=== GmanAKF is now known as Gman === Tonio___ [n=tonio@129.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-206-191-56-75.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:15] I'm looking for someone who manager the firefox package. [12:16] iwj is the only one that I know of, but he seems to be ignoring me or MIA> [12:16] ispiked: iwj is your man. What is your issue? [12:17] Burgwork: basically, in eft you crash if you view a page with flash in it. It's a major issue and I was just wondering if anything was being done about it and/or he iwj was aware of it. [12:17] ispiked: it is a flash bug [12:17] bug adobe [12:17] Burgwork: yeah, but it crashes Firefox. [12:17] welcome to closed source crap [12:18] lobby adobe to support open source flash, gnash [12:18] there are two obvious work-arounds that could be implemented. [12:18] file a bug report with those work arounds [12:18] it will get to him [12:18] I cced the adobe flash linux guy on the mozilla bug. [12:18] he still hasn't responded. === davidme [n=davidme@D-128-208-39-177.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@credativ.bcnadsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180101102.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:28] ok, commented on https://launchpad.net/products/firefox/+bug/14911. [12:28] Malone bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Unknown,Confirmed] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:29] ispiked: I believe a 3rd workaround is to set Options Composite 0 in xorg.conf === mbiebl [n=michael@e180101102.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:30] jdong: is composite enabled by default? because I've seen people's xorg.confs that crash without composite listed as an extension. [12:30] ispiked: in edgy / Xorg 7.1, yes [12:30] jdong: ah, alright. [12:30] I don't think that was well documented enough in the release notes [12:30] it leads to fglrx shutting off 3D acceleration by default, too [12:30] it definitely should be added. :\ [12:30] jdong: it? [12:30] which has lead to a good deal of confusion [12:30] jdong: the crash? [12:30] ispiked: composite extensions [12:31] jdong: oh. [12:31] when fglrx detects composite, it'll disable DRI [12:31] ispiked: thanks. I didn;t want to be harsh, but iwj is drowing in enough bugs [12:31] the unfortunate answer is you shouldn't have bought an ATI card [12:31] Burgwork: does he do more than Firefox? [12:31] yep [12:31] know any good mozilla gurus? [12:32] Burgwork: yes. [12:32] Burgwork: I'm an active member of the mozilla community. [12:32] Burgwork: time is tight over there, too, though. :\ [12:32] HrdwrBoB: heh... on laptops there aren't that many better alternatives [12:32] ispiked: canonical is looking for a full time moz maintainer [12:32] Burgwork: mmm... [12:32] jdong: I didn't say it was easy or even feasible :) [12:32] GMA950, really.... but if you need more graphical performance than that, it's ATI :) [12:33] Burgwork: mozilla has hired most of its good contributors. :P [12:33] yes, yes it has [12:33] Burgwork: everyone I can think of already works for Mozilla. [12:33] Burgwork: but I'll keep that in mind. === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-6-106.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:48] didn't shutdown have a fsck option [12:48] before upstart? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@129.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === iXce [n=ixce2@195-14-0-203.nuxit.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === mayday_jay [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Tonio___ [n=tonio@129.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@194.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dous [n=dous@124.107.248.204] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shadok [n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:15] hi [01:15] is there any date for including a 2.6.18 kernel in repositories , [01:15] ? [01:16] shadok: the kernel for 6.10 is frozen [01:16] I believe feisty will use .19, or whatever is the latest stable as of kernel release [01:16] kernel freeze, rather [01:16] ahok so there is a kernel version per release ? [01:17] yes [01:17] thanks for the details :) [01:17] no worries [01:17] shadok: are you thinking FC-style? [01:17] with updated kernels after release? [01:18] how does it work when a critical bug is found ? patching the actual release of the kernel ? [01:18] yes, the patch is backported [01:18] backported patch [01:18] which is the only sane way to do it [01:18] i'm a gentoo user so kernel versions are regularly updated, i juste was wondering what was about in ubuntu :) [01:19] right [01:19] gentoo has a very different release style than Ubuntu [01:19] i'll look for a description of backports in ubuntu [01:19] the kernel is never backported [01:20] ok only the patches [01:20] is this easy to apply a patch to an ubuntu kernel ? [01:20] that is maintained in git [01:20] just apt-get it ? [01:20] no, in git [01:21] just a minute, time to find out what it is ^^ [01:22] ok, are git's repositories the same thant backport ? [01:22] *than [01:23] no [01:24] ubuntu maintains it kernel is git [01:24] there are branches for each release [01:25] the problem is that a friend of mine needs a >=2.6.18 kernel to use his webcam, do we have to patch his 2.6.17 kernel or compile a vanilla one or is there another simple way ? [01:25] ok [01:25] the patch might have been already backported [01:25] check to see if it works [01:25] ok thx :) === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === evand [n=evand@ubuntu/member/evand] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [n=anthony@ekorp-218-185-9-170.