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lakinanyone have tips for tracking down the hard-lockups on my laptop?  They started after I installed edgy.  The only reliable way I can reproduce them is to copy some large file via SFTP w/ Nautilus over my LAN ...02:18
dsasif you have a hard lock up of everything, then you should probably blame the kernel I think...maybe dmesg or kern.log has some useful output?02:22
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lakindsas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29478/ <- that's syslog, dmesg, and messages in /var/log/  ... none give me any useful information02:33
dsaslakin: I don't know what really counts as useful information or not, the log does seem to mention a few network related things though...02:35
lakindsas, I'm leaning towards networking, but how do I test it?  remove the network drivers and wait? .... that's not going to happen cause it renders the laptop useless during that portion of time. :)02:38
lakinAt this point, I'm leaning towards reverting to dapper ... or compiling a new updated kernel02:38
dsaslakin: I don't know...though if the only way you can reproduce the bug is to copy large files over SFTP disabling networking probably will not help find it....02:39
dsaslakin: Maybe if you post the bug with what detail you do have, someone more knowledgeable will ask for some more specific details.02:40
dsaslakin: If you have plenty of time and know about compiling your own kernel and using git you can try to track down when the bug appeared.02:41
lakinI've compiled kernels in the past, but only for my desktop.  And I've never done it for this laptop, so I doubt I'd get all the options right.  Posting a bug report might help...02:44
lakindsas, I'll try over wireless for a bit, see if I can get the same lockup.  If not, then I'll blame the wired module.02:46
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=== Nafallo ska sova, gnatt
Nafallognight04:30
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Quashcan anyone maybe help a little with a bug that is getting a lot of support from users who are experiencing it but no acknowledgement from Ubuntu folks, even though it is quite severe?05:21
Quasha number of us are trying to hash the bug out but are having difficulty, but willing to try whatever Ubuntu bug folks want us to in trying to nail it down.05:21
ajmitchwhat is the bug number?05:22
Quashhttps://launchpad.net/bugs/6748705:22
UbugtuMalone bug 67487 in Ubuntu "Install 6:10 Failure: Black screen at Live Desktop Stage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 05:22
ajmitchbah05:23
ajmitchnot assigned to any package, etc05:23
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Quashback.  Firefox 2 crashed on me... again.05:25
crimsunyou can work around the installation/black screen issue by switching to a virt term, editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use vesa, and restarting gdm05:26
crimsunI did that yesterday on a Dell05:26
QuashI just mentioned this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/6748705:26
UbugtuMalone bug 67487 in Ubuntu "Install 6:10 Failure: Black screen at Live Desktop Stage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 05:26
crimsun...and that's what I just addressed.05:26
QuashDo you mean doing ctrl-alt-F1 through F6 at the black screen to get to console?05:27
crimsunyes05:27
Jozo-sounds usplash bug..05:27
crimsunyou should at least get a "could not start X server" error before05:27
Quashno error.  usplash finishes, blank screen with white cursor in top left for a moment (normal, I believe) and then screen goes blank.05:28
Jozo-bug 63558, bug 68643, bug 68683 and so on... (maybe all of them are dupes)05:28
UbugtuMalone bug 63558 in usplash "Latest usplash leaves my consoles corrupted" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6355805:28
UbugtuMalone bug 68643 in usplash "Virtual Consoles don't work after update to Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6864305:28
UbugtuMalone bug 68683 in usplash "Edgy doesn't let me switch to console" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6868305:28
crimsunif you're not seeing at least the X server error message, you're not experiencing the same error I'm referring to05:29
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Quash yes, people aren't typically getting error messages with this bug and ctrl-alt-F1 doesn't work.05:32
Quashas a start, I'd like to figure out a workaround to see if that resolves the issue for people.  That will at least give us a clue as to next steps.05:35
QuashBut, Ubuntu Devs haven't even acknowledged the bug yet, despite a lot of users noting they are experiencing the same thing.05:35
QuashEven Googling now will bring up various forum posts, blog postings, etc about this bug.05:35
crimsunplease be patient. Most of the devs are extremely busy preparing for the dev summit next week.05:35
QuashI appreciate this.05:36
crimsun(and the remainder of us volunteers are just as strapped for resources)05:36
crimsunin any case, you'll see a follow-up on that bug in due time05:37
QuashEdgy was just released, though, and many users are experiencing a severe bug which prevents them from loading Ubuntu.  I recognize volunteers can't and shouldn't have to cover all the bases.  It's just a pretty ugly bug.05:37
crimsundoes removing splash from the kernel command line mitigate it for that boot?05:38
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Quashwhat would that line look like if I did that?  I haven't played with boot parameters much.  I can try it.05:40
QuashThis seems to be something that happens after usplash, though, as the Live Desktop is about to kick in.05:41
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BHSPitLappyI will PAT someone to fix the laptop LCD bug06:35
BHSPitLappygrr06:35
BHSPitLappyor pay06:35
BHSPitLappyif patting floats your boat, then that's cool06:35
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BHSPitLappybut really, it's not too cool that ubuntu overheats my laptop if I leave it alone for a few hours06:45
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dholbachgood morning07:39
robitailleHi dholbach07:39
dholbachhey robitaille07:39
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secretlondonmorning07:41
dholbachhey secretlondon07:44
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dholbachhey Hobbsee!07:44
secretlondonhi hobbsee07:45
ajmitchhi secretlondon, robitaille07:45
