[12:12] <Chousuke> you may simply implement it badly.
[12:12] <bobbyyu> There, it's normal
[12:12] <bobbyyu> Thanks
[12:13] <caseyomah> Any computer (technology) can emulate any other computer (technology) given enough time.
[12:13] <softmaster>  is there any way to use subtitles with rmvb in kubuntu please ?
[12:13] <aterphasma> so... again with the wondering about battery monitor/ACPI
[12:13] <caseyomah> softmaster: Sorry, I'mve never used rmvb.
[12:13] <Chousuke> softmaster: try with helix player/realplayer
[12:14] <Chousuke> Real player for Linux is actually quite good
[12:14] <Trollinator> i prefer mplayer.
[12:14] <caseyomah> Chousuke: Not like the Win32 version that glitches everything but itself?
[12:14] <Trollinator> it's like FAST!
[12:14] <Chousuke> caseyomah: not like that at all.
[12:14] <sorush20> my printer is pcl how do I get it to work do I have to do anything special?
[12:14] <sorush20> !pcl
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <Chousuke> caseyomah: it's a nice GTK2 app.
[12:15] <Chousuke> caseyomah: it doesn't have apps and weird gimmicks either.
[12:15] <Trollinator> GTK2 apps are never nice :p
[12:15] <Chousuke> ..
[12:15] <softmaster> this cant be
[12:15] <Chousuke> ads*
[12:15] <Chousuke> Trollinator: shush
[12:15] <softmaster> because realplayer doesnt support subtitles
[12:15] <Chousuke> oh, well. :/
[12:16] <softmaster> anyone knows
[12:16] <softmaster> ?
[12:16] <Trollinator>  because realplayer doesnt support subtitles  <--yep. That's because it's GTK based :D
[12:16] <Chousuke> try running the rmvb with mplayer and specify the subtitle file manually.
[12:16] <caribou8> !vnc
[12:16] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[12:16] <Chousuke> Trollinator: Don't lie. :P
[12:16] <caseyomah> softmaster: I know oKle supports subtitles, but that's just for DVD.
[12:16] <VanessaE> ok that was a rather long 30 mins.....
[12:16] <caribou8> !freenx
[12:16] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[12:17] <TheNameless> hello
[12:18] <caseyomah> How would I allow a Win32 Box to open a Remote Desktop to KDE?
[12:18] <teledyn> mplayer, xine, vlc all support subtitle files
[12:18] <Trollinator> everyone should switch to Qt. GTK should be re-implemented as a layer upon Qt as far as possible for legacy apps (like GNOME) and all future development should take place on Qt and KDE
[12:18] <TheNameless> what is the command, where i can see how much bytes are free, .. on my harddisk?
[12:18] <Trollinator> caseyomah: Google for Xming
[12:18] <fdoving> TheNameless: 'df'
[12:18] <Trollinator> TheNameless: df -h
[12:18] <georgeb> caseyomah: if you want to remote connect to the kde from windows download a vnc client
[12:19] <Zarephath> I need to identify ip addresses assigned inside my local lan...I have 4 computer that are using static ips..I have one that is getting ip assigned via dhcp...what tool would I use to find out the ip assigned via dhcp from a different computer?
[12:19] <Trollinator> arp -a
[12:19] <TheNameless> Trollinator: thanks,... oh it isn't musch ^^
[12:20] <Chousuke> arp -a? :P
[12:20] <b3r53rk> hello everyone
[12:20] <TheNameless> much ...
[12:20] <omicron> hi. i use an us keyboard layout on kubuntu edgy with alt-intl. with dapper I was able to enter umlauts with the deadkeys. that does not work any more. can there be a problem with utf-8?
[12:20] <Chousuke> that shows something different :P
[12:20] <Trollinator> um...yes
[12:20] <aterphasma> what's the url for the kubuntu bug system?
[12:20] <Trollinator> sry :)
[12:20] <teledyn> try nmap -sP 192.168.0.1-254
[12:20] <fdoving> aterphasma: bugs.ubuntu.com
[12:20] <aterphasma> thanks
[12:20] <b3r53rk> here goes the n00by question: "is there a smart way to solve dependencies?" >.<
[12:21] <georgeb> caseyomah: if you want to remote connect from linux to win32 there are two ways: 1. if XP/2000 enable remote desktop connection or terminal services and on linux you can use krdc; 2. install a vnc server on windows, ant you can connect with a vnc client (ie. krdc)
[12:21] <fdoving> b3r53rk: try 'sudo apt-get -f install' from konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole)
[12:21] <VanessaE> b3r53rk, normally apt does that for you.  sometimes the -f switch helps though
[12:21] <Zarephath> Trollinator: Ah yes..kewl..and now for teledyn and see what that does...thanks for learning me folks :-)
[12:22] <b3r53rk> thanks fdoving, i'll try it out
[12:22] <b3r53rk> also thanks to VanessaE
[12:22] <Trollinator> ummm... Zarephath, did that work??
[12:24] <georgeb> caseyomah: to allow remote desktop connection on windows go to control panel-> system; and there's a tab with remote desktop or smth like that
[12:25] <Trollinator> whatever, i must go to sleep...
[12:25] <Trollinator> what time is it whereever you live?
[12:26] <georgeb> Trollinator: 01:26 am
[12:26] <Zarephath> trollinator: Yep somewhat...however the nmap command showed me everything..thanks
[12:26] <Trollinator> is that UK?
[12:26] <georgeb> Trollinator: romania; gmt+2
[12:27] <Trollinator> hm.
[12:27] <Zarephath> teledyn: Is is possible to get the mac address remotely of a given ip?
[12:28] <morfic> Zarephath: ask arp maybe, just run it
[12:28] <georgeb> Trollinator: you could do some  "/ctcp georgeb time" on random people :)
[12:28] <b3r53rk> VanessaE, that uninstalled about everything, was that supposed to be a joke or did i miss something? ^^
[12:28] <Zarephath> morfic: Kewl just specify the ip eh?
[12:28] <morfic> Zarephath: i am not sure it does what you want, run it w/o options and see
[12:29] <bobbyyu> Now, how to do I export the Linux Java path : /home/bobbyyu/Java/jdk1.5.0_07/bin to be global throughout the shell?
[12:29] <sorush20> sorush20
[12:29] <omicron> does anybody has a hit for my umlauts problem mentioned above?
[12:29] <Trollinator> well, whatever
[12:29] <sorush20> sorush
[12:29] <Trollinator> init 0
[12:29] <georgeb> Zarephath: you can find out the mac if only that computer is in your network (if you don't have to go thru the gateway to get to them :) )
[12:29] <omicron> s/hit/hint/
[12:29] <Trollinator> err...
[12:29] <redtricycle> Is there a command line option to trash something?
[12:29] <redtricycle> The mv command to the trash folder doesn't refresh the trash:/
[12:29] <redtricycle> for the gui
[12:30] <morfic> Zarephath: you might not see past the router
[12:30] <luksan> red ktrash ;-)
[12:30] <bobbyyu> I've done it before, but I forgot. Forgive me
[12:30] <luksan> redtricycle: ktrash
[12:30] <redtricycle> Thank you!
[12:30] <redtricycle> And under ktrash --help
[12:30] <redtricycle> is Note: to move files to the trash, do not use ktrash, but "kfmclient move 'url' trash:/"
[12:30] <redtricycle> so that works great too =)
[12:30] <fdoving> redtricycle: don't use ktrash, it's not ment to be used that way.
[12:30] <cox377> I know this is not a related topic @ all but you guys are pretty switched on to this type of thing so here goes
[12:30] <luksan> but i have found that in general file alteration doesn't work on kubuntu
[12:31] <Zarephath> georgeb,morfic: That is just awesome..thanks for the replies..that is exaclty what I wanted to do...I have a guest in my household that has been asked not to use the internet..and she continues to ignore my request...now I can block the mac address of the wireless card and no more internet access...mwahhahahahah
[12:31] <fdoving> redtricycle: 'kfmclient move file trash:/'
[12:31] <georgeb> Zarephath: arp=address resolve protocol (or smth like that); it does the matching between a IP and a MAC in a network; MAC works at a lower level protocol than IP
[12:31] <naur> i cant install mozilla firefox in my kubuntu, i go to adept installer - any suite and i found firefox but its in grey. i cannot go to the adept help.
[12:31] <redtricycle> thank you, fdo
[12:31] <cox377> i have to make suggestion to someone about eliminating audio typing, i';m trying to find a piece of kit, that can record voice straight into digital text without having to use a laptop to convert it
[12:32] <Zarephath> georgeb: Yep I remember that somewhere in my minimal exposure to tcp/ip...it is unique so that mac address will no longer work when blocked in the router... ;-)
[12:32] <georgeb> Zarephath: hmm.. what kind of access point do you use ?
[12:33] <unix_infidel> cox377: a program or a hardware device?
[12:33] <t3hwiz0rd> are there any programs that can recover formatted data for linux? similar to Get Data Back
[12:33] <georgeb> Zarephath: first you have to find out what ip does that computer has now; ping that ip; then arp -a, and you will see a entry for that ip and the mac; then, if the access point has a MAC address black list or smth you can block it from there
[12:34] <georgeb> Zarephath: the AP is secured with WEP/WAP ?
[12:34] <Zarephath> georgeb: Well just a inexpensive linksys setup as a gateway...she is getting access from the wireless...I
[12:34] <Zarephath> georgeb: nope...because xandors open community has something funky with wpa_supplicant..when I enable it on my sons computer..I can't the wireless connection to see the ssid broadcast..
[12:35] <cox377> unix_infidel: a hardware device, like your normal handheld voice recorder, but can convert it straight into text that would then say be uploadable via USB. Currently all i have found records it to audio, usb upload then the PC app converts it but it takes the time of the recording to convert it to text
[12:35] <Zarephath> *xandros*
[12:35] <unix_infidel> cox377: never seen one, i'd like to buy one myself.
[12:36] <unix_infidel> but i'd first buy a decent OCR first :)
[12:36] <Zarephath> Thanks for the help!
[12:36] <georgeb> Zarephath: I don't know if this applies to your access point but you can check it out: http://www.worldwidewardrive.org/linksys/linksys3.html
[12:36] <cox377> unix_infidel: no idea why such a thing isn't on the market.. all it's doing surely is using the normal voice reconition software but in a handheld device
[12:36] <unix_infidel> cox377: because its too intensive.
[12:36] <unix_infidel> computers are more suited for it.
[12:36] <rpedro> anyone else getting a 'floating point exception' when running amarok under Edgy?
[12:37] <cox377> unix_infidel: true, i suppoes there is quite a lot of processing power require but in this day and age it's not a huge amount to ask for surely
[12:37] <unix_infidel> cox377: it surely eis.
[12:38] <unix_infidel> we can barely make PDA's that have the same power of a p3 and have battery life 2x-3x that of a laptop without it costing close to a real laptop.
[12:38] <LastMall> doesn't nuance software have software for handhelds ?
[12:38] <cox377> unix_infidel: i mean the it's not a greatissue that theres involvement with the PC, but if you have 6 hours of audio u have to wait 6 hours for it to convert
[12:39] <unix_infidel> cox377: people have clustesr for trhat...they parallelise the content.
[12:39] <cox377> unix_infidel: very true.. i hadn't really thought about the processing side of it
[12:39] <cox377> unix_infidel: what exactly do you mean??
[12:40] <rav3n> hey, i've just updated to edgy i haev a problem..whn the system boots up and i log in i can access read/write my fat32 part. but when i exit the session and log in again i can't access them when i double lcik on them i see no files in there
[12:41] <rav3n> when i try to write
[12:41] <rav3n> it says no permission
[12:42] <rav3n> any help?
[12:42] <georgeb> rav3n: run mount and check if that partition is mounted
[12:43] <rav3n> not mounted :S
[12:43] <rav3n> how can i mount it
[12:43] <rav3n> ?
[12:43] <georgeb> rav3n: look in /etc/fstab if it's there an entry for it
[12:44] <rav3n> yeah there is
[12:44] <georgeb> rav3n: then run sudo mount /path/to/folder    it should work
[12:45] <rpedro> anyone else getting a 'floating point exception' when running amarok under Edgy?
[12:46] <rav3n> georgeb: still nothing..this problem only occurs when i log off and log in again
[12:46] <rav3n> but if i restarted i will the partitions fine
[12:47] <rav3n> georgebi will see the partitions fine *
[12:47] <t3hwiz0rd> how can you add or remove users from the sudo list?
[12:47] <rav3n> georgeb i will see the partitions fine *
[12:47] <Avdi> t3hwiz0rd-SR2: look at the /etc/sudoers file
[12:47] <georgeb> rav3n: is that on some kind of removable device ?
[12:47] <rav3n> nope
[12:47] <rav3n> a partition of my HD
[12:48] <flaccid_> t3hwiz0rd: the admin group is sudo access by default
[12:48] <georgeb> rav3n: when you ran mount.. did you get any output ?
[12:48] <jontec> I don't have sound in wine. T_T how do I get it?
[12:48] <t3hwiz0rd> flaccid_: whats odd is the user in question doesn't have admin as a primary OR secondary group
[12:49] <georgeb> rav3n: or take a look in /var/log/messages and see if you see any error when you tried to mount it
[12:49] <t3hwiz0rd> flaccid_: but they can still run sudo
[12:49] <rav3n> george: it mounted :)
[12:50] <rav3n> georgeb: but still if i logged off it will happen again
[12:50] <jontec> sorry, okay, now I'm identified... I don't have sound in wine. how do I fix it?
[12:50] <rav3n> wait i'll try and come back again
[12:53] <georgeb> t3hwiz0rd: login as that user and run id and check the groups
[12:53] <rav3n> georgeb: same thing
[12:53] <rav3n> georgeb: unmounted...
[12:54] <rav3n> georgeb: any ideas?
[12:54] <georgeb> rav3n: check /var/log/messages for any errors
[12:54] <georgeb> rav3n: or if you see anything about mounting/umounting that partition
[12:55] <jontec> anyone have problems with sound in wine?
[12:56] <rav3n> nuthing at all
[12:56] <rav3n> everything seems fine
[12:56] <thompa> are the kubuntu edgy users here now too?
[12:57] <trym|work> #ubuntu+1
[12:57] <trym|work> wait
[12:57] <trym|work> its relased
[12:57] <trym|work> hmm
[12:57] <thompa> still?
[12:57] <trym|work> nevermind ;)
[12:57] <thompa> heh
[12:57] <trym|work> just acting on routine
[12:57] <thompa> ok, why does ubuntu gnome have no disk mount utility like kde?
[12:58] <navaburo> jontec, everyone has problems with wine, its just the severity.
[12:58] <thompa> i have a second hard drive, thought i would try ubuntu, now back to KDE
[12:58] <navaburo> jontec, what program has issues?
[12:59] <jontec> it's a flash issue I believe
[12:59] <jontec> it's one of my student cds that I am running
[12:59] <thompa> anyone running real player on 64 version?
[12:59] <nub> I have an external hard drive and a usb key and whenever I plug one in it comes up with the "open it in a new window" option. When I click the open it in a new window it doesn't do anything. Any suggestions?
[12:59] <jontec> but it could also be quicktime because it's required for use
[01:01] <caseyomah> !quicktime
[01:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:02] <jontec> navaburo:sorry I didn't finish explaining... the video works fine, but the sounds doesn't work at all
[01:02] <jontec> sound*
[01:03] <navaburo> jontec, I never got several codecs to run in wine, quicktime included
[01:03] <navaburo> i am not sure if it even works.
[01:03] <jontec> dang. that sucks.
[01:03] <jontec> 'guess I'm still windows dependent. T_T
[01:04] <navaburo> jontec, well, non-free dependant typically iimplies windows dependant unfortunately
[01:04] <clyrrad> Is anyone having trouble with X11 fonts?  I am trying to install xfonts-base and i get error message warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory - so I tried to manually create teh directory but still get error - can anyon help?
[01:04] <navaburo> jontec, i dont know if its an option for you, but you can run a windows virtual machine inside linux. If you only need windows occasionally
[01:04] <navaburo> check out qemu or vmware
[01:05] <Bubba_Gump> i'm loving being windows free as i've transferred very to kubuntu (my two copper coins :) )
[01:05] <navaburo> i use it for office2003
[01:05] <thompa> my sounds are repeating over and over, help
[01:05] <thompa> its only in kubuntu 64
[01:05] <jontec> not enough memory on this compy to run vmware in linux... and my use of kubuntu is too much to run kubuntu from within windows
[01:06] <clyrrad> I have a bunch of pcf.gz files in /usr/share/fonts/X11 - but I assume these are teh files I need only compressed - can anyone tell me how to install them?
[01:06] <jontec> I've got 1.2Ghz and 384MB memory... not enough to do much of anything on here.
[01:07] <clyrrad> can anybody help me out??
[01:07] <thompa> i cant mute the sound either it wont stop
[01:08] <Bubba_Gump> clyrrad, have you searched the internet for a few possible answers?
[01:08] <brobison> clyrrad: Have you checked to see what is in the zip?  i.e. gzip -t pcf.gz
[01:08] <clyrrad> I have been all over Google for hours
[01:08] <clyrrad> no luck
[01:09] <Bubba_Gump> I'll be happy to know an outcome <learning linux you see :)
[01:09] <brobison> and where did you get these pcf.gz files....?
[01:09] <thompa> how do i turn off the system sounds
[01:10] <brobison> thompa, did you try:  SystemSettings, Sound System, uncheck Enable the sound system ?
[01:11] <thompa> yes
[01:11] <clyrrad> does anyone have these fonts intalled?
[01:11] <Bubba_Gump> thompa: i think it may be in notifications
[01:11] <clyrrad> I only had this problem since installing Edgy
[01:11] <thompa> brobison: its repeating constantly
[01:11] <Bubba_Gump> which ones are you hoping to turn off?
[01:11] <clyrrad> on Dapper I never had this issue
[01:11] <brobison> clyrrad, i am running edgy and do not see the pcf.gz files.....
[01:12] <clyrrad> look in /usr/share/fonts/X11
[01:12] <brobison> i did
[01:12] <clyrrad> this makes no sense then....
[01:12] <clyrrad> why would I have them....
[01:12] <Bubba_Gump> thompa: go to system settings > notifications , then, turn off all sounds
[01:13] <shadowhywind> does anyone know how to compile the kernel with uinput support
[01:13] <LastMall> clyrrad  update install ?
[01:13] <clyrrad> brobison... where are your fonts?
[01:13] <clyrrad> LastMall - what do you mean?
[01:13] <LastMall> clyrrad  did you do an update install or a clean install ?
[01:13] <clyrrad> clean install
[01:14] <brobison> clyrrad - i have directories there
[01:14] <clyrrad> go into the directory misc
[01:14] <clyrrad> what do you see?
[01:14] <brobison> clyrrad -- ahh... I see them there
[01:14] <brobison> I suspect they are accessible in gzip format by the font server
[01:14] <clyrrad> brobison - can you try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base
[01:15] <clyrrad> i get this error
[01:15] <clyrrad> Setting up xfonts-base (1.0.0-3ubuntu1) ...
[01:15] <clyrrad> warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory
[01:15] <E[m] ess> if i have 2 computers ona  network that need updating and one downloaded all the edgy files, can the other read them from it or does it also need to download 800mb?
[01:15] <brobison> clyrrad - and yet you said misc is a directory?
[01:15] <clyrrad> even if you try to create that directory it does not work
[01:16] <clyrrad> I would imagine misc would be a directory yes
[01:16] <brobison> but you dont have that directory?
[01:16] <clyrrad> can anyone else on Edgy confirm if they get the same problem trying to install the xfonts-base?
[01:16] <clyrrad> nope
[01:16] <clyrrad> its not there
[01:16] <clyrrad> I even tried to create it
[01:16] <brobison> do you have any directories in that fonts/X11 dir?
[01:16] <clyrrad> but I get the same error
[01:16] <Bubba_Gump> E[m] less: could you copy the files across to the computer that has yet to get edgy?
[01:17] <clyrrad> yes i do
[01:17] <clyrrad> 100dpi  75dpi  encodings  fonts.cache-1  misc  Type1  util
[01:17] <thompa> sounds ok now, it went nuts and i had to reboot, seems its a 64 bit glitch
[01:17] <brobison> so, is misc there or not -- looks like it is? --
[01:17] <clyrrad> yes its tehre in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc
[01:17] <clyrrad> and inside it has a bunch of .pcf.gz files
[01:18] <brobison> ok -- as far as I know that is correct, what is the problem?
[01:18] <clyrrad> problem is I cant install the fonts
[01:18] <E[m] ess> Bubba_Gump: if i knew where tehy were i could, and where on the remote to put them
[01:18] <brobison> how do you know they are not there?  Are you saying you cannot use the fonts?
[01:18] <clyrrad> yes when I try to use vnc it complains the fonts are missing
[01:19] <Bubba_Gump> I think you may have to download them again
[01:19] <thompa> ok system notifications . found sound there
[01:19] <clyrrad> brobison: were you able to run that command?
[01:20] <clyrrad> or did you get the same error as me?
[01:20] <brobison> i have not tried to re-install yet, still want to see exactly what is going on -- I think the xfonts-base appears to be OK
[01:20] <brobison> you could look at /var/lib/dpgk/info/xfonts-base.list and see the list of what is included....
[01:21] <clyrrad> if they are there the --reinstall shoudl work with out giving an error
[01:21] <brobison> also, if you do xlsfonts do you not see the fonts you want?  Which specific one (s) is it complaining about?
[01:21] <clyrrad> Could not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list!
[01:21] <clyrrad> Could not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts/TTF/, removing from list!
[01:21] <clyrrad> Could not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts/OTF, removing from list!
[01:21] <clyrrad> and a few others
[01:22] <clyrrad> but its the same error
[01:22] <clyrrad> but the worst error is this one
[01:22] <clyrrad> Fatal server error:
[01:22] <clyrrad> could not open default font 'fixed'
[01:22] <Dr_willis> those are not errors - those are messages. :) the last is an error.
[01:22] <clyrrad> yes correct
[01:22] <clyrrad> but I feel they are all related
[01:22] <Dr_willis> of course i just got here... and seen that message befor in different cases
[01:22] <clyrrad> I did some google searchign and they said to reinstall the fonts
[01:23] <clyrrad> but I cant becase of the error I get with --reinstall
[01:23] <brobison> The reinstall gives warnings... not errors.  It is   mentioning some other possible font directories that are not there
[01:23] <Dr_willis> start at the begining..  what is giving you this error.
[01:23] <clyrrad> VNC
[01:23] <clyrrad> when I type vncserver
[01:23] <Dr_willis> and let me guess.. you installed tightvnc...
[01:23] <clyrrad> it writes those messages to the log file
[01:23] <clyrrad> no
[01:23] <brobison> does xlsfonts | grep fixed show that fixed is there....
[01:23] <katje> #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:23] <clyrrad> x11vnc
[01:24] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i didenet think x11vnc used the vncserver command.
[01:24] <clyrrad> im sure this is related to the fonts not being isntalled
[01:24] <clyrrad> and  sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base does not work
[01:25] <clyrrad> Setting up xfonts-base (1.0.0-3ubuntu1) ...
[01:25] <clyrrad> warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory
[01:25] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  some of the 'vncserver' scripts look for xf86conf instead of the xorg.conf file. ive seen this error many a time with various vnc packages..
[01:25] <brobison> warning != error
[01:25] <clyrrad> ok - but it stops there
[01:25] <Dr_willis>     /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc
[01:25] <klondike> clyrrad: why don't you make that dir?
[01:25] <clyrrad> I have made it
[01:25] <clyrrad> manually
[01:26] <clyrrad> it makes no difference
[01:26] <Dr_willis> is where the fonts are at under ubntu.. the vncserver script normally  gets the fonts paths from the xorg config file..  IT may be looking for the wrong x11 config file.
[01:27] <clyrrad> but i dont have the /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc
[01:27] <klondike> clyrrad and does it containa ny kind of font?
[01:27] <clyrrad> or any fonts there
[01:27] <clyrrad> .. /usr/share/X11/fonts/ is empty - not folders or fonts in tthere
[01:28] <klondike> and /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
[01:28] <Dr_willis> http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/
[01:28] <clyrrad> nope nothing there
[01:28] <clyrrad> its empty too
[01:28] <Dr_willis> x11vnc is not started by 'vncserver'
[01:29] <klondike> it's really strange
[01:29] <clyrrad> vnc4server
[01:29] <malick> how we use rpm
[01:29] <klondike> you may have any fonts there
[01:29] <Dr_willis> ls /usr/share/X11/fonts/
[01:29] <Dr_willis> 100dpi  75dpi  encodings  fonts.cache-1  misc  Type1
[01:29] <klondike> malick:  just use alien
[01:29] <Dr_willis> hmmm
[01:29] <clyrrad> I dont seem to have any fonts there that is what is so strange
[01:30] <clyrrad> ls /usr/share/X11/fonts
[01:30] <clyrrad> misc
[01:30] <Dr_willis> Ok.. my edgy machine and dapper machine seem to differ...
[01:30] <clyrrad> cd misc
[01:30] <clyrrad> bash: cd: misc: No such file or directory
[01:30] <clyrrad> so misc is there but you cant get into it
[01:30] <malick> thanks
[01:31] <clyrrad> If I go as root I can get in there - but the misc folder is empty there are not fonts in there
[01:31] <Dr_willis> edgy -----> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/
[01:31] <clyrrad> do you have fonts in that folder on your system?
[01:31] <Dr_willis> dapper ---> ls /usr/share/X11/fonts/
[01:32] <clyrrad> Dr_willis - yes in  /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ I have files
[01:32] <clyrrad> bunch of pcf.gz files
[01:32] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  thats where the vncserver script should be looking then. I am guessing the script is defaulting to the otehr dirs by mistake
[01:32] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  so you are on edgy? or dapper?
[01:32] <clyrrad> was on dapper before - now im on a clean install of Edgy
[01:33] <malick> I want to know how we use it
[01:33] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  and you installed vnc4server?
[01:33] <clyrrad> yes
[01:33] <Dr_willis> ok.. installing that now.. to recreate the issue.
[01:33] <clyrrad> ok thanks :)
[01:33] <Dr_willis> I cant belive these vncservers are STILL having this issue.
[01:34] <Dr_willis> Ive trouble shot this a dozen times. :)
[01:34] <clyrrad> worked great on Dapper
[01:34] <Dr_willis> do a ...
[01:34] <Dr_willis> ls -l /etc/alternatives/vncserver
[01:34] <Dr_willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2006-10-29 19:34 /etc/alternatives/vncserver -> /usr/bin/vnc4server
[01:35] <clyrrad> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2006-10-28 23:38 /etc/alternatives/vncserver -> /usr/bin/vnc4server
[01:35] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  ive had issued with all the differnt vnc servers under dapper/edgy. :) vnc4 used to work fine.. tightvnc had the font issue.. heh
[01:35] <clyrrad> looks good
[01:36] <clyrrad> how do you start your x11vnc?
[01:36] <Dr_willis> could not open default font 'fixed'
[01:36] <Dr_willis> xsetroot:  unable to open display 'audigy:1'
[01:36] <Dr_willis> ok same error.. NOW lets look at the vncserver script.. :)
[01:36] <clyrrad> yea i been getting those too
[01:36] <Dr_willis> this is the same OLD error ive trouble shot a dozen times. :)
[01:36] <clyrrad> what did you type to get that error?
[01:38] <Dr_willis> looked at the vncserver logs. :)
[01:38] <Dr_willis> now looking at the vncserver script.
[01:38] <clyrrad> what are you using to try and start your x11vnc server?
[01:39] <Dr_willis> I dont mess with x11vnc thats not started by vncserver :)
[01:39] <Dr_willis> x11vnc is a different beast from what i am reading on its docs.
[01:40] <clyrrad> its what I used on Dapper
[01:40] <Dr_willis> I use vnc all the time  - ive never had to use x11vnc, it depends on what/how you are connecting/doing with the vncserver stuff.
[01:40] <clyrrad> Well I used tightvnc before too but its WAY too slow
[01:41] <clyrrad> so swithced and it worked on Dapper great
[01:41] <Cyron> Ok, who's willing to help a newb sort out his refresh rates in Kubuntu?
[01:41] <clyrrad> I used Xvnc too and was able to start sessions using :1 instead of :0 dispaly
[01:41] <clyrrad> so it was great
[01:41] <flaccid> whats the problem
[01:42] <knock12> hello :)
[01:42] <flaccid> hi
[01:42] <knock12> I have a big question. I have changed the standard kubuntu kde theme by selecting another. How can I restore the standard kde theme? :(
[01:42] <Cyron> Well basically, I've installed the nvidia beta drivers, and in gnome, I get my nice high resolutions and high refresh rates.   KDE loads in my high resolution (1280x1024) but it only does it at 65Hz or something
[01:43] <Cyron> 85Hz isn't even in my resolution options
[01:43] <Cyron> Though if I change it to 50Hz, it actually goes to 85Hz
[01:43] <Cyron> But I have to do that manually each time I load KDE
[01:43] <flaccid> i start my x11vnc in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup with /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -shared -rfbauth /root/.vncpasswd -rfbport 5900 -bg -o /var/log/x11vnc
[01:43] <clyrrad> Dr_willis: it was actually the XDMCP that allowed me to start the remote sessions using :1 0 but that no longer works
[01:44] <clyrrad> flaccid - yep I had that on Dapper too
[01:44] <clyrrad> so it autostarted
[01:45] <Dr_willis> from what i am gathering the vncserver script/configs are not parsing the correct info for the font paths.
[01:45] <flaccid> clyrrad: so your problem is XDMCP/remote X and not vnc at all?
[01:46] <clyrrad> well remote access to teh desktop over VNC is what I am trying to get working
[01:46] <paul00257> can someone help me get wine installed i can see it in adept installer but it is grayed out and i cant install it
[01:46] <knock12> no one knowing how to restore the default kubuntu kde theme? :/
[01:46] <flaccid> clyrrad: isn't that what vnc gives you?
[01:46] <clyrrad> I have VNC on my laptop (windoze) and x11vnc on the kubuntu desktop im trying to connect to
[01:46] <flaccid> knock12: there is no default theme, but various styles are selected
[01:46] <clyrrad> no vnc wont even connect
[01:46] <Dr_willis> you could edit the vnc.conf file to set them manually, they are  set by default to read the XF86Config not the xorg.conf which is odd.
[01:47] <flaccid> clyrrad: what is the error?
[01:47] <clyrrad> cant connect
[01:47] <Raven301> !codec
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <flaccid> it should give an error code, clyrrad
[01:47] <clyrrad> its becase the x11vnc server does not seem to be running
[01:47] <clyrrad> no error corde
[01:47] <clyrrad> code
[01:47] <flaccid> how about 100061 or something?
[01:48] <clyrrad> just said "Failed to conenct to server"
[01:48] <clyrrad> no error code
[01:48] <flaccid> is x11vnc running and is firewall allowing?
[01:48] <clyrrad> does kubuntu have a firewall by default?
[01:48] <flaccid> can't remember. iirc it doesn't
[01:49] <clyrrad> i dont see the x11vnc service running
[01:49] <clyrrad> ps aux |grep vnc
[01:49] <flaccid> x11vnc is not a service unless you made it into a service
[01:49] <clyrrad> nothing shows
[01:49] <flaccid> ok, then you might want to run it first, clyrrad :)
[01:49] <clyrrad> yea I have done all this :p
[01:49] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  try a ..........         sudo ln -s /usr/share/fonts/X11/ /usr/share/X11/fonts
[01:50] <t3hwiz0rd> wow
[01:50] <Dr_willis> that just worked for me. vncserver script now works..
[01:50] <flaccid> clyrrad: then when you run x11vnc from command line, you have problem?
[01:50] <clyrrad> Dr_willlis I just added that
[01:51] <Dr_willis> i now have vncserver (the vnc4server variant) working.. now to check on x11vnc :)
[01:51] <clyrrad> it still does not work for me
[01:51] <clyrrad> flaccid: checking
[01:51] <flaccid> Dr_willis: what package is that vncserver from?
[01:51] <clyrrad> its showing 1 2 3 4...
[01:52] <clyrrad> and the x11vnc is still not running
[01:52] <clyrrad> i checked with ps aux |grep vnc
[01:52] <flaccid> did it exit after that?
[01:52] <Dr_willis> vnc4server
[01:52] <clyrrad> yes im back to cml now
[01:52] <Dr_willis> x11vnc seems really screwed.. i set a password for it as it asks.. it still aint seeing it.. its also ignoreing the command line arguments
[01:52] <flaccid> why does it exit... there is your problem
[01:53] <flaccid> Dr, i use -rfbauth /root/.vncpasswd to specify the password file
[01:53] <clyrrad> it does not seem to exit with an error
[01:53] <flaccid> i aint had a problem with x11vnc to be honest
[01:53] <clyrrad> are you on Edgy?
[01:53] <flaccid> yep im on edgy
[01:53] <clyrrad> hrmm.....
[01:54] <clyrrad> this is drivng me nuts LOL
[01:54] <clyrrad> so you can start a remote x session on :1 ??
[01:55] <clyrrad> *** x11vnc was unable to open the X DISPLAY: ":0", it cannot continue.
[01:55] <clyrrad> *** There may be "Xlib:" error messages above with details about the failure.
[01:55] <flaccid> so you do have an errror...
[01:55] <flaccid> what command are you using
[01:55] <Dr_willis> heh i got x11vnc -display 0    to work..
[01:55] <clyrrad> it appears so
[01:55] <clyrrad> x11vnc
[01:55] <sorush20> !guten
[01:55] <flaccid> i just use it on display 0 with: /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -shared -rfbauth /root/.vncpasswd -rfbport 5900 -bg -o /var/log/x11vnc
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guten - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <sorush20> !gutenprint
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gutenprint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <clyrrad> flaccid - I cant get it to start at all
[01:56] <flaccid> have you googled the errors and worked on that
[01:57] <clyrrad> I have been on google for about 6 hours today trying to trouble shoot this
[01:57] <clyrrad> i came here as a last resort
[01:57] <flaccid> well if its any consolation. the x display errors about not being able to connect to the x server appear to be common in edgy
[01:58] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  it seems to be workign for me now that i made that link..   i shared the desktop..  i was on. and connected to it with a vncclient program.
[01:58] <flaccid> clyrrad: patebin the whole output of x11vnc
[01:58] <clyrrad> that is becase you are logged into the desktop
[01:58] <clyrrad> log out and try and start a remote desktop
[01:58] <E[m] ess> hi, when doing "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal" as per teh guide, i got an error that it couldnt be done due to unmet dependencies, which followed onto saying that xorg wont be installed because it is missing packages
[01:58] <clyrrad> flaccid okay
[01:58] <Dr_willis> Yes.. x11vnc shares the currently running desktop - from what i am reading in the man pages/docs.
[01:59] <flaccid> E[m] ess: that is a bug
[01:59] <E[m] ess> flaccid: is there a way to fix it? i need xorg 7.1
[01:59] <flaccid> E[m] ess: google will find it
[01:59] <Raven301> ! extracodec
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extracodec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <Raven301> ! extra
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <flaccid> E[m] ess: i honestly can't remember how i got round it, but my situation was a little bit different to everyone else
[02:00] <clyrrad> ok here it is: http://pastebin.ca/228359
[02:01] <E[m] ess> ok, konqueror isnt working either, im getting
[02:01] <E[m] ess> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[02:01] <E[m] ess>  klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[02:01] <clyrrad> Dr_willis - I want it to start a new desktop
[02:01] <E[m] ess> sorry for the flood there
[02:01] <clyrrad> on :1 like how it did on Dapper
[02:01] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  from what i am reading in the x11vnc docs.. it dont do that..
[02:01] <clyrrad> it does
[02:01] <clyrrad> with some help
[02:01] <clyrrad> with XDMCP
[02:02] <RawSewageLT> what app would I use to scan folders for duplicate files
[02:02] <Dr_willis> clyrrad, if you say so.. ive only had the normal vnc4server set up where it would auto-spawn me a new kdm session whenever i vnced into a box.
[02:02] <clyrrad> the problem with that is....
[02:02] <Dr_willis> i dident want people looking at what i was doing.. so i liked the virtual sessions way of doing it.
[02:02] <clyrrad> lets say your in a remote session - and you need to reboot the PC
[02:03] <flaccid> clyrrad: if you want to do that, use vncserver (Xvnc). x11vnc is really for display 0
[02:03] <clyrrad> you cant reconnect with out manually being infront of the PC to login and start the session
[02:03] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  actually you just ssh in, and run vncserver.
[02:03] <navaburo> ?When in insert the kubuntu cd and reboot, it hangs at the loading screen
[02:03] <navaburo> What do i dod?
[02:03] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  Or like i did have inetd or xinetd auto start the vncserver as needed.
[02:03] <clyrrad> flaccid: i used this sudo apt-get install vnc4server xinetd
[02:03] <flaccid> X11vnc is a vnc server and xserver in 1
[02:04] <flaccid> err
[02:04] <flaccid> i mean xvnc is a vnc server and xserver in 1
[02:04] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  im getting a headache :)
[02:04] <clyrrad> just not sure why the VNC server is not starting
[02:05] <navaburo> Anyone know the key to press to make the detailed startup information appear when kubuntu install cd boots?
[02:05] <navaburo> Mine hangs so i want to know what is freezing it
[02:05] <Dr_willis> vnc4server is not the same as x11vnc   , correct flaccid ? the 2 are similer tools but unrelated?
[02:06] <flaccid> the easiest way to get this going is install xtightvncviewer. run the command vncserver and then you are done
[02:06] <flaccid> Dr_willis: correct
[02:06] <flaccid> i belive in this case vnc4server and tightvncserver are pretty similar
[02:06] <clyrrad> flaccid: will that allow me to start remote x sessions?
[02:06] <catmince> Hi there, i was wondering if someone can help me? I'm trying to install Firefox but I have NO idea what to do (I only just installed Kubuntu and haven't used ANY form of Linux Before)
[02:06] <kkathman> which repo package is firefox2 ??
[02:06] <flaccid> clyrrad: vnc != remote X
[02:06] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  heh -- ive found tightvncserver had issues with the font paths.. or course so does vnc4server now. :)
[02:06] <kkathman> is it just firefox ??
[02:07] <clyrrad> flaccid: yea but its what I am trying to accomplish
[02:07] <flaccid> remote x is remote x, vnc is vnc they are tottally differnt
[02:07] <catmince> Yes.
[02:07] <clyrrad> kkathman sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[02:07] <T3hWiz0rd> !paste
[02:07] <flaccid> clyrrad: what you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with vnc. but i have a feeling you want xvnc on display 1...
[02:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:07] <T3hWiz0rd> !paste
[02:07] <clyrrad> flaccid the remote x part is the problem
[02:08] <kkathman> clyrrad:  but that says its a "transistion"
[02:08] <flaccid> clyrrad: no the problem is that remote X != vnc!!!!
[02:08] <flaccid> for example i type vnserver and i get New 'X' desktop is lister:1
[02:08] <kkathman> mozilla-firefox - Transition package for firefox rename
[02:08] <clyrrad> ok before I had the service runnign in the backgroud and I connected with VNC on my windoze machine
[02:09] <clyrrad> and was able to start a new kde session on display :1
[02:09] <flaccid> clyrrad: ok, do not use remote X in anything you say. because you are talking vnc...
[02:10] <Cyron> catmince:  sudo aptitude install firefox will do it
[02:10] <clyrrad> ok - so what can I do to fix this - I just want to do how i had on Dapper
[02:10] <ErikTheRed> anyone here familiar with nvidia tv-out?
[02:10] <Dr_willis> ErikTheRed,  ive fought with it befor. :)
[02:10] <Dr_willis> ErikTheRed,  used the twinview stuff and cloned my desktop to it.
[02:11] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install tightvncserver and then run vncserver
[02:11] <clyrrad> ok so it stais desktop is :1
[02:11] <Dr_willis> ErikTheRed,  then i learned to lookat/use -->  nvidia-xconfig  -A
[02:11] <clyrrad> so that ran
[02:11] <clyrrad> now how do I connect to it from windoze?
[02:11] <Dr_willis> vncviweer ip:1
[02:12] <flaccid> clyrrad: ipaddress:1'
[02:12] <clyrrad> yea thats not working
[02:12] <clyrrad> that has been my problem all along
[02:12] <flaccid> try ipaddress:5901
[02:12] <clyrrad> ok
[02:12] <flaccid> the question is why, clyrrad
[02:12] <flaccid> its not the problem all along coz x11vnc wasn't going for you etc...
[02:12] <catmince> Cyron: Okay, I tried that it says "No Packages will be updated, installed or removed"
[02:12] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  earlier i noticed the vnc4server was not getting the font path correctly..  I fixed it with that ln command i gave way earlier.
[02:12] <clyrrad> sais failed to connect to server
[02:12] <Dr_willis> i used a -->  sudo ln -s /usr/share/fonts/X11/ /usr/share/X11/fonts
[02:13] <clyrrad> I am not able to connect to :1
[02:13] <flaccid> Dr_willis: that is common with vnc4server and tightvnc
[02:13] <flaccid> clyrrad: we know that already
[02:13] <clyrrad> are you able to?
[02:14] <clyrrad> from a windoze machine?
[02:14] <flaccid> pastebin the output of sudo netstat -tap | grep -i vnc
[02:14] <clyrrad> no output
[02:14] <flaccid> yes i can from windows
[02:14] <flaccid> its not listening
[02:14] <clyrrad> nope
[02:15] <flaccid> how about ps aux | grep vnc
[02:15] <clyrrad> nothing
[02:15] <yokobr> hi
[02:15] <yokobr> how do i mount my iso file??
[02:15] <Dr_willis> !loop
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <Dr_willis> !iso
[02:15] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[02:15] <flaccid> clyrrad: they are not staying in memory obviously. i have no idea how to troubleshoot it
[02:15] <Dr_willis> yokobr,  good enogh for ya? :)
[02:16] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  the vncserver has logs. :)
[02:16] <clyrrad> flaccid - ok thanks anyway
[02:16] <E[m] ess> !xorg
[02:16] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:16] <clyrrad> Dr_willis which log file are you looking at?
[02:16] <flaccid> you can always check logs yes
[02:16] <Dr_willis> .vnc/whatever.log
[02:16] <flaccid> usually go into ~/.vnc/
[02:16] <Dr_willis> be sure to remove the old logs befor reruning vncserver again
[02:17] <clyrrad> ok let me see what it shows
[02:17] <clyrrad> Fatal server error:
[02:17] <clyrrad> could not open default font 'fixed'
[02:17] <clyrrad> xrdb: Connection refused
[02:17] <clyrrad> xrdb: Can't open display 'pcnatalia:1'
[02:18] <clyrrad> brings me back to the font error
[02:19] <momo> hi
[02:20] <Dr_willis> so we are back to kicking the vncserver in the head and making it use the right font paths. :)
[02:20] <clyrrad> yep looks that way
[02:20] <clyrrad> this is what been driving me nuts all day
[02:20] <Dr_willis> or setting links so it is using the  correct font paths.
[02:20] <Dr_willis> you did use that 'ln' command i gave earlier?
[02:21] <Dr_willis> >  sudo ln -s /usr/share/fonts/X11/ /usr/share/X11/fonts
[02:21] <clyrrad> i ran that before
[02:22] <clyrrad> that link already exists
[02:22] <BluesKaj> Can anyone tell me why my CPU runs at half speed in Edgy ?
[02:23] <unix_infidel> it quantitatively measeures at half speed?
[02:23] <E[m] ess> still getting this error when i try to update my kubuntu-desktop for edgy: kubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed
[02:23] <E[m] ess> E: Broken packages
[02:23] <flaccid> clyrrad: Couldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path. Please set correct fontPath in the vncserver script.
[02:24] <Ash-Fox> What port did cups listen on again for http connections?
[02:24] <flaccid> E[m] ess: did you google yet.
[02:24] <flaccid> ash 631
[02:24] <clyrrad> flaccid: sorry what did you mean?
[02:24] <Ash-Fox> flaccid, thanks =)
[02:24] <E[m] ess> i did, and only found that packages are conflicting
[02:24] <Dr_willis>     ls -l /usr/share/X11   shows -->           lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    21 2006-10-29 19:49 fonts -> /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[02:24] <E[m] ess> i had to use a new browser because konqueror is broken formt eh upgrade
[02:24] <Dr_willis> Ash-Fox,  that may be disabled - where you can see the stuff.. but not do a lot with it.
[02:25] <Ash-Fox> Dr_willis, seems to be working fine
[02:25] <clyrrad> I just rand this command: sudo fc-cache -fv
[02:25] <clyrrad> and updated a bunch of stuff
[02:25] <clyrrad> got rid of some errors
[02:25] <clyrrad> I have only 1 error left now
[02:25] <clyrrad> Fatal server error:
[02:25] <clyrrad> could not open default font 'fixed'
[02:25] <clyrrad> ~
[02:26] <BluesKaj> unix_infidel, k-info center list my cpu at 1000mhz ...when it should be 2000 mhz
[02:26] <oeb> the story:
[02:26] <oeb> install Kubuntu 6.06 lts
[02:26] <oeb> lucent modem works
[02:26] <oeb> shutdown
[02:26] <oeb> push in ethernet card
[02:26] <oeb> fire up laptop at LILAX linux lug
[02:26] <oeb>  use apt-get to update
[02:26] <oeb>  and install programs ie mozilla-firefox, xchat, etc.
[02:27] <Dr_willis> Ash-Fox,  see if the changes actually take effect.. it used to be sort of disabled. I hope it got put back to normal.
[02:27] <oeb> all install and work correctly
[02:27] <oeb> shutdown
[02:27] <oeb> try to use modem at home no connection, no modem no modules
[02:27] <oeb>  FORMAT REINSTALL
[02:27] <oeb> lucent modem again works
[02:27] <oeb>  shutdown
[02:27] <oeb> push in wifi card
[02:27] <oeb> fire up at library
[02:27] <oeb> wifi card works
[02:27] <oeb>  use adept to update
[02:27] <oeb>  and install ie mozilla-firefox, xchat, etc.
[02:27] <oeb>  all install and work correctly
[02:27] <oeb> shutdown
[02:27] <Jucato> !enter | oeb
[02:27] <ubotu> oeb: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:27] <oeb>  try to use modem at home no connection, no modem no modules
[02:27] <oeb> after sudo modprobe lt_serial or lt_modem
[02:27] <oeb> get module lt_modem or lt_serial not found
[02:27] <oeb> 
[02:27] <oeb> lt_modem and lt_serial are in
[02:27] <oeb> /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.15-23-386
[02:27] <oeb> uname shows 2.6.15.27-386
[02:27] <oeb> can anybody help with this problem?
[02:27] <clyrrad> nice Flood
[02:27] <flaccid> oeb: please leave the channel
[02:28] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: that's the powernowd daemon.
[02:28] <BluesKaj> hey oeb, ever heard of pastebin?
[02:28] <flaccid> E[m] ess: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=ubuntu+edgy+upgrade+dependencies+xorg&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[02:28] <BluesKaj> unix_infidel, what does that mean ?
[02:28] <E[m] ess> flaccid: aparently its caused by the beerorkid repo, thanks for making me repeatedly google till i found that, got a workaround now :)
[02:28] <clyrrad> oeb: flooding not a good way to get help
[02:28] <flaccid> E[m] ess: yes much on google. people with different situations etc.
[02:29] <seishinbyou> Gah, widescreen resolutions seemed like such a nice idea at the time.  I wish it could display the more standard res's's
[02:29] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: it means taht when you dont need your CPU to be at 2ghz it wont be, as it'll save battery and lower heat.
[02:29] <unix_infidel> when you need it to be faster, your computer will recognize that and make itself faster.
[02:29] <Dr_willis> 'faster, stronger, better then it was befor....'
[02:29] <BluesKaj> cool, thx unix_infidel ...good to know :)
[02:30] <oeb> sorry im quite new at this how do I enter in xchat without the enter key
[02:30] <clyrrad> Dr_willis: did you find that 'fixed" font on your system?
[02:30] <Ash-Fox> Dr_willis, the only problem with it, is that it requires you set a root password to add a printer (asks for a login at the end, whereby only root is accepted)
[02:30] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  yes.. its in that one dir i had the link going to
[02:31] <Dr_willis>  i used  'locate fixed | grep font' to find it
[02:31] <clyrrad> I dont have it
[02:31] <clyrrad> hrm....
