[12:01] <Thib_> on my fourth machine, the upgrade from Dapper to Edgy seems to have worked.
[12:01] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: I would recommend that you go through sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and put in the resolutions you desire and select the via driver
[12:01] <nbx909> nvm
[12:01] <nbx909> searched the forums and found a fix
[12:01] <nbx909> lol
[12:01] <dabaR> SlyGuy: "\ " for " " probably
[12:01] <Zyfo> dabaR, yes, I've got a .java file, no idea how to compile it though. I typed "java <filename>" and it gave me: "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:", I know this file works, since it did on WinXp
[12:01] <dbmonk74> rawk, thanks :)
[12:01] <zcat[1] > SlyGuy: just put it all in ""'s
[12:01] <dabaR> Zyfo: javac <filename>
[12:02] <Thib_> in Dapper, there was a System > Administration > Disks tool to see the various disks and CD drives and such
[12:02] <jasonp> nardis: It doesn't give me the option of choosing a drive at all. just goes straight to custom partitioning with nothing to select.
[12:02] <Thib_> I don't see it anymore
[12:02] <Thib_> has it been folded into some other admin tool?
[12:02] <Zyfo> dabaR, no such command
[12:02] <noxxle> seriously i cannot find an objective guide to beryl and compiz
[12:02] <noxxle> whats the difference
[12:02] <jasonp> nardis: never mind spent all evening on this and got work in the morning, tahnsk again, bye.
[12:02] <nardis_miles> jasonp: Do you have more than one drive in the box? Is the SATA drive already partitioned?
[12:02] <nathansnook7> after installing grub 6.10 I get grub error 18
[12:03] <nathansnook7> Is there a limit to the size of the partition that grub can work with?
[12:03] <kalikiana7> noxxle: beryl is a fork; it's less gnome-dependant and has a better gui
[12:03] <SlyGuy> thanks
[12:03] <Zyfo> dabaR, guess I need to dl smt, didn't find a package called javac, should I dl javacc?
[12:03] <noxxle> so beryl is better for kbunutu? and compiz for gnome?
[12:03] <dabaR> Zyfo: sun-java5-jdk
[12:03] <SlyGuy> whats the best way to do a backup before installing Edgy?
[12:03] <Rouli> hey guys: lil question again: why would firefox allow me to connect on the router cgi but not to the net -even though it is assigned an ip and stuff) (any other computer i plug is ok)
[12:03] <noxxle> these snake effects are annoying
[12:03] <Zyfo> dabaR, ah, thought I had it, ty
[12:04] <snook353> why does tome open 7 "term" windows?
[12:04] <SlyGuy> should just my home folder be good enough?
[12:04] <kalikiana7> noxxle: no, i think beryl is generally better - although compiz is said to be more stable
[12:04] <noxxle> i seeeeeeeee
[12:04] <noxxle> i seee
[12:04] <kalikiana7> noxxle: i did reduce the wobble :)
[12:04] <zcat[1] > beryl rocks.. but the snake effect (genie) is pretty lame, first thing I turned off...
[12:04] <Shogran> twb: now how would i go about wiring you a dollar?
[12:04] <noxxle> where is that wobble at
[12:05] <kalikiana7> noxxle: window movement or so
[12:05] <Gassed> hi
[12:05] <kalikiana7> in the settings manager
[12:05] <capiCrimm> on startup after dist-upgrade I get a weird tv-warning like screen with triangles and a load-bar in the center. Anyone know what it is or how to remove it?
[12:05] <zcat[1] > took me a while to find some of he options too, there's so MANY!!
[12:05] <dave> hey I need to remove a package from the repository the problem is its already removed and when I try to add a different package it gets stuck on the one it cannot remove?
[12:05] <Gassed> does anyone know anything about the Shoutcast broadcaster for Linux?
[12:05] <noxxle> i dont see it there
[12:06] <cge> For the Official Edgy CDs being sold by the three distributors listed, it is unclear whether these are pressed or burned, since most CDs on the sites are burned and there is nothing saying that they are pressed. Does anyone know what they actually are?
[12:06] <noxxle> where at exactly
[12:06] <wweasel> I'm having trouble removing a package. I get a "subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1".  I want to uninstall it, but I can't find a way. Help?
[12:06] <kalikiana7> sry, i confused it; pre-last  plugin is "wobbly"
[12:06] <nashnash> !spam c0nf
 sounds like we are in the same boat
[12:07] <wweasel> dave: you are getting the same error?
[12:07] <POVaddct> Tim90: did it work?
[12:07] <dave> yeah with brscan2
[12:07] <noxxle> what setting do i change in there
[12:07] <kitche> wweasel: how are you removing it with apt-get?
[12:07] <POVaddct> Tim90: my provider just terminated my dsl connection
[12:07] <dave> lol I cant remove it and I cant leave it
[12:07] <cge> wweasel: Which package?
[12:07] <Thib_> does anyone know what happened to System > Administration > Disks in Edgy? I don't see it anymore
[12:07] <cge> dave: Which package?
[12:08] <kalikiana7> noxxle: try for yourself the numeric values i suggest; i changed them so that it's much more calm
[12:08] <cge> Thib_: I think it has become GNOME Partition Manager
[12:08] <noxxle> i just did and it did nothing
[12:08] <cge> Thib_: s/Manager/Editor/
[12:08] <wweasel> cge: easyubuntu, installed from a deb. I did this months ago, forgot about it, and now I want to be rid of it.
[12:08] <heinouskyle> what is RandR?
[12:08] <wweasel> kitche: apt-get remove -P easyubuntu
[12:08] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: the via drivers aren't working either - i think i've let too many brain cells go to waste over the years.
[12:08] <cge> wweasel: Ah. That isn't too surprising.
[12:08] <dave> can I paste?
[12:08] <noxxle> most of these effects just slow shit down
[12:08] <cge> dave: No
[12:08] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: hehe
[12:09] <kingace> hi. im running 6.06 desktop and i want to install AMP.. could someone point me towards a good tutorial for this
[12:09] <zcat[1] > I've decided to stay with dapper on my main machines.. I might play with edgy on the laptop sometime.. the family's getting sick of me updating every 6 months, if I do it again they'll probably go install WinXP just to get me back :-)
[12:09] <dave> 3 lines?
[12:09] <wweasel> heinouskyle: Resolution and Rotation I believe
[12:09] <cge> dave: paste in #flood now
[12:09] <Thib_> cge: I don't see it either; or is the partition editor just not an icon in System > Administration?
[12:09] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: Are you restarting gdm?
[12:09] <kalikiana7> noxxle: yep, pure fancy eye-candies :/
[12:09] <kitche> wweasel: try dpkg or another way to remove the package
[12:09] <cge> Thib_: I have it there.
[12:09] <Zyfo> dabaR, sorry to bother you again: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: AK06_12/java <- managed to compile now, though now I got that error, and I'm sure it worked on WinXP
[12:09] <cge> kitche: That won't work
[12:09] <SlyGuy> i am surprised Ubuntu doesn't have a nice backup manager
[12:09] <wweasel> cge, kitche: tried dpkg. Tried upgrading.  It all gives the same error.
[12:09] <Thib_> cge: you have System > Administration > Partition Editor ?
[12:09] <noxxle> all i wanted was that cube thingy
[12:09] <cge> wweasel: dpkg won't work in that situation.
[12:09] <heinouskyle> why doesn't RandR work? i see errors regarding this every time i try to get compiz working
[12:09] <cge> Thib_: yes
[12:09] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: i've been doing it from a recovery command line, then going startx
[12:09] <Thib_> cge: I don't
[12:10] <cge> wweasel: Was it the prerm or the postrm script that was failing?
[12:10] <dave> done
[12:10] <zcat[1] > Woo, finally have enough -dev's to make ./configure happy.. now to make!
[12:10] <Thib_> how is that possible?
[12:10] <kalikiana7> noxxle: cube rotation?
[12:10] <noxxle> y
[12:10] <wweasel> cge: pre rem
[12:10] <cge> wweasel: Ok
[12:10] <packet> is it possible to change the curser color? I want to use a dark theme and a white cursor would be better.
[12:10] <kalikiana7> noxxle: just enable it and move the mouse off screen
[12:10] <noxxle> i know
[12:10] <cge> wweasel, dave: wait a minute while I recall how to fix this.
[12:10] <wweasel> cge: sure thing. thanks
[12:10] <dave> no worries
[12:10] <ianmacgregor> !backup > SlyGuy
[12:10] <dave> thx
[12:11] <dabaR> Zyfo: your program does not have a main method, so it can not be ran by itself.
[12:11] <Tennessee> G'day all... I just upgraded to edgy. Does anyone else have weird grub stuff going on? I can't see my boot manager any more ...
[12:11] <cge> dave: What you could try is to make those directories.
[12:11] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: i should mention that I'm running a 26" dell W2606C
[12:11] <dave> well then I should just install the debian package again and hope apt can remove it this time
[12:11] <Zyfo> dabaR, right, weird, thanks, I'll go look for it then xD (bash.org worthy tbh)
[12:12] <cge> dave: That might work. You can use apt-get install --reinstall
[12:12] <riddlebox> I have installed the mythtv packages and it created a mythtv user, but in the automatic login window I do not see that user listed?
[12:12] <dave> no apt doesnt work at all with this
[12:12] <dave> the removal is what it tries first
[12:12] <cge> wweasel, dave: I think you can edit the scripts at /var/lib/dpkg/info/PACKAGE-NAME.prerm so that they won't fail.
[12:13] <zabulus> I'm trying to use the live cd of ubuntu 5.10 on a powerbook g4 (mac) i can boot from the cd but when you come to the install, the install cant find my cdrom device? oO
[12:13] <cge> dave: Then you can try creating those directories with mkdir.
[12:13] <Thib_> cge: I don't have it in my menu, and it doesn't appear as an unselected choice for it in System > Preferences > Menu Layout
[12:13] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: Nice! But, that may be the problem right there.
[12:13] <zcat[1] > dave: hate when it gets deadlocked like that.. and I can never remember how to fix it either, even though I've had to do it about three times already!
[12:13] <dave> can I just remove the package name and trick apt into thinking its gone
[12:13] <jimmygoon> noxxle: are you straightened out now?
[12:13] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: i figured as much. should i take a bat to it?
[12:13] <cge> Thib_: I don't know then.
[12:13] <twb> jrib: worked fine.
[12:13] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: Absolutely not.. send it to me ;)
[12:13] <cge> dave: If you blank that script, then apt will think it uninstalled correctly.
[12:13] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: lol ;)
[12:13] <twb> Edgy boots MUCH faster, even without upstart really doing anything.
[12:14] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: any suggestions? (brb, stress cig.)
[12:14] <dave> where is the script?
[12:14] <Thib_> hmm :-|
[12:14] <cge> dave: For you it should be /var/lib/dpkg/info/brscan2.prerm
[12:14] <Thib_> does anyone have any idea why System > Administration > Partition Editor doesn't seem to exist for me?
[12:14] <dave> hot im gonna try it
[12:14] <cge> dave: Just change it to "#!/bin/sh", and that should work.
[12:14] <Kuberr> hey, i am having trouble adding extra reposititories (using ubuntu unofficial guide): i cant seem to contact http://packages.freecontrib.org....it gives me Temporary Failure in name resolution.
[12:14] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: Yes, have you tried http://ubuntuforums.org/  or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport ?
[12:15] <jimmygoon> Thib+ you don't have it installed"
[12:15] <jimmygoon> I believe it is gparted
[12:15] <Gassed> is there an alternative to Shoutcast broadcaster for Linux?
[12:15] <cge> wweasel: The same thing should work for you, with easyubuntu.prerm
[12:15] <wweasel> cge: same for me? change it?
[12:15] <dabaR> Kuberr: remove the freecontrib from your sources.list
[12:15] <wweasel> cge: ok
[12:15] <zcat[1] > Thib_: perhaps it's in Disks ?
[12:15] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: The ubuntu forums are quite awesome :)
[12:15] <dave> thats not a fix
[12:15] <cge> dave: Hmm...
[12:16] <cge> dave: I must have the wrong location for the script.
[12:16] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: I've puttered around the forums a bit - which did get me to actually being able to use the monitor at all :) not sure what search tearms I should be using at this point, but i need to clear my head a bit
[12:16] <cge> dave: You are still getting the same error message, or has the error changed?
[12:16] <wweasel> cge: No, that exists for me
[12:16] <zcat[1] > hmm.. nm, it's not :)
[12:16] <Thib_> zcat[1] : cge just told me that what was in Disks in Dapper was now in Partition Editor in Edgy, but I have neither
[12:16] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: i didn't know about the wiki however
[12:16] <Hagbard_3> Hey all... Got some isos that I wanna mount... I know howto use the mount command... but howto make them pop up as a cdrom that can be used by wine ?
[12:16] <zabulus> I'm trying to use the live cd of ubuntu 5.10 on a powerbook g4 (mac) i can boot from the cd but when you come to the install, the install cant find my cdrom device? oO
[12:16] <Thib_> (which prompted my question about Disks disappearing)
[12:16] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: Start a thread and include as much info as you can
[12:16] <Kuberr> how do i install adobe shockwave player with an amd64 setup?
[12:16] <twb> Thib_: try running `gparted'.
[12:16] <zcat[1] > alt-F2 and type gparted, probably.. not sure where it would be on the menus
[12:17] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: thanks, i think that's what i need to do next. :)
[12:17] <cge> Hagbard_3: Mount it with -o loop and then use winecfg to mount the directory?
[12:17] <twb> Kuberr: you can't.
[12:17] <capiCrimm> ping
[12:17] <dave> wow it wont install from dei now either lol
[12:17] <dbmonk74> ianmacgregor: I appreciate your help!
[12:17] <wweasel> dave, cge: it worked perfectly for me
[12:17] <dave> debi even
[12:17] <Thib_> twb: it didn't work, I don't seem to have it
[12:17] <ianmacgregor> dbmonk74: Any time :)
[12:17] <wweasel> cge: Thanks so much!
[12:17] <twb> Thib_: ok, aptitude install it, then.
[12:17] <cge> dave: Hmm...
[12:17] <dabaR> !iso
[12:17] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:17] <cge> dave: Could you post the removal error message in #flood?
[12:18] <Hagbard_3> dabaR: Learn to read.
[12:18] <Bacon5o> need some help with some driver issues
[12:18] <Thib_> twb: was it supposed to get installed during the Dapper-Edgy upgrade, then? I wouldn't think Disks would be folded into Partition Editor but Partition Editor somehow doesn't get installed when you upgrade...
[12:18] <Bacon5o> anyone willing?
[12:18] <wweasel> Hagbard_3: Be nice.
[12:18] <Hagbard_3> wweasel: I'm nice.
[12:18] <cge> Hagbard_3: It is a rather common problem with this channel. It goes by so fast that people don't realise when you are asking something unusual.
[12:18] <cge> Hagbard_3: But my advice should work.
[12:18] <twb> Thib_: are you shouting, or has rcirc been changed (again)?
[12:19] <Hagbard_3> cge: kk... Well I do expect ppl to at least read.
[12:19] <wweasel> Hagbard_3: As cge said, it goes by awfully quickly.
[12:19] <Hagbard_3> cge: Will try again
[12:19] <Hagbard_3> wweasel: yep...
[12:19] <Thib_> twb: I assure you I am not shouting
[12:19] <twb> Fair enough.
[12:19] <Heritz> Hello guys
[12:19] <nathansnook7> have a partition question
[12:19] <Hagbard_3> But it's a little frustating when ppl doesn't read more than one word.
[12:20] <Hagbard_3> Heritz: hey
[12:20] <twb> Thib_: surely the most important thing is to have gparted installed, not understand why it's not already installed?
[12:20] <Heritz> :D
[12:20] <packet> is it possible to change the default cursor color?
[12:20] <cge> dave: Oh! You're having a problem with the postrm script. So you need to blank the /var/lib/dpkg/info/brscan2.postrm
[12:21] <Heritz> Guys, do you have any source for the w32codecs package?
[12:21] <Heritz> I dont want to install automatix for this.
[12:21] <zcat[1] > !seveas
[12:21] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:21] <Thib_> twb: sorry, my initial question slipped to another question which got interpreted as my initial question
[12:21] <jimmygoon> Thib_ install gparted... I do believe that is "Partition Manager" in  GNOME
[12:21] <Heritz> Ok
[12:21] <zabulus> I'm trying to use the live cd of ubuntu 5.10 on a powerbook g4 (mac) i can boot from the cd but when you come to the install, the install cant find my cdrom device? oO
[12:21] <zcat[1] > fairly sure seveas has w32codecs
[12:21] <Thib_> jimmygoon: I just did but it doesn't show up in System > Administration (but maybe I would need to log out and back in)
[12:21] <jimmygoon> oh
[12:21] <cge> Hagbard_3: It is a problem with the user base of Ubuntu enlarging. We get so many people asking things like "How do you mount an iso?" that some people don't notice when someone asks "How do you mount an iso when {insert unusual situation here}?".
[12:21] <Thib_> let me restate my question/problem
[12:22] <jimmygoon> you could do "sudo killall gnome-panel" maybe
[12:22] <Thib_> in its current form.
[12:22] <jimmygoon> Or you could add in manually....
[12:22] <dabaR> cge: OK already.
[12:22] <cge> dabaR: I'm not complaining about it, it is quite understandable.
[12:23] <Thib_> I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy. When that ended, I was surprised that I no longer had System > Administration > Disks. I asked if that was normal and cge said that it had been folded into Partition Manager. I also don't have partition manager; I just installed it.
[12:23] <DarkFlib> just a quickie, whats the ubuntu equivilent to /etc/inittab?
[12:23] <cge> Thib_: It might have been something unusual with the upgrade.
[12:23] <qrwam4c> does anybody know how to fix that :|
[12:23] <qrwam4c> [fglrx]  module loaded - fglrx 8.29.6 [Sep 19 2006]  on minor 0
[12:23] <qrwam4c> [fglrx]  Internal AGP is not supported in 2.6 kernel.
[12:23] <qrwam4c> [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 3528 using kernel context 0
[12:23] <Thib_> so now the question is, would a successful Edgy upgrade actually install Partition Manager so that users can have access to the old functionality of Disks, or did my upgrade fail to do that?
[12:23] <cge> Thib_: You did have ubuntu-desktop installed, right?
[12:24] <Thib_> cge: yes.
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: ping
[12:24] <wsjunior> is it already possible to use bcm43xx in ubuntu 6.10?
[12:24] <Bacon5o> anyone have driver solutions for  ATI cards?
[12:24] <jimmygoon> Thib_ ... If I were thinking in terms of defending the upgrade process (and I am...) then I would assume since it was present... the upgrade left the package alone meaning that it was never integrated into the menu?
[12:24] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: pong
[12:24] <wsjunior> instead of ndiswrapper
[12:24] <cge> Thib_: My installation was done with debootstrap, a loop mounted edgy iso, and a dapper livecd, so my installation may be unusual, but let me check it.
[12:25] <wsjunior> Bacon5o: fglrx
[12:25] <jimmygoon> No....
[12:25] <jimmygoon> wait
[12:25] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Did you figure out my speaker stuff over the weekend?
[12:25] <qrwam4c> wsjunior:
[12:25] <qrwam4c> [fglrx]  module loaded - fglrx 8.29.6 [Sep 19 2006]  on minor 0
[12:25] <qrwam4c> [fglrx]  Internal AGP is not supported in 2.6 kernel.
[12:25] <qrwam4c> [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 3528 using kernel context 0
[12:25] <Thib_> jimmygoon: I don't know
[12:25] <qrwam4c> do u know how to fix that maybe?
[12:25] <jimmygoon> heck I dunna :P
[12:25] <Buglouse> what package do i install if gcc compiler isn't found?  I just installed Ubuntu and i need to install the .. 'installer'.
[12:25] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: I haven't looked. I don't have very much time these days/nights.
[12:25] <Bacon5o> wsjunior forgive my lack of intelligence, I dont knoe fglrx
[12:25] <NemesisD> hey guys, where do i get 3d drivers for my 7800gt? 3d rendering seems REALLY slow for some reason
[12:25] <Buglouse> and its not gcc.
[12:25] <NemesisD> and supplimental question, is a package available for said drivers
[12:26] <wsjunior> qrwam4c: i have an ati xpress 200m that just works with fglrx 8.24.8
[12:26] <cge> Buglouse: install build-essential
[12:26] <qrwam4c> :|
[12:26] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Understandable.  Seems theoretically possible though, right?  Just a matter of working stuff out for the codec?  (Is there a chance I'd be able to figure this out on my own, or is it pretty complicated?)
[12:26] <Buglouse> cge: ty
[12:26] <wsjunior> qrwam4c: it seems u need to recompile ur kernel and enable agpg
[12:26] <LjL> http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/1949/edgy200610291rz1.png <--- please look at this boot chart... an idea why it takes so long? (user says it gets stuck at about 20%)
[12:26] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: it's a matter of following the pin-outs, so no, it's not complicated. Then again I don't know your hardware's quirks.
[12:26] <hLord> anyone know how to sync my utorrent between xp and ubuntu?
[12:27] <qrwam4c> wsjunior: hmm i set it as a module
[12:27] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Is this a software thing or hardware modification?
[12:27] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: former
[12:27] <crimsun> it can be done completely in the driver
[12:27] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Have a URL to any good docs?
[12:27] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: for?
[12:27] <cge> Thib_: gparted doesn't _appear_ to be installed by default except on the livecd. Maybe you should ask whether it has been removed on #ubuntu-devel.
[12:27] <Tokenbad> is there a way to fix something like this..It says I have gtk 2 installed...?  checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[12:27] <Thib_> I would say it's a bug either way: if the icon was supposed to appear in the menu but didn't, there's a bug in at least some upgrade paths; and if the icon doesn't appear for anyone, that's a usability bug because many people probably expect to find something like "Disks" after upgrading.
[12:27] <Luakagon> Hi.  How do I get wireless internet working?
[12:27] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: you have the data sheet and access to the source code. Have at it.
[12:28] <cge> hLord: I don't believe that you can.
[12:28] <Thib_> cge: but do you have Disks, then? I mean, my initial question really amounted to: "That's weird, I don't seem to have any way to manage my disks anymore in Edgy"
[12:28] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Needing something to help me understand what I have.  Not a coder, so kind of lost when things get to that level.  :(
[12:28] <cge> Thib_: No, I don't have disks.
[12:28] <Acill> cant remember the mount command to mount a partition and name the mount something, something like sudo mount /dev/ddat boot
[12:28] <wsjunior> qrwam4c: check it as built-in
[12:28] <Luakagon> !ubotu ndiswrapper
[12:28] <Acill> cant i get some help?
[12:28] <Luakagon> !help ndiswrapper
[12:28] <cge> Thib_: But the way your question is going, you should probably ask on devel
[12:28] <wsjunior> qrwam4c: and also ur chipset
[12:28] <qrwam4c> wsjunior: also as build in ?
[12:28] <hLord> anyone know how to sync my utorrent between xp and ubuntu?
[12:29] <wsjunior> Luakagon: whats ur wireless card?
[12:29] <Thib_> cge: ah, so it seems to be the case that the disk management tool is just no longer offered.
[12:29] <wsjunior> qrwam4c: yes
[12:29] <qrwam4c> wsjunior:  thats the chipset from graphic card or mobo :p
[12:29] <Thib_> cge: what's devel?
[12:29] <cge> Could someone running a normal edgy install tell Thib_ whether System->Administration->Disks is there or not?
[12:29] <Acill> can anyone give me a hand?
[12:29] <cge> Thib_: #ubuntu-devel
[12:29] <dabaR> Acill: run sudo fdisk -l, ls /mnt, ls /media and then show the output on the pastebin from the topiv
[12:29] <Luakagon> wsjunior, Linksys wpc54g
[12:29] <hLord> can any1 help pls?
[12:29] <cge> Thib_: The channel for ubuntu development.
[12:29] <chad> I had noticed that 'Disks' was gone but they now have 'Disk usage analyzer' in the Applications->accessories menu
[12:29] <Thib_> cge: oh lol, okay.
[12:29] <Thib_> cge: I didn't know this existed.
[12:30] <cge> hLord: I really don't think you can do that.
[12:30] <igorzolnikov> I tried "sudo apt-get update" and have got Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Translation-en_GB. Why? What is "Ign"?
[12:30] <cafuego> !bcm43xx > Luakagon
[12:30] <hLord> anyone know how to sync my utorrent between xp and ubuntu?
[12:30] <wsjunior> Luakagon: first check if it is supported by bcm43xx before use ndiswrapper..
[12:30] <igorzolnikov> I tried "sudo apt-get update" and got Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Translation-en_GB. Why? What is "Ign"?
[12:30] <Acill> dabar I just want to mount hda1 so I can edit a text file in it.
[12:30] <cge> hLord: What exactly is it that you want to do?
[12:30] <cge> igorzolnikov: The package list didn't change.
[12:30] <wsjunior> Luakagon: search at bcm43xx homepage.. u can find it at google..
[12:30] <Luakagon> wsjunior, :o what's bcm43xx? ok then thakns
[12:30] <dabaR> igorzolnikov: don't repeat that often, it means it did not see anything in the repo of interest and is ignoring it.
[12:31] <dabaR> Acill: well, I just want you to do what I said, so I can help you do what you want.
[12:31] <wsjunior> Luakagon: its a module that has native support for a lot of cards..
[12:31] <hLord> anyone know how to sync my utorrent between xp and ubuntu?
[12:31] <qrwam4c> wsjunior: in that agpg should which chipset should i select ? that one from graphic card ?
[12:31] <cge> hLord: You need to explain more clearly what you want to do.
[12:31] <Acill> dabar: okay, need to go over to mu ubuntu box then
[12:31] <Acill> brb
[12:31] <cge> hLord: Asking the same question repeatedly won't help.
[12:32] <igorzolnikov> dabaR, Why is ignoring it?
[12:32] <hLord> cge, the utorrent settings are in an ntfs partition, i'm trying to keep them between xp and wining utorrent, however the settings are not read, does anyone know how i can save my settings
[12:32] <RyanTMulligan> What's up with the ubuntuforums.org?
[12:32] <dabaR> igorzolnikov: cause it does not find it interesting
[12:32] <Kallel> hi
[12:33] <Kallel> what should be the $HOME permissions ?
[12:33] <Acill> okay
[12:33] <Acill> what do you want me to type?
[12:33] <wsjunior> qrwam4c: mobo
[12:33] <cge> hLord: You could probaby take the settings from the ntfs partition and put them in the appropriate place in ~/.wine/drive_c/, which is the location of the C:\ drive for wine.
[12:33] <dabaR> Kallel: whatever you want them to be, 711 is what I have
[12:33] <dabaR> Acill: run sudo fdisk -l, ls /mnt, ls /media and then show the output on the pastebin from the topic
[12:33] <Kallel> whats the default in ubuntu
[12:33] <hLord> cge, thanks, but that doesnt work
[12:33] <zabulus> I'm trying to use the live cd of ubuntu 5.10 on a powerbook g4 (mac) i can boot from the cd but when you come to the install, the install cant find my cdrom device? oO
[12:33] <dabaR> Kallel: 755, I guess.
[12:34] <cge> hLord: Oh, are the settings in the registry then?
[12:34] <Kallel> i changed them by mistake and I want to make them as default
[12:34] <qrwam4c> wsjunior: hmm really so i should check the ati chipset / doh that might be a solution case i thought it had to do w/ graphic card and i only selected the ati ...
[12:34] <wsjunior> Kallel: drwxr-xr-x
[12:34] <hLord> cge, yes
[12:34] <qrwam4c> shouldnt *
[12:34] <tat> Kallel: if you dont want anyone else looking in your homedir, use 700..
[12:34] <Kallel> oh
[12:34] <wsjunior> qrwam4c: :)
[12:34] <Kallel> thats 755 indeed
[12:34] <cge> hLord: The wine registry is in the .reg files in ~/.wine
[12:34] <Acill> dabar: its not working
[12:35] <hLord> cge, i'll try that
[12:35] <Kallel> thanks
[12:35] <zabulus> can anybody help or let me know what can be the problem?
[12:35] <hLord> thx
[12:35] <qrwam4c> wsjunior: thank you :P will give a shot :P
[12:35] <wsjunior> np
[12:35] <cge> hLord: I hope that works. You might need to export the registry settings into another format, I'm not sure. I haven't run Windows in years.
[12:35] <jordanau> anybody have a fix for the mplayer breakage?
[12:35] <dabaR> Acill: what is not working? those are 3 separate commands for you to run, delimited by ","s
[12:35] <crimsun> jordanau: what breakage?
[12:36] <RyanTMulligan> Is ubuntuforums.org down for others?
[12:36] <zabulus> the install cant find the cdrom on install when using live cd? anyone a solution? i have a powerbook g4 (mac)
[12:36] <cge> RyanTMulligan: It is quite slow for me.
[12:37] <cge> RyanTMulligan: ... but not down.
[12:37] <RyanTMulligan> cge: hmm okay
[12:37] <Gassed> does anyone know an alternative to sc_trans (Shoutcast DSP for Linux) ???
[12:37] <Acill> dabar: I figured it out
[12:37] <RyanTMulligan> cge: I must be further up the wire than you ;)
[12:37] <chad> the forums are working quite well here
[12:37] <cge> RyanTMulligan: You might be able to find more information in the #ubuntuforums channel.
[12:37] <Rothguard>  how do i stop that rain effect  on xgl/beryl????
[12:37] <dabaR> RyanTMulligan: http://www.dnsstuff.com/
[12:37] <Heritz> Rothguard: what rain effect?
[12:38] <Acill> dabar: I typed sudo mount /dev/hda1 /boot that mounted it as boot
[12:38] <MarcN> Anyone have a using a palm pilot with Edgy?  I can't sync, but it could be the pilot I suppose.  Neither ir nor USB tty works.  It does charge however...
[12:38] <Rothguard> where the water drops fall on the screen
[12:38] <zcat[1] > turn off the water ..
[12:38] <totall_6_7> Rothguard: it should be shift-F9
[12:38] <cafuego> Rothguard: in the beryl settings applet
[12:38] <rpedro> anyone getting a crash when starting AMAROK on Edgy?
[12:39] <Rothguard> its gone spazz and is using %100 cpu
[12:39] <dabaR> Gassed: http://darkice.sourceforge.net/
[12:39] <hLord> rpedro, yes, and i had to recompile it from source
[12:39] <dabaR> Acill: ya, not sure about your choice of mount point, but good work.
[12:39] <Gassed> dabaR: .. mind helping me compile?
[12:39] <zcat[1] > anyone getting gnome-terminal crashing several times a day on dapper? -- three different machines so I think it's not just my hardware or config.
[12:39] <dabaR> Gassed: they h ave this in apt
[12:39] <Gassed> dabaR: I couldnt get it
[12:40] <totall_6_7> Rothguard: unless you changed the default setting to turn off rain is shift-F9
[12:40] <Gassed> dabaR: It says there is no package named darkice
[12:40] <Voltage> Hey all, need some major help with my Ubuntu install
[12:40] <Xzyx987X> hmm... I just tried to install kubuntu 6.10 on my new sata drive, but it just hangs when I try to boot from it
[12:40] <rpedro> hLord: can you still run the version from the repos? do you have a launchpad account with which to confirm a bug?
[12:40] <Voltage> messed up my display drivers big time :(
[12:40] <Xzyx987X> any ideas?
[12:40] <rpedro> hLord: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/63893
[12:40] <Acill> dabar: I only wanted to see a file on there so I could edit it is all
[12:40] <zabulus> the install cant find the cdrom on install when using live cd? anyone a solution? i have a powerbook g4 (mac)
[12:41] <Acill> I use a Pegasos II machine to boot Ubuntu PPC and am about to edit my boot menu forth script so I can boto into it
[12:41] <dabaR> Gassed: make your /etc/apt/sources.list look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29235/
[12:41] <fatlip> trying to capture DV.. says raw1394 module isnt loaded
[12:41] <Xzyx987X> I set the swap as the first partition, I dunno if that would screw up the bootability
[12:41] <Xzyx987X> it bootability even a word? :P
[12:42] <Voltage> would someone be so kind as to help me sort out my video card driver issue?
[12:42] <niall> hi, im tryin to learn how to install games but im findin it really hard
[12:42] <Bacon5o> if anyone is capable of talking with me, I could use some help settling some driver issues
[12:42] <zcat[1] > Xzyx987X: a perfectly cromulent word!
[12:42] <music_man_nz> Hi. I have some files on a webserver that are CHMODDed to 777. I connect to the server in Ubuntu and open the files in gEdit and they are [Read Only] . The files have full permissions and still I can't edit them?
[12:42] <Rothguard> arg my system hung  O_o
[12:42] <Xzyx987X> but anyway, could that potentially cause the drive to not boot?
[12:42] <Bacon5o> !boot
[12:42] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:42] <dabaR> niall: we are sorry to hear that......
[12:42] <Gassed> dabaR: Thanks
[12:42] <preaction> music_man_nz, probably due to the way you're connecting to the web server
[12:42] <uber_mort> music_man_nz: How are you connecting to the server?
[12:43] <Gassed> dabaR: Now how do I get it up?
[12:43] <music_man_nz> through ftp with login
[12:43] <Xzyx987X> I'd like to have the swap be the first partinion since it'd be faster that way...
[12:43] <niall> dabaR any ideas
[12:43] <dabaR> Gassed: ask your gf...
[12:43] <Gassed> dabaR: ?
[12:43] <preaction> music_man_nz, is your ftp user allowed to write?
[12:43] <music_man_nz> Yes, it is the owner of all the files...
[12:44] <linuxnoob> hello guys
[12:44] <music_man_nz> I can edit the files in cpanel whilst logged in as this user
[12:44] <andresmujica> Xzyx987X: in theory , as long as you boot partition is under 1024 cylinders, it would boot just fine. In fact the limit of 1024 cyl is history now.
[12:44] <zabulus> the install cant find the cdrom on install when using live cd? anyone a solution? i have a powerbook g4 (mac)
[12:45] <Xzyx987X> is there a quick way to manually check if the boot loader is set up correctly?
[12:45] <andresmujica> Xzyx987X: so probably you wouldn't have any issues. just be sure that your boot partition has the active or bootable flag set and that the MBR is at the start of your disk
[12:45] <dabaR> gasbag: man darkice, man darkice.cfg, read the manuals on their page...i never used that
[12:45] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: boot the system?
[12:45] <Xzyx987X> lol, well that didn't work
[12:45] <music_man_nz> The files have been set to full permissions (777) and I double click on them from the server explorer window, it opens in gEdit and it is Read Only
[12:46] <linuxnoob> when i ./configure it says gtk+ > 1.2.*** isn't installed.. .even though it is
[12:46] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: then its not ok
[12:46] <dabaR> gasbag: sorry
[12:46] <xyzn00b> how can i use my pc as an alarm clock?
[12:46] <Xzyx987X> ok, so how do I set the partition to active bootable?
[12:46] <Xzyx987X> btw, I'm a linux noob here
[12:46] <Xzyx987X> this is my first install
[12:46] <linuxnoob> cfdisk
[12:46] <zcat[1] > Xzyx987X: a perfectly cromulent word!
[12:46] <linuxnoob> fdisk
[12:46] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: define "didn't work"
[12:46] <zcat[1] > oops, sorry..
[12:47] <andresmujica> fdisk -l  and look for the partition with the * at the boot column, it must be your bootable partition..
[12:47] <music_man_nz> How can I make it so that I can edit my files in gEdit please?
[12:47] <Xzyx987X> the bios hung without even showing a bootloader screen
[12:47] <linuxnoob> when i ./configure it says gtk+ > 1.2.*** isn't installed.. .even though it is
[12:47] <juaaaa> me chupa la pija vo y tu vieja yo ya me voy a comer
[12:47] <linuxnoob> anyone know why???
[12:47] <andresmujica> but that's not guarantee of no problems
[12:47] <ianmacgregor> music_man_nz: You mean system files?
[12:47] <music_man_nz> no
[12:47] <dabaR> music_man_nz: why are yuo unable to edit them?
[12:47] <xyzn00b> how can i use my pc as an alarm clock?
[12:47] <sss> g
[12:47] <sss> f
[12:47] <sss> f
[12:47] <sss> f
[12:47] <sss> f
[12:47] <sss> f
[12:47] <sss> f
[12:47] <music_man_nz> from my webserver
[12:47] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: did you mess with the bootloader config after the install, or is this the default?
[12:47] <niall> when i downloaded the game, a box comes up when i click the box a list of other things appear
[12:47] <zcat[1] > linuxnoob: gtk+-dev perhaps?
[12:47] <Voltage> can someone PM me regarding restoring a ubuntu install with incorrect video card drivers?
[12:48] <zcat[1] > xyzn00b: crontab playing some mp3's
[12:48] <xyzn00b> zcat[1] : I have 0 mp3s
[12:48] <linuxnoob> ZCAT [1] : i have it installed promise
[12:48] <Xzyx987X> it's default
[12:48] <Vladaz> hello
[12:48] <linuxnoob> ive checked multiple times
[12:48] <andresmujica> xyzn00b: so your boot loader is incorrectly installed..
[12:48] <Xzyx987X> I just set up the partinions manually
[12:48] <music_man_nz> is there another thing I have to do to make the files not read-only according to gEdit? They are chmodded to 777...
[12:48] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: so it didn't boot after the install?
[12:48] <Xzyx987X> nope
[12:48] <thompa> does ubuntu have an easy disk mount option like kubuntu?
[12:48] <xyzn00b> andresmujica: You mean the other xyz person
[12:49] <dabaR> linuxnoob: why dont you show the error and aptitude search gtk|grep dev results on a pastebin?
[12:49] <andresmujica> sooryy it was for xzyx:
[12:49] <xyzn00b> lol
[12:49] <linuxnoob> goes over head
[12:49] <linuxnoob> sorry
[12:49] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: what kind of disk controller?
[12:49] <Vladaz> i finally was able to install ubuntu! yey:) do I have to install ati radeon graphics drivers to have 3d accelaration or does it have by default ?
[12:49] <music_man_nz> is there anyone here who could answer? If not, I shall look elsewhere
[12:49] <Xzyx987X> uh, let's see...
[12:49] <xyzn00b> how do I set up a cron?
[12:49] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell xyzn00b about cron
[12:49] <Xzyx987X> it's an nforce 3 mobo...
[12:49] <Zyfo> I'm using cream, when I press escape I don't go to expert mode, and when I go to settings>pref>expert mode I'm still not in it, I just keep typing in the doc I created. How do I get to type these :commands?
[12:49] <linuxnoob> i cant install anything in ubuntu so i have to switch to windows to chat in this channel
[12:49] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: do you even see the grub menu?
[12:50] <dabaR> music_man_nz: you haev to ask a better question, what files, why can't you edeit them?
[12:50] <Xzyx987X> it hangs while still on the post screen
[12:50] <music_man_nz> I have been explaining myself the whole time. I'll try again
[12:50] <Bacon5o> anyone have a solution for linksys wireless access points that are used with USB ports?
[12:50] <thompa> anyone know why ubuntu does not mount a second hard drive automatically?
[12:50] <dabaR> music_man_nz: you can sudo chown -R <user>:<user> /var/www if you are the sudo user, and <user> is your username
[12:50] <linuxnoob> This chanel is FUCKING CHAOS!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:51] <krazykit> !language > linuxnoob
[12:51] <linuxnoob> sorry
[12:51] <thompa> linuxnoob: chill dude
[12:51] <Bacon5o> anyone have a solution for linksys wireless access points that are used with USB ports?
[12:51] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: it sounds like its not even getting to the bootloader stage then
[12:51] <noobie0057> hi, can someone direct me to video editing software and perhaps a turtoial on video editing, I'm trying gimp with gap with no luck
[12:51] <dabaR> linuxnoob: libgtk1.2-dev is the package you need anyhow
[12:51] <Xzyx987X> ok, I actually have two controllers for sata, I'mm going to make sure the bootloader is set up with fdisk and try hooking up the drive to the other controller
[12:51] <Voltage> can someone PM me regarding restoring a ubuntu install with incorrect video card drivers?
[12:51] <krazykit> and of course it's chaos, linuxnoob, there was just a major release.  there are lots of great answer if you bother to search.  man pages, google, the wiki, the forums
[12:51] <dabaR> linuxnoob: or even libgtk2.0-dev maybe.
[12:52] <music_man_nz> I have some files on a webserver. They are chmodded to 777. I open the "Connect to Server" application and connect to the webserver. I see my files and I double click on one (it is chmodded to 777). It opens in gEdit and is [Read Only]  despite the fact the file is chmodded to 777 (full permissions)
[12:52] <Bacon5o> anyone have a solution for linksys wireless access points that are used with USB ports?
[12:52] <linuxnoob> dabaR both the first one is installed... libgtk1.2-dev
[12:52] <xyzn00b> how can i loop an mp3?
[12:52] <dabaR> !kino
[12:52] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: fdisk doesn't set up the bootloader
[12:52] <ubotu> kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.90-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1093 kB, installed size 3860 kB
[12:52] <Badkitty> herro
[12:52] <silox> how do i change priveliges in vsftpd so a user can only access its home folder and NOT view the other folders?
[12:52] <dabaR> noobie0057: that is a program that can be used for that.
[12:52] <krazykit> music_man_nz: it's connected with ftp?  if so, you can't just edit like that.
[12:52] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: grub is the bootloader.  grub-install <device> is the command that installs it onto the boot sector
[12:52] <music_man_nz> why not? I could in Quanta Plus
[12:52] <Xzyx987X> ah, ok
[12:53] <dabaR> xyzn00b: loop it? in what program?
[12:53] <music_man_nz> I can also write new files to the server from within gEdit
[12:53] <krazykit> music_man_nz: because if it's ftp, the ftp protocol doesn't support that.
[12:53] <zabulus04> the install cant find the cdrom on install when using live cd? anyone a solution? i have a powerbook g4 (mac)
[12:53] <krazykit> music_man_nz: it'd be easier to ssh in and use nano/vi/emacs
[12:53] <xyzn00b> dabaR: any. i want to make a cron for an alarm clock
[12:53] <Badkitty> Does anyone use a pci wireless card on edgy and have it working???
[12:53] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: you mean you used fdisk instead of the ubuntu installer gui to partition and assign mount points?
[12:53] <wikijeff> What is the program which lets me configure GNOME's settings, such as what special icons to have on the desktop??
[12:53] <music_man_nz> I can save files to the server from within gEdit if it is a new file
[12:53] <Xzyx987X> no, I didn't
[12:53] <teledyn> ah ok
[12:53] <thompa> im using ubuntu 64 and I can notice smoother performance and no increase usage of RAM
[12:53] <krazykit> !wireless > Badkitty
[12:53] <music_man_nz> It probably saves to a temporary file then uploads and rewrites. I don't know how it does it, but I have done it before
[12:54] <teledyn> yeah try switiching controllers maybe
[12:54] <noobie0057> dabaR: it's just hard to use, I just want a power point like presentation. I tried OO but it didn't have video
[12:54] <thompa> so why is there no disk mount utility in administration??
[12:54] <music_man_nz> How come I can save a file to the server from within gEdit if it si a new one then?
[12:54] <teledyn> are both controllers bootable?
[12:54] <dabaR> wikijeff_: gconf-editor
[12:54] <silox> How do i change in vsftpd so a user can only access its home folder and NOT view the other folders??? Please help!
[12:54] <Badkitty> Krazykit.... I  have tried all the wiki's but I cannot get it to work, and I have read that my card has had problems since dapper
[12:54] <wikijeff> dabaR thanks
[12:54] <krazykit> music_man_nz: dunno.  i don't use gedit, but i'd think it uploads the new file, or some gnome-vfs magic is working in the background
[12:55] <krazykit> Badkitty: what chipset?
[12:55] <Badkitty> http://www.nabble.com/RaLink-rt2500-wireless-cards----edgy-regression--t2401872.html
[12:55] <music_man_nz> Yes, so how come it can't do the same thing with these files that are 777!?
[12:55] <dabaR> silox: disallow access to other directories using the standard permission system
[12:55] <xyzn00b> How can I loop an mp3 from the console (e.g. in a cron)?
[12:55] <Badkitty> Ralink 2500
[12:55] <teledyn> silox: this is the ubuntu forum.  maybe they have a man page or a mailing list for technical questions
[12:55] <silox> dabaR i only have access to it with ssh (the server)
[12:55] <krazykit> music_man_nz: because maybe the gnome-vfs magic doesn't support EDITING files that are already there?
[12:55] <dabaR> music_man_nz: is the directory 777 to which you are writing?
[12:55] <Badkitty> Im trying to find someone that has one working, then I'll just go get a new card
[12:55] <dabaR> silox: man chmod
[12:55] <MarcN> xyzn00b: the command 'play' should play the mp3 for you.
[12:56] <silox> dabaR that doesnt help i can still view them
[12:56] <dabaR> xyzn00b: cplay -r <filename>
[12:56] <mcquaid> hmm, twice in the last two days I've come back to my computer and I've been logged out just back to the gdm screen
[12:56] <Bacon5o> Meh..
[12:56] <teledyn> Badkitty: i use wireless pcmcia cards which are basically the same
[12:56] <music_man_nz> Yes it is.
[12:56] <bcnewman> screensaver will work in preview mode, but will not launch automatically when idle ... any ideas?
[12:56] <h3lt3r_sk3lt3r> hello all
[12:56] <Bacon5o> teledyn, I need help on that exact issue
[12:56] <krazykit> Badkitty: i had a ralink card working perfectly around this time last year.  maybe you just dno't have it set up right.  check dmesg for any kinds of errors
[12:56] <mcquaid> i don't see anything in dmesg not xorg.log, anywhere else I should look?
[12:57] <xyzn00b> dabaR: cplay command not fount
[12:57] <music_man_nz> This sucks. nvu, quanta and bluefish are all rubbish
[12:57] <mcquaid> er nor xorg.log
[12:57] <xyzn00b> MarcN: play command not found
[12:57] <dabaR> xyzn00b: install it...and mpg123 mpg321 for cplay to be able to play mp3s
[12:57] <elriah> Hi all.  Anyone here running Etch and use Zend Studio?  I can't get it installed.  Says it's missing libc.so.6
[12:57] <unixslut> Hi
[12:57] <krazykit> music_man_nz: boohoo.  write your own program then.
[12:57] <^punisher> sup
[12:57] <Badkitty> I had mine working fine in dapper yes, using ndiswrapper, but it wont work in edgy, I've tried even 3 different builds
[12:57] <jontec> hey, I am having trouble with sound in wine. Someone want to help?
[12:57] <music_man_nz> gEdit is nice to use and if only it could write to files that are already there! All the files are 777
[12:57] <alecjw> bcnewman: did you tell it to launch the screensaver when your computer is idle
[12:57] <loki505> everytime i play a dvd itll play and start automatically but it wont go to the menu
[12:57] <Badkitty> I got it orking on my laptime just fine, but not on my desktop
[12:57] <loki505> the main menu
[12:57] <AdamKili> help: configure: error: Can't find "javac" in your PATH
[12:57] <Bacon5o> whats the terminal command to view my existing partitions?
[12:57] <^punisher> private
[12:57] <krazykit> Badkitty: again, check dmesg to see if there's anything funny going on
[12:58] <ianmacgregor> music_man_nz: Where are the files?
[12:58] <BooBar> jontec: so am i
[12:58] <teledyn> Bacon5o: fdisk -l <dev>
[12:58] <music_man_nz> krazykit: no lol. If Ubuntu is trying to get people to convert from Windows, perhaps they should offer better tools? The idea of compiling and so forth just doesn't cut it for such a consumer dictated market
[12:58] <Bacon5o> thanks tele
[12:58] <dabaR> elriah: do you have libc6 installed?
[12:58] <jontec> BooBar: you using edgy? coz I'm having trouble with it on dapper... O_o
[12:58] <music_man_nz> They are on a webserver with full permissions
[12:58] <BooBar> yeah edgy
[12:58] <teledyn> is it possible to not have libc6 installed?
[12:58] <krazykit> music_man_nz: or maybe it's not ubuntu's job to try to cater to someone trying to edit soem files connected via a protocol that doesn't support that.
[12:58] <ianmacgregor> music_man_nz: Have you tried: gksudo gedit ?
[12:58] <h3lt3r_sk3lt3r> I've got a question, when installing ubuntu 6.06 dapper from a dvd, how can I transfer all of the content of the dvd to the hard drive so when I'm adding new components it won't be asking me to insert the ubuntu dvd into the dvd drive?
[12:59] <bcnewman> alecjw: yes, that option is checked in Screensaver prefs
[12:59] <AdamKili> help please: configure: error: Can't find "javac" in your PATH
[12:59] <alecjw> bcnewman: and you've set the screensaver idle time correctly?
[12:59] <music_man_nz> krazykit: I also do website design as my job. Hence the need for a good IDE. Good programs would support that protocol (being very prominent)
[12:59] <Badkitty> Argh
[12:59] <jrib> jordanau: what mplayer breakage?
[12:59] <music_man_nz> gksudo gedit?
[12:59] <jrib> mplayer plugin makes my X lock up (mouse pointer can move but no keyboard response; forced to do a hard reboot).  It seems to happen with some wmv9 videos.  I'm not sure about it being related to a specific format.  What I am sure about is that it only happens with the binary nvidia drivers, it does not happen with the open source nv ones.  What can I do if I want to use the nvidia binary ones?  Any info about this?
[12:59] <jrib> !cron > Xzyx987X
[12:59] <jrib> erm ignore that Xzyx987X
[12:59] <krazykit> music_man_nz: what protocol are you connected by then?  if it's ftp, then you're connected wrong.
[12:59] <jrib> !cron xyzn00b
[12:59] <BooBar> jontec: i installed reason and cant get any sound out of it
[12:59] <jrib> !cron > xyzn00b
[12:59] <jrib> music_man_nz: what file?
[01:00] <jrib> jordanau: spanish in #ubuntu-es please.  and be respectful please.
[01:00] <jrib> the xyz xzy gues should get better names :)
[01:00] <jrib> music_man_nz: you haven't told us which files
[01:00] <jrib> !language | linuxnoob
[01:00] <ubotu> linuxnoob: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:00] <mikeymike-linux> how would someone uninstall xserver-xorg
[01:00] <teledyn> jrib: maybe try the vlc plugin instead
[01:00] <music_man_nz> they are .php files on a webserver
[01:00] <bcnewman> alecjw: it is set at 10 minutes ... I have set it for different intervals as well, also when I lock the screen the screen just fades to black, but no s-saver
[01:00] <mikeymike-linux> so that they can install xserver-xorg-air-core
[01:00] <Badkitty> I don't have a herd line so I cant use the internet while I am in ubuntu because the wireless doesn't work... i think im screwed, unless someone knows a wireless card pci card that works with edgy
[01:00] <MrUbuntu> Uhhhhh u tried wrappers ?
[01:00] <Badkitty> yup
[01:00] <teledyn> jrib: was that a batch help response?
[01:00] <music_man_nz> What would gksudo gedit do?
[01:01] <alecjw> h3lt3r_sk3lt3r: why don't you use edgy rather than dapper?
[01:01] <mikeymike-linux> music_man_nz, its like sudo for x
[01:01] <Vladaz> has anyone ran WoW on ubuntu?
[01:01] <jrib> teledyn: wow that was a while ago :)  I'm using the xine one at the moment, but would really prefer to figure out what is going on with mplayer plugin and nvidia drivers
[01:01] <darkaura> got a question how would i go about changing the picture of my login screen
[01:01] <Bacon5o> wow, I cant figure out my root password
[01:01] <ben_> hey
[01:01] <Vladaz> please PM me
[01:01] <Vladaz> I need help
[01:01] <krazykit> !root > Bacon5o
[01:01] <Bacon5o> !root
[01:01] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:01] <teledyn> jrib: some players just crash sometimes on things.  that's why i have 3 players installed
[01:01] <alecjw> Vladaz: what do you need help with
[01:01] <Bacon5o> i know what my password is krazy, I've done sudo billions of tims
[01:01] <KrakensDen> howdy
[01:01] <music_man_nz> It seems baffling how gEdit can read my files from an ftp server, write new files to the server and yet not edit existing ones
[01:02] <h3lt3r_sk3lt3r> alecjw I'd use anything, I just have a copy of dapper already, if it's possible with dapper I don't want to upgrade to edgy yet
[01:02] <mikeymike-linux> how would someone uninstall xserver-xorg so that they can install xserver-xorg-air-core
[01:02] <teledyn> jrib: if you really want to try and find out, you can strace it
[01:02] <jrib> teledyn: k, thanks for the vlc suggestion
[01:02] <MrUbuntu> BadKitty: U tried NDISwrapper ?
[01:02] <krazykit> Vladaz: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1922
[01:02] <teledyn> Badkitty: you haven't even told us about the card you have. other than that its PCI.  how can we possbly help?
[01:02] <VrilutZa> how to remove ubuntu linux?
[01:02] <VrilutZa> :D
[01:02] <Bacon5o> krazy, I'm trying to use a binary for installation, when I type "su" then my password, it doesn't accept it
[01:02] <Badkitty> Yes I have tried ndiswrapper. It worked with dapper but not with edgy
[01:02] <krazykit> VrilutZa: fdisk
[01:02] <VrilutZa> exemple pls
[01:02] <Badkitty> Although I haven't finished downloading the stable bild yet
[01:03] <xyzn00b> dabaR: so would a cron as "30 06 * * *
[01:03] <xyzn00b>  cplay -r /home/xyznub/Desktop/alarm.mp3" work?
[01:03] <krazykit> Badkitty: there is no su.  use sudo
[01:03] <teledyn> MrUbuntu: that's a stupid suggesting considering you have no clue what chipset it is
[01:03] <dabaR> xyzn00b: never used cron
[01:03] <Bacon5o> VrilutZa, use a windows boot CD, use fdisk and do a /fixmbr then remove the linux partition
[01:03] <Badkitty> what?
[01:03] <mareks> i have a dual boot windows + ubuntu 6.06 desktop
[01:03] <music_man_nz> So there is nothing I can do to make gEdit edit existing files on a webserver. Ok
[01:03] <xyzn00b> dabaR: ok
[01:03] <Bacon5o> krazy: I asked the question
[01:03] <xyzn00b> Anyone, would a cron as "30 06 * * *
[01:03] <xyzn00b> xyzn00b  cplay -r /home/xyznub/Desktop/alarm.mp3" work?
[01:03] <mareks> and windows crashed (surprise) and i have grub error 17 when trying to boot now
[01:03] <mareks> any ideas anyone?
[01:03] <Bacon5o> mareks: yes
[01:03] <alecjw> h3lt3r_sk3lt3r: are you usinjg dapper or edgy
[01:03] <Vladaz> alecjw, can you look at the private window?
[01:03] <Vladaz> chat
[01:03] <VrilutZa> thanks Bacon5o
[01:03] <VrilutZa> :D
[01:03] <MrUbuntu> teledyn: How about researching it... ?
[01:04] <krazykit> Bacon5o: there is no root user.  do sudo -s instead of su, and go from there.
[01:04] <Bacon5o> Mareks: GRUB needs a linux kernel to detect
[01:04] <h3lt3r_sk3lt3r> alecjw dapper 6.06
[01:04] <alecjw> Vladaz: i have, i can't help you, very sorry :(
[01:04] <mareks> Bacon5o: so the ubuntu installation is screwed up?
[01:04] <jrib> music_man_nz: I believe vim can now do this, if you are familiar with the editor
[01:04] <Bacon5o> Mareks: use the Windows boot CD and do fdisk-> /fixmbr
[01:04] <Vladaz> the thing is, the patch doesn't patch:/
[01:04] <alecjw> h3lt3r_sk3lt3r: have you tried using a different screensaver
[01:04] <Badkitty> Ok, Ok it is a linksys wireless pci card: that uses that RaLINK 2500 chipset
[01:04] <Bacon5o> Mareks: what do you want to acheive?
[01:04] <Vladaz> first one is ok, but the second one no
[01:04] <music_man_nz> ok. Well thanks for your help :D
[01:04] <MrUbuntu> Look out it's teledyn the Telly Tubby......'Thats stupid', 'Thats stupid'
[01:04] <mareks> Bacon5o: i just need to make it bootable again
[01:05] <Bacon5o> Windows?
[01:05] <mareks> Bacon5o: both prefereably
[01:05] <h3lt3r_sk3lt3r> alecjw why would I use a different screensaver?
[01:05] <VrilutZa> I'm don't have Windows boot CD , windows sucks linux rullz:D
[01:05] <psycose> Using Edgy on i686 xorg can't load because of a bug with matrox card do you know a good workaround ? activating the framebuffer don't work for me ... thanks
[01:05] <Badkitty> It worked using ndiswrapper in dapperm but when I installed edgy it will not work, the light turns on, but nothing works
[01:05] <mareks> Bacon5o: although, the windows installation is a little more critical
[01:05] <Yourname``> Hello. Seriously, is it that hard to use WPA2, a USB Wifi adapter and a ndiswrapper/wpa_supplicant to work on Edgy?
[01:05] <Bacon5o> I'd reinstall ubuntu all together, you might have the GRUB bootloader corruptive
[01:05] <alecjw> h3lt3r_sk3lt3r: just try it - it might work for some bizzare unknown reason :D
[01:05] <krazykit> VrilutZa: then use any liveCD you want and just blow away the partition
[01:05] <teledyn> MrUbuntu: sorry.  i should have said "you're stupid"  not "that's stupid"
[01:05] <Xzyx987X> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[01:05] <Xzyx987X> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[01:05] <Xzyx987X> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[01:05] <alecjw> h3lt3r_sk3lt3r: i've heard of it working before
[01:05] <Xzyx987X> didn't work...
[01:05] <krazykit> Yourname``: nope, as long as youre wireless stuff supports it
[01:05] <VrilutZa> k
[01:06] <h3lt3r_sk3lt3r> alecjw that will transfer all the dvd content to a hard drive?
[01:06] <dabaR> lol @teledyn's correction
[01:06] <Yourname``> krazykit: All I wanna do is make my WiFi adapter (Linksys WUSB54G v4) to connect to my WPA2 router.
[01:06] <darkaura> does anyone know how I would go about changing the background for my login screen?
[01:06] <MrUbuntu> tickles teledyns....TV tummy, man if u wern't a telly tubby
[01:06] <Yourname``> krazykit: My Adapter AND my router, both support WPA2.
[01:06] <Heritz> Thanks guys for the Sevea's stuff. Now I have my w32codecs working without automatix. Thanks a lot!
[01:06] <Bacon5o> Yourname: I'm trying to figure that out TOO!
[01:06] <Badkitty> Ihttp://www.nabble.com/RaLink-rt2500-wireless-cards----edgy-regression--t2401872.html    that article says basically other people are having problems with my same card in edgy also\
[01:06] <krazykit> MrUbuntu, teledyn take it to PM.  don't do it here.
[01:06] <alecjw> h3lt3r_sk3lt3r: sorry, i was talking to the wrong person lol
[01:07] <Bacon5o> Yourname: It seems there are no drivers available for linux with the WKYSB56GS
[01:07] <bcnewman> Bacon5o: I believe you need to explicitly set the root password before you can su ..
[01:07] <h3lt3r_sk3lt3r> alecjw lol it's cool
[01:07] <teledyn> Badkitty: i've never had that chipset.  maybe someone here knows about ralink cards.  i think there's a special kernel module for it
[01:07] <Yourname``> Bacon5o: Seems like it's impossible. You'd think Ubuntu is configured for this, but uoi're wrong.
[01:07] <h3lt3r_sk3lt3r> I've got a question, when installing ubuntu 6.06 dapper from a dvd, how can I transfer all of the content of the dvd to the hard drive so when I'm adding new components it won't be asking me to insert the ubuntu dvd into the dvd drive?
[01:07] <Badkitty> Yah, I tried it, but it won't load for some reason
[01:07] <krazykit> Yourname``: if you know what /chipset/ it is, and if there are no native drivers, you could use ndiswrapper
[01:07] <teledyn> krazykit: no when people give bad dumbass advice i tell them
[01:07] <jrib> totall_6_7: haha I like that
[01:07] <Bacon5o> Yourname: I agree 100%, I cannot ubuntu doesn';t support USB Wireless access points
[01:07] <darkaura> holycow you helped me in that past can you tell me how I would change the background for my login screen
[01:07] <alecjw> but h3lt3r_sk3lt3r: try this, copy the dvd contents to a folder in your hard drive
[01:07] <Yourname``> krazykit: I did use ndiswrapper, now how the hell do I make it connect to my WPA network?
[01:07] <krazykit> teledyn: but fighting about it in here is inappropriate.
[01:08] <krazykit> Yourname``: i don't know.  what chipset are you using?
[01:08] <Yourname``> Hey holycow haha
[01:08] <teledyn> krazykit: i agree
[01:08] <holycow> hello Yourname``
[01:08] <Yourname``> krazykit: WUSB54G v4 uses RT2500.
[01:08] <alecjw> h3lt3r_sk3lt3r: and then you do this command: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:08] <krazykit> Yourname``: then you're stuck if you're using edgy. seems rt2500 doesn't work in edgy.
[01:08] <holycow> darkaura, there is a writeup on how to do that ... lookup gdm theming
[01:08] <h3lt3r_sk3lt3r> oh and put the path in sources?
[01:08] <Badkitty> thats my card :-(
[01:08] <krazykit> Yourname``: afaik, there's some regression
[01:08] <holycow> darkaura, or system/admin/login windows
[01:09] <holycow> -s
[01:09] <Badkitty> Your having problems with that one too yourname?
[01:09] <mikeymike-linux> how would someone uninstall xserver-xorg so that they can install xserver-xorg-air-core
[01:09] <Yourname``> krazykit: Sorry about that. But are you serious it can't work in edgy?
[01:09] <Yourname``> Badkitty: Seems like it.. :(
[01:09] <krazykit> Yourname``: uh, only accordign to some article.  i find it hard to believe that a well-supported card would be broken in a major release
[01:09] <Badkitty> look at this yourname: http://www.nabble.com/RaLink-rt2500-wireless-cards----edgy-regression--t2401872.html
[01:09] <holycow> mikeymike-linux, apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg ... just like any other piece of software
[01:09] <alecjw> you've got it, h3lt3r_sk3lt3r
[01:09] <mikeymike-linux> holycow, thanks
[01:09] <h3lt3r_sk3lt3r> alecjw thanks, I'll give it a try
[01:09] <mikeconcepts> if I'm currently running RC2, do I need to do a complete reinstall to get up to the released version of edgy?
[01:10] <mikeymike-linux> holycow, can you do it with synaptic?
[01:10] <holycow> sure
[01:10] <krazykit> mikeymike-linux: nah, just dist-upgrade
[01:10] <mikeymike-linux> hmmmmm
[01:10] <Yourname``> Badkitty: Thank you.. it seems like my card is working, it detect Wifi networks. Just not able to conenct to a WPA2 network.. :(
[01:10] <holycow> mikeymike-linux, oh heh no
[01:10] <krazykit> Badkitty, Yourname``, a temporary fix might be to grap the deb for dapper's kernel and just boot with that.
[01:10] <mikeymike-linux> holycow, oh ok
[01:10] <holycow> synaptic is an xserver application, it will die partially during uninstall
[01:10] <holycow> do it via cli
[01:10] <mikeymike-linux> omg
[01:10] <reiki> ok I'm on ANOTHER fresh install of Edgy. We'll see how far I get before I break THIS one... heheh
[01:10] <mikeymike-linux> ok
[01:10] <krazykit> holycow: apt-get remove
[01:10] <alecjw> h3lt3r_sk3lt3r: you also need to comment out the line which says that there's a dvd
[01:11] <mikeymike-linux> someone just did it
[01:11] <Badkitty> Sounds like a great idea.. I am just ultra noob to linux and ubuntu so I don't think I could handle doing that
[01:11] <mikeymike-linux> on the phone wiht me
[01:11] <Bacon5o> krazykit: I have a wireless access point that is connected to my USB. Edgy isn't seeing this, this I am unable to connect to the internet using my WAP. Any ideas?
[01:11] <xyzn00b> would a cron as "30 06 * * *
[01:11] <xyzn00b> xyzn00b  cplay -r /home/xyznub/Desktop/alarm.mp3" work?
[01:11] <Yourname``> krazykit: Ok, fine. I'll leave that one away.. how about making a PRISM chipset to work with WPA2?
[01:11] <mikeconcepts> if I'm currently running RC2, do I need to do a complete reinstall to get up to the released version of edgy?
[01:11] <h3lt3r_sk3lt3r> alecjw thank you
[01:11] <ianmacgregor> xyzn00b: That would be 6:30 am everyday
[01:11] <krazykit> Yourname``: should be trivial.  just set up wpa_supplicant, afaik
[01:11] <Powertrip> Hey everyone
[01:11] <krazykit> Bacon5o: nah, dunno.  usb-networking seems silly to me
[01:11] <Yourname``> krazykit: wpa_supp is already installed. Is that what you mean?
[01:11] <xyzn00b> ianmacgregor: I know, so it works?
[01:11] <krazykit> Yourname``: yup.
[01:12] <Yourname``> krazykit: I don't need to do anything special with it then?
[01:12] <krazykit> Yourname``: but i don't know wpa at all. there are a zillion guides for it im' sure
[01:12] <ianmacgregor> xyzn00b: is cplay an mp3 player? If so, is it gui or cli?
[01:12] <alecjw> bcnewman: sorry i forgot about you for a while - try using a different screensaver
[01:12] <twb> DRI isn't enabled by default after upgrading to edgy.  Suggestions?
[01:12] <Yourname``> krazykit: There are, none work.
[01:12] <DarkMageZ> mikeconcepts, nope, just update your system normally
[01:12] <Bacon5o> krazykit: I don't care if its silly, its just a regular Wireless-G accesspoint that uses USB to connect to my PC rather than ethernet, if this doesn't work, I'm tossing ubuntu out the window
[01:12] <xyzn00b> ianmacgregor: I think it runs in the terminal, hang on ill ask
[01:12] <Bzuber> A LONGCAT IS FINE TOO
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[01:12] <Bzuber>          \     @   |
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[01:12] <xyzn00b> dabaR: is cplay a gui or does it run in the terminal?
[01:13] <holycow> Bacon5o, see you later
[01:13] <krazykit> Bzuber: go back to 4chan.  don't spam here
[01:13] <navaburo> do what is an eft?
[01:13] <sontek> How do I add more workspaces? I want to have top and bottoms for my cube with beryl :P
[01:13] <holycow> Bacon5o, be sure to get your money back on the way out :)
[01:13] <holycow> hehe
[01:13] <Bzuber>            /\___/\
[01:13] <Bzuber>           /       \
[01:13] <Bzuber>          |  #    # |
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[01:13] <Bzuber>           /       \______
[01:13] <superm1> if a user isn't showing up in the list of users for automatic login in gdmsetup, do they need to be placed in a particular group?
[01:13] <krazykit> Bacon5o: well, i don't know this hardware, having never used it.  lsusb should give you more info on the hardware
[01:13] <holycow> jus buggin ya
[01:13] <mikeconcepts> DarkMageZ, like dist-upgrade or what?
[01:13] <maxxism> anyone running ubuntu on a ppc mac here?
[01:13] <blazemonger> hello
[01:13] <krazykit> !ops
[01:13] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[01:14] <Bacon5o> krazykit: You're talking to a guy who really has no clue about linux
[01:14] <blazemonger> when i try to doublesize xmms it doesn't work properly
[01:14] <bcnewman> alecjw: no prob ... looks like your busy! yeah, I tried different screen savers as well ... I'm currently running the last RC, not the final release, perhaps upgrading?
[01:14] <blazemonger> in edgy
[01:14] <mareks> Bacon5o: ok ubuntu is reinstalling
[01:14] <ianmacgregor> Bzuber: Please don't do that
[01:14] <maxxism> XMMS is buggy on dapper.
[01:14] <DarkMageZ> mikeconcepts, like sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:14] <alexrussell> hi there. i recently installed ubuntu from the standard 6.whateevr LTS live cd distro (normal download from the ubuntu site, nothing extra or anything)
[01:14] <maxxism> it crashes all the time on my box.
[01:14] <alecjw> bcnewman: yeah - try upgrading, tha maight work
[01:14] <alexrussell> i was wondering if anyone can help with a problem with netowrkign i'm having
[01:14] <mikeconcepts> DarkMageZ, thanks
[01:14] <Badkitty> sontec: I think you have to be out of beryl in order to change the amt of workspaces, although I am not sure if it will make the top and bottom of the cue a workspace with beryl
[01:14] <alecjw> *might
[01:14] <blazemonger> maxxism: It's more buggier in edgy
[01:14] <krazykit> LjL, Amaranth, thanks
[01:14] <twb> Amaranth: thank you.
[01:14] <mareks> everyone state your favorite harddrive brand
[01:14] <maxxism> thanx for the heads up
[01:14] <Bacon5o> Mareks: thats all I can offer you as much as information, I really dont know anymore than you do past this point
[01:14] <blazemonger> i still like edgy though
[01:14] <mareks> what has been your most dependable harddrives?
[01:14] <alexrussell> i have a wireless network and a wirelessnetwork card that ubuntu very much recognises and everything is good
[01:14] <holycow> maxxism, use something else, like beep media player
[01:14] <Amaranth> Wow, xchat got slammed doing that.
[01:14] <holycow> xmms is horrible and old and broken
[01:15] <mikeymike-linux> what does this error mean??     Package xserver-xorg-air-core is not available but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing has been obsoleted or is only available from another source. E: package xserver-xorg-air-core has no installation candidate.
[01:15] <blazemonger> no fav hard drive brand..i like maxtor drives
[01:15] <AdamKili> Help plz what package do i need to fix this: configure: error: Can't find "swt.jar"
[01:15] <maxxism> is beep meida player light on resources?
[01:15] <holycow> Amaranth, did the package arrive?
[01:15] <Badkitty> alexrussel: what kind of card
[01:15] <blazemonger> holycow: what's a good alternative to xmms?
[01:15] <bcnewman> alecjw: will try .. many thanks
[01:15] <ianmacgregor> holycow: xmms works great on all 11 of my 6.06.1 boxes.
[01:15] <reiki> restart required...back in a few
[01:15] <E[m] ess> if i have 2 computers ona  network that need updating and one downloaded all the edgy files, can the other read them from it or does it also need to download 800mb?
[01:15] <jrib> maxxism: yes, I'd say so
[01:15] <alexrussell> badkitty: it's a kinda no name thing but ubuntu correctly identifies as texas instruments chipset business
[01:15] <Amaranth> holycow: Yeah but it's still sitting right next to me. Haven't made it to a bank. :)
[01:15] <holycow> blazemonger, beep media player or virtually anything else
[01:16] <holycow> Amaranth, no worries as long as it s there :)
[01:16] <maxxism> XMMS only crashes when I double click .pls files.  if I manually play them it works fine.
[01:16] <Likwidoxigen> i've got what sounds like a dumb question
[01:16] <Badkitty> hmm you don't know the branding though?
[01:16] <Likwidoxigen> why the f* can't i get to blogger.com
[01:16] <dabaR> AdamKili: what gives you that error?
[01:16] <Likwidoxigen> same connection different computer can get to it
[01:16] <maxxism> k I will check out beep
[01:16] <alexrussell> badkitty: i just kinda got it from a local pc shop i think, and i no longer have the box. it's a normal wirless 802.11b&g
[01:16] <bimberi> E[m] ess: how are you upgrading?
[01:16] <holycow> ianmacgregor, xmms really isn't supported any more, its an old piece of software that the developers actually forked
[01:16] <holycow> twice
[01:16] <Likwidoxigen> oh $h1+
[01:16] <Likwidoxigen> nevermind
[01:16] <mikeymike-linux> what does this error mean??     Package xserver-xorg-air-core is not available but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing has been obsoleted or is only available from another source. E: package xserver-xorg-air-core has no installation candidate.
[01:16] <AdamKili> ./configure i'm configuring iRiverter, a tool to convert videos for my portable device
[01:17] <Likwidoxigen> it's jstu firefux
[01:17] <dabaR> AdamKili: try libswt3.1-gtk-java] 
[01:17] <blazemonger> Ubuntu is going to save the world
[01:17] <E[m] ess> bimberi:  i just used apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[01:17] <dabaR> mikeymike-linux: it means what it says, no package exists with that name
[01:17] <Likwidoxigen> anyone having trouble getting firefox 2 to go to blogger.com in edgy?
[01:17] <Badkitty> !wireless
[01:17] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:17] <blazemonger> i'm thinking about starting a free and universal religion called the Church Of Ubuntu
[01:17] <alexrussell> badkitty: thanks :)
[01:17] <holycow> blazemonger, only if the world wanted to be saved, unfortunately it doesn't
[01:17] <JoseStefan> crimsun, may I bother you with a msg regarding a bug?
[01:18] <bimberi> E[m] ess: transfer the .deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives to the same place on the other machine.  The upgrade process should find them
[01:18] <crimsun> JoseStefan: I prefer in-channel
[01:18] <E[m] ess> thanks :)
[01:18] <blazemonger> holycow: it's like everywhere on the planet humans don't use their creativity..everyone including leaders walk in this easy path that leads to nowhere
[01:18] <alexrussell> basically it doesn't detect any networks (i dunno if it's supposed to?) but if i enter the ssid of my netowrk in it doesn't connect. the network analyser thingy says i have signal strength (how does it even work that out if it isn't connected to anything?)
[01:18] <blazemonger> i worry about the future of everyone including world leaders
[01:18] <AdamKili> dabaR: didn't work
[01:18] <JoseStefan> crimsun, does bug 59138 need any extra info? i would like to help speed up diagnosing
[01:19] <Bacon5o> To ubuntu world: Good bye! Good knowing ubuntu for, meh, 2 days =/
[01:19] <holycow> blazemonger, hey look at the windows users we get in this channel, even the simplest task like googling before coming to an opinion is beyond us
[01:19] <Badkitty> no prob
[01:19] <blazemonger> i like the concept of Ubuntu and Linux
[01:19] <maxxism> yeah beep looks cool.
[01:19] <alexrussell> i dunno if the problem is with recognising spaces of non alphanum chars in the ssid. my ssid is (without quotes) "The Boys' House" (yeah, i know)
[01:19] <dabaR> AdamKili: that package has that file.
[01:19] <BlueEagle> So, this is the setup I've got. A) I run a server that supplies clients with IP addresses and DNS service. B) coolbeer runs a server on a separate location and subnet that supplies IP addresses and DNS services. C) These two servers are connected via a VPN tunnel. Now what I want is for clients that are connected to my server to be able to connect to Windows SMB clients/servers on coolbeer network (that are not the server itself). ...
[01:19] <maxxism> I even like the default skin
[01:19] <DigitalNinja> How do I switch from the kernel agpgart module to the nvidia module?
[01:19] <Likwidoxigen> anyone having trouble with firefox 2 getting to blogger in edgy?
[01:19] <noelferreira> hi
[01:19] <holycow> Bacon5o, see ya
[01:19] <BlueEagle> ... Which approach do you think that we should take to make this work?
[01:19] <noelferreira> anyone can help me with rt61 driver?
[01:19] <maxxism> i guess i can ditch xmms now
[01:19] <Badkitty> lol noelferreira Im having problems with it too
[01:20] <Badkitty> its rt61/rt2500 ... linksys card? wmp54g?
[01:20] <alexrussell> still, i'll take a look at that link and i'll come back if i still have problems
[01:20] <noelferreira> i have it working a few hours ago
[01:20] <mikeymike-linux> how do i know which of my sources in my sources.list is the one that provides a certain package.... for instance if i wanted to see which source is xmms coming from in synaptic how would i figure that out?
[01:20] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell likwidoxigen about anyone
[01:20] <AdamKili> dabaR: /usr/bin/jar/swt.jar? that file? cause that's what it's looking for
[01:20] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell noelferreira about anyone
[01:20] <blazemonger> holycow: If the whole human race doesn't cooperate i see disaster..we all as humans need to work with each other and use our creativity and think outside the box to solve the planet's future problems
[01:20] <noelferreira> but after restarting i don't know what happened it stops working
[01:20] <holycow> BlueEagle, that is a bit advanced for this channel bro ... we just try to get people to have a nice ubuntu install on the desktop and resolve idiosyncracies
[01:20] <bimberi> mikeymike-linux: apt-cache policy xmms
[01:21] <mikeymike-linux> thank you
[01:21] <DigitalNinja> Anyone using an nvidia 7600 or something along those lines.
[01:21] <alexrussell> also another thing i've noticed as a bug/feature with ubuntu: if you want to use alt + a key as a shortcut in the prefs -> keyb shorcuts dialogue ypou just click the action then go alt+key
[01:21] <bimberi> np
[01:21] <Powertrip> Oh no... My Ubnutu is saying "Failed to start the X Server ( your GUI). It is likely that it is not setup correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?
[01:21] <blazemonger> i actually consider myself a planetary citizen
[01:21] <Likwidoxigen> BlueEagle: you going to be useful or not?
[01:21] <alexrussell> if you want to use "wuper~" (win) plue somethgin it doesn't work. it just says "super" and goes out of shortcut mode
[01:21] <BlueEagle> holycow: In that case, where do you suggest that I seek further assistance?
[01:21] <maxxism> is there a PPC channel for ubuntu????
[01:21] <holycow> blazemonger, well i don't really subscribe to that, we have only recently evolved from monkeys and we haven't anihilated our selves yet.  we will be fine but it will take longer to extricate our selves from the evolutionary muck
[01:21] <dabaR> AdamKili: link the swt.jar from the libswt3.1-gtk-java to that place, find where libswt3.1-gtk-java has the file by running dpkg -L libswt3.1-gtk-java
[01:21] <alexrussell> you CAN hold down the win key and then click the action again and then press your char key and it works. dunno if that is intended or not?
[01:21] <JoseStefan> maxxism, not that i am aware of
[01:22] <Badkitty> Powetrip, it may be due to a misconfiguration like your screen resolution is wrong or its loading the wrong video drivers
[01:22] <maxxism> anyone here using PPC ubuntu?
[01:22] <BlueEagle> likwidoxigen: Yes, but it is entirely improbable that "anyone" will be able to help you unless you supply more information about how firefox 2 fails to blogger in edgy.
[01:22] <Badkitty> Powertrip: Check the xorg.conf
[01:22] <morfic> BlueEagle: #linuxhelp might be needing a challenge
[01:22] <blazemonger> holycow: I believe in both evolution and creation...
[01:22] <Powertrip> yeah I just tried installing some new video card drivers and then I got the error
[01:22] <BlueEagle> morfic: I will make an attempt there, thank you.
[01:22] <Likwidoxigen> BlueEagle: like i said it doesn't go there, it just hangs.
[01:22] <holycow> BlueEagle, good question.  if i were doing it on my own i would either google up the knowledge or pay for coursework.  if its for work i would hire a consultant to either train me or set i tup for me
[01:22] <holycow> blazemonger, i don
[01:22] <holycow> 't
[01:23] <Badkitty> do you know how to check that file powertrip?
[01:23] <roxy> name?
[01:23] <blazemonger> holycow: i respect that freedom
[01:23] <AdamKili> it says it's at /usr/lib/java/swt.jar. so do i change the configure script or what?
[01:23] <Powertrip> not really but I am on a second PC so someone could walk me through it
[01:23] <maxxism> PPC Dapper was very broken.  anyone tried Edgy on a mac yet??
[01:23] <AdamKili> dabaR
[01:23] <dabaR> AdamKili: link, man ln
[01:23] <pengo> hie
[01:23] <Likwidoxigen> BlueEagle: i'm looking for atleast one person to say either yes i can get there or no i can't that's really it
[01:23] <blazemonger> holycow: do you believe in life on other planets?
[01:23] <morfic> maxxism: friend runs it on a mac mini
[01:24] <pengo> everybody
[01:24] <Badkitty> If I remember correctly it is in the /X11/etc folder
[01:24] <Powertrip> I ran a command from my terminal that I was told to run and it downloaded something new and wanted a reboot
[01:24] <krazykit> holycow, blazemonger, take this to #ubuntu-offtopic if you must discuss it
[01:24] <AdamKili> dabaR: how exactly? i'm still learning
[01:24] <morfic> maxxism: no issues that i don't see here on x86 or amd64
[01:24] <blazemonger> i think it would be neat to have a galactic internet...we could have like a huge federation
[01:24] <holycow> blazemonger, we are evolving from species whos behaviour is primarily governed by isntinct to one that is governed by reason.  we are inbetween those two stages.  currently instinct is a large governor of our behaviour
[01:24] <blazemonger> or a tiny one..which resolves differences in peaceful ways
[01:24] <dabaR> AdamKili: type man ln in a terminal to get a source of learning
[01:24] <Powertrip> i can work my way to the X11/etc if you'ld like badkitty
[01:24] <krazykit> AdamKili: update-alternatives maybe?
[01:24] <mycpuisnuralnet> Hello all, I just installed ubuntu and I'm trying to see if my USB bluetooth adapter (BTD603-132) will work.  I inserted it and found it through the Device Manager but I do not know how to actually use it via application... Can anyone point me in a good direction?
[01:24] <maxxism> morfic naw I never experienced any of these issues on x86
[01:24] <holycow> but indeed this is offtopic
[01:24] <Badkitty> yah
[01:25] <krazykit> Powertrip: try at a console doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:25] <Yourname``> krazykit: Prisma02 with ndiswrapper seems to keep saying "invalid driver" why?
[01:25] <noelferreira> i have rt61 driver and i got this error:No DHCPOFFERS received.
[01:25] <noelferreira> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[01:25] <krazykit> Yourname``: i don't know.
[01:25] <morfic> maxxism: not sure what you experienced, i mean edgy runs smooth on the mac mini
[01:25] <noelferreira> what is the problem
[01:25] <noelferreira> ?
[01:25] <blazemonger> holycow: It's like there are two sides of humans.those who want to be governed and those who just want to be left alone...........
[01:25] <Yourname``> :(
[01:25] <Badkitty> or maybe it was /etc/X11...
[01:25] <BlueEagle> likwidoxigen: So you've got a browser that is unable to read a page, correct? Are you able to read that page with another browser? Have you tried copying the source code for the page to your local machine and opening it with the client that is failing? Is that at all fesable with the page in question or is it impractical due to server-side code? Have you checked any debug output that firefox might give? Did you launch firefox from a ...
[01:25] <maxxism> ok I will download Edgy and try it out.
[01:25] <BlueEagle> ... terminal so that perhaps the cause of the hang might be established?
[01:25] <pengo> hie is there anybody can help me??
[01:25] <blazemonger> where i live dr. assisted suicide is illegal
[01:25] <maxxism> pengo whats up?
[01:25] <dabaR> !helpme
[01:25] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:25] <holycow> BlueEagle, i have found irc and the internet to be good references for trouble shooting, but gaining indepth knowledge on topics that would help you setup a vpn setup like yours requires a bit of work and very good sources of information
[01:25] <pengo> ok
[01:26] <Sensae> Hello
[01:26] <pengo> firstly
[01:26] <maxxism> heya
[01:26] <alexrussell> by the way, does anyone know whether ubuntu definitely allows you to have an unencrypted wireless network? it always asks for a key. i assume if i leave it blank it means "unencrypted"? this may help me out a bit? does ubuntu require that a network is encrypted?
[01:26] <pengo> good nights
[01:26] <holycow> BlueEagle, unfortunately that is mostly beyond irc tho ... google is your best bet beyond getting some professional help
[01:26] <noelferreira> people need help
[01:26] <Powertrip> from recovery mode?
[01:26] <noelferreira> No DHCPOFFERS received.
[01:26] <noelferreira> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[01:26] <krazykit> alexrussell: no, it doesn't need an encrypted network
[01:26] <noelferreira> rt61 driver
[01:26] <alexrussell> okay, thanks
[01:26] <maxxism> alexrussell I would like to know this too.
[01:26] <killer> I installed ciscoVPNclient and I successfully connected to host but where I could mount the drive? I'm connected but I can't see the actual drive.
[01:26] <Rothguard> why does simply having system monitor open in full screen mode use %25 cpu on a coreduo 1.66
[01:26] <Badkitty> no you just want to go to the command line after it crashes
[01:26] <BlueEagle> holycow: Well, the problem does not really reside with the VPN client/server setup as we have got that working. The problem does appear to make the two subnets appear as one in the minds of the SMB clients/servers.
[01:26] <pengo> i have a problem with windows net
[01:27] <Badkitty> It should still let you log in
[01:27] <morfic> noelferreira: your network is not set up right since you can not get an IP from the server via dhcp
[01:27] <alexrussell> i'm wholly stumped. i type in my ssid, leave the enc key blank and enter and all the static ip business (not dhcp) and it can't connect.
[01:27] <pengo> and
[01:27] <pengo> i am from turkey
[01:27] <Sensae> Last night I installed Ubuntu 6.10, and I've noticed by default it refuses SSH connections. Where would I set it to allow?
[01:27] <Badkitty> Has anyone seen, downloaded, or tested the new paint.net
[01:27] <maxxism> same problem here alexrussell
[01:27] <Yourname``> How can I install ndisgtk? Because it says the CD doesn't have it!!!!
[01:27] <morfic> noelferreira: is that wireless? then you are likely not associated
[01:27] <holycow> Sensae, sudo apt-get install ssh
[01:27] <pengo> i use drake ubuntu
[01:27] <pengo> and
[01:27] <bimberi> Sensae: install ssh (which will bring in openssh-server)
[01:27] <pengo> i install
[01:27] <BlueEagle> sensae: First off, have you made sure that the ssh server is indeed installed?
[01:27] <noelferreira> i'm morfic
[01:28] <pengo> samba
[01:28] <pengo> and
[01:28] <bimberi> !enter | pengo
[01:28] <ubotu> pengo: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:28] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell pengo about enter
[01:28] <Powertrip> ok Kitty I got a X window system graphical user interface (Blue Grey and Red screen)) with a big list of drivers (sis, sisusb, tga etc)
[01:28] <Sensae> Okay, brb. The system's out in a different room
[01:28] <noelferreira> i scan my essid morfic
[01:28] <noelferreira> but i can't get ip
[01:28] <alexrussell> maxxism: hmm... i was thinking maybe it's my network's SSID, it has an apostrophe, which may cunfuse ubuntu. what's your SSID? maybe it's the channel. there's no way that i can see to set my wireless card's reception channel, my network is on channel 1 though
[01:28] <BlueEagle> sensae: Can't you just ssh into it? hehe ;)
[01:28] <Powertrip> After typing the sudo
[01:28] <krazykit> Powertrip: the simplest for now is VESA for drivers.  it's universal
[01:28] <Powertrip> ok
[01:28] <AdamKili> dabaR: how?
[01:28] <Powertrip> Identifier?
[01:28] <morfic> noelferreira: using ndiswrapper or free driver?
[01:29] <Powertrip> Generic Video Card ok?
[01:29] <Badkitty> wait, so you are in xorg.conf?
[01:29] <krazykit> Powertrip: yeah.
[01:29] <blazemonger> like for example..should there be a law preventing me from wanting to die on a certain date?
[01:29] <mycpuisnuralnet> Hello all, I just installed ubuntu and I'm trying to see if my USB bluetooth adapter (BTD603-132) will work. I inserted it and found it through the Device Manager but I do not know how to actually use it via application... Can anyone point me in a good direction?
[01:29] <Powertrip> yeah
[01:29] <Xzyx987X> ok, I'm back...
[01:29] <Xzyx987X> switching sata controllers didn't work
[01:29] <krazykit> Badkitty: there's a question->conf for xorg.conf :-D
[01:29] <AdamKili> krazykit: how do i use update-alternatives?
[01:29] <Jessic2> okay, I could use a hand. :)
[01:29] <krazykit> AdamKili: uh... don't recall.  the man page should tell you though
[01:30] <Xzyx987X> btw, I tried booting the drive from the live cd's boot first hard drive option and it gave me a generic can't load os error
[01:30] <noelferreira> free driver morfic
[01:30] <noelferreira> edgy out of the box have it now
[01:30] <[Jessica] > where's the drive manager in Edgy?
[01:30] <cryptonic> anyone have any problems with vlc on edgy?
[01:30] <Powertrip> video card's bus identifier? Default ok?
[01:30] <noelferreira> i scan my essid but i can't get ip
[01:30] <Xzyx987X> trying to manually grub the drive still gives me the following error:
[01:30] <Badkitty> Yah
[01:30] <dabaR> AdamKili: sudo mkdir /usr/bin/jar;sudo ln /usr/lib/java/swt.jar /usr/bin/jar/swt.jar
[01:30] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: did you just switch the drive or did you re-install also?
[01:30] <Xzyx987X> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[01:30] <Xzyx987X> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[01:30] <Xzyx987X> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[01:30] <Powertrip> PCI:1:0:0 (it's a PCIx Nvidia 7300 (Only one not an SLI board)
[01:30] <Xzyx987X> didn't reinstall yet
[01:30] <Badkitty> hang on
[01:30] <Sensae> Okay, thanks. It works now.
[01:30] <Xzyx987X> should I?
[01:30] <Likwidoxigen> BlueEagle: yes i can get to it in opera. It's blogger, my girlfriend can get to it from her computer which is right next to mine. Of course i can read it locally if i copy the source it's not like i was writing the page and broke something.
[01:30] <morfic> noelferreira: sorry, no  idea why it won't give you an IP if you fully associate
[01:31] <sidewalk> yeah
[01:31] <sidewalk> whos responsible for nvtv?
[01:31] <Xzyx987X> ok, I'll try it one more time...
[01:31] <sidewalk> it coredumps when i use it
[01:31] <sidewalk> from apt-get
[01:31] <krazykit> Powertrip: yeah, that's fine.
[01:31] <Powertrip> ok, moving on
[01:31] <noelferreira> what you mean fully associate morfic?
[01:31] <Likwidoxigen> Is anyone running edgy willing to do a quick favor and go to www.blogger.com in firefox 2 and tell me if the page loads or hangs?
[01:31] <Rug> I like to use ps -A |md5sum to generate passwords for my boxes, is there someway I can limit/hack the output to say 10 characters?
[01:31] <noelferreira> how can i have pretty sure about that?
[01:31] <Jessica`> Anyone: I'm wondering if there's an easy way to add devices to the /etc/fstab. I see UUID strings here, and that's the first time I've seen them in my fstab.
[01:31] <killer> how to map network drive in Edgy?
[01:31] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: you need 1)the drive installed on a bootable controller (check your bios setup/mobo manual)  2) grub installed to that drive  3) bootloader config that is correct for that device
[01:31] <Xzyx987X> btw, the list of cities on the install list is a bit sparce...
[01:32] <Xzyx987X> the closest one to me was in north dakota :P
[01:32] <krazykit> Rug: https://www.grc.com/passwords
[01:32] <Badkitty> hey powertrip: Instead of editing the text file try this: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:32] <Rug> krazykit: no, that doesn't answer the question
[01:32] <Sensae> Now, could someone either help me configure VNC to work properly, or point me to some good docs for it? I've read a few and have been trying to get it working all morning.
[01:32] <dabaR> Likwidoxigen: works fine here
[01:32] <Badkitty> And go through and set it up correctly
[01:33] <Likwidoxigen> dabaR:  thanks that's all i needed
[01:33] <krazykit> Rug: no, but sed could cut it down then
[01:33] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: and 4) the controller must be supported by your kernel.  if the ubuntu installer recognized it then it probably is
[01:34] <gevaudan> Hello all...I was trying to install compiz-xgl and well things didn't quite work out for me...i'm ok with that but now after uninstalling all of compiz and xgl and removing the .Xsession file ubuntu stalls at Starting WIndow Manager...what file or where would I look to get me back into gnome?
[01:34] <Badkitty> did that work powertrip?
[01:34] <AkumAPRIME> hey, I am trying to backup before I start  messing with things. I DLed rsync, but I can't find it to use it. So if anyone can tell me how to access it, that would be great. Alernatively, the system=> admin=> simple backup config isnot working for me. I tell it to backup to a specified dir, but when I save, Backup Now!, nothing seems to happen, and certainly no files are added to my dir... any ideas?
[01:34] <Xzyx987X> yea, I would assume so
[01:34] <Powertrip> I'm going thrugh a lot of stuff
[01:34] <Xzyx987X> it is able to write to it and read it's partitions just fine
[01:34] <Powertrip> I didnt browse to the x11 I ran that SUDO command xconf or whatever
[01:34] <Powertrip> going through some questions about my keboard layout etc
[01:35] <Powertrip> very confused lol
[01:35] <Badkitty> ok cool, yah hopefully this should help.. Make sureyou pick the right video card driver, and screen resolutions when it asks
[01:35] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: at a very minimum you should be seeing the intial grub prompt with the option to press esc for menu, and it should start to boot
[01:35] <alexrussell> maxxism: hmm... i was thinking maybe it's my network's SSID, it has an apostrophe, which may cunfuse ubuntu. what's your SSID? maybe it's the channel. there's no way that i can see to set my wireless card's reception channel, my network is on channel 1 though
[01:35] <Xzyx987X> but I don't
[01:36] <Xzyx987X> which is why I'm attempting a reinstall...
[01:36] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: if that's not happening then grub isn't installed on the device
[01:36] <Xzyx987X> well, when I tried to install it:
[01:36] <Sensae> I did an apt-get install vnc4server, and to the best of the instructions I saw configured it. Now I can connect with TightVNC on my Windows system, but it says authorization failed
[01:36] <Xzyx987X> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[01:36] <Xzyx987X> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[01:36] <Xzyx987X> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[01:36] <Powertrip> ok badkitty thanks so much doing mouse stuff now
[01:36] <Badkitty> I know its frustrating powertrip I've dealt with that many times.. and I'm no pro at X by ANY means, but reconfiguring has helped me fix X several times
[01:36] <krazykit> alexrussell: ah, i think you use _ for funny characters.  or put the thing in "" or \escape it out
[01:36] <Sensae> no matter what password I enter, and I did do a sudo vncpasswd
[01:36] <jdrake> Is there a way to configure regional settings like date display/input in gnome and friends (specifically evolution). I can't even set a birthdate to 1951 in a contact.
[01:36] <krazykit> alexrussell: one of those.
[01:36] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: from the install cd run grub-install manually
[01:36] <Powertrip> went with vesa earlier
[01:36] <Badkitty> What card do you have?
[01:36] <Xzyx987X> teleyn:
[01:37] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: do you have a seperate /boot partition?
[01:37] <Xzyx987X> teledyn: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[01:37] <gevaudan> Sensae: are you connecting on 5901 or 5900...5900 is reserved for vino which you might have enabled accidently
[01:37] <Yourname``> How can I install ndisgtk? Because it says the CD doesn't have it!!!!
[01:37] <alexrussell> krazykit: i just read the wifidics and it says "If your device supports scanning, your access points essid should display in the drop down list. Most newer cards and drivers will support scanning." well on windows i can "view wireless netowrks in range" thingy therefore i assume i support scanning? on ubuntu no networks appear. and there are about 5 or 6 in range... any ideas?
[01:37] <krazykit> Yourname``: download it.
[01:37] <Xzyx987X> I set up the partions as follows:
[01:37] <krazykit> alexrussell: oh, you're using graphical stuff?  i don't know then
[01:37] <Powertrip> Video modes to be used by xserver?
[01:37] <Cale> Is there an easy way to get upstart to tell me what it's doing while my machine is booting? (Somewhat like dapper's starting sequence?)
[01:37] <Xzyx987X> 1: linux-swap
[01:37] <Yourname``> krazykit: I don't even have internet.
[01:37] <Xzyx987X> 2: ext3
[01:38] <Xzyx987X> 3: ext3
[01:38] <Sensae> I did an apt-get install vnc4server, and to the best of the instructions I saw configured it. Now I can connect with TightVNC on my Windows system, but it says authorization failed, and I did do sudo vncpasswd
[01:38] <Powertrip> 1024,800, and 640 ok?
[01:38] <krazykit> Yourname``: then you can't install it.  do it from the command line
[01:38] <alexrussell> krazykit: and no, i don't know what make or anythgin my card is (sorry) it is identified as texas instruments chipset (maybe manufacturer?) and it seems to WANt to work... but it just doesn't
[01:38] <gevaudan> Cale: if you look into System -> Services there is an option you can log to file
[01:38] <Yourname``> krazykit: Ofcourse I'm trying to do that.. it won't let me because it says couldn't find package?
[01:38] <Jessica`> Anyone: I'm wondering if there's an easy way to add devices to the /etc/fstab. I see UUID strings here, and that's the first time I've seen them in my fstab.
[01:38] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: that's only a listing of the filesystems on the partitions.  what mount points did you assign to them?
[01:38] <Cale> gevaudan: I'd rather see it while it was happening
[01:38] <Badkitty> You gotta play around with the Powertrip. If this setup doesn't work after you reboot, reconfigure again and try somehing else
[01:38] <alexrussell> krazykit: sorry i preempted :) well i can try doing it a non GUI way. how do i set it up with config files? maybe that'll help?
[01:39] <Xzyx987X> swap, /, and /storage respectively
[01:39] <gevaudan> Sensae: take a look at this if you haven't already http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402  ...be sure to consult page 17...it contains special instructions for edgy
[01:39] <krazykit> alexrussell: i can't support anymore.  i have homework
[01:39] <krazykit> later all.
[01:39] <Sensae> gevaudan: ty
[01:39] <Badkitty> Later thanks!!
[01:39] <alexrussell> krazykit: okay, thanks anyway. good luck with hwk :)
[01:39] <gevaudan> Sensae: i just followed teh same guide earlier tonight and got resumable sessions and the main gnome session working so i can verify it works
[01:39] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: mount the / part from the installer cd or other rescue cd
[01:39] <Powertrip> ok it's done it's think should I reboot?
[01:39] <Badkitty> Alexrussel: I can't use mywireless either. So annoying I want to step on it
[01:39] <kodat> yeah i cant use my wireless either
[01:39] <kodat> its killin me
[01:39] <Badkitty> Yes Powertrip
[01:39] <Xzyx987X> I'm on the install cd right now...
[01:40] <Powertrip> ok
[01:40] <Xzyx987X> how do I mount it?
[01:40] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: assuming you mount it under /target, you would run   grub-install --root-directory=/target --recheck /dev/sda  (or whatever device it is)
[01:40] <alexrussell> badkitty: yeah, pain in the you-know-what! and my network cable is no long enough to even test whether it general netowrking/router or whether it's my net card or what
[01:41] <teledyn> does anyone here know if sata device names changed from sdx  to something else recently?
[01:41] <Badkitty> I feel you, my router is down and back up the stairs, and my longest cable is 6 feet
[01:41] <gevaudan> telegyn: should still be sdx
[01:41] <Xzyx987X> teledyn: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ grub-install --root-directory=/target --recheck /dev/sda mkdir: cannot create directory `/target/boot': No such file or directory ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[01:41] <Powertrip> Back in Business! lol Woho!!
[01:41] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: you have to mount the partition first
[01:41] <Badkitty> It worked Powertrip?
[01:41] <Xzyx987X> I asked how to do that and you never told me :P
[01:42] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: i did.  read back
[01:42] <Jessica`> okay, there's 979 people in here
[01:42] <Jessica`> and nobody can tell me how?
[01:42] <Powertrip> sure did, still running generic drivers but not brave enough to get my 7300 working just yet don't want to mess it up again
[01:42] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: mount the / part from the installer cd or other rescue cd
[01:42] <psycose> hi using nautilus with Edgy how can i browse the entire file system and not only  /home (just upgrade from dapper to edgy) thanks ?
[01:42] <Powertrip> last thing I tried obviously didn't work
[01:42] <gevaudan> Jessica`: nobody can keep up with the sheer numbers of messages
[01:42] <Badkitty> Thats nvidia?
[01:42] <Powertrip> yeah
[01:42] <Powertrip> it's a PCIx card
[01:42] <Powertrip> fairly new
[01:42] <alexrussell> badkitty: have you managed to progress any further than me? as i said to krazykit the wifidocs you pointed my to said that if my card supports scanning (and on windows i can see all networks so i assume it does?) then the dropdown will be populated with networks. but the dropdown is empty. you?
[01:42] <gb7055> Hi all.  Is there an easy way in gnome to rename my hardrives that mount my windows partitions?  (e.g.  I have a hadrive with a name of eagle that I would like to rename to Ealge(C).   I clicked drive on my desktop and clicked on properties however I don't see anyway to rename the label or the drive.  Thanks all!
[01:43] <Xzyx987X> I don't see where
[01:43] <Badkitty> Which command did you use to install it, was it something like sudo apt-get nvidia-glx?
[01:43] <bimberi> psycose: Places -> Computer
[01:43] <gevaudan> gb7055: rename it in windows and ubuntu should detect it...if you want to change the mount name then well that's /etc/fstab
[01:43] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys i've just been trying to configure Cedega for the first time and I've hit a stumbling block, when its running the system tests it fails at 3d acceleration??? as far as I'm aware I have direct rendering enabled
[01:43] <DigitalNinja> I have a motherboard with a built in nvidia card. I added a pcie nvidia card. It looks like both cards are using the same IRQ (50). Is this ok or should they be different?
[01:43] <Badkitty> No I am t the same point as you alexrussel
[01:43] <Powertrip> that was it
[01:43] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: where what?
[01:43] <gb7055> Thanks gevaudan!
[01:43] <Jessica`> I'm wondering if there's an easy way to add devices to the /etc/fstab. I see UUID strings here, and that's the first time I've seen them in my fstab.
[01:43] <funkja> anyone know why my ctrl keys won't work. I do a ctrl-c or ctrl-v and nothing happens. ctrl-a doesn't select all ctrl-z doesn't break, all it does is output the letter.. Very weird.
[01:43] <psycose> bimberi, then when i click on "file system" i see debootstrap home and media ...
[01:44] <Xzyx987X> where you said how to mount the drive
[01:44] <Powertrip> downloaded something from within the terminal window
[01:44] <gevaudan> Jessica`: uuid are basically read write permissions
[01:44] <teledyn> Xzanron: here:  Xzyx987X: mount the / part from the installer cd or other rescue cd
[01:44] <Badkitty> Digitalninja: Wouldn't you wantto disable your onboard card in BIOS?
[01:44] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: : here:  Xzyx987X: mount the / part from the installer cd or other rescue cd
[01:44] <alexrussell> Badkitty: darn. i really wanna know whether it's my card, or ubuntu not being able to fully support my card (even though it detects it and tries to work with it) or ubuntu just beign weird. wel thanks for trying to help. i think i'll go and read more wifidocs now
[01:44] <Xzyx987X> right, and the command to do that would be?
[01:44] <teledyn> mount?
[01:44] <Jessica`> gevaudan: can I just put my mount points in the way I used to on dapper?
[01:44] <DigitalNinja> Badkitty: You can't. I have an EPoX 6100 motherboard and there isn't an option to trun it off
[01:45] <Badkitty> Im pretty sure it is the card
[01:45] <bimberi> psycose: does ctrl-H (show hidden files) do anything?
[01:45] <gevaudan> Jessica`: all depends on the file system you are mounting...what is it?
[01:45] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: try mkdir /target; mount <dev> /target
[01:45] <Powertrip> the 7300 and ubnutu don't mix
[01:45] <Badkitty> thats not true powertrip
[01:45] <Xzyx987X> k...
[01:45] <Badkitty> there are just some things that u are overlooking
[01:45] <psycose> bimberi, ok thanks nautilus hide them thanks
[01:45] <Jessica`> gevaudan: ext3
[01:45] <Powertrip> yeah your probably right
[01:45] <Badkitty> I had hella trouble with my fx5900
[01:46] <Xzyx987X> mkdir: cannot create directory `/target': File exists
[01:46] <Xzyx987X> mount: only root can do that
[01:46] <Xzyx987X> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[01:46] <Badkitty> You gotta find the right tutorial
[01:46] <Powertrip> yeah. my board is fairly new and it picked up sound and nic no probs
[01:46] <Xzyx987X> oops, forgot to sudo the second one
[01:46] <bimberi> psycose: np, that was a guess :), I'll have to check on my edgy install later
[01:46] <Badkitty> it could be a certain module that you have to add in first or something
[01:46] <Powertrip> yeah, what about that package manager anything in there?
[01:47] <maxxism> <------  Favourite Command in Terminal      "sudo -s"
[01:47] <Xzyx987X> teledyn: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount dev/sda /target mkdir: cannot create directory `/target': File exists mount: special device dev/sda does not exist
[01:47] <gevaudan> Jessica': for ext3 you should be able to omit the uuid permissions...try it and see where you get...i realize now what you are referring to...i actually have no idea what the deal is with the new uuid in edgy...i was thinking of umask
[01:47] <Badkitty> Nah, I am thinking it is probably a missing restricted module
[01:47] <Morydd> I'm trying to follow the "official" upgrade instructions, but gksu "update-manager -c" returns a "command not found"
[01:47] <Badkitty> I would see if there is a better howto for your card
[01:47] <viator> is there a way i can delete all instances of somthing from a file from the cli
[01:47] <Powertrip> yeah can I bring up that X11/etc file from the terminal and save a copy or something?
[01:48] <jrib> viator: sed
[01:48] <Powertrip> or did I reset everything to generic?
[01:48] <gb7055> Has anyone experience any problems using KRDC with Edgy?   I was using the app in Dapper and never had any problems.  I installed Edgy on Friday night and everytime I ran the application my background bitmap would bleed into the app and I could not use it to connect into work.
[01:48] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: dmesg |grep -r sata    find out what the device is named
[01:48] <psycose> bimberi, ok thanks, be carefull if you use a matrox card their is a bug in the driver ... you should force the install of xserver-xorg-video-mga from debian unstable ...
[01:48] <matthew_> Hey guys, I ABSOLUTELY can't get my TwinView working - any ideas?  I've redone xorg.conf about 20 times now...
[01:48] <maxxism> one of my boxes is just finishing up the upgrade through  gksu "update-manager -c"  I cant wait to see how borked it is afterwards
[01:48] <Badkitty> Umm Im not sure, you set it up.. It is a good Idea to make a backup of the file
[01:48] <bimberi> psycose: thanks, i'm matrox free atm :)
[01:49] <Fireal> hello all, what is the difference between sudo and gksudo?
[01:49] <mikedoty> I'm running on a Knoppix CD ... I have the aim of creating these partitions.  I can't even find my C drive though... like, I just want to view my C drive files and open a text file, but I can't find the C drive.  Is it not there or something?
[01:49] <gevaudan> fireal: gksu is to get prompted for root in gnome...sudo is for the terminal
[01:49] <psycose> Fireal, man sudo then man gksudo
[01:49] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: oops..   dmesg |grep -i sata
[01:49] <bimberi> Fireal: sudo is for text commands, gksudo for gui
[01:49] <Troy^> is it me or can i not download a iso of ubuntu on the ftps?
[01:49] <mikedoty> I set CD drive to my 1st boot priority, otherwise it would annoyingly just load windows
[01:49] <Badkitty> I want to say that gksudo gives you more time as root, but im an idiot so i might be wrong
[01:49] <viator> jrib hmm
[01:49] <maxxism> gksudo brings up a nice GTK whizbang text box for you to put your password into
[01:49] <gevaudan> Troy: you can but torrents will be faster especially so close to a release
[01:49] <viator> man page is a bit confusing
[01:49] <jrib> viator: you know regex?
[01:50] <reiki> interesting.... the generic kernel has smp support . I tried to install nvidia-glx and it insisted on installing the i386 kernel. Booting to that one I find it has no smp support. AND... the nvidia driver didn't work :)
[01:50] <Badkitty> http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/edgy/
[01:50] <Fireal> thanks!
[01:50] <bimberi> !gksudo
[01:50] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[01:50] <Badkitty> Troy try that
[01:50] <viator> what would the syntax be to remove say all instances of www.website.com from an html file perse
[01:50] <gevaudan> bimberi: it's gksu not gksudo
[01:50] <Fireal> ok cool
[01:50] <maxxism> yeah i miss typed.  sorry
[01:50] <bimberi> gevaudan: er, it's both actually
[01:50] <noelferreira> rt61 driver help pelease
[01:50] <noelferreira> can't get ip
[01:50] <noelferreira> i found my essis but i can't get ip
[01:51] <Matthew_W> !tell me about TV-Out
[01:51] <jrib> viator: sed -i -e 's/www\.website\.com//g'
[01:51] <Badkitty> atleast you can get your essid!
[01:51] <_thumper_> where are the smp kernels
[01:51] <jrib> viator: followed by the file
[01:51] <_thumper_> ?
[01:51] <codecaine> I reinstall mplayer now it says can't find mp3lib
[01:51] <codecaine> whys that?
[01:51] <McJerry> i haven't dloaded any recent dapper iso, is there a way to install without booting into livecd?
[01:51] <bimberi> gevaudan: gksudo is a symlink to gksu
[01:51] <Badkitty> are you using wpa?
[01:51] <gevaudan> bimberi: ahh i see
[01:51] <jrib> viator: http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html http://doc.novsu.ac.ru/oreilly/unix/sedawk/index.htm are two good links
[01:51] <teledyn> _thumper_: generic does support smp
[01:51] <Xzyx987X> teledyn, ok ,based on the output of that last command, how do I tell which is the device I want
[01:51] <_thumper_> teledyn: doesn't find my other core
[01:52] <Troy^> im confused im brand new to ubuntu but atm im download the .iso lol.. i just heard its kinda good to start at this distro to a newer linux user
[01:52] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: how many do you have?
[01:52] <Troy^> ive never heard of ubuntu before
[01:52] <viator> so sed -i -e 's/www\.website\.com//g' myfile.html ?
[01:52] <noelferreira> who can help me with rt61 driver?
[01:52] <gevaudan> what's everyone's opinion on xchat in edgy? i've tryed regular old xchat and gnome-xchat and well i honestly preferred the version that came with dapper...i don't like how you can't see the users list as before without temporarilly showing it...hell, maybe i just don't know how to configure the new version
[01:52] <Badkitty> Im new too troy I think you will like it
[01:52] <noelferreira> lupine_85: are you there?
[01:52] <Xzyx987X> 17
[01:52] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: dmesg |grep -i sd
[01:52] <jrib> viator: yes, if you don't put the -i it will just output what it does, so you can test it
[01:52] <Badkitty> Do you know how to burn a bootable iso?
[01:52] <maxxism> Troy^: its the best distro for new and advanced users
[01:53] <maxxism> imho
[01:53] <Troy^> ok
[01:53] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: cat /proc/partitions might also show you
[01:53] <lonran> is there any way to add the fade in-out effect to the screensaver in ubuntu?
[01:53] <bimberi> gevaudan: i liked xchat-gnome in dapper.  The edgy version loads the channel list automatically which is diabolical on a dialup
[01:53] <gevaudan> Troy^: agreed, i run it on my server and on my laptop w/o a problem
[01:53] <Likwidoxigen>  wget http://www.blogger.com
[01:53] <Likwidoxigen> --19:51:21--  http://www.blogger.com/
[01:53] <Likwidoxigen>            => `index.html'
[01:53] <Likwidoxigen> Resolving www.blogger.com... 66.102.15.100
[01:53] <Likwidoxigen> Connecting to www.blogger.com|66.102.15.100|:80... connected.
[01:53] <teledyn> Badkitty: cdrecord, k3b, xcdroast...
[01:53] <Likwidoxigen> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
[01:53] <Likwidoxigen> Location: http://www.blogger.com/start [following] 
[01:53] <Likwidoxigen> --19:52:16--  http://www.blogger.com/start
[01:53] <Likwidoxigen>            => `start'
[01:53] <Likwidoxigen> Connecting to www.blogger.com|66.102.15.100|:80... connected.
[01:53] <Likwidoxigen> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 503
[01:53] <Xzyx987X> ok, it's sda2
[01:53] <Likwidoxigen> 19:52:19 ERROR 503: (no description).
[01:53] <Likwidoxigen> gah
[01:53] <Likwidoxigen> crap that was supposed to go tothe pastebin
[01:53] <Xzyx987X> that's the partition
[01:54] <haunja> Hello all
[01:54] <ulinskie> hi haunja
[01:54] <bimberi> !hi
[01:54] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:54] <funkmaster> hey ppl, got a question, wanted to install opera on edgy, but somehow it ain't working, what repo do i need??
[01:54] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: mount it as /dev/sda  not dev/sda
[01:54] <AlReece45> would it be bad if ubuntu-minimal was removed?
[01:54] <jrib> !opera | funkmaster
[01:54] <ubotu> funkmaster: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[01:54] <teledyn> Xzyx987X:  /dev/sda2 sorry
[01:54] <gevaudan> funkmaster: just download it from opera's website..it works fine...the old PLF servers are no longer offering opera
[01:54] <haunja> I'm having a problem with DHCP not working on boot in  6.10
[01:55] <funkmaster> ah oki thx
[01:55] <matthew_w> !tell me about TV-OUT
[01:55] <Badkitty> thanks.. sorry that was actually a question for toy lol
[01:55] <Xzyx987X> seems to have worked
[01:55] <Troy^> i would like to download an iso throught a ftp client something i can resume because i dont have the fastest connection it the world and i would like a resume option to download the cd any advice..?
[01:55] <reiki> ok well THAT stunk... I installed nvidia-glx on Edgy. It didn't work so I've removed it and using "nv" driver. But now I've lost gl. How do I get it back?
[01:55] <paul__> can someone help me install wine it shows in adept installer but is greyed out and i cant install it that way
[01:55] <bimberi> AlReece45: not particularly, it's a metapackage, is an install of some sort wanting to remove it?
[01:55] <maxxism> is Opera a really appealing browser?  what can it do that firefox cant?
[01:55] <viator> crap ok how do i do it if i want to remove say http//www.website.com/directory
[01:55] <Badkitty> You could try a torrent Troy
[01:56] <gevaudan> maxxism: it's very fast and has a lot memory footprint...firefox is only as good as it is because of the plugins
[01:56] <Troy^> im having some trouble finding a torrent link for a desktop install 1386
[01:56] <viator> i dont get what the forwrd and back slashes around www are for
[01:56] <Troy^> i386*
[01:56] <jrib> viator: 's!http://www\.website\.com/directory!!g'
[01:56] <teledyn> Xzyx987X:  grub-install --root-directory=/target --recheck /dev/sda
[01:56] <Jaws> Can anyone recommend a PHP IDE?
[01:56] <gevaudan> maxxism: half of what firefox has comes from opera
[01:56] <Sensae> gevaudan: I followed all of it and I still can't even open a connection by going to the system and typing vncviewer localhost:1
[01:56] <AlReece45> bimberi: I'm compiling alsa, and removing alsa-base also removes ubuntu-minimal
[01:56] <haunja> I'm having a problem with DHCP not working on boot in  6.10
[01:56] <jrib> viator: the backslash is to escape the ., otherwise . means "any character"
[01:56] <Dr_willis> paul__,  try 'sudo apt-get install wine' ?
[01:56] <gevaudan> Sensae: what is the message in /var/log/syslog?
[01:56] <paul__> thank you will try
[01:56] <Xzyx987X> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/target --recheck /dev/sda
[01:56] <Xzyx987X> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[01:56] <Xzyx987X> Due to a bug in xfs_freeze, the following command might produce a segmentation
[01:56] <Xzyx987X> fault when /target/boot/grub is not in an XFS filesystem. This error is harmless and
[01:56] <Xzyx987X> can be ignored.
[01:56] <jrib> viator: s/foo/bar/  mean replace foo with bar, and I used ! instead there so you can use / inside
[01:56] <Xzyx987X> xfs_freeze: specified file ["/target/boot/grub"]  is not on an XFS filesystem
[01:56] <Badkitty> Troy go to isohunt
[01:56] <Xzyx987X> Installation finished. No error reported.
[01:56] <Badkitty> there are tons
[01:57] <Xzyx987X> This is the contents of the device map /target/boot/grub/device.map.
[01:57] <bimberi> AlReece45: will you reinstall it later (eg. using checkinstall)
[01:57] <Xzyx987X> Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
[01:57] <Xzyx987X> fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.
[01:57] <Xzyx987X> (fd0)   /dev/fd0
[01:57] <Troy^> badkitty ty
[01:57] <jrib> !paste > Xzyx987X
[01:57] <Xzyx987X> (hd0)   /dev/hda
[01:57] <teledyn> Xzyx987X:  and you want to manually inspect /target/boot/grub/menu.lst   check the entries for root
[01:57] <Xzyx987X> (hd1)   /dev/hdb
[01:57] <bimberi> AlReece45: ?
[01:57] <Xzyx987X> (hd2)   /dev/sda
[01:57] <Xzyx987X> sorry for the long paste...
[01:57] <Likwidoxigen>  I can't make a connection to blogger.com yet i can ping it and use it fine through opera  even wget gives me an error. Any ideas? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29249/
[01:57] <Xzyx987X> but does that look ok?
[01:57] <maxxism> hmm maybe i have to give Opera a try
[01:57] <Xzyx987X> k, brb
[01:57] <teledyn> shit didn't ubuntu patch that freaking bug?
[01:57] <Xzyx987X> yes, use opera
[01:57] <Xzyx987X> it's awesome
[01:57] <Badkitty> its i386 not 1386
[01:57] <Sensae> I see
[01:57] <AlReece45> bimberi, well, I wasn't using check-install, but I guess I could
[01:57] <teledyn> Xzyx987X:  try to run it.  if it freezes later on you can install lilo instead
[01:58] <Sensae> Unlisted service: Xvnc must havea  port entry. xinetd Version 2.3 started. Started working: 0 available services
[01:58] <reiki> how do I RE-enable glx using the nv driver? It was enabled on my clean install of Edgy until I tried to install nvidia-glx
[01:58] <Jaws> I need a good PHP IDE for Linux, any suggestions?
[01:58] <twb> After distupgrading to edgy, I no longer have direct rendering on my Radeon 9000 card using the Free `radeon' driver.  Suggestions?
[01:58] <Sensae> and I have a bad service attribute: post in my Xvnc config file
[01:58] <bimberi> AlReece45: it's a good idea, keeps things managed by apt.  Once you reinstall you will probably be able to install ubuntu-minimal again
[01:58] <gevaudan> Sensae: you must have left out the port entry then :) on the front page is what you need...just be sure to consult page 17 for the font issue if you are running edgy
[01:58] <AlReece45> bimberi: thanks
[01:58] <paul__> i get command not found
[01:58] <bimberi> AlReece45: np :)
[01:58] <Sensae> Yeah, I followed first page and then went to 17 to fix the font
[01:59] <Sensae> hold on
[01:59] <maxxism> quick question about DMA on cd-rom and DVD-roms...    is it on by default?
[01:59] <teledyn> Xzyx987X:  next time paste in #flood
[01:59] <Likwidoxigen> Jaws: gphpedit vim(gnome-vim) or gedit
[01:59] <gevaudan> telegyn: heh, there is a channel called #flood?
[01:59] <teledyn> maxxism: hdparm -d <device>    and find out
[01:59] <Sensae> gevaudan: lol, typo. I typed post = 5901 instead of port =
[01:59] <gevaudan> telegyn: must be chaos
[01:59] <Sensae> brb, testing again
[02:00] <Paddy_EIRE> how is an app installed with wine is it "sudo wine ./name_of_.exe
[02:00] <viator> man its taxing my cpu
[02:00] <bimberi> gevaudan: no, it's slower than this, just bursty ;)
[02:00] <AlReece45> bimberi: I was just a little bit afraid of removing it considering it says it handles booting the os ;P
[02:00] <Badkitty> yw troy
[02:00] <ivx> hey will ubuntu burn mp3s into cdas automatically? what will i have to do
[02:00] <kodat> so anyone been successful getting their wireless bcm43xx to work?
[02:00] <ivx> kodat yes
[02:00] <Troy^> ubuntu install is just like a click-click install sort of thing.. im also going to dual-boot. as well i am a dial up user will there be any problems?
[02:01] <maxxism> does edgy have WPA2 wireless support?
[02:01] <Jaws> Likwidoxigen, I wouldn't say gedit is a IDE...  I will look at gphpedit.  Thanks.
[02:01] <ivx> kodat what do you have 4318
[02:01] <gevaudan> Troy^: yes
[02:01] <Badkitty> try ndiswrapper
[02:01] <Dr_willis> Troy^,  dialup may or may not be a big issue.
[02:01] <kodat> ivx, think u can help me out? ive done every single doc thing..and its killin me
[02:01] <bimberi> AlReece45: yes, that would worry me too :) - but it's just a metapackage - dependant on lots of 'real' packages
[02:01] <ivx> kodat hold on i'll get you a link to what i did
[02:01] <Likwidoxigen> jaws: what sort of IDE features are you looking for? other than syntax highlighitng what more do you need for php?
[02:01] <Sayfor> God evenig
[02:01] <kodat> ivx, alright
[02:01] <Sayfor> good*
[02:01] <gevaudan> jaws: jedit is what i would use for php
[02:02] <Badkitty> BBL Folks I am going to Reinstall Ubuntu
[02:02] <Troy^> ok ty gevaudan, Dr_willis and Badkitty
[02:02] <bimberi> Troy^: dialup is OK.  You might want to read up on this first...
[02:02] <ivx> kodat type lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation in command promt
[02:02] <bimberi> !dialup | Troy^
[02:02] <ubotu> Troy^: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[02:02] <Badkitty> yw
[02:02] <Sensae> gevaudan: Slow and laggy but it's working. Ty.
[02:02] <Troy^> oh ok
[02:03] <AdamKili> Help please, trying to compile and can't diagnose error: checking for jar... /usr/bin/jar
[02:03] <AdamKili> configure: error: Can't find "swt.jar"
[02:03] <gevaudan> Sensae: on a lan? it shouldn't be as fast as real time but it should be pretty fast...if you are connecting from windows try the tightvnc viewer..it's what i use b/c it lets you choose the compression
[02:03] <Jaws> Likwidoxigen, I wasnt aware that gedit had syntax highlighting
[02:03] <X5-452> How do I delete a non empty folder with rmdir?
[02:03] <Xzyx987X> teledyn: title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic root (hd2,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda2
[02:03] <ivx> kodat let me know what you get
[02:03] <Jaws> gevaudan, ok thanks, will look at it
[02:03] <kodat> ivx haha ur using the article written by nick m on forums right?
[02:03] <Troy^> i hae living in the area i live in... no broadband services
[02:03] <Sensae> gevaudan: Starting the xserver was slow, it's on a 10-100mbit LAN, so it's just a little slower than realtime. I said "slow and laggy" while it was still going through startup, lol
[02:03] <Xzyx987X> that seems like the relevant info from the file
[02:04] <kodat> ivx, i got the broadcom dell wireless 1390 card
[02:04] <Likwidoxigen> Jaws: yup it highlights.
[02:04] <ivx> kodat no, i was going to give you one by compwiz18
[02:04] <Xzyx987X> root  (hd2,1) doesn't quite seem right though...
[02:04] <bimberi> Troy^: it probably has other benefits though :)
[02:04] <kodat> ivx, ah alright..dont think ive seen that one
[02:04] <ivx> kodat you have a different card then me
[02:04] <ivx> kodat, what have you done so far
[02:04] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: the (hd2,1) might be wrong
[02:04] <kodat> ivx, its still a broadcom 43xx driver though
[02:04] <viator> does sed usually take like 2 years to process
[02:04] <kodat> ivx, ive installed fwcutter
[02:04] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: did the grub-install command complete?
[02:04] <morfic> how can i inject a file into the kernel's initramfs?
[02:04] <viator> its taxing my cpu
[02:05] <ivx> kodat the 43xx driver only seems to work on the 4306
[02:05] <kodat> ivx, drivers for the card
[02:05] <kodat> ivx, oh
[02:05] <Xzyx987X> Installation finished. No error reported.
[02:05] <paul__> how can i tell what version of ubuntu im using
[02:05] <kodat> ivx, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[02:05] <AdamKili> Help please, trying to compile and can't diagnose error: checking for jar... /usr/bin/jar
[02:05] <AdamKili> configure: error: Can't find "swt.jar"
[02:05] <frisb> general purpose CPU/RAM/DISK monitor out of Add/Remove Programs?
[02:05] <kodat> ivx, this is what ive done so far
[02:05] <bimberi> !version | paul__
[02:05] <ubotu> paul__: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[02:05] <teledyn> Xzyx987X:  awesome
[02:05] <paul__> ty
[02:05] <ivx> kodat the link to what i did is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=ndiswrapper+howto
[02:05] <viator> its only an amd sempron
[02:05] <Xzyx987X> ok, should I try to boot it now?
[02:05] <krixks> hi everybody :D
[02:05] <bimberi> paul__: np :)
[02:05] <kodat> ivx, ill check it out
[02:05] <gevaudan> Sensae: good to hear it is working..in case you want to login to the gnome session in used with your computer the x11vnc part in that post works fine...but BE SURE to add the authentication parameter...ask me and i'll post it if you want...otherwise anyone can connect to your gnome box if it is exposed outside your firewall
[02:05] <ivx> kodat can you see any networks?
[02:05] <ninjaXP> hi everyone
[02:06] <krixks> after you guys are done helping whoever your helping a linux newb needs some help ;D
[02:06] <kodat> ivx, not in the area no >.< my iwconfig and everything shows my eth1 working..but i cant get any connection
[02:06] <andersja> I've got a weird problem: I have a Linksys WUSB11v4 USB wifi dongle that doesn't show up on lspci?
[02:06] <gevaudan> krixks: just post your question...this channel is madness anyway :)
[02:06] <ninjaXP> Did anyone come from thailand?
[02:06] <krixks> lol ok
[02:06] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: i think it should maybe be (hd0,1)
[02:06] <ivx> kodat did you install networkmanager or anything
[02:06] <bimberi> krixks: just ask away, if someone knows - they'll answer :)
[02:06] <paul__> !version did not work command not found
[02:06] <kodat> ivx, yeah ive done that, and even have ndiswrapper
[02:06] <paul__> srr event not found
[02:06] <maxxism> Edgy upgrade just finished hope all is well.
[02:07] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: try booting it.  if it fails, change that parameter
[02:07] <Sensae> gevaudan: Not sure I quite understand
[02:07] <uhmmm> edgy rocks
[02:07] <ivx> kodat does you light light up
[02:07] <bimberi> paul__: no, that was to get ubotu to tell you in this channel, the command is 'lsb_release -a'
[02:07] <kodat> ivx, of course
[02:07] <adi11235> is it possible to copy the contents of a linux iso file onto the hard disk and boot grub from that
[02:07] <krixks> I keep getting this error right before installing savage:battle for newerth(computer game) Error messege: Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
[02:07] <InnerF|RE> can i have someones sources.list
[02:07] <paul__> ok
[02:07] <InnerF|RE> ?
[02:07] <adi11235> the iso is of a linux installation disk
[02:07] <InnerF|RE> i havent gotten updates in a week
[02:07] <navaburo> My install CD hangs at the loading screen... what do i do?
[02:07] <gevaudan> Sensae: right now you are basically creating a separate resumable session that is external to your default gnome session (the one you see when you access the comptuer)...you can connect to your default gnome session using the x11vnc stuff in the guide
[02:07] <paul__> i need to find out what version of ubuntu i have to get the correct version of wine
[02:07] <bimberi> InnerF|RE: the developers are still recovering/sleeping :)
[02:07] <ivx> kodat okay do you have 2 computer icons in the corner of the screen
[02:07] <navaburo> is there a button to display the detailed info instead of the nice scrolly bar that tells me nothing?
[02:07] <andersja> navaburo: try the alternate CD?
[02:08] <VoX> man
[02:08] <InnerF|RE> so..
[02:08] <VoX> edgy is one big pile of fail
[02:08] <iamelite> hi everyone, I am having trouble setting my NV glx drivers. wont install.
[02:08] <krixks> navaburo: I agree with andersja
[02:08] <InnerF|RE> nothing is wrong with my sources.list?
[02:08] <krixks> navaburo: alternative cd is the way to go
[02:08] <InnerF|RE> there havent been updates?
[02:08] <Likwidoxigen> i can get to www.blogger.com in opera, i can wget from www.blogger.com i cannot however in firefox in safe mode (or normal) with everythigng to defaults (even my damn bookmarks rest) get the page to load. Any ideas?
[02:08] <Xzyx987X> I have other hard drives installed. hd0,0 and hd1,0 ae my ide drives...
[02:08] <gevaudan> VoX: only for upgrades
[02:08] <VoX> gevaudan: no
[02:08] <navaburo> krixks, is there one for kubuntu?
[02:08] <VoX> gevaudan: i just did a fresh install
[02:08] <Sensae> gevaudan: Okay, the default gnome session is a friend of mine, he's the only user of the system. I created another account for me, which I'm logging into via VNC, I'm the only one that knows the VNC password and will be the only one remote-connecting
[02:08] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: ah ok
[02:08] <paul__> lsb_release -a that command worked thank you much
[02:08] <Xzyx987X> anyway, I'll try a boot I guess...
[02:08] <maxxism> hahaha Upgrade got screwed.  X is broken.
[02:08] <Sensae> I set up VNC so I could remotely admin easier than through SSH
[02:08] <krixks> navaburo: I'm not sure, I'm a linux newb myself
[02:09] <kloneman> how do i get sound on flash
[02:09] <navaburo> ook, i got it
[02:09] <Sensae> and it's not likely I'll ever log in on the main system
[02:09] <maxxism> should I just delete my xorg.conf file?
[02:09] <teledyn> Xzyx987X: you can always install grub to hda
[02:09] <blind> I was having some issues with screen resolution.. I took out ALL the other resolutions in my xorg.conf -- didn't make a difference. It's like the computer's not even using my xorg.conf -- what other files are there? O_o
[02:09] <VoX> gevaudan: and xorg crashes constantly, browsing samba shares dont work, to name two main points
[02:09] <gevaudan> Sensae: you're fine then...no need for the x11vnc stuff...i like to keep both open but it's only because i'm the only user of the box
[02:09] <adi11235> I want to install ubuntu with harddisk install. Is that possible? I'm thinking of copying the installation disk somewhere on the hard drive, then use grub to load it.
[02:09] <ivx> kodat do you have 2 computer icons
[02:09] <bimberi> paul__: yw
[02:09] <Bacon5o_> Need some help using fdisk /fixboot & /fixmbr
[02:09] <krixks> anyone know how to fix gdk-warnings? Should i just ignore them?
[02:09] <Likwidoxigen> navaburo: yes there is one for kubuntu
[02:09] <InnerF|RE> someone give me their sources.list please
[02:09] <adi11235> I already have a linux version installed: ubuntu warty warthog
[02:09] <kodat> ivx, yeah, but i have a hard connection right now, when i change it to my eth1 it says disconnected
[02:09] <Sensae> gevaudan: Okay, cool.
[02:09] <navaburo> Likwidoxigen, thank you. I hope this one doesnt freeze too!
[02:09] <krixks> anyone :(
[02:10] <Likwidoxigen> navaburo: good luck!
[02:10] <ivx> kodat does it say anything for signal strength
[02:10] <krixks> *cry*
[02:10] <kodat> ivx, yeah, says none
[02:10] <Likwidoxigen> i can get to www.blogger.com in opera, i can wget from www.blogger.com i cannot however in firefox in safe mode (or normal) with everythigng to defaults (even my damn bookmarks rest) get the page to load. Any ideas?\
[02:10] <maxxism> haha.  I guess I am reinstalling.
