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scotthi, can anyone help me? i cant seem to apt-get remove gmediaserver, and error comes up about dpkg saying that invoking gmediaserver stop failed, (ive tried running command it says it stopped but sitll wont remove it), any way to force remove it?12:01
Akebono89dmesg has a bunch of "device not accepting address7, error -110" type messages12:01
blazemongercrass: true12:01
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AbstI tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it didnt work12:01
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Davieyphanter, If you prefer GUI's.  This might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21611712:02
blazemongerthat is where gentoo is beating ubuntu..if ubuntu were to install all of the dev requirements it would abolish redhat and mandriva12:02
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Tateygentoo isnt beating anyone12:02
phanterDaviey: I have no X running.. and I prefer to have no X running :)12:02
iterhaha gentoo is too busy recompiling to do much else12:02
AlReece45In edgy, will sounds directed to alsa or does it use oss drivers for it?12:02
Davieyphanter, fury muff12:02
phanterDaviey: maybe you have experience using it in the console12:02
blazemongerthe only thing i dont like about linux are the window managers..i want something more along the interface of amiga workbench12:02
Akebono89is this thing on?12:02
TGPOGentoo -- Linux for the OCD12:03
AbstDaviey: Nothing has worked yet12:03
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mabushow do i get ubuntu to give me the grub menu when it boots up12:03
phanter!fury muff12:03
mabusinstead of doing the default without prompt12:03
cratel-1I upgraded from dapper to edgy just to get a print server working but still no dice. This is getting very old...12:03
Davieyphanter, What have you actually done in the lvm process.  You have installed the package?12:03
TGPOmabus you can change that in the menu.list in /boot12:03
blazemongerthat's the beauty of linux though..if i learned a descent amount of c/c++ i could develop my own window manager12:03
AlReece45iter: too much compiling... ha, only compiled 7 programs/drivers and a kernel so far here, that was just to get everything working, thats because a few wouldn't compile12:03
AbstDaviey: Also between the nVidia conf and usual conf there is nothing different but device names and resoloutions12:03
mabusTGPO: no, I need like a key sequence on boot or something12:03
mabusTGPO: I need to get into rescue mode12:03
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cratel-1does anybody have a working print server cupsd.conf file for edgy?12:04
scottany way to force remove a package that wont remove? (and wont now let me install any either due to it beign stuck in a loop that it cant remove the package), tried -f but still doesnt work12:04
mabusTGPO: ah, esc in like, 2 seconds of time, I got it12:04
mabusnot much of a window..12:04
DavieyAbst, If they are identical.  i really don't think it's something your doing.  Maybe the packaged driver doesn't like your card.  Personally i would try installing the driver from source12:04
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phanterDaviey: yes... I also did the pvcreate comand on both disk...12:04
kandinskiblazemonger, if you learned a decent amount of c/c++ you could develop a new shell for windows too. People do. And you already have AmiWM12:04
Abst Daviey Isn't the driver binary only?12:05
blazemongercrass:wouldn't it be neat if Ubuntu installed ALL of the dev requirements12:05
frederick85what's the package name for apache , mysql and PHP12:05
Davieyscott, have you tried purge12:05
scottis that dpkg?12:05
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kandinskiblazemonger: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~marcus/amiwm.html12:05
phanterDaviey: when looking with fdisk (linux version of course) then it is a lvm partition (of whatever you call those things)12:05
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DavieyAbst, sorry it is - but it will probably be a newer version12:05
scottpurge didnt work, same error :(12:05
phanterbut now I have to format then with ext3, but I do not understand how12:05
AbstDaviey: Anyway, thanks. Shower now12:05
Davieyphanter, what about a pvscan12:05
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DavieyAbst, good luck12:06
scottsays a pre-removal script has failed :(12:06
kandinskiblazemonger: be scared, be very scared ;)12:06
frederick85what's the package name for apache , mysql and PHP12:06
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blazemongerkandinski: you rule!!!12:06
phanterDaviey: pvscan returns this: No matching physical volumes found12:06
kandinskigoogle does. I just open the tap.12:06
blazemongerthis is great..since i don't like gnome OR kde12:06
mcsmurflamp normally12:06
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Vladazare there any software that would have albums library such as winamp to listen to mp3?12:06
blazemongeri want to make a live cd distro that has nothing but amiga stuff12:06
xingi'm having difficulties setting up mysql on a debian server install. during installation i picked the LAMP option and when i /etc/init.d/mysql start, i get an error saying: mysqld got signal 4;12:06
lazzarethThis is my 3rd Attempt to install edgy Eft on my desktop pc, On fresh new partitions .. but i constantly get an ERROR 17: from grub when trying to boot the installed OS12:06
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phanterDaviey: but when I do pvcreate /dev/hda3 it returns: Device /hda3 not found (or ignored by filtering).12:07
Vladazfor ubuntu gnome?12:07
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blazemongerthat's how much of a amiga fanatic I am12:07
Davieyphanter, sounds like it didn't correctly create it then12:07
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kandinskiblazemonger: this is an 8 year old WM12:07
LjLblazemonger: there's amithlon already.12:07
phanterDaviey: so how do I delete them and recreate them in the correct way (because I did follow the guides)12:07
blazemongerone thing that came naturally to me when i installed linux was the scripting stuff12:07
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blazemongerwhat's that12:08
blazemongerwhat's amithlon?12:08
btb103so i'm trying to install ubuntu on my new AMD64 system and i can only get as far as it booting into x-windows and failing because it is "configured incorrectly" - the log file seems to show that my x850xt is being detected but then a fatal error occurs and it takes me to a command line prompt12:08
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Davieyphanter, when you fdisked it.  Did you create a primary partition?12:08
AlReece45My sound works, but Open Sound System doesn't output or locks up. How can I get OSS or OSS emulation working?12:08
LjLblazemonger: a very optimized amiga emulator tangled with a customized linux kernel, that boots up like a PC operating system.12:08
LjLnot free software.12:08
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Davieyphanter, if i remember correctly the type of the partition should be '8e' aswell12:08
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nikini have a big Question :D , i want a terminal based network i have 6 P2 300 -s with 128MB of RAM and i want them to run some office programs, a browser and email... so i was thinking installing a server, and then doing something like remote login, to run the programs on the server.12:09
blazemongerLjL: mm..i want to develop my own12:09
blazemongerbut one that's free12:09
phanterDaviey: yes, and I formatted with 8E (Linux LVM)12:09
nikinfirst question: can that be made?12:09
btb103so i'm trying to install ubuntu on my new AMD64 system and i can only get as far as it booting into x-windows and failing because it is "configured incorrectly" - the log file seems to show that my x850xt is being detected but then a fatal error occurs and it takes me to a command line prompt12:09
LjLblazemonger: hardly can be, since the Kickstart ROMs are copyrighted. have a look at http://www.aros.org maybe12:09
pkhcan someone tell me what the apt-??? command is to reconfigure my xorg.conf?12:09
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Davieyphanter, okay pvcreate /dev/hda3 defiently does not work?12:09
nikinsecond is: if yes then what package(s) i need for that12:10
LjLpkh: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:10
pkhLjL, thanks12:10
nikinthird is: do you know any tutorial describing something like that12:10
IcooHello people...has anyone here a Broadcom 4311 wireless card and got it to work?12:10
blazemongerbeing stoned and using ubuntu is fun12:10
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blazemongerit's the stoner-friendly os heh12:10
Davieyphanter, presumably you are doing that as root/sudo?12:10
phanterDaviey: I do not understand, because I did that already before, but now it returns:  Physical volume "/dev/hda3" successfully created12:10
phanterDaviey: sudo :)12:11
blazemongercan a window manager be coded using python?12:11
Davieyphanter, Crazy!12:11
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nikinBlaze: yup12:11
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Davieyphanter, then do vgcreate vg /dev/hda312:11
rbilnikin: see this ... it's an interesting way to do what you want ... http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html12:11
nikinthere is one made alredy :D12:11
TGPOblazemonger google around there prolly already ie12:11
Davieyphanter, vg = name of volume group.  I always use 'vg'12:11
blazemongernikin ; since i have ideas for a window manager but make it recreational drug friendly lol12:12
AlReece45Icoo, yes, unless you want the slower open source drivers (doesn't support high speeds), compile ndiswrapper 1.23 and use the windows driver12:12
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nikinrbil: ty12:12
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phanterDaviey: now I get the error I always get :(: No physical volume label read from /dev/hda3 \\ /dev/hda3 not identified as an existing physical volume \\ Unable to add physical volume '/dev/hda3' to volume group 'vg'.12:12
phanterDaviey: and \\ is a new line12:12
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rambo3blazemonger, go #ubuntu-offtopic12:13
blazemongercrass: is there a way to have all of the development requirements installeed on ubuntu?12:13
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notwisthow do i make nautilus not open a new window for each time i go deeper in the file system? i want it like before, with buttons at the top symbolizing each folder :(12:13
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blazemongerit's like alot of the dev stuff is spread out and not in one place12:13
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Davieyphanter, what does 'sudo pvdisplay' return12:13
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phanterDaviey: it returns: PV Name               /dev/evms/hda312:14
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cratel-1how do I generate a certificate in the ssl directory of cups?12:14
IcooAlReece45: can you pm me for a sec12:14
phanterDaviey: and it returns: Allocatable           NO12:14
Epidemikhow do you forcequit?12:14
Davieyphanter, evms?!12:14
btb103so i'm trying to install ubuntu on my new AMD64 system and i can only get as far as it booting into x-windows and failing because it is "configured incorrectly" - the log file seems to show that my x850xt is being detected but then a fatal error occurs and it takes me to a command line prompt12:14
phanterDaviey: It is what it says, I just copy-paste12:15
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Epidemikhow do you forcequit? or see a list of running processs?12:15
Davieyphanter, never heard of evms.  What happens if you  'vgcreate vg /dev/evms/hda3'12:15
AlReece45Icoo: did you get it or am I still having trouble with PM?12:15
phanterDaviey: sudo vgcreate vg /dev/evms/hda3 \\  Volume group "vg" successfully created12:15
shivWhats wrong with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29622/ I get 0x7 error when trying to load windows from grub. Please help12:15
Davieyphanter, wooohhhoooo!12:15
cpl-tnt44how do i change the keyboard layout ? what is the accelerator button in linux ?12:15
rambo3!fixres > btb10312:15
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phanterDaviey: so that works.... and what to do now? I still have no usefull volume right?12:15
ubotuevms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.5-15 (edgy), package size 84 kB, installed size 304 kB12:15
rambo3btb103, send more info about error12:16
notwisthow do i make nautilus not open a new window for each time i go deeper in the file system? i want it like before, with buttons at the top symbolizing each folder :(12:16
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youssefhello  I just got a new blekin wireless N1  802.11n card  does anybody know how to get it to work under ubuntu ???12:16
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btb103hm i don't have info right now, i will go home and do that from my friend's lappy though12:16
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IcooAlReece45: I'm waiting on PM12:16
rambo3ok read what ubotu told you12:16
Davieyphanter, now all you have to do is mkdir /mnt/xxx and then mount!12:16
IcooAlReece45: but I got the "Hello" ;-)12:16
btb103thanks for that :)12:16
TGPOyoussef apt-get fwcutter and then follow the man page12:17
phanterDaviey: but there is no filesystem on it yet.. is there?12:17
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AlReece45Icoo: oh ;P12:17
cratel-1anybody know anything about network printing?12:17
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:17
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IcooAlReece45: well we can also chat here, what laptop do you have12:17
nikincratel: if you have driver for Linux then CUPS and SAMBA will do the job.12:17
Davieyphanter, forgot another stage 'vgdisplay vg | grep "Total PE"'12:17
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rambo3!doesn't work12:17
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.12:17
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AlReece45Icoo: Compaq Presario v603012:18
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cratel-1nikin I've tried all that...in dapper and now edgy. If you know something more than referring me to the sites ubotu mentions, could you help me?12:18
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salimhi, how do I get to know what my FSB of my CPU is?12:18
eXistenZsalim, Read the specs!12:18
Davieyphanter, then what that returns type lvcreate -l 99999 vg -n (where 9999 = what prev command returned)12:18
phanterDaviey: returns: Total PE              12401    ... what does that mean?12:18
nikincartel: maybe... tell me the exact situation12:18
IcooAlReece45: well we seem to be under the same hood I have a HP NX7400...do you run Edgy?12:18
salimmine doesnt has any12:18
youssef<TGPO>  i tried it  it  didn12:19
salimisnt there any code?12:19
TGPOsalim spend some time reading the output of 'lshal'12:19
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Davieyphanter, so lvcreate -l 912401 vg -n storage12:19
cpl-tnt44how do i switch between languages in the keyboard layout on ubuntu (on windows its Alt+Shift)...???12:19
AlReece45Icoo: yes12:19
Argaelyop =)12:19
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TGPOyoussef thats the first time I have ever met a typing stutterer, care to try again?12:19
Davieyphanter, where storage = name12:19
Epidemikhow do you forcequit? or see a list of running processs?12:19
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows12:20
TGPOEpidemic ps -aux12:20
salimany greps?12:20
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youssef<TGPO>  i tried it  it  didn't work  lol12:20
cpl-tnt44how do i switch between languages in the keyboard layout on ubuntu (on windows its Alt+Shift)...???12:20
IcooAlReece45: well my problem is that Edgy recognized the card right away after install, and I could see it in networking but when I type lspci it still says unknown device 431112:20
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n1gkeEpidemik, in a terminal use ps ax12:20
youssef<TGPO>  E: Invalid operation fwcutter12:20
IcooAlReece45: Didi edgy didi the same on your side?12:20
cpl-tnt44can some 1 plz ? ^^^12:20
TGPOyoussef enable universal in your repository and try apt-getting it again12:20
Davieyphanter, do you want the filesystem to be ext3?12:20
AlReece45Icoo: Well, yes, but as it's working right now it says the same thing still.12:21
phanterDaviey: It does not work and returns: sudo lvcreate -l 912401 vg -n datalvm \\   /dev/dvd: open failed: Read-only file system  \\  Insufficient free extents (12401) in volume group vg: 912401 requir12:21
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rambo3salim fsb is memory clock speed of  cpu?12:21
godmasterfrench here?12:21
phanterDaviey: yes ext3 is the best I think12:21
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:21
cratel-1who updates ubotu? It gives me links for Breezy.12:21
salimi dunno12:21
Davieyphanter, remove the leading 912:21
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godmasterfrench here?12:21
Davieyphanter, my mistake12:21
IcooAlReece45: Well I'm happy if it's working, did you use soem guide, could you point me to it12:21
LjL!fr | godmaster12:21
ubotugodmaster: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:21
cpl-tnt44anyone know how do i switch between languages in the keyboard layout on ubuntu (on windows its Alt+Shift)...???12:21
cpl-tnt44israelis anyone ?12:21
ubotu         12:21
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IcooAlReece45: or if you have some spare tiem give me a few instructions?12:22
Epidemikwhen is ubuntu 6.10 comming? i thought it was due the 25th12:22
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uknowndouche /server irc.efnet.net12:22
LjLEpidemik: 26th. and it's out12:23
DavieyEpidemik, it's out - called edgy12:23
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rambo3Epidemik, tomorow12:23
AlReece45Icoo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1586159&postcount=35 tell me if/when you have problems with it b/c It doesn't seem to help many people12:23
rbilEpidemik: came and went12:23
Epidemikhow do i update12:23
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Epidemiko... im confused so it went away?12:23
LjLUbotu, please tell Epidemik about upgrade12:23
phanterDaviey: hmmm... and do you know what went wrong... I am checking the man page, but I do not yet see the mistake12:23
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IcooAlReece45: where did you get the win drivers?12:23
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EpidemikUbotu, please tell Ljl Thankyou12:23
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Davieyphanter, did you remove the leading 9?12:23
cpl-tnt44anyone know how do i switch between languages in the keyboard layout on ubuntu (on windows its Alt+Shift)...???12:23
Epidemikso is the update out or not?12:23
rbilEpidemik: alot of people who upgraded found their systems went away. I'd wait before jumping in to update12:24
Epidemikcause today is the 20th12:24
cpl-tnt44israelis anyone ?12:24
Davieyphanter, so "sudo lvcreate -l 12401 vg -n datalvm"12:24
LjLEpidemik: yes it is... today is what?12:24
Epidemik31st i meant12:24
LjLah. well it's 1th november here, but anyway, yes, it came out on 26th12:24
Epidemikso wait before updateing? im new to linux12:24
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Epidemikhow long should i wait12:24
LjLEpidemik, if your Dapper is working well, you shouldn't have a reason to upgrade. Dapper has the advantage of long term support also.12:24
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cpl-tnt44anyone know how do i switch between languages in the keyboard layout on ubuntu (on windows its Alt+Shift)...???12:25
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LjL!repeat | cpl-tnt4412:25
ubotucpl-tnt44: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience12:25
phanterDaviey: better news it gives now: "/dev/dvd: open failed: Read-only file system \\  Logical volume "datalvm" created", but what about the dvd thingie?12:25
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EpidemikLjl, arent theyre new features in the upgrade?12:25
cratel-1how do you generate ssl certificates?12:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ssl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:25
LjLEpidemik: i guess a few. depends if you're interested in them, though.12:25
rbilEpidemik: keep you eye around here, and when peeps stop asking for help because they upgraded and now their systems are screwed, you'll know it is ok :-)12:25
AlReece45Icoo: hp.com, they make you dl an exe, but all it does in extract stuff.12:25
CombatjuanHow does one use /dev/null and indirection to empty a file?12:25
cpl-tnt44ubotu thanks ill look into it ...12:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about certificates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:25
nikinpcl: CTRL+SPACE  .. try12:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about certificate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:26
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)12:26
Davieyphanter, not sure why it is probing dvd.  what does sudo lvdisplay return12:26
Jack``not french?12:26
IcooAlReece45: got them, do I only need the inf file or others to?12:26
cpl-tnt44ubotu it seems like a simple command that anyone should know ..12:26
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ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:26
Epidemikokay thanks for the info guys12:26
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LjLcpl-tnt44: well, i don't know it, because i'm running KDE. if someone else knows, i suppose they'd tell you12:26
nikincpl-tnt44 : did it work?12:26
AlReece45Icoo: you need bcmwl5.sys too12:26
Kannixcpl-tnt44: Did you check out system - preferences - keyboard already?12:26
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rbilI'd say most of the people in this channel are lurkers or haven't figured out how to disconnect from irc12:26
CombatjuanDoes anyone know if there a way to empty a text file without deleting it?12:26
IcooAlReece45: ok one more....this guide is for dapper, did you modified the steps for edgy?12:27
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LjLCombatjuan: try shred12:27
phanterDaviey: oke, now I also have a whole disk /dev/hdc to add to the lvm module... will you help me with that as well?12:27
CombatjuanI know it would be trivial to open it with vi and ":g/^/d"12:27
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rambo3Combatjuan, you mean truncate12:27
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cbx33Hi guys just put a sound card into my edgy machine....and now the system is really really laggy, but with no visible processes running....IRQ conflict?12:27
AlReece45Icoo, in reality I did it on edgy (shh)12:27
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Davieyphanter, hmm.. thats pretty much the same as b412:28
JestreCombatjuan: echo '' > filename12:28
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phanterDaviey: I see, I will try and get back if it does not work :012:28
IcooAlReece45: in reality??? what do you mean?12:28
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Davieyphanter, take it to chat?12:28
cbx33in that it is effecting the mouse and keyboard12:28
nikinCombatjua: owerwrite it with an empty file12:28
phanterDaviey: it will be mainly the part where I add it to the already created lvm12:28
CombatjuanLjL: I don't think that's quite a want but it is interesting.  Thanks.12:28
cbx33but running a top command shows nothing12:28
AlReece45Icoo, I did it on Edgy, but there was no reason it shouldn't have worked on dapper.12:28