[02:31] <clyrrad> can you check
[02:31] <clyrrad> is it a symlink or a file?
[02:33] <E[m] ess> getting errors with acpid and acpid-support still
[02:33] <mz_masterzaxxon> question: would it be stupid of me to install xinetd on my dapper system just to start swat or is there a better, more "ubuntu" way?
[02:34] <clyrrad> Dr_willis you still here?
[02:35] <Dr_willis>   /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc
[02:35] <felixjet> off topic, anyone know barry white commertial songs? im looking for one that everybody listened but dunno the name
[02:35] <Dr_willis> is whgere the fonts are at.. they are defined in the fonts.alias file
[02:35] <clyrrad> is that a file or a link?
[02:35] <Dr_willis> there is no 'fixed' font file persay - it seems..
[02:36] <clyrrad> could not open default font 'fixed'
[02:36] <Dr_willis> fixed        -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
[02:36] <Dr_willis> the fixed font is defined in a fonts.alias
[02:36] <clyrrad> ok where did you see that?
[02:36] <Dr_willis> vi /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/fonts.alias
[02:37] <clyrrad> yea i have that line too
[02:37] <oeb> can anyone help with the LT_Modem on the laptop , I didn't realize cutting and pasting would cause that mess
[02:37] <clyrrad> wow this is really frustrating :p
[02:39] <E[m] ess> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Pc49hJ50.html <--here, no idea whats wrong
[02:39] <E[m] ess> anyone got a clue?
[02:40] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  i would double check the paths.. then if all else fails.. create a new 'vncserver' script (copy the old one) and manually set the right font paths.. OR edit the /etc/vnc.conf  and put them in there manually
[02:40] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  i also copied the xorg.conf to /etc/X11/XF86Config
[02:40] <clyrrad> yea im checking the paths I dont know what to look for: I found this http://www.mail-archive.com/xfree86@xfree86.org/msg20842.html
[02:40] <flaccid> E[m] ess: dont' know. personally i'd, remove acpi and then put it back after upgrade.
[02:41] <E[m] ess> what does it actually do?
[02:42] <Dr_willis>  the right paths are  /usr/share/fonts/X11/*
[02:42] <clyrrad> yea i have that in my xorg.conf
[02:44] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  from what i am reading the vncserver script wrongly looks for the font paths in  /etc/X11/XF86Config  not /etc/X11/xorg.conf  so you may want to either copy that file over to the old name.. or edit the vncserver script to look in the right place.
[02:44] <Shivs> Hi room, i need help installing nvidia drivers in kubuntu
[02:44] <Hawkwind> !nvidia | Shivs
[02:44] <ubotu> Shivs: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:44] <clyrrad> so did you just create that directory?
[02:44] <clyrrad> .. /etc/X11/XF86Config
[02:45] <clyrrad> or idd you just copy xorg.conf and name it as XF86Config?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> i copied xorg.conf to XF86Config, and made that link
[02:46] <seishinbyou> Question : How do you set the actual desktop size larger than what you can display (read: scrollable)?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> just the copy did not seem to work..
[02:46] <Dr_willis> so i then made the link and it worked.
[02:46] <clyrrad> which link?
[02:46] <Shivs> The nvidia installer says dat i need a compiler or sumting 2 dat effect
[02:46] <clyrrad> the one we alrady made?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  that font link that i posted 10 times now. :P
[02:46] <clyrrad> to the fonts folders?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> tripple check it. heh
[02:46] <Dr_willis> be sure ya dident get it backwards
[02:46] <clyrrad> just checking :)
[02:46] <Dr_willis> i ALWAYS get them backwards
[02:47] <Dr_willis> and dont ask me why the fonts dirs keep getting moved around. :)
[02:48] <Dr_willis> ls -l /usr/share/X11       ---------- shows me ----->          lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    21 2006-10-29 19:49 fonts -> /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[02:48] <Dr_willis> showing that fonts dir is a link to  /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[02:48] <Dr_willis> which seems odd. now that i look at it.,
[02:49] <clyrrad> yea to me too
[02:49] <Dr_willis> /usr/share/X11/fonts is a link to  /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[02:49] <Dr_willis> but its working.. lol..
[02:49] <Dr_willis> i got a headache now
[02:50] <Shivs> Maybe the font folder is different in sum distro's
[02:50] <clyrrad> for me /usr/share/X11/fonts is a folder
[02:50] <clyrrad> how about for you?
[02:50] <clyrrad> then inside there i have a link like this X11 -> /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[02:51] <Dr_willis> /usr/share/fonts/X11     - is a link to itself...
[02:51] <Dr_willis> wtf is that all about
[02:51] <Dr_willis> cd /usr/share/fonts/X11/X11/X11/X11$
[02:51] <Dr_willis> cd /usr/share/fonts/X11/X11/X11/X11
[02:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:51] <T3hWiz0rd> anyone know why my system now freezes on kde boot?
[02:51] <T3hWiz0rd> its stuc kon instalizing services
[02:51] <clyrrad> this on your system you mean?
[02:52] <Erich-K> Hello
[02:52] <T3hWiz0rd> it will not bouhg
[02:52] <T3hWiz0rd> wtf
[02:52] <Shivs> Linux needs 2 iron out alot of those stuff so end users dnt have much configuration 2 do
[02:52] <Erich-K> Is there a guide to show me how to change the grub splash image?
[02:52] <Dr_willis> Shivs,  linux isent really involoved in it.. its a X11 thing. :P
[02:53] <Dr_willis> it may be the 'fsb' has decided where they should be.. and thats where they are now going to.
[02:53] <Dr_willis> err LSB i mean
[02:53] <Dr_willis> not sure.. but dapper and edgy do have fonts in differnt places.
[02:53] <clyrrad> so im not sure how to get this owrking
[02:53] <Shivs> I mean the os as a whole.
[02:53] <clyrrad> I have done what you did
[02:53] <clyrrad> still not working
[02:54] <flaccid> clyrrad: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-267980.html
[02:54] <flaccid> like i said before set the font path in vnc.conf :)
[02:55] <Shivs> How do i install offline content on kubuntu?
[02:55] <clyrrad> flaccid: i dont have a vnc.conf file
[02:55] <flaccid> you don't have /etc/vnc.conf?
[02:56] <Erich-K> How do I change the grub splash image?
[02:56] <Shivs> Can grub do dat? I thawt lilo used images.
[02:57] <flaccid> yes grub can do that
[02:57] <clyrrad> flaccid: correct I dont have that
[02:57] <Shivs> Wow-u learn stuff everyday wit linux
[02:57] <flaccid> i forget the command to see what package vnc.conf came from
[02:58] <flaccid> clyrrad: do you have vnc-common installed?
[02:58] <clyrrad> nope
[02:58] <clyrrad> i do now :)
[02:59] <seishinbyou> Just checking, but "tune2fs -c 0 (hard disk)" will turn off the check, right?
[02:59] <clyrrad> there we go now i have it /etc/vnc.conf
[02:59] <flaccid> i'm not sure if they are related
[02:59] <Dr_willis>    /usr/share/X11/fonts   vs   /usr/share/fonts
[03:00] <Shivs> Is it true dat kubuntu cant play dvds/mp3 or use java appz?
[03:00] <postangcslv> Shivs: not at all
[03:01] <Dr_willis> Shivs,  i use java and play dvd and play mp3's
[03:01] <Shivs> Then y wudnt it work 4 me?
[03:01] <Dr_willis> Shivs,  i would guess you dudent install the extra packages needed
[03:01] <gaurav> i did a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, now i get a error message 'Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation.', what could be the problem?
[03:01] <Dr_willis> !java
[03:01] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:01] <Dr_willis> for a start.
[03:01] <flaccid> Shivs: not installed by default as they are not free
[03:01] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[03:01] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:02] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[03:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:02] <postangcslv> Shivs: look at automatix2 for dvd and video codec stuff
[03:02] <Zoohouse> Why does ubuntu force check my hard drive every 30th mount??
[03:02] <Dr_willis> also check the Kubuntu homepage and its FAQ.
[03:02] <Dr_willis> Zoohouse,  to verify its ok.
[03:02] <Dr_willis> Zoohouse,  thats changeable  with the tune2fs command
[03:03] <Zoohouse> Dr_willis: thanks :)
[03:03] <Dr_willis> when you have month+ of uptimes... 30 mounts can be a LONG time.
[03:03] <clyrrad> flaccid: ok paths set still no change something else must be missing....
[03:03] <Shivs> Oh i have 2 install extra stuff. Nt cool. -i dnt have a net connection. Can i use rpm's 2 install this stuff?
[03:04] <Zoohouse> Yea but I turn off my pc every night and when I go to work
[03:04] <Dr_willis> kubuntu dosent use rpms.. it uses apt-get
[03:04] <postangcslv> Shivs: use dpkg
[03:05] <Shivs> Dpkg? Wats dat? Im a newbie mind me.
[03:05] <postangcslv> dpkg is the debian equivalent of rpm - type "man dpkg"
[03:06] <inteliwasp> i installed edgy but i am having quite a few problems namely to start with, wireless access... how can i manually install a deb file?
[03:06] <LjL> !automatix | postangcslv, Shivs
[03:06] <ubotu> postangcslv, Shivs: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[03:06] <Shivs> I thawt dat was *.Deb files
[03:06] <Jucato> LjL: looks like the factoid has been changed :)
[03:06] <postangcslv> bs
[03:06] <LjL> Jucato: oh really? i didn't notice
[03:07] <Jucato> Shivs: rpm is both the package and the command to install the package. .deb is the package, dpkg is the command to install it
[03:07] <bobbyyu> What's a good source to get vlc?
[03:07] <bobbyyu> IJ'm using Dapper, by the way
[03:07] <Hawkwind> !info vlc dapper
[03:07] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[03:07] <Hawkwind> bobbyyu: It's in universe
[03:08] <Jucato> LjL: the original factoid had links to the Automatix channel and home page.
[03:08] <oeb> can anyone help for an lt_modem failing after an update?
[03:08] <bobbyyu> There are many universe sources out there
[03:08] <clyrrad> flaccid: are you still here?
[03:08] <bobbyyu> Can you give me an example?
[03:08] <Hawkwind> bobbyyu: No, there is one
[03:08] <Jucato> LjL: I guess after some upgrading problems caused by Automatix and EasyUbuntu, some devs decided to change the factoid. *shrugs*
[03:09] <Hawkwind> Universe is universe is universe
[03:09] <bobbyyu> What's the URL?
[03:09] <Hawkwind> !universe | bobbyyu
[03:09] <ubotu> bobbyyu: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:09] <Jucato> bobbyyu: the primary universe repo (not -updates, not -security, not -backports
[03:09] <flaccid> yes i am
[03:10] <bobbyyu> Do you mean http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ?
[03:10] <clyrrad> in the vnc.conf file
[03:10] <Shivs> My kubuntu freezes after a while and im forced 2 reboot. I have a biostar 6100 mobo wit onboard gforce graphics.
[03:10] <clyrrad> antying else to set except the font path?
[03:10] <flaccid> dont know
[03:10] <clyrrad> hrm... ok
[03:10] <Jucato> bobbyyu: the one with plain "dapper" after that
[03:11] <inteliwasp> if i try to install a deb package, will it tell me dependency needs?
[03:11] <Jucato> bobbyyu: *not* dapper-upgrades, dapper-security, or dapper-backports. just plain dapper
[03:11] <Jucato> inteliwasp: most likely, yes.
[03:12] <E[m] ess> can anyone help? http://rafb.net/paste/results/Pc49hJ50.html i need to fix acpi
[03:15] <flaccid> i did help E[m] ess
[03:15] <flaccid> if you can't find something on google, E[m] ess then remove acpi until after the upgrade
[03:15] <E[m] ess> i tried that and it didnt work
[03:15] <flaccid> why
[03:15] <E[m] ess> because the package uses acpi for something
[03:16] <flaccid> what command did you use?
[03:17] <E[m] ess> sudo apt-get install -f
[03:17] <E[m] ess> fixing stuff as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1645421
[03:17] <bobbyyu> Hawkwind: are you telling me to enable all the universe sources?
[03:17] <E[m] ess> same error, i know the cause and how to fix it, but acpi is stopping the fix from working
[03:19] <flaccid> E[m] ess: sudo apt-get install -f will not remove acpi
[03:20] <flaccid> sudo apt-get remove acpid acpi-support will
[03:20] <sovo> please help how to install Yahoo Messenger
[03:20] <E[m] ess> oh, i meant to fix the other error, but when looking at what happens, the otehr program relies on acpi being configured
[03:20] <bobbyyu> !vlc dapper
[03:20] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[03:20] <LjL> sovo: Kopete supports the Yahoo network
[03:21] <bobbyyu> Which one is component universe?
[03:21] <sovo> yes I know
[03:21] <flaccid> you are not listening, E[m] ess?
[03:21] <sovo> but i want to install YM
[03:22] <E[m] ess> i am, il try removing acpi...again
[03:22] <BlueEagle> sovo: That just begs the question: Why?
[03:22] <inteliwasp> i am having trouble installing the drivers of my wireless card, i have a bcm43xx card (linksys)
[03:23] <sovo> i want to try YM version linux
[03:23] <sovo> when i install they need xlibs
[03:23] <Jucato> bobbyyu: didn't we tell you already? "deb http://blablah.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe"
[03:24] <Jucato> bobbyyu: it's already in the sources.list by default, you only need to enable/uncomment it
[03:24] <bobbyyu> I did that.
[03:24] <Hawkwind> Then do a sudo apt-get update
[03:24] <Jucato> did you sudo apt-get update?
[03:24] <bobbyyu> There's no vlc in those sources
[03:24] <Hawkwind> Then sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:24] <Hawkwind> bobbyyu: Yes there is, or the bot wouldn't say there was
[03:24] <bobbyyu> sudo apt-get update?
[03:24] <LjL> sovo, packages that are in the standard Ubuntu repositories are supported -- third party, weirdly packaged stuff is not. if you don't have a valid reason besides "i want to try it out", i'd recommend against it. then suit yourself...
[03:25] <bobbyyu> Didn't you think I searched?
[03:25] <sovo> ok then
[03:25] <sovo> thanks LjL
[03:25] <bobbyyu> I put vlc on the input box and nothing appears
[03:25] <Jucato> bobbyyu: did you update first before you search? sudo apt-get update or Fetch Updates in Adept
[03:25] <bobbyyu> You have to do that?
[03:25] <Jucato> bobbyyu: you must Fetch Updates first before you search, everytime you change something in sources.list
[03:26] <Jucato> bobbyyu: yes
[03:31] <bobbyyu> Sorry, I didn't know that
[03:31] <bobbyyu> No hard feelings, I hope
[03:33] <Hawkwind> bobbyyu: Jucato doesn't have feelings at all :P
[03:34] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Did you feel that :P
[03:34] <Jucato> Hawkwind: was that supposed to hurt?
[03:34] <Jucato> nope. didn't feel a thing :P
[03:34] <flaccid> any luck E[m] ess
[03:34] <Hawkwind> Hah
[03:34] <E[m] ess> yeah, the update for kubuntu-desktop and xorg is working now
[03:35] <E[m] ess> when i removed it before i only took off the support bit without realising
[03:35] <flaccid> ok
[03:36] <esaym> ugh, i got the wmv plugins for firefox working. but what do i need to get the wmv working in mplayer?
[03:36] <esaym> hate to ask that question
[03:37] <inteliwasp> !wmv
[03:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:37] <inteliwasp> esaym:  did you get that?
[03:41] <esaym> yea pretty sure, one sec let me click on all those
[03:42] <johey> Omg, so much problems when upgrading dapper to edgy... But now I have finally managed to solve that.
[03:42] <johey> It broke my Xorg.
[03:42] <Dasnipa] [> i guess im lucky, it only broke my gtk
[03:42] <Dasnipa] [> and only for one app
[03:43] <esaym> ok getting wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[03:43] <esaym> we will seee
[03:43] <Ash-Fox> !skype
[03:43] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:44] <gary_> help, i've lost my kmix control icon in the  taskbar, i can start it back up fromthe kmenu, but it's not there when i reboot
[03:44] <Ash-Fox> Okay, good, those instructions are upto date.
[03:46] <Jucato> gary_: if you're KDE session is set to "Restore from previous session", just leave it running when you logout
[03:46] <seishinbyou> The upgrade to me from Dapper to Edgy was anything but smooth, but after the fsck check and "automatic fix" destroyed my data, I was able to do a clean install with no problems
[03:46] <Jucato> gary_: if it isn't set to Restore from previous session, you have to make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:46] <Alter-Ego> what is katapult ?
[03:46] <Jucato> seishinbyou: join the club! oh, and btw, ohayou! :)
[03:46] <xsacha> alt+space :) it launches programs Alter-Ego
[03:47] <Jucato> !katapult | Alter-Ego
[03:47] <ubotu> Alter-Ego: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[03:47] <PenguinistaKC> My upgrade was pretty painless.
[03:47] <gary_> oh, that makes sense thanks jucato!
[03:47] <thompa> im having a problem with sound stuttering
[03:47] <Jucato> PenguinistaKC: you are then one of the "chosen" few. feel proud :)
[03:48] <thompa> it wont stop, like system sound
[03:48] <dude_> hello guys
[03:48] <xsacha> my upgrade was painless, i just inserted kubuntu edgy cd and installed :)
[03:48] <Jucato> lucky you :)
[03:48] <seishinbyou> Jucato: , though it is just about noon anyways
[03:48] <esaym> ok, that worked for the wmv.  thanks!
[03:48] <thompa> there is something wrong with sound in 64 though
[03:48] <Jucato> seishinbyou: omg... I see boxes again!
[03:48] <xsacha> 64?
[03:48] <Jucato> hold on...
[03:48] <thompa> i tried a different sound card same thing
[03:48] <johey> Japan! I see Japan! :D
[03:49] <xsacha> amd64? sound working fine here
[03:49] <thompa> tap tap tap
[03:49] <xsacha> what format is it thompa?
[03:49] <thompa> xsacha: i tried changing the settings from auto
[03:49] <Jucato> seishinbyou: I need utf-8 to see the correct text right?
[03:49] <xsacha> is it all sound or just a particular format like mp3?
[03:50] <thompa> xsacha: its system sound, tapping away
[03:50] <thompa> it will only stop if i reboot
[03:50] <xsacha> thompa: are you using artsd?
[03:50] <thompa> f if i know
[03:50] <seishinbyou> Jucato: I believe so
[03:51] <seishinbyou> That is to say, I don't think I'm in JP Windows standard SJIS or anything
[03:51] <thompa> xsacha: restarting sound server loops
[03:51] <thompa> it just keeps running
[03:51] <xsacha> System Settings->Sound System .. untick Enable the sound system?
[03:51] <thompa> ok
[03:51] <Lam_> after installing nvidia-glx and restarting the computer using the "nvidia" driver, the bold-faced fonts are .. too bold?  is that supposed to happen?
[03:51] <Jucato> hm... better ask in Sho_ later...
[03:51] <xsacha> use 'play' or something like that
[03:52] <RawSewage> I keep forgetting this.  whats the command to make a  .sh file that opens a Konqueror profile
[03:52] <thompa> xsacha: it wont stop after apply
[03:52] <thompa> ive tried that
[03:52] <xsacha> thompa: enable sound system is off?
[03:53] <thompa> i wonder if its cause of ubuntu
[03:53] <thompa> doesnt it not use arts or something
[03:53] <thompa> xsacha: yes its off
[03:53] <xsacha> ok go to Notifications in System Settings
[03:54] <thompa> xsacha: its not feedback or anything either , case to know
[03:54] <xsacha> go to Player Settings down bottom left corner
[03:54] <xsacha> is it no audio output?
[03:54] <thompa> ok just a sec . thanks
[03:54] <thompa> i had to shut speakers off
[03:54] <thompa> going nuts
[03:55] <Jucato> seishinbyou: can you type something in japanese again?"
[03:56] <E[m] ess> is it bad when updating packages if frontend cannot connect to xserver and falls back to dialog?
[03:56] <thompa> xsacha: where is that, im in sound system
[03:56] <xsacha> 
[03:56] <Jucato> :(
[03:56] <Jucato> still nothing.. rawr
[03:56] <xsacha> thompa: go to Notifications now, not sound system.. it'll be bottom right corner
[03:56] <thompa> ok i know, i did that too i think
[03:57] <thill2708> How can I go about implementing a two dimensional vector?
[03:57] <pacman> anyone know anything about Ktorrent?
[03:57] <xsacha> what's it on?
[03:57] <Jucato> xsacha: thanks. still boxes :(
[03:57] <thompa> kde system notifications
[03:57] <E[m] ess> i see n boxes, only hiragana
[03:57] <xsacha> Jucato: /charset utf-8 ?
[03:57] <E[m] ess> pacman: yes
[03:57] <thompa> im turning off all sounds
[03:57] <pacman> Emess: how the hell do I make it work right?
[03:58] <seishinbyou> 
[03:58] <E[m] ess> whats not working?
[03:58] <xsacha> thompa: just go to player setting and check if sound is off thee
[03:58] <seishinbyou> 
[03:58] <pacman> I'm trying to get it to download something and all it says is stalled
[03:58] <thompa> ok
[03:58] <E[m] ess> xsachas font looked cooler for me than seishinbyou's, i wonder why?
[03:58] <thompa> xsacha: it says use kde sound, cool
[03:58] <xsacha> ok try making it use no sound
[03:58] <E[m] ess> pacman: stalled means no seeds are sending you data is all, its the same as saying speed is 0.0Kb/s
[03:59] <thompa> nope weird
[03:59] <xsacha> no audio input it still makes that noise?
[03:59] <pacman> *nods*
[03:59] <pacman> how do I get it to start downloading
[03:59] <Jucato> xsacha, seishinbyou: thanks... still trying to figure this out... @_@
[03:59] <thompa> xsacha: just a sec, i need to reboot
[04:00] <thompa> i need to confirm something
[04:00] <E[m] ess> pacman: it is started, jsut no seeds are sending you anything, is it a popular torrent?
[04:00] <E[m] ess> because eitehr you have no seeds or your firewall is blocking the ports
[04:01] <pacman> I didn't think it was
[04:01] <pacman> it's starting to move now
[04:01] <seishinbyou> Too bad there isn't a Japanese-only channel around here :/
[04:01] <seishinbyou> Oh well, beggers can't be choosers
[04:01] <Jucato> :)
[04:01] <E[m] ess> just use romanji then?
[04:01] <pacman> only 8 days left...heh
[04:02] <xsacha> seishinbyou: try #japanese :)
[04:02] <Alter-Ego> heh heh, add/remove programs, set to gnome shows kde packages, set to kde shows gnome packages
[04:02] <seishinbyou> E[m] ess: Because romaji is awkward and can lead to confusion with kanji since different characters can be romanized the same way
[04:03] <E[m] ess> fair enough
[04:03] <E[m] ess> i take it your japanese then? where from?
[04:03] <seishinbyou> Kiba, Eastern part of Tokyo
[04:03] <xsacha> kiba-dock :D
[04:04] <E[m] ess> ah nice
[04:04] <Alter-Ego> bleh, add/remove programs just krashed out on me
[04:04] <Alter-Ego> no error, no warning, just closed
[04:04] <thompa> xsacha: i dnt think i have system sound now
[04:04] <xsacha> still makes annoying sound?
[04:04] <seishinbyou> Kansai-ben... 
[04:04] <seishinbyou> and other oddities
[04:04] <Alter-Ego> E[m] ess: try #japanese or #nihongo
[04:05] <knock12> hello
[04:05] <E[m] ess> Alter-Ego: id guess the people in tehre are their for technical assistance rather than waiting for someone to recruit them for anime-subbing lol
[04:05] <thompa> xsacha: cool cd player is working
[04:05] <seishinbyou> Yes, though I'm sure there are other channels for that :)
[04:05] <E[m] ess> seishinbyou: overrated for sure, but when the show im watching is in it i understand nada
[04:05] <thompa> xsacha: whats up with that is is alsa?
[04:06] <xsacha> thompa: yeah the sound you disabled was only for system notifications (like when you minimise windows and so on)
[04:06] <E[m] ess> other channels? otehr networks maybe, like 95% of rizon
[04:06] <knock12> i have a problem with edgy eft - i can't play mp3's with amarok. I've already installed the xine-extracodes. MP3's work with XMMS, but Amarok doesn't play them?
[04:06] <Alter-Ego> so did mozilla foundation get thier trademark/logo ironed out ?
[04:06] <Alter-Ego> did iceweasel die ?
[04:06] <thompa> xsacha: so its not hardware related cause im going to switch back to the nvidia
[04:06] <Jucato> knock12: libxine-extracdoecs ?
[04:06] <seishinbyou> E[m] ess: Yes, the variety comedy shows and most popular comedians use Kansai ben, but I don't watch much TV, and never really get a chance to use it here
[04:06] <seishinbyou> Closest was my Nagano-ben
[04:07] <knock12> @Jucato: yes
[04:07] <xsacha> thompa: not sure, i think it's a combination software/hardware dont like eachother -- in particular the artsd, just avoid artsd i think :)
[04:07] <T3hWiz0rd> !ati
[04:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:07] <Alter-Ego> !w32
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <E[m] ess> ah i watcha lot of anime, and they use kansai for wierd characters
[04:07] <Alter-Ego> !win32
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <thompa> xsacha: so far amd64 duo sata working flawlessly here
[04:08] <xsacha> #win32 ? #winapi for programming
[04:08] <knock12> Are the win32codecs needed to play mp3's with amarok?
[04:08] <xsacha> thompa: the sound? good :) but you dont have sounds for minimising windows and other notifications?
[04:09] <Alter-Ego> help.ubuntu.com is down ?
[04:09] <Jucato> knock12: check if Amarok is using xine as the engine
[04:09] <E[m] ess> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:09] <E[m] ess>  acpid
[04:09] <E[m] ess>  acpi-support
[04:09] <E[m] ess>  powermanagement-interface
[04:09] <E[m] ess>  kubuntu-desktop
[04:09] <E[m] ess> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:09] <BlueEagle> !paste
[04:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:09] <E[m] ess> sorry for teh flood, but thats really not cool
[04:10] <BlueEagle> e[m] ess: Is that all you get? dpkg returned an error code (1)? Did you google it?
[04:10] <E[m] ess> thats all, and google says its a standard code
[04:10] <knock12> @Jucato: Yes, it uses xine (it's the only available engine)
[04:10] <BlueEagle> e[m] ess: Seems like a segmentation fault :/
[04:11] <Jucato> knock12: hm... that's strange.. :(
[04:11] <seishinbyou> Wow, that's almost descriptive as a Safari error message: "There is an error in the configuration file"
[04:11] <xsacha> actually i'd prefer the error in config file than just "error code 1" :)
[04:15] <seishinbyou> I would too, but only because I can't stand looking at the OSX interface anyways (the pinstripes give me a headache)
[04:16] <T3hWiz0rd> seishinbyou: pinstripes are gone
[04:16] <T3hWiz0rd> seishinbyou: have been since 10.4.2
[04:18] <T3hWiz0rd> seishinbyou: it was replaced with "polished metal", which will replace aqua 100% by 10.5
[04:19] <seishinbyou> In Tiger, the menu backgrounds still have the faint white/light grey striped pattern for me as well as some window backgrounds
[04:19] <seishinbyou> or grey/darker grey
[04:19] <T3hWiz0rd> seishinbyou: *shrugs* everything is either neutral gray or polished metal for me
[04:19] <T3hWiz0rd> seishinbyou: and i've got a mac burning away my sperm count on my lap right now.
[04:20] <seishinbyou> Good heaters, those are
[04:20] <seishinbyou> The LaVie laptop at work gets stupid hot, though
[04:20] <seishinbyou> It frequently shuts itself down
[04:20] <T3hWiz0rd> ouch
[04:20] <seishinbyou> just burns up, and that is with all the fans blasting away
[04:20] <T3hWiz0rd> Asus laptops stay cool. I am gonna get a 600 dollar one and use it to make a mini server out of its parts lol
[04:20] <T3hWiz0rd> a demonstration linux server for work
[04:20] <T3hWiz0rd> gonna put it in a pandabox
[04:21] <T3hWiz0rd> or maybe i'll just be orthadox and leave it as a laptop and use that for the server demo
[04:22] <E[m] ess> BlueEagle: http://rafb.net/paste/results/WIcEcA70.html thats what happened
[04:22] <shadowhywind> anyone that has upgraded to edgy, and looked at fstab, does it look werid?
[04:23] <shadowhywind> can anyone help me set up my swap partition, which looks like it got messed up in the upgrade?
[04:23] <BlueEagle> e[m] ess http://bergen.mislykket.no/image.php?id=1357
[04:23] <Hawkwind> shadowhywind: It's the new UUID stuff in fstab
[04:23] <BlueEagle> e[m] ess: mever mind...
[04:23] <E[m] ess> oh, ok
[04:24] <shadowhywind> when i open up KDE sysstem guard, it says no swap space available
[04:24] <shadowhywind> what i think is my swap is, UUID=073254cd-fc2c-4c5a-82cb-f651cd5f9bba none swap sw 0 0
[04:25] <BlueEagle> e[m] ess: I really do not know what is causing that. Suspects do include bad downloads, broken file system or bad packages.
[04:25] <E[m] ess> ok, i might try and reinstall acpi tehn
[04:28] <shadowhywind> i just opened qtparted, and for my swap-partition, it comes up with unknow, if i reformate it as a linux-swap would that fix it?
[04:29] <shadowhywind> any thoughts?
[04:29] <Jucato> shadowhywind: a swap partition should always be linux-swap
[04:30] <shadowhywind> it was a linux-swap in dapper hehe
[04:30] <shadowhywind> some how edgy got confused with it
[04:30] <shadowhywind> if i reformate it, would edgy automatically see it and fix fstab?
[04:31] <Jucato> shadowhywind: btw, that's a normal fstab line for swap in Edgy
[04:31] <Jucato> I don't see anything wrong with the fstab line....
[04:31] <shadowhywind> i just got used to the old version
[04:31] <Jucato> UUID=dc22d891-ecc4-4c44-80ee-90d0c4e8b61d none            swap    sw              0       0
[04:31] <Jucato> that's mine
[04:32] <Jucato> Edgy uses a new UUID system in place of the old /dev stuff
[04:32] <shadowhywind> could my problem be, qtparted is saying /dev/sda7 *which should be linux-swap* but it is showing it as Type unknow and Used space N/A
[04:32] <Lam_> after installing nvidia-glx and restarting the computer using the "nvidia" driver, the bold-faced fonts are .. too bold?  is that supposed to happen?
[04:33] <Alter-Ego> Jucato: why did they move to a uuid system ?
[04:33] <Alter-Ego> what makes it better ?
[04:33] <Alter-Ego>  or worse ?
[04:33] <jontec> what is uuid?
[04:33] <shadowhywind> so should i reformat my swap to make qtparted happy?
[04:34] <shadowhywind> and see if that is my problem?
[04:34] <Jucato> shadowhywind: probably. no harm in reformatting swap I think
[04:34] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: to give way to something called PATA, I think. I'm not really familiar with it
[04:35] <Jucato> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[04:36] <KooL4444> hey guys, anyone available to help? i messed up my kubuntu
[04:36] <jontec> how can I find what a symbolic link points to? is there like a terminal command?
[04:36] <jontec> be more specific, KooL4444
[04:37] <jontec> !ask
[04:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:37] <KooL4444> kk sorry itll take me a minute to formulate it, just makis sure its not all bots in here
[04:37] <flaccid> E[m] ess: doesn't look like you actually removed acpi
[04:38] <Jucato> jontec: ls -l <file>
[04:39] <E[m] ess> i did, and it came back :S
[04:39] <Jucato> jontec: or you can mouse-over the file in Konqi
[04:39] <Alter-Ego> PATA ?
[04:39] <KooL4444> i tried to install XGL and put it into this .Xsession file and restarted, well after my login screen after reboot it doesnt start up, just goes back to the login screen
[04:40] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: libata for ATA disks
[04:40] <KooL4444> how do i delete that .Xsession file so it doesnt try to use it in boot?
[04:40] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[04:40] <jontec> jucato: gracias
[04:41] <Alter-Ego> i think my isp dns is down
[04:41] <Alter-Ego> i cannot get to any website
[04:41] <flaccid> E[m] ess: remove it again or you may not be able to get paste the issue
[04:41] <KooL4444> ping google.com
[04:41] <flaccid> E[m] ess: use public dns. 4.2.2.1
[04:41] <T3hWiz0rd> 4.2.2.1 ftw
[04:41] <Alter-Ego> ping google.com
[04:41] <Alter-Ego> ping: unknown host google.com
[04:41] <KooL4444> mt
[04:41] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: yes most probably
[04:42] <E[m] ess> wait what? im lsot here
[04:42] <flaccid> T3hWiz0rd yep :)
[04:42] <flaccid> oops i meant to let Alter-Ego know of the dns, not E[m] ess
[04:43] <E[m] ess> oh o
[04:43] <flaccid> sorry
[04:43] <E[m] ess> i tried to remove acpi again but it keeps trying to cnfigure it and screws up
[04:43] <Alter-Ego> flaccid: your lost ?
[04:43] <flaccid> i'm not lost no
[04:43] <Alter-Ego> er, nm
[04:43] <Alter-Ego> what is public dns 4.2.2.1 ?
[04:44] <flaccid> it is a public dns server you can use
[04:44] <flaccid> you can use it when your isp dns goes down
[04:44] <KooL4444> can anyone help me with deleting the .Xsession file from my desktop through the safe mode prompt? i have a copy of what is in the file
[04:45] <shadowhywind> ok so the exteremly funny thing
[04:45] <shadowhywind> booted into windows to use partitionmagic, it had the swap drive as a linux swap drive, in ntfs
[04:46] <flaccid> yeah windows can sometimes allocate drive letter to linux partitions
[04:46] <flaccid> quite annoying
[04:46] <shadowhywind> but i haven't been in windows in about 2 weeks, hehe
[04:46] <E[m] ess> flaccid: http://rafb.net/paste/results/rM0umO94.html
[04:47] <shadowhywind> but, I still don't have a swap on linux yet
[04:48] <malbicho> hi all
[04:48] <shadowhywind> so fstab has a swap UUID, mtab has nothing about a swap
[04:48] <terdinator> What do "pros" use as movie player within firefox? Mplayer-Plugin?
[04:48] <Kiongku> hey guys.. u know where is the file that control the resolution at login?
[04:48] <Jucato> Kiongku: xorg.conf
[04:49] <shadowhywind> so is there supposed to be a record in mtab?
[04:49] <malbicho> anyone speak spanish?
[04:49] <Kiongku> Jucato: i cant seem to see the line
[04:49] <Jucato> !es | malbicho
[04:49] <ubotu> malbicho: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:49] <Jucato> Kiongku: try looking for the "virtual" line
[04:49] <malbicho> thanks
[04:50] <Kiongku> no birtual
[04:50] <Kiongku> *virtual
[04:50] <Jucato> hm... strange...
[04:50] <shadowhywind> so any ideas?
[04:50] <flaccid> E[m] ess: sudo dpkg -P acpi acpi-support
[04:51] <flaccid> oops
[04:51] <KooL4444> i ran a command "chmod +x /.Xsession" how do i turn that chmod off?
[04:51] <flaccid> sorry you put acpi and not acpid
[04:51] <flaccid> E[m] ess: sudo dpkg -P acpid acpi-support
[04:51] <malbicho> i want to install the correct kernel, i have an AMD Athlon, do i have to install k7?
[04:51] <E[m] ess> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove acpi which isn't installed.
[04:51] <flaccid> yeah acpi is not a package but acpid is
[04:51] <Kiongku> Jucato: should i run this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"?
[04:51] <Jucato> malbicho: are you on Dapper or on Edgy?
[04:51] <Jucato> Kiongku: yeah you could
[04:52] <malbicho> Jucato: Edgy
[04:52] <flaccid> accidently closed irc heh
[04:52] <Jucato> malbicho: use the -generic kernel. it's optimized for all processors
[04:52] <malbicho> oh ok
[04:52] <shadowhywind> is there a way to repop fstab?
[04:53] <malbicho> i was looking that in adept manager says Obsoleted by generic in the k7
[04:53] <malbicho> thanks Jucato
[04:53] <Jucato> malbicho: sure thing :)
[04:53] <flaccid> work now E[m] ess?
[04:53] <E[m] ess> dpkg - warning: while removing acpi-support, directory `/var/lib/acpi-support' not empty so not removed
[04:53] <E[m] ess> other than that error yes
[04:54] <flaccid> ok try continuing the upgrade
[04:55] <shadowhywind> any ideas?
[04:55] <E[m] ess> the upgrade is for kubuntu-desktop and it installs acpi...
[04:55] <KooL4444> how do i search for a file from a prompt?
[04:55] <E[m] ess> The following extra packages will be installed:
[04:55] <E[m] ess>   acpi acpi-support acpid powermanagement-interface
[04:56] <terdinator> How do I get any video to play within a web browser?
[04:57] <E[m] ess> mplayer or vlc plugin
[04:57] <flaccid> E[m] ess: thats ok. they should be the correct packages for edgy..
[04:57] <flaccid> E[m] ess: is it proceeding?
[04:58] <E[m] ess> still problems
[04:58] <flaccid> what now
[04:59] <Genix> whenever i run kubuntu now for some reason it goes past the kubuntu loading screen and then it just shows me like a text prompt but the _ doesn't blink and it just stays like that
[04:59] <E[m] ess> flaccid: http://rafb.net/paste/results/n3FKyt11.html
[05:00] <E[m] ess> seems liek it cant configur, iv found some info on this in google so reading it now
[05:00] <jontec> if someone says something is not in your path what do they mean?
[05:00] <shadowhywind> i decided to try to do swapon -a, and i got swapon: cannot stat /dev/disk/by-uuid/073254cd-fc2c-4c5a-82cb-f651cd5f9bba: No such file or directory
[05:01] <flaccid> E[m] ess: looks like it is having a problem starting acpi - don't know why. i would install the packages from the meta package kubuntu-desktop manually, then go back to acpi.
[05:01] <flaccid> if you have heldback packages i would install those first as well
[05:01] <E[m] ess> iv found a posible fix, doing it now
[05:01] <flaccid> just in case its related
[05:02] <flaccid> yeah this is pretty typical of an edgy upgrade E[m] ess. so much issues like this that lots of people are having to go trhough
[05:02] <flaccid> i gtg out for a bit
[05:02] <flaccid> bb
[05:02] <flaccid> bbl
[05:03] <E[m] ess> ok, later yo~
[05:03] <Genix> anyone have any ideas for me?
[05:03] <E[m] ess> it looks to me that it cant configure acpid tho
[05:06] <Kiongku> duh 5 mins witha 60hz rez makes my eyes hurt..
[05:06] <RawSewageLT> !wmv
[05:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:06] <E[m] ess> !acpid edgy
[05:06] <ubotu> acpid: Utilities for using ACPI power management. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.4-5ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 27 kB, installed size 176 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[05:08] <E[m] ess> is there a way to undo changes and revert back to dapper while keping xorg 7.1.1?
[05:09] <sheft> how do i fix the sync in youtube videos and google videos??? i downloaded: FP9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz which has libflashplayer.so in it, but i dont understand where to put it?
[05:10] <unix_infidel> isnt there a 3rd party deb around yet?
[05:10] <Kiongku> !flash9 > shef
[05:11] <Kiongku> !flash9 > sheft
[05:18] <Genix> whenever i run kubuntu now for some reason it goes past the kubuntu loading screen and then it just shows me like a text prompt but the _ doesn't blink and it just stays like that
[05:18] <KooL4444> how do i install XGL and compiz? im running Edgy and an ATi video card
[05:19] <E[m] ess> KooL4444: you sure you want xgl and compiz? if you have edgy you can use aiglx and beryl
[05:19] <E[m] ess> xgl replaces xorg, while aiglx is aprt of it
[05:19] <E[m] ess> so tis faster
[05:19] <E[m] ess> and beryl is the community fork of compiz, its nicer'
[05:20] <KooL4444> i just want MacOSX type window handling and the cube efect with the desktops
[05:20] <KooL4444> does beryl have the cube effect and window handling?
[05:20] <E[m] ess> yes
[05:20] <xsacha> beryl is forl of compiz (improved)
[05:21] <xsacha> fork*
[05:21] <xsacha> well improved eye candy :)
[05:21] <jontec> I need to... uhh... add graphviz to my path. It's installed with the graphviz package, how do I do it?
[05:21] <jontec> !graphviz
[05:21] <KooL4444> so i dont need xgl for baryl?
[05:21] <ubotu> graphviz: rich set of graph drawing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1353 kB, installed size 3764 kB
[05:21] <KooL4444> all i need is baryl?
[05:22] <E[m] ess> for beryl all you need is xorg 7.1 which you have with edgy, you trurn on aiglx and voila
[05:22] <E[m] ess> KooL4444: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[05:22] <KooL4444> do i install baryl first or turn on aiglx first?
[05:22] <KooL4444> thnc
[05:22] <E[m] ess> read that
[05:22] <KooL4444> ty
[05:23] <E[m] ess> anyone want to tell me how to configure acpid so kubuntu-desktop is fixed and i can finish my ugrade?
[05:23] <seishinbyou> There, VMWare is back up and running.  Now for the "fun" part of installing Visual Studio in the vmware'd XP
[05:24] <hanan> hallo
[05:25] <hanan> I'm getting a  module ABI major version mismatch on my x.org server. What should I do? (just upgraded dapper->edgy)
[05:25] <hanan> (to do with nv drver)
[05:26] <hanan> nevermind, switched to closed, official driver
[05:28] <huminsk> my firefox 2.0 crash when i open a webpage with flash. Anyone knows why?
[05:28] <KooL4444> wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[05:29] <KooL4444> do i type all that on one line?
[05:30] <E[m] ess> KooL4444: each line on the sie is a lin of text, so if its in one line then yes
[05:30] <rythan> Is there a reason that installing nvidia-settings removes nvidia-glx?
[05:31] <KooL4444> k
[05:31] <sheft> is there a guide to enable aiglx on kubuntu edgy?
[05:31] <sheft> !aiglx
[05:31] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[05:32] <E[m] ess> sheft: yes, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[05:32] <E[m] ess> you jsut opent eh xorg.conf and turn on aiglx at the bottom
[05:34] <sheft> E[m] ess: where's the xorg.conf file?
[05:34] <rythan> Hmm
[05:34] <rythan> Nobody knows?
[05:34] <E[m] ess> sheft: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:36] <shadowhywind> i got my swap partition working, and i can hibernate now, But i can not come back from hibernate. Because the swap partition does not load while it is booting up any ideas?
[05:36] <_goofy_> when mounting a hdd where do i specify the filesystem type
[05:36] <DekKeD> is it me or there haven't been any updates in Edgy's repos since 3 days before it was released?
[05:37] <Jucato> DekKeD: no updates
[05:37] <DekKeD> Jucato: ok, i thought my repos were broken or something :P
[05:37] <Jucato> :)
[05:37] <_goofy_> !mount
[05:37] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:42] <Kiongku> damn adept not starting
[05:42] <something> Kiongku: what is wrong
[05:42] <Kiongku> adept refuses to start up.. but apt-get in command works
[05:42] <E[m] ess> im trying to upgrade form dapper to edgy and acpid is killing all my dependencies so i cant continue with the update, acpid wont configure, http://rafb.net/paste/results/n3FKyt11.html is the error
[05:43] <E[m] ess> iv been working on this for 4 hours now :(
[05:43] <rythan> I'll ask again :)
[05:43] <rythan> Is there a reason that installing nvidia-settings removes nvidia-glx?
[05:44] <rythan> Or am I missing something?
[05:44] <Jucato> rythan: yes. because nvidia-settings is an older (I think obsolete) incompatible version. nvidia-glx has it's own
[05:44] <rythan> Ah ... thanks
[05:45] <Jucato> rythan: if you install nvidia-glx, you can still run nvidia-settings, afaik
[05:45] <Jucato> yep you can. just checked
[05:45] <rythan> No, it removes it
[05:45] <rythan> And vice versa
[05:45] <rythan> Hrm ...
[05:46] <Jucato> rythan: I already said that nvidia-glx has it's own.
[05:46] <rythan> Right
[05:46] <Jucato> has its own nvidia-settings program, which doesn't come in a separate package
[05:46] <E[m] ess> Jucato: any idea on my problem?
[05:46] <Jucato> it's built into nvidia-settings
[05:46] <Jucato> E[m] ess: sorry, no idea :(
[05:46] <kool4444_> i tried to install beryl, and this is the messege i get when i try to run it
[05:46] <rythan> Ah thanks ... I expoected a menu entry
[05:46] <rythan> er expected
[05:46] <kool4444_> kool4444@FIRE:~$ beryl
[05:46] <kool4444_> XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
[05:46] <kool4444_> Nvidia Absent, assuming AIGLX
[05:46] <kool4444_> beryl: No composite extension
[05:47] <kool4444_> why wont it work?
[05:47] <joe_> Well, I've been on linux 3 days, still going thru windows withdrawals sometimes my hands shake?
[05:47] <soundmaster80> is there a program that will look up my albums on amazon and tag them automatically
[05:47] <soundmaster80> that will pass joe
[05:48] <E[m] ess> kool4444_: you havent turned on composite manager
[05:48] <E[m] ess> or if you have you didnt restart x
[05:48] <kool4444_> how do i turn it on?
[05:48] <terdinator> Is the KDE weather applet very experamental right now? Because no matter what station I put into the "selected stations", I always get "Uknown Station" for the location.
[05:48] <soundmaster80> use superkaramba and liquidweather
[05:48] <joe_> Are sure, I started thinking about going back to windows when I couldn't get an mp3 to play
[05:48] <soundmaster80> much better
[05:49] <soundmaster80> just hang with it joe
[05:49] <E[m] ess> kool4444_: its int eh x options,t hat pge i linked explains it
[05:49] <rythan> Yeah joe ... it takes a little convincing but it all comes together
[05:49] <kool4444_> k ill check it again
[05:49] <Jucato> !mp3 > joe_
[05:50] <soundmaster80> however, i will say that i would go back to windows when i gave up on linux
[05:50] <soundmaster80> and over time i've stayed longer and longer
[05:50] <E[m] ess> joe_: if you go to the ubuntu wiki,t he page called RestrictedFormats epxlains how to get mp3 working
[05:50] <soundmaster80> till now i'm happy :)
[05:50] <kool4444_> nothing on that page about composite
[05:50] <soundmaster80> kool444 what are you doing again?
[05:50] <joe_> I don't know if I can hold out.  I still can't print and havent a clue how to network to my laptop
[05:50] <soundmaster80> have you looked at www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:50] <terdinator> Joe and Soundmaster, Go ahead and give the program "Amarok" a try for your MP3 needs.
[05:51] <E[m] ess> kool4444_: pastebin your x config
[05:51] <E[m] ess> and il have a look
[05:51] <terdinator> It will grab MP3 codecs for your automatically and it will also tag your MP3's from Amazon.com
[05:51] <soundmaster80> amarok i like however it's not what i'm wanting for MP3 taggine
[05:51] <soundmaster80> tagging
[05:51] <terdinator> I see
[05:51] <Jucato> joe_: sent you the link for MP3 instructions.
[05:51] <kool4444_> what does pastebin mean? this is my first day on linux
[05:52] <soundmaster80> i used mediamonkey in windows and loved it
[05:52] <soundmaster80> but i haven't found a substitute in windows
[05:52] <Jucato> !pastebin | kool4444_
[05:52] <ubotu> kool4444_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:52] <joe_> amorock had errors when it tried to update mp3 codecs
[05:52] <terdinator> Has anybody played with the weather applet for KDE? It seems non functional.
[05:52] <soundmaster80> kool4444....check www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:52] <E[m] ess> first day on ubuntu and you're using beryl/aiglx? :O
[05:52] <soundmaster80> no, again i use the liquidweather widget
[05:52] <kool4444_> !pastebin | kool4444_
[05:52] <ubotu> kool4444_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:53] <joe_> I had one victory.  vanessae helped me install flah 9 plugin so I can get my fix of movies at metacafe
[05:53] <terdinator> is there a package for liquidweather?