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=Jack@61.49.220.253] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.237.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:12] so, who do I subscribe to bug 65795 to start the SRU process? The wiki wasn't clear about how/where to send the proposal, other than making sure it was in the bug too. [02:12] Malone bug 65795 in vino "vino won't accept my password" [High,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65795 === robertj__ [n=robertj@66-168-214-78.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:15] SSRU ? === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:17] Stable Release Update ? [02:17] dsas: yup. [02:17] I'm going to assume I'm supposed to email mdz and cjwatson directly, since I don't see any SRUs on ubuntu-devel. === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:31] keescook: doesn't the SRU wiki page say? [02:33] keescook: You probably just want to subscribe mdz and kamion to the bug and paste your proposal in there.... [02:33] at least that's what I get from the wiki page. === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:49] BenC: did we end up with xen enabled kernels in edgy by default ? [02:49] not by default [02:49] they are in universe [02:49] cool [02:49] so if I just search for xen in apt, I should be able to figure it out ? [02:50] do they have all the other patches regular kernels do ? [02:50] 2.6.17 kernels do 2.6.16 doesnt [02:50] lifeless: x86 or amd64? [02:51] k7 (x86) [02:51] ok, 2.6.17 should be fine for you :) [02:51] BenC: Boo! [02:51] http://librarian.launchpad.net/4941201/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-powerpc.linux-source-2.6.19_2.6.19-2.2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [02:51] http://librarian.launchpad.net/4941202/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-sparc.linux-source-2.6.19_2.6.19-2.2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [02:51] good afternoon infinity [02:54] BenC: Looks like the linux32 stuff didn't get fixed? [02:56] infinity: I had it fixed locally, not sure why it's still broken [02:57] infinity: ppc brokeness I fixed, but wrongly [02:57] copied it to defconfig instead of ppc_defconfig [02:57] infinity: I can do another upload in a minute [02:58] after I figure out what the hell is wrong with sparc [03:00] Maybe you fixed it in a local test tree, but didn't commit to git? :) [03:00] (Lord knows I've done that enough times) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === debian_ [n=debian@hlfxns0146w-142167183188.pppoe-dynamic.ns.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:02] 2.6.17 xenthingie doesn't work :-P [03:04] Nafallo: we know that, ok [03:04] oh. oki. [03:04] I thought it was just me and some few others. [03:05] you've told us about 3 or 4 times that it has issues, we've seen the bugs :) [03:05] I won't upgrade my server then ;-) [03:05] no, it's any amd64 xen kernel [03:05] but the i386 should work? === jturek [n=jturek@64.8.32.84] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:05] yes im running right now === Nafallo ponders if the might run amd64 guest on i386 host ;-) [03:06] Not if the host is an i386 kernel, that's for sure. [03:06] oki. have to drop that idea then... === zul [n=bob@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=Jack@61.49.220.253] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mind [n=Wearab@88.86.29.140] has joined #ubuntu-devel === didymo [n=ashley@CPE-61-9-197-223.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MrKeuner [n=kudo@unaffiliated/mrkeuner] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:26] hi, is there an environment variable to be set in order for dpkg-buildpackage to use jam instead of make for a particular project? === Nafallo ska sova, gnatt [04:30] gnight [04:31] MrKeuner: to actually build the source? you can specify the build commands in debian/rules [04:31] LaserJock: right. OK I'll try that thanks === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-238-192.