AskHLHello, I would like to install Xubuntu Eft on my Xubuntu Dapper computer. However I have heard bad things about the upgrade, so I want to use a CD. How, is there any way of installing it such that the / and /home mount points (which are different HD drives) are identical to those before, but such that at least the content of /home is preserved?12:28
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Combatjuanniking, ramobo3, JEstre:  Thanks.12:28
AlReece45Icoo, make sure to compile ndiswrapper from source, the one in repositories didnt work for me.12:29
cpl-tnt44Kannix , yes . but i cant switch to hebrew mode for exsample in windows its alt+shift .12:29
CombatjuanYay.  I butchered everyone's name.12:29
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AskHLType How -> Now12:29
IcooAlReece45: well for me it's important that it worked on the new Edgy one 6.1012:29
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|rt|anyone have any recommendations for rss readers?12:29
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nikinAskHL: manualy partitiopning is good for that12:29
Davieyphanter, do pvcreate -M1 /dev/hdcX (or if it returns device not found use -M2)12:29
nikinjust select the one containing /home not to be formated just mounted12:29
TGPO|rt| firefox does it right out of the box12:30
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cynicalAskHL: If you put an edgy cd in a computer with dapper installed, it actually lets you upgrade from that12:30
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|rt|TGPO: yes but it doesn't archive items so things scroll off the list on active rss feeds12:30
AlReece45Icoo: well it worked for me on Edgy (I made the guide while on edgy)12:30
AskHLThank you nikin12:30
eegoreIs there any compelling reason to upgrade to Edgy  now that it has been released?12:30
IcooAlReece45: OK I'm going to do it now, I will tell you if it worked12:30
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Davieyphanter, are you still following?12:30
Kannixcpl-tnt44: right click into a toolbar, click on "add to panel", chose "utilities, keyboard indicator".12:30
eegorecynical: thanks for the info12:31
jattHmmm.... dash complains about the following construct12:31
jatt   if [ "${PPP_IPPARAM}" == "vpn_tunnel" ] ;12:31
jattwith the following error message12:31
jatt   [: 9: ==: unexpected operator12:31
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phanterDaviey: yes I am, it is working up till now (after you before-last comment :))12:31
TGPOeegore yes, its the lemming principal, every ELSE is doing it ... near a bridge too :)12:31
cynicaleegore: np12:31
AskHLcynical, that upgrade process -- will it be more stable than upgrading via the package managers? As I said, I've heard bad things about non-fresh installs so it would be best if it's a fresh install12:31
Intangirwhats a good port scanning application?12:31
WilsonI have read the wiki on ubuntu but i still cannot figure out how to set it up as an ftp server12:31
jattwhy? bash handles the if condition fine...12:31
IntangirWilson: get proftpd12:31
eegoreI may try is for my fourth 64 bit boot12:31
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cpl-tnt44Kannix , Thanks that would help .. but i asked for the keyboard shortcut (like Alt+shift in windows ) , maybe i can build a key shortcut ?12:32
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Davieyphanter, so you have pvcreated the next drive?12:32
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blazemongerAre there any other linux distros similar to Ubuntu12:32
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cynicalAskHL: yes since you dont have to download anything. But personally I havent run into any problems upgrading from the net. But just to be safe backup your home directory so nothing can go wrong12:32
phanterDaviey: Now I get this error: sudo vgcreate vg2 /dev/evms/hdc1  \\  Physical volume /dev/evms/hdc1 is of different format type (lvm1)  \\  Unable to add physical volume '/dev/evms/hdc1' to volume group 'vg2'.12:32
WilsonIs it a pakage i can download or do i need to torrent it?12:32
|rt|Intangir: nmap12:32
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IntangirWilson: its a package12:32
eegoreI seldom like to try anything bleeding edge for my production boot12:32
Wilsonthank you man12:32
phanterDaviey: yes, the pvcreate worked12:32
TGPOblazemonger debian, its what ubuntu is based off of12:32
LjLUbotu, please tell LeeJunFan_away about away12:32
IntangirWilson: you will have to add all the other repositories though12:32
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AskHLcynical, thank you very much. I'm already copying it :)12:32
Tateyany idea on why the /dev/mdX nodes aren't being created?12:32
blazemongerTGPO: i kno12:32
Davieyphanter, you want two volume groups?  if you want one.. use vgextend12:32
Tateyon my system12:33
blazemongerbut are there any ubuntu based distros12:33
cynicalAsKHL: np :D12:33
IntangirWilson: in synaptic goto the repositories option , and check on a bunch of those repos12:33
blazemongerhow do you make your own live cd distro like for specific tasks12:33
IntangirWilson: then refresh, then search for proftpd12:33
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phanterDaviey: one volume group... so now i do: sudo vgextend vg /dev/evms/hdc1  ???12:33
Wilsonok lemme take my laptop to my ubuntu machine12:33
IcooAlReece45: and the first problem...Ndiswrapper is now 1.28 (October 29 2006) but I need the 1.23 one (I guess) because in the guide it said that 1.25 didn't worked...where can i get 1.2312:33
Davieyphanter, yes12:33
TGPOblazemonger xubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, flubuntu (I think is officially released)12:33
cpl-tnt44Kannix , Thanks that would help .. but i asked for the keyboard shortcut (like Alt+shift in windows ) , maybe i can build a key shortcut ?12:33
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nikini ame installing Dapper Server. what packages i need to run an Xserver with Windowmaker or IceWM?12:34
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IcooAlReece45: found it12:34
phanterDaviey: I again get the error: Physical volume /dev/evms/hdc1 is of different format type (lvm1)  \\  Unable to add physical volume '/dev/evms/hdc1' to volume group 'vg'.12:34
cpl-tnt44how do i upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 ? and if its recommanded ?12:34
phanterDaviey: do you know what that means ?12:34
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blazemongeryou can download a server version and make a customized ubuntu?12:34
AlReece45Icoo: ehh12:34
cens0redhow do I check what apps are using what ports?12:34
TGPOnikin xorg xorg-server-core and then whatever WM you want12:34
nikinTGPO: ty12:34
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morgueWhy am I not getting "set as wallpaper" on firefox when I right click on pictures?12:35
phanterDaviey: is it not formatted in the right way (lvm2 or something)12:35
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withaYhow can you associate a protocol in gnome?  for instance, a page in firfox has a url of stuff://things.com and i want to associate the stuff:// protocol to an app.12:35
blazemongerthe one difference i've noticed is some packages in debian are more stable12:35
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Davieyphanter, could be lvm1 & 2 are different.  As a side note, are you going over 256gig?12:35
Kannixcpl-tnt44: well, browse through the options in "gconf-editor".12:35
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rbilcens0red: cat /etc/services12:35
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blazemongerwhat is lvm?12:35
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TGPOblazemonger you bet, ubuntu doesnt test as stringently as debian12:35
phanterDaviey: no, just 150 gig12:35
Wilsonok and with this i can create usernames for the FTP?12:36
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Davieyphanter, good.  It's 23:36 here so i can't hang around much longer.12:36
cens0redport 5699 is in use by another program. How do I check what's using it?12:36
phanterDaviey: but yes, the otehr partition was in lvm2, how come I have different lvm versions there :s12:36
Intangirsome clown has been trying to log into me as root for weeks12:36
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Intangiri just checked my logs and noticed ;)12:36
phanterDaviey: I understand... I will try a bit more and go to bed as well12:36
Intangirand i think i have root logons disabled all together12:36
Intangirso he has absolutely no chance of getting in12:37
ChousukeIntangir: I get that a lot too :P12:37
ChousukeIntangir: with random usernames too12:37
Chousukeit's common I suppose.12:37
morgueHi, I have a logitech webcam which has a microphone, on Skype it's working but when I try to record something using Ubuntu Sound Recorder all I get is silence... any suggestions?12:37
Intangirya i just read an article on digg about securing ssh12:37
Intangirand decided to have a look ;)12:37
ChousukeI don't even keep SSH on all the time :P12:38
withaYIntangir and Chousuke, through ssh they're trying to log in?12:38
ChousukewithaY: yes.12:38
Davieyphanter, not sure.  Can we get this single lvm part finished? you need to create the filesystem.  Use this "mke2fs -j -O sparse_super -m0 -i8000000 -L NAMEOFSTORAGE /dev/vg/storage12:38
IcooAlReece45: problem...I downloaded the surce, untared it, got into the folder via terminal, typed make (worked fine), then I typed install and it says Install: missing file operand12:38
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Wilsonintangir! With this ftp setup can i add username and login for people or is it just 1?12:38
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lollanHi I am looking for a .deb for the software IDEA (java IDE)12:38
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about idea - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:39
Davieyphanter, not sure.  Can we get this single lvm part finished? you need to create the filesystem.  Use this to create ext3 "mke2fs -j -O sparse_super -m0 -i8000000 -L datalvm /dev/vg/datalvm"12:39
IntangirWilson: with that ftp , you just add users to your linux box, and they automatically get to ftp to their home12:39
phanterDaviey: hmm, I will first play around to get the second disk in it as well... then I will sleep and see about the fs tomorrow... That way you go to bed without feeling bad (LOL) and I can go to bed in a minute as well12:39
Intangirtheres an option in the config file to make it so they cant browse outside of their home directory12:39
slinky_when I right click on a file in Nautilus, i get two entries in the popup menu saying "Open with Rhythmbox" and after uninstalling Rhythmbox I still get one entry, any help?12:39
mikedotyAnyone here happen to use Opera?12:39
mabushow do you modify what environment variable start up for users? like if I wanted ~/bin to be in the path of all users12:39
Davieyphanter, make a note of that command tho12:39
phanterDaviey: I have all of it logged anyway (i love gaim) so i can look at it tomorrow as well12:40
IntangirWilson: its called DefaultRoot12:40
Wilsonok so as long as they have a machine user they can ftp that so i can create 1 user for ftp and just add all files i want for ftp there12:40
IntangirWilson: set it to ~ (DefaultRoot ~)12:40
Intangirthen users who log in can only see their home directory12:40
withaYanyone happen to know how to associate a protocol scheme (for instance, http:// or ftp://) to a particular application?12:40
Intangiralso you can do like this DefaultRoot ~ !intangir, then users can only see home, except i will be able to see everything ;)12:40
Kannixcpl-tnt44: still having problems finding the keyboard layout switch keybinding?12:40
IntangirwithaY: there is a services file12:41
Davieyphanter, okay you can easily resize the filesystem.12:41
withaYslinky_, you might wanna look through /usr/share/applications to make sure that there aren't 2 rhythmbox.desktop files in there.12:41
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Davieyphanter, anyway good night12:41
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Wilsonso type that u just typed12:41
DavieyGood Night All!!12:41
phanterDaviey: thank you very much... and sleep well12:41
mirakhow does work the hibernation mode ?12:41
cbx33Anyone know about hardware conflicts?12:41
mirakit doesn't seems to work12:41
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lollanthanks ubotu12:41
cbx33I think my sound card is conflicting with my usb?12:41
cbx33is that possible?12:41
benseresolved the issue with DNS taking forever to resolve12:41
cens0redI'm getting so many zombie processes with the new ubuntu.12:41
miraklollan: it's ubuto12:41
slinky_withaY: i'll try that12:41
IcooAlReece45: problem...I downloaded the surce, untared it, got into the folder via terminal, typed make (worked fine), then I typed install and it says Install: missing file operand12:41
IntangirCUPS is for printing right?12:42
lollancbx33: I don't think so12:42
Intangirthis guys printer port is open to the internet, i wonder if i can print off of it?12:42
lollanmirak: ok lol sorry12:42
nikinits "make install"12:42
Intangirthis is the guy whos trying to hack me:
Intangirhes online now ;)12:42
mikedotyI'm having problems with tab cycling with my mouse in Opera.  Scroll up moves to the next tab instead of the previous tab.  (Mouse wheel works as expected in all other things I've tried.)  Anyone have an idea of a resolution?12:42
Intangirhes got ssh, rpcbind, and ipp open12:42
withaYIntangir, the /etc/services?  i don't think that's the one i want.  for example, i want to click on a lastfm:// link in firefox, but there's no application currently associated with that protocol scheme.12:42
nikinIntangir: try to hack him :D12:42
morgueWhy am I not getting "set as wallpaper" on firefox when I right click on pictures?12:42
IntangirwithaY: oh i dont know how to do that12:42
Intangirnikin: i would but, i dont know how ;)12:43
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AlReece45Icoo: looking real quick, give me anohter minute12:43
nikinIntangir: first try to find where he is12:43
Intangirwhat is rpcbind for?12:43
claheyIs there a magic way to upgrade my ubuntu box to eft?12:43
mirakhow does work the hibernation mode ?12:43
mirakit doesn't seems to work12:43
Intangirnikin: hes in china!12:43
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IcooAlReece45: THX trying to solve it too...I installed the build-essentials12:43
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Intangirchinese hackers are attacking me ;)12:43
TGPOubotu, please tell clahey about upgrade12:44
IcooAlReece45: I installed them right after edgy...so I don't know whats missing12:44
eegoreIntangir: why would they attack you?12:44
withaYyou can't say that definitively.  there are lots of anon. proxies in china that people route through.12:44
nikinIntangir: bad luck... they have the permission of the goverment, or atleast the goverment dont do nothing against them12:44
cbx33lollan what could be causing it12:44
Intangireegore: im just playing, i think he is running some sorta script that just searches whole IP ranges for open ssh ports, and tries to bruteforce in12:44
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cbx33the mouse and keyboard are practically unusable....12:44
claheyIt is a bit of a bug that the software updates app tells me it's available and sends me to www.ubuntulinux.org for upgrade instructions.  I go there and there are no instructions.12:45
cbx33moving the mouse is so laggy...and it's all since I put in a soundcard12:45
cpl-tnt44what is the commmand showing the current version of ubuntu installed ?12:45
eegoreIntangir: a very sloppy tactic12:45
Intangirnikin: well they dont do much about it anywhere12:45
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claheyThat message should probably display the correct URL.12:45
Intangireegore: i cant think of any other reason why someone from china would be trying to log into my machine ;)12:45
Wilsonintangir.. do i get all the packages found for proftpd?12:45
lollancbx33: you have no sound, that's it ?12:45
IntangirWilson: just get the proftpd one , and whatever dependancies it has12:45
cpl-tnt44what is the commmand showing the current version of ubuntu installed ?12:45
Vexxer91SonicvanaJr? You there Mr?12:45
eegoreMaybe the Russian mob looking for a spam machine?12:45
cbx33lollan no I have sound12:45
nikinIntangir: thats kinda true12:45
cbx33but the keyboard and mouse don;t work properly12:46
SonicvanaJrVexxer91, hey12:46
Wilsonthere is like 8 that say proftpd!!!!!!!!!!!!1112:46
Intangirhrm let me have a loot12:46
Vexxer91How's it goin buddy?12:46
slinky_withaY: I checked there is only ony entry for Rhythmbox, it is like a type/application has been defined twice somewhere, one never got deleted during a complete uninstall12:46
blazemonger;5~;5~;5~;5~;5~;5~is Debian more stable than Ubuntu?12:46
TGPOcpl-tnt44 its edgy12:46
cbx33lollan any ideas?12:46
withaYslinky_, ugh.  pita.  umm....12:46
AlReece45Icoo: Do you have the kernel source installed?12:46
cpl-tnt44TGPO , what's edgy ?12:46
lollancbx33: did you have sound before ?12:46
LjLblazemonger, no. yes. maybe. not the right place to wonder about that.12:46
IcooAlReece45: kernel source?12:47
TGPOcpl-tnt44 or to see what you have been using 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list12:47
lollancbx33: I mean you didn't just install ubuntu ?12:47
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cpl-tnt44TGPO i think u'v confusing me ...12:47
cbx33lollan I didnt have a soundcard before12:47
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cbx33I installed ubuntu12:47
cbx33was allworking fine12:47
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IntangirWilson: get the one named 'proftpd'12:47
Intangirthats it12:47
cpl-tnt44TGPO i asked how do i chk my current ubuntu version12:47
cbx33then I put asound card in now it doesn't work properly12:47
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Intangirthen edit /etc/proftpd.conf, change DefaultRoot to ~12:48
cpl-tnt44and how i upgrade it ?12:48
TGPOcpl-tnt44 that will tell you the version that you have been using for package management12:48
Intangirthen your good i gotta go12:48
Intangirlaters people12:48
Kannixcpl-tnt44: "uname -a"12:48
Wilsonok thanks12:48
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eegorecynical: I might throw in another hardrive this week and play around with it12:48
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Kubuhow can i se ethe temperature of my cpu?12:48
Kubuthrough ubuntu12:48
lollancbx33: I think you need to add the support for your sound card12:48
slinky_withaY: also when i double click to play an mp3 it says mp3 document when file content is mp3 audio12:48
eegoreWith the abilitiy to have eight drives, what the hell12:48
TGPOuname -a doesnt list version12:48
cpl-tnt44thanks kanix12:48
AlReece45try doing  sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r` and them aking again12:48
cynicaleegore: good idea, personally I havent noticed a big difference. Shutdown times are a lot faster but I rarely do that anyway. I guess just having updated software like firefox 2, not that you couldnt do that in dapper anyway12:48
Wilsoni can use no-ip duc for my ip to aaccess my server right?12:49
AlReece45Icoo: try doing  sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`and making again12:49
FlamekebabAnyone know how to fix the flash-crash error in Edgy in Flock?12:49
AbstAny one know how to fix this that happened after installing nvidia?12:49
TGPOnot is "edgy" "breezy" ect format12:49
cbx33lollan the kernel should pick up the driver12:49
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IcooAlReece45: I installed them right after edgy...so I don't know whats missin12:49
cbx33the sound now works fine12:49
cbx33no lag at all12:49
cbx33I think it must be IRQ12:49
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lollancbx33: no always, you need to configured the sound card12:49
compu73rg33kwhat's the code name for 6.06 ?12:49
compu73rg33kis it breezy?12:49
IcooAlReece45: ok but I will have to disconnect now to connect the laptop via ethernet12:49
cpl-tnt44How can i upgrade my ubuntu 6.06 LTS to 6.1 ?12:49
AlReece45Icoo: well the source isn't included with build-essensial.. so, did you install the source manually12:49
blazemongerAre aloto f packages in Debian testing more stable than the ones in ubuntu?12:49
lollancbx33: have a look in the system menu12:49
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AlReece45Icoo: k12:49
georgycompu : dapper drake12:50
TGPOcompu73rg33k dapper12:50
compu73rg33kah thanks, what was breezy?12:50
lollancbx33: Look at the device manager to see if your sound card is well known12:50
georgycompu : 5.1012:50
slinky_withaY: any ideas?12:50
compu73rg33kHmm has memcached been dropped in dapper then>?12:50
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Wilsonwhere is my proftp installed to/12:52
icoook I'm back on, could you please tell me the apt get adress again alex12:52
variantWilson: just run it12:52
eegorecynical: I plan to upgrade firefox anyway12:52
Wilsonthat  helps if i can find where to ru n it12:52
cpl-tnt44How can i upgrade my ubuntu 6.06 LTS to 6.1 ?12:52
eegoreand that is about it12:52
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ubotuFor upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade12:52
variantWilson: type the word in a terminal12:52
variantWilson: or select it from the menu12:53
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variantWilson: is that the server or client?12:53
GerMansonis there any way to upgrade to edgy? or i really have to make a new install?12:53
shadfcis there a specific channel to talk about beryl stuff?12:53
icooAlReece45: could you tell me the adress again12:53
Wilsonok i will work on it more later..12:53
variantshadfc: #ubuntu-xgl12:53
ubotuFor upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade12:53
mirakhow the UUID is generated for a device ?12:53
variantshadfc: and #beryl12:53
Wilsonhappy halloween guys12:53
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phanteroke, anybody. I sucesfully created my lvm disk and vgdisplay tells me it is 1-5 GB in size, if I mount it and do a df -h it tells me it is only 49GB. What is the problem?12:54
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blazemongerquestion..what is LVM?12:54
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icooAlReece45: could you tell me the adress again? I just connected the laptop12:55
TGPOblazemonger logical volume manager12:55
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO12:55
lollancbx33: so how is it going ?12:55
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AlReece45icoo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248168&page=412:55
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icooAlReece45: could you tell me the adress again? I just connected the laptop12:56
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icooAlReece45: I mean the kernel stuff12:56
AlReece45icoo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248168&page=412:56
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AlReece45u mean12:56
AlReece45icoo: sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r` ?12:57
^Pixel_how can I install Acrobat Reader in Firefox please?12:57
icooAlReece45: yep starting it right now12:57
^Pixel_AlReece45: any ideas?12:57
nikini just installed Dapper server, and my ethernet card hets an IPv6 address but my router doesnt support that, so cant understand why it gets that12:57
nikinand i have no network12:57
^Pixel_nikin: not my problem12:58
icooAlReece45: couldn't find package12:58
AlReece45icoo: eh12:58
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AlReece45^Pixel_: I havn't installed acrobat reader, the document reader is suiting me well.12:58
icooAlReece45: thats what it says12:58
TGPO^Pixel open synaptic and hit the search button for adobe OR pdf, install them12:58
^Pixel_how can I install Acrobat Reader in Firefox please?  anyone know?12:58
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^Pixel_TGPO: its installed, but not for Firefox12:59
georgyPixel : yes12:59
^Pixel_TGPO: any ideas?12:59
GerMansoni am using update-manager -c for upgrading to edgy, but it keeps saying me "system is up to date"12:59
