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scotthi, can anyone help me? i cant seem to apt-get remove gmediaserver, and error comes up about dpkg saying that invoking gmediaserver stop failed, (ive tried running command it says it stopped but sitll wont remove it), any way to force remove it?12:01
Akebono89dmesg has a bunch of "device not accepting address7, error -110" type messages12:01
blazemongercrass: true12:01
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AbstI tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it didnt work12:01
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Davieyphanter, If you prefer GUI's.  This might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21611712:02
blazemongerthat is where gentoo is beating ubuntu..if ubuntu were to install all of the dev requirements it would abolish redhat and mandriva12:02
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Tateygentoo isnt beating anyone12:02
phanterDaviey: I have no X running.. and I prefer to have no X running :)12:02
iterhaha gentoo is too busy recompiling to do much else12:02
AlReece45In edgy, will sounds directed to alsa or does it use oss drivers for it?12:02
Davieyphanter, fury muff12:02
phanterDaviey: maybe you have experience using it in the console12:02
blazemongerthe only thing i dont like about linux are the window managers..i want something more along the interface of amiga workbench12:02
Akebono89is this thing on?12:02
TGPOGentoo -- Linux for the OCD12:03
AbstDaviey: Nothing has worked yet12:03
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mabushow do i get ubuntu to give me the grub menu when it boots up12:03
phanter!fury muff12:03
mabusinstead of doing the default without prompt12:03
cratel-1I upgraded from dapper to edgy just to get a print server working but still no dice. This is getting very old...12:03
Davieyphanter, What have you actually done in the lvm process.  You have installed the package?12:03
TGPOmabus you can change that in the menu.list in /boot12:03
blazemongerthat's the beauty of linux though..if i learned a descent amount of c/c++ i could develop my own window manager12:03
AlReece45iter: too much compiling... ha, only compiled 7 programs/drivers and a kernel so far here, that was just to get everything working, thats because a few wouldn't compile12:03
AbstDaviey: Also between the nVidia conf and usual conf there is nothing different but device names and resoloutions12:03
mabusTGPO: no, I need like a key sequence on boot or something12:03
mabusTGPO: I need to get into rescue mode12:03
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cratel-1does anybody have a working print server cupsd.conf file for edgy?12:04
scottany way to force remove a package that wont remove? (and wont now let me install any either due to it beign stuck in a loop that it cant remove the package), tried -f but still doesnt work12:04
mabusTGPO: ah, esc in like, 2 seconds of time, I got it12:04
mabusnot much of a window..12:04
DavieyAbst, If they are identical.  i really don't think it's something your doing.  Maybe the packaged driver doesn't like your card.  Personally i would try installing the driver from source12:04
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phanterDaviey: yes... I also did the pvcreate comand on both disk...12:04
kandinskiblazemonger, if you learned a decent amount of c/c++ you could develop a new shell for windows too. People do. And you already have AmiWM12:04
Abst Daviey Isn't the driver binary only?12:05
blazemongercrass:wouldn't it be neat if Ubuntu installed ALL of the dev requirements12:05
frederick85what's the package name for apache , mysql and PHP12:05
Davieyscott, have you tried purge12:05
scottno12:05
scottis that dpkg?12:05
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kandinskiblazemonger: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~marcus/amiwm.html12:05
phanterDaviey: when looking with fdisk (linux version of course) then it is a lvm partition (of whatever you call those things)12:05
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DavieyAbst, sorry it is - but it will probably be a newer version12:05
scottpurge didnt work, same error :(12:05
phanterbut now I have to format then with ext3, but I do not understand how12:05
AbstDaviey: Anyway, thanks. Shower now12:05
Davieyphanter, what about a pvscan12:05
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DavieyAbst, good luck12:06
scottsays a pre-removal script has failed :(12:06
kandinskiblazemonger: be scared, be very scared ;)12:06
frederick85what's the package name for apache , mysql and PHP12:06
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blazemongerkandinski: you rule!!!12:06
phanterDaviey: pvscan returns this: No matching physical volumes found12:06
kandinskigoogle does. I just open the tap.12:06
blazemongerthis is great..since i don't like gnome OR kde12:06
mcsmurflamp normally12:06
mcsmurf;)12:06
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nikinhy12:06
Vladazare there any software that would have albums library such as winamp to listen to mp3?12:06
blazemongeri want to make a live cd distro that has nothing but amiga stuff12:06
xingi'm having difficulties setting up mysql on a debian server install. during installation i picked the LAMP option and when i /etc/init.d/mysql start, i get an error saying: mysqld got signal 4;12:06
lazzarethThis is my 3rd Attempt to install edgy Eft on my desktop pc, On fresh new partitions .. but i constantly get an ERROR 17: from grub when trying to boot the installed OS12:06
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phanterDaviey: but when I do pvcreate /dev/hda3 it returns: Device /hda3 not found (or ignored by filtering).12:07
Vladazfor ubuntu gnome?12:07
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blazemongerthat's how much of a amiga fanatic I am12:07
Davieyphanter, sounds like it didn't correctly create it then12:07
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kandinskiblazemonger: this is an 8 year old WM12:07
LjLblazemonger: there's amithlon already.12:07
phanterDaviey: so how do I delete them and recreate them in the correct way (because I did follow the guides)12:07
blazemongerone thing that came naturally to me when i installed linux was the scripting stuff12:07
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blazemongerwhat's that12:08
blazemongerwhat's amithlon?12:08
btb103so i'm trying to install ubuntu on my new AMD64 system and i can only get as far as it booting into x-windows and failing because it is "configured incorrectly" - the log file seems to show that my x850xt is being detected but then a fatal error occurs and it takes me to a command line prompt12:08
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Davieyphanter, when you fdisked it.  Did you create a primary partition?12:08
AlReece45My sound works, but Open Sound System doesn't output or locks up. How can I get OSS or OSS emulation working?12:08
LjLblazemonger: a very optimized amiga emulator tangled with a customized linux kernel, that boots up like a PC operating system.12:08
LjLnot free software.12:08
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Davieyphanter, if i remember correctly the type of the partition should be '8e' aswell12:08
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nikini have a big Question :D , i want a terminal based network i have 6 P2 300 -s with 128MB of RAM and i want them to run some office programs, a browser and email... so i was thinking installing a server, and then doing something like remote login, to run the programs on the server.12:09
blazemongerLjL: mm..i want to develop my own12:09
blazemongerbut one that's free12:09
phanterDaviey: yes, and I formatted with 8E (Linux LVM)12:09
nikinfirst question: can that be made?12:09
btb103so i'm trying to install ubuntu on my new AMD64 system and i can only get as far as it booting into x-windows and failing because it is "configured incorrectly" - the log file seems to show that my x850xt is being detected but then a fatal error occurs and it takes me to a command line prompt12:09
LjLblazemonger: hardly can be, since the Kickstart ROMs are copyrighted. have a look at http://www.aros.org maybe12:09
pkhcan someone tell me what the apt-??? command is to reconfigure my xorg.conf?12:09
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Davieyphanter, okay pvcreate /dev/hda3 defiently does not work?12:09
nikinsecond is: if yes then what package(s) i need for that12:10
LjLpkh: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:10
pkhLjL, thanks12:10
nikinthird is: do you know any tutorial describing something like that12:10
IcooHello people...has anyone here a Broadcom 4311 wireless card and got it to work?12:10
blazemongerbeing stoned and using ubuntu is fun12:10
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blazemongerit's the stoner-friendly os heh12:10
Davieyphanter, presumably you are doing that as root/sudo?12:10
phanterDaviey: I do not understand, because I did that already before, but now it returns:  Physical volume "/dev/hda3" successfully created12:10
phanterDaviey: sudo :)12:11
blazemongercan a window manager be coded using python?12:11
Davieyphanter, Crazy!12:11
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nikinBlaze: yup12:11
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Davieyphanter, then do vgcreate vg /dev/hda312:11
rbilnikin: see this ... it's an interesting way to do what you want ... http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html12:11
nikinthere is one made alredy :D12:11
TGPOblazemonger google around there prolly already ie12:11
Davieyphanter, vg = name of volume group.  I always use 'vg'12:11
blazemongernikin ; since i have ideas for a window manager but make it recreational drug friendly lol12:12
AlReece45Icoo, yes, unless you want the slower open source drivers (doesn't support high speeds), compile ndiswrapper 1.23 and use the windows driver12:12
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nikinrbil: ty12:12
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phanterDaviey: now I get the error I always get :(: No physical volume label read from /dev/hda3 \\ /dev/hda3 not identified as an existing physical volume \\ Unable to add physical volume '/dev/hda3' to volume group 'vg'.12:12
phanterDaviey: and \\ is a new line12:12
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rambo3blazemonger, go #ubuntu-offtopic12:13
blazemongercrass: is there a way to have all of the development requirements installeed on ubuntu?12:13
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notwisthow do i make nautilus not open a new window for each time i go deeper in the file system? i want it like before, with buttons at the top symbolizing each folder :(12:13
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blazemongerit's like alot of the dev stuff is spread out and not in one place12:13
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Davieyphanter, what does 'sudo pvdisplay' return12:13
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phanterDaviey: it returns: PV Name               /dev/evms/hda312:14
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cratel-1how do I generate a certificate in the ssl directory of cups?12:14
IcooAlReece45: can you pm me for a sec12:14
phanterDaviey: and it returns: Allocatable           NO12:14
Epidemikhow do you forcequit?12:14
Davieyphanter, evms?!12:14
btb103so i'm trying to install ubuntu on my new AMD64 system and i can only get as far as it booting into x-windows and failing because it is "configured incorrectly" - the log file seems to show that my x850xt is being detected but then a fatal error occurs and it takes me to a command line prompt12:14
phanterDaviey: It is what it says, I just copy-paste12:15
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Epidemikhow do you forcequit? or see a list of running processs?12:15
Davieyphanter, never heard of evms.  What happens if you  'vgcreate vg /dev/evms/hda3'12:15
AlReece45Icoo: did you get it or am I still having trouble with PM?12:15
phanterDaviey: sudo vgcreate vg /dev/evms/hda3 \\  Volume group "vg" successfully created12:15
shivWhats wrong with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29622/ I get 0x7 error when trying to load windows from grub. Please help12:15
Davieyphanter, wooohhhoooo!12:15
cpl-tnt44how do i change the keyboard layout ? what is the accelerator button in linux ?12:15
rambo3!fixres > btb10312:15
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Daviey!evms12:15
phanterDaviey: so that works.... and what to do now? I still have no usefull volume right?12:15
ubotuevms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.5-15 (edgy), package size 84 kB, installed size 304 kB12:15
rambo3btb103, send more info about error12:16
notwisthow do i make nautilus not open a new window for each time i go deeper in the file system? i want it like before, with buttons at the top symbolizing each folder :(12:16
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youssefhello  I just got a new blekin wireless N1  802.11n card  does anybody know how to get it to work under ubuntu ???12:16
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btb103hm i don't have info right now, i will go home and do that from my friend's lappy though12:16
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IcooAlReece45: I'm waiting on PM12:16
rambo3ok read what ubotu told you12:16
Davieyphanter, now all you have to do is mkdir /mnt/xxx and then mount!12:16
IcooAlReece45: but I got the "Hello" ;-)12:16
btb103thanks for that :)12:16
TGPOyoussef apt-get fwcutter and then follow the man page12:17
phanterDaviey: but there is no filesystem on it yet.. is there?12:17
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AlReece45Icoo: oh ;P12:17
cratel-1anybody know anything about network printing?12:17
LjL!anybody12:17
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:17
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IcooAlReece45: well we can also chat here, what laptop do you have12:17
nikincratel: if you have driver for Linux then CUPS and SAMBA will do the job.12:17
Davieyphanter, forgot another stage 'vgdisplay vg | grep "Total PE"'12:17
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rambo3!doesn't work12:17
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.12:17
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AlReece45Icoo: Compaq Presario v603012:18
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cratel-1nikin I've tried all that...in dapper and now edgy. If you know something more than referring me to the sites ubotu mentions, could you help me?12:18
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salimhi, how do I get to know what my FSB of my CPU is?12:18
eXistenZsalim, Read the specs!12:18
Davieyphanter, then what that returns type lvcreate -l 99999 vg -n (where 9999 = what prev command returned)12:18
phanterDaviey: returns: Total PE              12401    ... what does that mean?12:18
nikincartel: maybe... tell me the exact situation12:18
IcooAlReece45: well we seem to be under the same hood I have a HP NX7400...do you run Edgy?12:18
salimmine doesnt has any12:18
youssef<TGPO>  i tried it  it  didn12:19
salimisnt there any code?12:19
TGPOsalim spend some time reading the output of 'lshal'12:19
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Davieyphanter, so lvcreate -l 912401 vg -n storage12:19
cpl-tnt44how do i switch between languages in the keyboard layout on ubuntu (on windows its Alt+Shift)...???12:19
AlReece45Icoo: yes12:19
Argaelyop =)12:19
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TGPOyoussef thats the first time I have ever met a typing stutterer, care to try again?12:19
Davieyphanter, where storage = name12:19
Epidemikhow do you forcequit? or see a list of running processs?12:19
cratel-1!cups12:20
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows12:20
TGPOEpidemic ps -aux12:20
salimany greps?12:20
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youssef<TGPO>  i tried it  it  didn't work  lol12:20
cpl-tnt44how do i switch between languages in the keyboard layout on ubuntu (on windows its Alt+Shift)...???12:20
IcooAlReece45: well my problem is that Edgy recognized the card right away after install, and I could see it in networking but when I type lspci it still says unknown device 431112:20
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n1gkeEpidemik, in a terminal use ps ax12:20
youssef<TGPO>  E: Invalid operation fwcutter12:20
IcooAlReece45: Didi edgy didi the same on your side?12:20
cpl-tnt44can some 1 plz ? ^^^12:20
TGPOyoussef enable universal in your repository and try apt-getting it again12:20
Davieyphanter, do you want the filesystem to be ext3?12:20
AlReece45Icoo: Well, yes, but as it's working right now it says the same thing still.12:21
phanterDaviey: It does not work and returns: sudo lvcreate -l 912401 vg -n datalvm \\   /dev/dvd: open failed: Read-only file system  \\  Insufficient free extents (12401) in volume group vg: 912401 requir12:21
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rambo3salim fsb is memory clock speed of  cpu?12:21
godmasterfrench here?12:21
phanterDaviey: yes ext3 is the best I think12:21
LjL!fr12:21
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:21
cratel-1who updates ubotu? It gives me links for Breezy.12:21
salimi dunno12:21
Davieyphanter, remove the leading 912:21
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godmasterfrench here?12:21
Davieyphanter, my mistake12:21
IcooAlReece45: Well I'm happy if it's working, did you use soem guide, could you point me to it12:21
LjL!fr | godmaster12:21
ubotugodmaster: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:21
cpl-tnt44anyone know how do i switch between languages in the keyboard layout on ubuntu (on windows its Alt+Shift)...???12:21
cpl-tnt44israelis anyone ?12:21
LjL!il12:21
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IcooAlReece45: or if you have some spare tiem give me a few instructions?12:22
Epidemikwhen is ubuntu 6.10 comming? i thought it was due the 25th12:22
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uknowndouche /server irc.efnet.net12:22
LjLEpidemik: 26th. and it's out12:23
DavieyEpidemik, it's out - called edgy12:23
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Epidemikoo12:23
rambo3Epidemik, tomorow12:23
AlReece45Icoo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1586159&postcount=35 tell me if/when you have problems with it b/c It doesn't seem to help many people12:23
rbilEpidemik: came and went12:23
Epidemikhow do i update12:23
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Epidemiko... im confused so it went away?12:23
Epidemikwhy?12:23
LjLUbotu, please tell Epidemik about upgrade12:23
phanterDaviey: hmmm... and do you know what went wrong... I am checking the man page, but I do not yet see the mistake12:23
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IcooAlReece45: where did you get the win drivers?12:23
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EpidemikUbotu, please tell Ljl Thankyou12:23
Epidemik:)12:23
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Davieyphanter, did you remove the leading 9?12:23
cpl-tnt44anyone know how do i switch between languages in the keyboard layout on ubuntu (on windows its Alt+Shift)...???12:23
Epidemikso is the update out or not?12:23
rbilEpidemik: alot of people who upgraded found their systems went away. I'd wait before jumping in to update12:24
Epidemikcause today is the 20th12:24
cpl-tnt44israelis anyone ?12:24
Davieyphanter, so "sudo lvcreate -l 12401 vg -n datalvm"12:24
LjLEpidemik: yes it is... today is what?12:24
Epidemik31st i meant12:24
Epidemikhehe12:24
LjLah. well it's 1th november here, but anyway, yes, it came out on 26th12:24
Epidemikso wait before updateing? im new to linux12:24
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Epidemikhow long should i wait12:24
LjLEpidemik, if your Dapper is working well, you shouldn't have a reason to upgrade. Dapper has the advantage of long term support also.12:24
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cpl-tnt44anyone know how do i switch between languages in the keyboard layout on ubuntu (on windows its Alt+Shift)...???12:25
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LjL!repeat | cpl-tnt4412:25
ubotucpl-tnt44: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience12:25
phanterDaviey: better news it gives now: "/dev/dvd: open failed: Read-only file system \\  Logical volume "datalvm" created", but what about the dvd thingie?12:25
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EpidemikLjl, arent theyre new features in the upgrade?12:25
cratel-1how do you generate ssl certificates?12:25
cratel-1!ssl12:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ssl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:25
LjLEpidemik: i guess a few. depends if you're interested in them, though.12:25
rbilEpidemik: keep you eye around here, and when peeps stop asking for help because they upgraded and now their systems are screwed, you'll know it is ok :-)12:25
AlReece45Icoo: hp.com, they make you dl an exe, but all it does in extract stuff.12:25
CombatjuanHow does one use /dev/null and indirection to empty a file?12:25
cpl-tnt44ubotu thanks ill look into it ...12:25
cratel-1!certificates12:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about certificates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:25
nikinpcl: CTRL+SPACE  .. try12:25
cratel-1!certificate12:25
LjL!fishing12:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about certificate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:26
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)12:26
Davieyphanter, not sure why it is probing dvd.  what does sudo lvdisplay return12:26
Jack``not french?12:26
IcooAlReece45: got them, do I only need the inf file or others to?12:26
cpl-tnt44ubotu it seems like a simple command that anyone should know ..12:26
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cpl-tnt44!patience12:26
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:26
Epidemikokay thanks for the info guys12:26
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LjLcpl-tnt44: well, i don't know it, because i'm running KDE. if someone else knows, i suppose they'd tell you12:26
nikincpl-tnt44 : did it work?12:26
AlReece45Icoo: you need bcmwl5.sys too12:26
Kannixcpl-tnt44: Did you check out system - preferences - keyboard already?12:26
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rbilI'd say most of the people in this channel are lurkers or haven't figured out how to disconnect from irc12:26
CombatjuanDoes anyone know if there a way to empty a text file without deleting it?12:26
IcooAlReece45: ok one more....this guide is for dapper, did you modified the steps for edgy?12:27
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LjLCombatjuan: try shred12:27
phanterDaviey: oke, now I also have a whole disk /dev/hdc to add to the lvm module... will you help me with that as well?12:27
CombatjuanI know it would be trivial to open it with vi and ":g/^/d"12:27
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rambo3Combatjuan, you mean truncate12:27
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cbx33Hi guys just put a sound card into my edgy machine....and now the system is really really laggy, but with no visible processes running....IRQ conflict?12:27
AlReece45Icoo, in reality I did it on edgy (shh)12:27
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Davieyphanter, hmm.. thats pretty much the same as b412:28
JestreCombatjuan: echo '' > filename12:28
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phanterDaviey: I see, I will try and get back if it does not work :012:28
IcooAlReece45: in reality??? what do you mean?12:28
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Davieyphanter, take it to chat?12:28
cbx33in that it is effecting the mouse and keyboard12:28
nikinCombatjua: owerwrite it with an empty file12:28
phanterDaviey: it will be mainly the part where I add it to the already created lvm12:28
CombatjuanLjL: I don't think that's quite a want but it is interesting.  Thanks.12:28
cbx33but running a top command shows nothing12:28
AlReece45Icoo, I did it on Edgy, but there was no reason it shouldn't have worked on dapper.12:28
AskHLHello, I would like to install Xubuntu Eft on my Xubuntu Dapper computer. However I have heard bad things about the upgrade, so I want to use a CD. How, is there any way of installing it such that the / and /home mount points (which are different HD drives) are identical to those before, but such that at least the content of /home is preserved?12:28
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Combatjuanniking, ramobo3, JEstre:  Thanks.12:28
AlReece45Icoo, make sure to compile ndiswrapper from source, the one in repositories didnt work for me.12:29
cpl-tnt44Kannix , yes . but i cant switch to hebrew mode for exsample in windows its alt+shift .12:29
CombatjuanYay.  I butchered everyone's name.12:29
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AskHLType How -> Now12:29
IcooAlReece45: well for me it's important that it worked on the new Edgy one 6.1012:29
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|rt|anyone have any recommendations for rss readers?12:29
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nikinAskHL: manualy partitiopning is good for that12:29
Davieyphanter, do pvcreate -M1 /dev/hdcX (or if it returns device not found use -M2)12:29
nikinjust select the one containing /home not to be formated just mounted12:29
TGPO|rt| firefox does it right out of the box12:30
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cynicalAskHL: If you put an edgy cd in a computer with dapper installed, it actually lets you upgrade from that12:30
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|rt|TGPO: yes but it doesn't archive items so things scroll off the list on active rss feeds12:30
AlReece45Icoo: well it worked for me on Edgy (I made the guide while on edgy)12:30
AskHLThank you nikin12:30
eegoreIs there any compelling reason to upgrade to Edgy  now that it has been released?12:30
cynicalno12:30
IcooAlReece45: OK I'm going to do it now, I will tell you if it worked12:30
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Davieyphanter, are you still following?12:30
Kannixcpl-tnt44: right click into a toolbar, click on "add to panel", chose "utilities, keyboard indicator".12:30
eegorecynical: thanks for the info12:31
jattHmmm.... dash complains about the following construct12:31
jatt   if [ "${PPP_IPPARAM}" == "vpn_tunnel" ] ;12:31
jattwith the following error message12:31
jatt   [: 9: ==: unexpected operator12:31
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phanterDaviey: yes I am, it is working up till now (after you before-last comment :))12:31
TGPOeegore yes, its the lemming principal, every ELSE is doing it ... near a bridge too :)12:31
cynicaleegore: np12:31
AskHLcynical, that upgrade process -- will it be more stable than upgrading via the package managers? As I said, I've heard bad things about non-fresh installs so it would be best if it's a fresh install12:31
Intangirwhats a good port scanning application?12:31
WilsonI have read the wiki on ubuntu but i still cannot figure out how to set it up as an ftp server12:31
jattwhy? bash handles the if condition fine...12:31
IntangirWilson: get proftpd12:31
eegoreI may try is for my fourth 64 bit boot12:31
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cpl-tnt44Kannix , Thanks that would help .. but i asked for the keyboard shortcut (like Alt+shift in windows ) , maybe i can build a key shortcut ?12:32
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Davieyphanter, so you have pvcreated the next drive?12:32
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blazemongerAre there any other linux distros similar to Ubuntu12:32
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cynicalAskHL: yes since you dont have to download anything. But personally I havent run into any problems upgrading from the net. But just to be safe backup your home directory so nothing can go wrong12:32
phanterDaviey: Now I get this error: sudo vgcreate vg2 /dev/evms/hdc1  \\  Physical volume /dev/evms/hdc1 is of different format type (lvm1)  \\  Unable to add physical volume '/dev/evms/hdc1' to volume group 'vg2'.12:32
WilsonIs it a pakage i can download or do i need to torrent it?12:32
|rt|Intangir: nmap12:32
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IntangirWilson: its a package12:32
eegoreI seldom like to try anything bleeding edge for my production boot12:32
Wilsonthank you man12:32
phanterDaviey: yes, the pvcreate worked12:32
TGPOblazemonger debian, its what ubuntu is based off of12:32
LjLUbotu, please tell LeeJunFan_away about away12:32
IntangirWilson: you will have to add all the other repositories though12:32
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AskHLcynical, thank you very much. I'm already copying it :)12:32
Tateyany idea on why the /dev/mdX nodes aren't being created?12:32
blazemongerTGPO: i kno12:32
Davieyphanter, you want two volume groups?  if you want one.. use vgextend12:32
Tateyon my system12:33
blazemongerbut are there any ubuntu based distros12:33
cynicalAsKHL: np :D12:33
Wilson????Repositories12:33
IntangirWilson: in synaptic goto the repositories option , and check on a bunch of those repos12:33
blazemongerhow do you make your own live cd distro like for specific tasks12:33
IntangirWilson: then refresh, then search for proftpd12:33
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phanterDaviey: one volume group... so now i do: sudo vgextend vg /dev/evms/hdc1  ???12:33
Wilsonok lemme take my laptop to my ubuntu machine12:33
IcooAlReece45: and the first problem...Ndiswrapper is now 1.28 (October 29 2006) but I need the 1.23 one (I guess) because in the guide it said that 1.25 didn't worked...where can i get 1.2312:33
Davieyphanter, yes12:33
TGPOblazemonger xubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, flubuntu (I think is officially released)12:33
cpl-tnt44Kannix , Thanks that would help .. but i asked for the keyboard shortcut (like Alt+shift in windows ) , maybe i can build a key shortcut ?12:33
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nikini ame installing Dapper Server. what packages i need to run an Xserver with Windowmaker or IceWM?12:34
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IcooAlReece45: found it12:34
phanterDaviey: I again get the error: Physical volume /dev/evms/hdc1 is of different format type (lvm1)  \\  Unable to add physical volume '/dev/evms/hdc1' to volume group 'vg'.12:34
cpl-tnt44how do i upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 ? and if its recommanded ?12:34
phanterDaviey: do you know what that means ?12:34
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blazemongeryou can download a server version and make a customized ubuntu?12:34
AlReece45Icoo:http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93482&package_id=9914812:34
AlReece45Icoo: ehh12:34
cens0redhow do I check what apps are using what ports?12:34
TGPOnikin xorg xorg-server-core and then whatever WM you want12:34
nikinTGPO: ty12:34
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morgueWhy am I not getting "set as wallpaper" on firefox when I right click on pictures?12:35
phanterDaviey: is it not formatted in the right way (lvm2 or something)12:35
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withaYhow can you associate a protocol in gnome?  for instance, a page in firfox has a url of stuff://things.com and i want to associate the stuff:// protocol to an app.12:35
blazemongerthe one difference i've noticed is some packages in debian are more stable12:35
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Davieyphanter, could be lvm1 & 2 are different.  As a side note, are you going over 256gig?12:35
Kannixcpl-tnt44: well, browse through the options in "gconf-editor".12:35
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rbilcens0red: cat /etc/services12:35
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blazemongerwhat is lvm?12:35
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TGPOblazemonger you bet, ubuntu doesnt test as stringently as debian12:35
phanterDaviey: no, just 150 gig12:35
Wilsonok and with this i can create usernames for the FTP?12:36
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Davieyphanter, good.  It's 23:36 here so i can't hang around much longer.12:36
cens0redport 5699 is in use by another program. How do I check what's using it?12:36
phanterDaviey: but yes, the otehr partition was in lvm2, how come I have different lvm versions there :s12:36
Intangirsome clown has been trying to log into me as root for weeks12:36
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Intangiri just checked my logs and noticed ;)12:36
Wilsonlol12:36
phanterDaviey: I understand... I will try a bit more and go to bed as well12:36
Intangirand i think i have root logons disabled all together12:36
Intangirso he has absolutely no chance of getting in12:37
ChousukeIntangir: I get that a lot too :P12:37
ChousukeIntangir: with random usernames too12:37
Chousukeit's common I suppose.12:37
Intangirt12:37
Intangiroops12:37
morgueHi, I have a logitech webcam which has a microphone, on Skype it's working but when I try to record something using Ubuntu Sound Recorder all I get is silence... any suggestions?12:37
Intangirya i just read an article on digg about securing ssh12:37
Intangirand decided to have a look ;)12:37
ChousukeI don't even keep SSH on all the time :P12:38
withaYIntangir and Chousuke, through ssh they're trying to log in?12:38
ChousukewithaY: yes.12:38
Davieyphanter, not sure.  Can we get this single lvm part finished? you need to create the filesystem.  Use this "mke2fs -j -O sparse_super -m0 -i8000000 -L NAMEOFSTORAGE /dev/vg/storage12:38
IcooAlReece45: problem...I downloaded the surce, untared it, got into the folder via terminal, typed make (worked fine), then I typed install and it says Install: missing file operand12:38
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Wilsonintangir! With this ftp setup can i add username and login for people or is it just 1?12:38
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lollanHi I am looking for a .deb for the software IDEA (java IDE)12:38
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ianmacgregor!idea12:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about idea - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:39
Davieyphanter, not sure.  Can we get this single lvm part finished? you need to create the filesystem.  Use this to create ext3 "mke2fs -j -O sparse_super -m0 -i8000000 -L datalvm /dev/vg/datalvm"12:39
IntangirWilson: with that ftp , you just add users to your linux box, and they automatically get to ftp to their home12:39
phanterDaviey: hmm, I will first play around to get the second disk in it as well... then I will sleep and see about the fs tomorrow... That way you go to bed without feeling bad (LOL) and I can go to bed in a minute as well12:39
Intangirtheres an option in the config file to make it so they cant browse outside of their home directory12:39
slinky_when I right click on a file in Nautilus, i get two entries in the popup menu saying "Open with Rhythmbox" and after uninstalling Rhythmbox I still get one entry, any help?12:39
mikedotyAnyone here happen to use Opera?12:39
mabushow do you modify what environment variable start up for users? like if I wanted ~/bin to be in the path of all users12:39
Davieyphanter, make a note of that command tho12:39
phanterDaviey: I have all of it logged anyway (i love gaim) so i can look at it tomorrow as well12:40
IntangirWilson: its called DefaultRoot12:40
Wilsonok so as long as they have a machine user they can ftp that so i can create 1 user for ftp and just add all files i want for ftp there12:40
IntangirWilson: set it to ~ (DefaultRoot ~)12:40
Intangirthen users who log in can only see their home directory12:40
withaYanyone happen to know how to associate a protocol scheme (for instance, http:// or ftp://) to a particular application?12:40
Intangiralso you can do like this DefaultRoot ~ !intangir, then users can only see home, except i will be able to see everything ;)12:40
Kannixcpl-tnt44: still having problems finding the keyboard layout switch keybinding?12:40
IntangirwithaY: there is a services file12:41
Davieyphanter, okay you can easily resize the filesystem.12:41
Intangir/etc/services12:41
withaYslinky_, you might wanna look through /usr/share/applications to make sure that there aren't 2 rhythmbox.desktop files in there.12:41
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Davieyphanter, anyway good night12:41
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Wilsonso type that u just typed12:41
DavieyGood Night All!!12:41
mirakhi12:41
phanterDaviey: thank you very much... and sleep well12:41
mirakhow does work the hibernation mode ?12:41
cbx33Anyone know about hardware conflicts?12:41
mirakit doesn't seems to work12:41
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lollanthanks ubotu12:41
cbx33I think my sound card is conflicting with my usb?12:41
cbx33is that possible?12:41
benseresolved the issue with DNS taking forever to resolve12:41
bense:)12:41
cens0redI'm getting so many zombie processes with the new ubuntu.12:41
miraklollan: it's ubuto12:41
slinky_withaY: i'll try that12:41
IcooAlReece45: problem...I downloaded the surce, untared it, got into the folder via terminal, typed make (worked fine), then I typed install and it says Install: missing file operand12:41
IntangirCUPS is for printing right?12:42
lollancbx33: I don't think so12:42
Intangirthis guys printer port is open to the internet, i wonder if i can print off of it?12:42
lollanmirak: ok lol sorry12:42
nikinits "make install"12:42
Intangirthis is the guy whos trying to hack me: 58.61.39.9812:42
Intangirhes online now ;)12:42
mikedotyI'm having problems with tab cycling with my mouse in Opera.  Scroll up moves to the next tab instead of the previous tab.  (Mouse wheel works as expected in all other things I've tried.)  Anyone have an idea of a resolution?12:42
Intangirhes got ssh, rpcbind, and ipp open12:42
withaYIntangir, the /etc/services?  i don't think that's the one i want.  for example, i want to click on a lastfm:// link in firefox, but there's no application currently associated with that protocol scheme.12:42
nikinIntangir: try to hack him :D12:42
morgueWhy am I not getting "set as wallpaper" on firefox when I right click on pictures?12:42
IntangirwithaY: oh i dont know how to do that12:42
Intangirnikin: i would but, i dont know how ;)12:43
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AlReece45Icoo: looking real quick, give me anohter minute12:43
nikinIntangir: first try to find where he is12:43
Intangirwhat is rpcbind for?12:43
claheyIs there a magic way to upgrade my ubuntu box to eft?12:43
mirakhow does work the hibernation mode ?12:43
mirakit doesn't seems to work12:43
Intangirnikin: hes in china!12:43
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IcooAlReece45: THX trying to solve it too...I installed the build-essentials12:43
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Intangirchinese hackers are attacking me ;)12:43
Intangirhahahaha12:43
TGPOubotu, please tell clahey about upgrade12:44
IcooAlReece45: I installed them right after edgy...so I don't know whats missing12:44
eegoreIntangir: why would they attack you?12:44
withaYyou can't say that definitively.  there are lots of anon. proxies in china that people route through.12:44
nikinIntangir: bad luck... they have the permission of the goverment, or atleast the goverment dont do nothing against them12:44
cbx33lollan what could be causing it12:44
Intangireegore: im just playing, i think he is running some sorta script that just searches whole IP ranges for open ssh ports, and tries to bruteforce in12:44
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cbx33the mouse and keyboard are practically unusable....12:44
claheyIt is a bit of a bug that the software updates app tells me it's available and sends me to www.ubuntulinux.org for upgrade instructions.  I go there and there are no instructions.12:45
cbx33moving the mouse is so laggy...and it's all since I put in a soundcard12:45
cpl-tnt44what is the commmand showing the current version of ubuntu installed ?12:45
eegoreIntangir: a very sloppy tactic12:45
Intangirnikin: well they dont do much about it anywhere12:45
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Vexxer91SonicvanaJr12:45
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claheyThat message should probably display the correct URL.12:45
Intangireegore: i cant think of any other reason why someone from china would be trying to log into my machine ;)12:45
Wilsonintangir.. do i get all the packages found for proftpd?12:45
lollancbx33: you have no sound, that's it ?12:45
IntangirWilson: just get the proftpd one , and whatever dependancies it has12:45
cpl-tnt44what is the commmand showing the current version of ubuntu installed ?12:45
Vexxer91SonicvanaJr? You there Mr?12:45
eegoreMaybe the Russian mob looking for a spam machine?12:45
cbx33lollan no I have sound12:45
nikinIntangir: thats kinda true12:45
cbx33but the keyboard and mouse don;t work properly12:46
SonicvanaJrVexxer91, hey12:46
Wilsonthere is like 8 that say proftpd!!!!!!!!!!!!1112:46
Intangirhrm let me have a loot12:46
Vexxer91How's it goin buddy?12:46
Intangirlook12:46
slinky_withaY: I checked there is only ony entry for Rhythmbox, it is like a type/application has been defined twice somewhere, one never got deleted during a complete uninstall12:46
blazemonger;5~;5~;5~;5~;5~;5~is Debian more stable than Ubuntu?12:46
TGPOcpl-tnt44 its edgy12:46
cbx33lollan any ideas?12:46
withaYslinky_, ugh.  pita.  umm....12:46
AlReece45Icoo: Do you have the kernel source installed?12:46
cpl-tnt44TGPO , what's edgy ?12:46
lollancbx33: did you have sound before ?12:46
LjLblazemonger, no. yes. maybe. not the right place to wonder about that.12:46
IcooAlReece45: kernel source?12:47
TGPOcpl-tnt44 or to see what you have been using 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list12:47
lollancbx33: I mean you didn't just install ubuntu ?12:47
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cpl-tnt44TGPO i think u'v confusing me ...12:47
cbx33lollan I didnt have a soundcard before12:47
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cbx33I installed ubuntu12:47
cbx33was allworking fine12:47
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IntangirWilson: get the one named 'proftpd'12:47
Intangirthats it12:47
cpl-tnt44TGPO i asked how do i chk my current ubuntu version12:47
cbx33then I put asound card in now it doesn't work properly12:47
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Intangirthen edit /etc/proftpd.conf, change DefaultRoot to ~12:48
cpl-tnt44and how i upgrade it ?12:48
TGPOcpl-tnt44 that will tell you the version that you have been using for package management12:48
Intangirthen your good i gotta go12:48
Intangirlaters people12:48
Kannixcpl-tnt44: "uname -a"12:48
Wilsonok thanks12:48
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eegorecynical: I might throw in another hardrive this week and play around with it12:48
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Kubuhow can i se ethe temperature of my cpu?12:48
Kubuthrough ubuntu12:48
lollancbx33: I think you need to add the support for your sound card12:48
slinky_withaY: also when i double click to play an mp3 it says mp3 document when file content is mp3 audio12:48
eegoreWith the abilitiy to have eight drives, what the hell12:48
TGPOuname -a doesnt list version12:48
cpl-tnt44thanks kanix12:48
AlReece45try doing  sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r` and them aking again12:48
cynicaleegore: good idea, personally I havent noticed a big difference. Shutdown times are a lot faster but I rarely do that anyway. I guess just having updated software like firefox 2, not that you couldnt do that in dapper anyway12:48
Wilsoni can use no-ip duc for my ip to aaccess my server right?12:49
AlReece45Icoo: try doing  sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`and making again12:49
FlamekebabAnyone know how to fix the flash-crash error in Edgy in Flock?12:49
AbstAny one know how to fix this that happened after installing nvidia?12:49
Absthttp://img.waffleimages.com/8c064d108c672462db94b25498af09e9ae10ded7/screen.png12:49
TGPOnot is "edgy" "breezy" ect format12:49
cbx33lollan the kernel should pick up the driver12:49
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IcooAlReece45: I installed them right after edgy...so I don't know whats missin12:49
cbx33the sound now works fine12:49
cbx33no lag at all12:49
cbx33I think it must be IRQ12:49
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lollancbx33: no always, you need to configured the sound card12:49
compu73rg33kwhat's the code name for 6.06 ?12:49
compu73rg33kis it breezy?12:49
IcooAlReece45: ok but I will have to disconnect now to connect the laptop via ethernet12:49
cpl-tnt44How can i upgrade my ubuntu 6.06 LTS to 6.1 ?12:49
AlReece45Icoo: well the source isn't included with build-essensial.. so, did you install the source manually12:49
blazemongerAre aloto f packages in Debian testing more stable than the ones in ubuntu?12:49
lollancbx33: have a look in the system menu12:49
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AlReece45Icoo: k12:49
georgycompu : dapper drake12:50
TGPOcompu73rg33k dapper12:50
compu73rg33kah thanks, what was breezy?12:50
lollancbx33: Look at the device manager to see if your sound card is well known12:50
georgycompu : 5.1012:50
compu73rg33kohh12:50
slinky_withaY: any ideas?12:50
compu73rg33kHmm has memcached been dropped in dapper then>?12:50
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Wilsonwhere is my proftp installed to/12:52
icoook I'm back on, could you please tell me the apt get adress again alex12:52
variantWilson: just run it12:52
eegorecynical: I plan to upgrade firefox anyway12:52
Wilsonthat  helps if i can find where to ru n it12:52
cpl-tnt44How can i upgrade my ubuntu 6.06 LTS to 6.1 ?12:52
eegoreand that is about it12:52
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TGPO!upgrade12:52
ubotuFor upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade12:52
variantWilson: type the word in a terminal12:52
variantWilson: or select it from the menu12:53
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variantWilson: is that the server or client?12:53
GerMansonis there any way to upgrade to edgy? or i really have to make a new install?12:53
shadfcis there a specific channel to talk about beryl stuff?12:53
icooAlReece45: could you tell me the adress again12:53
Wilsonok i will work on it more later..12:53
variantshadfc: #ubuntu-xgl12:53
TGPO!upgrade12:53
ubotuFor upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade12:53
mirakhow the UUID is generated for a device ?12:53
variantshadfc: and #beryl12:53
Wilsonhappy halloween guys12:53
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phanteroke, anybody. I sucesfully created my lvm disk and vgdisplay tells me it is 1-5 GB in size, if I mount it and do a df -h it tells me it is only 49GB. What is the problem?12:54
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blazemongerquestion..what is LVM?12:54
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icooAlReece45: could you tell me the adress again? I just connected the laptop12:55
TGPOblazemonger logical volume manager12:55
phanter!lvm12:55
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO12:55
lollancbx33: so how is it going ?12:55
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AlReece45icoo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248168&page=412:55
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icooAlReece45: could you tell me the adress again? I just connected the laptop12:56
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icooAlReece45: I mean the kernel stuff12:56
AlReece45icoo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248168&page=412:56
AlReece45oh12:56
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AlReece45u mean12:56
AlReece45icoo: sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r` ?12:57
^Pixel_how can I install Acrobat Reader in Firefox please?12:57
icooAlReece45: yep starting it right now12:57
^Pixel_AlReece45: any ideas?12:57
nikini just installed Dapper server, and my ethernet card hets an IPv6 address but my router doesnt support that, so cant understand why it gets that12:57
nikinand i have no network12:57
^Pixel_nikin: not my problem12:58
icooAlReece45: couldn't find package12:58
AlReece45icoo: eh12:58
nikinPixel???12:58
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AlReece45^Pixel_: I havn't installed acrobat reader, the document reader is suiting me well.12:58
icooAlReece45: thats what it says12:58
TGPO^Pixel open synaptic and hit the search button for adobe OR pdf, install them12:58
^Pixel_how can I install Acrobat Reader in Firefox please?  anyone know?12:58
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^Pixel_TGPO: its installed, but not for Firefox12:59
georgyPixel : yes12:59
^Pixel_TGPO: any ideas?12:59
GerMansoni am using update-manager -c for upgrading to edgy, but it keeps saying me "system is up to date"12:59
^Pixel_hwo can I install reader into firefox?12:59
TGPO^Pixel_ then rung the search and install ANOTHER one12:59
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GerMansonsorry12:59
GerMansonproblem fixed12:59
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georgyGerMnson : solution ?01:00
Tokeiitoi have problem with taskjuggler installation/deinstallation. i've tryed evrything: apt-get remove, apt-get install -f, dpkg --remove, dpkg --purge but always i'm geting error: dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 1; How can i remove that packet?01:00
Tokeiitothis is full error code: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29630/01:00
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GerMansongeorgy: i was not typing correctly lol01:01
icooAlReece45: any idea?01:01
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LjLTokeiito: would seem the postinst for that package is broken. let me check (and break my system as well)01:01
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Solopher:)01:01
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LjLTokeiito: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/taskjuggler/+bug/4872101:02
^Pixel_i found it01:02
^Pixel_sudo apt-get install mozilla-acroread01:02
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^Pixel_TGPO: thanks fore nothing01:02
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^Pixel_TGPO: all you had to tell me was "sudo apt-get install mozilla-acroread"01:02
stmoonhi01:02
cynicalarent u nice01:02
^Pixel_TGPO: thanks for nothing01:02
AlReece45icoo: well i tried seeing what apt-get said you need to compile it... but it doesn't tell me what I already have that it needs01:02
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TGPO^Pixel_ synaptic would have returned the same info smartass01:03
stmoondid you install xgl in edgy?01:03
floyd2Can gparted do a low level format to find/mark bad sectors?01:03
^Pixel_TGPO: you are a troll01:03
shiraI don't understand how themes in linux work.. how come when I install a theme, I don't get the images the theme comes with? For example, I dled thsi theme: http://art.gnome.org/preview.php?image=thumbnails/gtk2/GTK2-CillopMediterranean-Shot.png but when i use it, I don't see those image buttons. I get the color style, but nothing else01:03
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LjL^Pixel_, TGPO: calm down.01:03
TokeiitoLjL: this will work also on kubuntu or only on ubuntu?01:03
nikinwhy my network card gets an IPv6 adress innstead of IPv4 ???01:03
GerMansonshira: maybe you need an extra engine.01:03
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stmoonplease help me01:03
^Pixel_LjL: im so calm, that im sleepy ;)01:03
LjLTokeiito: it should work on kubuntu as well.01:03
LjL!helpme | stmoon01:04
ubotustmoon: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:04
^Pixel_nikin: not my problem01:04
LjLUbotu, please tell stmoon about xgl01:04
TokeiitoLjL: thank you01:04
luisbgif I change monitor do I have to change some setting in ubuntu, like the xorg.conf where the hsync and vsync are?01:04
shiraGerManson: that's what I assumed but I couldn't comple any of them.. lol01:04
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Sammy`hi01:04
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GerMansonshira: with images, do you mean.. icons?01:04
GerMansonshira: icons and themes are two different things01:04
floyd2Can gparted do a low level format to find/mark bad sectors? If not, what tool do I need?01:04
Sammy`how can I find out what bootloader is actually working on my system?01:04
icooAlReece45: what should i do now? maybe i need to add a repo?01:04
cynicalshira: you installed a control (a color scheme). What you need to do now is install an icon set and window border01:04
LjL^Pixel_, i don't think nikin was even talking to you.01:04
shirano images as in: http://art.gnome.org/preview.php?image=thumbnails/gtk2/GTK2-CillopMediterranean-Shot.png the button images01:04
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hangfireanyone know a site where you can download good sound bites for the Ubuntu login? I cant stand this new bantu clucking/bongo login intro01:05
shirathose arn't icons are they?01:05
LjL^Pixel_, reading back, i see that *you* are definitely a troll. please stop being.01:05
cynicalshira: no, I'm not sure why they arent the same01:05
shirahum i think i got it, i need to isntall the pixmap engine01:05
^Pixel_LjL: lets take a vote on that01:05
^Pixel_:)01:06
LjL^Pixel_: no01:06
nikinany ideas how i can set my networkcard to IPv4?01:06
^Pixel_LjL: ok np ;)01:06
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GerMansonShina: "Requires pixmap and clearlooks engines"01:06
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shiraah.. didn't see that01:06
^Pixel_LjL: do you have ability and power to kick people?01:06
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LjL^Pixel_: why do you ask?01:06
Kannixnikin: errm, what is the problem exactly?01:06
AlReece45icoo: try running sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` gcc gcc-3.401:06
aoupinikin: you should get both a ipv6 and an ipv4, do you onyl get ipv6?01:06
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LjLnikin, try editing /etc/network/interfaces and removing the references to sit0 (make a backup first)01:06
shiracynical: alright i installed it, I'm going to restrat x and see what happens01:07
firebird619Where can I find a good howto for installing MythTV? I'm running Edgy.01:07
icooAlReece45: you are the man, it's working01:07
Tim90My network works great thanks to POVaddct01:07
nikinKannix: i installed dapper server, and after the install there isnt net... i have checked eth0 and it works but has an IPv6 adress.. and it cant connect to the network01:07
floyd2How can I scan my drive for bad sectors?01:07
nikinaoupi: just v601:07
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AlReece45icoo: w00t01:08
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aoupifloyd2: fsck --help01:08
NET||abusehey guys, is there a gaim plugin to put up a little pic for my avatar? in messenger01:08
icooAlReece45: ok i installed them, and did make again, it was ok like last time, but install is still showing the same01:08
Tim90icoo:You know a song by Nas , Your the man01:08
AlReece45hm01:09
Kannixnikin: how are IP details configured? DHCP?01:09
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nikinhmm in the interfaces file is: iface eth0 inet dhcp.. so that seems to be correct01:09
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nikinyup01:09
aoupinikin: can you ping localhost?01:09
GerMansonNET||abuse: gaim does not need plugin for that.01:09
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NET||abuseoh,, trying to find the setting..01:09
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nikinyes i can ping localhost01:09
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cynicalNET||abuse: in gaim 2.0beta4 they have a universal avatar thing, very easy to set it or change it01:09
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GerMansonNET||abuse: acounts -> select your msn account - > modify -> see more options01:10
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NET||abusenah, on 1.5 i think01:10
Kannixnikin: What does "dhclient eth0" do?01:10
btb103is rambo3 still here?01:10
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AlReece45icoo, what's the output of " ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build | wc -l"01:11
NET||abuseoption doesn't seem to be there in my version :(01:11
jvaieth0 is the wired cat5 connection kannix01:11
floyd2aoupi, thanks. Does fsck just fix partition errors or can fix detect and fix physical errors also? I don't see anything in manpage about fixing physical errors.01:11
jadacyrusHI, i'm on edgy and I haven't received any system updates for a few weeks.. I keep doing apt-get update and it tells me im updated. Howevr I know this cannot be the case because I saw just today on the website Ubuntu 6.10 edgy has been official released and still no updates.. I have checked and Im not automatically downloading or installing the updates..what could be the problem?01:12
icooAlReece45: 2001:12
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nikinKannix: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 intervall (and a number)01:12
btb103I am having live boot/installation issues with X-Windows, I'm getting a Fatal server error: no screens found01:12
aoupifloyd2: I don't think you can fix physical errors, it can just detect them and then not use thoose sectors of the disk01:12
Kannixjvai: I understand that he is havong problems getting it configured correctly to utilize IPv4?01:12
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GerMansonNET||abuse: keep looking, i am sure is there.01:12
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cmcraedoes anyone know how to set up the sound card in Ubuntu linus01:12
TGPOjadacyrus edgy doesnt mean that you will get updates01:12
cmcraelinux01:12
Kannixnikin: So does the dhcp request time out?01:12
Hobbinjadacyrus: It's because the auto-update hasn't kicked in yet01:12
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LjLjadacyrus, when was the last time you actually *did* get updates?01:13
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jadacyrusI don't understand, when I will i start getting updates01:13
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nikinyup.. NO DHCPOFFERS recieved01:13
HobbinSoon01:13
jadacyrusWell, probably 3 weeks ago01:13
dieselWhat happened to the XFCE compositor with Edgy?01:13
jvaiwhaat! i had that problem on an older laptop w/ a pcmia card01:13
Kannixnikin: Then your setup is not working. Can you set an IP directly?01:13
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LjLjadacyrus: try typing "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"01:13
^Pixel_LjL: do you have ability and power to kick people?  if not, be silent01:13
HobbinDoes anyone here run the Ubuntu server?01:13
jvaimy bad kannix01:13
jadacyrusLjL: i just tried that, nothing01:13
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azurealdoes anyone happen to know if /etc/mplayer/input.conf is the real config file for mplayer?01:14
TGPOjadacyrus to move to edgy you need to upgrade, to manually update open a terminal and 'sudo apt-get update' and see if there are any packages01:14
georgyHobbin : yes01:14
Kannixjvai: No problem. I have a hard time keeping track in here myself :)01:14
azurealthere are some things commented out...so01:14
jvailol01:14
GerMansonsee ya guys01:14
GerManson:)01:14
nikinKannix: if you tell me how01:14
aoupiLjL: thx01:14
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cmcraeDoes anyone know how to setup a soundcard in Linux01:14
jadacyrusTGPO: im already on edgy01:14
btb103X-Windows is having some sort of trouble detecting my video card, an x850xt - the error goes (WW) ATI: PCI Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected!01:14
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rothgarI just installed edgy with a nvidia 6200.  I installed the latest driver using "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and then restarted but now I just get a error and a black screen.  can anyone help me at least get to a terminal so I can turn on the nvidia flag in xorg.conf?01:14
jadacyrusTGPO: i just havent received any updates in quite some time and i find that very odd.01:14
dieselHobbin: yes01:14
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Kannixnikin: ifconfig eth0 <address>01:14
icooAlReece45: 20 is that ok?01:15
HobbinGeorgy & or Diesel: Do I need a monitor to set it up?01:15
TGPOjadacyrus sorry, misread version, do a manual check then01:15
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AlReece45icoo: perhaps01:15
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AlReece45icoo, output uh 'bash -c "ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build | grep .config" | wc -l'01:15
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TGPOjadacyrus 'apt-get update' 'apt-get upgrade'01:15
Kannixnikin: You have to use the right address of course. You may have to set the nw mask manually, as well.01:15
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georgyHobbin,: you mean to run it ?01:16
rothgaris there a way to start ubuntu without gnome starting (holding shift or something?)01:16
icooAlReece45:   001:16
cmcraeDOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO SET UP A SOUND CARD IN UBUNTU LINUX01:16
LjL!caps | cmcrae01:16
ubotucmcrae: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.01:16
HobbinGeorgy: To run or install; I know a lot of servers don't need monitors01:16
TGPOrothgar you mean with no GUI?01:16
jvaikannix does he have firestarter? he may be able to config more so01:16
fatlipm4a decoder for linux?01:16
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fatlipwell; ubuntu01:16
nikini have now. 192.168.0.119    nw 255.255.255.001:16
rothgartgpo: ya the new nvidia driver broke gnome01:16
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rothgarnow I don't know how to get into a terminal01:17
georgyHobbin: to install you need a keyboard and monitor, to run it only a keyboard01:17
TGPOrothgar boot in single user mode is the easiest IMO01:17
Kannixnikin: Well? Are you on the 192.168.0.0/24 network then?01:17
jokoonIsnt there some foobar equivalent on linux ? xmms is too graphic and amarok is too complicated, I just want to play audio files and save playlists01:17
jvaihe can config for dhcp thru a gui like firestarter01:17
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jadacyrusTGPO: I've been trying apt-get update and apt-get upgrade for the past 2 weeks and havent gotten one single update01:17
Kannixnikin: Then it should work now.01:17
nikinit doesnot01:17
nikini tryed to ping01:17
aoupijokoon: if you find one, tell me :)01:17
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nikinit cant even reach the router01:17
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jokoonok aoupi01:17
cmcraeso I guess that noone knows how to set up a sound card....01:17
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Kannixnikin: Do you know the IP address and network mask of your server?01:18
mirakhi01:18
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AlReece45icoo: jeez, while i'm trying to search, try compiling the latest 1.2801:18
cynicaljokoon: rhythmbox is pretty simple01:18
LjL!ask | cmcrae01:18
ubotucmcrae: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:18
Kannixcmcrae: What lets you come to that conclusion?01:18
HobbinGeorgy: Right on. From there, I'm probably going to route my connection between this computer and that one, then control that from here01:18
cynicaljokoon: I just change the layout to remove some things and it looks similar to foobar, albeit with bigger buttons01:18
Kannixnikin: You can't just guess one.01:18
nikinKannix: i know the ip and nm of the router01:18
mirakhi upgraded dapper to edgy and now the boot fail, the kernel can't find root device. I use lvm but I changed with the appropriates names01:18
TGPOjadacyrus dont shoot the messenger on this one, that usually indicates your up to date, come to think of it I havent had an update in awhile either01:18
btb103can someone help me try to figure out why x-windows can't detect my video card properly and what i can do to boot/install ubuntu01:18
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cmcraewell I asked if anyone knows how to setup a sound card 3 times and no one responded01:18
nikinKannix: why i cant guess an IP?01:19
HobbinGeorgy: I'm new to Linux, and I'm trying to make my server all linux-based01:19
georgyHobbin : you can do it with ssh01:19
AlReece45icoo, one other thing, you did type "sudo make install" right?01:19
jokoonaoupi : see what cynical just said :)01:19
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Kannixnikin: well, a netmask alone is no help. You need to know the network as well.01:19
mirakmy old kernel from dapper manage to boot though01:19
jokoonthanks cynical01:19
aoupijokoon: :)01:19
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LjLcmcrae: perhaps that could be because it's not quite a question that makes much sense. soundcards usually work out of the box. if you have a problem, you should state which problem, and which card, and the relevant information.01:19
joshritgercan i get help with making a network bridge from windows to linux01:19
icooAlReece45:  yeah thats what I just realized, I typed just install...now it works...sorry -.- I'm such an idiot!01:19
cynicaljokoon: np, btw here is a screenshot to see what I mean http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=18465&d=116214751701:19
Kannixnikin: and generally, you should be assigned an IP for your server. It has to be unique in the network, or you are asking for trouble.01:19
AlReece45icoo: yeah :)01:19
cmcraeI am trying to figure out how and/or why the sound card was not installed when I installed everything.01:19
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georgyHobbin : then you need to read some docs before01:20
AlReece45icoo: brb, i'm trying 1.28 real quick01:20
LjL!sound | cmcrae01:20
ubotucmcrae: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems01:20
icooAlReece45:  what about thoe kernel things i installed can I leave them01:20
ut2004can someone help me im tring to set up my linux box as a gateway using 2 nic cards01:20
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Kannixnikin: Are you in a home environment and just toying around or is this in a professional environment?01:20
HobbinGeorgy: What do you suggest reading?01:20
AlReece45icoo: you can probably remove them now, though you should probably keep gcc4.301:20
mareks_anyone in here know how to parition a mac harddrive that has os x installed on it yet still keep that installation?01:20
TGPO!hosts01:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hosts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:20
jokoonZotz noce01:20
cmcraewell neither the sound card that is hardwired to the motherboard or the one that I installed did not work when I installed Ubuntu01:21
icooAlReece45:  how do I remove them?01:21
nikinok i think i found the prob01:21
nikinhow can i set the netmask?01:21
nikinKannix: i cant understand... whyat do you mean?01:21
joshritger!network bridge01:21
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georgyHobbin : setting up a ssh server, dhcp server and set up a fiewall01:21
nikinKannix: i have set the DHCP to give a fix IP to the server01:21
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georgyHobbin : firewall01:21
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LjL!fishing01:21
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)01:21
btb103I am getting a Fatal server error: no screens detected! when I try to boot/install ubuntu live. It seems to be having trouble detecting my radeon x850xt does anyone know what I can do to troubleshoot this?01:21
Kannixnikin: if you screw up the config of that server, are you likely to take down a whole company, or just your own server in your bedroom?01:22
asc_I just upgraded to Edgy, and it won't start the x server.  The error message is "could not open default font "fixed".  Any ideas how to resolve it?01:22
Kannixnikin: ok, which IP is that?01:22
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LjLasc_: how did you upgrade?01:22
nikinKannix: its a toy server :D01:22
nikin192.168.0.11301:22
TGPOut2004 your going to spend some time in hosts and host.allow getting that set up01:22
btb103I am getting a Fatal server error: no screens detected! from x-windows when I try to boot/install ubuntu live. It seems to be having trouble detecting my radeon x850xt does anyone know what I can do to troubleshoot this?01:22
asc_LjL: 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' from Dapper.01:22
HobbinGeorgy: Good idea, I should probably read all about it before I do anything01:22
Kannixnikin: Since DHCP is not working and times out, have you checked your cable?01:22
joshritgerdoes anyone know how to setup a network bridge from a windows computer to xubuntu?01:22
LjL!upgrade | asc_, well, that was not the best way01:23
ubotuasc_, well, that was not the best way: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade01:23
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ut2004i dont understand01:23
nikinyes i checked but do it again01:23
LjLasc_: anyway, i'd try running "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" (or "kubuntu-desktop" if you're using kubuntu, or whatever applies)01:23
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georgyHobbin : when you install it, then you can begin with the other services01:23
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jokoonseems that when I add a file from a working ntfs partition, it load something but no item appears01:23
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btb103I am getting a Fatal server error: no screens detected! from x-windows when I try to boot/install ubuntu live. It seems to be having trouble detecting my radeon x850xt does anyone know what I can do to troubleshoot this?01:23
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icooAlReece45:  when blacklisting , should i add "blacklist bcm43xx" or just "bcm43xx" to the file01:24
LjL!repeat | btb10301:24
ubotubtb103: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience01:24
Kannixnikin: well, don't "check" it by looking at it and nodding. Change it for a different cable until you can properly test it.01:24
kevuhow do i tell a program to start on start up?01:24
AlReece45rothgar, you there?01:24
tamcan someone recommend a good mail client that will forward on a particular template given when a mail comes in with specific charetaristics? it can't be thunderbird tho01:24
LjLUbotu, please tell kevu about startup01:24
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rothgaryes01:24
nikinKannix: this cable worked about 20 hoours ago01:24
CptBrutalis it normal for xmms to freeze on some streams?01:24
nikinso it should work01:24
AlReece45icoo: blacklist bcm43xx01:24
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keiferCan anyone think of why I wouldn't get a connection via a ethernet hub in edgy/dapper, while the same device works in breezy?01:24
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HobbinGeorgy: My plan is to make a website, and then a FTP server01:25
asc_LjL: well, we do live and learn.  Ah... I just remembered that apt-get upgrade says it's holding back about fifty x-related packages.  Know of a handy command that might cause them to install?01:25
Kannixnikin: well, that is, unless someone tripped over it, the cat had a go at it, you yanked it while toying with the router, etc.01:25
kruncherhas anyone else had problems with k3b not getting the cddb entry when copying a music cd?01:25
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asc_LjL: (if you don't, I'll try ubuntu-desktop as recommended)01:25
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LjLasc_: ouch. do you have any third-party repositories enabled?01:25
AlReece45rothgar, I have the nvidia go 6150, and the nvidia-glx driver in the repository didn't work with it, I think its the same with the 6200, you need to install the beta nvidia driver if you want to use it01:25
georgybtb103,: do in the terminal sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and choice vesa driver for your card01:25
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iratsuif i want to make a fresh install of ubuntu server on a server, should i use 6.06 LTS or 6.10?01:25
btb103thx georgy01:25
georgyHobbin : then you have to install apache2 and proftpd01:26
nikinKannix: just a sec i test it with other PC01:26
fatlipis there a repo for audio formats like m4a?01:26
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LjLiratsu: as the name says, 6.06 has Long Time Support, so it might be a better choice for a server in the long run01:26
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asc_LjL: No.01:26
rothgarAlReece45: thanks for the tip, how can I get to a terminal though to install the beta driver?01:26
jokoonWhy Totem reads a file (double click) but dropping it on rythmnbox doesnt make it appear ?01:26
kevuLlj: but it's a c program aka terminal app, not gui one.01:26
LjLasc_: well, can you run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and post the full output to the pastebin please?01:26
AlReece45rothgar, also when x doesn't start, you can go to a terminal by using CTRL+ALT+F(1-6)01:26
btb103how do i choose a vesa driver?01:26
iratsuLjL: so what does long term support imply?01:26
LjLkevu: what sort of thing, exactly?01:26
boricua5 years of update01:26
LjLUbotu, please tell iratsu about lts01:27
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rothgarAlReece45: thank you01:27
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jatt#debian01:27
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rothgarAlReece45: I was pounding my keyboard trying to figure that out01:27
boricuawhen i run synaptic i see these 2 pkgs greyd out how come http://pepino.is-a-geek.org/~boricua/synaptic.jpg01:27
btb103georgy: how do i choose a vesa driver?01:27
AbstLjL: Posh posh, 'please'01:27
icooAlReece45:  ok got till step 4, i installed the driver but when typing "ndiswrapper -l" i get invalid driver01:27
kevuLjL: a c program that i want to execute at each bootup, but not depending on gnome to do it. how would i do this from the console?01:27
asc_LjL: I'm short one graphical web browser right now01:27
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LjLAbst: i'm not typing that, it's an automatic replacement :-P01:27
HobbinGeorgy: Yea I'll install those later, I've ran a website off of this computer before. The only issue I have, is with an entire other computer dedicated to being a server01:28
AbstLjL: haha01:28
LjL!boot | kevu01:28
ubotukevu: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto01:28
AlReece45rothgar: your welcome, also if you're intrested Step 2 for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851 is what i've been redirecting to01:28
georgybtb103, : normaly, you can choice it from the list01:28
TGPOAlReece45: did you have him lspci -n to match driver versions not just driver names?01:28
LegendreHello! Could someone point me to a HOW-TO for installing / running ubuntu from a USB flash drive?01:28
AlReece45icoo: you had the .sys file in it right?01:28
georgyHobbin : ok01:28
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btb103georgy: i typed the command in as you said and it said unknown option for x o r g01:28
Legendremy CDrom crapped out, and I need to install from a usb flash =/01:28
LjLkevu: adding to /etc/rc.local should do.01:29
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asc_LjL: It lists the same packages as 'sudo apt-get update'.  They're mostly xserver-xorg-input-* and python*01:29
LjLUbotu, please tell Legendre about install01:29
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icooin my home folder together with the inf file01:29
TGPOicoo are those downloaded drivers or from CD?01:29
AlReece45TGPO: I believe the driver he downloaded from the hp.com site was for his own computer, unless he just downloaded it frmo someone else01:29
HobbinGeorgy: Thanks for the help dog01:29
cmcraeis there a way to find out if a device is installed. For example. My Sound card and my hardware mounted sound card01:29
icoodownloaded01:29
LjLasc_: you mean "sudo apt-get upgrade" i suppose. anyway, please pastebin the full output -- of dist-upgrade or upgrade, doesn't really make a difference. and pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file as well01:29
LjL!pastebin01:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:29
georgybtb103, : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:30
AlReece45icoo: you did download from hp.com and your computer model right?01:30
TGPOAlReece45, icoo theres the problem01:30
nikinKattix: the cable worx fine with my notebbok01:30
nikinnotebook*01:30
asc_Oh.  And xserver-xorg-core.  That could do it.01:30
icooyes01:30
Kannixnikin: ok01:30
Kannixnikin: lets go through things again from scratch.01:30
icooTGP0: ?? how01:30
georgycmcrae, : lspci01:30
TGPOicoo do 'lspci' and find your card write down the hex address01:30
nikinok01:30
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AlReece45TGPO: its not just some linked download, he went to hp.com and support and drivers for his laptop model to get the drivers, not just some drivers i've been redirecting people to01:30
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nikinKannix: its a fresh install of ubuntu LAMP server01:31
icoo10:00.001:31
TGPOAlreece45 I had the SAME problem01:31
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Kannixnikin: ifconfig shows the IP address you manually assigned, correct?01:31
asc_LjL: It could take a while; I'll have to play around with nano and lynx.01:31
nikinKannix: 1 sec.. i ame rebooting01:31
TGPOicoo 'lspci -n' and write down the numbers in a format like xxxx:xxxx01:31
TGPObrb have to get a link for you01:31
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btb103georgy: what do i enter for the video card's bus identifier, it's PCI-E01:32
georgybtb103, : nothing01:32
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nikinit worx after reboot01:32
cmcraeok well I found the sound card yet I am not getting any sound01:32
Kannixnikin: oh grand.01:32
LjLasc_: i understand - well, just try installing ubuntu-desktop first. it should do no harm anyway (at worst, it'll reinstall packages that were installed by default but which you removed later)01:32
btb103georgy: leave default PCI:1:0:0?01:32
ZoohouseI am a little confused about the "Hot new item" or what ever in KDE.. I heard that I can use it to download bunch of extra stuff like OO templates. How do I open this program??01:33
georgybtb103 : yes01:33
nikinKannix: btw thanx for help :D01:33
Kannixnikin: you're welcome :)01:33
icooTGP0: 14e4:431101:33
Zoohouseopps, this is Ubuntu not Kubuntu01:33
Zoohousesorry01:33
TGPOicoo hold one01:33
icoook01:33
AlReece45TGPO: btw, that's mine too :P01:33
boricuawhy does apt keep pkgs back The following packages have been kept back:01:33
boricua  libggi2 mplayer01:33
AlReece45icoo, what folder did you install the drivers from?01:34
icooAlReece45:  damn man...I hope we will figure this out01:34
icoohome/Icoo01:34
mabushow do you unrar archives with multiple parts in ubuntu?01:34
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aoupimabus: install unrar, then unrar e firstrar.rar01:34
AlReece45and bcmwl5.inf  bcmwl5.sys was in there right?01:35
icooyep01:35
TGPOicoo AlReece I cant connect to the ndiswrapper wiki for some reason01:35
AlReece45TGPO: :-(01:35
icootry accesing it from google cache, thats what I did01:35
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TGPOicoo AlReece on that site, you will find somewhere that has a list of drivers listed out with that xxxx:xxxx address01:36
AlReece45oh01:36
TGPOicoo AlReece those are the drivers specific for your card01:36
AlReece45icoo, what is the output of 'lsmod | grep bcm43xx'01:37
kevuLjL: ok rc.local was what i was looking for, thanks. but what is the syntax? can i just add /home/kevu/script.out there?01:37
TGPOicoo AlReece on another note, the method described at http://bcm43xx.berlios.de is much better than ndiswrapper01:37
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AlReece45TGPO, I did that at first, but for one, this card isnt' supported. Another reason is that I can't go faster than 20Kbps on it01:38
icoothis is what I found01:38
newbuntiea couple of days ago I installed a tv card, after turning the comp on it uncompressed linux and booted the kernel fine, but then I got mount errors (mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such device, Mounting /root/dev on /dev/ .static/dev failed: no such file or directory, target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init)01:38
icooLaptop: Compaq Presario V5204NR01:38
icoo    * Card: Broadcom Corporation 802.11b/g controller01:38
icoo    * PCIid: 14E4:431101:38
icoo    * Subsystem: 103C:136301:38
icoo    * Driver: Broadcom Driver (provided with the laptop) bcmwl5.inf; matches the official Broadcom download01:38
icoo    * Distribution: Gentoo Linux 2006.1, emerge system dated 2006102401:38
icoo    * Ndiswrapper vesion: 1.2701:38
icoo    * Other: Kernel 2.6.17-r8 (2.6.17.10) patched by the Gentoo folks01:38
newbuntiethen it defaulted to the built-in shell (ash)01:38
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asc_LjL: Trying.  I'm on 56K, so I probably won't get back to you in a reasonable timeframe. :)01:38
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LjL!paste | icoo01:38
ubotuicoo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:38
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btb103georgy: i finished re-configuring X and am now back at the command prompt. what should i do?01:38
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icoosorry guys01:39
georgybtb103, : startx01:39
newbuntieany ideas what could've caused it and how I can fix it?01:39
LjLkevu: yes, though i would *not* add a script that's in your /home directory as a startup script. move that script somewhere else (/usr/local/bin would be the logical choice), and set the permissions so that only root can write to it01:39
btb103georgy: damn, same error01:39
icooAlReece45:  it gives out nothing01:40
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TGPOicoo anyway, find the driver that matches that second address code and everything will pop up hunky dory, has the last 3 times I'v followed that path01:40
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LjLkevu: (chown root:root /usr/local/bin/scriptname ; chmod o-rwx /usr/local/bin/scriptname)01:40
georgybtb103 : do the same and choice vesa and 24 bit color01:40
AlReece45icoo: did you have another ndiswrapper installed before?01:40
kevuLjL: what could go wrong if i had it in /home/?01:40
icoono01:40
icoofresh install of edgy01:40
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eternale1alright, i've had some issues getting xserver/gdm so i found apost on ubuntu forums talking about adjusting the value of the gdm-reconfigure to "vesa" , well i've done and i'm back and running X but things seem sluggish... for example, while scrolling in any web browser it looks like its "drawing" the page as i scroll with the mouse... terrible explanation i know but its hard to explain... any ideas how to get back to better performance? or an explanat01:41
btb103georgy: where do i choose vesa? i selected 24 bit on the last config01:41
LjLkevu: that anybody who gets access to your own account could gain root as easily as eating a piece of cake.01:41
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elriahHi all.  If I screwed up my nsswitch.conf file and I need to login in maintenance mode, what's ubuntu's root password (or  how do I login in maintenance mode) ?01:41
newbuntiea couple of days ago I installed a tv card, after turning the comp on it uncompressed linux and booted the kernel fine, but then I got mount errors (mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such device, Mounting /root/dev on /dev/ .static/dev failed: no such file or directory, target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init)01:41
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newbuntiethen it defaulted to the built-in shell (ash)01:41
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newbuntieany ideas what could've caused it and how I can fix it?01:41
icooTGP0: but it says: Driver: Broadcom Driver (provided with the laptop) bcmwl5.inf; matches the official Broadcom download01:41
puffI'm having a problem with my ipod not automounting.01:41
LjL!nickspam | abst01:42
ubotuabst: changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu can get you removed - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users, the same goes for using noisy away see (/msg ubotu away) for more details "/away reason" sets your client away silently, thanks01:42
georgybtb103, : normaly they propose the ati driver, so scroll down and choice vesa01:42
icooTGP0: there is no link01:42
AbstLjL: !sorry | LjL01:42
btb103georgy: i gotcha, i will try that01:42
TGPOicoo the list is there01:42
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puffI'm also having a problem with gtkpod going away when I click on the playlists (presumably crashing, though maybe it leaves behind a lock file, 'cause when I start it again it reports that ther'es a gtkpod already running)01:42
TGPOicoo I helped someone with this last week and the list was there01:42
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fatlipi cant find how to playback m4a on edgy... which library do i need from the repo for the aac codec?01:43
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kevuLjL: but will there be any problem? because ubuntu does not have root by default. will the chown command work?01:43
icooTGP0: http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:7UCF-3OkPWoJ:ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List+ndiswrapper+wiki&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=201:43
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AlReece45icoo: you ran the ndiswrapper -i with sudo right?01:43
icoono01:43
georgykevu : for root command just use sudo before the command01:43
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icoodamn01:43
shirayou know how Edgy automounts hard drives and displays an icon on the desktop? How do I prevent it from doing that, putting an icon on the desktop?01:44
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icoonope I did01:44
icooi checked the terminal log01:44
elriahHi all.  If I screwed up my nsswitch.conf file and I need to login in maintenance mode, what's ubuntu's root password (or  how do I login in maintenance mode) ?01:44
LjLkevu: you'll need to run it with sudo, but yeah01:44
kevuLjL: do i insert that line as it is in rc.local, or should i execute the commands on that file and then just add /usr/local/bin/script ?01:44
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icooit asked me if I'm root the first time so i figured out i need sudo, so yes I used sudo01:44
LjLkevu: and ubuntu has root (as in having a superuser). it's just that you can't directly access the "root" account, and you use sudo instead01:44
btb103georgy: i chose vesa this time and my monitor went blank and into powersave mode01:45
LjLkevu: i'm not getting you01:45
case1Does anybody in here know where I could get some help with RRD ?01:45
LjLkevu: you should move the script, and run the chown and chmod commands, now. in /etc/rc.local you simply run the script01:45
case1I'm trying to setup netflow and flowscan01:45
georgybtb103 : sync range to hihg ?01:45
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kevuLjL: so in rc.local there should be only /usr/local/bin/script. right?01:46
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georgybtb103, : *high01:46
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LjLkevu: right01:46
icooTGP0: did you look at the list01:46
TGPOicoo here's the link http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R115321.EXE01:46
case1is anyone in here fam. w/ flowscan ?01:46
hckrSidHi all... just installed edgy... now if I connect an external monitor (or projector) to the laptop, it displays only on the external monitor.01:46
btb103georgy: sync range was auto-detected, i used that and verified it online01:46
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hckrSidAnyone have this issue?01:46
hckrSidI have an ATI radeon card, using the "ati" xorg driver.01:47
icooTGP0: DEll? I have a HP01:47
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case1hckrSid: are you sure it isn't bios settings on your lappy?01:47
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kevuLjL: ok thank you!01:47
Ktiohi01:47
hckrSidcase1, it used to work fine on dapper.01:47
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georgybtb103 : sorry, out of idea01:47
case1hckrSid: strange01:47
Ktioanyone knows a good prog for dvb viewing ?01:47
TGPOyour matching the the system address, its the same manufacturer of the chipset your using01:47
TGPOwho made your laptop doesnt mean squat01:48
hckrSidcase1, it displayed on both screens... also now on edgy as soon as I connect an external monitor it logs out and gives me a login screen.01:48
newbuntiewhat would cause some of my file system to disappear and other parts to remain?01:48
btb103georgy: thanks for trying, now when i run install it uses that x config i made and it goes automatically to powersave mode01:48
ihatetripeOh lordy, could someone please help me with this problem, it's driving me bonkers. ssh is not working in nautilus. I am getting the "Please select another viewer and try again." error. I have installed ssh-askpass-gnome and it still does not work01:48
case1hckrSid: sorry man, i have no idea01:48
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hckrSidcase1, thanks anyways.01:49
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Ktiowhat is equavalent ofr progdvb in linux ?01:49
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georgybtb103 : you can install it in text mode01:49
case1can someone suggest the best networking channels on here?01:49
case1looking for some help with flowscan01:50
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ihatetripeKtio, I use Kaffiene01:50
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btb103georgy: do you have a link describing how to do that?01:50
newbuntieany idea how parts of my filesystem could disappear after a tv card installation and how I could get them back?01:50
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Ktioihatetripe i use kaffeine too but bot satisfied, i want something like progdvb that uses plugins such as vPlugin01:51
Ktiobot=not01:51
newbuntieis there anyway to try to retrieve lost files?01:51
KtioI wonder why there are no good dvb viewers for linux :(01:51
ihatetripeKtio, I know what you mean. If you find a good one let me know :)01:52
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TGPOwhats a dvb?01:52
mortal5where does mplayer store its codecs, isn't it /usr/lib/win32?01:52
jadacyrusI can't write to my floppy disk. Its telling me its a read-only file system. How do I change the permissions so I can write to it again?01:52
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Ktiodvb=Digital Video broadcasting .. i.e. satellite cards01:52
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newbuntielet's ask a really simple question, can anyone see me type?01:53
TGPOjadacyrus add yourself to the group, its in user management01:53
jadacyrususer management..01:53
TGPOnewbuntie yes01:53
jadacyrusokay01:53
fatlipi cant find how to playback m4a on edgy... which library do i need from the repo for the aac codec?01:53
newbuntiegood, i guess01:54
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paoloa friend of mine has a problem with 6.10, if he plug his mp3 player ubuntu automount it with read onyl permission. Any idea?01:54
jadacyrusTGPO: what group do i have to add myself to?01:54
jadacyrusunder mount it says user=alex, thats me01:54
TGPOjada, let me look real quick01:54
jadacyrusstill wont let me write.01:54
jadacyrusrw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=alex01:54
georgybtb103 : no, but watch at google01:55
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kevuLjL: but if i chown it to root, then if i log in as kevu, will it get executed?01:55
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mortal5where does mplayer store its codecs, isn't it /usr/lib/win32?01:55
azurealwow! what did edgy do to my etc/fstab01:55
Linuturk_zZzhow can I force a fschk on the next reboot?01:55
azureali just noticede the horror01:55
paoloa friend of mine has a problem with 6.10, if he plug his mp3 player ubuntu automount it with read onyl permission. Any idea?01:55
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TGPOjada, I dont have the group for that ... not having a floppy drive01:55
jvaiwould sound recorder make a good stream ripper?01:55
jadacyrusheh01:56
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jadacyrusi mean, under my fstab it says rw01:56
baastrupmy boot lig gives me this error: Loading hardware drivers...                             error receiving uevent message: No buffer space available01:56
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TGPOjada can you go root and use it?01:56
azurealedgy randomly converted all my /dev/sda* !?01:57
LjLkevu: yes, since it'll get executed by root, at boot time, before you even log in01:57
jribmortal5: /usr/lib/codecs/ now or the corresponding in /usr/local, though win32 should still work01:57
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TGPOazureal, thats physical addressing your seeing, did the same thing to my sataII drives01:57
jadacyrusTGPO: nope.. :-(01:57
kevuLjL: oh ok makes sense now01:57
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LjL!info testdisk | newbuntie01:57
jadacyrushmm01:57
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ubotutestdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB01:57
jadacyrusi have an idea one sec01:57
TGPOkk01:57
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LjLnewbuntie: there are also other programs (type "apt-cache search undel"), but i'm afraid they only work on ext201:58
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azurealTGPO, why would you want that?  speed?01:58
AlReece45TGPO, that might have been the same card, but the drivers are different (the .sys files)01:58
case1anyone in here fam. w/ setting up flowscan?01:58
azurealTGPO, cause it's ugly as hell01:58
LjLkevu: make sure the script isn't buggy, since it's going to have root privileges.01:58
fatliplong island in the house!01:58
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case1anyone in here fam. w/ setting up flowscan?  I'm having a heck of a time setting it up and getting my round robin databases working (RRD).01:59
TGPOazureal, I have been trying to figure that out (and how to mount my other SATAII) for 3 weeks now, let me know if you find out why its using physical addressing01:59
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Linuturk_zZzTGPO, I'd like to know too azureal ;p01:59
Linuturk_zZzit does look nasty01:59
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azureali want to vomit02:00
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azureali opened it just now and almost died of shock02:00
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AlReece45icoo: i think remove the driver from ndiswrapper restart and try again, maybe i forgot to include something that needs to be loaded.02:00
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meherendoes anyone no how to set xdm to boot xfce not gnome?02:00
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icooAlReece45:  how do i remove it, I'm just downlaoding the Dell drivers that TGP0 sugested02:01
mortal5how can i check the codecs directory my mplayer was compiled with?02:01
LjLmeheren: i don't use xdm (i use kdm), but i suppose there is a "Session" menu02:01
baastrupdoes anyone know how to get rid of: hw_random: cannot enable RNG error02:01
LjLbaastrup: dunno, try something random02:02
ivxhey i am trying to use vsftpd to setup multiple ftp accounts that will all upload to different directories. does anyone know how to set that up in the config file?02:02
meherenLjL, xdm has no menu's on it's greeter02:02
AlReece45icoo, I believe sudo02:02
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AlReece45icoo, 'sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5' should do it02:02
TGPOazureal lets ask :)02:02
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TGPOcan anyone tell me why this is this way in /etc/fstab? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29636/02:03
icooAlReece45: did it, now I will wait for the dload to finish02:03
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LjLTGPO: what's wrong with it?02:03
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TGPOyou see the UUID?02:04
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azurealLjL, i agree w/ TGPO, it sucks02:04
AlReece45icoo: k02:04
azurealwell, at the least it's scary02:04
TGPOhow the heck do you determine that?02:04
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LjLTGPO, it's been done so that drives are referred to by an unique identifier, rather than by their device name (/dev/whatever), which changes depending on which slot you connect the drive to02:05
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azurealis this the only distro that's currently doing this?!02:05
LjLTGPO: this way, moving drives around should have less nasty effects02:05
LjLazureal: dunno02:06
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maxflaxAnyone having the knowledge of LIRC how to compile and such.. keep getting errors when doing the make02:06
TGPOLjL are you aware of any place where we can manually determine that? makes it impossible to add more drives02:06
LjL!uuid02:06
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid"02:06
TGPOah02:06
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fatliplong island in the house!02:06
fatlipwhoops02:06
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fatlippasted the wrong one lol02:06
shadowhywindis apt-get clean and autoclean safe to run?02:06
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meherenhow do a reconfigure a package?02:06
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fatlipi cant find how to playback m4a on edgy... which library do i need from the repo for the aac codec?02:06
fatlipthere we go02:06
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LjLmeheren: sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>02:07
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LjLshadowhywind: yes02:07
shadowhywindthanks02:07
shadowhywindmy apt folder has 2.2 gbs, hehe02:07
meherenLjL, ah... all this time i've been doing sudo dpkg --configure <package>02:07
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meherenheh :p02:07
azurealblkid ll02:07
nikin!startx02:07
azureallol02:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about startx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:07
azurealwhat a horrible command =p02:07
GTXI swear Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop is so nice, shame it hardly has anything in its repo02:07
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LjLazureal: block (device) ID, i'd assume02:08
hangfire_anyone know how I can put the home folder icon on the desktop toolbar(panel)? I cant r-click on the icon02:08
fatlip!leet02:08
ubotu1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.02:08
fatlipsorry, that stood out02:08
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TGPOLjL, it actually makes sense now .. thanks02:09
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Kannixhangfire_: right click on the bar.02:09
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icooAlReece45:  yes yes yes the Dell driver worked...drivers present, hardware installed...going to step 502:10
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hangfire_Kannix- and then what?02:10
jadacyrusi have a .IMG file, I can use the dd command to write its contents to a floppy, but I want to write its contents to a folder on my desktop, when I try of=/home/user/Desktop/folder , it just recreates the IMG file...isntead of the contents of it02:10
AlReece45icoo: odd, I tried the dell drivers first and they hated me ;P02:10
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icooAlReece45:  damn those idiots at Broadcom for not puting out Linux drivers...well let's go to step 502:11
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phaedrus44what is a good gui ftp client?02:11
TGPOicoo glad that got you going02:11
pinkyicoo: Yeah I have a Broadcom wireless card =[02:11
meherenanyone have an idea of how to set up xdm to use xfce instead of gnome?02:11
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maxflaxNot one that has compiled drivers for IR remote and VFD display. how strange..02:11
elyezersomeone can help me to install anjuta 2.0.2?02:11
georgyphaedrus44, : gftp02:11
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elyezerand need to install printer epson lx-30002:11
PR006phaedrus44, take your browser02:11
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kronomanHello! I have now two hard disk, both with a swap partition.  Can I use both swaps at the same time ?02:12
PR006phaedrus44, konqueror or epiphany02:12
AlReece45icoo: oh btw, if you get them installed, upgrading to 1.28 is very simple, just sudo make, sudo make uninstall, sudo make install, and then the connections % is actually not 100%02:12
LjLkronoman: yes02:12
PR006kronoman, yes, jou can02:12
TGPOkronoman yes02:12
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Kannixhangfire_: +add to panel02:12
VonGuardhello02:12
LjLkronoman: you should set both swap partitions to the same priority in /etc/fstab, so that they will be load balanced02:12
LjL!hi02:12
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!02:12
PR006kronoman, its, the question, if it makes sense02:12
Kannixhangfire_: custom application launcher02:13
LjLPR006: most definitely does02:13
nikinwhat are the base packages you need to run X ?02:13
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Kannixhangfire_: "nautilus" is the application02:13
VonGuardi have installed and gotten xmame working on Dapper. But now, when i hit escape to quit out while running a game, gnome crashes out02:13
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VonGuardspits me back to login02:13
nikini have installed xserver-xorg-core02:13
VonGuardany ideas?02:13
elyezerhow i install anjuta2.0.2??02:13
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hangfire_Thanks Kannix , thats what I need to know02:13
TGPOnikin did you also install xorg?02:13
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phaedrus44gftp doesnt run on my ubuntu install02:13
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nikinthere was no such package02:13
phaedrus44freeezes02:13
aoupinikin: do you want the entire desktop like gnome and stuff? in that case install ubuntu-desktop02:14
VonGuardi can't for the life of me think of why gxmame would cause gnome to quit02:14
nikinnono.. just X and windowmaker02:14
VonGuardit runs the games fine02:14
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VonGuardjust, when in hit escape it logs me out02:14
Chippyhey, how would I add entries to my gnome menu?  I installed a program manually, but I want to add it to the menu...02:14
TGPOnikin ???? was there the other day ... you need xorg02:14
VonGuardnevermind the joystick issues i'm having02:14
icooAlReece45:  got it, I see the card in networking...what now?02:14
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nikinRGPO: i tryed apt-get install xorg .. and it didnt find the package02:14
LjLChippy: right click02:15
TGPOnikin, there is a way that "MIGHT" work02:15
LjLChippy: at least i think. or there should be a menu editor somewhere in the menu itself.02:15
PR006bye all - happy computing ;-)02:15
TGPOnikin, and I wont say that it wont break you02:15
nikinby02:15
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nikinTGPO: tell it02:15
HaroldJohnsonHello everyone02:15
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georgynikin : x-window-system-core02:16
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kronomanthanks for the swap tip, I don't know if it makes sense to have both, but well, since I don't want to repartion the old drive, I could use both just for the sake of it02:16
HaroldJohnsonI'm trying to figure out why my wireless networking02:16
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HaroldJohnsonAnyone: Know how to troubleshoot wireless?02:16
VonGuardso, no one has any mame experience?02:16
TGPOnikin, however edit your sources.list to include http://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib02:16
LjLUbotu, please tell HaroldJohnson about wifi02:16
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TGPOnikin update and install it from there02:16
HaroldJohnson!wifi02:16
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:16
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ianmacgregorTGPO: It02:17
nikinTGPO: will see if georgy-s answer doesnt work02:17
D00B3YBuffer I/O error on device hda... any ideas?!!02:17
iratsudo i want to use bluetooth-gnome or bluez-utils for bluetooth?02:17
ianmacgregorTGPO: It's not a good idea to be installing debian packages in Ubuntu02:17
LjLTGPO: ouch, that *will* not might break things02:17
ChippyLjL: there is, but that doesn't let me add custom stuff, only let's me add things that it then installs via apt-get02:17
AlReece45icoo, try installing network-manager-gnome, its pretty good02:17
TGPOI'v pulled it off once or twice, but like I said its a haorrible idea02:17
AlReece45icoo, i'll brb again02:17
D00B3Yanyone?02:18
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LjLTGPO, one thing is installing a single Debian package using dpkg - which, as ianmacgregor said, is still dangerous -- an entirely different thing is putting the whole Debian repository into sources.list. at the first apt-get command, all sorts of weird stuff will get installed02:18
D00B3YBuffer I/O error on device hda... any ideas?!!02:18
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AlReece45icoo, i guess taht didn't d/c me02:19
georgyD00B3Y, : run fsck to repair it02:19
TGPOLjL, like I said, its a hail mary go for broke02:19
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D00B3Yit's when I boot the live CD though, can't run fsck when linux is running02:19
icooAlReece45:  got it, I see the card in networking...what now?02:19
icooAlReece45:  sorry02:20
nikinLjL: it is still good for a befora-the-last-option thing.. the last option is to get a pickaxe and smash the whole thing in to molecules02:20
KannixIs anyone using edgy in the AMD64 version? I am experiencing graphics problems on bootup. The ubuntu-logo is b/w and the throbber is screwed up. Everything is fine once gdm kicks in, though.02:20
icooAlReece45:  well I installed network-manager-gnome...but where is the damn thing02:20
TIger_ITD00B3Y: have U used hdparm reciently ?02:20
D00B3Yno02:20
D00B3YI dont even know what it is..02:20
TGPOkannix, got the same problem ... top end nvidia card?02:20
KannixTGPO: Yep. 7900.02:20
D00B3Yhow do I check what device is hdc?02:20
TIger_ITD00B3Y: ahh...02:20
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icooAlReece45:  I can't find any icon for it02:21
LjLnikin: alright, anyway, if you do that, make *very* sure that apt-get will *only* install the stuff you want from the Debian reps, and if you see anything like "libc" mentioned, DON'T go for it. and when you're finished installing, remove the Debian repository from your sources.list, and issue a sudo apt-get update02:21
TGPOKannix cause it doesnt know what the card is02:21
TIger_ITD00B3Y:  is the CD-ROM02:21
D00B3Yk02:21
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D00B3Ywhat's wrong with it?02:21
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TGPOKannix it doesnt know my 7950 either02:21
D00B3Ywell I know it's fucked up.. but can I do anything to fix it?02:21
KannixTGPO: But isn't it using framebuffer in VESA mode anyhow?02:21
nikinLjL: be sure i will try everything before doing that :D02:21
AlReece45icoo, it should start automatically on your next login, but running 'nm-applet --sm-disable' should open it02:21
LjL!language | D00B3Y02:21
ubotuD00B3Y: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:21
Chippyhey, how would I add entries to my gnome menu?  I installed a program manually, but I want to add it to the menu...02:21
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TIger_ITD00B3Y:  sudo hdparm -i /dev/hdc02:21
D00B3Ywhat does it to?02:22
mortal5has anyone gotten ubuntu 6.10 working with their pvr card yet?02:22
TIger_ITD00B3Y:  in private02:22
D00B3YLjL: sorry?02:22
KannixTGPO: Because both, the "nv" and the closed source "nvidia" drivers for Xorg work fine.02:22
LjLD00B3Y: what?02:22
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D00B3Ylanguage?02:22
TGPOKannix hmm02:22
TIger_ITD00B3Y:  is to know... if somethig is wrong02:22
LjLD00B3Y: see what you said above02:22
D00B3Yoh ok02:22
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D00B3YI apoligized..02:22
KannixTGPO: And it works fine with the same hardware, using ubuntu x38602:22
mcquaidI used to use qjoypad and now I can't compile it in edgy, is there an alternative?02:22
jribChippy: applications > accessories > menu layout02:23
nikindo the files of the repo have anything like a checksum?02:23
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LjLnikin: more than that -- they're signed using PGP keys02:23
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kevinanybody know why amarok is updating to 1.4.4? i added the repos and keys...02:23
KannixTGPO: Maybe a bug in the frambuffer driver that only shows in 64bit mode?02:23
mcquaidor I have g++ 4.1 installed, maybe it needs 3.3?  Btw, 4.1 doesn't make a sym link to /usr/bin/g++ which I found strange02:23
TGPOkannix mebbe is just a x64 glitch. I was blaming it on un ID'd hardware02:23
Chippyjrib: no such entry?02:23
jribChippy: what version of ubuntu?02:23
Chippyjrib: edgy02:23
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maxflaxwhy have they removed devfs_fs_kernel.h from 2.6.18.1 kernel... I need that to compile some drivers.. damn02:24
jribChippy: strange, can you right click on the top menu (the ubuntu icon) and select "edit menu"?02:24
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Chippyjrib: ah, that works.  thanks :)02:25
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LjL(which was the first thing i said 10 minutes ago anyway)02:25
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TGPOis it working Icoo?02:25
Kannixok, another question. The wifi-wiki says to install network-manager to enable and configure WPA WLAN. However, I cannot find any applet or application "network-manager" after installation. Has anyone ever gotten the network-manager to work under 6.10?02:26
georgynikin, : and02:26
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Icoook I logged back in and network manager showed up he is saying something about a wired connection, when I type eth1.(my wireless net) I only see disconnected02:26
Skallegood day (or night)02:26
IcooTGP0 got the driver working...but how to connect with it02:26
nikingeorgy: i ame downloading.... 19 minutes left... the repos are slow tonight02:26
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georgynikin : ok02:27
Xaiceim looking for a scp client fpr gnome02:27
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SkalleIs anyone available to help me with some iptables/NAT problem?02:27
IcooTGP0 look up my message up there02:27
LathiatXaice: you can open "sftp://user@host/" URLs in nautilus02:27
TGPOicoo have you been into your iwconfig and set it up there?02:27
jvaiicoo, nm is kida slooow... i go thru that when goin from & to wired - wireless02:27
sidewalkwhat has happened to xinetd in edgy ?02:27
sidewalkhow do i get swat running?02:27
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jvaiu have to play w/ it02:27
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Icooiwconfig says it's a 802.11g connection, 54 Mb/s seems ok02:28
TGPOicoo and all of its other info is correct?02:29
SkalleI'm having problems redirecting all the udp and tcp traffic of a certain port that comes in through the router, to a certain computer on the network02:29
azurealIcoo, did you setup correct ESSID?02:29
Shadow_milgrrr!  how do I make my GTK fonts bigger!?!02:29
TGPOicoo and key02:29
IcooI just did a iwlist eth1 scan and found my network02:29