secretlondonhi ajmitch!07:45
Hobbseehi dholbach!07:45
Hobbseehi secretlondon07:46
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secretlondonthe submitter of a lisp bug has got back to me re: missing packages. To get a sync from debian who do I allocate the bug to?08:03
secretlondonis debian contrib = multiverse?08:05
Hobbseesecretlondon: for edgy?  you cant.08:05
secretlondonno for feisty08:05
Mezubuntu-archive = the sync masters08:06
secretlondonMez: thanks08:06
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BHSPitLappydoes anyone know anything about the laptop lcd power bug08:07
Hobbseedo packages from debian contrib get automatically synced across?08:07
HobbseeBHSPitLappy: bug #?08:07
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BHSPitLappyhold on08:07
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secretlondoncontrib is free packages that depend on non-free ones apparently08:11
BHSPitLappyHobbsee, ok, to name a few... #19410, #30802, #41994, #42274 ...08:13
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Hobbseesecretlondon: ahh.  multiverse then, i guesss08:13
Hobbseebug 19410 bug 30802 bug 41994 bug 4227408:14
UbugtuMalone bug 19410 in acpi-support "Laptop backlight does not turn off" [Medium,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/1941008:14
UbugtuMalone bug 30802 in gnome-power-manager "Closing the lid does not switch off backlight (Dell Latitude X1)" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3080208:14
UbugtuMalone bug 41994 in gnome-power-manager "closed Laptop Lid to reliably keep Backlight off" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4199408:14
UbugtuMalone bug 42274 in xserver-xgl "Screen active when closing lid" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4227408:14
BHSPitLappythey all seem to address my issue; I close the lid, the screen power off, BUT seconds later it turns back on (for the screensaver? that's just stupid behavior)08:14
BHSPitLappyas a result, I can't leave it closed when I leave.  When I return, the laptop is always burning hot.08:15
BHSPitLappythe other day, it had actually auto-shutdown from overheating08:15
Hobbseeouch08:16
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secretlondonthe laptop team are probably the people to ask08:16
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secretlondonwe still have some of the unmet dependencies bugs open and unfixed09:05
Hobbseesecretlondon: indeed.  however, we cant upload to edgy updates, yet, i believe.  we can fix them in feisty though09:07
secretlondonok. it would be nice to fix cinepaint as we've had a few dupes09:08
Hobbseewhat's the fix?09:09
secretlondon1 sec09:09
secretlondonbug #6545709:10
UbugtuMalone bug 65457 in cinepaint "[UNMETDEPS]  cinepaint has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6545709:10
secretlondonsync of libgutenprintui1-1 for all except amd64 which needs libopenexr2c209:11
secretlondonI've not checked to see if we can rebuild with another gutenprint lib09:11
secretlondonwe have libgutenprintui2-1 (5.0.0-2ubuntu2) in egy repos09:15
secretlondonit hasn't built either09:18
Hobbseeouch09:19
secretlondonit needs some care and attention..09:19
secretlondoni think we have updated libs for the three deps - 1 build dep and 2 others09:20
Hobbseethat'd definetly need a SRU, i expect09:20
secretlondonwhats an sru?09:20
Hobbseeif we were to fix it for edgy09:20
Hobbseeajmitch: tell secretlondon about sru's and such things please :009:20
ajmitchuh oh09:20
ajmitchwiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU09:20
ajmitchapproval for something to get into edgy-updates09:20
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Hobbseesecretlondon: i'ts all newish :P09:21
Hobbseeso everyon ehas to09:21
secretlondonwell it's def a regression as it worked in dapper09:22
Hobbseeindeed09:22
secretlondonwell I guess first step someone needs to see if it will build with a updated lib09:23
ajmitchsecretlondon: note that that's a proposal, extra comments are at the bottom09:23
ajmitchthe SRU plan for universe was only drawn up a few hours ago & is being discussed now09:23
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secretlondonwell regardless even for feisty we need to see if it will build with newer libs09:24
Hobbseei'd imagine the cinerama stuff is in universe09:24
secretlondoncinepaint is in universe09:25
Hobbseesecretlondon: a whole lot of stuff will be synced for feisty anyway - lots of new libs, etc.  probably better to get the merging, etc done first, then work on hte unmet deps09:25
secretlondonHobbsee: so don't try and compile the thing?09:26
Hobbseesecretlondon: well, you can, but masses of packages are about to change anyway.  so if you fix it first, then everything changes, it may not work  anyway :P09:27
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Hobbseenope, i'ts not there09:27
Hobbseebut various other libs will change09:27
secretlondonI'd love to get it back in edgy if I can09:28
Hobbseethen you need the SRU hackery :)09:28
Hobbseewhich is a black art to me :)09:28
secretlondonindeed09:28
secretlondonI think it needs some lurving anyway - so I'll have a go09:29
secretlondonnotes that the amd64 package failed to build in dapper even :(09:30
secretlondonand no-one seemed to have noticed09:30
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Hobbseequite likely.  there are many packages :P09:34
secretlondonthere's a few packages like this that need care and attention09:34
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Hobbseesecretlondon: please take care of them :)09:36
secretlondonHobbsee: I'll try and love all the neglected bits of universe - although i'll need a motu sponsor for some bits ;)09:37
Hobbseesecretlondon: of course. there are MOTU's around - if i'm around, you can poke me, and i can either do it myself, or poke another MOTU.  or poke Fujitsu09:38
HobbseeFujitsu: likes uploading things09:38
secretlondonHobbsee: It'll be a day or two I suspect. And I won't be able to test the amd6409:38
ajmitchsecretlondon: that's an awful lot to care for09:38
ajmitchyou'll probably end up loving about 15000 packages09:39
secretlondonajmitch: I know - I have clear favourites, I just tell them all I'll love them equally09:39
Hobbseesecretlondon: yeah, of course - we cant upload to feisty yet anyway.09:39
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HobbseeFujitsu: get to it!09:40
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FujitsuI've uploaded a few things!09:41