^Pixel_hwo can I install reader into firefox?12:59
TGPO^Pixel_ then rung the search and install ANOTHER one12:59
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GerMansonproblem fixed12:59
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georgyGerMnson : solution ?01:00
Tokeiitoi have problem with taskjuggler installation/deinstallation. i've tryed evrything: apt-get remove, apt-get install -f, dpkg --remove, dpkg --purge but always i'm geting error: dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 1; How can i remove that packet?01:00
Tokeiitothis is full error code: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29630/01:00
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GerMansongeorgy: i was not typing correctly lol01:01
icooAlReece45: any idea?01:01
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LjLTokeiito: would seem the postinst for that package is broken. let me check (and break my system as well)01:01
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LjLTokeiito: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/taskjuggler/+bug/4872101:02
^Pixel_i found it01:02
^Pixel_sudo apt-get install mozilla-acroread01:02
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^Pixel_TGPO: thanks fore nothing01:02
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^Pixel_TGPO: all you had to tell me was "sudo apt-get install mozilla-acroread"01:02
cynicalarent u nice01:02
^Pixel_TGPO: thanks for nothing01:02
AlReece45icoo: well i tried seeing what apt-get said you need to compile it... but it doesn't tell me what I already have that it needs01:02
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TGPO^Pixel_ synaptic would have returned the same info smartass01:03
stmoondid you install xgl in edgy?01:03
floyd2Can gparted do a low level format to find/mark bad sectors?01:03
^Pixel_TGPO: you are a troll01:03
shiraI don't understand how themes in linux work.. how come when I install a theme, I don't get the images the theme comes with? For example, I dled thsi theme: http://art.gnome.org/preview.php?image=thumbnails/gtk2/GTK2-CillopMediterranean-Shot.png but when i use it, I don't see those image buttons. I get the color style, but nothing else01:03
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LjL^Pixel_, TGPO: calm down.01:03
TokeiitoLjL: this will work also on kubuntu or only on ubuntu?01:03
nikinwhy my network card gets an IPv6 adress innstead of IPv4 ???01:03
GerMansonshira: maybe you need an extra engine.01:03
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stmoonplease help me01:03
^Pixel_LjL: im so calm, that im sleepy ;)01:03
LjLTokeiito: it should work on kubuntu as well.01:03
LjL!helpme | stmoon01:04
ubotustmoon: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:04
^Pixel_nikin: not my problem01:04
LjLUbotu, please tell stmoon about xgl01:04
TokeiitoLjL: thank you01:04
luisbgif I change monitor do I have to change some setting in ubuntu, like the xorg.conf where the hsync and vsync are?01:04
shiraGerManson: that's what I assumed but I couldn't comple any of them.. lol01:04
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GerMansonshira: with images, do you mean.. icons?01:04
GerMansonshira: icons and themes are two different things01:04
floyd2Can gparted do a low level format to find/mark bad sectors? If not, what tool do I need?01:04
Sammy`how can I find out what bootloader is actually working on my system?01:04
icooAlReece45: what should i do now? maybe i need to add a repo?01:04
cynicalshira: you installed a control (a color scheme). What you need to do now is install an icon set and window border01:04
LjL^Pixel_, i don't think nikin was even talking to you.01:04
shirano images as in: http://art.gnome.org/preview.php?image=thumbnails/gtk2/GTK2-CillopMediterranean-Shot.png the button images01:04
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hangfireanyone know a site where you can download good sound bites for the Ubuntu login? I cant stand this new bantu clucking/bongo login intro01:05
shirathose arn't icons are they?01:05
LjL^Pixel_, reading back, i see that *you* are definitely a troll. please stop being.01:05
cynicalshira: no, I'm not sure why they arent the same01:05
shirahum i think i got it, i need to isntall the pixmap engine01:05
^Pixel_LjL: lets take a vote on that01:05
LjL^Pixel_: no01:06
nikinany ideas how i can set my networkcard to IPv4?01:06
^Pixel_LjL: ok np ;)01:06
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GerMansonShina: "Requires pixmap and clearlooks engines"01:06
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shiraah.. didn't see that01:06
^Pixel_LjL: do you have ability and power to kick people?01:06
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LjL^Pixel_: why do you ask?01:06
Kannixnikin: errm, what is the problem exactly?01:06
AlReece45icoo: try running sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` gcc gcc-3.401:06
aoupinikin: you should get both a ipv6 and an ipv4, do you onyl get ipv6?01:06
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LjLnikin, try editing /etc/network/interfaces and removing the references to sit0 (make a backup first)01:06
shiracynical: alright i installed it, I'm going to restrat x and see what happens01:07
firebird619Where can I find a good howto for installing MythTV? I'm running Edgy.01:07
icooAlReece45: you are the man, it's working01:07
Tim90My network works great thanks to POVaddct01:07
nikinKannix: i installed dapper server, and after the install there isnt net... i have checked eth0 and it works but has an IPv6 adress.. and it cant connect to the network01:07
floyd2How can I scan my drive for bad sectors?01:07
nikinaoupi: just v601:07
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AlReece45icoo: w00t01:08
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aoupifloyd2: fsck --help01:08
NET||abusehey guys, is there a gaim plugin to put up a little pic for my avatar? in messenger01:08
icooAlReece45: ok i installed them, and did make again, it was ok like last time, but install is still showing the same01:08
Tim90icoo:You know a song by Nas , Your the man01:08
Kannixnikin: how are IP details configured? DHCP?01:09
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nikinhmm in the interfaces file is: iface eth0 inet dhcp.. so that seems to be correct01:09
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aoupinikin: can you ping localhost?01:09
GerMansonNET||abuse: gaim does not need plugin for that.01:09
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NET||abuseoh,, trying to find the setting..01:09
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nikinyes i can ping localhost01:09
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cynicalNET||abuse: in gaim 2.0beta4 they have a universal avatar thing, very easy to set it or change it01:09
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GerMansonNET||abuse: acounts -> select your msn account - > modify -> see more options01:10
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NET||abusenah, on 1.5 i think01:10
Kannixnikin: What does "dhclient eth0" do?01:10
btb103is rambo3 still here?01:10
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AlReece45icoo, what's the output of " ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build | wc -l"01:11
NET||abuseoption doesn't seem to be there in my version :(01:11
jvaieth0 is the wired cat5 connection kannix01:11
floyd2aoupi, thanks. Does fsck just fix partition errors or can fix detect and fix physical errors also? I don't see anything in manpage about fixing physical errors.01:11
jadacyrusHI, i'm on edgy and I haven't received any system updates for a few weeks.. I keep doing apt-get update and it tells me im updated. Howevr I know this cannot be the case because I saw just today on the website Ubuntu 6.10 edgy has been official released and still no updates.. I have checked and Im not automatically downloading or installing the updates..what could be the problem?01:12
icooAlReece45: 2001:12
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nikinKannix: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to port 67 intervall (and a number)01:12
btb103I am having live boot/installation issues with X-Windows, I'm getting a Fatal server error: no screens found01:12
aoupifloyd2: I don't think you can fix physical errors, it can just detect them and then not use thoose sectors of the disk01:12
Kannixjvai: I understand that he is havong problems getting it configured correctly to utilize IPv4?01:12
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GerMansonNET||abuse: keep looking, i am sure is there.01:12
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cmcraedoes anyone know how to set up the sound card in Ubuntu linus01:12
TGPOjadacyrus edgy doesnt mean that you will get updates01:12
Kannixnikin: So does the dhcp request time out?01:12
Hobbinjadacyrus: It's because the auto-update hasn't kicked in yet01:12
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LjLjadacyrus, when was the last time you actually *did* get updates?01:13
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jadacyrusI don't understand, when I will i start getting updates01:13
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nikinyup.. NO DHCPOFFERS recieved01:13
jadacyrusWell, probably 3 weeks ago01:13
dieselWhat happened to the XFCE compositor with Edgy?01:13
jvaiwhaat! i had that problem on an older laptop w/ a pcmia card01:13
Kannixnikin: Then your setup is not working. Can you set an IP directly?01:13
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LjLjadacyrus: try typing "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"01:13
^Pixel_LjL: do you have ability and power to kick people?  if not, be silent01:13
HobbinDoes anyone here run the Ubuntu server?01:13
jvaimy bad kannix01:13
jadacyrusLjL: i just tried that, nothing01:13
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azurealdoes anyone happen to know if /etc/mplayer/input.conf is the real config file for mplayer?01:14
TGPOjadacyrus to move to edgy you need to upgrade, to manually update open a terminal and 'sudo apt-get update' and see if there are any packages01:14
georgyHobbin : yes01:14
Kannixjvai: No problem. I have a hard time keeping track in here myself :)01:14
azurealthere are some things commented out...so01:14
GerMansonsee ya guys01:14
nikinKannix: if you tell me how01:14
aoupiLjL: thx01:14
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cmcraeDoes anyone know how to setup a soundcard in Linux01:14
jadacyrusTGPO: im already on edgy01:14
btb103X-Windows is having some sort of trouble detecting my video card, an x850xt - the error goes (WW) ATI: PCI Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected!01:14
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rothgarI just installed edgy with a nvidia 6200.  I installed the latest driver using "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and then restarted but now I just get a error and a black screen.  can anyone help me at least get to a terminal so I can turn on the nvidia flag in xorg.conf?01:14
jadacyrusTGPO: i just havent received any updates in quite some time and i find that very odd.01:14
dieselHobbin: yes01:14
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Kannixnikin: ifconfig eth0 <address>01:14
icooAlReece45: 20 is that ok?01:15
HobbinGeorgy & or Diesel: Do I need a monitor to set it up?01:15
TGPOjadacyrus sorry, misread version, do a manual check then01:15
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AlReece45icoo: perhaps01:15
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AlReece45icoo, output uh 'bash -c "ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build | grep .config" | wc -l'01:15
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TGPOjadacyrus 'apt-get update' 'apt-get upgrade'01:15
Kannixnikin: You have to use the right address of course. You may have to set the nw mask manually, as well.01:15
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georgyHobbin,: you mean to run it ?01:16
rothgaris there a way to start ubuntu without gnome starting (holding shift or something?)01:16
icooAlReece45:   001:16
LjL!caps | cmcrae01:16
ubotucmcrae: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.01:16
HobbinGeorgy: To run or install; I know a lot of servers don't need monitors01:16
TGPOrothgar you mean with no GUI?01:16
jvaikannix does he have firestarter? he may be able to config more so01:16
fatlipm4a decoder for linux?01:16
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fatlipwell; ubuntu01:16
nikini have now.    nw
rothgartgpo: ya the new nvidia driver broke gnome01:16
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rothgarnow I don't know how to get into a terminal01:17
georgyHobbin: to install you need a keyboard and monitor, to run it only a keyboard01:17
TGPOrothgar boot in single user mode is the easiest IMO01:17
Kannixnikin: Well? Are you on the network then?01:17
jokoonIsnt there some foobar equivalent on linux ? xmms is too graphic and amarok is too complicated, I just want to play audio files and save playlists01:17
jvaihe can config for dhcp thru a gui like firestarter01:17
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jadacyrusTGPO: I've been trying apt-get update and apt-get upgrade for the past 2 weeks and havent gotten one single update01:17
Kannixnikin: Then it should work now.01:17
nikinit doesnot01:17
nikini tryed to ping01:17
aoupijokoon: if you find one, tell me :)01:17
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nikinit cant even reach the router01:17
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jokoonok aoupi01:17
cmcraeso I guess that noone knows how to set up a sound card....01:17
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Kannixnikin: Do you know the IP address and network mask of your server?01:18
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AlReece45icoo: jeez, while i'm trying to search, try compiling the latest 1.2801:18
cynicaljokoon: rhythmbox is pretty simple01:18
LjL!ask | cmcrae01:18
ubotucmcrae: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:18
Kannixcmcrae: What lets you come to that conclusion?01:18
HobbinGeorgy: Right on. From there, I'm probably going to route my connection between this computer and that one, then control that from here01:18
cynicaljokoon: I just change the layout to remove some things and it looks similar to foobar, albeit with bigger buttons01:18
Kannixnikin: You can't just guess one.01:18
nikinKannix: i know the ip and nm of the router01:18
mirakhi upgraded dapper to edgy and now the boot fail, the kernel can't find root device. I use lvm but I changed with the appropriates names01:18
TGPOjadacyrus dont shoot the messenger on this one, that usually indicates your up to date, come to think of it I havent had an update in awhile either01:18
btb103can someone help me try to figure out why x-windows can't detect my video card properly and what i can do to boot/install ubuntu01:18
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cmcraewell I asked if anyone knows how to setup a sound card 3 times and no one responded01:18
nikinKannix: why i cant guess an IP?01:19
HobbinGeorgy: I'm new to Linux, and I'm trying to make my server all linux-based01:19
georgyHobbin : you can do it with ssh01:19
AlReece45icoo, one other thing, you did type "sudo make install" right?01:19
jokoonaoupi : see what cynical just said :)01:19
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Kannixnikin: well, a netmask alone is no help. You need to know the network as well.01:19
mirakmy old kernel from dapper manage to boot though01:19
jokoonthanks cynical01:19
aoupijokoon: :)01:19
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LjLcmcrae: perhaps that could be because it's not quite a question that makes much sense. soundcards usually work out of the box. if you have a problem, you should state which problem, and which card, and the relevant information.01:19
joshritgercan i get help with making a network bridge from windows to linux01:19
icooAlReece45:  yeah thats what I just realized, I typed just install...now it works...sorry -.- I'm such an idiot!01:19
cynicaljokoon: np, btw here is a screenshot to see what I mean http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=18465&d=116214751701:19
Kannixnikin: and generally, you should be assigned an IP for your server. It has to be unique in the network, or you are asking for trouble.01:19
AlReece45icoo: yeah :)01:19
cmcraeI am trying to figure out how and/or why the sound card was not installed when I installed everything.01:19
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georgyHobbin : then you need to read some docs before01:20
AlReece45icoo: brb, i'm trying 1.28 real quick01:20
LjL!sound | cmcrae01:20
ubotucmcrae: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems01:20
icooAlReece45:  what about thoe kernel things i installed can I leave them01:20
ut2004can someone help me im tring to set up my linux box as a gateway using 2 nic cards01:20
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Kannixnikin: Are you in a home environment and just toying around or is this in a professional environment?01:20
HobbinGeorgy: What do you suggest reading?01:20
AlReece45icoo: you can probably remove them now, though you should probably keep gcc4.301:20
mareks_anyone in here know how to parition a mac harddrive that has os x installed on it yet still keep that installation?01:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hosts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:20
jokoonZotz noce01:20
cmcraewell neither the sound card that is hardwired to the motherboard or the one that I installed did not work when I installed Ubuntu01:21
icooAlReece45:  how do I remove them?01:21
nikinok i think i found the prob01:21
nikinhow can i set the netmask?01:21
nikinKannix: i cant understand... whyat do you mean?01:21
joshritger!network bridge01:21
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georgyHobbin : setting up a ssh server, dhcp server and set up a fiewall01:21
nikinKannix: i have set the DHCP to give a fix IP to the server01:21
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georgyHobbin : firewall01:21
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ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)01:21
btb103I am getting a Fatal server error: no screens detected! when I try to boot/install ubuntu live. It seems to be having trouble detecting my radeon x850xt does anyone know what I can do to troubleshoot this?01:21
Kannixnikin: if you screw up the config of that server, are you likely to take down a whole company, or just your own server in your bedroom?01:22
asc_I just upgraded to Edgy, and it won't start the x server.  The error message is "could not open default font "fixed".  Any ideas how to resolve it?01:22
Kannixnikin: ok, which IP is that?01:22
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LjLasc_: how did you upgrade?01:22
nikinKannix: its a toy server :D01:22
TGPOut2004 your going to spend some time in hosts and host.allow getting that set up01:22
btb103I am getting a Fatal server error: no screens detected! from x-windows when I try to boot/install ubuntu live. It seems to be having trouble detecting my radeon x850xt does anyone know what I can do to troubleshoot this?01:22
asc_LjL: 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' from Dapper.01:22
HobbinGeorgy: Good idea, I should probably read all about it before I do anything01:22
Kannixnikin: Since DHCP is not working and times out, have you checked your cable?01:22
joshritgerdoes anyone know how to setup a network bridge from a windows computer to xubuntu?01:22
LjL!upgrade | asc_, well, that was not the best way01:23
ubotuasc_, well, that was not the best way: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade01:23
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ut2004i dont understand01:23
nikinyes i checked but do it again01:23
LjLasc_: anyway, i'd try running "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" (or "kubuntu-desktop" if you're using kubuntu, or whatever applies)01:23
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georgyHobbin : when you install it, then you can begin with the other services01:23
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jokoonseems that when I add a file from a working ntfs partition, it load something but no item appears01:23
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btb103I am getting a Fatal server error: no screens detected! from x-windows when I try to boot/install ubuntu live. It seems to be having trouble detecting my radeon x850xt does anyone know what I can do to troubleshoot this?01:23
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icooAlReece45:  when blacklisting , should i add "blacklist bcm43xx" or just "bcm43xx" to the file01:24
LjL!repeat | btb10301:24
ubotubtb103: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience01:24
Kannixnikin: well, don't "check" it by looking at it and nodding. Change it for a different cable until you can properly test it.01:24
kevuhow do i tell a program to start on start up?01:24
AlReece45rothgar, you there?01:24
tamcan someone recommend a good mail client that will forward on a particular template given when a mail comes in with specific charetaristics? it can't be thunderbird tho01:24
LjLUbotu, please tell kevu about startup01:24
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nikinKannix: this cable worked about 20 hoours ago01:24
CptBrutalis it normal for xmms to freeze on some streams?01:24
nikinso it should work01:24
AlReece45icoo: blacklist bcm43xx01:24
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keiferCan anyone think of why I wouldn't get a connection via a ethernet hub in edgy/dapper, while the same device works in breezy?01:24
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HobbinGeorgy: My plan is to make a website, and then a FTP server01:25
asc_LjL: well, we do live and learn.  Ah... I just remembered that apt-get upgrade says it's holding back about fifty x-related packages.  Know of a handy command that might cause them to install?01:25
Kannixnikin: well, that is, unless someone tripped over it, the cat had a go at it, you yanked it while toying with the router, etc.01:25
kruncherhas anyone else had problems with k3b not getting the cddb entry when copying a music cd?01:25
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asc_LjL: (if you don't, I'll try ubuntu-desktop as recommended)01:25
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LjLasc_: ouch. do you have any third-party repositories enabled?01:25
AlReece45rothgar, I have the nvidia go 6150, and the nvidia-glx driver in the repository didn't work with it, I think its the same with the 6200, you need to install the beta nvidia driver if you want to use it01:25
georgybtb103,: do in the terminal sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and choice vesa driver for your card01:25
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iratsuif i want to make a fresh install of ubuntu server on a server, should i use 6.06 LTS or 6.10?01:25
btb103thx georgy01:25
georgyHobbin : then you have to install apache2 and proftpd01:26
nikinKannix: just a sec i test it with other PC01:26
fatlipis there a repo for audio formats like m4a?01:26
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LjLiratsu: as the name says, 6.06 has Long Time Support, so it might be a better choice for a server in the long run01:26
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asc_LjL: No.01:26
rothgarAlReece45: thanks for the tip, how can I get to a terminal though to install the beta driver?01:26
jokoonWhy Totem reads a file (double click) but dropping it on rythmnbox doesnt make it appear ?01:26
kevuLlj: but it's a c program aka terminal app, not gui one.01:26
LjLasc_: well, can you run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and post the full output to the pastebin please?01:26
AlReece45rothgar, also when x doesn't start, you can go to a terminal by using CTRL+ALT+F(1-6)01:26
btb103how do i choose a vesa driver?01:26
iratsuLjL: so what does long term support imply?01:26
LjLkevu: what sort of thing, exactly?01:26