[05:53] <Jucato> joe_: ok, you need to enable the multiverse compenonet of your repositories. once you've done that, all you need to do is install the package "libxine-extracodecs"
[05:53] <kool4444_> ahh ok, what should i paste inthere?
[05:53] <soundmaster80> yeah, you need to install superkaramba first
[05:53] <Jucato> terdinator: liquid weather is a Superkaramba theme. install superkaramba then download the theme
[05:53] <soundmaster80> yup
[05:54] <soundmaster80> apt-get install superkaramba
[05:54] <terdinator> Ok, is Superkaramba a theme manager?
[05:54] <rythan> I just finished doing just that - SuperKaramba :)
[05:54] <rythan> It is more of a "Widget" manager
[05:54] <Jucato> kool4444_: if you need to paste long lines of text, like error messages and stuff, you can use that service instead of pasting directly into the channel
[05:54] <soundmaster80> ok, then go to www.liquidweather.net
[05:54] <Jucato> terdinator: Superkaramba is a desktop applet program. the little applets that you run using superkaramba are called Superkaramba themes
[05:55] <Jucato> not the same with the general usage of the word "theme"
[05:55] <sistemas> Good morning to all
[05:55] <kool4444_> ok i pasted the error in there when i run the beryl command
[05:55] <sistemas> people
[05:55] <gameman73> sweet,  ill ask here since #ubuntu was a load of help,    need help with fglrx and X after an upgrade to edgy
[05:55] <sistemas> I want to install my Lexmark X1185
[05:55] <E[m] ess> kool4444_: your x config
[05:55] <Jucato> kool4444_: then you give the URL that comes out
[05:55] <sistemas> How do I do that?
[05:55] <kool4444_> so i just type "xconfig" and paste that?
[05:56] <E[m] ess> no, pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:56] <soundmaster80> kool4444....http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Eye_Candy
[05:56] <soundmaster80> have you been there...that usually works
[05:56] <noxxle> i accidently removed the volume and power applet icons from the taskbar and now i cannot figure out how to get them back. I can find the kmix, but the icon is different and when i click on it, it does not show the volume icon.
[05:57] <K`zan> Have I got something wrong or is kuickshow not available under ubuntu?
[05:57] <soundmaster80> i use that to install it and had no problems, lol doesn't mean you won't but they usually work :)
[05:57] <joe_> how can I tell if my usb ports are recognized by the os do I need drivers?
[05:57] <something> i am not wrong !
[05:57] <something> and you don't have me
[05:57] <gameman73> joe_: not typically,,,  90% of usb drivers are included with the kernel
[05:58] <gameman73> usb is something thats always "just worked" for me
[05:58] <kool4444_> ok http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29289/
[05:58] <something> i never worked for you
[05:58] <kool4444_> there it is
[05:58] <Cuboid> Can someone here tell me what I've done wrong with upgrading to 6,10? At first I changed the sources.list file, the word dapper replaced with edgy, I tried apt-get upgrade and it just said that there were no files needed at all. Tried with dapper and it installed 183 files. Now , I don't think that this is 6.10. Is there a way for me to find out and if it isn't, what did I do wrong?
[05:58] <Jucato> K`zan: kuickshow has been dropped from Ubuntu since Dapper, due to incompatibility
[05:59] <soundmaster80> comment out dri
[05:59] <gameman73> o_O   we have someone here named something.....   *shrug*
[05:59] <s> hello
[05:59] <Jucato> !upgrade | Cuboid
[05:59] <ubotu> Cuboid: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:59] <joe_> thanks jucato.  mp3 is working.  that was easy.   my hands arent shaking as much now
[05:59] <xsacha> something or some0ne?
[05:59] <K`zan> Jucato: arghhhhhhhhh, I use that a lot, guess I'll have to get the source and go through all that :-(.  Thanks.
[05:59] <kool4444_> oh wait there is more to paste
[05:59] <s> please i need some help with flash and Flock / Firefox
[05:59] <something> lol, i kept getting this pong from the speakers and i was like 'huh'
[05:59] <noxxle> i accidently removed the volume and power applet icons from the taskbar and now i cannot figure out how to get them back. I can find the kmix, but the icon is different and when i click on it, it does not show the volume icon.
[05:59] <Jucato> K`zan: I'll try asking the devs. you're not the first person (and probably not the last) looking for it
[05:59] <kool4444_> how do i select everything in the file?
[05:59] <Lam_> i installed nvidia-glx on my computer, enabled it, and restarted my kde.  now the bold fonts are too bold.  is that caused by something else?
[06:00] <Jucato> kool4444_: Ctrl+A
[06:00] <K`zan> Jucato: VERY much appreciated!
[06:00] <K`zan> Jucato: Very handy little utility.
[06:00] <gameman73> can anyone give me some help?  fglrx kinda took a crap on me after edgy upgrade
[06:00] <joe_> as with getting off any addiction you have to have a support group.  I would be helpless w/o this IRC.  Thanks everyone.
[06:00] <kool4444_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29290/
[06:00] <xsacha> yeah ctrl+a or highlight it, or click at start and shift+click end, or there should be select all in menu if it is a GUI app
[06:01] <kool4444_> ok thats the whole file
[06:01] <E[m] ess> kool4444: that cant be your whole xconfig, its too small
[06:01] <kool4444_> updated just now
[06:01] <Cuboid> It is still doing it.
[06:01] <E[m] ess> oh ok
[06:01] <Cuboid> root@laptop:~# apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[06:01] <Cuboid> Reading package lists... Done
[06:01] <Cuboid> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:01] <Cuboid> Calculating upgrade... Done
[06:01] <Cuboid> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:01] <terdinator> For SuperKaramba, what format do I download widget packages in, tar packages?
[06:01] <rythan> skz
[06:01] <rythan> if available
[06:01] <terdinator> ok
[06:02] <Jucato> terdinator: .tar.gz, but you have to extract them
[06:02] <soundmaster80> kool4444 are you able to see what i'm writing?
[06:02] <kool4444_> yes
[06:02] <kool4444_> i saw that
[06:02] <rythan> What will break if I try to follow the dorections at: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Eye_Candy
[06:02] <E[m] ess> ok kool4444, you need to make teh changes for aiglx, so where it ahs sectione xtension, for composite you have '0', you need that to be enabled isntead of 0
[06:02] <rythan> ?
[06:02] <soundmaster80> i just wanted to make sure you had seen that site i sent you...you never answered
[06:03] <kool4444_> did i miss somthin soundmaster?
[06:03] <rythan> On Kubuntu edgy that is
[06:03] <soundmaster80> rythan, what are you worried about
[06:03] <terdinator> is ImageMagick a direct dependency of LiquidWeather?
[06:03] <soundmaster80> if it doesn't work the X probably wont startt
[06:03] <kool4444_> so just type "Enable" in there?
[06:03] <soundmaster80> yes
[06:03] <rythan> That XGL/Compiz will work or not?
[06:03] <soundmaster80> terdinator...yes it is
[06:03] <s> Please I need some help!
[06:03] <E[m] ess> yes,you need to maek some mroe changes as well
[06:04] <soundmaster80> kool4444.... http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Eye_Candy
[06:04] <terdinator> Do I grab ImageMagick from a repository with apt-get?
[06:04] <E[m] ess> in teh modules section, add in Load "dbe"
[06:04] <E[m] ess> and also # Load "GLcore"
[06:04] <rythan> Yeup -- apt-get install imagemagick
[06:04] <soundmaster80> it has instructions for ATI cards....i just wanted to make sure you had used that
[06:04] <E[m] ess> you need to maek sure teh # is there so it doesnt use GLcore
[06:04] <noxxle> i accidently removed the volume and power applet icons from the taskbar and now i cannot figure out how to get them back. I can find the kmix, but the icon is different and when i click on it, it does not show the volume icon.
[06:04] <Lam_> does anyone else have an outrageously bold font for their panel clock?
[06:05] <soundmaster80> lam_ , you can change that :)
[06:05] <s> Please help me! When i open a page that conains Flash content Firefox crashes and quits!
[06:05] <Jucato> Lam_: does it only affect you clock?
[06:05] <E[m] ess> kool4444 then in server layout, add in Option           "AIGLX" "true"
[06:05] <Lam_> Jucato: lol no, but the bold is annoying since it happened out of nowhere
[06:05] <E[m] ess> so that aiglx turns on
[06:05] <soundmaster80> hang on s i have a post that helped me
[06:05] <s> oh great!
[06:05] <E[m] ess> if your in pico us ctrl-o to save and then ctrl-x to exit
[06:05] <Lam_> soundmaster80: how would i go about changing it if i don't know what caused it?  my Appearance settings seem fine
[06:05] <terdinator> It says it cant find package ImageMagick <----- is this is the normal repositories or do I have to grab it manually?
[06:05] <Jucato> Lam_: you could probably check for Fonts in System Settings?
[06:05] <Lam_> Jucato: that's where i am right now.
[06:06] <Lam_> Jucato: everything is default.
[06:06] <soundmaster80> lam_ if you will right click on the clock you can configure it
[06:06] <Jucato> hm...
[06:06] <gameman73> can anyone give me some help?  fglrx kinda took a crap on me after edgy upgrade  :(
[06:06] <soundmaster80> should be able to change the fonts,colors and things just for the clock
[06:06] <Lam_> soundmaster80: it's not a clock thing.  i was using the clock as a reference point.  everything bold in Sans Serif 9 is REALLY bold
[06:07] <Cuboid> Thanks. I think it's actually doing it now.
[06:07] <soundmaster80> ah
[06:07] <terdinator> BlueLoonie are you from Michigan Tech University????
[06:07] <soundmaster80> system settings > fonts.....check them there
[06:07] <inteliwasp> i'm trying to get wireless to work but the interface disapeared from iwconfig
[06:07] <xsacha> yes he is
[06:08] <soundmaster80> i dl'd lucida grande and changed all mine
[06:08] <sebastian22> soundmaster80: where's the post?
[06:08] <soundmaster80> i'm looking, i'm sorry....give me a secx
[06:08] <soundmaster80> flash problem wasn't it ?
[06:08] <sebastian22> oh ok thx man
[06:08] <kool4444_> ok emess, i made the changes, now just save and reboot?
[06:08] <sebastian22> yeah
[06:08] <Emess> save and restart x
[06:08] <sebastian22> it quits when i enter a page with flash content
[06:08] <Emess> restart x with ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:08] <xsacha> sebastian22: amd64?
[06:09] <sebastian22> no
[06:09] <sebastian22> amd athlon xp
[06:09] <Pensa`MIA> is there a 386 kernel for edgy, because the generic kernel is not working properly with the nvidia drivers
[06:09] <kool4444_> under the module section should it be # Load "GLcore" or without the pound sign?
[06:09] <xsacha> nonfree flash?
[06:09] <terdinator> Where do I get ImageMagick?
[06:09] <soundmaster80> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286069&highlight=flash+9+firefox
[06:09] <Emess> include teh hash, its nto a poundsign
[06:09] <soundmaster80> there you go....first one did it for me :)
[06:09] <xsacha> lol@pound sign
[06:09] <kool4444_> heh sorry
[06:09] <Jucato> hm... I'm having a weird problem with flash... works with Konqueror, but not with Firefox/Swiftfox...
[06:09] <kool4444_> kk
[06:09] <sebastian22> great thanks soundmaster80 i will try it
[06:10] <soundmaster80> i hope it works for you :)
[06:10] <Jucato> oh nvm.. just doesn't work on Swiftfox...
[06:10] <dinosaur-rus> hi all
[06:10] <Emess> looks like my problem an only be fixed by ubuntu dev, nobody knows :(
[06:11] <soundmaster80> sebastion, please let me know if it works
[06:11] <KooL4444> oh oh, tried to run beryl after it restarted and it crashed, its now frozen
[06:12] <Emess> did composite start?
[06:12] <dude> abattoir !
[06:13] <xsacha> KooL4444: kwin --replace
[06:13] <dude> jucato !
[06:13] <Jucato> dude: hi!
[06:13] <xsacha> it's not completely frozen right?
[06:13] <KooL4444> i think compostie started
[06:13] <KooL4444> it was frozen, i had to do ctrl alt bckspc
[06:13] <wombat_> Could someone please tell me what to do with an *.rpm file?
[06:13] <KooL4444> whats kwin --replace?
[06:13] <xsacha> ctrl alt backspace worked then wasnt frozen
[06:14] <soundmaster80> wombat.....burn it in the firey pits of hell
[06:14] <xsacha> replaces window manager back to kwin, so you get your borders back
[06:14] <soundmaster80> along with all the other rpm's of the world :)
[06:14] <dude> jucato: is there a widget like app for kubuntu?
[06:14] <dinosaur-rus> does anybody know if it's possible to switch language with just Ctrl+Shift?
[06:14] <soundmaster80> dude.....apt-get install superkaramba
[06:14] <Jucato> dude: Superkaramba
[06:14] <Kiongku> Jucato: darn kdesu does not work anymore
[06:14] <Jucato> Kiongku: what does it say?
[06:14] <dude> tnx guys
[06:15] <wombat_> soundmaster80: it's a game I want to install
[06:15] <Kiongku> it just does not work. I do kdesu adept_manager.. puts password but then it just goes out without a word
[06:15] <terdinator> Where did you get ImageMagick so you could use LiquidWeather Widget?
[06:15] <KooL4444> after i run "beryl-manager" all my windows freeze, but i can right click on the emerald
[06:15] <Kiongku> the program is never started
[06:15] <Jucato> Kiongku: try running it from Konsole
[06:15] <xsacha> thats not kdesu not working then
[06:15] <soundmaster80> a game?
[06:15] <Kiongku> Jucato: thats from konsole
[06:15] <soundmaster80> oh oh
[06:16] <soundmaster80> what's the game?
[06:16] <xsacha> Kiongku: what does it say after what you typed? it just goes back to $?
[06:16] <wombat_> soundmaster: I downloaded a linux version of a game and this is the file i got. Is it doe a different distro?
[06:16] <sebastian22> soundmaster80: How do i change the color depth in kubuntu?
[06:16] <wombat_> Scorched Earth 3D
[06:17] <soundmaster80> ok, just a sec....wombat. rpm's are red hat, etc...your looking for .deb packages
[06:17] <Jucato> Kiongku: hm... have you tried launching any other app with kdesu? or tried clicking on the Administrator Mode button?
[06:17] <xsacha> sebastian22: /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> section screen -> DefaultDepth
[06:17] <soundmaster80> thank you xsacha :)
[06:17] <Kiongku> xsacha: yah
[06:17] <KooL4444> me Jucato?
[06:17] <terdinator> Do you manually have to compile ImageMagick or is there a package for it?
[06:17] <sebastian22> thanks
[06:17] <Jucato> KooL4444: no not you. Kiongku
[06:17] <wombat_> Soundmaster: Thanx, I wasn't sure
[06:17] <KooL4444> oh ok
[06:17] <Kiongku> Jucato: i've done kdesu adept_manager.. kdesu synaptic.. kdesu kate non work
[06:18] <soundmaster80> you can change a RPM to DEB with alien but i don't know how reliable it is
[06:18] <Kiongku> sudo works though
[06:18] <Jucato> Kiongku: hmm... have you tried rebooting (eek!)
[06:18] <Kiongku> sudo synaptic starts the program as it should be
[06:18] <terdinator> Soundmaster did you manually compile ImageMagick?
[06:18] <Kiongku> Jucato: rebooted thrice
[06:18] <xsacha> :O
[06:18] <soundmaster80> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_.rpm_to_.deb_Converter_.28Alien.29
[06:18] <soundmaster80> no
[06:18] <dinosaur-rus> Kiongsu: try to reboot, that worked for me
[06:18] <Jucato> Kiongku: that is indeed bad...
[06:18] <Kiongku> did not work here..
[06:18] <soundmaster80> should be apt-get install imagemagick
[06:18] <terdinator> hmmm.... I have all repositories enabled, but ImageMagick is not in there
[06:18] <inteliwasp> i'm trying to get wireless to work but the interface disapeared from iwconfig. how can i fix this?
[06:18] <Jucato> Kiongku: and after those reboots, kdesu still doesn't work?
[06:19] <xsacha> Kiongku: how do you get into KDE?
[06:19] <sudharsh> terdinator: hmm...i guess its imagemagick
[06:19] <wombat_> Soundmaster: it's ok, I'll just download the *.deb file :D
[06:19] <xsacha> automatically? startkde?..
[06:19] <soundmaster80> hang on i'll check
[06:19] <Jucato> terdinator: imagemagick is in main
[06:19] <soundmaster80> yeah, i just installed it
[06:19] <gameman73>  does ANYONE know what the crap "FATAL:  Error running install command for flgrx" might mean?   fglrx refuses to work"
[06:20] <Kiongku> xsacha: by login manager lol
[06:20] <KooL4444> so when i run the beryl command, it seems like xwindows freezes, then i do ctrl-alt-bckspc and its back to original
[06:20] <soundmaster80> do apt-cache search imagemagick
[06:20] <soundmaster80> that should point you to the right package
[06:21] <Kiongku> wait i brb
[06:21] <terdinator> There we go, Thanks Soundmaster!  =)
[06:21] <soundmaster80> hey wombat
[06:21] <soundmaster80> you can do apt-get install scorched3d
[06:22] <soundmaster80> shoud be able to anyways
[06:22] <K`zan> Am I doing something wrong here?  df isn't listing nfs mounts even with -a ?!?
[06:22] <Kiongku> hmm
[06:23] <KooL4444> whats the difference between the cd download and the DVD download of kubuntu?
[06:23] <Kiongku> evern restarting x server does not solve anything..
[06:23] <wombat_> soundmaster: at the terminal?
[06:23] <soundmaster80> yup
[06:23] <Jucato> KooL4444: lots of stuff. DVD contains everythin in the main and restricted repositories, and probably some universe stuff too
[06:23] <soundmaster80> if it doesn't then i would go to the www.ubuntuguide.org and change my sources.list to theirs
[06:23] <Emess> oh gawd a wombat :P
[06:24] <soundmaster80> cool, i wondered that myself
[06:24] <Lam_> ping
[06:24] <KooL4444> does all that stuff get installed automatically? or is it for ppl who dont have broadband?
[06:24] <soundmaster80> pong
[06:24] <Lam_> thanks :)
[06:24] <soundmaster80> ha
[06:25] <Jucato> KooL4444: people who don't have broadband. and they don't get installed automatically
[06:25] <KooL4444> kk ty
[06:25] <Kiongku> !kdesu
[06:25] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:26] <Kiongku> hmm
[06:26] <Kiongku> deleting .kde
[06:26] <Jucato> O_O
[06:26] <Jucato> Kiongku: I suggest just renaming it
[06:26] <Kiongku> :p
[06:26] <Kiongku> XD
[06:28] <terdinator> Man this superkaramba rocks!
[06:28] <soundmaster80> yeah, i quite like it
[06:28] <KooL4444> im just gonna reinstall all of kubuntu and start fresh with this deryl crap
[06:28] <soundmaster80> i just wish it was compatible with konfabulator stuff
[06:29] <Kiongku> duh did not sovle it
[06:30] <Kiongku> hmm
[06:30] <xsacha> kdesu -v    what version? :P
[06:31] <KooL4444> soundmaster80 can you paste that link that you pasted earlier i didnt get a chace to look at it, is it for installing deryl?
[06:31] <soundmaster80> sure kool
[06:31] <dude> jucato: how do i use superkaramba
[06:31] <soundmaster80> i'll just give you the full site
[06:31] <soundmaster80> www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:31] <soundmaster80> it will help you with many things
[06:31] <KooL4444> thnx, bookmarked
[06:31] <dude> !superkaramba
[06:31] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[06:31] <Jucato> dude: download a superkaramba theme fro kde-look
[06:32] <xsacha> Qt: 3.3.6 KDE: 3.5.5 KDE su: 1.0?
[06:32] <momal> help... when i got home today my kde was loged out. when i put in user/pass for any user it just goes black screen then loads the login screen again
[06:32] <momal> no errors are shown and log file doesn't show anything inormal :S
[06:32] <momal> abnormal*
[06:33] <soundmaster80> BTW, just to throw this out there....if you find yourself using the console for various things i would install "yakuake"
[06:33] <soundmaster80> i don't know what i did before i found that
[06:33] <xsacha> momal: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE  none?
[06:33] <Kiongku> yah sorry disc
[06:33] <momal> i'll have  acheck im in irssi at the moment
[06:33] <momal> brb
[06:33] <Kiongku> Qt: 3.3.6
[06:33] <Kiongku> KDE: 3.5.5
[06:33] <Kiongku> KDE su: 1.0
[06:33] <Kiongku> is it like urs?
[06:33] <xsacha> yes, same
[06:33] <xsacha> why did momal quit irssi?
[06:34] <KooL4444> is thiswhat im lookin at for deryl? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268149&highlight=howto+ati+xgl
[06:34] <soundmaster80> yup, it is :)
[06:34] <xsacha> deryl you keep saying, you mean beryl?
[06:34] <KooL4444> yeh, sorry lol
[06:35] <KooL4444> im all confused
[06:35] <momal> it just shows a line saying (ww) warning (ee) error and few other codes
[06:35] <KooL4444> before today ive never heard of any of this
[06:35] <xsacha> momal: you dont need to quit irssi
[06:35] <momal> oh
[06:35] <inteliwasp> how do i adjust the time in CLI?
[06:35] <momal> how can i get to cmd then ?
[06:35] <momal> from irssi
[06:35] <xsacha> press alt+f2 to go to tty and alt+f1 to come back to tty1 -- you have 6 tty
[06:35] <xsacha> tty2*
[06:35] <momal> ahhh smart cookie :o
[06:35] <xsacha> with F1->F6
[06:36] <momal> any other ideas on how to fix kde :(
[06:36] <terminus_> hi, my dhclient don't give a IP, any idea?, it say:
[06:36] <terminus_> HCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
[06:36] <terminus_> DHCPACK from 10.0.0.138
[06:36] <terminus_> bound to 10.0.0.1 -- renewal in 2836 seconds
[06:36] <xsacha> F7 will take you back to the kde login
[06:36] <momal> or get some info to fix it
[06:36] <xsacha> there was no errors in that log momal?
[06:36] <Kiongku> where is kdesu pacakge supposed to be?
[06:36] <Kiongku> !entrance
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about entrance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <inteliwasp> how do i reset the time in CLI?
[06:37] <momal> nope just those codes i said eariler :S
[06:37] <momal> and kdm.log did't show anything abnormal
[06:37] <xsacha> ok well obviously X crashed, that's why it takes you back to login screen
[06:38] <xsacha> look at bottom of Xorg.0.log
[06:38] <inteliwasp> er... kdesu fails for me...
[06:38] <xsacha> do you have anything like beryl to run on startup?
[06:39] <momal> ok in bottom of xorg.0.log file there is a bit say error opening security policy and then under that about fonts and says removing from list... umm i have beryl but i manaully start it up after kde has finsihed loging in
[06:40] <xsacha> fonts you can ignore, beryl doesnt matter then.. what's this security policy?
[06:41] <momal> error opening security policy file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy | then there is a few xkb_ lines with some includes inside { and }
[06:41] <inteliwasp> how do i fix kdesu, it wont let me use anything
[06:41] <momal> im using edgy as well if that can help you :p
[06:41] <Jucato> Kiongku:  looks like you're not the only one ^^^^
[06:42] <xsacha> no fatal server error in there momal?
[06:42] <momal> nope
[06:42] <xsacha> hmm what's crashing it, i dunno
[06:44] <inteliwasp> does anyone know how to set the time in a console?
[06:44] <momal> after i click the login button screen goes straight black then a lighter black then cursor comes up and then kde login screen... but usually before if the X server crashed the nvidia logo would come back up but it doens't seem to
[06:44] <Jucato> inteliwasp: timestamp too far intot he future?
[06:45] <inteliwasp> Jucato:  yep and kdesu won't let me in to reset the time
[06:45] <Jucato> inteliwasp: I rebooted to solve that... I don't know if it works 100% of the time
[06:46] <xsacha> momal: check xorg.conf, what driver is it using?
[06:46] <xsacha> maybe something in xorg.conf changed
[06:46] <inteliwasp> Jucato:  therin lies the problem... i reboot countless time tring to fix a failed attemt at upgrading and the time is FUBARed
[06:46] <Jucato> @_@
[06:46] <Kiongku> haha same here
[06:46] <Kiongku> sudo works though
[06:47] <xsacha> inteliwasp: is time wrong in BIOS?
[06:47] <inteliwasp> i wonder if i shuld set it back the corect amount in bios
[06:47] <jay> Hello!  Is there a way of telling Kubuntu to never upgrade a certain package? (in my case, I do not want WINE upgraded since the upgrade breaks the application I want to use)
[06:47] <xsacha> upgrades have to be done manually?
[06:48] <Jucato> no. locking a specific package to a specific version I guess
[06:48] <Jucato> it can be done with synaptic, but not with adept
[06:48] <momal> HMMMMM... what does /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession meant to have in it ?
[06:48] <momal> becuase mine is blank
[06:48] <xsacha> ah
[06:49] <inteliwasp> ok now i am perplexed... the bios time is local but the timestamp says 3 hours ahead......
[06:49] <Kiongku> inteliwasp: yah it is
[06:49] <jay> Jucato... IC.  That's disappointing.  Kind of makes adept notifier useless to me then. :(
[06:49] <momal> how do i get the normal contents of /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession back ?
[06:49] <xsacha> momal: it's a long script, want me to paste it?
[06:49] <inteliwasp> and kdesu is FUBAR on me
[06:49] <momal> umm can you upload to a website as a plain text file so i can wget it :)
[06:50] <xsacha> ok
[06:51] <noiesmo> hey all looking for an application to rescue data from floppy
[06:51] <inteliwasp> ok it's oficcial, this weekend is now a living hell for me
[06:51] <xsacha> momal: bur.st/~s/Xsession
[06:51] <inteliwasp> Xorg broke AGAIN!
[06:51] <Kiongku> where the heck is kdesu found.. in whcih package.. i gonna nuke it
[06:51] <K`zan> Night folks
[06:51] <intelikey> noiesmo what kind of data and what is the reason you need a tool ?
[06:52] <Jucato> Kiongku: kdelibs4c2a I think
[06:52] <xsacha> got it momal? :)
[06:52] <noiesmo> intelikey, the data's images for a teacher at the school I work for
[06:52] <intelikey> Kiongku just put your user in the adm group
[06:52] <justin_> hello?
[06:52] <Kiongku> intelikey: crazy i'm not running as root all the time
[06:53] <intelikey> noiesmo try fsck /dev/fd0 first if that wont do check back.
[06:53] <intelikey> Kiongku ?
[06:53] <intelikey> !sudo | Kiongku
[06:53] <ubotu> Kiongku: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:54] <Kiongku> i know
[06:54] <noiesmo> intelikey, yeah ok will try tomorrow
[06:54] <Kiongku> i currently using sudo
[06:54] <Kiongku> but kde wants kdesu and that freaking annoys me since its not working
[06:54] <justin_> is there a linux program thats comparable to windows media player (such as being able to rip, burn, and play?)
[06:54] <intelikey> Kiongku if sudo is working what is the issue with dkesu ?
[06:54] <xsacha> Kiongku: administator mode doesnt work either? i guess cause it uses kdesu?
[06:55] <Jucato> justin_: rip & burn = k3b, play = amarok (music) or kaffeine (music and video)
[06:55] <momal> yay
[06:55] <inteliwasp> !kdesu
[06:55] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:55] <momal> ^^
[06:55] <momal> thanks for that :)
[06:55] <Kiongku> intelikey: kdesu does not open the program
[06:55] <xsacha> does it log on momal? :P
[06:55] <momal> yup :D.. in konversation now ^^
[06:55] <Kiongku> i put password but in command it returns back to $ without anything
[06:55] <xsacha> nice
[06:55] <intelikey> Kiongku in a konsole type " kdesu echo yes  "
[06:55] <intelikey> tell us any errors
[06:55] <Kiongku> no errors. plain back to $
[06:56] <justin_> thanks Jucato
[06:56] <Kiongku> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29297/
[06:56] <xsacha> Kiongku: /usr/bin/kdesu echo yes?
[06:56] <Kiongku> see for urself
[06:57] <xsacha> Kiongku!!! Thats a big lot of errors you didnt tell us about
[06:57] <duckdown> How can I go about creating an archive (like a tar) with a password on it, for use on another system?
[06:57] <Kiongku> duh :P sorry
[06:57] <Kiongku> but still
[06:57] <xsacha> it's meant to have no errors
[06:57] <inteliwasp> well i have internet access but lost xorg... i need sleep and some thermite to burn the box with...
[06:57] <Kiongku> hmm xorg?
[06:57] <Jucato> xsacha: those errors are nothing
[06:58] <xsacha> mine has no errors..
[06:58] <Kiongku> ...
[06:58] <Jucato> xsacha: just saying that wacom can't be detected
[06:58] <Jucato> !baddevice
[06:58] <ubotu> If you are getting errors similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[06:58] <Random_Transit> can anyone help me, i just tried to upgrade to edgy using the repos....and now ubuntu won't start
[06:58] <intelikey> Kiongku that's a socket failure  if i'm not mistaken   not kdesu's fault more like ssh-agent or kio
[06:58] <Kiongku> so.. any solution?
[06:58] <Lam_> i fixed it.  anti-aliasing was on Medium.  i switched it to Full, and the bold faced font renderings returned to normal
[06:59] <xsacha> it's device 166 Jucato, not 168.. 166 is a showstopper.. ?
[06:59] <intelikey> Kiongku not famieluar with is.  have you plugged the error into google ?    google "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166"
[06:59] <Kiongku> sure googling now
[06:59] <Jucato> xsacha: AFAIK, the device number varies from system to system
[07:00] <xsacha> everyone else with 166 has showstopper
[07:00] <flaccid> Emess: status of your upgrade?
[07:00] <xsacha> on google
[07:00] <intelikey> with the quotes should help
[07:00] <Jucato> really? hm...
[07:00] <Vipercat> can anyone offer me some install advice for edgy
[07:01] <intelikey> Vipercat mmm don't  ?
[07:01] <Vipercat> i am trying to install it onto a acer veriton3500
[07:01] <flaccid> Vipercat: install it ?
[07:01] <intelikey> lol
[07:01] <flaccid> you just install it..
[07:01] <Emess> flaccid:  still stuck on acpid
[07:01] <xsacha> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1069596 "fixed by deleted the /root/config directory." hmm
[07:01] <intelikey> there you have it.  advised to both install it and not to.
[07:01] <Kiongku> yah
[07:02] <Random_Transit> speaking of installing edgy...i'm having some troubles...
[07:02] <Vipercat> the install starts up and shows the kubuntu logo and scrolling bar then all goes black and thats it
[07:02] <Kiongku> but wher ethe hell is config in kubuntu
[07:02] <intelikey> xsacha ah ha.  just like i MENTIONED so many times kdm writing to /root is *BAD!*  but they wont listen.
[07:02] <aib> the ubuntuguide wiki has a link to `http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg', which is dead. is there an alternate?
[07:02] <flaccid> Emess: whats the current output?
[07:03] <Emess> http://rafb.net/paste/results/n3FKyt11.html
[07:03] <Kiongku> intelikey: any idea about that /root/config directory :S?
[07:03] <flaccid> Emess: did you try installing the packages from kubuntu-desktop manually?
[07:03] <Alter-Ego> Random_Transit: what kind of troubels
[07:03] <flaccid> Emess: please also show the command you ran in the pastebin otherwise we don't know what you did
[07:04] <intelikey> Kiongku yeah.  you can kill X and as root do a rm -r /root  and restart X
[07:04] <Random_Transit> Alter-Ego, ubu won't boot
[07:04] <Emess> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:04] <Emess> acpid is a dependency for it
[07:04] <flaccid> Emess: i assume you didn't try installing the packages separately then
[07:04] <Alter-Ego> Random_Transit: need more information.  what did you do, what happens at boot time, etc.
[07:04] <Random_Transit> Alter-Ego, i upgraded by changing my sources.list to point to the edgy repos
[07:04] <Vipercat> how long should kubuntu edgy take to install approx
[07:05] <Kiongku> intelikey: kill X.. what was the code to kil and restart again forgot
[07:05] <Alter-Ego> and then
[07:05] <ketsugi> ctrl-alt-bksp
[07:05] <Emess> flaccid: no, i wasnt sure how to
[07:05] <Shirakawasuna> hi
[07:05] <KooL4444> Vipercat, just took me about 30 min to install from cd
[07:05] <intelikey> Kiongku sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop      and start
[07:05] <Jucato> Kiongku: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[07:05] <Jucato> or that
[07:05] <flaccid> Emess: i'll pastebin for you
[07:05] <Shirakawasuna> if I get kubuntu 6.10 LTS does that mean I'm stuck with a long-term thing or is that just a way of saying 'this is a fancy release that will be supported for a long time, do with it what you like'?
[07:06] <xsacha> oh ok that 166 isnt a showstopper, just it's the only error that appears for people having troubles :lol:
[07:06] <ketsugi> 6.10 is LTS? I thought only 6.06 was LTS
[07:06] <Alter-Ego> Random_Transit: and then ?
[07:06] <Vipercat> im starting with an unpartitioned disk .. do i need to do anything to it first ?
[07:06] <Random_Transit> Alter-Ego, and then, when all was said and done, i rebooted...and one of the things ubu said on startup was something about not being able to load a driver somewhere
[07:06] <Shirakawasuna> ketsugi: perhaps you're right, lemme go see again
[07:06] <intelikey> Jucato not jsut reset it. that will cause problems cause it's (kdm is) busy writing to /root
[07:06] <Shirakawasuna> ketsugi: ah, so it is, whoops :)
[07:06] <Alter-Ego> so you are working from another pc ?
[07:06] <Shirakawasuna> n/m on the LTS ;)
[07:06] <Jucato> intelikey: aah
[07:06] <flaccid> Emess:  can i pm you?
[07:06] <StarScream> hi guys, having a little issue with edgy. I'm running kubuntu / fresh install of edgy on a g3 800 mhz ibook. I've had dapper and warty running fine on it and i know 3.5.5 is much less cpu / memory hungry than previous kde releases
[07:06] <Alter-Ego> Random_Transit: so you are working from another pc ?
[07:07] <StarScream> but its running really slowly
[07:07] <Emess> flaccid: yes
[07:07] <Random_Transit> no, from another distro
[07:07] <ketsugi> anyway to answer your question Shirakawasuna
[07:07] <ketsugi> it's the latter
[07:07] <StarScream> mainly on HDD access
[07:07] <ketsugi> most Ubuntu releases have like a 1yr support life time or 3yr or something, I forget
[07:07] <Alter-Ego> Random_Transit: so grub is working
[07:07] <StarScream> i've tried  running hdparm with various different options
[07:07] <ketsugi> the LTS releases have a much longer support lifetime
[07:07] <Random_Transit> yes
[07:07] <StarScream> and it isn't any faster / slower than dapper
[07:07] <Vipercat> yep
[07:07] <Random_Transit> GRUB is running off of the other distro
[07:07] <StarScream> really only have issues in X11/kde
[07:07] <Jucato> ketsugi: regular = 18 months. LTS = 3 years (desktop) or 5 years (server)
[07:08] <Alter-Ego> Random_Transit: will *buntu load at all, or does it stop and give you the error about the driver
[07:08] <ketsugi> yeah, what he said
[07:08] <Jucato> hehe
[07:08] <xsacha> Kiongku: is kdesud running?
[07:08] <Random_Transit> Alter-Ego, it TRIES to boot...looks as if it is...and then, just when you think GDM is going to start up...it shuts itself down and reboots
[07:09] <Jucato> hm... GDM?
[07:09] <Random_Transit> err
[07:09] <Random_Transit> KDM
[07:09] <xsacha> lol
[07:10] <Alter-Ego> Random_Transit: you have your /home directory on a seperate partition ?
[07:10] <StarScream> is there any information i can give you guys to make it eaiser to assist. i'm not entirely sure where to go from here.
[07:10] <intelikey> you did something fnacey in a konsole to restart it ?   and when it tries to restore the session it restores the reboot command ?     (i have seen that.)
[07:11] <xsacha> lol
[07:11] <Random_Transit> Alter-Ego...yes, thankfully
[07:12] <Alter-Ego> Random_Transit: don't know.
[07:12] <Random_Transit> crap.
[07:13] <Alter-Ego> if it were me, i would install fresh
[07:13] <Lam_> is there a way to bind my keyboard's suspend key to start the screensaver?
[07:13] <Random_Transit> crap.
[07:14] <Alter-Ego> i have three machines, the laptop krashed, the desktop upgraded with trouble and a fresh install is fine, cept i have to reset my repositories, etc.
[07:14] <Alter-Ego> i always have a seperate /home directory and a seperate /data directory (mysql db, html docs, etc.)
[07:14] <intelikey> Random_Transit you havent been playing with 'update-rc.d'  or the gui equlivent have you ?
[07:15] <Kiongku> intelikey: duh no result
[07:15] <Kiongku> tell me is there a way to completely reinstall kde back to default?
[07:15] <xsacha> Kiongku: is kdesud running?
[07:15] <Kiongku> nope
[07:15] <Lam_> what's the terminal command to invoke the screensaver?
[07:15] <xsacha> it needs to be running
[07:15] <Random_Transit> intelikey, nope
[07:15] <Kiongku> oh that one
[07:15] <Kiongku> yeah kdesud is running
[07:16] <xsacha> k
[07:16] <intelikey> Jucato eeek why you say something when i do things like that ^  "equlivent"   ;/
[07:16] <Jucato> huh?
[07:17] <intelikey> nm   :)
[07:17] <Jucato> :P
[07:17] <Jucato> I remember my promise
[07:17] <Jucato> (actually I was busy reading something else lol!)
[07:17] <jay> YES!!!   You CAN lock a specific version with kubuntu!  Thank you for providing me with the proper search term... Google took care of the rest. :)
[07:17] <Random_Transit> i have a saved backup of my sources.list where everything points to dapper....is there anyway i could just swap that version out and just downgrade??
[07:18] <xsacha> !lock
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <KooL4444> how do i install gedit on kubuntu?
[07:18] <xsacha> ew why you want gedit?
[07:18] <Random_Transit> nano > gedit
[07:18] <Lam_> i prefer kate
[07:18] <KooL4444> every website i see uses gedit
[07:18] <unix_infidel> KooL4444: apt-get install gedit.
[07:18] <xsacha> gedit is just an editor
[07:19] <xsacha> any editor will work
[07:19] <Lam_> KooL4444: try kate instead of gedit as a substitute
[07:19] <Kiongku> darn it
[07:19] <Jucato> gedit isn't on KDE/Kubuntu
[07:19] <flaccid> gedit sux
[07:19] <unix_infidel> KooL4444: however, it is better to use a more advanced text editor, like vim, emacs, or kate.
[07:19] <flaccid> sorry to say
[07:19] <Kiongku> after one day i already have to reinstall
[07:19] <intelikey> Random_Transit sorry apt doesn't play that game.   it's version++ only any version-- you have to specify exactly what you want.
[07:19] <Lam_> flaccid: i agree, gedit is rather lacking, especially when compared to kate
[07:19] <KooL4444> so how do i use kate when i type the gedit command?
[07:19] <Jucato> KooL4444: you just substitute gedit for the text editor that you have installed
[07:19] <xsacha> KooL4444: i suggest replacing anywhere you see with 'gedit' with 'kate'
[07:19] <KooL4444> oh ok
[07:19] <Jucato> KooL4444: usually something like "kdesu kate"
[07:20] <unix_infidel> KooL4444: i still dont get what you mean when you say most websites i see use gedit?
[07:20] <KooL4444> whats kdesu?
[07:20] <Jucato> Kiongku: and please, don't use sudo (or gksudo) when using with kate
[07:20] <Jucato> !kdesu | KooL4444
[07:20] <ubotu> KooL4444: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[07:20] <Lam_> almost all help sites are designed for ubuntu, therefore gedit as its editor
[07:20] <xsacha> howto websites he means, that edit files
[07:20] <intelikey> !sudo | KooL4444
[07:20] <ubotu> KooL4444: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:20] <KooL4444> on all the websites i visit about ubuntu it alsways uses the gedit command
[07:20] <Kiongku> Jucato: i'm going back for a revamp
[07:20] <xsacha> that's ubuntu that uses gnome, this is kubuntu that uses kde
[07:21] <Kiongku> seems more trouble to go find the specific arror
[07:21] <Jucato> KooL4444: it's because Ubuntu uses GNOME, and gedit is a GNOME app
[07:21] <Jucato> Kiongku: :(
[07:21] <xsacha> ubuntu comes with gedit, kubuntu comes with kate as the sort of equivalent gui text editor
[07:21] <Kiongku> *error
[07:21] <intelikey> KooL4444 gnome has gedit  kde has kate/kwrite/kedit   and both have nano
[07:21] <Lam_> equivalent is such a strong word in that context
[07:21] <KooL4444> oh ic now, thats the big difference huh?
[07:21] <ketsugi> gedit? kate?
[07:21] <Jucato> (and vim)
[07:21] <ketsugi> I just vi :)
[07:21] <Jucato> KooL4444: yes
[07:21] <ketsugi> vim, technically :)
[07:21] <KooL4444> gnome and kde
[07:21] <Kiongku> hmm
[07:22] <Jucato> KooL4444: Ubuntu = GNOME, uses gedit, and gksudo. Kubuntu = KDE, uses kate, and kdesu
[07:22] <KooL4444> whats so different in gnome from kde?
[07:22] <xsacha> by the way, no kedit with default packages on kubuntu?
[07:22] <Jucato> xsacha: nope
[07:22] <ketsugi> KooL4444: Generally, Gnome is simpler, requires a bit less configuration, but isn't as customisable
[07:22] <KooL4444> oh ok
[07:22] <Lam_> is there a way to start my screensaver by binding it to a keyboard key?
[07:22] <ketsugi> that's my impression, anyway
[07:22] <intelikey> xsacha no but the 'kde' meta-package installes kedit
[07:22] <ketsugi> I'm sure others will disagree
[07:22] <Jucato> classic definition, but not really 100% accurate :)
[07:23] <aseigo> ... lacks many features and most integration type features
[07:23] <Jucato> intelikey: and a whole load of other stuff :)
[07:23] <KooL4444> so "kdesu kate blah blah blah" is that how i edit files?
[07:23] <Lam_> found it! nvm
[07:23] <intelikey> Jucato but not as much as kubuntu-desktop does  :)
[07:23] <Jucato> ah yes, GNOME isn't as integrated as KDE is :)
[07:23] <Random_Transit> okay....this is interesting...i'm chrooted into ubu's environment....and i decided it might be good measure to try doing a dpkg --configure -a to see if there are some unconfiged packages...turns out there are...
[07:23] <Jucato> intelikey: err... you sure about that? :P
[07:23] <Random_Transit> even more interesting is this....
[07:23] <intelikey> yep
[07:23] <xsacha> KooL4444: yes
[07:23] <unix_infidel> Random_Transit: you're tryign to repair a edgy upgrade?
[07:23] <KooL4444> tyvm
[07:24] <Jucato> intelikey: care to check again?
[07:24] <Random_Transit> unix_infidel, yes
[07:24] <KooL4444> gonna try install beryl again, wish me luck
[07:24] <Random_Transit> Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/makedev ...
[07:24] <Random_Transit> /sbin/MAKEDEV: warning: can't read /proc/devices
[07:24] <Random_Transit> /sbin/MAKEDEV: warning: can't read /proc/devices
[07:24] <Random_Transit> /sbin/MAKEDEV: warning: can't read /proc/devices
[07:24] <Random_Transit> /sbin/MAKEDEV: warning: can't read /proc/devices
[07:24] <Jucato> intelikey: look at it's depends
[07:24] <unix_infidel> !pastebin | Random_Transit
[07:24] <ubotu> Random_Transit: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:24] <Jucato> !pastebin | Random_Transit
[07:24] <Random_Transit> oops
[07:24] <Jucato> lol
[07:24] <Random_Transit> sorry
[07:24] <intelikey> Jucato have.  i am refering to mbites not file count tho
[07:24] <jay> Kool4444:  Maybe its just my personal preference, but I NEVER use anything but nano to edit system files.
[07:24] <Jucato> intelikey: I said loads of stuff, not larger sizes :)
[07:25] <unix_infidel> Random_Transit: from what i've seen, its better to do a clean install than an upgrade.
[07:25] <xsacha> jay: just personal preference :P i use vim
[07:25] <Jucato> meaning, loads of stuff you probably won't need :)
[07:25] <jay> Although, maybe I'm just "old school" :  NEVER use gui as root.
[07:25] <Random_Transit> sweet muthafrakker....there's actually a lot of unconfigged packages here.....
[07:25] <unix_infidel> Random_Transit: its possible, just not well documented enough for ME to even recommend it.
[07:25] <Random_Transit> unix_infidel, duly noted
[07:25] <unix_infidel> or do it on my own production boxes.
[07:26] <KooL4444> is fglrx installed on Edgy?
[07:26] <Kiongku> darn it now automount refuses to work
[07:26] <Jucato> KooL4444: no
[07:26] <Random_Transit> i guess my first mistake was even attempting to do the upgrade from within ubu
[07:27] <unix_infidel> Random_Transit: just backup your home directory and the needed rc files from / and do a clean install.
[07:27] <unix_infidel> shouldnt take more than an hour, tops.
[07:27] <Random_Transit> well, we'll see how this works out
[07:27] <flaccid> installs are quick. upgrades are very long.
[07:27] <Alter-Ego> flaccid: i agree
[07:28] <Kiongku> zzzz..
[07:28] <Alter-Ego> i did an install while using the live cd on the same machine, that was nice
[07:28] <Jucato> intelikey: sorry, never got DCC to work here...
[07:28] <Random_Transit> my fault for jumping into edgy only a couple days after launch
[07:28] <redtricycle> I looked at the kubuntu change list
[07:28] <redtricycle> I'd do it if I still had my laptop though..
[07:28] <jay> flaccid: you aren't KIDDING!  upgraded from Dapper to Edgy.... took HOURS.
[07:28] <Jucato> unix_infidel: there will be more bleeding edge stuff on edgy+1 though...
[07:28] <redtricycle> hah
[07:28] <xsacha> unix_infidel clean install to feisty fawn or upgrade?
[07:28] <redtricycle> im having trouble getting cups working over network
[07:28] <Lam_> what's the best way to access a folder under root?  i had a folder set in gnome to not grant access unless you were root
[07:28] <unix_infidel> Jucato: upgrading doesnt mean dist-upgrade...it just means upgrading.
[07:28] <redtricycle> looked at a couple of guides
[07:28] <KooL4444> how do i install fglrx?
[07:28] <Random_Transit> when does edgy+1 drop???
[07:28] <redtricycle> and it's not helping..
[07:28] <Jucato> unix_infidel: ah :)
[07:29] <Jucato> !ati > KooL4444
[07:29] <redtricycle> In six more months, Random_Transit?
[07:29] <intelikey> the list is more than 10x as long for the deps on kubuntu-desktop than for kde Jucato
[07:29] <Random_Transit> hmm
[07:29] <unix_infidel> yea, about 6
[07:29] <xsacha> Random_Transit: edgy was released ~3 days ago.. releases are every 6 months, so feisty is out in 6 months
[07:29] <Jucato> Lam_: command line, or launch Konqueror as root ("kdesu konqueror")
[07:29] <Lam_> Jucato: ok thanks
[07:29] <Jucato> intelikey: oh? :)
[07:29] <Jucato> intelikey: then I seat corrected :)
[07:30] <intelikey> :)
[07:30] <seishinbyou> Heh, I installed Xubuntu 6.10 for fun, and it actually took more disk space when it was finally installed than Kubuntu 6.10...odd
[07:30] <Kiongku> intelikey:
[07:30] <Kiongku> does kdm do anythign special apart login?
[07:30] <Jucato> seishinbyou: that shouldn't be the case afaik.. weird...
[07:30] <Jucato> Kiongku: logout :)
[07:31] <xsacha> lol
[07:31] <Kiongku> no apart that
[07:31] <intelikey> writes in your /root dir
[07:31] <seishinbyou> Jucato: I know, but that was the case when it finished.  Something like 1.87 gigs to 1.94
[07:31] <Jucato> manage sessions I guess
[07:31] <Kiongku> i messed up with kdm but cant think thats the only reason why kdesu is having hiccups
[07:31] <Kiongku> hmm
[07:31] <Kiongku> oks.