Hobbseeso have i.09:41
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HobbseeFujitsu: have you beat my long list of packages yet?09:41
Hobbseeshe doesnt have one.09:41
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FujitsuNo, that's a really long list.09:41
Hobbseehahaa09:41
Hobbseeyes09:41
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FujitsuYou evil evil prolific uploader.09:41
Hobbseei got most of those uploaded before MOTU09:41
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Hobbseehah09:43
Hobbseeno you dont09:43
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Fujitsu*young09:44
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berzerking j ai des petit soucis de perf sur ma carte graphique qui est une ati radeon 9700 pro mobility et je voulais savoire si y avait du monde a qui ca fesait pareille09:48
berzerkinget salut d abord  ... dsol ... ca fait 2 semaine que je suis dessus et 5 rinstall.09:49
berzerkinglol09:49
seb128berzerking: quel genre de soucis de perf?09:49
berzerkingseb128: salut ... bh par example des que je joue a un jeu qui demande un minimum de ressource 3D bh ca se met a soter toute les 1 min ...09:50
berzerkingpas terrible quoi09:50
berzerkingpourtant j ai mis les drivers pro de ati09:50
seb128y a des jeux 3D sous linux? ;)09:51
berzerkingles libre aussi09:51
berzerkinget ca donne pareille09:51
berzerkingmdr09:51
seb128avec le driver fglrx la 3D devrait marcher09:51
berzerkingmais elle marche09:52
berzerkingmais le probleme c est que ca pedale dans la semoule a un moment09:52
berzerkingglxgears me donne ca ... : 10264 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2043.875 FPS09:52
berzerkinget fgl_glxgears me donne ca ... : Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer     1498 frames in 5.0 seconds = 299.600 FPS09:53
seb128t'as essay quoi comme jeu qui demander de la 3D?09:54
berzerkingglest09:54
seb128glxinfo ca dit quoi pour "direct rendering"?09:55
berzerkingou encore Nexuiz09:55
berzerkingle direct rending me dis yes09:55
seb128ben c'est ptetre simplement les drivers ATI qui sont lent alors09:56
seb128les jeux sous linux c'est pas a de toute faon09:56
berzerkingj ai beryl qui tourne donc je fait un e export DISPLAY=:0 mais quand je demarre sur gnome "classic" c est les memes problemes09:56
Mez!ubuntu-fr09:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-fr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:57
Mez!fr09:57
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:57
berzerkingoais c est sure mais quand meme .... nexuiz est reputer pour tourner sur des petite config ...09:57
secretlondonMez: This isn't a support channel either..09:57
seb128ben en faisant tourner des trucs comme beryl tu cherches les ennuis09:57
Mezsecretlondon, "pour de l'aide et de la discussion" help and discussion ;)09:58
berzerkingoais c est sure... mais quand je fait les test je passe direct sous gnome ...09:58
seb128Mez: what is wrong about using #ubuntu-bugs?09:58
berzerkingje tente pas le kernel panic09:58
Mezseb128, tbh - I didnt realise it was -bugs ;) i'm just trying to cover my back here09:59
seb128:)09:59
Seveassfllaw, pong09:59
Mezexcuses si je causais n'importe quelle offense09:59
seb128berzerking: c'est pas vraiment un bug et je pense pas que grand monde ici sache comment dbugger de l'opengl lent09:59
seb128Mez: pas de problme ;)10:00
berzerkingoais c est sure10:00
MezCela me manque de parler en franais10:02
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dholbachheya seb12810:02
seb128morning dholbach10:02
dholbachdes jeux 3d sous linux! YAY :)10:03
seb128;)10:04
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berzerkinga tien ... une erreur qu j avais pas encore vu ... :fglX11FreeBuffer: firegl_FreeBuffer() failed! ubuntu10:05
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aizattodoes someone have edgy installed and use evolution, i want to confirm an odd bug10:18
Mezwhats the bug (I have evo installed)10:19
aizattotry copying text to a new mail in evo10:19
aizattocopying text from openoffice10:19
aizattoon my machine it seems to crash openoffice10:20
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aizattolol :P10:21
Mezaizatto, indeed, it does crash OOo10:21
aizattothx :) i'll report it10:22
aizattosorry i wasted 3 years of your life waiting for it to open10:22
ajmitchI believe that may have been reported already - check the current open bugs against OOo10:22
aizattois it directly oo related or evo?10:23
ajmitchOO10:24
ajmitchbug 6243210:24
UbugtuMalone bug 62432 in openoffice.org "Paste from open office to firefox 2.0 causes crash in open office" [Unknown,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6243210:24
aizattohmmm10:25
ajmitchhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/6839610:26
UbugtuMalone bug 68396 in openoffice.org "openoffice.org for edgy-updates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 10:26
aizattofast..10:26
aizattonew to this.. :P10:27
aizattothx though :)10:28
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secretlondonwhen you download a source package and it automatically adds the patch - is it correct that it doesn't make a debian directory?11:50
Hobbseesorry?11:51
pepsimanhow can it build without a debian directory?11:51
Hobbseehte original tarball doesnt contain the debian directory11:51
secretlondonHobbsee: this is the first time I have done any of this11:51
Hobbseesecretlondon: you can have a look at what's in hte .diff.gz - contains the debian changes11:51
Hobbseesecretlondon: the stuff in the .orig.tar.gz is the sutff from upstream - so from gnome, or kde, or whatever11:52
secretlondonHobbsee: When I downloaded it I thought it said it applied the contents of .diff.gz11:52
Hobbseesecretlondon: when you use apt-get source, it automatically grabs the three files, and unpacks them for you11:52
Hobbseeit does - it's apt-get source helping you out11:52
secretlondonHobbsee: but the unpackaged directory doesn't have a debian directory11:52
Hobbseeif you download the sourc,e you have to do that bit yourself (dpkg-source -x foo.dsc)11:52
secretlondonso where has it put it!11:53
Hobbseesecretlondon: which is this for?11:53
secretlondonthis is me jumping in at the deep end and poking cinepaint11:53
=== Hobbsee looks
Hobbseeyou're in the cinepaint source dir?11:53
Hobbseeie, it creates a dir called cinepaint-versionnumber, and in that is hte debian dir?11:54
secretlondonit makes the dir but without a debian directory11:54
=== Hobbsee waits...