boricua5 years of update01:26
LjLUbotu, please tell iratsu about lts01:27
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rothgarAlReece45: thank you01:27
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rothgarAlReece45: I was pounding my keyboard trying to figure that out01:27
boricuawhen i run synaptic i see these 2 pkgs greyd out how come http://pepino.is-a-geek.org/~boricua/synaptic.jpg01:27
btb103georgy: how do i choose a vesa driver?01:27
AbstLjL: Posh posh, 'please'01:27
icooAlReece45:  ok got till step 4, i installed the driver but when typing "ndiswrapper -l" i get invalid driver01:27
kevuLjL: a c program that i want to execute at each bootup, but not depending on gnome to do it. how would i do this from the console?01:27
asc_LjL: I'm short one graphical web browser right now01:27
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LjLAbst: i'm not typing that, it's an automatic replacement :-P01:27
HobbinGeorgy: Yea I'll install those later, I've ran a website off of this computer before. The only issue I have, is with an entire other computer dedicated to being a server01:28
AbstLjL: haha01:28
LjL!boot | kevu01:28
ubotukevu: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto01:28
AlReece45rothgar: your welcome, also if you're intrested Step 2 for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851 is what i've been redirecting to01:28
georgybtb103, : normaly, you can choice it from the list01:28
TGPOAlReece45: did you have him lspci -n to match driver versions not just driver names?01:28
LegendreHello! Could someone point me to a HOW-TO for installing / running ubuntu from a USB flash drive?01:28
AlReece45icoo: you had the .sys file in it right?01:28
georgyHobbin : ok01:28
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btb103georgy: i typed the command in as you said and it said unknown option for x o r g01:28
Legendremy CDrom crapped out, and I need to install from a usb flash =/01:28
LjLkevu: adding to /etc/rc.local should do.01:29
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asc_LjL: It lists the same packages as 'sudo apt-get update'.  They're mostly xserver-xorg-input-* and python*01:29
LjLUbotu, please tell Legendre about install01:29
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icooin my home folder together with the inf file01:29
TGPOicoo are those downloaded drivers or from CD?01:29
AlReece45TGPO: I believe the driver he downloaded from the hp.com site was for his own computer, unless he just downloaded it frmo someone else01:29
HobbinGeorgy: Thanks for the help dog01:29
cmcraeis there a way to find out if a device is installed. For example. My Sound card and my hardware mounted sound card01:29
LjLasc_: you mean "sudo apt-get upgrade" i suppose. anyway, please pastebin the full output -- of dist-upgrade or upgrade, doesn't really make a difference. and pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file as well01:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:29
georgybtb103, : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:30
AlReece45icoo: you did download from hp.com and your computer model right?01:30
TGPOAlReece45, icoo theres the problem01:30
nikinKattix: the cable worx fine with my notebbok01:30
asc_Oh.  And xserver-xorg-core.  That could do it.01:30
Kannixnikin: ok01:30
Kannixnikin: lets go through things again from scratch.01:30
icooTGP0: ?? how01:30
georgycmcrae, : lspci01:30
TGPOicoo do 'lspci' and find your card write down the hex address01:30
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AlReece45TGPO: its not just some linked download, he went to hp.com and support and drivers for his laptop model to get the drivers, not just some drivers i've been redirecting people to01:30
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nikinKannix: its a fresh install of ubuntu LAMP server01:31
TGPOAlreece45 I had the SAME problem01:31
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Kannixnikin: ifconfig shows the IP address you manually assigned, correct?01:31
asc_LjL: It could take a while; I'll have to play around with nano and lynx.01:31
nikinKannix: 1 sec.. i ame rebooting01:31
TGPOicoo 'lspci -n' and write down the numbers in a format like xxxx:xxxx01:31
TGPObrb have to get a link for you01:31
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btb103georgy: what do i enter for the video card's bus identifier, it's PCI-E01:32
georgybtb103, : nothing01:32
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nikinit worx after reboot01:32
cmcraeok well I found the sound card yet I am not getting any sound01:32
Kannixnikin: oh grand.01:32
LjLasc_: i understand - well, just try installing ubuntu-desktop first. it should do no harm anyway (at worst, it'll reinstall packages that were installed by default but which you removed later)01:32
btb103georgy: leave default PCI:1:0:0?01:32
ZoohouseI am a little confused about the "Hot new item" or what ever in KDE.. I heard that I can use it to download bunch of extra stuff like OO templates. How do I open this program??01:33
georgybtb103 : yes01:33
nikinKannix: btw thanx for help :D01:33
Kannixnikin: you're welcome :)01:33
icooTGP0: 14e4:431101:33
Zoohouseopps, this is Ubuntu not Kubuntu01:33
TGPOicoo hold one01:33
AlReece45TGPO: btw, that's mine too :P01:33
boricuawhy does apt keep pkgs back The following packages have been kept back:01:33
boricua  libggi2 mplayer01:33
AlReece45icoo, what folder did you install the drivers from?01:34
icooAlReece45:  damn man...I hope we will figure this out01:34
mabushow do you unrar archives with multiple parts in ubuntu?01:34
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aoupimabus: install unrar, then unrar e firstrar.rar01:34
AlReece45and bcmwl5.inf  bcmwl5.sys was in there right?01:35
TGPOicoo AlReece I cant connect to the ndiswrapper wiki for some reason01:35
AlReece45TGPO: :-(01:35
icootry accesing it from google cache, thats what I did01:35
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TGPOicoo AlReece on that site, you will find somewhere that has a list of drivers listed out with that xxxx:xxxx address01:36
TGPOicoo AlReece those are the drivers specific for your card01:36
AlReece45icoo, what is the output of 'lsmod | grep bcm43xx'01:37
kevuLjL: ok rc.local was what i was looking for, thanks. but what is the syntax? can i just add /home/kevu/script.out there?01:37
TGPOicoo AlReece on another note, the method described at http://bcm43xx.berlios.de is much better than ndiswrapper01:37
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AlReece45TGPO, I did that at first, but for one, this card isnt' supported. Another reason is that I can't go faster than 20Kbps on it01:38
icoothis is what I found01:38
newbuntiea couple of days ago I installed a tv card, after turning the comp on it uncompressed linux and booted the kernel fine, but then I got mount errors (mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such device, Mounting /root/dev on /dev/ .static/dev failed: no such file or directory, target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init)01:38
icooLaptop: Compaq Presario V5204NR01:38
icoo    * Card: Broadcom Corporation 802.11b/g controller01:38
icoo    * PCIid: 14E4:431101:38
icoo    * Subsystem: 103C:136301:38
icoo    * Driver: Broadcom Driver (provided with the laptop) bcmwl5.inf; matches the official Broadcom download01:38
icoo    * Distribution: Gentoo Linux 2006.1, emerge system dated 2006102401:38
icoo    * Ndiswrapper vesion: 1.2701:38
icoo    * Other: Kernel 2.6.17-r8 ( patched by the Gentoo folks01:38
newbuntiethen it defaulted to the built-in shell (ash)01:38
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asc_LjL: Trying.  I'm on 56K, so I probably won't get back to you in a reasonable timeframe. :)01:38
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LjL!paste | icoo01:38
ubotuicoo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:38
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btb103georgy: i finished re-configuring X and am now back at the command prompt. what should i do?01:38
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icoosorry guys01:39
georgybtb103, : startx01:39
newbuntieany ideas what could've caused it and how I can fix it?01:39
LjLkevu: yes, though i would *not* add a script that's in your /home directory as a startup script. move that script somewhere else (/usr/local/bin would be the logical choice), and set the permissions so that only root can write to it01:39
btb103georgy: damn, same error01:39
icooAlReece45:  it gives out nothing01:40
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TGPOicoo anyway, find the driver that matches that second address code and everything will pop up hunky dory, has the last 3 times I'v followed that path01:40
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LjLkevu: (chown root:root /usr/local/bin/scriptname ; chmod o-rwx /usr/local/bin/scriptname)01:40
georgybtb103 : do the same and choice vesa and 24 bit color01:40
AlReece45icoo: did you have another ndiswrapper installed before?01:40
kevuLjL: what could go wrong if i had it in /home/?01:40
icoofresh install of edgy01:40
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eternale1alright, i've had some issues getting xserver/gdm so i found apost on ubuntu forums talking about adjusting the value of the gdm-reconfigure to "vesa" , well i've done and i'm back and running X but things seem sluggish... for example, while scrolling in any web browser it looks like its "drawing" the page as i scroll with the mouse... terrible explanation i know but its hard to explain... any ideas how to get back to better performance? or an explanat01:41
btb103georgy: where do i choose vesa? i selected 24 bit on the last config01:41
LjLkevu: that anybody who gets access to your own account could gain root as easily as eating a piece of cake.01:41
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elriahHi all.  If I screwed up my nsswitch.conf file and I need to login in maintenance mode, what's ubuntu's root password (or  how do I login in maintenance mode) ?01:41
newbuntiea couple of days ago I installed a tv card, after turning the comp on it uncompressed linux and booted the kernel fine, but then I got mount errors (mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such device, Mounting /root/dev on /dev/ .static/dev failed: no such file or directory, target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init)01:41
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newbuntiethen it defaulted to the built-in shell (ash)01:41
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newbuntieany ideas what could've caused it and how I can fix it?01:41
icooTGP0: but it says: Driver: Broadcom Driver (provided with the laptop) bcmwl5.inf; matches the official Broadcom download01:41
puffI'm having a problem with my ipod not automounting.01:41
LjL!nickspam | abst01:42
ubotuabst: changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu can get you removed - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users, the same goes for using noisy away see (/msg ubotu away) for more details "/away reason" sets your client away silently, thanks01:42
georgybtb103, : normaly they propose the ati driver, so scroll down and choice vesa01:42
icooTGP0: there is no link01:42
AbstLjL: !sorry | LjL01:42
btb103georgy: i gotcha, i will try that01:42
TGPOicoo the list is there01:42
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puffI'm also having a problem with gtkpod going away when I click on the playlists (presumably crashing, though maybe it leaves behind a lock file, 'cause when I start it again it reports that ther'es a gtkpod already running)01:42
TGPOicoo I helped someone with this last week and the list was there01:42
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fatlipi cant find how to playback m4a on edgy... which library do i need from the repo for the aac codec?01:43
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kevuLjL: but will there be any problem? because ubuntu does not have root by default. will the chown command work?01:43
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AlReece45icoo: you ran the ndiswrapper -i with sudo right?01:43
georgykevu : for root command just use sudo before the command01:43
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shirayou know how Edgy automounts hard drives and displays an icon on the desktop? How do I prevent it from doing that, putting an icon on the desktop?01:44
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icoonope I did01:44
icooi checked the terminal log01:44
elriahHi all.  If I screwed up my nsswitch.conf file and I need to login in maintenance mode, what's ubuntu's root password (or  how do I login in maintenance mode) ?01:44
LjLkevu: you'll need to run it with sudo, but yeah01:44
kevuLjL: do i insert that line as it is in rc.local, or should i execute the commands on that file and then just add /usr/local/bin/script ?01:44
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icooit asked me if I'm root the first time so i figured out i need sudo, so yes I used sudo01:44
LjLkevu: and ubuntu has root (as in having a superuser). it's just that you can't directly access the "root" account, and you use sudo instead01:44
btb103georgy: i chose vesa this time and my monitor went blank and into powersave mode01:45
LjLkevu: i'm not getting you01:45
case1Does anybody in here know where I could get some help with RRD ?01:45
LjLkevu: you should move the script, and run the chown and chmod commands, now. in /etc/rc.local you simply run the script01:45
case1I'm trying to setup netflow and flowscan01:45
georgybtb103 : sync range to hihg ?01:45
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kevuLjL: so in rc.local there should be only /usr/local/bin/script. right?01:46
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georgybtb103, : *high01:46
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LjLkevu: right01:46
icooTGP0: did you look at the list01:46
TGPOicoo here's the link http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R115321.EXE01:46
case1is anyone in here fam. w/ flowscan ?01:46
hckrSidHi all... just installed edgy... now if I connect an external monitor (or projector) to the laptop, it displays only on the external monitor.01:46
btb103georgy: sync range was auto-detected, i used that and verified it online01:46
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hckrSidAnyone have this issue?01:46
hckrSidI have an ATI radeon card, using the "ati" xorg driver.01:47
icooTGP0: DEll? I have a HP01:47
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case1hckrSid: are you sure it isn't bios settings on your lappy?01:47
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kevuLjL: ok thank you!01:47
hckrSidcase1, it used to work fine on dapper.01:47
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georgybtb103 : sorry, out of idea01:47
case1hckrSid: strange01:47
Ktioanyone knows a good prog for dvb viewing ?01:47
TGPOyour matching the the system address, its the same manufacturer of the chipset your using01:47
TGPOwho made your laptop doesnt mean squat01:48
hckrSidcase1, it displayed on both screens... also now on edgy as soon as I connect an external monitor it logs out and gives me a login screen.01:48
newbuntiewhat would cause some of my file system to disappear and other parts to remain?01:48
btb103georgy: thanks for trying, now when i run install it uses that x config i made and it goes automatically to powersave mode01:48
ihatetripeOh lordy, could someone please help me with this problem, it's driving me bonkers. ssh is not working in nautilus. I am getting the "Please select another viewer and try again." error. I have installed ssh-askpass-gnome and it still does not work01:48
case1hckrSid: sorry man, i have no idea01:48
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hckrSidcase1, thanks anyways.01:49
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Ktiowhat is equavalent ofr progdvb in linux ?01:49
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georgybtb103 : you can install it in text mode01:49
case1can someone suggest the best networking channels on here?01:49
case1looking for some help with flowscan01:50
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ihatetripeKtio, I use Kaffiene01:50
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btb103georgy: do you have a link describing how to do that?01:50
newbuntieany idea how parts of my filesystem could disappear after a tv card installation and how I could get them back?01:50
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Ktioihatetripe i use kaffeine too but bot satisfied, i want something like progdvb that uses plugins such as vPlugin01:51
newbuntieis there anyway to try to retrieve lost files?01:51
KtioI wonder why there are no good dvb viewers for linux :(01:51
ihatetripeKtio, I know what you mean. If you find a good one let me know :)01:52
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TGPOwhats a dvb?01:52
mortal5where does mplayer store its codecs, isn't it /usr/lib/win32?01:52
jadacyrusI can't write to my floppy disk. Its telling me its a read-only file system. How do I change the permissions so I can write to it again?01:52
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Ktiodvb=Digital Video broadcasting .. i.e. satellite cards01:52
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newbuntielet's ask a really simple question, can anyone see me type?01:53
TGPOjadacyrus add yourself to the group, its in user management01:53
jadacyrususer management..01:53
TGPOnewbuntie yes01:53
fatlipi cant find how to playback m4a on edgy... which library do i need from the repo for the aac codec?01:53
newbuntiegood, i guess01:54
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paoloa friend of mine has a problem with 6.10, if he plug his mp3 player ubuntu automount it with read onyl permission. Any idea?01:54
jadacyrusTGPO: what group do i have to add myself to?01:54
jadacyrusunder mount it says user=alex, thats me01:54
TGPOjada, let me look real quick01:54
jadacyrusstill wont let me write.01:54
georgybtb103 : no, but watch at google01:55
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kevuLjL: but if i chown it to root, then if i log in as kevu, will it get executed?01:55
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mortal5where does mplayer store its codecs, isn't it /usr/lib/win32?01:55
azurealwow! what did edgy do to my etc/fstab01:55
Linuturk_zZzhow can I force a fschk on the next reboot?01:55
azureali just noticede the horror01:55
paoloa friend of mine has a problem with 6.10, if he plug his mp3 player ubuntu automount it with read onyl permission. Any idea?01:55
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TGPOjada, I dont have the group for that ... not having a floppy drive01:55
jvaiwould sound recorder make a good stream ripper?01:55
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jadacyrusi mean, under my fstab it says rw01:56
baastrupmy boot lig gives me this error: Loading hardware drivers...                             error receiving uevent message: No buffer space available01:56
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TGPOjada can you go root and use it?01:56
azurealedgy randomly converted all my /dev/sda* !?01:57
LjLkevu: yes, since it'll get executed by root, at boot time, before you even log in01:57
jribmortal5: /usr/lib/codecs/ now or the corresponding in /usr/local, though win32 should still work01:57
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TGPOazureal, thats physical addressing your seeing, did the same thing to my sataII drives01:57
jadacyrusTGPO: nope.. :-(01:57
kevuLjL: oh ok makes sense now01:57
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LjL!info testdisk | newbuntie01:57
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ubotutestdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB01:57
jadacyrusi have an idea one sec01:57
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LjLnewbuntie: there are also other programs (type "apt-cache search undel"), but i'm afraid they only work on ext201:58
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azurealTGPO, why would you want that?  speed?01:58
AlReece45TGPO, that might have been the same card, but the drivers are different (the .sys files)01:58
case1anyone in here fam. w/ setting up flowscan?01:58
azurealTGPO, cause it's ugly as hell01:58
LjLkevu: make sure the script isn't buggy, since it's going to have root privileges.01:58
fatliplong island in the house!01:58
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case1anyone in here fam. w/ setting up flowscan?  I'm having a heck of a time setting it up and getting my round robin databases working (RRD).01:59
TGPOazureal, I have been trying to figure that out (and how to mount my other SATAII) for 3 weeks now, let me know if you find out why its using physical addressing01:59
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Linuturk_zZzTGPO, I'd like to know too azureal ;p01:59
Linuturk_zZzit does look nasty01:59
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azureali want to vomit02:00
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azureali opened it just now and almost died of shock02:00
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AlReece45icoo: i think remove the driver from ndiswrapper restart and try again, maybe i forgot to include something that needs to be loaded.02:00
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meherendoes anyone no how to set xdm to boot xfce not gnome?02:00
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icooAlReece45:  how do i remove it, I'm just downlaoding the Dell drivers that TGP0 sugested02:01
mortal5how can i check the codecs directory my mplayer was compiled with?02:01
LjLmeheren: i don't use xdm (i use kdm), but i suppose there is a "Session" menu02:01
baastrupdoes anyone know how to get rid of: hw_random: cannot enable RNG error02:01
LjLbaastrup: dunno, try something random02:02
ivxhey i am trying to use vsftpd to setup multiple ftp accounts that will all upload to different directories. does anyone know how to set that up in the config file?02:02
meherenLjL, xdm has no menu's on it's greeter02:02
AlReece45icoo, I believe sudo02:02
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AlReece45icoo, 'sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5' should do it02:02
TGPOazureal lets ask :)02:02
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TGPOcan anyone tell me why this is this way in /etc/fstab? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29636/02:03
icooAlReece45: did it, now I will wait for the dload to finish02:03
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LjLTGPO: what's wrong with it?02:03
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TGPOyou see the UUID?02:04
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azurealLjL, i agree w/ TGPO, it sucks02:04
AlReece45icoo: k02:04
azurealwell, at the least it's scary02:04
TGPOhow the heck do you determine that?02:04
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LjLTGPO, it's been done so that drives are referred to by an unique identifier, rather than by their device name (/dev/whatever), which changes depending on which slot you connect the drive to02:05
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azurealis this the only distro that's currently doing this?!02:05
LjLTGPO: this way, moving drives around should have less nasty effects02:05
LjLazureal: dunno02:06
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maxflaxAnyone having the knowledge of LIRC how to compile and such.. keep getting errors when doing the make02:06
TGPOLjL are you aware of any place where we can manually determine that? makes it impossible to add more drives02:06
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid"02:06
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fatliplong island in the house!02:06
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fatlippasted the wrong one lol02:06
shadowhywindis apt-get clean and autoclean safe to run?02:06
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meherenhow do a reconfigure a package?02:06