[07:31] <xsacha> the big logout menu only appears in KDM, otherwise you just get an end session i think
[07:31] <seishinbyou> Doesn't matter; Kubuntu is my desktop and I have vmwared machines for work and fun
[07:32] <Kiongku> for console login
[07:32] <seishinbyou> Windows 3.11 forever
[07:32] <DrZoot> well adept has given me the shits for the last time, bonvoyage all, im back to gentoo
[07:32] <Kiongku> my login name and password does not work
[07:32] <xsacha> ^o)
[07:32] <intelikey> replace kdm with xdm and see what happens.
[07:32] <Jucato> DrZoot: have you tried something else? like Synaptic or apt-get?
[07:32] <Jucato> Adept isn't really the best thing in the world right now
[07:32] <Kiongku> never mind it.. cleaning and coming abck
[07:32] <Kiongku> then access each error
[07:33] <DrZoot> Jucato: yeah ive tried apt-get (i migrated from debian so ive used synaptic a fair bit) but the whole thing just rubs me the wrong way
[07:34] <intelikey> DrZoot you could "emerge" everything in gentoo's distro
[07:34] <Jucato> DrZoot: ah I see. any particular problems?
[07:34] <jay> DrZoot:  I also used Gentoo for years... it certainly took getting used to when I switched to Kubuntu
[07:35] <xsacha> CRUX ftw
[07:35] <Random_Transit> DrZoot, i use both ubu and gentoo (actually i'm using gentoo right now to repair my broken edgy install)
[07:35] <DrZoot> Jucato: Well tbh, its a bit slow. Apart from that and my growing dislike for adept, Im beginning to remeber all the reasons why I liked gentoo somuch
[07:35] <Kiongku> intelikey: know about e17?
[07:35] <Random_Transit> DrZoot, here here...
[07:36] <intelikey> Kiongku no.
[07:36] <Jucato> DrZoot: I don't like Adept that much either. about the slowness, have you tried using other mirrors?
[07:36] <seishinbyou> Well, the Gentoo cow did look more like a cow than the debian/ubuntu "cow" in apt-get
[07:36] <Jucato> seishinbyou: agreed :)
[07:36] <intelikey> cow ?
[07:36] <seishinbyou> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/56125
[07:36] <seishinbyou> that cow
[07:37] <Kiongku> probably messed up from there
[07:37] <DrZoot> Jucato: I mean system slowness, its not exactly super quick. With gentoo if something doesnt run as fast as I want I know there are a bundle of steps I can take to make it run quicker, where as ubu with its precompiled packages is a bit more difficult
[07:37] <Kiongku> BRB... hope i can arrange everything back to norm
[07:37] <Jucato> DrZoot: well, that's the trade off you get for precompiled packages I guess
[07:37] <momal> whats a godo quick program to convert .sub subtitles to .srt ones
[07:38] <Edge888> Hi guys, what is the repository of PLF?
[07:38] <Jucato> !plf
[07:38] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[07:38] <xsacha> LOL
[07:38] <Lam_> that's hot
[07:38] <DrZoot> Jucato: yeah, Im not really complaining, its just not a trade off that I can live with, personal preference more than anything
[07:38] <DrZoot> Jucato: cant*
[07:39] <Jucato> DrZoot: you can always compile everything I guess. Ubuntu does provide the deb-src
[07:39] <jay> DrZoot: Check out http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html ... it might help you out in that department. :)
[07:39] <Edge888> thanks a lot :D
[07:39] <intelikey> Jucato make guntoo out of ubuntu.....  <blinks??
[07:40] <Jucato> intelikey: well, I'm *almost* doing it, by installing bits and pieces of stuff only (no kubuntu-desktop for me)
[07:40] <DrZoot> Jucato: yeah I had a look at compiling from source with apt-src and friends when I was running debian sid but its just not worth the effort, gentoo handles it all much better.
[07:40] <seishinbyou> gubuntu ahoy
[07:41] <intelikey> no no i'm talking about the "you can always compile everything I guess."   ^   O.o
[07:41] <Jucato> DrZoot: yeah. Gentoo is really meant for that kind of stuff you want :)
[07:41] <Jucato> intelikey: "I guess"
[07:41] <seishinbyou> Hardest part with adoption of Linux in this office is that everyone *really really* likes the WinXP interface and can't imagine anything else.  It is a sad situation
[07:42] <Homer> I had win xp interface
[07:42] <Homer> hate
[07:42] <Jucato> they like it?
[07:42] <intelikey> well i "guess" one could.....   it's like reinventing the linux wheel though.
[07:42] <Homer> it's ugly
[07:42] <Homer> and smells
[07:42] <Jucato> intelikey: or the kubuntu wheel :)
[07:42] <seishinbyou> Many are typical Japanese salarymen.  Of course they are brainwashed to love WinXP
[07:42] <Jucato> hahah
[07:42] <jay> Wow, seishinbyou.... WinXP is the reason I'm a Linux user... I hated it.
[07:42] <Jucato> seishinbyou: haven't they gotten tired of the same look over and over and over and over and over again?
[07:43] <Homer> yeah the windows ui blows
[07:43] <seishinbyou> jay: no complaints here.  I despise it too, myself
[07:43] <intelikey> jay....  brother, where you been ?
[07:43] <intelikey> :)
[07:43] <Homer> especially that blue default theme
[07:43] <Homer> yuck
[07:43] <seishinbyou> Jucato: Japanese salaryman lifestyle is all about doing the same thing over and over and over...
[07:43] <seishinbyou> Work harder, not smarter
[07:43] <Jucato> er...
[07:43] <KooL4444> whats the command to check if fglrx is running?
[07:43] <Jucato> :(
[07:44] <seishinbyou> Well, to be fair, the ones in this office aren't *that* bad.  KDDI and Hitachi were the worst
[07:44] <intelikey> KooL4444 pidof <any-command>
[07:44] <jay> Now.. if we can just get an SPSS client for Linux....
[07:44] <Jucato> intelikey: fglrx is the ATI binary driver...
[07:45] <intelikey> Jucato it not have a process id ?
[07:45] <Jucato> intelikey: afaik, no. that would be strange
[07:45] <Jucato> well, nvidia doesn't
[07:45] <momal> whats a good quick program to convert .sub subtitles to .srt ones
[07:46] <intelikey> oh you mean driver/module
[07:46] <Jucato> yesh
[07:46] <Lam_> is there a way to change the sort preference in kopete to ignore status and sort alphabetically?
[07:46] <intelikey> hehhe ok.  no pids there.  lsmod  for kernel modules not sure outside the kernel....
[07:47] <momal> is it possible to have say english and japanese language pages installed and change between them like clicking a button ?
[07:47] <kazaru> hello any one know why my cursor disappears when xserver is restarted?
[07:47] <intelikey> momal yep
[07:47] <momal> how?
[07:47] <intelikey> i new you were going to ask that......
[07:48] <intelikey> s/new/knew/
[07:48] <Jucato> intelikey: tell it to KooL4444. lsmod | grep something?
[07:48] <jay> KooL4444:  Try lsmod | grep fglrx
[07:48] <intelikey> Jucato is it inserted into the kernel or just used by x ?
[07:48] <KooL4444> nothing
[07:49] <Jucato> intelikey: err.. don't know. how do binary drivers work?
[07:49] <intelikey> if it's not inserted into the kernel that wont show.
[07:49] <Jucato> KooL4444: have you restarted X after installing fglrx?
[07:49] <KooL4444> yeh
[07:49] <jay> Just a thought.. it worked for me ... except it was grep nvidia.
[07:49] <intelikey> xorg should have a function and possably even a veriable set  that will tell you what driver it's using.
[07:50] <KooL4444> so i should look in there for fglrx?
[07:50] <Jucato> KooL4444: you can look in System Settings -> Monitor & Display -> Hardware tab to check what driver is being use
[07:50] <Jucato> s/use/used
[07:51] <intelikey> s/.*/*d/   :)
[07:51] <KooL4444> nice, yeh its using fglrx, gonna try beryl now
[07:51] <intelikey> patch the roof....
[07:52] <Jucato> we tried. the darn carpenter can't see where the leak is coming from..
[07:52] <intelikey> dpkg --patch roof roof.tgz
[07:52] <Jucato> lol
[07:52] <intelikey> :)
[07:52] <Jucato> if it were only that easy
[07:53] <intelikey> that's not even a working command  but the joke worked.
[07:53] <Jucato> this is weird.. hm... restarting Konvi "again"
[07:54] <sebastian22> hi. I need some help. When i see youtube videos or flash in general they look very bad, not fluid at all
[07:55] <sebastian22> hello?
[07:55] <intelikey> Jucato why all the reconnects ?  issues with the client ?
[07:55] <Jucato> intelikey: sound notification acting a bit weird..
[07:55] <Jucato> this is what you get for kustomized installs :P
[07:56] <sebastian22> any help please
[07:56] <intelikey>  !i
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <intelikey> \!i
[07:56] <Jucato> ??
[07:57] <intelikey> jucato  !i == not I   @  sebastian22    but the stupid bot reacted to it....
[07:58] <maltaethiron> lol
[07:58] <Jucato> ah
[07:59] <intelikey> i put a space before the !   but ubotus must have missed that....
[07:59] <Jucato> maybe it ignores leading whitespaces
[08:00] <intelikey> i guess.   seems to.    most likely does.      yep.    sure enough.
[08:00] <sebastian22> I heard something about giving more memory or something to flash?
[08:00] <intelikey> !flash
[08:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:00] <Jucato> !flash sound
[08:00] <intelikey> nothing specific on flash
[08:01] <maltaethiron> guys, is flash 9 out yet?  ive kinda not been paying attention lately
[08:01] <intelikey> sebastian22 that doesn't mean there is not a wiki on it.  that just means we have not info node refering to it...  try searching on the wiki's
[08:01] <Jucato> !flash 9
[08:01] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[08:01] <maltaethiron> rock on
[08:02] <seishinbyou> what do you want to put rocks on?
[08:02] <maltaethiron> oh, you know
[08:02] <Jucato> lol
[08:02] <intelikey> notice that is *BETA*
[08:03] <sebastian22> I have flash 9 installed
[08:03] <seishinbyou> Yeah, like the word "BETA" has ever stopped anyone here before
[08:03] <sebastian22> the problem is that my videos look with cuts on it
[08:03] <intelikey> just want you to know.  so when you have issues with it....
[08:04] <maltaethiron> is gmail still labled as beta really?
[08:04] <maltaethiron> wow
[08:04] <seishinbyou> I don't mind so much because I only install/test on non-mission critical systems anyways
[08:04] <Random_Transit> i think they're just too damn lazy to change it
[08:04] <Jucato> ok sound notifications gone again...
[08:04] <intelikey> so are several things you wouldn't expect.
[08:04] <seishinbyou> Who cares if it sets itself on fire and kills 300 salarymen
[08:04] <Jucato> must be arts...
[08:06] <intelikey> hehhe i just noticed that this box is a hybird ?buntu   the desktop is obviously nome but all the apps in the menus are k*  hehhe i must have set it up....
[08:06] <Jucato> ah there... it's back :)
[08:07] <Jucato> this box, on the other hand, is pure :P
[08:07] <Jucato> hm... actually no... I think I got a few GNOME-ish stuff installed here, because of depends...
[08:07] <intelikey> thuro-bread ?  (:
[08:08] <Jucato> huh?
[08:08] <Jucato> thoroughbred?
[08:08] <intelikey> phonitic  yes.
[08:08] <Jucato> lol
[08:08] <KooL4444> ok just followed the directions to install beryl, and restrted my computer, now it get to the login screen, i login and it goes to a blank screen for 1sec then back to the login screen. did i miss somthin?
[08:08] <Jucato> I wasn't trying to correct you...
[08:09] <Jucato> !beryl
[08:09] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[08:09] <intelikey> i know.
[08:12] <KooL4444> no one else has had this problem?
[08:12] <seishinbyou> When I had that problem, it was a problem with my xorg.conf file
[08:12] <intelikey> KooL4444 !i
[08:12] <seishinbyou> specifically, lines pertaining to glx
[08:12] <Jucato> KooL4444: you could probably try asking in #ubuntu-xgl, as this might be related to that
[08:13] <KooL4444> yeh im trying, doesnt seem like there are as many ppl there
[08:14] <Jucato> considering timezones... I'm not surprised..
[08:14] <seishinbyou> Since I am morbidly lazy when it comes to this stuff, though, I always just keep a backup of a working xorg.conf and replace it whenever anything goes wrong
[08:14] <KooL4444> i know how i can get it to work back to normal, but i cant get beryl to work
[08:15] <seishinbyou> I could c&p my xorg.conf file, though I don't know how much good that would do you
[08:16] <KooL4444> thats all i got so i would appreciate it
[08:16] <KooL4444> ill just compare
[08:16] <seishinbyou> Okay, how do I use this pastebin thing...
[08:16] <seishinbyou> !pastebin
[08:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:17] <seishinbyou> just a sec
[08:18] <Raminagrobis> hello
[08:18] <Raminagrobis> i've got a litte problem
[08:19] <Raminagrobis> On my hard disk, there is only one tiny fat32 partition (20go) i can access to to from both linux and windows (
[08:19] <seishinbyou> KooL4444: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29320/
[08:20] <Raminagrobis> i've got a free 60 go ntfs partition i'd like to reformat in fat32 to share it between both OS too but windows doesn't want to
[08:20] <seishinbyou> I have some really messed up hardware, though, so sorry for any confusion in advance
[08:20] <Raminagrobis> is 60 go too big for FAT32 ?
[08:20] <kraut> moin
[08:21] <Jucato> Raminagrobis: afaik, yes
[08:21] <Jucato> FAT32 has a limit of 32GB iirc
[08:21] <Kiongku> duh
[08:21] <Kiongku> clena install
[08:21] <KooL4444> ty seichinbyou
[08:21] <Kiongku> *clean .. kdesu seems to be working now
[08:21] <Raminagrobis> 32 gb!
[08:21] <Raminagrobis> it's tiny
[08:21] <Kiongku> i'm back..
[08:21] <Jucato> Kiongku: welcome back to the edge
[08:21] <Kiongku> lol i hope i can cling to it.. last time i fell over the edge XD
[08:21] <Jucato> yeah
[08:21] <Jucato> over the hedge
[08:22] <Jucato> I mean edge
[08:22] <Raminagrobis> so how to you manage wshen you have a 450 Gb HD and you install linux??
[08:22] <Jucato> Raminagrobis: I'm not entirely sure of that 32GB limit
[08:22] <Jucato> but that's what happened the last time I tried
[08:23] <seishinbyou> The same way when you have a 750GB drive, just install it
[08:23] <Raminagrobis> seems to,  windows accept to reformat my 20 go partition in fat 32 but not my 40 and my 60
[08:23] <Raminagrobis> yu make dozens of partitions?
[08:23] <seishinbyou> Nope
[08:23] <seishinbyou> I don't use FAT32
[08:24] <Raminagrobis> But i want my partitions to be useable brom linux and windows
[08:24] <Jucato> Raminagrobis: I think there's a program, forgot the name, something like fs-driver, that allows you to read/write to ext3 partitions in XP
[08:25] <Raminagrobis> ok
[08:25] <Raminagrobis> but there is nothing better that fat32 that allow a 'native' share (r/wp) between xp and linux?
[08:26] <seishinbyou> oops, Konversation went *poop*
[08:26] <Jucato> it went krap?
[08:26] <seishinbyou> Yeah, it krashed
[08:26] <Jucato> ah.. :(
[08:28] <Kiongku> Jucato: hey.. if u logout while konversation , etc is still open.. do u get signit?
[08:28] <Kiongku> seems they do not close properly if logout immediately..
[08:28] <intelikey> "<Jucato> Raminagrobis: I think there's a program, forgot the name,"  there is also an extfsexplorer for that other os.
[08:28] <Kiongku> intelikey: yo back on the edge..
[08:28] <Jucato> intelikey: does it allow write access?
[08:29] <intelikey> i think so....
[08:29] <Jucato> intelikey: not sure. I don't like to set "Restore form previous session on"
[08:29] <Raminagrobis> ok thanks
[08:29] <intelikey> you know i don't do windows
[08:29] <wedgeV> i have a problem with konsole, sometimes it doesnt scroll with the application output
[08:29] <Raminagrobis> too bad, microsoft could integrate sda3 since it's open code :-p
[08:29] <Kiongku> sda3?
[08:29] <Jucato> sda3?
[08:29] <Kiongku> !sad3
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sad3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <Kiongku> !sda3
[08:30] <Jucato> I think he meant ext3 Kiongku
[08:30] <Raminagrobis> ext3
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sda3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <Kiongku> hahaha
[08:30] <Raminagrobis> bye
[08:30] <Raminagrobis> a+
[08:30] <Kiongku> b
[08:30] <Jucato> F
[08:30] <intelikey> q
[08:30] <Kiongku> hey intelikey .. kdesu kate in konsole = freeze..
[08:31] <intelikey> Kiongku nice.  how did you manage that ?
[08:31] <Kiongku> no idea..
[08:31] <DHGE> Raminagrobis: ext3 is not a solution if you use characters like Umlauts 
[08:31] <Jucato> lol
[08:31] <DHGE> fat neither
[08:31] <DHGE> use ntfs-3g
[08:31] <Kiongku> may be kdesu sometimes hates me
[08:32] <intelikey> ntfs-3g   ???   have link?
[08:32] <Kiongku> to open adept.. sometimes need to open it twice or thrice for kdesu to appear -_-
[08:32] <DHGE> http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[08:32] <DHGE> it is in universe
[08:32] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g
[08:32] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[08:32] <intelikey> Kiongku   kdesu echo yes    if it barks yes back at you it's not kdesu.
[08:32] <Jucato> Kiongku: happens to me sometimes as well
[08:33] <KooL4444> # Start GNOME
[08:33] <KooL4444> exec gnome-session
[08:33] <DHGE> now I use VMWARE for windows and link via SMB-shares to common data
[08:33] <Jucato> intelikey: what if it moos yes back?
[08:33] <KooL4444> i thought kubuntu doesnt use gnome?
[08:33] <Jucato> it doesn't
[08:33] <KooL4444> how come beryl uses that command?
[08:33] <Kiongku> intelikey: i hate that dog.. but it does bark back..
[08:33] <intelikey> then it's a sick puppy Jucato  :)
[08:34] <Kiongku> duh
[08:34] <Kiongku> intelikey: www.get-e.org thats the thing i was tinking with before my system run amocks XD
[08:34] <keyo> hey how do i enable root login
[08:34] <Kiongku> put it was not supposed to since i put it separately
[08:34] <ketsugi> KooL4444: If you want to use KDE use `exec startkde` instead
[08:34] <Kiongku> p/put/but
[08:35] <Jucato> !RootSudo
[08:35] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:35] <Jucato> keyo: ^^^^^
[08:35] <keyo> sudo did not work
[08:35] <Jucato> keyo: did not work where?
[08:35] <intelikey> Kiongku i don't know anything about e##  so i'll have to pass,
[08:35] <KooL4444> ketsugi, that is a command in the .Xsession file to start Beryl
[08:35] <ketsugi> yeah
[08:36] <KooL4444> should i change it to what you said?
[08:36] <ketsugi> use startkde if you want KDE
[08:36] <ketsugi> gnome-session if you want Gnome
[08:36] <KooL4444> gotcha kk
[08:36] <KooL4444> ill try it
[08:36] <keyo> i burnt the image for the new kubuntu cd and tryed to install it by running cdromupgrade
[08:37] <Kiongku> intelikey: yah
[08:37] <keyo> permissions denied, i set the location with cd and then used sudo ./cdrom.... to run it
[08:37] <Jucato> Kiongku: E17?
[08:37] <Jucato> keyo: tried to install it where?
[08:38] <wombat_> heheh, I got it :D
[08:39] <weedar> Does anyone else have trouble with FF 2.0 crashing randomly/all the time in Edgy?
[08:39] <Kiongku> Jucato: yep.
[08:39] <keyo> its beta isnt it
[08:39] <Jucato> keyo: what do you mean? Edgy has been released
[08:39] <KooL4444> ketsugi: so i put in there, "exec startkde"?
[08:40] <keyo> i know that
[08:40] <Jucato> Kiongku: hm... you might want to wait for Hawkwind to wake up as he's the e17 expert
[08:40] <keyo> never mind
[08:40] <Motorhead> hai
[08:40] <KooL4444> or  just "startkde" ??
[08:40] <ketsugi> exec startkde
[08:40] <Jucato> keyo: anyway, that RootSudo link has instructions for what you wanted to do
[08:40] <KooL4444> k
[08:40] <Jucato> I'm just not sure if it's the solution to your problem
[08:41] <keyo> i'm just sick of passwords every 2min, i thought i had enabled it in the settings obviously not though
[08:42] <Jucato> iirc it was 5 mins...
[08:42] <nix-noob> umm, question: is there any other difference between ubuntu and kubuntu besides the fact that it uses KDE insted of gnome?
[08:42] <mulder> I cannot type anything when I open a new root shell in the konsole. Anyone who can help me?
[08:42] <keyo> yes, default applications
[08:43] <Lam_> is there a way to change the sort preference in kopete to ignore status and sort alphabetically?
[08:43] <Jucato> mulder: the terminal doesn't echo the password that you type
[08:43] <keyo> #kopete
[08:43] <mulder>  basically nothing can't be typed Jucato
[08:43] <nix-noob> the defult apps are part of KDE, eg konq insted of natulus?
[08:43] <Jucato> mulder: when you try to enter your password?
[08:43] <DHGE> nix-noob: the CDs come with *either* - lots of space needed - install the other later
[08:44] <mulder> I open the konsole, then choose a new root shell, and then it comes with password, From there I cannot type anything
[08:44] <Jucato> nix-noob: kate instead of gedit, konsole instead of gnome-terminal, etc. but the greatest difference really is that one uses KDE and the other uses GNOME
[08:44] <arschkind> hallo you nice people
[08:44] <KooL4444> fuck yeh IT WORKS!~!!!!
[08:44] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!
[08:44] <mulder> but in the Shell Konsole I can :-(
[08:44] <KooL4444> TY SO MUCH
[08:44] <KooL4444> finally some eye-candy!!!
[08:44] <ketsugi> Have fun, KooL4444 :)
[08:44] <Jucato> mulder: that's wha I'm telling you. you just type your password. you won't really see what you type
[08:45] <mulder> it uses to work fine before, I could see. Ah ok let me try
[08:47] <mulder> this is the message now: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc         ess using it?
[08:47] <Jucato> mulder: what are you trying to do, btw?
[08:47] <mulder> just trying to get updates and stuff
[08:47] <mulder> with the konsole, it works fine under adept, but not in the konsole.
[08:47] <Jucato> well you don't need to go to a root shell. just "sudo apt-get update"
[08:47] <harmental> hi everybody...is it safe to upgrade to edgy or a clean install must be made?
[08:48] <Jucato> mulder: is Adept still running?
[08:48] <mulder> no
[08:48] <Jucato> mulder: I'm guessing Adept crashed recently or was terminated. try entering this command "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[08:49] <mulder> message: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[08:49] <intelikey> something is running.
[08:49] <Jucato> hm...
[08:50] <Kiongku> harmental: nto safe.. not safe at all
[08:50] <Jucato> mulder: sudo killall adept
[08:50] <mulder> you are right about adept, it didn't close properly
[08:50] <mulder> ok
[08:50] <Jucato> mulder: after that, run the dpkg command again
[08:51] <mulder> adept: no process killed
[08:51] <harmental> Kiongku: so should I format my whole partition?
[08:51] <Jucato> !adept crash fix > mulder
[08:51] <Jucato> mulder: try the commands that was sent to you
[08:51] <intelikey> harmental you should always format "whole partitions"   care to rephrase that ?
[08:51] <mulder> OK jucato
[08:51] <bioticpro> Anyone here use k9copy? I need help with it
[08:52] <Kiongku> harmental: back up and the u might try update.. but be prepared to redo a clean install
[08:52] <Jucato> Kiongku: believe it or not, some were entirely successful in upgrading...
[08:52] <Kiongku> Jucato: yah but better warn than getting then here howling
[08:52] <harmental> Kiongku: sorry.....should I format my linux partition and install it from scratch then?
[08:52] <Kiongku> *n/then/them
[08:53] <Kiongku> harmental: a clean install 99.9 % guaranteed success and no headaches. ur choice.. its the best solution if u have nothing important to keep
[08:53] <harmental> Kiongku: ok thx
[08:53] <mulder> aaaah it asked me if I wanted to kill process 4960 F adept manager!
[08:54] <Jucato> mulder: ah sorry, you're on edgy?
[08:54] <mulder> yes
[08:54] <Jucato> mulder: sudo killall adept_manager
[08:54] <Jucato> mulder: then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[08:54] <Jucato> or have you done that already?
[08:55] <mulder> yes
[08:55] <Jucato> mulder: ok then, you're free to sudo apt-get update (if that's what you were trying to do)
[08:57] <mulder> ok i try
[08:58] <mulder> it works...Thanks Jucato. Why happened exactly there so I know?
[08:59] <intelikey> and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:59] <Jucato> intelikey: already on edgy :P
[08:59] <intelikey> so    to fetch any updates.
[08:59] <Kiongku> hmm
[08:59] <mulder> I love it :-) works like a charm, apart from my audigy 2zs, logitech webcam and canon printer
[08:59] <Jucato> mulder: Adept didn't finish what it was doing when it shutdown, therefore locking the package database
[08:59] <intelikey> or do you not do bugfixes and security updates ?
[09:00] <flaccid> with scully.........
[09:00] <mulder> :-)
[09:00] <Jucato> lol
[09:00] <flaccid> :p
[09:00] <flaccid> bbs soon after sesh
[09:00] <mulder> Ahhhh scully!
[09:00] <seishinbyou> Logitech webcams...I could never get them working under Ubuntu, either
[09:00] <mulder> ah :-(
[09:00] <mulder> audigy 2zs?
[09:01] <seishinbyou> I don't know about that.  The Canon printers I had luck with, but I don't remember what I did anymore
[09:01] <Kiongku> intelikey: whats teh command code to symlink all files in /usr/bin to /opt/e17/bin ?
[09:01] <intelikey> ls -s /usr/bin  /opt/e17/bin
[09:02] <mulder> My printer is an MP130 Canon
[09:02] <intelikey> ln
[09:02] <intelikey> sorry.
[09:02] <Kiongku> ?
[09:02] <intelikey> ln -s /usr/bin  /opt/e17/bin
[09:02] <seishinbyou> Ah, I'm still using the old PM760 from when I worked there
[09:02] <mulder> for me the commande Intel?
[09:02] <intelikey> for Kiongku
[09:02] <Kiongku> ok
[09:02] <mulder> ah sorry
[09:03] <Kiongku> intelikey: bcoz e17 has root as /opt/e17/bin... if i do that i can run the progs in /usr/bin without prob?
[09:04] <intelikey> beets me.   i'd have thought you needed to go the other way.   ln -s /opt/e17/bin  /usr/bin/e17          or the like.....
[09:05] <momal> hmm how can i enable a mount to a harddrive writeable by all users/groups?
[09:05] <intelikey> but apps can do anything with $PATH that the writer codes in....
[09:05] <momal> for some reason mine just suddenly stopped allowing a non root user to write to them >_<
[09:05] <mulder> anybody knows how to have my audigy 2zs recognised? I only have the intel onboard at the moment. Do I have to get some drivers or something else?
[09:05] <intelikey> momal what fs ?
[09:06] <momal> vfat(fat32)
[09:06] <mulder> This I have been trying for days, but with no success.
[09:06] <intelikey> umask=000
[09:06] <momal> yay thanks ^_-
[09:07] <momal> what about for reading from ntfs? seems i can't do that either lol
[09:07] <intelikey> momal man fstab     hit /   and type in   umask [enter] 
[09:07] <intelikey> and read
[09:07] <momal> oh yea i got the umask bit in... ^_-
[09:09] <intelikey> yeah and if you do what i said... (though it's not likely)  you will learn that   the reason you need umask is because to the missing information on the fs and that it applies to several fs's
[09:09] <intelikey> namely those that M$ uses....
[09:09] <momal> lol i dont' seem to have that info in man fstab lol. i just had to set the umask in the advanced bit under the disk manager... but i forgot what it was i needed :p... so yea that helped out ^^
[09:10] <intelikey> try man mount then    one is a link to the other here...
[09:10] <martin_> Guys how do you manually save a KDE session??  I'm running Beryl which doesn't seem to want to let me logout at the moment.
[09:14] <martin_> never mind - googled it...
[09:15] <nacht> hi somebody know why the it.archive.ubuntu.com is offline?
[09:15] <momal> whats the command to set the system to use a certain parttion for swap?
[09:16] <Teejay__> question even after installing the plugins to play the restricted media on kubuntu 6.10, do you still have a problem playing mp3's on amarok?
[09:17] <jorik> momal: swapon /dev/XXX (or edit /etc/fstab)
[09:17] <Kiongku> !libxine-*
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxine-* - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <Kiongku> hmm does not work :p
[09:18] <momal> what do i use for the mountpoint in fstab?
[09:18] <momal> for swap that is
[09:19] <KooL4444> where do i add a startup program in kubuntu?
[09:19] <Jucato> ~/.kde/Autostart
[09:20] <KooL4444> does that already exist? or am  i making this file?
[09:20] <Jucato> it's a folder
[09:20] <Jucato> it exists already
[09:21] <momal> just put in links/programs/shell scripts in that folder and give it +x permissions and should start up fine :)
[09:21] <intelikey> Kiongku the bot escapes wild cards
[09:21] <jorik> momal: mount the device as (-t) a swap area, without (none) a mount point eg: in fstab my line looks like: /dev/sda6       none            swap    sw              0       0
[09:21] <Jucato> KooL4444: or probably something easier... set you session to "Restore from previous session" (which is already on by default), and leave the programs running when you log out
[09:21] <KooL4444> how would i add the command "beryl-manager" in startup?
[09:22] <Jucato> ah that's a different case then...
[09:23] <momal> well you could just create new shell script to run it but that could be a little nasty :p
[09:23] <KooL4444> add "beryl-manager" in startup programs (System -> Preferences -> Sessions).
[09:23] <KooL4444> is what it says on the website
[09:23] <momal> jorik: thanks
[09:23] <KooL4444> i dont understand that
[09:24] <KooL4444> i think thats for ubuntu
[09:24] <mulder> crap kaffeine doesn't display videos at all, only but the sound.
[09:24] <intelikey> i don't think you need any referance to the swap partition in fstab   one of   mountall.sh mountdevsubfs mountvirtfs  scripts  seem to search for swap partitions.
[09:25] <intelikey> warpers nasty ?     momal
[09:26] <KooL4444> i dont even know what a shell script is
[09:26] <momal> nar i mean nasty as in beryl manager its self.. because sometimes when it starts up it can die so :p...
[09:26] <momal> but if you want to do it
[09:26] <KooL4444> oh
[09:26] <momal> create a new file in there and put in
[09:26] <KooL4444> nah, theres gotta be a reasonable solution
[09:27] <momal> #!/bin/sh
[09:27] <momal> beryl-manager
[09:27] <mulder> Anybody has Kaffeine working properly, or installed VLC who could help me please?
[09:27] <momal> then save as beryl.sh and | sudo chmod +x beryl.sh
[09:27] <KooL4444> thats the shell script method?
[09:27] <momal> save it in /home/username/.kde/Autostart/
[09:27] <momal> yea
[09:27] <KooL4444> k ill try it
[09:28] <intelikey> KooL4444    edit   ~/.xsession    and add   beryl-manager
[09:28] <momal> or you could do that :p
[09:28] <KooL4444> oh ok, that sounds easier
[09:28] <KooL4444> lol
[09:28] <KooL4444> just add that at the end? no exec command or anything?
[09:29] <intelikey> put it before the last itom if the file exists...
[09:30] <intelikey> if it needs to be flushed to the background so that something else will start   add  &
[09:30] <intelikey> beryl-manager &
[09:30] <KooL4444> so do i put it before or after "exec startkde"?
[09:30] <intelikey> before  and add &
[09:30] <KooL4444> ok ty
[09:30] <intelikey> wait.
[09:30] <KooL4444> ?
[09:30] <intelikey> wait.   maybe i need more info
[09:31] <intelikey> what exactly does  beryl-manager  do ?
[09:31] <KooL4444> starts beryl i think
[09:31] <KooL4444> thats the command i used to start it
[09:31] <Jucato> intelikey: manages beryl
[09:31] <Jucato> :P
[09:31] <pielgrzym> hello people - somebody please try to reproduce the bug (it's described in comment how to reproduce it) - it's a really annoying critical one: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/69007
[09:31] <intelikey> then yeah i'd say before kde
[09:31] <KooL4444> with the &
[09:31] <KooL4444> ?
[09:31] <intelikey> yes
[09:32] <KooL4444> k ill try it
[09:32] <Jucato> pielgrzym: sorry, I can't reproduce that. I leave my PC on for hours, but no errors.
[09:33] <intelikey> Jucato what version is that on ^ ?
[09:33] <pielgrzym> Jucato: I see
[09:33] <Jucato> pielgrzym: Edgy right?
[09:33] <pielgrzym> Jucato: tried leaving it just after login?
[09:34] <pielgrzym> Jucato: right :(
[09:34] <Jucato> pielgrzym: yes I have. nothing
[09:34] <Jucato> power manager settings maybe?
[09:34] <intelikey> k i don't have the salamander...
[09:34] <Jucato> or something...
[09:34] <Jucato> intelikey: it's a newt, actually
[09:34] <pielgrzym> Jucato: this is a really good idea! I'll check that
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> pielgrzym: neither can i
[09:34] <Jucato> ey hi Admiral_Chicago
[09:34] <intelikey> well !
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Ju-
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> err Jucato how is it going?
[09:35] <Jucato> doing fine :)
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm working on Beowulf. the epic not the program
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> it's so boring
[09:35] <pielgrzym> Jucato: where is the power management located in edgy settings? can't find it?
[09:35] <Jucato> pielgrzym: although I might not be the right person to try to confirm... I run on a very customized system....
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> pielgrzym: it's called Guidance
[09:35] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: I don't know a Beowolf program...
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> did you check system settings? maybe dvanced
[09:36] <Jucato> pielgrzym: in System Settings, Advanced probably
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato:  it's a clustering program
[09:36] <mulder> Christophe Lambert played in a Beowulf movie a few years ago...now that was boring!
[09:36] <Jucato> lol
[09:36] <intelikey> apt-cache search cluster
[09:36] <Jucato> christopher lambert as raiden in Mortal Kombat. *that* was boring
[09:36] <mulder> worse than Solaris!
[09:36] <overlimit> how can I upgrade my kubuntu to 6.10?
[09:36] <overlimit> from 6.06
[09:36] <Jucato> !upgrade | overlimit
[09:36] <ubotu> overlimit: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:37] <mulder> Watch Charlemagne and see :-)
[09:37] <mulder> Jucato I will need your science again please. Can you help?
[09:37] <Jucato> mulder: if I could, I would
[09:38] <Jucato> but there are other who could also help :)
[09:38] <mulder> :-) thank you kind sir.
[09:38] <mulder> I have a few things actually.
[09:38] <Jucato> O_O
[09:38] <mulder> I can't have the video in kaffeine, only the sound!!
[09:38] <mulder> so I am trying to download VLC instead.
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> mulder: what driver are you using
[09:38] <Jucato> mulder: what are you trying to play?
[09:39] <mulder> yesterday it was an avi file
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> my buddy couldn't get videos to play in Edgy
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> clean install too
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: same here
[09:39] <ketsugi> clean install is the problem
[09:39] <mulder> is VLC better than K?
[09:39] <ketsugi> You need to install the non-free codecs
[09:39] <mulder> ah..how can I do that?
[09:39] <Jucato> mulder: have you installed libxine-extracodecs?
[09:39] <ketsugi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:39] <mulder> not sure
[09:39] <Jucato> !libxine-extracodecs > mulder
[09:40] <mulder> in the konsole?
[09:40] <Jucato> err.. use that link ketsugi gave
[09:40] <mulder> ah ok
[09:40] <Jucato> mulder: you might also need this one
[09:40] <ketsugi> Either in the Konsole or in Adept
[09:40] <ketsugi> doesn't matter
[09:40] <Jucato> !multiverse > mulder
[09:40] <edge888> hi! I just upgraded my Kubuntu to Edgy Eft, however, my frostwire doesnt connect to the internet, its just say "Starting Connection"... any workaround? :) tnx
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> ketsugi: no he knows that, X would go crazy when he was playing things
[09:40] <Jucato> mulder: you need to enable multiverse. sent you the link
[09:41] <mulder> ok I am going to try
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> i really like Moodle, it's pretty powerful but it doesn't do RSS
[09:41] <Jucato> um... anyone here encountered any problems with building the search index in KDE Help Center, even after installing htdig and editing a typo in one of the scripts?
[09:42] <thyko> how do i just install kubuntu from the boot prompt? without having to go to the live cd desktop first?
[09:42] <Jucato> thyko: if you downloaded the Live CD, you can't... afaik
[09:42] <emonkey> thyko, try the alternate CD
[09:42] <thyko> ok
[09:42] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: what's Moodle?
[09:42] <emonkey> an e-learning Server
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> thyko: you could also try the safe mode, i forget what it's called
[09:42] <Jucato> ah
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: kinda like blackboard, CNET etc
[09:43] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: from the Live CD?
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: no it's an open source program used by my school for a webpage for a protein folding project
[09:43] <Jucato> Safe graphics mode, afaik, doesn't go to the CLI in the Live CD
[09:43] <mulder> Jucato (and the others) I don't know how to add the multiverse thingy, even by looking at the guide...I am using Kubuntu and things aren't the same. Sorry!
[09:43] <Jucato> er.. I was referring to the safe mode you mentioned :)
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: that is what i meant
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry i was confused
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> it's almost 3 here
[09:44] <edge888> hi! I just upgraded my Kubuntu to Edgy Eft, however, my frostwire doesnt connect to the internet, its just say "Starting Connection"... any workaround? :) tnx
[09:44] <pielgrzym> can't find the power management (acpi) options - in dapper it used to be in a separate menu
[09:44] <Jucato> open source course management software?
[09:44] <mulder> I opened adept...manage repositories..but after that I am lost!
[09:44] <pielgrzym> If I totally disable acpi will the computer work ok?
[09:44] <stefan__> hi all
[09:45] <Jucato> mulder: ok look for the line with "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"
[09:45] <pielgrzym> I mean will it be able to shut down normally :)
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: yup, it's from Australia
[09:45] <Jucato> ah
[09:45] <mulder> well all my components show main restricted
[09:46] <Jucato> mulder:  look for the line I just told you
[09:46] <Jucato> substituting "xx" for your locale (gb, us, uk, au, etc)
[09:46] <mulder> yes I understand that Jucato, but instead of universe it is main restricted
[09:47] <Jucato> mulder: scroll down a bit more
[09:47] <mulder> it is greyed out
[09:47] <Jucato> mulder: ok, right-click and select Enable
[09:47] <intelikey> sed 's/main restricted/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list > ~/sources.list
[09:47] <mulder> only deb, not deb-src
[09:47] <Jucato> mulder: yes
[09:48] <Jucato> intelikey: quick fix, but he won't learn, right?
[09:48] <mulder> still greyed out :-(
[09:48] <intelikey> you can look at the new copy in your home and if it suits you copy it to /etc/apt.
[09:48] <intelikey> Jucato idk ?    will he ?
[09:48] <Jucato> mulder: are you sure? even after right-clicking and selecting enable?
[09:48] <mulder> yes still greyed out, but I can change the lines it seems
[09:49] <Jucato> mulder: hm.. that would be strange.... works fine here
[09:49] <Jucato> what do you mean by you can "change the lines"?
[09:49] <mulder> the greyed out deb shows universe, unlike the non greyed out showing main restricted
[09:50] <mulder> well If i click twice on universe, I can write something else for instance
[09:50] <Jucato> mulder: ah ok. then add the word "multiverse" to that
[09:50] <pacman> can anyone help me with my 3d accelerator
[09:50] <Jucato> so that it would be "universe multiverse"
[09:50] <mulder> after or before universe?
[09:50] <Jucato> mulder: do not deletet "universe"
[09:50] <mulder> ah ok
[09:51] <mulder> done
[09:51] <intelikey> order is not important there mulder
[09:51] <mulder> shall I save and close?
[09:51] <Jucato> mulder: try to Enable it again...
[09:51] <mulder> it is enabled but still greyed out
[09:52] <intelikey> apply
[09:52] <Jucato> ah ok.. click on Apply, then Close
[09:52] <Jucato> then at the top, click on Fetch Updates
[09:52] <mulder> yes now it is in black :-)
[09:52] <Jucato> I swear! Adept needs a total makeover!
[09:52] <Jucato> mulder: click on Fetch Updates, once it finishes, you can look for and install libxine-extracodecs
[09:53] <mulder> it is downloading suff now :-)
[09:53] <Jucato> and that is how you edit your sources.list using Adept
[09:54] <intelikey> i like sed better  :)
[09:56] <intelikey> ???
[09:56] <Jucato> nvm
[09:59] <intelikey> oh i got it.  just wondered why.... ?
[09:59] <mulder> ok now it works...but sound is gone! Arghhhh
[10:00] <Jucato> O_O
[10:00] <mulder> trying to configure the sound...alas
[10:02] <mulder> I don't know...jeez. Maybe vlc will work
[10:07] <Emess> hey flaccid i got it to go :D
[10:07] <Emess> edgy is sexy!
[10:09] <mulder> it is indeed, but has a very bad temper sometimes! Like a red-haired girlfriend!
[10:10] <Jucato> like scully?
[10:10] <Emess> lol, it took me a while but it works now, actually the onyl problem i ah was acpi,b ut that took 11 hours to fix
[10:10] <Emess> now to figure out why beryl wont load
[10:12] <mulder> scully is wonderful, sexy and smart...well you can say the same about Edgy no?
[10:12] <Jucato> she's also fickle at times
[10:12] <Emess> i lvoed the boot screen, although i ahd to restore my gui settings
[10:12] <mulder> nobody is perfect, but at least she has the nose for investigating :-)
[10:12] <Jucato> edgy makes you investigate it :)
[10:13] <mulder> still no sound with my movies :-(
[10:13] <Emess> my little sister (shes 8) was like "ooooh gimme that, my one is ugly!"
[10:13] <Emess> she should be fine with dapper tho, it isnt ugly at all
[10:13] <mulder> next kubuntu should be called Sweet Sister then :-)
[10:13] <Emess> lol, she sin ubuntu heaven, untuil last weeks he has Xandros 3 OCE
[10:13] <Jucato> that will have to wait till we get to "S"
[10:13] <Jucato> and that implies that "Sister" is an animal :P
[10:13] <Emess> i gave her a ubuntu disk and she partitioned and sintalled it ehrself lol
[10:14] <mulder> Flying Formula?
[10:14] <Jucato> Feisty Fawn
[10:14] <mulder> yeah I know...heard that ;-)
[10:14] <Emess> not necessarily, tehre was no c, it went breezy then dapper, and what about hoary and warty?
[10:14] <Jucato> Emess: omg! an 8 year old partitioning by herself?
[10:14] <Jucato> Emess: they started going alphabetical with Dapper
[10:14] <mulder> wait till you get to Hairy Harty!
[10:14] <Emess> yeah, why not? i partitioned mandrake on by first nix box when i was 7
[10:14] <Jucato> no more "H"
[10:14] <Emess> ah ok
[10:15] <intelikey> Jucato ????  warty hoary breezy dapper edgy     what is the order there ????
[10:15] <Emess> me waits for Mangey monkey
[10:15] <Jucato> lol! I never even heard about partitioning until I was. um... 17?
[10:15] <Emess> or Sexy Snakes
[10:15] <Jucato> intelikey: they decided to start going alphabetical in Dapper
[10:15] <Jucato> Dapper, Edgy, Feisty
[10:15] <intelikey> really ?
[10:15] <Jucato> there will be no G and H though
[10:15] <SHRIKEE> H can be Horny :)
[10:16] <intelikey> no goat or horse ?
[10:16] <Jucato> Grumpy Groundhog was the codename for the testing stuff, iirc
[10:16] <Jucato> and we already had Hoary Hedgehog
[10:16] <SHRIKEE> ...
[10:17] <mulder> Grumpy Granny could have been better
[10:17] <Jucato> you're implying that Granny is an animal :P
[10:17] <Jucato> although Grumpy Gopher might have been more appropriate...
[10:18] <intelikey> this is Krazy.  mc displays correctly in the "fixed consoles" but not in others, while elinks does the oppisite.....
[10:19] <Emess> mc = midnight commander?
[10:19] <mulder> I still don't have the sound in neither K nor Vlc!
[10:19] <intelikey> Emess yes
[10:20] <Emess> havent used that ina  while
[10:20] <mulder> sometimes when the sound system restart, it does so for ages...
[10:20] <Emess> mulder: restart alsa?
[10:20] <intelikey> fixed consoles --- /etc/rcS.d/S90console-screen.sh
[10:20] <Jucato> mulder: where do you have sounds then?
[10:21] <equipped> allo all
[10:21] <intelikey> hola
[10:21] <Kiongku> aloha
[10:21] <equipped> i'm brand new to kubuntu and loving it
[10:21] <intelikey> you'll get over that
[10:22] <equipped> wow that's positive?
[10:22] <intelikey> yeah...
[10:22] <intelikey> :)
[10:23] <equipped> can i ask some overasked questions im sure?
[10:23] <mulder> ok I am using a laptop...it has intel hda onboard, but I am using my audigy 2 zs card inserted in the pci slot. Porblem I can get the sound from the audigy2 only from the intel. But now I can't hear the sound coming from the players!
[10:23] <intelikey> computyus say "programmer that know computer, have strange sex life"
[10:25] <Jucato> ... and that, dear Kubuntu users, is intelikey's (futile) attempt at humor...
[10:25] <mulder> amarok plays the music fine, but only using the intel sound!
[10:25] <intelikey> ditto jucato
[10:26] <Marius_> hi
[10:26] <Marius_> anyone here who can help me.... i just updated from dapper and my OS is no more working
[10:27] <seletz> Marius_: if you want anyone to help you, you should probably define "not more working" more accurately ;)
[10:27] <ccomp5950> marious_: What do you mean, not working?  Little more detail needed.  What does it stop working on, what step?...do you get to login?
[10:28] <Marius_> well is not booting into x
[10:28] <seletz> Morning, btw x_X
[10:28] <Marius_> it's checking the filesystem
[10:28] <drumline_> Marius_: after the file sys checks, then what?
[10:28] <seletz> let it check, dont interrupt, dond switch off your computer ;)
[10:28] <Marius_> it says something like "last mount time is after the current time"
[10:29] <seletz> s/dond/don't/
[10:29] <seletz> Marius_: The filesystem is checked every xx times it is mounted per default.
[10:29] <seletz> Marius_: Thats normal.
[10:29] <Marius_> well it is somehow stuck in that process
[10:30] <drumline_> Marius_: check this article: http://desktoplinux.com/news/NS3291004537.html
[10:30] <intelikey> that's normal seletz  ???
[10:30] <drumline_> Marius_: if that's it, then follow the directions that Steve gives on the site.
[10:30] <Jucato> on ext3, the filesystem is checked after 30 mounts
[10:30] <ccomp5950> What happened, you didn't setup your time properly when you installed this time resulting in a time that was prior to your dapper system time.  Right now you have a couple choices:  I would let it run over night but if it's not doing anything change your BIOS time to a time say next month.
[10:31] <Marius_> i am unable to access  kubuntuforums.net
[10:31] <dude_> jucato!
[10:31] <seletz> intelikey: the check is, but it getting struck is not ;)
[10:31] <Jucato> hi dude_
[10:31] <intelikey> seletz no the time stamp.   look at the error
[10:32] <Marius_> so what is the site whith steve's directions
[10:32] <intelikey> ***<Marius_> it says something like "last mount time is after the current time"***
[10:32] <dude_> jucato: what the difference between alternate from desktop?
