=== coyctecm [n=coy@a84-230-221-147.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === bronson [n=bronson@66.160.177.216] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-6-106.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dous [n=dous@124.107.248.204] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ash211_ [n=andrew@user-1121gsn.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp1-167.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@69-87-140-119.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === jrib [n=jasonr@unaffiliated/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === jonh_wendell [n=wendell@39-88-199-200.vcnet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:18] anyone have tips for tracking down the hard-lockups on my laptop? They started after I installed edgy. The only reliable way I can reproduce them is to copy some large file via SFTP w/ Nautilus over my LAN ... [02:22] if you have a hard lock up of everything, then you should probably blame the kernel I think...maybe dmesg or kern.log has some useful output? === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-73-61.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:33] dsas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29478/ <- that's syslog, dmesg, and messages in /var/log/ ... none give me any useful information [02:35] lakin: I don't know what really counts as useful information or not, the log does seem to mention a few network related things though... [02:38] dsas, I'm leaning towards networking, but how do I test it? remove the network drivers and wait? .... that's not going to happen cause it renders the laptop useless during that portion of time. :) [02:38] At this point, I'm leaning towards reverting to dapper ... or compiling a new updated kernel [02:39] lakin: I don't know...though if the only way you can reproduce the bug is to copy large files over SFTP disabling networking probably will not help find it.... [02:40] lakin: Maybe if you post the bug with what detail you do have, someone more knowledgeable will ask for some more specific details. [02:41] lakin: If you have plenty of time and know about compiling your own kernel and using git you can try to track down when the bug appeared. [02:44] I've compiled kernels in the past, but only for my desktop. And I've never done it for this laptop, so I doubt I'd get all the options right. Posting a bug report might help... [02:46] dsas, I'll try over wireless for a bit, see if I can get the same lockup. If not, then I'll blame the wired module. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === andresmujica [n=AndresMu@190.24.105.129] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === zul [n=bob@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === opixus [n=urk@bas13-toronto63-1242371373.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Rinchen [n=Rinchen@ubuntu/member/rinchen] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp1-167.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === quail-laptop [n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Nafallo ska sova, gnatt [04:30] gnight === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Quash [n=chatzill@d36-18-205.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:21] can anyone maybe help a little with a bug that is getting a lot of support from users who are experiencing it but no acknowledgement from Ubuntu folks, even though it is quite severe? [05:21] a number of us are trying to hash the bug out but are having difficulty, but willing to try whatever Ubuntu bug folks want us to in trying to nail it down. [05:22] what is the bug number? [05:22] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67487 [05:22] Malone bug 67487 in Ubuntu "Install 6:10 Failure: Black screen at Live Desktop Stage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [05:23] bah [05:23] not assigned to any package, etc === Quash [n=chatzill@d36-18-205.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:25] back. Firefox 2 crashed on me... again. [05:26] you can work around the installation/black screen issue by switching to a virt term, editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use vesa, and restarting gdm [05:26] I did that yesterday on a Dell [05:26] I just mentioned this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67487 [05:26] Malone bug 67487 in Ubuntu "Install 6:10 Failure: Black screen at Live Desktop Stage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [05:26] ...and that's what I just addressed. [05:27] Do you mean doing ctrl-alt-F1 through F6 at the black screen to get to console? [05:27] yes [05:27] sounds usplash bug.. [05:27] you should at least get a "could not start X server" error before [05:28] no error. usplash finishes, blank screen with white cursor in top left for a moment (normal, I