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fatlipi cant find how to playback m4a on edgy... which library do i need from the repo for the aac codec?02:06
fatlipthere we go02:06
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LjLmeheren: sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>02:07
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LjLshadowhywind: yes02:07
shadowhywindmy apt folder has 2.2 gbs, hehe02:07
meherenLjL, ah... all this time i've been doing sudo dpkg --configure <package>02:07
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meherenheh :p02:07
azurealblkid ll02:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about startx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:07
azurealwhat a horrible command =p02:07
GTXI swear Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop is so nice, shame it hardly has anything in its repo02:07
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LjLazureal: block (device) ID, i'd assume02:08
hangfire_anyone know how I can put the home folder icon on the desktop toolbar(panel)? I cant r-click on the icon02:08
ubotu1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.02:08
fatlipsorry, that stood out02:08
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TGPOLjL, it actually makes sense now .. thanks02:09
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Kannixhangfire_: right click on the bar.02:09
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icooAlReece45:  yes yes yes the Dell driver worked...drivers present, hardware installed...going to step 502:10
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hangfire_Kannix- and then what?02:10
jadacyrusi have a .IMG file, I can use the dd command to write its contents to a floppy, but I want to write its contents to a folder on my desktop, when I try of=/home/user/Desktop/folder , it just recreates the IMG file...isntead of the contents of it02:10
AlReece45icoo: odd, I tried the dell drivers first and they hated me ;P02:10
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icooAlReece45:  damn those idiots at Broadcom for not puting out Linux drivers...well let's go to step 502:11
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phaedrus44what is a good gui ftp client?02:11
TGPOicoo glad that got you going02:11
pinkyicoo: Yeah I have a Broadcom wireless card =[02:11
meherenanyone have an idea of how to set up xdm to use xfce instead of gnome?02:11
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maxflaxNot one that has compiled drivers for IR remote and VFD display. how strange..02:11
elyezersomeone can help me to install anjuta 2.0.2?02:11
georgyphaedrus44, : gftp02:11
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elyezerand need to install printer epson lx-30002:11
PR006phaedrus44, take your browser02:11
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kronomanHello! I have now two hard disk, both with a swap partition.  Can I use both swaps at the same time ?02:12
PR006phaedrus44, konqueror or epiphany02:12
AlReece45icoo: oh btw, if you get them installed, upgrading to 1.28 is very simple, just sudo make, sudo make uninstall, sudo make install, and then the connections % is actually not 100%02:12
LjLkronoman: yes02:12
PR006kronoman, yes, jou can02:12
TGPOkronoman yes02:12
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Kannixhangfire_: +add to panel02:12
LjLkronoman: you should set both swap partitions to the same priority in /etc/fstab, so that they will be load balanced02:12
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!02:12
PR006kronoman, its, the question, if it makes sense02:12
Kannixhangfire_: custom application launcher02:13
LjLPR006: most definitely does02:13
nikinwhat are the base packages you need to run X ?02:13
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Kannixhangfire_: "nautilus" is the application02:13
VonGuardi have installed and gotten xmame working on Dapper. But now, when i hit escape to quit out while running a game, gnome crashes out02:13
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VonGuardspits me back to login02:13
nikini have installed xserver-xorg-core02:13
VonGuardany ideas?02:13
elyezerhow i install anjuta2.0.2??02:13
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hangfire_Thanks Kannix , thats what I need to know02:13
TGPOnikin did you also install xorg?02:13
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phaedrus44gftp doesnt run on my ubuntu install02:13
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nikinthere was no such package02:13
aoupinikin: do you want the entire desktop like gnome and stuff? in that case install ubuntu-desktop02:14
VonGuardi can't for the life of me think of why gxmame would cause gnome to quit02:14
nikinnono.. just X and windowmaker02:14
VonGuardit runs the games fine02:14
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VonGuardjust, when in hit escape it logs me out02:14
Chippyhey, how would I add entries to my gnome menu?  I installed a program manually, but I want to add it to the menu...02:14
TGPOnikin ???? was there the other day ... you need xorg02:14
VonGuardnevermind the joystick issues i'm having02:14
icooAlReece45:  got it, I see the card in networking...what now?02:14
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nikinRGPO: i tryed apt-get install xorg .. and it didnt find the package02:14
LjLChippy: right click02:15
TGPOnikin, there is a way that "MIGHT" work02:15
LjLChippy: at least i think. or there should be a menu editor somewhere in the menu itself.02:15
PR006bye all - happy computing ;-)02:15
TGPOnikin, and I wont say that it wont break you02:15
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nikinTGPO: tell it02:15
HaroldJohnsonHello everyone02:15
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georgynikin : x-window-system-core02:16
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kronomanthanks for the swap tip, I don't know if it makes sense to have both, but well, since I don't want to repartion the old drive, I could use both just for the sake of it02:16
HaroldJohnsonI'm trying to figure out why my wireless networking02:16
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HaroldJohnsonAnyone: Know how to troubleshoot wireless?02:16
VonGuardso, no one has any mame experience?02:16
TGPOnikin, however edit your sources.list to include http://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib02:16
LjLUbotu, please tell HaroldJohnson about wifi02:16
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TGPOnikin update and install it from there02:16
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:16
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ianmacgregorTGPO: It02:17
nikinTGPO: will see if georgy-s answer doesnt work02:17
D00B3YBuffer I/O error on device hda... any ideas?!!02:17
iratsudo i want to use bluetooth-gnome or bluez-utils for bluetooth?02:17
ianmacgregorTGPO: It's not a good idea to be installing debian packages in Ubuntu02:17
LjLTGPO: ouch, that *will* not might break things02:17
ChippyLjL: there is, but that doesn't let me add custom stuff, only let's me add things that it then installs via apt-get02:17
AlReece45icoo, try installing network-manager-gnome, its pretty good02:17
TGPOI'v pulled it off once or twice, but like I said its a haorrible idea02:17
AlReece45icoo, i'll brb again02:17
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LjLTGPO, one thing is installing a single Debian package using dpkg - which, as ianmacgregor said, is still dangerous -- an entirely different thing is putting the whole Debian repository into sources.list. at the first apt-get command, all sorts of weird stuff will get installed02:18
D00B3YBuffer I/O error on device hda... any ideas?!!02:18
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AlReece45icoo, i guess taht didn't d/c me02:19
georgyD00B3Y, : run fsck to repair it02:19
TGPOLjL, like I said, its a hail mary go for broke02:19
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D00B3Yit's when I boot the live CD though, can't run fsck when linux is running02:19
icooAlReece45:  got it, I see the card in networking...what now?02:19
icooAlReece45:  sorry02:20
nikinLjL: it is still good for a befora-the-last-option thing.. the last option is to get a pickaxe and smash the whole thing in to molecules02:20
KannixIs anyone using edgy in the AMD64 version? I am experiencing graphics problems on bootup. The ubuntu-logo is b/w and the throbber is screwed up. Everything is fine once gdm kicks in, though.02:20
icooAlReece45:  well I installed network-manager-gnome...but where is the damn thing02:20
TIger_ITD00B3Y: have U used hdparm reciently ?02:20
D00B3YI dont even know what it is..02:20
TGPOkannix, got the same problem ... top end nvidia card?02:20
KannixTGPO: Yep. 7900.02:20
D00B3Yhow do I check what device is hdc?02:20
TIger_ITD00B3Y: ahh...02:20
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icooAlReece45:  I can't find any icon for it02:21
LjLnikin: alright, anyway, if you do that, make *very* sure that apt-get will *only* install the stuff you want from the Debian reps, and if you see anything like "libc" mentioned, DON'T go for it. and when you're finished installing, remove the Debian repository from your sources.list, and issue a sudo apt-get update02:21
TGPOKannix cause it doesnt know what the card is02:21
TIger_ITD00B3Y:  is the CD-ROM02:21
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D00B3Ywhat's wrong with it?02:21
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TGPOKannix it doesnt know my 7950 either02:21
D00B3Ywell I know it's fucked up.. but can I do anything to fix it?02:21
KannixTGPO: But isn't it using framebuffer in VESA mode anyhow?02:21
nikinLjL: be sure i will try everything before doing that :D02:21
AlReece45icoo, it should start automatically on your next login, but running 'nm-applet --sm-disable' should open it02:21
LjL!language | D00B3Y02:21
ubotuD00B3Y: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:21
Chippyhey, how would I add entries to my gnome menu?  I installed a program manually, but I want to add it to the menu...02:21
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TIger_ITD00B3Y:  sudo hdparm -i /dev/hdc02:21
D00B3Ywhat does it to?02:22
mortal5has anyone gotten ubuntu 6.10 working with their pvr card yet?02:22
TIger_ITD00B3Y:  in private02:22
D00B3YLjL: sorry?02:22
KannixTGPO: Because both, the "nv" and the closed source "nvidia" drivers for Xorg work fine.02:22
LjLD00B3Y: what?02:22
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TGPOKannix hmm02:22
TIger_ITD00B3Y:  is to know... if somethig is wrong02:22
LjLD00B3Y: see what you said above02:22
D00B3Yoh ok02:22
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D00B3YI apoligized..02:22
KannixTGPO: And it works fine with the same hardware, using ubuntu x38602:22
mcquaidI used to use qjoypad and now I can't compile it in edgy, is there an alternative?02:22
jribChippy: applications > accessories > menu layout02:23
nikindo the files of the repo have anything like a checksum?02:23
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LjLnikin: more than that -- they're signed using PGP keys02:23
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kevinanybody know why amarok is updating to 1.4.4? i added the repos and keys...02:23
KannixTGPO: Maybe a bug in the frambuffer driver that only shows in 64bit mode?02:23
mcquaidor I have g++ 4.1 installed, maybe it needs 3.3?  Btw, 4.1 doesn't make a sym link to /usr/bin/g++ which I found strange02:23
TGPOkannix mebbe is just a x64 glitch. I was blaming it on un ID'd hardware02:23
Chippyjrib: no such entry?02:23
jribChippy: what version of ubuntu?02:23
Chippyjrib: edgy02:23
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maxflaxwhy have they removed devfs_fs_kernel.h from kernel... I need that to compile some drivers.. damn02:24
jribChippy: strange, can you right click on the top menu (the ubuntu icon) and select "edit menu"?02:24
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Chippyjrib: ah, that works.  thanks :)02:25
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LjL(which was the first thing i said 10 minutes ago anyway)02:25
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TGPOis it working Icoo?02:25
Kannixok, another question. The wifi-wiki says to install network-manager to enable and configure WPA WLAN. However, I cannot find any applet or application "network-manager" after installation. Has anyone ever gotten the network-manager to work under 6.10?02:26
georgynikin, : and02:26
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Icoook I logged back in and network manager showed up he is saying something about a wired connection, when I type eth1.(my wireless net) I only see disconnected02:26
Skallegood day (or night)02:26
IcooTGP0 got the driver working...but how to connect with it02:26
nikingeorgy: i ame downloading.... 19 minutes left... the repos are slow tonight02:26
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georgynikin : ok02:27
Xaiceim looking for a scp client fpr gnome02:27
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SkalleIs anyone available to help me with some iptables/NAT problem?02:27
IcooTGP0 look up my message up there02:27
LathiatXaice: you can open "sftp://user@host/" URLs in nautilus02:27
TGPOicoo have you been into your iwconfig and set it up there?02:27
jvaiicoo, nm is kida slooow... i go thru that when goin from & to wired - wireless02:27
sidewalkwhat has happened to xinetd in edgy ?02:27
sidewalkhow do i get swat running?02:27
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jvaiu have to play w/ it02:27
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Icooiwconfig says it's a 802.11g connection, 54 Mb/s seems ok02:28
TGPOicoo and all of its other info is correct?02:29
SkalleI'm having problems redirecting all the udp and tcp traffic of a certain port that comes in through the router, to a certain computer on the network02:29
azurealIcoo, did you setup correct ESSID?02:29
Shadow_milgrrr!  how do I make my GTK fonts bigger!?!02:29
TGPOicoo and key02:29
IcooI just did a iwlist eth1 scan and found my network02:29
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jvaiit should show up in the notification area icoo, a round blue circle for network manager, right clik it to toggle02:29
Icoohow do i connect02:29
sethkSkalle, where are you doing the redirect?02:30
Skallewhat do you mean?02:30
TGPOare you hardlined also Icoo?02:30
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SkalleI am doing it on the computer in the network which I want to forward the activity to02:30
sethkSkalle, in a router, are you using your ubuntu box as a router, what are you redirecting?02:30
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Icoonope I disabled the wired network02:31
SkalleA windows box is the "king" of the router02:31
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sethkSkalle, ok.  let's get a bit more specific.02:31
sethkSkalle, what traffic is to be redirected?02:31
IcooI will try to restart the laptop, mybe this works02:31
SkalleAnd I want the traffic of a certain port (13871) to go to my ubuntu box02:31
botxjOMG, the new Edgy is kinda kool looking02:31
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botxjit's got new nifty little features02:31
reversebladeHello, when I resume from hibernate, my display becomes little broken with beryl. I can fix this thing by manually reloading the window manager. Is there a smarter way ?02:31
botxji LOVE THAT!02:32
sethkSkalle, ok, but where is the traffic coming from02:32
karimdapper update to edgy is going very very bad here02:32
Skallefrom the internet02:32
sethkSkalle, you can't redirect traffic at the receiver, obviously02:32
karimI can't run X02:32
sethkSkalle, well, ok, but I assume there is something between your ubuntu box and the internet  :)02:32
SkalleI used to be able to do that when I ran windows on this boc02:32
karimapt-get and aptitude are doing non-sens and insane things02:32
jmdcmy /etc/network/interfaces file doesn't have eth0 set to come up automatically, but it does anyway. Any ideas why?02:32
botxjedgy is awesome!02:32
SkalleHow do you mean? I am behind a router02:32
karimubuntu have gone very bad02:32
Xenguykarim: /. will confirm your experience =)02:33
sethkSkalle, ok, so the router sends the traffic where?02:33
karimXenguy: who ?02:33
jmdckarim: is a fresh install an option?02:33
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Xenguykarim: slashdot - apparently fresh installs fare better than online 'upgrades' :-/02:33
karimjmdc: I am seriously considering it02:33
LjLreverseblade: xgl support in #ubuntu-xgl - anyway, i'd try perhaps looking at the /etc/acpi/resume.sh script or whateverit'scalled and add a command to restart the WM02:33
Skallethe router sends the traffic to the "king" of the network, I.e. the first computer connected to the router I believe02:33
Icoonope restarted the PC but still nothing, but I can see my network when i do iwlist eth1 scan02:33
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Icoomaybe i should change eth1 to wlan0 to make NM work02:34
benkong2why do I not get the option to shutdown in gnome edgy? I only get logoff, hibernate, suspend and switch user02:34
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sethkSkalle, that's unlikely.  the router wouldn't be sending all traffic to the same machine.02:34
Xenguykarim: which, if true, is a damn shame02:34
SkalleI don't totally understand this, I'm sorry02:34
Psi-JackHeya. I'm using Ubuntu-server 6.10. What does it used to set services to start/no-start at init?02:34
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reversebladeLjL: I thought that. but how to restart WM by command line ?02:34
SkalleBut I'll try to explain02:34
sethkSkalle, ok02:35
LjLreverseblade: dunno... how do you restart it by hand?02:35
benkong2Psi-Jack: look at update-rc.d02:35
SkalleI want some activity (tcp and udp) of a certain port to go unconditionally to this box on the network02:35
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Psi-JackAha! update-rc.d, that's what I was looking for.02:35
benkong2or use the services on the system menu02:35
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SkalleDo you have any idea what to do?02:35
karimXenguy: I don't have much to lose on this box configuration wise02:36
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karimbut I must burn a cd02:36
karimfor edgy02:36
sethkSkalle, yes, but you have to do it at the router02:36
Psi-JackThere. Much better. Wanted to get rid of bind, for now, from startup, while I migrate to maradns. heh02:36
karimand I will need to do it from command line02:36
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Xenguykarim: if it is a fresh install, that might be easiest from what I've read02:36
karimkarim: edgy the shaky shake02:36
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SkalleAt the router? At the box that is connected first to the router, or the router itself somehow?02:37
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karimthe punt doesn't work ...02:37
sethkSkalle, the router itself02:37
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SkalleThank you for your time, I'll try that02:37
Xenguykarim: a better name, yes :-)02:37
Xenguykarim: or, maybe not ;-)02:37
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jvaigott, is every1 on edgy in here!!?02:38
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DigitalNinjaWhere do I get the beta nvidia driver from?02:39
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byteshackdoes Edgy support Beryl?02:39
DigitalNinjaI'm on the nvidia website and I don't see the beta driver02:39
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LjLUbotu, please tell byteshack about beryl02:39
Xenguyjvai: I doubt it02:39
maxflaxwhat is devfs and what is udev.. and why has udev replacd devfs?02:39
jvailol... yep.. this is the bleeding edgy channel02:40
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KannixHow can I check, if network-manager is actually running?02:40
botxji love edgy02:40
botxjwhat tha02:41
LjLbotxj, we're happy that you love edgy, but would you stop spamming and using caps? ;-)02:41
jvaibotxj it shoulds show up in the notification area like gaim does02:41
botxji'm sorry LjL but Xchat has a new feature now02:41
jribif I get an intel core 2 duo can I install the 32bit version of ubuntu?02:41
kevinjrib: it goes boom!02:41
jribkevin: D:02:41
botxjmy xchat now doesnt show my name on lines that i post where nobody has posted before on IRC02:41
botxjthat is why i spam OMG 2 times02:41
karimcould anyone give me a link to a edgy iso for athlon K7 ? my X is broken02:41
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botxjomg, i wonder what else has been changed02:42
LjL!info links2 | karim02:42
ubotulinks2: Web browser running in both graphics and text mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1pre23-1 (edgy), package size 2009 kB, installed size 3224 kB02:42
Xenguykarim: apt-get install elinks02:42
DigitalNinjaI'm on amd 64. Do I need the amd 64 nvidia driver?02:42
LjLkarim: http://ftp.crihan.fr/releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso02:43
DigitalNinjaamd 64 process or on 32 bit ubuntu02:43
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KannixDigitalNinja: It depends on the distribution, not the CPU.02:43
mabushow do i unrar files of multiple parts?02:43
jribmabus: unrar the first one and it should continue02:44
cmcraeI have the Ensoniq audioPCA (Alsa mixer) up and running. the only way I am getting sound is if the ICE958 2 is Checked. and the sound is staticy..... Any reasons why?02:44
DigitalNinjaKannix: I see. So I just use the 32 bit version then?02:44
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LjLmabus, if i recally correctly, you should be able to just type "unrar filename.rar", if you have all the various parts in the same directory as the file that actually has a .rar extension02:44
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aoupimabus: unrar e file.rar02:45
KannixDigitalNinja: If you have the 32-bit ubuntu, yes. You get the 32bit driver.02:45
jvaii cant wait for vvista to come out, to see how it compares to dapper02:45
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karimhalleluia !!!02:45
karimI got video02:45
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sethkkarim, big deal, I got a tv set.  :)02:45
mabusI tried to install -e on part01.rar, but it said "could not extract" for all of the files02:46
sethkkarim, 12 inches, black and white.  :)02:46
phireI've got 2 screens set up, with out Xinerama. How do I open a program up on the other window?02:46
DigitalNinjaKannix: Thanks!02:46
jribmabus: I just do 'unrar x part01.rar', does that fail too for you?02:46
dougskomabus: rar e file.rar0 (or whatever the first number is)02:46
LjLsethk: cool, but i've got a 4" b/w one with only a knob for tuning, which can run out of 10 1.5V batteries02:46
sethkphire, if they are separate x displays, one is   :0.0, and the other is :0.102:46
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sethkLjL, I give, beats me.  :)02:47
dougskoheh heh...knob...02:47
cmcraeI have the Ensoniq audioPCA (Alsa mixer) up and running. the only way I am getting sound is if the ICE958 2 is Checked. and the sound is staticy..... Any reasons why?02:47
phireSethk, I've tried firefox --display=:0.0 and 0.1 they both pop up on the main screen02:48
KannixSo, can anyone help me sort this network manager thing out? How do I start and use it? I see not application and/or applet to run. I have the packages installed and I can see a background process "nm-applet --sm-disable" under top.02:48
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mjbjrso, who here is running 6.10 and checked the MD5SUM of the iso?02:48
sethkphire, not that way.  do:    export DISPLAY=:0.102:48
sethkphire, then try running firefox02:48
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Psi-JackHmm, Is there any deb's for dbmail 2.1 for Ubuntu?02:49
sethkphire, not all programs pay attention to the -d (it's supposed to be either -d, or --display, I believe)02:49
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jvaikannix, maybe "network manager" in terminal/02:49