[02:10] <gevaudan> VoX: hmm, haven't had a problem with browsing samba shares...of course i manually edited smb.conf and didn't use ubuntu's gui configuration tool...really the only real problem i've had is in adjusting hte date/time...i submitted a bug report last night and was told it has already been fixed and will be available in the next patch literally like 15 minutes after submitting it
[02:10] <InnerF|RE> fucking assholes, nobody ever responds in this channel
[02:10] <kodat> ivx, but my wireless is set up..i have 4 other computers using it at the moment, they are on windos
[02:10] <krixks> anyone know how to get rid of gdk-warnings?
[02:10] <kodat> ivx, windows
[02:10] <oeb> can anyone help with a lt_modem lt_serial after a dapper update from 2.6.15.23 -->.27
[02:10] <ninjaXP> __
[02:10] <gevaudan> VoX: rome wasn't built in a day...it will take a few weeks to sort out all the bugs...just use the bug reporting tool
[02:10] <Sensae> gevaudan: Could you aid me in one more task? I switched over from Gentoo last night and I'm still getting my bearings in Ubuntu, even more so because I usually use KDE. I'm trying to install the sun JVM
[02:11] <ivx> kodat so then you have a problem with those drivers, once you can get it do say you have signal strenght it will work
[02:11] <Likwidoxigen> InnerF|RE: let me pastebin mine real quick
[02:11] <maxxism> wow InnerFIRE.  keep that up and expect the same
[02:11] <gevaudan> Sensae: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[02:11] <InnerF|RE> screw that maxxism
[02:11] <kloneman> does anyone wish to aide me?
[02:11] <illovae> excusez moi, y'a des utilisateurs fluxbox ici ?
[02:11] <maxxism> aide you how?
[02:11] <Sensae> gevaudan: Okay
[02:11] <DBO> !fr
[02:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:11] <ninjaXP> can anyone tell me about how to install the Automatix on Dapper
[02:11] <InnerF|RE> people come here with real questions
[02:11] <VoX> gevaudan: well i'd think that when the screen saver starts, xorg craps itself and restarts gdm to be a 'slight' issue.
[02:11] <illovae> ou bien quelqu'un connat un forum fluxbox qui est bien ?
[02:11] <ivx> kodat what was your card call again
[02:11] <InnerF|RE> and they never get answered
[02:11] <bbrazil> !automatix | ninjaXP
[02:11] <ubotu> ninjaXP: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[02:11] <kodat> ivx, blah..what to do then
[02:11] <krixks> is it safe to ignore gdk warnings?
[02:11] <InnerF|RE> all of you linux no it alls
[02:11] <navaburo> InnerF|RE, Google.com has real answers
[02:12] <InnerF|RE> ya...
[02:12] <ivx> kodat i'll google it for you, what is the name of the card
[02:12] <InnerF|RE> and perhaps i searched their first and couldnt get my answers
[02:12] <VoX> gevaudan: same with going to a console, then returning to the X-session, causes xorg to restart aswell
[02:12] <Likwidoxigen> kloneman:
[02:12] <krixks> wait InnerFire was that toward me?
[02:12] <kodat> ivx, its a dell wireless 1390
[02:12] <maxxism> InnerFIRE   its know not no
[02:12] <illovae> oops sorry bad channel :/
[02:12] <InnerF|RE> thats why im here "genius"
[02:12] <kloneman> i need help with flash on ubuntu
[02:12] <gevaudan> VoX: is it an opengl screensaver? i haven't had this problem so it must be something hardware centric
[02:12] <InnerF|RE> screw off
[02:12] <kodat> ivx, broadcom dell wireless 1390
[02:12] <InnerF|RE> you get my point
[02:12] <InnerF|RE> whether its know or no
[02:12] <krixks> im so confused
[02:12] <krixks> anyone know how to get rid of gdk-warnings?
[02:12] <ivx> kodat but is it an external or built in
[02:12] <maxxism> klone what about flash?
[02:12] <kodat> ivx, built in
[02:12] <green_earz> Sensae: you can use xtightvncviewer and tightvncserver  and they will do the ssh tunnel for you http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/VNC/vnc-over-ssh.html
[02:13] <navaburo> DBO, ahh... peace
[02:13] <nbx909> heh edgy has me comming in here every 5 minutes lol
[02:13] <Likwidoxigen> kloneman: what's your problme with it?
[02:13] <kloneman> my sound isn't working, only with flash
[02:13] <DBO> navaburo, his conduct was unacceptable
[02:13] <VoX> gevaudan: i dont even get that far. if i click on 'screensaver' from system->preferences->screensaver, gnome starts to draw the screensaver box, then xorg crashes and restarts
[02:13] <krixks> @_@
[02:13] <ivx> kodat hmm give me a sec, the most important think is someone will figure it out evenchally
[02:13] <navaburo> DBO, agreed.
[02:13] <maxxism> Klone are you using flash 9 or 7?
[02:13] <ruben> hi
[02:13] <Likwidoxigen> kloneman: what kind of computer? what sound card? and does you r sound work with anythign else?
[02:13] <kodat> ivx, hehe..ive been tryin for 3 days now
[02:13] <maxxism> 9 beta is much better
[02:13] <Sensae> gevaudan: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jdk, I tried an apt-cache search sun-java as well, and my system is set up to universe
[02:13] <nbx909> okay here's my next question is there a way to list all connected ttyS type devices
[02:13] <gevaudan> VoX: does the bug reporting feature prompt you to submit a bug report once you log back in?
[02:13] <Troy^> the installation of a dial up modem on ubuntu seems somewhat complicated process.. even with one machine and no way of following the guide in ubuntu with no internet service
[02:14] <nbx909> or just all devices and their address
[02:14] <VoX> gevaudan: nope
[02:14] <krixks> HOW U MINE FOR FISH!?!?! (lol)
[02:14] <Likwidoxigen> i can get to www.blogger.com in opera, i can wget from www.blogger.com i cannot however in firefox in safe mode (or normal) with everythigng to defaults (even my damn bookmarks rest) get the page to load. Any ideas?
[02:14] <kloneman> it only doesnt work with flash, dell, no card
[02:14] <gevaudan> Sensae: add the repos featured in ubuntuguide.org...just comment out the PLF repos (no longer maintained and offline) and hte last one (listen repo i think)
[02:14] <ninjaXP> and can anyone tell me how to solver the problem about the MP3 player in Totem?
[02:14] <maxxism> kloneman:  go and install flash 9 beta
[02:14] <DBO> krixks, keep the offtopicness and general insanity to a minimum here, we got enough crazyiness =)
[02:14] <gevaudan> Sensae: after doing so type apt-get update and then go on with the installation of java
[02:14] <maxxism> it fixed my flash audio problems
[02:14] <bimberi> Troy^: in my case i used one command - 'sudo pppconfig'.  it might be different for you.  That page covers a lot of ground, most of which may not be applicable to you
[02:14] <krixks> lol sorry just had to
[02:14] <ninjaXP> and in Rythembox too
[02:14] <kloneman> im a linux newb
[02:14] <navaburo> Likwidoxigen, which firefox version?
[02:14] <Likwidoxigen> kloneman: what sort of dell? have you googled for it? and like maxxism said what version of flash?
[02:14] <Likwidoxigen> navaburo: firefox 2
[02:14] <ivx> kodat yeah my broadcom 4318 didn't work for like 4 months till someone figured it out. now i have no need for windose
[02:15] <krixks> seriously though, anyone know how to fix gdk warnings, and if it's safe to ignore them?
[02:15] <kloneman> dell 4700
[02:15] <DigitalNinja> I have an onboard nvidia card. I also have a pcie nvidia card. When I boot linux I get video from the pcie card. However, it locks up the system.
[02:15] <Likwidoxigen> kloneman: i agree with maxxism definately get the flash 9 beta
[02:15] <gevaudan> VoX: it's definitly something worthy of a bug report, but chances are in order to get it fixed you'll have to communicate back and forth with the developers for a few weeks so they get all the information they need
[02:15] <kodat> ivx, lol i want my wireless to work..i have everything on ubuntu workin fine now except my wireless...well everythin workin that i need
[02:15] <DigitalNinja> Looking at /proc/drivers/nvidia/cards I see two
[02:15] <DigitalNinja> 0 and 1
[02:15] <bimberi> krixks: when do you get them?
[02:15] <kloneman> k thanks
[02:15] <iamelite> !help windows
[02:15] <maxxism> kloneman: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[02:15] <blind> Question: my friend tried to upgrade to edgy and it broke his computer, and he's a noob, so I suggested he just go to dapper. can he just reinstall dapper over edgy or does a reformat need to be done?
[02:15] <DigitalNinja> 0 is the onboard and 1 is the pcie card
[02:15] <krixks> right before trying to install this game
[02:16] <DigitalNinja> Both files say that both cards are on the same IRQ
[02:16] <navaburo> Likwidoxigen, no idea... try a link to somewhere inside blogger, ie http://hotwigati.blogspot.com/\
[02:16] <DigitalNinja> Is this bad
[02:16] <krixks> Savage: Battle for Newerth
[02:16] <iamelite> hey what is the help command?
[02:16] <iamelite> is it !info?
[02:16] <gevaudan> call me old school but linux is just not ready for running windows 32 games...causes way more problems than it is worth
[02:16] <krixks> iamlite: on the terminal?
[02:16] <ivx> kodat yeah i know what you mean. don't worry thought it will work shorty, don't give up, stick with linux, someone will get it
[02:16] <Troy^> bimberi: oh ok i guess i just got kind of confused bimberi how do i know if my installation is as simple with my modem i have a U.S. Robotics Model: USR263092-OEM
[02:16] <bimberi> krixks: as a general rule, warnings aren't too much to worry about.  I don't know about your situation though
[02:16] <E[m] ess> edgy upgrade fails because xorg has brken packages, is there a work around?
[02:16] <kodat> ivx, lol yeah hopefully
[02:17] <navaburo> gevaudan, depends how you define "games". Minesweeper works quite excelently
[02:17] <bimberi> Troy^: is that internal or external?
[02:17] <Troy^> internal
[02:17] <Troy^> PCI
[02:17] <oeb> dapper kubuntu install of 6.06lts allow my lt_modem to work I lose it and the modules after an update to from .15-23 -->15-27 the modules are in the -23 directory but putting them in the 27 directory and modprobing doesn't work
[02:17] <Likwidoxigen> navaburo:  nope can't load anything past the title bar... hmm. that's interesting that wasn't even loading before.
[02:17] <gevaudan> navaburo: i agree, but isn't there a linux port already? i'm talking about the newest of the new and all that relies on direct3d
[02:17] <VoX> gevaudan: which i cant really do, as this is a work machine. :(
[02:17] <ninjaXP> can anyone help me about the problem with Totem in dapper?
[02:17] <krixks> bimberi: well its a game for linux, and I have a pretty fresh install...and um..as soon as I run the installer, it uncompresses it and stuff, and then it displays a gdk-warning right before showing the gui.
[02:17] <ivx> kodat, i know if you really want it that bad, some people take apart there notebooks to swap the card, but a lot of time there is  bios issues then
[02:18] <bimberi> Troy^: hm, i'm not sure.  It might be a winmodem, in which case you will have an interesting time getting it working
[02:18] <maxxism> whats wrong with Totem?
[02:18] <kodat> ivx, yeah i dont feel like doing that really haha
[02:18] <krixks> bimberi: this is the gdk warning-Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
[02:18] <gevaudan> maxxism: it doesn't play wmv files which practically everysite uses
[02:18] <krixks> bimberi: should I just ignore it?
[02:18] <Troy^> ehhhhh :/
[02:18] <ivx> kodat you could get a pcmcia card, but i know that is kinda dumb to do
[02:18] <gevaudan> maxxism: i use vlc and the mediaconnectivity plugin for firefox...i have no problems with any media using that combination
[02:18] <kodat> ivx, yeah
[02:18] <okn> hi there to all
[02:18] <krixks> hi okn
[02:18] <maxxism> yeah I stick only to VLC  it rocks
[02:19] <okn> i've some ubu questions :)
[02:19] <ivx> kodat did you read http://littlepeople.net/~jpk/projects/d420_ubuntu.html
[02:19] <maxxism> I actually uninstalled totem
[02:19] <krixks> @_@ new error
[02:19] <bimberi> krixks: if the game works, ignore it.
[02:19] <okn> i just installed ubuntu yet, i want to leave X. init 3 is not working...what should i do ?
[02:19] <gevaudan> maxxism: how did you manager that? when i tried it asked me to remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:19] <ninjaXP> maxxism | it doesn't play mp3 ()
[02:19] <maxxism> i know that doesnt fix your problem.
[02:19] <krixks> lol ok
[02:19] <kodat> ivx, dunno lemme see
[02:19] <krixks> ill try right now
[02:19] <bimberi> :)
[02:19] <maxxism> gevaudan thats ok.  its not really removing all of that
[02:19] <ivx> kodat if you had the 4318 i could hook you up, i don't think i can thought, sry
[02:19] <ninjaXP> maxxism : so how i can do to play MP3 format?
[02:20] <sticazzi> Applications -> Add/Remove :: I can find the Sun Java JRE 1.5, but I can't find the SDK... any link on how to get it installed, or should I do a manual install?
[02:20] <maxxism> add Gstreamer plugins
[02:20] <oeb> what ubuntu chat should I ask about laptop LT_MODEMS
[02:20] <krixks> what are startup menu entries? lol newb question :D
[02:20] <nbx909> anyone? how do you list all devices in the terminal?
[02:20] <maxxism> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[02:20] <kodat> ivx, well i know ndiswrapper, with the driver i was using (the 43xx) it said hardware : yes
[02:20] <Sensae> Aha, there we go. I didn't have multiverse
[02:20] <gevaudan> maxxism: i might try that after a couple of drinks...that's a warning message i wouldn't take lightly
[02:20] <ninjaXP> maxxism: how i can find out Gstreamer plugins
[02:20] <killown> xorg has support to card video  via s3g unichrome?
[02:20] <maxxism> go to that website i just posted
[02:20] <okn> Does anyone know why " init 3 " is not working with Ubuntu ?
[02:20] <ivx> kodat ndiswrapper is a pain in the but most of the time
[02:20] <sticazzi> nbx909, 'ls /dev'
[02:20] <ninjaXP> maxxism: OK i will
[02:20] <gevaudan> ninjaXP; search codecs at ubuntuguide.org
[02:20] <maxxism> and read about installing mp3 codedc
[02:21] <maxxism> codecs
[02:21] <navaburo> How big is a typicall ubuntu install????
[02:21] <kodat> ivx, lol yeah ive noticed
[02:21] <killown> xorg has support to card video  via s3g unichrome?
[02:21] <nbx909> sticazzi, is there a way to have it list the device name as well?
[02:21] <krixks> lol xchat question: how do you list all the users in a channel?
[02:21] <paul__> apt-get install wine
[02:21] <paul__> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:21] <paul__> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:21] <dredhammer> hello is there is GUI frontend for cURL?
[02:21] <gevaudan> krxks: click the 978 users thing at hte bottom of the server list (the left window)
[02:21] <paul__> when i do apt-get install wine
[02:22] <paul__> i get
[02:22] <okn> guys, how can i quit X server ??
[02:22] <bimberi> paul__: close synaptic
[02:22] <paul__> ok
[02:22] <AlReece45> Is there a way to remove a package without removing the packages thatdepend on it?
[02:22] <ivx> kodat, i heard of a commerical program similar to ndiswrapper than is suppost to work better, it is 20 bucks i think
[02:22] <krixks> gevaudan: there's blank space there
[02:22] <bimberi> okn: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop    (or 'restart' to restart it)
[02:22] <LjL> AlReece45: yeah... using dpkg and forcing the depends. don't do that.
[02:22] <Xzyx987X_> Error 17: failed to mount partition
[02:22] <gevaudan> not sure which version you are running...i'm using xchat-gnome
[02:22] <wd> i have a tough one for u all, go here..... http://rafb.net/paste/results/yxSLtU59.html  cant get modules to load.
[02:22] <Xzyx987X_> but hey, at least the bootloader worked
[02:22] <okn> bimberi: any easy what ? should i do this all the time i wanna close x ?
[02:22] <kodat> ivx, haha screw that i aint payin for nothing
[02:23] <krixks> gevaudan: on the top left it says Ubuntu Servers, then underneath #ubuntu
[02:23] <dredhammer> hello is there is GUI frontend for cURL?
[02:23] <krixks> gevaudan: but thats it
[02:23] <Likwidoxigen> okn: might have to do with teh switch from init to upstart though i will say that i'm not sure
[02:23] <Likwidoxigen> okn:  are you using sudo?
[02:23] <gevaudan> krxks: even at the very bottom...to the left of where you type?
[02:23] <Sensae> gevaudan: Thanks again
[02:23] <AlReece45> LjL, how should I go about install a more recent alsa-utils (that doesn't have a package)?
[02:23] <paul__> it said the package does not exist
[02:23] <krixks> gevaudan: also how do you tell what version you have?
[02:23] <ivx> kodat yeah just give it time then, the next version of ubuntu is suppost to be better with wifi, maby it will be out of the box for ya then,
[02:23] <Xzyx987X_> teledyn: bootloader worked, but I got error 17: failed to mount partition
[02:23] <gevaudan> krixks: Help -> About
[02:23] <bimberi> okn: others might confirm/deny this, but I think logging out of gnome restarts X
[02:23] <AlReece45> LjL, would a simple checkinstall then install that package do it?
[02:23] <JaZy84>  i've installed ubuntu 6.06 on my 200mmz mmx machine with 64mbs of ram and it when it trys to load the kernel it will just reboot
[02:24] <JaZy84> this is ubuntu-server
[02:24] <Xzyx987X_> so I guess the hd setting was wrong after all...
[02:24] <JaZy84> not the lamp just regular one
[02:24] <krixks> gevaudan: it just says 2.6.6
[02:24] <JaZy84> are there requirements that anyone knows of?
[02:24] <LjL> AlReece45: ouch, honestly i wouldn't install something like alsa-utils manually
[02:24] <krixks> gevaudan: and all it says next to the typing box is "krixks"
[02:24] <gevaudan> krixks: you're probally using regular old xchat...maybe someone else can help you...i don't have that installed
[02:24] <bimberi> JaZy84: i would have thought ubuntu-server would be OK on that
[02:25] <krixks> gevaudan: regular old? well how do you get "new and improved" :D
[02:25] <gevaudan> kricks: alternativly installed xchat-gnome and remove the other xchat...use synaptec and search for xchat
[02:25] <JaZy84> yeah me too, i've ran 5.X on it with no problems
[02:25] <sipher> I'm doing a dist upgrade right now. I've been hearing people have been having issues?...anything I should know about?
[02:25] <JaZy84> but i have seemed to have misplaced my cd, so i was looking and saw 6.06
[02:26] <AlReece45> LjL, normally I wouldn't either, but to get the rest of my sound card working I need to use the alsa that just came out and I'm not sure its good that alsa-utils is there when i'm trying to use another alsa-utils
[02:26] <gevaudan> sipher: if you've done a lot of customizing all i can say is better be prepared for a clean install
[02:26] <sipher> really?
[02:26] <sipher> FUCk.
[02:26] <ninjaXP> maxxism : and can i find the plug ins on dapper cd?
[02:26] <paul__> ok i found where to get wind for ubuntu dapper and breezy but i think i have edgy
[02:26] <LjL> !language | sipher
[02:26] <ubotu> sipher: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:26] <maxxism> ninjaXP did you read on how to install other repositories??
[02:26] <sipher> =/ sorry.
[02:26] <sipher> but man.
[02:26] <maxflax> What is "ubuntu minimal" and do I need it.. ?
[02:26] <Likwidoxigen> anyone usuing a laptop having problems with getting logged out (x reset) when the open the screen back up?
[02:26] <krixks> gevudan: XD what? newbie terms please lol
[02:27] <sipher> if it makes my stuff not work.
[02:27] <sipher> I will be very upset.
[02:27] <maxxism> you need to add the multiverse and universe repositories first..
[02:27] <bimberi> maxflax: it's a metapackage, and good to have around, but not vital
[02:27] <ninjaXP> maxxism: oh i see.
[02:27] <maxxism> ninjaXP all the non-free stuff is there.
[02:27] <kodat> ivx, lol wonder how long till ubuntu does come out with better wifi
[02:27] <gevaudan> krixks: did i say xd? if i did i didn't mean too...open synaptec and type xchat...remove all the xchat currently installed and install xchat-gnome
[02:27] <Nuked> I have a problem. I recently upgraded from dapper to edgy, and my usb printers are not being detected. I reinstalled all drivers and cups itself. They are still not recognized.
[02:27] <LjL> AlReece45: oh well... looking at the contents of alsa-utils, it doesn't seem to contain anything *too* vital. so you could probably use checkinstall and just give the package a different name, and keep both installed (the checkinstall one will normally end up in /usr/local, you know)
[02:28] <Nuked> how do I fix that
[02:28] <sipher> gevaudan it won't remove applications I have installed?
[02:28] <sipher> and like....my xorg config?
[02:28] <ivx> kodat, i heard the next release will be in april, i would give it no more than 3 months and it will be able to work easy
[02:28] <krixks> gevaudan: ok...now whats synaptic lol
[02:28] <greguti> hi all, I need to create lots of cover.bmp files, from lots of cover.jpg files. I want to do it in command line. My files are in /music/artist/album/cover.jpg
[02:28] <kodat> ivx, lol
[02:28] <ivx> kodat, is this a new or not so new notebook
[02:28] <kodat> ivx, yah brand new
[02:28] <sipher> The hole reason I'm upgrading is for direct rendering..
[02:28] <greguti> I know the command convert -resize 50x50 cover.jpg cover.bmp
[02:28] <maxflax> bimberi, was trying to remove the alsa-base package and that would mean removing the ubuntu-minimal aswell.. Im compiling my own alsa-drivers.. no need for the old crap drivers staying and maybe causing errors
[02:28] <wd> how do i get the nicks to show
[02:29] <gevaudan> sipher: all i know is  i tried to upgrade to edgy from dapper and it froze during the boot process...i didn't care enough to figure out what hte problem was so i backed up my documents and reinstalled
[02:29] <AE_Wu> Can anyone help with my problem.  I have installed the os and I'm trying to figure out how to install ilife 06.  When I open the os it doesn't show the cd when I have it in the drive nor do I know how to copy the iso file ot the fack hdd?  Can someone tell me how to make this happen?
[02:29] <AlReece45> LjL, you think alsa-utils would have any problems with newer alsa drivers loading?
[02:29] <greguti> but I need to apply it to ALL the /cover.jpg files in the sub-directories. Any hints?
[02:29] <krixks> gevaudan: nvm found it
[02:29] <sipher> gevaudan ugh.
[02:29] <Toma-> can anyone give me a link to how this new uuid garbage works?
[02:29] <maxxism> It seems everyone trying the upgrade process is having problems.
[02:29] <sipher> it better not.
[02:29] <Tokenbad> anyone know why in vmware I get no sound?
[02:29] <ivx> kodat, yeah that is the problem, no one had a chance to rig it yet, if you are planning to put a linux on something the very latest won't work usually
[02:29] <krixks> k bbl
[02:29] <DigitalNinja> Is it better to get a motherboard without built in video?
[02:29] <wmhtet> when I try to run make for this package http://www.benzedrine.cx/icbirc.tar.gz I got 'Makefile:9: *** missing separator. Stop.' error. how can i fix that issue? i know that it's easy fix for you guys but i am a bit clueless, thx for the help. here is the info on package i m trying to run make, it's a very small package http://www.benzedrine.cx/icbirc.html
[02:30] <Nuked> maxxism, definitely
[02:30] <sgorilla80> what the best program for managing passwords in linux?
[02:30] <gevaudan> DigitalNinja: yes
[02:30] <Likwidoxigen> AE_Wu: are you tring to install a mac package into ubunut?
[02:30] <kodat> ivx, very true
[02:30] <LjL> AlReece45: *shrug* i don't really know
[02:30] <AE_Wu> Yeah I'm trying to take the cd iso I have and install it onto the hdd.
[02:30] <AlReece45> LjL, k, thanks anyways
[02:30] <Likwidoxigen> sgorilla80: keepassx
[02:30] <DigitalNinja> gevaudan: Maybe I should switch motherboards then. The onboard video works but the pcie card locks up. They are both nvidia cards.
[02:30] <ivx> kodat, how long have you been playing with linux
[02:30] <Likwidoxigen> sgorilla80: http://keepassx.sourceforge.net/
[02:31] <kodat> ivx,  days
[02:31] <kodat> ivx, 4 das
[02:31] <Nuked> Is there anyone capable of helping me with my issue?
[02:31] <bimberi> maxflax: that (removing ubuntu-minimal) should be fine
[02:31] <kodat> ivx, lol  days..
[02:31] <gevaudan> DigitalNinja: are you trying to run dual monitors or something?
[02:31] <Likwidoxigen> AE_Wu: iLife is designed to run on a mac, not on linux, it's not made for the linux operating system...
[02:31] <MTecknology> Can somebody tell me why the gparted on Ubuntu Live won't resize my partitions?
[02:31] <gevaudan> Nuked: no
[02:31] <ivx> kodat, just stick with it, you will be so glad you did, windoze will suck more and more each day
[02:31] <bimberi> maxflax: have you considered using checkinstall to install your compiled version.  Keeps everything managed by apt
[02:31] <kodat> ivx, lol stupid keyboard..my 4 doesnt work unless i smash it hard
[02:31] <AE_Wu> What about with pear pc?
[02:31] <bimberi> ?
[02:31] <DigitalNinja> gevaudan: No. I'm just trying to get my 7600GT video card to work.
[02:32] <Nuked> gevaudan, ?
[02:32] <krixks> yay it works :D
[02:32] <kodat> ivx, lol im gettin frustrated with firefox ..i cant use flash because every webpage crashes my firefox
[02:32] <Tokenbad> anyone know why i get no sound in vmware....when play like flash movies....but its windows in vmware...
[02:32] <AE_Wu> And what programs like iphoto or idvd 6 will work in either of the two?
[02:32] <ivx> kodat try to find a video called revolotion os, that will be informitive
[02:32] <gevaudan> DigitalNinja: hard to say...have you tried changing the PCI slot?
[02:32] <Xzyx987X_> ok, so grub is giving me error 17: failed to mount partition when I try to boot
[02:32] <Likwidoxigen> AE_Wu: only if you have a power pc version of OSX installed in there and are installing the package into that
[02:32] <Xzyx987X_> how can I fix this?
[02:32] <gevaudan> Nuked: sorry...just ask your question...the channel is cluttered enough as it is :)
[02:32] <DigitalNinja> gevaudan: I only have one pcie slot. It's a micro atx motherboard
[02:32] <kodat> ivx, how do i unzip something into a folder..whats the command..unzip "blah" and what else
[02:32] <DaBuss> Hey everyone, i'm about to install Edgy, does it have better support for Broadcom 4318 (AirForce One) ?
[02:33] <gevaudan> DigitalNinja: what type of card are you running on the pcie slot?
[02:33] <Likwidoxigen> MTecknology: well... what sort of errors are you getting?
[02:33] <ivx> kodat what is the extension, is it *.zip
[02:33] <Nuked> I have a problem. I recently upgraded from dapper to edgy, and my usb printers are not being detected. I reinstalled all drivers and cups itself. They are still not recognized. How do I rectify the situation?
[02:33] <sgorilla80> Likwidoxigen: thanks, i will check that out
[02:33] <DigitalNinja> gevaudan: MSI nx7600gt
[02:33] <AE_Wu> I do have the power pc version
[02:33] <gevaudan> kodat: man unzip
[02:33] <wd> hey guys need help loading sensor in kernel go here for paste  http://rafb.net/paste/results/yxSLtU59.html
[02:33] <kodat> ivx, well i know how to unzip it..but i mean..what do i put after the file to create a folder to unzip it to
[02:33] <gevaudan> DigitalNinja: is there a bios setting to disable onboard video?
[02:33] <AE_Wu> But it doesn't even show up for me so I don't know how to get it to install
[02:33] <Likwidoxigen> Nuked: try re-installing the ohci and uhci packages, or whatever the ones that have to do with usb support are
[02:34] <kodat> ivx, i dont want all the files to be scattered randomly on my screen
[02:34] <Xzyx987X_> ok, who thinks I should just give lilo a shot?
[02:34] <maxflax> bimberi, I have checkinstall.. installed.. but alsa have a good uninstall in their make..
[02:34] <johny5> Did they replace the disk management utility in Edgy with something else, or just completely remove it?
[02:34] <MTecknology> Likwidoxigen: none, it starts working then after a while it rescans the drives and shows no changes
[02:34] <orion> l
[02:34] <ivx> kodat you should just be able to click is and select upzip, i am certain it should creat a dir
[02:34] <DigitalNinja> gevaudan: No. You just put the card in and it uses that card.
[02:34] <MutantX> toshiba linux problem: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=495895
[02:34] <orion> l
[02:34] <Likwidoxigen> MTecknology: are you applying the changes are you make them?
[02:34] <kodat> ivx, well its a .exe, which ive unzipped before
[02:34] <ivx> kodat you don't have to do that from the command promt
[02:34] <kodat> ivx, so its not a regular unzip
[02:34] <Toma-> does fstab work without the uuid entries?
[02:34] <MTecknology> Likwidoxigen: yea, what i said happens after that
[02:34] <ivx> kodat will just make a dir and put it in there then unzip
[02:34] <krixks> nooo
[02:34] <bimberi> maxflax: ah, good then :)
[02:35] <krixks> what is this? Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:35] <gevaudan> DigitalNinja: check bios just in case...i understand it works by default...but that's probally for dual monitor purposes...some bioses have an option to explicitly disable onboard video
[02:35] <E[m] ess> im trying to upgrade to edgy but because of the beerorkid repo i was getting dependency clashes, i tried the fix for that but acpid and acpid-support are interfering with it, anyone help?
[02:35] <kodat> ivx, lol >.< if i just do unzip "filename" its gona scatter everything all over the place i think
[02:35] <digilink> I just upgraded my kernel to 2.6.15-27-k7 and I have the Nvidia driver installed. Now whenever I reboot using the new kernel X fails to start and looking through the logs says that it can't load the nvidia module. I installed the kernel using synaptic and I am running 6
[02:35] <ice-11> i'm having issues with a toshiba laptop with a phoenix bios...
[02:35] <krixks> what is this? Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:35] <DigitalNinja> gevaudan: This BIOS doesn't have that option.
[02:35] <ice-11> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=495895
[02:35] <gevaudan> E[m] ess: if your problem is what i think it is add noapictimer as a boot option
[02:35] <digilink> *6.06. hit the enter key too fast
[02:35] <krixks> to admin pplz: can I just spam my question :D?
[02:36] <babo> is edgy 6.10 yes ?
[02:36] <gevaudan> DigitalNinaja: hmm...could be anything really...hard to diagnose
[02:36] <ivx> kodat for every command there are man files, you can check those out
[02:36] <krixks> what is this? Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:36] <paul__> could some one go here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/wine and tell me what to download to easly install wine
[02:36] <MTecknology> Likwidoxigen: any ideas?
[02:36] <kodat> ivx, i just unzipped it and have it all over the place, so nvm lol
[02:36] <krixks> what is this? Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:36] <DaBuss> Hey everyone, i'm about to install Edgy, does it have better support for Broadcom 4318 (AirForce One) ? or is it the same BS as we all have with Dapper?
[02:36] <Toma-> krixks: STOP repeating
[02:36] <bimberi> krixks: i'm guessing that you need hardware accelerated video running
[02:36] <Nuked> Likwidoxigen, any idea as to what the package name for those two items are ( ohci and uhci)
[02:36] <krixks> toma: sorry lol
[02:36] <Toma-> krixks: it means your drivers are not installed properly
[02:36] <Likwidoxigen> MTecknology: that's really odd. have you tried doing it in stages? like removing the partitiions first then recreating one at a time? maybe there's a volume group that is left hanging around?
[02:36] <Likwidoxigen> Nuked:  let me poke around
[02:36] <gevaudan> DaBuss: try searching ubuntuforums.org...plenty of posts related to it...i don't have the card so i can't elaborate further
[02:37] <krixks> toma: so how do I install them properly @_@
[02:37] <MTecknology> Likwidoxigen: All I'm trying to do right now is resize
[02:37] <wd> DigitalNinja, help... http://rafb.net/paste/results/yxSLtU59.html
[02:37] <E[m] ess> gevaudan: that didnt help, its something else, hangon adn il pastebin it
[02:37] <Toma-> krixks: do yolu have nvidia or ati card?
[02:37] <krixks> toma: nvidia
[02:37] <Nuked> Likwidoxigen, no problemo
[02:37] <Abst> !ubuntu
[02:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[02:37] <Toma-> !nvidia > krixks
[02:37] <ivx> kodat good luck i gotta go to the store
[02:37] <ivx> kodat later man
[02:37] <Likwidoxigen> MTecknology: what kind of partition is it?
[02:37] <wd> DigitalNinja, i got this message while trying to test sensors
[02:37] <rapiscan> !pastebin
[02:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:38] <MTecknology> Likwidoxigen: NTFS
[02:38] <DigitalNinja> wd: Reading the link now
[02:38] <wd> DigitalNinja, thanks
[02:38] <MTecknology> Likwidoxigen: they're on /dev/sda
[02:38] <Likwidoxigen> MTecknology: that could be the problem, i've had issues with taht before, make sure that that partition is scandisked fully and defragmented
[02:38] <MTecknology> alright
[02:38] <wd> papiscan thanks i'll remember that link
[02:38] <MTecknology> I'll go back into windows and work through that first
[02:38] <MTecknology> thanks
[02:39] <wd> rapiscan, rafb seems faster thats all
[02:39] <E[m] ess> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Pc49hJ50.html <--here, no idea whats wrong
[02:39] <babo> if I do a complete reinstall for edgy, will my files on the disk be copied over ?
[02:39] <Likwidoxigen> Nuked:  libusb and usbutils i would reinstall
[02:39] <rapiscan> WD, actually, I was doing that for myself, I didn't realize anyone needed it.
[02:39] <wd> rapiscan, np
[02:39] <wd> lo
[02:39] <DaBuss> i'm about to install Edgy, does it have better support for Broadcom 4318 (AirForce One) ? or is it the same BS as we all have with Dapper?
[02:39] <wd> lol
[02:39] <digilink> I just upgraded my kernel to 2.6.15-27-k7 and I have the Nvidia driver installed. Now whenever I reboot using the new kernel X fails to start and looking through the logs says that it can't load the nvidia module. I installed the kernel using synaptic and I am running 6.06
[02:39] <viator> ok
[02:39] <viator> another question
[02:40] <root> hello
[02:40] <viator> how do i pipe the results of this
[02:40] <viator> cat word.htm |grep http://www.learningelectric.com/word2000/
[02:40] <viator> into gedit
[02:40] <viator> i tried | gedit
[02:40] <viator> at the end
[02:40] <viator> but it opens a blank document
[02:40] <DigitalNinja> wd: I've never used lm-sensors. Check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[02:40] <Tokenbad> anyone know why i get no sound in vmware....when play like flash movies....but its windows in vmware...
[02:41] <JoseStefan> viator, i thing you need "gedit -"   (dash)
[02:41] <root> ...
[02:41] <wd> DigitalNinja, going there now
[02:41] <nbx909> how do i find the address of a usb device?
[02:41] <nbx909> ie its' /dev/blah
[02:41] <babo> if I do a complete reinstall for edgy, will my files on the disk be copied over ?
[02:41] <nbx909> babo, yes
[02:41] <root> .
[02:41] <wd> any takers...........lol     http://rafb.net/paste/results/yxSLtU59.html
[02:41] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909:  try taking it out to dinner and do a little wine and dine and it shoudl tell ya
[02:41] <viator> so cat word.htm |grep http://www.learningelectric.com/word2000/ | gedit -
[02:41] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909:  what sort of device?
[02:42] <nbx909> usb ups
[02:42] <viator> or at the beginning?
[02:42] <E[m] ess> anyone? http://rafb.net/paste/results/Pc49hJ50.html
[02:42] <babo> nbx909: can't I just copy over the OS and leave the data files untouched ?
[02:42] <nbx909> i just need the name of it!
[02:42] <root> hello
[02:42] <nbx909> babo, only if you do an upgrade
[02:42] <JoseStefan> viator, i just tested the dash, didnt work, works for vi though
[02:42] <codecaine> hehe root!
[02:42] <babo> nbx909: upgrades don't work right ?
[02:42] <nbx909> babo, worked for me
[02:42] <nbx909> lol
[02:42] <bimberi> viator: redirect the output to a file, then gedit that
[02:42] <ixian_> does easyubuntu work in 6.10?
[02:42] <root> i know....
[02:42] <root> i cant change my nick
[02:42] <Xzyx987X> ok, how do I edit a text file with sudo?
[02:42] <root> lol
[02:42] <viator> ok
[02:43] <rapiscan> If anyone might be able to help: I'm pretty new to linux (so bear with me).  I'm trying to mount a remote server on my local filesystem, (basically mount an FTP connection.)  After researching, I found FuseFTP, and I am currently trying to make Fuse, when I do this I get several errors stating that some ".h" files can't be found, like types.h, ctype.h, etc.  Here is a pastebin of part of the error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29255
[02:43] <root> i'm tryin
[02:43] <AE_Wu> Can anyone tell me how to install programs with pear pc?
[02:43] <nbx909> root, /nick lololol
[02:43] <codecaine> sudo vi afile
[02:43] <ixian_> sudo gedit path/to/file
[02:43] <codecaine> sudo gedit afile
[02:43] <gevaudan> Xzyx987x: sudo gedit file &
[02:43] <lololol> SWEET
[02:43] <babo> nbx909: how do I do an upgrade then ?
[02:43] <Xzyx987X> k
[02:43] <LjL> Xzyx987X: "gksudo gedit filename" if you're in Gnome, "sudo nano filename" if you're on a console
[02:43] <Toma-> !info fuseftp
[02:43] <unixslut> ?
[02:43] <ubotu> Package fuseftp does not exist in any distro I know
[02:43] <Toma-> hmm
[02:43] <digilink> I just upgraded my kernel to 2.6.15-27-k7 and I have the Nvidia driver installed. Now whenever I reboot using the new kernel X fails to start and looking through the logs says that it can't load the nvidia module. I installed the kernel using synaptic and I am running 6.06
[02:43] <lololol> i was reading this help file that said "/SET nick lolol"
[02:43] <luisito> I'm having problems with the Standby mode. Whenever my laptop goes to sleep it never came up again, it hangs, the screen doesn't light up and it seems like it wants to wake up but nothing, so I have to reset it in the bad way. I have a pavilion ze5200.
[02:43] <lololol> but it was wrong
[02:43] <krixks> @_@ new question
[02:43] <DaBuss> i'm about to install Edgy, does it have better support for Broadcom 4318 (AirForce One) ? or is it the same BS as we all have with Dapper?
[02:44] <Nuked> Likwidoxigen, should I just restart x after installing
[02:44] <thrice`> any idea if flash 9 will be ported to ubuntu ?
[02:44] <krixks> how do I know which linux-restricted-module I need?
[02:44] <thrice`> or the betas
[02:44] <nbx909> thrice`, it is you have to do it yourself
[02:44] <Likwidoxigen> Nuked:  i'd do a full restart so that it re-loads the modules
[02:44] <aquaducter> does the ati driver work with cvi?
[02:44] <sontek> thrice`: there are some external sources that have it already
[02:44] <aquaducter> dvi rather
[02:44] <rapiscan> Toma: http://wiki.thiesen.org/page/Fuseftp  there is the linke to fuseftp,I think it's just a perl script that utilizes Fuse.  (Again, I'm new to all of this.)
[02:44] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell thrice` about flash9
[02:44] <thrice`> just extract to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins ?
[02:44] <rapiscan> I'm not very familiar with perl either, so that doesn't help.
[02:44] <AE_Wu> Can anyone tell me how to install programs with pear pc?
[02:44] <Nuked> ok Likwidoxigen ill reboot and let you know how it goes
[02:44] <Toma-> rapiscan: is this the howto youre following?
[02:45] <krixks> anyone know? how to tell what linux-restricted-module you need?
[02:45] <wweasel> How do I get rm (real media) files to play in MPlayer or VLC?  I don't want to install real player.
[02:45] <rapiscan> Tome: yes, I have been trying to, (If you go to the install link.)
[02:45] <babo> guys, how do I do an upgrade ?
[02:45] <rapiscan> Toma*
[02:45] <fluvvell> digilink, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:45] <sticazzi> wweasel, helix player
[02:45] <VividHazE> Hey can anyone help me?
[02:45] <JoseStefan> krixks, just install the correct meta pkg for your kernel, eg: linux-386
[02:45] <bderrly> bab__, sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[02:45] <DaBuss> i'm about to install Edgy, does it have better support for Broadcom 4318 (AirForce One) ? or is it the same BS as we all have with Dapper?
[02:45] <wweasel> sticazzi: I am not looking for a new player, I am looking for the proper codecs
[02:46] <krixks> JoseStefan: So I have to check my kernel version?
[02:46] <Toma-> rapiscan: im afraid youre going to have to install a bunch of perl dev packages
[02:46] <viator> well that didnt work
[02:46] <AkumAPRIME> hey. I keep breaking my xorg.conf and when I do, I have t use the live cd to mount the drive, then copy my backup xorg.conf over. Ths takes about 7 minutes each tie and is getting unbearable. How can I use the recovery console to do this?
[02:46] <viator> damn it
[02:46] <viator> whoops
[02:46] <viator> well i think it the syntax
[02:46] <VividHazE> Just installed Edgy from Live CD and tried to install nvidia-glx from Package manager but when it restarted it said the XServer wasn't working, what am i missing? I don't know how to put it back the way it was either, in Windows now :S
[02:46] <JoseStefan> krixks, the meta package handles the version, it will always give you the latest version of both image and restricted-modules
[02:46] <fluvvell> AkumAPRIME, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:46] <darkaura> yeah I made my own theme for the gnome login screen
[02:46] <krixks> JoseStefan: oh ok thanks
[02:46] <AE_Wu> Can anyone tell me how to install programs with pear pc?
[02:46] <Toma-> rapiscan: have you tried installing fuse-source?
[02:46] <rapiscan> Toma: Oh, I thought ".h" were header files written in C.   How do I know what packages I should install?
[02:47] <GUARDiAN|nb> hi
[02:47] <JoseStefan> krixks, on edgy, options are linux-386 and linux-generic
[02:47] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909:  try usb view http://www.kroah.com/linux-usb/
[02:47] <nbx909> 686 == generic
[02:47] <Toma-> rapiscan: yeh, generally, -dev packages contain headers and the like
[02:47] <rapiscan> Toma: Actually, I installed all pacakges on this line: apt-get install libnet-perl libcache-perl libterm-readkey-perl libfuse2 libfuse-dev
[02:47] <wweasel> !real
[02:47] <VividHazE> Can anyone help me?
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <nbx909> !686
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 686 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <LjL> !fishing
[02:47] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[02:47] <nbx909> !linux-686
[02:47] <ubotu> linux-686: Obsoleted by: linux-generic. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[02:47] <rapiscan> Toma: Looking for fuse-source, one moment
[02:47] <krixks> JoseStefan: what about the other linux-386 ones the ones with 2.6.17.10 and stuff on them?
[02:47] <Tokenbad> anyone know why i get no sound in vmware....when play like flash movies....but its windows in vmware...
[02:48] <Toma-> rapiscan: also, take a look at fuse-utils
[02:48] <DaBuss> hey all Ubuntu 1337's! i'm about to install Edgy, does it have better support for Broadcom 4318 (AirForce One) ? or is it the same BS as we all have with Dapper?
[02:48] <AkumAPRIME> fluvvell: that  is a bit different than what I want. I don't want to repackage, I simply want to delete the xorg.conf thats broken, then copy my xorg.confbackup as xorg.conf
[02:48] <JoseStefan> krixks, those are the actual deb files, the meta pkg will point to them
[02:48] <AkumAPRIME> can I do that from the recovery console?
[02:48] <JoseStefan> krixks, automatically
[02:48] <fluvvell> AkumAPRIME, have you ever used dpkg-reconfigure  ?
[02:48] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, will it give me the /dev/ address? i don't see that in the features
[02:48] <GUARDiAN|nb> i have a serious problem since i upgraded to edgy: daemontools won't supervise any services... i already reinstalled it, and it tells me "init should start svscan now." which doesn't happen...
[02:48] <thrice`> DaBuss, look for yourself on google; whatever is supported in the 2.6.17 kernel
[02:48] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909: i think so
[02:48] <AkumAPRIME> yes fluvvell
[02:48] <VividHazE> PLEASE someone help me? I know my problem is simple but i just can't fix it :*(
[02:49] <krixks> JoseStefan: @_@ um...so do I like install the normal 386 ones or just keep the one's with dates on them?
[02:49] <AkumAPRIME> why is my xchat running slow as @#$%
[02:49] <AkumAPRIME> ?
[02:49] <lololol> *** Warning: Linking the shared library perl.la against the
[02:49] <lololol> *** static library /usr/lib/perl/5.8/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a is not portable!
[02:49] <rapiscan> Toma: Sorry, I'm a little lost, should I just go ahead and try to install these?  Using CPAN or apt-get?
[02:49] <JoseStefan> krixks, yeah "linux-386"
[02:49] <lololol> gcc -shared  .libs/perl.o  -L/usr/local/lib /usr/lib/perl/5.8/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a -L/usr/lib/perl/5.8/CORE -lperl -lm -lpthread -lcrypt -ldl /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so  -Wl,-E -Wl,--export-dynamic -Wl,-soname -Wl,perl.so -o .libs/perl.so
[02:49] <sticazzi> AkumAPRIME, lag?
[02:49] <luisito> I'm having problems with the Standby mode. Whenever my laptop goes to sleep it never came up again, it hangs, the screen doesn't light up and it seems like it wants to wake up but nothing, so I have to reset it in the bad way. I have a pavilion ze5200.
[02:49] <lololol> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl
[02:49] <lololol> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[02:49] <lololol> make[4] : *** [perl.la]  Error 1
[02:49] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, oh good it's in the universe
[02:49] <thrice`> lololol, stop; paste at a pastebin
[02:49] <ryan-g2> problem: I have no localhost interface. Anyone know why?
[02:49] <Toma-> rapiscan: try to use apt-get as much as possible, itll save you headaches now and later
[02:49] <thrice`> !paste | lololol
[02:49] <VividHazE> Thats ok then, doesn't look like i'm getting help in here, bye :(
[02:49] <ubotu> lololol: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:49] <fluvvell> AkumAPRIME, ok. I wouldn't have considered it a re-package.  However, a simple script to copy from backup? or are you changing it by hand a lot?
[02:49] <Nuked> Likwidoxigen, it didnt do anything
[02:49] <lololol> i'm sorry
[02:50] <Jessic2> Hi, how can I install the nvidia drivers in edgy?
[02:50] <lololol> i dont know what your saying... LOL
[02:50] <AkumAPRIME> by hand.. ALOT :| omg...
[02:50] <jrib> !nvidia > Jessic2
[02:50] <lololol> pastebin?
[02:50] <JoseStefan> krixks, btw, i always keep the standard linux-386 kernel, in case i need to move my hard drive to other hardware
[02:50] <VividHazE> Jessic2, i'm trying to get that too
[02:50] <ryan-g2> I have no localhost interface. Anyone know why?
[02:50] <jrib> !nvidia > VividHazE
[02:50] <JoseStefan> krixks, you can have more than 1
[02:50] <Likwidoxigen> Nuked: who makes the printers? and they woked before yets?
[02:50] <krixks> JoseStefan: and I should uninstall the ones with dates on em? (and btw you just answered yes to a non yes or no question @_@)
[02:50] <fluvvell> AkumAPRIME, eek. ;-)
[02:50] <krixks> JoseStefan: so I'll just do both then?
[02:50] <AkumAPRIME> http://pastebin.ca/228428 here is a pastebin of my breaking dual monitor xorg.conf. When I run with this conf, I get an Xerror that says screen cannot be type non. Any ideas?
[02:50] <rapiscan> Toma: Thanks, I will try onw and let you know how it goes.
[02:51] <VividHazE> jrib: what?
[02:51] <Nuked> Likwidoxigen, yes they worked excellently on dapper. they are two hp deskjets
[02:51] <VividHazE> :)
[02:51] <Toma-> rapiscan: cool
[02:51] <JoseStefan> krixks, keep the ones with dates too, until afterwards
[02:51] <jrib> VividHazE: ubotu should have sent you some info, did you get any private emssages from him?
[02:51] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, nope
[02:51] <sjr> I'm trying to get rsync to start but with init.d nothing happens, I editted the file and set it to enable but now luck
[02:51] <fluvvell> AkumAPRIME, I'll peek. I was considering dual heads for a while...
[02:51] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, doesn't give me the address
[02:51] <Likwidoxigen> Nuked:  and they just dont' print properly?
[02:51] <Toma-> brb
[02:51] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909: the device number shoudl be the adress i.e. /dev/sda<devicenumber>
[02:51] <VividHazE> jrib: umm, in IRC here? can't see it i'll look a bit closer.
[02:51] <Nuked> Likwidoxigen, they arent even recognized
[02:51] <sidewalk> okey you guys
[02:51] <jrib> VividHazE: what client are you using?
[02:52] <Jessic2> jrib: and this works on edgy?
[02:52] <sidewalk> im having problems using apt-get
[02:52] <AE_Wu> Can anyone tell me how to install programs with pear pc?
[02:52] <Likwidoxigen> Nuked: ok let me keep poking
[02:52] <sidewalk> it says that some packages are broken
[02:52] <VividHazE> jrib: oh yea sorry saw it there now, thanks, haven't used IRC that long either
[02:52] <VividHazE> I wanna go full Linux GAH!
[02:52] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, i know but it's a UPS (battery backup) device would it be under sda?
[02:52] <pitt0071> folks, ubuntu can see mine wireless ipw2200, wep enabled, it seems that it connects but then the link quality goes to 0/100 and lots of missed beacons... any ideas?
[02:52] <Nuked> Likwidoxigen, I used kde's add printer wizard, and only samba printers are allowed
[02:52] <lololol> Will you guys look at my error and help me?
[02:52] <krixks> JoseStefan: so after I install the dateless ones, I uninstall the ones with dates?
[02:52] <jrib> Jessic2: yes
[02:52] <lololol> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29256/plain/
[02:53] <Likwidoxigen> Nuked: hpijps and hplip  perhapes those?
[02:53] <JoseStefan> krixks, there is usually no need to install the ones with dates as the meta package will take care of that
[02:53] <sidewalk> im having problem installing the nvidia driver
[02:53] <Nuked> Likwidoxigen, already tried that
[02:53] <sipher> sidewalk
[02:53] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909:  i'd assume so, it still has to access the device
[02:53] <krixks> JoseStefan: well I already have them installed. so...
[02:53] <JoseStefan> krixks, and they are actually version numbers, not dates ;)
[02:53] <nbx909> okay
[02:53] <sipher> remove the restricted drivers.
[02:53] <Likwidoxigen> Nuked: damn... do any usb device work?
[02:53] <krixks> JoseStefan: oh whatever lol
[02:53] <AkumAPRIME> sticcazzi: no when I type it doesnt show any text for lieke... seconds at a time
[02:53] <Tokenbad> please anyone use windows xp in vmware?
[02:53] <Nuked> yeah my keyboard is usb and it works
[02:53] <AkumAPRIME> causing me to typo like mad
[02:53] <sipher> sidewalk remove the restricted drivers.
[02:53] <Nuked> so is my mouse
[02:54] <jrib> lololol: you know xchat is in the repositories?
[02:54] <sidewalk> sipher: whadya mean?
[02:54] <rapiscan> Toma:  (If you're back) I installed fuse-source, and fuse-utils was already installed.  I am getting the same errors when I use make.
[02:54] <sipher> sidewalk you can simply rename then in the /lib/modules directory
[02:54] <sidewalk> btw, what is edgy?
[02:54] <lololol> repositories?
[02:54] <luisito> !ubotu macintel
[02:54] <jrib> lololol: do you know about apt?
[02:54] <lololol> i looked and didn't see it
[02:54] <JoseStefan> krixks, more info http://packages.ubuntu.com/linux-386
[02:54] <sipher> sidewalk edgy is a new version of linux.
[02:54] <Likwidoxigen> Nuked:  that's really odd, i can't think of why that would fail.
[02:54] <sipher> ubuntu
[02:54] <krixks> JoseStefan: thanks :D
[02:54] <sidewalk> 6.10 ?
[02:54] <Likwidoxigen> Nuked: sorry i couldn't help you out
[02:54] <sipher> xorg 7.1 goodness
[02:54] <AkumAPRIME> sidewalk: edgy eft is ubuntu 6.1, the newest release
[02:54] <luisito> !macintel
[02:54] <lololol> i found irssi but not xchat
[02:54] <sipher> ubuntu 7.1
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macintel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <jrib> !info xchat
[02:54] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[02:55] <sidewalk> okey, i installed 6.10 today
[02:55] <gubluntu> my question is: if im running a encoding job on my ubuntu box via ssh over putty from my windows box, will it kill the process if i kill the putty window? and if so, how do i get it to run a job and not kill it when i terminate my ssh connection
[02:55] <sidewalk> and im new to ubuntu
[02:55] <jrib> lololol: it is in universe repository, have you enabled it?
[02:55] <lololol> So it is already on my machine?
[02:55] <Nuked> Likwidoxigen, Couldn't find package hpijps
[02:55] <lololol> just maybe not installed?
[02:55] <wd> how do u save in nano
[02:55] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, it's not
[02:55] <talldave2002> Please help, i have exausted all How to's to update install Nvidia drivers in Edgy.
[02:55] <jrib> lololol: I'll send you instructions on how to enable universe, you should find it using synaptic or apt-get afterwards
[02:55] <sidewalk> my apt-get install complains when trying to install libglu1-mesa-dev
[02:55] <jrib> ubotu: tell lololol about universe
[02:55] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909: hpijs
[02:55] <rapiscan> WD: ctrl+o (atleast in my shell)
[02:55] <JoseStefan> krixks, it's like a chain of depends, and the last package in the chain is the actual deb with the version number in it. The rest are just meta packages which point in the right direction
[02:56] <sidewalk> it says broken package
[02:56] <Likwidoxigen> Nuked: hpijs
[02:56] <wubrgamer> hey guys, how do I make apache follow symbolic links ?
[02:56] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, er wrong person?
[02:56] <nbx909> lol
[02:56] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909: sorry wroong person
[02:56] <wubrgamer> it exists
[02:56] <wd> rapiscan, thanks
[02:56] <luisito> !macbook
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macbook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <lololol> UNIVERSE???
[02:56] <gubluntu> wd, "man nano"
[02:56] <wubrgamer> in the filesystem, I just can't see it in the browser, how do i make apache2 follow symlinks ?
[02:56] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909: how did you access it before?
[02:56] <luisito> can Edgy be installed in a macintel?
[02:56] <LjL> !caps | ??? lololol
[02:56] <ubotu> ??? lololol: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:56] <sipher> I hope this upgrade doesn't bomb my install.
[02:56] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, i never did
[02:56] <jrib> lololol: heh yes, all is explained in the private message from ubotu :)
[02:56] <sipher> I will lose alot of respect for ubuntu
[02:56] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, i want to try to lol
[02:56] <lololol> sorry....
[02:56] <BlueEagle> gubluntu: to run a command in the background you've got two options. If the process does not require any further input from you you can simply add an & after the command like: foo &  If the process does require further input or you want to keep the output for later review the program screen might help.
[02:56] <wweasel> How do I get rm (real media) files to play in MPlayer or VLC?  I don't want to install real player.
[02:56] <DigitalNinja> Can you update the bios on a video card?
[02:57] <Nuked> Likwidoxigen, I already tried that, no luck
[02:57] <thrice`> sipher, first of all, he's a bot; second of all, the upgrade WON'T botch your update
[02:57] <woro2006> hey
[02:57] <wweasel> (I have w32codecs)
[02:57] <Likwidoxigen> Nuked: i'm sorry... that's about all the tricks i have....
[02:57] <rapiscan> Toma:  (If you're back) I installed fuse-source, and fuse-utils was already installed.  I am getting the same errors when I use make.
[02:57] <sipher> thrice` sidewalk is a bot?
[02:57] <sipher> thrice` and I was generally speaking :p
[02:57] <woro2006> how can i configure the package to install faster
[02:57] <luisito> can Edgy be installed in a macintel?
[02:57] <thrice`> sipher, sorry, I misread ubuntu as ubotu :)
[02:57] <AkumAPRIME> can and admin point me in the driection of these three codec files I was once shown? regarding feww codecs and others...
[02:57] <Nuked> thx Likwidoxigen
[02:57] <krixks> um ok
[02:57] <sipher> woro2006 buy better hardware
[02:57] <Usopp-Sama> illovae?
[02:57] <jrib> wweasel: they should play in mplayer with w32codecs, though someone was here the other day with a server refusing to serve up media unless he got the latest "real" player
[02:57] <woro2006> sipher it's not hardware
[02:57] <krixks> JoseStefan: I'll just try installing them :D
[02:58] <woro2006> it's downloading at 20kbs
[02:58] <sipher> better internet connection?
[02:58] <BlueEagle> !codec
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <AkumAPRIME> feww==free
[02:58] <sipher> check your internet connection.
[02:58] <rapiscan> Luisito: I'm no expert, but I'm running edgy on a PPC Mac, Mac Intel shouldn't be a problem.
[02:58] <wweasel> jrib: it crashes when I try to play it in MPlayer.  VLC is willing to give me audio only.
[02:58] <slinky_> Could someone please help me, when i try to archive a directory that contains no data files, an entry for the directory structure does not appear in the archive, using Archive Manager. Is their anyway to force an entry for this empty directory?
[02:58] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell akumaprime about codecs
[02:58] <xroach> Hi
[02:58] <gubluntu> blueeagle, so if i run it with a & at the end then i can kill my ssh connection and it will still run? or will it terminate all my applications because i am "logging out"
[02:58] <jrib> wweasel: can you pastebin the terminal output?
[02:58] <AkumAPRIME> really? ubtu you showd me before. I asked about wmv embedded video
[02:58] <AkumAPRIME> ubotu silly bots...
[02:58] <Jessic2> ubotu: tell me about codecs
[02:58] <woro2006> do I need to open any ports?
[02:58] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909: *thud* oh... oh well in that case have you looked for packages to interface wtih your ups?
[02:59] <sipher> slinky_ use the command line.
[02:59] <krixks> bbl
[02:59] <xroach> I cant get my edgy live cd working:( it first loads and then comes black screen and nothing helps
[02:59] <sipher> tar -cvf dir.tar directory
[02:59] <wweasel> jrib: sorry... elaborate.
[02:59] <AE_Wu> Can anyone tell me how to install programs with pear pc?
[02:59] <AkumAPRIME> ah, thats it blue, ty
[02:59] <vidd> has anyone here PERSONALLY installed a bcm43xx wireless card successfully?
[02:59] <luisito> rapiscan, it is because they aren't PPC anymore
[02:59] <slinky_> sipher: please be more specific. alt-F2?
[02:59] <BlueEagle> gubluntu: it should not terminate just because the controlling shell terminates. I might be wrong on that account, however I do know that you can use screen to run all manner of programs in the background, disconnect and then connect at a later time to resume the work. That's how my IRC client is running amongst other things.
[02:59] <sipher> vidd do you have the drivers?
[02:59] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, yeah apcupsd it just needs the device name in the config
[02:59] <nbx909> lol
[02:59] <Jessic2> vidd: Yes, but it's a rather big pain in the ass
[02:59] <woro2006> traceroute only goes to dslrouter (192.168.1.1)
[03:00] <sipher> slinky_ no...
[03:00] <nbx909> er
[03:00] <Zoohouse> Why does ubuntu force check my hard drive every 30th mount??
[03:00] <sipher> slinky_ you can run a console on the desktop
[03:00] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, the path rather
[03:00] <jrib> wweasel: go to this page http://www.linspire.com/products_linspire_whatis.php?tab=compatibility , download the .rm file.  Then go into a terminal and type 'mplayer /path/to/file' without the quotes.  Then copy all the text it spits out and post it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (give us the link)
[03:00] <stardled> does anyone know how to make a connection over a LAN and send files [17 gigs worth] , without an external hd?
[03:00] <sipher> there should be a terminal in the system tools
[03:00] <gubluntu> i should just test a few things.. thank you, BlueEagle
[03:00] <sontek> stardled: scp?
did you follow a guide step by step?
[03:00] <rapiscan> Luisito: I'm not sure what you mean, but Ubuntu runs fine on the PowerPC architecture (such as my G5), as well as the x86 architecture (such as the intel in your mac).
[03:00] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909: hmm... well let me google real quick
[03:00] <stardled> what is scp?
[03:00] <sipher> stardled boot the live CD..
[03:00] <rapiscan> I need to head out though, bbl
 or did you finger it out on your own?
[03:00] <sipher> stardled a secure transfer protocol
[03:00] <vidd> *figure
[03:00] <xroach> e Is there some boot parametres i can try ?
[03:00] <khaije1> Zoohouse: it's an integrity checker, it's disabled in edgy
[03:00] <ianmacgregor> stardled: secure copy
[03:00] <sontek> stardled:  secure copy
[03:00] <stardled> theres a program for it on the live disc?
[03:01] <slinky_> sipher:yes, what command do i need to enter to do a full filesystem backup
[03:01] <sipher> probably slower than alot of programs.
[03:01] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, go ahead, i've been googleing for hours
[03:01] <sontek> stardled: It allows you to transfer files over ssh
[03:01] <sontek> stardled: There should be
[03:01] <sipher> slinky_ well, that depends how you want it backed up.
[03:01] <stardled> alright, do bothj PC's need to be running ubuntu?
[03:01] <sipher> you could make a bootable backup
[03:01] <BlueEagle> slinky_: that really does depend on how "full" you want the backup to be.
[03:01] <Zoohouse> khaije1: but I have edgy and it still does it.. Well, im on Kubuntu Edgy.... maybe I should ask in Kubuntu
[03:01] <gubluntu> !nx
[03:01] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[03:02] <talldave2002> Can anyone help me. I have updated to Edgy and my xserver crashes, i need nvidia drivers, i have tried 3 different ways to install, and even a clean install of Dapper, then updating to Edgy, Still I cant get my Xserver working.
[03:02] <khaije1> Zoohouse: oh really? i'm sorry, i'm on edgy and haven't seen it, also it was supposed to be disabled according to a spec i read
[03:02] <Deja__Vu> Hello!
[03:02] <sipher> talldave2002 check your xconfig...
[03:02] <slinky_> BlueEagle or sipher: I want to do a COMPLETE backup of everything in filesystem to cdrw
[03:02] <xroach> is here anyone who could help ?
[03:03] <Zoohouse> khaije1: yea it did it on my last boot up
[03:03] <talldave2002> nardis_miles
[03:03] <lololol> so how do i enable universe?
[03:03] <vidd> talldave2002  use dapper to download an install disk for edgy
[03:03] <ianmacgregor> slinky_: I don't think it will fit. But, you might be interested in partimage.
[03:03] <lololol> uncomment the sources list?
[03:03] <gubluntu> ubotu, tell startled about scp
[03:03] <khaije1> Zoohouse: just wondering, did you fresh install or dist-upgrade?
[03:03] <ianmacgregor> !partimage > slinky_
[03:03] <thrice`> stardled, man scp
[03:03] <gubluntu> ubotu, tell startled about rsync
[03:03] <talldave2002> sipher: what should i check?
[03:03] <AkumAPRIME> grr... sorry blue eagle, can you shoot me those again...
[03:03] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29258/
[03:03] <stardled> stardled*
[03:04] <BlueEagle> slinky_: dd if='/dev/hda' of='/path/to/backupfileonanotherdisk'   <= that will make a mirror image of the first IDE drive to the file /path/to/backupfileonanotherdisk Make sure that the mountpoint is bigger than the entire first disk. Then you'll need to split that file into chunks that will fit on a cd-rom drive. This is not a good way to do this tbh. :)
[03:04] <gubluntu> ubotu, tell stardled about rsync
[03:04] <talldave2002> vidd: I have tried clean install of Edgy
[03:04] <sipher> talldave2002 Heh that its configured properly...make sure to check the logs
[03:04] <nikin> the unarj package is missing from the repos
[03:04] <gubluntu> ubotu, tell stardled about scp
[03:04] <sipher> slinky_ tar -cvfp /
[03:04] <nikin> any idea what to do then?
[03:04] <wweasel> jrib: Odd, that one seems to work. Just a corrupted media file I guess. Sorry to waste your time
[03:04] <stardled> ahh. thanks
[03:04] <nikin> apt-get update
[03:04] <talldave2002> sipher, i dont really know what i am looking for in the logs
[03:04] <nikin> sry
[03:04] <sipher> I'd imagine you could rar it into seperate part.
[03:04] <sipher> talldave2002 ERROR
[03:04] <BlueEagle> slinky_: man tar   <= tar might be helpful. Not sure how good it's on spanning cdr(w) disks but it is capable of spanning tapes.
[03:04] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909: how does that help you out?
[03:04] <jrib> MTecknology: type 'which gcc'
[03:05] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, cat /proc/bus/usb/devices doesn't give me the /dev/ address
[03:05] <talios> anyone got solutions/fixes to getting vmware workstation working on edgy?  vmware-config.pl fails to compile to the modules...  ( I guess I need to wait for a vmware update thou)
[03:05] <Zoohouse> khaije1: That must be it, I upgraded
[03:05] <sipher> does edgy have berl or compiz by default?
[03:05] <jrib> wweasel: k, it could be that your file uses a later version of the real codec and maybe mplayer doesn't handle it
[03:05] <johny5> To add Reiserfs drives in the fstab, the partition type is "reiserfs", right?
[03:05] <gubluntu> what is more important for encoding, ram or cpu?
[03:05] <sipher> johny5 I think so.
[03:06] <thrice`> johny5, eh
[03:06] <gubluntu> encoding video... sorry
[03:06] <vidd> sipher im following the guide @ www.help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:06] <sipher> gubluntu both equally important.
[03:06] <BlueEagle> !backup
[03:06] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[03:06] <slinky_> how do i print a man file?
[03:06] <woro2006> sipher
[03:06] <BlueEagle> slinky_: to paper?
[03:06] <slinky_> yes
[03:06] <woro2006> how can I configure the download to go faster?
[03:06] <sipher> xman
[03:06] <sipher> woro2006 verify your internet connection.
[03:07] <BlueEagle> slinky_: Most man pages are also availible online. Google for: man tar
[03:07] <thrice`> woro2006, buy a faster connection ?
[03:07] <woro2006> sipher how?
[03:07] <gubluntu> is there anyway to configure my machine better to increase performance for encoding video? i.e. anyway to harness my gpu to help out?
[03:07] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909: did you keep reading down that page? line 73 at all?
[03:07] <ixian_> does easyubuntu work in 6.10?
[03:07] <slinky_> ok thank you
[03:07] <sipher> woro2006 speed test...call your isp.
[03:07] <woro2006> I download just fine on my windows partion and on the internet
[03:07] <jrib> !easyubuntu
[03:07] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ (currently down!); for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:07] <woro2006> sipher is it because I am behind a router?
[03:07] <crys> Zoohouse: modifiy the sixth field in /etc/fstab to alter file system checking (man fstab)
[03:07] <outRider> im trying to play dvds, so far with 0 luck. ive tried gmplayer and gxine but they both barely show anything. and to top it off, gxine froze my machine... the desktop wont respond at all except for the mouse moving ://
[03:07] <sipher> woro2006 could be mtu problems....
[03:07] <talldave2002> .xserver
[03:07] <woro2006> woro2006 what is mtu?
[03:07] <c_lisp> hi i just upgraded ubuntu when I kill a x session and try to log back in it freezes logging in
[03:07] <jessi> D:
[03:07] <rbil> gubluntu: you could look into clustering with more Linux boxes on your LAN and that would share the processing power. :-)
[03:07] <c_lisp> anybody know how to fix that?
[03:08] <sipher> outRider mplayer should work no problem.
[03:08] <slinky_> thank you for the help
[03:08] <gubluntu> is clustering difficult with ubuntu?
[03:08] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, ah
[03:08] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, i think i may have it
[03:08] <Zoohouse> crys: thanks
[03:08] <jessi> I messed up my partitions, and dont have a boot disc. how do I repartition and not lose ubuntu?
[03:08] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909: what was it??
[03:08] <stardled> is there a tutorial for how to use winscp :x
[03:08] <jessi> or is it possible?
[03:08] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, let me test
[03:08] <sipher> gubluntu it would be more difficult than using a packaged soluation such as rocks.
[03:08] <Likwidoxigen> nbx909: okie
[03:08] <sipher> it is possible.
[03:09] <outRider> sipher, it doesnt play the dvd menus at all, and when i skip past that to play the actual video it plays at .1 fps, garbled audio and vido
[03:09] <sipher> but it would definitly be more painful.
[03:09] <sipher> outRider what type of video card do you have?
[03:09] <outRider> nvidia go5200
[03:09] <jessi> Any help?
[03:10] <maxxism> well Edgy PPC is running great on my Mac Powerbook 1.25GHz.
[03:10] <JoseStefan> !ubotu
[03:10] <jessi> Why does edgy only have two workspaces?
[03:10] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, crap nope
[03:10] <sipher> outRider is it a dvd disk...or a dvd you downloaded?
[03:10] <sipher> outRider also...
[03:10] <sipher> try vlc
[03:10] <JoseStefan> jessi, you can increase that
[03:10] <BlueEagle> jessi: it does?
[03:10] <outRider> disc
[03:10] <maxxism> jessi:  you can put more on cant u?
[03:10] <sipher> try vlc
[03:10] <wastrel> jessi:  right-click on the workspace switcher and choose preferences
[03:10] <jessi> okay
[03:10] <sidewalk> can you guys help me, why does my ubuntu say that libglu1-mesa-dev is broken ?
[03:11] <jessi> I am still stuck in terminal :/
[03:11] <gubluntu> is there a ubuntu cluster how to floating around??
[03:11] <wastrel> jessi:  so what do you mean by workspaces?
[03:11] <gubluntu> !clustering
[03:11] <sipher> sidewalk whats the exact error message?
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clustering - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <Likwidoxigen> outRider: try automatix
[03:11] <gubluntu> !cluster
[03:11] <sipher> gubluntu why would you use ubuntu for clustering?
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cluster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <jessi> sidewalk, your libglu1 is broken
[03:11] <wastrel> !automatix | Likwidoxigen outRider
[03:11] <BlueEagle> !automatix
[03:11] <ubotu> Likwidoxigen outRider: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[03:11] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[03:11] <jrib> gubluntu: yes, there is one on wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:11] <Likwidoxigen> outRider: that'll set up alot of things and get you proper codecs
[03:11] <sipher> gubluntu look into rocks
[03:11] <sidewalk> jessi: how do i fix it?
[03:11] <sidewalk> the errormsg is
[03:11] <jessi> aptitude
[03:12] <gubluntu> because i want to keep my main machine as ubuntu
[03:12] <Likwidoxigen> wastrel yeah i know. what's your point?
[03:12] <jessi> or the repositories
[03:12] <rbil> gubluntu: Haven't done it with Ubuntu, but this should get you started: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7126
[03:12] <wastrel> Likwidoxigen:  the point is they don't like you recommending automatix in here.
[03:12] <sipher> eww
[03:12] <sidewalk> libglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa (= 6.5.1blabla) but 6.5.1+cvs20060824 is to be installed
[03:12] <BlueEagle> likwidoxigen: It will also destroy a lot of setups.
[03:12] <gubluntu> and setup to others to cluster with it, so i can continue to use my computer as normal but sned jobs to all three when i leave for the day
[03:12] <sidewalk> E: Broken packages
[03:12] <talldave2002> sipher i have an error .gnomerc: 2: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
[03:12] <sipher> gubluntu welcome to the nightmare.
[03:12] <effie_jayx> no automatix...
[03:12] <Likwidoxigen> wastrel:  well i think they're wrong... what's your point?
[03:12] <effie_jayx> easyubuntu :)
[03:12] <sipher> talldave2002 rm -rf .gnomerc
[03:12] <LjL> effie_jayx: reading the docs is better than either.
[03:13] <werd> im a nub with linux... can you dual boot xp and ubuntu?
[03:13] <boz> yup
[03:13] <werd> ok
[03:13] <jessi> How do I repartition my machine, and be able to get ubuntu back without a disc?
[03:13] <E[m] ess> can anyone help? i need to fix acpi so i can upgrade to edgy http://rafb.net/paste/results/Pc49hJ50.html
[03:13] <LjL> Likwidoxigen: point is, just don't recommend automatix please. use it if you like.
[03:13] <gubluntu> werd, ofcourse
[03:13] <boz> btw, hello everyone
[03:13] <sidewalk> anyone have any suggestions for me?
[03:13] <sidewalk> i just installed my bloody box here
[03:13] <boz> install windows first and then ubuntu
[03:13] <jessi> me?
[03:13] <sidewalk> haha
[03:13] <sipher> sidewalk install some software.
[03:13] <sidewalk> jessi: you know how i fix my package?
[03:14] <jessi> I dont
[03:14] <sidewalk> does anyone of you know?
[03:14] <sipher> k3b xmms gtk-gnutella
[03:14] <jessi> I know how I fix packages.
[03:14] <sidewalk> how?
[03:14] <effie_jayx> LjL I agree
[03:14] <sipher> mad command line skills.
[03:14] <sidewalk> :-)
[03:14] <wubrgamer> hey guys, how do i make all files under a certain directory readable and executable ?
[03:14] <wubrgamer> recursively ?
[03:14] <Tokenbad> anyone know why i get no sound in vmware....when play like flash movies....but its windows in vmware...
[03:14] <talldave2002> sipher. Thank you very much. I have been struggling with this for 3 days. I have lost loads of settings, cos i reformated my /
[03:14] <BlueEagle> wubrgamer: man chmod
[03:15] <jrib> wubrgamer: this is not a system directory?
[03:15] <Likwidoxigen> LjL: i'm sorry... i don't take kindly to being told what to do... i'll give them your warning next time.
[03:15] <LjL> wubrgamer: chmor -R +rx directory/*
[03:15] <JoseStefan> wubrgamer, man chmod for "-R"
[03:15] <wubrgamer> thank you !
[03:15] <sidewalk> wubrgamer: chmod -R +rx dir/
[03:15] <talldave2002> sipher: but at least i am up and running again
[03:15] <laz_> Hey guys
[03:15] <gdb> wubrgamer: find /path/to/directory -type f -print -exec chmod a+rx {} \;
[03:15] <LjL> Likwidoxigen: yes, do that at least, if you really want to mention automatix to them
[03:15] <GUARDiAN|nb> is there any documentation on how things differ between init and upstart?
[03:15] <BlueEagle> gdb: sadist. :p
[03:15] <laz_> Is the Live CD the same thing as the full cd?
[03:15] <jrib> laz_: the desktop cd is both the install and the live cd
[03:16] <wubrgamer> thank you guys
[03:16] <wubrgamer> so much
[03:16] <gdb> BlueEagle: He was asking about files! ;-)
[03:16] <sidewalk> so, you guys wanna help me out?
[03:16] <LjL> laz_: it's really called "Desktop CD", and yeah, it's the main CD
[03:16] <BlueEagle> gdb: Ahh.. you are so right. ;)
[03:16] <sidewalk> jessi: can you please tell me how to fix a broken package?
[03:16] <redphoenix1> how would i get wireless to work on intel pro wirless?
[03:16] <jessi> be right back
[03:16] <gdb> BlueEagle: I'm just being pedandtic.
[03:16] <gdb> heh
[03:16] <jessi> sidewalk
[03:16] <BlueEagle> gdb: ..and I lub you for it.
[03:16] <redphoenix1> is there a howto somewhere
[03:16] <gdb> hehe
[03:16] <redphoenix1> i have for edgy ?
[03:16] <redphoenix1> err
[03:16] <jessi> use sudo apt-get install <whatever file>
[03:16] <jessi> hehehe
[03:17] <redphoenix1> for edgy*
[03:17] <boz> you can always try ndiswrapper redphoenix
[03:17] <sidewalk> ....
[03:17] <eXcentra> sidewalk, try sudo apt-get install -f
[03:17] <jessi> back
[03:17] <sipher> chmod 666 *
[03:17] <Tokenbad> does anyone know if vmware has an irc channel for help?
[03:17] <jessi> sidewalk, have you tried google?
[03:18] <gubluntu> "#vmware
[03:18] <lbierman> I just got a external hard drive.. plugged it in, see it recognized in var/log/messages but how do I mount it or access it.. I am a n00b
[03:18] <jessi> is there a way to install links (the terminal browser) without aptitude, it keeps telling me it does not have super cow
[03:18] <jessi> also, is there no help for me?
[03:18] <lololol> ok.. for somereason i cant view /etc/apt/sources.list... there is a x in the top right corner
[03:18] <lololol> i have tried chmod
[03:18] <laz_> How do I watch the Borat movie in Ubuntu?
[03:19] <ianmacgregor> jessi: That usually means you messed up the install command, what install command did you use?
[03:19] <gubluntu> lololol, sudo
[03:19] <jessi> gksu "update -c -d"
[03:19] <jessi> I partitioned funny on accident
[03:19] <ixian_> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:19] <sbalneav> laz_: Go down to the movie theatre and see it.
[03:19] <lbierman> I just got a external hard drive.. plugged it in, see it recognized in var/log/messages but how do I mount it or access it.. I am a n00b
[03:19] <eXcentra> lbierman, i'm not sure but try looking in the /media directory
[03:19] <ianmacgregor> ixian_: That's not a good idea, it's best to use: gksudo gedit
[03:19] <jessi> So I dont have enough room for ubuntu edgy to create the funny temp directories it normally does.
[03:20] <lbierman> I looked in media dont see
[03:20] <laz_> I thought Ubuntu was powerful enough to show Borat The Movie
[03:20] <ixian_> what's the difference?
[03:20] <gubluntu> ubotu, tell lbierman about patience
[03:20] <killown> I compile  kernel , when I try to boot it return Fatal: /lib/modules/2.6.7/modules.dep.tmp: read only.
[03:20] <killown> anyone can help -me?
[03:20] <eXcentra> lbierman, :/
[03:20] <jessi> laz, use VLC to play it.
[03:20] <gubluntu> vlc is the greatest!
[03:20] <ianmacgregor> ixian_: Lots: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[03:20] <laz_> k thankz
[03:20] <jessi> vlc ftw
[03:20] <DaBuss> I'm trying to install edgy and it says "no root filesystem" despite the fact that i have the correct mount point odf "/" for my install partition
[03:20] <nbx909> Likwidoxigen, what are the ussual dev addresses for varous usb devices
[03:20] <lbierman> yeah I am really stuck... so confused =(
[03:20] <gubluntu> ubotu, tell laz_ about videolan
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about videolan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <gubluntu> ubotu, tell laz_ about vlc
[03:21] <Deja__Vu> ubuntu or freebsd
[03:21] <gubluntu> lbierman, try re-partitioning it
[03:21] <gubluntu> if its brand new
[03:21] <sipher> Deja__Vu if you are new in the *nix arena
[03:21] <sipher> Deja__Vu ubuntu
[03:21] <sipher> freebsd is solid on the server side.
[03:22] <Deja__Vu> i have tried ubuntu and pc-bsd...
[03:22] <Tokenbad> anyone know why i get no sound in vmware....when play like flash movies....but its windows in vmware...
[03:22] <Deja__Vu> ports and make install clean looks cool
[03:22] <jessi> :/
[03:22] <lololol> i tried editig sources.list using gksudo gedit and it said it was readonly... ???
[03:22] <sipher> Tokenbad vmmon...and make sure the device is detected before you boot the vm.
[03:22] <Deja__Vu> but ubuntu is way easier
[03:22] <sipher> Tokenbad also...you may need to install drivers in the vm.
[03:23] <hmm> how do I upgrade my distro ?
[03:23] <Deja__Vu> i will stick with ubuntu on the notebook
[03:23] <Tokenbad> sipher, you lost me on the vmmon
[03:23] <Tokenbad> and sound works in ubuntu...
[03:23] <Deja__Vu> and perhaps bsd on the desktop
[03:23] <sipher> Tokenbad vmmon is a kernel module for vmware to work properlly.
[03:24] <boz> hmm sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:24] <jessi> I am still having troubles.
[03:24] <ephesius> not ubuntu related but does anyone know how to raise a number by  a power in c++?
[03:24] <jessi> ^X
[03:24] <jessi> win
[03:24] <hmm> boz: all 3 of them ?
[03:24] <hmm> or just choose one ...?
[03:24] <boz> yup, in the given order
[03:24] <hmm> thanks
[03:24] <boz> first do sudo apt-get update
[03:24] <boz> np
[03:25] <DonL> Hi everyone. An interesting afternoon for me upgrading, but good results in the end
[03:25] <laz_> How Do I still Money in Ubuntu?
[03:25] <morfic> ephesius: pow()
[03:25] <morfic> ephesius: in <cmath>
[03:25] <gubluntu> 7
[03:25] <boz> laz_ still money?
[03:25] <jessi> It says "mkdtemp: private socket dir: no space left on device"
[03:25] <sipher> I'm afraid. :( less than 5 minutes left on the edgy download.
[03:25] <gubluntu> oops
[03:25] <laz_> steal
[03:25] <nikin> hy laz
[03:25] <sipher> I will be REALLY mad if it breaks my setup.
[03:25] <sipher> I'll stop recmomending ubuntu
[03:25] <jessi> hehe
[03:26] <wastrel> sipher:  i hope you backed up first.
[03:26] <sipher> wastrel
[03:26] <sipher> =/
[03:26] <sipher> comforting.
[03:26] <boz> laz_ i believe stealing is not part of the Ubuntu philosophy :\
[03:26] <jessi> I am getting pretty upset with ubuntu. I have spent two days in only terminal.
[03:26] <wastrel> i've never had a dist-upgrade go right.
[03:26] <morfic> sipher: what is your setup? if you install from CD there shouldn't be much trouble, i had some issues with ndiswrapper on here, but hey, i am online wirelessly, aren't i? ;)
[03:26] <sipher> jessi whats the problem?
[03:26] <mrkris> anything break with latest ubuntu regarding Nvidia or did i just forget to install a specific package :o
[03:26] <wastrel> jessi:  you messed up your partitioning, how is that ubuntu's fault?  :] 
[03:26] <sipher> morfic I'm uprading a dapper install.
[03:27] <noelferreira> hi people
[03:27] <noelferreira> need help with rt61 driver
[03:27] <DonL> jessi, I go with the official stuff and I rarely have too much problem
[03:27] <InnerF|RE> hrm
[03:27] <sipher> mrkris it's probably related to a bad xorg.conf
[03:27] <noelferreira> i found my essid but i can't get ip
[03:27] <morfic> sipher: mind you i have run other linuxes before and am new to (k)ubuntu, but from looks of lurking in this channel, upgraders don't seem to have as much joy as i do with edgy
[03:28] <jessi> DonL, I partitioned incorrectly.
[03:28] <Tokenbad> sipher, it works fine except for the sound...
[03:28] <laz_> Anyone know how to get packet injection working with bcm43xx wifi cards?
[03:28] <sipher> morfic Ya I've heard many users are having problems.
[03:28] <boz> jessi i made one foul-up in the souces.list file once and that screwed up everything after an update
[03:28] <gubluntu> what are some benefits of edgy over dapper?
[03:28] <DonL> jessi, I upgraded from Dapper
[03:28] <sipher> But I want xorg 7.1
[03:28] <sipher> Heheh
[03:28] <noelferreira> any help wiht rt61 wireless driver?
[03:28] <jessi> :/
[03:28] <jessi> That does not help me
[03:28] <morfic> 7.1 is worth it, especially if you use EXA instead of XAA
[03:28] <sipher> jessi pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:28] <MarcN> gubluntu: newer versions of apps
[03:29] <sipher> EXA?
[03:29] <boz> sorry, i screwed up two different conversations :(
[03:29] <sipher> XAA?
[03:29] <sipher> I want direct rendering.
[03:29] <DonL> jessi, If you partitioned incorrectly, you did that right from the start. Hard to fix that than starting again
[03:29] <Bacon5o> anyone know how to do a /fixmbr & /fixboot without a bootable CD
[03:29] <sipher> Xgl just isn't cutting it.
[03:29] <d123> hi guys
[03:29] <jessi> DonL, that is what I suggested I do, but I dont have a disc to boot from
[03:29] <sipher> Bacon5o there's no "fixmbr" with ubuntu.
[03:29] <maxxism> anyone know if WPA2 is supported in Edgy????
[03:29] <morfic> sipher: XAA is old acceleration architecture, EXA is the new one, font rendering is so much better/faster
[03:29] <vanden> Hey. Fairly new to linux. Just went dapper to eft. My deskbar worked for a while; now it doesn't.
[03:29] <vanden> Now, on boot and when I try to add the deskbar, I get an alert pop-up that says: "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:Deskbar_Applet"
[03:30] <vanden> A google gave <https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/1996> and a few others. All made it sound as though this was fixed in eft. I'm stumped. Ideas?
[03:30] <Logix> hi, when i use Gnome LISTEN, i cannot get lyrics to any songs- only get "server did not respond" anybody can help?
[03:30] <noelferreira> anyone have rt61 wireless driver working on edgy?
[03:30] <Alpha3> Bacon5o .. u still here?
[03:30] <khaije1> does anyone here know what the neverwnter nights channel is called.... I've been there before but can't remember.....
[03:30] <slop|lap> can ssh be used to log into any computer with an IP address that you have a login to, or does it have to be a computer on the same network as you?
[03:30] <Bacon5o> sipher, I dont want ubuntu, it doesn't support my internet, thus I cannot use it
[03:30] <morfic> sipher: my ati has no aiglx support so i can't speak for how aiglx/beryl is
[03:30] <Bacon5o> Alpha, yes
[03:30] <Alpha3> pm
[03:30] <DonL> jessi, can you get a friend to burn you a dapper disc?
[03:30] <GUARDiAN|nb> how do i migrate an inittab-line of "SV:123456:respawn:<command>" to upstart?
[03:30] <Bacon5o> lemme authorize first
[03:30] <jessi> Nope
[03:30] <thrice`> Bacon5o, lol...that's redicuolous
[03:30] <maxxism> slop any computer with an IP and an open connection
[03:30] <morfic> Bacon5o: your internet is different from mine? damn bush and his internets!
[03:30] <laz_> slop|lap: any
[03:30] <slop|lap> laz_, thx
[03:30] <jessi> Is there no way to get it from an ftp if I boot from bsd or something?
[03:30] <thrice`> ubuntu is based on LINUX; therefore, anything another distro can do, so can ubuntu
[03:31] <Alpha3> jessi - ftp <-- type it
[03:31] <maxxism> WPA2 anyone?????
[03:31] <morfic> thrice`: amen
[03:31] <Bacon5o> alpha, join #bacon
[03:31] <sipher> morfic ahh yes...I already have composition enabled.
[03:31] <sipher> morfic I have Xgl + beryl right now..
[03:31] <Bacon5o> morfic, my internet is different...why you ask?
[03:31] <sipher> but I want direct rendering.
[03:31] <d123> anyone has Cinelerra installed with ubuntu drapper?
[03:31] <morfic> sipher: EXA does help composite too, yeah
[03:32] <Logix> can anybody help me with Lyrics problem with Gnome LISTEN?
[03:32] <morfic> Bacon5o: your possesive "my" on the internet
[03:32] <sipher> 1 minute remaining.
[03:32] <outRider> goddamn it vlc wont play it either
[03:32] <sipher> outRider apt-cache search codec
[03:32] <maxxism> outRider what are you trying to play?
[03:32] <Alpha3> outRider - play what?
[03:32] <Bacon5o> morfic, I use a wireless accesspoint that plugs into my USB which then goes into my motherboard
[03:32] <sarixe> my sound system is acting up... input keeps doing weird things
[03:32] <maddog39> hello can any1 help me here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288380
[03:32] <morfic> sipher: here is where a seperate /home partition wins, you can install from scratch w/o losing data for the win
[03:32] <Bacon5o> apparently ubuntu is unable to recognize this
[03:32] <jessi> Alpha3, can I install ubuntu with that?
[03:32] <sarixe> when i start up, the microphone is fine
[03:33] <sarixe> and i use skype
[03:33] <sarixe> and it's fine
[03:33] <sarixe> for about 5 minutes
[03:33] <Alpha3> jessi - no
[03:33] <sipher> morfic I do have alot of data mounted on a seperate partition...
[03:33] <sipher> also...
[03:33] <outRider> maxxism, Alpha3 a dvd, kingdom of heaven
[03:33] <jessi> :/
[03:33] <sipher> this is linux.
[03:33] <Jessic2> so I installed the nvidia drivers using the method
[03:33] <sipher> I can fix it :)
[03:33] <Jessic2> that was provided
[03:33] <sarixe> then my microphone stops doing anything
[03:33] <noelferreira> rt61 wireless driver working?
[03:33] <sarixe> even sending data to the computer
[03:33] <morfic> i don't get the concept of wireless access points that plug into usb ports, i mean, doesn't that make it wired instead of wireless?
[03:33] <Alpha3> outRider -
[03:33] <sarixe> very strange
[03:33] <Alpha3> outRider - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:33] <maxxism> outRider.  it should work if you have all codecs installed
[03:33] <sipher> morfic hah
[03:33] <Jessic2> so I installed the nvidia drivers using the method that was provided by ubotu BUT now X won't start. complains of a version mismatch and an API error? How do I fix?
[03:33] <sarixe> it seems that digitally, it's getting disconnected or something
[03:34] <morfic> sipher: i usually pay dearly for my single / setups
[03:34] <Bacon5o> morfic its like a wireless NIC card but itgoes outside my PC
[03:34] <outRider> i dont have win32 codecs installed, but ive installed mplayer, gxine, and vlc
[03:34] <sarixe> yet when i turn on the output volume for it, it puts the sound through.
[03:34] <Bacon5o> its little box
[03:34] <Blacken> Does anyone know how to configure the ATI drivers to retain the video aspect ratio when the resolution changes? i.e. I run a 1280x800 screen, but don't want it to stretch out weirdly when running in 1024x768.
[03:34] <vanden> Bump: On boot and when I try to add the deskbar to a fresh eft install, I get an alert pop-up that says: "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:Deskbar_Applet". I googled to no avail. Ideas?
[03:34] <sarixe> any help?
[03:34] <stardled_> #ubuntu-xgl
[03:34] <maddog39> can anyone help me with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288380
[03:34] <sipher> morfic data is almost always reconverable...unless the filesystem is punked.
[03:34] <maxxism> OutRider you dont need win32 codecs for DVD
[03:34] <thrice`> Blacken, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:34] <Bacon5o> morfic, I'm missing the correct word to call this recepter...
[03:34] <Blacken> thrice`: Yes, I know that...I'm just trying to find out what to change.
[03:34] <twb> When typing either in X in the edgy livecd or in the installed system, the keyboard repeat rate seems very fast.  What could be causing this?
[03:34] <morfic> sipher: what got to me is edgy would not install onto a logical partition, which is where i have my /, so i needed to junk the cd and burn me the alternate which installed fine, and it even installed/used a for months unused gentoo grub splash
[03:35] <Blacken> Google has not helped much.
[03:35] <gubluntu> outRider, use easyubuntu to get your codecs
[03:35] <eXcentra> outRider, do you have libdvdcss2?
[03:35] <gubluntu> ubotu, tell outrider about codecs
[03:35] <gubluntu> ubotu, tell outrider about easyubuntu
[03:35] <maxxism> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper   check the how to on dvd playback
[03:35] <morfic> Bacon5o: oh, a wireless 'nic' ? what type, and which driver do you need, if worse comes to worse, you can always use ndiswrapper
[03:35] <sipher> morfic Heh it seems t be going okay...the packages are going in fine.
[03:35] <sipher> morfice I'm watching the upgrade right now.
[03:35] <maxxism> dont use easyubuntu.  it broke my dapper system.  manually is much better
[03:36] <sipher> I know my video might be a problem..
[03:36] <Tokenbad> sipher, ok...just added an audio device...and it says can't use /dev/dsp cause in use or something...
[03:36] <gubluntu> dont use easyubuntu
[03:36] <sipher> I have the nvidia beta drivers installed.
[03:36] <thrice`> easyubuntu is just a wrapper...it's the same thing
[03:36] <sidewalk> damn, ill just have to reinstall my box tomorrow
[03:36] <morfic> sipher: yoru gfx is?
[03:36] <sidewalk> ghaaa
[03:36] <Bacon5o> morfic its a wireless adapter that picked up the wireless signal then it goes through into my USB port and gives me internet
[03:36] <killown> during boot it occur FATAL: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/modules.dep.temp for writing: no such file or directory
[03:36] <killown> why?
[03:36] <sipher> Tokenbad ya...your ubuntu install ...a program already has a lock on dsp
[03:36] <Bacon5o> nothing works for it
[03:36] <sipher> killown mkdir /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/modules.dep.temp
[03:36] <morfic> ahh, the latest support aiglx and do some sexy direct rendering, guy on a sourcemage gnu/linux install does that whole 3d desktops rotating thing like in the video you might have seen
[03:37] <sipher> chmod 700 /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/modules.dep.temp
[03:37] <killown> sipher thanks friend
[03:37] <noelferreira> rt61 anyone?
[03:37] <Tokenbad> sipher, any idea how to fix that?
[03:37] <jessi> :'(
[03:37] <sipher> Tokenbad close any applications that might be using the device when you start the vm.
[03:37] <DonL> I was ready to ask for help on my upgrade to Edgy today after it Eth0 seemed not to work. After about an hour, I decided to use my wife's XP to go on line to see if anyone else had that problem. I was really surprised to find out the wind had put our our internet connection and the connection was off to our house.
[03:38] <sipher> DonL thats a good thing for ubuntu then :)
[03:38] <Tokenbad> all I have open is xchat and terminals...and firefox
[03:38] <maxxism> I am still looking for any Wireless WPA2 info.  I just need to know if Edgy supports it or not...........................
[03:38] <jessi> Is there a way to change which partition my ubuntu uses for stuff with terminal?
[03:38] <sipher> Tokenbad you can use lsof to track it down...
[03:38] <DonL> Yup. I've been a ubuntu user from the start, and always come back. Even after trying some of the fancy ones.
[03:38] <stardled_> can anyone tell me if these specs will work with aiglx/beryl: pentium 4, 1gig ram, intel gfx media accellerator 950 [onboard] 
[03:38] <gubluntu> jessi, what kinda stuff?
[03:38] <Tokenbad> ok sipher lost me again
[03:39] <jessi> mabye I should just type the error into here?
[03:39] <sipher> lsof will list which program is using which file... / port / device.
[03:39] <gubluntu> ubotu tell jessi about pastebin
[03:39] <stardled_> anyone? :o
[03:39] <jessi> pastebin?
[03:40] <gubluntu> for the error, if its large
[03:40] <Tokenbad> sipher, so to check for sound I would do lsof /dev/dsp?
[03:40] <sipher> no
[03:40] <sipher> lsof
[03:40] <DonL> stardled_, sorry, can't help you with that
[03:40] <sipher> and look at what program is using /dev/dsp
[03:40] <stardled_> hmph.
[03:40] <gubluntu> ubotu, tell stardled about aiglx
[03:40] <jessi> well, I dont know if it will work. It will boot the login window, but when I try to log in it messes up.
[03:40] <Tokenbad> it list alot of stuff
[03:40] <gubluntu> ubotu, tell stardled_ about aiglx
[03:41] <Tompu> gubluntu: does that get ubotu to /msg ?
[03:41] <gubluntu> ypu
[03:41] <Tompu> ubotu tell Tompu about ubotu
[03:41] <Tompu> !ubotu
[03:41] <greenman> help please.  I installed the server version with LAMP
[03:41] <greenman> i need to add imagettftext support
[03:41] <Alpha3> maddog39 - i posted a reply
[03:42] <greenman> how do I do this?
[03:42] <Tompu> !pastebin | Tompu
[03:42] <ubotu> Tompu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:42] <noelferreira> anyone with rt61 driver?
[03:42] <jessi> is there a paste hotkey for irssi?
[03:42] <morfic> i want to include the dsdt.hex i used to build into the kernel into the initramfs, since that is all that menuconfig offered, WHERE would i have to place the dsdt.hex for it to be included into initramfs?
[03:42] <Tokenbad> sipher, did lsof > lsof.txt and then did a search for dsp..and it don't even find it in that list
[03:42] <gubluntu> jessi, in terminal shift+Insert pastes
[03:42] <morfic> jessi: try running irssi in screen, with ctrl-[ and ctrl-]  you can easily copy and paste in screen
[03:43] <sipher> is there anything in the file?
[03:44] <Tokenbad> yes...alot of stuff
[03:44] <noelferreira> rtg1?
[03:44] <noelferreira> rt61?
[03:44] <sipher> before you boot the vm .. does it show your sound device?
[03:44] <noelferreira> working?
[03:44] <greenman> help please. I installed the server version with LAMP.  i need to add imagettftext support.  how do I do this?
[03:44] <Rav|strangler> how do I enter command line options on my game icon
[03:45] <Tokenbad> sipher, not sure what you mean
[03:45] <Rav|strangler> when I goto the prop. I dont see it
[03:45] <sipher> when you have vmware open
[03:45] <jessi> 
[03:45] <jessi> oops
[03:45] <sipher> it list all you hardware before you power up the vm
[03:45] <killown> FATAL: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/modules.dep.temp for writing: no such file or directory That folder does exist    , but it directory exist I make it
[03:45] <Tokenbad> says audio device yes
[03:46] <jessi> I have the file with the error in nano, how do I get it from nano to irssi? D:
[03:46] <sipher> hrm
[03:46] <jessi> Sorry to be such a pain
[03:46] <baconbacon> greenman: try to install imagemagick package
[03:46] <Alpha3> jessi - paste to pastebin
[03:46] <Tokenbad> says using dev/dsp
[03:46] <Blacken> Anyone tried to play UT2004 on Edgy?
[03:46] <esaym> i love linux with all my heart and i love you
[03:46] <greenman> baconbacon: okay.  I'll try that.
[03:46] <jessi> I dont know how :/
[03:46] <Tokenbad> or can change it to auto detect and it still says /dev/dsp
[03:46] <jessi> !pastbin
[03:46] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys I followed the wiki for dapper on how to install ati video card drivers but when I do "fglrxinfo" i get nothing but errors
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <sipher> Blacken not sure if it supported under wine or cedega
[03:47] <mrkris> sipher: unfortunately I still can't get Xorg working with nvidia :-\
[03:47] <Tompu> !pastebin | jessi
[03:47] <ubotu> jessi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> and my screensaver behaves alot worse than before
[03:47] <sipher> mrkris make sure modprobe knows about the drivers.. the new ones
[03:48] <mrkris> it does
[03:48] <mrkris> i get a Signal 11
[03:48] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, can you pastebin the errors?
[03:48] <greenman> baconbacon: that didn't work
[03:48] <sipher> eww not good.
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> slop|lap: yep
[03:48] <sipher> mrkris which driver are you installing?
[03:48] <sipher> and...
[03:48] <sipher> did you recently upgrade to edgy?
[03:48] <sipher> if you upgraded from dapped to edgy...and installed the drivers on dapper
[03:48] <mrkris> yup
[03:48] <sipher> you will need to reinstall
[03:48] <mrkris> oh
[03:49] <mrkris> no i reinstalled
[03:49] <mrkris> i did a complete reinstall
[03:49] <sipher> from what I've seen...
[03:49] <jessi> okay, then how do I cut or copy from nano?
[03:49] <mrkris> http://pastebin.ca/228474
[03:49] <sipher> edgy installs a new kernel.
[03:49] <greenman> help please. I installed the server version with LAMP.  i need to add imagettftext support.  how do I do this?
[03:49] <jessi> ^K is being awkward
[03:49] <Paddy_EIRE> slop|lap: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29265/
[03:50] <baconbacon> greenman: you would also need php(4 or 5)-gd, and php(4 or 5)-imagick
[03:51] <greenman> baconbacon: okay i'll look for those.
[03:51] <Green_Mage> Hello, I'm trying to install a Lan driver, but when I try to run an ./install.sh in the terminal, I get a permission denied error.  What's the problem?
[03:51] <elw> touch /dev/myself
[03:51] <maxxism> Green did you sudo it?
[03:52] <Tompu> jessi: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tools/16545.html will let you dump to pastebin straight from console
[03:52] <jessi> okay
[03:52] <maxxism> Green_Mage: sudo it
[03:52] <NewLayer> Does anyone know how to improve Internet speed? Optimization using Ubuntu
[03:52] <greenman> baconbacon: it didn't find a php5-imagick
[03:53] <Tompu> jessi: http://tinyurl.com/ym9g6q might be easier to type :)
[03:53] <baconbacon> !info php5-imagick dapper
[03:53] <ubotu> Package php5-imagick does not exist in dapper
[03:53] <Green_Mage> what's the command to sudo it? I tried sudo ./install.sh, but I got an error back
[03:53] <linux_learner> any1 use autopackage?
[03:53] <baconbacon> !info php5-imagick edgy
[03:53] <ubotu> php5-imagick: ImageMagick module for php5. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.11+1-3 (edgy), package size 79 kB, installed size 480 kB
[03:53] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, download this : http://www.ground-impact.com/libGL.so.1.2     --- and then backup /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 --- and then replace /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 with the one you downloaded.
[03:53] <baconbacon> hmm
[03:53] <greenman> baconbacon: i see, i'm on dapper
[03:54] <elw> how do you contribute code to ubuntu?
[03:54] <killown> I have one card network sundance encore , I cannot load driver
[03:54] <greenman> baconbacon: i'll try putting the gd in there and see if that works
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> slop|lap: ok whats a good way to backup this file then replace it in the event that it does not work
[03:54] <Jessic2> okay, so I got the nvidia driver install but now I get things like this: "freeglut (billard-gl): OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'" -- how can I fix
[03:54] <linux_learner> [PUPPETS] Gonzo, lol i didnt know you hung out here as well
[03:54] <elw> does anyone have that ubuntu certification?
[03:55] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, sudo cp /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2_backup
[03:55] <Lou_NJ> Hello!
[03:55] <Tompu> Jessic2: have you enabled glx in your xorg.conf ?
[03:55] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, then sudo rm /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[03:55] <sanmarcos> VDUB
[03:55] <Jessic2> Tompu: I'm fairly certain. Let me check.
[03:55] <sanmarcos> german engineering, in da house
[03:55] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, then copy the one you downloaded to /usr/lib/
[03:55] <Green_Mage> maxxism: What's the command to sudo it? I tried "sudo ./install.sh" already, but I only got an error back
[03:56] <Jessic2> Tompu: Yes
[03:56] <greenman> baconbacon: that did it.  Thanks.
[03:56] <Jessic2> root@tuxpower:~# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep glx
[03:56] <Jessic2>     Load           "glx"
[03:56] <Paddy_EIRE> slop|lap: that link leads to a big page of jibberish chars
[03:56] <VividHazE> Hey everyone i'm back again, nvidia-glx install didn't work, even after following the detailed instructions :( did you get it working Jessic2?
[03:56] <babo> ok, so I've done a apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade and then restarted my system. I'm still looking at a dapper system though ...
[03:56] <babo> wtf happened to edgy ?
[03:56] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell babo about upgrade
[03:56] <Jessic2> VividHazE: I got nvidia going, but glx support is broken
[03:56] <Tompu> Jessic2: what does this give you: glxinfo | grep direct
[03:57] <VividHazE> checking now Tompu
[03:57] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, download it from the link here (just right-click/save) : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185033  there's a link to the file in that thread
[03:57] <elw> hey i need a l33t unix nickname
[03:57] <Jessic2> Tompu: a lot of this:
[03:57] <Jessic2> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[03:57] <Jessic2> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:57] <baconbacon> 31\/\/
[03:57] <VividHazE> ok to paste in here?
[03:57] <maxxism> elw  how about "fsck you"
[03:57] <Tompu> Jessic2: did you include the | grep direct
[03:57] <VividHazE> its about 8 lines
[03:57] <Jessic2> yes
[03:57] <sipher> elw flip through an old assembler book...and pick something.
[03:57] <VividHazE> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:57] <VividHazE> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:57] <VividHazE> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:57] <VividHazE> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[03:57] <VividHazE> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:57] <Tompu> VividHazE: 8 lines is too much. use pastebin
[03:57] <VividHazE> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:58] <VividHazE> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:58] <JoseStefan> !paste > VividHazE
[03:58] <Jessic2> Tompu: See what Vividhaze is pasting?
[03:58] <Jessic2> That's what I'm getting.
[03:58] <VividHazE> sorry about that :(
[03:58] <JoseStefan> !paste | VividHazE
[03:58] <ubotu> VividHazE: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:58] <baconbacon> 3 lines MAX vivid
[03:59] <linux_learner> i've tried autopackage, and it works well
[03:59] <Jessic2> VividHazE: you and I are getting the same error
[03:59] <Alpha3> vividhaze - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1686154#post1686154 <-- read bottom
[03:59] <Tompu> Jessic2: if you really did enable glx in  your xorg.conf, you'll need to look through your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why it failed
[03:59] <Alpha3> Jessic2 - read bottom as well
[03:59] <JoseStefan> Jessic2, nvidia?
[03:59] <Jessic2> JoseStefan: yes
[03:59] <linux_learner> i have tested every major packager, and autopackage is easy and works well
[03:59] <Jessic2> Alpha3: wait one
[03:59] <jessi> Tompu, I am at the site, but am a bit lost :/
[03:59] <VividHazE> ok Tompu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29270/
[03:59] <JoseStefan> Jessic2, did you try a reinstall of nvidia-glx, i think you should also reinstall related mesa libraries
[04:00] <VividHazE> can you help at all? When I restarted after following the instructions it said it failed on me, luckily i wrote down the cp command to use my backup thingie
[04:00] <Jessic2> JoseStefan: I reinstalled nvidia-glx and libmesa and did an x restart
[04:00] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, get it?
[04:00] <LjL> baconbacon, no, the "three lines max" advice is wrong... perhaps when the channel is quiet (rarely), you can make an innocent 3-lines paste, but in principle, anything that's not on one line goes to the pastebin. imagine three-liners by 100 people when the channel is very busy
[04:00] <Jessic2> still fscking broken
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah just putting it in that folder
[04:00] <Alpha3> jessic2 - tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep ##
[04:00] <linux_learner> yo the_bdquick
[04:00] <Alpha3> jessic2 - tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE **
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> slop|lap: yeah just putting it in that folder
[04:00] <linux_learner> how r u man
[04:01] <Jessic2> !paste > Jessic2
[04:01] <the_bdquick> i'm fine
[04:01] <linux_learner> cool
[04:01] <pengo> hie everyone
[04:01] <elw> how do you send a private message? i thought it was /msg name message, i am out of practice on this irc junk
[04:01] <maxxism> high?
[04:01] <Tompu> jessi: wget http://tinyurl.com/yh8hra
[04:01] <LjL> elw: yes, it is, but you need to be registered
[04:01] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell elw about register
[04:01] <pengo> i have a problem with my
[04:01] <pengo> ubuntu
[04:01] <jessi> I got the paste2paste.pl or whatever
[04:02] <pengo> can s.o help me??
[04:02] <maxxism> is there any sort of GUI, even ANSI or web based on Ubuntu server???
[04:02] <VividHazE> Tompu did you get a look at my output of that glxinfo | grep direct command?
[04:02] <Alpha3> pengo - whats ur problem ?
[04:02] <pengo> ok
[04:02] <slop|lap> !ask > pengo
[04:02] <jessi> Tompu, I will type it at you with /msg
[04:02] <pengo> my problem
[04:02] <Alpha3> maxxism - not by default
[04:02] <Jessic2> Alpha3: that log won't show the specific error because I fucked with something prior to reverting my xorg conf
[04:02] <pengo> i couldnt use windows network
[04:02] <Tompu> jessi: okay
[04:02] <maxxism> Alpha3 any suggestions?
[04:02] <Tompu> VividHazE: looking now
[04:02] <pengo> samba
[04:03] <pengo> give me a alert
[04:03] <pengo> and
[04:03] <babo> what's wrong with packages.freecontrib.org ?
[04:03] <pengo> i couldnt connect
[04:03] <VividHazE> Tompu: thanks, does it matter it says I have "default monitor" and not my Hansol 2100A? I can't find where to change my monitor.
[04:03] <ianmacgregor> babo: It closed down
[04:03] <Paddy_EIRE> slop|lap: that file is on my desktop how do I put it in /usr/lib it wont let me
[04:03] <JoseStefan> !plf > babo
[04:03] <linux_learner> ya know comparing apt to autopackage, autopackage takes care of all the deps due to the way it's packaged
[04:03] <ianmacgregor> !plf > ianmacgregor
[04:03] <Paddy_EIRE> slop|lap: gksudo nautilus??
[04:03] <Tompu> VividHazE: default monitor wont break glx. pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:03] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, do it in terminal
[04:03] <linux_learner> but then comparing autopackage to apt is like comparing apples to oranges
[04:03] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, it'll be easier that way
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> slop|lap: how
[04:04] <LjL> !language | Jessic2
[04:04] <ubotu> Jessic2: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:04] <elw> anyone know if there is a custom kernel guide for edgy?
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> slop|lap: mv command
[04:04] <rapiscan> If anyone might be able to help: I'm pretty new to linux (so bear with me).  I'm trying to mount a remote server on my local filesystem, (basically mount an FTP connection.)  After researching, I found FuseFTP, and I am currently trying to make Fuse, when I do this I get several errors stating that some ".h" files can't be found, like types.h, ctype.h, etc.  Here is a pastebin of part of the error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29255
[04:04] <sontek> elw: There are lots of them on the forums
[04:04] <linux_learner> autopackage isnt meant for core packages, but for things like firefox and gaim, it works fine
[04:04] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, sudo cp /home/yourusername/Desktop/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/
[04:04] <inuyasharenegade> .WB (Jell-O-Fishi) WB. - <@Jell-O-Fishi> chu <Akuyazi> ahh
[04:04] <danilocesar> Someone know if exist a way to install Anjuta1.2.4 on Ubuntu Edgy without need to compile it from source?
[04:04] <LjL> inuyasharenegade: what are you doing?
[04:05] <VividHazE> Tompu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29272/
[04:05] <ianmacgregor> LjL: Being a pest, lol
[04:05] <VividHazE> Tompu: After i reverted I changed the nv to nvidia manually.
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> slop|lap: done
[04:05] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, do fglrxinfo
[04:05] <baconbacon> !build-essential > rapiscan
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> slop|lap: do I need to reboot
[04:06] <rapiscan> !build-essential
[04:06] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:06] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, no
[04:06] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, fglrxinfo
[04:06] <JoseStefan> !info anjuta edgy
[04:06] <ubotu> anjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3760 kB
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> slop|lap: no errors
[04:06] <Tompu> VividHazE: did you change your kernel recently?
[04:06] <JoseStefan> danilocesar, ^^^
[04:06] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, does it say ATI or Mesa?
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> slop|lap: ati
[04:06] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, told ya i had the same error :D:D
[04:06] <rapiscan> baconbacon: Thanks for the tip, looks like it's time for some reading.
[04:06] <VividHazE> Tompu: Yea it says so in those instructions I used, here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:06] <baxter_kylie> Hi. Is there a command to show cpu use of tasks?
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> slop|lap: thanks man your a star well appreciated
[04:06] <babo> so updates won't work then cause freecontrib is down ?
[04:06] <LjL> baxter_kylie: top
[04:07] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, anytime d00d :D
[04:07] <danilocesar> JoseStefan, =/ Sometimes I hate bots... lol
[04:07] <Paddy_EIRE> slop|lap: gonna try and play some games now
[04:07] <JoseStefan> babo what updates are you looking for?
[04:07] <mseve> Sorry to break in.  I am in desperate need of assistance.
[04:07] <slop|lap> Paddy_EIRE, have fun.... (play ut goty 99 w00t)
[04:07] <ianmacgregor> babo: You won't be able to update from that repo, no
[04:07] <elw> anyone know how to get mplayer preview to work in amule?
[04:07] <VividHazE> Tompu: But I originally just tried installing nvidia-glx without that kernel update and it made the same error.
[04:07] <jessi> Tomfu, are you getting them? or is the / in front of the directory messing it up?
[04:07] <baxter_kylie> LjL. Thanks greatly.
[04:08] <JoseStefan> !plf | babo
[04:08] <ubotu> babo: PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[04:08] <babo> JoseStefan: sorry I meant upgrades won't work ...
[04:08] <mseve> ...only getting 640x480 in 6.10
[04:08] <babo> I want to go to edgy ...
[04:08] <ianmacgregor> babo: You don't need PLF to upgrade to Edgy
[04:08] <LjL> babo: you don't do a dist-upgrade for that. follow the guide
[04:08] <JoseStefan> babo, use the default repos only, it should be ok
[04:09] <Tompu> VividHazE: which restricted modules package did you install?
[04:09] <LjL> !upgrade | babo
[04:09] <ubotu> babo: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[04:09] <VividHazE> Tompu: Let me get the names for you...
[04:09] <danilocesar> babo, Dont go to edgy if you need to use Anjuta software..... Lol
[04:09] <mic_> ewnet.net
[04:09] <babo> I'm following the guide ... gksu "update-manager -c"
[04:09] <LjL> and?
[04:09] <Tompu> danilocesar: Anjuta works for me in Edgy. should it be broken?
[04:09] <babo> opens up an gnome client ... where I press upgrade,
[04:09] <rapiscan> bacobbacon,  I have follow up question.  Where should I start if I want to learn more about kernel development and C programming.
[04:10] <jessi> Tompu, all sent
[04:10] <pestilence> any ideas on how to debug why firefox is taking forever long to load pages?  it's stalling on name lookup, but when i do "dig somename.com" it shows up super fast (under 50 msecs)
[04:10] <mseve> o/  <-- hand raised.
[04:10] <ianmacgregor> mseve: hehe
[04:10] <mseve> =)
[04:10] <Tompu> pestilence: blacklist ipv6 module
[04:10] <allad> Hi. I have two ntfs partitions where I store all my data. I can read them with Edgy. But I can't write. Is there a way to obtain write permission on ntfs partitions?
[04:10] <Tompu> jessi: are you registered? i received no messages
[04:10] <pestilence> !blacklist
[04:10] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[04:11] <jessi> I am not registered
[04:11] <wastrel> !ntfs | allad
[04:11] <ubotu> allad: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:11] <VividHazE> Tompu: linux-restricted-modules386, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 I think
[04:11] <mseve> 6.1 sees my R410 adapter, but only getting option to change rez to 640x480.  Any suggestions?
[04:11] <jessi> can I paste in the channel? it is only 4 lines long.
[04:11] <danilocesar> Tompu, I having a lot of bugs here.... Do you can comment code with shortcut like CRTL + D, or clicking Menu - Edit - Comment something? Scintilla works for you?
[04:11] <SnowLprd> Hiya folks. I've been trying to get IP aliasing to work on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Server), but I haven't had much luck. The goal is to get Apache to listen on one IP address, and Litespeed to listen on another. But I can't seem to get Ubuntu to respond to requests on the second IP address. My current /etc/network/interfaces configuration can be seen at:
[04:11] <SnowLprd> http://pastie.caboo.se/20224
[04:11] <SnowLprd> Any suggestions?
[04:11] <donuts> this new xchat is terrible
[04:11] <pestilence> Tompu, do i have to reboot, or can i just rmmod ipv6?
[04:11] <VividHazE> Tompu: It said 10 files including the nvidia-glx were installing though i'm unsure of the others, something like mesa etc.
[04:11] <allad> ubotu, I'm already seeing them. But i can just read write. I wanna write too.
[04:11] <mseve> You should see it at 640x480.
[04:12] <wastrel> donuts:  you've probably got xchat-gnome  enable universe & install xchat
[04:12] <Tompu> danilocesar: you know, you're right. i only used it briefly this morning and didnt notice. argh its awful
[04:12] <donuts> youe right wastrel :-)
[04:12] <Tompu> pestilence: I think  you'll need to reboot, you can try rmmod, but i didnt manage to get it to unload. just save yourself 30 seconds and reboot  ;)
[04:12] <pestilence> ok
[04:12] <jessi> /etc/gdm/Presession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp
[04:12] <pestilence> back in a flash
[04:12] <wombo> could someone please help me with my edgy install, no Hard Drives are appearing (Nforce 4)
[04:12] <Tompu> VividHazE: that sounds normal
[04:12] <jessi> /etc/gdm/presession/Default: running: /usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lub/gdm/ :0.Xservers" -h "" -1 ":0" "jessica"
[04:12] <allad> so basically, at the moment it's impossible to write to ntfs partitions from Linux?
[04:13] <jessi> actually, one sec
[04:13] <elw> how do you get real-time preemption with ubuntu?
[04:13] <wastrel> allad:  it's not currently safe to do so afaik.
[04:13] <danilocesar> Tompu, Did you know that Anjuta 2.0.2 is alpha yet? I dont know why it is on edgy....
[04:13] <VividHazE> Tompu: In one of the detailed error message logs that come up when x server fails to load is that it cannot detect a display device, is that any help?
[04:13] <wombo> ive done a google search but cant find anything on my problem
[04:14] <VividHazE> Tompu: Thats what made me think I needed to specify my monitor first
[04:14] <wweasel> !ntfs > allad
[04:14] <allad> wweasel, human readable please?
[04:14] <VividHazE> Tompu: the funny thing is when I installed Ubuntu Breezy Badger on this computer a few months ago it worked right out of the box. :S
[04:14] <wweasel> !ntfs > wwesael
[04:14] <VividHazE> Edgy is a bit...edgy
[04:14] <VividHazE> hehe
[04:14] <VividHazE> :)
[04:14] <wweasel> !ntfs
[04:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:15] <wweasel> oops
[04:15] <JairunCaloth> oi vey, I'm using NVIDIA binary drivers, and upon upgrading I can no longer log into X
[04:15] <Gg_> Anyone good in rtorrent?
[04:15] <jessi> okay...
[04:15] <LjL> !anyone
[04:15] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:15] <JairunCaloth> and yes, I've reinstalled the drivers
[04:15] <jessi> /etc/gdm/Presession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp
[04:15] <jessi> /etc/gdm/presession/Default: running: /usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lub/gdm/ :0.Xservers" -h "" -1 ":0" "jessica"
[04:15] <VividHazE> Tompu: Any more advice or is it back to Windoze for me? lol
[04:15] <jessi> /etc/gdm/xsession: Beginning session setup
[04:15] <jessi> mkdtemp: private socket dir: No space left on device
[04:15] <jessi> that is it
[04:15] <Tompu> VividHazE: what output does 'sudo nvidia-glx-config' enable give you?
[04:15] <JoseStefan> !paste | jessi
[04:16] <ubotu> jessi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:16] <jessi> :P
[04:16] <jessi> thank you
[04:16] <VividHazE> Tompu: The enable is part of the command right?
[04:16] <wweasel> allad: wastrel is right. It is not stable.  Many people say that they write to ntfs fine.  But no tutorial I have ever seen doesn't have a big warning saying "MAY DESTROY PARTITION
[04:16] <Gg_> My download isn't starting in Rtorrent.. Help!
[04:16] <Tompu> VividHazE: yes
[04:16] <wweasel> allad: or something equally alarming
[04:16] <Tompu> pestilence: any luck?
[04:16] <pestilence> Tompu, i don't think that did it.
[04:16] <mkultra> does anyone know of an alternative repo to freecontrib.org?
[04:16] <LjL> !seveas | mkultra
[04:16] <ubotu> mkultra: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:16] <Tompu> pestilence: fixed it for me :(
[04:17] <allad> wweasel, I see. too bad. Amarok is so great. I'd like to edit the tags of my mp3 from edgy
[04:17] <pestilence> Tompu, wait.  it did.
[04:17] <pestilence> Tompu, it's definitely better now.  is this a common problem in edgy?
[04:17] <VividHazE> Tompu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29273/
[04:17] <wweasel> allad: Agreed, I think Amarok is one of the Linux apps that is way better than any Windows alternative.
[04:17] <Tompu> pestilence: well, it was a problem for me :)
[04:17] <wweasel> allad: Do you have the option of making yourself a new partition? Or changing the partition type?
[04:17] <allad> or maybe have amarok on Windows; but I guess I shouldn't dream too much
[04:18] <pestilence> yea, the first couple of pages loaded slowly, but now they are all loading super fast.
[04:18] <wweasel> allad: when Qt 4 comes out, amarok will run on windows.
[04:18] <allad> wweasel, nope. My laptop is saturated
[04:18] <allad> cool. kde under Windows? gonna be funny
[04:18] <mseve> Could use a little help here.....
[04:18] <JairunCaloth> Do I need the latest nvidia drivers, to be able to continue using the NVIDIA binarys?
[04:18] <wweasel> allad: Not KDE per se I believe, but KDE apps.
[04:19] <InnerFIRE> ...
[04:19] <mister_roboto> !ask
[04:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:19] <wweasel> allad: Well, what I did (I was in the same situation as you) is I backed it all up and rearranged my partitions. I have a large ext2 partition where I store all of my data, and i can R/W in both windows and linux. Windows and Linux are each 10 GB NTFS/ext3.
[04:19] <VividHazE> Tompu: Any ideas?
[04:19] <BlueEagle> jairuncaloth: the nvidia binary what?
[04:19] <moshe> hey all
[04:19] <moshe> I got a firefox 2 question
[04:19] <JairunCaloth> blueeagle: graphics drivers
[04:19] <Tompu> VividHazE: hmm. did you show me your xorg.conf already?
[04:19] <moshe> is there a way to re-enable the "find next" and "highlight" buttons in the search dialogue in firefox 2?
[04:19] <rawrness> Anyone have a clue how to check the spell checker to work in abiword?
[04:19] <wweasel> moshe: go ahead
[04:20] <VividHazE> nope, I'll get it into the pastebin
[04:20] <mseve> 6.1: only rez option
[04:20] <allad> why ext2. why not fat32. cause Windows doesn't support ext2.
[04:20] <BlueEagle> jairuncaloth: So you're asking if you need the latest nvidia drivers to be able to use the latest nvidia drivers?
[04:20] <moshe> their removal is quite an annoying "feature" in this new version
[04:20] <mseve> I can't SU in term....
[04:20] <allad> wweasel,but linux does support fat32.
[04:20] <Tompu> moshe: they're enabled for me in firefox2
[04:20] <moshe> hmmm
[04:20] <rawrness> allad:  windows can support ex2
[04:20] <wweasel> allad: FAT32 has a 4gb file size limit.  ext2 can be done in Windows using www.fs-driver.com
[04:20] <moshe> I just did a fresh install of Edgy and they're missing when I do a search on a webpage
[04:20] <JairunCaloth> blueeagle: well, it's irrelevent, I just checked and I have the lastest drivers
[04:20] <pestilence> moshe, it doesn't do it when you type /, but if you hit ctrl+f they show up
[04:20] <moshe> oh
[04:21] <moshe> wait
[04:21] <VividHazE> Tompu: Xorg.conf file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29274/
[04:21] <rawrness> anyone know how to get abiwords spell checker to work?
[04:21] <allad> wow. that's interesting. I didn't know that
[04:21] <mister_roboto> allad: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[04:21] <moshe> firefox now differentiates between a find instigated by ctrl-f and a find instigated by a /
[04:21] <moshe> damn
[04:21] <moshe> that's annoying
[04:21] <mseve> Runninig 6.1, only video rez avail is 640x480, can't SU in terminal to edit xorg.conf.  Options?
[04:21] <moshe> is there a way to change this?
[04:21] <allad> it's great. thanks.
[04:21] <mister_roboto> allad: oops, someone already sent you that :)
[04:21] <JairunCaloth> blueeable: I'm stuck in terminal mode
[04:21] <BlueEagle> moshe: if there is it would probably be found on the special page: about:config
[04:21] <allad> mister_robot, it's ok. thanks all of you
[04:21] <wweasel> moshe: you might be able to change that. but #ubuntu isn't the place to deal with firefox issues
[04:22] <Toma-> mseve: sudo <editor> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:22] <BlueEagle> ...if I remember correctly.
[04:22] <wweasel> moshe: Ask in #firefox
[04:22] <rawrness> Abiword how do i turn on spell checker?
[04:22] <mseve> Toma, sudo, how?
[04:22] <BlueEagle> !sudo
[04:22] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:22] <Toma-> ^^^
[04:22] <wweasel> rawrness: It's a pain.  I had to do it, I don't remember how, but it is a pain, that much I can assure you.  Sorry I can't be of more help.
[04:22] <mistershooby> i can't update to edgy
[04:22] <mseve> rgr, on it, thanks....
[04:22] <Tompu> VividHazE: looks okay to me :/
[04:23] <mistershooby> i get a problem in the update manager
[04:23] <VividHazE> Tompu: :S
[04:23] <Tompu> VividHazE: I'm out of ideas
[04:23] <zuptux> hi together
[04:23] <AngryElf> what'd the program called that mirrors the repos locally so everytime you install something it doesn't have to be downloaded?
[04:23] <rawrness> wweasel:  Any suggestions for other word processers? openoffice is real laggy for me.
[04:23] <zuptux> ive a question
[04:23] <VividHazE> this sucks, linux doesn't like me! I installed SuSE on my hard drive a few weeks ago and the day afterwards the HDD crashed completely
[04:23] <VividHazE> :S:S:S
[04:23] <mistershooby> something about how freecontrib repository is down?
[04:23] <zuptux> id like to bride my network internet connection
[04:23] <wastrel> rawrness:  try abiword
[04:23] <Maczimus> In Edgy, with open office writer I copy a document and want to paste it into firefox...(this is in a gmail web email compose window) as soon as i hit paste, OO.o Writer crashes and it says it has to rescue my document. the only work around is that i paste the text into gedit then copy again and paste into firefox no probs? any possible solution?
[04:23] <wweasel> rawrness: No, I loves me the abiword. OpenOffice is ugly.
[04:23] <mseve> ....sudo, sweet, thanks....
[04:23] <rawrness> kk
[04:23] <wweasel> wastrel: you want to help him get dictionary working in abiword?
[04:24] <wastrel> wweasel:  dictionary?  heh
[04:24] <zuptux> the pc that has internet has web per dhtcp (working) on eth0
[04:24] <Gg_> My download isn't starting in Rtorrent.. Help!
[04:24] <allad> fs-driver.org is great. thanks man. it's such a good thing. All my file sharing issues are solved(almost). Windows can now access my linux partitions.
[04:24] <VividHazE> Tompu: thanks for taking the time to try anyway, if I get it working I'll be right back to say so :P
[04:24] <VividHazE> lol
[04:24] <BDerwent> is there anyway to salvage a bad edgy upgrade? firefox crashes every five seconds (literally), and the networking is screwed up
[04:24] <zuptux> an the pc that id like to share my connection with is on eth1
[04:25] <BDerwent> not to mention xfce completely not worknig
[04:25] <allad> BDer
[04:25] <allad> oops
[04:25] <mistershooby> here's the problem when I tryh to do the edgy update
[04:25] <kbrosnan> BDerwent: if you have flash installed try removing that, else http://kb.mozillazine.org/Standard_diagnostic_-_Firefox
[04:25] <mistershooby> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg Temporary failure resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org'
[04:25] <mistershooby> and
[04:25] <mistershooby> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg Temporary failure resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org'
[04:26] <wweasel> allad: No problem man :) If you want to do dual-booting long term, I recommend a set up like mine, with 3 partitions: Windows (NTFS), Linux (your preference) and Data (FAT32 or ext2).  I even keep my firefox and thunderbird profiles in the Data partition, and point both windows and linux versions to fetch the profiles there.
[04:26] <SnowLprd> Ugh. IP aliasing? Anyone know how to do this?
[04:26] <BDerwent> it's not just firefox though
[04:26] <SnowLprd> I'm flummoxed.
[04:26] <mseve> Thanks Toma,  BRB
[04:26] <wastrel> rawrness:   edit > preferences > spellcheck  ?
[04:26] <wastrel> in abiword
[04:26] <Toma-> mseve: np
[04:26] <BDerwent> if i reinstall from a livecd would that make a difference?
[04:26] <wweasel> SnowLprd: sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[04:26] <linux_galore> heres a question when i updated from Dapper to Edgy (after a bit of stuffing around because it didnt update the kernel) I ended up with two packages that wont install. one is xorg the other isnt important, now the machine boots to the desktop just fine, do i actually need the xorg package and why
[04:26] <ianmacgregor> wweasel: That's what can happen when you use a thrid party repo, they may not be around when you need them.
[04:26] <allad> wweasel, lol. it's great. is there the 4GB file size limit on ext2?
[04:27] <VividHazE> Tompu you there?
[04:27] <Tompu> VividHazE: hai.
[04:27] <E[m] ess> anyone know how to fix this? http://rafb.net/paste/results/WIcEcA70.html
[04:27] <wweasel> ianmacgregor: wrong person?
[04:27] <Drace> Anyone here have much experience with dual booting Ubuntu and WinXP? I'm looking at a guide now that looks pretty straightforward... just curious if there's anything "interesting" anyone has seen, or if it's mostly a breeze. :)
[04:27] <VividHazE> Tompu: Umm, even though I restarted XServer before like twice i just did it there now and glxinfo | grep rendering now says yes! :S
[04:27] <shadowhywind> anyone around that can help me with fstab in edgy, after the upgrade i have no swap partition
[04:27] <Tompu> VividHazE: heheh, best not to ask any questions ;)
[04:27] <ianmacgregor> wweasel: Yep, sorry about that
[04:28] <BDerwent> drace: just go for it.
[04:28] <pokipapaw> hello...i just dropped a tv tuner card into computer any  recommendations for a  program to get this card working?
[04:28] <VividHazE> Tompu: And the refresh rate is higher, but there arn't any higher resolutions that I want
[04:28] <Drace> Good deal.
[04:28] <babo> this sucks ...
[04:28] <wweasel> Drace: It's a breeze. Dunno if this is an issue for you, but it's easier if you install Windows before linux.
[04:28] <VividHazE> only 1024 is showing, this 21" monitor can handle 1600x12000 easily
[04:28] <linux_galore> you would think the xorg package is important but from what Im seeing edgy works fine without it
[04:28] <babo> my upgrade won't work because freecontrib is down, and yes I'm following the instructions ...
[04:28] <rawrness> wastrel: I just got everything but spell checker word i got the thesaurus, and dictionary.
[04:28] <Toma-> pokipapaw: tvtime will access it, once you set it up with bttv
[04:28] <Drace> Yeah, got Windows here. Mostly for the wife, but I'd like to pop Ubuntu on here now.