Hobbsee!info cinerama edgy11:55
ubotuPackage cinerama does not exist in edgy11:55
secretlondon!info cinepaint edgy11:55
ubotucinepaint: motion picture image painting and retouching tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.20-1-2 (edgy), package size 1125 kB, installed size 3000 kB11:55
Hobbseeahhhh11:55
Hobbseesecretlondon: there's a newer version in debian - that will need to be synced across, assuming it all works11:56
secretlondonHobbsee: and a even newer one upstream11:56
Hobbseesecretlondon: it's there.  /home/sarah/Desktop/cinepaint-0.20-1/debian11:56
Hobbseethey certainly wont take a new upstream into edgy updates11:57
=== secretlondon wonders why she didn't get a /debian directory
secretlondonHobbsee: of course11:57
Hobbseei'd take a guess at pebkac, maybe11:57
secretlondonwhat's pebkac?11:57
Hobbseeproblem exists between keyboard and chair11:58
Hobbseetype pwd?11:59
secretlondonI know it's my problem - you don't have to rude..11:59
secretlondonthough how I can make a mistake with apt-get source who knows..12:00
pepsiman$ type pwd12:00
pepsimanpwd is a shell builtin12:00
secretlondonand no I'm not giving you my password12:00
Hobbseewasnt meaning to be12:00
Hobbseepwd = current working directory.  you might be thinking of passwd?12:00
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Hobbseesecretlondon: i'm certainly not asking for your password, trust me.  i have no use for it :P12:01
secretlondonHobbsee: good ;) I don't allow remote logins anyway :P12:01
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Hobbseeit's okay12:02
secretlondonsorry12:02
Hobbseethe reason i asked for the output of pwd was to check that you're in the right directory, seeing as you havent done this before :)12:02
Hobbseeand it has to be something simple12:02
Hobbseethe diff looks fairly sane - i think they'll take that12:03
secretlondondoing it with dpkg-source -x made me a debian dir :)12:06
Hobbseeyay :)12:06
secretlondonphew!12:06
Hobbseeso who knows what the other thing was12:06
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Hobbseesecretlondon: see http://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/cinepaint.  i think they'll take those changes12:06
Hobbsee:)12:06
secretlondonHobbsee: I think one of the changes fixes the amd64 not building bug12:07
secretlondonbut not our gutenprint one12:07
Hobbseeif you want to see what the changes were, grab the .dsc and the .diff.gz from the bottom of that page, dpkg-source -x the new .dsc, then run debdiff cine*.dsc > debdiff.  and then open debdiff in your favorite text editor12:08
Hobbsee31% [2 cinepaint 2389527/7549kB 31%]                     6773B/s 12m44s12:08
Hobbseecome on...12:08
secretlondonlibopenexr2c2a is the updated version of the lib the amd64 needs12:08
Hobbseeyep12:08
Hobbseewhich is fixed by magic12:09
Hobbseewell, which is fixed by a rebuild, due to magic :)12:09
secretlondon;)12:09
=== Hobbsee will try to build this on amd64, once it actually downloads.
Hobbseesecretlondon: i dont know of anything that would paste your password in clear text, unless you specifically typed it12:15
Hobbseeso i think you're pretty safe :P12:15
secretlondonagreed12:15
Hobbseei'm sure they fixed the "password in cleartext" bug in...breezy...i think12:15
=== secretlondon gets stressed out over crap
Hobbseeright.  now it's building.12:16
Hobbseeno, now it's finding deps12:17
Hobbseehurry up, you silly thing!12:17
Hobbseeah12:17
secretlondonmine is complaining at debuild -S can't find debhelper.mk12:19
Hobbseeinstall cdbs12:19
Hobbseeyep, this will need a merge12:19
=== Hobbsee rebuilds it, with the correct dep
=== Hobbsee taps her fingers and waits :P
Hobbseesecretlondon: okay, that fixed the deps12:21
secretlondonHobbsee: cool12:22
Hobbseecinepaint12:23
HobbseeReverse Depends:12:23
Hobbsee  exrtools12:23
Hobbsee  cinepaint-data12:23
Hobbseeoh darn it...12:23
=== Hobbsee looks what happened to exrtools. theoretically, that should have failed to build too
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Hobbseeoh, that built.12:25
=== secretlondon should have started with hello really..
