLEY: what do you want to add or remove?
[06:50] <teleport> hi everybody !
[06:50] <Triplemeh> good morning
[06:50] <fredsa> DanaG, I changed the motherboard in my pc today. On reboot everything works but the built in network card. I just says "No such device" where the device applet is
[06:50] <Corbo> lostat1: I am trying to access an NTFS sata drive, local to the machine.  I can access it, but most folders are showing "The folder contents could not be displayed" when I open them
[06:50] <DanaG> hmm.
[06:50] <ale[x] > sorry, monchi, just add another user
[06:50] <Corbo> I am opening them as root
[06:50] <RiGLEY> some application shortcuts, maybe custom menus.. etc.
[06:50] <DanaG> Do you know what the network card is?
[06:50] <mc44> fredsa: what does ifconfig say?
[06:50] <Corbo> I want to get the files off of the ntfs drive
[06:50] <alecjw> RiGLEY: i reccomend adding a taskbar for that
[06:50] <Warbo> monchi: Every user has a unique EVERYTHING. All users can use GNOME, KDE, etc. by selecting whichever they want on the login screen (and each will have different settings for each)
[06:51] <minimec> fredsa: Veryfy the BIOS! Maybe your onboard network card is disabled.
[06:51] <RiGLEY> OK, how can I add a taskbar ?
[06:51] <monchi> Warbo: I just want Hide everything to certain user and just leave Mozilla
[06:51] <Warbo> monchi: Is that in a security-concious way, or an ease-of-use way?
[06:51] <RogerBacon> ArrenLex : when i compile it directly from the directory with gcc -o main main.c its work
[06:51] <alecjw> RiGLEY: sorry, i meant a panel. right click on the panel at the top with ahe applications menu and all of thet on it and click on add panel
[06:52] <monchi> Warbo: Security
[06:52] <RiGLEY> Thanks, I will try that.
[06:52] <DanaG> fredsa: try lspci | grep net
[06:52] <fredsa> mc44, it gives a lot of info about eth1 and lo. Give me a sec and I'll get it on this machine
[06:52] <alecjw> RiGLEY: then it  will make a panel on the right hand side of your screen and you can click and drag to move it
[06:52] <Warbo> monchi: Ah, then that is beyond me then. You might want to run X from a chroot which only contains Mozilla
[06:52] <monchi> Warbo: when this specific user logs in it will a different desktop
[06:52] <DanaG> or lspci | grep Net
[06:52] <monchi> Warbo: how would this be done forgetting about security?
[06:53] <lostat1> Corbo: Stupid question but those files that show the error were they at all pgp or ntfs protected?
[06:53] <DanaG> linux NTFS doesn't do encrypted NTFS.
[06:53] <fredsa> DanaG, Ethernet Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Ethernet Controller (rev a1)
[06:53] <Warbo> monchi: Forgetting security I would just say get rid of everything on the panel apart from maybe the clock and taskbar, and the logout button, then put a Mozilla icon on the desktop and stretch it until it is massive, job done :)
[06:53] <DanaG> aah
[06:53] <Corbo> lostat - it is purely an ntfs drive, with no compression or encryption enabled
[06:53] <monchi> Warbo: Here is the description of what I want to do https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDynamicMenus
[06:53] <fredsa> DanaG, so it looks like it's there
[06:53] <teleport> it's a good idea to make the upgrate from 6.06 -> 6.10 ???
[06:53] <alecjw> RiGLEY: do you know how to add launchers to the panel?
[06:53] <DanaG> then try modprobe-ing forcedeth
[06:53] <pocketkk> Howdy, Quick question.  I have a new Dell E1705, i have everything working awesome (including Beryl) but i'm having now luck with wireless.  Will a switch from Dapper to Edgy help?
[06:54] <talldave2002> can anyone help me reconfigure my xserver, i have tried to install nvidia drivers after update to edgy, and now i cannot start xserver, and envy says cannot install because xserver running
[06:54] <RiGLEY> Just drag, and drop?
[06:54] <DanaG> I cast FORCEDETH upon ye all!
[06:54] <alecjw> pocketkk: what wireless card do you have
[06:54] <monchi> Warbo: How do I get rid of it?
[06:54] <fredsa> DanaG, was that modprobe instruction for e
[06:54] <fredsa> *me
[06:54] <DanaG> yeah.
[06:54] <vital> is anyone having issues with their synaptic touchpads after logging in
[06:54] <earthian> teleport, no
[06:54] <alecjw> RiGLEY: yep ypu can do that
[06:54] <pocketkk> Broadcom 4311
[06:54] <Warbo> monchi: Everything I can think of to restrict a user account can easily be undone from within that account, so is therefore useless as a security measure
[06:54] <minimec> fredsa: try 'sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.100 up' then 'ifconfig' If eth1 is configured well you can 'ping 192.168.1.100' now.
[06:54] <ale[x] > teleport, i would do a fresh intall
[06:54] <DanaG> gsynaptics is broken.
[06:54] <AdamKili> after upgrading to Edgy, i lost my graphical boot up, where it has the ubuntu name and logo at the top and says Loading Essential Drivers..., Mounting root file sytem..., etc. here's a pic of what i mean: http://lunapark6.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/ubuntu-startup1-1.jpg can anyone help?
[06:55] <alecjw> pocketkk: i'll try and find the tutorial for you
[06:55] <DanaG> Unknown parameter CoastingSpeedThreashold
[06:55] <Corbo> how about if I share the ntfs drive, and access it from my vmware windows XP install?  would that work?
[06:55] <monchi> Warbo: Okay thanks
[06:55] <lostat1> That ight
[06:55] <Corbo> ok
[06:55] <earthian> AdamKili, you need "splash" option in your boot loader i believe?
[06:55] <DanaG> Well, if it's encrypted NTFS, the only way to get it is to boot Windows
[06:55] <lostat1> Im still trying to figure out why you would get that error
[06:55] <pocketkk> I've gone through them, using ndiswrapper
[06:55] <DanaG> and unencrypt it.
[06:55] <Warbo> Oops, I've got to go sorry. monchi, you might try researching chroot, debootstrap and how to start graphical logins over a network (or ion this case from within the cghroot to outside it)
[06:55] <Corbo> Danag: it is not encrypted
[06:55] <DanaG> hmm...
[06:56] <Warbo> *chroot
[06:56] <DanaG> might need a chkdsk.
[06:56] <fredsa> DanaG, ok I tried modprobe forcedeth.... nothing much happened. Not even deth
[06:56] <AdamKili> earthian: how do i get to the boot loader?
[06:56] <DanaG> hmm.
[06:56] <monchi> Warbo: Okay
[06:56] <lostat1> i know that i had a similar issue and I had to just globally change the files and drives permission then it copied fine
[06:56] <mc44> fredsa: sudo modprobe forcedeth -v?
[06:56] <DanaG> well, might wanna rmmod it first.
[06:57] <alecjw> pocketkk: try this tutorial: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=broadcom+how+to its really written fror bcm4306'es but should work on anything ecept bcm4318's
[06:57] <lostat1> When I was using nautilus as root i just did a drag and drop of files
[06:57] <RiGLEY> Another newbie q: Should I install any other driver besides the Nvidia video driver? Everything seems to function properly.
[06:57] <amiyourjuliet> Hi everyone
[06:57] <lostat1> No Rigley
[06:57] <DanaG> I have an odd issue: my snd-hda-intel only works 1/3 of the time.
[06:57] <RiGLEY> ok
[06:57] <earthian> AdamKili, well.. in my honest opinion, you better do not touch boot loader configuration if you do not know how to do it properly. Read documentation and google for howtos. its all i could suggest.
[06:57] <factorx> Hi guys. My sound doesn't work although Ubuntu recognizes my soundcard properly and I'm also sure it's unmuted. Nevertheless I don't hear any sound when playing a sound file in Rhythmbox or Totem. What's wrong?
[06:57] <morphish> alecjw: 4318 are working better now i hear from the spec writer, having said that, i still have no luck using bcm43xx w/o locking up my machine
[06:57] <mc44> DanaG: what chipset?
[06:58] <amiyourjuliet> I'm having trouble compiling some src code.  I get the following error: g++ -O2 -Wall `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0`  -c callbacks.cc -o callbacks.o
[06:58] <Corbo> ok, samba now, I have shared a folder on ubuntu, when I try to open it in windows xp across the network it wants a username and password
[06:58] <lostat1> factorx is the volume turned up at all. Mute is Mute but no volume is no volume
[06:58] <DanaG> audio chip is Sigmatel STAC9250
[06:58] <factorx> lostat1, yes, it's up to 100%
[06:58] <lostat1> Ahh corbo its protected like we asked then.
[06:58] <fredsa> minimec, that ping worked. The icon still says no device exists though
[06:58] <mathieu_> hi, I m running ubuntu edgy eft and I have a lot of artsd process running
[06:58] <earthian> factorx, check if your account has sound enabled at System->administration->users and groupd
[06:58] <mathieu_> around 150
[06:58] <wastrel> factorx:  are all the channels turned all the way up?
[06:58] <lostat1> Hmm factorx try to use this in terminal killall esd
[06:58] <DanaG> It only works when alsamixer DOESN'T show an SPDIF channel.
[06:58] <Corbo> loststat: what is protected?
[06:59] <mathieu_> can someone tell me what s happening ?
[06:59] <AdamKili> earthian: i need to fix this cause i'm going to do a 5 min present about Ubuntu operating system, and i need it to look good. what should i search for in google? i'm not sure how to find a good howto
[06:59] <c0nf> Hi
[06:59] <Tim91> can some one tell me were im going wrong with my network configuration
[06:59] <lostat1> Well your ntfs drive wants a username and passwork to access the folders shared on the drive
[06:59] <earthian> hm
[06:59] <c0nf> nashnash Yo!
[06:59] <nashnash> how to install my deskjet hp drivers >_<
[06:59] <earthian> AdamKili, what boot loader do you use?
[06:59] <nashnash> how to install my deskjet hp drivers >_<
[06:59] <nashnash> how to install my deskjet hp drivers >_<
[06:59] <factorx> earthian, my user account is granted to use sounds.
[06:59] <AdamKili> how do i tell
[06:59] <Corbo> lost: no....that's only the share permissions, not the ntfs permissions
[06:59] <factorx> wastrel, yes, all channels are turned up.
[06:59] <DanaG> hplip is hp stuff.
[07:00] <c0nf> DanaG: i have the same problem
[07:00] <wastrel> Tim91:  what's your network configuration
[07:00] <c0nf> wtf is hplip :x
[07:00] <lostat1> Oh I miss read
[07:00] <nashnash> i tried to install hplip but i have prob with it
[07:00] <Tim91> i can now see the file from another computer
[07:00] <minimec> fredsa: So your card works. Good news ;) Try 'sudo ifdown eth1' then 'sudo dhclinet eh1'. Let's see if dhcp gives you an ip...
[07:00] <DanaG> Go to System -- Administration -- Printers
[07:00] <nashnash> i went to admins... -> printers
[07:00] <earthian> hm... good question :D
[07:00] <nashnash> i chose local printers
[07:00] <AdamKili> earthian: i think GRUB
[07:00] <nashnash> but then i need to specify a port
[07:00] <nashnash> to choose from a list
[07:00] <lostat1> I know that at work we use password encryption on everything so that isnt the prob for you I am not sure. Ive been googleing and nothing comes up
[07:00] <NeedHelpPLease> Hi.
[07:00] <nashnash> and hp is hp no_devices_found
[07:00] <nashnash> ;|
[07:00] <Corbo> so, when I try to access a samba share from an XP machine it wants a user/pass, how can I setup users for samba access?
[07:00] <Tim91>  wastrel:I have ubuntu ,and windows home connected on wired network
[07:00] <AdamKili> earthian: that's what it says at the very beginning of booting up
[07:00] <c0nf> STFUUUUUUUU
[07:00] <c0nf> nashnash is asking a question :<
[07:00] <NeedHelpPLease> Can someone please help who has laptop and an nvidia card ? I am a new user.
[07:00] <nashnash> LOL
[07:00] <earthian> ok then check bottom of your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[07:01] <lostat1> sorry I dont know samba well
[07:01] <DanaG> I have nvidia.
[07:01] <earthian> and pastebin it to me.
[07:01] <factorx> lostat1, killall esd worked. I can now hear sounds. Can you explain me what was the problem?
[07:01] <nashnash> how to install my deskjet hp drivers >_<
[07:01] <nashnash> how to install my deskjet hp drivers >_<
[07:01] <nashnash> how to install my deskjet hp drivers >_<
[07:01] <wastrel> Tim91:  so what's the problem?
[07:01] <c0nf> ROFL
[07:01] <wastrel> nashnash:  don't repeat
[07:01] <earthian> !spam
[07:01] <jrib> NeedHelpPLease: hi, just state what problem you are having
[07:01] <lostat1> Might be easier to move the NTFS drive to be primary and copy everything to CD or to a slaved non NTFS drive.
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <nashnash> sorry
[07:01] <DanaG> Make sure the printer is ON when you try to add it.
[07:01] <mplayer_guy> After, I've followed a guide to setup xgl/beryl (ATI), rebooted my pc, and now I cannot see the taskbar, please help.
[07:01] <nashnash> ;/
[07:01] <Tim91>  wastrel:i want to be able to sheaqr my internet connection
[07:01] <c0nf> !hp
[07:01] <amiyourjuliet> I'm trying to build from src, and I get this error:       "make: Nothing to be done for `all'."
[07:01] <amiyourjuliet> what does that mean?
[07:01] <DrWoLf> hello people
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <c0nf> !printer
[07:01] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:02] <c0nf> oO
[07:02] <wastrel> Tim91:  which computer is connected to the internet?
[07:02] <NeedHelpPLease> DanaG can you please help ?
[07:02] <jrib> amiyourjuliet: means there is nothing to do
[07:02] <c0nf> !printer driver
[07:02] <tec> what do i need to install to use xfce as my de
[07:02] <DrWoLf> Can you help - where can I find applets for Ubuntu?
[07:02] <jrib> DrWoLf: what kind of applets?
[07:02] <nashnash> what do i need to do here
[07:02] <fredsa> minimec, can you check that last command please? My terminal says command not found
[07:02] <nashnash> configure: error: cannot find net-snmp support (or --disable-network-build)
[07:02] <DanaG> argh, scrolling too fast!
[07:02] <earthian> mplayer_guy, that could mean that emerald or beryl window manager is not started
[07:02] <amiyourjuliet> jrib: thanks, but that is confusing lol
[07:02] <minimec> fredsa: Could it be that your GUI is looking for eth0 and not for eth1?
[07:02] <jrib> amiyourjuliet: what are you compiling?
[07:02] <Tim91>  wastrel:the ubuntu computer is connected to the internet
[07:02] <NeedHelpPLease> Can someone please help who has laptop and an nvidia card ? I am a new user.
[07:02] <talldave2002> dave
[07:02] <DanaG> What's your issue with nvidia?
[07:02] <jrib> NeedHelpPLease: we can only help you if you tell us the problem you are having
[07:02] <ale[x] > needhelpplease, whats your problem
[07:03] <fredsa> minimec, yeah you're right
[07:03] <lostat1> amiyourjuliet: It means you have made it already now its time for make install
[07:03] <nashnash> configure: error: cannot find net-snmp support (or --disable-network-build)
[07:03] <nashnash>  ---> what do i do here?
[07:03] <mplayer_guy> earthian, and the font changed. It's like it squeezed together.
[07:03] <NeedHelpPLease> DanaG can I talk to you in private, too many messages here ..
[07:03] <lostat1> Corbo what r u trying.
[07:03] <c0nf> omg
[07:03] <DanaG> it's better public -- just speak clearly.
[07:03] <c0nf> gaaaaay
[07:03] <Tim91> omg i can see the files from the ,windows xp home pc
[07:03] <c0nf> :<>
[07:03] <earthian> mplayer_guy, do you have a beryl icon in the taskbar?
[07:03] <Tim91>  wastrel:
[07:03] <DanaG> And people should wait at least 1 second between posts.
[07:03] <pizzadude> trappist: you here?
[07:03] <lostat1> Tim91 dont be scared it is just a lower lifeform
[07:03] <nashnash> plz someone help me im stuck in the configure before make , trying to compile hplip
[07:03] <nashnash> configure: error: cannot find net-snmp support (or --disable-network-build)
[07:04] <vital> do u need the newest nvidia drivers for beryl to work on edgy
[07:04] <amiyourjuliet> jrib: I'm compiling g-sopcast
[07:04] <DanaG> hplip is a package already.
[07:04] <mplayer_guy> earthian,  not yet, cause after I've installed beryl xserver-xgl and emerald-theme, i haven't rebooted yet.
[07:04] <Tim91> lol
[07:04] <nashnash> DanG it's not working tho..
[07:04] <wastrel> Tim91:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing
[07:04] <DanaG> add this: deb http://amaranth.selfip.com edgy lrm
[07:04] <NeedHelpPLease> DanaG, I am a noob and just isntalled first time Ubuntu 6.10 I have a laptop and nvidia GO6600 I simply want it to work properly - power control management, my fan is working full speed right now, how do I slow it down as I am not using full power of the video card ?
[07:04] <ketsugi> Will Firefox ever give us native styled Gtk widgets?
[07:04] <AdamKili> earthian: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29172/
[07:04] <c0nf> Hi! I installed Edgy, but I have problems... How can I install nVIDIA graphic drivers? :)
[07:04] <DanaG> to /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:04] <minimec> fredsa: so probably you can fix the problem with your GUI now ;) The command should be 'sudo dhclient eth1'
[07:04] <Corbo> lost:  I have an NTFS drive, I am copying my files off of it.  Some folders simply error when I open them telling me "The folder contents could not be displayed" - so I cant get at these files
[07:04] <Tim91>  wastrel:i will look at that thanks
[07:05] <amiyourjuliet> lostat1: i did make install, and i get: teg:~/gsopcast-0.2.8/src$ sudo make install
[07:05] <amiyourjuliet> install -D gsopcast /usr/local/bin/gsopcast
[07:05] <iter> c0nf: easyubuntu or automatrix will automate the install w/a nice gui
[07:05] <timhaughton> Do external USB drives need an entry in fstab? They aren't being mounted at boot time.
[07:05] <c0nf> o_O
[07:05] <fredsa> minimec, I think I fixed it from within the gui itself, but I neet
[07:05] <jerp> what's a g-sopcast
[07:05] <DanaG> oh, for the net applet, try going to its properties
[07:05] <newmedian> Is anyone running daemontools (for djbnds) on Edgy? Edgy doesn't seem to be respecting my SV:123456:respawn:/command/svscanboot in inittab.
[07:05] <lostat1> Corbo: So take that NTFS drive make it master and copy those files to CD or copy them to another slave drive
[07:05] <c0nf> iter: automatrix?
[07:05] <DanaG> then set its interface to the right one.
[07:05] <mplayer_guy> timhaughton,  it'll automatically mount itself (with 2.6 kernel)
[07:05] <wastrel> !automatix
[07:05] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[07:05] <fredsa> minimec: ...need to log off to find out.
[07:05] <POVaddct> iter: it will fsck up your system too
[07:05] <minimec> fredsa: ok ..
[07:05] <c0nf> meh
[07:05] <c0nf> bullshit
[07:05] <Corbo> lost: there is no OS on it
[07:05] <timhaughton> mplayer_guy: To what mount point?
[07:05] <earthian> AdamKili, is the paste there full ? :o
[07:05] <Tim91>  wastrel: im so happy i can see the files, is this work i can move to ubuntu 64 for ever ;)
[07:05] <DanaG> deb http://amaranth.selfip.com edgy lrm   --   has newer NVIDIA systems.
[07:05] <c0nf> on breezy it was sudo apt-get install ...
[07:05] <iter> c0nf: hahaha
[07:05] <mplayer_guy> timhaughton, /media
[07:05] <kodat> ugh..i installed flash for linux..but all it does is crash my firefox
[07:05] <c0nf> why its not the same @ edgy?
[07:06] <c0nf> :<>
[07:06] <kodat> anyone have a solution
[07:06] <iter> c0nf: automatix that is
[07:06] <c0nf> meh
[07:06] <masturbat0r> meh
[07:06] <LjL> !language | c0nf
[07:06] <ubotu> c0nf: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:06] <iter> c0nf: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:06] <mplayer_guy> earthian,  not yet, cause after I've installed beryl xserver-xgl and emerald-theme, i haven't rebooted yet.] 
[07:06] <Hansemann> hello. can someone help me with installing the nework card: Belkin F5D7001 ??? plz pm
[07:06] <c0nf> iter: u sure it works for edgy?
[07:06] <NeedHelpPLease> DanaG so what do I do ?
[07:06] <jrib> amiyourjuliet: why are you issuing make inside src/  shouldn't you mean in g-sopcast/ ?
[07:06] <lostat1> Corbo: You know what i mean?
[07:06] <LjL> c0nf: i have nvidia-glx installed in my edgy
[07:06] <DanaG> add that source, then sudo apt-get update
[07:06] <mplayer_guy> hangy,  wireless?
[07:06] <earthian> mplayer_guy, you need to run beryl-manager or something like that...
[07:06] <c0nf> LjL: and u can confirm it works?
[07:07] <NeedHelpPLease> DanaG and it will do everything automatically for me ?
[07:07] <DanaG> hmm, beryl-manager has to be in startup.
[07:07] <LjL> c0nf: well, i'm typing this on KDE on a graphical X terminal, so i guess so
[07:07] <Corbo> lost: you are saying make the drive master, boot from it and copy the files off?  Well that won't work because it has no OS on the drive, it is just a file store
[07:07] <c0nf> LjL: what card do u have btw?
[07:07] <LjL> c0nf: FX 5200
[07:07] <earthian> i have them in gnome startup (well i had when i had dapper :/)
[07:07] <amiyourjuliet> jrib: i got it to make, and install.  I launched the program and it is working.  Is there a way to create a link on panel?  It doesnt show in the applications menu =[
[07:07] <Hansemann> hello. can someone help me with installing the nework card: Belkin F5D7001 ??? plz pm me
[07:07] <c0nf> LjL: thx :)
[07:07] <masturbat0r> c0nf: buh
[07:07] <iter> hehe me too
[07:07] <RiGLEY> Now that I have a nice op. system up and running, will Ubuntu automatically alert me whenever there is an updated component available?
[07:07] <timhaughton> mplayer_guy: They aren't being mounted at boot :(
[07:07] <eneried> hello!
[07:07] <lostat1> Ahh Corbo you didnt say that.
[07:07] <c0nf> masturbat0r: mm... D: 8(
[07:07] <jrib> amiyourjuliet: create a launcher in your panel and just put the command you used to launch it fromt he terminal
[07:07] <masturbat0r> :O
[07:07] <mplayer_guy> earthian,  oh ok, last question (sorry) .. Why don't i have the login screen, but instead, it boots into one of the virtual consoles, and i have to type startx, to start it.. how can i fix that, and let it automatically go to Login GUI screen?
[07:07] <Corbo> mmm tricky isn't it
[07:07] <earthian> AdamKili, is the paste there full ? :o I seem to be missing something :S
[07:07] <LjL> RiGLEY: yes
[07:07] <wastrel> RiGLEY:  yes
[07:08] <wastrel> ljl wins
[07:08] <RiGLEY> Nice, thanks!
[07:08] <lostat1> Corbo: Do you have a winxp machine around? Use the SATA drive as a slave on that to copy to cD
[07:08] <mplayer_guy> timhaughton, type lsusb at terminal, and paste the response @ pastebin.com
[07:08] <DanaG> then sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --composite --no-logo
[07:08] <Corbo> lost, I might have to do that
[07:08] <Xaphoo> how do I make a shortcut to /home/~/ on my desktop?
[07:08] <Hansemann> hass someone accually managed to install Belkin F5D7001 network card?
[07:08] <LjL> wastrel: my typing skillz are too l337 4 u
[07:08] <jrib> Xaphoo: right click > create launcher
[07:08] <earthian> mplayer_guy, looks like your gdm does not start? <---- not my competence sorry :/
[07:08] <RiGLEY> Will it show updates to the programs I have installed too?
[07:08] <Corbo> I have a virtual XP machine, but I don't know how to set samba up to share the drive
[07:08] <AdamKili> earthian: i thought u meant just the bottom, here's the full one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29173/
[07:08] <lostat1> Corbo: Sorry I am of no use on this. I have ot get ready for a formal dinner. If your on later tell me how it goes
[07:08] <mplayer_guy> Hansemann, ,  wireless?
[07:08] <sycho> Anyone tell me where the "Disk Management" that was under "System -> Administration" in Dapper went to in Edgy?
[07:08] <Corbo> ok, enjoy your dinner!
[07:08] <Hansemann> yes
[07:09] <jrib> sycho: unmaintained I believe
[07:09] <mplayer_guy> Question: Why don't i have the login screen, but instead, it boots into one of the virtual consoles, and i have to type startx, to start it.. how can i fix that, and let it automatically go to Login GUI screen?
[07:09] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell DanaG|Away about away
[07:09] <mplayer_guy> earthian, /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?
[07:09] <Xaphoo> jrib: as far as I know that doesn't work to create a shortcut to a dir
[07:09] <simonp> you can add icons for trash home and other stuff using gconf-editor
[07:09] <Xaphoo> I have to make a symlink and I forgot how
[07:09] <amphi> Xaphoo: man ln
[07:09] <Xaphoo> thanks
[07:09] <wastrel> mplayer_guy:  are you using gnome or kde or something else?
[07:09] <mplayer_guy> Xaphoo,  ln -s filename target
[07:09] <eneried> somebody could help me?
[07:09] <jrib> Xaphoo: both of those methods should work, you select file as the type of launcher I believe
[07:09] <fredsa> that did the trick. Thanks minimec and everyone else who helped
[07:09] <mplayer_guy> wasabi,  gnome
[07:09] <POVaddct> Xaphoo: ln -s link_target link_name
[07:09] <simonp> go in /apps/nautilus/desktop
[07:09] <Xaphoo> thank you
[07:09] <LjL> !ask | eneried
[07:09] <ubotu> eneried: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:10] <timhaughton> mplayer_guy: Pasted - sites a bit slow
[07:10] <sycho> jrib: meaning they got rid of it?
[07:10] <wastrel> mplayer_guy:  what does that do for you   sudo /etc/init.d gdm restart
[07:10] <minimec> fredsa: no problem...
[07:10] <eneried> i got a problem trying to start stepmania, it doesn't use my sound card, but stepmania works in my computer when i use windows, i supose there's no hardware problem
[07:10] <skold> hi i have a problem with beryl  under gnome: it dont use the gtk-engine and the icons i choose in gnome
[07:10] <jrib> sycho: yes, i think so
[07:10] <rem__> Hey...when you connect to a windows share with "places" "connect to server" you get the icon on your desktop...but where is the folder mounted in .. ?!?
[07:10] <earthian> AdamKili, sorry, but the file there looks ok and i do not see where could be the problem now :/
[07:10] <timhaughton> mplayer_guy: They are being picked up OK, and I can mount them manually.
[07:10] <peacefull> is there any way to install gcc compiler in my unbuntu 6.06 with out using apt-get?
[07:10] <mplayer_guy> wasabi,  Hold on, I have to logg off, to type that, and see.
[07:10] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell skold about beryl
[07:11] <eneried> this is the error message i got http://pastebin.co.uk/4810
[07:11] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell peacefull about compile
[07:11] <LjL> peacefull: ah sorry you said *without*
[07:11] <NeedHelpPLease> I still Need help. Anyone with Nvidia card please ?
[07:11] <LjL> peacefull: no internet?
[07:11] <LjL> !helpme | NeedHelpPLease
[07:11] <ubotu> NeedHelpPLease: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:11] <simonp> gstreamer don't want to encode to mp3 : ( even with all gstreamer0.10-plugins installed
[07:11] <nashnash> Dang yes phplip was installed i just needed to search for Deskjet 710C @ admin -> printer in LPT #1
[07:11] <sycho> jrib: ok thanks
[07:11] <nashnash> thanks alot
[07:11] <eneried> peacefull, i think is better to use apt-get or synaptic or aptitude to keep consistence of packages in the system
[07:11] <nashnash> phlip*
[07:11] <nashnash> hplip* lol
[07:11] <ketsugi> It's so nice to have Digg Swarm and Digg Stack working on Linux :)
[07:12] <henna_> lol
[07:12] <sycho> jrib: by chance you know of any other way to see what disks are mounted and what can be mounted?
[07:12] <AdamKili> earthian: in the file, in the comments (# signs) it has this defoptions=quiet splash maybe i need to add that?
[07:12] <jrib> !diskmounter > sycho
[07:12] <NeedHelpPLease> I am a new user to linux and isntalled Ubuntu 6.10 first time. My nvidia fans are working full speed now. How do I make it to contro litself? Power Management ?  Please go easy I am a new user to Linux.
[07:12] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. anyone here familiar with The GIMP that could help me?
[07:12] <NeedHelpPLease> I have a laptop.
[07:12] <earthian> AdamKili, no
[07:12] <rem__> sycho : df in terminal ..
[07:12] <sycho> jrib: thanks buddy
[07:12] <rem__> Hey...when you connect to a windows share with "places" "connect to server" you get the icon on your desktop...but where is the folder mounted in .. ?!?
[07:13] <iter> rem__: it's not
[07:13] <Hansemann> i have made the wireless network card work before but i dont remember where i find the tutorial... Can someone plz help me?
[07:13] <jerp> I've got an 2yo NVidia Fx 5600 (Asylum-BFG)  but it's not tweaked yet for Linux; just out of box.
[07:13] <kodat> i installed the right flash player for firefox..but when i go to a webpage my firefox crashes..anyone?
[07:13] <wastrel> gizmo_the_great1:  just ask your question - we don't know if we can help until we see the q :] 
[07:13] <earthian> AdamKili, the single # in that file means a default value while comments are with two # (##)
[07:13] <vetofish> is there anyone who can help me with a Samba problem?
[07:13] <lobosque> how do i enable things like transparent windows? xD
[07:13] <ayaa> my mouse is still freezing after some 5 minutes of fresh boot, having Ubuntu edgy, compared the stdout of lsmod and lsusb before and after mouse freezes and got nothing, when comparing all the /var/log files before and after, i found these 3 lines :
[07:13] <ayaa> ACPI Error (evevent-0314): No installed handler for fixed event [00000000]  [20060707] 
[07:13] <shuan> hi
[07:13] <mplayer_guy> wastrel, done /etc/init.d/gdm restart , and stop = OK, start = OK.
[07:13] <jrib> !xgl > lobosque
[07:13] <ayaa> ACPI Error (evxfevnt-0386): Could not disable RealTimeClock events [20060707] 
[07:13] <LjL> NeedHelpPLease: i think you could do that with the "fancontrol" script that is in the "lm-sensors" packages, but it's not incredibly easy
[07:13] <ayaa> ACPI Error (evevent-0314): No installed handler for fixed event [00000000]  [20060707] 
[07:13] <earthian> AdamKili, and that is only for the middle part of the file.
[07:13] <rem__> ok I guess the folder on the desktop is a direct link to the smb share ...?
[07:13] <wastrel> mplayer_guy:  ok so gdm is working but isn't starting at bootup ?
[07:13] <gizmo_the_great1> wastrel: I have scanned in a black and white photo as greyscale. When I got to try to use any of the filters or even adjust the levels it says "Indexed layers cannot be adjusted". What gives?
[07:14] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell ayaa about paste
[07:14] <iter> rem__: it uses gnomevfs
[07:14] <shuan> i have removed all of the software channels like a fool; from software preferences, can anyone help?
[07:14] <wastrel> mplayer_guy:  you probably need to do something like :  sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults     to set up the gdm init scripts
[07:14] <Hansemann> has someone accually managed to install Belkin F5D7001 wireless network card in ubuntu?
[07:14] <RalleAb> how do I restore the windows boot setup since grub won't work?
[07:14] <LjL> shuan: what is the actual problem?
[07:14] <rem__> can you see how it is mounted with a command like "df" .. ?
[07:14] <AdamKili> earthian: is there a package that does the graphical boot up? cause when i first upgraded I needed to install xserver-xorg (it wasn't installed!!) to get the GUI working again. maybe i need to do the same thing to get graphical boot up working again.
[07:14] <art3k> salve gente
[07:14] <art3k> ops
[07:14] <tec> will my applications in gnome work in fluxbox/\
[07:14] <wastrel> gizmo_the_great1:  you need to convert them from indexed
[07:14] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell RalleAb about grub
[07:15] <shuan> LjL: i cant add software because i removed all of the software channels
[07:15] <mplayer_guy> wastrel, After, I done /etc/init.d/gdm restart, then i tried type this -> gdm <-- But I get failed X server, when I went and see the problem, it said unrecognized option: vt7
[07:15] <timhaughton> mplayer_guy: http://pastebin.com/815399
[07:15] <gizmo_the_great1> wastrel: what is 'indexed' - what does that mean? And how to I convert from that?
[07:15] <c0nf> !samba
[07:15] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:15] <earthian> AdamKili, i do not know, sorry. to be honest i am stuck on live cd of edgy myself... :/
[07:15] <vital> do I need the beta nvidia drivers for beryl to work on edgy?
[07:15] <talldave2002> i am trying to install nvidia drivers using envy but i get error 'you appear to be running an x server' how do i stop runnung an x server?
[07:15] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell shuan about source-o-matic
[07:15] <reiki> on Dapper.. how can I tell if Dapper is seeing both cores of my PentiumD?
[07:15] <Jimmey> I've install Flash but it doesn't work for all the users on the computer - I copied the plugin folder from one user's .mozilla directory to another, but that still doesn't work
[07:15] <iter> vital: most likely
[07:15] <wastrel> mplayer_guy:  but X will start if you type startx?
[07:15] <Xaphoo> has anyone had any succes in viewing Quicktime files from within firefox?
[07:15] <peacefull> is there any way to install gcc compiler in my unbuntu 6.06 with out using apt-get?
[07:15] <gizmo_the_great1> talldave2002: I thinkg it's 'gdm stop'
[07:15] <vital> thanks iter
[07:15] <LjL> vital: yes, if you want to use AIGLX for that. otherwise you can use XGL, but i think AIGLX is preferred. however,
[07:15] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell vital about xgl
[07:15] <eneried> i explain my problem again: I want to play stepmania, I used it on windows, but is too slow, I want to play it on dapper. I downloaded the package and launched it, then, it gives me a sound related problem. But i have sound on ubuntu! and both sound cards play sounds from multiple sources at same time, for example xmms and flash. This is the error message: http://pastebin.co.uk/4810 , any idea?
[07:16] <asarch> Hey, do you know an Ubuntu channel  in  spanish?
[07:16] <POVaddct> reiki: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:16] <kodat> goddd what the hell..why does firefox crash when i go to a flash website..i installed the player correctly >.<
[07:16] <simonp> vital: stock nvidia drivers are working fine with my nvidia 7300gt
[07:16] <jrib> Jimmey: just put it in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[07:16] <reiki> POVaddct, thanks
[07:16] <Tim91> can any one help             timo900@timo900-desktop:~$ sudo sh -c echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[07:16] <Tim91>             bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[07:16] <Jimmey> jrib, I think it's already there
[07:16] <iter> asarch: ubuntu-es
[07:16] <Hansemann> is it a channel for network help?
[07:16] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell asarch about es
[07:16] <jrib> Jimmey: by "doesn't work" what happens exactly?
[07:16] <asarch> iter: Thanks a lot, happy hacking!!!
[07:16] <vital> simonp: how did u install beryl. what repos are u using
[07:16] <POVaddct> Tim91: you have to quote the sh -c ... part
[07:16] <Tim91> wastrel:
[07:16] <asarch> See ya
[07:16] <iter> vital use wiki at beryl-project
[07:16] <wastrel> gizmo_the_great1:  indexed is a type of image format - gif's are indexed i believe.  go into the Image menu, mode and choose a different type (grayscale probably)
[07:16] <Jimmey> jrib, Firefox asks me to install the plugin.
[07:16] <LjL> Hansemann: if it's about Ubuntu, yes
[07:16] <fdoving> is the 'apt-get autoremove' feature ubuntu specific or does debian have it too?
[07:17] <Tim91> ohh i removed them lol ,
[07:17] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Hansemann about wifi
[07:17] <talldave2002> no i still have the same error
[07:17] <vital> iter: thanks
[07:17] <POVaddct> Tim91: sudo sh -c "echo ... > /proc/...."
[07:17] <simonp> The questions/seconds level is quite high : )
[07:17] <mplayer_guy> wastrel,  sorry for keeping you watiing, yes X will start, if i type startx
[07:17] <reiki> POVaddct, cpuinfo appears to be listing info for one CPU... It does say Pentium D but I can't see anything telling me there's 2 CPUs in here
[07:17] <mplayer_guy> that's how i log in
[07:17] <LjL> fdoving: it's ubuntu-specific for now. at least, my debian testing doesn't have it.
[07:17] <lobosque> guys, to install the NVIDIA drive, the X Server cannot be running
[07:17] <jrib> Jimmey: did you check if it was in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins?  Did you close all instances of firefox and open them again?
[07:17] <lobosque> how i do that?
[07:17] <fdoving> LjL: ok, thanks. :)
[07:17] <profoX`> How can I see if a file uses unix like enters or windows like enters? a friend of mine edited his menu.lst using notepad.. i want to check wether there is no problem with the newlines
[07:18] <POVaddct> reiki: the default kernel in dapper has no smp support
[07:18] <peacefull> can anyone expert speak to me for gcc compiler instal without using apt-get?
[07:18] <ketsugi> Edgy no longer has processor-specific kernels?
[07:18] <reiki> POVaddct, should I be running the 686-smp kernel?
[07:18] <POVaddct> reiki: that would be a smp kernel, yes
[07:18] <Jimmey> jrib, I'm just testing that now
[07:18] <POVaddct> reiki: don't know the exact package name
[07:18] <wastrel> mplayer_guy:  I'm not sure but it may be that your GDM is trying to access video modes that aren't supported-   your gnome session works because it's using a different mode-   i don't know how to troubleshoot this further though.  maybe someone else can help.
[07:18] <newmedian> reiki, when I upgraded to Edgy, by default it is giving me only 1 of my cores. If you do a dmesg|more early on I get WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached.  Processor ignored.