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jvaiit should show up in the notification area icoo, a round blue circle for network manager, right clik it to toggle02:29
Icoohow do i connect02:29
azureallol02:29
sethkSkalle, where are you doing the redirect?02:30
Skallewhat do you mean?02:30
TGPOare you hardlined also Icoo?02:30
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SkalleI am doing it on the computer in the network which I want to forward the activity to02:30
sethkSkalle, in a router, are you using your ubuntu box as a router, what are you redirecting?02:30
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Icoonope I disabled the wired network02:31
SkalleA windows box is the "king" of the router02:31
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sethkSkalle, ok.  let's get a bit more specific.02:31
sethkSkalle, what traffic is to be redirected?02:31
IcooI will try to restart the laptop, mybe this works02:31
SkalleAnd I want the traffic of a certain port (13871) to go to my ubuntu box02:31
botxjOMG, the new Edgy is kinda kool looking02:31
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botxjit's got new nifty little features02:31
reversebladeHello, when I resume from hibernate, my display becomes little broken with beryl. I can fix this thing by manually reloading the window manager. Is there a smarter way ?02:31
karimhey02:32
botxji LOVE THAT!02:32
sethkSkalle, ok, but where is the traffic coming from02:32
karimdapper update to edgy is going very very bad here02:32
Skallefrom the internet02:32
sethkSkalle, you can't redirect traffic at the receiver, obviously02:32
karimI can't run X02:32
sethkSkalle, well, ok, but I assume there is something between your ubuntu box and the internet  :)02:32
SkalleI used to be able to do that when I ran windows on this boc02:32
karimapt-get and aptitude are doing non-sens and insane things02:32
jmdcmy /etc/network/interfaces file doesn't have eth0 set to come up automatically, but it does anyway. Any ideas why?02:32
botxjedgy is awesome!02:32
SkalleHow do you mean? I am behind a router02:32
karimubuntu have gone very bad02:32
Xenguykarim: /. will confirm your experience =)02:33
sethkSkalle, ok, so the router sends the traffic where?02:33
karimXenguy: who ?02:33
jmdckarim: is a fresh install an option?02:33
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Xenguykarim: slashdot - apparently fresh installs fare better than online 'upgrades' :-/02:33
karimjmdc: I am seriously considering it02:33
LjLreverseblade: xgl support in #ubuntu-xgl - anyway, i'd try perhaps looking at the /etc/acpi/resume.sh script or whateverit'scalled and add a command to restart the WM02:33
Skallethe router sends the traffic to the "king" of the network, I.e. the first computer connected to the router I believe02:33
Icoonope restarted the PC but still nothing, but I can see my network when i do iwlist eth1 scan02:33
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Icoomaybe i should change eth1 to wlan0 to make NM work02:34
benkong2why do I not get the option to shutdown in gnome edgy? I only get logoff, hibernate, suspend and switch user02:34
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sethkSkalle, that's unlikely.  the router wouldn't be sending all traffic to the same machine.02:34
Xenguykarim: which, if true, is a damn shame02:34
SkalleI don't totally understand this, I'm sorry02:34
Psi-JackHeya. I'm using Ubuntu-server 6.10. What does it used to set services to start/no-start at init?02:34
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reversebladeLjL: I thought that. but how to restart WM by command line ?02:34
SkalleBut I'll try to explain02:34
sethkSkalle, ok02:35
LjLreverseblade: dunno... how do you restart it by hand?02:35
benkong2Psi-Jack: look at update-rc.d02:35
SkalleI want some activity (tcp and udp) of a certain port to go unconditionally to this box on the network02:35
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Psi-JackAha! update-rc.d, that's what I was looking for.02:35
benkong2or use the services on the system menu02:35
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SkalleDo you have any idea what to do?02:35
karimXenguy: I don't have much to lose on this box configuration wise02:36
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karimbut I must burn a cd02:36
karimfor edgy02:36
sethkSkalle, yes, but you have to do it at the router02:36
Psi-JackThere. Much better. Wanted to get rid of bind, for now, from startup, while I migrate to maradns. heh02:36
karimand I will need to do it from command line02:36
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Xenguykarim: if it is a fresh install, that might be easiest from what I've read02:36
karimkarim: edgy the shaky shake02:36
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SkalleAt the router? At the box that is connected first to the router, or the router itself somehow?02:37
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karimthe punt doesn't work ...02:37
sethkSkalle, the router itself02:37
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SkalleThank you for your time, I'll try that02:37
Xenguykarim: a better name, yes :-)02:37
Xenguykarim: or, maybe not ;-)02:37
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jvaigott, is every1 on edgy in here!!?02:38
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DigitalNinjaWhere do I get the beta nvidia driver from?02:39
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byteshackdoes Edgy support Beryl?02:39
DigitalNinjaI'm on the nvidia website and I don't see the beta driver02:39
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LjLUbotu, please tell byteshack about beryl02:39
Xenguyjvai: I doubt it02:39
maxflaxwhat is devfs and what is udev.. and why has udev replacd devfs?02:39
jvailol... yep.. this is the bleeding edgy channel02:40
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KannixHow can I check, if network-manager is actually running?02:40
botxji love edgy02:40
botxjOMG02:40
botxjOMG02:40
botxjwhat tha02:41
LjLbotxj, we're happy that you love edgy, but would you stop spamming and using caps? ;-)02:41
jvaibotxj it shoulds show up in the notification area like gaim does02:41
botxji'm sorry LjL but Xchat has a new feature now02:41
jribif I get an intel core 2 duo can I install the 32bit version of ubuntu?02:41
kevinjrib: it goes boom!02:41
jribkevin: D:02:41
botxjmy xchat now doesnt show my name on lines that i post where nobody has posted before on IRC02:41
botxjthat is why i spam OMG 2 times02:41
karimcould anyone give me a link to a edgy iso for athlon K7 ? my X is broken02:41
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botxjomg, i wonder what else has been changed02:42
LjL!info links2 | karim02:42
ubotulinks2: Web browser running in both graphics and text mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1pre23-1 (edgy), package size 2009 kB, installed size 3224 kB02:42
Xenguykarim: apt-get install elinks02:42
Xenguy;-)02:42
DigitalNinjaI'm on amd 64. Do I need the amd 64 nvidia driver?02:42
LjLkarim: http://ftp.crihan.fr/releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso02:43
DigitalNinjaamd 64 process or on 32 bit ubuntu02:43
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KannixDigitalNinja: It depends on the distribution, not the CPU.02:43
mabushow do i unrar files of multiple parts?02:43
jribmabus: unrar the first one and it should continue02:44
cmcraeI have the Ensoniq audioPCA (Alsa mixer) up and running. the only way I am getting sound is if the ICE958 2 is Checked. and the sound is staticy..... Any reasons why?02:44
DigitalNinjaKannix: I see. So I just use the 32 bit version then?02:44
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LjLmabus, if i recally correctly, you should be able to just type "unrar filename.rar", if you have all the various parts in the same directory as the file that actually has a .rar extension02:44
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aoupimabus: unrar e file.rar02:45
KannixDigitalNinja: If you have the 32-bit ubuntu, yes. You get the 32bit driver.02:45
jvaii cant wait for vvista to come out, to see how it compares to dapper02:45
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karimhalleluia !!!02:45
karimI got video02:45
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sethkkarim, big deal, I got a tv set.  :)02:45
mabusI tried to install -e on part01.rar, but it said "could not extract" for all of the files02:46
sethkkarim, 12 inches, black and white.  :)02:46
phireI've got 2 screens set up, with out Xinerama. How do I open a program up on the other window?02:46
DigitalNinjaKannix: Thanks!02:46
jribmabus: I just do 'unrar x part01.rar', does that fail too for you?02:46
dougskomabus: rar e file.rar0 (or whatever the first number is)02:46
LjLsethk: cool, but i've got a 4" b/w one with only a knob for tuning, which can run out of 10 1.5V batteries02:46
sethkphire, if they are separate x displays, one is   :0.0, and the other is :0.102:46
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sethkLjL, I give, beats me.  :)02:47
dougskoheh heh...knob...02:47
cmcraeI have the Ensoniq audioPCA (Alsa mixer) up and running. the only way I am getting sound is if the ICE958 2 is Checked. and the sound is staticy..... Any reasons why?02:47
phireSethk, I've tried firefox --display=:0.0 and 0.1 they both pop up on the main screen02:48
KannixSo, can anyone help me sort this network manager thing out? How do I start and use it? I see not application and/or applet to run. I have the packages installed and I can see a background process "nm-applet --sm-disable" under top.02:48
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mjbjrso, who here is running 6.10 and checked the MD5SUM of the iso?02:48
sethkphire, not that way.  do:    export DISPLAY=:0.102:48
sethkphire, then try running firefox02:48
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Psi-JackHmm, Is there any deb's for dbmail 2.1 for Ubuntu?02:49
sethkphire, not all programs pay attention to the -d (it's supposed to be either -d, or --display, I believe)02:49
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jvaikannix, maybe "network manager" in terminal/02:49
KannixWhere is "GNOME's notification area"?02:49
Kannixjvai: I tried that. No results.02:49
phirethanks sethk02:49
sethkKannix, try  network-manager02:49
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LjLKannix: the system tray02:49
sethkKannix, with the dash02:49
^Ocean^is there a quick easy way to unload all my sound drivers ?02:49
cmcraeI have the Ensoniq audioPCA (Alsa mixer) up and running. the only way I am getting sound is if the ICE958 2 is Checked. and the sound is staticy..... Any reasons why?02:50
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neonempyrUbuntu compatible digital voice recorder anyone?02:50
sethk^Ocean^, unplug the machine.  that unloads _all_ the drivers  :)02:50
geezerhi02:50
^Ocean^lol02:50
^Ocean^yeah..02:50
Kannixsethk: There is no such application. THe only thing starting with "network" is "network-admin" which starts the regular admin tool.02:50
jvaikannix if that works in terminal u should see a blue circle02:50
^Ocean^but theres no like rmmod todo it ?02:50
LjLneonempyr: most USB mp3 readers02:50
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j1mchi all - can anyone recommend a good pcmcia wireless card?  i'm running xubuntu on a thinkpad t22.02:50
^Ocean^like remove the module and all the modules depending on it ?02:50
jvaikannix did u dl it from the repos? it's not in by default02:50
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sethkKannix, if it starts the admin tool, then it can't be true that there is no such application.  I guess I'm confused, I thought you wanted to start the network admin dialog.02:51
Kannixjvai: Yep, I downloaded and installed it.02:51
neonempyrLjL: what do you mean by mp3 readers?02:51
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LjLneonempyr: mp3 players i meant. the USB-key kind.02:51
Kannixsethk: No, the network-manager tool to finally get my WLAN working on my notebook.02:51
greenmani got a message when i installed the package for nfs that i have new mail in /var/mail/michael02:51
greenmanhow do i read that?02:51
neonempyrLjL: There are usb-key mp3 players that record voice? I'm looking for something like a 12-hour02:52
sethkKannix, you can use     find     to search the file system(s) for it02:52
Kannixjvai: Maybe it is because I deleted all but one toolbar and crammed everything in there?02:52
georgygreenman,  : cat /var/mail/michael02:52
sethkKannix, or use locate, if updatedb has been run since you installed.02:52
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jvainoooo! lol...02:52
greenmangeorgy, okay, but shouldn't i have some mail program?02:52
Falstiu1LjL, my 1G mp3 player will record over 30 hours of voice (with some conversative recording settings)02:52
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LjLneonempyr: well, yeah, i think a lot of them do. mine does. about how many hours, i'd have to make a fwe calculations, but if you set the rate low enough...02:53
Kannixsethk: There is a nm-applet which according to manpage is the network-manager applet, and it is also running when I look at "ps aux"02:53
georgygreenman, : it's just a log message02:53
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LjLneonempyr: well, see Falstiu102:53
jvaioooh kannix, right clik on the panel then add to panel, see if it shows up thru there02:53
Kannixsethk: However, I cannot get any frontend to operate.02:53
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iterheh02:53
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Falstiu1neonempyr: I have an iRiver 790.  It is nice in most ways (1G flash)02:53
Kannixjvai: Only network monitor, not network manager.02:53
neonempyrFalstiul: good battery life on that?02:54
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jvaisnap02:54
cmcraedoes anyone know anything about sound cards02:54
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sethkKannix, I haven't used that applet, so I'm guessing here, but sometimes the front end won't start if the back end is already running.  Have you tried killing the nm-applet and then running one of the front end tools?  see if it starts the applet in the background and communicates with it?  As I said, may or may not apply to this applet.02:54
greenmangeorgy: well there appears to be spam in there too02:54
greenman:)02:54
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Falstiu1neonempyr: 1 AAA battery, supposedly lasts 19 hours.  It 'feels' good.  A fresh battery can record for many hours on end.  I used it recently to record some family history that my aunt was relating.02:55
puffARgh, darnit... I'm now running into the alsa problem with rhythmbox and gtkpod, I thought I fixed that a few weeks ago.02:55
aoupidoes anyone here use kasablanca (the ftp client)02:55
shivI have grub installed I want to switch to lilo. I dual boot with windows and have only 1 HDD. How do I proceed to remove grub and install LILO02:55
Kannixsethk: Well, what is the frontend tool to the nm-applet background? I'd be glad to know :)02:55
sethkgreenman, almost certainly you have the mail or mailx program, which is a console mail reading program.02:55
jvaikannix "add to panel" then "add custom app"02:55
neonempyrFalstiu1: sounds good. have any idea of the bitrate on those recordings and how they sound to you as far as quality and mic sensitivity?02:55
greenmansethk: nope.  i tried both of them02:55
Kannixjvai: Ok, which custom app is it?02:55
sethkKannix, How can you say you have tried starting front ends for it, if you don't know what the front ends are?02:55
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jvaior this might work sudo network-manager02:56
sethkgreenman, then apt-get install one.  should take less than two minutes.02:56
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greenmanmail or mailx?02:56
jvainatwork-manager type that in02:56
i_love_beerI can't get ubuntu to load even in safe graphics02:56
sethkgreenman, or, of course, you can install one of te fancy mail readers.  there are literally dozens of available mail readers02:56
Kannixsethk: I have not said I tried frontends. I said I tried to get the whole thing to run as mentioned in the wifi-wiki. But that ain't working!02:56
Falstiu1neonempyr: you can set the recording quality (sample rate, bitrate, mic gain) ... it is 'pretty good' with the built in mic and there is a line-in jack.02:56
sethkgreenman, let me check02:56
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tritiumgreenman: evolution is installed by default02:56
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Kannixsethk: The wiki says, it should start automatically after relogging.02:56
neonempyrFalstiu1: thanks a lot mate, you've just ended my quest. :)02:56
greenmantritium: i'm not local to the machine02:56
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sethkgreenman, sudo apt-get install mailx02:57
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Falstiu1neonempyr: I'm not an audiophile though.  For simple voice it is great ... it even has an auto-detect.02:57
greenmansethk: thanks02:57
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jvaisnaaap.. kannix, do u even have a notification bar on your panel?02:57
Kannixjvai: What is a notification bar and how do I install it? :)02:57
neonempyrFalstiu1: yep, not looking for broadcast quality or anything, just for memos and lectures.02:57
sethkKannix, wiki may be a bit out of date.  I've only done the command line stuff with wireless, maybe somebody else has more experience with the applet than I do.02:57
Kannixjvai: I am not aware of any notification bar.02:58
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jvaiwell, when u redid your panel u may have removed it kannix02:58
Falstiu1neonempyr: oh, 1 caviat.  The firmware that comes on it doesn't act like a USB hard drive.  There is an official version of the firmware that does, but it was difficult to find.02:58
shivI have grub installed I want to switch to lilo. I dual boot with windows and have only 1 HDD. How do I proceed to remove grub and install LILO02:58
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Kannixand jvai, there is no tool such as "network-manager": no such file or directory.02:58
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aoupiis there any graphical ftp client that supports SSL/TLS besides gftp and kasablanca?02:58
jvaithat's why network manager may not show up02:58
neonempyrfalstiu1: do you know if there is an updated model with the same features that they are selling?02:58
Kannixjvai: I might well have done that. how do I get it back?02:58
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jvaiadd tro panel kannix02:59
jvai"add to panel02:59
Falstiu1neonempyr: not by name ... I haven't looked much since I got mine 3 years ago.02:59
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DigitalNinjaWhen building a new kernel do I need to build a new initrd?02:59
donfilipoi managed my Edgy to play media with probably all codecs and only one trouble remains...i can not manage to convince my firefox (2.0) to start real media (ram files) with kaffeine plugin wich i think works the best if streams are avi, wmv,asf...etc. and even if i give him a link  of ram (real media)...but as you now some times the links to source of stream is unpossible to copy ...and it is not comfortable....anyone knows where the f... is the02:59
donfilipo setting in firefox wich tells him to open my ram (real media) streams with something white not working at all?????02:59
neonempyrfalstiu1: Do you remember where you got that update?02:59
Kannixjvai: Ahhh! There is a network connection thingy now.02:59
Kannixjvai: Thank GOD.02:59
jvaiunder utilities @ kannix02:59
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jvailol03:00
ivxhey easy question, i know install is sudo apt-get install x, would would uninstall be?03:00
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jvaii'm good for sumthin.. the 1st person ive helped in here!!!!03:00
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Kannixjvai: Yeah, I found it.03:00
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Kannixjvai: So I cannot use WPA wlan without notification bar switched on? That inhales!03:00
jvailol03:01
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gothenburg;)03:01
greenmanwell crap.  i somehow deleted the status message.03:01
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greenmani installed nfs-kernel-server and it didn't start.  how do i start the nfs server03:01
laptop_anyone know the where automatix2 installs the firefox java runtime plugin?03:01
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lostatc!mp303:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:02
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LocoMancan anyone help me get the altgr key working?03:02
georgygreenman sudo /etc/init.d/nfs start03:02
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jmdcivx: apt-get remove X03:02
sethkdonfilipo, in preferences, downloads, view & edit actions03:02
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ivxjmdc ahh alright thank you03:02
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greenmanokay, looks like it won't start wihtout exports .  i'll set one up03:03
Kannixjvai: Well, thanks for your patience and your help anyhow!03:03
lostatcIs there a tool or way to "Create" MP3s? I have an MP3 player and cannot use OGG?03:03
donfiliposethk wait my firefox is another lingo i must look...will be back03:03
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sethkdonfilipo, ok03:03
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oblibCan anyone tell me what package is needed for 'glx' to be enabled with an nvidia driver?03:03
jmdcivx: use the --purge option to delete all associated configuration files as well03:03
LjL!automatix | esaym03:03
ubotuesaym: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.03:03
CadteachI'm having trouble with audio on an iMac.03:04
prophetdoes SAMBA have  a GUI03:04
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shuanis there any way i can watch a shockwave movie? i have firefox 2?03:04
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kevinubotu... really? is there an alternative?03:04
Falstiu1neonempyr: you can get the UMS (the mass storage firmare) here http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/ums.aspx   .... the new T30 (the updated version of the ifp-790 I have) doesn't have a UMS version though.03:04
iratsucan anyone help me connect to my cellphone via bluetooth?03:04
shuani tried to download shockwave plugin but it says its not available for linux03:04
greenmani always get the ln wrong.  what comes first where you are linking to, or where you are linking from?03:04
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ivxjmdc so do apt-get remove --purge x03:04
tritiumkevin: ubotu is a bot03:04
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oblibgreenman,, I believe it is "from" just like cp or mv03:05
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Natural_Highdoes anyone remember the name of that plugin for xmms hotkeys?03:05
LjLtritium: and kevin's not even that03:05
georgygreeman : from03:05
greenmanthanks03:05
Natural_HighI used to have it, but cannot for the life of me remember what it's claled03:05
Natural_High*called03:05
Psi-JackHmmm. Is there not a libsieve or libsieve-dev package for Ubuntu?03:05
__mikemKeven, ubotu is an irc bot03:05
shuanany 1 know how i can get a shockwave plugin for firefox 2?03:05
jmdcgreenman: you can use man to look up a command's manual page as well03:05
neonempyrFalstiu1: is there a list of their devices that are UMS compatible? I don't see one03:05
oblibIs there a way to repair a package without uninstalling it?03:06
jmdcivx: you're correct.03:06
rummikdoes anyone else get a garbled screen when they go to a console through ctrl+alt+f*?03:06
Natural_Highshuan: have you tried the macromedia website?03:06
esaymoh hmm. well waht is a replacement for automatix? easyubuntu?03:06
ivxjmdc thank you sir03:06
Natural_Highhmm...03:06
greenmanjmdc: i did. :) it's confusing.  and i think i did it wrong.  :)  (too many levels of symbolic links)03:06
Natural_Highoops03:06
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tritiumesaym: yes03:06
ivxjmdc or ma'am03:06
jribshuan: installing firefox through wine is the only way I knwo of.  Adobe does not have a native shockwave plugin for linux03:06
LjLesaym: the best replacement is reading the documentation, but yes03:06
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donfiliposethk can not find can you tell me in wich colomn are preferences File Edit View History.... are my columns if i translate it back03:06
Kannixjvai: since you are such a nice person and patient helper :) Do you know how I can replace the ubuntu-start-button (and only that one!) in the "Human" theme with the regular gnome paw?03:06
esaymi never could get it easyubuntu installed03:06
esaymhmm03:06
sethkdonfilipo, ok, one minute03:07
Jeshua(Been ages.) If anyone has the time, is it possible to edit the "Session" Menu on the Login Screen? Thanks in advance.03:07
jmdcivx hahaha03:07
Falstiu1neonempyr: that link lists UMS versions of the firmware that are available.  Even without the UMS firmware, there is an opensource utility that lets you use the dev with linux.  It is a little annoying though.03:07
LocoMancan anyone help me to get the altgr key working?03:07
Kannixjvai: I do not want to change the whole theme, just that one icon.03:07
greenmanah ha03:07
greenmangot it03:07
greenmanthanks guys03:07
ScrapeI'm using Xubuntu; how do I get the linux-wlan-ng drivers to load automatically instead of the hostap_cs driver? (Normally orinoco_cs gets loaded; I blacklisted that in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, but now it loads hostap!)03:07
neonempyrFalstiu1: looks like iRiver now suppors T series UMS: http://www.mtp-ums.net/03:07
georgygreenman,  ; no pb03:07
jvaiwait... i emailed the link bfore i installed dapper from hoary, lemme look it up03:07
Psi-JackHEYA: is there an ubuntu equivalent package to debian's libsieve2-dev?03:07
sethkdonfilipo, on the menu, you do:     edit/preferences03:07
sethkdonfilipo, that opens a dialog with 5 or 6 sections at the top:  general, privacy, content, *, downloads, advance03:08
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sethkdonfilipo, the * and the "5 or 6" is because it depends on what extensions you have installed (if any)03:08
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georgynikin,: some news ?03:08
donfiliposethk yes i have in my lingo it's Urejanje Nastavitve03:08
sethkdonfilipo, in any event, go to the "downloads" section.  It should be the last button, just above help.03:09
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Falstiu1neonempyr: cool.  I wish I had an excuse to buy a new one :)  They're about half as much now.03:09
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sethkdonfilipo, can't help with the language, if it isn't english or spanish I'm pretty useless :)03:09
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neonempyrfalstiu1: yep. thanks again mate, night03:09
Falstiu1neonempyr: np.03:10
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donfiliposethk i have it it's vrste datotek in my lingo...i was there before but....something is wrong03:10
rummikanyone know why i get a garbled screen on the tty's?03:10
jvaikannix u want the gone foot back dont u?  well, i pulled this bfore i upgraded  More options  Oct 2403:10
jvaihttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=4088203:10
jvai03:10
jvaiooops03:10
elyezersomeone programming c++ on anjuta ide???03:10
jvaikannix bookmark that03:11
CadteachAnyone with experience installing on a mac?03:11
Kannixjvai: Thanks. I'll look at it now :)03:11
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ivxdoes anyone know if pureftpd is as secure as they say?03:11
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ScrapeOr, why do I get repeated TX timeouts with my prism2 card using orinoco_cs? It seems to occur especially when I try to print via CUPS, such that I can't actually print. I'm 99% sure it's the network card... I can use the internet, but as soon as I try to print to my print server, I see tons of timeouts and NETDEV resets.03:11
iterivx: proftpd is good03:11
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donfiliposethk there i have 4 sorts of endings which i can edit but can not ad a new one....is that only in my lingo version??? probalby a bug or is there a trick????03:12
elyezersomeone help me with anjuta IDE?03:12
ivxiter and i have multiple accounts, each one link to a different directory03:12
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ZambeziI just installed a harddrive, but when I tried to format it I got an errormessage. How can I check for sure it's proper connected more than dmesg?03:12
sethkdonfilipo, let me look03:12
ivxiter *can i03:12
JeshuaHm.03:12
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iterivx: yes of course03:12
elyezeri need to compile c++ on it but i didn't. because library iostream is show problems03:13
Psi-JackIs there an ubuntu equivalent package to debian's libsieve2-dev?03:13
sethkdonfilipo, I'll see if I can discover how to add one.03:13
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Psi-JackI'm trying to get dbmail 2.1.7 to work on my ubunti-server, with sieve support.03:13
mortal5j1mc, get one with the atheros chipset03:13
sethkelyezer, I downloaded and installed the gcc source tarball, and anjuta is happy.  but most people think that's a terrible idea.03:13
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ivxiter well i tried vsftpd and can't figure out how to make it to that... would you say proftp is better than pureftpd03:14
donfiliposethk *.SPL, *.FLI, *.QTL, *.SQL are my endings wich are there but avi, wmv work fine not being there?03:14
JeshuaAnybody? I'm just curious about editing my session menu on my login screen.03:14
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jvaikannix in the ubuntu forums there was another menu theme w/ a niice gmone foot, but u gotta look for it in the posted desktop section, then read it03:14
sethkdonfilipo, there is also a mapping that is part of gnome (or kde, whichever you are running) and not specific to firefox.03:14
sethkdonfilipo, you get to it from the kde control center.  gnome should have something similar.03:14
greenmanI'm trying to mount an exported fs, i get this:  NFS Portmap: RPC: Program not registered03:15
greenmanwhat does that mean?03:15
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donfiliposethk aha i will look03:15
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mikeconceptswhat is falcon?03:16
mikeconcepts!falcon03:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about falcon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:16
elyezersethk, but when i include a library like iostrem show many errors03:16
Natural_Highhey, can someone help me with an xmms plugin problem?03:17
elyezersethk, i need to download the libraries for c++?03:17
georgygreenman,  : http://www-oss.fnal.gov/projects/fermilinux/common/faq/old/0021.html03:17
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ScrapeHow do I prevent one network card driver from being loaded in place of another? Blacklisting hostap doesn't seem to work.03:17
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sethkelyezer, I think you need the header files.  you already have the libs, probably03:18
ivxhow do you stop a program from the terminal03:18
LjLivx: ctrl+c03:18
sethkelyezer, look for packages with gcc and dev in the name03:18
sethkivx, killall  programname03:18
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jvaiback.. the wifi went out in here03:18
jvaiit's too many ppl in this place i'm @03:19
elyezersethk, i don't understand03:19
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iterivx: haven't used pureftpd but either should work03:19
slinky_i have a problem opening a program from a right click menu03:19
greenmangeorgy: so if I'm reading that right, then i have to change hosts.allow on the exporting machine?03:19
elyezersethk, i've downloaded g++ yet03:19
sethkelyezer, I know03:19
iterivx: pureftpd claims to work w/no config, so I don't know if that matters to you03:19
sethkelyezer, there are separate packages, sometimes, for the libraries.  plus...03:19
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georgygreenman, : added the host(s)03:20
sethkelyezer, executing programs only need the .so files, but to build you also need the headers (iostream, used to be called iostream.h, etc.)03:20
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elyezersethk, need dev package too?03:20
sethkelyezer, right, to get the headers03:20
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sethkelyezer, also probably to get debug versions of certain libraries, that sort of thing03:20
elyezersethk, sudo apt-get dev???03:20
greenmangeorgy: ?  added the host(s) ?03:20
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sethkelyezer, no, you need the entire package name  :)  I'll get you an example03:21
CadteachAnyone with experience installing on a mac?03:21
elyezersethk, ok03:21
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slinky_i grep-ed the system and can't find my problem, anyone like to help03:21
georgygreenman, : I mean add the hostmachine in /etc/hosts03:22
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greenmangeorgy: ah, i shoulda done that anyway.03:22
sethkelyezer, an example:  package libstdc++6-dev03:22
MrWooi just upgraded to edgy, and my all of a sudden my X-server died, I have no gui03:22
sethkelyezer, run synaptic, click on search, type in libstdc03:22
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georgygreenman : sorry, /etc/host.allow03:22
sethkelyezer, that will show you all packages with libstdc in the name.03:22
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greenmangeorgy: *not* /etc/hosts?03:23
elyezersethk,  libstdc++-dev03:23
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elyezer?03:23
georgygreenman,  : no in /etc/hosts.allow03:23
sethkelyezer, I have libstdc++6-dev, not libstdc++-dev03:23
slinky_i don't know where to look to try and solve my problem03:24
w01anyone know how i can put java in a package to install/everything i've tried doesn't seem to work03:24
sethkelyezer, use the search.  In fact, use synaptic, it makes life easier.03:24
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greenmanso, like this:  ALL: 192.168.1.*/255.255.255.0 ?03:24
elyezersethk, i'll try this03:24
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whyameyeso dapper and edgy are now sharing this channel? I'm not finding much online resources for edgy and my install suggested lots more bugs than w/ dapper. Are people having success with edgy?03:24
elyezersethk, i'm searching... my pc is too bad03:24
bruenigwhyameye, I am having great success with edgy (xubuntu)03:25
sethkwhyameye, edgy has been out for, what, hours?  a few days?  of course it has glitches.03:25
sethkwhyameye, now that edgy is out, I'm going to move to dapper03:25
sandy16hi there03:25
georgygreenman, : i guess03:25
sethkwhyameye, which is what you should do unless you _need_ something in edgy.03:25
whyameyesethk: it's a release. When dapper was released it was already better than breezy03:25
greenmank03:25
bruenigsethk, unless you use your desktop for tinkering and messing around with stuff of course03:25
sethkwhyameye, not true, there were many glitches in it.03:26
whyameyebruenig: you have cups working for you?03:26
bruenigwhyameye, yep03:26
elyezersethk, so that is a easy mode to i install anjuta 2.0.2?03:26
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sethkbruenig, sure, but then you expect a few glitches.03:26
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sethkelyezer, sure, you can install it from synaptic.  just search for anjuta, click on it, right click, say install03:26
whyameyesethk: ok. My experience with dapper was different than yours then.03:26
slinky_Admiral Chicago: can you try to help me with a problem?03:26
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sethkwhyameye, I didn't personally have problems with dapper, I helped many many  people who did.03:26
elyezersethk, but i'm using breezy badger03:26
ZehRiquehello, could anyone help me installing grub on my new computer?03:26
sethkelyezer, that's fine, so am I03:27
ZehRiquePVT me03:27
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greenmangeorgy: that didn't work03:27
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shadowhywinddoes anyone know hot to get superkaramba to read net stats?03:27
donfiliposethk i can not find it....it is not as somple in gnome as in kde looks like but there is also another thing....if i open *.ram file (real media) normaly from let us say clippboard link it opens ok only if i click a link in firefox browser it opens in a remain of something which did never work....so probably i need to know in wich file exaclty this settings are and edit them manualy old fassion way typing....so is there any expert in firefox?03:27
bobbyyuMy Kubuntu crashed on itself and now I lost the Java path03:27
slinky_sethk: can you try to help me with a problem?03:27
elyezersethk, i'm brazilian you're understanding me good?03:27
bruenigsethk, your theory of upgrading is very problematic, if everyone follows your theory of wait for a long time and then upgrade, the glitches are never found because nobody uses them and then nobody ever upgrades03:27
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bobbyyuCan someone plesae tell me how to export a java path in Linux?03:27
sandy16can any body tell me how to restore the loading screen from kubuntu to normal ubuntu?03:28
sethkbruenig, no, the glitches just aren't found by _me_.  actually, I have two machines I upgrade.  my production boxes I wait.03:28
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bruenigright but if your upgrading strategies are used by everyone, they aren't found by anyone03:28
sethkbruenig, true, but never fear, there are always tons of people who want it RIGHT NOW  :)03:28
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bruenigright03:29
brueniglike myself03:29
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LubixPlease Help! on the log off menu there is no Shut Down Computer option i dont know where it went or how to get it back!!!03:29
bruenigI will be your shield to system failure03:29
slinky_where do i go to get help?03:29
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haydukeMy ATI Radeon 9600 Pro is in an AGP port, but the bustype in the Device Manager says it's pci... also, I can run at 1024x768x24, but the mouse cursor is messed up, and windows lose their content (become all white) until I move them off the screen and back on again...03:29
halo8888#kalubugan03:29
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shadowhywindanyone know how to get the net stats working in karamba03:30
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haydukeI also have two entries for my video card, Primary and Secondary... these may be referring to the two ports though.03:30
LubixPlease Help! on the log off menu there is no Shut Down Computer option i dont know where it went or how to get it back!!03:30
bruenigLubix, try System>administration>gdm, make sure the box at the bottom is checked. I forgot what it says something like make options visible or something.03:30
slinky_anyone know how to get a question answered in this channel?03:30
sethkbruenig, as I said, I do update two machines, and I pound on them heavily.  I just don't give the bleeding edge release to my more ordinary users.03:30
bruenigLubix, System>administration>login window*03:30
shadowhywindslinky_ whats your problem? maybe i can help03:30
slinky_in the spirit of ubuntu, of course03:30
elyezersethk, there are some dependencies when i maked libstdc++6 now i'm installing03:30
sethkslinky_, there is so much traffic, I've forgotten what your problem is.03:31
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sethkelyezer, ok, dependencies are good, that's how the package manager helps save you tons of work03:31
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Psi-JackHeh, well, bleh. I just imported a debian deb-source, so I can build libsieve2. :p03:31
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bruenigslinky_, just ask your question03:32
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Lubixawesome >bruenig!03:32
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elyezersethk, sure03:32
ZehRiqueHelp installing Ubuntu 6.10 on a computer with 2 HDs!03:32
slinky_shadowhywind: when i right click on a mp3, the popup menu gives me two entries for "Open with Rhythmbox Music Player" but it i double click on mpe file it gives warning message that mp3 file is a document mp303:32
Lubixnow my next problem i cant get compiz to open!!03:32
irvinwhat is the correct way to disable acpi and enable apm in the kernel?03:32
bruenigLubix, go to #ubuntu-xgl03:32
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shadowhywindslinky_ that is werid, have you installed mp3 support?03:33
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=== slinky_ i uninstalled everyting and reinstalled several times and can't get rid of both open entries
slinky_yes03:33
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samuelsup all03:33
georgynikin, : hope it's work now03:33
bruenig!hi03:33
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!03:33
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georgyGreenaman : sorry i have to go sleep some hours03:34
samuelim trying to get my nvidia card to work for 6.10, but no luck... its a clean install, the VESA driver works fine, but nvidia states "no screens found"? any clues please?03:34
firebird619I just installed MythTV on Edgy and it is working good, but one question is how do I setup the channel guide to get correct information, and also, it works on the mythtv account, but what do I do to get it working on the user account I usually use for everything else?03:34
bruenig!nvidia | samuel03:35
ubotusamuel: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:35
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jvaiwhat's mythtv?? i keep hearing bout it03:35
samuelbruenig, thanks, ill give that a try03:35
bruenigjvai, mythtv is like tivo from what I understand, I am sure a quick wikipedia ought to do a lot of help03:36
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georgynight all03:36
kitchejvai: sorta like Windows Media Center but with just the tv part and better03:36
jvaioo ok to the wiki i go.. ty soo much bruenig03:36
elyezersethk, good now is compiling, thank you for all03:36
sethkelyezer, np, good luck03:36
jvaisoo, mythtv, can stream my hbo show "the wire"?03:37
mirakhow to enable the hibernating mode ?03:37
slinky_shadowhywind: where can i look to find file extension associations?03:37
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shadowhywindi don't know, i am sorry. its a long shot, have you tried to open the mp3 up with say amarok?03:38
slinky_shadowhywind:no, but at this point i'll try anything, thanks03:38
elyezersethk, there are a mode to i put number on lines in anjuta?03:38
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slinky_shadowhywind: i've been programming since 1964 but new to linux, this appears to be a system uninstall problem03:39
shadowhywindoh03:39
iratsushould i be using this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup to set up bluetooth?03:39
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iratsuit doesn't mention gnome-bluetooth03:40
shadowhywindanyone good with superkaramba?03:40
sethkelyezer, there is, but I don't remember it off the top of my head.  I don't have it running here, it's on my machine at work.03:40
sethkelyezer, look for it, it's there somewhere03:40
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elyezersethk, ok thank you so much03:40
frederick85Does anybody know which application is a good GUI frontend for MYSQL admin03:41
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Flannelfrederick85: isn't MySQL admin a GUI frontend?03:41
firebird619Can anyone tell me how to setup mythtv so that it gets the correct channel guide information, right now it shows Unknown for everything?03:41
frederick85Flannel: i'll try running it from the console03:42
kitcheFlannel no it's not a gui frontend03:42
samuelhow am i supposed to know what my nvidia card is? http://pastebin.ca/231876 i have an nvidia geforce 6500... but it doesnt seem to show there03:42
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slinky_shadowhywind: thanks for your help, i'm going to reformat and reinstall everything, been 5 days trying to solve this, only takes an hour to reinstall, thanks again03:42
tehbrandonhttp://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.303:42
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shadowhywindi hate to see you do that03:42
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tehbrandon^ Good information for mythtv listings03:43
anderbubbleis there any way to set the volume label of a fat/vfat partition without mtools?03:43
shadowhywindwhat did amarok say?03:43
D00B3Y`please help!!! http://pastebin.ca/231875 ... I added the repositories and everything!!!03:43
anderbubbleand if not, how do I do it with mtools?03:43
frederick85Flannel: Mysql Console is a console program, i'm looking for something like  GTK prog or something03:43
Flannelfrederick85: MySQL has a GUI frontend... "MySQL Query Browser" is the real name, I suppose03:43
kitchesamuel: those are just your chipset you have a nvidia chipset in your computer?03:43
slinky_shadowhywind, so do i but ... unknown error, unknown resolution03:43
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samuelkitche, apparently03:43
shadowhywindthats werid, have you got any sound working?03:43
D00B3Y`does anyone know?03:43
Gevaudan82Flannel: there's the gui mysqladmin and a console mysqladmin...the former is basically to edit users, set permissions, and import/export dumps...the console can basically do everything that the gui can do03:44
kitchesamuel: you have to install the video driver still if that's what you want to install03:44
Flannelfrederick85: and, then 'MySQL Administrator', is for administration03:44
samuelkitche, i also have an nvidia graphics card, could it be X is crashing because it doesnt know what one?03:44
D00B3Y`please someone help me?03:44
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slinky_shadowhywind: sound plays if i select Open with Rhythmbox but fails if i double click on mp3 file, says "its n mp3 document" Warning...03:45
kitchesamuel: no see what driver your X is using it's most likely using vesa if you didn't install the binary driver or enable the nv driver03:45
frederick85Flannel: most servers don't bother running X so you need to be specific about MYSQL I think03:45
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FlannelD00B3Y`: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL/compiz related support03:45
shadowhywindslinky_ so your sound works perfecly fine, just not on opening?03:46
iratsuwhy is hidd --search unable to find my bluetooth device?03:46
Flannelfrederick85: it doesn't need to be on that server, you can use MySQL Adminstrator/Query Browser from a remote machine, they're separate programs03:46
donfilipoanyone knows in wich file mozilla&firefox have written with what helper application they should open *.ram streams (real media)????03:46
slinky_shadowhywind, well it did before i uninstalled everything03:46
samuelkitche, its using vesa, ive tried to get nvidia working but no luck so far... i just read i need the specific kernel for my cpu... so ill install that first then see what i see03:46
D00B3Y`Flannel, thanks03:46
shadowhywindslinky_ what do you mean everything?03:46
frederick85Flannel: what is the name of the Query Browser?03:47
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frederick85Flannel: in my case I want it on the same machine, my purpose is just for testing03:47
Flannelfrederick85: "MySQL Query Browser" : http://mysql.com/products/tools/03:47
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Flannelfrederick85: right, but they're entirely independant of each other03:47
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frederick85Flannel: thanks03:48
slinky_shadowhywind: music player, totem , all codecs and mp3 stuff, reinstalled only ubuntu desktop, totem, music player and gstreamer, but still end up wuth two entries in popup menu when right clicking to play file03:48
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frederick85Flannel: so I type sudo apt-get install "Mysql query browser"03:48
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Flannelfrederick85: no, I have no idea what the package name is.  Or even if it is one.  Let me look.03:49
sanmarcosfrederick85: apt-cache search mysql query browser, see the package name03:49
shadowhywindsliny_ i asumed you tried to rightclick on the file, select your program and say always open with that program03:49
frederick85flannel: i asked my good friend google03:49
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Flannelfrederick85: "mysql-admin" : http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/admin/mysql-admin03:50
slinky_shadowhywind: with everything uninstalled comletely including configuration files i still get one entry to Open with Rhythmbox music player03:50
frederick85sanmarcos: that search method isn't as reliable as google I find03:50
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Flannelfrederick85: and "mysql-query-browser"03:50
shadowhywindoh, that is a little over my head03:50
sanmarcosfrederick85: you have to know how to use it, --names-only. and grepping out, using quotes03:50
sanmarcosfrederick85: just as google, brother.03:50
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slinky_sharowhywind: that works fine if i reinstall everything but i get two entries in menu and an error if i double click on mp3 file03:50
Flannelfrederick85: or, since you're using a GUI, search in synaptic.03:51
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slinky_shadowhywind: i can not get rid of the last Open with Rhythmbox Music Player in the popup menu every after uninstalling03:51
oblibI just updated to Edgy -- does anyone know why emacs can no longer find a good font?03:52
ScrapeAnyone help me solve some issues with a wireless net card under xubuntu?03:52
sanmarcosoblib: because emacs doenst use xft/fontconfig03:52
sanmarcos!doesnt work > Scrape03:53
kitcheScrape: chipset of your wireless card?03:53
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ppmstrhell with ati drivers.03:53
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Scrapekitche: Prism2, I believe. It's a D-Link SWL-650. It works w/ the orinoco_cs driver... EXCEPT... it generates a lot of TX timeouts, especially when I try to print to remote print server... enough that I can't actually print.03:54
slinky_shadowhywind: I'll move my data files over to a windows drive and i'll reinstall ubuntu, something is wrong in a configuration file and i just dont know where to look yet, thank you very much for your help03:54
JuJuBeeI thought that I would get Firefox 2.0 if I upgraded to edgy?03:54
JuJuBeeI still have 1.5.0.703:54
ppmstrI'm currently trying to use fglrx with no success for an ati radeon X1600... anyone can provide a hand? xorg error logs reports several io allocations errors... (if you want I can post the log on some pastebin)03:54
mirakaptitude wants to remove fspot and such, I don't understand why03:55
jstarcherAnyone good with GRUB? I have a windows partition that I want to reformat to a linux FS but I think it will mess up my boot config03:55
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miraknow aptitude wants to remove mysql, that's insane03:55
shadowhywindhope your problem is fixed after the reinstall, sometimes that is the best, before we start pulling hair out03:55
Psi-JackOkay, for PostgreSQL 8.1, what's the main admin user set to, in Ubuntu?03:56
shadowhywindanyone use karamba03:56
slinky_shadowhywind: i so much agree, thanks again03:56
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ppmstranyone can help with that sort of classic ati driver config problem03:56
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kitchejstarcher: it won't mess up the config really03:57
ppmstrFor myself I'm getting quite sick of it.03:57
ScrapeW/ no files in /etc/pcmcia by default, how does Ubuntu figure out what driver to load for a given PCMCIA card?03:57
kitcheScape: ok have you tried a different channel by chance for your card and router? to make sure there isn't something interfereing with them03:57
teledynScrape: could there be radio interference from a nearby AP on the same channel?03:57
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kholer I tried camorama but get error "Could not connect to video device (/dev/video1). Please check connection." I'm using the edgy livecd on a laptop with a webcam. ANy siggestions?03:58
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jstarcherkitche: I have windows on the primary boot partition and linux on a logical partition. I won't have a boot partition if I format the windows partition. It will still work?03:58
Scrapekitche: I have two laptops... one does just fine, the other doesn't. Identical setups, except for the cards.03:58
ScrapeIdentical configs, I should say, not identical laptops.03:58
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kitchejstarcher: well /boot in linux should be a primary partition so it might mess up if your boot isn't on a primary partition03:59
variantwtf is it with azureus? its been broken for months and noone will fi it03:59
glombool!nvidia-glx03:59
variantfix*03:59
ubotunvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8774+2.6.17.5-11 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB03:59
ScrapeI'm trying alternate drivers for the card. Hostap_cs is worse than orinoco_cs. O03:59
teledynScrape: maybe one card is higher powered than the other?03:59
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ScrapeI'd like to try wlan-ng, but can't figure out how to make it work. I've blacklisted orinoco and hostap so they don't load, but still no luck.03:59
Scrapeteledyn: I'm 10 feet from the router.03:59
jstarcherkitche: I think I made grub on my MBR though. I can't seem to find a config file. There are some files in /boot but not grub.conf04:00
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Scrapeteledyn: And, it worked fine under Win98.04:00
kitchejstarcher: /boot/grub/menu.lst is what you want04:00
shadowhywindvariant what is wrong with azureus04:00
teledynScrape: maybe an issue with the driver.  i don't know.04:00
variantshadowhywind: nm, i see that the bug was fixed recently :P#04:00
Scrapeteledyn: that's what I'm figuring. Trying to use alternate drivers, but can't get wlan-ng to work.04:01
ppmstrah fuck off this ati shit... forums are cracking with unanswered post with people trying to get their card working,,, Feels like I have better things to do than figure out why there are bad i/o allocation for my divers...04:01
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jvaimythtv is too heavy for me, i installed then uninstalled, i ran into dependency probs on the install04:01
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jstarcherkitche: ahhhh thanks!04:01
nikinwhat program should i use for remote accesing X?04:01
mehello04:01
meeverybody04:01
variantppmstr: mind your language, and thats what youget iwth proprietry drivers :P04:01
teledynScrape: you could always build wlan-ng from source and load it manualy04:01
kitchejstarcher: but the formating the windows shouldn't effect grub since it has nothing to do with windows since it sits on the linux partiton04:01
oblibsanmarcos, can I fix it?04:01
teledynScrape: just modprobe -r  the other modules04:01
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sanmarcosoblib: get emacs cvs04:01
jstarcherkitche: so when I delete the primary dos partition do I leave the boot tag on it?04:02
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ppmstrvariant: As far as I know nvidia are not quite open drivers though, they work.04:02
blazeHello all04:02
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metoday I have installed ubuntu, when I installed ubuntu with DVDI got sopport for my reader of cards, but now I installed with CD and I did not get it, what do I have to do?04:02
Scrapeteledyn: The module is loaded, but it doesn't seem to see the device.04:02
jstarcherkitche: remember that's the one that has windows. I will be splitting it into a couple smaller partitions as well04:02
ppmstranyways,... spent to much time on that.04:02
variantppmstr: they are certainly not open, and they have thier own share of problems04:02
ScrapeDo PCMCIA modules have to be associated with the device ID somehow, or should it, if it's loaded, automagically find it's device.04:02
variantpprandom lockups to name one04:02
teledynScrape: did you install linux-wlan-ng04:02
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Scrapeteledyn: yes. Doesn't seem to do anything.04:03
blazeI am just getting ubuntu running for the first time, and I was wondering if any one could point me in the right direction to find ubuntu resources04:03
kitcheteledyn: I checked wlan-ng supported devices and it seems like Scrape's card isn't supported04:03
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teledynScrape: the module loads.  can you ifconfig the device up?04:03
ryjaxanyone ever get a 'received broken pipe signal' error when configuring cvs for sending emails?04:03
metoday I have installed ubuntu, when I installed ubuntu with DVDI got sopport for my reader of cards, but now I installed with CD and I did not get it, what do I have to do?04:03
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oblibsanmarcos, do you know if emacs will be fixed in Ubuntu eventuallly, or will I always have to compile on my own?04:03
kitchejstarcher: well grub doesn't care really what partition is tagged as bootable really04:04
Scrapeteledyn: nope04:04
kholercan someone help me with getitng my webcam working? I tried camorama but it gets an error04:04
metoday I have installed ubuntu, when I installed ubuntu with DVDI got sopport for my reader of cards, but now I installed with CD and I did not get it, what do I have to do?04:04
sanmarcosoblib: its not about fixing, nothing is broken. A feature is not supported04:04
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sanmarcosoblib: and distros do not include CVS versions in most cases, try #emacs04:04
cam_does anyone know if there will be a 686 kernel for edgy. becasue the 386 is really slow!04:04
teledynScrape: i don't know if maybe there's some parameter on the card you can tweak with the prism driver using the iwpriv command04:05
metoday I have installed ubuntu, when I installed ubuntu with DVDI got sopport for my reader of cards, but now I installed with CD and I did not get it, what do I have to do?04:05
oblibsanmarcos, so do I need to enable something specifically before I 'make' the CVS version? and why did it work before but doesn't now?04:05
kholerme: I'm no quite sure what you mean..04:05
kholerme: you have a card reader and its not working?04:06
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sanmarcosoblib: I dont use emacs.04:06
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mekholer: my card reader does not work04:06
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metoday I have installed ubuntu, when I installed ubuntu with DVDI got sopport for my reader of cards, but now I installed with CD and I did not get it, what do I have to do?04:07
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keltenHow do I see what permissions each file has in a folder?04:07
cam_yes we can see the message me: but you need to explain it a bit better04:07
MTecknologyWhat was the command to monitor the data a device is processing? I tried cat /dev/ttyS1 to 7 but got an error "cat: /dev/ttyS1: Input/output error"04:07
oblibsanmarcos, 'CVS version' of a program usually just means the most recent, possible exerimental, version, right?04:07
teledynkelten: ls -l04:07
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zanopholI have installed edgy with gnome and kde. When I login, I have huge fonts for login and password...is there something I need to change in my xorg.conf, since this seems independent of gnome or kde?04:08
mecam_: my cards reader does not work04:08
kitcheMTecknology: is it a terminal device?04:08
keltenWhats the command to find out what distro im running and what version04:08
sanmarcosoblib: cvs head, yes, I suggest you #emacs, again04:08
MTecknologykitche, it's a stylus04:08
meI insert a sd and it does not work04:08
MTecknologythat i'm trying to monitor04:08
ryjaxif i'm in the wrong channel for cvs help, can someone tell me where to go pls?04:08
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wladstonI'm facing a bug on firefox. I'm on edgy. It will only show up pages when I redimension my window04:08
kitchekelten: uname -a will show you all the information you want04:08
keltenIt jsut says Linux though04:09
teledynkelten: lsb_release -a04:09
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keltenokay, thanks04:09
sethkkelten, that tells you info about the kernel, really, nothing else04:09
cam_mme: any output from dmesg after inputing a card?04:09
reversebladehow can i switch to metacity as default with beryl ?04:09
oblibsanmarcos, but this seems to be a problem with the Ubuntu package -- it worked in Dapper, but doesn't in Edgy. It seems like a distro shouldn't distribute a bad package...04:09
sethkkelten, I was talking about uname, not about lsb_....04:09
sanmarcosoblib: its free, dont complain04:10
wladstonnoone can help me to fix firefox ??04:10
sethkoblib, then we wouldn't have anybody to help here04:10
MTecknologykitche, do you know?04:10
keltenya, i know04:10
wladstonwow04:10
sanmarcosoblib: fix it yourself, thats the motto04:10
kitcheMTecknology: nope04:10
wladstonnot it asked me to report a bug04:10
MTecknologydamn04:10
wladstonok04:10
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oblibsanmarcos, not everyone can do that (but I suppose people who can't woudln't be using emacs) so it makes sense to try to fix the package. Is this worth filing a bug on?04:11
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oblibsethk, what do you mean?04:11
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sanmarcosoblib: yes it is worth, and people who can do use emacs a lot04:11
baboguys, does the ubuntu ff installation come with the DOM inspector on it ?04:11
cam_riversblade: i think you are confused, metacity and beryl are do the same thing. You can only be using one or the other04:12
jribbabo: install firefox-dom-inspector package04:12
oblibsanmarcos, I guess my question really is "Is emacs broken in Edgy, or is it likely something specific only to my set up"?04:12
mjbjrit seems to me that if you're "unixy" enough to use emacs, you're "unixy" enough to be using a "real" linux distro   ;)04:12
sethkoblib, I wasn't being serious.04:12
oblibsanmarcos, do you know if it is universally broken in edgy?04:12
babothanks04:13
sanmarcosoblib: dont use emacs, and its called edgy for a reason04:13
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sethkoblib, seems unlikely, since it hasn't changed in ages, but I can't be certain.04:13
ianmacgregoremacs is a nice OS.04:13
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kitcheianmacgregor: yeah the text editor is nice also :)04:14
teledynoblib: check to see if there are any outstanding bugs matching yours04:14
oblibIs anyone else having problems here with emacs in Edgy?04:14
oblibteledyn, is there an easy way to do that, or do I just need to search Launchpad?04:15
teledynoblib: i don't know, but imagine there's some ubuntu page where you can search for bugs by package04:15
Farnabyoblib, I haven't had any problems with emacs yet but I don't use it much04:15
oblibFarnaby, can you pull it up in Gnome and see letters? All I'm getting is boxes (bad font)04:16
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Farnabyoblib, I was able to a while ago, yeah04:17
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oblibFarnaby, in Edgy?04:17
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FarnabyI beieve I pulled it up sunday morning which is after I converted yeah04:18
Farnabybelieve even04:18
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hocminI'm having problems getting mp3 support with a fresh install of ubuntu.  Most sites I find searching suggesting installing various gstreamer packages, but that doesn't seem to be helping04:18
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whyameyehocmin did you try:04:19
whyameye!restricted formats04:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:19
Farnabyhocmin, one of the two problems I have found since I upgraded to edgy is that quark no longer seems to be willing to play MP3 files04:19
hocminwhyameye: no, but I'll take a look at those.  Thanks04:19
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oblibOkay, looks like someone's reported a bug already : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xfontsel/+bug/5780304:19
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FarnabyThe other issue I am having is that my screensaver is fubared04:21
Fracturehi.  I keep getting "Message from syslogd@localhost" etc.. messages in every console on my machine.  How can I stop this ?04:21
hocminwhyameye, taking a quick look at those pages it appears that it's suggesting I convert all my mp3's to ogg?04:21
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FarnabyAnd FF is now seeming to crash a lot, odd04:21
dibblegowhen upgrading I got into trouble with apt-get and samba - http://rafb.net/paste/results/sjqsTh39.html - how do I resolve it?04:21
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swizI just upgraded to 6.10, and my network seems to be borked.  I can return pings from sites, but I can't make any sort of connection (http, ssh, ftp) to any location.  Any ideas?04:23
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whyameyehocmin: I think it's there, interspersed with the ogg stuff.04:24
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kmastaok what the crap, i just upgraded to edgy and now X server has crashed, it says it cant find my video drivers04:26
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FarnabyI just realised that it won't let me download libggi2 for edgy...04:26
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kitchekmasta: try installing your driver for your video card should be sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-<driver>04:27
Farnabywonder if thats whats causing my screensaver bork04:27
neonempyrQuicksilver-like app launcher for Ubuntu?04:28
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swizjust upgraded to edgy, but I have a network issue.  All of my pings are returned, but I cannot make a tcp or udp connection of any type (ssh, http, etc).  any ideas?04:28
kmastakitche, it was working just fine with dapper though04:28
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kitchekmasta: try reinstalling the video driver though it might fix your problem04:29
neonempyrswiz are you wireless?04:29
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FarnabyDoes anybody else use quark?04:29
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kmastakitche, am I supposed to put like ATI where you wrote driver04:30
neonempyrswiz: are you wireless?04:30
kitchekmasta: yes if you have an ati card04:30
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kmastakitche, well in that case it says I already have the latest version04:30
kitchekmasta: if your using the binary driver you have to reinstall it since edgy uses a different kernel then dapper04:30
swizneonempyr: no, wired lan.  worked fine in 6.06 and in a dualboot on another os, so its not the network itself.04:30
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kmastakitche: i have no idea what that is, Iwas just using the ATI driver that  came with dapper04:31
jvaioop there he is04:31
swizi did?04:31
AlanHaggaiI had used the synaptic manager to download kubuntu-desktop and all the dependencies. I downloaded all of it and didn't install. How to install it now?04:31
neonempyrswiz: Are you pinging domains or your router?04:31
kmastakitche: i noticed the driver in xorg.conf was set to vesa, i set it to ATI and thats still didn'twork04:31
kitchekmasta: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and pastebin it if you can04:31
FarnabyGDI. Gnome screensaver is still borked. Won't let me select another screensaver other then BioF. When I try I have to forcequit04:31
jvaiaftr the question about quartz, it said u left swiz04:31
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swizneonempyr: i checked the router and other machines on the local netork, and machines on the internet itself04:31
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neonempyrswiz: are your domains resolving to an IP address when you ping?04:32
swizneonempyr: yes04:32
kmastakitche, hold on onesecond don'tmove04:32
kitchejvai he did part then he returned right after probably swiz just hit a wrong key04:32
jvaioo ok04:32
neonempyrswiz: so your other apps don't have internet access then, right? nothing else?04:33
Rav|strangleris there an .chm viewer on linux?04:33
kitchekmasta just say my name and my client will beep sicne I m sorta watching tv at the moment but don't mind helping since I have tv on my computer04:33
Rav|strangleror built in to ubuntu04:33
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swizneonempyr: as far as I can tell, nothing network related past pings works.  i can't connect to anything besides pings.  but it gets better.04:33
AlanHaggaiok friends, found it :)04:34
kmastakitche; ok i got it04:34
obo12Anyone here proficient with vim?04:34
swizneonempyr: i upgraded earlier today, and things were working fine.  i was doing some tasks, and great.  then this problem struck.  but i had just done a clean install, so i figured i must hve messed something up, so ill save time and just reinstall pure.04:34
whyameyeRav|strangler, try gnochm. I think it's in the ubuntu repos.04:34
Rav|strangleroh ok thanks04:34
kmastakitche: what am I looking for04:34
swizneonempyr: but ive had the same problem on 3 vanilla installs since.04:34
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AlanHaggaiHo obo1204:34
AlanHaggaiHi04:35
kitchekmasta: look for any errors mostly lines that start with EE is probably where you find what is wrong04:35
neonempyrswiz: I had a similar problem with my ethernet when I installed dapper, let alone edgy. my router appeared to be fine just like you04:35
obo12AlanHaggai: Hello04:35
Perissattoi have worked with vim at long time.04:35
kmasta(EE) no drivers available04:35
neonempyrswiz: did you happen to have your ethernet unplugged when you installed?04:35
MrProper_Hey all, im having a problem with edgy and rdesktop, screen refreshes are borked. if i drag another window over an rdesktop/tsclient window, it will not refresh that section04:35
swizneonempyr: no, plugged in04:35
AlanHaggaiobo12 : what is the problem?04:35
kmastakitche04:35
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kmastakitche (EE) failed to load module "fglrx"04:36
kitchekmasta: ah you have to reinstall the binary driver04:36
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obo12I'm using vim to transparently edit gpg files via the .vimrc file at http://www.vi-improved.org/wiki/index.php/VimGpg04:36
kmastakitche: what the hell, why?04:36
obo12This has worked fine on Fedora before04:36
kitchekmasta: as I said edgy uses a different kernel then dapper04:36
neonempyrswiz: under System > Admin. > Networking , what are your DNS servers?04:37
kmastakitche, ok how do i reinstall binaries04:37
obo12but edgy is giving me some issues04:37
MrProper_kmasta: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx04:37
swizneonempyer: not sure, id have to reboot in and get back to you on that one.  should i?04:37
obo127 lines filtered04:37
obo12shell returned 204:37
obo12138 lines filtered04:37
obo12Error detected while processing BufRead Auto commands for "*.gpg":04:37
obo12E121: Undefined variable: ch_save04:37
obo12E15: Invalid expression: ch_save|unlet ch_save04:37
Xenguyobo12: could you just decrypt, then edit?04:37
obo12E20: Mark not set04:37
tritiumkmasta: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>04:37
AlanHaggaiobo12 : oh I see!!! Sorry. I don't know that :(04:37
swizneonmpyer: i think theyre coming from my ISP but im not sure04:37
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obo12Xenguy: Yes but thats a hassle. The transparency is the whole point really ...04:38
kitchekmasta: the package name is xorg-driver-fglrx04:38
eegoreHas anyone had isssues with ubuntu when playing UT and choppy performance when hitting a server?04:38
neonempyrswiz: Right well your DNS should be. One sec before you reboot04:38
Xenguyobo12: Mmm04:38
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blazeHey all04:38
kmastakitche, so what do I type04:38
nardis_mileshas anyone worked with the new version of fstab?04:38
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kmastasuod apt-get install xorg-dirver-fglrx04:38
kitchesudo apt-get install --reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx04:38
Perissattowhat software i need use for work with bluetooth cellphones on ubuntu?04:38
obo12It decrypts, allows you to edit and re-encrypt the file again, all from vim04:38
blazeWhen I try to update my software preferences to alter my repoisitories it always fails when trying to reciveve the package lists04:38
disasmhey, off topic, but does anyone know a good freenode channel to get help with posix compliant c code?04:39
neonempyrswiz: check to see if you have servers in that DNS tab I just mentioned and try again your internet apps04:39
MrProper_Perissatto, sudo apt-get install gnome-bluetooth04:39
Xenguyobo12: one step I assume - sweet04:39
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MrProper_Hey all, im having a problem with edgy and rdesktop, screen refreshes are borked. if i drag another window over an rdesktop/tsclient window, it will not refresh that section04:39
kmastakitche, this problem sucks, why would ubuntu do somethign like this, I thought they took care of everything when i did the upgrade04:39
obo12Xenguy: Yeah really neat.04:39
swizneonempyr: ok, bb in roughly 5 or so04:39
obo12Now that I can't do it, I relize how much I miss it04:39
MrProper_kmasta, not really fglrx is a binary piece of poo04:39
kitchekmasta: well the binary drivers are like that for all the distros04:40
neonempyrWhy does fglrx have to suck so much04:40
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FarnabyHrm, it appears that my xine libs got borked in the upgrade as well04:40
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MrProper_kmasta, if you dont want to have to do this, just switch the driver to 'ati' instead of 'fglrx'04:40
neonempyrand Why did I buy a laptop with an ATI card in it?04:40
kmastakitche: i tried that04:40
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MrProper_neonempyr, well its made by ati thats explanation enough04:40
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kmastakitche, i was originally set to vesa, then I changed it to ATI04:41
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neonempyrCouldn't have said it better04:41
kitchekmasta: well fglrx is not ati ati is Xorg04:41
MrProper_neonempyr, im just hoping the fact that amd bought them means changes for us04:41
neonempyrMrProper_, I'm hoping as well04:41
Farnabyargh, this screensaver issue is annoying04:41
MrProper_fglrx still comes from ati regardless of the fact that xorg package it04:42
kmastakitche: i guess i'm just used to being spoiled with windows where when I update Idon't have change a bunch of stuff I had no idea I had to change when I upgrade04:42
kitcheMrProper_: umm ati is xorg's open source wrapper04:42
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neonempyrThey're just scared they stepped on a patent04:42
neonempyrAnyone have any opinions on their favorite laptop in terms of compatibility with ubuntu?04:42
studenthai felipe04:42
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MrProper_kitche, we werent talking about the 'ati' driver, we were talking about the 'fglrx' driver04:42
obo12So do we have any VIM experts in the house?04:43
necritehello04:43
MrProper_obo12, whats your prob?04:43
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studentare u shit in me?04:43
Xenguyobo12: check out #vim04:43
kitcheMrProper_: umm ubuntu calls it xorg-driver-fglrx not Xorg Xorgh doesn't package fglrx04:43
necritehello04:43
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studenthai04:43
obo12I'm using vim to transparently edit gpg files via the .vimrc file at http://www.vi-improved.org/wiki/index.php/VimGpg04:43
swizneonempyr: dns was the local ip address of my router, which compred to another machine on the network, is set as appropo04:43
studentu son of a bitch04:43
obo12Xenguy: Need to register or some shit like that04:44
Xenguystudent: be quiet04:44
MrProper_kitche, regardless, fglrx really comes from ATI04:44
studentdalok04:44
swizneonempyr: but now, i'm back in edgy and things seem to be working.  FM04:44
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nardis_milesHas anyone looked at /etc/fstab in edgy? If so, do you understand how to edit it?04:44
neonempyrswiz: oh so you're working all right in edgy then?04:44
kitcheMrProper_: yes it does but you got what I said wrong04:44
obo12MrProper_: It worked in Fedora, but won't in edgy04:44
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lazzarethGday04:44
swizneonempyr: yeah, but its fkn magic.  i dont understand why it wasnt working before, but magically is now, after 3 reinstalls and a dozen or so reboots.04:44
kmastaquestion: why do I have to manually update fglrx, shouldn't that be something ubuntu takes care of when it tells me that it's updating everything for me04:44
neonempyrof course it doesn't really matter what wraps what does it?04:44
MrProper_kitche, hehe possibly, its been a long day04:44
neonempyrfglrx still pretty much sucks a butt04:44
neonempyrswiz: I had the same deal, couldn't pin it down04:45
MrProper_yeah04:45
MrProper_god i wish my work gave me an nvidia laptop.....ati just fuels my annoyances at them04:45
swizkind of funny -- im trying to prepare a presentation for tomorrow, and this is the absolute worst time for something like this to happen.  i was more than a little peeved.  thanks for the help.04:45
kmastaoh hell yes, it works04:45
neonempyrswiz: was hoping we could figure something out; I'm sure it's something simple but deceptively...deceptive. glad it's working04:45
whyameyekmasta: what DID it do? switch you over to the ATI opensource drivers?04:45
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mineralewhat's the name of the default ftp server that comes with ubuntu?04:46
swizneonempyr: exactly.  and its not even something that you can easily google or look for.  i only found one pertinent response, and it was an unanswered forum thread regarding a similar issue.04:46
Xenguyminerale: I recommend vsftpd04:46
kitchewhyameye: no kmasta had to reinstall fglrx since an upgrade changes kernel04:46
neonempyrAll we can do is pray for the day that ATI and NVidia both will care that we get pissed off about this stuff. One solution: WORLD DOMINATION04:46
Farnabyalso, if I don't get quark sorted I am going to get real peeved at NIN since thats all I have in OGG04:46
whyameyekitche: so it didn't change his xorg.conf file when he upgraded?04:46
kitchewhyameye: no it did not04:47
kmastakitche: WHY DIDN'T IT CHANGE THAT FILE04:47
mineralexenguy: I'm looking for the ftp serer with the lowest overheaed04:47
Xenguyminerale: it is very lean and fast04:47
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jvaign all, i gotta get home.04:47
Xenguyminerale: moreso than proftpd or wu04:47
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MrProper_kitche, do this: aticonfig --initial && aticonfig enable04:48
kitchekmasta: well don't think the xorg package has a xorg.conf in it since it does autodetection04:48
MrProper_kitche, this will rewrite your xorg.conf to use the correct ati crap04:49
kitcheMrProper_: sorry but I m a nvidia user :)04:49
kmastakitche: what does that mean04:49
MrProper_oops that was meant for kmasta04:49
MadHatte1hey, has anyone put ubuntu on a dell latitude D820 before?04:49
kmastakitche: why didn't the auto detection work04:49
MrProper_or whoever had the problem with fglrx04:49
slappy1986Can/Will anybody here help me with geting a wireless card working on my powerbook?04:50
kmastayea,i had the problem with fglrx04:50
kitchekmasta: xorg will write it's own config if it doesn't see one already in /etc/X11 with vesa or ati depending if you had the ati driver installed04:50
kmastaand when i upgraded the kernel it forgot to cary over my xorg.conf file04:50
kmastaand when i upgraded the kernel it forgot to cary over my xorg.conf file04:51
whyameyedoes anybody use clamav and is there any point to using it?04:51
kmastathe xorg.conf that worked that is04:51
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kmastacorrect kitche?04:51
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kitchekmasta: no your xorg.conf had fglrx which the new kernel didn't know that it was installed since it needs ot be compiled against the new kernel04:51
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MistaEDwhat the hell? ubuntu is stuffing around today i can't click on something properly until i go to like a tty and back to xorg and even then only some things will click04:51
tagok04:52
kmastawhy didn't the new kernel know about that04:52
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taganyone use GPRS?04:52
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swizfinally on a real client :] 04:52
blazels04:52
whyameyekmasta why are you so stuck on this?04:52
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kmastacause I'm trying to learn so that next time I have the problem I can figure it out myself04:52
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kmastai'm new to linux, this is a learning experience for me04:53
blazeHey, any ideas as to why I can not add multiverse repositories to my sources.list? They are refusing to connect for some reason04:53
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kmastait's not enough to know how to fix the problem, i wanna know what caused it04:53
Xenguykmasta: relax, it takes months and years ;-)04:53
MadHatte1can anyone help me install drivers for my wireless card?04:53
kmastaxenguy, gotta start some where though right?04:53
blazeMadHatte1: you must be much more specific04:53
Xenguykmasta: but you got the right idea :-)04:53
UFO64unless you can get an operator to DL the linux program right into your brain....04:53
UFO64anyone got a cell phone?04:53
MadHatte1its the one in the dell latitude D82004:53
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blazewhat sort of card?04:54
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dibblegoafter upgrading 6.06 to 6.10, when I drag a window, it is very clunky and doesn't update properly - what might the problem be?04:54
shebangbinbashanyone have the ubuntu cert yet?04:54
kmastaso when the new kernel compiled, it didn't compile with the xorg.conf fromthe dapper kernel?04:54
whyameyekmasta: I think part of the issue is that fglrx is proprietary so ubuntu's support for it is probably a bit less than say the ATI open source drivers. If you were using the open source drivers when you upgraded, it would have been smoother. When using proprietary drivers, distros like ubuntu are more likely to crack.04:54
MadHatte1intel proset wireless 3945abg04:55
kitchekmasta: The reason a single binary driver will not work across a kernel series is the lack of internal API and ABI (application binary interface) compatibility in the kernel.04:55
Ademanthis is the weakest thing ever, i tried to install the k3d package and the install script didn't work, and now i can't uninstall it either cause it wasnt to run the post-install script first04:55
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XenguyAdeman: edgy ?04:55
slappy1986anybody know how to get my laptop to detect my wireless card?04:55
Ademanyessir04:55
XenguyAdeman: mmm04:56
phargleplug it in04:56
slappy19861150 delltruemobile, it says on the website its supported04:56
slappy1986it freezes if i put it in04:56
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slappy1986and if i put it in and boot it don't finish booting lol04:56
Ademanthe install script complained about a python version, so i figure it wants an older version (probably 2.3 or something) so i think i could get it to completely install, but is there any way to just cut it out?04:56
kromelHello, I've done searches and tried to follow guides.  I recently installed Beryl which removed restricted.  Now my wireless no longer works.  Can someone point this newb in the right direction on how to get my wireless working again?  sorry for long post.04:56
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kmastakitche: but it wasn't like i changed it to fglrx when i first installed dapper, i just used what was ever default. why wouldn't that default config carryover, that seems like something you'd wanna make sure stayed the same between kernels04:56
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kitchekmasta: it's a ubuntu thing but according to your Xorg.0.log use used binary drivers04:57
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FarnabyI am sure I will return, just like Mcarthur04:57
slappy1986ok i got it in how do i tell if its on?04:58
jordanWhat is the offical way to upgrade to edgy on a machine without X?04:58
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Xenguy!edgy04:58
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)04:58
necritehi04:58
necritehello04:59
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kmastakitche: funny, i don't remmeber switching to binary....04:59
kmastakitche: O WAIT, SON OF A........04:59
jordanXenguy: And the official way to upgrade with update-manager and no X is?05:00
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kmastanvm05:00
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iratsumy computer is able to find a bluetooth device when running hcitool scan, but not while running hidd --search. is this normal?05:00
kmastait has all become very clear05:00
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kmastathank you kitche05:00
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kitcheno problem kmasta05:01
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kitchejordan: change your source.lst so dapper says edgy05:02
kitchejordan: then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:03
jordankitche, But the wiki warns NOT to do that05:03
w01i am having trouble getting java on my machine any suggestions05:03
jordankitche: "Upgrading using apt-get -- NOT RECOMMENDED"05:03
w01i downloaded self extracting file (bin)05:03
swizwhile logged in as user _a_, i cannot have a shell open with user _b_ and use any commands like gksudo or gedit (basically anything graphical)  how can i fix this?05:04
kitchejordan: then download the cd if you want to feel safe downloading the iso is good also05:04
Gevaudan82w01: why? just do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-sdk after enabling the extra repos05:04
w01can i multiverse and universe?05:05
jordankitche: So the only way is to run the update script from the alternate cd?05:05
w01from the synoptic manger?05:05
Gevaudan82w01: add them...when in doubt follow the guide at ubuntuguide.org and add the repos mentioned in there...note that PLF is no longer maintained so comment that out as well as the last one in the list, the listiner repo or something like that05:05
kitchejordan: yeah if you want to feel safe05:05
jordankitche: Thanks.05:06
w01ok thankyou!05:06
Gevaudan82w01: if you want or edit /etc/apt/sources.list05:06
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kitcheswiz: it's due to the fact that only root can do what you want try sudo su user_b and see if it will let you be user_b in your X05:06
swizkitche: no dice05:06
tagI'm trying to use my phone as a GPRS modem, but LCP seems to be unable to work properly with it05:06
tagOct 31 20:06:00 sludge pppd[16145] : Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyACM005:07
tagOct 31 20:06:31 sludge pppd[16145] : LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests05:07
LinLenLapHiya.... I just downloaded paintball2 from digitalpaint. used to play it on windows. How do i get it to run?05:07
tagthat's as far as it gets05:07
LinLenLapI think the website figures if you're using linux, you'd know this.05:07
LinLenLapCan't find any info.05:07
SlackRatkitche, got bored in ##slackware? no problems to fix??  :P05:07
swizkitche: i open a term as user _a_ while logged inas user _a_ via X, su - to root, and su to the different user, and attempt to start the gtk app.  no dice.05:07
kitcheswiz: there is probably a way to do it with sudo but I m not a very knowledgeable person for sudo05:07
swizkitche: that gives me some ideas i can try.  thanks.05:08
MadHatte1why does the command "make" not work?05:08
LinLenLapI've tried things like "paintball2.sh" from within the directory.05:08
kitcheSlackRat no I been very bored in many distro channels but never get bored here :)05:08
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Gevaudan82MadHatte1: sudo apt-get install build-essential05:08
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swizMadHatte1: last time i checked, make was not installed by default.  not since hoary, i believe.05:08
LinLenLapThe creator, Jitspoe, emailed me once telling me how, and it was a simple thing, like unpack then type "xxxxxxx", but I don't remember what the command was and have lost the email.05:09
MadHatte1thank you very much05:09
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SlackRatkitche.....and why is that?05:09
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LinLenLapI came here to ask since I'm running excellent edgy and I think the issue is simply about making this file executable.05:10
kitcheSlackRat: I hang out in a lot of the advance distro channels05:10
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flakeis there a way around the redraw problem when using wine05:10
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flakeand some gdi application05:10
kitcheSlackRat: so I get bored since most of those channels there is no help and I don't like #gentoo that much so I don't go in that one05:11
pixelPOETLinLenLap, try sudo chmod +x [appname] 05:11
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neonempyrMindmap software?05:12
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LinLenLappixel: sudo chmod +x paintball2 returns no errors, after which "paintball2" returns nothing at all.05:12
Gevaudan82LinlenLap: are you typing ./paintball2 or paintball2...the former is correct05:12
SlackRatso youre giving back help to new users here cause the advanced distros generaally roll their own and dont have wall to wall newbs learning linux?05:13
troopaI try to install Ubuntu and the X server fails. I fix this by reconfiguring it and using the VESA driver. This starts X just fine, and I can even hear the music that the installation has. However, it seems to shut my LCD off (it just goes amber light and I can't see anything). I read some bug reports and tried commenting out some problematic modules X wants to load like they said, but nothing works.05:13
Gevaudan82meh ubuntu can be as advance as you want it to be...i choose it mainly for the hardware support05:13
troopaDoes anyone else have problems getting Generic LCD displays working with Ubuntu?05:13
pixelPOETLinLenLap, chmod should output anything...05:13
pixelPOET./paintball2 returns nothing at all?05:14
FarnabyHrm, can't figure out why BioF is causing me such a headache05:14
LinLenLapGevaudan82: I was typing the latter. The former attempts to run the program and then runs into some GL issues. I'll have to look into those on the forums since I'm just running a fresh install and haven't looked into my intel 915 driver much.05:14
kitcheSlackRat: I give back to the community anyways I am a guru or dev for SourceMage05:15
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Gevaudan82LinLenLap: try typing glxgears and see if it runs at full speed...might be an opengl issue05:15
SlackRattrue, i like the ease of installation but spend a week trying to get it back to a more debian state, without all the gui clutter.....05:15
pixelPOETLinLenLap ... then the program will run once you get all your graphics drivers installed...05:15
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Gevaudan82SlackRat: do you even use a GUI?05:16
LinLenLapGLXGEARS returns: .libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b05:16
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SlackRatbut so far ,  advanced configures in ubunt work, unlike a few other distros....heh, i use a gui all the time.....its what my consoles open on and i can move em all round05:16
SlackRatlol05:16
Gevaudan82LinLenLap: you don't have your graphics driver installed or your card does not support opengl/3d rendering05:16
LinLenLapI don't want to bother you or pixel anymore...I'm gonna try to work the driver thing out on my own first. Many thanks for getting me going though!05:16
slappy1986anybody here know how to go back to earlier kernels and such? Ithink thats the only way to get my wireless card to work05:16
pixelPOETLinLenLap, it's no bother... thats what this channels for :D05:17
LinLenLapisn't there a command to test if open gl is working?05:17
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LinLenLapopengl05:17
LinLenLapglfx05:17
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pixelPOETusually its glxgears ;)05:17
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pixelPOETso based on that its a good assumption that yours isnt.05:17
Gevaudan82slappy1986: glxgears...if you don't see gears spinning in real time it's not working05:17
damian_hi, im just wondering where the config file for ->menu->Administration->networking is located, i enter my dns into the box to get my internet working but next boot it hasnt saved, very frustrating!05:17
kitcheSlackRat: yeah I only use a gui really is to browse the web since some pages are hard to read on links05:18
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LinLenLapOK...yeah, I see the gears turning...not sure how fast they're supposed to go, but they're moving pretty quick.05:18
Gevaudan82damian_: a number of places.../etc/network/interfaces is one05:18
LinLenLapah, glxinfo05:18
ianmacgregorI have some .mpeg's of a friends wedding. Is it possible to take these and make something that will play on a stand-alone DVD player? If so, which app(s) should I look into?05:18
EchoBinaryhello room :)05:18
Gevaudan82damian_: /etc/hosts is another05:18
LinLenLapThis is the card I have to look for the driver for, correct?05:19
LinLenLaplibGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b05:19
LinLenLapoops05:19
EchoBinaryi have a small home network of some windows boxes that i would like ot automagicaly backup to my ubuntu file server - any suggestions?05:19
LinLenLapOpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc05:19
LinLenLapOpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915GM 2005022505:19
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damian_but will these files affect gtk applications?05:19
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Xenguyianmacgregor: some players will play that already...05:19
Gevaudan82EchoBinary: if i were you i'd use acronis on the windows boxes to backup to ubuntu via samba...there's always rsync but there's a lot of complexity involved05:20
Xenguyianmacgregor: otherwise you can convert to DVD format05:20
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ianmacgregorXenguy: Mine won't :(05:20
ianmacgregorXenguy: How would I do that?05:20
flake..05:20
EchoBinaryGevaudan82: is acronis free?05:20
SlackRatdesktops ashould be like desktops, places to lay out the work youre doing, and guis for some apps are the ideal way to work.....i dont wanna edit images on a console screen, or  play music via command line necessaryily......or code html pages in a console, thats just masochism05:20
Xenguyianmacgregor: dvdauthor will convert from mpg to dvd05:20
Gevaudan82EchoBinary: nope05:20
EchoBinaryok05:20
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ianmacgregorXenguy: Thank you05:20
Ademani tried to install k3d and it failed on the post-install-script and now trying to uninstall it it won't work either, it seems to call the post-install-script, is there any way to ignore the error it throws? or maybe to just delete it all together?05:20
Xenguyianmacgregor: I can give you some command-line if you want (that's all I have)05:21
Gevaudan82EchoBinary: it's a very well made program though..much better than synaptec's ghost05:21
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ianmacgregorXenguy: Can you pastebin the cli stuff?05:21
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Xenguyianmacgregor: ok, hang on05:21
pixelPOETLinLenLap, type that exact error into google...look through the pages that come up05:21
firebird619Is there a way to get MythTV to work with an account other than the mythtv account so I don't have to log out and in everytime I want to use it?05:22
Xenguyianmacgregor: /join flood05:22
damian_Gevaudan82 and sorry what would i enter in these files to set my dns05:23
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kitcheSlackRat: see I mostly use my linux box for java programming and ircing really05:23
Gevaudan82damian_: i can't remember honestly...know that in ubuntu if you are using dhcp you won't be able to permanently set your dns...it will default to your router...change it to static ips and then your dns sticks05:24
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Xenguyianmacgregor: talk to me05:24
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Xenguyianmacgregor: if you weren't a macgregor, I wouldn't wait this long =)05:25
damian_Gevaudan82 of course, i have recently had to reflash my modemrouter much be assigning ip's again i will do that, thanks05:25
damian_must*05:25
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FarnabyArgh, i am ready to stab gnome screensaver05:26
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ianmacgregorXenguy: I"m looking into #flood. Sorry, but I have joined a channel before that auto-Klined me before and don't want to do that again. I'm a cautious person.05:27
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cyanid3I'm having issues mounting a usb hard drive in edgy.  the related dmesg is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29653/05:28
Xenguyianmacgregor: flood is quite safe05:28
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Xenguyianmacgregor: it's for flooding :-)05:29
LinLenLapThanks pixel... going through it now. At least I know it should support it. Also, I discovered through x11/xorg.config that I'm usign the right driver... now the fun part...05:29
Xenguyianmacgregor: besides, that's pretty tame behaviour for a scot, isn't it? :-)05:29
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ianmacgregorXenguy: Well, she's changed her mind now. But, thank you for the willingness to help with this.05:30
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Xenguyianmacgregor: anytime :p05:31
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Ademani tried to install k3d and it failed on the post-install-script and now trying to uninstall it it won't work either, it seems to call the post-install-script, is there any way to ignore the error it throws? or maybe to just delete it all together?05:32
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swiz /quit05:32
swizer05:32
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EdiehowHELP05:33
Ediehowi need to cd ~/nx05:33
Gevaudan82Ademan: you mean k3b?05:33
Ediehowbut i can't do sudo cd!05:33
Gevaudan82Ediehow: if you really must enable root by typing sudo passwd root and then su -05:33
AdemanGevaudan82: actually no, k3d is a 3d software package05:33
Gevaudan82Ademan: sorry, carry on :)05:33
MadpilotEdiehow, you don't need sudo to use cd05:33
AdemanGevaudan82: hehe, i hadn't heard of it till today, and now i wish i didnt, cause it screwed up dpkg lol05:34
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EdiehowMadpilot: yes you do, if you don't have access to that person's home dir05:35
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LilandraHi! I have a question about filesystem formats05:35
MadpilotEdiehow, true, if something is set to 70005:35
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Madpilot!ask05:35
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:35
Lilandraoh sorry...05:35
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Lilandrawhen i launch gparted, and i right click on a partition and select format to, there are grayed out options (like ufs). what is ufs? (is that the other format mac os x uses)  Also, how would I enable ufs? and xfs?05:36
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dieselAnyone know what happened to the XFCE composite extension in Edgy?05:37
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dibblegowhy is moving gtk windows around so clunky in 6.10 (but not 6.06)?05:37
crimsundiesel: are you referring to the Composite tab in Settings> Window Manager Tweaks?05:38
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dieselcrimsun: yes05:38
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troopaI try to install Ubuntu and the X server fails. I fix this by reconfiguring it and using the VESA driver. This starts X just fine, and I can even hear the music that the installation has. However, it seems to shut my LCD off (it just goes amber light and I can't see anything). I read some bug reports and tried commenting out some problematic modules X wants to load like they said, but nothing works.05:38
crimsundiesel: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2006-October/002243.html05:38
JavaDeveloperAnyone encounters a crash on MySQL Query Browser 1.1.17?05:39
firebird619Is there a way to get MythTV to work with an account other than the mythtv account so I don't have to log out and in everytime I want to use it?05:39
dieselcrimsun: excellent.  Thank you05:39
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Ediehowthx05:40
Ediehowbye05:40
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dieselcrimsun: one more question, do you know why I can't use :syntax in the version of VIM in Edgy?05:40
dieselversion 7.0.3505:40
crimsundiesel: which vim packages are installed?05:40
crimsun(I use nvi, so I can't answer that)05:40
Alter-Egoare there docs for ubuntu-server ltsp5 ?05:41
slappy1986gevaudan82: they are spinning really slow i got a slow computer whats that mean?05:41
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slappy1986that has nothing to do with a wireless card working right?05:41
dieselcrimsun: your question (which vim packages) caused me to look...I apparently have vim-tiny, so I will be installing vim-full05:42
axa-axaCan someone please tell me how can I downgrade some package (in this case new 2.0 FireFox) ?05:42
Gevaudan82slappy1986: it means you don't have opengl enabled or incorrect drivers05:42
cyanid3I'm unable to mount an external usb hard drive.  Here's the `dmesg | grep usb` : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29655/05:42
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axa-axaCan someone please tell me how can I downgrade some package (in this case new 2.0 FireFox) ?05:44
pibarnasgnome-settings-manager can't record my settings... does anyone is going through this?05:44
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Gevaudan82axa-axa: just sudo apt-get remove firefox and then install the 1.5 version from source or .deb files05:44
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mygodlinuxjsp05:45
mygodjava05:45
ubuntudfaultiuyiuygt785d65d7659o876f768o05:45
mygodIDE??05:45
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axa-axaGevaudan82: How can I install version 1.5 with apt-get or where can I download firefox 1.5 for Edgy Eft?05:45
Gevaudan82axa-axa: you can't without mixing repos...best bet is to install from source or using .deb files05:46
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magicnorrican anyone help me with the azureus program it wont work as standard user but works as root user05:46
axa-axaGevaudan82: but where can I find that .deb file (firefox 1.5)?05:47
SlackRatdebian or dapper repos05:47
Gevaudan82axa-axa: no clue...i'm sure it's out there somewhere05:47
mckinnojquick question: how can I find out which version of wine I have?05:47
cyanid3magnicorn did you check the permissions of the executable?05:47
mygoduanme -a05:47
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larz3mygod, apt-get install tomcat505:47
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JavaDeveloperwhere's the command Traceroute in ubuntu now? I can't seem to find it05:48
larz3JavaDeveloper, you need to install it05:48
user-landmagicnorry, try deleting the azureus files in your home dir.05:49
JavaDeveloperlarz3: alright...05:49
larz3JavaDeveloper, apt-get install traceroute05:49
JavaDeveloperlarz3: thans05:49
Legendrehi.. need help. What must I do, to install 6.10 from a USB key?05:49
fatliphow do i switch firefox's default player to vlc?05:49
fatlipi nee dthe vlc plugin, dont i05:49
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Gevaudan82fatlip: download the mediaplayerconnectivity plugin for firefox...your problems are solved05:49
coastermasterso if I install the kubuntu-desktop package while I'm in ubuntu, I can switch between GNOME and KDE as I please?05:50
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fatlipdone and done05:50
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fatlipthank ya :)05:50
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RobNycMasseR, whats up05:52
LegendreAnyone? Install 6.10 EE from a bootable USB flash drive?05:52
rellisThe copy of perl ditributed with ubuntu 6.06 was not compiled with gcc?05:52
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LegendreI'm trying to use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick but it 'taint workin05:53
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Legendreassume that this method has problems with 6.10?05:53
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jerpI'm having troubles gaining privileges to copying a patch on a game in my file sys.05:54
Legendrejerp = and sudo su - root doesn't do it?05:54
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magicnorriuser-land it failed05:54
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jerpI didn't know about sudo su ...I only used sudo05:55
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jerplet me try that05:55
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Legendretry on a fresh line: sudo su - root05:55
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Legendreyou will become root, then do the work.. and get back out of root asap05:55
Legendre*and then get back out05:55
mcquaidI know someone had a rep containing flash9 and some other stuff, but I can't find it now.  Is there a thread tracking all the users repositories?05:55
chris86wmim trying to use gnomebaker to burn a cd but it fails everytime i attempt to burn. could anyone help me?05:56
mcquaidit would be great if ubuntu had an equiv to apt-get.org/search for unofficial stuff05:56
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chris86wmim using an inspiron 6000 and edgy05:56
ebateschris86wm: fails how?05:56
Legendrechris -I'd just like to install edgy =/05:56
chris86wmebates, i tell it to make an iso, it makes a funny noise and tells me that it has failed05:57
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chris86wmi assume the funny noise the "burn failed" sound05:57
ebateschris86wm: lol...not much to go on, eh?05:57
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sanmarcoswhy the fuck when I close apps I loose the paste buffer, this is 2006..05:58
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botxjnaughty naughty05:58
botxjlanguage language sanmarcos :P05:58
botxj!language05:58
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:58
jerb_god darn it05:59
Gevaudan82my family curses like sailors05:59
Lathiatsanmarcos: There are solutions for that.05:59
botxjarrrrrrr ye matey05:59
jerplegendre, my command is cp -R <old location of files> <new location of files>  ???05:59
Lathiatsamiam: i dont think any fo them are standard in gnome yet05:59
siganyone know the engine name that gnome uses or comes default with ubuntu?05:59
sanmarcos!language > botxj05:59
sigmetacity?05:59
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Legendrejerp = sudo su is run by itself.. on a fresh commandline, type 'sudo su - root'05:59
botxj!language > sanmarcos05:59
Gevaudan82gtk?05:59
botxjtake that citizen sanmarcos!06:00
Legendreonce you are root, then do the work.06:00
Lathiatsig: metacity is the window manager that draws the borders are windows06:00
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Lathiatsig: gtk is what draws the window parts06:00
Legendrebrb06:00
sanmarcos!language > botxj06:00
jerpI did that and got root then ran that command and got a "cp: cannot stat"06:00
FarnabyOk, WTF, I can't even change the screen saver to a blank screen06:00
botxjleviathan, why must you tempt me with your language warnings06:00
botxji call bot abuse on that!06:01
LathiatFarnaby: on ubuntu? I have a blank screen option?06:01
botxjpsych no i dont06:01
LathiatFarnaby: system->preferences->screensaver preferences ---- first item06:01
Legendrejerp = err.. then there is some other issue, not related to perms.06:01
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Legendrejerp - sounds like your cp command is malformed, something wrong with the path(s)06:01
chris86wmah ha! i have to run gnomebaker as root06:02
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chris86wmthat kinda sucks though06:02
jerplet me see06:02
ebateschris86wm: you do?06:02
ebatesodd06:02
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Legendrechris86wm - that is odd.. but typical linux thingy.06:02
chris86wmran "sudo gnomebaker" and now its burning06:02
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techrushi just installed the package "rubybook" using synaptic.....where is this book located ?06:02
Lathiattechrush: probably /usr/share/doc/rubybook06:02
chris86wmi dont want to do a sudo in terminal everytime i want to run gnomebaker though06:03
techrushcheers06:03
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sanmarcoschris86wm: dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord06:03
ebatesyeah, that is odd06:03
sanmarcoschris86wm: suid it06:03
mister_robototechrush: do "dpkg -L <pkg-name>" to see the files associated with an installed package06:03
techrushthanks06:03
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Legendreso, I ask again: how can I set up, to boot ubuntu & install to HD, from a USB stick?06:04
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user-landmagicnorri, because you once started it as root. delete the folder with sudo.06:04
Legendrethe community page isn't working for me..06:04
FarnabyLathiat, I have tried that, more then once. Its stuck on BioF06:05
wheelswitchLegendre:  do you know how to make your computer boot from usb?06:05
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Legendrewheelswitch - yes, that is all OK.. problem is, syslinux can't find the kernel / initrd and so on.06:05
chris86wmsanmarcos, didnt work06:05
Legendrewheelswitch - followed all the instructions to a 'T'06:06
Farnabysorry lathiat, went to smoke to try and get a bit less pissed off.06:06
Legendrewheelswitch - is the method broken for 6.10?06:06
sanmarcoschris86wm: you have to relogin, if it doenst, then tough shit, have fun06:06
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wheelswitchnot sure06:06
wheelswitchi have only done it on 6.0406:06
sanmarcoschris86wm: read about unix permissions, and udev (good luck with that, udev, hah)06:06
wheelswitchi used this guide: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php?title=Ubuntu_USB_Install06:06
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FarnabyThis is actually turning into more of an irritatnt then the fact that I have lost so much multimedia support...06:07
Legendrewheelswitch - I've been working from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick06:08
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Legendrewheelswitch - thing is, I may have made an error.. when I copied the ubuntu cd over to the flash drive, I used -Rvpd06:08
Legendreand I'm starting to wonder if -d messed me up..06:09
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Legendresince you can't deref (ie create) symlinks onto FAT16 filesystems06:09