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:41] hm, is there a way to explicitly blacklist certain modules during livecd boot? [04:41] changing #!make to #!jam in debian/rules does not work, what else should I possibly be doing? === ispiked wonders how much effort making a patch for a package would be. [04:44] MrKeuner: you want debian/rules to use jam? [04:45] MrKeuner: that's kinda odd [04:45] I thought you just wanted to use jam to build the source [04:47] ispiked: it's not terrible. if you want help you can ask #ubuntu-motu [04:51] LaserJock: the package I would like to compile and create a deb package out of, asks for jam to be used instead of make [04:52] MrKeuner: sure, but you still want to use make to process debian/rules [04:52] MrKeuner: so in the build: rule in debian/rules is where you want to use jam [04:53] Oh, then What am I actually supposed to do? [04:53] MrKeuner: does that make sense? [04:54] yes but I cannot find some place to let rules script know that I need it to use jam [04:54] you just use jam instead of make [04:54] How do I do that? [04:55] keescook: I thought you were gone for the day. :P [04:55] MrKeuner: can you pastebin your debian/rules file? [04:55] sure [04:55] !pastebin > MrKeuner [04:55] keescook: Also, some sbuild hacking and some manual mangling of previous builds, and everything seems good, except for ia64. [04:58] LaserJock: http://pastebin.ca/230169 [04:58] # [04:58] # Add here commands to compile the arch part of the package. [04:58] # [04:58] #$(MAKE) === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:58] That's the part where you'd call jam. [04:59] yeah [04:59] Also, can you please take this to -motu, or somewhere other than here. [04:59] Sorry, I thought it wasn't off topic === shadok_ [n=shad@ACaen-251-1-83-221.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:00] When the question is essentiall "I ran dh_make, and don't know how to edit the template", it's a bit off-topic, yes. There are plenty of good manuals (and helpful people in -motu) to get you going. [05:02] OK, I'll remember that thank you for the help. === psusi [n=phreak@user-0c6s9jp.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Quash [n=chatzill@d36-18-205.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:18] can anyone maybe help a little with a big that is getting a lot of support from users who are experiencing it but no acknowledgement from Ubuntu folks, even though it is quite severe? [05:18] sorry, not "big" but "bug." :) [05:20] a number of us are trying to hash the bug out but are having difficulty, but willing to try whatever Ubuntu bug folks want us to in trying to nail it down. === mnepton [n=mneptok@montreal.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:20] Quash: #ubuntu-bugs is the channel you want then :-) [05:20] LaserJock: thx! 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Sleep time for me. === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1D07.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:39] good morning [07:39] morning daniel [07:39] how's it going? [07:39] good :) [07:39] we had a lively discussion earlier about universe & edgy-updates :) [07:40] ahh! [07:40] see -motu list [07:43] it looks good - I'll think about it today and reply to it [07:43] thanks for working on it === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marilize [n=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pingar [n=saltvik@ti500720a080-5762.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ctd [i=ctd@shell.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D8635.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bronson [n=bronson@c-71-198-75-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lorenzod [n=lorenzod@80.87.77.58] has joined #ubuntu-devel === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:19] do -proposed uploads need to be uploaded by a core-dev? === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:21] no. I presume you're following SRU. [08:21] well, will be ;) [08:21] once I get this f**ker working# === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B1D07.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B1D07.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kozz_ [i=kozz@81-232-134-52-no22.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === towsonu2003 [n=towsonu2@c-69-251-20-244.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Xof [n=mas01cr@gibbons.doc.gold.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:55] keescook: ping? [08:55] is anyone making Real Compiz packages, instead of all this beryl guff? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Czubek [n=Damian@82.160.179.10] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:56] jdub: isnt compiz already in repos? [08:56] Hobbsee: that's not Real [08:56] jdub: beryl - because not integrating into GNOME is a great thing for GNOME-based distros [08:56] ah [08:57] Hobbsee: that is beryl, pre-fork [08:57] ahhh [08:57] when they were still denying it was a fork [08:57] it was just "community patches" [08:57] jdub: we can probably whip up some sane compiz packages for feisty [08:57] Hobbsee: it's an old version of the bongsipping branch [08:57] hehe [08:58] ajmitch: yeah, i'm thinking of quickly doing one up based on fedora's, which is great === Hobbsee has used said branch.... [08:58] it didnt set my computer on fire, at least :P [08:58] not exactly a roaring recommendation there, Hobbsee [08:58] Burgundavia: hehe, true that [08:59] getting a good sane compiz is good to end this "beryl is good for us" talk [08:59] http://www.tycomsystems.com/beos/BeBook/The%20Kernel%20Kit/System.html [08:59] is_computer_on_fire() [09:00] er [09:00] heh [09:00] haha, nice [09:00] linux used to say 'lp0: printer on fire' when it ran out of paper apparently [09:00] "Returns 1 if the computer is on. If the computer isn't on, the value returned by this function is undefined." === openix [n=theballz@125-236-128-51.