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| dg6e74 | can someone point me to the correct channel where i can get help with kubuntu networking | 01:34 |
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| infinity | dg6e74: I would assume either #kubuntu or #ubuntu | 01:39 |
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| BenC | infinity: 4.4 seems to be chugging along | 01:54 |
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| srwalter | so what's the story on bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63134 | 02:39 |
| BenC | srwalter: It will be addressed on the first -proposed kernel upload I do | 02:45 |
| BenC | but with feisty opening, and UDS next week, it wont be any time soon | 02:45 |
| srwalter | that's encouraging | 02:46 |
| srwalter | I may as well poke you about https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/57625 while I have your attention | 02:46 |
| BenC | infinity: yay, sparc and ppc built | 02:57 |
| BenC | srwalter: I'm more likely to update to the latest atmel driver than accept that patch | 02:58 |
| BenC | srwalter: Latest driver uses correct firmware loading and seems to better support current kernels | 02:58 |
| srwalter | that solves the bug just as well as my patch | 02:59 |
| BenC | srwalter: feisty has latest atmel in 2.6.19 if you want to test it | 03:00 |
| BenC | I can just backport from feisty | 03:00 |
| srwalter | sounds good | 03:01 |
| infinity | BenC: I saw. Thanks. :) | 03:06 |
| BenC | I'm just waiting got i386 to fail to spite me | 03:06 |
| infinity | Seems unlikely. | 03:07 |
| BenC | infinity: I wont hide it either, I added "sparc64" to prefix the make-kpkg commands to fix sparc | 03:07 |
| infinity | Anyhow, even if it does, it doesn't matter for the toolchain bootstrap, since we already have a linux-libc-dev from 2.6.19 on i386. | 03:07 |
| BenC | I'll figure it out later when you guys aren't blocking on me | 03:07 |
| infinity | BenC: Yeah, I saw the fix. :) | 03:07 |
| infinity | BenC: Better a dirty hack than being blocked so, yes, thanks again. :) | 03:07 |
| BenC | one week into feisty, and I'm already at abi 4 :) | 03:08 |
| infinity | Should have been using a magic 0.X scheme for "effin' broken ABI, don't count on it working" or something. :) | 03:11 |
| infinity | (Still could, since nothing yet depends on the ABI) | 03:12 |
| infinity | Then you could go back to 1, 2, 3, 4 again later. :) | 03:12 |
| BenC | yeah, would require logic changes all in the build setup though | 03:12 |
| BenC | I've already had to close two bug reports on 2.6.19 because people expect it to work every already, even though it's known that a lot of external modules are still missing | 03:13 |
| infinity | Yeah, s'pose so. Though using 0.X for test kernels would mean that we wouldn't have to shove every new kernel upload through NEW. :) | 03:13 |
| BenC | good point | 03:13 |
| infinity | Something to think about for feisty+1's kernel, perhaps. | 03:14 |
| BenC | I'm tracking ABI now, since we'll have built ABI files on all arches this time | 03:14 |
| BenC | the mad-patch-rush in 2.6.19 git is over, so there wont be huge sweeping changes | 03:14 |
| infinity | Excellent. | 03:15 |
| infinity | Alright, I'm off to run some pre-UDS errands. | 03:15 |
| infinity | Have about 5 days of "real life" and another 5 days of ork to attend to in the next... 2.5 days. Should prove interesting. | 03:15 |
| infinity | s/ork/work/ | 03:15 |
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| test | where can I get 2.6.19? I want to use it for bootstrapping mondoarchive . Mondo archive is a backup my workstation to dvd or other media. | 04:44 |
| BenC | test: It's in feisty, but I wouldn't suggest using it | 04:48 |
| test | let me tell you the deal here. I'm on a deadline delivering 1500+ ubuntu desktop pc's. | 04:49 |
| test | I'm in the final stages, which is creating a recovery cd. 2.6.17 generic is crashing on my via chipsets | 04:50 |
| test | so I used the workarround to boot it, however, when mondoarchive is creating the filesystems and is about to recover the data the kernel says the machine runs out of mem. | 04:51 |
| test | this 2.6.17 generic just doesn't feel right with this via chipset. | 04:52 |
| crimsun | does 2.6.15 not work? | 04:52 |
| test | 2.6.15 is not availble in edgy repositorys as far as i know. | 04:52 |
| crimsun | right, I mean "using Dapper" | 04:52 |
| crimsun | if you're rolling out 1500+ desktops, I'd think that an LTS release is the more likely choice | 04:53 |
| test | we use software that only works correct on edgy, for example the oem-config-prepare and some systems contain sis chipsets, and the 2.6.15 doesn't work with the sis audo chipset. | 04:54 |
| test | so I'm stuck with 2.6.17. | 04:54 |
| crimsun | audo or audio? | 04:54 |
| test | audio | 04:54 |
| crimsun | what in particular? | 04:54 |
| crimsun | dapper and edgy have nearly identical alsa | 04:54 |
| crimsun | there are only a handful of differences (across isa and older pci drivers) | 04:55 |
| crimsun | (don't pay any attention to the alsa version string) | 04:55 |
| test | sis964 if i'm not mistaking | 04:55 |
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| test | hmm. let me see what the 2.6.15 can achieve | 04:56 |
| BenC | I have to agree with crimsun...rolling out that many, I suspect you want dapper | 04:58 |
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| test | re-installing and re-configuring everything, is going to take to much time... | 04:59 |
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| test | about te toest 2.6.15-27-6868 | 05:19 |
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| hughsie | BenC: why is 2.6.19rc4 only useful for bootstrapping? | 07:05 |
| hughsie | I want to do some OLPC work... | 07:05 |
| fabbione | hughsie: totally untested, not finished, missing a lot of stuff from edgy | 07:06 |
| mjg59_ | It's there so we can bootstrap glibc and so on | 07:06 |
| hughsie | fabbione: you mean it might boot, but my wireless wont work, or it just wont boot? | 07:06 |
| mjg59_ | Once they're sorted, we'll be looking at doing a proper upload | 07:06 |
| fabbione | without which we can't do what mjg59_ wrote and open feisty | 07:06 |
| mjg59_ | Ought to boot. Ought to support a compilation environment. Beyond that, you're on your own | 07:06 |
| hughsie | mjg59_: ahh, gotcha | 07:07 |
| fabbione | hughsie: it might eat your data, it might boot and work wonderful.. you are on your own | 07:07 |
| hughsie | when is feisty going to see some kernel upload lovin'? | 07:07 |
| hughsie | days/weeks? | 07:07 |
| hughsie | i.e. do i go compile my own kernel.org kernel.... :-) | 07:08 |
| fabbione | we usually delay 2 weeks each time somebody come here and ask | 07:08 |
| fabbione | so we are about at mid January now | 07:08 |
| zul | lol | 07:08 |
| hughsie | fabbione: lol, thanks. :-) | 07:08 |
| fabbione | hughsie: when we are ready there will be a kernel | 07:08 |
| fabbione | and it will become the default automatically | 07:08 |
| hughsie | fabbione: that's what my mother used to say, well, replace kernel with "cake" | 07:09 |
| fabbione | (assuming you are upgrading from edgy and you have the meta packages installed) | 07:09 |
| hughsie | sure, i'm guessing feisty is pretty empty now | 07:09 |
| fabbione | food time | 07:09 |
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| hughsie | but the kernel in edgy is just too old to work with the olpc patches | 07:09 |
| hughsie | i might have to fire up fedora.... :-) | 07:10 |
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| pitti | Hi | 10:04 |
| pitti | zul, BenC: do you have time for another kernel security update? | 10:05 |
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