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Legendrehm, how does that work anyway? if you cp a symlink onto a fat volume?06:10
Legendregrumble.06:10
draremwhat's the command to return free and used disk space06:11
Legendredf -h06:11
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FarnabyAnybody else have any ideas for how to fix gnomescreensaver when its stuck on one setting (and the setting doesn't work)06:11
highnekodf -hT to show filesystem too.06:11
kupesoftIs there a sendmail replacement that just takes emails and sends them from another place via smtp?06:11
draremthanks06:11
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towsonu2003drarem, I love a tool called baobab, which shows you what is occupying how much space in filesystems you specify. just noting :)06:11
Gevaudan82kupesoft: not sure if i understand your question but postfix is generally considered to be the replacement for sendmail06:11
rawrnessIs it possable to make a window Vmmachine with a emachine recovery disk06:12
draremok i'll check it out06:12
Legendrekupesoft - sendmaill.conf got you down? :)06:12
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asterguys06:12
aster have ubuntu and installed xfce-desktop now06:12
asterhow to remove gnome-desktop??06:13
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ArrenLexaster: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce06:13
FarnabyI guess nobody else has any ideas06:13
Farnabyall of this just to get gnomepilot working06:13
LegendreFarnaby - what is gnomepilot, btw?06:14
knapperI'm having trouble removing drivers I installed using Nvidia's installer, anyone want to bite?06:14
rawrnessgag Nvidia drivers06:14
rawrnessevilness I tell you06:14
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knapperWhen I replace nv with nvidia it says cannot initialize glx. When I install nvidia-glx and replace nv with nvidia, it says version mismatch06:15
Farnabylegendre, gnomepilot is for palm pilots06:15
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LegendreFarnaby - ok. I always used Jpilot for that06:15
knapperhow can I get rid of all of it and just install nvidia-glx06:15
knapper?/06:15
ArrenLexknapper: If you installed from official nvidia package, will it suffice to run "/usr/bin/nvidia-installer --uninstall"?06:16
Farnabylegendre, gnomepilot is tied into evolution better from what I understand06:16
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LegendreFarnaby - ah, ok.. I've never been a real gnome/evo user.06:17
LegendreI use sylpheed mostly06:17
knapperhmm arrenlex, I will try that.06:18
knapperthanks06:18
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Farnabyunfortunatly it has borked my screensaver (which i suspect means some issues involving my video card which I cna't remember) and it has totally fubared any and all multimedia support06:19
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FarnabyI take that back, not any and all, but AVI and MP3 are gone06:20
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LegendreFarnaby - ick =/06:20
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FarnabyI am really getting midly pissed about it. I have no desire to do another reinstall06:22
pibarnasgnome-settings-manager can't record my settings... does anyone is going through this?06:22
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donfilipoanyone can tell how to enable XGL in Edgy i have heart it should be easy06:23
^Ocean^apt0get install beryl06:23
^Ocean^and emerald06:23
knapperOk, that uninstalled the nvidia driver, but it's still borked. I get error Nvidia kernel couldn't load. Module Nvidia not found.06:23
knapperThis after I have installed nvidia-glx.06:23
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^Ocean^knapper, you need to install the restricted kernel modules for ur kernal06:24
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^Ocean^or you can install the nvidia drivers from there website06:24
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rawrnessI am just reinstalling :p cause of my drivers06:24
rawrnessand KDE and GNome not liking each other06:24
^Ocean^no they dont lol06:24
rpk180I upgraded to edgy a few days ago.  Everything went smoothly.  However, emacs looks terrible now -- the font seems smaller and harder to read.  Any suggestions on how to go about making it look good again?06:25
rawrnessI have got KDM runing in gnome thought :P06:25
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rawrnessUse the Bleeper instead!06:25
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Adammki run linux on my laptop and want to run a linux program (Amarok) on my Windows Xp desktop computer. how should i do this? is Cgywin the best solution?06:26
FarnabyI also seem to keep getting a number of sleeping biof processes06:26
rawrnessAnyways i want to make a vmware machine for my windows06:26
LegendreAdammk - is there a cygwin port of Amarok?06:26
knapper^Ocean^ ok, well I don't find them in the repository. uname -r = 2.6.17-10-38606:26
knapper2.6.15 is what I find06:27
knapperor is it linux-restricted-modules-386?06:27
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lrephi, where does the c header files get installed in ubuntu?06:27
rawrnessbut i don't got a windows install disk06:27
lrepi've installed the kernel source already06:27
rawrnessjust a emachine sys restore06:27
kitchelrep: it's looking for the linux-headers06:28
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lrepkitche, come again.06:28
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Adammki don't think so. i'm currently trying to compile from source, but it says "The important program kde-config was not found" any idea where to get this? I've tryed to install kdebase, but oddly it says the same thing06:29
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kitchelrep: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.17-1006:29
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LegendreAdammk - you're in tough shape.06:29
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knapperWhat repository can I find linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386?06:30
lrepkitche, i'm installing vmware and it asked me for the C header files...do i still need to get the linux-headers?06:30
ArrenLexAdammk: do you have kdebase-dev installed?06:30
mohaghna111hi guys06:30
AdammkLegendre: i'd really *like* to get amarok to work on windows...06:30
LegendreAdammk - Amarok must dep on KDE stuff.. not a happy situation for cygwin.06:30
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kitchelrep: they are the same thing06:30
ArrenLex!linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-38606:30
ubotulinux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386: Non-free Linux 2.6.17 modules on 386. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.17.5-11 (edgy), package size 7701 kB, installed size 20892 kB06:30
AdammkLegendre: yep it does say Amarok is for KDE06:31
LegendreI haven't done much cygwin in the last few years, but that situation sounds fairly unworkable to me.06:31
ArrenLexAdammk: Amarok does not and will never work on Windows. The developers have blankly refused to port it.06:31
Adammkdang it06:31
Legendreyou'd need to have the whole required KDE framework built for a cygwin environment.06:31
lrep okay kitche where are the headers stored?06:31
rawrnessAmarok works real buggy in gnome06:31
lrep/usr/src/linux/include ?06:31
nothlithttp://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/06:31
rawrnessMine don't even dock :P06:31
knapperArrenLex: Check amarok's website. They said in the latest news entry that a windows port will be released soon.06:32
kitchelrep: you can point vmware there as well06:32
Legendrenothlit - lol. that's just wrong..06:32
rawrnesswindow port ummmm06:32
nothlit^^06:32
lrepkitche, that's where vmware is looking for...but there's nothing there06:32
ArrenLexOh. Wow, I guess I was wrong. Sorry, carry on. xd06:33
ArrenLexxD06:33
lrepkitche, i'm trying to locate the files so ican tell vmware where to use them06:33
kitchelrep yes install the linux-headers but the dev package06:33
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lrepok06:33
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nothlitwhy can't you just aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`06:34
SinnerGHow do I create a patch like oldfolder > newfolder  anyone knows?06:34
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knapperAdammk, ArrenLex: amarok.kde.com: "Amarok 2 will be based on QT4/KDE4 and will finally feature a Windows port, so for those of you that must use Windows, you will finally be able to have your rok and eat it too."06:34
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ArrenLexknapper: yes, I saw it06:34
knapperI think its terrible06:34
magicnorriuser-land cannot rm directory06:34
knapper:/06:35
Adammkknapper: cool but i'll try anyway in the meantime06:35
nothlitHow far is QT4/KDE4 away anyways06:35
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ArrenLexnothlit: Maybe Q3 2007?06:35
Gumbywhy is it terrible to have a linux app ported to windows?06:35
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nothlitArrenLex, ahh, ty06:36
Gumbyjust cause a person uses windows doesnt mean they should have to be a slave to iTunes and Windows Media06:36
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Rappermashey, are the repos broken again?06:36
LegendreGumby - it's not.. but trying to make windows into a KDE friendly envirnoment sounds like self-abuse.06:36
Rappermascompiz won't install on edgy06:37
nothlitGumby, i don't think its the porting that is so horrible, look at gaim/gimp/inkscape... but the idea of the necessity to port linux apps to windows is06:37
Rappermassays dependencies are missing06:37
LegendreI mean, KDE can't even get along with a lot of shiat on Linux.. and that's all open API :)06:37
dabaRYeah the repos are down06:37
ChippyRappermas: I had the same problem, so I just installed beryl :)06:37
GumbyLegendre:  its not kde, its amarok that is being ported06:37
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RappermasChippy: ok, i'll bite, how do i get beryl?06:37
Rappermasso i get a brand new card to use XGL and the repos are down, somehow, i'm not surprised06:38
ChippyRappermas: that depends.  jump into the #ubuntu-xgl and I'll help you out there06:38
lrepkitche, ok thanks i got it06:38
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nothlitRappermas, depends on your hardware and whether you want xgl or aixgl06:38
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Gumbynothlit: if anything, it will make more people realize that they are slaves to MS and Apple and that there are alternatives out there.06:38
nothlitaiglx*06:38
magicnorrican anyone tell me how to delete a hidden directory06:38
GumbyI say good on the Amarok people for doing it.06:38
pibarnasgnome-settings-manager can't record my settings on Edgy... can you help me?!?06:38
Adammksorry, i tried to convince my family to use ubuntu on our main household computer, but they like windows cause they know (for the most part) how to use it06:38
Gumbymagicnorri: rm -Rf .directory06:38
Rav|stranglerRappermas, v06:38
magicnorrithank you06:38
fignewXGL = :( ... aiglx = :)06:39
nothlitGumby, the problem is people don't really realise that a lot of programs can be run from linux or were originally from...06:39
Gumbymagicnorri: assuming you have permissions to do so06:39
Rav|stranglerRappermas, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12709006:39
ChippyRav|strangler: he disappeared :)06:39
Gumbynothlit: when they visit the downloads page for the application they just might06:39
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knapperWhat repository can I find linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386?06:40
Rav|stranglerohhh lag06:40
Rappermassee this is why i'm asking06:40
Rappermasxgl just crashed on me06:40
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Rappermaslol that's fun06:40
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Rav|stranglerdid you try ubuntu-xgl06:40
Rav|strangleror wait06:40
LegendreI'll ask again: Anyone have success using a USB flash drive as install media?06:40
Rappermasyeah i just joined06:40
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Rav|stranglerih oh ok06:41
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Rappermashopefully, i won't crash again06:41
Rav|stranglerI didnt get much help06:41
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Legendrethe CD on my lappy is flaked out, and I need to install from a USB stick.06:41
Rav|stranglerI didnt get it working on my ati laptop06:41
nothlitGumby, yes, but to tell people don't really see what they aren't looking for. i was ecstatic to find that almost all m essential applications could run on linux, but it didn't really happen until i was already burning install/livecds06:41
Rav|stranglerI'm going to try on my dekstop tomorrow06:41
towsonu2003Legendre, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 maybe can help06:41
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nothlitLegendre, i thinks theres a guide to it, i'll look for it06:42
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Gumbynothlit: I understand.  My only point really is that I cant see how a linux based app ported to windows is a bad thing as long as its a full featured application and not a stripped down POS.  I find it especially good because of the lack of applications, good or bad, that windows users have to use for audio.  I've used iTunes,  I dont understand how people put up with it.06:43
towsonu2003nothlit, I just posted an ubuntuforums link above :)06:43
boni!edgy eft06:43
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)06:43
Legendrenothlit - the community guide is not working for me..06:43
azurealhi, ubuntu server edition is REGPARM or NOREGPARM?06:43
towsonu2003Gumby, I'm just jumping in, but porting linux apps to windows actually makes switching much easier for users: it gives you common apps so you're familiar to some degree06:44
nothlittowsonu2003, ahh kk06:44
Legendretowsonu2003 - I don't want ubuntu installed to the flash drive.. I want to boot from the flash drive, and install onto the HD.06:44
bonihi everyone06:44
threat2hi06:44
DarkMageZGumby, i love iTunes, cept for the iPod handling... sure it works, but it's annoying06:45
threat2what ales you boni?06:45
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towsonu2003Legendre, what about this http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php?title=Ubuntu_USB_Install06:46
nothlitLegendre, oh, well I'm not really familiar with that sort of installation, are you trying towsonu2003 's link?06:46
DarkMageZGumby, what media player do you use?06:46
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towsonu2003!ping06:46
nothlitGumby, what are your opinions on winamp and foobar06:46
ubotuping: connection timeout06:46
azurealhow can i tell if my kernel is REGPARM or NOREGPARM...?06:46
MicrosoftSpyDoes anyone know how you put the speaker icon back on the app bar ? I tried right clicking and add but it doesnt seem to be there06:47
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rpk180Does anyone have emacs21 installed in 6.10?  Does it look crappy in X-windows for you too?  Any ideas on how to make it look good again?06:47
Farnabywow, now I have a whole new problem, and its a biggy06:47
kitcheMicrosoftSpy: add your mixer app back to the panel06:47
MicrosoftSpyAhhh thatd do it kitchie :) Thanks bud06:47
towsonu2003MicrosoftSpy, Add>volume control -that's what you're looking for06:48
Farnaby... I did a restart and now its saying that xserver is not configged properly and then it dumps me to a command line06:48
nothlitMicrosoftSpy, you couldn't re-add the applet?06:48
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towsonu2003how many ghosts did you have, lol06:49
MicrosoftSpynoth..nope how do you reconfigure sound ?06:49
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unfoFarnaby, what changes did you make since your last reboot?06:49
MicrosoftSpyappart from system prefs sound06:49
rpk180I tried doing a "dpkg-reconfigure emacs21", but it didn't help...06:49
unfoFarnaby,  e.g. what new stuff did you install / change? :)06:49
nothlitFarnaby, have you looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?06:50
unfoBin, hello :)06:50
FarnabyThats a very good question but i can't tell you since I can't even really seem to login06:50
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Gumbynothlit: I havnt used winamp for ages and Ive never heard of foobar.  Winamp used to be good before AOL bought it.  AFter that it just became bloated06:50
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unfoBin, you probably should change your nickname. type: /nick NICKNAME06:50
unfochoose a good nick for your NICKNAME.06:51
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nothlitGumby, AOL is evil06:51
GumbyDarkMageZ: I use Amarok06:51
MicrosoftSpyAnyone know how to get ubuntu to redetect sound ?06:51
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Farnabyall it really does is dump me to a flashing curser and nothing seems to work06:51
towsonu2003Legendre, be careful not to bork your grub by the way06:51
Gumbynothlit: no kidding.  The took a great simple media player and made it into something just awful06:51
nothlitFarnaby, i thought you said you were dumped into a command line06:51
unfoPoseidon, so now you're in IRC for the first time :) this is where many people discuss Ubuntu. and there is stuff both in English and in Chinese.06:52
unfo!zh06:52
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk06:52
unfoPoseidon: :-)06:52
FarnabyI thought I was at first now I am not so sure.06:52
Poseidonoh thanks06:52
unfoFarnaby, you have no clue what you changed?06:52
DarkMageZGumby, thought so :) there seems to be some sort of split. some peoples minds work one way, the others the other way.06:52
unfoPoseidon, but stay here :)06:52
towsonu2003MicrosoftSpy, sudo alsaconf maybe? but that's maybe! and probably incorrect. are you sure you can't add the volume control applet to the panel (right click on panel > add > volume control)06:52
nothlitGumby, oh foobar is supposed to be the serious audio app or something its pretty customisable and can grab direct control of the sound card before windows sound mixer remixes it06:52
GumbyDarkMageZ: try AMarok for two weeks then go back t iTunes, I bet you'll hate it then :)06:53
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Farnabyunfo, I re-ran xserver-xorg (which is the root of my problem i am sure)06:53
nothlitGumby, more serious audio codec support and stuff06:53
Gumbynothlit: cool06:53
unfoFarnaby, i agree. :-) what does re-ran mean?06:53
DarkMageZGumby, i had Amarok for a month06:53
orangedanyone having pgp errors when apt-get update is run?06:53
MicrosoftSpytowsonu: Yeah when i try to add the volume control it returns 'the panel encountered a problem when loading OFAIID GNOME_MixerApplet'06:53
towsonu2003Farnaby, unfo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I guess?06:54
nothlitFarnaby, are you saying you have two instances of Xorg open?06:54
DarkMageZGumby, some people are iTunes/rhythmbox people. others are ?/Amarok people06:54
Farnabyunfo, it had misdetected some stuff on the autodetect, namely the fact that some graphics where borked06:54
unfoborked?06:54
Farnabytowsonu2003 yes06:54
Farnabynothlit, I have 0 instances open06:54
GumbyDarkMageZ: I guess so.  rhythmbox and iTunes just seem so limited to me06:54
Poseidonare you often be here unfo?06:54
nothlitDoes anyone have an opinion on Songbird? the new mozilla app?06:54
Adammkguys, Legendre, ArrenLex, knapper, nothlit, it still says "The important program kde-config was not found"06:54
unfoPoseidon, not here in #ubuntu, but sometimes in #debian or #debian-devel06:54
unfoI am a big debian fan.06:55
Gumbyanyhow, its time to pack and see if everything fit into my travel pack. heading to Perth in 5 days.  woohoo!!06:55
unfoGumby, cool06:55
nothlitAdammk, a console doesnt have a cursor, anyways... ctrl+alt+f1      aptitude show kde-config06:55
nomasteryodanothlit, i have used songbird, but its not fast enough for my use...06:55
threat2Gumby: woot06:55
unfooranged, apt-get uses pgp to verify that all your packages were downloaded ok and not tampered with06:55
DarkMageZGumby, limited?06:55
threat2Gumby: say hi to quantumn for me06:55
unfooranged, but pgp does not always work perfectly :-)06:55
unfooranged, I would ignore the errors.06:55
unfoPoseidon, did you try installing ubuntu?06:56
Poseidonnot yet06:56
PoseidonI have something to do06:56
unfoPoseidon, you said you wanted to learn more, and that's the first step to it :)06:56
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unfoyou mean something else to do?06:57
Adammknothlit: Cgywin is pretty basic, it says aptitude isn't a command06:57
orangedunfo; it actually completely screws using automatix..06:57
Poseidonfor instance HTML06:57
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Poseidonor c++06:57
unfooranged, i don't know much about automatix.06:57
nothlitAdammk, oh yeah sorry, you're in cygwin06:57
orangedunfo,  Internal error: Good signature, but could not determine key fingerprint?!06:57
unfoPoseidon, you mean for school?06:57
MicrosoftSpyHmmm alsaconf not found you sure thats the right command ?06:57
orangedunfo, its still not something i'd like to ignore06:57
unfooranged, i would see if it's a known bug in automatix.06:57
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DarkMageZoranged, automatrix is not supported, and seriously disliked by the ubuntu devs. try a clean install of the system06:58
orangedunfo, i've been in #automatix discussing the problem.. it seems to be a problem with gpg06:58
Adammkany ideas?06:58
unfooranged, check for bug reports in launchpad and/or at the automatix site.06:58
unfoDarkMageZ, I heard that automatix is now dpkg-based.06:58
Poseidonno exactly   I am interest in that06:58
nothlitLegendre, did you make sure your usb drive either supports usb-hdd or usb-zip?06:59
orangedunfo, already done. :)06:59
unfoPoseidon, a good way to learn C++ is to install Ubuntu. it comes with a C++ compiler easily available.06:59
MicrosoftSpyAnyone know how to reconfigure sound ?06:59
Farnabywe will see if this fixes things... I can only hope06:59
crimsunMicrosoftSpy: in what sense?06:59
orangedunfo, it really has more to do with gpg then automatix. ;)06:59
rawrnessHow can i make windows work in vmware?06:59
DarkMageZunfo, i've been suspecting that as well. but the ubuntu devs still say it's bad. i might nuke a testbox with it laterz06:59
unforawrness, easy, just stick in the Windows CD-ROM when VMware is booting.07:00
MicrosoftSpycrim when i try to add the volume control it returns 'the panel encountered a problem when loading OFAIID GNOME_MixerApplet'. I tried deleting the sound card from the hardware list but it wont let me do it07:00
orangedDarkMageZ, why do ubuntu devs think its bad?07:00
threat2MicrosoftSpy: your secret is safe with me07:00
unfoDarkMageZ, good plan.07:00
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jon_Can someone help, how do I found out what services are running in ubunutu?07:00
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Farnabywhich makes typig hard07:01
DarkMageZoranged, it used to break systems, i can't verify if it still does07:01
MicrosoftSpythreat...Thanks bud :) will be sure to let the the big B know07:01
unfojon_: why are you curious? :)07:01
Poseidonoh really !!?as a matter of fact ,I am not familiar with Linux Cmd.07:01
threat2jon_: netstat -l07:01
threat2jon_: ps aux07:01
Gevaudan82jon_: ps -e07:01
crimsunMicrosoftSpy: what do you mean by "add the volume control"?07:01
FarnabyBloody hell07:01
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jon_I'm curious, as I can't get an ircd to let incoming connections in, but as far as I was aware I had no firewall07:01
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orangedDarkMageZ, it hasn't broken anything on this fresh install.. just apt refuses to install packages it can't verify07:01
MicrosoftSpycrimsum: Right click on task bar to add the volume control to the task bar07:02
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chuckyp!iptables > jon_07:02
unfoPoseidon, you do not have to know any commands. you can use the Anjuta IDE. it lets you click a button to compile your code.07:02
ixian_has anyone tried easyubuntu on ubuntu 6.10? does it work?07:02
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unfoixian_, check the website for updates :)07:02
chuckypixian_, its not recomended or supported here07:02
jon_chuckyp, yes I've allowed all the relevent ports through iptables and there are no rejected ports, but still no luck07:02
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MicrosoftSpyixian_: I use automatix and it seems to work ok, but alot of folks don't seem to like it07:02
unfo!easyubuntu07:02
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ (currently down!); for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.07:02
nothlitjon_, ubuntu doesn't come default with a firewall enabled, to check services theres system -> administration -> services for a "safety" sort of stupid users service management, or you can install the package bum (boot up manager)07:03
Poseidonok I will try it07:03
jon_I will have a look, thanks07:03
unfoixian_, easyubuntu is supported in the easyubuntu channel :)07:03
ixian_i was asking if anyone here has actually tried it.07:03
crimsunMicrosoftSpy: so there's no volume icon already?07:03
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sethkMicrosoftSpy, it has a habit of breaking things.  Considered more dangerous.  Nevertheless can be useful.07:03
Poseidonwhat about Visual studio2005  Unfo?07:03
Gevaudan82jon_: if you want a firewall install firestarter or guarddog if your needs are basic...for advanced configuration with a gui use webmin07:04
unfoPoseidon, doesnt work on Linux.07:04
iloveubunutanyone good at troubleshooting sound?07:04
unfoPoseidon, linux has Anjuta and Emacs.07:04
rawrnessunfo:  Don't have a windows install cd07:04
unfoiloveubunut, just ask :)07:04
unforawrness, get Vista Beta 2.07:04
RancidLMubuntu looks bad at 1680x1050  is there a way to fix the fonts for this resolution i would really like to utilize the full  resolution of this monitor?07:04
MicrosoftSpycrimsun: Nope Under system->Pref-> sound I cant seem to get it to set sound capture back to auto....dunno what I did to it07:04
LathiatRancidLM: whats "bad" about it?07:04
iloveubunutjust got 6.10 and I have no sound =(07:04
rawrnessunfo: Don't think my computer could run bista07:04
threat2Poseidon: there is mono, but it is only .NET 2003, not 200507:04
LathiatRancidLM: you can turn the DPI up if thast what you mean07:04
unforawrness, :(07:04
LathiatRancidLM: system->preferneces->fonts ---> advanced07:04
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rawrnessSTupid shitty emachine07:05
jon_I don't want a firewall, I want to be able to allow incoming connections from the internet, the program is set up correctly as it runs fine on my other box (not ubunutu) but it won't on ubuntu, any ideas?07:05
chuckyp!ircd07:05
ubotuircd: IRC Server daemon - dummy package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 36 kB07:05
Gevaudan82jon_: do you have a hardware router/firewall?07:05
unforawrness, are you at a college or university with MSDNAA?07:05
jon_nope, and I'm runnning unbuntu 5.0407:05
MicrosoftSpyjon_ you can still run a firewall and allow incoming connections you just gotta configure it correctly07:05
jon_it's just my Modem from comp to wall thing07:05
chuckypjon_, do you have a broadband router or something?07:05
RancidLMLathiat: u "L" pritty much disapear.. and the text is very distorted07:05
unfoPoseidon, Anjuta is easy and powerful, and Emacs is difficult but ultra-powerful.07:05
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jon_no it's a cable modem07:05
Poseidonthreat2   what's the meaning of mono07:05
LathiatRancidLM: hrm.. weird.07:05
LathiatRancidLM: i dont have that problem onh my 1680x1050 screen07:06
towsonu2003MicrosoftSpy, okay I think I found something here... first: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, try if it works, if not try this: launch synaptic, search for gnome-applets and gnome-applets-data - I found this here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25259.html07:06
chuckypjon_, just make sure in your cable modem config that the ports are forwarded for ircd is all.07:06
LathiatRancidLM: or is that the incorrect resolutions for your display?07:06
unfojon_: does 5.04 still get security updates?07:06
threat2Poseidon: it is the name of an IDE for C#07:06
RancidLMLathiat: u using vga cords? or dvi?07:06
chuckypunfo, not anymore.07:06
Lathiatunfo: no, 5.04 is hoary which is EOL07:06
MicrosoftSpythanks tow....will try07:06
LathiatRancidLM: thats in a laptop actually07:06
unfoLathiat, ah07:06
jon_unfo, I don't know lol =P07:06
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unfoJon_, it is risky to run end-of-lifed old versions.07:06
LathiatRancidLM: probably dvi equivalent07:06
RancidLMLathiat: hmm i wounder if its because im going analog back to digital.. hmm07:07
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jon_chuckyp, how can I do that? there's no router or anything so I'm unsure. Is it a ubuntu program?07:07
threat2Poseidon: for firewall there is a program named firestarter, it is a frontend for iptables, it is good07:07
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towsonu2003MicrosoftSpy, okay I just saw I posted missing info heheh after searching for the packages, reinstall them :)07:07
jon_how do I forward the ports?07:07
rawrnessunfo: nope just at home07:07
MicrosoftSpytow: yep will read da URL :)07:07
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Poseidonreally?firestarter07:08
Jruaguys07:08
unforawrness, how do you feel about spending $30-$50 online for Win98 or Windows NT 4?07:08
rawrnessSo I take it i am fucked and have to continue dual booting?07:08
nmzis there no 'more advanced' audio control? master equilizer, etc.07:08
unforawrness, ah, you need to set up physical disk access.07:08
towsonu2003here's the google search i did: http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=GNOME+Mixer+Applet+OAFIID&spell=107:08
rawrness?07:08
jon_any ideas chuckyp or unfo?07:08
unforawrness, go to irc.efnet.org channel #vmware and ask how to use /dev/hda1 as your VMWare HDD07:08
towsonu2003MicrosoftSpy, here's the google search i did: http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=GNOME+Mixer+Applet+OAFIID&spell=1 , in case you need to check out more links there07:08
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unfojon_, maybe ask in channel ##networking07:09
puppyhi , i want to add the ubunyu Cd to apt/sources - how do i do that?07:09
chuckypjon_, you would have to look at the directions for your cable modem.  Try navigating your browser to 192.168.0.1 for the config or possibly 192.168.1.1  depends on the router.  But it could blocking certain ports.07:09
Jruaguys I am facing a problem in efgy, when i use gdesklets it utilizes the whole memory.. is this a bug07:09
Jruaedy*07:09
rawrnesskk07:09
Jruaguys I am facing a problem in efgy, when i use gdesklets it utilizes the whole memory..07:09
Jrua          is this a bug07:09
chuckyp!easycources > puppy07:09
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jon_ok thankyou chuckyp, I'll have a look07:09
crimsunMicrosoftSpy: first, does sound actually work in any app?07:09
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unfoPoseidon, try anjuta. it's quite good. :)07:10
unfodo you have a computer you can install Ubuntu on?07:10
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unfoJon_, or maybe 192.168.2.107:11
iterwhy is automatix "07:11
iterseriously disliked by the devs"07:11
threat2Poseidon: yes07:11
puppychuckyp, what do u mean?07:11
threat2Poseidon: apt-get install firestarter to install it07:11
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omacjon: what kind of router have you got?  after connecting your router to the modem, did you do /etc/init.d/networking restart?07:12
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PoseidonNo I dont know what should i do07:12
jon_omac, it auto recognised it and I don't have router, it's a cable modem07:12
nmzautomatix is what?07:12
chuckyp!easysources | puppy07:12
ubotupuppy: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:12
itersee I don't really buy that07:12
Poseidonuse  vm?07:12
towsonu2003iter, it causes problems with dist-upgrades, and also it had issues with licensing and security, but I dont think they "seriously" dislike it. at worst, they don't do it :)07:12
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towsonu2003!automatix07:13
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.07:13
unfojon_, ask in channel ##networking for help with finding out if your cable modem has a router built in. they can help you use a traceroute tool to find out.07:13
unfoPoseidon, no, use dual-boot.07:13
towsonu2003iter, it seems this channel doesn't like it though :)))07:13
unfoPoseidon, do you have a laptop?07:13
iter00:58 < DarkMageZ> oranged, automatrix is not supported, and seriously disliked by the ubuntu devs. try a clean install of the system07:13
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omacjon: what is the manufacturer and model name and number of your cable modem?07:14
iterright but for what reason07:14
puppyubotu, thanks07:14
ubotuThanks for the help!07:14
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DarkMageZiter, cause it has a reputation for breaking systems07:14
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DarkMageZiter, a well deserved rep. things might have changed in the newer versions tho07:14
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RancidLMthe ubuntu startup screen doesn't work with my lcd mointor after grub loads it just goes blank until gdm loads.. the only way currently to see if things are loading correctly is to remove "splash" from loading my kernel  how do i enable splash on a lcd monitor?07:14
iterI would argue that the population using automatix is prone to breakage07:14
PoseidonI am just afraid it is not steady  My laptop is a bad07:15
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chuckypiter, it is a hacked way of installing stuff that is very to easy to install without even using it.   If you check out the wiki or the desktop guide you will be able to get everything going without using it.07:15
unfoPoseidon, what does "a bad" mean?07:15
iterchuckyp: how is it hacked07:15
fatlipi lost the link to flash 9 beta07:15
fatlip:(07:15
iterit installs everything the debian way07:15
chuckypiter, hacked up way of doing it.07:15
khaije1a philosophical question, for a personal use server does the extra testing of dapper outweigh the progress made with edgy?07:15
Jruaanyone understood my problem07:15
omacTonight, I managed to try xdvdshrink on Edgy Eft, after installing dvdread and doing a ./install.sh for the css.  DVD was ripped, resized and burned in 32minutes :)07:15
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iterchuckyp: a shell script is 'hacked' ?07:15
chuckypiter, it downloads source for some packages and others it apt-gets from non ubuntu repositories07:15
unfofatlip, why do you want flash9?07:15
omacEft rocks!07:15
Poseidonit dose't work well07:16
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fatlipso i can watch flash videos? lol07:16
Jruaguys I am facing a problem in edgy, when i use gdesklets it utilizes the whole memory.. is this a bug ?07:16
iterchuckyp: as opposed to using apt-get ?07:16
fatlipit was working well on my old install07:16
itergoing to be hitting same repos w/that07:16
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iteryeah beryl is so pretty07:16
rawrnessberyl is very pretty07:16
iterI love mousewheel near edge of screen07:16
khaije1MicrosoftSpy: definitely!07:16
omacDVDrip on Edgy Eft has no issues after installing libdvdread and then doing the ./install.sh for the css also :)07:16
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towsonu2003khaije1, I would use Dapper for a server... well, I would use Debian stable for a server, but thats just me :)07:16
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chuckypiter, NON UBUNTU REPOS is the key portion.  Anytime you are installing third party software from different sources you may have problems upgrading or dist-upgrading in the future.  Its just not recomended if you want a better explaination please just search the forums.  Its been discussed to death.07:17
Poseidonbut it is fine with me to do something with windows system07:17
khaije1towsonu2003: is yr nick refering to TU in maryland?07:17
iterchuckyp: please show me an ubuntu repo for flas07:17
unfo!dualboot07:17
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)07:17
iteror java07:17
iteror nvidia07:17
towsonu2003khaije1, yes07:17
iterI mean cmon07:17
PoseidonI know07:17
khaije1towsonu2003: i went to school there, are you still a student?07:17
towsonu2003khaije1, I just couldn't come up with seomthing better :)07:17
Jruaguys I am facing a problem in edgy, when i use gdesklets it utilizes the whole memory.. is this a bug ?07:17
chuckypiter, look in your sources list07:17
unfoubotu, dualboot is <reply>Dual boot instructions for AMD64-based PCs:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)07:18
towsonu2003khaije1, nope, graduated. but got stuck with the nick :p07:18
pc22how do i make a pedal work. im a transcriber http://www.nch.com.au/software/linux.html07:18
iterchuckyp: why, never installed automatix07:18
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unfopc22, what software are you using?07:18
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iterchuckyp: but I have added repos to get all the normal stuff working07:18
Poseidonwhy not use VM07:18
unfoPoseidon, VMs are slow.07:18
khaije1towsonu2003: do you ever attend the baltolug meetings, i wonder if we've met07:18
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Jruaguys I am facing a problem in edgy, when i use gdesklets it utilizes the whole memory.. is this a bug ?07:18
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iterchuckyp: I still don't see the point, and saying that "it's been discussed to death" doesn't really help07:18
towsonu2003khaije1, no, I'm pretty much a "loner" :p07:18
rawrnessautoers are evil07:19
unfotowsonu2003, it's good to get out sometimes :)07:19
chuckypiter, I'm not going to get in a discussion of why it is bad.  I've told you.07:19
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towsonu2003unfo, lol, but it's too bright outside...07:19
iteryou've said some patently false stuff at least07:19
chuckypiter, its not supported here.  Thats pretty much the final answer07:19
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chuckypiter, No i have not.07:19
khaije1towsonu2003: ya, unfo is right, I'll save yr nick so i can catch you later, i'm gonna get some rest07:19
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omaciter what are you trying to do?  install the flash plugin for firefox?07:20
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chuckypomac, he's trolling07:20
iterno man I got everything working fine thank07:20
iterand I'm not trolling07:20
azurealsigh...reg sound was kinda messed up by installing and uninstalling =/07:20
Poseidonhow much space  dose this ubuntu need07:20
towsonu2003khaije1, good night -I usually hang in the forums though :)07:20
azurealwrong chan.07:20
iterI just saw someone say devs hate automatix07:20
pc22unfo, express scribe07:20
firebird619I just started Ubuntu and it just gets through GRUB and then the screen goes black and stays that way, I don't get to the login screen. This has occured the past couple days off and on. What can I do to fix this issue?07:20
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jonkelleactually, if iter wants to use automatix.... and 'possibly' (I say possibly, because I have repeatedly used it since early Breezy with no problem) why can't you just say we don't support automatix here?  and let it be at that?07:20
chuckypPoseidon, depends on what you want to install?  Will this be a desktop setup?07:20
iterand I wanted to know if that were actually the case07:20
unfopc22, where did you download it from?07:20
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towsonu2003polttaja-, 10GB and you'll be happy, 5GB at least I guess07:20
khaije1oic, gdnight07:20
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chuckypiter, it is the case07:21
itergot a reference?07:21
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jonkelleyou can get all the support you need for automatix on their forums anyhow.07:21
iterI'd like to know why07:21
pc22http://www.nch.com.au/software/linux.html07:21
chuckyp!automatix | iter07:21
ubotuiter: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.07:21
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jerb_automatix is like making homemade cardboard gaskets for your porsche07:21
unfoPoseidon, 3 GB minimum. But I think the installer will steal half your hard disk automatically unless you tell it not to.07:21
towsonu2003Poseidon, yea, be careful with the installer :)07:21
Poseidongod07:22
towsonu2003lol07:22
unfohow much disk space does the installer take automatically? is it 50%?07:22
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Poseidontoo much07:22
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unfoPoseidon, you can reduce it easily.07:22
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Poseidonok i got it07:23
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jonkelleso, anyhow iter just check out the automatix forums if you have any problems.  if you're smart enough to edit a /etc/apt/sources.list you can probably not worry too much about what it does.  Most of the 'non-free' stuff, it actually just does a wget on and for the most part, the sources.list is only slightly modified, with it marked clearly what automatix added.07:23
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unforawrness, if you get no answer try http://www.vmware.com/community/index.jsp07:23
pc22unfo, actually i cant make it to work07:23
unfopc22, but what website did you download it from?07:23
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towsonu2003jonkelle, I don't like the linking of not-wanting-to-edit-sources.lst -> stupidity07:24
pc22http://www.nch.com.au/software/linux.html07:24
pc22unfo, http://www.nch.com.au/software/linux.html07:24
pc22unfo, i did everything in the instruction07:24
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towsonu2003jonkelle, we all have been newbies at one point, and I for one would enjoy automatic installation of various stuff...07:24
unfoomac, thank you for the tip but why did you PM? :-)07:25
jonkelleread what I typed, it doesn't say that.07:25
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jonkelleI said if you're smart enough to do it, then automatix won't kill your day.07:25
unfopc22, how much does automatic scribe cost?07:25
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towsonu2003jonkelle, "if you're smart enough to edit a /etc/apt/sources.list you can probably not worry too much about what it does" but this is going to become a flamewar, I shut up :)07:25
jonkellewhich I mean.  if you're smart enough.07:25
FarnabyAhah! It took some mucking about but the ubuntu machine has graphics agaiN!07:25
jonkellenot if you're a newbie.07:25
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pc22unfo, the one im using is free07:26
iterhehe I'm not afraid of editing a makefile or two07:26
iterjust wondering the rationale behind the anti-automatix comment07:26
eyequeuealso, automatix is highly UN-recommended in here, it breaks too many systems07:26
jonkelleif you're a newbie, you're probably just figuring out how to open the gui's right?07:26
eyequeue!automatix07:26
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.07:26
iterlooks like it was arnieboy who had personal beef w/the automatix guy07:26
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rawrnessXD07:26
unfoomac, > "I just don't want to litter the chat with stuff others might not be interested in." >> don't worry, it is on-topic.07:26
rawrnessauto scripts are evil07:26
iterand since he used to be a ubuntu dev...07:27
iterthat must be where it came from07:27
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jonkellearnieboy authored the original automatix07:27
rawrnessnoobs like i was should learn how to set things up07:27
unfoomac, > "the default ubuntu install takes about 7-8 GB's." >> so it takes 5-6 GB for free ext3 space?07:27
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jonkellenow it's more of a community effort.07:27
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Farnabyand I think I discovered where the screensaver issue is. Anybody know where the option to lower colors is?07:27
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Poseidonwhy dose it need so much space?07:28
towsonu2003Farnaby, I believe in /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:28
unfoPoseidon, it does not. you can tell it to take only 2 or 3 GB.07:28
iterah I see arnieboy had the beef with the ubuntu dev07:28
Poseidonoh07:28
tzadikimso...i appear to be too stupid to figure out how to fix a udev mounting root file systems bug in dapper, but it's apparently been addressed in the edgy release...should i try edgy, or is it gonna be too much for a complete newbie? do i wait for feisty?07:28
jonkelleand half the reason ubuntu is gaining steam is that it is newb friendly.  not all pc users want/need to know how it works under the sheets.07:29
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towsonu2003tzadikim, what's the bug # ?07:29
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unfotzadikim, go with edgy. and no, you are not stupid. IMO anyone who manages to install and use Ubuntu and get on IRC is above-average intelligence :)07:29
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tzadikimhaha, well, i haven't installed or used ubuntu yet07:30
towsonu2003!ping and !ping07:30
tzadikimi'm still in windows land07:30
Juanhey07:30
unfotzadikim, get edgy.07:30
Farnabytowsonu2003 according to that one its correct07:30
iterunfo: stick around07:30
Juanquick  question07:30
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Poseidonso what about the EMS memery07:30
tzadikimhang on towsonu, i can't find the bug #07:30
iterunfo: that opinion will probably change ;)07:30
unfoPoseidon, what?07:30
unfoiter, oh :)07:30
Poseidonmemery?07:31
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unfoiter, fine, "most". :)07:31
unfoPoseidon, it requires 256 MB RAM.07:31
Juani have my dsl connection configured on pppoeconf, but it renews ip every 12 hours07:31
appenWhat do you think is better. Easy Ubuntu, or Automatix07:31
Poseidonoh I got it07:31
eyequeueappen, neither, both are deprecated i believe07:31
Juanwill it reconnect auto?07:31
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towsonu2003Poseidon, if the computer is too old, (one with 10GB hdd & -128MB RAM would be old) try xubuntu07:32
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tzadikimtowsonu: i think it's bug 636707:32
Poseidonnot too much  less than XP07:32
chuckypiter, please go to #automatix or even #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss it.07:32
unfoiter, if you go off-topic enough the ops may kick you.07:32
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iterthank you mr. thought police07:32
towsonu2003Poseidon, if it can run XP, it should be able to run ubuntu07:33
Shadowlineiter, try discussing it in #ubuntuforums07:33
chuckypPoseidon, you could even install it on much lower system specs with different wms or none at all.07:33
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Poseidonit can run Vista07:33
chuckypiter, thought police?   You are speaking offtopic07:33
unfoPoseidon, I have Ubuntu on my 3-year-old slow laptop.07:33
Juani have my dsl connection configured on pppoeconf, but it renews ip every 12 hours, will it reconnect automatically?07:33
theDtTvBHello there, I am using Ubuntu Server, and I installed KDE.07:33
theDtTvBAfter that, KDE keeps prompting me to login, what should I do?07:34
unfoiter, there is no such thing as free speech on IRC. Congress guarantees you that right but Ubuntu does not. :)07:34
chuckyptheDtTvB, you log in as your user.07:34
Poseidonoh cool07:34
theDtTvBYes.07:34
Farnabywell when i go to gnome-screensaver-preferences through command line I get the following: LibGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support cisual 0x4b | Gnome-screensaver-Message: Found best visual for GL: 0x2507:34
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chuckypFarnaby, what type of video card?07:34
unfotheDtTvB, why did you install Server?07:34
nothlittheDtTvB, you log in, or disable kdm depending on what you want to do07:34
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theDtTvBI want to try it. I had Desktop already.07:35
Farnabychuckyp: old.... matrox 400g. but its free and the ubuntu machine isn't currently my main machine07:35
firebird619What would cause Ubuntu to go throug GRUB, but then the screen goes blank and stays that way, never getting to the login screen?07:35
chuckypFarnaby, well what is the response of glxinfo | grep render07:35
chuckypfirebird619, lots of things07:35
unfotheDtTvB, that's fair. so log in. :)07:36
pc22i need to use internet explorer and i got it using ie4linux but i cant use activex07:36
jonkelleI don't believe activex will work under wine07:36
theDtTvBThe login screen shows up, I typed my username and password the screen turns black, and the login window pops up again and again.07:36
chuckypfirebird619, try hitting ctrl+alt+f1 and see if you get a text console.07:36
towsonu2003tzadikim, the fix won't go to Dapper, that's for sure... if you think you're gonna bump into that, I'd go with edgy. edgy is, well, edgy :) you can also install dapper and do what this comment says: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/6367/comments/8307:36
unfopc22, how did you plug in the pedal? USB?07:36
Farnabyjust that the 3d driver claims not to support 0x4b and then hangs chuckyp07:36
theDtTvBLooks like I missed to install something...07:36
pc22its still now working unfo07:37
Poseidonunfo ,which is your first Linux sys when you knew Linux,ubuntu?redhad?XGL or else07:37
chuckypFarnaby, if you type in "glxinfo | grep render"   in a terminal?07:37
unfopc22, USB?07:37
firebird619chuckyp: No, I don't. This has been an ongoing problem the past couple days, it will do this and then all of a sudden work again.07:37
Juani have my dsl connection configured on pppoeconf, but it renews ip every 12 hours. will it reconnect automatically?07:37
Farnabychuckyp yes07:37
unfoPoseidon, it was Mandrake. I hated it.07:37
Farnabythats what Ityped and thats what i got07:37
Poseidonwhy07:37
tzadikimdrat, this is gonna be the third live cd download in two days07:37
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chuckypfirebird619, hrm... I would suspect some faulty hardware if its working some times then not others.07:37
unfoPoseidon, no apt-get07:37
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pc22usb is working but not the pedal07:37
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towsonu2003tzadikim, Dapper will be supported for 3 years (desktop) while edgy will get 1,5 years (I believe). Also, edgy is designed to be more buggy then dapper (that's how their plans started)07:37
unfoPoseidon, if you want to find out what apt-get is, type: /msg ubotu apt-get07:38
Poseidonapt-get?whar is that07:38
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chuckypFarnaby, hm....  I wouldn't even know where to begin with that card for drivers.07:38
Poseidonok07:38
Xzyx987Xhas anyone had any luck getting eclipse to work in 64 bit builds of kubuntu07:38
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Farnabychuckyp: me neither sadly... damn old junk07:38
firebird619chuckyp: Which piece of hardware, the PC is about 4 years old and the HDD about 1-1 1/2 years old. Would this problem be graphics or what?07:38
chuckypFarnaby, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=168781407:38
iternah there's definitely a matrox driver07:38
Xzyx987XI installed it from the standard package, but when I try and run it it generates a huge error log07:38
unfopc22, type: lsusb07:38
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tzadikimtowsonu, so what does that mean? if i'm totally new is edgy gonna be too difficult?07:39
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chuckypfirebird619, well its hard to say when it does boot you could try to check out the logs and see what failed if anything on the last boot.  Do you have another os on the machine?07:39
Xzyx987Xcould someone just try and install it and see if they have the same problem?07:39
unfopc22, that's spelled ell ess you ess bee :)07:39
towsonu2003tzadikim, no, it will probably be as easy as dapper. but you may encounter bugs here and there07:39
Farnabychucky: thanks man, google had just pulled that up as well07:39
pc22i pmed u with result07:39
unfopc22 Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:000007:39
unfopc22 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:000007:39
unfopc22 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:000007:39
unfopc22 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000007:39
unfopc22 Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:000007:39
theDtTvBI installed kde-base, kdelibs, kdesktop, kdm, and kubuntu-default-settings. Did I missed anuthing?07:40
iterhttp://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/corpo/support/drivers/driverInfo.php?id=14307:40
Poseidonwhat is your sys now unfo? dual-boot?07:40
Madpilotunfo, pastebin!07:40
tzadikimis it just as easy to set up a dual boot?07:40
unfopc22, hmm. i wonder what that means07:40
unfoMadpilot, sorry07:40
unfoPoseidon, yes07:40
chuckypfirebird619, most of your log files will be in /var/log   in there you will find files such as dmesg etc..  that you can look at and see what went wrong last time. Xorg.0.old   etc....07:40
towsonu2003tzadikim, let me say it this way: if the system is of *utmost* importance to you, I'd go with dapper.07:40
firebird619chuckyp: yes, Windows XP, it is on a separate HDD that isn't connected when Linux is.07:40
Poseidonwhich and which one07:40
chuckypfirebird619, does xp boot every time?07:40
firebird619chuckyp: Yes.07:40
chuckypfirebird619, okay well then I would start leaning towards software.  Or possibly memory if anything.07:41
iterhaha07:41
chuckypfirebird619, What about the live cd.07:41
unfopc22, I would ask in #hardware07:41
tzadikimtowsonu, yeah, mostly i'm just trying to learn a bit about linux, but i intend to hold on to my windows partition for now, so i guess utmost importance wouldn't be quite true :-)07:41
pc22thanks a million07:41
towsonu2003tzadikim, then I'd go with edgy :)07:41
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iterahh got it07:42
iterof course it was included07:42
iterdriver is mga07:42
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unfopc22, tell them your full lsusb output. it is probably safe to paste 5 lines in #hardware.07:42
iterFarnaby: make sure you're using mga in xorg.conf07:42
Poseidoni want to setup a Linux XGL   does it work07:42
tzadikimok, thank you very much, i'll give it a shot07:42
Farnabyiter, I am07:42
unfoPoseidon, maybe07:42
chuckyp!xgl | Poseidon07:42
ubotuPoseidon: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:42
eyequeue!xgl > Poseidon07:42
chuckypfirebird619, Also are you re detecting the different hd with your bios when you change?07:43
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Xzyx987Xhere is the full log of the eclipse problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29683/plain/07:43
iterFarnaby: sorry, looks like a bug07:44
Xzyx987X#eclipse07:44
iterFarnaby: http://www.mail-archive.com/dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg28133.html07:44
chuckypFarnaby, are you using 6.1007:44
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ndowensgah, my screen won't quit moving/flickering or whatever u can see the screen kinda shake07:44
unfondowens, when did the problem start?07:44
Farnabychuckyp: yes, updated to get gnomepilot working07:44
iterfortunately it's cosmetic only07:45
Farnabyiter: so it seems, they released edgy with a few issues...07:45
chuckypFarnaby, did you check out the link i sent you earlier for a possible solution?07:45
iterwell that's a mesa issue07:45
omacappen:  neither.   Edgy Eft is the best version I have had the pleasure to use and install stuff for and saw no need to use other installers.  Besides I am betting more resources have been thrown at ubuntu to make it easy to boot and install free open-source stuff.   The only thing that could make the install faster is by doing something like mirrors but each mirror could be like a torrent seed for every file in the ubuntu multi-verse.  The downl07:45
omacoad bandwidth right now is adequate, but torrent-like mirrors could make the download-bandwidth better.07:45
unfopc22, did it work?07:45
firebird619chuckyp: It boots to Live just fine.07:45
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Farnabychuckyp: trying it now, about to restart07:45
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ndowensunfo: it's been like this for a while, it's worse if the refresh rate is high07:45
chuckypfirebird619, hrm.. are you re detecting the drive in the bios when you switch and unplug the other?07:45
tzadikimhey, one more question...if i have a 64bit processor do i want to go for the 64 bit edgy?07:46
unfondowens, does the problem happen only in ubuntu, or other OSes too?07:46
chuckypFarnaby, you should be able to just restart x.  ctrl+alt+backspace07:46
eyequeuetzadikim, no07:46
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unfotzadikim, I recommend the 32 bit. it's better tested.07:46
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ndowensall, i am in gentoo atm, but i ordered a ubuntu cd so i am just hanging here, and wondering why that is too07:46
pc22unfo, still asking07:46
chuckyptzadikim, you can try either or.07:46
firebird619chuckyp: BIOS detects it. I don't switch hardly at all though.  I prefer Linux over Windows.07:46
ndowensonly guesses are either monitor or vid card, not sure which07:46
dortoanyone knows if Crafty(chess engine) is available in any repository that can be used in Ubuntu?07:46
Farnabychuckyp: i am going for a fullrestart anyway since my last one was sorta messy between all the xorg modifications I was pulling to get it working correctly07:47
unfondowens, does it happen in DOS? Windows? in the BIOS setup screen?07:47
eyequeue!info crafty07:47
ubotuPackage crafty does not exist in any distro I know07:47
omactzadikim: yes, but do keep the 32 bit 386 kernel in your grub menu.  don't uninstall the 32-bit 386 vanilla kernel.07:47
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unfondowens, you can get old vid cards cheap on ebay or free at www.freecycle.org07:47
ndowensi think it does it after the screen being on a while and haven't noticed it doin it in the bios setup07:47
chuckypfirebird619, hrm...  I would run an fsck on the drive make sure that tests okay.  Also run a memtest make sure that works.  If all else fails possibly try reinstalling thats just wierd.  Its very difficult to trouble shoot intermitent problems.07:47
unfo!freecycle | ndowens07:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about freecycle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:47
iterdorto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3165907:47
Farnabyhowever, I will say that minus this graphics issue and minus the fact that quark has lost mp3 support/totem losing avi support, edgy is great07:47
tzadikimomac, theres nothing to uninstall, im doing a fresh linux install, hoping to dual boot with xp07:48
Farnabythe quark/totem issue seems to be just me though07:48
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tzadikimdo i want to test out the 32 first?07:48
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firebird619chuckyp: I just did clean install of Edgy 2 days ago07:48
chuckyptzadikim, what type of processor do you have?07:48
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unfoPoseidon, do you have a Chinese IME installed? does it work in Chatzilla?07:48
chuckypfirebird619, was it working fine from the start or did this problem always occur?07:48
tzadikimdualcore amd 64 x207:49
PoseidonIME what is it07:49
unfoPoseidon, can you type on your computer in chinese?07:49
tzadikimit sounds like everyone has a different opinion :-)07:49
dieselDoes ndiswrapper come in the stock Ubuntu kernel (specifically Edgy's kernel)?07:49
chuckyptzadikim, then you can get away with installing the amd64 package.  Or the 32bit it doesn't really matter the choice is yours.  Perhaps search the forums for some issues people have had.07:49
Poseidonof course07:49
Poseidon07:50
Poseidon07:50
tzadikimok, thank you07:50
totall_6_7lol07:50
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chuckyptzadikim, if i'm not mistakent though I believe you can now run 32bit apps on 64bit system with 6.1007:50
chuckyp!cn07:50
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk07:50
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mneptontzadikim: if you need Flash or Win32 AV codecs, use the 32 bit version of Ubuntu07:50
raghu206!ap07:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:51
totall_6_7comming from years of mirc i still do double takes when i see asian characters with kvirc07:51
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tzadikimoh yeah i think i'll want flash07:51
firebird619chuckyp: I had been having this problem after having Dapper installed and updating to Edgy, thats why I did the clean install to try and solve the problem, that didn't work. The problem still occured after the clean install.07:51
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chuckypfirebird619, hrm.. perhaps try installing dapper and see if the problem persists.  If it does then you know a its a problem with a package in edgy.07:52
Poseidonlol  there is no one there07:52
chuckypfirebird619, which may be the case from what you are saying.07:52
unfoPoseidon, in #ubuntu-tw there are ppl there.07:52
dooglusubuntu is based on debian.  you shouldn't need to do a clean install - you can apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade from one release to the next07:52
dortoiter, i too got a few google hits to ubuntuforums threads, but none of them are loading. is ubuntuforums.org down today?07:52
chuckypfirebird619, that should be if it doesn't07:52
chuckypdorto, they are up.07:52
iterdorto: works here, try google cash07:52
itererr cache07:52
BHSPitLappygoogle checkout07:53
dortook07:53
unfodorto, dunno. try the ubuntu mailing lists or google cache or http://web.archive.org instead.07:53
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chuckypfirebird619, what type of system do you have?07:53
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firebird619chuckyp: Yes, I could try that. Could it possibly be a driver issue, every time I start Ubuntu, when it does work, just past GRUB it shows a black screen with multiple colored dots and lines, sometimes thick white lines, multicolored lines, etc.07:53
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Farnabychuckyp, your fix worked and for that I am thankful07:53
chuckypFarnaby, np07:53
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firebird619chuckyp: I have an eMachines Desktop. 2 Ghz, Intel Built-in graphics, 256 MB Ram.07:53
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chuckypfirebird619, hrm... maybe search for your model ont he forums.  Other than that I would try dapper just to make sure its a driver issue with edgy.  Most likely going to be a problem with video drivers or the kernel.07:54
chuckypfirebird619, the other thing to try would be booting with out X and see how often the system fails that way.07:55
chuckypfirebird619, then you would know if tis a video or kernel issue.07:55
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firebird619chuckyp: Ok, I can try dapper again, all I really had installed extra was Beryl (which is amazing). How do I tell it to boot without X?07:56
unfoubotu, freecycle is a set of mailing lists where you can give away things (including old hardware) for free or get things for free. get more info at freecycle.org.07:56
unfoubotu, freecycle.org is a set of mailing lists where you can give away things (including old hardware) for free or get things for free. get more info at freecycle.org.07:56
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chuckypfirebird619, yeah I would do that before try dapper07:56
firebird619chuckyp: How do I tell it to not start X? I can't get to anything really except the GRUB menu.07:57
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chuckypfirebird619, okay type in runlevel to see which runlevel you are running now07:58
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firebird619chuckyp: Where do I type that in, at the GRUB menu?07:59
espenelconfidential07:59
chuckypfirebird619, terminal07:59
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towsonu2003?07:59
chuckypfirebird619, you can try appending init 2 to the end of the kernel line07:59
itersheesh wouldn't it be easier to boot to single user08:00
unfochuckyp, or: single08:00
iterlinux single at grub menu08:00
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firebird619chuckyp: All I can get to is the GRUB menu, how do I get to a terminal from there. Then I can append init 2 to the kernel line.08:00
chuckypfirebird619, yeah just append single to the end of the line08:00
chuckypunfo, ty08:00
unfochuckyp, np08:01
Farnabywell, xinelibs is still screwy, but thats an issue for manana, I gotta go get 5 hours of sleep so i can make it to work tomorrow08:01
chuckypfirebird619, do you have recovery mode as an option?08:01
Farnabythanks again chucky08:01
nothlitfirebird619, you can append it from the grub menu .. just hit e (for edit)08:01
chuckypFarnaby, np08:01
firebird619chuckyp: Yes, I have recovery mode as an option.08:01
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firebird619chuckyp: Should I go to that before appending single to the kernel line.08:01
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zircxman, I don't know what the hell is going on but sites just don't seem to be coming up or resolving in the manner that they should be..08:02
chuckypfirebird619, well you can boot to recovery mode  or hit e i believe to add stuff to the end of what ever line your are currently selecting.  Then just add single at the end of the line.   Recovery mode automatically boots to single user mode so X will not start.08:02
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unfofirebird619, just use recovery mode.08:02
chuckypfirebird619, if you append single to your nomral kernel line it will only be for that boot and upon restart you would have to do it again.08:02
zircxI've even gone to the extent of using opendns servers and still having problems with sites not resolving... I'm thinking that maybe it's my router now.. because I intially thought it was my ubuntu edgy08:02
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CuriousCatdoes anyone here use ipw3945 working on edgy?08:03
CuriousCati can't seem to get the daemon going08:03
chuckypfirebird619, if you just select recovery you could do it every time.08:03
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firebird619chuckyp: So should I boot to recovery mode from now on for a while and see how often it crashes?08:04
knapperGuys, I am having a terrible time trying to get NVIDIA drivers installed properly.08:04
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chuckypfirebird619, just select recovery mode.  Let it boot.  log in.  then sudo shutdown -r now   and do the same over again a few times.   And see if it hangs or crashes.08:04
zircxi click on a link which directs me to one site and a totally different site comes up, e.g i click on a forum link and i get www.imageshack.us coming up instead but it still fails to connect?08:04
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zircxhas anyone had a problem like this before..08:04
Kawaii-Pandathe forums are down today isn't it?08:04
chuckypfirebird619, yeah thats the idea.  Then we will know if its a problem with X or some sort of driver issue.08:04
varsendaggarknapper,  go to the ubuntulinux.com   web site,   then click on the wiki and search for nvidia08:04
firebird619chuckyp: I didn't have to log in, it automatically logged in as root.08:05
spanglesontoasterm does anyone know why fglrx doesn't seem to work on edgy properly ?08:05
chuckypzircx, DNS issues08:05
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unfospanglesontoast, it is working badly for you? please elaborate.08:05
chuckypfirebird619, okay just shutdown -r now08:05
unfo!smart questions08:05
chuckypfirebird619, and try again make sure you can do it a few times.08:05
zircxchuckyp, I thought as much.. but I've got my router using opendns.. wouldn't that help resolve the dns problem, or would it relate more to my isp dns ?08:05
unfoall: should I put the smart-questions link into ubotu?08:06
spanglesontoastwell it doesn't seem to enable 3d accell08:06
firebird619chuckyp: Ok, will do and see wat happens.08:06
firebird619*what08:06
knappervarsendagger, I am getting a version mismatch error. API mismatch.08:06
knapperI cannot install the nvidia drivers or nvidia-glx, neither work08:06
knapperwhen I change nv to nvidia08:06
spanglesontoastI'm just wondering if this is because I was using the k7 kernel now using the latest one provided with edgy08:06
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iterknapper: gotta have appropriate restricted-modules as well'08:07
knapperiter I do08:07
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iterso xserver dies?08:07
zircxknapper, are you using synaptic to install the nvidia drivers?08:07
knapperI tried synaptic and the nvidia installer08:08
spanglesontoastXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". ?08:08
chuckypzircx, you could ifconfig and see who's dns you are using08:08
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knapperI can install it fine, but when I try to use it, that is when it doesn't work08:08
firebird619chuckyp: restarted three times to recovery mode and so far so good. No problems.08:08
itersince when does ifconfig return dns08:08
knapperwhen I edit xorg.conf and change nv to nvidia08:08
knapperstartx08:08
chuckypzircx, i'm not really good at fixing dns issues08:08
knapperI get something about API mismatch08:08
chuckypzircx, perhaps someone else may know more.08:09
knapperkernel and the module are from different drivers08:09
yakumohow do i play .mkv format? im using mplayer08:09
chuckypfirebird619, What type of video card do you have?08:09
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zircxchuckyp, the eth0 is configured as a static that uses the router as a gateway08:09
towsonu2003knapper, I guess you installed the nvidia drivers from nvidia site?08:09
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firebird619chuckyp: Intel Built-in i810.08:09
chuckypzircx, yeah I can't remember how to show which dns servers you are using.08:09
zircxthe router is configured to use opendns servers.. somethings not right though.. weirdly  enough..08:10
knappertowsonu2003 at one point I have08:10
chuckypfirebird619, okay try booting to recovery mode and editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changing your video driver to vesa08:10
zircxoh hang on ..08:10
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iterzircx: you have the problem in firefox and not mozilla, right?08:10
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iterzircx: if so it's not a dns issue08:10
iterunless you got some crazy hosts files08:10
azurealhi, sudo modprobe intel8x0 just freezes08:10
zircxiter, I had the problem in firefox, I haven't used mozilla  but I did earlier on and it was doing the same..08:10
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zircxiter, is there a problem with firefox?08:11
iterzircx: no08:11
firebird619chuckyp: do I change the line that says Driver        "i810" to vesa?08:11
firebird619to read Driver     "vesa"08:11
towsonu2003knapper, you'll have to reinstall it08:11
towsonu2003knapper, I believe08:11
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zircxI actually did a fresh install because i had issues with xserver..(long story) also..08:11
zircxso it's a fresh install08:11
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iterzircx: first off lets get you using isp's dns08:11
zircxok, I'll change back08:12
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knappertowsonu2003 I have tried, it fails08:12
iterzircx: you have a router right08:12
knappertowsonu2003 It say it cannot compile a kernel or something to that effect08:12
iterzircx: does it get ip via dhcp ?08:12
towsonu2003knapper, maybe it cannot find the kernel headers?08:12
KenSentMeHow can i see the list of users currently in a channel in irssi?08:12
zircxno, I've changed it to static, but yes it can do dhcp08:12
iterKenSentMe: /who08:12
chuckypfirebird619, yes08:12
towsonu2003knapper, this command: sudo apt-get install build-essential08:13
iterzircx: that's fine, as long as you know the dns is correct for your isp08:13
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KenSentMeiter: thanks08:13
firebird619chuckyp: Ok, after that is edited do I try booting normally?08:13
towsonu2003knapper, that should install everything you need. then try reinstalling again08:13
iterzircx: setup dns server in router08:13
knapperbuild-essential is already the newest version08:13
iterzircx: then point /etc/resolv.conf to router ip08:13
knapper:/08:13
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chuckypfirebird619, well you can try startx08:13
chuckypfirebird619, see if it atleast loads x08:13
firebird619chuckyp: Ok08:13
towsonu2003knapper, kernel headers? what was that package's name?08:14
zircxwell the eth0 on this machine is setup as a static ip with the router as the gateway.. the router is setup to use the dns of the isp08:14
AdamKilican someone help? what package do i need to (re)install?08:14
AdamKilichecking for GTK+ - version >= 2.6.0... no08:14
AdamKili*** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...08:14
AdamKili*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the08:14
AdamKili*** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.08:14
AdamKiliconfigure: error: maybe you want the gtk-gnome-1-2 branch?08:14
Kawaii-Pandais anyone  unable to access ubuntuforums today too?08:14
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chuckyp!paste > AdamKili08:14
iterzircx: sounds good08:14
zircxiter, yes resolv.conf is pointing to router..08:14
chuckypKawaii-Panda, yes someone else was having issues but i'm not08:14
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unfoKawaii-Panda, use google cache instead maybe?08:14
firebird619chuckyp: Yes, it started X. I am at Ubuntu's Desktop now.08:14
chuckypfirebird619, okay restart and try a normal boot using the vesa driver.08:14
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zircxok brb have to reboot the router08:14
AdamKilichuchyp it wasn't that big08:15
knappertowsonu2003 I don't recall. How can I find it?08:15
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towsonu2003knapper, what's the output of uname -r for you?08:15
chuckypAdamKili, what are you trying to rebuild?08:15
firebird619chuckyp: Ok. Could this be the cause of my problem, a driver issue. I Hope. :-)08:15
knapper2.6.17-10-38608:15
chuckypfirebird619, possibly issues with the i810 driver08:15
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chuckypfirebird619, or somethign to do with compiz etc...08:16
towsonu2003knapper, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.17-1008:16
AdamKilignome-python-2.16.0 it's required for gDesklets08:16
firebird619chuckyp: I don't have an option to restart, only Logout, Lock Screen, and Switch User.08:16
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thee3how do i play a vcd?08:16
towsonu2003knapper, better yet: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-38608:16
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chuckypfirebird619, okay ctrl+alt+f108:16
knapperlinux-headers-2.6.17-10 is already the newest version08:16
chuckypfirebird619, or open a terminal and shutdown -r now08:16
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firebird619chuckyp: Did that, shows errors on that screen.08:17
knapperdone08:17
towsonu2003knapper, ok, what's the output of ls -l /usr/src/linux08:17
chuckypAdamKili, why don't you just install gdesklets from the repos?08:17
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knapperno such directory08:17
chuckypfirebird619, hrm.. well if you ctrl+alt+f1  do you get a text terminal?08:17
towsonu2003knapper, ok, just a second08:17
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axisysanyone here install ubuntu on sun coolthreads? T2000?08:18
w4zzWhat happends when i have installed edgy and i open firefox and no matter what address i type i come in 1.1.1.1 -> ergogroup? :S08:18
chuckypaxisys, perhaps search the forums.08:18
totall_6_7chuckyp: tell them how to get back (if they dont know) :P08:18
rufihelp: my USB drive is reported to be 90% full eventhough there is no file in it!!! (no hidden files). Seems that the filesystem is damaged. How do I repair it?08:18
chuckyptotall_6_7, ?08:18
AdamKilichuchyp: that's a good question. another is y wasn't it there when i searched for it earlier? a good answer might be i misspelled it. lol.08:18
firebird619chuckyp: Well, I guess it is the same error, only repeated on the screen, Error opening device /dev/wacom. Also, Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF/. It brings me to the text terminal, just nowhere to type anything.08:18
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thee3how do i play a vcd? I can play all the other video formats.08:19
ndowensunfo so what should i do08:19
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chuckyp!info-gdesklets | AdamKili08:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about info-gdesklets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:19
azureallol...comprehensive sound guide has killed my sound..08:19
totall_6_7chuckyp:  someone said that and i had no idea how to get back08:19
unfondowens, please ask the whole channel, not just me :)08:19
chuckypfirebird619, okay ctrl+z in the terminal  then bg then shutdown -r now08:19
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w4zzWhat happends when i have installed edgy and i open firefox and no matter what address i type i come in 1.1.1.1 -> ergogroup? :S08:19
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ndowensany one know what makes a screen kinda bounce a lil08:19
chuckyptotall_6_7, I have no idea what you are talking about.08:19
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totall_6_7nm :)08:20
firebird619chuckyp: Ok, did that, will wait and see what happens on normal boot.08:20
unfow4zz, if you ask and nobody answers, please make the question longer and more detailed and more gramatically clear before re-asking :)08:20
chuckyp!info - gdesklets08:20
towsonu2003knapper, hopefully, it will be: sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10 /usr/src/linux08:20
w4zzunfo okey08:20
unfondowens, try a new video card or a new monitor :)08:20
AdamKilichuchyp: thanks for having me look twice and not have to compile08:20
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towsonu2003knapper, warnings coming now:08:20
chuckypAdamKili, np08:20
firebird619chuckyp: If it is a driver issue with the i810 driver, what do I do for a driver, use Vesa, or is there another alternative i810 driver?08:20
towsonu2003knapper, wait for a second, someone may see if it's wrong. also, copy paste the command so you won't make typos08:20
towsonu2003knapper, then try reinstalling the nvidia drivers again08:21
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chuckypAdamKili, you can search ubotu by sending it a message info packagename it will tell you if it exists int he repos and where.08:21
firebird619chuckyp: It booted normally, I was able to login and everything.08:21
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thee3Anyone??08:21
phabforums are down :(08:21
chuckypfirebird619, okay how idd you install the i810 driver08:21
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AdamKilichuchyp: cool thanks08:22
chuckyp!info gdesklets | AdamKili08:22
ubotugdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 466 kB, installed size 2452 kB08:22
chuckypAdamKili, see08:22
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phab!compiz08:22
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:22
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sparrWhat major commercial game titles are coming out for linux in the 'near' future, other than ET:QW and Savage2?08:22
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AdrianoOk people, I need to do your worst to crash my Gaim. So get at it08:22
rufihelp: my USB drive is reported to be 90% full eventhough there is no file in it!!! (no hidden files). Seems that the filesystem is damaged. How do I repair it? (anyone?)08:22
chuckypAdamKili, another way to search the repos is to use synaptic or apt-cache search packagename08:22
AdamKiliyep08:22
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phabrufi, check if it has a .Trash folder08:23
w4zzI have newly installed Ubuntu Edgy 6.10. And when i open my firefox, it looks like i have noe net. i come to this ipaddress: 1.1.1.1 and it stands something about ergogroup. Like a login.08:23
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rufiphab: no .Trash08:23
firebird619chuckyp: I didn't install any specific driver. It is what installed with Edgy. I take back that it booted normally, soon after I logged in, it took me to a blank screen, and when I type it shows weird symbols.08:23
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Adrianorufi: in nautilus, enable "show hidden files"08:23
unfow4zz, what does it "stand about ergogroup"? we do not understand :)08:23
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sparroh, and UT200708:23
chuckypfirebird619, hrm...08:23
knappertowsonu2003 I will give it a try, thanks!08:23
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chuckypfirebird619, do you experience artifacts in windows?08:23
smoenuxcan anyone tell me where to find info on Port Forwarding on my Router??08:24
w4zznothing.. its topic: ergogroup and then its a login under the topic08:24
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rufiAdriano: nothing... ls -a gives nothing08:24
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firebird619chuckyp: No, not that I have ever noticed anyway, but like I said, I am do not boot to Windows very much at all.08:24
chuckypfirebird619, I would try windows and see if you are experiencing artifacts in your video.08:24
itersmoenux: portforward.com08:24
chuckypfirebird619, if that is the case that is a tell tale sign of bad video card memory.08:24
Adrianorufi, then, which filesystem is it formatted with? vfat?08:24
smoenuxiter, thanks08:24
nothlitDoes anyone know what the difference between free and available space in gnome system monitor tab filesystem is?08:24
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Gumbychuckyp: are you sure he is talking about visual artifacts and not a bad keyboard layout?  "shows weird symbols"08:25
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chuckypsmoenux, the website for your router.08:25
unfonothlit, try F1 key for help08:25
chuckypGumby, yes08:25
w4zzunfo: nothing.. its topic: ergogroup and then its a login under the topic08:25
pc22anyone using ies4linux now?08:25
firebird619chuckyp: And this is built-in Intel, so I would just have to disable it in BIOS and get a PCI video card, if that is the problem.08:25
chuckypGumby, ahh maybe not08:25
torthoHi, can anyone explain what this is: " hw_random: cannot enable RNG, aborting" thanks!08:25
knappertowsonu2003, still didn't work :(08:25
knapperany other ideas?08:25
chuckypfirebird619, hold on when you type you get wierd symbols?08:25
nothlitunfo, i looked in the yelp system08:26
unfonothlit, oh. :( dunno08:26
thee3Isn't it possible to play VCD in ubuntu?08:26
itertortho: RNG = random number generator08:26
Gumbyhehe, his video card cant render US English  :P08:26
unfothee3, it is possible08:26
iterfwiw, which aint' much08:26
chuckypfirebird619, but everything else looks okay?08:26
towsonu2003knapper, what's the output of the error message?08:26
firebird619chuckyp: yes, like /s and diamonds, etc.08:26
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knapperhang on08:26
unfothee3, what languages do you speak?08:26
torthoiter: so what is this error then... get it everytime i boot eft08:26
rufiAdriano: yes, vfat08:26
towsonu2003!paste > knapper08:26
unfow4zz, are you at home? maybe you're in a captive portal?08:26
chuckypfirebird619, okay reboot into recovery mode and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   we are going to select the proper keyboard layout.08:26
thee3unfo: eh? English..08:26
chuckypfirebird619, or youc an switch to text terminal and do it.08:27
thee3unfo and hindi08:27
w4zzunfo i'm at work.. and we are not ergo group...08:27
unfothee3, #ubuntu is not the best channel for VCD help: I would try the hindi channel.08:27
unfo!hi08:27
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!08:27
Adrianorufi: have you tried it on other computers, or at least on Windows?08:27
unfo!hindi08:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hindi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:27
pc22unfo, didnt work08:27
chuckypfirebird619, ctrl+alt+f1  then login sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:27
SizzlerWAHowdy.08:27
torthoiter: i can see after google'ing for a while that a lot of people have it, but havn't found any explain...08:27
unfopc22, sorry. try the Ubuntu Forums.08:27
knappertowsonu2003 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29685/08:27
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firebird619chuckyp: No, there isn't anything else to look ok, it is just a blank screen. I had rebooted and it did the same thing, shortly after login, only when I type now, nothing shows up. It switches to black right after it shows Beryl loading.08:27
itertortho: http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/hardware-RNG/index.html08:27
mygodI'm use hiweed08:27
pc22for now will try to make ie4linux work with activex08:28
nothlitunfo, its just theres a difference of 10 gigs between free space and available space and i think thats pretty significant08:28
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unfo!vcd | thee308:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
chuckypfirebird619, well beryl is possibly messing with us as well.  You may want to try uninstalling that so we can eliminate that.08:28
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unfothee3, try looking for VCD in Applications menu > Add/Remove08:28
torthoiter: thanks a lot!!08:28
rufiAdriano: well I could format/scandisk it on windows but it will have to wait until evening... Currently there's only linux here :). Any tips?08:28
thee3unfo: i can play all other formats.08:28
unfonothlit, i have no clue. ask again here or try channel #gnome :)08:28
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nothlitunfo, ahh kk ty08:29
unfow4zz, i dunno. maybe google "Ergo Group"?08:29
firebird619chuckyp: Ok, I can try uninstalling Beryl :-(. Should I still enter that command you gave me thought.08:29
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firebird619*though08:29
Adrianorufi: I meant, check if the problem still exists on other computers - operating systems08:29
w4zzokey.. i try a little more... thnx for the try unfo :)08:29
zircxurhm, i guess you can't override the server dns even if you're using opendns due to backward compatibility08:29
Adrianorufi: before reformatting, to rule out a bug08:30
chuckypfirebird619, well remove beryl first and see how the system acts.  IF its acting screwey come back here.08:30
iterzircx: how's that ?08:30
zircxbuggy beta nvidia drivers and beryl!08:30
firebird619chuckyp: Is that sudo apt-get uninstall beryl-manager?08:30
kleinlappieshello08:30
towsonu2003knapper, sorry, I won't be able to help with that one. I dunno what "initialization from incompatible pointer type" means while reinstalling the nvidia driver... For anyone who have an idea: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29685/08:30
zircxnot much better iter08:30
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zircxI believe it is a isp dns issue..08:30
kleinlappiescan anyone tell me if there is a good backup program for thunderbird.08:30
iterzircx: open a terminal and type 'host google.com'08:30
torthoany bluetooth / gnome experts here? my mobile fails straight away when trying to connect, pc does not see any devices, but devices does see pc..08:31
zircxeven using opendns they still have to resolve from one host back to the isp host..08:31
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ndowenstowsonu2003: i've seen that error when installing some programs08:31
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iterzircx: your isp's dns is probably working fine08:31
ndowensbut dunno what it means, it is some compile error than dns08:31
zircxgoogle.com has address 64.233.187.9908:31
zircxgoogle.com has address 64.233.167.9908:31
zircxgoogle.com has address 72.14.207.9908:31
zircx;; Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet.08:31
zircx;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached08:31
iterzircx: also do 'dig google.com'08:31
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chuckypfirebird619, well I would look at whatever directions you followed to install it and go in reverse order.  Or possibly ask in #ubuntu-xgl they will be able to help a lot more.08:32
Regurgitatori have 2 pcs each with ati video cards, one radeon and one older onboard model, when i go to install ubuntu up to the menu the loading screen where you see a bar go back and forth sort of like win xp i can see everything great, but then as soon as its done loading the screen is intirely unreadable, i see like 5 or 6 mouse pointers and its like it would be set to a wrong resolution, and i already have tried setting it to different 08:32
ndowenszircx: try ping yahoo.com if it says it can't resolv it then most likely it is a dns issue08:32
knappertowsonu2003, well thanks anyway. :)08:32
towsonu2003knapper, sorry...08:32
dieselSo I have a brand spanking new Edgy.  When I modprobe ndiswrapper: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/...ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid Argument.  ANy suggestions?08:32
firebird619chuckyp: Ok, and after that, do I continue with the vesa driver or switch back to i810 after uninstalling Beryl.08:32
zircxndowens, that works ok08:32
SizzlerWAI want to join an Ubuntu Dev team --- any suggestions?08:33
LainNaomianyone knows about Plan 9 from bell lab?08:33
chuckypfirebird619, try the vesa driver  that should work.  Then you could edit the file and try using the i810 driver and see how it acts.08:33
zircxfirebird619, what video card are you using?08:33
AdrianoSizzlerWA: you should search some project that interests you08:33
zircxoh i810 driver..08:33
mygodis there any tools for read *.chm08:33
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LainNaomixchm08:33
mygodchm08:33
dieselmygod: xchm08:33
zircxhaven't touched a machine that old in four years.. plus..08:33
Adrianoor some project that desperately asks for help08:33
mygodthank you08:33
firebird619zircx: Intel built-in i810.08:34
brocolii install ubuntu 6.10 and don't have a console. how i can install it?08:34
AdrianoLainNaomi: I do know a bit about Plan9, I installed it here08:34
Adrianowhat's the issue?08:34
dieselEdgy Eft has been a big disappointment08:34
LainNaomiI can't get my usb mouse working:p08:34
iterzircx: next thing to try is put your isp dns in /etc/resolv.conf in place of router dns08:34
firebird619zircx: Gee, thanks. : - ). The system is about 4 years old.08:34
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Adrianodiesel: http://theinside-out.blogspot.com/2006/10/en-its-called-edgy-for-reason.html08:34
torthodiesel: yupp..... what's new in it?... :-(08:35
zircxsorry man, I could help ya if you had nvidia card..08:35
AdrianoLainNaomi: and it surprises you?08:35
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dieseltortho: all the crap that doesn't work, is new08:35
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zircxI installed it beryl / emerald  / nvidia / kiba-dock the other day.08:35
torthodiesel:  yupp as i was about to write: except for more problems with hardware08:35
LainNaomino not really I really know little about it08:35
zircxok08:35
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zircxiter, , the primary dns or both or all?08:36
AdrianoLainNaomi: it's a research project, lots of good ideas, not the best implementation08:36
brocolihow i can use pppoeconf without console?08:36
dieselAnyone have success modprobe'ing ndiswrapper?08:36
firebird619zircx: thats fine, I know it is old. I have another system, Dell 3.2 Ghz with Nvidia FX5200, but need Windows on that for now for college work, etc. I've always had bad luck with Dual boot, thats why I use separate HDDs for everything.08:36
torthoanyone got bluetooth working in gnome? what did you set up to make it work?08:36
Adrianofor that, you could try Inferno, but It Is Not Ubuntu (TM)08:36
Regurgitatordoes anyone know how i could solve this as i would really like to try out ubuntu but these display limitations are preventing me08:36
iterzircx: for testing remove the secondary (comment it out)08:36
thee3unfo: still there?08:37
iterzircx: change primary dns to isp dns08:37
zircxk08:37
pradeepcan i execute commands on a remote machine through a shell script?08:37
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iterpradeep: yes, through ssh08:37
mseve!samba08:37
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:37
LainNaomiYeah I haven't figure out what's special about it and I'm reading the manual at present08:37
FirefisheHello..first time here.  Does ubuntu support xen?08:37
iteryes08:38
KenSentMe!xen | Firefishe08:38
ubotuFirefishe: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy08:38
zircxnameserver dns.server.ip.address ? yeah08:38
iterzircx: yes08:38
rufiAdriano: ok, I'll do it and if there is indeed a bug, i'll report it08:38
zircxok done08:38
pradeepiter, can i directly place the commands in the script?08:38
iterplease do 'dig google.com'08:38
firebird619How do I uninstall a package from a terminal, is it sudo apt-get uninstall packagename?08:38
zircxfirebird619, bummer, i don't use windows at all these days..08:38
Adrianorufi: good. remember to check if it hasn't been reported before08:38
KenSentMefirebird619: sudo apt-get remove package08:39
Firefisheone more q.  pbly the most important:  where can I get 1.  a current dvd release of Dapper and 2.  a supplemental cd/dvd of the edgy upgrade?08:39
firebird619zircx: believe me, I wouldn't either if I didn't have college work that required Windows.08:39
zircxI'm trying to get comfortable with ubuntu as a desktop08:39
firebird619KenSentMe: Thanks08:39
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torthofirebird619: isnt it remove?08:39
ndowenswhy is it a issue that u aren't suppose to apt debian pckages in ubuntu08:39
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iterpradeep: http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_network/x-087-2-appl.remote.html08:39
iterfirebird619: apt-get remove package08:39
firebird619iter: Thank You.08:39
brocolii dont have console in edgy08:40
pradeepter, thanks a ton ! :)08:40
zircxoh you can get Xen on Edgy?08:40
AdrianoFirefishe: that's a) 2 questions, b) I don't know c) neither d) why would you need one? there's been no updates yet08:40
iternp ssh rules08:40
zircxhas anyone used it successfully and how good is it?08:40
pradeep:)08:40
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KenSentMeFirefishe: check http://www.ubuntu.com/download. There should be a dvd download and an Edgy cd08:40
iterxen is cool but vmware is still the gold standard08:40
firebird619chuckyp: I uninstalled beryl now, am restarting and will see what happens.08:40
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KenSentMeFirefishe: there's no update cd for upgrading from dapper to edgy08:41
zircxerm, they were saying that xen out did vmware benchmark wise08:41
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KenSentMe!upgrade | Firefishe08:41
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ubotuFirefishe: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade08:41
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iterzircx: yeah but mgmt wise esx server is waaay better than xen08:41
iteratm08:41
dooglusnothlit: the difference between 'free' and 'available' in gnome-system-monitor is that 'free' is what's available to the superuser, and 'available' is what's available to regular users.08:41
zircxiter, i take it those changes happen immediately on resolv.conf08:42
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dooglusnothlit: some filesystems keep some percentage (10%?) of the disk reserved just for root to use08:42
iteryes08:42
zircxiter, yeah but you have to pay for that don't you.08:42
iterooooohhhh yeah08:42
iterlots of $08:42
vikI've just tried moving up to flash 9 beta, but about:plugins in firefox still says I have version 7 installed. I put libplashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins08:42
AdrianoKenSentMe: there's no dvd link either at canonical's servers or at the Uni Utah servers08:42
daywalkerg'day! I  installed dapper, had no internt - so I got edgy - still no internet....but a win pc works off that same adsl modem? What gives?08:42
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iterzircx: same issue?08:42
iterzircx: please issue 'dig google.com'08:43
zircxso far it's pretty good08:43
AdrianoI guess that means a "there ain't no dvd for Edgy out yet"08:43
fnfvik: Not everyone has root permission, it's more natural to put it under your .mozilla/plugins/08:43
KenSentMeAdriano: i believed there where torrents of the dvd release08:43
nothlitdooglus, how do i fix it? its an old gentoo partition08:43
zircxmuch better :)08:43
dooglusnothlit: fix what?08:43
KenSentMeAdriano: maybe there won't be any dvd's for edgy08:43
zircxgot a full print out that time..08:43
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Adrianomeh08:43
nothlitdooglus, how do i unreserve that space08:43
daywalkerg'day! I  installed dapper, had no internet - so I got edgy - still no internet....but a win pc works off that same adsl modem? What gives?08:43
AdrianoI did try a search08:43
zircxiter, thanks..08:43
vikfnf: that's where is was before, and should work from there for all users, no?08:43
fnfvik: And make sure the flash 7 plugin is uninstalled, this sometimes cause problem.08:43
zircxlets hope that holds up..08:44
iteryep glad you're working08:44
vikfnf: yeah did that08:44
dooglusnothlit: what filesystem is it?  (run "mount" to find out)08:44
nothlitext308:44
zircxnow I've got to add all my bling back on08:44
fnfvik: Yes, but if you're the only user in the system, it makes more sense to put it in your home folder.08:44
zircxedgy edgy edgy08:44
daywalkeralso i can ping web addresses fine08:44
vikfnf: not the only user08:44
koreskoJust got an old iMac and want to install xubuntu Edgy.  The machine boots the CD but the installer crashes.08:44
Ademanwhere does apt keep downloaded but not installed packages?08:44
Adrianois anyone else experiencing Epiphany crashing when you close it and Gmail is the last page on it? for me, Bug-buddy is always called08:44
iterwrote this humdinger with a dislocated bling finger08:45
Ademankoresko: try the alternate install?08:45
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nothlitdooglus, does ubuntu behave this way as well? even if root and home are on different partitions?08:45
daywalkerwhere can i look if my internet connection isint working in edgy?08:45
fnfvik: If you insist, try putting it in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/, this is not guaranteed to work though.08:45
iterAdeman: /var/cache/apt ?08:45
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koreskoAdeman: I'm downloading the alternate CD now, but it's got most of another hour to go.  Any idea if there's a way to start the textmode installer from the console with the regular CD?08:45
coz_daywalker, sustem administrator net work or08:45
Ademandaywalker: what do you mean not working?08:45
coz_ifconfig in the terminal08:45
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coz_daywalker, or ifconfig in the terminal or iwsonfig if it is wireless08:46
mygodwhere dir... change  deb source  from ubuntu08:46
daywalkeri cant browse, wont open a web page08:46
coz_daywalker, iwconfig08:46
fnfvik: The difference is that we never know what the binary flash 7 package did to our system without a monitor.08:46
coz_daywalker, are you on that machine now?08:46
Ademankoresko: if there was you would probably want to ctrl+alt+f1 into a virtual terminal, maybe there's a script somewhere, browse the install cd's file system maybe there is an installer08:46
daywalkerno im on another machine08:46
dooglusnothlit: ext3 reserves 5% of the partition for root's use.  apparently it's changable when you format the fs, but I don't know.  I use reiserfs personally, which doesn't reserve and space for root.08:47
dooglusnothlit: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21517708:47
firebird619I just uninstalled Beryl, yet when Ubuntu Starts and I log in, Beryl starts, it goes to a black screen that is running fschk and then brings me back to Ubuntu login screen. What can I do?08:47
iterstabbyfs08:47
zircxi take it wiki.ubuntu is down...08:47
coz_daywalker, ok did you ifconfig or iwconfig in the terminal to see if you are connected08:47
vikfnf: huh? the install script is quite simple.08:47
Regurgitatoris there something i can do to stabilize the screen with my ati card so that i can install ubuntu? i tried both 640X480 and 800X600 resolutions which are resolutions i already know worked on windows08:47
koreskoAdeman: Thanks.  I did ctrl-alt-f1 and have a console.  Killed X so I have a bit of ram free.  Just need to find the textmode installer, if there is one on the CD...08:47
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daywalkerno that machine is at another location Im home now reading up on it to fix tomorrow08:48
mygodwho can give me a source for install xchm08:48
KenSentMekoresko: i don think there is a text mode installer on the regular cd08:48
iterI like filesystems08:48
iterstuff like xfs is cool08:48
Ademankoresko: yeah i dunno if there's one08:48
coz_daywalker,i see08:48
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iterbut as far as putting data I care about on em ...08:48
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Ademanxfs doesnt like GRUB though :-(08:48
daywalkercoz, the same thing happened with dapper08:48
ndowensi am not having a problem08:49
fnfvik: Ahh, I forgot there's a downloadable package, of course. You may put it under /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ to see if it works, I'd recommend to work within your home though.08:49
daywalkerthats the reason i got edgy08:49
Madpilotzircx, seems like it's more than just the wiki; I can't get to www.ubuntu.com or planet.ubuntu.com either08:49
daywalkerif i connect another pc on it, winxp it works08:49
KenSentMemygod: xchm is in the repo's08:49
KenSentMe!info xchm08:49
ubotuxchm: Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.9-3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 944 kB08:49
coz_daywalker, mmm that is odd, what is your machine, specs... cpu, memory,, manufacutere, home built???08:49
koreskoBummer - hate to have to download all over again to get the text installer.  But it's probably easier than installing without one ;)08:49
dooglusnothlit: see "man mkfs.ext3" - specifically the -m flag.08:49
zircxMadpilot, erm bummer, well at least it wasn't my dns issue..08:49
ndowensAdeman: i am not having a problem with XFS+grub08:50
vikfnf: put it in home as well, but now about:plugins shows both 9 and 7 installed. I can't work out where version 7 is coming from. Is there a search path for firefox plugins somwhere/08:50
Ademanndowens: maybe they fixed it i dunno08:50
Madpilotzircx, not unless my roommate's flaky router has also flaked out again :|08:50
fnfvik: What did you install flash 7 with ?.08:50
brocolihow i can configure pppoe without console?08:50
daywalkerquite old, 256MB ram, pentium 3 733 i think, change network cards in it too just incase08:50
ndowensit had a problem with the older i forget what version where it didn't/couldn't understand it, but it has been fixed08:50
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nothlitdooglus, i followed that link you gave me and fixed it... thanks a lot! :D08:51
dooglusnothlit: see also "man tune2fs" - the -m flag again.  I don't know how compatible tune2fs is with ext3 filesystems though.  someone else here might know.08:51
vikfnf: flashplugin-nonfree package. But have uninstalled that now. AFAIK it just downloads the plugin, extracts it into the plugins directory08:51
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daywalkercoz, so u reckon ifconfig?im not on a wireless connection08:51
nothlitdooglus, yeah i used tune2fs and it worked08:51
dooglusnothlit: ok08:51
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koreskononthlit: tune2fs is the standard tool for manipulating ext3.  You just have to make sure you have a relatively modern version.08:52
coz_daywalker, well it should work but no way for me to know unless i ws there acutally.. I have several old machines i have installed edgy on on is an AMD k7 with 256 megs mem it works fine so off hand... I couldn't tell what theproblem is unless you were able to be at the machine whiles you are in here as well08:52
nothlitdooglus, the man page for tune2fs says its for both ext2 and ext308:52
poquedoraquWell, i need to quit tampering with linux without researching first08:52
koreskoI used tune2fs to turn on data journaling, for example.08:52
fnfvik: is 'ls -la /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox' shows that a symlink ?08:52
fnfvik: to /usr/lib/firefox ?08:52
FirefisheWhere can I get a list of the compiled kernel modules for 6.10 or Edgy?08:52
coz_daywalker, BUT there are many people musch moreknowledgeable that myself I amsure someone could help08:52
dooglusnothlit: your question took a lot of answering!  I had to download the source to gnome-system-monitor, and the source of one of the libs it uses to work out what the columns meant...  the documentation is crap, isn't it?08:52
thykohow do i install postscript printer drivers?08:53
vikfnf: yep08:53
nothlitdooglus, wow, thanks a lot a lot a lot then08:53
ndowenstrying to decide with programming language i should learn08:53
KenSentMeFirefishe: use apt-cache search <word> or http://packages.ubuntu.com to search packages08:53
daywalkercoz, tru, thanks anyhow.I'll be able to work from it in anotehr hour or so - ill see how i get on till - thanks08:53
dooglusnothlit: I was interested to find out what the columns meant for myself.  they are identical on my system, and I've wondered before why they were both shown.08:53
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nothlitdooglus, yes its frustrating the yelp documentation and the man documentation never define all the columns/settings/variables08:54
ndowens!programming08:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about programming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:54
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eilkerhi, i installed apache2 and php5, now which mysql packet must i install ?08:54
FirefisheKenSentMe: Is there a list of just the compiled kernel modules?08:54
coz_daywalker, well I hope you get it fixed08:54
poquedoraquI installed the package for an opengl device because i wanted to see if I could do better with my 3d graphics stuff if I did. The installer said to use some sort of command to activate it, and i pasted that into the terminal. It said 'X' needs to reboot. When i rebooted, it wouldnt let me back into linux at all! I get a blue screen with a square in the middle >.<08:54
elmargolFirefishe: egrep =y /boot/config*08:54
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fnfvik: Does '/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/' contain a copy of flash 7 ? I guess it doesn't though, either way, try removing the plugin in your home dir first then accessing a flash site to see if Fx works normally.08:54
poquedoraquhow can i save myself08:54
dooglusnothlit: I'm not running ubuntu at the moment, so maybe it would be different if I was, but I see documentation only for Name, Directory, Type, Total and Used.  No mention of 'Free' or 'Available'08:54
Admiral_Chicagondowens: C++ or Fortan imho08:54
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elmargoland egrep =m /boot/config*08:55
Admiral_Chicagobut that belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic08:55
yogeshitbhuhi08:55
nothlitdooglus, yes its the same for me, what distro are you running?08:55
KenSentMepoquedoraqu: what package did you install?08:55
dooglusnothlit: I'm running debian sid at the moment08:55
coz_yogeshitbhu, welcome08:55
dooglusnothlit: so I guess most things will be pretty similar to edgy anyway for the moment08:55
poquedoraquThere were two.... i cant remember, one had an extra tag to its name08:55
brocolihow i can get my adsl working on edgy??08:55
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poquedoraqubut i installed the one without it08:55
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koreskoGoing to bed.  Thanks guys.08:55
roycebarberI..need...to know... how do i install downloaded gnome themes. i know nothing of this process.08:55
ndowensAdmiral_Chicago: i know just wanted a idea from someone in here08:55
daywalkercoz. same.Strange how i can ping net addresses though - maybe its a ver6 problem?08:56
poquedoraquIt said 'for newer boards'... i hope mine's new :(08:56
daywalkerdoes dapper also use ipv6?08:56
vikfnf: it has a copy of flash 9. Will try removing it from there to see if firefox still thinks it has flash 708:56
KenSentMepoquedoraqu: where did you get it?08:56
coz_roycebarber, you can go to gnomelook.org08:56
Regurgitatorcan someone help me pretty please? lol the ubuntu faw said to check here for support08:56
poquedoraquIt was from the 'add/remove' list08:56
sith-lordsup?08:56
yogeshitbhui am a newbe to ubuntu .....  as we use your-freedom in windows for proxy is thr ny substitute for ubuntu08:56
yogeshitbhu??08:56
zircxaw man that zooms now iter08:56
Admiral_Chicagoroycebarber: i think the link is gnome-look.org08:56
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poquedoraquI can get into Linux terminal, but not into gnome. :(08:56
KenSentMepoquedoraqu: ah, than there shouldn't be any problems08:56
nothlitdooglus, its already behind though right? as soon as the upstream freeze hits in dev ubuntu starts lagging behind?08:57
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poquedoraquBut why wont it load up?08:57
fnfvik: go on, you may delete both of them (/usr/lib and ~/.mozilla), perhaps firefox went crazy after the installation.08:57
coz_roycebarber, then when you download the theme of choice you go to system/prferences/theme and hit the install theme button locate the downoaded file and click ok08:57
dooglusyogeshitbhu: what does 'your-freedom' do?08:57
sith-lordinvestigating08:57
KenSentMepoquedoraqu: can you find some errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?08:57
brocoli how i can get my adsl working on edgy??08:57
yogeshitbhuit speeds up the net access08:57
dooglusnothlit: that's right.  I get 30 or 40 updates per day on sid08:57
vikfnf: just got rid of the one in /usr/lib, and it no longer thinks it has flash 7.08:57
KenSentMebrocoli: what modem do you use?08:57
daywalkerbrocoli, mine also dosent :)08:57
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poquedoraquWell when i checked the error log it gave me it said "NVIDIA: no matching device section for instance (BUS ID PCI:1:0:008:58
dooglusnothlit: although in some areas edgy is ahead; sid is still using evolution 2.6.3 for example08:58
roycebarberDoes anyone know if the preview install of Flash9 is stable, because CNET video's seem to require it. Not a big deal, im just slightly curious.08:58
daywalkeri use dlink08:58
fnfvik: That's sort of the problem, if you have flash 7 installed via aptitude and put flash 9 plugin in your home, /sometimes/ firefox insists on running the 7 version, that's weird but a minor issue.08:58
KenSentMe!justask | Regurgitator08:58