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@p54A6716D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [n=carlos@84.Red-83-53-120.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:05] the Be API reflected the long hours worked by Be employees === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-devel === malcc [n=malcolm@host86-135-237-55.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.7.103.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@88-107-3-169.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lloydinho [n=andreas@host-81-191-164-121.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marsu_ [n=user@c83-252-79-255.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:43] mvo, you here? =) === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-130-207.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:44] DBO: hello === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:45] mvo, I dont know if anyone from beryl has thanked you yet, but we owe you a thank you and apology for the backports on mesa === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-65-67-112-77.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:45] I hear you fixed them in the update-manager, thank you very much [09:46] DBO: no problem, don't worry :) [09:47] well thats it for me here, if your at UDS I'd like to buy you a cold one [09:48] goodnight =) === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has left #ubuntu-devel ["I] [09:48] heh === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:52] mvo: Can I direct you to the bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/python-apt/+bug/68553 ? Your fix seems to work, and it would be nice to consider having it in eg. dapper-updates... the problem might prevent working update-manager dist-upgrade on thousands of installed machines. [09:52] Malone bug 68553 in update-manager "Dapper upgrade to Edgy: Frozen dist-upgrade and failed second run (in finish locales" [Medium,Confirmed] [09:54] Mirv: thanks, I will upload a new version when I get it past the stable-release-updates === CheekyBoinc [n=fox@p509215C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === timfrost [n=timfrost@125-237-80-168.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-49945450a2c4dcaf] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Illiyah [i=blah@bas11-ottawa23-1177652089.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@137.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B179F.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === martink [n=martink@213.61.101.1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shackan [n=shackan@85-18-14-13.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === givre [n=Florent@90.2.12.245] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-6-106.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:45] what's wrong with feisty-changes archives.. they seem to be lagging [10:46] really? [10:46] that's the impression I get [10:46] how so? [10:46] the archiver is very heavily loaded [10:47] or is it that the uploads are being accepted later [10:47] the latest post to it seems to be linux-source from last thursday [10:47] no biggie, I'm just used to follow -changes ;) [10:50] do we need to subscribe the feisty-changes? or somebody is going to subscribe the people who were subscribed to edgy-changes? [10:51] Spads: too many lists :) [10:51] seb128: i believe you have to subscribe yoruself [10:52] tepsipakki: well, lists used in place of syslog :) [10:52] seb128: you need to sub yourself [10:52] bah [10:53] ok [10:53] who is listadmin nowadays? he's being lazy ;) [10:53] seb128: Spads! ;-) === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kozz [i=kozz@81-232-134-52-no22.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:54] No, I'm not list admin [10:55] although I can be [10:55] dholbach: liar! [10:55] :) [10:55] nah, he's close enough [10:56] I see no pending moderation events === dholbach hugs Spads [10:56] the question was why people need to subscribe again ;) === dholbach can remember seeing the question for at least 3 releases ;) === Spads is new kid on the block [10:58] dholbach: not true, liar again! [10:58] the problem was always the same === Keybuk thought jdub used to copy the subscription list [10:58] no [10:58] feisty uploads are probably being approved manually [10:58] jdub used to subscribe me [10:58] Keybuk: he did [10:58] oh? then he did it only for his special friends [10:58] it's possible that he used to copy certain bits of the list [10:58] or certain lists of people [10:58] dholbach: like everybody expected you ;) [10:59] the distro team by example ;) [10:59] s/expected/excepted [10:59] seb128: only the important people, like you === seb128 kicks dholbach [11:00] :-) === holycow [n=a@mail.wjsgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:00] stop whining :p [11:00] I didn't whine! [11:00] I subscribed to feisty-changes on my own [11:00] so stop complaining you were not automatically subscribed to new lists previous cycles :p [11:00] eeeeeeehhhh? === seb128 hugs dholbach === dholbach