KannixWhere is "GNOME's notification area"?02:49
Kannixjvai: I tried that. No results.02:49
phirethanks sethk02:49
sethkKannix, try  network-manager02:49
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LjLKannix: the system tray02:49
sethkKannix, with the dash02:49
^Ocean^is there a quick easy way to unload all my sound drivers ?02:49
cmcraeI have the Ensoniq audioPCA (Alsa mixer) up and running. the only way I am getting sound is if the ICE958 2 is Checked. and the sound is staticy..... Any reasons why?02:50
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neonempyrUbuntu compatible digital voice recorder anyone?02:50
sethk^Ocean^, unplug the machine.  that unloads _all_ the drivers  :)02:50
Kannixsethk: There is no such application. THe only thing starting with "network" is "network-admin" which starts the regular admin tool.02:50
jvaikannix if that works in terminal u should see a blue circle02:50
^Ocean^but theres no like rmmod todo it ?02:50
LjLneonempyr: most USB mp3 readers02:50
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j1mchi all - can anyone recommend a good pcmcia wireless card?  i'm running xubuntu on a thinkpad t22.02:50
^Ocean^like remove the module and all the modules depending on it ?02:50
jvaikannix did u dl it from the repos? it's not in by default02:50
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sethkKannix, if it starts the admin tool, then it can't be true that there is no such application.  I guess I'm confused, I thought you wanted to start the network admin dialog.02:51
Kannixjvai: Yep, I downloaded and installed it.02:51
neonempyrLjL: what do you mean by mp3 readers?02:51
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LjLneonempyr: mp3 players i meant. the USB-key kind.02:51
Kannixsethk: No, the network-manager tool to finally get my WLAN working on my notebook.02:51
greenmani got a message when i installed the package for nfs that i have new mail in /var/mail/michael02:51
greenmanhow do i read that?02:51
neonempyrLjL: There are usb-key mp3 players that record voice? I'm looking for something like a 12-hour02:52
sethkKannix, you can use     find     to search the file system(s) for it02:52
Kannixjvai: Maybe it is because I deleted all but one toolbar and crammed everything in there?02:52
georgygreenman,  : cat /var/mail/michael02:52
sethkKannix, or use locate, if updatedb has been run since you installed.02:52
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jvainoooo! lol...02:52
greenmangeorgy, okay, but shouldn't i have some mail program?02:52
Falstiu1LjL, my 1G mp3 player will record over 30 hours of voice (with some conversative recording settings)02:52
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LjLneonempyr: well, yeah, i think a lot of them do. mine does. about how many hours, i'd have to make a fwe calculations, but if you set the rate low enough...02:53
Kannixsethk: There is a nm-applet which according to manpage is the network-manager applet, and it is also running when I look at "ps aux"02:53
georgygreenman, : it's just a log message02:53
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LjLneonempyr: well, see Falstiu102:53
jvaioooh kannix, right clik on the panel then add to panel, see if it shows up thru there02:53
Kannixsethk: However, I cannot get any frontend to operate.02:53
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Falstiu1neonempyr: I have an iRiver 790.  It is nice in most ways (1G flash)02:53
Kannixjvai: Only network monitor, not network manager.02:53
neonempyrFalstiul: good battery life on that?02:54
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cmcraedoes anyone know anything about sound cards02:54
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sethkKannix, I haven't used that applet, so I'm guessing here, but sometimes the front end won't start if the back end is already running.  Have you tried killing the nm-applet and then running one of the front end tools?  see if it starts the applet in the background and communicates with it?  As I said, may or may not apply to this applet.02:54
greenmangeorgy: well there appears to be spam in there too02:54
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Falstiu1neonempyr: 1 AAA battery, supposedly lasts 19 hours.  It 'feels' good.  A fresh battery can record for many hours on end.  I used it recently to record some family history that my aunt was relating.02:55
puffARgh, darnit... I'm now running into the alsa problem with rhythmbox and gtkpod, I thought I fixed that a few weeks ago.02:55
aoupidoes anyone here use kasablanca (the ftp client)02:55
shivI have grub installed I want to switch to lilo. I dual boot with windows and have only 1 HDD. How do I proceed to remove grub and install LILO02:55
Kannixsethk: Well, what is the frontend tool to the nm-applet background? I'd be glad to know :)02:55
sethkgreenman, almost certainly you have the mail or mailx program, which is a console mail reading program.02:55
jvaikannix "add to panel" then "add custom app"02:55
neonempyrFalstiu1: sounds good. have any idea of the bitrate on those recordings and how they sound to you as far as quality and mic sensitivity?02:55
greenmansethk: nope.  i tried both of them02:55
Kannixjvai: Ok, which custom app is it?02:55
sethkKannix, How can you say you have tried starting front ends for it, if you don't know what the front ends are?02:55
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jvaior this might work sudo network-manager02:56
sethkgreenman, then apt-get install one.  should take less than two minutes.02:56
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greenmanmail or mailx?02:56
jvainatwork-manager type that in02:56
i_love_beerI can't get ubuntu to load even in safe graphics02:56
sethkgreenman, or, of course, you can install one of te fancy mail readers.  there are literally dozens of available mail readers02:56
Kannixsethk: I have not said I tried frontends. I said I tried to get the whole thing to run as mentioned in the wifi-wiki. But that ain't working!02:56
Falstiu1neonempyr: you can set the recording quality (sample rate, bitrate, mic gain) ... it is 'pretty good' with the built in mic and there is a line-in jack.02:56
sethkgreenman, let me check02:56
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tritiumgreenman: evolution is installed by default02:56
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Kannixsethk: The wiki says, it should start automatically after relogging.02:56
neonempyrFalstiu1: thanks a lot mate, you've just ended my quest. :)02:56
greenmantritium: i'm not local to the machine02:56
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sethkgreenman, sudo apt-get install mailx02:57
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Falstiu1neonempyr: I'm not an audiophile though.  For simple voice it is great ... it even has an auto-detect.02:57
greenmansethk: thanks02:57
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jvaisnaaap.. kannix, do u even have a notification bar on your panel?02:57
Kannixjvai: What is a notification bar and how do I install it? :)02:57
neonempyrFalstiu1: yep, not looking for broadcast quality or anything, just for memos and lectures.02:57
sethkKannix, wiki may be a bit out of date.  I've only done the command line stuff with wireless, maybe somebody else has more experience with the applet than I do.02:57
Kannixjvai: I am not aware of any notification bar.02:58
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jvaiwell, when u redid your panel u may have removed it kannix02:58
Falstiu1neonempyr: oh, 1 caviat.  The firmware that comes on it doesn't act like a USB hard drive.  There is an official version of the firmware that does, but it was difficult to find.02:58
shivI have grub installed I want to switch to lilo. I dual boot with windows and have only 1 HDD. How do I proceed to remove grub and install LILO02:58
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Kannixand jvai, there is no tool such as "network-manager": no such file or directory.02:58
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aoupiis there any graphical ftp client that supports SSL/TLS besides gftp and kasablanca?02:58
jvaithat's why network manager may not show up02:58
neonempyrfalstiu1: do you know if there is an updated model with the same features that they are selling?02:58
Kannixjvai: I might well have done that. how do I get it back?02:58
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jvaiadd tro panel kannix02:59
jvai"add to panel02:59
Falstiu1neonempyr: not by name ... I haven't looked much since I got mine 3 years ago.02:59
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DigitalNinjaWhen building a new kernel do I need to build a new initrd?02:59
donfilipoi managed my Edgy to play media with probably all codecs and only one trouble remains...i can not manage to convince my firefox (2.0) to start real media (ram files) with kaffeine plugin wich i think works the best if streams are avi, wmv,asf...etc. and even if i give him a link  of ram (real media)...but as you now some times the links to source of stream is unpossible to copy ...and it is not comfortable....anyone knows where the f... is the02:59
donfilipo setting in firefox wich tells him to open my ram (real media) streams with something white not working at all?????02:59
neonempyrfalstiu1: Do you remember where you got that update?02:59
Kannixjvai: Ahhh! There is a network connection thingy now.02:59
Kannixjvai: Thank GOD.02:59
jvaiunder utilities @ kannix02:59
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ivxhey easy question, i know install is sudo apt-get install x, would would uninstall be?03:00
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jvaii'm good for sumthin.. the 1st person ive helped in here!!!!03:00
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Kannixjvai: Yeah, I found it.03:00
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Kannixjvai: So I cannot use WPA wlan without notification bar switched on? That inhales!03:00
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greenmanwell crap.  i somehow deleted the status message.03:01
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greenmani installed nfs-kernel-server and it didn't start.  how do i start the nfs server03:01
laptop_anyone know the where automatix2 installs the firefox java runtime plugin?03:01
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:02
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LocoMancan anyone help me get the altgr key working?03:02
georgygreenman sudo /etc/init.d/nfs start03:02
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jmdcivx: apt-get remove X03:02
sethkdonfilipo, in preferences, downloads, view & edit actions03:02
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ivxjmdc ahh alright thank you03:02
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greenmanokay, looks like it won't start wihtout exports .  i'll set one up03:03
Kannixjvai: Well, thanks for your patience and your help anyhow!03:03
lostatcIs there a tool or way to "Create" MP3s? I have an MP3 player and cannot use OGG?03:03
donfiliposethk wait my firefox is another lingo i must look...will be back03:03
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sethkdonfilipo, ok03:03
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oblibCan anyone tell me what package is needed for 'glx' to be enabled with an nvidia driver?03:03
jmdcivx: use the --purge option to delete all associated configuration files as well03:03
LjL!automatix | esaym03:03
ubotuesaym: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.03:03
CadteachI'm having trouble with audio on an iMac.03:04
prophetdoes SAMBA have  a GUI03:04
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shuanis there any way i can watch a shockwave movie? i have firefox 2?03:04
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kevinubotu... really? is there an alternative?03:04
Falstiu1neonempyr: you can get the UMS (the mass storage firmare) here http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/ums.aspx   .... the new T30 (the updated version of the ifp-790 I have) doesn't have a UMS version though.03:04
iratsucan anyone help me connect to my cellphone via bluetooth?03:04
shuani tried to download shockwave plugin but it says its not available for linux03:04
greenmani always get the ln wrong.  what comes first where you are linking to, or where you are linking from?03:04
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ivxjmdc so do apt-get remove --purge x03:04
tritiumkevin: ubotu is a bot03:04
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oblibgreenman,, I believe it is "from" just like cp or mv03:05
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Natural_Highdoes anyone remember the name of that plugin for xmms hotkeys?03:05
LjLtritium: and kevin's not even that03:05
georgygreeman : from03:05
Natural_HighI used to have it, but cannot for the life of me remember what it's claled03:05
Psi-JackHmmm. Is there not a libsieve or libsieve-dev package for Ubuntu?03:05
__mikemKeven, ubotu is an irc bot03:05
shuanany 1 know how i can get a shockwave plugin for firefox 2?03:05
jmdcgreenman: you can use man to look up a command's manual page as well03:05
neonempyrFalstiu1: is there a list of their devices that are UMS compatible? I don't see one03:05
oblibIs there a way to repair a package without uninstalling it?03:06
jmdcivx: you're correct.03:06
rummikdoes anyone else get a garbled screen when they go to a console through ctrl+alt+f*?03:06
Natural_Highshuan: have you tried the macromedia website?03:06
esaymoh hmm. well waht is a replacement for automatix? easyubuntu?03:06
ivxjmdc thank you sir03:06
greenmanjmdc: i did. :) it's confusing.  and i think i did it wrong.  :)  (too many levels of symbolic links)03:06
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tritiumesaym: yes03:06
ivxjmdc or ma'am03:06
jribshuan: installing firefox through wine is the only way I knwo of.  Adobe does not have a native shockwave plugin for linux03:06
LjLesaym: the best replacement is reading the documentation, but yes03:06
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donfiliposethk can not find can you tell me in wich colomn are preferences File Edit View History.... are my columns if i translate it back03:06
Kannixjvai: since you are such a nice person and patient helper :) Do you know how I can replace the ubuntu-start-button (and only that one!) in the "Human" theme with the regular gnome paw?03:06
esaymi never could get it easyubuntu installed03:06
sethkdonfilipo, ok, one minute03:07
Jeshua(Been ages.) If anyone has the time, is it possible to edit the "Session" Menu on the Login Screen? Thanks in advance.03:07
jmdcivx hahaha03:07
Falstiu1neonempyr: that link lists UMS versions of the firmware that are available.  Even without the UMS firmware, there is an opensource utility that lets you use the dev with linux.  It is a little annoying though.03:07
LocoMancan anyone help me to get the altgr key working?03:07
Kannixjvai: I do not want to change the whole theme, just that one icon.03:07
greenmanah ha03:07
greenmangot it03:07
greenmanthanks guys03:07
ScrapeI'm using Xubuntu; how do I get the linux-wlan-ng drivers to load automatically instead of the hostap_cs driver? (Normally orinoco_cs gets loaded; I blacklisted that in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, but now it loads hostap!)03:07
neonempyrFalstiu1: looks like iRiver now suppors T series UMS: http://www.mtp-ums.net/03:07
georgygreenman,  ; no pb03:07
jvaiwait... i emailed the link bfore i installed dapper from hoary, lemme look it up03:07
Psi-JackHEYA: is there an ubuntu equivalent package to debian's libsieve2-dev?03:07
sethkdonfilipo, on the menu, you do:     edit/preferences03:07
sethkdonfilipo, that opens a dialog with 5 or 6 sections at the top:  general, privacy, content, *, downloads, advance03:08
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sethkdonfilipo, the * and the "5 or 6" is because it depends on what extensions you have installed (if any)03:08
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georgynikin,: some news ?03:08
donfiliposethk yes i have in my lingo it's Urejanje Nastavitve03:08
sethkdonfilipo, in any event, go to the "downloads" section.  It should be the last button, just above help.03:09
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Falstiu1neonempyr: cool.  I wish I had an excuse to buy a new one :)  They're about half as much now.03:09
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sethkdonfilipo, can't help with the language, if it isn't english or spanish I'm pretty useless :)03:09
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neonempyrfalstiu1: yep. thanks again mate, night03:09
Falstiu1neonempyr: np.03:10
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donfiliposethk i have it it's vrste datotek in my lingo...i was there before but....something is wrong03:10
rummikanyone know why i get a garbled screen on the tty's?03:10
jvaikannix u want the gone foot back dont u?  well, i pulled this bfore i upgraded  More options  Oct 2403:10
elyezersomeone programming c++ on anjuta ide???03:10
jvaikannix bookmark that03:11
CadteachAnyone with experience installing on a mac?03:11
Kannixjvai: Thanks. I'll look at it now :)03:11
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ivxdoes anyone know if pureftpd is as secure as they say?03:11
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ScrapeOr, why do I get repeated TX timeouts with my prism2 card using orinoco_cs? It seems to occur especially when I try to print via CUPS, such that I can't actually print. I'm 99% sure it's the network card... I can use the internet, but as soon as I try to print to my print server, I see tons of timeouts and NETDEV resets.03:11
iterivx: proftpd is good03:11
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donfiliposethk there i have 4 sorts of endings which i can edit but can not ad a new one....is that only in my lingo version??? probalby a bug or is there a trick????03:12
elyezersomeone help me with anjuta IDE?03:12
ivxiter and i have multiple accounts, each one link to a different directory03:12
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ZambeziI just installed a harddrive, but when I tried to format it I got an errormessage. How can I check for sure it's proper connected more than dmesg?03:12
sethkdonfilipo, let me look03:12
ivxiter *can i03:12
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iterivx: yes of course03:12
elyezeri need to compile c++ on it but i didn't. because library iostream is show problems03:13
Psi-JackIs there an ubuntu equivalent package to debian's libsieve2-dev?03:13
sethkdonfilipo, I'll see if I can discover how to add one.03:13
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Psi-JackI'm trying to get dbmail 2.1.7 to work on my ubunti-server, with sieve support.03:13
mortal5j1mc, get one with the atheros chipset03:13
sethkelyezer, I downloaded and installed the gcc source tarball, and anjuta is happy.  but most people think that's a terrible idea.03:13
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ivxiter well i tried vsftpd and can't figure out how to make it to that... would you say proftp is better than pureftpd03:14
donfiliposethk *.SPL, *.FLI, *.QTL, *.SQL are my endings wich are there but avi, wmv work fine not being there?03:14
JeshuaAnybody? I'm just curious about editing my session menu on my login screen.03:14
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jvaikannix in the ubuntu forums there was another menu theme w/ a niice gmone foot, but u gotta look for it in the posted desktop section, then read it03:14
sethkdonfilipo, there is also a mapping that is part of gnome (or kde, whichever you are running) and not specific to firefox.03:14
sethkdonfilipo, you get to it from the kde control center.  gnome should have something similar.03:14
greenmanI'm trying to mount an exported fs, i get this:  NFS Portmap: RPC: Program not registered03:15
greenmanwhat does that mean?03:15
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donfiliposethk aha i will look03:15
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mikeconceptswhat is falcon?03:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about falcon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:16
elyezersethk, but when i include a library like iostrem show many errors03:16
Natural_Highhey, can someone help me with an xmms plugin problem?03:17
elyezersethk, i need to download the libraries for c++?03:17
georgygreenman,  : http://www-oss.fnal.gov/projects/fermilinux/common/faq/old/0021.html03:17
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ScrapeHow do I prevent one network card driver from being loaded in place of another? Blacklisting hostap doesn't seem to work.03:17
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sethkelyezer, I think you need the header files.  you already have the libs, probably03:18
ivxhow do you stop a program from the terminal03:18
LjLivx: ctrl+c03:18
sethkelyezer, look for packages with gcc and dev in the name03:18
sethkivx, killall  programname03:18
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jvaiback.. the wifi went out in here03:18
jvaiit's too many ppl in this place i'm @03:19
elyezersethk, i don't understand03:19
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iterivx: haven't used pureftpd but either should work03:19
slinky_i have a problem opening a program from a right click menu03:19
greenmangeorgy: so if I'm reading that right, then i have to change hosts.allow on the exporting machine?03:19
elyezersethk, i've downloaded g++ yet03:19
sethkelyezer, I know03:19
iterivx: pureftpd claims to work w/no config, so I don't know if that matters to you03:19
sethkelyezer, there are separate packages, sometimes, for the libraries.  plus...03:19
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georgygreenman, : added the host(s)03:20
sethkelyezer, executing programs only need the .so files, but to build you also need the headers (iostream, used to be called iostream.h, etc.)03:20
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elyezersethk, need dev package too?03:20
sethkelyezer, right, to get the headers03:20
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sethkelyezer, also probably to get debug versions of certain libraries, that sort of thing03:20
elyezersethk, sudo apt-get dev???03:20
greenmangeorgy: ?  added the host(s) ?03:20
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sethkelyezer, no, you need the entire package name  :)  I'll get you an example03:21
CadteachAnyone with experience installing on a mac?03:21
elyezersethk, ok03:21
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slinky_i grep-ed the system and can't find my problem, anyone like to help03:21
georgygreenman, : I mean add the hostmachine in /etc/hosts03:22
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greenmangeorgy: ah, i shoulda done that anyway.03:22
sethkelyezer, an example:  package libstdc++6-dev03:22
MrWooi just upgraded to edgy, and my all of a sudden my X-server died, I have no gui03:22
sethkelyezer, run synaptic, click on search, type in libstdc03:22
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georgygreenman : sorry, /etc/host.allow03:22
sethkelyezer, that will show you all packages with libstdc in the name.03:22
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greenmangeorgy: *not* /etc/hosts?03:23
elyezersethk,  libstdc++-dev03:23
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georgygreenman,  : no in /etc/hosts.allow03:23
sethkelyezer, I have libstdc++6-dev, not libstdc++-dev03:23
slinky_i don't know where to look to try and solve my problem03:24
w01anyone know how i can put java in a package to install/everything i've tried doesn't seem to work03:24
sethkelyezer, use the search.  In fact, use synaptic, it makes life easier.03:24
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greenmanso, like this:  ALL: 192.168.1.*/ ?03:24
elyezersethk, i'll try this03:24
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whyameyeso dapper and edgy are now sharing this channel? I'm not finding much online resources for edgy and my install suggested lots more bugs than w/ dapper. Are people having success with edgy?03:24