Hobbseehehe12:26
Hobbseeit's *still* building12:26
Hobbseedholbach: ping?12:26
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Hobbseesecretlondon: what's the bug number for this?12:27
secretlondon6545712:27
Hobbseeinteresting.  it built on i386 in dapper12:28
Hobbseebug 6545712:29
UbugtuMalone bug 65457 in cinepaint "[UNMETDEPS]  cinepaint has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6545712:29
=== Hobbsee marks the amd64 one as a dupe of that, as they'll all be fixed at once
Hobbseesecretlondon: it's done.  testing for installability12:31
secretlondonHobbsee: cool12:31
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Hobbseesecretlondon: excellent :)12:33
xerxas_seb128, oops, sorry for duplicates12:33
seb128xerxas_: which ones?12:33
xerxas_it's not because I'm doing a lot bug triaging and I'm a "power user" that I should not check if bug have already been reported :)12:34
xerxas_the evolution-alarm-notify  one12:34
xerxas_I'm wasting you're time with stupid stuff :)12:34
Hobbseesecretlondon: this is warped12:37
secretlondonHobbsee: whats up?12:37
Hobbseeoh who did *that*12:38
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Hobbseesecretlondon: the ubuntu version number is *not* supposed to be like that :P12:38
irvinbug 4396112:38
UbugtuMalone bug 43961 in linux "Power down after shutdown does not work..." [Unknown,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4396112:38
Hobbseesecretlondon: oh no...this is *really* messed up :P12:40
=== Hobbsee loosk closer
HobbseeMalone #3472812:46
UbugtuMalone bug 34728 in cinepaint "project homepage" [Low,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3472812:46
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secretlondonthat should be a 1ubuntu1 not a 1-2?12:48
Hobbseesecretlondon: you got it :)12:49
zulHobbsee, wth?12:49
Hobbseezul: your fix to cinepaint - you've done the version wrong12:49
zulah ok i guess i deserved that then12:50
Hobbseehehe12:53
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Hobbseesecretlondon: GOT IT!  darned thing.01:15
secretlondonHobbsee: YAY!01:17
Hobbseesecretlondon: is www.buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/ up for you?01:24
secretlondonHobbsee: yes01:25
Hobbseesecretlondon: right, so cinepaint.debdiff is accessible?01:25
Hobbseedholbach: ping?01:25
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secretlondonyes01:26
Hobbseecool01:26
Hobbseesecretlondon: it's not here, but if i copy it to a machine in the US, then copy from the US machine to the webserver (which is also in the US), it'll work.  go figure!01:26
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secretlondonHobbsee: did the libgutenprint fix the amd64 dep too?01:28
Hobbseesecretlondon: debian did01:29
Hobbseewell, fixed the ftbfs on amd6401:29
secretlondonHobbsee: oh cool01:29
Hobbseesecretlondon: that debdiff is the changes made from the original ubuntu package - most are from debian, there01:30
secretlondonHobbsee: oh cool - didn't realise you'd synced from debian01:31
Hobbseesecretlondon: if they have the fixes, and the fixes are reasonable, then that sounds pretty good to me01:32
secretlondonagreed01:32
Hobbseesecretlondon: i synced it, then added my changes on top of that, and added the old ubuntu changes back in01:32
Hobbseeusing MOM is so much easier.01:33
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dholbachHobbsee: pong02:15
Hobbseedholbach: yay :)02:15
Hobbseedholbach: cinepaint FTBFS in edgy - do i need a full SRU for that, or can you just ack it while they figure out what the process is?02:15
Hobbseethe diff is eyeballable (taken from debian, pretty much)02:15
Hobbseedholbach: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/cinepaint.debdiff02:16
dholbachI can't just ACK it, sorry. I think it'd be wrong to ask for comments on the process and keep others on hold and then just ACK another one :/02:16
Hobbseedholbach: bleh.  what do you want to do with it then?02:16
dholbachI agree that it's eyeballable02:16
Hobbseedholbach: and for FTBFS only fixes - do you really think they need 5 acks or to wait 7 days?02:17
Hobbseedholbach: it's not like regressions are going to be found for building/installing02:17
dholbachCould you raise the topic on the list?02:17
Hobbseedholbach: sure i could, but i hate mailing lists :P02:17
Hobbseedholbach: you could :D02:17
dholbachno no no :)02:17
dholbachyou you you! :)02:17
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Hobbseehaha02:18
=== Hobbsee hugs dholbach
=== secretlondon hugs Hobbsee for fixing those bugs in cinepaint
secretlondonwhich doesn't currently work in edgy02:19
Hobbseedholbach: done02:23
Hobbseedholbach: it only fixes 4 bugs.  doesnt that mean that secretlondon and i get 4 hugs?  :P02:23
dholbachsecretlondon, Hobbsee: you do :-)02:23
Hobbsee:)02:24
=== dholbach hugs Hobbsee for overcoming her hate of mailing lists
Hobbsee:)02:26
Hobbseehehe02:26
secretlondonbah have to go to college02:33
=== secretlondon thanks Hobbsee again for her help and pateince
secretlondonpatience02:34
Hobbseesecretlondon: :) not a problem02:35
secretlondon:)02:36
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dicon`anyone has installed mercury messenger on ubuntu edgy?02:46
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sfllawSeveas: Ubugtu isn't displaying new bugs any more.03:53
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dholbachtoo! many! bug! reports!05:43
pepsimanwhere?05:43
dholbachdesktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com05:43
seb128unread bug count to 356 to my launchpad bugs box05:44
dholbach69805:46
pepsiman005:48
dholbachI don't think bug 68695 is a security issue...05:50
UbugtuMalone bug 68695 in gnome-screensaver "Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace when the screen is locked kills the X session" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6869505:50
pepsimanit's annoying, causes data loss, but doesn't give the attacker access to the computer05:51
