[02:18] <lakin> anyone have tips for tracking down the hard-lockups on my laptop?  They started after I installed edgy.  The only reliable way I can reproduce them is to copy some large file via SFTP w/ Nautilus over my LAN ...
[02:22] <dsas> if you have a hard lock up of everything, then you should probably blame the kernel I think...maybe dmesg or kern.log has some useful output?
[02:33] <lakin> dsas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29478/ <- that's syslog, dmesg, and messages in /var/log/  ... none give me any useful information
[02:35] <dsas> lakin: I don't know what really counts as useful information or not, the log does seem to mention a few network related things though...
[02:38] <lakin> dsas, I'm leaning towards networking, but how do I test it?  remove the network drivers and wait? .... that's not going to happen cause it renders the laptop useless during that portion of time. :)
[02:38] <lakin> At this point, I'm leaning towards reverting to dapper ... or compiling a new updated kernel
[02:39] <dsas> lakin: I don't know...though if the only way you can reproduce the bug is to copy large files over SFTP disabling networking probably will not help find it....
[02:40] <dsas> lakin: Maybe if you post the bug with what detail you do have, someone more knowledgeable will ask for some more specific details.
[02:41] <dsas> lakin: If you have plenty of time and know about compiling your own kernel and using git you can try to track down when the bug appeared.
[02:44] <lakin> I've compiled kernels in the past, but only for my desktop.  And I've never done it for this laptop, so I doubt I'd get all the options right.  Posting a bug report might help...
[02:46] <lakin> dsas, I'll try over wireless for a bit, see if I can get the same lockup.  If not, then I'll blame the wired module.
[04:30] <Nafallo> gnight
[05:21] <Quash> can anyone maybe help a little with a bug that is getting a lot of support from users who are experiencing it but no acknowledgement from Ubuntu folks, even though it is quite severe?
[05:21] <Quash> a number of us are trying to hash the bug out but are having difficulty, but willing to try whatever Ubuntu bug folks want us to in trying to nail it down.
[05:22] <ajmitch> what is the bug number?
[05:22] <Quash> https://launchpad.net/bugs/67487
[05:22] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67487 in Ubuntu "Install 6:10 Failure: Black screen at Live Desktop Stage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[05:23] <ajmitch> bah
[05:23] <ajmitch> not assigned to any package, etc
[05:25] <Quash> back.  Firefox 2 crashed on me... again.
[05:26] <crimsun> you can work around the installation/black screen issue by switching to a virt term, editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use vesa, and restarting gdm
[05:26] <crimsun> I did that yesterday on a Dell
[05:26] <Quash> I just mentioned this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67487
[05:26] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67487 in Ubuntu "Install 6:10 Failure: Black screen at Live Desktop Stage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[05:26] <crimsun> ...and that's what I just addressed.
[05:27] <Quash> Do you mean doing ctrl-alt-F1 through F6 at the black screen to get to console?
[05:27] <crimsun> yes
[05:27] <Jozo-> sounds usplash bug..
[05:27] <crimsun> you should at least get a "could not start X server" error before
[05:28] <Quash> no error.  usplash finishes, blank screen with white cursor in top left for a moment (normal, I believe) and then screen goes blank.
[05:28] <Jozo-> bug 63558, bug 68643, bug 68683 and so on... (maybe all of them are dupes)
[05:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63558 in usplash "Latest usplash leaves my consoles corrupted" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63558
[05:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68643 in usplash "Virtual Consoles don't work after update to Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68643
[05:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68683 in usplash "Edgy doesn't let me switch to console" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68683
[05:29] <crimsun> if you're not seeing at least the X server error message, you're not experiencing the same error I'm referring to
[05:32] <Quash>  yes, people aren't typically getting error messages with this bug and ctrl-alt-F1 doesn't work.
[05:35] <Quash> as a start, I'd like to figure out a workaround to see if that resolves the issue for people.  That will at least give us a clue as to next steps.
[05:35] <Quash> But, Ubuntu Devs haven't even acknowledged the bug yet, despite a lot of users noting they are experiencing the same thing.
[05:35] <Quash> Even Googling now will bring up various forum posts, blog postings, etc about this bug.
[05:35] <crimsun> please be patient. Most of the devs are extremely busy preparing for the dev summit next week.
[05:36] <Quash> I appreciate this.
[05:36] <crimsun> (and the remainder of us volunteers are just as strapped for resources)
[05:37] <crimsun> in any case, you'll see a follow-up on that bug in due time
[05:37] <Quash> Edgy was just released, though, and many users are experiencing a severe bug which prevents them from loading Ubuntu.  I recognize volunteers can't and shouldn't have to cover all the bases.  It's just a pretty ugly bug.
[05:38] <crimsun> does removing splash from the kernel command line mitigate it for that boot?
[05:40] <Quash> what would that line look like if I did that?  I haven't played with boot parameters much.  I can try it.
[05:41] <Quash> This seems to be something that happens after usplash, though, as the Live Desktop is about to kick in.
[06:35] <BHSPitLappy> I will PAT someone to fix the laptop LCD bug
[06:35] <BHSPitLappy> grr
[06:35] <BHSPitLappy> or pay
[06:35] <BHSPitLappy> if patting floats your boat, then that's cool
[06:45] <BHSPitLappy> but really, it's not too cool that ubuntu overheats my laptop if I leave it alone for a few hours
[07:39] <dholbach> good morning
[07:39] <robitaille> Hi dholbach
[07:39] <dholbach> hey robitaille
[07:41] <secretlondon> morning
[07:44] <dholbach> hey secretlondon
[07:44] <dholbach> hey Hobbsee!