elyezersethk, i'm searching... my pc is too bad03:24
bruenigwhyameye, I am having great success with edgy (xubuntu)03:25
sethkwhyameye, edgy has been out for, what, hours?  a few days?  of course it has glitches.03:25
sethkwhyameye, now that edgy is out, I'm going to move to dapper03:25
sandy16hi there03:25
georgygreenman, : i guess03:25
sethkwhyameye, which is what you should do unless you _need_ something in edgy.03:25
whyameyesethk: it's a release. When dapper was released it was already better than breezy03:25
bruenigsethk, unless you use your desktop for tinkering and messing around with stuff of course03:25
sethkwhyameye, not true, there were many glitches in it.03:26
whyameyebruenig: you have cups working for you?03:26
bruenigwhyameye, yep03:26
elyezersethk, so that is a easy mode to i install anjuta 2.0.2?03:26
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sethkbruenig, sure, but then you expect a few glitches.03:26
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sethkelyezer, sure, you can install it from synaptic.  just search for anjuta, click on it, right click, say install03:26
whyameyesethk: ok. My experience with dapper was different than yours then.03:26
slinky_Admiral Chicago: can you try to help me with a problem?03:26
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sethkwhyameye, I didn't personally have problems with dapper, I helped many many  people who did.03:26
elyezersethk, but i'm using breezy badger03:26
ZehRiquehello, could anyone help me installing grub on my new computer?03:26
sethkelyezer, that's fine, so am I03:27
ZehRiquePVT me03:27
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greenmangeorgy: that didn't work03:27
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shadowhywinddoes anyone know hot to get superkaramba to read net stats?03:27
donfiliposethk i can not find it....it is not as somple in gnome as in kde looks like but there is also another thing....if i open *.ram file (real media) normaly from let us say clippboard link it opens ok only if i click a link in firefox browser it opens in a remain of something which did never work....so probably i need to know in wich file exaclty this settings are and edit them manualy old fassion way typing....so is there any expert in firefox?03:27
bobbyyuMy Kubuntu crashed on itself and now I lost the Java path03:27
slinky_sethk: can you try to help me with a problem?03:27
elyezersethk, i'm brazilian you're understanding me good?03:27
bruenigsethk, your theory of upgrading is very problematic, if everyone follows your theory of wait for a long time and then upgrade, the glitches are never found because nobody uses them and then nobody ever upgrades03:27
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bobbyyuCan someone plesae tell me how to export a java path in Linux?03:27
sandy16can any body tell me how to restore the loading screen from kubuntu to normal ubuntu?03:28
sethkbruenig, no, the glitches just aren't found by _me_.  actually, I have two machines I upgrade.  my production boxes I wait.03:28
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bruenigright but if your upgrading strategies are used by everyone, they aren't found by anyone03:28
sethkbruenig, true, but never fear, there are always tons of people who want it RIGHT NOW  :)03:28
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brueniglike myself03:29
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LubixPlease Help! on the log off menu there is no Shut Down Computer option i dont know where it went or how to get it back!!!03:29
bruenigI will be your shield to system failure03:29
slinky_where do i go to get help?03:29
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haydukeMy ATI Radeon 9600 Pro is in an AGP port, but the bustype in the Device Manager says it's pci... also, I can run at 1024x768x24, but the mouse cursor is messed up, and windows lose their content (become all white) until I move them off the screen and back on again...03:29
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shadowhywindanyone know how to get the net stats working in karamba03:30
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haydukeI also have two entries for my video card, Primary and Secondary... these may be referring to the two ports though.03:30
LubixPlease Help! on the log off menu there is no Shut Down Computer option i dont know where it went or how to get it back!!03:30
bruenigLubix, try System>administration>gdm, make sure the box at the bottom is checked. I forgot what it says something like make options visible or something.03:30
slinky_anyone know how to get a question answered in this channel?03:30
sethkbruenig, as I said, I do update two machines, and I pound on them heavily.  I just don't give the bleeding edge release to my more ordinary users.03:30
bruenigLubix, System>administration>login window*03:30
shadowhywindslinky_ whats your problem? maybe i can help03:30
slinky_in the spirit of ubuntu, of course03:30
elyezersethk, there are some dependencies when i maked libstdc++6 now i'm installing03:30
sethkslinky_, there is so much traffic, I've forgotten what your problem is.03:31
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sethkelyezer, ok, dependencies are good, that's how the package manager helps save you tons of work03:31
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Psi-JackHeh, well, bleh. I just imported a debian deb-source, so I can build libsieve2. :p03:31
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bruenigslinky_, just ask your question03:32
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Lubixawesome >bruenig!03:32
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elyezersethk, sure03:32
ZehRiqueHelp installing Ubuntu 6.10 on a computer with 2 HDs!03:32
slinky_shadowhywind: when i right click on a mp3, the popup menu gives me two entries for "Open with Rhythmbox Music Player" but it i double click on mpe file it gives warning message that mp3 file is a document mp303:32
Lubixnow my next problem i cant get compiz to open!!03:32
irvinwhat is the correct way to disable acpi and enable apm in the kernel?03:32
bruenigLubix, go to #ubuntu-xgl03:32
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shadowhywindslinky_ that is werid, have you installed mp3 support?03:33
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=== slinky_ i uninstalled everyting and reinstalled several times and can't get rid of both open entries
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samuelsup all03:33
georgynikin, : hope it's work now03:33
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!03:33
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georgyGreenaman : sorry i have to go sleep some hours03:34
samuelim trying to get my nvidia card to work for 6.10, but no luck... its a clean install, the VESA driver works fine, but nvidia states "no screens found"? any clues please?03:34
firebird619I just installed MythTV on Edgy and it is working good, but one question is how do I setup the channel guide to get correct information, and also, it works on the mythtv account, but what do I do to get it working on the user account I usually use for everything else?03:34
bruenig!nvidia | samuel03:35
ubotusamuel: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:35
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jvaiwhat's mythtv?? i keep hearing bout it03:35
samuelbruenig, thanks, ill give that a try03:35
bruenigjvai, mythtv is like tivo from what I understand, I am sure a quick wikipedia ought to do a lot of help03:36
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georgynight all03:36
kitchejvai: sorta like Windows Media Center but with just the tv part and better03:36
jvaioo ok to the wiki i go.. ty soo much bruenig03:36
elyezersethk, good now is compiling, thank you for all03:36
sethkelyezer, np, good luck03:36
jvaisoo, mythtv, can stream my hbo show "the wire"?03:37
mirakhow to enable the hibernating mode ?03:37
slinky_shadowhywind: where can i look to find file extension associations?03:37
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shadowhywindi don't know, i am sorry. its a long shot, have you tried to open the mp3 up with say amarok?03:38
slinky_shadowhywind:no, but at this point i'll try anything, thanks03:38
elyezersethk, there are a mode to i put number on lines in anjuta?03:38
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slinky_shadowhywind: i've been programming since 1964 but new to linux, this appears to be a system uninstall problem03:39
iratsushould i be using this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup to set up bluetooth?03:39
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iratsuit doesn't mention gnome-bluetooth03:40
shadowhywindanyone good with superkaramba?03:40
sethkelyezer, there is, but I don't remember it off the top of my head.  I don't have it running here, it's on my machine at work.03:40
sethkelyezer, look for it, it's there somewhere03:40
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elyezersethk, ok thank you so much03:40
frederick85Does anybody know which application is a good GUI frontend for MYSQL admin03:41
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Flannelfrederick85: isn't MySQL admin a GUI frontend?03:41
firebird619Can anyone tell me how to setup mythtv so that it gets the correct channel guide information, right now it shows Unknown for everything?03:41
frederick85Flannel: i'll try running it from the console03:42
kitcheFlannel no it's not a gui frontend03:42
samuelhow am i supposed to know what my nvidia card is? http://pastebin.ca/231876 i have an nvidia geforce 6500... but it doesnt seem to show there03:42
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slinky_shadowhywind: thanks for your help, i'm going to reformat and reinstall everything, been 5 days trying to solve this, only takes an hour to reinstall, thanks again03:42
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shadowhywindi hate to see you do that03:42
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tehbrandon^ Good information for mythtv listings03:43
anderbubbleis there any way to set the volume label of a fat/vfat partition without mtools?03:43
shadowhywindwhat did amarok say?03:43
D00B3Y`please help!!! http://pastebin.ca/231875 ... I added the repositories and everything!!!03:43
anderbubbleand if not, how do I do it with mtools?03:43
frederick85Flannel: Mysql Console is a console program, i'm looking for something like  GTK prog or something03:43
Flannelfrederick85: MySQL has a GUI frontend... "MySQL Query Browser" is the real name, I suppose03:43
kitchesamuel: those are just your chipset you have a nvidia chipset in your computer?03:43
slinky_shadowhywind, so do i but ... unknown error, unknown resolution03:43
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samuelkitche, apparently03:43
shadowhywindthats werid, have you got any sound working?03:43
D00B3Y`does anyone know?03:43
Gevaudan82Flannel: there's the gui mysqladmin and a console mysqladmin...the former is basically to edit users, set permissions, and import/export dumps...the console can basically do everything that the gui can do03:44
kitchesamuel: you have to install the video driver still if that's what you want to install03:44
Flannelfrederick85: and, then 'MySQL Administrator', is for administration03:44
samuelkitche, i also have an nvidia graphics card, could it be X is crashing because it doesnt know what one?03:44
D00B3Y`please someone help me?03:44
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slinky_shadowhywind: sound plays if i select Open with Rhythmbox but fails if i double click on mp3 file, says "its n mp3 document" Warning...03:45
kitchesamuel: no see what driver your X is using it's most likely using vesa if you didn't install the binary driver or enable the nv driver03:45
frederick85Flannel: most servers don't bother running X so you need to be specific about MYSQL I think03:45
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FlannelD00B3Y`: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL/compiz related support03:45
shadowhywindslinky_ so your sound works perfecly fine, just not on opening?03:46
iratsuwhy is hidd --search unable to find my bluetooth device?03:46
Flannelfrederick85: it doesn't need to be on that server, you can use MySQL Adminstrator/Query Browser from a remote machine, they're separate programs03:46
donfilipoanyone knows in wich file mozilla&firefox have written with what helper application they should open *.ram streams (real media)????03:46
slinky_shadowhywind, well it did before i uninstalled everything03:46
samuelkitche, its using vesa, ive tried to get nvidia working but no luck so far... i just read i need the specific kernel for my cpu... so ill install that first then see what i see03:46
D00B3Y`Flannel, thanks03:46
shadowhywindslinky_ what do you mean everything?03:46
frederick85Flannel: what is the name of the Query Browser?03:47
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frederick85Flannel: in my case I want it on the same machine, my purpose is just for testing03:47
Flannelfrederick85: "MySQL Query Browser" : http://mysql.com/products/tools/03:47
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Flannelfrederick85: right, but they're entirely independant of each other03:47
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frederick85Flannel: thanks03:48
slinky_shadowhywind: music player, totem , all codecs and mp3 stuff, reinstalled only ubuntu desktop, totem, music player and gstreamer, but still end up wuth two entries in popup menu when right clicking to play file03:48
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frederick85Flannel: so I type sudo apt-get install "Mysql query browser"03:48
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Flannelfrederick85: no, I have no idea what the package name is.  Or even if it is one.  Let me look.03:49
sanmarcosfrederick85: apt-cache search mysql query browser, see the package name03:49
shadowhywindsliny_ i asumed you tried to rightclick on the file, select your program and say always open with that program03:49
frederick85flannel: i asked my good friend google03:49
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Flannelfrederick85: "mysql-admin" : http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/admin/mysql-admin03:50
slinky_shadowhywind: with everything uninstalled comletely including configuration files i still get one entry to Open with Rhythmbox music player03:50
frederick85sanmarcos: that search method isn't as reliable as google I find03:50
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Flannelfrederick85: and "mysql-query-browser"03:50
shadowhywindoh, that is a little over my head03:50
sanmarcosfrederick85: you have to know how to use it, --names-only. and grepping out, using quotes03:50
sanmarcosfrederick85: just as google, brother.03:50
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slinky_sharowhywind: that works fine if i reinstall everything but i get two entries in menu and an error if i double click on mp3 file03:50
Flannelfrederick85: or, since you're using a GUI, search in synaptic.03:51
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slinky_shadowhywind: i can not get rid of the last Open with Rhythmbox Music Player in the popup menu every after uninstalling03:51
oblibI just updated to Edgy -- does anyone know why emacs can no longer find a good font?03:52
ScrapeAnyone help me solve some issues with a wireless net card under xubuntu?03:52
sanmarcosoblib: because emacs doenst use xft/fontconfig03:52
sanmarcos!doesnt work > Scrape03:53
kitcheScrape: chipset of your wireless card?03:53
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ppmstrhell with ati drivers.03:53
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Scrapekitche: Prism2, I believe. It's a D-Link SWL-650. It works w/ the orinoco_cs driver... EXCEPT... it generates a lot of TX timeouts, especially when I try to print to remote print server... enough that I can't actually print.03:54
slinky_shadowhywind: I'll move my data files over to a windows drive and i'll reinstall ubuntu, something is wrong in a configuration file and i just dont know where to look yet, thank you very much for your help03:54
JuJuBeeI thought that I would get Firefox 2.0 if I upgraded to edgy?03:54
JuJuBeeI still have
ppmstrI'm currently trying to use fglrx with no success for an ati radeon X1600... anyone can provide a hand? xorg error logs reports several io allocations errors... (if you want I can post the log on some pastebin)03:54
mirakaptitude wants to remove fspot and such, I don't understand why03:55
jstarcherAnyone good with GRUB? I have a windows partition that I want to reformat to a linux FS but I think it will mess up my boot config03:55
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miraknow aptitude wants to remove mysql, that's insane03:55
shadowhywindhope your problem is fixed after the reinstall, sometimes that is the best, before we start pulling hair out03:55
Psi-JackOkay, for PostgreSQL 8.1, what's the main admin user set to, in Ubuntu?03:56
shadowhywindanyone use karamba03:56
slinky_shadowhywind: i so much agree, thanks again03:56
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ppmstranyone can help with that sort of classic ati driver config problem03:56
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kitchejstarcher: it won't mess up the config really03:57
ppmstrFor myself I'm getting quite sick of it.03:57
ScrapeW/ no files in /etc/pcmcia by default, how does Ubuntu figure out what driver to load for a given PCMCIA card?03:57
kitcheScape: ok have you tried a different channel by chance for your card and router? to make sure there isn't something interfereing with them03:57
teledynScrape: could there be radio interference from a nearby AP on the same channel?03:57
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kholer I tried camorama but get error "Could not connect to video device (/dev/video1). Please check connection." I'm using the edgy livecd on a laptop with a webcam. ANy siggestions?03:58
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jstarcherkitche: I have windows on the primary boot partition and linux on a logical partition. I won't have a boot partition if I format the windows partition. It will still work?03:58
Scrapekitche: I have two laptops... one does just fine, the other doesn't. Identical setups, except for the cards.03:58
ScrapeIdentical configs, I should say, not identical laptops.03:58
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kitchejstarcher: well /boot in linux should be a primary partition so it might mess up if your boot isn't on a primary partition03:59
variantwtf is it with azureus? its been broken for months and noone will fi it03:59
ubotunvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8774+ (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB03:59
ScrapeI'm trying alternate drivers for the card. Hostap_cs is worse than orinoco_cs. O03:59
teledynScrape: maybe one card is higher powered than the other?03:59
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ScrapeI'd like to try wlan-ng, but can't figure out how to make it work. I've blacklisted orinoco and hostap so they don't load, but still no luck.03:59
Scrapeteledyn: I'm 10 feet from the router.03:59
jstarcherkitche: I think I made grub on my MBR though. I can't seem to find a config file. There are some files in /boot but not grub.conf04:00
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Scrapeteledyn: And, it worked fine under Win98.04:00
kitchejstarcher: /boot/grub/menu.lst is what you want04:00
shadowhywindvariant what is wrong with azureus04:00
teledynScrape: maybe an issue with the driver.  i don't know.04:00
variantshadowhywind: nm, i see that the bug was fixed recently :P#04:00
Scrapeteledyn: that's what I'm figuring. Trying to use alternate drivers, but can't get wlan-ng to work.04:01
ppmstrah fuck off this ati shit... forums are cracking with unanswered post with people trying to get their card working,,, Feels like I have better things to do than figure out why there are bad i/o allocation for my divers...04:01
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jvaimythtv is too heavy for me, i installed then uninstalled, i ran into dependency probs on the install04:01
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jstarcherkitche: ahhhh thanks!04:01
nikinwhat program should i use for remote accesing X?04:01
variantppmstr: mind your language, and thats what youget iwth proprietry drivers :P04:01
teledynScrape: you could always build wlan-ng from source and load it manualy04:01
kitchejstarcher: but the formating the windows shouldn't effect grub since it has nothing to do with windows since it sits on the linux partiton04:01
oblibsanmarcos, can I fix it?04:01
teledynScrape: just modprobe -r  the other modules04:01
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sanmarcosoblib: get emacs cvs04:01
jstarcherkitche: so when I delete the primary dos partition do I leave the boot tag on it?04:02
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ppmstrvariant: As far as I know nvidia are not quite open drivers though, they work.04:02
blazeHello all04:02
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metoday I have installed ubuntu, when I installed ubuntu with DVDI got sopport for my reader of cards, but now I installed with CD and I did not get it, what do I have to do?04:02
Scrapeteledyn: The module is loaded, but it doesn't seem to see the device.04:02
jstarcherkitche: remember that's the one that has windows. I will be splitting it into a couple smaller partitions as well04:02
ppmstranyways,... spent to much time on that.04:02
variantppmstr: they are certainly not open, and they have thier own share of problems04:02
ScrapeDo PCMCIA modules have to be associated with the device ID somehow, or should it, if it's loaded, automagically find it's device.04:02
variantpprandom lockups to name one04:02
teledynScrape: did you install linux-wlan-ng04:02
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Scrapeteledyn: yes. Doesn't seem to do anything.04:03
blazeI am just getting ubuntu running for the first time, and I was wondering if any one could point me in the right direction to find ubuntu resources04:03
kitcheteledyn: I checked wlan-ng supported devices and it seems like Scrape's card isn't supported04:03
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teledynScrape: the module loads.  can you ifconfig the device up?04:03
ryjaxanyone ever get a 'received broken pipe signal' error when configuring cvs for sending emails?04:03
metoday I have installed ubuntu, when I installed ubuntu with DVDI got sopport for my reader of cards, but now I installed with CD and I did not get it, what do I have to do?04:03
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oblibsanmarcos, do you know if emacs will be fixed in Ubuntu eventuallly, or will I always have to compile on my own?04:03
kitchejstarcher: well grub doesn't care really what partition is tagged as bootable really04:04
Scrapeteledyn: nope04:04
kholercan someone help me with getitng my webcam working? I tried camorama but it gets an error04:04
metoday I have installed ubuntu, when I installed ubuntu with DVDI got sopport for my reader of cards, but now I installed with CD and I did not get it, what do I have to do?04:04
sanmarcosoblib: its not about fixing, nothing is broken. A feature is not supported04:04
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sanmarcosoblib: and distros do not include CVS versions in most cases, try #emacs04:04
cam_does anyone know if there will be a 686 kernel for edgy. becasue the 386 is really slow!04:04
teledynScrape: i don't know if maybe there's some parameter on the card you can tweak with the prism driver using the iwpriv command04:05
metoday I have installed ubuntu, when I installed ubuntu with DVDI got sopport for my reader of cards, but now I installed with CD and I did not get it, what do I have to do?04:05
oblibsanmarcos, so do I need to enable something specifically before I 'make' the CVS version? and why did it work before but doesn't now?04:05
