[12:59] <cge> Bug #69181 is great.
[12:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 69181 in firefox "firefox has bee ncrashing often in edgy " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69181
[01:01] <crimsun> it's probably not even a FF issue.
[01:02] <cge> Yes. In the old days of GNOME's bugzilla, I would probably close a bug like that as rejected, but I suppose I should set it as needsinfo.
[02:49] <secretlondon> hi
[03:00] <Susana> hi, could someone help me on triaging a bug?
[03:00] <secretlondon> i'll try
[03:00] <Susana> most of the issues in bug 60274 have been fixed, but there's still a package missing from the reps
[03:00] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 60274 in Ubuntu "pt_PT dictionarys unavailable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60274
[03:01] <Susana> and bug 68872
[03:01] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68872 in language-support-pt "myspell-pt-pt missing from depends and not available at the repositories" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68872
[03:01] <Susana> is about that package
[03:01] <Susana> can i mark it a dup
[03:01] <Susana> as a dup
[03:01] <Susana> or is it more usefull to have that particular package in a separate bug report?
[03:02] <secretlondon> mark 68872 a duplicate of 60274
[03:02] <Susana> ok secretlondon
[03:02] <Susana> thanks
[03:03] <secretlondon> you make the main bug the one with the most info - which is 60274
[03:03] <secretlondon> it's not necessarily the earliest one - but it is in this case
[03:08] <Susana> secretlondon: should i make any more changes?
[03:08] <Susana> like setting affects to language-support-pt in 60274
[03:08] <Susana> and make the default comment for dups in 68872
[03:09] <Susana> or is it good like it is now?
[03:10] <secretlondon> affects we need the package it affects - things filed against ubuntu get forgotten
[03:10] <secretlondon> adding the default comment for dups is a good thing to do
[03:11] <secretlondon> is language-support-pt the best thing to file it under? I don't know
[03:12] <Susana> is it not? ups i changed it :/
[03:13] <Susana> i think it is because if you try to apt-get it, it says it is going to install myspell-pt-br and not myspell-pt-pt
[03:14] <secretlondon> susana: it's fine - it was a question as I don't know
[03:14] <Susana> and those are different
[03:14] <secretlondon> if it is wrong someone from that team will change it
[03:14] <secretlondon> it's just that bugs filed under Ubuntu don't often get looked at by people
[03:15] <secretlondon> susana: so you've done a good job :)
[03:16] <Susana> :)
[03:16] <Susana> thanks for your help secretlondon
[03:31] <secretlondon> no problem
[03:45] <secretlondon> hi hobbsee
[03:46] <Hobbsee> hi secretlondon
[04:10] <secretlondon> Could any of the kde people look at this bug for me?
[04:10] <secretlondon> #42775
[04:10] <secretlondon> bug #42775
[04:10] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 42775 in swscanner "swscanner tries to use kdesu, which is not installed" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/42775
[04:11] <secretlondon> it breaks in edubuntu - does it just need kdebase.bin adding to the dependencies?
[04:34] <nixternal> secretlondon: i love kde boogs
[04:34] <nixternal> as these for edgy?
[04:35] <secretlondon> nixternal: egdy still has the boog afaik
[04:36] <nixternal> one sec, and i will fire up my edubuntu edgy box
[04:36] <secretlondon> ty!
[04:37] <nixternal> ok, apt-get the swscanner and then what?
[04:37] <secretlondon> it installs 2 icons - run norm and run as root
[04:38] <nixternal> k
[04:38] <secretlondon> the run as root is broken cos it asks for kdesu
[04:38] <secretlondon> which isn't installed
[04:40] <nixternal> do you run it from term? where are these icons at?
[04:40] <secretlondon> should be under internet
[04:40] <nixternal> derr, big green swirls
[04:40] <nixternal> how could i have missed those
[04:40] <secretlondon> lol
[04:41] <nixternal> interesting...wireless scanner..nice
[04:41] <nixternal> im getting a signal, and i don't even have wireless on this box ;)
[04:41] <secretlondon> its the nearest we have to netstumbler
[04:42] <secretlondon> its quite a nice app
[04:42] <nixternal> ok, so now if i try the root way, it should crap out on me?
[04:42] <secretlondon> yeah
[04:42] <secretlondon> say no kdesu
[04:42] <nixternal> that was quick
[04:42] <nixternal> confirmed!
[04:42] <secretlondon> cool
[04:42] <secretlondon> so add a dep on whatever gives kdesu?