[07:45] <secretlondon> hi hobbsee
[07:45] <ajmitch> hi secretlondon, robitaille
[07:45] <secretlondon> hi ajmitch!
[07:45] <Hobbsee> hi dholbach!
[07:46] <Hobbsee> hi secretlondon
[08:03] <secretlondon> the submitter of a lisp bug has got back to me re: missing packages. To get a sync from debian who do I allocate the bug to?
[08:05] <secretlondon> is debian contrib = multiverse?
[08:05] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: for edgy?  you cant.
[08:05] <secretlondon> no for feisty
[08:06] <Mez> ubuntu-archive = the sync masters
[08:06] <secretlondon> Mez: thanks
[08:07] <BHSPitLappy> does anyone know anything about the laptop lcd power bug
[08:07] <Hobbsee> do packages from debian contrib get automatically synced across?
[08:07] <Hobbsee> BHSPitLappy: bug #?
[08:07] <BHSPitLappy> hold on
[08:11] <secretlondon> contrib is free packages that depend on non-free ones apparently
[08:13] <BHSPitLappy> Hobbsee, ok, to name a few... #19410, #30802, #41994, #42274 ...
[08:13] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: ahh.  multiverse then, i guesss
[08:14] <Hobbsee> bug 19410 bug 30802 bug 41994 bug 42274
[08:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 19410 in acpi-support "Laptop backlight does not turn off" [Medium,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/19410
[08:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 30802 in gnome-power-manager "Closing the lid does not switch off backlight (Dell Latitude X1)" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/30802
[08:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 41994 in gnome-power-manager "closed Laptop Lid to reliably keep Backlight off" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/41994
[08:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 42274 in xserver-xgl "Screen active when closing lid" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/42274
[08:14] <BHSPitLappy> they all seem to address my issue; I close the lid, the screen power off, BUT seconds later it turns back on (for the screensaver? that's just stupid behavior)
[08:15] <BHSPitLappy> as a result, I can't leave it closed when I leave.  When I return, the laptop is always burning hot.
[08:15] <BHSPitLappy> the other day, it had actually auto-shutdown from overheating
[08:16] <Hobbsee> ouch
[08:16] <secretlondon> the laptop team are probably the people to ask
[09:05] <secretlondon> we still have some of the unmet dependencies bugs open and unfixed
[09:07] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: indeed.  however, we cant upload to edgy updates, yet, i believe.  we can fix them in feisty though
[09:08] <secretlondon> ok. it would be nice to fix cinepaint as we've had a few dupes
[09:09] <Hobbsee> what's the fix?
[09:09] <secretlondon> 1 sec
[09:10] <secretlondon> bug #65457
[09:10] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65457 in cinepaint "[UNMETDEPS]  cinepaint has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65457
[09:11] <secretlondon> sync of libgutenprintui1-1 for all except amd64 which needs libopenexr2c2
[09:11] <secretlondon> I've not checked to see if we can rebuild with another gutenprint lib
[09:15] <secretlondon> we have libgutenprintui2-1 (5.0.0-2ubuntu2) in egy repos
[09:18] <secretlondon> it hasn't built either
[09:19] <Hobbsee> ouch
[09:19] <secretlondon> it needs some care and attention..
[09:20] <secretlondon> i think we have updated libs for the three deps - 1 build dep and 2 others
[09:20] <Hobbsee> that'd definetly need a SRU, i expect
[09:20] <secretlondon> whats an sru?
[09:20] <Hobbsee> if we were to fix it for edgy
[09:20] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: tell secretlondon about sru's and such things please :0
[09:20] <ajmitch> uh oh
[09:20] <ajmitch> wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU
[09:20] <ajmitch> approval for something to get into edgy-updates
[09:21] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: i'ts all newish :P
[09:21] <Hobbsee> so everyon ehas to
[09:22] <secretlondon> well it's def a regression as it worked in dapper
[09:22] <Hobbsee> indeed
[09:23] <secretlondon> well I guess first step someone needs to see if it will build with a updated lib
[09:23] <ajmitch> secretlondon: note that that's a proposal, extra comments are at the bottom
[09:23] <ajmitch> the SRU plan for universe was only drawn up a few hours ago & is being discussed now
[09:24] <secretlondon> well regardless even for feisty we need to see if it will build with newer libs
[09:24] <Hobbsee> i'd imagine the cinerama stuff is in universe
[09:25] <secretlondon> cinepaint is in universe
[09:25] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: a whole lot of stuff will be synced for feisty anyway - lots of new libs, etc.  probably better to get the merging, etc done first, then work on hte unmet deps
[09:26] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: so don't try and compile the thing?