[07:18] <Tim91> POVaddct: I am guseing this enables internet connection shearing
[07:18] <birdfish> Are there many interesting benefits to installing 6.10 Server over 6.06 Server?
[07:18] <eneried> there's no help for me, here
[07:19] <simonp> peacefull: you mean no apt-get or no package?
[07:19] <sanmarcos> birdfish: dont bother
[07:19] <sanmarcos> birdfish: if you get trac you get the security holes fixed
[07:19] <mplayer_guy> wastrel,  My Beryl works fine, as we speak
[07:19] <sanmarcos> birdfish: else its just asking for problems
[07:19] <Jimmey> jrib, yeah, I put it into.../usr/lib/firefox/plugins, and it's still asking me to install flash
[07:19] <POVaddct> Tim91: it enables routing between network interfaces. it doesnt enable nat.
[07:19] <fredsa> profoX`, I think you should see them just by opening the file in a text editor. Certainly vim will display them
[07:19] <Jimmey> I put the flash plugin into that folder, jrib
[07:19] <reiki> newmedian, thanks.. I have edgy on a test hard drive. I was speaking about my main install which will remain Dapper for a while :)
[07:19] <simonp> birdfish: stick 6.06, it's a LTS release
[07:19] <jrib> Jimmey: did you do the second thing?
[07:19] <birdfish> sanmarcos: that's what I suspected
[07:19] <birdfish> Thanks guys :)
[07:19] <LjL> profoX`: there is a command to convert unix newlines to dos newlines, but i don't remember it out of my head
[07:19] <profoX`> fredsa: how will that _look_ like? because it doe slook normal
[07:19] <Hansemann> i need someone that can help me with installing Belkin f5D7001 Wireless network card! i have managed to installed it before but i dont remember where i did find the guide...
[07:19] <wastrel> mplayer_guy:  yes but gdm may be using a different video mode, and so it isn't working.
[07:19] <Jimmey> jrib, what was that?
[07:20] <sanmarcos> birdfish: seriously, edgy is NOT an LTS release, look at the name
[07:20] <Jimmey> Close + reopen all browsers?
[07:20] <jrib> Jimmey: close all instances of firefox
[07:20] <profoX`> LjL: yea i know :) but i dont know the command either
[07:20] <Tim91> POVaddct:   Then move on to the clients:               Set the new IP address with the same network range as the server
[07:20] <LjL> peacefull, what is the reason why you can't use apt-get?
[07:20] <Jimmey> jrib, I logged off after moving the plugins, so yep
[07:20] <iter> ljl, profoX` : you can check http://www.vim.org/tips/tip.php?tip_id=26
[07:20] <iter> can also be done w/sed
[07:20] <jrib> Jimmey: where are you getting the plugin from?
[07:20] <POVaddct> Tim91: as the gateway
[07:20] <sanmarcos> you guys using edgy, do you get Usplash at boot?
[07:20] <Tim91> (for example 192.168.0.xxx) dont i just put 1 at the end ?
[07:20] <Jimmey> jrib, apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[07:21] <Tim91> POVaddct:
[07:21] <birdfish> Also, between the 32bit and 64bit versions, is there any reason that I should stick with the 32bit version?  I mean the 64bit version will still run the 32bit apps, right?  I would just be able to upgrade the apps to the 64bit version when they were released?
[07:21] <david_> sanmarcos: yeah
[07:21] <simonp> sanmarcos: kind of ;)
[07:21] <POVaddct> Tim91: but you have to enable nat on the router machine too
[07:21] <gizmo_the_great1> wastrel: You were right mate. Bang on. That has worked. It was a pcx file (CorelDRAW) so The GIMP obviously treated it different. I thought that when I saved it as an xcf file it would be OK, but clearly not. Seems to be working now though. Cheers :-)
[07:21] <LjL> profoX`: well, the "flip" package does it (and there are others), though i believed there was a command installed by deafult as well
[07:21] <sanmarcos> I dont get anything, it tries to start for a second, but then it goes out
[07:21] <c0nf> anyone who is using edgy
[07:21] <simonp> sanmarcos: it's a progress bar with no text
[07:21] <c0nf> has problems with
[07:21] <c0nf> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:21] <c0nf> ?
[07:21] <sanmarcos> I just get the text mode, I dont even get boot messages
[07:21] <jrib> Jimmey: ok, what did you mean by "put it into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/"?
[07:21] <simonp> sanmarcos: does it boot anyway?
[07:21] <Tim91> POVaddct: its just 2 computers on a HUB
[07:21] <sanmarcos> simonp: yes it does
[07:21] <Jimmey> I took the plugins that were in /home/user/.mozilla/plugins, and put them into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[07:21] <iter> ljl, profoX` : also you can always ensure it's converted by transferring via ftp
[07:21] <c0nf> anyone who is using edgy has problems with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:22] <c0nf> >.<
[07:22] <POVaddct> Tim91: yes, but one of them has two network interfaces, right?
[07:22] <mplayer_guy> wastrel, my beryl is working fine, as we speak
[07:22] <bossa_nova> problem with dapper on iMac "Flower Power" with ATI Rage 128 TR Ultra AGP [chip rev 0x4]  16M 128-bit SDR SGRAM (1:1)
[07:22] <birdfish> c0nf: no
[07:22] <profoX`> iter: well thanks, seems like notepad didnt mess up (he just had to copy/paste some things, but you never know)
[07:22] <minimec> jrib: There is also a beta version of the flash-plugin on the adobe flash homepage. Rocks nice with firefox2.0
[07:22] <whishup> c0nf: No
[07:22] <jrib> Jimmey: flashplugin-nonfree doesn't install to ~/.mozilla/ though.  Was there a libflashplayer.so as well as .xpt file?
[07:22] <bossa_nova> xorg freezes
[07:22] <c0nf> bossa_nova, yes
[07:22] <c0nf> same here
[07:22] <c0nf> :x
[07:22] <Jimmey> jrib, yep
[07:22] <birdfish> c0nf: I successfully installed and reconfigured x on my desktop when installing my ati card
[07:22] <Jesus> Does anyone know something about libc.so.6? What do I need to fix: "/bin/bash: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /bin/bash)"
[07:22] <c0nf> birdfish and whaley: u using x64 version?
[07:22] <simonp> sanmarcos: same results with either cd or hd?
[07:22] <whaley> hi
[07:22] <LjL> Hansemann: have you received the message from the bot?
[07:22] <Hansemann> yeah
[07:22] <c0nf> nice
[07:22] <whishup> c0nf: We have 4 systems running edgy here, no problems reported with it.
[07:22] <LjL> Hansemann: well it's not precisely your card, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/F5D7000?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[07:23] <bossa_nova> c0nf: sounds like the same problem
[07:23] <birdfish> c0nf: nope.  thinking about it for the server, but am not sure
[07:23] <c0nf> Hansemann, what vga u have?
[07:23] <Hansemann> vga?
[07:23] <whishup> birdfish: You're brave -=)
[07:23] <c0nf> video card
[07:23] <bcstv> how do I get OpenOffice to see network drive?
[07:23] <sanmarcos> simonp: I dont have an edgy cd
[07:23] <geokok> does anyone have problem creating forms in OO base?
[07:23] <birdfish> whishup: that's why I'm asking about it first ;)
[07:23] <bossa_nova> birdfish: which ati card?
[07:23] <Tim91> POVaddct: the computet with ubuntu has the internet (and the hub) connected to it
[07:23] <simonp> sanmarcos: you've updated from dapper?
[07:23] <c0nf> Hansemann: video card..., well...
[07:23] <birdfish> bossa_nova: x1400
[07:23] <Hansemann> gainward 6600
[07:23] <sanmarcos> simonp: yes
[07:23] <c0nf> aah good
[07:24] <c0nf> so u have no problems with drivers and xorg @ 64bit edgy?
[07:24] <bossa_nova> birdfish: was it the freeze bug?
[07:24] <birdfish> whishup: it's mainly just a personal server for learning experiences anyway.  You know, hosting my own mail and website and stuff like that
[07:24] <Tim91> POVaddct: i thinking of going and trying to see if the inter net works now
[07:24] <whishup> birdfish: Same here: http://homepage.modestonetwork.com I'm suprised how fast it is.
[07:24] <simonp> sanmarcos: got no idea. my suggestion is to not spend time on this comestic problem ;)
[07:24] <Hansemann> what has that to do with a network card?
[07:24] <POVaddct> Tim91: okay, so if the other computer is also connected to the hub why are you try to use the ubuntu machine as a router?
[07:24] <Linuturk> anyone want to analyze a bootchart for me? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288095
[07:24] <ale[x] > how can i find out what packages i have installed?
[07:24] <jrib> Jimmey: type 'which firefox'
[07:24] <whishup> birdfish: It makes my old local windows server look like hot garbage.
[07:25] <LjL> profoX`: i think the commands i was thinking about were "dos2unix" and "unix2dos", but they do not appear to be there by default (i remembered otherwise, but perhaps it was on a different system). anyway you get them from the "tofrodos" package -- or use "flip", that works as well
[07:25] <birdfish> bossa_nova: I don't have an issue with the card other than the fact that the binary driver is slow and the graphics don't necessarily render as quickly as I would like
[07:25] <c0nf> Hansemann: u installed drivers with 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'? and please answer to my previous question -> u have no problems with drivers and xorg @ 64bit edgy?
[07:25] <sanmarcos> simonp: also do you have any ideas why I dont see any of my hds in gnome?
[07:25] <eneried> bye boys, take care, i'l look for help at other place
[07:25] <Jimmey> jrib, alright
[07:25] <LjL> !traffic
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[07:25] <birdfish> whishup: =P
[07:25] <Hansemann> i dont have any problems
[07:25] <simonp> sanmarcos: any? you should see Filesystem...
[07:25] <Jimmey> jrib, /usr/bin/firefox
[07:25] <jrib> Jimmey: make that 'readlink -f $(which firefox)'
[07:25] <c0nf> Hansemann: great! -> u installed drivers with 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'?
[07:25] <sanmarcos> simonp: I do see filesystem, and I do see usb mass sstorage when plugged, but not my hds, lshal does dispaly them
[07:25] <simonp> sanmarcos: other partitions appears if any
[07:25] <sanmarcos> simonp: no, no partitions
[07:25] <Hansemann> and i installed it with the sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:26] <Tim91> POVaddct: i know i could connect the modem to the hub write ? but my isp dont give me 2 IPs
[07:26] <kodat> man i need a diff flash player..adobe makes my firefox crash
[07:26] <NeedHelpPLease> Can somone pelase tell me how to install nvidia drivers? Total noob here.
[07:26] <c0nf> Hansemann: thank you very much
[07:26] <jrib> !nvidia > NeedHelpPLease
[07:26] <Jimmey> jrib, /usr/lib/firefox/firefox/
[07:26] <birdfish> whishup: I tried windows server 2003 for a short while, but I like the *nix environment a lot better.  You should check it out some time.  Running without a gui isn't too hard anyway.  And 6.06 will set up almost everything for you to begin with :D
[07:26] <wastrel> ljl sysutils contians dos2unix  <3 sysutils  but it isn't installed by default
[07:26] <AdamKili> hey who was the person helping me? I had to reboot to see if it worked, and it did. I had to install the ubuntu-desktop package.
[07:26] <Tim91> POVaddct: please dont let me get confusd .
[07:26] <simonp> sanmarcos: is it sata or pata?
[07:26] <LjL> wastrel: sysutils is a dummy package in edgy though
[07:26] <profoX`> LjL: iter: i found something better too :) to just check it: od -c file
[07:26] <sanmarcos> simonp: pata
[07:26] <wastrel> yeah
[07:26] <wastrel> useful one :] 
[07:26] <whishup> birdfish: You're misunderstanding me =) I run ubuntu server on that domain, I have 4 other remote linux servers http://dnspathing.com
[07:27] <POVaddct> Tim91: so how is your modem connected now?
[07:27] <jrib> Jimmey: does 'about:plugins' in your address bar say anything about flash?
[07:27] <reiki> can't believe I've been running on one core all this time and thinking how FAST this machine is. Oughta be interesting to see if there's a difference with both cores running :)
[07:27] <Moroso> buonasera a lor signori
[07:27] <Tim91> POVaddct: its connected to a nic card on the ubuntu pc
[07:27] <whishup> birdfish: We run a local torrentflux, dotproject, and NFS server off the local server, Ubuntu has sped up my understanding of linux 1000 fold.
[07:27] <Jimmey> jrib: , I've got x-shockwave-flash and futuresplash
[07:27] <birdfish> whishup: I must have missed something before your statement about the windows server then.  I just installed and don't have highlighting set up yet :P
[07:27] <POVaddct> Tim91: so the ubuntu machine _has_ two network interfaces, just what i said
[07:27] <simonp> sanmarcos: are the partitions mounted anyway? are they in /etc/fstab? do they have the user option in it?
[07:27] <elriah> Anyone know how to install 6.10 FROM a USB key?
[07:28] <Tim91> POVaddct: You write
[07:28] <jrib> Jimmey: do you see flash on http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/
[07:28] <POVaddct> Tim91: write?
[07:28] <birdfish> whishup: ah :D  Yeah, I'm beginning to learn a lot also
[07:28] <Tim91> POVaddct: Correct
[07:28] <Jimmey> jrib, I think it's working now
[07:28] <Jimmey> Ohhh
[07:28] <Jimmey> Wait.
[07:28] <whishup> birdfish: I was just saying that my local windows server "ran" like hot garbage compared to the ubuntu. It's amazing really, I've actually seen a faster upload off that machine to work... haha
[07:28] <Jimmey> jrib, I think
[07:28] <POVaddct> Tim91: it's "right", not "write"
[07:28] <sanmarcos> simonp: they have the users option, and edgy converted all my hdx* to UUID bullshit
[07:28] <antoni2> question. what is better to use when @ a public hotspot to tunnel to my linux box? ssh tunnel or squid (proxy)
[07:28] <Tim91> POVaddct: right POVaddct:
[07:28] <Jimmey> jrib, wtf is up with this link: www.miniclip.com/games/save-the-sheriff/en/
[07:29] <POVaddct> Tim91: okay. so you want to use your ubuntu machine as a nat router for the other machine
[07:29] <birdfish> whishup: I've gained a lot of confidence as well.  Even though I'm off at college with not direct access to the server, I take comfort in knowing that if I can't get into the system, the worst that could happen would be that I would have to walk my dad through inserting the installer cd and hitting a couple buttons
[07:29] <jrib> Jimmey: it's probably shockwave
[07:29] <Jesus> Does anyone know something about libc.so.6? What do I need to fix: "/bin/bash: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /bin/bash)"
[07:29] <Jimmey> jrib, I think otherwise, Flash works, but just not there - Unless I've got it wrong
[07:29] <simonp> sanmarcos: i like the uuid bullshit : )
[07:29] <daniele_982> hello i've a problem with my modem adsl usb conexant.In ubuntu dapper i do this guide: http://www.webalice.it/lorenzo.chiodi/cxacru/index.html but with edgy when i lunch this command:
[07:29] <daniele_982> but with edgy when i lunch this command:
[07:29] <Tim91> POVaddct: right
[07:29] <sanmarcos> simonp: what is it ?
[07:29] <Jimmey> jrib, I can play videos from YouTube
[07:29] <sanmarcos> simonp: how are we supposed to know what is what?
[07:29] <daniele_982> daniele@daniele:~/ubuntu_cxacru$ ./install_cxacru CnxEtU.sys
[07:29] <daniele_982> .: 3: functions.sh: not found
[07:29] <POVaddct> Tim91: for that you have to enable routing _and_ nat on it
[07:29] <jrib> Jimmey: adobe does not provide a shockwave plugin for linux.  shockwave != flash
[07:29] <whishup> birdfish: Is the speed ok? http://homepage.modestonetwork.com (Thats a DSL home server), yep, no doubt, my wife has actually become a major fan of ubuntu, she's been reinvoiigorated
[07:29] <simonp> sanmarcos: each partition have a specific uuid assigned by mkswap, mke2fs, etc..
[07:29] <POVaddct> Tim91: routing is done by writing to the /proc file you mentioned above
[07:30] <Jimmey> jrib, what does yours say?
[07:30] <jrib> Jimmey: says I don't have the plugin
[07:30] <sanmarcos> simonp: right ok, it solves the problem with udev (p.o.s) naming, but how are we supposed to know which uuid is what hd?
[07:30] <Jimmey> jrib, ah..
[07:30] <whishup> birdfish: She's installed it on her laptop (5 times), workstation, about the same amount. She keeps mucking around where she shoudlnt, hell, she's learning stuff about linux I dont know... by breaking it haha, but she is undaunted.
[07:30] <minimec> Jimmey: If you are working on edgy with firefox 2.0 I strongly recommend you to install the flash9 beta of the adobe homepage. You will love it ...
[07:30] <POVaddct> Tim91: and nat is enabled by a specific iptables rule
[07:30] <AdamKili> hey what happens if i install both the ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop package? does it ask me when it boots up which i want to use? GNOME or XFCE?
[07:30] <Jimmey> jrib, it says "Shockwave Flash"
[07:30] <simonp> sanmarcos: that way, if you move your drives (hda becomes hdc, or sdc becomes sdg) they still mount
[07:30] <david_> AdamKili: yes
[07:30] <jrib> Jimmey: only way to get flash (I think), mkight be to use windows version of firefox through wine and install shockwave from there
[07:30] <Tim91> POVaddct: can you control my pc and do this
[07:31] <birdfish> whishup: yep, speed is fine.  my personal page is at http://www.purplewired.com no real information yet.  I just like messing around with the css for the time being
[07:31] <Jimmey> minimec, is that easy?
[07:31] <sanmarcos> simonp: its a great concept, so is udev, and look at it..
[07:31] <POVaddct> Tim91: let's continue this in a query
[07:31] <kodat> is there a flash alternative to adobe that anyone knows offhand
[07:31] <whishup> birdfish: Is that running from your local server?
[07:31] <sanmarcos> simonp: how do we know what hd is uuid
[07:31] <kodat> cuz adobe crashes my firefox
[07:31] <birdfish> whishup: yep.  DSL (business class) as well
[07:31] <AdamKili> david_: cool. i'll try it out. I won'y loose any of my GNOME preferences unless I uninstall ubuntu-desktop right?
[07:31] <whishup> birdfish: Cool, checking the speed
[07:31] <simonp> sanmarcos: do you have the volumeid package installed?
[07:31] <AdamKili> won't*
[07:32] <sanmarcos> simonp: ye
[07:32] <geokok> Hi. I cannot create forms in OO base. Any help?I use the wizard, go through all the steps but when I hit finish nothing happens
[07:32] <minimec> Jimmey: Download the file, untar ist and read the install instructions. You just have to copy the libflash...so file to /usr/lib/firefox.
[07:32] <timhaughton> Does the server edition have hotplug or an equivalent? I have to manually mount my server's external USB drives.
[07:32] <jrib> Jimmey: be sure to remove your old flash before installing flash9
[07:32] <Jimmey> minimec, thanks
[07:32] <whishup> birdfish: Ahh ok, little there right? Or its my browser.
[07:32] <jrib> !flash9 > Jimmey
[07:33] <simonp> sanmarcos:  sudo vol_id -u /dev/hda2
[07:33] <birdfish> whishup: no real content yet.  Just the main page.  But your browser does need some css2 support to display the popup information
[07:33] <daniele_982> hello i've a problem with my modem adsl usb conexant.In ubuntu dapper i do this guide: http://www.webalice.it/lorenzo.chiodi/cxacru/index.html but with edgy when i lunch this command:
[07:33] <daniele_982> but with edgy when i lunch this command:daniele@daniele:~/ubuntu_cxacru$ ./install_cxacru CnxEtU.sys
[07:33] <daniele_982> .: 3: functions.sh: not found
[07:33] <tec> whta do you guys use to net call using yahoo messenger?
[07:33] <simonp> sanmarcos: or whatever the partition
[07:33] <sanmarcos> simonp: ok, so no ideas why nautilus wont be seeing my hds?
[07:34] <birdfish> whishup: I'll eventually set up some tutorials regardin different subjects for peers at school (should they choose to expand their knowledge at some point instead of just sitting around getting drunk all day)
[07:34] <whishup> birdfish: I want a static IP for sure now here. Ive ran a DDNS service here locally for about 7 years always putting off justifying a static, but now... I can see running a local backup server for all of my remote servers here, freeing up 80gb drives in each remote server (Each one has two 80gb drives.
[07:34] <whishup> birdfish: lol, drunk all day.
[07:34] <birdfish> =)
[07:34] <whishup> ubuntu is teh sexay
[07:35] <whishup> admit it lol
[07:35] <birdfish> wishup: I've never looked into ddns before, but might eventually just to learn about setting it up.  I just  lucked out with my father running a small business out of the house, we have 5 statics so I just took one
[07:35] <birdfish> Definitely teh sexay!
[07:35] <Warbo> If I compiled and installed a new version of dbus would I screw up my system?
[07:36] <VanessaE> hi all.
[07:36] <AdamKili> Whishup: ya i like the new Edgy Ubuntu graphic when it's booting up
[07:36] <ubuntu_> Is the partitoner on the dapper install considered safe to resize an NTFS partition?
[07:36] <birdfish> AdamKili: definitely much prettier than the old one
[07:36] <TooTallJones> Hey guys, i'm getting this error when attempting to run cedega "(Point2Play_gui.py:4822): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.       Using the fallback 'C' locale. Traceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play_gui.py", line 42, in ?    locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, '')  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/locale.py", line 381, in setlocale    return _setlocale(category, locale) locale.
[07:36] <TooTallJones>  Error: unsupported locale setting"
[07:36] <TooTallJones> it was just working last night, not sure why it started doing that
[07:36] <Warbo> ubuntu_: Yes. If something goes wrong at any point then all it will do is give up and not do anything at all
[07:36] <whishup> birdfish: If you have a static there's no reason for DDNS, I overlay with one of my remote servers: modestonetwork.com runs out of he.net in Fremont California, then homepage.modestonetwork.com points to my free DDNS address, its actually mbshost.mine.nu (Ugly), so I translate the ugly name to my fremont server, which finds my dynamic ip here at the house.
[07:37] <simonp> sanmarcos: they don't mine neither ;)
[07:37] <sanmarcos> simonp: they should appear
[07:37] <ubuntu_> Warbo, What happens if i try to resize it and make a partition that is too small for the exsisting data?
[07:37] <Warbo> ubuntu_: The only problems might occur if you get a power cut halfway through or something, but the same goes for anything HD related like defragging too
[07:37] <birdfish> whishup: ah
[07:37] <|thunder> TooTallJones; tried changing local settings ?
[07:37] <whishup> birdfish: When you type in homepage.modestonetwork.com it actually translates to mbshost.mine.nu which is updated by my local router at www.dyndns.ws
[07:37] <Warbo> ubuntu_: Good luck doing that, it won't let you
[07:37] <birdfish> whishup: sounds like a hella routing issue :P
[07:37] <matthi> !w32codecs
[07:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:37] <sanmarcos> simonp: is ustart async?, meaning something might start before something else? because I cant have this bullshit of the naming changings in /dev
[07:37] <ubuntu_> Warbo, Thats great thanx
[07:37] <TooTallJones> I'm not sure how to change them as I can't get into the cedega gui at all
[07:38] <krojko> Hey, can someone give me some instructions for a Radeon card? I followed the Ubuntu wiki regarding binary drivers, but I'm still on software rendering in glxgears
[07:38] <TooTallJones> or do you mean something else?
[07:38] <birdfish> whishup: if you ever need any help with any of that stuff, I've got a pal that works at dyndns
[07:38] <whishup> birdfish: Its a "little bit" but really easy when it comes right down to it. I want to get into static IP so I'm not breaking RFC for mail etc.
[07:38] <birdfish> yeah
[07:38] <whishup> birdfish: Very cool, good to know =) I'm intending to get the static and use their services for failover to one of my remote boxes.
[07:38] <CarinArr> hey, i'm having some problems getting my wireless card working, i've been following all the instructions for setting up ndiswrapper, it verifies the drivers are fine and the hardware is connected, and i can see several wireless access points when i scan the network, but i can't connect
[07:39] <whishup> birdfish: I'm coastdweller on ubuntuforums (Just for your memory, like you need more to stuff in your brain).
[07:39] <birdfish> whishup: join freenode#nullshells and talk to dren they =) (just tell him I sent you over)
[07:39] <|thunder> TooTallJones; I mean the locale settings, as in, which locale is ubuntu in? US. African. russian. martian. you know. locale
[07:39] <birdfish> heh
[07:39] <RalleAb> omg guys.. I installed the new edge eftblah today and thought it was cool. I installed it upon my dapper drake. but now the boot menu is wrong. I looked through several tutorials to set it up so I can boot from Windows (NTFS) but it just say that the selected partition is unknown.
[07:39] <c0nf> heeeeey
[07:39] <c0nf> Czstotliwo odchylania pionowego  	50 - 160 Hz
[07:39] <c0nf> Czstotliwo odchylania poziomego  	30 - 71 kHz
[07:39] <simonp> sanmarcos: i guess the newer gnome don't show them anymore, i don't know why. let me google a bit
[07:39] <TooTallJones> |thunder, no.  It's US. Where do I go to change that?
[07:39] <c0nf> which one is horizsync and which one is vertisync or something like that
[07:39] <c0nf> ?
[07:39] <BHSPitLappy> hey, I just installed edgy, but I didn't do grub right... can I run the installer again, but just do the bootloader step?
[07:39] <birdfish> whishup: if you keep the same nick most of the time around here, I'll find you next time I sign in =)  But I gotta bolt for a bit.  Time to get some work done.  I'll look you up on the forums :D
[07:40] <sanmarcos> simonp: dapper didnt it
[07:40] <|thunder> TooTallJones; not really sure, never had to myself. But thats what I think of when I hear locale
[07:40] <whishup> birdfish: I'll keep a mental note, really its going to be awhile that I change what I do, damn statics are expensive here. I like my 25 bucks a month for 6mb/600k dsl, going up to static brings it to 100 bucks a month.
[07:40] <CarinArr> the only error message i get in /var/log/messages when loading ndiswrapper is Oct 29 18:20:03 localhost kernel: [17180091.364000]  ndiswrapper (set_encr_mode:701): setting encryption mode to 6 failed (C00000BB)
[07:40] <whishup> birdfish no worry! take it easy.
[07:40] <alecjw> BHSPitLappy: do sudo grub
[07:40] <whishup> birdfish: Yep, whishup or coastdweller, still learning ubuntu =)
[07:40] <stacy> hello
[07:40] <BHSPitLappy> alecjw, from the livecd? or a chroot
[07:40] <Warbo> hi
[07:40] <whishup> Hi Stacy
[07:40] <c0nf> whaley: wtf? i got my 100mbit net with static ip for 20euro (10 actually)
[07:40] <Rav|strangler> anyone know a good program to make flash animations?
[07:40] <c0nf> ops
[07:40] <alecjw> BHSPitLappy: yes, on the livecd
[07:40] <c0nf> whishup
[07:40] <c0nf> :)
[07:41] <BHSPitLappy> Rav|strangler, f4l
[07:41] <BHSPitLappy> google it
[07:41] <Rav|strangler> thanks you
[07:41] <Warbo> Rav|strangler: Moho (now called AnimeStudio) is what I use
[07:41] <luisbg> is cannonical going to ship for free edgy cd's as they did with hoary? have a install party in two weeks at my college
[07:41] <Rav|strangler> thanks you also
[07:41] <stacy> im really new to ubuntu this is only the 2nd time ive used the irc chat
[07:41] <whaley> c0nf: heheh, that's twice you've false alarmed me :)
[07:41] <RalleAb> I have grub problems with windows.. I set it all up right.. but it wont recognize my windows partitio
[07:41] <c0nf> :(
[07:41] <c0nf> sorry:P
[07:41] <whishup> c0nf: Can you do a speedtest here?: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest and post your results?
[07:41] <stacy> and i have some major issues i need help with if anyone can help me id appreciate it
[07:41] <whaley> c0nf: np :)
[07:41] <alecjw> BHSPitLappy: where do you have grub installed, is it (hd0,0)
[07:41] <unixslut> you tell me
[07:41] <c0nf> whishup, sec
[07:41] <^punisher> dunno
[07:42] <whishup> stacy: STart with your first major problem
[07:42] <stacy> i need to learn how to install the macromedia flashplayer to the web browsers
[07:42] <sanmarcos> its adobe
[07:42] <c0nf> whishup: i dont have java :(
[07:42] <whishup> stacy: The easy way is to install Automatix2
[07:42] <whishup> c0nf: You can install it with Automatix2
[07:42] <stacy> i tried it last night but couldnt get it done where is that at
[07:42] <n1gke> stacy, what you looking for ?
[07:42] <Flannel> stacy whishup, no.  automatix is not the answer.  whishup, please don't recommend automatix here.
[07:42] <|thunder> where do I put the libflash.so for FireFox2 on edgy ?
[07:42] <RalleAb> is there a way to install windows bootloader without having to reinstall?
[07:42] <stacy> macromedia flashplayer install
[07:42] <c0nf> why would i want java? its slow bad ... mofo
[07:43] <whishup> Flannel: I didn't realize it was off limits.
[07:43] <alecjw> BHSPitLappy: are you still there?
[07:43] <Flannel> whishup: now you know ;)
[07:43] <whishup> Flannel: Thanks.
[07:43] <Warbo> stacy: I usually find the flash package from debian-multimedia.org work well (Flash is binary anyway, so no extra incompatibilities exist for that Debian package)
[07:43] <Flannel> RalleAb: sure, boot up your window CD, and 'fixmbr'
[07:43] <BHSPitLappy> whishup, well, it's an official channel, and you're recommending an unofficial component that is known to make problems...
[07:43] <minimec> |thunder: /usr/lib/plugins
[07:43] <geokok> any howto install java links for edgy please?
[07:43] <stacy> ok hang on let me find that web site
[07:44] <Flannel> !java | geokok
[07:44] <minimec> |thunder: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[07:44] <ubotu> geokok: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:44] <whishup> BHSPitLappy: Yep, got it when first told =) (Whishup got the smackdown laid on him).
[07:44] <|thunder> minimec; ahh. thanks. I put it in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[07:44] <Flannel> !flash | stacy
[07:44] <ubotu> stacy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:44] <sanmarcos> do you guys using edgy get the list of your partitions in nautilus' Computer: ?
[07:44] <geokok> thanks
[07:44] <BHSPitLappy> alecjw, I already had grub on hd0,0.  When I installed edgy (in place of an old dapper partition), I installed to hd1,0, but if I boot to that one, the new grub menu comes up, I can choose edgy but it says it can't mount the filesystem.
[07:44] <minimec> |thunder: Leave it also there. Opera might need it ;)
[07:44] <Flannel> stacy: also, if you want flash9 beta (it *is* a beta, see the !flash9 factoid)
[07:45] <|thunder> minimec; ok, but i dont use opera. but it can stay. thanks again
[07:45] <meat`2> hello. i have a question about network manager. it's installed and seemingly working (detects local wifi networks, etc) but it doesn't seem to actually be communication with my wireless card since the activity light never blinks
[07:45] <alecjw> BHSPitLappy: do the following commands in a teminal: sudo grub THEN root (hd0,0) THEN setup(hd0) on the livecd and see what happens when you reboot
[07:45] <meat`2> and i can't connect to any networks
[07:45] <minimec> |thunder: I am just trying opera right now (chatting...) Not so bad...
[07:46] <kodat> man my firefox runs slow
[07:46] <Warbo> stacy: http://debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/f/flash-player/flashplayer-mozilla_7.0.68.0-0.0_i386.deb
[07:46] <link_36p> I removed the system try applet from my gnome dock is there a way to get it back?
[07:46] <Daviey> How long does the partitioner take on the dapper install?
[07:46] <AdamKili> is it just me, or does ubuntu seem to take up more, and more, and more hard drive space? It used to take up 10 GB, but now it takes up 12. how can i find out which packages I don't need anymore and uninstall them?
[07:46] <Warbo> link_36p: Right click, add to panel and find it in there
[07:46] <tuxnal> i need help with alsa and oss anybody about?
[07:46] <|thunder> minimec; its rated the best all the time. but I prefer FF
[07:46] <link_36p> Warbo i searched every single item in there and it wasnt there :'(
[07:47] <LjL> AdamKili: are you on edgy?
[07:47] <Warbo> AdamKili: Install debfoster, it takes a while to finish but it is worth it
[07:47] <AdamKili> ya
[07:47] <loki505> ok i have 6.06 lts version of ubuntu and i been hearing  that there is another version that is more stable and i was wandering how i can upgrade if i can
[07:47] <sanmarcos> do you guys using edgy get the list of your partitions in nautilus' Computer: ?
[07:47] <Flannel> Warbo, stacy, flash is in the ubuntu repositories, no need to use debian ones
[07:47] <minimec> |thunder: I am a 'Fox' too, but ... stay open ;)
[07:47] <Warbo> Flannel: I know for Dapper the flashplugin-nonfree package never worked for me
[07:47] <link_36p> Anyone know a way to get tasklist thing back where it shows gaim?
[07:47] <AdamKili> Warbo: thanks hope it helps
[07:48] <AlienX> loki505, do not upgrade! I know, the topic says you can but I totally would not do it as it's not stable, flawless or fun by any means.
[07:48] <link_36p> Warbo if your on ubuntu can you check if its there for you?
[07:48] <Warbo> AdamKili: You will have to run "sudo debfoster" after it is installed you realise :)
[07:48] <link_36p> Warbo and tell me what its called
[07:48] <tristan__> Hi all
[07:48] <LjL> AdamKili: on edgy, you can do "sudo apt-get autoremove" to remove packages that are not needed anymore. debfoster and orphaner are also possibilities, though you have to take time and care
[07:48] <loki505> how bout the version of ubuntu that is coming out next year in april
[07:48] <loki505> is that one stable
[07:48] <Warbo> link_36p: Utilities>Notification Area
[07:49] <Warbo> loki505: It will be
[07:49] <tec> hi
[07:49] <ayaa> wich application other than firefox can let me navigate internet ?
[07:49] <Jesus> Does anyone know something about libc.so.6? What do I need to fix: "/bin/bash: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /bin/bash)"
[07:49] <LjL> AdamKili: however, if you have upgraded from an older version, "apt-get autoremove" won't recognize the unneeded packages that were installed on the older version, because there was no such feature then
[07:49] <tec> how do i logout in icewm?
[07:49] <tristan__> I just have a question. On Dapper when the system was preparing to launch it was kind of "verbose". Now on Edgy there is only the progression. Is it possible to have a verbose mode too?
[07:49] <tec> logout button wont work
[07:49] <AlienX> loki505, can't speculate as edgy just came out and development isn't open yet for the next round
[07:49] <Warbo> loki505: I would seriously recommend waiting until April though......
[07:49] <ThinkingMan> OK, I've got an odd one for you guys
[07:49] <loki505> so when it does come out do i just request a disk from the ubuntu site or download the image
[07:49] <AlienX> Warbo, kind of hard to speculate as no one knows what the final product will be in 6 months
[07:49] <LjL> tristan__: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst , and remove the "quiet" parameter from your kernel linux
[07:50] <AlienX> loki505, yes
[07:50] <LjL> tristan__: i mean, from you kernel line =)
[07:50] <tristan__> LjL, thanks
[07:50] <stacy> warbo its not letting me private message
[07:50] <tristan__> LjL, I made the correction myself ;)
[07:50] <ThinkingMan> Under edgy, vertical scrolling on my touchpad doesn't work *unless* I log out and then log back in, any ideas?
[07:50] <alecjw> ayaa: if you want something light, try dillo, if you want something commanline, lynx, o0therwise, there's konqeror and opera
[07:50] <LjL> stacy: you need to be registered for private messages
[07:50] <Warbo> AlienX: Yes, but it will end up stable maybe a few weeks after release. Dapper even got delayed to make it more stable
[07:50] <AlienX> stacy, is your nick registered
[07:50] <jabudia> python2.4-minimal does not install well on edgy
[07:50] <Warbo> stacy: You need to be registered
[07:50] <Dr_SoF> www.apelsinoff.net
[07:50] <AlienX> Warbo, yup, absolutely.
[07:50] <stacy> i thought i was but its telling me incorrect password and i know my password is right
[07:50] <loki505> so to clear things up for my slow self i can just download the image and put it in my disk drive and it should just pop up or whatever
[07:50] <ayaa> alecjw, got nothing with apt-cache search dillo
[07:51] <jabudia> help on python2.4-minimal !
[07:51] <Warbo> ayaa: Enable Universe
[07:51] <stacy> anyway warbo its telling me that something is conflicting
[07:51] <ThinkingMan> So.. why won't changes to xorg.conf load unless I log out/log in?
[07:51] <AlienX> loki505, no, it's easiest to burn the cd image to a CD or DVD
[07:51] <TooTallJones> It looks like I have to set up my locale for python in general, does anyone know how to do this?
[07:51] <alecjw> ayaa: it might be universe, do you have the universe repos enbled?
[07:51] <LjL> alecjw, ayaa: i also suggest "links2" for a lynx substitute, it's a good command-line browser and it also has a graphical mode ("-g" option) -- which however seems not to work by default in edgy (it works if you're already in X, though)
[07:51] <Warbo> stacy: Oh, maybe you have some flash package installed already?
[07:51] <loki505> yeah thats what i mean
[07:51] <loki505> so for know just wait
[07:51] <ayaa> yes
[07:51] <loki505> untill april
[07:51] <stacy> i think it is but its still not letting me play games
[07:52] <sanmarcos> LjL: it doenst work without X in any distro
[07:52] <stacy> i think i put the wrong one in how do i uninstall it
[07:52] <AlienX> loki505, if you want to upgrade, i'd say just wait. If you don't mind doing a fresh install, edgy is pretty decent.
[07:52] <mikedoty> Do I need 3 partitions to install Ubuntu?
[07:52] <tristan__> LjL, there is 2 quiet : one with ro quiet splash and another one which is just on a single line alone. I edit the second one?