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sfllawdholbach: You're right.  That's how it's designed to work.05:53
sfllawIn fact, killing the screensaver should do the same thing as well.05:53
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pepsimandholbach: point the reporter at  Option "DontZap"  "boolean"05:58
dholbachpepsiman: ehhh?05:58
pepsimandholbach: in xorg.conf you can disable Ctrl+Alt+Backspace05:58
dholbachI don't want to :-)05:58
pepsimanthe reporter does05:59
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dholbachnot sure :)05:59
pepsimanfine, i'll do it05:59
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sfllawpepsiman: I think that's a bad default.  C-A-Backspace is good to have.06:19
pepsimansfllaw: yes, but if the reporter doesn't want it, he can disable it06:22
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Seveas@reload Bugtracker07:20
towsonu2003what's that?07:22
towsonu2003oh, and, while I typed something here, edgy users -> does your default firefox installation have any ubuntu-related search engines (where engines like google, amazon.com and so on are located)?07:22
pradeeppepsiman, if the reporter disables it, it07:22
pradeep's still present in other machines right?07:23
towsonu2003I'd like to file a spec if you don't...07:23
towsonu2003anyone?07:26
towsonu2003if you see my question later on, please email your response to towsonu2003 at gmail dot com, if you can -thanks :)07:29
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Seveashmm07:40
Seveassfllaw, for some odd reason the bugbot doesn't get mail from the mailinglist, but if I try to subscribe, it says it's already subscribed07:40
Seveassfllaw, and indeed the last mail arrived around the time you said the reports stopped07:44
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pepsimanpradeep: yes07:53
sfllawHmm.08:00
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sfllawSeveas: How about unsubscribing and resubscribing.08:01
sfllawSeveas: What's the e-mail address of Ubugtu?08:01
sfllawI will try sending an e-mail there.08:01
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Seveassfllaw, the addressworks, the resubscription attempt i was talking about arrived08:04
sfllawSeveas: Any new mail?08:06
Seveasjust tried the unsub+sub trick08:11
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Seveassfllaw, bugmail seems to be flowing in again08:16
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joumetalls08:26
joumetalsorry08:27
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sfllawSeveas: Hurray!08:52
sfllawSeveas: I'm looking forward to seeing Ubugtu saying something.08:52
Seveassfllaw, yeah me too08:52
SeveasI can't belive no new bugs are being filed08:52
ajmitchit's been so quiet here without him08:52
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sfllawOh, I know!08:56
Seveas@reload Bantracker08:56
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sfllawLet's see when bug 69562 pops up.08:57
cgeCould someone in ubuntu-qa please look at the importance of bug #36186. I can understand how it was wishlist at the time but it now makes reportbug not only completely useless but also a source of spam on ubuntu-users.08:57
UbugtuMalone bug 69562 in Ubuntu "Ubugtu no longer reports bugs in #ubuntu-bugs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6956208:57
UbugtuMalone bug 36186 in reportbug "Trivial and non-trivial enhancements for bugreport" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3618608:57
Seveashmm, ok, bug in bugtracker plugin08:57
cgeer, s/\./?08:57
sfllawcge: Looking.08:58
Seveas@reload Bugtracker08:58
UbugtuNew bug: #68945 in epiphany-browser (main) "crashes on startup, never shows up" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6894508:58
UbugtuNew bug: #69039 in totem (main) "H 264 movies are not played properly in PPC dapper" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6903908:58
UbugtuNew bug: #69454 in Ubuntu "Edgy: randomly edgy boots whithout ability tu run any app" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6945408:58
UbugtuNew bug: #69476 in mysql-admin (universe) "mysql administrator GUI crashes" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6947608:58
Seveaswoo08:58
UbugtuNew bug: #69479 in katapult (main) "SRU: katapult" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6947908:58
UbugtuNew bug: #69494 in kopete (main) "Kopete 0.12.3 can't log in to ICQ anymore" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6949408:59
UbugtuNew bug: #69521 in oprofile (universe) "[edgy]  oprofile does not start. /usr/bin/opcontrol: 1: arith: syntax error: "NR_CHOSEN - 1"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6952108:59
UbugtuNew bug: #69535 in xmodmap (main) "Sound volume not controllable with mapped buttons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6953508:59
zulargh make it stop :)08:59
UbugtuNew bug: #69550 in firefox (main) "After upgrading to Edgy, firefox doesn't work anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6955008:59
UbugtuNew bug: #69551 in adept (main) "apt-get fails to update to edgy eft" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6955108:59
UbugtuNew bug: #69552 in totem (main) "Firefox don't play videos with totem-mozilla plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6955208:59
UbugtuNew bug: #69553 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed - exit code 139" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6955308:59
UbugtuNew bug: #69554 in installation-report (main) "installation halted by screensaver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6955408:59
UbugtuNew bug: #69555 in Ubuntu "Backspace fired every 5-10 seconds without pressing any key" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6955508:59
Seveas@reload Bugtracker08:59
Seveasok,he's back08:59
sfllawYay.08:59
sfllaw\o/08:59
=== sfllaw hugs Seveas.