[10:32] <dude_> jucato: whats the difference between alternate from desktop?
[10:33] <Jucato> dude_: no need to repeat :P
[10:33] <dude_> sorry
[10:33] <dude_> i forgot the "s" : )
[10:33] <Jucato> Desktop CD = Live CD with GUI installer (very basic options only). Alternate Install CD = text based installer with more options
[10:34] <Marius_> how about the dvd version?
[10:34] <dude_> jucato: ohh ok tnx
[10:36] <solar_ant> hey all
[10:37] <drumline_> Marius_: i gave you the link above: http://desktoplinux.com/news/NS3291004537.html
[10:37] <Marius_> ok
[10:37] <Marius_> thank you verry much
[10:38] <dude_> jucato: have you tried xubuntu?
[10:39] <Z_God> I'm trying to install edgy, but I get "There is no basefilesystem" on the partition screen
[10:39] <Jucato> dude_: yes for a short while only
[10:39] <Z_God> is this a bug or something like that?
[10:39] <Z_God> I selected a 20 GB partition for /
[10:39] <dude_> jucato: why?
[10:39] <Jucato> dude_: because I love KDE :P
[10:40] <dude_> jucato: :) y a....
[10:40] <Jucato> dude_: but seriously. it was fast, but a bit too gimped for my taste.
[10:40] <intelikey> Z_God probably a bug in your choice of file systems.
[10:40] <dude_> jucato: i want to try beryl, but im still afraid hehehe
[10:40] <Jucato> me to
[10:40] <Jucato> s/to/too
[10:40] <mulder> ok guys something else happened here...when I open my applications, I am asked for a password, but then it runs as root!
[10:41] <intelikey> and nicks...
[10:41] <dude_> ./takot/ako
[10:41] <Jucato> lol
[10:41] <dude_> :)
[10:41] <Jucato> mulder: all apps?
[10:41] <Z_God> ...
[10:42] <Z_God> I'll just download the alternate cd
[10:42] <mulder> well I try adept now, and it says run as root
[10:42] <intelikey> Z linux doesn't live in ntfs space without scba gear
[10:42] <dude_> jucato: i can add xubuntu with my current system right?
[10:42] <Z_God> ??
[10:43] <Jucato> dude_: yes
[10:43] <intelikey> what have you selected as the root partition ?
[10:43] <intelikey> you are not giving us much to work with
[10:43] <dude_> jucato : apt-get install xubuntu?
[10:43] <Z_God> /dev/hde5 it's what's already my current kubuntu root partition
[10:43] <Jucato> mulder: that's normal
[10:44] <mulder> I am getting confused myself. But yes it looks normal, because I use the password I put
[10:44] <Jucato> dude_: I would suggest "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install -R xubuntu-desktop"
[10:44] <intelikey> ok and you set it to format that
[10:44] <Z_God> yep
[10:44] <mulder> Chickies will get teeth before I start using Linux like a pro!
[10:44] <intelikey> and to mount it as /
[10:44] <Jucato> dude_: so that you can "sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop" easily later
[10:44] <Z_God> yep
[10:44] <dude_> jucato: ok copy, tnx
[10:45] <intelikey> then you may have a bug.  yes.
[10:46] <mulder> Where you guys are based anyway for support?
[10:46] <Z_God> downloading the alternate iso at 11 MB/s now :)
[10:46] <Emess> is there a way to change the icon for kmenu?
[10:46] <Jucato> mulder: only ding this for free, in my spare time
[10:46] <Jucato> s/ding/doing
[10:46] <Emess> Z_God: for that speed...can i be your best friend?
[10:47] <Z_God> lol :P
[10:47] <mulder> That is kind for you to do it for free...help newcomers like myself. I suppose you aren't married? :-)
[10:47] <Jucato> lol no
[10:47] <intelikey> mulder i don't think anyone talking in the last hour is any part of the ubntun team.....
[10:47] <Jucato> Emess: Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958
[10:47] <dude_> jucato: what is this xubuntu 6.10?
[10:47] <Jucato> dude_: it's Xubuntu Edgy
[10:47] <mulder> well that is why I keep Ubuntu/K because of the community
[10:47] <Z_God> >Emess burning takes a while though :S
[10:48] <dude_> ok
[10:48] <mulder> great people who can help :-)
[10:49] <sreng> youpi :)
[10:49] <sreng> Beryl rox
[10:49] <mulder> what is Beryl?
[10:49] <Jucato> !beryl | mulder
[10:49] <ubotu> mulder: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[10:49] <sreng> 3D effects for the desktop
[10:49] <KooL4444> my beryl crashes when i go to shutdown
[10:50] <sreng> wow :) cool script
[10:50] <dude_> jucato: i can't use my foot pedal
[10:50] <Jucato> O_o
[10:50] <sreng> !master | mulder
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about master - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <sreng> !man | mulder
[10:50] <ubotu> mulder: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:51] <intelikey> !bot
[10:51] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:51] <mulder> I am lost now thanks fellas!
[10:52] <sreng> hehe
[10:52] <sreng> type "beryl" in youtube and you will see
[10:52] <intelikey> mulder that second botsnack was just sreng learning how to play with ubotu
[10:52] <sreng> euh
[10:52] <mulder> argh!
[10:53] <mulder> I am looking at some screenshot, lovely and sexy like scully!
[10:53] <sreng> easy..
[10:53] <intelikey> !botsnack ?
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsnack ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <Emess> my burner can do a full 4gig dvd in 2.30 minutes :D
[10:53] <Emess> my burner + your bandwidht = awesome, Z_God
[10:53] <Z_God> heh, yeah
[10:54] <Z_God> it's just a local mirror though ;)
[10:54] <Emess> actually, i live about 10 minutes drive fromt eh australian ubuntu mirror, its owned by teh UWA computing club lol
[10:54] <Emess> as it says on their door "ubuntu on tap"
[10:54] <mulder> so many people have the icons displayed like widgets or something. The stuff that windowblinds uses...how can you do that?
[10:55] <Z_God> heh, neat
[10:55] <Z_God> I'm on a campus myself, the ftp here just mirrors ubuntu too
[10:55] <Z_God> haven't really checked, but hopefully they've got the apt pool too :)
[10:56] <mulder> so how can I make beryl work then?
[10:57] <intelikey> !glx
[10:57] <mulder> headaches...headaches!
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <intelikey> !xgl
[10:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:57] <drumline_> !ltsp
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ltsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <dude_> jucato: after the installation of xubuntu? does it affect my grub?
[10:58] <Jucato> no.
[10:58] <Jucato> you can choose to log into Xfce or KDE from the login screen, under the Sessions menu
[10:58] <solar_ant> hey all
[10:58] <solar_ant> whats the md5sum for kubuntu 6.10 cd
[10:58] <dude_> jucato: ok, copy, tnx
[10:58] <solar_ant> does nayone know ehre to find it
[10:59] <solar_ant> i just downloaded the cd and hae trouble installing
[10:59] <solar_ant> so want to check
[10:59] <intelikey> solar_ant should be on the site
[10:59] <solar_ant> intelikey:  it aint
[10:59] <solar_ant> anyway when i try to boot form the cd or even attempt media check
[10:59] <solar_ant> the blue screen appear for some time with kubuntu and bar scrolling down
[10:59] <solar_ant> left and right
[11:00] <solar_ant> and then it blanks
[11:00] <solar_ant> and
[11:00] <solar_ant> it says "hds error huh ? must exit with 0 " or something crazy like tha
[11:00] <solar_ant> what do i do ???????/
[11:00] <mulder> so it seems you nea big graphic card to run beryl!
[11:00] <intelikey> mulder yep
[11:01] <Jucato> mulder: not really big, just needs to be good enough
[11:01] <solar_ant> anyone ???
[11:02] <sreng> mulder: I run it on my IBM x31 Laptop
[11:03] <sreng> mulder: it has no Big gfx card
[11:03] <sreng> mulder: ATI mobility M16 ~ RADEON 9000
[11:03] <mulder> mine is an atix1400 ati
[11:03] <sreng> mulder: and it runs SMOOTHLY :D
[11:03] <mulder> 1280x800 laptop
[11:03] <sreng> hum
[11:03] <sreng> is it an old laptop ?
[11:03] <Jucato> mulder: the important thing is you need 3d hardware acceleration
[11:04] <mulder> duo core intel
[11:04] <Jucato> ooh that's good
[11:04] <mulder> few months old
[11:04] <sreng> oh yeah then you are good i think
[11:04] <sreng> mine is like 2 years old
[11:04] <sreng> ;)
[11:04] <mulder> glxinfo |grep -i direct is what I did
[11:04] <mulder> and it says no direct rendering
[11:04] <sreng> edgy ?
[11:04] <sreng> edgy eft ?
[11:04] <Jucato> well, you'd need to install the proprietary driver for it to get direct rendering going
[11:05] <mulder> yes edgy
[11:05] <mulder> I guess I have them
[11:05] <Jucato> you "guess"?
[11:05] <mulder> where can I check I have them then?
[11:05] <Jucato> if you didn't install them, they won't be there :)
[11:05] <mulder> well I am new to Linux, and a friend of mine helped with some stuff
[11:06] <Jucato> well I'm guessing if you don't have direct rendering on, then it's not installed
[11:06] <mulder> I didn't have 1280x800 running, so we have to install them to have that reso working
[11:06] <mulder> ok how can I check?
[11:06] <intelikey> solar_ant did you even look before you said the md5's are not on the site ???    http://planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu/releases/edgy/
[11:07] <sreng> mulder: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX
[11:07] <Ash-Fox> Is there anything that can play divx3 movies?
[11:08] <Gecko> Ash-Fox: try mplayer
[11:08] <intelikey> !divx3
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about divx3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <Gecko> Ash-Fox: with the appropriate codec pack
[11:09] <mulder> As of october 2006, AIGLX should work out of the box in edgy, provided your graphics card supports it!
[11:09] <Ash-Fox> Gecko, mplayer doesn't proccess this :P
[11:09] <mulder> how can I check then?
[11:09] <Gecko> Ash-Fox: check the mplayer website for an alternative codec pack then
[11:10] <sreng> mulder: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/applications/beryl
[11:11] <sreng> mulder: i think you have to change some of your xorg.conf
[11:11] <mulder> ah some french reading...!
[11:11] <mefisto__> I have 2 soundcards, kmix almost always starts with the wrong soundcard. How can I specify which card it should control by default?
[11:13] <sreng> mulder: well i also gave you an english howto to install beryl
[11:14] <mulder> don't worry I can read french no problems :-)
[11:16] <intelikey> !sound
[11:16] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:17] <mefisto__> I've solved my sound problems, it's the kmix interface that's driving me nuts now
[11:19] <harmental> hi everybody...
[11:19] <Z_God> the alternate cd seems to be working :)
[11:19] <harmental> has anybody tried to upgrade from dapper to edgy without a clean install? (ie. as indicated in kubuntu site)
[11:20] <intelikey> harmental several
[11:20] <harmental> any succes?
[11:21] <intelikey> not a very high percentage
[11:21] <intelikey> in school you wouldn't want that mark....
[11:21] <harmental> mmm
[11:21] <intelikey> but some yes.
[11:23] <mefisto__> can k3b create audio CDs with no gaps between tracks?
[11:25] <mulder> ok guys, have to go for a while. Will be back. Thanks for your help Jucato and Intel, and the others.
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: i think so
[11:29] <mefisto__> I thought I'd made one, but perhaps kaffeine can't play it without a slight pause between tracks
[11:37] <Admiral_Chicago> did you try using a CD player?
[11:38] <mefisto__> I don't actually own one any more
[11:38] <mefisto__> amarok plays cds right?
[11:41] <pielgrzym> how to make glxgears show fps?
[11:42] <Jucato> pielgrzym: glxgears -printfps
[11:42] <pielgrzym> Jucato: thanks :) is this a good score for R9200: 6163 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1232.585 FPS ?
[11:43] <Jucato> dunno.. sorry :(
[11:43] <pielgrzym> :)
[11:44] <wombat_> help, I've done something to my vid card drivers and am now stuck at 640x480 res
[11:46] <wombat_> I thought I had undone everything I did before it stuffed up but I'm still having problems
[11:47] <zkhalis> salut je connais rien a kubuntu et linux en general est ce que quelqu'un peut m'aider j'aimerais couter la radio j'ai essay kaffeine et amarok sa ne marche pas :(
[11:47] <Jucato> !fr | zkhalis
[11:47] <ubotu> zkhalis: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:48] <mefisto__> what did you do that you have undone, wombat_?
[11:49] <zkhalis> merci :)
[11:49] <Kiongku> xorg.conf?
[11:50] <wombat_> mefisto:I tried to update the drivers for my vid card using Adept Manager and changed the driver selection in the system/moniter and display section
[11:51] <wombat_> mefisto: I then hit the test button and got a screen that looked like no channel on an old television, all black and white dots and an x for a cursor.
[11:51] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: yes
[11:52] <mefisto__> ok, I'm far from an expert, but I found changing video settings is best done by changing one setting at a time (in the display section) and then restarting the x server (log out, then restart x from menu)
[11:52] <brosioz> ehy a repository with w32codecs for my edgy ?
[11:52] <Admiral_Chicago> brosioz: multiverse iirc
[11:52] <Jucato> !w32codecs | brosioz
[11:53] <ubotu> brosioz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:53] <wombat_> mefisto: I then hit the reset button on the computer because I couldn't work out how to get out of that screen, the computer rebooted and I had 640x480 res
[11:53] <Jucato> brosioz: that first link
[11:53] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: multiverse doesn't have w32codecs
[11:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: which one does?
[11:53] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: none
[11:53] <brosioz> thx
[11:53] <Jucato> you either use PLF or download it from the link in the RestrictedFormats page
[11:53] <mefisto__> wombat_: go to the hardware tab and see if it can detect your vid card
[11:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: really?
[11:54] <brosioz> Jucato: i want a repository not install a deb packages
[11:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i see
[11:54] <wombat_> mefisto: where's the hardware tab?
[11:54] <Jucato> brosioz: well, the only repository that has that is the PLF repos, but I think they don't support Edgy
[11:55] <brosioz> a non official rep
[11:55] <Admiral_Chicago> brosioz: "This package is not available from the Ubuntu repositories due to licensing and legal restrictions."
[11:55] <brosioz> A NON OFFICIAL REP
[11:55] <Jucato> brosioz: like I said, PLF is down
[11:56] <Jucato> brosioz: any reason why you don't want the deb?
[11:56] <brosioz> PLF ?
[11:56] <brosioz> what's that ?
[11:56] <Jucato> PLF = freecontrib repository
[11:56] <Jucato> that's the unofficial repo that you're looking for
[11:56] <Jucato> !plf
[11:56] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[11:56] <Jucato> "PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer"
[11:57] <mefisto__> wombat_: system settings > display 3rd tab from left
[11:57] <Jucato> brosioz: any reason why you don't want to just download the deb?
[11:57] <brosioz> but is still down ?
[11:57] <Jucato> brosioz: yes
[11:58] <brosioz> Jucato: i prefer a repository cause if there is an update i don't want to reinstall a package each time
[11:58] <Jucato> brosioz: there is rarely any update for the w32codecs. very rare
[11:58] <Jucato> brosioz: libxine-extracodecs, on the other hand, is in multiverse
[12:01] <rmi> hi all...what repositories should I use to find and install xine?
[12:01] <wombat_> mefisto: yeah it is detecting it as nv. it's set to what was initially installed when I installed kubuntu. It will detect my card as an NVIDIA GeForce4(generic) if I go into configure.
[12:01] <brosioz> i don't remember
[12:01] <brosioz> but there is also
[12:01] <brosioz> an official repository
[12:01] <brosioz> for realmedia ?
[12:02] <Jucato> !real
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <Jucato> !realplayer
[12:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:02] <Jucato> rmi: you mean libxine-extracodecs? it's in multiverse
[12:02] <mefisto__> wombat_: that's it, let it find your specific card in configure, then exit back to the desktop, log out, restart x, and THEN go back to try changing your display settings
[12:03] <wombat_> ok, I'll try but I'm pretty sure that's what I did
[12:04] <robert_> who builds kde 3.5.5's packages?
[12:04] <rmi> ok thx
[12:04] <mefisto__> sorry wombat_ that's all I can suggest. I'm very new to this, but that's how I got my video settings sorted out
[12:04] <robert_> well, whoever does needs to fix ksmserver
[12:04] <robert_> (it's crashed on me 3x today)
[12:05] <brosioz> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy  main
[12:05] <brosioz> like this
[12:05] <brosioz> dude
[12:05] <exclude> during the upgrade to edgy, kubuntu wrote some weird stuff in my /etc/fstab
[12:05] <brosioz> but i get wrong
[12:05] <Jucato> brosioz: you mean the commercial repos? doesn't exist yet for Edgy, I'm afraid
[12:05] <Jucato> exclude: that UUID stuff is normal
[12:06] <exclude> now my swap is no longer mounted on reboot!
[12:06] <mattia> we
[12:06] <mattia> hi to all
[12:06] <exclude> Jucato: right, but I have no clue how to fix my swap issues then :)
[12:06] <mattia> I can not install firefox
[12:06] <mattia> can some one  help me
[12:06] <mattia> ???
[12:06] <brosioz> dude exists...
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Good Morning all , it's darn early here
[12:06] <Jucato> exclude: how come?
[12:07] <exclude> Jucato: where can I find more details about the UUID stuff then? How do I know what that UUID refers to?
[12:07] <Jucato> brosioz: sorry let me rephrase, it does exist, but is empty
[12:07] <mefisto__> mattia: did you try installing thru adept?
[12:07] <exclude> Jucato: I don't really know, I just had a very hard crash, because of "out of memory" issues. Had to pull the power plug and all :(
[12:07] <Jucato> :(
[12:08] <brosioz> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[12:08] <brosioz> dude now work
[12:08] <brosioz> s
[12:08] <exclude> Jucato: I did find out that swap wasn't initialised. lemme check the bootlog
[12:08] <brosioz> :D
[12:10] <weedar> to prevent firefox from constantly crashing I have to set the shell variable XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS to 1, how do I do this for all users always. .bashrc?
[12:10] <exclude> Jucato: I got it working this session by issueing mkswap ... and swapon. But I'd prefer ubuntu to boot and initialise swap itself :)
[12:11] <Jucato> hm... I'm not really sure why it isn't loading. I'll show you my fstab line for swap
[12:11] <exclude> Jucato:
[12:11] <exclude> # /dev/hda5 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
[12:11] <exclude> UUID=d5ca5f96-fce4-457c-adaf-c467cf50acc8 none swap sw 0 0
[12:11] <Admiral_Chicago> exclude: are you sure fstab is correct
[12:11] <esaym> easy way to get firefox: http://getswiftfox.com/installer.htm
[12:11] <hammer> hi
[12:11] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm that seems...complicated
[12:11] <Jucato> UUID=dc22d891-ecc4-4c44-80ee-90d0c4e8b61d none            swap    sw              0       0
[12:11] <exclude> Admiral_Chicago: no. But I never touched it :)
[12:12] <hammer> ho do i format my flash mp3 player?
[12:12] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: it's the default for edgy
[12:12] <hammer> *how
[12:12] <exclude> Admiral_Chicago: and because of the UUID, I cannot fix it. I have no clue what that is.
[12:12] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: Edgy seems to be doing a lot of new stuff but i guess that was the point
[12:12] <Jucato> yes
[12:12] <Jucato> exclude: you upgraded right?
[12:13] <Admiral_Chicago> exclude: personally, i'd change the fstab back to smoething readably
[12:13] <Jucato> er exclude....
[12:13] <Jucato> do you see #comments  in your fstab?
[12:13] <Jucato> the ones immediately above the UUID lines?
[12:13] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i got those too
[12:14] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: do you suggest i keep them as is. i can't read them and it looks awful
[12:14] <exclude> Jucato: sorry, was on my terminal 1 :)
[12:14] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: you're not supposed to read them in the first place :)
[12:14] <wombat_> No luck mefisto..... I'll keep playing
[12:14] <exclude> Jucato: see above, I pasted the Comment with it.
[12:14] <exclude> but I found "sudo blkid " Admiral_Chicago, Jucato
[12:14] <Jucato> exclude: so that UUID is for your /dev/hda5
[12:15] <mefisto__> wombat_: did you uninstall the new driver?
[12:15] <exclude> exclude: according to blkid it is not!
[12:15] <Admiral_Chicago> exclude: vhat does that do?
[12:16] <exclude> Admiral_Chicago: that command shows a list with the UUIDs, apparently they are a new way of identifying hdds
[12:16] <exclude> http://enterprise.linux.com/comments.pl?sid=37323&op=&threshold=0&commentsort=0&mode=thread&tid=23&tid=47&tid=29&pid=91642
[12:16] <Admiral_Chicago> exclude: first i heard of it and i follow linux news pretty closely
[12:16] <Jucato> exclude: thanks for the command
[12:17] <exclude> Admiral_Chicago: me too. And I am not very happy with hearing that.
[12:17] <Jucato> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[12:17] <Admiral_Chicago> exclude: i can see the advantage
[12:17] <Jucato> exclude: if that's so, try changing the UUID to match your swap partition
[12:17] <exclude> me too. Its just so.... different :9
[12:17] <exclude> Jucato: already did that, and it solves the issue
[12:18] <rmi> what's the safest way to install nvidia drivers in a kubuntu based laptop?
[12:18] <exclude> Jucato: leaves me wondering how the F the update Fsked up so bad by giving my swap a broken UUID,
[12:18] <exclude> :)
[12:18] <wombat_> yeah
[12:18] <Jucato> exclude: I wouldn't know... :(
[12:19] <exclude> me neither, but, well, it works now, my itch is scrathced.
[12:19] <exclude>  :)
[12:19] <mefisto__> wombat_: are there any backup copies of xorg.conf?
[12:20] <wombat_> mefisto:um, no idea, I've had kubuntu on this machine for 2 days
[12:20] <wombat_> and have been using linux for just as long
[12:20] <mefisto__> wombat_: hey, me too
[12:20] <Jucato> exclude: you don't need sudo to run blkid
[12:21] <Admiral_Chicago> !nvidia > rmi:
[12:21] <exclude> Jucato: ah, that post mentioned it being in /sbin so I assumed that.
[12:21] <Jucato> :)
[12:21] <mefisto__> wombat_: if you do locate xorg.conf in a terminal window, it will find it for you. you can then look in that directory for other files that look like they might be backup copies
[12:22] <Jucato> !UUID | exclude Admiral_Chicago
[12:22] <ubotu> exclude Admiral_Chicago: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid"
[12:23] <exclude> thanks.
[12:23] <Jucato> exclude: thanks for the tip :)
[12:23] <Jucato> if I could put acknowledgements there, I would put your name :)
[12:23] <exclude> Jucato: mebby add the link  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LibAtaForAtaDisks to that?
[12:23] <Jucato> exclude: nah. not for kids stuff :P
[12:23] <exclude> hehe
[12:24] <Admiral_Chicago> good to know
[12:24] <Jucato> I'll consider it though...
[12:24] <wombat_> mefisto: where's it supposed to be?
[12:24] <Jucato> exclude: you can sleep well knowing that your little tip has the potential to help a lot of users :)
[12:24] <exclude> Jucato: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223182 is a good one too
[12:24] <mefisto__> I don't know yet, but it's in a directory called X11 (not x11)
[12:25] <mefisto__> wombat_: /etc/X11 I think
[12:25] <mefisto__> if I'm wrong, can someone correct me!!!
[12:26] <exclude> mefisto__: that is correct.
[12:26] <Jucato>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:27] <Jucato> good luck!
[12:29] <Admiral_Chicago> reboots...pshh
[12:29] <Admiral_Chicago> i never turn off my computer
[12:32] <wombat_> mefisto: I've found the backup, do you know how to change it to the original?
[12:33] <berkes> w00t :)
[12:33] <berkes> my fstab UUID change survived the reboot+.
[12:34] <mefisto__> copy your current one as xorg.conf.backup or something like that, then rename the backup to xorg.conf. But if it doesn't work you may not be able to start the desktop, so make sure you can find your way back in a terminal window so you can restore the current xorg.conf
[12:35] <wombat_> mefisto: I don't have privelidges to save the file
[12:37] <alexicon> hiya im having issues with nvidia-glx
[12:37] <_deb_> wombat_: try renaming it as root used. use sudo .
[12:37] <alexicon> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:37] <alexicon> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[12:37] <alexicon> when i try to change driver to nvidia from nv it wont even start x
[12:38] <alexicon> Linux ff8k 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:38] <mefisto__> wombat_: or if you want to do it with conqueror, run command (from the menu) and in options, as different user
[12:38] <alexicon> doesnt like my gentoo xorg.conf file either
[12:38] <mefisto__> wombat_: the command is simply konqueror
[12:39] <mattia> hi to all
[12:39] <Sharketor> how can I set firefox as default browser????
[12:40] <Sharketor> when I click on a link, konqueror starts
[12:40] <mattia> where can I find a library for ubuntu libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[12:40] <mattia> ??
[12:40] <wombat_> what's the command to rename a file?
[12:41] <mefisto__> Sharketor: in system settings > kde components
[12:42] <berkes> hmm. I love "orphaner", why is that not part of kubuntu by default?
[12:42] <berkes> package is deborphan btw-
[12:42] <Sharketor> thanks
[12:43] <mefisto__> berkes: what is it?
[12:43] <Sharketor> another question
[12:43] <berkes> after my upgrade to edgy that tool helped me remove 77 stale packages, nearly 50 megabites of unused apps
[12:43] <Adam_> there are some edgy dvd images available. What differs them from the regular cd isos?
[12:43] <berkes> mefisto__: its a tool to help you clean up and/or identify unused (orphaned) packages.
[12:43] <Sharketor> I can't use keyboard volume key to set system volum. Why?
[12:45] <berkes> mefisto__: say you tried some package with all sorts of weird dependencies, like e.g. beagle. But later on decide you no longer need beagle.
[12:45] <Adam_> does the dvd version include all the repos and that's all?
[12:45] <berkes> simple apt-get remove beagle will leave you with mono, all sorts of gtk apps and unused lib* packages.
[12:46] <berkes> deborphan allows you to remove all these unused dependencies.
[12:47] <berkes> mefisto__: you can compare it a little with norton cleansweep for linux :)
[12:47] <mefisto__> Sharketor: in system settings > regional & accessibility > keyboard layouts, switch on keyboard layouts and try finding your keyboard in the list. Then you can try setting up keyboard shortcuts in the keyboard shortcuts section
[12:47] <rmi> how can I add linux-headers from apt-get?
[12:48] <pupeno__> When trying to create an encrypted file system with "cryptsetup -y create crypt /dev/hda3" I get the error: "Command failed: Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.07 (2006-05-11)(compat) and kernel driver", any ideas ? is cryptoloop broken in Edgy ?
[12:49] <pupeno__> berkes, mefisto__: aptitude also does automatic removal of unneeded dependencies.
[12:49] <mefisto__> berkes: I think I installed that but was too scared to remove anything
[12:49] <berkes> pupeno__: ah, I did not know that,
[12:50] <berkes> rmi "apt-get linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[12:51] <berkes> rmi: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` obviously
[12:53] <mefisto__> how do you get amarok to play a cd?
[12:56] <berkes> mefisto__: its the third entry in "file" menu
[12:56] <teledyn_> pupeno__: sounds like libdevmapper version is wrong
[12:56] <pupeno__> teledyn_: indeed. Which would mean cryptsetup is broken in Edgy.
[12:56] <teledyn_> pupeno__: and/or the user space tools are not compatible with the version of the kernel module you're using
[12:56] <mefisto__> ok I see it now, but it'd dimmed out for some reason
[12:56] <berkes> mefisto__: but there is a commandline parameter for that too, and you can even use DCOP, if you're hardcore :)
[12:57] <pupeno__> teledyn_: do you know how to see the different versions of the different components ?
[12:57] <teledyn_> pupeno__: did you compile the user space tools yourself, or are they ubuntu's?
[12:57] <pupeno__> teledyn_: ubuntu's (edgy).
[12:57] <teledyn_> pupeno__: what package is cryptsetup part of?
[12:57] <pupeno__> teledyn_: cryptsetup.
[12:57] <berkes> mefisto__: hmm, that is weird, sounds like you are missing some important lib or so. best to ask in #amarok
[12:57] <teledyn_> pupeno__: you can try modinfo <module> for whatever the crypt module is
[12:58] <pupeno__> modinfo: could not find module crypt
[12:58] <pupeno__> er, nevermind. I don't know the name of the mapper module (if there's one).
[12:58] <teledyn_> pupeno__: dpkg -l '*' | grep cryptsetup
[12:59] <teledyn_> pupeno__: lsmod
[12:59] <Sharketor> mefisto: I set my keyboards layout but volume key doesn't work yet
[12:59] <pupeno__> teledyn_: oh, there's another cryptsetup!
[12:59] <berkes> Sharketor: you must see if your keyboard is supported at all.
[12:59] <mefisto__> Sharketor: try to set it up in keyboard shortcuts
[12:59] <teledyn_> pupeno__: i don't know, i've always used encfs and fuse to do fs encryption
[12:59] <berkes> many keyboard manufacturors don't release linux drivers.
[12:59] <teledyn_> pupeno__: apt-cache search cryptsetup
[01:00] <Sharketor> mefisto: where is?
[01:00] <berkes> Sharketor: try this: open amarok, then go to settings. then choose keyboard shortcuts.
[01:00] <mefisto__> Sharketor: same section, just under the keyboard layout on the left
[01:01] <Sharketor> berkes: ok, I try
[01:01] <berkes> Sharketor: but mephisto is right too, what I told is just another route to the same settings :)
[01:02] <Sharketor> berkes: there isn't keyboards shotcuts
[01:02] <berkes> Sharketor: do you see a small "speaker icon" in your systray?
[01:03] <ricanelite> I'm so proud of myself, I finally got Ubuntu Edgy installed and everything so far working correctly, After a 4 days masscare of getting Edgy installed
[01:03] <Sharketor> whit a flag?
[01:03] <berkes> no.
[01:03] <berkes> Sharketor: okay, follow me:
[01:03] <meta> what is the english name of that kde applet that lists the tasks?
[01:04] <Sharketor> ok
[01:04] <berkes> K  System Settings
[01:04] <meta> i want to find about something related inberyl forums, but idunno that's english name
[01:04] <Sharketor> ok
[01:04] <Sharketor> I'm here
[01:04] <berkes> Sharketor: sec, my system is rather slow because of some tasks running in the BG
[01:05] <Sharketor> not to bad
[01:05] <MetaMorfoziS> somebody please check it for me...
[01:05] <Sharketor> I have time
[01:05] <berkes> Sharketor: there you choose "keyboard and mouse"
[01:05] <weedar> How am I supposed to set file associations in FF2.0? I'm unable to "see" any other directories under / than home and media
[01:05] <MetaMorfoziS> Sharketor: then please check what is the english name of that applet that lists the tasks in kicker
[01:05] <berkes> then "shortcuts" in the left hand bar
[01:06] <weedar> so I can't specify anything under /usr/bin, for example
[01:06] <Sharketor> ok
[01:06] <MetaMorfoziS> rightclick on kicker, and  remove applet or whatever, and that is in that menu
[01:06] <MetaMorfoziS> but i dunno what is that's english name
[01:06] <Sharketor> wait wait
[01:07] <berkes> Sharketor, can you fing a "volume" there?
[01:07] <Sharketor> well, in system settings I haven't "keyboard and mouse"
[01:08] <berkes> hmm. I cannot help you then :(
[01:08] <rlj> upgraded from dapper to edgy, trying to get zeroconf to work. avahi-daemon is running, but kpf (mini-taskbar-webserver) claims it can't publish itself so i assume it's not really working yet
[01:10] <Sharketor> berkes: I choose "regional and accesibility"
[01:11] <Sharketor> then "keyboards layouts"
[01:11] <rlj> zeroconf:/ ioslave returns a blank screen as well
[01:11] <Sharketor> then layouts
[01:11] <berkes> Sharketor: afaiks that is wrong.
[01:11] <feldegast> rlj: are u using xgl?
[01:11] <berkes> you need shortcuts, not keyboard layouts!
[01:12] <mefisto__> Sharketor: keyboard shortcuts is right under keyboard layouts
[01:12] <berkes> Sharketor: on my system (Dutch) its the third row, second icon.
[01:13] <Sharketor> ok, I found it
[01:13] <Sharketor> now
[01:13] <rlj> feldegast: no.
[01:14] <rlj> feldegast: not blank as in black, blank as in no icons or text, just konq background
[01:14] <berkes> Sharketor: find out if you see the command "volume up" etc.
[01:15] <Sharketor> now see
[01:15] <wombat_> Woot, all sorted
[01:15] <rlj> feldegast: meaning zeroconf ioslave found nothing, including any localhost service that might be published. i.e. no working zeroconf (at least server). client might be working. dunno if i have any other zeroconf clients on this network
[01:15] <daftvader> hello
[01:16] <daftvader> everyone
[01:16] <rlj> feldegast: since most of the other hosts are win98
[01:16] <daftvader> does anyone get a "test tv" for their usplash?
[01:16] <Sharketor> nothing
[01:16] <Sharketor> there isn't
[01:16] <daftvader> or does anyone know how to get rid of the "test tv" image for the usplash
[01:16] <mefisto__> wombat_: did restoring the backup work?
[01:16] <berkes> Sharketor: then I don't know.
[01:17] <Sharketor> ok thanks
[01:17] <berkes> Sharketor: as I said earlier: find out if your keyboard has linux support at all.-
[01:17] <Sharketor> ok
[01:17] <Sharketor> bye
[01:17] <wombat_> yeah, I just had to work out how to restore it. there's an edit as root command in the right click drop down menu when viewing your files
[01:18] <mefisto__> there is???
[01:18] <berkes> wombat_: there is. But it only works with textfiles. AND when you have one file selected only
[01:19] <mefisto__> ok, in actions submenu. That's handy
[01:20] <ricanelite> Anyone here use XGL Desktop?
[01:21] <wombat_> berkes: Yeah, I was trying to work out how to edit the xorg.config files
[01:21] <Dr_willis> sudo vi /etc/xorg.conf :)
[01:22] <Dr_willis> I dont notice that edit as root menu item.
[01:22] <ricanelite> Is there a Channel for user that use Apple Mac machines to run Ubuntu Linux?
[01:22] <BlueEagle> ricanelite: Yes, it's #ubuntu for the regular ubuntu, this channel for kubuntu and #xubuntu for those who run the xubuntu variant.
[01:22] <BlueEagle> !xgl
[01:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:22] <Dr_willis> ricanelite, the ubuntu wiki/forums also have some areas just for mac users
[01:23] <wombat_> is there some type of rollback program for system settings? like the system restore in windows?
[01:23] <BlueEagle> wombat_: Not other than backing up configuration files before you alter them. :)
[01:24] <BlueEagle> wombat_: (which everyone does, right?) :)
[01:24] <wombat_> um... yeah... um... of course :D
[01:24] <berkes> did anyone get glmatrix screensaver to work on kubuntu?
[01:24] <BlueEagle> !anyone
[01:24] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:24] <berkes> weird thing is, that it is installed here. Its just not available under the screensaver settings.
[01:25] <BlueEagle> berkes: Have you got glx installed correctly?
[01:25] <berkes> BlueEagle: I think I did, hoz zould I know?
[01:25] <BlueEagle> berkes: glxinfo should tell you.
[01:25] <BlueEagle> berkes: or flglxinfo if you run ATi (i think that's what it's called)
[01:26] <wombat_> in the hardware tab of monitor and display settings there is a test button. I clicked it before, after changing some settings, and got a black and white checked screen with a black X for a cursor. what do you do from there?
[01:26] <Ace> can someone help me get my java to work with firefox
[01:26] <wombat_> besides hittin the reset button :D
[01:26] <BlueEagle> !java
[01:26] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:27] <Ace> ok
[01:27] <Ace> i think i got it installed though
[01:27] <berkes> BlueEagle: I found out that, in order to get more screensavers, the package xscreensaver is required too.
[01:27] <berkes> it works now :/. Weird to see that about 12 screensavers are installed but cannot work :)
[01:27] <BlueEagle> wombat_: Well CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE will restart your X-server. Other than that, I don' know what caused it to appear in the first place. The screen you're describing is the X-server root window w/o any wm running on it.
[01:29] <BlueEagle> ace: Please read the page on help.ubuntu.com and if you're still not getting it working please tell us exactly which step that fails and if possible what error you are getting.
[01:30] <Ace> ok i downloaded it from its website and ran it it installed and dont work
[01:32] <wombat_> BlueEagle: could it be because of faulty graphics card drivers?
[01:33] <BlueEagle> wombat_: It could, but I've never used it so I am unable to effectively debug it. :/
[01:33] <ricanelite> when i type in sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin it says E: Could'nt find package sun-java5-bin
[01:34] <BlueEagle> !repos
[01:34] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:35] <Dr_willis> hmm
[01:35] <Dr_willis> why is it - ive never had to install sun-java5-bin..
[01:35] <Dr_willis> !java
[01:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:36] <pupeno_> Once a mapping is defined in /etc/crypttab, how do I activate it ?
[01:37] <deep> I can't see any desktop icon or bar, only start-up programs (kopete and konversation) and rigth-click on desktop don't open any menu
[01:37] <deep> anyone can help?:P
[01:38] <ricanelite> Well, I'm running a PPC Computer which is a Apple Machine and I just got so confuse when i saw the directions for it, lol
[01:38] <Dr_willis> deep,  sounds like your .kde settings got totally messed up
[01:38] <deep> :<
[01:38] <Dr_willis> deep,  could just delete the .kde* dirs and logout/backin and that should kick kde in the head and back to defaults.
[01:41] <Marius_> Hi guys! I am having problems with my mouse. I am using a laptop and an USB optical mouse. After several minutes of operation my USB mouse stops working and I can use only my pad. I tried reinstalling the xserver but nothing happens
[01:43] <wombat_> I have all the repositories enabled in Adept Manager but I can't find the sun-java5-jre
[01:44] <Dr_willis> Marius_,  chedk dmesg output
[01:44] <Riddell> wombat_: you need to add multiverse manually, plus you can't install java through adept yet
[01:45] <wombat_> ok, do I open the root console and type install sun-java5-jre.bin?
[01:45] <wombat_> I have added all of the repositories
[01:45] <Riddell> wombat_: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[01:46] <wombat_> kk, thank you
[01:46] <Dr_willis> .bin is a binary you run..
[01:46] <Dr_willis> best to use the apt-get command. :)
[01:48] <pupeno_> Where do I have to list mappings for cryptsetup to automatically create them upon mounting ?
[01:48] <wombat_> Package sun-java5-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.  This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package sun-java5-jre has no installation candidate
[01:49] <xsacha> wombat: have you ever run update?
[01:49] <Dr_willis> wombat_,  you did a sudo apt-get update  - AFTER you edieted the repositories?
[01:49] <Riddell> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-b6030233763f831b1ff3a43e7ee3d804fd879ce5
[01:50] <wombat_> xsacha: I don't think so, I've only had this install on the computer for 2 days
[01:50] <xsacha> like Dr_willis said above: sudo apt-get update
[01:50] <wombat_> Dr_willis: sorry, I don't understand
[01:51] <Dr_willis> after chagneing your repos, and  about every day... you want to do the 'sudo apt-get update'   then 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[01:51] <Dr_willis> if you DONT update.. then the changes to the repositories do NOT take affect.
[01:51] <Dr_willis> or effect. :)
[01:51] <Dr_willis> apt-get basics. :)
[01:52] <wombat_> ok, I have done both update and upgrade and still get the same response
[01:52] <wombat_> do I have to add the repositories through the console?
[01:52] <Dr_willis> then either your apt.sources are down.. or the pacakges are messed up on the server...
[01:53] <Dr_willis> i always use the console.. :) its easier.
[01:53] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[01:53] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:53] <Dr_willis> this is on a ppc machine however? Hmm
[01:53] <Dr_willis> or was that anotehr guy?
[01:53] <wombat_> I added them through the adept manager
[01:53] <wombat_> that was someone else
[01:54] <wombat_> mine's a PIII
[01:56] <wombat_> source-o-matic doesn't have the latest distro
[01:57] <drhouse_> hello. i see only 85 refresh.. how can i see lower?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> it will. the person that owns it has alot on his plate right now when he gets time he will update it.
[01:58] <Dr_willis> i still think we need a littel app included iwith the disrtos to help in rebuilding of the sources.list
[01:58] <mefisto__> if I remove my windows hard drive (with grub) and just leave my kubuntu drive, will it boot up?
[01:58] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  ya get any mail back from the frostwire guys? :)
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: i have an idea for a project
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> that will be insane / really helpful to some people
[01:59] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: not yet but i might not need to
[01:59] <Dr_willis> mefisto__,  you mean physicially remove hda? leaving hdc which has linux on it?
[01:59] <gnomefreak> also havent checked mail t oday yet
[01:59] <mefisto__> Dr_willis: yes exactly
[01:59] <Dr_willis> mefisto__,  grub will get confused. :) and you will need to edit the menu.lst and reisntall grub.
[01:59] <Dr_willis> mefisto__,  but the /etc/fstab shouldent be affected.. unless you move hdc to hda's place.
[02:00] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: there is a command for it but i cant think of it
[02:00] <Dr_willis> removing grub from hda.  will normally need a XP boot cd in rescue mode, to use the 'fixmbr' command.
[02:00] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: to redo the sources.list file
[02:00] <mefisto__> so I reinstall grub before disconnecting hda?
[02:00] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  yea - i rember one from debian days.. but i dident think it worked very well..
[02:01] <gnomefreak> it may not never tried it
[02:01] <Dr_willis> mefisto__,  you can edit the grub configs and put grub on hdc now if you wanted.. yes.
[02:01] <mefisto__> do you have a link to some instructions, Dr_willis?
[02:01] <Dr_willis> mefisto__,  BUT the problem is that grub reenumerates (right word) the drives  when the system starts up. Your hdc of hd(1,1)  or whatever just moved up the chain.
[02:02] <Dr_willis> mefisto__,  the grub homepage/manual is very very well done and worth reading. :)
[02:02] <wombat_> !grub
[02:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:02] <Dr_willis> install grub to hdc.  then when ya boot after removing the hd. you may have to edit the grub boot lines to use the proper (hd0,1) or whatever entry
[02:03] <Dr_willis> also rember that grub starts counting at 0 :)
[02:07] <wombat_> can you make GRUB boot the windows install by default? my wife's upset that she has to make it boot to windows.
[02:08] <pupeno_> I am trying to configure pam mount to mount my encrypted filesystem. My problem is it tries to mount /dev/mapper/pupeno without first creating the mapping. Do you know what might I be missing ?
[02:09] <xsacha> !grub
[02:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:09] <mattia> !ls
[02:09] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:09] <mattia> !apt-get
[02:09] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:10] <xsacha> wombat_: try man grub
[02:10] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get remove wife :)
[02:10] <xsacha> and try that grubhowto
[02:11] <xsacha> you should be able to change it easily in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:12] <mefisto__> wombat_: I edited /boot/grub/menu.lst today to do exactly what you're asking
[02:12] <grill_>  scp wife -> Admiral_Chicago
[02:12] <mefisto__> wombat_: just put XP at the top
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> grill_: man i once told a girl i wouldn't date her because she was running windows
[02:14] <grill_> lol
[02:14] <xsacha> and she told you she wouldnt date you anyway because you're running linux?
[02:14] <py_> hello, it seems that kubuntu edgy (6.10) installer does not support reiserfs anymore. Does someone know why?
[02:15] <xsacha> yes, on purpose.. py_ .. you can of course just make a reiser partition yourself
[02:15] <Jucato> py_: the Desktop installer never had a reiserfs option. even in Dapper
[02:15] <dude_> jucato !
[02:15] <dude_> :)
[02:15] <Jucato> dude_: hi!
[02:16] <Jucato> py_: the Alternate Install CD has a reiserfs option
[02:16] <dude_> jucato: tagay na ! hehehe
[02:16] <Admiral_Chicago> xsacha: whatever that's not the type of girl I want
[02:16] <py_> Jucato: hum, I'm perhaps confusing server and desktop version, but at least one of these had reiserfs support.
[02:16] <py_> Is there a technical reason not to include it on the "default" install cd?
[02:16] <Jucato> py_: there are 3 CD's: Desktop CD, Alternate Install CD, and Server CD. only the Desktop CD has no reiserfs
[02:16] <dude_> !beryl
[02:16] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[02:17] <xsacha> people complained about losing data on reiser or something
[02:17] <Jucato> py_: according to the devs, it's because the QtParted used in the installer doesn't suppor reiserfs yet
[02:18] <Dr_willis> reiserfs - the most loved and hated fs in the world. :)
[02:18] <xsacha> py_ it's pretty simple to just make the reiser yourself though :) mkreiserfs is incredibly easy to type
[02:18] <dude_> jucato: what's the command again for downloading and installing xubuntu or edubuntu?
[02:18] <dude_> !xgl
[02:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:19] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  (perhaps)
[02:19] <Jucato> dude_: "sudo aptitude update" and "sudo aptitude install -R xubuntu-desktop"
[02:19] <Jucato> dude_: you could use apt-get if you want
[02:19] <dude_> jucato: tnx, tagay na ! hehehe
[02:19] <py_> xsacha: i know, I'm used to do it that way, but I just got a call from a friend who was confused by this lack of option, and which is not used to doing stuff "by hand". He was quite positive about having found it on a 6.06 Ubuntu CD previously, so he was quite surprised by the lack of it.
[02:19] <Jucato> heheh later dude_. work first before pleasure :)
[02:20] <Jucato> py_: the *Ubuntu* Destkop CD has that option, because GParted supports it
[02:20] <Jucato> *Kubuntu* doesn't. it uses QtParted
[02:20] <py_> Jucato: yeah, that's why I specifically came here abiout Kubunty, as he is installing Kubuntu this time.
[02:20] <Jucato> py_: well, know you know :)
[02:20] <xsacha> i would have thought it'd be much easier for it support reiser than ext3 lol
[02:21] <py_> Jucato: yep, thank you!
[02:21] <dude_> jucato: actually we're drinkin right now with my friends, they're trying the linux OS, they want to feel the power of the open source OS :)
[02:21] <Jucato> lol
[02:22] <ubuntu__> Is it possible to retain your /home directory while doing a new install instead of an update?
[02:22] <dude_> jucatu: Xp loyalist
[02:23] <Jucato> ubuntu__: only if you put it in a separate partition
[02:24] <ubuntu__> jucato, so I would have to create a new partition in 6.06, and then just make sure not to format that particular partition when i go to install 6.10?
[02:24] <Jucato> ubuntu__: /home must be on a separate partition. so basically that's a "yes"
[02:25] <Pastilhas_VViki> whats the ubuntu police for new versions?
[02:25] <dude_> jucatu: can i have your mobile #? : )
[02:26] <Jucato> dude_: no :P
[02:26] <dude_> ;)
[02:26] <gebruiker> I want to setup a /etc/network/interfaces for my wifi card How do I do that?
[02:26] <ubuntu__> Well I mean, I already have the /home directory, and there are files in it I do not want to lose... If I simply don't choose to format that particular partition while installing 6.10, and assign that partition as my /home partition, will my old files still be there?
[02:28] <ubuntu__> with the /home directory already being it's own partition
[02:29] <mefisto__> is there a way to show disk usage (free space) in kubuntu gui?
[02:29] <Jucato> ubuntu__: as long as /home is on that other partition and you don't format that partition during the installation
[02:29] <Jucato> mefisto__: install "filelight"
[02:30] <ubuntu__> jucato, thanks
[02:30] <xsacha> anyone else her elike yakuake?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: was talking to motu to see if it will save me a day or 2 see if we cant get it in repos
[02:32] <gnomefreak> but it would only be in feisty
[02:32] <gnomefreak> Jucato: frostwire
[02:32] <Jucato> ah
[02:32] <Jucato> :)
[02:33] <gnomefreak> since everyone uses it and the installer wont install on edgy without tweeking it
[02:33] <xsacha> is frostwire identical to limewire or improved?
[02:33] <xsacha> or worse?
[02:33] <Jucato> because of DASH?