[07:52] <LjL> sanmarcos: well, it should though, it's supposed to support framebuffer, DirectFB and svgalib... (tries svgalib by default i think)
[07:52] <AlienX> stacy, rm the libflash.so file in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[07:52] <loki505> and when i do upgrade will it delete all my files
[07:52] <loki505> in stuff
[07:52] <exhale> mikedoty, no only 2.. one for swap and one for /
[07:52] <LjL> tristan__: wait -- i believe it's the second line, but i'm not sure what the first line is
[07:52] <ayaa> got nothing with apt-cache search konqueror too
[07:53] <ayaa> and opera too
[07:53] <Warbo> stacy: Does the package manager complain, and if so what about? If the package manager doesn't complain then just restart your browser (which involves closing all of the windows which might be open) then trying a Flash site. That package is for Flash 7 by the way, 8 or 9 games won't work
[07:53] <AlienX> loki505, depends. Is your home directory a separate partition?
[07:53] <ayaa> whoch repo does provide those packages ?
[07:53] <bossa_nova> c0nf: did dpkg-reconfigure work for you?
[07:53] <loki505> nope
[07:53] <alecjw> ayaa: i could find dillo in synaptic - think it muct be universe
[07:53] <mikedoty> Alright, thanks exhale
[07:53] <loki505> its not
[07:53] <gizmo_the_great1> wastrel: you still there?
[07:53] <bj__> I have a problem with firefox and sounds. Flash works fine, but mp3's or wav's in the background of a normal page doesn't seem to work. I've tried a lot of stuff in the forum, but all the threads seem to be about flash not working.
[07:53] <LeoStewart> Anyone know a way to make Firefox take focus on the screen when a link is opened?
[07:53] <wastrel> yes
[07:53] <loki505> should it be
[07:53] <minimec> ThinkingMan: ... Because you are configuring the x-Modul and not only the gnome-session (or whatever you use. Once the x-server is running it will run until you stop it. You will have to reload it to aply changes.
[07:54] <LjL> tristan__: hmm i believe the right one is the "ro quiet splash" one (at least, i've tried it and it works, although it also gives some *too* verbose output at the very beginning) -- i believe the other line is for quieting grub itself, but i didn't notice that one before
[07:54] <simonp> sanmarcos: i didn't find anything : (
[07:54] <AlienX> loki505, then if you do an upgrade, you should be fine but if you do a clean install, you'll lose everything.
[07:54] <Warbo> bj__: Try installing alsa-oss and running "aoss firefox". If that doesn't fix it then maybe do some research into mozplugger
[07:54] <gizmo_the_great1> wastrel:  I am working with a greyscale image in The GIMP. But I want to add a coloured piece of text. How do I do that?
[07:54] <sanmarcos> simonp: it wasnt removed
[07:54] <hackel> Since upgrading to Edgy, I can't get basic DRI support for my ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M, because it's not supported by AIGLX.  Is there any way I can fix it?
[07:54] <AlienX> loki505, I always have my home directory it's own partition so I don't have to worry about losing data if I have to do a clean install
[07:54] <stacy> ok  it says error: conflicts with the installed package plugin nonfree
[07:54] <gizmo_the_great1> wastrel: because it only showing as greyscale conversions?
[07:54] <alecjw> ayaa: try aptititude search ...
[07:54] <bj__> Warbo: already tried that, thanks though. Ill look at mozplugger
[07:54] <JoseStefan> hi
[07:55] <loki505> is there a way to put my home so i dont have to worry
[07:55] <ayaa> alecjw, nothing too
[07:55] <overridex> bj__: might want to try mozilla-mplayer as well
[07:55] <tristan__> LjL, ok thanks
[07:55] <wastrel> gizmo_the_great1:  you'll have to convert to rgb first,  then i think you have to mess with the palette-   i'm by no means an expert, i just normally fix digital camera pix with gimp.
[07:55] <ThinkingMan> minimec: I think I get what you're saying but that's not what I think is going on, you see, I changed the conf, logged out, logged in and I see the effect, however, if I reboot, the changes aren't in effect even though they're still in the conf file
[07:55] <alecjw> ayaa: and are you sure you hve the universe repos?
[07:55] <Warbo> stacy: OK, in a terminal run this "sudo dpkg -r flashplugin-nonfree"
[07:55] <bj__> overridex: good idea, I never liked the plugin but it might work better
[07:55] <ThinkingMan> minimec: but if I then log out and log in (without changing xorg.conf at all) the effect will be there
[07:55] <gizmo_the_great1> wastrel: ok thanks. I will see what I can do. :-)
[07:56] <tristan__> Btw I have another question. I want to change my cmputer name so I make sudo hostname newname. It works fin for the current session but when I shutdwon the compter it forgets the newname...
[07:56] <ThinkingMan> it's as if the first session doesn't recognize the changes
[07:56] <BHSPitLappy> woot, fixed
[07:56] <loki505> i wanna thank alienX for all the help
[07:56] <ayaa> how to use proxy with apt-get ?
[07:56] <loki505> keep it up
[07:56] <AlienX> loki505, not really easily unless you want to do a backup of all your files. My partitions look like this: I have a partition for / (root), a partition for linux swap, and a partition for /home
[07:56] <stacy> its reading the database
[07:56] <AlienX> loki505, np
[07:56] <ayaa> i have an apt-proxy in my network but i dont know how to pass through it
[07:56] <stacy> removing flashplugin non free
[07:56] <loki505> ok everyone talke to u laters by
[07:56] <bobbyyu> I used Diskmounter, and I can't mount the Windows mounts to be writable
[07:56] <stacy> ready
[07:56] <minimec> ThinkingMan: This .. (by the way) is a strange fact ... Is it an synaptics touchpad?
[07:56] <mikedoty> Oh, hey, how large of partitions should I create for swap and / do ya think?  I have 50GB to choose from if I'd like, though I have to keep some of that for my XP partition
[07:57] <ThinkingMan> minimec: yep
[07:57] <eXistenZ> anyone have experience with shoutcast?
[07:57] <bobbyyu> I got the script from www.ubuntu.nl
[07:57] <LjL> ayaa: i think you should just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and set the address of the relevant machine as the repository
[07:57] <NemesisD> hey does anyone know how easy it would be to set up dual monitors on Ubuntu?
[07:57] <|thunder> hey all. need some flash help. I found a post on the ubuntu forums states that installing 'lib32asound2' will fix sound the flash9. But I have o package by that name. All my repos are uncommented too. any ideas ?
[07:57] <AlienX> mikedoty, i'd do 10gb for /, 2x your ram for swap and the rest for /home
[07:58] <bobbyyu> Is there something I did wrong?
[07:58] <ThinkingMan> minimec: why do I have the feeling that you knowing it was a synaptics touchpad is bad news
[07:58] <Warbo> stacy: Now try installing that Debian package again
[07:58] <mikedoty> Oh, so 3 partitions after all?
[07:58] <tristan__> mikedoty, AlienX I think that 1Go for swap is enough...
[07:58] <mikedoty> I have 512ram so 1 gb would work fine :)
[07:58] <stacy> ok i went to that one web site correct debian.org
[07:58] <tristan__> mikedoty, will you be only Linux or dual bot?
[07:58] <minimec> ThinkingMan: I never had problems with my 'synaptics', upgading breezy-dapper-edgy. I don't see a reason why the driver should not load the first time... strange...
[07:58] <tristan__> boot sorry
[07:58] <Studiosus> Hi, all! How can I add to grub new kernel compiled on other linux distro on disk?
[07:58] <Warbo> stacy: I gave you a direct link to the file you need > http://debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/f/flash-player/flashplayer-mozilla_7.0.68.0-0.0_i386.deb
[07:58] <AlienX> mikedoty, that's how *I* partition and have for years but some people have separate partitioning schemes but that has always worked for me
[07:58] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Studiosus about kernel
[07:58] <mikedoty> Well I'd like to keep xp on one, but I wouldn't boot both simultaneously or antyhing like that
[07:58] <ThinkingMan> minimec: I also found it strange, worked great in breezy and dapper
[07:59] <amiyourjuliet> Hi guys, Can someone help me resolve some g++ errors occuring during 'make'?  I've detailed the issue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1683916&postcount=16
[07:59] <sanmarcos> simonp: still there?
[07:59] <regionalpimp> I just upgraded to edgy, and when I boot up my monitor starts displaying crazy colors and I can't access a terminal... any idea how I Can revert to dapper or else fix this problem?
[07:59] <NemesisD> is a dual monitor setup on ubuntu something that I would need special drivers for?
[07:59] <pianoboy3333> Studiosus: you have to do a lot of crap, look at the community help or ubuntu wiki for grub
[07:59] <stacy> ok thanks
[07:59] <LeoStewart> Anyone have a guess as to when Flash 9 final will be released?
[07:59] <AlienX> mikedoty, how much space do you want to dedicate to windows?
[07:59] <pianoboy3333> Studiosus: or ask someone
[07:59] <LeoStewart> Or any inside information?
[07:59] <stacy> launching package installer
[07:59] <tristan__> mikedoty, then you should have one for your data formated in fat32 for using it on both Linux and Win, one for Win, one for / and one for swap
[07:59] <ThinkingMan> Is there anything that you can think of that would make the changes only work after a logout/in?
[07:59] <AdamKili> LjL: how do i know what to say yes and no to with debfoster?
[07:59] <LjL> amiyourjuliet: those are not errors.
[07:59] <mikedoty> Oh, I'd probably keep 5 - 10 gb of the 50gb available for windows
[07:59] <minimec> ThinkingMan: does the log file of xorg give you some errors?
[07:59] <AlienX> LeoStewart, when it's ready :) the beta is still *really beta* imo and hardly stable
[07:59] <tristan__> mikedoty, it suppose that in / you have also your /home
[07:59] <Studiosus> pianoboy3333, I just did :)
[07:59] <bobbyyu> can someone help?
[07:59] <Hansemann> Can someone help me with installing a wireless network card in ubuntu dapper? the name of the card is: Belkin F5D7001. Please PM me
[08:00] <cryptonic> how do you open the file viewer in admin again?
[08:00] <amiyourjuliet> LjL: What are they?
[08:00] <ThinkingMan> minimec: you're assuming I know where the xorg log file is
[08:00] <wd> hey Tristan  long time.
[08:00] <LjL> AdamKili: you should say "yes" to the packages you explicitely want to keep. i would be careful personally, though
[08:00] <tristan__> cryptonic, sudo nautilus
[08:00] <FX|Laptop> Hullo, just wondering if anyone has flash working in edgy with FF 2.0?
[08:00] <cryptonic> thx verry much
[08:00] <LjL> amiyourjuliet: normal messages that say the stuff is being compiled.
[08:00] <LeoStewart> AlienX: really?  I actually haven't had any problems with it.  No crashing... and the sound is actually in-sync.
[08:00] <AlienX> mikedoty, so 10 gb / (root), 1gb swap, 29gb /home is what I'd do
[08:00] <LjL> amiyourjuliet: and it looks to me like it's compiled succesfully.
[08:00] <mikedoty> Alright, sounds good :)
[08:00] <c0nf> yo nashnash
[08:00] <amiyourjuliet> LjL: Thanks
[08:00] <nashnash> i have just installed hebrew on 'Administration --> Language support (please still answer my question im nice jew^^) , how do i set it up on my keyboard now ? where is the keyboard settings?
[08:00] <wd> ok easy ubuntu link not working in edgy starter guide anybody have a good link?
[08:00] <FX|Laptop> I've got sound, but no picture. :(
[08:01] <minimec> ThinkingMan: Hmm.. /var/log/'anywhere'/xorg.0.log ;) maybe /var/log/messages
[08:01] <stacy> installing package now
[08:01] <tristan__> AlienX, the trouble is that he won't be able to use the data in /home under win. What do you think mikedoty
[08:01] <AlienX> LeoStewart, sometimes when you're watching several flash movies one after another, it tends to pause and not continue playing the movies :(
[08:01] <stacy> thank you so very much
[08:01] <Warbo> stacy: No problem
[08:01] <sanmarcos> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse does that line work for you guys?
[08:01] <mikedoty> Hm, I think it'd be acceptable like that.  I'd like to pretty much fully switch to ubuntu
[08:01] <nashnash> i have just installed hebrew on 'Administration --> Language support (please still answer my question im nice jew^^) , how do i set it up on my keyboard now ? where is the keyboard settings?
[08:01] <AlienX> tristan__, if he uses ext2, there is an ext2 driver for windows so he should be fine
[08:01] <LeoStewart> AlienX: interesting.  Maybe I haven't been YouTubing enough. ;)
[08:01] <ThinkingMan> minimec: found /var/log/xorg.0.log
[08:01] <LjL> AdamKili: also, personally i'd try orphaner first. it's a bit easier on you, and by default it only looks at *libraries*, not everything... which imho would make it much more error-proof
[08:01] <ThinkingMan> looking through it now
[08:02] <c0nf> help nashnash
[08:02] <stacy> im going to check it out right now to make sure i didnt mess up
[08:02] <c0nf> he is nice jew
[08:02] <AlienX> LeoStewart, heh, yeah, i'm a bit of an addict ;)
[08:02] <c0nf> XDDD
[08:02] <nashnash> lol
[08:02] <LjL> AdamKili: the other side of the coin obviously being that it'll remove less cruft
[08:02] <bossa_nova> c0nf: did dpkg-reconfigure work for you?
[08:02] <wd> anyone have a easy ubuntu link that works, i would hate to install everything from the edgy starter guide....
[08:02] <nashnash> i have just installed hebrew on 'Administration --> Language support (please still answer my question im nice jew^^) , how do i set it up on my keyboard now ? where is the keyboard settings?
[08:02] <simonp> sanmarcos: i think nautilus now shows only removable storage
[08:02] <c0nf> bossa_nova: no
[08:02] <LjL> !easyubuntu | wd
[08:02] <ubotu> wd: EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:02] <c0nf> bossa_nova: it hangs after i chose video card name
[08:02] <c0nf> bossa_nova: i gonna try x64 version of ubuntu later
[08:03] <c0nf> bossa_nova: people say it works for them under x64 version o_O
[08:03] <wd> LjL,  been there not working
[08:03] <sanmarcos> simonp: no, if anybody payed attention to me here and could check for us..
[08:03] <AdamKili> LjL: orphaner isn't in Synaptic
[08:03] <minimec> ThinkingMan: That's it. Is the touchpad your CorePointer?
[08:03] <bossa_nova> c0nf: before I did it, I could see the GDM login -- but now, the screen just goes black. I can still get a console though.
[08:03] <LeoStewart> So are the rumors true?  Is Automatix really that bad?
[08:03] <Flannel> LeoStewart: yes
[08:03] <bj__> overridex: mplayer plugin no good either
[08:03] <bossa_nova> conf: I am using linux-ppc on an old iMac
[08:03] <c0nf> bossa_nova: mm.. i couldnt even use it :(
[08:04] <tristan__> LeoStewart, some says yes but I never had trouble with it. Use it at your own risk....
[08:04] <wastrel> ubunto
[08:04] <c0nf> aaah..
[08:04] <wd> LeoStewart, terrible  :( crashed me three times on previous linux boxes
[08:04] <c0nf> :o
[08:04] <ThinkingMan> minimec: I think
[08:04] <ThinkingMan> lemme pastebin my xorg.0.log file for ya
[08:04] <LjL> AdamKili: right, the package name is "deborphan". orphaner is the command for getting a text interface to it
[08:04] <adi_> is there a way to extract the contents of a .img file without having to mount it as loopback?
[08:04] <LeoStewart> Very interesting.  Didn't it also used to have its own Third-Party Program forum?  What happened to that?
[08:04] <wd> tristan__,  i'm back on ubuntu, this time with some power.... "yeah"
[08:04] <Discipulus> can you format something FAT32 or how do I check what filesystem something is?
[08:04] <LeoStewart> Did arnieboy have a falling-out with the Ubuntu staff or something?
[08:05] <sid> All the keys on my keyboard work(email/internet/search/mute/volume up+down, then only key that doesn't work is the windows key.
[08:05] <tristan__> wd, you might believe I'm someone else....maybe
[08:05] <nashnash> i have just installed hebrew on 'Administration --> Language support (please still answer my question im nice jew^^) , how do i set it up on my keyboard now ? where is the keyboard settings?
[08:05] <LjL> !offtopic | LeoStewart
[08:05] <ubotu> LeoStewart: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:05] <AdamKili> LjL: thank
[08:05] <sid> How can I make the windows key on edgy open the gnome applications window?
[08:05] <Discipulus> can I format something vfat?
[08:05] <AdamKili> LjL: thank you
[08:05] <loki505> is there a way to make another partition
[08:05] <wd> tristan__, sorry
[08:05] <stacy> warbo thank you so very very much it works like a dream
[08:05] <Hansemann> does anybody using Belkin F5D7001 wireless network card right now on ubuntu?
[08:05] <LeoStewart> Argh... this channel is strict. ;)
[08:05] <tristan__> wd, I thought that my firstname was not so common
[08:05] <wd> Tristan, i'm back on ubuntu, with more pc power.. yeah
[08:05] <ThinkingMan> apparently pastebin is taking its time today...
[08:06] <justthisguy> hey guys, I'm on edgy and have all the standard repos I think, but aptitude can't find any rar-nonfree or just rar. Can anyone help?
[08:06] <Flannel> LeoStewart: there are 1100 people in it ;)
[08:06] <Tmob> is ther a gui tool for changing wireless connections?
[08:06] <wd> tristan__,   lol
[08:06] <minimec> ThinkingMan: Hmm.. When there is an error in the config of the CorePointer, xorg normally doesn't start at all. I think your xorg.conf is ok.
[08:06] <Tmob> i'm on edgy now
[08:06] <wd> anybody have edgy with easyubuntu? if so what link works?
[08:07] <apokryphos> wd: #easyubuntu
[08:07] <LjL> justthisguy: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[08:07] <tristan__> how can I register my nickname?
[08:07] <exhale> wd, easyubuntu website is down
[08:07] <apokryphos> !register | tristan__
[08:07] <ubotu> tristan__: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:07] <wd> exhale, thanks
[08:07] <LjL> tristan__: in your status window, type /msg nickserv help
[08:07] <adi11235> tristan__ : type /msg nickserv help
[08:07] <exhale> wd, no idea when its back up though.. :(
[08:07] <gb7055> Hi All.  I upgraded to Edgy and KRDC is not working like it did in Dapper.  I reinstalled Dapper last night as I need KRDC for work.  Anyone else having this problem?  Thanks!
[08:07] <ThinkingMan> minimec: http://rafb.net/paste/results/rydrg241.html
[08:08] <minimec> ThinkingMan: ok.
[08:08] <wd> exhale, so i guess i have to go from number to number to install from the edgy starter huh,,, darn.
[08:08] <LjL> gb7055: "not working" in what way? (i ask because, when i tried it, i had a problem with weird keyboard response)
[08:08] <cryptonic> I have an external drive formated to ntfs which i would like to get write access to, is there any simple way of doing this? if not whats the hard way?
[08:08] <wd> exhale, don't want to use automatix.
[08:08] <AdamKili> LjL: orphaner is only freeing 144 MB of space, how did ubuntu get so inflated? it used to be 10 GB (which is already a lot) and now it's 12!
[08:08] <wd> exhale, been there.
[08:08] <sid> !tell cryptonic about ntfsrw
[08:08] <Goof> I can't see the taskbar, anyone can help me please ?
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsrw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <exhale> wd, then just manually install what you need..
[08:08] <Flannel> !fuse | cryptonic
[08:08] <ubotu> cryptonic: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:08] <AlienX> cryptonic, change it to ext2 or fat32
[08:08] <exhale> wd, theres plenty of guides
[08:08] <elliot_> Hi all, got a slight problem installing beryl and XGL with my ATI card on 6.10. It works to a point, but no decoration starts and all windows lock to the top of the screen, and are impossible to move. I am using the UbuntuGuide tutorial
[08:08] <LjL> AdamKili, i'm sure that a fresh Ubuntu is *way* less than 10gb
[08:08] <stacy> ok now my sound is not working with this as well as its not letting me play one game that requires the keyboard for the controls
[08:08] <elriah> Anyone try to install 6.10 from usb key?  I don't have cdrom in my laptop ... (thinkpad x41 tablet)
[08:09] <Goof> elliot_, what ATI Card do you have?
[08:09] <wd> exhale, i know, what do u think about totem versus mplayer?
[08:09] <stacy> can we fix that
[08:09] <exhale> wd, i use totem but i havnt really tried mplayer so i cant say
[08:09] <elliot_> Goof: X1300
[08:09] <wd> exhale, cool
[08:09] <minimec> ThinkingMan: We are getting closer... '(WW) Synaptics Touchpad can't grab event device, errno=1022
[08:09] <minimec> (--) Synaptics Touchpad touchpad found'
[08:09] <gb7055> Hi Ljl.   I load the application and it when it goes to full screen the background bleeds into it.   I see part of my desktop and not the full screen on my other workstation.
[08:09] <Goof> wd, mplayer can play .mov files and many other, but I prefer vlc :)
[08:09] <cryptonic> i will change the format of the drive, but i need a quik fix for now seeing as it will take a while to back stuff up
[08:09] <wd> Goof, vlc really
[08:10] <ThinkingMan> minimec: OK, so what does that mean (and btw, what line wsa that on?)
[08:10] <wd> goof why
[08:10] <AdamKili> ya i think it was ~2.5GB. but it quickly got bigger for me. 20 GB of disk space is used, 10 GB is music, the rest has to be programs and junk
[08:10] <minimec> ThinkingMan: Do you have other usb devices on your laptop?
[08:10] <LjL> AdamKili, my (kubuntu) edgy right now is taking about 4gb... and i have a lot of non-default stuff installed (-dev packages, etc)
[08:10] <wd> Goof,  why
[08:10] <h3htimo> has anyone been having problems with the fglrx driver?? i cant get ubuntu to start with it
[08:10] <ThinkingMan> minimec: nothing connected right now
[08:10] <Goof> wd,  Because It can play almost any format.
[08:10] <LjL> gb7055: ah, no, haven't experienced that one
[08:10] <Trist_an> h3htimo, oh yes I had trouble....
[08:10] <wd> Goof, so i dont have to install the wmv codecs?
[08:10] <ThinkingMan> on occasion I use a usb mouse or plug in my camera through usb
[08:10] <Goof> wd,  nbop
[08:10] <Goof> nop
[08:11] <minimec> ThinkingMan: just a moment...
[08:11] <justthisguy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29184/
[08:11] <h3htimo> Trist_an, did you finally get it to work??
[08:11] <yoyo> hy all
[08:11] <basvg> wow, I can't believe I completely missed the release of etchy... damn new job <*mutter*>.. heard there were still a lot of issues with it though
[08:11] <LjL> AdamKili: did you compile stuff, as well? if so you'd have some/many -dev packages installed. those can take up space
[08:11] <wildchild> can someone help me solve this problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29185/ I am trying to reinstall java
[08:11] <boink> it's called "edgy"
[08:11] <Phoul> Anyone here have experience with icecast
[08:11] <boink> etchy is debian
[08:11] <wd> Goof, is it because totem uses gstreamer tech. and vlc uses something else?
[08:11] <boink> Phoul: icecast2?
[08:11] <LjL> boink: that's "etch" ;)
[08:11] <Phoul> Sure
[08:11] <AdamKili> LjL: ya i've had to compile a few things
[08:11] <basvg> errr, my bad (* nudges himself *)
[08:11] <boink> aah, ok :)
[08:11] <Trist_an> h3htimo, you should try vesa to boot and then try in the system settings - monitor and display choose fglrx. It does work after and I don't know why
[08:11] <Phoul> boink, can i pm?
[08:11] <gb7055> Thanks LjL.  I have Edgy installed on another PC and will hold off on upgrading until it's fixed.  Have a good day.
[08:11] <jeff_> How can I disable the feature where tapping in the bottom corner of my touchpad acts as a right click??
[08:12] <h3htimo> Trist_an, alright thnaks
[08:12] <Hansemann> i have problem installing the Belkin F5D7001 wireless network card. can someone that has managed to install it help me? or give me some links to tuts that work.
[08:12] <boink> naw, Phoul .. just ask here
[08:12] <ClayG> anyone know about core 2 duo's?
[08:12] <Goof> wd,  I don't know about totem, but vlc has it's own codec.
[08:12] <ClayG> i want to know if core 2 duo = 64bit?
[08:12] <basvg> new initsystem working ok?
[08:12] <yoyo> care e roman ba !!!!
[08:12] <h0ser> Has anoyone figured out the no window decorations for Beryl/AMD64/ATI?
[08:12] <Discipulus> Ubuntu picked up my MP3 player but now it's not picking it up what's the problem?
[08:12] <Icoo> guys I installed ubuntu 6.10 and it finnaly recognized my wireless card, I have a Broadcom 4311, I tried to install network-manager...but now everytiem i start gnome i get the message that nm is missing some utilities and can't start
[08:12] <boink> upstart? working just fine
[08:12] <Discipulus> or is it a problem with my MP3 player/
[08:12] <yoyo> care e roman
[08:12] <Phoul> boink, i need help setting it up
[08:12] <yoyo> ?
[08:12] <frolle> How do i uninstall nvidia drivers, i installed the new beta ones, but i want to uninstall them again? anyone?
[08:12] <Phoul> Could you join that channel plz?
[08:12] <boink> the icecast.conf ?
[08:12] <elliot_> Discipulus: yup
[08:12] <Goof> ClayG,  yup
[08:12] <boink> just fill it in
[08:13] <LjL> AdamKili: you could try "orphaner --guess-dev" (if that's even the right syntax), that will check for -dev packages as well as libraries
[08:13] <Discipulus> elliot_, mp3 player/
[08:13] <Phoul> boink, i did i just dont know how to make it play on my IP
[08:13] <astrobit> I did the update from dapper to edgy and now i got a "broken system" warning....and the update manager says "Error: Broken Count (greater than) 0" .... anybody knows how could i fix that?
[08:13] <ClayG> Goof: so core 2 duo is 64 bit?
[08:13] <Phoul> Im on a router...
[08:13] <basvg> boink: good to hear :) might venture an upgrade / reinstall of my laptop one of these days.. no longer 'mission crticial' as my dissertation is done ;)
[08:13] <jeff_> Icoo: Have you tried reinstalling nm via synaptic?
[08:13] <justthisguy> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29184/
[08:13] <Trist_an> h0ser, I have a Beryl and ATI but no AMD and I have no window decoration but if I log out and log in again, it works...
[08:13] <boink> you have a static or a dynmamic IP ?
[08:13] <ClayG> nice, i need to grab the 64 bit verion, hopefully it will be alot faste
[08:13] <jeff_> How can I disable the feature where tapping in the bottom corner of my touchpad acts as a right click??
[08:13] <elliot_> Discipulus: What?
[08:13] <luz> !w32codecs
[08:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:13] <Phoul> boink, dynamic
[08:13] <Goof> ClayG, core 2 duo is a true 64-bit processor, but to be on the safe side, just install 32-bit OS
[08:13] <Icoo> well there is one thing I wanted to ask before that
[08:13] <yoyo> care e ROMAN ???
[08:13] <boink> and you want your stream for the whole internet?
[08:13] <ClayG> ouch
[08:13] <AdamKili> LjL: ya that was the right syntax
[08:13] <Phoul> boink, uhh not really i wanna give it to a few friends
[08:14] <ClayG> Goof: this thing is a core 2 duo 2.0, will that stick me at 2ghz?
[08:14] <Discipulus> elliot_, is it a problem with my MP3 player or is it something else?
[08:14] <minimec> ThinkingMan: Your xorg.conf is looking for /dev/input/event3 for your synaptics touchpad, but does not find it. Hmmm... But why does the config work, when you restart gdm??? this is strange.
[08:14] <levarnu> Anyone have issues with a laptop waking up from suspend by itself (while closed)?
[08:14] <boink> even a few friends
[08:14] <Phoul> I just need help setting it up, plz join the channel i cant follow in here very well
[08:14] <wd> Goof, oh i see. totem is so generic looking, but it gets the job done... can i use kde apps in gnome, for a little eye candy?
[08:14] <LjL> justthisguy: you have universe enabled, but you don't have multiverse
[08:14] <sladen> jeff_: google for synclient
[08:14] <stacy> would it benifit me to get the adobe shockwave also
[08:14] <variant> wd: yes you can
[08:14] <boink> you'll need to use a service like dyndns.org to make that dynamic ip useable
[08:14] <wd> Variant thanks
[08:14] <variant> stacy: not really, i installed it once and then spent ages blocking every flash add lol
[08:14] <elliot_> Discipulus: You were talking about window decorations? and its probably something else in that case
[08:14] <Goof> wd,  yup, you can install kde apps in gnome and vice versa, it needs the libraries, header etc, for it to work
[08:14] <Icoo> when I type lspci it still writes "unknown device 4311 (rev 01)"  but I can see the wirless card in networking, in 6.06 i couldn't...is this normal?
[08:14] <Phoul> boink, wait...
[08:14] <Phoul> Which one is the one that doesnt change?
[08:15] <justthisguy> LjL: what about line 29? doesnt that work?
[08:15] <boink> static doesn't change
[08:15] <Phoul> Ahh
[08:15] <wd> Goof, thanks
[08:15] <ThinkingMan> minimec: am I reading this wrong or is it trying to load the touchpad twice?
[08:15] <jeff_> sladen: thanks
[08:15] <stacy> oh my i still cant play certain games it says there is still a missing plugin and takes me to adobe site
[08:15] <Phoul> How do i find out my IP if im on a router?
[08:15] <Discipulus> elliot_, I wasn't talking about window decorations you must have me confused I said my MP3 player was detected by the computer like 20 minutes ago and now it's not
[08:15] <variant> Phoul: ifconfig
[08:15] <boink> look in the router webinterface
[08:15] <LjL> justthisguy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29187/ <-- try this one. no, your line 29 is only for the backports repository
[08:15] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell justthisguy about repos
[08:15] <Discipulus> elliot_, but the MP3 player says it's plugged in
[08:15] <Icoo> when I type lspci it still writes "unknown device 4311 (rev 01)"  but I can see the wirless card in networking, in 6.06 i couldn't...is this normal?
[08:15] <jeff_> Icoo: not sure, but if it worked in 6.06 I wouldn't worry about it too much
[08:15] <variant> Phoul: oh, sorry. go to whatismyip.com :)
[08:15] <sanmarcos> simonp: no, they removed them, you are right
[08:15] <minimec> ThinkingMan: Have a look at that http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg89870.html
[08:16] <Discipulus> elliot_, when I try to mount it mount says "invalid block device"
[08:16] <ThinkingMan> minimec: check out line 2402 and 2406, same thing called twice but error in 2400
[08:16] <ThinkingMan> minimec: OK, lemme check it out
[08:16] <Icoo> no it didn't worked in 6.06
[08:16] <elliot_> Discipulus: Yup, sorry wrong person! But you getting that it won't mount? Yeah I have the trouble too. I think its ubuntu, not the player
[08:16] <Goof> LjL,  http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1jx4.png .. why can't I see the taskbar (where all the programs are) ?
[08:16] <stacy> im so close to giving up on this its not funny
[08:16] <justthisguy> LjL: sorry, I thought I'd seen it before like that with more than one repo on a line :( my bad :)
[08:16] <Hansemann> is it a irc channel for network help?
[08:16] <Phoul> variant, if i follow that ip thats on whatsmyip.com i get my router login screen
[08:16] <Icoo> jeff_:no it didn't worked in 6.06
[08:16] <Discipulus> elliot_, so what can I do to fix this problem cuz I just deleted all my songs on it
[08:16] <variant> stacy: what's the problem?
[08:16] <Hansemann> in ubuntu?
[08:16] <boink> stacy: then give up, frustration isn't fun
[08:16] <h3htimo> Trist_an, alright, i tried something, but nothings working
[08:16] <scot524> I've managed to configure a vpn tunnel from xubuntu edgy to our corporate lan. I can activate the interface with ifup and it works great. Is there any way to add the interface to the network-admin list of connections? Would be nicer for end users.
[08:16] <variant> Phoul: yeah, your router does network address translation
[08:16] <h3htimo> i have the mesa driver loaded and i really dont want it
[08:17] <hckrSid> Phoul: http://www.whatismyipaddress.com
[08:17] <LjL> justthisguy: it *does* work with more than one component (universe and multiverse etc are "components", not "repositories", even though there is some confusion)
[08:17] <variant> Phoul: if you want to host a service you will have to forward the port on your router to your lan address
[08:17] <elliot_> Discipulus: I found no workaround. It might be worth reporting it as a bug
[08:17] <stacy> i cant seem to get the flashplayer installed properly to get the music for games and my games thatrequire the keyboard dont work
[08:17] <jeff_> Icoo: then I'm not sure, sorry
[08:17] <Phoul> variant, how do i find out my lan addy?
[08:17] <variant> Phoul: ifconfig eth0
[08:17] <Daviey> How long shoudl i expect the partitioner on the dapper install to take?
[08:17] <Icoo> does anyone has a similar problem?
[08:17] <Hansemann> i have problem installing the Belkin F5D7001 wireless network card. can someone that has managed to install it help me? or give me some links to tuts that work.
[08:17] <ThinkingMan> minimec: so it looks like this could be a bug?
[08:17] <boink> if you're using a router, you'll need to setup the port forwarding too
[08:18] <LjL> justthisguy: the "edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" line is saying:  "from the "edgy-backports" repository (which is the one containing programs ported back from edgy+1), i want the main, restricted, universe and multiverse components"
[08:18] <minimec> ThinkingMan: Looks like something is buggy ... Maybe you have to describe your problem there and confirm the bug...
[08:18] <boink> and maybe it would be handy to give yourself a static ip number to your router
[08:18] <variant> stacy: sorry, no idea on that one
[08:18] <stacy> i installed the flashplayer just now and it works but not for certain games
[08:18] <justthisguy> LjL: ah, gotcha. Thanks :D
[08:18] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Goof about xgl
[08:18] <variant> stacy: you probably need flash9 then
[08:18] <hckrSid> Hansemann, did you check out the ubuntu wireless wiki?
[08:18] <Kimppa> Hi. I was wondering if it's possible to change gnome terminal's charset with a command line command?
[08:18] <boink> is there an ubuntu .deb for flash 9?
[08:18] <Phoul> variant, plz join that channel
[08:18] <variant> boink: dunno
[08:18] <stacy> someone just told me it was not for games and the such
[08:18] <ThinkingMan> minimec: would it help if I reboot and check out the original xorg.conf from the first session?
[08:18] <elliot_> Discipulus: strange, my problem came after deleting all the songs as well? what player you got?
[08:18] <Goof> LjL,  I already have XGL/Beryl up and running..
[08:18] <chapium> does anyone here know how to turn off tooltips in gnome or specifically on the panel?
[08:19] <LinuxGuy2006> I removed a program and it still shows up in gconf-editor, how do I remove it from gconf-editor
[08:19] <variant> Phoul: what channel?
[08:19] <Hansemann> yes... but i cant find anything there that works
[08:19] <LjL> justthisguy: ... and since there is no edgy+1 at the moment, the backports repository is empty ;-) so you want universe and multiverse to be mentioned for the "edgy" repository
[08:19] <stacy> and its only giving me the version 7 on the website
[08:19] <minimec> ThinkingMan: You mean the old 'dapper' xorg.conf?
[08:19] <Discipulus> elliot_, a disney mixstick
[08:19] <LjL> Goof: did that start happening after you got XGL and/or beryl running?
[08:19] <Discipulus> elliot_, similar to an ipod shuffle
[08:19] <stacy> could java help
[08:19] <hckrSid> Hansemann, do you know the chipset used in your card?
[08:19] <jonah1980> hi guys does anyone know if nvidia know about the bug with their new beta drivers or not and if it will be fixed soon? when opening more than a couple windows up when using compiz/beryl on edgy the windows appear black/unuasable and everything crashes. has anyone else encountered this problem and how can we get some action going for it to be fixed soon?
[08:19] <Daviey> How long shoudl i expect the partitioner on the dapper install to take?
[08:19] <Goof> LjL,  Yup
[08:19] <variant> stacy: you should have java installed for that sort of thing as well
[08:19] <gctaylor> With the aptitude terminal interface (not CLI) what is the correct way to NOT install the recommends?
[08:19] <justthisguy> LjL: cool, I'll do that now :)
[08:19] <LjL> Goof: then it's an XGL problem. ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:20] <ThinkingMan> minimec: no, but shouldn't my Xorg.0.log be different from the first session to the second?
[08:20] <elliot_> Discipulus: Ah, not the same as mine. it may be a bug with deleting all the songs. in which case get on a windows machine and add a file (ie a text file)
[08:20] <stacy> ok thats what i though but i wasnt sure
[08:20] <LinuxGuy2006> I removed a program and it still shows up in gconf-editor, how do I remove it from gconf-editor
[08:20] <minimec> ThinkingMan: Yeah. That could be true. Right.
[08:20] <jonah1980> as we have to use these beta drivers on nvidia to use beryl this is a big problem!
[08:20] <LjL> LinuxGuy2006: you don't (well, you can manually). the gconf stuff is stored in your /home directory, which APT never touches
[08:20] <Hansemann> broadcom somthing
[08:20] <Goof> LjL,  Thanks
[08:20] <Sarkie> hi, guys I have a wireless card, and edgy has found it, allowed me to configure it, i enter my ssid, but using iwconfig it says my access point is invalid, since it cannot access the net, i cant use a wireless tool, which shhould make this easier for me i guess
[08:21] <hckrSid> Hansemann, google says it has a Broadcom BCM43xx ... I think you can use ndiswrapper for that.
[08:21] <stacy>  do i go with a self extracting file
[08:21] <ThinkingMan> minimec: OK, well, I'll try that, as much as I'd like to confirm the bug, I'd like to fix it as soon as possible too (it's just annoying)
[08:21] <minimec> ThinkingMan: But I guess it's a driver bug.
[08:21] <ThinkingMan> minimec: well just in case it isn't, I'll be back in a few
[08:22] <stacy> it has a linux rpm (self extracting and a linux (self extracting) so which one do i use
[08:22] <minimec> ThinkingMan: ok. I gonna have a cigarette ;)
[08:22] <Hansemann> i have tried that... but it does not work... i remember that i managed to install it before i formatted but i cant find the guide i followed
[08:22] <hckrSid> Hansemann, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[08:22] <wikijeff> When I make a change using synclient from a terminal, will it be saved after I restart, or do I have to put it in xorg.conf??
[08:22] <[bash] > if I install MAC OSX on my machine with ubuntu, how can I make ubuntu bootloader display MAC option
[08:23] <Goof> LjL,  and also, as you can see in the pic, the fonts is messed up!
[08:23] <Goof> any fix?