believe) and then screen goes blank. [05:28] bug 63558, bug 68643, bug 68683 and so on... (maybe all of them are dupes) [05:28] Malone bug 63558 in usplash "Latest usplash leaves my consoles corrupted" [Low,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/63558 [05:28] Malone bug 68643 in usplash "Virtual Consoles don't work after update to Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68643 [05:28] Malone bug 68683 in usplash "Edgy doesn't let me switch to console" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68683 [05:29] if you're not seeing at least the X server error message, you're not experiencing the same error I'm referring to === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-238-192.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:32] yes, people aren't typically getting error messages with this bug and ctrl-alt-F1 doesn't work. [05:35] as a start, I'd like to figure out a workaround to see if that resolves the issue for people. That will at least give us a clue as to next steps. [05:35] But, Ubuntu Devs haven't even acknowledged the bug yet, despite a lot of users noting they are experiencing the same thing. [05:35] Even Googling now will bring up various forum posts, blog postings, etc about this bug. [05:35] please be patient. Most of the devs are extremely busy preparing for the dev summit next week. [05:36] I appreciate this. [05:36] (and the remainder of us volunteers are just as strapped for resources) [05:37] in any case, you'll see a follow-up on that bug in due time [05:37] Edgy was just released, though, and many users are experiencing a severe bug which prevents them from loading Ubuntu. I recognize volunteers can't and shouldn't have to cover all the bases. It's just a pretty ugly bug. [05:38] does removing splash from the kernel command line mitigate it for that boot? === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:40] what would that line look like if I did that? I haven't played with boot parameters much. I can try it. [05:41] This seems to be something that happens after usplash, though, as the Live Desktop is about to kick in. === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-65-67-112-77.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:35] I will PAT someone to fix the laptop LCD bug [06:35] grr [06:35] or pay [06:35] if patting floats your boat, then that's cool === secretlondon [n=secretlo@5ac0b80e.bb.sky.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:45] but really, it's not too cool that ubuntu overheats my laptop if I leave it alone for a few hours === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dous [i=dous@ubuntu/member/dous] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dous_ [i=dous@ubuntu/member/dous] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dous_ is now known as dous === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1D07.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:39] good morning [07:39] Hi dholbach [07:39] hey robitaille === dholbach hugs robitaille [07:41] morning [07:44] hey secretlondon === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:44] hey Hobbsee! [07:45] hi hobbsee [07:45] hi secretlondon, robitaille [07:45] hi ajmitch! [07:45] hi dholbach! [07:46] hi secretlondon === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === calavera [n=calavera@195.Red-80-26-32.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:03] the submitter of a lisp bug has got back to me re: missing packages. To get a sync from debian who do I allocate the bug to? [08:05] is debian contrib = multiverse? [08:05] secretlondon: for edgy? you cant. [08:05] no for feisty [08:06] ubuntu-archive = the sync masters [08:06] Mez: thanks === Hobbsee wonders what debian contrib is [08:07] does anyone know anything about the laptop lcd power bug [08:07] do packages from debian contrib get automatically synced across? [08:07] BHSPitLappy: bug #? === BHSPitLappy appreciates the vague nature of his question [08:07] hold on === bronson [n=bronson@c-71-198-75-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:11] contrib is free packages that depend on non-free ones apparently [08:13] Hobbsee, ok, to name a few... #19410, #30802, #41994, #42274 ... === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:13] secretlondon: ahh. multiverse then, i guesss [08:14] bug 19410 bug 30802 bug 41994 bug 42274 [08:14] Malone bug 19410 in acpi-support "Laptop backlight does not turn off" [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/19410 [08:14] Malone bug 30802 in gnome-power-manager "Closing the lid does not switch off backlight (Dell Latitude X1)" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30802 [08:14] Malone bug 41994 in gnome-power-manager "closed Laptop Lid to reliably keep Backlight off" [Medium,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41994 [08:14] Malone bug 42274 in xserver-xgl "Screen active when closing lid" [Medium,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/42274 [08:14] they all seem to address my issue; I close the lid, the screen power off, BUT seconds later it turns back on (for the screensaver? that's just stupid behavior) [08:15] as a result, I can't leave it closed when I leave. When I return, the laptop is always burning hot. [08:15] the other day, it had actually auto-shutdown from overheating [08:16] ouch === Hobbsee doesnt know [08:16] the laptop team are probably the people to ask === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === towsonu2003 [n=towsonu2@c-69-251-20-244.