[02:33] <gnomefreak> yep
[02:33] <gnomefreak> xsacha: about the same
[02:33] <Jucato> !frostwire > xsacha
[02:33] <gnomefreak> ones free ones not
[02:34] <xsacha> yes i know that Jucato :P but that doesnt help
[02:34] <gnomefreak> gui might be a little different
[02:34] <Jucato> lol
[02:34] <Jucato> sorry xsacha :)
[02:34] <xsacha> i've seen it, just wasnt able to install ot
[02:35] <xsacha> im using KTorrent and Apollon..
[02:35] <gnomefreak> yeah sometimes a torrent but not big ont hem
[02:35] <xsacha> i always get bad, but most importantly random speeds on torrent
[02:35] <gnomefreak> brb
[02:36] <xsacha> since tomorrow is last day of month, i need to d/l a lot, fast.. on irc i can d/l 4gb/hour but there isnt enough on here
[02:36] <xsacha> any ideas for speed + a lot of stuff to download? :)
[02:36] <Jucato> oh... All Hallow's Eve...
[02:37] <mefisto__> I've installed filelight. Does it work within konqueror? I can't find it in the menus
[02:37] <xsacha> i saw 300 million GB on OpenFT network, but still couldnt find everything i wanted :(
[02:37] <Jucato> mefisto__: it should be under Utilities
[02:38] <Jucato> mefisto__: but if you really want a very very simple way to check disk space, just right-click on an empty space in Konqueror (file management mode) and select Properties, look towards the bottom of the box
[02:38] <xsacha> konsole is simple...
[02:39] <Jucato> xsacha: he was asking for a GUI way :)
[02:39] <xsacha> konsole is a gui app :) it just has a terminal inside it ;)
[02:39] <mefisto__> no Jucato, I just meant non-console method
[02:39] <xsacha> :(
[02:40] <Jucato> mefisto__: er?
[02:40] <mefisto__> thanks xsacha
[02:40] <xsacha> got 50% of my swap memory used :(
[02:41] <Jucato> :(
[02:41] <mikel28> ROFL
[02:42] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i had to tell a kid today, I barely feel safe running Ktorrent on Linux
[02:42] <Admiral_Chicago> forget Bearshare on Windows
[02:42] <xsacha> lol bearshare
[02:42] <mikel28> forget windows
[02:42] <Admiral_Chicago> why would anyone put themselves through that
[02:42] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: don't know bearshare :)
[02:43] <Admiral_Chicago> it's a p2p app, I used it once
[02:43] <Jucato> ah. I never had trouble with torrents, even in Windows. but Limewire + older sister = not a good combination
[02:43] <FlameMaster> hey guys, quick question
[02:43] <xsacha> its not torrents i think jucato
[02:44] <Jucato> ah
[02:44] <FlameMaster> can I write to NTFS volumes on kubuntu edgy?
[02:44] <Jucato> told you I didn't know anything about bearshare :P
[02:44] <xsacha> gnutella probably, or donkey or something
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> FlameMaster: not safely
[02:44] <Jucato> FlameMaster: basically, no. there are *experimental* ways though. beta stuff
[02:44] <xsacha> FlameMaster: you can write to them so long as you do not change the filesize :D
[02:45] <FlameMaster> Admiral_Chicago: Yes, I have read about the "experimental" ways (captive, ntfs3g, etc)
[02:45] <FlameMaster> what I meant was: Out of the Box NTFS write support on edgy Y/N?
[02:45] <Jucato> no
[02:45] <FlameMaster> even if it's not safe
[02:45] <gnomefreak> no
[02:45] <gnomefreak> FlameMaster: not safe at all
[02:45] <FlameMaster> ah ok
[02:46] <BluesKaj> what's the command for installing an *.xpi file ?
[02:46] <Jucato> well, you could always give read/write permissions to your NTFS partition... but...
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> FlameMaster: i read about ntsf3g but i'm just not sure. besides i like ext3
[02:46] <FlameMaster> Jucato: I'd rather try with captive... has anyone tested that?
[02:46] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: for firefox?
[02:46] <BluesKaj> yes
[02:46] <xsacha> FlameMaster: the kernel is compiled with write permission, but it's so long as you dont change the filesize
[02:47] <FlameMaster> Admiral_Chicago: Well, too bad I still have to use windows :S
[02:47] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: open ff go to tools and plugins than install and choose the .xpi and it will install it for you
[02:47] <Jucato> aah firefox stuff...
[02:47] <xsacha> FlameMaster: you can create a large but empty file (when in windows) and then mount to it when you get into linux and because it wont change the file size, you can write to it as much as you want
[02:47] <Admiral_Chicago> FlameMaster: i know maybe think about using Fat32
[02:47] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: downloading them should install them for you
[02:47] <xsacha> FlameMaster: there's a tutorial for it
[02:47] <BluesKaj> cool, thx gnomefreak :)
[02:47] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: mostly thunderbird needs you to save it first
[02:47] <FlameMaster> xsacha: uri?
[02:48] <Marius_> how about reading/writing linux partitions from windows
[02:48] <FlameMaster> Marius_: Linux Drives plugin for Total Commander
[02:48] <gnomefreak> Marius_: its possible. safe not too sure about
[02:48] <FlameMaster> Marius_: It only supports reading and doesn't support logical volumes, though
[02:48] <gnomefreak> remember back up everything you need to save beofre writing to anything ;)
[02:48] <FlameMaster> Admiral_Chicago: I'm not going to change my partition from NTFS to FAT32
[02:49] <FlameMaster> Admiral_Chicago: too risky
[02:49] <andrerav> hi - I have some problems with konsole schemas and transparency. If I set "transparent konsole" as default schema, the first tab in konsole will have a transparent terminal. However any subsequent tabs will have a black and non-transparent terminal. I have tried resetting my konsolerc, and logging in with a brand new user - but to no avail. This also affects yakuake. Anyone know what's going on? (I'm on edgy, but this problem started in dapper)
[02:49] <FlameMaster> Admiral_Chicago: I do have some sort of "swap" fat32 partition
[02:49] <Admiral_Chicago> FlameMaster: it's was too risky to resize a NTSF partition, that is how i hosed my XP partition
[02:49] <FlameMaster> Admiral_Chicago: : that's what I said
[02:50] <Admiral_Chicago> decided XP was not worth the trouble
[02:50] <BluesKaj> gnomefreak, I'm trying to install Media wrap which is in beta at a different site than Firefox xtns , so there is no self installer for it
[02:50] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: save it to home and try to install it that way
[02:50] <xsacha> FlameMaster: http://bisqwit.iki.fi/story/howto/ntfs/
[02:50] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: since it wont install for you
[02:50] <FlameMaster> Admiral_Chicago: I'm just waiting to buy a 250GiB HD, backup all my NTFS partitions, and then format on fat32
[02:51] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: i cant test it atm since im not using ff 1.5-2.0
[02:51] <FlameMaster> xsacha: tanks
[02:51] <FlameMaster> *thanks
[02:51] <xsacha> that sort of write support will work out of the box FlameMaster :) but it all has to be put in same file (sort of like an archive/rar)
[02:51] <BluesKaj> I did and i keep getting the same "not found" message
[02:51] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: what is the URL
[02:51] <gnomefreak> ill see if i cant do it here :(
[02:51] <Admiral_Chicago> FlameMaster: backups are a good idea regardless
[02:51] <FlameMaster> has anyone tried mounting a Captive-NTFS partition?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> but i doubt its built for my version
[02:52] <FlameMaster> I did once, but messed up someway and couldn't write
[02:52] <BluesKaj> gnomefreak, http://www.box.net/public/gqrm6lzeou
[02:52] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: brb lets see if i can figure this out
[02:53] <FlameMaster> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_NTFS
[02:54] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: once saved right click the saved package adn open with firefox :)
[02:55] <dude_> jucatu: is beryl stable?
[02:55] <gnomefreak> you will need to choose open with other app than choose firefox
[02:55] <gnomefreak> and it should bring up the install dialog
[02:55] <MenZa> tunicwriter!
[02:56] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: welcome tot he world of people making our lives a bit more diffucult
[02:56] <ja> Hi folks. I installed Dapper on my laptop a few months back and at the moment, everything is perfect. But I'm curious about how people are getting on with edgy?
[02:57] <FlameMaster> ja: My networking teacher was also using Dapper on his laptop, and recently upgraded to edgy. Everything is working smoothly.
[02:57] <xsacha> no probs for me in edgy, but heard about a lot of trouble upgrading from dapper to it
[02:57] <gnomefreak> ja: some good some not so good
[02:57] <BluesKaj> gnomefreak, right on, i should have known that , DOH! ...thx :)
[02:57] <gnomefreak> ja: i havent had issues with edgy in a long time
[02:58] <shanden_> buongiornooo
[02:58] <BluesKaj> !it
[02:58] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:59] <Marius_> ja: I used dapper on my laptop and just updated... after reboot I had too manually install kubuntu-desktop
[02:59] <Marius_> but after that everything is well
[02:59] <gnomefreak> using update-manager fixes that :)
[02:59] <BluesKaj> oh, another small annoyance gnomefreak, is there s a fix for the screensaver bug yet ...the timer works ok , the slideshow doesn't work ?
[02:59] <Marius_> except I have a problem wiht my usb mouse which stops working after a few min.. and i can only use my pad
[03:00] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: for ksnapshot?
[03:00] <Marius_> gnomefreak: i used synaptic and did not work
[03:00] <Mon> i have a upgrade-to-edgy problem. probably because the upgrade was interupted. biggest problem seems to be: "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state, you should reinstall it before attempting a removal". but using -f with apt-get doesn't work
[03:00] <gnomefreak> Marius_: gksudo update-manager -c
[03:01] <gnomefreak> Mon: would that be a curror package
[03:01] <Marius_> gnomefreak: thanks.. i will try that
[03:01] <gnomefreak> cant spell
[03:01] <BluesKaj> no, i use my pictures as the source file for the systems/desktop screensaver
[03:01] <|WAL|> where does Adept/Apt keep logs of what was installed/updated/removed?
[03:01] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: didnt know there was a bug in it sorry
[03:01] <BluesKaj> err, "my pictures"
[03:02] <Mon> gnomefreak: i wouldnt know, it does depend on libeel2-2 which version is not yet available it seems
[03:02] <BluesKaj> ok, a ot of us have the same problem it seems
[03:02] <Mon> gnomefreak: but i've upgrade my other pc to edgy about 2 weeks ago with no problems
[03:02] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: anyone file a bug yet?
[03:03] <wombat_> how do you install a *bin file?
[03:03] <gnomefreak> Mon: try gksudo "update-manager -c"
[03:03] <gnomefreak> wonyou run them not install them
[03:03] <gnomefreak> wombat_: sh file.bin
[03:03] <BluesKaj> gnomefreak, only one that i saw
[03:03] <Mon> gnomefreak: i think that'd just be a dist-upgrade. which doesn't work because of a lot of dep. problems. also no X atm
[03:03] <shadowhywind> can anyone help me set up my swap partition, which kubuntu refuses to see!
[03:03] <Mon> shadowhywind: tried mkswap ?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> Mon: update-manager -c will update your system from dapper to edgy. it fixes depends for you
[03:04] <Tm_T> Hi kkathman.
[03:04] <Mon> gnomefreak: probably, but as i said, no X/gnome whatever atm. system won't even boot. i'm in a chrooted env. now
[03:04] <shadowhywind> when i do mkswap i get Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 534605 kB, no label, UUID=613c8660-13f3-49f6-a5ba-fd40a108aa38
[03:04] <gnomefreak> Mon: ah
[03:04] <kkathman> greetings Tm_T :)
[03:04] <gnomefreak> try sudo apt-get -f install
[03:04] <Mon> shadowhywind: then swapon -a, or swapon /dev/swapdevice i think
[03:05] <Mon> gnomefreak: like i said, that doesn't work :)
[03:05] <shadowhywind> do i have to update fstab?
[03:05] <Mon> shadowhywind: if it's not already in there yeah
[03:05] <Mon> gnomefreak: then i get the nautilus problem
[03:05] <gnomefreak> Mon: than install xserver-xorg xorg -xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-all
[03:05] <shadowhywind> now the funny thing, is it will work, it will load on boot, but the moment i try to hibernate it fails to load on bootup
[03:05] <gnomefreak> ack
[03:06] <Mon> gnomefreak: it's installed but i just have a broken system atm
[03:06] <Mon> gnomefreak: the GUI thing wont help me, it just calls apt-get and dpkg...
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Mon: is it installed or just downloaded?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Mon: pastebint he full errors
[03:06] <Mon> shadowhywind: sorry i have no experience with hibernating. it's a bit on a works-per-machine basis
[03:06] <gnomefreak> pastebin the
[03:07] <Mon> gnomefreak: it was a running dapper system upgraded to edgy, but someone interupted the upgrade halfway which may have something to do with it
[03:07] <shadowhywind> the other funny thing, is it was working perfectly in dapper, once i did the upgrade it stopped working
[03:07] <gnomefreak> Mon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should continue the upgrade after stopping it
[03:07] <shadowhywind> also is there supposed to be a enty in mtab for swap?
[03:07] <Mon> well it's "edgy" ;) if you really want a stable system i'd wait 2 weeks after each release for things to work out a bit
[03:08] <Mon> gnomefreak: doesn't work..
[03:08] <|WAL|> where does Adept/Apt keep logs of what was installed/updated/removed?
[03:08] <Jucato> shadowhywind: having swap problems?
[03:08] <gnomefreak> Mon: instead of it doesnt work show me the errors or we cant really helpp
[03:08] <shadowhywind> jucato yes!! hehe
[03:08] <Jucato> shadowhywind: what sort of problem?
[03:08] <Mon> i have a upgrade-to-edgy problem. probably because the upgrade was interupted. biggest problem seems to be: "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state, you should reinstall it before attempting a removal". but using -f with apt-get doesn't work
[03:08] <Mon> that's the error
[03:08] <gnomefreak> Mon: i can give you 65 commands to fix it but i need the errors
[03:09] <Mon> package is inconsisten.. that's it
[03:09] <shadowhywind> well at first, the swap was not being loaded at boot, i think i fixed that problem. And it loads everytime i start, but if i hibernate it fails to load the swap
[03:09] <gnomefreak> the full command of "sudo apt-get -f install" what does it say
[03:10] <Mon> alright
[03:10] <Mon> first some will be updated/upgraded etc packages, nothing weird
[03:10] <gnomefreak> than its working
[03:10] <shadowhywind> so any ideas jucato?
[03:10] <Jucato> shadowhywind: oh... hm... how did you fix the loading problem? they might  be related
[03:10] <gnomefreak> its fixing broken packages
[03:11] <shadowhywind> all i basically did was mkswap /dev/sda7 took the uuid number and add that to fstab
[03:11] <alexicon> hiya, im trying to install nvidia-glx but when i change the xorg.conf driver to "nvidia" X wont start up
[03:11] <gnomefreak> after that sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should work unless more broken packages but i will brb
[03:11] <shadowhywind> alexicon comes up with a error no screens found?
[03:11] <Jucato> shadowhywind: did you confirm that the UUID of sda7 and the one in fstab matches?
[03:11] <alexicon> yes i think thats the one
[03:11] <shadowhywind> yes, because i copied and pasted it in
[03:11] <Jucato> alexicon: did you install linux-restricted-modules?
[03:12] <MrKev> hi
[03:12] <alexicon> no Jucato
[03:12] <Emess> bwahahahahaha! the glider is now my kmenu icon :D
[03:12] <Jucato> alexicon: you need that
[03:12] <MrKev> is there anybody from the Czech Republic?
[03:12] <alexicon> oh wait, it says installed
[03:12] <Jucato> alexicon: install the linux-restricted-modules that matches your kernel
[03:12] <alexicon> hrm ok
[03:12] <Mon> gnomefreak: here goes:
[03:12] <Mon> dpkg: error processing nautilus (--remove): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[03:12] <shadowhywind> let me reboot, and get this last fstab set and working
[03:12] <Mon> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'
[03:12] <Mon> what(): basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid
[03:12] <alexicon> oh
[03:12] <Mon> Aborted
[03:12] <alexicon> my uname -a says i686
[03:13] <alexicon> and i have 386 linux-restricted-modules
[03:13] <MrKev> I want to set text mode as default - in mandrakelinux 9.1 it was easy, but in KUBUNTU I do not know how to do it
[03:13] <Jucato> alexicon: are you on Edgy?
[03:13] <MrKev> can You help me?
[03:13] <alexicon> no Jucato
[03:13] <MrKev> please? :)
[03:14] <Jucato> alexicon: ah Dapper, get the result of "uname -r" and look for the linux-restricted-modules that matches that
[03:14] <MrKev> :(
[03:14] <xsacha> MrKev: for grub?
[03:15] <wombat_> hmm running sh *.bin to install java didn't work
[03:15] <alexicon> Jucato: it matches what i have, let me try enabling the glx again
[03:15] <MrKev> xsacha: I dont understand:(
[03:15] <MrKev> xsacha: grub?
[03:15] <xsacha> what do you want text mode for?
[03:16] <shadowhywind> ok so activating swap was ok this time
[03:16] <MrKev> xsacha: its better to start linux in txt mode for me
[03:16] <gnomefreak> Mon: sudo apt-get install --reinstall naultius
[03:16] <xsacha> MrKev: i assume you are talking about the boot loader, GRUB
[03:16] <Mon> gnomefreak: already tried :) no go
[03:16] <shadowhywind> and system guard sees the swap, so everything is good at the moment, If i hibernate right now, it will not load on startup
[03:16] <MrKev> xsacha: aaaa:) Yes, I use GRUB
[03:16] <Mon> gnomefreak: then i get the libeel dep. problem
[03:16] <xsacha> MrKev: has nothing to do with kubuntu/mandrake, but you can sort out grub in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:16] <gnomefreak> Mon: sudo dpkg -r naultis?
[03:17] <xsacha> !grub
[03:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:17] <shadowhywind> it will say, harddrive was not cleanly unmounted, so any ideas?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> Mon: run apt-get -f install again
[03:17] <Mon> very bad state problem
[03:17] <MrKev> xsacha: thanx
[03:17] <Mon> same error
[03:17] <gnomefreak> Mon: if that doesnt work sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:17] <gnomefreak> Mon: ack
[03:17] <gnomefreak> wait
[03:17] <gnomefreak> Mon: your on gnome or kde?
[03:17] <Mon> lol oops
[03:17] <Mon> ah nevermind i guess :)
[03:18] <gnomefreak> Mon: install ubuntu-desktop if using gnome
[03:18] <Mon> the #ubuntu chan is way too busy and questions seem to go by unnoticed
[03:18] <Mon> yeah i know
[03:18] <Mon> dep errors
[03:18] <gnomefreak> on what packages
[03:18] <Mon> i need to manually fix something i think, the whole apt-get thing doesn't work
[03:18] <pupeno__> how many passes would you give to badblocks for a HD know to have bad blocks ?
[03:18] <Mon> pff loads, ttf-stuff, vlc, games et
[03:18] <Mon> *etc
[03:19] <Mon> python OOo
[03:19] <gnomefreak> Mon: please pastebin the full output
[03:19] <shadowhywind> so jucato any ideas?
[03:19] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[03:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:19] <Mon> which would be typing over 2 screens of erros, no thanks ;)
[03:19] <MrKev> xsacha:  i opened menu.lst, but i dont know where can I set this
[03:19] <radius> anyone know if there is a zinio mag substitute for kubuntu? running it in wine just doesn't run nicely
[03:19] <Jucato> shadowhywind: sorry, none... :(
[03:19] <Mon> i'm on my macbook now, the pc's really screwed
[03:19] <xsacha> MrKev: follow that link above the grubhowto
[03:19] <arvind_> hellow
[03:20] <arvind_> how do I add locales to the system?
[03:20] <mefisto__> what do I need to view flash swf (saved locally, not web content)
[03:20] <MrKev> xsacha: grubhoeto?
[03:20] <MrKev> xsacha: grubhowto?
[03:20] <xsacha> !grub > MrKev
[03:20] <gnomefreak> Mon: than i suggest reinstalling. i cant see errors it makes it that much harder/more time to fix. like i said there are a bunch of commands to fix each error
[03:21] <Marius_> Does anyone now a good tool to congfigure a tv tunner under kubunutu... my system saw the tunner but when tvtime is tryubg to find the channels it can;t find a single one ( i selected the right region/format)
[03:22] <|WAL|> where does Adept/Apt keep logs of what was installed/updated/removed?
[03:22] <Jucato> |WAL|: /var/log/dpkg.log
[03:22] <Jucato> sometimes dpkg.0.log I think...
[03:23] <MrKev> thanx for help. bye
[03:24] <xsacha> MrKev: edit your /etc/inittab file. If the entry is like "id:3:initdefault:." then it will boot in text mode. If the entry is like "id:5:initdefault:." then it will boot in graphical mode.
[03:24] <xsacha> :P wrong file anyway
[03:25] <|WAL|> Jucato: txs
[03:26] <thyko> whats the diff between apache-mpm-prefork and apache-mpm-worker?
[03:27] <xsacha> edgy doesnt have inittab because of this upstart thing right?
[03:27] <kkathman> Any suggestions on how to configure mplayer/kmplayer inside firefox2 to be able to play wmv streams from sites like BBC or CNN ?
[03:28] <xsacha> oh found it: /etc/event.d/tt1
[03:28] <mefisto__> what do I need to view flash swf (saved locally, not web content)
[03:28] <xsacha> tty1*
[03:28] <BluesKaj> kkathman, I think 'Media Wrap" might work
[03:28] <xsacha> flash player
[03:29] <kkathman> BluesKaj:  is that in the config for mplayer?
[03:29] <xsacha> libflash-swfplayer it's called mefisto__
[03:29] <gnomefreak> Mon: this may not work but try sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[03:29] <Mon> nah same errors
[03:29] <Mon> i'm thinking of reinstall too
[03:30] <BluesKaj> no kkathman, are you using FF2 ?
[03:30] <kkathman> BluesKaj:  Yeppers I am
[03:30] <kkathman> This was working ok under 1.5.0.6 in SuSE
[03:31] <kkathman> but I thought I had to use kmplayer
[03:31] <kkathman> I dont see how thats configured tho
[03:31] <mefisto__> xsacha: I have that, but get an error in totem movie player - no plugin
[03:31] <BluesKaj> hang on kkathman , i'll find the url for the beta version
[03:31] <xsacha> it's a standalone player mefisto__
[03:31] <kkathman> thanx :)
[03:33] <BluesKaj> kkathman, http://www.box.net/public/gqrm6lzeou
[03:34] <arvind_> How do I re-configure my locales
[03:34] <BluesKaj> kkathman, media wrap enables FF to use whatever media player is required by the website as long as it is installed on your system
[03:34] <arvind_> dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't seem tow work when I invoke it.
[03:34] <kkathman> BluesKaj:  ahh ok thanx -  you just download it and then how to install?
[03:35] <wombat_> what's the command to search for a file?
[03:35] <BluesKaj> kkathman, once it'dl  use the "open with " and click on FF in the menu
[03:35] <kkathman> ok
[03:35] <BluesKaj> it'll self insatll
[03:35] <mefisto__> xsacha: what's the player's name?
[03:35] <kkathman> ahh ok
[03:37] <xsacha> mefisto__: do you have swf-player ?
[03:37] <mefisto__> I just installed it
[03:38] <xsacha> run it :)
[03:38] <mefisto__> how?
[03:38] <xsacha> ?
[03:40] <kkathman> BluesKaj:  Well that didnt work either  :(  it brings up mplayer inline, but the video link appears and they I get a "stopped" message
[03:40] <mefisto__> what am I running? what's it called?
[03:41] <BluesKaj> sorry kkathman, that's beyond my expertise
[03:41] <kkathman> thats kewl.. I appreciate the help :)
[03:50] <Emess> anyone know how to setup a casio QV-R61 digital camera? when i plug it in ubuntu doesnt even see it
[03:51] <gsuveg> re
[03:51] <Emess> nevermind, digikam found it :)
[03:53] <gsuveg> Riddell: are you here ?
[03:55] <livingdaylight> We Will We Will Rock You!
[03:56] <ricanelite> How do i install the plugins so my movie player could read mp4 files
[03:57] <marius_> I am stiil having problem with my mouse which freezes after several minutes
[03:57] <marius_> i am using a laptop with edgy and only my usb mouse stops functioning
[03:57] <marius_> the laptop pad works fine
[03:57] <livingdaylight> wow, just installed Kubuntu Edgy!
[03:58] <gsuveg> livingdaylight: congrats
[03:58] <andrerav> livingdaylight: good choice
[03:58] <livingdaylight> thx, Guys!
[03:58] <Jucato> welcome to the edge!
[03:58] <Emess> livingdaylight: sexy GUI isnt it?
[03:58] <livingdaylight> feels like the right choice
[03:59] <Jucato> Eft = baby newt
[03:59] <livingdaylight> Emess: not loving the default background
[03:59] <Emess> i like the integrated digikam, i plugged my cam in and it works lol
[03:59] <Emess> i dont sue teh defualt, i use GangstaNix
[03:59] <livingdaylight> Jucato: you are loving the backgound that installs by default?
[03:59] <wildchild> o/  hello
[03:59] <Jucato> livingdaylight: yes :)
[03:59] <ricanelite> what plugin do i need to install to play mp4 files
[03:59] <Jucato> livingdaylight: you should have seen it in Knot 2. it was worse than it is now :)
[04:00] <livingdaylight> Jucato: woah, you surprise me... :)
[04:00] <Jucato> what? why? :P
[04:00] <livingdaylight> hehe
[04:00] <Jucato> although I still prefer blue... the bluish purple works too
[04:00] <livingdaylight> Jucato: i just don't think its a great look, infact i must go and change that right now
[04:01] <livingdaylight> Jucato: surely, you put your own backgrounds?
[04:01] <gsuveg> i have problem with guidance :(
[04:01] <Jucato> livingdaylight: depends on my mood :)
[04:01] <Jucato> livingdaylight: and depends whether I see a good one. but most of the time, I just choose what I like best among the default installed backgrounds
[04:02] <Emess> theres a nice kde one its plust plain silver with  some gears floating in the middle
[04:02] <Jucato> 2 gears actually
[04:02] <livingdaylight> Emess: lol, you go for those ones?
[04:02] <livingdaylight> i just like pictures of nature  in my backgrounds
[04:02] <Emess> defaultgears its called, its nice and simple
[04:02] <Jucato> the name is "Default Gears"
[04:02] <Jucato> lol
[04:03] <Jucato> nah too grey for me :P
[04:03] <BluesKaj> Jucato, livingdaylight...have you guys found out what's wrong with the screensaver seup in KDE 3.5.5 ?
[04:03] <Emess> OHMYGAWD SLACKWARE11
[04:03] <BluesKaj> setup
[04:03] <Jucato> BluesKaj: sorry... I don't use screensavers... :(
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> !Caps P Emess
[04:03] <gnomefreak> -P +|
[04:04] <Jucato> lol
[04:04] <Jucato> gnomefreak: one weakness of the | with ubotu is that it doesn't work when the factoid is triggered by multiple words, afaik
[04:04] <Emess> my bad lol
[04:04] <aib> i set Adept to update EE overnight, including a couple of extras. it's stuck at 12% at sun-java5-bin and is not utilizing any cpu. what should I do?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> Jucato: why not?
[04:05] <Jucato> gnomefreak: let me try
[04:05] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | gnomefreak
[04:05] <ubotu> gnomefreak: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:05] <Jucato> oooh it works! lol
[04:05] <gnomefreak> works fine
[04:05] <Jucato> sorry...
[04:05] <Jucato> must have been a bot lag. :)
[04:05] <livingdaylight> BluesKaj: what are you experiencing with teh setup?
[04:05] <kimmern> Hei! I have a problem witch is kinda like this: http://www.jshayden.com/img/kbar.png How do i get rid of that annoying blank space to the left of Gaim?
[04:06] <Jucato> Emess, livingdaylight: I liked this wallpaper. used it in Dapper
[04:06] <Jucato> Emess, livingdaylight: I liked this wallpaper. used it in Dapper http://jucato.multiply.com/photos/hi-res/2/59?xurl=%2Fphotos%2Fphoto%2F2%2F59
[04:06] <Hawkwind> kimmern: Unlock the panel and drag that desktop thing to the left
[04:06] <BluesKaj> livingdaylight, the scrnsvr sets up and tests perfectly but when the timer kicks in it doesn't run the attached file
[04:06] <Jucato> wb Hawkwind!
[04:06] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Mornin`
[04:07] <ricanelite> what plugins do i need to install to get my mepg4 files playing
[04:07] <livingdaylight> Jucato: lol, that is way over the top for me, hahaha, but i can see how someone might like it, :p
[04:07] <Jucato> livingdaylight: it's Kubuntu in all its might and glory :)
[04:07] <livingdaylight> Jucato: lol
[04:07] <kimmern> Hawkwind: It is unlocked, and i've troed to right click everywhere on the panel, but there is no "move taskbar" option...
[04:07] <BluesKaj> livingdaylight, the screen goes black and the "X"floater comes up
[04:08] <Admiral_Chicago> ricanelite: i believe it's libxine-extracodecs
[04:08] <Hawkwind> kimmern: Try middle clicking the little bars just to the left of the gaim
[04:08] <livingdaylight> Jucato: yea, really, nothing understated there imaho :D
[04:08] <Emess> Jucato: sexy
[04:08] <Jucato> kimmern: you must have hidden the handle applets. right-click on the Panel -> configure Panel -> Appearance -> Advanced options Applet handles to Fade out
[04:08] <livingdaylight> BluesKaj: yea, i know that one. I've just installed edgy myself so let me test it out here. But you're best off getting support from some real experts here
[04:09] <Jucato> kimmern: those handles will show themselves when you hover over the edge of the taskbar. set the option to Show if you want to see it withouth having to hover
[04:10] <aib> ubotu, i did the unlock command you suggested and now it's running out of control on the command line :(
[04:10] <Jucato> aib: ubotu is a bot
[04:10] <kimmern> jucato: thanks, that worked!
[04:10] <aib> that sucks
[04:10] <aib> perl warns on everything: "Setting locale failed"
[04:11] <aib> this is a brand new installation. why are there problems...:(
[04:11] <ricanelite> it didn't show up
[04:11] <gnomefreak> anyone remember the error installing frostwire on edgy?
[04:11] <gnomefreak> it was a ( error but what line?
[04:11] <Jucato> bash to dash lol :P
[04:11] <BluesKaj> yeah, livingdaylight...it's not a serious problem for sure , just annoying but it's enuff bother for me to try to slove it
[04:11] <gnomefreak> Jucato: need the wording
[04:11] <BluesKaj> solve
[04:12] <BluesKaj> BBL
[04:12] <Jucato> gnomefreak: no. I'm just laughing at the whole chaos the transition to DASH is causing :)
[04:12] <bertu> !ati
[04:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:13] <thyko> how do i install acrobat reader?
[04:13] <Emess> i like your taskbar ont eh side Jucato, i could never get superkaramba to work :(
[04:13] <wildchild> why is this flashplayer so pathetic...
[04:13] <ol1v3rw> thyko
[04:13] <ol1v3rw> you dont
[04:13] <Jucato> Emess: well, that ain't superkaramba anyway eheh :)
[04:13] <wildchild> I can hear voice only if I first stop amarok from playing..
[04:13] <wildchild> :S
[04:14] <ol1v3rw> you install epdf, kdpf, xpdf etc
[04:14] <Emess> oh i know, i jsut noticed you had it there lol
[04:14] <Jucato> ah yes. it was running something that I chose to hide for the screenshot lol
[04:14] <robin_> anyone know how to enable/disable adapt update notifier?
[04:14] <bertu> !universe
[04:14] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:14] <bertu> !multiverse
[04:14] <thyko> i do
[04:14] <Emess> also, no offense but your site layout sucks mightily lol
[04:14] <Jucato> robin_: um.. just a question. why?
[04:15] <bertu> how do i unlock unvierse and multiverse?
[04:15] <Jucato> Emess: :P
[04:15] <Jucato> bertu: follow that link above ^^^^
[04:15] <robin_> I disable it by misstake
[04:15] <robin_> I want it back
[04:16] <livingdaylight> BluesKaj: yea, screensaver is working here.
[04:16] <Jucato> robin_: check if adept_notifier is in /usr/share/autostart
[04:16] <livingdaylight> BluesKaj: have you tried others, or is it with all of them?
[04:16] <Jucato> robin_: adept_notifier_auto.desktop
[04:17] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how i can change konversation setting to tabs and not tree?
[04:17] <jhutchins> livingdaylight: put the tabs on top or bottom.
[04:17] <Jucato> livingdaylight: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Interface -> Tabs
[04:17] <Emess> Jucato: my desktop on dapper: http://www.deviantart.com/view/38171341/
[04:17] <robin_> got it working, i did a search for adept_notifier and started the app, it asked me if i wnted it to start the next time i log in, thx
[04:18] <Jucato> Emess: heh no wonder. a deviantartist :P
[04:18] <bertu> !ati
[04:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:18] <livingdaylight> thx, jhutchins, Jucato
[04:18] <Emess> lol
[04:18] <Emess> im good with photoshop
[04:19] <Jucato> Emess: I'm not. as my artwork would prove :P
[04:19] <jhutchins> livingdaylight: That view surprized me when I upgraded.
[04:19] <Emess> lol, my art was crap to begin with
[04:19] <Emess> still is really
[04:19] <Jucato> Emess: is that supposed to be the BSD mascot turned serious?
[04:19] <Emess> but i made an awesome popup terminal :)
[04:19] <Emess> yup :)
[04:20] <Jucato> Emess: where's the GNU mascot? that would have been awesome :)
[04:20] <bertu> !ati
[04:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:20] <Jucato> btw, I like the modified BSD character you made. reminds me of Daredevil though :P
[04:21] <Emess> lol, hardcore bull
[04:21] <Emess> http://www.linuxgangster.org/tux.gif <--lol, nto mine tho
[04:21] <Jucato> hehe
[04:24] <livingdaylight> Jucato: one of my desktop backgrounds: http://img308.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1zf1.png
[04:24] <bertu> how can i uninstall kubuntu?
[04:25] <bertu> ????????????????????
[04:25] <livingdaylight> jhutchins: yes, same here. And even though i was in settings/interface/tabs i still didn't get it untill you said it again. :p thx
[04:25] <Jucato> bertu: just overwrite it or reformat the partition that it is on
[04:25] <bertu> i tried but when i rebooted it had grub probs..i had to reinstll kubuntu again
[04:26] <xsacha> LOL
[04:26] <Jucato> bertu: GRUB was installed in the MBR of your hard disk, you need to overwrite that too, probably with the XP CD if you're going to run that again...
[04:26] <Jucato> livingdaylight: ah... so... default-y hehehe :)
[04:26] <xsacha> you could have just reinstalled bootloader
[04:27] <bertu> mbr?
[04:27] <xsacha> instead of whole OS
[04:27] <xsacha> master boot record
[04:27] <bertu> but how can i remove that?
[04:27] <xsacha> !mbr
[04:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:27] <livingdaylight> Jucato: hehehe...Om Shanti...should ship out with every os! default
[04:27] <Emess> Jucato: want more serious bsd? http://linuxgangster.org/forums/attachment.php?s=d09cfdc630c773793540117e3f1da35d&attachmentid=26&d=1127865701 NSFW
[04:27] <Jucato> livingdaylight: heheh :)
[04:27] <ricanelite> is there any plugins out there for me to get to play Mp4 movies files? Before I started using Edgy and when I had dapper running I remember installing a plugin that played my mp4 files perfect. What plugin is out there that I could use!
[04:27] <Jucato> Emess: pssst none of  those stuff in here please :P
[04:28] <Jucato> ricanelite: libxine-extracodecs? w32codecs?
[04:28] <Emess> livingdaylight: om shanti?
[04:28] <livingdaylight> Emess: yea :) http://img308.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1zf1.png
[04:29] <livingdaylight> Emess: sorry, of course you don't speak indian. Means Peace - Amen or something like that :)
[04:30] <Emess> wow, kicker crashed but loaded my new kmenu icon! woot!
[04:32] <bertu> !ati
[04:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:34] <wildchild> hello guys
[04:34] <wildchild> so version 6.10 is edguy
[04:34] <wildchild> !edgy
[04:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[04:34] <wildchild> i wanna install xgl
[04:35] <wildchild> do I have to do this manual
[04:35] <wildchild> or is this allready in repos ?
[04:35] <Hawkwind> !xgl | wildchild
[04:35] <ubotu> wildchild: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:35] <livingdaylight> is there such a thing as 'Add Applications' like in Ubuntu?
[04:36] <Jucato> livingdaylight: Add/Remove Programs?
[04:36] <livingdaylight> Jucato: yea!
[04:36] <Jucato> livingdaylight: there is.
[04:36] <FlameMaster> hey guys, which package install me libtcl on edgy?
[04:36] <Jucato> it's there in K Menu
[04:36] <livingdaylight> Jucato: cool, couldn't find it
[04:36] <FlameMaster> *installs
[04:36] <livingdaylight> Jucato: ok
[04:36] <Jucato> livingdaylight: just under Utilities
[04:38] <FlameMaster> hey guys, which package installs me libtcl on edgy?
[04:38] <Hawkwind> FlameMaster: No need to repeat yourself every 2 minutes.  apt-cache search libtcl
[04:38] <buff> hi there could anyone tell how to install gimp on edgy ?
[04:38] <FlameMaster> Hawkwind: because I got an answer :) Thanks
[04:38] <pupeno__> I was given the IP and port (and password) of a Windows box running some kind of remote connection, I tried krdc but it failed. Any idea how can I discover, from my Kubuntu box, what protocol it uses and how to connect to it ?
[04:38] <Hawkwind> buff: sudo apt-get install gimp  ?
[04:39] <gsuveg> yes.
[04:40] <FlameMaster> pupeno__: ssh is port 22, windows remote desktop is port 3390
[04:41] <mez> !ping
[04:41] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[04:41] <xsacha> !ping
[04:41] <pupeno__> FlameMaster: sorry, but that doesn't really help.
[04:41] <mez> xsacha: , I think it might be for ops only
[04:42] <xsacha> 0 ops in chan?
[04:42] <FlameMaster> pupeno__: tell him to call "netstat -ad" from the command line, and see which ports he has open, it has to be one of those
[04:42] <mez> xsacha: we dont use our @'s unless we need them
[04:42] <xsacha> i know, but how does it tell?
[04:42] <pupeno__> FlameMaster: I think you missed the point. I am trying to connect to a Windows box. I know the port, I don't know the protocol.
[04:43] <mez> ubotu is clever ;)
[04:43] <Hawkwind> Anyone can use !ping actually
[04:43] <xsacha> !ping mez
[04:43] <FlameMaster> pupeno__: RDP, I guess
[04:43] <FlameMaster> pupeno__: unless he is using some other program
[04:43] <Hawkwind> !repos > Hawkwind
[04:43] <Emess> anyone know how to get digikam to upload to photobucket?
[04:43] <Hawkwind> xsacha: Try just !ping
[04:43] <xsacha> i think it's just ubotu ignores it when 2 commands go in a row
[04:44] <xsacha> i did before Hawkwind
[04:44] <pupeno__> FlameMaster: I've tried krdc and it failed, it should have worked if it was RDP, should'n it ?
[04:44] <Hawkwind> xsacha: Try it now though
[04:44] <FlameMaster> pupeno__: why don't you ask him yourself? :P
[04:44] <xsacha> !ping
[04:44] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[04:45] <johan_> Can anyone help me install drivers for my craphics card?
[04:45] <Emess> !digikam
[04:45] <Hawkwind> trappist: <ubotu>To send answers to yourself, please use /msg instead of spamming the channel
[04:45] <ubotu> digikam: digital photo management application for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.8.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3501 kB, installed size 8832 kB
[04:45] <pupeno__> FlameMaster: because he left and he doesn't have a clue.
[04:45] <Hawkwind> trappist: I had to show you that, as you came to mind when I saw it :)
[04:45] <pupeno__> FlameMaster: anyway, it seems it is RDP. Thanks.
[04:45] <FlameMaster> pupeno__: "some kind of remote connection": it has to be either RDP, RDP thru SSH, or VNC. RDP=3390, SSH=22, VNC=I dunno
[04:46] <FlameMaster> pupeno__: "some kind of remote connection": if it's something else, then I don't know
[04:46] <FlameMaster> pupeno__: yeah you're welcome
[04:46] <pointwood> how do I make the adept updater start again?
[04:46] <mez> !ipv6 > mez
[04:47] <pupeno__> I get a failed connection. Well, nevermind.
[04:47] <buff> when i want to install smth with 'sudo apt-get install' command it always tells me to insert cd why ?
[04:48] <gnomefreak> buff: because you need to disable cdrom repo and enable the net repos
[04:48] <gnomefreak> !repos | buff
[04:48] <ubotu> buff: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:48] <johan_> please help me install drivers for graphics??
[04:49] <hammer> hi
[04:49] <buff> thanks a lot
[04:49] <hammer> i need to reinstall grub
[04:49] <alexicon> how do you recommend restarting x? just by logging out?
[04:49] <hammer> who can help me?
[04:50] <Emess> alexicon: ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:50] <Emess> restarts x
[04:50] <alexicon> cheers
[04:50] <hammer> F1!
[04:50] <kjelderg> it appears that kubuntu has a modified version of control centre.  How does one modify panels via kcontrol in kubuntu?
[04:50] <GK_Hakansson> Uptime: 1 days and 11 minutes
[04:51] <hammer> !grub
[04:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:51] <hammer> :-/
[04:51] <kjelderg> huh, it's completely different if I type kcontrol instead of clicking the button for it ...
[04:54] <davidenik> hi !
[05:00] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me with custom partitions?
[05:00] <markeib> hi! i just wanted to know how to update to edgy from dapper! :)
[05:01] <Emess> markeib: wait a week :P
[05:01] <JuJuBee> How do I set a part bootable if I manually edit the partitions during install?
[05:01] <markeib> why?
[05:01] <Emess> or maybe a bit longer, i ahd onyl minor problems and it took em 11 hours to fix lol
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> JuJuBee: edgy?
[05:01] <JuJuBee> Dapper
[05:02] <markeib> i thought it was rather stable now
[05:02] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, what do you want to do
[05:02] <Admiral_Chicago> markeib: gksu "update-manager -c"
[05:02] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc
[05:02] <Emess> but if you insist, theres a guide at http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade
[05:02] <Emess> update-manager doesnt work for kubuntu
[05:03] <JuJuBee> When I do a manual (to set custom parts) install and reboot, I had problems (wouldn't boot)
[05:03] <Admiral_Chicago> JuJuBee: does grub load?
[05:03] <markeib> hey now it works
[05:03] <JuJuBee> No
[05:03] <markeib> yesterday it didn't find some third party repository
[05:03] <JuJuBee> Tells me ther is no bootable device
[05:03] <hammer_> ping
[05:03] <Admiral_Chicago> so your grub didn't write the partition most likely
[05:03] <hammer_> !ping
[05:03] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[05:03] <hammer_> :(
[05:04] <JuJuBee> What do I do?
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> JuJuBee: did you do a checksum on the CD?
[05:04] <JuJuBee> I want to create several partitions for install of other linux's
[05:04] <JuJuBee> On the live CD, no.
[05:04] <markeib> good 2,5 hours to go
[05:04] <JuJuBee> IF I do a basic install (let the installer use the entire HD) it works fine.
[05:05] <hammer_> may i ask a question?
[05:06] <siefkencp> I cant seem to publicly open mysql -- does anyone know how to get it done?
[05:07] <GK_Hakansson> what is the command in konsole to mount a hard drive?
[05:07] <kjelderg> mount
[05:08] <siefkencp> Mysql? my port seems to be closed on my public interface
[05:08] <JuJuBee> Admiral_Chicago : dont see how to set bootable flag during install while creating custom parts.
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> JuJuBee: you'll have to give me a second or ask someone eles in the channel i'm working on some homework
[05:09] <MukiEX> How do I install mdnsresponder?
[05:09] <MukiEX> What package installs it?
[05:09] <JuJuBee> K
[05:09] <hammer_> lalala
[05:09] <MukiEX> ?
[05:10] <pretorian_> hi
[05:11] <siefkencp> hello
[05:11] <pretorian_> say is there anyone who knows how to get in on with ndiswrapper :)
[05:11] <siefkencp> i wish some one could help me open the port for mysql on my public interface
[05:11] <markeib> how can i make my windows appear in front of other windows when they are minimised and i click on them in the taskbar?
[05:12] <pretorian_> srr don't know much about mysql
[05:12] <siefkencp> its more the firewall i guess
[05:12] <siefkencp> i just need to be able to connect to mysql from a foreign box...
[05:12] <pretorian_> you need to know first wich port mysql is working on
[05:12] <siefkencp> i do
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> !info mdnsresponder > MukiEX
[05:12] <ubotu> Package mdnsresponder does not exist in any distro I know
[05:13] <test> how do I add a locale to my system?
[05:13] <Admiral_Chicago> MukiEX: do you have a link to the page?
[05:13] <pretorian_> are you working with a server of just a router?
[05:13] <Admiral_Chicago> mdnsresponder does not exist in any repo
[05:13] <siefkencp> 3306
[05:13] <hammer_> F1!
[05:14] <siefkencp> theres no router between the boxes
[05:14] <siefkencp> when i scan my loopback -- the port is open
[05:14] <siefkencp> when i scan my public address its not
[05:16] <hammer> how do i tell dpkg that i've manually downloaded freepats.TAR?
[05:17] <hammer> dpkg claims that it has unsatisfied dependencies
[05:17] <MukiEX> So there's no way to install mdnsresponder then?
[05:17] <siefkencp> you should be able to ignore dependancies
[05:18] <test> how do I add a locale to my system?
[05:18] <hammer> siefkencp: how?
[05:18] <MukiEX> !info rendezvous
[05:19] <MukiEX> http://www.edrayne.co.uk/2005/08/28/rendezvous-on-ubuntu-linux/
[05:19] <Smooph> !opie
[05:19] <MukiEX> A year ago we had MDNSResponder; was it replaced?
[05:19] <MukiEX> Sorry I took so long, Admiral_Chicago
[05:21] <siefkencp> Hammer: depends [!]  Turn all dependency problems into warnings
[05:21] <Admiral_Chicago> i see a mdns-scan
[05:21] <siefkencp> so it would be dpkg --force-depends [!] 
[05:22] <alexicon> uhih
[05:22] <MukiEX> Admiral_Chicago : Not sure it serves the same purpose. Trying to get Zeroconf working, actually.
[05:22] <alexicon> i get a kernel panic on boot
[05:22] <Admiral_Chicago> MukiEX: edgy?
[05:22] <siefkencp> Hammer: make sense?
[05:22] <alexicon> unable to mount root fs on unknown block
[05:22] <siefkencp> im affraid to upgrade to edgy...
[05:22] <MukiEX> Admiral_Chicago : yes =(
[05:22] <siefkencp> 1 problem then poof no more box
[05:23] <Admiral_Chicago> siefkencp: well dapper is LTS for that reason
[05:23] <hammer> siefkencp: wait a bit...
[05:24] <siefkencp> thank goodness... but it maybe mood point if I cant get mysql open on my public interface
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> MukiEX: hmm maybe look for the product pgae , i don't do much networking myself
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> back to work!
[05:26] <ubuntu_> Hello
[05:26] <ubuntu_> Wait no
[05:26] <siefkencp> wait yes
[05:27] <ubuntu_> There
[05:27] <ubuntu_> ...
[05:27] <ubuntu_> Rargh. I probably missing something
[05:29] <BlackBoe> Oh
[05:29] <BlackBoe> That`s what I was doing wrong
[05:30] <BlackBoe> Uh... So. Hello
[05:30] <siefkencp> feeling better now?
[05:31] <BlackBoe> Who
[05:31] <siefkencp> Im just joking around
[05:31] <BlackBoe> Oh. :P
[05:32] <BlackBoe> Yeah, I was just having a couple problems with the nickname
[05:32] <siefkencp> i still need to find some one who can help me with my MySQL difficulties
[05:32] <BlackBoe> I`m not very used to this
[05:32] <radius> anyone try kmess1.5.pre1 installed successfully?
[05:32] <BlackBoe> I need to find someone who can help me, period
[05:32] <Emess> siefkencp: teh slackare site has a nice thing on sql
[05:32] <BlackBoe> I mean, considering yesterday I was using windows.