[08:23] <aragorn_elessar> hi at all!
[08:24] <Hansemann> i remember that i connected to my network with Network manager
[08:24] <Hansemann> but i dont remember how i installed the network card
[08:24] <hckrSid> Hansemann, the NetworkManager part comes after the network card is installed.
[08:24] <Goof> Hansemann, you need ndiswrapper or madwifi, depends on which one supports your wireless network card.
[08:25] <Hansemann> ok
[08:25] <meat`2> if network manager is listing networks, does that mean it's working?
[08:25] <TooTallJones> Who else is having this locale problem with the stable edgy?
[08:25] <meat`2> it won't let me connect to selected networks though. the activity light on my card doesn't blink
[08:25] <grogoreo> why is that the search bar, in firefox 2, has a variable width now? As when the window changes size so does the search
[08:26] <condar> need help with wine on ubuntu dapper drake keeps asking for ntoskrnl.exe
[08:26] <TooTallJones> The problem is with libc6 isn't it? with the locale errors
[08:26] <Hansemann> seems that it does not work with madwifi because it is for Atheros chipsets
[08:26] <stacy> which one do i use the rpm or regular self extracting
[08:26] <wd> i forgot how to save with nano...
[08:27] <jonah1980> here's the problem I've got: http://bugs.beryl-project.org/ticket/201
[08:27] <hckrSid> Hansemann, did you try ndiswrapper?
[08:27] <BHSPitLappy> I have a card, running via madwifi, and using network-manager to connect.  It's connected fine, but my signal strength is disturbingly low. Could it be that I'm just in 801.11b mode?
[08:27] <hckrSid> Hansemann, do you get any errors ther?
[08:27] <chapium> stacy, what are you talking about?
[08:27] <Hansemann> where?
[08:27] <stacy> java
[08:27] <gctaylor> With aptitude "GUI" what is correct method to NOT install recommends?
[08:28] <ClayG> nice, need something to test these 2 cores
[08:28] <ClayG> looks like there was a smp kernel update that was available in dapper
[08:28] <hckrSid> BHSPitLappy, I read about a bug in the madwifi driver that reported very low signal values.
[08:28] <Hansemann> ndiswrapper says that the card is installed but i cant find it in Network manager
[08:28] <loki505> can somebody help me out please
[08:28] <chapium> !ask
[08:28] <hckrSid> Hansemann, I mean errors while installing and configuring ndiswrapper.
[08:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:29] <stacy> what is edgy????
[08:29] <Sivik> stacy, its the ubuntu new release
[08:29] <Warbo> !edgy
[08:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[08:29] <Lattyware> I just updated from Dapper to Edgy, everything working perfectly.
[08:29] <hckrSid> Hansemann, ah... did you modprobe ndiswrapper?
[08:29] <Hansemann> yeah
[08:29] <loki505> i been having sum trouble transfering music tp my psp
[08:29] <ClayG> stacy, to answer that best i think i would say "not stable"
[08:29] <Lattyware> Only problem is Grub has 200 entries in it... But that's easily fixed.
[08:29] <Sivik> ClayG, i don't have a problem with it
[08:29] <Hansemann> i did not get any errors with configuring ndiswrapper
[08:29] <ClayG> or at the best "slow, and not as good as dapper"
[08:30] <atk_> Hi. How can I delete all backup (*~ and *.bak) files recursively?
[08:30] <ClayG> i do, but i would be it's as individual as you and I
[08:30] <^N^O^N^A^M^E^> Hi all
[08:30] <Sivik> ClayG, i don't understand why you think its slow, i haven't had any problems and i have been using edgy since knot 2
[08:30] <hckrSid> Hansemann, ok... so you don't see any wireless networks in networkmanager?
[08:30] <stacy> ok why not stable
[08:30] <Sivik> stacy, its fine
[08:30] <^N^O^N^A^M^E^> if sombody know how i can instal ubuntu without disc please lets write to me
[08:30] <chapium> loki, what program are you using, what errors or symptoms do you have
[08:31] <loki505> hey how come noone is answering my question
[08:31] <stacy> ok thanks
[08:31] <Sivik> ^N^O^N^A^M^E^, i don't know if its possible
[08:31] <chapium> loki505 ^^
[08:31] <Hansemann> when i right click i cant select wireless network. it only stands cable or somthing
[08:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> stacy, it depends on use
[08:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> edgy never crashes on me
[08:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> for some people certain apps do crash
[08:31] <loki505> I cant transfer my music to my psp
[08:31] <Sivik> i don't have a problem
[08:31] <rstanca> hello, can someone tell me in which package is located conio.h?
[08:31] <^N^O^N^A^M^E^> Sivik its possible but  i dont know how
[08:31] <basvg> wow, interesting poll results on the upgrade :)
[08:31] <Sivik> loki505, oh well, have you done research on the net to fix your probably before you came in
[08:32] <hckrSid> Hansemann, you may need to comment out the wireless network (wlan0) in /etc/network/interfaces to allow nm to manage it.
[08:32] <Sivik> ^N^O^N^A^M^E^, have you tried looking around on google
[08:32] <Telroth_Plushie|> Sivik, no, but ClayG seems to have it crash on him
[08:32] <loki505> yep sort of
[08:32] <Sivik> Telroth_Plushie|, yeah, it seems that way
[08:32] <ClayG> gimme one second, rolling a "cigarette"
[08:32] <Sivik> loki505, have you check any linux/ubuntu forums
[08:32] <ClayG> hands in use, ill tell you why i didnt like it in a moment
[08:32] <^N^O^N^A^M^E^> Sivik yes but i am from Bulgaria and i dont know english very well
[08:32] <loki505> no i go check right know
[08:32] <loki505> thanx
[08:32] <Hansemann> how do i do that?
[08:32] <stacy> ok im going to try to install now be back soon
[08:32] <chapium> loki505, you need to give more details, this room scrolls quickly making it hard to follow a long conversation
[08:32] <^N^O^N^A^M^E^> and i cant understand most information in google
[08:32] <xplic1t> rstanca, conio.h is part of the C library.  it's probably in the package, build-essentials
[08:33] <|WiRRE|> Can somone help me with removing php5 and install php4 on the LAMP server?
[08:33] <Sivik> have you tried apt-get remove php5?
[08:33] <|WiRRE|> and make it work after!
[08:33] <elriah> Got usb keys?  Awesome faq: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272588
[08:33] <|WiRRE|> jepp
[08:33] <elriah> I'm installing via wireless, no problem...
[08:33] <chapium> loki505, "x doesn't work" doesnt give us much to work with (esp since few of us have experience with the PSP)
[08:33] <|WiRRE|> tried thet.. apt-get remove php5
[08:33] <|WiRRE|> and then apt-get install php4
[08:33] <Juhaz> conio is NOT part of C library
[08:34] <NoobUbuntu>  Can somone please help, This is rediciluos.  I have been trying to install Ubuntu for a year now and cannoot get it to work with nvidia properly. Can someone please talk to me in private.
[08:34] <elriah> WiRRE: Why would you go back to PHP4?
[08:34] <hckrSid> Hansemann, 'sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces' will open the editor...
[08:34] <Sivik> NoobUbuntu, nvidia isn't that hard
[08:34] <Hansemann> ok
[08:34] <Sivik> NoobUbuntu, what kind of card
[08:34] <rstanca> xplicit build-essentials is installed but no conio.h
[08:34] <NoobUbuntu> Nvidia GO6600
[08:34] <|WiRRE|> elriah: problems withe gallary2
[08:34] <elriah> Sure you're not just missing gd?
[08:34] <xplic1t> rstanca, my bad, juhaz is right
[08:34] <NoobUbuntu> Sivik I need soemthing simple
[08:34] <hckrSid> Comment out lines corresponding to wlan0
[08:34] <|WiRRE|> i got gd with jpgeg gif & png
[08:34] <elriah> cool.
[08:34] <^N^O^N^A^M^E^> Sivik can i use  my drivers for the motherboard after instal ubuntu
[08:35] <elriah> bf2142 calling my nick, later peeps...
[08:35] <Sivik> NoobUbuntu, ok, all you should have to do is apt-get install nvidia-glx and then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and then go into /etx/X11/xorg.conf and change nv to nvidia and then restart X
[08:35] <Hansemann> do i comment out with setting a # in front?
[08:35] <Rouli> hi there
[08:35] <|WiRRE|> i didi compile php whit all that stuff from scratch on slackware...
[08:35] <hckrSid> Hansemann, yes.
[08:35] <Hansemann> ok
[08:35] <NoobUbuntu> Sivik All I need is to make it so that power management will work proeprly. Right now the fans are spining very fast. I am a noob to this.
[08:35] <rstanca> xplicit so where is it then, any ideas?
[08:36] <stacy> its not working at all im following the directions on the site and its not working so im giving up for now ill be back another time
[08:36] <Sivik> NoobUbuntu, i never knew that you could control how fast hte video card fans ran
[08:36] <Rouli> can anyone give ,e a quick hint for ubnuntu install?
[08:36] <NoobUbuntu> Sivik I will look into it in a moment, I did folllow the official guide on ubuntu site for nvidia, and ended up having my "X" not starting , So i am reinstalling Ubuntu again now
[08:36] <Sivik> NoobUbuntu, did you try searching around ubuntuforums.org for this problem
[08:37] <Sivik> NoobUbuntu, all you have to do, apt-get install nvidia-glx, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, and then change nv to nvidia in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:37] <Zta> The last script executing when I boot my FRESH ubuntu-6.10-server installation says: * Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)         And that's it.  It doesn't say [ ok ]   or  [fail]     Is that normal?
[08:37] <amit> how to create local repository ??
[08:37] <nardis_miles> This is my first time on an IRC. I'm wondering whether Debian and Ubuntu can share the same apt-cacher repository.
[08:37] <Juhaz> rstanca, it's a borland extension, DOS console functions. for linux, it's probably nowhere, what app requires it?
[08:37] <chapium> NoobUbuntu, X not starting is a common, but easy problem to fix
[08:37] <reiki> ok that's it, I'm done. I will remain on Dapper for the time being. I'm also not sure that messing with things like Beryl and/or XGL is worth it. Maybe I'm just not the eye-candy-kinda-guy
[08:38] <Zta> Also, I get my login prompt and /etc/issue written all over the screen while booting up, instead of after rc.local is executed.  Is that normal as well?
[08:38] <NoobUbuntu> Sivik on forums everyone mostly points to the official ubuntu installation of nvidia. But what happens if it scrwes up, I have no idea how to get things working again, in Ubuntu there is no safe mode like in Windows. I will do it now
[08:38] <chapium> NoobUbuntu: what is the error that x gives you?  Screens not found?
[08:38] <melon> i'm trying to figure out how to upload files to webspace (ftp) via terminal - i figure there's no quick answer - so could somebody point me in the direction of reading material that would help me accomplish this?
[08:38] <xplic1t> rstanca, libwine
[08:38] <rstanca> Juhaz, just a small C programm I wrote, but i found is, libwine will provide it, thank you all,
[08:38] <NoobUbuntu> chapium somehting like that, some error I forgto, i jsut reinstalled Ubuntu 6.10 all ove ragain and want to try again
[08:38] <chapium> NoobUbuntu: when X dies, it gives a log, look for (EE)'s to identify the problem
[08:39] <minimec> NoobUbuntu: The console is your friend and 'save mod' ;)
[08:39] <MrKeuner> hi, is there a way to use static IP with a wireless network card in nm-applet?
[08:39] <NoobUbuntu> chapium If i will have it agian I will tell you
[08:39] <chapium> NoobUbuntu: what nvidia card do you have?  6.10 worked fine for me.  I was able to use the add/remove programs dialogue to get 3d acceleraation too
[08:39] <ThinkingMan> minimec: good to see you again, you want good news or bad news?
[08:39] <Enigma939> buenas, ya he vuelto
[08:39] <reiki> melon, via terminal you would just use ftp. Or you can install gftp and have a gui for it
[08:39] <minimec> ThinkingMan: So you have both of them ...
[08:40] <alfredo> hello
[08:40] <Enigma939> Angelillo_ , qu empiezo a ahcerle ahora mismo desde 0?
[08:40] <alfredo> ///////////???????????????
[08:40] <epsilon[HU] > Do shell scripts work for you? (Dapper Drake basic install) Winecvs.sh, LIFLG game installer (a .run file) exit with "unexpected (" and other syntax errors but they worked in other distros.
[08:40] <ThinkingMan> OK, you want the not really that good news oor the really not that good news?
[08:40] <NoobUbuntu> Ok, I will attempt to install nvidia again, can someone please sit through with me on this. I really want to finally get it to work.
[08:40] <Juhaz> rstanca, winelib is pretty nasty, if it's your own program, consider porting it to ncurses for example...
[08:41] <minimec> ThinkingMan: hmm... When I think of it ... ;)
[08:41] <^Ocean^> Any one have problems getting VMware to run under Edgy ?
[08:41] <Xac> i'M looking for a guide to configure wlan with wpa encryption
[08:41] <NoobUbuntu> Anyone ?
[08:41] <ThinkingMan> well, the problem is pretty much repeatable
[08:41] <minimec> ThinkingMan: Your touchpad driver sucks :)
[08:41] <POVaddct> is there a multiverse repo for edgy?
[08:41] <Maggotino> Hello, can anybody help me, I think I messed up with Ati drivers :/
[08:41] <chapium> NoobUbuntu: i'm leaving soon
[08:41] <rstanca> Juhaz, no need for that, it`s just some small app for school :D
[08:41] <POVaddct> or is it a dapper only thing?
[08:41] <minimec> ThinkingMan: Was that the bad news?
[08:42] <destri> hello, I updated breezy to edgy and at the end of the installation I received an error saying something about gnome-desktop and dependencies (the system could be unstable, etc.). It works perfectly, but I got some strange icon placements (the time and the recycle bin), you can see it here: http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/4307/pantallazoco6.png
[08:42] <ThinkingMan> the other half is that as far as I can tell so far, the xorg log is identical before the login/out
[08:42] <NoobUbuntu> chapium is that the exact isntruction I should follow? "apt-get install nvidia-glx and
[08:42] <NoobUbuntu> then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and then go into /etx/X11/xorg.conf and change nv to nvidia and then restart X
[08:42] <NoobUbuntu> "
[08:42] <chapium> NoobUbuntu: are you able to get X working at all?
[08:42] <Discipulus> Ubuntu was picking up my mp3 player
[08:42] <Discipulus> but now it isn't
[08:42] <Discipulus> what's the problem?
[08:42] <chapium> NoobUbuntu: you really shouldnt need to do that with 6.10
[08:42] <NoobUbuntu> chapium forget about x. I reinstalled the whole thing again, and now starting a fresh new Ubuntu and nvidia install right now
[08:42] <aukef> has anyone been able to get xgl/compiz to work with a dual-screen setup?
[08:43] <NoobUbuntu> chapium Ubuntu is installed, all I need now is to isntall nvidia
[08:43] <NoobUbuntu> chapium please tel lme exactly what I need to do
[08:43] <frolle> I have to uninstall the new beta nvidia driver, but its not possible! How do i do?
[08:43] <epsilon[HU] > NoobUbuntu I also had problems with nvidia but is solved it... sorry but ehat is your problem?
[08:43] <minimec> ThinkingMan: Confirm the bug. They wil find it...
[08:44] <chapium> noobubuntu, go to applications -> add / remove
[08:44] <chapium> NoobUbuntu: in the search box type in glx
[08:44] <gleaken> how would I setup an application to respawn upon segfault?  Is that taken care of in xinetd?
[08:44] <ThinkingMan> minimec: seeing as how this is the first bug I've confirmed (or even submitted), how do I go about doing that properly
[08:44] <chapium> NoobUbuntu: Nvidia binary X.Org Driver should be what you are looking for
[08:44] <Hansemann> it did not help to comment out...
[08:44] <NoobUbuntu> epsilon[HU]  my problem is simple I am a brand new user to linux - all I want is to make it soa that nvidia card will work like in woindows, power managament, right now the fans are spinning very fast
[08:44] <chapium> NoobUbuntu: i havent completely tested it yet, but i think that works
[08:45] <destri> oh, it's solve now
[08:45] <NoobUbuntu> chapium ok, I am following your lead now
[08:45] <hckrSid> Hansemann, did you restart nm?
[08:45] <destri> *Solved
[08:45] <Hansemann> yes
[08:45] <epsilon[HU] > Uhh sorry but i dont know how to do that :( i can only install a simple nvidia driver :)
[08:45] <Pelo> hey guys,   do we know a drm remover in linux ?
[08:45] <aukef> pelo: userfriendly.org :-)
[08:46] <h3htimo> hey guys... how can i just remove the xorg-driver-fglrx without removing everything else like it wants to??
[08:46] <frolle> I have to uninstall the new beta nvidia driver, but its not possible! How do i do?
[08:46] <epsilon[HU] > But again: Do shell scripts work for you? (6.1 basic install) Winecvs.sh, LIFLG game installer (a .run file) exit with "unexpected (" and other syntax errors but they worked in other distros.
[08:46] <Pelo> thanks aukef
[08:46] <NoobUbuntu> epsilon[HU]  maybe simple nvidia driver isntall will automatically fox it
[08:46] <hckrSid> Hmmm... are you able to configure wireless networks through the network configuration?
[08:46] <Hansemann> yes
[08:46] <kitche> frolle: you have to shutdown X to remove a driver that you are using
[08:46] <epsilon[HU] > NoobUbuntu:  look at this wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia its a simple guide
[08:46] <Pelo> aukef,  I was thinking more for wmv files
[08:46] <minimec> ThinkingMan: Tell them what the problem is, maybe post the parts of the log file where the error occurs, explain how you restart gdm and ... that the touchpad works on the 2nd start. You may have to register launchpad.
[08:47] <hckrSid> Ok... so that means the system can see the card... only nm isn't managing it.
[08:47] <destri> There have been any critical updates since the release of edgy rc? When I run the update manager, nothing appears at all...
[08:47] <NoobUbuntu> chapium ok, nvidia-glx that one ?
[08:47] <ThinkingMan> minimec: OK no prob
[08:47] <Hansemann> think so
[08:47] <aukef> Pelo, yah, figured somthing like that -  I just saw it 2 mins ago and couldnt resist
[08:47] <chapium> NoobUbuntu: its titled NVidia binary X.Org driver
[08:47] <ThinkingMan> minimec: although I've actually detected something which may either cause the problem or be wholly unrelated but I'm going to poke at it first
[08:47] <hckrSid> What does /etc/network/interfaces contain?
[08:47] <aukef> sorry, don't know about drm-removing software
[08:47] <minimec> ThinkingMan: no prob
[08:47] <Daviey> !partman
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <NoobUbuntu> epsilon[HU]  after that guide my X did not work anymore
[08:47] <zool2005> evening all
[08:47] <minimec> ThinkingMan: do that.
[08:48] <busted> ubuntu is an african word for "i don't know how to configure bsd"
[08:48] <epsilon[HU] > NoobUbuntu: for mee to
[08:48] <epsilon[HU] > but i solved it and now its edited
[08:48] <Hansemann> YES!!! i got it to work!
[08:48] <destri> There have been any critical updates since the release of edgy rc? When I run the update manager, nothing appears at all...
[08:48] <busted> ubuntu is an african word for "i don't know how to configure bsd"
[08:48] <destri> don't know if it's broken
[08:48] <ThinkingMan> on the log file with the non-functioning scrolling there's an error with a wacom tablet which I don't even have installed, so I figure commenting out that section in my xorg.conf file can't hurt
[08:48] <Daviey> busted, bsd - blue screen of death
[08:48] <chapium> NoobUbuntu: i've got to run, good luck!
[08:48] <hckrSid> Hansemann,  :) ... so what was it?
[08:49] <kitche> Daviey: bsd is a higher *nix
[08:49] <Maggotino> Busted: No, ubuntu is an african word meaning "can't install debian".
[08:49] <busted> lolol
[08:49] <zool2005> I'm using the --exclude=... command with rsync but for some reason the contents is still being copied. Do I need a trailing / or a * ?
[08:49] <Daviey> kitche, naaa, it's blue screen of death
[08:49] <NoobUbuntu> epsi
[08:49] <destri> There have been any critical updates since the release of edgy rc? When I run the update manager, nothing appears at all...
[08:49] <destri> There have been any critical updates since the release of edgy rc? When I run the update manager, nothing appears at all...
[08:49] <NoobUbuntu> epsilon[HU]  can I tlak to you in private ?
[08:49] <epsilon[HU] > NoobUbuntu: the problem is: the nvidia-glx needs restricted kernel modules, and by default, it installs a i386 one when u selext nvidia-glx for install.
[08:49] <epsilon[HU] > but if you have a generic kernel (like I had) it won't work...
[08:49] <epsilon[HU] > SO ...
[08:49] <Hansemann> i tried to get in to the network manager but it hangd, and sudden i coud select my network in the network manager
[08:49] <frolle> How do i go from nvidia kernel module 1.0-9526 to 1.0-7174 ?
[08:49] <SlyGuy> is the Edgy Upgrade download process slow as hell for everyone?
[08:49] <minimec> ThinkingMan: ;) You remember I asked you, if you had some 'usb' devices plugged? # Comment aut all the wacom thing in xorg.conf ;)
[08:50] <epsilon[HU] > NoobUbuntu: you have to select a generic restricted kernel module first, THEN nvidia glx.
[08:50] <epsilon[HU] > I edited the wiki page according to this.
[08:50] <basvg> hmm, ff2.0 seems smooth enough on Dapper.. have we already figured out what's wrong with ff? or is it perhaps the combination of ff and edgy?
[08:50] <SlyGuy> 30k/s on a 10Mbit connection
[08:50] <ThinkingMan> minimec: aye aye sir!
[08:50] <aragorn_elessar> is it normal that the "disks" entry is absent in the System-->Administration menu of edgy ?
[08:50] <hckrSid> Hansemann, cool. :)
[08:50] <Pelo> SlyGuy,  very slow,  and unreliable, you are better off,  dwonloading a live cd and backing up your  data, and installing from scratch
[08:50] <epsilon[HU] > NoobUbuntu: it doesnt let PM :(
[08:50] <Daviey> SlyGuy, i maxed my conection day before yesterday upgrading to edgy
[08:50] <[ATM] Nightshift> No it isnt.
[08:50] <aukef> okey. so i got my dual-screen setup working with acceleration using fglrx.  has anyone been able to get compiz and Xgl to work with a dual-head setup?
[08:50] <[ATM] Nightshift> u can add it via the menuconfig
[08:51] <NoobUbuntu> epsilon[HU]  Can I please walk through this with you ?
[08:51] <SlyGuy> Pelo, it's already started
[08:51] <[ATM] Nightshift> accessoires > alacarte
[08:51] <SlyGuy> i wouldn't know what to backup... pretty recent linux convert
[08:51] <NoobUbuntu> epsilon[HU]  please tell me what to do step by step
[08:51] <epsilon[HU] > NoobUbuntu: ofc but it doesnt let PM
[08:51] <Maggotino> can anybody help me with ATI drivers?
[08:51] <Pelo> SlyGuy,  your home dir
[08:51] <Marsmensch> !nvidida
[08:51] <epsilon[HU] > NoobUbuntu: do you have MSN? LOL :D
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <gnuyen> w/ upstart do i still do /etc/init.d/mythbackend restart?
[08:51] <gnuyen> or is there another way now
[08:52] <basvg> NoobUbuntu: best is to read the wiki page and then follow the steps there one by one.... print the page if you're afraid you'll lose it during a boot
[08:52] <Marsmensch> !pastebin
[08:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:52] <SlyGuy> Pelo, home dir would be good enough?
[08:52] <NoobUbuntu> epsilon[HU]  skype, let me see another solution, hold on
[08:52] <epsilon[HU] > NoobUbuntu: okok im "gombosg89"
[08:52] <Daviey> SlyGuy, if you want your settings you will want /etc/ aswell
[08:52] <Pelo> SlyGuy,  you are unlikely to save any config stuff you've done,  backuping your home/user/ dir will at least save you data
[08:52] <NoobUbuntu> epsilon[HU]  is that for msn or skype ?
[08:52] <ThinkingMan> minimec: now for yet another reboot, let's hope for better luck this time
[08:53] <regionalp> how do I downgrade from edgy to dapper?
[08:53] <nardis_miles> Maggotino: Was this on an install?
[08:53] <epsilon[HU] > NoobUbuntu: its skype
[08:53] <SlyGuy> when i first installed dapper I had trouble getting proper res working on my laptop screen
[08:53] <Mirro> hey, where can i find a prog to split my HDD?
[08:53] <boxemall> hi folks i just got myself a new machine
[08:53] <boxemall>  i got the problem that my asus p5b is not supported by kernel lower than 2.6.18
[08:53] <regionalp> how do I downgrade from edgy to dapper?
[08:54] <Pelo> SlyGuy,  you can save your xorg.conf file as well but this is just a question of saveing various files you may have manualy edited to copy the info later
[08:54] <epsilon[HU] > regionalp: why downgrade? :P
[08:54] <Daviey> regionalp, seems you can't unless you reinstall from scratch
[08:54] <Pelo> epsilon[HU] ,  ???? have you tried  edgy ?&
[08:54] <destri> There have been any critical updates since the release of edgy rc? When I run the update manager, nothing appears at all...
[08:54] <aragorn_elessar> [ATM] Nightshift:  the entry is not present in alacarte...that's the problem ;)
[08:54] <Daviey> epsilon[HU] , I'd like to as edgy doesn;t seem as good as dapper.  The repositories are better on dapper
[08:55] <epsilon[HU] > every1: i have edgy its the newest and im NOOB :D
[08:55] <Pelo> epsilon[HU] ,  let's just say several ppl think it wasn'T worth all the trouble of upgrading
[08:56] <epsilon[HU] > ofc but i installed it 2 days ago :)
[08:56] <DarkFlib> doesn't seem to be much difference if you don't want wobbly windows for what I've seen so far
[08:57] <Prince> I wish ubuntu would auto configure if it finds 2 or more network cards that are connected to the internet and configrue itself for loadbalancing
[08:57] <Prince> sighs
[08:57] <SlyGuy_> damn router
[08:57] <Daviey> upgrade has broken two of my apps
[08:57] <LuisMendes> how can I send a file via bluetooth, using command line?
[08:57] <DarkFlib> Prince: but not everyone wnats that...
[08:57] <SlyGuy_> how can i find the size of my home dir?
[08:57] <KGnome> how do i us a second monitor
[08:57] <Pelo> epsilon[HU] ,  dapper got me hooked on linux,  I don'T know if edgy would have done the same
[08:57] <epsilon[HU] > okokk
[08:57] <variant> SlyGuy_: df --si /home/
[08:57] <epsilon[HU] > the only thing that doesnt work is the shell script
[08:57] <destri> that's a help channel?
[08:57] <Prince> edgy is edgy = experimental
[08:57] <Pelo> SlyGuy,  rightlick on the home folder icon > properties
[08:58] <Prince> dapper = stable server release
[08:58] <smartbei_> does anyone know where I can find a driver for an integrated graphics card?
[08:58] <epsilon[HU] > really? :O
[08:58] <KGnome> how do i use a second monitor
[08:58] <Pelo> Prince,  edgy is the latest stable
[08:58] <variant> the blubuntu theme is awsome, that should be the default instead of that dumb brown
[08:58] <SlyGuy_> 1.1gb
[08:58] <aum> (sorry if this has been asked 2**n times) - what's the current situation with Dapper -> Edgy upgrade problems?
[08:58] <Prince> pelo edgy is stable but = all the experimental were stuff were put in this release
[08:58] <epsilon[HU] > we're talking about that :D
[08:58] <Prince> dapper is LTS
[08:58] <fredsa> upgrade aborted. No eft for me :(
[08:58] <SlyGuy_> so i guess i can just burn my entire home dir to dvd
[08:58] <Prince> edgy is not
[08:59] <variant> SlyGuy_: yup
[08:59] <smartbei__> test
[08:59] <aum> should i backup my Dapper data, then clean-install edgy?
[08:59] <DarkFlib> aum: basicly there may be issues, but if you hang in the channels you will think that everyone is having issues since you only see the complaints
[08:59] <destri> the upgrade to edgy simply sucks hard
[08:59] <variant> aum: if backing up is an option for you, that is the best way to do it
[08:59] <SlyGuy_> i just need to find where my vmware images are stored
[08:59] <epsilon[HU] > is upgrade that hard? isnt it just a package upgrade? sorry im noob :)
[08:59] <variant> destri: i did it, worked perfectly well here
[08:59] <Latty> I take it EasyUbuntu is down?
[08:59] <variant> epsilon[HU] : precicely
[08:59] <Prince> theres been a bunch of upgrade issues
[09:00] <variant> Prince: not for everyone
[09:00] <destri> variant: here worked too, but not before giving a super-error message
[09:00] <aum> i learned the hard way to put nearly all my data (100+GB) into my home dir
[09:00] <Latty> Personally, I managed to upgrade perfectly.
[09:00] <epsilon[HU] > aum: OOH
[09:00] <Daviey> epsilon[HU] , shell script could be because bash is no longer default console.  Try running the shell script with "bash ./script.sh"
[09:00] <Prince> variant: I know I haven't figured out if the issues are user-error
[09:00] <TooTallJones> you should just make an extra partition to back things up on and clean install it on your main partition
[09:00] <DarkFlib> upgrade worked fine here too... but then I was upgrading a virtual machine...
[09:00] <fredsa> destri: was that error message something like, upgrade failed. Rolling back. Please file a bug report?
[09:00] <destri> and now i don't know if the update manager is broken
[09:00] <Hansemann> hi, HckrSid. i am running Ubuntu with wireless network now! :)
[09:00] <epsilon[HU] > Daviey: ty. (it gave syntax errors before)
[09:00] <Goof> I've messed around with all the panels, and how do i restore all back?
[09:00] <DarkFlib> although, the fc6 upgrade went badly wrong
[09:01] <aum> maybe i should, next time i reinstall, stick with universe unstable and update every 1-3 days
[09:01] <destri> fredsa: yes, something similar, but related to dependencies of gnome-desktop
[09:01] <minimec> fredsa: You used the wizard?
[09:01] <Prince> Well its time for me to upgrade
[09:01] <KGnome> how can i use a second monitor in ubuntu
[09:01] <Prince> remotely :)
[09:01] <fredsa> minimec, yeah
[09:01] <Mirro> ---- which program does partitioning??
[09:01] <avenger__> private
[09:01] <Daviey> epsilon[HU] , yeah, the default is dash!!! don't knoww hy.  is it working now?
[09:01] <hckrSid> Hansemann, thats great! :)
[09:01] <bobbyd> hi
[09:01] <Prince> this is gonna be fun
[09:01] <Latty> Anyone know why the EasyUbuntu site appears to be down?
[09:01] <bobbyd> Prince: if you have courier installed, think very carefully...
[09:01] <SlyGuy_> damn backing up my VMWare images is going to be a problem
[09:01] <Prince> bobbyd: ?
[09:02] <Daviey> Latty, maybe after everybody upgrading - people are hammering it?
[09:02] <Prince> courier?
[09:02] <destri> how can I check the updates, bug fixes, etc. using the console?
[09:02] <Maggotino> Why Can't I do cd /home/guille/desktop?
[09:02] <Latty> Daviey: Nah, it was down before the release of Edgy.
[09:02] <epsilon[HU] > Daviey: sorry i need to restartill be back in some time (in linux) maybe simply as "epsilon" its easier to write down :)
[09:02] <minimec> fredsa: There should be a log file. At what step did the upgrade stop?
[09:02] <aum> SlyGuy, nobody in their right mind actively uses more than 50% of their available disk capacity
[09:02] <ThinkingMan> minimec: well, bad news/bad news
[09:02] <SlyGuy_> aum?
[09:02] <Pelo> Maggotino,   it's  Desktop , not desktop
[09:02] <Latty> aum: I'm using about 75% of my 450GB.
[09:02] <yoyo> bye all men , fuck my games !!!
[09:02] <DarkFlib> aum: I must be out of my right mind then
[09:02] <destri> how can I check the updates, bug fixes, etc. using the console?
[09:02] <SlyGuy_> i am on a laptop with 60gb hd
[09:02] <DarkFlib> 1.2Tb used out of 1.6Tb
[09:02] <aum> the other option is to spend hours as a DVD-jockey
[09:03] <minimec> ThinkingMan: your driver sucks...
[09:03] <SlyGuy_> my xp image is 20GB
[09:03] <ThinkingMan> minimec: apparently
[09:03] <Latty> DarkFlib: Nice. I need more space. I really need a PC with SATA, in fact.
[09:03] <Pelo> desti,  sudo apt-get update  I think , or something similar
[09:03] <minimec> ThinkingMan: wait a moment ...
[09:03] <SlyGuy_> the point is if i wipe dapper to install edgy
[09:03] <reiki> does the 6.10 alternate i386 ido image support both cores in a dual core machine?
[09:03] <SlyGuy_> i either need to create a partition and move stuff there
[09:03] <SlyGuy_> or back stuff up
[09:03] <|niklas|> which packages are minimun for compileing a kernel from kernel.org?
[09:03] <TooTallJones> Anyone else delt with the locale problems using python programs?  Something about libc6
[09:03] <ThinkingMan> minimec: ok...
[09:03] <reiki> s/iso/ido
[09:03] <KGnome> when i boot my xubuntu, everything shows up until the login screen, then it goes black - any suggestions
[09:03] <fredsa> minimec, right near the end. The last error msg is '2006-10-29 19:56:22,179 ERROR SystemError from cache.commit(): installArchives()
[09:03] <fredsa>  failed'
[09:04] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell |niklas| about kernel
[09:04] <ianmacgregor> destri: sudo apt-get upgrade will check for updates. sudo apt-get update will update your sources.list file
[09:04] <Hansemann> XGL+Compiz is cool
[09:04] <destri> thanks!
[09:04] <aum> SlyGuy, you could always boot off an edgy live cd, mount your hdd, and move all your root dirs into /backup, then install edgy, then move stuff from /backup to your edgy tree
[09:04] <Pelo> later
[09:05] <SlyGuy_> hmm i think i'll kill this upgrade and wait for the Edgy dust to clear
[09:05] <fredsa> minimex, that was in /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log
[09:05] <LjL> SlyGuy_: if you Dapper is working well, there's definitely no rush
[09:05] <SlyGuy_> i don't really know I will gain anything with Edgy
[09:05] <SlyGuy_> i just want to be in the cool crowds
[09:05] <LjL> SlyGuy_: well, then i hate to talk by common places, but if it ain't broke...
[09:05] <SlyGuy_> crowd
[09:06] <vidd> The only think i gained was headaches and a broke wireless connection
[09:06] <boss> hi
[09:06] <DarkFlib> you can be cool on a 386dx/40 if you know what you are doing
[09:06] <ThinkingMan> minimec: I had commented out everything to do with all the wacom crap, I had also commented out a SECOND call of "Input Device     "Synaptics Touchpad" in the Section "ServerLayout"
[09:06] <Hansemann> is it possible to do so it is a picture or somthing like that in XGL/Compiz ?
[09:06] <Prince> lmao
[09:06] <ripok> Hello, I'm trying to compile puppy (topfield) but make nags about missing usb.h header. I have installed libusb-dev package.
[09:06] <SlyGuy_> i wuold be happy if i could get xgl/compiz working
[09:06] <slinky_> Using Archive Manager in Dapper Drake is there any way to do a full backup of filesystem without having to specify each directory
[09:06] <ThinkingMan> I'm wondering if I should uncomment the second call
[09:06] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Hansemann about xgl
[09:06] <zool2005> why does rsync......--exclude/home/"username"/.cedega not exclude the files contained within it?
[09:06] <felipe__> Hello people. Could anyone tell me where is the Linux -2.6.x-686-smp kernel so I can install it instead of the generic kernel that comes with edgy. I can't find it on Adept Manager.
[09:07] <Prince> ubotu, please tell KarlosII about upgrading from dapper to edgy
[09:07] <fredsa> oh well, gonna reboot and hope that I can get back :p
[09:07] <Prince> err
[09:07] <SlyGuy_> everytime i try and get xgl/compiz running i get no window decorations
[09:07] <minimec> ThinkingMan: Your driver sucks. I checked my xorg.0.log. my driver is loading without problem with the same 'wacom error messages'.
[09:07] <Prince>  ubotu, please tell Prince about upgrading from dapper to edgy
 oh well, gonna reboot and hope that I can get back :p
[09:07] <Daviey> zool2005, do you need a "/" on the end or /*.*?
[09:07] <ThinkingMan> minimec: so is there a way for me to load a different driver?
[09:07] <LjL> SlyGuy_: in the topic of #ubuntu-xgl you can find some pointers, as well as people using it
[09:07] <SlyGuy_> thanks LjL
[09:08] <minimec> ThinkingMan: You have another synaptics touchpad model.
[09:08] <Shadowpillar> I see people having assloads of problems
[09:08] <Hansemann> i mean: is it possible to do so it is a picture or somthing like that at the top of the "Cube" in XGL/Compiz ?
[09:08] <ThinkingMan> minimec: awesome, so I'm SOL till the fix the driver?
[09:08] <jamesgecko> As I was saying before the university network disconnected me, the Edgy upgrade killed my ATi fireglrx drivers. Is there some obvious fix for this?
[09:08] <zool2005> Daviey: I'm not sure, I'll give it a go
[09:08] <minimec> ThinkingMan: I guess the problem is related with your model...
[09:08] <LjL> Hansemann, they'll probably know that in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:08] <micoo> how do i change the main lang in xubuntu? i chose hebrew in the installation and now i want it in eng cause the translation is really bad
[09:08] <Hansemann> ok
[09:08] <Pntkl> yo
[09:08] <Pntkl> don't know
[09:08] <destri> when doing sudo apt-get upgrade I get an error: Configurando gnome-app-install (0.2.21) ... Traceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/sbin/update-app-install", line 12, in <module>    import xdg.DesktopEntry ImportError: No module named xdg.DesktopEntry dpkg: error al procesar gnome-app-install (--configure): el subproceso post-installation script devolvi el cdigo de salida de error 1 dpkg: problemas de dependencias impiden la configuraci
[09:08] <destri> n de ubuntu-desktop: ubuntu-desktop depende de gnome-app-install; sin embargo:  Package gnome-app-install is not configured yet. dpkg: error al procesar ubuntu-desktop (--configure): problemas de dependencias - se deja sin configurar
[09:08] <minimec> ThinkingMan: You can help them by posting the bug.