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B1D07.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B1D07.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Czubek [n=Damian@82.160.179.10] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-36-116.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mvo [n=egon@p54A6716D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:05] we still have some of the unmet dependencies bugs open and unfixed [09:07] secretlondon: indeed. however, we cant upload to edgy updates, yet, i believe. we can fix them in feisty though [09:08] ok. it would be nice to fix cinepaint as we've had a few dupes [09:09] what's the fix? [09:09] 1 sec [09:10] bug #65457 [09:10] Malone bug 65457 in cinepaint "[UNMETDEPS] cinepaint has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65457 [09:11] sync of libgutenprintui1-1 for all except amd64 which needs libopenexr2c2 [09:11] I've not checked to see if we can rebuild with another gutenprint lib [09:15] we have libgutenprintui2-1 (5.0.0-2ubuntu2) in egy repos [09:18] it hasn't built either [09:19] ouch [09:19] it needs some care and attention.. [09:20] i think we have updated libs for the three deps - 1 build dep and 2 others [09:20] that'd definetly need a SRU, i expect [09:20] whats an sru? [09:20] if we were to fix it for edgy [09:20] ajmitch: tell secretlondon about sru's and such things please :0 [09:20] uh oh [09:20] wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU [09:20] approval for something to get into edgy-updates === secretlondon goes and rtfm [09:21] secretlondon: i'ts all newish :P [09:21] so everyon ehas to [09:22] well it's def a regression as it worked in dapper [09:22] indeed [09:23] well I guess first step someone needs to see if it will build with a updated lib [09:23] secretlondon: note that that's a proposal, extra comments are at the bottom [09:23] the SRU plan for universe was only drawn up a few hours ago & is being discussed now === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:24] well regardless even for feisty we need to see if it will build with newer libs [09:24] i'd imagine the cinerama stuff is in universe [09:25] cinepaint is in universe [09:25] secretlondon: a whole lot of stuff will be synced for feisty anyway - lots of new libs, etc. probably better to get the merging, etc done first, then work on hte unmet deps [09:26] Hobbsee: so don't try and compile the thing? [09:27] secretlondon: well, you can, but masses of packages are about to change anyway. so if you fix it first, then everything changes, it may not work anyway :P === Hobbsee looks up cinepaint on the merges list [09:27] nope, i'ts not there [09:27] but various other libs will change [09:28] I'd love to get it back in edgy if I can [09:28] then you need the SRU hackery :) [09:28] which is a black art to me :) [09:28] indeed [09:29] I think it needs some lurving anyway - so I'll have a go [09:30] notes that the amd64 package failed to build in dapper even :( [09:30] and no-one seemed to have noticed === lloydinho [n=andreas@host-81-191-164-121.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:34] quite likely. there are many packages :P [09:34] there's a few packages like this that need care and attention === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:36] secretlondon: please take care of them :) [09:37] Hobbsee: I'll try and love all the neglected bits of universe - although i'll need a motu sponsor for some bits ;) [09:38] secretlondon: of course. there are MOTU's around - if i'm around, you can poke me, and i can either do it myself, or poke another MOTU. or poke Fujitsu [09:38] Fujitsu: likes uploading things [09:38] Hobbsee: It'll be a day or two I suspect. And I won't be able to test the amd64 [09:38] secretlondon: that's an awful lot to care for [09:39] you'll probably end up loving about 15000 packages [09:39] ajmitch: I know - I have clear favourites, I just tell them all I'll love them equally [09:39] secretlondon: yeah, of course - we cant upload to feisty yet anyway. === Fujitsu hides. [09:40] Fujitsu: get to it! === Hobbsee uses her long pointy stick of doom on Fujitsu [09:41] I've uploaded a few things! [09:41] so have i. === Fujitsu attacks Hobbsee with elkbuntu's normal pointy stick of doom. [09:41] Fujitsu: have you beat my long list of packages yet? [09:41] she doesnt have one. === Fujitsu shudders. [09:41] No, that's a really long list. [09:41] hahaa [09:41] yes === ajmitch hasn't uploaded much at all [09:41] You evil evil prolific uploader. [09:41] i got most of those uploaded before MOTU === ajmitch needs to retire to let these young kids through [09:43] hah [09:43] no you dont === Fujitsu is the yound kid of MOTU-land. [09:44] *young === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === berzerking [n=berzerk@LPuteaux-151-42-7-209.