[05:32] <Emess> BlackBoe: whats the problem?
[05:33] <BlackBoe> Oh, no real problem. Just general terror and confusion
[05:33] <Emess> edgy or dapper?
[05:33] <BlackBoe> Edgy
[05:33] <siefkencp> Emess: my problem is with connecting to mysql from another box
[05:33] <Emess> siefkencp: tried phpmyadmin?
[05:33] <siefkencp> its more of a ubuntu firewall? problem
[05:33] <siefkencp> yes,,,
[05:33] <siefkencp> that connects through the loopback
[05:33] <Emess> ubuntu has a firewall?
[05:33] <davidenik> see you to the community
[05:34] <siefkencp> i want to make a direct connection through a .net app im writing
[05:34] <Admiral_Chicago> BlackBoe: feel free to PM me
[05:34] <BlackBoe> Actually, this is the live-CD. It just finished installing again. (Actually for the second time, the first time I blew everything up) So... I`m just gonna restart now
[05:34] <siefkencp> apparently when i port scan only about 5 things come up
[05:34] <Emess> siefkencp:  no idea how you managed that, but id suggest reading up on iptables
[05:34] <Admiral_Chicago> with questions but i may take some time to get back to you as I am a student
[05:34] <BlackBoe> And Chicago: Thanks. (:P
[05:34] <siefkencp> been there -- done that
[05:35] <Emess> BlackBoe: imf ree to help for the next 20 minutes or so, pm me
[05:35] <siefkencp> apparently IPtables is not controlling the firewall
[05:35] <BlackBoe> Gonna restart now
[05:35] <Emess> ok, well if im on gimme a buzz for anything
[05:36] <BlackBoe> Actually, one question. My keyboard doesn`t work for the rest of the time Edgy is running if I don`t button-mash the keyboard
[05:36] <Emess> and if you get really desperate try talking tot eh ucc guys on austnet, they run the ubuntu mirrors for australia lol
[05:36] <reon> Where can I upload a file temp for 48hrs similair to pastebin ???
[05:36] <Emess> reon: megaupload?
[05:36] <Emess> im off to sleep, night y'all
[05:36] <BlackBoe> If I don`t do that just as it`s turning on, it doesn`t register that the keyboard exists. Which  means I end up giving myself carpal tunnel turning the caps lock  button on and off.
[05:37] <BlackBoe> Anyone got any ideas
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> BlackBoe: hmm sounds like an xkb problem
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> reboot and tell me whan happens on the actual system, not the live CD
[05:38] <BlackBoe> Oh, it`s the same with the system
[05:38] <BlackBoe> This is the second install
[05:38] <BlackBoe> The first one was yesterday, I blew it up by accident.
[05:39] <BlackBoe> :P
[05:39] <BlackBoe> Sure, gonna restart now, though
[05:39] <BlackBoe> Brb
[05:41] <systest> what's the command line util to tag packages for upgrade that are "deferred" e.g. kernels?
[05:42] <MukiEX> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu
[05:42] <MukiEX> WTF happened to MDNSResponder since?
[05:42] <MukiEX> !info mdns
[05:43] <ubotu> Package mdns does not exist in any distro I know
[05:43] <MukiEX> !info mdns-scan
[05:43] <ubotu> mdns-scan: Scan for mDNS/DNS-SD services published on the local network. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 68 kB
[05:43] <MukiEX> !info mdnsresponder
[05:43] <ubotu> Package mdnsresponder does not exist in any distro I know
[05:43] <MukiEX> Seriously, it was there in the alpha. Where is it now? ^_^
[05:46] <blackboe> And back
[05:47] <game_linux> hello folks
[05:47] <blackboe> If it took a little while, it's because I tried--just to see--
[05:47] <blackboe> Hello,  gamelinux
[05:47] <game_linux> someone plays with frozen-bubble?
[05:47] <blackboe> --Just to see--if the keyboard would work automatically
[05:47] <MukiEX> I can't even find the [explitve] -ing source for mdnsresponder, thanks to apple's dumb [explitive]  >_<
[05:48] <blackboe> No such luck, I had to reset the computer and do the 'press caps lock page lock and num lock on and off as fast as possible' schtick
[05:49] <gsuveg> Riddell: ping
[05:49] <blackboe> pong. :P
[05:49] <Ascareg> anybody using kcheckgmail?
[05:50] <RawSewageLT> I just have my email forwarded
[05:50] <RawSewageLT> Gmail forwarded to my KMail
[05:50] <blackboe> Hey, admiral chicago
[05:50] <blackboe> I'm running from linux proper, now
[05:50] <blackboe> It does the same thing
[05:50] <Ascareg> *nods* RawSewageLT... strange errors :-)
[05:52] <highvoltage> this is the first time that I join a IRC channel just to check the spelling of someone's nick :)
[05:53] <Tm_T> =)
[05:53] <bubu1uk> Anyone experienced problem with adept? I get error that other applicatio is using
[05:53] <bubu1uk> ops
[05:53] <Tm_T> highvoltage: So who's that lucky one?
[05:53] <bubu1uk> process is using package database
[05:53] <RawSewageLT> bubu1uk: try  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:54] <blackboe> ...
[05:54] <blackboe> How long have people here been using linux?
[05:54] <Tm_T> blackboe: Some years.
[05:55] <bubu1uk> RawSewageLT: dpkg says unknown option -o
[05:55] <blackboe> Hm.
[05:55] <highvoltage> Tm_T: Riddel l :)
[05:55] <piro> me couple days
[05:55] <iced-earth> one week
[05:55] <piro> :-)
[05:55] <highvoltage> Tm_T: but I put the space in there just so that I don't accidentally highlight him
[05:55] <blackboe> Oh, thank goodness
[05:55] <blackboe> I'm not completely alone
[05:55] <buff> how to create a *.txt file using terminal ?
[05:55] <blackboe> 1 day, for me
[05:55] <Tm_T> highvoltage: =)
[05:55] <Dr_willis> echo "hi mom" > foo.txt
[05:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:56] <buff> thanks
[05:56] <Dr_willis> time for some bash 101 :)
[05:56] <blackboe> w007
[05:56] <blackboe> Where do I get that? /:P
[05:56] <RawSewageLT> bubu1uk: -o ?
[05:56] <RawSewageLT> bubu1uk:   sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:56] <RawSewageLT> copy and paste
[05:57] <wildchild> does anyone here use automatix ?
[05:57] <bubu1uk> RawSewageLT: well that what was i wondering. as -cOnfigure? dunno if it reads it or what
[05:57] <wildchild> I wanna install nvidia drivers so I could get xgl working... and in automatix is an option to install NVIDIA driveres...
[05:57] <piro> wildchild me
[05:57] <Dr_willis> wildchild,  automatix is best avoided.
[05:57] <RawSewageLT> bubu1uk: copy and paste
[05:57] <Dr_willis> you can easially install them without automatix
[05:58] <Hawkwind> !automatix | wildchild
[05:58] <bubu1uk> RawSewageLT: ok. i put only one -
[05:58] <ubotu> wildchild: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[05:58] <bubu1uk> not - -
[05:58] <Hawkwind> wildchild: You really should read that
[05:58] <wildchild> I know
[05:58] <wildchild> what automatix is..
[05:58] <RawSewageLT> bubu1uk: ok
[05:58] <wildchild> I am asking
[05:58] <wildchild> what is better
[05:58] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:58] <wildchild> or install nvidia by automatix or manually ?
[05:58] <Hawkwind> wildchild: Read what it says.  It strongly discourages the use of automatix
[05:58] <Dr_willis> its about 4 min install to do it using the apt-get commands.
[05:59] <Hawkwind> wildchild: Use Adept or apt-get from the CLI since those work
[05:59] <Hawkwind> wildchild: Also, if you want XGL stuff, try talking to the experts in #Ubuntu-XGL
[05:59] <Dr_willis> I would REALLY avoide XGL for the time being. :)
[05:59] <wildchild> I am... no response yet :|
[05:59] <Hawkwind> wildchild: Forget about automatix, seriously
[05:59] <wildchild> ok ok :>
[05:59] <wildchild> I will..
[05:59] <wildchild> :)
[05:59] <Dr_willis> if you want to try the xgl eye candy - try a live cd that has it.. like Sabayon, or some others
[06:00] <Hawkwind> wildchild: Are you on Dapper or Edgy ?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> that way you dont trash your system, :)
[06:00] <blackboe> Hey, here's a question
[06:00] <Hawkwind> wildchild: I agree with Dr_willis whole heartedly.  But if you must try it on your actual system, use Beryl
[06:00] <blackboe> I probably sound pretty hopeless, but... The 3d sound only works for the for quad speakers.
[06:00] <wildchild> Hawkwind: Edgy since I have Linux umbrella 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:00] <blackboe> Where'd the base and the front speaker?
[06:01] <blackboe> It's just motherboard-based surround sound btw
[06:02] <blackboe> *base and front speaker go?
[06:02] <wildchild> Hawkwind: what's the difference Dapper vs. Edgy ?
[06:05] <Hawkwind> wildchild: Dapper is 6.06 and Edgy is the newest release of the distro, 6.10
[06:05] <gsuveg> buff: kate name.txt 
[06:05] <blackboe> Anyone?
[06:05] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: you fix your broken pacakages?
[06:06] <wildchild> Hawkwind: so I have edgy
[06:06] <game_linux> bye
[06:07] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: need some question about e
[06:07] <|lostbyte|> Know how to rip audio off a swf file ?
[06:07] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: need some answers from u i mean
[06:07] <wildchild> TheGateKeeper: I had to reboot kubuntu and type twice time: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:07] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: I can try, but best to ask in #E if at all possible
[06:08] <wildchild> Now everything works fine
[06:09] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: where did that command come from?
[06:09] <blackboe> Yeah. Well
[06:10] <wildchild> !adept crash fix | TheGateKeeper
[06:10] <ubotu> TheGateKeeper: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[06:10] <buff> "[17:48]  <ubotu> buff: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu" should i start X from the beggining ?
[06:10] <wildchild> well.. then must be on #ubuntu channel
[06:10] <buff> because it still requires to insert cd
[06:11] <wildchild> just lah..
[06:11] <wildchild> lag*
[06:11] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: ahhh
[06:12] <mo_> hi folks
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Ok.. lets see.. times changed this weekend in the usa.. so err... is my clock right or not on this pc. ;)
[06:13] <Hawkwind> bubu1uk: What are you trying to do ?
[06:13] <Dr_willis> what time is it eastern right now?
[06:13] <Hawkwind> Ermm, dang, I was way too late
[06:13] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: 12:13pm
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Hawkwind,  cool. the pc did change it.. or course if i boot back to windows - i bet windows changes it yet another hr. :)
[06:14] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: Don't boot to Windows.....easy fix :)
[06:14] <mo_> throw it overboard
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Hawkwind,  in our dreams.. :( actually i rarely boot to windows any more.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> lol
[06:15] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: I don't own Windows at all to reboot to :P
[06:15] <Dr_willis> Hawkwind,  ya mean you dont 'legally own' :) or dont 'possess'
[06:16] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: I don't possess Windows at all.  Haven't in 5+ years.  10 days after my first linux install(dual boot) I wiped it and reinstalled, and never touched Windows again
[06:16] <bubu1uk> Hawkind: nothing now. done it. tried to install some packages, but after running adept it gave me error that other process is using database
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Ive given out several linux cds to my friends at work.. and they always fall back on.. "how do i play everquest then?"  geshh....
[06:16] <Hawkwind> bubu1uk: Sorry, that wasn't for you.  Tab completion got the best of me :)
[06:17] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: I know someone who's been playing Everquest in Linux for many months now
[06:17] <bubu1uk> Hawkwind: no prob
[06:18] <vge> hey somebody can recommend a good GUI ftp program?
[06:18] <vge> gFTP has everything i need, but tends to crash
[06:18] <Hawkwind> vge: gftp, kbear, kftpgrabber
[06:19] <vge> while im on it, can you tell if i take connection with ssh in console
[06:20] <vge> and i want to transfer some local files to that server
[06:20] <vge> how i change the local folder?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Hawkwind,  i think everquest 'is' a problem. :)
[06:22] <vge> hmm, howcome i dont see kbear in the repos, i think i have deleted it in the past?
[06:23] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: don't discuss drugs in this chan
[06:23] <fdoving> vge: use fish:/hostname.example.com/path/to/directory in konqueror.
[06:24] <fdoving> vge: that is fish:// with two '/'es at the start.
[06:24] <vge> i need to connect two servers at the same time
[06:24] <wildchild> can someone tell why my update failed: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29390/
[06:24] <DaSkreech> How can I See messages at teh Usplash?
[06:26] <vigor> hi
[06:26] <vigor> i've got a problem with my kubuntu
[06:26] <sorush20> ktorrent keeps crashing on loading the data from scanning the folders..
[06:27] <feldegast> did ubuntuforums.org just die?
[06:29] <vge> Hawkwind: nice, kftpgrabbes seems perfect
[06:29] <nebi> help me please, i can conecct to wirreles from my centrino and kubuntu 6.10 , in kubuntu 6.06 any problem but i have a lot of problems for kubuntu 6.10 centrino
[06:30] <s0n1k> ola
[06:30] <gemidjy> look how gtk applications (amule, firefox, gimp) turn to be: http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3523/snapshot1ev1.png in Edgy...
[06:30] <gemidjy> (I use gtk-qt engine)
[06:30] <nebi>  help me please, i can conecct to wirreles from my centrino and kubuntu 6.10 , in kubuntu 6.06 any problem but i have a lot of problems for kubuntu 6.10 centrino
[06:32] <vigor> during boot i've got an error: can't access tty... help!
[06:32] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: did you do an upgrade or a fresh install?
[06:35] <segfault_> wildchild, looks like u failed to download package lists not failed to upgrade
[06:38] <gemidjy> how to remove gtk2-engines-qt without removing kubuntu-desktop ?
[06:39] <segfault_> gemidjy, i dontthink u can
[06:39] <trappist> gemidjy: kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage.  removing it won't hurt.
[06:39] <gemidjy> trappist: thanks
[06:40] <shadowhywind> i got my hibernate working!!!!!
[06:40] <ypsila> good evening
[06:42] <ypsila> someone from switzerland here?
[06:43] <shadowhywind> nope hehe
[06:45] <donvito> well
[06:45] <donvito> i just installed kubuntu on my p2 machine with 400 mhz
[06:45] <donvito> but i cant configure my d-link router
[06:46] <donvito> any help
[06:46] <shadowhywind> what do you mean you can't configure
[06:46] <donvito> well
[06:46] <donvito> i dont have internet connection
[06:46] <donvito> to get internet connection on my pc
[06:46] <donvito> always im doing a dial to my router
[06:47] <donvito> there in kubuntu have no option for that
[06:47] <donvito> im using broadband internet
[06:47] <shadowhywind> wireless or ethernet?
[06:48] <[GuS] > Hi people.. how can i fix locale problems? i tried many times and always i got this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/229402
[06:48] <vigor> try to reconfigure your router to DHCP maybe...
[06:48] <[GuS] > using Kubuntu Edgy..
[06:48] <donvito> ethernet shadowhywind
[06:49] <nightwolf> hola
[06:49] <nightwolf> alguien que hable espaol?
[06:49] <shadowhywind> when you type ifconfig what do you get back for eth0?
[06:49] <donvito> the config
[06:49] <donvito> :)
[06:50] <shadowhywind> as in are you getting an IP or no
[06:50] <donvito> no no
[06:50] <[GuS] > nightwolf, #kubuntu-es
[06:50] <shadowhywind> what you could do, what i have to do with my wireless with a belkin router
[06:50] <nightwolf> thank you GUS
[06:51] <shadowhywind> go into system settings -> network settings
[06:51] <donvito> than
[06:51] <shadowhywind> does eth0 have an IP there, and is protocol dhcp? and the state?
[06:51] <donvito> 192.168.1.1
[06:51] <SHRIKEE> your router prolly has tha IP already
[06:52] <SHRIKEE> *that
[06:52] <shadowhywind> what bout the protocol? dhcp or manual?
[06:53] <SHRIKEE> heh, i took my laptop with kubuntu to school today, now like 5 guys from my class are gonna install it too :o
[06:53] <donvito> well
[06:53] <SHRIKEE> copycats
[06:53] <ezu5t> just upgraded to edgy firefox 2.0 and https:// stopped working. anyone know how to get it working again? "Firefox doesn't know how to communicate with the server. Check to make sure your system has the Personal Security Manager installed".
[06:53] <foodcoman> I have an Nvidia 6200 that is connected to a Dell Panel via DVI.  X will not give me any video.  =(
[06:53] <shadowhywind> congrats SHrikee!!!!
[06:53] <SHRIKEE> lol
[06:53] <foodcoman> Sorry Fresh Edgy install
[06:53] <SHRIKEE> ezu5t: https works for me :) maybe a reinstall of firefox helps
[06:53] <SHRIKEE> you can do that from adept
[06:54] <shadowhywind> ezu5t try to connect to www.google.com from konquorer
[06:54] <shadowhywind> never mind, i am crazy
[06:54] <ezu5t> konqueror works fine with https, shadowwhywind
[06:54] <SHRIKEE> ezu, try a reinstall of firefox
[06:54] <foodcoman> Do I need to edit an X config file and put a more compatible driver entry?
[06:55] <shadowhywind> foodcoman, laptop?
[06:55] <foodcoman> shadowhywind: Desktop
[06:55] <donvito> shadowhywind the problem is that in my dlink router
[06:55] <donvito> im dialing to get internet on my desktop
[06:55] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: HI ya
[06:55] <donvito> and in linux there is not that option
[06:55] <SHRIKEE> foodcoman, maybe you need to select another monitor, like montitor output 2?
[06:56] <nikkiana> hi DaSkreech
[06:56] <SHRIKEE> not sure how it works in linux tho...
[06:56] <nightwolf> hello for everybody
[06:56] <foodcoman> shadowhywind: Breezy was great.  Edgy doesnt like video with Base install.  What config file from recovery mode would I edit?
[06:56] <shadowhywind> donvito can i was why are you using dialup, if you are connecting to a broadband router?
[06:57] <SHRIKEE> busted!
[06:57] <foodcoman> SHRIKEE: I would have to edit a config file?
[06:57] <SHRIKEE> no foodcoman, at display settings you can select a monitor
[06:57] <SHRIKEE> but im not sure if it will solve anything
[06:57] <shadowhywind> foodcoman first off, is anything being displayed on the monitor
[06:57] <donvito> shadowhywind my company whant that
[06:57] <shadowhywind> aka, is the monitor at least no in sleep mode?
[06:57] <SHRIKEE> but donvito. a broadband router doesnt work with dialup
[06:57] <donvito> u are not understanding me
[06:58] <donvito> im not using dial up with the modem
[06:58] <foodcoman> shadowhywind: Only during post, once X normally would come up ...Blank Black nothing.
[06:58] <SHRIKEE> ...
[06:58] <ezu5t> SHRIKEE: reinstalled firefox, that didn't help. Created a new profile. That did. Something in my old profile isn't liked by new firefox.
[06:58] <shadowhywind> foodcoman i take it your on a different computer? or are you duel-monitor'ing?
[06:59] <SHRIKEE> ok, ezu5t, so its fixed?
[06:59] <SHRIKEE> strange though, i just tried. and https works for me
[06:59] <ezu5t> fixable. curious to know specifically what setting is causing the problem.
[06:59] <SHRIKEE> without any changes
[06:59] <shadowhywind> it might have been a plugin
[06:59] <SHRIKEE> allthought when i first started ff it did run some wizard
[06:59] <SHRIKEE> as if it was importing stuff
[06:59] <foodcoman> shadowhywind: Single Video card, single LCD using DVI.
[07:00] <shadowhywind> what happens if you try to bootup without X? does that display on the monitor?
[07:00] <foodcoman> shadowhywind: Yes on my laptop running Edgy just fine.  Just trying to get my Desktop straight.
[07:01] <SHRIKEE> foodcoman, does it work if you use the standard vga port?
[07:01] <foodcoman> SHRIKEE: No
[07:01] <shadowhywind> aka ctrl+alt+3
[07:01] <SHRIKEE> so we can assume its a driver problem then?
[07:01] <SHRIKEE> :)
[07:01] <kraut> could anybody apply, that xmms-itouch is broken in edgy?
[07:02] <foodcoman> shadowhywind: What is the X config file?  Shrikee?
[07:02] <SHRIKEE> no idea :o
[07:02] <SHRIKEE> im fairly new to kubuntu myself :)
[07:02] <shadowhywind> you mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:02] <shadowhywind> foodcoman are you typing startx and it just goes blank?
[07:03] <ypsila> keins:  are you german?
[07:03] <FlameMaster> hey guys how do I type a tilde?
[07:03] <shadowhywind> and the command i suggested earlyer, i meant ctrl+alt+ f3
[07:03] <SHRIKEE> ``
[07:04] <shadowhywind> shift(key above tab)
[07:04] <SHRIKEE> `
[07:04] <SHRIKEE> no shift
[07:04] <ypsila> FlameMaster: Alt Gr + <+>
[07:04] <shadowhywind> ~
[07:04] <shadowhywind> what is ~ then?
[07:04] <SHRIKEE> ah yes im messing them up, sorry :P
[07:04] <FlameMaster> I have a spanish keyboard :(
[07:04] <FlameMaster> shadowhywind: yep that's a tilde
[07:04] <ypsila> FlameMaster: uhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:04] <shadowhywind> in that case what is ` then? lol
[07:05] <FlameMaster> shadowhywind: I'll just copy and paste from here then :)
[07:05] <ypsila> n accent
[07:05] <shadowhywind> ah hehe
[07:05] <SHRIKEE> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Keyboard_layouts_for_Roman_script
[07:05] <SHRIKEE> look there, FlameMaster
[07:05] <FlameMaster> SHRIKEE: I'm on it
[07:06] <SHRIKEE> hmm no spanish one listed :(
[07:06] <FlameMaster> yeah :S
[07:06] <SHRIKEE> my m8 has a german one, its terrible if youre used to us-intl
[07:07] <ypsila> SHRIKEE:  not as bad as a french one :-)
[07:08] <SHRIKEE> i actually adapted quite fast to the french azerty
[07:08] <etihwnad> how do I start KDE's "Run Command" dialog from the command line?  (for use with xfce)
[07:08] <SHRIKEE> took me less then 10 minutes to get it right
[07:08] <FlameMaster> etihwnad: alt+f2
[07:08] <FlameMaster> etihwnad: oh command line :S
[07:08] <FlameMaster> sorry
[07:08] <felixjet_> how i can dissable katapult?
[07:09] <ypsila> SHRIKEE: not so easy when you are used to type without looking on the keyboard
[07:09] <SHRIKEE> haha i never look at my keyboard
[07:09] <shadowhywind> why need to start the KDE run command, if your allready in acommandline?
[07:09] <SHRIKEE> i was like 'wtf' for 10 minutes
[07:09] <SHRIKEE> but its easy
[07:09] <ypsila> SHRIKEE: but I had to type in french as well
[07:09] <SHRIKEE> dvorak is worse :(
[07:09] <shadowhywind> you know semi-helping others is anice way to ignore doing homework..
[07:09] <SHRIKEE> oh thats hard yes
[07:09] <SHRIKEE> i tytped english ;)
[07:10] <SHRIKEE> and dutch
[07:10] <ypsila> I was in France and so I had to type in french :-(
[07:10] <SHRIKEE> heh
[07:10] <etihwnad> shadowhywind: I want access to the minicli when using xfce instead of kde, instead of running xfrun4
[07:10] <SHRIKEE> i dont know french ;)
[07:10] <vge> should i be able to connect to ssh and ftp site and transfer from one to another, as it seems to hang all programs i try? :)
[07:11] <SHRIKEE> vge just use konqueror
[07:11] <FlameMaster> is there a way to directly type the ascii code on linux? as in alt+??? on windows?
[07:11] <ypsila> SHRIKEE: I even lived there, but that time I had my good old german keyboard with me
[07:11] <donvito> does kubuntu support eggdrop?
[07:11] <vigor> once again: during boot i've got an error: can't access tty... help!
[07:11] <SHRIKEE> type like ssh://usrname@ipaddress:port
[07:11] <donvito> because i got some problems with tcl and libc
[07:11] <SHRIKEE> heh ypsila
[07:12] <vge> SHRIKEE: well, can i if want directly transfer from one location to another, seems to crash kFTPgrabber
[07:12] <vge> and gFTP
[07:12] <SHRIKEE> yes, but konqueror wont, vge
[07:12] <FlameMaster> is there a way to directly type the ascii code on linux? as in alt+??? on windows?
[07:12] <SHRIKEE> i did that a few days ago
[07:12] <SHRIKEE> from ftp on the net to ssh on my lan
[07:13] <vge> ill give it a shot
[07:13] <SHRIKEE> FlameMaster: try using a us-intl keyboard?
[07:13] <donvito> dead anyone readed me?
[07:13] <tsdgeos> [19:11]  <donvito> because i got some problems with tcl and libc
[07:13] <FlameMaster> SHRIKEE: no way I'm too accostumed to this one :S
[07:13] <SHRIKEE> also, vge, if you use konqueror. you dont need the external programs :) which i think is a nice thing
[07:14] <FlameMaster> SHRIKEE: is there a way or not? I might just switch back to windoze just because of that :P
[07:14] <SHRIKEE> i dunno, i always used us-intl
[07:14] <SHRIKEE> which support the shift <key> thing
[07:14] <vigor> donvito: i've got the same problem ;] 
[07:14] <FlameMaster> what if you wanted to type a beta? (ascii 225)
[07:14] <SHRIKEE> isnt the tilde next to the right shift key?
[07:15] <shadowhywind> tilde (above tab)
[07:15] <SHRIKEE> i mean, if youre used to it you should know where its at, right?
[07:15] <crrj> Tilde moves around depending on the keyboard
[07:15] <SHRIKEE> :D
[07:15] <FlameMaster> nvm I found it on sp-intl
[07:15] <SHRIKEE> hah ok
[07:15] <FlameMaster> alt gr + <4>
[07:15] <SHRIKEE> 
[07:16] <FlameMaster> now I just need to find how to type a star...
[07:16] <SHRIKEE> *
[07:16] <SHRIKEE> shift 8
[07:16] <SHRIKEE> :P
[07:16] <FlameMaster> not that one, the five legged one that most kids draw all the time
[07:16] <donvito> vigor did u fixed the problem?
[07:17] <vigor> no
[07:17] <Alo> hello
[07:17] <SHRIKEE> FlameMaster: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75724.html
[07:18] <Alo> can somebody help me with downloaded aps?
[07:18] <donvito> well someone need to help us
[07:18] <donvito> about that problem
[07:18] <vigor> i installed kubuntu yesterday, and since yesterday night i cant boot it :D
[07:18] <alek> flamemaster from Alexandria?
[07:19] <Alo> cual es el salon donde se habla espanol?
[07:19] <vigor> Alo: #kubuntu-es
[07:19] <ypsila> Alo: #kubuntu-es
[07:19] <vigor> ;] 
[07:19] <Alo> thank you
[07:20] <ypsila> np
[07:20] <donvito> macedonian?
[07:20] <ypsila> vigor: was faster
[07:20] <Kiongku> hmm
[07:21] <hammer> please help me
[07:21] <SHRIKEE> hammer, with?
[07:21] <hammer> i've installed freepats (midi) manually
[07:22] <hammer> and now apt-get complains it has unsatisfied deps
[07:22] <jose> hi all
[07:22] <ypsila> moin
[07:22] <hammer> every time i try to install packages
[07:22] <jose> is there anyone that could help me with 915resolution?
[07:22] <ypsila> jose: you too might be interested in #kubuntu-es
[07:22] <jose> thanks ypsilla:D
[07:22] <ypsila> ;-)
[07:23] <felixjet_> how i can dissable katapult?
[07:23] <hammer> !ru
[07:23] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[07:24] <vigor> !pl ?
[07:24] <vigor> ;] 
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pl ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <pacman> does anyone know if Flash 8 is available for Linux?
[07:25] <felixjet_> pacman try via crossover
[07:25] <felixjet_> !crossover
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <felixjet_> !codeweavers
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codeweavers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <felixjet_> .. xd
[07:26] <hammer> ping
[07:26] <v3ctor> pong
[07:26] <felixjet_> lol
[07:26] <salvador> hallo everybody from italy
[07:27] <hammer> =(
[07:27] <salvador> it is my first time here in irc
[07:27] <salvador> someone can help me?
[07:28] <shadowhywind> 1) never ask to ask a question, just state your problem, *smiles*
[07:28] <felixjet_> salvador: someone will help you when u ask for something :)
[07:28] <hammer> not true :(
[07:28] <vigor> i asked, and noone helped me :D
[07:28] <hammer> and me too
[07:28] <omicron> hi there. can anyone help me to get an us keyboard working with the alt-intl optio so that i can compose umlauts on an us keyboard? i am using kubuntu edgy eft..
[07:28] <ypsila> vigor: because no one had an answer?
[07:28] <shadowhywind> and 2) be patinent, it might take a little bit to answer some times
[07:29] <vigor> ;)
[07:29] <salvador> ok. sorry. i need to see the toolbar of the window but i dont know how can i do it
[07:29] <ypsila> omicron: husch mal auf #kubuntu-de
[07:29] <shadowhywind> salvador thats easy
[07:30] <salvador> maebe for you  but i am a really noob:-D
[07:30] <shadowhywind> salvador , alt+ f3 -> advance ->no border
[07:31] <salvador> exatly the other option. i need to see the toolbar
[07:31] <shadowhywind> is it just one program or all programs?
[07:32] <salvador> shadowhywind: i have only this program. is my first application in irc
[07:33] <shadowhywind> ok, go to Settings -> show toolbar
[07:33] <clyrrad> Can somebody please help me to fix this error "could not open default font 'fixed'" I get that in the logs every time I try to run vncserver
[07:34] <salvador> shadowhywind: i dont have the toolbar in which i can change my settings, it is going away
[07:34] <clyrrad> hey Dr_willis
[07:35] <Kiongku> !flash9
[07:35] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[07:35] <shadowhywind> ok sense i am confused, what exactly is missing? like File Edit that stuf?
[07:35] <Dr_willis> moo!
[07:36] <salvador> the toolbar is missing. i dont know how i can reset it to showing the options
[07:36] <BluesKaj> how now brown cow ?
[07:37] <foodcoman> shadowhywind: Sorry for the delay.  Not typing.  Blank all the time like video driver is not supported.  Black when normally I would need to log in.  No pointer with Watch Loading X.
[07:37] <BluesKaj> what's noo with yoo?
[07:37] <shadowhywind> foodcoman did you try ctrl+alt+f3
[07:38] <foodcoman> shadowhywind: Will do.
[07:42] <jagshemash> hi all, i upgraded to kubuntu 6.10 and now X doesn't work
[07:42] <shadowhywind> nvidia and error no screens found?
[07:42] <sredna> Kdesktop is icon-less when I login since some days, I get a dialog saying "kio error: The file protocol died unexpectedly"
[07:42] <sredna> Is that common?
[07:43] <jagshemash> the exact error i get is this
[07:43] <jagshemash> xinit:  Server error.
[07:43] <shadowhywind> !patebin
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <shadowhywind> why does that neverwork for me?!?!?!?!?!*
[07:44] <shadowhywind> !pastebin
[07:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:44] <shadowhywind> jagshemash copy your log and paste it there and return with the ling
[07:44] <shadowhywind> link*
[07:44] <shadowhywind> <---- CAN"T TYPE !
[07:44] <jagshemash> shadowhywind: i don't see Xorg.0.log in /var/log
[07:44] <Kiongku> hey ppl is java installed by default in edgy?
[07:45] <Kiongku> !java
[07:45] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:45] <Kiongku> seems not.. o.O?..
[07:45] <shadowhywind> there should be a log.. hehe even if X starts there is a log
[07:45] <jagshemash> ah, that was damn lame
[07:45] <jagshemash> i have to update kubuntu-desktop as well
[07:45] <jagshemash> never mind, sorry for wasting your time
[07:45] <shadowhywind> lol
[07:47] <d> How do I turn off the screen lock password after hibernate under kubuntu edgy?
[07:51] <d> How do I turn off the screen lock password which appears after resuming from hibernate under kubuntu edgy?
[07:51] <barros> hi.. How do I enable spellchecker in OpenOffice??? I'm using kubuntu 6.06
[07:52] <mulder> Hello all
[07:52] <shadowhywind> should be turned on allready
[07:53] <barros> shadowhywind: Yes, it should, but its is not.. when I click check spell I get a messages saying everything is fine, but I know it is not..
[07:53] <mefisto__> barros: do you need a different language dictionary?
[07:54] <barros> mefisto__: yes, but even the default one (english) is not working
[07:54] <shadowhywind> that is an idea
[07:54] <leofender> hi
[07:54] <leofender> HOla!
[07:55] <barros> shadowhywind: that is strange.. I googled about this but found nothing..
[07:55] <shadowhywind> ok barros, check these settings out
[07:55] <shadowhywind> open a openoffice , new
[07:55] <mefisto__> look in tools > options > language settings > languages
[07:55] <djmdave> I've got one quick question: does anyone know if dapper will receive KDE 3.5.x updates, amarok updates, koffice updates etc? Edgy has got a repository for the new amarok release @ http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144/ but no dapper repo (yet)
[07:55] <shadowhywind> just randomly type something, like asdadasd
[07:56] <shadowhywind> do a spellcheck, and go to options, from the spellcheck box
[07:56] <barros> shadowhywind: I've just got it to work.. It was pointing to English Ausrtralian dictionary.. but now I want to use PT_BR dict..
[07:56] <shadowhywind> hehe, i have no clue how to point it to something else, hehe
[07:56] <d> How do ozzies spell colour?
[07:57] <mefisto__> under "default languages for documents" choose one with the spellcheck symbol next to it
[07:57] <shadowhywind> and thinking about pointing, i must point my self to class. Good luck all
[07:57] <barros> mefisto__: yes.. i've done that, but didnt work.. I notices a spell symbol before the English USA name, but none before ptbr
[07:58] <mefisto__> you need to download the dictionary
[07:58] <mefisto__> file > wizards > install new dictionary
[07:58] <barros> mefisto__: hmm, I'll check it out
[07:59] <mefisto__> follow the wizard
[07:59] <mefisto__> then shutdown and restart openoffice, and select the dictionary you want
[08:00] <mefisto__> what language is PT_BR?
[08:00] <myky> hi speak someona czech or slovak
[08:00] <barros> mefisto__: portuguese, brazil
[08:00] <mulder> ok guys stupid but honest question. How do you apply a new theme?
[08:00] <mefisto__> ok
[08:01] <gsuveg> mulder: within system settings ?
[08:01] <djmdave> mulder:kmenu > system settings > appearance
[08:01] <mini_g> !adept crash
[08:01] <pipak> hello, I have a question that you might think is weird, but is there a way to install kubuntu booting from a floppy and then using stored data on a usb key? :)
[08:02] <mulder> yeah ok I know that. But do you have to download the them and then run it?
[08:02] <xst> I just upgraded from kubuntu dapper to edgy and suddenly the 3D viewport in blender (a 3d-application) is extremely slow. Has anyone experienced this problem too?
[08:02] <barros> mefisto__: installed the new dict with that wizard, but didnt work! :(
[08:02] <mulder> I am on kde look.org and there are a lot of nice themes that I would love to install
[08:02] <barros> mefisto__: should I run it with root privs?
[08:02] <djmdave> you either need to compile them from source of find a kubuntu .deb
[08:02] <mefisto__> barros: did you restart openoffice?
[08:03] <barros> mefisto__: yeah
[08:03] <mulder> it can be done automatically now in edgy right?
[08:03] <mefisto__> so still no spell symbol?
[08:04] <barros> mefisto__: nope.. It asked me to upgrade, I answered NO..
[08:04] <mefisto__> ok, you should upgrade. it will download a new version of the wizard
[08:05] <mefisto__> 1.6.2 is the version it downloaded for me, I think
[08:05] <barros> mefisto__: hmm, When I answer OK, i get and error.. :((
[08:05] <djmdave> mulder: if you've got an edgy .deb file for the widget style or window decoration, then yes. If not, then unfortunately you'll need to compile it
[08:06] <mulder> I have one on my desktop Dave
[08:06] <mefisto__> barros: I got that too, but on the 2nd try it worked
[08:06] <barros> mefisto__: ok. will try
[08:06] <mulder> a .deb file that is
[08:06] <djmdave> open a konsole window and cd to your desktop
[08:07] <mulder> cd?
[08:07] <djmdave> cd is the command to change directories in the terminal
[08:08] <djmdave> so to change to your desktop you'd do cd ~/Desktop
[08:08] <mulder> ok I open a konsole and after what? Sorry I am new to this...
[08:08] <__osh__> can any of you play this one in konqueror? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4581508829597815922
[08:08] <djmdave> thats ok :)
[08:08] <mulder> ok konsole open
[08:09] <djmdave> type cd ~/Desktop
[08:09] <mulder> ~/Desktop$ this is what I have now
[08:10] <djmdave> ok now type ls                 what do you see?
[08:10] <mulder> Is like that?
[08:10] <mulder> just Is?
[08:10] <djmdave> yep
[08:10] <barros> mefisto__: yeah, It worked now..
[08:10] <mulder> command not found
[08:10] <mefisto__> barros: great!
[08:11] <barros> mefisto__: but there is one more doubt: the default language for documents defaults to English (Australian).. I have to change it everytime
[08:11] <djmdave> ls as in the letters L and S in LiSt,  -- it shows you the contents of a folder
[08:12] <mefisto__> barros: is your system locale set to australia?
[08:12] <barros> I dont think so, but will check it!
[08:12] <mulder> bash: Is: command not found is what It shows
[08:12] <mefisto__> barros: are you in australia?
[08:12] <VR^> how can i install msttcorefonts in edgy? i enabled all repos, but the package isnt there.
[08:13] <dalbirdy> can someone help me to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[08:13] <barros> mefisto__: nope, I'm in Brazil, but I like to use English in my OS..
[08:13] <djmdave> weird.. try again
[08:13] <mulder> just Is right?
[08:13] <barros> mefisto__: strange.. my locale is set to en_AU... hehe
[08:13] <barros> mefisto__: where I xchange it?
[08:14] <dalbirdy> can someone help me to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[08:14] <mulder> command not found...crap!
[08:14] <gsuveg> dalbirdy: did you read related documents ?
[08:14] <DaSkreech> felixjet: kill katapult
[08:14] <dalbirdy> im looking for them now....you got the link?
[08:15] <felixjet> DaSkreech: i did apt-get remove katapult xD
[08:15] <felixjet> i was asking about dissable the process from loading at startup
[08:15] <djmdave> erm... thats messed up! try closing konsole and opening it again
[08:15] <gemidjy> why the splash screens of GIMP and OO.org in Edgy are their default ones, Dapper's were great
[08:15] <barros> mefisto__: I think it is setup in /etc/environment.. I'll change it to en_US
[08:16] <mulder> isnt there something to install the deb file directly from the desktop?
[08:16] <barros> mefisto__: and reboot.. thanks for you help man!!!
[08:17] <mefisto__> no problem
[08:17] <djmdave> there is if you right click on the .deb file, but I always have more luck installing from the command line
[08:17] <drbeams> i need java in konq and firefox
[08:17] <mulder> yeah it doesn't work with the right click
[08:18] <djmdave> what does it say if you try and install with the right-click menu
[08:18] <Eeyore_Jr> !java
[08:18] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:19] <DaSkreech> felixjet: Just kill it and logout
[08:19] <DaSkreech>  then it won't startup when you log in
[08:19] <DaSkreech> felixjet: I did it once. annoyed teh dickens out of me
[08:19] <mulder> basically it opens a little windows saying loading and unpacking. Then ask to exit
[08:20] <djmdave> so it dosen't show any errors before exiting?
[08:20] <DaSkreech> Though if you are not going to use it apr-get remove works :)
[08:20] <mulder> nope
[08:20] <felixjet> DaSkreech:  ty, for the next time i need dissable a program i know how without uninstalling it XD
[08:20] <djmdave> and your theme dosen't show up in system settings
[08:20] <mulder> nope
[08:20] <mulder> that is why it is bugging me
[08:21] <VR^> how can i install msttcorefonts in edgy? i enabled all repos, but the package isnt there.
[08:21] <DaSkreech> felixjet: well very few things start at startup :) You can just turn off sessions if you want a clean slate each time
[08:21] <djmdave> what theme is it, because I've had a very simmilar problem with qtcurve or something like that
[08:22] <mulder> Polyester them from Kde-look.org
[08:23] <djmdave> hold on, i'll have a look because i'm using polyester at the moment (from kde-look) ant its fine...
[08:23] <mulder> ok
[08:24] <Kiongku> !msttcorefonts
[08:24] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[08:24] <Kiongku> VR^: u need to manually add multiverse repos. its not written by default
[08:24] <djmdave> mulder: was this the page you used? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=41113
[08:25] <VR^> Kiongku: do i do that through adept?
[08:25] <mulder> nope this one http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=27968
[08:26] <Kiongku> VR^: u can
[08:27] <Kiongku> VR^: u know how?
[08:27] <VR^> Kiongku: yes, i just dont know the "url"
[08:27] <Kiongku> the url is the same as the normal
[08:28] <Kiongku> except that it has the section multiverse added
[08:28] <VR^> i uncommented everything in sources.list
[08:28] <mulder> When I try to install it from system settings/appearance it says: this file is not a valid icon them archive
[08:28] <Kiongku> VR^: paste bin ur source
[08:29] <VR^> Kiongku: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29416/
[08:29] <mulder> Dave it says the same with both themes by the way
[08:30] <djmdave> You've confused me now ;-). Are you using the icon settings and then clicking "install new theme"?
[08:30] <rag> hello friends
[08:30] <rag> how to install kubuntu on celeron
[08:30] <Kiongku> VR^: here the correction. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29417/ its very simple see for yourself
[08:31] <sredna> Why is apt-get electing not to upgrade some packages?
[08:31] <CVirus> sredna: after the upgrade to edgy ?
[08:31] <sredna> CVirus: Yes
[08:31] <mulder> Ahhhh confusion! :-) Basically I try to install from system settings but it gives me the archive message thingy
[08:31] <VR^> Kiongku: thanks
[08:31] <CVirus> sredna: sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade|grep ^' '|xargs apt-get -y install
[08:32] <Kiongku> VR^: yw
[08:32] <alex_> does anyone know why i wouldn't have the X include files on edgy?
[08:32] <pekka_> hello there :-)  im having again (last time when i upgraded to kubuntu 5.10) the "database locked - adept manager" and i don't remember how to fix that
[08:32] <mulder> or if I use the kubuntu package menu...it opens the files, seems to unpack it and stuff...but nothing happens and shows after in the themes list
[08:32] <stefano> someone can help me about reading/witing ntfs from kubuntu?
[08:33] <stefano> i tried to instal lib-ntfs5 and others but nothing
[08:33] <sredna> CVirus: Thank you
[08:34] <The_Croup> CVirus how come you named yourself from a 1990 virus
[08:35] <sredna> Next q: Does anyone know it the strigi package maintainer will provide a package with inotify disabled? The current strigi package is kinda useless.
[08:35] <zorglu_> sredna: what make it useless ?
[08:35] <spiderworm> hi, this path is apparently invalid: http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz .... are there no kde 3.5 packages for edgy?
[08:35] <sredna> zorglu_: That it does not work
[08:35] <djmdave> and you've done a right-click -> kubuntu package menu install on the file from the link I gave you as well? (this one: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=41113 )
[08:35] <mzelem> I tried to install jedit in edgy using the directions at ubuntuguide.org but it had errors installing and now I can't uninstall it and if I use apt-get I can't install anything else because it says I have to re-install jedit but I can't re-install jedit because it won't install
[08:36] <mzelem> could someone help me with that please?
[08:36] <zorglu_> sredna: hehe that's pretty useless indead :)
[08:36] <cga> hi all =) && i installed flubox, will kdm recognise it by default or i need to make the  fluxbox.desktop file?
[08:36] <sredna> zorglu_: It becomes overwhelmimgly slow, it takes > 2 hrs just to count files here
[08:36] <zorglu_> sredna: not that i dont think the strigi author is the kind of guy to release stuff which plainly doesnt work
[08:37] <sredna> zorglu_: According to the kde-apps.org page, it is a bug, and the temporary fix is to disable inotify in strigi.
[08:37] <zorglu_> sredna: oh you meant this is too slow
[08:37] <sredna> zorglu_: I mean it is so slow that it does not work
[08:37] <zorglu_> ok
[08:38] <MHazem> sredna: no problem
[08:38] <sredna> Though not using inotify kinda disqualifies it too, but at least you can get a usable index
[08:38] <mulder> Can I show you what it says somewhere Dave?
[08:41] <djmdave> mulder: I think you're supposed to use this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ but I'm not sure what happens when you do. (I'm new to this IRC stuff)
[08:42] <ulaas> somebody help me stop the window launch and close sound events.
[08:43] <dom> hey folks, my workstation didn't make the transition to daylight savings time.  what do I do?
[08:43] <spiderworm> ulaas: um it should be in the control panel somewhere, sorry i dont know exactly where
[08:44] <sredna> ulaas: Go to the system notifications control module
[08:44] <clyrrad> Guys is there a way to install kubuntu with out having the live CD Load?
[08:44] <ulaas> sredna: i did mate
[08:44] <clyrrad> is there a way to just tell it install via some swith with the F6 option?
[08:44] <sredna> ulaas: Well, disable sounds for those events then :)
[08:45] <ulaas> there is no such event :)
[08:45] <ulaas> ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[08:45] <ulaas> of course there is
[08:45] <clyrrad> I know before if you wanted to do a server install you could type 'server' - but what if I want to install kubuntu now with out having to load the desktop and click the install option?  Is there a switch I can use something like 'Desktop install' or something similiar?
[08:46] <ulaas> i am a long time gnome guy
[08:46] <mulder> can't paste it Dave...
[08:46] <ulaas> i am not used to options :)
[08:46] <mulder> cannot copy the text inside the windows :-(
[08:47] <clyrrad> anyone know what boot paramters can be used during install?
[08:47] <djmdave> can you take a screenshot of it and email it me?
[08:47] <Pensacola> are there other kernels available for edgy?
[08:47] <DaSkreech> can I group commands on the command line ?
[08:48] <mulder> yes I have it
[08:48] <trappist> DaSkreech: how do you mean
[08:48] <mulder> I can email it to you sure
[08:49] <DaSkreech> Can I keep a group of commands/options together
[08:49] <trappist> DaSkreech: you can say command1;command2 to have them run one after the other, or command1 && command2 to have command2 run only if command1 finishes without errors
[08:49] <trappist> DaSkreech: but I don't know if that's what you're looking for
[08:51] <DaSkreech> trappist: I want to do a && for a set of ocmmands and background some of them
[08:52] <mulder> email address Dave please?
[08:52] <Zerb_Riss> Is there a good program for Linux that can edit PDF files?
[08:52] <DaSkreech> but leaving a hanging & backgrounds the enttire process
[08:52] <DaSkreech> as in the entire command line
[08:53] <djmdave> mulder: ok you'll see my address here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/David416 (its slighty safer than just typing it in here I think/hope ;-))
[08:53] <trappist> DaSkreech: can you be more specific?  using && means you want for previous commands to finish successfully, which makes backgrounding them a waste of time
[08:53] <trappist> s/want/wait/
[08:54] <DaSkreech> trappist: suppose I want them all to run and the last one to be backgrounded?
[08:54] <The_Croup> when i try to request an install from adept the apply changes button doesnt get activated
[08:54] <The_Croup> any ideas
[08:54] <The_Croup> y?
[08:54] <paines> hi my dvd burning is very bad. often I get a hda reset and stuff like that.
[08:54] <trappist> DaSkreech: command1 && command2 && backgroundme &
[08:54] <DaSkreech> trappist: that backgrounds command1
[08:54] <trappist> DaSkreech: that backgrounds backgroundme
[08:55] <DaSkreech> trappist: Look I just did that and it backgrounds the entire command line
[08:55] <DaSkreech> Command 1 followed by command 2 etc
[08:55] <trappist> ah.