[04:43] <nixternal> thats what i looks like
[04:43] <nixternal> why it would ask for kdesui don't know
[04:44] <secretlondon> it is a kde app
[04:44] <nixternal> i didn't even realise that
[04:44] <secretlondon> it needs to run as root for scanning
[04:44] <secretlondon> like sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[04:44] <secretlondon> needs sudo from the command line
[04:45] <nixternal> hmm
[04:45] <nixternal> you can run it with sudo from the command line..but still
[04:45] <nixternal> that either needs to be tweaked to remove the kdesu dep or vice-versa
[04:46] <secretlondon> it needs root - whether its from gksudo or not
[04:51] <nixternal> it needs kdebase-bin as a dep
[04:51] <secretlondon> thanks - thats what i thought
[04:51] <nixternal> no problem
[04:52] <secretlondon> so we need to patch - and then send to debian too as we get it from them in think
[04:53] <nixternal> alrighty, i confirmed, set "low" status for the time being, and if nobody hits it up soon........well you just finished my sentence ;)
[04:53] <secretlondon> ok - i've done another patch on that prog to fix all the english boogs
[04:53] <secretlondon> so they may want combining - i dunno how these things work
[04:54] <nixternal> actually, that patch would be nothing more than adding 'kdebase-bin' to the control file, running dch -i to update the changelog and ubuntu version, then debuild -S then come out and debdiff it really
[04:54] <nixternal> i could probably do that really quick
[04:55] <nixternal> actually...for edgy i could
[04:55] <nixternal> i don't have a dapper chroot setup anymore
[05:06] <secretlondon> i should make a chroot on this box really - i need to learn to package
[05:12] <ajmitch> it would be a good thing to do
[05:12] <secretlondon> I agree
[05:44] <secretlondon> hi corey
[05:54] <Burgundavia> hey secretlondon
[06:34] <darren> hey can anyone confirm a bug for me?
[06:34] <darren> bug 68794
[06:34] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68794 in wesnoth "single player campaigns are not included" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68794
[06:35] <secretlondon> darren: i don't have a working edgy box sorry
[06:36] <darren> its ok, its not exactly high priority, and i have a workaround since its just a packaging issue
[06:36] <secretlondon> athough the music could be licensing related
[06:37] <darren> oh i guess that might make sense
[06:37] <darren> they are ogg files but i could see that they might not be "free"
[06:38] <darren> ok well thanks, cya
[07:21] <BHSPitMonkey> bugsquad!
[07:23] <secretlondon> morning
[08:03] <towsonu2001> hi
[08:04] <BHSPitMonkey> ho
[08:05] <towsonu2003> I love killing my ghost :)
[08:09] <BHSPitMonkey> that's a weird hobby
[08:10] <towsonu2003> ;)
[09:09] <dholbach> good morning
[09:14] <secretlondon> morning
[09:20] <dholbach> hey secretlondon
[09:20] <dholbach> how's it going?
[09:20] <secretlondon> it's going okay
[09:22] <dholbach> that's a good start ;-)
[09:23] <secretlondon> we have loads of installation bugs..
[09:23] <secretlondon> it seems like millions of them...
[09:36] <towsonu2003> had to compile xchat just to be able to use it. weird thing...
[10:17] <secretlondon> anyone know anything about lisp?
[10:17] <secretlondon> we have bug #69233
[10:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 69233 in common-lisp-controller "Cant' load common lisp library" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69233
[10:18] <secretlondon> which sounds fatal - but there's nothing in debian bugs about it and it was a straight sync from debian
[10:27] <towsonu2003> secretlondon, I guess we still have serious problems with our qa process...
[10:27] <secretlondon> towsonu2003: i think the problem with lisp is that it's a bit obscure i suppose
[10:28] <secretlondon> but I would expect if it was totally broken that debian would have a bug , and we would have more than 1
[10:28] <secretlondon> so I suspect it may be a support thing
[10:28] <towsonu2003> the obscure ones usually don't get tested in Debian and Ubuntu I think...
[10:29] <secretlondon> none of the lisp bugs seem to have been looked at
[10:29] <towsonu2003> don't get tested = don't get enough testing
[10:29] <secretlondon> debian has lisp bugs so people are using it
[10:29] <secretlondon> we could do with teams to forward these things to - like an Ubuntu AI language team (or something) who could do lisp and prolog
[10:30] <secretlondon> we are all generalists
[10:30] <towsonu2003> generalist?