[09:27] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: well, you can, but masses of packages are about to change anyway.  so if you fix it first, then everything changes, it may not work  anyway :P
[09:27] <Hobbsee> nope, i'ts not there
[09:27] <Hobbsee> but various other libs will change
[09:28] <secretlondon> I'd love to get it back in edgy if I can
[09:28] <Hobbsee> then you need the SRU hackery :)
[09:28] <Hobbsee> which is a black art to me :)
[09:28] <secretlondon> indeed
[09:29] <secretlondon> I think it needs some lurving anyway - so I'll have a go
[09:30] <secretlondon> notes that the amd64 package failed to build in dapper even :(
[09:30] <secretlondon> and no-one seemed to have noticed
[09:34] <Hobbsee> quite likely.  there are many packages :P
[09:34] <secretlondon> there's a few packages like this that need care and attention
[09:36] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: please take care of them :)
[09:37] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: I'll try and love all the neglected bits of universe - although i'll need a motu sponsor for some bits ;)
[09:38] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: of course. there are MOTU's around - if i'm around, you can poke me, and i can either do it myself, or poke another MOTU.  or poke Fujitsu
[09:38] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: likes uploading things
[09:38] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: It'll be a day or two I suspect. And I won't be able to test the amd64
[09:38] <ajmitch> secretlondon: that's an awful lot to care for
[09:39] <ajmitch> you'll probably end up loving about 15000 packages
[09:39] <secretlondon> ajmitch: I know - I have clear favourites, I just tell them all I'll love them equally
[09:39] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: yeah, of course - we cant upload to feisty yet anyway.
[09:40] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: get to it!
[09:41] <Fujitsu> I've uploaded a few things!
[09:41] <Hobbsee> so have i.
[09:41] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: have you beat my long list of packages yet?
[09:41] <Hobbsee> she doesnt have one.
[09:41] <Fujitsu> No, that's a really long list.
[09:41] <Hobbsee> hahaa
[09:41] <Hobbsee> yes
[09:41] <Fujitsu> You evil evil prolific uploader.
[09:41] <Hobbsee> i got most of those uploaded before MOTU
[09:43] <Hobbsee> hah
[09:43] <Hobbsee> no you dont
[09:44] <Fujitsu> *young
[09:48] <berzerking>  j ai des petit soucis de perf sur ma carte graphique qui est une ati radeon 9700 pro mobility et je voulais savoire si y avait du monde a qui ca fesait pareille
[09:49] <berzerking> et salut d abord  ... dsol ... ca fait 2 semaine que je suis dessus et 5 rinstall.
[09:49] <berzerking> lol
[09:49] <seb128> berzerking: quel genre de soucis de perf?
[09:50] <berzerking> seb128: salut ... bh par example des que je joue a un jeu qui demande un minimum de ressource 3D bh ca se met a soter toute les 1 min ...
[09:50] <berzerking> pas terrible quoi
[09:50] <berzerking> pourtant j ai mis les drivers pro de ati
[09:51] <seb128> y a des jeux 3D sous linux? ;)
[09:51] <berzerking> les libre aussi
[09:51] <berzerking> et ca donne pareille
[09:51] <berzerking> mdr
[09:51] <seb128> avec le driver fglrx la 3D devrait marcher
[09:52] <berzerking> mais elle marche
[09:52] <berzerking> mais le probleme c est que ca pedale dans la semoule a un moment
[09:52] <berzerking> glxgears me donne ca ... : 10264 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2043.875 FPS
[09:53] <berzerking> et fgl_glxgears me donne ca ... : Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer     1498 frames in 5.0 seconds = 299.600 FPS
[09:54] <seb128> t'as essay quoi comme jeu qui demander de la 3D?
[09:54] <berzerking> glest
[09:55] <seb128> glxinfo ca dit quoi pour "direct rendering"?
[09:55] <berzerking> ou encore Nexuiz
[09:55] <berzerking> le direct rending me dis yes
[09:56] <seb128> ben c'est ptetre simplement les drivers ATI qui sont lent alors
[09:56] <seb128> les jeux sous linux c'est pas a de toute faon
[09:56] <berzerking> j ai beryl qui tourne donc je fait un e export DISPLAY=:0 mais quand je demarre sur gnome "classic" c est les memes problemes
[09:57] <Mez> !ubuntu-fr
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-fr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <Mez> !fr
[09:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:57] <berzerking> oais c est sure mais quand meme .... nexuiz est reputer pour tourner sur des petite config ...
[09:57] <secretlondon> Mez: This isn't a support channel either..
[09:57] <seb128> ben en faisant tourner des trucs comme beryl tu cherches les ennuis
[09:58] <Mez> secretlondon, "pour de l'aide et de la discussion" help and discussion ;)
[09:58] <berzerking> oais c est sure... mais quand je fait les test je passe direct sous gnome ...
[09:58] <seb128> Mez: what is wrong about using #ubuntu-bugs?
[09:58] <berzerking> je tente pas le kernel panic
[09:59] <Mez> seb128, tbh - I didnt realise it was -bugs ;) i'm just trying to cover my back here
[09:59] <seb128> :)
[09:59] <Seveas> sfllaw, pong
[09:59] <Mez> excuses si je causais n'importe quelle offense
[09:59] <seb128> berzerking: c'est pas vraiment un bug et je pense pas que grand monde ici sache comment dbugger de l'opengl lent
[10:00] <seb128> Mez: pas de problme ;)
[10:00] <berzerking> oais c est sure
[10:02] <Mez> Cela me manque de parler en franais
[10:02] <dholbach> heya seb128
[10:02] <seb128> morning dholbach
[10:03] <dholbach> des jeux 3d sous linux! YAY :)
[10:04] <seb128> ;)
[10:05] <berzerking> a tien ... une erreur qu j avais pas encore vu ... :fglX11FreeBuffer: firegl_FreeBuffer() failed! ubuntu
[10:18] <aizatto> does someone have edgy installed and use evolution, i want to confirm an odd bug
[10:19] <Mez> whats the bug (I have evo installed)
[10:19] <aizatto> try copying text to a new mail in evo
[10:19] <aizatto> copying text from openoffice
[10:20] <aizatto> on my machine it seems to crash openoffice
[10:21] <aizatto> lol :P
[10:21] <Mez> aizatto, indeed, it does crash OOo
[10:22] <aizatto> thx :) i'll report it
[10:22] <aizatto> sorry i wasted 3 years of your life waiting for it to open
[10:22] <ajmitch> I believe that may have been reported already - check the current open bugs against OOo
[10:23] <aizatto> is it directly oo related or evo?