[09:09] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell destri about paste
[09:09] <hckrSid> !paste
[09:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:09] <Mirro> can i split a ntfs-partition with gparted??
[09:09] <LjL> micoo: in plain Ubuntu, there is (i think, i use KDE) System / Administration / Language support -- perhaps there's something similar in the Xubuntu control panel... anyway, i think most programs have a "Help / Translate this app" menu, why not contribute to making the translations better? ;-)
[09:10] <corevette> can someone help me configure my wireless connection?
[09:10] <Maggotino> I'm installing ATI drivers, and It asks me to do sudo module-assistant prepare sudo module-assistant update sudo module-assistant build fglrx sudo module-assistant install fglrx sudo depmod -a but it says that module-assistant comand is not found...
[09:10] <micoo> well i will
[09:10] <micoo> thing is
[09:10] <Kuprin> Hey all: is it just me, or did Edgy really kill itself speed-wise?
[09:10] <corevette> micoo: you'll help me?
[09:10] <destri> when doing sudo apt-get updgrade i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29195/
[09:10] <micoo> i need help with errors lots of time and only israeli guys know hebrew
[09:10] <micoo> that a prob
[09:10] <corevette> nvm
[09:10] <minimec> ThinkingMan: If you post the bug, add ypur Laptop Model ;)
[09:10] <philwhln> I have a usb digital tv tuner I use in windows. is there a way to get it working in ubuntu?
[09:11] <micoo> corevette
[09:11] <micoo> with what?
[09:11] <LjL> micoo: yup... i admit i use the english version myself.
[09:11] <ThinkingMan> minimec: no prob
 http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[09:11] <SlyGuy_> hmm how stable are the nVidia beta drivers?
[09:11] <corevette> micoo my wireless connection
[09:11] <crabezoid> problem with reinstalling windows on a dual-boot system  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29196/
[09:11] <ThinkingMan> well, i guess I'm off to post a bug and then log out and in for no particular reason
[09:11] <micoo> i can try
[09:11] <corevette> micoo it's being detected but i don't know how to connect
[09:12] <TooTallJones> I get this "Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.       Using the fallback 'C' locale." when opening gaim, cedega, or any other python program.  I just put on a clean install of edgy xubuntu
[09:12] <[H] 3b0R> SlyGuy_: they are very stable for but ive exp. some graphical corruption in Truecombat: Elite
[09:12] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell crabezoid about grub
[09:12] <hckrSid> corevette, how are you trying to connect?
[09:12] <slinky_> is there a SIMPLE way to do a full backup of filesystem using Dapper Drake that will simple copy everything to an archive/cd
[09:12] <micoo> LjL where are youfrom?
[09:12] <ThinkingMan> thanks minimec, I'll let you know if I find any solution
[09:12] <crabezoid> thanks LjL
[09:12] <destri> when doing sudo apt-get updgrade i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29195/
[09:13] <corevette> hckrsid wireless
[09:13] <felipe__> why isn't a linux 2.6.x 686 smp image in the repos?????
[09:13] <sharperguy> is it possible to boot from an iso without burning it?
[09:13] <hckrSid> corevette, are you using NetworkManager?
[09:13] <SlyGuy_> [H] 3b0R: whats the easiest way to upgrade to the nVidia beta drivers?
[09:13] <Kuprin> sharperguy: Not that I know of. You can boot a virtual machine from an iso file...
[09:13] <corevette> hckrsid no
[09:13] <sharperguy> !bootiso
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootiso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <Shadowpillar> so question
[09:13] <LjL> micoo: italy. the translations aren't *that* bad, though they're quite funny sometimes... but i just prefer to have the system in a consistent language (since many programs in Universe are untranslated), and english terms in computing are more estabilished
[09:13] <Shadowpillar> what's with this UUID change thing?
[09:13] <sharperguy> you cant use grub to do it?
[09:14] <sharperguy> I need to reinstall edgy from cd instead of update, but i dont have a cd
[09:14] <micoo> yea that the exact reason why i need my xubuntu in eng
[09:14] <St_MPA3b> how can i save my console alias? They reset or PC reset
[09:14] <St_MPA3b> how can i save my console alias? They reset or PC reset
[09:14] <izm99> hey all.  used update-manager to upgrade my notebook from dapper to edgy, but there was some sort of package configuration error, and it didn't really finish configuring them all (which is a lot).  Now X won't start.  I get "module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1)" with "nv" driver and "nvidia" driver freezes with no xorg log.  ideas?
[09:14] <St_MPA3b> !alias
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <hckrSid> corevette, hmmm... did you try network configuration (under System / Administration) ?
[09:15] <destri> when doing sudo apt-get updgrade i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29195/
[09:15] <hckrSid> izm99, I got the same error...
[09:15] <kjm> upgraded to edgy - sound in firefox no longer works - anyone know fix?
[09:15] <LjL> St_MPA3b: don't repeat please -- putting your aliases in your ~/.bashrc file should work
[09:15] <izm99> hckrSid, did you get around it yet?
[09:15] <hckrSid> izm99, I reinstalled the driver (I have ATI though).
[09:15] <corevette> hckrsid no how do i do that
[09:15] <SirYes> Hello and good evening everybody.
[09:16] <St_MPA3b> LjL: 
[09:16] <nans> hi
[09:16] <St_MPA3b> LjL: ty*
[09:16] <Kuprin> kjm: this may also be a firefox2 bug
[09:16] <IndyBC> Frostwire can't run due to a problem. It says in line 44 in runFrost.sh that it expects { but it finds (
[09:16] <izm99> hckrSid, Yah, I tried reinstalling the "nvidia" driver...   how would I reinstall "nv" driver?
[09:16] <SirYes> I'm seeking some advice on Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) installer.
[09:16] <epsilon_> noobubuntu are you here?
[09:16] <nans> can someone tell me how can i use my windows disc on ubuntu?
[09:16] <Kuprin> SirYes: just ask
[09:16] <epsilon_> SirYes sir?
[09:16] <hckrSid> izm99, I think they've changed the name of the driver packages.
[09:16] <IndyBC> Is it a known issue?
[09:16] <slinky_> LjL: Hello, do you know if Archive Manager can be used to do a full backup of all files in filesystem, including those with passwords?
[09:16] <kjm> Kuprin - fine, it may.  Has anyone encountered this after upgrade?  and, if so - is there a workaround I could try....?
[09:16] <ZirJoker> is there any sega emulator for ubuntu????
[09:16] <slop|lap> question: how do i find out what my domain is?
[09:17] <SirYes> I seem to have trouble installing the system using _existing_ partition layout.
[09:17] <nashnash> hi ppl what was that scanning prog of ubuntu? kakoo ?
[09:17] <morphish> nice, ndiswrapper just refuses to insert into the running kernel and i see no ndiswrapper-source(s) to apt-get install to just build it for the running kernel :/
[09:17] <nashnash> kakkoo maybe ;[] 
[09:17] <slop|lap> ZirJoker, yes there is, you can search for it using synaptic
[09:17] <Kuprin> ZirJoker: Genesis? Yes, there are a few. www.zophar.net
[09:17] <ZirJoker> :O
[09:17] <ZirJoker> thx
[09:17] <Kuprin> ZirJoker: or in the repos, apparently ;)
[09:17] <micoo> LjL: i dont think changing the lang in the language support will change the menus and everything
[09:17] <SirYes> gparted insists on creating a partition for / - root fs.
[09:17] <morphish> kooka works for me in kde for scanning nashnash
[09:17] <nashnash> kooka ok
[09:17] <nashnash> thx alot m8
[09:17] <izm99> hckrSid, ah:  xserver-xorg-driver-nv - X.Org X server -- NV display driver
[09:17] <izm99> hckrSid, I'll try that.
[09:17] <micoo> nashnash you little shekel fag
[09:17] <micoo> =)
[09:17] <hckrSid> izm99, I think I did an apt-get remove xorg-driver-nvidia, and then and apt-get install...
[09:17] <epsilon_> SirYes i dont see :(
[09:18] <SirYes> I am able to select "/" from the combo box, but it's not enough.
[09:18] <nashnash> lol micoo
[09:18] <hckrSid> izm99, ah yes... good luck. :)
[09:18] <Kuprin> Speaking of emulators, when I upgraded to edgy, the speed on VBA took a shit. I had no trouble running anything before, I can't even get up to 50% now, and it makes no sense given my system specs. What's up?
[09:18] <izm99> hckrSid, thx.  will likely report back shortly.  :)
[09:18] <Maggotino> I'm installing ATI drivers, and the guide tells me to sudo module-assistant prepare sudo module-assistant update sudo module-assistant build fglrx sudo module-assistant install fglrx sudo depmod -a but it says that the module assistant command does not exist -.-
[09:18] <crabezoid> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29196/ I tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  but
[09:19] <nans> people, can anione help me?
[09:19] <SirYes> epsilon_: I was able to overcome this by removing last partition and recreating it - then it was okay. This occured to me on two different machines.
[09:19] <DigitalNinja> Can someone recommend a good mico atx motherboard. I've got a EPoX 6100 but I think I may be having problems with it.
[09:19] <crabezoid> could not find kernel image: rescue
[09:19] <corevette> hckrsid how do you use network configuration?
[09:19] <hckrSid> corevette, did you find the network config tool under Administration?
[09:19] <corevette> hckrsid networking tools?
[09:20] <SirYes> epsilon_: Is this a known issue? Or is it specific to Edgy installer?
[09:20] <cyberg0d> guys, how does the cube feature program called?
[09:20] <overridex> note to anyone who cares: the "trillian" gaim smiley theme has some issues in gaim 2.0... i narrowed it down to the theme text file being in dos format instead of unix, if you convert it, it fixes the issues :)
[09:20] <KGnome>  how do i configure screen resolutions from a console???
[09:20] <hckrSid> corevette, no.. I think its "Network"
[09:20] <epsilon_> SirYes: i dont know :( i used norton partition magic for partitioning :(
[09:20] <corevette> hckrsid networking?
[09:20] <SirYes> KGnome: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:21] <KGnome> SirYes: for resolution???
[09:21] <anborn> where can I find a list of mirror for apt-get?
[09:21] <hckrSid> corevette, (sorry I'm not on my ubuntu system right now... so I can't check)... but "Networking" sounds right.
[09:21] <Phaqui> Can anyone tell me why I am not hearing sound at all in ubuntu? (Just did a fresh install of ubuntu 6.10)
[09:21] <apokryphos> !sound
[09:21] <corevette> hckrsid what should i put for the Network aName (ESSID)
[09:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:21] <Daviey> Phaqui, are the speakers turne don ;)
[09:21] <cyberg0d> !xgl
[09:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:21] <cyberg0d> :)
[09:21] <LjL> anborn: i don't know, but most mirrors are "XX.archive.ubuntu.com", with XX being the abbreviation of a country. us, ca, fr, es, it, de, ....
[09:21] <SirYes> KGnome: at least you can select what resolutions the X server should use and which shouldn't. Is this what you're looking for?
[09:22] <Phaqui> they're perfectly turned on, thank you ;)
[09:22] <alecjw> Phaqui: did you ever have sound?
[09:22] <hckrSid> corevette, the name of your wireless network
[09:22] <anborn> well, right now I'm using it.xxxx
[09:22] <Phaqui> I used to have sound
[09:22] <anborn> but it's not working...
[09:22] <Phaqui> ubuntu 6.06 that was
[09:22] <riddlebox> anyone else having problems with nvidia drivers + ubuntu?
[09:22] <micoo> corevette
[09:22] <micoo> write
[09:22] <ZirJoker> hey can i have the emulators link plz? XDDD i didnt write it down u.u
[09:22] <ianmacgregor> Installed wine on Edgy. Running winecfg freezes the entrie system. Does this happen with winecfg in Dapper?
[09:22] <micoo> iwlist wlan0 scanning
[09:22] <corevette> micoo yes?
[09:22] <LjL> anborn: it was a bit taken by traffic in the last few days, don't know if it has recovered yet. try "se"
[09:22] <IndyBC> Frostwire can't run due to a problem. It says in line 44 in runFrost.sh that it expects { but it finds (. Is it a known issue?
[09:22] <izm99> riddlebox, such a general question.  i am.
[09:22] <micoo> write the output in pm
[09:22] <alecjw> Phaqui: go to System>>Preferences>>Sound and select different things form the lists and press test
[09:22] <^Ocean^> is there a program that will set my computer time to the internet ?
[09:22] <KGnome> SirYes: yes. Im actualy using xubuntu on a 33mgz pentium
[09:23] <SirYes> epsilon_: Heh, my partitions were already created fine with fdisk. However, somehow it didn't want to reuse them. :(
[09:23] <morphish> what do i need in sources.list to get ndiswrapper-source and module-assistant to show with apt-cache or installable with apt-get? i found a link to allow downloading the .deb but it does not find them with apt-cache search !?
[09:23] <riddlebox> izm99, the nvidia drivers are locking up my system shortly after I boot
[09:23] <ZirJoker> hey can i have the emulators link again plz? XDDD i didnt write it down u.u
[09:23] <LjL> ^Ocean^: you should have an option for that in your Time preferences (or right click on the clock)
[09:23] <kjm> ^Ocean^ - in the time preferences - select sync clock to NTS
[09:23] <cyberg0d> guys, how does the cube feature program called?
[09:23] <khermans_> i am using network-manager-gnome and bcm43xx.  i can list the available wireless networks in network-manager, but it fails to connect everytime to an open AP
[09:23] <crabezoid> I'm having problems with GRUB after reinstalling windows, i tried typing "rescue" at the boot prompt of the Ubuntu CD, but recieved this error: Could not find kernel image : rescue"
[09:23] <corevette> micoo write which output
[09:23] <[fields] > Should I be concerned about virus and malware/spyware protection when running Ubuntu?
[09:23] <morphish> khermans_: would you happen to have a bcm4318?
[09:23] <izm99> riddlebox, have you followed configuration instructions in the nvidia readme and probably on the ubuntu forum and wiki?
[09:23] <khermans_> morphish, bcm4306
[09:23] <SirYes> KGnome: IIRC you can select the driver AND the resolutions using this dpkg-reconfigure invocation.
[09:23] <kjm> [fields]  - no
[09:24] <kitche> [fields]  no linux in general is safe there is some things but if you don't open your ports to the outside your safe
[09:24] <hckrSid> corevette, 'iwlist wlan0 scanning' should list the wireless networks around you.
[09:24] <micoo> yea
[09:24] <morphish> khermans_: not sure it affect you too, try setting your rate to 11M instead f auto, the driver had/has issues but works with 11M
[09:24] <izm99> riddlebox, you have to remove "load dri" and "load gl<something>" and add "load glx" ... that stuff?  in xorg.conf?
[09:24] <aterphasma> why is the battery status icon changing when I unplug and replug my power cable?
[09:24] <KGnome> SirYes: howdo i find my cards bus idetifier
[09:24] <^Ocean^> okay, i clicked the sycronize now button and my computer thinks its monday oct 30th at 11:24am :S
[09:24] <micoo> then you should choose from the listed networks the one you wanna use
[09:24] <riddlebox> izm99, I did do that
[09:24] <pppoe_dude> how can I install ubuntu from my harddisk (e.g. can I copy the contents of the CD to a partition?)
[09:24] <khermans_> morphish, yeah but how do i do that with network-manager ?
[09:24] <hckrSid> corevette, put the name of your wireless network as the ESSID.
[09:25] <micoo> this one you should write as essid
[09:25] <morphish> khermans_: i have no idea how to use that tool, sorry
[09:25] <SirYes> KGnome: why do you need it? I never used that and all worked... What's your real trouble?
[09:25] <izm99> riddlebox, is this just w/edgy or when did problem start?
[09:25] <corevette> hckrsid 'wlan0 interface doesn't support scanning.'
[09:25] <kjm> ^Ocean^ - do you have NTP server support installed?  Click on the "keep clock synchronized with internet servers..." - if you need ntp support installed - it'll do it for you.
[09:25] <pecisk> aterphasma: because it detects that you have changed power source
[09:25] <Daviey> The partitioner of dapper installer has taken nearly two hours!! is this okay?  (In console: top - partman is using 4% processor, which is the processor with most use.  And current load is 2.60).  Any ideas?
[09:25] <hckrSid> corevette, I feared as much...
[09:25] <riddlebox> izm99, the problem started in dapper so I upgraded to edgy hoping that would do it, but in edgy the same thing happened
[09:26] <micoo> hmm
[09:26] <KGnome> SirYes: it says to enter my bus identifier, and for some reason it says im using a PowerPC
[09:26] <hckrSid> corevette, do you know the name of the wireless network you want to connect to?
[09:26] <micoo> corevette
[09:26] <corevette> hckrsid yes
[09:26] <corevette> micoo yes?
[09:26] <izm99> riddlebox, does it happen every time?
[09:26] <SirYes> O.o
[09:26] <^Ocean^> kjm: yeah that was no problem, but it still dont change my date/time to anything near now lol
[09:26] <hckrSid> corevette, put that name as the ESSID.
[09:26] <aterphasma> sorry, i meant why is it NOT changing
[09:26] <aterphasma> i knwo it should be
[09:26] <corevette> hckrsid i did
[09:26] <pecisk> aterphasma: just check tooltip message over icon
[09:27] <riddlebox> izm99, yes like withing 5-10 minutes of booting
[09:27] <keifer> Would anyone have a guess as to why Edgy/Dapper hate my ethernet hub, when it works fine in Breezy?
[09:27] <IndyBC> Hello. Frostwire can't run due to a problem. It says in line 44 in runFrost.sh that it expects { but it finds (. Is it a known problem?
[09:27] <SirYes> KGnome: can't you go further without providing this bus identifier?
[09:27] <kjm> ^Ocean^  - weird....whole idea of the NTP is to keep time accurate .....
[09:27] <pecisk> aterphasma: if it says that AC Power on when cable is plugged, everything is ok
[09:27] <pecisk> aterphasma: honesly I don't know if icon should be changing in Edgy
[09:27] <KGnome> SirYes: yes, i did
[09:27] <aterphasma> pecisk: but when i remove it, it still says it's plugged in...
[09:27] <kjm> don't know what could be the issue there - do you have your time zone set correctly?
[09:27] <izm99> so it actually starts X and you can log in, but then it freezes?
[09:27] <pecisk> aterphasma: that's not good
[09:27] <izm99> *riddlebox
[09:27] <pecisk> aterphasma: seems like ACPI reporting problems
[09:27] <aterphasma> pecisk: i got that impression
[09:27] <KGnome> SirYes: it reconfiguring the whole xserver
[09:27] <aterphasma> pecisk: acpid is started/running
[09:27] <corevette> hckrsid whats the name of the connection...eth1?
[09:28] <Daviey> The partitioner of dapper installer has taken nearly two hours!! is this okay?  (In console: top - partman is using 4% processor, which is the process using the most resources.  Current load is.2.60).  Any ideas?
[09:28] <riddlebox> izm99, ?
[09:28] <micoo> corevette write iwlist peers...you suppose to see lo,eth0...what's below eth0?
[09:28] <izm99> Woooh!  We have xorg!  :D
[09:28] <SirYes> KGnome: I did this recently so I still remembered the "spell" :)
[09:28] <izm99> riddlebox, "so it actually starts X and you can log in, but then it freezes?"
[09:29] <riddlebox> izm99, yup
[09:29] <pecisk> aterphasma: it is definetly a bug, so you propably should report it
[09:29] <KGnome> SirYes: tats ok, im changing alot of stuff
[09:29] <pecisk> aterphasma: what kind of laptop, model, vendor?
[09:29] <hckrSid> corevette, its possible that eth1 could be the wireless interface.
[09:29] <corevette> micoo lo, eth0, eth1, and sit0 all say 'interface doesn't have a list of peers/access-points'
[09:29] <micoo> ok
[09:29] <micoo> then try
[09:29] <aterphasma> pecisk: hp compaq nc8430, and it worked fine in beta3
[09:29] <izm99> riddlebox, are you sure it's the drivers?  have you looked at /var/log/Xorg*?
[09:29] <riddlebox> izm99, I even tried the beta drivers from nvidia but I cannot get x to start with it
[09:29] <micoo> iwlist eth1 scanning
[09:29] <KGnome> SirYes: it says my moitor usis 1920x1440 :-] 
[09:29] <SirYes> KGnome: did this reconfiguration help you?
[09:29] <jackyyll> can somebody help me, i'm getting this error when i try to install vmware Setup is unable to find the "make" program on your machine.  Please make sure
[09:29] <jackyyll> it is installed.  Do you want to specify the location of this program by hand?
[09:29] <jackyyll> [yes] 
[09:30] <aterphasma> pecisk: and i don't really know how to submit bug reports and such
[09:30] <corevette> micoo no scan results
[09:30] <IndyBC> Hello. Frostwire can't run due to a problem. It says in line 44 in /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh that it expects { but it finds (. Is it a known problem?
[09:30] <Flats> Is it difficult ( for a fairly newbie ) to set up a printer ( Using I would assume CUPS ) on Ubuntu that I could share so my 2 windows PC's could print to it?
[09:30] <micoo> ok
[09:30] <micoo> thats the one
[09:30] <micoo> do you have a wireless router nearby?
[09:30] <kitche> jackyyll: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:30] <riddlebox> izm99, if I set my xorg.conf to nv or vesa it will work fine, as soon I set it to nvidia I get a lock up
[09:30] <corevette> micoo yes
[09:30] <SirYes> KGnome: tell it the truth and it will work ;)
[09:30] <micoo> hmm
[09:30] <micoo> that's weird
[09:30] <micoo> try again
[09:30] <KGnome> siryes:yes
[09:30] <jackyyll> ty
[09:30] <micoo> several times
[09:30] <zool2005> with rsync, is there any way to exclude *any* file named cache or Cache?
[09:30] <corevette> micoo same thing
[09:30] <micoo> like every 10-15 secs
[09:30] <pecisk> aterphasma: did you dist-upgrade or clean install?
[09:30] <micoo> hmm
[09:31] <aterphasma> pecisk: this time it was clean off the dvd
[09:31] <micoo> is it a laptop or a desktop?
[09:31] <SirYes> KGnome: cool :D  stay healthy!
[09:31] <KGnome> SirYes: whats a horizontal sync range?
[09:31] <corevette> micoo desktop
[09:31] <micoo> damn
[09:31] <micoo> hmm
[09:31] <izm99> riddlebox, Hmm...  I'm not sure.  I'd check the logs, I guess.  Try changing settings in xorg.conf.  I just upgraded to Edgy myself, and X didn't start... so......  :)
[09:31] <SirYes> KGnome: hsync -> depends on your monitor
[09:31] <corevette> micoo should i try a static ip address?
[09:31] <razormade> Hey. Ubuntu 6.10 is out and Freevo 1.6. Does somebody got this working?
[09:31] <KGnome> SirYes: how do i find it
[09:31] <micoo> no
[09:31] <micoo> DHCP
[09:31] <swaby1> hi
[09:31] <riddlebox> razormade, I am a mythtv guy
[09:31] <Daviey> Warbo, Hmm, the partitioner is being a pain!
[09:32] <pecisk> aterphasma: hmmmm, beta 3 also was clean install, I presume?
[09:32] <SirYes> KGnome: luckily x.org detects it and you should be able to find it in a log:
[09:32] <aterphasma> yes
[09:32] <micoo> are you sure the router is on and working?
[09:32] <IndyBC> Hello. Frostwire can't run due to a problem. It says in line 44 in /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh that it expects "}" but it finds "(". Is it a known problem? Can anybody help please? Their website is down :/
[09:32] <Daviey> razormade, why use Freevo over mythtv?
[09:32] <swaby1> can anyone help with a printer install?
[09:32] <riddlebox> razormade, freevo seemed to be alot more difficult to setup than mythtv
[09:32] <strabes> !ask
[09:32] <hckrSid> corevette, what happens with 'ifup eth1' ?
[09:32] <corevette> micoo yup...i'm on a laptop next to my computer with the internet working (win xp)
[09:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:32] <jackyyll> where are my c header files that match my running kernel? :s
[09:32] <ilikecows> can someone help me use a usb logitech mic on teamspeak
[09:32] <KGnome> SirYes: ill use 28x40
[09:32] <Fackamato> hm
[09:32] <Fackamato> is there any reliable NTFS-writing in edgy?
[09:32] <corevette> hckrsid interface eth1 already configured
[09:32] <gizmo_the_great1> how can I rescan the SCSI bus without rebooting?
[09:33] <razormade> Ok mythtv is also fine. But i am a newby on this front. How do you get mythtv running?
[09:33] <Fackamato> or does anyone know of a tool/thing that can enable me to write ntfs in edgy?
[09:33] <micoo> hmmm
[09:33] <SirYes> KGnome: try this:  "grep sync /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[09:33] <micoo> i see
[09:33] <ilikecows> can someone help me use a usb logitech mic on teamspeak
[09:33] <swaby1> I have a lexmark 1100 printer added it from add printer and it won't work please help
[09:33] <hckrSid> corevette, hmmm... so it says its connected.
[09:33] <Daviey> razormade, look here http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php
[09:33] <SirYes> KGnome: better not try blind -> wrong settings here might damage your monitor... :-(
[09:33] <schopra> G'day folks
[09:33] <Flats> !cups
[09:33] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:33] <swaby1> not detected
[09:33] <corevette> hckrsid no it says it's disconnected
[09:34] <ilikecows> can someone help me use a usb logitech mic on teamspeak
[09:34] <jackyyll> I get this error while trying to install vmware, can anyone help? What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[09:34] <jackyyll> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[09:34] <situmam> Hey Guys. I have a lenovo N100 laptop with AD1980 intel sound on Edgy that I need to get working. Any help?
[09:34] <corevette> hckrsid on connection properties it says status: disconnected
[09:34] <KGnome> SirYes:ok, im done- how do i ogin normal
[09:34] <ilikecows> can someone help me use a usb logitech mic on teamspeak
[09:34] <razormade> Daviey. I will have a look at that URL
[09:34] <ilikecows> can someone help me use a usb logitech mic on teamspeak
[09:34] <micoo> hckrsid it can't be connected if the scanning has zero results
[09:34] <SirYes> KGnome: please explain further, "ogin normal" ??
[09:34] <Daviey> ilikecows, don't ask that often
[09:34] <ilikecows> lol
[09:34] <dampkap> Hi!
[09:34] <KGnome> SirYes:login
[09:34] <ilikecows> can any1 hlep
[09:34] <pecisk> aterphasma: ok, I will check out if bug system doesn't have reported already this one
[09:34] <KGnome> SirYes:login graphically
[09:35] <razormade> Daviey. First impression looks good!!!
[09:35] <SirYes> KGnome: so your'e still in text mode?
[09:35] <khermans_> how do i set the rate for y connection in network manager?
[09:35] <gizmo_the_great1> how can I rescan the SCSI bus without rebooting? I have just attached a tape drive and want to detect without rebooting?
[09:35] <khermans_> i need it to be 11M
[09:35] <KGnome> SirYes: sir yes
[09:35] <ilikecows> can any1 hlep
[09:35] <SirYes> KGnome: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:35] <ilikecows> can someone help me use a usb logitech mic on teamspeak
[09:35] <Daviey> razormade, it is good!  It's really not hard to set up with apt-get either
[09:35] <dampkap> Does anyone know any sources for good system soundsets besides gnome/kde-look.org?
[09:35] <aterphasma> pecisk: thanks
[09:36] <jorge__> hi all
[09:36] <hckrSid> hmmm... its weird.
[09:36] <corevette> micoo don't know
[09:36] <alitis4> reminme the command at the end..... apt-get install xffs-samba ?
[09:36] <jorge__> have any of you installed edgy in a dual core ppc64?
[09:36] <alitis4> how was it?
[09:36] <razormade> Daviey. Thanks a million. Strage that he orginal website doesn't have ths Ubuntu information. I'll try it directly!!!!
[09:36] <schopra> Are there help repositories for problems with mounting DVDs?
[09:36] <ilikecows> can someone help me use a usb logitech mic on teamspeak
[09:36] <KGnome> SirYes: it says starting gnome display manager ..... [fail] 
[09:37] <jrib> Has anyone installed ratpoison on edgy?  The package doesn't seem to have crated a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/
[09:37] <ilikecows> has any1 install ventrilo before
[09:37] <ilikecows> ???????
[09:37] <dampkap> schopra: What's your problem?
[09:37] <micoo> i dunno it's weird
[09:37] <kitche> jrib: ratposion doesn't use .desktop files
[09:37] <kjm> ilikecows - please don't spam the room - if some one can answer your question they will.  Patience is needed - not persistance.
[09:37] <SirYes> KGnome: ouch. You're using ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu ... ?
[09:37] <frolle> What shall i add in xorg.conf to use res 1024x764 ?
[09:37] <dampkap> ilikecows: Is Verntrilo available for Linux?
[09:37] <jrib> kitche: how am i supposed to load it?
[09:38] <ilikecows> thers a script
[09:38] <hckrSid> corevette, did you put the name of the wireless network (ESSID) in the network configuration (for eth1)?
[09:38] <ilikecows> under third party on downloads
[09:38] <Daviey> razormade, this might also help http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu#Ubuntu
[09:38] <ilikecows> i cant seem to figure it out
[09:38] <kitche> !ratposion
[09:38] <KGnome> SirYes: xubuntu, but ill recofigure selecting autoatic stuff
[09:38] <kitche> !ratpoison
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ratposion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <corevette> hckrsid yes
[09:38] <ubotu> ratpoison: keyboard-only window manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4.0.dfsg-4 (edgy), package size 157 kB, installed size 464 kB
[09:38] <schopra> I can't get this DVD read - and when I go to the file browser it simply says cant' count volume
[09:38] <saxton> My monitors blank out (going to power-saving mode?) after only a few minutes (I don't want this; at least not as quickly)
[09:38] <saxton> I've tried to adjust the DPMS values via xset, but that doesn't seem to have any effect
[09:38] <KGnome> SirYes: automatic
[09:38] <pecisk> aterphasma: you could do a "dmesg > dmesg.txt", open dmesg.txt in gedit, copy it, and paste it in www.pastebin.com, and then give me url it will give you
[09:38] <SirYes> KGnome: inspect the output of "sudo tail /var/log/messages"
[09:38] <schopra> And thanks for noticing dampkap :)!
[09:38] <ilikecows> i know teamspeak works
[09:38] <kitche> jrib: either make sure gdm doesn't start and add exec ratpoison to your .xinitrc
[09:39] <Daviey> kitche, ratpoison is a minimal x-server that doesn't use the mouse very much. Relies on keyboard shortcuts
[09:39] <NiklasH_work> hi, does anyone else have problems accessing packages.freecontrib.org? (The plf repository)
[09:39] <schopra> Its a DVD-R
[09:39] <ompaul> !plf
[09:39] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[09:39] <KGnome> SirYes: VGA is a pretty universal dirver, right?
[09:39] <dampkap> schopra: have you mounted it?
[09:39] <SirYes> KGnome: what desktop manager (DM) does xubuntu use? (I have no idea, really)
[09:39] <ilikecows> i know teamspeak works
[09:39] <ilikecows> can someone help me use a usb logitech mic on teamspeak
[09:39] <ompaul> SirYes, sfce
[09:39] <atoponce> if i port forward using ssh on ubuntu, how can i get my widows pc on the same network to share the ssh tunnel also?
[09:39] <Commander-Crowe> !XGL
[09:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:39] <UKMatt> I've been using Swiftfox so I'm not sure about this, but in Firefox, what directory do you save the Flash Plugins
[09:39] <schopra> Perhaps thats the problem - I was assuming auto-mount on insertion
[09:39] <SirYes> KGnome: vga is okay, try vesa too (it's better)
[09:39] <KGnome> SirYes: me neither, i havn't seen it yet
[09:39] <NiklasH_work> aww, crap. thanks anyway
[09:39] <ompaul> SirYes, has a channel of its own #xubuntu
[09:39] <corevette> hckrsid i don't know if it's configurd currectly
[09:40] <mohammed> hi there
[09:40] <schopra> Dumb assumption?
[09:40] <bruenig> UKMatt, mine is in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[09:40] <Commander-Crowe> !XGL
[09:40] <SirYes> ompaul: thx, I'm trying to help KGnome :)
[09:40] <aterphasma> pecisk: right
[09:40] <bruenig> !xgl
[09:40] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:40] <NiklasH_work> !AIGLX
[09:40] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[09:40] <atoponce> ssh -g -L 8080:10.0.0.68:3128 user@servername.org
[09:40] <hckrSid> corevette, try 'ifconfig eth1 up' ?
[09:40] <LjL> !msg the bot
[09:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[09:40] <UKMatt> bruenig, awesome ty
[09:40] <corevette> hckrsid 'permission denied'
[09:40] <stacy> hello if i wanted to upgrade to edgy from a disc is there one out there
[09:41] <razormade> Daviey. Thanks for the URL's!
[09:41] <ilikecows> Make sure "snd_usb_audio" is loaded:
[09:41] <ilikecows> lsmod | grep snd_usb_audio
[09:41] <ilikecows> If you get no output you need to write the following:
[09:41] <ilikecows> modprobe snd_usb_audio
[09:41] <ilikecows> Then it should work - in theory. It still won't work in Audacity for example
[09:41] <ilikecows> though, some programs just don't let you choose to use /dev/dsp1.*sigh*
[09:41] <hckrSid> corevette, try 'sudo ifconfig eth1 up' ?
[09:41] <greystoker> hi all. does the ubuntu 6.10 release include wireless nic drivers?
[09:41] <ilikecows> what does that mean ^
[09:41] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell ilikecows about paste
[09:41] <KGnome> SirYes: im on #xubuntu as well
[09:41] <atoponce> when i point my ubuntu firefox browser to localhost:8080, i can browse fine, but my windows firefox pointed to 10.0.0.68:8080 times out
[09:41] <atoponce> any ideas?
[09:41] <philwhln> hi, what do I need to play a *.asf stream?
[09:41] <atoponce> my ubuntu box ip / 10.0.0.68
[09:41] <riddlebox> izm99, is there a place to get the newest deb files for nvidia drivers?
[09:41] <ompaul> ilikecows, DO NOT PASTE in the channel thanks - use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:41] <corevette> hckrsid 'SIOCSIFFLAGS: no such file or directory'
[09:41] <dampkap> ilikecows: it means, you should type "lsmod | grep snd_usb_audio" in a shell and press the "enter" key.
[09:41] <ilikecows> sry
[09:42] <ilikecows> okay then should my mic work?
[09:42] <stacy> is there a disc you can upgrade to edgy with
[09:42] <Flannel> atoponce: can you browse from ubuntu at 10.0.0.68:8080?
[09:42] <Phaqui> ah, I got the sound
[09:42] <mohammed> please iam asking about rpms
[09:42] <Flannel> stacy: the alternate CD can be used to upgrade
[09:42] <LjL> stacy: the edgy disc...?
[09:42] <atoponce> Flannel: yeah. just fine
[09:42] <Phaqui> had to set something in my vlc
[09:42] <SirYes> KGnome: ok, I'm going to #xubuntu
[09:42] <dampkap> ilikecows: in theory.
[09:42] <ompaul> mohammed, if you ahve to ask they are not for running on ubuntu - you want .debs
[09:42] <mohammed> how can i install rpm files
[09:42] <stacy> and how do i get the alternate CD
[09:42] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell mohammed about rpm
[09:42] <izm99> riddlebox, not sure.  I just use the ones in apt.  apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:42] <dampkap> ilikecows: Have you checked the mixer settings?
[09:42] <ilikecows> ty im noob at this
[09:43] <philwhln> can vlc play a *.asf stream?
[09:43] <atoponce> ubuntu is executing the command, and i want to share the port forwarding with windows, but can't seem to get it right
[09:43] <n1gke> !ubotu rpm
[09:43] <Daviey> The partitioner of dapper installer has taken over two hours!! is this okay?  (In console: top - partman is using 4% processor, which is the process using the most resources.  Current load is.2.60).  Any ideas?
[09:43] <atoponce> windows always times out
[09:43] <overridex> is there any work around for the black and white bootsplash issue on amd64?
[09:43] <schopra> dampkap: I guess I don't know what the correct syntax for the mount command for DVDs is
[09:43] <hckrSid> corevette, looks like others have had this problem...
[09:43] <corevette> !uboto wireless
[09:43] <kitche> mohammed: you can use alien, to use it open up a terminal and do alien <name>.rpm and it should make a .deb for you
[09:43] <hckrSid> corevette, which wireless card are you using?
[09:43] <LjL> Daviey: i don't think it's normal
[09:43] <schopra> dampkap: I'm running man mount now so let me see if I can figure this out
[09:43] <ompaul> !alien
[09:43] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[09:43] <stacy> i would like to upgrade my system but i cant seem to get it done from the instructions on the web pages
[09:44] <corevette> hckrsid 'linksys instant wireless pci'
[09:44] <dampkap> ilikecows: Make sure in the audio mixer settings, the mic is turned on and the input level is not 0.
[09:44] <ompaul> mohammed, kitche   ^^ please read that last statement by ubotu
[09:44] <Daviey> LjL,   It's a 160gb NTFS drive with 30gig free and a partition being made of 20gig.  The drive probably wasn't defragged properly
[09:44] <nbx909> hey
[09:44] <nbx909> quick question
[09:44] <ilikecows> when running lsmod | grep snd_usb_audio i get bash: gray: command not found can some1 help
[09:44] <LjL> stacy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades mentions about upgrading using a CD
[09:44] <atoponce> so why can ubuntu point to 10.0.0.68:8080 and browse with ssh tunneling, but windows pointed to 10.0.0.68:8080 can't?
[09:44] <hckrSid> corevette, did you have to install a driver?
[09:44] <stacy> thanks
[09:44] <nbx909> has the linux image 686 been renamed to generic in edgy?
[09:44] <dampkap> schopra: "mount /dev/cdrom /mnt" should do.
[09:44] <corevette> hckrsid no
[09:44] <atoponce> that's the big thing that has me stumped
[09:45] <LjL> Daviey: well, still two hours sound a bit much. can you hear the drive crunching?
[09:45] <Flannel> atoponce: ssh tunneling?
[09:45] <LjL> nbx909: yes
[09:45] <zaatar> can i ask questions about beryl here?