ubotuRegurgitator: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:58
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poquedoraquOtherwise i dont know, im not extremely familiar with this terminal08:58
nothlitdooglus, i heard when no bugs are reported for two weeks packages from unstable move to testing?08:58
Regurgitatorlol yes but i did before, i shall re-ask08:58
dooglusroycebarber: I find flash 9 locks up after 3 to 5 minutes of playing videos at youtube.com08:58
Regurgitatordoes anyone know how i could solve this as i would really like to try out ubuntu but these display limitations are preventing me08:58
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nothlitdooglus, is that because ubuntu has such close ties with gnome?08:59
Regurgitatoroops wrong text string sorry08:59
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vikfnf: now I got rid of it from ~/.mozilla, and put it back in /usr/lib, and firefox tells me I'm running version 7 again. Wierd08:59
KenSentMepoquedoraqu: you could try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:59
Regurgitatoris there something i can do to stabilize the screen with my ati card so that i can install ubuntu? i tried both 640X480 and 800X600 resolutions which are resolutions i already know worked on windows08:59
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dooglusnothlit: I don't know about debian testing or ubuntu's ties with gnome, sorry :)08:59
roycebarberDooglus thank you very much for letting me know flash9 isnt ready. You saved me a lot of troubble. :D08:59
chuckypvik, if you make a link in /usr/share/firefox/plugins  it will be there for all users.  You  porobably have to remove the 7 first08:59
brocolidaywalker, before i have hoary and my adsl work fine, now i cant configure because i dont have console08:59
yogeshitbhunet is very shit in our college so it needs to use some other sources for tunnelling and speeding up the net08:59
chuckyproycebarber, no problems here with 908:59
coz_Regurgitator, I don;'t know guy, someone here who does will get to your question,08:59
KenSentMeRegurgitator: what do you mean with stabilize?09:00
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dooglusroycebarber: it might be a problem with my setup.  I'm using 'aoss firefox' to run firefox with OSS emulation (or something).  that might be causing the problems.09:00
vikchuckyp: I _did_ remove version 7. But firefox insists I have version 7 installed09:00
fnfvik: It's likely to be some orphan configuration stays put after flash 7 removal, another good idea to mess with your own home directory rather than root's btw. ;)09:00
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dooglusroycebarber: it's pretty quick and easy to switch in the v9 plugin temporarily to test it09:00
poquedoraquSo i type ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ' ?09:00
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KenSentMepoquedoraqu: yes09:00
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nothlitdooglus, ahh kk ty for your help09:01
roycebarberI couldnt get flash9 to install anyway. The firefox directory wont let me paste any files, it says i dont have permission.09:01
chuckypvik, how did you remove it?09:01
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poquedoraquAnd what will this do? LOL i sound so stupid09:01
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vikchuckyp: apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree09:01
KenSentMepoquedoraqu: reconfigure your xserver09:01
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chuckypvik, uninstall flash-plugin  then just dl the flash 9 tar.gz extract and put it in /usr/share/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ folder09:01
poquedoraquRight, will i have to do anything?09:01
firebird619chuckyp, I have uninstalled Beryl. I then ran the command to reconfigure X and just tried the i810 driver, it does the same as before, sticks at blank screen, switched it to vesa, and it works as far as getting to login screen.09:01
chuckypvik, and it will be there for all users.09:01
NoisRevBushello, i have a strange bug and i vaguely recall reading about it somewhere but the forums don't seem to be working for me09:01
NoisRevBuswhen i have azureus running, i have no sound09:02
KenSentMepoquedoraqu: yes, choose the nv driver and then use all the default options09:02
Regurgitator(KenSentMe): i mean its like its set to a wrong resolution or something i see like 5 or 6 mouse pointers and such09:02
chuckypfirebird619, okay so definately a problem with the i810 driver then?09:02
vikchuckyp: I've also combed through my hard disk for any other instances of libflashplugin.so, which there are none of. But firefox still insists its version 709:02
dooglusroycebarber: I put the plugin here: ls -l ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so09:02
NoisRevBusdoes anyone know anything about this?09:02
KenSentMeRegurgitator: is this in the installer or have you installed ubuntu already?09:02
dooglusroycebarber: you don't need root privs to copy it there hopefully09:02
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Regurgitatorin the installer, i wish to install it09:02
brocolidaywalker, did you try pppoeconf on console?09:02
vikchuckyp: though interstingly it seems to actually run as flash 909:02
bdragonmsl!xgl09:03
poquedoraquThank you so much :) if that doesnt work, nay way to force gnome up anyway?09:03
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems09:03
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firebird619chuckyp, Yes, evidently, with vesa though, when I get to the login screen I login, it logs in then goes to screen that looks like it's running fschk, and then straight back to login screen.09:03
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roycebarberIs there a way to tell Ubuntu to stop restricting my permissions. i09:03
fnfchuckup: That doesn't really work if flash 9 doesn't play nicely with your computer, in which case, you'll need root permission all the time to fix the problem, and what if other users don't want any kind of annoying flash ads ?09:03
KenSentMeRegurgitator: you could try donwloading the alternate cd, it uses a text-based installer09:03
chuckypvik, I'm sorry my link is in /usr/lib/firefox/plguins09:03
daywalkerbrocoli, no have you?09:03
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KenSentMe!alternate | Regurgitator09:04
ubotuRegurgitator: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.09:04
^Ocean^is there a way too tell whats useing a kernel module ?09:04
Regurgitator(KenSentMe): worth a shot but are there any other alternatives?09:04
vikchuckyp: they're the same; mozilla-firefox is a symlink to firefox09:04
^Ocean^im trying to rmmod something but it says its in use... so how to i tell whats useing it ?09:04
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KenSentMeRegurgitator: i wouldn't know09:04
daywalkerbrocoli, im not near my linux pc right now09:04
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chuckypvik, okay well I know it works.   SO make sure flash-plugin and anything related to flash is uninstalled.  Try dpkg -l | grep flash09:04
KenSentMeroycebarber: what are you trying to do?09:04
dooglusroycebarber: if you run "sudo nautilus" you'll be able to copy and paste anything wherever you like, but be careful - those permissions are set up to stop you messing things up09:05
chuckypvik, then download the flash 9 beta and just put it in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/09:05
roycebarberKenSentMe, im trying to install Flash9, but i dont have permission to do so. I'm not familiar with the Terminal at all.09:05
chuckypvik, then restart firefox go to about:plugins  and you will see it is flash909:05
KenSentMeroycebarber: how are you trying to install flash9?09:05
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KenSentMe!flash9 | roycebarber09:05
uboturoycebarber: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html09:05
vikchuckyp: done all that; firefox still thinks it's version 7. Hence the questions09:05
dooglusroycebarber: probably I should say "gksu nautilus" to appease the "don't-use-sudo-for-x11-apps" nazis09:05
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ndlovuany recommendations on a tool to spider a website for offline viewing?09:06
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KenSentMendlovu: wget09:06
brocolidaywalker, in previous versions of ubuntu work but my problem is that now i havent console, if you have it maybe work09:06
ndlovuKenSentMe, wow, wget seems pretty versatile09:06
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firebird619What is an alternative to use to the i810 driver that comes with Edgy, and something other than vesa?09:08
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Regurgitatorwhats the text i need to put in advanced boot options to enable expert mode (edgy)09:08
chuckypvik, well there is a pluginsreg.dat or something like that that references the version09:09
KenSentMeRegurgitator: in the alternate cd you mean. I don believe the live-cd has an expert mode09:09
Regurgitatoroh i wouldnt know, i saw something like it in help saying to enable expert mode but with no explanations09:10
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chuckypvik, .mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat  you could try changing the version in there.  but that shouldn't really effect it.  I would try renaming tha tfile and restarting firefox seeing what it says about the version.   It will recreate the file.09:10
domsterIs there a nice easy to install vnc server package. All the packages I've checked out need further configuration (xinetd and the like)09:10
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domsterand ubuntuguide is digg'd out, so I can't check there09:11
KenSentMedomster: vnc is already in ubuntu09:11
KenSentMedomster: go to System - Preferences - Remote Desktop09:12
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vikchuckyp: nup; still thinks version 7 is in there; and it didn't re-create the file09:12
domsterKenSentMe, yep, true. Where does it log to, because I'm having auth issues09:12
KenSentMedomster: logs are all in /var/log, so you could check there09:12
domsterKenSentMe, I did.09:12
vikgiving up now09:12
nothlitdooglus, i found out how packages move into testing http://www.debian.org/devel/testing09:13
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kzmI have a VIA-based mainboard - I know it can monitor its temperatures, since it can display them in the BIOS, but how can I read temperatures from Linux?09:14
firebird619I just restarted my PC and it said Failed to start X. VESA: No  matching modes and Screens found but none have a usable configuration. Fatal Server Error: no screens found.09:15
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Madpilotkzm, the site seems down right now, but check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto later when it's available09:19
spanglesontoastgrr can't get this damn 3d accel working with fglrx09:19
Lathiatspanglesontoast: what kind of card?09:19
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spanglesontoastradeon 960009:19
spanglesontoastfrom what I've googled I'm guessing it's about xgl09:19
spanglesontoastbut then again most of you guys are once step ahead of me09:20
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Madpilotspanglesontoast, from what I've read, XGL & ATI don't always play nice together. I've never had issues w/ basic fglrx & my 9600XT, though09:20
spanglesontoastbut isn't xgl the 3d accel09:20
Madpilotno. XGL is the wobbly desktop thingie.09:21
spanglesontoastoh09:21
spanglesontoastso why don't I have 3d accel ?09:21
roycebarberRunning "sudo nautilus" is exactly what I needed to get the permission to install Flash9. It seems to work well!! :D09:21
Madpilotfglrx is 3d accel09:21
spanglesontoastcould it be because I've installed xgl ?09:21
Regurgitatora friend of mine also had a similar problem than the one i have with my video cards and told me he had to get it to stop trying to use the monitor drivers and made it use Xorg, if anyone knows how i could do this from the edgy cd please help me out09:21
Qualc1spanglesontoast: you get errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?09:21
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xukunanyone having start up problems with vmware workstation after upgrading to Ubuntu edgy?09:22
dsewnr_hello09:22
dsewnr_: )09:22
spanglesontoast(EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/$09:22
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spanglesontoastonly one I can see09:23
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spanglesontoastI can pastebin if you'd like09:23
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Qualc1spanglesontoast: ok09:24
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Link9618Which respository on the sources.list is firestarter in?09:25
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tamacrackerHey guys... I'm havin a hard time findin my trash can lol09:25
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Adriano!ubotu firestarter09:25
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).09:25
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Habbiehttp://xkcd.com/c178.html09:25
Gustap0Hi, how do I share an internet connection via a windows machine? Do i just assign an address like 192.168.0.x in the /etc/network files?09:26
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spanglesontoasthttp://pastebin.ca/23227609:26
AdrianoLink9618: universe/admin09:26
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milamberlo there09:27
AdrianoLink9618: try apt-cache search show --full firestarter09:27
tamacrackercan some one tell me where the trash can is located?09:27
tamacrackernevermind.09:27
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Adrianothey make it way too easy09:28
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Adrianoanswering their own questions before we have a chance...09:28
Adrianonot fair, man, not fair09:28
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Gustap0Ok, if you want to answer a question, then answer mine (please :P).09:28
Regurgitatoror mine even lol09:29
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FeldegastGustap0 is the windows pc the client or the server?09:29
daywalkerbrocoli, any improvement?09:29
Gustap0I'm trying to get the linux box connected to the internet via a windows machine. Usually, with dial-up, i'd need to setup the resolv.conf file and then some.09:29
Gustap0Feldegast- the server. or gateway09:29
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Gustap0and its got an adsl connection- picks up the ip dynamically.09:30
Link9618Thank you09:30
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FeldegastGustap0 then u set up ICS on the windows pc, then on the linux pc u set the gateway to 192.168.0.1 and u set the dns on the linux pc to the ISP's DNS09:30
milambersomeone nows why k3b suddenly stoped working, it will try to start with burning, buth doesnt do anything, it worked before09:31
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Gustap0uh huh. and it'll work right outta the box if i hook 'em up both using an ethernet cable right? no routers/switches involved. just mano-a-mano ethernet cards doing their business.09:31
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FeldegastGustap0 the adsl device, is it a router?09:31
Gustap0no, a usb-modem.09:32
FeldegastGustap0 it will but ICS is flaky09:32
Mike2k6hello, i have a problem with frostwire, i downloaded it, but it wont connect09:32
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kzmMadpilot, thanks.09:33
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Feldegastwhen you set up ICS on the server pc it will set bridging and other things09:33
milambernobuddy? ive tried it also with differant burn-programs, like eg nero, and xcdroast buth all have the same problem, they will start buth do nothing with the empty disk, and hangs afther a while09:34
Gustap0Feldegast- i'd have chosen to connect the modem to the linux box. only problem is the adsl-driver. which is provided by that eagle-usb modem driver mod. I don't know how to re-route (or is it called bridging?) the internet connection to the ethernet card on the linux box.09:34
xukunwhich packages to I need to install the development tools?09:34
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Gustap0xukun: perhaps build-essentials?09:34
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FeldegastGustap0 that's why i don't use USB09:35
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gourdinanyone knows why I got this output http://pastebin.co.uk/4941 when doing a dist-upgrade in edgy eft ?09:36
AdrianoGustap0: yes, most people strongly recommend to use ethernet adsl modem/routers if possible09:36
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crimsungourdin: are you using any non-Canonical repositories?09:36
kleinlappiesis there a good thunderbird backup program or command?09:36
gourdincrimsun: ?09:37
gourdinhmmm09:37
Feldegastgourdin try running it again?09:37
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Adrianokleinlappies: copying the .thunderbird or .mozilla-thunderbird dir somewhere else?09:37
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gourdincrimsun: I'm coming from dapper wich used a mirror to install aiglx09:37
AWOSDevMy floppy drive doesn't work, it didn't get created for some reason (as in, even with sudo, /dev/fd0 doesn't exist).09:37
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Gustap0Adriano: never doubted that. Just giving one whack at the device the ISP provided me with. thanks all.09:38
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Adriano.mozilla-thunderbird in Edgy09:38
gourdinnow i'm only using ubuntu mirror for edgy09:38
AWOSDevAdriano, .mozilla-thunderbird in Dapper, too.09:38
AWOSDevI had to fiddle with it last night.09:38
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AdrianoGustap0: I haven't really been following this chan, just trying to make gaim crash, sorry09:38
roycebarberDemocracy Player is so awesome! I didn't know it even ran in linux. This is incredible. Gleeeee!!! I love watching Leo Laporte, and now i can.. hehehe...09:38
AWOSDevdd: opening `/dev/fd0': No such file or directory09:39
AWOSDevstat: cannot stat `/dev/fd0': No such file or directory09:39
AWOSDev:-(09:39
AWOSDev^^ That's with sudo on it too09:39
Gustap0whatis democracy player? :P i smell al-gore.09:39
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crimsungourdin: ok, is 'ubuntu-desktop' installde?09:39
gourdincrimsun: perhaps a --reinstall of some package ?09:39
crimsuninstalled, even09:39
AdrianoAWOSDev: are you sure your floppy is still there in sftab?09:39
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Adrianoafter the Great Renaming to UUID, I mean09:39
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nomad111can some1 tell me why i don t get water effects with beryl, i have an intel 945gm card09:40
AWOSDevAdriano, Well, I have Dapper for one thing.  and I'm not trying to mount it.09:40
gourdincrimsun: kubuntu desktop was installed before dist-upgrading to edgy09:40
AWOSDevI want to dd from it!09:40
xx2troubleanybosy know about localisation? i wanna thai desktop but thai-system is broken09:40
brynki still can't print on my epson aculaser c1100 in edgy09:40
brynkFIX IT09:40
brynk:)09:40
gourdinnow It seems to be deleted09:40
Qualc1spanglesontoast: if you disable AIGLX, with ---Option "AIGLX" "false"--- in /etc/X11/xorg.conf does 3D accel works ?09:40
AdrianoAWOSDev: I can't help you much, since I tore out the floppy unit from my 'puter long ago, and it didn't work to begin with09:40
kleinlappiesAdriano, so could i do a cron job to copy the .mozilla-thunderbird dir to another place like everyday at 11:0009:40
nomad111brynk, wats the printer problem09:40
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Adrianokleinlappies: yes, rsync should help you there09:41
AWOSDevokay well goodnight09:41
spanglesontoasterm well I think I was paranoid09:41
brynkit just sits there doing nothing, job stopped, giving a foomatic-rip error09:41
crimsungourdin: I would remove any external packages (that didn't originate from archive.ubuntu.com), reinstall kubuntu-desktop, then update && dist-upgrade again09:41
spanglesontoastit's just the transgaming thing said no 3d acce09:41
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gourdincrimsun: ok09:41
gourdinI'll try09:41
Adrianokleinlappies: try the official site for better strategies, it's almost surely a FAQ or at least in the manual09:41
gary_hello all, I'm wondering if anyone can provide me with direction (search terms for ubuntu forums would even be great) for an issue where I can see a shared xp folder, view the contents, browse subfolders, and even open .txt and image files, but mp3 files will not play (they play if I copy them to a local folder).  I'm using ubuntu 6.10 currently09:41
spanglesontoastwhat difference will that make Qualcl09:42
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kleinlappiesAdriano, K will look at that thanks.09:42
gary_if I open them in xmms, they show up in the playlist, but pressing 'play' simply doesn't seem to do anything09:42
frying_fishgary_: you don't have the gnome-vfs attributes for your players09:42
Feldegastgourdin i found that the cdromupgrade on the install cd worked around those09:42
frying_fishas they can't play directly over samba09:42
gourdinFeldegast: ho09:43
brynknomad111: it just sits there doing nothing, job stopped, giving a foomatic-rip error (also see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/68183)09:43
Qualc1it should disable aiglx09:43
gary_frying_fish: that's it? :) sorry to waste your time then..09:43
AdrianoI'd like to know why local mp3 or ogg files will not "preview" (as in "play") anymore if I hover over them, even with audio preview enabled for files of those sizes09:43
frying_fishyou will either need to mount the folder (to make it think its a local file) or find a package that will add the "play over samba" functionality for your player.09:43
gourdinhmmmm09:43
nomad111brynk, strange09:43
gourdin--reinstall some packages seems to work09:43
frying_fishAdriano: apt-get install mpg32109:43
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Adrianothanks09:43
Feldegastapt-get distupgrade when i did it didn't upgrade everything, the cdromupgrade on the cd did (at least) python09:43
Adrianowill try09:43
styluswhere could i find these? checking for X... no09:43
stylusconfigure: error: X development libraries not found09:43
frying_fishstylus: what you trying to compile?09:44
nomad111brynk, strange sorry i thought i could help09:44
gourdinFeldegast: ok, thx for th tips09:44
stylusgtk+09:44
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gourdinFeldegast: I'm trying --reinstall some package =)09:44
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Feldegast:)09:44
milamberhowto set cdrecord suid root ?09:44
frying_fishstylus: why? why not just use the one that comes with ubuntu. its the latest stable version09:44
frying_fishmilamber: ask google09:44
spanglesontoastbut I'd love to get beryl working09:44
stylusfrying_fish: i see09:45
Adrianofrying_fish: ok, that was really stupid, but worked. Why didn't it tell me anything before?09:45
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Feldegastberyl+xgl looks nice, heavy on the cpu tho09:45
frying_fishbecause it just doesn't tell you09:45
AdrianoI mean, why let me enable something that won't work?09:45
AdrianoI'm filing a bug, it's just too stupid09:45
frying_fishFeldegast: see if yours can do beryl just by using xorg7.1, if its nvidia, then with the beta drivers it should.09:45
roycebarberI'm randomly curious. Anyone know if Google is going to.. 1.) release their own linux distro. 2.) finance development of ubuntu.09:46
Adrianoor browsing for one...09:46
frying_fishAdriano: go file a bug, but again its a package that won't be included by default (mp3 licensing)09:46
Adrianoroycebarber: 1) they said no. 2) doubt it09:46
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Adrianofrying_fish: at least for ogg files, it should work09:46
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Feldegastfrying_fish i tried installing the beta drivers yesterday and it killed X completly, had to downgrade them09:46
Adrianoor not let me do it in the first place09:46
frying_fishwell ok then, just use the xgl for now09:46
tur1hi just a quick question is ubuntu website down?09:46
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frying_fishas xorg7.1 doesn't eat the cpu but if it crashes then don't use it.09:47
frying_fishtur1: nope.09:47
tur1mm09:47
crimsuntur1: routing issues upstream.09:47
tur1i could not access it09:47
gorndogsame here, tur109:47
crimsunyou may or may not experience said routing issues.09:47
tur1ok, let me check09:48
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tur1thanks09:48
Feldegastfrying_fish i have latest xorg, just not the beta nvidia drivers09:48
crimsun(it's known)09:48
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frying_fishFeldegast: yes, but for nvidia it will only do it using just xorg 7.1 with the latest beta drivers, as the earlier ones don't support the extensions09:48
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gorndogtur1, ubuntuforums.org also.09:48
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Feldegastk09:48
Adrianofrying_fish: it doesn't even work for ogg files, it's reedeeculous09:49
frying_fishbecause mpg321 is a program that isn't installed by default09:49
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frying_fishand they haven't written something like ogg321 (so if you want it, go do it yourself...)09:49
Adrianosure, but I installed it right now, it works with mp3 giles09:49
Adriano*files09:49
Adrianoand ogg123 used to exist, and isn't in the edgy repos09:50
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frying_fishI know you installed it, but you were arguing its stupid that it doesn't do it by default, but mpg321 isn't installed by default because of licensing and certain laws in certain countries.09:51
AdrianoI'm arguing that for free .ogg files it should work and it doesn't09:51
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RMorris84how can i install guifications for gaim 2.0 beta 3?09:52
Adrianoand I'm arguing that if it's at all unallowed in certain countries, and requires a package installation, nautilus shouldn't let me just enable the thing09:52
sverekhello, when running eclipse in edgy i get the same error as this guy (in french) anybody know a fix? http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=7185409:52
svereki have tried with gcj and sun java and same error09:53
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frying_fishsure it could, because then it is up to you to install it09:53
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frying_fishso any issues with laws are at your discretion.09:53
Adrianofor .ogg files?09:53
hintswenIs there a program that i can use o watch TV?(I have a TV tuner card)09:53
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frying_fishhintswen: mythtv.09:53
Feldegasthintswen myth tv?09:53
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Regurgitatorif anyone knows how i can make the ubuntu installer load with the Xorg instead of the default video drivers let me know09:54
sparrhintswen: xawtv (maybe?  ive heard of it, never used it)09:54
sparrRegurgitator: xorg has nothing to do with video drivers09:54
hintswendo i need the right drivers for my TV card to use myth tv?09:54
frying_fishRegurgitator: rephrase your question to make some sense.09:54
frying_fishhintswen: most probably.09:54
sparrhintswen: drivers are good.  but you dont HAVE to have them.  generics, even generic v4l drivers for dumb capture, will work09:54
frying_fishsparr: lies.09:54
gorndogcrimsun: is there any site that explains routing issue or gives status?  I'm assuming many affected ..., as I cannot even get to it from two different ISPs, nor from any proxies that I tried (e.g., hidemyass.com)09:54
hintswendam, I checked and there's only windows 2k/XP drivers for it09:54
frying_fishabout xorg not having anything to do video drivers.09:55
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sparrhintswen: the drivers listed by the company are rarely the same as the drivers youll find in linux09:55
sparrfrying_fish: of course.09:55
Feldegasthintswen what tv card is it?09:55
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hintswenwell I think it's actually my graphics card, WinFast PX6600 GT09:55
stylusconfigure: error: Library requirements (  libxml-2.0 >= 2.4.10   atk >= 1.0.0   gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0   glib-2.0 >= 2.4.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.09:56
Regurgitatori dont even know what im saying myself lol, all i know is im new to ubuntu and my friend uses another nix on which he had the same problem as i do with my video card, he said he had to make it stop trying to use the monitor drivers and made it use Xorg09:56
crimsungorndog: I don't know of one off the top of my head09:56
Feldegasthintswen that doesn't have a tv tuner09:56
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stylusfrying_fish: my dependancies are higher than what it needs09:56
hintswensays it does here09:56
styluswhy can't it use them?09:56
hintswenhttp://www.leadtek.com.tw/eng/3d_graphic/overview.asp?lineid=1&pronameid=14709:56
sparrstylus: dependencies are not always "this version or higher", some require a specific version09:56
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hintswensays it has HDTV support09:56
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stylussparr: so i need to install those exact versions?09:57
Feldegasthintswen it has HDTV OUT09:57
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ndlovuI'm trying to convert single page pdf files to 2-page-per-sheet pdfs, but it loses the first page for some reason. Any ideas why it's not working?09:57
ndlovupdf2ps kyoto2002.pdf - | mpage -2 -bA4 | ps2pdf - kyoto2002-2.pdf09:57
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sparrstylus: maybe.  i dont know.  im speaking generically09:57
hintswenright, well i'm on windows right now lol09:57
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Feldegasthintswen it doesn't have a Tuner, it might have video in.....09:58
hintswenI'll try figure out what my tv tuner card is then09:58
stylussparr: that doesn't really help me :(09:58
ndlovuthat's single page-per-sheet pdfs...09:58
hintswenI'm watching TV on my computer right now09:58
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Feldegasthintswen what software are you using?09:58
RollDiceHey all, anyone here have experience with compiz/beryl under ubuntu edgy eft? My GDM keeps restarting when I enable GD display or load an XGL session09:58
hintswenWinFast DTV09:58
frying_fishstylus: do you have -dev versions of each of those?09:59
Feldegasthintswen in that software, go into settings and tell me what divice it is using09:59
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frying_fishstylus: these are >= so they can be greater than, but make sure you have the -dev version of the packages.09:59
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Regurgitator(frying_fish): did it make more sense that time?10:00
hintswenWinFast DTV 1000T BDA DVB-T Tuner/Demon (Thomson DTT7579)10:00
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Feldegasthintswen same as my card :)10:00
frying_fishRegurgitator: not really, what is your graphics card, (we might figure it out from that)10:00
stylusok, i'm finding them now frying_fish10:00
hintswenyay i'm not the only person with this card lol10:00
Regurgitatori have an ati radeon10:01
Feldegastyour card is "WinFast DTV 1000T"10:01
frying_fishRegurgitator: which model.10:01
frying_fishthere are a lot....10:01
ndlovuor is there a better way to convert pdfs using ghostscript rather than a combination of pdf2ps, mpage and ps2pdf?10:01
Feldegasthintswen, next isue is getting it working under linux.....now i havn't tried mine yet....10:01
brynkso.. i'm downloading fedora and thinking about installing it10:02
Regurgitator(frying_fish): radeon 700010:02
donfilipoanyone can tell how to enable XGL in Edgy i have heart it should be easy10:02
Feldegastbrynk i know a lot of ppl who have fedora, have got fed up with it and are moving to ubuntu10:03
hintswenFeldegast, would it work running under a virtual machine?10:03
kzmI'm trying out Thunderbird, but when trying to reply to an email, the crappy editor just gives me a bunch of red frames with funny symbols on them.  Apparently, one is just supposed to return each entire mail along with one's response.  Let me guess: it is still impossible to use a real editor to compose mails?10:03
frying_fishRegurgitator: ok then, right do : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:03
Feldegasthintswen no, it needs a driver, it is HDTV so i don't know how well it will work10:03
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frying_fishand then when it suggests a driver use the "radeon" or "ati" option (probably radeon is best)10:03
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Regurgitator(frying_fish): input that in the advanced boot options?10:04
frying_fishRegurgitator: no10:04
hintswenFeldegast, I just checked and there's only WinXP drivers :(10:04
Regurgitatorubuntu is not yet installed on my system if i hadnt mentioned that10:04
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frying_fishno you didn't mention that10:04
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frying_fishat which point the cd you put in will most likely detect which one you want anyway10:04
frying_fishso just what it suggests.10:04
Feldegasthintswen the winfast website won't have linux drivers, you'd need to look elsewhere10:05
brynkFeldegast: yeah well, i'm kinda fed up with ubuntu, i've been a haapy user since it first got out but i've put a lot of time in getting my printer to work in edgy and there's not much hope of it getting fixed. i've asked questions on forums and filed bugs, but noone seems to want to help, so i've kind of had it10:05
Regurgitatorwell the problem is no matter what resolution i try its always as though its the wrong one, i get the menu that asks if i want to install or check cd for defects etc to come up properly but as soon as it loads into the installer it seems to go to a wrong resoltion10:06
Feldegastbrynk what printer?10:06
mneptonbrynk: have you spoken to your printer's manufacturer?10:06
gorndogcrimsun: thanks, routing issue appears to be resolved now.10:06
brynkFeldegast: epson aculaser c110010:06
frying_fishRegurgitator: well just deal with the wrong resolution for the install (or, either change it in the system->preferences->resolution) option, or kill X, and edit the xorg config it has10:07
Feldegastan epson printer doesn't work? strange10:07
frying_fishjust install it with a bad resolution, then fix it after install10:07
brynkmnepton: the printer works fine in dapper, the drivers aren't great though10:07
frying_fishits like windows, windows will only install on something like 800x600 (unless you give it a nice little hack to get a command prompt open and force it to change resolution)10:07
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frying_fishand now I must go, for I am due in at university.10:07
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Bokehmornin'10:08
mneptonbrynk: http://robert.cheramy.net/my.wiki/Divers/EpsonAcuLaserC110010:08
brynkmnepton: yeah, that doesn't work in edgy10:08
sandy16how to reinstall grub loader ?10:08
mneptonbrynk: have you spoken to Epson about it?10:09
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mneptonbrynk: and it seems to just be a .ppd, which you sould be able to set up via GNOME's printer dialogs10:09
brynkmnepton: no, i kinda have to do it with the drivers pointed to at the site you just linked10:09
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brynkthere fine btw, just not in edgy10:10
brynk*they're10:10
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lOkadinhow do i get wmv support?10:11
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Feldegastbrynk http://whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/437089.html10:13
Feldegastoops10:13
hintsweni think i'll just wait untill this show is finished then install ubuntu10:13
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Feldegasthintswen that link was for u10:13
hintswenok10:13
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Feldegastit's setting that card up in linux10:14
sandy16can any body help to reinstall my grub loader on dapper 6.06?10:14
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webbenIt looks like my old Thinkpad is on its last legs. Is anyone here running Ubuntu on Parallels, and if so, what's that like?10:16
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SoftIceI just want to warn people on ubuntu edgy upgrade, we had some nasty trouble with VOIP servers on the upgrade, a number of things not working..10:16
SoftIcemake sure you stage your upgrade first10:16
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SoftIcein #fedora10:16
SoftIcesorry.10:17
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roycebarberWindowsXP has a file checking program. It restores origional files, to repair the system. Does Ubuntu have that. Also, does linux use a Registry??10:17
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Acke_ubuhey i just installed fluxbox through synaptic. however, i cant auto generate menus. i tried with reconfigure from the menu and fluxbox-generate_menu in the terminal. any ideas??10:18
Acke_ubu!fluxbox10:18
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox10:18
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roycebarberRegistry...Linux... anyone have an answer.10:18
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hdcoolroycebarber: thank god no10:19
roycebarberHaha thank you!10:19
ptyroycebarber: it doesn't have a registry as such but gnome does have gconf which is registry like10:19
hdcoolit uses flat files.. if you fuck up your system, remove the files and restart all over10:19
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DBOhdcool, watch the swearing please =)10:19
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hdcoolhm :)10:19
SoftIceroycebarber: if I was you I would do a rsync backup of your system with an incremental solution.10:19
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SoftIcethen if something goes bang or if you delete something just compare date()10:20
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SoftIceand move backs the files that have changed since your system broke10:20
roycebarberOk now to my next previous question. (And yeah, my kids use this channel so please people be nice). Also..softice thats a good idea. Ok... Does a file checking program exist, or a "Repair Install"?10:20
roycebarberI'10:20
hdcoolin linux everything works kind off totally different.. :)10:21
aterphasmacan someone recommend a good laptop network utility? roaming is not conducive to edgy working very well, i've found10:21
hdcoolyou won't need all those fancy tools10:21
roycebarberI'm compairing Windows backup features to Ubuntu, because im brand new user to linux and im having troubble wrapping my head around all this Terminal talk10:21
frederick85hdcool: there's some really crappy programs for linux too, look at this http://pooby.freds-webs.net10:21
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SoftIceroycebarber: I have a nice backup solution on my site, http://www.security.web.za/rsync.htm10:22
webbenroycebarber: the reason for the Terminal talk is it tends to get things done faster than describing how to do it with GUI10:22
SoftIceits pretty easy to follow, mainly cut and paste10:22
hdcoolerm frederick85 ? :p10:22
roycebarberI imagine after i learn the basic terminal lingo, installing and editing files will be a lot easier. I hope anyway.10:22
frederick85hdcool: I MAde It :D10:22
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hdcool:p10:23
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samu2all right, so ubuntu is not working even though i did a fresh install10:23
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samu2keeps throwing me out to the login screen constantly10:23
scheurihi all10:23
SoftIcesamu2: what is the issue?10:23
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webbenroycebarber: which application would you like to edit files with? (I assume you don't know vim or nano or pico or emacs, so you probably something GUI like gedit).10:23
roycebarberRandom bit of data: I couldnt get my computer to boot to the Ubuntu 6.10 cd, so i had to install the previous ubuntu cd and then update it.10:23
webbenroycebarber: so wherever a instruction for the Terminal says something like sudo vim /path/to/some/file10:24
webbenroycebarber: just replace that with gksudo gedit /path/to/some/file10:24
webbenthat will launch gedit to edit the same file10:24
webben(I use Vim because it's a lot faster and fully featured, but it does take getting used to.)10:25
samu2SoftIce I only get to see the gnome desktop for maybe 15 seconds before I'm thrown out to the login screen again.10:25
roycebarberemacs im not sure, there are many things i like to edit and play with. webben, do you know of a site that explains Terminal lingo in a easy way.10:25
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SoftIcesamu2: well you need to check your x11 logs10:25
SoftIceand see whats causing it to crash, maybe monitor refresh rate, res, etc.10:25
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roycebarberAnyone know why WINE bugs out so easily..? I'm thinking maybe I did something wrong. No biggie, im mildly curious and playing with it.10:26
samu2SoftIce all right, where are the x11 logs?10:26
RegurgitatorLeaving Reason..::sleep::.. Time is now: 5:26am .UPP.10:26
SoftIcehehe, for all the years i'm used WINE its been buggy ;)10:26
webbenroycebarber: maybe http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal is a basic guide to the shell (it's for bash, Ubuntu uses dash, but the differences don't need to worry you at this point)10:26
SoftIcesamu2: all your logs sit in /var/log10:26
SoftIcejust run 'tail -f logname'10:27
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SoftIceand it will show the last part of the log and tail if anthing else is being passed to it.10:27
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webbenroycebarber: particularly worth learning the basic file/directory commands (mkdir (make directories), rm -r (to delete files and directories), ls -al (list files in current directory), cd (change to another director) )10:27
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Magillaif I do a dist-upgrade from dapper, what are the chances it will go horribly wrong?10:28
stylusit seems the au repository for ubuntu is down.10:28
webbenroycebarber: other than that, one mainly uses /particular/ commands with the terminal which aren't really "terminal lingo" just applications in their own right10:28
crimsunMagilla: 50/5010:28
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roycebarberI used to know all the DOS Prompt commands... so terminal is alien to me, yet im sure i'll soak it up fast.10:28
Magillacrimsun: they aren't promising odds...10:28
webbenroycebarber: like apt-get, which is for "getting"/installing packages with the Apt package manager10:28
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crimsunMagilla: no better, no worse.10:29
webbenroycebarber: or apt-cache search (for searching potential packages for install)10:29
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webbenroycebarber: so there's not like one page to explain the terminal, any more than there'd be one page to explain Windows.10:29
samu2Isn't ctrl+alt+fx the shortcut to get to terminal x?10:29
webbensamu2: yes10:29
roycebarberwebben you bring up things i didnt realize, im going to play with apt-get and the other things you speak of. its facinating to flex the power of linux because its so different than windows.10:30
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samu2ok, well it seems i made ubuntu crash by pressing ctrl+alt+f110:30
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webbenroycebarber: If you used to know the DOS prompt, you won't have too much trouble easing into Terminal.10:30
roycebarberI'm going to ask a possibly dumb question: Does Linux use C++? Im sure it doesnt but i dont know.10:30
sparrroycebarber: it does10:31
webbenroycebarber: Some applications are programmed in C++ yes.10:31
sparrwebben: i think he mans linux itself10:31
webbenoh10:31
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roycebarberC++ works in linux? Then... why do c++ written programs not run on both windows and linux?10:32
sparrroycebarber: they do10:32
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roycebarberSo there is a common file extension that works in linux and windows..?10:33
eyequeueg++ (1)              - GNU project C and C++ compiler10:33
sparrhell, i know a c++ game that uses SDL for graphics that runs on windows, linux, osx, palm, zaurus, gp2x, psp, nintendo ds, gamecube, ps2, xbox10:33
webbenroycebarber: it doesn't work quite like that10:33
sparrroycebarber: file extension?  sure.  .cc or .c++ or .cpp would work10:33
samu2SoftIce so, did you mean Xorg.0.log ?10:33
webbenroycebarber: you have to recompile to run on the other OS10:33
roycebarberHaha this is quite the educational experience for me!10:33
webbenroycebarber: and it depends on what libraries the C++ programs use10:33
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roycebarberWebben the libraries idea is something i was wondering, thank you.10:34
webbenroycebarber: e.g. to run on both windows and linux, it must use a GUI toolkit that works on both (e.g. GTK)10:34
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webbenroycebarber: or compile with a different toolkit on each system10:34
CotRo|eRi have set up proftpd on my ubuntu and when i acces it i cant write to it... how do i make it write?10:34
roycebarberEither WINE had better emulate every windows program, or someone should write programs that run on every os without recompiling it.10:34
webbenroycebarber: I think they did. it's called Java.10:35
sparrroycebarber: what webben said10:35
Kvarkhow do you change language?10:35
hintswenubuntu is gnome right?10:35
sparrhintswen: ish10:35
ub12Hello. Can some one please tell me how do i set a password for su?10:35
webbenhintswen: Ubuntu Desktop comes with gnome installed10:35
hintswenok, thanks10:35
sparrhintswen: by default, yes.  but ubuntu provides kde packages as well.  kubuntu has kde as the default.10:35
sparrxubuntu has xfce as the default10:36
webbenhitswen: you can run Ubuntu without gnome, and you can install alternate wms like kde xfce fluxbox etc10:36
roycebarberIs gnome more stable than KDE10:36
hintswenI was just trying to work out the difference lo10:36
ub12Kvark you can choose language at the login window10:36
eyequeue!sudo > ub1210:36
webbenroycebarber: who knows? (the best a question like that could do is start a flamewar ;) )10:36
sparrgnome is so far behind kde in terms of eye candy and features...  i cant imagine why there is still any competition...  except maybe for gtk+ being Free and Qt not.10:36
CotRo|eR!proftpd10:36
ubotuproftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9 (edgy), package size 579 kB, installed size 1508 kB10:36
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ub12eyequeue, I do not want to use sudo10:36
CotRo|eRi have set up proftpd on my ubuntu and when i acces it i cant write to it... how do i make it write?10:36
Kvarkub12 thanks i'll try that!10:36
ub12Kvark np10:37
eyequeueub12, nevertheless, read the url the bot gave10:37
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webbenroycebarber: most of the gnome-kde fanboyism focuses not on stability but on "simplicity" vs "power"10:37
ub12eyequeue, ok thanks10:37
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eyequeueub12, it covers what you want, no doubt (-i)10:37
sparrwebben: dont forget eye candy  :)10:38
ZeeOhey guys i'm trying to play a DVD on tv box but thing is its got no dvdrom in it how can i a share a dvdrom over the network10:38
tacopon_Plz someone tell me how to change primary booting from Ubuntu to WindowsXP10:38
sparrZeeO: same way you share any other drive10:38
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milamberhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29692/ ive pasted there the output from my burner, someaone can have a look, i still cant burn cd-roms10:39
eyequeuetacopon_, "default=" in /boot/grub/menu.lst, then sudo update-grub10:39
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webbensparr: Yes... but as both sides (natch) insist they have eye candy, that's a bit zero sum. Simplicity vs power approaches a clear difference.10:39
CotRo|eRi have set up proftpd on my ubuntu and when i acces it i cant write to it... how do i make it write?10:39
CotRo|eRi have set up proftpd on my ubuntu and when i acces it i cant write to it... how do i make it write?10:39
hintswenI might get Knoppix lol10:39
ZeeOmy laptop is kubuntu thats what the dvdrom is coming from10:39
sparrtacopon_: first, play a dozen rounds of russian roulette.  come back after.10:39
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roycebarberI cant find my windows directory when im running ubuntu. will i have to stand on my head to make it work, because im new at this.10:39
webbenroycebarber: you probably want to look into ntfs-3g10:39
sparrwebben: plausible.  i have tried gnome a few times in the last few years, and what they call "simplicity" i call "limited to the features kde had 3 years ago"10:39
edgyHi, i downloaded edgy iso and mounted -o looped it so I now have all the .debs files, can I upgrade dapper to edgy without burning the iso to a CD? something like dpkg -i *10:40
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roycebarberIf I find my Windows directory (by the way what is "ntfs-3g???"), will that make WINE run better?10:40
eyequeueedgy, out then in /var/cache/apt/archives, then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (after editing sources.list etc)10:41
eyequeueedgy, put them10:41
ub12eyequeue, Thanks it gave me excactly the information I was after. I have been asked for su password when trying to set up a cups printer using "localhost:631" method but it would not accept my sudo pasword.10:41
eyequeueub12, :)10:41
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edgyeyequeue: thx a lot for the idea I will try now and report back if there is any problem10:42
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eyequeueedgy, dpkg -i is too dangerous, apt will handle sequencing and dependencies10:42
Juhazsparr, what you call "features" and "eye candy", I call endless clutter of ugly junk being puked on me whether I want it or not10:42
eyequeueedgy, are you fluent on sources.list and apt-get update?10:42
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roycebarberWhen I plug in a USB hard drive, can i disconnect it at any time or do i need to somehow eject it first in the os????10:43
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samu2ok, i managed to switch to a terminal and login with ctrl+alt+f210:43
sparrJuhaz: meh, it can all be turned off in kde if you dont want it.  im not a fan of eye candy, but some of the basic things that i need in a GUI just arent there in gnome10:43
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samu2then i switch back to gdm and try to login and get thrown out as usual... and then if i try to switch to terminal2 again the system crashes10:44
sparrJuhaz: take baobab, gnome finally has a graphical 'treeview' file browser (ish)...  comparable to the same utilities in windows 8 years ago, and kde 3 years ago.10:44
jdawsonCan anyone recommend a good tut/doc on installing ubuntu next to linux on my laptop? I have two seperate partitions already, C (win) and D (nothing) -- just nervous about screwing my win partition, important stuff on there.10:44
sparrjdawson: ubuntu is linux...10:44
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jdawsonmistake, next to winxp :P10:44
sparrsure.  just install it on D10:44
eyequeuewhat is D?10:45
jdawson'oh right, cool thanks10:45
sparr(nothing), apparently  :)10:45
edgyeyequeue: where should I find the .deb's file on the cd?! the pool/main and pool/restricted only contains 29 basic packages10:45
roycebarberjdawson ubuntu can safly adjust your partition automatically.. but please for pinaples sake buy a backup drive and backup your files first.10:45
sparrthen you can set up the windows boot loader on C to give you a menu with D as an option, or you can install grub/lilo on the mbr or on C10:45
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eyequeueedgy, pool would be where they reside, you may have the livecd which has less debs on it10:46
jdawsonRighto thanks10:46
samu2yeah, backup files first if you have anything impoo10:46
samu2rtant10:46
CotRo|eRi have an ubuntu ftp server and when i try to upload it says permission denied.... any help???10:46
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sparrCotRo|eR: the user you are logged into ftp as does not have write permission to the folder you are in10:46
edgyeyequeue: i dowloaded the ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso10:46
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CotRo|eRsparr: how do i make write persmission pls?10:47
eyequeueedgy, yes, "desktop" is the livecd (as opposed to alternate, which i prefer)10:47
roycebarberMy boot loader says im using an old version of Ubuntu, but i know im using 6.10. is my boot loader out of date, is that possible.10:47
edgyeyequeue: no one told me this before! ;)10:47
eyequeueroycebarber, which boot loader?  grub?10:47
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edgyeyequeue: so desktop is the livecd and alternate is the desktop cd or what?!10:48
samu2are there any changes to gnome in 6.10 that might be incompatible with older hardware?10:48
roycebarbereyeque, im not sure what bootloader i use, it came with ubuntu 6.06 i believe, and it still thinks thats what os i use.10:48
sparrroycebarber: the boot loader configuration doesnt technically have anything to do with your actual ubuntu version, you could put Ubuntu 17.35 in your menu.lst if you wanted10:48
roycebarberhaha10:49
eyequeueedgy, look on the cd download page of your favorite mirror for descriptions of "desktop" "alternate" and "server" isos10:49
Xtevengug10:49
NineTeen67CometLittle question about dual monitors and games .. Is there a way to kick the game down to just one? They keep centering on the split between monitors and it makes it hard to exit the game let alone play it .. Help?10:49
XtevenI have an ubuntu 6.06 that keeps crashing on me, for no apparent reason :(10:49
eyequeueedgy, "desktop" is basically filled up with all that live stuff, so no room for many debs really.  alternate has the power :)10:49
roycebarberI cant move my GMAIL Notifier icon when the program is running. It likes to live in the top right of my screen. anyone know how to move it?10:50
edgyeyequeue: ok thx I got it now10:50
eyequeueedgy, good luck :)10:51
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roycebarberAnyone have an answer for NineTeen67Comet? I'm afraide that might happen to me.10:51
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Xtevenwhen a sata disk shows errors in smartctl, could that be a reason why it hangs sometimes ? because it hung up without extra errors in smartctl too10:52
roycebarberDo I ever need to run Defrag in Linux? I had to run it in windows all the time.10:53
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FRETgood morning10:53
samu2i noticed another strange thing... the top 3 rows of the character '6' are missing when i am in a textmode terminal...10:53
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eyequeueroycebarber, what is it?10:54
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rc-1my bios screen/splash screen are all messed up, and other video errors too, (also in windows) do you think i need a new graphics card?10:55
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samu2What's the main package for xfce?10:55
WizardlingDoes the new version of Ubuntu finally work on old CRT iMacs without workarounds?10:56
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roycebarberEyeqye, defrag is a windows program that organizes the files on the hard drive so they can be accessed faster. im not entirly sure how it does it, i think it simply puts the files near the center of the circular hard drive platter, so they read quicker. i dont know if linux has Defragmentation, so i guess i'll have to look around.10:56
enquestHas anybody run into a bug, with 6.06 lts. The date changed today from 1 nov to 01 jan 2001 2 o'clock10:57
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eyequeueroycebarber, common linux filesystems have no need for defragmenting10:57
eyequeueroycebarber, ext3 for example10:57
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Cyronroycebarber, it does it by making sure all the bits of a given file are physically located beside each other on the hard drive so it can read it in one sweep of the head over the platter10:59
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WhoopieSeveas: Hi, where can I find a package for your falcon repository?10:59
lobosquehey guys! im trying to watch a movie but it says that i need a decoder... and i downloaded a lot... for divx, for mpeg1 and mpeg2... but the movie still not playing!!10:59
eyequeue!seveas > Whoopie11:00
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eyequeue!seveas > Whoopie_11:03
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Juhazsparr, baobab is hardly the first gnome disk space usage analyzer ever. gdmap for example is as old as kdirstat (~5 years), big deal if something has official flag.11:03
Whoopie_eyequeue: thanks, I found his repo before. but I can't find a package to install falcon to setup an own repo.11:04
Solopher(:11:04
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jpjacobsHi guys! I want to know how to roll my own debs (without checkinstall). I've got only compiled binaries in a tree which were supposed to extracted directly in to / (but i don't like that)11:05
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apokryphosjpjacobs: /msg ubotu packaging11:05
sparrJuhaz: im talking about the graphical part.  the rest is just "du" in a pretty wrapper11:06
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samu2ok, i tried installing xfce but even then i get thrown out to the gdm immediately...11:06
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samu2i really don't know what's wrong now11:06
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typecasthi11:08
lobosquehey guys! im trying to watch a movie but it says that i need a decoder... and i downloaded a lot... for divx, for mpeg1 and mpeg2... but the movie still not playing!!11:08
Xtevencan anyone tell me how netconsole works in ubuntu ? I passed it the netconsole= parameter with all my config, and I get nothing11:08
typecasthttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kopete/+bug/69583 <--- when will this fix go into the official ubuntu-archives?11:09
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eyequeueWhoopie, http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/pool/dapper-seveas/extras/falcon_1.5.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb11:09
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CheekyBoincGood Morning11:10
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cfmHi all. Is there a way to determine the physical configuration of RAM in my Ubuntu box without opening the box? I've checked /proc/meminfo, dmesg and the usual suspects in /var/log.11:10
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mygodwhere is the .xchm11:11
|thundermygod; 'locate *.xchm'11:11
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lobosquehey guys! im trying to watch a movie but it says that i need a decoder... and i downloaded a lot... for divx, for mpeg1 and mpeg2... but the movie still not playing!!11:12
lastnodehow do i completley purge a package so it will re-download it from the repos?11:12
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lastnode(instead of installing it from a cache)11:13
lastnode!divx > lobosque11:13
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Juhazsparr, nautilus already had a tree for a while before baobab was included. maybe year or so11:14
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eyequeuelastnode, sudo dpkg --purge foo11:15
minetushi, can someone help me? i need to make some kernel adjustments (see http://gul.est.ips.pt/downloads/octal/octal_howto.pdf step 3) but i dont know how to11:15
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mygodi can't find it11:15
sparrJuhaz: not a tree, a treeview11:15
eyequeuelastnode, sudo apt-get clean, before your install command11:16
sparrerr11:16
sparra treeMAP11:16
sparrmy bad  :)11:16
Xtevenwhere can I set kernel module parameters for modules to be loaded at boottime, in ubuntu ?11:16
sparrnot the best time of day for me to be remembering technical terms11:16
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mygodI can't find the path where the .xchm is11:16
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Juhazsparr, which is just what the 2001 gdmap also does...11:16
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sparrinteresting.  and this is part of gnome?11:17
HeathenDanwhat's a good program for copying a vcd to an iso file?11:18
sparrHeathenDan: dd11:18
HeathenDandd?11:18
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eyequeuedd (1)               - convert and copy a file11:18
eyequeuedd (1posix)          - convert and copy a file11:18
sparrdd the cdrom drive device to a file11:18
jpjacobsthx apokryphos11:18
sparr.iso == image of ISO9660 filesystem11:19
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HeathenDandd is command line? does it have man?11:20
sparryes.  yes.11:20
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HeathenDanok, lemme go read it then11:20
sparrdd if=/dev/cdrom of=something.iso11:20
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sparrthat should work, dont think you need any other options for a plain iso image11:20
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HeathenDanalrighty, thx11:21
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johnemahi11:22
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HeathenDanhmm, does it have verbose mode?11:22
johnemado you have a rich sources.list for ubuntu edgy ??11:22
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HeathenDanthis doesn't look right... the output iso is only 300kB11:25
boinkrich? like in a lot of money?11:25
gnarulacan someone help me?? i cannot see the gaim icon in top panel when i close gaim..11:25
samu2Is it possible to scroll up in a textmode terminal somehow?11:26
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boinksamu2: you could use tools like "less"11:26
boinkman less11:26
eyequeuesamu2, , pgup11:26
samu2Or can you only pipe output to some pager program?11:26
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eyequeuesamu2, sometimes shift-pgup11:27
samu2eyequeue oh that worked, thanks11:28
eyequeuesamu2, np11:28
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samu2So.. now I can't login to any window managers. I'd like to try and kill off the gdm and then run startx from another terminal to see if I can get some kind of errors to show. What can I do to kill the gdm stuff gracefully?11:29
eyequeuesamu2, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop11:29
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ozzloyhow do i make my laptop automatically connect to one of the locations i've set when it returns from hibernate?11:31
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ozzloyi'll be in one location, hibernate, resuscitate in another location that i frequent11:32
ozzloywhat's the proper word for coming back from hibernation?11:33
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samu2meh, system totally crashed again11:33
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raduhi, how can I make my X so that it uses both my monitors?11:33
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eyequeuein edgy xchat, how do i tell it to use firefox for viewing urls, not dillo?11:35
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scheuri!pastebin11:37
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:37
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webbeneyequeue: probably System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications11:38
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eyequeuewebben, already set to firefox there :(  but i get dillo from xchat, and can't see where that's set11:39
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webbeneyequeue: this is XChat-GNOME IRC isn't it?11:40
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eyequeuewebben, minus the gnome11:40
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eyequeuewebben, xchat 2.6.611:40
webbeneyequeue: oh it's normal xchat ... i can't remember now it's in the preferences somewhere11:40
webbeneyequeue: if you can't find it, ask in #xchat11:41
eyequeuewebben, yeah, i don't see it at all in 2.6.611:41
eyequeuehmmm, i wonder if it's something that's only sourced on program start ... if i need to exit and restart xchat :/11:41
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eyequeuebrb11:41
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Icooguys I finnaly got my Wifi card running yesterday and I installed wifi-radar (network-manager didn't find anything), and Wifi-radar finds my network...but I can't connect11:42
Icooit says aquring IP adress...does that a few seconds and then stops11:43
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Rookie!beryl11:45
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.11:45
jattI've a problem with the konsole available fonts in edgy. Settings->Font->Select shows only six different fonts available, although there are more fonts installed and configured in my machine.11:45
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jattgnome-terminal shows in Edit->Current Profile->Font at least 20 different fonts.11:46
Icooguys I finnaly got my Wifi card running yesterday and I installed wifi-radar (network-manager didn't find anything), and Wifi-radar finds my network...but I can't connect11:46
Icooguys I finnaly got my Wifi card running yesterday and I installed wifi-radar (network-manager didn't find anything), and Wifi-radar finds my network...but I can't connect11:46
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Icoosorry11:46
Icoodouble post11:47
newbieyay..just installed UBUNTU!11:47
ghos[t] Congrats!!11:47
newbiejust wondering, tried to use Rhytm box11:47
newbieand it didnt play songs from my ipod11:47
newbieany hints?11:47
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susscorfa!ipod11:48
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto11:48
znejk!i81011:48
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:48
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newbieah ok thanks..its not so much about syncing and stuff..i just cant play11:48
newbieThere were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins11:48
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susscorfai don't know about that newbie11:50
minetushi, can someone help me? i need to make some kernel adjustments (see http://gul.est.ips.pt/downloads/octal/octal_howto.pdf step 3) but i dont know how to, does anyone know what i can do ? thanx?11:50
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eyequeueokay, the solution was sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser11:51
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eyequeuevery non-intuitive11:51
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edgyHi, how can I set my shell to redirect the command errors to a file by default. so instead of doing ./a.out 2>err-file I just do ./a.out?11:51
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Icooguys I finnaly got my Wifi card running yesterday and I installed wifi-radar (network-manager didn't find anything), and Wifi-radar finds my network...but I can't connect11:53
Icooit says aquring IP adress...does that a few seconds and then stops11:53
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smoenuxHey everyone ^.^11:55
kzmHmm...upgrading problem: trying to go from breezy to edgy (yeah, I know).  /sbin/vol_id was previously owned by udev, in edgy it belongs to volumeid.11:55
kzmSo that blocks the upgrade of volumeid, and thus the whole process.11:55
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kzmAny way around this?11:55
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smoenuxkzm: I heard it's a bad Idea to upgrade by skipping versions11:55
eyequeuekzm, breezy to edgy isn't supported, breezy to dapper to edgy11:56
amayerahi11:56
kzmHmm...okay, I guess I can go via dapper, then.11:56
smoenuxkzm: as eyeque says :P11:56
amayeraI am using the latest ubuntu edgy. when I send my system into suspend2ram and it wakes up sometimes the mouse does just blink but not work (optical mouse). dmesg says that it is being disconnected and connected all the time.11:56
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Lynouresmoenux: what about between LTS versions? Or from LTS to shorter term support version later on?11:56
gilnimgood morning11:57
edgyeyequeue: why jumping a version matters? shouldn't just installing a new package replace the older irrespective of how old it is?11:57
LynoureSeems a bit annoying if there will be no way to upgrade to the next LTS.11:57
smoenuxLynoure; hmmm.. I actually have no Idea.. I just read on the forums that you shouldn't skip versions when upgrading11:57
Lynoureedgy: upgrade needs to deal with configuration files, too.11:57
kzmedgy: the problem is that files are moved between packages.11:58
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kzmedgy: presumably, this must be handled on a case-by-case basis.11:58
smoenuxpersonally I just downloaded the image, and installed a completely new Edgy from scratch... havent had any problems at all11:58
edgyLynoure: so it would upgrade but you may lose your configuration?11:58
Lynoureedgy: it's not that simple11:59
eyequeueedgy, no, there's a lot more than just package versions involved.  for example, edgy no longer uses sysvinit, and the sysvinit->upstart upgrade path is very fragile, scott only wrote it for cery specific known situations, not for any possible combination11:59
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eyequeues/cery/very/11:59
kzmRemove the running kernel image (not recommended) [No] ?11:59
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gilnimEverytime I startup gnome my "space"-key doesn't work. I have to go to keyboard preferences and must choose another kind of keyboard driver. then i take the old keyboard driver for my standard keyboard and space-key works again.12:00
kung!uuid12:00
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid"12:00
edgyeyequeue: so why upstart won't just remove sysvinit altogether and install itself? (sorry if it's silly question but still I didn't get it)12:00
eyequeueLynoure, i suspect by dapper+10, lts->newlts will be addressed, heh12:00
eyequeueedgy, again, it's not that simple, you need to have a ton of little steps done in the interim, in a very specific order12:01
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eyequeueedgy, any one of them breaks, your system won't boot, and you most likely ill have no clue how to repair12:01
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gilnimanother question: is there an official driver how-to for fglrx drivers in edgy?12:02
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eyequeueedgy, are you, as implied, on edgy now?  cat /etc/fstab and see how different it looks from in dapper, as one example12:02
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gilnim!edgy12:03
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)12:03
gilnimis there a page only for edgy?12:03
edgyeyequeue: my fstab in edgy looks exactly like in dapper but I haven't done a fresh installation12:03
gilnimi mean something like a supportpage12:03
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eyequeueedgy, this is dapper-style: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       012:04
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eyequeueedgy, this is edgy-style: UUID=56154b56-f55a-45e4-bcf4-b90c632dfad5 /usr/local ext3 defaults 0 212:05
edgyeyequeue: I have such uuid thing in my edgy12:05
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eyequeueedygi suspect you did a dist-upgrade, not a fresh install?12:05
edgyeyequeue: yes exactly12:05
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edgyeyequeue: i don't know now how can i turn my fstab into the new format12:06
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Tmobanyone here know how to use a laptop such that when i'm hope i can hook it to a monitor and get a dual screen?12:06
edgyeyequeue: and don't even know why the new format could be better12:06
cyziehello, im running xubuntu, is there any step by step for vino ?12:06
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Tmobcyzie, apt-get install vino ?12:06
cyzieTmob, yes, waht about configuration12:07
cyzie?12:07
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gilnimTmob: ati or nvdia?12:08
ubunubhello :)12:08
Tmobcyzie, dpkg-reconfigure vino12:08
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Tmobgilnim, intel 91512:08
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maxb_at_workI have a weird problem after edgy upgrade. 'apt-get dist-upgrade' wants to remove upstart again, and reinstall sysvinit!!12:09
gilnimTmob: do you have some kind of control software?12:09
maxb_at_workAny suggestions on what I might look at>12:09
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Tmobgilnim, like?12:09
eyequeuemaxb_at_work, odd12:09
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chadi have a Problem using Physical (raw) disk - Linux host - XP Guest ... im getting a bluescreen, when trying to start winxp.. i suspect it is a hd driver issue..  in vmware it says the disk is IDE ..but the disk is really a sata.. i get as far as the "winxo is starting up, logo"12:10
eyequeuemaxb_at_work, something to try, no guarantees if it will help12:10
gilnimfor ati there are several: aticontrol, fireglcontrol, ...12:10
Bonez56hi all. i have an edgy server install cd, and an IBM eServer x300 series server. It will not detect my network card, it's a gigabit NIC of some sort. Does anyone know what I can do or where I can get drivers?12:10
gilnimbut i don't have a intel card12:10
maxb_at_workapt debugging reports "Package upstart has broken dep on sysvinit"12:10
eyequeuemaxb_at_work, sudo apt-get install upstart ... see what it suggests, don't say yes unless you agree12:10
cyzieTmob, dpkg-reconfigure for what?!12:10
maxb_at_work"upstart is already the newest version."12:10
mirakhi12:11
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eyequeuemaxb_at_work, sudo apt-get --reinstall install upstart12:11
Tmobcyzie, its to reconfigure ur package12:11
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cyzieTmob, there is NOTHING to reconfigure for vino.............12:11
ubunubis there any way i can get my su password? i dont even remember setting one, and i've installed ubuntu just yesterday12:11
mirakmy boot sequence stalls and after a moment says it can't mount /dev/mapper/mylinuxroot12:11
Bonez56anyone know how I can get Ubuntu to detect my network card?12:11
Tmobcyzie, if u actually want to edit the vino settings.. then u hvae to refer to program man i guess12:11
Tmobsince i never used vino :)12:11
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eyequeuemaxb_at_work, wait, when was your last sudo apt-get update?  could you perhaps not have the current Packages.gz?12:12
cyzieTmob, there is no man vino :(12:12
Tmobubunub, u dont have a root account12:12
gilnimBonez56: Search google for NIC go to products and search yours - maybe the have drivers. At least you could find out the name of your card and then ask google for linux drivers.12:12
ubunubso i cant update nothing?12:12
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Tmobubunub, you just type ur local user pass when u sudo12:12
Bonez56gilnim, the IBM site only has drivers for a 2.4 kernel12:12
eyequeue!root > ubunub12:12
fnfubunub: I don't need to restore your password, just boot into single mode and reset it.12:12
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mirakhelp12:12
gilnimBonez56: What about the WWW?12:12
eyequeuefnf, bad advice and not advised, /msg ubotu root12:12
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Bonez56gilnim, i can not find anything. i did end up getting the 2.4 driver but i don't know what to do with it. how do i load it into the ubuntu setup process?12:13
ubunubmh ok, so i can update ubuntu with sudo pw?12:13
gilnimanother question: is there a driver how-to for official fglrx drivers in edgy?12:13
eyequeuefnf, ubuntu handles security differently from other distros :)12:13
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eyequeueubunub, read the url the bot gave you, setting a root password is NOT advised in ubuntu12:14
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gilnimBonez56: what kind of package do you have?12:14
maxb_at_workeyequeue: No, I'm fully up-to-date with gb.archive.ubuntu.org.   Haven't tried the --reinstall yet... I'm a bit reluctant to, as I can't really see how that's going to change anything.12:14
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fnfeyequeue: I'm running Edgy Server, but I though his problem was he forgot his password. Perhaps.12:14
eyequeueubunub, sudo apt-get install packagename, then your user password, is an example command :)12:14
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Bonez56gilnim, it's just a file without an extention12:15
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Bonez56gilnim, it's not a package12:15
ubunubow tnx guys, going thru that bot link12:15
eyequeuemaxb_at_work, yeah, the dependency error gave me the idea it could be an "ealry-upstart-version" issue, but i guess not12:15
gilnimoh ...12:15
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gilnimBonez56: sorry can't help you with that12:16
Mondoshawanhi all12:16
gilnimhi Mondoshawan12:16
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hulkhi12:16
gilnimhi hulk12:17
MondoshawanI have ubuntu 6.10 installed an Firefox crashes down regular and Evolution also all 60 minutes somebody also have this problems?12:17
hulkme too12:18
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gilnimme not12:18
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Mondoshawani think it is the new GNOME12:18
hulkand the same problem with amule12:18
Mondoshawani hope there are patches for gnome soon12:19
SupremacyGnuhello, I seem to have problems with my updatemanager... I have a package that's broken, but not even synaptic can repair it.12:19
concept10#ubuntu-offtopic12:20
Mondoshawanwhat package is damaged?12:20
SupremacyGnufreepats12:20
mirakmy boot sequence stalls and after a moment says it can't mount /dev/mapper/mylinuxroot for kernel 2.6.17-1012:20
mirakI can't boot12:20
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wouarenhi12:21
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hintswenwhat's the linux equivilant of exe? lol12:25
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abzehi have a problem, beep media player only have root permisson, any one know how to fix that?12:27
abzehave no idea how that happend, first time12:27
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mamzers555abze; what do you mean with root-permission?12:28
abzeit can only start when ur root12:28
hintswencyaz, time to install linux12:28
abzei think :S12:28
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mamzers555abze; what happens if you start it in terminal, what output do you get?12:29
abzeit wont start playing, and i think it gott installed only for root, and not user like me12:29
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abzeim sorry im new to this12:30
siouxhi ubuntus :-)12:30
bronze" beep media player only have root permisson" --> "only root has execute permission on  beep media"12:30
abzei tryde beep in terminal, and nothing happens12:30
chadi have a Problem using Physical (raw) disk - Linux host - XP Guest ... im getting a bluescreen, when trying to start winxp.. i suspect it is a hd driver issue..  in vmware it says the disk is IDE ..but the disk is really a sata.. i get as far as the "winxo is starting up, logo"12:30
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siouxdo i wrong or on dapper was a gnome gui to mount fat disk?12:30
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jdawsonHello, I have followed a tut and mounted my windows drive (sda1) to /dev/win ... all fine, I can see it and if I sudo in the console I can list it's structure. However, it's read-only and I can't access it from the GUI/gnome interface. I've tried chown and etc.12:31
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mamzers555bronze; maybe you can help him, i don't know much about beep media player12:31
protocol1how do I go about upgrading from dapper to edgy?12:31
protocol1is there a console command I can use?12:31
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SupremacyGnuabze, try to reinstall it but this time not as root12:32
siouxprotocol see the topic but I do not reccomend!12:32
usamahashimihi all12:32
mirakhelp me12:32
abzedo i use sudo apt-get install beep?12:32
mirakplz12:32
usamahashimihow can i install ubuntu in nokia 6610?12:32
Vorboteprotocol1: sudo sh -c "update-manager -c"12:32
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alekhello, which command removes program from autorun (init.d) ?12:33
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dom_fHi.  I upgraded to Edgy a few days back and just noticed that my root filesystem is not showing up in either df or mount - could someone else running edgy jsee if they are seeing the same behaviour?12:33
protocol1Vorbote, thank you12:33
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abzedidnt work that either :S12:33
abzelike xmms very much, and would like to check out beep :P12:34
defryskbeep-media-player12:34
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richeehey hpnadig_12:34
Vorboteprotocol1: yes, do read the pages mentiones in the /topic12:35
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Vorbotethough...12:35
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jdawsonHello, I have followed a tut and mounted my windows drive (sda1) to /dev/win ... all fine, I can see it and if I sudo in the console I can list it's structure. However, it's read-only and I can't access it from the GUI/gnome interface. I've tried chown and  chmod but little luck, not googling much help either. thanks.12:36
hpnadig_hi richee12:36
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abzehi thatnx mate, beeb-media-player helped :P12:36
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abzeso what is beep then, because it gott installed hehe12:36
Vorbote!ntfs-3g12:36
ubotuntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=171012:36
abzethought it was the player12:36
dom_fHas anyone running edgy got one minute to check something for me?12:36
wouarenyes12:37
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jdawsonubotu: is that the best/only way? as I don't need write, I just want to read the structure through gnome explorer -- (I remember being able to do this in fedora no probs) .. thanks12:37
dom_fwouaren: I upgraded to Edgy a few days back and just noticed that my root filesystem is not showing up in either df or mount - could you check to see if you  are seeing the same behaviour?12:37
Vorbotejdawson: ubotu is a bot, and yes, it is the only way.12:37
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jdawsonoh lol12:37
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nothlitVorbote, ubuntu doesn't have captiventfs support?12:38
defrysk!ubotu12:38
wouarenno i see /root12:38
salimhi, I have used a patch to the kernel, but I want to use the old kernel again, I can boot in grub in it, but I want the old one to be the standard, how can I do that?12:38
dom_fThanks12:38
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wouarensomeone now the console command to switch to en language when you are in fr,it etc.. ?12:38
wouarenknow12:38
CyronEdgy does hide a bunch of folders by default12:38
mamzers555abze; if you enter in terminal beep --help or man beep then you will know what it is12:39
Vorbotenothlit: no, and to be frank, it better not. Captive is a hack for 2.4 kernels and the forward port to 2.6 is, err, defective.12:39
mamzers555abze; if you enter in terminal "beep --help" or "man beep" then you will know what it is12:39
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Cyronsudo kate /.hidden and you can edit the folders that are visible12:39
CyronOr you can delete .hidden altogether12:39
CyronThat might solve it for you12:39
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abzemamzers thanx will try that12:39
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Mr_Panhi12:40
Mr_Pani have a problem with upgrade to 6.10. apt give me an error code (1) processing xfonts-intl-european_1.2.1-6 . any idea?12:40
abzelike the beep media player :D12:40
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abzelove linux, who needs vista!12:40
alekvista sux:P12:40
dom_fOK - my root file system is not showing up in df or mount but is obviouslty mounted!   Does nayone have any suggestions about how I start to troubleshoot this?  I've sepnt some time googling but to no avail.12:40
nothlitCyron, i don't see a .hidden.. but this is a 6.10 beta install12:40
alekhungryyy12:41
alekwhere can I find the list of commands in ubuntu?12:41
CyronIt's under /12:41
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mamzers555alek; which commands?12:41
alekany12:41
alekall commands12:41
KusKussohi all!12:41
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nothlitCyron, sudo ls /.hidden | ls: /.hidden: No such file or directory12:42
mamzers555alek; in terminal press "tabulator-key" twice12:42
Vorbotedom_f: do a "sudo vol_id -u /dev/<root partition>" and make sure it matches the UUID in /etc/fstab for tour root partition.12:42
alekbecause I often want to do sth and I dont know which command do it12:42
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Vorbotedom_f: make sure as well that /etc/mtab exists and it is readable.12:42
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webbenalek: Google is your best friend here12:42
webbenalek: and us of course ;)12:42
alekyes i was looking through google but I didnt find anything12:43
alek:(12:43
CyronSorry nothlit, I'm done for ideas then :)12:43
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webbenalek: no, i mean, for the individual things you want to do12:43
mamzers555alek; this is very good for you i think: http://www.ss64.com/bash/index.html12:43
alekcause I want to remove program prom init.d12:43
webbennot for a list of all the commands12:43
alekgreat!12:43
webbenalek: what program?12:43
nothlitCyron, I don't think i have anything hidden anyways :)12:44
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alekI added my own program to list of program which are running during linux-botting but i dont remember the name of this command12:44
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alekcause I want to remove this program12:44
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aleklist of programs*12:45
mirakhi12:45
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webbenalek: well what did your own program /do/?12:45
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alekit doesnt matter:P12:46
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dom_fVorbote:  the UUID from vol_id matches /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab existss and is readable - however mtab does not contacin an entry for root12:46
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kaflanhellow. how to make kdesu prompt for root password instead of the password of the invoking user? (i totally do sudo passwd root, and patch /etc/sudoers with rootpw argument).12:46
mirakfor an install over lvm do I need a server iso or a desktop iso ?12:46
webbenalek: I'm asking because it does matter, obviously.12:46
drowstarI have installed ubuntu-desktop on a fresh _K_ubuntu edgy installation and gtk2-themes don't work (I get solid grey squares instead of buttons for example). any hints?12:46
drowstarkaflan: kdesu12:46
alekI remember I used some command to add program to "autorun". and now I want to remove it12:46
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siouxHow can I mount my fat disk on edgy? dappar had a gnome gui to do it!12:46
jdawsonCool that worked, thanks12:47
drowstarkaflan: sorry, pressed send to soon :)12:47
kaflandowstar: np12:47
oceanisi want o install games on dapper but from the cd..?12:47
alekI  had copied this program to /etc/init.d and used some command to add this progam to the 'autorun list'12:47
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webbenalek: you could start by having a look at System -> Administration -> Services in Gnome12:48
alekI hadnt X12:48
eyequeuealek, sudo update-rc.d?12:48
drowstarkaflan: afaik sudo is meant to work that way. kdesu on ubuntu is patched to use sudo. for not too long there has been native support for sudo in kdesu, not sure if thats a compile time flag or an option though12:48
webbenalek: oh12:48
alekwroc!12:48
alekI havent X12:48
alekubuntu-server12:48
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phanterhello there. I installed LVM2 yesterday and all seemed well, but when I check the sizes then vgdisplay says it is 104 gig, and after mounting df says id is 49 gig. Why is there that huge differnce12:48
nothlitalek, update-rc.d ?12:48
alekYES12:48
webbenalek: yeah update-rc.d is what you want12:48
alekthis is what I wanted to know:] 12:49
drowstarkaflan: meaning: i dont think thats possible using a standard ubuntu installation12:49
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salimhello?12:49
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mirakfor an install over lvm do I need a server iso or a desktop iso ?12:49
mirakfor an install over lvm do I need a server iso or a desktop iso ?12:49
eyequeuealek, man update-rc.d, you want to remove the start links (you can rm the stop links next week, heh)12:49
mirakmy system is already partitioned12:49
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siouxhow can I mount to my edgy a fat disk?12:49
phantermirak: can do both12:49
Vorbotedom_f: that's strange.... Try changing the UUID for the device and check at next reboot.12:50
eyequeuealek, ls -lrt /etc/init.d/ | tail12:50
noelferreirawhat is the best xgl cobination for edgy?12:50
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kaflandrowstar: but why in manual developers write about sudo passwd root and /etc/sudoers commands?12:50
eyequeuealek, yours is probably last of the 1012:50
noelferreiraberyl , compiz?12:50
mirakphanter: so with the live cd I can install on my already LVM partitioned hard drive ?12:50
phanternoelferreira: I was very happy with beryl12:50
noelferreirawas?12:50
noelferreiranot anymore?12:50
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dom_fThanks Vorbote.  WIll do but not now as I've something running I don't want to stop.12:50
phantermirak: you should be able to. I never tried but the options are in the setup12:51
drowstarkaflan: hum, not sure. give me a second, I'll try to get up to speed on sudoers real quick :)12:51
mirakphanter: thank you, my bandwith is not very fast12:51
kaflandrowstar: couse i will wait :) thx for helping12:51
mirakphanter: my problem is I can't boot 2.6.17-1012:51
phantermirak: do you have experience with lvm?12:51
mirakit fails12:51
siouxwhich tool I have to use to mount fat disk?12:51
kevbCan anyone guide me through installing vino from edgy-proposed?12:52
mirakphanter: yes, my partition is already lvm12:52
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phantermirak: is you base system installed on a lvm partition?12:52
mamzers555sioux; you have to do it in the terminal12:52
siouxmamzers dapper had a tool in gome!12:52
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noelferreirapeople anyone with rt61 wireless driver working on edgy?12:52
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cyziehwo do i share printer across windows/linux network?12:52
phantermirak: I have a huge difference between my vgdisplay disk sice (100gig) and my df disk size (49gig). Do you know how this is possible?12:53
eyequeuekevb, if you have the .deb, sudo dpkg -i vino*.deb12:53
kevbeyequeue: I don't have the .deb, i don't know how to get it : )12:53
mamzers555sioux; i think it is gone in edgy12:54
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eyequeuekevb, is -proposed in sources.list?12:54
chadi have a Problem using Physical (raw) disk - Linux host - XP Guest ... im getting a bluescreen, when trying to start winxp.. i suspect it is a hd driver issue..  in vmware it says the disk is IDE ..but the disk is really a sata.. i get as far as the "winxo is starting up, logo"12:54
phantermirak: did you by accident see this website already (has lot of info, but is not always very clear)? http://deb.riseup.net/storage/lvm2/12:54
mirakphanter: no.12:54
siouxmammers it is but do you remember the mane of that package?12:54
mirakphanter: in fact yes.12:54
kevbeyequeue: I added proposed to the end of "... edgy main restricted..."12:54
eyequeuekevb, i have not used -proposed myself, but if so, i would imagine you would just sudo apt-get install vino12:54
kevbeyequeue: in sources.list12:54
mirakphanter: maybe you didn't included all the logical volumes you created12:54
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phantermirak: then it should not show up like that in vgdisplay (i think)... but not sure12:55
eyequeuekevb, wait, i think you have an error in syntax there, let me clarify12:55
kevbeyequeue: when i did apt-get update it failed on proposed, i'm not sure it exists12:55
eyequeuekevb, okay, cool, error confirmed :)12:55
kevbeyequeue: "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse proposed"12:55
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eyequeuekevb, revert to your former sources.list, you had an "edgy main..." line, right?12:56
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kevbeyequeue: yeah12:56
eyequeuekevb, take off proposed, then sudo apt-get update, to confirm the file is good at that point12:56
phanteroke, i see. lvm tells me that: "Alloc PE / Size       12401 / 48.44 GB", but I did not yet use any of the space. How is that possible?12:56
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kevbeyequeue: it is, it actually failed on proposed12:56
kevbeyequeue: Unable to find expected entry  proposed/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file12:57
eyequeuekevb, then *duplicate* that entire line, and turn "edgy" into "edgy-proposed"12:57
kevbeyequeue: ahhhhh : )12:57
webbenI asked this earlier, so please excuse the repeat, but has anyone tried running Ubuntu in Parallels?12:57
mirakphanter: hum my lvm tools whee uninstalled ...12:57
eyequeuekevb, the original line should *not* have proposed at the end, just so i'm clear about that12:57
kevbeyequeue: yup, kk, testing12:58
eyequeuekevb, sudo apt-get update, to confirm the file is good at that point12:58
mamzers555sioux; no, btw, you can write the name of somebody if you write the first 2 letters and then press tab (in xchat)12:58
phantermirak: try the command: vgscan12:58
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maxb_at_workGaaah! Finally figured it out. I had (deliberately) retained the dapper sources in /etc/apt/sources.list. That was the source of the dist-upgrade malfunction.12:58
kevbeyequeue: It's good and your a hero : ) Let me see if I can install vino now12:58
mamzers555sioux; in my case write "mam" and press tab12:58
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drowstarkaflan: alright: I am not a sudo expert, but from what I have gathered (and I have not found anything indicating the contrary) that is really and truely not possible :) since you need to have the root account enabled anyway you can use the "su" command to get root priviledges in a terminal. I dont think you can use kdesu for that though. could you explain where you found "but why in manual developers write about sudo passwd root and12:59
drowstar/etc/sudoers commands" as you wrote earlier?12:59
wouarenhi, i have a prob, i want a double access in /var/www, i added user y to group x wich is the group of /var/www, i want y to be able to create folders in /var/www but withouth changing name etc of current ones. so i made chmod 775 /var/www -R then chmod 755 /Var/www/protectedfolder -R. BUT PROBLEM : user y cna change the name of "protected folders" (but cant change files in them). What can i do to change this ? Thank you12:59
dade`someone using a macbook ?12:59
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drowstarsorry to ask again guys, but I haven't been able to solve this problem with google: I have installed ubuntu-desktop on a fresh _K_ubuntu edgy installation and gtk2-themes don't work (I get solid grey squares instead of buttons for example). any hints?12:59
kaflanhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo01:00
kevbeyequeue: oh no, it says vino is at newest version01:00
mirakphanter: show me vgdisplay and df -h01:00
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jdawsonFresh egdy install, seem to be having difficuilty getting movie player or mplayer to play mpg files, (or wav? if supported) any suggested alternative software?01:00
wouarenkaflan: what was that link for ?01:00
drowstarkaflan: ah, cool, never seen that before :) does that not work?01:00
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kevbeyequeue: This bug (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/65795) seems to say it is updated (fixed) in proposed.01:01
mirakphanter:    12401 / 48.44 GB   PE are the lvm units.01:01
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mirakone PE=4meg most of the time01:01
kaflanwork only for console, su and sudo, but not for kdesu01:01
phantermirak: where can I copy paste the info to?01:01
drowstarkaflan: ah, I see...01:01
mirakpastebin01:01
mirak /topic01:01
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mirakhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/01:02
phantermirak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29710/01:02
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jdawsonmplayer when playing an mpg file is telling me "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device" any suggestions? ty01:02
wouarenhi, i have a prob, i want a double access in /var/www, i added user y to group x wich is the group of /var/www, i want y to be able to create folders in /var/www but withouth changing name etc of current ones. so i made chmod 775 /var/www -R then chmod 755 /Var/www/protectedfolder -R. BUT PROBLEM : user y can change the name of "protected folders" (but cant change files in them). What can i do to change this ? Thank you No one for01:03
wouarenthat ? Its a easy problem i guess01:03
mirakphanter:  patriiiiiiiiiiick !!01:03
phantermirak: right you are01:03
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mirak28.   Alloc PE / Size       12401 / 48.44 GB01:03
mirak29.   Free  PE / Size       14660 / 57.27 GB01:03
kevbhas anyone else managed to update/fix vino (Remote Desktop) in edgy yet?01:04
phantermirak: what does it mean and what can I do01:04
prism-useri hate you Hobbsee!  Kicking me out because of my little brother01:04
prism-userbye01:04
miraklike I said you didn't used all your lvm extents for your logical partition01:04
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Hobbseehah01:04
Hobbseelike he had a legitimate purpose to be where he was anyway01:05
phantermirak: oke, but how do I add it then (because i thought I had)01:05
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gnomefreaknot any more01:05
Hobbseegnomefreak: heh01:05
mirakphanter: /dev/mapper/vg-datalvm  what is the file system of this partition ?01:05
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Hobbseegnomefreak: i wasnt goign to do that in here.  maybe let them back after a couple of days.01:05
gnomefreakhe needs not bring drama in here for any reason01:05
mirakphanter: you must add size to this logical volume, then growth the filesystem to fit the new volume size.01:06
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Hobbseegnomefreak: true01:06
phantermirak: i do not get it, please wait. how do I add the logical volume then?01:06
mirakphanter: look the doc or an howto, I don't remember the commands01:06
mneptonHobbsee: i hate you for reasons entirely related to IRC. mostly having to do with Lego and bourbon.01:06
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mnepton*unrelated01:06
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mirakphanter: should read docs about how lvm works01:06
richeehpnadig_: are u able to login to ur server, its too slow01:06
drowstarkaflan: hm, my experiments dont really get me anywhere :) sorry, I dont think theres a way01:06
richeehpnadig_: are u facing the same problem?01:07
Hobbseemnepton: hehe.  oh good :P01:07
jason_Before I ask my question here Is there a ubuntu-specific apache channel?01:07
kaflandrowstar: np, but, thx for helping.01:07
mneptonHobbsee: *muah*01:07
SupremacyGnuI have a problem with my updatemanager. What do I do when I have a broken package which synaptic can't repair or remove? the package name is Freepats01:08
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mirakphanter: you don't had a logical volume. you just need to extend the size of your /dev/mapper/vg-datalvm volume. until you get 0 PE free. then after that you must increase your file system size that is inside this partition.01:08
richeeSupremacyGnu: apt-get -f install01:08
kevbAnyone know anything about vino (Remote Desktop) problem in edgy?01:08
SupremacyGnurichee, ah, thanks. Seems to work01:09
richeeSupremacyGnu: great!!01:09
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SupremacyGnurichee, nope. that didn't work either01:12
jason_I need to enable the DELETE method on apache, Reading the docs on /httpd.apache.org, I see that 'Limit' Directive is probably what Im looking for, But I can not find in the config files where this directive is at all. If I need to just add it, I need to know what File exactly It should be added to. apache2.conf, httpd.conf, envvars, or maybe something in the conf.d subdir?01:12
kevbCan't believe so few people are concerned about the vino issue01:12
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richeeSupremacyGnu: can't u plzz paste the output01:13
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richeeSupremacyGnu: *can01:13
SupremacyGnurichee, yes... but is there anyway to change the terminal language to english? because some of this is swedish01:13
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richeeSupremacyGnu: hmmm, no idea01:14
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wouarenhi, i have a prob, i want a double access in /var/www, i added user y to group x wich is the group of /var/www, i want y to be able to create folders in /var/www but withouth changing name etc of current ones. so i made chmod 775 /var/www -R then chmod 755 /Var/www/protectedfolder -R. BUT PROBLEM : user y can change the name of "protected folders" (but cant change files in them). What can i do to change this ? Thank you No one for01:14
wouarenthat ? Its a easy problem i guess01:14
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SupremacyGnurichee, i'll just post it. Ask if there's something you want me to translate :) 1 sec01:15
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[ANF] MasterNinjaits the stupid again01:15
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[ANF] MasterNinjaand i have question01:15
[ANF] MasterNinjai need to enable execution rights for all acounts including root for a folder called /home/masterninja/install-drivers01:15
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jonah1980hi guys, i just installed swiftfox which is awesome but i wanted to use it as my default browser on preffered applications, but when i do click on a link in evolution etc the browser comes up but not the link, can anyone help me out please?01:16
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[ANF] MasterNinjawhats the terminal command for this?01:16
SupremacyGnurichee, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29712/01:16
KannixHi all01:16
kevb[ANF] MasterNinja: sudo chmod a+x /home/masterninja/install-drivers01:16
SwoOpcan i boot livecd 6.10 on init 3?01:16
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[ANF] MasterNinjathx alot01:16
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richeeSupremacyGnu: busy with some issue01:16
kevb[ANF] MasterNinja: I think01:16
richeeSupremacyGnu: waito01:16
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alekhow can I check run programs (services etc) ?01:16
KannixCan someone tell me, where the bootsplah screens are defined in 6.10? I have problems and I want to check out, what the graphics are supposed to look like.01:17
SupremacyGnurichee, ok01:17
jamesstansell!vpnc01:17
kevbAnyone know anything about vino (Remote Desktop) problem in edgy?01:17
ubotuvpnc: Cisco-compatible VPN client. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.3+SVN20051028-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 52 kB, installed size 220 kB01:17
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richeeSupremacyGnu: do u have any other apt instance open01:18
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SupremacyGnurichee, nope..01:18
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richeeSupremacyGnu: hmmm...welll do a ps aux | grep apt01:18
kevbanyone know how to install a package from source from (i think) the ubuntu svn??01:18
WinballI'm on the newest edgy now. How can I get back to dapper? :S01:19
richeeSupremacyGnu: and see if anything is running then kill it01:19
[ANF] MasterNinjano idea01:19
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[ANF] MasterNinjaedgy is better though01:19
phantermy lvm says that /dev/hdc1 is created, but it does not show up in /dev/evms/ . How is tht possible?01:19
SupremacyGnurichee, tobbe    29133  0.0  0.0   2808   760 pts/2    R+   13:19   0:00 grep apt01:19
jamesstansellkevb: do you mean svn or the ubuntu source repositories?01:19
jason_Winball: anly way i know how to do that is, save my /home and just toss in a dapper cd and reinstalll01:20
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kevbjamesstansell: I'm not sure, there is a bug fix somewhere for this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/6579501:20
richeeSupremacyGnu: freepats_20060219-1_all.deb is this installed in the system01:20
felixfoertschHi all! Is there a terminal command which allows me to hide the terminal window while starting a command?01:20
kevbjamesstansell: I added edgy-proposed and I can't find it in there01:20
richeeSupremacyGnu: dpkg -l | grep freepats01:21
klm-how can I check my ethernet card's address in ubuntu?01:21
Bokehip address or mac address?01:21
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cantonahow to set proxy on gaim2.0?01:21
SupremacyGnurichee,  no I don't think that's installed.. but Synaptic want to install it01:21
kevbjamesstansell: Any ideas?01:21
klm-the address that should look like this: 00-AA-00-61-91-6D01:21
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jamesstansellkevb: maybe not on the mirrors yet?01:22
richeeSupremacyGnu: try this sudo apt-get remove --purge freepats01:22
kevbjamesstansell: I tried the main archive.ubuntu.org01:22
richeeSupremacyGnu: or whatever u gave to install it01:22
jason_klm-: type ifconfig in a terminal01:22
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klm-jason_: thanks!01:23
kevbjamesstansell: I'm fairly sure i could edit the source myself, do you know of a guide that would show me how to uninstall a package then download and install from source (to modify it before hand)?01:23
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jonah1980hi can anyone help me out with setting swiftfox as the default browser please?01:25
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SupremacyGnurichee, hmm, I think I installed this when trying to install midi support with easyubuntu01:26
jamesstansellkevb: there are guides around for using apt-get source to download a source package, compile and install01:26
jason_kevb: something like apt-get build-dep package-name and apt-get --build source package-name, may be the commands your looking for.01:26
jk_workMy Atheros wireless connections are much more jerky with Edgy01:27
SupremacyGnurichee, and it seems as if freepats is depending on the package timidity which I can't remove either01:27
richeeSupremacyGnu: now does it work, that why I told u to do a ps aux | grep apt01:27
jk_workDid they change drivers?01:27
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jk_workCan I change back?01:27
SupremacyGnurichee, nope. That didn't work01:27
jamesstansellkevb: but I'm not sure of an easy way like that when you need to update the source first01:27
richeeSupremacyGnu: try a apt-get remove --purge timidity01:27
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SupremacyGnurichee, hmm.. maybe now. one sec01:28
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Guest26240hey all01:28
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cypherhay all01:28
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cypherany one tried edge01:28
SupremacyGnurichee, yes, that worked! big thanks01:28
JoelMaxhow change the locales?01:28
jatt(edgy)01:28
gnomefreakcypher: you mean edgy?01:28
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gnomefreakcypher: and yes01:29
richeeSupremacyGnu: which one apt-get remove --purge timidity01:29
richeeSupremacyGnu: u mean this....well welcome :)01:29
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SupremacyGnurichee, yes. apt-get remove --purge timidity worked01:30
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richeeSupremacyGnu: great! enjoy!01:30
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SupremacyGnurichee, thanks once again!01:30
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richeeSupremacyGnu: ur welcome dude :)01:30
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gnomefreakcypher: please keep it in the channel and yes people are using it01:31
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kaflani have ATI x1300 and Edgy, for installing drivers, better for me go to ati.com or use packet manager?01:32
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cyphergenomefreak: yes edgy01:32
xroachis here anyone who could help?01:32
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bigusdickusyes01:33
R2D3Hello everyone. I'm new in Linux (may years on Windows). I have installed Ubuntu 64bits in a new DELL computer. Almost everything is working now, but I can find a flash pluging for Ubuntu. Can anyone help me?01:33
cypherwhat happend to the pakages01:33
bigusdickusR2D3, only works with 32 bits01:33
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R2D3About the ATI x1300. I just installed01:33
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R2D3If yo need help let me know.01:33
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cyphernot alot as breazy01:33
pukekowhats the version of netconfig called in dapper ?01:33
jason_kaflan: speaking strictly from an Nvidia perspective, because I dont have any ati cards, I'd suggest only installing drivers through apt. but that may be different for ati.01:34
kaflanjason_: how i can find ati drivers in apt?01:34
lim3Hello all. I installed 6.10. My only problem is that in firefox the font is blurred. This is only in firefox. All other applications are OK. Anyone a idea?01:34
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cyphergnome freak: what happend to the k3b01:34
kaflanjason_: i try to use adept but its bad tool :(01:34
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jason_kaflan: do you have the universe,etc. repositories all enabled?01:35
kaflanjason_: no, i do nothing after default install with it01:35
bigusdickuslim3, with opera the fonts look fine. use opera01:35
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cyphergnomefreak: distrowatch seys it has it all but when i vmware_ed it not that much01:35
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jason_kafflan: k one sec getting a url01:35
lim3bigusdickus: I will try Opera then. Did you have the same problem?01:36