[10:24] <ajmitch> OO
[10:24] <ajmitch> bug 62432
[10:24] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62432 in openoffice.org "Paste from open office to firefox 2.0 causes crash in open office" [Unknown,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62432
[10:25] <aizatto> hmmm
[10:26] <ajmitch> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/68396
[10:26] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68396 in openoffice.org "openoffice.org for edgy-updates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[10:26] <aizatto> fast..
[10:27] <aizatto> new to this.. :P
[10:28] <aizatto> thx though :)
[11:50] <secretlondon> when you download a source package and it automatically adds the patch - is it correct that it doesn't make a debian directory?
[11:51] <Hobbsee> sorry?
[11:51] <pepsiman> how can it build without a debian directory?
[11:51] <Hobbsee> hte original tarball doesnt contain the debian directory
[11:51] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: this is the first time I have done any of this
[11:51] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: you can have a look at what's in hte .diff.gz - contains the debian changes
[11:52] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: the stuff in the .orig.tar.gz is the sutff from upstream - so from gnome, or kde, or whatever
[11:52] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: When I downloaded it I thought it said it applied the contents of .diff.gz
[11:52] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: when you use apt-get source, it automatically grabs the three files, and unpacks them for you
[11:52] <Hobbsee> it does - it's apt-get source helping you out
[11:52] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: but the unpackaged directory doesn't have a debian directory
[11:52] <Hobbsee> if you download the sourc,e you have to do that bit yourself (dpkg-source -x foo.dsc)
[11:53] <secretlondon> so where has it put it!
[11:53] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: which is this for?
[11:53] <secretlondon> this is me jumping in at the deep end and poking cinepaint
[11:53] <Hobbsee> you're in the cinepaint source dir?
[11:54] <Hobbsee> ie, it creates a dir called cinepaint-versionnumber, and in that is hte debian dir?
[11:54] <secretlondon> it makes the dir but without a debian directory
[11:55] <Hobbsee> !info cinerama edgy
[11:55] <ubotu> Package cinerama does not exist in edgy
[11:55] <secretlondon> !info cinepaint edgy
[11:55] <ubotu> cinepaint: motion picture image painting and retouching tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.20-1-2 (edgy), package size 1125 kB, installed size 3000 kB
[11:55] <Hobbsee> ahhhh
[11:56] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: there's a newer version in debian - that will need to be synced across, assuming it all works
[11:56] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: and a even newer one upstream
[11:56] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: it's there.  /home/sarah/Desktop/cinepaint-0.20-1/debian
[11:57] <Hobbsee> they certainly wont take a new upstream into edgy updates
[11:57] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: of course
[11:57] <Hobbsee> i'd take a guess at pebkac, maybe
[11:57] <secretlondon> what's pebkac?
[11:58] <Hobbsee> problem exists between keyboard and chair
[11:59] <Hobbsee> type pwd?
[11:59] <secretlondon> I know it's my problem - you don't have to rude..
[12:00] <secretlondon> though how I can make a mistake with apt-get source who knows..
[12:00] <pepsiman> $ type pwd
[12:00] <pepsiman> pwd is a shell builtin
[12:00] <secretlondon> and no I'm not giving you my password
[12:00] <Hobbsee> wasnt meaning to be
[12:00] <Hobbsee> pwd = current working directory.  you might be thinking of passwd?
[12:01] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: i'm certainly not asking for your password, trust me.  i have no use for it :P
[12:01] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: good ;) I don't allow remote logins anyway :P
[12:02] <Hobbsee> it's okay
[12:02] <secretlondon> sorry
[12:02] <Hobbsee> the reason i asked for the output of pwd was to check that you're in the right directory, seeing as you havent done this before :)
[12:02] <Hobbsee> and it has to be something simple
[12:03] <Hobbsee> the diff looks fairly sane - i think they'll take that
[12:06] <secretlondon> doing it with dpkg-source -x made me a debian dir :)
[12:06] <Hobbsee> yay :)
[12:06] <secretlondon> phew!
[12:06] <Hobbsee> so who knows what the other thing was
[12:06] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: see http://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/cinepaint.  i think they'll take those changes
[12:06] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:07] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: I think one of the changes fixes the amd64 not building bug
[12:07] <secretlondon> but not our gutenprint one
[12:08] <Hobbsee> if you want to see what the changes were, grab the .dsc and the .diff.gz from the bottom of that page, dpkg-source -x the new .dsc, then run debdiff cine*.dsc > debdiff.  and then open debdiff in your favorite text editor
[12:08] <Hobbsee> 31% [2 cinepaint 2389527/7549kB 31%]                     6773B/s 12m44s
[12:08] <Hobbsee> come on...
