[03:58] <nixternal> heh
[03:58] <nixternal> and what side of the moon would that be?
[03:58] <nixternal> the darkside?
[03:58] <Plug> THE DARK SIDE!
[03:58] <nixternal> hahaha
[03:58] <nixternal> i got you by 2 seconds Plug
[03:59] <Plug> ah, but you forget I'm at least 18 hours ahead of you anyway
[03:59] <nixternal> true
[03:59] <jsgotangco> nixternal: im having  a hard time balancing things lately
[03:59] <nixternal> 2 seconds lag
[03:59] <nixternal> jsgotangco: take a break then..nothing wrong with that...get stuff situated...only you know what you can do though ;)
[04:00] <jsgotangco> and prepare for vista
[04:00] <jsgotangco> muhahaha
[04:00] <nixternal> you are stil
[04:00] <nixternal> ok
[04:00] <nixternal> i was going to say something nice, but now i won't
[04:00] <nixternal> ;)
[04:00] <nixternal> i told you about the flyer that Microsoft sent Linux people in the Chicago area right?
[04:01] <jsgotangco> i will most likely continue contributing but in a very discreet space, bluetooth and PDAs
[04:01] <nixternal> hehe, go figure, you are addicted
[04:01] <jsgotangco> its something i know very well
[04:01] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:01] <nixternal> i can help along with PDA, as I have an old school one, but im sure that doesn't count
[04:01] <nixternal> actually..it is only like 4 years old ;)
[04:01] <jsgotangco> if its USB it counts
[04:01] <nixternal> it is usb
[04:02] <nixternal> it works like a champ with Kontact
[04:02] <nixternal> i just need to port email and i will be good
[04:02] <jsgotangco> i actually got my 3G connection running in my laptop via bluetooth
[04:02] <jsgotangco> its pretty hackish
[04:02] <jsgotangco> but imagine if you have an evdo account with verizon and use that with your laptop
[04:02] <nixternal> ya, i need some bluetooth toys
[04:07] <nixternal> you know..i could very well have some connections with some manufacturers still from my days as a hardware reviewer..maybe i can get a couple of companies to send me some toys so i can test them with Ubuntu
[04:15] <jsgotangco> nixternal: that would be great, the bluez stack is pretty stable and covers much everything though
[04:15] <nixternal> well, i have heard of people having issues with their bluetooth mice
[04:19] <jsgotangco> yeah it would be nice to test a lot of bt HID
[09:04] <mdke> outrageous
[09:08] <rob> totally.
[09:09] <Burgundavia> hey rob, mdke
[09:09] <rob> hiya Burgundavia, mdke 
[11:33] <mpt> Bring it on, Ubugtu 
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69650 in ubuntu-doc "Packaging Guide says "you a shell script"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69650
[07:34] <LjL> please check the changes i made to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine  -  i've seen many users get version mismatches due to enabling universe/multiverse in the "dapper" (or "edgy") repository, but not doing the same in the -updates and -security repositories. (crimsun in particular, see this, since we were talking about it)
[07:35] <LjL> i would hope enabling graphically in Synaptic or whatever takes care of this automatically, as well
[07:37] <Burgwork> LjL: looks good. Two comments: you have a lot of whitespace just before the next header
[07:38] <Burgwork> the other is that I would remove the two paragraph intro on repos
[07:38] <Burgwork> that shoudl go on the partent
[07:38] <Burgwork> oh, and recommend the people use the graphical method, if they can
[07:40] <LjL> Burgwork, the only part i changed is the "Adding the Universe and Multiverse Repositories" paragraph" - but ok, i'll see if i can shorten the intro, since there's already a dedicated page
[07:49] <LjL> Burgwork, see if it looks better now
[07:52] <Burgwork> LjL: looks good
[08:35] <mdke> Burgwork: do you already do some doc-list moderation?
[08:35] <LaserJock> how many moderators do we have?