sfllawcge: We'd have to basically rewrite reportbug to hook into Malone.09:00
Seveassfllaw, for a person in -qa you sure don't know how to file a bug :09:00
sfllawSeveas: :)09:00
Seveas(ubugtu has his own lp product: ubuntu-bots)09:00
sfllawThat wouldn't pop up in #ubuntu-bugs, woul dit?09:01
cgesfllaw: Yes. So why is reportbug in main?09:01
Seveassfllaw, but I won't see it (I no longer read ubuntu-bugs)09:01
UbugtuNew bug: #69511 in gnome-system-tools (main) "network-admin in edgy lost some functionality" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6951109:01
UbugtuNew bug: #69557 in anjuta (universe) "Anjuta requires autogen in order to create new project" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6955709:01
UbugtuNew bug: #69558 in aptitude (main) "Aptitude don't show recommendeds and suggests packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6955809:01
sfllawSeveas: The point was to make sure a new bug got filed for Ubugtu to pick it up.09:02
Seveassfllaw, btw: there will be some false positives in the new bugs list09:02
Seveasah, right09:02
Seveasno need for that, I have logs09:02
Seveasso I can see what goes wrong09:02
sfllawAh, OK.09:02
sfllawSeveas: Do you have a team of people who maintain Ubugtu?09:03
sfllawWhat happens if you get hit by a bus?09:03
Seveasthen the code is available via launchpad09:03
zulafter or before you get hit by a bus09:04
SeveasBut I don't plan on getting hit by a bus anyway09:04
Seveaszul, since months ago09:04
zulah09:04
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sfllawSeveas: Well, that's an expression.  But do you want some help maintaining Ubugtu?09:04
sfllawIt's a pretty useful bot.09:04
Seveassfllaw, so far I can manage on my own09:05
Seveasif people spot problems they file bugs, so problems don't last fordays (hint, hint ;))09:05
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sfllawYeah yeah.09:06
SeveasI now have a job without IRC at work09:06
UbugtuNew bug: #69559 in console-data (main) "Console displays local characters incorrectly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6955909:06
UbugtuNew bug: #69561 in kdebase (main) "Mediamanager in kde 3.5.5 does not honour automount setting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6956109:06
UbugtuNew bug: #69562 in Ubuntu "Ubugtu no longer reports bugs in #ubuntu-bugs" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6956209:06
Seveasbut lots of beefy servers to play with makes up for that09:06
sfllawSeveas: Congrats!09:07
UbugtuNew bug: #69387 in apache2 (main) "Default config DocumentRoot points to /var/www/." [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6938709:11
UbugtuNew bug: #69560 in openoffice.org (main) "Crash when copying text from Open Office to other applications" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6956009:11
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UbugtuNew bug: #69556 in Ubuntu "Crashes every ten minutes on new 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6955609:19
UbugtuNew bug: #69564 in totem (main) "Troubles while play streaming video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6956409:19
UbugtuNew bug: #69565 in gshare (universe) "gshare-manager always dies on exit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6956509:19
pepsimanyay bugs again09:21
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UbugtuNew bug: #69566 in gnome-system-tools (main) "time-admin crash with some icon set" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6956609:34
UbugtuNew bug: #69567 in f-spot (main) "Let the user decide where to import to" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6956709:35
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ajmitchsfllaw: you're fast09:43
ajmitchbug 69567 should have been rejected because the functionality is there already :)09:44
UbugtuMalone bug 69567 in f-spot "Let the user decide where to import to" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6956709:44
sfllawajmitch: I did a cursury check and couldn't find the preference.09:46
ajmitchit should be there09:46
ajmitchat least it is on my systems09:46
sfllawajmitch: Not in Edgy, at least.09:46
sfllawWhere would that be?09:46
ajmitchshould be in the preferences menu09:47
UbugtuNew bug: #69568 in Ubuntu ""Move to Another Workspace" context menu no longer exists" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6956809:47
UbugtuNew bug: #69569 in wine (universe) "Wine selects the wrong font for display" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6956909:47
UbugtuNew bug: #69570 in gnucash (universe) "gnucash crashes when importing OFX file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6957009:47
ajmitchI'm not in front of an edgy box right now09:47
sfllawajmitch: It's not in Edgy.09:47
ajmitchscreenshot, please09:47
matsubarasfllaw: ping09:48
sfllawmatsubara: Pong.09:48
matsubarasfllaw: could you take a look at bug 69204? I think that one is more like a bug in the Ubuntu automatic crash reporter than in LP09:49
UbugtuMalone bug 69204 in launchpad "Large crash reports take too long to load" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6920409:49
sfllawajmitch: http://www.law.yi.org/~sfllaw/screenshot.png09:50
sfllawmatsubara: Not a bug.  The full report contains a core dump, which is a snapshot of the process's memory.09:51
UbugtuNew bug: #69571 in Ubuntu "compiz+edgy+i810(video) won't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6957109:51
UbugtuNew bug: #69573 in f-spot (main) "Libraries should be watched for changes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6957309:51
sfllawmatsubara: It's supposed to take that long.09:51
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matsubarasfllaw: yes, perhaps the ubuntu tool that does that should warn the user that it'll upload a large file or something like that. Thanks for looking into it.09:52
sfllawmatsubara: That would be an appropriate suggestion to pitti.09:53
sfllawmatsubara: But that isn't this bug.09:53
sfllawajmitch: Am I blind, or is it actually not there?09:53
ajmitchsfllaw: I thought I saw that get into 0.2.1.. perhaps I'm very wrong & didn't get enough sleep09:55
sfllawajmitch: Is it already fixed upstream?09:56
ajmitchyes09:56
UbugtuNew bug: #69572 in xchat (universe) "Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6957209:56
UbugtuNew bug: #69574 in gnome-app-install (main) "Gnome App installs crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6957409:56
sfllawajmitch: Neato.09:56
sfllawajmitch: I wish I were omniscient.09:56