[04:28] <wastrel> mistershooby:  what's this freecontrib.org business & why is it in your sources.list?   i don't think that's supported for upgrades
[04:28] <wweasel> allad: Nope. Only FAT32.  You have to remember, FAT32 is a fairly old filesystem, and 4 gb was unthinkably big. Unfortunately, they didn't think ahead too much.
[04:28] <wweasel> Drace: Then it should be a breeze. Goferit!
[04:28] <mistershooby> wastrel: how do I remove it
[04:28] <JairunCaloth> Can somone point me in the right direction here, I'm using NVIDIA binary video drivers, and I just dist-upgraded to edgy. Now I'm stuck in terminal mode. Yes, I've recompiled the driver already.
[04:28] <mistershooby> from my sources list
[04:29] <mister_roboto> babo: do you have the option of just removing that repository from your sources.list?
[04:29] <linux_galore> babo: remove freecontrib its not repo anymore
[04:29] <Tompu> VividHazE: add them to your Xorg.conf
[04:29] <pokipapaw> thank you very much toma :)
[04:29] <shadowhywind>  i just opened qtparted, and for my swap-partition, it comes up with unknow, if i reformate it as a linux-swap would that fix it?
[04:29] <wastrel> mistershooby:  i'm sure i don't know :] 
[04:29] <VividHazE> Tompu: Umm...right.... :S
[04:29] <VividHazE> lol
[04:29] <wweasel> SnowLprd: Did you figure out /etc/hosts ?
[04:29] <babo> where's the repo list stored again ?
[04:29] <allad> wweasel, I've just checked up. The file size limit in ext2 is 2TB. I think it should be ok for me. lol
[04:29] <wastrel> rawrness:  i think abiword uses ispell for spellcheck - do you have ispell installed?
[04:29] <Tompu> VividHazE: what rez are you after?
[04:29] <mister_roboto> babo: /etc/apt
[04:29] <mseve> Toma.... 640x480 still only rez setting available.
[04:29] <babo> thanks
[04:29] <SnowLprd> wweasel: What changes should be made to /etc/hosts?
[04:29] <wweasel> allad:    :) yeah, that's good for most of us
[04:29] <Toma-> !fixres > mseve
[04:30] <mistershooby> what wastrel?
[04:30] <Tompu> !fixres
[04:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:30] <Toma-> check ubotu's msg
[04:30] <VividHazE> 1600 x 1200, and that one below it can't remember it exactly, is it 1280 x something?
[04:30] <wastrel> mistershooby:  i don't know how to fix your prob, sorry
[04:30] <VividHazE> 1024 i think
[04:30] <mistershooby> oh ok
[04:30] <mseve> fixres?
[04:30] <Tompu> VividHazE: repost your Xorg.conf to pastebin again (really)
[04:30] <rawrness> wastrel:  Don't know......... the dictionary works though
[04:30] <Toma-> see the link above ^^^
[04:30] <Tompu> VividHazE: and i'll add the lines myself
[04:31] <mseve> ...looking...
[04:31] <wweasel> SnowLprd: Well, you want to alias an IP address to a name, so you can ping (for example) "Router" and have it point to "192.168.1.1"?
[04:31] <Toma-> mseve: specifically, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:31] <mistershooby> anyone want to teach me how to remove freecontrib from my sources.list?
[04:31] <Toma-> mistershooby: easysource will help
[04:31] <linux_galore> so no answers on that question huh, why does ubuntu (edgy) work fine without the xorg package ever being installed but refuses to update and install the package because it will break the system
[04:31] <VividHazE> cool! Tompu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29274/
[04:31] <bimberi> mistershooby: 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and put a # at the start of that line
[04:32] <wastrel> rawrness:  i'm not familiar with a dictionary in abiword.   what do you have for Abiword   Edit menu > preferences > spell check  pane?
[04:32] <mistershooby> bimberl: and I don't need freecontrib to update right
[04:32] <bimberi> mistershooby: and do a 'sudo apt-get update' after editing
[04:32] <bimberi> mistershooby: definitely not
[04:32] <wweasel> SnowLprd: If you look at /etc/hosts, that's how come when you ping "localhost" it points to "127.0.0.1".  Using the same format, alias whatever IP to whatever name you want.
[04:32] <mistershooby> okay
[04:32] <mseve> hmmm,   no aticonfig.....
[04:32] <linux_galore> mistershooby: no its not supporting edgy
[04:32] <kmull> can someone help a newbie?
[04:32] <mister_roboto> linux_galore: what does this command give as a response?  dpkg -L xserver-xorg
[04:33] <babo> so what was that again then gksudo ...
[04:33] <ir1> So is easyubuntu dead???
[04:33] <wweasel> SnowLprd: Confirm don't follow
[04:33] <ir1> I cant wget it?
[04:33] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: yeah thats installed
[04:33] <kmull> Can someone help me?
[04:33] <wweasel> !ask
[04:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:33] <babo> !edgy
[04:33] <Tompu> VividHazE: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29275/
[04:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[04:33] <ir1> Please i really would like to get Easyubuntu?
[04:33] <allad> kmull, sure. we are all here for that
[04:33] <rawrness> wastrel:  nothingness just abunch of check parks
[04:33] <SnowLprd> wweasel: I was first trying to get Ubuntu to respond to requests on the IP address at all, without worrying about host names. I didn't think an entry in /etc/hosts would be required for the machine to respond, for example, to "ssh 214.32.53.166" type of requests. Perhaps I'm wrong. ;)
[04:33] <allad> kmull, but next just ask.
[04:34] <mseve> missing aticonfig...
[04:34] <rawrness> wastrel:  I am googling it up right now
[04:34] <wastrel> rawrness:  sudo apt-get install ispell   then reopen abiword. ..   if that doesn't work, i don't know :] 
[04:34] <kmull> I tried to upgrade to Edgy, but when I restart my laptop I am getting a failure of X. I can go in via the safe mode. All I need to do is to save some desktop files, then I can wipe the machine. But I really need to save my /home folder
[04:34] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: all the xorg packages needed are installed accept the xorg package
[04:34] <Lam_> after installing nvidia-glx and restarting the computer using the "nvidia" driver, the bold-faced fonts are .. too bold?  is that supposed to happen?
[04:34] <VividHazE> Tompu: Thanks! found where you did it, I think i want 1280 not 1200, but now i know where to change it, thanks! If your alterations breaks it again though i'm gonna be annoyed! LOL jk
[04:34] <VividHazE> :)
[04:34] <Toma-> !fstab
[04:34] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[04:34] <wastrel> !ati | mseve
[04:34] <ubotu> mseve: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:34] <ianmacgregor> ir1: With all due respect, I feel people sholdn't be using easyubuntu because you can do the same things when you learn about your syste, and you won't be left high and dry later because you won't need a script tp do something you can do yourself.
[04:34] <mister_roboto> linux_galore: "xorg" is probably just a meta-package (brings in lots of other xorg packages)
[04:34] <mseve> ubotu,,,,  !thanks
[04:34] <ubotu> Thanks for the help!
[04:34] <kmull> I tried to upgrade to Edgy, but when I restart my laptop I am getting a failure of X. I can go in via the safe mode. All I need to do is to save some desktop files, then I can wipe the machine. But I really need to save my /home folder
[04:34] <ir1> So anyone have a clue why I cant get Xchat in any source or find easyubuntu?
[04:35] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: aaah, so it might have a dep bug in it that apt's worked around
[04:35] <wweasel> SnowLprd: No, you're right. I figured what you meant by IP aliasing is that you don't always want to type "ssh 214.32.53.166", or have to remember that. That's what I use the hosts file for. I name my pcs and do "ssh plato" and "ssh dragon"
[04:35] <bimberi> kmull: in safe (recovery?) mode, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and choose the vesa driver.  Hopefully that will get a rudimentary X environment working
[04:35] <VividHazE> Tompu: Do i need a restart or will this work right away?
[04:35] <mister_roboto> linux_galore: i don't know. but you never really NEED a meta package if you have all the *real* packages
[04:35] <ir1> HELLO?
[04:36] <Tompu> VividHazE: you need to restart X
[04:36] <SnowLprd> wweasel: Yeah, I hear ya. I was talking about having Ubuntu respond to multiple IP addresses on a single NIC.
[04:36] <kmull> bimberi i tried that. don't think it worked. let me try again
[04:36] <VividHazE> oh ok, if it breaks i'll be back but if not, thanks for your help Tompu! :D
[04:36] <Tompu> VividHazE: np ;)
[04:36] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: its a download package too not one on the CD, and I dont have that package installed at all
[04:36] <ir1> So Am I not voiced or just being ignored?
[04:36] <phaedra> ir1, xchat is available in either multi or universe.  Just enable them.
[04:36] <mister_roboto> linux_galore: neither do i :)
[04:36] <bimberi> ir1: xchate is in the universe repository and can be installed via Applications -> Add/Remove
[04:36] <wweasel> !universe
[04:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:36] <ir1> No its not i just looked
[04:37] <jessi> Tompu, did you figure out what is wrong with my machine?
[04:37] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: just annoying because the update manager keeps nagging me about it
[04:37] <wweasel> irl: you need to enable universe/multiverse repos
[04:37] <gogeta> i can help everyone at once
[04:37] <wweasel> !multiverse
[04:37] <gogeta> dont try updating to edgy threw apt
[04:37] <bimberi> ir1: looked at what?
[04:37] <ir1> It is not in any opf the sources on the unofficial starter guides sources.list
[04:37] <phaedra> ir1, I just installed it via synaptic yesterday.  It has to be there.
[04:37] <gogeta> you will frage your system
[04:37] <maxflax> Anyone that can answer me why I can't run alsa-driver 1.0.13 and later on ubuntu?
[04:37] <wweasel> SnowLprd: Aha. No idea. I've never heard of that being possible.
[04:37] <bimberi> ir1: did you try Applications -> Add/Remove ?
[04:38] <allad> kmull, if you really want to wipe all your computer. try install edgy from a cd and make sure you don't format your /home partition(assuming your /home on a separated partition)
[04:38] <mister_roboto> linux_galore: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/source/xorg apparently, it's a source package.
[04:38] <wweasel> bimberi: most likely he doesn't have the repos.
[04:38] <kmull> "xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed"
[04:38] <bimberi> wweasel: doesn't matter, gnome-app-install enables them for you
[04:38] <SnowLprd> wweasal: No worries. Appreciate your help. I think I've somehow managed -- by accident, it seems -- to get it to work.  ;)
[04:38] <rbil> SnowLprd: what happens when you add another ip address to your nic?
[04:38] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: so just remove a sources repo and it should go away
[04:38] <rbil> you can't ping it?
[04:39] <SnowLprd> rbil: at first, nothing
[04:39] <rbil> SnowLprd: did you restart the nic?
[04:39] <bimberi> kmull: eww, does a 'apt-get -f install' help?
[04:39] <SnowLprd> rbil: e.g., SSH requests to the 2nd IP address would time out
[04:39] <mister_roboto> linux_galore: that makes sense to me. don't know for sure. i can see it in my cache but i never had update whine about it
[04:39] <chumptastic> does anyone have any experience with ivtv on edgy?
[04:39] <SnowLprd> rbil: Yes, ran "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[04:39] <kmull> @bimberi: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:40] <ir1> EASYUBUNTU?
[04:40] <ir1> What happened to it?
[04:40] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: I have a efeling I installed it in dapper to compile something
[04:40] <maxflax> or has anyone gotten the latest alsa-drivers 1.0.13 to work on ubuntu .. maybe it's my soundcard that only manages 1.0.12?
[04:40] <rbil> SnowLprd: hmmm, I don't know why that would be happening?
[04:40] <jessi> oh. Idea
[04:40] <mister_roboto> linux_galore: just remove it
[04:40] <bimberi> kmull: :/
[04:40] <pestilence> Tompu, you also have to do about:config and search for ipv6....and toggle that to "true" if it's false
[04:40] <jessi> what is the command to give root a password again?
[04:40] <Gg_> Anyone good at rtorrent?
[04:40] <kmull> bimeri: screwed?
[04:40] <jrib> !root | jessi
[04:40] <ubotu> jessi: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:40] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: yeah but I dont have it installed
[04:40] <ir1> Does anyone know?
[04:40] <rbil> SnowLprd: personally I've never tried to ssh to a second ip addy. But I would have thought it would work.
[04:40] <mister_roboto> linux_galore: ahh :)
[04:40] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: the update removed it
[04:41] <jessi> jrib, I need to log in graphically
[04:41] <gogeta> jessi you dont need onee in ubuntu
[04:41] <bimberi> kmull: well no, there are ways to backup via cli
[04:41] <jessi> :/
[04:41] <kmull> cli?
[04:41] <bimberi> kmull: sorry, command line
[04:41] <kmull> haha
[04:41] <jrib> jessi: I don't see why you would need to do that, but read ubotu's link
[04:41] <SnowLprd> rbil: I've somehow managed to get it to respond to both IP addresses, but running the above network restart command yields: "SIOCADDRT: File exists. Failed to bring up eth0." Makes me nervous that the machine isn't going to be remotely accessible upon restart. :(
[04:41] <gogeta> jessi you can sudo anything
[04:41] <itson> hi guys, i just finished installing ubuntu, need someones help gettin around places and finding some files, im comin from gentoo plz help me with few questions i have.
[04:41] <jessi> I think I know about sudo, I would like an answer to my question and not a way around it.
[04:41] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: for some goofy reason it wants to put it back
[04:41] <kmull> i've got a usb drive, but couldn't figure out how to cp the files over to it
[04:41] <rage-> whats the nvidia accellerated driver package names in ubuntu?
[04:41] <rawrness> wastrel:  Thanks for your help turned out i need aspell-en package i apt-got it and it works fine :P anyways thanks for your time
[04:41] <Tompu> pestilence: ah good find
[04:42] <gogeta> rage nivida-glx
[04:42] <variant> !xvidcap
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvidcap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <mister_roboto> linux_galore: maybe you have some other source package installed that depends on xorg?
[04:42] <variant> !gvidcap
[04:42] <allad> kmull, have you miounted your drive?
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gvidcap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <kmull> allad: the usb?
[04:42] <maxflax> answers ppl.. someone must have done some audio mippling..
[04:42] <allad> kmull, yeah
[04:42] <rbil> SnowLprd:  and doing iconfig eth0 off and then on does what?
[04:42] <variant> whats the program called that records the desktop? i cant remember
[04:42] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: maybe, but the machine isnt complaining
[04:42] <rage-> gogeta, that will get me the "nvidia" X driver as well?
[04:42] <itson> how do i disable gui login? i tried looking in /etc/rc.conf but didnt find anything there.
[04:42] <kmull> don't know how to do it via cli. i'm complete newb
[04:42] <variant> maxflax: what you wanna know?
[04:42] <variant> itson: remove gdm
[04:43] <kmull> when i plug it in i get sda:assuming drive cache: write through
[04:43] <variant> itson: will giveyou  a console instead
[04:43] <bimberi> kmull: OK when you plug it in it will hopefully automount, the 'df' command will show you
[04:43] <maxflax> variant, if anybody has gotten alsa-1.0.13 and later to work on ubuntu?
[04:43] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: it tells em the sources packages are not in sync with the binaries in edgy
[04:43] <rbil> sorry, meant ifconfig :-) jeez .... SnowLprd
[04:43] <itson> i dont want to remove gdm, i want to be able to turn it off. is there another way besides removing gdm?
[04:43] <allad> kmull, i see.
[04:43] <variant> itson: remove it from the startup services
[04:43] <SnowLprd> rbil: ifconfig eth0 off  and then ifconfig eth0 on? (looks like you wrote iconfig) Also, is it safe to do this remotely?
[04:43] <gogeta> itson booting with init 3 whont start gdm or x
[04:43] <itson> k, let me try to figure it out, thx variant
[04:43] <wastrel> itson:  sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[04:43] <mseve> ubotu...WOHOO!!
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about WOHOO!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <Tompu> hahah
[04:44] <mseve> Next issue, multi-monitor?
[04:44] <rbil> SnowLprd: how would you do that remotely, once you went off you'd lose connection :-)
[04:44] <wastrel> itson:  to restore   sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults
[04:44] <mseve> ubotu multi monitor
[04:44] <SnowLprd> rbil: well, that's what I thought, which is why I asked before doing it. ;) The machine in question is in a data center over 60 miles away.
[04:45] <mister_roboto> linux_galore: did you do a dist-upgrade? wonder how it left some source packages out of sync?
[04:45] <allad> kmull, create a directory somewhere. "sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp". and then mount your drive. "sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/tmp -o users,rw,umask=000"
[04:45] <kmull> allad: can u help via pm?
[04:45] <itson> thank you,
[04:45] <kmull> nvm
[04:45] <rbil> SnowLprd:  maybe write a little script that will run ... off and then on?
[04:45] <itson> thank you wastrel, brb let me try killing X,
[04:45] <DaGame> I'm trying to cut the first 4 chars off everyline in a pipe, how do I acheive this?
[04:45] <allad> kmull, ya. I
[04:45] <mseve> Does anyone know if edgy support miltiple monitors?
[04:45] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: no I used the aptitude method as noted on the dapper->edgy ubuntu howto page
[04:45] <wastrel> heh he'll need to stop the running gdm first
[04:45] <rbil> SnowLprd: launch the script while on and I'd think it would complete even if you were disconnected to turn back on
[04:45] <gogeta> mseve no reasion it wouldent
[04:45] <jrib> !xinerama | mseve
[04:45] <ubotu> mseve: xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[04:46] <SnowLprd> rbil: the part that I'm *really* confused about is that it says "Failed to bring up eth0" , but yet the ssh connection is still up. Bizarre.
[04:46] <JairunCaloth> why can't I install kernel-headers-`uname -r`?
[04:46] <mseve> thanks.
[04:46] <vskye> mseve yes, there is multiple monitor support.
[04:46] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: think i should ahve stuck with dapper lol
[04:46] <rbil> SnowLprd:  then maybe you're connected to a different ip addy then the one you brought down? I just dont know. Never tried that.
[04:46] <linux_galore> have*
[04:46] <mister_roboto> DaGame: |cut -c5-
[04:47] <kmull> allad: PMing you now
[04:47] <rbil> SnowLprd:  possible that ip addy needs to be included in the ifconfig command to bring down a particular address?
[04:47] <jessi> okay, how do I kill X?
[04:47] <mister_roboto> linux_galore: :)   sorry man, not sure how best to fix that
[04:47] <wastrel> <3 cut
[04:48] <Tompu> jessi: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:48] <Tompu> jessi: or killall X
[04:48] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: main reason I updated was because gtkpod on dapper is compiled with video transfer disabled and when i downloaded the latest source version I got a hal error
[04:48] <jessi> okay
[04:48] <SnowLprd> rbil: Hmm. It's possible, I suppose. I've been doing all the configuration solely by editing the /etc/networking/interfaces file and then restarting via "/etc/init.d/networking restart"
[04:48] <allad> kmul, ok.
[04:49] <maxflax> How do I start gnome from terminal?
[04:49] <rawrness> A tool for anyone wanting to get graphic drivers and beryl running just check out beryls wiki real simpile guide http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/
[04:49] <jessi> Basically, I think if I log in as root it will free up the larger partition and use it to start mkdtemp thingie. then I can change the partition mount point around from there.
[04:49] <jessi> But it is not wanting to allow this.
[04:49] <SnowLprd> rbil: I haven't even run ifconfig once, as (a) I didn't know I needed to, and (b) didn't know how to use it in conjunction with the /etc/networking/interfaces file.
[04:49] <DanaG> anyone else finding that the SVN beryl has broken keys everywhere?
[04:49] <rbil> SnowLprd: looking at man ifconfig, it looks like address being a switch might indeed only apply to that ip addy??? just guessing
[04:49] <mister_roboto> linux_galore: what exactly is the complaint from update that you get?
[04:50] <DanaG> Also, gsynaptics complains about Unknown parameter CoastingSpeedThreashold
[04:50] <DanaG> Yeah, it's misspelled that way.
[04:50] <shadowhywind> is there uspposed to be a record for the swap partition in mtab?
[04:50] <rbil> SnowLprd:  I think the networking service might include more stuff than just doing it with ifconfig
[04:50] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: so I updated to edgy and gtkpod still has video file transfers disabled and the compiled version still spits out an error about some usb driver not being identified
[04:50] <maxflax> if I have terminated x and all. and I want to restart it. what do I type?
[04:50] <myke> hello all
[04:50] <zheng> Hi,all,how to boot from usbdisk to install ubuntu over network?
[04:50] <rbil> SnowLprd: have to read that networking script and see
[04:50] <kmull> allad: ??
[04:50] <myke> what is the command to setup the resolutions in X>?
[04:51] <SnowLprd> rbil: Hmm... I'll take a look. Have to say I'm surprised it's so difficult to do IP address multihoming on Ubuntu. Frustrating. :(
[04:51] <myke> xorg config?
[04:51] <dcraven> maxflax, /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:51] <allad> kmull, waiting for your PM
[04:51] <DanaG> also, my dhcp client doesn't always work.
[04:51] <link_36p> Hey, im getting crashes for no apearnt reason in edgy on login, any ideas where to start troubleshooting?
[04:51] <rbil> SnowLprd: I wouldn't expect it either. I thought it just worked.
[04:51] <myke> Danag
[04:51] <DanaG> I have to make /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf send host-name and mac address.
[04:51] <kmull> allad: can you pm me? i've got a dialog open with you that i'm guessing you don't see
[04:51] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: I can transfer audio files frin with gtkpod though, weird
[04:51] <linux_galore> fine*
[04:51] <kmull> allad: a private chat, as it were
[04:51] <rbil> SnowLprd: second addy in same subnet?
[04:52] <SnowLprd> rbil: yes
[04:52] <mister_roboto> linux_galore: don't know anything about gtkpod. maybe they just don't do video yet?
[04:52] <allad> kmull, I've just PMed you.
[04:52] <Sensae> What would be the best way of setting up Ubuntu to not allow logins for a certain user after a certain time, and auto-log them off?
[04:52] <SnowLprd> rbil: I'll paste the config. One sec.
[04:52] <maxflax> dcraven, thank you
[04:52] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: I found something on the ubuntu forums about it, something between hal and gtkpod is broken
[04:52] <rbil> SnowLprd: maybe it's a router thing?? Forwarding the port to just the one addy?
[04:53] <rbil> SnowLprd: in router allow port 22 to go to both ip addresses?
[04:53] <kmull> allad nevermind.. mirc wants me to register or something
[04:53] <kmull> anyways
[04:53] <mister_roboto> Sensae: usermod --expiredate
[04:53] <kmull> the mount didn't work
[04:53] <mister_roboto> Sensae: man usermod
[04:53] <kmull> doesn't see ext3 on the usb
[04:53] <AkumAPRIME> Hey, this: http://paste.uni.cc/11193 is my breaking xorg.conf. When I use it, I get the error Monitor 1 and 2 can not be type NONE. I'm trying to get my dual monitor setup running well.. any ideas? ty
[04:53] <SnowLprd> rbil: Good suggestion. No router involved, however. :)
[04:53] <rbil> hmmmm
[04:53] <link_36p> Im getting hard locks when i log in
[04:53] <allad> kmull, are you under Windows right now?
[04:53] <myke> what is the command to configure x?
[04:53] <DanaG> did someone say something to me?
[04:54] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: no it does video file transfers, you just need to have the libs installed to do it, it also notes at the end of the ./configure cycle that m2v video transfer support will be compiled into gtkpod
[04:54] <mister_roboto> myke: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:54] <SnowLprd> rbil: http://pastie.caboo.se/20224
[04:54] <kmull> allad: i am on my desktop, not on my laptop
[04:54] <rbil> SnowLprd:  my guru isn't online at the moment or I'd ask him... I know he does this all the time
[04:54] <DanaG> send dhcp-client-identifier
[04:54] <kmull> allad: laptop is terminal for linux
[04:54] <shadowhywind> is there a way to repop fstab?
[04:54] <myke> mister thanks
[04:54] <rawrness> Woot my computer is running alot faster since i installed the beta drivers :P
[04:54] <DanaG> copy and paste whatever ifconfig gives you
[04:54] <allad> kmull, so? you are under Windows right now?
[04:54] <rawrness> Edgy fast!
[04:54] <kmull> allad yes
[04:54] <mister_roboto> rawrness: what beta drivers?
[04:54] <Sensae> mister_roboto: --expiredate doesn't seem to do what I want, I want it to disable logins for a certain account, and auto-logoff, between 23:00 and 07:00 on weekdays, and 01:00 and 07:00 on weekends
[04:55] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: heres the weird thing, on Mandriva 2007 it all works fine by default
[04:55] <SnowLprd> rbil: Gurus are handy for this sort of thing. Appears to be working now, which is great, but the errors I mentioned leave me very nervous.
[04:55] <allad> ok. to make windows recognize your ext3 partition, try http://www.fs-driver.org
[04:55] <linux_galore> mister_roboto: so Mandriva have fixed it some how
[04:55] <myke> should i use frambuffer if i have a pcix vid card?
[04:55] <paul__> anyone know where i can download aol 5.0 from
[04:55] <host`> how do I use apt-get to install edgy?
[04:55] <mister_roboto> Sensae: oh, i misunderstood your question :)
[04:55] <DanaG> AOL?  Hah.
[04:55] <rawrness> paul__:  you use aol GASP@
[04:56] <Tompu> AkumAPRIME: I think you need something like 'Option     "MonitorLayout" "CRT, CRT"' in your device section, but this is from memory only
[04:56] <DanaG> AOL uses proprietary dialup systems, don't they?
[04:56] <paul__> i dont know what that is
[04:56] <link_36p> paul_ where do you livE?
[04:56] <mister_roboto> Sensae: you can run some script instead of /bin/bash that checks the time. if in the allowed time, exec /bin/bash
[04:56] <paul__> us
[04:56] <rawrness> i GET MY DSL! for 10 bucks cheaperr than their dial up
[04:56] <host`> there is a way to connect to aol with linux though
[04:56] <mister_roboto> Sensae: know what i mean?
[04:56] <link_36p> city?
[04:56] <paul__> cleveland
[04:56] <DanaG> The first issue is getting the modem to work.
[04:56] <link_36p> ok nvm
[04:56] <AkumAPRIME> Tompu, I believe I have that listed under a section according to the Huge mega faq. Let me check. TY
[04:56] <kmull> allad install this then redo my usb drive as ext3?
[04:56] <DanaG> Then you have to get authentication to work.
[04:56] <rbil> SnowLprd:  well I guess you can't argue with it if it is working :-) but those errors, I don't understand either.
[04:56] <paul__> y u ask
[04:56] <Sensae> mister_roboto: Mh.. What about auto-logging off?
[04:56] <maxflax> Have ANYONE that has a soundcard that uses module snd-hda-intel tried alsa-drivers above 1.0.12..and got it to work?
[04:57] <AkumAPRIME> Tompu: Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS, TMDS" is what the faq says to use
[04:57] <mister_roboto> Sensae: if it not in the allowed time, just display a message instead of exec'ing a shell. they won't get logged on
[04:57] <myke> should i use frame buffer for a non-integrated video card?
[04:57] <SnowLprd> rbil: Yes, I'm happy that it's working. Just wondering whether it's going to work next time I try to connect. ;)
[04:57] <AkumAPRIME> Tompu: shall I try crt, crt?
[04:57] <JuGhEaD__> Does anyone know much about ubuntu running on dell laptops w/ intel pro wireless and intel integrated graphics
[04:57] <Tompu> AkumAPRIME: you're right, you have the line there already. You could try the crt values, but i really doubt it will help
[04:57] <ade> AkumAPRIME: shouldn't you have a horizsync and vertrefresh for each monitor?  I always seem to have those...
[04:57] <jessi> yes!
[04:58] <rbil> SnowLprd:  yeh, I hear you. Oh well if it doesn't, start up your engines for the 60 mi drive :-)
[04:58] <jessi> I win
[04:58] <maxxism> <---- Favourite new toys   ------ Ubuntu-Server-6.10 + webmin
[04:58] <KooL4444> how do i search for a file from the prompt?
[04:58] <DanaG> snd-hda-intel is screwy.
[04:58] <allad> kmull, i think we are confused. You want to back up your /home. and you got an usbdrive. and your drive, is it in ext3 fs?
[04:58] <DanaG> It only works half the time for me.
[04:58] <wastrel> KooL4444:  locate <filename>
[04:58] <piratepete> I didn't have this server before Edgy, but cool :-) .... you guys like Ubuntu as much as I do?
[04:58] <KooL4444> ty
[04:58] <Sensae> mister_roboto: Um, I might be misunderstanding, but I'm mostly worried about them logging on during the allowed time, and then just staying on past the disallowed time
[04:58] <SnowLprd> rbil: Yup, that's about the only choice I'll have. ;) Thanks for all of your help! Much, much appreciated.
[04:58] <paul__> what the irc command for channel list
[04:58] <AkumAPRIME> Tompu: perhaps it needs to be under Both Devices? ade: I have a refresh rate in mine now, thats not in the paste bin, but it's not listed in the faq...
[04:58] <kmull> allad: i want to backup /home on my laptop which is ubuntu only. I also have a windows desktop. The USB drive is a FAT drive.
[04:59] <rbil> SnowLprd:  or a cronjob that runs in say 15 minutes to reset things, just incase you can't get back in with ssh as it stands now
[04:59] <allad> kmull. ok
[04:59] <AkumAPRIME> CRT    -- Analog CRT monitor
[04:59] <AkumAPRIME> TMDS   -- Desktop flat panel ... so would a flat screen monitor be TMDS? or CRT?
[04:59] <rbil> SnowLprd: save a trip :-)
[04:59] <mister_roboto> Sensae: oh, I see :)  yes, you're right. hmmm a separate cron job that also checks for such cases? sounds a little messy. don't know if there's a built-in way to handle this with accounting turned on
[04:59] <DanaG> That'd be DFP
[04:59] <SnowLprd> rbil: perhaps not a bad idea.
[04:59] <allad> kmull, basically, you need to reboot under Linux and connect your drive.
[04:59] <DanaG> TMDS and/or LVDS are laptop panels.
[04:59] <rbil> SnowLprd:  added protection
[05:00] <AkumAPRIME> ah, I think I need to put that in Both devices... oh DanaG. ty, Ill change to CRT
[05:00] <DanaG> Are you using nvidia?
[05:00] <link_36p> what is the command to exexute them gnome dock?
[05:00] <Sensae> mister_roboto: I'm just not very sure how to setup cron jobs.
[05:00] <Alpha3> maddog39 - i posted another reply
[05:01] <Sensae> mister_roboto: And I'm getting tired of, at 23:00, ssh'ing, changing their password and doing a shutdown -r now to make sure they log out, lol
[05:01] <kmull> allad: so insert the usb and restart the laptop?
[05:01] <allad> kmull, then you'll try to mount the drive using cli. maybe you should reboot first under Linux and then we'll be able to tell you how to mount your drive.
[05:01] <ianmacgregor> Sensae: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/CrontabTutorial
[05:01] <kmull> allad: you have im?
[05:01] <linuxvampire> link_36p, gnome-panel
[05:01] <mister_roboto> Sensae: man 5 crontab
[05:01] <Rav|strangler> http://pastebin.ca/228564
[05:01] <A3on> Edgy rocks, but its not as rock solid as Dapper
[05:01] <allad> yep. msn.
[05:02] <Rav|strangler> could someone tell me how I get glib 1.2.0.
[05:02] <KooL4444> does the locate command only look in the current directory? how do i make it search through my hoole computer?
[05:02] <Rav|strangler> i mean GTK
[05:02] <allad> kmull, if you have a msn account, just give it to me. I'll add you.
[05:02] <Tompu> KooL4444: man locate
[05:02] <ianmacgregor> KooL4444: the locate command gets its info from the slocate database, which needs to be updated with: sudo updatedb
[05:02] <kmull> allad i've only got AIM :\
[05:03] <linuxvampire> which version of debian are dapper/edgy based on/
[05:03] <linuxvampire> ?
[05:03] <cyphase> does anyone else have a problem with ubuntu setting a hostname on their router? i can only access my computer from other computers by IP address
[05:03] <allad> kmull, lol. maybe a gmail account?
[05:03] <Tompu> KooL4444: slocate -U dirToSearchFrom
[05:03] <kmull> YES
[05:03] <wastrel> !info libgtk1.2
[05:03] <ubotu> libgtk1.2: The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10-18 (edgy), package size 817 kB, installed size 1772 kB
[05:03] <kmull> allad: kevinamulligan
[05:03] <calvarez> OFF-TOPIC: hello, someone in France could tell me what time it is there, please?
[05:04] <Rav|strangler> cyphase, what kind of rounter. Mine works outside the lan
[05:04] <mister_roboto> calvarez: try google "paris  france local time"
[05:04] <crimsun> linuxvampire: unstable/testing
[05:04] <cyphase> netgear
[05:04] <Tompu> calvarez: http://www.worldtimeserver.com/
[05:04] <linuxvampire> so its based on sid and etch?
[05:04] <cyphase> normal NAT router
[05:04] <linuxvampire> I was gonna triple boot with dapper+debian, wanted to compare em :P
[05:04] <debuser> exactly link_36p
[05:05] <A3on> calvarez, or google world clock
[05:05] <debuser> what a waste of time
[05:05] <debuser> linuxvampire,
[05:05] <linuxvampire> ")
[05:05] <A3on> blah
[05:05] <calvarez> ok, thanks a lot
[05:05] <DanaG> cyphase: look at /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[05:05] <DanaG> there's a send host-name option.
[05:05] <linuxvampire> whoa wtf, I just realized I asked two questions.
[05:05] <linuxvampire> :P
[05:05] <debuser> hei someone from spain?
[05:06] <allad> kmull, log on gmail. I've just sent you a chat invitation.
[05:06] <host`> hmm
[05:06] <debuser> someone wants a gmail account?
[05:06] <host`> lets check out edgy
[05:06] <Sensae> Ah, i've got it now. Couple questions, should I set up the crontab while logged in as root, and I'm not sure what command would log a different user out
[05:06] <link_36p> Does you know how i can diagnose hard lock ups when i log in?
[05:06] <ianmacgregor> debuser: I thought everyone had one by  now
[05:06] <wweasel> ianmacgregor: me too
[05:07] <debuser> oh
[05:07] <debuser> :(
[05:07] <myke> hey i cant get sound working for a Realtek ALC850 chip with ac97 codec
[05:07] <cyphase> DanaG, thanx.. but why doesn't it work by default?
[05:07] <myke> any thoughts?
[05:07] <debuser> someone wants a drikn?
[05:07] <wweasel> debuser, ianmacgregor: http://www.bytetest.com/
[05:07] <Rav|strangler> cyphase, check your logs see if it's logging the hits
[05:07] <shadowhywind> can anyone help me with creating a link to my swap partition?
[05:07] <ale[x] > linux-restrict pkg includes nvidia-kernel-common, is there a way to only remove nvidia-kernel-common and not the whole linux-restrict pkg?
[05:08] <DanaG> swapon?
[05:08] <mister_roboto> Sensae: well you could try killing everything that user is doing "ps -u <id>" will find all their processes
[05:08] <A3on> anyone know of the next version of  ubuntu will support encryption of the HD (version 7.0) something?
[05:08] <shadowhywind> swapon - a doesn't work
[05:08] <shadowhywind> swapon: cannot stat /dev/disk/by-uuid/073254cd-fc2c-4c5a-82cb-f651cd5f9bba: No such file or directory
[05:08] <mister_roboto> Sensae: or you can just get the shells, but they might work around that by linking a shell to some new name so you don't know to kill it :)
[05:09] <DanaG> hmm, edit fstab to not use uuid, perhaps.
[05:09] <Sensae> mister_roboto: My only user would most likely be unable to figure that out
[05:09] <shadowhywind> there i think i got it,
[05:09] <shadowhywind> i had to create a soft link
[05:09] <KJLM> anyone using gdesklets with edgy ?
[05:09] <Rav|strangler> how do I get gtk 1.2.0??
[05:10] <mister_roboto> Sensae: killall -u   :)
[05:10] <myke> any help would do
[05:10] <KJLM> when I use gdesklets it utilizes the whole memory
[05:10] <jessi> be right back
[05:10] <KJLM> is this a bug
[05:10] <Sensae> mister_roboto: Would it work to set up a crontab in root to passwd his account to something different, and then a crontab on his own account that logs him out at the certain time?
[05:10] <Sensae> and then obviously a crontab to change the passwd back
[05:10] <Sensae> erm, a cronjob in the same crontab for root I mean
[05:11] <Rav|strangler> how do I get gtk 1.2.0?
[05:11] <KJLM> anyone using gdesklets ?
[05:11] <mister_roboto> Sensae: don't put the crontab on his account, he'll just change it
[05:11] <mister_roboto> Sensae: do it as root
[05:11] <cyphase> Rav|strangler: do you know of any reason that the hostname isn't updated on the router?
[05:11] <cyphase> Rav|strangler: or is it a bug?
[05:11] <thrice`> Rav|strangler, search and install ?
[05:11] <abhinay> how to reset all user settings, back to default stage , (without creating a new user), shall i remove all ~/.*  folders ?
[05:12] <thrice`> abhinay, aye; user settings are in ~/.<dir>  ; but be very careful
[05:12] <mister_roboto> Sensae: root crontab, change password and killall -u
[05:12] <KJLM> hello
[05:12] <Rav|strangler> cyphase, I would make sure you have the most recent firmware, just make sure.
[05:12] <Sensae> mister_roboto: I really don't think he'd even know how to change the crontab. But wouldn't a killall -u leave him logged in, just no programs running?
[05:12] <KJLM> anyone here using gdesklets
[05:12] <Rav|strangler> make sure you set the host name for the computer
[05:12] <mister_roboto> Sensae: no, it would kill his running shells too
[05:12] <Sensae> mister_roboto: Ah.
[05:12] <cyphase> Rav|strangler: no, the router is working fine. and once i uncommented the line in dhclient.conf, my computer updated the hostname
[05:12] <cyphase> Rav|strangler: but it wasn't doing it by default
[05:13] <mister_roboto> Sensae: obviously, after you get it all set up, you're gonna want to test it :)
[05:13] <_goofy_> when you do a Alt+F2 to run a program how do you run it as root
[05:13] <rbil> cyphase: what line?
[05:13] <abhinay> thrice`, then how could i reset user settings ?
[05:13] <wweasel> Anyone have any insight on getting the side scroll on my trackpad to work?  Right now it just moves the mouse vertically or horizontally
[05:13] <Sensae> mister_roboto: just making sure, correct format would be killall -u <useraccnt> right?
[05:13] <mister_roboto> Sensae: yes
[05:13] <cyphase> rbil: #send host-name "HOSTNAME";
[05:13] <wweasel> *vertically, up or down. No horizontal
[05:14] <ade> Rav|strangler: Why don't you fire up synaptic, and search for libgtk?
[05:14] <_goofy_> when you do a Alt+F2 to run a program how do you run it as root
[05:14] <jhujhiti_> Does the cursor in anyone else's gnome-terminal flicker to the beginning of the line every time you type a character? Mine does until i run my bash profile, which has a colorized prompt...
[05:14] <mister_roboto> Sensae: try it. log in as some other user and do a killall -u <thatuser>
[05:14] <Rav|strangler> ade, I did search. I didn't find it :-(
[05:14] <cyphase> rbil: line 14 in edgy's version
[05:14] <mister_roboto> Sensae: from your other account, i mean :)
[05:14] <Rav|strangler> let me try libgtk
[05:14] <cyphase> i just uncommented it and changed the hostname
[05:14] <rbil> cyphase: in what file?
[05:14] <cyphase> /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[05:14] <E[m] ess> is acpi MEANT to kill teh edgy upgrade? it keeps failing and rpeventing me from getting kubuntu-desktop to isntall
[05:15] <cyphase> than i ran sudo dhclient, and it fixed it
[05:15] <_goofy_> when you do a Alt+F2 to run a program how do you run it as root
[05:15] <woro2006> anybody use R here?
[05:15] <debuser> hi _goofy_  sports _goofy_ ????
[05:16] <_goofy_> do what? debuster
[05:16] <Rav|strangler> it says I already have the package
[05:16] <Rav|strangler> but i still get this
[05:16] <Sensae> mister_roboto: One more question, for the crontab can I just put <number sequence> passwd (such and such) or should I put /usr/bin/passwd (such and such), or does it matter?
[05:16] <Rav|strangler> http://pastebin.ca/228564
[05:17] <AkumAPRIME> hmm, well that didnt qork :(
[05:17] <AkumAPRIME> work even
[05:17] <tuatara> can anyone help with a sound capture problem pls?
[05:17] <E[m] ess> is acpid a necessary part of ubuntu? it keeps failing when im upgrading but everyhing else is working, i get the eeror that everything is on newest version but ubuntu-desktop has an unmet dependany as does powermanagement
[05:17] <myke> when i do a alsamixer i have  no volume controls
[05:18] <ade> Rav|strangler: You need the dev package.  Install libgtk1.2-dev or whatever it's called.
[05:18] <bwlang> how can one find out what's scheduled for 'backporting' - i'm interested in subersion 1.4
[05:18] <mister_roboto> Sensae: you can just do usermod --lock
[05:18] <dougb> does anyone know how to change the background of a desktop in dapper w/ xgl?
[05:19] <mister_roboto> Sensae: that's best as he can't guess a password that you changed to. it's just locked
[05:19] <Sensae> ty
[05:19] <bwlang> dough: don't you just right click on an empty area of the desktop?
[05:19] <_goofy_> when you do a Alt+F2 to run a program how do you run it as root
[05:19] <mister_roboto> Sensae: usermod --unlock to unlock it at the allowed time
[05:19] <tuatara> ?
[05:19] <dougb> it didn't work for me
[05:19] <dougb> i've tried everything
[05:20] <wweasel> Anyone have any insight on getting the side scroll on my trackpad to work?  Right now it just moves the mouse vertically.
[05:21] <bwlang> dougb: did you try  "Change desktop background" ? does that even appear on your menu?
[05:21] <AngryElf> how can I get my windoze "tile horizontally" and "tile vertically" options from right-clicking the taskbar?
[05:21] <mister_roboto> wweasel: mine just started working without doing anything at all (dell laptop)
[05:21] <bwlang> dougb: you could also try system->preferences->Desktop background
[05:21] <dougb> yeah
[05:21] <dougb> i did
[05:21] <dougb> it all shows the desktop backgroudn i have, but the one i have now isn't the one i selected
[05:21] <wweasel> mister_roboto: it has to do with my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for sure.  And I know, it doesn't do my laptop right
[05:21] <dougb> maybe i have to restart GDM or something
[05:21] <dustin> hey can i upgrade from breezy to edgy
[05:22] <rbil> cyphase: thanks you've solved a nagging prob I had here with Client Host Name not getting into my router's DHCP table
[05:22] <wweasel> mister_roboto: I also have a Dell laptop, it doesn't even have a side scroll option, but ubuntu added one. I think it's awesome
[05:22] <wastrel> dustin:  no, you need to upgrade from breezy to dapper , then upgrade from dapper to edgy
[05:22] <mister_roboto> wweasel: and the driver you're  using has to support it, i suppose. but i don't know how to configure it. won't waste your time guessing :)
[05:22] <DaGame> l33t hax0r
[05:22] <strabes> wweasel: how did you get side scroll working?
[05:22] <bwlang> dougb: i doubt it.. try unzooming - or maybe your image is bad... try one of the default ones.
[05:22] <AkumAPRIME> Hey, the Screen Action preference. IT allows me to switch through desktops simply by touchng the screen sides, but I have to go into system, prefs, screen actions every time first in order to enable it. Anyway to make it permanent?
[05:23] <dustin> ok i tride doing the dapper to edgy   and my xauthority died  any ideas on that?
[05:23] <cyphase> rbil: it always annoyed me :P. my old router let you change hostnames on the router side, but this new one doesn't
[05:23] <wweasel> strabes: Huh? I am talking about 2 different laptops.  It works on my Dell D420, I would love it to work on my eMachines M6805
[05:23] <cyphase> rbil: so i needed a solution
[05:23] <dougb> huh
[05:23] <cyphase> rbil: i'm filing a bug right now
[05:23] <dougb> i did that "unzooming" thing and it worked
[05:23] <dougb> bwlang: what is unzooming?
[05:24] <Happy> hi
[05:24] <E[m] ess> anyone want to tell me how to configure acpid so kubuntu-desktop is fixed and i can finish my ugrade?
[05:24] <Sensae> Okay, that should work.
[05:24] <dougb> or the option in beryl is "zoom desktop"
[05:24] <Sensae> I'll find out tonight at 2300 ;)
[05:25] <bwlang> dougb: there''s a dropdown in the desktop background tool... you can choose to "zoom" your image to the full screen , or you can tile, center etc.
[05:25] <dougb> ohh i thought you were talking about beryl.  i changed the setting in beryl and it seemed to work
[05:25] <bwlang> E[m] ess : you're going to have to much more specific than that.
[05:26] <tuatara> quit
[05:26] <AkumAPRIME> how can I text edit my xorg.conf file from the recovery terminal?
[05:26] <dougb> maybe it was just a weird coincidence
[05:27] <Sensae> mister_roboto: Well now that that's set up I just have one more question. How can I keep his account from accessing the users and groups window? I've removed him from most of the groups, made sure he can't admin and such like that but his login can still access a lot of the admin tab, and he can change his own account to admin
[05:27] <E[m] ess> bwlang: this is what happens when it tries to configure acpid for kubuntu-desktop: http://rafb.net/paste/results/n3FKyt11.html
[05:28] <_goofy_> when you do a Alt+F2 to run a program how do you run it as root
[05:28] <ubuntugrrrrr> hey... i've got a few simple issues... i'm setting up a computer for linux on my friends computer, but i've forgotten how to install java and flash player....
[05:28] <cyphase> can someone check their /etc/dhcp3/dhcleint.conf file and give me the line that starts with #send host-name ?
[05:28] <ubuntugrrrrr> i've been trying for awhile but theres something I keep doing wrong...
[05:28] <bwlang> E[m] ess: yikes.. i suggest you try doing a manual install of acpid using dpkg -i /var/lib/apt/cache ...
[05:29] <Sensae> ubuntugrrrrr: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk sun-java5-plugin ?
[05:29] <ubuntugrrrrr> i havent tried that lol
[05:29] <E[m] ess> bwlang: is that the full command?
[05:29] <bwlang> E[m] ess: no - thus the ...
[05:29] <ubuntugrrrrr> so do... sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk ?
[05:29] <Laz45> Hello I have 1 unallocated space of 7GB and thats where I want to put Ubuntu... In the installer it has 2 options one is "Use the largest continuous free space" and the other is "Manually edit partition table" Which one do i choose??? I dont want to delete my Tiger Partition i'm scared :(!!!!!@@!@@
[05:29] <Sensae> ubuntugrrrrr: sun-java5-plugin if you want it to work with Firefox
[05:29] <ubuntugrrrrr> yes
[05:29] <Sensae> ubuntugrrrrr: But yeah, apt-get both those
[05:29] <bwlang> Laz45: use the manual edit
[05:30] <outRider> are xine, mplayer, etc supposed to take a minute or two to start playing a dvd?
[05:30] <Sensae> ubuntugrrrrr: Make sure it's set up to use universe and multiverse though
[05:30] <ubuntugrrrrr> it couldnt find the package :(
[05:30] <ubuntugrrrrr> man.. its wall after wall i keep hitting
[05:30] <Sensae> ubuntugrrrrr: Are you using edgy?
[05:30] <MindHack> How can I make the root partition to show up in df -h? Can I just copy /proc/mounts to /etc/mtab?
[05:30] <ubuntugrrrrr> no i dont even know what edgy is
[05:31] <Laz45> ok ill use manual
[05:31] <Sensae> ubuntugrrrrr: 6.10
[05:31] <ubuntugrrrrr> this is a brand new ubuntu install
[05:31] <mister_roboto> Sensae: if you lock the account, he's not gonna do ANYTHING because he won't be able to log in
[05:31] <ubuntugrrrrr> i'm using 6.06
[05:31] <E[m] ess> bwlang: any idea what teh full command is?
[05:31] <Sensae> mister_roboto: But I want him to not be able to touch those when he is and can log in
[05:31] <cyphase> can someone check their /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file and give me the line that starts with #send host-name ?
[05:32] <mister_roboto> Sensae: if you have given his account full sudo ability or somethig like that, then you can't do anything at all about it
[05:32] <ubuntugrrrrr> i'm not out of luck am i?
[05:32] <Sensae> ubuntugrrrrr: Well go to system > admin > the one under shared folders, it's called software sources for mine but I'm pretty sure it's something else in 6.06, it's software something
[05:32] <bwlang> E[m] ess: sorry - i'm not willing to hold your hand at that level... just look around in the area i pointed you to to see if you can find the acpid deb.
[05:32] <Sensae> ubuntugrrrrr: No, I did this today, jsut gotta change a few settings
[05:32] <ubuntugrrrrr> hmm
[05:32] <Sensae> mister_roboto: Well he doesn't have sudo ability, he does have su ability though I don't want him to
[05:32] <E[m] ess> ok, thanks
[05:33] <bwlang> E[m] ess: you might try to use "locate" (man locate) or "find | grep acpid"
[05:33] <ubuntugrrrrr> uhhh
[05:33] <Sensae> mister_roboto: I've taken him out of most of those groups but he can still access
[05:33] <ubuntugrrrrr> i'm under shared folders
[05:33] <ubuntugrrrrr> theres nothing there
[05:33] <Sensae> ubuntugrrrrr: Is shared folders at the bottom of the list?
[05:33] <ubuntugrrrrr> this room scrolling is distracting :/
[05:33] <ubuntugrrrrr> no
[05:33] <ubuntugrrrrr> users and groups is
[05:33] <mister_roboto> Sensae: can he su to root? (and do you a password on root?) if so, you can't stop him from doing anything
[05:34] <Sensae> mister_roboto: His account can, he doesn't know the root password
[05:34] <Sensae> mister_roboto: But i'm pretty sure he isn't part of wheel
[05:34] <Laz45> Hello on gparted my unallocated space doesnt have a name and its telling me where to create the / home partition and it has HD1, HD2, HD3, HD4 How would I know????
[05:34] <mister_roboto> Sensae: are you asking how to prevent him from running su?
[05:34] <Sensae> mister_roboto: I'm asking how to prevent him from getting into most of the administration windows
[05:34] <nalioth> hi ubuntugrrrrr join us in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like
[05:35] <Sensae> ubuntugrrrrr: Are you logged into a limited account atm?
[05:35] <mister_roboto> Sensae: he won't be able to admin if he's not in the admin group
[05:35] <mister_roboto> Sensae: if he is, remove that group
[05:35] <mister_roboto> Sensae: from his account i mean
[05:35] <Sensae> mister_roboto: He isn't in the admin group, but he can still get to about half the admin windows, especially users and groups
[05:35] <shadowhywind> i got my swap partition working, and i can hibernate now, But i can not come back from hibernate. Because the swap partition does not load while it is booting up any ideas?
[05:35] <Sensae> mister_roboto: Becaues he can access users and groups, anything I deny him to he can go and give access to himself
[05:36] <_goofy_> when mounting a hdd where do i specify the filesystem type
[05:36] <mister_roboto> Sensae: but he can't do anything without being able to admin
[05:36] <Sensae> mister_roboto: I've tried it, he can still change it
[05:36] <Sensae> mister_roboto: Say, he isn't in group admin, he can still go to system > admin > users and groups, and then change himself so he can admin
[05:36] <Sensae> mister_roboto: I've tried it.
[05:36] <VividHazE> hey everyone i typed in "sudo apt-get install amarok" and it didn't work, what gives? :)
[05:36] <hehe> hey guys..
[05:36] <hehe> I am tryig to compile mythtv from sources
[05:36] <Sensae> ubuntugrrrrr: You there?
[05:37] <bwlang> shadowhywind: if you're using dapper I think you have to modify the initrd to do the resume... there is documentation at suspend2's website.
[05:37] <_goofy_> when mounting a hdd here do i specify the filesystem type
[05:37] <hehe> and I am not able to satisfy the dependency
[05:37] <crimsun> VividHazE: enable the network repositories.
[05:37] <shadowhywind> i am using edgy
[05:37] <crimsun> hehe: instead of using the ones included in edgy/multiverse?
[05:37] <VividHazE> crimsun i enabled all repositores
[05:37] <mister_roboto> Sensae: what you say makes no sense. he can't just add himself to any group he wants, or make himself admin unless he's in the admin group already
[05:37] <crimsun> VividHazE: apt-cache policy amarok
[05:37] <Sensae> mister_roboto: I know it makes no sense but the system lets him
[05:38] <VividHazE> crimsun it says unable to locate amorak package
[05:38] <bwlang> VividHazE: "didn't work" is not helpful... to identify the problem one needs more specific information about what exactly happened...
[05:38] <hehe> guys.. I am not able to access this http://packages.freecontrib.org
[05:38] <mister_roboto> Sensae: then your /etc/sudoers has a huge hole in it
[05:38] <crimsun> VividHazE: because it's not 'amorak', it's 'amarok'
[05:39] <Sensae> mister_roboto: Dunno, it's been that way since I installed ubuntu yesterday
[05:39] <VividHazE> lol
[05:39] <wastrel> pastebin your /etc/sudoers
[05:39] <VividHazE> *goes red* oh yea...
[05:39] <hehe> guys. I just installed ubuntu edgy and not able to get myth-tv dependency
[05:39] <hehe> it seems some packages are missing or its not able to find
[05:40] <crimsun> hehe: why don't you use the packages in multiverse?
[05:40] <hehe> crimsum.. are u talking to me
[05:40] <hehe> ?
[05:40] <E[m] ess> im trying to upgrade form dapper to edgy and acpid is killing all my dependencies so i cant continue with the update, acpid wont configure, http://rafb.net/paste/results/n3FKyt11.html is the error
[05:40] <crimsun> hehe: yes, that's why your nick prefaces the question
[05:40] <VividHazE> Crimsun heres my output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29286/
[05:40] <slingo> hehe: did you uncomment the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list that allow for other sources
[05:41] <hehe> yes I did
[05:41] <slingo> and do an apt-get update
[05:41] <hehe> yes..
[05:41] <crimsun> VividHazE: so ``sudo apt-get install amarok''
[05:41] <VividHazE> i named amarok wrong in the paste but i done it again and its still wrong
[05:41] <crimsun> VividHazE: note that you misspelled amarok as amorak
[05:41] <hehe> silingo.. http://packages.freecontrib.org was not accessible
[05:41] <Sensae> mister_roboto: Hrm, nm, now it won't let him. Originally it let him access a lot of the menus he shouldn't
[05:41] <crimsun> VividHazE: then close aptitude/synaptic/update-manager/adept first
[05:41] <mister_roboto> Sensae: whatever   :)
[05:42] <VividHazE> but umm, yea i found it in Package manager now crimsun thanks :D
[05:42] <hehe> any idea what might be worng
[05:42] <VividHazE> yay! so thats all the programs I want on Linux working fine now :D
[05:42] <hehe> I am new to ubuntu
[05:42] <cyphase> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/dhcp3/+bug/69207
[05:43] <crimsun> hehe: apt-cache policy mythtv
[05:43] <hehe> crimsum, what does apt-cache policy does?
[05:44] <wastrel> apt-cache policy  prints information about packages on your ubuntu system
[05:44] <VividHazE> hey one last thing can anyone explain to me why when I make my monitor 1600x1200 its like you have to move the cursor beyond the edges of the screen to see all of it?
[05:44] <crimsun> hehe: it displays the possible candidates for downloading
[05:44] <thombone> grrr on my sony vaio laptop, even a clean install of edgy fails, during the install, crashes at 80%... back to dapper for me
[05:45] <VividHazE> crimsun any ideas?
[05:45] <mister_roboto> thombone: you might try installing from the alternate install cd if you have low ram
[05:45] <crimsun> VividHazE: by design.
[05:45] <hehe> is it possible to install paackages from dapper on edgy?
[05:45] <VividHazE> crimsun?
[05:46] <VividHazE> Then i call it bad design, i want it all on one screen!
[05:46] <VividHazE> :P
[05:46] <crimsun> VividHazE: then get another crt/lcd
[05:46] <gameman73> ok, just upgraded my laptop to edgy eft, and my X config got borked. Using fglrx, tried uninstalling both restricted drivers and fglrx and following wiki instructions and getting no where. modprobe fglrx gives me "FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx"
[05:46] <VividHazE> crimsun: but on Breezy Badger it didn't do this, on same monitor
[05:46] <Rav|strangler> Question..Can someone explain to me the .run file thing. like what I have to do to it to run it and why because I havn't gotten it and people just say do this
[05:46] <crimsun> VividHazE: did you check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[05:46] <VividHazE> crimsun, lol check it for what is the question...
[05:47] <VividHazE> :S
[05:47] <crimsun> VividHazE: Modes, VertRefresh, HorizSync
[05:47] <_goofy_> whats the command to mount a hdd
[05:47] <hehe> crimsum: I ran apt-cache policy mythtv and got multiverse and  debiam-multimedia
[05:47] <hehe> the other one I added
[05:47] <VividHazE> crimsun, ok will check, gotta go now! thanks for the help renaming amarok
[05:47] <VividHazE> :P
[05:47] <mister_roboto> _goofy_: oddly enough, "mount"
[05:47] <tacomantim> okay
[05:47] <crimsun> hehe: remove debian-multimedia, then apt-get update && apt-get install mythtv
[05:47] <babo> dapper's spelling check works for irc as well ?
[05:48] <henna_> lovely dad, a very good morning
[05:48] <babo> s/dapper/edgy/
[05:48] <Ash-Fox> How does one tell totem player to use a specific audio output device?
[05:48] <maxflax> Rav|strangler: put "sh" infront of it
[05:48] <tacomantim> does anyone know why a fat file system would only be accesible as root?
[05:48] <crimsun> tacomantim: pass it the appropriate umask
[05:48] <tacomantim> it is in fstab with umask=000
[05:48] <hehe> crimsum.. I don't want to install mythtv, I just want to install all the dependency so that I can compile by my own
[05:48] <wastrel> tacomantim:  is it mounted with the user flag?
[05:48] <crimsun> tacomantim: 022
[05:48] <mareks> windows crashed (surprise) and grub loader is giving me error 17! i need serious help, i have an interview tomorrow morning and i need a copy of my resume
[05:48] <wastrel> nvm
[05:48] <thombone> mister_roboto: 384MB of ram in it (maxed for that laptop)
[05:48] <Laz45> Its telling me where to install the / Home folder it could be HD1, HD2, Hd3, hd4????? I want it installed in the unallocated space http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4346/ubuntuac2.png
[05:48] <tacomantim> I know, I had it set up before
[05:49] <tacomantim> fstab hasn't changed
[05:49] <aquaducter> is there a way to get dvi to work with fglrx? I have a radeon 9200se and It seems others have had dvi problems. I didn't see any errors in my xorg log
[05:49] <mister_roboto> thombone: you might try doing the alt install anyway if you want to give it one last try. i had it work on some old machines when the live cd would not install. but those were low ram machines
[05:49] <gameman73> ok, just upgraded my laptop to edgy eft, and my X config got borked. Using fglrx, tried uninstalling both restricted drivers and fglrx and following wiki instructions and getting no where. modprobe fglrx gives me "FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx"
[05:49] <_goofy_> midter_roboto thats what i thought but i get the error:mount: you must specify the filesystem type........where do specify
[05:49] <Rav|strangler> maxflax,  that worked how come?
[05:49] <tacomantim> after a crash I sysrq-s and then sysrq-u then b
[05:50] <tacomantim> come back and thought it was corrupted
[05:50] <djmccormick> anyong managed to get the lighttpd package installed? it doesn't work by default. no one has helped me in the ubuntu forums, and no one here has ever even replied to this question before. when i install, the service isn't serving anything over port 80. i can't restart, reload, or stop the service in any way, and even uninstalling it requires some messing around. if i can't get lighttpd installed i won't really get any use out of my syste
[05:50] <tacomantim> but the root user
 diff - compare files line by line
 cmp - compare two files byte by byte
 What's the difference between those 2?
[05:50] <tacomantim> as well as windows
[05:50] <maxflax> Rav|strangler: good question. ask the developers :D
[05:50] <mister_roboto> _goofy_: man mount    (or add a line to /etc/fstab using the other lines for a guideline)
[05:50] <tacomantim> can see it
[05:50] <KurtKraut> There is a package refusing to be removed. How can I force its removal ? It is not allowing further installs of other packages.
[05:50] <tacomantim> try downgrading it first
[05:50] <Rav|strangler> of the .run file?
[05:50] <tacomantim> or dist-upgrade
[05:50] <Rav|strangler> what did the sh do?
[05:50] <Laz45> Its telling me where to install the / Home folder it could be HD1, HD2, Hd3, hd4????? I want it installed in the unallocated space http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4346/ubuntuac2.png
[05:50] <hehe> guys.. any help??
[05:51] <gameman73> Laz45: it looks like you still have to partition and format it
[05:51] <whishup> Anyone recommend a replacement for Nautilus? High CPU, slow network is making me dump this program.
[05:51] <tacomantim> anyone?
[05:52] <thombone> mister_roboto: were do I find that cd image please? didn't see it when I downloaded the edgy iso
[05:52] <tacomantim> this is half my space I can't use
[05:52] <ianmacgregor> whishup: gnome-commander ?
[05:52] <whishup> ianmacgregor: thx, checking into it.
[05:52] <henna_> good morning all
[05:52] <gameman73> i need help after upgrading to edgy,  X problems with fglrx
[05:52] <maxflax> Rav|strangler, sh is a command language interpreter
[05:52] <Laz45> gameman73: With GNOME Partitioner?
[05:52] <mister_roboto> thombone: http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/
[05:53] <gameman73> Laz45: im a kubuntu person, but i would imagine so
[05:53] <crys> whishup: thunar is gtk based (xfce) or something like xfmm/gnome-commander(?)
[05:53] <arthurgeek> Hi all! Is there a beryl for 64bits repo/
[05:53] <thombone> mister_roboto: thank you kindly
[05:53] <whishup> crys: This is Edgy Eft gnome, I've seen thunar around, I'll cehck that one as well.
[05:53] <blac> ngomong apa? gak mudeng aku!
[05:53] <mister_roboto> thombone: hmmm, well this is the official release dir. daily should be the same :)   http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/releases/6.10/release/
[05:54] <Rav|strangler> oh ok i'll look into it
[05:54] <tacomantim> any help for someone who can't use a fat partition as non-root even with the correct umask?
[05:54] <tacomantim> I'm at the end of my wits
[05:54] <arthurgeek> anyone here using edgy amd64?
[05:54] <sipher> just Like to say...
[05:55] <blac> What?
[05:55] <sipher> I'm an experienced linux user
[05:55] <Laz45> gameman73: ext3 format right? and do I have to split the partition up for the swap partition?
[05:55] <sipher> and god.
[05:55] <sipher> was that a painful upgrade
[05:55] <henna_> yep
[05:55] <gameman73> Laz45: yeah, ext3,  shouldnt have to split anything, just tell it to partition and format that free space
[05:55] <sipher> install a kernel compiled with gcc 4.1
[05:55] <sipher> yet...
[05:55] <sipher> gcc 4 is installed
[05:55] <Laz45> gameman73: Thankz :)
[05:55] <sipher> glx stuff..
[05:55] <gameman73> Laz45: np
[05:55] <sipher> tonz of problems related to X
[05:56] <sipher> good thing I know what I'm going.
[05:56] <sipher> Or i'd be one furious ubuntu user
[05:56] <sipher> :p
[05:56] <tacomantim> sipher, if you are experienced, riddle me this
[05:56] <sipher> shoot
[05:57] <tacomantim> why would a fat partition be inaccessible to non-root users if mounted with the correct umask
[05:57] <arthurgeek> Is there a repo for beryl 64bits?
[05:57] <tacomantim> as that's happening to me right now
[05:57] <sipher> tacomantim is it mounted read only?
[05:57] <ade> tacomantim: Look through /proc/mounts and show us the line you see for the partition you are having trouble with.
[05:57] <crimsun> tacomantim: what are the mount flags used?
[05:58] <tacomantim>  /dev/hdb1 /media/storage/ vfat umask=000 0 0
[05:58] <situmam> Hello guys. I figured out the problem with Intel-hda modules and lenovo laptops.
[05:58] <henna_> hi
[05:58] <situmam> Which progra is responsible for deciding the order and loading kernel modules in Edgy ?
[05:59] <sipher> Hehe firefox 2.0 is kinda cool.
[05:59] <crimsun> situmam: there's no inherent order imposed except for certain explicitly listed modules
[05:59] <sipher> but from what I read it's more of a nightmare than a ubuntu upgrade
[05:59] <arthurgeek> ok... now I got an 64bits-machine.. I installed Edgy 64bits, but experiencing my first lack of "personalized repos" that contains 64bits packages.. (the beryl one is an example)... should I stay with Ubuntu 64 or install Ubuntu 32? There's any loss of performancing/
[05:59] <situmam> crimsun: the list follows a certain order ?
[05:59] <henna_> What is Edgy??
[05:59] <crimsun> situmam: no order, only a mask.
[05:59] <fignew> when is ubuntu going to update the nvidia drivers... you know, the ones with the security vulnerability...
[06:00] <situmam> crimsun: do you know which file has this list please.
[06:00] <tacomantim> sipher, /proc/mounts is empty but I think mtab is equivalent (is it?)
[06:00] <crimsun> situmam: look in /etc/modprobe.d/
[06:00] <tacomantim> either way, it's the same line
[06:00] <arthurgeek> henna_, are your question about what's edgy serious? if yes.. it's ubuntu's new version codename
[06:00] <tacomantim>  /dev/hdb1 /media/storage vfat rw,umask=000 0 0
[06:01] <sipher> tacomantim no it's not...
[06:01] <henna_> thanks a lot for the information arthurgreek.
[06:02] <sipher> very similar.
 How can I redirect a already running program's stdout?
 I have a program thats running sending stdout to console, but I wanna direct it to a file?
[06:02] <sipher> and uhh
[06:03] <sipher> umask=000 is probably the problem.
[06:03] <mister_roboto> DaGame: i don't think you can since the file descriptor is already open.
[06:03] <sipher> mask sets the file mode creation mask of the invoking process to the given mode.
[06:03] <tacomantim>  /dev/hdb1 /media/storage vfat rw,fmask=0111,dmask=0111,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
[06:03] <tacomantim> that's the proc/mount line
[06:04] <tacomantim> and why would the umask be the problem
[06:04] <sipher> tacomantim let's test it l
[06:04] <situmam> crimsun: hmm.. nothing useful. If I want to file a bug regarding the order the snd_intel sound modules get loaded at, which package/component I should file it against you figure ?
[06:04] <tacomantim> but I mean, that is what it has been the entire time
[06:04] <crimsun> situmam: what's the problem?
[06:05] <sipher> mount -o rw -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /media/storage
[06:05] <situmam> crimsun: if I stop Alsa, unload all of the snd modules from my kernel and modprobe snd_hda_intel then start alsa sounds works on my lenovo laptop.
[06:05] <TheBigPencil> is there a way to  make my desktop icons smaller??
[06:05] <crimsun> situmam: no, start from the beginning. What happens on a fresh boot?
[06:05] <duckdown> Is there a way to grab this new Firefox 2 through apt?  I just heard about it now
[06:05] <outRider> does anyone know what happened to the plf? freecontrib.org has been down forever
[06:06] <sipher> yay xorg 7.1 is way better.
[06:06] <variant> duckdown: it is default on edgy release
[06:06] <djmccormick> anyong managed to get the lighttpd package installed? it doesn't work by default. no one has helped me in the ubuntu forums, and no one here has ever even replied to this question before. when i install, the service isn't serving anything over port 80. i can't restart, reload, or stop the service in any way, and even uninstalling it requires some messing around. if i can't get lighttpd installed i won't really get any use out of my syste
[06:06] <sipher> definitly notice a big boost in performance.
[06:06] <situmam> crimsun: of a fresh boot everything is there but no sound. alsaplayer give me an error.
[06:06] <TheBigPencil> what does the lighttpd package do?
[06:06] <blac> zeloow
[06:06] <maxflax> situmam, the notorius snd-hda-intel module..
[06:06] <duckdown> variant> I've got a dapper release i've been keeping up for a long time through updates... im at 1.5.0.7 and my system says there are no updates
[06:06] <tacomantim> sipher: no difference, just get a listing of it's root
[06:06] <situmam> crimsun: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261246&highlight=t60
[06:06] <blac> bluez
[06:06] <duckdown> it's an old installation
[06:06] <tacomantim> same as before
[06:06] <duckdown> How do I move to edgy?
[06:06] <ade> tacomantim: the dmask=0111 will prevent you from looking at directories.  Replace the umask=000 with fmask=000,dmask=000
[06:07] <situmam> maxflax: haha.. I see it has a reputation already :)
[06:07] <variant> duckdown: yeah, you will need a backport for that probably
[06:07] <blac> bad
[06:07] <sipher> tacomantim what are the permissions on the mount point?
[06:07] <TheBigPencil> Is there a way to make my desktop icons smaller and not so goddy?
[06:07] <sipher> chmod 777 /media/storage
[06:07] <Landon> Hey all, I am having a problem with my Firefox in Ubuntu. I just re-installed the previous version after getting a bad upgrade to Edgy, and everytime I try to go to a different site in Firefox, it just shuts down for no reason. I've tried to use Ephiphony, but the same problem happens. I can go to google.com, bash.org, and the homepage, but for a lot of other pages, it just shuts down. Anyone know what I can do?
[06:07] <blac> dsds
[06:07] <variant> sipher: that is a bad idea
[06:07] <situmam> maxflax: anything i can help out with . Bug report, logs... anything.  I wish to have my sound working
[06:08] <sipher> variant it can be locked down later...
[06:08] <sipher> also..
[06:08] <sipher> it's a desktop..
[06:08] <zanophol> Quick question...I just install 6.10 and grub made ubuntu the default boot partition...I want to change this back to windows, but I cannot seem to find a boot manager...have I missed something in the default install?
[06:08] <variant> tacomantim: do not do what sipher sugested
[06:08] <blac> what/
[06:08] <Pensa`MIA> is there a 386 kernel for edgy, because the generic kernel is not working properly with the nvidia drivers
[06:08] <crimsun> situmam: which lenovo?
[06:08] <sipher> variant so it will be writable by all...
[06:08] <variant> sipher: it doesnt matter, blatently stupid permissions ar just lol - go use windows
[06:08] <Laz45> gameman73: http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/442/ubuntu2rk5.png :(
[06:08] <variant> sipher: yeah read write execut
[06:08] <blac> nd 4 spd
[06:08] <situmam> Landon: I had that ones. Trashing my .mozilla folder in my home folder made firefox work fine. becareful though, you will lose all of setting, coockies, cache, bookmarks..etc.
[06:08] <sipher> variant you are on the wrong channel to be complaining about that.
[06:08] <variant> sipher: 775 is better
[06:09] <sipher> this is suppose to be linux for humans.
[06:09] <zanophol> anyone?
[06:09] <variant> sipher: linux for idiots? because that is what you are reccomending
[06:09] <blac> I am Quit
[06:09] <gameman73> Laz45: you you want /home to be on a separate partition?
[06:09] <tacomantim> it's the same
[06:09] <Landon> situman: Thanks, I'll give it a shot, and I just reformatted, so I didn't have anything anyway
[06:09] <variant> tacomantim: what is the same?
[06:09] <maxflax> situmam, I also have troubles with the same.. snd-hda-intel
[06:09] <Laz45> gameman73: Dont know :P I dont care i just want this think to work :)
[06:10] <gameman73> lol,  then your setup right now should work fine ;)
[06:10] <tacomantim> still only listing the root of the drive's dir
[06:10] <blac> crazy
[06:10] <babo> how do I change the timing on sudo, to give me 20mins instead of just 5 ?
[06:10] <situmam> maxflax: I know that unloading and load the snd modules fixes the problem... but I am looking for a more reliable fix :)
[06:10] <sipher> thats what it should do :p
[06:10] <crimsun> situmam: you need to answer my question before I can continue assisting you.
[06:10] <ade> tacomantim: the dmask=0111 that you found in /proc/mounts is what is causing your problem.
[06:10] <Laz45> gameman73: its not letting me go to step 6
[06:10] <variant> tacomantim: it's quite simple. i didnt realise it was a fat partition, fat doesnt support permissions so chmoding it makes zero difference
[06:10] <blac> rame 22222222222
[06:11] <situmam> crimsun: Sorry.. maybe I don't follow. what do you wish me to answer.
[06:11] <crimsun> situmam: which lenovo?
[06:11] <gameman73> Laz45: ok  you have a 7 gig system parition right now, thats what you want?
[06:11] <tacomantim> ade, how do you reccomend I go about fixing it
[06:11] <Laz45> gameman73: yes
[06:11] <chapolin> so i'm upgrading to 6.10 right. i come to think that i'm making this massive download, taking me aproximatly 90 minutes and if i ever need to format my pc... i'll have to download it again....
[06:11] <djmccormick> no one can give any insight to my lighttpd issues?
[06:11] <blac> hi ade
[06:11] <sipher> variant ugh. the mount point still maintains permissions.
[06:11] <tacomantim> I know about chmods/umasks and such, I just have no clue as to why it's not working
[06:11] <situmam> crimsun: it is a Lenovo 3000 N100 (dual core 1.66) exact model is: 07686KU
[06:11] <gameman73> Laz45: erm,  hfs+ filesystem?
[06:12] <Laz45> its a mac :P
[06:12] <crimsun> situmam: does it have a built-in modem?
[06:12] <sid> gdm is trying to load compiz, and it's fucking up and all I see is a tan background. How can I have metacity laod?
[06:12] <variant> sipher: he cant read the parition as a user he said
[06:12] <sid> metacity --replace & doesn't work, since I can't execute that in gnome, only in a virtual terminal, and it needs X
[06:12] <kupesoft> x86 on an AMD64 chip for software support (i.e. - flash, skype, etc) - worth it?
[06:12] <situmam> crimsun: yes
[06:12] <crimsun> situmam: is the modem enabled in bios?
[06:12] <sid> I can login to other users, only users with gnome-compiz-manager with "GL Desktop" check box checked I can't login to
[06:12] <zanophol> Anyone know what the boot manager is for 6.10? I do not have one by default
[06:12] <Bicchi> Is there a reason why all the custom kernels have been droped. I used to get the amd k8 kernel, now the only option is generic.
[06:12] <wweasel> I need some help with setting up mice in xorg.conf - I am trying to fix it so that my trackpad's sidescroll works. I managed that, but now my external mouse isn't being recognized...I can pastebin the old and the new if you like.
[06:12] <situmam> crimsun: I believe so. I have never checked.
[06:12] <gameman73> Laz45: ahhh ok,  well   crap,  your going to need to redo your system partition    linux will require 2, one for swap and one for system
[06:12] <crimsun> situmam: then enable it, please
[06:12] <zanophol> I know it is grub, but what is the gui tool?
[06:12] <crimsun> situmam: also, pastebin your ``lspci -vn''
[06:12] <Landon> situmam: Where is this .mozilla file again? Because there is nothing there in my home folder other than "Desktop" and "Examples"
[06:13] <rbil> djmccormick: why not go to that channel and ask the experts? /join #lighttpd
[06:13] <variant> wweasel: set the device to be /dev/input/mice
[06:13] <tacomantim> zanophol, try bum
[06:13] <kupesoft> x86 on an AMD64 chip for software support (i.e. - flash, skype, etc) - worth it?
[06:13] <zanophol> taco: did...not it
[06:13] <situmam> crimsun: do you have this the pastebin URL ?
[06:13] <ade> Use dmask=022,fmask=022  in the mount.  For example, you could say something like "mount -o dmask=022,fmask=022 /whatever /whatever"
[06:13] <crimsun> situmam: /topic
[06:13] <wastrel> Landon:  files beginning with  .  are hidden
[06:13] <Laz45> gameman73:  Yea thats what i told you before if i needed to break that 7 gig partition into two
[06:13] <kupesoft> x86 on an AMD64 chip for software support (i.e. - flash, skype, etc) - worth it?
[06:13] <kupesoft> x86 on an AMD64 chip for software support (i.e. - flash, skype, etc) - worth it?
[06:13] <wweasel> variant: done. the issue is with the "Protocol" I believe.
[06:13] <hockyhair> i am having problems with sudo apt-get install linux-dri-modules-`uname -r`
[06:13] <djmccormick> rbil: they tell me that issues with the package are the responsibility of ubuntu and not them and generally don't help.
[06:13] <situmam> Landon: any file that starts with . (period) is hidden.
[06:13] <variant> wweasel: chang eit to auto
[06:13] <sid> kupesoft: no, fuck proprietary software
[06:13] <hockyhair> it is not finding anything for me, and it is necc for aiglx i guess
[06:13] <sid> kupesoft: Use gnash/ekiga
[06:13] <Landon> wastrel/situmam: Ahh, didn't know that
[06:13] <gameman73> Laz45: sry, i wasnt paying attention to the partition format,  i thought the big partition was your system for some reason,  my bad :(
[06:13] <situmam> Landon: it is in your /home/<<your user name>> :)
[06:13] <variant> sid: please mind your language
[06:14] <variant> !language | sid
[06:14] <ubotu> sid: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:14] <kupesoft> sid: gnash sucks, though
[06:14] <Laz45> gameman73: no problem
[06:14] <sid> variant: sorry
[06:14] <hockyhair> i have repos uptodate as far as i know, and added the repos from the aiglx page i am looking at
[06:14] <wweasel> variant: auto-dev? When I do that the sidescroll on my trackpad doesn't work
[06:14] <sid> variant: You see my problem?
[06:14] <variant> sid: np
[06:14] <shah02> i have a usb hark disk and ubuntu won't let my write to it on my friends ubuntu computer, but my computer will... (i have edgy he has dapper)
[06:14] <rbil> djmccormick: well good luck getting help here. Who knows if anyone here uses that webserver, with apache being so common
[06:14] <wastrel> hockyhair:  linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:14] <wweasel> variant: to get that to work I needed to make it synps2
[06:14] <variant> wweasel: no, protocal auto
[06:14] <variant> wweasel: ok, you can have multiple entries
[06:14] <ade> zanophol: do you have /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[06:14] <situmam> crimsun: will be back.
[06:14] <variant> wweasel: just copy the entire input device section
[06:14] <zanophol> ade: yes
[06:14] <djmccormick> rbil: for ruby/rails development lighttpd is ideal. it's unfortunate that the package is broken and there's no help to be found.
[06:15] <variant> wweasel: and make a seperate one iwth synps2
[06:15] <Landon> situmam: I trashed the .mozilla folder, but the problem's still there
[06:15] <variant> Landon: what problem?
[06:15] <wweasel> variant: ok.
[06:15] <maxflax> I was wondering how do I serch for my network on a XP machine.. I have installed samba.. but how do I connect?
[06:15] <hockyhair> wastrel: ?
[06:15] <blac> ade what you problem
[06:15] <Landon> variant: My firefox keeps crashing
[06:15] <wweasel> variant: wouldn't I need to distinguish between the two somehow?
[06:15] <rbil> djmccormick: if the ubuntu package is broken why don't you just install from source and get help within that channel?
[06:15] <variant> wweasel: with the device and driver line yes
[06:15] <Laz45> gameman73: swap partition also ext3?
[06:15] <hockyhair> wastrel: what are you saying? to apt-get that first?
[06:16] <Landon> variant: I can go to certain pages like bash.org and the first page in google, but anything else it doesn't work, it just shuts down
[06:16] <blac> Ade Where do you live?????
[06:16] <ade> zanophol: that should be what controls grub.  Do you have an entry there for windows (I forget, were you trying to boot windows?)
[06:16] <gameman73> Laz45: no, swap should have its own filesystem
[06:16] <wastrel> hockyhair:  the package name is linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)  not linux-dri-modules
[06:16] <variant> wweasel: you should be able to use all the devices at the same time
[06:16] <raghu> how to download all the contents in the folder using mimms
[06:16] <screechingcat> Landon: what do u mean by anything els ?
[06:16] <djmccormick> rbil: yeah that's about where i'm at now. apparently it's still too obscure of a service to be well supported, which is alright i suppose.
[06:16] <hockyhair> wastrel: all the stuff i have found says linux-dri-modules..
[06:16] <wweasel> variant: can I show you have I have done in #flood?
[06:16] <variant> wweasel: sure
[06:16] <gameman73> does ANYONE know what the crap "FATAL:  Error running install command for flgrx" might mean?   fglrx refuses to work
[06:16] <hockyhair> there is nothing about restricted modules, and that is already uptodate
[06:17] <Landon> screechingcat: If I type anything in google, it'll just shut down, or if I go to my college home website, it'll shut down, or my online email
[06:17] <wastrel> hockyhair:  what version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:17] <hockyhair> wastrel: dapper
[06:17] <rbil> djmccormick:  hard to believe that no one in that channel will try to help you. package or no package, configuring it and getting it working shouldn't be beyond them
[06:17] <hockyhair> maybe my video card is not supported by aiglx
[06:17] <screechingcat> Landon: wierd ! try to just reinstall firefox
[06:17] <hockyhair> i have a 200m ati radeon
[06:17] <hockyhair> with fglrx
[06:17] <blac> what dapper
[06:17] <gameman73> hockyhair: support for that card sucks bad (first hand expirence)
[06:18] <hockyhair> xgl works on it
[06:18] <gameman73> barely
[06:18] <Landon> screechingcat: I just reformatted my computer and installed ubuntu again, how can I install firefox again without going online?
[06:18] <hockyhair> i hear that aiglx is the way to go though..
[06:18] <hockyhair> so possibly it is not avail for 200m yet?
[06:18] <gameman73> i dunno about aiglx, i just did xgl + beryl
[06:18] <situmam> crimsun: Wow... sounds works now.
[06:18] <ccooke> Landon: if you installed Ubuntu, you'll already have firefox
[06:18] <djmccormick> rbil: there's not so many people there. i'll screw with some stuff a bit more from the package in the case that i can figure it out and possibly write a tutorial on getting it working, otherwise it's back to apache for me :P
[06:18] <screechingcat> Landon: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get reinstall firefox
[06:18] <wastrel> hockyhair:  apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules    then apt-cache search linux-dri-modules    linux-dri-modules is the wrong package name :] 
[06:18] <azureal> hi, was wondering if anyone happened to recognize this error?   *** glibc detected *** xterm: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0x0809fc9c ***
[06:18] <situmam> crimsun: hehe... I wouldn't have figure that out in a million years :)
[06:18] <wastrel> hockyhair:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:18] <Quarupt> Hey can anyone tell me where i can get EasyUbuntu the official Mirror has been down?
[06:19] <azureal> ^ that occurs when i attempt to run xterm&
[06:19] <blerk> im tryign to get my laptop volume keys to work again, they worked on the livecd, but stoped working after upgrading to edgy, i reinstalled hotkey-setup, but i havwe no clie on how to get it working in gnome again :/
[06:19] <gameman73> does ANYONE know what the crap "FATAL:  Error running install command for flgrx" might mean?   fglrx refuses to work
[06:19] <situmam> maxflax: I enabled my internal modem and my sound works out of the box.
[06:19] <shah02> how do i change auto-mounted usb disk permissions??
[06:19] <tacomantim> ade: no dice
[06:19] <Quarupt> hockyhair, Thats what i wanna use EasyUbuntu for it is good with ATI/Nvidia drivers
[06:19] <Landon> screechingcat: E: Invalid operation reinstall
[06:19] <ccooke> gameman73: where do you see it? xorg logfiles?
[06:19] <wastrel> gameman73:  where are you seeing that error?
[06:19] <situmam> crimsun: thank you very very much.... I will add that the thread about the Lenov T60 and snd_hda_intel
[06:20] <blac> landopn
[06:20] <screechingcat> Landon: my bad. sudo apt-get remove firefox
[06:20] <Quarupt> So anyone EASYUBUNTU what happened to it?
[06:20] <screechingcat> Landon: and then sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:20] <ade> tacomantim: So what do you see now in /proc/mounts for the problem partition?
[06:20] <gameman73> ccooke and wastrel: during modprobe fglrx,  X isnt working unless i use the ati driver
[06:20] <Landon> screechingcat: Thanks, I'll try it real quick
[06:20] <paul__> is there a way i can kill a non responsive process
[06:20] <blac> You bad????????????
[06:20] <Quarupt> someone please help me?
[06:20] <wastrel> gameman73:  try sudo depmod -a
[06:20] <ccooke> gameman73: do you have linux-restricted-modules installed for your kernel?
[06:20] <gameman73> wastrel: tried that, but ill try again
[06:20] <Quarupt> :(
[06:21] <rawrness> how do you edit config files in command line
[06:21] <gameman73> ccooke: yeah
[06:21] <wastrel> gameman73:  did you reboot after depmod ?
[06:21] <tacomantim> weird
[06:21] <rseeber> hello
[06:21] <tacomantim> ade: /dev/hdb1 /media/storage vfat rw,fmask=0111,dmask=0111,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
[06:21] <ccooke> gameman73: try "find /lib/modukes -name fglrx.ko"
[06:21] <ccooke> gameman73: does it return anything?
[06:21] <Quarupt> Can someone please help with finding easyubuntu?
[06:21] <maxflax> situmam, congratulations! :D
[06:21] <gameman73> wastrel: is that needed?  ive been in console mode
[06:21] <blac> I can kill you!
[06:21] <macjunkie> I'm interested in becoming a mirrors site for ubuntu I don't see (probably missing it) link with information on how to becoming one. We have a gigabit link and about 400gb of space I can allocate.
[06:22] <Quarupt> *sigh* cn anyone even see me typing?
[06:22] <wastrel> gameman73:  i guess if you haven't been in X... couldn't hurt tho ;] 
[06:22] <tacomantim> google it I guess?
[06:22] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Quarupt about easyubuntu
[06:22] <gameman73> ccooke: no, but i dont think i have the restricted modules on right now  (ive been taking them on and off, give me a few seconds to get them back on)
[06:22] <ccooke> wastrel: won't *help* either
[06:22] <rseeber> I recently upgraded to edgy from dapper and i also just install beryl. When I try to use Terminal Service Client to remote desktop to my XP computer. It is all very light and hard to see and it's a little transparent, but the settings aren't as such
[06:23] <ade> tacomantim: It's definitely the dmask=0111 that will cause the problem you are seeing.  What exactly did you type on the command line?
[06:23] <ccooke> gameman73: you definitely want them on :-)
[06:23] <ajmitch> macjunkie: see the recent update on the launchpad-users mailing list, it has info about the new mirror infrastructure
[06:23] <wastrel> ccooke:  :] 
[06:23] <rawrness> playing with xorg config file if i screw it up how do i edit it in command line  ?
[06:23] <gameman73> ccooke: according to aptitude they are
[06:23] <macjunkie> otay will check it out
[06:23] <tacomantim> sudo mount -o dmask=022,fmask=022 /dev/hdb1 /media/storage/
[06:23] <ccooke> gameman73: do you see an fglrx.ko?
[06:23] <gameman73> no
[06:23] <Quarupt> Madpilot, I didnt get anything?
[06:23] <duckdown> I wanted to back up my entire home directory, and 'du' gave me '13654976' as the total number.  How much is this?  It's obviously not 13mb (bytes)
[06:23] <Madpilot> Quarupt, you should have gotten a PM from the bot
[06:23] <duckdown> is that 13 gigs, or 1.3gb ?
[06:24] <blac> Ade I can Kill you!
[06:24] <Quarupt> I didnt
[06:24] <Madpilot> ubotu, easyubuntu | Quarupt
[06:24] <ubotu> Quarupt: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ (currently down!); for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:24] <ajmitch> blac: please stop that
[06:24] <ccooke> gameman73: okay. apt-get --purge linux-restricted-modules-$( uname -r )
[06:24] <rawrness> !commandline
[06:24] <Quarupt> Madpilot, I said it is down how else can I get it, so telling me it is down again helps how?
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commandline - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <rawrness> !cl
[06:24] <huangzuobin> paul__:System-->Administration-->System Monitor
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <blac> i not close
[06:25] <rseeber> any ideas?
[06:25] <tacomantim> oh wait I think I have an Idea
[06:25] <gameman73> ccooke: invalid operation   o_O
[06:25] <Madpilot> Quarupt, missed when you said it was down - sorry. Frankly, easyubuntu doesn't do anything you can't to manually, and you're far better off doing it manually
[06:25] <ccooke> gameman73: apt-get install linux-generic (iirc; kernel names have changed in edgy and I'm not on my ubuntu box)
[06:25] <timfrost> rawrness: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:25] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell rawrness about cli
[06:25] <ccooke> gameman73: oops, my falt
[06:25] <Landon> screechingcat: Thanks, it worked ;)
[06:25] <rawrness> ahhh nano
[06:25] <rawrness> thats the command i am looking for
[06:25] <ccooke> gameman73: okay. apt-get --purge remove linux-restricted-modules-$( uname -r )
[06:25] <rbil> rawrness: you need to use a text editor like: vi, vim, nano ... I personally prefer joe which you can install using: sudo apt-get install joe
[06:25] <ccooke> gameman73: *then* do the install
[06:26] <rawrness> kk
[06:26] <gameman73> ccooke: errr  says its not installed o_O
[06:26] <screechingcat> Landon: no prob
[06:26] <paul__> ty
[06:26] <tensor> hello, i've setup an edubuntu with ltsp, i can successfully connect from a desktop client, however, my laptop can't seem to connect and dies while "mounting the root filesystem...."
[06:26] <blac> What kk
[06:26] <tensor> please help
[06:26] <rawrness> thanks i had to boot into windows afew times already to try to fix
[06:26] <Quarupt> Madpilot, Wish that was true but its not I have tried so many ways to set up my 3d accel and it just wastes time and doesnt work that script is the only way i have ever found to get my accel working
[06:26] <tec> is there synaptic in xfce?
[06:26] <ccooke> gameman73: right. do the install I suggested
[06:27] <blac> im crazy
[06:27] <Madpilot> Quarupt, ATI or Nvidia graphic card?
[06:27] <wastrel> tensor:  nobody awake on #edubuntu  ?
[06:27] <shah02> how do i mount my fat32 usb (/deb/sda1) with read/write support
[06:27] <Quarupt> So can someone maybe email me that screipt if they have a copy I really could use it
[06:27] <gameman73> ccooke: ook,  i dunno what was up with that oddness  but its going
[06:27] <Quarupt> Madpilot, Nvidia  have already tried all traditional ways
[06:27] <screechingcat> shah02: it will be automounted
[06:27] <ccooke> gameman73: what does uname -r say on your box?
[06:27] <shah02> screechingcat: it is gettin gmounted read/only
[06:28] <rbil> shah02:  it should just appear on your desktop when you plug it in and because it is mounted in  your userspace you should have rw support
[06:28] <gameman73> ccooke: 2
[06:28] <blac> you dead
[06:28] <gameman73> er
[06:28] <ianmacgregor> blac: Please stop being a nuisance
[06:28] <Quarupt> Anyone know an alternate place to get EasyUbuntu? Please?
[06:28] <screechingcat> shah02: maybe accessing as root will do the trick
[06:28] <gameman73> ccooke: 2.6.17-10-386   sry,  stupid enter button ;)
[06:28] <shah02> screechingcat: tried that from sudo nautilus and it doesn't work
[06:28] <ajmitch> hey mnepton
[06:28] <tensor> wastrel: there are some, just got no answer yet
[06:28] <shah02> screechingcat: i went to the properties and it said i don't have read/write support
[06:29] <mnepton> arr.
[06:29] <Quarupt> Anyone at all please i really need it?
[06:29] <blac> I Don't Stop
[06:29] <shah02> rbil: it's getting mounted ro
[06:29] <wweasel> Guys: If I have two mouse entries in xorg.conf, do they need to have different identifiers? This is ridiculous question, Iknow
[06:29] <screechingcat> shah02: fat32 is fully supported. look around in synaptic. maybe there are some programs which might help you. beyond that im useless. sorry
[06:29] <ccooke> gameman73: when the install has finished, reboot into that kernel
[06:29] <rbil> shah02:  you sure it's fat32 and not ntfs?
[06:29] <ccooke> gameman73: then try X
[06:29] <huangzuobin> shah02,using gnome for desktop?
[06:29] <ianmacgregor> Quarupt: Tried #easyubuntu ?
[06:30] <ccooke> gameman73: ok?
[06:30] <shah02> huangzuobin: yes
[06:30] <Quarupt> ianmacgregor, Yes
[06:30] <gameman73> ccooke: trying now
[06:30] <shah02> rbil: yeah it works on my edgy comuter
[06:30] <wweasel> If I have two mouse entries in xorg.conf, do they need to have different identifiers? This is ridiculous question, I am aware.  Also, is "CorePointer" only for my main mouse?
[06:30] <shah02> rbil: it is vfat (fat32)
[06:30] <Quarupt> Madpilot, whats a way to install Nvidia 3d with apt or synaptic?
[06:31] <sipher_> where's the smp love under edgy?
[06:31] <Madpilot> ubotu, nvidia | Quarupt
[06:31] <ubotu> Quarupt: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:31] <rbil> shah02, because it is a hotplug device it's being setup through udev. You'll probably need to edit the udev-rule for that device to have it mount rw.
[06:31] <sipher_> =/
[06:31] <ccooke> sipher_: explain?
[06:31] <dorto> my ubuntu has suddenly stopped playing audio(any audio)
[06:31] <Madpilot> Quarupt, the bot knows all ;)
[06:31] <dorto> what is the command to reconfigure audio? sth like dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver?
[06:31] <blac> I Want you heart
[06:31] <crimsun> sipher_: is -generic installed?
[06:31] <sipher_> ccooke I have a dual core cpu...
[06:31] <sipher_> crimsun I did an upgrade.
[06:31] <shah02> rbil: how can i do that, just tell me the config file and i can do the rest
[06:31] <ccooke> sipher_: the -generic kernel is smp-aware
[06:31] <sipher_> there's no smp kernel
[06:31] <shah02> rbil: like /etc/fstab (e.g)
[06:32] <cablesm102> Question: Due to Upstart hardware incompatibility, I can't upgrade to Edgy. Will I be stuck with Firefox 1.5 in Dapper?
[06:32] <sipher_> ccooke apparently not...
[06:32] <sipher_> I only have one cpu working.
[06:32] <ccooke> sipher_: there's no 686 or k7 kernel any more, either
[06:32] <rseeber> I am have a problem with Terminal Service Client with Ubuntu Edgy. Could anyone help?
[06:32] <sipher_> ubuntu royal broke this upgrade.
[06:32] <rbil> shah02: no, different thing. do man udev I think to learn more
[06:32] <sipher_> =/
[06:32] <ccooke> sipher_: well - I'm running edgy on two dual core and one smp box... it works
[06:32] <gameman73> ccooke: still no direct rendering
[06:32] <dustin> what is after edgy?
[06:32] <shah02> rbil: thankz
[06:32] <wweasel> Guys, could someone tell me what the option "CorePointer" means in xorg.conf?
[06:32] <sipher_> it was working with dapper prior to upgrade.
[06:33] <ccooke> gameman73: modprobe fglrx ?
[06:33] <variant> sipher_: the edgy generic kernel has smp support
[06:33] <thrice`> !edgy+1
[06:33] <sipher_> variant thanks :)
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgy+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <variant> !feisty
[06:33] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu will be codename Feisty Fawn it should be released in April 2007 and so have the release name 7.04. Until released it is beta. Today it is not even alpha. ;-)
[06:33] <ccooke> variant: what are you using to test this?
[06:33] <variant> ccooke: test what?
[06:33] <Koffa> hmm... what was that OODs about?
[06:34] <ccooke> variant: sorry, miskey
[06:34] <ccooke> sipher_: what are you using to test this?
[06:34] <gameman73> ccooke: well, THAT works now...  :)
[06:34] <blac> Where Do you Live? I can Kill you
[06:34] <ccooke> gameman73: now try X
[06:34] <wweasel> variant: Should both entries have Option "CorePointer", or just the touchpad one?
[06:34] <variant> wweasel: good question, try it on just one
[06:34] <sipher_> ccooke cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:34] <sipher_> the system ressources thing in gnome
[06:34] <rseeber> ?
[06:34] <ccooke> sipher_: okay. what does uname -r say?
[06:35] <variant> sipher_: type top, if smp then it should show two cpu's
[06:35] <cablesm102> Does anyone know if Firefox 2 will be released in the repos for Dapper? I'm sticking with Dapper for now, until I can figure out how to get my wi-fi card working in Edgy.
[06:35] <wweasel> variant: I am trying it. Restarting X...brb.
[06:35] <sipher_> variant I know.
[06:35] <sipher_> I just wanted to know where the smp kernel was..
[06:35] <gameman73> ccooke: X works, but still no direct renderin
[06:35] <sipher_> generic covers it :) we are cool.
[06:35] <gameman73> rendering
[06:35] <tacomantim> abe variant sipher: problem solved
[06:35] <tacomantim> and yes
[06:35] <ianmacgregor> cablesm102: I don't think it will be. This same discussion went on with firefox in Breezy when Dapper came out.
[06:35] <ccooke> gameman73: okay. did you install the xorg fglrx driver? check in synaptic
[06:35] <tacomantim> this name is designed to make me look like an idiot
[06:35] <blac> i wanted police
[06:35] <cablesm102> ianmacgregor, thanks
[06:36] <babo> ff 2.0 sucks
[06:36] <variant> sipher_: generic is the default edgy kernel
[06:36] <dustin> babo why?
[06:36] <gameman73> ccooke: i can replace synaptic with adept  (using kubuntu)
[06:36] <babo> where can I stop it opening a new window on every link ?
[06:36] <variant> sipher_: which is strange then that its not working for you but i have heard a couple of people say that
[06:36] <babo> dustin: the theme is kinda crappy IMO ...
[06:36] <cablesm102> Does anyone know how to get Upstart to load madwifi? It doesn't seem to be doing it by default because Edgy isn't recognizing my D-Link wi-fi card. Dapper recognized it out of the box, but I don't want to be stuck with it.
[06:36] <variant> sipher_: does uname -a say its smp ?
[06:36] <babo> the preferences are more complicated ...
[06:37] <sipher_> uname -a
[06:37] <sipher_> Linux sipher-laptop 2.6.17-10-386 #2 F
[06:37] <variant> sipher_: no SMP :(
[06:37] <sipher_> nope
[06:37] <sipher_> =/
[06:37] <sipher_> balls.
[06:37] <sipher_> first mega video problems.
[06:37] <gameman73> ccooke: according to adept (kubuntu) the package xorg-driver-fglrx is installed
[06:37] <sipher_> now this :p
[06:37] <sipher_> hah
[06:37] <variant> im off, night all
[06:37] <dustin> setting up my graphics card is a big pain
[06:37] <gameman73> night
[06:38] <Flash13> hehe I broke ubunut :D
[06:38] <Flash13> ubuntu*
[06:38] <sipher_> Flash13 ubuntu broke itself :p
[06:38] <sipher_> now fix it.
[06:38] <sanmarcos> why cant one add a custom application launcher to the panel in edgy?
[06:38] <Flash13> sipher_, nope I definatly broke it ;)
[06:38] <Seveas> sipher_, apt-get install linux-generic
[06:38] <blac> i crazy driver
[06:39] <Seveas> sanmarcos, one can
[06:39] <sipher_> Seveas apparently it was already instaled.
[06:39] <sanmarcos> Seveas: its set sensitive false here
[06:39] <Flash13> :D Anyone know a good way of fixing a bad sudoers file?
[06:39] <sipher_> linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic is already the newest version.
[06:39] <sipher_> linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic is already the newest version.
[06:39] <Seveas> sanmarcos, that is odd
[06:39] <Seveas> sipher, then reboot into it 
[06:39] <sipher_> tomorrow...
[06:39] <Seveas> choose the correct ernel when booting
[06:39] <sipher_> I know my video's gona choke again
[06:39] <Seveas> kernel*
[06:39] <gameman73> ccooke: X is complaining about a write combine range,  then complains that DRI isnt working
[06:40] <mjc> any reason why it won't boot on a mac pro? hangs after USB
[06:40] <concept10> anyone running beep media player x (2) on edgy?
[06:40] <sanmarcos> Seveas: can you add a custom one?
[06:40] <Seveas> !anyone | concept10
[06:40] <ubotu> concept10: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:40] <Lo_Pan> why would you run two
[06:40] <Seveas> sanmarcos, yes
[06:40] <sanmarcos> weird
[06:41] <Madpilot> blac, please stop posting random stuff to the channel... thanks.
[06:41] <sipher_> also...
[06:41] <sipher_> edgy disbaled automatic updates
[06:41] <sipher_> not a big deal. =/
[06:41] <gameman73> wait, WHAT?!   (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable....
[06:41] <hello_man> guys.. si this down http://packages.freecontrib.org
[06:42] <Seveas> hello_man, yes
[06:42] <concept10> Seveas, whats the address to your repo?  Im looking for bmpx for edgy.  They have a SVN repo but its for Dapper and it wants to upgrade libdbus.  Im trying to see if this will be risky
[06:42] <Seveas> !plf > hello_man
[06:42] <Flash13> :( I KOd my sudoers file, and root login doesn't work/exist, how can I fix it :(
[06:42] <hello_man> !plf
[06:42] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[06:42] <jdrake> My partition table has been screwed up some how. Have you guys ever seen something like this? http://rafb.net/paste/results/Oxnkb895.html  This seems to have happened in the last day. I have not ran any other software other than ubuntu.
[06:42] <Seveas> concept10, I don't have bmpX in my repo
[06:42] <mike_> Hey I just installed ubuntu so far I am impresed but apt-get is not working. any ideas to fix it
[06:42] <blac> Thanks!
[06:42] <sipher_> jdrake broken hd?
[06:42] <mjc> jdrake: no worries
[06:42] <mike_> can't find any packages
[06:42] <concept10> Seveas, what about audacious?  xmms and bmp have stopped working in edgy
[06:43] <mike_> How do I edit the repos
[06:43] <dustin> ha i am upgrading from breezy to dapper to edgy
[06:43] <jdrake> sipher, no - new harddrive, no more than 3 months old. Never had issues.
[06:43] <hello_man> Sevweas, then how do I get packages for mythv compile from sources
[06:43] <jdrake> mjc, it likes to mount sda5 as if it were an ntfs partition.
[06:43] <Seveas> hello_man, black magic
[06:43] <ccooke> gameman73: so X loads fglrx, but dri doesn't work?
[06:44] <Seveas> hello_man, that's why there are packages for it 
[06:44] <mjc> jdrake: wait
[06:44] <mjc> that's borked
[06:44] <itson> how do you auto start a service ( samba ) everytime you boot up?
[06:44] <mjc> jdrake: blow away everything and start from scratch
[06:44] <Seveas> itson, samba is autostarted
[06:44] <hello_man> seveas, I am new to ubuntu and was following guide which uses http://packages.freecontrib.org
[06:44] <mjc> windows, then give linux the rest of the drive
[06:44] <itson> thx Seveas
[06:44] <hello_man> when I do build-dep mythtv, its failing
[06:44] <gameman73> ccooke: it would appear so,    X's output mentions something about write combining and then says something about aiglx???
[06:44] <hello_man> qhat can I do
[06:44] <Seveas> hello_man, don't followthat guide then 
[06:44] <intelikey> can anyone tell me where the setting is, that will prevent device icons from appearing on the desktop ?
[06:44] <ccooke> gameman73: did you try to enable aiglx?
[06:45] <Seveas> intelikey, in gconf
[06:45] <gameman73> ccooke: no
[06:45] <jmdc> the networking widget lets you create configurations for multiple locations. Where do those other configurations get stored?
[06:45] <hello_man> Seveas: how do I compile mythtv from sources then on ubuntu edgy?
[06:45] <intelikey> k thank you Seveas
[06:45] <Seveas> intelikey, /apps/nautilus/desktop/icons_visible oslt
[06:45] <Seveas> hello_man, why would you want that?
[06:45] <ianmacgregor> intelikey: System Tools -> Configuration Editor, apps/nautilus/desktop
[06:45] <hello_man> becaue I want DVB support
[06:46] <dorto> how to configure audio in ubuntu?
[06:46] <mjc> jdrake: sda2 should be ext
[06:46] <hello_man> and I want mythtv
[06:46] <jdrake> mjc, Impossible to blow it all away. This is my actual install
[06:46] <crimsun> dorto: what sort of audio?
[06:46] <mjc> jdrake: then don't worry
[06:46] <dorto> crimsun, no sound when playing .ogg files
[06:46] <mjc> not worth fixing
[06:46] <jdrake> mjc, no that is a blank ntfs for windows
[06:46] <crimsun> dorto: what about mp3s or wavs?
[06:46] <dorto> crimsun, no, no audio for any file
[06:47] <crimsun> dorto: cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:47] <ccooke> gameman73: right. damn. I suggest you backup and regenerate the X config
[06:47] <hello_man> seveas, any furthur question or suggestion
[06:47] <gameman73> ccooke: done already, this is a plain default xorg.conf
[06:47] <mjc> jdrake: disk shows you are overlapping parititions. fix it
[06:47] <dorto> crimsun, 0 [Live           ] : EMU10K1 - SB Live 5.1                      SB Live 5.1 (rev.7, serial:0x80641102) at 0xd800, irq 185
[06:47] <Laz45> anybody has gotten this error when trying to install ubuntu "No NewWorld partition was found. The yaboot boot loader requires an Apple_Bootstrap partition at least 820KB in size."?????
[06:48] <crimsun> dorto: pastebin (don't flood here) the output from ``lspci -vn && amixer''
[06:48] <ccooke> gameman73: I'll have to bow out at this stage - I'm a thousand miles from my ati box, and online from a pda...
[06:48] <dorto> crimsun, it was playing audio when first installed. it suddenly stopped playing audio now.
[06:48] <dorto> crimsun, ok
[06:48] <gameman73> Laz45: errr it would appear that you need a 3rd partition,,,,, sry  (thats a ppc specific thing)
[06:48] <blac> i have problem
[06:48] <gameman73> ccooke: alright, thx for the help
[06:48] <mahyar> how do you put the trash icon on the desktop?
[06:49] <blac> i stessss
[06:49] <ianmacgregor> mahyar: System Tools -> Configuration Editor, apps/nautilus/desktop
[06:49] <wastrel> mahyar:  gconf-editor  apps > nautilus > desktop > trash_icon_visible
[06:49] <blac> hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooi
[06:50] <dorto> crimsun, output of both the commands you have said: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29296/
[06:50] <mike_> I'll come back later thanks
[06:50] <ianmacgregor> wastrel: ?
[06:50] <blac> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[06:50] <wastrel> ianmacgregor:  nothing, we gave the same answer but you were faster
[06:50] <mike_> anybody figure out dvdcss on ubuntu yet?
[06:50] <mahyar> thanks
[06:50] <ianmacgregor> wastrel: Ahh, hehe
[06:50] <noiesmo> hey all looking for an application to rescue data from floppy
[06:50] <blac> cart
[06:51] <ianmacgregor> wastrel: Gotta love the up arrow key in irssi
[06:51] <budluva> hey all, im reading a howto on bcm4318/ndiswrapper/edgy and im having a problem getting iwconfig to keep settings, i type sudo iwconfig eth0 essid MYESSID and then i check after to see if it saved the settings and it says ESSID: off/any
[06:51] <budluva> how come it wont let me set anything?
[06:52] <budluva> same thing with sudo iwconfig eth0 channel 6 it doesnt show any channel when typing iwconfig
[06:52] <blac> i need you
[06:52] <crimsun> dorto: amixer set 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack' on && amixer set 'Wave' 80% && amixer set 'Wave Center' 80% && amixer set 'Wave LFE' 80% && amixer set 'Wave Surround' 80%
[06:53] <mike_> dvdcss
[06:53] <crimsun> dorto: I presume you want sound from your Audigy by defalt.
[06:53] <crimsun> default, even
[06:53] <jmdc> Where does the network settings' dialogue box store different locations' configurations?
[06:53] <crimsun> dorto: (or Live)
[06:53] <wastrel> !ask | blac
[06:53] <ubotu> blac: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:53] <vook> ok, gnome screen saver is not letting me back into my system after it is locked.  This just started recently.  Is there a fix for this?  I've tested this over and over, with several different passwords (some 8 chars or less, only letters, some longer) and I've tried changing my password only with the gnome-user manager.  Anyone?
[06:53] <blac> you open sexocean
[06:53] <dorto> crimsun, yes, I want SB Live as default
[06:53] <outRider> is there a way to see the xorg.conf 'nvidia-glx-config enable' generates? the last time i ran it i couldnt start x, but manually editing xorg.conf worked
[06:53] <crimsun> dorto: execute those commands, then
[06:54] <blac> you crewet
[06:54] <dorto> crimsun, great, the sound is coming very well now :)
[06:54] <blac> and Brizik
[06:54] <Random_Transit> uhh...i just tried to upgrade to edgy and my install went asplodey
[06:54] <dorto> crimsun, thx, but will these settings persist if I reboot the system or do i have to put them in some config file?
[06:54] <duckdown> How can I go about creating an archive (like a tar) with a password on it, for use on another system?
[06:55] <crimsun> dorto: they are persistent. You can save them now: sudo alsactl store
[06:55] <Random_Transit> can anyone help me????
[06:55] <dorto> crimsun, ok, thx
[06:55] <blac> ye ye
[06:55] <manmadha> is there any software to download the entire site.......?(With links...)
[06:55] <rbil> blac: shouldn't you be spending your time defragging your Sea Drive?
[06:56] <noiesmo> manmadha, wget might help you
[06:56] <blac> i sexy
[06:56] <mike_> Does anybody watch dvd's on ubuntu?
[06:56] <noiesmo> yep mike_
[06:56] <manmadha> noiesmo, 1m i will try
[06:56] <ianmacgregor> mike_: yes, all the time
[06:56] <mike_> how did you install dvdcss?
[06:56] <blac> you like animal
[06:57] <Random_Transit> can anyone help me....i tried to upgrade to edgy my using the repos, and now ubu won't start...
[06:57] <mike_> or libdvdread?
[06:57] <chapolin> i would watch if i could configure my nvidia tv-out propoerly
[06:57] <Random_Transit> my = by
[06:57] <blac> my
[06:57] <mike_> chapolin, you don't need tv-out to watch dvd's
[06:57] <noiesmo> mike_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[06:57] <gameman73> ccooke: if your around, i fixed the direct rendering :)
[06:57] <wastrel> yay
[06:58] <blac> yay
[06:58] <mike_> noiesmo, thanks I will check that out
[06:58] <jmdc> sorry to spam the same question repeatedly, but where does the Network settings dialogue store configurations for multiple locations? Pointers to documentation are appreciated.
[06:58] <blac> oc
[06:58] <chapolin> yeah i'll just turn off my 32 inch tv to watch dvd's on my 15' inch monitor....
[06:58] <ianmacgregor> mike_: I did what noiesmo said and it worked here.
[06:58] <blac> rokeeer
[06:58] <manmadha> noiesmo, no it is not working......it is downloading only the current index page only.....I want to download entire site.....
[06:59] <wastrel> jmdc:  /etc/network/interfaces  (?)
[06:59] <noiesmo> manmadha, wget -r
[06:59] <vook> hmm, I'm wondering if someone who is using gnome and I fully up-to-date version of dapper would be so kind as to lock their screen with gnome-screensaver and then try to unlock it using their system password.
[06:59] <noiesmo> check the man pages there might be a tag to do links also
[06:59] <manmadha> noiesmo, okk i will try
[06:59] <ccooke> gameman73: Excellent. What was up?
[06:59] <wastrel> vook:  are you wedded to gnome-screensaver?  have you tried replacing it with xscreensaver?
[07:00] <manmadha> noiesmo, thank u working
[07:00] <Random_Transit> hello???
[07:00] <noiesmo> manmadha, np
[07:00] <noiesmo> hey all looking for an application to rescue data from floppy
[07:00] <mike_> noiesmo, hey I am new to ubunto and I can't get my repos to work can you point me in the right direction there too?
[07:00] <vook> wastrel, no, I'm not "wedded", at the same time though, I'd like to know if anyone else is experiencing this or if it is only me :)
[07:01] <noiesmo> mike_,  k one sec
[07:01] <Flannel> mike_: what do you mean by 'not work'
[07:01] <wastrel> vook:  i upgraded to edgy or i'd check for ya :] 
[07:01] <sphorbis> mike_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[07:01] <mike_> noiesmo, thanks Flannel it can't find any packages
[07:01] <noiesmo> mike_, my adsl is super slow at moe due to over downloading check this link http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_apt-get_the_easy_way_.28Synaptic.29
[07:01] <Dan_E> Hi.  I installed edgy on an external disk in the third (/) and fourth (swap) partitions.  When prompted by the installer I told it to setup GRUB for /dev/sda2.  I get a "No Operating System Found" message when trying to boot.  Have I done something very obviously wrong?
[07:01] <Flannel> mike_: alright, pastebin your sources list, /etc/apt/sources.list (open in any text editor)
[07:01] <gameman73> ccooke: you have to disable composition or something or other     (check https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17/+bug/58193 , reply #2)
[07:01] <dre_> is it safe to defragment my drive after ive resized it with gparted?
[07:02] <Flannel> dre_: what filesystem?
[07:02] <wastrel> gameman73:  that's in the wiki howto :] 
[07:02] <gameman73> wastrel: the wiki howto couldnt get fglrx working at all :P
[07:02] <wastrel> worked for me :]   after a bit of messing around
[07:03] <mike_> Thanks guys got to do some reading now thanks again
[07:03] <Random_Transit> can anyone here help me?????
[07:03] <budluva> is anyone able to answer an iwconfig problem?
[07:03] <dre_> i shrunk my ntfs partition and then made ext3,fat32,linuxswap partition in the unallocated space
[07:03] <budluva> its not letting me set any settings
[07:03] <Lam_> should i install linux-*-386 or keep generic?  my computer is a 686
[07:03] <wastrel> Random_Transit:  you have a hard problem that nobody wants to touch :] 
[07:03] <ccooke> Lam_: generic is the right kernel. -386 is a fallback that will work "everywhere"
[07:03] <Flannel> dre_: you should defrag your NTFS from within windows, ext3 doesn't need to be defragged
[07:03] <budluva> sudo iwconfig eth0 essid (myessid) doesnt set the essid, it shows as off/any
[07:03] <Random_Transit> rrgh
[07:03] <Lam_> ccooke: ok thanks a lot
[07:04] <JoseStefan> what should i use for a pentium 3 ?
[07:04] <gameman73> ccooke: what arch is generic built for?
[07:04] <wastrel> Random_Transit:  my dist-upgrade broke and i ended up installing fresh from an edgy install CD
[07:04] <ketsugi> Are there any Thunderbird 2.0pre packages for Ubuntu?
[07:04] <ccooke> JoseStefan: always use -generic, unless you have a problem with it
[07:04] <ccooke> gameman73: all of them
[07:04] <ccooke> gameman73: hence generic...
[07:05] <gameman73> ccooke: o_O    ok..  so it wouldnt be worth the trouble of getting a 686 kernel/
[07:05] <gameman73> ?
[07:05] <ccooke> gameman73: -386 is a kernel that should run on everything, without optimising for any arch, playing safe.
[07:05] <Lam_> that's pretty neat.  it got kind of irritating installing specific kernel architectures after a clean dapper
[07:05] <Flannel> gameman73: -generic is the 686 kernel
[07:05] <ccooke> gameman73: -generic contains optimisation for each CPU type - it autodetects.
[07:05] <Davo_Dinkum> Hi. Is XGL stable yet?
[07:05] <gameman73> ohhhh  ok
[07:05] <jmdc> wastrel: it looks like /etc/network/interfaces doesn't hold any information except for the settings for the current location. I want to find out where the other locations' configurations are stored. BTW, Thanks for responding.
[07:05] <Flannel> gameman73: linux-image-686 is obsolete, only still around for upgrade reasons
[07:05] <dorto> I don't get any results for "apt-cache search w32codecs"...how to play WMV files in ubuntu?
[07:05] <dorto> I have all repositories checked in Synaptic Package Manager
[07:05] <woro2006> hey everybody
[07:05] <Adross> When I try to start up, my computer runs a fsck, ending with the error/home: clean, 121232/23396352 files, 34104288/46769231 blocks
[07:05] <Adross> /dev/hdc1: clean, 6750/30539776 files, 42981626/61049000 blocks
[07:05] <Adross> fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=92d2a318-5ea6-40c0-854b-f1f2ed4dba48'
[07:05] <Adross> fsck died with exit status 8
[07:06] <Adross> whatever should i do?
[07:06] <woro2006> i just found out a way to download faster
[07:06] <ccooke> gameman73: because it uses optimisations, there *are* cases where -386 will work and -generci won't. They're not common, though
[07:06] <gameman73> Flannel: alright, thx for the info,   i didnt know you could autodetect optimizations
[07:06] <woro2006> i live in the us, so I change the sources.list to point to us.archive.ubuntu.com at first
[07:06] <woro2006> but it downloads at like 20kbs per second
[07:07] <woro2006> now, it downloads at 300kbs per second by using a mirror
[07:07] <KewlioWAP> Anyone around? :s
[07:07] <Adross> KewlioWAP: i am
[07:07] <wastrel> jmdc:  seems to be ~/.gnome2/network-admin-locations/
[07:08] <jmdc> wastrel: you are awesome.
[07:08] <wastrel> yay
[07:09] <Davo_Dinkum> Bye.
[07:09] <tarelerulz> Have any you use ntfs-3g?
[07:09] <decan_co> hayyyyy
[07:10] <Flannel> !restricted | dorto
[07:10] <ubotu> dorto: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:10] <Flannel> ketsugi: no, TB2.0 isn't in edgy
[07:10] <tarelerulz> I am just wonder if it lets you write to ntfs with with say nautilus
[07:10] <Flannel> ketsugi: seveas might have it, but I dont know
[07:11] <decan_co> hayyyyyyy
[07:13] <decan_co> hayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[07:13] <JairunCaloth> Hey, can someone help me out here, I'm stuck in a terminal. It looks like xorg didn't get upgraded in my dist-upgrade
[07:13] <JairunCaloth> but I'm not exactly sure how to upgrade it
[07:13] <jwise> hello world
[07:14] <jwise> I need help
[07:14] <Flannel> JairunCaloth: try 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[07:15] <jwise> after I reinstalled a new version of GTK, I can't put chinese into gaim windows by using SCIM
[07:15] <djmccormick> in this init script i'm trying to manually install in for lighttpd, there is a line that says: . /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions
[07:15] <PFA> oh my god guys so apparently at 1 AM today my compuz clock thought it was standard time day AGAIN and fell back a second time. SO i went into time settings and fixed it up and synchronized with teh servers, but it says if i want to AUTOMATICALLY synchronize it then i must get NTP support and there was a button that said "install NTP support" so i clicked it and it installed but now when i try to click AUTOMATICALLY synchronize it still says t
[07:15] <PFA> he same thing so what is wrong?
[07:15] <djmccormick> is there an ubuntu equivalent?
[07:15] <jwise> howerver I can use SCIM anywhere except gaim.
[07:15] <jwise> Do you know what's the matter?
[07:15] <JairunCaloth> flannel: 9 packages held back
[07:16] <keelbill> hi
[07:16] <jwise> thanks a lot
[07:16] <JairunCaloth> flannel: most of them are xorg packages
[07:16] <keelbill> i hate to be bothering people arround but maybe any of you can help me
[07:16] <keelbill> my screen resolution is locked at 800x600
[07:16] <keelbill> using ubuntu 6.10
[07:17] <keelbill> it was wroking fine the day before and now it is not working
[07:17] <keelbill> i had backup of the xorg.conf file and still i can't change it
[07:17] <dorto> how to kill the sound server? the sound from a youtube video got stuck at one point and it is not stopping!(ding...ding...ding...ding kind of sound)
[07:17] <larz3> jwise: dapper? edgy? what version of gtk?
[07:17] <keelbill> the gfx card is detected correctly as fx5500
[07:17] <jwise> larz3,edgy
[07:18] <jwise> and gaim2.0Beta4
[07:18] <jwise> before I reinstall GTK,it works Okay
[07:18] <JairunCaloth> flannel: why would it hold those packages back?
[07:18] <jwise> I wanna is there any configuration need to modify
[07:18] <PFA> oh my god guys so apparently at 1 AM today my compuz clock thought it was standard time day AGAIN and fell back a second time. SO i went into time settings and fixed it up and synchronized with teh servers, but it says if i want to AUTOMATICALLY synchronize it then i must get NTP support and there was a button that said "install NTP support" so i clicked it and it installed but now when i try to click AUTOMATICALLY synchronize it still says t
[07:18] <PFA> he same thing so what is wrong?
[07:18] <Flannel> JairunCaloth: I have no idea, I haven't even upgraded from breezy ;)  um, pastebin the errors, I'm sure someone knows something somewhere ;)
[07:19] <huangzuobin> keelbill,try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:19] <JairunCaloth> how do you copy and paste from a terminal?
[07:19] <keelbill> tried that already huangzuobin
[07:19] <keelbill> no luck
[07:19] <amir> highlight and press ctrl + c
[07:19] <amir> then right click to paste
[07:19] <larz3> jwise: if you right click in the gaim chat window input box, is SCIM Input Method listed as an option?
[07:19] <JairunCaloth> ...
[07:20] <JairunCaloth> that would be great if I had a mouse now wouldn't it
[07:20] <Flannel> JairunCaloth: hmm, or you'll have to pipe it to a file
[07:20] <JairunCaloth> but since x isn't running
[07:20] <amir> Sorry, I just joined this chat
[07:20] <amir> it took me too long how to figure out how to get into IRC since I could figure it out in GAIM
[07:20] <wastrel> copy and paste what?
[07:20] <Flannel> JairunCaloth: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > ~/errors.txt
[07:20] <JairunCaloth> nevermind I just redirected it
[07:21] <JairunCaloth> don't know why I did't think of that
[07:21] <wastrel> yay
[07:21] <jwise> larz3OMG
[07:21] <amir> Would it be too much trouble for someone to help me getting wireless on my laptop? I have a wired connection and need to go wireless
[07:21] <daywalker> help, please.I reinstalled ubuntu dapper o'er the w/end, but during installation got a ubuntu.security repository error.COntinued, but when it boots I cannot get on the net with firefox,
[07:21] <jwise> larz3,you are right
[07:21] <jwise> larz3,I get it, thanks very very much.
[07:21] <daywalker> apt-get update is the same
[07:21] <jwise> larz3,BTW,where are you come from?:P
[07:22] <larz3> jwise, maybe you have to re-run im-switch to set SCIM as default again
[07:22] <wiz> is there anything installed by default in ubuntu that blocks udp?
[07:22] <jwise> larz3,I've re-runned,and from other application it works fine, only gaim has problem.
[07:23] <wastrel> wiz:  not that i know of.
[07:23] <amir> what program is easiest for networking management?
[07:23] <daywalker> I reinstalled ubuntu dapper o'er the w/end, but during installation got a ubuntu.security repository error.COntinued, but when it boots I cannot get on the net with firefox,
[07:23] <amir> what program is easiest for networking management?
[07:23] <jwise> larz3,any way, it's just all right, thanks
[07:23] <daywalker> wont allow me to edit sytem files either
[07:24] <BOO> hii
[07:24] <BOO> all
[07:24] <huangzuobin> keelbill: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ,find Screen Section replace 800x600 with 1024x768 ,dangrous!
[07:24] <yoshiznit123> daywalker, does sudo work?
[07:24] <larz3> jwise, hmm. chinese input in latest development gaim is working fine on edgy here.  how did you go about upgrading gtk?
[07:24] <ketsugi> Is there any way to use scim in Firefox?
[07:24] <daywalker> is tghe ubuntu security repository for dapper down or altered??
[07:25] <keelbill> ok
[07:25] <KewlioWAP> I'm trying to compile a driver, but I keep getting a build error...
[07:25] <yoshiznit123> daywalker, and security repo is working here for me, check your sources.list
[07:25] <larz3> jwise, i don't know enough about im-switch + gtk + gaim to know how different gtk version would break it
[07:25] <Dana1>   --dist-upgrade, --dist-ugprade
[07:25] <Dana1>                         Try to run a dist-upgrade
[07:25] <Dana1> on update-manager --help
[07:25] <yoshiznit123> KewlioWAP, what's the error?
[07:25] <Dana1> nontice the misspelling
[07:25] <daywalker> yoshiznit this happened directly of an installation cd tho
[07:26] <willichan> Hello all
[07:26] <KewlioWAP> Please /msg me if you can help... I'm on a cell phone IRC client.
[07:26] <yoshiznit123> daywalker, maybe it was down during installation? have you tried apt-get update?
[07:26] <Lo_Pan> lol
[07:26] <huangzuobin> keelbill,after that restart your gnome
[07:26] <jwise> larz3,I download GTK2.10.6 from gtk.org,and make install it
[07:26] <willichan> I have a multi-boot question I am hoping someone can help me with.
[07:27] <Seeker2599> what is the difference between  FAT and NTFS?
[07:27] <willichan> I understand that Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu all share the same core.
[07:27] <DanaG> Big difference.
[07:27] <jwise> larz3,I don't think it's a problem now, because, i can input chinese now, thanks:)
[07:27] <anilomkar> How to install Weblogic server is Ubuntu drapper?
[07:27] <Flannel> Seeker2599: the structure, how stuff is written/allocated/etc
[07:27] <maxamillion> there appears to be a root user and i don't know the password, is this just something the system does or should i be concerned?
[07:27] <DanaG> NTFS has security and permissions, and only works in nt/2k/XP
[07:27] <daywalker> yoshiznit, apt-get update fails on the security repo, but not the others
[07:27] <Flannel> maxamillion: Ubuntu doesn't use root
[07:27] <Flannel> !sudo | maxamillion
[07:27] <ubotu> maxamillion: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:27] <Madpilot> maxamillion, root is locked by default for Ubuntu installs
[07:28] <Flannel> willichan: what's your question?
[07:28] <yoshiznit123> daywalker, paste the line with the security sources
[07:28] <wastrel> maxamillion:  that's normal, root user is necessary but it's disabled for login
[07:28] <DanaG> and it has typically been read-only in Linux.
[07:28] <maxamillion> Flannel: i know, but when i go to "users and groups" there is a root user and this is a fresh edgy install
[07:28] <DanaG> Oh, is there a way to prevent 'sudo passwd root'?
[07:28] <willichan> I would like to install all three on the same partition.  I have found several documents on multibooting, but not any that would show how to multiboot the three versions from the same partion.
[07:28] <willichan> Anyone tried this before?
[07:28] <Flannel> maxamillion: right, it's necessary for linux to function, but no one can log into it
[07:28] <Madpilot> maxamillion, yes, but the password is locked/scrambled
[07:28] <keelbill> huangzuobin, under screen section i have lots of values
[07:28] <maxamillion> ok, that's what i was wondering
[07:28] <maxamillion> thank you :)
[07:29] <Flannel> willichan: yeah, it's not multi-booting at all, you'll get to GDM (your login screen) and choose between the three
[07:29] <amicrawle> in BEOS how do i get my tcp printer to work ?
[07:29] <Seeker2599> ok, well my pc uses NTFS and the flash drive i just bought uses FAT will there be a problem transferring data between the two
[07:29] <keelbill> what is the exact option i should add?
[07:29] <KewlioWAP> I think someone asked what my error was... It's saying that some void value is not ignored as it ought to be.
[07:29] <amir> flannel, seems like you're the only one looking to help people, could you help me when you are free?
[07:29] <Flannel> willichan: they all install along side each other (on the same linux install) just fine
[07:29] <larz3> jwise, my edgy is already using gtk2.10.6
[07:29] <daywalker> yoshiznit, soz don't have it, im on another live cd at the mo.I'll get it & return.Was checking if the problem is elsewhere first, cause it the cd worked on another pc
[07:29] <Madpilot> Seeker2599, no. both win & *nix can read/write FAT32
[07:29] <phire> willichanL just install one, then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop
[07:29] <maxamillion> willichan: install one of them (probably just start with ubuntu) and then once it is installed, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop" and then you will be able to choose which to use at the login screen
[07:29] <Flannel> amir: there are a few of us, more or less depending on the time of day, best way to get help is just to ask your question, someone will answer if they know the answer
[07:30] <larz3> jwise, 2.10.6-0ubuntu1
[07:30] <amir> thanks
[07:30] <huangzuobin> keelbill,yeah,replace the one under Depth 24 and 16 ,i see
[07:30] <willichan> Flannel, Phire:  Thank you.  I knew I had to be missing something simple.
[07:30] <yoshiznit123> KewlioWAP, which kernel module are you compiling? it might be a compatibility error
[07:30] <amicrawle> in BEOS how do i get my tcp printer to work ?
[07:30] <Seeker2599> ok, say i want to use my flash drive to put an .avi file on my windows pc from ubuntu will it be ok?
[07:30] <amicrawle> i tryed appletalk
[07:30] <amir> I am having wireless networking trouble, I installed edgy but I cant find a wireless network manager to connect to my network. I am wired right now
[07:30] <amicrawle> the printer prints but give me errors
[07:30] <amir> can anyone help?
[07:31] <yoshiznit123> amir, are you using NetworkManager?
[07:31] <Flannel> amicrawle: shouldn't you be asking in #beos?
[07:31] <DanaG> how would you prevent 'sudo passwd root'?  Perhaps set root's terminal to /bin/false?
[07:31] <wastrel> amir:  do you see your wireless card in system > preferences > networking ?
[07:31] <amir> the program or the networking in systems?
[07:31] <amicrawle> yes
[07:31] <yoshiznit123> amir, and do you know if wireless card works at all? what type of card do you have
[07:31] <KewlioWAP> yoshiznit123, it's a driver for the Intel 536EP modem.
[07:31] <amir> I dont see the wireless card in system preferences?
[07:31] <wastrel> er, system > administration > netwroking.
[07:31] <amicrawle> and i have 3com card and hp4mp laser
[07:31] <amir> I have a broadcom 4318
[07:31] <wastrel> broadcom :] 
[07:31] <amir> I have done a whole lotta research into it, and I think it works
[07:32] <naxx> hi at all
[07:32] <DanaG> wow, I found a way to freeze bash for a while (don't try it anywhere but gnome-terminal or konsole):
[07:32] <DanaG> yes `yes`
[07:32] <naxx> can somebody help me build a package
[07:32] <Seeker2599> say i want to use my flash drive to put an .avi file on windows from ubuntu, will it be ok?
[07:32] <naxx> coz i got a strange problem
[07:32] <amir> I only see wired connect and modem connection in admin > systems > networking
[07:32] <firebird619> I just installed Beryl and I was looking to change the theme. When I went to Emerald Theme Manager it says I need the subversion package installed. Is that the exact name of the package that I would apt-get or get through Synaptic?
[07:32] <amir> no wireless
[07:32] <DanaG> wow, and it eats RAM too.
[07:32] <anilomkar> How to install Weblogic server in Ubuntu Draper...