[09:45] <jrib> kitche: is there any good reason for ratpoison to not include a .desktop file for gdm to offer the option in a session.  The changelog mentions something about it already being regsitered in the Debian menu, but that doesn't seem to take into account the sessions in gdm
[09:45] <atoponce> Flannel: yeah
[09:45] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell zaatar about beryl
[09:45] <Zaggynl> Okay this is really weird, aMSN makes my 3d accelerated apps stutter!
[09:45] <nbx909> LjL, good that's what i thought, i was like wtf why didn't 686 install!
[09:45] <Narf> hello
[09:45] <philwhln> stacey: make sure you backup before upgrading. the upgrade didn't work for me
[09:45] <SirYes> [Edgy 6.10]  - has anybody succeded installing it using existing partition layout?
[09:45] <Daviey> LjL, i'm not sure to be honest.  the power fan is too loud
[09:45] <amit> how to create local prepository in directory ??
[09:45] <Narf> what are the system requirements for 6.10?
[09:45] <stacy> thats the site i have been using and i dont have a disc i am just wondering if its available
[09:45] <kitche> jrib: well it doesn't use .desktop at all, sicne it's all keyboard based the window manager that is
[09:46] <stacy> i have already backed everything up
[09:46] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Narf about hardware
[09:46] <Daviey> LjL, it's quite warm if that means anything
[09:46] <pecisk> ilikecows: should work, sure you haven't used gray instead of grep?
[09:46] <schopra> dampkap: thanks, let me try that
[09:46] <LjL> Daviey: nah
[09:46] <philwhln> stacy: good job ;)
[09:46] <stacy> thanks
[09:46] <hckrSid> corevette, hmmm... possibly something to do with the driver.
[09:46] <jrib> kitche: but the .desktop is for /usr/share/xsessions, fluxbox, fwvm both include one.  It just lets you switch at the login screen
[09:46] <amit> I already go through "how tos" .
[09:46] <Daviey> LjL, i think it is doing stuff.  partman is using 5% processor
[09:46] <corevette> hckrsid would ndiswrapper fix this?
[09:46] <jorge__> any ppc64 user here?
[09:47] <Daviey> LjL, if i stop it, will it fubar my NTFS partition!?!?
[09:47] <amit> please help me
[09:47] <jrib> kitche: it did have one in dapper
[09:47] <LjL> Daviey: 5% processor doesn't sound very impressive. you're really looking for HD activity anyway, not processor time -- doesn't your HD have a LED anyway?
[09:47] <amit> please
[09:47] <LjL> Daviey: possibly
[09:47] <ilikecows> when running lsmod | grep snd_usb_audio i get bash: gray: command not found can some1 help
[09:47] <LjL> Daviey: (likely)
[09:47] <greystoker> does ubuntu 6.1 come with wireless nic drivers?
[09:47] <hckrSid> corevette, its possible.
[09:47] <SirYes> [Edgy 6.10] 
[09:47] <SirYes> [Edgy 6.10]  - has anybody succeded installing it using existing partition layout?
[09:47] <amit> hello
[09:47] <Daviey> LjL, no LED
[09:47] <stacy> im really new to all of this and i just want my system to be up to date and i cant seem to even get software to install correctly
[09:47] <moiph> So I've got a logitech keyboard with media keys.  I have set the keys in prefs>keyboard shortcuts, and I got them working with xmms, but I'm having trouble getting them to work globally with amarok. Any ideas? (They work when amarok is the active window)
[09:47] <stacy> i have tried the flashplayer and its still not working entirely correct
[09:47] <schopra> dampkap: another silly question (potentially) - I have a CD-ROM drive and a CD-RW/DVD+RW drive
[09:48] <POVaddct> greystoker: yes, but not for all wireless nics.
[09:48] <Daviey> LjL, my load is quite high mind
[09:48] <pecisk> SirYes: you mean by dist-upgrade? Yes, I have
[09:48] <greystoker> POVaddct thx
[09:48] <aquaducter> I think the package system is great
[09:48] <SirYes> [Edgy 6.10]  - in my case I always must create a partition, or installer refuses to continue
[09:48] <vandit2k7> hi I have a keyboard problem in Ubuntu!!     can anyone help
[09:48] <stacy> it works but the sound is turned off and the keyboard wont work on certain games that require the arrow keys
[09:48] <LjL> amit: you've checked out apt-proxy, apt-mirror and apt-cacher i suppose
[09:48] <pecisk> vandit2k7: specify :)
[09:48] <schopra> dampkap: I have a CD-ROM Drive and a CD-RW/DVD+RW drive
[09:48] <LjL> !ask | vandit2k7
[09:48] <ubotu> vandit2k7: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:48] <amit> No no
[09:48] <schopra> does that make a difference to the syntax of the mount command?
[09:48] <SirYes> pecisk: I did two fresh installs recently (plus one dist-upgrade) and two times it gave me the same problem
[09:49] <pecisk> schopra: no
[09:49] <corevette> hckrsid do i have to download it?
[09:49] <amit> I follow this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42862
[09:49] <schopra> I have a music cD playing currently in the CD-ROM drive
[09:49] <schopra> Ok, thanks
[09:49] <Daviey> LjL, I just say parted_server quickly appear on my top list
[09:49] <stacy> is there a web forum i can join that is completely for beginners
[09:49] <pecisk> SirYes: what kind of problem?
[09:49] <hckrSid> corevette, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:49] <AkumAPRIME> ok, so I want to use dual monitors, but of course, if I switch away from my monitor, I want the settings to change, so I found this multimonitor script that does just that. So my question is: what do I do with this script to make it perform its function?
[09:49] <kitche> jrib: it seems that ratposion doesn't make one for gdm but it has oen for xdm
[09:49] <LjL> Daviey: i'd give it another two hours...
[09:49] <chuckyp> stacy, forums.ubuntu.org    there is a absolute beginers forum there.
[09:49] <^Ocean^> Any one have problems getting VMware to run under Edgy ?
[09:50] <stacy> thanks so much
[09:50] <LjL> ^Ocean^: yes - i need to run it as root (the vmware player, i mean)
[09:50] <TooTallJones> I get this "Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.       Using the fallback 'C' locale." when opening gaim, cedega, or any other python program.  I just put on a clean install of edgy xubuntu.  I tried reconfiguring my locales and updating my language packages.  And nothing
[09:50] <SirYes> pecisk: glad you've asked
[09:50] <vandit2k7> Ok hi I have a Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard which is a PS2 keyboard...when I start up Ubuntu that is when cd loads..I can choose navigate that menu like where you get to choose F4 for VGA but then when it actually loads ubuntu fully and I open a command line and I try to type something it doesn't type
[09:50] <u221e> Can I use the 6.06 CD to network install 6.10?
[09:50] <jrib> kitche: hmm weird, ok thanks for teh info
[09:50] <Daviey> LjL, triffic!  I really wish i wacked a new drive in here.  It's somebody i convinced to try Ubuntu!  Doesn't look good eh?
[09:50] <kitche> jrib: check gentoo-wiki.com they have the code to make the .desktop file for ratposion
[09:50] <lgp> Hi,all
[09:50] <jrib> kitche: yeah I just grabbed it from the dapper deb, but I'll file a bug
[09:50] <SirYes> pecisk: gparted doesn't let me through without creating a partition for / - root fs.
[09:50] <stacy> ill go in there and see what i can find thanks again
[09:51] <Daviey> ^Ocean^,  No problems with Vmware on edg
[09:51] <Vrooom> Hi my gf have this acer laptop. and guess what she loved ubuntu... i cant get it online with wireless connection although i filled all the details,   and it say eth1 cannot to be activeated  any idea?  my ear are bleeding by her nagging "my internet not worky!"
[09:51] <LjL> Daviey: uh, no :-\ still anyway, not much use for right now, but you should always do a chkdsk and a defrag from Windows before resizing its partitions...
[09:51] <LjL> Daviey: (and have a backup, but that goes without saying ;)
[09:51] <lgp> can anyone tell me how to install plugins in Firefox?
[09:51] <^Ocean^> Daviey, hmm because after i upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, my vmware stoped working...
[09:51] <Daviey> LjL, of course :(
[09:51] <^Ocean^> i type vmare and it just jumps my cpu upto 100% and thats it.
[09:52] <kitche> ^Ocean^: that's because you have to reinstall it sicne it depends on the kernel for a lot of it's function
[09:52] <Daviey> ^Ocean^, try removing it an re-installing it
[09:52] <SirYes> pecisk: even if I have a spare partition for Edgy, it forces me to delete a partition and to recreate it - then the installation proceeds.
[09:52] <philwhln> can totem play asf streams?
[09:52] <u221e> Can I use the 6.06 CD to network install 6.10?
[09:52] <Vrooom> Any idea how to get wireless internet working
[09:52] <pecisk> SirYes: it is not such way that you should specify which partition will be root?
[09:52] <aquaducter> anyone gotten WOW to run under wine?
[09:52] <vandit2k7> Ok hi I have a Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard which is a PS2 keyboard...when I start up Ubuntu that is when cd loads..I can choose navigate that menu like where you get to choose F4 for VGA but then when it actually loads ubuntu fully and I open a command line and I try to type something it doesn't type
[09:52] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell aquaducter about wow
[09:52] <^Ocean^> I did try that, and i even upgraded too the newest vmware
[09:52] <kitche> aquaducter: there is a patched version of wine out for WoW
[09:53] <pecisk> SirYes: hmmmm, feels like a bug, but I honestly can be sure, have no livecd to check it out
[09:53] <aquaducter> so if I just use the one in package manager it wont work?>
[09:53] <rwscold> Does anyone know how to get the fglrx drivers working on an ati x800xl card i have done so many different things looked at all the guides i just odnt know what to do!
[09:53] <pecisk> SirYes: try to report it to Launchpad
[09:53] <SirYes> pecisk: yes, I can select "/" and "/home" from the combo boxes, but it's not enough for the installer :-(
[09:53] <overridex> is there a separate channel for 64-bit ubuntu?
[09:53] <Nutubuntu> I've read mixed reviews of Dapper and Edgy on Athlon 64s ... anyone with first-hand experience? I'm currently running Dapper on an older Athlon XP1600+ and feeling the Hardware Upgrade Creature gnawing at me
[09:54] <schopra> damkap, pecisk: mount wants me to specify the filesystem type
[09:54] <g8m> SirYes, same experience here, i had to remove the partition and recreate it to proceed the installation
[09:54] <SirYes> pecisk: OTOH when I recreate the partition, its "format" checkbox becomes both selected and grayed out - then it goes.
[09:54] <rwscold> Does anyone know how to get the fglrx drivers working on an ati x800xl card i have done so many different things looked at all the guides i just odnt know what to do!
[09:54] <esaym> anyone have any hints on this topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1646404#post1646404
[09:54] <schopra> Is the fact that I'm trying to mount a DVD-R in a DVD+RW drive relevant?
[09:54] <SirYes> g8m: soooo, it *is* repeatable :)
[09:55] <pecisk> schopra: -t iso
[09:55] <SirYes> g8m: good to know, now it starts to look like a bug :)
[09:55] <schopra> I'm puzzled as to why it would automount audio CDs but not DVDs
[09:55] <pecisk> schopra: you should provide CD iso file system
[09:55] <schopra> pecisk: thanks
[09:55] <glickity> excuse me, how can i remove gaim?
[09:55] <glickity> it says that i have to remove the complete desktop to remove gaim?
[09:55] <pecisk> glickity: sudo apt-get remove gaim or use Synaptic
[09:55] <SirYes> pecisk: thanks for the suggestion, how do I "report to Launchpad"? Just a normal bug report?
[09:56] <ilikecows> were is audio mixer located
[09:56] <pecisk> SirYes: yes
[09:56] <schopra> pecisk: it says no medium found
[09:56] <variant> schopra: dvd's use udf format not iso-9660
[09:56] <pecisk> SirYes: www.launchpad.net
[09:56] <MrKeuner> hi, is there a way to use static IP with a wireless network card in nm-applet?
[09:56] <glickity> ubuntu-desktop has to be removed as welll it says
[09:56] <schopra> aha
[09:56] <variant> schopra: is the disk blank?
[09:56] <nevermind> ok, i've been here last night, and i know that many ones were complaining about X not starting on edgy
[09:56] <pecisk> variant: huh, not all
[09:56] <JDahl> glickity, it's because ubuntu-desktop depends on gaim - that way you can install all essential desktop packages easily. Why do you need to remove gaim?
[09:56] <nevermind> anyone here got the same probem?
[09:56] <variant> pecisk: movie ones do
[09:56] <schopra> no, it has a video on it
[09:56] <MrM> glickity, ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage that depends on the default programs that are on your desktop
[09:56] <lewwid> DCC SEND UpgradeYourDamnRouterNubs
[09:56] <MrM> glickity, removing ubuntu-desktop will NOT remove your desktop ;)
[09:56] <variant> schopra: is it a video dvd? or a data dvd with a video file on it?
[09:56] <Sync> wtf
[09:56] <AfterDeath> owtf
[09:56] <pecisk> variant: but I guess mount still it mounts as iso
[09:57] <schopra> A video DVD
[09:57] <glickity> JDahl, cause i have minimal harddisk space on this computer
[09:57] <pecisk> or I am wrong
[09:57] <Pensacola> is there something like the 386 linux image for edgy, because the generic kernel is not very stable
[09:57] <glickity> and dont want certain packages
[09:57] <variant> schopra: then you don't need to mount it
[09:57] <schopra> variant: a video DVD - which plays fine in the home DVD player
[09:57] <Vrooom> thanks alot i got headache my gf shouted at me
[09:57] <variant> schopra: apt-get install ogle
[09:57] <variant> schopra: then just type ogle or click the icon for it to play the dvd
[09:57] <SirYes> pecisk: thanks, I'm already registered and reported something there too :)
[09:57] <schopra> ok, installed ogle
[09:57] <SirYes> pecisk: so, it's time for another one (bug report, that is). Thx.
[09:58] <rwscold> i am having problems getting X to start because of vide drivers
[09:58] <pecisk> SirYes: yep, earn those damn points for you :)
[09:58] <variant> schopra: or you can type mplayer dvd://1 but mplayer subtitles and menu is not as nice as ogle
[09:58] <pecisk> SirYes: and provide detailed report
[09:58] <JDahl> glickity, gaim is probably not that big. Try "sudo apt-get clean" and see if that doesnt clear up some space for you
[09:58] <schopra> Can I paste the four lines of the error I got from ogle?
[09:58] <TC`> !virtual cd
[09:58] <variant> schopra: i dont mind
[09:58] <TC`> !virtual-cd
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtual-cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <schopra> libdvdread: Could not open input: No medium found
[09:58] <schopra> libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading
[09:58] <schopra> ERROR[ogle_nav] : faild to open/read the DVD
[09:58] <schopra> DVDSetDVDRoot:: Root not set
[09:59] <overridex> Nutubuntu: i run ubuntu 64-bit... not to say you'd have to if you upgraded your cpu
[09:59] <nalioth> shachaf_: please don't paste
[09:59] <variant> schopra: do you have more than one dvd drive?
[09:59] <schopra> Only one drive
[09:59] <TC`> what program use on ubuntu to open virtual cd/dvd? .iso .nrg ect...
[09:59] <schopra> I have a CD-ROM drive which is being used right now
[09:59] <pecisk> schopra: it is not double layer dvd?
[09:59] <aquaducter> I really like this distribution, good job guys
[09:59] <schopra> its a DVD-R
[09:59] <variant> TC`: you mean like daemon tools?
[09:59] <TC`> yeh
[10:00] <schopra> I'm not sure if thats a double layer
[10:00] <variant> TC`: you can mount an iso or whatever with the mount command
[10:00] <godmachine81> automatix2 is nice.. i dont care what you ppl say
[10:00] <AkumAPRIME> ok, so I want to use dual monitors, but of course, if I switch away from my monitor, I want the settings to change, so I found this multimonitor script that does just that. So my question is: what do I do with this script to make it perform its function?
[10:00] <AkumAPRIME> true godmachine
[10:00] <TC`> "sudo mount"
[10:00] <TC`> ?
[10:00] <godmachine81> AkumAPRIME:: we all know why they dont support automatix...
[10:00] <rwscold> back to dapper i go
[10:00] <AkumAPRIME> godmachine81: we do?
[10:00] <Nutubuntu> overridex:  I'm really dim about the new generation of cpus (pretty dim about the old too) -- would I *not* have to run a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit cpu?
[10:01] <MrM> since i updated to breezy (from dapper), my firefox has ugly fonts (see http://www.mesw.de/support/firefox_thunderbird.png for a picture with firefox on the left and thunderbird on the right). on dapper, thunderbird and firefox would look the same
[10:01] <Lattyware> could anyone help? After updating to Edgy, Azureus won't work (my only problem)
[10:01] <mike_> why are some of my themes not working with edgy?
[10:01] <godmachine81> AkumAPRIME:: its a little thing called "easyubuntu"  the people in #ubuntu are actively developing with it.. and they dont support automatix because they work apart from them..
[10:01] <Pensacola> I like the new fonts :)
[10:01] <pecisk> I am surprised about automatix and other tools, while there is more trustable installation way with Universe and Multiverse packages
[10:01] <JDahl> Lattyware, have you checked that java works?
[10:01] <godmachine81> AkumAPRIME:: they like to spread lies..
[10:01] <rwscold> what i dont get is why they cant get ati drivers working right our of box
[10:01] <pecisk> are people really that lazy?
[10:01] <MrM> Pensacola, you mean the new fonts of firefox?
[10:01] <aquaducter> anyone know why grub would only find the partitions if I first boot the ubuntu CD then select 'boot from first hd'? It will load grub without the cd in but it wont find the partition with the filesystem on it
[10:01] <variant> TC`: mount -o loop filenamehere.iso /mnt/
[10:01] <dimitri> hi all
[10:01] <schopra> basically it seems libdvdread can't open device
[10:01] <Flats> Is it failrly simple to setup a printer using CUPS so that I could print from my other 2 windows servers?
[10:01] <Pensacola> yeah
[10:01] <LjL> godmachine81, AkumAPRIME, feel free to take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:02] <schopra> can't open /dev/dvd for reading
[10:02] <Lattyware> JDahl: No, what do I need to do?
[10:02] <godmachine81> LjL:: no worries
[10:02] <tritium> godmachine81: there are no lies being spread.  I suggest you not start spreading some yourself.
[10:02] <variant> schopra: yeah, either it's not a dvd video or the disk is blank
[10:02] <Rav|strangler> why do people down automatix?
[10:02] <variant> schopra: or it's the wrong device
[10:02] <godmachine81> tritium:: im not spreading any lies
[10:02] <jacked> schopra: mount it as root
[10:02] <tritium> Rav|strangler: because it messes with system settings and can leave you with a broken system
[10:02] <schopra> bizarree - I played it on my DVD player so its not blank and is definitely a DVD video
[10:02] <dimitri> why cant i get linux-k7 to install the amd k7 kernel image?
[10:02] <pecisk> Rav|strangler: because there is a lot better ways to get all those apps installed?
[10:02] <tritium> godmachine81: see your comment above about spreading lies (untrue)
[10:02] <variant> Rav|strangler: i dislike it as it automates the installtion of non-free software, I prefer to keep my rights intact thanks
[10:03] <jacked> (I think I came in the middle of that convo.  woops.  hehe)
[10:03] <schopra> variant: when you say "wrong device", does that mean that the particular DVD format won't work on this drive I have?
[10:03] <MrM> Pensacola, i don't even think these are new fonts. it's just that the text looks blurry while the normal fonts don't, at least when i use bitstream vera sans
[10:03] <kodat> anyone else have problems with flash in firefox..wonder if i should switch to opera
[10:03] <justin420> hi all. when following the directions on http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Kernel_Compilation_Dapper ; one of the very first steps says to change in your xorg.conf file, the device section from "nvidia" or "fglrx" to vesa or ati or nv, I tried using nv and vesa and both times it says that device is already in use? can anyone help with that? i tried asking in in #ubuntu-kernel and either everyone is choosing not to help, or everyone doesnt know.
[10:03] <overridex> Nutubuntu: nope, amd64 cpus can run 32-bit code natively, so it's your choice - you can also run a 64-bit os but have 32-bit apps inside it (for instance i run a 32-bit firefox on ubuntu 64 so that some of the closed source plugins work)
[10:03] <Rav|strangler> where could one find a more trustable source?
[10:03] <godmachine81> tritium:: ok.. i have seen many many times that people in here strongly encourage people not to use automatix because it has broke several systems.. i call that a lie..
[10:03] <pecisk> kodat: no problems, everything works
[10:03] <theqkash> hello all
[10:03] <schopra> jacked: I've been  using sudo for all these commands
[10:03] <glickity> ok i just deleted the binary manually
[10:03] <variant> schopra: no, i mean /dev/dvd is not the drive which contains the disk. test it by doing eject /dev/dvd
[10:03] <JDahl> Lattyware, try something like "java --version" from a terminal to see if java is installed - I think Azereus is written in java,  but I am sure it's your problem
[10:03] <pecisk> Rav|strangler: Universe/Multiverse repositories
[10:03] <Pensacola> I changed the default font in dapper, but I like the ones in edgy, so all is default here
[10:04] <kodat> pecisk, damn..everytime i go to legitreviews firefox just crashes on me >.<
[10:04] <tritium> godmachine81: well, you're quite mistaken.  It _has_ broken many systems, and that's a fact.
[10:04] <pecisk> Rav|strangler: Add/Remove Apps in Applications menu
[10:04] <alex_> hola
[10:04] <schopra> Ok, it ejected
[10:04] <LjL> godmachine81, tritium, as i said, please take this to -offtopic
[10:04] <theqkash> help me. plz.... after upgrading to edgy i haven't polish characters and I can't go from X to any TTY:(
[10:04] <Rav|strangler> any way to mimic the appilities of automatix?
[10:04] <godmachine81> tritium and LjL:: when im bending over backwards helping these people in this room.. remind me to take it to ##some-offtopic BS
[10:04] <overridex> Nutubuntu: also most closed source games are 32-bit, but will run on a 64-bit ubuntu install (doom3, quake 4, etc.)
[10:04] <alex_> where can I find canals?
[10:04] <LjL> Rav|strangler: yes, read the wiki documentation people have painstakingly written ;)
[10:04] <jacked> schopra: sorry, hadn't seen any other comments from you.   sudo should work fine
[10:04] <variant> Rav|strangler: just install the apps you need in the normal way, automatix is such pointless lazyness it's unreal
[10:04] <pecisk> kodat: for me, Flash on Linux is bugger by default, so yes, I have several sites crashing because of Flash, but I don't care, because it is just flash
[10:04] <theqkash> help me. plz.... after upgrading to edgy i haven't polish characters and I can't go from X to any TTY:(
[10:04] <Lattyware> JDahl: Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_08-b03)
[10:04] <Lattyware> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_08-b03, mixed mode, sharing)
[10:04] <schopra> jacked, thanks
[10:05] <alex_> can you help me?
[10:05] <kodat> pecisk, yeah thats true hehe
[10:05] <schopra> variant: so the eject command working for it should mean that /dev/dvd is the right device?
[10:05] <variant> schopra: yup
[10:05] <Nutubuntu> overridex:  many thanks ... that makes some of the choices a lot easier for me !
[10:05] <schopra> goshdangit, whats going on here
[10:05] <variant> schopra: if you do mount /dev/dvd /mnt what does it do?
[10:05] <jacked> alex_: only if you phrase your question in the form of a response
[10:05] <Rav|strangler> I like pointless and lazyness :-) how could an 11 year old take in all this??
[10:05] <reiki> ok my xorg.conf says I'm using the nvidia driver, but I don't see the nvidia splash screen I've heard (seen?) people talk about. Should I be suspicious that something isn't starting?
[10:05] <LjL> alex_: /msg chanserv help list
[10:05] <schopra> variant: lemme try
[10:06] <TC`> !mount
[10:06] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:06] <els> hi
[10:06] <variant> TC`: did the command i told you not work?
[10:06] <schopra> variant: I get a "no medium found" message
[10:06] <theqkash> help me. plz.... after upgrading to edgy i haven't polish characters and I can't go from X to any TTY:(
[10:06] <godmachine81> painstakingly written..
[10:06] <variant> TC`: mount -o loop filenamehere.iso /mnt/
[10:06] <Rav|strangler> I'll keep reading thanks
[10:06] <alex_> I want a cinema canal
[10:06] <schopra> I typed "sudo mount -t udf /dev/dvd /mnt
[10:06] <TC`> which command
[10:06] <variant> schopra: ok, it is a blank disk. perhaps it is the wrong format for your kind of drive.. i don't know
[10:06] <TC`> i realy don't know how to use it ;] 
[10:06] <variant> TC`: mount -o loop filenamehere.iso /mnt/
[10:06] <TC`> go to directory
[10:06] <alex_> what have I to do?
[10:06] <schopra> variant: thanks so much
[10:06] <godmachine81> Rav|strangler:: http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&Itemid=30
[10:07] <dxdemetriou> how can the amixer to work as root but not to user, and also with sudo?
[10:07] <variant> TC`:in a terminal type sudo mount -o loop /path/to/your/isofilenamehere.iso /mnt/
[10:07] <schopra> variant: I'm guessing DVD-R just isn't read by DVD+RW
[10:07] <godmachine81> LjL:: and tritium i think you should both take a look at that as well
[10:07] <jacked> schopra:  sudo mkdir /mnt/dvd
[10:07] <variant> schopra: i dont know
[10:07] <LjL> godmachine81: like i hadn't seen that.
[10:07] <howieson26> !de
[10:07] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:07] <jacked> schopra: then mount as /mnt/dvd
[10:07] <schopra> jacked: ok, lets try that!
[10:07] <variant> jacked: i doubt that that will work
[10:08] <funkmaster> hey ppl
[10:08] <schopra> jacked:  yeah, it didn't
[10:08] <jacked> variant: oh. my bad then
[10:08] <funkmaster> i got problemswith dapper edgy
[10:08] <schopra> same error message
[10:08] <TC`> will it work on .cue?
[10:08] <TC`> ;;] 
[10:08] <Rav|strangler> lol
[10:08] <jacked> oh... great
[10:08] <funkmaster> was upgrading ran into a lot of trouble
[10:08] <godmachine81> LjL:: i find it to be ontopic when automatix relates to ubuntu.. and i want a good reason not to use it but to use easyubuntu instead.  give me one good reason
[10:08] <funkmaster> but managed to get it to boot
[10:08] <variant> TC`: dunno, you might have to change the format
[10:08] <variant> TC`: try it
[10:08] <funkmaster> but the desktop won't start correctly
[10:08] <tritium> godmachine81: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:08] <variant> TC`: try it on the .bin instead if thats what you have
[10:08] <schopra> this errror message "no medium found"makes me think the dvd just isn't being recognized at all
[10:09] <pecisk> TC`: no, it won't work with cue, but you can convert with bchunk app
[10:09] <funkmaster> i use my username and password and it tried to load the deskto but nothing comes
[10:09] <Rav|strangler> "If you ask us for help and you mention that your were told by someone on #Ubuntu that Automatix caused the problem, your request for help will be ignored." --Oh thats just great!
[10:09] <variant> schopra: is it scratched?
[10:09] <funkmaster> any ideas how i could fix that??
[10:09] <pecisk> TC`: convert to iso I mean
[10:09] <schopra> variant: no its fine
[10:09] <Rav|strangler> haha
[10:09] <Corbo> is anyone good with samba?
[10:09] <schopra> I just watched it yesterday at home
[10:09] <hckrSid> schopra, yea... a DVD-R is probably not recognized on a DVD+RW drive.
[10:09] <tritium> it appears godmachine81 is volunteering to support people who use automatix
[10:09] <schopra> I'm going to try some other DVDs
[10:09] <pecisk> funkmaster: it throws you back using old user and password?
[10:09] <funkmaster> nope
[10:09] <funkmaster> i use my normal user/pass
[10:10] <hckrSid> schopra, I have a DVD-writer like that... which recognizes only DVD-R/RWs.
[10:10] <Rav|strangler> tritium, I agree
[10:10] <TC`> how to enter root? :D
[10:10] <funkmaster> but it won't load
[10:10] <Rav|strangler> :-D
[10:10] <pecisk> funkmaster: it hangs?
[10:10] <funkmaster>  i think the problem is with the desktop theme
[10:10] <variant> TC`: use sudo commandnamehere
[10:10] <funkmaster> yeah
[10:10] <variant> TC`: or type sudo -i
[10:10] <schopra> hckrsid: I've just stuck in a movie dvd
[10:10] <godmachine81> tritium:: your right.. i am volunteering to support people who use it. so?
[10:10] <eobanb> !flash
[10:10] <pecisk> funkmaster: you did upgrade?
[10:10] <funkmaster> it hangs, though mouse and command line work fine
[10:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:10] <funkmaster> yep did upgrade
[10:10] <Corbo> can someone help me with samba?
[10:10] <tritium> hmm, my right?  What does he mean?
[10:10] <funkmaster> had loads of problems but managed around them
[10:10] <schopra> Aha! this mounted
[10:10] <funkmaster> but now i'm stuck with this
[10:10] <schopra> But totem can't play it
[10:10] <Rav|strangler> ahhh
[10:10] <LjL> godmachine81: dunno, is the fact that i and two other people spent an hour today fixing someone's system that was messed up by automatix enough? just don't recommend it in here - period. you can use it if you're masochistic. don't tell others it's c00l and da best.
[10:11] <variant> tritium: that makes me want to rush out and try automatix.. (not)
[10:11] <Rav|strangler> now now
[10:11] <Rav|strangler> boys
[10:11] <pecisk> funkmaster: seems like fucked up home dir configuration, well, you should try to login from console, do a sudo bash, and then create new user
[10:11] <tritium> variant: :)
[10:11] <LjL> !language | percisk, please
[10:11] <ubotu> percisk, please: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:11] <Rav|strangler> I have enough to keep me busy
[10:11] <tritium> pecisk: language, dude
[10:11] <godmachine81> LjL:: did they follow the instructions ? and what package messed up their install?
[10:11] <_sanfordonyx_> where would be an appropriate place to store music/photos/videos/etc that i want writable for all users on my box? /usr, /opt, /?
[10:11] <funkmaster> pecisk: ok will try that but the default user ubuntu should that not work?
[10:11] <variant> _sanfordonyx_: /media/public is what i use
[10:12] <LjL> godmachine81: libc6 apparently - and no, he had installed the wrong version. i realize it's very hard to put a check for the correct content of /etc/issue, but -
[10:12] <eobanb> LjL and godmachine81, as far as i know we should just be referring people to #automatix if they want help with it, in order to compartmentalise its user base.  otherwise, everyone will expect support for it in this channel.
[10:12] <variant> _sanfordonyx_: or /media/media/media/media ;)
[10:12] <funkmaster> pecisk: ok will try that but the default user ubuntu should that not work?
[10:12] <pedrocr> I'm going to install a personal server. Should I use dapper or edgy?
[10:12] <tritium> pecisk: there you go, but please refrain from foul language
[10:12] <funkmaster> pecisk: the fail safe gnome session also does not load only puts me into the xterm
[10:13] <eobanb> pedrocr, it depends.
[10:13] <pecisk> funkmaster: only user you created should work, user ubuntu is for LiveCD
[10:13] <variant> pedrocr: if its just for fun then it does'nt matter, if you want/need stability and reliability then go for dapper, if you wnat to play around get edgy
[10:13] <_sanfordonyx_> variant: what an excellent idea. i am not used to this media dir. Thanks!
[10:13] <funkmaster> ah oki will try it out now
[10:13] <pedrocr> eobanb: is there any lace that explains it?
[10:13] <eobanb> pedrocr, if you don't mind maintaining it somewhat and if it's just to mostly play around with, then go with edgy.  if you need rock-solid stability, then go with dapper
[10:13] <eobanb> pedrocr, ?
[10:13] <pecisk> funkmaster: create new user from console and then try to login with that
[10:13] <TC`> !cd
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <pedrocr> eobanb: s/lace/place
[10:14] <variant> TC`: can i help you with somthing?
[10:14] <godmachine81> LjL:: see that is user error.. that can be done with anything
[10:14] <phire> I've got 2 mice pluged in, how do I edit my xorg.conf to only allow one mouse to move the mouse pointer?
[10:15] <godmachine81> LjL:: i could just as easily mess up an install using synaptic.. does that make it not supported in #ubuntu?  no..
[10:15] <LjL> godmachine81: could be. i'd put a check if it were me, but anyway. but the point is - don't recommend automatix in here. that's all.
[10:15] <variant> phire: change the part that says device /dev/input/mice to the actual /dev/ entry for your mouse
[10:15] <NoobUbuntu> Can somone please help with nvidia driver.
[10:15] <NoobUbuntu> Please
[10:15] <funkmaster> pecisk: do i need to reboot after i created the user?
[10:15] <variant> phire: like /dev/input/mice/mouse0 or whatever
[10:15] <phire> variant: Thanks
[10:15] <Ediehow> hi
[10:15] <LjL> godmachine81: if by "mess up" you mean add weird third party repositories, *yes* - but then we're usually nice and try to help anyway. but that's not the issue.
[10:15] <NoobUbuntu> I tried to follow hte guide for nvidia install and after that the X does nto start
[10:16] <Ediehow> ubuntu does not have ssh by default?
[10:16] <tritium> Ediehow: client, yes
[10:16] <variant> Ediehow: nope
[10:16] <godmachine81> heh
[10:16] <pecisk> funkmaster: can you switch to GDM by CTRL+ALT+F7?
[10:16] <variant> Ediehow: yeah, client. server no
[10:16] <funkmaster> yep
[10:16] <LjL> godmachine81: now i'll shut up though, because i'm just as offtopic as you here. just don't recommend its use.
[10:16] <Ediehow> what need i do to turn on sshd on ubuntu?
[10:16] <tritium> Ediehow: install openssh-server to get the server installed
[10:16] <morphish> score, finally got ndiswrapper working again, probably not the ubuntu way, but up is up ;)
[10:16] <variant> Ediehow: apt-get install ssh
[10:16] <justin420> NoobUbuntu: in the device section for driver does it say nvidia?
[10:16] <pecisk> funkmaster: do it and try to login
[10:16] <elite_hacker> how can I use apt to remove packages that are dependencies of packages that are no longer installed?
[10:16] <funkmaster> same behaviour
[10:16] <variant> Ediehow: what tritium said
[10:16] <godmachine81> LjL:: you ppl worry about offtopic stuff too much...  its just irc... we aint none getting paid to help these folks.
[10:16] <ianmacgregor> elite_hacker: You on Edgy?
[10:16] <funkmaster> just the mouse, which i can move
[10:17] <kodat> is there any way to change the look of a panel to something kinda like mac
[10:17] <NoobUbuntu> justin420 I am at a balck screen and I have no idea what to do here, it is command line based here
[10:17] <tritium> Ediehow: or what variant said.  they both work (openssh-server is a dependency of ssh)
[10:17] <funkmaster> btw i have a nvidia video card, if that maybe has anything to do with it?
[10:17] <godmachine81> at least you all better not be getting paid for this.. ive dedicated quiet a bit of time to helping people in here myself
[10:17] <variant> godmachine81: have you seen how busy this channel can get? if people didn't try to keep it on topic it would be utterly useless
[10:17] <elite_hacker> ianmacgregor: no
[10:17] <schopra> thanks for your help everyone
[10:17] <schopra> I appreciate it
[10:17] <variant> schopra: yw
[10:17] <eobanb> is the flashplugin-nonfree package flash 7, or 9? anyone know?
[10:17] <variant> schopra: did you fix it?
[10:17] <pedrocr> eobanb: how about hardware support in dapper? is new hardware support added?
[10:17] <variant> eobanb: 7
[10:17] <godmachine81> variant:: for 1084 peeps i would say it is not very busy at all
[10:17] <schopra> cheers, bye
[10:18] <justin420> NoobUbuntu: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for the device section, within that section there is a sub-section that has driver, make sure it says nvidia next to driver, not vesa not nv or anything else.
[10:18] <variant> godmachine81: Think about it, 95% of those people are discussing other things in other channels.. not all in #ubuntu at the same time..
[10:18] <funkmaster> when i run sudo apt-get upgrade i have some hold back packages...
[10:18] <wildchild> can someone help me with installing flashplugin-nonfree: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29206/
[10:18] <francesco_> italiano???
[10:18] <variant> godmachine81: ok, some are asleep :) anyway, this is also offtopic. So EOF
[10:18] <SirYes> funkmaster: you can try to temporarily move all your GNOME configration into a subdirectory and then start clean.
[10:19] <epp> wildchild, !automatix
[10:19] <woro2006> hey
[10:19] <epp> !automatix
[10:19] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[10:19] <funkmaster> u mean reinstall gnome?
[10:19] <LjL> godmachine81: what's hard in typing /join #ubuntu-offtopic ? it's also *easier* to talk, there.
[10:19] <pecisk> funkmaster: you should have done dist-upgrade
[10:19] <ilikecows> were can i locate soundmixer
[10:19] <funkmaster> yeah did that before
[10:19] <woro2006> can I make my machine a machine if I choose the desktop iso?
[10:19] <SirYes> funkmaster: no, start with your normal user, but a clean gnome "profile" :)
[10:19] <wildchild> epp: so ?
[10:19] <woro2006> machine a server*
[10:19] <pecisk> funkmaster: so new login didn't succeeded?
[10:19] <godmachine81> LjL:: i call that op trolling..
[10:19] <epp> wildchild, that can install flash 9 for you.
[10:20] <variant> godmachine81: I call this flaming :P
[10:20] <godmachine81> we all know that nobody joins #ubuntu-offtopic except for the ops in here...
[10:20] <JDahl> woro2006, yes,  you just install the packages you need for the server
[10:20] <wildchild> automatix is a package epp?
[10:20] <francesco_> qualcuno parla l'italiano????
[10:20] <woro2006> but would it be automatically configured?
[10:20] <NoobUbuntu> justin420 cam I talk to you in private please ?
[10:20] <woro2006> like the lamp?
[10:20] <variant> francesco_: #ubuntu-it
[10:20] <kodat> hummmm how to use utube without flash?
[10:20] <justin420> NoobUbuntu: sure
[10:20] <eobanb> kodat, you don't
[10:20] <variant> kodat: the videos are all encoded with flash, i dont think you can
[10:20] <epp> wildchild, go to ubuntuguide.com, look for the part about installing automatix
[10:20] <godmachine81> offtopic would be more like rambling about fishing and going to the store..   talking about ubuntu related issues is not offtopic.. if so where is the line drawn?