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-65-67-112-77.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:48] j ai des petit soucis de perf sur ma carte graphique qui est une ati radeon 9700 pro mobility et je voulais savoire si y avait du monde a qui ca fesait pareille [09:49] et salut d abord ... dsol ... ca fait 2 semaine que je suis dessus et 5 rinstall. [09:49] lol [09:49] berzerking: quel genre de soucis de perf? [09:50] seb128: salut ... bh par example des que je joue a un jeu qui demande un minimum de ressource 3D bh ca se met a soter toute les 1 min ... [09:50] pas terrible quoi [09:50] pourtant j ai mis les drivers pro de ati [09:51] y a des jeux 3D sous linux? ;) [09:51] les libre aussi [09:51] et ca donne pareille [09:51] mdr [09:51] avec le driver fglrx la 3D devrait marcher [09:52] mais elle marche [09:52] mais le probleme c est que ca pedale dans la semoule a un moment [09:52] glxgears me donne ca ... : 10264 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2043.875 FPS [09:53] et fgl_glxgears me donne ca ... : Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer 1498 frames in 5.0 seconds = 299.600 FPS [09:54] t'as essay quoi comme jeu qui demander de la 3D? [09:54] glest [09:55] glxinfo ca dit quoi pour "direct rendering"? [09:55] ou encore Nexuiz [09:55] le direct rending me dis yes [09:56] ben c'est ptetre simplement les drivers ATI qui sont lent alors [09:56] les jeux sous linux c'est pas a de toute faon [09:56] j ai beryl qui tourne donc je fait un e export DISPLAY=:0 mais quand je demarre sur gnome "classic" c est les memes problemes [09:57] !ubuntu-fr [09:57] Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-fr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [09:57] !fr [09:57] Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais. [09:57] oais c est sure mais quand meme .... nexuiz est reputer pour tourner sur des petite config ... [09:57] Mez: This isn't a support channel either.. [09:57] ben en faisant tourner des trucs comme beryl tu cherches les ennuis [09:58] secretlondon, "pour de l'aide et de la discussion" help and discussion ;) [09:58] oais c est sure... mais quand je fait les test je passe direct sous gnome ... [09:58] Mez: what is wrong about using #ubuntu-bugs? [09:58] je tente pas le kernel panic [09:59] seb128, tbh - I didnt realise it was -bugs ;) i'm just trying to cover my back here [09:59] :) [09:59] sfllaw, pong [09:59] excuses si je causais n'importe quelle offense [09:59] berzerking: c'est pas vraiment un bug et je pense pas que grand monde ici sache comment dbugger de l'opengl lent [10:00] Mez: pas de problme ;) [10:00] oais c est sure [10:02] Cela me manque de parler en franais === Mez se joint #ubuntu-fr [10:02] heya seb128 [10:02] morning dholbach [10:03] des jeux 3d sous linux! YAY :) [10:04] ;) === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:05] a tien ... une erreur qu j avais pas encore vu ... :fglX11FreeBuffer: firegl_FreeBuffer() failed! ubuntu === pschulz01 [n=paul@202.174.42.5] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === aizatto [n=aizat@218.208.204.86] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:18] does someone have edgy installed and use evolution, i want to confirm an odd bug [10:19] whats the bug (I have evo installed) [10:19] try copying text to a new mail in evo [10:19] copying text from openoffice [10:20] on my machine it seems to crash openoffice === Mez waits 3 years for OOo to boot [10:21] lol :P [10:21] aizatto, indeed, it does crash OOo [10:22] thx :) i'll report it [10:22] sorry i wasted 3 years of your life waiting for it to open [10:22] I believe that may have been reported already - check the current open bugs against OOo [10:23] is it directly oo related or evo? [10:24] OO [10:24] bug 62432 [10:24] Malone bug 62432 in openoffice.org "Paste from open office to firefox 2.0 causes crash in open office" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62432 [10:25] hmmm [10:26] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/68396 [10:26] Malone bug 68396 in openoffice.org "openoffice.org for edgy-updates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [10:26] fast.. [10:27] new to this.. :P [10:28] thx though :) === coyctecm [n=coy@a84-230-221-147.