[07:32] <jwise> larz3,can you leave a msn to me?thanks
[07:32] <amir> I only see wired connect and modem connection in admin > systems > networking, no wireless
[07:32] <wastrel> amir you have to do some configuration to set up your broadcom card
[07:33] <naxx> Requesting help on building a debian package|pm me pls ;)
[07:33] <amir> I have gone through a whole punch of different things in the forums
[07:33] <noiesmo> Seeker2599, yeah it should your usb normally format fat32 so ubuntu can write to it and windows can read
[07:33] <amir> oops, not punch, bunch
[07:33] <amir> let me find the stuff I went through
[07:33] <naxx> ||.Req.:||  Help on building a debian package |pm me pls ;)||
[07:33] <yoshiznit123> amir, ok you can either use ndiswrapper or fwcutter
[07:33] <yoshiznit123> !broadcom
[07:33] <Seeker2599> ok thank you noiesmo
[07:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:33] <amir> I used ndiswrapper
[07:33] <naxx> ||.Req.:||  Help on building a debian package |pm me pls ;)||
[07:33] <kishore> hi all
[07:34] <Neobeo> Ok, this is not a serious problem per se, but my ubuntu "pauses" every 2 seconds for no reason. For example if I move my mouse in circles, every 2 seconds the cursor will jump. This is also evident in the virtual terminal when I hold down any key (let's say 'A') it will pause for a while every 2 seconds.
[07:34] <DanaG> `yes` does it too.
[07:34] <Seeker2599> do alot of people have problems setting up wireless on ubuntu?
[07:34] <DanaG> not for my ipw3945
[07:34] <Neobeo> no, my wireless was set up efficiently
[07:34] <xinming> anyone here would give me a url for setting up ubuntu mirror?
[07:34] <DanaG> except for when the DHCP server didn't give me a gateway address.
[07:34] <amir> I have had a terrible time trying to get wireless up on ubuntu
[07:34] <DanaG> So I had to disable ipw3945 debug in my custom kernel.
[07:35] <Flannel> Seeker2599: wireless in linux has always been problematic for certain chipsets, because the hardware makers don't release specs for us to make drivers for, we have to figure them out via trial and error
[07:35] <amir> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285809, the forum topic is about setting up wireless on a broadcom 4318
[07:35] <lotusleaf> Seeker2599: that would depend on whether or not they bothered to look at the list of supported or recommended hardware prior to making a purchase. =)
[07:35] <DanaG> I guess I should be glad to have an Intel chipset.
[07:35] <Seeker2599> it worked fine for me, i plugged in my card and it worked
[07:35] <Seeker2599> click, connected
[07:35] <DanaG> Oh, does anyone have the HP DV9000z?  I'm wondering what chipset it has if you get discrete graphics.
[07:35] <Seeker2599> i guess im just lucky
[07:36] <keelbill> ok will try to reboot now
[07:36] <keelbill> brb and thanks for help in advance, i really hope this works
[07:36] <DanaG> I wish the Human metacity theme had the same colors as the Human-Ubuntulooks controls theme.
[07:36] <DanaG> Controls are orange, titlebar is brown.
[07:38] <naxx> ||.Req.:||  Help on building a debian package |pm me pls ;)||
[07:38] <DanaG> baah, nForce.. Ugh.
[07:38] <wastrel> xinming:   http://popey.com/Creating_an_Ubuntu_repository_mirror_with_apt-mirror    ?
[07:38] <amir> I had network manager on ubuntu but then somehow got rid of it, and now it will only show me wired connection choices
[07:38] <amir> I cant configure a wireless network
[07:38] <naxx> ||.Req.:||  Help on building a debian package |pm me pls ;)||
[07:39] <DanaG> Is your wireless kill switch enabled?\
[07:39] <amir> how do I look at that?
[07:39] <Landon> Hey all, anyone know how I can get the newer version of GAIM?
[07:39] <DanaG> Or is your module modprobe'd?
[07:39] <amir> DanaG
[07:39] <Flannel> !repeat  | naxx
[07:39] <ubotu> naxx: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:39] <DanaG> My notebook has a wireless toggle hotkey.
[07:39] <firebird619> What is the name of the subversion package I need to be able to change themes in Beryl's Emerald Theme Manager?
[07:39] <DanaG> the interface eth1 goes away when I disable it.
[07:39] <amir> I am using a Dell Inspiron 600m
[07:39] <amir> no wireless light
[07:40] <DanaG> Broadcom?  That's something I have no experience with.
[07:40] <hyeon> hmm..
[07:40] <amir> this is bugging the heck out of me, I went through forums and wikis for hours and think I finally found a solution, but nothing seems to come up
[07:41] <amir> anyone here using edgy and know much about wireless?
[07:42] <Neobeo> is the wireless device detected/installed?
[07:42] <amir> I ran Wireless Assistant and it says "No Usable Wireless Dev Found"ices
[07:42] <keelbill> :(
[07:42] <keelbill> still the same
[07:42] <keelbill> is there any option to force the resolution seting?
[07:43] <keelbill> setting
[07:43] <wastrel> amir:  your wireless device isn't configured.  you need to get ndiswrapper working before any of those nice network config tools will work.
[07:43] <amir> I had ndiswrapper 1.8
[07:43] <amir> oops, I have it
[07:43] <Flannel> !fixres | keelbill, have you tried this?
[07:43] <ubotu> keelbill, have you tried this?: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:43] <wastrel> amir:  is it configured properly?
[07:43] <keelbill> and about the   Option         "HorizSync"    "35-70"
[07:43] <keelbill>     Option         "VertRefresh"    "50-150"
[07:43] <amir> not that I know of
[07:43] <wastrel> i don't know anything about it because fortunately my card doesn't require it.
[07:43] <keelbill> is that the right way to set it under screen section?
[07:44] <wastrel> but you have to set it up and get your wireless hardware working before you can start worrying about network configuration.
[07:44] <xinming> wastrel: thanks
[07:44] <keelbill> Flannel, i tried that already
[07:44] <amir> how can I do that? or is it a long process?
[07:44] <keelbill> and sets the resolution to 600x400 :(
[07:45] <noiesmo> keelbill, here i'll post my xorg.conf 1 sec
[07:45] <keelbill> ok thank you
[07:46] <keelbill> weird thing is that my xorg.conf was working right i logged out 2 days ago
[07:46] <noiesmo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29308/
[07:46] <knoppix> hola
[07:46] <keelbill> and then this happened next day
[07:46] <AlienX> what's the command to set totem as default instead of mplayer? I'm using edgy
[07:46] <noiesmo> keelbill, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29308/
[07:46] <keelbill> thank i'll check that
[07:46] <noiesmo> i am running xgl and beryl nvidia card amd2500 keelbill
[07:47] <wastrel> amir:  i don't know what you need to do to get ndiswrapper configured properly, but if you start asking about it here maybe someone else can help :] 
[07:47] <ade> amir: do you know what kind of wireless card you have?
[07:47] <amir> broadcom 4318
[07:47] <amir> thanks for asking ade
[07:48] <LainNaomi> hey there
[07:49] <capt-rogers> does ubuntu have a theme for their ubuntu releases? Redhat uses bird names....
[07:49] <amir> yes
[07:49] <amir> dapper drake was 6.06
[07:49] <amir> edgy eft is the newest, 6.10
[07:50] <sally2> what's the command line statement to download a firewall for ubuntu?
[07:50] <SurfnKid> apt-get install firestarter
[07:50] <amir> ade, do you know much about broadcom 4318?
[07:50] <sally2> SurfnKid: thanks!
[07:50] <SurfnKid> anytime sally2
[07:51] <keelbill> noiesmo, yeah seems pretty much like the setup i used to have
[07:51] <keelbill> i will restart now
[07:51] <keelbill> brb
[07:51] <amir> anyone know how to turn left+right click into a middle click?
[07:51] <SurfnKid> sally2, are you a newb
[07:51] <ade> amir: Oh, yuck.  As wastrel said, you'll probably need ndiswrapper.  Broadcom refuses to support Linux.  I have heard of a project to reverse engineer drivers, but I don't know how far they have gotten, or how hard they are to get working with ubuntu...
[07:51] <sally2> surfnkid: yes to ubuntu, but not really to linux
[07:51] <sally2> the apt get thing I'm getting use to
[07:51] <kazaru> hello any one know why my cursor disappears when xserver is restarted?
[07:52] <amir> hmm, damnit
[07:52] <amir> well I will ask some college professors tomorrow if they can help me out
[07:52] <sally2> i wrote my own firewall, but it was a year ago and for a different machine and I don't want to figure it out, so I'm being lazy and I'l luse there firewall
[07:52] <lazo1> hello guys
[07:52] <lazo1> I do have a question
[07:52] <amir> but thanks for trying to help
[07:52] <SurfnKid> heh
[07:52] <Flannel> sally2: linux has firewall capabilities built into the kernel (called iptables), firestarter is just a GUI frontend to it
[07:52] <Vuen> question, if i shrink a vfat partition using gparted, is it automatically going to move everything so as not to lose any data, or is it just going to chop the thing off?
[07:52] <lazo1> when I do recive file from other by gaim program where does it go?
[07:53] <SurfnKid> there's a few other firewalls but firestarter has events and rules you can set up straight on, even an ICS
[07:53] <Vuen> *qtparted, not gparted, but i assume they're similar anyway
[07:53] <DaGame> How can I use wget to browse an ftp and download all the files from the folders I select?
[07:53] <sally2> flannel: yeah, i know that's what I used a year ago, but again, tired and lazy
[07:53] <ade> you might want to see if you can find some older wireless card that is better supported.  I used an old Cisco card when I last had a laptop with broadcom built-in...  It was slower, but it worked fine.
[07:53] <DaGame> Vuen, they both use the same libparted backend.
[07:53] <Vuen> yeah, i figured
[07:53] <SurfnKid> lazo1, /home/user/.gaim
[07:53] <amir> is there anyway I can view .wmv files in firefox or is .wmv part of the unlicensed formats?
[07:53] <lazo1> I see ..thanks alot
[07:53] <AlienX> any reason why video files wouldn't stream off  website in ff?
[07:54] <SurfnKid> np
[07:54] <DaGame> Vuen, I have no idea about shrinking partitions with that, but I assume it must warn you before deleting your shit.
[07:54] <keelbill> no luck all the options i have on screen resolution are 800*600
[07:54] <amir> I dont know why, firefox is saying I need to install a plug-in
[07:54] <keelbill> and 50 hrz
[07:54] <Landon> Hey all, anyone know how I can get the newer version of GAIM?
[07:54] <keelbill> where is it getting such values?
[07:54] <SurfnKid> !gaim
[07:54] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[07:54] <amir> but it needs a manual install, and windows doesnt have an installation for linux
[07:54] <Vuen> DaGame: i hope so. see, i want to convert my 180 gig vfat partition to ext3. it's got 130 gigs of stuff on it.
[07:55] <Landon> Thanks!
[07:55] <Vuen> so i intend to move off 40 gigs, then chop off half and convert to ext3, move everything over, then delete the vfat and grow the ext3 back to 180 gigs
[07:55] <Sensae> I'm running Edgy, I just downloaded the teamspeak 2 rc2 server, copied it to /opt, created a new user, changed the permissions and all that, but when I try to do a start-stop-daemon or even just ./server_linux it crashes with "Error starting daemon. Aborting"
[07:55] <Vuen> basically convert to ext3 in two halves
[07:55] <Vuen> think it'l work? or am i destined to lose 130 gigs of stuff?
[07:56] <amir> Is there anyway to play .wmv files in ff?
[07:56] <Vuen> amir: yep. mplayer-plugin
[07:56] <djmccormick> is there a shell variable to give the name of the current user?
[07:56] <Vuen> or vlc-plugin
[07:56] <djmccormick> or, command?
[07:56] <Vuen> and you need win32codecs
[07:56] <Danamania> djmccormick: id
[07:56] <amir> I tried the win32 codec, but it didnt install
[07:56] <thombone> oh man, edgy alt install cd can't find my cdrom (but the CD boots from it) go figure.
[07:56] <Vuen> what error message did it give?
[07:57] <Vuen> egad
[07:57] <Vuen> i just tried resizing a partition using qtparted, and it gave me a blank message box
[07:57] <Vuen> like literally an exclamation mark and an OK button
[07:57] <Vuen> that's worrysome
[07:58] <thombone> I give up on edgy, wiping and going back to dapper
[07:58] <thombone> maybe in a month or so
[07:58] <vixenk> how does one set keyboard shortcuts for applications? I've tried the whole mouse over and press the key(s) you want to use for the shortcut thing and it didn't work :-/
[07:59] <whishup> thombone, what chipset are you using?
[07:59] <vixenk> lol, i tried burning edgy to cd 3 times and still couldn't get it to boot... kept freezing while loading the window manager
[07:59] <wastrel> did you md5sum the iso?
[07:59] <DaGame> Vuen, Idk that's a hard one.
[07:59] <vixenk> yup, and checked the data on the cd after it was burned
[07:59] <amir> When I run sudo apt-get install w32codecs, I get a cannot install message
[07:59] <Vuen> well, i'm gonna try it.
[08:00] <vixenk> edgy just doesnt seem to like my box
[08:00] <DaGame> Vuen, I'll be very interested if you manage to do it.
[08:00] <Vuen> i'll backup anything important to my ext3 and ntfs partitions
[08:00] <DaGame> Yes, good idea
[08:00] <wastrel> try the alternate cd :] 
[08:00] <Vuen> urgh
[08:00] <Vuen> it's 2am, class at 8:30. should i try this now?
[08:00] <ke> Hehe
[08:00] <ke> Depends on the class :P
[08:00] <Vuen> cosmology
[08:00] <DaGame> Lol, I know the feeling
[08:00] <joako> hello...from los angeles,ca .......hey somebody knows how to change de boot splash from ubuntu
[08:00] <vixenk> i thought of that but i was pretty tired so i just installed dapper... edgy will have to wait for another day
[08:00] <ke> Urrr
[08:01] <ke> Probably better off with a nap then
[08:01] <ke> Hehe
[08:01] <Vuen> i just really don't like to leave things undone. i really want to do this now
[08:01] <Vuen> screw it, i'm doing it
[08:01] <DaGame> Go :P Just remember these things often take much longer than expected
[08:02] <amir> I tried the win32 codec, but it didnt install, it says there is no install candidate
[08:02] <Synner> Is there anyway to make Lynx download faster than 14/KiB
[08:02] <Synner> should not be goin so slow
[08:02] <wastrel> amir:  you have to enable the multiverse repository
[08:03] <amir> I tried the win32 codec, but it didnt install, it says there is no install candidate
[08:04] <netstar> I'm looking for an easy way to install xfce 4.4 without the xubuntu defaults.  Any ideas?
[08:04] <Vuen> netstar: sudo apt-get install xfce?
[08:04] <thombone_> netstar: can always install it alongside any of the versions
[08:04] <wastrel> amir:  you need to enable the multiverse repository in order to install the win32 codecs
[08:04] <wastrel> !multiverse | amir
[08:04] <ubotu> amir: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:04] <thombone_> netstar you do not have to make it the default or use the xubuntu-desktop scripts
[08:04] <timfrost> !w32codecs
[08:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:04] <Vuen> netstar: there's a way you can reconfigure what boot/login screens you want
[08:05] <netstar> Vuen thanks thombone_ thanks
[08:05] <Vuen> so you can install xubuntu-desktop, then reconfigure it to gnome
[08:05] <Vuen> hold on, i'll find you the command
[08:05] <thombone_> netstar: you're very welcome
[08:05] <netstar> install xfce4 works
[08:05] <netstar> well seems to be, and without the xubuntu shudder
[08:06] <Vuen> sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[08:06] <Vuen> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[08:06] <Vuen> that might work?
[08:06] <PFA> oh my god guys so apparently at 1 AM today my compuz clock thought it was standard time day AGAIN and fell back a second time. SO i went into time settings and fixed it up and synchronized with teh servers, but it says if i want to AUTOMATICALLY synchronize it then i must get NTP support and there was a button that said "install NTP support" so i clicked it and it installed but now when i try to click AUTOMATICALLY synchronize it still says t
[08:06] <PFA> he same thing so what is wrong?
[08:06] <thombone_> netstar: I also fel that xunubtu feels like an afterthought, and agree with you on that. I also am a big fan of xfce, it's very very fast
[08:06] <Vuen> take it with a grain of salt, hopefully your computer doesn't explode
[08:06] <towsonu2003> hi
[08:06] <netstar> brb gonna see if this works
[08:07] <Vuen> hey guys, what do you recommend for accessing ext3 partitions in windows?
[08:07] <timfrost> wastrel, amir, w32codecs are *not* in the standard repositories.  Seveas does have the installer in his repository (I am using the repository at http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl, but there are others listed)
[08:07] <halorgium> i'm trying to install edgy on my new box, i'm getting a busybox shell after seeing the cd menu
[08:08] <thombone_> as for me, here's what I've been through today: edgy upgrade failed (from dapper) horribly. So I downloaded the edgy install CD, booted from it, got a gnome-session-manager error on bootup, tried wiping and reinstalling, it locks while installing (of course) gnome-session-manager, SO I grabbed the alt install CD for edgy, IT boots from the CD, but then tells me it cannot identify my cdrom and cannot install
[08:08] <thombone_> I want to cry ;)
[08:08] <Vuen> :(
[08:08] <wastrel> !info w32codecs
[08:08] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (edgy-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:08] <towsonu2003> Vuen: I used to use this one: http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs
[08:08] <wastrel> so it would appear
[08:08] <thombone_> I lke living on the edge (moved here from #gentoo hehe) and hope I don't have to go back to dapper but it sure looks like it
[08:08] <amir> timfrost, I should go to the site you posted to get the w32codecs?
[08:09] <Vuen> towsonu2003: that can only read ext3, no write capability.
[08:09] <thombone_> I want to try to hammer on edgy and fill out bugs for the team and help out but have to get edgy to even install first
[08:09] <thombone_> anyway, that's my day
[08:09] <aladar1234> hi all!
[08:10] <halorgium> is the edgy livecd still a little buggy?
[08:10] <amir> hi aladar124
[08:10] <amir> aladar1234
[08:10] <aladar1234> hi amir
[08:10] <timfrost> amir, I have an entry as follows in /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ edgy-seveas custom extras seveas-meta".  Add that to sources.list, then 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install w32codecs'
[08:11] <towsonu2003> Voen: then this one? http://www.fs-driver.org/
[08:11] <aladar1234> i just finally got edgy work with my ati x700
[08:11] <towsonu2003> Vuen: but I wouldn't trust it (just like I wouldn't trust writing to ntfs from linux)
[08:11] <aladar1234> but how do i know if it uses the ati driver now and not the fglrx?
[08:11] <amir> you'll have to excuse me timfrost, I am really new to ubuntu and am having a little trouble understanding everything about it so far
[08:12] <amir> I am on the website you listed right now, should I enter deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas all into terminal?
[08:13] <towsonu2003> aladar1234: try this command and see what it gives: cat /etc/X11/xorg.onf| grep fglrx
[08:13] <host`> I think my computer is slower now
[08:14] <aladar1234> i have fglrx in the config
[08:14] <towsonu2003> then it's using fglrx :) or I misunderstood your question
[08:14] <aladar1234> i also have ati in it... but i have no clue if finally i could make the ati driver work...
[08:15] <timfrost> amir, 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'  then add the line I supplied to that file.
[08:15] <Zta> The last script executing when I boot my FRESH ubuntu-6.10-server installation says: * Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)   ..And that's it;  It doesn't say [ ok ]   or  [fail]     Is that normal?  What's wrong?
[08:15] <host`> I'm pretty sure edgy is slower than dapper was on my computer
[08:15] <Synner> What is the default LYNX Download location?
[08:16] <Zta> Synner, try it and see.
[08:16] <Synner> i already downloaded somethin.. i don't know how to find it
[08:16] <Zta> Synner, find it.
[08:16] <Synner> i wish I could
[08:16] <towsonu2003> aladar1234: can you copy paste your xorg.conf here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and send its link to me. I'm intrigued you've got both ati & fglrx in there :)
[08:16] <Zta> as in: find(1)
[08:16] <Synner> oh
[08:17] <Xzyx987X> ok, why is it after installing the compiz and compiz-gnome packages the compiz-start command still isn't availible?
[08:17] <Zta> Synner, or use updatedb/locate
[08:17] <Xzyx987X> cmon guys, I want to see some eye candy before I go to bed :P
[08:17] <digit> hi all
[08:18] <digit> i am new to this distro
[08:18] <amir> timfrost, it is telling me Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:18] <amir> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:18] <amir> is only available from another source
[08:18] <amir> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[08:18] <vixenk> I apologize for repeating myself but... how does one make keyboard shortcuts for applications? the normal method isnt working for me...
[08:19] <digit> could i get some answers here
[08:19] <digit> pls
[08:19] <Vuen> digit: you'll have to ask some questions first ;)
[08:19] <host`> you have t5o ask a question
[08:19] <towsonu2003> :)
[08:19] <digit> cool
[08:19] <towsonu2003> lol
[08:19] <Xzyx987X> so, if compiz-start  was located somewhere, where would it be?
[08:19] <digit> i have a problem with dvd
[08:19] <timfrost> amir, are you running dapper or edgy?
[08:19] <Vuen> !codecs | digit
[08:19] <amir> edgy
[08:19] <ubotu> digit: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:20] <amir> timfrost, edgy
[08:20] <kraut> moin
[08:20] <Vuen> does anyone else ever feel like ubotu makes things too easy? i mean, we don't actually need to know anything.
[08:20] <digit> i have installed seveal codecs and i want to know about the sources.list
[08:20] <digit> plf
[08:20] <Synner> ok find doesn't work
[08:20] <Synner> updateb doesn't work
[08:20] <Synner> locate doesn't work
[08:21] <timfrost> amir, and you added the line (inside quotes) as I supplied it to you?
[08:21] <mseve> !sound
[08:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:21] <Vuen> Synner: use find with grep
[08:21] <mseve> !volume
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about volume - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <wastrel> Vuen:  welcome to the age of search.  nobody needs to know anything anymore thanks to google, etc. :] 
[08:21] <Synner> Vuen: what you mean?
[08:21] <Vuen> Synner: what are you trying to find with find?
[08:21] <timfrost> digit, PLF have stopped supporting Ubuntu,
[08:21] <wastrel> why doesn't updatedb work?
[08:21] <Synner> ISPConfig-2.2.7.tar.gz, the file lynx just downloaded
[08:21] <amir> timfrost, which line? the sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list? I didnt know what line to add after that? I didnt understand how to enter it
[08:21] <Vuen> Synner: type find|grep ISPConfig
[08:22] <Vuen> go into your root folder first, then find it
[08:22] <Shadow_mil> where is the display manger conf file?
[08:22] <Synner> doesn't work?
[08:23] <Vuen> it doesn't return anything?
[08:23] <Synner> nope nothin
[08:23] <Vuen> then lynx didn't download your file, or deleted it after exiting.
[08:23] <Vuen> use links2 instead :p
[08:23] <Zta> Synner, 1) Start a shell terminal  2) cd /   3) find . -name ISPConfig-2.2.7.tar.gz
[08:23] <digit> its the libdvdreadcss2 that i need and cant get
[08:24] <devmodem> hi, i dist-upgraded to edgy and i'm not getting the usplash
[08:24] <ChrisNiemy> timfrost: PLF ubuntu will be back around edgy+1 it was shut down in june and the guys started back working in august. packages.freecontrib.org does have a dns/hoster problem at the moment.
[08:25] <Synner> returns nothing
[08:25] <Xzyx987X> ok, if no one can help me with compiz, could someone tell be how to set up konqueror to show all files by default?
[08:25] <amir> anyone know what happened to easyubuntu?
[08:25] <Vuen> Xzyx987X: View -> Show Hidden files
[08:25] <Shadow_mil> Where is the display manger config file?
[08:25] <towsonu2003> Synner: I just checked out how it downloads: it first downloads the file, then asks for the file name, then asks whether you wanna save it. if you save it, it saves the file to your working directory
[08:25] <ChrisNiemy> digit here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9
[08:25] <Xzyx987X> lol, how did I miss that...
[08:26] <ChrisNiemy> digit: just a few lines in terminal and you got the dvdlib for encrypted dvd
[08:26] <Vuen> Xzyx987X: try using beryl instead of compiz
[08:26] <Xzyx987X> ok, also, how do you set it up for single click select, double click open?
[08:26] <towsonu2003> Shadow_mil: I guess you're looking for /etc/X11/xorg.conf but what's the problem? why do u need it?
[08:26] <Vuen> Xzyx987X: go to #beryl and check it out. it's a fork of compiz.
[08:26] <timfrost> amir, start Synaptic (System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager).  Once in, follow menu Settings->Repositories->Third Party, and click Add.  In the dialog box paste "deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ edgy-seveas custom extras seveas-meta".  Click Add Source, then click Close in the first dialog box, then click the reload icon on the toolbar.
[08:26] <timfrost> t
[08:26] <Zta> Synner,  Let's try something positive:  1) touch /tmp/testtest1234  3)  find / -name testtest1234
[08:26] <Shadow_mil> towsonu2003: no I am looking for... maybe gdm
[08:26] <Xzyx987X> k, I saw it, but it was mentioned that it was a bit unstable...
[08:27] <Xzyx987X> but I'll give it a try
[08:27] <towsonu2003> Shadow_mil: what's your problem though? maybe we can find a better way to go :)
[08:27] <Zta> Synner, if that works, your file was never downloaded or you made a typo when searching for it.
[08:27] <Vuen> yeah. it's less stable than compiz, but it has more features
[08:27] <Vuen> and it's in heavy development
[08:27] <Vuen> whereas compiz is stagnant
[08:27] <Shadow_mil> towsonu2003: I installed xgl, and now I am setting it up to work
[08:27] <digit> whatthe problem is that package is not available
[08:27] <Xzyx987X> and if it actually works, it already has the edge :P
[08:27] <Vuen> :)
[08:28] <ChrisNiemy> digit: was it helpful?
[08:28] <timfrost> amir, that should make the repository with w32codecs available.
[08:28] <Vuen> Shadow_mil: remember, on default xgl, shift+backspace will log you out
[08:28] <digit> so the page was
[08:28] <Xzyx987X> ok what about the single, double click configuration thing?
[08:28] <ChrisNiemy> :)
[08:28] <Zta> gotta go
[08:28] <Vuen> mmm, not sur
[08:28] <Vuen> e
[08:28] <Vuen> hold on
[08:28] <towsonu2003> Shadow_mil: oopsiie, xgl and display manager at the same time is way out of my league
[08:28] <Xzyx987X> oh, and also, how do you set the login screen resolution/refresh rate?
[08:29] <digit> ok so i need to update my sources
[08:29] <Shadow_mil> Vuen: thats not the problem, the problem is when I start gnome, with the "theFuture" script thingy running, I have no bars
[08:29] <digit> to get that package then right?
[08:29] <Shadow_mil> my friend said I need to do this:
[08:29] <Shadow_mil> (02:07:51 AM) David:  gedit /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager
[08:29] <Shadow_mil> (02:08:05 AM) David: around line 130 or so it will say
[08:29] <Shadow_mil> (02:08:09 AM) David: DISPLAYMANAGER_XSERVER="Xorg"
[08:29] <Shadow_mil> (02:08:13 AM) David: make it Xgl
[08:30] <weedar> Is there no channel for Feisty Fawn?
[08:30] <dts> I just did the 6.10 upgrade and now there is no window decorations and gnome-panel
[08:30] <wastrel> weedar:  not yet
[08:30] <Shadow_mil> but he uses SuSE. and /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager does not exist
[08:30] <weedar> oh, ok wastrel. thanks
[08:30] <Shadow_mil> in ubuntu
[08:30] <amir> timfrost, I put that in, but it is giving me an error message of The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used.
[08:31] <amir> I will try it again, timfrost
[08:31] <maxxism> what kind of wireless encryption is Edgy using?
[08:31] <Vuen> can't find it :(
[08:31] <Vuen> sorry Xzyx987X
[08:31] <Xzyx987X> maybe there isn't a way, I dunno
[08:31] <Vuen> Shadow_mil: if you have no bars, try holding alt and dragging windows around
[08:31] <dts> what could be causing my gnome-panel and window managers to be gone?
[08:31] <Vuen> Xzyx987X: there's absolutely a way
[08:31] <Vuen> i just don't know it
[08:32] <Vuen> google :)
[08:32] <weedar> maxxism: what do you mean? It depends on what encryption the wireless network is using. Most drivers support WEP and WPA, some only support WEP though
[08:32] <Xzyx987X> what about the login resolution thing?
[08:32] <Vuen> it's something that is hotly debated about kde. there's definitely a fix.
[08:32] <Vuen> oh, that i don't know
[08:32] <Shadow_mil> Vuen: Xgl is not loaded
[08:32] <Vuen> Shadow_mil: ah. do you use gnome? or kde?
[08:32] <Synner> i think i just figured out my lynx problem.. wasn't hit d for download
[08:32] <Shadow_mil> I installed gnome, but I have both
[08:32] <Synner> :)
[08:32] <dts> could anyone help me?
[08:32] <Shadow_mil> I am going to use gnome for xgl
[08:33] <maxxism> weedar:  well I mean I only have a choice of a password in hex or ascii.  it doesnt say wep or wpa or wpa2  none of that
[08:33] <timfrost> amir, that mirror is working for me at present.  But you may find one of the other mirrors is preferable.   If you access the base URL in firefox, it gives a list of the mirrors.
[08:33] <Locke9> what is the default run-level for dapper?
[08:33] <Vuen> Shadow_mil: is your login screen the kubuntu one or the ubuntu one?
[08:33] <Vuen> Locke9: 2 i believe. same as debian.
[08:33] <Shadow_mil> ubuntu, I have gdm as my default
[08:33] <Locke9> ok, thought so, thx
[08:33] <Vuen> Shadow_mil: okay, then follow this guide, hold on:
[08:34] <Shadow_mil> Vuen: if its the one on ubuntuguild.com or what ever, I already have
[08:34] <Vuen> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/XGL
[08:34] <Vuen> follow that guide
[08:34] <weedar> maxxism: are you not able to logon when entering the correct password, then?
[08:34] <Vuen> it tells you what to edit
[08:34] <Shadow_mil> ok
[08:34] <Vuen> sorry i gotta run, but good luck
[08:34] <Xaphoo> I wish xplanet wasn't such a pain
[08:34] <Vuen> :q
[08:34] <Vuen> oops
[08:34] <maxxism> weedar not yet
[08:34] <Xaphoo> if I knew programming I would make a nice gui for it
[08:35] <amir> timfrost, it is telling me that it could not download all the repositories
[08:35] <amir> goodness, I wonder why I am having such problems with this
[08:36] <Shadow_mil> Vuen: I can't run aixgl...
[08:37] <boink> morning
[08:37] <qetesh> hello all. I just upgraded to Edgy and X won't start
[08:38] <qetesh> I get the black screen o' death
[08:38] <amir> timfrost, what country do you reside in?
[08:38] <qetesh> I was able to login to console & open up xorg.conf
[08:38] <timfrost> amir, New Zealand.  Why?
[08:38] <qetesh> is there a different driver than "nv" for my NVIDIA card?
[08:39] <amir> I was thinking that perhaps the mirrors work in correlation to how far you are from the servers, I am probably wrong though
[08:39] <maxxism> yeah wireless isnt working at all for me.
[08:39] <maxxism> i have tried changing my router from WPA to WEP  trying a passphrase and also hex.   no luck..
[08:39] <Lynoure> qetesh: a binary driver exists as well
[08:40] <ifrozen> hi
[08:40] <qetesh> Lynoure, do you recommend any modifications to xorg.conf?
[08:40] <mike1o> apparently GUI edgy upgrade doesn't work for me :(, can I upgrade from the terminal??
[08:40] <Green_Mage> Hello, I'm new to Linux and I'm having trouble installing the Lan driver.  I tried following the instructions provided with the driver -> unzip the tar.gz, goto the folder it was extracted to, type ./install.sh in the terminal.  Doing so returned a "Permission Denied" error.  Typing "sudo ./install.sh" returned a "command not found" error.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[08:40] <Lynoure> qetesh: you can get it at least from the Nvidia website (I'm not an Nvidia user myself)
[08:40] <Zta> Synner, So the tests worked =)
[08:40] <qetesh> mikelo, I just did apt-get dist-upgrade and upon reboot I have no X
[08:41] <Lynoure> qetesh: cannot say, I did not upgrade to edgy yet as it seemed too buggy to upgrade into out of curiousity
[08:41] <Synner> Zta: nah I just realised that I drank too many beers and was not paying attention at all
[08:41] <raghu> qetesh, can you paste the x warning and errors pastebin.com
[08:42] <Zta> Synner, you're welcome
[08:42] <qetesh> raghu, how do I get the errors up? I'm in purely console mode on the affected machine
[08:42] <raghu> type startx
[08:42] <qetesh> but at the moment enjoying full KDE on my laptop
[08:43] <raghu> qetesh,  startx
[08:44] <keelbill> !fixres
[08:44] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:44] <amir> Timfrost, thank you are all the help but I will be going now
[08:44] <amir> Thank you everyone who helped me
[08:45] <Xzyx987X> how do I set the permissions on a mount point to enable acess for users besides root?
[08:45] <seth1248> Unsuspecting it to be buggy, I just upgraded to edgy. Now I cannot even boot recovery. I keep getting: modprobe: fatal: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/modules.dep: no such file or directory
[08:46] <qetesh> raghu, my errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29323/
[08:46] <qetesh> I had to type them out manually
[08:47] <DaGame> When I use wget on an FTP url it generates me an index.html, How can I use this file to navigate the ftp and select what to download with wget?
[08:47] <mikeymike> where would i check for log files telling me why X wont start once i log into my username.. i type in my user and password at the ubuntu signin screen and it just blanks for a second then comes right back to sign in...
[08:47] <mikeymike> im running xorg-air
[08:48] <mikeymike> i just installed it and cant get it working i guess
[08:48] <kelten> whats the equivalent to 'ipconfig' in linux?
[08:48] <qetesh> ifconfig
[08:48] <dts> Help: metacity crashes every time I log in, where can i find debug output
[08:48] <KenSentMe> Anyone here that got the Lives video editor running in Edgy? I get some compilation errors and on the Lives website there's no edgy package yet.
[08:48] <seth1248> Xzyx987X: via /etc/fstab (unmask)
[08:48] <wastrel> mikeymike:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:48] <qetesh> can anyone make sense of this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29323/
[08:48] <mikeymike> wastrel: thank you
[08:48] <savvas> what is the alternative command for windows' copy /B file1 + file2 ?
[08:48] <mikeymike> i wont be able to see any other replies since im using consoles only
[08:49] <mikeymike> brb :) ctrl alt f1'ing :)
[08:49] <qetesh> raghu, got any ideas about this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29323/
[08:49] <KenSentMe> savvas: what does it do, i don't know the command
[08:49] <mikeymike> wastrel: does it matter if im running xorg or xorg-air? same log?.. also i havent uninstalled xserver-xorg would that explain something?
[08:50] <mikeymike> should i uninstall it? or can you have xserver-xorg-air-core and xserver-xorg at the same time
[08:50] <savvas> KenSentMe: it merges two or more files, useful with 7z sfx archives :)
[08:50] <wastrel> mikeymike:  not sure  just look around in /var/log i guess...
[08:50] <mikeymike> okay
[08:50] <mikeymike> brb then :)
[08:50] <KenSentMe> savvas: hmm, wouldn't know then
[08:51] <mikeymike> i have a Xorg.0.log and Xorg.20.log
[08:51] <kelten> How can I find out my lan address?
[08:51] <mikeymike> and other old ones
[08:51] <mikeymike> kelten: ifconfig -a
[08:51] <wastrel> 0 is the current one
[08:51] <dts> Is it possible to downgrade back to the old Ubuntu once you did the upgrade?
[08:51] <mikeymike> wastrel: whats the 2 prefix? old?
[08:52] <bioticpro> Anyone here use k9copy? I need help with it
[08:52] <savvas> KenSentMe: found it, it's done with cat :P
[08:52] <twinhelix> quick query: what's the best way to shrink a FAT32 filesystem that is (marginally) larger than its containing partition, causing GParted to choke with a warning?
[08:52] <mikeymike> ah well im gonna go read the logs
[08:52] <mikeymike> brb
[08:52] <KenSentMe> savvas: i thought of that, but i didn't know how to use it for your problem
[08:53] <firebird619> What package is needed to enable audio preview of audio files on mouse-over in Nautilus.
[08:53] <savvas> not sure, but i think this would help me: cat file1 file2 >> newfile
[08:53] <savvas> gonna try it
[08:53] <KenSentMe> savvas: good luck
[08:53] <savvas> thnx hehe
[08:53] <seth1248> Can anyone please help me? I just upgraded to edgy, but after reboot I cannot even boot recovery. I keep getting: modprobe: fatal: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/modules.dep: no such file or directory
[08:55] <Green_Mage> Hello, I'm new to Linux and I'm having trouble installing the Lan driver.  I tried following the instructions provided with the driver -> unzip the tar.gz, goto the folder it was extracted to, type ./install.sh in the terminal.  Doing so returned a "Permission Denied" error.  Typing "sudo ./install.sh" returned a "command not found" error.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[08:55] <mikeymike> i think i figured it out :)
[08:55] <mikeymike> brb
[08:55] <wastrel> yay
[08:55] <seth1248> Is there an IRC channel where users can get help with ubuntu?
[08:56] <timfrost> Green_Mage: what does the first line of the file look like?
[08:56] <Green_Mage> install.sh?
[08:56] <timfrost> Green_Mage: yes
[08:57] <seth1248> Anybody
[08:58] <seth1248> ?
[08:58] <wastrel> seth1248:  this is the ubuntu support chan
[08:58] <timfrost> Green_Mage: if it is a shell script, it should have something like '#!/bin/sh' or '#!/bin/bash'
[08:58] <Green_Mage> The first non-comment line is this: function message_status ()
[08:58] <Lynoure> seth1248: only if the person tells what they need help with
[08:58] <Green_Mage> Oh
[08:58] <Green_Mage> Here
[08:58] <Green_Mage> #!/bin/sh
[08:58] <heedly> Hello, the alternative 6.10 lists LVM/RAID partition as a feature. Does this mean the server and desktop partitioner doesn't do LVM/RAID?
[08:59] <seth1248>  Unsuspecting it to be buggy, I just upgraded to edgy. Now I cannot even boot recovery. I keep getting: modprobe: fatal: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/modules.dep: no such file or directory
[08:59] <seth1248> Any ideas?
[08:59] <seth1248> Do I have any options?
[08:59] <heedly> seth1248: sounds like the modules for that kernel didn't get installed.
[08:59] <heedly> do you have another kernel available for booting?
[09:00] <timfrost> Green_Mage: That first line looks OK. what driver software is it? Where did you get it from?
[09:00] <mikeymike> i guess not...
[09:00] <mikeymike> its saying the GLX modules aren't loading
[09:00] <mikeymike> i have nvidia....
[09:00] <dts> does anyone have issues with metacity not starting properly since the upgrade?
[09:00] <Green_Mage> Tim: It's a driver for my onboard LAN, I got it from my mobo CD's linux driver directory
[09:00] <seth1248> heedly: same happens when I try to boot my previously working kernel.
[09:01] <mikeymike> i dont know why my nvidia module isnt loading
[09:01] <frandavid100> hi guys, could you please give me a hand on getting compiz to work in a fresh edgy install?
[09:01] <mikeymike> glx module.....
[09:01] <frandavid100> I've already modified xorg to get aiglx working
[09:01] <heedly> seth1248: same message version?
[09:01] <squeee> frandavid100: go to wiki.beryl-project.org.  It has a great wiki for ubuntu.
[09:01] <karori> Hi. Do anybody knows how to empty the recycle bin from shell. (Not just deleting local ~/.Trash) ?
[09:01] <Green_Mage> timfrost: It's a driver for my onboard LAN, I got it from my mobo CD's linux driver directory
[09:02] <mikeymike> squeee: that wiki is unclear
[09:02] <frandavid100> the thing is I'm not trying to run beryl, squeee, just the official compiz
[09:02] <KenThomson> I got a question on Twin-View or Dual-Monitor, configuration, may i ask?
[09:02] <mikeymike> it tells to get dri modules for your uname kernel version
[09:02] <timfrost> Green_Mage: the error you got suggests that the script is trying to run a non-existent program.  What happens if you do 'sudo sh -x ./install.sh'?
[09:02] <aladar1234> re
[09:02] <squeee> mikeymike: It seems to be enough to get it set up.
[09:02] <mikeymike> the kernel version is .27
[09:02] <TheBigPencil> can you guys help me.... http://p.opsat.net/v/dybehj
[09:02] <mikeymike> i cant find the linux dri modules for that version
[09:03] <mikeymike> the last available is .26
[09:03] <squeee> frandavid100:aiglx or xgl?
[09:03] <Green_Mage> timfrost: couldn't tell you - I can't connect from Ubuntu to the internet, so I'm using WinXP right now.
[09:03] <frandavid100> aigls squeee
[09:03] <Green_Mage> timfrost: I'd have to reboot to check
[09:03] <frandavid100> aiglx
[09:03] <frandavid100> the thing is, I get no window decorations
[09:03] <firebird619> What package do I need to enable audio preview on mouse-over of audio files in Nautilus?
[09:04] <dts> frandavid100: me too!
[09:04] <grant> hi guys
[09:04] <mikeymike> how do i disable wh's joining and leaving in irssi
[09:04] <squeee> frandavid100:Nvidia or Intel?
[09:04] <frandavid100> nvidia
[09:04] <mikeymike> frandavid100: what kernel version ?
[09:04] <squeee> frandavid100: do you have the drivers yet?
[09:04] <frandavid100> sure
[09:04] <seth1248> heedly: When I try to boot to older kernel I get the same message, except with the older kernel version.
[09:04] <ketsugi> How well does uTorrent work under Wine?
[09:04] <frandavid100> everything seems to be ready
[09:04] <TheBigPencil> http://p.opsat.net/v/dybehj
[09:04] <squeee> mikeymike: if it's default edgy 2.6.17
[09:04] <mikeymike> hmm....
[09:04] <timfrost> Green_Mage: I am about to drop out, so won't be able to help any more.
[09:05] <heedly> seth1248: hmm, that partition is mounting correctly?
[09:05] <Green_Mage> timfrost: any suggestions before you go?
[09:05] <frandavid100> I followed the wiki page to modify xorg, get the dri module and stuff
[09:05] <grant> sorry to just jump in with a question but kinda need help with a couple of things, i'll start with the easiest one, just installed ubuntu 6.10 yesterday, need to get mp3's working, suggestions? cheers
[09:05] <KenThomson> I got a question on Twin-View or Dual-Monitor, configuration, may i ask?
[09:05] <wastrel> Green_Mage:  try changing #!/bin/sh  to #!/bin/bash  and see if it works
[09:05] <TheBigPencil> xmms
[09:05] <mikeymike> im in the same boat as he is
[09:05] <SavageNL> Does anybody know if there is a way to allow different resolutions than what "xrandr" shows? I have tried to edit my xorg.conf but it seems to have no effect :(. The resolution change option in gnome only shows 1 resolution (same as "xrandr")
[09:05] <mikeymike> im running dapper though
[09:05] <TheBigPencil> http://p.opsat.net/v/dybehj
[09:05] <timfrost> Green_Mage: no
[09:05] <Green_Mage> timfrost: ok, thanks for your time, tim
[09:06] <mikeymike> my glx isn't loading
[09:06] <gnarula> can any1 help me?? i have downloaded the i386 iso of edgy and now when i boot up the cd i get "invalid or corrupt kernel image" error
[09:06] <mikeymike> failed to initialize glx modules
[09:06] <mikeymike> glx module*
[09:06] <mikeymike> i dont understand :-
[09:06] <Green_Mage> wastrel: what will that do?  I'll have to reboot to check it - so I'm kinda hesitant to try it
[09:06] <wastrel> mikeymike:  ati?
[09:06] <mikeymike> wastrel: nvidia
[09:07] <mikeymike> i just did apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:07] <squeee> frandavid100:sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 compiz-gnome cgwd, if you get any missing packages tell me
[09:07] <mikeymike> nothing needed to be changed
[09:07] <grant> sorry to just jump in with a question but kinda need help with a couple of things, i'll start with the easiest one, just installed ubuntu 6.10 yesterday, need to get mp3's working, suggestions? cheers don't want to use xmms want to use amarok
[09:08] <mikeymike> squeee: you are familiar with that beryl wiki? for dapper? for aiglx? it tells you to download the linux-dri- for your kernel... but the repos i have dont have my kernel version which ends in 27.. the latest they have is 26
[09:08] <n1gke> Good morning everyone
[09:08] <grant> hi nlgke
[09:08] <frandavid100> it wants to install emerald instead of cgwd squeee
[09:09] <n1gke> Hi grant, having my first cup of coffee for the day.
[09:09] <raghu> grant, apt-get install amarok and its coders, decoders, plugins
[09:09] <squeee> frandavid100: have you altered your repos then?
[09:09] <TheBigPencil> Will u look at my compile error please??? http://p.opsat.net/v/dybehj
[09:09] <frandavid100> yep, but I reverted them to default
[09:09] <grant> hi raghu, got amarok but it says codec aren't working, not really very familiar with linux
[09:09] <squeee> mikeymike: I've only set up aiglx once for a friend, I usually do xgl.  Try to find some repos that have the .27 version, or if it comes to it make your own
[09:10] <mikeymike> squeee: how do i do that?
[09:10] <frandavid100> synaptic doesn't seem to find cgwd, could that be the problem?
[09:10] <mikeymike> what are the advantages of aiglx versus xgl anyway?
[09:10] <mikeymike> am i just wasting my time?
[09:10] <squeee> frandavid100: I honestly am not sure, i haven't set up the official one before, i like the borders to be skinnable
[09:11] <mikeymike> beryl works fine in xgl...
[09:11] <seth1248> heedly: good question; I formerly migrated ubuntu to a different partition, and since then, every time an update would install a new kernel I would have to manually edit menu.lst to change hd0,3 (where my ubuntu used to be) to hd0,1 .
[09:11] <squeee> mikeymike: you're running dapper?
[09:11] <mikeymike> squeee: yep
[09:11] <KenSentMe> Anyone here that got the Lives video editor running in Edgy? I get some compilation errors and on the Lives website there's no edgy package yet.
[09:11] <squeee> mikeymike: what does uname -r print out?
[09:11] <mikeymike> 2.6.15-26-386
[09:11] <mikeymike> i switched to 26
[09:11] <mikeymike> when i rebooted
[09:11] <KenThomson_> I got a question on Twin-View or Dual-Monitor, configuration, may i ask?
[09:11] <mikeymike> its usually 27
[09:11] <nemequ> Hi everyone. I was wondering if there is something I could do to keep you you from releasing ancient versions of libraptor in future versions... like maybe help maintain the package?
[09:12] <timhaughton> What is the default MySQL admin password on the LAMP server install?
[09:12] <frandavid100> hm... do you happen to know if there is an aiglx or compiz channel?
[09:12] <squeee> mikeymike, so you are selecting the older kernel to get beryl working?
[09:12] <mikeymike> squeee: where is my list of available kernels?
[09:12] <KenSentMe> KenThomson_: just ask your question, but there is a good forum topic about this on ubuntuforums
[09:12] <mikeymike> squeee: no actually it was workign fine on 27 with xgl
[09:12] <phire> tim: root, nothing
[09:12] <mikeymike> squeee: what im trying to do is use aiglx with 27 and the linux-dri module is missing from my repos i guess for that version
[09:12] <nemequ> frandavid100: you could try the forums on the beryl project's site.
[09:12] <KenThomson_> KenSentMe: I am coming after searching the forums, but dont seem to find the answer to my question
[09:12] <squeee> mikeymike: the easiest way is to go into a terminal and type in sudo atp-get install linux-image- (press tab)
[09:12] <mikeymike> okay
[09:13] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. is there an efficiant way to build a repository DVD of sorts? I've got a computer at work w/out a network connection that I recently built (took it home, built and installed Ubuntu along with all the packages I "though" I needed) .. I would now like to update and install a few more .. can it be done okay?
[09:13] <mikeymike> geez there's a lot
[09:13] <KenSentMe> KenThomson_: well, it's my experience that replying to this topic helps getting my dual screen problems solved: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[09:13] <Xzyx987X> woot! beryl seems to be working
[09:14] <PFA> oh my god guys so apparently at 1 AM today my compuz clock thought it was standard time day AGAIN and fell back a second time. SO i went into time settings and fixed it up and synchronized with teh servers, but it says if i want to AUTOMATICALLY synchronize it then i must get NTP support and there was a button that said "install NTP support" so i clicked it and it installed but now when i try to click AUTOMATICALLY synchronize it still says t
[09:14] <PFA> he same thing so what is wrong?
[09:14] <KenSentMe> KenThomson_: but feel free to ask here
[09:14] <mikeymike> squeee: anyway im running -27
[09:14] <SavageNL> Does anybody know if there is a way to allow different resolutions than what "xrandr" shows? I have added the resolution I want to the xorg.conf file, but it seems to have no effect. The resolution change option in gnome only shows 1 resolution (same as "xrandr")
[09:14] <mikeymike> just right now im in 26
[09:14] <TheBigPencil> http://p.opsat.net/v/dybehj
[09:14] <mikeymike> because i thought maybe it would work
[09:14] <PFA> oh my god guys so apparently at 1 AM today my compuz clock thought it was standard time day AGAIN and fell back a second time. SO i went into time settings and fixed it up and synchronized with teh servers, but it says if i want to AUTOMATICALLY synchronize it then i must get NTP support and there was a button that said "install NTP support" so i clicked it and it installed but now when i try to click AUTOMATICALLY synchronize it still says t
[09:14] <PFA> he same thing so what is wrong?
[09:14] <Xzyx987X> looks great too, even better than the compiz livecd I tried
[09:14] <squeee> mikeymike: ok
[09:14] <mikeymike> just this once im in 26.... does that hurt anythign to boot into an older kernel?
[09:14] <mikeymike> i installed the dri modules for 26 so i figured if iw as in 26 it would work.... lol
[09:14] <seth1248> heedly: good question; I formerly migrated ubuntu to a different partition, and since then, every time an update would install a new kernel I would have to manually edit menu.lst to change hd0,3 (where my ubuntu used to be) to hd0,1 .
[09:14] <mikeymike> i was in 27 when i installed the modules tho.... does that matter?
[09:15] <EdgE87> is there a shortcut to switch tabs in XChat?
[09:15] <mikeymike> EdgE87: control page up and down
[09:15] <raghu> grant, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:15] <squeee> mikeymike: so normally you run 2.6.15-27-386
[09:15] <mikeymike> squeee: yes
[09:15] <mikeymike> and xgl+ beryl works fine
[09:15] <mikeymike> i wanted to be greedy and try aiglx with xorg-air-core
[09:15] <KenThomson_> KenSentMe: ok, so...i am having a nvidia fx 5200 128MB, graphics card, with a VGA output to which my current CRT is connected. I dont have any other output on my graphics card, but i do have the (defualt output) of the motherbod (which is currently empty), Now my questions is. Can i make two monitors work like this: One on the Graphic cards VGA, and the other on the Motherboards VGA?
[09:15] <squeee> mikeymike: you know the repositories are different for aiglx right?
[09:15] <mikeymike> squeee: i have no idea :(
[09:15] <mikeymike> i added one from the beryl wiki
[09:16] <Geoffrey2> is anyone in here familar with the Evolution email client?
[09:16] <mikeymike> i added http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org /dapper main aiglx
[09:16] <mikeymike> i just tailed it in irssi haha
[09:16] <mikeymike> i love /exec
[09:17] <squeee> mikeymike: first off, go reboot and come back in your normal kernel
[09:17] <mikeymike> squeee: do i have to change my existing repos?
[09:17] <mikeymike> squeee: okay brb :)
[09:17] <squeee> mikeymike you will have to
[09:17] <mikeymike> alright
[09:17] <menko> Hi, I'm trying to install the dev files of something, but this dependency problem is getting in the way. I traced the root cause of the problem and it seems to be libfreetype6-dev.
[09:17] <Synner> How do I list all devices that Are mounted/unmounted.. also.. if its unmounted how do I mount.. and if its mounted how do I unmount?
[09:17] <mikeymike> brb then i'll restore my xorgconf too and be in X
[09:17] <mikeymike> brb
[09:17] <menko> It says: libfreetype6-dev: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.1.10-1ubuntu2) but 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2 is to be installed when I try to install it
[09:17] <menko> Does this happen to other people?
[09:18] <KenSentMe> KenThomson_: i doubt that. The video signal is only sent to one card at once. So it goes either to your Nvidia card or your mb card, i don't think both will work.
[09:18] <jorik> Synner: to see al devices that might be mountable (not an easy task), browse through /dev. also try man mount and man umount
[09:18] <KenSentMe> menko: do you have external repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:19] <KenThomson_> KenSentMe: Than how about this: One output from the nvidia VGA card, and the other one from a REALLY REALLY ANCIENT PCI display card? Should it work this way?
[09:19] <raghu> menko, apt-get install force-all  libfreetype6-dev ( think before executing this)
[09:20] <menko> KenSentMe: I have the wine repo
[09:20] <Geoffrey2> menko, if you're installing something from one of the Debian repositories, my understanding is that they won't work under Ubuntu
[09:20] <boink> it's not a good idea, no
[09:20] <boink> then .. why do that?
[09:21] <mikeymike> good grief
[09:21] <mikeymike> i think i need to uninstall xorg-air-core
[09:21] <mikeymike> 2.6.15-27-386
[09:21] <squeee> why is that
[09:21] <mikeymike> squeee: because i am at the login screen and i sign in and it just goes right back to login screen
[09:21] <menko> Geoffrey2: I'm not, raghu: thanks, I will try that
[09:22] <KenSentMe> KenThomson_: it's the same setup. Your video information can only go to one card, wether it's a gpu on a pci, agp or mobo
[09:22] <maxxism> no PPC love from ATI.  I just tried to build the ATI driver for my mac.  didnt go so well.
[09:22] <mikeymike> squeee: any ideas why its doing that?
[09:23] <ketsugi> omg after all this time, 20 years of using PCs, and I've finally found out what the Scroll Lock key does
[09:23] <mikeymike> im not sure.. i mean obviously X is loading because ig et the ubuntu sign in screen.
[09:23] <squeee> mikeymike that doesn't sound like it's the xorg-air-core, but if you really thinkg it is then go to tty1 and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-air-core
[09:23] <mikeymike> but its kinda error-ish
[09:23] <KenSentMe> KenThomson_: you could ask this question on the forum topic i gave you, but i don't think it will work
[09:23] <menko> raghu: that doesn't work, it says: E: Couldn't find package force-all
[09:23] <maxxism> ketsugi:  what does it do?
[09:23] <mikeymike> squeee: the change session menu is all messed up... the text doesn't appear until i mouseover it
[09:23] <KenThomson_> KenSentMe: ok thanks anyways, bye
[09:23] <raghu> menko, apt-get install --force-all  libfreetype6-dev ( think before executing this)
[09:23] <ketsugi> It freezes console output
[09:23] <ketsugi> in a terminal
[09:23] <mikeymike> squeee: whats that command do? reconfigure?
[09:23] <ketsugi> so even if new lines are coming in, your screen doesn't move
[09:23] <squeee> mikeymike: it clears config files and tries again
[09:23] <ketsugi> not that useful in GUI consoles
[09:23] <menko> raghu: E: Command line option --force-all is not understood
[09:23] <ketsugi> but still
[09:24] <Geoffrey2> I have multiple email accounts I'm accessing using Evolution....I recently saw a screen shot of it that showed each account set up with it's own inbox, sent, draft folders (etc)....anyone know how to set up Evolution to do that?
[09:24] <mikeymike> squeee: can i just remove xorg-air-core
[09:24] <mikeymike> i still have xserver-xorg
[09:24] <squeee> actually yes
[09:24] <raghu> menko, apt-get install --force-yes  libfreetype6-dev ( think before executing this)
[09:24] <squeee> mikeymike: sudo apt-get remove xorg-air-core beryl-core emerald-themes beryl-manager libberylsettings0 beryl-settings  beryl-plugins emerald beryl-plugins-data beryl
[09:24] <mikeymike> installing xserver-xorg-air-core doesn't remove xserver-xorg in synaptic
[09:24] <mikeymike> hmm
[09:24] <mikeymike> why all the beryl stuff?
[09:25] <menko> raghu: it still refuses to install it with the dependancy error.
[09:25] <squeee> mikeymike: do that, then we are going to change your repository to the aiglx one then reinstall all of it
[09:25] <mikeymike> ok
[09:25] <mikeymike> so the themes i have are gone?
[09:25] <mikeymike> or....
[09:25] <mikeymike> i edited a couple..
[09:25] <raghu> menko, give me sec
[09:25] <squeee> mikeymike: I THINK it retains all custom things like that but i can maken no garentees
[09:25] <mikeymike> right
[09:25] <mikeymike> in my home .whatever
[09:25] <Synner> How do I list all devices that Are mounted/unmounted.. also.. if its unmounted how do I mount.. and if its mounted how do I unmount?
[09:25] <mikeymike> or is that gconf stuff?
[09:25] <mikeymike> i dont know
[09:26] <mikeymike> anyway brb
[09:26] <squeee> alright
[09:26] <Synner> How do I list devices that are mount/un mounted that I can access.. (that are plugged in)
[09:27] <Geoffrey2> how's the Edgy upgrade working at this point?
[09:27] <maxxism> Geoffrey2:  lol it isnt
[09:27] <squeee> Geoffery2: imo... dont do it yet
[09:27] <SavageNL> Could anybody tell me how I can set my resolution to one that isn't listed in xrandr
[09:27] <squeee> Geoffery2: Lots of people are getting the bsod of X when they move to edgy
[09:27] <maxxism> SavageNL manually add the resolution to your xorg.conf
[09:28] <Geoffrey2> not ready for prime time yet....ok, I'll stay put for now
[09:28] <squeee> Geoffery2: Either do a fresh install or hang out in dapper for a while longer
[09:28] <raghu> menko,  dpkg --force-all -i  libfreetype6-dev
[09:28] <shah02> what is the best file recovery program for ext3??
[09:28] <SavageNL> maxxism, I have tried that, the only resolution that is listed there is the one I want (1400x1050) but it only shows 1280x1024
[09:28] <Geoffrey2> squeee, oh, so it's working alright as a fresh install, just not as an upgrade?
[09:28] <raghu> menko, give the path of  libfreetype6-dev
[09:29] <squeee> Geoffrey2: in my experience yes, but dont hold that to me if it doesn't work
[09:29] <maxxism> SavageNL:  make sure you list the resolution under the color depth you are running too.
[09:29] <squeee> shah02: I've heard of a good one, i think it's like ddrecovery or something, look for recovering with dd on google
[09:29] <compudaze> SavageNL: are you not able to switch to the res you want?
[09:29] <mikeymike> how do you restart gdm
[09:29] <mikeymike> just gdm?
[09:29] <mikeymike> which gdem
[09:29] <mikeymike> gdm*
[09:29] <SavageNL> maxxism, how do I know what color depth I am running now?
[09:29] <mikeymike> /usr/sbin/gdm
[09:29] <maxxism> its probably 24 bit
[09:29] <squeee> mikeymike: easiest way is to go into a terminal and type sudo pkill gdm
[09:30] <timhaughton> I'm a complete n00b to Apache and PHP. I've done a new LAMP server install - I'm not sure that PHP is working correctly. I've successfully got TorrentFlux to install, but whenever I go to the TorrentFlux web page, the browser just asks if I want to save the file. What should I do?
[09:30] <mikeymike> k
[09:30] <squeee> then type startx from the terminal
[09:30] <mikeymike> oh okay
[09:30] <mikeymike> startx
[09:30] <mikeymike> k
[09:30] <SavageNL> compudaze, I only have 1 resolution listed, and that is not the one that is in my xorg.conf
[09:30] <amit_> any one can help me to start 3d desktop
[09:30] <compudaze> what video drivers are you using?
[09:30] <Geoffrey2> anyone know how long it'll take for Firefox 2 to make it to Dapper?
[09:30] <raghu> amit_, 3ddesk
[09:30] <menko> raghu: thanks, I'm just looking for it on the server
[09:31] <maxxism> Geoffrey2 you can install it now.
[09:31] <amit_> intel D102 Mother board with ATI 300 series
[09:31] <mikeymike-linux> ahh weird..........
[09:31] <squeee> amit_: Maybe, what card do you have, is 3d working yet, and do you want themeable borders (beryl) or speed (compiz)
[09:31] <mikeymike-linux> why cant i get back to my terminal........
[09:31] <SavageNL> compudaze, Driver "ati"   according to mu xorg.conf
[09:31] <maxxism> its just not on the repos yet
[09:31] <mikeymike-linux> control alt f1 does nothing......
[09:31] <compudaze> do you know what refresh you want?
[09:31] <Geoffrey2> maxxism, that's the download you manually install from Mozilla's website?
[09:31] <maxxism> yeah.
[09:32] <squeee> amit_ do you have direct rendering working? (in terminal type 'glxinfo |grep direct rendering|)
[09:32] <SavageNL> compudaze, I'm happy with 60hz :)
[09:32] <amit_> direct rendring is not working
[09:32] <mikeymike> err
[09:32] <bahr> Hej jeg har brug for noget serioest hjaelp. Hvordan skifter jeg mit locale til ISO-8859-1 istedet for UTF-8 i ubuntu?
[09:32] <compudaze> open a terminal and type: gtf 1400 1050 60
[09:32] <compudaze> it'll spit out a modeline
[09:32] <LorD-LsD> hello .. i have a hardware upgrade question i would like to replace the 10gig drive i have with a 40 gig drive but i dont desire to have to reinstall my distro apps or anything.. is there a way to mirror the drive for linux ?
[09:32] <raghu> menko, chk in  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:32] <squeee> mikeymike-linux: is it locked up then?
[09:33] <bahr> arg this was the english channel lol sorry
[09:33] <raghu> amit_, chk your video card supports?
[09:33] <SavageNL> compudaze, add the modeline to the screen part?
[09:33] <bahr> Can someone please help me how do I change my default locale to ISO-8859-1 instead for UTF-8
[09:33] <mikeymike-linux> ok so....... im back to where i was
[09:33] <compudaze> put that modeline in your xorg.conf under Section "Monitor"
[09:33] <compudaze> and
[09:34] <mikeymike-linux> i'm in 2.6.15-27-386 on beryl with XGL nvidia on xorg :)
[09:34] <compudaze> under Section "Screen" -> SubSection "Display"  - replace your modes line with, Modes           "1440x1080_85.00"
[09:34] <compudaze> dont forget to make a backup of xorg.conf first
[09:34] <compudaze> sorry
[09:34] <compudaze> use your modeline
[09:34] <squeee> mikeymike-linux: ok then, lets try to just change the repository to aiglx, do you know how to change that?
[09:35] <mikeymike-linux> squeee, one of 2 ways... :)
[09:35] <compudaze> yours maybe, 1400x1050_60.00
[09:35] <compudaze> whatever your gtf output was
[09:35] <mikeymike-linux> squeee, which repo are you talking about though?
[09:35] <maxxism> compudaze  yeah dont tell him 85 hertz
[09:35] <savvas> is there a package to convert text files from linux format to windows?
[09:35] <squeee> mikeymike-linux: ok then change it to "deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ dapper main aiglx"
[09:35] <LorD-LsD> is there a way i can copy my distro onto another drive and keep going with out having to reinstall everything ?
[09:35] <mikeymike-linux> ok
[09:35] <SavageNL> maxxism, I figured not to put it at 85 :)
[09:35] <compudaze> i pasted my modeline, sorry, dont forget to use the line your gtf cmd printer out
[09:35] <wastrel> savvas:  install sysutils  the program is unix2dos
[09:35] <maxxism> hehe
[09:35] <compudaze> ;p
[09:35] <mikeymike-linux> squeee, it already is that
[09:35] <compudaze> give that a shot
[09:36] <savvas> thanks wastrel  :)
[09:36] <compudaze> i had to do that for my res
[09:36] <mikeymike-linux> squeee,  deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ dapper main aiglx
[09:36] <squeee> mikeymike-linux: there are no other repos in there for xgl are there?
[09:36] <frandavid100> sorry squeee, didn't even have time to thank you :)
[09:36] <mikeymike-linux> squeee, how would i check?
[09:36] <mikeymike-linux> repos are a new thing to me lol i dont really understand them.....
[09:36] <frandavid100> thanks for your help man! see you later!
[09:36] <squeee> frandavid100: no problem :D
[09:36] <phire> I intalled amarok, then opened it and it asked to install mp3 support, then restart. Now when I open it, the splash screen shows, then the program disappears, not is ps aux, Help
[09:36] <squeee> mikeymike-linux: heh thats ok
[09:36] <maxxism>  says   repos = software heaven
[09:37] <mikeymike-linux> it is
[09:37] <mikeymike-linux> i love it
[09:37] <mikeymike-linux> but if you mess up your sources.... its software HELL
[09:37] <mikeymike-linux> haha
[09:37] <maxxism> true enough
[09:37] <squeee> mikeymike-linux: i've been there... its not a fun place
[09:37] <mikeymike-linux> squeee, i dont have any other beryl repos except the aiglx one
[09:37] <SavageNL> compudaze, maxxism, I think I did all changes :) now I guess I should restart x so ill be back in a minute
[09:38] <LorD-LsD> is there a line to wait in to get help ?
[09:38] <maxxism> no need to restart
[09:38] <Geoffrey2> ok, Firefox 2....under my home directory, I see .mozilla/firefox/xxxxxx.default....I'm presuming all the Firefox 2 files and folders get plopped in the default folder?
[09:38] <SavageNL> not?
[09:38] <compudaze> LorD-LsD: just ask
[09:38] <squeee> mikeymike-linux: ok, what was your uname -r printout again?
[09:38] <LorD-LsD> is there a way i can copy my distro onto another drive and keep going with out having to reinstall everything ?
[09:38] <mikeymike-linux> 2.6.15-27-386
[09:38] <maxxism> log out.   and when in login menu hit.  ctrl alt backspace.
[09:39] <SavageNL> maxxism, ok :) saves me some time
[09:39] <SavageNL> brb
[09:39] <maxxism> if X breaks you buggared it somehow
[09:39] <towsonu2003> Geoffrey2, correct
[09:39] <LorD-LsD> my distro is installed on a 10 gig drive.. i wish to replace that drive with a 40 gig but i dont want to loose all the work i have put into it setting it back up
[09:39] <SavageNL> Ill get the backup back in a shell then
[09:39] <mnepton> LorD-LsD: rsync
[09:39] <LorD-LsD> what is rsync ?
[09:39] <ketsugi> !restrictedformats
[09:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:40] <mnepton> LorD-LsD: i'll bet Google knows what rsync is. and will lead you to places where you can find out how to use it to copy your existing Ubuntu installation. :)
[09:40] <compudaze> i feel dirty, running fedora and hanging out in a ubuntu channel ;p
[09:40] <towsonu2003> mnepton, LorD-LsD I'm not sure rsync is the way to go
[09:40] <mikeymike-linux> i keep getting the network manager applet in my gpanel .. where is the conf for that so ic an get rid of it.... or uninstall it..
[09:40] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[09:40] <LorD-LsD> towsonu2003 what would you suggest
[09:40] <mnepton> towsonu2003: i used rsync last weekend to clone a drive.
[09:41] <towsonu2003> mnepton, LorD-LsD I usually have problems with symlinks with rsync
[09:41] <maxxism> compudaze fedora has its good points too.
[09:41] <towsonu2003> mnepton would tar work?
[09:41] <compudaze> like what? i'm still trying to find out ;p
[09:41] <squeee> mikeymikek-linux sudo apt-get remove network-manager or just go to preferences > sessions
[09:41] <mikeymike-linux> ahh
[09:41] <mikeymike-linux> okay
[09:41] <bony>  i recently upgrade my system from dapper to edgy and the mysql version that i use is 5 before upgrading mysql it was working properly but now after updating the system mysql simply refuses to start when i issue the command "/etc/init.d/mysql restart" myslqd stop's properly but fails to start. i use php and apache too
[09:41] <maxxism> compudaze,  the admin/server tools are wicked easy for noobs
[09:41] <mnepton> towsonu2003: tar will probably ignore the "non-regular" files in /dev/ and such
[09:41] <phire> I intalled amarok, then opened it and it asked to install mp3 support, then restart. Now when I open it, the splash screen shows, then the program disappears, not is ps aux, Help
[09:42] <KenSentMe> bony: do you get any mysql errors in your /var/log/syslog
[09:42] <phire> using gnome
[09:42] <mikeymike-linux> squeee, can you tell me what this is xmodmap -e keycode 22 = BackSpace Delete
[09:42] <compudaze> gui config for apace and such?
[09:42] <bony> KenSentMe, just a sec let me check
[09:42] <compudaze> apache i mean
[09:42] <towsonu2003> mnepton, something like dd or dd-rescue? or maybe my problems arise bc I used rsync locally
[09:42] <mikeymike-linux> and where do i enable the super key.... lol
[09:42] <jorgg-> 8877623454332
[09:43] <stylus> what's the name of the apt-get package for all the basic development tools again?
[09:43] <wastrel> build-essential
[09:43] <stylus> thanks
[09:43] <compudaze> u may also want, automake1.9 and autoconf
[09:43] <squeee> mikeymike-linux: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:GKmSohRTERcJ:lists.debian.org/debian-user/1997/03/msg00585.html+xmodmap+-e+keycode+22+%3D+BackSpace+Delete&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a
[09:43] <mnepton> towsonu2003: dd might work, but it's far more intricate a procedure
[09:43] <bony> KenSentMe, yeah there is an entry in the file
[09:43] <bony> regarding mysql
[09:44] <bony> KenSentMe, it said caught in signal 4
[09:44] <stefan__> hi all
[09:44] <mikeymike-linux> squeee, i still dont understand it
[09:44] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[09:44] <mikeymike-linux> i dont know why its in there......... i may have added it a long time ago.........
[09:44] <raghu> menko, any luck?
[09:44] <towsonu2003> LorD-LsD, have a google at rsync as well as dd :) dd is harder to use as mnepton suggests
[09:44] <Geoffrey2> should I be removing the Ubuntu version of Firefox before I try to install the FF2?
[09:44] <mikeymike-linux> or a program may have done it...........
[09:44] <KenSentMe> bony: you could search google or the mysql site on that error (or post it here and hope someone knows the answer)
[09:45] <towsonu2003> mnepton,  thanks :)
[09:45] <mikeymike-linux> im not quite sure.........
[09:45] <stefan__> did something happen with nickserve?
[09:45] <LorD-LsD> it doesnt look like rsync will make partitions
[09:45] <compudaze> LorD-LsD: easy way... something like noron ghost... download iso and burn from http://www.sysresccd.org -- it's callrt partimage
[09:45] <bony> KenSentMe,
[09:45] <bony> KenSentMe, ok
[09:45] <compudaze> it'll clone one drive to another
[09:45] <compudaze> like ghost
[09:45] <stefan__> LorD-LsD: or another thing is "mondo"
[09:45] <LorD-LsD> i have a blank 40 gig drive i wish to copy my install from.. i do not have cd media it has to be a hd to hd transfer
[09:45] <squeee> mikeymike-linux: it looks like a fix for some people where delete and backspace are mixed up on their keyboards
[09:46] <mikeymike-linux> oh
[09:46] <mikeymike-linux> ok
[09:46] <LorD-LsD> sorry 40 gig blank drive i wish to copy my install too
[09:46] <menko> raghu: I went to the download site (it wasn't in the cache file) and downloaded the version it wanted.
[09:46] <mikeymike-linux> thats what it seems like to me
[09:46] <mikeymike-linux> ah well
[09:46] <LorD-LsD> basicly i have a 10 gig drive /dev/hda and i wish ti replace that drive with the 40 gig drive i have now and remove the 10 gig drive from the system
[09:46] <squeee> mikeymike-linux: I found one person who has the dri modules you'd need but it would seem his repository is gone/offline
[09:46] <guillem101> hmmm where is gksuexec???
[09:46] <compudaze> ok, so apt-get install partimage
[09:46] <SavageNL> maxxism, that didn't seem to work
[09:46] <compudaze> and use that
[09:47] <guillem101> it has disappeared after edgy upgrade :-(
[09:47] <mikeymike-linux> squeee, do you think thats why its not working? because of the kernel mismatch?
[09:47] <mikeymike-linux> what is the dri module anyway?
[09:47] <squeee> yea
[09:47] <mikeymike-linux> what does it do?
[09:47] <maxxism> SavageNL did it blue screen?
[09:47] <mikeymike-linux> is that the GLX module that isnt loading upon x startup?
[09:47] <mikeymike-linux> that the log tells me.........
[09:47] <squeee> i think it has something to do with direct rendering
[09:47] <mikeymike-linux> hmm
[09:47] <mikeymike-linux> i see
[09:47] <SavageNL> maxxism, it gave a black screen, just didn't reload X anymore
[09:47] <bellemerlord> Hi, i got a weird Prob with my edgy-installation, can someone help me, please?
[09:47] <BHSPitMonkey> hey... sometimes, I'll close my laptop lid, and then re-open it, and the screen won't turn back on.  if I can VNC into the laptop, then somehow that turns on the monitor again (I know it's still running)
[09:47] <BHSPitMonkey> anyone know a fix/workaround?
[09:47] <mikeymike-linux> i wonder why my kernel slipped through the cracks.........
[09:48] <BHSPitMonkey> I need my screen back right now...
[09:48] <squeee> mikeymike-linux: direct rendering infastructure
[09:48] <mikeymike-linux> squeee, but wouldn't installing it and running the older kernel fix it?
[09:48] <mikeymike-linux> shouldnt it work then? or would that break more stuff?
[09:48] <squeee> it should work
[09:48] <squeee> but
[09:48] <mikeymike-linux> im not sure how running older kernels affects the system........
[09:48] <squeee> if you are running nvidia kernels compiled for your newer kernel you will have some issues
[09:48] <mikeymike-linux> ah right
[09:48] <mikeymike-linux> that makes sense now
[09:48] <LorD-LsD> mondo would be great if i had a way to actully use it.. once i make the backup i have to be able to install the back up meaning id need an os right..
[09:49] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: have you tried to save everything and reboot? or log out and in again? (that is a suggestion!)
[09:49] <pvt_harv__> i upgraded to edgy and the process went fine without probs.
[09:49] <BHSPitMonkey> save everything??
[09:49] <squeee> pvt_harv__: can I have your autograph?
[09:49] <BHSPitMonkey> log out??
[09:49] <towsonu2003> BHSPitLappy_, try tapping fn+f7 or f8 a couple of times. also fn+f4 (well, these are the fn keys in my laptop; fn + f7 decreases brightness, f8 increases brightness, f4 takes it to an external monitor)
[09:49] <BHSPitMonkey> towsonu2003, no go.
[09:50] <SavageNL> compudaze, what was that modeline command again?
[09:50] <BHSPitMonkey> the laptop display is just plain OFF.
[09:50] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: well, you are on your machine? right? with VNC?...save eveyrything and then restart X by pressing ctrl-alt-backspace (or log out and in again)
[09:50] <compudaze> gtf
[09:50] <compudaze> that generates them
[09:50] <squeee> mikeymike-linux, I'd say your best option now would be to give edgy a try (fresh install not upgrade)
[09:50] <BHSPitMonkey> scheuri, no... if I could VNC into it right now, then it would come back on.
[09:50] <mikeymike-linux> squeee, i cant afford to do that lol
[09:50] <BHSPitMonkey> because that's what it does.
[09:50] <mikeymike-linux> too much junk on here
[09:50] <mikeymike-linux> i think i could pull off an upgrade without a hitch :)
[09:50] <squeee> mikeymike-linux fair enough
[09:50] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: ah, sorry...I tought you are already with VNC in your box...my bad
[09:50] <mikeymike-linux> i have good luck like that......
[09:50] <mikeymike-linux> :-P
[09:51] <mikeymike-linux> honestly im not going to attempt it though... im happy where i am
[09:51] <towsonu2003> BHSPitLappy_, if scheuri's suggestion to restart X doesn't work, do you have Windows installed too? sounds a little bit like a hardware issue I experience last week on Windows...
[09:51] <towsonu2003> experience=experienced
[09:51] <compudaze> LorD-LsD: install partimage and try it
[09:51] <squeee> mikeymike-linux: good luck... i've had a few machines not like upgrading to edgy
[09:51] <wastrel> python
[09:51] <mikeymike-linux> squeee, i dont think i'll do it
[09:51] <SavageNL> compudaze, can you think of anything I could have done wrong to make X not boot again, or is the resolution I want just not supported?
[09:51] <mikeymike-linux> im happy where i am
[09:51] <igorzolnikov> Hi!
[09:51] <squeee> good choice
[09:51] <seth1244> heedly: Thank you
[09:51] <compudaze> the 2 lines have to match
[09:52] <igorzolnikov> My PC have rebooted in process upgrade to 6.10. X didn't start. I tried "sudo apt-get upgrade" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in console. X have started, but now i have following problem:
[09:52] <compudaze> what did you put in monitor? and in screen?
[09:52] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: well, by restarting X you lose actually your work not being saved before your incident...be aware of this
[09:52] <igorzolnikov> I can't upgrade 21 packages.
[09:52] <BHSPitMonkey> I refuse to restart X.
[09:52] <maxxism> SavageNL did you install your video drivers?  what video card do you have?
[09:52] <bony> this is what is there in the syslog http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29330/. KenSentMe
[09:52] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: well, do you have FreeNX, NX or something similiar installed?
[09:52] <LorD-LsD> compudaze thank you that looks like what i need
[09:52] <igorzolnikov> * Starting ACPI services... invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed.
[09:52] <mikeymike-linux> omg super key with mouse = screenshot instantly
[09:52] <mikeymike-linux> i love that
[09:53] <compudaze> hope it works for you
[09:53] <BHSPitMonkey> scheuri, I don't know the laptop's local IP right now.
[09:53] <igorzolnikov> Errors were encountered while processing: acpid, acpi-support
[09:53] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: ah, okay...but there is something like NX or VNC installed, right?
[09:53] <seth1244> heedly: Your question helped me figure out what was going on. The partition name in fstab did not match the root partition in grubs menu.lst .
[09:53] <BHSPitMonkey> yeah...
[09:54] <livingdaylight> !paste
[09:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:54] <SavageNL> compudaze, I put the entire output from gtf into the Monitor section and I replaced the resolutions I had in the DisplaySubsection sections with the string part
[09:54] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: are you on a windows system now? in a LAN? at home/work?
[09:54] <compudaze> they both match?
[09:54] <seth1244> heedly: Now I'm typing from my computer in ubuntu instead of having to type from my pda.
[09:54] <compudaze> what was the x error?
[09:54] <yango> hello, my timezones have disappeared! :) really, what's the package for them?
[09:55] <SavageNL> maxxism, I have a Ati Mobility radeon 7500, didn't install any extra drivers (thought I read they were included)
[09:55] <BHSPitMonkey> scheuri, ubuntu desktop.
[09:55] <SavageNL> compudaze, there was no error, it just didn't boot (black screen on loading)
[09:55] <livingdaylight> Wonder if someone can help me with my /grub/menu.lst ??? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29332/
[09:55] <Geoffrey2> it would appear that the plugins for firefox built into the repositories won't work with the Firefox 2 version downloaded from Mozilla
[09:55] <KenSentMe> bony: apparently, you're not the only one with this problem: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.0/+bug/66702
[09:55] <igorzolnikov> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29331/plain/
[09:55] <compudaze> what resolution were u trying?
[09:55] <SavageNL> 1400x1050
[09:55] <livingdaylight> i've got Edgy on sda1 twice! What is generic?
[09:55] <igorzolnikov> Help me, plz. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29331/plain/
[09:55] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: okay...so we need to find out the IP of your laptop, right?
[09:56] <maxxism> SavageNL  I think you need to upgrade your ATI driver and try it again
[09:56] <heedly> seth1244: good to hear!
[09:56] <compudaze> "1400x1050_60.00" should have been in both parts
[09:56] <bony> KenSentMe, ooo shiiii so how long will it take? just asking out of curiosity ;-)
[09:56] <compudaze> and u know thats a good res?
[09:56] <SavageNL> maxxism, how do I do that?
[09:57] <BHSPitMonkey> scheuri, yeah. and, to help the situation, when I go to the DHCP clients table in my router's firmware, it gives me an empty table! I LOVE LINKSYS!
[09:57] <SavageNL> compudaze, the monitor section had some other stuff on the same line but that was the string
[09:57] <compudaze> another thing you could try, dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:57] <compudaze> mostly keep defaults for everything, cept the monitor options - you should be able to choose the res u want
[09:57] <KenSentMe> bony: that's hard to say. I think you should keep track of that bug and see when it's solved or a solution is given. You can subscribe to the bug to get email updates. Or add a comment with information about your setup/machine
[09:57] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: heh...aye...to make things easy, right? ;)...okay...so YOUR ubuntu desktop will have an ip from the same subnet, right?
[09:57] <livingdaylight> Yo Guys!!! can someone help me look at my /grub/menu.lst ?
[09:57] <livingdaylight> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29332/
[09:57] <livingdaylight> thx
[09:57] <seth1244> Does anyone know what this new "UUID=f3429111-a3e8-432b-bea1-34661bbb948a" thing in fstab under edgy is?
[09:57] <livingdaylight> i've got edgy twice. What is generic?
[09:58] <igorzolnikov> Help me, plz. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29331/plain/
[09:58] <scheuri> seth1244: sounds like softwareRaid
[09:58] <SavageNL> compudaze, It should support it, and at 1280x1024 I have a weird colored unusable bar at the bottom and a black one at the right of my screen, so the extra pixels should fill it up
[09:58] <ph8> hey all! has anyone managed to get vmware player working with ubuntu? if not does anyone fancy grabbing the package and seeing if it 'just works'?
[09:58] <BHSPitMonkey> scheuri, 192.168.1.1XX
[09:58] <bony> KenSentMe, thanks for the info dude thanks a lot
[09:58] <shah02> anyone know how to use photorec on a ext3 partition?
[09:58] <ph8> edgy that is
[09:58] <rausb0> seth1244: its a filesystem unique uid
[09:58] <timhaughton> Anyone know how to get PHP working on the Ubuntu LAMP server?
[09:58] <maxxism> SavageNL can you try and use the pastebin and paste your xorg.conf file?
[09:58] <livingdaylight> I also have kubuntu and old beta install of edgy on sdb1 and sdb5 both in duplicate or triplicate on the grub/menu.lst
[09:58] <bony> KenSentMe, i will keep track of the bug and see to it that the bug is squashed ;-D
[09:58] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: okay...so your laptop has something like 192.168.1.xxx, right? can you install nmap for me? "sudo aptitude install nmap"?
[09:58] <livingdaylight> Oh,sheisse
[09:59] <rikki> hello
[09:59] <mikeymike-linux> oh well
[09:59] <mikeymike-linux> thanks for your help squeee
[09:59] <rikki> irc.freenode.net
[09:59] <rikki> ops
[09:59] <rikki> how do i remove X in ubuntu ?
[09:59] <livingdaylight> aguess, help is only available if one asks how to become root or something...
[09:59] <mikeymike-linux> squeee, if you find that dri for my kernel you can query me and leave it in a message
[09:59] <mikeymike-linux> no biggie if you dont
[09:59] <CorpseFeeder> is there any other IM client for linux which will send webcam to windows users with MSN, or is aMSN the only one with webcam support?
[09:59] <SavageNL> maxxism, do you want the one I tried or my current one? :)
[09:59] <mikeymike-linux> off to bed for me :)
[09:59] <maxxism> rikki  reinstall using the server install disc
[10:00] <yango> hello.... where do I get the timezones from? I noticed my system is misconfigured with respect to timezones, and I find out I don't have the zoneinfo database
[10:00] <maxxism> current
[10:00] <seth1244> rausb0: Before edgy it would just say something like: /dev/hda3 . Why has this changed, or at least where can I get more info about this?
[10:00] <rikki> i have reinstalled for 4 times now
[10:00] <rikki> maxxism
[10:00] <rikki> what do i write in console to remove it
[10:00] <BHSPitMonkey> scheuri, yeah, I have it.
[10:00] <rausb0> seth1244: each ext2 and ext3 filesystem has a uniqe id. you can see it with: sudo tune2fs -l /dev/hd..
[10:01] <rikki> ?
[10:01] <rikki> hello?
[10:01] <maxxism> rikki why dont you want X?
[10:01] <rausb0> seth1244: ubuntu uses the uuid for identifying the partitions
[10:01] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: great...now...following command will ping all addresses in 192.168.1.0, okay? "nmap -v -sP 192.168.1.0/32"
[10:01] <maxxism> rikki  running a server?
[10:01] <rikki> yeah
[10:01] <compudaze> SavageNL: do u see that res when u run, ddcprobe ??
[10:01] <rikki> maxxism: yeah
[10:01] <igorzolnikov> Plz, help me. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29331/plain/
[10:01] <SavageNL> maxxism, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29333/
[10:01] <CorpseFeeder> what other IM clients for ubuntu have support for webcam?
[10:01] <maxxism> rikki if so then the ubuntu-server disc doesnt have X on it.
[10:01] <compudaze> kopete i think
[10:02] <BHSPitMonkey> scheuri, the laptop is going to be somewhere between 192.168.1.100 and 130
[10:02] <rausb0> seth1244: so the partitions can still be found if they were moved around by some partitioning tool
[10:02] <rikki> maxxism: there is desktop. i dont need it.
[10:02] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: well, it will show up with that ping...it just will take some time
[10:02] <DaGame> What's a web browser that can, for example, copy the urls in all tabs to the clipboard or send it to some apps in a pipeline etc etc ?
[10:02] <maxxism> rikki which disc did you install with?
[10:02] <SavageNL> compudaze, I can't run ddcprobe
[10:02] <rikki> dont know
[10:02] <luz> how watch this embeeded movie? http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/33228,film.rd?url=
[10:02] <compudaze> run as root
[10:02] <compudaze> or sudo
[10:02] <rikki> it is from may 2006
[10:03] <compudaze> u need 'xresprobe' installed
[10:03] <maxxism> rikki go back to ubuntu.com and get the server version then.   sounds like you are installing the desktop version.
[10:03] <seth1244> rausb0: Before edgy it would just say something like: /dev/hda3 . Why has this changed, or at least where can I get more info about this?
[10:03] <rausb0> seth1244: for example, if you have /dev/hda6 as root partition and then use partition magic or something that makes hda6 to hda8, ubuntu will still be able to find this partition
[10:03] <rikki> jesus
[10:03] <rikki> i know it is possible to remove
[10:03] <rikki> it
[10:03] <rausb0> seth1244: each ext2 and ext3 filesystem has a uniqe id. you can see it with: sudo tune2fs -l /dev/hd..
[10:03] <BHSPitMonkey> scheuri, that command just doesn't do what you claim it to
[10:03] <rikki> yeah yeah
[10:03] <rikki> i try another place
[10:03] <rikki> bye !
[10:03] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: sorry, my bad..."nmap -v -sP 192.168.1.100-130" should ping all your hosts in that IP-range
[10:04] <CorpseFeeder> would I have to install and use the KDE desktop to use kopete or KMess? Or can I run one or either of them in Gnome desktop?
[10:04] <BHSPitMonkey> yeah, I figured it out
[10:04] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: well, now you should have your laptops IP....
[10:05] <BHSPitMonkey> scheuri, I found it.
[10:05] <capt-silver> gparted is another linux partitioner you may want to try...
[10:05] <SavageNL> compudaze, ddcprobe doesn't show the resolution I want in the list, but it does show this: dtiming: 1400x1050@70
[10:05] <compudaze> CorpseFeeder: no i doubt it - u may have to install some kde/qt libs though
[10:05] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: okay...now...you should be able to connect with VNC or NX or whatever and do your thing...:)...at least I understood that you are now able to restart the screen, right?
[10:05] <compudaze> change the lines, gtf 1400 1050 70
[10:05] <compudaze> and use that instead
[10:05] <compudaze> of 60
[10:06] <BHSPitMonkey> scheuri, fixed. thanks.
[10:06] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: you are welcome...
[10:06] <BHSPitMonkey> the bug itself just really ticks me off. -badly.
[10:06] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: can imagine...
[10:06] <CorpseFeeder> good. I'm none too keen on KDE. :)
[10:06] <BHSPitMonkey> well, back to work.
[10:06] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: wait
[10:07] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: tell me what you have done after logging in with VNC to make your screen come up again
[10:07] <scheuri> BHSPitMonkey: maybe i am in need of this, too
[10:07] <SavageNL> compudaze, did that, brb again
[10:07] <compudaze> gl
[10:08] <igorzolnikov> Process of upgrade to 6.10 very slow...
[10:09] <scheuri> it is interesting...a lot of people say that upgrading is not working, others say it went smoothly....would interesting to find out if people (without sucess) have enabled universe, multiverse or used scripts like automatix or easy-ubuntu
[10:10] <ayaa> how to get back to firefox 1.5 on edgy ?
[10:10] <compudaze> why would u want to do that?
[10:10] <compudaze> 2 is so much better
[10:10] <livingdaylight> Can someone tell me what the point of FireFox 2 is if less than half the add-ons and extensions don't work withit?
[10:10] <livingdaylight> does someone have this answer?
[10:10] <scheuri> compudaze: in this matter, my friend, you will hear different opinions...:)
[10:10] <Daviey> I've got a problem with the resizing of an NTFS partition during a dapper install.  It has been going about 14 hours!  It's 160gig HD with 130gig of NTFS used space.  I am trying to create a 20gig Ubuntu partition.  Not sure what i should do
[10:10] <compudaze> dont blame firefox, blade the coders of the plugins/extensions
[10:11] <scheuri> Daviey: I really hope you backed up things before
[10:11] <Daviey> scheuri, guess what
[10:11] <yango> Daviey, wait another 14 hours...
[10:11] <scheuri> compudaze: hey hey...there is no need to blame anyone...
[10:11] <yango> Daviey, to resize a 40 Gb NTFS it took me like 8 hours
[10:11] <scheuri> Daviey: guess...you did not? ;)
[10:11] <ayaa> compudaze, i have a real problem with firefox, when it starts, it takes some minutes before freezing my mouse, and when closing firefox with keyboard, the mouse is freezed, and forever till a reboot, it's very strange, no log files indicating any thing about that
[10:11] <compudaze> if some plugins work with 1.5 and 2.0
[10:11] <compudaze> and some dont
[10:12] <compudaze> then
[10:12] <compudaze> ...
[10:12] <Daviey> yango, well that is good news!  I don't suppose you knew what the the process information said (top) for portman when you did it?
[10:12] <scheuri> compudaze: that might be true, but that was way not my point...firefox 2 does not appeal to everyone...no need to say "why even bother going back as ff2 is great"
[10:12] <scheuri> compudaze: that is why I commented that...:)
[10:13] <ayaa> so how to downgrade it ?
[10:13] <capt-silver> how are you going to install an os, past the 1024 cylinder, after the resizing completes? /boot will have to reside under 1024 cylinders, and the rest of the linux parttinios will have to go somewhere else...just use a different drive next time....
[10:13] <yango> Daviey, nope because X hung :D (i was REALLY, REALLY scared) But it turned out ok, thank god
[10:13] <compudaze> hence why i asked why
[10:13] <compudaze> someone would want to do that
[10:13] <livingdaylight> hello?
[10:13] <neo[wk] > Does anybody here speak Russian?:-)
[10:13] <scheuri> ayaa: I must admit I dontknow, but a search in your favourite application for firefox...it may turn up...
[10:13] <livingdaylight> !russian
[10:13] <compudaze> as my expierence is obviously different
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about russian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <livingdaylight> !ru
[10:14] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[10:14] <Daviey> yango, but it did work alright in the end?  To be honest the drive was quite badly fragmented aswell.   If it's doing it at 1-2 Meg sec how long would it take?
[10:14] <DaGame> What was that cmd to list filesystem calls?
[10:14] <neo[wk] > thanks!
[10:14] <livingdaylight> :)
[10:14] <Daviey> yango, what happend when you rebooted?  How did you fix it?
[10:14] <livingdaylight> neo[wk] : tag
[10:14] <yango> Daviey, it did work at the end, although that's no guarantee it'll work for you
[10:14] <livingdaylight> neo[wk] : nostrovia!
[10:15] <riaal> How do i check my Mac-address and Ip adress from the console?
[10:15] <yango> Daviey, but at least I'd give it some 8 more hours before giving up. And I didn't reboot, I just waited
[10:15] <NigelS> riaal: ipconfig
[10:15] <NigelS> riaal: ifconfig even
[10:15] <neo[wk] > livingdaylight, do you speak russian ?)
[10:15] <Daviey> yango, cheers
[10:15] <capt-silver> bobrobyn, are you just waking up?
[10:15] <yango> Daviey, don't you think about rebooting, that's sure path to data death
[10:16] <livingdaylight> no, only nostrovia!
[10:16] <riaal> NigelS: Thanks
[10:16] <livingdaylight> neo[wk] :  Putin lets people use Ubuntu in Russia?
[10:16] <noelferreira> hi people , need help with rt61 wireless driver in edgy? Can you help me?
[10:16] <neo[wk] > hm, what is "nostrovia"?))
[10:16] <yango> 6.06 is edgy?
[10:16] <drumline_> 6.10 is edgy
[10:16] <cbx33> no
[10:17] <Bobrobyn> capt-silver:   No, I just did a fresh Edgy install (and now everythings working great) and I'm happy..  Installed xchat-gnome and noticed it's default server, when booted, is here, heh.
[10:17] <n1gke> Nostrovia tovarish !
[10:17] <Bobrobyn> It's really 4:20 AM :-P
[10:17] <ayaa> can anyone help me ? i have no browser to search for that version, anyone can get me the direct download link for source tarball of ff1.5 ?
[10:17] <drumline_> ayaa: what's wrong with 2.0 ?
[10:17] <scheuri> ayaa: do you know how to handle command line a bit?
[10:18] <christianp> hi all
[10:18] <noelferreira> anyone can help me with rt61 wireless driver?
[10:18] <capt-silver> i installed a Fedora Core 6, but I will install Edgy later today....i love finding stuff to apt-get install...its my fav app :)
[10:18] <ayaa> scheuri, lynx ?
[10:18] <Roberto> Buenos dias :))
[10:18] <scheuri> ayaa: no...a few commands to make sure there is really NO ff1.5 available
[10:18] <compudaze> u can use apt with fedora core
[10:18] <compudaze> i dont use yum,
[10:18] <Bobrobyn> capt:  Awsome.  You have mutliple distro-installs?
[10:18] <christianp> i installed ubuntu in a partition and then a win2000 to another partition. Now i have to reinstall grub to make ubuntu bootable. Can anyone help me in understanding how to install grub?
[10:18] <ayaa> scheuri, apt-cache so
[10:19] <ayaa> scheuri, am seeking for the source tarball link
[10:19] <yango> what package contains the zoneinfo database?
[10:19] <capt-silver> no...i have multiple computers and drives....
[10:19] <scheuri> ayaa: sorry then....
[10:19] <drumline_> !grub
[10:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:19] <Bobrobyn> capt-silver: Ah...lol.
[10:19] <drumline_> christianp: there go  ^^  :)
[10:19] <cbx33> anyone know why this is ahppeneing - Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[10:19] <noelferreira> people! who can help me with rt61 wireless driver?
[10:19] <DaftDog> morning all...
[10:20] <Bobrobyn> OMG, it auto-mounts my windows partician!  *claps*
[10:20] <christianp> thanks, friends :)
[10:20] <SavageNL> compudaze, that didn't work either :(
[10:20] <yango> !timezone
[10:20] <drumline_> Bobrobyn: yes... and it makes french fries in 3 different ways!  :)
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timezone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <yango> !zoneinfo
[10:20] <neo[wk] > livingdaylight, putin is very good president)))
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zoneinfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <Bobrobyn> Lol.  It'll happen...someday >_>
[10:20] <compudaze> grub-install hd0 -- this installed to mbr of hd0
[10:21] <barata> Hallo, what is the equivalent of Apple's "Amazing Slow Downer" in Linux or Windoz?
[10:21] <barata> that app slow down music WITHOUT changing the pitch
[10:21] <compudaze> SavageNL: did you reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[10:21] <DaftDog> i installed edgy on the weekend and found that zope2.8 is completely gone from the edgy repos... how can i get zope2.8 back?
[10:21] <SavageNL> compudaze, the dpkg-reconfigure command comes with the same output as what I started with
[10:21] <barata> great for learning a language
[10:21] <drumline_> best thing to do is back up your boot sector to a flash drive and then slap it on there if anything get messed up.
[10:21] <compudaze> i c
[10:21] <compudaze> i duno then
[10:21] <barata> or learning a new music
[10:21] <livingdaylight> neo[wk] : hahaha, you are KGB agent?
[10:22] <SavageNL> compudaze, so that also doesn't fix it... It does list all resolutions as 1400x1050, but it doesn't actually use that resolution
[10:22] <livingdaylight> neo[wk] : wants to setup networking in the kgb politburo with Ubuntu
[10:22] <neo[wk] > livingdaylight, yes)
[10:22] <noelferreira> rt61 wireless driver, anyone?
[10:22] <compudaze> what res does it use?
[10:23] <qetesh> anyone got ideas about how I can get sound working?
[10:23] <SavageNL> compudaze, I still have 1280x1024. xorg.conf has 1400x1050 for all depths
[10:24] <neo[wk] > livingdaylight, all russian people are KGB agets)))
[10:24] <SavageNL> compudaze, maxx... hinted at installing the video drivers, I thought they were pre-installed, but could I be wrong about that?
[10:24] <Neobeo> My Ubuntu stutters (pauses for half a second) every 2-3 seconds or so. This is evident when moving the mouse in circles or holding any key in the virtual terminal. Any idea what's causing this?
[10:24] <compudaze> try this for drivers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:24] <livingdaylight> neo[wk] : scary....very scary
[10:25] <ravishankar> I have a question about how to use the ubuntu logo in a loco team? where can I ask and clarify? I have already read http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy?highlight=%28Ubuntu%29%7C%28Trademark%29%7C%28Policy%29
[10:25] <ikor> neo[wk] , ugu
[10:25] <thandavarayan> qetesh: may I know which sound card do you have....
[10:25] <SavageNL> compudaze, that driver doesn't support my card (mobility radeon 7500)
[10:26] <neo[wk] > livingdaylight, I will go to UK in 2007 year :) works..)))
[10:27] <livingdaylight> neo[wk] : russians Love being ruled, exploited and crushed by Tsars, Dictators, and now even Primeministers
[10:27] <noelferreira> please anyone can help me with rt61 wireless driver in edgy?
[10:27] <ckw> 
[10:27] <yango> this is weird
[10:27] <yango> zoneinfo is supposed to be in libc6 package
[10:27] <compudaze> in xorg.conf, use radeon instead of 'ati'
[10:27] <livingdaylight> neo[wk] : why come to uk?
[10:27] <yango> I of course have libc installed, but no zoneinfo
[10:28] <ckw> 
[10:28] <qetesh> thandavarayan it's Ensoniq AudioPCI, ES1371/1
[10:28] <livingdaylight> !ch
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <compudaze> for  the "Driver"
[10:28] <livingdaylight> !china
[10:28] <jc-denton> i have a strange problem with edgy
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about china - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <SavageNL> compudaze, I think I tried that already, but I'll try again (might work with the gtf settings added)
[10:28] <jc-denton>  / is suddenly mounted read only
[10:28] <ckw> yes
[10:28] <jc-denton> and / does not show up when i type mount
[10:28] <themadhatter> Is there a reason that scim-setup does not work in Edgy?
[10:28] <neo[wk] > livingdaylight, i get security task...))
[10:28] <thandavarayan> qetesh: what is the version of Ubuntu....and ALSA
[10:28] <jc-denton> but it's in /proc/mounts
[10:29] <ckw> hi
[10:29] <qetesh> it's Edgy
[10:29] <qetesh> fresh install
[10:29] <ckw> 
[10:29] <jc-denton> and it's commented in /etc/fstab
[10:29] <mauran>  themadhatter: why? scim-setup is working on edgy. i'm using it
[10:29] <SavageNL> compudaze, I'll go try the steps we did with the driver set to radeon, brb again :)
[10:29] <neo[wk] > livingdaylight, do you know about SWsoft?)
[10:30] <ckw> kunwen20086@hotmail.com
[10:30] <themadhatter> mauran, Mine comes up with a stack overflow :S
[10:30] <jc-denton> does anybody have an idea what could cause this problem
[10:30] <ravishankar> mauran, is this the right place to ask my question
[10:30] <mauran> ya ravi
[10:30] <ravishankar> the place is too crowded
[10:31] <mauran> ask it
[10:31] <ufoz> hi all, i deleted some stuff in the /var. like  /var/cache/debconf/config.dat and now i have problems installing some software
[10:31] <ravishankar> i have already posted the question no response
[10:31] <ravishankar> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy?highlight=%28Ubuntu%29%7C%28Trademark%29%7C%28Policy%29
[10:31] <mauran> someone will answer u
[10:31] <livingdaylight> neo[wk] : http://www.swsoft.co.uk/ it is a front for Russian espionage?
[10:31] <ufoz> how i could fix that ?
[10:31] <ravishankar> ok I have a question about how to use the ubuntu logo in a loco team? where can I ask and clarify? I have already read http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy?highlight=%28Ubuntu%29%7C%28Trademark%29%7C%28Policy%29
[10:31] <mauran> can we modify aubuntu logo for use in loco teams?
[10:32] <ravishankar> mauran, i could not open a private chat with u..how to register in ubuntu irc channel like u
[10:32] <mauran> on our cd cover etc..
[10:32] <neo[wk] > livingdaylight, no:)
[10:32] <qetesh> thandavarayan I did "sudo modprobe snd-ens1371" then restarted alsa but still nothing
[10:33] <netstar> Hi I'm having troubles install GTK2 themes, many of them change colours but don't, however, show pixmaps or images that should be present
[10:33] <thandavarayan> qetesh: Is it with 6.10 or Dapper.
[10:33] <ifrozen> re
[10:34] <qetesh> thandavarayan it's 6.10 Edgy
[10:34] <qetesh> it didn't work "out of the box" with Dapper either, but I forget what I did to make it work
[10:35] <neo[wk] > livingdaylight, do you wants to work in the KGB?)
[10:35] <yango> is there a way to get a deb for an installed package with apt?
[10:36] <livingdaylight> neo[wk] : you can get me a job with Putin?
[10:36] <livingdaylight> neo[wk] : i think it doesn't pay well, and is too dangerous :)
[10:36] <towsonu2003> yango, you could search http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:36] <neo[wk] > livingdaylight, yes:)
[10:36] <Z_God> I'm trying to install edgy, but I get "There is no basefilesystem" on the partition screen
[10:36] <livingdaylight> neo[wk] : i'm Ubuntu man not KGB hatchet man
[10:36] <SavageNL> compudaze, Changing to radeon didn't change anything, also changing the resolution resulted in the black screen again
[10:36] <Z_God> is this a known bug?
[10:37] <livingdaylight> neo[wk] : Russians scare me :|
[10:37] <ayaa> where to submit firefox2.0 issues ?
[10:37] <thombone_> KASt attempt at Edgy now... did a dapper install, rebooted, now without doing anything else, trying an upgrade. Nothing else has worked, not even edgy from CD, eiping the drive, even with thre alt CD, so wish me luck, been at this all day ;)
[10:37] <neo[wk] > livingdaylight,  what kind of job you want?
[10:38] <compudaze> dont know what else to do
[10:38] <towsonu2003> ayaa, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bugs
[10:38] <drumline_> thombone_: http://desktoplinux.com/news/NS3291004537.html
[10:38] <compudaze> thats what i had to do to get the res i wanted
[10:39] <livingdaylight> neo[wk] : can i clean your Dacha?
[10:39] <ikor> neo[wk] , a secret task, in UK?
[10:39] <SavageNL> compudaze, ill go search the web some more then, learned some new stuff while doing this :)
[10:39] <neo[wk] > livingdaylight, no)
[10:39] <SavageNL> compudaze, thank you for your time
[10:39] <compudaze> np
[10:39] <netstar> Has anyone else experienced issues with gtk-pixmap based'themes in GNOME?
[10:40] <qetesh> ok I loaded the right module for my soundcard and still no sound
[10:40] <kholerabb2> can fspot view webcams?
[10:40] <qetesh> am I just missing a package?
[10:40] <netstar> All the themes I try are failing
[10:40] <netstar> qetesh try the gnome-volume-control
[10:40] <jc-denton> what app generates /etc/fstab under edgy?
[10:41] <jc-denton> i also setup windows after installing ubuntu
[10:41] <ravishankar> mauran, come to #ubuntu-locoteams, some one answering there
[10:41] <jc-denton> and i'm not sure if this is causing the problem
[10:41] <Acke_ubu> Hey guys, im tryng to understand gnu gpg. I have generated a public key with gpg --gen-key. Is that key all someone would need to encrypt and send the file to me. or is there aditional steps i need to take?
[10:41] <ckw> hi !
[10:42] <qetesh> netstar, thanks but that didn't do it. I had already put everything up to full blast with alsamixer
[10:42] <h0ser> Ok probably have a dumb question here, but is installing the AMD64 kernel image the same as if I installed the AMD64 of Dapper or  is it two different things?
[10:43] <ckw> hi
[10:43] <ckw> 
[10:44] <mcphail> h0ser: if you originally installed a 32bit version, you can't change to the 64bit kernel (unless something major changed in edgy)
[10:45] <jordan_> What is the command to hybernate?
[10:45] <h0ser> ahh thanks. But I could install the k7 version of the kernel? Would that be better than the 686 kernel?
[10:45] <factorx> ckw, no
[10:45] <mcphail> h0ser: you might notice a small increase in performance
[10:46] <h0ser> Thank you.
[10:46] <qetesh> my user's in the audio group, the module for my soundcard is loaded, my mixer settings are up to full?why, why, why no sound?
[10:47] <livingdaylight> neo[wk] : good luck Comrade
[10:47] <NigelS> qetesh: speakers not on? :)
[10:47] <netstar> did you check the mute buttons?
[10:47] <factorx> qtt
[10:47] <factorx> qetesh, I had the same problem yesterday
[10:47] <factorx> qetesh, try killall esd in console
[10:47] <ckw> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/quagga_0.99.4-4ubuntu1_i386.deb:  pre-removal 1
[10:47] <qetesh> NigelS, I'm using headphones that were working before upgrading
[10:47] <jc-denton> so the root partition doesn't show up under edgy when i type mount?
[10:48] <qetesh> ok factorx
[10:48] <jc-denton> i'm not the only person who has this problem..
[10:48] <thombone_> drumline_: thank you! reading
[10:48] <NigelS> qetesh: it was a flippant suggestion :) but yeah def check for mute and kill any sound daemons which can monopolise the ard
[10:48] <qetesh> killall esd seems to have had no effect
[10:49] <factorx> :/
[10:49] <NigelS> qetesh: is it even running? ps aux | grep esd
[10:49] <mcphail> qetesh: did it have no effect, or didi it show "no process killed"?
[10:50] <Acke_ubu> !gpg
[10:50] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[10:50] <deep> How can i count results im getting with ls?
[10:50] <neo[wk] > !fglrx
[10:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:51] <factorx> deep, wc -l
[10:51] <mcphail> deep: ls -l | wc -l
[10:51] <deep> thx
[10:51] <pablasso> please tell me that theres something to recover deleted files in ext3
[10:51] <qetesh> mcphail, no effect
[10:51] <qetesh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29339
[10:51] <mcphail> pablasso: photorec
[10:52] <pablasso> mcphail: that works for any type of file? i just deleted a bunch of php and html files from work
[10:52] <Gnabbe> is there any good wireless tutorial? I just installed edgy (plus network-manager) and i'm trying to access the wlan in school but it just can't find any
[10:52] <sc0tt> that wasn't smart pablasso :>
[10:52] <mcphail> pablasso: not any type, but it does support a lot
[10:52] <mcphail> pablasso: google for the latest version and check out what it can find
[10:53] <Zaggynl> yay, new wine is out
[10:53] <pablasso> thanks, ive been working on this all weekend and just deleted it.. im really going to kill myself if i dont recover them
[10:53] <factorx> qetesh, you should kill esd and everything that has to do with it
[10:53] <qetesh> factorx, I thought I did
[10:54] <factorx> qetesh, try sudo killall esd
[10:54] <qetesh> I did
[10:54] <qetesh> factorx it came up "esd: no process killed"
[10:56] <factorx> qetesh, maybe you should try a SIGKILL. sudo kill -9 <esd pid>
[10:57] <jordan_> qtesh, there is one pretty definitive test to see if sound works at all, first TURN YOUR SPEAKERS DOWN as this might make a verry load noise and `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp`
[10:57] <noelferreira> hi people, any help with rt61 wireless driver?
[10:57] <qetesh> factorx, esd isn't listed when I "ps -e"
[10:57] <qetesh> so I don't know how to get the PID, or even if that process is running
[10:57] <drumline_> ps aux | grep process_name
[10:58] <factorx> qetesh, the PID is the second column from the left in ps aux
[10:58] <qetesh> ok so I sid sudo kill -9 10038
[10:59] <drumline_> getesh: if that's the process ID, yes.
[10:59] <qetesh> still no sound
[10:59] <factorx> mmh
[10:59] <drumline_> getesh, try a normal 'kill' first without the -9, then try with the -9
[10:59] <factorx> are you now sure, the process isn't running anymore? check again with ps aux
[10:59] <qetesh> still not hearing anything
[10:59] <^Down> Hi. When I try to do "sudo umount /dev/hdb", I keep getting this "umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy". How do I stop it from doing that?
[11:00] <drumline_> getesh: it really should be piped through grep...  ps aux yields a lot of info
[11:00] <qetesh> factorx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29343
[11:01] <qetesh> I don't know what to make of that
[11:01] <factorx> ^Down, are you in /media/cdrom0 in any shell, or filebrowser?
[11:01] <^Down> i'm in /media/
[11:02] <^Down> oh shoot
[11:02] <^Down> I was
[11:02] <^Down> Just in another tab.
[11:02] <jc-denton> humm
[11:02] <factorx> qetesh, kill -9 every pid that has anything to do with esd
[11:02] <jc-denton> so why the fuck is / commented out in /etc/fstab
[11:02] <jordan_> How do I hybernate from the terminal?
[11:03] <drumline_> jc-: language.. :)
[11:03] <rapha> Hi all!
[11:03] <Gecko> Edgy contains a new init system, right? Where can I read more about it?
[11:03] <yango> how do I solve "package foo has no candidate for installatioon"?
[11:03] <jme> !upstart
[11:03] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[11:03] <jorik> Gecko: upstart ? try upstart.ubuntu.com
[11:03] <qetesh> factorx, all killed, but still no sound. do I need another package or something?
[11:04] <jme> that's outdated, as it's already in Edgy
[11:04] <rapha> When I have a computer with Dapper installed on it, which only ever used Ubuntu's repositories, then I can apt-get dist-upgrade to Edgy without running into problems, right?
[11:04] <livingdaylight> i've added german and english dictionary extensions in firefox but don't see them anywhere. You know how to find them/open them?
[11:04] <factorx> qetesh, dunno... I had the same problem yesterday and I solved it killing esd
[11:04] <factorx> +by
[11:04] <^Down> does anyone know of some software that will allow me to make an image of a CD?
[11:04] <incorrect> hi, whats the difference between server and desktop? just default packages?
[11:05] <^Down> Server is basically command line
[11:05] <Zero_zip>  !!!!!
[11:05] <^Down> no GUI
[11:05] <KenSentMe> !server | incorrect
[11:05] <ubotu> incorrect: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[11:05] <holycow> ^Down, put cd in, right click on cd and select copy cd
[11:05] <gemidjy_> is there way to install Ubuntu from ISO without a CD (to mount it and install it somhow)?
[11:05] <holycow> done
[11:05] <holycow> right click on cd on desktop
[11:05] <Zero_zip> I IS ROSHIAN!
[11:05] <Zero_zip> I IS ROSHIAN!
[11:05] <holycow> is what i meant
[11:05] <incorrect> ty
[11:05] <^Down> Thanks holycow
 LF!!!!
[11:05] <sharada> what is the xconfig tool on ubuntu? how does one change monitor resolution?
 YES!
[11:06] <holycow> no biggie, gnome baker is an alternate
[11:06] <qetesh> what's weird is that the startup beep still sounds
[11:06] <Gecko> jme: hmm, how come the basic commands of upstart, such as initctl aren't available in my edgy? That would indicate it's not installed, right?
[11:06] <jwise> hello world:P
[11:06] <Zero_zip> =)))
[11:06] <qetesh> not through the headphones of course, but through the pc speaker
[11:06] <noelferreira> people need help with rt61 driver in fresh edgy
[11:06] <noelferreira> anyone?
[11:06] <mnepton> Gecko: upstart is aprt of all edgy installations
[11:06] <thombone_> WOW it installed :) (edgy) and seems just peachy... no wlan though... I have an acx111 card and I remember something about having to change a symbolic link to some other firmware version, but can't remember what to do, ugh
[11:06] <holycow> Gecko, you upgraded to edgy? hmmm maybe it kept initv instead
[11:06] <holycow> interesting
[11:06] <incorrect> stupid question, but how is the kernel optimised for a server?
[11:06] <jordan_> qetesh: what happens if you do: echo "test" > /dev/dsp ?
[11:06] <jme> Gecko: I'm pretty sure it's installed
[11:06] <Zero_zip> ROSSIYA IBET AMERIKU?
[11:07] <holycow> incorrect, its not, there is no difference  between server and desktop
[11:07] <Gecko> holycow: yes, it's an upgrade, but I'm pretty certain that this isn't sysvinit :)
[11:07] <livingdaylight> wow, very very very hard to get help here today
[11:07] <jme> find it in synaptic, I guess
[11:07] <jme> it's part of the core system
[11:07] <Gecko> holycow: I just want some simple confirmation that it's running on my system
[11:07] <Zero_zip> HELLO
[11:07] <scheuri> !ru
[11:07] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:07] <incorrect> it says it is,
[11:07] <jwise> livingday light,what's your matter?
[11:07] <holycow> incorrect, its just that server doesn't require desktop apps ... that is ist just the same install minus a bunch of useless stuff
[11:07] <qetesh> jordan_ : absolutely nothing
[11:07] <incorrect> Ubuntu server install by default a server optimized kernel
[11:07] <Zero_zip>   !!!!!
[11:07] <^Down> =( I'm using KDE so there is no CD on my desktop
[11:07] <holycow> Gecko, upstart is new to me so i dont know :/ sorry
[11:07] <jordan_> qetesh: No output at all in the terminal?
[11:07] <jme> there's no such thing as a " server optimized kernel", incorrect
[11:08] <holycow> ^Down, it appears on gnome too
[11:08] <jwise> Zero_zip,what did you say?
[11:08] <rapha> Hello! Can somebody tell me if it is safe to update to Edgy on a clean Dapper install?
[11:08] <qetesh> jordan_ : that's correct
[11:08] <holycow> ^Down, you haveto put the cd in tho
[11:08] <holycow> first
[11:08] <incorrect> jme, i know that, i just wondered why they wrote it
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[11:08] <jme> rapha: generally
[11:08] <livingdaylight> Zero_zip: Pozhaluista
[11:08] <^Down> I know that :P
[11:08] <holycow> >_>
[11:08] <jme> you should back up your home folder first
[11:08] <scheuri> rapha: if your install is "clean" (read fresh) why not installing if from an edgy-CD
[11:08] <DarkFlib> rapha: a clean edgy install might be easier then
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[11:08] <jme> (as before any upgrade)
[11:08] <^Down> 1 sec going to try konqueror
[11:08] <scheuri> Zero_zip: Speak English please!
[11:08] <rapha> scheuri: not that clean. Clean as in "only used Ubuntu repos"
[11:08] <DarkFlib> ahh
[11:08] <scheuri> rapha: ah, sorry..
[11:09] <livingdaylight> Zero_zip: Ne-za-chto
[11:09] <jme> rapha: yeah, another option is to back up your ~, and then just drop it into an Edgy install
[11:09] <mnepton> kak pa Russky "please use #ubuntu-ru for conversations in Russian!"
[11:09] <jme> it will probably be fine to upgrade
[11:09] <jordan_> qetesh: And cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp produces no sound either ? ( remember it may be laud if it works )
[11:09] <holycow> ^Down, oh i thought you said you WEREN'T using kde
[11:09] <holycow> omg :)
[11:09] <rapha> jme: that's what I wanted to avoid. ~ is already backed up to a remote server tho, so no probs in losing it
[11:09] <holycow> ^Down, sorry, try gnomebaker anyway
[11:09] <jme> if not, the worst case scenario is you pull your files off and reinstall
[11:09] <holycow> or k3b
[11:09] <incorrect> im tempted to move over to ubuntu from debian, is it possible to migrate ?
[11:09] <scheuri> rapha: do you have your /home on a seperate partition? and all your data, too?
[11:09] <jme> yeah, I'd just go for it
[11:09] <holycow> either of those will do it and run in kde fine
[11:09] <jwise> 
[11:09] <^Down> Alright, thanks :D
[11:09] <rapha> scheuri: not on a sep part, but backed up to a remote server
 Ty znaesh' Russkiy?
[11:09] <jme> make sure you have a few hours to donwload
 Ty znaesh' Russkiy?
[11:10] <livingdaylight> Zero_zip: Da
[11:10] <holycow> incorrect, not really, backup home and do a complete fresh install, it will keep you sane
[11:10] <|Bot|> #ubuntu-ru
[11:10] <qetesh> jordan_ no sound and it seems to be hanging up on the task as the prompt hasn't returned
[11:10] <stm> so join #ubuntu-ru
[11:10] <holycow> people claim its technical possible but i've yet to see it
[11:10] <netstar> I was wondering, does anyone know of a guide to enable dropshadows only, minus all the wobbly crap in GNOME on edgy?
[11:10] <incorrect> holycow, oh ill just wait till i replace the servers then
[11:10] <mrpk``> hi. i need some help while installing ipw2100 on my Acer Laptop. I compiled and installed  ieee80210 and ipw2100 modules but i get this error msg while loading the module : http://paste.debian.net/15806
[11:10] <scheuri> rapha: well, little advise for the future...I personally want to have /home on seperate partition...you could just upgrade without touching your /home (backing it up anyway of course)
[11:10] <jordan_> qetesh: Ok, just ctrl+c to end it.
[11:10] <mrpk``> can anybody help me ? :)
[11:10] <livingdaylight> Zero_zip:  Ya ne gavareeu na angliyskom?
[11:10] <rapha> jme: plenty of hours available... and a pretty fast connection too. I just wanted to know if all the probs ppl are talkin about are related to having installed software from 3rd-party repos or also with Ubuntu's own repos
[11:10] <holycow> incorrect, if your running debian on servers stick with it
[11:10] <jme> holycow: are you saying an upgrade isn't possible?
[11:10] <holycow> ubuntu on servers is insane
[11:10] <|Bot|> livingdaylight# go to #ubuntu-ru
[11:10] <qetesh> no sound at the GDM screen. no sound after login... just no sound
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[11:11] <holycow> jme, closer to improbable than impossible
 Net!
[11:11] <incorrect> holycow, really? why is that?
[11:11] <scheuri> rapha: that is a good question...would love to find out too...
[11:11] <jme> I mean, it worked fine for me, holycow
[11:11] <mnepton> Zero_zip: please speak english.
[11:11] <rapha> scheuri: Some computers you can do this on, others it is harder with. I generally do it, but that one I couldn't, for several reasons not important here.
[11:11] <livingdaylight> I really really really need help!
[11:11] <netstar> qetesh be thankful you weren't an Apple iMac G5 owner before edgy
[11:11] <holycow> incorrect, well freezing UNSTABLE every 6 months and calling it server is just stupid imho
[11:11] <jme> I think reports are highly overblown - you don't hear from people for whom it worked
[11:11] <scheuri> rapha: well, I just wanted to mention it...:)
[11:11] <leafw> is there any way to hide the frame of a window for specific applications? For example, the gnome-terminal
[11:11] <rapha> scheuri: Well, I might try it out :-)
[11:11] <rapha> scheuri: sure, thanks :)
[11:11] <holycow> only sarge is trully stable and therefore server class
[11:11] <leafw> it's easy in kde, but in gnome? No clue!
[11:11] <mrpk``> can anybody help me ? :)
[11:11] <Gecko> Ok, I did not have upstart installed
[11:11] <mrpk``> hi. i need some help while installing ipw2100 on my Acer Laptop. I compiled and installed  ieee80210 and ipw2100 modules but i get this error msg while loading the module : http://paste.debian.net/15806
[11:12] <livingdaylight> help!
[11:12] <qetesh> netstar I wouldn't worry much then because I'd be running OS X Tiger ;)
[11:12] <holycow> ubuntu should setup a separate server team and just offer server support for debian
[11:12] <holycow> could make lots of money
[11:12] <scheuri> holycow: 6.06 came a long way thought...:)
[11:12] <holycow> i'd pay
[11:12] <netstar> qetesh I hate it
[11:12] <jme> livingdaylight: what's your question?
[11:12] <netstar> Well not hate
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[11:12] <incorrect> holycow, 6 months isn't too bad depending on what you are doing
[11:12] <qetesh> why's that netstar?
[11:12] <netstar> I just prefer Linux
[11:12] <Gecko> mrpk``: did you compile that module yourself?
[11:12] <holycow> scheuri, its still frozen unstable
[11:12] <mrpk``> yes
[11:12] <qetesh> me too netstar
[11:12] <netstar> It's unresponsive
[11:12] <livingdaylight> jme: my /grub/menu.lst
[11:12] <mnepton> !ru | Zero_zip
[11:12] <ubotu> Zero_zip: Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:12] <qetesh> except at moment like these
[11:12] <netstar> lol
[11:12] <jme> well, they recommend LTS for production servers
[11:12] <holycow> incorrect, i runn production servers, NO WAY am i EVERY going to run anything from debian unstable
[11:12] <holycow> even with support
[11:12] <holycow> its just nuts
[11:13] <leafw> anybody experiencing 15-minute delays in opening applications after waking up from suspended mode (apple laptop) ?
[11:13] <mrpk``> geck
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[11:13] <holycow> for me anyway, i don't have the time to hunt down weirdo issues
[11:13] <livingdaylight> jme: its a mess. I was trying to install on my other hardrive and i get ped_disc_duplicate error and i don't know what it means
[11:13] <incorrect> holycow, i often get into a mess with debian being out of date with some of the things i get asked to run
[11:13] <qetesh> hey guys wait a minute
[11:13] <jme> no idea, sorry
[11:13] <mrpk``> Gecko: i compiled it myselvm based on this tutorial http://frealek.dotnode.com/blog/view/177
[11:13] <qetesh> my headphones were plugged into the wrong jack in the back
[11:13] <edgy> Hi, how can I download a dvd of edgy?
[11:13] <Gecko> mrpk``: ok, hold on
[11:13] <mnepton> !ops
[11:13] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[11:13] <livingdaylight> jme: on my /grub/menu.lst i see that edgy is twice on there. What is generic?
[11:13] <holycow> incorrect, that is an issue yes
[11:13] <jme> edgy: CD is fine
[11:13] <incorrect> i think im going to run up a ubuntu server on my vmware box and see how it goes
[11:13] <mrpk``> thx
[11:13] <livingdaylight> !paste
[11:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:13] <Madpilot> mnepton, ?
[11:14] <qetesh> that blue one sure looked green in the dark back there
[11:14] <frederick85> problems, My gaim window won't open and I can't create a GPG key, what shall I do
[11:14] <netstar> cry?
[11:14] <Gecko> mrpk``: that tutorial includes compiling your own kernel. Did you do that?
[11:14] <mnepton> Madpilot: Zero_zip seems to be unwilling or unable to take the hint to speak english and use #ubuntu-ry for russian
[11:14] <netstar> Ah yeah why am I here now
[11:14] <jme> livingdaylight: I've got Edgy on there twice too, once for recovery mode
[11:14] <slinky_> Hello, is there a 2GB limit of filesize creation using tar?
[11:14] <qetesh> netstar why do you prefer Ubuntu to OS X?
[11:14] <^Down> =( gnomebaker keeps crashing
[11:14] <edgy> jme: but  I have very slow connection at home so I can't download more software. but at work I have a very fast connection this is why I want to download a dvd
[11:15] <jme> not sure if anyone's rolled a DVD together
[11:15] <netstar> qetesh, because I'm so used to UNIX, I find OSX oversimplified, good for my mum, but not for me
[11:15] <Madpilot> Zero_zip, last warning: Please use #ubuntu-ru for Russian language...
[11:15] <mnepton> slinky_: there definitely will be on FAT32
[11:15] <livingdaylight> jme: no, two entries please look: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29344/
[11:15] <mrpk``> Gecko: no i didnt. reason : my kernel is up2date as i installed ubuntu 3 days ago and made apt-get upgrade ...
[11:15] <jme> I'd suggest downloading the CD image, and also any extra packages you need, edgy
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[11:15] <jme> livingdaylight: that's normal
[11:15] <livingdaylight> jme: two edgy kernel entries
[11:15] <jordan_> qetesh: I am running Ubuntu on a mac for all of the FOSS that you can't get on OS x, and the Freedom.
[11:15] <edgy> jme: but how can I tell the dependencies then?
[11:15] <slinky_> mnepton: archive file was written to an ext3 drive
[11:16] <incorrect> i know someone who is mad enough to run gentoo on his production boxes
[11:16] <jme> it means you have different kernels available, happens whenever you do a kernel upgrade
[11:16] <incorrect> but then again i hear he likes pain
[11:16] <livingdaylight> jme: did you look? what is generic opposed to edgy entry without generic?
[11:16] <holycow> incorrect, hehehe
[11:16] <jme> edgy: you can view the dependencies on the package search site
[11:16] <scheuri> gentoo on productive servers...yea, right
[11:16] <Gecko> mrpk``: ok, well that's your reason then. The errors you get are because the cryptography modules needed for this driver to work aren't available in your kernel
[11:16] <sonistar> hello everyone, could anyone please help me with something?
[11:16] <holycow> incorrect,  a friend of mine runs bsd ... took him a week to compile kde
[11:16] <incorrect> i was thinking ubuntu might be a happy halfway house
[11:16] <jme> livingdaylight: generic = kernel for all 386 processors
[11:16] <holycow> >_>
[11:16] <qetesh> I hear you jordan_ , I'm a switcher, from OS X to Ubuntu
[11:16] <jme> it's the current kernel
[11:16] <jordan_> !ask | sonistar
[11:16] <ubotu> sonistar: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:16] <leafw> !ubotu anyone | sonistar
[11:16] <incorrect> holycow, which bsd? open/free/net ?
[11:16] <jme> Edgy doesn't use the old different architecure kernels anymore
[11:16] <leafw> !anyone | sonistar
[11:16] <ubotu> sonistar: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:16] <thombone_> anyone know a fix for edgy to get an acx111 based wireless card working?
[11:16] <holycow> free
[11:16] <^Down> holycow: do you know of any other software that will make an iso of a disk?
[11:17] <edgy> jme: ok I will do but the problem is for one package there may be 15 dependencies and each one have it's own so it's a headache
[11:17] <PFA> oh my god guys so apparently at 1 AM today my compuz clock thought it was standard time day AGAIN and fell back a second time. SO i went into time settings and fixed it up and synchronized with teh servers, but it says if i want to AUTOMATICALLY synchronize it then i must get NTP support and there was a button that said "install NTP support" so i clicked it and it installed but now when i try to click AUTOMATICALLY synchronize it still says t
[11:17] <PFA> he same thing so what is wrong?
[11:17] <livingdaylight> jme: did you look at my list? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29344/
[11:17] <Gecko> mrpk``: You might want to consider reading the tutorials on the wiki for recompiling the kernel
[11:17] <jme> yeah, could be a pain
[11:17] <jme> maybe you can find a way to download ALL the packages, edgy...
[11:17] <thombone_> I know it defaults to the wrong firmware, old bug that is, but forget what to change it to
[11:17] <jme> livingdaylight: yeah, I looked
[11:17] <qetesh> jordan_ I can't stand proprietary software anymore. the thought of typing in some hacked serial number to register an app seems like a joke now
[11:17] <mrpk``> Gecko: i dont get that.. my kernel did already work with the ipw2100 drivers ubuntu came with.  i just wanted to re-install current versions of ipw2100 and ieee80210...
[11:17] <livingdaylight> jme: and its normal? shux...
[11:17] <leafw> qetesh : welcome to freedom. Now you own your computer.
[11:17] <edgy> jme: ok thx i will take a look
[11:17] <jme> seriously, having both 2.6.17-10-386 and 2.6.17-10-generic is normal
[11:18] <jme> I don't know of an easy way to do it, edgy
[11:18] <jme> sorry
[11:18] <Gecko> mrpk``: yes, but the headers for the 802.11x part weren't available when you compiled it, so that's why it fails
[11:18] <livingdaylight> jme: all i know is since i've installed edgy on sda1 i've got problems installing anything on sdb5. Ped_disc_duplicated errors come up at partitionphase of installation
[11:18] <holycow> ^Down, you mean other than gnome baker and k3b?
[11:18] <holycow> i thought i told you about those already
[11:18] <Gecko> mrpk``: you should stick with the ubuntu version of the drivers
[11:19] <holycow> ^Down, change your nick bro, its too hard to type >_>
[11:19] <mrpk``> Gecko: too late but a good hint :)
[11:19] <Gecko> :)
[11:19] <sonistar> i just recently switched to ubuntu dapper drake, so far im loving it completely, only thing is that i need to now get flash mx running now, it says its fully supported in this version of ubuntu but as im still in the windows view of things i cant get anything to work, could someone please run through how to do it with me? its kinda urgent, my university work depends on me having flash
[11:19] <ckw> 
[11:19] <slinky_> mnepton: tar aborted due to a previous error but terminal log scrolled off window due to size and am unable to determine the error, only thing i can think of is that file aborted at 2GB, using ext3
[11:19] <jme> I could go for a pomegranate
[11:19] <ckw> 
[11:20] <holycow> sonistar, basically forget macromedia flash mx on anything but windows
[11:20] <netstar> has anyone enabled drop shadows in GNOME?
[11:20] <mnepton> sonistar: Flash MX is a Flash authoring tool, not a player. Flash MX does not run natively on Linux.
[11:20] <holycow> i bought crossover and it doesn't even work there
[11:20] <ckw> 
[11:20] <D0wn> :D
[11:20] <livingdaylight> jme: gkdesu grub/menu.lst ?
[11:20] <holycow> sonistar, which version btw ... my 2k4 didn't work
[11:20] <D0wn> Holycow, there :D
[11:20] <aidehua> Firefox2 uses different fonts in 6.10 to Firefox1.5 in 6.06.  How can I get back to my nice old FF1.5 / 6.06 fonts?
[11:20] <mnepton> slinky_: the Linux kernel has supported 64 bit file descriptors for years. and ext3 certainly does.