gnomefreakcypher: k3b is in kde i dont know anything about distrowatch i use official places01:36
bigusdickuslim3, no01:36
bigusdickuslim3, I only know with opera the fonts look fine01:36
cyphergnomefreak:such as01:36
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cyphergnomefreak: in breezy it was there01:37
pukekowhats the command for detecting / configing nics ?01:37
lim3bigusdickus: OK, thanks.01:37
cypherso01:37
gnomefreakcypher: what are you talking about? k3b is still in kde. distrowatch is not a place i use or go to we have the packages we use no need for distrowatch01:37
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bigusdickuspuke: ifconfig01:38
jason_kaflan: hm well maybe not, it seems even on the ubuntuguide website they suggest using something else.01:38
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jason_kaflan: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28ATI.2901:38
cyphergnomefreak: distrowatch is agood place for learning about new distros01:38
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kaflanjason_: a lot of thx, going to read this manual01:39
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cyphergnomefreak: good place for info --> i hope so01:39
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gnomefreakcypher: than use it but i dont trust them01:39
cyphergnomefreak: why ?????????????????/01:39
siouxgparted can mount hard disk01:39
jamesstansellkevb: 2.16.0-0ubuntu2.1 doesn't show up on the published page for vino: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vino/01:39
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protocol1how do you guys like edgy compared to dapper?01:40
protocol1good?01:40
bigusdickusprotocol1, compare what exactly01:40
kevbjamesstansell: I have the source package and I made the change (i think)01:40
bigusdickusprotocol1, yes is good.01:40
protocol1gui01:40
gnomefreakcypher: this is not the place for chat about distrowatch.01:40
bigusdickusgui is good too01:40
protocol1browsers01:40
bigusdickusbrowsers are very good and nice too01:40
kevbjamesstansell: Do I just do the usual ./configure; make; checkinstall?01:40
cypherprotocol : dapper is spicial01:41
cypheris french01:41
pukekobigus: i have 2 nics and it can only see one - however it did load the modules - for both - but ifconfig eth1 x.x.x.x up - gives no such device01:41
cypher3 years of warrenty01:41
cypheri heared01:41
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cypherfree updates01:41
protocol1I know dapper is LTS01:41
bigusdickuspuke: dmesg shows the card as detected if you reboot?01:41
cypheryeah did u read the book01:41
jamesstansellkevb: to make a dpkg file there are command like make-dpkg, but I'm not really familiar with them.01:41
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jason_pukeko: what hjeppens when you run ifconfig with no arguments?01:42
jamesstansellkevb: I guess you could try ./configure and make to just see if the patch works for you01:42
pukekodmesg has both01:42
cyphergnomefreak: thank u for ur time and good bye -->:)01:42
lchhey all, can I install ubuntu from the stat01:42
kevbjamesstansell: Ok, ty01:42
cypherbye all01:43
cypherabout now01:43
lchhey all, can I install ubuntu from the standard desktop image in text mode?01:43
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bigusdickuslch, what?01:43
jamesstansellkevb: maybe someone from the MOTU or ubuntu Hug group could help you with creating a dpkg?01:43
pukekojason: just lo and eth001:43
mike_Can anyone help me with my VMware-server install?01:43
kevbjamesstansell: Not familiar with those, can you point me in the right direction01:43
abzemike i found i great guide yestarday, try google :P01:43
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dcypherdmike_01:44
mike_My VMware install stops with "Unable to get the access rights of source file "./vmware-vix/bin"."01:44
R2D3How can I install Flash plugin on Ubunut 64bit?01:44
dcypherdwhats the problem01:44
pukekoi have tried a couple of cards - started with two the "same" same prob01:44
mike_R2D3: No, i've 38601:44
bigusdickuspuke: maybe an interrupt conflict? you see one in /proc/interrupts?01:44
jamesstansellkevb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU01:44
lchor can I change the xorg.conf before the installer tries to load the graphical console? because this hangs the system, seems to be a problem on nearly all Dell Optiplex systems01:44
snikkerhow can i join the binary files splitted with the split command?01:44
jason_R2D3: last time I tried flash on 64bit, Macromedia had no support for 64bit on linux. I had to use a 32bit chroot01:44
bigusdickussnikker, with cat01:45
alekin subversion, one repository can contains more than one projects? or i should have one repository for one projekt?01:45
alekproject*01:45
dcypherdhave you tried it as sudo01:45
R2D3Jason_: did it work for you?01:45
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lchbigusdickus, I know there is a text based installer on the alternate install cd, but I want to know if I can do that with the standard install cd, too01:45
mike_yes tryed it as sudo and sudo su01:45
jamesstansellkevb: and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay01:45
jason_R2D3: with the 32bit chroot yes it worked, but thats a lot fo work just for one thing.01:45
kevbjamesstansell: Cheers01:45
snikkerbigusdickus: but cat is not only for text files?01:45
dcypherdand you have already installed it01:46
pukekoonly one in /proc/interrupts - bios has them at 10 and 1101:46
bigusdickussnikker, the cat documentation doesn't say such thing01:46
mike_Following guide at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=VMware+howto01:46
jason_R2D3: there are a lot of guides on the ubuntuforums on how to setup a 32bit environment01:46
R2D3Jason_: Do you know where can I find instructions to install the Flash plug-in on 6401:46
kevbjamesstansell: This is weird, it's missing dependecys when i ./configure, yet its install as a binary... : S01:47
mike_sudo /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl    but installation stops with Unable to get the access rights of source file "./vmware-vix/bin".01:47
R2D3jason_: I have 32bit environment already01:47
bigusdickusR2D3, one solution is to install it in a chroot, search in the ubuntu wiki for flash01:47
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snikkerbigusdickus: ah ok, thanks for help :)01:47
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bigusdickusR2D3, if you have 32 bits already just install flashplugin-nonfree01:47
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jason_R2D3: just install firefox and the flash plugin from within the chroot, and then run it from there.01:48
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R2D3Jason_: When I tried to get flash I get this message:01:49
R2D3Reading package lists... Done01:49
R2D3Building dependency tree01:49
R2D3Reading state information... Done01:49
R2D3Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:49
R2D3This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or01:49
R2D3is only available from another source01:49
R2D3E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate01:49
dcypherdwell and it cant be a permissions problem cuz sudo would've fixed that01:49
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dcypherdhave you tried a reinstalll01:49
bigusdickusR2D3, you have just the wrong repositories in your sources.list01:49
jamesstansellkevb: I understand missing dependencies but I'm not sure what you meant about the install as a binary01:49
dcypherdi dunno01:50
bigusdickusR2D3, you need the MULTIVERSE REPOSITORIES!01:50
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R2D3bigusdickus: Thank you. I'll check it now.01:50
jason_R2D3: you will need to enable the correct repositories. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Repositories01:50
dcypherdR2D3: just download automatix01:51
kevbjamesstansell: well vino is installed already as part of ubuntu, as a binary. So surely it should have all of it's deps installed already..01:51
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bigusdickusdcypherd, automatix is a very bad idea01:51
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dcypherdhaha01:51
jason_R2D3: Also (I could be wrong) but I think the chroot environment had its own sources.list01:51
jamesstansellkevb: not usually the parts needed to recompile it01:51
dcypherdfor noobs its fine01:51
jason_maybe not its been a while01:51
bigusdickusdcypherd, maybe for noobs but not for your computer01:51
bigusdickusdcypherd, automatix uses --force-yes all over the place, is just crap01:52
jamesstansellkevb: I'd recommend uninstalling the ubuntu vino package before trying to compile the patch.  Less likelihood of them interfering with each other01:52
dcypherdhaha so you would rather him hack his soucres.list himself01:52
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kevbjamesstansell: kk, will do01:52
R2D3jason -  bigusdickus: I'm checking. I will let you know what the problems was if I can install the Flash player in my 64bit system01:52
bigusdickusdcypherd, yes. And changing a configuration file is no "hack". Is trivial.01:53
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lorizzohello01:53
bigusdickusR2D3, ok, good look!01:53
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bigusdickusI mean luck :)01:53
kevbjamesstansell: oh crap, it wants to uninstall ubuntu-dektop when i do apt-get remove vino01:53
kevbjamesstansell: that can't be good?01:53
bigusdickuskevb, no problem01:53
bigusdickuskevb, you can uninstall ubuntu-desktop01:53
jamesstansellkevb: something like apt-get -d source vino should download the missing dependencies. Once you know what they are you can install them01:53
kevbah ok thnx01:53
dcypherdsorry i forgot about the purists01:54
jason_dcypherd: I would rather anyone learn how to modify a plain-text file and take the risk of making errors, and learn the importance of making backups, than having them cluelessly use software that messes up their machine.01:54
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dcypherdyeah yeah i see your point01:54
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hypehi there01:54
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jamesstansellkevb: it won't hurt to remove ubuntu-desktop, but you'll want to reinstall it when everything is working again, so it will be there when you upgrade to feisty01:54
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rc-1 is there an irc command to query channels (based on popularity etc?)01:55
bigusdickusrc-1, in x-chat: Window->Channel List01:55
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bigusdickusrc-1, no popularity contest among irc channels though01:56
torthoanyone who knows an easy way to apply a patch to the kernel (i have some diff and i'm a newbie to this)01:56
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bigusdickustortho, gzip -cd ../patch-2.6.18.1.gz | patch -p101:56
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kevbjamesstansell: apt-get -d source vino just got vino again, no dependencies :S01:57
torthobigusdickus: is this how i can apply the diff text to my kernel?01:57
jamesstansellkevb: I must have been wrong about it01:58
jason_So does anyone know where in the apache2 config files I can enable the DELETE method? In the ubuntu apache package it is disabled by default and I cant find where to enable it.01:58
kevbjamesstansell: Ah, i think it's -b switch01:58
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kevbjamesstansell: for "build-dependencies"01:58
bigusdickustortho, yes if your diff is compressed and you have it stored in one directory above the directory with your sources01:58
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hypehow can i be sure of the graphic chipset of a pc? ( a friend of mineis installing Beryl but hedoenst know what graphic card he has)01:58
kevbjamesstansell: although it failed to get them : )01:59
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jason_hype: use lspci01:59
bigusdickustortho, if you have a non-compressed patch you don't need the gzip part and the pipe01:59
torthobigusdickus: and then i have to make some config and compile a new kernel?01:59
jamesstansellkevb: did it at least list them?01:59
hypejason_ ,here is the output01:59
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hypeVGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)01:59
jason_dont paste it here01:59
hypehow cani know if its i910 or anything else?01:59
hypesorry01:59
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bigusdickustortho, you must be sure first the patch applies cleanly without rejects, you can do a make oldconfig and compile the new kernel01:59
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jason_where do we paste output, i forget the channel name02:00
johnemai'm searching a sources.list with a lot of repository for Ubuntu Edgy (like a Trevino's sources.list)---- the google search has no important results02:00
kevbjamesstansell: Yeah, it listed them. Do I need to get them all as source?02:00
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torthobigusdickus: what i want to do is to add the patches for the p990i from this bug.. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/6246902:00
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hypejason_ http://www.rafb.net/paste/02:00
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jason_ah ok02:01
jamesstansellkevb: you probably don't need their source - just a regular install of them should do02:01
hypeany one can help me determine if my buddy is using i915 or i810?02:01
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jason_hype: I just see an empty form though02:01
jason_oh recent pastes02:02
bigusdickustortho, be advised those patches are for the vanilla kernel, so it could be it doesn't applies cleanly with patch but i see the patch is small enough you can merge it if needed02:02
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hypejason_ , lol, i just pasted the revelent part of lspci from my mate02:02
torthobigusdickus: thanks, will try to break something :-)02:02
johnemado you have a sources.list with a lot of repository for Ubuntu Edgy (like a Trevino's sources.list) ??02:02
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MetaMorfoziShow can i idnetify my ram's speed?02:03
hypejason_ http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ZotmYt39.html , ifyou want (one line tho)02:03
alekhow to copy my files to svnrepository svn add or svn import?:(02:03
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hypealek , you've setup your onw repo? :)02:03
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miranda82hi people02:03
jason_hype: well looks like you found it then02:03
_jordihi02:03
alekhype: jest02:03
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alekwr02:04
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kevuis rc.local executed after gnome is loaded?02:04
miranda82is there any command to check what speed is actually working my cpu?02:04
alekhype: yes02:04
alekIve got repo in /var/www/framework and I want to copy files from /home/alek/framework to my repository02:04
hypejason_ , the thing is: i need to enagle 3D on his pc: but most "how to" or done for i815 or i910, but i cant find which one hes using ;s02:04
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ajopaulmiranda82: cat /proc/cpuinfo02:05
miranda82ajopaul, let me see! thx :)02:05
jamesstansellhype: the Xorg logfile should have it02:05
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miranda82ajopaul, but, it's not changing..02:05
jason_hype: Looks like thats the i810, but dont come hunt me down if im wrong02:06
miranda82ajopaul, i mean, i want to see what speed is he using now, not what he's capable02:06
binary_goofyhi room! i need to give cdrom mount rights to user. can somebody pls help me going about this??02:06
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miranda82capable? do u say that in english?02:06
hypejason_ , i'd like to be sure :)02:06
dob1hi02:06
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ajopaulhmm! dono if dude changes speed everytime02:07
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dob1are there any option to pass at boot for install ubuntu on sata disk?  i have problem to boot the installation cd02:07
hypebinary_goofy , here is my line in fstab: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       002:07
jamesstansellhype: from my Xorg.0.log file: (II) I810: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100,02:07
jamesstansell        i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G, E7221 (i915),02:07
jamesstansell        915GM, 945G, 945GM02:07
jamesstansell(02:07
hypeho cheers jamesstansell , will try that02:07
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jamesstansellI have the 82865G02:08
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cyziehow do i share my printer over the network using samba?02:08
hypejamesstansell , did you determine that from Worg log?02:08
fnfHi, is there anyone here owning an Acer notebook ?. I can't seem to get my battery info.02:08
hype(i do nt see any line about  82865G in your Xorg.log output o0)02:09
gnufiedi am unable to install msttcorefotns package..i remember i used to isnert a line to refer in /etc/apt/source.lst to refer that repo02:09
jamesstansellhype: although when I enable 3D (on dapper) some programs will crash the whole system02:09
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hypeok :/02:09
jamesstansellhype: I think the 865G in the output refers to my card02:09
miranda82is there any command to check what speed is actually working my cpu?02:09
binary_goofyhype: mine reads - /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   auto ro,auto,user,exec     0       002:09
gnufiedmstffcorefonts fails to install because its there in some ohter repo02:09
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binary_goofywat do i need to change here?02:09
hypeonly difference i see is exec02:10
bigusdickusmiranda82, cat /proc/cpuinfo02:10
binary_goofyhype: my drive is a dvd-burner02:10
hypeme too :(02:10
miranda82bigusdickus, that does not say the actual speed, but the top speed he's able..02:10
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binary_goofyhype: so wit udf, iso9660 under type, does it allow u to load all types of cds, dvds?02:11
bigusdickusmiranda82, install the CPU Frequency Monitory GNOME Applet then.02:11
miranda82bigusdickus, i already have it, but it is not real..02:12
miranda82bigusdickus, or 1,6 or 2.802:12
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fnfmiranda82: The CPU always run at full speed, unless you did some sort of scaling, how did you know it wasn't real ?02:13
scheuribigusdickus: what a nickname...02:13
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hypebinary_goofy , nope, i've had issues with udf birnt dvds recnetly02:13
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hypei didnt look to much to fix it tho02:13
kevbjamesstansell: I found the command dpkg-buildpackage but something odd happened... it tried to apply the patch in question (the one from the launchpad bug thread)... it couldn't do it cos i'd already changed the code :S02:13
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miranda82fnf, cuz i can't be working at 1,6 while i'm not doing anything02:13
bigusdickuswhat do you mean with "not real" do you ant more accurate numbers?02:13
jamesstansellhype: yikes :)02:14
miranda82bigusdickus, yeah, more acurate02:14
fnfmiranda82: You mean the average load ?02:14
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miranda82fnf, yeah probably02:14
hype^^02:14
jamesstansellkevb: I guess undo your changes?02:14
binary_goofyhype: thanks pal. but wat i specifically need is how to give rights to user to mount from command line using mount.02:14
fnfmiranda82: 1.6 MHz/GHz ?02:14
kevbjamesstansell: Doing that now, just wondering where the path came from!! : )02:14
kevbjamesstansell: patch*02:15
TooTallJonesSo I just bought this AGP 512MB geforce 7600 GS.  But 3D acceleration isn't working properly in windows or my linux OS.  Also my BIOS doesn't have the selection for 512MB ram on a graphics card.  Is this probably because my BIOS is out of date? Why 3D won't work that is02:15
hypebinary_goofy , the "user" line should have done it :(02:15
hypeor mayben try "users"02:15
bigusdickusmiranda82, do this, try with xfce4-cpu-freq-plugin and with the  CPU Frequency Monitor GNOME Applet, if their output is similar, probably you are wrong.02:15
hypewith a "s"02:15
hype:p02:15
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Cimihi02:15
binary_goofyhype: nah. wen i try to run mount as user, gives me an error saying only root can mount02:15
hypeyou want any other user to mount it? or just your user?02:16
miranda82bigusdickus, i already have that applet02:16
Cimii need a french!!!02:16
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bigusdickusmiranda82, so?02:16
hypeho02:16
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Cimianyone is french here?02:16
miranda82bigusdickus, nah, u're right02:16
hypebinary_goofy .. you have to be root to mount a device02:16
hypeCimi , non02:16
hype:)02:16
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infidelCimi, french yuck02:16
Cimii need translation of "murrine configurator"02:16
Cimiand02:16
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CimiConfigure themes based on the murrine engine02:16
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jamesstansellkevb: sometimes there will be different patches with the same name.  Did you find the 2.1 source package?02:17
binary_goofyhype: but can't i change dat. i just need to give user rights to mount cdrom only02:17
hypemurrine...is a themme , no?02:17
TooTallJonesAlso after xserver-xorg reconfig my computer is still only calling the geforce card an Nvidia default card02:17
livingdaylighttar xvf tar.gz?02:17
coz_Cimi, no way to google the translations??02:17
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Cimihype, yes i'm the creator02:17
infidelhow do i make my terminal fonts color?02:17
hypeCimi, au fait , #ubuntu-fr02:17
kevbjamesstansell: The source is just from the main source repository02:17
Cimicoz_, i will take a look02:17
hypeho, :)02:17
livingdaylightis it tar xvf photalbum.tar.gz ?02:17
infidel!terminal02:17
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands02:17
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Rookie!beryl02:17
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.02:17
bigusdickustar xvzf02:17
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kevbjamesstansell: The patch looks correct, i'll give it a go02:18
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hypeCimi Configure themes based on the murrine engine --> Configurez les thmes bas sur le moteur Murrine02:18
kevbjamesstansell: I wouldn't have thought that they would have a different package in source & binary02:18
hypebass*02:18
jdawsonWhere did "run as different user" go to on edgy?02:18
jamesstansellkevb: the repository can contain multiple versions, but yeah, I normally wouldn02:18
constrictorjdawson: applications -> system tools02:19
binary_goofyhype: can't i give user mount rights den?02:19
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jamesstansellkevb: wouldn't expect a source version in the enduser repository without a binary version there too02:19
jdawsonconstrictor: I don't have an applications - > system tools02:19
constrictorjdawson: kubuntu or ubuntu02:19
constrictor?02:19
jdawsonubuntu02:20
jdawsonUbuntu 6.1002:20
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constrictorjdawson: do you have alacarte installed02:20
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livingdaylightcan someone help me with a command?02:20
MetaMorfoziShow can i identify my ram's speed?02:20
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coz_constrictor, alacarte is default install on edgy02:20
jdawsonconstrictor: no idea, never heard of it before02:21
livingdaylighti want to send something from cdrom1 to my homefolder02:21
exaltedAny "powerpc" specific Ubuntu channel, or can i ask here?02:21
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coz_jdawson system/preferneces/ menu layout02:21
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jdawsoncoz_:  thanks02:21
constrictorjdawson -> applications -> accessories -> alacarte menu editor02:21
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kevbjamesstansell: I've installed the new package so I can test it now. Heres a harder question : ) How do I start vino from command line : )02:21
coz_constrictor, on edgy it is is system/preferences/menulayout02:21
livingdaylightis it cp /media/cdrom1/photoalbum.tar.gz /home/conrad ?02:21
rausb0livingdaylight: should work, yes02:22
binary_goofylivingdaylight: yes it is02:22
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livingdaylightthx, guys02:22
constrictori see, a bit old fashioned aren't i :-~)02:22
jamesstansellkevb: /usr/bin/vino ?02:22
rausb0livingdaylight: (if your home dir is /home/conrad)02:22
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coz_constrictor, not at all you are on dapper not edgy02:22
livingdaylightrausb0: you cheeky monkey :D02:22
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constrictorjust upgraded actually02:22
constrictor:-)02:22
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rausb0livingdaylight: remember you can use the TAB key in the shell to complete path names02:23
coz_constrictor, maybe the upgrade soes not change menu order02:23
atk_Hi. Can you suggest a light weight http server for my laptop? It would be nice if it supported php02:23
constrictortrue02:23
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kevbjamesstansell: Nope, I'm not sure how vino works, have a horrible feeling I can only do it by restarting gnome/X02:23
livingdaylightrauble: ok, i'll try that02:23
kevbjamesstansell: which I really don't want to do02:23
jamesstansellkevb: " whereis vino" says /usr/lib/vino which is a bit weird02:23
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binary_goofyhey guys can somebody please tel me how to give rights to the mount command to users?02:23
kevbjamesstansell: Yep, it's part of gnome in some way02:23
rausb0livingdaylight: so you can write "cp /me<TAB>" to get "cp /media/"02:23
jamesstansellkevb: how do you start it normally?02:24
jdawsonbinary_goofy:  http://lunapark6.com/?p=171002:24
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jdawsonbinary_goofy: I had this problem this morning. Above URI sorts it.02:24
constrictoratk_ i'm not sure if lighttpd supports PHP but you can look it up02:24
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livingdaylightrauble: yea!02:24
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exaltedAny "powerpc" specific Ubuntu channel, or can i just ask here?02:24
kevbjamesstansell: You start it in gnome, on one of the menus it says "Remote Desktop"02:24
binary_goofyjdawson: thanks. checking it now.02:24
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coz_exalted let me check for you02:24
El_Che202:24
exaltedcoz_, Thank you!02:25
livingdaylightrauble: could i have untarred it at the same time?02:25
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bigusdickuslivingdaylight, yes with tar xvzf as I told you02:25
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kevbjamesstansell: actually it seems to be running... but it's got the same problem : )02:25
jamesstansellkevb: on the quit menu there's an option to log on as another user, which starts a 2nd gnome session.  would that help?02:26
kevbARRRGGHHH02:26
livingdaylightbigusdickus: i didn't see your reply,sorry02:26
atk_constrictor: thanks02:26
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kevbjamesstansell: maybe, but I'm not at the machine, this is my problem : )02:26
Dimensionshi ... i have used a few days ago mysql with php pages but now when i do mysqltest it says mysqltest: Could not open connection 'default': 2002 Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) not ok02:26
livingdaylightbigusdickus: and my question was about copying and untarring at the same time. That would be quite a command wouldn't it?02:26
kevbjamesstansell: SSH only02:26
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jamesstansellkevb: maybe it didn't really have the newest version of the patch?02:27
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kevbjamesstansell: It seems not, I wonder if the patch changed the source so I can check02:27
TooTallJonesHow wouuld I go about a BIOS update in linux?02:27
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MattJDimensions, anything in your setup changed to cause that?02:27
MattJI'm using MySQL fine here02:28
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jason_Dimensions: one thing you could try just for the hek of it is, /etc/init.d/mysql restart02:28
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PlanarPlatypusTooTallJones, depends on the motherboard but the usual procedure I have seen involves a bootable floppy disk02:28
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coz_exalted, I can t find a specific channel for that so Ask away here some one must use poc with ubuntu02:28
CodeX__hi02:28
atk_constrictor: lighttpd seems good and has lot of features :)02:28
exaltedcoz_, alright.02:28
TooTallJonesYeah I just found the update downloads, but I don't know which motherboard I have lol02:28
CodeX__has anyone got jackd running with edgy eft?02:28
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livingdaylightbigusdickus: what is the difference between tar xvf and tar xvzf like you said ?02:28
constrictoratk_ yeah it's really helpful but i like apache because i'm used to it02:29
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kevbjamesstansell: I need a way to do dpkg-buildpackage without applying any patches now02:29
pukekohow do i detect nics ( a clean start ) - as i have deleted /etc/network/interfaces  ?02:29
TooTallJonesSo next question, how can I see what type of motherboard I have02:29
bigusdickuslivingdaylight, with z you filter the archive through gzip effectively gunzipping it before extracting the archive, (for tar.gz or tgz files)02:29
atk_constrictor: I've used apache too but I prefer smaller servers in this case. My laptop already has few heavy stuff running besides normal firefox etc.02:30
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livingdaylightbigusdickus: zo simply tar xvf is not sufficient?02:30
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constrictoratk_ yeah i can appreciate that02:31
pukekoif i type discover they are both listed - what do i do next02:31
jamesstansellkevb: dpkg-buildpackage looks like it tries to be too smart02:31
jason_TooTallJones: you could type sudo halt and then take your side panel off and have a  look at the MB, Or you could restart the computer and try to catch the ID that is usually printed at the lower right or top of the screen02:31
bigusdickuslivingdaylight, I was wrong I just tested and I see that it works without the z option too. tar is crap02:31
LabThugThis morning in my software updates (for Edgy), I had a "Distribution update" for gkrellm.  However, It's greyed out.  How do I resolve this update?02:31
exaltedI'd be really come handy right now that someone could point me an ubuntu guide on powerpc installation, since i'm having trouble to figure out how to get / where to put yaboot. Ubuntu installation claims that he can not find any newworld partition and yaboot needs a Apple_Bootstrap partition, so installation won't proceed. I've been a PC guy, and now trying to install on a friend's mac, but having lil difficulties. Any help is appreciated, thank you.02:31
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bigusdickuslivingdaylight, old versions of tar don't though02:31
coz_exaulted let me google for a how to02:32
rausb0TooTallJones: you can try "sudo dmidecode | less" but it doesnt work with all boards02:32
kevbjamesstansell: I think patches might be files in the source tree, i probably need to delete them02:32
exaltedcoz_, sure...02:32
scoohi @ll02:32
coz_exalted, what ppc are you using new world or old world?02:32
jamesstansellkevb: maybe you can remove the patch file that you don't want applied?02:32
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pukekodoes kudzu exist for ubuntu ?02:32
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jamesstansellkevb: yeah, like you just said02:33
exaltedcoz_, well this is an ibook g3, not sure if its old/new world02:33
TIger_ITpukeko: kdesu02:33
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coz_exalted, G3 is new world hold on02:33
livingdaylightbigusdickus: lol, so either.... well, its alot of letters to remember in the right order. So, if xvf works then that is one less letter to remember02:33
exaltedcoz_, :D02:33
TIger_ITpukeko: kdesu is called gkdesu02:33
bigusdickuslivingdaylight, right :)02:33
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kevbjamesstansell: I just don't know where they are. Any idea what a patch looks like?02:33
pukekoTIger: cli only02:34
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TIger_ITpukeko: just sudo02:34
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pukekojsut sudo ... ok ..??02:34
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cartuchohas anyone managed to install dbdesigner4 in ubuntu ?02:35
coz_exalted, is this anintel based cpu02:35
cartuchoegy02:35
coz_exalted, intel02:35
exaltedcoz_, no it's a powerpc02:35
coz_exalted, ok hold on02:35
rausb0pukeko: hardware detection is not done by kudzu in ubuntu, it uses udev for that.02:35
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rausb0TIger_IT: he meant kudzu, not kdesu02:35
pukekoTIger: i just want to detect and configure my nics02:35
ripper__i have an ati all in wonder 7500 , and i was looking at swapping video cards out, right now there is an ati rage II pro in this box, if i put the AIW in this pc, will my xserver break?02:35
jamesstansellkevb: patches are generally unified diff files - sometimes they'll have a .diff extension02:35
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coz_exalted, are you able to boot from the cd holding down the "c" key02:36
TIger_ITrausb0:  ahh OK...02:36
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exaltedcoz_, yeah; i've already arrived to the level of formatting the drive...02:36
TIger_ITxD02:37
rausb0pukeko: detection is done by udev, configuration can be done with some GUI tool (i dont use that) or by editing /etc/network/interfaces02:37
coz_exalted,  ok just wanted to be sure it was new world old world g3 acnnot boot from cd that way02:37
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exaltedcoz_, oh, i see...02:37
kevbjamesstansell: under ./debian/ there is a file called stamp-patch-debian=patches=01_fix_password_free.patch which is the patch i saw when i built the package. Problem is it's not a patch, its empty02:37
rausb0TIger_IT: kudzu is rehat's hardware detection tool02:37
rausb0*redhat's02:37
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pukekorausb0: no gui here..02:38
kevbjamesstansell: ahh, found ./debian/patches with patches in it02:38
TIger_ITrausb0:  thanks! I didnt know02:38
coz_exalted, can you be more specific as to the model of the laptop02:38
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rausb0pukeko: so read "man 5 interfaces" and edit /etc/network/interfaces accordingly02:38
exaltedcoz_, "iBook G3" =)02:38
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coz_exalted, ok02:39
CodeX__is nobody doing audio-recording with ubuntu?02:39
pukekorausb0: i deleted it to see what would happen - hoping i could get it to rewrite itself by using a tool like netconfig which i don't seem to have : )02:40
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coz_exalted, here is a starting point, not exactly what you want but look at this while I google more   http://research.naumachiarius.com/ibook-debian.html02:40
coolpaul900I need help!!!02:40
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exaltedcoz_, i'll give it a shot; ty02:41
livingdaylighthow does one force unmount /media/cdrom1 ?02:41
coolpaul900I am having BIG problem02:41
coz_exalted, well I am still looking so don't go anywhere02:41
rausb0pukeko: deleting system files just to see what happens is a bad idea :)  (at least without backup)02:41
exaltedcoz_, ok :)02:41
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coolpaul900I accidentily installed xubuntu when I was in aptitude02:42
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coolpaul900and it removed all ubuntu programs02:42
coolpaul900what do I do?02:42
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coolpaul900??02:42
exaltedcoz_, i suspect that i have to keep an MacOS installation on disk to get Ubuntu02:42
LabThugAnyone know how to install the  "Distribution update" for gkrellm?  It's greyed outfor me.02:42
coolpaul900Can someone help me?02:43
livingdaylightcan anyone help me with opening cdrom1?02:43
kevbjamesstansell: Do you know how to change a diff? Do I put a - sign before the line?02:43
marcantoHello, i have a problem with an old compaq presario 2292 (onboard sound card). has anyone a solution ? thanks02:43
livingdaylightit won't 'Eject' nor tray open from the front02:43
kevbjamesstansell: To remove it02:43
pukekorausb0: all part of the fun .. is there a netconfig in ubuntu ?02:43
coolpaul900I need help02:43
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LabThugcoolpaul900: is your system still running?02:43
livingdaylightkeeps saying device is busy02:43
coolpaul900Yes02:43
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LabThugtry `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop`02:44
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knowledgEngihello02:44
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jamesstansellkevb: you can pretend you're the diff command, but I don't recommend it.  I used to try but it didn't usually work well.02:44
knowledgEngiway do not exyst ubuntu optimised for i686 ???02:44
knowledgEngiexist for i386 but not for i68602:45
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knowledgEngii know that i386 can work under i686 cpu02:45
jamesstansellkevb: the bug has the patch, right?  can you replace the old one with the new one from the bug?02:45
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knowledgEngibut if is compiled for i686 i think is much better02:45
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kevbjamesstansell: The file in attached to the bug looks very different to the one in debian/patches, considering it's a one line change02:46
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coz_exalted, well so far not too much ... I might be working it incorrectly... however that particular link I gave you gives enough info to get started i wish you luck,, i tried ubuntu on an old world g3 with no luck cannot boot from cd02:46
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exaltedcoz_, i see; thank you!02:47
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Mez!fglrx02:48
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:48
rausb0pukeko: iirc no text based netconfig. but the manpage of the interfaces file has an example.02:48
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Mezhmm my fglrx isnt working02:49
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LabThugHow come ubuntu always comes up as a misspelled word on Edgy?02:49
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darkanyelhi02:50
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darkanyelhow can i change the icon of the gnome bar02:50
TomaszDLabThug, because upstream didn't include that word in their spellcheck dictionaries02:50
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marcantoI have a problem with an old compaq presario 2292 (onboard sound card) under xubuntu. has anyone a solution or an advice?02:50
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juanxhi02:50
darkanyelhow can i change the icon of the gnome bar???02:51
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LabThugTomaszD: while I realize it's a "small nit,"  I don't think it bodes well for ubuntu02:51
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TomaszDLabThug, agree. Still there are more important issues...02:51
jhaquohi, i have made a folder shared over samba, but i cannot access it from another computer, when i enter \\IP in the other computer, it asks me for a login and password, but i never set one02:51
darkanyelhow can i change the icon of the gnome bar???02:51
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TomaszDdarkanyel, look for the distributor-logo.png file02:52
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jamesstansellkevb: the debdiff in the bug is a diff of a diff - kinda weird02:53
lobosquehey, im trying to install cedega trough a .deb package, but when i open it, it says: "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs02:53
cypherhi all02:53
darkanyeli already change it but it doesnt work TomaszD02:53
Scoohi02:53
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knowledgEngiHey ubuntu developers, next time i want a release compiled for i686 :))02:53
TomaszDjhaquo, you need to set security = share in the samba config file02:53
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aMohammedhi there , I need to adjust my monitor brightness and gamma .. is there an option to do so in Gnome ?02:54
jhaquohow do i dot that please?02:54
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TomaszDdarkanyel, what doesn't work?02:54
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coz_exalted, here is an oldworld mac ubuntu install might come in handy   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OldWorldMacs02:54
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exaltedcoz_, got it02:54
darkanyelwll i change the distributor-icon but it still the same02:54
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lobosqueim trying to install cedega trough a .deb package, but when i open it, it says: "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs02:54
cyphernew edgy02:54
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cyphernoob at it02:54
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TomaszDjhaquo, gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf02:55
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Scoohow can i get a password for the channel (to verify my nick) ?02:55
balayhashiis there a way to say all reductions done in ghci?02:55
balayhashi:%say/see02:56
Scoo%say/see02:56
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Scoo?02:56
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peija-kasdoes anyone here know if the GameBoy Advance ROM flashing device G6 Lite 4gb works under Linux?02:56
balayhashi?02:56
TomaszDjhaquo, in there you should find the line with " security = "02:56
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TomaszDuncomment it and change to security = share02:57
Mezanyone know wher I can find logs for fglrx02:57
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TomaszDMez, /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be a good place to start.02:58
livingdaylighthi, Guys, what plugin to i need for Totem to play .mov (little movies i made with my Minolta digital cam)02:58
Scoodon't understand what you mean, TomaszD (or aren't you talking to me?)02:58
MezXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".02:58
sorush21guys I keep getting this error what is the best way of fixing it?02:58
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TomaszDScoo, not talking to you.02:58
Scoooh, ok :)02:58
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TomaszD:] 02:58
sorush21http://pastebin.co.uk/492002:58
sorush21what does this mean? libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b02:59
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LabThugsorush21: sounds like your sudoers file has a problem.  Can you paste it?02:59
TomaszDsorush21, paste the content of /etc/sudoers02:59
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Scoo-NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else02:59
Scoo-NickServ- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>02:59
livingdaylightsorush21: Allah Akbar!02:59
ivokssorush21: wine?02:59
Scoocan s.o. tell me, what this means ?02:59
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MtJBis there a separate channel for beryl support?  i feel like i am on acid.02:59
livingdaylightAnyone know what plays .mov files?03:00
LabThugScoo, you are using a name that someone else has reservered ...03:00
jamesstansellkevb: the comment says to not gfree the password, but that's not what it looks to me like the debdiff is doing03:00
exaltedcoz_, i'll go with a little reverse-engineering-mind. First i'll let Ubuntu format the drive automatically however he wants (seems to work). And then i'll look what he has done, and make a second custom installation like the way i want it... Thank you for your efforts.03:00
sorush21livingdaylight: you were in the christian chat right?03:00
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cypherubuntu sucks03:00
cypherubuntu sucks\03:00
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cypherubuntu sucksubuntu sucks03:00
sorush21ivoks: no I@am just doing the glxgears..03:00
kraut_for those who have problems to starting vmware after dist-upgrade to ubuntu/edgy: http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=49931703:00
Scoosomewhere in this chan or global, LabThug  ?03:00
livingdaylightsorush21: Salaam!03:00
[ANF] MasterNinjaback03:00
MtJBcypher, how do you feel about ubuntu?03:00
sorush21livingdaylight: islam channel03:00
cypherprivate03:00
[ANF] MasterNinja:P03:00
LabThugScoo: the Freenode network does these name reservations globally03:00
TomaszDlivingdaylight, w32codecs with mplayer03:00
sorush21livingdaylight: hello to you too03:00
livingdaylightsorush21: what were you saying in the christian and islam channels?03:01
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sorush21livingdaylight: can't remember now.03:01
livingdaylightTomaszD: how can i tell whether i have W32 or not?03:01
[ANF] MasterNinjawas it something fun?03:01
Scooa couple of years ago, i've reserved this name i thing but forgot password. Can i get the PW back, LabThug  ?03:01
math_hello03:01
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protocol1whats the latest linux image I can load on a pentium 3 system running edgy?03:01
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math_someone knows something about windowmaker?03:01
Scooand i also forgot all the IRC-things ;)03:01
[ANF] MasterNinjanope03:01
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math_all kde users? :P03:02
picassomath_, what about it03:02
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TomaszDlivingdaylight, you don't. You need to get it from another repository.03:02
LabThugScoo: I don't know.  You might be able to petition the Freenode admins, but I don't know the process03:02
bigusdickusmath_, yes is a window manager03:02
livingdaylightTomaszD: sorry, my X-chat crashed03:02
math_well... I cant make my own menu's03:02
lobosqueim trying to install a /deb file and its saying "error: dependency is not satisfiable: xlib" what should i do??03:02
[ANF] MasterNinjaUbuntu is nice cause its free its like a poor man's emergancy OS03:02
DevDuckScoo: did you try guessing your password?03:02
Scoook, thanks LabThug03:02
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[ANF] MasterNinjaand Wine lets you do windows stuff03:02
yah_bonjour, je ne vois pas mes disques dur dans le poste de travail, je ne comprends pas bien la manip /etc/fstab a faire. que faire ??? svp aidez moi au moins a trouver la doc dessus parce que je suis perdu03:02
jriblobosque: what is it a deb of?03:02
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livingdaylightTomaszD: how do you know i don't have it?03:02
picassomath_, did you try with the wmconf tool?03:02
ScooDevDuck, yes. tried my standard-pw ;)03:02
lobosquejrib cedega03:02
protocol1whats the latest linux image I can load on a pentium 3 system running edgy?03:02
math_just wmconf in console?03:02
Scoobut does'nt seem to be03:02
TomaszDlivingdaylight, you don't know what it is. that's why.03:02
picassoi dont remember, it's been years03:03
picassoWMConf maybe03:03
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livingdaylightTomaszD: lol,03:03
picassosomething like that03:03
DevDuckScoo: then you can try contacting a server admin, I don't think there's another way03:03
lobosquejrib what should i do?03:03
livingdaylightTomaszD: its is multimedia codecs right?03:03
TomaszDyes.03:03
math_picasso where I can find it?03:03
livingdaylightTomaszD: do you have the .deb file for w32?03:03
jriblobosque: have you searched teh wiki for a cedega page?03:03
Scoook, thank you DevDuck03:03
termleechi having some trouble getting my dual monitors to work under ubuntu 6.10 with a radeon 9200 using the fglrx drivers03:03
termleechi have a working dual monitor xorg.conf if i use the ati driver03:03
DevDuckI just upgraded dapper to edgy and now gnome doesn't start, X works, as does GDM but when I login nothing03:03
picassomath_ it should come with windowmaker, im not sure03:04
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DevDuckcan anyone help?03:04
math_ah03:04
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termleechhowever once i make the change of ati to fglrx i only get a single monitor03:04
termleechand not dual03:04
TomaszDlivingdaylight, http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb03:04
[ANF] MasterNinjaother people have this problem03:04
termleechany help would be appreciated03:04
lobosquejrib i dont think that i'll find support there, because im downloading it at emule03:04
dcordesanybody has vmware running in his xgl session?03:04
[ANF] MasterNinjamake a back up03:04
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jriblobosque: ...03:04
peija-kasdcordes i have03:04
[ANF] MasterNinjaand make a edgy cd03:04
peija-kasvmware works fine03:04
picassomath_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-118450.html03:04
math_ive installed ubuntu 5.10 plane and installed x-window-system etc. etc. with wdm wmaker03:04
dcordespeija-kas: hey nice... what os do you run in it?03:04
peija-kasDapper03:04
math_ok, I'll take a look, thnx03:04
peija-kasoh windows xp :D03:04
[ANF] MasterNinjaDevDuck03:04
peija-kaslol03:04
sorush21I can't access the sudoers.. file..03:05
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cyphersudo is easy03:05
lobosquejrib ?03:05
peija-kasi need couple windows apps, run those in vmware03:05
LabThugtermleech: I went through the same procress on 6.06  There are keywords you need to add to xorg.conf to make fglxr work.  I never got what I wanted and just switched back to the ati driver03:05
[ANF] MasterNinjadownload edgy and start over its a bad idea to do a upgrade03:05
picassohm i dono03:05
dcordespeija-kas: :-) that's what i meant. i'm trying to run xp too but the only thing i get is a black screen.03:05
sorush21I get the same error03:05
jriblobosque: buy it from cedega03:05
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jribor transgaming or whatever03:05
DevDuck[ANF] MasterNinja that seems like a harsh answer03:05
peija-kasdcordes i followed the vmware howto or somethign, worked right away03:05
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[ANF] MasterNinjaits the only solution03:05
dcordespeija_kas: me too... did you change anything03:05
peija-kasi have it on two dapper boxes, both run under xgl03:05
[ANF] MasterNinjaother people have had major problems upgrading03:06
peija-kasno, i just did the default install03:06
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dcordespeija_kas: oh nice. did you modify your vmx?03:06
dcordeshm03:06
cypheri install edgy desktop in vmware and it  went fine03:06
dcordesstrange03:06
kevbjamesstansell: If i modify the patch by hand it give an error "make: *** [reverse-patches]  Error 1"03:06
DevDuck[ANF] MasterNinja I have a feeling I can fix this if Itear gnome far enough apart03:06
cypherso whats the big deal03:06
dcordescypher: well i have a black screen when i boot win2k03:06
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dcordescypher: the loading screen pops up then it turns black03:06
sorush21help people how do I change the data please?03:06
[ANF] MasterNinjawell what ever you want man but id play it safe and do a fresh install03:06
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sorush21in the sudoers file?03:06
DevDuck[ANF] MasterNinja thanks forthe advice03:07
jribsorush21: visudo03:07
[ANF] MasterNinjanp03:07
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[ANF] MasterNinjamy mate had the same problem03:07
cypherdcorders: in vmware u mean03:07
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cypherdcordes: in vmware u mean03:07
DevDuck[ANF] MasterNinja he reinstalled?03:07
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dcordescypher: yea03:07
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[ANF] MasterNinjahe downloaded a edgy .iso and did a fresh install03:07
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[ANF] MasterNinjabacking up his work first :P03:08
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DevDuckof course03:08
[ANF] MasterNinjaUbuntu admited it is all thier fault03:08
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livingdaylightTomaszD: still says that decoder is missing :(03:08
sorush21jrib: I keep getting access denied.. with visudo, and sudo vidsudo gives me the same error03:08
TomaszDlivingdaylight, mplayer says that?03:08
DevDucknot upgrading is so very un-debian03:08
sorush21http://pastebin.co.uk/492003:08
TooTallJonesTo upgrade my BIOS I need to make an IBM formatted floppy.  How in the world can I do that? =/03:08
[ANF] MasterNinjayeah well its a once only03:09
Vigzillatotal noob here: 6.6 or 6.10 for first run?03:09
livingdaylightTomaszD: Totem03:09
mamzers555my nautilus is switching the language of it's menus? what is this problem about?03:09
jribsorush21: sudo visudo, should work.  Does 'sudo echo hi' work?03:09
[ANF] MasterNinjathey promise it wont happen again03:09
mamzers555can somebody help with this please?03:09
mamzers555it's annoying03:09
TomaszDlivingdaylight, totem won't open this03:09
sorush21jrib: no I get the same error03:09
livingdaylightTomaszD: do you know whether Totem is just a piece of crap?03:09
jribsorush21: I just saw your pastebin, have you set a root password by any chance?03:09
livingdaylightTomaszD: mplayer?03:09
TomaszDlivingdaylight, yes it is, try getting totem-xine and libxine-extracodecs03:09
sorush21jrib: how do I do that?03:10
livingdaylightok03:10
cypherdcordes: look the same thing happend to me yester day so i made a new vm and it went fine03:10
sorush21!root03:10
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:10
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Scoolivingdaylight, VLC maybe ?03:10
dcordescypher: reinstalling did not work03:10
cypherdcordes:03:10
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jamesstansell!debdiff03:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about debdiff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:10
dcordescypher: could you  dcc me your vmc?03:10
sorush21I get the same error with any thing that I try to use sudo jrib03:10
dcordesvmx03:10
jribsorush21: no, you don't need to.  It would just be more convenient if you had.  You'll have to reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu.  Then edit sudoers and fix your syntax.  In the future, using visudo toe dit will rpevent this from happening03:10
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jamesstansell!patch03:10
ubotupatch: Apply a diff file to an original. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.9-4 (edgy), package size 93 kB, installed size 188 kB03:10
livingdaylightScoo: already installing totem-xine now :p03:10
[ANF] MasterNinjaokay dudes i got a problem i cd /home/masterninja/install but it says that directory does not exist when i know it does03:11
Scoolivingdaylight, ok ;)03:11
cypherdcordes: dcc what that means03:11
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dcordessending files iver irc03:11
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jamesstansell!proposed03:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about proposed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:11
cypherim in anetcafe03:11
cypherno hme03:11
jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: is it Install or INSTALL maybe?  linux is case-sensitive03:11
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livingdaylightScoo: don't wanna end up with half-a-dozen players03:12
[ANF] MasterNinjana its lowercase03:12
livingdaylightScoo: but if this don't work i'll try VLC next :)03:12
phenexhey guys, i need help with edgy. i've just upgraded to it, the firefox 2.0 wizard came up, updated the addons and all, and now it doesn't load...03:12
jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: does 'ls /home/masterninja' list "install"?03:12
[ANF] MasterNinjakk03:12
Scoolivingdaylight, no prob, was just a hind. don't really know if .mov works with vlc :x03:12
Scoohave no .mov file to try here ..03:13
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[ANF] MasterNinjano it doesnt03:13
jribphenex: ps -ef | grep firefox, turn up anything?03:13
jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: where is install?  On your desktop?03:13
rambo3that quicktime codec03:13
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cypherdcordes: what is the vmware version u r using03:13
[ANF] MasterNinjamy account folder03:13
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jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: where do you see it?03:13
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phenexjrib, yup... should i kill it?03:14
[ANF] MasterNinjafile browser03:14
[ANF] MasterNinjaim looking at the contents now03:14
dcordescypher; i have a VMware Workstation 5.5.2 build-2977203:14
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Unimatrix9vmware yummie!03:14
jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: find ~ -name install03:14
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cypherwhat is the config of the mechine03:15
jribphenex: hmmm, yes, I would.  killall firefox-bin03:15
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livingdaylightTomaszD: thxx :D03:15
phenexit doesn't want to die -_-03:16
Unimatrix9is there an special channel for ubuntu and labtops?03:16
phenexfirefox-bin no procces03:16
TomaszDlivingdaylight, totem-xine works?03:16
VigzillaIs 6.6 Stable or is it 6.10?03:16
livingdaylightTomaszD: but no sound :(03:16
jribphenex: what did your ps find before?03:16
eliahello03:16
phenexand if i try to kill it by pid it just comes right back up03:16
Unimatrix96.06 LTS is stabel03:16
[ANF] MasterNinjaum it finds a folder in my recycle bin that wont delete03:16
TomaszDlivingdaylight, try mplayer03:16
VigzillaThank you03:16
livingdaylightk03:16
Unimatrix9hence the lts ( long term support )03:16
cypherwhaT ABOUT Edgy is it stable03:16
cypherits new03:16
jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: what do you want to do with install?  delete it?03:16
cypherwho can tell03:16
kmaynardcypher, works for me03:16
Unimatrix9edgy is edgy....03:17
phenexjrib, lera      6603  6503  0 16:18 pts/0    00:00:00 grep firefox03:17
eliais threre a way to look in the web a historia?03:17
cypherstill new stuff freaks me up03:17
kmaynardUnimatrix9, beat me to it :)03:17
Unimatrix9:)03:17
cypheris till use athlon 2600+03:17
[ANF] MasterNinjahang on im going to try something to fix it and come back cause its a long story on what i did wrong03:17
jribphenex: yeah, that's just your grep :) not actually firefox03:17
kmaynardcypher, then use dapper...easy choice03:17
phenexhmm...03:17
jribphenex: try 'firefox -safe-mode'03:17
phenexok... now i fell even lamer :P03:17
jamesstansellkevb: I've got to leave.  Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.03:17
egalhi03:17
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rambo3heh i always  run stable ubuntu for max 1 month , till first beta03:17
kmaynardheck, you could always install FF2 from mozilla.com, and even gaim 2 if you want, just run it on top of dapper03:17
Unimatrix9cypher, as in the matrix?03:18
kmaynardthere's a few new features in nautilus that i love, but dapper is still rockin03:18
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phenexjrib, works under safe mode03:18
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jribphenex: ok, close it, and just run 'firefox'.  What does it say?03:18
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sorush20jrib: I got into grub what can I do exactly?03:18
jribsorush20: select "recovery mode" from the menu03:18
jribsorush20: then use 'visudo' and fix your syntax03:19
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cypherneo man03:19
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Dimensionsjason_away: .... when i do /etc/init.d/mysql restart it says ... ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)03:19
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Unimatrix9nock nock03:19
sorush20jrib: you mean just select the same kernel image but with the recovery mode that is infront of it/03:19
phenexjrib, Segmentation fault (core dumped)03:19
Unimatrix9follow the white rabit :P03:19
cyphercool03:20
jribsorush20: hmm there should be some option that just says "Recovery mode".  This was the case in dapper, though I haven't looked at it in edgy03:20
sorush20at the end it says press ctrl + D to continue to enter root password for administration..03:20
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jribsorush20: ok maybe it changed, try that03:20
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cypherhahaha03:20
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webbenIs there any way to install the spidermonkey library?03:21
cypherso lets talk serious03:21
jribphenex: firefox -ProfileManager    try making a new profile03:21
Unimatrix9whats spidermonkey? ( alway's ready to learn new things )03:21
[ANF] MasterNinjaEMERGANCY I need the chmod command to enable to view contents of a particular folder.03:21
jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: what folder03:21
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[ANF] MasterNinjainstall folder somethings gone deadly wrong03:21
phenexjrib, but but my profile :( all my bookmarks and everything03:21
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jribphenex: it will still be there, you can copy the bookmarks over03:22
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cyphersweeeet03:22
kmaynardchmod u+r folder/03:22
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[ANF] MasterNinjathx03:22
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babowhat's the story with mozphone ? has anyone here used it ?03:23
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kmaynardfor the contents chmod -R u+r folder/03:23
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jribwebben: apt-cache search spider monkey   turns up 6 packages03:23
kmaynardthat just gives the owner read permission...03:23
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webbenjrib: yes, but i can't seem to actually install them03:23
jribwebben: what happens03:23
Unimatrix9ok i am off to ubuntu-laptop....03:23
mirakphanter:03:23
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Unimatrix9bye bye03:23
egali'd like to try out ubuntu, so i put the kernel and ramdisk from dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ on an empty partition and booted from it. now the installer doesn't seem to support a network installation and only offers to look for an install-iso-image.03:23
Unimatrix9take care...all you geeks03:23
cyphergeeeeks rule03:24
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webbenjrib: ah I may have just gotten it working :)03:24
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tategal: try the net-install image03:24
Unimatrix9yeah! they do, especially cypher!03:24
Unimatrix9:P03:24
phenexjrib, works with new profile.03:24
cyphertrue man03:24
livingdaylightTomaszD: no, sound working too :) Sound was somehow tied up by something else. Rebooted and it works completely now03:25
phenexhow can i move over my bookmarks and addons and all03:25
[ANF] MasterNinjaoh noes03:25
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TomaszDlivingdaylight, cool, glad it works.03:25
[ANF] MasterNinjait says it doesnt exist but i know that folder exists03:25
jribphenex: ok then it may be an extension problem.  I'm not sure of this, but set your regular profile to default, start safe mode, and then see if you can disable all the extensions03:25
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livingdaylightTomaszD: thx again. That makes my day to be able to watch movies of my kid i made some years back :D03:25
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livingdaylightTomaszD: in future i must remember on a fresh ubuntu install to install Totem-xine then and something-extracodecs?03:26
TomaszDlibxine-extracodecs03:26
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TomaszDyes03:26
sexcopter8000does anyone know how you can set up the gnome xchat client to auth with Q automatically when xchat connects?03:26
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phenexjrib, it doesn't let me manage addons from safe mode03:26
[ANF] MasterNinjai screwed my folders up so much im gonna chicken out and reinstall ubuntu03:26
asranielhi, i have a problem with dapper. im want to look a film, but the sound is.. strange. its like i was listening to a vinil disk, but that there was one bug scratch on it03:26
kevbAnyone know anything about the current vino issue in edgy?03:27
jribphenex: k, then your options are to a) figure out how to disable extensions b) use the new profile and copy over the settings you want (see ~/.mozilla/firefox/ )03:27
egaltat: the thing is, i actually have a full ubuntu iso, but the installer doesn't let me mount the related partition and supply the path - the only option is to make an automated search that doesn't work. this is kind of irritating.03:27
dcordesvino???!03:27
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sexcopter8000(i'm referring to when xchat connects to quakenet of course)03:28
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tategal: oh..03:28
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Loceuris there a live cd available?03:28
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jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: that sounds like overkill, why don't you explain in a bit more detail what happened03:28
Loceurohh and hi!03:28
[ANF] MasterNinjai cant i did to many stupid commands03:28
jribLoceur: desktop cd is the live cd and the install cd03:28
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XiXaQWhat is the difference between hostname and domain in Networking?03:28
[ANF] MasterNinjai cant retrace what i did03:28
Loceurjrib, thanks!03:28
jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: what were you trying to do?03:29
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[ANF] MasterNinjabasically03:29
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brynkanyone in here yet eith a working epson aculaser c1100?03:29
tapasXiXaQ: read the network administrator's guide03:29
TIger_ITSoory... how can I execute/run a .sh script ?03:29
[ANF] MasterNinjaokay what happend was i tried to enable execute functions on a certain folder03:29
XiXaQtapas, url?03:29
tapaswww.google.com03:30
[ANF] MasterNinjaand it went badly wrong cause i entered the wrong commands03:30
jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: k, was this folder somewhere in your home directory?03:30
ayaado you suggest using easyubuntu to get the fllash and java plugins on my ubuntu ?03:30
jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: as long as you didn't touch anything outside your home, the worst-case scenario would be to make a fresh new user03:30
[ANF] MasterNinjaoh would that sove the problem?03:30
kevbanyone know how i can make gdm login automatically on startup, using only ssh?03:31
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tRSSmy system loads, all sorts of services when it boots, e.g. kbluetoothd, bittrack.bittorrent, etc. which dont want it to start. where do I change this bahevoir?03:31
jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: I'm not sure what the problem is, but you can try03:31
[ANF] MasterNinjathing is i cant delete the folder03:31
XiXaQtapas, is it the same for all networks and all operating systems, or is it different between windows and ubuntu?03:31
phenexjrib, thanks. i managed to disable all unneeded addons and now it works03:31
[ANF] MasterNinjakk03:31
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jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: just use sudo03:31
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[ANF] MasterNinjai was logged in as rout03:31
jribphenex: can you give me a quick summary of what you had to do to disable them?03:31
n2kover 1000 people in here.03:31
n2kpretty impressive.03:31
[ANF] MasterNinjaroot*03:31
FlatsNE1 familair with Samba/SWAT for Ubuntu] 03:32
[ANF] MasterNinja1000 people?03:32
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[ANF] MasterNinjathat makes ubuntu teh awesomes03:32
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TIger_ITSoorry... how can I execute/run a .sh script ?!!!!!!!!!!03:32
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bronzescript.sh then press enter03:32
jribTIger_IT: sh /path/to/script.sh   make sure you understand what it does or trust the source...03:33
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zmoTIger_IT - sh script.sh or . script.sh or chmod +x script.sh && ./script.sh or chmod +x script.sh && export PATH=$PATH:. && script.sh03:33
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TIger_ITjrib  and zmo ......... thanks :)03:33
zmoand avoid the '?!!!!!!!!!!' people get banned for less03:34
kevbAnyone know how t oenabled automatic login in gdm, from a console03:34
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cyphersystem->administration->login.....somthing the featur is there03:35
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phenexjrib, i ran profile manager again to switch back to my profile, it gave core dump again. then i ran firefox in safe mode and chose the option "disable all add-ons" in the menu that pops up. then ran firefox and enabled the addons i need03:35
jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: join #ubuntu-classroom and we'll sort out this mysterious 'install' folder if you wish (don't want to clog up #ubuntu with a bunch of commands back and forth)03:35
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jribphenex: ah good to know, thanks03:35
KenSentMeI have a command that i want to run everytime the system is started and it needs to be run by root. Where do i put it?03:35
DevDuck[ANF] MasterNinja I did a `apt-get install gnome` and that worked03:35
TooTallJonesAnyone know how to make an IBM formatted floppy to update my BIOS in linux or windows xp?03:35
kevbcypher: Need to do it from the console, no GUI03:35
cypherkevb: system->admin...--> login  chk there u will find what u want03:35
[ANF] MasterNinjareally?03:35
DevDuckit installed a few things I didn't want but oh well03:35
cypherahh03:36
[ANF] MasterNinjaah as long as its runs smooth keep it as it is03:36
DevDuckthats my feeling03:36
sticazzithere's a package that I need to remove and the removal in Synaptic fails: E: graphviz-cairo: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 12703:36
cypherr u good in shell03:36
soundraykevb: still here?03:36
sticazzihow can I clean this up?03:36
[ANF] MasterNinjayeah have you got alot of stuff installed?03:36
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Ace_NoOnehi there - quick newbie question: I'm determined to make finally the switch to Ubunto. Now I've read a lot about how Edgy screwed up many people's systems - does this only affect upgrades from Dapper or should I start with Dapper rather than Edgy?03:36
n2ksticazzi: i've got that on powerpc too.03:36
DevDuckit's a very customized system03:37
Ace_NoOne*finally make *sigh*03:37
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kevbsoundray: yeah man03:37
sticazziAce_NoOne, from scratch it's fine03:37
[ANF] MasterNinjaah you'd best keep it as it is03:37
sticazzijust make enough space for it.. what's your HDD setup?03:37
[ANF] MasterNinjayeah Edgy is like electronic love03:37
jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: I've only seen problems with the upgrade route for some people, but try both live cd's and see what you prefer03:37
sticazzin2k, mine is a standard x8603:37
DevDuckit's running, so having gnomeoffice and the ilk isn't a big deal03:37
jribAce_NoOne: I've only seen problems with the upgrade route for some people, but try both live cd's and see what you prefer03:37
DShepherdAce_NoOne: it only applies to Dapper Edgy upgrades...03:37
kevbsoundray: You got any ideas?03:38
[ANF] MasterNinjaya03:38
Ace_NoOneok thx03:38
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gnufiedmy apt tree is in mess, because a package called python-subversion failed to install, because of "bus error ldconfig" now every damn package I install/remove complains about that..and won't let me install/remove anything eventually03:38
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Ace_NoOnesticazzi: 2x320GB - that should be enough :D03:38
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soundraykevb: open your /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom (or create a new one if not existing). Find a section called [daemon]  and add two lines: "AutomaticLoginEnable=true" and "AutomaticLogin=user", replacing user with your username.03:38
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sticazziyeah, are they SATA, EIDE or mixture?03:38
DShepherdAce_NoOne: Dapper seems to be rock solid and you can start with that if you like... Edgy... well its a bit edgy,,, you can jump to that too if you like03:38
ayaado you suggest using easyubuntu to get the fllash and java plugins on my ubuntu ?03:38
varianthttp://www.platinax.co.uk/news/01-11-2006/linux-distros-ubuntu-trustix-and-suse-accused-of-email-spam/ <--- lol03:38
Ace_NoOnesticazzi: 2xSATA203:38
[ANF] MasterNinjahmm i wander what the admin group gives me03:38
DimensionsLoceur u can get it from http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download03:38
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rambo3ayaa, use apt03:38
sticazziAce_NoOne, you're fine03:38
[ANF] MasterNinjai bet it gives me execution rights03:38
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jrib!flash > ayaa03:38
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jrib!java > ayaa03:39
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Ace_NoOnecool - thanks for the info guys03:39
kevbsoundray: Thanks, I'll give that a try right now03:39
[ANF] MasterNinjaanyone had problems running scripts?03:39
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jrib[ANF] MasterNinja: admin gives you ability to use sudo03:39
rambo3[ANF] MasterNinja, more specific03:39
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[ANF] MasterNinjaperfect cause my driver wont install cause user doesnt have execution rights03:40
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FlatsWhat is the Ubuntu control file? Inetd.conf found in /etc?03:40
Bokeh<variant> http://www.platinax.co.uk/news/01-11-2006/linux-distros-ubuntu-trustix-and-suse-accused-of-email-spam/ <-- that is about the dumbest article i've read in quite a while03:40
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Bokehvery typical PHB material03:40
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tRSSwhat is bonobo-activation-server?03:40
tRSS~bonobo03:40
tRSS!bonobo03:40
ubotubonobo: The GNOME Bonobo System.. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.22-9 (edgy), package size 230 kB, installed size 1308 kB03:40
[ANF] MasterNinjalol a windows bloke ran that03:40
[ANF] MasterNinjadumbass story03:40
Bokehyeah03:41
[ANF] MasterNinjayou can smell it03:41
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Bokehmust be some muppet who can't be arsed reading the footer in a mailing list message about how to send an unsubscribe mail to a list03:41
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[ANF] MasterNinjai read something about linux sucking at running games03:41
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[ANF] MasterNinja:P03:42
sticazzianyone know how to de-install a package manually, it's stopping me from upgrading the system and all sorts of other stuff03:42
Bokehhehe03:42
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[ANF] MasterNinjayeah but thats direct x though03:42
kevbsoundray: You don't know anything about vino do you?03:42
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[ANF] MasterNinjawine will emulate direct 3d at some point03:42
Bokehthe usual "gaming on linux sucks so we won't make any games for linux" farce03:42
TomaszDsticazzi, try sudo apt-get -f install03:42
[ANF] MasterNinjathen windows will be screwed03:42
TomaszDjust that03:42
Bokehdoubtful :)03:42
kmaynardgaming is for consoles03:42
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soundraysticazzi: post the output of 'sudo apt-get -f install' on the pastebin pls (see /topic)03:42
cyziewhat is the command to add/remove locale after the system is installed?03:42
Bokehpeople will still stay with windows if only because of the vendor-lockin03:42
soundraykevb: try me03:43
[ANF] MasterNinjadoesnt that transgaming will run most games anyways03:43
sticazzi executing..03:43
dutchydual boot works fine. but screw nwn2 for not having native linux support!!03:43
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[ANF] MasterNinjaits run bf214203:43
hoelkhmm03:43
xamoxwhat IDS does everyone suggest?03:43
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kmaynardpeople stay with windows because they can get a $4-500 pc that does tall they want it to, works with crap off-the-shelf hardware, etc03:43
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hoelki want to play a game windowed with wine that starts foolscreen by default03:43
[ANF] MasterNinjano shadowing effets though but plays fine03:43
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hoelkany idea how to achieve that?03:43
Bokehthat's hardly an argument anymore kmaynard03:43
kmaynardthere's a lot of people i dont want using linux03:43
Bokeha local computer store sells computers with dapper preinstalled (OEM installation), and it does anything a normal desktop user wants to do 90% of the time03:44
rambo3in this channel ?03:44
sticazzihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29731/03:44
DimensionsHiya guys ... i dont know some thing is wrong but when i try to access mysql with php page or try to start mysql or restart it i get this message every time .... and when i check mysqld in the location it states ... its not there either ... ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)03:44
[ANF] MasterNinjalook if u dont buy vista you'll have $200 more to spend on hardware03:44
sticazzithat's the output03:44
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ayaawhere can i find sun-java5-jre package03:44
kevbsoundray: Theres a current bug (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/65795). A fix is there, I'm not sure what to do with it. So far I have altered the source like I think it describes and have built it and installed it. I'm just rebooting to see if it works but I don't think it has. I'm wondering if there is a sane way to fix it : )03:44
kmaynardBokeh, they'll just bring it back and ask for windows when it doesnt run {app here]  or work with [device here] 03:44
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rambo3Dimensions, can you access it in terminal03:45
hangfireayaa- type java5 into a synaptec search03:45
Bokehthe problem is shit like directx, asp, which causes software developers to stick with windows because it'd actually cost them to make software platform-independent03:45
dutchykmaynard: perhaps those ppl would be better off with mac os x than windows :> (although i've never tried mac os x myself, it sounds reasonably fool-proof :>)03:45
soundraysticazzi: you have some package manager running. Quit it, redo the apt-get -f install and paste the output again pls03:45
rambo3Dimensions,  mysql -p root03:45
sticazzipardon me03:45
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kmaynarddutchy, more than agreed03:45
Bokehhehe03:45
Bokehtrue :)03:45
[ANF] MasterNinjacmon im a real noob GUI obsessed windows user but after a few days i can fumble my way round the router to do standard stuff soon ill have a linux clone of what i had on xp including games, drivers and software.03:45
[ANF] MasterNinjai mean terminal03:46
hangfireayaa-whoops, you said jre and not jdk03:46
LjL!offtopic03:46
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!03:46
[ANF] MasterNinjawere talking about ubuntu03:46
kmaynardLjL, sorry...got carried away03:46
StephenLAnyone know of good open source Project Management software?03:46
mike_Hello, how do i do so i can start a program by just typing for example "firefox" insteed of "/usr/bin/firefox"03:46
sticazzihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29732/03:46
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AndyStephenL: what are u looking for? eclipse?03:47
LjLStephenL: what about planner?03:47
[ANF] MasterNinjadoes win amp run on wine?03:47
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Bokehit does03:47
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Bokehbut why would you want winamp?03:47
sticazzidoesn't here03:48
aoupimike_: make sure it is in your path (echo $PATH) or make a new directory with your apps that you add to your path(add a line in your .bashrc that says PATH=$PATH:/my/apps)03:48
[ANF] MasterNinjacant be bothered to install codecs for freeware :P03:48
rambo3mikl, alias export ldconf03:48
soundraykevb: what's your current version of vino?03:48
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StephenLI was looking at http://www.openworkbench.org/ but it looks like a stale project.  I'll check out planner.  Thanks.03:48
[ANF] MasterNinjaunless installing codecs is easy03:48
variant[ANF] MasterNinja: freeware?03:48
PlanarPlatypus[ANF] MasterNinja, you can get it to run under wine but have you looked at xmms as an alternative?03:48
TooTallJonesanyone who can help me with upgrading my BIOS?03:48
miklrambo3: interesting :)03:48
[ANF] MasterNinjadoes xmms have the codecs installed?03:48
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PlanarPlatypus[ANF] MasterNinja, for what file format?03:49
kevbsoundray: It's 2.16.0-0ubuntu2 not 2.16.0-0ubuntu2.103:49
mike_aoupi: Thanks, I'm going to try it now. I'll report back.03:49
jmitchjcould someone help me with this message?..."W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.moshen.de dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY FC0A1CC62F306651"03:49
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[ANF] MasterNinjamp3,mp4 among others03:49
soundrayTooTallJones: this isn't the best channel to ask. Have you looked at the motherboard manufacturer's web site?03:49
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josh__who uses vi in here?03:49
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aoupimike_: just one thing, don't put your own app in /usr/bin, it's best to let ubuntu handle that path by itself03:49
josh__or vim03:49
rambo3mikl, yeah i thought so , this nickname complatation  in xchat is science03:49
sticazziIf I actually hit "yes" then I get the following error: /var/lib/dpkg/info/graphviz-cairo.postrm: 11: dot: not found   subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 12703:49
rausb0[ANF] MasterNinja: xmms comes with mp3 by default. ogg and others can be installed too. mp4 i dont know.03:50
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rausb0josh__: whats the question?03:50
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[ANF] MasterNinjai dont have any mp4's anyway but i want windows media and quick time to work as well03:50
miklrambo3: yeah, it's not easy to figure out03:50
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KenSentMeI have a command that i want to run everytime the system is started and it needs to be run by root. Where do i put it?03:50
soundraykevb: I think you'll have to apt-get the source to vino as well as the build dependencies, then apply the patch and recompile.03:51
josh__when i do a "/search string" in a file... it will find one... is there a command that will make it search for that string again?03:51
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rausb0josh__: n03:51
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PlanarPlatypus[ANF] MasterNinja, try installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, this should give you mp3 and windows media playback03:51
josh__or do i have to continually type "/search string" for each instance03:51
josh__"n"?03:51
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cyziewhat is the command to add/remove locale after the system is installed?03:52
josh__woot woot03:52
PlanarPlatypus[ANF] MasterNinja, not tried quicktime personally but I am told it works03:52
rausb0josh__: "n" for next03:52
josh__thats rausb003:52
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josh__tanks03:52
[ANF] MasterNinjaill make a note03:52
kevbKenSentMe: You probably want to put a script in /etc/rc0.d/ but I'm not sure03:52
josh__*thanks03:52
The_Machinewhat's another good linux image editor that isn't as complex as gimp03:52
The_Machinejust looking for something like paint.net for Windows03:52
kevbKenSentMe: Maybe someone else could confirm03:52
ayaawich branch to use to get the sun-java-jre (universe/multi .... ?)03:52
abzei get this when i do apt-get update "W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release: Could not execute '/usr/bin/gpgv' to verify signature (is gnupg installed?)03:52
abze" how can i fix it?03:52
josh__who in here has setup their apache server?03:52
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The_Machinemaybe for gnome?03:52
felix_server\ caltanet.azzurra.org03:52
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jribayaa: multiverse03:52
[ANF] MasterNinjalol use photoshop CS 2 on wine03:52
abzeand gnupg is not isntalled03:52
[ANF] MasterNinja:P03:52
StephenLKenSentMe:  Put it in /etc/rc.local03:53
aoupijosh__: I have03:53
[ANF] MasterNinjai dunno03:53
josh__its complaining about fully qualified domain name... i dont have a "ServerName=" line in my httpd.conf file... where do i add it at?03:53
soundrayKenSentMe: add the command to /etc/rc.local03:53
[ANF] MasterNinjaphotoshop is preety easy03:53
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kevbKenSentMe: There ya go, what they said03:53
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Dimensionsrambo3: ... i am only using terminal ...03:53
mikeconceptsSeveas, I'm getting an error trying to install several things, it is saying falcon isn't available.03:53
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sticazziThe_Machine, http://osdir.com/Article7278.phtml - It's a GIMP clone with the menus moved around for the people who are comfortable with PhotoShop03:54
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JNeverMindgood morning03:54
josh__just add that line anywhere near the top?03:54
aoupijosh__: just add it anywhere in the httpd.conf03:54
rambo3Dimensions, ask ubotu about lamp and google mysql + error number03:54
josh__rgr03:54
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JNeverMindive successfully setup software raid1 with ubuntu dapper before03:54
jmitchjcould someone help me with this message?..."W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.moshen.de dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY FC0A1CC62F306651"03:54
kevbsoundray: I did apt-get source and built all deps, I applied current patches then modified vino_conf.c by hand and built it. It still has the problem : )03:54
JNeverMindafter a reinstall im a little screwed :/03:54
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The_Machineno03:55
The_Machinenot looking for something as powerful as photoshop03:55
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The_Machinei mean very simple..  i don't even need filters03:55
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The_Machinea "quick image editor"03:55
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The_Machinelike, fire it up, edit, save & clsoe03:55
aoupiThe_Machine: tuxpaint :)03:55
Dimensionsrambo3:  i dont have LAMP i installed mysql php and apache manually ...03:55
The_Machinek03:55
The_Machinethanks!03:55
aoupiThe_Machine: my little sister loves it03:55
aleki want to add files from /home/alek/files/ to my repository places in /home/alek/respos. how to do it?03:55
The_Machinelol03:56
soundraykevb: how annoying. Sorry, I've no ideas. Perhaps you want to add your experience to the bug report.03:56
rambo3Dimensions, so you dont have Linux Apache Mysql Php ?03:56
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KenSentMeStephenL, and others: thank you03:56
soundraysticazzi: what happens if you hit Y at this point?03:56
aoupiThe_Machine: you can try xpaint, but that might be too simple03:56
sticazziIf I actually hit "yes" then I get the following error: /var/lib/dpkg/info/graphviz-cairo.postrm: 11: dot: not found   subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 12703:56
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The_Machinei'm checking tuxpaint right now03:57
mamzers555how to delete attachments in launchpad?03:57
kevbsoundray: Yeah, I might, I'm just trying to confirm that I have done eveything correctly first. Thanks for help anyway, auto login worked nicely :D03:57
The_MachineHAHA03:57
The_Machinethis doesnt' look how i expected it to!03:57
sticazziI get the same result if I run the "apt autoremove" command03:57
aoupiThe_Machine: :)03:57
sticazziapt-get*03:57
mamzers555does somebody knows that if this is possible?03:57
The_MachineLOL03:57
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Joe_SWAUHi. :-) I was updating edubuntu, and my laptop lost power. Now it won't boot. I tried the boot rescue command on the live cd, but it just gave me some error.03:58
rausb0The_Machine: tuxpaint is for kids, try xpaint03:58
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The_Machinehehe03:58
soundraysticazzi: can you pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/graphviz-cairo.postrm please03:58
The_Machineyeah03:58
The_Machinei realize that now :P03:58
[ANF] MasterNinjahow do i change directory?03:58
ubuntero22hello, i have a problem installing dapper, when loading i get error such "buffer i/o error" anybody knows how can i solve this? thanks a lot for your help03:58
aoupiThe_Machine: but you wont have any sound effects with xpaint, that is a major draw bacx03:58
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The_Machinesound effects?03:58
rausb0[ANF] MasterNinja: in the shell?03:58
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georgycd directory03:58
[ANF] MasterNinjathe terminal03:58
soundrayJoe_SWAU: "some error" isn't a very helpful problem description03:58
The_Machinelike lightsabers clashing?03:58
The_Machine:P03:58
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rausb0[ANF] MasterNinja: cd directoryname03:59
aoupiThe_Machine: yea, tuxpaint has all theese weird sounds for when you paint, yes, sounds like lightspabers sometimes03:59
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The_Machineyeah03:59
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The_Machinethis is too simple.03:59
[ANF] MasterNinjana it wont do it says the folder doesnt exist03:59
The_Machinesigh03:59
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kevbcan anyone running edgy do me a massive favour? : )03:59
The_Machinei'll use gimp.03:59
rausb0[ANF] MasterNinja: where the exact specification of directoryname depends on the shell's current directory03:59
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The_Machinefrowns03:59
The_Machineheh03:59
[ANF] MasterNinjaits /home/masterninja/install04:00
ubuntero22hello, i have a problem installing dapper, when loading i get error such "buffer i/o error" anybody knows how can i solve this? thanks a lot for your help04:00
[ANF] MasterNinjabut it says the directory does not exist04:00
rausb0[ANF] MasterNinja: so look where you are now: pwd04:00
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Is there a rescure cd I should download, or should it be on the live cd?04:00
abzewhen i do apt-get update i gett an error from a program i uninstalled, asks me if u still have it, and no i dont. any way to fix it04:00
sticazzihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29734/ from line 32 onwards04:00
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kevbAnyone on edgy, I need a massive favour. +1000 karma :)04:00
soundrayJoe_SWAU: what's the error you get from the live CD?04:00
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josh__who was the apache guy in here again?04:00
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aoupijosh__: hi04:01
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neubhy guy04:01
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coolpaul900Why does the splash look kinda weird?04:01
josh__aoupi: what is the file that specifies what port apache will listen on?04:01
sticazziI guess I need to edit it and remove that "dot" thing which I have no clue about what it is04:01
neubi'm looking for a soft to transform mpeg video in avi without compression04:01
rausb0[ANF] MasterNinja: file- and directorynames are case sensitive, so "install" is not the same as "Install"04:01
mike_aoupi: Hmm i can't find a line with $PATH in my /home/mike/.bashrc   what about "ln" command? What is the best way of going about this?04:01
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coolpaul900almost darker?04:01
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josh__mike_: you want it to be globally?04:01
josh__from any user?04:02
mike_josh__: Yes04:02
josh__for*04:02
aoupijosh__: Listen 80 will listen on port 8004:02
Joe_SWAUsoundray: I can get the live cd to boot just fine. It gives me an error when it type: rescue acpi=off. It was a missing file error I believe.04:02
josh__vim /etc/environment04:02
aoupimike_: you can add a line04:02
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soundraysticazzi: just edit that file, insert 'exit 0' as the second line, and try removing again04:02
coolpaul900Why does my splash look kinda weird? It looks a little darker then normal?04:02
josh__yeah aoupi, but what file to i make that change in?04:02
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aoupijosh__: httpd.conf04:02
Dimensionsrambo3: ... i do have apache2 mysql and php5 which i installed manually in my ubuntu machine ... while the ubuntu it self was installed like few months ago ... and i did use php apache and mysql a few days ago ... but now i am having this problem ...04:02
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josh__i dont have that line in my http.conf04:02
ubuntero22i have a problem installing dapper, when loading i get error such "buffer i/o error" anybody knows how can i solve this? thanks a lot for your help04:02
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kevbAnyone on edgy with gnome, I need a massive favour... +5000 karma now :)04:02
coolpaul900Why does my splash look kinda weird? It looks a little darker then normal?04:03
soundrayJoe_SWAU: how far do you get when you try booting from the HD?04:03
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coolpaul900Why does my splash look kinda weird? It looks a little darker then normal?04:03
sticazzisoundray, nice! works now04:03
Joe_SWAUsoundrary: Not very far. It gives me a kernel error. I can reboot to my HD, then boot back into the Live CD, and tell you what the error is exactly.04:03
aoupijosh__: well you could cd to the directory with httpd.conf and do: grep Listen *04:04
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sticazziwhere can I file bug reports? this the third I found related to installation04:04
aoupijosh__: or just add the Listen line04:04
jrib!bugs | sticazzi04:04
goukibugs.ubuntu.com04:04
ubotusticazzi: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots04:04
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coolpaul900sticazzi: launchpad.net04:04
kevbAnyone on edgy with gnome, I need a massive favour... OK +10000 karma half now half on completion :)04:04
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soundrayJoe_SWAU: good idea. I'll be back in 10 min. Someone else may be available to help04:04
josh__yeah i just ended up adding the listen line.... works now04:04
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jribkevb: just ask04:04
ubuntero22i have a problem installing dapper, when loading i get error such "buffer i/o error" anybody knows how can i solve this? thanks a lot for your help04:05
kevbjrib: Its complicated : )04:05
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mirakmy kernel doesn't boot04:05
mirakis there some support somewhere ?04:05
jribkevb: pastebin maybe, I mean do you think someone will just say yes without knowing what the massive favor is? :)04:05
Andymirak:try here;-)04:05
sticazziI'd be happy if someone quickly reviews the other two just to make sure that I'm not spamming the bug tracking tool. The problems I had encountered were: http://cimarosti.blogspot.com/2006/10/ubuntu-installation.html04:05
coolpaul900Why does my splash look kinda weird? It looks a little darker then normal?04:05
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ubotucoolpaul900: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience04:06
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kevbI need someone to enable remote desktop, set password to "password" (or something else, known) and then copy me the file ~/gconf/desktop/gnome/remote_access/%gconf.xml . (Theres no security problem btw, just tell me the password after you copy the file and change the pw)04:06
coolpaul900Why does my splash look kinda weird? It looks a little darker then normal?04:06
ubuntero22i have a problem installing dapper, when loading i get error such "buffer i/o error" anybody knows how can i solve this? thanks a lot for your help04:06
alnoktaHello ... I need some help ... I was adjusting "Services" from "System" ... I unticked "D bus service" . when I did that ... the "services-admin" disappeared ..also I cannot access "Right click on desktop menu" ... anyone knows how to undo the stupid thing I made?04:06
josh__lol next question... who uses dyndns services?04:06
josh__such as webhop/dynamic dns... whatever04:07
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mirakAndy: the 2.6.17-10 kernel fail to boot, I think it's bound to LVM. by grub menu.lst is ok, but something is wrong with this upgrade from dapper. I had this problem on another computer but it's fixed now, though I don't know how or why.04:07
coolpaul900mirak, I had the same problem04:07
mirakI am goind to do a fresh install but that's a waste of time04:07
kevbjrib: Feel like helping : )04:08
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coolpaul900mirak, did you type aptitude in the terminal and check to see if any was broken?04:08
mike_aoupi: So now I've added the dir to both bachrc and enviroment /home/mike/myappdir but how what?04:08
mirakI also can copy that other system to this boot partition since I managed to boot that other harddrive on this box04:08
jribkevb: maybe in a bit, doing something else atm04:08
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JNeverMindweee  i got it04:08
sticazzishould I post these as bugs or are they too minor?04:08
mirakcoolpaul900: lot of problems came during the upgrade04:08
coolpaul900ya04:08
mike_aoupi: How do i start my program just by typing "appname" without /dir/dir/appname04:09
kevbjrib: No problem at all04:09
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mirakCoolBeer: but now it seems to be fixed. Maybe a package like ubuntu-minimal is missing, I will check that04:09
alnoktanevermind ..04:09
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coolpaul900Mirak: That was my only problem I think..04:09
mirakcoolpaul900: how did yu fixed it ?04:09
ubuntero22i have a problem installing dapper, when loading i get error such "buffer i/o error" anybody knows how can i solve this? thanks a lot for your help04:09
coolpaul900go to aptitude in the terminal04:09
coolpaul900mirak: then look to see if there is any broken packages04:10
aoupimike_: it should just work now04:10
LjLaoupi: you add the directory to your path. export PATH="directory:$PATH" - but your programs should be in standard directories anyway (if you add your own, either /usr/local or /opt)04:10
coolpaul900<ubuntero22> Do you have enough ram?04:10
ubuntero22ye04:10
ubuntero22yes04:11
ubuntero22actually i dont have the problem in hoary04:11
coolpaul900how much?04:11
mirakcoolpaul900: aptitude -f is supposed to reveal that04:11
coolpaul900ok04:11
ubuntero22256 mb04:11
jmitchjcould someone help me with this message?..."W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.moshen.de dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY FC0A1CC62F306651"04:11
coolpaul900then you should be good04:11
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ubuntero22when installing hoary i dont have that problem04:11
LjLUbotu, please tell jmitchj about gpgerr04:11
josh__LjL: or u just add it to the /etc/environment file and no export is needed... and its global for all users...04:11
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LookTJI need help with fonts04:12
Ychanyone know a good ftp server program?04:12
LjLjosh__: guess so, thanks. still the point about standard paths remains04:12
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ubuntero22but when dapper installer loads (which loads as a live cd) i get that errors04:12
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coolpaul900hmm.. I had that happen to me04:12
josh__yeah... standard paths are great if you only need it for one user04:12
LookTJI got a zip of 6000 fonts, but don't know where to put the fonts04:12
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sticazzikevb, I can probably remote desktop to myself from the laptop, but no inbound connections - you just need that file, right?04:12
josh__Ych: proftpd04:12
coolpaul900Use the alternative disc instaed04:12
FRETLookTJ, dont install of them04:12
Ychthankyou josh__04:12
mike_aoupi: Now it did i just toke like 1 min b4 it did, sorry, Thank you!04:12
LookTJFRET: why not?04:13
coolpaul900ubuntero22> use the alternative disc04:13
LookTJI need fonts for gimp :|04:13
LjLjosh__: no i meant putting applications in /opt or /usr/local, rather than changing the path (either for the local user or using /etc/environment)04:13
JNeverMinddo you know a way to confirm im actually in(using) software raid?04:13
ubuntero22i will try paul.. thanks a lot for your help04:13
kevbsticazzi: I need that file and I need to know the password for your remote desktop, so it needs to be changed (so you don't give me your password :)04:13
coolpaul900ur welcome04:13
ubuntero22you say it worked for you right?04:13
coolpaul900yep04:13
JNeverMindmdadm --query --detail /dev/md004:13
josh__oh... yeah that is definately safer then changing the path04:13
JNeverMindSTATE: clean04:13
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JNeverMindshould i say active ?04:14
mirakcoolpaul900: I have no broken pacakges04:14
JNeverMindshould it say active instead of clean ?04:14
jribkevb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29735/04:14
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coolpaul900<ubuntero22>it might be that you have a problem with your cdrom drive04:14
coolpaul900hmm04:14
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ubuntero22ok... i will try then, do you know if efty has the same problem? i dont know if downloading dapper or efty04:14
kevbjrib: Thanks so much04:14
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josh__but in my case i do alot of scripting and testing and such so i have created a /scripts/ directory and just added that to my path to keep my applications seprate from system ones since i use a messed up naming convention also :P04:14
coolpaul900mirak: is there a solution there?04:14
jribkevb: password is foobar by the way04:14
kevbjrib: nice one!04:15
ubuntero22well... rare thing is that hoary live cd works.. and same thing with hoary instalator...04:15
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mirakcoolpaul900: where ?04:15
coolpaul900mirak: if yes I would suggest doing it04:15
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FlatsNE1 familair with Samba/SWAT for Ubuntu04:15
docmurdoes any one here know how to use the sony network walkmans on ubuntu ??? they don't take MP3's04:15
josh__samba04:15
coolpaul900on the bottum does it ask you if you want to agree with the solution then type in: !04:15
josh__whats your question04:15
OXIjcan any one help me with setup speedtouch 330 in eddy? kernel module says: "speedtch_upload_firmware: read BLOCK4 from modem failed (-110)!"04:15
OXIjand04:15
OXIj"speedtch_heavy_init: firmware upload failed (-110)!"04:15
OXIj(it is 2.6.17-10 kernel)04:15
Flatsjosh: what should the hosts allow/deny file look like in the smb.conf04:16
LookTJhow do I install fonts?04:16
Ychjosh__, you know how to use it, i'm a bit of a noob when it comes to command prompt/systemtray programs, and I installed it, but im not sure what next....04:16
jribubotu: tell LookTJ about fonts04:16
coolpaul900miraK:on the bottum does it ask you if you want to agree with the solution then type in: !04:16
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soundray!fonts | LookTJ04:16
ubotuLookTJ: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto04:16
ubotuLookTJ: No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer04:16
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Dimensionsubuntero22: .... well i have done installing on like 50 to 100 units ... till now of ubuntu ... i have got such problem often ... if you instead of live CD use Alternate cd ... u should be fine ... this only happens in live cd ( i assume the system you are using is an old one )04:16
LookTJthanks jrib04:16
kevbARF! Same problem!04:16
mikeconceptsanyone help? installing debs from seveas repro, having trouble not finding dependency called falcon04:16
kevbjrib: have you managed to vnc in yet on edgy?04:16
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MTecknologyI'm trying to connect to my server with vncviewer. It is a windows server, I set up putty to connect to the IP(of course) and set up L4800 localhost:4800 as a tunnel and tried to connect. I was able to connect and log in just fine... When I tried to connect vnc to localhosthost:4800 it couldn't connect. I'm getting the error Connection Refused What am I doing wrong?04:17
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ubuntero22ok dimensions, thanks for the help04:17
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mirakcoolpaul900: nothing is broken04:17
Dimensionsnp ubuntero2204:17
coolpaul900I know04:17
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coolpaul900mirak: But on thew bottum is there anything in red?04:17
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j2daoshFlats: i actually dont use that line at all04:18
atarinoxanybody have an idea why firefox is crashing on me after installing the flash-nonfree plugin?04:18
samihow i get rid off edgy's bootsplash in startup and shutdown04:18
atarinoxwhen i try to load a flash page04:18
Joe_SWAUHello, I am having problems booting after my laptop crashed during an update. The error I get at boot is : [17179571.21200]  Kernel panic - not syncing : VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0) [17179571.21200] 04:18
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LjLsami: /boot/grub/menu.lst - remove the "splash" kernel parameter04:18
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j2daoshi left it commented out... my router will block everyone from the outside and any computer has to know the password to log in so im fine04:18
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Dimensionsubuntero22:  i have had some units which couldn't load with ubuntu they had 256 ram and 40 Gb hdd ... but i had to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and reduce the vga size etc ... they work fine then ...04:18
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ubuntero22yes, thats like my system04:19
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j2daoshYch: basically all you do is edit your /etc/proftpd.conf file04:19
Ychok thanks04:19
varianti sit just me or is the gnome menu slow to respond?04:19
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variantis it*04:19
ubuntero22its 256 ram, 80 gb, amd at 1.5 ghz04:19
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LookTJych: or install gproftpd04:19
DimensionsJoe_SWAU: i get the same problem but with installing ubuntu not after updating ...04:19
Ychand its running all the time, right? @j2daosh04:19
soundraySince I upgraded to edgy, antialiased fonts look poor in some apps (but not in others). Have you seen this/fixed this?04:19
coolpaul900ubuntero22: do you have the right disc?04:19
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ubuntero22the easiest thing would be installing the alternate04:19
variantsoundray: I have heard of htis.. dont know what the cause is though04:19
LookTJych: yep04:19
coolpaul900ubuntero22: Ya much easier04:20
samiLjL, my kernel line is : /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash, should i remove that last word "splash"04:20
ubuntero22sorry coolpaul, what you mean with right disk? my english is terrible04:20
soundrayJoe_SWAU: from the live CD, can you mount your root partition and find the file /etc/fstab?04:20
coolpaul900ubuntero22: do you have one for AMD?04:20
Dimensionsyeah ubuntero22 because alternate one  doesn't load live cd ...should work for you as it did in dozen of times for me ... in many sistuation ...04:20
LjLsami: yes. possibly "quiet" as well, to get more text output, though i'm not sure04:20
MTecknologyI'm trying to connect to my server with vncviewer. It is a windows server, I set up putty to connect to the IP(of course) and set up L4800 localhost:4800 as a tunnel and tried to connect. I was able to connect and log in just fine... When I tried to connect vnc to localhosthost:4800 it couldn't connect. I'm getting the error Connection Refused What am I doing wrong?04:20
soundrayvariant: you don't happen to remember where you heard it?04:20
ubuntero22i dont know, i have to check that04:20
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coolpaul900ubuntero22: did you burn the disc urself?04:21
variantsoundray: in here, somone complaining abou tit :)04:21
MTecknologyyou said tit04:21
soundrayvariant: it was me, probably :(04:21
Joe_SWAUsoundray: It says unable to mount volume.04:21
ubuntero22no.. i buy the disk with windows xp installed.. then i installed hoary and did partition of 40 gb for each other04:21
noelferreiraanyone with rt61 on edgy?04:21
xroachcan anyone help?04:21
samiLjL, how about "nosplash" etc..04:21
balayhashijjss: na barra do status , tou l eu !04:22
ubuntero22when trying to install dapper it dont even load the complete thing, dont appear the spash screen04:22
jjsssim04:22
Dimensionscoolpaul900:  i have been in such situation many times with such errors with right disc .. i386 desktop ... but only in live version ...04:22
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Something about it not being a removable drive.04:22
balayhashijjss: escolhe-me !04:22
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Joe_SWAUsoundray: Do I need to mount it from the terminal?04:22
soundrayJoe_SWAU: what's the device name of the partition?04:22
soundrayJoe_SWAU: probably.04:22
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Dimensionsubuntero22:  if you try alternate ... u wont have any such errors .. i have solved that problem more than dozen times ... with alternate cd ...04:23
ubuntero22yes... actually didnt happen to me with hoary, rare thing is that using hoary live cd didnt have that error04:23
coolpaul900ubuntero22: to install I would use the alternative...it is much mch fatser04:23
xroachneed some help with edgy04:23
ubuntero22thanks a lot paul and dimensions with your help04:23
coolpaul900ur welcome04:23
soundray!metaquestion | xroach04:23
ubotuxroach: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:23
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Hehe..., ok. I will see if I can. I am a bit newbish with Linux.04:23
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ubuntero22i will download edgy alternate then...04:23
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soundrayJoe_SWAU: what's the device name of the root partition?04:23
=== Dimensions hav't used edgy though ...