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B179F.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-6-106.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dsas [n=dean@host-84-9-171-137.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dsas [n=dean@cpc2-stok6-0-0-cust395.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mal [i=pascal@nat/hp/x-3378f2917686db8a] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mal is now known as _mal === dsas [n=dean@cpc2-stok6-0-0-cust395.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:50] when you download a source package and it automatically adds the patch - is it correct that it doesn't make a debian directory? [11:51] sorry? [11:51] how can it build without a debian directory? [11:51] hte original tarball doesnt contain the debian directory [11:51] Hobbsee: this is the first time I have done any of this [11:51] secretlondon: you can have a look at what's in hte .diff.gz - contains the debian changes [11:52] secretlondon: the stuff in the .orig.tar.gz is the sutff from upstream - so from gnome, or kde, or whatever [11:52] Hobbsee: When I downloaded it I thought it said it applied the contents of .diff.gz [11:52] secretlondon: when you use apt-get source, it automatically grabs the three files, and unpacks them for you [11:52] it does - it's apt-get source helping you out [11:52] Hobbsee: but the unpackaged directory doesn't have a debian directory [11:52] if you download the sourc,e you have to do that bit yourself (dpkg-source -x foo.dsc) [11:53] so where has it put it! [11:53] secretlondon: which is this for? [11:53] this is me jumping in at the deep end and poking cinepaint === Hobbsee looks [11:53] you're in the cinepaint source dir? [11:54] ie, it creates a dir called cinepaint-versionnumber, and in that is hte debian dir? [11:54] it makes the dir but without a debian directory === Hobbsee waits... [11:55] !info cinerama edgy [11:55] Package cinerama does not exist in edgy [11:55] !info cinepaint edgy [11:55] cinepaint: motion picture image painting and retouching tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.20-1-2 (edgy), package size 1125 kB, installed size 3000 kB [11:55] ahhhh [11:56] secretlondon: there's a newer version in debian - that will need to be synced across, assuming it all works [11:56] Hobbsee: and a even newer one upstream [11:56] secretlondon: it's there. /home/sarah/Desktop/cinepaint-0.20-1/debian [11:57] they certainly wont take a new upstream into edgy updates === secretlondon wonders why she didn't get a /debian directory [11:57] Hobbsee: of course [11:57] i'd take a guess at pebkac, maybe [11:57] what's pebkac? [11:58] problem exists between keyboard and chair [11:59] type pwd? [11:59] I know it's my problem - you don't have to rude.. [12:00] though how I can make a mistake with apt-get source who knows.. [12:00] $ type pwd [12:00] pwd is a shell builtin [12:00] and no I'm not giving you my password [12:00] wasnt meaning to be [12:00] pwd = current working directory. you might be thinking of passwd? === mvo_ [n=egon@p54A67899.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:01] secretlondon: i'm certainly not asking for your password, trust me. i have no use for it :P [12:01] Hobbsee: good ;) I don't allow remote logins anyway :P === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === secretlondon is just stressing herself. [12:02] it's okay [12:02] sorry [12:02] the reason i asked for the output of pwd was to check that you're in the right directory, seeing as you havent done this before :) [12:02] and it has to be something simple [12:03] the diff looks fairly sane - i think they'll take that [12:06] doing it with dpkg-source -x made me a debian dir :) [12:06] yay :) [12:06] phew! [12:06] so who knows what the other thing was === secretlondon thanks Hobbsee for her patience [12:06] secretlondon: see http://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/cinepaint. i think they'll take those changes [12:06] :) [12:07] Hobbsee: I think one of the changes fixes the amd64 not building bug [12:07] but not our gutenprint one [12:08] if you want to see what the changes were, grab the .dsc and the .diff.gz from the bottom of that page, dpkg-source -x the new .dsc, then run debdiff cine*.dsc > debdiff. and then open debdiff in your favorite text editor [12:08] 31% [2 cinepaint 2389527/7549kB 31%] 6773B/s 12m44s [12:08] come on... [12:08] libopenexr2c2a is the updated version of the lib the amd64 needs [12:08] yep [12:09] which is fixed by magic [12:09] well, which is fixed by a rebuild, due to magic :) [12:09] ;) === Hobbsee will try to build this on amd64, once it actually downloads. [12:15] secretlondon: i dont know of anything that would paste your password in clear text, unless you specifically