[08:35] <LaserJock> I thought it was more then just jerome
[08:35] <LaserJock> but maybe I'm mistaken
[08:36] <mdke> LaserJock: I have the admin password, and I think Burg does too
[08:36] <Burgwork> mdke: no, no I don't
[08:36] <mdke> ah
[08:37] <nixternal> i can only imagine the doc list..i do chicago and marketing lists now..if help is needed though, i can step up and help
[08:37] <Burgwork> I will tak eit
[08:37] <nixternal> good, Burgwork said he would do it
[08:37] <mdke> I don't have much time for list moderation, if someone else is up for it, that's be good
[08:37] <Burgwork> nixternal: no, you are getting it as well
[08:37] <nixternal> lol
[08:37] <Burgwork> we need more than one person
[08:37] <nixternal> i can help you out 
[08:38] <Burgwork> given I already admin/moderate -users,-devel,-news, -ca and -directory
[08:39] <mdke> I'll set it up
[08:40] <mdke> I'll put you down as admins, can't be bothered with the separate moderator business. No funny stuff!
[08:40] <nixternal> lol
[08:40] <mdke> shall I use your LP preferred email addresses?
[08:41] <nixternal> yes
[08:41] <mdke> hmm, nixternal - your LP preferred email address is your @ubuntu.com address, does that work? I thought that wasn't possible
[08:42] <nixternal> that works
[08:42] <nixternal> i use it for everything "Ubuntu" related, on all the lists
[08:42] <mdke> must be a new feature
[08:42] <LaserJock> how do you remove a wiki page by URL? is it ?action=delete ?
[08:42] <nixternal> i have been doing it that way i think since june maybe
[08:42] <mdke> LaserJock: DeletePage I think
[08:42] <nixternal> LaserJock: using lynx?
[08:43] <LaserJock> mdke: with ?action= ?
[08:43] <mdke> yes
[08:43] <LaserJock> cool
[08:43] <mdke> nixternal: in the old days the LP preferred email address was used for the *target* of the redirect, so setting it as @ubuntu.com didn't work... guess they fixed that :)
[08:43] <nixternal> ahhh
[08:44] <mdke> Burgwork: should I use your preferred LP email for the ML?
[08:44] <Burgwork> yep
[08:44] <Burgwork> or corey.burger@ubuntu.com
[08:44] <LaserJock> how do they do the redirects now? manually?
[08:44] <mdke> I'll mail the passwords
[08:45] <nixternal> #redirect WikiPage/Subpage
[08:45] <nixternal> o
[08:45] <nixternal> or
[08:45] <LaserJock> no, for LP
[08:45] <nixternal> #refresh 0 http://url
[08:45] <nixternal> oh
[08:46] <mdke> LaserJock: no idea. Probably still in LP, but more sophisticated
[08:47] <LaserJock> actually, I don't think so
[08:47] <LaserJock> because I changed my preferred email
[08:48] <LaserJock> and I had to do an RT ticket to get it to actually work for the redirect
[08:50] <nixternal> all i did was add the ubuntu.com one, and then confirm it
[08:50] <nixternal> then set it to "default" i believe
[08:50] <mdke> LaserJock: using LP doesn't mean that it works automatically
[08:50] <LaserJock> heh
[08:50] <mdke> anyway, who knows
[08:53] <Burgwork> yay! FUD http://www.platinax.co.uk/news/01-11-2006/linux-distros-ubuntu-trustix-and-suse-accused-of-email-spam/
[08:55] <nixternal> are people that stupid that they can't unsubscribe?
[08:55] <nixternal> ;)
[08:55] <LaserJock> what the heck?
[08:55] <nixternal> i had problems myself getting back to my page where i can unsubscribe
[08:55] <nixternal> there is no direct links to do so
[08:55] <nixternal> but, if you are like me, and keep your registration emails, there is a link in there to do so ;)
[08:55] <LaserJock> in the original email there is
[08:56] <nixternal> i have a "Registrations" mail folder just for those
[08:56] <LaserJock> lists.ubuntu.com also has it
[08:56] <LaserJock> it's much harder to subscribe to the lists in the first place
[08:56] <nixternal> plus you can admin your setting via email as well
[08:57] <nixternal> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
[08:57] <nixternal> holy dumbarses...look at the bottom
[08:57] <nixternal> UNSUBSCRIBE BUTTON
[08:57] <nixternal> hehe
[08:58] <nixternal> comment 4 sets them straight..that was just a post to bring attention to that website i think
[08:58] <nixternal> actually, Collin is comment 4
[09:01] <Burgwork> I just posted my comment
[09:02] <nixternal> are you Yock?
