[05:59] <infinity> BenC: I'd kill for that "kernel that builds with linux32", by the way (Yes, I realise it's still your weekend)
[06:07] <fabbione> infinity: i spoke with him yesterday.. he should upload when he wakes up
[06:08] <fabbione> plus we still have a bunch of other issues before we can do some real work
[08:13] <infinity> fabbione: Yeah, I'm planning on bootstrapping hppa while I'm waiting on other toolchain stuff to fall into place.
[08:13] <fabbione> infinity: i am about to start a test rebuild of main on sparc
[08:14] <fabbione> infinity: we also have a new binutils for hppa
[08:14] <infinity> Yeahp, I know.
[08:14] <infinity> Jeff's been chatty out-of-band, as usual. :)
[08:15] <fabbione> the orig is on chinstrap and the debian dir in bzr
[08:19] <fabbione> infinity: do you want the build logs of edgy main on feisty toolchain?
[08:19] <fabbione> (sparc)
[08:20] <infinity> Sure, my old procmail rule should continue to catch them, yes?
[08:21] <fabbione> i think so
[08:22] <fabbione> what email address?
[08:22] <fabbione> ajmitch: i already removed you
[08:22] <ajmitch> thanks :)
[08:25] <fabbione> infinity: what was your email address? i can never remember it
[08:25] <fabbione> 0c3 something..
[08:27] <infinity> adconrad@0c3.net
[08:27] <infinity> (You could have asked LP)
[08:31] <fabbione> you are better than LP
[08:34] <infinity> I won't deny that claim.
[01:08] <zul> BenC: what time are you getting into UDS?
[01:32] <gebruiker> hello
[01:32] <gebruiker> where is the 2.6.17-686 kernel?
[01:33] <zul> its gone, you either get generic or 386 (although generic is kind of the equivalent)
[01:36] <gebruiker> what's the reason for not releasing 686?
[01:37] <gebruiker> I thought it would have a better performance inpact. I mean on 2.6.15-686 i play ppracer fine, but with 2.6.17-386 it doesn't go smooth as in the previous kernel 2.6.15-686
[01:38] <zul> easier to maintain besides generic is the equivalent
[01:41] <BenC> zul: I think around noon
[01:41] <zul> BenC: cool..
[01:42] <zul> going through sfo?
[01:42] <BenC> san jose
[01:42] <zul> heh ill be in san jose the same time
[02:03] <gebruiker> quick question what happend to the build directory of -generic?
[02:03] <gebruiker> 2.6.17-10-generic
[02:29] <infinity> BenC: Hey, you live.  Will I have a kernel in the queue when I wake up in ~7 hours?
[02:30] <BenC> infinity: Yep
[02:30] <infinity> Spiff.  Thanks.
[04:25] <zul> *sigh* friday cant come sooner enough
[04:33] <jbailey> BenC, fabbione: Around?
[04:34] <jbailey> I'm wondering if upping /proc/sys/net/core/{r,w}mem_default is ever harmful, or just potentially a waste of memory?
[04:52] <fabbione> yes i am 
[05:08] <BenC> jbailey: yeah
[05:26] <BenC> ethernet bridging is cool
[05:27] <jbailey> BenC: I remember reading about the direct bus-to-bus stuff for ethernet briding.
[05:27] <BenC> not much else you can do with a 6-port P4 1.2ghz, 256Meg ram machine
[05:27] <jbailey> I gather that if it could tell that the packet stream wasn't going through netfilter or something it could just flip the packets from one interface to the other and not make it CPU bound?
[05:27] <BenC> headless at that
[05:27] <BenC> jbailey: ooh, wonder if it's doing that
[05:28] <jbailey> Sure, P4 should have all the busmastering bits needed.
[05:29] <fabbione> BenC: we... need... kernel... we... hungry.. of ... new..crack...
[05:29] <BenC> fabbione: work is in progress :)
[05:29] <fabbione> ehhehe
[05:29] <BenC> should be uploading within a few hours
[05:29] <fabbione> ok
[05:30] <fabbione> jbailey: binutils looks ok on sparc.. builded glibc on top and gcc on top of glibc... no errors up till now
[05:30] <fabbione> it would have fallen apart a while ago
[05:30] <fabbione> anyway i am off for a bit
[05:30] <jbailey> up until now, like you just got an error, or like no errors so far? =)
[05:30] <fabbione> time to enjoy wife :)
[05:30] <fabbione> no errors so far
[05:30] <jbailey> Even better. =)
[05:31] <fabbione> i will need to teach you that we say the former in italian to indicate the latter
[05:31] <jbailey> lemme paste thjs into -toolchain for doko.
[05:31] <jbailey> fabbione: I'd love to learn italian one day. =)
[05:32] <zul> hey jbailey 
[05:33] <jbailey> Heya chuck!
[05:35] <zul> how is it going?
[05:37] <jbailey> Good.  busy as always.
[05:38] <zul> nice
[06:59] <kosnick> i tried to update kernel through synaptic , but synaptic search tool gives back only kernel version 2.4.sth . I have added extra repositories , is there any idea how can i get newer version of kernel through synaptic ( i wouldbn
[06:59] <kosnick> 't dare nstall it myself).
[07:01] <tfheen> sure?  you need to look for linux-image, not kernel-image
[07:01] <kosnick> i'll try that , thx
[07:03] <kosnick> tfheen : you were right , is there any command to help me find out which version i have now?
[07:10] <tfheen> uname -r
[07:10] <tfheen> (in a terminal)
[07:13] <kosnick> so i have 2.6.15-23-386 . If i get 2.6.15-23-k7 will i have to install all the apps from the begining in order to make them work with the K7 version?
[07:14] <tfheen> no
[07:15] <kosnick> ok thx
[10:05] <zul> so yeah...its a boy but that can change
[10:11] <BenC> zul: Usually if they say it's a boy, they are right 90% of the time...it's when they say it's a girl that the accuracy goes down :)
[10:12] <zul> yeppers katie has been telling me
[10:12] <zul> *sigh* another computer geek in the family ;)
[10:12] <ajmitch> what a shame :)
[10:12] <zul> heh
[10:29] <BenC> my fastest kernel upload ever
[10:30] <ajmitch> yay
[10:31] <ajmitch> updating external drivers is post-UDS?
[10:31] <BenC> most external drivers are there
[10:31] <BenC> missing a lot of acpi related ones though
[10:31] <BenC> and there's no LRM yet, but I suspect it will just build
[10:31] <BenC> I plan on having the kernel installable with LRM and linux-meta by UDS
[10:32] <ajmitch> right, I'll know not to test it then :)
[10:32] <BenC> I don't want to hold things off for three more weeks
[10:32] <BenC> it's pretty damn solid, I have most machines running it now
[10:33] <ajmitch> I don't think there's any hardware I particularly care about in my laptop that'll break, unless you're missing wireless firmware
[10:33] <BenC> if you don't need any special drivers (like ibm-acpi) or LRM (ipw3945, ati, nvidia, madwifi), then you can probably install it now
[10:34] <BenC> and even for ipw3945, it's as simple as copying existing /sbin/ipw3945d-*
[10:34] <ajmitch> just ipw2200, nothing special
[10:34] <BenC> you should be good then
[10:34] <ajmitch> great, I'll grab it once it's built
[10:36] <BenC> -1.1 is already there if you want to give that a go
[10:37] <BenC> brb