[11:20] <holycow> D0wn, mucho bettah
[11:20] <jme> what's a gkdesu?
[11:20] <holycow> :)
[11:20] <sonistar> holycow - it says its platinum on the compatibility list
[11:20] <holycow> sonistar, really? url?
[11:21] <sonistar> wait a sec
[11:21] <holycow> maybe its ebay time :)
[11:21] <mnepton> holycow: uhhh ... Flash MX works really, REALLY well on OSX ;)
[11:21] <slinky_> mnepton: is there any way to capture the entire terminal log to a file for viewing after program abort?
[11:21] <holycow> mnepton, whats osx >_>
[11:21] <mrpk``> Gecko: what do i do now ? puttin ubuntu dic back to drive and re-install ubuntu ? :'(
[11:21] <holycow> *giggle*
[11:21] <holycow> :)
[11:22] <mnepton> slinky_: tar -cvf tarfile.name /path/to/stuff > tar.log
[11:22] <jc-denton> can i order ubuntu stickers w/o cds?
[11:22] <holycow> you know, for a ocmpany like adobe that uses qt for their apps ... i thin kmacro did too ... its a shame they cannot do cross platform stuff
[11:22] <DaGame> I'ma tatti pusher
[11:22] <slinky_> thank you mnepton
[11:22] <jc-denton> with order i mean getting them for free.. :D
[11:22] <mnepton> holycow: i'm sure they could do it. they just choose not to.
[11:22] <Gecko> mrpk``: no, that shouldn't be necessary. Try apt-get --reinstall install <name of your driver>
[11:22] <holycow> mnepton, that REALLY gets under the skin
[11:22] <holycow> and i got money to spend
[11:22] <D0wn> holycow: trying k3b, if that doesn't work, i'm going to try out mkisofs
[11:23] <holycow> -_-
[11:23] <sonistar> http://appdb.winehq.com/appview.php?iVersionId=1027
[11:23] <holycow> D0wn, it'll work, k3b is amazing
[11:23] <sonistar> there u go holycow
[11:23] <mrpk``> Gecko: apt didnt find the package
[11:23] <holycow> sonistar, thanks!
[11:23] <sonistar> np, hopefully someone can help me now!
[11:23] <rausb0> sonistar: running something in wine is NOT native linux
[11:23] <holycow> sonistar, o this is the pre 2004 version
[11:23] <scheuri> sonistar and holycow: that is wine, not crossover actually, right?
[11:23] <holycow> dagnabit
[11:24] <Gecko> mrpk``: so, what exactly did you do that made the previous driver unavailable?
[11:24] <factorx> which gui app can you recommend for cd burning?
[11:24] <holycow> scheuri, well crossover is the 'good' version of wine i guess
[11:24] <sonistar> yeah crossover is the subscription wine
[11:24] <Gecko> holycow: when it comes to functionality yes, but not license
[11:24] <Madpilot> factorx, for data CDs, just use the file manager - Nautilus. For audio, Serpentine.
[11:25] <holycow> Gecko, i'm okay with the licence, but you are right
[11:25] <holycow> i figure i should pay for some of this
[11:25] <factorx> Madpilot, can nautilus handle ISOs?
[11:25] <HeathenDan> in ubuntu's add/remove utility, i noticed separate entries for OOo Writer, Calc, etc... does this mean I can install OOo with only specific components (word processing and spreadsheet)?
[11:25] <sonistar> shit, so I wont be able to run flash?
[11:25] <holycow> well if you have this version yes
[11:25] <Madpilot> factorx, of course. Just rightclick on the ISO, choose 'burn to CD', done.
[11:25] <mrpk``> Gecko : the previous driver worked ( i found some networks ) but there were some issues about my laptop hotkeys and kismet. i used an un-installation script provided by the NEW drivers..!
[11:25] <sonistar> i have flash mx
[11:25] <qetesh> anyone running flash 9 beta?
[11:25] <factorx> Madpilot, cool. thank you
[11:25] <holycow> the 2004 mx version uses some bizarro version of ie, for its ui, its a totally crap version
[11:25] <scheuri> qetesh: aye...
[11:25] <jokesrus> hey i use xgl/beryl/gnome and i wonder if anyone has found how to restore the shutdown button
[11:25] <sonistar> :(
[11:26] <sonistar> i just spent all weekend installing linux
[11:26] <holycow> sonistar, according to this you should be able to yes, but i'm no wine expert
[11:26] <Madpilot> factorx, when you put a blank CD in, you should get a popup asking what sort of burning you want to do
[11:26] <qetesh> scheuri is there a deb file anywhere or do I have to install from the tar.gz source?
[11:26] <sonistar> and now ill have to go back
[11:26] <D0wn> holycow: it's working so far. Thanks :D
[11:26] <Gecko> mrpk``: ok, just find out what files it removed (and replaced, so that should be easy) and search for one of them at packages.ubuntu.com - then you can do the apt-get --reinstall part
[11:26] <riaal> Is there any other way then to ping to se of a remote computer is running?
[11:26] <jordan_> qetesh: I am too
[11:26] <scheuri> qetesh: I installed it by tar.gz...is not that difficult...everything is in the README...
[11:26] <holycow> D0wn, de nada
[11:26] <bony> i have a problem with dbus-daemon. when ever i start gnome i get a window saying "there was an error starting the GNOME settings daemon". i checked out forums and also bugs but there seems to be no solutions for this? if some one could help me out then i can see the new clearlook them the current them is similar to that of win98 which i hate.
[11:26] <holycow> sonistar, dont get sad, you can run it appearently :)
[11:26] <sonistar> really?
[11:27] <holycow> you just need instructions on how to install it and configure wine
[11:27] <qetesh> thanks scheuri I'll check it out
[11:27] <sonistar> i suck at following instructions for linux, ive screwed up everytime so far
[11:27] <sonistar> :p
[11:27] <jordan_> !flash9 | qetesh
[11:27] <ubotu> qetesh: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[11:27] <Vuen> hey guys, if i use qtparted and i tell it to shrink a vfat partition, will it automatically move the data? or is it just going to cut it off and lose a bunch of data?
[11:27] <riaal> If I know a hostname how do I look up the Ip?
[11:27] <slinky_> lol sonistar, we must be related
[11:28] <holycow> sonistar, thats okay, it takes some time to learn the base skillset.  people say windows is easy but they forget they have 15 years of runnint windows AS ROOT
[11:28] <sonistar> :)
[11:28] <scheuri> riaal: "nslookup HOSTNAME"
[11:28] <Gecko> riaal: try with nslookup or host or dig
[11:28] <holycow> the dimwits don't realize what that means... i.e. its not easier they are just running completely insecure systems
[11:28] <sonistar> i just NEED linux to run flash and photoshop
[11:28] <sonistar> if it does that ill be happy
[11:28] <riaal> Can't ping a hostname right? so I have to look it up frist?
[11:28] <holycow> sonistar, do you do print work by any chance?
[11:29] <holycow> if no gimp is a 100% replacement for photoshop, especially web dev
[11:29] <sonistar> holycow:  do i what?
[11:29] <mrpk``> ok thx for ur help Gecko
[11:29] <mrpk``> got to go
[11:29] <holycow> if you don't do any printwork , no need for ps
[11:29] <mrpk``> cu all
[11:29] <Gecko> mrpk``: you're welcome
[11:29] <sonistar> i see
[11:29] <sonistar> but i stilll need flash
[11:29] <holycow> i use gimp professionally as a web dev
[11:29] <sonistar> its necissary for my university
[11:29] <holycow> sonistar, we will haveto dig up some info for ya but i don't have time righ tnow
[11:29] <MAXDDARK> m
[11:29] <D0wn> I don't like gimp. I always have trouble with it.
[11:30] <slinky_> sonistar: linux only supports version 7
[11:30] <sonistar> holycow:  - ok, thanks anyway
[11:30] <deep> Im currently using ubuntu, with gnome and that. how can i uninstall (and purge) gnome and its unnessesary components, and install kde?
[11:30] <holycow> D0wn, all ps users say that and all people that have NEVER used ps find gimp super easy
[11:30] <D0wn> It has some usefull stuff, but photoshop has a lot more
[11:30] <holycow> its werid
[11:30] <sonistar> slinky_:  7 being flash mx?
[11:30] <holycow> not it doesn't
[11:30] <MAXDDARK> anyone installed beryl over edgy with ATI videocard ?
[11:30] <holycow> ps has a few things that gimp doesnt and gimp has a lot ps doesn't
[11:30] <jokesrus> yeah
[11:30] <livingdaylight> ist not gkdesu coz i just tried but what is it for opening guis?
[11:30] <holycow> its roughly equal
[11:30] <Bird> #ubuntu-th
[11:30] <aidehua> Firefox fonts looking rubbish: http://www.tropic.org.uk/~edward/ff-fonts/
[11:30] <jokesrus> MAXDDARK: i did
[11:30] <slinky_> sonistar, i'm not sure, short memory, i trashed it
[11:30] <Vuen> gksudo
[11:30] <holycow> biggest issue is no real cmyk support in gimp so you cant use it in print
[11:30] <Vuen> rofl desu
[11:30] <holycow> ... yet
[11:30] <MAXDDARK> I have a small problem with that - after I installed
[11:30] <thirdalbum> livingdaylight: kdesu or gksudo
[11:30] <Vuen> is that you anonymous?
[11:31] <sonistar> slinky_:  what was wrong with it? memory?
[11:31] <livingdaylight> thirdalbum: thx, i'm in gnome
[11:31] <qetesh> is there anyway to turn off IPv6 in firefox 2.0? there seems to be a DNS timeout for certain sites
[11:31] <livingdaylight> thirdalbum: what is it if it is not sudo, for opening guis?
[11:31] <holycow> is anyone actually using ipv6?
[11:31] <slinky_> sonistar: text formatted in flash, never appeared on the screen, only the boxes for the text
[11:31] <MAXDDARK>  but when I log to xgl/beryl session the window borders are switching constantly between gnome and xgl
[11:31] <MAXDDARK> I need to turn off gnome...or something
[11:31] <MAXDDARK> how do I do it ? , so it always work when I run xgl session ?
[11:32] <sonistar> I guess i'll have to go back to the dark side then (linux)
[11:32] <sonistar> i mean windows lol
[11:32] <holycow> MAXDDARK,  berryl, xgl, aiglx are all highly experimental
[11:32] <jordan_> deep, Are you running Edgy?
[11:32] <holycow> MAXDDARK, we cannot really offer any more advice beyond 'to fix it reinstall from scratch'
[11:32] <thirdalbum> livingdaylight: It's gksudo for Gnome, or kdesu for KDE
[11:32] <holycow> :/
[11:32] <holycow> sorry
[11:32] <MAXDDARK> yeah - but it worked on dapper
[11:32] <deep> jordan_: yep :)
[11:32] <slinky_> sonistar: ask around, i know very little on linux, even tho i've been doing puters since 1964
[11:32] <sonistar> ok thanks guys, ill go install windows again :(
[11:33] <jokesrus> MAXDDARK: i also had this problem the first couple of times but seems to be ok now
[11:33] <livingdaylight> thirdalbum: yes, thx
[11:33] <holycow> MAXDDARK, whenever running experimental or beta software its important to understand the 'way out'
[11:33] <holycow> :/
[11:33] <jordan_> deep: `sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop`
[11:33] <MAXDDARK> the way out I know...but I should have worked
[11:33] <jordan_> deep: Do that in a virtual terminal, not gnome terminal though.
[11:33] <deep> jordan_: Ooh, thanQ m8, i will try that :)
[11:33] <riaal> can I lookup the hostname whit an ip using nslookup (can't find it in manpage)
[11:33] <deep> jordan_: tty1 or something?
[11:34] <jordan_> deep: Yes.
[11:34] <deep> jordan_: and kill X?
[11:34] <thirdalbum> deep: It should work even in a Gnome terminal
[11:34] <jordan_> deep: yes, although it will do that automatically for you also.
[11:34] <Bird> who can i ask about firefox (i am beginner)
[11:34] <MAXDDARK> ok , other question
[11:34] <deep> Oh, okay, Well, ill try. Thanx :)
[11:34] <jordan_> thirdalbum: Wouldn't it stop when x stops?
[11:35] <riaal> does nslookup IP work? =S
[11:35] <thirdalbum> jordan_: Why would X stop? It's a common dependency
[11:35] <MAXDDARK> how can I xkill a program that is crashed on full screen ?
[11:35] <jordan_> thirdalbum: Because he is removing ubuntu-desktop.
[11:35] <yango> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/source/tzdata <--- how come I cannot install this package via apt-get ? it is not found :/
[11:35] <menko> Hi, I'm trying to install libtiff4-dev, but I get this error: libtiff4-dev: Depends: libtiff4 (= 3.7.4-1ubuntu3) but 3.7.4-1ubuntu3.2 is to be installed
[11:36] <thirdalbum> jordan_: Oh, yeah I see what you mean now
[11:36] <scheuri> yango: have you enabled more repositories like universe? or multiverse?
[11:36] <yango> scheuri, yes... and it is a base package
[11:36] <scheuri> yango: oh, sorry...
[11:36] <St_MPA3b> How can i install cursors?  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=28427
[11:36] <jme> MAXDDARK: try ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a terminal, and then use killall
[11:36] <menko> So I forced the install of it, but now when I try to install other things It tells me libtiff4-dev has unmet dependencies (and it cites the slightly diff version)
[11:36] <flasher> can someone help me by converting a midi to mp3, please?
[11:37] <holycow> so any windows users here have any 'why' questions? as in why does 'x' work this way instead of the ms way?
[11:37] <holycow> :)
[11:37] <menko> All of my repositories currently in sources.list are official
[11:37] <livingdaylight> jme: could you look again,please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29346/  i've only pasted the sda entry. I see 4 entries. 2 for generic and 2 for 386 and one memtest
[11:37] <jme> why does Document Viewer suck so much :(
[11:37] <MAXDDARK> killall wil kill every program , it's like doing ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:37] <holycow> jme, compared to what definition of suck?
[11:37] <holycow> its actually quite good overall
[11:37] <menko> Could someone please try to install libtiff4-dev , please, and see if it installs?
[11:38] <jordan_> holycow: Why does Ubuntu work, as opposed to not working ( the MS way ) ;)
[11:38] <jme> not compared to xpdf
[11:38] <holycow> jordan_, ha!
[11:38] <holycow> jme, xpdf is great, i just hate the interface
[11:38] <menko> please, it's just a short ooperation
[11:38] <jme> livingdaylight: tbqh, that looks perfectly normal, though my experience with troubleshooting grub is practically nil
[11:39] <yango> holycow, i like kpdf
[11:39] <qetesh> OK I just upgraded to flashplayer 9 beta and now when I go to youtube it says I don't have flashplayer at all ?
[11:39] <holycow> kpdf is really great too indeed
[11:39] <jme> is Kate all it's cracked up to be?
[11:39] <jme> I might like to try a nicer editor
[11:39] <deep__> Hi again. I tried that "autoinstall ubuntu-desktop", but it doesnt seem to remove anything. :S
[11:39] <holycow> jme, do we start a bash argument here?
[11:39] <holycow> :)
[11:39] <St_MPA3b> How can i install cursors?  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=28427
[11:39] <deep__> Ooops
[11:40] <jordan_> deep__: Autoremove?
[11:40] <deep__> autoremove
[11:40] <yango> I'm just at a loss here, I cannot find the timezone database in no f*g package!
[11:40] <deep__> jordan_: yes :)
[11:40] <jme> bash is all I know :(
u forgot sudo?
[11:40] <yango> for dapper :/
[11:40] <D0wn> What is a website where i can find debian packages?
[11:40] <livingdaylight> jme: when booting up one doesn't want to be overwhelmed by options. One entry per os is enough...for Edgy alone i appear to have 4!
[11:40] <deep__> St_MPA3b: Nah, it uninstalled, but it was over in less then a second
[11:40] <deep__> I dont think it removed anything
[11:40] <deep__> and X is still running, and i can log in @ gnome
[11:40] <jme> yeah, you can uninstall old kernels if you want, livingdaylight
[11:40] <jordan_> deep, could you pastebin the output?
[11:40] <menko> Could someone please try to install libtiff4-dev , please, and see if it installs? I get dependency errrors.
[11:40] <pablasso> ok, im gonna killmyself now
[11:41] <jme> pablasso: you have so much to live for!
[11:41] <deep__> jordan_: im at the TTY-terminals now, but w8 one sec
[11:41] <livingdaylight> jme: i'm talking about Edgy along right now. 4 entries for one kernel
[11:42] <jme> two kernels: 2.6.17-10-generic and 2.6.17-10-386
[11:42] <jme> they're compiled with different settings
[11:42] <deep__> jordan_: its installing kde now, so i cant fetch the output. But it said finished, like it should. It just said "Finished uninstalling ubuntu-desktop"
[11:43] <jme> but you can get rid of -386 safely
[11:43] <deep__> jordan_: i guess ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package (or what they are called), and the actual packages werent removed
[11:43] <holycow> menko, works fine on edgy here
[11:43] <jordan_> deep__: Ok, are you on a fast connection ( ie will kubuntu-desktop be installed fairly quickly ) ?
[11:44] <menko> holycow: ugh, I wonder why it doesn't work for me!
[11:44] <deep__> jordan_: yeah, there downloaded and ready. The output is "setting up ****"
[11:44] <holycow> menko, try another repo
[11:44] <deep__> jordan_: wont take too long
[11:44] <jordan_> deep__: Autoremove should remove any dependencies also
[11:44] <menko> holycow: which one is the one you are using?
[11:45] <deep__> Hum, so if i autoremove gnome-desktop now, it will remove kde too?
[11:45] <D0wn> How can I create a bootable disk? just burn the ISO?
[11:45] <jordan_> deep__: No.
[11:45] <holycow> ca
[11:45] <deep__> jordan_: Okay. Ill try again, and ill fetch the output to you.
[11:45] <BooBar> D0wn: y
[11:45] <deep__> =D
[11:45] <sparkling> hi all
[11:45] <jordan_> deep__: Do it from KDE so gnome doesn't quit on you.
[11:46] <D0wn> BooBar, what do you mean "y"?
[11:46] <BooBar> How can I create a bootable disk? just burn the ISO?   Y
[11:46] <sparkling> does exist a gui interface for the command pppoe instead of the shell command pon and poff? thanks
[11:47] <deep__> jordan_: Now it just sais that ubuntu-desktop isnt installed. :O
[11:47] <D0wn> Because I want to make a bootable disk...?
[11:47] <jordan_> deep__: What about sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[11:47] <deep__> jordan_: thats what i did,
[11:47] <BooBar> D0wn: lets start again.
[11:47] <deep__> jordan_: :S
[11:48] <menko> holycow: could you perhaps post your sources.list online? please.
[11:48] <D0wn> I want to burn an iso to a disk and boot off the disk
[11:48] <jordan_> deep__: I mean Just apt-get autoremove, not autoremove ubuntu-desktop.
[11:48] <holycow> menko, gimme pastebin url
[11:48] <deep__> jordan_: aha, okay, w8
[11:48] <BooBar> have you got an iso
[11:48] <D0wn> But, i just don't know if there is anything special I need to do, other than burn the iso
[11:48] <D0wn> Yes
[11:48] <deep__> 0 upgraded, 0 new installed, 0 blah blah
[11:48] <deep__> jordan_: nothing
[11:48] <BooBar> what iso is it
[11:49] <jordan_> D0wn: Burning the iso should be all you need to do.
[11:49] <iwkse> how to run sudo with echo? eg. sudo echo "something" >> /etc/apt/sources.lst
[11:49] <D0wn> Alright, thanks jordan_ :)
[11:49] <deep__> iwkse: try "sudo -s" then "echo...." ?
[11:49] <iwkse> ok :p
[11:50] <iwkse> isn't possible to have it together?
[11:50] <RiGLEY> Can I safely remove Evolution? If so, ..how? I don't want to mess up my system. Oh I'm a newbie :)
[11:50] <rausb0> iwkse: sudo sh -c "echo blabla > ..."
[11:50] <jordan_> deep__: Install ubuntu-desktop again then run `apt-get remove ( not auto ) ubuntu-desktop` and pastebin the output.
[11:50] <menko> holycow: shouldn't you be giving me a pastebin url?
[11:50] <scheuri> !mysql
[11:50] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[11:50] <BooBar> so what if its an ISO of "my little pony" :)
[11:51] <BooBar> will it boot
[11:51] <holycow> menko, you expect me to actually google?
[11:51] <deep__> jordan_: okay. :)
[11:51] <yango> is anyone running Dapper here?
[11:51] <iwkse> rausb0: ok:) i made in this way but i forgot the -c
[11:51] <menko> holycow: ah.. http://pastebin.com
[11:51] <rausb0> iwkse: sudo sh -c "echo blubb >> /etc/..."   (the quotes are important)
[11:51] <scheuri> is there a website or search engine to find out which software is available in which version? and I am not talking about apt-cache
[11:52] <iwkse> rausb0: yeap
[11:52] <iwkse> it works
[11:52] <iwkse> ;)
[11:52] <deep__> jordan_: since im at TTY-terminals now, i cant pastebin, but, it sait "The following packages will be uninstalled: ubuntu-desktop ... Y/N?"
[11:52] <thee> scheuri packages.ubuntu.com ?
[11:52] <deep__> jordan_: nothing more then ubuntu-desktop
[11:52] <scheuri> thee: thanks
[11:52] <brosioz> hi all
[11:52] <brosioz> ehy a repository with w32codecs for my edgy ?
[11:53] <deep__> jordan_: "after uninstalling 45 kb of space will be freed"
[11:53] <coz_> deep__, ubuntu-desktop will only prevent dist-upgrade
[11:53] <jordan_> deep__: Strange, for me it says "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: ..."
[11:53] <yango> please, someone running dapper paste me an output of ls -la /usr/share/zoneinfo
[11:53] <coz_> you can reinstall it when you want to upgrade but it will reinstall whatever you are unitalling right now
[11:53] <coz_> uninstalling
[11:53] <deep__> coz_: So.. you know how i can remove gnome and everything following it?
[11:54] <holycow> menko, that one never works
[11:54] <holycow> not workin now
[11:54] <riaal> How do I list all open networkconnections? Like netstat-n in windows
[11:54] <rausb0> jordan_: deborphan might be a solution for deep__
[11:54] <holycow> gimme another one
[11:54] <coz_> deep__,  well I just got here so tell me what you want to do first..
[11:54] <jordan_> deep__: It may be because I used the alternate install CD which uses APT
[11:54] <deep__> coz_: I want to uninstall gnome and all that, and get KDE :)
[11:54] <deep__> jordan_: installed from livecd. :O
[11:55] <jordan_> rausb0: I have never used deborphan before, I will look into it but if you can help please do.
[11:55] <menko> holycow: ah wait, nevermind. In synaptic there was an option for me to choose which version I wanted! SO of course I selected the correct one and everything is fine now.
[11:55] <iwkse> rausb0: it doesn't...just allow it but doesnt write nothing into sources.lst
[11:55] <coz_> deep__, well to be honest, the best thing to do is to download the KDE version of edgy or whatever version you are using instead of going through all of that, the psssiblilty of breakingsojkmething is greater the way you are doing it
[11:55] <holycow> :)
[11:55] <iwkse> rausb0: i paste you the line..
[11:55] <deep__> Mabie i can install aptitude and let it destroy my system as before, aptitide is a great peace of software for linux-destroying.
[11:55] <coz_> deep__, also, download the alternative cd   it will give you more opions
[11:56] <riaal> Please, How do I list all open network connections?
[11:56] <infidel> what's broke on edgy?
[11:56] <rausb0> riaal: netstat --inet -an
[11:56] <iwkse> rausb0: sudo sh -c echo "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:56] <deep__> coz_: Okay.. ill do that => Sounds like a good idea.
[11:56] <riaal> Thanks rausb0 (almost tryed that one  ;) )
[11:56] <jordan_> coz_: It actually should not be a problem doing what he is doing.
[11:56] <aPilot> hi all
[11:56] <iwkse> infidel: i'm using edgy, it works great everything
[11:56] <rausb0> iwkse: wrong syntax
[11:56] <deep__> coz_: You dont know someway of getting a "minimal" ubuntu? i like to keep it as small as possible..
[11:56] <coz_> riaal, "system/adminstration/networking
[11:56] <thee> brosioz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats. follow instruction. works flawlessly.
[11:57] <rausb0> iwkse: sudo sh -c "echo deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:57] <aPilot> firefox is go down when load site whith flash embded
[11:57] <iwkse> och...
[11:57] <infidel> iwkse, i get a python error with the package manger
[11:57] <rausb0> iwkse: note the position of the first quote
[11:57] <iwkse> infidel: what kind of error?
[11:57] <iwkse> yes, rausb0
[11:57] <coz_> deep__, well ubuntu is failry small foot print right off the cd.. my suggestion is to google the qestion for an hour, lol, it will probably tke thatlong, to see what others have done to minimize the install
[11:57] <aPilot> help please
[11:57] <jordan_> deep__: Use the alternate install CD.
[11:57] <iwkse> i jumped it:D
[11:58] <infidel> iwkse, hold let me see if i can reproduce it
[11:58] <rausb0> iwkse: btw, you dont really want to mix debian repos with ubuntu
[11:58] <jordan_> deep__: It allows you to do custom things like that.
[11:58] <coz_> deep__, yes as jordan_ has said, use the alternative cd, it does give moreo options than the live cd
[11:58] <iwkse> rausb0: i need skype...isn't on ubuntu rep
[11:58] <rausb0> iwkse: skype is evil closed source
[11:58] <coz_> compudaze, welcome
[11:59] <iwkse> rausb0: thats it:(
[11:59] <flasher> what's the midi player called again?
[11:59] <aPilot> HELP PLEASE firefox 2.0 is go down when load site flash
[11:59] <iwkse> rausb0: ekiga is compatible with skype?
[11:59] <rausb0> iwkse: i dont do voip at all, so i dunno
[11:59] <coz_> iwkse, they removed it , I believe, because it may be less secure
[11:59] <iwkse> aPilot: well known bug..upgrade the libflashplugin
[12:00] <coz_> iwkse, you can still get it though
[12:00] <holycow> iwkse, nothing is compatible to skype it uses a propriteary protocol
[12:00] <Bokeh> heya peeps
[12:00] <Bokeh> i'm having a problem getting quota over nfs to work on my new ubuntu workstations... quota is working fine on file- and webservers, rpc.rquotad is running, and portmap -p on both the servers and workstations is showing a listening rquotad
[12:00] <riaal> rausb0: what is --inet flag?
[12:00] <iwkse> aPilot: there's flash 9 beta out for linux...just check website
[12:00] <aPilot> Ok i try it
[12:00] <iwkse> holycow: yes..
[12:00] <Bokeh> but quota -u username isn't reporting anything.... strace -f shows it statting nfs filesystems, but not doing anything else
[12:01] <iwkse> holycow: hard choice now..
[12:01] <rausb0> riaal: for listing only the internet protocol connections, not unix domain sockets and such
[12:01] <iwkse> holycow: i'll read GNU license and i'll think better after it :p
[12:01] <olopez> hi
[12:01] <holycow> iwkse, *nod* well skype does run on linux
[12:02] <coz_> olopez, morning
[12:02] <holycow> they even have an ubuntu installer
[12:02] <riaal> rausb0: and a is for all and whats n?
[12:02] <coz_> simsimon, morning
[12:02] <rausb0> riaal: -n is for not resolving ip adresses to hostnames
[12:02] <simsimon> salut
[12:02] <jordan_> !flash9 | aPilot
[12:02] <ubotu> aPilot: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[12:02] <iwkse> holycow: yes, but that dosn't mean its open source
[12:02] <coz_> simsimon, salut bonjour, chaio
[12:02] <holycow> indeed its not *nod* thats why i don't use it
[12:03] <riaal> rausb0: thanks a lot mate
[12:03] <rausb0> riaal: you could have read all that in "man netstat"
[12:03] <robert_> blah
[12:03] <olopez> Anyone has try install vmware on edgy ?
[12:03] <sanmarcos> !ivtv
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ivtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <iwkse> olopez: i installed on gentoo
[12:03] <coz_> olopez, i have in the past it works ok
[12:03] <jordan_> !vmware
[12:03] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[12:03] <Rezonator> i heard, somewhere, that skype was actually implemented in Delphi
[12:03] <iwkse> olopez: just combine vmware-player && qemu
[12:03] <riaal> rausb0: know but it was a serious abount of info in that manpage.. (sorry ;) )
[12:04] <holycow> Rezonator, its not
[12:04] <holycow> it uses qt and therefore most likely c++
[12:04] <olopez> mmm when i compile kernel modules it crash
[12:05] <Bokeh> !quota
[12:05] <ubotu> quota: implementation of the disk quota system. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13-8 (edgy), package size 393 kB, installed size 1196 kB
[12:05] <Bokeh> d'oh :)
[12:07] <coz_> 954 people and no questions?
[12:07] <Bokeh> hehe
[12:07] <Bokeh> i posted mine a while ago :)
[12:07] <compudaze> sure
[12:07] <coz_> oh lol
[12:08] <Bokeh> been pulling my hair out of this stupid quota problem for a while now
[12:08] <Bokeh> i've got tons of older debian systems running with quota over nfs, but with my new ubuntu workstations it just won't work for some reason
[12:08] <coz_> Bokeh oh well I am probably not the right inidiviual to help wiht that
[12:08] <Bokeh> np :)
[12:08] <olopez> http://pastebin.co.uk/4841 this is the error of my vmware instalation any idea ?
[12:08] <GUARDiAN|nb> i'm getting a segmentation fault when starting sim-im since i upgraded to edgy... anyone else experiencing this?
[12:08] <GUARDiAN|nb> (sim-im has been installed from the ubuntu-repos)
[12:08] <coz_> Bokeh, but I will pay attention
[12:09] <Bokeh> heh
[12:09] <Bokeh> sec, c/p'ing
[12:09] <infidel> iwkse, E: python-logilab-common: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 E: python-logilab-astng: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:09] <Bokeh> i'm having a problem getting quota over nfs to work on my new ubuntu workstations... quota is working fine on file- and webservers, rpc.rquotad is running, and portmap -p on both the servers and workstations is showing a listening rquotad
[12:09] <Bokeh> but quota -u username isn't reporting anything.... strace -f shows it statting nfs filesystems, but not doing anything else
[12:09] <Bokeh> that's the gist of the problem
[12:09] <Bokeh> olopez: you have the correct header files for your architecture?
[12:10] <DaGame> How does one get xfce on an old ubuntu?
[12:10] <infidel> iwkse, you still there?
[12:10] <Bokeh> how old? :)
[12:10] <iwkse> infidel: its like you miss some package
[12:10] <ubuntu__> hello
[12:11] <infidel> iwkse, i know bu which ones?
[12:11] <tapas> hi
[12:11] <tapas> are realtime-preemption kernel packages available for ubuntu edgy?
[12:11] <olopez> Bokeh: yes i have it
[12:11] <earthian> is there any way to be able to install and use i386 packages on amd64 arch??
[12:11] <Bokeh> hmmmm
[12:11] <Bokeh> odd
[12:12] <Bokeh> earthian: install linux32, then install the packages with dpkg -i --force-arch package.deb
[12:12] <earthian> ok thanks. will try
[12:12] <olopez> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386/linux is present
[12:12] <tapas> if not, where's a good guide to build a ubuntu kernel package?
[12:12] <iwkse> infidel: python-logilab-astng..
[12:12] <olopez> i think that the problem is the gcc version
[12:12] <iwkse> infidel: it seems you have a previous version of this package
[12:12] <Bokeh> possible
[12:12] <Bokeh> are you running dapper or edgy?
[12:12] <olopez> edgy
[12:13] <dv_> hi
[12:13] <infidel> iwkse, i'll uninstall it and try to reinstall it
[12:13] <iwkse> infidel: and conflict with some package that is going to be installaed
[12:13] <olopez> gcc version 4.1.2
[12:13] <iwkse> infidel: try just to uninstall firstly
[12:13] <bonzai10> hello, how to change "main menu" icon in panel ?
[12:13] <Bokeh> 4.1.2, so that's probably edgy then?
[12:15] <olopez> mmm
[12:15] <bony> is there a package called gnome-passkey-agent for configuring bluetooth
[12:15] <Rothguard> would some like to send me a up todate sources.list  O_o
[12:15] <olopez> gcc is the problem :S , i  try to  compile it with gcc 4.0
[12:16] <steve> does anyone know how to install the nvidia driver in ubuntu 6.1 ?
[12:16] <bonzai10> wikipedia steve, or just install restricted kernel modules and fglrx
[12:17] <mnepton> bonzai10: fglrx is not for nVidia
[12:17] <dv_> hm
[12:17] <twb> What's the best way to make kernel module packages?  I want to make a kqemu package (for internal use, not redistribution).
[12:17] <bonzai10> then whatever is for nVidia
[12:17] <steve> i tried the info on the ubuntu site that said install this install that, then do this press ctrl-alt-backspace and you will see the nvidia logo
[12:17] <steve> it just killed my desktop lol
[12:17] <jordan_> !nvidea | steve
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidea - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <dv_> anyone here using edgy with the beta nvidia 9xxx drivers?
[12:17] <jordan_> !nvidia | steve
[12:17] <ubotu> steve: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:18] <steve> uboto thanks looking....
[12:18] <bonzai10> well my drivers works fine those from repo :>
[12:19] <h3lp> !flash
[12:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:20] <scheuri> !fonts
[12:20] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[12:20] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[12:20] <bonzai10> anybody using compiz + beryl ?
[12:21] <Ace> can someone help me get my java to work or point me to the correct channel
[12:21] <steve> hey i am also knew to linux so playing around a bit.. might be a biast answer here lol, but which is the best linux version? ubuntu or something like ferdora.. and whats the deal with solaris?
[12:21] <bonzai10> steve, look at linux distro timeline and you will see all distros are almost the same
[12:22] <bonzai10> ubuntu is based on debian
[12:22] <holycow> steve, none, whatever you like
[12:22] <bonzai10> fedora on red hat
[12:22] <jordan_> bonzai10: I am using Beryl, it replaces compiz
[12:22] <holycow> we are all about choice, and personal irreverence
[12:22] <holycow> steve, do as you wish, this world is your oyster
[12:22] <holycow> >_>
[12:22] <steve> :)
[12:22] <steve> so howcome ubuntu fits on a CD but fedora is a DVD ?
[12:23] <steve> is it just extra 3rd party software packged up?
[12:23] <bonzai10> jordan_ do you know how to set alt + TAB not to lock mouse cursor ?
[12:23] <jordan_> bonzai10: Try #ubuntu-xgl
[12:23] <holycow> steve, yes, consider that debian is not up to 16 cds
[12:23] <Bokeh> steve: ubuntu installs nearly everything by downloading it from repositories
[12:23] <rix_> hi, i have a problem with eth0: after a few that i work it dosn't wok anymore, no problems a printet out but i can't surf the internet
[12:23] <Bokeh> only basic desktop software is included on the cd
[12:23] <holycow> its all relative to how much free stuff someone wants to stuff it there
[12:23] <steve> cool
[12:24] <twb> Of course, one does not have to download all 16 CDs to install debian.  The smallest Debian install CD is about 30MB.
[12:24] <Bokeh> hehe
[12:24] <jordan_> holycow: But only one is actually needed for debian.
[12:24] <Bokeh> gotta love the creditcard installation :)
[12:24] <ehird> Oh boy.
[12:24] <Edgarcayce> greeets
[12:24] <Edgarcayce> anyone familiar with Boot: rescue
[12:24] <ehird> After foolishly trying to resize a reiserfs partition and crashing gparted livecd, when logging in on ubuntu X restarts whenever I enter anything in the KDE login screen
[12:24] <twb> This is especially handy for Debian because the install CDs are soooo out of date, what with years between releases :P
[12:24] <steve> technical question.. i have a 24" lcd wide screen and a 19" lcd... in windows my desktop extends to the right on the 19"... in ubuntu my 19" is just scrambled pixels and only my 24" works, is it easy to wake up the 19" to extend my desktop on it?
[12:24] <ehird> any ideas? :(
[12:25] <holycow> !refresh
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about refresh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <twb> >jealous<
[12:25] <holycow> !horizontal sync
[12:25] <holycow> !resolution
[12:25] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:25] <twb> steve: google for xinerama.
[12:25] <ubuntu__> hello, how do i install a i386 deb package using linux32 on x86_64 arch again?? just forgot :x
[12:25] <ehird> :x
[12:25] <twb> Actually, you don't even need xinerama.
[12:26] <holycow> steve, you need the proper horizontal and vertical refresh rates, put those in your xorg.conf file and restart x.  we don't have a gui to let you do that nicely ... YET!
[12:26] <holycow> someones writing one tho
[12:26] <rix_> how's possible that the connection works for a few and then it stops whit no errors... and after another few it rebegan to work...?
[12:26] <Edgarcayce> so, anyone can help me with ubuntu cd boot: rescue option, i wnana know if my previous version is just to fucked up to restore or if iam doing something wrong
[12:26] <bonzai10> how to make menu item in grub that when i boot ubuntu it will not run xinit 3, i need txt only
[12:26] <twb> Is there any way to *disable* COMPOSITE and DAMAGE extensions in edgy Xorg?
[12:27] <Bokeh> bonzai10: put a number behind it indication your runlevel
[12:27] <TGPO> Edgarcayce, why not just size it back and then reinstall KDE?
[12:27] <twb> bonzai10: install rcconf, then run rcconf and uncheck `gdm' and `kdm'.
[12:27] <Bokeh> so, anyone here who wants a nfs-related challenge? ;)
[12:27] <ubuntu__> hm.. linux32 gdebi somepackage.deb does not work :/ while linux32 uname -a works :o
[12:27] <Edgarcayce> yeah, i was thinking about that, but i thought might be easier to just restore all my settings
[12:28] <TGPO> Edgarcayce, hmm hand hacking every config file or letting apt-get fix it for you ... I think I just spotted the easy way
[12:28] <voltage> Morning all
[12:28] <fnf> Hi, anyone has used Vim's syntax coloring in Edgy ?. It used to work in Dapper when I set "syntax on", but in Edgy Vim told me that the feature is not supported in this version (7.0 - It should).
[12:29] <Bokeh> you sure you have vim and not vi?
[12:29] <fnf> Bokeh: sure
[12:29] <Bokeh> i remember vi set up a symlink called vim if vim wasn't installed
[12:29] <Bokeh> odd
[12:30] <Bokeh> tried :syn on ?
[12:30] <Bokeh> instead of :syntax on
[12:30] <fnf> Bokeh: I'll recheck it and come right back.
[12:30] <fnf> Bokeh: Btw, vim --version gives me "VIM - Vi IMproved 7.0 (2006 May 7, compiled Oct 20 2006 09:29:41)  " at the very first line.
[12:31] <Bokeh> hmmm
[12:31] <Bokeh> it's vim allright :)
[12:32] <fnf> Bokeh: syn on gave me the same compain about not having supported, also, I believe they are synonymous.
[12:32] <Bokeh> weird
[12:32] <Bokeh> perhaps the vim packager forgot to compile it in in edgy....
[12:32] <St_MPA3b> [12:33] <fnf> Bokeh: The /etc/vim/vimrc in Edgy has changed a bit since Dapper, and it mentioned about debian.vim, which I'm not sure what's it about.
[12:33] <TGPO> st_MPA3b: no need to install something similar, apt-get it and it will still work
[12:33] <cyphase> What do you guys think about Ubuntu warning you when you connect to an unsecured wireless network that you should create a password for it?
[12:34] <fnf> cyphase: Perhaps it's just a nice warning for a GUI user, if you bring it up manually there'll be no warning.
[12:34] <TGPO> cyphase because its just crazy to leave your network unsecured
[12:34] <jimcooncat> how to I update multiple computers through ssh with minimal fuss?
[12:35] <scheuri> cyphase: it is not too much of a bad idea to tell people of security risks
[12:35] <ubuntu__> hey, i have installed skype i386 on adm64 with force and now i get this while running it:
[12:35] <ubuntu__> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu/Desktop# skype
[12:35] <ubuntu__> -bash: /usr/bin/skype: No such file or directory
[12:35] <seth1244> I'm trying to setup mythtv but I keep getting the error "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)", but it doesn't even give a chance to enter a mysql password. What can I do here?
[12:35] <cyphase> TGPO: i know.. it hink you misunderstood me
[12:35] <cyphase> think*
[12:35] <ubuntu__> and i get the same when runing static skype downloaded from their site. do you know what could be wrong with the running?
[12:35] <Bokeh> mysql -p
[12:35] <ubuntu__> i remember it worked under i386 of linux
[12:36] <GUARDiAN|nb> as an user i don't care about if the network is not password-secured... you should annoy the admin with such messages not the users
[12:36] <cyphase> fnf: i meant as a *potential* feature
[12:36] <TGPO> cyphase: I hate nag screens too, however this is one of those things that reaaly should be nagged
[12:36] <ubuntu__> so it should be generaly something wrong with x64 :/
[12:36] <cyphase> scheuri: i know, that's why i asked
[12:36] <aPilot> powersaved has GUI for gnome?!
[12:36] <Bokeh> ubuntu__: `which skype`
[12:36] <scheuri> :)
[12:36] <ubuntu__> Bokeh, the latest from their site.
[12:36] <TGPO> ubuntu you used a proggy compile for x32 on x64 and you wander why its borked?
[12:37] <Bokeh> i mean the command `which skype` :)
[12:37] <fnf> cyphase: I'll probably be a good idea in GUI mode, but not in console.
[12:37] <Bokeh> TGPO: should not be a problem as long as you have linux32 installed
[12:37] <ubuntu__> Bokeh,  i downloaded .deb and that gziped with qt3 precompiled both show same error
[12:37] <seth1244> Bokeh: mysql -p is how I login to mysql but here what I'm really running is apt-get install mysql-database.
[12:37] <cyphase> GUARDiAN|nb: I'm not saying give them a lecture about it, just have a little bubble saying "This network is unsecured, blah blah blah."
[12:37] <cyphase> fnf: i agree
[12:37] <Bokeh> i've got several 32bits applications running on my 64bits ubuntu, since there's no 64bits version available
[12:37] <Bokeh> seth: it gives you that when you're trying to install mysql?
[12:38] <ehird> beh
[12:38] <Bokeh> edgy or dapper?
[12:38] <cyphase> i meant as part of Network Manager
[12:38] <ehird> restarting didn't help =(
[12:38] <seth1244> dapper
[12:38] <aPilot> Does powersaved has GUI for gnome?
[12:38] <seth1244> I mean edgy.
[12:38] <GUARDiAN|nb> like the "you're now connected to network $blah"-bubble that's coming up since edgy?
[12:38] <ehird> my machine really hates linux.
[12:38] <TGPO> Bokeh theres lots of things I have already had to work around on my x64 because linux32 doesnt automagicly handle everything that it should
[12:38] <ubuntu__> Bokeh, does skype works on your 64bit ubuntu? as it seems for me it does not work :/
[12:38] <seth1244> Just upgraded.
[12:38] <cyphase> or whatever new client that's in feisty
[12:38] <Bokeh> wouldn't know, i don't use skype at work
[12:38] <Edgarcayce> TPO: can i just install / on a used partition without formating it?
[12:38] <olopez> Bokeh: i solve my problem with vmware-any-any patch :D
[12:38] <Bokeh> actually, i don't use skype much at all ;)
[12:38] <Bokeh> nice
[12:39] <Bokeh> sec, brb, got a user
[12:39] <cyphase> GUARDiAN|nb: yes, like that, except it would say the network is unsecured
[12:39] <ubuntu__> aPilot, you can take a look at the CPU freq panel applet of gnome. it uses powersaved cpu drivers to change cpu speed or so?
[12:39] <cyphase> obviously the wording would have to be worked on, but it's a rough idea
[12:39] <TGPO> Edgarcayce if I understand the question ... not a chance, you have to have a file system to install onto
[12:39] <ehird> would reinstalling x and kde-core work?
[12:40] <ehird> it might break stuff but, i really don't care
[12:40] <aPilot> i want chenge freq
[12:40] <Edgarcayce> mh yeha because the problem is that I wnat to keep all of my curent files
[12:40] <aPilot> ubuntu__: i want change freq i auto mode
[12:40] <jimcooncat> anyone here use clusterssh? how do you like it?
[12:40] <scheuri> Edgarcayce: that is a "no go"
[12:40] <TGPO> Edgarcayce, I believe gparted will do a non destructive resize
[12:41] <Edgarcayce> mhh ok
[12:41] <GUARDiAN|nb> cyphase: why not... where do i have to vote? ;-)
[12:41] <ehird> :S
[12:41] <seth1244> Bokeh: No mysql works just fine. It's mythtv-database that I'm trying to install (which trys to use mysql without -p - it seems that mythtv cannot install on systems that require a mysql password from root).
[12:41] <cyphase> GUARDiAN|nb: i'm adding it to the wireless client spec right now
[12:41] <aPilot> earthian: help please
[12:41] <cyphase> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessClient
[12:42] <earthian> aPilot, try googling for powersaved ubuntu auto or so... i have never managed that thing to ever work
[12:42] <aPilot> earthian ok
[12:42] <unixslut> sup?
[12:42] <LookTJ> I got problem with gaim
[12:43] <LookTJ> if I'm chatting in chats, how do I invite people into the chat?
[12:43] <ilikespoons> aaand I managed to update to Edgy. Only, now, after the reboot, the X server won't start. I get a "the x server won't start" message, but I can't view the output
[12:43] <seth1244> How can I make it so that mysql can be run from root without needing the -p seeing that seems the only way that mythtv can be installed?
[12:43] <morphix> i installed edgy eft on my Asus P5W DH Deluxe (975 Chipset) but i cant even boot into it. I get device sense failure for my dvdrw drive and the furthest the bootup has got was to IPv6 over IPv4 Tunneling, loading. It seems ubuntu is still shit for my board :(
[12:43] <ilikespoons> now, I have tried changing the video drivers to "vesa" in xorg.conf, but it didn't help
[12:45] <LookTJ> likespoons: do a fresh install
[12:45] <Edgarcayce> edgy candidate version has some problems
[12:45] <steve> sorry where do i find xorg.conf to add the 2nd monitor i have for dual screen?
[12:45] <Edgarcayce> with updating from dpaper drake
[12:45] <Edgarcayce> thats why my ubuntu got all emssed up
[12:45] <ilikespoons> LookTJ, you mean download the install disk for edgy or reinstall dapper and then reupdate
[12:45] <ilikespoons> darn. that will hurt. a lot.
[12:45] <LookTJ> download the iso image for edgy
[12:46] <Bokeh> seth
[12:46] <LookTJ> :( sorry for that speed likespoons
[12:46] <Bokeh> you could run mysql manually with --skip-permissions
[12:46] <ilikespoons> yeah, same here. well, time to get downloading
[12:46] <Bokeh> though i do not know for sure if it'll allow the installer to set permissions either
[12:46] <ilikespoons> thanks for the advice.
[12:46] <Bokeh> and be sure to only accept local connections if you do skip-permissions
[12:47] <morphix> atleast dapper would work with the custom 2.6.18.1 kernel more than edgy does (cant boot)
[12:47] <LookTJ> likespoons:  I hope there wasn't anything important
[12:47] <ilikespoons> just another quick question: do I need to save any/all of the preference files in my home folder? will the stuff not included in the install stay there?
[12:48] <ehird> is my X problem really that hard?
[12:48] <ilikespoons> LookTJ, just settings. A crapload of LaTeX installation stuff. basically, I have to download the iso and then another couple hundred megs to get back to where I started :P
[12:48] <Bokeh> what is your X problem ehird?
[12:48] <ehird> i keep having x problems... why is x still in use anyway?
[12:48] <ilikespoons> well, thanks for the help
[12:48] <ehird> Bokeh: i said earlier but here goes
[12:49] <Bokeh> sorry, was afk :)
[12:49] <ehird> after a failed resize of a reiserfs partition with gparted which then crashed, and then a fsck finding nothing on bootup, the KDE login screen appears. after typing in my pass and hitting login or enter, it flashes and restarts x into the login screen again.
[12:49] <ehird> logging in from the terminal (as I am now) works fine.
[12:49] <TGPO> morphix 2.6.18.1 works fine with edgy on my x64
[12:49] <simie> hi
[12:50] <bibe> hi all. I have just installed Ubuntu 6.10 on my laptop. Although in /etc/X11/xorg.conf there is a line saying "XkbLayout" "it", when I start beryl-manager the keyboard is changed to "en" (I suppose). Running xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.it leads to a slightly different keyboard (it's still Italian, but for instance AltGr+N doesn't give the Spanish ~n, as it does without beryl-manager). Any hints, please?
[12:50] <Bokeh> tail -f /var/log/auth.log; tail -f /var/log/syslog
[12:50] <Bokeh> try to log in then and see what it says
[12:51] <ehird> Bokeh: i'll try...
[12:51] <ehird> but how will i do that in the background of X? will multiple terminals work?
[12:51] <pupeno__> When trying to create an encrypted file system with "cryptsetup -y create crypt /dev/hda3" I get the error: "Command failed: Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.07 (2006-05-11)(compat) and kernel driver", any ideas ? is cryptoloop broken in Edgy ?
[12:51] <henry_> hi, i just downloaded vmoviedb, and parts of the menu are not showing up, could anyone help me?
[12:51] <henry_> i just get blank space
[12:52] <steve> hello guys, cant locate this conf file for adding the 2nd monitor? xorg.conf or whatever it was?
[12:52] <bibe> henry_ : did you try minimizing the window and then maximizing it?
[12:52] <teledyn_> henry_: what is vmoviedb?
[12:52] <highneko> What's that program called that has 3d backgrounds, and screensavers as wallpaper?
[12:52] <voltage> etc/X11 maybe
[12:52] <henry_> teledyn, it keeps a directory of all your movies (amaroK for moviees
[12:53] <henry_> bibe, yes, still nothing
[12:53] <steve> thanks voltage
[12:53] <voltage> np
[12:53] <teledyn_> henry_: maybe a missing font?
[12:54] <teledyn_> henry_: maybe its set up to use a specific font which isn't on your system.
[12:54] <ehird> Bokeh: problem: i can't start x via the terminal, only when it starts up
[12:54] <henry_> teledyn_, no, i don't even see the grids
[12:54] <warty> hello
[12:54] <Albert> hello
[12:55] <simie> can anyone tell me if the latex komascript is still available in edgy? in dapper it was included in tetex-extra but although this package is installed latex cannot finde the file scrrport.cls
[12:55] <Bokeh> what message does it give if you run startx?
[12:55] <Bokeh> sounds like something wrong with your profile or kde, and not X itself
[12:55] <ehird> Bokeh: startx just gives me the blackandwhite checkers screen withthe X cursor
[12:55] <bibe> simie : try installing apt-file, updating it and then do an 'apt-file search scrrport.cls'
[12:55] <Bokeh> ok, so that works
[12:55] <TGPO> xinitrc
[12:55] <simie> bibe good idea, thanks
[12:56] <bibe> simie : no problem
[12:56] <LookTJ> if I'm chatting in chats, how do I invite people into the chat? gaim 2.0 beta
[12:56] <LookTJ> noone in #gaim is talking
[12:56] <henry_> teledyn_, http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g57/henryfrench/Screenshot.png
[12:57] <Rothguard> how do i play avi files in 6.06 ARG
[12:58] <scheuri> Rothguard: with VLC?
[12:58] <warty> someone know why i've such message with warty trying to use apt ?
[12:58] <warty>  Method http has died unexpectedly!
[12:58] <henry_> pwn
[12:58] <Bokeh> woah
[12:58] <Bokeh> warty
[12:58] <TGPO> rothguard try installing essential codec pack from www.mplayerhq.hu
[12:58] <scheuri> Rothguard: enable universe and multiverse repository and "sudo aptitude install vlc"
[12:58] <warty> :D
[12:58] <henry_> yea seriously,
[12:58] <Rothguard> i cant find anything from my sources.list
[12:58] <henry_> upgrade
[12:59] <warty> I know but I've just change sourcelist file
[12:59] <Bokeh> do you want clay tabelts with your distro?
[12:59] <warty> I'm actually using livecd
[12:59] <scheuri> Rothguard: first run a "sudo aptitude update"
[12:59] <ehird> bokeh: no ideas? =(
[12:59] <henry_> OMG WARTY LIVE CD
[12:59] <warty> :D
 xinitrc
[12:59] <warty> ubuntu suxes >_<
[12:59] <ehird> OMG LIVE CD WITH WARTS ON IT
[12:59] <ilikespoons> LookTJ how bad would it be if I did a clean Dapper install and then an upgrade? I mean, that shouldn't be too problematic, no?
[12:59] <Bokeh> try that
[12:59] <ehird> Bokeh: i shall try
[12:59] <henry_> rofl
[12:59] <warty> if it wasnt a live cd i would use it
[12:59] <ehird> bokeh: "xinitrc command not found"
[01:00] <ehird> warty: there is an install cd you know
[01:00] <TGPO> its not a command
[01:00] <ehird> and you're... a few version behind
[01:00] <no0b> hi
[01:00] <no0b> can someone help me
[01:00] <warty> ehird, I know, but I'm at a friends dad works, so I cant install any distro
[01:00] <no0b> checking for x... no
[01:00] <teledyn_> henry_: i don't know.  i thought you meant the application menus weren't showing up
[01:00] <TGPO> edit the .xinitrc file to point to your environment
[01:00] <no0b> how to install x11 ?
[01:00] <TGPO> bah, time to go make a living
[01:01] <henry_> teledyn_, thanks for trying
[01:01] <ehird> .xinitrc doesn't exist
[01:01] <warty> in fact, version 5.04 crashes while installing sdl lib
[01:01] <parth> how do i decrypt the pgp message launchpad has sent me to verify my pgp keys
[01:01] <ehird> and i have no idea about the syntax
[01:01] <Bokeh> ok, ehird: so your problem is that X will start, but kde won't, right?
[01:01] <Bokeh> just to test something: did you try a different wm?
[01:01] <ehird> bokeh: no, that's only when i run it from the terminal
[01:01] <TGPO> no0b apt-get install xorg xserver-xorg-core
[01:01] <ehird> if i boot up my system,
[01:01] <ehird> then kde opens
[01:01] <ehird> i login
[01:01] <ehird> and after hitting login
[01:01] <ehird> it restarts X and asks me to login again
[01:01] <Bokeh> yeah, that's the same :0
[01:01] <Bokeh> :) even
[01:01] <tapas> snd_seq doesn't get loaded automagically on my system
[01:02] <tapas> where to fix this?
[01:02] <Bokeh> can you try gnome and see if that works?
[01:02] <ehird> it worked before like 10 minutes ago,
[01:02] <tapas> edgy
[01:02] <ehird> when i used gparted to resize a reiserfs partition
[01:02] <no0b> TGPO: i will try and install and compile again amsn. hope it works :) thank u
[01:02] <ehird> it didn't work and gparted crashed
[01:02] <ehird> so i had to hard reboot
[01:02] <ehird> fsck fixed like 3 errors on that partition and now i have this problem
[01:02] <TGPO> ehird edit /home/<your home> .xinitrc
[01:02] <ehird> TGPO: it doesn't exist.
[01:02] <ehird> and i don't know the syntax of the file to make it.
[01:02] <teledyn_> tapas: you can put it in /etc/modules
[01:02] <TGPO> thats why your craching out then
[01:03] <parth> how do i decrypt the pgp message launchpad has sent me to verify my pgp keys
[01:03] <ehird> um.
[01:03] <ehird> it didn't exist before.
[01:03] <ehird> and worked fine.
[01:03] <tapas> teledyn_: ok thanks
[01:03] <WS> hi
[01:03] <ehird> so i doubt it
[01:03] <tapas> teledyn_: but actually it's a bg not to load iot
[01:03] <Bokeh> i don't have a xinitrc either tgpo :)
[01:03] <tapas> maybe i find tie to make a bug report
[01:03] <tapas> we'll see
[01:03] <TGPO> wow odd
[01:03] <Bokeh> shouldn't be a problem as long as you use *dm
[01:04] <ehird> tgpo: it worked just fine until i failed resizing this reiserfs partition
[01:04] <ehird> which is wack because it isn't even linux-related
[01:04] <Rothguard> my lawd i have a massive sources.list
[01:04] <no0b> TGPO: i have them already installed. but still ? any other dev can i install ?
[01:04] <teledyn_> tapas: ?
[01:04] <TGPO> use the --reinstall switch
[01:04] <WS> i just installed ubuntu 4.10 (warty) and im wondering if there is any guide on how to update from warty to latest?
[01:04] <tapas> teledyn_: if you ship alsa with your distribution, yuo must load snd_seq
[01:05] <ehird> tgpo: i have to reinstall x?
[01:05] <ehird> bah!
[01:05] <ClayG> i know i must have misread this but i could i have sworn i "heard" something about using ubuntu drivers in for xp, to "just get by"
[01:05] <ehird> fine.
[01:05] <tapas> teledyn_: upon alsa initialization
[01:05] <ClayG> surely this cannot be possible?
[01:05] <tapas> teledyn_: not doing so is a bug
[01:05] <TGPO> ehird that was for no0b
[01:05] <Seph`Zzzz> hey guys, im about to follow the howto on ubuntuforums.org for setting up a svn server (webdav w/ apache2) but before I do - it seems to setup  a svn as www.server.moo/svn/ - is it possiable to setup a second respotirory at the same time with different users allowed access etc?  it doesnt say
[01:05] <teledyn_> tapas: hmm i've never seen it automaticallly load
[01:05] <Seph`Zzzz> like /svn1 and /svn2
[01:05] <tapas> teledyn_: then there was always a bug :)
[01:05] <TGPO> bah, cant stay any longer ... work awaits
[01:06] <tapas> teledyn_: it's like loading X butnot loding any keyboard drivers utomagically
[01:06] <tapas> teledyn_: it is crucial for alsa operation beyond playback of audio.. plus it's not automatically loaded even when trying to use an alsa midi app
[01:06] <no0b> TGPO: like this sudo apt-get --reinstall xorg xserver-xorg-core ?
[01:07] <teledyn_> tapas: i didn't think midi gets used very much any more
[01:07] <tapas> teledyn_: haha
[01:08] <tapas> but even if not
[01:08] <teledyn_> tapas: except by people who are working with sound
[01:08] <tapas> as soon as the user starts an alsa midi app snd_seq should be loaded automatically
[01:08] <tapas> not doing so is a bug imho
[01:08] <teledyn_> tapas: there's probably a special group of ubuntu developers who handle sound.  maybe you could mention this on their mailing list.
[01:09] <tapas> teledyn_: yah, or i just file a bug report with the alsa package
[01:09] <teledyn_> tapas: or on the corresponding debian mailing list
[01:09] <teledyn_> tapas: true, but you might not get an answer that way
[01:09] <tapas> teledyn_: as long as it gets fixed i do't care for an answer. i fixed it locally with /etc/modules so it's ok for e :)
[01:10] <earthian> hey, regardng the skype32 on amd64 ubuntu problem. there is missing qt3 shared library for 32bit applications. DO you know where can i find an amulation or something for this? I get this error now: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:10] <joona> i believe you can get skype with static qt
[01:10] <earthian> skype is looking in /usr/lib32/
[01:10] <Jen20> Trying to download the directory shortcut ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso in FTP client gives "550 Failed to change directory. Could not retrieve directory listing". Anyone know of the location of the alt *file* to download via FTP?
[01:10] <earthian> and that file is in ../lib64
[01:11] <earthian> however hardlinking or copying that file wont work because of wrong architecture
[01:11] <frying_fish> earthian: does the ia32 compatability stuff not cover it?
[01:11] <earthian> can somebody help me with this?
[01:11] <Bokeh> linux32 apt-get install libqt3-mt
[01:11] <earthian> aha
[01:11] <earthian> thanks Bokeh
[01:11] <Bokeh> that should install the 32-bits version of libqt-3
[01:11] <frying_fish> Jen20: try wget
[01:11] <Bokeh> note the should :D
[01:11] <frying_fish> Bokeh: don't think so, that seems an odd set of syntax, unless you have a chroot set up and thats your command to do it.
[01:11] <earthian> yay
[01:12] <earthian> Bokeh, libqt3-mt is already the newest version. <--- runing with linux32
[01:12] <Bokeh> hmmmm
[01:12] <frying_fish> or is that something I haven't seen before for my 64bit (although I haven't got an issue with 32 bit stuff)
[01:12] <cryptonic> wheres the partition manager thats on ubuntu when you boot from cd, i cant find it on my installed system
[01:12] <frying_fish> cryptonic: gparted?
[01:12] <Jen20> frying_fish: only have fast net connection from Windows environment, and crappy FileZilla FTP client. I can download the FTP link from Firefox, but I want to using an ftp client (to continue interrupted downloads).
[01:12] <cryptonic> i think so
[01:13] <Bokeh> hmmmmm
[01:13] <frying_fish> Jen20: oh, well in that case, try another client is all I can suggest really
[01:13] <Bokeh> last 32bits package i needed to install was pine
[01:13] <frying_fish> and if you have a "fast" connection it shouldn't take all that long anyway.
[01:13] <Jen20> k, thanks
[01:13] <Bokeh> i had a lib problem with that, can't remember which one though
[01:13] <voraistos> hello folks. has any problem rported with radeon driver/kernel module ? one of my machines became very instable after loading radeon in /etc/modules . I find that is very strange
[01:13] <rausb0> Jen20: does it have to be ftp? you could try http. http can also be resumed after interrupt. use wget (wget is also available for windows)
[01:14] <earthian> hmmhmm :)
[01:14] <enotee> i  recently  got  laptop how can i tell if i have nvidia  or ati
[01:14] <voraistos> lspci
[01:14] <Bokeh> earthian: you can download the 32-bits dpkg of libqt3-mt, then install it manually with --force-arch
[01:14] <earthian> how?
[01:14] <no0b> TGPO: u still here ? i did reinstall .. still same
[01:14] <earthian> i am not that pro on all these :/
[01:15] <Bokeh> go to packages.ubuntulinux.org
[01:15] <Sephnroth> um, installing subversion, helper scripts and tools has suddenly popped up a Exim v4 configuration box..  is mail essential to svn? x_X
[01:15] <Bokeh> and search for libqt3-mt, remember to select the proper release
[01:16] <livingdaylight> what does it mean doens't have installation candidate?
[01:16] <henry_> hey, does anyone know of a good equivalent of lets say amarok, for movies?
[01:16] <dv_> kaffeine
[01:16] <ndlovu> looking through the /var/log/messages of my ubuntu server, there seem to be a lot of call traces logged. is this something to worry about?
[01:16] <rausb0> mplayer
[01:16] <henry_> dv_, that does video?
[01:16] <dv_> yes
[01:16] <henry_> i want categories, and tags...
[01:16] <dv_> oh hm
[01:17] <hadi> haloooooooooo
[01:17] <voraistos> henry_ i am afraid there is no equivalent
[01:17] <henry_> its cause i have a ton of tv episodes, and i need to organize them
[01:17] <ompaul> ndlovu, they are being logged for a reason, when you say call traces - would you care to give one of them here or past sevearl into paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:17] <enotee> i  recently  got  laptop how can i tell if i have nvidia  or ati
[01:17] <frying_fish> enotee: probably has a sticker on it somewhere
[01:17] <livingdaylight> i have multiverse ticked but w32 codecs are not available, nor opera in canonical which is also ticked
[01:17] <Khamael> how do I get the k7 kernel to be the default at boot?
[01:17] <frying_fish> enotee: windows or linux right now?
[01:17] <Bokeh> so.... anyone up for an nfs-related challenge now? :P
[01:17] <henry_> voraistos, there is vmoviedb, which is awesome, but my ssytem is emo with it
[01:18] <enotee> ubuntu edgy no stickers
[01:18] <frying_fish> Khamael: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the default boot number to the appropriate one
[01:18] <Ace> how do i run a python script
[01:18] <frying_fish> enotee: lspci
[01:18] <frying_fish> run that, it will most likely give you the best insight
[01:18] <enotee> ?
[01:18] <ompaul> livingdaylight, look at help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats for instructions
[01:18] <ndlovu> ompaul, 1sec...
[01:18] <frying_fish> type lspci at a console
[01:18] <frying_fish> enotee: lspci then paste it in pastebin
[01:18] <frying_fish> and give the link
[01:19] <voraistos> ompaul. hello dude. dont wanna bother you but did people report problems with radeon drivr/kernel module ? One of my machine beacame very instable after loading radeon in /etc/modules
[01:19] <Bokeh> ati radeon drivers stink, imho
[01:19] <henry_> dv_, kaffeine is nice, thanks
[01:19] <voraistos> Bokeh: fglrx or radeon or ati ?
[01:19] <livingdaylight> ompaul: can you tell me, does this look right? sources.list output:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29351/
[01:19] <Bokeh> fglrx
[01:20] <tapas> teledyn_: there's a bug report already even for dapper
[01:20] <Bokeh> not that nvidia's any better, but at least nvidia breaks down consistently
[01:20] <enotee> past bin?
[01:20] <voraistos> Bokeh: its the only one notaking my machine instable with a radeon 9200 and 9600
[01:20] <frying_fish> !pastebin
[01:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:20] <sphorbis> anybody know why my trays disappear when i run gcompmgr?
[01:20] <enotee> k thnx
[01:21] <ompaul> voraistos, I have not been watching edgy, on dapper the way it works right is if you do it from the help.ubuntu.com pages
[01:21] <livingdaylight> ompaul: wish that help.ubuntu.comlink you gave was an url. Cant copy out of xchat here it seems
[01:21] <enotee> its there
[01:22] <voraistos> ompaul: i know . But this problem is on edgy. i think xorg edgy version is pretty much unstble.
[01:22] <ompaul> livingdaylight, look at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats for instructions
[01:22] <frying_fish> livingdaylight: highlight it with mouse, then paste into browser
[01:22] <Bokeh> http://help.ubuntu.com
[01:22] <scognito> hi
[01:22] <frying_fish> enotee: so give us the link to your specific post
[01:22] <ehird> um heh
[01:22] <frying_fish> it will have some number after the main link.
[01:22] <ehird> after reinstalling x, kdm and kde-core
[01:22] <scognito> hi
[01:22] <ehird> it logs in
[01:22] <ehird> but give me
[01:22] <ompaul> !info xorg
[01:22] <enotee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29353/
[01:22] <ehird> a terminal window with no title bar or styling
[01:22] <ubotu> xorg: X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[01:22] <ehird> in the top left corner
[01:22] <ompaul> !info xorg dapper
[01:22] <ehird> and so here i am :p
[01:22] <ubotu> Package xorg does not exist in dapper
[01:23] <ndlovu> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29354/
[01:23] <frying_fish> enotee: you don't have either nvidia or ati
[01:23] <tapas> it seems .profile does not get evaluated upon login via kdm
[01:23] <tapas> is that on purpose?
[01:23] <scognito> i updated to edgy and everyhing did fine, i tried to install xgl and now i get black screen when i start X
[01:23] <voraistos> !info xserver-xorg dapper
[01:23] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 344 kB
[01:23] <scheuri> !xorg-xserver
[01:23] <scognito> even if i uninstall everything i cannot load X anymore
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg-xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <Ace> could someone help me get my java to work
[01:23] <frying_fish> enotee: you have an intel graphics, and therefore x will auto detect everything for it (at least it should) for widescreen resolution you may need 915resolution
[01:23] <livingdaylight> frying_fish: highlight, yes, but how to paste in browser afterthat?
[01:23] <ndlovu> ompaul, they all seem to start with "<1>Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address"...
[01:23] <frying_fish> livingdaylight: middle click
[01:23] <Paddy_EIRE> !fspot
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fspot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <enotee> can i install beryl
[01:24] <livingdaylight> frying_fish: have to copy it first though
[01:24] <voraistos> enotee: which graphic card ?
[01:24] <livingdaylight> enotee: i give you permission
[01:24] <scognito> i get the error "cannot load keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm"
[01:24] <mormoloc> has anybody had problems with edgy(applications runnig slower than usual)
[01:24] <scognito> can someone please help me
[01:24] <mormoloc> after upgrading dapper?
[01:24] <Rookie> !nvidia
[01:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:24] <enotee> i mean will it work?
[01:24] <scheuri> livingdaylight: I revoke! How dare you giving him permission?
[01:24] <frying_fish> livingdaylight: just highlight with middle mouse then click
[01:25] <frying_fish> thats how copying works.
[01:25] <frying_fish> enotee: it might do
[01:25] <TimothyP> Hello, I was installing ubuntu, I had a disk of 300GB with data on there already, I had 2 other disk which I partitions, I told ubuntu to mount the old drive in /media/backup	ubuntu didn't boot after installing so I looked to installing it again, but now that backup disk says unallocated ..... !!!!!! is all my data completely lost ?
[01:25] <frying_fish> can't garuntee
[01:25] <frying_fish> use google, see what it says
[01:25] <Paddy_EIRE> !F-spot
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about F-spot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <Paddy_EIRE> err
[01:25] <ndlovu> !f-spot > Paddy_EIRE
[01:25] <Paddy_EIRE> ndlovu: thanks man
[01:25] <frying_fish> TimothyP: how do you mean "Unallocated" as in a mount point hasn't been allocated or no data there?
[01:25] <voraistos> mormoloc: try to compile your own kernel. edgy's kernel is way too general for me
[01:26] <frying_fish> as if it just hasn't been given a mount point it is fine
[01:26] <tijn> Hi all, any news on edgy with Firefox 2.0? (flash)
[01:26] <livingdaylight> scheuri: lol, :)
[01:26] <frying_fish> oh and unless you did something silly it won't have overwritten it by default
[01:26] <scheuri> livingdaylight: ;)
[01:26] <enotee> thnx i'll try it
[01:26] <frying_fish> tijn: yeah, has FF2.0 and flash well you can get that.
[01:26] <TimothyP> frying_fish gparted and the ubuntu partition manager both say 298MB unallocated space
[01:26] <frying_fish> then it has no file format
[01:26] <frying_fish> so maybe broken
[01:26] <frying_fish> you must have done something wrong
[01:26] <tijn> frying_fish: some ppl have trouble with it
[01:27] <mormoloc> voraistos: any tutorial on how to do that (im kind of new to .... )
[01:27] <ehird> bleh?
[01:27] <TimothyP> I think the bios might have deleted the MBR
[01:27] <frying_fish> tijn: but it is very simple to use, just tell it to ignore drives you don't want it to touch, or if you really are paranoid, unplug them first then do any partitioning
[01:27] <TimothyP> is that possible ?
[01:27] <frying_fish> anythings possible
[01:27] <raist78> hi all, i have a question about edgy and aiglx with a readeon 9600XT ...i was able to make them work but i'm having some trouble with sessions
[01:27] <darkanyel> hi, how can i open a .0 and .1 files
[01:28] <TimothyP> I've installed ubuntu and ubuntu server like a thousand times
[01:28] <ompaul> ndlovu, that is a issue, what exactly I don't know - I would start by closing off all services you dont need (easy way to do this is bum - don't close off something unless you are sure)  but really the fact you had to go looking indicates there is something amiss
[01:28] <TimothyP> this is the first time this happened
[01:28] <theplatypus> is there an easy way to change the username on a single user pc?
[01:28] <tijn> frying_fish: ? i ment edgy and FF2.0 ;)
[01:28] <frying_fish> darkanyel: they could be anything, maybe a text editor.
[01:28] <frying_fish> tijn: what about them?
[01:28] <frying_fish> oh, they have trouble with them
[01:28] <ompaul> voraistos, not every day - but that is a different days debate
[01:28] <tijn> well, some ppl have trouble with it, FF hangs completly
[01:28] <frying_fish> wouldn't that be because flash is not so good on linux
[01:28] <voraistos> mormoloc: you have too look for how tos on the forums. however i am not sure anyone did it for edgy. i actually tried and it failed 3 times for some reason. i never failed compiling my kernel before edgy. i will try doing it using a vanilla kernel, and then ill make a wiki
[01:28] <ehird> no ideas at all?
[01:28] <ndlovu> ompaul, seems like it's a problem with BackupPC... I'll troll through their support forums and see what I can come up with
[01:28] <tijn> frying_fish: dunno but ff2 on edgy, its all flash
[01:29] <ehird> behhh
[01:29] <ompaul> ndlovu, it is that - but why on ubuntu etc ..
[01:29] <livingdaylight> can someone look at this sources.list of mine. Some reason it doesn't install opera or realplayer and plf isn't working either http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29351/
[01:29] <cryptonic> how do i mount a partition?
[01:29] <darkanyel> frying_fish, is a video, and there are two parts 0 and 1
[01:29] <ompaul> livingdaylight, the # in front of plf stops it working - but it is rare it works anyway
[01:29] <ompaul> !plf
[01:29] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[01:30] <Bergcube> On a dual-booing machine (xp + Ubuntu) is there any GUI-tool that can clone a disk or partition, similar to Ghost?  I want to let the users make images of their entire win-partitions.  (I know about dd of course, but that is profoundly command-line, and that is too high a threshold for some of thm.)
[01:30] <livingdaylight> ompaul: i put # because it wasn't working even after i gave the key
[01:30] <frying_fish> darkanyel: then something like vlc
[01:30] <putzel> hello i'm looking for some infos on how to generate a initrd image for my custom compiled kernel
[01:30] <ompaul> livingdaylight, well they are not online and I am gone
[01:30] <livingdaylight> ompaul: if it generally don't work,ok, but what about the rest?
[01:30] <frying_fish> livingdaylight: did you not have a look at your own forum post
[01:31] <livingdaylight> ompaul: what is not online?
[01:31] <frying_fish> about the sources, where I replied saying you need to add multiverse for more than just back-ports
[01:31] <livingdaylight> frying_fish: huh?
[01:31] <jenda> Anyone have an idea how to get bitlbee connected to a jabber room?
[01:31] <frying_fish> ok, they have been changed now
[01:31] <dcypherd> has any one successfully upgraded to 6.10?
[01:31] <frying_fish> have you since done an apt-get update?
[01:31] <thandavarayan> putzel: use make-kpkg --initird kernel_image
[01:31] <scheuri> dcypherd: of course!
[01:31] <livingdaylight> frying_fish: you are mystifying me, what post? where?
[01:31] <willys_fueguino> Sorry to ask here, but does anyone managed to burn a dvd with subtitles (without pasting it to the video) from linux??
[01:32] <Bergcube> dcypherd~  I've upgraded without any problems whatsoever on several machines.
[01:32] <frying_fish> I am sure it was you that made a post on the forum about not being able to get realplayer to install
[01:32] <frying_fish> 95% sure it was your nickname
[01:32] <dcypherd> cuz i have heard horror stories about upgrading in linux
[01:32] <Dragonfire1> GM
[01:32] <scheuri> upgrading ubuntu...
[01:32] <boink> "linux" doesn't exist, it's just a kernel
[01:32] <klos> anyone here had problem with upgrade to edgy and the x!11R6/bin folder because it snot empty
[01:33] <klos> i had an opera file in there
[01:33] <ndlovu> can anyone help me with some elementary scripting? I would like to run a command (pdf2ps) on all the files in a directory. pdf2ps * doesn't seem to do the trick...
[01:33] <dcypherd> ok thx
[01:33] <ehird> :S
[01:33] <klos> upgrade crashed now ive emptied the folde by myself but i cant continue with upgrade
[01:33] <putzel> thandavarayan, make-kpkg is not available on my system :(
[01:33] <dcypherd> lemme rephrase
[01:33] <thandavarayan> putzel: :-) install kernel-package
[01:33] <boink> putzen: you need to install it with apt-get
[01:33] <dcypherd> i've heard horror stories about upgrading some distros
[01:34] <boink> with any OS, upgrading can be a horror story
[01:34] <dcypherd> what a faux pas
[01:34] <boink> peut-etre ..
[01:34] <thandavarayan> putzel: then download the kernel image, extract to /usr/src then make menuconfig, then make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image
[01:34] <Dr_willis> ndlovu,  looking at the man pages - it seems you use  pdf2ps [ options ]  input.pdf [output.ps] , which imples you have to set a output.ps for each file as well.. you may have to write a script/use xargs to get it all working right.
[01:34] <thandavarayan> putzel: you also need to install ncurses developement package
[01:35] <dcypherd> how big is the update dl?
[01:35] <Bergcube> dcypherd~  I think you can benefit from reading this:  http://jonathancarter.co.za/?p=58
[01:35] <boink> big
[01:35] <ehird> oh come on
[01:35] <livingdaylight> frying_fish: what forum post please?
[01:35] <scheuri> dcypherd: quite a lot actually...afaik about 600 MByte
[01:35] <ndlovu> Dr_willis, thx; I've avoided scripting so far - any pointers to a good how-to on elementary scripting?
[01:35] <dcypherd> 300 mb? 600?
[01:36] <frying_fish> livingdaylight: guessing it wasn't you then, if you don't know anything about someone posting on the ubuntu forums about their sources list and not getting realplayer
[01:36] <dcypherd> thx
[01:36] <putzel> thandavarayan, ok i'm trying :)
[01:36] <Dr_willis> ndlovu,  advanced bash scripting guide - is a must read.. google for xarg examples i guess.. also.
[01:36] <willys_fueguino> someone??
[01:36] <thandavarayan> klos: what was the problem, when X11R folder is not empty...
[01:36] <ndlovu> Dr_willis, I'm looking through google, shouldn't be too hard to find...
[01:36] <pupeno_> Once a mapping is defined in /etc/crypttab, how do I activate it ?
[01:36] <frying_fish> dcypherd: depends on your packages, it says 763MB for me.
[01:37] <earthian> Bokeh, i just used apt-get install ia320libs* and now somehow skype works :D
[01:37] <dcypherd> hmmmm
[01:37] <earthian> 0=-*
[01:37] <klos> thandavarayan, it said it cant upgrade the xserver because the bin folder is not empty
[01:37] <Bergcube> I'm repeating myself.....:  On a dual-booing machine (xp + Ubuntu) is there any GUI-tool that can clone a disk or partition, similar to Ghost?  I want to let the users make images of their entire win-partitions.  (I know about dd of course, but that is profoundly command-line, and that is too high a threshold for some of them.)
[01:37] <livingdaylight> frying_fish: oh, guessing... well, maybe while sleep walking or otherwise unconscious i did! i'm happy to look at the link. BUt the point is i have cnanoncal repos set and none of them including realplayer and opera appear available to me
[01:37] <putzel> thandavarayan, omg i think it's recompiling everything now :)
[01:37] <dcypherd> kewl
[01:37] <thandavarayan> putzel: thats the magic...or.. :-)
[01:37] <baastrup> hi, i was wondring where the disk-admin is in edgy?
[01:37] <klos> the bin folder had an opera file, ive removed it manually
[01:37] <frying_fish> livingdaylight: I can't remember the post, or the topic, its probably dissappeared and I cba to trawl through the forums looking for it
[01:38] <klos> but cnart continue upgrade now
[01:38] <baastrup> the gui for mounting partitons
[01:38] <thandavarayan> klos: is that upgrade from dapper to 6.10 or...
[01:38] <klos> get failure sin apt-get install -f
[01:38] <klos> yes
[01:38] <snowblink> I know you can install LAMP on initial install. What is the best way to install LAMP on an existing Dapper?
[01:38] <putzel> thandavarayan, let's hope it works.. i only recompile because i want to set the HIGHMEM option for my kernel since i have over 1gb of ram now
[01:39] <scheuri> putzel: afaik its enabled by default...
[01:39] <livingdaylight> frying_fish: sure, np :) me either. You got any idea judging from my sources.list though why i can't get opera etc? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29351/
[01:39] <thandavarayan> putzel: It will work, if you done alright with make menuconfig
[01:39] <boink> snowblink: with apt-get
[01:39] <fjellrev1> Anyone know what happened to Disk Manager in Edgy?
[01:39] <Paddy_EIRE> how would I completely remove an application including any settings that it may leave behind so I can do a fresh install of it again
[01:39] <scheuri> putzel: at least with the arch-kernels
[01:39] <thandavarayan> klos: can you say about the failure message when apt-get -f install is done
[01:40] <snowblink> boink, obviously I can install all the packages by hand, but I was wondering if there is a meta package or something
[01:40] <thandavarayan> fjellrev1: disk manager in the sense...
[01:40] <frying_fish> livingdaylight: nope, unless it doesn't actually exist foryour architecture, its like me trying to get acroread (which is 32bit only)
[01:40] <ehird> come on people i don't want to have to go back to windoze :(
[01:40] <frying_fish> although it does show up (or have some related packages) when I try to install it, it just goes nah can't find it
[01:40] <willys_fueguino> Sorry to ask here, but does anyone managed to burn a dvd with subtitles (without pasting it to the video) from linux??
[01:40] <boink> apt-get is a meta package thing
[01:40] <thandavarayan> ehird: what is the problem in throwing windows.. :-)
[01:40] <klos> ill try to remove opera now manually maybe this works becaue its in conflict with it, i will msg you if it doesnt work at all
[01:40] <thee> why don't media buttons work with quod libet?
[01:40] <boink> sudo apt-get install apache2 or sudo apt-get install mysql ..
[01:41] <putzel> scheuri, i don't know but here it's not.. but i don't know why, i'm not the admin :)
[01:41] <livingdaylight> frying_fish: my architecture is 32.bit and never was an issue before edgy, thats why i ask
[01:41] <ehird> thandavarayan: urr
[01:41] <ehird> i said going BACK to windows
[01:41] <scheuri> putzel: what does uname -r tell you?
[01:41] <ehird> -.-
[01:41] <dcypherd> why u goin back to win
[01:41] <boink> why not?
[01:41] <putzel> 2.6.10-5-386
[01:41] <klos> dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb (--unpack): versuche /usr/X11R6/bin zu berschreiben, welches auch in Paket opera ist
 Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von: /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:41] <ehird> i don't want to have to but if nobody can fix my x problem i'll have to
[01:41] <klos> thats the failure thandavarayan
[01:41] <snowblink> boink, that is by hand... there is no lamp package containing apache, mysql, php, mod_php, etc.
[01:41] <thandavarayan> ehird: you dont have any success in installing windows or...
[01:42] <scheuri> putzel: hmm, okay...if it is a intel, you may want to use -686 instead...I think himem is enabled there
[01:42] <boink> snowblink: check apt-cache
[01:42] <dcypherd> whats your problem with X
[01:42] <baastrup> does anyone else have probelms with slow boot, and fsck hanging???
[01:42] <ehird> thandavarayan: what the heck? I said I don't WANT to go back to windows
[01:42] <ehird> dcypherd: i've said this all beforem but fine, give me a minute to type it out
[01:42] <snowblink> boink, I wonder if you are trying to help or be obnoxious
[01:42] <boink> snowblink: no, it's using the right tools
[01:42] <boink> and rudeness will get you nowhere
[01:43] <thandavarayan> klos: uhhaaa that is in German.
[01:43] <klos> yes#:P
[01:43] <ehird> After a failed resize of a reiserfs partition with gpartedlivecd, it crashed that so i hard rebooted. fsck fixed like 2 errors on the file system and then booted into a kde login screen. i typed my pass and hit enter and it restarted x and showed the same screen. i removed and installed x-window-system-core, kdm and kde-core and now when logging in it opens a terminal window in the top left with no title bar and it just... stays there
[01:43] <Bokeh> earthian: nice :)
[01:43] <ehird> /that's/ my problem
[01:43] <earthian> yap
[01:44] <Bokeh> didn't think of that because it's pretty much default on my 64bits installations
[01:44] <scheuri> snowblink: have you tried: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:44] <thee> quodlibet and media buttons? anyone?
[01:44] <thandavarayan> klos: hast du geshene im www.ubuntuguide.org oder...but dont continue writing in Germany...my german is very very rustic.
[01:44] <dcypherd> ehird: sorry wasn't here  for it... um and you've tried recompiling the xserver
[01:45] <klos> :P
[01:45] <klos> im running synaptic now
[01:45] <klos> ive rmoved opera and they filled the dependencies
[01:45] <klos> maybe it works now
[01:45] <ehird> dcypherd: so i have to recompile x to make a system that worked fine before work? Riiiight... not doing that, thanks
[01:45] <thandavarayan> klos: I am not sure...but try...
[01:45] <dcypherd> ehird: why aren't you using ext3
[01:45] <ehird> dcypherd: actually, i am on this linux partition.
[01:45] <dcypherd> i did it
[01:46] <ehird> it's another partition.
[01:46] <gorg3b> hi there, i'd got a problem whit the live-cd of edgy, if i do start the installation (icon on desktop) the whole system stucks after a while, i think thats caused by a little to less ram, is there any possiblity to start the installer without the live-desktop?
[01:46] <ehird> which i was trying to make smaller to put on the ext3 one, then reformat to ext3 and copy it back actually
[01:46] <ehird> which creates a nice irony.
[01:46] <scheuri> gorg3b: yes...use the "alternate" CD of Ubuntu edgy
[01:46] <ehird> and isn't that totally unrelated question?!
[01:46] <dcypherd> haha
[01:46] <thee> gorg3b: alternate cd
[01:46] <thandavarayan> gorg3b: may be you can try alternate CD
[01:46] <snowblink> scheuri, thanks.
[01:46] <scheuri> gorg3b: there are three flavours...server, alternate and live (I guess)
[01:46] <dcypherd> i just find it odd nm
[01:46] <scheuri> snowblink: welcome
[01:47] <scheuri> gorg3b: try alternate
[01:47] <putzel> thandavarayan, ok now i hav the .deb file... but if i install it now, will it overwrite my current kernel ?
[01:47] <dcypherd> u don't want to recompile x it only takes 6 hours of your life
[01:47] <dcypherd> haha
[01:47] <dcypherd> jk
[01:47] <ehird> dcypherd: i don't find it funny personally, but whatever
[01:47] <scheuri> putzel: well, let me advise you...install the -686 kernel first before using your own...
[01:47] <dcypherd> i'm just kiddin around
[01:48] <thandavarayan> putzel: I dont think so...check the name of the file, it will have time or date stamp and end with custom.deb
[01:48] <ehird> dcypherd: then why don't you kid around in the offtopic channel instead of the support channel?
[01:48] <thandavarayan> putzel: if so....then you can safely install the *.deb
[01:48] <dcypherd> ok we are getting a little touchy
[01:49] <[] Sentinel> hi all
[01:49] <[] Sentinel> is there a connection tool for PPPoE on Gnome?
[01:49] <gorg3b> any other option cause i'm on a f*** download limit?
[01:49] <scheuri> gorg3b: I am afraid not as far as I know
[01:50] <thandavarayan> putzel: it puts one more entry on /boot/grub/menu.lst :-)
[01:50] <dcypherd> and its not possible to do a reinstall
[01:50] <dcypherd> because you have stuff on that partition
[01:50] <dcypherd> correct?
[01:50] <ehird> dcypherd: corerct
[01:51] <ehird> and i have nowhere to back it up
[01:51] <ehird> well i could use my windows drive but it's slow and noisy and... wait i can't, it's ntfs.
[01:51] <dcypherd> that was my next suggestion
[01:51] <ehird> so yeah, nowhere
[01:51] <[] Sentinel> is there a connection tool for PPPoE on Gnome?
[01:51] <dcypherd> yeah
[01:51] <[] Sentinel> which one?`
[01:51] <dcypherd> how big is the partition
[01:51] <ehird> dcypherd: windoze or linux
[01:52] <dcypherd> lin
[01:52] <scheuri> [] Sentinel: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[01:52] <gorg3b> is it possible to use some swap space ob the disk? and how to activate during install
[01:52] <[] Sentinel> ty
[01:52] <ehird> linux is 50gb with like 1gb free
[01:52] <dcypherd> mmm
[01:52] <ehird> is it possible to totally uninstall x + kde stuff without losing all my kde apps and all?
[01:52] <ehird> then i'd just reinstall them
[01:52] <ehird> (the x + kde not my apps)
[01:53] <thandavarayan> gorg3b: you can use gparted to select the available space to make it swap...
[01:53] <Tim90> Guys i have a high pitched niost comming from my pc, i knw what it is it the CPU
[01:53] <IndyBC> Hello. I have a python script. How do I turn it into a .deb file?
[01:53] <gorg3b> thats done allready but the live cd dont use ist...
[01:53] <cheeseruler> [13:53]  <Tim90> Guys i have a high pitched niost comming from my pc, i knw what it is it the CPU
[01:53] <cheeseruler> :o
[01:53] <ehird> Tim90: are you sure you don't have tinnitus? :)
[01:53] <scheuri> Tim90: its probably the fan, not the CPU itself, right?
[01:53] <cheeseruler> like sissing?
[01:53] <cheeseruler> *sst*sst*ssst
[01:53] <dcypherd> yeah like recompiling x wouldn't cost you anything and it doesn't touch your files
[01:53] <dcypherd> but it takes long
[01:53] <ehird> virusbuntu :D
[01:54] <Tim90> scheuri:
[01:54] <thandavarayan> IndyBC: better you look into apt manual.
[01:54] <[] Sentinel> <<scheuri>> I'd like to have a tool with a gui...
[01:54] <ehird> dcypherd: i'm not compiling x, thanks
[01:54] <jrib> IndyBC: that's not trivial, you can read the packaging guides at help.ubuntu.com as well as the debian maintainer's guide, and the debian packaging guide (inlcuding the python section)
[01:54] <[] Sentinel> or can i code one myself ?
[01:54] <[] Sentinel> like Kinternet on suse linux
[01:54] <jrib> !motu > IndyBC
[01:54] <Tim90> scheuri:i will unplug the fan for a second to see if the niose is still there
[01:54] <dcypherd> haha well then a removable hard drive
[01:54] <scheuri> [] Sentinel: yes, I know...but that is what help.ubuntu.com came across with...and yes...go for it programming...
[01:54] <IndyBC> thandavarayan, jrib: ok, thanks guys :)
[01:54] <ehird> unplug the fan? woooo yay
[01:54] <ehird> this will be interesting
[01:54] <scheuri> Tim90: I HIGLY ADVISE AGAINST THAT
[01:54] <ehird> no i gotta see this :D
[01:55] <scheuri> oh my...
[01:55] <Tim90> scheuri:why
[01:55] <scheuri> why?
[01:55] <Tim90> its for a minute
[01:55] <scheuri> because your CPU will get very very hot
[01:55] <scheuri> a minute???
[01:55] <ehird> and explode into fragments of bytes
[01:55] <Tim90> no second
[01:55] <ehird> and turn you out of the matrix
[01:55] <Tim90> :-*
[01:55] <scheuri> well...at your own risk...
[01:55] <Tim90> ok
[01:55] <scheuri> don't blame me then
[01:55] <ehird> ... is canonical liable for this?
[01:55] <Bokeh> unplugging your cpu fan is bad(c)
[01:55] <ehird> :P
[01:56] <Tim90> scheuri:i dont it
[01:56] <Tim90> it was still there
[01:56] <thandavarayan> dont unplug your fan, your cpu may explode.
[01:56] <ehird> Tim90: are you sure you put it back on? :p
[01:56] <cheeseruler> maybe contact #pc-problems Tim90 haha
[01:56] <cheeseruler> :p
[01:56] <ehird> scheuri: only if you were in #matrix
[01:56] <ehird> maybe #life too
[01:56] <Bokeh> if you really need to try it, turn off your pc, let your cpu cool down for a minute, block your fan with a pencil or something like that for a VERY VERY VERY short time while it's just turned on.
[01:56] <Tim90> scheuri:lissten to me carefuly
[01:56] <cheeseruler> ya i try that ehird LaughingoutLoud
[01:57] <Tim90> scheuri:are you listenning
[01:57] <scheuri> Tim90: I do, Tim, I do...
[01:57] <Bokeh> but it's not very healthy for your fan's blades or rollers :)
[01:57] <ehird> tim90: Aaare youuuu listeninnnngnggg
[01:57] <ehird> so anybody know an apt-get command to do what i need? :*
[01:58] <scheuri> ehird: man aptitude?
[01:58] <boink> apt-get to fix a reiserFS slice?
[01:58] <Bokeh> what do you want to do ehird?
[01:58] <ehird> scheuri: aptitude is broken for me
[01:58] <ehird> i just need to know how to
[01:58] <drhouse_> hello. i see only 85 refresh.. how can i see lower?
[01:58] <ehird> apt-get remove <all kde and x stuff, but not my apps>
[01:58] <ehird> i just don't know what to replace the <>s with :p
[01:58] <Sephnroth> guys i setup a svn with webdav and i can see it (empty) in my browser at its address but when i try to login it always says the auth failed despite me following the guide to the letter :/  any clues what i might of missed?
[01:58] <scheuri> drhouse_: do you mind if I say "by looking down"?
[01:58] <Bokeh> what does the log say, seph?
[01:58] <thandavarayan> drhouse_: where ?
[01:58] <drhouse_> :)
[01:58] <Tim90> scheuri:whe i go to adminstration > services> and dissable the CPU frequency manager the niose isnt as loud
[01:59] <drhouse_> a lower refresh
[01:59] <Tim90> scheuri:
[01:59] <scheuri> Tim90: hm, okay...
[01:59] <Sephnroth> which log?  on my server (ubuntu) or in my svn client (tortoise svn, windows)
[01:59] <Tim90> so its got to be the cpu right >
[01:59] <scheuri> Tim90: but that also could mean, that your CPU fan is not running that fast anymore
[01:59] <ehird> Tim90: how high is it?
[01:59] <scheuri> Tim90: no, I would not say this...
[01:59] <ehird> for my my computer emits a slightly-high noise
[01:59] <maxb_at_work> Does anyone know how I can make pbuilder not remove the transient build chroot?
[01:59] <ehird> if it's much higher you might have tinnitus :)
[01:59] <Tim90> but i turned me fan off the niose was still there
[02:00] <scheuri> Tim90: yu really turned it off? the propellers didnt turn around anymore?
[02:00] <Tim90> ehird:its the most annoying sound i have ever heard
[02:00] <ehird> Tim90: heh
[02:00] <Tim90> scheuri:Correct
[02:00] <ehird> Tim90: try having a constant ringing in your ears
[02:01] <Tim90> thats wat it iss
[02:01] <scheuri> Tim90: listen...its just that I have a hard time to believe that it is the CPU...any other fans there? have you plugged anything in for your audio which may cause a loop?
[02:01] <Tim90> Its like hissing
[02:01] <ehird> Tim90: computers hiss you know :D
[02:01] <AntoVinci> ciao a tutti
[02:01] <Drac|School> I've just installed Ubuntu Dapper on a dual boot. GRUB doesn't seem to recognize the (0,1) property of my root filesystem. It tries to boot (0,0) even though (0,1) and hda2 are specified. What can I do to fix it?
[02:01] <brice> hello . Even if i'm french, i test to discuss here of my problem because nobody answer me on french chan ubuntu-fr. I just buy an ACER ASPIRE 9302 wich have a webcam integrated. I search help to help me to configure it. AMD64. Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0402:5602 ALi Corp. http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capture1in9.png
[02:01] <AntoVinci> ci sono italiani
[02:01] <AntoVinci> che usano ubuntu
[02:01] <scheuri> !it
[02:01] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:01] <Tim90> ehird: It didnt hiss under windows
[02:02] <AntoVinci> ok
[02:02] <Drac|School> My partitions on the primary harddrive are hda1: Windows  hda2: Ubuntu root
[02:02] <ehird> Tim90: windows stresses your hardware so much that the noise drowns out any other noises i'd bet ;)
[02:02] <scheuri> Tim90: when did you boot windows the last time?
[02:03] <[] Sentinel> <<scheuri>> couldn't install pppoe since i can't connect :P Using Gnome on FreeBSD actually, but i thought ^^
[02:03] <Drac|School> This is an important school project and I've never had this problem before. Please help.
[02:03] <[] Sentinel> well I'm switching to ubuntu anyway
[02:03] <maxb_at_work> I have had a laptop which really did make different noises depending on whether it was running windows or linux. It's not impossible.
[02:03] <scheuri> Drac|School: well, you boot and grub stops somewhere telling you what?
[02:03] <Tim90> scheuri:i do most off the time i have my files there
[02:03] <cheeseruler> pff ehird
[02:03] <cheeseruler> windows RULES :P
[02:03] <brice> PS i'm on EDGY
[02:03] <ehird> [] Sentinel: if you'e using freebsd why are you in #ubuntu?!
[02:03] <ehird> cheeseruler: you suck :D
[02:03] <cheeseruler> or is that bad to say here :p
[02:04] <cheeseruler> LaughingoutLoud
[02:04] <ehird> cheeseruler: yes
[02:04] <scheuri> Tim90: well then...it really may be the CPU then...hmmm
[02:04] <cheeseruler> windows is like poison?
[02:04] <ehird> cheeseruler: take your laughing out louds to #windoze
[02:04] <ehird> :D
[02:04] <Sentinel> http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/ubuntu.iso/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[02:04] <Sentinel> can't download last few bytes
[02:04] <cheeseruler> ow sorry, is that not allowed here?
[02:04] <Sentinel> *help*
[02:04] <cheeseruler> use the torrent then
[02:04] <Drac|School> scheuri: It's the usually can't find root on this partition problem. I can't quote it word for word, but it says it can't find the root filesystem on unknown block (0,0). The grub line specifies (0,1)
[02:04] <ehird> surely removing x+kde totally but not its apps isn't THAT hard?!
[02:04] <Tim90> scheuri:remeber what i said about disabling the CPU frequency manager
[02:04] <Sentinel> already got 99% :(
[02:04] <cheeseruler> or other mirror
[02:04] <Dr_willis> or use wget
[02:04] <Hooke2> hi
[02:05] <Sentinel> -.-
[02:05] <scheuri> Drac|School: maybe it got altered...had that once, too...had to boot it and going into "grub mode" (can't remember how I did actually, sorry) and from there you can edit menu.lst...
[02:05] <Drac|School> usual*
[02:05] <Sentinel> got DownThemAll! <-- firefox. It says suddenly "N/A"
[02:05] <scheuri> Tim90: I do remember...
[02:06] <Drac|School> scheuri: I checked menu.list's settings via the esc key and 'e' for edit in GRUB. From there I realized that the line was correct despite it not booting. GRUB is misbehaving.
[02:06] <cheeseruler> Sentinel
[02:06] <Sentinel> =
[02:06] <Sentinel> ?
[02:06] <cheeseruler> were are you from
[02:06] <Sentinel> germany
[02:06] <Tim90> scheuri:i need to play around with the CPU frequency manager
[02:06] <cheeseruler> you have a nice connection to the internet?
[02:06] <Tim90> but it only has enable and disable
[02:06] <scheuri> Drac|School: hmmm...that is bad...are you sure its the right partition you have as root? I often mix up root and swap
 what do you mean by nice?
[02:07] <Sentinel> just DSL 1024/256
[02:07] <Sentinel> nothing special
[02:07] <cheeseruler> oh ok that i wanna to know
[02:07] <cheeseruler> then redownloading sux :P
[02:07] <Drac|School> scheuri: Swap is on block (1,2). Home is (1,0) and a fat32 partition is (1,1)
[02:07] <Tim90> scheuri:atleast i know what it is now ,and can shearch the internet for peaple who have had the same problem
[02:07] <ehird> sentinel:and you mean 1Mbitps therefore 100Kilobytesps
[02:07] <ehird> thus slow :p
 that's what i said
[02:07] <Sentinel> yeah
[02:07] <Drac|School> scheuri: Different hard drive altogether.
[02:08] <Sentinel> 10 MB left and it fails -.-
[02:08] <pupeno_> Hello.
[02:08] <pupeno_> I am trying to configure pam mount to mount my encrypted filesystem. My problem is it tries to mount /dev/mapper/pupeno without first creating the mapping. Do you know what might I be missing ?
[02:08] <ehird> some day i want really 1Megabyteps
[02:08] <ehird> that would be cool :p
[02:08] <scheuri> Drac|School: maybe grub is on the wrong one? I mean...in the MBR? wild guess
[02:08] <cheeseruler> finalbeta take ur hands of me :S
[02:08] <Hooke2> hi, I'm having problems with edgy for amd64: automatix wont install dvdrip, mplayer, plugins for firefox 2.0, debian menu and swiftbox plugins. Is anyone else having the same problem? thanks
[02:08] <Drac|School> scheuri: How could that be? I'll try 1,1, however.
[02:08] <rausb0> Sentinel: tried using wget?
[02:08] <Drac|School> scheuri: It's quite possible, actually.
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Hooke2: try #automatix
[02:09] <Tim90> scheuri:Good news i have found advanced seting for the frequency manager
[02:09] <scheuri> Drac|School: as I said...wild guess...:)
[02:09] <Sentinel> well KPPP doesn't know my eth0 / rl0
[02:09] <Drac|School> scheuri: The installer saw my Windows installation on the primary and put grub in the same place, though, I think.
[02:09] <py_> Is their a reason for reiserfs not to be present anymore in 6.10 installer while it was in 6.06?
[02:09] <Drac|School> scheuri: I'll figure it out. Thanks for that idea. It's possible.
[02:09] <Hooke2> Admiral_Chicago, ok, thanks
[02:09] <ehird> Please can someone help!
[02:10] <cheeseruler> with what ehird?
[02:10] <ehird> cheeseruler: so only the 5th time i have to repeat myself.
[02:10] <cheeseruler> i have the solution: install windows
[02:10] <cheeseruler> lmao..
[02:10] <ehird> "surely removing x+kde totally but not its apps isn't THAT hard?!" I just need an apt-get line to remove that and its configuration
[02:10] <cheeseruler> ah
[02:10] <cheeseruler> contact finalbeta, he knows it
[02:10] <ehird> cheeseruler: if you're joking, it's not funny, if you're trolling, it's not funny.
[02:11] <Sephnroth> Bokeh: i have got past the authentification problem but now when trying to import to my svn server my client reports that it cant create the directory, permission denied :/ do i need to like.. create a user on my ubuntu machine with same name as svn user and give it su powers or something? :/
[02:11] <ehird> (re: windows)
[02:11] <Sentinel> how well will run ubuntu64 on my Acer Aspire notebook?
[02:11] <cheeseruler> nah, i have a question to :p
[02:11] <finalbeta_> ehird, it is a little.
[02:11] <py_> Why is reiserfs gone in Edgy installer?
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> Sentinel: it'll run fairly well
[02:11] <ehird> finalbeta_: how come?
[02:11] <cheeseruler> just take it easy ehird, maybe post on ubuntu forums if you cant get a answer here ;P
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> you can run a 32 bit enviroment
[02:11] <finalbeta_> py_, I think it never was in Dapper 2.
[02:11] <Bokeh> Sephnroth: are you running svn through apache?
[02:11] <Tim90> scheuri:i need a faver
[02:11] <Drac|School> scheuri: The line says "root (hd0,1)"   Is that right?
 why not 64 ?
[02:12] <Bokeh> if so, apache will need write permissions on your svn repo
[02:12] <ehird> cheeseruler: um, i'm stranded to the terminal. how on earth can i post on the forum? lynx and elinks die on the posting screen
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> problem is SOME software is only 32 bit. same thing with windows
[02:12] <Sephnroth> eys with WebDav- i followed this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187739
[02:12] <Drac|School> brb
[02:12] <scheuri> Drac|School: can't say if that is right...it takes the first partition on the first disk as root...is that right?
[02:12] <finalbeta_> ehird, what exaclty is the problem again?
[02:12] <scheuri> Tim90: well...shoot
[02:12] <Sephnroth> although to get the authentification to work i had to delete the password file and remake it from scratch
[02:12] <ehird> finalbeta_:
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> Sentinel since 64 bit is so new,some software isn't correctly written for it
[02:12] <ehird> "surely removing x+kde totally but not its apps isn't THAT hard?!" I just need an apt-get line to remove that and its configuration
[02:12] <Sephnroth> i am using Basic Authentification
[02:12] <Drac|School> scheuri: No. It should be the second partition on the first disk. brb
[02:12] <py_> finalbeta_: ah, perhaps, I never installer this one (juste 6.06). Anyway, do you know the technical or other reasons it was dropped for?
[02:12] <Sephnroth> *authentication
[02:12] <^robertj> is dist-upgrade still the preferred way to do upgrades without the gui?
[02:13] <Sentinel> Admiral_Chicago so i am better off with 32? I just want to use it for coding...
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> Sentinel however I saw an article that Open Source had better 64 bit support
[02:13] <Alakazamz0r> morning
[02:13] <Sentinel> thats what i wanted to hear
[02:13] <Sentinel> ty Admiral_Chicago
[02:13] <scheuri> Sentinel: if you want to be sure, use 32bi...
[02:13] <Sentinel> argh
[02:13] <scheuri> no really...
[02:13] <Sentinel> :(
[02:13] <scheuri> you might be lucky and everything works...but you may be unlucky...its merely a driver issue I guess
[02:13] <Tim90> please go to system>adminstration>services>and then go to the CPU frequency manager,right click then properties. tell me what the settings are
[02:14] <Tim90> scheuri:
[02:14] <scheuri> Tim90: sorry, I am on KDE
[02:14] <Sentinel> bah KDE su**
[02:14] <scheuri> Tim90: but wait...I try
[02:14] <Tim90>  Some one please go to system>adminstration>services>and then go to the CPU frequency manager,right click then properties. tell me what the settings are
[02:14] <ehird> Sentinel: why?
[02:14] <scheuri> Sentinel: well...that is not a bright thing to say....opensource is about choice...I made mine
[02:14] <Sentinel> KDE is colourfull and cpu-consumpting and well
[02:15] <ehird> colourful is a reason for sucking?!
[02:15] <ehird> Holy lol!
[02:15] <Sentinel> ... I just like gnome better :P
[02:15] <scheuri> see...
[02:15] <ehird> Sentinel: yeah, well, this is a support channel
[02:15] <scheuri> I wont blame you for that
[02:15] <scheuri> :)
[02:15] <Sentinel> :>
[02:15] <Sentinel> a supp channel with no ops and no service bot and...
[02:15] <rausb0> Sentinel: well, gnome is a cpu hog too. i prefer xfce. you see, there is no "best" choice. its a matter of personal taste.
[02:15] <scheuri> no service bot?
[02:15] <ehird> Sentinel: freenode says that ops should be private
[02:15] <finalbeta_> ehird, I doubt that is easy, don't know a way to do it without dependencies, sudo apt-get install --purge --reinstall xserver-xorg gnome, simulate that, perhaps it helps get you some ideas
[02:15] <ehird> and what service bot
[02:15] <Sentinel> ah
[02:16] <Sentinel> e.g. chanserv
[02:16] <ehird> finalbeta_: um, that would install gnome, and i'm using x-window-system-core, not xserver-xorg :/
[02:16] <wolfgang> hi
 yes i know, but xfce is too minimalistic... i think gnome is just between kde and xfce
[02:17] <boink> gnome is somewhat bloaty
[02:17] <boink> it's more like kde
[02:17] <wolfgang> can someone tell me how the command to ubdate ubuntu 5.10 to the new 6.10
[02:17] <boink> you can't upgrade from 5.10 to 6.10
[02:17] <Bokeh> recommended action is to reinstall
[02:17] <boink> you need to upgrade to 6.06 first
[02:17] <Sentinel> omg
[02:17] <Tim90>  Some one with gnome please go to system>adminstration>services>and then go to the CPU frequency manager,right click then properties. tell me what the settings are
[02:17] <Sephnroth> brb 2 sec, phone - Bokeh: room is moving so fast that if you have any advice on this svn buisness you had best pm it to me incase i miss it ^^;;  if ya dont have any input on it though then np, thanks all the same :)
[02:17] <Sephnroth> brb
[02:18] <rausb0> Sentinel: xfce too minimalistic? well, try fluxbox or evilwm :)
[02:18] <finalbeta_> wolfgang, you might wanna reinstall, many end up with criplled systems, will save you hours of work.
[02:18] <Bokeh> Sephnroth: did you try checking the permissions? that's the only thing i can think of right now
[02:18] <wolfgang> i tried to install the complete 6.10 but there was a error "can't access to tty"
[02:18] <ehird> just `sudo apt-get install --purge --reinstall x-window-system-core kdm kde-core`, gonna restart
[02:18] <boink> that's what I said, updating from 5.10 to 6.10 doesn't work
 I already got 70% of ubuntu... i'm not switchung to xubuntu anymore
[02:19] <wolfgang> that's great ^^
[02:19] <boink> update to 6.06 first, then update to 6.10
[02:19] <wolfgang> so i have to download the whole 6.06 iso...
[02:19] <wolfgang> ok thx
[02:19] <boink> or you do the upgrade through the internet
[02:20] <thandavarayan> wolfgang: if planned to upgrade, no need to download whole CD
[02:20] <Drac|School> scheuri: The proble lies in "hda2" rather than the other. It doesn't see or ount windows in hda1, so there is no hda2"
[02:20] <boink> !upgrade
[02:20] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[02:20] <wolfgang> how is the command therefor
[02:20] <finalbeta_> Really can't recommend updating to edgy tho. It even got slashdotted for bad results.
[02:20] <boink> !tell about wolfgang about upgrade
[02:20] <Sephnroth> permissions on the svn directory?  what should they be? the guide just had me mkdir it then svnadmin create and chown -R www-data:www-data
[02:21] <Drac|School> scheuri: Wrong again. :(
[02:21] <Bokeh> chmod 770 that directory Sephnroth
[02:21] <adamk> So can someone tell mp3 how to get mp3 support back in Amarok?  After upgrading from dagger to edgy, it won't work, even after making sure I have the libxine-extracodecs package installed.
[02:21] <Sephnroth> ok, sec
[02:21] <Bokeh> or 775, whichever you prefer :)
[02:21] <Drac|School> scheuri: It appears to be realtive to the /dev/hda2 thing...
[02:21] <rhican> hey, if i have a dapper drake ubuntu installation is it worth ""upgrading"" to edgy?  is firefox2 in apt (or whatever it got renamed as)
[02:22] <thandavarayan> rhican: If everything going alright with dapper,,,I can say better to stick with that.
[02:22] <thandavarayan> rhican: mozilla-firefox is still there.
[02:22] <rausb0> Sentinel: you dont need a different iso image to try xfce. you can install it additionally after installing the cd.
[02:22] <dv_> unless you need many versions of packages available in edgy
[02:22] <dv_> but not in dapper
[02:23] <rhican> thandavarayan, yeah but it isn't version 2 yet?
[02:23] <dv_> for example, I need cmake 2.4
[02:23] <Drac|School> scheuri: "Cannot open root device "hda2" or unknown-block(0,0)
[02:23] <Drac|School> Yeah. it's looking at 0,0 instead of 0,1
[02:23] <scheuri> Drac|School: hmmm....
[02:23] <Mihai_> how do  i downgrade from edgy to dapper?
[02:23] <scheuri> Mihai_: I dont think that is possible
[02:23] <dv_> hm btw anyone knows if edgy supports sata hotplugging
[02:24] <ehird> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
[02:24] <Drac|School> All examples show that it is formated (hd*,*)
[02:24] <ehird> it still does the terminal thing
[02:24] <thandavarayan> rhican: That is not a big point to bother...any security issues with 1.5 are treated safely too... :-)
[02:24] <Bokeh> depends on your drivers dv
[02:24] <scheuri> ehird: welcome to the channel
[02:24] <dv_> Bokeh, doesnt it depend on the kernel?
[02:24] <dv_> I have an intel chipset
[02:24] <Bokeh> yeah, kernel as well
[02:24] <Sentinel> got 2 go
[02:24] <Sentinel> cya
[02:24] <rhican> thandavarayan, would edgy have the newer ff?
[02:24] <dv_> intel 875p
[02:24] <Bokeh> but i don't think much has changed between dapper and edgy as far as libata support is concerned
[02:24] <ehird> it logs in fine but then just pops up the terminal window!
[02:24] <ehird> wtf!
[02:25] <thandavarayan> rhican: edgy got 2.0
[02:25] <wolfgang> why isn't it possible to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.10 when i have the complete cd???
[02:25] <wolfgang> that suxx
[02:25] <dv_> because I have an external sata drive
[02:25] <scheuri> wolfgang: because it is step by step...
[02:25] <dv_> and it sucks to have to reboot just for accessing the drive
[02:25] <Drac|School> scheuri: Yeah. Grub isn't seeing the root line properly. What can I do? It's formatted correctly...
[02:25] <thandavarayan> wolfgang: carefull, do step by step...
[02:26] <berntbert> Can anyone point me to how I can solve this problem: When I switch user on my HP/Compaq nc6000 laptop (it has an ATI video card), _sometimes_ (not every time) the display is messed up. Looks like something is wrong with the resolution/sync whatever...
[02:26] <wolfgang> why is the image than 600mb
[02:26] <Drac|School> Damnit. Time to go...
[02:26] <scheuri> Drac|School: hmm...any character which may cause the line not beeing read properly?
[02:26] <thandavarayan> wolfgang: image of what....
[02:26] <scheuri> Drac|School: sorry...
[02:26] <berntbert> Using Edgy, by the way.
[02:26] <wolfgang> the image of 6.10
[02:26] <Tim90> powernowd etc.) slows down the processor, for exemple at the end of an heavy task.   High-pitched crackling noise.  i think this might be it
[02:26] <Drac|School> scheuri: It is this exactly: "root  (hd0,1)"  It may be the two spaces...
[02:26] <Drac|School> Nope..
[02:26] <scheuri> Drac|School: aye...it may...
[02:26] <scheuri> not?
[02:26] <Drac|School> it's not.
[02:26] <DtTvB> Hello there, I am trying to install Xgl. When I typed this command into the terminal for testing: "Xgl :1 -fullscreen -ac -accel xv:pbuffer -accel glx:pbuffer &", it said "X Error : BadLength (poly request too large or Internal Xlib lengh Error )16"
[02:27] <DtTvB> What should I do?
[02:27] <scheuri> never wrote it with spaces
[02:27] <wolfgang> thandavarayan: i have to download 2 times a 500mb large file to have 6.10
[02:27] <ehird> ahahahahahahahaha
[02:27] <Tim90> scheuri:wht were your setting
[02:27] <theplatypus> wolfgang: you might be happier sticking with 6.06
[02:27] <ehird> i'm really stupid
[02:27] <Drac|School> scheuri: It has to have at least one space.
[02:27] <ehird> i had session type set to failsafe from when i was trying to fix it :)
[02:27] <Drac|School> ehird: That's how it usually ends up turning out.
[02:27] <scheuri> Tim90: with powernowd? never did set it...took default on my laptop
[02:27] <ehird> silly me, it works fine now
[02:27] <wolfgang> theplatypus: why?
[02:27] <thandavarayan> wolfgang: You dont need to download, you can point the repos step by step and update desktop by apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:27] <ehird> I just have to resize my reiserfs partition now! >:E
[02:28] <Drac|School> scheuri: Maybe GRUB didn't install properly and I need to reinstall. :\
[02:28] <wolfgang> thandavarayan: yes but i have a downloadlimit and have already downloaded 6.10
[02:28] <scheuri> Drac|School: you can reinstall grub by "grub-install hdX"
[02:28] <theplatypus> wolfgang : a bit more stable
[02:28] <sting> ati ragemobility m1 
[02:28] <rhican> one last question how much bandwidth should an upgrade from dapper to edgy take ?
[02:28] <scheuri> Drac|School: there is no need to reinstall entirely just for that
[02:28] <scheuri> rhican: depends...300 to 500
[02:29] <wolfgang> theplatypus: 6.06 is more stable that 6.10?
[02:29] <rambo3> Drac|School, did you edit menu.lst buy hand
[02:29] <Drac|School> rambo3: I'm editing from within the grub list. It looks perfect.
[02:29] <thandavarayan> wolfgang: what ever, better is step by step. And also 6.06 has got few more updates then 6.10 hence more stable
[02:29] <theplatypus> wolfgang : wolfgang : yes, dapper is very nice
[02:29] <theplatypus> wolfgang : wolfgang : Edgy is pretty much an rc
[02:30] <Sephnroth> Bokeh: i chmod 775 it and then try to import files to it using my svn client on my windows machine and i still get the error: "Can't create director '/var/local/svn/testrepo/db/transactions/0-1.txn': Permission denied
[02:30] <sting> is some one use ATI ragemobility -m1 ???
[02:30] <Sephnroth> :/
[02:30] <Drac|School> rambo3: The problem is that though it says "root (hd0,1)" grub insists on looking at (hd0,0)
[02:30] <rambo3> Drac|School, see that  kopt lines are commented out in menu.lst
[02:30] <rambo3> and groot
[02:30] <Drac|School> rambo3: I've never booted the system before and don't have a way into it until I boot with a live CD later today. I'll look for that, though.
[02:31] <St_MPA3b> full screen task manager for KDE
[02:31] <St_MPA3b> Kompose offers a great new way to manage a big number of windows on
[02:31] <St_MPA3b> different Virtual Desktops. It creates a fullscreen view where every
[02:31] <St_MPA3b> window is represented by a scaled screenshot of its own.
[02:31] <St_MPA3b> is there analog 4 gnome?
[02:31] <rambo3> Drac|School, ok and google groot
[02:31] <kaur> my laptop is unable to resume from suspend (cursor and a blank screen which seems to be switching between some kind video modes) Ideas
[02:31] <kaur> ?
[02:31] <mark_> hi is this support?
[02:31] <kaur> mark_: almost
[02:32] <scheuri> mark_: aye, we charge 50  per ord
[02:32] <mark_> lol
[02:32] <scheuri> word
[02:32] <jrib> !info skippy
[02:32] <ubotu> skippy: full-screen X11 task/window switcher, similar to OSX Expose. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1rc1-5 (edgy), package size 28 kB, installed size 148 kB
[02:32] <ehird> mark_: it used to be
[02:32] <ehird> now it's an offtopic channel. or so it seems
[02:32] <ehird> :D
[02:32] <mark_> oh
[02:32] <jrib> St_MPA3b: skippy works "ok"
[02:32] <ehird> no, i was joking
[02:32] <boink> it can be on topic again
[02:32] <scheuri> mark_: do not listen to him
[02:32] <mark_> ok well i'll do my best to get things back on topic
[02:33] <mark_> i'm just having a small problem with partitioning
[02:33] <Sephnroth> im well impressed with the activity in here - most of the support channels i goto these days are full of tons of people... and  about one line of text every 15 minutes >>;
[02:33] <Sephnroth> im sure there is a great bot conspiracy
[02:33] <kaur> does anyone have a clue how resuming from suspend should work? I'm having problems...
[02:33] <dv_> he figured it out!!
[02:33] <scheuri> Sephnroth: asl? ;)
[02:33] <wsjunior> where can i find which are the patchs applied to the ubuntu kernel
[02:33] <mark_> actually lemme try run it again and i'll tell you exactly what happens
[02:34] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: you mean, that you like to find the applied patch or...
[02:34] <scheuri> thandavarayan: I guess he wants to know which patches have been applied
 ty
[02:35] <thandavarayan> scheuri: ofcourse....
[02:35] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: i need to know if this patch is applied by default or if i do need to recompile my kernel -> http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/sco-mtu.patch
[02:35] <fire_> can anyone help with vmware problem?
[02:35] <scheuri> fire_: I will try
[02:35] <theplatypus> Sephnroth : YOu should have tried getting support here this weekewnd. There were so many people the text was moving too fast to read
[02:35] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: if you want to play a bit, you can use diff tools to do that...
[02:35] <mark_> ok
[02:35] <ndlovu> how processor / memory intensive is skippy to run?
[02:35] <mark_> here's the problem
[02:35] <rdltech> Hi !
[02:35] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: try to find the difference before and after applying the patch
[02:35] <fire_> scheuri cheers , edgy6.1 all vmware services seem to be running but server-console will not start
[02:36] <rdltech> is there something better than Gaim ?
[02:36] <mark_> im installing ubuntu 5:10 onto a 60gb extrnal hd
[02:36] <fire_> not sure where to look to start debugging
[02:36] <mark_> and I have a 50 gig partition and have left the rest as free space for linux
[02:36] <scheuri> fire_: fresh edgy install? have you installed anything new recently for or from vmware?
[02:36] <faux> crap, #67487 really sucks
[02:36] <theplatypus> fire_ : Are you starting it from a term?
[02:36] <wsjunior> rdltech: mercury
[02:36] <rdltech> wsjunior: thanks for the hint ill check that now
[02:36] <theplatypus> fire_ : If not, do so and look for errors
[02:36] <infidel> !aiglx
[02:36] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[02:37] <mark_> so with the partition manager i just select use largest continuous space
[02:37] <fire_> brand new install, yes tried from terminal as root and normal user
[02:37] <LiraNuna> hello
[02:37] <mark_> and all goes well till this pops up
[02:37] <LiraNuna> liranuna@liranuna-desktop:~$ sensible-browser
[02:37] <LiraNuna> run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute /opt/firefox/x-www-browser-bin.
[02:37] <LiraNuna> anyone knows what's wrong?
[02:37] <mark_> The ext3 file system creation in partition #2 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sdc) failed.
[02:37] <scheuri> fire_: vmware server is running? mui as well?
[02:37] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: how could i know without have to apply the patch?
[02:37] <mark_> I don't think it works manualy either but that might have been me
[02:37] <fire_> vmware server is running and the mui confirms this
[02:38] <fire_> just the server-console seems to be bugging out
[02:38] <scheuri> fire_: that is odd...really....tried to uninstall and reinstall the client?
[02:38] <theplatypus> fire_: I installed vmware server yesterday following the how to and it worked flawlessly. Have you tried that?
[02:38] <fire_> yes , also linked a couple of libs as recommended elsewhere
[02:38] <scheuri> theplatypus: its actually the client which causes the troubles
[02:39] <fire_> I have installed vmware on my laptop with no issues at all
[02:39] <scheuri> fire_: sorry...must admit I never had troubles...well, I am on 6.06 ...but
[02:39] <fire_> this is my new desktop
[02:39] <fire_> yeah the laptop is 6.06 as well
[02:39] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: buddy you must be bit more clear....you know the you like to know where the patch goes to original file or...
[02:39] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: i dunno the ubuntu way to recompile the kernel.. i used to just apply the patchs and recompile it byt running make && make bzImage && make modules_install
[02:40] <mark_> ok short version to save you all that reading: When i try to partition my hd automatically I get this error: The ext3 file system creation in partition #2 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sdc) failed.
[02:40] <WooD> a
[02:40] <fire_> I guess its just gonna be a daft permissions error but I cant find any log files to help me in the search
[02:40] <Bokeh> ok, back
[02:40] <Bokeh> Sephnroth: did you manage to solve your problem yet?
[02:40] <Bokeh> i had a nagging user :)
[02:40] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: that is one way...other way is to use make-kpkg -..........
[02:40] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: i just wanna know if this patch is already applied or not..
[02:41] <scheuri> wsjunior: google was not of help?
[02:41] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: if you re apply the same patch tool will compline something like...nothing to apply..
[02:41] <mark_> maybe i'll come back in a few mins
[02:42] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: /net/bluetooth/hci_event.c
[02:42] <DtTvB> Hello, I am installed the Xgl package, then I typed this command into the terminal for testing: "Xgl :1 -fullscreen -ac -accel xv:pbuffer -accel glx:pbuffer &", it said "X Error : BadLength (poly request too large or Internal Xlib lengh Error )16"... What should I do next?
[02:42] <Admiral_Chicago> DtTvB: try #ubuntu-xfl
[02:42] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: you must look man pages of patch tool, I think it is possible to find a file and make a difference...
[02:42] <Admiral_Chicago> *xgl
[02:42] <DtTvB> OK.
[02:42] <DtTvB> Thanks.
[02:43] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: now it is very simple to compare hci_event.c with the patch you have.
[02:43] <fire_> hmmm running /etc/init.d/vmware start says ... Virtual Machine monitor failed
[02:44] <fire_> first actual error I have seen yet :)
[02:44] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: how?
[02:44] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: there is a tool called meld
[02:44] <scheuri> wsjunior: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78
[02:44] <kaur> unable to resume from suspend. Black screen with cursor.... Ideas?
[02:44] <scheuri> wsjunior: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78
[02:44] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: or kdiff
[02:45] <Bokeh> dapper or edgy, kaur?
[02:45] <kaur> Bokeh: edgy
[02:45] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: if you want to play with gui, other wise diff on command line.
[02:46] <Bokeh> ok
[02:46] <kaur> Bokeh: the screen seems to be switching between somekind of modes... (blinks sometimes)
[02:46] <kaur> Bokeh: and...
[02:46] <Bokeh> had the same problem in dapper, looked like a problem with my videocard not coming out of suspend properly
[02:46] <Bokeh> i think i solved it by setting something in the bios about sending a S3 signal to the videocard on resume
[02:46] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: i cant find the default hci_event.c...
[02:46] <marian> aww. i finally fixed ubuntu. it's so cute :P
[02:46] <Bokeh> you might want to search your bios for something like that
[02:46] <kaur> Bokeh: when i installed powersaved, then everythinh worked for a while
[02:46] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: to make the diff
[02:46] <Bokeh> ubuntu's not cute
[02:47] <kaur> Bokeh: then i closed the lid...
[02:47] <marian> why not? :P
[02:47] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: which tool you are using now.
[02:47] <Bokeh> it stole my girlfrield, ate my fridge, threw out the television and angered the neighbours
[02:47] <WooD> wsjunior: I have installed the Mercury version 1.8.deb and when I clic on the icon to start it it doesn't want to load
[02:47] <marian> :D
[02:47] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: is it possible to send the *.c file and patch to me...or
[02:47] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: gonna use diff but i need to files
[02:47] <kaur> Bokeh: and after that everything broke
[02:47] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: two* i just have the patch
[02:47] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: yes you need two files to make the difference...
[02:48] <marian> maybe ubuntu has a thing with you
[02:48] <marian> smthn special
[02:48] <kaur> Bokeh: I installed powernowd back. Now it's not working
[02:48] <Bokeh> hmmmm
[02:48] <kaur> Bokeh: but it once did
[02:48] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: so where can i find the other one.. the orginial hci_event.c to make the diff with the patch?
[02:48] <Bokeh> well, i might seen like a jackass, but my suggestion is to install powersaved again :)
[02:48] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: that is part of the kernel I think,
[02:48] <Scognito> hi
[02:48] <Bokeh> power saving is still a bitch with linux, no matter what distro you use, there's no easy answer for it
[02:49] <kaur> Bokeh: I'll try
[02:49] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: normally under /usr/src/.... if you downloaded the source package of linux kernel.
[02:49] <Bokeh> and try tailing your syslog after such a crash
[02:49] <Bokeh> and dmesg if you can still get in through ssh if possible
[02:49] <Scognito> what is the latest version of nvidia-kernel-common and nvidia-glx ?
[02:49] <Scognito> i'm using edgy but i think i screwed my source.list
[02:49] <kaur> Bokeh: how can i watch syslog?
[02:50] <Bokeh> tail -n 20 -f /var/log/syslog
[02:51] <Bokeh> kern.log might be a good source for logs as well in your case
[02:51] <Bokeh> and daemon.log :)
[02:51] <Bokeh> oh, and messages :P
[02:51] <lary1234> hi, how do i install version 3.2 of build essentials ? thanks
[02:51] <lary1234> ...or just any GCC version which is not 4.x ?
[02:51] <kaur> Bokeh: too much information...
[02:51] <compudaze> which version do you want?
[02:51] <kaur> Bokeh: ok i start with reinstalling
[02:51] <lary1234> 3.2
[02:52] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: patching file net/bluetooth/hci_event.c
[02:52] <wsjunior> Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] 
[02:52] <lary1234> i have a compilation problems with my C++ project
[02:52] <patrick_king> how do i make sure my sata drive is mounted in edgy
[02:52] <WooD> any of you know if there is something new about Microsoft Outlook onto Ubuntu ?
[02:52] <Bokeh> ehm
[02:52] <Bokeh> outlook on ubuntu?
[02:52] <Bokeh> you mean crossover?
[02:52] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: Its already patched
[02:52] <compudaze> u can do 3.3
[02:53] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: now i see
[02:53] <lary1234> 3.3 would be fine
[02:53] <compudaze> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.3
[02:53] <lary1234> thanks
[02:53] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: no need to reverse, if you are sure what you want.
[02:53] <phanter> hello all. I am trying to get a bluetooth connection established, but how do I see if ubuntu recognises my BT device (it is one with a usb connection)
[02:53] <mark_> right im back
[02:53] <mark_> anyone want to help me with this partitioning problem?
[02:53] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: yes, simple but powerful. LINUX
[02:54] <Scognito> what is the fastest way to use aiglx with nvidia cards?
[02:54] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: but whe i try to connect my bluetooth headset i get this: Error: Failed to connect to SDP server: Invalid exchange
[02:54] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: how to fix it?
[02:54] <cat> hi there
[02:54] <cat> i've a question
[02:54] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Invalid exchange
[02:54] <cat> how can i install kernal binary ?
[02:54] <Bokeh> mark_: don't ask to ask, just ask
[02:54] <patrick_king> !mp3
[02:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:54] <meatballs> hi
[02:54] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: Dont know. Better is to write to Linux Kernel Mailing List.
[02:54] <tomc1> hi there - is there a way to print one photo devided on many pages, so that it's a big poster consiting of many pages?
[02:55] <cat> i installed 6.10 from cdrom , now i wanna install nvidia drivers, but cant because of missing kernel source..
[02:55] <mark_> bokeh does that mean you'll give it a shot lol?
[02:55] <Bokeh> yeah, just ask your question ;)
[02:55] <cat> and couldnt find it in add-remove..
[02:55] <scheuri> cat: the source are called headers...
[02:55] <mark_> right
[02:55] <patrick_king> do the restricted formats work on edgy
[02:55] <mark_> ok short version: When i try to partition my hd automatically I get this error: The ext3 file system creation in partition #2 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sdc) failed.
[02:55] <scheuri> cat:  I least I guess...so you need to install the appropriate headers for your kernel
[02:55] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: what do i need to install to use make menuconfig?
[02:55] <meatballs> what could be the reason why mounting smb from fstab suddenly fails? it worked yesterday, the only difference ist that i installed samba on my machine
[02:55] <thandavarayan> cat: Did you point repos in /etc/apt/source.list properly or..
[02:56] <MenZa> tunicwriter!
[02:56] <Bokeh> mark_: edgy or dapper?
[02:56] <cat> thandavarayan: nope..
[02:56] <mark_> edgy sorry
[02:56] <Bokeh> ok
[02:56] <kaur> Bokeh: ok, i'll try to suspend now. When it doesn't resume after that, i'm forced to shut down the system. After that i should check the logs probably?
[02:56] <Bokeh> that's the livecd installation?
[02:56] <Bokeh> yeah
[02:56] <Acke_ubu> !help
[02:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:56] <mark_> yeah i thinkso
[02:56] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: I am not sure which drivers does your bluetooth stuff uses...
[02:56] <Acke_ubu> !ntfs
[02:56] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:56] <cat> thandavarayan: how i do that mate ?