UbugtuNew bug: #69575 in xubuntu-meta (main) "GNOME system tools AWOL in GNOME after install of xubuntu-desktop." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6957510:01
ajmitchsfllaw: I was just commenting earlier that you were fast on incoming bugs :)10:02
sfllawajmitch: Ubugtu helps with that.10:02
ajmitchyes, it does10:02
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seb128matsubara, sfllaw: apport already warn the user that the crash file is not small and has an option for a stripped version10:06
seb128matsubara, sfllaw: what we need is a place where crash files are sent which is not launchpad, then we can triage them from there and move them as proper bugs10:06
UbugtuNew bug: #69576 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Wrong alignment and bidi problems in Hebrew system help" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6957610:07
UbugtuNew bug: #69577 in f-spot (main) "Don't edit files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6957710:07
UbugtuNew bug: #69578 in xubuntu-meta (main) "Sound in Edgy PPC XFCE is barely audible." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6957810:07
sfllawseb128: That may be true, I don't know.  I've never seen an apport window come up.10:08
sfllawseb128: As a QA person, my system is blessed.10:08
seb128ah ah10:08
UbugtuNew bug: #69579 in olive (universe) "same as #64848 (but different package)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6957910:08
UbugtuNew bug: #69581 in subversion (main) "libsvn-javahl no longer installed after updating from Dapper to Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6958110:08
seb128sfllaw: run apport-retrace on a crash file10:08
seb128or kill -11 prog10:10
UbugtuNew bug: #69580 in Ubuntu "root partition mounted twice" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6958010:11
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UbugtuNew bug: #69201 in coreutils (main) "ls segmentation fault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6920110:16
UbugtuNew bug: #69582 in grub (main) "strange menu entry" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6958210:16
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UbugtuNew bug: #69583 in kopete (main) "SRU: kopete can't connect to ICQ. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6958310:23
UbugtuNew bug: #69584 in gnome-panel (main) "GNOME Panel crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6958410:23
UbugtuNew bug: #69585 in glibc (main) "libc6-dev conflicts with libpthread-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6958510:25
UbugtuNew bug: #69586 in Ubuntu "Missing swap uuid partition - After upgrading from 6.4 to 6.10 swaps arent mounted automatically" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6958610:25
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UbugtuNew bug: #68944 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "Volume mount not visible" [Low,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6894410:33
UbugtuNew bug: #69587 in gnome-nettool (main) "Wireless Network Access Points NOT Listed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6958710:33
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UbugtuNew bug: #69495 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "[REGRESSION]  quickcam.ko missing" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6949510:37
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UbugtuNew bug: #69588 in util-vserver (universe) "/var/run/vshelper problem?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6958810:43
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UbugtuNew bug: #69589 in blender (universe) "Please sync blender (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6958910:49
UbugtuNew bug: #69529 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Sound intermittently not working on ThinkPad X60" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6952910:50
UbugtuNew bug: #69590 in scim-anthy (main) "Misspelling" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6959010:50
UbugtuNew bug: #69591 in openoffice.org (main) "Mail Merge Wizard select Address List dificultly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6959110:50
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UbugtuNew bug: #68932 in rhythmbox (main) "Shuffle + repeat + two-track playlist results in buggy behavior" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6893211:03
UbugtuNew bug: #69269 in gnome-panel (main) "(Edgy) Clock Applet - Calendar appears at very top left of screen when opened first time after log in" [Low,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6926911:03
UbugtuNew bug: #69505 in gnome-nettool (main) "Help file not accessible" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6950511:04
UbugtuNew bug: #69593 in dbus-python (main) "Invoking DBus method call crashes server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6959311:06
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UbugtuNew bug: #69594 in firefox (main) "Suddenly it crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6959411:26
UbugtuNew bug: #69373 in f-spot (main) "It was importing about 20000 photos from my ntfs hard disk when crached" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6937311:27
UbugtuNew bug: #69595 in spampd (universe) "spampd install script errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6959511:27
ajmitchsigh11:27
ajmitchhow did that just show up as new? :)11:28
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UbugtuNew bug: #69544 in bash (main) "if you type quickly after you start GNOME Terminal, text is in front of your username" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6954411:44
UbugtuNew bug: #69597 in gltron (universe) "when set video mode to full-screen, get crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6959711:49
UbugtuNew bug: #69598 in Ubuntu "bittorrent, only 1 torrent ok ; 2 torrent, error..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6959811:49
UbugtuNew bug: #69596 in screen (main) ""GNU Screen UTF-8 Character Handling Vulnerabilities"" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6959611:53
UbugtuNew bug: #69531 in Debian (main) "ImageMagick Font Issues" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6953112:00
UbugtuNew bug: #69599 in Ubuntu "Sync request - ri-li (2.0.0-1) from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6959912:00
UbugtuNew bug: #69600 in firefox (main) "Click and drag image crashes firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6960012:02

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