[12:08] <secretlondon> libopenexr2c2a is the updated version of the lib the amd64 needs
[12:08] <Hobbsee> yep
[12:09] <Hobbsee> which is fixed by magic
[12:09] <Hobbsee> well, which is fixed by a rebuild, due to magic :)
[12:09] <secretlondon> ;)
[12:15] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: i dont know of anything that would paste your password in clear text, unless you specifically typed it
[12:15] <Hobbsee> so i think you're pretty safe :P
[12:15] <secretlondon> agreed
[12:15] <Hobbsee> i'm sure they fixed the "password in cleartext" bug in...breezy...i think
[12:16] <Hobbsee> right.  now it's building.
[12:17] <Hobbsee> no, now it's finding deps
[12:17] <Hobbsee> hurry up, you silly thing!
[12:17] <Hobbsee> ah
[12:19] <secretlondon> mine is complaining at debuild -S can't find debhelper.mk
[12:19] <Hobbsee> install cdbs
[12:19] <Hobbsee> yep, this will need a merge
[12:21] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: okay, that fixed the deps
[12:22] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: cool
[12:23] <Hobbsee> cinepaint
[12:23] <Hobbsee> Reverse Depends:
[12:23] <Hobbsee>   exrtools
[12:23] <Hobbsee>   cinepaint-data
[12:23] <Hobbsee> oh darn it...
[12:25] <Hobbsee> oh, that built.
[12:26] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:26] <Hobbsee> it's *still* building
[12:26] <Hobbsee> dholbach: ping?
[12:27] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: what's the bug number for this?
[12:27] <secretlondon> 65457
[12:28] <Hobbsee> interesting.  it built on i386 in dapper
[12:29] <Hobbsee> bug 65457
[12:29] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65457 in cinepaint "[UNMETDEPS]  cinepaint has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65457
[12:31] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: it's done.  testing for installability
[12:31] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: cool
[12:33] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: excellent :)
[12:33] <xerxas_> seb128, oops, sorry for duplicates
[12:33] <seb128> xerxas_: which ones?
[12:34] <xerxas_> it's not because I'm doing a lot bug triaging and I'm a "power user" that I should not check if bug have already been reported :)
[12:34] <xerxas_> the evolution-alarm-notify  one
[12:34] <xerxas_> I'm wasting you're time with stupid stuff :)
[12:37] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: this is warped
[12:37] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: whats up?
[12:38] <Hobbsee> oh who did *that*
[12:38] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: the ubuntu version number is *not* supposed to be like that :P
[12:38] <irvin> bug 43961
[12:38] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 43961 in linux "Power down after shutdown does not work..." [Unknown,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/43961
[12:40] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: oh no...this is *really* messed up :P
[12:46] <Hobbsee> Malone #34728
[12:46] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 34728 in cinepaint "project homepage" [Low,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/34728
[12:48] <secretlondon> that should be a 1ubuntu1 not a 1-2?
[12:49] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: you got it :)
[12:49] <zul> Hobbsee, wth?
[12:49] <Hobbsee> zul: your fix to cinepaint - you've done the version wrong
[12:50] <zul> ah ok i guess i deserved that then
[12:53] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:15] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: GOT IT!  darned thing.
[01:17] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: YAY!
[01:24] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: is www.buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/ up for you?
[01:25] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: yes
[01:25] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: right, so cinepaint.debdiff is accessible?
[01:25] <Hobbsee> dholbach: ping?
[01:26] <secretlondon> yes
[01:26] <Hobbsee> cool
[01:26] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: it's not here, but if i copy it to a machine in the US, then copy from the US machine to the webserver (which is also in the US), it'll work.  go figure!
[01:28] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: did the libgutenprint fix the amd64 dep too?
[01:29] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: debian did
[01:29] <Hobbsee> well, fixed the ftbfs on amd64
[01:29] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: oh cool
[01:30] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: that debdiff is the changes made from the original ubuntu package - most are from debian, there
[01:31] <secretlondon> Hobbsee: oh cool - didn't realise you'd synced from debian
[01:32] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: if they have the fixes, and the fixes are reasonable, then that sounds pretty good to me
[01:32] <secretlondon> agreed
[01:32] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: i synced it, then added my changes on top of that, and added the old ubuntu changes back in
[01:33] <Hobbsee> using MOM is so much easier.
[02:15] <dholbach> Hobbsee: pong
[02:15] <Hobbsee> dholbach: yay :)
[02:15] <Hobbsee> dholbach: cinepaint FTBFS in edgy - do i need a full SRU for that, or can you just ack it while they figure out what the process is?
[02:15] <Hobbsee> the diff is eyeballable (taken from debian, pretty much)
[02:16] <Hobbsee> dholbach: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/cinepaint.debdiff
[02:16] <dholbach> I can't just ACK it, sorry. I think it'd be wrong to ask for comments on the process and keep others on hold and then just ACK another one :/
[02:16] <Hobbsee> dholbach: bleh.  what do you want to do with it then?
[02:16] <dholbach> I agree that it's eyeballable
[02:17] <Hobbsee> dholbach: and for FTBFS only fixes - do you really think they need 5 acks or to wait 7 days?
[02:17] <Hobbsee> dholbach: it's not like regressions are going to be found for building/installing
[02:17] <dholbach> Could you raise the topic on the list?