[02:56] <Sephnroth> bokeh - not yet, i just made a cup of tea and am about to tackle it again
[02:56] <Sephnroth> i cant get rid of the error msg, chmodding doesnt solve it
[02:56] <patrick_king> !sata
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <thandavarayan> cat:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list
[02:56] <Sephnroth> "Can't create director '/var/local/svn/testrepo/db/transactions/0-1.txn': Permission denied
[02:56] <Sephnroth> *directory
[02:57] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: i need to use menuconfig
[02:57] <Bokeh> did you chown and chmod ALL the directories it was complaining about Sephnroth?
[02:57] <Bokeh> or try to su - www-data
[02:57] <thandavarayan> cat: you need to uncomment the repos pointing to universe and multiverse and so on...
[02:57] <Sephnroth> oh wait, i can recursivly chmod cant i, duh me!
[02:57] <Sephnroth> let me try that
[02:57] <Bokeh> and see which directory you can't access, going up one at a time
[02:57] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: menuconfig is used to configure the kernel according to your requirements....
[02:57] <Bokeh> mark_: try pressing ctrl-alt-f* till you get to a logging terminal
[02:58] <Bokeh> can't remember which one it is exactly during the installation
[02:58] <mark_> ok
[02:58] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: Did you check in internet, that your device has any working history under linux or..
[02:58] <Mon> i have a upgrade-to-edgy problem. probably because the upgrade was interupted. biggest problem seems to be: "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state, you should reinstall it before attempting a removal". but using -f with apt-get doesn't work
[02:58] <mark_> ctrl alt and f when
[02:58] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: it worked here before with gentoo
[02:58] <Sephnroth> bokeh, i just did "sudo chmod -R 775 ./dgdk-extras" - chmod returned no errors, tried to import - same error
[02:58] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: i need to enter in menuconfig to enable some things
[02:58] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: but sudo make menuconfig is not working
[02:58] <mark_> just througout the installation?
[02:59] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: make sure that bluetooth stuff in kernel are enabled.
[02:59] <Bokeh> Sephnroth: try chmod -R 755 /var/local/svn/testrepo/db/transactions
[02:59] <Bokeh> then chown -R www-data /var/local/svn/
[02:59] <cat> thandavarayan: i think it works. thank you
[02:59] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: Are you at the top level of kernel dir like /usr/src/linux.xxx
[02:59] <hrach> does anybody knows how to get dbase support tu php in dapper? thanks
[02:59] <thandavarayan> cat: :-)
[03:00] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: yes i am
[03:00] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: then sudo su
[03:00] <cat> thandavarayan: btw, do u know how can i open ubuntu in console mode ? cause i need to close X to insall nvidia
[03:00] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: just need to install dialog
[03:00] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: i need to enable rfcom ther
[03:00] <thandavarayan> wsjunior:  one moment.
[03:00] <meatballs> what could be the reason why mounting smb from fstab suddenly fails? it worked yesterday, the only difference ist that i installed samba on my machine... all applications accessing the mount path crash and according to mtab, the smb shares are not mounted...
[03:00] <Sephnroth> done and same error bokeh - -R should of recusivly done all the directories anyway so it was already set :/  but specifying the directory directly has not helped
[03:01] <thandavarayan> cat: you can kill the x-server by alt+ctrl+backspace and alt+ctrl+f1
[03:01] <thandavarayan> to get console
[03:01] <Bokeh> ok, weird
[03:01] <Bokeh> try to recreate all steps the installer does
[03:01] <hrach> does anybody knows how to get dbase support tu php in dapper? thanks
[03:01] <zahira> hay
[03:01] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: you need to install ncurses development package
[03:01] <Bokeh> so first of all, become root in a shell
[03:01] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: thats it
[03:01] <Bokeh> then su - www-data
[03:01] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: lets see
[03:01] <zahira> wath
[03:01] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: then make menuconfig
[03:01] <ripp3r> what can be used to handle .daa files on ubuntu?
[03:01] <cat> thandavarayan: i do that, but it opens X again...
[03:02] <Bokeh> then cd /var; cd local; cd svn; cd testrepo; cd db; cd transactions;
[03:02] <Bokeh> etc. etc.
[03:02] <zahira> hay
[03:02] <Bokeh> till you find the place where there's a permission problem
[03:02] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: when it was working in gentoo when to move to another dist.
[03:02] <mark_> bokeh: sorry, im not sure where to hit ctrl alt f. I tried each of the installation screens
[03:02] <thandavarayan> cat: bang on cltr+alt+f1 for some more times...
[03:02] <meatballs> i can't even delete the mount points
[03:02] <zahira> ok
[03:03] <phanter> how can I get my usb-bleutooth device working? Do I need somekind of program for it?
[03:03] <Bokeh> i don't have a livecd here, didn't bother with edgy yet
[03:03] <Bokeh> but it should be possible after you get the partition problem
[03:03] <Bokeh> it's ctrl-alt-f<number>
[03:03] <Sephnroth> bokeh i have cd my way right into transactions
[03:03] <Bokeh> ok
[03:03] <mark_> yeah i just spotted that further up and guessed
[03:04] <Bokeh> now try touch 0-1.txn
[03:04] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: brb after smoking break.
[03:04] <Bokeh> you are working under the www-data account, seph?
[03:04] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: Error: Failed to connect to SDP server: Invalid exchange
[03:04] <Sephnroth> permission denied - do you think this could be because of the chown -R www-data:www-data or something?
[03:04] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Invalid exchange
[03:05] <Bokeh> there's your problem :)
[03:05] <ripp3r> is there anything like alcohol 120% for ubuntu?
[03:05] <Bokeh> shouldn't be a problem
[03:05] <wsjunior> ripp3r: gnomebaker?
[03:05] <mark_> bokeh: am i looking for a unix type command filling up the whole screen
[03:05] <Bokeh> yeah
[03:05] <mark_> ok
[03:05] <ripp3r> wsjunior i need to mount a .daa file
[03:05] <Sephnroth> im logged in as my local account, Sephnroth - im a bit new so if im supposed to be logged in as something else then i wasnt aware of it
[03:05] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: Did you reinstall the kernel already or...
[03:05] <wsjunior> ripp3r: u can convert it to an iso image
[03:05] <Sephnroth> but i dont see how apache2 or svn can be logged in as someone else themselfs, they are just services?
[03:05] <Sephnroth> well, not services
[03:06] <Sephnroth> i run apache manually with /etc/init.d/
[03:06] <Bokeh> Sephnroth: do an ls -al ../ | grep transactions
[03:06] <ripp3r> wsjunior how?
[03:06] <Bokeh> and post the results here
[03:06] <mark_> lol what do i do when I get that fat?
[03:06] <mark_> far*
[03:06] <Bokeh> Sephnroth: you should be logged in as www-data
[03:06] <knut_> !ntfs
[03:06] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:06] <infidel> !aiglx
[03:06] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[03:07] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: gonna reboot brb
[03:07] <Bokeh> to make sure that you have exqactly the same right as the apache daemon
[03:07] <mark_> me?
[03:07] <Sephnroth> it returned nothing, just blankness - just to be sure i got it right the exact line i typed was:
[03:07] <Sephnroth> sephnroth@LinuxServer:/var/local/svn/dgdk-extras/db/transactions$ ls -al ./ | grep transactions
[03:07] <lary1234> in /usr/bin i have a link lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2006-10-30 12:12 gcc -> gcc-4.1
[03:07] <lary1234> how do i change it to point to gcc-.3.3 ? what is the format of ln command in this case ?
[03:07] <lary1234> thanks
[03:07] <Bokeh> ../ not ./
[03:08] <Sephnroth> ohh XD  sorry the monitor on this machine isnt so great
[03:08] <christianp> can anyone help me in understanding this problem: i'm trying to configure a network printer (Infotec ISC 824 PS) with ubuntu dapper. The printer seems to be installed correctly, but when i try to print a page (the default page) it prints a lot of pages with strange character.
[03:08] <robust> does anyone know howto release the ip in ubuntu? i used dhcpd -k in gentoo at least :/
[03:08] <Sephnroth> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2006-10-30 13:31 transactions
[03:08] <nkassi> larry1234;ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.3 /usr/bin/gcc
[03:08] <Sephnroth> is the output
[03:08] <Bokeh> mark_: check if it gives any error messages about the partitioning
[03:08] <lary1234> thanks, nkassi
[03:08] <Bokeh> switch to there just after you got the error message
[03:08] <mark_> how do i do that?
[03:09] <mark_> ok
[03:09] <mark_> gotcha
[03:09] <tbertz> trying install plugin for eclipse have but it needs sudo permissions to be able to do that any ideas on how to get round the problem?
[03:09] <tbertz> using update site
[03:09] <Bokeh> there's your problem seph
[03:09] <christianp> I suppose it's a driver problem, so i search for different drives and i find the PPD certified with mandriva, but i obtain the same behavior.
[03:09] <Bokeh> the permissions aren't set properly on the transactions directory
[03:09] <christianp> what can be the problem?
[03:09] <Bokeh> the owner and group are root, while they should be www-data
[03:09] <WooD> I have a weird problem .. VMWARE Server Concole does not work anymore. It was working very well last Friday and now this morning It doesn't start
[03:09] <tbertz> Bokeh: is that directed at me?
[03:10] <Bokeh> do a sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/local/svn/dgdk-extras/
[03:10] <Bokeh> no, Sephnroth, not tbertz :)
[03:10] <nkassi> WooD: did you have a kernel update ?
[03:10] <Decadent> which is faster and better for nvidia xgl or aixgl??
[03:10] <tbertz> arse
[03:10] <Bokeh> ehm
[03:10] <Bokeh> dude?
[03:10] <Sephnroth> hmm, but i DID chown it, but i followed the guid eexactally and it had me chown it after mkdir on it at which poitn it was empty, so i guess SOMETHING made the directories inside it automatically afterwards and got it wrong... worrying
[03:10] <Bokeh> odd
[03:11] <Bokeh> back on my previous job i remember having written a wrapper to create svn repo's
[03:11] <Bokeh> just to prevent this kind of shite
[03:11] <knut_> !eclipse
[03:11] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[03:11] <mark_> bokeh: if nothing comes up is that bad?
[03:12] <Sephnroth> well after this i have all the fun of figuring out how to setup a second repository with a different password/username that i can use privatly (this one is public) - web_dav seems pretty... rigid, has one config file and one password file etc im not sure how to make it reconise another :/
[03:12] <Sephnroth> but one thing at a time is my phillosphy today
[03:12] <mark_> i hit f1 - f7
[03:12] <Bokeh> hmmmmm
[03:12] <Sephnroth> lets test this chown
[03:12] <iwkse> 412kb???
[03:12] <Bokeh> that is weird
[03:12] <tbertz> knut!: what oof it>
[03:12] <mark_> f7 brings me back to the desktop
[03:12] <Bokeh> well, the problem is, i could probably fix it in a second if i was behind your computer, but i can't, so that makes it kinda hard
[03:12] <mark_> it looks like f1-f6 bring up instances of that terminal type thing
[03:12] <Bokeh> i'd recommend doing a manual partition
[03:13] <Sephnroth> hooray it worked!
[03:13] <mark_> tried that
[03:13] <Sephnroth> thanks borkeh xD
[03:13] <hypno> anyone got any idea why my network interface is only visible as eth1 when dmesg says the driver is being loaded as eth0 ?
[03:13] <mark_> but
[03:13] <knut_> tbertz: installed with synaptic. but dont know how to install it?! is bootstrap ecj = eclipse or do i need to install manually?
[03:13] <mark_> ill try again
[03:13] <Bokeh> which also gives you the joy of using reiserfs (which i would seriously recommend over ext3 as well :)
[03:13] <mark_> sure
[03:13] <Bokeh> hypno: /etc/iftab
[03:13] <Sephnroth> i at least have one repo working now, thankyou
[03:13] <Bokeh> most likely
[03:13] <Bokeh> np
[03:13] <splinux> Hello
[03:13] <hypno> Bokeh, thanks!
[03:14] <nkassi> hypno: Is that what you get from ifconfig ?
[03:14] <WooD> Any of you know why VMWARE does not work anymore in Edgy 6.1 ?
[03:14] <Mon> this mean anything to anyone?:
[03:14] <Mon> dpkg: error processing nautilus (--remove): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[03:14] <Mon> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'
[03:14] <Mon> what(): basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid
[03:14] <Mon> Aborted
[03:14] <nkassi> WooD: Did you do a kernel upgrade ?
[03:14] <Bokeh> honestly, /etc/iftab is a horrible mutation that should never have been born
[03:14] <thandavarayan> WooD: what was the problem with Vmware...
[03:15] <mark_> bokeh: just in the partition manager now, there's an range triangle warning beside the ext2 main partition
[03:15] <Bokeh> hmmmm
[03:15] <giovanni> hello
[03:15] <mark_> and a lock beside the extended one
[03:15] <Bokeh> odd
[03:15] <nkassi> WooD: I would guess you need to run the vmware-config.pl
[03:15] <thandavarayan> WooD: You did not get the graphical stuff or..
[03:15] <mark_> ohh
[03:15] <Bokeh> can you clean the whole disk and start partitioning again?
[03:15] <WooD> thandavarayan: no i dont get it
[03:15] <WooD> nkassi: i did again
[03:15] <mark_> this may be irrelevant but i was having file permission problems in wondowss
[03:15] <mark_> i can do that
[03:16] <thandavarayan> WooD: you must use vmware as a driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:16] <Bokeh> just clean out the whole disk, then start partitioning again
[03:16] <nkassi> WooD: I had to complete wipe out the vmware and reinstall the other day.
[03:16] <mark_> sure
[03:16] <WooD> nkassi: ok
[03:16] <nashnash> i installed hp3900-series driver to my hp scanjet 3970 scanner and now its not "device is not available" anymore its "Access to this resouce is denined" .. Picture: http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3449/screenshot3aq0.png , how can i solve it? (i use the Xsane program)
[03:16] <thandavarayan> WooD: to get the display
[03:16] <mpathy> How can I select only specific packages from edgy and stay with the other packages under dapper?
[03:17] <mpathy> APT:Default... doesnt work right
[03:17] <Bokeh> you don't want that, trust me.
[03:17] <mark_> bokeh im having a hard time deleting the extended partition
[03:17] <mpathy> Bokeh: I only need Postfix 2.3 because it is essential for my setup
[03:17] <Bokeh> but if you really want to, you can use pinning :)
[03:17] <Bokeh> !pinning
[03:17] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[03:17] <WooD> thandavarayan: why it as changed ? it was working last frider
[03:18] <WooD> thandavarayan: why it as changed ? it was working last friday
[03:18] <mpathy> yes but I only need one package
[03:18] <Bokeh> mark_: deleted all partitions in the extended one as well?
[03:18] <mark_> yeah
[03:18] <thandavarayan> WooD: what version of Ubuntu you had on last friday.
[03:18] <mpathy> Bokeh: Isnt that more for "all the packages new, only these few not"?
[03:18] <mark_> saved it and came back into pm and still cant get rid of it
[03:18] <WooD> thandavarayan: same
[03:18] <shadowhywind> Hay all having a bit of problem with hibernateing It fails to load my swap when i hibernate. Any ideas
[03:19] <thandavarayan> WooD: dont know, what you have done after that...any update or so or...
[03:20] <WooD> thandavarayan: nothing at all
[03:20] <Tim90> can any one view these with out it reqiring plugins http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2656
[03:20] <Bokeh> mpathy: yeah, but you can use it the other way around as well
[03:21] <thandavarayan> WooD: can you check in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, see whether vmware is under display section as a driver
[03:21] <WooD> thandavarayan: ok ill check
[03:21] <knut_> !java
[03:21] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:21] <Bokeh> or you could download the postfix2.3 package manually, then install it with dpkg
[03:21] <F|RES>  - 
[03:21] <nkassi> stupid courier package. Screw up my whole dist-upgrade.
[03:21] <Bokeh> but i can predict a dependency hell coming up :)
[03:22] <Tim90> what plug in is reqired to view reqiring plugins http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2656
[03:22] <Bokeh> anyways
[03:23] <Bokeh> schmoke break
[03:23] <Bokeh> bbiab
[03:23] <tdn> I have just added a new harddisk to my system. Now it starts up with this error: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/tmp/ubuntu/IMG_6594.jpg (screen shot). The disk that I have installed is new from the factory. No partitions/filesystems. Do you know what causes this error?
[03:23] <mpathy> Bokeh: Hmm it depends only on openssl.. It would be great if there would be a backport somewhere.. I and some other people posted this "bug" but it will that its time till its backported..
[03:24] <Tim90> please help with firefox plugins
[03:24] <fdv> Hi. does anybody know why the domain name isn't set correctly after putting it in /etc/hosts, it shows up in the output from dnsdomainname, but isn't returned correctly from the system call getdomainname(2). Does anybody know why this is?
[03:24] <wsjunior> could anybody help me with this? im trying to configure my bluetooh headset. http://rafb.net/paste/results/WFaSHF20.html
[03:25] <Tim90> can wiat wehn i get my bluetooth head set
[03:25] <knut_> where is sun java5 jre installed?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> fdv: did you reboot?
[03:25] <Tim90> use the search
[03:25] <St_MPA3b> Is there something like that for linux http://images.apple.com/macosx/features/expose/images/indexfeature20050412.jpg? (gnome)
[03:25] <gnomefreak> knut_: for what?
[03:25] <wsjunior> Tim90: ?
[03:25] <fdv> gnomefreak: do you really have to reboot?
[03:25] <fdv> that's fscked
[03:25] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: did you check the modules are loaded or..
[03:25] <Tim90> ws: ?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> fdv: i think so but its been forever since ive done that
[03:26] <knut_> gnomefreak: installed sun-java5-jre with apt-get. i need to tell eclipse where to find the jre
[03:26] <WooD> thandavarayan: i dont see anything relate to vmware in xorg.conf
[03:26] <nkassi> St_MPA3b: Yes, look at compiz
[03:26] <fdv> gnomefreak: it's extremely easy to set the domainname (using the system call setdomainname), there is absolutely no need to boot
[03:26] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: yes, they all are
 compiz is glitching on me =(
[03:26] <gnomefreak> knut_: doesnt eclipse need jdk or sdk :( but try locale java
[03:27] <St_MPA3b> http://den.e-art.ru/ProgShots/bug.jpg
[03:27] <nkassi> St_MPA3b: oh, what sort of glitch ?
[03:27] <Tim90>  wsjunior:are the codes correct
[03:27] <thandavarayan> WooD: check under Driver....
[03:27] <thandavarayan> WooD: must be vmware
[03:27] <Tim90>  wsjunior:excange keys*
[03:27] <hype> hi there
[03:27] <St_MPA3b> nkassi> http://den.e-art.ru/ProgShots/bug.jpg
[03:27] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: http://rafb.net/paste/results/2IWqGv31.html
[03:27] <WooD> thandavarayan: nop therer is nothing about vmware in the file
[03:27] <hype> is there a way to know the revision of a software i've installed using svn?
 it's beryl, I think, same will be on compiz
[03:28] <nashnash> i installed hp3900-series driver to my hp scanjet 3970 scanner and now its not "device is not available" anymore its "Access to this resouce is denined" .. Picture: http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3449/screenshot3aq0.png , how can i solve it? (i use the Xsane program)
[03:28] <hype> ie chack the current svn version i use
[03:28] <thandavarayan> WooD: then you must include vmware under Section "Device"->Driver "vmware"
[03:28] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: it seems that is a lot of people with this problem as well... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52296
[03:28] <nkassi> St_MPA3b: Yikes, never seen that one.
 it's in firefox
[03:29] <nkassi> St_MPA3b: You could always also try compiz, never know
[03:29] <St_MPA3b> =/ ok, i'll try
[03:29] <nkassi> St_MPA3b: Do you have the 3rd mouse button pressed down?
[03:29] <knut_> gnomefreak: thanks
[03:29] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: okay...then you have to try and see by re-compiling kernel....but make sure you select appropriate modules when configuring kernel.
 yup, it's autoscroll feature
[03:30] <Determinist> any idea how i can give a certain daemon (rsync --daemon) a certain user? i wish it to have certain permissions and currently i cant seem to find how that's done.
[03:30] <WooD> thandavarayan:  ouchhhh how i do that ?
[03:30] <St_MPA3b> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=277815
[03:30] <St_MPA3b> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/58622
[03:30] <Schmuk> hi I have some problems setting up a Wlan usb stick
[03:30] <Schmuk> it has a linux driver but nothing seems to be working
[03:30] <St_MPA3b> http://bugs.beryl-project.org/ticket/625 also
[03:31] <Constrictor> anyone know the keyserver url for ubuntu
[03:31] <thandavarayan> WooD: /etc/X11/xorg.conf goto Section "Device"
[03:31] <IndyBC> Why the heck, did they/you change the default shell to dash?
[03:31] <Constrictor> trying to upload my public key with enigmail can't fing the server
[03:31] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: my bluetooth card is a broadcom one
[03:31] <St_MPA3b> Constrictor>use thunderbird :)
[03:31] <livi> 
[03:32] <Schmuk> Can anybody help me out with that? I have used the linux setup guide from the website
[03:32] <Constrictor> i'm using thunderbird but i'm in windows now and i want to use my public key
[03:32] <melon> quick Q - i tried to update lftp with sudo apt-get install lftp - it says that the already the newest version - i'm using 3.4.0 (came with dapper) - the lftp site says that 3.5.6 is the newest version - what am i doing wrong?
[03:32] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: you can build a new kernel...and select those modules...
[03:32] <IndyBC> !dash
[03:32] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[03:33] <Schmuk> its a safecom SWMULZ-5400
[03:33] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: make menuconfig will direct you on selecting...
[03:33] <IndyBC> !why dash
[03:33] <IndyBC> !whydash
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whydash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: are u using a 32bit system? could u please give a aptitude search bluez?
[03:33] <St_MPA3b> !dash
[03:33] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[03:33] <St_MPA3b> !skippy
[03:33] <ubotu> skippy: full-screen X11 task/window switcher, similar to OSX Expose. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1rc1-5 (edgy), package size 28 kB, installed size 148 kB
[03:33] <Constrictor> !keyserver
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keyserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: I run other distro now...
[03:34] <IndyBC> !usb
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <segfault_> melon, sounds lftp released a newer version than that which is available for dapper
[03:34] <livi> 
[03:34] <IndyBC> Any news from usb auto-mounting fix?
[03:34] <IndyBC> (on Edgy)
[03:35] <Sephnroth> Bokeh: would you object to me pming you for a moment?
[03:35] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: it seems i need bluez-firmware
[03:35] <Pawba> <- brave.  Edgy+Ebuntu.  Needless to say, having issues. :P
[03:35] <cheeseruler> whooo hoooo
[03:35] <wsjunior> thandavarayan: but there isnt such package for amd64
[03:35] <cheeseruler> finally got the damn ftp server running
[03:35] <IndyBC> Ebuntu = ?
[03:35] <cheeseruler> took me 2 days .. lmao
[03:35] <IndyBC> !ebuntu
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ebuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <Pawba> Indy: Enlightenment
[03:35] <wsjunior> could anybody here check for me if there is this package for 32bit system?
[03:35] <WooD> thandavarayan:  Ok im in the section device
[03:36] <davidwang> 
[03:36] <livi> i use ubuntu
[03:36] <dao> hi, will the live cd boot, when there is no harddisk (or a broken one)?
[03:36] <IndyBC> Pawba: is it a window manager?
[03:36] <thandavarayan> wsjunior: seems like 3rd party stuff...may be you can find when you give a search in google.
[03:36] <IndyBC> !enlightenment
[03:36] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[03:36] <thandavarayan> WooD: Did you see anything like Driver
[03:36] <Pawba> Indy: Definitely worth looking at.  Google EliveCD
[03:36] <IndyBC> ok
[03:36] <Schmuk> I need some help with installing drivers
[03:36] <WooD> thandavarayan:  yes its written Driver          "nv"
[03:37] <Schmuk> all the guides I have looked at don't work
[03:37] <thandavarayan> WooD: overwrite it with "vmware"
[03:38] <mjdfmjsdf> hi. ive edited my /etc/fstab and added a f ew lines to auto mount shared folders, the problem is, it only mounts them if ido sudo mount -a in a console. any idea why?
[03:38] <WooD> thandavarayan: ok your sure about th is ?
[03:38] <mjdfmjsdf> shouldnt it mount them at boot automaticaly?
[03:38] <thandavarayan> WooD: nv is for nvidia...one thing you are still running ubuntu in VMware or...
[03:39] <WooD> thandavarayan: no im running vmware on ubuntu to be able to run windows
[03:39] <ZhongHan_> 
[03:39] <azcazandc1> hi can anyone help me install my kernel source?
[03:40] <wsjunior> why there isnt bluez-firmware for amd64?
[03:40] <thandavarayan> WooD: wait, you told otherway around before or..
[03:40] <WooD> thandavarayan: no i didn't
[03:40] <Sephnroth> oh /damn/ - i hit ctrl+z in VI to undo without thinking again - just how do you bring VI back after doing that?
[03:40] <thandavarayan> WooD: if nv is display driver then you need nvidia package to install.
[03:40] <azcazandc1> I tried the following but it said package not found sudo apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.17-10-386
[03:40] <dao> I think the ubuntu LIVE-cd doesn't boot when there is no harddisk installed, it needs to make a temporary image right?
[03:40] <snowblink> Sephnroth, fg
[03:40] <thandavarayan> WooD: otherwise you can use generic "vesa"
[03:40] <Sephnroth> thanks!
[03:41] <Wikipedia-Gast79> hi
[03:41] <WooD> thandavarayan: why it has changed itself since last week ? this is so strange i think i will reinstall vmware
[03:41] <mark_> can someone run me through manually partitioning quickly?
[03:41] <thandavarayan> WooD: Again you are confusing me, you run Linux and installed Vmware in it, to run windows right.
[03:42] <cyphase> *sigh* it's amazing how much hard drive space you can save when you really want to
[03:42] <Bokeh> doa: it'll boot just fine
[03:42] <Bokeh> at least, it should boot just fine :)
[03:42] <WooD> thandavarayan:  yes your right .iim using ubuntu 6.10 and this is my main system and use vmware to run windows on ubuntu 6.10 :)
[03:42] <mark_> wb bokeh
[03:42] <Bokeh> thx
[03:42] <mark_> wanna go over this partitioning?
[03:42] <Bokeh> sure, shoot
[03:42] <mark_> lol probably not
[03:42] <thandavarayan> WooD: now problem is you, dont get the display right.
[03:43] <nashnash> i installed hp3900-series driver to my hp scanjet 3970 scanner and now its not "device is not available" anymore its "Access to this resouce is denined" .. Picture: http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3449/screenshot3aq0.png , how can i solve it? (i use the Xsane program)
[03:43] <mark_> yeah it's telling me i have no root directory
[03:43] <mark_> gimme a sec and ill set it up again
[03:43] <piontek> poor mark
[03:43] <Bokeh> :D
[03:44] <Bokeh> life without a root directory.... must be hell
[03:44] <mark_> if I want a 50gb partition for a windows partition is it ok to have that at the start?
[03:44] <cheeseruler> LaughingoutLoud
[03:44] <piontek> poor mark
[03:44] <czekista> hoeel
[03:44] <czekista> hello* ;)
[03:44] <piontek> czekista sucks
[03:44] <mark_> i did create a boot partition though i think
[03:44] <mark_> lol
[03:44] <cheeseruler> :o
[03:44] <cheeseruler> piontek is not nice :O
[03:44] <Bokeh> yeah, windows partitions are best at the start
[03:44] <mark_> ok
[03:44] <Pawba> Ok, so back to what I was saying..
[03:44] <Bokeh> but it's recommended to install windows first, do a manual partition, then install linux
[03:44] <piontek> Bokeh: why
[03:45] <sidewalk> hey guys
[03:45] <mark_> well im not installling windows on it
[03:45] <piontek> poor mark
[03:45] <Bokeh> ooh, ok :)
[03:45] <sidewalk> i just installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu
[03:45] <piontek> why
[03:45] <sidewalk> latest version
[03:45] <piontek> why
[03:45] <Pawba> Edgy + Ebuntu.  I've managed to get everything working, but I seem to be missing something real obvious.  Everything installs and runs, but the system still starts Gnome instead of Enlightenment.
[03:45] <czekista> i have connected my flash memory stick to usb port and looks like it was detected correctly, i mean lsusb shows the device, but how can i mount it? there is no /dev/sdaX, why?
[03:45] <sidewalk> i want to get my tv-out working
[03:45] <Bokeh> piontek: because windows installations have a tendency to totally trash linux installs if you're not very careful
[03:45] <piontek> i hate windows
[03:45] <Bokeh> granted, my last dualboot setup was win2k SP1 and slack7 or 8
[03:45] <sidewalk> can you please point me out to somewhere where i can read how i can get it running?
[03:45] <mark_> bokeh: did I tell you it's a usb harddrive?
[03:45] <piontek> poor mark
[03:45] <mark_> i doubt that makes any difference
[03:46] <Bokeh> it shouldn't
[03:46] <piontek> poor mark
[03:46] <Bokeh> at least, not for linux
[03:46] <mark_> ok
[03:46] <Bokeh> assuming the initrd supports booting from usb harddisks
[03:46] <Pawba> So...  how do you change the default window manager for X?
[03:46] <piontek> poor mark
[03:46] <mark_> for windows what filesystem? ext3?
[03:46] <Bokeh> but anyway: required partitions you need to have are / (root) and swap
[03:46] <piontek> poor mark
[03:46] <mark_> get a life you freak
[03:46] <Bokeh> windows partition shouldn't have a filesystem
[03:47] <piontek> poor mark
[03:47] <mark_> oh i have ntfs in the dropdown nevermind that
[03:47] <Pawba> Windows (depending on version) should be NTFS.
[03:47] <piontek> poor mark
[03:47] <mark_> ok so what size for the swap?
[03:47] <Bokeh> 2.5x your memory is de facto standard
[03:47] <piontek> poor mark
[03:48] <Bokeh> but it depends on what you're going to use your system for and how much memory you have
[03:48] <clemyeats> what's the command to ignore somebody ? I just can't listen to piontek and his "poor mark"s anymore...
[03:48] <Bokeh> piontek...
[03:48] <mark_> you can't kick people by anychance can you?
[03:48] <Bokeh> the kindergarten's the other way :P
[03:48] <mark_> lol
[03:48] <piontek> poor mark
[03:48] <Bokeh>  /ingore name i believe
[03:48] <Bokeh>  /ignore even
[03:48] <piontek> poor mark
[03:48] <clemyeats> ok.
[03:48] <clemyeats> cool thanks Bokeh
[03:48] <mark_> yeah lol
[03:49] <piontek> poor mark
[03:49] <Bokeh> or /ignore mask@host
[03:49] <piontek> poor mark
[03:49] <Bokeh> wildcards allowed
[03:49] <gnomefreak> piontek: stop and stay on topic
[03:49] <piontek> poor mark
[03:49] <piontek> poor mark
[03:49] <mark_> there's a better solution
[03:49] <clemyeats> I typed /ignore piontec and it works fine.
[03:49] <Pawba> hm
[03:49] <mark_> ok
[03:49] <Bokeh> cheers freak :)
[03:49] <mark_> lol
[03:49] <mark_> poor piontek?
[03:49] <mark_> anyway
[03:49] <Walsen> hey
[03:49] <Bokeh> :D :D
[03:50] <mark_> if I have 6 gigs of hd space for linux
[03:50] <mpathy> Bokeh: Do you know Lilo a little bit?
[03:50] <Emess> anyone know how to setup a casio QV-R61 digital camera? when i plug it in ubuntu doesnt even see it
[03:50] <mark_> and 1 gig of ram?
[03:50] <incorrect> wow ubuntu works *cough*
[03:50] <incorrect> sorry debian user
[03:50] <Emess> ok, nevermind, digikam found it :)
[03:50] <Bokeh> what'll you be using your machine for mainly? with 1g of ram 1g of swap should be more than enough
[03:50] <mark_> do i really use 2.5gigs for swap?
[03:50] <mpathy> Bokeh: I didnt use it before and I want to know if this is good or bad: http://paste.e-scribe.com/2464/
[03:50] <Bokeh> if you don't do any weird magic
[03:50] <mark_> lo
[03:50] <thandavarayan> WooD: and...
[03:50] <mark_> magic?
[03:50] <powr-tok> I'm running edgy eft and my sound doesn't work.  I'm running a CMedia 8738 onboard soundchip, anyone know how to get it working???
[03:51] <powr-tok> It was previously working under redhat
[03:51] <Bokeh> looks good mpathy
[03:51] <Bokeh> though i haven't used lilo in years
[03:51] <mark_> ok i'll go for a gig
[03:51] <Bokeh> i prefer grub
[03:51] <Bokeh> hmmmm
[03:51] <Macaco> 2791
[03:51] <Bokeh> wait
[03:51] <Pawba> yay for grub!
[03:51] <Bokeh> 6g for linux?
[03:51] <Bokeh> in that case, skip a bit on the swap :)
[03:51] <mpathy> Bokeh: Me too but because of the Raid thing I needed Lilo
[03:52] <Bokeh> 512mb should do it as well if you're only gonna use it for desktop stuff
[03:52] <Bokeh> for raid?
[03:52] <mark_> yeah
[03:52] <mark_> raid?
[03:52] <Macaco> Rafael da Silvsa
[03:52] <Bokeh> grub works just fine with raid0, 1, 10, and 5
[03:52] <mpathy> Bokeh: You say it looks good? okay ;)
[03:52] <Pawba> Emess: I like updating my boot list without having to rewrite the partition table each time.  ;)
[03:52] <mark_> ok nm
[03:52] <Macaco> Rafael da Silva
[03:52] <WooD> thandavarayan: yes that's right .. when i want to start vmware i dont get the display at all
[03:52] <Bokeh> i think :)
[03:52] <Bokeh> it doesn't give any errors you can't ignore
[03:52] <Pawba> This is driving me nuts.  How do you change the default window manager in Ubuntu ?!
[03:52] <Macaco> Rafael
[03:53] <sidewalk> anyone?
[03:53] <thandavarayan> WooD: Display in VMWARE or display of
[03:53] <Bokeh> update-alternatives
[03:53] <sidewalk> anyone who has tried to get tv-out running under ubuntu?
[03:53] <thandavarayan> WooD: ubuntu itself...
[03:53] <GigaClon> Pawba, use the login screen?
[03:53] <mark_> bokeh: when linux creates the partitions it has swap in an extended partition, do i need to do that?
[03:53] <Bokeh> but anyway, your default window manager is set by your desktop manager
[03:53] <CarinArr> can anyone recommend a good media player? where you can arrange like music libraries and stuff
[03:53] <Bokeh> doesn't really matter
[03:53] <mark_> ok
[03:54] <clemyeats> CarinArr: Amarok
[03:54] <azcazandc1> can anybody maybe give me a little hand to try and get something working?  I am sure I have all dependencies but am still having probs
[03:54] <erUSUL> Pawba: kill metacity (after disabling it in Sys>Prefs>sesions) and run the new one (and add it to sesion)
[03:54] <Bokeh> primary, logical and extended partitions are an artefact from the dos era
[03:54] <trappist> CarinArr: definitely amaroK
[03:54] <Pawba> What the hell is metacity? :P
[03:54] <mark_> so leave them all primary?
[03:54] <CarinArr> right ta clemyeats/trappist
[03:54] <gouki> azcazandc1 - shoot
[03:54] <Bokeh> erUSUL: that's about as clean as doing heart surgery with a chainsaw :P
[03:54] <clemyeats> CarinArr: no pb.
[03:55] <Bokeh> it's easier to just select an alternative wm in gdm, log in, and confirm the selection box that you want to use this as your default session
[03:55] <Pawba> hm
[03:55] <Bokeh> mark_: you can only have 4 primaries
[03:55] <mjdfmjsdf> how do u select lgoin system? (kde or gnome)
[03:55] <Bokeh> including your extended
[03:55] <azcazandc1> gouki: I am trying to get parallels to run (it stopped after upgrading to edgy)
[03:55] <erUSUL> Bokeh: worked for me back in breezy and have survived an upgrade to dapper and hopefully and upgrade to edgy. i use sawfish as wm
[03:55] <gouki> _nEVERmind - Viva!  bom ter tugas por c! :P
[03:56] <gnomefreak> mjdfmjsdf: log in scree click sessions
[03:56] <Mehercle> !es
[03:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:56] <mark_> well i'll have 3 altogether
[03:56] <Bokeh> true, it works, but it's not the easiest way ;)
[03:56] <Bokeh> then it shouldn't be a problem
[03:56] <clemyeats> didn't seem like spanish..
[03:56] <mark_> cool
[03:56] <snowblink> !pt
[03:56] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:56] <mjdfmjsdf> no i mean, how do u choise who moderates the login system? there is a commande where you can chose kde or gnome
[03:56] <mark_> im really drawing this out lol
[03:57] <mark_> ext3 for the root?
[03:57] <Bokeh> brb, gotta pick up a package
[03:57] <gnomefreak> mjdfmjsdf: sudo dpkg --configure gdm  oor kdm depends on what one you want
[03:57] <Bokeh> i'd advise against ext3, but someone else must be able to tell you why that is :)
[03:57] <mark_> ok!
[03:57] <Bokeh> just ask around while i pick up my 22 new sata controllers
[03:57] <_nEVERmind> gouki :)
[03:57] <Tim90> is there limewire for ubuntu
[03:57] <mjdfmjsdf> there is a command which pops up a little box where you have to select gnome or kde, remember?
[03:57] <mark_> lol
[03:57] <erUSUL> !limewire
[03:57] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[03:58] <gouki> ;)
[03:58] <mark_> ok guys what filesystem should I use for root?
[03:58] <clemyeats> mark_: ext3 is fine.
[03:58] <Arigato> ahhhhhh! my clock sync the other way for daylights savings! i'm 2 hours late!
[03:58] <alecjw> mark_: i recommned ext3 too
[03:58] <dinamizador> QUIEN ESTA POR HAY?
[03:58] <clemyeats> !es
[03:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:58] <Tim90> erUSUL::)
[03:59] <alecjw> Arigato: do this command in the terminal: ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[03:59] <azcazandc1> gouki: any suggestions?  I have just been through the dependancies list and it looks liek I have everything
[03:59] <mark_> thanks guys so what was bokeh on about?
[03:59] <incorrect> i like this ubuntu server
[04:00] <incorrect> just like debootstrap without the grief
[04:00] <St_MPA3b> plz! if u are using beryl and if u know how to fix that bug http://bugs.beryl-project.org/ticket/625 plz /w me!
[04:00] <St_MPA3b> plz! if u are using beryl and if u know how to fix that bug http://bugs.beryl-project.org/ticket/625 plz /w me!
[04:00] <gouki> azcazandc1, no idea. Sorry
[04:01] <bubblenut> Hi, what's the name of the package which lets me manage applications I've compiled from source through apt?
[04:01] <azcazandc1> gouki: I get this error in the complie log if that helps configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[04:01] <jme> bubblenut: checkinstall
[04:01] <wthww|lappy> hehe, this channel has the highest user count on freenode :o
[04:01] <bubblenut> Brilliant, thanks jme
[04:01] <snowblink> azcazandc1, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:01] <thandavarayan> azcazandc1: need to install gcc
[04:01] <gouki> Do you have GCC installed
[04:01] <gouki> ?
[04:02] <azcazandc1> i just tried apt-get install gcc
[04:02] <thandavarayan> azcazandc1: build-essential is nice option
[04:02] <gouki> like snowblink said, build-essential is required too
[04:02] <azcazandc1> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 14 not upgraded.
[04:02] <alecjw> azcazandc1: i recommend that you use aptitude rather than apt-get, although that won't fix your problem
[04:02] <mark_> clemyeats: why would bokeh have reccommended against ext3?
[04:02] <azcazandc1> alecjw: what is aptitude?
[04:03] <mark_> or alec either
[04:03] <ricanelite> what plugins do i need to get my movie player like Kaffeine or Totem to play mp4 files
[04:03] <clemyeats> mark_: I don't read minds mark :)
[04:03] <gouki> azcazancdc1 - package manager - install build-essential too
[04:03] <niftydoorways> aptitude is a better apt-get
[04:03] <alecjw> azcazandc1: apt-get but better :)
[04:03] <azcazandc1> i am familiar with apt-get and synaptic
[04:03] <mark_> i think he said go for something with an s in it somewhere
[04:03] <niftydoorways> aptitude == synaptic but command line style
[04:03] <azcazandc1> so is it the same command using aptitude install?
[04:03] <clemyeats> mark_: reiserfs ?
[04:04] <niftydoorways> pretty much
[04:04] <alecjw> mark_: some filesystems are better in different ways eg ext3 is good all round, xfs is good for gigantic files etc etc
[04:04] <niftydoorways> azcazandc1: do a "aptitude --help" and see
[04:04] <mark_> reiserfs?
[04:04] <niftydoorways> Use XFS
[04:04] <mark_> i think he might havesaid that?
[04:04] <WooD> thandavarayan: display of vmware
[04:04] <centyx> hi. i've installed linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic but update-grub fails to use this kernel. it insists on using 2.6.17-10-386. Any ideas?
[04:04] <mark_> whats the difference?
[04:04] <St_MPA3b> reiser is good for small files, xfs is good for multimedia
[04:05] <St_MPA3b> ext3 suxx :)
[04:05] <alecjw> mark_: reiserfs is another good all rounder, but it's slower to mount/unmount and its harder to read reiserfs partitions in windoze
[04:05] <mark_> lol
[04:05] <JuJuBee> Can someone suggest a partition resizer for linux?
[04:05] <St_MPA3b> ))
[04:05] <azcazandc1> also which kernel should I be using on an amd 64bit 3200+ chipset
[04:05] <azcazandc1> I am only in 32 bit though
[04:05] <gouki> JuJuBee: gparted
[04:05] <mark_> am i opening a can of worms here?
[04:05] <mark_> so whats the advantage of reiserfs over ext3?
[04:06] <centyx> man IRC in gaim is ugly
[04:06] <mark_> im curious
[04:06] <incorrect> gaim is not good for irc
[04:06] <niftydoorways> reiserfs has scalability issues over ext3
[04:06] <alecjw> mark_: nothing, that's why it notbeing used anymore, besides, the developr's in jail
[04:06] <gouki> centyx - yup!! NAIM or IRSSI are the way to go
[04:06] <mark_> hahahah!
[04:06] <ricanelite> How can I get my mp4 files playing? What plugins do i need to install?
[04:06] <niftydoorways> but use XFS rather than reiser in any case
[04:06] <mark_> xfs?
[04:06] <niftydoorways> Yes.
[04:06] <centyx> gouki: never tried naim, i usually use irssi
[04:06] <mark_> is that better again then?
[04:07] <mark_> why
[04:07] <niftydoorways> Well why don't you go read up on XFS
[04:07] <mark_> now there's an idea
[04:07] <niftydoorways> it is better than spamming this place.
[04:07] <mark_> ah comeon
[04:07] <niftydoorways> tempting yes...
[04:07] <alecjw> mark_: xfs== good, but only for big files, good for a partition where you only have files 500MB+, ext3 is good for /
[04:07] <gouki> NAIM is a multi-client support with a week encryption system (better than nothing) between NAIM users (ICQ, AIM, IRC, etc)
[04:07] <niftydoorways> NO XFS is good for many small files too
[04:07] <centyx> anyone have any ideas why update-grub would be choosing linux-image-386 instead of linux-image-generic?
[04:07] <gouki> *has multi-client support
[04:08] <alecjw> niftydoorways: oops :D
[04:08] <centyx> gouki: ah ok
[04:08] <mark_> i think thats the first time I've been accosed of spamming
[04:08] <WooD> thandavarayan: i am reinstalling the vmware console right now .. lets see what it is gonna do
[04:08] <mark_> anyway I'll go read up
[04:08] <mark_> brb
[04:08] <yrlnry> How do I configure CUPS to always add a cover page to anything I print on printer foo?
[04:08] <alecjw> maybe i'm thnking of jfs or hfs...
[04:08] <Valandil> bonjour, je cherche comment me connecter au serveurs fr
[04:08] <alecjw> !fr
[04:08] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:08] <thandavarayan> WooD: okay
[04:08] <clemyeats> !fr
[04:08] <Bokeh> so, have i started a flamewar about ext3 vs reiser vs xfs yet? :P
[04:08] <alecjw> Valandil: #ubuntu-fr
[04:09] <niftydoorways> alecjw: I use XFS for a few hundred thousand files on a filesystem and works just fine, where as reidserfs puked regularly
[04:09] <alecjw> ok
[04:09] <Tim90> timo900@timo900-desktop:~/Desktop/LimeWire$ sh ./runLime.sh
[04:09] <Tim90> ./runLime.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[04:09] <Tim90> help
[04:10] <Valandil> bonjour
[04:10] <jaboja> I want to make Konqueror my default file browser (in Gnome). What should I do?
[04:10] <WooD> thandavarayan:  it does not work either after a reinstallation
[04:10] <ph1zzle|laptop> can someone please point me in the right direction for getting 32bit firefox running on 64 bit egdy?
[04:10] <ph1zzle|laptop> something about having to install 32 bit libs?
[04:10] <thandavarayan> WooD: You could not able to start the vmware or...
[04:10] <WooD> thandavarayan:  ill restart the system now
[04:10] <clemyeats> Valandil: c'est un channel ou l'on ne parle que l'Anglais. Pour parler en Francais il y'a #ubuntu-fr
[04:11] <rausb0> Tim90: try: bash ./runLime.sh
[04:11] <gouki> !fr
[04:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:11] <ph1zzle|laptop> ???
[04:12] <LTjake> i've installed svk (1.08)for ubuntu edgy, i get this error when i try to check something out: Can't call method "find" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/perl5/SVK/XD.pm line 260.
[04:12] <tuxmaniac> !in
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <JuJuBee> gouki : It wont let me resize a partition.  I am assuming it is because I am booted from it.  Can I use a live cd to boot then use gparted to resize non-destructively?
[04:12] <tuxmaniac> !India
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about India - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <pradeep> ph1zzle|laptop, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537
[04:14] <Tim90> rausb0: Seems to be diffrent in ever install i do lol , that done i thanks
[04:14] <compengi> !samba
[04:14] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:14] <powr-tok> I'm not getting any sound on Edgy!!!  Anyone any ideas??
[04:15] <thandavarayan> tuxmaniac: may I help if, I can or...
[04:15] <thandavarayan> powr-tok: which sound card do you got..
[04:15] <tuxmaniac> thandavarayan> Hi
[04:15] <thandavarayan> tuxmaniac: tell me.
[04:15] <tuxmaniac> thandavarayan> Tamil aa?
[04:15] <rausb0> Tim90: since egdy sh is a symlink to dash, so scripts that assume sh is bash won't run
[04:15] <thandavarayan> tuxmaniac: yeah.
[04:15] <tuxmaniac> thandavarayan> great to see you here. In germany?
[04:16] <thandavarayan> tuxmaniac: Any thing regarding ubuntu or...
[04:16] <jme> so what's the criticism of Ubuntu
[04:16] <jme> Edgy, specifically
[04:16] <niftydoorways> jme: You aren't helping fix the problems?
[04:16] <tuxmaniac> Nah Just like that. Was curios to know whether it gives the #ubuntu-in channel
[04:16] <jme> folks on wikipedia are whining that the article is too positive
[04:16] <tuxmaniac> thandavarayan> ^
[04:17] <thandavarayan> tuxmaniac: okay.
[04:17] <Tim90> rausb0: Makes sence to me !:-P
[04:17] <baxter_kylie> Hi. Does anyone know the mke2fs command for doing a read/write check before fs creation? I've tried 'mke2fs -c -c /dev/sda1' but continually get a 'device in use' error.
[04:17] <savvas> jme: ubuntu works as every other linux distro; help to make it better ;)
[04:17] <Hooke2> hi, is this the right place to ask whether a laptop is good for ubuntu? the laptop is: Acer Aspire 3692WLMi. The graphics card is Intel 940GML
[04:17] <boink> !laptop
[04:17] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[04:17] <linuxboy> how do I get xgl working in edgy?
[04:17] <jme> Hooke2: CPU/RAM?
[04:18] <boink> Hooke2: look there
[04:18] <jme> You'll need 256 megs for the base distribution, less for Xubuntu
[04:18] <boink> !tell Hooke2 about laptop
[04:18] <ricanelite> can someone please tell me what plugins i will need to play mp4 files
[04:18] <KenThomson_> I have a question on setting up dual monitors, but it is pretty basic, so none of the forum posts answered it. May i ask it here?
[04:18] <boink> !ask
[04:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:18] <delight> I got this strange phenomenon where i can't export an an environment variable ... it works for the most of them but as i want to export ... LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/lib/oracle/xe/app/oracle/product/10.2.0./server/lib" ... it does not work neither in /etc/environment nor in /etc/profile .. with an following "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH" ... strangest thing cause when i do it manually in the terminal it works ... but not out of /etc/profile or /etc/environme
[04:18] <Hooke2> jme, cupu Intel celeron M420 Napa. RAM 512MB
[04:18] <savvas> ricanelite: play them with which player?
[04:19] <ricanelite> i have
[04:19] <jme> you'll be fine, Hooke2
[04:19] <kodat> anyone know the command to edit files in terminal? i wanna edit the /etc/resolv.conf but i dunno what the command is to view it
[04:19] <Sensae> Hello
[04:19] <pradeep> !restricted
[04:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:19] <ricanelite> and still, it says I need a plugin but i dont know which plugin i need to find
[04:19] <delight> kodat nano
[04:19] <Hooke2> jme, any 3d acceleration?
[04:19] <kodat> delight, thanks
[04:19] <jme> what's the video chipset?
[04:19] <Hooke2> boink, thanks
[04:19] <savvas> kodat: "cat file" to view, or "nano file" to edit/view
[04:19] <comstat> try Package libmp4v2-0
[04:19] <jme> I mean, you'll have some acceleration, but with Intel graphics or something it will be slow video
[04:20] <Trist_an> hey guys, is your firefox able to open this page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isostatic_rebound
[04:20] <kodat> savvas, thxx
[04:20] <jme> Trist_an: yes
[04:20] <Tim90> i cant find the link to launch limewire
[04:20] <savvas> n/p :)
[04:20] <Bokeh> working fine here
[04:20] <Trist_an> jme, mine doesn't display it but when I look at the source it is ok. Any idea why?
[04:20] <wiz> Trist_an, yes
[04:20] <mark_> bokeh you got me in trouble
[04:20] <KenThomson_> ok, so...i got a nvidia fx5200, who has got ONLY A SINGLE VGA output, to which my current monitor is set-up. Now i want to set up another monitor, but i dont have other output port on the Graphics Card. So can i configure "it", in such a way that my another monitor can go into the motherboard's VGA output (which is currently empty)? If no, i do have a really really old PCI VGA OUTPUT card. So then, if i plug it in my motherboard, can i have two
[04:20] <KenThomson_> displays like: one on the Graphic card's vga other on the ancient PCI CARD's vga or maybe the motherboard's own VGA?
[04:20] <jme> Trist_an: try shift+F5
[04:21] <Sensae> Can someone tell me if I have an error in my crontab? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29379/
[04:21] <Lehti> hi, does anybody know if there's an avi->mp4 video converter to ubuntu?
[04:21] <jme> wikipedia has strange servers sometimes
[04:21] <pradeep> Tim90, isn't it under Applications->Internet?
[04:21] <Tim90> its not
[04:21] <Hooke2> jme, I dunno. It's a discount offer and there's not much info, but I can check
[04:21] <Trist_an> Ah, when I resized the window everything appeared. Strange...
[04:21] <pradeep> Tim90, where did u install it from?
[04:21] <jme> most likely it will have a pretty crummy video chipset, Hooke2
[04:21] <savvas> Lehti: not sure, but maybe mencode can do it
[04:21] <Tim90> what you mean file ?
[04:21] <powr-tok> thandavarayan, It's an onboard Cmedia 8738.  It worked fine in an old version of redhat (9)
[04:21] <jme> don't expect to be playing games
[04:21] <Lehti> k thnx
[04:22] <ricanelite> nothing i did not find in Adept Manager
[04:22] <Tim90> cd /home/timo900/Desktop/limewire
[04:22] <kodat> so...when i do a nano, how do i save what i did
[04:22] <savvas> Lehti: sudo apt-get install mencoder
[04:22] <thandavarayan> powr-tok: Is ubuntu's version is 6.10 or...
[04:22] <KenThomson_> Can someone please look at my above dual-monitors question?
[04:22] <comstat> its in multiverse
[04:22] <powr-tok> thandavarayan, Edgy eft.
[04:22] <Tim90> pradeep:cd /home/timo900/Desktop/limewire
 bokeh you got me in trouble <-- i did?
[04:23] <pradeep> Tim90, open a terminal and type 'limewire'
[04:23] <kodat> savvas, hey if i do a nano and edit the file..how do i save the editing i did?
[04:23] <mark_> haha
[04:23] <Hooke2> jme, it's ok, I just dont want to repeat the mistake I made when I bought my laptop pc, I snobbishly bought a radeon card, then learnt ati support in linux was so poor
[04:23] <Tim90> that easy huh ?
[04:23] <gnome_guy> After, I've upgraded from Dapper Drake to EdgyEft, why does the packages become unstable? .. I mean, everytime i try to install something with synaptic, i get one or more depencies missing :S
[04:23] <mark_> yeah we had a bit of a dispute over which filesystem
[04:23] <savvas> kodat: press ctrl+x
[04:23] <Hooke2> jme, sorry, i mean desktop pc
[04:23] <sam_> hello all - i just made the switch from mepis> ubuntu. I have a runaway process (gdesklets)
[04:23] <kodat> savvas, alright coo
[04:23] <Bokeh> hehe :D
[04:23] <thandavarayan> powr-tok: Did you check the default values of mixer using alsamixer or
[04:23] <sam_> i have tried ctrl -Z
[04:23] <savvas> kodat: then you press "Y" and enter :P
[04:23] <Lehti> I'll try that mencoder, thank you :)
[04:23] <KenThomson_> Can someone please look at my above dual-monitors question?
[04:23] <pradeep> Tim90, just trying to find out if limewire is installed properly
[04:23] <Tim90> timo900@timo900-desktop:~$ LimeWire
[04:23] <Tim90> bash: LimeWire: command not found
[04:24] <sam_> killall gdesklets
[04:24] <Sensae> This is a pastebin of my root crontab, could someone tell me if I made a mistake? It isn't running properly.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29379/
[04:24] <mark_> doesnt matter I'm still having problems
[04:24] <jme> yeah, well you probably don't have either an ATI or an nVidia, Hooke2
[04:24] <sam_> to no avail
[04:24] <powr-tok> thandavarayan, yes, but alsamixer just says "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"
[04:24] <jme> you get something even lamer!
[04:24] <thandavarayan> Tim90: Do you set the path to the binary or
[04:24] <pradeep> Tim90, no caps: just 'limewire'
[04:24] <kodat> savvas, excellent..so thats what the ^ meant.
[04:24] <KenThomson_> !Dual monitor
[04:24] <kodat> savvas, means ctrl heh
[04:24] <mark_> the fact that I have serial ata in my pc has hardly anything to do with it?
[04:24] <savvas> kodat: correct :D
[04:24] <sam_> anyone help me to find a process/system monitor in gnome?
[04:24] <thandavarayan> powr-tok: then something went wrong on installation...
[04:24] <Hooke2> jme, the laptop 549 euro for students :D
[04:24] <Bokeh> hmmm
[04:25] <tribe> hi there, anyone knows how to check how a ubuntu package was configured && compiled (options and stuff) ?
[04:25] <Bokeh> you have a sata disk as well
[04:25] <Tim90> pradeep: i could run it but couldnt preview a mp3 file, so i closed now i can find the limewire icon
[04:25] <Bokeh> are you sure you're not trying to partition the wrong disk? :D
[04:25] <savvas> kodat: i had the same problem with you, so i tried alt, shift then ctrl to find out hehe
[04:25] <Trist_an> Anyone knows why do I have to resize firefox window to see the content of my window? especially on wikipedia...
[04:25] <KenThomson_> ok, so...i got a nvidia fx5200, who has got ONLY A SINGLE VGA output, to which my current monitor is set-up. Now i want to set up another monitor, but i dont have other output port on the Graphics Card. So can i configure "it", in such a way that my another monitor can go into the motherboard's VGA output (which is currently empty)? If no, i do have a really really old PCI VGA OUTPUT card. So then, if i plug it in my motherboard, can i have two
[04:25] <KenThomson_> displays like: one on the Graphic card's vga other on the ancient PCI CARD's vga or maybe the motherboard's own VGA
[04:25] <thandavarayan> powr-tok: I dont mean, you made mistake...may be something to do with installation script
[04:25] <kodat> savvas, hehe
[04:25] <nashnash> i installed hp3900-series driver to my hp scanjet 3970 scanner and now its not "device is not available" anymore its "Access to this resouce is denined" .. Picture: http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3449/screenshot3aq0.png , how can i solve it? (i use the Xsane program)
[04:25] <pradeep> Tim90, and the icon works?
[04:25] <sam_> is there a newbie channel anywhere?
[04:25] <powr-tok> thandavarayan, sure.... any ideas on how to resolve it?
[04:26] <mark_> bokeh im sure :P
[04:26] <thandavarayan> powr-tok: can you try alsaconf
[04:26] <Tim90> pradeep:timo900@timo900-desktop:~$ limewire or
[04:26] <thandavarayan> powr-tok: under root
[04:26] <clemyeats> sam_: you're on it :)
[04:26] <Bokeh> nashnash: you probably need to add yourself to the group that gives you access to the scanner device
[04:26] <Bokeh> can't tell which group it is, since i don't use a scanner myself
[04:26] <sam_> anyone help me kill a process?
[04:26] <KenThomson_> This is so bloated, so many cross questions, i can get anyone to listen to me :(
[04:26] <clemyeats> sam_: yes, no pb.
[04:26] <thandavarayan> Tim90: Is limewire *.deb or ....
[04:26] <incorrect> kill -9 sam_
[04:26] <KenThomson_> *cant
[04:26] <Tim90> pradeep:i never use the icon not once, i configured limewire after that i could use it
[04:26] <Sensae> I can
[04:26] <Sensae> *I can't eitehr
[04:26] <powr-tok> thandavarayan, it's not installed...
[04:27] <clemyeats> sam_: "ps -ef" lists the processes and their pid.
[04:27] <Bokeh> sure, for 100 i can have him whacked, for 250 i'll throw him in the lake with a millstone, and for 500 i'll place the blame on some other guy
[04:27] <powr-tok> thandavarayan, what package is it in?
[04:27] <clemyeats> sam_: "kill -9 pid" kill the process which pid is pid.
[04:27] <nashnash> Bokeh i have tried to do it . i went to scanner http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/259/screenshot7xt7.png and i marked my user but its not working yet.. how do i give access ?
[04:27] <Sephnroth> Bokeh: do you know if there is anyway to limit what an svn user can do? the users and passwords are made with the htpasswd command but it occurs that i might want some ppl to be able to grab the files but not commit or some to commit and not lock etc
[04:27] <Tim90> !limewire
[04:27] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[04:27] <thandavarayan> powr-tok: alsa-driver, alsa-lib and alsa-utis
[04:27] <HaroldJohnson> Morning, all
[04:27] <Tim90> that were i got it from
[04:27] <thandavarayan> alsa-utils
[04:27] <KenThomson_> lupine_85: can you please help me wtih the dual monitor question?
[04:27] <clemyeats> sam_: "killall name" kills all process for the application which name is name.
[04:27] <HaroldJohnson> How do I display metadata of a file?
[04:27] <nrdb> HaroldJohnson: it 2:27am here
[04:27] <clemyeats> sam_: xkill transforms your mouse pointer into a lethal weapon.
[04:27] <Sensae> I had problems running Limewire on Edgy, I thus installed gtk-gnutella.
[04:28] <Bokeh> Sephnroth: you needed to set permissions in svn itself, i believe.... you can do it with htaccess files, but that's a very messy solution in general
[04:28] <thandavarayan> powr-tok: It will be a pain if you install from source, since it need to recompile the kernel source
[04:28] <Bokeh> sec, i'll look up my old configs
[04:28] <HaroldJohnson> nrdb: That's morning, isn't it?
[04:28] <okiweb> hi i cant get the rigth resolution for my screen, what am i supposed to do ? (it doesnt appear in the configuration utility)
[04:28] <HaroldJohnson> nrdb: :)
[04:28] <Bokeh> nashnash: tried logging in and out again?
[04:28] <clemyeats> okiweb: what card ?
[04:28] <Sephnroth> thankyou bokeh :)  i appreiciate it, im a bit lost and new to setting this up im doing things this way as thats simply what the guide taught
[04:28] <KenThomson_> help please.
[04:28] <nashnash> yes i have tried that. Bokeh i thought maybe it'll work on root user but i cant log in to it.. i dont know the password
[04:28] <okiweb> clemyeats: nvidia 6600 GT
[04:28] <Tim90> thandavarayan:what you mean
[04:28] <pradeep> Tim90, did you install it?
[04:28] <powr-tok> thandavarayan, how do I install those?  "apt-get install alsa-driver alsa-lib alsa-utils" ?
[04:28] <Bokeh> shite
[04:28] <nrdb> HaroldJohnson: yes I suppose, I think of it more as a late night.
[04:28] <Bokeh> home server is down
[04:28] <Bokeh> for some odd reason
[04:28] <Tim90> yes prad
[04:29] <Tim90> i could even use it
[04:29] <Tim90> downloaded a fiel
[04:29] <KenThomson_> boink: Can you help me with the dual monitor question?
[04:29] <thandavarayan> Tim90: regarding....
[04:29] <sam_> tried xkill - still wont die...
[04:29] <Bokeh> i'd recommend googling for svn permissions... i remember you had to make a config file in the repository with the exact user and group name and their rights somewhere
[04:29] <jaboja> Where Gnome knows from which program to run when a icon of directory is pressed (for example this one of cd in panel on the top of screen)?
[04:29] <Sephnroth> ok
[04:29] <HaroldJohnson> nrdb: Ah yes
[04:29] <Tim90> i have gnome ,i got lime wire from
[04:29] <Tim90> 1limewire
[04:29] <KenThomson_> Aint someone around here who knows something about Dual Monitors? :(
[04:29] <mark_> so bokeh, not to ext3?
[04:29] <clemyeats> sam_ : try the kill -9
[04:29] <Tim90> !limewire
[04:29] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[04:29] <HaroldJohnson> nrdb: How do you display the metadata of a file or directory?
[04:30] <nrdb> HaroldJohnson: no idea sorry
[04:30] <nashnash> ok bokeh ill try to google it " svn permissions " thanks. btw someone told me maybe i need to chmod /dev/bus/usb/005 i dont have 005 dir anyway, but i tried sudo chmod a+w 002 for example and it didnt work.. this is the way to chmod?
[04:30] <Bokeh> for a 6g partition, ext3 should do fine :)
[04:30] <thandavarayan> Tim90: you installed limewire from a installer...if so then it will installed in a directory which you specify during installation
[04:30] <sam_> it says   kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec]  pid | jobspec ... or kill -l [sigspec] 
[04:30] <mark_> yeah i thought so
[04:30] <HaroldJohnson> nrdb: That's okay.  Morning/Evening to you, anyway!
[04:30] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone: How do I display the metadata of a file or diretory?
[04:30] <Bokeh> chmodding an usb device for svn?
[04:31] <Bokeh> what kind of advice is that?
[04:31] <bobesponja> does the postgresuser comes with a password?
[04:31] <Tim90> thandavarayan: it didnt ask me for a directory
[04:31] <nashnash> bad one? :
[04:31] <thandavarayan> Tim90: you need to add that path to $PATH in your .profile or in .bashrc
[04:31] <nashnash> :p
[04:31] <KenThomson_> I really hoped to get someone help me with Dual Monitor, anyways no problem, slogging has always been attatched with Linux, let it be
[04:31] <nrdb> I was wondering if Linux running on a PPC is less prone to viruses etc.
[04:31] <powr-tok> thandavarayan, how do I install those?  "apt-get install alsa-driver alsa-lib alsa-utils" ?
[04:31] <pradeep> sam_ 'kill -9 pid' where pid is the process id for the process you want to kill
[04:31] <Bokeh> oh, wait
[04:31] <Bokeh> sorry, nashnash
[04:31] <gnome_guy> I've upgraded my Dapper to Edgy, and every package seems broken, because whenever I install something (xchat, vlc etc) from synaptic package manager, it tells me one or more depencies is missing, how do i fix this?
[04:31] <mark_> ok so I've 50gig unformatted. 5.38 ext3 :P, and 512 for swap, nothing left over
[04:31] <thandavarayan> Tim90: do you install as a root or
[04:31] <Bokeh> that svn google was meant for Sephnroth :D
[04:31] <mark_> proceed?
[04:31] <Tim90> but i did type cd /home/timo900/Desktop/LimeWire
[04:31] <Bokeh> yeah, proceed
[04:32] <nashnash> aah bokeh
[04:32] <HaroldJohnson> nrdb: Probably -- but there's hardly any viruses on Linux
[04:32] <MTecknology> I am trying to connect to a windows share called \\share... I'm trying to figure it out but having troubles, any help?
[04:32] <Tim90> i dont think so , i done bash LimeWire.sh
[04:32] <Tim90> thandavarayan:
[04:32] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: did you dist-upgrade ?
[04:32] <mark_> ok grand
[04:32] <Bokeh> anyway..... try doing a tail -n 20 -f /var/log/messages
[04:32] <Bokeh> and see if it gives any message when you try to access the scanner
[04:32] <mark_> im at the next screen that asks what i want to set the root and swap to
[04:32] <tRSS> when I do a this from a windows machine: net time \\myUbuntu /set /yes , i see two times being broadcasted by my Ubuntu machine? is there a reason for this?
[04:32] <mark_> all ok
[04:32] <thandavarayan> Tim90: If so, do you see any folder in your home directory
[04:33] <sam_> but i dont know what pid/ process... there is no process running that is recognisable as gdesklets...
[04:33] <nashnash> Bokeh: than how can i chmod /dev/bus/usb/002 with a+w rights? sudo chmod a+w 002 ?
[04:33] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  dist-upgrades return -- 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:33] <mark_> what do i write grub to?
[04:33] <c0nf> hiiii
[04:33] <nrdb> HaroldJohnson: ok thanks.  my boss is a little paranoid about the subject.
[04:33] <c0nf> nashnash :p
[04:33] <nashnash> ;)
[04:33] <mark_> maybe thats my problem?
[04:33] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: and normal upgrades ?
[04:33] <thandavarayan> powr-tok: but I am still not sure what causes the problem...any try will be like doing something blind...
[04:33] <zeus77> anyone know if scripts in /etc/init.d can be interactive (for example, prompt user for a password)?
[04:33] <Tomcat_> zeus77: Sure they can :o
[04:33] <HaroldJohnson> nrdb: As is his wont
[04:33] <SABUR> russian is here?
[04:33] <thandavarayan> powr-tok: anyway...if you want to install alsa from source, you can do that...www.alsa-project.org
[04:34] <Bokeh> that should work nash, but realise that that'll only fix your problem till the next reboot
[04:34] <HaroldJohnson> nrdb: Linux has no viruses
[04:34] <powr-tok> thandavarayan, I'd rather not =)
[04:34] <Tim90> thandavarayan: i can see the shear folder and the Incomplete (all limewire download folders)
[04:34] <HaroldJohnson> nrdb: I mean...
[04:34] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  normal upgrade? as in update-manager ?
[04:34] <gnome_guy> orw ait
[04:34] <garulfolinux> bonjour j'ai un problme audio
[04:34] <nrdb> zeus77: there wouldn't be any GUI for a requester.
[04:34] <nashnash> ah ok thanks bokeh ill reboot then after it
[04:34] <gnome_guy> oh wait
[04:34] <mark_> bokeh: how do i find out which hd hd0 is and so forth?
[04:34] <KenThomson_> BTW, if someone can help me with Dual Monitors, i wait for your support
[04:34] <gouki> !fr
[04:34] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:34] <powr-tok> there are forum posts on this... but no one seems to have resolved it.
[04:34] <HaroldJohnson> nrdb: ...if Linux has any viruses, they are so few as to hardly call them viruses...
[04:34] <garulfolinux> je n'ai plus de son ! :/
[04:34] <Bokeh> ehm....
[04:34] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: no, as in apt-get upgrade
[04:34] <Bokeh> pfft.
[04:34] <HaroldJohnson> nrdb: ...no matter whether on a PC or a Mac.
[04:34] <Bokeh> hd0 is your first harddisk, usually :)
[04:34] <thandavarayan> Tim90: Did you extract the packge or
[04:34] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  it returns back - 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:34] <zeus77> nrdb: what about the the command line?
[04:34] <mark_> is pfft some command?
[04:34] <Bokeh> hd1 the second, etc. etc.
[04:34] <pradeep> sam_ do this : 'ps -ef | grep gdeskl'
[04:34] <mark_> lol
[04:34] <VisualStation> garulfolinux, Ubuntu-fr nan ;D
[04:34] <mark_> maybe then thats my problem
[04:35] <Bokeh> so it should be the same order as in the partitioner showed them
[04:35] <Skaag> I need to create a flow diagram, with people and arrows and computers and internet clouds, etc... what's the linux tool to do that?
[04:35] <thandavarayan> powr-tok: then I have no other ideas... :-)
[04:35] <garulfolinux> lol VisualStation :D
[04:35] <HaroldJohnson> nrdb: I would *guess* that viruses on a Mac would be less, since there are so many less Macs running Linux (and therefore, not much incentrive for virus programmers).
[04:35] <Bokeh> do you want to boot from the usb disk as well?
[04:35] <nrdb> HaroldJohnson: I know there aren't many but I thought I would ask anyway.
[04:35] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: looks like something's wrong with your sources.list
[04:35] <Skaag> garulfolinux: free?
[04:35] <mark_> do I have to go back through partitioner or can i find out another way?
[04:35] <Bokeh> Skaag: dia
[04:35] <HaroldJohnson> nrdb: Of course.
[04:35] <mark_> yeah i wanna do that
[04:35] <Tim90>  thandavarayan: yess extracted to desktop
[04:35] <HaroldJohnson> nrdb: I'm not expert, btw
[04:35] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  can I display my sources.list to you @ pastebin/nomorepaste?
[04:35] <sam_> thanks for help i found it... it was python....
[04:35] <thandavarayan> Tim90: Does it create any directory after extraction
[04:36] <Skaag> Bokeh: dia has those symbols? (people, computers, internet clouds, routers, etc.)
[04:36] <mark_> i want to boot off the usbdisc whenever it's plugged in
[04:36] <Bokeh> yeah
[04:36] <JamieBE> Can someone please assist me with the Ubuntu "fix" for 5.1 audio at this page: http://my.opera.com/kurzon/blog/show.dml/401773
[04:36] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: yes, give me the address for pastebin ?
[04:36] <FordPrefect> hey does anyone know if its possible to use the hibernate feature as "snapshots" if you will?  (minus vmware)
[04:36] <Bokeh> ok, motherboard supports booting from usb mass storage as well?
[04:36] <gnome_guy> Tim90, Hey, just curious.. Does your xgl/beryl goes slow? If it does, is there a fix around it?
[04:36] <gnome_guy> clemyeats, alright, thanks - hold on
[04:36] <mark_> yep
[04:36] <zeus77> Tomcat_: do i need to do anything special to get user interaction in init scripts?
[04:36] <sam_> thanks all
[04:36] <Bokeh> ok
[04:36] <gouki> mark_ make sure your motherboard supports USB loading and set it as the primary booting device
[04:36] <JamieBE> I have found the /etc/rc.local file, but there doesn't appear to be a file called ~/.asoundrc anywhere.
[04:36] <nrdb> zeus77: the init.d scripts are run as root anyway, you could probably use sudo to run a script as non root, and get sudo to prompt for a password.
[04:36] <Tomcat_> zeus77: I doubt it. Problem will be usplash, which doesn't show any prompt on bootup.
[04:36] <Bokeh> i would presume that the last harddisk in the list is your usb disk then
[04:37] <mark_> gouki: thats not really my problem
[04:37] <JamieBE> Where would this file be?
[04:37] <HaroldJohnson> !metadata
[04:37] <Bokeh> or do you still need to fill in the disk to install grub on
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metadata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <KenThomson_> !qemu
[04:37] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[04:37] <mark_> i dont have a list, when i click it i just get a text box, so I assume i'm supposed to know
[04:37] <Bokeh> gah
[04:37] <mark_> i'll go back through partitioner and find out for sure
[04:37] <Bokeh> that's such a stupid ui flaw
[04:37] <mark_> yeah
[04:38] <Tim90> gnome_guy: if you click on the red diamond, you will have lost of aptions to help you with that , like reload
[04:38] <rawi> I want to mount a drive... How do I say that it has to mount the drive to the dir. now standing in
[04:38] <JamieBE> Does anyone know, should I make this ~/.asoundrc file?
[04:38] <Bokeh> well, it's counting time then :)
[04:38] <FordPrefect> any links to resources on how to use hibernate feature as snapshots would be appreciated
[04:38] <mark_> lol
[04:38] <Bokeh> go back to the partitioner and count the harddisks
[04:38] <mark_> i can do that i thin
[04:38] <gnome_guy> Tim90, Did slowness, ever happened to you,at first ?
[04:38] <FordPrefect> google isn't much help because of the java library
[04:38] <_tarzan_> how can I do a floppy for boot?, ubuntu is instaled with grub on hda
[04:38] <mark_> i can count up to 3 anyway so i should be ok
[04:38] <Bokeh> the first in the list is hd0, the second hd1, etc.
[04:39] <mark_> not really
[04:39] <mark_> i have sda
[04:39] <rawi> I want to mount a drive... How do I say that it has to mount the drive to the dir. now standing in
[04:39] <mark_> sdb and sdc
[04:39] <Tim90> gnome_guy:What are your system specs
[04:39] <mark_> is that normal?
[04:39] <Tim90> hey guys help me with lime wire
[04:39] <gnome_guy> Tim90, 3 GHz, 1 GB RAM, 128MB ATI Radeon 9250
[04:39] <vladkao> rawi: the same way as any other. just mind that `pwd` displays the current directory
[04:39] <_tarzan_> i chequed grub , grub-install info but it doesn have useful info
[04:39] <gnome_guy> Tim90,  you need java, in order to load limewire
[04:40] <purefan> Hi everyone! im just wondering if there is an easy and safe way to update my firefox 1.5 to the new firefox 2?
[04:40] <JamieBE> Anyone please?
[04:40] <Bokeh> sda/sdb/sdc are 3 scsi or scsi-emulated disks
[04:40] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=70645
[04:40] <mark_> yeah sounds right
[04:40] <Bokeh> so that's either sata, firewire or usb in the case of harddisks
[04:40] <Bokeh> or scsi ofcourse :)
[04:40] <KenThomson_> !Windows
[04:40] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[04:40] <mark_> so sdc it is then
[04:40] <rawi> but I dont no how.. neither with smb or in shell
[04:40] <Bokeh> probably
[04:40] <rawi> linux noob..
[04:40] <KenThomson_> !equivalents
[04:40] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[04:40] <Bokeh> can you open a terminal and type mount
[04:40] <Bokeh> that way you can see what disk is currently mounted
[04:40] <rawi> yes
[04:41] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone know if I can update packages without updating my distro?
[04:41] <mark_> Bullscutter!!
[04:41] <mark_> it's still not working
[04:41] <HaroldJohnson> For example, can I keep running Breezy, and update packages like Firefox, etc. to their latest versions?
[04:41] <Tim90> gnome_guy: run glxinfo |grep direct tell me what it says
[04:41] <Bokeh> what error message is it giving?
[04:42] <mark_> same one again
[04:42] <HaroldJohnson> The reason: My OldWorld Mac doesn't like Dapper nor Edgy, but it's fine running Breezy.
[04:42] <neonempyr> Is there a package that enables mp3 playback globally?
[04:42] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: you don't have multiverse...
[04:42] <gnome_guy> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[04:42] <gnome_guy> direct rendering: Yes
[04:42] <Tim90> gnome_guy:i have it installed ,just can find th icon
[04:42] <JamieBE> Can someone please tell me where this file is?
[04:42] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  Doesn't Edgy have multiverse as default?
[04:42] <gnome_guy> JamieBE,  what file?
[04:42] <Sephnroth> bokeh sorry for all these questions but you are the only person whos come close to answering any of them so far ^^; i restricted the public user to read only. now for this one repository the content is a "public effort" so i want ppl to be able to commit but i need to track whos doing what incase of bad form which means i need to let people sign up
[04:42] <mark_> ok im back in partition manager
[04:42] <gnome_guy> Tim90, type this: sudo find / -name limewire
[04:42] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: yes, but it's not activated by default
[04:43] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  how do i activate it?
[04:43] <Sephnroth> im very profcient in php so if anyone knows where to start looking i can write my own sign up script if i know what commands to call to write to the passwd file from a script - or is there an existing front end to be recommended?
[04:43] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: everywhere you see universe, add multiverse after it.
[04:43] <JamieBE> Hi Gnome_Guy. I have 5.1 surround system, but Ubuntu only plays the front left right speakers. I have found a "fix" at http://my.opera.com/kurzon/blog/show.dml/401773
[04:43] <Bokeh> hmmmmm.
[04:43] <Bokeh> haven't really done anything like that with svn
[04:44] <mark_> i'll nab you in a sec too bokeh
[04:44] <JamieBE> The problem is that I can't find this .asoundrc file anywhere
[04:44] <Bokeh> k, np
[04:44] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  setting > repositories (in synaptic) ?
[04:44] <Bokeh> but i can imagine that there should be frontends
[04:44] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: yes, why not.
[04:44] <rawi> I use this command: mount -t smbfs -o username=USERNAME,password=PASSWORD //192/168.2.1/liedjes
[04:44] <rawi> but I need to define a destination dir. But I want that to be the dir. I am standing in
[04:44] <Dynalon> hi eb, is there a edgy DVD for download available? i only find CD isos
[04:44] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: then simply check the checkbox for multiverse.
[04:44] <Bokeh> but yeah, that should be possible, to write users to a .htpasswd file with php
[04:45] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  setting > repositories has changed (between dapper and edgy) lol
[04:45] <mark_> ooh!
[04:45] <johan_> Can anyone help me install drivers for my craphics card?
[04:45] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: yes, it's much better now (it's more buggy as well though)
[04:45] <rausb0> Tim90: did you install as user? then it must be somewhere under your $HOME dir
[04:45] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  And I've done apt-get update too.. what's next?
[04:45] <mark_> do i need to stick grub on a partiton within the usb disc?
[04:45] <JamieBE> Anyone?
[04:45] <mark_> eg the linux partition
[04:45] <Bokeh> nope, you need to stick grub on the disk itself
[04:45] <mark_> ok damn
[04:45] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: that's it
[04:45] <mark_> haha
[04:45] <Bokeh> if you put it on a partition you can only use it to chainload bootloaders
[04:46] <timhaughton> I'm a complete n00b to Apache and PHP. I've done a new LAMP server install - I'm not sure that PHP is working correctly. I've successfully got TorrentFlux to install, but whenever I go to the TorrentFlux web page, the browser just asks if I want to save the file. What should I do?
[04:46] <goose> can someone tell me why the updates notification has popped up, but won't show any u pdates?
[04:46] <Dynalon> no 6.10 dvd release?!?
[04:46] <rawi> I use this command: mount -t smbfs -o username=USERNAME,password=PASSWORD //192/168.2.1/liedjes
[04:46] <rawi> but I need to define a destination dir. But I want that to be the dir. I am standing in
[04:46] <Tim90> rausbo0:i did i only have the sheare and Incomplete folder from lime wire there
[04:46] <mark_> well im in partition manager again and i've those little yellow warning triangles over the 50g and 5g partitions
[04:46] <Bokeh> weird
[04:46] <mark_> and a lock beside the 5g one
[04:47] <Bokeh> very weird
[04:47] <Bokeh> do the signs say anything when you hover over them?
[04:47] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  Alright thanks, last question: Is this a known bug or something --> I've updated my edgy box thru update-manager, it have hpijs, python and some other packages, after a nice reboot, my bottom panel (where all the open program goes) disappeared?
[04:47] <clemyeats> rawi: mount -t smbfs -o username=USERNAME,password=PASSWORD //192/168.2.1/liedjes .
[04:47] <rawi> thanq :D
[04:47] <Bokeh> i'm not too familiar with the edgy install, can't be arsed upgrading from dapper at the office
[04:47] <mark_> when i click info it says: unable to read contents of filesystem
[04:47] <johan_> help me install drivers for my graphics? pleeeeeeease help
[04:47] <mark_> and did i install the correct pligin
[04:47] <Bokeh> ehm
[04:47] <Bokeh> that is just weird
[04:48] <mark_> dapper?
[04:48] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: waoo, that's weird... but you can just recreate it. Add a panel, then add applets to it, like systray and all.
[04:48] <mark_> i had kubuntu working on it somewhat already
[04:48] <JamieBE> >>>Anyone able to assist with a surround sound problem?
[04:48] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  I've tried adding a new panel (bottom), but it doesn't show!
[04:48] <gnome_guy> the panel
[04:48] <Bokeh> dapper's the previous stable
[04:49] <mark_> yeah
[04:49] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: are you using xgl or something ?
[04:49] <mark_> but im well confised
[04:49] <mark_> confused
[04:49] <mark_> what could it be?
[04:49] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  I was, and THAT was the time, my panel disappeared. Reformatted my ubuntu, and upgraded from Dapper > Edgy.
[04:49] <Tim90> ever one im going to try a reboot see if i find limewire icon then
[04:50] <kalila> hello
[04:50] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: if you've extra stuff installed like beryl or compiz or xgl, you should have the sources.list pointing to the extra stuff's repositories...
[04:50] <Bokeh> i'm confused as well :)
[04:50] <Trist_an> !ntfs
[04:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:50] <mark_> glad to hear it
[04:50] <Bokeh> problem is: i can't see what's going on on your machine, i can't watch the logs or anything
[04:50] <kalila> I've installed nvidia drivers, and now X won't start.
[04:50] <Bokeh> so that makes it a whole lot harder
[04:50] <mark_> yeah
[04:50] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  I don't think I'll ever use xgl/beryl again, lol -- since, I
[04:50] <gnome_guy> ''m just newbie
[04:50] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: well, in time....
[04:50] <mark_> does it sound complicated?
[04:51] <Bokeh> it sounds like a weird bug
[04:51] <mark_> ive friends who know linux better
[04:51] <johan_> help me install drivers for my graphics? pleeeeeeease help
[04:51] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: I've got Compiz working here, but there's a few things I'm not happy with.
[04:51] <lakbu> hi
[04:51] <niftydoorways> johan_ you need to tell us more.
[04:51] <JamieBE> ANYONE?
[04:51] <mark_> im guessing it's a problem with the coctail of harddrives
[04:51] <mark_> actually i might try it on a diffferent machine
[04:51] <Bokeh> possible
[04:52] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  ATI card?
[04:52] <lakbu> i just uprgaded ny dapper to edgy, but firefox keeps crashing whenever i access a site flash
[04:52] <mark_> brb
[04:52] <Bokeh> i think it's easier to ask someone to take a look at it who lives near you
[04:52] <mark_> might do that
[04:52] <gnome_guy> lakbu,  try reinstalling flash,
[04:52] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: anyway, if you want to try 3d effects without the hassle, you can run Mandriva One 2007.
[04:52] <Bokeh> doing something at the console is so much easier than guiding people through it remotely :)
[04:52] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: Intel 855.
[04:52] <lakbu> gnome_guy, i already did
[04:52] <mark_> where you from just out of interest? you dont sound american
[04:52] <lakbu> gnome_guy, but still keeps crashing
[04:52] <gnome_guy> clemyeats, 64mb vram?
[04:52] <clemyeats> mark_: who ?
[04:53] <mark_> bokeh
[04:53] <lakbu> gnome_guy, i even tried the flash player9 beta
[04:53] <gnome_guy> lakbu,  tried different browser ?
[04:53] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: no idea :) integrated on the motherboard..
[04:53] <Tim90> i got lime wire up by running: timo900@timo900-desktop:~/Desktop/LimeWire$ bash runLime.sh
[04:53] <mark_> well you can tell me where you're from too if you want lol
[04:53] <gnome_guy> clemyeats, wow, and your compiz runs without slowness?
[04:53] <Bokeh> holland
[04:53] <mark_> ah
[04:53] <lakbu> gnome_guy, TRIed mozilla browser, and it crashes too
[04:53] <clemyeats> :) French, living in Ireland.
[04:53] <mark_> not too far away then
[04:53] <gnome_guy> Tim90, add it as a launcher
[04:53] <johan_> okej. ive tried every how-to to install ati-drivers for my edgy but still it says OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[04:53] <mark_> im in ireland
[04:53] <clemyeats> mark_: where about ?
[04:53] <johan_> anyone have time to help?
[04:53] <mark_> right im gonna try this on anothe comp and see
[04:53] <mark_> kilkenny
[04:54] <gnome_guy> lakbu, i was leaning more to opera, since Mozilla is firefox!
[04:54] <Bokeh> i find more than 20 meters of water too far :P
[04:54] <clemyeats> mark_: I'm in Galway
[04:54] <mark_> why clemy?
[04:54] <mark_> haha cool
[04:54] <mark_> wanna come over and fix this?
[04:54] <johan_> niftydoorways: you have time to help?
[04:54] <lakbu> gnome_guy, :) not yet.
[04:54] <Tim90> gnome_guy:how
[04:54] <clemyeats> mark_: I'll knock on your door for halloween :)
[04:54] <mark_> lol
[04:54] <gnome_guy> clemyeats, The best of the best = Ubuntu, no doubt...
[04:54] <Tim90> ohh i knoe
[04:54] <gnome_guy> I have to go and shake Mark Shuttleworth's hand one day
[04:54] <mark_> right ill brb
[04:54] <gnome_guy> lol
[04:55] <Tim90> ohh i know , bUt im going to need a icon
[04:55] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: yes, unfortunately 3D effects and the desktop were neglected... Mandriva and Fedora got it right..
[04:55] <`Jessica> Hi, I'm trying to compile something and I'm getting this errror: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[04:55] <`Jessica> 
[04:55] <`Jessica> any ideas?
[04:55] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  by default?
[04:55] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: yep !
[04:55] <rausb0> `Jessica: sudo apt-get install build-essential   ?
[04:55] <gnome_guy> Well, , who cares, when you got your fav. linux up and running (Ubuntu) :)
[04:56] <clemyeats> that's the main thing.
[04:56] <`Jessica> rausb0: wait one'
[04:56] <mark_> is there an eject cd command from terminal?
[04:56] <clemyeats> mark_: eject
[04:56] <lakbu> there's no opera version yet for edgy
[04:56] <MarcN> mark_:  eject /de/v/cdrom
[04:56] <mark_> lol
[04:56] <gnome_guy> mark_, umount does do.
[04:56] <mark_> duh
[04:56] <MarcN> lakbu: the one for dapper works fine for me.
[04:56] <lakbu> aight
[04:56] <`Jessica> rausb0: doing it now. looks like that was why :)
[04:56] <mark_> ok got it
[04:56] <mark_> brb
[04:57] <gnome_guy> clemyeats, is mandrake (mandriva) redhat-based or debian-based ?
[04:57] <kalila> any nvidia drivers gurus? after installing the nvidia drivers X won't start
[04:57] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: it was redhat based.
[04:57] <Bokeh> anyways
[04:57] <`Jessica>  kalilia
[04:57] <`Jessica> yes
[04:57] <`Jessica> PM Me
[04:57] <Bokeh> worktime's over
[04:57] <`Jessica> I will help you
[04:57] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  was, eh?
[04:57] <kevb> hey all, need a little help on a problem: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/65795 with this bug
[04:57] <rausb0> `Jessica: build-essential gets you the essential build tools installed (like gcc, g++, make, ...)
[04:57] <gnome_guy> kalila,  can you try starting x server manually ?
[04:57] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: but that's a long time ago... it's more like its own self now.
[04:57] <Vanuatoo> I have ati x850xt pcie and ubuntu 6.10 x86 can't boot
[04:57] <kalila> gnome_guy: no go, it just shows the nvidia logo
[04:58] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  and it has it's own package manager?
[04:58] <JuJuBee> I need some help with a custom install.  WHen I create partitions manually and install, I cannot boot the computer.  I do not see where to set a partition bootable or where to install grub.
[04:58] <kalila> then crashes
[04:58] <Bokeh|Away> i really need to get my frigging irc bouncer working again
[04:58] <lakbu> has anyone experienced this mozilla firefox 2.0 keeps crashing when accessing a site with flash too\?
[04:58] <Vanuatoo> I tried safe vga mode too
[04:58] <gh0st> hello, how can i have this command line mixer? (alsa)
[04:58] <`Jessica> hey
[04:58] <`Jessica> guys
[04:58] <`Jessica> I need an op
[04:58] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: yes. The best RPM package manager I know.
[04:58] <`Jessica> or an admin who has control over ubotu
[04:58] <rausb0> `Jessica: no one gets op here
[04:58] <`Jessica> no
[04:58] <ianmacgregor> !away > Bokeh|Away
[04:58] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: not as good as APT though, but not far from it.
[04:58] <`Jessica> I need to SPEAK WITH OEN
[04:58] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  lol, mandriva ain't redhat-based, but it uses redhat package manager, lol.
[04:58] <snooplsm> Can someone walk me through setting up a cvs server that uses ssh authentication?
[04:58] <xroach> hi
[04:58] <`Jessica> rausb0: I need to speak with oen
[04:58] <rausb0> `Jessica: oen?
[04:58] <`Jessica> One.
[04:58] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: it doesn't.
[04:59] <gnome_guy> RPM == redhat package manager
[04:59] <jorgp> I ditched firefox 2, went back to 1.5.0.7
[04:59] <gnome_guy> and that's what you said! RPM. :P
[04:59] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: it uses the RPM format that's all, but its own packages, and own package manager.
[04:59] <kevb> anyone know anything about this vino bug (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/65795) I really need help to connect to my machine remotely
[04:59] <rausb0> `Jessica: why? whats the problem with ubotu?
[04:59] <`Jessica> rausb0: the link that ubotu is giving out about nvidia doesn't work for edgy eft. This link does: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy
[04:59] <kalila> a little help is really appreciated, I can;t even browse the web because X won't start...
[04:59] <xroach> whats wrong when trying to use 6.10 live cd it loads and then comes black screen? and the cd is tested and works
[04:59] <gnome_guy> clemyeats, which version of mandriva, has 3d effect, desktop cube etc, by default ?
[04:59] <rausb0> `Jessica: i see
[04:59] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: Mandriva One 2007
[04:59] <Bokeh|Away> sorry ian :)
[05:00] <`Jessica> rausb0: if you follow the instructions ubotu gives out now for nvidia on edgy eft you'll seriously screw things up
[05:00] <jokoon> does edgy eft make so much trouble I heard ?
[05:00] <Bokeh> been a while since i was on irc, never had a problem with it
[05:00] <snooplsm> has anyone ever installed a cvs server?
[05:00] <rausb0> `Jessica: oh :/
[05:00] <gnome_guy> clemyeats, hopefully, we might see that in Fawn :P
[05:00] <gnome_guy> Friesty Fawn
[05:00] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: I reviewed it here if you're interested: http://www.linuxforums.org/reviews/mandriva_2007_review.html
[05:00] <kevb> anyone use vino (Remote Desktop) in Edgy yet??
[05:00] <`Jessica> rausb0: the link I gave you has instructions on how to get nvidia going with a fresh install of edgy eft, it took me five minutes
[05:00] <rausb0> `Jessica: not using edgy yet, i didn't know that
[05:00] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: hopefully.
[05:01] <percy4jeddah> excuse me?   i would like to ask why i always get errors everytime i type in the terminal "sudo apt-get update"?
[05:01] <`Jessica> rausb0: is there someone I can e-mail about this?
[05:01] <snooplsm> maybe you have a bad url in your sources list
[05:01] <chfang> exit
[05:01] <rausb0> `Jessica: sorry, don't know. maybe ask here who can change factoids of ubuto.
[05:02] <gnome_guy> clemyeats,  well, it was nice talking to you. :)
[05:02] <snooplsm> this chan has mad people in it.
[05:02] <kevb> anyone use vino (Remote Desktop) in Edgy yet??
[05:02] <masterninja> What are the two commads to install Nvidia drivers in the terminal?
[05:02] <comstat> try w3m or links to browse the web
[05:02] <clemyeats> gnome_guy: same here.
[05:03] <masterninja> i think its nvidia x-config
[05:03] <kevb> NVIDIA INSTALL FAQ: http://albertomilone.com/latest_nvidia_udsf_edgy.html
[05:03] <clemyeats> I see you guys.
[05:03] <`Jessica> kevb: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy
[05:03] <masterninja> kk thx
[05:03] <Pockets> Yay for Enlightenment.
[05:03] <kevb> sorry, yeah, that was down last time i looked Jessica
[05:03] <xroach> whats wrong when trying to use 6.10 live cd it loads and then comes black screen? and the cd is tested and works
[05:04] <osfameron> how do I go about getting Hibernate to work in Edgy?
[05:04] <kevb> so... anyone managed Remote Desktop with Edgy yet?
[05:04] <osfameron> I was hoping it would Just Work after upgrade from Dapper
[05:04] <osfameron> but no such luck
[05:04] <osfameron> it gives an error message during the hibernate process, and then just switches off
[05:04] <osfameron> !hibernate
[05:04] <ubotu> hibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[05:05] <`Jessica> kevb: I'm working on that right now. :)
[05:05] <kevb> `Jessica: Working on a patch or on getting your own working?
[05:05] <kmaynard> sweet, installing hibernate now
[05:05] <Actaviosan> Guys.
[05:05] <Actaviosan> Can anyone help me ?
[05:06] <kmaynard> i didnt know it was ats own package
[05:06] <`Jessica> kevb: working on getting one of the out-of-the-box solutions to work
[05:06] <osfameron> oh, at least sleep still works
[05:06] <`Jessica> :)
[05:06] <osfameron> neither did I
[05:06] <Actaviosan> I just got the free 10 cd's of ubuntu, it says to use it as live cd, insert the cd and reboot your comp.
[05:06] <Actaviosan> I did just that, and windows showed up again and again, but no ubuntu.
[05:06] <osfameron> hibernate does *something* when you click on it from the "shutdown" menu
[05:06] <Actaviosan> Can anybody help?
[05:06] <john-l> The <asm/io.h> header includes <linux/string.h>, which is not found by the compiler even though I have linux headers installed.  Shouldn't there be a symlink into the linux headers set up somewhere?
[05:06] <kmaynard> osfameron: yeah, it kills my pc :)
[05:06] <Actaviosan> Anyone PLEASE?
[05:07] <Tim90> is it posable to chnage a file so it opens with xmms player instead of totem witch does not work
[05:07] <kevb> `Jessica: Can you PM if you have any success and I will stay lurking?
[05:07] <MarcN> Actaviosan: well what happens when you reboot?
[05:07] <osfameron> kmaynard: yeah :-)
[05:07] <kmaynard> Actaviosan: did you install it?
[05:07] <`Jessica> Actaviosan: you need to change your bios to boot from CD
[05:07] <Pockets> tim90: Preferred applications thingie
[05:07] <Actaviosan> I did not,
[05:07] <john-l> Actaviosan: You may need to configure your BIOS to boot from the optical drive.
[05:07] <Actaviosan> I want to use it as live cd.
[05:07] <`Jessica> kevb: sure hon :)
[05:07] <Actaviosan> Oh
[05:07] <Actaviosan> I will check that, thanks.
[05:07] <osfameron> kmaynard: though to be fair, my dv1000 lappy has been ropey for power management running WinXP and SuSE SLED too
[05:07] <Tim90> Pockets:please tell me were that is
[05:07] <MarcN> Actaviosan: live cd means you boot from the cd
[05:07] <Actaviosan> I'll be right back.
[05:07] <Actaviosan> yes sir I forgot :P
[05:07] <Actaviosan> Brb.
[05:08] <tim__b> Tim90, right click a file b
[05:08] <tim__b> infile browser
[05:08] <osfameron> aha.  hibernate isn't an "official" script
[05:08] <kmaynard> osfameron: sleep/hibernate usually sucks unless you use a mac.
[05:08] <kevb> `Jessica: Thx, I can't do much as I'm away from the machine that I need to connect to : )
[05:08] <tim__b> Tim90, properties -> Open with
[05:08] <osfameron> kmaynard: true - I've been impressed with that at least on gf's ibook
[05:08] <kmaynard> yar
[05:08] <Pockets> doh, none of my menus are synced.
[05:09] <Tim90>  tim__b:yeh ,but when open it agian next time i will have to click properties blah blah blah
[05:10] <tec> how do i take screen shots in xfce?
[05:10] <tim__b> Tim90, for me it's saves default application
[05:10] <MukiEX> Looking for MDNSResponder , anyone know what happened to that package in edgy?
[05:11] <rausb0> tec: got imagemagick installed? then open a terminal and type: import -window root shot.png
[05:11] <Pockets> hm
[05:11] <Pockets> I am really digging this Ebuntu deallie.
[05:11] <Tim90>  tim__b:i dont want to have to do it with every file i own
[05:11] <`Jessica> kevb: try this
[05:11] <`Jessica> kevb: http://www.tuxmachines.org/taxonomy/term/98
[05:11] <tim__b> Tim90, nope, just once for a file type
[05:11] <tec> i dont have that  is there annother way?
[05:12] <tim__b> Tim90, testet it a second ago
[05:12] <rausb0> tec: why not install it? imagemagick is not so big.
[05:12] <KenSentMe> I'm trying to compile the Diva video editor. It asks for gstreamer0.10.4-plugins-base to be installed. That package is installed, but i still can't compile it. Any ideas what to do?
[05:12] <anilomkar>  When i am trying to install Jboss server "java -jar jboss-4.0.3SP1-installer.jar" then it is displaying error message like "Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit"
[05:12] <Tim90>  tim__b:Thank you :)
[05:13] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: may i pm you for a minute
[05:13] <Elko> is there any info on mplayer and amarokapp giving a symbol lookup error like: /usr/lib/libglide3.so.3: undefined symbol: __LINE__?
[05:13] <Elko> with edgy
[05:13] <mtlife> hi, anyone here with a bit knowledge about cups and pdf and samba?
[05:14] <Tim90> is it posable to have you files monted auomatically  mount /media/winxp
[05:14] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: of course
[05:14] <|Q|> im looking for a windows xp patch , im in the good chan for this
[05:14] <|Q|> ?
[05:14] <|Q|> hihi
[05:14] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: ty
[05:14] <ompaul> !offtopic
[05:14] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:14] <kevb> `Jessica: which article?
[05:15] <ompaul> |Q|, this is not a windows support channel please try ##windows
[05:15] <cheeseruler> LaughingoutLoud
[05:15] <|Q|> lols
[05:15] <cheeseruler> can i get norton here?? for ubuntu??
[05:15] <cheeseruler> got virus
[05:15] <JuJuBee> Can someone please help me with an install question about custom partitions?
[05:15] <Pockets> What's a good WinXP patch? :P
[05:15] <Pockets> JuJuBee: You might have better luck if you asked it.
[05:15] <cheeseruler> i think its blaster virus
[05:15] <john-l> Pockets: Installing Ubuntu?
[05:15] <lnx^> why are my fonts messed up in openoffice?
[05:16] <JuJuBee> While installing (using manually edit partition table), how do I set a part bootable?
[05:16] <Pockets> john-|: As in am I?  Or should you?  Ambiguous request!
[05:16] <ompaul> cheeseruler, no, and you can't get that on ubuntu - please go to a windows forum for that kind of help
[05:16] <mtlife> Can anyone help me with printing pdf files, the printer cant seem to print pdf files right. They are not centered and autoscaled..
[05:16] <|Q|sUperNerd> Operating System: WinXP Professional 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build #2600)
[05:16] <lnx^> the fonts look a little ugly + the spaces inbetween letters is not enough
[05:16] <john-l> Pockets: No, as in a good Windows patch.  :)
[05:16] <cheeseruler> OS: WinXP Professional 5.1 SP1 (Build #2600) CPU: Intel Pentium 4 , 3.20 GHz, 512KB Video: Radeon 9800 Series (1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [E400]  Memory: Used: 598/1023MB Uptime: 4h 10m 55s HD: Free: 113.77 GB/528.93 GB Connection: 3Com Gigabit LOM (3C940) - Pakketplanner-minipoort @ 100.0 Mbps (Rec: 554.38MB Sent: 19.95MB)
[05:16] <tim__b> Tim90, try with:$ gnome-session-properties
[05:16] <Pockets> john-|: Ah!  Ubuntu+E :)
[05:16] <kevb> lnx^: Have you installed windows fonts? Is it a windows font you are viewing?
[05:16] <rausb0> cheeseruler: we do not support windows here
[05:16] <cheeseruler> ok
[05:16] <cheeseruler> sorry
[05:16] <Pockets> JuJu: In Gparted or Qtparted, or whatever you're using.  Look for "edit flags" or something similar.
[05:17] <JuJuBee> Dont see it (gparted).
[05:17] <lnx^> kevb: yes they are installed
[05:18] <lnx^> kevb: problem started when i upgraded to edgy
[05:18] <Tim90>  tim__b: is this for  mount /media/winxp
[05:18] <Pockets> JuJu: Right click the partition, I think.
[05:18] <kevb> lnx^: You upgraded them too?
[05:18] <lnx^> i don't know, version is 1.2ubuntu3
[05:18] <JuJuBee> I will try, but I dont think that did it.
[05:18] <lnx^> kevb: i suppose the manager upgraded them automatically if there were upgrades available
[05:18] <mtlife> hello, can anyone help me out with printing pdfs right?
[05:19] <kevb> lnx^: hmm, don't know... i used automatix
[05:19] <ompaul> !automatix
[05:19] <kevb> lnx^: no, only if you have the edgy repos for PLF
[05:19] <bobby_> Is there a k7 kernel for edgy? all i could see was generic and i386
[05:19] <ompaul> !plf
[05:19] <kevb> ?
[05:19] <alecjw> bobby_: generic replaces all of the kernels except 386
[05:19] <lnx^> plf?
[05:20] <Tim90> tim__b: What would the comand be for mount /media/winxp
[05:20] <rausb0> ubotu? where are you?
[05:20] <`Jessica> !vnc
[05:20] <lnx^> i have the universe repository
[05:20] <Zaggynl> -arg-
[05:20] <bobby_> but that cant be optimized, can it?
[05:20] <Zaggynl> is there NO ftp server WITH a normal gui?!
[05:20] <`Jessica> Zaggynl: gftp
[05:20] <Zaggynl> `Jessica, thanks
[05:21] <tim__b> Tim90, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:21] <alecjw> Zaggynl: Places>>COnnect to server
[05:21] <Zaggynl> alecjw, SERVER, not client
[05:21] <mtlife> hello can i get some help here?
[05:21] <locoblade> hey bokeh got it working!
[05:21] <mtlife> im a bit frustrated already..
[05:21] <locoblade> oh it's mark btw
[05:21] <kevb> lnx^: check your /etc/apt/sources.lst see if you have a repository from freenode.net
[05:21] <alecjw> Zaggynl: oops. sorrt - try purftp - there's a CLI and GUI administrator
[05:21] <Zaggynl> gftp is also a client :P
[05:21] <lnx^> kevb: i don't
[05:22] <alecjw> *pureftp
[05:22] <kmaynard> mtlife: first, chill. second, what program are you using to print?
[05:22] <Zaggynl> pureftp I just tried, the gui isn't powerfull, can't even set up the ports, also my users keep dissappearing after crating
[05:22] <Actaviosan> Thanks guys
[05:22] <Actaviosan> It worked great.
[05:22] <Zaggynl> i'll try out kasablanca
[05:22] <Actaviosan> UBUNTU IS AWESOME. For the first time in my life I use linux :D
[05:22] <`Jessica> Actaviosan: np, our pleasure
[05:22] <bobby_> Welcome aboard Actaviosan
[05:22] <snooplsm> wait until your try swt Actaviosan
[05:22] <kevb> lnx^: kk, personally I would install Automatix... some here wouldn't
[05:22] <Zaggynl> oh, crap also a client
[05:22] <snooplsm> then you will wish you had windows
[05:22] <alecjw> bobby_: in some starnde way, it is :D i think it detects your arch and uses the approprite kernel but i'm not sure
[05:22] <kmaynard> kevb: ditto
[05:23] <Actaviosan> lol :D
[05:23] <Actaviosan> I have windows, am not gonna install ubuntu, I will use it as live cd
[05:23] <kevb> lnx^: http://www.getautomatix.com/
[05:23] <Actaviosan> if I install it will there be other features ?
[05:23] <mtlife> kmaynard: well i'm just trying to print alot of pdf's at once with lpr, first tried one to make sure it prints pdfs right.. but the scale is way off, and the pdf is not centered and cropped which makes me lose text
[05:23] <snooplsm> thats weak sauce
[05:23] <bobby_> gotta research that further alecjw, thanks
[05:23] <rausb0> Zaggynl: IMHO servers don't need gui at all. there are documented config files, there are text editors. that's the way to do it.
[05:23] <`Jessica> !vnc
[05:23] <jorgp> anyone read the upgrade slam on edgy posted by slashdot.org
[05:23] <tapas> ok, how is the standard operator== defined for classes which do not define their own?
[05:23] <mtlife> kmaynard: tried adobe reader, it prints better then lpr but still cropped wrong
[05:23] <kmaynard> mtlife: why not print from Adobe Reader?
[05:23] <St_MPA3b> how can i delete file from conlose?
[05:23] <St_MPA3b> how can i delete file from conlose?
[05:23] <kmaynard> ah
[05:23] <jurp5> !flash9
[05:23] <Zaggynl> and that's why linux still isn't popular, all those hardcore CLI people, ugh
[05:23] <rausb0> `Jessica: ubotu seems to be dead..
[05:24] <tapas> or where can i read about that?
[05:24] <mtlife> and acroread doesnt support multiple file printing..
[05:24] <H0110Wman> !flash9
[05:24] <Actaviosan> Guys, if I install ubuntu will there be more features other than being a live cd ?
[05:24] <Zaggynl> I don't have my mouse because I think it's cute
[05:24] <locoblade> where'd bokeh go?
[05:24] <St_MPA3b> how can i delete file from conlose?
[05:24] <jurp5> !flash9
[05:24] <`Jessica> YAY UBOTU! ^_^
[05:24] <snooplsm> rm
[05:24] <kmaynard> mtlife: is your printer supperted and your paper size set up right?
[05:24] <`Jessica> !vnc
[05:24] <snooplsm> rm file.txt
[05:24] <`Jessica> ubotu: tell me about vnc
[05:24] <gilnim> does somebody know derive?
[05:24] <jorgp> Actaviosan, what features are you looking for?
[05:24] <snooplsm> to delete folders you have to tell it to recursively delete each item rm -R folder
[05:24] <alecjw> Actaviosan: yes. for one, you can keep your files even if you restart. also, its a lot faster
[05:24] <lnx^> kevb: what can it do now after i have upgraded to edgy? does it just check what packages i have and then it installs a lot more?
[05:25] <gilnim> !hi
[05:25] <voiCe__> hi all
[05:25] <mtlife> kmaynard, its a brother hl1430 and it is supported.. it prints everything right but pdf and ps
[05:25] <mtlife> kmaynard, wouldnt be a problem if i could print via windows.. but the same thing happens.. no ps or pdf support
[05:25] <kevb> lnx^: It is menu driven, it will list what is available to install
[05:25] <gilnim> poor ubotu!
[05:25] <`Jessica> !vnc > `Jessica
[05:25] <kmaynard> no pdf support in windows? wtf?
[05:26] <mtlife> kmaynard, settings are
[05:26] <mtlife> job-sheets=none,none printer-info='Brother HL-1430 Laser Printer' printer-is-accepting-jobs=1 printer-is-shared=1 printer-make-and-model='Brother HL-1430 Foomatic/hl1250 (recommended)' printer-state=3 printer-state-change-time=1162225112 printer-state-reasons=none printer-type=143364 MediaType=Plain PageSize=A4 PageRegion=A4
[05:26] <gilnim> !hi
[05:26] <jurp5> !flash9
[05:26] <kevb> lnx^: Includes windows fonts, codecs + other stuff e.g. skype
[05:26] <kmaynard> paper size a4? should it be letter?
[05:26] <`Jessica> kevb: what does
[05:26] <gilnim> i wonder why ubotu is not working?
[05:27] <Mehercle> ubuto is a little bit tired
[05:27] <antonia> antonia
[05:27] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:27] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:27] <mtlife> kmaynard, set both pageregion and pagesize to us letter but still the pdf file is printed incorrect
[05:27] <kevb> `Jessica: Automatix
[05:27] <rellis> Anyone know if these's an apt repository with an apache 2.2 build for ubuntu 6.06 Dapper?
[05:28] <kevb> `Jessica: What am I looking for in that link btw
[05:28] <`Jessica> !freenx > `Jessica
[05:28] <`Jessica> kevb: wait one
[05:28] <mtlife> kmaynard, i miss the top and the left part of the document
[05:28] <cheeseruler> http://www.mudfall.com/
[05:28] <kevb> kk
[05:28] <doluu> is it possible to install Dapper on Sun Enterprise 3500?
[05:28] <mtlife> kmaynard, when i print from windows it will say something like "offending thingie .namestring"
[05:29] <`Jessica> brb, fire drill
[05:29] <kanzie> Im having problems with making Dia on my Ubuntu Dapper
[05:29] <gilnim> ok ... ubotu has a little delay of one minute
[05:29] <doluu> I've done some search, but can't find any appreciate info
[05:29] <kevb> doluu: What architecture is that?
[05:29] <doluu> ultrasparc v9
[05:29] <ianmacgregor> kanzie: You're compiling dia?
[05:30] <kevb> doluu: I'm not sure but I think it might not be supported
[05:30] <Gasten> omg... Firefox crashed!
[05:30] <doluu> I've found that fibe channel support in linux is very poor
[05:30] <Gasten> I were on a m$-page thou...
[05:30] <kevb> doluu: I know the newer ultrasparc is but I'm not sure about that
[05:31] <kmaynard> mtlife: your paper size is A4...should it be letter?
[05:31] <doluu> why do you think that it isn't supported?
[05:31] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows a .deb for kvsftpdmanager ? I can't find a working
[05:31] <luisbg> how can I play dvd's that are copy-protected in ubuntu? vlc doesn't work :S
[05:31] <mtlife> kmaynard: no i print on an A4, and I changed it to letter. printed again, didnt make a difference
[05:31] <kanzie> ianmacgregor: Yes, at least trying
[05:31] <kevb> doluu: It is not the same as the niagara right? I have only heard of support for that... I may be wrong
[05:31] <janbanan> Why do they still have the ugly widgets in firefox 2? Is it possible to install those pretty ones that can be found on the forum?
[05:32] <kanzie> ianmacgregor: The difference between 0.94, that I have in my synaptic, and 0.95.1 is essential
[05:32] <ianmacgregor> kanzie: Why are you compiling dia? Did you know that dia is in the universe repo?
[05:32] <doluu> kevb: tnx anyway
[05:32] <ianmacgregor> kanzie: Ahh, ok
[05:32] <kanzie> ianmacgregor: only 0.94
[05:32] <teicah> can someone please help me send mail to outside emails?  I have dialup.  I pasted my configs http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29382/
[05:32] <teicah> i use mutt
[05:33] <kmaynard> mtlife: bad PDFs?
[05:33] <teicah> it seems the my hostname gets appended to emails and my relayhost refuses to take it
[05:33] <kanzie> I get: configure:2475: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:34] <mtlife> kmaynard, no they are not.. i succesfully printed them @ work
[05:34] <kmaynard> just checking
[05:34] <mtlife> kmaynard, if i try to print from windows, to the samba printer it doesnt print at all..
[05:34] <kmaynard> oh, you're printing to a samba printer
[05:35] <kmaynard> you've probably got your printer configged wrong
[05:35] <mtlife> kmaynard, yes that what i'm trying to do now.. but it doesnt print from command line either
[05:35] <`Jessica> kevb: have you tried the vnc package that's available in the package manager?
[05:35] <mtlife> kmaynard, it does prints doc files and plain text, no pdf unfortunately
[05:35] <kmaynard> that's a cups problem.
[05:36] <kevb> `Jessica: I need to connect to the desktop thats already running though : )
[05:36] <kmaynard> time to google
[05:36] <kevb> `Jessica: vncserver will create a new x session
[05:36] <ianmacgregor> Am I correct in assuming that the only updates Dapper will recieve now are security updates?
[05:36] <`Jessica> oohhh
[05:36] <MasseR> So now my mmc card reader doesn't work in edgy -.-
[05:37] <mtlife> kmaynard: already googled alot, only thing i can find about printing pdf is how to install a pdf printer, which is not what i want
[05:37] <aaronc> performing the edgy upgrade... anyone done this and been happy?
[05:37] <MasseR> aaronc: Me
[05:37] <aaronc> MasseR: It went well eh?
[05:37] <termleech> i just upgrade to edgy and am having some trouble, when i try and log into gnome, I get an error message that gnome-settings-manager couldn't start
[05:37] <reon> Where can I upload a file temp for 48hrs similair to pastebin ???
[05:37] <MasseR> aaronc: Yes
[05:37] <gnomefreak> aaronc: use the update-manager and you should have little to no problems
[05:37] <`Jessica> kevb: let me check. the one I just installed seems to do what you want.
[05:37] <Trist_an> I have a question on samba. Here it is my configuration for a folder and if I browse thfough the network to try to access my folder it can see it but it says that it cannot access it
[05:37] <Trist_an> Here it is the link : http://pastebin.ca/229324
[05:37] <termleech> the error was unable to determine the the address of the message bus
[05:37] <kmaynard> mtlife: you need cups help, not pdf. sounds like a driver problem.
[05:38] <termleech> i've tried everything i could find on the forums, but nothing fixed it
[05:38] <mtlife> kmaynard, can you help me with that?
[05:38] <termleech> and help would be much appreciated
[05:38] <kevb> `Jessica: did you see the bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/65795
[05:38] <aaronc> gnomefreak: well... its a little late for that... I changed the sources.list and did apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:38] <teicah> can someone please help me send mail to outside emails?  I have dialup.  I pasted my configs http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29382/
[05:38] <gca> irc.mongueurs.net
[05:38] <gnomefreak> aaronc: well if you had ubuntu-desktop installed you should be ok unless you had compiz/zgl installed
[05:39] <aaronc> uh yeah... I noticed that compiz/zgl was probably going to break
[05:39] <aaronc> no biggie
[05:39] <kmaynard> mtlife: no more than google or the cups printer database can. i've used smb printers, and i've seen what bad drivers can do (hint: it aint pretty). can you hook the printer up directly to your win box long enough to print your pdf's?
[05:39] <gnomefreak> aaronc: the upgrade will break
[05:39] <gnomefreak> aaronc: not compiz.zgl
[05:39] <gnomefreak> xgl
[05:39] <`Jessica> kevb: I just installed one and it seems to work
[05:39] <mtlife> kmaynard, seems to be the only option
[05:39] <mtlife> kmaynard, tx anyway...
[05:40] <gnomefreak> aaronc: libgl1-mesa-glx is a higher version than in ubuntu. apt-get cant downgrade it. the update-manager was fixed to downgrade it
[05:40] <kevb> `Jessica: But you can't remember what it is? : )
[05:40] <reon> Where can I upload a file temp for 48hrs similair to pastebin ???
[05:41] <`Jessica> kevb: what port does vnc use?
[05:41] <kevb> `Jessica: 5900 default
[05:41] <`Jessica> 5900 right
[05:41] <`Jessica> one sec
[05:42] <kevb> `Jessica: lsof -i :5900
[05:42] <c0nf> [18:41:11]  <ubuntu> dude
[05:42] <c0nf> [18:41:16]  <ubuntu> can u ask @ #ubuntu this:
[05:42] <c0nf> [18:41:24]  <ubuntu> "i dont have 005 dir on /dev/bus/usb .. why?"
[05:42] <Tim90> Hey my recycle bin has dissapeared
[05:42] <jorgp> Tim90, lol, thats funny
[05:43] <c0nf> [18:41:24]  <ubuntu> "i dont have 005 dir on /dev/bus/usb .. why?"
[05:43] <c0nf> :o
[05:43] <Tim90> jorgp:its true
[05:44] <Tim90> lol
[05:44] <kanzie> can someone help me compile dia for ubuntu dapper?
[05:44] <Tim90> do i need a reboot ?
[05:44] <Tim90> to get my bin back
[05:45] <[H] 3b0R> hey ive had since ive installed edgy eft, problems with apt, i sthere anyway to somehow kinda reset apt? like deleting all configs and such?
[05:45] <dustin> hey there
[05:45] <xroach> could someone help with livecd broblem
[05:46] <dustin> what is the best way to "ghost my hard drive?
[05:46] <dustin> xroach, what up?
[05:46] <fdoving> dustin: get a livecd with partimage
[05:47] <kmaynard> [H] 3b0R: check your sources.list file...what repository you using? if it's us.archive.blahblahblah, try removing the 'us.' part
[05:47] <dustin> fdoving, that is to copy an image of my hard drive to back it up right?
[05:47] <xroach> dustin well i downloaded edgy live cd and installed it on my comp, now that when im installit from the same cd to my laptop it loads for while then comes black screen,
[05:48] <[H] 3b0R> kmaynard: ive done that but all kinds of config seems to be "infected" by this problem
[05:48] <kmaynard> did you run apt-get update?
[05:48] <[H] 3b0R> yes
[05:48] <kmaynard> paste your sources file to pastebin
[05:48] <[H] 3b0R> a long nice lists of errors
[05:49] <dustin> xroach, is your laptop 192 MB or better,   what video chipset do you have?
[05:49] <rellis> Does anyone know in which packages the files from /etc/apache2 are kept?
[05:49] <rellis> I need to reinstall..
[05:49] <[H] 3b0R> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29384/plain/
[05:50] <xroach> dustin yes it is and 6.06 worked fine but i decided to do a clean edgy so.....
[05:50] <MukiEX> Does anyone know what the [ack]  happened to mdnsresponder in edgy?
[05:50] <MukiEX> this is frustrating
[05:50] <kmaynard> rellis: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=apache2&version=edgy&arch=i386
[05:50] <jaks> hellooo ubuntu users
[05:50] <snooplsm> what this is ubuntu channel?
[05:50] <rellis> kmaynard: Yep, I just did the apache2-cmmon and got it.
[05:50] <rellis> kmaynard: Thanks though.
[05:50] <jaks> does edgy amd64 have the multi-arch support they were talking about when it started?
[05:50] <kmaynard> [H] 3b0R: edgy-proposed?
[05:50] <[H] 3b0R> kmaynard: it do not fail all the times... but mostly
[05:51] <apokryphos> jaks: no
[05:51] <[H] 3b0R> kmaynard: yes?
[05:51] <jaks> i'll stick with dapper then
[05:51] <apokryphos> jaks: I think it's being postponed for feisty, but can't be sure.
[05:51] <St_MPA3b>   
[05:51] <jaks> okays, thanks apokryphos
[05:51] <kmaynard> [H] 3b0R: you've got some unofficial repos in there...which one is failing?
[05:52] <apokryphos> St_MPA3b: utf-8 only please
[05:52] <[H] 3b0R> kmaynard: all the official ones...
 just kidding
[05:52] <mahmoud2> hello, had anyone had a problem with edgy's sound output? when playing music or movies, the sound plays faster. in addition to the sound being fast it also hiccups every 2 seconds or so
[05:52] <mahmoud2> this did not happen in dapper
[05:53] <kmaynard> [H] 3b0R: for comparison: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29385/
[05:53] <dustin> bahh    xroach   honestly i have the same problem.    i think my cd is scratched or the iso didn
[05:53] <dustin> download right
[05:53] <FRET> hey all
[05:53] <ifrozen> hi
[05:54] <kevb> `Jessica: gtg home from work now, I'll be back in an hour if your still around
[05:54] <kmaynard> [H] 3b0R: back yours up, try mine, and see what happens
[05:54] <kevb> bye all
[05:54] <angeleyes> hey
[05:55] <joeljkp> is there a command that will give me my outside ip address (i'm behind a NAT)
[05:55] <angeleyes> hmm i try an install drivers but i kan not run it ...wath kan i do
[05:56] <kmaynard> joeljkp: try going to ipchicken.com
[05:56] <mahmoud2> hello, had anyone had a problem with edgy's sound output? when playing music or movies, the sound plays faster. in addition to the sound being fast it also hiccups every 2 seconds or so. this did not happen in dapper. also when playing an mp3 in mpg123, no hiccups occur but the sound is faster
[05:56] <[H] 3b0R> kmaynard: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29386/plain/ happends to yours to....
[05:56] <PecisDarbs> where I can download Xubuntu Edgy?
[05:56] <PecisDarbs> or it is still not released?
[05:56] <inimesekene> hey i have here this problem... that some of my controls themes don't work as they should
[05:56] <pradeep> !xubuntu
[05:56] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:56] <kmaynard> [H] 3b0R: did you replace your entire list, or append mine to yours?
[05:57] <pradeep> PecisDarbs, ^
[05:57] <joeljkp> kmaynard: yeah, but this is going in a script
[05:57] <[H] 3b0R> kmaynard: replaced whole the list...
[05:57] <PecisDarbs> pradeep: thanks man
[05:57] <angeleyes> kan u install cs 1.6 on linux
[05:57] <kmaynard> [H] 3b0R: thats odd...i never have a problem
[05:57] <pradeep> :) np
[05:58] <angeleyes> i kan not install games or drivers is it software or no
[05:58] <[H] 3b0R> kmaynard: its seems like i have to rebuild the whole apt config, not the sources.list file
[05:58] <jaks> angeleyes: yes. go to www.winehq.com
[05:59] <kmaynard> [H] 3b0R: dpkg-reconfigure apt
[05:59] <St_MPA3b> !mercurial
[05:59] <ubotu> mercurial: Scalable distributed version control system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 311 kB, installed size 1572 kB
[06:00] <lnx^> does anyone have the libfreetype.so.6 from dapper?
[06:00] <lnx^> i'd need it to temporarily fix my OO in edgy
[06:00] <lnx^> (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/54776)
[06:00] <laz45> Hello guys where the hell is the kernel source directory????
[06:00] <argiopeweb> Okay, I was dist-upgrading, and I lost powere.  Now I can't boot my computer. It says "Mounting / partition..." or somesuch, and then it goes to a black screen and freezes.  It appears to have deleted old, so I can't boot into that either.  DO y'all know how to get myself out of this one?
[06:01] <St_MPA3b> !universe
[06:01] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:01] <yrlnry> Boot from CD and try to repair the filesystem and the boot blocks?
[06:01] <kmaynard> laz45: have you installed it?
[06:01] <laz45> no
[06:01] <St_MPA3b> !easysource
[06:01] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:01] <inimesekene> nvm got it to work now
[06:02] <Mariolink> Hey,I've just downloaded Ubuntu and copied onto a CD and tried installing it. It boots from the CD but it just goes into a black screen after pressing install
[06:02] <Mariolink> Got a 64 bit processor...
[06:02] <argiopeweb> yrlnry: I think the FS is fine, but the OS is all mixed up.  Can I dwnload the alternate edgy CD and upgrade from there?
[06:02] <_tarzan_> im trying to make a grub boot floppy that works as the one installed on hda anyone knows how to do it?, so far grub only installs the grub shell but not the boot menu
[06:02] <Nyto-RJ> Hi guys... 6.06 or 6.10??
[06:02] <kmaynard> !kernel
[06:02] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:02] <laz45> So how do you install kernel source?
[06:03] <Mariolink> I downloaded the 64 AMD version
[06:03] <Nyto-RJ> i think 6.10 have a lot of bugs still
[06:03] <kmaynard> laz45: what are you wanting to do, compile your own?
[06:03] <argiopeweb> 6.10 has been officially released, therefore it is relatively stable...
[06:04] <laz45> I have to recompile the wireless driver
[06:04] <Nyto-RJ> yes
[06:04] <Tomcat_> Nyto-RJ: ack :o
[06:04] <sharms> Mariolink: if you have an amd64, and you downloaded the amd64 bit version and it isn't working, download the -alternative iso and try that
[06:04] <karlp_> I just did apt-get install ssh vncserver xfonts-base xterm and it has gone and install laptop-detect? what's with that?
[06:04] <[H] 3b0R> kmaynard: thx, now everything seems to go smoothly:)
[06:04] <PhinnFort> the update process was interrupted because the machine heated, and now xorg won't start...
[06:04] <Nyto-RJ> but i have 6.06 still on my laptop and i upgraded my dektop to 6.10
[06:04] <argiopeweb> laz45: Using one of those mini-pci cards?
[06:04] <jaks> Nyto-RJ: 6.10 is released, so pretty much stable and fine, but 6.06 is very stable now and will have long length of support. depends if you want stability, or new things.
[06:04] <kmaynard> mm hmm
[06:04] <Mirro> which tex editor would  you suggest for Gnome?
[06:04] <PhinnFort> is it possible to continue the process?
[06:04] <Nyto-RJ> 6.10 still have som issues
[06:04] <kmaynard> !wireless
[06:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:04] <`Jessica> so can anyone tell me about that vino bug?
[06:04] <sharms> Nyto-RJ: like what?
[06:04] <laz45> argiopeweb: No its a bcm43xx card
[06:05] <`Jessica> and is there a fix yet?
[06:05] <Nyto-RJ> the clock thing
[06:05] <kmaynard> !wireless > laz45
[06:05] <argiopeweb> laz45: If it's a 43xx, you shouldn't have to recompile anything.
[06:05] <Nyto-RJ> firefox thing
[06:05] <benlake> is there a means of seeing options when installing a package?
[06:05] <Mariolink> Sharms: Is it possible for me to use the 32 bit version? If it is would u recommend it?
[06:05] <Nyto-RJ> but its great
[06:05] <jaks> laz45: recompile the bcm43xx driver? it should be there and do it all for you
[06:05] <EagleSW> hey hello I have a question can someone assist me ?
[06:05] <laz45> argiopeweb: jaks:  I want to add a feature :)
[06:05] <kmaynard> !ask
[06:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:05] <sharms> Mariolink: all my desktop amd64 machines are running 32-bit, because I like flash
[06:05] <EagleSW> okay
[06:06] <Mariolink> ok
[06:06] <argiopeweb> laz45: Whish one, out of curiosity...
[06:06] <sharms> Nyto-RJ: as far as I know firefox is working just fine?
[06:06] <jaks> laz45: ah right
[06:06] <laz45> argiopeweb: Packet Injection
[06:06] <argiopeweb> laz45: lol, okay...
[06:06] <argiopeweb> :\
[06:06] <Nyto-RJ> Is everything working thine for you SHARMS????
[06:07] <Nyto-RJ> maybe its somepackages that i installed
[06:07] <sharms> Nyto-RJ: you won't notice any difference really, that is the great thing about amd64 is you can install a 32-bit distro just like any other processor
[06:07] <swamptu> what package do i need to connect to a remote ubuntu box?
[06:07] <`Jessica> hey, anyone got the link for that vino bug?
[06:07] <`Jessica> ubotu: tell me about vino
[06:07] <sharms> swamptu: command line: just ssh
[06:07] <anette_> hey, can someone tell me if there is a pango-devel for ubuntu?
[06:07] <Nyto-RJ> check the clock???
[06:07] <swamptu> i need remote desktop graphical
[06:07] <sharms> swamptu: for a remote desktop, you can do it over ssh, or you can use Nx which is what I use
[06:07] <laz45> So apt-get kernel source?
[06:07] <benlake> Anyone run TLS on the default pure-ftpd package?
[06:08] <anette_> hey, can someone tell me if there is a pango-devel for ubuntu?
[06:08] <EagleSW> well I have Kubuntu installed on , and I have a win xp box , and I want to share the internet access from the kubuntu box I have a switch and cable internet connection (ip dynamic)
[06:08] <EagleSW> how can I share the internet connection to the win xp box ?
[06:08] <cheeseruler> .
[06:08] <sharms> !tell swamptu about nx
[06:08] <Nyto-RJ> Sharms: Right click ajusta date!!! See if opens bugs report
[06:08] <Nyto-RJ> ?
[06:08] <teicah> anette_: sudo apt-cache search pango|grep dev
[06:09] <sharms> swamptu: if those install instructions don't work for you, you can message me, but my response time will not be quite as quick as this channel
[06:09] <EagleSW> well ? :\
[06:09] <sharms> Nyto-RJ: ah I believe I ran into that also
[06:09] <kozmic> Just upgraded ubuntu to 6.10 from 6.06. GDM comes up, but when i log in to gnome from gdm, the startup sound is played, but nothing else loads. all i see is the background image, and i can move the mouse, but no menus etc are loaded. anyone know how to fix it?
[06:09] <laz45> Whats the apt-get command to get the kernel source
[06:09] <teicah> u may have 2: sudo apt-get update ... first
[06:09] <swamptu> sharms: thank you
[06:09] <anette_> teicah, thanks, the package i am looking for is pango X.. trying to install gnomad and it's not easy!
[06:09] <lnx^> what is wrong with the font hinting in edgy?!
[06:09] <kmaynard> laz45: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[06:10] <lnx^> and why wasn't it fixed before the final release? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/54776
[06:10] <EagleSW> noone knows how to share the internet connection to a win xp box ? :( from kubuntu latest version ?
[06:10] <alecjw> anyone know how i can get the raindrop effect with beryl?
[06:11] <kmaynard> EagleSW: sure, plug in a linksys router :)
[06:11] <jaks> EagleSW: i did it in Ubuntu with Firestarter from the reop's, not sure about Kubuntu thuogh.
[06:11] <EagleSW> I dont have money for a router
[06:11] <EagleSW> Kubuntu its same as ubuntu :)
[06:11] <kmaynard> you got 2 nics?
[06:11] <anette_> teicah, thanks, the pango X is now installed..:)
[06:11] <jaks> why would you need two nics?
[06:11] <Mariolink> Does Ubuntu have a MP3 Player or is it like Fedora where they removed it because of licens?
[06:12] <anette_> teicah, but now i get this: pangoxft Pango backend found but did not find freetype libraries
[06:12] <teicah> anette_: no problem
[06:12] <alecjw> Mariolink: you need to do this command:
[06:12] <EagleSW> well the kubuntu will be the server and the win xp is my personal computer :D
[06:12] <jaks> Mariolink: pretty much all distro's dont include it because of license.
[06:12] <Agrajag> !restrictedformats | Mariolink
[06:12] <ubotu> Mariolink: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:12] <laz45> kmaynard: I know how to make the wireless work :) I need the Kernel Source Directory So I can change the source of the bcm43xx driver.
[06:13] <jaks> EagleSW: give Firestarter a go, it worked very well for me on Hoary before i got a router
[06:13] <EagleSW> how can I give a go to firestarter ?
[06:13] <EagleSW> :)
[06:13] <EagleSW> can you please tell me ?