[10:20] <ilikecows> were can i locate soundmixer
[10:21] <variant> kodat: you might be able to downbload them in a different format though
[10:21] <kodat> variant, so then no you tube with linux?..or need opera
[10:21] <epp> !easyubuntu
[10:21] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:21] <variant> kodat: it works fine here
[10:21] <kodat> variant, ill reinstall flash..i just rather not even have it installed because it crashes my firefox
[10:21] <variant> kodat: youtube works fine here with flash7
[10:21] <NoobUbuntu> justin420 did you ge tmy pm ?
[10:21] <BooBar> anyone had any luck with "Reason" in Wine
[10:21] <SirYes> funkmaster: something like "mkdir ~/BACKUP; for f in ~/.g*; do mv $f ~/BACKUP; done" and then try to log in again
[10:21] <ianmacgregor> Someone needs to change the easyubuntu factoid.. freecontrib is no longer available. PLD Ubuntu project has shut down.
[10:21] <kodat> variant, id rather not have crashes and no flash heh
[10:21] <nashnash> plz help ^_^ .. i have scanjet 3970 scanner and i tried to install kooka or use the built in prog xsane but its still doesnt work.. do i need to install drivers to it? (btw i see the scanner on the device manager)
[10:22] <variant> kodat: yeah, flash sucks. it's a shame it is so nearly essential nowadays for browsing the web. I use flashblock firefox extention that allows me to only enable the flash bits that i want/need
[10:22] <variant> kodat: none of the adds etc, it doesnt even download them when blocked
[10:22] <ilikecows> were can i locate soundmixer
[10:22] <Corbo> can anyone talk me through setting up a single samba share with no authentication
[10:22] <kodat> variant, ah flashblock might do it..thats a good idea
[10:22] <variant> ilikecows: in the menu
[10:22] <pecisk> nashnash: have you added yourself to scan workgroup?
[10:22] <kodat> variant, i used flashblock when i had windows
[10:22] <ilikecows> can u expand that
[10:23] <noelferreira> lupine_85: are you there?
[10:23] <nashnash> pecisk?
[10:23] <nashnash> what scan workgroup ? and where do i add it
[10:23] <pecisk> ilikecows: in GNOME, you can find it, by clicking second (alternative) button on small speaker in upper right, and open sound control
[10:23] <noelferreira> can anyone help me eith rt61 wireless driver?
[10:23] <LjL> godmachine81: there is 136 people in -offtopic. we definitely don't have 136 ops.
[10:24] <pecisk> nashnash: System => Administration => Users and groups
[10:24] <variant> ilikecows: see the speaker in the panel? right click it
[10:24] <asdfghjkl> damn my nick is still online
[10:24] <godmachine81> LjL:: ok..
[10:24] <asdfghjkl> well this is funkmaster
[10:24] <nashnash> thx prcisk ill try right away
[10:24] <asdfghjkl> i was asking about this upgrade problem
[10:24] <c0nf> hiya :)
[10:24] <asdfghjkl> so the suggestion was to resintall gnome?
[10:24] <pecisk> nashnash: open and edit your user and specify rights so you can use scanners on that system
[10:24] <talldave2002> i have just clean installed dapper, upgraded to edgy and installed the nvidia drivers via envy, and still have errors. any ideas?
[10:24] <c0nf> any edy x64 users? :)
[10:25] <c0nf> edgy*
[10:25] <schizm> synaptic only shows up to 3.4 for g++ yet I have 4.1 installed for the rest of the GCC Suite.  Do I need a special repository to get into any sort of contemporary G++?
[10:25] <c0nf> i want to know if there is some problems with it :)
[10:25] <asdfghjkl> can i not somehow fix it? and which files do i need to backup if i wanna do it?
[10:25] <c0nf> what is not working etc
[10:25] <ianmacgregor> asdfghjkl: /msg nickserv help ghost ?
[10:25] <asdfghjkl> ah thx
[10:25] <variant> kodat: flashblock, adblock, noscript. the three essential firefox extensions
[10:25] <kodat> variant, heh yah
[10:25] <KGnome> how do i install an ISA NIC
[10:25] <Andrew67> variant: doesnt noscript also block flash?
[10:25] <variant> c0nf: everything works fine here, better than ever. some people have reported different issues though most can probably be put down to user error as they all seem to be different
[10:26] <c0nf> variant: do you have nvidia graphic card?
[10:26] <funkmaster> ok awsome
[10:26] <variant> Andrew67: not alwasy
[10:26] <c0nf> use* :)
[10:26] <rudiz> ctrl+alt+f1 does not work
[10:26] <funkmaster> so back to stupid edgy upgrade
[10:26] <variant> c0nf: nope, ati with free software drivers
[10:26] <rudiz> in edgy
[10:26] <c0nf> variant: does flash works?
[10:26] <funkmaster> how do i get my desktop to load again?
[10:26] <variant> c0nf: yep
[10:26] <variant> c0nf: see rudiz's comment as proof of my point :)
[10:26] <pecisk> c0nf: flash definetly works, if installed correctly :)
[10:27] <xpc> !hu
[10:27] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[10:27] <pecisk> mn
[10:27] <c0nf> pecisk: installed correctly? :x dont u install it like just 'Install missing plugins' @ firefox
[10:27] <c0nf> variant: thanks for the help :) now i need to get correct answer @ forum about nvidia drivers and im good to go :)
[10:27] <pecisk> c0nf: of course not
[10:27] <c0nf> :x
[10:27] <morfic> what is the ubuntu way of running a script on startup, ie. what file do i add that to?
[10:27] <c0nf> how come :) i installed it like that @ 6.06.1
[10:27] <pecisk> c0nf: I use Ubuntu Universe/Multiverse repositories
[10:27] <nashnash> i try to open Xsane image scanner and it writes me "No devices available" , reasons may be: there is rly no device supported by sane .. i installed sane like this (sudo apt-get install sane) .
[10:28] <ianmacgregor> funkmaster: What do yo mean about your desktop?
[10:28] <iLikeSpoons> so, I'm guessing you are getting this question a lot these days, but, I just upgraded to edgy and, when I restarted the machine, I got "the nautilus has quit unexpectedly" error dialog that won't go away. Any help on that, or should I just learn to live without it until the bug is fixed
[10:28] <pecisk> nashnash: did you have scanning rights enabled where I told you so?
[10:28] <funkmaster> ianmacgregor
[10:28] <funkmaster> ok i upgraded
[10:28] <nashnash> pecisk i added group "scanner" to my user
[10:28] <variant> iLikeSpoons: this is the first i have heard of it
[10:28] <pecisk> nashnash: do a relogin
[10:28] <pecisk> nashnash: and then do xsane again
[10:28] <c0nf> pecisk: if my way wont work, which cmd do i need to use, to install flash? :) sudo apt-get install ???
[10:29] <nashnash> ok thx sec
[10:29] <iLikeSpoons> variant: a friend and I just updated today, we both get the same problem
[10:29] <woro2006> are most ubuntu packages binary packages?
[10:29] <iLikeSpoons> and, there are a few threads on the forum about it (with no workarounds or anything)
[10:29] <woro2006> or do I have to compile them?
[10:29] <pecisk> c0nf: you should enable Universe/Multiverse in System > Administration > Software Sources
[10:29] <funkmaster> ianmcgregor: had loads of problems and got it to work so far to boot etc goes to login screen then i add user and pass then it loads but does nothing i ony see the mouse with the red background but console works fine
[10:29] <phire> woro2006 all compiled
[10:29] <c0nf> pecisk: i have enabled them :)
[10:29] <pecisk> c0nf: then it will ask for reloading lists
[10:29] <variant> iLikeSpoons: sorry, keep an eye on the forums then and post your updated info. try doing a new upgrade
[10:29] <pecisk> c0nf: and then install flash-nonfree
[10:30] <variant> iLikeSpoons: i mean, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade again
[10:30] <phire> unless you enable the source reposties
[10:30] <c0nf> pecisk: why -nonfree? :)
[10:30] <woro2006> phire, by all compiled, you mean binaries right?
[10:30] <phire> yes
[10:30] <pecisk> or install it trough Add/Remove in Applications
[10:30] <woro2006> good
[10:30] <ianmacgregor> funkmaster: Do your panels load?
[10:30] <iLikeSpoons> variant, I just did it, upgrade reported nothing new to install
[10:30] <woro2006> some guy couldn't answer my question before
[10:30] <variant> iLikeSpoons: ok
[10:30] <pecisk> c0nf: it indicates it comes from nonfree repositories of Debian
[10:30] <c0nf> pecisk: ok, thanks for the help..
[10:30] <iLikeSpoons> I'll look around some more on the forums and bug reports
[10:30] <woro2006> how do I install lamp in ubuntu?
[10:30] <funkmaster> ianmcgregor: no
[10:31] <c0nf> btw, do u u have nvidia graphic card ?^^ cant find a edgy x64 user, which has nvidia graphic card :x
[10:31] <woro2006> do I have to configure and install the packages individually?
[10:31] <funkmaster> and when i try the fail safe gnome it just opens the xterm terminal
[10:31] <phire> Its all automatic
[10:31] <pecisk> c0nf: I have a nvidia at work, but I have no x64 systems there, sorry
[10:31] <woro2006> ok
[10:31] <woro2006> thx
[10:31] <c0nf> mehhh ;)
[10:31] <kodat> lol damnit
[10:31] <kodat> i hate flash
[10:31] <phire> just sudo apt-get install package
[10:31] <pecisk> kodat: flash must die
[10:32] <c0nf> aaa, pecisk: does sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg works for you?
[10:32] <noelferreira> people who can help me with rt61 driver?
[10:32] <kodat> pecisk, i cant get to legitreviews.com
[10:32] <TC`> it says to me mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:32] <kodat> pecisk, instantly crashes firefox
[10:32] <TC`> when i type sudo mount -o loop tda-pcs2.cue /mnt/
[10:32] <pecisk> TC`: what command do you do?
[10:32] <feydin> hey is there an 64 bit version of xvidcap for ubuntu available?
[10:32] <pecisk> kodat: it is less to do with Flash itself than buggy and crashy Flash movies
[10:32] <pecisk> afaik
[10:33] <phire> noelferreira: what do you need help with?
[10:33] <kodat> pecisk, i cant get to anything now, im gona remove flash AGAIN lolz
[10:33] <noelferreira> phire: i can scan my essid
[10:33] <pecisk> kodat: why you can't?
[10:33] <noelferreira> but i can't get ip
[10:33] <pecisk> session restore?
[10:33] <kodat> pecisk, any webpage that has any flash, while i have flash installed just instantly crashes my fox
[10:33] <pecisk> ohhh dear
[10:33] <phire> can you set it with iwconfig?
[10:34] <pecisk> talk about viral nature
[10:34] <pecisk> :)
[10:34] <noelferreira> yes but i get no ip with dhclient
[10:34] <c0nf> pecisk: sorry for bothering you, but does 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' works for you?
[10:34] <pecisk> kodat: I really don't know what to do in your scenario
[10:34] <kodat> pecisk, just not have flash = (
[10:34] <pecisk> c0nf: of course, why ask?
[10:34] <kodat> pecisk, or install opera
[10:34] <c0nf> pecisk: cuz in i386 edgy it hangs after i chose video card name :x
[10:34] <c0nf> on*
[10:34] <pecisk> kodat: I really don't think that those crashes are only Firefox fault
[10:35] <kodat> pecisk, i blame the fox for being fiery
[10:35] <phire> ferreirrira: do you have encryption?
[10:35] <pecisk> c0nf: never had such problem
[10:35] <noelferreira> no i don't phire
[10:35] <c0nf> pecisk: on 6.06.1 i didnt have such problem too :)
[10:35] <Howdy125> Did someone kill the easyubuntu site ;-/
[10:35] <funkmaster> has anyone a suggestion how i can fix this upgrade desktop not loading problem?
[10:36] <ianmacgregor> Howdy125: http://plf.zarb.org
[10:36] <underlined> Hi, plz I have a pc which doesn't boot from a cdrom. Is it possible to install ubunto on it using floppy?
[10:36] <Howdy125> ty ianmacgregor
[10:36] <c0nf> O_O
[10:36] <phire> in iwconfig,  does it say a link quality?
[10:36] <elw> how do you get started with motu? I want to help.
[10:36] <pecisk> underlined: yes, it is, do a google for it
[10:36] <sidewalk> hey
[10:36] <sidewalk> i just installed the latest ubuntu
[10:36] <babwe2> can someone pls supply me ith a link for a live cd for ubuntu
[10:36] <ianmacgregor> !motu
[10:36] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[10:36] <dave> kodat: I had the same problem on a fresh install of Ubuntu 6.1 with Firefox 2, it was when I installed the Macromedia flash player that Firefox started crashing, the only way to stop it was to disable javascript
[10:36] <sidewalk> is there some smooth way of getting beryl workin?
[10:36] <CarinArr> i'm not sur ewhy, but since i upgraded from dapper, my desktop boot time has sky rocketed
[10:36] <noelferreira> no , just mode frequency ap and rts
[10:36] <crimsun> justin420: -kernel is for development discussion _only_, hence why I requested you ask here.
[10:36] <noelferreira> no signal
[10:37] <pecisk> CarinArr: upstart :)
[10:37] <dbmonk74> Does anIs anyone able to assist on a screen resolution issue?
[10:37] <justin420> hi all. when following the directions on http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Kernel_Compilation_Dapper ; one of the very first steps says to change in your xorg.conf file, the device section from "nvidia" or "fglrx" to vesa or ati or nv, I tried using nv and vesa and both times it says that device is already in use? can anyone help with that?
[10:37] <kingos> hello, is there a plan to release a new version of binutils for edgy? I am a c++ developer, and there is an important bug in binutils (3111) that makes edgy almost unuseable for development ...
[10:37] <CarinArr> pecisk, well yeah, but it's supposed to be faster isn't it?;)
[10:37] <kodat> dave, oh, i dont even know how to disable java script = (
[10:37] <pecisk> CarinArr: yep
[10:37] <funkmaster> :'(
[10:38] <nashnash> pecisk
[10:38] <TC`> pecisk?
[10:38] <TC`> :D
[10:38] <pedrocr> for a server, should I use amd64 or is it a safer bet to use the regular x86 distro?
[10:38] <moiph> nevermind, seems that amarok is just a bit buggy; i set global keys to standard keys and then back to media keys
[10:38] <funkmaster> damn i wish i would have never tried to upgrade
[10:38] <moiph> and now they work
[10:38] <situmam> Hey guys. I need to file a bug against the kernel in edgy 2.6.17-generic. where do I do that ?
[10:38] <CarinArr> whereas it's just got really slow, goes abut a third of the status bar then hangs.. and goes back into a console with a load of fsck being done every time i reboot
[10:38] <Vladaz> hello
[10:38] <pecisk> nashnash: yes?
[10:38] <crimsun> kingos: we're in the process of bootstrapping Feisty. It's unlikely binutils will have a StableReleaseUpdate (SRU) unless it's dire. Check the wiki for instructions.
[10:38] <TC`> so can you sugest something for .cue?
[10:38] <pecisk> TC`: bchunk
[10:38] <Vladaz> when I boot my ubuntu it gives me this:
[10:38] <Vladaz> [17179572.380000]  crc error
[10:38] <Vladaz> [17179572.380000]  Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[10:38] <Vladaz> [17179572.380000] 
[10:38] <Vladaz> whats wrong?
[10:38] <pecisk> TC`: use it to convert to iso
[10:38] <phire> ferreirrira: you could try static, ifconfig ra0 up 192.168.0.5
[10:38] <Vladaz> can anyone help me please?
[10:38] <crimsun> justin420: and what's grabbing /dev/nvidiactl* or whatever? Use lsof or fuser.
[10:38] <dave> kodat: In firefox, go to Edit, Preferences and then the Content tab, there's an option to select/deselct javascript
[10:38] <noelferreira> don't work phire
[10:39] <kodat> dave, alright lets see
[10:39] <bassM> Hi, just did a clean install and noticed copying files in nautilus is freakishly slow (1m 16s for 200mb of mp3:s) while using the console to copy (cp) works normally (7s). Anyone experiencing this?
[10:39] <Tomcat_> situmam: Go to launchpad.net, Ubuntu distro, then search for the appropriate package (linux-image-something) and then press "Bugs" on the left side.
[10:39] <capgadget> Booting ubuntu after doing what Vladaz?
[10:39] <nashnash> pecisk its still not working but now i came back with screenshot ^^
[10:39] <nashnash> these are the reasons
[10:39] <capgadget> You change th ekernel?
[10:39] <nashnash> http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4374/screenshot1af6.png
[10:39] <situmam> Tomcat_: thanks dude
[10:39] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Vladaz about paste
[10:39] <Vladaz> i installed ubuntu 6.10
[10:39] <gnomefreak> !bugs
[10:39] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:39] <CarinArr> noelferreira, what wireless card are you using?
[10:39] <kingos> crimsun: what is dire? 15 minute linking of c++ programs with debug info!
[10:39] <NoobUbuntu> Can someone please help. I tried to install nvidia driver according to ubuntu guide and after that x did not start. I typed in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it asked me many question and I enterd wrong values, i had no idea what to put. Now x started but wrong resoluiton and x is configured wrongly I think. Do i reinstall ubuntu ? I am a new user. Please help.
[10:39] <Anderz> can you controll the order modules loades? I think my tvcard gets loaded first and gets dsp and my soundcard gets dsp1 so my sound doesn't work
[10:39] <kodat> dave, no dice, still crash
[10:39] <capgadget> cd install Vladaz?
[10:39] <crimsun> kingos: that's _annoying_, yes. It doesn't hard-freeze your system -- that's dire.
[10:40] <Vladaz> yeah
[10:40] <gnomefreak> NoobUbuntu: no no need to reinstall ubuntu
[10:40] <c0nf> nashnash: did you try to run it as root?
[10:40] <kodat> dave, should i disable both of the java options
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[10:40] <crimsun> kingos: in any case, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[10:40] <nashnash> to run what as root?
[10:40] <gnomefreak> NoobUbuntu: what nvidia card do you have?
[10:40] <LjL> NoobUbuntu: the dpkg-reconfigure has saved a backup of your previous xorg.conf, search for it in /etc/X11/  --- it will be called xorg.conf.somedateandtime
[10:40] <talldave2002> NoobUbuntu: having the exact same problem, no one else seems to be though
[10:40] <pecisk> nashnash: ok, clear
[10:40] <Vladaz> actualy, before i had 6.06  and with that one it works ok, but after update to a new kernel, it gives the same thing
[10:40] <c0nf> nashnash: that sane or whatever?
[10:40] <pecisk> nashnash: let's look closer
[10:40] <morfic> ahh nice, good ol' rc.local, had totally missed that
[10:40] <crimsun> kingos: that's the procedure we use.
[10:40] <NoobUbuntu> gnomefreak NvidiGo 6600
[10:40] <Comrade_S> anyone knows if Egdy Eft ships with AIGLX?
[10:40] <nashnash> pecisk k ;)
[10:40] <pecisk> nashnash: give me please model and number again
[10:40] <feydin> is there a 64 bit version of xvidcap?
[10:40] <crimsun> Comrade_S: enabled by default, yes.
[10:40] <kingos> crimsun: okay. means I will probably have to switch distros though, and anyone else who does c++ dev?
[10:40] <LjL> NoobUbuntu: you can restore it, and run the dpkg-reconfigure again. the only thing you probably really need to change is the driver ("nv" to "nvidia"), and press Enter to the other questions
[10:40] <gnomefreak> NoobUbuntu: what nvidia driver did you install and how?
[10:40] <nashnash> modem and number ? of what? ^^
[10:40] <nashnash> model
[10:40] <c0nf> scanner
[10:40] <pecisk> nashnash: of scanner
[10:40] <nashnash> aah
[10:41] <nashnash> ye lol.. sorry im a bit high now ^^
[10:41] <nashnash> hmm
[10:41] <capgadget> Vladaz what type FS  ext3 or did you change it?
[10:41] <dave> kodat: that was my only solution, I only disabled the javascript & it worked ok for me (in that firefox didn't crash), but javascript webpages wouldn't work
[10:41] <nashnash> hp scanjet 3970
[10:41] <crimsun> kingos: read and follow the SRU link I pointed you to, and you might possibly get it fixed for Edgy.
[10:41] <Vladaz> ext3
[10:41] <capgadget> You didn't change fstab?
[10:41] <kodat> dave, yah ~_~ even though i dont even know which pages use java script
[10:41] <NoobUbuntu> gnomefreak I used official nvidia gudie
[10:41] <Vladaz> its on hda3 and swap is on hda4
[10:41] <kingos> crimsun: thanks
[10:41] <Vladaz> no i just did a fresh install
[10:41] <bassM> anyone? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288203
[10:41] <gnomefreak> NoobUbuntu: did you isntall them from apt-get?
[10:41] <shira> Hi, does anyone know where I can set the compiler and linker options on Anjuta 2.0.2 beta?
[10:41] <LjL> !nvidia | NoobUbuntu, this one?
[10:41] <ubotu> NoobUbuntu, this one?: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:41] <dbmonk74> I'm trying to figure out how to install a graphics driver for an Intel 82865G graphics controller for ubuntu so I can get a higher resolution than 640x480x16 - I'm completely hooked on ubuntu already, and I'm dying to make this work - but I'm at a loss as to what to do past downloading the package
[10:41] <Vladaz> ive also got windows on the same hdd but it should do any trouble
[10:41] <kodat> dave, still crash either way though..so im gona uninstall java once i figure out where the mozilla folder its installed to
[10:42] <elw> is there a current / accurate custom kernel guide for edgy eft?
[10:42] <NoobUbuntu> gnomefreak no the package manger is what I use, I am a new user to linux- ubuntu so i need visual simple stuff
[10:42] <gnomefreak> NoobUbuntu: good
[10:42] <capgadget> Doesn't matter ubuntu handles other OS in grub just fine.  Better than fedora.
[10:42] <NoobUbuntu> gnomefreak yes this guide
[10:42] <funkmaster> ok in edgy should there be something in ~/.config/ besides menus and Thunar?
[10:42] <gnomefreak> NoobUbuntu: are you on dapper?
[10:42] <Vladaz> so how can i fix it
[10:42] <phire> ferreirrira: try sudo rmmod rt61 then sudo modprobe rt61, sometimes that fixes it
[10:42] <NoobUbuntu> gnomefreak Ubuntu 6.10
[10:42] <Vladaz> i really like ubuntu, tried other distributions and ubuntu i liked most
[10:42] <capgadget> Have your tried booting again?  Maybe it is just a spurious error.
[10:42] <Vladaz> yeah
[10:42] <Vladaz> lots of times
[10:43] <capgadget> Hmm
[10:43] <gnomefreak> NoobUbuntu: ok in terminal type sudo nvidia-glz-config enable
[10:43] <Vladaz> recovery thingy as well, it did the same but it showed some more stuff and then written this message
[10:43] <capgadget> Does it kernel panic immediately?
[10:43] <Vladaz> with normal one - yeah
[10:43] <acidt> yooo i really need help :P
[10:43] <Vladaz> with recovery - it shows some other messages of loadng stuff etc
[10:43] <funkmaster> ok in edgy should there be something in ~/.config/ besides menus and Thunar? my desktop does not load
[10:43] <Tim90> pov: you here
[10:44] <acidt> i entered sudo ln -sf bash /bin/bash
[10:44] <c0nf> acidt, Acid?
[10:44] <c0nf> :O
[10:44] <acidt> and my system is f*ed
[10:44] <pecisk> nashnash: seems like not supported scanner, at least at first glance - http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html
[10:44] <acidt> any idea how to fix it
[10:44] <dave> kodat: can't help anymore, i had a clean install so i did a fresh install and just haven't install Flash player again, its only my second day using ubuntu after Slackware, so I haven't much of an idea about it yet
[10:44] <jasey> hello, im getting X errors. it keeps saying "Can not open default font 'fixed'". how do i remedy this? thanks :)
[10:44] <POVaddct> Tim90: yes
[10:44] <gnomefreak> acidt: why are you making a sym link to bash?
[10:44] <kodat> dave, yeah this is day 3 of ubuntu for me
[10:44] <nashnash> well pecisk my printer is not supported @ hplip and it still works lol
[10:44] <acidt> gnomefreak: cause thats what it says in a tutorial
[10:45] <nashnash> but it must use sane? there isnt smting else?
[10:45] <justin420> crimsun: lsof and sudo lsof and looked at everything and did not see /dev/nvidiactrl or whatever
[10:45] <gnomefreak> acidt: for what?
[10:45] <acidt> on installing ati drivers lol
[10:45] <Tim90> My windows media/winxp/ has no files, i dont a reboot
[10:45] <acidt> but thats not the case right now lol
[10:45] <pecisk> nashnash: first, check out HP home page of that scanner
[10:45] <acidt> the system is f* and i cant even log in to it
[10:45] <POVaddct> Tim90: mount /media/winxp
[10:45] <pecisk> it is saying something about drivers or something
[10:45] <nashnash> ill google it sec
[10:45] <Tim90> that easy huh ?
[10:45] <pecisk> nashnash: yes, it can be clearly possible that it works, just not by default
[10:46] <POVaddct> Tim90: yeah, i put it in fstab
[10:46] <henke> Anderz: use sysv-rc-conf -p
[10:46] <CarinArr> oh great.. it's not just me, it's an actual filed bug the fsck thing
[10:46] <capgadget> One sec
[10:46] <pecisk> nashnash: SANE is scanner system, usually vendors when provides drivers, it provides for this system
[10:46] <gnomefreak> acidt: i would say get rid of the symlink for starters
[10:46] <elw> um, how do you use irssi
[10:46] <Tim90> great work
[10:46] <acidt> gnomefreak: how?
[10:46] <c0nf> elw: type in terminal irssi?
[10:46] <acidt> gnomefreak: i cant do anything on the box right now
[10:46] <dave> Hi, will K3b work ok on Ubuntu under Gnome? or what is the comparable Gnome based package?
[10:46] <acidt> gnomefreak: i using livecd :p
[10:46] <CarinArr> dave, it'll work fine
[10:46] <VanessaE> probably gtoaster
[10:47] <ianmacgregor> dave: Yes, k3b works fine in gnome
[10:47] <curley_sue> hi all how do I know which kernel to use i386 or i686 (HP pavilion ze2070ea)
[10:47] <VanessaE> but k3b should work as long as you have the proper kde libs installed.
[10:47] <gnomefreak> acidt: go into /bin/bash and get rid of the one you just made
[10:47] <capgadget> Vladaz see my other chat window?
[10:47] <acidt> umm how can i do that
[10:47] <Vladaz> where?
[10:47] <Vladaz> private one?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> LjL: you know anything about widescreen laptop res?
[10:48] <curley_sue> secondly - is there a way to run configuration of X ? I have some major errors due to bad upgrading process (from dapper to edgy)
[10:48] <acidt> gnomefreak:  im using live cd right now :|
[10:48] <dave> ok, thanks all, i'll install it
[10:48] <gnomefreak> acidt: shouldnt matter you should still beable to get into it and see it
[10:48] <nbx909> !xserver-xorg
[10:48] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 164 kB, installed size 584 kB
[10:48] <nbx909> er
[10:48] <LjL> gnomefreak: err, no, but i can tell you everything about 11" 286 laptop LCD screens with 20 or so broken pixels, if you like :P
[10:48] <nbx909> !xorg
[10:48] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:48] <LjL> gnomefreak: i meant 486 actually, though
[10:48] <dbmonk74> Is anyone able to assist me with figuring out why I cannot change from 640x480x16 - using 6.06 and an Intel 82865G
[10:48] <VanessaE> haha
[10:49] <james|date> can i put a linux distro that is supposed to be on a cd onto a dvd?
[10:49] <nbx909> james|date, yes
[10:49] <james|date> awesome
[10:49] <james|date> thanks
[10:49] <nbx909> it's just a waste of space
[10:49] <nbx909> lol
[10:49] <nashnash> well presick maybe my sane installation (sudo apt-get install sane) caused the problem? cuz one of the problems there in the popup: "possibly there is more than one SANE insalled"
[10:49] <godmachine81> gnomefreak:: your res should be in the ratio that 1280x800 uses if its widescreen
[10:50] <elw_> is anyone here in the motu?
[10:50] <LjL> elw_: perhaps try the MOTU channel
[10:50] <godmachine81> elw_:: #ubuntu-motu
[10:50] <elw_> thanks
[10:50] <crimsun> justin420: look in /dev
[10:50] <curley_sue> !X
[10:50] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:50] <ecstazee> hi
[10:51] <ecstazee> need some help guys
[10:51] <justin420> crimsun: /dev/nvidiactl and /dev/nvidia0 are there...
[10:51] <ecstazee> i cant mount my partitions
[10:51] <crimsun> justin420: then look at /dev/nvidia0
[10:52] <justin420> crimsun: sudo lsof no listings at all for /dev/nvidia*
[10:52] <RandomDude16> im getting errors
[10:52] <RandomDude16> nvm
[10:53] <crimsun> justin420: what's the refcount according to lsmod?
[10:53] <sanmarcos> there is package xyz on debian, but I installed my own rolled xyz package, how can I make to that apt doesnt bother me about updating to official xy
[10:54] <kodat> is it possible to make ubuntu panels look similar to like mac or windows..just curious
[10:54] <justin420> crimsun: ok easy there, im still sorta new, that means? do lsmod and look for all nvidia modules?
[10:54] <funkmaster> someone else got an idea for my upgrade to edgy problem,desktop wont load...
[10:54] <james|date> im about to get rid of xp and dual boot ubuntu with 2k3 whiich one should i do first?
[10:54] <timhaughton> Any here use TorrentFlux with the standard LAMP install? Is is straigh forward? Does it just work after install?
[10:54] <justin420> sensord   5421       root  mem       REG    3,2  163920   1101313 /usr/lib/libsensors.so.3.0.9
[10:54] <justin420> sensord   5421       root  mem       REG    3,2   86404   2125782 /lib/ld-2.3.6.so
[10:54] <justin420> sensord   5421       root NOFD                                    /proc/5421/fd (opendir: Permission denied)
[10:54] <justin420> smbd      5424       root  cwd   unknown                          /proc/5424/cwd (readlink: Permission denied)
[10:54] <justin420> smbd      5424       root  rtd   unknown                          /proc/5424/root (readlink: Permission denied)
[10:54] <justin420> smbd      5424       root  txt   unknown                          /proc/5424/exe (readlink: Permission denied)
[10:54] <justin420> smbd      5424       root  mem       REG    3,2 2951980   1101345 /usr/sbin/smbd
[10:54] <justin420> smbd      5424       root  mem       REG    0,0                 0 [heap]  (stat: No such file or directory)
[10:54] <justin420> smbd      5424       root  mem       REG    3,2   37432   2128956 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libnss_files-2.3.6.so
[10:54] <justin420> smbd      5424       root  mem       REG    3,2   33616   2128960 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libnss_nis-2.3.6.so
[10:55] <justin420> shit, sorry all
[10:55] <poningru> woah
[10:55] <kitche> !paste > justin420
[10:55] <poningru> justin420: whats wrong?
[10:55] <poningru> !paste | justin420
[10:55] <ubotu> justin420: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:56] <godmachine81> gnomefreak:: widescreen laptop should keep a 8:5 aspect ratio
[10:56] <justin420> !thanks | ubotu
[10:56] <ubotu> ubotu: Thanks for the help!
[10:56] <gnomefreak> godmachine81: its not mine
[10:56] <dbmonk74> how do I "include the 'universe' repository"?
[10:57] <godmachine81> dbmonk74:: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:58] <TC`> what emulator use for .exe (windows?
[10:58] <godmachine81> on add multiverse universe after main on all the lines
[10:58] <lupine_85> TC`: wine
[10:58] <dbmonk74> thanks godmachine :)
[10:58] <godmachine81> -on
[10:58] <jeeves_Moss> all:  can any one help me with a few problems I'm having with 6.06?   I thought it was to have animated window changine, etc.  Insted, I got a "fisher Price" interface that looks more like a bad hack of windows
[10:58] <lupine_85> but Wine is not an Emulator
[10:58] <TC`> he ment Vine
[10:58] <TC`> ;] 
[10:58] <TC`> :D
[10:58] <Tokenbad> anyone here ever install hydra?
[10:58] <godmachine81> dbmonk74:: then do sudo apt-get update
[10:58] <lupine_85> jeeves_Moss: beryl is going to be in feisty by default
[10:58] <slinky_> hello, i'm using Dapper Drake and i installed two packages using Synaptic, scrabble and bkp and neither one show up in my menues, any ideas?
[10:58] <lupine_85> i.e. 7.04
[10:59] <jeeves_Moss> lupine_85:  I have no idea of what you just said
[10:59] <godmachine81> lupine_85:: has #ubuntu+1 even opened yet?
[10:59] <godmachine81> nope :(
[10:59] <lupine_85> your cute windows etc. They'll be in feisty by default
[10:59] <lupine_85> until then, you have to DIY
[10:59] <godmachine81> lupine_85:: where you getting your info?
[10:59] <nbx909> slinky_, open up a terminal and go type scrabble or bkp and it should install
[10:59] <lupine_85> !DIY
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DIY - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <aivegas> any of you guys running ati x1k cards?  i was wondering if ubuntu would work with my x1900's
[10:59] <justin420> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29220/
[10:59] <lupine_85> bah
[10:59] <slinky_> thank you
[10:59] <godmachine81> lupine_85:: i have a modified easyubuntu to grab beryl
[10:59] <godmachine81> and emerald
[11:00] <godmachine81> i had to hack it to work with edgy
[11:00] <softmaster>  is there any player supports subtitles with rmvb files on kubuntu? please
[11:00] <fredsa> oh well, back with a clean dapper install. That upgrade totally toasted my system :p
[11:00] <lupine_85> godmachine81: ... seems a bit weird. How does it detect and configure the graphics?
[11:00] <jeeves_Moss> nbx909
[11:00] <nbx909> jeeves_Moss, yes?
[11:00] <aivegas> i've never used linux before, tried to install gentoo a few months back and the livecd's kept hanging, everybody seems to think it was because of my vid cards or my chipset
[11:00] <lupine_85> or does it just dump the repo  in and do the install?
[11:01] <jeeves_Moss> nbx909:  any ideas on enabling the cool graphical features on the upgrade?
[11:01] <godmachine81> lupine_85:: it uses your xorg settings because xorg has aiglx built in now
[11:01] <nbx909> jeeves_Moss, what do you mean?
[11:01] <lupine_85> ...which doesn't work with the nvidia and fglrx drivers included in edgy...
[11:01] <webmaren> i'm having sound problems
[11:01] <godmachine81> it doesnt work with nvidia?
[11:02] <lupine_85> not the 8xxx series, no
[11:02] <godmachine81> nice to know that
[11:02] <lupine_85> hence why !nvidiabeta exists
[11:02] <godmachine81> i use intel 915mobile
[11:02] <godmachine81> so i dont know about that
[11:02] <lupine_85> but automagically installing that on a user's system without consent would be a B A D idea ;)
[11:02] <jeeves_Moss> nbx909:  wasen't there to be graphical switching between program windows and desktops?  (like the Mac system does), as well, as how do I free up some space?  before I installed this update, I had lots of free space, now I've got 2% free.  is there a way of cleaning up the unused previous installs?
[11:02] <hackel_> Heh, why is the ubuntu wiki randomly redirecting me to an Italian page?
[11:02] <lupine_85> jeeves_Moss: apt-cache clean
[11:02] <lupine_85> as for pretty graphics, #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl
[11:02] <NoobUbuntu> LjL
[11:03] <lupine_85> read the topic, do the wiki
[11:03] <SlyGuy_> hmmm how do i kill the upgrde process gracefully?
[11:03] <ivx> hey what is the command to launch the nautlis as sudo?
[11:03] <lupine_85> SlyGuy_: has it started installing the packages yet, or is it still downloading?
[11:03] <webmaren> i'm on dapper, and i can't get either my monitor speakers or my headset to work
[11:03] <seron> Anyone knows how to get the resolution 1280x800 to work on Edgy? Made it work on Dapper by installing 915resolution but it doesn't work now.
[11:03] <SlyGuy_> its still downloading
[11:03] <jeeves_Moss> lupine_85:  it says "invalid operation" when I use that command
[11:03] <lupine_85> then ctrl+c
[11:03] <matthew_w> Hey uh, how do I check my uptime?
[11:04] <justin420> noobubuntu: did you get it figured out finally? i messaged ya and you never answered...
[11:04] <lupine_85> ah, sorry. sudo apt-get clean
[11:04] <ivx> matthew_w do you mean you upstream internet speed
[11:04] <lupine_85> d'oh
[11:04] <nashnash> where is the scan button @ kooka? , i will appriciate it if someone could took a screenshot, i think i have prob with the drivers and not with the prog
[11:04] <SlyGuy_> lupine: ctrl-c?
[11:04] <justin420> matthew_w: uptime
[11:04] <webmaren> i'm on dapper, and i can't get either my monitor speakers or my headset to work
[11:04] <lupine_85> yes - just kill the program
[11:04] <jeeves_Moss> lupine_85:  it looks to have worked.  what did that do?
[11:05] <lupine_85> apt-get doesn't care whem it's downloading
[11:05] <lupine_85> jeeves_Moss: ubuntu archives all the .deb files it downloads
[11:05] <SlyGuy_> i'll have to kill the actual process
[11:05] <lupine_85> I'm not sure why - but it does, and it eats loads of space
[11:05] <seron> Anyone knows how to get the resolution 1280x800 to work on Edgy? Made it work on Dapper by installing 915resolution but it doesn't work now.
[11:05] <lupine_85> SlyGuy_: sudo killall <progname> then :)
[11:05] <juaaaa> hello copy in his msn leandrosanchez_6072hotmail.com
[11:05] <jeeves_Moss> lupine_85:  is there anything else it can clean out?  this is a small partition on this laptop, and 5.6Gb dosen't go too far
[11:06] <SlyGuy_> damn wth is the process called
[11:06] <nikosapi> Err, I upgraded from dapper to edgy yesterday and now openoffice won't start up, I've deleted ~/.openoffice.org2 and still nothing. When I start it from a terminal there's no output, just the openoffice loading box on my desktop. Help?