[02:17] <Hobbsee> dholbach: sure i could, but i hate mailing lists :P
[02:17] <Hobbsee> dholbach: you could :D
[02:17] <dholbach> no no no :)
[02:17] <dholbach> you you you! :)
[02:18] <Hobbsee> haha
[02:19] <secretlondon> which doesn't currently work in edgy
[02:23] <Hobbsee> dholbach: done
[02:23] <Hobbsee> dholbach: it only fixes 4 bugs.  doesnt that mean that secretlondon and i get 4 hugs?  :P
[02:23] <dholbach> secretlondon, Hobbsee: you do :-)
[02:24] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:26] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:26] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:33] <secretlondon> bah have to go to college
[02:34] <secretlondon> patience
[02:35] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: :) not a problem
[02:36] <secretlondon> :)
[02:46] <dicon`> anyone has installed mercury messenger on ubuntu edgy?
[03:44] <bddebian> Boo
[03:53] <sfllaw> Seveas: Ubugtu isn't displaying new bugs any more.
[05:43] <dholbach> too! many! bug! reports!
[05:43] <pepsiman> where?
[05:43] <dholbach> desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
[05:44] <seb128> unread bug count to 356 to my launchpad bugs box
[05:46] <dholbach> 698
[05:48] <pepsiman> 0
[05:50] <dholbach> I don't think bug 68695 is a security issue...
[05:50] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68695 in gnome-screensaver "Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace when the screen is locked kills the X session" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68695
[05:51] <pepsiman> it's annoying, causes data loss, but doesn't give the attacker access to the computer
[05:53] <sfllaw> dholbach: You're right.  That's how it's designed to work.
[05:53] <sfllaw> In fact, killing the screensaver should do the same thing as well.
[05:58] <pepsiman> dholbach: point the reporter at  Option "DontZap"  "boolean"
[05:58] <dholbach> pepsiman: ehhh?
[05:58] <pepsiman> dholbach: in xorg.conf you can disable Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[05:58] <dholbach> I don't want to :-)
[05:59] <pepsiman> the reporter does
[05:59] <dholbach> not sure :)
[05:59] <pepsiman> fine, i'll do it
[06:19] <sfllaw> pepsiman: I think that's a bad default.  C-A-Backspace is good to have.
[06:22] <pepsiman> sfllaw: yes, but if the reporter doesn't want it, he can disable it
[07:20] <Seveas> @reload Bugtracker
[07:22] <towsonu2003> what's that?
[07:22] <towsonu2003> oh, and, while I typed something here, edgy users -> does your default firefox installation have any ubuntu-related search engines (where engines like google, amazon.com and so on are located)?
[07:22] <pradeep> pepsiman, if the reporter disables it, it
[07:23] <pradeep> 's still present in other machines right?
[07:23] <towsonu2003> I'd like to file a spec if you don't...
[07:26] <towsonu2003> anyone?
[07:29] <towsonu2003> if you see my question later on, please email your response to towsonu2003 at gmail dot com, if you can -thanks :)
[07:40] <Seveas> hmm
[07:40] <Seveas> sfllaw, for some odd reason the bugbot doesn't get mail from the mailinglist, but if I try to subscribe, it says it's already subscribed
[07:44] <Seveas> sfllaw, and indeed the last mail arrived around the time you said the reports stopped
[07:53] <pepsiman> pradeep: yes
[08:00] <sfllaw> Hmm.
[08:01] <sfllaw> Seveas: How about unsubscribing and resubscribing.
[08:01] <sfllaw> Seveas: What's the e-mail address of Ubugtu?
[08:01] <sfllaw> I will try sending an e-mail there.
[08:04] <Seveas> sfllaw, the addressworks, the resubscription attempt i was talking about arrived
[08:06] <sfllaw> Seveas: Any new mail?
[08:11] <Seveas> just tried the unsub+sub trick
[08:16] <Seveas> sfllaw, bugmail seems to be flowing in again
[08:26] <joumetal> ls
[08:27] <joumetal> sorry
[08:52] <sfllaw> Seveas: Hurray!
[08:52] <sfllaw> Seveas: I'm looking forward to seeing Ubugtu saying something.
[08:52] <Seveas> sfllaw, yeah me too
[08:52] <Seveas> I can't belive no new bugs are being filed
[08:52] <ajmitch> it's been so quiet here without him
[08:56] <sfllaw> Oh, I know!
[08:56] <Seveas> @reload Bantracker
[08:57] <sfllaw> Let's see when bug 69562 pops up.
[08:57] <cge> Could someone in ubuntu-qa please look at the importance of bug #36186. I can understand how it was wishlist at the time but it now makes reportbug not only completely useless but also a source of spam on ubuntu-users.
[08:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 69562 in Ubuntu "Ubugtu no longer reports bugs in #ubuntu-bugs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69562
[08:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 36186 in reportbug "Trivial and non-trivial enhancements for bugreport" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/36186
[08:57] <Seveas> hmm, ok, bug in bugtracker plugin
[08:57] <cge> er, s/\./?
[08:58] <sfllaw> cge: Looking.