[06:13] <alecjw> Mariolink: make sure you have the uni and multiverse repose enbled then do this command in the terminal: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[06:13] <Centaur5> EagleSW: www.fon.com has a $5 wireless router
[06:14] <jaks> EagleSW: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[06:14] <EagleSW> I am from Romania here routers costs like 100$
[06:14] <Mariolink> alecjw does that also work in Fedora?
[06:14] <EagleSW> jaks : and it needs some configuring or something ?
[06:14] <kmaynard> laz45: maybe this will help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835
[06:14] <alecjw> Mariolink: no, it doesn't, only debian based distros
[06:14] <alecjw> like ubuntu
[06:14] <Nyto-RJ> Final question!!! What is better.Stick ti 6.06 or upgrade to 6.10???
[06:14] <jaks> EagleSW: probably. it's just one checkbox if i remember right
[06:14] <Mariolink> Thanks
[06:15] <St0nEdeaD> is anyone familiar with getting a usb key to mount automatically?
[06:15] <alecjw> does anyone know how i can get the raindrop effect in beryl?
[06:15] <Machtyn> is there a way to populate my Applications menu automatically?
[06:15] <St0nEdeaD> i have 2 usb keys, both used to automount automatically, and now only 1 is
[06:15] <St0nEdeaD> the other i have to mount manually
[06:15] <mahmoud2> Hello, can anyone help me about Edgy?
[06:15] <`Jessica> Does anyone know when the patch for vino will be out?
[06:15] <Machtyn> I've got some programs listed, but new software installed doesn't show up.  (using Dapper)
[06:16] <alecjw> anyone know how i can do this?
[06:16] <jaks> EagleSW: after you install it, there is a guide. first pick your internet conenction, on the next page, tick the box that says "Enable Internet Connection Sharing"
[06:17] <AlienX> Machtyn, update-menus
[06:17] <Mariolink> alecjw: U said i should have the uni and multiverse repose enabled... hwo do I do that?
[06:17] <Machtyn> AlienX: thanks
[06:17] <alecjw> Mariolink: are you using edgy or dapper?
[06:17] <AlienX> Machtyn, np
[06:18] <Mariolink> What is the difference?
[06:18] <angeleyes> is linux good??????
[06:18] <samu2> The upgrade-manager ran into an error halfway through when upgrading, now I can't start up my system anymore.
[06:18] <alecjw> Mariolink: one is the curent version of ubuntu and one is the pervious version :D
[06:18] <jaks> angeleyes: some say yes some say no. decide for yourself!
[06:18] <angeleyes> is linux good
[06:18] <angeleyes> ok tanks
[06:18] <masta> angeleyes: no, use winxp instead
[06:18] <Mariolink> Got 6.10
[06:18] <samu2> I DLed the 6.10 desktop install CD and when I start it up it has troubles too.
[06:18] <swamptu> is there a command to see what video drivers im using currently?
[06:19] <samu2> It keeps throwing me out to the login screen at random intervals it seems
[06:19] <masta> I boot into some busybox ash shell, anybody else too?
[06:19] <samu2> When logged in as the ubuntu user
[06:19] <samu2> Any ideas what's wrong?
[06:19] <swamptu> samu2: try the alternate install cd, works much better for some people
[06:20] <Farm_Fresh> I'm in the process of running an distribution upgrade... I thought I did a clean install of 6.01 beta... Must have burned the disk long ago?
[06:20] <alecjw> Mariolink: do you know which one you're using?
[06:20] <swamptu> samu2: i also had a bunch of problems with the desktop version, try the alternate  installer
[06:20] <samu2> I didn't really have anything important on my HD so I don't mind doing a fresh install (had already dist-upgraded my way up from 5.04 with some new errors accumulated every time)
[06:20] <kmaynard> samu2: you may wanna try the alternate install disk
[06:20] <angeleyes> hi
[06:20] <kmaynard> the desktop cd is way too much overhead
[06:20] <samu2> Ack, there was one more CD down the drain then. Well I'll try it.
[06:20] <Farm_Fresh> Man is the Dis upgrade SLOW
[06:20] <Mariolink> Alec I downloaded the 6.10 from the ubuntu.com homepage
[06:21] <samu2> I think maybe they've tried to do a bit too much with the desktop CD if they've managed to botch the basic functionality.
[06:21] <tiede> !anjuta
[06:21] <ubotu> anjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3760 kB
[06:21] <nashnash> xsane doesnt work for me ("resources to this device is denined") , will it help to try another scanning program? if yes, which? and not kooka i dunno how to use it ^^
[06:21] <lotheac> is it a bug if a Qt application tells me "locales not supported by X server"?
[06:22] <bobby_> !beryl
[06:22] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> samu2,  ive seen better 'live cd's' but the ubuntu one is good as an example/test drive  and isntaller  :) but theres much better out.
[06:22] <alecjw> Mariolink: go to System>>Administration>>Software Sources and tick the box whihc says "enable universe and multiverse repositories" or something to that effect
[06:22] <tich> for those people that use 'listen music player' -- does the ipod icon show up in the middle pane? i can never get it to and would love to know how.
[06:22] <LjL> masta: hopefully the "use winxp instead" was sarcastic ;-) but if the question was honest...
[06:22] <Mariolink> kewl thx alec
[06:22] <Farm_Fresh> Edgy have its own channel?
[06:22] <masta> LjL: it was
[06:23] <masta> sarcastic
[06:23] <Trist_an> Farm_Fresh, it's Edgy channel here
[06:23] <samu2> Dr_willis yeah I want to like it... it's a nice idea. But it's more important to have stuff that works well than "flashy" stuff. To me at least.
[06:23] <nashnash> xsane doesnt work for me ("resources to this device is denined") , will it help to try another scanning program? if yes, which? and not kooka i dunno how to use it ^^
[06:23] <administrator> okay I've install firestarter then what next ? what should I do ?
[06:23] <Dr_willis> samu2,  yep. been testing out live cd's in vmware. :) very handy for that.
[06:23] <Rookie> !upgrade
[06:23] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[06:23] <Farm_Fresh> Trist_an:  Ah thanks... why are the reops so slow?
[06:23] <LjL> angeleyes: we're in a Linux channel, we're bound to be biased towards Linux. please feel free to ask questions about Ubuntu support, but things like "is linux good" or "is it better than windows" are just... bound to not be productive here.
[06:24] <Trist_an> Farm_Fresh, don't know
[06:24] <alecjw> Mariolink: it should say that you need to refresh your software sources becuase they're out of date. let it do it. if it doesn't ask you, do sudo aptitude update in the terminal
[06:24] <anette_> anyone know how to get freestyle libraries??
[06:24] <Farm_Fresh> ~40k/s
[06:24] <NET||abuse> hey guys, on dapper here,, just trying to use kopete.. seems to have some issue with kde directories.. now i am on the default gnome desktop
[06:24] <EagleUbuntu> well can anyone tell me ?
[06:24] <NET||abuse> so i guess there's some deps or somesuch not being supported,,
[06:24] <anette_> anyone know how to get freestyle libraries??
[06:25] <tiede> hi. I can't seem to find how to compile and run a program in the new anjuta interface that came with edgy. Can't someone help me out with this?
[06:25] <MarcN> ubuntuforums.org down?
[06:25] <erchace> hi
[06:25] <erchace> what plone version has dapper?
[06:25] <Zaggynl> MarcN, yeahm I'm having that too :<
[06:25] <NET||abuse> the output from running kopete on command line   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29391/
[06:25] <Tim90> Helo Ladies and gantleman, Can i use my MCE remote for media in ubuntu.
[06:25] <NET||abuse> can anyone help me with this error?
[06:25] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows what I should do against this? : 'Fatal: Group: Unknown group 'nobody'. on line 20 of '/etc/proftpd.conf'
[06:26] <Farm_Fresh> My system freezes if I try to run firefox.. It'll run for a bit then locks everything up... Ideas?
[06:26] <DShepherd> erchace: aptitude show plone-site
[06:26] <indianaj> hi, how can i play mp3? totem doesn't work as it should
[06:26] <erchace> ok
[06:26] <anette_> anyone know how to get freestyle libraries??
[06:26] <DShepherd> erchace: its says 2.5.1-1 here..
[06:26] <erchace> uhmmm
[06:26] <erchace> ok
[06:27] <Tim90> indianaj: XMMS player is for you
[06:27] <indianaj> thanks
[06:27] <Tim90> welcome
[06:27] <eracc_> Hi all. If I install Squirrelmail on Dapper running Apache2 does it "just work" after running the /etc/squirrelmail/conf.pl script?
[06:28] <Tim90> any one able to use there MCE remot for media
[06:28] <erchace> on my dapper is Version: 2.1.2-2
[06:28] <erchace> :-S
[06:28] <DShepherd> erchace: srry.. I am on edgy..
[06:28] <samu2> Can I use the alternate install CD to access my home dir even though my previous install has been messed up?
[06:28] <YBH_1> how do I download the latest i686 Linux kernel in Edgy 6.10
[06:28] <YBH_1> ?
[06:28] <eracc_> If there is a wiki or web page for setting up Squirrelmail on an Ubuntu system please point me to that.
[06:28] <erchace> ahhh
[06:28] <erchace> well its a production server
[06:28] <samu2> Why aren't you googling for web pages...
[06:28] <erchace> i cant pass to edgy yet
[06:28] <anette_> anyone know how to get freestyle libraries??
[06:28] <anette_> edgy rocks!
[06:28] <erchace> bye and thanks for help
[06:29] <DShepherd> erchace: ok
[06:29] <alex_dinamo> Hello to everybody
[06:29] <Gotti> are the forums down right now?
[06:29] <kmaynard> eracc_, http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[06:29] <alex_dinamo> I've got some questions about the alternate install disk for Edgy...
[06:29] <Tim90> anette_:Shure does ,Rock on brother
[06:29] <DShepherd> is it possible to show the boot up details at the usplash?
[06:29] <alex_dinamo> I want to migrate en existing box to ubuntu
[06:30] <savvas> samu2: no, alternative cd is not a live cd
[06:30] <spiderworm> !upgrade
[06:30] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[06:30] <savvas> alternate even
[06:30] <eracc_> kmaynard, thanks. The server is running sendmail.
[06:30] <alex_dinamo> that is: I don't want to reformat all my partitions
[06:30] <spiderworm> edgy > dapper or does it have problems?
[06:30] <alex_dinamo> Seems like the partitioner on the alternate install disk is not very able
[06:30] <anette_> Tim90, yeah:)
[06:30] <segfault_> DShepherd, remove quiet or silent from ur grub commend line
[06:30] <kmaynard> eracc_, upgrade :)
[06:30] <alex_dinamo> Can I do that easily?
[06:30] <eracc_> kmaynard, not an option. The owner wants sendmail.
[06:31] <anette_> can someone help me with a problem?
[06:31] <DShepherd> segfault_: ok
[06:31] <segfault_> !ask
[06:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:31] <anette_> configure: error: pangoxft Pango backend found but did not find freetype libraries
[06:31] <BahadirDogan> Hi! I have a question. chmod a+rx b.txt
[06:31] <BahadirDogan> chmod ug+w b.txt.  Can i do them together? 10x in advance
[06:31] <nomin-> is ubuntuforums.org broken?
[06:31] <joris> Hi there, the forums seem to be down, or is it just here...?
[06:31] <kmaynard> alex_dinamo: the alternate partitioner works fine, but its a little clunky...try getting SytemRescueCD or knoppix and using qtparted
[06:31] <anette_> any one else got this prob: ?configure: error: pangoxft Pango backend found but did not find freetype libraries
[06:32] <segfault_> BahadirDogan, yes use numeric privs to chmod
[06:32] <Shish> BahadirDogan: "chmod 775 b.txt"
[06:32] <nomin-> joris:  I'm in USA and I can't access it
[06:32] <anette_> any one else got this prob: ?configure: error: pangoxft Pango backend found but did not find freetype libraries
[06:32] <BahadirDogan> but my instructor does not like numerics
[06:32] <apokryphos> joris: #ubuntuforums
[06:32] <nomin-> apokryphos, no.  Ubuntuforums.org is down
[06:32] <savvas> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.ubuntuforums.org.
[06:32] <BahadirDogan> segfault_, my instructor does not like numerics
[06:32] <joris> ok thanks it's not just here
[06:33] <nashnash> how can i access to my root user?
[06:33] <karlp_> BahadirDogan: then no, you can't.
[06:33] <nashnash> plz help someone
[06:33] <kmaynard> BahadirDogan: what are you tring to do again? i missed it
[06:33] <vogeltjeUb> hi i ve got a problem:
[06:33] <apokryphos> nomin-: err, so what's wrong with recommending #ubuntuforums the IRC channel, which exists?
[06:33] <vogeltjeUb> My Edgy Eft livecd won't start: it freezes on the last loading session, no warning whatsoever
[06:33] <vogeltjeUb> I think its my Ati X800 videocard. And I can't even get in the terminal (Alt+F2 was it??), so I can't configure my xorg.conf...
[06:33] <segfault_> BahadirDogan, what karlp_ said
[06:33] <Shish> BahadirDogan: your instuctor fails... but also, "chmod u=rwx,g=rwx,or=rx b.txt"
[06:33] <anette_> any one else got this prob: ?configure: error: pangoxft Pango backend found but did not find freetype libraries
[06:33] <nomin-> apokryphos, sorry.  I thought maybe you misunderstood him.
[06:33] <angeleyes> i kan not install wine
[06:33] <savvas> vogeltjeUb: try ctrl+alt+f1
[06:33] <apokryphos> angeleyes: are you following the guide in /msg ubotu wine?
[06:34] <BahadirDogan> 10x Shish i try it
[06:34] <finalbeta_> When I'm +- 10 minutes idle, beagle takes up 100% CPU, but all the time and it doesn't stop, anyone else experiencing this?
[06:34] <nomin-> angeleyes, I found a great link to install wine...
[06:34] <kmaynard> finalbeta_, yup
[06:34] <blazemonger> anyone here using edgy having trouble with xmms in doublesize mode?
[06:34] <arepie> is there flash support for ubuntu64 bit ubuntu edgy?
[06:34] <Shish> finalbeta_: that's by design -- when you aren't using the computer, beagle gets to work indexing all your documents so that it can find them faster
[06:34] <apokryphos> finalbeta: that's the way beagle works, it's caching and indexing when you're not using your PC
[06:34] <nashnash> plz someone help me 2 questions: how can i see a directory's chmod and how can i log in to my root user? what is his pass?
[06:34] <DShepherd> segfault_: thanks that worked.. however the details is in an awful blue colour.. any idead how to change that colour?
[06:34] <Shish> !root
[06:34] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:35] <apokryphos> nashnash: ls -lh /some/directory
[06:35] <blazemonger> !xmms
[06:35] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:35] <nomin-> angeleyes, when the site is back up, go here:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585&highlight=wine
[06:35] <nashnash> thanks
[06:35] <apokryphos> nashnash: about logging into root, see what ubotu said above
[06:35] <dob1> hi
[06:35] <Shish> "ls -d /blah/" will show you a directory instead of it's contents
[06:35] <finalbeta_> Shish, ok, but I practically have no files in my home folder, how can it be working that long. It must be running 8 hours a day.
[06:35] <segfault_> DShepherd, set vga=xxx for ur res and color depth
[06:35] <vogeltjeUb> savvas: that brings up my terminal? and then go to /etc/X11/Xorg.conf. I think i will have to replace my ati with vesa??
[06:35] <DShepherd> segfault_: where?
[06:36] <Shish> no idea why it'd be running that much...
[06:36] <segfault_> DShepherd, iirc vga=791 is for 1024x768@16bit color
[06:36] <dob1> there are some faq or articles  about the difference between ubuntu and debian?
[06:36] <apokryphos> finalbeta_: it doesn't just index your home folder I believe
[06:36] <angeleyes> thanks
[06:36] <segfault_> DShepherd, grub kernel line where u removed quiet
[06:36] <apokryphos> finalbeta_: though still not sure why it's running *that* much
[06:36] <DShepherd> segfault_: ok...
[06:36] <alecjw> anyone know of any windoze programs which will silently run in the background, making the computer get slower and slower? (trying to convert someone)
[06:37] <finalbeta_> apokryphos, ok, thnx, let's forget it, it's purged :p
[06:37] <nashnash> well, i dont have access on my user, only for "root" , drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 160 2006-10-30 19:28 usb
[06:37] <nashnash> roi@roi-desktop:/dev/bus$
[06:37] <nashnash>  , how can i set access to this folder for my user too ? there is a command for that?
[06:37] <tec> how do i terminate a non responsive program
[06:37] <Shish> alecjw: you shouldn't need to use dirty tricks to make windows seem worse than it is...
[06:37] <apokryphos> nashnash: which folder is this?
[06:38] <czer323> alecjw, sounds like you're talking about spyware...
[06:38] <nashnash> apokryphos its /dev/bus/usb cuz i need to give access to my user, not root, so my scanner will work
[06:38] <segfault_> alecjw, there r so many reasons to ditch windows (stability, ease of software management, upgrades, security) why search for more :)
[06:39] <apokryphos> nashnash: I really don't think the way is to muck around with things in /dev; I think stuff like that is taken care of in /etc/fstab
[06:39] <apokryphos> nashnash: have you read the instructions at /msg ubotu scanner?
[06:39] <blazemonger> anyone want to try using the doublesize option in xmms (pref edgy)
[06:39] <karlp_> blaze: works for me in dapper
[06:39] <karlp_> can't say for edgy though
[06:39] <nashnash> well not rly, ill try that now, but m8.. when i try to open XSANE it gives me error "resources to this devices is denined" and there is "libusb:004:003 error" and something with /dev/bus/usb
[06:40] <alecjw> segfault_: my parents think that it's their hardware so they're getting a new computer. when they get it and find out that it's a lot faster, they'll still believe that. when it grinds to a halt after a couple of weeks, then they won't :D
[06:40] <tec> how do i terminate a non responsive program
[06:40] <nomin-> what is the best player to use for .flv files?
[06:40] <DShepherd> segfault_: i hope there's any easier way to do this in fawn
[06:40] <ehird> What's the best way to install gtk+ 2.8 on edgy?
[06:40] <kmaynard> kill it
[06:40] <ianmacgregor> tec: You can try xkill
[06:40] <anette_> CAN someone please help me with this: configure: error: pangoxft Pango backend found but did not find freetype libraries
[06:41] <nashnash> apokryphos someone had the same problem of "Resources to this device is denined" and then he fixed it this way: have a fix for my problem. I had to go into /dev/bus/usb/005 and do a chmod a+w on 002 and all worked out well!
[06:41] <EagleUbuntu> hello hello
[06:41] <nashnash> but i dont have any /dev/bus/usb/005
[06:41] <shadowhywind> i finally got my hibernate working again!!!!
[06:41] <nashnash> and i tried to chmod a+w on usb..
[06:41] <segfault_> DShepherd, doubtfully, that will have to be on kernel boot line so it can tell the framebuffer what to res to use
[06:41] <EagleUbuntu> I have a question how can I share my internet connection from ubuntu to win xp ? I have a switch a cable connection with username and password ?!
[06:41] <`Jessica> I'm trying to compile gaim-otr on edgy eft and I get this error: checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.4 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4 gaim >= 1.0... configure: error: glib
[06:41] <`Jessica> ./configure: line 19502: exit: gtk: numeric argument required
[06:41] <apokryphos> nashnash: well try it then, I guess; use the chmod command. Check the guide first though.
[06:42] <segfault_> nashnash, that may ur issue but it will not survive reboots
[06:42] <ehird> actually
[06:42] <ehird> how can i see what gtk+ version i have
[06:42] <anette_> CAN someone please help me with this: configure: error: pangoxft Pango backend found but did not find freetype libraries
[06:42] <DShepherd> segfault_: so there's no easy way to toggle  showing the boot details
[06:42] <EagleUbuntu> can someone answer my question ?!
[06:42] <nashnash> i tried to give chmod to usb, and i did restart
[06:42] <OliW> Anyone done an install on a nforce motherboard with RAID0 before?
[06:42] <nashnash> the problem stayed
[06:42] <czer323> alecjw, you shoudl probably just download a free spyware scanner to show them that it's spyware.  it's a fairly common problem in the windows world.  search for spybot and adaware.  Try to use them both.
[06:42] <ehird> for the record the program i'm trying to compile is aqualung: aqualung.sourceforge.net
[06:42] <apokryphos> ehird: dpkg -l|grep gtk
[06:42] <nashnash> i thought maybe i can go to "root" user.. its possible?
[06:42] <nashnash> that guy said "I can run it as root"
[06:42] <ehird> right, i have 2.0
[06:42] <segfault_> nashnash, that chmod command may fix ur issue but it will not survive reboots
[06:42] <nashnash> how did he run xsane thru root?
[06:42] <angeleyes> off i hate linux is so idiot i kan not install
[06:42] <ehird> i need 2.8, is ther any repos for it?
[06:42] <apokryphos> nashnash: no, that's a very bad idea.
[06:43] <ehird> angeleyes i like that sentence
[06:43] <apokryphos> angeleyes: no trolling.
[06:43] <ezu5t> `Jessica: gaim-otr works from edgy
[06:43] <segfault_> DShepherd, no easier way than that
[06:43] <ehird> i have a new .sig :)
[06:43] <EagleUbuntu> :\
[06:43] <ezu5t> does anyone know how to get firefox 2.0 to work with https again (ubuntu edgy)?
[06:43] <czer323> OliW, There's an article online that someone installed dmraid on the machine and setup with a live cd.  I'll see if i can find it for you.
[06:43] <nashnash> well, someone succeed with the same scanner as mine, "Thanks for the tip Ben. This works great with my Scanjet 3970." .. i think its just a problem of access, but i dont know how to give access to my user of scanning
[06:43] <`Jessica> ezu5t: how did you install it?
[06:43] <anette_> CAN someone please help me with this: configure: error: pangoxft Pango backend found but did not find freetype libraries
[06:43] <EagleUbuntu> hey I have installed firestare how the heck can I configure it ?!
[06:43] <Chu> Where might I find a usplash image on my system? I was updating grub, and it didn't appear to find one. Perhaps that was the cause of my lack of usplash? :p
[06:43] <OliW> thanks czer323
[06:44] <apokryphos> nashnash: use the chmod command
[06:44] <ezu5t> `Jessica: apt-get install gaim-otr (but you have to set your sources.list to use edgy first)
[06:44] <apokryphos> !usplash | chu
[06:44] <ubotu> chu: usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[06:44] <ianmacgregor> EagleUbuntu: You mean firestarter?
[06:44] <segfault_> nashnash, if u want to try the chmod, chmod then test do not reboot
[06:44] <anette_> CAN someone please help me with this: configure: error: pangoxft Pango backend found but did not find freetype libraries
[06:44] <DShepherd> segfault_: hmm.. other distros have done it before.. its must be possible..
[06:44] <`Jessica> ezu5t: do you have the repo URL?
[06:44] <czer323> OliW, http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto check this out and good luck ;)
[06:44] <angeleyes> windows is d best
[06:44] <ianmacgregor> !repeat > anette_
[06:44] <EagleUbuntu> yeah I have installed firestarter but I dont know how to configure it
[06:44] <segfault_> DShepherd, not so
[06:44] <ehird> angeleyes: idiocy is d best
[06:44] <apokryphos> !repeat | anette_
[06:44] <ubotu> anette_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:44] <DShepherd> angeleyes: doors are kool too
[06:44] <nashnash> segfault_ i tried to reboot my pc after chmoding a+w the usb dir and nothing happened
[06:45] <ehird> !troll | angeleyes
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[06:45] <segfault_> nashnash, if u want to try the chmod, chmod then test do not reboot
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <ianmacgregor> EagleUbuntu: Open a term and run: gksu firestarter
[06:45] <ehird> aww
[06:45] <OliW> @czer323: ty
[06:45] <anette_> sorry..
[06:45] <EagleUbuntu> okay
[06:45] <ehird> i've tried apt-get install gtk+-2.8
[06:45] <ehird> but that doesn't work
[06:45] <angeleyes> linux is to naabs
[06:45] <kodat> anyone know how to send uhh.for example..when firefox is open, the browser is on bottom panel, how do i make the browser go to top panel
[06:45] <kodat> hard to explain
[06:45] <segfault_> nashnash, repeat do not reboot, chmods on items in /dev will not survive reboots, u will need custom udev rules for that
[06:45] <blazemonger> i like ubuntu edgy but there's a few things that i think were rushed..
[06:45] <ehird> =(
[06:46] <EagleUbuntu> (gksu:5339): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[06:46] <EagleUbuntu> look what it says
[06:46] <finalbeta_> kodat, I don't think tha panels can do that.
[06:46] <blazemonger> i know bugfixes will be released soon
[06:46] <apokryphos> blazemonger: agreed
[06:46] <kodat> finalbeta, ill show you what i mean
[06:46] <blazemonger> apokryphos: i think they should have waited a bit longer on edgy and just updated the packages on dapper
[06:46] <EagleUbuntu> what can I do ?
[06:46] <ezu5t> !patience
[06:46] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:46] <ianmacgregor> EagleUbuntu: I don't know, then. That is the command that the menu item uses and it works here.
[06:46] <blazemonger> because when i use xmms and try to doublesize it it bugs out
[06:46] <czer323> Mem usage for just gnome went up tremendously.  I upgraded my sister's machine and she's complaining all the time now about it getting locked up with extra memory usage.
[06:46] <EagleUbuntu> :((
[06:47] <EagleUbuntu> okay thanks ... :D
[06:47] <EagleUbuntu> bye
[06:47] <kodat> finalbeta, http://www.taimila.com/images/osx/after_big_2.jpg see how the terminal server and configuration are on the top panel instead of the bottom
[06:47] <segfault_> DShepherd, all forms of bootup splash screens require u to edit grub command line for ur vga mode if u desire more colors or a diff resolution, other distros may set this by default but all will require some vga= mode for something other than 640x480 @ 16 colors
[06:47] <apokryphos> blazemonger: but xmms sucks ;-)
[06:47] <ezu5t> does anyone else on edgy have a working firefox 2.0 that can do https://
[06:47] <blazemonger> apokryphos: it's always been my favorite though
[06:47] <apokryphos> blazemonger: but indeed, releasing in four months would be quite tough
[06:47] <segfault_> ezu5t, yes https works fine here
[06:47] <blazemonger> apokryphos: however i can understand that there will be bugs in any new release
[06:47] <[GuS] > Hi people.. how can i fix locale problems? i tried many times and always i got this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/229402
[06:48] <[GuS] > using Kubuntu Edgy..
[06:48] <Chu> apokryphos: I don't really want to customize it, per se. I want it to WORK. I found the splash image, but it would appear as if grub can't find it itself.
[06:48] <ezu5t> i'm using kubuntu, and it tells me "Firefox doesn't know how to communicate with the server. Check to make sure your system has the Personal Security Manager installed." What does that mean?
[06:48] <blazemonger> the one question i have..is..i like to have kde and gnome installed because i like to switch between the two and is all of kde/gnome installed in ubuntu for compiling stuff
[06:49] <apokryphos> Chu: is usplash and usplash-theme-ubuntu installed?
[06:49] <Chu> Yes.
[06:49] <karlp_> anyone know how to get a 1.4 jdk on ubuntu?
[06:49] <ehird> =(
[06:49] <karlp_> teh one in multivese is 1.5
[06:49] <karlp_> and I have an app that requires 1.4, and refuses to run with 1.5
[06:49] <Farm_Fresh> boom chicka bow wow
[06:50] <ezu5t> karlp_, might as well get the binary install direct from sun
[06:50] <anette_> anyone ever had problems with freetype libraries??
[06:50] <blazemonger> the one thing i love about Ubuntu is it coms on one cd and has fast installation
[06:50] <Tim90> my recycle bin is gone ?
[06:50] <apokryphos> Chu: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r` then
[06:50] <karlp_> ezu5t: and back to make-jpackage and all that love.
[06:50] <finalbeta_> Rofl, burning CD's on ubuntu is funny, GNOMEbakers burns a hole in the middle of the CD's you can actually see. The program nautilus uses for data works, but the audio burning program i'm running now makes my CD burner spin down and up etc. for 20 minutes already.
[06:50] <karlp_> fair enough.
[06:50] <blazemonger> i'm just confused about what developer tools i need to install for compiling sources from sourceforge and freshmeat
[06:50] <remi> Bonsoir
[06:50] <ezu5t> karlp_ although there are older jdks out there in the packages you can get if you want to dig around...
[06:50] <anette_> use k3b!
[06:50] <apokryphos> blazemonger: build-essential, mainly
[06:50] <karlp_> ezu5t: in which packages?
[06:51] <rawi> When I try to mount a windows share with ubuntu it says
[06:51] <rawi> wrong fstype
[06:51] <apokryphos> blazemonger: however, if you're trying to install a given application, first do sudo apt-get build-dep somepackage
[06:51] <apokryphos> blazemonger: which tries to resolve package dependencies
[06:51] <ehird> =(
[06:51] <czer323> !ntfs
[06:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:51] <EmxBA> how, why and when can someone add me to https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers/ ?
[06:51] <karlp_> ahh, j2sdk
[06:51] <ezu5t> j2sdk1.4 - Blackdown Java(TM) 2 SDK, Standard Edition
[06:51] <ezu5t> \
[06:51] <karlp_> I was apt-cache search for jdk, not j2sdk
[06:51] <karlp_> :)
[06:51] <karlp_> takk
[06:51] <anette_> anyone ever had problems with freetype libraries??
[06:51] <bjv> in dapper, how do you re-sync the clock from the console?
[06:51] <bjv> i used to just restart ntp-something service
[06:51] <segfault_> ezu5t, u may want to ask ur firefox question in #kubuntu i think they tied firefox more closely to the personal info mgrs in gnome and kde, if ur missing a kde pkg this may happen
[06:52] <MasseR> bjv: ntpdate server
[06:52] <blazemonger> thanks for the hint apokryphos
[06:52] <rawi> When I try to mount a windows share with ubuntu it says moount; wronf fs type, bad option, bad superblock on (destination)
[06:52] <ezu5t> segfault_, thanks. i'll try that.
[06:52] <Chu> apokryphos: It didn't find it.
[06:52] <EmxBA> i have more than 24k karma points, i've worked on translating and on wiki too and i'm on IRC very often - who can i contact regarding ubuntu-members team?
[06:52] <blazemonger> I find it fascinating how Ubuntu got so popular in such a short amount of time
[06:52] <Tim90> finalbeta_:  Rofl, burning CD's on ubuntu is funny, GNOMEbakers burns a hole in the middle of the CD's are u seriuse
[06:52] <angeleyes> of i install windows linux:(
[06:52] <apokryphos> Chu: what's the exact output?
[06:52] <MasseR> Grah... So kernels higher than 2.6.15 won't work for me. 2.6.17 and higher will break my NIC, break my fans randomly, and break my MMC reader :(
[06:53] <rawi> When I try to mount a windows share with ubuntu it says moount; wronf fs type, bad option, bad superblock on (destination)
[06:53] <blazemonger> i've been boycotting the RIAA by even refusing to download music by RIAA artists
[06:53] <EmxBA> anyone?
[06:53] <finalbeta_> Tim90, well, not a hole :p, but I can see a color change in the middle of the CD's I burn with GNOMEbaker, and they are of course broken.
[06:53] <EmxBA> Seveas maybe?
[06:53] <czer323> Tim90, finalbeta_, best cd burning on ubuntu Period is K3b, but it's kde based.  Just try it once... you'll love it. ;)
[06:53] <rawi> When I try to mount a windows share with ubuntu it says moount; wronf fs type, bad option, bad superblock on (destination)
[06:54] <EmxBA> ogra ? DBO ? or gnomefreak?
[06:54] <Volstrup> rawi: it is not helping to post your question again and again
[06:54] <MasseR> I'll just change to use 2.6.15 unless someone has some advices :)
[06:54] <[] Sentinel> hi all
[06:54] <iter> rawi: apt-get install smbfs ?
[06:54] <rawi> Volstrup: Doesn't anyone know this
[06:54] <Tim90> i need my recyle bin back ,just dont feel complete with out it
[06:54] <rawi> iter: I did
[06:54] <[] Sentinel> big problem screen resolution on my laptop!!!
[06:54] <bjv> MasseR: ah, i had wondered about maybe if that should have been able to already know the server name from a config file
[06:54] <bjv> 'ntp.ubuntulinux.org' as an argument keeps it pretty simple, thanks
[06:54] <Chu> apokryphos: http://chubuntu.randfunction.com/10-30-2006.log
[06:54] <Volstrup> rawi: perhaps not. Have you tried google?
[06:54] <finalbeta_> czer323, I will
[06:55] <[] Sentinel> when i put a resolution > 1024, display gets wred
[06:55] <Volstrup> rawi: what command does result in this error?
[06:55] <[] Sentinel> some1 help me please
[06:55] <anette_> anyone ever had problems with freetype libraries??
[06:55] <Gevaudan82> Hello all...I've got an interesting problem in edgy...basically when at home where i have a hostname unique to my lan and a static ip address unique to my lan i can login and everything works fine...however at work after i login there is a significant lag in everything i do..plus it takes ~ 3 minutes for the Window Manager splash screen to go away...is this a problem with the hostname being unacceptable? i've had a similar problem in other distr
[06:55] <Gevaudan82> os
[06:55] <[] Sentinel> helloooohooooo
[06:56] <rawi> Volstrup: mount -t smbfs -o username="username",password='password' //192.168.2.1/share .
[06:56] <ehird> any help?
[06:56] <[] Sentinel> i need help
[06:56] <coastermaster> which packages in synaptic do I need to grab to install the official sun java sdk?
[06:56] <segfault_> rawi, i think the // proceeding the ip should be removed
[06:56] <Gevaudan82> coastermaster: sun-java5-sdk
[06:57] <rawi> now i get this error smb siging is mandatory and we have disabled it
[06:57] <coastermaster> thank you
[06:57] <rawi> segfault_: thanq you trying it
[06:57] <blazemonger> wopah on distrowatch Ubuntu is  number one in ranking..
[06:57] <blazemonger> i can see how even with the bugs it does have
[06:57] <Gevaudan82> blazemonger: rightfully so
[06:57] <kosnick> even though i have added repositories , from the synaptic search tool , i only get kernel version 2.4.sth . any ideas how can i get the latest 2.6.sth version through synaptic  ( cause i wouldn't dare install it myself...)
[06:57] <blazemonger> even my friend that was a windows nazi for so long is impressed with Ubuntu
[06:57] <ehird> blazemonger: has been for a year at least
[06:58] <Gevaudan82> blazemonger: in my opinion, they both have their place...thus why i dual boot
[06:58] <rawi> This command is designed to be run from within /bin/mount by giving
[06:58] <rawi> the option '-t smbfs'. For example:
[06:58] <gnomefreak> eMpl: ?
[06:58] <ehird> every "I want to use linux. What is the easiest distro?" forum topic gets 1000s of Ubuntu replies
[06:58] <ehird> so...
[06:58] <gnomefreak> ack
[06:58] <apokryphos> Chu: looks fine. Try a reboot now
[06:58] <blazemonger> it's amazing how fast ubuntu got popular
[06:58] <Chu> Sure.
[06:58] <rawi> segfault_:  Is Released!!! http://tinyurl.com/ybflyf
[06:58] <rawi> 18:57 -!- kishore [n=kishore@202.133.61.16]  has joined #ubuntu
[06:58] <rawi> 18:58 < ehird> blazemonger: has been for a year at least
[06:59] <ehird> rawi: eh?
[06:59] <rawi> ehird: This command is designed to be run from within /bin/mount by giving
[06:59] <rawi> the option '-t smbfs'. For example:
[06:59] <blazemonger> i would describe it as a easier to use debian with a touch of some other distro
[06:59] <ehird> rawi: wow, a real-life flooder
[06:59] <ehird> rawi: hi!
[06:59] <Loof> Is there a way to have a 32bpp plane in X.org/X11 with a driver that only supports 24bpp?
[06:59] <coastermaster> gevua: i can't find the package sun-java5-sdk in synaptic
[06:59] <rawi> ehird: sorry linux newb, whats a flooder?
[07:00] <ehird> rawi: *sigh*
[07:00] <blazemonger> the one thing i havent learned how to do  is build my own kernels
[07:00] <kmaynard> ha, try gentoo :)
[07:00] <blazemonger> that's a task that i feel intimidated by
[07:00] <rawi> ehird: well that explains a lot, thank you?
[07:00] <jhaquo> hi, im installing ubuntu on another of my computers, when he asked me for the harddrive, i told him erase old (windows partition), but then he didnt ask me for the swap partition, now he is installing, did he create a swap on himself?
[07:00] <tich> my rss feed reader (liferea) crashes when i try to open some pages in tabs-- could someone help me fix this?
[07:00] <kmaynard> i havent built my own kernel since i started using ubuntu...i find it easier to let someone elses worry about that
[07:01] <wouaren> hi, what's the tip to launch a program in backgroud, i mean in real background because with command & when i close the console, it ends command
[07:01] <capt-silver> blaze, can you type 'make' ? thats about all to it now a days....
[07:01] <kodat> what a good font to use
[07:01] <rawi> why doens't this work mount -t smbfs -o username=test 192.168.2.1/Software/Website /var/www/apache2-default/
[07:02] <segfault_> blazemonger, use kernel-package it makes building kernels into .debs easy
[07:02] <Mariolink> I've now downloaded and tried the alternative, 32 bit, 64 bit version and they all do the same: After pressing install they go into the loading screen and after that it goes into a black screen where every thing stops
[07:02] <tops> hey, does anyone know of a way to have a Makefile use several machines to build source files, when they share an NFS file system?
[07:02] <Loof> Is there a way to have a 32bpp plane in X.org/X11 with a driver that only supports 24bpp?
[07:02] <tich> i ran liferea from the terminal and when crashed it gave me some info-- i can paste it in pastebin if anyone wants to look it over.
[07:03] <segfault_> Loof, dont think so
[07:03] <MasseR> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.18/2.6.18-mm1/ Uhm, how do I install this?
[07:03] <Mariolink> any ideas?
[07:03] <segfault_> tops, u could ssh the compile command on each machine from within the makefile,  and then scp the result back, not sure how if at all clock skew would affecet the results
[07:03] <blazemonger> segfault_: how hard is it to m ake your own distro based on Ubuntu?
[07:03] <Loof> Hmm, the old accelx commercial server could do that if I remember.
[07:03] <Loof> This kinda sucks :)
[07:04] <Loof> Things don't like 24bpp
[07:04] <variant> tich: you mean like distcc?
[07:04] <tops> segfault_, yeah that's about what i was thinking
[07:04] <kosnick> what command gives back the kernel version?
[07:04] <phatmonkey> "apt-get build-dep mythtv" gives the error "E: Build-dependencies for mythtv could not be satisfied.". what's that supposed to mean? there are packages missing that it needs?
[07:04] <rawi> what does this mean? cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it.
[07:04] <variant> blazemonger: it is very easy
[07:04] <tich> variant, i am not familiar with distcc. what is it? is it a feed reader?
[07:05] <blazemonger> variant: it must be if there are a billion live cd distros
[07:05] <segfault_> blazemonger, that really depends on ur resources and how much u want to change
[07:05] <Gevaudan82> Does anyone know how I would mount a shared drive when connected via PPTP?
[07:05] <Tim90> how do i install mmpython-0.4.10
[07:05] <variant> tich: sorry, was ment for tops
[07:05] <tops> variant, yeah, it looks like that's c specific?
[07:06] <variant> blazemonger: install ubuntu, set it up how you want (keeping it within the size of a cd or dvd) and run the scripts from http://www.linux-live.org
[07:06] <wouaren> hi, what's the tip to launch a program in backgroud, i mean in real background because with command & when i close the console, it ends command
[07:06] <variant> tops: it will work for whatever languages are supported by gcc
[07:06] <blazemonger> variant: thanks for the advice
[07:06] <blazemonger> i want to make a live cd that has all of the audio stuff
[07:06] <Gevaudan82> wouaren: add a & at the end
[07:06] <tich> variant, yeah no problem, so i guess you don't have any ideas about why liferea shuts down?
[07:06] <blazemonger> because i've been experimenting with music production software
[07:06] <kosnick> wouaren : are you sure that after closing the shell you have it no more?
[07:06] <blazemonger> and Ubuntu has alot of potential
[07:06] <tops> variant, ah, dang, this is a non-gcc project :(
[07:06] <wouaren> yes kosnick
[07:07] <wouaren> i use a dedicated server
[07:07] <blazemonger> (actually i mean linux has ALOT of potential for music production applications
[07:07] <wouaren> then when i close console (ie ssh access)
[07:07] <variant> tops: well then, set up a cluster..
[07:07] <wouaren> end of command
[07:07] <_Brandon_> hi, i've installed acx100 with module assistant but modprobe said that there is no acx_pci module
[07:07] <kosnick> wouaren :  sorry can't help you with it
[07:07] <patrick_king> !ntfs
[07:07] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:07] <wouaren> need to use screen
[07:07] <Chu> apokryphos: Didn't help at all.
[07:07] <blazemonger> another thing i like about ubuntu is how easy it is to burn a iso image
[07:08] <variant> wouaren: try apt-get install screen && screen application name
[07:08] <kosnick> which command gives back the kernel version?
[07:08] <patrick_king> does any one no how to use a sata drive as storge on ubuntu
[07:08] <Tim90> can i have a paste bin link
[07:08] <variant> tich: rafb.net/nopaste
[07:08] <eddieduce> I get a static screen when logging off Ubuntu and on ocassions when shuting down!  Has anyone has this issue and been able to resolve it?
[07:08] <apokryphos> Chu: edgy?
[07:09] <Chu> Yes.
[07:09] <apokryphos> Chu: file a bug report then, mentioning that you have the usplash packages, and that you tried the dpkg-reconfigure command
[07:09] <apokryphos> !bugs
[07:09] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:09] <Chu> Sure.
[07:09] <apokryphos> thanks
[07:10] <crass> I've looked in /boot/config* and ipw3945 has monitor mode enabled, but I can't seem to get it to say that in iwconfig.  Does anyone have any experience with this?
[07:10] <wildchild> why can't I update my sources.list :S http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29390/
[07:10] <patrick_king> !gdisk
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <Tim90> paste bin ?
[07:10] <variant> wildchild: cant get there
[07:10] <Laz445> how do i mount the hd from a live cd?
[07:10] <variant> tich: http://rafb.net/nopaste
[07:11] <Geoffrey2> If I'm manually installing Firefox 2, where should I be copying the files to?
[07:11] <brenlae> hey, i'm following this guide to install beryl http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-4831-howto-beryl-edgy-for-intel-embedded-graphics and i'm stuck at step 5
[07:11] <segfault_> Laz445, man mount
[07:11] <variant> Laz445: mount /dev/devicenameandnumberhere /mnt
[07:11] <brenlae> how do i get into Sessions > Start up programs?
[07:11] <Laz445> thankz
[07:11] <brenlae> nevermind, i just figured it out :s
[07:11] <segfault_> brenlae, #ubuntu-xgl
[07:12] <rex> y it shows  line 6 in /etc/fstab is bad
[07:12] <rex> ?
[07:12] <blazemonger> i'm about to sign up onto the ubuntu community forums
[07:12] <variant> wildchild: that link does not work
[07:12] <blazemonger> ubuntu is someting i'm probably going to end up using in the long term
[07:12] <Tim90> http://rafb.net/paste/results/rjjiZM59.html
[07:12] <ehc723> i am trying to install ubuntu but i get an frequency out of range error when i do. how do i change the monitor settings before the install?
[07:12] <variant> wildchild: try http://rafb.net/nopaste
[07:12] <ehird> is there an easy way to make dpkg -i sort out depdendencies?
[07:12] <blazemonger> I can' wait for windows Vista to come out.. It will be the downfall of Microsoft
[07:12] <ehird> blazemonger: heh
[07:13] <Tim90> please have at my past bin http://rafb.net/paste/results/rjjiZM59.html
[07:13] <brenlae> segfault_, thanks :3
[07:13] <Hex\> greetings
[07:13] <blazemonger> ehird: As we all know from history, empire's fall :)
[07:13] <blazemonger> and in the bible david defeated goliah(sp?) (my theological knowledge is minimal)
[07:14] <Hex\> is there a known issue with ubuntu where if you close the lid to your laptop.. the screen blanks.. but wont turn back on?  i have power options for everything setting set to DO NOTHING when monitor is shut
[07:14] <blazemonger> 2007 will be the year when windows users get frustrated then jump to linux/bsd/etc..
[07:14] <fedbox> hey guys.. anyone know if its possible to split a 750 gig drive into 150 partitions?
[07:14] <ehird> any ideas?
[07:14] <iter> wow
[07:14] <donvito> i just installed kubuntu
[07:14] <ehird> fedbox: why?
[07:14] <donvito> i have problems with eggdrop
[07:14] <iter> fedbox: I have to second that
[07:14] <donvito> somethink like tcl and libc
[07:14] <wildchild> variant: http://rafb.net/paste/results/npy2z250.html
[07:14] <variant> fedbox: yes it is, god knows why you would want to do that though
[07:15] <iter> fedbox: why why why
[07:15] <sentinel> hi
[07:15] <Geoffrey2> blazemonger, sounds nice in theory, but I highly doubt it......
[07:15] <fedbox> its not for me
[07:15] <Hex\> anyone have this issue with ubuntu and their laptop?
[07:15] <fedbox> its for someone
[07:15] <Mariolink> Any got a solution to the Black Screen problem after the installation Splash screen?
[07:15] <sentinel> some1 pls help me with my TFT
[07:15] <ehird> fedbox: each has a warez file in or something? :)
[07:15] <blazemonger> Geoffrey2: I see it happening
[07:15] <Chu> apokryphos: Hmm, is this a bug in usplash or grub?
[07:15] <NoWhereMan> hi guys
[07:15] <gouki> I had it once
[07:15] <sentinel> hellooohooo TFT probs @ laptop
[07:15] <apokryphos> Chu: file it under usplash for now
[07:15] <Chu> Okay.
[07:15] <ehc723> is there a way to edit the xorg settings before i start the install?
[07:15] <gouki> You need to manually edit xorg.conf before entering GUI mode
[07:15] <NoWhereMan> a friend of mine told me he was somehow able to run xgl/aiglx in software rendering mode
[07:15] <Hex\> sentinel, what is your issue?
[07:15] <iter> ehird: 5GB each, about a dvd
[07:15] <NoWhereMan> do you know how could this be done?
[07:16] <Tim90> disc/cdrommodule.o
[07:16] <Tim90> disc/cdrommodule.c:36:20: error: Python.h: No such file or directory
[07:16] <ehird> iter: so you're mass pirating dvds. cool
[07:16] <Hex\> closing my laptop ==i have to power off to get the screen to come back on
[07:16] <variant> wildchild: there is a reason for it further up, paste the rest
[07:16] <gouki> ehc723- Yes .. ALT+F1
[07:16] <sentinel> Hex\: can't get full resolution
[07:16] <iter> ehird: not me, it's the feds
[07:16] <iter> ehird: aka fedbox
[07:16] <sentinel> when i put to 1280x1024, i got grafik errors
[07:16] <ehird> i know that
[07:16] <ehird> or
[07:16] <ehird> i do now
[07:16] <donvito> vigor
[07:16] <blazemonger> Geoffrey2: however computer hardware is so cheap now days it's insane and it's hard to keep up with all of the technology that comes out if you don't work in the industry or if you're not dedicated to the technology world..(i'm just a slacker skateboarder
[07:16] <ehc723> okay thanks
[07:16] <ehird> sorry, i don't look at names ;x
[07:16] <segfault_> ehc723, there are boot options prior to booting the livecd try some of those
[07:16] <wildchild> variant: ok jsut a sec
[07:16] <fedbox> what if i said i wanted to partition a 10TB raid array into 5 gig partitions across the board
[07:17] <sentinel> Hex\ any idea
[07:17] <ehird> fedbox: that's even more dvds!
[07:17] <Hex\> im using 1024x768.. dont even have 1280x1024 offered.. then again im wide screen
[07:17] <Mariolink> guiki what do i have to change?
[07:17] <blazemonger> i'm using 800x600
[07:17] <variant> fedbox: yes you can, whats the point?
[07:17] <sentinel> Hex\ im at 1024x786 now too, but want to have full 1280x800
[07:17] <misha> Hiya folks. My /etc/fstab contains the (last) line "//server/DISK\0401 /home/music/server/ smbfs credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=755,fmask=755 0 0". This samba-networked folder does not get mounted on bootup, I have to run "mount -a" to get it connected. All the other lines in fstab are processed and mounted. Mounting this one by hand is a drag - how can I fix it? Thx in advance!
[07:17] <sentinel> widescreent, too
[07:17] <fedbox> variat: not sure. .its being requested by someone that i do it :/
[07:18] <variant> fedbox: lol
[07:18] <Hex\> yea i dunno i was trying to see if you had the same problem as me
[07:18] <segfault_> Hex\, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, my widescreen res works fine
[07:18] <ehird> when i run kmp, i get "kmp: error while loading shared libraries: libqt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:18] <ehird> "
[07:18] <fedbox> variant: i think after all the partitions are done i have to group all partitions together
[07:18] <ehird> fedbox you're helping a pirate :)
[07:18] <variant> fedbox: if its to restrict how much space users get ina virtual machine or even for the home dir then there is much better ways to do it
[07:18] <anette_> anyone ever had problems with freetype libraries??
[07:18] <joris> anyone know something about: Bug: soft lockup detected on cpu#0 this happens often when i try to upstart, since i upgraded to edgy
[07:19] <fedbox> variant: i think the goal is have it all mounted as one drive
[07:19] <Geoffrey2> blazemonger, well, that would be a discussion for the offtopic channel.....
[07:19] <fedbox> variant: just partitioned in that way
[07:19] <blazemonger> i find it interesting that one of the packages in the documentation area is titled anarchism
[07:19] <iter> fedbox: is there a reason you can't use quota ?
[07:19] <variant> fedbox: software raid then ?
[07:19] <blazemonger> Geoffrey2: I apologize
[07:19] <ehird> blazemonger: heh
[07:19] <fedbox> variant: its hardware raid
[07:19] <variant> fedbox: it's really really really really pointess
[07:19] <Gevaudan82> Does anyone know how I would mount a shared drive when connected via PPTP?
[07:19] <ehird> variant: software "raid" indeed ;)
[07:20] <blazemonger> i just see alot of people migrating to open source OS's once Vista is released..I give it one year after vista is out
[07:20] <linuxboy> anybody tried Xen on edgy?
[07:20] <Mariolink> What do I have to change in xorg.conf to continue from the black screen of death?
[07:20] <fedbox> variant: 24 drives setup w/ hardware raid card
[07:20] <Mariolink> installation baclk screen that is
[07:20] <variant> fedbox: well, yes its possible to partition it like that..
[07:20] <variant> fedbox: any other question?
[07:20] <Geoffrey2> blazemonger, oh, no...I wasn't complaining....I meant to say if you wanted to continue that discussion, we should take it to offtopic, because eventually somebody else in here WILL complain :)
[07:20] <blazemonger> I'm betting money on it with a friend that's a microsoft fanatic and he even says Vista is going to suck...heh
[07:20] <blazemonger> oh okay :)
[07:20] <fedbox> variant: heh yes.. can you point me in the right direction as to how? :)
[07:20] <smithj> is it possible to install 6.10 in text mode? installing via the livecd iside qemu is far too slow
[07:21] <Gevaudan82> smithj: alternatives cd
[07:21] <variant> fedbox: man fdisk
[07:21] <variant> smithj: did you load kqemu module?
[07:22] <Navid> hey guys .. first sorry if i sound a lil bit stupid ! im just new to linux anyway how you got any idea where i can find my httpd.conf file ?? when i do locate httpd.conf i get /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[07:22] <Navid> /etc/vhcs2/apache/httpd.conf
[07:22] <Navid>  but its notting there i mean the settings for maxcelient and etc .... thanks !
[07:22] <Geoffrey2> because, no matter how bad Windows might get, I just see too many obsticles, including the philosophy behind linux itself, keeping a mass migration to linux from happening for a long time, if ever
[07:22] <smithj> Gevaudan82: thanks
[07:22] <smithj> variant: yep
[07:22] <smithj> variant: the image hangs when i click "install"
[07:22] <Gevaudan82> navid: debian is modular.../etc/apache2/apache2.conf is close but also check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[07:22] <spiderworm> Geoffrey2: interesting theory.
[07:22] <kalikiana> How do I get sound after a crash of my media player?
[07:23] <jhaquo> is there anyway to create a swap partition POST install?
 thanks mate ..
[07:23] <smithj> jhaquo: mkswap
[07:23] <jhaquo> ok thx will try that
[07:24] <ehc723> i booted in text mode but i still got an error the "frequency out of range" anyone have any ideas?
[07:24] <fedbox> variant: fdisk tells me the limit is 16 partitions
[07:24] <fedbox> :/
[07:24] <ufoz> ehc723, you need the correct values for your monitor
[07:24] <phatmonkey> "apt-get build-dep mythtv" gives the error "E: Build-dependencies for mythtv could not be satisfied.". what's that supposed to mean? there are packages missing that it needs? i have universe and multiverse enabled
[07:25] <kalikiana> How do I get sound after a crash of my media player?
[07:25] <aaronc> I just did an edgy upgrade... what's the apt command to update my NVidia Binary drivers?
[07:25] <ehc723> ufoz, how do i change those in the boot menu
[07:25] <jhaquo> how can i check my current swap partition size please?
[07:25] <apokryphos> aaronc: check the FAQ
[07:25] <apokryphos> jhaquo: df -h
[07:25] <ehird> is mythtv useless without a tv card? :)
[07:25] <ufoz> ehc723, you need this outside of X ??
[07:26] <aaronc> apokryphos: the FAQ at the ubuntu website?
[07:26] <misha> I have a VDR-problem...I tried to install softdevice on my Ubuntu-box (VDR installed just fine) the other day, but ran into the error "make[1] : *** No rule to make target `config.h', needed by `softdevice.o'. Stop.". This has got me stumped, and I'd appreciate any tips on how to fix this error. More info can be provided.
[07:26] <apokryphos> aaronc: yes, and as listed in the channel topic
[07:26] <mmgrinberg> Hello) Does anybody know anything about edgy  graphic card problems on Thinkpad T21 (S3 Savage IX)?
[07:26] <apokryphos> aaronc: or at /msg ubotu faq
[07:27] <jhaquo> apokryphos what should the swap partition name be ?
[07:27] <bretzel> !beryl
[07:27] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[07:27] <Gevaudan82> jhaquo: twice your ram generally in case you have a bad crash...normally linux doesn't need that big of a swap
[07:28] <AlanHaggai> Is there any way to run macros in Ubunutu?
[07:28] <ehird> take it as a yes :)
[07:28] <AlanHaggai> how can it be done ehird ?
[07:28] <jhaquo> anyone can guide me on how to make that swap partition please? :s
[07:29] <ehird> AlanHaggai: heh, wasn't talking to you, don't know, sorry :)
[07:29] <apokryphos> jhaquo: actually, ignore me; df doesn't display the swap size
[07:29] <ehird> jhaquo: use gparted livecd
[07:29] <AlanHaggai> ok ehird
[07:29] <variant> jhaquo: to check swap size type free -m
[07:29] <apokryphos> jhaquo: no, ignore me again... it does. It's labelled udev
[07:29] <jhaquo> ow ok
[07:29] <jhaquo> its in megs?
[07:29] <variant> apokryphos: what?
[07:29] <AlanHaggai> Is there any way to run macros in Ubunutu?
[07:29] <Zyfo> !vnc
[07:29] <variant>  lol
[07:29] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[07:29] <ehc723> ufoz, i am trying to install ubuntu edgy knot 3 i can see the startup screen but when i say "Start or install Ubuntu" i get the frequncy out of range error
[07:29] <spiderworm> Geoffrey2: here's the reality you should think about... every day hundreds of people start using linux... artists, programmers, musicians, etc... all the way down to everyday internet/word processor users.  by using linux, they start using windows less.  its not a lot from day to day, but in five years from now, the results will be relevant
[07:29] <variant> jhaquo: if you do free -m its mb
[07:29] <apokryphos> jhaquo: in 'human readable'. If there's an M, it's megabytes, yes.
[07:29] <Zyfo> !freenx
[07:29] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[07:30] <jhaquo> ok thanks so it seems ubuntu install made a 1474 swap partition
[07:30] <kalikiana> How do I get sound after a crash of my media player?
[07:30] <jhaquo> any way to verify that please?
[07:30] <AlanHaggai> !macro
[07:30] <variant> jhaquo: thats very excessive
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <variant> jhaquo: sudo cfdisk
[07:30] <apokryphos> variant: as in, df -h shows your swap partition size and it's labelled 'udev'
[07:30] <VividHazE> Anyone got any links about getting into root in Ubuntu? I was never asked for a password for my root and i don't know how to get into it :$
[07:30] <jhaquo> woot, he made the swap file
[07:30] <variant> apokryphos: it does not, i can assure you
[07:31] <imperfect-> VividHazE : sudo su, enter your user password.
[07:31] <jhaquo> 1500 megs swap file, i have 512ram
[07:31] <ehird> VividHazE: you don't. you use sudo
[07:31] <AlanHaggai> Hi VividHazE : try su
[07:31] <spiderworm> Geoffrey2: how often do you hear of pure linux users switching to windows? never.  windows users may dabble with linux and go back to windows, but there is no true linux to windows migration happening
[07:31] <variant> apokryphos: udev is device file system, not eve a real filesystem and it is stored in virtual memory (incluing ram)
[07:31] <ehird> AlanHaggai: su doesn't work in ubuntu, sudo does
[07:31] <spiderworm> Geoffrey2: it's only happening in one direction: windows to linux
[07:31] <^Ocean^> is there a new version of Flash for linux becuse all of a suddon half the sites i goto are telling me to upgrade flash
[07:31] <AlanHaggai> ehird : it's getting me to the root
[07:31] <variant> jhaquo: yeah, if you are short of disk space you should make hte swap much smaller, other wise you can leave it.. its good if you want to run a virtual machine
[07:31] <apokryphos> jhaquo: ok, then going on what variant has said, gparted it is.
[07:31] <jhaquo> zomg wireless card is automaticaly configured on that laptop haha
[07:31] <imperfect-> I used linux purely. And i now use windows.
[07:31] <imperfect-> It does happen
[07:31] <ehird> AlanHaggai: then you installed something weirdly
[07:31] <imperfect-> I don't know if it's en masse
[07:32] <strabes> unfortunately i have had to duald boot with windows
[07:32] <VividHazE> thanks imperfect, ehird and AlanHaggai :) So how do I change permission on the usr folder so i can add skins for aMSN?
[07:32] <jhaquo> i have 55gigs free, sounds enough for me ^^
[07:32] <AlanHaggai> ehird : really?
[07:32] <strabes> for games lol
[07:32] <jhaquo> thx for the help guys
[07:32] <okiweb> hi I have just installed beryl and xgl and I  have no more windows, xgl and beryl work great but I just cant move the windows or reduce them, the bar on top of every as disappeared, can someone help me ?
[07:32] <ehird> VividHazE: you don't, you copy them with sudo cp
[07:32] <spiderworm> imperfect-: it may happen... but how often compared to the other way around?
[07:32] <ehird> :)
[07:32] <AlanHaggai> VividHazE : chmod it
[07:32] <imperfect-> spiderworm : agreed.
[07:32] <variant> jhaquo: yeah, don't worry about it then. may as well leave it
[07:32] <ehird> AlanHaggai: bad idea
[07:32] <imperfect-> spiderworm : I just don't have the time to nurse my OS anymore, that's all.
[07:32] <VividHazE> ah, ok, looks like its back into endless docs to work that stuff out lol :P Anyway least i know what i'm looking for now
[07:32] <Geoffrey2> spiderworm, but then, "true" linux users generally have a mentality that's totally incompatible with Windows....not to mention a raging, all consuming hatred of Microsoft :)
[07:32] <AlanHaggai> ehird : I am a newbie. Please tell me why?
[07:32] <jhaquo> i tought the installer didnt made any swap partition, didnt want to reinstall everything
[07:32] <VividHazE> <--- total n00b
[07:32] <imperfect-> spiderworm : *tu makes it less of a hassle, I've got ot admit.
[07:33] <variant> jhaquo: if you host a busy website and database then lots and lots of swap is a good thing, otherwise you dont need more than 500mb swap for home desktop
[07:33] <AlanHaggai> VividHazE : me too
[07:33] <ehird> AlanHaggai: if it's root-accessable-only, it's probably that for a reason.
[07:33] <spiderworm> Geoffrey2: you've lumped linux users into a stereotype that simply doesnt hold true of the linux community anymore
[07:33] <okiweb> hi I have just installed beryl and xgl and I  have no more windows, xgl and beryl work great but I just cant move the windows or reduce them, the bar on top of every as disappeared, can someone help me ?
[07:33] <VividHazE> AlanHaggai: :)
[07:33] <imperfect-> Geoffrey2 : That's neccessarily true either. Depends on whom you are talking to. scr1pt k1dz tend to hate Mickeysfot but they can't really even tell you why.
[07:33] <AlanHaggai> thanks ehird :)
[07:33] <ehird> "hi I have just installed beryl and xgl and I  have no more windows, xgl and beryl work great" perplexing sentence
[07:34] <dabaR> ya, the scr1pt k1dz ftw!
[07:34] <spiderworm> Geoffrey2: the linux community has a distribution for every need
[07:34] <mmgrinberg> are Thinkpad T21 graphic problems xgl-related? Everything went perfectly on dapper...
[07:34] <AlanHaggai> Is there any way to run macros in Ubunutu?
[07:34] <variant> ehird: indeed
[07:34] <ehc723> how can i change the frequency of the video card during the install process?
[07:34] <imperfect-> AlanHaggai : Macros?
[07:34] <AlanHaggai> imperfect- yes
[07:34] <variant> AlanHaggai: what do you mean by macro?
[07:34] <dashtu> j #wine
[07:34] <imperfect-> AlanHaggai : ?? You mean like automated scripting?
[07:34] <variant> AlanHaggai: you mean windows scripts?
[07:34] <Geoffrey2> spiderworm, keep in mind, I'm talking to you on a copy of xchat on Dapper, so you don't need to convince ME to use Linux...but I still dual boot and probably will for some time to come
[07:35] <victorh> hi, I have a problem with my network card. I need to change the driver from dmfe to tulip
[07:35] <imperfect-> Geoffrey2 : What do you do on Windows?
[07:35] <AlanHaggai> imperfect- : automated graphical ones
[07:35] <imperfect-> AlanHaggai : Most GUI tools have commandline interfaces.
[07:35] <spiderworm> Geoffrey2: in order for linux to not overcome windows on the desktop, there would need to be a stagnation in the number of windows users that are switching to linux
[07:35] <AlanHaggai> imperfect- like moving the mouse, typing, etc...
[07:35] <luis> hello world
[07:35] <imperfect-> AlanHaggai: There are products for windows, dunno if linux has an analog.
[07:35] <dabaR> hello luis
[07:35] <variant> spiderworm, Geoffrey2 go and take it somewhere else please?
[07:35] <Mariolink> How do I enter the console so I can install an other driver to get rid of the black screen in the installation?
[07:35] <ianmacgregor> Can we please take the Linux vs Windows discussion to another channel?
[07:36] <spiderworm> Geoffrey2: i really doubt thats going to happen anytime soon
[07:36] <AlanHaggai> ok imperfect-
[07:36] <wildchild> varian: I am late sorry: my problem still the same, can't give proper update: http://rafb.net/paste/results/rwRWuh45.html
[07:36] <victorh> how does ubuntu link a device with a driver?
[07:36] <wildchild> variant*
[07:36] <imperfect-> Well, I don't see linux having total Desktop domination anytime soon.
[07:36] <wildchild> variant: http://rafb.net/paste/results/rwRWuh45.html
[07:36] <luis> it is new for me
[07:36] <imperfect-> It's still way too buggy for general users.
[07:36] <okiweb> hi I have just installed beryl and xgl and I  have no more windows, xgl and beryl work great but I just cant move the windows or reduce them, the bar on top of every as disappeared, can someone help me ?
[07:36] <variant> wildchild: yep, checking
[07:36] <spiderworm> imperfect-: it will take time
[07:36] <luis> helpme
[07:36] <victorh> how can I link my network card to a driver
[07:36] <imperfect-> spiderworm: I've been using linux since '95. I'm tired of waiting. ;)
[07:37] <Mariolink> someone?
[07:37] <dabaR> wildchild: post your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[07:37] <imperfect-> spiderworm : I'm tired of my windows xp cd working beautifully on new hardware and my dapper cd's laughing at me. ;)
[07:37] <Geoffrey2> ok, back to why I came here...I downloaded Firefox 2 from mozilla....I've noticed for some reason I seem to have two complete installs of Firefox that ubuntu put in...one in the home directory, one in user/lib....which one should I drop the updated files in?
[07:37] <dabaR> Mariolink: tried alt-ctrl-f1?
[07:37] <ianmacgregor> imperfect- spiderworm: Can we please take the Linux vs Windows discussion to another channel?
[07:37] <Zyfo> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) <- I got that while installing vncserver, what's up?
[07:37] <Lynoure> Why should total desktop domination be even the goal...
[07:37] <Mariolink> when shall I press thar dabar?
[07:37] <luis> how can setting network in ubuntun
[07:37] <spiderworm> ianmacgregor: no worries, im done
[07:37] <dabaR> Zyfo: close all synaptic add/remove programs, and aptitudes
[07:37] <imperfect-> As am I.
[07:37] <luis> I from to ecuador
[07:37] <Zyfo> ok ty
[07:38] <dabaR> Mariolink: well, do you get to boot ubuntu? then
[07:38] <Mariolink> I get to the start menu
[07:38] <dabaR> luis: what does your network use? dsl? dhcp router?
[07:38] <Mariolink> where i can select between install or stating ubuntu etc
[07:38] <luis> static
[07:38] <luis> ip static
[07:38] <dabaR> luis: well, do yuo use the gnome desktop?
[07:38] <[h] tony|afk> hi alle
[07:38] <Mariolink> then i press install and after the splash screen it turns black
[07:39] <variant> wildchild: odd, i dont know what that can be caused by, you can get rid of the erorr by commenting out that line in the sources.list
[07:39] <luis> yes
[07:39] <dabaR> luis: system>admin>networking is where you can set it up
[07:39] <niftydoorways> t
[07:39] <wildchild> variant, dabaR: http://rafb.net/paste/results/n5KKYx35.html
[07:39] <niftydoorways> IRCINMCL
[07:40] <variant> wildchild: ah, ask in #automatix
[07:40] <LjL> niftydoorways: sorry?
[07:40] <niftydoorways> IRC Is Not My Command Line
[07:40] <sidewalk> is there some application for ubuntu, which reminds of FlashFXP?
[07:40] <victorh> I'm having problems with the driver that ubuntu selecte for my networc card
[07:40] <niftydoorways> sidewalk: nautilus
[07:40] <variant> victorh: what is the problem?
[07:41] <luis> config internet compartir
[07:41] <rc-1>  HOLY HELL i was talking to my GF, my screensaver came on, and froze.  nothing worked, had to do a hard reboot.  when i did A LOUD FAN NOISE CAME ON, IT SKIPPED THE BIOS SCREEN, and then until in ubuntu VERTICAL LINES are on my monitor, same thing when i reboot - the fan noise and smoke, any idea whats wrong?
[07:41] <victorh> it happens that Edgy selected the dmfe driver, but It doesn't work, I need to change it for the tulip driver
[07:41] <rc-1> and my mouse cursor has a menu bar floating to the bottom right
[07:41] <rawi> how do I restart apache, i have init.1d init.2d etc..
[07:41] <variant> rc-1: your motherboard sounds fried if there is smoke.. or gfx card
[07:42] <variant> victorh: is your card supported by tulip driver?
[07:42] <rc-1> probably graphics card, seeing as what i have problems with now
[07:42] <variant> victorh: rmmod dmfe; modprobe tulip
[07:42] <victorh> variant: yes I use it in suse
[07:42] <niftydoorways> try a liveCD to check it rc-1
[07:42] <luis> I am speak few english
[07:42] <donfilipo> i need some help with streaming movies...my firefox 2.0 (ubuntu 6.10) does not open any stream?! i'we installed all codecs with automatix but...any one knows something about it?
[07:43] <victorh> variant: that's what I did, but when I type ifup eth0
[07:43] <victorh> it says
[07:43] <dabaR> wildchild: make it look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29406/, then update and see whether that helps.
[07:43] <LjL> !automatix | donfilipo
[07:43] <ubotu> donfilipo: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[07:43] <niftydoorways> luis we can slaughter the english language just as well as you can
[07:43] <luis> speak spanish
[07:43] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell donfilipo about codecs
[07:43] <niftydoorways> not I.
[07:43] <aaronc> I did the upgrade and I'm getting weird font errors followed by an Xserver crash, anyone else seeing that?
[07:43] <niftydoorways> I speak two languages: English and Bad English
[07:43] <eddieduce> What browser (focussing on plugins) has given you users the most success?
[07:43] <rc-1> oh the thing is it still boots into ubuntu, and seems to work, jsut boot is SLOW and vertical lines on the monitor until in ubuntu, and mouse have a permemnant menubar next to it
[07:44] <victorh> variant: this is the error when I type ifup eth0: SIOCSIFADOR: No such device; eth0: error while getting interface falgs: No such device
[07:44] <dabaR> luis: click on the system menu on the top of your screen. Then click on Administration, and there is a tool called Networking in there you can use to set up network in ubuntu.
[07:44] <variant> victorh: yeah, that means that your card is not registerd with the driver
[07:44] <luis> ok
[07:44] <variant> victorh: lsmod | grep tulip
[07:44] <niftydoorways> rc-1: You have turned it right, then waited 10-15 secs then turned it on?
[07:45] <victorh> variant: yep the module is loaded
[07:45] <eexi> hello everyone !!!
[07:45] <niftydoorways> rc-1 turned it off.
[07:45] <rc-1> niftydoorways: yup
[07:45] <dabaR> !es
[07:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:45] <Aaron4444> Hi
[07:45] <niftydoorways> Any overclocking?
[07:45] <eexi> hello from greece
[07:45] <variant> victorh: tbh, it means that your cand is not registerd with the driver, so is not supported by it. perhaps they moved support from tulip code to the other driver in this version?
[07:45] <niftydoorways> rc-1 that is
[07:45] <sidewalk> found one, kasablanka
[07:45] <patrick_king> !p2p
[07:45] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[07:46] <luis> thanks for help
[07:46] <variant> patrick_king: also see www.ircklipper.info
[07:46] <victorh> variant: yes that could be a reason, but the driver that it's loaded automatically (dmfe) does not work :-(
[07:46] <dabaR> welcome
[07:46] <patrick_king> will do
[07:46] <variant> victorh: what is the problem with it?
[07:46] <rc-1> yeah i have, guessing i should turn it off and see whats burned?
[07:46] <eddieduce> What browser (focussing on plugins) has given you users the most success?
[07:46] <gigg865> can anyone provide some guidance on joining a ubuntu desktop into a windows domain?
[07:46] <dabaR> eddieduce: what do you mean?
[07:47] <dabaR> gigg865: just for the shares?
[07:47] <niftydoorways> Yeah, I'd be thinking parts like a capcitor or a voltage regulator
[07:47] <variant> eddieduce: what are you trying to say? success with what? well, firefox did'nt make me a successful business man thats for sure
[07:47] <victorh> variant: it simply starts flashing but it's not working. It happened the same thing before in other distros
[07:48] <variant> victorh: if you type ifconfig eth0 with that driver loaded you get info?
[07:48] <victorh> vairant: but the solution to load the tulip driver, and then restart eth0 always worked
[07:48] <niftydoorways> gotsa leave. Wifey is calling... ahem.
[07:48] <variant> victorh: did you try setting an ip address and suchlike?
[07:48] <donfilipo> LjL i think it was not the fault of automatix...first i instaled real player regularly and got nothing it's a problem...i am an experienced user but i know firefox and mozilla have to have some *.mo files somewhere and if you mess up with first install ot meand trouble you have to put those *,mo files on the right place manually...i just have to know where are they...in which dir?
[07:48] <Aaron4444> If I install an ubuntu server install. will it have SSH running by default?
[07:48] <Zyfo> Warning: grapefactory:1 is taken because of /tmp/.X11-unix/X1 // Remove this file if there is no X server grapefactory:1 // A VNC server is already running as :1. I get that when doing vncserver :1, what should I do? should I start a :2 or wouldn't that work?
[07:48] <variant> donfilipo: slocate them
[07:49] <eddieduce> I am seting up a work bench for replacing several Windows PC's but will only setup one browser and need to know which is the most compatible with the most browsers.
[07:49] <victorh> variant: if I type ifconfig eth0 with the dmfe driver, yes eth0 is recognized and is configured
[07:49] <dabaR> Aaron4444: no
[07:49] <Aaron4444> Would I have to set it up
[07:49] <victorh> variant: if I type ifconfig eth0 with the tulip driver it shows nothing
[07:49] <variant> victorh: you use static ip or dhcp?
[07:49] <dabaR> eddieduce: firefox
[07:49] <linitrofe> How can i install ubuntu from a ubuntu desktop 6.10 cd not using the "live cd" or graphical environment? something like the debian installer?
[07:49] <dt1> If I only have a C drive, do I have to partition that drive before I can install Ubuntu?
[07:49] <variant> Aaron4444: apt-get install openssh-server
[07:49] <cappicrd> I'll soon find out
[07:49] <victorh> variant: I use static IP, and I checked it carefully,
[07:49] <Aaron4444> Variant: once I install it, will it be running?
[07:50] <dabaR> linitrofe: the debian installer is part of the alternate cd, the desktop cd uses ubiquity
[07:50] <variant> victorh: do ifconfig eth0 <iphere> up
[07:50] <rex> help firefox install
[07:50] <victorh> variant: the problem is that Edgy does not want to link the tulip driver with eth0
[07:50] <Flannel> dt1: the installer can partition it, but if you'd partition the ntfs section (thats the windows drive) to it's final size, that's safer
[07:50] <variant> victorh: then route add default gw <gatewayiphere>
[07:50] <dabaR> Aaron4444: yes
[07:50] <linitrofe> ok (y) thank you!
[07:50] <variant> victorh: forget the tulip driver for now. if it was supported it wouldnt say no such device
[07:50] <dt1> Flannel, so that means I have to backup etc since it will be reformatted?
[07:50] <Flannel> dt1: that is, use windows to shrink the ntfs drive, then let linux deal with the rest
[07:50] <dt1> oh.
[07:50] <donfilipo> variant hm...yes i wrote i am an experienced...wrong i am an unexperienced user i need to find firefox dir...where is it in /usr or /bin or????
[07:51] <wildchild> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29407/ my sources list: and after update: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29408/
[07:51] <Flannel> dt1: no, you should be able to just shrink your ntfs
[07:51] <Aaron4444> Thanks Variant and daBaR
[07:51] <victorh> variant: ok, I'll try to configure again eth0
[07:51] <dt1> Flannel, is there a tool to do that?
[07:51] <Actaviosan> Guys I need help in installing ubuntu, someone pm...
[07:51] <ianmacgregor> donfilipo: /usr/share/firefox ?
[07:51] <OliW> so... if I wanted to fix a windows MBR from an Ubuntu live CD... how would I go about doing it?
[07:51] <variant> victorh: are you  using graphical tool to configure it or ifconfig?
[07:51] <Flannel> dt1: in windows? yeah.  lots of partitioners.  No linux stuff, since ntfs isn't entirely figured out yet
[07:51] <victorh> I did it with the GUI
[07:51] <variant> OliW: if you mean installing the windows bootloader, you can (afaik) if you mean installing grub then its simple
[07:51] <LjL> donfilipo, i think you should just be able to install "flashplugin-nonfree" and have it working in firefox, in theory -- are you running a custom version of firefox? are you on edgy or dapper?
[07:52] <SwoOp> why when i boot from 6.10 cd, the X dont start? thx
[07:52] <aoupi> hi, a quick bash question: how do I get a script to send its PID into a file?
[07:52] <dt1> Flannel, I meant in windows, any suggestions?
[07:52] <Flannel> OliW: you need to boot your windows CD to restore the windows bootloader, or just use grub
[07:52] <dabaR> wildchild: like I said, make your sources.list look like shown here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29406/, then update.
[07:52] <Homer> 1091 people holy crap
[07:52] <victorh> variant: I checked /etc/network/interfaces and everything is well
[07:52] <dt1> Flannel, and it's ntfs, works with linux? >_>
[07:52] <OliW> I'd wang grub on if it didn't hate my FAKERAID0
[07:52] <variant> dt1: the parititoner on the ubuntu cd is quite safe to use to shrink an ntfs parititon
[07:52] <numist> aoupi: the pid of the current process should be available as $PID or soomesuch, so just echo $PID > pidfile
[07:52] <Mariolink> When shall i press ctrl+alt+F1 and shall i press F1 or F6 to get rid of the black screen when installing?
[07:52] <aoupi> numist: thx
[07:52] <variant> dt1: yes it does
[07:52] <donfilipo> LjL my flash is working i think and i have 6.10
[07:52] <Flannel> dt1: unfortunately... I can't think of any right now (there are, and I'm sure youve heard of them, Im just being stupid at the moment)
[07:52] <Mariolink> To get the console up
[07:52] <numist> aoupi: note that I dont know the actual env var, it may not be $PID
[07:53] <aoupi> numist: ok, I'll have a look in man bash then :)
[07:53] <El_Che> 21
[07:53] <dt1> Flannel, variant, thanks
[07:53] <variant> victorh: just enter the command directly so we can test this
[07:53] <Flannel> dt1: ntfs is read only (for the time being) in linux, there are some expermental ntfs writing drivers, but they're not entirely tested yet, and can hose your drive
[07:53] <dnite> anyone know how to make ntp update the time a a bit more often? My system clock blows and ends up being 10-15 minutes ahead before ntp updates it.. anyone know where that setting is?
[07:53] <boson_> donfilipo: I've had problems with flash & firefox. What flash are you using?
[07:53] <OliW> and my nlite'd windows CD isn't giving me the option to to get to the recovery console so I'd prefer a linux option =/
[07:53] <variant> victorh: the guy sometimes messes up
[07:53] <brenlae> firefox should auto-install flash 6 when you visit a page with flash
[07:53] <LjL> donfilipo: right, i made a little confusion
[07:53] <brenlae> well, you have to click "Install Plugin"
[07:53] <brenlae> er 7, i think
[07:53] <boson_> brenlae:  It does, but it'll crash
[07:54] <variant> dt1: you can get full and safe read write support with captive ntfs, which loads the windows driver in a wrapper
[07:54] <brenlae> weird, didn't crash for me
[07:54] <victorh> variant: ok, I'll try again using the command you gave me
[07:54] <variant> dt1: it has been around for years and is very safe
[07:54] <brenlae> running edgy
[07:54] <variant> victorh: just do ifconfig eth0 iphere up
[07:54] <variant> victorh: then do ifconfig again
[07:54] <LjL> donfilipo: do you have either totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin or totem-xine-firefox-plugin installed?
[07:54] <boson_> brenlae: Same. Thats when it started dying, when I updated
[07:54] <dt1> alright
[07:54] <dt1> thanks
[07:54] <variant> victorh: and tell me if the ip is shown
[07:54] <donfilipo> LjL wait i will see
[07:55] <thee> variant: what is the command for restarting alsa daemon?
[07:55] <LjL> donfilipo: you can check by typing "apt-cache policy <packagename>"
[07:55] <brenlae> boson_, weird :C
[07:55] <variant> thee: /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
[07:55] <OliW> mkay different question then... has anyone got Ubuntu and nvraid (nforce 4) working?
[07:55] <OliW> dmraid doesn't make it work
[07:55] <victorh> variant: I'll do it, thanks for your help
[07:55] <cello_rasp> help, bash is using 100% CPU but with no reason i can see what is going on???  http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h225/lapsey/Screenshot-1.jpg
[07:55] <variant> victorh: np
[07:56] <Decadent> at the ubuntu guide. At the place where the instructions of how to install beryl are given false links
[07:56] <Decadent> where should i report this??
[07:56] <variant> cello_rasp: looks like its crashed
[07:56] <variant> cello_rasp: kill that specific PID
[07:56] <variant> cello_rasp: not just bash
[07:56] <ZirJoker> is there anyway to uninstall alsa-oss???
[07:56] <Mariolink> Quick question. Is it possible that it is my DVI input that is makes the problem?
[07:57] <SwoOp> anyone has experienced problems with dmraid after upgrading to edgy eft??? ************************
[07:57] <Mariolink> Shall I switch to a VGA?
[07:57] <ZirJoker> is there anyway to uninstall alsa-oss???
[07:57] <variant> ZirJoker: apt-get remove alsa-oss
[07:57] <ZirJoker> :O
[07:57] <ZirJoker> thanks
[07:57] <yul> hello, just moved to Edgy. Everything is fine except the following two things. 1. apt-get upgrade always gives the following error message at the end of the process "Setting up gnome-app-install (0.2.21) ...
[07:57] <yul> Traceback (most recent call last):
[07:57] <yul>   File "/usr/sbin/update-app-install", line 12, in ?
[07:57] <yul>     import xdg.DesktopEntry
[07:57] <yul> ImportError: No module named xdg.DesktopEntry
[07:57] <yul> dpkg: error processing gnome-app-install (--configure):
[07:57] <yul>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[07:57] <thee> variant: thanks but 'command not found'. there is no 'alsasound' in init.d
[07:57] <variant> ZirJoker: dont repeat your self like that
[07:57] <yul> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:57] <yul>  gnome-app-install
[07:57] <yul> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:57] <yul> "
[07:57] <ZirJoker> ok sorry
[07:57] <cello_rasp> variant: that pid doesnt die!!
[07:58] <variant> cello_rasp: kill -9 ?
[07:58] <variant> cello_rasp: then you need to kill hte parent process
[07:58] <donfilipo> LjL don't misunderstand me but synaptic is for new user a balsam in linux i am looking
[07:58] <LjL> Decadent: go to #ubuntu-xgl -- the topic there has links to the guides we generally use
[07:58] <eddieduce> dabaR:  I have tested Firefox but shockwave does not seem to work, nor Quicktime.
[07:58] <Hoxzer> how do I force vlc to use alsa?
[07:58] <cello_rasp> variant: how do i find the parent
[07:58] <GaiaX11> Is Edgy really stable? Or still buggy?
[07:58] <variant> cello_rasp: killing all of the user "public" processes will do it
[07:58] <VividHazE> This CP command is driving me nuts! can anyone help, I've got a folder called Clearlooks in my home directory and I want to copy the whole folder to my /usr/share/amsn/skins folder, what do I type! the man and info pages were way too complicated :S
[07:59] <Geoffrey2> is there a support channel for evolution somewhere?
[07:59] <MarcN> VividHazE: cp -r /from /to
[07:59] <masterninja> ubutnu-uk
[07:59] <aaronc> so can I rollback the update?
[07:59] <LjL> donfilipo: sure, do it in synaptic, i don't care how you do it :-) it's just that 1) it's easier to type commands on IRC, than to give instructions for GUI programs  2) i'm more familiar with the commands
[07:59] <VividHazE> MarcN, do I have to be in the folder with the Clearlooks folder for it to work?
[07:59] <cello_rasp> so it, i'm just going to reboot
[07:59] <aaronc> Can I roll-back the Edgy update?
[08:00] <VividHazE> MarcN, where do I specify the name of the folder.
[08:00] <dabaR> !downgrade
[08:00] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[08:00] <aaronc> heh... well upgrading broke my system
[08:00] <MarcN> VividHazE: not if you give the full pathnames
[08:00] <MasseR> How <an I get my mmc card reader to work in edgy?
[08:00] <GaiaX11> Hi guys. Is Edgy really stable? Or still buggy?
[08:00] <VividHazE> MarcN, ok will give it as hot
[08:00] <VividHazE> * a hot
[08:00] <VividHazE> AH A shot
[08:00] <Geoffrey2> aaronc, my understanding is once you've upgraded, the only way to go back is to fresh install the older version
[08:01] <gnomefreak> GaiaX11: is winxp stable or still buggy?
[08:01] <JDStone> my Ubuntu computer won't boot unless I have 'noapic' in my GRUB conf.  How do I make it so it works with APIC?
[08:01] <gnomefreak> GaiaX11: dont answer just take the hint
[08:01] <JDStone> or is it the mobo?
[08:01] <gnomefreak> GaiaX11: ask what you want to know
[08:01] <yul> the second problem is related to my Proview 716s LCD monitor and ATI card. It says "Mode not supported" at startup. After following the forum thread about updating xorg, I can use X11. But the "mode-not-supported" error is still there. As a result, the first screen I have is the login interface. I couldn't see any boot up information. Any ideas? Thanks a lot!
[08:01] <dabaR> MasseR: type it's model, make, and ubuntu into google and go from there.
[08:01] <VividHazE> MarcN: Sheesh, as simple as that eh :)
[08:01] <MasseR> dabaR: It worked in 2.6.15
[08:01] <VividHazE> thanks
[08:02] <MasseR> dabaR: But I'll try to find out the model
[08:02] <MarcN> VividHazE: 30 year old programs do that you know.
[08:02] <PepperBob> hi everyone!
[08:02] <variant> cello_rasp: ps aux --forest :)
[08:02] <coz_> PepperBob, welcome
[08:02] <dabaR> hi PepperBob
[08:02] <VividHazE> MarcN: Not even a message to say its done :)
[08:02] <VividHazE> hehe
[08:02] <VividHazE> :P
[08:02] <PepperBob> i recently set up dapper drake and my problem is that i can't find the mplayer in the repos.
[08:02] <MarcN> VividHazE: use -v if you want to see more
[08:02] <ianmacgregor> !mplayer
[08:02] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[08:02] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[08:02] <gnomefreak> PepperBob: its in multiverse repo
[08:02] <VividHazE> MarcN: I'm going to have to use Linux for about 30 years before I get the hang of it.
[08:02] <cello_rasp> variant: thx, good to know.
[08:02] <coz_> PepperBob, did you enable multiverse etc in the repos
[08:02] <GaiaX11> gnomefreak: I am thinking about upgrading my dapper, but I am afraid to break my system because everything seems to be very tuned
[08:02] <thee> variant: gnome crashed and restarted. can you repeat what you said please?
[08:02] <VividHazE> My hatred of windoze is keeping me at it though.
[08:03] <variant> cello_rasp: just kill all of the processes of public
[08:03] <PepperBob> coz_, think so. i uncommented those default lines
[08:03] <MarcN> VividHazE: I've only used it for ~20 years ;-)
[08:03] <dabaR> GaiaX11: then don't upgrade. if it works, don't fix it.
[08:03] <cello_rasp> variant: i was running as public
[08:03] <coz_> PepperBob, do me a favor, open sysnaptic
[08:03] <variant> thee: yeah, odd but it seems alsasound doesnt exist.. guess i am getting confused by gentoo (where it does!)
[08:03] <VividHazE> MarcN: Ha, roughly as long as I've been alive!
[08:03] <variant> cello_rasp: i see, you can still do it though
[08:03] <kodat> where the heck is the new thread button on ubuntu forums lol
[08:03] <pipak> hello, I have a question that you might think is weird, but is there a way to install ubuntu booting from a floppy and then using stored data on a usb key? :)
[08:04] <cello_rasp> variant: yeah, jst that the vnc server was running as public as well :|
[08:04] <variant> cello_rasp: kill -9 -1
[08:04] <gnomefreak> GaiaX11: cant take risks stay with dapper. personally i dont have issues with edgy nor dapper nor breezy but some users do
[08:04] <variant> cello_rasp: ah
[08:04] <thee> variant: ok.
[08:04] <gnomefreak> GaiaX11: it is stable though
[08:04] <coz_> PepperBob, are you still there
[08:04] <PepperBob> coz_, i opened it
[08:04] <VividHazE> One thing I love about Linux is no matter how many windows I seem to have open it never seems crowded.
[08:04] <coz_> PepperBob, ok under settings click repositories
[08:05] <cello_rasp> thanks tho. if it happens again i know how to find the problem
[08:05] <PepperBob> okay.
[08:05] <coz_> PepperBob, we will do this the gui way
[08:05] <PepperBob> coz_, well i'm not used to it, but np of course :)
[08:05] <coz_> PepperBob, now you have a window with a  list of repos right?
[08:05] <PepperBob> yes.
[08:05] <PepperBob> all are activated but the cd-rom repos and 2 security repos
[08:05] <coz_> PepperBob, highlight one and click the add button
[08:05] <PepperBob> coz_,
[08:05] <PepperBob> ok
[08:05] <donfilipo> Ljl i have neither installed not Totem Firefox Plugin - xine version nor totem Firefox Plugin - gstreamer version....wich one should i use or can i install both?
[08:06] <coz_> PepperBob, then tick the unticked boxes and xlick ok but don't go back into that repo
[08:06] <coz_> PepperBob, do that for each one
[08:06] <PepperBob> coz_, shall i add?
[08:06] <xst> I just upgraded from kubuntu dapper to edgy and suddenly the 3D viewport in blender (a 3d-application) is extremely slow. Has anyone a solution to this problem?
[08:06] <coz_> PepperBob, yes tick the boxes under add
[08:07] <coz_> PepperBob, do that for each of the repos
[08:07] <PepperBob> coz_, think i did so
[08:07] <coz_> PepperBob, I realize this is the long way, but sometimes it works better
[08:08] <PepperBob> coz_, don't worry. basically: i have enough time ;)
[08:08] <coz_> PepperBob,  after you doa llt eh ropos liske that close out of the repos window and reload synaptic with the reload button
[08:08] <ianmacgregor> Since Edgy is out now, will Dapper only be getting security updates from now on?
[08:08] <coz_> PepperBob, after you do that for each repos
[08:08] <LjL> donfilipo: well, i'm taking the information from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-e25afe1552d3a818f60e64143931b2d8e0522267 --- see if you have either totem-gstreamer or totem-xine installed... you should install the one for the one you have. probably gstreamer i think
[08:08] <donfilipo> hm LjL problem Synaptic says for those plugins no go with ubuntu dekstop ????????
[08:08] <Lynoure> ianmacgregor: I have been wondering about that, too
[08:09] <PepperBob> coz_, okay got it. thanks!
[08:09] <LjL> donfilipo: hm?
[08:09] <coz_> PepperBob, ok hve fun
[08:09] <donfilipo> LjL see ig i check either of them it has to uninstall the ubuntu desktop
[08:10] <LjL> donfilipo: well actually, there seems to be something broken with them here, as well (they just won't show up)
[08:10] <victorh> variant: I'm back, have no luck
[08:10] <dabaR> donfilipo: it is fine to remove it if you want the plugin removed
[08:11] <donfilipo> dabaR so it means it's not compatible with some libs...i do not have to remove plugins i do not have them installed but how to get my firefox stremaing????
[08:11] <victorh> variant: I'm clueless, I've worked perfectly with my network card, but with the tulip driver
[08:12] <victorh> even in older versions of Ubuntu
[08:12] <coz_> donfilipo, what do you want to do .. play movies liek from apple movie trailers
[08:12] <patrick_king> !p2p
[08:12] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[08:12] <patrick_king> !frostwire
[08:12] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:13] <coz_> donfilipo, do you have the mozilla-mplayer plugin installed
[08:13] <LjL> dabaR, FYI, packages totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin and totem-xine-firefox-plugin are mentioned in the RestrictedFormats page, but they don't appear to be available in my Edgy
[08:13] <masterninja> how do i install a driver?
[08:13] <donfilipo> coz_  yes i am a scientist i study boobs :) i wloud like to watch trailers or web tv and so on? you know what i mean?
[08:13] <LjL> dabaR: (an "apt-cache show" says nothing, i.e. it doesn't say the package doesn't exist, it just returns me to the prompt)
[08:13] <coz_> donfilipo, do you have the mozilla-mplayer plugin installed?
[08:13] <MasseR> Okay it's back to 2.6.15 for me. I hope there aren't any important updates from it :)
[08:14] <MasseR> But it's the only one working for me
[08:14] <coz_> masterninja, what driver do you need for what?
[08:14] <donfilipo> coz_ just a sec i am cheking
[08:14] <masterninja> cisco systems wifi laptop card
[08:15] <caolan> Hi everyone, I've recently noticed that my windows partition has stopped showing up when I click Places>Computer in Ubuntu 6.10, can anyone help me out with this?
[08:15] <ToHellWithGA> is anybody having trouble with ktorrent, as packaged, not properly downloading chunks?
[08:15] <jenda> !jre
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <jenda> !java
[08:15] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:15] <manmadha> caolan, u have to mount the partitions
[08:15] <coz_> !beryl
[08:15] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[08:16] <donfilipo> coz_ yes MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla installed
[08:16] <caolan> manmadha, how do I go about doing that? can you give me the commands?
[08:16] <coz_> donfilipo, and do you have all of the codecs necessary?
[08:16] <jenda> Why does firefox complain it doesn't have JRE when I have it installed and it works with Azureus?
[08:16] <caolan> I only installed linux a couple of days ago
[08:16] <donfilipo> yes coz_
[08:16] <coz_> donfilipo, how did you nstall the codecs
[08:16] <manmadha> caolan, first see the out put of cmd fdisk -l
[08:17] <coz_> donfilipo, did you use a how to
[08:17] <manmadha> caolan, then mount /source /destination
[08:17] <manmadha> caolan, read man mount
[08:17] <donfilipo> coz_ my players will play movies just streams are problem i instaled codecs with automatix
[08:17] <caolan> manmadha, thanks... I'll let you know if it works :)
[08:17] <SwoOp> why when i boot from 6.10 cd, the X dont start? thx
[08:18] <coz_> donfilipo, ok i will give you a link, i wanat you to follow it just in case hold on
[08:18] <SwoOp> i tried safe graphics
[08:18] <Jon335> I am running Edgy with a wacom Graphire3 (followed directions in wiki). My scroll wheel is reversed, how do I fix that?
[08:18] <SwoOp> :S
[08:18] <coz_> donfilipo, go to this link, read carefully and make sure you use the direction for the version you are on
[08:19] <coz_> donfilipo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[08:19] <ahmeni> Jon335: did the directions make you put a line like Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5" in your xorg.conf?
[08:19] <anette_> hey. can someone help med mount a lvm-partition?
[08:19] <coz_> donfilipo, don't over look anything dealing with codecs on that page
[08:20] <tim__> How do i resize my ntfs windows partition and my ubuntu partition, giving some more space for ubuntu :D. i cant do it from gparted from ubuntu and if i do it from the ubuntu livecd it gives me some error too. i could probably do it with partition magic or something similar from windows, but i know all of these nice opensource tools should be able to do it just fine. What am i doing wrong, i know that i have to unmount the partition before
[08:20] <tim__>  i perform any actions.
[08:20] <MasseR> !w32codecs
[08:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:20] <donfilipo> ok coz_ i will read it and report the progress thanks for now
[08:20] <coz_> donfilipo,  come back later
[08:20] <donfilipo> coz_ will do
[08:20] <anette_> hey. can someone help med mount a lvm-partition? anyone have any experience?
[08:22] <caolan> manmadha, I think I have managed to mount the drive at /media/windows but when I try to open that folder it says permission denied
[08:22] <MasseR> Hmm.. My apt-get seems to be broken o.O
[08:22] <MasseR> synaptic segfaults
[08:22] <MasseR> And apt-get segfaults
[08:22] <MasseR> aptitude segfaults
[08:22] <anette_> hey. can someone help med mount a lvm-partition? anyone have any experience?
[08:23] <jenda> nvm the above question.
[08:23] <ZirJoker> i have a problem installing mercury messenger i followed instructions and hits happens to me: joker@joker-desktop:~$ ln -s /usr/share/Mercury/Mercury_Messenger /usr/bin/Mercury_Messenger
[08:23] <ZirJoker> ln: creando el enlace simblico `/usr/bin/Mercury_Messenger' a `/usr/share/Mercury/Mercury_Messenger': Permiso denegado
[08:23] <imperfect-> anette_: ls /dev/mapper
[08:23] <imperfect-> anette_: What's it called?
[08:23] <imperfect-> anette_: mount it ;)_
[08:23] <anette_> imperfect-, i don't have any mapper in my /dev
[08:23] <imperfect-> anette_: Or are you trying to extend your volume?
[08:23] <anette_> imperfect-, no, just trying to mount a lvm partiton on another hard drive to my /mnt/ folder
[08:24] <imperfect-> anette_: are you using lvm current;ly?
[08:24] <byro> Zirjoker: sudo ln -s /usr/share/Mercury/Mercury_Messenger /usr/bin/Mercury_Messenger
[08:24] <anette_> imperfect-, i want to mount this: /dev/hda2              14       30401   244091610   8e  Linux LVM
[08:24] <anette_> imperfect-, no, now i use ext3
[08:24] <ZirJoker> :O thx.. im noob i often forget to put sudo Xd
[08:25] <byro> I accidentally did a tar cjf --preserve u /home/ubuntu and it created a file named --preserve that I couldn't rm... fortunately this was on /dev/shm, but if I had done it to a disk, how would I remove the file?
[08:25] <caolan> can anyone help me with permissions on my mounted win partition? I mounted the ntfs drive at /media/windows but when I try to open that folder it says permission denied
[08:25] <tim__> What is the best way of removing my windows partition, i wanne go all ubuntu ;D ?
[08:25] <Commander-Crowe> is it possible to do a text(command line) installation of ubuntu from the normal disk?
[08:25] <sledge_at_work> byro: rm -- --preserve
[08:26] <anette_> imperfect-, any idea?
[08:26] <imperfect-> anette_ : What's pvscan say?
[08:26] <byro> sledge_at_work: thanx! I had a horrible thought about having a file on my hdd that I couldn't rm...thanx
[08:26] <anette_> imperfect-, command not found.. i
[08:26] <moolcool> howdy
[08:26] <moolcool> '] =\
[08:26] <sledge_at_work> byro: no problem. keep in mind that '--' works for most other unix tools, too.
[08:27] <sledge_at_work> byro: try `touch -- -rf` :P
[08:27] <Commander-Crowe> anyone?
[08:27] <imperfect-> anette_: sudo su; apt-get install lvm2
[08:27] <GaiaX11> This channel has more than a 1000 people it did not use to be like that. What's happening? Are people leaving other linux distributions and coming to ubuntu?
[08:27] <byro> sledge_at_work: I feel stupid now... I see that in the man page.. DOH! (teach me to look there FIRST) anyhoo thanx!
[08:28] <anette_> imperfect-, ok, what now?
[08:28] <MasseR> -.-; And even 2.6.15 won't install ..
[08:28] <Commander-Crowe> is it possible to do a command line installation of ubuntu from the normal disk?
[08:28] <MasseR> *compile
[08:28] <moolcool> this chat was featured on call for help with leo laporte
[08:28] <JamieBE> I have been looking at the forums for HOURS NOW and have been searching for >>MONTHS<< for a solution can someone please, for the love of god, please please please tell me how to get all of my 5.1 surround sound speakers working with Ubuntu?
[08:29] <imperfect-> anette_: pvscan?
[08:29] <drEAm> hi
[08:29] <byro> GaiaX11: I hope so, except I am still partial to Fedora too
[08:29] <byro> Linux just plain rox
[08:29] <JamieBE> ...Please.
[08:29] <byro> this ubuntu 6.06 lts live cd rox... keeps me out of Windoze .. ;)
[08:30] <SwoOp> anyone can help me?
[08:30] <drEAm> anyone, looking 4 some info on alternate install (cd) 4 ubuntu, any hint?
[08:30] <cpl-tnt44> i have a program here to install , how do i install it ?
[08:30] <rag> hello folks
[08:30] <cpl-tnt44> i have a program here to install , how do i install it ? command ?
[08:30] <Gotti> I don't know why people are going crazy over Picasa...it's hideous...
[08:30] <anette_> cpl-tnt44, what program?
[08:30] <necromauncer> Do you know which soundchip you are using, jamie?
[08:30] <Tomcat_> dream: No metaquestions please. :o
[08:30] <edeca> cpl-tnt44: Check if it's in apy first
[08:30] <rag> how to install kubuntu on Celeron, somebody ?
[08:30] <edeca> cpl-tnt44: apt
[08:30] <GaiaX11> JamieBE: Look in ubuntu hardware to see if your sound card is supported, first.
[08:30] <edeca> rag: Put in the CD, boot from it? :)
[08:30] <cpl-tnt44> well im looking for a good IRC client
[08:30] <drEAm> what's a problem rag?
[08:30] <SwoOp> how can i run the classic installer on ubuntu 6.10?
[08:31] <edeca> cpl-tnt44: irssi, bitchx, xchat (for a GUI)
[08:31] <rag> drEAm, liveCD restart always
[08:31] <JamieBE> necromauncer: SiS SI7012 Realtek ALC650E according to AlsaMixer
[08:31] <imperfect-> anette_: Any luck?
[08:31] <moolcool> linux saved me, my windows with all my schoolwork stopped booting on my laptop! i switched this weekend and will never look back
[08:31] <byro> cpl-tnt44: try grabbing xchat out of the ubuntu repositories
[08:31] <GaiaX11> SwoOp: What do you mean by classic installer?
[08:31] <SwoOp> how can i boot into the classic installer on ubuntu 6.10 install disc?
[08:31] <cpl-tnt44> edeca , i downloaded ghoti , and now what is the command in the terminal for install ?
[08:31] <drEAm> even when u eject cd rag? ;)
[08:31] <edeca> SwoOp: If you mean the text based installer, use the alternative CD possibly
[08:31] <anette_> imperfect-, im on a private chat with u? shall we contine there?
[08:31] <imperfect-> anette_ that's fine.
[08:32] <xst> After upgrading to edgy the screen is completely blank upon booting. The first non-black screen I see is the logon-screen. Is this a bug?
[08:32] <edeca> cpl-tnt44: There should be a README or INSTALL file to check, but you'd be better looking for it in apt
[08:32] <rag> drEAm, no no, i can't install because system restart always
[08:32] <drEAm> swoop any url width more info 4 alternate?
[08:32] <rag> drEAm, do you know please
[08:32] <cpl-tnt44> edeca , im new to linux , plz just tell me the command i will figure things out later
[08:32] <SwoOp> yes please
[08:32] <edeca> cpl-tnt44: apt-cache search <package>
[08:32] <anette_> imperfect-, can u answer me private?
[08:32] <edeca> cpl-tnt44: Go look for a basic apt tutorial
[08:32] <drEAm> rag, try alternate install or xubuntu
[08:32] <MasseR> Argh.. So I can't compile 2.6.15 -> I can't get working fglrx, 2.6.17 doesn't work, 2.6.18 doesn't work
[08:32] <SavageNL> compudaze, Hi again
[08:33] <JamieBE> necromauncer: Please please tell me you have something here, I am on the verge of going back to my wicked Microsoft ways. I just want my sound to work properly on Linux. :(
[08:33] <Maggotin> Hello, what are the hotkeys to restart x? Coz I keep restarting it
[08:33] <rag> drEAm, system restart i cant install because livecd restart always, it for AMD Sempron too :(
[08:33] <mjelva> ubuntu fails at mounting samba shares on startup. i'm able to mount it by bashing 'mount -a' as root. how can i automate this process?
[08:33] <edeca> I've installed a server from the alternate CD, is it safe to remove packages if they get rid of the (virtual?) packages like ubuntu-minimal?
[08:33] <Gotti> Maggotin, Ctrl Alt Backspace
[08:33] <drEAm> ctrl alt backspace maggotin
[08:33] <rag> drEAm, ok do you know a guide for alternate?
[08:33] <imperfect-> You haven't said anything to me in privmsg
[08:33] <Maggotin> Is there any other way?
[08:33] <SwoOp> what is the alternative cd?
[08:33] <rag> drEAm, xubuntu i have same problem...
[08:33] <Maggotin> Or somethink like restarting x, like closing session
[08:33] <Gotti> Maggotin, are you running Compiz?
[08:34] <edeca> SwoOp: Google it, I found it earlier
[08:34] <drEAm> nope, but i am looking rag
[08:34] <Maggotin> Yep
[08:34] <drEAm> what system rag u have?
[08:34] <SwoOp> is ti official?
[08:34] <SwoOp> is it official?
[08:34] <edeca> SwoOp: Yes
[08:34] <kodat> hey guy..i know smoeone fixed this for me already, but the only way i can get my wireless to turn on is by doing sudo modprobe bcm43xx in terminal, is there a file i can edit somewhere that will fix it
[08:34] <Gotti> Maggotin, i think Shift Backspace restarts X in Compiz..It's a bug...search the forums...
[08:34] <cpl-tnt44> edeca , apt tuturial ? where ?
[08:34] <edeca> kodat: Look at /etc/modules*
[08:34] <rag> dream, 2 machines AMD Sempron and 2 machines Celeron 2,4 Ghz
[08:34] <mjelva> kodat: /etc/modules
[08:34] <edeca> cpl-tnt44: www.google.com
[08:34] <cpl-tnt44> :)
[08:34] <Maggotin> Ill check now if it restarts :P
[08:34] <rag> drEAm, 2 machines AMD Sempron and 2 machines Celeron 2,4 Ghz
[08:34] <drEAm> mb rag?
[08:34] <Gotti> I guess it does...hehe
[08:34] <kodat> edeca, what should i be looking for in modules
[08:34] <rag> drEAm,mb ?
[08:34] <emanuelez> no sound with the flash 9 beta... any hint?
[08:34] <drEAm> what motherboard  rag?
[08:35] <edeca> kodat: Look at the file and see, you'll figure it out
[08:35] <mjelva> ubuntu fails at mounting samba shares on startup. i'm able to mount it by bashing 'mount -a' as root. how can i automate this process?
[08:35] <edeca> emanuelez: Do you use KDE or Gnome?
[08:35] <emanuelez> edeca: openbox
[08:35] <anette_> imperfect-, i tried pvscan and got this: No program "pvscan" found for your current version of LVM
[08:35] <kodat> edeca, k
[08:35] <moolcool> to install
[08:35] <moolcool> boot to live cd and double click install
[08:35] <moolcool> i dont think there is a command
[08:35] <rag> drEAm, i think Asrock
[08:35] <MasseR> -.-; I wonder if this would work with gentoo..
[08:35] <edeca> emanuelez: It's possible that the sound system (esd or arts) is blocking it
[08:35] <JamieBE> My sound card is detected, and the front two speakers work. It's the rear ones, the sub and the centre that won't do anything. PLEEEASE?
[08:35] <edeca> emanuelez: Ah, I'm unsure then, but check whether it can access /dev/dsp
[08:35] <SwoOp> thx
[08:35] <emanuelez> edeca: how do i do that?
[08:36] <drEAm> what version of ubuntu u use rag?
[08:36] <edeca> emanuelez: Run a web browser (or the standalone flash player) from a terminal then watch for errors
[08:36] <kodat> edeca, there is nothing blacklisted.  should i add the bcm43xx?
[08:36] <emanuelez> k
[08:36] <moolcool> how much work is it to switch to kbuntu from ubuntu 6.10 and is it destructive?
[08:36] <rag> drEAm, i test kubuntu 6.06 and 6.10 and xubuntu
[08:36] <GaiaX11> JamieBE: I think that it is because the lines in the back of you pc. Have a look
[08:36] <elessar_>   
[08:36] <necromauncer> Try opening terminal, an type alsamixer
[08:36] <elessar_> Hi to all
[08:37] <drEAm> wait rag...
[08:37] <rag> drEAm, thx a lot
[08:37] <Gotti> elessar_, exactly!
[08:37] <c0ol> Hello
[08:37] <Tim90> were can i get drivers for a z600 printer
[08:37] <Tim90> lexmark
[08:37] <elessar_> can anyone help me
[08:37] <elessar_> I have copied VCD .dat files to my hdd
[08:37] <JamieBE> GaiaX11 - I have been researching this for months. Literally. It works fine under Windows XP, but I really wan't to be free of that and move permanently to Linux. This is one of a few things really starting to p*ss me off though.
[08:37] <elessar_> but now I cant play them with totem player
[08:38] <necromauncer> elessar: use VLC player
[08:38] <drEAm> ej rag... try this.... disable sound in bios before install
[08:38] <c0ol> Can anyone point me to a guide on setting up ubuntu as a network bridge?
[08:38] <MasseR> Edgy has given me nothing but trouble on my laptop -.-
[08:38] <mzelem>  I tried to install jedit in edgy using the directions at ubuntuguide.org but it had errors installing and now I can't uninstall it and if I use apt-get I can't install anything else because it says I have to re-install jedit but I can't re-install jedit because it won't install
[08:38] <emanuelez> edeca: i get a bunch of these:
[08:38] <Tim90> were can i get driver for a z600 lexmark printer
[08:38] <emanuelez> ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:185:(make_local_socket) socket failed: Too many open files
[08:38] <emanuelez> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:851:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to connect client
[08:38] <emanuelez> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1305:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card
[08:38] <Gotti> MasseR, Linux in general is trouble on a laptop...
[08:38] <mzelem> could someone please help me with that?
[08:39] <GaiaX11> JamieBE: Calm down. Linux is like that. You will have a long way to learn how things work.
[08:39] <JamieBE> Other things being rubbish NTFS support, FAT32 corruption, Samba sharing issues and no proer flash player.
[08:39] <edeca> emanuelez: Ah, something is up with alsa then
[08:39] <cpl-tnt44> "sudo apt-get install xirc " >>>> couldn't find package ... how do i install that package ?
 Thanks for your help :)
[08:39] <edeca> emanuelez: That's not an error I've seen before though, sorry
[08:39] <MasseR> Gotti: True... Dapper worked perfectly though..
[08:39] <drEAm> rag did u read it?  and how many MB inserted u have on asrock mb?
[08:39] <emanuelez> i see
[08:39] <necromauncer> elessar: VLC is in the Universe repository
[08:39] <emanuelez> edeca: what should i have in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc ?
[08:39] <Gotti> MasseR, yeah...I have a laptop too...i usually don't rush to upgrade for the very same reason...what seems to be broken now?
[08:39] <edeca> emanuelez: No idea, mine "just works"
[08:40] <JamieBE> Sorry GaiaX11, It's just this OS is advertised as "Linux for human beings" and so far it's just made me act more like a computer.
[08:40] <D0wn> How do I get /dev/hdb to mount automatically when i stick a cd in
[08:40] <moolcool> how do i switch to kbuntu?
[08:40] <elessar_> I have It already, It' just I have used totem for  movies
[08:40] <MasseR> Gotti: With 2.6.18, NIC, MMC reader
[08:40] <cpl-tnt44> "sudo apt-get install xirc " >>>> couldn't find package ... how do i install that package ?
[08:40] <emanuelez> edeca: which means "none" as dsp i guess
[08:40] <Gotti> moolcool "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[08:40] <rag> drEAm, ram?
[08:40] <necromauncer> JamieBE Have you tried typing ALSAMIXER in the terminal?
[08:40] <drEAm> yeap rag... did u try 2 disable sound in bios?
[08:40] <moolcool> is switching to kbuntu destructive?
[08:40] <Zaggynl> Who has a GF6600GT in here?
[08:40] <JamieBE> necromauncer, it just reiterates exactly what the Gnome GUI mixer shows.
[08:40] <Gotti> MasseR, I've never gotten my card reader to work...and as for the NIC...what specifically?
[08:40] <rag> drEAm, ok disable sound?
[08:40] <edeca> cpl-tnt44: apt-cache search <package>
[08:40] <jcooke> anyone have a broadcom 43xx working in edgy? curious before I upgrade
[08:40] <Gotti> moolcool, nope...not at all.
[08:41] <MasseR> Gotti: mmc worked fine in dapper, NIC is broadcom 4400
[08:41] <moolcool> cool, thx
[08:41] <drEAm> yeap and see if restarts exist again... rag
[08:41] <cpl-tnt44> apt-cache search <package> ????
[08:41] <rag> drEAm, i dont have computers here, tomorrow yeah, is for my customers
[08:41] <xst> After upgrading to edgy I have no longer "direct rendering" (glxinfo). I have a Matrox Millenium G550 (the mga driver). What to do? It worked just fine in dapper
[08:41] <MasseR> Gotti: Hold on I'll give you a link to my nic problem
[08:41] <fydo> JamieBE: does your soundcard driver have support for more than 2 channels?
[08:41] <drEAm> rag customers... no u r hw man :))
[08:41] <Gotti> MasseR, have you added bcm43xx to the blacklist and used ndiswrapper instead? that seems to work better for me...
[08:41] <rag> drEAm, ok i disable bios sound
[08:41] <Gotti> MasseR, k
[08:41] <bobby_>  Zaggynl: I have a GF6600T
[08:41] <bobby_> GT*
[08:41] <rag> drEAm, yeah clients
[08:41] <Zaggynl> bobby_, what fps do you get with glxgears?
[08:41] <MasseR> Gotti: broadcom 4400, not the 43** :). Ethernet
[08:41] <drEAm> hehe rag
[08:42] <jcooke> Gotti you using your 43xx in Edgy?
[08:42] <JamieBE> fydo: Sound card has support for 5.1 Surround (5 satellites and one Sub-Woofer)
[08:42] <rag> drEAm, say me
[08:42] <drEAm> yeap rag
[08:42] <Gotti> MasseR, ahh...my aplogies...link?
[08:42] <rag> drEAm, sorry i dont understand you
[08:42] <Gotti> jcooke, yes..no problems..
[08:42] <bobby_> Zaggynl: i cant check that right now since im at my job, but i get decent frame rates playing WoW in my Ubuntu
[08:42] <fydo> JamieBE: thats nice, but does your sound card *driver* have support for more than 2 channels?
[08:42] <drEAm> no worry rag, neither i :)
[08:42] <Zaggynl> bobby_, ah okay
[08:42] <JamieBE> fydo: 3x3.5 stereo jacks for Front, Rear, Sub/Centre
[08:42] <Ramunas> hey, I'm on edgy, using nv driver with my ge force 6100, whjch tutorial should I use for XGL + Compiz?
[08:42] <jcooke> Gotti, same method as in Dapper?
[08:42] <rag> drEAm, what other thing , only possible sound or more? please
[08:42] <MasseR> Gotti: Hold on, finding it
[08:42] <JamieBE> fydo: How do I check?
[08:43] <fydo> google.com
[08:43] <JamieBE> fydo: As far as I can tell, I am using the default driver.
[08:43] <Gotti> jcooke, not at all...give me a second i'll find your answer
[08:43] <drEAm> i got that problem width 1 mb.... so it is hint... try it...
[08:43] <drEAm> do not know ... rag... now...
[08:43] <MasseR> Gotti: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1684452
[08:43] <jcooke> Gotti, currently in dapper using ndiswrapper
[08:43] <fydo> there isn't a 'default' driver, just as there isn't a 'default' sound card
[08:43] <c0ol> Is it possible to use linux as a network bridge between a wireless device and a non-wireless device? I have this setup using windows XP but for obvious reasons I would prefer this linux computer to do that task.
[08:43] <rag> drEAm, i have a 192 mb ram on one computer, and other 512 mb
[08:44] <JamieBE> fydo: what do you suggest I do?
[08:44] <JamieBE> fydo: My driver is snd-intel8x0,i810_audio
[08:44] <drEAm> 4 this 192 u have u use alternate (u count vga memory) or xubuntu...
[08:44] <Tim90> lexmark z600 driver ?
[08:44] <Gotti> jcooke, you'l' notice that there are two ndiswrappers in the repos in edgy...i believe that you use the ndiswrapper-1.1 .. secondly it will spit out something about a missing ko file...use apt-file to figure out which package contains that file...install that...and use ndisrapper as you would on dapper
[08:45] <Pensacola> are there other kernels available for edgy?
[08:45] <anette_> can someone help me with mounting a lvm-volume??
[08:45] <Gotti> MasseR, looking now...
[08:45] <drEAm> 256mb is min 4 classic install non counting vga memory (onboard if u have)....
[08:45] <jcooke> Gotti, I'll probably just compile from source like I did on Dapper, thanks for confirming though :D
[08:45] <MasseR> Gotti: Thanks :)
[08:45] <GaiaX11> Tim90: Lexmark belongs to the dark side of the power and it will not work under linux. Sell it and buy a HP or Epson
[08:46] <JamieBE> fydo: As I won't be buying a new sound card, will I have to be reverting to Windows?
[08:46] <nathansnook7> artsd is crashing with error of cpu overload
[08:46] <anette_> can someone help me with mounting a lvm-volume??
[08:46] <nathansnook7> anyone offer some help
[08:46] <bobby_> JamieBE: what people here is suggesting is for you to check out your driver documentation to see if your driver supports more than 2 channel, because even if your sound card supports 2 billion channels, software cant access it if your driver cant.
[08:46] <jhaquo> im installing kde (in gnome) and my menus (aplications palces systems and the bar at the bottom screen) froze
[08:46] <JamieBE> fydo: Something I really want to avoid, for so many obvious reasons.
[08:46] <jhaquo> how can i deblock them?
[08:46] <Gotti> jcooke, ... yes source will work nicely...i just never had the patience...:P MasseR, no problem...i've read about this somewhere else on the forums..a solution was provided...let me see if i can find it...as im using wireless i can't tell you off the top of my head how to fix it
[08:47] <drEAm> Anyone from Croatia?
[08:47] <JamieBE> bobby_ I have "googled" snd-intel8x0,i810_audio and it returns no specific matches
[08:47] <fydo> bobby_: exactly
[08:47] <JamieBE> Ill BBS - If anyone has any solutions can they please PM me with them. I would REALLY appreciate help on this. Thanks.
[08:47] <sidewalk> can anyone recommend a tv-viewer for Linux?
[08:47] <jcooke> Gotti, you on a pavilion dv8k ?
[08:48] <MasseR> Gotti: I tried moving the source, but the problem still occurred.. So I'm thinking I did something wrong.
[08:48] <fydo> JamieBE_BBS:  here is the Alsa page on intel sound: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Intel#matrix
[08:48] <MasseR> Gotti: One solution was to install old bcm4400 drivers but I didn't get it to compile
[08:48] <_Brandon_> i've installed acx100 drivers but now i can't see the device with iwconfig/ifconfig
[08:48] <rag> drEAm, pleaes put rag before , please
[08:48] <cpl-tnt44> BRANDON ! I LOVE YOU !
[08:49] <cpl-tnt44> BRANDON ! I LOVE YOU ! what card do u have ?
[08:49] <cartucho> great xgl and ati are playing very nice ?)
[08:49] <cartucho> :)
[08:49] <cpl-tnt44> Dlink 650+ ?
[08:49] <_Brandon_> 520+
[08:49] <donfilipo> coz_ are you still there?
[08:49] <drEAm> i always do rag, when i talking 2 u :)
[08:49] <cpl-tnt44> is it the same chipset i think
[08:49] <cpl-tnt44> how did u installed the ndiswrapper with that ?
[08:49] <Gotti> jcooke, pavillion zv5000...same hardware
[08:49] <clyrrad> Does anybody know what install switches can be used during install?  Like 'server' or the like?  I want to install the OS with out having to boot the Live CD image first - does anyone know how to do this - or what options are available??
[08:50] <Gotti> MasseR, what was the error at compile time?
[08:50] <fydo> JamieBE_BBS: also ensure you're using an app that supports 5.1 sound to test your card/drivers... I'd personally recommend playing a dvd with mplayer
[08:50] <jokesrus> hello ppl. Has anyone "found" the missing shutdown button from gnome with xgl/beryl ?
[08:50] <MasseR> Gotti: Didn't find sources/headers even though they were there
[08:50] <jcooke> Gotti, you have any trouble with getting the ATI card working as well?
[08:50] <tapas> does ubuntu use hotplug?
[08:50] <_Brandon_> cpl-tnt44: i've not used the ndiswrapper
[08:50] <Electronbeam> Hi there
[08:50] <jcooke> Gotti, with full 3d acceleration rather
[08:51] <rag> drEAm , ok 192 install alternate or xubuntu
[08:51] <D0wn> Is /dev/hdb to read a cd and not burn?
[08:51] <Gotti> jcooke, yeah...but it seems we have different cards. I have an nvidia. sorry :/ ATI's are a royal pain in the royal arse...royally.
[08:51] <Electronbeam> im having an unknown interrupt or fault at EIP error when trying to start the 6.10 live CD? and clues as to how to fix that?
[08:51] <rag> drEAm, thanks a lot
[08:52] <Gotti> MasseR, .... hmm...the kernel sources im assuming?
[08:52] <MasseR> Gotti: Yes
[08:52] <cpl-tnt44> How do i switch betwenn lang in ubuntu ?
[08:52] <cpl-tnt44> How do i switch betwenn lang in ubuntu ? any button combo ?
[08:52] <anette_> can someone help me with mounting a lvm-volume??
[08:52] <Gotti> Masser, that's odd...are you sure all *dev related packages were installed?
[08:52] <donfilipo> coz_ are you still there?
[08:52] <MasseR> Gotti: I think so
[08:53] <fatig>    ???
[08:53] <Gotti> MasseR, double check that...that's usually the problem with those sorts of errors.
[08:53] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: can you type the full message?
[08:53] <MasseR> Gotti: Like what dev packages?
[08:53] <MasseR> It complained about missing linux/config.h and such
[08:53] <Gotti> MasseR, I'd have to see the actual error :P
[08:53] <Electronbeam> yes, i first need to make the error happen again and write it down
[08:53] <Electronbeam> PSUSI, one moment
[08:53] <bobby_> MasseR: probably installing linux-headers ?
[08:54] <MasseR> bobby_: I installed linux-headers
[08:54] <cpl-tnt44> How do i switch betwenn lang in ubuntu ? any button combo ?
[08:54] <D0wn> heh
[08:54] <MasseR> But installing bcm4400 gave me that
[08:54] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: also what kind of hardware are you using?  is it an amd64?
[08:54] <Electronbeam> no.
[08:54] <cheesy> What does this measn: Disk error 20, AX=4200, drive 9F
[08:54] <PSUSI> ok, so you are using the i386 livecd?
[08:54] <Electronbeam> an intel x86 Celeron D
[08:54] <Electronbeam> yes
[08:54] <PSUSI> k
[08:54] <Gotti> MasseR, btw...are you running a 64 bit ubuntu?
[08:55] <mjelva> ubuntu fails at mounting samba shares on startup. i'm able to mount it by bashing 'mount -a' as root. how can i automate this process?
[08:55] <Electronbeam> ill go get the error msg PSUSI
[08:55] <MasseR> Gotti: 32
[08:55] <PSUSI> cheesy: you get that trying to boot?
[08:55] <cheesy> yes
[08:55] <Gotti> MasseR, okay...just checking...64bit always fubars things...i though that might be it...
[08:55] <cheesy> to boot with the cd
[08:55] <moolcool> is the only diffrence between kde and gnome the interface? or do you get diffrent function?
[08:55] <TeemuR> hi Im using dapper how can I update my Firefox 1.5.7 to 2.0?
[08:56] <Zaggynl> bobby_, do you have Fast Writes enabled?
[08:56] <moolcool> test
[08:56] <PSUSI> cheesy: trying to boot from the cd you get that?  hrm... is this before you get the boot menu or after?
[08:56] <cheesy> after
[08:56] <Maggotin> Hello
[08:56] <MasseR> Gotti: Hold on I'll give you the error
[08:56] <MasseR> !pastebin
[08:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:56] <PSUSI> cheesy: try choosing the disk test option from the menu
[08:56] <cheesy> ok
[08:56] <Maggotin> I have a realtek HD audio sound card, how can I get the sound working on ubuntu?
[08:56] <cpl-tnt44> anyone knows how i change between hebrew and english keyboard in ubuntu ?
[08:56] <PSUSI> cheesy: but it sounds like either the drive or the disk are damaged
[08:57] <Gotti> Maggotin, ...you ever fix that Compiz Xserver bug?
[08:57] <cheesy> thx PSUSI
[08:57] <MasseR> Gotti: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29422/
[08:57] <gnu2it2> why is there not any webmin for edgy on amd64?
[08:57] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows howto get Fast Writes enabled? it is enabled in my BIOS, but in Ubuntu it won't be enabled :(
[08:57] <PSUSI> cheesy: if you have another system you can try the disk in, if it works there, but not in this one, then try swapping the cdrom drives cause that one looks to be busted
[08:58] <Maggotin> Yep gotti :D
[08:58] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: Unknown interrupt of fault in 00000060 c01002b1 000002b0
[08:58] <ianmacgregor> !webmin > gnu2it2
[08:58] <Zaggynl> !fastwrites
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fastwrites - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <Maggotin> Fixed everything, and now I have xgl+beryl working :D
[08:58] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: hrm... and what do you see before that?
[08:58] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: loading linux kernel dialog
[08:58] <TeemuR> hi Im using dapper how can I update my Firefox 1.5.7 to 2.0?
[08:58] <cpl-tnt44> anyone knows how i change between hebrew and english keyboard in ubuntu ?
[08:59] <Gotti> MasseR, /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18mykernel ... why is the "mykernel" there? Anyway...try simlinking the actual kernel sources dir to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18mykernel
[08:59] <donfilipo> coz_ are you still there?
[08:59] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: ok... add the nosplash boot option and see what you get
[09:00] <MasseR> Gotti: Because I've compiled multiple kernels
[09:00] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: im a noobie when it comes to linux, how exactly do i do that?
[09:00] <Gotti> Maggotin, glad to hear it! XGL/Beryl is the one thing I miss after switching to fluxbox...but a worthit sacrifice
[09:00] <Maggotin> :D
[09:00] <Maggotin> Now I just need to get the sound working
[09:00] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: iirc there is a prompt on the livecd boot process that says press some key ( F4 or something ) for advanced options
[09:01] <jjazz> I am trying to playback a DVD.  In both xine and vlc, I get audio but the video is replaced by a bright blue screen.  No video errors are displayed.  Anybody know how to fix that?
[09:01] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: it will then prompt you to enter kernel command line parameters.... type "nosplash" and hit enter
[09:01] <Electronbeam> ok
[09:01] <Gotti> MasseR, ah...okay...just never seen that before...and these errors continue? Whats the last thing she spits out?
[09:01] <teclo-> Hello, I have upgraded to edgy. Everything is working except that when I install the proprietary nvidia kernel drivers, I get the following error in /var/log/nvidia-installer.log:    /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: not found
[09:01] <D0wn> Is /dev/hdb to read a cd and not burn?
[09:01] <teclo->    make[3] : *** [__modpost]  Error 127
[09:01] <MasseR> Gotti: Wait a minute :)
[09:01] <TeemuR> jjazz: have you installed the dvd codec?
[09:01] <Gotti> MasseR, alrighty
[09:02] <jjazz> TeemuR: I believe I have played DVDs on this box before.  What package is the DVD codec?
[09:02] <MasseR> Gotti: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29423/
[09:02] <TeemuR> jjazz:it's the libdvdcss2
[09:03] <cheeseruler> windows just pwns
[09:03] <jjazz> TeemuR: That's installed, yes.
[09:03] <cheeseruler> saves me lotsa time
[09:03] <henry_> hi does anyone here use vmoviedb?
[09:04] <VividHazE> QUESTION: How do I alter my port settings to allow aMSN to send my webcam feed?
[09:04] <TeemuR> jjazz: that's really wierd it should play then
[09:04] <cheeseruler> just install windows
[09:04] <cheeseruler> then ur cam works 100%
[09:04] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: same EIP error
[09:04] <glitch-> cannot connect to wifi network (I got double boot notebook, windows wifi works fine) using Dapper
[09:04] <Gotti> MasseR, ... i gotta say man...this isn't anything i've seen before...have you gone back to dapper in the meantime? i suggest filing a bug with the devs and waiting for them...
[09:04] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: EVen when i tried the nosplash option
[09:04] <cheesy> PSUSI: doesn't do the test...same error
[09:04] <VividHazE> "just install windows?" Boy this Linux advice gets more detailed and helpful every day
[09:04] <VividHazE> hehe
[09:04] <VividHazE> :D
[09:04] <VividHazE> jk
[09:04] <tortho> is it normal after a dist-upgrade to eft that there is a lot of python packages held back?
[09:04] <MasseR> Gotti: I've been considering that but it seems like giving up and .. Well you know :P
[09:05] <MasseR> tortho: Yes
[09:05] <LjL> cheeseruler: right, that's not quite reasonable advice...
[09:05] <Evil_Bill_Gates> all buy Windows
[09:05] <Electronbeam> Damn i hate windows
[09:05] <jjazz> TeemuR: Is the blue screen an indication that css isn't working right?
[09:05] <Evil_Bill_Gates> LaughingoutLoud
[09:05] <Gotti> MasseR, I'll look at it more later and give you a message on the forums...but Work calls!
[09:05] <MasseR> tortho: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:05] <MasseR> Thanks :)
[09:05] <KillerDemon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1wj1rKgKG0  <-- lol :D
[09:05] <john> QUESTION: My wireless card (Belkin F5D7000 rev03) installs fine, but is still unuseable, anyon have any ideas why?
[09:05] <aldur1973> !dist-upgrade
[09:05] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: ok, but do you see more information leading up to the crash?
[09:05] <Gotti> MasseR, and yes I know...I HATE having to give up.
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <Electronbeam> yes
[09:05] <Electronbeam> i need to write
[09:05] <PSUSI> cheesy: try the cd in another machine if you can
[09:05] <Electronbeam> one moment
[09:05] <aldur1973> !dist-upgrade
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <VividHazE> Electronbeam: Write a tutorial on changing port settings in Ubuntu
[09:05] <VividHazE> i'll give you 10 minutes
[09:05] <VividHazE> :D
[09:05] <VividHazE> hehe
[09:05] <VividHazE> jk
[09:05] <PSUSI> cheesy: how did you burn the cd btw?
[09:06] <cheesy> iso
[09:06] <markeib> hey, i got a problem updating to edgy
[09:06] <PSUSI> cheesy: I mean how did you burn the iso?  from a windows install on this same machine?
[09:06] <PSUSI> and in this same drive?
[09:06] <markeib> the update stop and only shows: * Stopping Bluetooth services...
[09:06] <markeib> for a while now
[09:06] <MasseR> Well I'll try compiling 2.6.15 in the meantime
[09:06] <aldur1973> markeib how do you do an upgrade
[09:06] <markeib> can i try to stop that manually?
[09:06] <Evil_Bill_Gates> damn just install windows, then all ur hardware works like a charm
[09:06] <cheesy> from dapper from the same machine
[09:06] <Maggotin> I'm trying to use alsaconf, but it's not working, what can be wrong?
[09:07] <PSUSI> cheesy: ok, boot back into dapper and run md5sum /dev/cdrom
[09:07] <aldur1973> Evil_bill_gates lol
[09:07] <PSUSI> cheesy: should take a while, but it should spit out... hold on, let me look it up...