[09:02] <Burgwork> no, the very last one
[09:03] <Burgwork> the man is whacked
[09:03] <nixternal> Yock is the very last one for me
[09:03] <LaserJock> me too
[09:03] <LaserJock> maybe Corey got moderated ;-)
[09:03] <nixternal> haha, he got owned that fast?
[09:05] <Burgwork> oh god I hate flash
[09:09] <nixternal> i would say the list edits were rather quick, as the bounces are coming already ;)
[09:09] <nixternal> go figure..that same guy on the chicago site, remove him to stop those bounces..he gave up on that account i think..i banned him on the chicago list
[09:18] <nixternal> would be nice if i could log in to moderate the list ;)
[09:19] <mdke> nixternal: bounces/
[09:19] <mdke> ?
[09:20] <nixternal> ya, they are the messages that bounce back because someones inbox is full
[09:20] <mdke> shit, let's turn that off
[09:20] <nixternal> well, don't turn off bounces, remove that guy..he is gone anyways
[09:20] <nixternal> he is from chicago
[09:21] <nixternal> bounces can be good from a spam standpoint as well
[09:21] <mdke> no, bounces suck
[09:21] <nixternal> lol
[09:22] <mdke> it still unsubscribes them automatically after a while anyway, right?
[09:23] <nixternal> it is supposed to, but it doesn't
[09:23] <nixternal> those bounces from that guy have been occurring for a couple of months now
[09:23] <mdke> it has a setting to specify how many bounces before you're out
[09:24] <nixternal> i have set that as well with the ubuntu-us-chicago list, and they were still occurring..i just shut it off..i will see what effect that has..so far none
[09:24] <mdke> oh well. it can keep bouncing eternally
[09:25] <nixternal> mdke: i have a hack for the Kubuntu Firefox-Homepage...it is named redirect.html and does exactly as the name implies..it redirects to the /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/index.html to fix the link breakage..it closes a bug, and i have done the packaging
[09:25] <nixternal> where should i put that in the doc svn?
[09:25] <mdke> that sounds like the wrong way to do it. Doesn't Riddell use symlinks?
[09:26] <mdke> did you discuss it with him?
[09:26] <nixternal> yes we do, but our homepage is the about kubuntu setup, and there are 4 links associated with it..the /etc/alternatives/firefox-homepage loads the index.html just fine, but the other html files are 404 when using the /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[09:26] <nixternal> yes, he has the debdiff now
[09:26] <mdke> fine, go ahead then
[09:27] <nixternal> this will be fixed in feisty, to run like eveyrone else does, and we will create a index.html
[09:28] <mdke> the whole alternatives system is pretty dodgy tbh, we have no good way to deal with derivative firefox start pages
[09:28] <nixternal> yes, and i want to do the same with Kubuntu instead of using the About Kubuntu pages for a start up page
[09:29] <nixternal> anywho..i will rock that out in a second...i need some food really bad
[09:29] <nixternal> i think i will make me a veggie wrap ;)
[09:30] <newz2000> mdke: ping - replacing help 6.06 content
[09:34] <newz2000> mdke: unping
[10:40] <LaserJock> has anybody been having problems with full text searchs on wiki.u.c?
[10:40] <LaserJock> I can't get it to do anything
[10:40] <nixternal> provide me with an example?
[10:41] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=chicago+meeting+in+october&titlesearch=Titles
[10:41] <nixternal> worked here, if that is what you mean
[10:41] <nixternal> haha, that was title, not text ;)
[10:43] <LaserJock> yeah, title works fine
[10:43] <LaserJock> text gives me nothing
[10:43] <LaserJock> it just sits there spinning its wheels
[10:43] <nixternal> text don't even go through..it has been spin
[10:43] <nixternal> ya
[10:44] <nixternal> heh, it worked
[10:44] <LaserJock> oh, now it worked
[10:44] <nixternal> just took fooooorrrrevvveer
[10:44] <nixternal> lol
[10:44] <nixternal> at the same time ey
[10:44] <LaserJock> I wonder if something was down
[10:45] <LaserJock> mine was spinning for longer then yours ;-)
[10:45] <nixternal> must have been
[10:45] <nixternal> oh ya, well my dog could eat your dog
[10:55] <LaserJock> now I get to fix my mess :/
[11:01] <LaserJock> bah