[08:58] <Seveas> @reload Bugtracker
[08:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68945 in epiphany-browser (main) "crashes on startup, never shows up" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68945
[08:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69039 in totem (main) "H 264 movies are not played properly in PPC dapper" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69039
[08:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69454 in Ubuntu "Edgy: randomly edgy boots whithout ability tu run any app" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69454
[08:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69476 in mysql-admin (universe) "mysql administrator GUI crashes" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69476
[08:58] <Seveas> woo
[08:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69479 in katapult (main) "SRU: katapult" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69479
[08:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69494 in kopete (main) "Kopete 0.12.3 can't log in to ICQ anymore" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69494
[08:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69521 in oprofile (universe) "[edgy]  oprofile does not start. /usr/bin/opcontrol: 1: arith: syntax error: "NR_CHOSEN - 1"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69521
[08:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69535 in xmodmap (main) "Sound volume not controllable with mapped buttons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69535
[08:59] <zul> argh make it stop :)
[08:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69550 in firefox (main) "After upgrading to Edgy, firefox doesn't work anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69550
[08:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69551 in adept (main) "apt-get fails to update to edgy eft" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69551
[08:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69552 in totem (main) "Firefox don't play videos with totem-mozilla plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69552
[08:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69553 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed - exit code 139" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69553
[08:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69554 in installation-report (main) "installation halted by screensaver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69554
[08:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69555 in Ubuntu "Backspace fired every 5-10 seconds without pressing any key" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69555
[08:59] <Seveas> @reload Bugtracker
[08:59] <Seveas> ok,he's back
[08:59] <sfllaw> Yay.
[08:59] <sfllaw> \o/
[09:00] <sfllaw> cge: We'd have to basically rewrite reportbug to hook into Malone.
[09:00] <Seveas> sfllaw, for a person in -qa you sure don't know how to file a bug :
[09:00] <sfllaw> Seveas: :)
[09:00] <Seveas> (ubugtu has his own lp product: ubuntu-bots)
[09:01] <sfllaw> That wouldn't pop up in #ubuntu-bugs, woul dit?
[09:01] <cge> sfllaw: Yes. So why is reportbug in main?
[09:01] <Seveas> sfllaw, but I won't see it (I no longer read ubuntu-bugs)
[09:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69511 in gnome-system-tools (main) "network-admin in edgy lost some functionality" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69511
[09:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69557 in anjuta (universe) "Anjuta requires autogen in order to create new project" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69557
[09:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69558 in aptitude (main) "Aptitude don't show recommendeds and suggests packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69558
[09:02] <sfllaw> Seveas: The point was to make sure a new bug got filed for Ubugtu to pick it up.
[09:02] <Seveas> sfllaw, btw: there will be some false positives in the new bugs list
[09:02] <Seveas> ah, right
[09:02] <Seveas> no need for that, I have logs
[09:02] <Seveas> so I can see what goes wrong
[09:02] <sfllaw> Ah, OK.
[09:03] <sfllaw> Seveas: Do you have a team of people who maintain Ubugtu?
[09:03] <sfllaw> What happens if you get hit by a bus?
[09:03] <Seveas> then the code is available via launchpad
[09:04] <zul> after or before you get hit by a bus
[09:04] <Seveas> But I don't plan on getting hit by a bus anyway
[09:04] <Seveas> zul, since months ago
[09:04] <zul> ah
[09:04] <sfllaw> Seveas: Well, that's an expression.  But do you want some help maintaining Ubugtu?
[09:04] <sfllaw> It's a pretty useful bot.
[09:05] <Seveas> sfllaw, so far I can manage on my own
[09:05] <Seveas> if people spot problems they file bugs, so problems don't last fordays (hint, hint ;))
[09:06] <sfllaw> Yeah yeah.
[09:06] <Seveas> I now have a job without IRC at work
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69559 in console-data (main) "Console displays local characters incorrectly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69559
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69561 in kdebase (main) "Mediamanager in kde 3.5.5 does not honour automount setting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69561
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69562 in Ubuntu "Ubugtu no longer reports bugs in #ubuntu-bugs" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69562
[09:06] <Seveas> but lots of beefy servers to play with makes up for that
[09:07] <sfllaw> Seveas: Congrats!
[09:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69387 in apache2 (main) "Default config DocumentRoot points to /var/www/." [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69387
[09:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69560 in openoffice.org (main) "Crash when copying text from Open Office to other applications" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69560
[09:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69556 in Ubuntu "Crashes every ten minutes on new 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69556
[09:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69564 in totem (main) "Troubles while play streaming video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69564
[09:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69565 in gshare (universe) "gshare-manager always dies on exit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69565
[09:21] <pepsiman> yay bugs again
[09:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69566 in gnome-system-tools (main) "time-admin crash with some icon set" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69566
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69567 in f-spot (main) "Let the user decide where to import to" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69567
[09:43] <ajmitch> sfllaw: you're fast
[09:44] <ajmitch> bug 69567 should have been rejected because the functionality is there already :)
[09:44] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 69567 in f-spot "Let the user decide where to import to" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69567
[09:46] <sfllaw> ajmitch: I did a cursury check and couldn't find the preference.
[09:46] <ajmitch> it should be there
[09:46] <ajmitch> at least it is on my systems
[09:46] <sfllaw> ajmitch: Not in Edgy, at least.
[09:46] <sfllaw> Where would that be?
[09:47] <ajmitch> should be in the preferences menu
[09:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69568 in Ubuntu ""Move to Another Workspace" context menu no longer exists" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69568
[09:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69569 in wine (universe) "Wine selects the wrong font for display" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69569
[09:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69570 in gnucash (universe) "gnucash crashes when importing OFX file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69570
[09:47] <ajmitch> I'm not in front of an edgy box right now
[09:47] <sfllaw> ajmitch: It's not in Edgy.
[09:47] <ajmitch> screenshot, please
[09:48] <matsubara> sfllaw: ping
[09:48] <sfllaw> matsubara: Pong.