[11:06] <lupine_85> jeeves_Moss: a normal ubuntu install will typically take less than 2GB
[11:06] <lupine_85> SlyGuy_: ps aux
[11:06] <lupine_85> then you can kill <processID> as well
[11:07] <jeeves_Moss> lupine_85:  I've got next to nothing installed, and I'm pushing 4.6Gb
[11:07] <lupine_85> as to other stuff... it really depends on what you've been up to. Cleared out your deleted items "folder" yet? ;)
[11:07] <lupine_85> have you got both gnome and KDE installed? Xfce?
[11:07] <jeeves_Moss> lupine_85:  I think it's just Gnome.  I don't like KDE
[11:07] <nikosapi> and remember to clean /tmp
[11:07] <lupine_85> linus torvalds orders you to use KDE :p
[11:08] <lupine_85>  /var/log maybe?
[11:08] <dbmonk74> godmachine: i tried to get it to go to 855 resolution, but it automatically downloaded 915resolution instead
[11:08] <jeeves_Moss> lupine_85: Linus can....  nm, not approved for this channel./
[11:08] <lupine_85> hehe
[11:08] <juaaaa> leandrosanchez_607hotmail.com
[11:08] <lupine_85> of course, Real Linux Users Don't Use Linux...
[11:09] <lupine_85> they use GNU/Linux ;)
[11:09] <jeeves_Moss> lupine_85:  ok, now how do I get all of those graphical toys installed on this system?  The cool window switching, etc that Gnome is to have updated?
[11:09] <BeOSMrX> erm.. Im trying to setup floppyfw http://www.zelow.no/floppyfw/index.html I dont know what I am doing so I was wondering if someone here wants to help me figure out how to fix the issues I am having with it
[11:09] <SlyGuy_> well i have no idae which process is this damn dist upgrade
[11:09] <lupine_85> ...#beryl or #ubuntu-xgl
[11:09] <lupine_85> type "/topic". Read. Do.
[11:09] <Rouli> hi guys
[11:09] <jeeves_Moss> lupine_85:  ok, thanks.
[11:09] <lupine_85> oh, and pray '_
[11:09] <Rouli> can anyone help me with a USB Wlan adaptor ?
[11:10] <poningru> Rouli: whatup?
[11:10] <webmaren> rouli, what kind
[11:10] <poningru> which one?
[11:10] <reiki> does ANYONE know if the wine version 0.9.24 will let you play World of Warcraft on Edgy. (The 0.9.22 version of wine included with Edgy will not)
[11:10] <_emmanuel_> j'ai des pbs avec le wifi et vous
[11:10] <Rouli> an asus wlanit is apparently recognized in the device manager
[11:11] <_emmanuel_> edgy et wifi et ipw3945 = ca marche pas
[11:11] <dbmonk74> godmachine: scratch that, it's working :) thank you very much for your assistance. It's appreciated!
[11:11] <babwe2> pls anyone have a link t a livecd for bunntu
[11:11] <Rouli> and i activated the wlan in the networking admin
[11:11] <reiki> !fr
[11:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:11] <webmaren> rouli, did you restart your system after you activated
[11:12] <TooTallJones> i'm trying to install Mount iso image0.9.1 on xubuntu/xfce4 when running the ./install.sh I get Couldn't find KDE config folder! Type the full path here or press "Ctrl+C" to abort:.  Can I point it to the xfce4 config? or does that mean it will only work in KDE?
[11:12] <Rouli> yep
[11:12] <dave> kodat: are you still there? have you still got the firefox/flash crashing problem?
[11:12] <clop> hi, if i apt-get install a package, how do i tell where it put the files?
[11:12] <Tux911> Ok i jsut installed Edgy on my laptop and my wirless quit working. It worked fine in dapper. can someone pleas tell me what i need to get it working
[11:12] <The_Pacifist> When the CD is booting with ubuntu and I select Start or Install, it almost finishes loading and then freezes.  When it freezes a line pops up going horizontally accross the screen and the logo gets pixalized.
[11:12] <reiki> clop, if you apt-get install you won't have to tell it where to put files
[11:12] <Kuschelig> Why is there no kernel for i686 on Edgy?
[11:13] <webmaren> rouli, are you using ndiswrapper
[11:13] <james|date> should i isnstall windows 2003 or ubuntu first for a easy dual boot
[11:13] <clop> reiki, i just want to know where the files are afterwards, it's a source package that iw ant to try to build
[11:13] <_emmanuel_> i have wifi pb with edgy
[11:13] <Music_Shuffle> james|date, windows first
[11:13] <james|date> ty music
[11:13] <james|date> sux i hate installing windows
[11:13] <james|date> so boring
[11:13] <james|date> well if i do ubuntu first
[11:13] <reiki> clop, if you apt-get install it and then go into synaptic and highlight it, all files locations will be shown to you under Properties
[11:13] <Rouli> hmm, i m kind of a newbie; i dont know what ndiswarpper is
[11:13] <Tim90> Network stoped working,
[11:14] <james|date> and windows second
[11:14] <Tim90> what can i do
[11:14] <clop> ok, thanks
[11:14] <james|date> i can just add something to boot.ini cant i
[11:14] <james|date> ill do windows first tho to be safe
[11:14] <UFO64> can anyone answer a quick question concerning 6.10 and a mac book pro?
[11:14] <Music_Shuffle> A good plan. :D
[11:14] <webmaren> roulli, ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net
[11:14] <Kuschelig> Why is there no kernel for i686 on Edgy?
[11:15] <reiki> Kuschelig, indeed! I would like smp support
[11:18] <reiki> wow... I don't think I've ever seen freenode split before
[11:18] <Music_Shuffle> split? >.>
[11:18] <reiki> net split
[11:18] <AlaricX> Yay :P
[11:18] <AlaricX> *cough*
[11:18] <reiki> used to happen a lot on EfNet
[11:19] <crimsun> Tokenbad: install libgtk2.0-dev
[11:19] <funkja> I cannot copy and paste and things like that - when I press ctrl and then the letter, it just prints the letter. Any ideas?
[11:19] <LjL> Abst: well, you managed to ask anyway :P
[11:19] <Abst> LjL: I didn't ask :/
[11:19] <Gurft> How do I disable the automounter for cdrom and dvds.... causing conflicts with my mythtv box.
[11:19] <adele> it says I need to run it as a superuser
[11:19] <adele> wtf
[11:19] <BeOSMrX> Im trying to setup floppyfw http://www.zelow.no/floppyfw/index.html I dont know what I am doing so I was wondering if someone here wants to help me figure out how to fix the issues I am having with it. If no one here can help THEN SAY SO or else I will keep on asking.
[11:19] <POVaddct> Tim90: check the output of "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[11:19] <Shogran> My usb flashfdrive is read, I can add files and delete them.. but when i take it back out and put it back in.. Nothing has changed..
[11:19] <nardis_miles> Tokenbad, what tool are you using to install?
[11:19] <POVaddct> Tim90: is it 1?
[11:19] <Martincho> Where do I get the decoders for see movies with totem?
[11:19] <delaney> doing dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig used to give me a blue screen in terminal and the option to change settings like activating bitmapped fonts.  in edgy it no longer does this.. any idea how i might accomplish it now?
[11:19] <Abst> LjL: What would you do if ubotu was in the split
[11:19] <jrib> !mutlimedia | Martincho
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mutlimedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <adele> how do I change my status to superuser?
[11:19] <jrib> !multimedia | Martincho
[11:19] <ubotu> Martincho: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[11:19] <Abst> !sudo | adele
[11:19] <ubotu> adele: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:19] <kalikiana7> adele: use 'sudo'
[11:20] <Martincho> oh
[11:20] <Tim90> POVaddct: its 0
[11:20] <POVaddct> Tim90: you need to put writing 1 to this file in a initscript
[11:20] <adele> thanks guys
[11:21] <Shogran> | I I |
[11:21] <Tim90> can  i have a command to edit this file
[11:21] <nardis_miles> adele, you can easily create a root account. There are security penalties, but it is much more convenient. Simply issue sudo passwd and you can create a root password (FWIW)
[11:22] <adele> so sudo is a command that gives you a superuser status?
[11:22] <MorphDK> hey.. when i press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to the console, my screen just turns purple with a lot of lines, and nothing else happens.. Anyine else got this problem?
[11:22] <wildchild> is there a way to fix more than one package?
[11:22] <PS> hi, has anyone got a fix to get sound working with firefox 2 and flash?
[11:23] <adele> also guys I have a question: I am trying to open quakeworld on linux but when I open it then it tells me "Cannot open /home/adele/qw_new/fuhquake-gl.glx: No application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file."
[11:23] <adele> Im pretty sure I have opengl installed
[11:23] <adele> wtf
[11:24] <nardis_miles> adele, yes, but you have to be part of the sudo group. The user that performs the install is automatically part of sudo. Almost each time you issue sudo, you are asked for your password. For doing lots of admin tasks, I prefer to be root. Once you have a root password, you issue the su command, and then enter the root password.
[11:24] <ubuntugrrrrr> Hey there.. I just installed java on here a few days ago, and now my friend wants to know how I installed it.. but I cant remember where I got it from.. can anyone refer me to something that could help?
[11:24] <POVaddct> Tim90: join the POVhelps channel
[11:24] <james|date> hey guys when burning ubuntu using nero it shouldnt look like this hsould it
[11:24] <james|date> http://jayparadise85.googlepages.com/ubtuntu.JPG
[11:25] <james|date> when u drag the iso into nero shouldnt the contents of the iso displpay
[11:25] <jeeves_Moss> all:  can any one give me a hand with getting a USB Bluetooth adaptor working?
[11:25] <james|date> cus i think i may have it in the wrong mode
[11:25] <Tim90> POVaddct: do i just edit this file "/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" and put 1 ...its empty at the moment
[11:25] <dbmonk74> Okay, I've tried running 915resolution, but i'm completely lost as to what to do next-  still stuck in the HowtoVideoResolution page
[11:25] <joona> james|date: yes, you burnt the file
[11:25] <POVaddct> Tim90: no you cannot edit that. it is a pseudo file.
[11:25] <james|date> huh?
[11:26] <james|date> i havent yet
[11:26] <james|date> before i hit burn i wanna know if this disc wont be wasted
[11:26] <Tim90> see you in pvs chat
[11:26] <joona> james|date: check the menus, iirc there's "burn cdrom image"-choice under recorder-menu ?
[11:26] <Shogran> I cant delete or add files to my USB Storage.. Do i need to format it? and how?
[11:26] <POVaddct> Tim90: the value "1" has to be written to it at each boot
[11:26] <james|date> im having to do it dvd btw
[11:26] <joona> or something stating image
[11:26] <james|date> cus all i have is a dvdr
[11:26] <nardis_miles> One more time, is there anyone with experience with apt-cacher?
[11:26] <dbmonk74> any help that can be offered would be vastly appreciated :)
[11:27] <Tim90> POVaddct: please talk on the povs-help
[11:27] <stardled> hoLa,
[11:27] <POVaddct> Tim90: you are in the wrong channel
[11:27] <james|date> ok i did that joona
[11:27] <james|date> when i hit burn image it just started
[11:27] <POVaddct> Tim90: #POVhelps
[11:27] <james|date> hopefully it works
[11:28] <stardled> anyone here want to help me ;] 
[11:29] <Shogran> whata wrong stardled?
[11:29] <UKMatt> I'm still a little unsure of how installing some things works in ubuntu, I dl'ed "Checkgmail", and i think its a 'binary' package, it contains a perl file that can be run through terminal and all fine, but how do i "install" it so that its out of my way but I can still run it
[11:29] <talldave2002> OK I give up, i have spent two days trying to get nvidia drivers working on my system since upgrade to Edgy, I am going to reinstall Dapper, unless anyone has any other ideas?
[11:29] <vdepizzol> What I need to do before resize a ext3 partition? (defrag?)
[11:29] <stardled> on the dell dimension e521 package, the mouse freezes after a lil bit
[11:29] <stardled> happens on both dapper and edgy
[11:29] <Shogran> take out your mouse.. reboot
[11:29] <hap0> Can anyone please help resolve why my preferences for Screen Resolution displays the options for 1024x768 and lower, when my xorg.conf file only has "1280x1024" "1152x864" listed for all modes???
[11:30] <Shogran> then shut you pc off  and leave it for 15 minutes
[11:30] <PS> vdepizzol: backup your data?  :-)
[11:30] <stardled> it happens on everyones dell e521
[11:30] <Shogran> plug your moust back in.. and boot back up
[11:30] <Shogran> ohh.. then i dont know
[11:30] <stardled> that doesn't work
[11:30] <stardled> heh
[11:30] <stardled> yeah
[11:30] <Shogran> it might be the mouse
[11:30] <PS> vdepizzol: no, seriously, you don't need to defrag or anything before a resize
[11:30] <stardled> nah
[11:30] <stardled> there was like 13 people who had this issue, with all kinds of mouses
[11:30] <Shogran> have you tried different mouses?
[11:30] <stardled> mice *
[11:30] <Shogran> o see
[11:30] <vdepizzol> PS,thank's :)... it's secure? :P
[11:30] <LjL> Abst: i'd hope it isn't :)
[11:31] <Shogran> get a better pc
[11:31] <Shogran> go gateway.. heard they were cheap
[11:31] <stardled> its pretty good lol
[11:31] <UKMatt> installing help anyone?...?
[11:31] <Shogran> im trying to help you!
[11:31] <stardled> 256MB NVIDIA Geforce 7300LE TurboCache
[11:31] <Shogran> lmao
[11:31] <stardled> AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 3800+
[11:31] <stardled> 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz- 2DIMMs
[11:31] <stardled> 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache
[11:31] <Shogran> is your mouse usb?
[11:31] <stardled> :x
[11:31] <stardled> yeah
[11:31] <stardled> it doesn't have a PS/2 input or whatever
[11:31] <PS> vdepizzol, any resize is inherently a little risky, but it *should* be ok - just don't interrupt it midway through
[11:32] <Shogran> thats odd..
[11:32] <jmspeex> Can someone tell me what script gets executed by the gnome-power-manager when I close the lid -- 20% of the time, the screen remains blank after I open it.
[11:32] <vdepizzol> PS, thank you :)
[11:32] <stardled> yeah
[11:32] <jmspeex> That's with Edgy
[11:32] <Shogran> well ubuntu does have problems with USB..
[11:32] <PS> vdepizzol, np, good luck
[11:32] <Flash13> Hello! anyone know how to alter the character used for filenaming?
[11:32] <bderrly> since when does ubuntu have problems with usb?
[11:32] <jmspeex> Shogran: Ubuntu has problems with everything
[11:32] <Shogran> since i cant my flash drive to work
[11:32] <UKMatt> what kind of file do I have if ./configure and make don't work
[11:33] <stardled> yeah people said that if you get a converter it works, but i don't feel like spending money [although it might be worth it] , i thought i'd ask here and see if anyone knew how to edit bios or some stuff idk haha
[11:33] <nardis_miles> hap0, my recollection is that you can add that resolution to any of the SubSection "Display" Modes lines. FYI, my xorg has everything from 1280x1024 down to 640x480.
[11:33] <Vane> join Zacatecas
[11:33] <wikijeff> How can I have my mouse wheel scroll when I push it down like it does on windows????
[11:33] <Shogran> trust me it is worth it .. a mouse is important!
[11:33] <stardled> haha
[11:33] <Zyfo> How do I enable java syntax on Cream?
[11:33] <matthew_w> What are some reasons my tv out would fail to work?
[11:33] <stardled> well i have windows and the mouse works
[11:33] <stardled> thats what i'm on right now
[11:34] <stardled> *everyone flames*
[11:34] <stardled> lol
[11:34] <Shogran> you should be in the windows channel then
[11:34] <stardled> :x
[11:34] <Shogran>  its #Their_stealing_all_your_money
[11:34] <wikijeff> anyone?
[11:34] <stardled>  rofl
[11:35] <Random_Transit> hey, how do i use the repos to update to Edgy??
[11:35] <juaaaa> leandrosanchez_607
[11:35] <bretzel> woah install is done ( already :-) ) now where can I get that wireless icon strength indicator ?
[11:35] <nardis_miles> talldave2002 ARe you trying to use the ubuntu kernel modules, or are you installing the nvidia driver from their website?
[11:35] <stardled> i need to talk to like a maker of ubuntu [lol] .  they could probably help me ;] 
[11:35] <bretzel> !wireless
[11:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:35] <Shogran> lol
[11:35] <Random_Transit> !edgy
[11:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[11:36] <Shogran> everyones a maker og ubuntu
[11:36] <stardled> !poop
[11:36] <Shogran> of^
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <teledyn> wow i just read the /. article.  what a load of faeces
[11:36] <stardled> LOL
[11:36] <Shogran> its an open source program..
[11:36] <Shogran> Cannonical made it
[11:36] <stardled> well
[11:36] <talldave2002> nardis_miles: i have tried several ways, each time i get errors
[11:36] <stardled> anyone genius enough to make it work with mine lol
[11:37] <Shogran> yeah.. stick with windows...
[11:37] <Shogran> you can play cool games on windows
[11:37] <stardled> :(
[11:37] <bluecalx> windows is safe
[11:37] <stardled>  i've used ubuntu before on my old pc.
[11:37] <Shogran> like WOW
[11:37] <PS> anyone got a fix to get sound working with firefox 2 and flash...?
[11:37] <stardled> only beardo's play WoW
[11:37] <Shogran> Ps try fixing yout AOSS.. somone here will tell you how
[11:37] <talldave2002> nardis_miles: I have even clean installed Dapper then updated to edgy and then tried to install Nvidia drivers and get errors
[11:38] <adele> does anybody know how to install KDE (I have gnome installed right now)?
[11:38] <nardis_miles> talldave2002. I have been successful from the website. It requires that you have the kernel source from the kernel you're installing to in /usr/src. Do you have that?
[11:38] <bluecalx> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:38] <talldave2002> nardis_miles: ok how did you do it?
[11:38] <macd> can I take all the mounted network servers and move them into a folder on the desktop? drag and drop doesnt seem to work.
[11:38] <PS> thanks Shogran, what kind of fixing aoss - to get firefox using it, or generally?
[11:39] <Megaqwerty> I'm having this problem when I try to view embedded video in a web page where it shows a black box with the text: (no video) any ideas?
[11:40] <macd> Megaqwerty, you ned the appropriate plugins
[11:40] <Xal> Hi
[11:40] <Megaqwerty> macd: I was pretty sure I did, which ones do I need?
[11:40] <adele> how would I switch between KDE and GNOME once both are installed on my system?
[11:40] <Xal> What is the web app that shows system specifications, hard drive usage, cpu usage, etc
[11:40] <nardis_miles> First, I'm using a 2.6.17 kernel, so I installed the package linux-source-2.6.17, using any of the standard tools (apt-get, or aptitude, as examples)
[11:40] <reiki> is it possible to apt-get install a program while running edgy...but from a dapper repository?
[11:40] <Shogran> ill get you the website PS
[11:40] <macd> Megaqwerty,   I suppose Id need to know the type of video you were trying to watch
[11:41] <kalikiana7> adele: set them up in different sessions, either kdm or gdm
[11:41] <Megaqwerty> macd: .mov I believe I get this problem with .wmv as well.
[11:41] <Shogran> PS , http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[11:41] <adele> kalikiana7, is it possible to choose it on startup?
[11:41] <macd> you need the mplayer quicktime and w32codecs
[11:41] <Shogran> now.. can somone help me with my USB flash drive?
[11:41] <macd> along with the mplayer firefox plugin
[11:42] <Shogran> Did that help PS?
[11:42] <Megaqwerty> macd: yeah, it happens with wmv as well
[11:42] <tnuic> hi, i just upgraded my dapper for edgy and my alsa is not working
[11:42] <nardis_miles> Talldave 2002, Then, you have to make a link in /usr/src called linux that points to the 2.6.17 source directory. Issue ln -s linux-source-2.6.17 linux
[11:42] <macd> Megaqwerty, grad the w32codes the H263 codec for mplayer and the mplayer firefox plugin.
[11:42] <kalikiana7> adele: if u use eg. gdm you could add a session and choose it on login; for me i think it was automatically installed
[11:43] <rag> what version for kubuntu is for Celeron processor?
[11:43] <kalikiana7> adele: like i choose between xfce, gnome-failsafe, xgl or whatever
[11:43] <rag> i test edgy eft intel iso but without success!
[11:43] <adele> im new to this whole linux thing
[11:43] <PS> Shogran, I was just reading it and double checking.  i've already installed alsa-oss and have that line in etc/firefox/firefoxrc.  i've already fixed the problem once for firefox 1.5 but since i u/g to 2 it's back and won't go this time... :-(
[11:44] <kalikiana7> that'S ok.
[11:44] <kalikiana7> did you already install kde and gnome?
[11:44] <tnuic> i just upgraded from dapper to edgy and my alsa stopped working, can anyone help me ?
[11:44] <adele> I think im gonna erase it from this PC, my videocard runs noisy on linux for some reason :o
[11:44] <PS> shogran, i've also tried "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1; sudo mkdir -p /tmp/.esd/; sudo touch /tmp/.esd/socket" but no luck
[11:44] <Shogran> do it again.. i guess. worked for me
[11:44] <BeOSMrX> Im trying to setup floppyfw http://www.zelow.no/floppyfw/index.html I dont know what I am doing so I was wondering if someone here wants to help me figure out how to fix the issues I am having with it. If no one here can help THEN SAY SO or else I will keep on asking.
[11:44] <adele> kalikiana7, I am downloading KDE right now
[11:44] <Shogran> i had to do it twice
[11:44] <alek66> how do I check which  version of nvidia drivers am i using?
[11:44] <Shogran> not that last post you put though.
[11:45] <PS> shogran, ok, i'll try the aoss stuff again, thx
[11:45] <thor0> is there way to install Ubuntu from ISO without a CD (to mount it and install it somhow)?
[11:45] <Shogran> Your welcome
[11:45] <nardis_miles> Talldave2002. Sorry. After installing the linux-source-2.6.17 package, you need to bunzip it (using bunzip2) and then detar it (ifyou don't know te command, I can lead you through it). After all of this is through, and you have downloaded the Nvidia package, you have to exit X, kill the xserver (making sure that the file .X0-lock is removed from /tmp) and simply run the NVIDIA package.
[11:45] <Shogran> if it doesnt work your out of my jurisdiction
[11:45] <Lubix_> so who read the slashdot article on the problems with 6.1
[11:46] <Lubix_> im still standing?
[11:46] <Tokenbad> is there a way to fix something like this?  checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[11:46] <stardled> anyone here good at programming, like editing ubuntu and such?
[11:46] <macd> BeOSMrX, this isnt the floppyfw support channel.
[11:46] <ianmacgregor> alek66: apt-cache policy nvidia ?
[11:46] <dbmonk74> can anyone direct me further on resolving video resolution issues? i'm completely stuck
[11:46] <alek66> ianmacgregor, i want to check if I am using the beta or the other one
[11:47] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: What have you done thus far?
[11:47] <Trackilizer> I can't play .moc files even after installing all codecs, all i see is green and everything is really blurry. Is there anyway to solve this?
[11:47] <nashnash> please help me i have "access denined" while trying to open xscan - here is the pic http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8642/screenshot3kk8.png
[11:47] <Trackilizer> mov*
[11:47] <Albatorsk> Hi folks. I have a problem with my bluetooth mouse when I'm using Ubuntu. I can connect it just fine with "hidd --search", and it'll work for 30 minutes or so. But then it will lose connection, and I have to run "hidd --search" again. Using the same version of bluez in Slackware on the same computer doesn't yield this problem. Does anyone know what might be wrong?
[11:47] <loki505> ok i just upgraded to 6.10 but something happend so know im back at 6.06
[11:47] <Webstrand> is their an program that is the equivlent of check disk in ubuntu? My NTFS is corrupt and i need to repair it.
[11:47] <loki505> and i was wandering if this will happen on april
[11:47] <twb> So I've just distupgraded from dapper to edgy.  Any gotchas to check before I restart?
[11:47] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: I've been trying to configure the resolution using : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:48] <loki505> when the other version of ubuntu gets here
[11:48] <mamzers555> Albatorsk; what version of ubuntu u use?
[11:48] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: Did you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?
[11:48] <Albatorsk> mamzers555: 6.10
[11:48] <jrib> twb: you have to dist upgrade twice to get upstrart apparently
[11:48] <twb> Webstrand: there is fsck (filesystem check), but I don't think there is a version for NTFS.
[11:48] <sanmarcos> THE LORDS OF KOBOL!!
[11:48] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:48] <outRider> does anyone have smb browsing working in nautilus on a fresh edgy install?
[11:48] <kalikiana7> adele: so downloading means via synaptic or aptitute?
[11:48] <Shogran> is there a way to format my USB Flashdrive?
[11:48] <twb> jrib: I have upstart installed and sysvinit removed.
[11:48] <twb> Anything else?
[11:48] <Shogran> in ubuntu?
[11:48] <mamzers555> Albatorsk; in terminal "sudo gedit /etc/defaults/bluetooth"
[11:48] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: I did that once, but my monitor told me that it couldn't display that video mode
[11:49] <mamzers555> Albatorsk; there you have to change some lines
[11:49] <twb> Shogran: yes.  Do you know the associated device name?
[11:49] <Lubix_> i really hope 7.04 will be more exciting
[11:49] <jrib> twb: k, you're set then
[11:49] <nashnash> please help me i have "access denined" while trying to open xscan - here is the pic http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8642/screenshot3kk8.png
[11:49] <Shogran> ... No
[11:49] <Shogran> where do i find it?
[11:49] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: Are you trying to get a res that your monitor doesn't support?
[11:49] <twb> jrib: thanks.
[11:49] <Albatorsk> mamzers555: Ok, thanks. Do you happen to know which ones?
[11:49] <twb> Shogran: it'll be called /dev/sda or similar.
[11:49] <nashnash> please help me i have "access denined" while trying to open xsane (scanning program)  - here is the pic http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8642/screenshot3kk8.png
[11:49] <Webstrand> thanks, it wont work :D
[11:49] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: probably, but I'm really at a loss to get it to recognize anything about 640x480x16
[11:49] <mamzers555> Albatorsk; sorry /etc/default/bluetooth
[11:49] <jasonp> Hi I've just tried to install 6.10 on my AMD64 box and the installer doesn't detect the harddrive( but dapper works fine)
[11:49] <nardis_miles> Is talldave2002 still here, or am I talking to myself?
[11:49] <twb> Shogran: if you look at the end of the output from `dmesg' when you plug in the device, it will tell you.
[11:49] <adele> kalikiana7, I am downloading it thru terminal
[11:50] <jasonp> anyone got any ideas?
[11:50] <Shogran> ... it doesnt give me a dmesg
[11:50] <twb> You run the program `dmesg' on the command line.
[11:50] <nardis_miles> jasonp: What kind of hard drive is it (IDE, SATA?)
[11:50] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: i ran those two commands - back to the "cannot display this video mode"
[11:51] <kalikiana7> adele: ok, so you should be able to choose a 'session' at the login
[11:51] <adele> kalikiana7, I did it thru sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:51] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: I would suggest you google your monitor specs and then do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and then  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:51] <jasonp> nardis_miles: SATA 250gb
[11:51] <twb> jrib: oh, I'm using NIS and NFS.  Any known hiccups for them?
[11:51] <kalikiana7> adele: yeah, that's what i meant :)
[11:51] <Shogran> ok...
[11:51] <Shogran> sda : sda1
[11:51] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: You could very well be trying to get a res/refresh/sync that your monitor doesn't support. That happened to me once.
[11:51] <nashnash> please help me i have "access denined" while trying to open xsane (scanning program)  - here is the pic http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8642/screenshot3kk8.png
[11:51] <ianmacgregor> !repeat nashnash
[11:52] <jrib> twb: don't know about those, you can check launchpad.net for any filed bugs though and ubuntuforums.org
[11:52] <ianmacgregor> !repeat > nashnash
[11:52] <c0nf> !repeat ianmacgregor
[11:52] <c0nf> !repeat > ianmacgregor
[11:52] <twb> jrib: OK.
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: ping
[11:52] <Trackilizer> I can't play .mov files even after installing all codecs, all i see is green and everything is really blurry. Is there anyway to solve this?
[11:52] <Music_Shuffle> ianmacgregor, what's that actually DO? >.>
[11:52] <ianmacgregor> c0nf: Please don't do that
[11:52] <c0nf> !patience
[11:52] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:52] <noxxle> ok i hate gnome, how can i remove everything gnomish and put kubuntu on my computer with apt?
[11:52] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: I really think you're right... I've been told that i should be updating drivers and the such, but I think I am in over my head.
[11:52] <twb> (I find them kinda unweildy compared to Debian's BTS and the gmane interface to Debian's mailing lists :-(
 !patience
[11:52] <nashnash> rofl
[11:52] <Tokenbad> is there a way to fix something like this..It says I have gtk 2 installed...?  checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[11:53] <c0nf> ianmacgregor, k
[11:53] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: pong but very busy, try again in 15 mins
[11:53] <c0nf> 8(
[11:53] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: 'k
[11:53] <nardis_miles> jasonp, Edgy sees SATA on the 32-bit side, so I'd be surprised if it didn't on the 64-bit. Does your bios see the drive?
[11:53] <Shogran> twb : itsaid sda : sda1
[11:53] <ianmacgregor> Music_Shuffle: What does what do?
[11:53] <Albatorsk> mamzers555: Thanks. That did the trick.
[11:53] <Lam_> is there an xchat command to open a new server screen?
[11:53] <twb> nashnash: I would guess that you're not in the appropriate group (say, `scanners')
[11:53] <Music_Shuffle> ianmacgregor, the !command > username thingy >.>
[11:54] <twb> Shogran: OK, so what format do you want this device to be?  FAT16?
[11:54] <Verithrax> !deskbar
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deskbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <mamzers555> Albatorsk; take a look at the pm that i'Ve send you
[11:54] <jasonp> nardis: I'm try to install the 32 bit version, dapper already dual booting with win xp
[11:54] <noxxle> also beryl makes my graqphics card squeak
[11:54] <noxxle> wtf is up with that
[11:54] <adele> kalikiana7, which should i choose to be default, gdm or kdm
[11:54] <Lam_> nvm found it
[11:54] <mamzers555> Albatorsk; it's important to make all these changes
[11:54] <twb> noxxle: beryl?
[11:54] <Verithrax> Hrm. Deskbar for some reason comes only with Wikipedia and Ubuntu package search, anyone know how I add more search engines?
[11:54] <jimmygoon> beryl > compiz
[11:54] <ianmacgregor> Music_Shuffle: That instructs the bot to send the factoid to the users' irc client as a new tab
[11:54] <Shogran> i want it cleaned out. but i cant do it normally
[11:54] <twb> Ah, right.
[11:54] <reiki> can you add a repo to edgy that says it's for dapper and then apt-get install a program from it?
[11:54] <nashnash> twb where can i set the scanners? i tried users and groups but i didnt find anything good, and i dunno how to set it, i will appriciate it if u could make me a screenshot
[11:54] <jimmygoon> ~beryl
[11:54] <noxxle> is beryl really that much better than compiz???
[11:54] <jimmygoon> noxxle : yes
[11:54] <Music_Shuffle> Ahh okok thanks. xD
[11:54] <coz_> evebubg akk
[11:54] <noxxle> why
[11:54] <mamzers555> Albatorsk; after this: "sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart"
[11:54] <twb> nashnash: um, I would do it with `sudo vigr', but there is probably a GUI interface.
[11:54] <nardis_miles> jasonp: I already installed 32-bit edgy on two machines with SATA with no problem. Have you opened your box recently?
[11:55] <stardled> dell is officially far
[11:55] <stardled> fat*
[11:55] <lobosque> hey guys, the mount command is mount -t HD destiny
[11:55] <morfic> noxxle: not if you ask the compiz author ;P (otherwise: yes, so i hear)
[11:55] <Albatorsk> mamzers555: Thanks, I fixed it.
[11:55] <nashnash> ill try sudo vigr, w8
[11:55] <lobosque> but i dont know what to put in HD
[11:55] <jimmygoon> more features, way faster, MUCH more user-friendly... and its REALLY Easy to install!
[11:55] <noxxle> what does beryl have over compiz
[11:55] <kalikiana7> adele: i'd use gdm
[11:55] <lobosque> i tried /hdb1 but it is wrong
[11:55] <noxxle> other than making my computer squeak
[11:55] <noxxle> ??
[11:55] <Albatorsk> How do I read PM:s?
[11:55] <twb> Shogran: uh, so what is your end goal?
[11:55] <jimmygoon> themes, and TONS of plugins
[11:55] <morfic> noxxle: more active developers from what i hear
[11:55] <Albatorsk> Perhaps I should read the FreeNode documentation..
[11:55] <nashnash> twb there is no scan there ^^^
[11:55] <noxxle> yea but when i max and minimize windows it makes a squeak
[11:55] <nashnash> aah w8
[11:55] <twb> jimmygoon: chrome :P
[11:55] <jimmygoon> and an actual configuration interface
[11:55] <mamzers555> Albatorsk; after this, your mouse should work since boot without doing some search
[11:55] <jasonp> nardis: nope, I've just installed dapper on the box to see if it was hardware but thats gone through fine
[11:55] <noxxle> its not my fan or speakers
[11:55] <Shogran> .. To be able to write to it or delete from it
[11:55] <kalikiana7> adele: because eg. xfce or others would be more compatible
[11:56] <jimmygoon> noxxle: it actually makes a noise.. like through your speaker?
[11:56] <noxxle> lawl xcfe is dead
[11:56] <Albatorsk> mamzers555: Yes, you're right. I found the setting.
[11:56] <noxxle> no i think its my graphics card
[11:56] <lobosque> hey guys, the mount command is mount -t HD destiny, i tried to put /hdb1 in HD but is wrong, how i do it right?
[11:56] <noxxle> its a minor squeak
[11:56] <twb> Ratpoison!
[11:56] <jimmygoon> ummmm
[11:56] <mamzers555> Albatorsk; np
[11:56] <noxxle> and only when i do certain graphical things
[11:56] <jimmygoon> thats... not ... good.... does compiz do that?
[11:56] <noxxle> doesnt do it in games though
[11:56] <twb> Shogran: oh, you can't actually access files on the device?
[11:56] <noxxle> just beryl, dunno about compiz
[11:56] <Shogran> you want me to put ratpoison in my usb device?
[11:56] <noxxle> i havent tried compiz
[11:56] <jimmygoon> it sounds like your grafix card has some problems :S
[11:56] <noxxle> naw
[11:56] <twb> Shogran: please prefix your replies with `twb:' so I see them.
[11:56] <jimmygoon> what grafix card?
[11:56] <noxxle> geforce 7400
[11:56] <noxxle> laptop
[11:56] <twb> Shogran: no, ratpoison has nothing to do with your problem.
[11:57] <jimmygoon> Well I'd have to say you are the only person I've ever heard of with this problem... have you asked in their forums: http://forum.beryl-project.org
[11:57] <Shogran> Twb: Lmao.. nah.. Well i can.. i can make it look like i did alot to it.. but when i plug it into another device or plug it back in to my pc.. its just like it was before i changed it
[11:57] <mamzers555> lobosque; "sudo mount -t filesystem /dev/hdb1 /mnt or some other points
[11:57] <twb> Shogran: that sounds like you aren't syncing changes from memory to disk.
[11:58] <twb> Shogran: run the `sync' program, then unmount and eject the device properly.
[11:58] <lobosque> and i must do everytime i reboot? because i made it once and now it is unmonted
[11:58] <adele> kalikiana7, it seems like ti finished installing. Do I reboot?
[11:58] <nashnash> twb how can i set there scanner access there at all?
[11:58] <twb> Shogran: when you're finished using it, I mean.
[11:58] <dabaR> lobosque: you can find out by running sudo fdisk -l
[11:58] <nashnash> there is no scanner axx
[11:58] <nardis_miles> jasonp: Sorry not to be any help, other than to know that edgy has worked for SATA. In the installation, I recall that the partioning screen picks one of your disks to start. Isn't there a pull-down menu in the upper RH corner? Have you tried going there?
[11:58] <twb> nashnash: I don't know, it was only a guess.
[11:58] <Shogran> ok. how do i unmount it properly?
[11:58] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: Ok, thanks for your help to now, but I think where I am having problems is selecting the appropriate X driver - for an Intel 82865G, it is reccomending i use the i810 driver - but any time I use that, it gives me the cannot display. If i use vesa, i get 640x480, and if i use vga - well, 300x120 or something like that
[11:58] <twb> Shogran: either right-click on the icon and choose `unmount', or run `sudo umount /dev/sda1' from the command line.
[11:59] <Zyfo> I'm using Cream to write java, how do I compile it?
[11:59] <Shogran> TWB : Thankls.. if this works ill wire you a dollar
[11:59] <twb> Shogran: the point I'm making is that you shouldn't just make some changes and then rip the device out.
[11:59] <nbx909> okay
[11:59] <Shogran> yeah i didnt know there was another way..
[11:59] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: Are you trying to use an nvidia or ati card?
[11:59] <dbmonk74> it's an onboard intel
[11:59] <jasonp> nardis: nothing in thedrop down at all! hmm never mind maybe I'll get the wireless usb working in dapper and apt-get edgy then, thanks for your help.
[11:59] <nbx909> the shutdown and reboot option has misteriously disappered from my quit screen in gnome
[11:59] <kalikiana7> adele: logout should suffice
[11:59] <nbx909> any idea?
[12:00] <kalikiana7> adele: logout should suffice
[12:00] <adele> ok ill try that now
[12:00] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: it's an onboard intel 82865G
[12:00] <nardis_miles> jasonp: I ask because it took two installs for dapper before I realized that the list of partitions was abridged. That is, I already had enough partitions from another drive to fill the list. Only after I filled in the mont points did it start showing my partitions.
[12:00] <noxxle> what are the main differences between beryl and compiz??????????????
[12:00] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: which probably speaks volumes about why i'm having issues
[12:00] <Thib_> hello
[12:01] <Thib_> me again
[12:01] <SlyGuy> how would i escape this properly in an rsync command? /var/lib/vmware/Virtual Machines/Windows XP Professional
[12:01] <dabaR> Zyfo: does cream produce a .java file in a directory somewhere on your system?