j2daoshhey aoupi, what is the format for adding a second ServerRoot option to my apache conf?04:24
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Joe_SWAUsoundray: I believe It is hda104:24
xroachJust installed Edgy and now it wont boot, it loads for a while and then comes blackscreen? any idea04:24
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soundrayJoe_SWAU: no Windows on that drive?04:24
aoupij2daosh: I don't know, didn't even know it was possible :)04:24
j2daoshor rather, how can i jail webusers to a different directory other then /www/data?04:24
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Nope.04:24
LjLsami: where do you see "nosplash"?04:24
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azariasxroach, try to boot with the ubuntuCD mount yout harddrive and chech /var/log/messages to see where the problem is04:25
soundrayJoe_SWAU: try in a terminal 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt && grep hda1 /mnt/etc/fstab'04:25
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aoupij2daosh: j2daosh have a look in the vhosts04:26
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j2daoshrgr04:26
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katsu_mooooanyone know if/how to get copy/paste working in the Terminal Services client?04:26
DimensionsGuys .. i dont know some thing is wrong with mysql but when i try to access mysql with php page or try to start mysql or restart it i get this message every time .... and when i check mysqld in the location it states ... its not there either ... ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)04:26
optimusprimemy fonts look weird in Firefox2.0.....how do I change it....04:26
j2daoshno vhost file04:26
xroachazarias live cd wont boot either, same happens04:26
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soundrayDimensions: mysql is not running on your machine04:26
optimusprimeit's kinda blocky....04:26
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Ok, now what?04:26
j2daoshwell i got 2 .so and .load04:27
samiLjL, i remember that somewhere.. i think that option is available too. i dont wanna mess up my system.. iwanna be sure04:27
j2daoshneither of which im qualified to touch :P04:27
VigzillaRun from CD does not work, partion hdd and install to Drive x?04:27
MTecknologyI'm trying to connect to my server with vncviewer. It is a windows server, I set up putty to connect to the IP(of course) and set up L4800 localhost:4800 as a tunnel and tried to connect. I was able to connect and log in just fine... When I tried to connect vnc to localhosthost:4800 it couldn't connect. I'm getting the error Connection Refused What am I doing wrong?04:27
aoupij2daosh: you don't have a vhosts.d directory?04:27
j2daoshnope04:27
soundrayJoe_SWAU: do a "cat /mnt/etc/fstab" and put the output on the pastebin (see /topic)04:27
aoupij2daosh: I see, gentoo and ubuntu differs in the apache conf then04:27
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azariasxroach,  hm... how did you installed then?? there is a RAM check software on the Boot cd, I would  start a RAM check04:27
aoupij2daosh: go into the directory with httpd.conf then: grep DocumentRoot *04:28
j2daoshyeah, gentoo is more of a "compile it yourself since you think your so special" distro :P04:28
Joe_SWAUsoundray: /topic?04:28
xroachazarias Used the alternative cd, I had 6.06 and it worked but i decided to go for edgy:D04:28
soundrayMTecknology: if you keep doing the same thing, you will keep getting the same results. Reformulate the question.04:28
aoupij2daosh: DocumentRoot is what you want to change. that's gentoo in a nutshell :)04:28
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Dimensionssoundray: there is no mysqld.sock in location its telling me and when i try to start mysql with /etc/init.d/mysql start it gave the same error04:28
soundray!pastebin | Joe_SWAU04:28
ubotuJoe_SWAU: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:28
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MTecknologysoundray, how?04:28
j2daoshok ill have to add a line... there isn't one in the http.conf file04:28
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Joe_SWAUThe channel #topic?04:29
Elohimusafternoon all, wondering how I can get my laptop to use the 1280x768 resolution. It's not an option in my resolution settings. I've gotten it before, just don't remember what I did last time. -.-;;04:29
soundrayMTecknology: if you can't think of anything else, at least remove the mistakes and typos from your question.04:29
MTecknologyk04:29
soundrayJoe_SWAU: yes, that has a pastebin pointer, too.04:29
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azariasxroach,  looks to me like a kernel problem.... but it could be sth. else though04:29
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ElohimusI think I just used apt-get to install a driver and then I was all set, but I don't remember the driver name.04:30
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soundrayJoe_SWAU: no, sorry, the topic of this channel (available by typing /topic)04:30
xroachazarias so anything what I can do for it?04:30
j2daoshwell adding the line didn't work04:30
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aoupij2daosh: in /etc/apache2 is there only an httpd.conf file or are there more stuff in there?04:31
soundrayElohimus: could have been fglrx or nvidia-glx04:31
xroachazarias what should i read from var/log04:31
azariasxroach,  download the 386 or the x86 cd you shoudnt have any probs.04:31
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Ok, I just did it.04:31
joelDoes anyone know any good GUI client for MySQL?04:31
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soundrayJoe_SWAU: I need the URL04:31
azariasxroach, to check where it hangs04:31
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j2daoshthere is apache2.conf / httpd.conf / ports.conf04:31
rebecahelp04:32
Elohimussoundray: I wish I remembered. It's the Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML video card.04:32
Joe_SWAUsoundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29737/04:32
LjLsami, if you're afraid of messing up your system, then don't touch menu.lst; simply, when you boot, go into the grub menu, type "e" when you've selected your kernel line, edit it (to remove "splash"), and type "b" to boot. that way, the change will only affect that particular boot, and if it goes wrong, you can just reboot04:32
j2daoshrebeca: with what?04:32
LjLUbotu, please tell sami about grub04:32
soundrayElohimus: oh, Intel. Don't know... 915resolution or similar?04:32
soundray!915resolution04:32
ubotu915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)04:32
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rebecahelpme04:33
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:33
joel!helpme04:33
xroachazarias I think i was using the x8604:33
YchLookTJ, or j2daosh, what am i forgetting, if it shows The server is currently: Offline04:33
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spca5xx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:33
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soundray!webcam | Meta[MNB] 04:34
ubotuMeta[MNB] : webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:34
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:34
LjL!botabuse04:34
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LjLis the bot ignoring me?04:34
azariasxroach,  well this deppends on your systems, might be that you've installed the wrong kernel...04:34
kevbhas anyone successfully connected to an edgy machine using the vnc server in gnome (Remote Desktop)?04:34
soundray!botabuse04:34
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)04:34
soundrayLjL: seems so...04:34
LjL:-(04:34
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aoupij2daosh: see if there already is any DocumentRoot in any of thoose files04:35
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Did you get the URL?04:35
soundrayJoe_SWAU: no04:35
Joe_SWAUsoundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29737/04:35
j2daoshmope04:35
j2daoshnope04:35
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VigzillaURL for a first install on a newish (stoopi) XP box?04:36
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samiLjL, Thanks! :)04:36
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aileanwhere is the channel for rosetta language support?04:36
soundrayJoe_SWAU: that's fine, it doesn't explain your problem. I think the best thing to do is start over with the installation.04:36
termleechdoes anyone here have ubuntu working on two monitors with fglrx?04:36
termleechcause i'm racking my brains and can't get it to work04:36
aoupij2daosh: are you sure thoose are all that is in /etc/apache2? no other directories?04:37
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termleechi can get dual monitors with ati and radeon but not fglrx04:37
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termleechand i'd really like the direct rending as it speeds things up a lot04:37
angeloedgy doesn't download the updates...04:37
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Joe_SWAUsoundray: So, if I ever update my computer, and it powers off during the update, I will just have to reinstall the whole thing?04:37
azurealdid you guys find that the comprehensive sound guide just doesnt work...and in fact breaks your sound?04:37
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LjLazureal: which one?04:37
azureal^^  i mean this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20544904:37
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aoupij2daosh: and since you change Listen in httpd.conf, I suggest you change it in ports.conf instead seems like that is the way ubuntu wants it04:37
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termleechi'm running ubuntu edgy BTW04:37
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LjLazureal: ah, well, *shrug*, forum thread... ;)04:38
rc-1why should the arcatectural design of a system precede the development for a formal specification04:38
angeloedgy doesn't download the updates...04:38
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Dimensionswhere is log file for mysql in ubuntu ?04:38
azurealLjL, sadly my recent experimentation has led me to break things04:38
Dimensionsor error log or something ?04:38
Joe_SWAUsoundray: What if there was something imortant on there? Would there be a way of recovering it?04:38
soundrayJoe_SWAU: no, this is an unusual consequence of a powercut.04:38
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azurealLjL, in my attempts to get multiple sound outputs to work simultaneously, i first managed to disable oss, and after the guide it doesnt recognize my sound card at all04:39
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soundrayJoe_SWAU: I thought you were installing rather than updating during the powercut. Okay, let's think about your problem again.04:39
livingdaylightanyone here familiar with Flickr?04:39
angeloedgy doesn't download the updates...04:39
LjLangelo, what updates?04:40
livingdaylightis Flickr cool? what is the Ubuntu consensus?04:40
aoupilivingdaylight: I find it slow :)04:40
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Dr_willislivingdaylight,  it aint near as annoying as YouTube. :)04:40
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livingdaylightaoupi: is there an open-source alternative?04:40
Dr_willisbut theres a lot of neat things to do with FLickr04:40
angeloLjL, there are available updates, but through updates-manager it doesn't download anything04:40
LaR1can anyone tell me were to get libdvdcss for amd64 ?04:41
engielivingdaylight: It has a great api04:41
LjLangelo: indeed, there are some updates from edgy-security. i could tell you how to install them manually -- i don't know why update-manager wouldn't get them, though04:41
livingdaylightDr_willis: not sure what you mean. I find youtube a great resource :)04:41
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Joe_SWAUsoundray: Yeah, I was just updating it.04:41
angeloLjL, it is working to you ?04:41
livingdaylightaoupi: so, apart from speed it is good?04:41
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livingdaylightengie: api?04:41
LjLangelo, i don't have Gnome04:41
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kevbhas anyone successfully connected to an edgy machine using the vnc server in gnome (Remote Desktop)?04:41
Dr_willislivingdaylight,  i find it to be a Cancer on the brains of the masses.. :)04:42
xopherhow do you guys suggest using ps? eg 'ps aux, ps -A' etc, to get the best (most clear) output?04:42
aoupilivingdaylight: yea, I don't upload anything to it but if it were faster I wouldn't ignore flickr links04:42
angeloLjL, i know how to install them manually however i think it's a bad issue anyway04:42
dglHi, yesterday I changed my /etc/apt/source.list to edgy and did apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. After a long download and install everything looks work fine. I turned off my computer and went to bed. Unfortunately, my computer doesnt boot up today. It stops at Running /scripts/init-bottom. Does anybody may help me?04:42
livingdaylightDr_willis: lol, is that all!?04:42
Ychis there a way to open a folder on the GUI in root mode?04:42
felicianoHi... I have beryl + Xubuntu... But I cant use the AltGr key... Do You know how fix it???04:42
angelokevb, i use that often.. it works fine04:42
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LjLangelo: indeed. but not having Gnome, i can't check this out04:42
IndyBCHow do I create a symbolic link?04:42
jpjacobsYch, gksudo nautilus (but whatch out what you do)04:42
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angeloYch, sudo nautilus /path/to/folder04:43
Dr_willislivingdaylight,  i also am amazed at how many trademark/copyright/whatever violations are there. :P  Gotta love it when a guys posts a copy of a funny comercial.. then cuts out the last bit an puts his own web site ad there.04:43
LjLIndyBC: man ln04:43
Ychthanks04:43
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kevbangelo: I am getting an authentication error using the same config from dapper, now in edgy :S04:43
IndyBCLjL: ok, thx04:43
Ychjust wanna move a file, too lazy to mv04:43
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angelokevb, strange04:43
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soundrayJoe_SWAU: this 'unknown block' error is odd. Your root partition is okay, otherwise it wouldn't mount just like that. Let's try reinstalling grub.04:43
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angeloedgy doesn't download the updates...04:43
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JNeverMindi have a default install of ubuntu server 606 how could i find out if its apache2.0 or apache 2.2 ?04:44
feryanaHi guys!!!!04:44
JNeverMind:q!04:44
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feryanaIs possible to extract a webpage (html file) and convert it to pdf??????????'04:44
soundrayJoe_SWAU: have you got the live CD booted?04:44
feryanaI tried to force it but no way04:44
Joe_SWAUThe error comes right after it uncomresses the linux kernel.04:44
sticazziferyana, it's possible to print it04:44
feryanayeah I remeber04:45
aoupiJNeverMind: go to http://127.0.0.1/ThisDoesNotExist04:45
feryanacool thanks04:45
feryanai think that I have the software04:45
feryanaon printers04:45
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aoupiJNeverMind: look at the server info there04:45
engielivingdaylight: For fiddling with your photos from python! I've put together a couple of fun little tools04:45
feryanawith postscript???04:45
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feryanaI dont find the file04:45
livingdaylightDr_willis: d'you hear the news about myspace? they gonna use this software that apple uses so people can't use illegal media04:45
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Joe_SWAUsoundray: Yes, I have the live CD booted, but the error comes after grub has done it's thing, and the linux kernel is uncompressed. (It is the line right after that uncompressing linux kernel message.04:46
sontekDo you guys know if there is a better way of refreshing the gnome network manager wireless networks than restarting dbus?04:46
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feryanasticazzi how I do that??? I thought that was with postscript, but I don't find the file04:47
soundrayJoe_SWAU: my suspicion is that grub is using a wrong root parameter to the kernel. Do you want to try my suggestion? The other thing you could do is let me have a look at your /boot/grub/menu.lst (on pastebin)04:47
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Ok.04:48
soundrayJoe_SWAU: that's /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst if you've mounted the HD from the live CD04:48
termleechcan anyone help me getting dual head set up under fglrx and ubuntu edgy for xorg04:48
termleechi'm banging my head here04:48
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Joe_SWAUsoundray: How do I open that file?04:49
snoopsferyana yep, quite a few html to pdf converters about.. not sure of anything in specific... but googling for html to pdf linux is a start. I made a small html to pdf converter for a project once..but it was specific to them04:49
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Dr_willislivingdaylight,  yea.. i imagine the disaster that will be.. :) since from what ive seen all the  'legal' videos are peoples home movies of their pets.04:49
Joe_SWAUsoundray: What text editor do I use?04:49
FlatsIn my smb.conf file. I want allow all PC's on the 192.168.1.XXX network. What should my hosts allow format look like? 192.168.1?04:49
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dglHi, yesterday I changed my /etc/apt/source.list to edgy and did apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. After a long download and installation everything looks work fine. I turned off my computer and went to bed. Unfortunately, my computer does not boot up today. It stops at Running /scripts/init-bottom. Does anybody may help me?04:49
feryanasnoops, I can print it into a pdf file, but I don't see the pdf printer I can see "Make a pdf file" but doesn't appear on the print options of firefox04:50
soundrayJoe_SWAU: cat /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst will display the file in the terminal04:50
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livingdaylightDr_willis: indeed, that'll be all thats left. As all the music and legal stuff won't be allowed. Welcome to the DRM  generation!04:51
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dob1can the ubuntu installer boot and recognize a sata hdd ?04:51
dob1i have some problem with it04:51
snoopsDr_willis, on youtube there's about 2 or 3 people I regularly watch, and they're witty, intelligent, and provide a great piece of entertainment..it's the same with blogs.. Most blogs suck, as do most home videos.. if you spend awhile finding the good stuff, it's well worth it04:51
Cyril__hi04:51
Joe_SWAUsoundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29742/04:52
Dr_willislivingdaylight,  personally ive been going to the 'adult swim' site - and watching shows legally. :) better quality also.04:52
aoupilivingdaylight: more like: welcome to the piracy generation04:52
feryanaI think I got it04:52
Ychhmmmm i get an error when i try to run openftpd:  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'localhost' error: Name or service not known04:52
Ychanyone know what this means?04:52
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livingdaylightaoupi: piractes are being exterminated04:52
aoupiYch: that shouldn't matter04:52
feryanais firefox fault, coz with Konqueror I can do it04:53
Ychok good04:53
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xamoxif a package went into a config mode when I did an apt-get install, how can I make that config pop up again. I know I have done it before, but I don't remember the command04:53
Dr_willissnoops,  bah! i spend all my time exploring "SecondLive" trying to find ANYTHING worth doing on it.  :)04:53
aoupilivingdaylight: no, not even close04:53
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Ychthanks aoupi04:53
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Cyril__I upgrade to edgy using the edgy install CD, an internet connection and the 'gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" ' command, but it stops while downloading04:53
rausb0xamox: dpkg-reconfigure packagename04:53
soundrayJoe_SWAU: nothing obviously wrong in there. Do a 'sudo grub' and enter 'root (hd0,0)', then 'setup (hd0)'04:54
xamoxrausb0:  alright, thx.04:54
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Stusiohi all04:54
Cyril__how can I continue ?04:54
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snoopsDr_willis oh gosh..I've been fighting an urge to get into secondlife04:54
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Dr_willissnoops,  i read a artical about the Weather Service (NOAA) having a neat second life 'exibit' so i go .. and cant find it...04:55
livingdaylightaoupi: then i'm hanging out with the wrong crowd! can i join your gang? :p04:55
Dr_willissnoops,  its amazing what a mess it is.04:55
aoupilivingdaylight: sure :)04:55
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Dr_willissnoops,  the Linux SecondLife client seems to work  decently for me however.04:55
Joe_SWAUsoundray: It says it succeeded.04:55
Stusiowho can help me whit eciadsl?04:55
soundrayJoe_SWAU: great. Type quit and reboot from the HD.04:55
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aoupilivingdaylight: I'll stop pirating when I can buy movies cheaply that are high quality and no DRM, same for music04:56
livingdaylightDr_willis: checking out adult swim site - a first -hrmmm04:56
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Joe_SWAUsoundray: Ok, thanks will do.04:56
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Dr_willislivingdaylight,  yea the 'adult swim fix' is the site that has the shows..04:56
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xopherfast question, how can I extract all the zip files in a dir with one command?04:56
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Dr_willislivingdaylight,   it should work if ya got all the right plugins/packages/players installed. :)04:56
soundrayxopher: for i in *.zip ; do unzip $i ; done04:56
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Dr_willisxopher,  unzip "*.zip"04:56
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feryanasnoops. I got it, is easy, you must browse with Konqueror, then just click on print and select "To a PDF file" and wuala! I don't know if is my faoult or firefox's but on it, I can't do it04:57
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Dr_willisi think also works.. unzip was one of the FEW programs ive seen that use wildcards that way. (or it used to)04:57
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snoopscool feryana04:57
rausb0Dr_willis: it does. however, this is very un-unixish04:57
xopherthanks04:57
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feryanatake it for your notes if someone ask in the future :)04:57
CarinArrhey, is anyone else having problems with azureus being EXTREMELY slow? i haven't really used it before so i'm not sure if it's normal04:57
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Dr_willisrausb0,  yea.. it suprised me also. :P04:58
feryanathis gonna save me tones of ink :D04:58
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CarinArrand i'm not talking download speeds.. it's been checking a file tht was part downloaded for over an hour04:58
aoupiCarinArr: it uses lots of RAM, if you don't have lots of ram it'll be very slow04:58
livingdaylightDr_willis: hrmmm....tricky...what do i need?04:58
CarinArri have a gig..04:58
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josh__whats up guys (and girls)? i need to fix my fstab and my mounts so that people other then root can read/write/execute stuff on a disk i use for backups04:58
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josh__it is owned by root and devplug is the group04:59
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Dr_willislivingdaylight,  well im not sure.. I isntalled a bunch of players/xine/mplayer/vlc/plugins and w32codecs on edgy.. then noticed the site worked. :) on my old dapper install i never did get it working04:59
LjLUbotu, please tell josh__, about windowsdrives don't be misled by the fact that this focuses on Windows partition - it should contain the information you need04:59
LjLwhops04:59
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LjL!windowsdrives04:59
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse04:59
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samu2What commands can you use to format a disk?05:00
rausb0Dr_willis: zip/unzip are not exactly unix tools. they were developed as a GPL'd alternative to pkzip/pkunzip under ms-dos.05:00
LjLsamu2: man mkfs05:00
livingdaylightDr_willis: well, i do have w32codecs and totem-xine with libxine-extracodecs but so far nothing is working05:00
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samu2LjL ok, i'll check it out, thanks05:00
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Dr_willislivingdaylight,  im not even sure what the site plays with onmy system - let me see05:00
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livingdaylightDr_willis: one of them is not liking my version of flash. but i haven't got my head round upgrading to flash9beta and using the ole regular flash7 is it?05:02
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SkidHi guys, I've some EM64T hardware.. looking for a server install, is this supported in the XMD64 release?05:02
kevbangelo: I found this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/6579505:02
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mcaylandhi everyone, using Ubuntu 6.06 with all the latest updates and i can't install the firefox-dom-inspector package to help developer web pages. i get the following error:05:03
Dr_willislivingdaylight,  that may be it.. but i dident thinlthe movies were in flash.. it may be the controls are.. i am using flash905:03
[ANF] MasterNinjaim switching to suse ubuntu is giving me to much heart ache05:03
LjL!pastebin | mcayland05:03
ubotumcayland: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:03
angelohave you tried using interactive auth ?05:03
Dr_willislivingdaylight,  you jinxed me! its not working now!05:03
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soundray[ANF] MasterNinja: wish you better luck with Suse then ;)05:03
Dr_willislivingdaylight,  there we go..  i clicked on a link at the right side  and it started playing05:04
jmeunierquestion from a newbie:  I am trying to install on a p4 with 256mb memory.  It is freezing after selecting the language. any ideas05:04
[ANF] MasterNinjathx i really gave Ubuntu ago but its not for me05:04
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kevbangelo: What is that, is that where it asks if I want to accept connection?05:04
mcaylandhere is the error message trying to install firefox-dom-inspector: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29744/05:04
iqonwhat's the keyboard shortcut to increase/decrease screen resolution?05:04
angelokevb, yes05:04
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kevbangelo: I'm not at the machine : )05:04
[ANF] MasterNinjabut this irc is full of really helpful people05:04
LjLmcayland: well, being just one line you could have pasted it here. mine was just preventative action ;)05:04
kevbangelo: Its miles away : )05:04
manchicken_Anybody here run vmware in x86-64?05:04
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angelokevb, i understand..05:05
[ANF] MasterNinjathx for your support everybody05:05
Joe_SWAUsoundray: That didn't work. Still same error.05:05
Dr_willislivingdaylight,  using...  Totem Mozilla Plugin 2.16.2  Movie Player using xine-lib version 1.1.205:05
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LjLmcayland, have you installed a third-party version of firefox?05:05
soundraymcayland: did you run 'sudo apt-get update' before that?05:05
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soundrayJoe_SWAU: too bad. Did you look at the messages up to that error?05:05
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ACSpike[Work] is there anywhere I can find a current status of network-manager with wpa as it relates to edgy?05:05
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ACSpike[Work] I see a lot of mixed messages. half say it works out of the box, half say no. most refer to older releases.05:06
jmeunierquestion from a newbie:  I am trying to install on a p4 with 256mb memory.  It is freezing after selecting the language. also noticed that it is not using disk swap when running from CD05:06
LjLmcayland, actually, i believe you have enabled Universe but not in the edgy-updates and edgy-security repositories, so the versions now mismatch05:06
LjLmcayland: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list05:06
manchicken_Anybody?  Vmware on x86-64?05:06
Joe_SWAUsoundray: The message directly before it is the one that says "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel." Then it gives the error.05:06
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mcaylandLjL: lol everybody loves netiquette. ok will check my /etc/apt/sources.list...05:07
soundrayJoe_SWAU: are you back on the live CD right now?05:07
Joe_SWAUYes.05:07
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angelokevb, however there is a debdiff in that bug.. if you know how to use that05:08
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mcaylandLjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29745/05:08
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soundrayJoe_SWAU: 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt && chroot /mnt bash' -- you should get a new prompt.05:08
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FlatsHmmm I now have hosts allow = 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 in my smb.conf file however when I try to start SWAT via http://localhost:901 I still get 403 Forbidden Check your hosts allow and hosts deny in smb.conf05:08
LjLmcayland, yes, it was probably what i was thinking. hold on, i'll give you a fixed version05:08
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FlatsBTW my PCs are all 192.168.1.XXX05:09
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noelferreirahi people anyone with rt61 in edgy?05:09
Flats!swat05:09
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:09
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beastyis the nvidia-glx package broken ?05:09
mcaylandLjL: Great! TIA :)05:10
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jmeunierPlease help question from a newbie:  I am trying to install on a p4 with 256mb memory.  It is freezing after selecting the language. also noticed that it is not using disk swap when running from CD.  Any ideas on why it would freeze?05:10
Joe_SWAUsoundray: It says that the Operation is not permitted.05:10
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optimusprimehi I'm having a bit of a problem here.....the GDM menu and all that other important stuff are missing05:10
optimusprimelike Users and Groups....and all that05:10
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soundrayJoe_SWAU: 'sudo chroot /mnt/ bash'05:11
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Joe_SWAUsoundray: Ohh.., hehe. :-)05:11
optimusprimethis problem seem to have started when I added a new user....05:11
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Ok.05:11
fegis it possible to modify the number of scroll lines in gnome-terminal?05:11
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protocol1is there a way I can bypass my password on bootup?05:12
soundrayJoe_SWAU: now try a 'sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.15*deb'05:12
manchicken_I'm having some serious trouble with 32-bit apps in this 64-bit environment.  Can anybody help?  vmware won't even install right now.05:12
LjLmcayland, here. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29747/  <-- remember that when you enable universe and/or multiverse, you should *always* also enable them in the -updates and -security repositories05:12
optimusprimeanyone?05:12
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LjLmcayland: now type "sudo apt-get update" after changing your sources.list05:12
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atarinoxcan somebody recommend a firefox alternative for xfce?05:12
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atarinoxsomething fast05:13
atarinoxpreferably05:13
Lo_Panelinks05:13
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protocol1is there a way I can bypass my password on bootup?05:13
LjLatarinox: links205:13
soundray!links | atarinox05:13
ubotulinks: Character mode WWW browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 936 kB05:13
optimusprimeswiftfox?05:13
LjLsoundray, links2 is graphical though ;P05:13
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soundrayLjL: wow! ;)05:13
rausb0atarinox: i prefer w3m as console www browser05:13
Joe_SWAUsoundray: it says "Unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()."05:14
aragorn_elessarhi at all!05:14
LjLsoundray: no, seriously. it's a good browser for X if you want to actually use a graphical and very fast browser. try "links2 -g" -- without the "-g" option it's mostly just like elinks05:14
xopherallirght, another quick one, how do I make files extract to the folder the archive is, crushing directory structure inside the archive?05:14
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soundrayLjL: will have a go05:14
gooseprotocol1: check system>administration>login window05:14
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Joe_SWAUsoundray: should that have been .deb or *deb?05:14
rausb0LjL: dillo is also fast, but missing some features05:15
soundrayJoe_SWAU: sorry, I'm out of ideas. *deb was correct05:15
Ychwhats a good code editor, with colors and the like, but not in console, since i like to use my mouse?05:15
jmeunierOK quick question, how can you set up virtual memory or disk swap?05:15
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LjLsoundray: and additionally it *should* also work graphically using svgalib or the framebuffer or DirectFB, although here by default it doesn't really05:15
fegjmeunier, mkswap05:15
atarinoxWhat about Epiphany? how would that work for xfce?05:15
NigelSYch: I quite like kate05:15
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Hehe, ok. Thanks.05:15
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atarinoxshould I stick to gtk?05:15
soundrayJoe_SWAU: have you tried recovery mode?05:15
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LjLrausb0: links2 is not exactly full featured either. yeah, i guess dillo is another decent choice05:15
psychicIs there a point-and-click way of getting an Alcatel Speedtouch USB modem working in Edgy?  I know there isn't in Dapper, but I'm not sure about this new version.05:16
aragorn_elessarthere is a way to avoid that the partitions of windows appear on the desktop?05:16
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soundrayJoe_SWAU: strike that out, it won't work.05:16
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goosehey guys  I have a problem after my upgrade to edgy. the software updates program no longer shows the 'show updates'  window05:16
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Joe_SWAUsoundray: It gave me an error when I tried it. Hehe, ok.05:16
jmeunierfeg: thx05:16
fegaragorn_elessar, remove them fron /etc/fstab05:16
LjLatarinox, well, epiphany still uses the Firefox rendering engine05:16
soundrayJoe_SWAU: have you got an older kernel in the grub menu?05:16
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Joe_SWAUsoundray: I don't know.05:16
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fegaragorn_elessar, or better...comment them05:16
soundrayJoe_SWAU: hold on...05:17
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aragorn_elessarfeg: hi! But in this way ubuntu doesn't mount them at all...05:17
LjLatarinox, i'd try, in order of preference, dillo / links2 -g / epiphany, i think05:17
atarinoxah. well i'm having trouble getting this firefox flash plugin to work...keeps crashing on me...so i'm hoping switching browsers might solve it05:17
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fegaragorn_elessar, yup! if you want them available but not visible on the desktop, maybe there a gconf entry to do that05:17
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Joe_SWAUsoundray: From this point I would be able to back up documents and the like though. Correct? Since the drive is mounted. I would be able to go in and back up document 'n the like to a usb drive, or floppy drivers or what ever.05:18
soundrayJoe_SWAU: yes, you do. In the grub menu, select the third option. If that works, try the dpkg -i command I gave you earlier05:18
Joe_SWAUFrom the Live CD menu?05:18
soundrayJoe_SWAU: yes, you can do that.05:18
soundrayJoe_SWAU: no, from the HD boot grub menu05:18
psychicWill Feisty have better support for USB modems?05:18
LjLatarinox: then the kind of things we've suggested are probably not a good solution for your problem (but then i feel you misstated your problem a little)05:19
Joe_SWAUsoundray: I don't get a boot menu.05:19
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mcaylandLjL: sorry about the delay, paste server was down :(05:19
mcaylandLjL: Yup looks like it's working. Thanks very much!05:19
Joe_SWAUsoundray: It just boots. As far as I can tell.05:19
soundrayJoe_SWAU: watch the boot messages, there should be something like "Press ESC for grub menu"05:19
mirakis there graphicall differences between ubuntu and debian or are all gui tools common to both distributions ?05:20
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Ahh.., ok. So the third selection.05:20
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atarinoxyeah. well everything seems in order, i'm using the flash 9.0 beta plugin, and the about:plugins agrees...dont know waht the problem is05:20
pianoboy3333Anyone also think that lockinb packages doesn't work with synaptic in edgy?05:20
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pianoboy3333*locking05:20
LookTJmight go back to windows05:20
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aragorn_elessarfeg: now I search , thanks for the answer!05:21
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soundrayJoe_SWAU: the reinstall command for the kernel then is 'sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.15-27-386*deb'05:21
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rycardyxalguem aqui mexe com python?05:22
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soundray!es05:22
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:22
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Thanks for your help. :-)05:22
quintinSomeone tell me why gnome-cups-icon is taking up all my cpu time?05:22
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Nickle0de0nhi, i am trying to encode mpeg (for VCD pal/ntsc). should i download mjpeg tools? thats the only one i can find using apt-cache search05:22
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digitalhav0canyone know how to get a on screen keyboard on ubuntu?05:23
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quintindigitalhav0c: gok05:23
digitalhav0cor a way i can enter text when im in tablet mode05:23
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engieNickle0de0n: Have a look at ffmpeg. That may be what you want05:23
digitalhav0cthanks quintin05:23
quintindigitalhav0c: sytem > prefs > assistive technology05:23
Ayabara_someone helped me find a patch to the kernel in dapper that doesn't seem to be in edgy. I use a Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop with media keys on the front. when I plug in headphones I want the media keys to control headphone volume instead of speaker volume. this doesn't work in edgy.05:24
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Ayabara_puhh. that was a bad explanation. anyone understand?05:24
LjL!browsers | soundray, i've changed the factoid to make it a bit more comprehensive05:24
ubotusoundray, i've changed the factoid to make it a bit more comprehensive: Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache205:24
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xopherHow could I add the file-extensions r00-r99 to this script, the clean way..? http://pastie.caboo.se/2065305:24
quintinHow do I make firefox not so slow?05:24
soundrayLjL: cool05:25
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ACETACEquick question... for hardcore grep users.... what should be a pattern string that matches any ip address for grep?05:25
Nickle0de0nengie: I'd need to do more i presume- splitting it so that i can write it to 700MB cds.05:25
Nickle0de0nthe source file is in avi- i think mpeg405:25
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abzehow can i install opera 9.03 when apt-get tels me i have the newest, and i have 9.00 installed?05:25
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soundrayxopher: *.r[0-9] [0-9] 05:26
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jpjacobshi! i've made a .deb myself, how can i have dpkg add some dir to the users $PATH when installing the package?05:26
ACETACEabze, i think you have to wait for the latest opera to be added in the pool?05:26
abzeok thanx ace05:26
pianoboy3333jpjacobs: you don't05:26
HeathenDanabze, 9.03 isn't out yet. and there is always lag between release and availability in repositories05:26
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abzeok, thought so05:26
pianoboy3333jpjacobs: you declare how the deb installs when compiling the deb05:26
ryjaxhello all05:26
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xophersoundray, *bows*05:27
soundrayjpjacobs: that's not recommended. Make your package install executables to standard paths05:27
ACETACEquick question... for hardcore regEX users.... what should be a pattern string that matches any ip address for grep?05:27
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abzemaybe i can find it out there in another formate then ;) like some tarball thingy?05:27
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HeathenDanif you can't wait, opera always has .deb files for you... cause even their repositories can take days before updating05:27
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asboa question regarding the install on edgy05:28
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abzeill use google and see what i find, hope its not to hard to install05:28
asbocan i killall this dosfsck as its been running for 1 and a half hours05:28
pianoboy3333Does anyone know where I can pick up debs for gaim 2.0.0 beta 4?05:28
asboand will it fuck my install if i do05:28
asbo?05:28
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jpjacobsok thx.05:28
samu2So you can basically do mkfs /dev/hdb and it will format that hard drive and just make it one big partition?05:28
LjL!language | asbo05:28
ubotuasbo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:28
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asboups sorry05:29
TooTallJones#uti05:29
asbo:)05:29
asboa little frustrated sorry05:29
HeathenDandoes the installer run dosfsck? i didn't notice if it did05:29
quintinyea, somehow I doubt there are any little kids in here05:29
quintin'family-friendly'05:29
quintinwhat a joke.05:29
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josh__it is owned by root and devplug is the group... chmod 777 and chown josh05:29
Skidsomeone's son may be reading the channel05:29
josh__dont work either05:29
dcravenquintin, some of us are easily offended.05:29
quintinSkid: yea, I doubt that.05:29
quintindcraven: then some of you need to grow thicker skin.05:30
LjLACETACE: "\([[:digit:] ] \{1,3\}\.\)\{3\}[[:digit:] ] \{1,3\}"05:30
soundrayasbo: there you have your anti-social behaviour order... your install should be okay, but the dosfs may or may not work after killing dosfsck05:30
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dcravenquintin, or the rest of you could obey the rules ;)05:30
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quintindcraven: or you could eat me! :P05:30
dcravenNice.05:30
asbosoundray: i cannot ruin the dosfs05:30
AgrajagSome people have thin skin and ears that bleed at the mention of any four-letter word. But, they're just as welcome as everyone else here, and they need to feel welcome.05:30
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asbomajor important05:30
josh__quintin: or you can just stop being a douche05:30
LjLACETACE: it will also match some things that aren't IP addresses though, such as 456.234.393.405:30
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quintin!language | josh__05:31
ubotujosh__: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:31
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quintintsk tsk..05:31
josh__personally i think it would be easier just to have you change instead of everyone else05:31
LjL!offtopic05:31
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!05:31
Joe_SWAUsoundray: That worked. Thanks a lot. :-)05:31
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soundrayJoe_SWAU: hooray. Did you do the dpkg step, too?05:31
quintinjosh__: I'm not trying to get anyone to change.  I'm just saying I think it is stupid and pointless.05:31
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Drac|SchoolI've just installed the nVidia beta driver on Dapper and X complains that the kernel module is older than the X module. How can I update/replace the kernel module? Where are the two located?05:32
LjLquintin: you're entitled to that opinion -- in #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)05:32
asbo40 gig fat partition should not take 100 minutes + to check SHOULD IT?05:32
josh__anyway, what is the mount command to allow all users access to a disk that sotres backups?05:32
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surfhaijosh__, umask=00005:32
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Yes. It wouldn't let me use the Update Manager otherwise.05:32
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soundrayJoe_SWAU: okay, and did you reboot back into the -27 kernel then?05:33
xophersoundray, what would be the most efficient way of learning all that? Like how to replace, how to search for a specific pattern in a file etc05:33
ACETACEthanks LjL i will give it a try05:33
feryanaI copied 45 DvD's yesterday with Linux Ubuntu and I placed it as "for free" in the entrance of my IT store :D Some customers took cd's :P (all explained inside the case "how to use the live CD" :D05:33
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skmidryI have an ADSL connection, my resolv.conf entries disappear after 1 hour of connection being established - I'm using Dapper05:33
quintinasbo: no.05:33
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Ummm.., no. It did say it set it up, and everything.05:33
ACETACELjL, thanks i'll give it a try05:33
abzeits not able to download opera for edgy, can i download the tar.gz then, and install from there?05:33
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LjLUbotu, please tell abze about opera05:33
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fusspilsI've just installed Ubuntu 6.10, is there any easy way to get dual monitors running on a geforce 7300GT?05:33
Joe_SWAUsoundray: I can reboot to check it out. I think it is all good now though. :-)05:33
quintinskmidry: search on ubuntuforums.org for '/etc/resolv.conf'05:34
soundrayxopher: I personally follow a "just-in-time" learning approach as opposed to "just-in-case". Most of what I need, I find in examples on ABS (Advanced Bash Scripting guide)05:34
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feryanais very cool viewing people rejecting windows from their pc's05:34
Drac|SchoolCan somebody tell me where the kernel nvidia module is located? I need to update it.05:34
quintinoh my god05:34
quintinyou say 'please' to the bot.05:34
quintinfdl05:34
Drac|SchoolActually, I know where the kernel module is. I need to know where the X module is.05:34
LjLsoundray, xopher: definitely agreed, when we're talking about shell fiddling.05:34
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Thanks. :-) Bye. :-)05:34
soundrayJoe_SWAU: I think so, too. If all else fails, you can always boot into -26 again05:35
xopherAllright, going to have a look at ABS then. Thanks again05:35
LjLquintin: fdl?05:35
Joe_SWAUsoundray: Hehe, yeah. I think it just powered down during the kernel update. ;-)05:35
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quintinLjL: sudo apt-get install wtf && wtf fdl05:35
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soundrayJoe_SWAU: must have done. Very bad luck. You're up for a lucky streak now ;)05:36
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errris it possible to not boot the install disk into live mode?? I want to install but live mode will not work on my laptop for some reason05:36
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soundrayerrr: no, you'll have to get the alternate CD05:36
quintinerrr: there is an alternate install disc.  not sure if the regular one has text-only or not05:36
soundrayCheers guys05:37
quintinerrr: you could also try to configure x then restart it05:37
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errrsoundray: what if I have fc5 on it now, is it possible to d/l something minimal and do a net type install?05:37
LjLquintin, i still don't know what fdl means. if it's an insult, though, perhaps keep it to yourself next time...05:37
erUSULDrac|School: uninstall the module with apt and then install it using the up to date nvidia installer05:37
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quintinLjL: I'm telling you how to get a definition for it.05:37
Drac|SchoolerUSUL: That's what I did...05:37
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quintinLjL: ...05:37
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LjLquintin, package wtf does not exist.05:38
errrquintin: ah ok, how would I do that??05:38
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Paddy_EIRE!ati05:38
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:38
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josh__adding a umask=000 didn't fix it... the drives still cant be written to by anyone other then root05:39
mirakdoes hibernation works for you ?05:39
chapiumis there a gnome equivalent to xmessage?05:39
quintinerrr: ctrl+alt+f2 to go to that console05:39
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quintinerrr: then do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:39
errrquintin: ah then by restart you mean just restart X then05:39
quintinerrr: advise just using vesa driver05:39
quintinerrr: after you configure it, yes.05:39
errrquintin: ok, thanks05:40
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LjLjosh__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#head-2a64a964ff8833576586c7216a1199f022c505a6 - i'd give you more to the point information, if i remembered it.05:40
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quintin-o rw always is helpful.05:40
Paddy_EIREhow can I check to see if ubuntu is using xorg display drivers or xfree86??05:40
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Drac|SchoolerUSUL: *poke*05:40
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Drac|SchoolerUSUL: I never had it installed with apt.05:40
earthian!info dmraid05:40
ubotudmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 117 kB, installed size 460 kB05:40
earthian:'(05:40
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LjLquintin: well, yes, but i'd guess it's also default, isn't it?05:41
erUSULDrac|School: so what are yo trying to do now?05:41
Drac|SchoolerUSUL: I already told you my problem. -_-05:41
quintinLjL: don't use pronouns without better reference... what is 'it' ?05:41
LjLquintin: "-w     Mount the file system read/write. This is the default. A synonym is -o rw."05:41
Drac|SchoolerUSUL: X complains that the kernel module is older than the X module, which it is. How can I update the kernel module?05:41
kevbkeescook: Hi can you help me I'm having the problem with vino described here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/65795 that you posted on.05:41
Paddy_EIREhow do I check to see if direct rendering is enabled under the "ati" driver05:42
quintinLjL: I don't think they are mounted rw by default in ubuntu with mount command.  not 100% sure05:42
keescookkevb: what can I help with?05:42
quintinPaddy_EIRE: glxinfo | grep Rendering05:42
Paddy_EIREquintin: thx05:42
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LjLquintin: could be, in that case it'd be a documentation bug though05:42
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quintinstill no one tells me how to make firefox not totally suck05:42
Paddy_EIREquintin: it just goes on to the next line05:43
erUSULDrac|School: i have the same driver instaled here (with a custom kernel though) and see no complaints from X... the nvidia instaler should have replaced both05:43
kevbkeescook: I wasn't sure what the thread was saying. I don't know if it is fixed or not and how to apply said fix.05:43
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quintinPaddy_EIRE: glx info | grep ender05:43
keescookkevb: a fix was discovered, and is making its way through the "stable release" channels now.05:43
Drac|SchoolerUSUL: X launches without complaints when I first install it, but after reboot it has this problem05:43
optimusprimeI'm trying to update and I can't...."sudo apt-get" doesn't work05:43
kevbkeescook: any way to apply it now?05:43
ACETACELjL, YESS it works~~~~~ thanks05:44
eXSiRmay be it is "glxinfo | grep render"05:44
Paddy_EIREquintin: "glx info | grep render" command not found05:44
keescookkevb: if you want to recompile it yourself, you can use the attached "debdiff".  have you done package builds before?05:44
Human_Prototypehow long is the timeout on freenode? i cant sign in as my normal user as my username is already in use05:44
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quintinPaddy_EIRE: there is no space, you donkey.  enter it like I told you to05:44
quintinPaddy_EIRE: oops!  I put in a space05:44
eXSiRmay be it is "glxinfo | grep render" :))05:45
quintinheh, I'm off today05:45
Paddy_EIREquintin: i did it both ways eehh oorrr05:45
kevbkeescook: I tried to do it earlier, I didn't use the diff debdiff I just commented line 309 in vino_prefs.c - it didn't work : )05:45
Drac|SchoolerUSUL: It even compiles the kernel module itself... I don't understand why it doesn't stick.05:45
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erUSULDrac|School: the only problem i encounterd was that i had to move the config file from $HOME to /etc/X11/ manually05:45
quintinwhat eXSiR is saying will work.05:45
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optimusprimehow do get a user to be "sudoer"05:45
Drac|SchoolerUSUL: That might do it.05:45
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keescookkevb: the reason is that there are patches to that area already, so the build probably failed.05:46
law_optimusprime:  just type sudo ?05:46
quintinoptimusprime: add them to the 'admin' group or whatever.  system > admin > users05:46
earthianoptimusprime v'isudo'05:46
Drac|SchoolerUSUL: Which config file?05:46
earthianer05:46
earthiansoz 'visudo'05:46
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kevbkeescook: I applied the current patches, modified the source then built with dpkg-buildpackage, it built the package...05:46
erUSULDrac|School: xorg.conf05:46
quintinPaddy_EIRE: so do you have DRI?05:46
optimusprimeyeah I can't....'cause I don't seem'em......05:46
optimusprimeand sudo doesn't seem to work...05:46
kevbkeescook: I've started wondering if I have a different issue altogether and maybe my build worked.05:46
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law_hi i got a problem i configured svn and want to connect with ssh , he connects and asks me for a password , but when i type it in he just asks me again (without error msg)05:46
keescookkevb: do this:   cd /tmp; apt-get source vino; cd vino-*; patch -p1 < /path/to/debdiff; debuild -uc -us; sudo dpkg -i ../vino*.deb05:46
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law_i tried to use the password db but it dont works05:47
Drac|SchoolerUSUL: That's nutty. My Xorg.conf is configured to use the nvidia module, and as long as yours was it should have worked. Copying it makes no sense. -.o05:47
optimusprimeI meant that I can't see the system admin thingy....05:47
keescookkevb: after the install, you'll have to restart your session, and hopefully that'll fix it.05:47
kevbkeescook: Thanks, I'm gonna try that now. Much appreciated :)05:47
erUSULDrac|School: for some reason i do not understand the nvidia instaler does not update the xorg.conf (it creates one in your home) and when you reboot the machine bang!!05:47
keescookkevb: okay, good luck!05:47
Paddy_EIREquintin: no direct rendering, I already tried the "fglrx" driver and it would only work if I put libGL.so.1.2 in /usr/lib...although then it stopped working again! I seen a similar bug of launchpad05:47
quintinoptimusprime: ehm.. hm?05:47
earthianoptimusprime use 'visudo' command then enter the username down there near root and use the same form as root is entered there..05:47
quintinPaddy_EIRE: Hah! :P05:47
kevbkeescook: ty, gtg but thanks05:47
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quintinPaddy_EIRE: I've been trying for some time to get DRI on i810 with no success.  sux, eh05:48
Paddy_EIREquintin: yeah05:48
erUSULDrac|School: mine was configured to my old radeon card and the instaler did not update it properly as i said05:48
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TooTallJonesWhy is my new Geforce 7600 GS 512MB graphics card only coming up as Nvidia Default card in my xorg.conf on my xubuntu/edgy? =(05:48
quintinPaddy_EIRE: which video card?05:48
Paddy_EIREquintin: radeon 925005:48
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quintinPaddy_EIRE: mm.  I think nvidia are easiest to setup for dri.  I do not do this sort of thing much though05:49
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Paddy_EIREquintin: I wish ati would take their finger out their a*s and sort this out05:49
Drac|SchoolerUSUL: Ah. I never told it to update my Xorg.conf. I figured changing the driver to "nvidia" manually was enough. I just reinstalled and let it do its thing. I'll reboot now.05:49
optimusprimeis it normal for a user not to see the "admin" stuff?....like GDM....Users and Groups05:49
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quintinPaddy_EIRE: it would be nice.  only thing you can do is write a letter or talk with your $$$ and buy intel or nvidia :(05:50
eXSiRoptimusprime: are you a super user?05:50
Mr_Pani've a problem with upgrade to ubuntu 6.10 edgy. apt return me an error processing xfonts-intl.european_1.2.1-6    Any hints?05:50
optimusprimeno05:50
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eXSiRi think  u cant see05:50
dearboywhat file is for set  java_home05:50
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Paddy_EIREquintin: can you recommend a cheap NVidia card05:50
eXSiRyou can use "su" insted of "sudo"05:50
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LjL!sudo05:51
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:51
eXSiRthan make yourself a super user with root05:51
Paddy_EIREquintin: one with around 12805:51
LjLor even not05:51
SpeEnEvening. Having some problems with edgy. Installed using the alternate cd. But when loading, x wont start. Any known problems with ATI 9800 Pro?05:51
quintinPaddy_EIRE: any geforce3 should work05:51
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Paddy_EIREquintin: are they good vram 128-25605:52
quintinPaddy_EIRE: well, maybe geforce4 ;).  spoiled brat.  I'm still impressed with my graphics blaster 512k05:52
fusspilsI've just installed Ubuntu 6.10, is there any easy way to get dual monitors running on a geforce 7300GT?05:52
quintinyou seen quake in GL mode?05:53
quintinhotness!05:53
Paddy_EIREcool05:53
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quintinfusspils: ubuntuforums.org05:53
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fusspilsquintin - Thanks05:53
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sheriffis there anyone using utorrent as a torrent application?05:54
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eyhello are linux and unix command the same????05:54
eycouse i am learning about unix command05:54
eys05:54
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Human_Prototypeey, no, but they can be very similar05:55
LjLey: mostly, yes. Linux is a POSIX compatible system.05:55
Human_Prototypeey, commands are the same05:55
Drac\SchoolerUSUL: Hey. It didn't work. Same error still. nVidia compiles the kernel module, though, like always. Where is your module located? Mine might be in the wrong place.05:55
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leafwany clues on how to list the hardware specs in gnome or in a terminal?05:55
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lagshothello ubuntu users :)05:56
eyhello lagshot can we help you?05:56
leafwlike, whether this machine has 2 processors or one (can't shut it off to find out and dmesg didn't help)05:56
Admiral_Chicagoleafw: when did you get your computer?05:56
LjLleafw: perhaps "cat /etc/cpuinfo"05:56
LjLleafw: perhaps "cat /proc/cpuinfo" i meant05:57
eXSiRleafw try adnministration tool "Dive Manager"05:57
leafwlshw seems useful ..05:57
eXSiRat gnome menu05:57
eXSiRdevice*05:57
leafwAdmiral_Chicago : I got access to it just now.05:57
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Drac\SchoolerUSUL: Where is your nvidia kernel module located?05:57
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leafweXSiR : thanks05:57
Admiral_Chicagoleafw: i mean how old is it, do you know?05:57
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kevbkeescook: thanks so much man, it works! you are a legend05:58
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lagshotey: that would be dandy, thanks for asking. I'm using the latest xubuntu live disk, and i'm curious if theres a way to specify using reiserfs for my / instead of ext3?05:58
leafwAdmiral_Chicago : about 5 year old powermac05:58
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Admiral_Chicagoleafw: it's probably PPC not 64bit05:58
keescookkevb: great!  Good to hear!  :)05:58
leafwLjL : thanks, the /proc/cpuinfo list it all05:58
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leafwyes, not a 64 for sure, but could be dual 500MHz05:58
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Wilmerare there dapper install images with a newer linux kernel available or shall i try to make one myself? :-/05:58
leafwactually, /proc/cpuinfo says "0" processor05:58
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eylagshot so you are about to install xubuntu?05:59
lagshotI've tried mkreiserfs and then installing but during the gui install the option to uncheck "reformat" is greyed05:59
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Admiral_Chicagoleafw: i'm not a gnome person, so I'm not sure05:59
lagshotey: correct05:59
eXSiRleafw: so you have 1 processor05:59
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leafwthe System Preferences Device Manager should list i all, it does.06:00
eXSiRi have 2 and command says 0 and 1 processor06:00
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leafweXSiR : hum, strange way of counting06:00
eXSiRnot my fault :P06:00
eylagshot i dont really know .i just burned the iso on cd :S06:00
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leafwI opened the side door and the heat sink is huge on the horizontal, I was hoping there'd be two06:00
Drac\SchoolerUSUL: *poke*06:00
lagshotey: alright, well thanks anyhow06:00
leafweXSiR : definitely not, thanks for the tip06:00
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eylagshot :P i am new to linux06:01
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kkrustyhi, can anyone tell me which ones better from a Laptop user's prespective; ubuntu LTS or ubuntu edgy06:02
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B-Minusheh06:03
eXSiRif you want stability dapper is perfect or if you want new programmes edgy is perfect06:03
goldsmurf /home is going to be separate.  how much space will be "enough" for / ?  Like maybe a high estimate and a mid estimate?06:03
eXSiRit is up to you kkrusty06:03
MeTawhat apt-index-watcher does? is it improtant for antoebook? i want to turn that of06:03
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thee3how can stop a drive from auto mounting at boot?06:03
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erUSULDrac\School: it shoulb be under /lib/modules/2.6.xx/06:03
lagshotthee3: edit fstab06:04
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eXSiRthee3: edit your /etc/fstab file not to mount at boot06:04
erUSULDrac\School: find /lib/modules/ -name 'nvidia*' -print06:04
Terminusgoldsmurf: doing fine with 2GB here for /. 512 would probably work if you put /tmp in a different partition.06:04
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thee3lagshot , eXSiR: yep I figured that out but exactly what do i change in it?06:04
lagshotone sec,06:05
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eXSiRlook at the driver not to mount and mark the beginning wiht #06:05
xroachwhy cant edgy just boot on my laptop,06:05
eXSiRso it wont mount next boot06:05
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xroachi've donloaded and burned too many cd's and it just wont work06:05
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lagshotstrange, the fstab looks a little different than in gentoo06:05
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eXSiR#/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       006:06
eXSiRlike this06:06
lagshotI would add a noauto to the line06:06
IcemanV9annoying problem - rhythmbox always freezed when i played S K Y . F M radio station. is it bug or there is a workaround?!06:06
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Admiral_Chicagolagshot: Edgy made changes to the Fstab, you may or may not be seeing them06:07
Admiral_ChicagoIcemanV9: you check LP?06:07
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IcemanV9Admiral_Chicago: no. will do now.06:07
poningrulagshot: for fstab you can also do according to uuid of the partition06:08
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poningruits a lot better06:08
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poningrufor things like moving the hard drive out of and into other boxen06:08
thee3lagshot, eXSiR : thank you.06:08
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macrobionas tardes06:08
erUSUL!es06:09
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:09
lagshotponingru: yeah, i'm just installing right now, all my nix background is from gentoo06:09
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macrobiosorry06:09
lagshotactually this shell is a gentoo box heh06:09
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Regurgitatori have a radeon 7000 and a 640X480 monitor, everytime i launch the unbuntu installer after the ubuntu loading screen the resolution seems to go to a faulty setting, ive already tried setting other resolutions and it didnt help06:10
poningrulagshot: hehe actually I used to be like that too..06:10
poningrutill I went to debian then ubuntu06:10
poningru!resolution | Regurgitator06:10
ubotuRegurgitator: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:10
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quintinRegurgitator: # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:10
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lagshotponingru: what made you switch?06:10
poningrulagshot: my laptop06:10
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poningrutry getting hibernate and everything working on a acpi pos06:11
lagshotponingru: heh, configuration sucking?06:11
toni have squid installed on my pc , but my windows clients are losing theirs connection each 2 minutes , could someone help me ?06:11
poningrumajorly06:11
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tonusing messanger06:11
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Dr_williston,  messenger?06:11
Regurgitator(quintin): where do i type that in? on the advanced boot options?06:11
poningruton: squid? as in the proxy?06:11
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tonyes06:12
tonponingru06:12
poningruton: please describe your setup06:12
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poningruis your box acting like a router06:12
poningru?06:12
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tonbasic configuration i let them navigate thr 3128 port06:12
Mondoshawanhi all06:12
tonyes it is actlike router06:13
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j0nAfternoon, is it safe to ask 6.10 questions here?06:13
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Admiral_Chicagoj0n: yes06:13
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Mondoshawancan somebody tell me how to install wesnoth 1.1.11 on Ubuntu 6.06 ?06:14
noobvolmarI'm have a problem, I don't now how make to get permission on desktop mode. How I do it?06:14
xroachcan someone help me to get my edgy to work?06:14
MondoshawanAbhngigkeitsprobleme verhindern Konfiguration von wesnoth:06:14
Mondoshawan wesnoth hngt ab von libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); aber:06:14
Mondoshawan  Version von libc6 auf dem System ist 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.06:14
Mondoshawan wesnoth hngt ab von libfreetype6 (>= 2.2); aber:06:14
Mondoshawan  Version von libfreetype6 auf dem System ist 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2.06:14
Mondoshawan wesnoth hngt ab von libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-12); aber:06:14
Mondoshawan  Version von libgcc1 auf dem System ist 1:4.0.3-1ubuntu5.06:14
Knowonevolmar, what exactly do you mean?06:14
Mondoshawan wesnoth hngt ab von libsdl-image1.2 (>= 1.2.5); aber:06:14
Admiral_Chicagoxroach: how di dyou update06:14
Mondoshawan  Paket libsdl-image1.2 bereitstellt, ist nicht installiert.06:14
Mondoshawan wesnoth hngt ab von libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.10-1); aber:06:14
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Mondoshawan  Version von libsdl1.2debian auf dem System ist 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu2.06:14
Mondoshawan wesnoth hngt ab von libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-12); aber:06:14
Admiral_Chicago!paste > Mondoshawan:06:14
Mondoshawan  Version von libstdc++6 auf dem System ist 4.0.3-1ubuntu5.06:14
Drac\SchoolerUSUL: The big question: Are you on Edgy or Dapper? :P06:14
noobvolmarI'm new at linux usage06:14
Admiral_ChicagoMondoshawan: stop06:15
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azurealhmm, where system startup errors stored?06:15
j0nI just installed it, but noticed it has an old version of automake (1.4-p6).. as it happens the first thing I tried to compile requires a newer version.. I'm getting the source now to compile it myself... but I just though someone should know.06:15
Admiral_Chicago!paste > Mondoshawan06:15
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Mondoshawanok06:15
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Admiral_Chicago!de06:15
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:15
Ychwhats the run command?06:15
xroachAdmiral_Chicago A fresh install from alternative cd ,because the live cd didnt boot, but now the edgy is installed and it wont boot either , comes blackscreen only06:15
DShepherdMondoshawan: make sure you have universe enabled.. and the apt-get install wesnot06:15
CondimentI'll soon find out06:15
Knowonenoobvolmar: what is it that you want to do?06:15
Admiral_Chicagoxroach: can you start x server?06:15
tonponingru06:15
DShepherdwesnoth*06:15
noobvolmarand I have installed the realplayer but the files are bolcked to move06:15
azureal /var/log/messages..?06:15
TamplerCan you give me idea about some good RSS reader for GNOME ?06:15
tonponingru yes it act like a router06:15
Ychrather, whats the hotkey for "run"06:15
Admiral_Chicagolog in and type "sudo startx"06:16
LjL!info liferea | Tampler06:16
ubotuliferea: feed aggregator for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.23-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 734 kB, installed size 2224 kB06:16
FlatsWhen in an SSH seesion I can't run Gedit? Any ideas why?06:16
xroachAdmiral_Chicago well it wont give any error but only black screen comes up06:16
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Knowonenoobvolmar: use "sudo" in front of the command to issue the command as a superuser.06:16
Admiral_Chicagoxroach: only a black screen, no log in, no text?06:16
kira_?06:16
Tamplerthanks ubotu :)06:17
paltswe channel, anyone?06:17
xroachAdmiral_Chicago nothing :D06:17
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noobvolmarok I was make this06:17
Admiral_Chicagoxroach: do you get as far as GRUB?06:17
noobvolmarbut on terminal06:17
noobvolmarand06:17
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kira_Somebody is playing battle of wesnoth06:17
kira_?06:17
xroachAdmiral_Chicago yes i can  get in recovery mode06:17
freach`have someone experience in using cedega in edgy got some problems with diablo206:17
noobvolmarif click on the file to move06:17
attiliohi, I've got problems with Dapper repo06:18
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attiliohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29754/06:18
noobvolmarit says you don't have permissions06:18
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Ychwhats the linux equivalent to CTRL + R on windows to bring up a command prompt to run one single command?06:18
Knowonetry it on the command line instead06:18
Admiral_Chicagoxroach: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in the terminal in recovery mode06:18
Admiral_Chicagoi get the impression that this is an X inssue06:18
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chadim trying to boot a winxp install in vmware from a Physical Partition ..following this guide: http://news.u32.net/articles/2006/07/18/running-vmware-on-a-physical-partition, the disk is a SATA disk..and there seems to be a problem with the drivers ..  i get as far as the "winxp loading logo" then i get a bluescreen.."remove new hw"06:19
mod^what would be a good alternative for webmin (to replace ssh and/or ftp), I only need to upload / modify files06:19
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noobvolmarbut I dont't how06:19
xroachAdmiral_Chicago and autodetect ?06:19
LjLattilio: does your internet connection work normally, besides on apt-get?06:19
lagshotmod^: whats wrong with commercial ssh and vsftpd ?06:19
LjLattilio: are you behind a home router? what's the contents of your /etc/resolv.conf?06:19
mod^it has to have webbased user interface06:19
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asbokillall dosfsck worked06:20
mod^like with "filemanager" with php06:20
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Admiral_Chicagoxroach: yea just use the default options and use simple mode06:20
asbokillall windowz users would be better but hey06:20
thee3noobvolmar: sudo mv <source> <destination>06:20
freach`Ych: System -> Preferences or Options (don't know how it is called in englisch version) -> Keyboard Shortcuts06:20
sheriffdoes anyone use Utorrent?06:20
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Knowonenoobvolmar: DO NBOT USE MV06:20
KnowoneNOT06:20
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azurealwhere's ubuntu modules.conf file?06:21
Knowonenoobvolmar: use cp instead. mv can be dangerous, especially for new users06:21
azurealor ubuntu version of it?06:21
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mod^lagshot: University has a server, and only port 80 (apache) is allowed to have access to internet06:21
optimusprimeI need help....my entire system locked me out....and it won't let me in....06:21
freach`azureal: got no one06:21
xroachAdmiral_Chicago didnt help06:21
Admiral_Chicagoxroach: really?06:21
Admiral_Chicagohmm06:21
attilioLjL, I've got a usb modem/ethernet configured via dhcp,06:21
asboazureal: locate <what your looking for>06:21
azurealfreach`, that's not good..06:21
attilioLjL, internet it's ok06:22
Admiral_Chicagoxroach: ubuntu or kubuntu?06:22
optimusprimethis all happened when I added a new user....06:22
xroachAdmiral_Chicago ubuntu 6.1006:22
LjLattilio: post your /etc/resolv.conf and your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin please06:22
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noobvolmartipe: sudo cp insetad?06:22
LjLUbotu, please tell attilio about pastebin06:22
freach`azureal: use /etc/modules or /etc/modprobe.d06:22
Admiral_Chicagoxroach: do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?06:22
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noobvolmarinstead?06:22
xroachAdmiral_Chicago yes06:22
azurealmodprobe.d is a directory...06:22
freach`sure06:22
Knowonenoobvolmar: yes, sudo cp06:22
sheriffi try to use utorrent but it gives an error like Unable to map UPnP port. so how can i fix it?06:23
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Knowonenoobvolmar: that will copy the file. then, if it works like you want, you can delete the original.06:23
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freach`azureal: there are the module files, but if you only want to load one module on startup use /etc/modules06:23
TomaszDsheriff, afaik upnp ports are 5000-5100, you have to forward them probably06:23
dom_fHi - I have a problem with the root partition not showing up in either df or mount though it is mounted - I have put further details in launchpad as support#2293.  Does anybody have the knowledge and some time to help me troubleshoot this?06:23
Admiral_Chicagoxroach: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-upgrade-common-problems-with-solutions.html06:24
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noobvolmarok I'm make this06:24
attilioLjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29756/06:25
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attilioLjL, thanks in advance06:25
samu2I posted a description of my problem on the ubuntu forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1697896#post1697896 the answer i got tells me to use the live desktop CD and use gparted. But one of the problems was that the live CD doesn't work for me. Can't I just open a terminal in rescue mode and format it with some command?06:25
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thee3sheriff: in utorrent window. options->preferences->enable Upnp mapping ?06:25
sheriffyes06:25
sheriffthee3: it is enable06:26
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j0nAdmiral_Chicago: I just installed it, but noticed it has an old version of automake (1.4-p6).. as it happens the first thing I tried to compile requires a newer version.. I'm getting the source now to compile it myself... but I just though someone should know.06:26
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LjLattilio: try changing your resolv.conf so that it reads "nameserver 212.245.255.2", and then try again the "sudo apt-get update"  (by the way, perhaps you'll want to change your mirrors from "de.archive.ubuntu.com" to "it.archive.ubuntu.com", since you appear to be on an italian ISP)06:26
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Admiral_Chicagoj0n: might want to check the repos06:26
sheriffthee3: also in wine i selected windows xp as an application06:26
Kronozwow 1033, more the #gentoo :o06:26
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sheriffthee3: it worked for the first time i tried it06:27
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attilioLjL, ok I'll try06:27
sheriffthee3: but when i rebooted the system i started not working06:27
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LjLattilio: just try the resolv.conf thing for now, switching mirrors can wait06:28
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j0nAdmiral_Chicago: OK.. I've just installed 1.9 from source, but I'll have a look anyways.06:29
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Admiral_Chicagoj0n: it's best to install stuff only in the repos, less of a chance of system breakage / unmet dependencies06:29
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LjL'specially when it's firefox and you're installing your own compile into /usr/bin06:30
attilioLjL, nothing it does'nt work :( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29757/06:31
dom_fHi - Following an upgrade to Edgy I have a problem with the root partition not showing up in either df or mount though it is mounted - I have put further details in launchpad as support#2293.  Does anybody have the knowledge and some time to help me troubleshoot this?06:31
j0nAdmiral_Chicago: I'ts a fresh (sacrifical) machine... so its not a problem for me to play06:31
attilioLjL, I've already imported gpg keys06:31
thee3sheriff: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161&highlight=utorrent+upnp06:31
Admiral_Chicagoah i love those machines06:31
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attilioLjL, I don't know why it tries to connect to localhost06:31
brenlaehi, i'm curious as to how to setup a usb joystick (Logitech, just a normal gamepad)06:32
LjLattilio, i'm unsure why it tries to connect to localhost, and on port 4001 (should be 80 i think) - are you behind a web proxy? does "echo $HTTP_PROXY" say anything?06:32
brenlaeany howto's someone could link me to?06:32
Dimensionshow do uninstall mysql ?06:32
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woohi06:32
LjLDimensions: sudo apt-get remove mysql06:32
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attilioLjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29758/06:33
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MtJBhas anyone seen my / key?06:33
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j0nAdmiral_Chicago: Thanks for the help06:34
nitalauthello guys. i've a little problem - i can't save some of my setting(i'm using 6.10 as desktop) - for example i can create new panel and drag icons there06:34
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nitalautbut afetr logoff and log on it is emty06:34
LjLattilio: ah, that's it. you have a proxy set -- i wonder why. type   export HTTP_PROXY=""06:34
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tapashttp_proxy06:34
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tapasshould be lowercase, no?06:35
LjLattilio: then try again the sudo apt-get update, it should work. but this is only a temporary patch, you need to find out where and why you have a proxy set06:35
rgahow do install PHP, Apache and mysql in Edgy?06:35
attilioLjL, with sudo before?06:35
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tapas[one of the few env vars which are lowercase] 06:35
YanchoHow can I login - the first time - as a root in ubuntu pls ?06:35
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nitalautYancho, don't do this )06:35
nitalautuse sudo06:35
LjLtapas: you have a point, though he does have it set to localhost:4001 in the uppercase version06:35
LjLattilio: no06:35
LjLattilio: try typing "echo $http_proxy" as well06:35
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Yanchothanks nitalaut06:36
tapasLjL: ah ok, i didn't follow the discussion previously. was a shot in the dark :)06:36
nitalauttry sudo bash06:36
Yanchoand how can i know what is the ip set on the pc? :)06:36
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tapasLjL: maybe some programs use the uppercase version06:36
nitalautand you'll get a root shell06:36
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tapassudo su06:36
tapasis good, too :)06:36
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LjLaaagh sudo bash and sudo su06:36
nitalautor just su -06:36
nitalaut))06:36
Yanchoa cool :) phew .. i though im logged out lol06:36
LjLplease use "sudo -i" for that06:36
gottreudoes #ubuntu+1 not exist right now since eft was jsut released?06:36
tapasnitalaut: hehe ;)06:36
tapassu - won't work no ubuntu06:36
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attilioLjL, btw I've tried export HTTP_PROXY="" and then sudo apt-get update, but it does'nt work :((06:36
LjLgottreu: good guess06:37
samu2I posted a description of my problem on the ubuntu forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1697896#post1697896 Could someone check it out please? The answer i got tells me to use the live desktop CD and use gparted. But one of the problems was that the live CD doesn't work for me. Can't I just open a terminal in rescue mode and format it with some command?06:37
nitalautyeah ??06:37
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LjLattilio: same errors?06:37
nitalauti didn't knew06:37
mirakwhen I do apt-get build-dep mythtv it says depencies can't be resolved06:37
Flamekebabhmm, is it possible to rip audio from SWF files?06:37
Fastlywhat's coming next after edgy?06:37
tapaswhich is a clue to the answer to the original question06:37
brenlaetapas, sudo root passwd06:37
LjLnitalaut: just "su -" shouldn't even work06:37
LjL!root | brenlae, tapas06:37
ubotubrenlae, tapas: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:37
nitalautguys it works06:37
nitalauti've just checked )06:37
nitalautsu -06:37
nitalautand my root password06:37
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tapasLjL: man, i know what sudo does :)06:37
attilioLjL, quite the same, I'll paste it06:37
nitalautand i became a root06:37
LjLnitalaut: that's because you have a root password set. you shouldn't have, on a normal Ubuntu install.06:37
tapasnitalaut: yes, if you have a root password, but this is ubuntu06:37
tapas)06:37
alecjwi've just crashed x; when i try to start it, it says that a security file or something's missing, can anyone help me please?06:38
nitalautah)06:38
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mirakhow can I know the build-deps for mythtv or a package ?06:38
nitalautyeah i have set it06:38
brenlaeno need to use su anyhow06:38
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gottreuso does eft support 32- and 64-bit packages in parallel?  or was that put off for a later release?06:38
nitalautsudo is better certainly06:38
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tapassudo su is useful to not have to type sudo on ebery command06:38
LjLtapas: i'm sure, but i was seeing blanket advice to use "su" and set a root password. which shouldn't be given without disclaimers and explanations to alternative possibilities (i.e. using "sudo" like Ubuntu intends people to)06:38
chadim trying to boot a winxp install in vmware from a Physical Partition ..following this guide: http://news.u32.net/articles/2006/07/18/running-vmware-on-a-physical-partition, the disk is a SATA disk..and there seems to be a problem with the drivers ..  i get as far as the "winxp loading logo" then i get a bluescreen.."remove new hw"06:38
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H0110WmanL06:39
nitalautterrible, so many questions what a mess!06:39
LjLtapas: no, "sudo -i" is useful for that. "sudo su" doesn't make much sense, since you're invoking two essentially similar commands chained, with no need for that06:39
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nitalauta lot of people use ubuntu ))06:39
tapasLjL: i didn't tell anyone to set a root password. i was justhinting at ubuntu's "quirk" to not set a root pw.. but minor important06:39
LjLmirak: apt-get build-dep <package>06:39
Dimensionshow do i install mysql with sudo apt-get install06:39
tapasLjL: right06:39
nitalautDimensions, sudo apt-get install mysql-server -)06:39
attiliohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29760/06:39
mirakLjL: what do you have for mythtv ? for it fails, it says it can't resolve deps06:39
LjLtapas: no, but brenlae did - if you notice, the bot factoid was addressed to both of you06:39
nitalautlike this i suppose06:39
attilioLjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29760/06:40
tapasLjL: yah, i was just wondering why at me, too :)06:40
tapasLjL: btw; i like sudo su 's quirkyness :)06:40
rgahow do i install PHP, Apache and mysql in Edgy?06:40
LjLmirak: because you were suggesting sudo su and similar06:40
mirakLjL: can you past me the list of deps ?06:40
DiMiTRiSHow do i backup dvds in ubuntu? Does libdvdcss2 bypass all protection on dvds such as bad sectors and invalid structure protection???06:40
LjLmirak:  dpatch libavc1394-dev libdts-dev libdvb-dev libdvdnav-dev libiec61883-0 libiec61883-dev libimlib2-dev libjack0.100.0-dev liblame-dev liblame0 liblircclient-dev libmysqlclient15-dev libraw1394-dev libungif4-dev libxv-dev libxvmc-dev libxxf86vm-dev texi2html x11proto-video-dev x11proto-xf86vidmode-dev06:40
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nitalautrga aptitude install apache 2 php4 mysql-server libapache2-mod-php406:40
tapaslike with all tools, the default setting of no passwrd makes sense in many situations..06:40
LjLmirak: do you have the *source* repositories enabled, for Universe and Multiverse as well?06:41
mirakLjL: thanks06:41
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mirakLjL: I guess, but I am checking06:41
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tapasit can run astray though i.e. if your computer forgets the date and sudo is a bit picky about timestamps06:41
Dimensionsi have reinstalled mysql-server but when i type mysql -u user -p and type my passwd after it ask it ..i get this error ... ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'filter'@'localhost' (using password: YES)06:42
mirakdeb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse06:42
mirakLjL: I have it06:42
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candybanHi guys06:42
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tapasDimensions: mysql has its own user database06:42
clearzenwhere does ubuntu store the programs it uses during startup?06:42
rganitalaut apache 2 or apache2 no space?06:42
LjLtapas: see, i'm not arguing for or against sudo, i'm just saying that it's the supported default in Ubuntu, so people should be adviced to use that (and the proper "sudo -i" command to become root for a longer time) instead being told to set a root password. the !sudo factoid is useful, since it links to a page that explains it all, and06:42
nitalautrga, apache206:42
dkrclearzen: /etc/init.d06:42
tapasDimensions: your normal pw won't work.. take a look at some mysql tutorial06:42
candybanAre there some known problems with the edgy kernel and usb ?06:42
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rganitalaut thanks06:42
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clearzendkr: thanks06:43
LjLtapas: and *also* explains how to enable root, while making it clear that you should know what you're doing if you do that06:43
candybanMy linux box won't boot anymore since it upgraded from dapper to edgy06:43
mirakLjL: E: Build-dependencies for mythtv could not be satisfied.06:43
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LjLmirak: have you run a sudo apt-get update?06:43
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candybanAre there some kernel options I can provide to skip usb?06:43
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Dimensionstapas i had created my user filter ... and i know its password too .. it also says using password yes ...06:43
LjLattilio, sorry, i missed your last paste. try also   export $http_proxy=""06:44
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LjLattilio, sorry, i missed your last paste. try also   export http_proxy=""   <-- i meant06:44
mirakLjL: yes I do that from a root shell06:44
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nitalautDimensions, try logging in with user root and emty password06:44
nitalautempty06:44
LjLmirak, *shrugh*, don't know why it says that. you have the binary repositories for universe and multiverse enabled as well, i suppose. i think you could just try running "apt-get install list-of-packages-i-gave-you"06:44
Dimensionsnitalaut:  i can login as root ...06:44
attilioLjL, thanks it works! Great!!!!06:45
nitalautah06:45
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nitalautso why don't you use something like GRANT ALL on *.* to etc06:45
Yanchohow can i set up my ip on the server . .. since it is 10.0.0.1 and this pc is 10.0.0.1 too lol - and i need to download webmin06:45
LjLattilio: yeah, now you need to find out where your proxy is set. if you're using Gnome, i can't be of much help, since i use KDE, but there should be something under System / Preferences or System / administration -- see if it's set06:45
Johnny-Khello all, got a bit of a problem trying to connect to the internet. The problem occured once I'd clicked on getting the latest upgrades for edgy (installed on the beta). Intenet was working before then however. I've posted the problem on the forums but I just wanted to see if anyone had any ideas how to solve this, the url for the thread is here: http://www.ubuntuforum.com/showthread.php?t=28820206:45
Johnny-K&highlight=sagem06:45
Dimensionsumm ... i had given permission to my user before ..06:45
b08yhey does anyone know why, nautilus cant move files to trash, if im at an different partion than the /06:45
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mirakLjL: yes I will do that06:46
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LjLattilio: i'd also try a     grep --binary-file=without-match "http_proxy\|HTTP_PROXY" ~06:46
Leminoplease help med embed openoffice in firefox. it's possible trough mozplugger, but I don't know how.06:46
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mirakapt-get autoremove doesn't work06:47
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mirakthat's always non sens06:47
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mirakit tries to remove packages you really don't want to remove06:47
LjLmirak: really? like?06:47
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mirakapt-get build-dep gxine        this wants to remove kernel-headers, and vdr-dev06:48
erikgzsay i just deleted my boot partition (rm -rf /boot/*).  how do i restore it?  i'm having trouble getting grub to reinstall because i can't figure out how to regen the stage{1,2} files06:48
LjLattilio: i'd also try a     grep --binary-file=without-match "http_proxy\|HTTP_PROXY" ~/*     <-- i meant06:48
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thinkgreenhi there, i've got a bit of a networking problem if anyone wants to take a crack at it06:48
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asbogo ahead thinkgreen06:48
LjLmirak: hm, but isn't that because of a conflict, rather than because of the autoremove feature?06:48
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attilioLjL, nothing06:48
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eyhello what command allowes me to check how many users on my computer???06:49
Leminoopenoffice in firefox, anyone?06:49
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thinkgreenalright, so for some reason my network device randomly loses its ip address,  I'm not running a dhcp server i just assign them manually06:49
LjLattilio: not in the second version either? (the first one was wrong, sorry)06:49
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mirakLjL: apt-get install -f doesn't mention any conflict06:49
asboey: who06:49
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asboey: is the command06:49
mirakLjL: well it's not the first time it's trying to do weird things06:49
asboey: or simply w will do06:49
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SLuGhello, i'm having a few problems with my recently upgraded dapper->edgy install. i can't seem to remote desktop (vnc just gives me a black screen with a mouse) and my wireless has an odd quirk, and i'm also having trouble with tsclient trying to connect to another machine.06:49
thedudeanyone know ifi t is possible to run two video cards in one machine and possibly switch back/forth or have both?06:49
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eythanks06:49
LjLmirak, here it doesn't try to remove anything. there's something strange going on. can you pastebin your sources.list please06:50
Paddy_EIREhey guys I changed the display driver entry in "xorg.conf" from "ati" to "fglrx" and now X wont start....I am now running from a livecd and wish to change the entry back to ati how can I do this06:50
mirakLjL: when I install the package to build mythtv it also tries to remvoe them06:50
asboey: no problem06:50
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attilioLjL, yes with the second one it doesn't match anything06:50
TritonXPAddy: interminal sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:50
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asboey: you can also check on there login with #- last <name of user> |more06:50
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Yanchohow can i install packages such as openssl and perl pls ?06:51
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nitalautPaddy_EIRE, mount you / first06:51
Paddy_EIRETritonX: can I do "gksudo gedit" ?06:51
TritonXpaddy: boot in recovery mode from old install06:51
asboyancho: sudo apt-cache search openssl06:51
erikgzhow can i restore my /boot/grub/stage1 and /boot/grub/stage2 files?06:51
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TritonXpaddy, cant gedit if you rX is dead06:51
Yanchothanks asbo06:51
asboyancho: sudo apt-get install <name>06:51
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Paddy_EIREoh06:51
TritonXpaddy : nano is gedit for terminal06:51
thinkgreenasbo: so after a period of time an ifconfig shows that the device just doens't have and ip address, i have to deactivate/reactive it with the gui, then it works fine for a while06:51
Paddy_EIREok06:51
erikgzpackages.ubuntu.com is basically non-functioning atm.  any ideas about stage1 and stage2?06:51
crimsunerikgz: copy them from /lib/grub/i386-pc/06:51
erikgzcrimsun: cool... let me see06:52
aMickeHi, i have some weird problems with my wirless card... The drivers, ipw3945 are installed and i can find networks but when i try to connect to my network i get "connection failed" even if the network is open, not encrypted, I have searched in the foums and on google but haven't been able to find an answear so please help me.06:52
Paddy_EIRETritonX: so I will reboot into recovery mode06:52
maxb_at_workAfter an upgrade from Dapper to Edgy, I have a *lot* of xserver-xorg-driver-* packages remaining installed for which there is no version in Edgy. Does anyone know why that is?06:52
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TritonXpaddy: and find fglrx and change it to ATI, it might not work though ... I have no experience with ATI card06:52
crimsunmaxb_at_work: we obsoleted them with xserver-xorg-video-*06:52
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asbothinkgreen: cable / adsl / wireless?06:52
SLuGamicke i think i'm having a similar problem06:52
LjLattilio: look, i don't know where those variables might have been set, and i wouldn't know where to look at in gnome (assuming it's gnome that set them)...  try going to a real console (i.e. ctrl+alt+f2, ctrl+alt+f7 to get back) and type "echo $http_proxy" and see if it's there too06:52
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TritonXpaddy: yep , in revoery mode you can repair everything06:52
TC`!network06:52
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:52
thinkgreenasbo: its dsl06:52
asboum06:53
boguhhi, is there a flash player 9 package for ubuntu?06:53
crimsunboguh: not officially.06:53
aMickethe wireless docs can't help me anymore06:53
erikgzcrimsun: do you know how to regen the ubuntu menu.lst?06:53
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TC`how to share internet to other computer while this pc is getting internet from proxy with dns..06:53
boguhcrimsun which repository? or where to get?06:53
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crimsunerikgz: grub-install06:53
thinkgreenasbo: you think it might be the modem? i just have it set up with my modem as the gateway and the ips assigned by hand06:53
crimsunboguh: install it manually06:53
attilioLjL, I'm in Xfce406:53
TritonXTC': have you tried Firestarter ?06:54
erikgzcrimsun: ahhh, perhaps that won't fail now that i have those stage1 and stage2 (grub CL works)06:54
LjLattilio: oh i see, well same thing, browse around in your xfce control panel and see if you have any proxy setting... and do try the console thing anyway06:54
asbothinkgreen: can you use dhcp06:54
asbo?06:54
azureali've decided that the comprehensive sound guide in ubuntu forums is extremely dangerous06:54
Johnny-Kdoes anyone have a few minutes to spare sorting out my modem problems?06:54
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tigerspiritHello, all.  I need direction to a source for help.  I am not a highly educated Ubuntu user, although I am learning.  I have BB (5.x) with all the updates, and am running FF as my browser.  i downloaded and installed FF2, however i seem to have a mishmash installation -- the borwser About shows it as 1.5.0.1.  When I try to install themese for 2.0, i get an error saying that they don't work...06:54
tigerspirit...in 1.5.0,.1, but when I try to install earlier themese, the error says they don't work in 2.0.  Ideally, I'd like to run 1.5 and 2 completely spearately, as I am a designer, and want to see the work in as many non-MS browsers as possible.  Any suggestions, or places on the web i can get help?06:54
crimsunazureal: of course, as are many things that can be found on the forum06:54
thinkgreenasbo: i disabled the dhcp server on my modem becuase i need to keep the same local ip for port forwarding06:54
Leminocome on, isn't this channel supposed to support newbies like me?06:54
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asbothinkgreen: indeed :)06:54
maxb_at_workcrimsun: I don't have any xserver-xorg-video-* packages installed... does that mean bits of my X installation are still using the dapper version, or just that I don't need any of those packages?06:54
thinkgreenasbo: also, the dhcp server was handing out weird DNS values (one local, one publi)06:55
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asbothinkgreen: netstat -a06:55
azurealcrimsun, that guide is...06:55
crimsunmaxb_at_work: Edgy doesn't need xserver-xorg-driver-*06:55
erikgzcrimsun: say that i have a boot partition (/dev/hda1), and i want to install grub on the MBR of hda... how do i tell grub-install "root (hd0,0); setup (hd0)" ?06:55
azurealcrimsun, it's a mix of sev. separate things06:55
rc-1 if i were to do a rinstall is there a way to save a list of packages i have and then make the rinstall redownload them?06:55
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azurealcrimsun, and combined it makes the guide dangerous06:55
TritonXanyone with a laptop with a go420... ?06:55
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thinkgreenasbo: i get a lot of output...06:55
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asbothinkgreen: netstat -a|more06:56
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crimsunerikgz: or you can use the /dev name06:56
cyziehow do i select audio channel to left or right in mplayer/realplayer like in vlc does?06:56
asbothinkgreen: i have the feeling its your modem06:56
azureali need to keep restarting just to test it...06:56
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aMickeHi, i have some weird problems with my wirless card... The drivers, ipw3945 are installed and i can find networks but when i try to connect to my network i get "connection failed" even if the network is open, not encrypted, I have searched in the foums and on google but haven't been able to find an answear so please help me.06:56
erikgzso, grub-install /dev/hda1 ?  how does that tell it to do the MBR?06:56
crimsundrop the 106:56
TC`no06:56
thinkgreenasbo: i've got a lot of connections, should i look for something in particular06:56
erikgzcrimsun: but my boot partition is /dev/hda1, my root is /dev/hda506:56
TC`!firestarter06:57
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).06:57
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crimsunerikgz: the install device is not necessarily a partition.06:57
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tritiumrc-1: dpkg --get-selections will create that list for you06:57
asbothinkgreen: forget netstat - my bad06:57
asbothinkgreen: sudo apt-get install iftop06:57
erikgzcrimsun: it's not obvious to me how grub-install figures out that the grub installation i want the MBR to point to is /dev/hda106:57
asboiftop is a network monitor06:57
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asbothinkgreen: may help with diags06:58
crimsunerikgz: then use a grub device (which I implied by the 'or')06:58
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rc-1tritium: ah ok thanks so much :) and then i could probably make a script to sudo apt-get install them somehow, right?06:58
thinkgreenasbo: installing...06:58
cpl-tnt44How can i activate some Windows Xp software on my ubuntu , is there's a simulator ?06:58
alakazamz0ri just installed the NVIDIA driver...how can i get my resolution higher than 800x600@60hz ?06:58
asbothinkgreen: needs to be run with sudo from commandline06:58
LjLUbotu, please tell cpl-tnt44 about wine06:58
asbothinkgreen: sudo iftop06:58
erikgzcrimsun: a grub device??  then doesn't grub install into the boot record of that device?  this is very opaque06:58
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dnitemy Edgy system is freezing up on random. Mouse still moves, but nothing responds to it. Keyboard seems to do nothing. This usually happens while using Firefox, but the last messages i see in the log after I hard reset the machine are 'Buffer I/O Error on device sde1, logical block 1708' 'lost page write due to I/O error on sde1' 'REISERFS: about (device sde1): Journal write error in flush_commit_list' .. Anyone know what this means or06:59
dnitehow to fix it?06:59
TritonXcpl, Activate , are you serious ?06:59
cpl-tnt44!Wine06:59
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:59
erikgzcrimsun: whatever... it's easier to try and fail, and fix it than figure this out06:59
crimsunerikgz: the man page makes it pretty clear.06:59
aMickeanyone who could help me with wlan problems?06:59
thinkgreenasbo: it runs, gives me infor about sit0, my device is eth206:59
crimsunerikgz: you can either use (0,0) or /dev/hda or /dev/hdaX06:59
asbothinkgreen: sudo iftop eth206:59
alakazamz0ri just installed the NVIDIA driver...how can i get my resolution higher than 800x600@60hz ?06:59
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cpl-tnt44THANKS GUYZ , btw is it easy to install and use ? and does my ubuntu 6.06 comes with wine ?06:59
LjLUbotu, please tell alakazamz0r about fixres06:59
dnitealakazamz0r, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:00
cpl-tnt44<<<< IS DISCOVERING A WHOLE NEW WORLD TO LINUX07:00
LjLcpl-tnt44: you have to install it, it's not in by default. "sudo apt-get install wine", after enabling Universe (at least i think it's in universe)07:00
thinkgreenasbo: gives me the help....07:00
LjL!caps | cpl-tnt4407:00
ubotucpl-tnt44: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.07:00
thinkgreenasbo: hmm07:00
alakazamz0rdnite, i have.07:00
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rc-1cpl-tnt44: apt-get install wine07:00
YanchoI'm trying to install webmin and it wants libauthen-pam-perl but is not in the apt-get .. any other ideas?07:00
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LjLcpl-tnt44: it's easy to use, for the applications that work well with it. for those that don't, it can be harder07:00
DaHungerhi07:00
TritonXcpl: Emulating windows is a risky thing to do , don't expect much07:00
LjL!webmin | Yancho07:00
ubotuYancho: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.07:00
cpl-tnt44what do u mean universe ?07:00
erikgzcrimsun: but, using the grub shell i have to explicitly specify both (0,0) /dev/hda1 (where grub dir is) and (0) /dev/hda (which MBR to point to /dev/hda1)07:00
thinkgreenasbo:  ahh... iftop -i eth2 did it07:00
rc-1cpl-tnt44: what app you trying to activate though, theres PROBABLy a better free alternative07:00
LjLTritonX: risky?07:00
DaHungeri need help07:01
asboalakazamz0r: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg07:01
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LjLUbotu, please tell cpl-tnt44 about universe07:01
YanchoLjL how can i change the ip of the computer then ?07:01
alakazamz0rty07:01