[09:49] <matsubara> sfllaw: could you take a look at bug 69204? I think that one is more like a bug in the Ubuntu automatic crash reporter than in LP
[09:49] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 69204 in launchpad "Large crash reports take too long to load" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69204
[09:50] <sfllaw> ajmitch: http://www.law.yi.org/~sfllaw/screenshot.png
[09:51] <sfllaw> matsubara: Not a bug.  The full report contains a core dump, which is a snapshot of the process's memory.
[09:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69571 in Ubuntu "compiz+edgy+i810(video) won't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69571
[09:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69573 in f-spot (main) "Libraries should be watched for changes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69573
[09:51] <sfllaw> matsubara: It's supposed to take that long.
[09:52] <matsubara> sfllaw: yes, perhaps the ubuntu tool that does that should warn the user that it'll upload a large file or something like that. Thanks for looking into it.
[09:53] <sfllaw> matsubara: That would be an appropriate suggestion to pitti.
[09:53] <sfllaw> matsubara: But that isn't this bug.
[09:53] <sfllaw> ajmitch: Am I blind, or is it actually not there?
[09:55] <ajmitch> sfllaw: I thought I saw that get into 0.2.1.. perhaps I'm very wrong & didn't get enough sleep
[09:56] <sfllaw> ajmitch: Is it already fixed upstream?
[09:56] <ajmitch> yes
[09:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69572 in xchat (universe) "Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69572
[09:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69574 in gnome-app-install (main) "Gnome App installs crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69574
[09:56] <sfllaw> ajmitch: Neato.
[09:56] <sfllaw> ajmitch: I wish I were omniscient.
[10:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69575 in xubuntu-meta (main) "GNOME system tools AWOL in GNOME after install of xubuntu-desktop." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69575
[10:02] <ajmitch> sfllaw: I was just commenting earlier that you were fast on incoming bugs :)
[10:02] <sfllaw> ajmitch: Ubugtu helps with that.
[10:02] <ajmitch> yes, it does
[10:06] <seb128> matsubara, sfllaw: apport already warn the user that the crash file is not small and has an option for a stripped version
[10:06] <seb128> matsubara, sfllaw: what we need is a place where crash files are sent which is not launchpad, then we can triage them from there and move them as proper bugs
[10:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69576 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Wrong alignment and bidi problems in Hebrew system help" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69576
[10:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69577 in f-spot (main) "Don't edit files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69577
[10:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69578 in xubuntu-meta (main) "Sound in Edgy PPC XFCE is barely audible." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69578
[10:08] <sfllaw> seb128: That may be true, I don't know.  I've never seen an apport window come up.
[10:08] <sfllaw> seb128: As a QA person, my system is blessed.
[10:08] <seb128> ah ah
[10:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69579 in olive (universe) "same as #64848 (but different package)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69579
[10:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69581 in subversion (main) "libsvn-javahl no longer installed after updating from Dapper to Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69581
[10:08] <seb128> sfllaw: run apport-retrace on a crash file
[10:10] <seb128> or kill -11 prog
[10:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69580 in Ubuntu "root partition mounted twice" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69580
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69201 in coreutils (main) "ls segmentation fault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69201
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69582 in grub (main) "strange menu entry" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69582
[10:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69583 in kopete (main) "SRU: kopete can't connect to ICQ. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69583
[10:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69584 in gnome-panel (main) "GNOME Panel crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69584
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69585 in glibc (main) "libc6-dev conflicts with libpthread-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69585
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69586 in Ubuntu "Missing swap uuid partition - After upgrading from 6.4 to 6.10 swaps arent mounted automatically" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69586
[10:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68944 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "Volume mount not visible" [Low,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68944
[10:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69587 in gnome-nettool (main) "Wireless Network Access Points NOT Listed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69587
[10:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69495 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "[REGRESSION]  quickcam.ko missing" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69495
[10:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69588 in util-vserver (universe) "/var/run/vshelper problem?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69588
[10:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69589 in blender (universe) "Please sync blender (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69589
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69529 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Sound intermittently not working on ThinkPad X60" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69529
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69590 in scim-anthy (main) "Misspelling" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69590
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69591 in openoffice.org (main) "Mail Merge Wizard select Address List dificultly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69591
[11:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68932 in rhythmbox (main) "Shuffle + repeat + two-track playlist results in buggy behavior" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68932
[11:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69269 in gnome-panel (main) "(Edgy) Clock Applet - Calendar appears at very top left of screen when opened first time after log in" [Low,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69269
[11:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69505 in gnome-nettool (main) "Help file not accessible" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69505
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69593 in dbus-python (main) "Invoking DBus method call crashes server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69593
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69594 in firefox (main) "Suddenly it crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69594
[11:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69373 in f-spot (main) "It was importing about 20000 photos from my ntfs hard disk when crached" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69373
[11:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69595 in spampd (universe) "spampd install script errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69595
[11:27] <ajmitch> sigh
[11:28] <ajmitch> how did that just show up as new? :)
[11:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69544 in bash (main) "if you type quickly after you start GNOME Terminal, text is in front of your username" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69544
[11:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69597 in gltron (universe) "when set video mode to full-screen, get crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69597
[11:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69598 in Ubuntu "bittorrent, only 1 torrent ok ; 2 torrent, error..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69598
[11:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69596 in screen (main) ""GNU Screen UTF-8 Character Handling Vulnerabilities"" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69596
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69531 in Debian (main) "ImageMagick Font Issues" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69531
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69599 in Ubuntu "Sync request - ri-li (2.0.0-1) from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69599
[12:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69600 in firefox (main) "Click and drag image crashes firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69600