confiscates some people's crack pipes === dholbach hugs seb128 back [11:01] dholbach: getting picked on? :) [11:01] dholbach: but crack pipes are fun! [11:02] get working on some bug reports! :-) === dholbach hugs ajmitch and Hobbsee === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:02] yessir! [11:02] dholbach: we cant upload yet! === Hobbsee hugs dholbach === Hobbsee attacks ajmitch with a Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (tm) [11:03] I'm triaging like crazy without uploading packages :) [11:03] kind of you [11:03] indeed [11:03] lots of crash reports since the release [11:03] dholbach: that's really nice to see you cracking on bugs again ;) === seb128 thinks we should not open feisty before some weeks so people can catch up on bug triage :p [11:04] there is no "catching up" [11:04] seb128: as much as i love you [11:04] seb128: it is true that i grepped for ubuntu.com :-) [11:04] seb128: as opposed to special casing you ;-) [11:04] tepsipakki: so, is it your belief that more than four uploads have been accepted into feisty so far? [11:05] jdub: haha === seb128 hugs jdub [11:05] ARE YOU NOW OR HAVE YOU EVER BEEN UPLOADED TO FEISTY? [11:05] by the way [11:05] i am fixing my irc client now [11:05] such that every time i type "feisty" [11:05] it appears as "fisty" [11:05] ahha === ogra tries to hold back his coffee [11:06] "fesity" is popular too [11:06] but not as funny :) === kent [n=kent@82.145.136.38] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Stephan_abroad [n=Stephan_@host217-44-44-85.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === StevenK idly wonders how he can take over a spec. [11:14] StevenK: what are you wanting to hijack? [11:14] ajmitch: about-ubuntu [11:14] aha [11:15] was that mpt's? [11:15] Yup. === StevenK has spent roughly an hour coding bad Python for it. :-) [11:15] hehe [11:15] I thought he already had something for it.. [11:15] So did I, but I got sick of trying to corner him. [11:16] he's usually not that hard to hunt down [11:16] hmm? [11:17] there he GOES [11:17] :) [11:17] hey mpt === mpt tries hibernating with 6.10, and fails [11:19] ajmitch: To be honest, I've spent that little on it, that I don't mind throwing it. [11:19] mpt: have you got any code for about-ubuntu ? [11:19] what's a good package for making graphs? [11:19] is there anything "prettier" than gnuplot? [11:19] Probably, but gnuplot works.. [11:20] ajmitch, yes [11:20] I haven't done the drag-and-drop, though [11:21] in bzr somewhere? [11:21] and the key combo for closing the window has broken somehow === dsas [n=dean@host-84-9-171-137.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:22] No, it's not in bzr [11:22] Hmm, I wonder if I can use this "Launchpad" thing for hosting it [11:22] apparantly you can === zoyd [n=vinay@220.225.33.101] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@93.167-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dsas [n=dean@cpc2-stok6-0-0-cust395.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:29] mpt: If you want to share what you have, I can hack on it. === LedStyle [n=ledstyle@c953a2c7.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:36] Hey guys... who will get this bug? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67084 - The time is not syncing right... We all that live here in Sao Paulo are having problems with the time! [11:36] Malone bug 67084 in tzdata "[Edgy] Ubuntu Installer - Time Configuration" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [11:36] Its just a imple bug :( [11:37] simple* === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-12-7.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:37] dholbach: Heh. I really should see about stealing that LP name. You're not the first one to do that. :/ === dholbach hugs infinity [11:38] I'll bear it in mind, the next time [11:38] infinity: I'm sure elmo could make an 'error' in Launchpad happen ;-) [11:38] LedStyle: ask jbaily or pitti when they are around [11:38] Well, so could I. [11:39] dholbach: Unfortunately, there's currently no way to link two different usernames, so "stealing" the account wouldn't do much good. === dsas [n=dean@cpc2-stok6-0-0-cust395.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:40] seb128, ok. But i would like to indicate that bug to the correct team and package (upstream). No one look bug in Rosetta? :( [11:40] StevenK, ok, I'm trying to work out how to register it on Launchpad [11:41] infinity: I'm sure stub can run some SQL queries accidentally. :) [11:41] LedStyle: the bug is fixed with the new tzdata, it's a matter of backporting the fix [11:42] dholbach: I could accidentally whack the account, my point is that there's no way in the code to make people/adconrad == people/infnity [11:43] I really should file a bug about that, rather than the informal "hey, is this possible" I did on #lp... [11:43] ah ok. [11:44] mpt: Right. [11:46] ok seb128 tks. [11:46] np [11:47] seb128, its just because this edgy time sux. Its displaying gmt-2 but its gmt -3. Im using another place in configs :D === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:47] LedStyle: I understand the issue, that's because the summer time change is wrong to tzdata, should be fixed soon when you really change for summer time :p [11:48] seb128, and maybe return to normal time before too :D [11:49] infinity: filing sync request for libselinux - you were last to touch it, so I thought I'd let you know before you spent any time on it === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.230.24] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:49] only ubuntu change is fixed upstream [11:51] ajmitch: Fine by me. I don't even remember why I was the last to touch it. :) [11:51] Oh, PAGE_SIZE. [11:51] Are you sure that's fixed in Debian? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@31.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:51] yeah, checked the changelog [11:51] Kay. [11:52] * Bug fix: "libselinux: FTBFS on powerpc (refers to PAGE_SIZE not [11:52] etc === heno [n=henrik@host-81-191-165-41.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo_ [n=egon@p54A67899.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt is flummoxed by "gpg: can't connect to `/home/mpt/.gnome2/seahorse-.../S.gpg-agent': Conection refused" === Spads [n=spacehob@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:11] StevenK, I'll push the code as soon as I find a solution to the gpg problem preventing me from committing === apokryphos [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:14] mpt: sounds like you have gpg configured to use an agent, but you don't have an agent running [12:14] unless seahorse does that itself in which case I have no idea [12:15] I use bzr commit with no trouble in my Launchpad branches [12:17] Keybuk: reportlab === kent [n=kent@82.145.136.38] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:18] mpt: Okay, cool. === Gman is now known as GmanZZZ === kent [n=kent@82.145.136.38] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:20] cjwatson: if i've got a package that has ftbfs in edgy, do i need to go thru the whole SRU policy to get a fix in? [12:20] (and it wasnt in dapper) === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:25] Hobbsee: yes, afraid so; talk to dholbach if it's universe, I don't know the policy there offhand === Czubek [n=Damian@82.160.179.10] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:26] cjwatson: Universe has a policy for SRU? :-P [12:26] cjwatson: okay. [12:26] StevenK: it's getting one. [12:26] StevenK: well, it ain't getting past ubuntu-archive without *some* kind of decision on one ... [12:27] cjwatson: Yeah, well, that's a point. [12:27] cjwatson: what, you mean that sweet talking doesnt work? :P === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:28] Hobbsee: you can always try bribing him with decent beer. [12:28] or indecent women [12:28] He'd probably want the beer warm, though. === StevenK ducks. [12:28] tfheen: hehe === Stephan_abroad [n=Stephan_@host217-44-44-85.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:31] mnepton: no way. === StevenK wonders if the dapper version of bzr will have any problems talking to the supermirror. === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shadok_ [n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === basanta [n=basanta@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fernando [n=fernando@gw.conab.gov.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dous [i=dous@ubuntu/member/dous] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:07] ah, now I remember why I dislike gnuplot [01:07] it's easy to draw 3D representations of the flow of air across a curved surface ... [01:07] ...yet it can't do a ruddy pie chart === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:07] pies are best out of the oven [01:11] Keybuk: reportlab! 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[01:29] <_ion> + [01:29] <_ion> Whoops. === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jonh_wendell [n=wendell@200165129048.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:33] how can i become a package maintainer? or i cant'? [01:33] jonh_wendell, go to #ubuntu-motu [01:33] jonh_wendell, you become a MOTU [01:33] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU [01:33] but the package is in main [01:34] i'm talking about rdesktop package [01:34] well, you will have to go through MOTU first [01:34] mdz / Kamion ping [01:34] nobody enters main directly [01:34] neither are here ;) [01:35] Mez: kamion is - cjwatson [01:35] but indeed you can work together with a main uploader who reviews your patches to get your stuff into main [01:35] Mez, he's incognito ... === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:35] why is everyone turning incognito now??? [01:35] cjwatson, ping ;) [01:35] Hobbsee: why not? its well deserved rest [01:36] because... [01:36] ogra: ok, latter i'll check this. Thanks [01:37] jonh_wendell, since i'll have to do some work with rdesktop in feisty for ltsp integration, feel free to ping me, i'll be likely touching it in feisty ... === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:38] ogra: actually i'd like to learn how that process works. rdesktop 1.5 is available in debian. What must be done in ubuntu? [01:38] nothing :) [01:39] it will get autosynced [01:39] autosynced? [01:39] Mez: what? [01:39]