DaHungerwith edgy and glx07:01
earthiancpl-tnt44 for games try cedega and wise works fine with some too.. experiment :)07:01
asbothinkgreen: :)07:01
DaHungercan somebody help me?07:01
variantYancho: ifconfig eth0 ip up07:01
erikgzwhatever...07:01
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cpl-tnt44rc-1 : IE 5.5 and up for my forex trading , and metatrader 4.07:01
TritonXljl: sorry not risky but ... uncertain07:01
LjLYancho: look at /etc/network/interfaces07:01
dnitealakazamz0r, did u add the other resolutions u want to use to the right section? Maybe try the gnome preferences -> resolution setting07:01
LjL!traffic07:01
ubotuNOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!07:01
erikgzcrimsun: are you sure there isn't a way to just generate the menu.lst without doing the grub installation07:01
erikgz?07:01
thinkgreenasbo: not sure how to interpret the output though...07:01
DaHungercan somebody help me?07:01
DaHungerwith edgy and glx07:01
asbothinkgreen press h for help07:01
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erikgzman, that ubotu bot makes some noise :)07:01
LjLUbotu, please tell DaHunger about xgl07:01
rc-1cpl-tnt44: i think theres a version of IE that runs on ubuntu, but its not 5.507:02
earthian!ies4linux07:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ies4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:02
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LjL!fishing07:02
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)07:02
asbothinkgreen: i was thinking it may give you some output when it disconnects07:02
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cpl-tnt44i need 5.5 and up ...07:02
earthiancpl-tnt44 try googling for ies4linux07:02
Yanchovariant if i want to set it to 10.0.0.137 how can i do it ?07:02
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snoopscpl-tnt44 there's a package called ies4linux which is simple to install has had ie 5, 5.5 and 607:02
DaHungerahm07:02
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earthianit has IE 5.0 5.5 and 6.007:02
DaHungercan saomebody help me??07:02
variantYancho: ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.137 up07:02
earthian:D07:02
cpl-tnt44ok ! thanks !07:02
asbodahumger: with?07:02
snoopsha beat me to it earthian ;)07:02
LjLDaHunger: #ubuntu-xgl, as the bot told you07:02
earthiansnoops++07:02
cpl-tnt44i still need that wine anyway07:02
DaHungerok07:03
variantYancho: but to make it permanent do what LjL says07:03
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DaHungeri didnt understand what he said...07:03
DaHungerthx07:03
erikgzcrimsun: fyi, the command i was looking for was "update-grub"07:03
thinkgreenasbo: so you think i should keep it running untill it disconnects?07:03
variantYancho: and dont forget the default gateway07:03
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earthiancpl-tnt44 yes wine is needed.07:03
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asbothinkgreen: may help with verbosity07:03
iturkhi there in simulink application that runs over matlab everytime that i open a properties windows of some component the characters from this windows are too small to been seen !! how can i change that ??07:03
Yanchovariant in that file which LjL gave me there is no ips :S its just some words lol07:03
snoopscpl-tnt44 regarding enabling universe.. have you used apt in linux before?07:03
earthiancpl-tnt44 join #wine-hq for wine related questions07:03
variantYancho: read it :)07:03
TC`firestarter let's me to connect to internet by proxy and let's connect e.x. my laptop to this pc?07:03
LjLYancho: that's probably because you have DHCP set, look for a "dhcp" keyword in it07:03
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cpl-tnt44snoops : i have used that command b4 if that what u asking ..07:04
Yanchoyes there is LjL07:04
thinkgreenasbo: is their anything like a dhcp lease, or some reason my ip address would expire if i'm not running a dhcp server?07:04
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earthiani belive there is no wine in ubuntu/universe repositories07:04
dkrwhat's with this new gaim?  I have the buddy list window about 25 characters wide, and yet it abbreviates my contact names down to 2 or 3 letters followed by ellipsis(and 10 spaces on each side)07:04
jokoonIs this possible to "listen" last.fm music with Rythmbox ?07:04
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LjLYancho: then if you're using DHCP, you probably don't want to set an IP address manually07:04
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Yanchoi want a fixed ip LjL07:04
asbothinkgreen: is there a patern to the disconnects?07:04
cpl-tnt44earthian : what server ?07:04
earthianor at least i remember using the wine repositorie from wine=hq.org website07:04
LjL!info wine | earthian07:04
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB07:04
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iturkearthian: i have installed fromt here07:04
Yanchosince here im just testing the server - i want to put it in a server room07:04
snoopscpl-tnt44 alright, well you can either edit a file to enabled the universe repository or you can use synaptic package manager to enable it in a gui..07:04
variantYancho: you need to make your router assign a range of ip address that are fixed then07:04
thinkgreenasbo: only that it seems to happen every few hours, had never happened while i was using my computer07:05
asbothinkgreen: strange07:05
Yanchocan't i just fix it variant .. the router is hopeless :P07:05
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earthiancpl-tnt44 www.wine-hq.com07:05
cpl-tnt44snoops : how's it called ? universe ?07:05
earthianstrange wine irc channel is like gone :S07:05
variantYancho: were you given an ip address to use by your datacenter support?07:05
thinkgreenasbo: after it disconnects when i run ifconfig there isn't even an ip feild07:05
Yanchoyes variant .. for now its gonna be a 10.0.0.137 then it will be a foreign ip07:05
cpl-tnt44earthian : yeap thats why i asked ... or moved btw07:06
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LjLcpl-tnt44: yes. universe. the bot gave you links on how to enabled it.07:06
variantYancho: a foreign ip?07:06
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snoopswhy's it called universe? Well, not quite sure, but I just thought it's a place where everything that doesn't already have a category goes.. it's just out there.. contains other bits and pieces07:06
xstBug 58721 is a showstopper in edgy for most Matrox graphics card owners. However, its importance hasn't been set even though the bug was reported for ages ago. Can non-maintainers in any way push the importance of this critical bug?07:06
Yanchovariant outside ip i mean :)07:06
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earthiansorry, cpl-tnt44, www.winehq.com07:06
variantYancho: ok07:06
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Yanchoso for now i want the 10.0.0.137 set up :) it is there with ifconfig - how can i write it in that file :)07:06
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alakazamz0rok07:07
LjLsnoops: nothing to do with categories actually. "main" is free stuff mantained by the core devs, "universe" is free stuff maintained by the community, "restricted" is non-free by the core devs, "multiverse" is non-free by the community07:07
alakazamz0rthat drivers absolutely trash07:07
aoupihow do I get quake2 running? I have installed quake2 and quake2-data but when I run it I get: Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx07:07
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asbothinkgreen: sorry kid but i am at a loss on this one07:07
asbo:(07:07
alakazamz0rnesides putting NVidia in the driver line, and having my V and H sync correct... what else could cause the problem?!07:07
earthiancpl-tnt44 read this: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb07:07
cpl-tnt44Well.... i cant install wine : Package wine is not avcailable07:07
MarcNAnyone try the new googleearth on Edgy?  I just get a splash screen and high cpu load07:07
thinkgreenasbo: well, thanks for you're help, i'll see if i can pick anything out with iftop and report back07:07
LjLcpl-tnt44, yes, you need to *enable universe*. read the links from Ubotu.07:07
LjL!universe | cpl-tnt4407:07
ubotucpl-tnt44: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource07:07
asbothinkgreen: okee ;)07:07
variantYancho: iface eth0 inet static (then next line) address <ip> nextline netmask etc`etc07:07
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dnitealakazamz0r, nvidia, not NVidia07:08
thinkgreenasbo: thanks!07:08
cpl-tnt44ahhh u flooding me 1 at a time ...07:08
alakazamz0rdnite, thats what it is...07:08
alakazamz0ri'll put it in a pastebin07:08
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LjLcpl-tnt44: that's probably because you haven't read them yet.07:08
dnitealakazamz0r,  case matters07:08
cpl-tnt441st i need to enable universe (which i have no idea what it is ) ...07:08
cpl-tnt44right ?07:08
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snoopsLjL, hehe well, free stuff mained by the core devs has the main category, restricted non-free by the core devs category.. multiverse non-free community..which leaves another category to fill with the rest07:08
alakazamz0rdnite, once again, it ISNT NVidia07:08
LjLcpl-tnt44: yes. read those links and you'll know what it is, and how to enable it.07:08
LjLcpl-tnt44: then just type "sudo apt-get install wine"07:08
snoopsjust different ways of wording it07:08
Yanchovariant u mind i paste u privately if what i plan to write is good pls ?07:09
variantYancho: not in here07:09
variantYancho: /join nopaste07:09
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Yanchook07:09
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LjLsnoops: *shrug*07:09
LjL!pm | Yancho07:09
ubotuYancho: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.07:09
alakazamz0rdnite, http://paste.uni.cc/1128907:09
SpeEnEvening, I was wondering if I could get a little help reguarding a fresh install of edgy.07:10
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earthianLjL tell cpl-tnt44 about synaptic or that tool to enable repositories..07:10
cpl-tnt44LjL ok ... give a minute to digest those articles07:10
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cpl-tnt44i know synaptic...07:10
LjLearthian, that tool is described in the links.07:10
earthian:)07:10
earthianok07:10
aMickeHi, i have some weird problems with my wirless card... The drivers, ipw3945 are installed and i can find networks but when i try to connect to my network in network-manager get "connection failed" even if the network is open, not encrypted, I have searched in the foums and on google but haven't been able to find an answear so please help me.07:10
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earthianLjL are you familiar with the kernel boot parameters and md or better dm kernel modules ?07:11
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earthiani have problem with those...... :s07:11
grogoreohi07:11
TonrenHey guys.. this is crazy.  I checked Sessions -> Automatically Save on Exit, and then logged off and shutdown with almost NO applications open.  But the next time I logged in, it opens EVERYTHING!  Feed reader, file browser, the Sessions dialogue.  How do I make it stop!?07:11
LjLearthian, not really07:11
dnitealakazamz0r, looks fine to me, maybe try and remove the BusID line.. what error are you getting? or is it just not setting the resolution right for u?07:11
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noobvolmarroot@problema:/home/nullvoll/Desktop/RealPlayer/mozilla# sudo cp nphelix.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/07:11
noobvolmarcp: `nphelix.so' e `/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/nphelix.so' are the same file root@problema:/home/nullvoll/Desktop/RealPlayer/mozilla#07:11
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earthiani see..07:11
noobvolmarthis is my problem07:11
Zaggynlwhy can't I edit /etc/firestarter/user-pre ?! I'm using sudo for crying out loud07:11
grogoreowhat is the difference, when using 'ln', between a symbolic link and a hard link? Does the hard link make a copy of it and then makes the changes when either file is changed?07:12
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ZaggynlI also stopped the whole firestarter service07:12
TonrenZaggynl: What error does it give you?07:12
cpl-tnt44ok guyz i cant find that universal in the Sunaptic... any one help ..07:12
ZaggynlTonren, gedit claims it's read only07:12
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Zaggynlread only disc :/07:12
alakazamz0rdnite, yes07:12
TonrenZaggynl: Did you use gksudo gedit?07:12
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psusigrogoreo: a hard link creates another name for the same file, which must be on the same filesystem, a symbolic link just creates a file name that points to a different file name07:12
SpeEnAnyone familuar with X not starting with edgy on a system with ATI?07:12
alakazamz0rnot setting the resolution right07:12
LjLgrogoreo: a hard link is simply another reference to the same file. there is no difference, then, between the original reference and the hard link - they're both names for the same file07:12
ZaggynlTonren, yep07:12
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variantgrogoreo: ffs LjL you beat me07:12
TonrenZaggynl: Read only DISK?  Well, that's a little different.  It's mounted on the same filesystem as everything else?07:13
martin__!realplayer07:13
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:13
legonioI'm trying to mount NTFS disks with ntfs-3g... I think i made it.. but when i right click in the disk, there is no "Create empty file" or "Create directory"... only if I start nautilus with sudo. The rights for the directory is the same for root as users (i think)07:13
dnitealakazamz0r, paste your /var/log/Xorg.log07:13
alakazamz0rbrb07:13
variantgrogoreo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_link07:13
ZaggynlTonren, AFAIK, the file is on /etc/firestarter, which is on my linux partition07:13
TonrenCan anyone help me with this stupid session problem?  IT's driving me freaking nuts.07:13
m4steRfor wpa, i need only knetworkmanager or also wpa_supplicant?07:13
grogoreothanks psusi, LjLand variant07:13
TonrenZaggynl: Try using another editor, maybe, like Vim or Nano.07:13
iturkIs there a way to install windows fonts in ubuntu ?? is there some package already with that ??07:13
Tonren!fonts07:14
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto07:14
legonio2. When i click Create Directory (when i'm root), it gives me an general error07:14
LjL!msttcorefonts | iturk07:14
ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer07:14
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB07:14
TonrenLjL: Damn... you win07:14
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TonrenHey all... I checked Sessions -> Automatically Save on Exit, and then logged off and shutdown with almost NO applications open.  But the next time I logged in, it opens EVERYTHING!  Feed reader, file browser, the Sessions dialogue.  How do I make it stop!?07:14
ZaggynlTonren, I just tried nano, and I cannot type anything, 'gksudo nano /etc/firestarter/user-pre'07:14
cpl-tnt44guyz where do i find the universal in the synaptic tool ?07:14
Zaggynlfollowing this guide: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/VNC_and_Hamachi07:14
LjLZaggynl: use sudo, not gksudo, with nano07:15
kalilain ubuntu, where are the doc packages installed and how to access them?07:15
TonrenZaggynl: I think Nano is supposed to be used with plain old sudo07:15
ulwurI'm trying to install realplayer on dapper, got this: realplay: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.12.3) but 1.12.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed07:15
kalilalike apache2-doc07:15
variantlater all07:15
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LjL!man | kalila07:15
ubotukalila: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands07:15
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Zaggynlconfusing ;x07:15
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dniteTonren, i suggest never using auto save on log out... delete your ~/.gnome2/session file .. (i think it's in ~/.gnome2/)07:15
ulwurAny ideas?07:15
LjLZaggynl, gksudo should only be used for graphical programs.07:15
aMickecould anyone please take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29766/07:15
Tonrendnite: I only checked that so it would get rid of the applications!  But instead it made even more.07:15
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ZaggynlLjL, ah okay07:15
Zaggynlsudo nano seems to work07:16
UbuntuUserHello. I was just wondering what kernel version does Ubuntu 6.10 uses? 2.6?07:16
LjLZaggynl: or use "gksudo gedit" for that matter07:16
cpl-tnt44guyz where do i find the universal in the synaptic tool ?07:16
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LjL!info linux | UbuntuUser07:16
ubotulinux: Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB07:16
dniteTonren, ya, i've been through that. just delete the session file in one of the gnome hidden directorys and restart gnome.. should clear it up07:16
Tonrendnite: AWESOME.  Thank you!!!!07:16
jokoonIs this possible to "listen" last.fm music with Rythmbox ?07:16
ZaggynlLjL, that's the funny part, gksudo gedit didn't work, sudo nano did07:16
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LjLZaggynl: i see, weird07:16
dniteUbuntuUser, 2.6.17-25 i believe07:17
joonaUbuntuUser: open Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal and type "uname -a"07:17
crimsunUbuntuUser: 2.6.17.13 + patches.07:17
dniteah.. 13.. i was close.. hehehe07:17
dniteEdgy is freezing up on random. Mouse still moves, but nothing responds to it. Keyboard seems to do nothing. This usually happens while using Firefox, the last messages i see in the log after I hard reset the machine are 'Buffer I/O Error on device sde1, logical block 1708' 'lost page write due to I/O error on sde1' 'REISERFS: about (device sde1): Journal write error in flush_commit_list' ... any help???07:17
LjLnice answers, but he's gone07:17
joona:D07:17
dnitehaha.. didn't even notice that, oh well07:18
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spunoutMy apt-get is broken, xfonts-intl-european will neither uninstall or reinstall, the post-removal script returns error 2, and if i dpkg --purge it, it says its in a very bad state and to reinstall before purging07:18
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crimsun2.6.17.10 is incorrect07:18
freach`dnite: reiserfs ....07:18
spunoutI can find the post-removal script, but what do i do wiht it?07:18
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LjLcrimsun: tell that to APT, not to me :-P07:18
crimsunthat's only a package version. We point people to the changelog so they can see the entry for linux-source-2.6.17 (2.6.17-10.31)07:18
crimsun"* Merge 2.6.17.11 -> 2.6.17.13"07:19
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kalilaOrca is sweet, now how do you disable it :P07:19
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spunoutCan I just go in and delete all references to xfonts-intl-european, or will that break things more? (btw, i was upgrading to edgy when all this happened)07:19
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spunoutHow do you get rid of a package that's in a very bad inconsistent state, that will neither uninstall or reinstall?07:21
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LjLspunout, it's a tricky business07:21
ulwurHi! Trying to install realplayer on Dapper: this happends realplay: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.12.3) but 1.12.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed07:21
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xSUSHispunout: dont use the gui tool07:21
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crimsunulwur: that's silly. Use 'realplay' from dapper-commercial.07:22
spunoutI was using apt-get.  I remember messing with a post install script,w hen something like this happpend before, a long time ago07:22
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spunoutor maybeit was a post-removal script07:22
spunout(but not on this computer)07:22
spunoutand that fixed it07:22
mepaYanchoi installed LAMP .. but how can i test if it really works ?07:22
spunoutbut I cant remember how to fix this situation07:22
LjLulwur, you need to enable multiverse in the edgy-updates and edgy-security repos, as well as in the edgy repo (crimsum, see also)07:22
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martin__!realplayer07:22
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:22
Idrissuhow's neroLinux?07:22
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deemayo. Ubuntu showed some security updates, so I got them, and now my gnome panel is crashing and it's showing "Either --apttname or --package arguments are required" on startup07:22
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bisyhey, hey, anyone know the correct way of fixing the edgy usplash, as currently it on my machine runs in some as yet to be identified HxWxHz :D07:23
ulwurCrimsun: Thats what i'm doing. I'm installing from Canonnicals commersial repository!07:23
spunoutLjL, so any ideas?07:23
xSUSHiMepaYancho: mysql -u root -p07:23
crimsunulwur: make sure you have the -security and -updates repos active07:23
Ubuntu_UserWhat other GUIs can I get for Ubuntu besides KDE and Gnome? I'm looking for something low profile and clean. Can they be installed via apt-get if I were to do a server install of Ubuntu?07:23
mepaYanchoxSUSHi can i test http too ?07:23
LjLspunout: yes, hunt for the postinst script in /var/dpkg or wherever it is, and hack it so that it returns 0. but that's a horrible idea.07:23
ulwurcrimsun: All updates applied07:24
xSUSHimepayancho: heres a good one: www.lamphowto.com07:24
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ulwurcrimsun: and yes, I'm working with dapper07:24
crimsunulwur: and what command are you using?07:24
mepaYanchothanks xSUSHi07:24
deemayo. Ubuntu showed some security updates, so I got them, and now my gnome panel is crashing and it's showing "Either --appname or --package arguments are required" on startup07:24
spunoutUbuntu_User, try xubuntu with xfce07:24
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fifthnailhello all07:24
spunoutand Ihave heard of ION and ratpoison, but I think they are experimental...07:24
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fifthnailhelo07:25
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ianmacgregorhi07:25
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xSUSHiAnyone know how I get that 3D cube desktop like i've seen in so many screenshots?07:25
deemanobody is helpinG ??07:25
crimsundeema: patience is a virtue.07:25
joonaxSUSHi: google for ubuntu beryl07:25
xSUSHithx07:25
fifthnailWhat is this channel about?07:25
Ubuntu_Userspunout: Thanks.07:25
mepaYanchoxSUSHi - but i installed it already no? :S or it wasn't installed ?07:25
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larmehhi there07:26
ianmacgregorfifthnail: This is a support channel for Ubuntu Linux distributions07:26
yylexUbuntu_User: try fluxbox, openbox, blackbox.07:26
xSUSHimepayancho: that site has a section on testing it07:26
fifthnailAh....07:26
fifthnailThanks07:26
spunoutHere is where the error is generated from: update-fonts-dir --x11r7-layout misc07:26
fifthnailDoes anyone here use osCommerce?07:26
spunoutthats the line in the post removal script that breaks stuff07:26
xSUSHino07:26
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mepaYanchook apparently i dont have it xSUSHi .. if i follow this tutorial word by word its ok? is it for ubuntu ?07:26
spunoutfifthnail, I have hacked it for about a year or so now, i know it pretty well07:27
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xSUSHimepaYancho: it is for unix.07:27
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fifthnailheh... have you seen the os3 version?07:27
GyrosGeier\o/07:27
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Ubuntu_User!info07:27
martin__How do I get RealPlayer to work in firefox?07:27
ubotuinfo: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1 (edgy), package size 156 kB, installed size 324 kB07:27
martin__I've done it once, but I forgot how I did it07:27
spunoutfifthnail, i use the 2.2 because it is for a production server...07:28
Ayabara_I just reformatted my "/mnt/storage" from fat32 to ext3. how do I change my /etc/fstab? I want it to mount /dev/sda3 in /mnt/storage at boot07:28
xSUSHimepayancho: the tutorial is actually for a redhad distro07:28
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deemahow can I access the command terminal besides using the gnome menu07:28
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mepaYanchoxSUSHi im trying to find a good tutorial for one with ubuntu - these are the first moments of me with linux .. so quite green hehe07:28
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crimsundeema: press alt+F2, then enter gnome-terminal07:28
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fifthnailah.... I've found it pretty secure... just as long as you password protect the admin directory...07:28
deemaexactly what I was looking for, thank you07:29
micahcowandeema, you could assign a key combination to bring it up, as well.07:29
Ayabara_is "/dev/sda3        /mnt/storage        ext3    defaults        0       2" ok?07:29
Ayabara_that is the options root is mounted with07:29
ianmacgregordeema: You can press ALT+F2, type in gnome-terminal and it should launch07:29
rdemanowI need some help with my wireless -- it works on an unencrypted network down the street, but I can't get it to associate with the 128-bit WEP encrypted router here in the house07:29
deemais there a way to remove updates07:29
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fifthnailWhere have you found the major flaws?07:29
cpl-tnt44what do i do if i have an unresponsive windows ? say synaptic .. and i cant close it normally ?07:30
deemais there a way to remove updates?07:30
micahcowandeema: To do that, see System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Desktop, and assign a sequence to "Run a terminal"07:30
xSUSHirdemanow: i think you have to install WEP support07:30
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xSUSHicplp-tnt44 process manager07:30
micahcowandeema, do you mean, revert to a previous version of a package?07:30
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rdemanowcpl-tnt44: xkill or ps from the command line and do a kill -9 on the pid07:30
ianmacgregordeema: You can also make a panel launcher for it. The command to use is gnome-terminal07:30
deemaI suppose. I just did a security update and it's crashing07:30
fifthnailspunout?07:31
spunoutfifthnail, yeah?07:31
micahcowandeema: Dapper?07:31
deemaEdgy07:31
cpl-tnt44xSUSHi how do i get into it ?07:31
fifthnailWhere have you found the major flaws?07:31
Alakazamz0rwhere does ubuntu mount windows shares?07:31
attilioLjL, may you remember me the07:31
micahcowandeema, What is crashing?07:31
deemagnome-panel07:32
spunoutfifthnail, I don't look forward to moving all my customizations to a new platform...07:32
Alakazamz0rwhere in the drive structure?07:32
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attilioLjL, may you remember me the expression to export the proxy settings?07:32
Alakazamz0r/mnt/windows?07:32
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fifthnailAre you talking about os3?07:32
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LjLattilio: export http_proxy="" ; export HTTP_PROXY=""07:32
cpl-tnt44how do i get into the process manager ?07:32
LjLattilio: but that will not stick07:32
spunoutyeah07:32
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fifthnailNeither am I...07:32
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quintinAnyone here know anything about POTS and or stereo equipment?  Something of an emergency07:33
fifthnailHave you seen the new version?07:33
pfhomerHELP: I have an old ThinkPad i1300 with 128 MB RAM, 10 GB HD, 700 MHz Celeron that i have installed Kubuntu on. I have two problems: Firstly, it wont hibernate. Secondly, it is dog slow, probably because of too little RAM and KDE that uses too much RAM. So: Which distro is more likely to hibernate my i1300? And which desktop/wm is best for computers with little memory? What distro should i use?07:33
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quintinpfhomer: might try xubuntu.  hibernate should work on all computers as long as your swap is bigger than your ram07:33
micahcowandeema, was gnome-panel one of the security updates?07:33
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deemadon't remember!07:33
spunoutpfhomer, you probly need to set up apm instead of acpi.  try xubuntu, and to suspend, with apm installed, type apm -s07:33
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spunoutor is it apm -S?07:34
ianmacgregorpfhomer: For a desktop, you might look into xubuntu, for other window managers I would recommend fluxbox, openbox or Window Maker.07:34
deemahow can I access the update manager through the terminal?07:34
deemato see07:34
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cpl-tnt44well ?07:34
cpl-tnt44how do i get into the process manager ?07:34
ccookedeema: do you want to start the graphical update manager, or perform an update from the terminal?07:35
mihee!w32codecs07:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:35
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larmehi need to make suspend to ram work on my laptop... does anyone know a good tutorial?07:35
fifthnailSo is Ubuntu and new Linux OS?07:35
deemagraphical udate manager07:35
micahcowandeema, if it's already been updated, update-manager (which is the command name you asked for) won't tell you what you've already done, I think.07:35
deemahum07:35
ccookedeema: just run "update-manager"07:35
deemawhat will, then?07:35
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davewhy wouldnt lspci -X work for me?07:35
daveis there a new - code for it?07:36
davei need the busid on my vid card07:36
LjLUbotu, please tell fifthnail about ubuntu07:36
iterdave: just lspci will get it07:36
cpl-tnt44Where do i find the process manager ?07:36
micahcowandeema: look in /var/log/dpkg ?07:36
fifthnailthanks.... i'm also looking at the website....07:36
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pfhomerIsn't it possible to install Xfce on Kubuntu and use Xfce as the default wm?07:36
daveits not giving me the same format07:36
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fifthnailI've used Linuz before.07:36
mrkrisi'm attempting to watch Dark Water (dvd) on my laptop, unfortunately gxine crashes when I load it. Anyone have any idea why?07:37
fifthnailLinux - Redhat... what's the difference?07:37
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davexorg.conf seems to want ##:##:## and lspci gives me 00:0d.007:37
mrkrisi read it could be one of the newer encrypted versions07:37
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micahcowandeema, look for lines like <timestamp> upgrade <pkg1> <pkg2>07:37
cpl-tnt44Where do i find the process manager ?07:37
mepaYanchowhen im in vi and i try to edit something .. im getting characters instead of moving with arrows <- any idea how i can fix it pls ?07:38
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fifthnailUbotu tell me about Ubuntu.07:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Ubuntu. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:38
Zaggynllol07:38
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dutchywhen im booting, right before i get the ubuntu loading bar i get a few errors but it goes too fast for me to read, could anyone tell me where the logs of these are located?07:38
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deema2006-11-01 13:03:19 upgrade screen 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5.6.1007:38
deemawhat's this?07:38
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crimsuna security update.07:38
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micahcowanmepaYancho, you can either use the h,j,k,l keys, or install regular vim (you have vim-tiny installed).07:38
noobvolmarmy mozilla firefox don't plug my realplayer, what I can do?07:38
deemato what07:38
crimsundeema: the 'screen' package.  SECURITY UPDATE: heap overflow and arbitrary code execution possible with crafted UTF8 strings.07:39
micahcowandeema, I have that line here as well... but I'm running Dapper.07:39
mepaYanchomicahcowan and shall i use apt-get install vim ?07:39
pfhomerIsn't it possible to install Xfce on Kubuntu and use Xfce as the default wm?07:39
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deemalibmagick907:39
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deemawhat's this?07:39
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deemai only installed 2 things, those 207:39
micahcowanmepaYancho, yes. You may also need to run update-alternatives to set the vim alternative to /usr/bin/vim instead of /usr/bin/vim-tiny.07:39
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mepaYanchomicahcowan from where? 0:) - ur talking with an idiot here hehe07:40
crimsundeema: image library.  SECURITY UPDATE: Remote arbitrary code execution.07:40
deemaokay, but07:40
deemahow can I fix my gnome panel07:40
deemait's crashing!07:40
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crimsunhave you rebooted?07:40
deemayes07:40
micahcowandeema, hm... neither of those things really should've affected your gnome panel...07:40
crimsunhave you moved .gconf* and .gnome2* to a backup directory/07:41
deemano07:41
jokoonHello :) How can I install a .theme file ? (for example http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/38475969/ )07:41
micahcowanmepaYancho, Do the apt-get install first.07:41
erik_UBUNTUis there any way to play media on the mms:// protocol in ubuntu / totem?07:41
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micahcowanmepaYancho, you may actually want the vim-gnome package, as that includes the GUI support as well (without requiring you to use it).07:42
deemamicahocowan07:42
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deemait generated a bug report, you want to see it, can you help?07:42
micahcowandeema, yes?07:42
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peggerplease somebody give me that repository, which include the w32codecs07:43
micahcowanI can try.07:43
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erik_UBUNTUpegger: do a quick google on ubuntu restricted formats07:43
webwolf_27pegger, multiverse?07:43
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peggeraha07:43
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deemahttp://pastebin.ca/23304607:43
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peggerthanx07:43
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samouraisalut07:45
micahcowandeema: run gnome-panel from a terminal, skip the bug report, and tell me if the terminal has something like "Assertion failed:" in it.07:45
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deemait's already runing07:45
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micahcowangnome-panel? Is it working now, then?07:46
deemawell.07:46
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aMickeHi, i have some weird problems with my wirless card... The drivers, ipw3945 are installed and i can find networks but when i try to connect to my network in network-manager get "connection failed" even if the network is open, not encrypted, I have searched in the foums and on google but haven't been able to find an answear so please help me.07:46
deemait's Working, but the MENU is not. when I go to the menu, it crashes07:46
deemaand crashes then restarts07:46
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micahcowanAre you currently running it from a terminal?07:46
micahcowanafk, brb07:47
deemano07:47
Yanchohttp://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10_p4 <- im following this tutorial but on my system i cannot find ncftp .. any work around ?07:48
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iteruse ftp07:49
iteror lftp, my personal fav07:50
alecjwwhat programs do i need to manage fat64 partitions?07:50
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micahcowandeema, look in the file .xsession-errors in your home directory, and look for a line like: "Assertion failure" or similar.07:50
Lord_NiconHello07:50
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Lord_NiconSup?07:50
deemaok let me see07:50
itersup doggy mc dogdog07:50
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shivunable to boot my ntfs please help see this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29773/07:50
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tecloHello. In order for my locales to be correctly defined, I need to run /etc/init.d/console-setup at boot time. I have tried putting it as S15console-setup in /etc/rc3.d but it fails to configure my locale properly. If I put it as S30console-setup, the GUI does not start properly. At what Sxx should I put the symlink to /etc/init.d/console-setup ?07:51
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Yanchoiter so i can change it and then it still works ?07:51
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LjLshiv: how are you trying to boot it?07:52
micahcowanteclo: are you sure you're booting into runlevel 3? Mine goes to 2 by default...07:52
iterYancho: yes, use lftp instead07:52
teclo[root@lithium]  19:49 /root>runlevel07:52
tecloN 307:52
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Yanchoiter and this is just an ftp server ?07:52
deemayes I've got assertion failed07:52
user-landis someone else havingproblems with aMule too ?07:53
iterftp client07:53
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micahcowandeema, can you pastebin the full assertion-failure message?07:53
Yanchoso useless in my case since im running an ftp server right ?07:53
Jas-Nixhey, in edgy is there a way to see what is loading when you boot up the pc, instead of the progress bar ?07:53
nlindbladafter "sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server" I get "Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL which is required for WordPress."07:53
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iternlindblad: install mysql-server first07:54
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nlindbladiter: thanks07:54
tarzanhi... is the alsa dmix plugin used by default in ubuntu 6.10?07:54
toni have squid installed on my pc , but my windows clients are losing theirs connection each 2 minutes using msn messanger, could someone help me ?07:54
iterhehe missing the mysql07:54
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micahcowanteclo, is console-setup from a package? If so, which? If not, what's in it?07:54
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deemahttp://pastebin.ca/23305907:54
KlohuntHow do you enable repositories in 6.10?07:55
iterKlohunt: add them to /etc/apt/sources.list07:55
teclomicahcowan: Yes, it's from the package console-setup07:55
iteror just uncomment07:55
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nlindbladiter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP got it wrong then?07:55
user-landklohunt, in synaptic.07:55
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iternlindblad: before you issue the big apt-get you pasted just do apt-get install mysql-server07:56
misthupperhello there, can i ask a question for gaming here?07:56
sanmarcosno07:56
misthupperthanks07:56
misthupperanother irc-channel?07:56
misthupper(ubuntu)07:56
ccookemisthupper: gaming on Ubuntu?07:56
iterwhat kind of bitch ass answer is that07:56
misthupperyes, why not?07:56
iterask the question misthupper07:56
Klohuntuser-land: When I go to settings > repositories and check all of them, it still doesnt do it07:56
The^nikeholas .. despues de instalar el edgy en mi equipo me salen 2 disqueteras .. alguen me puede desir porque sera ?07:56
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ccookemisthupper: what do you need to know?07:56
Klohuntuser-land: is there something else I have to do?07:56
micahcowanteclo, not console-setup-mini, right (just double-checking)?07:56
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misthupperis anybody there who is playing fifa (ea sports) with wine ?07:57
teclomicahcowan: no, console-setup07:57
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GyrosGeierhmm07:57
erik_UBUNTUthere is wrong information in the user documentation07:57
GyrosGeierwhat is the "correct" way to set up a dialup connection?07:57
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micahcowandeema, when's the last time you had restarted before today?07:58
LjLUbotu, please tell GyrosGeier about modem07:58
user-landklohunt, you check them all, close, and what happens ?07:58
Jas-NixLjL: uh.. you do know ubotu is a bot right :)07:58
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Jas-Nix!modem07:59
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto07:59
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Jas-NixGyrosGeier: ^^07:59
LjLJas-Nix: of course i do07:59
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misthupperbye07:59
LjLJas-Nix, my command worked. and for that matter, you can just type  "!mode | GyrosGeier" to address the person directly07:59
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LjL!bot | Jas-Nix07:59
ubotuJas-Nix: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:59
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user-land2klohunt, you check them all, close, and what happens ?08:00
Jas-NixLjL: awesome, I'm new to the channel sorry :)08:00
concept10Is BUM (boot up manager) compatible with the new upstart scripts?08:00
GyrosGeierhmm08:00
bobbyyuHow do I use the shared files utility in Edgy. WHen I pick either option (NFS or Samba), it doesn't accept it08:00
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GyrosGeierthe issue at hand is that the box is Xubuntu only08:00
bobbyyuHow esle can I configure my shares?08:00
GyrosGeierand the user is not very proficient, to say the least08:00
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LjLGyrosGeier, if the modem is a winmodem, it won't be easy to set up.08:01
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concept10bobbyyu, depends on what you want to share08:01
GyrosGeierthe connection works08:01
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LjLGyrosGeier: if it's a hardware modem, it should be08:01
deemamicah, what do you mean08:01
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GyrosGeierbut it always dials up on boot08:01
Karark_I need some help with what seems to be cookies... every time I log in to the forum it logs me out when going to a new page.08:01
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bobbyyuSay I want to share my mounted drives08:01
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bobbyyuand my home directory08:01
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micahcowandeema, I'm wondering if it was actually today's update: when's the last time you had restarted your computer, besides today?08:01
GyrosGeierI need to install something that will present an icon to toggle online/offline, preferably so that I don't pull in half of GNOME08:01
hmrochahello08:02
teledynbobbyyu: what is the shared files utility?  just set up an nfs server08:02
GyrosGeierbecause the box only has 40MiB HD space left. :-/08:02
deemaa few days ago I guess08:02
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nlindbladiter: now it won't even recognize PHP as a filetype, just asks me what to open a "PHTML" with :S08:02
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hmrochai have just bought a sony vaio c series, and booted with edgy08:02
bobbyyuThe one that comes with Ubuntu08:02
concept10bobbyyu, im not sure about the new GUIs, but I use a combination of the GUI and the command line.  In sambas case, you want want to go to the terminal and reload samba so it may pick up the shares08:02
`foghello08:02
iternlindblad: no problem that's apache conf08:02
hmrochagraphics card works pretty well out of the box08:02
nlindbladiter: why did it change?08:03
teledynbobbyyu: install nfs-kernel-server and off you go.  man exports08:03
hmrochabut wireless and ethernet are not recognized08:03
`fogi downloaded ubuntu but it didnt install the modemdriver08:03
TC`!iptables08:03
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).08:03
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bobbyyuI'm sharing my files with a Windows computer08:03
hmrochado you have any hints on how i can correct this?08:03
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abbyzhi08:03
teledynbobbyyu: in that case samba.   i think there's an smb.conf manpage08:03
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`fogwireless and ethernet were recognized but the modem wasnt?08:04
teledynbobbyyu: irregardless, the file is so well commented you don't really need a man page08:04
bobbyyuDo I just type man smb.conf ?08:04
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Karark_I need some help with what seems to be cookies... every time I log in to the forum it logs me out when going to a new page... deleting the cookies and saved password doesn't remedy the problem08:04
toni have squid installed on my pc , but my windows clients are losing theirs connection each 2 minutes using msn messenger, could someone help me ?08:04
bobbyyuIs smb.conf in my Home directory?08:04
teledynbobbyyu: just edit the file and read a lot of the comments/info in it.  it has some good examples that you can tweak to your liking08:04
LjLGyrosGeier, i'm really ust guessing, because i can't find a relevant document. perhaps you could check /etc/network/interfaces and set the "noauto" option for ppp0, since i guess the problem is caused by the connection being set to automatically start as soon as a program requests a non-local URL08:04
bobbyyuWhere can I find smb.conf?08:04
LjLbobbyyu: /etc08:05
concept10bobbyyu, in that case you want to use samba.  to restart sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart08:05
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jrwahi there08:05
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GyrosGeierLjL, yep, that is the easy part08:05
teledynbobbyyu: do you know how to list contents of packages?08:05
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teledynbobbyyu: dpkg -L samba |less08:05
jrwaI've got a friend installing ubuntu, and on the mounting points step... only /media/sda1...4 are showing08:05
GyrosGeierLjL, I've let that on because the user would not know how to start the connection besides turning the modem off and on08:05
tecloFuck, I can't get my console configured properly08:05
toni have squid installed on my pc , but my windows clients are losing theirs connection each 2 minutes using msn messanger, could someone help me ?08:05
jrwaaren't they supposed to be hda1...4??08:05
iternlindblad: not sure but php install should add it back in08:05
LjL!language | teclo08:05
ubotuteclo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:05
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teclo[root@lithium]  20:05 /root>ll /etc/rc3.d/S20console-setup08:06
teclolrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 2006-11-01 19:56 /etc/rc3.d/S20console-setup -> ../init.d/console-setup08:06
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LjLGyrosGeier, i haven't used a modem for a long time, but i did "pon connectionname" and "poff connectionname". i guess the Gnome PPP tool would do that, too?08:06
teclosee ? The symbolic link is there, but my console is stiil fscked up08:06
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tecloand if I do /etc/init.d/console-setup manually, it works08:06
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jojuxhi08:07
tecloany idea ? This is a pain08:07
GyrosGeierLjL, Xubuntu, no GNOME installed, no space for it either08:07
jojuxI am migrating a system from booting directly to booting via initrd. is there somewhere a setting or hook that will make an new initrd image if i install a new kernel package ?08:07
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GyrosGeierLjL, the box in question is an P166MMX which is used for printing the occasional letter and reading webmail08:07
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LjLGyrosGeier: well, see if pon and poff work -- if they do, you could probably make icons to run them08:08
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micahcowandeema, I'm not sure how you can fix the problem for yourself: it doesn't look like there's been any recent changes to gnome-panel, and I'm not sure what else might have messed with it. If you recently added an applet or somesuch to the panel, you might try disabling that... please do submit a bug on gnome-panel, and include both the backtrace and the relevant portions from .xsession-errors. There are other crash bug reports on gnome-panel, but it's not08:08
micahcowan clear to me whether they're the same: please peruse them to avoid posting a duplicate.08:08
micahcowansorry I couldn't be of more help to you :(08:08
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GyrosGeierLjL, yes, that might work08:09
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micahcowanteclo: when you run it manually, are you in the system console at that time?08:09
jrwacan I install ubuntu on /media/sda1 then?08:09
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teclomicahcowan: Yes I am08:09
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tortoise_Anyone know of a good but affordable dvi switch?08:10
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meshuggahey chaps08:10
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meshuggai have no dri when i configure xinerama on my t3008:10
meshuggaanyone knows about that issue?`08:11
micahcowanIs it the font that you also expect to be set up?08:11
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micahcowanteclo, ^^^08:11
micahcowanor just the keyboard?08:11
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TooTallJones How can I list my detected hard drives?08:11
teclomicahcowan: actually, the biggest problem is the locale08:11
teclomicahcowan:  if it's not set up correctly, I get "garbage" when I type french-language accentued letters08:12
quintinTooTallJones: they'll be in /dev08:12
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quintinteclo: well don't do that then!!08:12
luisbgis there any command to see how much memory the computer has?08:12
quintinluisbg: man top, man free08:12
quintinluisbg: 'free -m'08:12
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dang`r`us'ello08:12
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tecloquintin: well I need to run /etc//init.d/console-setup in order for everything to be configured, so that I don't get "garbage"08:13
dang`r`usI'm experiencing broken packages since I upgraded to edgy: http://rafb.net/paste/results/sn46ki64.html  (in the end I just want to install libsdl-dev)08:13
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quintinteclo: speak english.  problem solved.08:13
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tecloquintin: you want me to punch you in the face ?08:13
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faLUCEHi.. I can't hear the audio from the player plugged in mozilla... any suggestion? since yesterday it worked. I have reinstalled mozilla as well the flash-plugin but it doesn't work yet...08:14
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quintinteclo: please abide by the terms of conduct.08:14
micahcowanquintin, if you don't understand what he's saying, don't be a jerk, just move on to a problem you understand.08:14
micahcowanquintin, he's not the only one ignoring the CoC.08:14
quintinmicahcowan: bite me.08:14
bronzequintin: what micahcowan said. seconded08:14
LjLteclo, quintin, what's the issue?08:14
tecloquintin: It's the machine that must adapt itself to the user, not the user who must adapt himself to the machine08:14
quintineverybody speaks english anyay.08:15
quintin!08:15
micahcowanLjL, read up, pleaes. Not far to look.08:15
tecloquintin: I want the goddamn fucking ISO8859-15 configured properly on my console. Do you understrand that ?08:15
quintin!ops08:15
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!08:15
micahcowanteclo, you will be kicked for language of that sort...08:15
LjL!language | teclo08:15
ubotuteclo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:15
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micahcowanquintin, you're hardly one to cry foul.08:15
Amaranthquintin: ?08:15
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tecloPlease excuse my language, but quintin is picking a fight in here08:15
bronzeteclo quintin: well I need to run /etc//init.d/console-setup in order for everything to be configured, so that I don't get "garbage"08:15
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AmaranthOh, LjL is here.08:15
BeBrawwhere does ubuntu dump core?08:15
bronzequintin teclo: speak english.  problem solved.08:16
LjLAmaranth: what do we do, you kick the one and i kick the other?08:16
LjLboth of you, please just stop.08:16
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AmaranthLjL: If they don't stop kick them both. :P08:16
quintinI'm not using a potty mouth.08:16
quintinI demand he be punished!08:16
tecloquintin: What kind of a fascist are you for suggesting that the whole universe should speak English ? Do you do "Zieg, Heil" at meetings ?08:16
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BeBrawi found /dev/core. i presume that is the core that was dumped, no?08:16
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bronzeBoys, you were both wrong quintin for starting it and teclo  for responding with violenmt threat08:17
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AmaranthAlright, that's it.08:17
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bronzei want you to shake hands and start over... :-)08:17
AmaranthOh, LjL is already on it08:17
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quintinwtf08:17
earthian;)08:17
micahcowanquintin, stop acting like you were an innocent08:17
LjLand, teclo, please drop it and watch your language. there is no justification for behaving like that, even if he gave you advice that you considered bad.08:17
faLUCEHi.. I can't hear the audio from the player plugged in mozilla... any suggestion? since yesterday it worked. I have reinstalled mozilla as well the flash-plugin but it doesn't work yet...08:17
quintinmicahcowan: I was innocent buttface.08:18
micahcowanLJL?08:18
dang`r`us8)08:18
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micahcowanthanks08:18
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kyjayou could give them both ops and see wich one kicks the other faster lol. but umm thats just fun for the rest of us08:18
micahcowanteclo, I'm not going to be inclined to help, though, if you're going to get incindiary on this channel, even if he was picking the fight.08:18
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micahcowanteclo, the problem may be that console-setup only sets up keyboard (and not fonts, which may include some of the necessary UTF-8 stuff for you) if it's still in upstart.08:19
micahcowanSo, it behaves differently than it does when the system's already up.08:19
teclomicahcowan: Please excuse my behaviour, but, it's the first time ever in my life that I come across so much stupidity and fascism in a single sentence.08:19
user-landfirefox 2 is really not stable. it kept the cpu fully busy now for hours, with no scripts on the page, nothing ...08:19
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variantuser-land: thats not my experience08:20
micahcowanteclo, haven't been on IRC/Internet forums long, then? :)08:20
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Dr_SatoHi all08:20
user-landvariant, and i crashes a lot.08:20
Dr_SatoOne quick question08:20
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user-landvariant, and firefox 2 crashes a lot.08:20
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teclomicahcowan: more than 10 years. And I'm usually very calm and relaxed. But, such a fascist argument cannot be tolerated.08:20
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Mojowhat was the fascist argument?08:21
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Dr_SatoI have downloaded the Ubunte version 6.06 TLS Desktop (but the system is kind of slow (laptop, Compaq Armade E 500) Alles specs are good. BUT is there a way to install without first going to X?08:21
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micahcowanteclo, I've found that idiocy is most often best left ignored. Pointing it out to them is "casting pearls before swine". :/08:21
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Mojowhat was the fascist argument?08:21
teclomicahcowan: So in this channel, you don't tolerate when someone uses the f-word, but you tolerate such fascist arguments ? That's "interesting".08:22
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bronzeteclo - drop in on ##linux some time if you want to see more of that in one sentence .. :)08:22
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Dr_Satoanyone?08:22
chillDr_Sato: install the server version08:22
lostboyzhello i have a problem i have a webcam and i can see myself in the computer but when i try to send with any application it is not sent and i have no idea why08:22
variantteclo: #wikipedia is a good place for a pointless argument08:22
Dr_Satochill: I understand.08:22
salomeso's wikipidia.org08:23
teclovariant: yes there is quite some arguing on #wikipedia :)08:23
spunoutDr_Sato, you may try the alternate install disk, too08:23
teclovariant: there's nothing like a #wikipedia troll08:23
Dr_SatoBut than I have t install he X after right08:23
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chillDr_Sato: i believe you can afterwards install 'ubuntu-desktop'08:23
Dr_Satohmm... alternate install disc08:23
dang`r`usany tips on what I could do against the apparently broken packages in edgy? ( http://rafb.net/paste/results/sn46ki64.html - I need to install libsdl-dev)08:23
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Dr_SatoI'll try both options right now :) I've got the other 2 CD's aswell08:23
spunoutDr_Sato, you may also try xubuntu, if overhead is an issue.   it is low footprint08:23
chillDr_Sato: you only want Xorg on a server/clean install?08:23
voraistosHey did you guys hear about some kernel issue on edgy ? keep receiving syslog mails...08:24
teclohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:9/11_conspiracy_theories   <--- serious trolling !08:24
Dr_Satochill: hmm... no my wife has to wok with it so I need an X :)08:24
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Amaranth!offtopic | teclo08:24
ubotuteclo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:24
micahcowanteclo, no we don't tolerate it. If it continues (just as with language), the ops deal with it. But his statement was not all that fascist, compared to most things I hear on the 'Net. And responding offensively is far from appropriate.08:24
Dr_Satospunout: I'll try xububtu 208:24
Dr_Satowok = work08:25
teclomicahcowan: yeah well, sorry08:25
chillDr_Sato: as spunout said, xubuntu is a good option (i'm using it now too :) )08:25
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teclomicahcowan: so how can I fix my issue ? :/08:25
Dr_SatoIt is clean and works the same as ubuntu?08:25
micahcowanteclo, still looking into it...08:25
micahcowanDoes anyone know: are the system consoles up already when usptart begins, or does it come up at some point during upstart?08:25
spunoutDr_Sato, just remember, no start menu.  right click on desktop for menu...08:25
chillDr_Sato: it is cleaner and faster, but its without all the fancy config stuff from gnome08:25
micahcowanteclo: when you say gdm wouldn't come up right when it was at S30, what exactly does that mean? Did it not come up at all? It doesn't seem like console-setup should mess with anything GDM relies on...08:26
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chillspunout: it has a startmenu!08:26
teclomicahcowan: I'm gonna try again with S30console-setup08:26
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spunoutchill, yes, but you click on the desktop for it, right?  or am i thinking of fluxbox or something else?08:26
chillspunout: newest version of xfce that is08:26
spunoutchill, ok, never mind...08:26
chillspunout: just a button in the 'taskbar'08:27
Dr_Satochill and spunout: thnx08:27
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chillpanel it's called :-)08:27
RocondaIs edgy a server distro and if it is, how can I upgrade to it?08:27
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nachxsholas08:27
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nachxssaludos a todos08:27
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bluefox83Roconda, upgrade at your own risk..upgrading seems to be breaking stuff08:27
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nachxsuna consulta alguien ha podido obtener el efecto de fuego con beryl08:28
lostboyzhello i have a problem i have a webcam and i can see myself in the computer but when i try to send with any application it is not sent and i have no idea why08:28
spunoutyeah I liked xubuntu when I tried it... although ubuntu works fine on this 600mhz toshiba portege 3480ct with 384 mb ram (the ram is why)08:28
voraistosand dapper is 5 years support for servers08:28
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tonalguien puede ayudarme mis clientes estan usando messanger , mi servidor squid and firewall, they are disconneting cada minuto por que08:28
Rocondabluefox83: doesn't realy matter if it crashes/don't work anymore It's on my test server that I host at home a08:28
voraistos!es08:28
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:28
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spunoutSo, if anybody else has a problem upgrading to edgy with xfonts-intl-european post-install script crashing, I removed the --x11r7 option after update-fonts-dir in the post-removal script, and it finally uninstalled, and I was able to continue upgrading08:29
Alzi2Hey. How do I enable the TTY's from 8 to 12?08:29
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micahcowanteclo, I'm not running edgy on this machine, so I probably won't be able to help you much further: what I can tell you, though, is that you need to be sure that the console-setup init script runs while usplash is /not/ running, otherwise it won't do the full configure. You'll need to find someone running Edgy to help you further, probably.08:31
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UKMattWhat's a good program to trasncode videos?08:32
cyzieim looking for a software that obtain data either from database or text file and plot the graph automatically? is there such like softwares?08:32
micahcowanAlzi2, if you want to do that permanently, you'll probably want to add further lines to /etc/inittab. Look at the lines with /sbin/getty in them, and add a few more there. I'd leave 7 and 8 open, personally. gdm/X needs 7, and 8 sometimes has another X (switched user) or usplash (if run after gdm).08:32
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sorush20how do I check my keyboad layout that is being used by ubuntu.. Ihave changed it to farsi but they don't match up...08:32
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Alzi2micahcowan: Yeah,but that file doesn't exist.08:32
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micahcowanAlzi2, if inittab doesn't exist, I don't know how to help: I'm not familiar with upstart :(08:33
m4steRhow can i define eth0 like the default network interface08:33
micahcowan(and, I'm not running it on this machine)08:33
m4steR?08:33
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tecloback08:34
sorush20!keyboad08:34
dom_fHi - Following an upgrade to Edgy I have a problem with the root partition not showing up in either df or mount though it is mounted - I have put further details in launchpad as support#2293.  Does anybody have the knowledge and some time to help me troubleshoot this?08:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keyboad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:34
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waahow i active /dev/parport0 in my edgy eft box?08:34
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teclookay if I put console-setup at S30, instead of having the GUI start normally, I get a screen where the top 1/3 is white and the rest is black....08:35
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tecloand if I put console-setup at S20, my accentued keys produce garbage instead of 08:35
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Drac|SchoolI'm in Edgy, now.08:35
voraistoscoool08:35
Drac|SchoolHow can I install the nVidia beta drivers through apt? (please don't link me - I'm in a console)08:35
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Alzi2Hey. How do I enable the TTY's from 8 to 12? I mena, in Upstart... What is the inittab?08:36
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shredder_hello... how do i find out my ip_08:36
MitchMifconfig08:36
tecloshredder: /sbin/ifconfig08:36
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dom_fshredder: ifconfig08:36
MagicFabI have installed ttf-ubuntu-title but can't see it in OpenOffice.org... any hints ?08:36
shredder_thanks08:36
MitchMi win.08:36
Drac|Schoolshredder_: ifconfig for local ip. whatismyip.com for public IP. :P08:36
MitchMwhtasmyip.net*08:37
tijn_mmh anyone arround with a little wifi knowledge?08:37
Drac|SchoolMitchM: Yeah. That.08:37
MitchMtijn_ yes?08:37
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Drac|Schoolshredder_: See MitchM08:37
Alzi2anyone?08:37
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Alzi2Hey. How do I enable the TTY's from 8 to 12? I mena, in Upstart... What is the inittab?08:37
tijn_MitchM: its not os related btw08:37
MitchMtijn_ yes?08:37
Drac|SchoolHow can I install the nVidia beta drivers through apt? (please don't link me - I'm in a console)08:37
dom_fHas anyone some time to help me troubleshoot a problem I'm having with Edgy?  My root file system doesn't show up in df or mount (but is mounted!)08:37
godmasterfernch here?08:37
MitchMtijn_: What is the question?08:37
tijn_i have 1 wireless modem, and 1 wireless switch with 4 lan ports08:37
godmasterfrench here?08:37
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bimberi!fr08:38
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:38
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bluefox83Drac|School, beta drivers?08:38
shredder_im downloading nvidia driver via automatix right now08:38
teclogodmaster: essaye plutt /join #ubuntu-fr08:38
tijn_i want the switch to be a repeater08:38
tijn_so that it connect with wifi to the modem, and i can plug in a cable in a lan port08:38
tijn_is this even possible?08:38
CarinArri'm not sure why, but all of a sudden when i try ot play mp3s (or any sound) mplayer tells me open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: Device or resource busy08:39
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CarinArri was listening to music yesterday afternoon and i can't think that i've changed anything since08:39
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hckrSidI'm having a strange problem with edgy that I didn't have with dapper... As soon as I connect an external display (CRT or projector) to my laptop, I get logged out.08:40
legonioDoes anyone know how to mount a encrypted partition with truecrypt on edgy eft?08:40
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shredder_I'm not too sure but everytime i install ubuntu the first thing i install is VLC... never failed on me08:40
godmastersomething know about pgp?08:40
godmasteri have a problem08:40
CarinArrcan anyone tell me how i can figure out what is using my sound card?08:41
Alzi2Hey. How do I enable the TTY's from 8 to 12? I mean, in Upstart... What is the inittab? Anyone?08:41
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Alzi2Where*08:41
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tijn_MitchM: ?08:41
deemawhat's a way to close a full screen game?08:41
MitchMtijn_: apologies; phone call.08:41
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tijn_np08:42
Alzi2deema: Ctrl+Alt+F1, ps aux, killall -9 programname08:42
shredder_CarinArr -- sometimes when i close a media player the music doesnt stop... it plays on the background... i log out and log on again and it works fine have you tried that08:42
deemais there an easier way?08:42
VR^is it better to usually use the repos "from your country"? would that be faster? i've been experiencing some lag lately with the default repos.08:42
MitchMtijn_: It is possible depending on what router you have.08:42
Alzi2deema: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.08:42
MitchMtijn_: What type of wireless router are you using?08:42
tijn_well, one is a sweex08:42
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Alzi2Hey. How do I enable the TTY's from 8 to 12? I mean, in Upstart... What is the inittab? Please? Anyone? Please don't ignore me....08:42
deemawhat's ps aux mean?08:42
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Alzi2deema: It's a command you input in the terminal08:43
tijn_in the sweex switch, i can use it as 'station ad-hoc'08:43
hckrSidI'm having a strange problem with edgy that I didn't have with dapper... As soon as I connect an external display (CRT or projector) to my laptop, I get logged out.08:43
deemayes, what does that mean08:43
MitchMtijn_: hmm.08:43
CarinArrshredder_, i tried completely rebooting but it's still the same08:43
MitchMtijn_: It really all depends on what type of router you have; some routers can connect "as clients" to other routers.08:43
Alzi2deema: ps aux displays a list of all running applications on your system. Using that you can figure out the name of the running game and eliminate it with killall -9 <programname>08:43
w30Alzi2, edit /etc/inittab and add more ttys than the listed 1 thru 608:43
deemaoh okay08:43
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MitchMtijn_: Like a cracked Version of a linksys router can do that.08:44
Alzi2w30: It doesn't exist on Edgy.08:44
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deemathanks08:44
tijn_more options btw, wait, gonna hoop up my laptop to some external power :)08:44
deemawhat about the -9?08:44
dom_ftijn_: Belkin routers can do this08:44
MitchMtijn_: I know its possible; but unsure of how to do it with your specific connection.08:44
iwksehi all. Somebody uses moto4lin here??08:44
w30Alzi2, sorry I only am familier with Dapper08:44
Alzi2Hey. How do I enable the TTY's from 8 to 12? I mean, in Upstart (Edgy Eft)... Where is the inittab?08:44
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Alzi2w30: Ok, thanks.08:44
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dom_fCan anyone suggest how I troubleshoot the root partition not showing in df or mount in Edgy?08:44
tijn_MitchM: ok, i will list the possible settings for sharing08:45
tijn_om08:45
tijn_mom*08:45
Belpingcan anyone tell me if there is a bash command to see the network upload and download speed?08:45
shredder_CarinArr maybe you can find some clue at System > Administration > System Monitor08:45
karlhi everyone, new to ubuntu08:45
karland apache08:45
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VR^is it better to usually use the repos "from your country"? would that be faster? i've been experiencing some lag lately with the default repos.08:45
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tijn_MitchM: so its client dependant?08:46
shredder_VR^ smetimes other country repos are faster08:46
MitchMtijn_: its router dependant08:46
shredder_right now I'm downloadin at 34.7kB/s which is very very slow08:47
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tijn_MitchM: yea ok, but the wireless modem doesnt matter right, its about the device i want to act as repeater08:47
karlneed some help. have installed apache2 and changed the port so my friends can reach the root of the ip. how do i ad stuff to the root? tried to just copy into /var/www but it says i dont have the permission, and when i typ to change the permissions it says im not the owner so i cant.. what sould i do?08:47
tijn_if iam correct, and i hope so ;)08:47
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MitchMtijn_: oh - soy ou want your laptop to "relay" the wireless connection?08:47
godmastersomeone know about pgp i have a problem08:47
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godmaster?08:47
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Avaloniachi08:48
godmasteri have a problem when i want to publish my public key08:48
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tijn_MitchM: nope, i mean 'client' like in router which has to connect to the modem over wifi08:48
iwksewhich device uses ubuntu to mount usb stuff?08:48
shredder_karl you need su access to write to apache http docs08:48
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MitchMtijn_: yeah. It depends on the "router" acting as a "wireless client"08:48
tijn_ah ok08:48
karlshredder: how do i get that?08:48
MitchMtijn_: Linksys with cracked firmware can do it easy.08:49
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MitchMtijn_: Cisco makes WGB (Work Group Bridges) just for that purpose08:49
VR^shredder_: how can i check which repos are currently quicker than mine? where do i chose the country?08:49
tijn_in that case, i can let it act as: AP, Station-AD Hoc, Station-Infrastructure, AP Bridge-Point to Point, AP Bridge-Point to Mulipoint, or AP Bridge-WDS08:50
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wsgrimesdoes anyone know how to format the output of  "ls -R /Some/Folder" to display fullpath filenames?08:50
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tijn_i think the correct option is one of these modes, but i dont know which one08:50
Belpingcan anyone tell me if there is a bash command to see the network upload and download speed?08:50
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tijn_Belping: you can use iptraf08:50
humehej igen....08:50
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iterBelping: no, but you can use ntop or bmon to check from console08:51
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Belpingok thanks guys!08:51
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MitchMtijn_: Station-Adhoc would probably be your best bet.08:52
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tijn_YES! MitchM thnx it works :)08:52
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tijn_already had that, but i forgot that i have an acl based on mac08:53
tijn_:)08:53
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MitchMhar har =)08:53
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SensaeI configured fglrx, and now when I restart the X server it's at too high a refresh rate, and after 5 seconds my monitor goes into standby mode. I've played with xorg.conf but can't get the defaults to change.08:54
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axa-axaCan someone please send me /bin/bash file ?08:54
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karldoes anyone know i get the su access shredder talket about?08:54
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natalkahej08:54
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kikokos_hejk08:55
shredder_karl in terminal type sudo nautilus08:55
karlok08:55
shredder_that will give you file manager with root access08:55
shredder_then you can copy whatever you want08:55
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tijn_MitchM: hmm lan ports arent asosiated i think :(08:55
josatorhi08:55
karlshredder_: ok08:55
josatorhow can i block a package to avoid upgrading it?08:56
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SensaeAnyone know how to change the default xorg refresh rate?08:56
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GyrosGeierjosator, by using "hold" or "forbid"08:56
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josatoris a command?08:56
GyrosGeierjosator, depending on what you want to achieve, and how your package manager does that08:57
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josatorapt08:57
gentooHi, does ubuntu use lilo ?08:57
GyrosGeierjosator, aptitude can do both08:57
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josatori want to keep my version of dmraid08:57
kikokos_hi08:57
spazzPP2hi08:57
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apokryphosgentoo: grub by default, but lilo can be used.08:57
GyrosGeierjosator, then "aptitude hold dmraid"08:57
spazzPP2what's thebest partition format?08:57
josatorthanks08:57
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kikokos_could you help me I made new user because ol-user had a bad configuration file08:57
apokryphosspazzPP2: no "best", good for different needs. ext3 is defualt on Ubuntu08:57
josatorit will hold it even if i upgrade to edgy??08:58
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kikokos_now i cannot log in gnome as new user because I have`nt acces to ICE.authority file08:58
spazzPP2I want to store files on it..08:58
gentooapokryphos: can you upload the "standard" menu.lst too a pastebin ? as im not using ubuntu, but i like the menu08:58
GyrosGeierjosator, if you just wanted to skip a known broken version, "forbid" could be used to tell it to ignore that particular version, but upgrade on the next08:58
GyrosGeierjosator, yes08:58
kikokos_has anybody something like this?08:58
josatorok08:58
josatorthx GyrosGeier08:58
GyrosGeierext3 is the best filesystem.08:58
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spazzPP2k thx08:58
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josatoryou are a good person08:59
josator^^08:59
apokryphosgentoo: I don't use the Ubuntu grub menu, but you can get it, and all such files, from packages.ubuntu.com08:59
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GyrosGeierreiser* is not tested well enough, xfs is known to eat data and be slow08:59
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tecloThe damn thing won't work ! For my console to be clean, I need to sudo /etc/init.d/console-setup start after logging in08:59
kikokos_have you seen ICE.authority access denied?08:59
kikokos_:)08:59
apokryphosGyrosGeier: what? reiserfs is *very* very widely used08:59
apokryphosPerhaps you mean reiser409:00
LjLdon't start a filesystem war. ext3 is just the default Ubuntu filesystem, so if you're unsure, use it.09:00
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kikokos_how i see no :P09:00
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godmasteri have a problem with gnu pgp someone can help me ?09:00
Avaloniachow to change soundcard order, making the second default ?09:00
shredder_wars suck... use the default and be happy09:00
apokryphos!anyone09:00
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:00
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dom_fCan anyone suggest how I troubleshoot the root partition not showing in df or mount in Edgy?  I've spent a long while googling and searching ubuntuforums and could do with some help!  More info at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/225809:01
dom_fThx09:01
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Paddy_EIREcan anyone help me with my graphics driver09:01
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Paddy_EIREim using an ati radeon 925009:02
shredder_if its ATI good luck09:02
GyrosGeierdom_f, your /etc/mtab is out of sync with the real world09:02
Paddy_EIRElol09:02
Paddy_EIREi know09:02
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bcnlany suggestions on how to get WPA2 to work with the default network gui?09:02
bcnlor should it "just work"09:02
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tat"just works" here :)09:02
asdxwhy ubuntu don't shipt 6.10 cds?09:02
bcnl:>09:02
dom_fGyrosGeier: I know - however this is constant after each reboot and some things seem to depend on mtab09:02
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Paddy_EIREasdx: because its not LTS09:03
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asdxPaddy_EIRE: so, when the next LTS comes ubuntu will shipt that?09:03
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Paddy_EIREasdx: maybe09:03
shivLjL: u there?09:03
shivLjL: I am trying to boot it with grub09:04
Paddy_EIREasdx: for now dapper is a staple with 3 years support on the desktop and 5 on the server09:04
GyrosGeierdom_f, I don't know the details of that process, given that the root fs is usually mounted with -n I'm actually puzzled it *does* show up09:04
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[Wiebel] hmm09:04
[Wiebel] what if mms streams are blurry with nmplayer and vlc player?09:05
[Wiebel] :)09:05
SensaeAnyone? Changing the refresh rate on Xorg using fglrx?09:05
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St_MPA3bhow can i move trash shourtcut on desktop? (gnome)09:05
St_MPA3bhow can i move trash shourtcut on desktop? (gnome)09:05
djmccormicki installed the bittorrent package with apt-get but i don't seem to have bittorrent-curses. i'm running 6.06 on a command-line only machine. anyone know why it isn't included? will i have to install from source?09:05
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asdxPaddy_EIRE: but dapper drake in 3 years will be pretty old, don't you think?09:05
St_MPA3bhow can i move trash shourtcut _to_ desktop? (gnome)09:05
asdxPaddy_EIRE: unless you upgrade09:05
[Wiebel] St_MPA3b: stop it09:05
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Karark_Sensae, what do you mean?09:05
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nomis_St_MPA3b, in gconf-editor you can select it09:05
dom_fOK - back to basics - does / show up in df on Edgy for anyone else?09:05
Paddy_EIREasdx: yeah well, look at windows xp thats been out for quite a while09:05
St_MPA3b<nomis_> thanks09:06
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Paddy_EIREasdx: i think with the continued updates and a stable version of xgl/compiz dapper will always be fresh09:06
dom_fGyrosGeier:  Didn't know it was mounted with -n09:06
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SensaeKarark_: I apt the fglrx package and got it configured properly, it's working perfectly, but when the X servers starts up I see the ubuntu login screen, my monitor complains about the refresh rate and it goes into standby mode09:06
LjLshiv: and what happens when you try? and, have you moved that NTFS partition around since last time it booted?09:06
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SensaeKarark_: If I log in I can still hear all the sounds and the X server is working, my monitor just can't handle the display settings09:07
Paddy_EIREdoes anyone fancy helping sort out my ati driver09:07
dom_fPaddy - which version of Ubuntu are you using?09:07
Paddy_EIREits a real bit*h09:07
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shivLjL: no I have not moved anything. It used to give me 0x7 error. Now I am just getting - prompt09:07
VornotronTHis morning a package (libpam-ldap) got upgraded on a server of mine, and broke the service.  I'm looking for a changelog that describes the changes it made and am having no luck.09:07
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Karark_Sensae, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:07
Jonyhi09:08
humbraro!wordperfect09:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wordperfect - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:08
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LjLshiv, i'm not sure, perhaps pastebin your /grub/boot/menu.lst09:08
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LjL!fishing09:08
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)09:08
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humbrarohey all.  I'm having an issue with wine:09:08
shivLjL: ok wait09:08
SensaeKarark_: I've tried that09:08
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Karark_Sensae, and what has happened?09:09
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JonyMy Logitech MX5000 don't work in ubuntu Edgy09:09
rc-1i know GNU means GNU not unix but why G?  chosen totally randomly?09:09
GyrosGeierdom_f, it is, because / is readonly at this point, which leads to mount failing because it writes the new mtab to a temp file first, then mounts, then renames09:09
SensaeKarark_: I set it to use fglrx and it kept using the OSS drivers09:09
Jonyhow can i fix it09:09
humbraroI'm trying to install wordperfect office, which depends on IE to install.  I installed ies4linux, but the wordperfect installer doesn't see it09:09
POVaddctrc-1: it's a recursive acronym09:09
djmccormickGyrosGeier: it surely  meant something long ago, maybe the meaning has been lost.09:09
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prestosdHelp@@09:09
prestosd!!!09:09
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prestosdI can't upgrade to 6.1009:09
St_MPA3b<nomis_>can u say name of the folder with that conf file?09:10
djmccormick(i meant to send that to rc-1)09:10
Karark_Sensae, OSS is a sound driver not video09:10
LjLUbotu, please tell prestosd about upgrade09:10
dom_fGyrosGeier: Thanks.  Any idea what else I can check/try?09:10
prestosdum09:10
SensaeKarark_: Wrong term then, I mean the MESA drivers09:10
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nomis_St_MPA3b, im searching right now. i think it was there09:10
prestosdwhen I run the update manager09:10
GyrosGeierdom_f, not really09:10
humbraroand, google isn't helping at all, for once09:10
prestosdit goes fine until the the main stuff09:10
prestosdthen it says09:10
shivLjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29783/09:10
prestosdjust a sec....09:10
donfilipoLjL remember me? troubles with watching media streams from internet....well i reinstaled the Edgy and done by the book and the shit happened again....since gxine was not doing it's job i installed kaffeine and for 20s the thing worked then gxine reapeared again...i deinstaled it but can not convince kafeine mozila plugin to start....the official site is out fo date...any idea how can i get help or should i just wait someone repairs this?09:10
GyrosGeierdom_f, you can always remount it again later09:10
GyrosGeierdom_f, then it should show up09:10
Karark_Sensae, have you rebooted since you did the dpkg... ?09:10
dom_fThanks Anyway - anyone else got any ideas ? (df and mount missing root!)09:10
voiceanyone here know why Ubuntu would not use the swap partition even though the ram is very low?09:11
dom_fSee https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2258 for more details09:11
SensaeI had a strange issue installing kubuntu 6.10, it would hang at 97% while setting up the fs09:11
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SensaeKarark_: I restarted the X server, it was my impression I didn't have to restart the entire system09:11
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nomis_St_MPA3b, /apps/nautilus/desktop/09:11
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LjLdonfilipo, i remember, but really, i've never messed with much with multimedia, not to mention streaming in the browser. i just don't know09:11
Karark_Sensae, you are correct09:11
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St_MPA3b<nomis_> nautilus o_O. I searched in gnome. Thanks.09:11
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Jonyhi i have a problem whit my Logitech MX 5000 on ubuntu 6.10. How can i fix it !!!!!!!!!!!!!09:12
nomis_St_MPA3b, np09:12
dang`r`usminor annoyance: since 6.10 the graphical boot screen is only being shown on my laptop's vga out, not on its native display09:12
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dang`r`usany ideas?09:12
tuxtux_ciao a tutti09:12
dom_fGyrosGeier - wouln't my sudo mount -a attempt to remount it?09:12
Karark_Sensae, are you sure that you selected the correct driver? spacebar selects09:12
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rc-1i knew it was recursive, just trying to think why G would be picked :)09:12
rbilI noticed that the fonts used in xmms's dialog is almost unreadable here. Anyway to fix that?09:12
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rbilseems to be alright on another system configured the same, same hardware, etc. but using 1024x768 res as opposed to 1280x1024 using on this box09:13
LjLshiv, everything seems alright to me... i don't know :\09:13
LjLUbotu, please tell shiv about grub09:13
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rednelbcan I run ubuntu embedded on windows xp?09:13
Karark_Sensae, you can do a 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and see which driver shows up in that file... if it's not the fglrx then you didn't do the dpkg correctly09:13
cartuchorbil: why the hell are you using xmms?09:13
GyrosGeierdom_f, no, -a doesn't do remounts09:13
TC`!flash sound09:13
Jony'hi i have a problem whit my Logitech MX 5000 on ubuntu 6.10. How can i fix it !!!!!!!!!!!!!09:13
cartuchorednelb: you mean run the both oses ?09:14
rbilGyrosGeier: never mind why, I'm looking for a fix09:14
Jonyhelp09:14
TC`how to make audio on flash?09:14
cartuchoJony: dont scream .09:14
TC`flash doesn't make sounds :x09:14
rednelbcartucho: I mean, I boot xp, and I want to run unbuntu within xp09:14
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Karark_rbil, go to the preferences and choose a different font?09:14
rednelbsort of embedded09:14
Jonyso help me !!!!!!!!!!!!!09:14
rbilactually I don't usually use that p.o.s. but need to for soemthing09:14
cartuchorednelb: go for vmware09:14
LjLhumbraro, looking at the Wine application database, i'm not sure i'd classify WordPerfect office as a supported application09:14
cartuchoJony: no, you're to unpolite.09:14
POVaddct!patience09:14
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:14
rednelbcartucho:  I need network support, tho09:14
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rednelbcartucho: http://opensource.sfsu.edu/node/14009:14
cartuchorednelb: it has bridging dupport, it will be transparent09:15
rbilKarark_: nope that just controls the font used in xmms, not xmms's dialog box for changing options, etc.09:15
SensaeKarark_: My net crashed, did you get my last message?09:15
LjLrednelb: vmware has network support09:15
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Karark_Sensae, no i don't believe so09:15
rednelbcartucho oh? good!09:15
Jonydam nis godt help her09:15
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Karark_Sensae, you can do a 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and see which driver shows up in that file... if it's not the fglrx then you didn't do the dpkg correctly09:15
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cartuchorednelb: the main problem is that it is comercial09:15
SensaeKarark_: I said "I restarted the X server, I was under the impression the whole machine didn't need to be restarted"09:15
dom_fOK - GyrosGeier - if I try sudo mount  -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /   I get mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or / busy09:15
cartuchorednelb: but you can work around this at astalavista.box.sk09:15
donfilipoLjL ok someone should warn people and since you are here the most time remember my expirience ...go by the book and install all the gstreamer 0.10 files than not gxine but kaffeine and the thing should probably work...if you mess you must reinstall again....i will not i will wait someone fix ther damn thing cause it worked fine on 6.0609:15
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GyrosGeierdom_f, -o remount09:15
Vornotron...apparently not only did it update, ubuntu.com doesn't know about it yet. :(09:15
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voice06well, there went ubuntu again09:16
LjLJony, you didn't even tell us what the problem is. how do you expect us to fix it?09:16
Karark_Sensae, ok, i got that one and you are right that you don't need to do a reboot09:16
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rbilsomeone suggested in #xmms to fix gtk1 conf, but can't find that file and now he's not answering09:16
cartuchorbil: xmms is a crap09:16
rbilI know09:16
cartuchorbil: go for rhythmbox09:16
rbilI know09:16
voice06can someone help me with a issue involving Ubuntu and the system crashing?09:16
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rednelbcartucho:  well, I've loaded vmware for non-commercial purposes... but then I need the right version of ubuntu that plays nice with vmware09:16
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rbilchrist, I know, but I need to use this09:16
cartuchovoice06: go on09:16
voice06apparently its not using the swap partition09:16
SensaeKarark_: Yeah.. It's driving me crazy.09:16
cartuchovoice06: try swapon on it09:16
voice06and the ram keeps getting maxed out, then ubuntu freezes09:16
cartuchovoice06: try top, and see the swap09:17
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dom_fThat runs OK but still doesn't show up09:17
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Karark_Sensae, did you check your xorg.conf file?09:17
voice06I've tried that, and I've viewed top09:17
TC`when i'm wathincg youtube clips, there's no sound, what to do?09:17
LjLdonfilipo, the wiki guide is definitely broken for Edgy, but i can't edit it unless i know what's the correct way to do it on Edgy, and i don't. i've mentioned the issue in the documentation channel, that's about all i can do09:17
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rbiltroubleshooting something else for a friend who uses it, but on my system the damn dialog box font is almost unreadable09:17
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SensaeKarark_: Check it for? Lemme open VNC.09:17
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cartuchorbil: im gonna guess, try fc-cache09:17
Karark_Sensae, to see if you did the dpkg correctly... look for your driver09:17
cartuchovoice06: cat /proc/meminfo09:17
voice06I had to switch over to my xp parition because Ubuntu keeps freezing09:17
humbraroLjL, I noticed that at winehq09:18
mathiascan somebody help my with my second hard disk?09:18
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cartuchomathias: go on09:18
voice06give me a moment, I'll boot it back into ubuntu09:18
ZaggynlAnyone knows how to get ventrilo working with wine?a09:18
humbraroLjL, however, the install fails on checking for internet explorer, which is installed09:18
donfilipoLjL do that i love to test even if it took me 2 days but now it's time for experts to look at it....thanks anyway09:18
mathiasit doesn't show it me09:18
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SensaeKarark_: Section "Device" Driver "fglrx"09:18
cartuchomathias: is it a ide or sata drive ?09:18
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axa-axaCan someone plese tell me how can I, in relatively easy way, downgrade firefox in EdgyEft from 2.0.x to 1.5.0.7? Many plugins wont work and still dont support version 2.0.x.09:19
cartuchomathias: is it a new hd, i.E blank one09:19
mathiasc09:19
SensaeKarark_: fglrxinfo for display 0 outputs MESA09:19
humbraroLjL, and, at this point, that seems to be the problem, not wordperfect09:19
josatoredgy sucks09:19
Karark_Sensae, well damn, i don't know then... try asking again and see if someone with more knowledge responds09:19
josatorcan not install09:19
josatorin my raid system09:19
shredder_axa-axa,  sudo apt-get remove firefox09:19
LjL!language | josator09:19
ubotujosator: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:19
Karark_Sensae, good luck09:19
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mathiasit worked at my old computer verywell09:19
Sensaejosator: Kubuntu or Ubuntu? I couldn't get Kubuntu Edgy to install09:19
cartuchomathias: ok try this first, dmesg | grep hd*09:19
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josatorubuntu09:19
luzhi. how to start avast with gui?09:19
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SensaeKarark_: :/ Thanks for the help09:19
josatordm-strip09:19
SensaeBoth of the installers kept locking up09:19
H3b0Rhow do i get mx5000 to work with edgy eft?09:20
cartuchowhats mx5000 anyway ?09:20
LjLhumbraro: i don't know. you should try to find out what the wordperfect installer is actually checking for -- isn't there anything in the console (start the installer from a console) that could give a hint?09:20
josator"Target length not divisible by chunck size"09:20
josator"dm-strip: Target length not divisible by chunck size"09:20
SensaeEven moving a window would lock up (K)ubuntu installs, I had to not touch it after clicking install, lol09:20
dom_fCan someone running edgy run mount and confirm that root show up please?09:20
josatorno problems in dapper09:20
mathias??09:20
axa-axashredder: yes, but many packets depend on it, and still the main problem is where can I find package for i386 EdgyEft?09:20
hckrSidAnyone know how to set up acpi to ignore an event?09:20
H3b0Rcartucho, wireless keyboard and mouse09:20
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gentoocan someone send me the content of their /etc/grub.conf if they use the original config from the installer09:21
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humbraroLjL, it doesnt' show anything since its failing "gracefully".  also, there are no switches to the setup.exe to tell it not to check for ie09:21
POVaddctH3b0R: connected via usb?09:21
shredder_axa-axa, you should search for different versions on firefox website09:21
josatorupdate-grup09:21
voice06back09:21
Sensaegentoo: 6.10 or 6.06?09:21
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H3b0RPOVaddict: ye its bluetooth devices09:21
dom_fCan someone running edgy run mount and confirm that root shows up in the list please?09:22
voice06so what am I looking for in the /proc/meminfo?09:22
axa-axashredder: I already did but simply cannot find anything except the last one (2.x)09:22
POVaddctH3b0R: so not usb?09:22
Sensaedom_f: It doesn't for me.09:22
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dom_fSensae - doe sit show up in df?09:22
cartuchovoice06: make a cat in it09:22
LjLhumbraro, try typing    export WINEDEBUG="warn+all"  -   then the Wine output should become a lot more verbose09:22
voice06I have09:22
cartuchovoice06: see if swap is being used09:22
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H3b0RPOVaddict: yes, it worked with dapper, but edgy not...09:22
Sensaedom_f: No.09:22
dom_fThanks Sensae09:22
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josatorwill the ubuntu installer include dmraid support?09:22
cartuchovoice06: cat /proc/meminfo | grep -i swap09:22
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Sensaenp09:23
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Paddy_EIREdoes anyone know where I could get a copy of "libGL.so.109:23
POVaddctH3b0R: i know nothing about bluetooth, not a single bluetooth device here09:23
dom_fCould anyone else runnign Edgy also check this for me please?  (Whether / shows up in df and mount)09:23
humbraroLjL, will do, thanks09:23
voice06SwapCached:          0 kB09:23
voice06SwapTotal:      409648 kB09:23
voice06SwapFree:       409648 kB09:23
Sensaedom_f: / shows up09:23
holzmodemhab ein problem mit meinen Usb Stick (Philips goGear) unter windows wird er erkannt lsst sich aber nicht formatieren, wie kann ich ihn unter ubuntu formatieren (wird nicht automatsich erkannt)09:23
Sensaedom_f: In both.09:23
cartuchovoice06: dont paste in channel u can paste to me if you want09:23
dom_fThanks Sensae09:23
Sensaedom_f: np again. :p09:23
voice06sorry09:23
LjLjosator: some googling seems to tell me that that's an issue with Nvidia chipsets with kernels > 2.6.1609:24
tiededom_f, / shows up for me in both too09:24
tijn_holmodem: join #unbuntu-de09:24
josatorit is a via chipset09:24
SensaeAnyone with a bit more xorg knowledge feel like helping me? My driver is set to fglrx but Xorg prefers to run with MESA anyway.09:24
josatorLjL, I know, i was just frustrated09:24
dom_fAnyone got any more ideas (I'm ripping my hair out!)  See https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2293 for details.  Thanks.09:25
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josatorLjL, http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/10/12/109:25
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SensaeAnyone know the fine details of setting refresh rate in xorg.conf?09:26
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cyzieanyone have experience in gnuplot ? how do i set the scale so that it is always 5minutes apart?09:26
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LjLjosator: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/5424609:26
computaMikehey all - hope everyone here is doing well09:26
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Karark_Sensae, you can see the refresh rates available in xorg.conf09:27
josatorSensae, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then put your horSync And Vert parameters of your monitor09:27
josator(if it is not autodetected)09:27
SensaeI guess I'll try it again09:27
SensaeLast time I was having problems with it being out of range of my monitor09:27
dom_fAnyone got any more ideas (I'm ripping my hair out!)  See https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2293 for details.  Thanks.09:28
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cartuchodom_f: fstab ?09:28
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MrKeunerhi, isn't real player in ubuntu repositories anymore? Why is that?09:28
computaMikeCan I ask - I am trying to compile (make) Asterisk from source - I downloaded the source from the Digium site, and have downloaded the development tools for Ubuntu - however I keep getting the error : You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.15-26-server kernel installed.  Apt-get only shows sources for 2.4 kernel..  I'm running 6.06 Server09:28
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rbilwhat's a good mp3 player that allows for easy drag and drop of selected mp3s?09:29
KannixHi all!09:29
cartuchorhythmbox09:29
rbiltoo much09:29
MrKeunerrbil: xmms09:29
rbilsomething like xmms, but not that p.o.s.09:29
Karark_rbil, beep-media-player?09:29
The_Machineneed some help with vmware if anyone has a moment09:29
KannixQuick question: Does evolution use the "maildir" format? So if I backup my ~/Mail folder, will it be able to read it?09:29
cartuchoif your xmms is broken go for bmplayer09:29
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LjLbeep media player+09:29
fydoyeah, xmms is the suck09:29
LjL!language09:29
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:29
cartuchoKannix: i think yes try to add an account and see the options09:30
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donfilipoMrKeuner it's not but it is not hard to get and instaltion instruction's are there just don't forget the sudo09:30
cartuchoKannix: but your mail is not in imap format is ? so wont work09:30
fydoLjL: was that directed towards me?09:30
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fydoor rbil?09:30
HexstreamHi, I'm looking for the best way to remap the enter, tab, and right-ctrl keys. I already found some mappings in /usr/share/keymap, but alas the mappings for those keys doesn't seem to happen in those files.09:30
Kannixcartucho: I do not have evolution yet. I am planning to flatten my SuSE/KDE box for an ubuntu 6.10 with gnome/evolution.09:30
MrKeunerdonfilipo: do you mean as a deb package09:30
MrKeunerdonfilipo: or their own binary09:30
Kannixcartucho: But I do not want to lose all my email.09:31
donfilipoMrkeuner no as bin file from real09:31
cartuchoKannix:  the easy and dirty way to do it is to send everything to gmail and get back09:31
LjLit was directed towards the swearing i've seen in the last few minutes. you all know what you said, so09:31
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josatorLjL, thx09:31
ianmacgregor!devede09:31
POVaddctKannix: if you want to stay with kde, you can also try kubuntu09:31
ubotudevede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB09:31
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metellusany idea how I can make the edgy install cd use my nvidia card instead of integrated graphics?09:31
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KannixPOVaddct: Nope, I want to switch to Gnome. It has the nice paw ... and it is C-based. I like C. C++ is for ... well, for KDE :)09:32
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whazillahey09:32
POVaddctKannix: hehe, okay09:32
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fydoLjL: i think i missed something.. where is the swearing?09:32
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donfilipoMrkeuner and it works even in 6.10 if you only need that09:32
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izaskunhola09:32
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voice06anyone here know what would prevent Ubuntu from using the swap partition?09:33
ianmacgregorWhy does the bot say devede is in multiverse but s earch in Synaptic shows nothing for devede (and yes, I have multiverse enabled)?09:33
freach`Kannix: evolution supports it i think, if not, copy your mails to an pop3d which supports maildir format an pop it09:33
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cartuchovoice06: i've just told you how to fix your problem09:33
POVaddctvoice06: permanently or temporary?09:33
whazillacan somebody help me ... with my networkin trouble ?09:33
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hav0kdoes anyone know anything about compiz with an ati card?09:33
Kannixfreach`: That might be an option. But really, it makes me wonder why nobody has found a nice universal mail backup method yet.09:33
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black_13does the kernel that you choose affect compilation of C/C++ based executeables?09:33
grogoreohow can I get my ~/bin folder to let me run scripts from it in the command line without having to put ~/bin/script.sh. I've had it work before in another distro ages ago09:33
cartuchohav0k: use XGL and beryl it works.09:33
whazillahav0k try #ubuntu-xgl09:34
cartuchogrogoreo:  env | grep PATH09:34
hav0kcartucho, how?09:34
freach`Kannix: you will never find any universal thing in linux09:34
Kannixfreach`: I mean, at least the "open source" progs should be user friendly and make switching applications hassle free.09:34
voice06cartucho, your instructions made no sense09:34
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segfault_grogoreo, add ~/bin to ur path09:34
dom_fMY / file system doesn't show up in df or mount - anyone got any ideas?09:34
hav0kthanks whazilla09:34
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freach`Kannix: everyone wants to cook for themselve09:34
LjLfydo, i'm not making a list. i just invoked !language, and i didn't even address anyone specifically. no need to argue.09:34
cartuchovoice06: your interpretations made no sense09:34
whazillaanybody know howto solve networkin trouble in ubuntu ?09:34
aMickeHi, i have some weird problems with my wirless card... The drivers, ipw3945 are installed and i can find networks but when i try to connect to my network in network-manager get "connection failed" even if the network is open, not encrypted, I have searched in the foums and on google but haven't been able to find an answear so please help me.09:34
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Kannixfreach`: Yeah, like TCP/IP is not universal. Or HTTP.09:34
voice06theres no other way for me to explain it09:34
grogoreothanks cartucho and segfault_09:34
fydoLjL: I was just wonder why !language was invoked is all09:34
computaMikeany ideas how to install the kernel source?09:35
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cartuchovoice06:  IF you have something in /proc/meminfo like SWAP TOTAL, and SWAP USED it is using swap09:35
hav0kcartucho, do i have to uninstall my compiz, cause i had its set up on dapper09:35
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Kannixfreach`: There is a LSB :)09:35
skshi at all... no one has installed kubuntu on a notebook and can hear audio only from headset and not from internal speakers? Please help..09:35
voice06Ubuntu is not using the swap partition, causing my ram to max out, freezing Ubuntu09:35
cartuchohav0k: probably not, there is a how to, just look for it in google, and try #ubuntu-xgl09:35
freach`Kannix: as log as human selffish stupid crap bla exist you will never find real universal protocols or software09:35
kmaynardsks, nope09:35
POVaddctvoice06: which partition is it?09:35
Kannixsks: What exactly is your question?09:35
kmaynardsks, what kind of notebook09:35