typed it [12:15] so i think you're pretty safe :P [12:15] agreed [12:15] i'm sure they fixed the "password in cleartext" bug in...breezy...i think === secretlondon gets stressed out over crap [12:16] right. now it's building. [12:17] no, now it's finding deps [12:17] hurry up, you silly thing! [12:17] ah [12:19] mine is complaining at debuild -S can't find debhelper.mk [12:19] install cdbs [12:19] yep, this will need a merge === Hobbsee rebuilds it, with the correct dep === Hobbsee taps her fingers and waits :P [12:21] secretlondon: okay, that fixed the deps [12:22] Hobbsee: cool [12:23] cinepaint [12:23] Reverse Depends: [12:23] exrtools [12:23] cinepaint-data [12:23] oh darn it... === Hobbsee looks what happened to exrtools. theoretically, that should have failed to build too === Czubek [n=Damian@82.160.179.10] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:25] oh, that built. === secretlondon should have started with hello really.. [12:26] hehe [12:26] it's *still* building [12:26] dholbach: ping? === jonh_wendell [n=wendell@200165129048.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:27] secretlondon: what's the bug number for this? [12:27] 65457 [12:28] interesting. it built on i386 in dapper [12:29] bug 65457 [12:29] Malone bug 65457 in cinepaint "[UNMETDEPS] cinepaint has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65457 === Hobbsee marks the amd64 one as a dupe of that, as they'll all be fixed at once [12:31] secretlondon: it's done. testing for installability [12:31] Hobbsee: cool === xerxas_ [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-38-203.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:33] secretlondon: excellent :) [12:33] seb128, oops, sorry for duplicates [12:33] xerxas_: which ones? [12:34] it's not because I'm doing a lot bug triaging and I'm a "power user" that I should not check if bug have already been reported :) [12:34] the evolution-alarm-notify one [12:34] I'm wasting you're time with stupid stuff :) [12:37] secretlondon: this is warped [12:37] Hobbsee: whats up? [12:38] oh who did *that* === Hobbsee thumps zul [12:38] secretlondon: the ubuntu version number is *not* supposed to be like that :P [12:38] bug 43961 [12:38] Malone bug 43961 in linux "Power down after shutdown does not work..." [Unknown,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/43961 [12:40] secretlondon: oh no...this is *really* messed up :P === Hobbsee loosk closer [12:46] Malone #34728 [12:46] Malone bug 34728 in cinepaint "project homepage" [Low,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/34728 === jonh_wendell [n=wendell@200165129048.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:48] that should be a 1ubuntu1 not a 1-2? [12:49] secretlondon: you got it :) [12:49] Hobbsee, wth? [12:49] zul: your fix to cinepaint - you've done the version wrong [12:50] ah ok i guess i deserved that then [12:53] hehe === Hobbsee fixes it === calavera [n=calavera@195.Red-80-26-32.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === fernando [n=fernando@gw.conab.gov.br] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dous [i=dous@ubuntu/member/dous] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-36-116.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === txwikinger2 [n=txwiking@blah.jabber.dk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === xeros [i=xeros@fan194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/gosub] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === trappist [i=trappist@linuxkungfu.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === zakame_ [n=zakame@69.60.114.100] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === G0SUB_ [i=ghoseb@69.60.114.104] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === opixus [n=urk@bas13-toronto63-1177851342.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === trappist [i=trappist@linuxkungfu.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:15] secretlondon: GOT IT! darned thing. [01:17] Hobbsee: YAY! [01:24] secretlondon: is www.buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/ up for you? [01:25] Hobbsee: yes [01:25] secretlondon: right, so cinepaint.debdiff is accessible? [01:25] dholbach: ping? === Hobbsee kicks dreamhost [01:26] yes [01:26] cool [01:26] secretlondon: it's not here, but if i copy it to a machine in the US, then copy from the US machine to the webserver (which is also in the US), it'll work. go figure! === Hobbsee suspects that that entire package is going to be a nuisance === zakame_ is now known as zakame [01:28] Hobbsee: did the libgutenprint fix the amd64 dep too? [01:29] secretlondon: debian did [01:29] well, fixed the ftbfs on amd64 [01:29] Hobbsee: oh cool [01:30] secretlondon: that debdiff is the changes made from the original ubuntu package - most are from debian, there [01:31] Hobbsee: oh cool - didn't realise you'd synced from debian [01:32] secretlondon: if they have the fixes, and the fixes are reasonable, then that sounds pretty good to me [01:32] agreed [01:32] secretlondon: i synced it, then added my changes on top of that, and added the old ubuntu changes back in [01:33] using MOM is so much easier. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Czubek [n=Damian@82.160.179.10] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === motin_ [n=motin@c80-217-109-98.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:15] Hobbsee: pong [02:15] dholbach: yay :) [02:15] dholbach: cinepaint FTBFS in edgy - do i need a full SRU for that, or can you just ack it while they figure out what the process is? [02:15] the diff is eyeballable (taken from debian, pretty much) [02:16] dholbach: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/cinepaint.debdiff [02:16] I can't just ACK it, sorry. I think it'd be wrong to ask for comments on the process and keep others on hold and then just ACK another one :/ [02:16] dholbach: bleh. what do you want to do with it then? [02:16] I agree that it's eyeballable [02:17] dholbach: and for FTBFS only fixes - do you really think they need 5 acks or to wait 7 days? [02:17] dholbach: it's not like regressions are going to be found for building/installing [02:17] Could you raise the topic on the list? [02:17] dholbach: sure i could, but i hate mailing lists :P [02:17] dholbach: you could :D [02:17] no no no :) [02:17] you you you! :) === dholbach hugs Hobbsee [02:18] haha === Hobbsee hugs dholbach === secretlondon hugs Hobbsee for fixing those bugs in cinepaint [02:19] which doesn't currently work in edgy [02:23] dholbach: done [02:23] dholbach: it only fixes 4 bugs. doesnt that mean that secretlondon and i get 4 hugs? :P [02:23] secretlondon, Hobbsee: you do :-) [02:24] :) === dholbach hugs Hobbsee for overcoming her hate of mailing lists [02:26] :) [02:26] hehe [02:33] bah have to go to college === secretlondon thanks Hobbsee again for her help and pateince [02:34] patience [02:35] secretlondon: :) not a problem [02:36] :) === dicon` [n=lol@201-0-28-145.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:46] anyone has installed mercury messenger on ubuntu edgy? === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === jelmer [n=jelmer@a62-251-123-16.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === pascalebo [i=pascal@nat/hp/x-ed9ee7bfcc7a5b30] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === jrib [n=jasonr@unaffiliated/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === pirast [n=martin@p508B2258.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:44] Boo === pradeep [n=pradeep@59.92.85.113] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === yamal [n=yamal@llibertat.guifi.cat] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:53] Seveas: Ubugtu isn't displaying new bugs any more. === thotz [n=thomas@M3719P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === thotz [n=thomas@M3719P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Riot777 [n=riot777@aaqz252.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === geser [n=michael@dialin110168.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === matid [n=matid@195.116.35.6] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ville_ [n=ville@a81-197-22-200.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === thekorn [n=markus@a89-182-29-170.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === palski [n=ville@a81-197-22-200.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:43] too! many! bug! reports! [05:43] where? [05:43] desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com [05:44] unread bug count to 356 to my launchpad bugs box [05:46] 698 [05:48] 0 [05:50] I don't think bug 68695 is a security issue... [05:50] Malone bug 68695 in gnome-screensaver "Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace when the screen is locked kills the X session" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68695 [05:51] it's annoying, causes data loss, but doesn't give the attacker access to the computer === towsonu2003 [n=towsonu2@c-69-251-20-244.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:53] dholbach: You're right. That's how it's designed to work. [05:53] In fact, killing the screensaver should do the same thing as well. === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:58] dholbach: point the reporter at Option "DontZap" "boolean" [05:58] pepsiman: ehhh? [05:58] dholbach: in xorg.conf you can disable Ctrl+Alt+Backspace [05:58] I don't want to :-) [05:59] the reporter does === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:59] not sure :) [05:59] fine, i'll do it === luis_lopez [n=luis_lop@68-182-36-132-Public-Marmac-MIPHA.client.eng.telusmobility.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:19]