[10:30] <secretlondon> we don't specialise
[10:31] <towsonu2003> would be nice to have sub-teams of ubuntu-bugs, and I proposed one, but ppl don't like the idea to specialize on bugs
[10:32] <towsonu2003> and in the meantime, for some packages, I wonder whether anyone from ubuntu tests the package after sync'ing it -but that's ranting of course :)
[10:33] <secretlondon> our team structure needs more work - we need a workflow to send bugs to places - some teams don't seem to want bugs (surprise!) and i get messages that non subscribers cannot post to email list if I subscribe them
[10:35] <towsonu2003> I'd send a proposition email to ubuntu-bugs if I were you. if they (we) get enough emails that propose to re-shape our group structure, I guess something can change?
[10:36] <secretlondon> no launchpad structure like that needs to be at mountain view
[10:36] <secretlondon> i'm not sure what is planned there
[11:02] <secretlondon> cinepaint still has unmet dependencies
[11:02] <secretlondon> (in edgy)
[11:03] <secretlondon> bug #65457
[11:03] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65457 in cinepaint "[UNMETDEPS]  cinepaint has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65457
[11:03] <secretlondon> How do we progress this?
[12:17] <topochan> hello
[12:19] <topochan> i've found some critical bugs, I've reported but they don't check in launchpad in 5 days
[12:22] <topochan> hello?
[12:22] <dholbach> topochan: hello, it's been a weekend in between and there was quite some stuff to get done after edgy release
[12:22] <dholbach> so please try to stay patient
[12:24] <topochan> ok, I hope help
[12:24] <dholbach> ok
[12:24] <dholbach> which bugs numbers were those?
[12:24] <topochan> one moment
[12:26] <topochan> Bug #68390
[12:26] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68390 in xorg "[Edgy] dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg fail to detect hardware" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68390
[12:26] <topochan> i've found the solution, install discover1 package
[12:27] <dholbach> perhaps you should add that information
[12:28] <dholbach> xserver-xorg recommends discover1 | discover
[12:30] <topochan> yeah, but discover is installed not discover1, in dapper the problem don't happen
[12:31] <dholbach> discover is installed?
[12:31] <dholbach> it's in universe
[12:31] <topochan> one moment
[12:32] <topochan> yeah, discover is not installed
[12:33] <topochan> but discover1 in clean installation is not installed too
[03:54] <bddebian> Boo
[04:07] <trappist> is Ubugtu not telling us about new bug reports?
[04:10] <pradeep> The last bug was around 13:45 IST
[04:14] <trappist> the last bug reported to launchpad, or the last bug mentioned by Ubugtu?
[04:33] <pradeep> trappist, on launchpad
[04:52] <sfllaw> Seveas: Ping?
[04:52] <sfllaw> Seveas: Ubugtu seems stalled.
[04:55] <gnomefreak> sfllaw: hes acting weird atm in -ops too but i dont think Seveas is around. maybe at work
[05:00] <dholbach> seb128: good work on the UpstreamDelta page
[05:46] <seb128> dholbach: thank you ;)
[06:38] <seb128> dholbach: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351603
[06:38] <seb128> dholbach: look at the number of dup
[06:38] <Ubug2> Gnome bug 351603 in time-admin "crash on Time and Date -- adjusting time" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] 
[06:38] <dholbach> HOLY FUCK
[06:39] <zul> hmm?
[06:39] <dholbach> seb128: we should consider turning bug-buddy off :-/
[06:39] <seb128> yeah
[06:39] <seb128> dholbach: <bkor> seb128: this weekend we had > 1000 bugreports/day
[06:40] <dholbach> they should have never unleashed bug-buddy to the masses like that :/
 it was a mistake to push that bug-buddy over xmlrpc before having bugzilla ready fo rit
[06:40] <seb128>  for it
[06:40] <seb128> ...
 didn't expect so many bugs already
[06:41] <seb128> ...
 I thought that would be in 2008 or so
[08:08] <xerxas> can someone help me on a bug ?
[08:08] <xerxas> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/9994
[08:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 9994 in gimp "Opening a file on an SMB share gave an error" [Unknown,Fix released] 
[08:08] <xerxas> fix released, since a long time , but doesn't work on edgy
[08:09] <xerxas> debian seem to have gimp-gnomevfs package
[09:37] <ausimage> Hello, I am experiencing a weird bug with Gnome's Remote Desktop... It is seeming to unset itself... when I come to access the desktop the next day after accessing it is giving me errors...
[09:38] <ausimage> Which package is this under is Vino or the Remote desktop applet??
[09:38] <Burgwork> what are you connecting to?
[09:38] <ausimage> My edgy ubuntu box....
[09:38] <Burgwork> vino
[09:39] <ausimage> The first time I tried it could not find it, the next it could not match the password... In Dapper I had no probs
[09:39] <ausimage> K
[11:42] <sfllaw> Seveas: Ping?