whazillaanybody know howto solve networkin trouble in ubuntu ?09:35
sksi have asus l1b09:35
cartuchovoice06: swapon /dev/partitiion09:35
Kannixfreach`: I agree. But we could try?09:35
grogoreowhere can I add bin to my path. I don't really want to put it on for the whole system, just really my user. Do I add it in the .bashrc? PATH=~/bin09:36
Kannixwhazilla: What kind of trouble?09:36
cartuchovoice06: but ubuntu is probably using the swap, its just another thing, cause when memory AND swap runs out, OS begins to kill stuff09:36
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cartuchogrogoreo: ~/.bashrc09:36
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hckrSidAnyone know how I can set up acpi to ignore a certain event?09:36
sksi can hear audio from the jack in the front, but no from the internal speakers...09:36
whazillagot an ip ... but no route to host09:36
whazillaeven not to router09:36
freach`Kannix: LSB is the best joke i ever heared, i think the lsb exists a long time, but redhat or suse still do their own lsb09:36
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voice06POV hda309:37
fydoLjL: just curious, do you think 'suck' is a swear word? ;)09:37
POVaddctvoice06: sudo swapon /dev/hda309:37
grogoreocartucho: thanks. So can I just add:   PATH=~/bin  or do I have to enter all of this before hand: PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games09:37
ianmacgregorgrogoreo: /bin should already be in your path09:37
whazillaonly if u suck ;)09:37
voice06did, said the device is busy09:37
computaMikesks - a thought but is there a BIOS thing  that prevents the speakers from working?09:37
cartuchogrogoreo: try PATH+=09:37
abhijitbanyone -> how to make realplayer the default player09:37
POVaddctvoice06: cat /proc/swaps09:37
skswhazilla: asus l1b...09:37
ianmacgregorgrogoreo: It's already there, look at what you posted.09:37
grogoreoianmacgregor: I want bin in my home directory. Thanks cartucho09:37
kmaynardsks, worth looking here  http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=939702209:37
Kannixfreach`: oh well. That's the way it goes then.09:37
skscomputaMike: no, if i start knoppix live cd it works fine...09:38
whazillawhat about asus lib ?09:38
ianmacgregorgrogoreo: Ahh, ok, you didn't make that distinction so I misunderstood.09:38
SensaeI just went through and reconfigured the X server, and it's running fine with my different settings, but fglrx outputs this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29785/09:38
Kannixfreach`: I still think a better way to exchange mail backups between different MUA would be a nice to have.09:38
Sensaeerm, fglrxinfo09:38
luzquestion: does ubuntu has firewall installed with system?09:38
freach`Kannix: but there is hope, as long as projects like debian or ubuntu exists, there is hope for a better world ;)09:38
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cartucholuz: just install iptables09:38
whazillahow can i debug my networkin trouble ?09:38
Kannixfreach`: Yeah, that's why I want to join in :)09:38
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NET||abusewhat's a good ircd package?? one that's pretty nice to run and configure?09:38
grogoreoianmacgregor: well I did but ~ before the /bin09:38
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grogoreo*put09:38
Kannixfreach`: ETA of my .iso is 34 min :)09:38
metellusanyone know how I can make the edgy install cd use my nvidia card instead of integrated graphics?09:39
freach`Kannix: dapper or edgy ?09:39
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Kannixfreach`: edgy.09:39
computaMikeCan I ask - I am trying to compile (make) Asterisk from source - I downloaded the source from the Digium site, and have downloaded the development tools for Ubuntu - however I keep getting the error : You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.15-26-server kernel installed.  Apt-get only shows sources for 2.4 kernel..  I'm running 6.06 Server09:39
cartuchocome on bring it on today is care day09:39
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Kannixfreach`: I am a debian-unstable guy :)09:39
skskmaynard: thanks, is a good site... i go there and read all... i'll back in a few...09:39
SensaeHeh, I'm pretty impressed with Ubuntu, especially Edgy. I used to use Gentoo, I don't think I'm gonna be going back, lol.09:39
freach`Kannix: hmm i'm not very pleased with edgy09:39
LjLfydo: yup. well, depends on the context.09:39
Kannixfreach`: why?09:39
cartuchocomputaMike: either compile a 2.6 and  break the hole system or change distros09:40
freach`Kannix: lot of problems09:40
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computaMikebut the 6.06 Ubuntu is 2.6 isn;t it?09:40
SensaeAnyone? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29785/ <-- fglrxinfo outputs that, although my xorg.conf says driver "fglrx"09:40
fydoLjL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_profane_words09:40
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Kannixfreach`: I have it running on my notebook. No problems (besides getting WPA WLAN to run, that was a bit of a strain).09:40
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cartuchocomputaMike: i dont know, google for it, apt-cache search kernel09:40
SensaeIs that first error anything to worry about / causing problems?09:40
cartuchoKannix: install nm applet09:40
hckrSidAny acpi experts here?09:40
cartuchoKannix: works like windows09:40
computaMikeright - i'll try google - thanks everyone09:41
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freach`Kannix: ubuntu team said edgy is the developer guys super multimedia platform, but the stuff that does not work ist actually multimedia09:41
donfilipoabhijitb i am trying that for 2 days to achieve for real for ram's and for kaffeine for other files09:41
whazilla!network09:41
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:41
cartuchofreach`:  you mean the dvd playback ?09:41
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hckrSid!acpi09:41
ubotuacpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)09:41
cartuchofreach`: i bet you didnt installed mplayer09:41
freach`Kannix: problems with DVB tuner card, problems with sound card, problems with graphic card09:41
freach`cartucho: no i mean dvb tuner09:42
freach`cartucho: for dvb-t tv09:42
cartuchooh, ok09:42
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freach`cartucho: i am a mplayer slave i do not use anything else09:42
cartuchofreach`:  yep me too,09:42
Sensae-sighs- So hard to get help in here, though when I do it's good help09:42
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cartuchofreach`: since slackware 7.009:43
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freach`cartucho: problem is dvb interfaces are rare buggy and so is dvb, not rare but buggy09:43
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cartuchofreach`: i really avoid fancy hardware and stuffs09:43
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freach`cartucho: mplayer got one too, on my dapper setopbox with mythtv i got no problems with it, but on edgy i wonder if something works09:44
shivLjL: Can u help me with this https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/10661/comments/909:44
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Dragonfire1HI09:44
cartuchocut the caps09:44
shivLjL: I got the parted iso09:45
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SensaeCould someone tell me if the error in fglrxinfo could be the cause of my problems? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29785/09:45
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Seeker2599anyone know of a program i can use to run a windows program on ubuntu09:45
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ZaggynlCan someone give me a hand with getting my microphone to work again?09:45
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cartuchoSensae: your driver is not setup09:46
DreggerSeeker: Use WINE.09:46
freach`Seeker2599: wine ... and co09:46
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rc-1my grahics card is totally fried, bios displays badly, ubuntu boots, but crashes, and windows wont boot is it possible to use my motherboards graphics09:46
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MitchMhehe =)09:46
Seeker2599can i get wine with apt get?09:46
cartuchoSensae: try this: grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:46
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Sensaecartucho: What command sets it up, do you know?09:46
ZaggynlSeriously, my mic worked before09:46
freach`Seeker2599: yes09:46
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Seeker2599ok ty09:46
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xeroxHiya.09:46
Zaggynlright now I can hear myself talking EVEN after I muted my mic in alsamixer09:46
Sensaecartucho: driver "fglrx"09:46
cartuchoSensae: see if it returns something09:46
MitchMseeker2599: If you ever have a package question try apt-cache search first =)09:46
DreggerAlright, guys, I've got a ridiculously stupid question.09:46
cartuchoSensae: did you put the Composite "disable" line ?09:47
DreggerI can't figure out how to do landscape orientation in Edgy.09:47
MitchMhmm; not familiar with the program Zaggynl =(.09:47
DreggerFor printing.09:47
Zaggynldarn09:47
MitchMHave you tried using a different mixer09:47
MitchM?09:47
tuxtux_reboot09:47
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rc-1please someone help me before it crashes :(09:47
bigslamlol09:48
DreggerWhere's the page orientation option in the Edgy printing dialogue?  I converted a PDF to 2x1, but I can't actually get it to print out right.09:48
Kannixfreach`: What hardware? I have no problems with sound or graphics and I do not own a DVB card.09:48
bobbyyuBesides defining my shares to my other Windows computer, what else do I have to do in order to make my shares availalble to my Windows computer?09:48
bigslamoh what kind of dvb card?09:48
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MitchMrc-1: Probably a capacitor on the motherboard going out. If its under warranty try and replace it =).09:48
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MitchMrc-1: and uh-- backup all your important stuff.09:49
holzmodemhi im want install Java6 JDK on EdgyEft, is there a deb Paackage avaiable?09:49
rc-1MitchM: thanks! my warrenty expires.... i think very soon if not already, going to call them now09:49
pianoboy3333Anyone here a developer of deluge?09:49
crimsunholzmodem: no, but you can make one with java-package09:49
cartuchopianoboy3333: try me09:49
MitchMrc-1: A dell?09:49
POVaddctholzmodem: did you get your usb stick problem solved?09:49
bobbyyuWhat do I have to do to make my computer recognise my Linux Samba shares?09:50
bobbyyuI mean my other computer09:50
pianoboy3333cartucho: ok, kool, how is deluge natively implemented putting the app in the taskbar, in contrast to using egg.trayicon?09:50
MitchMrc-1: If it's the motherboard you can probably find a cheap replacement under $100 to fix it right up.09:50
cyzieanyone have experience in gnuplot ? how do i set the scale so that it is always 5minutes apart?09:50
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rc-1MitchM: yup, had it about a year, had 2 hard drives go bad, this, and other bad stuff :(09:50
bobbyyuBecause the only tool that's on Ubuntu is "Shared Folders"09:50
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bigslamor rc you can track down the problem on the mobo and repair it09:50
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MitchMrc-1: Bet you the harddrive's went corrupt because of the bad motherboard =)09:50
rc-1im REALLY surprised ubuntu is almost OK when even the BIOS doesnt work hehe09:50
pestilencewhat kind of software do people use to create vector graphics, like adobe illustrator09:51
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MitchMrc-1: ah yes. Must love the linux kernel.09:51
MitchMrc-1: Probably all your problems originated at the motherboard before.09:51
bigslamyes pestilence09:51
hangfirepestilence- Xara Xtreme is really good, its in add/remove programs09:51
bobbyyuDid anyone read my problem?09:51
MitchMrc-1: Could be also related to a bad power-supply.09:51
pestilencehangfire, ok, i'll check it out09:51
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pestilencebigslam, huh?09:51
sam_ubtoohi09:51
MitchMrc-1: Where the power-supply is destroying stuff... i.e hd's; and now your MB.09:52
rc-1at least i got lucky and JUST got a 500 GB external HD :) GNU game im developing, and tons of music backing up!!!09:52
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holzmodemPOVaddct, yes09:52
bigslamyes you use adobe illustrator to creat vector logos,graphics,ect ect09:52
bigslamcreate09:52
DreggerIs there a program I can use to rotate the pages in a PDF file?09:52
MitchMrc-1: Have dell send you a new powersupply also.09:52
sam_ubtoo:)does anyone know here wahts going on with the SCIM?09:52
POVaddctholzmodem: what was the problem? odd partitioning?09:52
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beligumhow do I batch-copy a file to a server, using ftp ?09:52
pestilencebigslam, i mean....what kind of open source programs do people use :)09:52
pestilencebigslam, of course people use illustrator...but i don't have that.09:52
hangfirehozmodem, Xara is more powerfull than Illustrator, Illustrator is big only because of big marketing09:52
rc-1MitchM: i dont know whats wrong, all i know is that it freezes once, i have to hard reboot, and then 1 min when i  turn it back on LOUD fan noise and smoke09:52
rokerrShould I be surprised that the Nvidia graphics driver in Add/Remove Software breaks X?09:52
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sam_ubtoo????????????????????????????????????????????????????09:53
rc-1almost had a heart attack09:53
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rokerrrc-1: new powersupply09:53
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cilynxDregger: pdf90, it's part of the pdfjam package09:53
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whazillaanyhow ... anyway to debug my network trouble ?09:53
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bigslamoh lol09:53
DreggerThanks!09:53
MitchMrc-1: Bad power-supply which surged a capacitor on your motherboard which is now causing your video-problems.09:53
bigslamcheck sf.net09:53
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pestilencehangfire, it's xaralx ?09:53
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sam_ubtooANYONE know anything about SCIM?????09:53
MitchMrc-1: Not a good situation =)09:53
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frohwhy has Ctrl+Alt+Keypad-Plus stopped working after upgrading to edgy?09:54
pestilence!scim09:54
ubotuChinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM09:54
hangfireno Xara Xtreme09:54
cartuchowow back09:54
MitchMrc-1: Hopefully your still under waranty09:54
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leafwI have a powermac with dual processor. Ubuntu-edgy-ppc installed just fine, but lshw reports my second CPU is disabled. ??? Any clues on how to activate it?09:54
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sam_ubtooubotu i know what it is   i want to know why it aint working.09:54
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pestilencehangfire, there isn't a package by that name, this is the closest i find:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/graphics/xaralx09:55
rc-1is it safe to keep using ubuntu (im going to do a complete reinstall after this) (ie. could haveing the comp on damage any other components>09:55
cartucholeafw: why would you use ubuntu if you've goy a mac, im just curious09:55
jorgpany eta on feisty uploads?09:55
hangfirepestilence, look in add/remove programs, under graphics09:55
sam_ubtoopestilencedo you know why my input method aint working   it was working on the older version U i was running..09:55
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whazilla!how do i diable network modules ?09:55
pestilencehangfire, ah...when you load up xaralx it comes up with the name "xara extreme" so it must be the same thing09:55
HymnToLifecould anyone help me out with a DNS server ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=170028409:55
MitchMrc-1: Yes. But turning the computer off/on repeatedly will do more damage.09:55
hangfirek09:55
pestilencesam_ubtoo, no clue....sorry09:55
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whazilla!how do i diable network modules ?09:55
sam_ubtoo:-[09:55
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MitchMrc-1: I'd either leave it on to do what you want; or just shut it off.09:55
cartuchowhazilla:  rmmod ?09:56
sam_ubtoodoes anyone here use SCIM09:56
finalbeta_IS there an IDE that support perl with code completion? Like if I wanted to use dbus, it would tell me what methods are available for me.09:56
kmaynardwhazilla, are you trying to ask the bot?09:56
leafwcartucho : macs are not as flexible as linux.09:56
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MitchMrc-1: May work fine... but if its a bad Power Supply you can end up damaging a lot more things...09:56
rc-1MitchM: wish i could just leave it on :( keeps crashing09:56
whazillahow do i disable network modules ? ... rmmod eth0 ?09:56
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cartucholeafw: oh ok, i can see you are new :)09:56
MitchMrc-1: aye. Not good.09:56
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pestilencewhazilla, edit /etc/network/interfaces09:56
leafwcartucho : and linux runs FASTER (blender rendering for one)09:57
MitchMrc-1: Backup you stuff. Shut 'er down and call dell.09:57
pestilencewhazilla, ifdown eth009:57
MitchMyour*09:57
rc-1wierd video defects too, like my mouse has a floating menu next to it, video is half lines like the bois, etc09:57
cartuchowhazilla: ifconfig down09:57
leafwcartucho : I;'ve been using linux and openbsd for 5 years. ??09:57
RememberPOLHey, is it possible to upgrade from 6.06.1 LTS to 6.10?09:57
rc-1MitchM: k thanks for the help and advice, doing now09:57
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cartucholeafw: and still prefers it over a mac, your choice man :)09:57
kmaynard!upgrade > RememberPOL09:57
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MitchMrc-1: Yup, anytime =)09:57
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leafwcartucho : precisely.09:57
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cartucholeafw: so the BSD comp is not enough ? neither the freebsd userland ?09:58
RememberPOLkmaynard: Will Firefox 2.0 be released for 6.06 LTS ?09:58
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cartuchoRememberPOL: probably no09:58
leafwcartucho : so, any clues on why my second processor is not running? Does ubuntu not suport smp on macs?09:58
kmaynardRememberPOL, i dunno, but it's easy to get the package from mozilla.com and use it09:58
cartucholeafw: really dont know, ppc support is allways kinda messed uop09:58
RememberPOLcartucho: So the "Long term support" only implies security patches?09:58
leafwcartucho : I run mol from time to time, for two apps: photoshop and indesign.09:59
cartuchoRememberPOL: kinda, no major version changing09:59
cartucholeafw: i wish i had a mac, its just to expensive here09:59
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cartuchoRememberPOL: "probably"09:59
xeroxAnybody is running ubuntu on an intel iMac?09:59
SensaeArgh this is driving me crazy.09:59
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lostboyzwhat is the best way to upgrade to edgy for xubuntu?10:00
cartuchoSensae: Composite line what is it ?10:00
xeroxLast time I tried grub messed up something and I had to use the os x cd to make os x boot again.10:00
hangfirepestilence- lucky your using Linux, because you have to pay for Xara in Windows http://www.xara.com/10:00
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Sensaecartucho: Exactly what you posted10:00
leafwcartucho : old macs are currently being thrown away here, if you want one come get it.10:00
pestilencehangfire, it does indeed seem pretty nice.  i think i'll use it :)10:00
cartuchoSensae: is it DISABLED or 0 ?10:00
whazillawhat is a need to have in host file tobe able todo networkin ?10:00
earthianis there any chance to have another kernel version for ubuntu edgy ????? the current kernel is too buggy!10:00
cartucholeafw: buy me the ticket :)10:01
HoagieHey. I just got my Dapper Drake CD in the mail, but when I start the computer to boot it off the CD, it just hangs for a while, then goes straight to OS selection. Does my CD drive hate me, or is something else wrong?10:01
Sensaecartucho: Option "Composite" "Disable"10:01
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Roger_The_Bumearthian: did you upgrade, or do a fresh install?10:01
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cartucho       Driver      "fglrx"10:01
cartucho        Option      "VideoOverlay" "on"10:01
cartucho        Option      "OpenGLOverlay" "off"10:01
cartuchoand this ?10:01
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finalbeta_earthian, if it's buggy, patches will be released, and they might get backported.10:01
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whazillawhat is a need to have in host file tobe able todo networkin ?10:01
SessionHow can I check if I have an IRQ conflict?10:02
Sensaecartucho: Should all of those be in Section "Device" ?10:02
earthianRoger_The_Bum kernel 2.6.17 does not work with dmraid ... and my raid array is not working without dmraid10:02
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cartuchoSensae: yes10:02
LjLUbotu, please tell cartucho about paste10:02
subposeJhello10:02
cartuchoLjL: i know, my mistake10:02
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earthianfinalbeta_ there is 2.6.18.1 kernel.. why not use that one?10:02
leafwcartucho : found the answer to my problem, if you're interested10:02
LjLyou're excused10:02
judhey booting in recovery mode with edgy results with a root terminal???? isnt that a problem????10:02
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Sensaecartucho: Those last two, VideoOverlay and OpenGLOverlay are missing, I'll add them and restart the X server10:02
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cartucholeafw: ah no thanks i prefer not remembering macs exists10:03
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whazilla!host file10:03
earthiani just have no idea how to make initrd image so that my freshly compiled kernel would load dmraid before trying to mount rootfs10:03
rokerrleafw: old macs for free? :)10:03
Roger_The_Bumcartucho: >_<10:03
leafwrokerr : yes.10:03
erUSULearthian: with mkinitrd??10:03
Roger_The_Bumleafw: which processor?10:03
whazilla!no route10:03
rokerrleafw: i don't suppose it's anywhere near me. haha10:03
leafwRoger_The_Bum : several, mostly dual processor G4 500Mhz10:03
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rokerrsolid10:03
cartuchowhazilla: oh god what is your problem anyway ?10:03
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leafwit's in Dresden, Germany.10:04
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POVaddctleafw: that's where i live10:04
rokerrleafw: shucks10:04
pianoboy3333cartucho: so?10:04
earthianerUSUL I do not know :P i have never made one and the howtos over the net are not quite concrete on how to make the initial ram fs just to load i.e. one package like dmraid... i just need dmraid there?10:04
cartuchopianoboy3333: so what friend ?10:04
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SessionIs there a command that check's if IRQ is in conflict? Can't get my network working. Suspect IRQ trouble. Had the same problem a few years ago on the same machine10:04
leafwPOVaddct : then line up for a rendering machine (but it may be too slow for POV)10:04
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whazillacartucho i get connection ... but cant ping router10:04
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pianoboy3333cartucho: how is deluge natively implemented putting the app in the taskbar, in contrast to using egg.trayicon?10:04
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POVaddctleafw: yeah, i think so :)10:05
HoagieHey. I just got my Dapper Drake CD in the mail, but when I start the computer to boot it off the CD, it just hangs for a while, then goes straight to OS selection. Does my CD drive hate me, or is something else wrong? Anyone?10:05
cartuchopianoboy3333: i dont have any ideia i was joking10:05
whazillai got a faulty vmnet1 interface i need to get rid off10:05
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whazillait uses loopback10:05
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subposeJHi I just tryed ubuntu 6.10 from cd but it says theres that problem with my xserver loading... for an ati x600, can anyone help?10:05
cartuchowhazilla: pvt10:05
whazillaonly loopback has same ip as router10:05
pianoboy3333cartucho: .... this isn't a place for jokes, go to #ubuntu-offtopic for that10:05
dimakahi10:05
erUSULearthian: why not just compile dmraid in and not as module??10:05
Seeker2599do i run wine in the terminal?10:05
SessionHoagieL: Go into your bios with delete button and choose boot from cdrom10:05
POVaddctwhazilla: sudo ifconfig vmnet1 down10:05
Sensaecartucho: No more error but it's still running MESA10:05
leafwPOVaddct : they make fine servers, with the dual processor.10:05
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lostboyzhow is upgrading i am trying to upgrade to edgy does gksu "update-manager -c" work well?10:05
cartuchoSensae: read /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:06
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HoagieSession: Thanks, I'll give it a go10:06
earthianerUSUL!?? is there a dmraid thing IN KERNEL? erm.. heh.. u sure?10:06
cartuchoSensae: look for a line that says disabling dri10:06
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erUSULearthian: 'mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.xxx.img 2.6.xxx'10:06
dkrlostboyz: worked for me (mostly)10:06
earthianif yea.. where?10:06
earthiani will compile it in10:06
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leafwall one needed was the linux image powerpc-smp, which for some misterious reason was not the one the installer had chosen.10:06
dimakasorry, some body knows any russian or ukrainian irc channels with ubuntu support?10:06
lostboyzdkr what did you have to tweek10:06
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dimaka   ?10:06
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Seeker2599do i run wine in the terminal?10:07
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Sensaecartucho: I filtered to show just dri and see nothing that says that10:07
ianmacgregorIs anyone else having a problem where running winecfg in Dapper freezes the entire system?10:08
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cartuchoSensae: try not case sensitive10:08
subposeJNot sure... I need to know how to get to a command line from a black screen with a flashing cursor, so that i can enter any commands?10:08
erUSULearthian: not sure checking now10:08
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cartuchoSensae: its grep -i10:09
subposeJ<--- totally new to ubuntu and linux/unix...10:09
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variantdoes anyone else have firefox create a netstat zombie process on their system? I have had that issue for YEARS and I have seen it mentiond on various google hits.. to check please do ps aux | grep netstat10:10
firebird619What is recommended as far as partitions for doing a clean install of Dapper? In the past I just went with what Ubuntu did, but now beings I'm doing a clean install, thought I'd ask what if anything else was recommended.10:10
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Sensaecartucho: I see DRI init failed. Screen 0 is not DRI capable.10:10
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Admiral_ChicagosubposeJ: open up a terminal10:10
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SessionCan anyone tell me how to check for IRQ collisions?10:10
variantfirebird619: /boot / /home /var /tmp all valid for seperate parititons.. but it really depends on what you want10:11
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jud<subposeJ>  that is called tilda10:11
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subposeJI only have one machine and no lan10:11
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judjust install tilda10:11
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judbut its not stable....10:11
variantfirebird619: i would go with /boot (100mb) swap (500mb)  / (5gb) /home (the rest)10:11
variantfirebird619: thats for a generic desktop system10:11
subposeJis tilda like telnet?10:11
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variantfirebird619: and set /boot to be noauto in fstab  as there is no reason to have it mounted (you will have to rememebr to mount /boot before doing upgrades though)10:12
bronzeSubhuman: yes...10:12
earthianerUSUL the mkinitrd -o output file tell me something that my /dev/mapper/via_kfsadf5 partition is not a lvm volume group or so... it is a swap partition.10:12
bronzesubposeJ: yes10:12
agoDo you know if ubuntu edgy package of mythtv was built with joystick support?10:12
firebird619variant:Ok, Thanks. I had Edgy installed but have had nothing but problems, specifically with graphics, etc. so going to try Dapper again.10:12
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earthianboot is ../via_sdfasd1, swap is 5 and root is 610:12
judno telnet is a terminal on desktop.... like firstpersonshooter games10:13
variantfirebird619: you running ubuntu now?10:13
judtilda i mean10:13
sticazzihello! anyone know an alternative for MS project that I can use on linux?10:13
ianmacgregor!info tilde10:13
ubotuPackage tilde does not exist in any distro I know10:13
weedarHas anyone here used UVC to get a new webcam to work in Ubuntu? I need a few pointers how to get it working :)10:13
ianmacgregor!tilde10:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tilde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:13
earthiansticazzi ms project under wine >:D10:13
hangfirelongshot question, but is there a place to download the Dapper login .wav file? I hate the new Edgy login10:13
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judapt-get install tilda10:13
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firebird619variant: No, wiped the drive clean and going to install Dapper. I am on my Windows machine right now.10:13
variantfirebird619: ok10:13
bronzesubposeJ: both are "terminal connection to the system"  in that sense, for your purposes they are similar.10:13
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sticazziearthian, it's kinda expencive10:13
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erUSULearthian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto#head-6dd3fe67c8a7ec379d22fd2e6de9b3cf99a47f7e10:14
jzzatdoes anyone know where i can get drivers for the stylistic 1200 for ubuntu, like stuff for the pen10:14
iterok I have a hoary install that I would like to upgrade to edgy-- should I go hoary-->dapper-->edgy or just hoary-->edgy10:14
dkrlostboyz: my upgrade aborted at one point and I had to start over.  second time it ran fine, though.  might have just been because I left it running overnight10:14
crimsuniter: the former10:14
erUSULearthian: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dmraid10:14
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firebird619variant: Do you know if there are known issues with Edgy and graphics? I have built-in Intel i810.10:14
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Davieysticazzi, i am using 'planner' right now10:14
variantcan somone please run "ps aux | grep netstat" and tell me if netstat shows with a "z" (for zombie) this is getting a bit annoying10:14
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notwistiter: i dont think you can skip one...10:14
itercrimsun: any rationale ?10:14
judfor ms project .. there is planner10:14
crimsuniter: in fact, that's not sufficient. You want hoary->breezy->dapper->edgy10:14
bronzesubposeJ: teknet primary purpose, however it to let you connect to other systems, not your own.. :-)10:14
Sensae>.<10:14
lostboyzah ok thanks dkr for responding10:14
Davieysticazzi, It does GANTT charts10:14
bronzes/teknet/tlenet10:14
variantfirebird619: i use edgy (have don for months) with built in radeon 7000 and it works flawlessly10:14
jckdckhi - i'm a ubuntu newbie - i'm having trouble with my wireless. I can see my network in the network manager - but it doesn't seem to connect (takes ages 'activating wlan0')10:14
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sticazziDaviey, thanks -- that's pretty much what I need10:15
jckdckdoes anyone know what this is/might be ?10:15
ArneMHi everybody - I'm missing the device-file for my parallel port in Edgy (It was called parport0 in 6.06), now i've only got lp0 but my avrdude doesn't like it (it says: can't claim device)10:15
crimsuniter: upgrade paths are only tested for (most current stable)-110:15
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raphaHi all!10:15
iterok thanks10:15
subposeJok bronze so its like something running in the background! will that work or so i need to put ubuntu on my hdd, not from cd.10:15
Davieysticazzi, literally "sudo apt-get install planner"10:15
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raphaIs it possible to get Dapper-style keyboard layout back in Edgy_10:15
Kannixsticazzi: TaskJuggler? Gantt PRoject?10:15
ArneMhow do I get my parport0 back?10:15
notwistjckdck: maybe there is some problem with the driver for your wlan card.. im a noob too but i dont know10:15
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bronzesubposeJ: no, its interactive. use it like a terminal.10:15
jckdcknotwist - i think ure right ! --- ive no idea how to fix tho10:16
Ayabara_I need to mount an ext3 storage partition. can someone help me with the line I need in /etc/fstab?10:16
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judthere is also an alternative to planner  on java that is working on every platform but dont know the name anmore10:16
notwistjckdck: find out who made your wlan card and google for a linux driver :)10:16
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jckdckok10:16
firebird619variant: I have been here in the #ubuntu channel more times lately since installing Edgy. It won't start half the time, gets stuck at a blank screen just past GRUB, etc. From what I have learned from getting help here, it is graphics related, either software or hardware, but either way the problem isn't getting fixed so trying Dapper to see what happens.10:16
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boinkand find out which chip that card uses10:16
Seeker2599how do i open a port for bittorrent to use10:16
Ayabara_now I have "/dev/sda3   /mnt/storage  ext3    defaults        0       2", but I don't think that is what I want10:16
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variantfirebird619: :/10:17
variantfirebird619: dapper is cool10:17
jckdckive got 6.06 install - is it work updating to 6.10 ?10:17
freach`ArneM: modprobe parport10:17
firebird619variant: It will be cool if it works. :-)10:17
eXistenZHow can I set my internal IP manually in ubuntu?10:17
iterfirebird619: it's a driver problem, since changing to vesa fixed it, right ?10:17
jckdckdapper = ubuntu ?!10:17
ArneMok - I'll try10:17
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Davieyjckdck, dapper is the codename for a release.  As XP is of microsoft10:17
SensaeAnyone else here install the fglrx drivers?10:17
raphaPlease I need help with keyboard layout! I always have to press SPACE before " and ' and ~ appears!10:18
sticazziI've been installing loads of stuff lately -- all the packages downloaded, are they cleaned once the installation is successful or do they lie around, build mold and waste hdd space?10:18
POVaddcteXistenZ: what exactly do you mean by "internal ip"?10:18
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jckdckEdgy Eft > Dapper ? or =10:18
raphajckdck: mean me_10:18
firebird619iter: Vesa sort of fixed it. With Vesa, after I logged in, shortly thereafter it went to a screen that had ran fschk (which passed) and brought me right back to the login scree.10:18
eXistenZPOVaddct, I mean the IP assigned by the router.10:18
judi did10:18
mineraleexistenz: ifconfig -ethX 1.2.3.4   where x is 0 or 1 on 2 etc depending on your device10:18
notwistjckdck: edgy is the latest10:18
itersticazzi: apt-get clean10:18
eXistenZPOVaddct, I don't want it to be set by the DHCP server of the router10:18
Ayabara_can anyone help me with the mount options? pretty please with sugar on top :-)10:18
firebird619*screen10:18
judfglrx10:18
Davieysticazzi, they can waste space.  If you do sudo apt-get clean and sudo apt-get autoclean  it will clear them up10:18
sticazziiter, thanks10:18
SensaeAnyone know how to get fglrx working right?10:18
raphajckdck: new install of Edgy Eft, worked under Dapper10:19
judhas anyone lockup problem with fglrx10:19
Seeker2599how do i open a port for bittorrent to use10:19
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POVaddcteXistenZ: do you want to set it once or permanently without dhcp?10:19
brasseHello! Can anyone here tell me how I can make a program like splitmail send emails via a smtp server that I specify?10:19
raphajud: only when I try to switch to VC10:19
eXistenZPOVaddct, permanently10:19
POVaddcteXistenZ: edit the file /etc/network/interfaces10:19
judyes and reboot??10:19
iterfirebird619: have you tried to disable gdm10:19
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DavieySeeker2599, is your machine on a network or connected directly to DSL?10:19
POVaddcteXistenZ: there also might be a gui tool, but it will sure change the same file10:20
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firebird619iter: No, what would that do?10:20
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Seeker2599im behind a router but not connected to any other computers10:20
POVaddcteXistenZ: you have to know which interface is the one connected to the router (for example  eth0)10:20
iterfirebird619: gdm is what starts up and is crashing10:20
eXistenZPOVaddct, Got it! danke Frau POVaddct :)10:20
iterfirebird619: disabling it will leave you at a nice text login10:20
SensaeHas anyone installed fglrx on Edgy?10:20
iterfirebird619: then we can get xwindow sworking10:21
POVaddcteXistenZ: frau? ich tret dir gleich auf dein Z :)10:21
eXistenZPOVaddct, What is the Subnet mask?10:21
eXistenZPOVaddct, Gateway address is the router's address?10:21
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earthianerUSUL nope. dmraid was reconfigured but mkinitrd still returns me an error: cannot find lvm device on my swap partition :S10:22
POVaddcteXistenZ: you have to know the subnet mask. in most cases its 255.255.255.010:22
POVaddcteXistenZ: yes, Gateway address is the routers address10:22
SensaeHas anyone installed fglrx on Edgy?10:22
brasseor... perhaps it is possible to make sendmail send mail via my ISP's smtp server. Do anyone here know how to accomplish that?10:22
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earthianand the dpkg-reconfigure updates the new 2.6.17 kernel instead the one i compiled 2.6.1810:22
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Seeker2599Daviey: im connected directly10:22
firebird619iter: Ok. I would sure like to get Edgy working. I don't have it or anything installed right now, I wiped the drive clean. I can install Edgy again, would you want to help me out with getting it working?10:23
iterfirebird619: I can for a bit sure10:23
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Sensae-sigh-10:23
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firebird619iter: Ok, but this will take a little while to get Edgy installed first.10:24
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MasseRA while ago you were talking about a replacement for xmms and you mentioned beep mediaplayer. Does it support streams? (http://www.kawaii-radio.net)10:24
matttanyone have ubuntu 6.10 working on a mac mini?10:24
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mattti can't get audio to work10:24
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Sonic|LaptopWould someone please tell me what file the info that contains the processes that start up for a session are contained in.10:24
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iterSonic|Laptop: you want to see running processes do 'ps aux' in a terminal10:25
HoagieHi all. I'm back. >_> I have my CD drive set as a higher priority than my hard disk, and the disk works fine in windows to install firefox etc. It still hangs when trying to boot from the CD. Any ideas what might be the problem?10:26
iterHoagie: can you boot from other cds?10:26
firebird619iter: Is the Desktop CD good enough to install Edgy? Also, just a thought, I downloaded the iso's, is it possible I got a bad download thats causing trouble.10:26
mabanyone know how to disable shift + 2 and  needing to be pressed twice to display?10:26
Sonic|Laptopiter, no I added a program that seems to free my session once it starts, I need to remove it10:26
iterfirebird619: desktop cd is fine, and odds are media is ok too10:26
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zlackis there a way to change the size of terminals in gnome? (as in the size they open)10:26
zlackah found it10:27
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zlacksorry10:27
iterzlack: gnome-terminal --geometry=80x43 works for me10:27
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zlackiter: yeah i was too stupid to type man gnome-terminal10:27
iterhehe10:27
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Kim^JDoes Canoncial sell Ubuntu and Kubuntu cds as SuSE does?10:28
eXistenZPOVaddct, That's it! Done, thanks :)10:28
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POVaddcteXistenZ: cool10:28
iterSonic|Laptop: in ~/.Xsession ?10:28
Hoagieiter: I've tried two of the Ubuntu CDs... I think I have some Hoary CDs about somewhere, though. I'd be installing this version anyway, though.10:28
soundray!shipit | Kim^J10:28
ubotuKim^J: shipit is is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org  -  Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a Long Term Support release.10:28
EmxBAis there any ubuntu bugs channel?10:28
iterHoagie: and they all work except for the one you want ?10:28
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Kim^Jsoundray: I KNOW about Shipit. No, I want to BUY the friggin cds.10:29
iterEmxBA: are you looking for bugtraq ?10:29
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firebird619iter: Ok, I will get to installing and come back in a bit.10:29
Hoagieiter: Not had a chance to try the Hoary CDs yet. My computer takes about fourty years to restart, so I was hoping to find out if it was a common problem before enduring that again :P10:30
iterjust say my name and I'll notice10:30
zlackiter: is the geometry the number of chars that fit in the terminal ? as in, i want it to be 82 chars wide10:30
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max-_-hi guys. whats the command to start the ubuntu-menu with somesting like a launcher?10:30
soundrayKim^J: I'm sure Canonical will oblige if you set up a support contract10:30
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Kennyhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/T0F3IL43.html << could somebody please look at that?10:30
iterHoagie: I just want to know if you can boot from another bootable cd is all10:30
mabusHoly wow... why is my machine running so slow on a livecd?10:30
rc-1wow all dell tech support will tell me to do is reinstall drivers, and reboot a million times10:30
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mabusIt's got two 1.3ghz processors10:30
mabusand 2 gigs of ram10:30
iterzlack: I have to think that it is10:30
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zlackiter: thanks10:30
rc-1even though i know its not drivers, since multiple OSes all crash10:30
Hoagieiter: I've tried two Dapper CDs, neither works. Got them both in the same package.10:31
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SensaeAnyone? Edgy + fglrx?10:31
mabanyone know how to change from UK International Keyboard to UK keyboard?10:31
Link-The-Wind-Wahi, never tried Linux before. i want to, but I think all that about commando codes sounds difficualt, i just use Windows where you click on icons ... is it hard to learn the basic commandos?10:31
iterSensae: ubuntu-xgl10:31
azurealhi, what qt package do i need to be able to "make xconfig" ?10:31
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iterHoagie: how about a windows cd10:31
iterHoagie: or just some other boot cd10:31
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zlackiter: yes it is :)10:31
Sensaeiter: ty10:31
mabusLink-The-Wind-Wa: It will take some learning but ubuntu is the best way to go about it. And you can do most things without having to resort to the command line anyway10:31
Hoagieiter: I don't actually have any >_>10:31
azurealis it libqt4?  i jus tdont know10:31
soundrayLink-The-Wind-Wa: it's not hard, but it takes a while to unlock the full power of command line programs10:32
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KennyLink-The-Wind-Wa: You dont need to use the shell :P linux can start KDE/GNOME/XFCE or what DE you use by itself, so youre meet by a lovely screen :)10:32
Link-The-Wind-Waok, is there a noob-guide or a list of all the commandos?10:32
Hoagieiter: Didn't get any CDs with the computer, which is helpful...10:32
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soundray!cli | Link-The-Wind-Wa10:32
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ubotuLink-The-Wind-Wa: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands10:32
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Link-The-Wind-Wathanks10:32
iterHoagie: can you dl and burn a bootable iso to test ?10:32
iterHoagie: I think g4u iso is only 4mb10:33
Link-The-Wind-Wais it best to start with Dapper or Edgy Eft if you never tried Linux before?10:33
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tarelerulzNone of my Desktop eniverment take up my whole screen and the res don't seem to go pasted 640 by480  how do I change that10:33
IcemanV9Kim^J: fwiw, amazon.com does sell Ubuntu DVDs (i don't see CDs)10:33
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azurealor otherwise what is a really small program that can be used to configure my kernel?10:33
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KennyLink-The-Wind-Wa: I would try dapper, as it works completly out of the box10:33
freach`awyLink-The-Wind-Wa: Dapper10:33
Kennytheres still some problems with edgy...10:33
Link-The-Wind-Wasounds good, ok10:33
iterdamn this netinstall is taking AGES10:34
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soundray!fixres | tarelerulz10:34
ubotutarelerulz: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:34
JuJuBeeGot a problem.  I upgraded to edgy last night and now I can't execute system administration tasks (edit users and groups).  Kind of ironic huh?  Can't run the tool that will let me fix the problem.  Do I just log in as root?10:34
Kim^JIcemanV9: I onyl see 6.0610:34
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iterJuJuBee: can you open a terminal and do 'sudo -s'10:34
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mabusSo anybody have any idea why the livecd runs so slow on my machine? It's has 2 pentium 3 1.4ghz processors, and 2gb of ram. xorg is taking up 20% of my cpu power. Why? :/10:35
JuJuBeeOK, now I am root.10:35
iterJuJuBee: that'll give a root shell you can launch what you want from10:35
Hoagieiter: I'll give it a go with a few different CDs. Thanks a bunch for the help!10:35
Kim^JI just wanna be able to have a nice cd case or something of my Ubuntu cd...10:35
metellusanyone know how I can make the edgy install cd use my nvidia card instead of integrated graphics?10:35
azurealbecause it's a CD! that depends on cd speed =P10:35
soundrayJuJuBee: you may have to boot in recovery mode and fix your sudo access with visudo10:35
iterHoagie: np10:35
earthiansomeone say my name?10:35
kaflanhello, what i shoud to do, to get Language applet in KDE?10:35
JuJuBeeWhat is the name of the app for users and groups?10:35
IcemanV9Kim^J: me, too. 6.10 may be there soon. dunno when though.10:35
Kim^JLooks more professional with cd case than a home burnt cd.10:35
Sensae-siigh-10:35
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Kim^Jkaflan: #kubuntu10:36
Kannixmabus: Can you check with "top" what else is running?10:36
SensaeNot getting a response in gentoo-xgl, aanyone know how to set up fglrx?10:36
iterJuJuBee: users-admin10:36
freach`awymetellus: you have to modify the live cd10:36
martin_Is there a WinDirStat equivavelnt in Ubuntu?10:36
soundrayJuJuBee: users-admin10:36
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metellusfreach`awy: how would I do that?10:36
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JuJuBeedamn, I'm not allowed to access system configuration.  not even as root.10:37
freach`awymetellus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomization?highlight=%28livecd%2910:37
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metellusfreach`awy: thanks10:37
iterJuJuBee: have to boot in recovery mode then10:37
soundrayEnselic: what does that do?10:37
iterEnselic: gotta be a gui ?10:37
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itersoundray: windirstat is a graphical representation of your disk useage10:37
itersoundray: awesome FOSS program I use a lot10:38
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soundrayiter: gkrellm10:38
Enselicsoundray: It gives a very nice overview of the size of each dir and file10:38
JuJuBeeGot an error in terminal when I launched users-admin... (users-admin:12212): Liboobs-CRITICAL **: There was an unknown error communicating with the backends: The name org.freedesktop.SystemToolsBackends was not provided by any .service files10:38
soundray!gkrellm | Enselic10:38
ubotugkrellm: The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.9-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 733 kB, installed size 2060 kB10:38
Enseliciter: Nope, not necessary10:38
JuJuBeeWhat does it mean?10:38
bobbyyuHi, I have some trouble configuring my Ubuntu to work on my network with a Windows computer10:38
POVaddctJuJuBee: libboobs? :)10:38
iterEnselic: you can just do du -hs10:38
sith-lordhi10:38
bobbyyuI set the shares in Shared Folders10:38
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godmasterhello i have a problem, i want to install a theme but there is 3 files : icons, theme and wallpaper how to install this theme : http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=1354810:38
JuJuBeeDon't ask me?10:38
soundrayJuJuBee: boot to the grub menu and select the second option10:38
bobbyyuBut I am blocked from Wdinwos10:39
JuJuBeeK10:39
mabusKannix: I was using top to find out what was using so much cpu... firefox and synaptic each used about 30, but when I closed them, everything else still runs slow10:39
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tarelerulzThanks for the  link ubotu I will read what it has to say.10:39
JuJuBeeI'll be back, hopefully to say fixed...TTFN10:39
Enseliciter: that is not overviewal enough for a the whole directory tree imo :/10:39
bobbyyuIs there a utility to configure my Samba shares?10:39
Enselicsoundray: thanks, ill try it otu10:39
iterEnselic: right I figured as much10:39
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shinmenHey guys, I did an upgrade to edgy on server and now the vlan interfaces are named vlan52@eth0 instead of just vlan54.10:39
godmasterhow to install the mac osx theme?10:39
sith-lordgood10:39
shinmenAny ideas on what changed made that? Or what workarround can I use to change it?10:39
bobbyyu!samba10:40
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:40
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bobbyyuPlease?10:40
azurealnew/diff question: how would I compile my kernel by first changing the config file?10:40
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shinmenBecause /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/vlan is the one setting the set_set_name_type.10:40
iterazureal: make menuconfig?10:40
godmasterhello i have a problem, i want to install a theme but there is 3 files : icons, theme and wallpaper how to install this theme : http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=1354810:41
Kannixmabus: Hmm ... what is sucking up CPU now, according to top?10:41
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soundraybobbyyu: System-Administration-Shared folders10:41
dutchybobbyyu: i thought ubuntu had an app for it by default? somewhere in the admin menu10:41
dutchybobbyyu: yeah what soundray said10:41
SensaeYay! After a full system reboot the fglrx drivers seem to be working (They display in fglrxinfo) What would be the best way for me to double-check I have 3D acceleration?10:41
bobbyyuI did that10:41
iterSensae: glxinfo | grep direct10:41
io_pcgI'm new....don't be angry with my question...lol10:41
Enselicsoundray: Hmm, it was not quite what I thought off10:41
iterSensae: are you running xgl ?10:42
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iterSensae: if you are that first command will always report no10:42
Enselicsoundray: WinDirStat allows me to select a dir, then it scans the dir and collect informatino of the size of each dir/subdir/size10:42
bobbyyuI already configured my shares10:42
io_pcgI already install my g++ library but I don't know how to execute it!?10:42
soundrayEnselic: man du10:42
bobbyyuMy problem is that my Windows computer asks for a password10:42
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bobbyyuwhen I try to activate my Samba shares10:42
Enselicsoundray: du is not overviewal enough10:42
Sensaeiter: No xgl, not going to run it. I want 3D accel to run some games through Cedega, or atleast try. And it reports yes.10:42
azurealiter, actually where is that config file10:42
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iterSensae: then you are confirmed to have 3d running10:43
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SensaeAwesome.10:43
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soundrayEnselic: I often do something like "du -x | sort -n" to find what takes up space within a filesystem10:43
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SensaeNext I'm going to install Cedega, if I can get enough of the games I play running I'm probably going to completely switch over to linux.10:43
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iterazureal: you have to run that in the dir which contains the makefile for your new kernel10:43
bobbyyuDo you get my problem?10:43
iterazureal: usually /usr/src/linux10:43
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GyrosGeiersoundray/Enselic, for graphic output there is also xdu10:44
SensaeAtleast as soon as a linux distro supports my system. For some reason every distro I try locks up and won't even boot a liveCD10:44
azurealiter, i want to edit a text file, then have it compile, is that possible?10:44
TheFuzzballwhat is the version number of ubuntu after 6.10?10:44
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iterazureal: of course haha10:44
mabusKannix: nothing, it's not being used much10:44
Enselicsoundray: Ah that's better, thanks10:44
iterazureal: it's called a Makefile10:44
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azurealiter, no, makefile is not the one10:44
io_pcgI already install my g++ program with synaptic, but I don't know how to execute it, anyone could help me please?10:44
iterazureal: check /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17 (or whatever is appropriate)10:44
mabusKannix: except xorg taking up like 10-20% which is higher than normal, but still, it takes me like 30 seconds to get the run program dialog to come up10:44
Kannixmabus: then there must be another reason for sluggishness ...10:44
azurealiter, the file with all the CONFIG_blah=y   stuff10:45
azurealwhere is it10:45
soundrayTheFuzzball: probably 7.0410:45
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Seeker2599Daviey: are you still there and can you help me10:45
mabusKannix: yes10:45
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Kannixmabus: Do you have any applications running that you can shutdown?10:45
webmareni can't get sound to work in totem10:45
LjLio_pcg: i'm not sure you understood. you did what?10:45
soundrayTheFuzzball: assuming that it will be released in April 200710:45
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bobbyyuNobody got my problem?10:45
SensaeAnyone know where the vnc4server conf file is? I don't remember.10:45
Kannixmabus: Kill one non-essential process after the other, till you find what's wrong.10:45
TheFuzzballsoundray, yea it will10:45
godmasterhow to install a theme please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!10:45
iterazureal: it's usually called .config10:45
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zlackgodmaster: in what window manager?10:45
jzzatdoes anyone know where i can ge the pen drivers for the Fujitsu stylistic10:45
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iterazureal: in same dir as kernel src10:46
azurealiter, ah! nice, hidden rofl10:46
Kannixmabus: What is your kernel by the way? Is it SMP capable?10:46
TheFuzzballsoundray, it's called Feisty Fawn I just didn't know the version number :)10:46
azurealiter, so after backing up .config and editing it, you're saying make menuconfig will read it?10:46
soundrayTheFuzzball: don't be too certain. "6.04" was postponed to June in February10:46
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iterazureal: no use make oldconfig for that10:46
ubuntu__Hi folks, I'm trying to setup Ubuntu to use a network printer being shared by WindowsXP, the printer is a lexmark p6350... can anyone help me find the correct driver? It is not in the default list of lexmark drivers10:46
iterazureal: menuconfig is ncurses to creat a new config10:46
godmasterin gnome10:46
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Seeker2599how can i open a port fr bittorrent to use? my machine is directly connected to my modem, not on a network10:47
bobbyyuI used Shared Folders" but it doesnt work!10:47
RobNycMasseR, how is it going dude10:47
Seeker2599for*10:47
zlackgodmaster: System -> Prefeences -> Theme10:47
io_pcgLjL I installed the programe c++ and I don't know how to execute it...10:47
TheFuzzballsoundray, ""Ubuntu 7.04, scheduled for release on 19 April 200710:47
godmasteri want to install this theme bit i dt know how, its mac osx theme http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=1354810:47
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TheFuzzballsoundray, anyway, thanks :)10:47
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azurealiter, ok, so I backup .config, edit it, then pretend like i'm reverting to an old config?  crafty =P10:47
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godmasterzlack i try in theme but it dt runs10:47
sc0tthey folks10:47
zlackgodmaster: dt runs ?10:47
webmareni can't get sound to work in totem10:47
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godmasterthere is 3 files10:48
godmasterdesktop, theme and icons ?10:48
iterazureal: yep10:48
iterbrb toilet10:48
zlackgodmaster: just drag the tgz or tar.gz into the theme window10:48
azurealiter, ok sweet thx10:48
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io_pcgI'm new...it's stupid question...but I don't know how to do it :S10:48
godmasterthere is 3 tgz10:48
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noxxlehow can i check the size of my swap file10:48
zlackso theme is the general theme file, icons is for the icons10:48
Paddy_EIREis there anyone who could help me sort out my ati graphics card10:49
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bobbyyu!samba10:49
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:49
zlacknoxxle: df -h10:49
jattbobbyyu: you have a linux share and you want to access it from a windows machine?10:49
bobbyyuThat right10:49
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azurealoh, btw, would it be bad to edit my current kernel in this manner (edit .config, then make oldconfig)10:49
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azureal?10:49
jattbobbyyu: and you don't know which password to write when in windows you are asked for it.10:49
alecjwPaddy_EIRE: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in the terminal. if that soesn't work, i can't help10:50
bobbyyuRight again10:50
jattbobbyyu: I had a similar problem, I assigned a password to my user on my linux box with the10:50
jattsmbpasswd10:50
jattcommand.10:50
noxxledf - h doesnt work10:50
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Paddy_EIREalecjw: will that help me enable direct rendering???10:50
io_pcgLjL: did you understand the question?10:50
zlacknoxxle, without the space, df -h10:50
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alecjwah10:50
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alecjwi thought you menat to actaully just drive it, Paddy_EIRE10:50
Seeker2599 how can i open a port for bittorrent to use? my machine is directly connected to my modem, not on a network10:50
Paddy_EIREoh no10:51
soundrayubuntu__: it's unlikely that this printer will work with Linux. Best to print to PDF and print those from Windows. There is a shareware print server that does that for you10:51
JuJuBeeOk I rebooted into recovery mode and used visudo to edit the sudoers.  Not sure what I should have entered?  I duplicated the root entry and changed root to my username.  I restarted and still cannot use the users and groups manager...10:51
bobbyyuCan you show me how to do it, jatt?10:51
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jattbobbyyu: sure, which is the username where your linux share resides?10:51
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noxxlei know ther eis no space "df -h" doesnt work10:51
noxxledoesnt show swapfile10:51
alecjwPaddy_EIRE: ati GPU's aren't very well supported in linux, you probably won't be able to get it to do much10:51
steveireDoes gnome have an equivalent to kdes kparts?10:51
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bobbyyuAs far as I know, I use bobbyyu all the time10:51
noxxlei need to know the size of my swap file!!10:52
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Paddy_EIREalecjw: on a previous install i was able to play enemy territory and other games now I cant10:52
alecjwoh....10:52
|rt|noxxle: no such thing as a swap file in linux...there is a swap partition10:52
savvashello, does anyone know how to limit network connections? i'm currently interested in ircd10:52
jattbobbyyu: well logged in as bobbyyu you just do10:52
jattsmbpasswd10:52
jattand it should ask you for a new password, if you haven't assigned one.10:52
noxxlethats what i meant10:52
POVaddctnoxxle: linux doesnt use swapfiles (at least in the standard config)10:52
noxxlejeeez10:52
JuJuBeeCan anyone help me with users-admin?10:52
iterazureal: should be fine, but why not use menuconfig if you're going to do that anyway10:52
noxxlewhat is the size of my swap partition? how can i check10:52
alecjwi don't know much about ATI, sorry Paddy_EIRE, i have an nvidia10:52
zlacknoxxle: no need to shout, lets see10:52
tarelerulzI used ntfs-3g and samba to share my fat32 hard and my ntfs windows partition over my home network.10:52
fegnoxxle, cat /proc/swaps10:53
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|rt|noxxle: try typing free10:53
Paddy_EIREalecjw: sounds like I need one of them10:53
noxxleok thank you10:53
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zlacknoxxle: and be patient - we are all here on a volunteerly basis10:53
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bobbyyuCould not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE10:53
bobbyyuFailed to change password for bobbyyu10:53
azurealiter, oh, i'm just following someone's options (which are in a text file)10:53
|rt|noxxle: that will tell you how much physical and virtual memory your system has and how much it's using10:53
bobbyyuThat what it says10:53
azurealiter, make oldconfig...and now  'sudo make' or what?10:53
noxxlei was also wondering if its possible to defrag an external usb harddrive that has formated to fat32 from ubuntu?10:53
bobbyyuShould I type sudo?10:53
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jattbobbyyu: what does10:54
jattps -ef | grep smb10:54
jattsay?10:54
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jattbobbyyu: (don't paste the output here)10:54
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mabusKannix: whatever kernel the xubuntu desktop install cd runs on10:54
soundraynoxxle: the best way to defrag is to back up, format and restore.10:54
MoeeHello :] 10:54
MoeeFier nouveau user d'Ubuntu :] 10:54
azurealooh iirc make modules, then make modules_install10:54
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noxxlesoundray are u joking?10:55
Kannixmabus: should be fine.10:55
rednelbWhoo hoo! Gonna try running UBUNTU embedded!   http://www.vmware.com/products/player/    http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/ubuntu.html  Thx for the suggestions, all that helped me.10:55
Seeker2599 how can i open a port for bittorrent to use? my machine is directly connected to my modem, not on a network10:55
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mabusKannix: Yeah I know that, I've run xubuntu/ubuntu on tons of machines, tons of times. The reason I'm here is because it is *not* working like it should. :)10:55
iterhaha M$ is having a tech fair this afternoon here10:55
itergonna go try to win a xbox36010:55
bobbyyuIt not working10:55
phillipanyone have a ZVM working in linux?10:55
iterwhoops10:55
ubuntuOkay, so if I want to use a PDF printer instead, and just copy the files to the Windows machine for printing, how do I access the Windows smb share? Right now I can see it but not open it10:55
rednelbiter: they have onenote on display too?10:56
iterwrong channel10:56
bobbyyuDarnit10:56
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iterprobably yea10:56
noxxleso i cannot defrag an external fat32 partition? how am i supposed to backup 150 gigs on this drive then format it? thats not practical10:56
ubuntuDo I have to install samba? or smbfs?10:56
soundraynoxxle: no10:56
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bobbyyuStill locked out of my Windows system10:56
ianmacgregornoxxle: Can't you defrag it from Windows?10:56
soundraynoxxle: if you haven't got a way to backup your 150GB, you're not following best practice, anyway. Get a backup drive.10:57
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frederick85i like bunting the buntu10:57
Kannixmabus: I meant "ok" in context of my question for SMP.10:57
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jattbobbyyu: strange, I haven't found such error before. What I did (yesterday) with edgy was to share my folder through nautilus. At that point, nautilus downloaded some additional packages for samba. Then I had a lot of trouble trying to find which damn :) password I need to type in my windows machine. With smbpasswd I could solve that problem.10:57
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Kannixmabus: I have no idea, why your system is "slow", if top shows no real CPU usage besides the xorg at 20%.10:57
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soundraynoxxle: especially if you're entrusting your data to a flaky filesystem like fat3210:58
mabusKannix: is there a way I can see if it's seeing *both* processors?10:58
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mabusAlthough even at just one 1.4ghz processor it should run better than this10:59
Seeker2599will some one please stop ignoring me, ive asked my question 4 times and no one has payed attention10:59
POVaddctmabus: cat /proc/cpuinfo10:59
mabusPOVaddct: thanks10:59
dabaR!repeat10:59
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience10:59
noxxlelol i dont have a windows parition10:59
lmosherMy sound is no longer working in Ubuntu. I am not certain why, volume is all the way up.10:59
noxxlepure linux10:59
noxxlebut need external usb just in case10:59
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noxxlefor friends with windows10:59
JuJuBeeCan someone please help me with users-admin problem?10:59
JuJuBeeI cannot run it.10:59
dabaRwhy11:00
mabusPOVaddct: it shows the info on one, but how do I know if it's seeing two11:00
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soundraynoxxle: then backup, format *to ext3*, restore, and never worry about defragging again.11:00
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noxxlecant i just convert it to ext3?11:00
soundraynoxxle: no11:00
noxxlei converted ntfs to fat32 on this drive11:00
jattlmosher: after a breezy->edgy upgrade?11:00
POVaddctmabus: then it is only seeing one. you probably have a uniprocessor kernel.11:00
noxxlewell why not?11:00
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noxxleparition magic can do that stuff11:00
JuJuBeedabaR : you say why to my users-admin ? ?11:01
lmosherjatt, no I haven't switched to edgy yet11:01
dabaRJuJuBee: yes, why can you not open it?11:01
JuJuBeeI get an error.11:01
dabaRwhat is it11:01
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philliptesting testing can anyone read this?11:01
jattlmosher: did you tried alsamixer? and to restart the sound settings with11:01
jatt/etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart11:01
jatt?11:01
soundraynoxxle: feel free to try with Partition Magic. Most likely, it's going to mess things up. Backup, format... I've said it before.11:01
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Seeker2599phillip: yes i can11:02
mabus!edgy11:02
phillipok thanks11:02
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)11:02
eXistenZWhat's the best media for backups?11:02
noxxleis there a linux program i can use11:02
bobbyyuCan I install and run kcontrol from Ubuntu?11:02
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JuJuBeedabaR : An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module You have an old third party module lying around11:02
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JDahlhas someone here found a workable patch for openafs with the default Edgy kernel?11:02
mabusWhen is edgy officially released? Or has it been already?11:02
JuJuBeeIt doesn't tell me which one...11:03
mabustopic.. right11:03
coz_mabus, already released11:03
ianmacgregormabus: Already released11:03
lmosher* Shutting down ALSA...  * warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1190: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing'...[fail] 11:03
noxxleanyone know of a linux program for converting paritions??11:03
mabusI thought they were released every 6 months?11:03
jattlmosher: hmmm that doesn't look good11:03
azurealiter, i'm still not sure what to do after "make oldconfig"11:03
lmosherjatt, nm, I didn't use sudo11:03
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mabusnoxxle: download gparted, and boot of of it. You can't create partitions on disks you are using, so you can't easily do it while running another OS11:03
jattlmosher: and with sudo?11:03
eXSiRlmosher: use with sudo11:03
JuJuBeedabaR : this is under KDE, under Gnome, It just told me I am not allowed to, not even as root11:03
azurealiter, googling returns different methods of compiling =/11:03
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ubuntuDo I have to install Samba before I can access Windows shares? I can see the share but not open it11:03
coz_mabus, well whenever they are released, I don't know ,, but edgy is aledy out there11:03
Seeker2599does anyone know how to route a port?11:03
lmosherok I restarted, still no sound11:04
firebird619iter: I have installed Edgy now. When it finished, I clicked restart now instead of Continue with live CD. It opened the CD drive so I could remove the CD, but it is just sitting there.11:04
lmosheralsamixer has all settings on full11:04
iterazureal: check README in /usr/src/linux-whatever11:04
diconanyone has tried cedega on Edgy?11:04
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iterazureal: has all the cmds in it11:04
jzzatHey, I'm soon to revieve a Fujitsu stylistic and found the fpit drivers, but its vague on what start up script to add the pen detection code in any help/11:04
noxxlemabus i want to convert an external usb11:04
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ianmacgregornoxxle: ntfs and fat{16,32} are Windows file systems (and not very good ones). I doubt you will find a Linux app to convert a crap fs to ext3 and do the job well.11:04
soundrayeXistenZ: that's hard to answer just like that. It depends on how much money you're willing to spend, how long you're going to store the data for, how quickly you need access, how often you are going to backup....11:04
iterfirebird619: restart with ctrl-alt-del11:04
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firebird619I pressed Ctrl+Alt+F1 and it the last line on the screen says rebooted from gdm menu.11:04
diconanyone has tried cedega on Edgy??11:04
noxxlelololol11:04
noxxlecedega works great11:04
mabusnoxxle: oh, then fdisk11:04
firebird619iter: Ok, will do that now.11:04
noxxlefdisk? i dont have a windows partition11:04
mabusok...11:05
lmoshernoxxle, So?11:05
noxxledoes fdisk have a gui11:05
eXistenZsoundray, home usage11:05
soundrayeXistenZ: for most home/office/light use, hard disks are currently the best option.11:05
mabusnoxxle: not that I know of11:05
diconnoxxle, did u test it on edgy?11:05
jattlmosher: how are you testing your sound? With which application? Could you try to play a .wav file with aplay, and adjust the volumn with alsamixer only?11:05
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mabusit's a pretty simple program, you shoudln't need one11:05
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coz_jzzat, fujitsu,, wel first you have to find out if it suport the wacom tablet drive,, well then again it may not have to,,, xorg comes with the wqcom driver already installed for pentablet it just needs to be configured11:05
eXistenZsoundray, Thanks!11:05
noxxlefdisk for converting fat to ext3? i dont want to format and lose data11:05
lmosherjatt, I was using xmms, it shows that it's playing (from the mixer)11:05
lmoshernoxxle, Why don't you copy the data first?11:05
coz_jzzat, that is actually the wacom driver11:05
azurealiter, they're headers, with no readme11:05
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noxxlei have used cedega on edgy11:05
mabusnoxxle: you will lose data if you're changing filesystems... back up the data11:05
noxxlemabus i didnt loose the data when i converted from ntfs to ext311:05
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diconnoxxle, which version of cedega?11:06
JuJuBeedabaR : Any suggestions?11:06
noxxlei mean from ntfs to fat11:06
noxxledicon the newest11:06
dabaRno11:06
mabusnoxxle: well I'm suprised, and I don't know how that works. Must be a windows thing.11:06
noxxlewhy wouldnt cedega work?11:06
mabusBut back up your data.11:06
soundrayeXistenZ: best to have two in USB external cases, and store one of them at work or at a friend's place.11:06
coz_jzzat, it will be interesting to see how this works ona pen tablet... i prefer pen talbets to most other types of portables11:06
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lmoshermabus, Yeah there's a windows utility that converts it.11:06
PlanarPlatypusHi, I am trying to set up dspam as a content filter on postfix, I have it relaying the mail properly and dspam definately sees the mais as it adds the sig to the bottom of the mails.  However dspam_stats gives me no training data.  Does anyone have any idea what I am missing?11:06
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lmoshernoxxle, why can't you just copy your data from the drive?11:06
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noxxleno its too much11:06
diconnoxxle, whats the newest please?11:06
jattlmosher: you could also test to play an mp3 file with the mpg123 command line utility (just to be sure xmms is not failing in some way).11:07
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noxxle5.2.6 and 5.2.711:07
noxxlei was playing anarchy online11:07
mabusnoxxle: ntfs is not reallly that workable with linux, I am quite sure that you cannot format a ntfs partition back to fat without losing your data, and if there is such a utility, it is definately not on linux11:07
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firebird619iter: It is just sitting there, It rebooted and went through GRUB, but after that just sits at a blank screen.11:07
iterazureal: just do make && make modules_install && make install11:07
diconnoxxle, hum.. where could i download them?11:07
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noxxlemabus its called parition magic for windows. and yes i converted ntfs to fat and lost NO data11:08
iterfirebird619: ok we've been here before, let's stop gdm from starting11:08
CadteachHi all11:08
noxxledicon what? its not free11:08
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iterfirebird619: go back to grub menu by rebooting and boot recovery mode11:08
mabusnoxxle: partition magic is not "for windows".. it's its own bootable system in it's own right...11:08
firebird619iter: Ok11:08
ubuntuWhen I try to open a SMB share, ubuntu refuses because it says the filename indicates it is of type desktop icon, but it's really of type smb share, so it's a security risk. It won't open the share. What do I do?11:08
diconnoxxle, hm.. how did u get it? o.o11:08
coralhow can i repeat a slideshow automaticly in Open Office?11:08
noxxlemabus partition magic is the name of a program11:08
azurealiter, ok, thx, hopefully i can get my sound back =P11:08
noxxlemabus google it plz11:08
JuJuBeeCan anybody tell me how to correct my problem with users-admin?11:09
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noxxlewww.powerquest.com/partitionmagic/11:09
noxxlethat right there11:09
noxxledicon google cedega11:09
noxxleyou buy it11:09
mabusnoxxle: I'm familiar with partition magic. No need to be rude.11:09
noxxlemabus well why dont you believe me11:09
ianmacgregorJuJuBee: What is the error you get when you try to run user-admin?11:09
mabusnoxxle: believe you about what?11:09
itermabus: well you're splitting hairs11:09
JuJuBeeTells me I am not allowed to11:09
iterpartition magic is definitely a windows program11:09
firebird619iter: Ok, its booted to recovery mode.11:09
ianmacgregorJuJuBee: Try: gksu users-admin11:10
JuJuBeeOnly since the upgrade to edgy last night.11:10
soundraynoxxle, mabus, iter: please ask yourselves whether your discussion is still on topic.11:10
JuJuBeeI will try...11:10
mabusI have a bootable partition magic cd right next to me...11:10
iterfirebird619: ok now issue update-rc.d -f gdm remove11:10
mabusI can run it, and I don't have windows on my box.11:10
firebird619iter: Ok, did that.11:10
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mabusUnless the "for windows" thing is an actual .exe that is separate from the bootable cd and that I have never heard of it.11:10
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iterfirebird619: ok no errors right? reboot with 'reboot'11:10
diconnoxxle, thanks man :D11:11
JuJuBeeianmacgregor : "You are not allowed to access the system configuration."11:11
mabusWhich would be thoroughly confusing and they really should have called it something else, but anyway...11:11
firebird619iter: no errors.11:11
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CadteachI have a question about programs auto-starting, specifically GAIM. Any idea how to stop it?11:11
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POVaddctmabus: yes, there is a separate thing. it can generate a bootable floppy and cd though.11:11
soundrayJuJuBee: have you created more than one user on your box?11:11
mabusnoxxle: In that case, get the bootable partition magic cd, if partition magic can do it. And then it doesn't matter if you have windows.11:11
ianmacgregorJuJuBee: and you ran that with 'gksu users-admin'? Did it ask you for a password?11:11
JuJuBeeNo.  Just my onw and root11:11
JuJuBees/onw/own11:12
JuJuBeeianmacgregor : no password...11:12
JuJuBeesomething broken...11:12
JuJuBeeme thinks11:12
ianmacgregorJuJuBee: I think something's broken too11:12
mabusnoxxle: so are you saying that you have used partition magic to transform a ntfs partition into fat and not lost data, and vice versa? Or only one way?11:13
ianmacgregornoxxle, mabus Can we take the parition magik discussion to another channel please?11:13
Davieynoxxle, why use partition magic and not Gparted?11:13
noxxlelolol11:13
firebird619iter: just sitting at a blank screen.11:13
JuJuBeeWhen I try to run from system setting (KDE) it spits something about the last time i upgraded KDE there were orphaned modules... Try removing them, but it doesnt tell me which ones...11:13
soundrayJuJuBee: boot in recovery mode again, and create a new user with admin rights: 'adduser newadmin' ; 'adduser newadmin admin'. Then reboot, login as that user and try admin tasks.11:13
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xenakis!cups11:14
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows11:14
ianmacgregorJuJuBee: I think you need to be in #kubuntu11:14
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firebird619iter: I pressed spacebar and now I have where I can login.11:14
JuJuBeesoundray : ok, thanks I will try.11:14
JuJuBeeThanks for the try inmacgregor...11:14
iterfirebird619: good good11:14
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iterfirebird619: so now edgy is installed11:15
JuJuBeeI'll return...11:15
firebird619iter: Yes.11:15
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iterfirebird619: let's get your video card working11:15
iterwhat's the model again ? 400g ?11:15
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firebird619iter: My card is built-in Intel. i81011:15
alecjwis it possible to transver .m4v videos to my ipod using gtkpod?  when i try to import a .m4v, it says that i need to recompile it with an extention - this didn't happen with the previous version.11:16
iteroh right that was someone else11:16
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NET||abusehehehehe11:16
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iterfirebird619: ok tell me what you get from 'grep command /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom'11:18
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dabaRAnderz: did you try?11:18
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Davieyephesius, is the file set to executable and are you in the same folder?11:19
jacekclear11:19
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Anderzyeah, but it won't print out11:19
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e_machinistHi, I'm trying to compile GnomeSword 2.1.7 in dapper from source. I type ./config, and it reaches "Checking for GNOME...", and then just stops and returns me to the command line.11:19
frederick854dmire my fub4r haxx0r Skillz11:19
e_machinistDoes anyone know why it is doing this?11:19
firebird619#gdmflexiserver --command="UPDATE_CONFIG <confguration key>"11:19
Skygge_hey, does anyone know if apt etc keeps a log of package history?11:19
dabaRAnderz: then its not enough11:19
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SixerHi, howcome /dev/fb0 is unrecognized in the default installtion of Edgy ?11:20
iterfirebird619: ok that didn't help :) let's do 'apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel'11:20
LjLSkygge_: dpkg does. /var/log/dpkg.log11:20
JDahlis there a point in filing a bug for openafs-client,  if the problem is already known by openafs developers?11:20
firebird619Before that is: # command to get the GDM daemon to notice the change. Any running GDM GUI.11:20
Sixeri945 chipset running the i810 driver11:20
soundraye_machinist: are you sure that this isn't what it's meant to do?11:20
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Skygge_thanks Ljl11:20
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iterSixer: AIGLX perhaps?11:20
iterdunno really11:21
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Sixeriter: What's that mean?11:21
soundraye_machinist: btw, any particular reason you want to compile it, rather than installing an ubuntu package?11:21
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firebird619iter: the pc I have Edgy on is not connected to Internet right now. Does that command need the Internet or can that be installed from the Edgy CD.11:21
e_machinistsoundray, yah, the Readme claims that the configure should take a while, and create a huge list of options checks and what not. But it doesn't for me, just returns me to the command line.11:21
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iterfirebird619: should work from cd11:21
JuJuBeesoundray: I'm back and sorry to say that I still cannot run users-admin, even using the newly created user.11:21
firebird619ok, will enter that command. standby.11:21
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e_machinistsoundray: The newest version of GnomeSword is 2.1.7, in the repositories I can only find 2.1.5. On the other hand, I know that 2.1.7 is in the edgy repositories?11:22
soundraye_machinist: won't 'sudo apt-get install gnomesword' do for you?11:22
e_machinistIs there a backports that I may not have enabled or something?11:22
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soundraye_machinist: are you on edgy?11:22
JuJuBeeI can run other system admin tasks.  THink its a problem with users-admin.11:22
e_machinistI'm on 6.06, the LTS release.11:22
soundrayJuJuBee: same error message?11:22
JuJuBeeYes11:22
fabio_sorry what version of gnome there is in edgy?11:22
bdragonmsl2.1611:22
firebird619iter: :-( says couldn' tfind package xserver-xorg-video-intel.11:23
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firebird619* couldn't find11:23
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iterfirebird619: rats must need internet then11:23
iterfirebird619: let's try this11:23
iterfirebird619: apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i81011:23
alecjwis it possible to transver .m4v videos to my ipod using gtkpod?  when i try to import a .m4v, it says that i need to recompile it with an extention - this didn't happen with the previous version.11:23
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soundrayJuJuBee: try a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install gnome-system-tools'11:24
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u4ahi all11:24
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e_machinistsoundray: Dapper here, not edgy.11:24
firebird619iter: says xserver-xorg-video-i810 is already the newest version.11:24
u4aare there anythink like emerge --depclean in apt-get?11:24
firebird619iter: it didn't install anything.11:24
soundraye_machinist: have you compiled other stuff successfully?11:24
iterfirebird619: ok run 'startx'11:25
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JuJuBeesoundray : ok...11:25
LjLu4a: perhaps if i knew what that did...11:25
soundrayJuJuBee: then try again11:25
firebird619iter: Ok, it did that.11:25
e_machinistsoundray: yes. And when I can't, there is usually something missing, etc. This one just... stops and returns me to the command line. So, I'm not exactly sure what I'm missing.11:25
JuJuBeeOk, thanks11:25
e_machinistsoundray: Just says "Checking for GNOME..." and then returns to the command line11:26
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SensaeAnyone familiar with legacydoom?11:26
Fastlywhat release will come next after Edgy Eft?11:26
JuJuBeesoundray : same error...11:26
Fastlyis there a mission statement anywhere?11:26
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u4aLjL: Determines all packages installed on the system that have no explicit reason for being there. and promp to delete...11:26
iterfirebird619: ok, did you see x start or did it crash11:26
alecjwfastly: edgy+1 =Feisty Fawn11:26
soundraye_machinist: not sure if this will help, but it might be useful to 'sudo apt-get build-dep gnomesword'11:26
LjLu4a: "sudo apt-get autoremove"11:26
soundrayJuJuBee: sorry, out of ideas11:27
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e_machinistsoundray: ah, yah, didn't think of that. Let me give it a go.11:27
coz_jzzat, did  you get that?11:27
LjLu4a: works in edgy. doesn't work in dapper.11:27
Fastlythanks alecjw11:27
JuJuBeeThanks anyway...11:27
firebird619iter: It started. I am at the Ubuntu Desktop now.11:27
alecjwis it possible to transver .m4v videos to my ipod using gtkpod?  when i try to import a .m4v, it says that i need to recompile it with an extention - this didn't happen with the previous version.11:27
iterfirebird619: woohoo11:27
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firebird619:)11:28
iterfirebird619: so for now you can login and do startx at least11:28
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ronin2hey all - I use PDFCreator in WinXP a ton - is there a comparable PDF printer I can install Ubuntu? If so, link to directions?11:28
iterfirebird619: but the problem is with gdm still11:28
soundrayJuJuBee: as a workaround, use the command line tools. man adduser, scroll down to "SEE ALSO"11:28
cyziewhat is the command to convert a ps to png?11:28
itergtg bbiab11:28
LjLronin2: what does that thing do exactly?11:28
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firebird619iter: yes, for now. But what can be done to fix the gdm problem.11:28
cntbronin2: ubuntu has pdf printer in default install11:28
soundraycyzie: pstoimg11:28
LjLcyzie: try pstopnm piped to pnmtopng11:28
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alecjwronin2: what programs will you want to make PDF's from? OpenOffice.org suite porgrams have a built in "export as PDF feture"11:29
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ronin2LjL: it installs a printer.  any time I print to that printer, it makes what I'm printing into a PDF document.11:29
soundraycyzie: LjL's tip is better11:29
ronin2alecjw: from Firefox11:29
LjLronin2: that's built into my KDE. i suppose Gnome would have something similar.11:29
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cntbany ideas how ready UBUNTU is for core2 QUAD ?11:29
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alecjwis it possible to transver .m4v videos to my ipod using gtkpod?  when i try to import a .m4v, it says that i need to recompile it with an extention - this didn't happen with the previous version.11:30
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cntb!core211:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about core2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:30
cyziesoundray, pstoimg ?? ljl ?11:30
soundraycntb: fully ready. Don't fish with the bot11:30
iterfirebird619: hit me up later and we'll fix it11:30
cyzieok ok ljl tips :D11:30
itergotta run to this m$ thing11:30
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u4aLjL: thanks ;(11:30
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cntbwont fish with the bot11:30
u4a:)11:30
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namedamn11:30
firebird619iter: ok, Thanks for the help.11:30
cntbsoundray:11:30
cyzieLjL, what packages are them ?11:30
namematplotlib is not being installed correctly11:30
nameImportError: No module named linalg11:30
LjLu4a: if you're using dapper, you could use aptitude to obtain a similar result - but you need to use it when installing, as well11:31
nameand i can't find that11:31
LjLcyzie: netpbm11:31
soundray!netpbm | cyzie11:31
ubotunetpbm: Graphics conversion tools. In component main, is optional. Version 2:10.0-10.1 (edgy), package size 1129 kB, installed size 4028 kB11:31
LjL!find matplot | name11:31
cntband what is your source soundray anyway ?11:31
ubotuFound: python-matplotlib, python-matplotlib-data, python-matplotlib-doc11:31
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cyziek thanks LjL soundray11:31
ronin2ok I can print to file and that makes a ps document for me... how convert ps to pdf?11:32
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LjLronin2: are you sure you can't print to PDF directly?11:32
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sticazziwhy don't you just print to pdf?11:32
cntbno ronin2 no ps ! print directly to PDF11:32
ronin2can't figure out how....11:32
sticazzihttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/11:32
ronin2in Firefox?11:32
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LjLfirefox? let me see11:33
ronin2sticazzi: awesome.  thank you.11:33
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sticazziyou need to install the PDF print driver and hey presto, your home folder gets filled up with PDF's in the "PDF" directory11:33
drbashir_!ati11:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:33
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soundraycntb: Ubuntu runs on Core 2 Duo && Ubuntu runs on 4-CPU machines. There is no principal difference in the Core 2 Quad architecture that would present an obstacle. No sources, but I'd bet my socks on it.11:34
cyzieLjL, can you give example of the command line please? i have install netpbm installed11:34
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sticazziis it worthwile installing binary drivers for ATI? x.org supplied seem to get the job done..11:34
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soundraysticazzi: stick with xorg if you're happy. Only if you need fancy 3D stuff, Xgl etc. will you need fglrx11:36
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sticazzidoom 3 runs fine11:36
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lee78hi I'm new to linux and I installed vpnclient on ubuntu11:37
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Karark_Having troubles with ubuntuforum:  I log in but am automatically logged out when browsing or the page refreshes... I have deleted all cookies... what else can I try?11:38
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whoppixhey all :) i have a little problem, regarding dapper drake.. i want to run PerlEdit, but i get the error :" error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" i cant find any corresponding versions of libstdc++ in my packet sources, so anyone any suggestion how to fix this? thx for help in advance :)11:38
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Paddy_EIREI downloaded firefox 2 and wish to use that from now on im using dapper...will java support and flash still install properly if the firefox directory is extracted to /home/myname/packages/firefox/11:38
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Commander-CroweHi I just installed 6.10 and I'm getting no soud11:38
lee78vpnclient connects and once I disconnect i cannot connect again11:38
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Commander-Crowesound*11:38
SensaeI'm trying to run Legacy Doom and I'm getting GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference. What is that?11:39
Commander-Crowelast version I had sound11:39
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JDahlis there an easy to way download a Debian unstable package?  They ship a very new and patched openafs-client, which supposedly builds fine with recent kernels11:39
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lee78my ethernet card won't respond as well after running vpnclient11:39
JDahlI mean, the source package of course11:39
LjLcyzie: "pdftopnm filename.pdf | pnmtopng >filename.png"11:40
LjLcyzie: not tried11:40
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cyzieLJL, source file is ps and i want it to be png :) why is it pdf ?11:41
sethkJDahl, you can download it the same way you can download any file.  right click in the browser, for example11:41
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LjLcyzie: sorry, made confusion. just s/pdf/ps/ everywhere in that example11:41
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cyzieokie, thaks11:41
hysjHello, I could need some help in changeing the locals from utf-8 (if anyone can understand what i mean, not good at this :P)11:42
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JDahlsethk, it has too many dependencies for that - I was hoping to use apt-get source on Debian's repositories without wrecking my Ubuntu installation11:42
Karark_Having troubles with ubuntuforum:  I log in but am automatically logged out when browsing or the page refreshes... I have deleted all cookies... what else can I try?11:42
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cyziepstopnm: Writing ppmraw file11:43
cyziepnmtopng: EOF / read error reading magic number11:43
sethkJDahl, you said you wanted to download it.  sounds like you really want to install it, not download it11:43
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cyzieLJL seem like error :-s11:43
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cyziepstopnm looks fine, the part screw up is pnmtopng :-s11:43
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sethkJDahl, dpkg can do that for you11:43
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JDahlsethk, to be more specific, I want to build an Ubuntu package from the Debian unstable source package11:44
soundraycyzie: it's not as easy as LjL suggests. You'll have to have a look at the manpages, at least man pnmtopng11:44
sticazziI'm testing out the remote desktop feature connecting using the tightvnc viewer from windows over LAN, and it's slow as hell..11:44
JDahlsethk, it can? thanks... I will check that out11:44
sticazziis this normal?11:44
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hysj*got problems chaning lanuage in ubuntu :P11:44
cyzieman does nto give any example :-s soundray11:44
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sethksticazzi, yes, VNC is a real dog11:44
LjLsoundray: uh... actually i was going to suggest the problem would probably be with pstopnm. like not having gs installed, or pstopnm not behaving like a normal netpbm command since a ps can have many pages, or something...11:44
|rt|sticazzi: depends on the network....you may have better luck with rdesktop11:45
Commander-Crowe!sound11:45
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin11:45
billytwowillywhat was the name of that horror movie where it was some house that a mill owner that used child labour used to own?11:45
sticazzi|rt|, what's rdesktop?11:45
soundraybillytwowilly: sounds like Krabat, but highly off-topic here11:45
cyzieLJL i have gs installed.11:46
sticazziis it something compatible with windows terminal services (aka RDP)?11:46
coldbootWhat file specifies the search order for X video drivers? Or just X drivers in general?11:46
billytwowillysoundray: krabat? It was american..11:46
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billytwowillysoundray: 1990's movbie..11:46
hysjokay, where is the enviroment folder or the locale-gen file?11:46
hysj:P11:46
Commander-Croweanyone?11:47
cyziewoot!  got it works :d11:47
Commander-Croweno one?11:47
cyzieLjL, soundray  pnmtopng image.pnm > image.png11:47
soundraybillytwowilly: any problems with Ubuntu that we can help with?11:47
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Commander-Crowehelp ME!!!11:47
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soundraycyzie: a two step process then, I suspected that11:48
hysjI got a problem with ubuntu, i can't remember how i changed from utf-8 to nb_no.iso-8859-111:48
cyziepstopnm plotexp.ps | pnmtopng <need to replace the input file here before pipe>   > filename.png11:48
soundrayCommander-Crowe: your sound stopped working as you upgraded to edgy?11:48
Karark_Having troubles with ubuntuforum:  I log in but am automatically logged out when browsing or the page refreshes... I have deleted all cookies... what else can I try?(using firefox 2.0 on edgy)11:48
sethkKarark_, try a different browser, see if the behavior changes11:49
soundraycyzie: in that case, you should probably replace the '|' with a ';'11:49
{_-IcE-_}hey guys, can anyone tell me how to forward a host to a specified destination ? (localhost)11:49
{_-IcE-_}resolv.conf?11:49
LjLsoundray, cyzie: yeah... pstopnm doesn't output to stdout by default (it can be made to), since a ps can have many pages, that are output to different pnm files11:49
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sethkcyzie, usually if you leave out the name, it reads standard in by default11:49
cyziesoundray, nope11:49
whoppix{_-IcE-_}, try /etc/hosts11:50
LjLsethk: yes but the problem is that the other command doesn't write to stdout11:50
Commander-Crowesoundray: yes11:50
sethkLjL, ok, didn't know that11:50
Daviey{_-IcE-_}, edit your /etc/hosts file to hard code routes11:50
soundrayCommander-Crowe: what hardware?11:50
Commander-Crowesoundblaster Audigy LS11:50
sethkDaviey, no, hosts has nothing to do with routes11:50
sethkDaviey, hosts is for name resolution11:51
soundrayCommander-Crowe: do you know which modules it used to load in dapper?11:51
{_-IcE-_}Daviey & whoppix : tnx, thats what i was lookin for11:51
cyziesethk, does not work that way for that pn case11:51
LjLsethk: true but that's probably what he was really asking about -- if by "host" he meant a hostname11:51
Davieysethk, balls!  if your put in a dns (ie localhost) and a new ip then it woul;d 'hardcode' it11:51
crimsunCommander-Crowe: pastebin ``lspci -vn && amixer''11:51
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LjLDaviey, that's not a route. technically he's quite right.11:52
sethkDaviey, no, the route exists already, you are just translating the name to an IP11:52
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sethkDaviey, that can be shown easily by ping'ing the ip, without anything in /etc/hosts11:52
DavieyLjL, sethk, hosts comes priorty over DNS11:52
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LjLDaviey: and routes have nothing to do with DNS11:52
sethkDaviey, irrelevant, but, that's controlled by /etc/nsswitch.conf11:52
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sethkDaviey, either can have priority11:52
Homer_Linuxhiya ppl upgraded from dapper to edgy everything went ok ish but now when i try to start a gnome session i dont have any taskbar/panels11:52
DavieyLjL, did my answer to the OP answer his question11:52
sethkDaviey, and, having priority doesn't change anything anyway11:53
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Davieysethk, okay you win, you having a bigger dick11:53
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sethkunless one source is wrong, of course11:53
LjLDaviey: probably, because he posed the question in the wrong terms. but now stop insisting that you're right, because you aren't.11:53
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sethkDaviey, no, I just know something about this.  don't take things personally.11:53
soundrayHomer_Linux: can you start a terminal?11:54
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Karark_sethk, epiphany does the same thing.11:54
sethkKarark_, interesting.11:54
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kamazeucianybody can help?: trying to connect to internet with a nokia CDMA cell/modem i get "NO CARRIER".11:54
Karark_sethk, and very annoying11:54
drbashirI cannot change any settings of the standard provided screensavers... and actually are there any that would actually be interesting (and no porn please)11:54
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sethkKarark_, any connection problems?  could just be congestion anywhere down the line.11:54
sethkKarark_, yes, I'm sure it is very annoying.11:54
Paddy_EIREhey I manually installed Firefox 2 in Dapper and was wondering how I could have it behave like before with the launchers only requiring "firefox" to be entered instead of me having to point exactly to the path11:54
Karark_sethk, nope, everything else works perfectly... just the forum is screwy11:55
black_13i am using ubuntu as vmware guess and im having problem getting netowrk connectivity can anyone offer me a solution/advice?11:55
sethkKarark_, you can run a packet sniffer and find out which side is breaking the connection, but that's rather tedious11:55
cyziepstopnm plotexp.ps | pnmtopng  <1>  > filename.png           // how can the result of before pipe  "pipe" into <1>   ??11:55
sethkKarark_, odds are it's something at the forum end, then11:55
cyziewoot sorry11:55
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Homer_Linuxyeah from the desktop ,i can also on in to xfce session (everything ok in here )11:55
SB|nblracerHi guys11:55
SB|nblracerneed some help again11:55
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soundrayHomer_Linux: see if you can start gnome-panel from a terminal11:56
SB|nblracerwhy wont the JAVA HOME remember its path11:56
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SB|nblracerI have to ttell it every time, i use this program11:56
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sethkSB|nblracer, you have to add it to an initialization file, usually $HOME/.bashrc11:56
cynicalPaddy_EIRE: well that only works when files are in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin, but I think you could create a symbolic link to get the same effect11:57
soundraySB|nblracer: how do you launch your java program?11:57
Davieysethk, even though the new default is dash sh?11:57
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sethkDaviey, the new default for what?11:57
SB|nblracersoundray i do it through the console/terminal window11:57
Paddy_EIREcynical: would i do this with the cp command11:57
soundrayCommander-Crowe: can you do what crimsun suggested?11:57
Davieysethk, console.... in edgy it aint bash11:57
Paddy_EIRE?11:57
SB|nblracersethk can you go in more detail11:57
sethkDaviey, no, sorry, but sh is just an alias to bash11:58
mandelumhello? I just installed a RC1 version of Edgy, can I, should I and how can I update?11:58
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crimsunCommander-Crowe: still waiting on the pastebin url11:58
httpdssneed help on log file size ... i have to to analize a 11Gb /var/log/messages .... huge !! isnt it? seems someone forgot that logrotate existed... any suggestions on what can be done to analize it ? (i only have ssh access to that server, yes server :S ))11:58
sethkSB|nblracer, you add to .bashrc something like:   export JAVA_HOME=/wherever11:58
cynicalPaddy_EIRE: no, you arent copying the binary file to /usr/bin, you are creating a link to it11:58
Davieysethk, your wrong.  in edgy it a symlink to dash11:58
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Paddy_EIREok11:58
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sethkDaviey, you are assuming that the existence of one link means that there are no other links, which isn't true.11:58
sethkDaviey, and dash is a shell symbol, not a file or program.11:59
SB|nblracerwhat is bashrc and where is it located sethk?11:59
Paddy_EIREcynical: would I beable to do this in the gui11:59
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sparrSeanTater: dash is /bin/dash :)11:59
sethkSB|nblracer, in your home directory, starting with a dot:   .bashrc11:59
Paddy_EIREcynical: with the /usr/sbin11:59
sparrsethk: ^^11:59
SB|nblracerthanks11:59
sethkSeanTater, right, I forgot that11:59
Davieysethk, wrong11:59
cynicalPaddy_EIRE: no11:59
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kamazeucianybody knows how to bypass "NO CARRIER" error while trying to connect to internet with an external modem?11:59
Paddy_EIREcynical: how do I do that then11:59
sparrsethk: you realize the default sh changed to dash from bash in the latest ubuntu release?11:59
cynicalPaddy_EIRE: you would type ln -s /usr/bin/firefox /opt/firefox/firefox12:00
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sethksparr, no I didn't notice, because I don't use either.12:00
soundraykamazeuci: dial the correct number12:00
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sparrsethk: interesting.  whats your sh?12:00
sethksparr, but that's good, bash has poor ksh compatibility12:00
sethksparr, zsh12:00
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sparrhmm12:00
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Paddy_EIREcynical: /opt/firefox/firefox being where ever I have firefox Installed12:00
Commander-Crow1um12:00
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sparrdidnt know zsh provided sh capability12:00
kamazeucisoundray: yes i am... its #777 the same I am using now with windows...12:00
sethksparr, which isn't to say that there aren't other good shells, but that's the one I like.12:00
Commander-Crow1my connection died12:00
cynicalPaddy_EIRE:  yes12:01
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sethksparr, yes, it has compatibility modes for ksh, sh, cshell, even bash if you have scripts with bash nuttiness in them.12:01

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