[08:55] <trappist> DaSkreech: maybe you want to use screen
[08:56] <DaSkreech> I just want to apt-get yakuake and start it :-(
[08:56] <DaSkreech> but after the sed apt-get requires interaction
[08:56] <DaSkreech>  I could pipe yes into it I guess
[08:57] <trappist> DaSkreech: or apt-get -y
[08:57] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[08:57] <DaSkreech> ok
[08:57] <DaSkreech> That works
[08:57] <DaSkreech> Or not :-(
[08:58] <trappist> sudo apt-get -y yakuake && nohup yakuake
[08:59] <DaSkreech> trappist: That's apt-get -y install right ?
[09:00] <trappist> DaSkreech: oops yes
[09:00] <LjL> DaSkreech: right, -y is just a switch that answers "yes" to all the questions except for the most sensitive ones
[09:00] <DaSkreech> man nohup and find out about this wondrous process
[09:00] <DaSkreech> LjL: I know but it doesn't work as expected
[09:00] <trappist> DaSkreech: I usually use screen, but yeah nohup is handy
[09:01] <LjL> besides, there's somewhere in the wikis where it tells you to do something like "echo yes | apt-get install blah" -- that's horrible, but i didn't fix it, and now i don't remember what page it was
[09:01] <DaSkreech> trappist: Why would I use up resources just to background an app?
[09:01] <DaSkreech> LjL: Yeah That might work better
[09:01] <ulaas> i cannot add new leyboard layouts because the list is empty. rings a bell?
[09:01] <LjL> it'd still be horrible
[09:01] <trappist> DaSkreech: depends why you want to background it.  I do it so I can reattach to it later.
[09:01] <DaSkreech> LjL: If you apt-get -y install foo & it freezes anyway
[09:02] <DaSkreech> trappist: I never want to reattach it
[09:02] <trappist> DaSkreech: right, so nohup is probably what you want in this case
[09:02] <trappist> DaSkreech: only lame thing about nohup is it leaves a nohup.out file or something in your CWD
[09:02] <LjL> and "echo" would probably send a ctrl+d for that matter, no good either
[09:03] <DaSkreech> trappist: && rm nohup.out :-D
[09:03] <trappist> heh.
[09:04] <kay> hello i need help i have to screens but only one works when kde started or X how can i use the other one?
[09:05] <kay> to = two
[09:05] <kay> sorry
[09:05] <kay> has anyone a good howto?
[09:05] <mulder> Dave sent you a pm message
[09:06] <trappist> DaSkreech: yakuake backgrounds itself for you, unless you use --nofork
[09:07] <ezu5t> hi - just upgraded to edgy. Now I can't build any kernels - I get undefined reference to `__stack_chk_fail'. I know it has something to do with -fno-stack-protector but I tried adding that to my CFLAGS in the kernel Makefile and that didn't seem to help. Is there something else I need to do?
[09:07] <DaSkreech> trappist: really? I coulda sworn...
[09:07] <trappist> DaSkreech: just tried it
[09:08] <DaSkreech> trappist: in that case I apologise for trying to expand my mind unheeded :-)
[09:10] <trappist> ezu5t: google says you're not the only one with that problem
[09:12] <trappist> ezu5t: from what I see a fixy patch has been written (for the upstream kernel) but not yet released
[09:12] <rav3n> anybody have any idea how to mount a media card in kubuntu edgy?
[09:13] <trappist> ezu5t: the fix also seems to be in ubuntu's git tree
[09:13] <ezu5t> This is a fix to the kernel or gcc?
[09:13] <trappist> ezu5t: the kernel
[09:13] <ezu5t> what if I want to compile an older kernel?
[09:14] <trappist> ezu5t: you'll probably have a hard time, or need to use another compiler
[09:14] <trappist> ezu5t: I don't know exactly how ubuntu mashed the stack protector into gcc as default - it's not an environment variable or anything - but I don't see an easy way around it
[09:15] <trappist> ezu5t: you might ask on #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-kernel (or maybe it's #ubuntu-kernel-team)
[09:15] <ezu5t> thanks trappist
[09:17] <kraut> are there any know problems to boot from dm-crypt partitions with the edgy kernel?
[09:18] <rav3n> anybody have any idea how to mount a media card in kubuntu edgy?
[09:20] <dom> kay, this should be fine http://www.paralipsis.org/2006/01/enabling-xinerama-in-ubuntu/
[09:21] <dom> kay, check the ubuntu forums.  loads of people run dual displays on any number of different video cards so search for your card manufacter (e.g. ati or nvidia) and dual-display and you should be good to go
[09:21] <kay> dom: thx
[09:22] <siefkencp> rav3n: i just plugged mine in and it worked
[09:22] <dom> kay, np.  if you're using nvidia, you should use nvidia's twinview instead of the more general xinerama
[09:23] <kay> dom: where do i get twinview?
[09:23] <dom> kay, it's part of the nvidia driver
[09:23] <kay> dom: ah no is no program its
[09:23] <method|> hey when i first got ubuntu i did a dkpg something that allowed me to configure my fonts anyone know what that command is?
[09:23] <kay> dom: yes thx
[09:23] <method|> it was dkpg something
[09:23] <method|> dkpg font config or something
[09:23] <kay> dom : i try now cya (maybe)
[09:24] <dom> good luck, kay
[09:24] <nysosym> hi all
[09:25] <nysosym> is it possible to have video thumbnails in kubuntu?
[09:25] <trappist> nysosym: yes
[09:25] <oceanis> i hawe problem
[09:25] <oceanis> with kubuntu
[09:25] <nysosym> trappist: how? :)
[09:25] <oceanis> when im trying to make the eggdrop
[09:26] <oceanis> im geting this problem
[09:26] <djmdave> method| was it sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig ?
[09:26] <method|> djmdave: i think so
[09:26] <method|> thanks
[09:26] <trappist> nysosym: kcontrol, kde components, file manager, previews & meta-data
[09:26] <oceanis> ./eggdrop: rror while loading shared libraries : libtcl8.4.so cannot open shared object file : no such file or directory
[09:27] <trappist> oceanis: install tcl8.4-dev
[09:27] <nysosym> trappist: THX :)
[09:27] <method|> ok now my next question, i did some stuff with sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig. i'm about to install edgy but I want to keep my same font settings. Is there some way I can see what my current font settings are so I can do the same thing in edgy?
[09:27] <oceanis> when can i get that
[09:28] <trappist> oceanis: sudo apt-get install tcl8.4-dev
[09:28] <trappist> method|: if you're upgrading, the upgrade process shouldn't touch that config without your permission
[09:29] <method|> i've heard some real horror stories about upgrading so im going to do a clean install
[09:29] <siefkencp> im terrified of upgradding...
[09:29] <siefkencp> i mean i have done it successfully
[09:29] <method|> plus i have stuff like xgl and beryl installed and it's probably best if I just did a clean install
[09:29] <trappist> method|: you might try backing up your /etc/fonts
[09:30] <siefkencp> but on a production machine...
[09:30] <djmdave> I think all the info you need is kept in /etc/fonts/conf.d/ but if you upgrade it should leave it alone. I think if you go about editing those files with a text editor you run into probs...
[09:30] <rav3n> siefkencp: i find the intrrupt in dmesg of putting and taking it off
[09:30] <siefkencp> dmesg?
[09:30] <siefkencp> is that a box that popps up>?
[09:31] <kanak> Hello
[09:31] <siefkencp> are you booting with the keychain in?
[09:31] <kanak> can someone help me
[09:32] <kanak> is there a way i can go to the power settings
[09:32] <anatol> yes of course kanak
[09:32] <siefkencp> ask away.. kanak
[09:32] <djmdave> @ kanak  -- with what?
[09:32] <kanak> like on xp u can set all that info power settings
[09:32] <kanak> i want it so when i push the power nothing happends
[09:32] <kanak> happens*
[09:32] <siefkencp> rav3n: are you trying to boot with the flash drive in?
[09:32] <kanak> and computer never turns of since i am hosting a server
[09:33] <kanak> no
[09:33] <kanak> i just want it so my computer will not turn off if someone pushes the power button
[09:33] <rav3n> yep i did that
[09:33] <kanak> unless they hold it for like 5 secs..
[09:33] <kanak> the hard boot
[09:33] <rav3n> siefkencp: i did
[09:33] <kanak> how would i go doing about that
[09:33] <Lam_> i'm playing around with my shared folders right now.  is there any reason to have /tmp/ shared?
[09:34] <Lam_> it has /tmp/ shared by default
[09:34] <Lam_> i'm wondering if i should just remove that
[09:34] <siefkencp> rav3n: try to just plug it in with out booting with it in
[09:34] <siefkencp> dmesg has something to do with boot error messaging
[09:34] <bunga> hello
[09:34] <kanak> any idea guys?
[09:34] <nysosym> trappist: and is it possible to have a thumbnail for files over 100MB?
[09:35] <rav3n> siefkencp: i did that too
[09:35] <djmdave> kanak: i'm stumped, sorry!
[09:35] <kanak> dam
[09:35] <djmdave> damn ;-)
[09:35] <trappist> nysosym: I don't see why not.  hopefully konqeror doesn't have to read the whole file to make a thumbnail.
[09:35] <siefkencp> kanak: have you installed the power tools for laptops?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> kanak: I think I recall seeing something about that in the initab
[09:35] <Jazon> greetings fellow earthlings
[09:35] <rav3n> siefkencp: i also tried             mount /dev/hde0 -t vfat /mnt/pcmcia
[09:36] <kanak> nope
[09:36] <kanak> i see the thing for laptops power
[09:36] <Jazon> anyone grieving after upgrading to edgy?
[09:36] <kanak> in the panel
[09:36] <siefkencp> rav3n: perhaps it isnt supported
[09:36] <wildchild> how can I find the path of file: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9625-pkg1.run
[09:36] <Jazon> it now takes me 38 minutes to write 1.2 gb to a dvd
[09:36] <DaSkreech> Jazon: I'm Jiving does that count?
[09:36] <Jazon> or longer
[09:37] <rav3n> if it wasn't supported it wouldn't have given intrruot msgs when i put / take it off
[09:37] <Jazon> heh
[09:37] <kanak> i am there
[09:37] <trappist> wildchild: if you just downloaded it and you have no idea where it is, sudo find / -name NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9625-pkg1.run
[09:37] <kanak> now wht do i do
[09:37] <siefkencp> kanak: there might be something in that which can control the actions taken when the power key is pressed
[09:37] <siefkencp> a
[09:37] <siefkencp> h
[09:37] <trappist> wildchild: but it's probably somewhere in your home dir, in which case it'll be a lot faster to say find ~ -name NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9625-pkg1.run
[09:37] <siefkencp> kanak: hang on... you'll need to sudo apt-get something
[09:38] <Jazon> its like dma is turned off or something
[09:38] <loxs> anyone know best ide for linux?
[09:38] <kanak> k
[09:38] <loxs> i used to use visual studio but am looking for similar app for linux
[09:38] <trappist> Jazon: that happened to me too.  sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
[09:39] <djmdave> siefkencp: isn't that xmodmap or something similar? or am I barking up the wrong tree
[09:39] <Jazon> trappist: cool, thx m8
[09:41] <siefkencp> djmdave: i think Kanak may be able to use acpi
[09:42] <kanak> acpi?
[09:42] <siefkencp> yep... its a hardware event monitor
[09:42] <mRkus> Hi, wie kann ich mich als sudo anmelden?
[09:42] <siefkencp> its installed by default
[09:43] <trappist> !de | mRkus
[09:43] <ubotu> mRkus: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:44] <kanak> ok
[09:44] <vanhurck> stop
[09:44] <kanak> so wht do i need?
[09:45] <siefkencp> im trying to figure that out now -- heheh
[09:45] <djmdave> kanak: can't you just unplug the power button from the motherbord? might be easier :)
[09:45] <kanak> lol
[09:45] <kanak> how will i tirn ut on/off
[09:45] <mhb> hello all... how can I get support for .m4a music files in amaroK edgy?
[09:46] <kanak> i have little brothers/sisiters who come in and push the power button
[09:46] <djmdave> theres a command for turning it off but I can't remember it...
[09:47] <siefkencp> theres something in init.d
[09:47] <siefkencp> actually 2 things there
[09:47] <xst> How do I set the default audio output device? All the DVD players I have tried use the wrong audio device :-(
[09:47] <siefkencp> im just trying to make sure i get the right thing
[09:48] <chudd> Hello, could I ask whether the perl:locale errors that occur during unpacking of packages when dist-upgrading to edgy are anything to worry about?
[09:49] <trappist> chudd: they sure are annoying, but I haven't seen any evidence that they're doing any harm
[09:49] <mefisto__> xst: you mean you have more than 1 soundcard?
[09:49] <xst> mefisto__: Yes, exactly
[09:50] <mefisto__> xst: ok, I just did this and it worked for me
[09:50] <siefkencp> kanak:
[09:50] <omicron> hi there. I am wondering whether anybody can help me with the configuration of an us keyboard layout with the intl variant to compose umlauts?
[09:50] <djmdave> mhb: have you got the libxine-extracodecs package and w32codecs installed?
[09:50] <siefkencp> kanak: go to your commandline and run sudo /etc/init.d/acpi-support stop
[09:50] <mefisto__> xst: in terminal, do asoundconf list
[09:50] <siefkencp> that should do it
[09:50] <chudd> @trappist: OK thanks. I saw after googling that I can run localeconf and set the locale that way, but I wasn't sure iof that was necessary. The upgrade is running set-up in the background at the moment without errors...
[09:50] <mefisto__> xst: that gives you a list of your devices
[09:51] <xst> mefisto__: Yes
[09:51] <siefkencp> kanak: however if you hold the switch in there is nothing that can be done (so far as i can tell) from turning off the machine
[09:51] <mefisto__> xst: then asoundconf set-default-card (the name of the card you want)
[09:51] <kanak> ok i ran it
[09:52] <siefkencp> see if it did the trick and let me know
[09:52] <kanak> kanak@kanak-desktop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/acpi-support stop
[09:52] <kanak>  * Disabling power management...
[09:52] <mhb> djmdave: l-e yes, w32codecs is not available for me
[09:53] <trappist> mhb: it's in the multiverse repository
[09:53] <siefkencp> does it have the desired effect though
[09:53] <xst> mefisto__: It doesn't help. Actually it doesn't change anything. Does it require a logout/login?
[09:54] <mefisto__> xst: it worked immediately for me
[09:54] <ryanakca> why is everything slow when I come back to the computer after it has idled a while (24 hours...)?
[09:54] <shadowlight> Hi, i'm having an issue with sound card. When i plug my headset in the jack, the sound continu to play on the speaker.  Or when I connect my headset and it works properly, i disconnect them and sound doesn't go on speaker.
[09:54] <shadowlight> Is there a way to reset it when it happens without rebooting or to fix it permanently.
[09:55] <xst> mefisto__: Hmm, strange. Now it works. Thanks!
[09:55] <siefkencp> still with us kanak?
[09:55] <mhb> trappist: hm, interesting ... has no candidate even though I have multi enabled
[09:55] <siefkencp> im thinking it didnt work... lol
[09:55] <trappist> mhb: you're probably not on i386
[09:56] <mefisto__> shadowlight: that sounds like a hardware problem
[09:56] <mhb> trappist: I am ... and using the archive.ubuntu.com repository
[09:56] <gioven> hello
[09:56] <gioven> I installed kubuntu 6.10
[09:56] <gioven> I'd like to install xgl
[09:56] <Lefungus> does anyone know how to disable hw_random module from loading at boot ?
[09:56] <gioven> is there a guide or an howto?
[09:57] <trappist> Lefungus: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:57] <djmdave> @ siefkencp:  <-- kanak has left this server ("Konversation terminated!"). Something went wrong... :D
[09:57] <gioven> mmm I suppose doesn't exixts a guide
[09:57] <siefkencp> ohh--- i turned off my notifications
[09:57] <ryanakca> !xgl | gioven
[09:57] <ubotu> gioven: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:57] <Lefungus> trappist: thanks, I tried /etc/udev/blacklist, but it was working :)
[09:57] <Lefungus> it wasn't
[09:58] <Lefungus> ok, I just need to fix bootsplash now
[09:59] <gioven> ubotu: is it for edgy?
[09:59] <DaSkreech> Lefungus: What's broke with bootsplash?
[09:59] <mhb> trappist: can you point me to the web location of that particular package? I can't find it either
[10:00] <Lefungus> DaSkreech: text only, and text get rendered in a funny way midway
[10:00] <djmdave> mhb: download this http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[10:00] <ezu5t> trappist: i built the kernel - adding the -fno-stack-protector to CFLAGS did the trick. I accidentally added it to the HOST_CFLAGS which didn't work, but CFLAGS does.
[10:00] <gioven> ok I go
[10:00] <gioven> bye
[10:00] <djmdave> mhb: then do: sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[10:01] <mhb> djmdave: thanks, I can handle a .deb :o)
[10:01] <kanak> didn't work
[10:01] <kanak> my computer shutdown
[10:01] <kanak> after i ran that command and pushed the power button
[10:02] <siefkencp> did you push it or hold it?
[10:02] <mhb> djmdave: sadly, it didn't help
[10:02] <mhb> djmdave: No suitable demux plugin. - says amarok
[10:03] <siefkencp> Kanak: have you tried the Bios?
[10:03] <siefkencp> kanak: theres probably an option there to disable it
[10:03] <siefkencp> you can always unplug it too
[10:04] <chudd> trappist: OK going for the first Edgy boot. Thanks to you and the others for helping out here - Great job! :-)
[10:04] <siefkencp> good luck
[10:04] <siefkencp> !
[10:07] <[GuS] > Guys... could someone tell me how to regenerate all conf. files and rules inside /etc/X11/xkb? because i've deleted cause of xkb layout problem.. but when i reinstall xkb-data does not regenerate/install all rules and conf inside there
[10:08] <siefkencp> ouch
[10:08] <djmdave> mhb: try deleting the xine-config file in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok . Then restart amarok. Thats solved playback prolems for me before
[10:09] <siefkencp> GuS: outta my league... I'd go poking around for sample conf's
[10:09] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get reinstall ?
[10:09] <siefkencp> he said he tried it
[10:09] <mhb> [GuS] : dpkg-reconfigure ?
[10:09] <waterpie> after upgrading from dapper to edgy, it seems that at boot it fsck every time, and it is taking ages. any ideas?
[10:10] <[GuS] > nope mhb
[10:10] <[GuS] > that doesn't do that
[10:11] <siefkencp> [GuS] : is compiling from scratch an option?
[10:11] <mhb> djmdave: still nothing :oI
[10:11] <[GuS] > siefkencp, ?
[10:12] <djmdave> does the file play in mplayer?
[10:12] <[GuS] > i am using the package from repos... not compiling..
[10:12] <[GuS] > you mean to compile to solve this_
[10:12] <[GuS] > ?
[10:13] <vanhurck> hi, can anyone help me to install flash on my system,I try to watch online newsbroadcasting and it doestnt work
[10:13] <siefkencp> just an idea
[10:13] <[GuS] > mm
[10:13] <[GuS] > maybe this.. who have edgy here_
[10:13] <[GuS] > ?
[10:13] <siefkencp> i know compiling is about as fun as it gets but it could do the trick
[10:13] <waterpie> after upgrading from dapper to edgy, it seems that at boot it fsck every time, and it is taking ages to boot. any ideas?
[10:13] <siefkencp> ohh yeah get some one to zip it up and get it to you
[10:13] <siefkencp> duh
[10:14] <[GuS] > yes siefkencp .. i am not newbie.. i know how :) i am just trying to fix this
[10:14] <mefisto__> can someone recommend a tv program?
[10:14] <[GuS] > siefkencp, do you use edgy or dapper_
[10:14] <[GuS] > ?
[10:14] <navaburo> Issue: When i shutdown/restart/hibernate/suspend/end my session the screen goes black and the computer freezes
[10:14] <navaburo> any ideas?
[10:14] <[GuS] > navaburo, you use beryl_
[10:14] <[GuS] > ?
[10:14] <siefkencp> I gathered that you weren't i just take the long way around on things... (missing the obvious solution)
[10:14] <navaburo> kubuntu edgy
[10:15] <[GuS] > navaburo, but you have beryl installed?
[10:15] <harleypig> I'm trying to update from kubuntu 6.06 to edgy ... I deleted the generic kernel packages in boot trying to free up some space on my /boot partition.  It turns out that those are needed for some reason (I'm using a k8 kernel).  How can I get those back? or, preferably, make the k8 kernels the ones used by the system (nvidia, xorg, etc.)
[10:15] <navaburo> no.. kde
[10:15] <siefkencp> I use dapper gus... im concerend with upgrading breaking a production machine... i have an edgy box down the hall though
[10:15] <[GuS] > yeah siefkencp ... you are right... edgy breaks somethings
[10:16] <[GuS] > but... only problems i have is xkb layout in kde.. no flags to select.. and the locale thing.
[10:16] <navaburo> [GuS] , locate beryl returns nothing
[10:16] <[GuS] > and in many workstation with Edgy, this ia happening
[10:16] <[GuS] > is*
[10:16] <siefkencp> im sure my software will work on it--- im just not in the mood to migrate it--- id love to just upgrade but its not worth the risk
[10:17] <siefkencp> which conf files do you need... ill tar them and send them to you
[10:17] <[GuS] > i will need the hole xkb dir (/etc/X11/xkb/)
[10:17] <[GuS] > because is where rules alocated for everyt keyboard
[10:17] <siefkencp> ok give me a few minutes to get it
[10:17] <sam_> any kino users here?
[10:17] <[GuS] > ok, thanks
[10:18] <noir> how do i give my self ownership on my account?
[10:19] <waterpie> after upgrading from dapper to edgy, it seems that at boot it fsck every time, and it is taking ages to boot. any ideas?
[10:19] <navaburo> noir, you mean ownership of a file?
[10:19] <navaburo> chown user:group file
[10:19] <navaburo> you may have to do sudo chown, etc.
[10:19] <harleypig> waterpie: Did you dist-upgrade twice?
[10:19] <noir> when i go into permissions on any file it says that i require ownership to change permissions of said file
[10:20] <trappist> noir: yep you have to be either the owner or root
[10:20] <waterpie> harleypig: the installer crashed with 8 files remaining. I rerun it, it goes on to 4. Rerun, 1. It boots and works, but booting takes ages
[10:20] <waterpie> (net install)
[10:20] <navaburo> noir, so do sudo chown noir:users
[10:21] <harleypig> Anyone know how I can either reinstall a linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic package (and its restricted partner) or else make the ssystem use my current k8 setup?
[10:21] <harleypig> waterpie: Do you have aptitude installed?
[10:23] <waterpie> harleypig: i think so
[10:23] <franzmax> hello.  I'm completing installation of kubuntu edgy on a pc which has a wireless PCI board as the only possible internet connection. I cannot find "wirelesstools" on the install cd!!!  what could i do?
[10:23] <siefkencp> [Gus] : my text box doesnt have xkb
[10:23] <harleypig> waterpie: Try sudo aptitude -f dist-upgrade && aptitude -f install
[10:23] <[GuS] > ops
[10:23] <harleypig> It's a little redundant, but it may help.
[10:24] <[GuS] > yeah... because is from Xorg
[10:24] <[GuS] > thanks anyway
[10:24] <siefkencp> whats the package i need to install
[10:24] <harleypig> Also, try  sudo dpkg --configure -a when that's done.
[10:24] <siefkencp> ill run it
[10:24] <siefkencp> its just a wipeable test machine
[10:25] <blackflag> I can not start vmware-client after upgrading to edgy
[10:25] <waterpie> harleypig: still that last packages has problems. It's k3d. It says: .... __main__.PyCentralError: package has no field Python-Version  ....
[10:26] <[GuS] > blackflag, you need to compile again the libx from vmware.
[10:26] <[GuS] > because of the kernel upgrade
[10:26] <[GuS] > lib*
[10:26] <harleypig> waterpie: Sorry, that's the last of my meager abilities on Ubuntu.
[10:26] <blackflag> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29435/
[10:26] <harleypig> You might try uninstalling and reinstalling it but I don't know what that program is
[10:26] <waterpie> harleypig: ok, thanks for the try
[10:26] <blackflag> libx ? where can I can get this?
[10:26] <[GuS] > i mean lib
[10:27] <[GuS] > you must reinstall vmware
[10:28] <franzmax> is wireless tools on the install cd (edgy) or not?
[10:28] <scion> hello all
[10:28] <blackflag> where I can find the lib? Could not locate it
[10:28] <[GuS] > blackflag, reinstall vmware................
[10:29] <sam_> any kino users here?
[10:30] <livingdaylight> !repos
[10:30] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:30] <harleypig> sam_: doesn't look like it
[10:30] <waterpie> after upgrading from dapper to edgy, it seems that at boot it fsck every time, and it is taking ages to boot. any ideas?
[10:30] <edseidel> afternoon all
[10:31] <inteliwasp> what do i need to do to reset the ssh known_hosts file?
[10:31] <BdySncher> is there an easy way to update dapper to edgy?
[10:31] <inteliwasp> BdySncher:  ya, clean install
[10:31] <trappist> inteliwasp: delete it... ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[10:31] <inteliwasp> thanks trappist
[10:31] <BdySncher> ewww
[10:31] <BdySncher> not what I was hoping for :)
[10:32] <BdySncher> thanks Wasd
[10:32] <waterpie> a) after upgrading from dapper to edgy, it seems that at boot it fsck every time, and it is taking ages to boot. any ideas?
[10:32] <BdySncher> err wasp
[10:32] <Pupeno> Hello.
[10:32] <Pupeno> Does anybody have any idea how to make work the TV out feature of a SiS video card ?
[10:32] <franzmax> hey BdySncher , i simply upgraded using the "alternate"  and edgy works just fine cd
[10:32] <NickNak> [GuS] : re your xkb problem: why not use dpkg -x to extract the files from the .deb file which you should have in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:32] <waterpie> b) k3d won't install, saying: "...raise PyCentralError, "package has no field Python-Version"..."
[10:33] <BdySncher> huh?
[10:33] <franzmax> BdySncher, download the .iso named "alternate" instead of the sandard one and use that. it worked fine for me
[10:34] <BdySncher> Ohhhhhhhh ok
[10:34] <BdySncher> I remembered seeing that as a D/L option
[10:34] <BdySncher> Thanks Franz
[10:34] <franzmax> yes BdySncher   and you save all your previous settings... which is not bad
[10:35] <xst> The mga driver in edgy seems to be broken. Does anyone know when a fix for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-mga/+bug/58721 is available? (Apparently it is fixed in the debian/unstable repository)
[10:35] <oceanis> wtf i got problem with nero linux i cant install it
[10:35] <BdySncher> thanks again
[10:36] <BdySncher> we'll give it a shot later after the D/L
[10:37] <franzmax> now, anybody can tell me how to install a wireless connection if "wireless-tools" is not on the install CD ?  no other easy way to connect that pc to internet but wireless....
[10:37] <chudd> franzmax: I use "wlassistant" - is it not on the disk?
[10:38] <waterpie> a) after upgrading from dapper to edgy, it seems that at boot it fsck every time, and it is taking ages to boot. any ideas?
[10:38] <waterpie> b) k3d won't install, saying: "...raise PyCentralError, "package has no field Python-Version"..." any ideas?
[10:38] <franzmax> chudd: my PCI wireless board needs wireless tools
[10:38] <oceanis> wtf i got problem with nero linux i cant install it
[10:39] <omicron> franzmax: wireless lan worked out of the box on my notebook. on dapper as well as on edgy. you could use iwconfig or wlassistant or knetworkmanager
[10:39] <livingdaylight> are backports enabled?
[10:39] <livingdaylight> what are backports?
[10:39] <franzmax> omicron, not with my board: need to install a windows driver
[10:40] <livingdaylight> edgy-backports main restricted universe/multiverse what do these do?
[10:40] <livingdaylight> do i want to enable those?
[10:40] <franzmax> I already did it on another pc which could be connectet with bot an ethernet cable and a wireless
[10:40] <omicron> franzmax: is it the ndis wrapper that you need then?
[10:40] <franzmax> both*
[10:40] <livingdaylight> please?
[10:41] <franzmax> no... that is on the cd
[10:42] <livingdaylight>  edgy-backports main restricted universe/multiverse what do these do?
[10:42] <franzmax> i need to have wireless-tools package and lib on that pc... but i can't reach it with a cable or a modem
[10:42] <livingdaylight> do i enable edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:43] <omicron> franzmax: whar about an usb stick? =)
[10:44] <inteliwasp> when i boot from a clean install, it never starts xorg, and the log does not have any obvious clues
[10:44] <jordan_88> how to identify my nick ?
[10:44] <livingdaylight> i'd appreciate it if someone could tell me what edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse do/does, please?
[10:44] <franzmax> haven't one at hand omicron... :(
[10:45] <livingdaylight> do you guys have 'em enabled?
[10:45] <trappist> jordan_88: if you're already registered, /msg nickserv identify [password] 
[10:45] <jordan_88> trappist ye i'm register
[10:45] <inteliwasp> !reps
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <trappist> livingdaylight: all the edgy-backports repos (main, restricted etc.) give you access to newer versions of packages that will eventually be available and be backported to edgy (so you don't have to wait for feisty)
[10:46] <inteliwasp> !repos
[10:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:46] <waterpie> a) after upgrading from dapper to edgy, it seems that at boot it fsck every time, and it is taking ages to boot. any ideas?
[10:46] <waterpie> b) k3d won't install, saying: "...raise PyCentralError, "package has no field Python-Version"..." any ideas?
[10:46] <Bubba_Gump> waterpie, did you update from a live cd or repositories?
[10:47] <livingdaylight> trappist: thx, for explaining the 'backports' concept
[10:47] <Bubba_Gump> i updated first with apt-get (changing all dapper to edgy) and it went a bit wrong
[10:47] <Bubba_Gump> so then i downloaded the live cd, and, all is fine :)
[10:48] <carlos> Hello
[10:48] <alex_> i'm getting an error telling me saying it can't find X includes when i run ./configure
[10:48] <alex_> anyone know a solution?
[10:48] <omicron> franzmax: if I am not mistaken, the wireless-tools package is the set of iwconfig / iwlist / iwpriv etc. which should be installed by default..
[10:48] <carlos> I need help, kubuntu doesnt see my wireless card
[10:48] <trappist> alex_: what does it say right before that?
[10:49] <alex_> please check your installation and add the correct paths
[10:49] <treat> when i insert an usb storage device and click "open in new window" i get an error saying "malformed url" =(
[10:49] <alex_> i've done some googling and i can't find the contents of the includes folder
[10:50] <omicron> carlos: do you have a hardware switch that has to be turned on? I forgot that with my laptop one time ;)
[10:50] <trappist> alex_: try installing xserver-xorg-dev
[10:50] <segfault_> alex_, u need to install the -dev pkgs for what libs u r using
[10:51] <carlos> yes but i do it and still nothing happens and when i do lspci i get "broadcom corporation unknow device"
[10:51] <alex_> so i need to apt-get install -dev?
[10:51] <inteliwasp> when i boot from a clean install, it never starts xorg, and the log does not have any obvious clues pastebin:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29438/
[10:52] <Bubba_Gump> i get unknown device here too (zydas generic unknown) yet it seems to work
[10:52] <Bubba_Gump> how far can you get with it, carlos?
[10:52] <carlos> no far, this is my second experience with linux so im stupid
[10:52] <omicron> carlos: can you paste the output of the dmesg command?
[10:52] <carlos> in pastebin?
[10:52] <livingdaylight> !restricted
[10:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:53] <omicron> carlos: jap
[10:53] <GnarusLeo> hi! why cant you get the latest amarok release in edgy? I want to add http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/dists/ to my repos .. but it only has edgy .
[10:54] <trappist> GnarusLeo: didn't it just come out like a few minutes ago
[10:54] <Bubba_Gump> heh, my experience with linux is about a month, i know little too (patching together all the infomation, i guess :) )
[10:54] <GnarusLeo> trappist, maybe? :)
[10:54] <jordan_88>  /msg jordan_88 identify neross
[10:54] <trappist> jordan_88: oops
[10:54] <trappist> jordan_88: better change your password :)
[10:54] <segfault_> GnarusLeo, that link has only 1.4.3 pkgs which are in edgy by default
[10:55] <thunderstorm> hi@all
[10:55] <Bubba_Gump> hey
[10:55] <shadowlight> mefisto, these event are suppose to be dealt at the hardware level? not software or driver level?
[10:55] <carlos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29439/
[10:55] <thunderstorm> i have a problem understanding the tar-command
[10:55] <jordan_88> trappist my password dosn't work :F
[10:55] <shadowlight> thunderstorm: go ahead waht do you want to do
[10:56] <thunderstorm> i want this: tar -zcvf /mnt/backup -N 2006-10-01 /home/
[10:56] <Bubba_Gump> jordan: /msg nickserv identify <password>
[10:56] <shadowlight> thunderstorm:  tar -c is to create, tar -x is to extract, following that you have to specify the kind of compressoin used. : -z is for tar.gz otherwise without compression option it will be .tar only
[10:56] <GnarusLeo> segfault_, ah ..
[10:56] <shadowlight> mm
[10:56] <shadowlight> you want to create a backup of /mnt/backup ?
[10:57] <shadowlight> i don't understand your -N option and the date followed by the home waht is your goal exactly.
[10:57] <segfault_> thunderstorm, man tar u are missing the output filename
[10:57] <jordan_88> Bubba_Gump i don't use this nick abut 2 month's it's mayebe deete ?
[10:57] <Bubba_Gump> could be
[10:57] <carlos> I also tried to install the official ati driver and after rebooting xwindow wouldn start, it froze at the boot progress bar just before the gui
[10:57] <Bubba_Gump> try regging again?
[10:57] <shadowlight> tar -options outputfile sourcefile sourcefile2 sourcefile3
[10:58] <alex_> how would i go about installing the dev packages in edgy?
[10:58] <thunderstorm> ok, i know - but the problem is, the tar-command stores all subdirectories of /home in the tarball - if e.g. two files are changed, i have thausands subdirectories and only two changed files in it
[10:58] <thunderstorm> thats my problem - and i don't know, what i have to do
[10:59] <oceanis> wtf i got problem with nero linux i cant install it
[10:59] <shadowlight> thunderstorm: this is over my knowledge.  maybe you could try to exclude them with a find -type d |xargs grep -v
[10:59] <inteliwasp> when i boot from a clean install, it never starts xorg, and the log does not have any obvious clues pastebin:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29438/
[10:59] <shadowlight> (my syntax is not correct but it is more for the idea
[11:00] <shadowlight> good luck thunderstorm
[11:00] <omicron> carlos: hm. was hoping to find some kind of firmware loading error in your dmesg. but did not. what says lspci -v? ->paste
[11:01] <thunderstorm> shadowlight: oh oh... another question: can i copy files with a specific date?
[11:02] <GnarusLeo> WTF is magnatude??
[11:02] <inteliwasp> omicron:  have carlos try the iwconfig command, sometimes it does see the card
[11:02] <carlos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29442/
[11:03] <inteliwasp> thunderstorm:  darn it, if you had ask that a year ago i had a script for something like that
[11:03] <carlos> iwconfig gives no wireless extenion in all 3 connections
[11:03] <omicron> intelliwasp: seems as if your radeon driver crashes.. try ro replace radeon with sth different. e.g. vesa
[11:04] <thunderstorm> ok, you have understand my problem - i search a backup-solution for my data
[11:04] <trappist> thunderstorm: a specific create time, or modified time, or access time?
[11:04] <phil-j> Hi,when I maximise a window, when I move the mouse pointer over the scroll bar on the right hand side of the window, the scroll bar becomes highlighted. But if I move the mouse pointer to the far edge of the screen, the highlight is lost but the scroll bar still works.
[11:05] <thunderstorm> trappist: create or modify, if possible
[11:05] <thunderstorm> i cannot find a good backup-solutition, because i must use a network-pc, that runs under windows xp and filesystem ntfs...
[11:05] <thunderstorm> thats the way i cannot use rsync or other backup-tools
[11:06] <trappist> thunderstorm: find /path/to/files -mtime +5 -exec cp {} /some/place \;  <-- that could copy any files more than 5 days old to /some/place
[11:06] <trappist> thunderstorm: -mtime is modified time
[11:06] <phil-j> Meanwhile, if I mouse to the bottom of the screen, the menu icons such as Konqueror are highlighted when I mouse over them and remain highlighted even when I mouse off the bottom of the screen (correct).
[11:07] <phil-j> Where can I report the cosmetic scroll bar bug?
[11:07] <omicron> carlos: try this: http://www.seungpyo.com/stacksandpiles/2006/07/02/broadcom-wireless-in-ubuntu-dapper-606/
[11:08] <thunderstorm> trappist: thank you, i will try it
[11:08] <carlos> ok ill try
[11:08] <phil-j> Never mind.
[11:09] <omicron> carlos: you will need the windows drivers for your card as well
[11:09] <inteliwasp> omicron:  wasin't where something i had to change in the xorg config to get the ati cards to work?
[11:10] <carlos> the driver for the ati card?
[11:10] <carlos> its supossed to be a mobility radeon
[11:10] <omicron> intelliwasp: there is a free driver that is the driver called: radeon and the proprietary one, which is called just ati
[11:11] <carlos> cause widescreen doesnt work
[11:11] <inteliwasp> omicron:  i just want the display to work, i can get the 3d stuff later
[11:11] <carlos> well i just installed a few minutes ago
[11:12] <tolkan> Does anyone know of a decent alternative to KRFB? its awful.
[11:14] <omicron> carlos + intelliwasp: this is my xorg.conf for an ati radeon mobility 9200 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29444/
[11:15] <livingdaylight> do i have to install libdvdcss 2 separately?
[11:15] <carlos> omicron: And you have 3d working right?
[11:15] <jacob> probably
[11:15] <bLaZeD> edgy doesnt ship with a firewall on by default does it?
[11:16] <bLaZeD> some sites i goto are timeing out and yet others are able to go to it
[11:16] <bLaZeD> i can not even ping the ip of the site
[11:18] <omicron> carlos: yep but the performance of the free driver is not that good =) but its sufficient to play tuxracer / torcs and things like that =)
[11:19] <TheGateKeeper> bLaZeD: most modern linux distro inluding this one come with iptables, but I have never had to go in and alter anything
[11:19] <TheGateKeeper> including*
[11:19] <livingdaylight> does libxine-extracodecs cover libdvdcss 2 ? anyone know, please?
[11:19] <carlos> so i wont be able ti run unreal tournament 2004 :'(
[11:19] <bLaZeD> TheGateKeeper, yea i had heard that ubuntu ships with no services...so there is no open ports
[11:20] <bLaZeD> carlos, yea u can run that
[11:20] <bLaZeD> carlos, i have b4
[11:20] <d> How do I turn off the lock screen password that appears after resuming Edgy after a hibernate?
[11:20] <bLaZeD> carlos, but prefer enemy territory
[11:20] <omicron> carlos: with the proprietary drivers you certainly can. I did that. dunno if it runs with the free drivers..
[11:20] <Xaero_Vincent> Do you think KDE 4 will be included in Kubuntu 7.04?
[11:20] <TheGateKeeper> you need libdvdcss2 (or 3) to get dvd play back
[11:21] <livingdaylight> does libxine-extracodecs include libdvdcss 2 ? anyone know, please?
[11:21] <Xaero_Vincent> Thats April 2007 correct?
[11:21] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: ok, thx
[11:21] <inteliwasp> Xaero_Vincent:  only if itis out before kubuntu is released
[11:21] <TheGateKeeper> bLaZeD: I think it opens ports up, or lets traffic through for those applications that need it when they are installed
[11:22] <Eeyore_Jr> i have a problem.  i downloaded the kubuntu*.iso from a torrent, and fired up k3b to burn it.  k3b gets to 100% and then just sits there as it is closes the session, but the session never closes
[11:23] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: they have to be installed seperately, one does not include the other
[11:23] <livingdaylight> Adept is just crashing on me,
[11:23] <Xaero_Vincent> ok, inteliwasp.. I think it will be pretty close at that time.
[11:23] <carlos> i downloded the driver from ati webpage and installed it but it ruined my install
[11:24] <inteliwasp> Xaero_Vincent:  ya so long as there are no delays on either of them
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: adept is not that I good, I don't use, instead apt-get & synaptic as the gui
[11:24] <Xaero_Vincent> yeah.. well it its delayed ill just wait for Kubuntu 7.10.
[11:25] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: why would apt-get not have libdvdcss2 or 3 ??
[11:25] <cpk2> !info libdvdcss2
[11:25] <ubotu> libdvdcss2: Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4 (edgy-seveas), package size 33 kB, installed size 112 kB
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: because your sources are not set up correctly
[11:26] <carlos> do i have to enable a special repository because apt-get says it doesnt find ndiswrapper-utils
[11:27] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: assuming you are using edgy take a look at the guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:28] <d> kpowersave is missing from kubuntu - thats why I can't turn the hibernate password off
[11:29] <carlos> If only my wifi worked waaa
[11:29] <livingdaylight> !repos
[11:29] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:29] <omicron> carlos: try to add the universe (and multiverse?) repositories: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29449/
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> Eeyore_Jr: I am guessing that it's bad download
[11:29] <Eeyore_Jr> bleh
[11:29] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: i used Adept as this guide shows to add repos : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:30] <carlos> ok
[11:32] <livingdaylight> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list  is it?
[11:32] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: hmmm I use the dapper version (as that is what I am still running) on that guide to change my repos & have always been able to install anything I needed
[11:33] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: yes, but make a backup first
[11:33] <livingdaylight> !paste
[11:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:34] <carlos> i found something about a wireless-installer but i couldnt fid where to download it
[11:34] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: if you'd be so kind and care to look at my sources.list : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29451/
[11:36] <d> if there are any kubuntu devs here may i suggest kpowersave be added to the default list of packages, instead of having to fetch it from universe
[11:36] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: much as I might expect them to be, but compare them to the url I gave you
[11:37] <Admiral_Chicago> d: i'll pass the message to the people i know
[11:38] <carlos> omicron: the instructions in the link doesnt seem to work, the second command returns: ERROR: Module bcm43xx does not exist in /proc/modules
[11:39] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: that is for Ubuntu
[11:39] <d> Admiral: Thanks! Its just that one of the very first things I do after installing is turn on auto-login and turn off the password on hibernate resume, but I wouldn't be able to make full use of this killer feature without kpowersave, which is only a small app anyway
[11:39] <TheGateKeeper> I don't know why they don't just enable all the repos & save all the damn grief
[11:39] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: i agree
[11:39] <Admiral_Chicago> d: I told the MOTU that handle many things like that
[11:39] <cpk2> TheGateKeeper: because you can get mp3 codecs and whatnot from the other repos
[11:39] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: so many friggin guides that do different things
[11:39] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: that's what you are running with a KDE desktop lol
[11:40] <twenty2sixty> hi! I just tried mounting my ipod nano in edgy.. it doesn't get recognized at all. I read the bug-db & the ubuntu forums, but people only seem to have had problems with auto-mounting it - at my side, it doesn't mount AT ALL... any help?
[11:40] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: are you suggesting i change my whole repos list with teh ubuntu one ?
[11:40] <Admiral_Chicago> d: everything is in universe until someone changes that
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: well there is a way out of this :-)
[11:40] <omicron> carlos: that just means that you do not have the driver for the card loaded yet. do not worry about the errors that rmmod in the instructions might raise..
[11:40] <Admiral_Chicago> because it's community supported not Ubuntu official supported iirc
[11:41] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: its just libdvdcss3 that is not available out of all 20 202 packages currently available
[11:41] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: back it up & yes#
[11:41] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: back it up & yes
[11:41] <redtricycle> What's the md5sum for edgy?
[11:41] <redtricycle> I can't find it through the main site
[11:41] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: libdvdcss3 today, something else tomorrow
[11:42] <carlos> oh ok, so now ill try to enable the repos, u have to do it in console? ill serch in wiki
[11:42] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: but i followed the guide, and don't see what could be missing in terms of repository - they are all there aren't they?
[11:42] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: what particular repository is libdvdcss3 in?
[11:43] <cpk2> carlos: you dont have to do it in konsole, but if you do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list it will open in an easy to use graphical editor
[11:43] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: well compare line 8 to: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[11:44] <carlos> ok thx
[11:44] <Hawkwind> !info libdvdcss3
[11:44] <ubotu> Package libdvdcss3 does not exist in any distro I know
[11:45] <Hawkwind> !info libdvdcss2
[11:45] <ubotu> libdvdcss2: Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4 (edgy-seveas), package size 33 kB, installed size 112 kB
[11:45] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: follow this guide & stop banging your head against a brick wall lol http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:45] <alecjw> does anyone know how i can make amarok automatically sync my portable media player with my collection?
[11:46] <Pupeno> When trying to start a failsafe X session on Kubuntu Dapper I get an error about x-terminal-emulator not found. What am I missing ? xterm is installed.
[11:46] <Admiral_Chicago> alecjw: whats the media player
[11:46] <carlos> should erase and put the text from your pastebin?
[11:47] <alecjw> Admiral_Chicago: iPod
[11:47] <alecjw> video
[11:48] <Admiral_Chicago> alecjw: there is a media plug in
[11:48] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not sure i've only used it like twice
[11:48] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe #amarok
[11:49] <alecjw> ok. thanks
[11:49] <TheGateKeeper> btw I installed the -k7 kernel & kubuntu isn't going any faster :-(
[11:49] <omicron> carlos: you can do that. keep a backup copy of your sources.list .. just in case ;)
[11:50] <carlos> ok done
[11:51] <borisyeltsin> hi, what's a good app to make business cards for kde?
[11:51] <_acesuares> hi, i upgraded to edgy rc2 but my i810 video card doesn't work any more (ABI version mismatch).
[11:51] <_acesuares> What to do ? How to downgrad e?
[11:53] <livingdaylight> does it happen to other people - that you hit synaptic or Adept and it tries to open but eventually fails... twice in a row now for me...*sigh
[11:53] <carlos> it still says it doesnt find ndiswrapper...why oh why cant i use linux!
[11:54] <redtricycle> yeah, the edgy live cd doesnt work for me, bluetooth dies in it
[11:54] <redtricycle> so I can't even install it
[11:55] <tordu> hi people
[11:55] <tordu> a question..
[11:55] <tordu> how can i copy multiple files by using konqueror file manager to a directory with root rights
[11:55] <Admiral_Chicago> !ask > tordu
[11:56] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: yep I have had that happen on odd occasions, probable a better way to fix it, but logging out then back in usually sorts itself out
[11:57] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: how do you log out? as far as i could see i was already logged out, otherwise i wouldn't have gone to applications to look for it
[11:57] <d> Unfortunately, kpowersave hasn't done the trick - i still get asked for a password after resuming from hibernate
[11:58] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: libdvdcss2 installed now, [by the way]  :)
[11:58] <omicron> carlos: did you do an apt-get update?
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> tordu: only way I know would be to Run Command... kdesu konqueor the hold the shift key select your files & move them, but BE CAREFULL!!
[11:58] <carlos> i just did it
[11:58] <carlos> its still downlaodeng
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: log out of the current session, i.e. kicker -> log out -> End Current Session
[12:00] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: don't know kicker
[12:00] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: must be another kde thing
[12:00] <tordu> TheGatekepper: thank you! it works!
[12:00] <tordu> Kubuntu rocks!
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: K button
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> tordu: yw :-)
[12:03] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: oh...lol sounds extreme
[12:03] <carlos> where can i see the image from a webcam?
[12:05] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell carlos about webcam
[12:05] <LjL> carlos: you could try camstream, just the first one i could think of
[12:06] <loxs> anyone know best ide for linux?
[12:06] <loxs> i used to use visual studio but am looking for similar app for linux
[12:09] <carlos> kubuntu recognises the webcam, it even installed it
[12:09] <Bubba_Gump> does anyone know of a good spss app..?
[12:09] <omicron> loxs: vim =) try kdevelop
[12:10] <TheGateKeeper> time for sleep n8 all
[12:10] <Bubba_Gump> prefably similar to spss 14
[12:11] <Bubba_Gump> cya bud :)
[12:11] <Zarephath> Anyone enlighten me about the difference between router and gateway is on a Linksys WRT54G router?
[12:11] <Zarephath> This is a setting in the router..