[09:07] <markeib> aldur1973 gksu "update-manager -c"
[09:07] <aldur1973> guys is there a command to run that will cause the upgrade to start
[09:07] <aldur1973> sudo apt-get dist-update does notinh
[09:08] <LjL> aldur1973: the one markeib just gave you
[09:08] <Evil_Bill_Gates> buy windows, and support the bill gates foundation for childeren with disabilities
[09:08] <MasseR> aldur1973: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:08] <jjazz> aldur1973: apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:08] <nashnash> hello im trying to connect my printer to my network , i use ubuntu 6.10 and the rest of the network use Windows XP , i already fixed my printer in my own pc, it works here and i marked "Share Printers" and im networked with the other pcs, i think the problem is they cant connect to my pc even in the network itself, only i can connect to their pc, i think its because the ubuntu has password and it doesnt work when i press it on the po
[09:08] <nashnash> pup there , please help ^^
[09:08] <badcel> hi, where can i define which sound driver gdm is using to play the sound which is played before the login
[09:08] <LjL> Evil_Bill_Gates, come on, stop trolling ;-)
[09:08] <henry_> nashnash, just get ubuntu on your other computers :)
[09:08] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: i see Loading casper/vmlinuz and casper/initrd.gz and then the loading linux kernel dialog, after that the evil EIP error :(
[09:08] <Evil_Bill_Gates> LaughingoutLoud
[09:09] <henry_> Rolling on the floor laughing
[09:09] <PSUSI> cheesy: b950a4d7cf3151e5f213843e2ad77fe3  ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[09:09] <kyja> I just had to restart my lappy to get the bcm4206 to work again. what is up with that. 606 did not die on uptime.
[09:09] <highneko> lmao, roflmao
[09:09] <PSUSI> cheesy: if that is the iso you used, md5sum should spit out that number... if it does not, it did not get burned correctly or the drive isn't reading it correctly
[09:09] <glitch-> cannot connect to wifi network (I got double boot notebook, windows wifi works fine) using Dapper..anyone?
[09:10] <markeib> so do you know how i can get the upgrade to go on?
[09:10] <aldur1973> how do you check if you have upgraded
[09:10] <markeib> Preparing to replace bluez-utils 2.24-0ubuntu6 (using .../bluez-utils_3.7-1ubuntu4_i386.deb) ...
[09:10] <markeib>  * Stopping Bluetooth services...
[09:10] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: could you run the disk check too then? ;)
[09:10] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: running disk check now
[09:10] <VividHazE> Anyone fancy helping me with webcam port settings in aMSN?
[09:10] <Evil_Bill_Gates> ok ill be honest
[09:10] <Evil_Bill_Gates> http://static.flickr.com/96/281193199_519775b141.jpg
[09:10] <VividHazE> Or even anyone who could tell me how to change my port settings in Ubuntu
[09:10] <MasseR> VividHazE: man iptables
[09:11] <tortho> MesseR: why is this happening, i also had faults (start failed) on acpid and acpi-support
[09:11] <MasseR> tortho: Me?
[09:11] <markeib> please tell me how to stop bluetooth services manually !
[09:11] <LjL> Evil_Bill_Gates, that's funny, but please move jokes to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:11] <nashnash> henry_ , lol ;)
[09:11] <VividHazE> MasseR: thanks, giving it a shot
[09:11] <tortho> Messer: the python.... held back
[09:11] <nashnash> i would like to do that, but my family dont want it, their loss
[09:11] <henry_> mine too hehe
[09:11] <nashnash> but anyway i need to connect my printer to the rest of the network ^^
[09:11] <MasseR> tortho: Ah, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:11] <henry_> nashnash, i'm a noob
[09:12] <MasseR> tortho: It has some conflicting packages
[09:12] <MasseR> That fixes it
[09:12] <tortho> Messer: ok, thanks, do you also know something about this acpid..
[09:12] <MasseR> tortho: No, I had acpi trouble myself but no idea how I fixed 'em
[09:12] <aldur1973> do I have to change my sources.list file at all
[09:12] <nashnash> lol henry_
[09:12] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: tried running the CD defect check, the same error (eip) occurs
[09:12] <Zaggynl> Does anyone know howto get 'Fast Write' working?
[09:12] <badcel> hi, where can i define which sound driver gdm is using to play the sound which is played before the login
[09:12] <MasseR> tortho: And try pressing ma<tab> :P
[09:13] <MasseR> I'm masser and not messer
[09:13] <nashnash> henry_ im a beginner too its ok ^^
[09:13] <LjL> VividHazE: first time i'm touching amsn, but, i can see Tools / Preferences / Other / Configure webcam
[09:13] <mjelva> ubuntu fails at mounting samba shares on startup. i'm able to mount it by bashing 'mount -a' as root. how can i automate this process?
[09:13] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: hrm.... do you have another machine or a working OS installed on this one already you can use to test?
[09:13] <tortho> MasseR: :-) Thanks, it's been a long time since i used irc.
[09:13] <VividHazE> LjL: Thanks for giving it a shot but thats just for setting what cam you want, it has to do with Restricted NAT or something.
[09:13] <VividHazE> blocked ports I have to open to send the actual images
[09:13] <aldur1973> !UPDATE
[09:13] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[09:14] <LjL> VividHazE: ah, so you don't know what ports you need to forward?
[09:14] <VividHazE> found something about NAT in that man iptables, but its like a needle in a haystack, and you don't end up finding a needle but a balloon
[09:14] <VividHazE> :D
[09:14] <VividHazE> yup LjL, or even the commands to even do that
[09:14] <VividHazE> lol
[09:14] <LjL> VividHazE, if you're behind NAT, it's not a problem with your system, but with the system that's implementing the NAT
[09:14] <ompaul> ubotu tell about mjelva samba
[09:14] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: i have the machine im working on now, and the one i am installing on  the one i am installing on does not currently have a working OS
[09:14] <john> anyone know how to get a BCM4306 rev03 wireless pci card working in 64bit ubuntu?
[09:14] <LjL> i.e. your router, i would assume, VividHazE
[09:14] <nashnash> hello im trying to connect my printer to my network , i use ubuntu 6.10 and the rest of the network use Windows XP , i already fixed my printer in my own pc, it works here and i marked "Share Printers" and im networked with the other pcs, i think the problem is they cant connect to my pc even in the network itself, only i can connect to their pc, i think its because the ubuntu has password and it doesnt work when i press it on the po
[09:14] <nashnash> pup there , please help ^^
[09:15] <VividHazE> LjL: Yea, its a BT Home Hub, and i've no idea how to access that from linux :S
[09:15] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: ok... the machine you are on now, is it running linux or windows?
[09:15] <LjL> VividHazE: just as you would from Windows, i'd assume. it'll have a web interface possibly.
[09:15] <Electronbeam> PSUSI: windows, unfortunatly
[09:15] <tops> if I have the same username and password on two machines, is there a way to let me ssh from one to the other without entering my password?
[09:15] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: then you can either google for a win32 port of md5sum, or just reboot the machine off the cd and run the disk test
[09:15] <VividHazE> no BT Home hub has this software you install on Windows and you can access the features of it, I looked in all the network stuff I could find in Ubuntu but nothing about that.:S
[09:16] <MasseR> tops: Yes, google ssh-keygen -t rsa
[09:16] <VividHazE> I have an old modem that has a web interface but then we lose the Wireless stuff with the Home Hub
[09:16] <VividHazE> suck
[09:16] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: if that machine has the same problem, then it is likely that the disk is bad
[09:16] <ehehehe> the link for pan_0.117_i386.deb is dead ont he official site, anyone has a mirror please?
[09:16] <Gotti> im off to work...talk to you all later!
[09:16] <domecq> Anyone could please give me a hint on how to verify if my TV card is working? My computer has a PCI Pinnacle PCTV Stereo, lspci outputs "01:07.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 10)". My computer is running with Ubuntu Edgy.
[09:16] <ompaul> VividHazE, first what is your current ip?
[09:16] <LjL> VividHazE, are you sure it doesn't also come with a web interface? (it's really a stupid router if it only can be controlled with Windows software...!)
[09:17] <Electronbeam> this machine runs the same edgy CD fine. What is the disk check and how do i get it
[09:17] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: when burning isos, try limiting the burn speed to 8x.... some hardware doesn't like cds burned at 52x or whatever insane speed they are doing these days
[09:17] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: I thoguh you said you already tried it on this other machine?
[09:17] <Electronbeam> yes
[09:17] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: choose the disk check option from the boot menu
[09:17] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: try doing that in the machine you are on now
[09:17] <VividHazE> LjL: Well, I've never used it before :S I should maybe look for that in the manuals before I go any further because if that exists then there isn't a problem.
[09:18] <moolcool> I just read an article about the advantages between gnome and kde, can you run gnome apps on kde and kde apps on gnome? how does that work>
[09:18] <VividHazE> I know what i'm looking for I think, I just don't know where it is in the firs tplace
[09:18] <VividHazE> lol
[09:18] <Electronbeam> sorry, but i cant do it now...but i will check it soon
[09:18] <Stormx2> moolcool: Yes.
[09:18] <Stormx2> moolcool: You can, but they look different.
[09:18] <john> anyone know how to get my Belkin F5D7000 rev03 wireless pci card working in ubuntu?
[09:18] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: ok... when you do if the same thing happens, it looks like a bad burn... so try burning a new one at lower speed
[09:18] <moolcool> so basicly the main diffrence between gnome and kde is the look of it?
[09:18] <Electronbeam> ok, thanks much for the info PSUSI
[09:18] <LjL> VividHazE: do you know your router's IP?
[09:19] <VividHazE> <--- Knows nothing
[09:19] <PSUSI> Electronbeam: if the disk check on this machine comes back fine though, then you might want to file a bug report with full hardware specs on the machine where it crashes
[09:19] <VividHazE> <--- peroid
[09:19] <VividHazE> lol
[09:19] <VividHazE> AH, I gotta go now my brother needs a lift anyway :S I'll probably be back later anyway
[09:19] <markeib> how do i force bluez-utils to stop?
[09:19] <VividHazE> you've given me some ideas though I'll try and work on them :D
[09:19] <D0wn> I need some help. When I stick a Blank CD in my drive, nothing will read/write it. I've tried mounting /dev/hdb but that didn't work
[09:19] <moolcool> so basicly the diffrence between gnome and kde is the look of it?
[09:20] <LjL> VividHazE: type "route" and paste the output on the pastebin please
[09:20] <john> anyone know how to get my Belkin F5D7000 rev03 wireless pci card working in ubuntu?
[09:20] <jjazz> moolcool: They're two different desktops with two different approaches.  Install them both, try them and use the one you like better.
[09:20] <markeib> how do i kill bluez-utils ?
[09:21] <D0wn> markeib: killalll bluez-utils
[09:21] <john> anyone know how to get my Belkin F5D7000 rev03 wireless pci card working in ubuntu?
[09:21] <VividHazE> LjL: just route?
[09:21] <D0wn> John: Install the drivers
[09:21] <jjazz> markeib: Have you tried /etc/init.d/bluez-utils stop ?
[09:21] <LjL> VividHazE: yup
[09:21] <VividHazE> hey isn't giving you my IP address like bad cause you'll hack me or something :D
[09:21] <VividHazE> hehe
[09:21] <victorh> hi, how can I change/update the kernel if I don't have acces to the internet?
[09:21] <markeib> yes jjazz
[09:21] <markeib> it won't work
[09:21] <john> Down: already tried that
[09:21] <markeib> but i killed it now and the upgrade goes on ^^
[09:21] <markeib> thank you anyways
[09:21] <john> tried with ndiswrapper and no luck there
[09:21] <LjL> VividHazE: your IP address is 217.44.157.193 - anybody can see that right from IRC
[09:22] <D0wn> Hmm..
[09:22] <moolcool> what do you mean by desktops and approches? Is it like a theme with diffrent layouts and looks but all the same function?
[09:22] <VividHazE> lol shows how much I know
[09:22] <VividHazE> GAH my bro is shouting at me now to go :P
[09:22] <VividHazE> LjL i'll be back in the next hour if your really want to help, sorry about that :S
[09:22] <azcazandco> can anyone help me with what permissions my /var/ dir should have? I can no longer browse it since upgrading to edgy
[09:23] <method|> hey when i first got ubuntu i did a dkpg something that allowed me to configure my fonts anyone know what that command is?
[09:23] <azcazandco> chmod o+r ?
[09:23] <donfilipo> LjL are you still there i have tried to fix my stream playing reading the how to page but nothing works...my avi files play from HDD my wmv play from HDD even ram files play in real player if put link there directly but i have troubles with usual stream files...nothing works
[09:23] <D0wn> I need some help. When I stick a Blank CD in my drive, nothing will read/write it. I've tried mounting /dev/hdb but that didn't work
[09:23] <jjazz> azcazandco: 755, owned by root
[09:24] <azcazandco> okay
[09:24] <azcazandco> jjazz: thanks
[09:24] <jjazz> D0wn: I don't think you can mount it.  There's no filesystem if it's blank.
[09:24] <pak-x> hi
[09:24] <jjazz> azcazandco: np
[09:25] <azcazandco> jjazz: still cant get it via nautalis
[09:25] <Hoxxin> if it wasnt for all the games i want to play i'd change to ubuntu completely a long time ago. About Cedega, is it as good as they say? i mean can i play the most games with it?
[09:25] <D0wn> jjazz: if I don't mount it, then how can anything recognize it to burn?
[09:25] <pak-x> i have a hard problem with the nvidia drivers, everytime i install them, they works, but after a reboot, he has a conflict with the versionnumbers and can not exec the kernel. what can i do
[09:25] <jjazz> D0wn: just stick it in the drive and whatever you're using to burn will take care of it
[09:25] <neonempyr> * Has anyone made a Festalon 0.5.5 package?
[09:25] <jjazz> azcazandco: I don't know anything about nautilis.  Try the command line.
[09:26] <DigitalNinja> How well does Ubuntu run on the core 2 duo?
[09:26] <D0wn> jjaxx: Eh, well that's not working
[09:26] <LjL> donfilipo: i know, problem is that page apparently isn't up-to-date for Edgy... i've asked the documentation team to look at it. i can't do much about it myself, since i'm using KDE and haven't even tried installing codecs anyway
[09:26] <azcazandco> i did, nautalis is just the file browser
[09:26] <pak-x> also in xgl i can only choose us language for my keyboard, this sucks for a german
[09:26] <boldii> hi
[09:26] <der0b> folks, is there a way to browse printers on a windows server with nautilus?
[09:26] <jjazz> azcazandco: Can you read the dir as root?
[09:26] <boldii> anybody here already built wormux 0.8 for ubuntu edgy??
[09:27] <Arjen> Question: How do I prevent having to run "dhclient" every time I start Ubuntu to get my internet connection to work?
[09:28] <geokok> can someone help me verify what i believe to be a bug in OO base in edgy?
[09:28] <petri_l> Anyone gotten a Broadcom 4311 working on Ubuntu?
[09:28] <Lynoure> Arjen: do you already have dhcp in your /etc/network/inferfaces for that network card?
[09:28] <St0n3-C0l> hey I have a problem....whenever I start my computer and boot Ubuntu...after booting n all...the sound of gnome appears n the system hangs !! and when I go to Windows and after that I reboot and then come to Ubuntu..it works..what's the problem ? I am on Edgy!
[09:29] <geokok> can someone help me verify what i believe to be a bug in OO base in edgy?
[09:29] <azcazandco> jjazz: yest
[09:29] <donfilipo> LjL so you are saying somebody is aware of the problem....but maybe you can tell me one thing...how can i convince my real player to start on ram files and not to start mplayer plugin? do i realy need to download a ram file to my disk or is there a shorter way?
[09:29] <tritium> geokok: you need to describe it, and not repeat
[09:29] <Arjen> Lynoure, let me check.
[09:29] <azcazandco> I can browse it as my user too but not if I select computer from the places menu
[09:30] <jjazz> azcazandco: sudo chmod 755 /var
[09:30] <LjL> donfilipo, you need to change the file associations i suppose... but i can't really help you, because this kind of things is different in KDE
[09:30] <Hoxxin> cedega, is it really as good as it sounds?
[09:30] <squidly> hello.. anyone know where I need to chagne the password for nagios's web frust end
[09:30] <geokok> ok sorry. I try to create a form with the wizard but when I hit finish nothing happens. If I replace FSF java with SUN JAVA then the specific wizard wont start at all
[09:30] <squidly> Hoxxin: yes
[09:30] <azcazandco> jjazz: drwxr-xr-x  16 root root  4096 2006-10-26 23:55 var
[09:30] <Hoxxin> squidly woah, sounds nice :D
[09:30] <ploom> hi - yesterday I still had my time correct (appeared to correctly adust the daylight saving time), wonder how today it's back in the one-hour-before time?
[09:31] <Arjen> Lynoure, it appears to ask DHCP for an IP-address (I checked in System > Administration > Network tools)
[09:31] <jjazz> azcazandco: That the correct perms
[09:31] <squidly> Hoxxin: ive used cedega
[09:31] <azcazandco> i know, is wierd :(
[09:31] <St0n3-C0l> hey I have a problem....whenever I start my computer and boot Ubuntu...after booting n all...the sound of gnome appears n the system hangs !! and when I go to Windows and after that I reboot and then come to Ubuntu..it works..what's the problem ? I am on Edgy!
[09:31] <Lynoure> Arjen: just in case, check the actual file, or put it in a pastebin
[09:31] <Hoxxin> squidly: have you tried several games and they all have worked?
[09:31] <alecjw> ploom: do this in a terminal: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[09:31] <squidly> Hoxxin: pretty much yea
[09:31] <Hoxxin> nice
[09:31] <jjazz> azcazandco: If a user can't read /var and /var has those perms, something is seriously messed up.
[09:31] <azcazandco> hmmm
[09:32] <squidly> Hoxxin: yea it rocks, CS worked very well, for me and I know of about 75 games that work very will under it
[09:32] <geokok>  the problem appears in the live cd as well
[09:32] <donfilipo> LJL ok thanks anyway i will have to look for it for myself.....but have you heard that the problem exists so that i do not repeat the installation for nothing and the problem remains the same?
[09:32] <klm-> how can I take a snapshot on mplayer?
[09:32] <ploom> thanks alecjw, but already did it - added servers of my local ISP even and checked that timezone is still Europe/Tallinn
[09:32] <squidly> damn I used to know that
[09:32] <evilmegaman> Is ubuntu able to resize NTFS partitions? Like during the install?
[09:32] <Hoxxin> squidly: i will give it a try :) if it works i can leave windows forever :P
[09:32] <squidly> evilmegaman: iirc no
[09:32] <azcazandco> jjazz: is strange, I can get into /var if using something likle bluefish
[09:33] <ompaul> evilmegaman, yes it can
[09:33] <jjazz> azcazandco: ls /var
[09:33] <azcazandco> i can browse it with my ftp client etc too
[09:33] <ompaul> evilmegaman, takes time
[09:33] <Arjen> Lynoure, I'm looking at "eth0", it's twice in the file.
[09:33] <squidly> anyone konw where I need to look to change the nagios password for the webfront end?
[09:33] <squidly> and the nagios user name?
[09:33] <ploom> alecjw - weird - now did it second time and its showing the right time again :-)
[09:33] <Arjen> Lynoure, mistake! Once in the file.
[09:33] <azcazandco> jjazz: backups  games  local  log   opt       run    tmp cache    lib    lock   mail  packages  spool  www
[09:33] <evilmegaman> ompaul, oh okay. But it works okay? and is it reliable?
[09:33] <arepie> hello, i have some error everytime i try to install something
[09:33] <ploom> thanks anyways :-)
[09:33] <jjazz> azcazandco: OK, so obviously you can read /var
[09:33] <arepie> --> E: clamav-base: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[09:33] <Arjen> Lynoure, it only sais: "auto eth0"
[09:33] <alecjw> that's ok, ploom
[09:33] <DigitalNinja> How do the core 2 duo's work under Linux?
[09:34] <geokok> anyone having the same behaviout I described earlier in OO base?
[09:34] <squidly> DigitalNinja: iirc pretty good
[09:34] <LjL> donfilipo, i hear a lot of people complaining about multimedia codecs and such, but i can't say for sure that i've seen the same problem that you're having
[09:34] <Lynoure> Arjen: no dhcp?
[09:34] <azcazandco> jjazz: so what do you think is up?
[09:34] <ompaul> evilmegaman, to get the best result from that defrag the windows partition allot space defrag it again allot all the spare space and yes it is reliable
[09:34] <Arjen> Doesn't seem like it!
[09:34] <azcazandco> I am at a loss
[09:34] <St0n3-C0l> anybody here to solveout my prolem ?
[09:34] <jjazz> azcazandco: What is it you are trying to accomplish that you cannot?  I don't understand your problem
[09:34] <St0n3-C0l> problem?
[09:34] <ogamiitto> what packages do I need to develop simple c programs? do I need anything else than gcc and gdb?
[09:34] <Arjen> Lynoure, nope.
[09:34] <DigitalNinja> squidly: Do you have to any fancy config stuff to get it working?
[09:34] <boink> !build-essentials
[09:34] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:34] <evilmegaman> cool thanks ompaul :)
[09:34] <ompaul> DigitalNinja, on dapper you have to tell it which kernel to use on edgy it does it itself
[09:34] <razormade> I have a problem with the ' mythtv' user. It has no access rights in MySQL. How can I fix it?
[09:34] <razormade> I'd like to have Mythtv running in Ubuntu. Some one can help????
[09:34] <squidly> DigitalNinja: iirc no.. but then I donte have a core duo
[09:34] <lars__> having problem with adding a local directory as an apt source (won't find packages). can anyone help me? :] 
[09:35] <arepie> anyone know how to solve this problem?? --> E: clamav-base: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[09:35] <Hoxxin> one more question, what irc client you ppl use?
[09:35] <jjazz> razormade: mysql has a grant command.
[09:35] <squidly> Hoxxin: i use irssi
[09:35] <wildchild> what is the command if u wanna search for a part of rile for example NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9625-pkg1.run
[09:35] <ClayG> Hoxxin, Xchat or irssi if in cli
[09:35] <ompaul> Hoxxin, that question will not be answered by 1100 plus
[09:35] <azcazandco> jjazz: okay, at the top of my screen I have Applications, Places, System menus... if I select places > computer and browse to / I only get media home data & sda3 which are mounted drives etc
[09:35] <lars__> hoxxin: xchat (standard breezy :>)
[09:35] <pak-x> i have a hard problem with the nvidia drivers, everytime i install them, they works, but after a reboot, he has a conflict with the versionnumbers and can not exec the kernel. what can i do
[09:35] <sylwia> hi im new here what's up?
[09:35] <Lynoure> Arjen: then that's almost certainly the cause
[09:35] <boink> I use irssi here
[09:35] <Arjen> Lynoure, it does seem to have that stuff for eht1 and eth2, even wlan0, should i just delete that stuff?
[09:36] <squidly> ClayG: i prefre irssi over xchat sence I started useing irssi ^^
[09:36] <razormade> jjazz: how does that work? Example...
[09:36] <donfilipo> LjL ok it's not the codecs problem cause codecs do their work if filed are on HDD it's the broswers problem
[09:36] <Hoxxin> ompaul : i didnt expect that either :D
[09:36] <DigitalNinja> ompaul: ARe the core 2 duo's like amd 64? Do we get core 2 duo libraries like we do for amd 64?
[09:36] <sylwia> everyone have a problems...lol
[09:36] <azcazandco> jjazz: I need to be able to browse my /var/www folder
[09:36] <sioux> where I get a secure guide for nvidia in edgy?
[09:36] <Lynoure> Arjen: I'd rather just add that to eth0 first
[09:36] <lars__> azcazandco, chmod +x /var/www
[09:36] <jjazz> razormade: Google it.  Plenty of examples out there.
[09:36] <boink> !nvidia
[09:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:36] <jjazz> azcazandco: ls /var/www
[09:36] <ompaul> DigitalNinja, afik the smp part ofthe kernel just grabs the job and works with it
[09:36] <Arjen> Lynoure, add "iface eth0 inet dhcp"? (I notice now it's already in)
[09:36] <ClayG> squidly, I like it but prefer a gui for irc
[09:37] <wildchild> how can I find file named: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9625-pkg1.run
[09:37] <ClayG> of coarse it's prime when you are at work and want to jump on real quick through a screen/ssh
[09:37] <Geoffrey2> um, how much does Cedega cost?
[09:37] <azcazandco> jjazz: i get the contents
[09:37] <Owner> helo everyone...i am new to ubuntu.....
[09:37] <razormade> jjaz: I'll Google and have a look at the MySQL website! Thanks. I''l give it a try.
[09:37] <squidly> ClayG: YKINMK ^^
[09:37] <menko> wildchild: find | grep example* from the root of the directories you wanna search. it will show all files which start with example. To make it un case sensitive add -i to grep.
[09:37] <sioux> ubot that seems for dapper... edgy ios the same?
[09:37] <Lynoure> Arjen: sorry, I got confused now. Yes, add if it's missing
[09:37] <lars__> azcazandco, thats what ls is made for
[09:37] <foobark> oh oh - I have an nvidia question too!
[09:38] <ClayG> squidly, ?
[09:38] <jjazz> azcazandco: So when you point nautilis at /var/www, what happens?
[09:38] <Arjen> Lynoure, it's already in! Sorry my mistake, I didn't notice at first.
[09:38] <Zaggynl> foobark, fire away
[09:38] <DigitalNinja> ompaul: Lets see if I understand correctly. No extra libraries are needed. Just grab the extra kernel and everything should work just ifne. I get 100% core 2 duo stuff.
[09:38] <squidly> ClayG: your kink is not my kink ^^
[09:38] <Lynoure> Arjen: that's why pastebin is so handy...
[09:38] <foobark> I two video cards - the onboard intel i810 is working great. Then I have a 7900gs that  is not working so great. Actually when I set it as the default I get a kernel panic on boot
[09:38] <Hoxxin> ompaul anyway it seems like most ppl use irssi or xhat, im quite new to all this linux and stuff and ive tried irssi a couple of times but have never really got into it. as an old MIRC user
[09:38] <segfault_> !nvidiabeta | wildchild
[09:38] <ubotu> wildchild: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[09:38] <azcazandco> I cant even see anything other than 4 folders if I click on filesystem
[09:38] <Arjen> Lynoure, my bad, my bad, want me to post one now?
[09:38] <jjazz> azcazandco: I have yet to understand your problem, btw.  AFAICT, everything is working as it is supposed to.  Perhaps you could clearly say what behavior you're expecting and how it differs from what you're getting.
[09:38] <foobark> So i've been trying to start it up as a secondary display
[09:38] <ClayG> squidly, true
[09:38] <LjL> donfilipo: ok well, still not much i can say... i do have firefox installed (though i never use it), and the places i'd look at are Edit / Preferences / Contents / File types / Manage and, failing that, the "about:config" URL
[09:39] <squidly> lol ^^
[09:39] <scamboy> question: how do i activate bluetooth on my ubuntu??pls help...
[09:39] <squidly> now to get nagios working ^^
[09:39] <sioux> what's best compiz or berly?
[09:39] <squidly> afk a sec
[09:39] <Lynoure> Arjen: have you checked the logs for dhcp activity at the boot time?
[09:39] <segfault_> sioux, beryl
[09:39] <ClayG> i haven't tried skype in a while, is it still slow on ubuntu?
[09:39] <azcazandco> jjazz: I used to be able to browse the whole filesystem using the file browser but can now only see mounted drives and my home dir
[09:39] <ompaul> Hoxxin, I suggest if you use a gui X-Chat2
[09:39] <foobark> Is there any way to start up the x-server in a 'foreground' and then maybe I can try running it just for the nvidia card or soemthing?
[09:39] <Arjen> Lynoure, I don't have a clue how to do that, so no...
[09:39] <pak-x> i have a hard problem with the nvidia drivers, everytime i install them, they works, but after a reboot, he has a conflict with the versionnumbers and can not exec the kernel. can someone help me please? thanks
[09:39] <sioux> hu some says compiz other berly... I get confused
[09:40] <Geoffrey2> ok, I have multiple email accounts I want to access through evolution...I saw a screenshot that showed each account with it's own set of boxes (inbox, sent, draft, etc), but I can't figure out how to set that up...can anyone help me?
[09:40] <Lynoure> Arjen: (I might have to go soon, I'm not yet adjusted to the winter time, so I'm very tired already)
[09:40] <scamboy> ??
[09:40] <pak-x> beryl and compiy are both verz good. i use beryl, because compiz isnt working
[09:40] <Shish> sioux: compiz is the standard branch; beryl is compiz + loads more features
[09:40] <jjazz> azcazandco: OK, well it's not a permissions thing.  If you can get all that stuff from the command line, it's not a perms problem.  I guess it's a nautilus problem, but like I said, I don't know anything about nautilus.
[09:40] <Arjen> Lynoure, no problem, thanks for your help so far!
[09:40] <ClayG> Geoffrey2, nice spelling ,very D&D, secondly in thunderbird it's done by not selecting "global mail box" , i would imagine it's the same in evol
[09:40] <azcazandco> jjazz: thanks for trying
[09:40] <Hoxxin> ompaul ok
[09:40] <jjazz> azcazandco: np
[09:41] <killown> after compile kernel I get error during boot FATAL: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/modules.dep.temp for writing: no such file or directory That folder does exist  what I do to fix it?
[09:41] <azcazandco> jjazz: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:41] <Hoxxin> how many ppl are here really? many
[09:41] <Zaggynl> aaagh
[09:41] <jjazz> azcazandco: dapper
[09:41] <azcazandco> ok
[09:41] <Zaggynl> what's that feature that autoplays songs when you hover over them?
[09:41] <ploom> Hoxxin: 1111 users currently here ;-)
[09:41] <ClayG> Zaggynl, wow, i hate the "feature"
[09:41] <Hoxxin> woah
[09:41] <fuoco> can anyone suggest a simple audio editor, i need to divide a single wav file to several tracks
[09:41] <azcazandco> jjazz: can you go to places > computer > filesystem and tell me what you see
[09:41] <Zaggynl> ClayG, me too now, It's stuck after I deleted the files D:
[09:41] <ClayG> Zaggynl, but I think that is done through you "window" settings
[09:41] <jjazz> azcazandco: No, I can't.  I don't use gnome
[09:41] <Zaggynl> ClayG, where can I change that setting?
[09:41] <foobark> It would be real cool if this irc had a conversation queue :)
[09:42] <ClayG> lemme check
[09:42] <Elements> fuoco, Audacity
[09:42] <Lynoure> Arjen: try   dmesg  , it should have a line with eth0 somewhere and maybe even dhcp
[09:42] <lars__> when i upgrade to 6.10 using apt-get, the package "volumeid" causes an error because one of its files also exists in "udev"
[09:42] <Zaggynl> azcazandco, dapper ftw ;)
[09:42] <lars__> how to solve this?
[09:42] <ryanakca> why is everything slow when I come back to the computer after it has idled a while (24 hours...)?
[09:42] <Zaggynl> It's stuck on stuck on scatman - scatman's world now xD
[09:42] <[BTF] Chm0d> man this edgy upgrade is slllllloooooowwww
[09:43] <Lynoure> Arjen: or actually   dmesg | grep eth0
[09:43] <Zaggynl> stay away from the edgy
[09:43] <fuoco> Elements: ok, thx. i heard of the name jokosher - is that related?
[09:43] <ClayG> Zaggynl, agreed on the edgy ting
[09:43] <Elements> never heard of it
[09:43] <LjL> Zaggynl: don't give blanket advice.
[09:43] <ClayG> ok open up a window, click places then home
[09:43] <Elements> Audacity works pretty well for me
[09:43] <markeib> my upgrade won't continue it stopped here: * Starting Bluetooth services...  hcid sdpd
[09:43] <Zaggynl> I love the effort people put in edgy, but it's not as stable as dapper, so lots of problems occur
[09:44] <Arjen> Lynoure, got 5 lines back from the grep. Want me to open a pastebin?
[09:44] <foobark> I'm going to have to get a real irc client for this channel... miranda-im isn't cutting it.
[09:44] <LjL> Zaggynl: Edgy is not experimental anymore, it's released, it might not work well for you, but having Edgy sported on the ubuntu.com page, and then people saying to stay away from it in the official support channels isn't really a good idea
[09:44] <Lynoure> Arjen: and   dmesg | grep dhc  (as I cannot remember if the dhcp client will mention the interface name)
[09:44] <pak-x> i cannot install nvidia drivers correctly... after install he gets a kernel versionnumber problem and cannot load
[09:44] <Lynoure> Arjen: that would be nice
[09:44] <Zaggynl> LjL, well we do need people testing so okay
[09:44] <Arjen> Lynoure, grepping for dhc yielded no results.
[09:44] <blabla> how to set user permissions to file
[09:45] <Zaggynl> Is there a way to stop the autoplay feature of gnome ?
[09:45] <Lynoure> Arjen: or just message me, but as I'm going soon, pastebin will let others to help you further
[09:45] <ukubuntu> Any Fridge editors around? If you are interested GRAMPS 2.2.1 has just been released with a significant interface upgrade. It is geneology reporting software
[09:45] <ClayG> then EDIT>PREFERENCES>
[09:45] <ClayG> then goto the preview pane
[09:45] <ClayG> or tab, whichever it is "really" called
[09:45] <ClayG> got that Zaggynl
[09:45] <Zaggynl> ah
[09:45] <LjL> Zaggynl: not a matter of testing, it's supposed to have been tested already. sure, it may still have some problems - like everything.  you can most certainly tell people that Dapper has the advantage of sporting "Long Term Support", and also that if they're already using Dapper and it works well, there is no need to fix what is not broken.
[09:45] <Geoffrey2> ClayG, I used to use Thunderbird and I remember that's how it was done, but I don't see any option like that in Evolution
[09:45] <Zaggynl> ClayG, got it, thanks
[09:45] <Zaggynl> uagh, it keeps playing
[09:45] <DigitalNinja> Should I get an amd 64 or a intel core 2 duo?
[09:46] <Zaggynl> hah, got it
[09:46] <ClayG> DigitalNinja, I would have said amd 64 before getting a core 2 duo
[09:46] <Zaggynl> mpg-something
[09:46] <p_masho> Have upgraded to edgy. DOes anyone know how I can change the "startup screen" to chow the services etc as they start ? instead of just the progress bar ?
[09:46] <ClayG> but remember, lol this is comign from a guy who hasn't used amd 64
[09:46] <pak-x> after install he sazs, that he cannot load the kernel, because the kernel version is 1.0.xxxx and the xserver version is 1.0.xxxx but i have installed the newest drivers
[09:46] <DigitalNinja> ClayG: What do you use?
[09:46] <scamboy> how 2 install bluetooth???
[09:47] <jcole> nyone here familiar with mapping joystick buttons to system commands?
[09:47] <ClayG> DigitalNinja, for which? email or cpu's?
[09:47] <scamboy> driver??
[09:47] <ClayG> oh never mind
[09:47] <DigitalNinja> ClayG: cpu's?
[09:47] <ClayG> didn't see you were the same person
[09:47] <ClayG> i use core 2 duo on a lappy i just got
[09:47] <scamboy> clay can u help me??
[09:47] <ClayG> but before buying it i would have said get amd
[09:47] <Arjen> Lynoure, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29428/
[09:47] <ClayG> if i didn't have the money to blow i would have got the AMD
[09:47] <nashnash> there is a way to search for a file in ubuntu?
[09:47] <howieson26> !de
[09:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:48] <ClayG> scamboy, help you? with what?
[09:48] <LjL> p_masho: you can edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the kernel parameters so that they don't contain "quiet" anymore
[09:48] <scamboy> how 2 activate bluetooth on my ubuntu..thanks..
[09:48] <coz_> nashnash, yes go up under the places menu and click search
[09:48] <ClayG> scamboy, honestly haven't done that yet, just got my lappy 2 days ago and that hasn't coem up yet
[09:49] <coz_> scamboy have you googled   ubuntu blue tooth how to
[09:49] <ukubuntu> http://gramps-project.org/ if anyone is interested. Does anyone have a mail address or contact for the fridge management team?
[09:49] <scamboy> clay, thank anyway..
[09:49] <ClayG> scamboy, but it is something i need,so ill try to do it and wecan learn together (sounds gay, but i'm sure you rather that then me say "google it", i hate when people do that)
[09:49] <ClayG> heheeh oops, sorry coz_
[09:49] <MasseR> \o/ I got the mmc working
[09:49] <nashnash> oh right coz_ , lol , i missed it ^^
[09:49] <nashnash> thanks
[09:49] <coz_> ClayG,  it is always good to have people google for answers especially BEFORE they come into the forums
[09:49] <scamboy> coz yes...even checked the web....still same..
[09:50] <scamboy> hey clay...thanks..
[09:50] <coz_> scamboy, ok hold on
[09:50] <ClayG> coz_, yeah but the problem with that is people on forums say google it, and when you do a google search you have 1000's of pages that when you goto them have people telling others to google it
[09:50] <CarinArr> is there an easy way to prioritise network traffic, so for example, ssh is always prioritised over down.uploads etc
[09:51] <ClayG> in irc, you act as if you were in a conversation, you wouldn't tell someoen to goto the library because it has the info if you were talking to someone face to face would you?
[09:51] <scamboy> i am using an externel bluetooth adapter..
[09:51] <kmaynard> !offtopic
[09:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:51] <coz_> ClayG, yes that is called sifting through the information for yourself
[09:51] <kmaynard> coz_ and ClayG, take it up in /msg
[09:51] <coz_> scamboy, what device are you wanting to connet to
[09:52] <coz_> connect
[09:52] <ClayG> hehehhe
[09:52] <ClayG> kmaynard, sorry about that
[09:52] <dustin> ahhh     what can i use aside from part image to "ghost my computer?
[09:52] <scamboy> a notebook to my usb bluetooth..
[09:52] <markeib> how can i skip a step in the upgrade process?
[09:52] <gnu2it2> ianmacgregor: did webmin get replace by some other tool? I have a headless sparc server for samba imap and apache
[09:52] <kmaynard> dustin:  http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
[09:53] <scamboy> ...
[09:53] <coz_> scamboy, i am the wrong peson for that keep asking about it though
[09:53] <MuPp3t> My new laptop should be arriving tomorrow, I want to dual boot XP and Ubuntu on it, thing is I've never partitioned a hard drive before, could anyone tell me if it is best to format and then create the partitions or just create another without formatting (XP will come preinstalled)?
[09:53] <ClayG> MuPp3t, just partition
[09:54] <Xzyx987X> hmm... who can tell me why the ntfs drives I mounted in ubuntu are showing up as empty?
[09:54] <Lynoure> Arjen: Nothing there to give any hints, I'm sorry. I think I really must sleep now. If all else fails you can do a post-up for it in the interfaces file but that's an ugly fix. there is bound to be a true solution.
[09:54] <MuPp3t> Okay, thanks ClayG
[09:54] <Xzyx987X> cause I'm pretty sure they're not...
[09:54] <ryanakca> why is everything slow when I come back to the computer after it has idled a while (24 hours...)?
[09:54] <ClayG> MuPp3t, be carefuly, i flattened and when i went ot rebuilt i used xp pro instead , it has been a btch to get the drivers
[09:54] <Arjen> Lynoure, I appreciate your help, thanks alot!
[09:54] <ClayG> MuPp3t, is it a HP?
[09:54] <ClayG> the laptop
[09:54] <MuPp3t> No, Alienware
[09:54] <scamboy> coz thanks anyway..
[09:54] <age6racer> my navigation bar in nautilus is missing. I just upgraded to Edgy. Does anyone know how to get it back?
[09:55] <jcole> age6racer: ctrl-l?
[09:55] <Lynoure> Arjen: Good luck. I'll be here awake again in less than 12h, but I'm betting your problem is solved by that time :)
[09:55] <sam_> anyone know about capturing video / installing raw 1934???
[09:55] <scamboy>  just hope some one can help me on the bluetooth..
[09:55] <Arjen> Lynoure, I hope so! :)
[09:56] <ianmacgregor> gnu2it2: Not sure, I always just use cli for that stuff
[09:56] <scamboy>  any kind people here>>??
[09:57] <Moodles> I updated to Edgy the proper way, now grub is broken, I have to manually change it from hd(2,0) to hd(1,1) and now all it gets to is "waiting for root filesystem"
[09:57] <Farm_Fresh> Having a problem with firefox.  Once launched it runs fine for a while, (less than 10 min) then the whole computer lockes up needing a hard reboot.  If I don't run firefox, I have no problems at all.
[09:57] <kmaynard> scamboy: what device is it again?
[09:58] <kmaynard> Farm_Fresh: is it the ubuntu build?
[09:58] <ryanakca> why is everything slow when I come back to the computer after it has idled a while (24 hours...)?
[09:58] <scamboy> its a usb bluetooth which is not functioning on my laptop..
[09:58] <kmaynard> Moodles:  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, correct it there
[09:58] <crane> hello
[09:58] <Moodles> what about the "waiting for root filesystem" thing
[09:58] <Farm_Fresh> kmaynard:  I think so... I just did the edgy upgrade
[09:59] <Xzyx987X> seriously, I'm getting tired of how practically everything I want to do in edgy takes either a hack, workaround, or installing a series of buggy packages...
[09:59] <nashnash> where is the ports.conf should be? i want to make listen to my pc so my lan windows pcs can connect to my printer?
[09:59] <crane> i am very new to Ubuntu
[09:59] <crane> hoping someone might help me
[09:59] <Xzyx987X> I used to think the design of windows was convoluted, but I guess I hadn't seen anything yet...
[09:59] <optimusprime> how do you upgrade a Kernel?
[09:59] <kmaynard> Farm_Fresh: try running the official mozilla release
[09:59] <nashnash> where is the ports.conf should be? i want to make listen to my pc so my lan windows pcs can connect to my printer? plz someone help ;)
[09:59] <optimusprime> or can some one direct me to a link that'll show me how
[10:00] <sam_> any kino users here?
[10:00] <pkilgore_> optimusprime, I believe new kernel releases are in apt
[10:00] <kmaynard> Moodles:  also look at  /boot/grub/device.map  make sure your drives are setup right
[10:00] <dnite> ok, this is annoying... i set the gnome-power manager thing to never blank my screen.. and i even setterm -blank 0 .. but my screen still blanks.. how do you stop your screen for turning off?
[10:00] <pkilgore_> If you're feeling particularly brave (it doesn't hurt, I swear), you can compile your own
[10:00] <segfault_> optimusprime, when u run normal upgrades ur kernel should get upgrade with any other pkgs if an update is available
[10:00] <gnu2it2> what is the best IMAP server ? ease of setup/management and secure ?
[10:01] <pkilgore_> The gentoo tutorial is good for that
[10:01] <cirvin> i try "sudo apt-get install mjpegtools" yet it tells me there isnt a package there
[10:01] <tag> edgy is released?
[10:01] <optimusprime> so the latest for Dapper is 2.6.15-27
[10:01] <segfault_> optimusprime, i think so
[10:01] <kmaynard> cirvin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=jpeg&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[10:02] <segfault_> tag, read the topic
[10:02] <kmaynard> tag: where have you been? :)
[10:02] <tag> in a cave apparently
[10:02] <tag> no wonder I haven't had any updates lately
[10:02] <cirvin> >< upgrade time
[10:02] <cirvin> though it should be in dapper
[10:02] <segfault_> tag, edgy being released should not affect whether ur dapper install gets updates or not
[10:02] <crane> i installed ubuntu this morn, and everything was going swimingly, but now my mouse continues to freeze up.  I am extremely new to this, and I'm at a lose as to what to do.
[10:03] <Xzyx987X> while, we're at it, how do you set the locale?
[10:03] <tag> segfault_: it might keep my dapper install from getting the latest and greatest softwares though?
[10:04] <cirvin> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/graphics/mjpegtools
[10:04] <segfault_> tag, ur dapper install will not get any newer software than it had when u installed it, it will only get bugfix/security updates (backports excluded of course)
[10:04] <LjL> tag: it *will*. no release of Ubuntu gets new versions of software, only bugfixes and security fixes. you can activate the (at-your-own-risk) backports repository to get some updated packages
[10:04] <cirvin> this states that mjpegtools is avalible to dapper, though its not working
[10:04] <cirvin> ive tried updating sources, but that hasnt worked either
[10:05] <Pacifist> When I'm booting from the CD and select "Start or Install ubuntu" it freezes right before it finishes loading.
[10:05] <tag> LjL: I prefer not to.  Edgy doesn't have firefox 2 does it?
[10:05] <rkd> tag: yes, it does
[10:05] <killown> how I get gnome 2.16 in apt-get?
[10:05] <Moodles> my ubuntu is fucked, updating to edgy has ruined it.. I can't even mount the filesystem.. all I get is this prompt: (initramfs)
[10:06] <Moodles> which i cant do anything with
[10:06] <nixternal> anyone have issues with "6.10 alternate" install with the keyboard dying
[10:06] <nixternal> !language
[10:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:07] <rawrness> holy crap
[10:07] <[GuS] > Guys... could someone tell me how to regenerate all conf. files and rules inside /etc/X11/xkb? because i've deleted cause of xkb layout problem.. but when i reinstall xkb-data does not regenerate/install all rules and conf inside there
[10:09] <killown> when I compile kernel I need make initrd image?
[10:09] <compudaze> killown: yes
[10:10] <Teltariat> greets folks
[10:10] <killown> compudaze how make it?
[10:10] <segfault_> killown, unless u have compoiled all of the drivers u need to boot into ur kernel
[10:10] <Teltariat> how can I check what version of Ubuntu I have?
[10:10] <Teltariat> Is there a "ubuntu versioning" file in /etc or something?
[10:10] <kmaynard> uname -a
[10:10] <killown> segfault_ I compile modules
[10:10] <kmaynard> no, that aint it
[10:10] <killown> I get Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root
[10:10] <Teltariat> no, it ain't.
[10:10] <kmaynard> you use gnome?
[10:10] <Teltariat> yes
[10:11] <segfault_> killown, then yes make an initrd
[10:11] <luz> hi. how to start metacity without gnome?
[10:11] <killown> segfault_ how make it?
[10:11] <kmaynard> look in the System menu..there's an About Ubuntu section
[10:11] <ZirJoker> is kopete compatible with gnome?
[10:11] <compudaze> it'll work
[10:11] <Teltariat> D'oh
[10:11] <Teltariat> so obvious
[10:11] <Teltariat> thanks kmaynard
[10:11] <segfault_> killown, use kernel-package to build ur kernel, read the associated docs that will help
[10:11] <kmaynard> np
[10:12] <killown> ?
[10:12] <segfault_> killown, use kernel-package to build ur kernel, read the associated docs that will help
[10:12] <compudaze> when u install kopete from the premade ubuntu package it'll install the requred libs and will work under gnome
[10:12] <killown> segfault_ but I yet build it
[10:12] <segfault_> compudaze, yes
[10:13] <compudaze> was answering ZirJoker
[10:13] <harleypig> I'm trying to upgrade to kubuntu edgy ... is this the right channel?
[10:13] <compudaze> theres a #kubuntu channel specific to kubuntu
[10:13] <harleypig> thanks
[10:13] <Farm_Fresh> kmaynard:  how do I do that?
[10:13] <segfault_> killown, install the pkg kernel-package, read the docs and man make-kpkg, that can do what u want
[10:14] <henry_> yoyoyo
[10:14] <henry_> kekekeke
[10:14] <henry_> i is teh 1337
[10:14] <compudaze> not really
[10:14] <henry_> h4xxxxxxxxx0r1z3r
[10:14] <blastermaster> how do i make flash 9 use alsa?
[10:14] <finalbeta_> Anyone here who users the "Terminal server client" to connect to a VNC server? When the VNC server has a password, a box comes up, but it doesn't allow you to type anything.
[10:14] <compudaze> just type and press enter
[10:14] <kmaynard> Farm_Fresh: go to mozilla.com, download the linux version. put in in /opt and unpack it there. then run /opt/firefox/firefox and see if it still fubars on you
[10:14] <finalbeta_> Can someone confirm that?
[10:14] <compudaze> nothing will actiually show up
[10:14] <aaronc> anyone else using NVIDIA driver with dual head xinerama after Edgy update successfully?
[10:14] <henry_> UR MOM IS
[10:15] <henry_> USE WINDOWS 95 NOW
[10:15] <henry_> USE WINDOWS 95 NOW
[10:15] <segfault_> !ops
[10:15] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[10:15] <henry_> USE WINDOWS 95 NOW
[10:15] <pir4> what do i lose if i reemplace my amd64 system with a 32bits one? is it worth it ?
[10:15] <henry_> USE WINDOWS 95 NOW
[10:15] <henry_> USE WINDOWS 95 NOW
[10:15] <henry_> USE WINDOWS 95 NOW
[10:15] <eobanb> moron.
[10:15] <Amaranth> lmao
[10:15] <apokryphos> heh
[10:15] <compudaze> pir4: you'll gain for software u can install
[10:15] <Farm_Fresh> nice
[10:15] <aaronc> anyone else using NVIDIA driver with dual head xinerama after Edgy update successfully?
[10:16] <compudaze> pir4: preformance is still good, i have amd64 but run x86
[10:16] <finalbeta_> compudaze, ah, only the big enter works on my keyboard, and it doesn't show any input *, how utterly crappy.
[10:16] <killown> segfault_si what I  do with make-kpkg?
[10:16] <linescanner> aaronc: yep
[10:16] <Farm_Fresh> kmaynard:  haha.. I can't stay online long enough to get it from mozilla
[10:16] <kmaynard> lol
[10:16] <segfault_> killown, read the docs with that pkg, if u still have questions after doing so then i will attempt to help u
[10:16] <kmaynard> hang on
[10:17] <killown> ok
[10:17] <aaronc> linescanner: do you know what version of the NVIDIA binary you are using?  and do you have two cards or a Quadro?
[10:17] <killown> thanks
[10:17] <kmaynard> will send a link
[10:17] <linescanner> one card
[10:17] <eliasz> is there a way to pass ftp a user and password when calling it form the command line, ala ftp user/pass@server.net ?
[10:17] <navaburo> Issue: Ubuntu freezes with a black screen after i tell it to reboot/shutdown/hibernate/suspend or even "end my session"
[10:17] <Riot777> I'm curious what's the deal with those UUID's in fstab and grub config ? If I will modify some partition I should "generate" new UUID to make it work or what ?
[10:17] <mcphail> eliasz: user:pass@server
[10:17] <aaronc> linescanner: hmmm...  that sucks... X keeps crashing with a backtrace for me
[10:18] <pir4> compudaze,  you sure?
[10:18] <variant> finalbeta_: terminal services and vnc are different
[10:18] <kmaynard> Farm_Fresh: wget http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-2.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
[10:18] <linescanner> aaronc: hold for the version
[10:18] <aaronc> linescanner: thanks
[10:18] <variant> finalbeta_: use rdesktop to connect to terminal server
[10:18] <variant> finalbeta_: not vnc
[10:18] <Farm_Fresh> kmaynard: thanks
[10:18] <finalbeta_> variant, it works now, that interface allows you to select the protocol, normall I just use the commandline anyway.
[10:18] <kmaynard> Farm_Fresh: that may cause probs tho...
[10:18] <kmaynard> i'll get a better link
[10:18] <linescanner> aaronc: 8776.  works a treat
[10:18] <variant> Riot777: those are sysfs identifiers, more unique than just /dev/hda etc
[10:18] <Simian__> i need to convert some ogg files to mp3, what would you guys recomend?
[10:19] <ltr^^^> Hello Hello, how do i install the latest version on my ubuntu edgy machine
[10:19] <ltr^^^>  I have the older version, the offical repos didn't update it yet..
[10:19] <variant> finalbeta_: ok
[10:19] <kmaynard> Farm_Fresh: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/
[10:19] <aaronc> linescanner: how'd you get that newer version?  when I try to install through apt I get 8774
[10:19] <killown> segfault_,  I m using make-kpkg -rev Custom.1 kernel_imag
[10:19] <segfault_> Riot777, ive read those are to make fstab more resilliant to system changes, as too the second part of ur question i would think so but i do not know for sure
[10:19] <linescanner> aaronc: direct from nvidia site
[10:19] <Riot777> if I will modify my disk partitions Ubuntu will make new UUID or I will need to make one somehow ?
[10:19] <aaronc> linescanner: ok... I'll go that route
[10:20] <aaronc> thanks
[10:20] <Farm_Fresh> kmaynard:  what is that second link to?
[10:20] <variant> Riot777: they are generated from information taken from the device it's self
[10:20] <segfault_> killown, man make-kpkg u also need the option for --initrd
[10:20] <Riot777> ok, fair enough
[10:20] <variant> Riot777: they will always be the same for that device
[10:20] <eliasz> mcphail that dont seam to be working for me...
[10:20] <variant> Riot777: you can get it from /sys/device/
[10:20] <linescanner> aaronc:  It aint hard.
[10:20] <Falstiu1> hi, my University wants me to use their binary only cisco compatible vpn client ... is their a vpn client in the repos that can read .pcf files?
[10:20] <ianmacgregor> I use Evolution for email. Is there an app/applet that will let me know when I have new mail even if Evolution isn't open?
[10:20] <Riot777> variant: even if I will f.e. resize partition ?
[10:21] <variant> kmaynard: use wget -c to continue the download if it is interupted.. thats what you were needing right?
[10:21] <kmaynard> Farm_Fresh: the mozilla ftp site
[10:21] <mcphail> ianmacgregor: there used to be, but i think gnome dropped it a couple of years ago
[10:21] <Farm_Fresh> oh thanks
[10:21] <ianmacgregor> mcphail: :(
[10:21] <tat> Falstiu1: try vpnc
[10:22] <segfault_> Falstiu1, i have used ciscos vpn for something similar, iirc there is a linux version available, but i donot believe u will find it in the repositories
[10:22] <variant> Riot777: thats a good question actualy, there are a bunch of different ways to id a device in sysfs, you can use any ofh them.. take a look
[10:22] <Evil_Bill_Gates> ow wrong channel, this isnt #windows :S
[10:22] <Riot777> :)
[10:22] <Farm_Fresh> wow 1100 people in here today... must be a lot of problems.. lol
[10:22] <daniel1983denmar> Hi all
[10:22] <linescanner> aaronc:  there is a good set of steps on the ubuntuforums site  You need to clean up all the old stuff you tried via apt first
[10:22] <aaronc> linescanner: ok
[10:22] <variant> Falstiu1: your better off using the client they reccomend, vpn's are dodgey if you mix software
[10:22] <Simian__> what do i need to install to play mp3
[10:22] <aaronc> linescanner: I'll go reread that stuff and see if I missed something
[10:22] <optimusprime> if I type "sudo apt-get install linux-686" will that update to the latest Kernel?
[10:23] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Simian__ about mpe
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <aum> hi - is dapper->edgy update safe yet?
[10:23] <segfault_> !mp2 | Simian__
[10:23] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Simian__ about mp3
[10:23] <apokryphos> Simian__: read the FAQ first please
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <Falstiu1> segfault_: variant, thanks.
[10:23] <optimusprime> which I think is 2.6.18
[10:23] <segfault_> !mp3 | Simian__
[10:23] <ubotu> Simian__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:23] <killown> segfault_, make-kpkg -rev Custom.1 kernel_image --initrd
[10:23] <Farm_Fresh> kmaynard:  that was a setup.exe link?
[10:23] <apokryphos> dear ubotu doesn't understand please :P
[10:23] <Falstiu1> tat: I looked at vpnc, it doesn't seem to handle the config files.
[10:23] <segfault_> killown, that sounds about right
[10:24] <variant> Farm_Fresh: when it locks up can you not use ctrl alt backspace to kill your gui session?
[10:24] <killown> ok
[10:24] <Newbi8> What's pastebin?
[10:24] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[10:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:24] <linescanner> aaronc: what card you got ?
[10:24] <ploom> eliasz: isn't it ftp://user:pass@server.net, but man ftp should help
[10:24] <daniel1983denmar> anyone using Ubunto in VMWare ? I can't install the VM ware tool's ?
[10:24] <aaronc> linescanner: nVidia Corporation NV44 [Quadro NVS 285] 
[10:24] <Farm_Fresh> variant:  no
[10:25] <variant> Falstiu1: seriously, your just going to give your self a headache if you don't use what they reccomend
[10:25] <aaronc> it worked before I went from 6.06 to 6.10
[10:25] <tat> Falstiu1: i think you need to rewrite the config to vpnc format, shouldnt be that much of a problem.
[10:25] <aaronc> so its been a frustrating morning because of that
[10:25] <variant> Falstiu1: have you tried other browsers? like konqueror or epiphny
[10:25] <variant> Falstiu1: it may not be firefox, perhaps some java component that is present on the system
[10:25] <LjL> apokryphos: actually, it does
[10:26] <variant> tat: the config tey have given him is a binary
[10:26] <tat> ah..
[10:26] <apokryphos> ubotu: please tell LjL about foo
[10:26] <prophet> im having an issue connection to my windows share needs authentication but im not sure what to enter cn someone help?
[10:26] <linescanner> aaronc: you have it working under dapper ?
[10:26] <navaburo> any idea why ubuntu crashes when i logout ?
[10:26] <apokryphos> LjL: oh, indeed; interesting.
[10:26] <variant> prophet: get the password from your network admin
[10:26] <prophet> i dont have a network admin
[10:27] <aaronc> linescanner: yeah... 6.06
[10:27] <prophet> i installed the edgy and now it wants authentication, i never really set a password or anything to access that share
[10:27] <valberg> i need some serious help
[10:28] <prophet> where do i change that? win machine or ubuntu?
[10:28] <variant> prophet: dunno
[10:28] <variant> valberg: you dont want my comedy help? :(
[10:28] <prophet> very much help,
[10:28] <valberg> i updated from dapper to edgy using apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:28] <daniel1983denmar> leave
[10:28] <nashnash> when i try to scan with xsane it scans me a blue paper although the paper is wight, how can i change the option to scan on black and white only? thanks alot for the help i appriciate it
[10:28] <valberg> and now it doesn't even want to connect to the net, not alone start X
[10:28] <segfault_> prophet, u likely need to use ur windows login/pass
[10:29] <prophet> i dont have a login/pass for windows
[10:29] <LjL> !nickspam | WindowzPwnz
[10:29] <ubotu> WindowzPwnz: changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu can get you removed - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users, the same goes for using noisy away see (/msg ubotu away) for more details "/away reason" sets your client away silently, thanks
[10:29] <segfault_> valberg, if u would have readthe instructions on upgrade u would see u must do apt-get updatye && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:29] <WindowzPwnz> sorry
[10:29] <Xzyx987X> ok, ok, here's an easy one. how do you set programs or commands to automatically run when a user logs in?
[10:29] <Music_Shuffle> on KDE or Gnome?
[10:30] <Xzyx987X> kde
[10:30] <nashnash> when i try to scan with xsane it scans me a blue paper although the paper is wight, how can i change the option to scan on black and white only? thanks alot for the help i appriciate it
[10:30] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Xzyx987X about startup
[10:30] <ianmacgregor> Xzyx987X: System -> Preferences -> Sessions, go to the Startup Programs tab
[10:31] <segfault_> Xzyx987X, kde has a folder ~/.kde/Autostart, anything executable in there will be ran
[10:31] <Simian__> i've looked through the FAQ and the ubuntu wiki and I'm haveing trouble finding the package to intall for MP3 playback, any ideas?
[10:31] <linescanner> aaronc:  I feel you may be in for a night of playing :)
[10:31] <segfault_> !mp3 | Simian__
[10:31] <ubotu> Simian__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:32] <aaronc> linescanner: ahhh... nah... I think I just found something I was missing... make prepare scripts in the kernel headers dir.... here's to hoping
[10:32] <Simian__> lol that is the page i have just read through
[10:32] <segfault_> Simian__, that page will answer ur question
[10:32] <Mirro> "you dont have permission to write to this folder"..... what should i do?? is there any "sudo" for this??
[10:32] <linescanner> aaronc:  fingers crossed
[10:32] <Maggotin> My sound is not working, I have a Intel HD audio card, how can I make it work?
[10:33] <segfault_> Mirro, man chod
[10:33] <aaronc> linescanner: I'll be back
[10:33] <segfault_> Mirro, sry man chmod
[10:33] <linescanner> aaronc: :)
[10:33] <valberg> anyone want to help me get my net back after upgrading to edgy ?
[10:33] <nashnash> when i try to scan with xsane it scans me a blue paper although the paper is wight, how can i change the option to scan on black and white only? thanks alot for the help i appriciate it
[10:34] <earthian> !info dmraid
[10:34] <ubotu> dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 117 kB, installed size 460 kB
[10:34] <nashnash> !info xsane
[10:34] <ubotu> xsane: GTK+-based X11 frontend for SANE (Scanner Access Now Easy). In component main, is optional. Version 0.99+0.991-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 280 kB, installed size 780 kB
[10:34] <earthian> :(
[10:34] <earthian> still old
[10:34] <Mirro> segfault_: is there any "sudo xcopy this-file that-place" - command??
[10:34] <segfault_> Mirro, cp
[10:34] <earthian> need upgrades of dmraid to work with edgy!!!!!!! \o/
[10:34] <earthian> plz plz
[10:34] <segfault_> Mirro, u can use sudo in fromt of any cmd to run that cmd as root
[10:34] <Pupeno> Does anybody have any idea how to make work the TV out feature of a SiS video card ?
[10:35] <mcphail> segfault_: not _any_ command :)
[10:35] <Falstiu1> Mirro: us 'cp -a' to keep the username and permissions the same (instead of being transfered to the copier such as root)
[10:36] <earthian> how do i get free hdd space?
[10:36] <xst> The mga driver in edgy seems to be broken. Does anyone know when a fix for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-mga/+bug/58721 is available? (Apparently it is fixed in the debian/unstable repository)
[10:36] <mikefoo> Anyone know of a test suite? I just replaced a hard drive and sata controller in a few servers. I want to burn them in for a few days before putting into production. Anyone have a recommendation?
[10:36] <Falstiu1> earthian: from the command line, df -h
[10:37] <earthian> ok thanks
[10:37] <MuPp3t|Eating> Could anyone point me in the direction of a good guide explaining hard drive partitioning? I'm planning to dual boot Ubuntu and XP on a new system.
[10:37] <sam_> OK daftest question ever - how do  i post to the ubuntu forum?
[10:37] <sam_> i cant find the submit/post button anywhere!
[10:37] <ianmacgregor> Ahh, gkrellm has an in-built mail checker
[10:37] <ianmacgregor> :)
[10:37] <landmark> Hello, when i boot ubuntu 6.10 from cd can
[10:38] <landmark> Hello, when i boot ubuntu 6.10 from cd can't start, x server failed on intel 945GM
[10:38] <sam_> where is the post/ submit button on this page pls? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=73
[10:38] <sam_> i am logeed in
[10:39] <MuPp3t> new thread? sam_
[10:39] <linescanner> aaronc: you winning ?
[10:39] <MuPp3t> directly under the last topic, to the left?
[10:39] <sam_> yes
[10:39] <MuPp3t> click "New Thread"?
[10:39] <sam_> thx
[10:39] <Maggotin> Please, how can I make Intel HD audio card work?
[10:39] <MuPp3t> np
[10:40] <terrorblade> hy every1!
[10:40] <nashnash> when i try to scan with xsane it scans me a blue paper although the paper is wight, how can i change the option to scan on black and white only? thanks alot for the help i appriciate it
[10:40] <ryanakca> why is my system very slow after I leave it idling overnight? (well, not idling, boinc runs, but when I don't physically use it)
[10:40] <terrorblade> is it safe to upgrade to edgy?
[10:40] <fm> hi
[10:41] <coastermaster_> i installed the java runtime by going to Applications -> Add/Remove.....and installing Sun Java 5.0 Runtime, but when I type in "java <classname>" it runs using gli
[10:41] <coastermaster_> how do I change this so it runs with java's official interperter?
[10:41] <ezenu> what is the name of the mono c# compiler?
[10:41] <coastermaster> whoops
[10:41] <Bicchi> Q: Are we only going to have generic kernels now?
[10:41] <ryanakca> terrorblade: I would say so... I've been using it since july... just make back ups in case something goes wrong...
[10:41] <fignew> ryanakca: depends on how much you messed with edgy :P
[10:41] <fm> I fucked up my xorg installation, is there a way to brutally reinstall everything related to xorg to have a fresh graphical innstallation, with DRI running and all?
[10:42] <Wodger> ryanakca program "leaks" maybe but at a guess ram used up?
[10:42] <LjL> ryanakca: possibly things get swapped out from RAM to disk. though that's probably not the right explanation, unless the slowness is only initial, when you start tinkering again with the applications you had open
[10:42] <LjL> !language | fm
[10:42] <ubotu> fm: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:42] <terrorblade> 10x
[10:42] <LjL> fm: please elaborate on how you... messed it up
[10:42] <fignew> whoops
[10:42] <fm> trying to install nvidia beta drivers
[10:42] <fm> Xorg complains about API mismatch
[10:43] <fm> I tried to deinstall the beta drivers
[10:43] <LjL> fm: uh, uhm. no idea what that would be :-P
[10:43] <fm> and install xorg-glx instead
[10:43] <Murrlin> where might I find the network card settings? mainly link speed (100/10 half/full)
[10:43] <LjL> ah, the nvidia beta drivers
[10:43] <fm> yes..
[10:43] <ryanakca> fignew: <sarcasm> Oh, I just installed it and looked at it </sarcasm> :D lol, I messed with it, often...
[10:43] <Murrlin> and the ability to change them
[10:43] <fm> I spent an hour trying to get things back to normal, reading the logs and all
[10:43] <Centaur5> I tried upgrading from Dapper but it crippled the system so I want to do a fresh install but it won't boot from text mode or the live cd.  What are my options?
[10:43] <ryanakca> Wodger: ram isn't used up
[10:43] <valberg> when i run "dhclient eht0" i recieve this: "SIOCSIFADDR: Permission denied\n SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied\n SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied\n" together with "send_packet: Network is down\n receive: Network is down"
[10:43] <LjL> fm: try this "sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx; sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[10:44] <apecat> why won't php work in my apache2? I've installed php5 and its apache module, and enabled it
[10:44] <LjL> fm: (and then re-enable the nvidia driver if that needs be)
[10:44] <fm> ok thx I'll try
[10:44] <fm> pray for me
[10:44] <segfault_> apecat, how doesnt it work
[10:44] <fm> I'm sad of the blue scrren
[10:44] <fm> *sick
[10:44] <fm> reminds me of the good old BSOD
[10:44] <segfault_> valberg, must run as root
[10:45] <aaronc> linescanner: well... no go
[10:45] <apecat> segfault_: doesn't output anything from php code
[10:45] <Music_Shuffle> Lol...BSOD...
[10:45] <aaronc> linescanner: I'm going to google some of the backtrace information
[10:45] <valberg> segfault_: i am running it as root :S
[10:45] <linescanner> aaronc:  hmmm.  what you getting ?
[10:45] <LjL> fm: ah, and remove the nvidia-beta repository from your sources.list, if you have it there
[10:45] <ryanakca> LjL: that's what I thought, and then it took a while to get it back into RAM... but no... even starting new applications, restarting the old ones... moving the mouse, everything is slllooowww for about 15 minutes... (gradually getting faster)... after that and it's back to speed
[10:45] <LjL> fm: (before doing what i said)
[10:45] <fm> I downloaded it from nvidias website direcltly
[10:45] <ryanakca> LjL: just another reason to save up money for a new system :)
[10:45] <apecat> and when i try to open my /phpmyadmin the browser just offers to download the phtml file
[10:46] <LjL> ryanakca: ah, well, then i still think it's a swap issue
[10:46] <DShepherd> hi
[10:46] <LjL> ryanakca: you can tweak the kernel's policies for swapping though
[10:46] <segfault_> valberg, try ifconfig etho up first
[10:46] <LjL> ryanakca: google for /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[10:46] <aaronc> linescanner: something almost exactly like this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200851&highlight=signal+11
[10:46] <ryanakca> LjL: build a custom kernel?
[10:46] <ryanakca> kk
[10:46] <donfilipo> anyone expert in media streams on Edgy? I have troubles watching streams... files from HDD play well avi,wmv,even ram files no problem but clicking on a hidden link on the web stream files usualy end with error...anyone can help????
[10:47] <segfault_> apecat, u have to set apache to see those files as code by extensions, i think the php module just uses .php
[10:47] <linescanner> aaronc:  don't you just hate find a match but with no answer :(
[10:47] <Maggotin> Can anybody help me installing alsa?
[10:47] <LjL> ryanakca: no, you can just change the "aggressiveness" of swapping using that /proc file -- basically it decides how likely the kernel is to swap *programs* out of memory in favor of *data* (i.e. file cache)
[10:47] <aaronc> linescanner: yep
[10:48] <ryanakca> LjL: ah, kk
[10:49] <aaronc> linescanner: how could I purge everything Xserver-Xorg related ?
[10:49] <LjL> ryanakca: i think setting it to "0" means processes *never* get swapped out of RAM to make space for caching, while 100 is the most aggressive setting. i could be swapping this, though
[10:50] <linescanner> aaronc: hmmm not sure
[10:50] <aaronc> linescanner: ok
[10:50] <LjL> ryanakca: err, and the pun was not intended =)
[10:50] <linescanner> aaronc: hold on let me dig back through something I book marked
[10:50] <hot_wheelz> hi guys I am trying to setup MythTV but it comes with an error (error processing mythtv-database exit status 1)
[10:51] <rcmiv> on a fresh install of 6.10 I cannot get a terminal with ctrl-F2, I just get the splash screen
[10:51] <dusk> if i wanted the lightest weight install (from scratch), could I get the server release and build up as I go?
[10:52] <Kyral> dusk: yes
[10:52] <linescanner> aaronc:  can you just force a reinstall of Xserver ???
[10:52] <rcmiv> anyone experiencing similar?
[10:52] <Flannel> dusk: you'll want to swap out your kernel to the normal desktop ones
[10:52] <aaronc> linescanner: tried that
[10:52] <necosi_> hello
[10:52] <linescanner> aaronc: hmmmm
[10:52] <necosi_> i have nvidia
[10:52] <Moodles> what happened to "Disks" that was in Dapper, but not in Edgy?
[10:52] <dusk> flannel: then couldnt I just get the Desktop CD version and install it as a server?
[10:53] <necosi_> and i have spend 4 days to install compiz :(
[10:53] <statters> I have a 80GB hard drive 30 GB  is devided between hda1 and swap space,,, I have 50 GB free space but cannot seem to create afat32  partiton using qtparted ,some error about device busy and possible data corruption,,, I assumued it would be possible to create a partiton whilst logged......any ideas as to how I can create this partition?
[10:53] <ryanakca> LjL: ok, it's set to 60, I'm guessing I'd want to reduce it to 45? or would I want to make it 75?
[10:53] <rcmiv> Moodles, it is gone, not being developed anymore
[10:53] <linescanner> aaronc:  you got the 8776 driver ?
[10:53] <GnarusLeo> hi! why cant you get the latest amarok release in edgy? I want to add http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/dists/ to my repos .. but it only has edgy ..
[10:53] <aaronc> linescanner: yep
[10:53] <Flannel> dusk: you don't have that option in the desktop CD, but from the alternate CD, yes.  But, from the server install, installing the desktop kernel is no big deal either.
[10:54] <Moodles> rcmiv: so I have to mount drives manually by commandline now?
[10:54] <samuel> sup all
[10:54] <rcmiv> Moodles, I guess...ticked me off as well
[10:54] <dusk> Flannel: ok thanks
[10:54] <Flannel> dusk: the alternate CD has a 'server' install option, which just installs a GUIless system, the 'server' CD installs a special server kernel (and gives you the LAMP preinstall option),
[10:54] <LjL> ryanakca: you'd want to reduce it, again if i'm not getting this wrong. how much RAM do you have? i'd set it to like 30, with half a gig, but that's just me, there has been heated debate among the kernel developers themselves about what a "good value for everyone" is, i think
[10:55] <statters> I even created a partiton using ranish partition manager from a boot cd but it wont show in qtparted just says the space is free :(
[10:55] <samuel> im going to try port the new gnome-system-tools that ubuntu has in edgy-eft to archlinux... can someone tell me please the new name of the package? is it still gnome-system-tools?
[10:55] <samuel> the user admin and similar
[10:55] <samuel> tools
[10:55] <coastermaster> I imagine that once I've installed the .deb files, I don't have to hold on to them, correct?
[10:55] <dusk> Flannel: im looking for a system with just fluxbox and some assorted gtk themes
[10:55] <dusk> Flannel: not much more
[10:55] <Flannel> dusk: are you on dialup? or is bandwidth not an issue?
[10:55] <dusk> Flannel: fios
[10:55] <linescanner> aaronc:  you cleaned out all this stuff nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-xconfig etc
[10:55] <Zyfo> When I've got autohide on a panel I need to hold the mouse over it for a while until it shows. How can I decrease the time needed to show the panel?
[10:55] <LjL> ryanakca: just look at here http://kerneltrap.org/node/3000 (and no, i think i got it right -- lower number = less aggressive swapping)
[10:55] <towsonu2003> statters, you shouldn't partition a mounted drive. you could use something like this http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:55] <blastermaster> anyone having problems with flash 9 beta and alsa?
[10:56] <Daviey> is this channel logged?
[10:56] <LjL> Daviey: yes
[10:56] <dusk> Daviey: im logging it
[10:56] <blastermaster> anyone?
[10:56] <LjL> !anyone
[10:56] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:57] <Flannel> dusk: fios?  well, the server CD is 400mb, the ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu alternate CD is ~700mb, those come with the desktop, and some additional packages ontop of those.  All three of the latter have 'server' install options.
[10:57] <Daviey> LjL, dusk, where can i view the log?
[10:57] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Daviey about logs
[10:57] <statters> towsonu2003:  I used Ultimate boot disk to create partiton (live CD) but still it does not show in disk manager, just reports it as free space
[10:57] <Daviey> !logs
[10:57] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[10:57] <dusk> Flannel: heh, fios is verizons fiber connection
[10:57] <statters> thanks for info ill chk it out
[10:57] <blastermaster> ok bye
[10:57] <Daviey> LjL, thank you
[10:57] <rcmiv> on a fresh install of 6.10 I cannot get a terminal with ctrl-F2, I just get the splash screen
[10:57] <dusk> Flannel: so I could get the alternative install and build from server?
[10:58] <rcmiv> anyone experiencing similar?
[10:58] <terrorblade> blastermaster , I have problems wit flash
[10:58] <dusk> Flannel: and not have to worry about that pesky "root" problem
[10:58] <terrorblade> but alsa works fine
[10:58] <Flannel> dusk: certainly.  the 'server' option will install a normal GUI-less linux install
[10:58] <aaronc> linescanner: yep
[10:58] <LjL> rcmiv: well, it should be *alt*+f2 (or ctrl+alt+f2 if you start from inside X), not ctrl
[10:58] <aaronc> linescanner: AFK for a few moments
[10:58] <jcanfield> Looks like the LDAPcleintauth documentation is wrong, how do I fix it?
[10:58] <linescanner> aaronc:  ok
[10:58] <blastermaster> do u know a work arroung terrorblade
[10:59] <rcmiv> Ljl, oh yeah, my mistake, ctrl+alt+f2....still doesn't work, all i get is the splash
[10:59] <LjL> rcmiv: same with the other terminals? F1 F3 etc?
[10:59] <rcmiv> yep
[10:59] <earthian> rcmiv i get tty2 console
[10:59] <Flannel> jcanfield: which documentation?
[10:59] <ryanakca> LjL: yeah, that's what I was looking at :)
[10:59] <alecjw> does anyone know how i can get amarok to use gstreamer rather than xine?
[10:59] <rcmiv> i should try booting nosplash
[10:59] <terrorblade> nop .... sorry
[11:00] <LjL> ryanakca: unsurprising, since it's google's i-feel-lucky for "swappiness" ;-)
[11:00] <rcmiv> earthian, yeah that's what I should be getting
[11:00] <aaronc> linescanner: well... hello TwinView, bye bye Xinerama
[11:00] <dk0r> How do I uninstall ubuntu from a partition on my powerbook? I cannot find any documentation :(
[11:00] <aaronc> linescanner: working now
[11:00] <ryanakca> LjL: lol :)
[11:00] <LjL> rcmiv: tried ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X, and then ctrl+alt+f2 again?
[11:00] <jcanfield> Flannel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication
[11:00] <Flannel> dk0r: just format it to whatever else you want
[11:00] <rcmiv> Ljl, yep
[11:00] <dk0r> Flannel: How?
[11:00] <n1gke> Good evening folks.
[11:00] <Flannel> jcanfield: that's wikified, so log in and change it
[11:00] <dk0r> Flannel: Do I need the ubuntu live disc?
[11:00] <rcmiv> f7 works, but no go on f2..3..4.. etc
[11:00] <jcanfield> Flannel, k
[11:00] <Flannel> dk0r: whatever partition tools are on OSX, or you could use a liveCD, sure.
[11:01] <Flannel> jcanfield: and, thanks for your help ;)
[11:01] <rcmiv> weird...i did notice the splash didn't finish (the ornage line)
[11:01] <dk0r> Flannel: The osx native partition tool is called disk utility, it does not recognize the ubuntu partition.
[11:01] <dusk> heh
[11:01] <linescanner> aaronc:  doh.  Me being Blonde.  I didn't read your first post properly.  Mine is Twinview Xinerama sucks
[11:01] <dk0r> Flannel: So I guess I am forced to use the ubuntu live disc, right ?
[11:01] <dusk> where the h is the bt dl
[11:01] <Flannel> dk0r: should still be able to partition it, even if it's an unknown filetype
[11:01] <rcmiv> they should have called it buggy instead of edgy
[11:01] <Shadow_mil> gdm and Xorg are running, but I don't see anything
[11:01] <jcanfield> Flannel, I'm catching hell with the new nss_ldap.
[11:01] <linescanner> arronc:  sorry.  Been a long day
[11:01] <mikeconcepts> any current howto for vnc into edgy with beryl?
[11:01] <aaronc> linescanner: heheh...  Xinerama does suck... thanks for the help
[11:02] <ryanakca> LjL: ok, so this guy says that he has 100 because he feels swapping out is "bad"... so is my problem that it doesn't swap out enough (meaning that I want a lower number) or that it swaps out too much which means it takes longer to load back into ram (which means I want a higher number)
[11:02] <linescanner> aaronc: np
[11:02] <Daviey> .whowas yango
[11:02] <mikeconcepts> any x11vnc users with edgy and beryl?
[11:02] <rambo3> j #php.se
[11:02] <eliasz> is there any command i can run, to return the date in a YYYYMMDD format? without having to write a complicated script to parse output form date?
[11:02] <linescanner> arronc:  Once you have 2 displays working, it is soooo crap going back to one
[11:03] <ehird> My X problem happens again after a reboot.
[11:03] <LjL> ryanakca: uhm no, as i read it, he's set it at 100 because he feels swapping is *good* - "My point is that *decreasing* the tendency of the kernel to swap stuff out is *wrong*"  (emphasis mine)
[11:03] <dk0r> Does anyone know where the removal of ubuntu from a powerbooks partition is documented?
[11:03] <ehird> I'm just going to use windows.
[11:03] <LjL> ryanakca: but, as others have objected, on an interactive system the user might dislike waiting too long for applications to come up after they've been swapped out -- which is why you should try setting it to a *low* value
[11:03] <ehird> It may suck but it works.
[11:03] <ryanakca> LjL: ah... kk, ty
[11:03] <dusk> does anyone know the most active torrent for ubuntu?
[11:04] <ryanakca> LjL: I have a feeling he's a non-xorg+aiglx+beryl type of guy :)
[11:04] <Flannel> dk0r: if disk manager can't do it, then boot up a liveCD, partition it to free space, or to something that disk man. can read, like... maybe fat or something
[11:04] <LjL> ryanakca: hehe yeah, i guess the same :)
[11:05] <nashnash> i cant set my printer to print more than 1 page, when i try to print from the lan from anoter window computer, plz help
[11:05] <datil> can anyone confirm that Edgy Eft release supports intel ICH8 sata controller and JMicron pata controller? (asus p5b motherboard)
[11:05] <ryanakca> LjL: of course, I could fix all my problems by getting a new machine with more ram... (12mb free ram left... *gulps*)
[11:05] <PeeCee> I just installed Xgl, Corpiz and Beryl - it seems to work fine, but when i press the Arrow Down key, ubuntu starts Evolution - do anybody know how to remove this shortcut?
[11:06] <LjL> ryanakca, i don't think so (i mean, that you have "12mb left") -- how did you look at the RAM you've left?
[11:06] <coastermaster> how do I recover from a botched package installation?
[11:06] <earthian> datil you can try that with ubuntu edgy eft livecd
[11:06] <Flannel> PeeCee: you might ask in #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl
[11:06] <coastermaster> i can copy and paste the terminal info from the install, but I don't know where to paste it
[11:06] <alecjw> can anyone help me work out what packages i need to play mp3's with the xine engine please?
[11:06] <killown> I cannot get kernel 2.6.18.1 in apt-get , what repository has it kernel?
[11:06] <ryanakca> LjL: top... 11640k free,  (unless I've forgotten how to convert 'k' into 'mb')
[11:06] <datil> earthian, yeah well.. but before wasting another dvd-r (6.06 LTS freezes when loading the livecd)..
[11:07] <PeeCee> Flannel.. ok.. i'll try that
[11:07] <TGPO> killown compile it
[11:07] <killown> TGPO I want binary
[11:07] <toulouse> hey i forgot, how to i join another room?
[11:07] <Flannel> killown: Edgy has 2.6.17, you won't find 2.6.18 in it
[11:07] <LjL> ryanakca: no, you didn't forget anything. it's just that it's normal -- linux caches aggressively. most of that "used up" memory is really going to be freed up as soon as a program requests it
[11:07] <segfault_> killown, none
[11:07] <Flannel> toulouse: /join #[room] 
[11:07] <TGPO> killown then you have to wait for them to distribute it
[11:07] <LjL> ryanakca: i've got 8mb "free" myself
[11:08] <ryanakca> LjL: ouch, how much ram in total?
[11:08] <TGPO> killown the only way to get it right now is do it yourself
[11:08] <coastermaster> i screwed up installing jedit (downloaded the .deb file and ran 'sudo dpkg -i jedit_4.3pre6_all.deb') and it didn't install correctly and now I can't undo what I've done
[11:08] <exhale> i installed libxine-extracodecs and amarok still cant play mp3s, anyone got any ideas?
[11:08] <earthian> datil use cdrw :)
[11:08] <coastermaster> I tried dpkg --purge jedit, but that didn't work
[11:08] <datil> heh
[11:08] <pir4> h6w can i set up my super key ? can someone help me ?
[11:08] <meh> l
[11:08] <TGPO> exhale xmms
[11:08] <earthian> datil btw i believe ubuntu livecds are not dvds
[11:08] <mkruskamp> Im trying to connect my wireless to the Network at school and am running into some issues. It is a radius server running on Windows domain.. it is using dynamic WEP with 2 stage authentication MSCHAPV2 and PEAP. Anyone know how to connect to it?
[11:08] <killown> Flannel edgy has packs current?
[11:08] <LjL> ryanakca: half a gig
[11:08] <killown> edgy is the best?
[11:08] <Shadow_mil2> how do I install xgl on ubuntu edgy?
[11:08] <ryanakca> LjL: 375mb here... :S
[11:08] <dusk> er, its been awhile since I dual booted a computer.. do I install windows first THEN linux?
[11:09] <datil> earthian, well, there're those dvd releases that include both the livecd part and the alternate installs,etc part if i'm not wrong
[11:09] <Shadow_mil2> dusk: yes
[11:09] <TGPO> killown yes
[11:09] <Flannel> killown: what? yes, edgy is the most recent kernels you'll find
[11:09] <killown> ok thanks
[11:09] <Shadow_mil2> how do I install xgl on ubuntu edgy?
[11:09] <Flannel> dusk: that's easiest, if you do it the other way around, you'll need to reinstall grub after windows overwrites it
[11:09] <pir4> Shadow_mil,  #ubuntu-xgl
[11:09] <alecjw> dusk: hat would be a good idea, otherwise windoze takes over your mbr and you can't get to grub/boot ubuntu
[11:09] <mkruskamp> Im trying to connect my wireless to the Network at school and am running into some issues. It is a radius server running on Windows domain.. it is using dynamic WEP with 2 stage authentication MSCHAPV2 and PEAP. Anyone know how to connect to it?
[11:10] <PeeCee> Shadow_mil.. I followed this guide: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/XGL/Compiz_Nvidia_32bit
[11:10] <Shish> dusk: if you're installing two OSes on one disk, make sure that the windows partition doesn't use up all the space
[11:10] <LjL> ryanakca: it's still fine. now i don't quite remember what's the correct way to see the amount of memory that's just used by caching, but i *think* it should be the "cache" column when you type "vmstat" -- it's going to be a big value, i think
[11:10] <LjL> ryanakca: which really can be considered (again, if i'm correct that it's the right number to look at) as free memory
[11:10] <earthian> LjL you can use top cmd to see memory status
[11:10] <dusk> Shish: I have a giant ntfs onboard raid.. all my files will be there
[11:10] <spawn> hello everyone
[11:11] <earthian> or use gnome-system-manager that shows free memory without caches
[11:11] <ryanakca> LjL: 109880k... not bad... :D
[11:11] <okiweb> et ta mr-er
[11:11] <LjL> earthian: alright, but what is the figure that tells me what the caching is? "Cached" under the "Swap" row?
[11:11] <LjL> (don't have gnome)
[11:11] <ryanakca> LjL: I'll let you know if having it set to  '45' instead of 60 makes any difference tommorow when I come back :)
[11:11] <earthian> oh
[11:12] <LjL> ryanakca: well, i've got 190Mb. fits with the fact that i have >100mb more RAM than you
[11:12] <variant> LjL: try vmstat -a
[11:12] <spawn> Hey Im new to linux.. can anyone tell me how can I log in as root..? I need to delete some files that are only editable by root?
[11:12] <gevaudan82> Hello all...has anyone installed network-manager-gnome on Ubuntu? I have but there's no shortcut on Gnome's panel and I have no idea what the binary is called...any ideas?
[11:12] <variant> spawn: sudo -i
[11:12] <Farm_Fresh> ugg... still having the lockup issue.. Now when epifiney (sp*?) and firefox...  I hasn't happened with any other programs that I am aware of
[11:12] <spawn> thanks variant
[11:12] <gevaudan82> spawn: either use sudo or enable root by typing sudo passwd root
[11:12] <LjL> ryanakca: i'd set it to at least 30, or less. even try 0 for kicks -- that's probably exaggerate, but if you want to be sure you see an effect...
[11:12] <Zyfo> When I've got autohide on a panel I need to hold the mouse over it for a while until it shows. How can I decrease the time needed to show the panel?
[11:12] <variant> gevaudan82: yes, it is a service that is started automatically
[11:13] <coz_> spawn, I can but unfortunaltey most of the users in here will tell you NOT to log in as root
[11:13] <LjL> ryanakca: really, i'd just try 0 for one night, at least you'll know for sure if you've pinpointed the problem
[11:13] <coz_> but if you want to know i can tell you
[11:13] <variant> gevaudan82: killall gnome-panel and it will restart
[11:13] <gevaudan82> variant: isn't there supposed to be an icon in the tray though? it looks like it according to the website
[11:13] <Flannel> spawn: you use sudo, no need to set a root password
[11:13] <gevaudan82> variant: ahh ok, thanks
[11:13] <coz_> spawn, but if you want to know I can tell you
[11:13] <coastermaster> how would I go about fixing this error I get when trying to do anything related to packages:
[11:13] <coastermaster> woah, didn't paste
[11:13] <LjL> variant: uhm, that gives me an "inact" column instead of a "buff" column... how would i interpret that?
[11:13] <phillip> can someone help me set up wine
[11:13] <Flannel> coastermaster: don't paste ;)  use pastebin
[11:13] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell phillip about wine
[11:13] <coz_> spawn, you still want to know?
[11:14] <TGPO> phillip apt-get install wine
[11:14] <necosi_> hello, i have installed 6.10 now, and i have nvidia no legacy and i have make apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:14] <TGPO> phillip wone-cfg
[11:14] <earthian> LjL better use some value up to 5 ... having 0 might cause out of memory problems.. and some low value would allow system swap stuff anyway (thats my point of view)
[11:14] <spawn> im looking for you name for priv.
[11:14] <TGPO> phillip wine-cfg
[11:14] <necosi_> nvidia-..... enable
[11:14] <necosi_> but busid = 0:5:0 so it have crash
[11:14] <variant> LjL: active memory and inactive memory, am i not on the same wavelength as you guys or what?
[11:14] <coz_> spawn, is your nic registered
[11:14] <LjL> earthian: the system will *still* swap out applications AFAIK, it just won't swap them out in favour of file caching
[11:14] <mrdude> anyone know alot about XGL ?
[11:14] <ryanakca> LjL: kk
[11:15] <j-swim> hey folks, is it really necessary to use mythtv to use a tv-tuner card (pvr 150)?
[11:15] <necosi_> later nvidia-... disable but gdm have problem to restart...
[11:15] <Flannel> mrdude: try #ubuntu-xgl
[11:15] <mrdude> its plaguing me
[11:15] <gevaudan82> variant: i just did a killall gnome-panel and it refreshed but still no icon...do i need to reboot or something?
[11:15] <mrdude> sounds good
[11:15] <mrdude> thanks
[11:15] <ryanakca> !xgl | mrdude
[11:15] <ubotu> mrdude: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:15] <variant> gevaudan82: no, definately not
[11:15] <coz_> spawn, that is ok I can tell you if you want to know
[11:15] <coz_> spawn, open a terminal
[11:15] <phillip> thanks everyone. another Q. im on breezy atm. should i upgrade to edgy eft or am i fine where i am. if so is there an scrip to update automatically
[11:15] <variant> gevaudan82: thats odd, i get the icon in my notification area, you will need that to be part of the panel
[11:15] <ryanakca> LjL: any other cool things about tweaking linux that I should know?
[11:16] <LjL> variant, basically ryanakca was worried that he had "only 10mb of free memory", and i explained that much of the "taken up" memory is really just used for caching, and will be freed at once when needed -- i just wasn't sure of which figure to look at to actually find out what the "really free" memory was (or, conversely, how much memory was taken up by caching)
[11:16] <ryanakca> LjL: automaticly I'm typing faster than it shows up on the screen...
[11:16] <coz_> spawn, let me know when you have it
[11:16] <gevaudan82> variant: i had notification area added b/c i use checkgmail which relies on that...after killing all even that doesn't show up
[11:16] <variant> LjL: i see
[11:16] <Geoffrey2> phillip, you can only upgrade to Edgy from Dapper
[11:16] <LjL> ryanakca: that's a bit generic ;)
[11:16] <Flannel> phillip: if you're upgrading from breezy you'll want to upgrade to dapper first.  And, you'll probably be satisfied with dapper.  In six months breezy won't be supported anymore, just... so you know long term
[11:16] <bimberi> phillip: breezy is still supported, so that's fine.  Upgrade if you're wanting later versions
[11:16] <ryanakca> LjL: well, sorry
[11:16] <ryanakca> :P
[11:16] <bimberi> !upgrade | phillip
[11:16] <ubotu> phillip: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[11:16] <coz_> spawn, you still there guy?
[11:17] <gevaudan82> variant: got checkgmail back by running the binary again but still no network-manager
[11:17] <variant> ryanakca: if you want to really speed up your swap space you can have two small fast hard disks both swap and set priority=0 for both of them in fstab, kinda like a swap raid :) makes them twice as fast
[11:17] <spawn> I send u a prive coz
[11:17] <variant> gevaudan82: just a sek
[11:17] <magyar> hi all
[11:17] <coz_> spawn is your nic registered?
[11:17] <j-swim> hey folks, is it really necessary to use mythtv to use a tv-tuner card (pvr 150)?
[11:17] <nashnash> i cant set my printer to print more than 1 time printing, when i try to print from the lan from anoter window computer, plz help
[11:17] <spawn> no
[11:17] <LjL> ryanakca: well, i guess i might know some more "tricks", but i'm not sure i could think of them out of my head, without a specific topic being brought up... anyway, the /proc and /sys filesystems are always interesting. and dangerous at times, too ;)
[11:17] <alecjw> what plugins do i need to play mp3's im amarok?
[11:17] <ryanakca> LjL: what if I told you ever 2-3 seconds, 4-5 lines just popped up ini my channel windows instead of 1 line at a time ?
[11:17] <valberg> i have a problem regarding the removal of a failed installation of samba
[11:17] <spawn> i just installed xchat
[11:17] <^Ocean^> j-swim: i use one called TV time
[11:17] <dusk> spawn: now uninstall it and use irssi
[11:17] <valberg> when i try to remove samba or samba-common it just fails
[11:17] <alecjw> !mp3
[11:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:18] <gevaudan82> alecjw: install w32codecs and then when you try to play an mp3 file, amarok should automatically install the other dependency
[11:18] <ryanakca> LjL: ooh, danger... now, I'm going to make that number bigger, this is being a pain...
[11:18] <^Ocean^> but its just a basic tv tuner software nothing fancy
[11:18] <LjL> ryanakca: i'd tell you it's the same here
[11:18] <valberg> and when i try to run apt-get -f install it also fails
[11:18] <TGPO> irssi ??? if you want broke
[11:18] <pedrocr> I'm trying to join 4 disks in RAID5 and then run LVM on them. The installation went fine using the edgy server image but now I can't get lilo to install anywhere. I've tried /dev/md0 /dev/sda and /dev/sda1
[11:18] <bimberi> valberg: put the error message on a pastebin
[11:18] <coz_> spawn, don't worry about it I can tell you here
[11:18] <donfilipo> oho hi coz_ you're here again remember my troubles with streaming videos...i did everything on that how to site but the problem seems to be deeper
[11:18] <bimberi> !pastebin
[11:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:18] <watson540> hrm, anyone know if i can change the framebuffer (console) resolution from within it, i know how to change it at boot through grub but i want to change it on the fly
[11:18] <LjL> ryanakca: there must be some server lag (and my Konversation's scrolling is a bit harsh as well)
[11:18] <variant> gevaudan82: ok, sorry you need to run nm-applet
[11:18] <coz_> donfilipo, ah oh
[11:18] <LjL> ryanakca: why's it a pain?
[11:18] <coz_> donfilipo, that is not good
[11:18] <pedrocr> is putting every partition inside LVM inside RAID5 supported?
[11:18] <j-swim> ^Ocean^: ok, so you didn't have to install mythtv then to get it to work right?
[11:18] <valberg> something about a dangling symlink
[11:18] <variant> gevaudan82: bear in mind htat I have had hellish problems with networking in edgy
[11:19] <ryanakca> LjL: beryl isn't running smoothly anymore, mouse gets stuck in places, etc
[11:19] <coz_> donfilipo, what is happenin now
[11:19] <variant> gevaudan82: different network managers fighting over the ip address etc.. its a big mess (for me
[11:19] <j-swim> ^Ocean^: what tv-tuner card do you have?
[11:19] <spawn> coz_ can u c my priv I send u?
[11:19] <coz_> spawn, no maybe because you nic is not registered
[11:19] <gevaudan82> variant: hmm, this is kind of my experience over the weekend...thought i'd give network-manager another go around...i can run the applet but it says no networks have been found...not really anything else i can do it looks like
[11:19] <LjL> ryanakca: i'd give it some minutes to settle down -- perhaps it's just swapping in stuff that it'd swapped out, now.
[11:19] <alecjw> thanks, gevaudan82
[11:19] <donfilipo> listen coz_ my avi,wmv,and even ram files work from HDD in almost any player but no stream works in browser...so it's not codecs
[11:19] <LjL> ryanakca: if it's still like this in 5 minutes or so, then set it higher
[11:19] <elriah> 6.10 rocks
[11:20] <variant> gevaudan82: do you use wireless? fixed ip/ dhcp?
[11:20] <ryanakca> LjL: kk
[11:20] <variant> gevaudan82: i can probably help you fix it
[11:20] <coz_> donfilipo, well adk around here someone might have the answer for you
[11:20] <gevaudan82> variant: i'm on wireless now but i use both...at my apartment i use static ips, at work dhcp
[11:20] <coz_> donfilipo, I am sorry I couldn't help you more
[11:20] <variant> LjL: what is he "setting"?
[11:20] <beau> hi
[11:20] <xerophyte> I am aware kde has Kdevelop for GUI Programming env, is there anything like that for the gnome ??
[11:20] <variant> gevaudan82: and nothing is working reliably?
[11:20] <ryanakca> variant: kk, aka, 800mb and 4gig?
[11:20] <spawn> so how do I register my nick?
[11:20] <bimberi> xerophyte: anjuta
[11:20] <mcphail> xerophyte: anjuta
[11:20] <ryanakca> variant: /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[11:20] <variant> ryanakca: what?
[11:21] <variant> ryanakca: ok
[11:21] <coz_> spawn, well right now lets get your root thing settled
[11:21] <coz_> spawn, are you ready?
[11:21] <spawn> ok
[11:21] <ryanakca> variant: for the faster swap...
[11:21] <spawn> yeah
[11:21] <coz_> spawn, first open a terminal
[11:21] <beau> so im having some problems accessing my windows files through a live cd ubuntu
[11:21] <gevaudan82> variant: i'm on my laptop running ubuntu now so networking is fine...i just want to use nm-applet to manage my connections instea do fhte Networking app under the System menu...currently i'm using that and wifi radar
[11:21] <spawn> its open
[11:21] <donfilipo> coz_ can you confirm anyone has working streams on edgy with gnome...if that is the case i will reinstall
[11:21] <coz_> spawn, the type this in sudo passwd root  that is not mispelled
[11:21] <bimberi> beau: problems?
[11:22] <LjL> variant: /proc/sys/vm/swappiness -- leaves the system on all night (with BOINC running, also), and the day after the system is quite slow for some 15 minutes. i think aggressive swapping out of processes in favor of filecaching by the kernel may be the culrpit
[11:22] <variant> ryanakca: yeah, i was thinking a partition at hte start of each of your hard disks made to swap (the fastest part of the disk is the outside edgy) and set all the priorities to 0
[11:22] <coz_> donfilipo, I use streaming stuff in firefox all the time
[11:22] <spawn> ok its asking me for unix pass
[11:22] <beau> yeah i am pretty new to ubuntu, ive got some linux distros on some old machines but i dont really use them for more than browsing
[11:22] <coz_> spawn, put in your password then I usually use the same password for the root account as well
[11:22] <donfilipo> coz_ you have edgy and gnome?
[11:22] <halorgium> if i have an ICH8/R chipset, am i screwed?
[11:22] <coz_> donfilipo, yes i do
[11:22] <Juanpablo> (()) info
[11:22] <LjL> ryanakca: but anyway, a setting of 0 or even 5 probably *is* a bit excessive (though i'm sure on that kerneltrap link, or similar pages, you'll see plenty of people using it) -- i'm really just suggesting that you try it for one night. then set it to 30 or something
[11:22] <gevaudan82> donfilipo: best bet is to install mediaconnectivity..it's a plugin for firefox that lets you launch all media in its native viewer without relying on plugins...you might have better luck than relying on embedded video
[11:23] <variant> LjL: thats cool, i hav eused gnu/linux but i never new about /proc/sys/vm/swappiness :) although i think i heard it mentioned back when i was a noob and it flew over my head :P
[11:23] <beau> im wondering if there is a way to access my windows files through the live cd
[11:23] <spawn> it said passowrd updated successfully
[11:23] <coz_> donfilipo, I suggest that you don't use automatix next time i haven't tested that wiht edgy yet
[11:23] <variant> LjL: i have used gnu/linux for years * i ment to se
[11:23] <bimberi> beau: ok, but please give us some more details on the problems if you're after some help
[11:23] <variant> say
[11:23] <coz_> spawn, where are we guy
[11:23] <bimberi> beau: where are the files
[11:23] <bimberi> ?
[11:23] <variant> beau: yeah, just mount the disk
[11:23] <gevaudan82> beau: yes by following the guide concerning ntfs at ubuntuguide.org...if it's fat32 however you can just mount it
[11:23] <spawn> it said now passoword updated successfuly
[11:23] <variant> gevaudan82: he can just mount it if its ntfs
[11:23] <beau> yeah it's fat32 on hda0
[11:24] <coz_> spawn remeber that pasword ... you now have a root account but now we have to allow root to log in
[11:24] <gevaudan82> variant: even to write?
[11:24] <spawn> ok
[11:24] <earthian> hmm.. i just happened to think of a question: i have 2 SATA HDDs that are connected to my SATA RAID controller which is a software one.. I have used dmraid utility to make the RAID0 array usable in dapper. I have partitioned the RAID disk into 3 partitions (boot, swap and root). Now dmraid is not working with edgy. Do you know if if i install edgy on a single PATA HDD would i be able to reuse my SATA RAID later? i.e. mount it somewhere or so. ??
[11:24] <coz_> spawn, go to system administrator login window
[11:24] <beau> mount /hda0 ?
[11:24] <variant> beau: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt (presumably its 1)
[11:24] <apecat> I earlier mentioned a problem with php and phpmyadmin on apache. Now i can load and execute .php files, but when i try to access my phpmyadmin directory my browser throws a download dialogue for a phtml file in my face. what should i do?
[11:24] <variant> beau: then ls /mnt
[11:24] <beau> kk thx guys
[11:24] <coz_> spawn, are you there
[11:24] <phillip> i love you guys :D so much info
[11:24] <variant> beau: you might need to use sudo to mount it
[11:25] <spawn> yeah
[11:25] <spawn> im reading u
[11:25] <Hoobly> I've got very dumb questions about getting ubuntu installed on an old imac.  Who can help?
[11:25] <gevaudan82> beau: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda0 /mnt/location
[11:25] <coz_> now go under the security tab
[11:25] <variant> gevaudan82: no, i guess not. but thats not what he asked :)
[11:25] <earthian> maybe somebody could suggest me an alternate way to use my partitioned RAID under edgy without dmraid and keeping all data there ?
[11:25] <coz_> spawn, go under the security tab and tick the allow adminstrator log on
[11:25] <variant> gevaudan82: you dont need to speciy hte format
[11:25] <bimberi> Hoobly: oldworld imac?
[11:25] <TGPO> spawn with this much traffic it helps to use the persons name when you start typing
[11:25] <earthian> its around 300gigs of used spave /o\
[11:25] <coz_> spawn, did you do that
[11:25] <earthian> space*
[11:25] <Hoobly> bimberi: aye!
[11:25] <gevaudan82> variant: isn't that what the -t is for?
[11:25] <bimberi> !oldworld | Hoobly
[11:26] <ubotu> Hoobly: For installation on Old World PowerMacs see this URL https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[11:26] <spawn> coz_ yes i did
[11:26] <Hoobly> bimberi: os 9.2
[11:26] <donfilipo> gevaudan82 thanks i will try that...coz if that does not work i will probably reinstall this was a upgrade from dapper and first time i messed with real player installation i probably should have used the sudo and after that i was lost
[11:26] <variant> gevaudan82: yeah, you DONT need to use it :)
[11:26] <coz_> spawn,  ok now all you have to do is log off log in with root and the passowrd you used
[11:26] <variant> gevaudan82: mount guesses the filesystem 99.9999% of the time correctly
[11:26] <gevaudan82> variant: err, i misread you, thanks for pointing this out
[11:26] <spawn> coz_ thanks
[11:26] <alecjw> is there any way of making amarok automatically sync it's collection with my portable media player?
[11:26] <coz_> spawn, no problem be careful in that root account
[11:26] <variant> gevaudan82: note that i made up the 99.99999%  ;)
[11:27] <LjL> variant: well, i think it's only been there in the 2.6 kernels anyway, it was hardcoded in 2.4 IIRC, so you haven't lost it for too long i suppose ;-) anyway myself i just happily leave it at the default (i'm not using this computer for background tasks much, or leaving it on at night, etc, anyway)
[11:27] <Hoobly> bimberi: thanx
[11:27] <Hoobly> !oldworld
[11:27] <ubotu> For installation on Old World PowerMacs see this URL https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[11:27] <coz_> donfilipo, so what are you going to do reinstall?
[11:27] <bimberi> Hoobly: yw :)
[11:27] <spawn> coz_ are you always here?? cause I wanted to know more things about linux if you have the time?
[11:27] <alecjw> !amarok
[11:27] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[11:27] <alecjw> damn
[11:27] <phillip> is upgrading to edgy as easy as it is to dapper?
[11:27] <coz_> spawn, well I am in and out but honestly there are more knowledgeable people than myself
[11:27] <Lubix> ! GTK
[11:27] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
[11:27] <donfilipo> coz_ the whole OS
[11:27] <coz_> spawn, but yess i am here on occasion
[11:27] <samuel> what package contains the nice user admin tool in edgy?
[11:27] <Lubix> !ubuntu
[11:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[11:27] <beau> it is telling me it doesnt exist
[11:28] <variant> LjL: how do you interpret the value? mine is 60 at the momment
[11:28] <Feldegast> philip i found the edgy upgrade easy....
[11:28] <Lubix> !gcc
[11:28] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:28] <variant> phillip: just make sure your system is in a sane state before you do it
[11:28] <coz_> donfilipo, well i reinstall frequently  if i screw up I reinstall if  driver screws up I reinstall lol
[11:28] <spawn> coz_ one more question... How can I use my svideo on linux?
[11:28] <LabThug> I have an app (ColdFusion MX) that still uses libc.so.6.  Upgrading to Edgy seems to have removed this file, how do i get it back?
[11:28] <adie> phillip: upgrade horror for the masses ;)
[11:28] <LjL> variant: 0 means "never swap out processes in favour of caching", 100 is the most aggressive setting (i suppose it means "whenever you're out of memory for caching, just swap out applications with no respect", not sure though)
[11:28] <coz_> spawn, well there you see, I am the wrong person for that question...lol.. you may wnat to ask someone else about that one
[11:29] <spawn> lol
[11:29] <kalikiana> Why did edgy alter my fstab?
[11:29] <LabThug> I have /usr/lib/libc.so, but when I make a symlink to that, Cold Fusion whines about invalid ELF headers
[11:29] <variant> phillip: before editing your sources.list do apt-get upgrade and make sure everything is fine (no errors or warnings) then procede to edit your sources.list and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:29] <spawn> coz_ thanks anyway i'll brb
[11:29] <coz_> spawn,  just becareful , again, in that root account
[11:29] <LjL> variant: basically, a lower value is "better" for systems where you value speed for interactive things (GUIs, for instance), while a higher value is "better" for having speed in data-crunching situations
[11:29] <spawn> coz_ thanks
[11:29] <coz_> spawn, also do not gon the internet while in the root account
[11:29] <spawn> no problem
[11:29] <adie> phillip: make sure you're not running a custom kernel as well!
[11:29] <coz_> spawn, enjoy
[11:29] <variant> LjL: so, for a server system you would have hight values if there was little conections and high load?
[11:30] <Hoobly> bimberi: So what you're telling me is, it's not easy
[11:30] <spawn> coz_ ok thanks i just need it to erase a file
[11:30] <alecjw> anyone? how can i make amarok sync my collection with a portable media device?
[11:30] <donfilipo> well coz_ you know someday maybe the system will be waterproof ...until then we will have to reinstall a lot
[11:30] <LjL> variant: probably. though as i mentioned, there was much debate about kernel people about "what's a good swappiness value". just google "swappiness" and you'll see ;)
[11:30] <variant> LjL: you set it with echo "whatevernumberhere" > /proc/sys/vm/swappines?
[11:30] <kalikiana> Why did edgy alter my fstab?
[11:30] <variant> LjL: lol ok :)
[11:30] <LjL> variant: yes, but you need to be root. and, oh, it doesn't survive reboots
[11:30] <bimberi> Hoobly: In reality I basically knew that the page existed.  I've not done it myself.
[11:30] <variant> LjL: understood
[11:30] <ATAQ> hey does anyone know how i install sdl image so i an play vdrift?
[11:31] <samuel> if i am to install edgy how can i tell it to use a vesa card?
[11:31] <bimberi> samuel: gnome-system-tools contains the users-admin tool
[11:31] <LjL> samuel: you mean, how to tell it to use your card in VESA mode rather than with the specific drivers for it?
[11:31] <variant> ATAQ: apt-get install libsdl-image
[11:31] <Tomcat_> ATAQ: sudo apt-get install libsdl-image1.2
[11:31] <Tomcat_> lol
[11:32] <variant> ATAQ: apt-get install libsdl-image1.2 i mean
[11:32] <phillip> variant: yeah i just reinstalled it. i tried getting my audio driver straightened out. it gave me an error and then i couldnt log in anymore. it needed make and gcc... i didnt have make and didnt know i needed it. guess ill have shitty sound for a while
[11:32] <lilylazer> Hello, can anyone please help me with a grub problem? Im gettin Error 17..The deal is, linux is installed on /dev/sdb1, if i just use my two s-ata disks grub loads fine and i can boot. But when i connect my 4 other IDE hds, im getting error 17.. I have now booted with the live cd, that way i can edit the menu.lst, but i have no idea what may be wrong in it. THanks.
[11:32] <variant> phillip: annoying
[11:32] <phillip> lilylazer: maybe a corrupted mbr or boot sector
[11:33] <alecjw> pleeease can someone help me? i need to get amarok to sync my collection with a portable media device
[11:33] <TC`> !pdf
[11:33] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[11:33] <samuel> LjL, ive nvidia card that i think is causing problems when i install into a 64bit machine i have... id like to force it to use a vesa driver during the install
[11:33] <lilylazer> phillip: tried reinstalling about 5times, still gettings the same.. hmm
[11:33] <samuel> bimberi, thx
[11:33] <bimberi> samuel: yw
[11:33] <lilylazer> phillip: can it be something wrong with the menu.lst?
[11:34] <dts> how come all my windows open full sized with the new metacity? is there an option t turn that off?
[11:34] <passifalsi> wake on lan: are there any packages. It's not as simple as ping address on lan...
[11:34] <LjL> samuel: well, when booting the live cd, you can just choose the "safe graphics" option. then to make VESA stick, you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from a terminal, and select VESA as a driver.
[11:34] <LabThug> Anyone know how to install libc.so.6 on Edgy?
[11:34] <LjL> LabThug: you have it installed.
[11:34] <rawi> i edited my apache conf. but my directory still aren't good.. Can someone please help me? http://perfect-pc.xs4all.nl
[11:34] <LjL> LabThug: what are you trying to do?
[11:34] <LabThug> I have an app (ColdFusion MX) that still uses libc.so.6.  Upgrading to Edgy seems to have removed this file, how do i get it back?
[11:34] <Zyfo> When I've got autohide on a panel I need to hold the mouse over it for a while until it shows. How can I decrease the time needed to show the panel?
[11:35] <samuel> LjL, after i install the distro?
[11:35] <variant> LjL: funny thing is with that, the installer detectst the graphics chip more accuratly on some systems than the live cd hwdetection
[11:35] <beau> i need some help mounting a fat 32 hard drive, running live cd, says special device doesnt exist
[11:35] <kalikiana> Why did edgy alter my fstab?
[11:35] <LjL> samuel: yes (you can press ctrl+alt+f2 to get to a terminal)
[11:35] <passifalsi> what should I do to use wake on lan?
[11:35] <samuel> LjL, thanks
[11:36] <rawi> i edited my apache conf. but my directory still aren't good.. Can someone please help me? http://perfect-pc.xs4all.nl
[11:36] <LjL> LabThug: i have a file called /lib/libc.so.6 -- you should have it as well. try "ls -l /lib/libc.so.6"
[11:36] <beau> i need some help mounting a fat 32 hard drive, running live cd, says special device doesnt exist when i mount it
[11:37] <donfilipo> coz_ can you check this link if it works on your machine..... it does not by me: http://www.chooseandwatch.com/index.html
[11:37] <LjL> LabThug: what's the error that your Adobe program is giving up, precisely? (you can use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste)
[11:37] <LabThug> LjL: yeah, I just discovered it's there.  CF is too stupid to look in /lib.  I need to correct.  Do you still want the paste?
[11:37] <LjL> LabThug: yes, please.
[11:37] <cge> Does anyone know how to use wipe to wipe an entire hdd? wipe -kq /dev/sda, as mentioned in the man page, doesn't seem to work.
[11:38] <LjL> cge: how does it not work?
[11:38] <cge> LjL: It thinks that the files are 0 bytes.
[11:39] <LabThug> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29453/
[11:39] <utet3142> When i use
[11:39] <utet3142> Code:
[11:39] <utet3142> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:39] <utet3142> to install kubuntu after ubuntu, my startup style and login window become kubuntu style. When I login to KDE, I want the Kubuntu theme, but when I turn my linuxbox off and on and login I want to keep the ubuntu themes.
[11:39] <gsuveg> re
[11:39] <cge> LjL: Ah, ok. It isn't detecting the size correctly.
[11:40] <variant> utet3142: try apt-get install kde-desktop instead
[11:40] <cge> LjL: It works if I manually input the size
[11:40] <gsuveg> gsuveg@highway:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/acpid start
[11:40] <variant> utet3142: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <gsuveg> acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy
[11:40] <gsuveg> anybody have idea how can i resolve it ?
[11:40] <LjL> LabThug: actually, to me, that looks like your program uses ships with its *own* version of libc6, and it's other standar commands that it calls (ps, sleep) which then complain about it
[11:40] <variant> gsuveg: try restart instead of start
[11:41] <gsuveg> variant: same
[11:41] <we2by> !development
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about development - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <we2by> !compile
[11:41] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:41] <GaiaX11> where can i find a hardware compatibility list for ubuntu?
[11:41] <LabThug> LjL: yeah, but ps, sleep, etc. work fine when I invoke them from the command line
[11:41] <variant> gsuveg: odd, yo uhave any sound playing apps open?
[11:41] <gsuveg> variant: its depend on acpi ?
[11:41] <variant> LabThug: that would be becase the program it's self is not calling htem
[11:41] <gsuveg> skype ?
[11:41] <variant> gsuveg: sorry, i am tired.. thinkin alsa :P
[11:42] <gsuveg> variant: no. its acpi ;)
[11:42] <beau> i need some help mounting a fat 32 hard drive, running live cd, says special device doesnt exist
[11:42] <variant> gsuveg: sorry man
[11:42] <GaiaX11> Hi guys. where can i find a hardware compatibility list for ubuntu?
[11:42] <variant> gsuveg: hmm, what was that error?
[11:42] <gsuveg> variant: no prob.
[11:42] <LjL> LabThug: yeah, i think the script that calls the program sets the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable, to make stuff use its own version of libc6 rather than the system's. when you're in the shell, that variable's not set
[11:42] <gsuveg> acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy
[11:42] <variant> GaiaX11: anything except wireless and some other fringe hardware work fine :p
[11:42] <variant> gsuveg: but does it start?
[11:42] <mamzers555> hello, my firefox opens external links in new windows instead of in a new tab, how can i change it?
[11:42] <gsuveg> no
[11:42] <cliebow_> anyone else have trouble with the 18 kernel getting wireless interfacesright?
[11:43] <netdownload> in edgy in console is it normal that the vi if you go in insert mode isn't written insert ???
[11:43] <variant> gsuveg: if you manualy type acpid ?
[11:43] <Hooke> hi, I'm trying ubuntu edgy for i386 in a 64-bit computer. I like it very much so far, but one thing bugs me: I was playing a game (nexuiz) and the display froze, so I had to reboot. I'm not using proprietary drivers from ati (fglrx) but the one provided by ubuntu (xserver-xorg-video-ati) Is this normal,  should I change some settings? thanks
[11:43] <LjL> LabThug: care to pastebin your /etc/init.d/coldfusion script please?
[11:43] <daddius> hello all.. I just installed ubuntu 6.10 and i need to change the resolution.  I updated the xorg.conf but how can I get it to read the xorg.conf file?
[11:43] <cliebow_> vi is Weird
[11:43] <gsuveg> variant:
[11:43] <gsuveg> gsuveg@highway:~$ sudo cat /proc/acpi/event
[11:43] <gsuveg> cat: /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy
[11:43] <chillywilly> vi rules
[11:43] <variant> gsuveg: try /etc/init.d/acpid reload
[11:43] <gsuveg> same :(
[11:43] <GaiaX11> variant: I know, but I saw it another day in a ubuntu web page. I'd like to find aganin
[11:43] <variant> gsuveg: try /etc/init.d/acpid force-reload
[11:43] <variant> GaiaX11: sorry, i dont know the link
[11:43] <Keyseir> Anyone here have *any* experience with vmware?
[11:43] <BloodMoonRising> ok, actually I'm just having problems figuring out IRC with ubuntu, help please?
[11:44] <variant> GaiaX11: googlge it
[11:44] <DarkMageZ> mamzers555, edit > preferences. Tab > a new tab
[11:44] <LjL> daddius: you need to restart X. you can restart it (abruptly) by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace. note however that if you have made an error in the xorg.conf file, then X won't start again, and you'll have to solve it from the command line. hopefully you have a backup of your old xorg.conf
[11:44] <phillip> lilylazer: sorry for the delayed responce but i dont know. my computer was recently in 15 parts and i spent 3 days trying to fix it and finally do my homework. i had windows installed. if u have a spare or pirated windows xp lying around then press R or f10 (or was it f11) after the cd finishes to load and started asking you where to install and stuff... i basically pressed r and f10 like crazy and eventually got to the recov
[11:44] <phillip> ery console and then i did a fixmbr and fixboot and i finally got past my gay HP splash screen. so i said fuck it and install linux
[11:44] <gsuveg> variant: No /usr/sbin/acpid found running; none killed.
[11:44] <variant> Keyseir: yeah, it sucks. use qemu instead :)
[11:44] <LjL> !language | phillip
[11:44] <ubotu> phillip: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:44] <variant> gsuveg: damn
[11:44] <LabThug> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29456/  FYI, there isn't a LD_LIBRARY_PATH in there.
[11:44] <variant> gsuveg: you sure your sys doesnt use apm imnstead?
[11:44] <mamzers555> DarkMageZ; i have selected this, but firefox doesn't care
[11:44] <variant> gsuveg: new or old system?
[11:44] <nashnash> !info print
[11:44] <ubotu> Package print does not exist in any distro I know
[11:44] <Keyseir> variant: I was under the impression QEMU would be slower then vmware for my platform.
[11:44] <variant> gsuveg: what motherboard is it?
[11:44] <gsuveg> variant: centriono notebook
[11:45] <dashtu> does anyone know how to bind a keystroke to a shell script under beryl?
[11:45] <LjL> LabThug: uhm, see what type of file /usr/local/ColdFusionMX6.1/bin/coldfusion is (type "file /usr/local/ColdFusionMX6.1/bin/coldfusion") --- if it's a text file, as opposed to a binary file, paste it
[11:45] <variant> Keyseir: well, if you have the kqemu kernel module it should be admitedly only slightly slower
[11:45] <Falstiu1> Keyseir: qemu is slow, if you don't download the proprietary kernel modules (or atleast that is my 1 year old info)
[11:45] <daddius> LjL, This is strange because ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work
[11:45] <mamzers555> DarkMageZ; can you test the site if it works for you: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/80176
[11:45] <nashnash> i can only print one copy at a time in my printer, is someone knwos how to solve it, please write ;) , thx!
[11:45] <variant> gsuveg: hmm, does this happen on new install or what?
[11:45] <Keyseir> variant, I'll look into it.
[11:45] <mamzers555> DarkMageZ; and the link there opens the new window
[11:45] <gsuveg> variant: new install arounc beta or rc
[11:45] <lilylazer> phillip: hehe good choice :)
[11:45] <LjL> daddius: that's weird. but you can also restart by typing "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" from a console (*real* console, not inside X!)
[11:46] <daddius> LjL, I tried rebooting and yet i still have this big resolution..
[11:46] <mamzers555> DarkMageZ;  the third link
[11:46] <variant> gsuveg: have you updated to final release?
[11:46] <Keyseir> variant: Where can I find kqemu?
[11:46] <daddius> LjL,
[11:46] <variant> gsuveg: failing that try dapper
[11:46] <daddius> thanks
[11:46] <variant> Keyseir: on the qemu homepage
[11:46] <LjL> daddius: well then it's not a matter of making X read the file. the file's simply not saying the right things
[11:46] <daddius> LjL, I will try that
[11:46] <LjL> daddius: try pastebinning your xorg.conf
[11:46] <BloodMoonRising> Having trouble with IRC on the Ubuntu OS. Slightly complicated. Help please.
[11:46] <firebird619> In Ubuntu, how do I set a different background for each workspace? Right now they are all the same and I want to change them.
[11:46] <LabThug> LjL: you're right it is text:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29457/
[11:46] <gsuveg> variant: up upgraded from dapper :)
[11:46] <LjL> BloodMoonRising: what's the specific question?
[11:46] <cge> BloodMoonRising: What is your question?
[11:46] <gsuveg> variant: fresh install
[11:47] <variant> Keyseir: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/kqemu-doc.html
[11:47] <DarkMageZ> mamzers555, um, there are lots of links, what name does it have?
[11:47] <mamzers555> DarkMageZ; blackstone, it is in the text
[11:47] <vgoltser> is there a graphing calculator for linux? (kinda like maple maybe even something simpler than can draw graphs of functions)
[11:47] <LabThug> I'm guessing I should change "LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$CF_DIR/lib:$CF_DIR/lib/_ilnx21/bin"" to "LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$CF_DIR/lib:$CF_DIR/lib/_ilnx21/bin:/lib" yes/no?
[11:47] <BloodMoonRising> I have a registered nick, but it doesn't recognise it, always erases the last letter, and when I log into the rooms I used to log into no one can see. I'm sitting across from someone who's also in the room, so...yeah.
[11:47] <variant> Keyseir: i use it to run win server 2004 (don't hate me, i have no choice, its a work thing :P)
[11:47] <LjL> LabThug: ouch, that does weird things -- not just LD_LIBRARY_PATH, also LD_ASSUME_KERNEL, which i didn't even know about
[11:48] <variant> vgoltser: xcalc or gcalc
[11:48] <DarkMageZ> mamzers555, you're right, it's borked =D
[11:48] <axel> !xgl
[11:48] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:48] <cge> vgoltser: It all depends on how complex of a graphing calculator you want.
[11:48] <cge> BloodMoonRising: What client are you using
[11:48] <LjL> LabThug: no, i don't think so, because the commands will still just try the program-supplied version, and fail... though i'm not 100% sure, you could try it
[11:48] <BloodMoonRising> Client?
[11:48] <variant> vgoltser: xcalc or gcalctool i mean
[11:48] <mamzers555> DarkMageZ; do you know how to solve?
[11:48] <LabThug> LjL: yeah, but it only does ASSUME_KERNEL for SuSE :-)
[11:48] <LjL> LabThug: the other thing is putting /lib at the *beginning* of that string, which will probably make those commands work -- but then i guess coldfusion itself will fail ;)
[11:48] <DarkMageZ> mamzers555, nope, tho feel free to file a bug
[11:49] <LjL> LabThug: ah, that's true
[11:49] <cge> vgoltser: There are vast numbers of graphing calculator like programs. Try running "apt-cache search graphing" or "apt-cache search algebra".
[11:49] <Chippy> hey, every time I boot up I need to do a modprobe in order to get something working - how would I do this permanently?
[11:49] <valberg> can someone help me remove samba
[11:49] <valberg> it fucks my apt-get up
[11:49] <valberg> :S
[11:49] <LjL> !language | valberg
[11:49] <ubotu> valberg: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:49] <Intangir> valberg: hows that?
[11:49] <LabThug> hmm, no luck on putting it either in front or end
[11:49] <cliebow_> valberg:language
[11:49] <gsuveg> variant: i dont a acpi guru
[11:49] <rcmiv> well, I got my consoles back by booting nosplash, but the resolution is whacky
[11:49] <LabThug> Will try tomorrow though.  Have a guch to catch now
[11:49] <cge> vgoltser: There is qalculator, which is rather good but rudimentary, there is maxima, which is ancient but is on the level of Mathematica, and there are others like R.
[11:49] <LabThug> thanks for the help LjL
[11:50] <cge> BloodMoonRising: What program do you use to connect to IRC?
[11:50] <rcmiv> anyone have similar problems with consoles (ctrl+alt+f2, etc)
[11:50] <variant> gsuveg: acpi is abitch thanks to most laptop bios manufacturers being scumbags
[11:50] <Intangir> cge: i use irssi
[11:50] <BloodMoonRising> Oh. GAIM?
[11:50] <cge> BloodMoonRising: Ah.
[11:50] <gsuveg> variant: ok. but suspend works good
[11:50] <daddius> hey
[11:50] <daddius> well got it but see i have a wide screen
[11:51] <variant> cge: that really doesn't return much in the way of calculators
[11:51] <vgoltser> I don't think gcalc and xcalc can graph functions ...
[11:51] <LjL> rcmiv: i didn't found out anything about your problem by means of googling... only thing i can suggest, if you need the VTs, is to disable usplash :\ hopefully someone else has better advice
[11:51] <cge> BloodMoonRising: Try installing xchat-gnome. GAIM isn't really designed for IRC.
[11:51] <BloodMoonRising> ok thanks
[11:51] <vgoltser> cge, if it wasn't for an itch scratcher, gaim would not have dcc
[11:51] <variant> gsuveg: if suspend works then so  does acpi
[11:52] <cge> vgoltser: So you just want graphs?
[11:52] <cge> vgoltser: Of functions, or of data?
[11:52] <vgoltser> of functions
[11:52] <vgoltser> like ln(x)/x ...
[11:52] <vgoltser> as x->0 :)
[11:53] <cge> vgoltser: Try installing maxima and xmaxima.
[11:53] <rawrness> how hard is it to get vmware runing?
[11:53] <vgoltser> is maple worth buying? (since they have a Linux version)
[11:53] <vgoltser> rawr, no ...
[11:53] <cge> vgoltser: I use Mathematica. I have Maple too, but I haven't used it much.
[11:53] <Chippy> hey, every time I boot up I need to do a modprobe in order to get something working - how would I do this permanently?
[11:54] <cge> vgoltser: They both have stable and solid Linux versions.
[11:54] <timalot> Chippy: /etc/modules i think
[11:54] <Chippy> timalot: I'll take a boo, thanks
[11:54] <beau> what is the default password to access shared files?
[11:54] <vgoltser> cge, what would you recommend? my colleges has both and since I work here, I can probably get it on this system (work system)
[11:54] <rob2929> hi, i removed my ubuntu linux partition from my harddrive because i got a new harddrive to deticate it coming soon,  so all that was left was my NTFS windows partition which is set to active(already was), and whenver I boot i get "GRUB" then the computer repeats it and then i have to shut it off, whats wrong, or what needs to be changed
[11:55] <ephesius> what is wrong with the new anjuta in edgy it doesnt work right or i just dont know how to set it up right
[11:55] <romulo> hi, anyone knows when vesa-common-dev comes to edgy?
[11:55] <vgoltser> eph, it is alpha alpha ...
[11:55] <romulo> looks like canonical/ubuntu dev forgot about the gl support
[11:55] <TGPO> rob2929 grub sits in more than one spot
[11:55] <romulo> T_T
[11:55] <variant> rob2929: run the windows rescue system
[11:55] <variant> rob2929: from the windows cd
[11:55] <cge> vgoltser: It depends on what you are doing. I think that Mathematica tends to be better when it comes to symbolic things, and Maple tends to be better with data.
[11:55] <TGPO> rob2929 all the info it needed was on the part you removed
[11:55] <DarkMageZ> mamzers555, i don't know what has changed, but it's behaving now...
[11:56] <TGPO> rob2929 XP does have an MBR recovery utility though
[11:56] <mamzers555> DarkMageZ; what do you mean, i don't understand
[11:56] <variant> I remember somone complaining in a very strong way that "linux is crap because it doesn't have an uninstaller" lmfao
[11:56] <Yoglets> Anybody know how i can install edgy without installing grub? The install process expects a device name for grub but doesn't seem to allow you to say that you don't want it at all.
[11:57] <DarkMageZ> mamzers555, when i click on that link, it's now opening up in a new tab like it's supposed to. i was able to replicate it before. that's trippy
[11:57] <cge> Yoglets: Well, you could install it with debootstrap, but somehow I don't think that is the answer you want. The alternate installer allows you to do that as well, if I recall.
[11:57] <bimberi> Yoglets: the alternate cd might allow you to avoid installing grub (i'm not certain though)
[11:57] <cge> Yoglets: Essentially, if you want to do anything out of the ordinary, you need to use the alternate installer.
[11:57] <mamzers555> DarkMageZ; really curios
[11:57] <Yoglets> ok gotcha, will give it a shot thanks
[11:58] <ephesius> does anyone know how to get the build and run functions working in anjuta2 the version in edgy
[11:58] <valberg> How can I remove Samba ??? I'm really having troubles with it
[11:58] <Yoglets> was wondering if i could put /dev/null in the box for which device to install grub on :)
[11:58] <leofender> fi
[11:58] <valberg> it interfears with samba-common or something
[11:58] <leofender> hi*
[11:58] <LjL> bimberi, Yoglets: the Alternate CD allows skipping any phase of the installation process, so i'd guess so. at the very least, it'll allow installing Grub in the partition, rather than in the MBR (which i think is the only option in the Desktop CD)
[11:58] <cge> valberg: Apt-get remove doesnt work?
[11:58] <mamzers555> DarkMageZ; for me it don't work
[11:58] <bimberi> LjL: cheers
[11:58] <valberg> cge: nope
[11:58] <mamzers555> :-(
[11:58] <leofender> cheers for all
[11:58] <cge> valberg: What happens?
[11:58] <vgoltser> I HATE CALCULUS!!!!!!!
[11:59] <cge> vgoltser: Calculus is wonderful.
[11:59] <DarkMageZ> mamzers555, i was playing around with some html, trying to figure out exactly what caused it. but then when i tried it again on the site, it behavied
[11:59] <Chippy> vgoltser: I like it so far :)
[11:59] <leofender> but you have got to calcul
[11:59] <cge> vgoltser: If you are mostly dealing with Calculus, maxima or Mathematica is probably best.
[11:59] <vgoltser> chippy, what is the limit of ln(x)/(x-1) as x->1
[12:00] <vgoltser> L'Hospital's rule ... and that's easy
[12:00] <cge> vgoltser: Differentiate the top and bottom.
[12:00] <valberg> cge: the underprocess pre-removal script returns a 102
[12:00] <leofender> i dont know
[12:00] <LjL> vgoltser: and i hate caps ;P
[12:00] <mamzers555> DarkMageZ; its now also working for me. what i did: i checked the switch to open in new window, than back to open in tab and now it works
[12:00] <mamzers555> DarkMageZ; this is strange
[12:00] <valberg> cge: something about a dangling symlink
[12:00] <vgoltser> how about derivative of sin^-1 (tan^-1 (x))
[12:00] <AliTaimur> hello, i broke my X trying to install beryl, now i am getting a blank screen at login, is there anyway i can kill X and get a shell so that i can restore my backed up xorg.conf?
[12:00] <DarkMageZ> mamzers555, oh, i did that as well...
[12:00] <cge> valberg: Blank the prerm script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/PACKAGE-NAME.prerm
[12:00] <vgoltser> ali, ctrl + alt+ f1
[12:01] <valberg> cge: just remove or delete contents ?
[12:01] <vgoltser> then sudo /etc/init./gdm stop