kholerme: I'm no quite sure what you mean..04:05
kholerme: you have a card reader and its not working?04:06
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sanmarcosoblib: I dont use emacs.04:06
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mekholer: my card reader does not work04:06
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metoday I have installed ubuntu, when I installed ubuntu with DVDI got sopport for my reader of cards, but now I installed with CD and I did not get it, what do I have to do?04:07
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keltenHow do I see what permissions each file has in a folder?04:07
cam_yes we can see the message me: but you need to explain it a bit better04:07
MTecknologyWhat was the command to monitor the data a device is processing? I tried cat /dev/ttyS1 to 7 but got an error "cat: /dev/ttyS1: Input/output error"04:07
oblibsanmarcos, 'CVS version' of a program usually just means the most recent, possible exerimental, version, right?04:07
teledynkelten: ls -l04:07
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zanopholI have installed edgy with gnome and kde. When I login, I have huge fonts for login and password...is there something I need to change in my xorg.conf, since this seems independent of gnome or kde?04:08
mecam_: my cards reader does not work04:08
kitcheMTecknology: is it a terminal device?04:08
keltenWhats the command to find out what distro im running and what version04:08
sanmarcosoblib: cvs head, yes, I suggest you #emacs, again04:08
MTecknologykitche, it's a stylus04:08
meI insert a sd and it does not work04:08
MTecknologythat i'm trying to monitor04:08
ryjaxif i'm in the wrong channel for cvs help, can someone tell me where to go pls?04:08
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wladstonI'm facing a bug on firefox. I'm on edgy. It will only show up pages when I redimension my window04:08
kitchekelten: uname -a will show you all the information you want04:08
keltenIt jsut says Linux though04:09
teledynkelten: lsb_release -a04:09
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keltenokay, thanks04:09
sethkkelten, that tells you info about the kernel, really, nothing else04:09
cam_mme: any output from dmesg after inputing a card?04:09
reversebladehow can i switch to metacity as default with beryl ?04:09
oblibsanmarcos, but this seems to be a problem with the Ubuntu package -- it worked in Dapper, but doesn't in Edgy. It seems like a distro shouldn't distribute a bad package...04:09
sethkkelten, I was talking about uname, not about lsb_....04:09
sanmarcosoblib: its free, dont complain04:10
wladstonnoone can help me to fix firefox ??04:10
sethkoblib, then we wouldn't have anybody to help here04:10
MTecknologykitche, do you know?04:10
keltenya, i know04:10
sanmarcosoblib: fix it yourself, thats the motto04:10
kitcheMTecknology: nope04:10
wladstonnot it asked me to report a bug04:10
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oblibsanmarcos, not everyone can do that (but I suppose people who can't woudln't be using emacs) so it makes sense to try to fix the package. Is this worth filing a bug on?04:11
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oblibsethk, what do you mean?04:11
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sanmarcosoblib: yes it is worth, and people who can do use emacs a lot04:11
baboguys, does the ubuntu ff installation come with the DOM inspector on it ?04:11
cam_riversblade: i think you are confused, metacity and beryl are do the same thing. You can only be using one or the other04:12
jribbabo: install firefox-dom-inspector package04:12
oblibsanmarcos, I guess my question really is "Is emacs broken in Edgy, or is it likely something specific only to my set up"?04:12
mjbjrit seems to me that if you're "unixy" enough to use emacs, you're "unixy" enough to be using a "real" linux distro   ;)04:12
sethkoblib, I wasn't being serious.04:12
oblibsanmarcos, do you know if it is universally broken in edgy?04:12
sanmarcosoblib: dont use emacs, and its called edgy for a reason04:13
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sethkoblib, seems unlikely, since it hasn't changed in ages, but I can't be certain.04:13
ianmacgregoremacs is a nice OS.04:13
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kitcheianmacgregor: yeah the text editor is nice also :)04:14
teledynoblib: check to see if there are any outstanding bugs matching yours04:14
oblibIs anyone else having problems here with emacs in Edgy?04:14
oblibteledyn, is there an easy way to do that, or do I just need to search Launchpad?04:15
teledynoblib: i don't know, but imagine there's some ubuntu page where you can search for bugs by package04:15
Farnabyoblib, I haven't had any problems with emacs yet but I don't use it much04:15
oblibFarnaby, can you pull it up in Gnome and see letters? All I'm getting is boxes (bad font)04:16
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Farnabyoblib, I was able to a while ago, yeah04:17
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oblibFarnaby, in Edgy?04:17
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FarnabyI beieve I pulled it up sunday morning which is after I converted yeah04:18
Farnabybelieve even04:18
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hocminI'm having problems getting mp3 support with a fresh install of ubuntu.  Most sites I find searching suggesting installing various gstreamer packages, but that doesn't seem to be helping04:18
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whyameyehocmin did you try:04:19
whyameye!restricted formats04:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:19
Farnabyhocmin, one of the two problems I have found since I upgraded to edgy is that quark no longer seems to be willing to play MP3 files04:19
hocminwhyameye: no, but I'll take a look at those.  Thanks04:19
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oblibOkay, looks like someone's reported a bug already : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xfontsel/+bug/5780304:19
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FarnabyThe other issue I am having is that my screensaver is fubared04:21
Fracturehi.  I keep getting "Message from syslogd@localhost" etc.. messages in every console on my machine.  How can I stop this ?04:21
hocminwhyameye, taking a quick look at those pages it appears that it's suggesting I convert all my mp3's to ogg?04:21
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FarnabyAnd FF is now seeming to crash a lot, odd04:21
dibblegowhen upgrading I got into trouble with apt-get and samba - http://rafb.net/paste/results/sjqsTh39.html - how do I resolve it?04:21
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swizI just upgraded to 6.10, and my network seems to be borked.  I can return pings from sites, but I can't make any sort of connection (http, ssh, ftp) to any location.  Any ideas?04:23
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whyameyehocmin: I think it's there, interspersed with the ogg stuff.04:24
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kmastaok what the crap, i just upgraded to edgy and now X server has crashed, it says it cant find my video drivers04:26
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FarnabyI just realised that it won't let me download libggi2 for edgy...04:26
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kitchekmasta: try installing your driver for your video card should be sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-<driver>04:27
Farnabywonder if thats whats causing my screensaver bork04:27
neonempyrQuicksilver-like app launcher for Ubuntu?04:28
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swizjust upgraded to edgy, but I have a network issue.  All of my pings are returned, but I cannot make a tcp or udp connection of any type (ssh, http, etc).  any ideas?04:28
kmastakitche, it was working just fine with dapper though04:28
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kitchekmasta: try reinstalling the video driver though it might fix your problem04:29
neonempyrswiz are you wireless?04:29
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FarnabyDoes anybody else use quark?04:29
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kmastakitche, am I supposed to put like ATI where you wrote driver04:30
neonempyrswiz: are you wireless?04:30
kitchekmasta: yes if you have an ati card04:30
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kmastakitche, well in that case it says I already have the latest version04:30
kitchekmasta: if your using the binary driver you have to reinstall it since edgy uses a different kernel then dapper04:30
swizneonempyr: no, wired lan.  worked fine in 6.06 and in a dualboot on another os, so its not the network itself.04:30
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kmastakitche: i have no idea what that is, Iwas just using the ATI driver that  came with dapper04:31
jvaioop there he is04:31
swizi did?04:31
AlanHaggaiI had used the synaptic manager to download kubuntu-desktop and all the dependencies. I downloaded all of it and didn't install. How to install it now?04:31
neonempyrswiz: Are you pinging domains or your router?04:31
kmastakitche: i noticed the driver in xorg.conf was set to vesa, i set it to ATI and thats still didn'twork04:31
kitchekmasta: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and pastebin it if you can04:31
FarnabyGDI. Gnome screensaver is still borked. Won't let me select another screensaver other then BioF. When I try I have to forcequit04:31
jvaiaftr the question about quartz, it said u left swiz04:31
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swizneonempyr: i checked the router and other machines on the local netork, and machines on the internet itself04:31
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neonempyrswiz: are your domains resolving to an IP address when you ping?04:32
swizneonempyr: yes04:32
kmastakitche, hold on onesecond don'tmove04:32
kitchejvai he did part then he returned right after probably swiz just hit a wrong key04:32
jvaioo ok04:32
neonempyrswiz: so your other apps don't have internet access then, right? nothing else?04:33
Rav|strangleris there an .chm viewer on linux?04:33
kitchekmasta just say my name and my client will beep sicne I m sorta watching tv at the moment but don't mind helping since I have tv on my computer04:33
Rav|strangleror built in to ubuntu04:33
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swizneonempyr: as far as I can tell, nothing network related past pings works.  i can't connect to anything besides pings.  but it gets better.04:33
AlanHaggaiok friends, found it :)04:34
kmastakitche; ok i got it04:34
obo12Anyone here proficient with vim?04:34
swizneonempyr: i upgraded earlier today, and things were working fine.  i was doing some tasks, and great.  then this problem struck.  but i had just done a clean install, so i figured i must hve messed something up, so ill save time and just reinstall pure.04:34
whyameyeRav|strangler, try gnochm. I think it's in the ubuntu repos.04:34
Rav|strangleroh ok thanks04:34
kmastakitche: what am I looking for04:34
swizneonempyr: but ive had the same problem on 3 vanilla installs since.04:34
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AlanHaggaiHo obo1204:34
kitchekmasta: look for any errors mostly lines that start with EE is probably where you find what is wrong04:35
neonempyrswiz: I had a similar problem with my ethernet when I installed dapper, let alone edgy. my router appeared to be fine just like you04:35
obo12AlanHaggai: Hello04:35
Perissattoi have worked with vim at long time.04:35
kmasta(EE) no drivers available04:35
neonempyrswiz: did you happen to have your ethernet unplugged when you installed?04:35
MrProper_Hey all, im having a problem with edgy and rdesktop, screen refreshes are borked. if i drag another window over an rdesktop/tsclient window, it will not refresh that section04:35
swizneonempyr: no, plugged in04:35
AlanHaggaiobo12 : what is the problem?04:35
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kmastakitche (EE) failed to load module "fglrx"04:36
kitchekmasta: ah you have to reinstall the binary driver04:36
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obo12I'm using vim to transparently edit gpg files via the .vimrc file at http://www.vi-improved.org/wiki/index.php/VimGpg04:36
kmastakitche: what the hell, why?04:36
obo12This has worked fine on Fedora before04:36
kitchekmasta: as I said edgy uses a different kernel then dapper04:36
neonempyrswiz: under System > Admin. > Networking , what are your DNS servers?04:37
kmastakitche, ok how do i reinstall binaries04:37
obo12but edgy is giving me some issues04:37
MrProper_kmasta: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx04:37
swizneonempyer: not sure, id have to reboot in and get back to you on that one.  should i?04:37
obo127 lines filtered04:37
obo12shell returned 204:37
obo12138 lines filtered04:37
obo12Error detected while processing BufRead Auto commands for "*.gpg":04:37
obo12E121: Undefined variable: ch_save04:37
obo12E15: Invalid expression: ch_save|unlet ch_save04:37
Xenguyobo12: could you just decrypt, then edit?04:37
obo12E20: Mark not set04:37
tritiumkmasta: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>04:37
AlanHaggaiobo12 : oh I see!!! Sorry. I don't know that :(04:37
swizneonmpyer: i think theyre coming from my ISP but im not sure04:37
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obo12Xenguy: Yes but thats a hassle. The transparency is the whole point really ...04:38
kitchekmasta: the package name is xorg-driver-fglrx04:38
eegoreHas anyone had isssues with ubuntu when playing UT and choppy performance when hitting a server?04:38
neonempyrswiz: Right well your DNS should be. One sec before you reboot04:38
Xenguyobo12: Mmm04:38
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blazeHey all04:38
kmastakitche, so what do I type04:38
nardis_mileshas anyone worked with the new version of fstab?04:38
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kmastasuod apt-get install xorg-dirver-fglrx04:38
kitchesudo apt-get install --reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx04:38
Perissattowhat software i need use for work with bluetooth cellphones on ubuntu?04:38
obo12It decrypts, allows you to edit and re-encrypt the file again, all from vim04:38
blazeWhen I try to update my software preferences to alter my repoisitories it always fails when trying to reciveve the package lists04:38
disasmhey, off topic, but does anyone know a good freenode channel to get help with posix compliant c code?04:39
neonempyrswiz: check to see if you have servers in that DNS tab I just mentioned and try again your internet apps04:39
MrProper_Perissatto, sudo apt-get install gnome-bluetooth04:39
Xenguyobo12: one step I assume - sweet04:39
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MrProper_Hey all, im having a problem with edgy and rdesktop, screen refreshes are borked. if i drag another window over an rdesktop/tsclient window, it will not refresh that section04:39
kmastakitche, this problem sucks, why would ubuntu do somethign like this, I thought they took care of everything when i did the upgrade04:39
obo12Xenguy: Yeah really neat.04:39
swizneonempyr: ok, bb in roughly 5 or so04:39
obo12Now that I can't do it, I relize how much I miss it04:39
MrProper_kmasta, not really fglrx is a binary piece of poo04:39
kitchekmasta: well the binary drivers are like that for all the distros04:40
neonempyrWhy does fglrx have to suck so much04:40
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FarnabyHrm, it appears that my xine libs got borked in the upgrade as well04:40
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MrProper_kmasta, if you dont want to have to do this, just switch the driver to 'ati' instead of 'fglrx'04:40
neonempyrand Why did I buy a laptop with an ATI card in it?04:40
kmastakitche: i tried that04:40
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MrProper_neonempyr, well its made by ati thats explanation enough04:40
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kmastakitche, i was originally set to vesa, then I changed it to ATI04:41
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neonempyrCouldn't have said it better04:41
kitchekmasta: well fglrx is not ati ati is Xorg04:41
MrProper_neonempyr, im just hoping the fact that amd bought them means changes for us04:41
neonempyrMrProper_, I'm hoping as well04:41
Farnabyargh, this screensaver issue is annoying04:41
MrProper_fglrx still comes from ati regardless of the fact that xorg package it04:42
kmastakitche: i guess i'm just used to being spoiled with windows where when I update Idon't have change a bunch of stuff I had no idea I had to change when I upgrade04:42
kitcheMrProper_: umm ati is xorg's open source wrapper04:42
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neonempyrThey're just scared they stepped on a patent04:42
neonempyrAnyone have any opinions on their favorite laptop in terms of compatibility with ubuntu?04:42
studenthai felipe04:42
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MrProper_kitche, we werent talking about the 'ati' driver, we were talking about the 'fglrx' driver04:42
obo12So do we have any VIM experts in the house?04:43
MrProper_obo12, whats your prob?04:43
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studentare u shit in me?04:43
Xenguyobo12: check out #vim04:43
kitcheMrProper_: umm ubuntu calls it xorg-driver-fglrx not Xorg Xorgh doesn't package fglrx04:43
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obo12I'm using vim to transparently edit gpg files via the .vimrc file at http://www.vi-improved.org/wiki/index.php/VimGpg04:43
swizneonempyr: dns was the local ip address of my router, which compred to another machine on the network, is set as appropo04:43
studentu son of a bitch04:43
obo12Xenguy: Need to register or some shit like that04:44
Xenguystudent: be quiet04:44
MrProper_kitche, regardless, fglrx really comes from ATI04:44
swizneonempyr: but now, i'm back in edgy and things seem to be working.  FM04:44
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nardis_milesHas anyone looked at /etc/fstab in edgy? If so, do you understand how to edit it?04:44
neonempyrswiz: oh so you're working all right in edgy then?04:44
kitcheMrProper_: yes it does but you got what I said wrong04:44
obo12MrProper_: It worked in Fedora, but won't in edgy04:44
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swizneonempyr: yeah, but its fkn magic.  i dont understand why it wasnt working before, but magically is now, after 3 reinstalls and a dozen or so reboots.04:44
kmastaquestion: why do I have to manually update fglrx, shouldn't that be something ubuntu takes care of when it tells me that it's updating everything for me04:44
neonempyrof course it doesn't really matter what wraps what does it?04:44
MrProper_kitche, hehe possibly, its been a long day04:44
neonempyrfglrx still pretty much sucks a butt04:44
neonempyrswiz: I had the same deal, couldn't pin it down04:45
MrProper_god i wish my work gave me an nvidia laptop.....ati just fuels my annoyances at them04:45
swizkind of funny -- im trying to prepare a presentation for tomorrow, and this is the absolute worst time for something like this to happen.  i was more than a little peeved.  thanks for the help.04:45
kmastaoh hell yes, it works04:45
neonempyrswiz: was hoping we could figure something out; I'm sure it's something simple but deceptively...deceptive. glad it's working04:45
whyameyekmasta: what DID it do? switch you over to the ATI opensource drivers?04:45
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mineralewhat's the name of the default ftp server that comes with ubuntu?04:46
swizneonempyr: exactly.  and its not even something that you can easily google or look for.  i only found one pertinent response, and it was an unanswered forum thread regarding a similar issue.04:46
Xenguyminerale: I recommend vsftpd04:46
kitchewhyameye: no kmasta had to reinstall fglrx since an upgrade changes kernel04:46
neonempyrAll we can do is pray for the day that ATI and NVidia both will care that we get pissed off about this stuff. One solution: WORLD DOMINATION04:46
Farnabyalso, if I don't get quark sorted I am going to get real peeved at NIN since thats all I have in OGG04:46
whyameyekitche: so it didn't change his xorg.conf file when he upgraded?04:46
kitchewhyameye: no it did not04:47
kmastakitche: WHY DIDN'T IT CHANGE THAT FILE04:47
mineralexenguy: I'm looking for the ftp serer with the lowest overheaed04:47
Xenguyminerale: it is very lean and fast04:47
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jvaign all, i gotta get home.04:47
Xenguyminerale: moreso than proftpd or wu04:47
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MrProper_kitche, do this: aticonfig --initial && aticonfig enable04:48
kitchekmasta: well don't think the xorg package has a xorg.conf in it since it does autodetection04:48
MrProper_kitche, this will rewrite your xorg.conf to use the correct ati crap04:49
kitcheMrProper_: sorry but I m a nvidia user :)04:49
kmastakitche: what does that mean04:49
MrProper_oops that was meant for kmasta04:49
MadHatte1hey, has anyone put ubuntu on a dell latitude D820 before?04:49
kmastakitche: why didn't the auto detection work04:49
MrProper_or whoever had the problem with fglrx04:49
slappy1986Can/Will anybody here help me with geting a wireless card working on my powerbook?04:50
kmastayea,i had the problem with fglrx04:50
kitchekmasta: xorg will write it's own config if it doesn't see one already in /etc/X11 with vesa or ati depending if you had the ati driver installed04:50
kmastaand when i upgraded the kernel it forgot to cary over my xorg.conf file04:50
kmastaand when i upgraded the kernel it forgot to cary over my xorg.conf file04:51
whyameyedoes anybody use clamav and is there any point to using it?04:51
kmastathe xorg.conf that worked that is04:51
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kmastacorrect kitche?04:51
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kitchekmasta: no your xorg.conf had fglrx which the new kernel didn't know that it was installed since it needs ot be compiled against the new kernel04:51
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MistaEDwhat the hell? ubuntu is stuffing around today i can't click on something properly until i go to like a tty and back to xorg and even then only some things will click04:51
kmastawhy didn't the new kernel know about that04:52
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taganyone use GPRS?04:52
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swizfinally on a real client :] 04:52
whyameyekmasta why are you so stuck on this?04:52
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kmastacause I'm trying to learn so that next time I have the problem I can figure it out myself04:52
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kmastai'm new to linux, this is a learning experience for me04:53
blazeHey, any ideas as to why I can not add multiverse repositories to my sources.list? They are refusing to connect for some reason04:53
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kmastait's not enough to know how to fix the problem, i wanna know what caused it04:53
Xenguykmasta: relax, it takes months and years ;-)04:53
MadHatte1can anyone help me install drivers for my wireless card?04:53
kmastaxenguy, gotta start some where though right?04:53
blazeMadHatte1: you must be much more specific04:53
Xenguykmasta: but you got the right idea :-)04:53
UFO64unless you can get an operator to DL the linux program right into your brain....04:53
UFO64anyone got a cell phone?04:53
MadHatte1its the one in the dell latitude D82004:53
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blazewhat sort of card?04:54
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dibblegoafter upgrading 6.06 to 6.10, when I drag a window, it is very clunky and doesn't update properly - what might the problem be?04:54
shebangbinbashanyone have the ubuntu cert yet?04:54
kmastaso when the new kernel compiled, it didn't compile with the xorg.conf fromthe dapper kernel?04:54
whyameyekmasta: I think part of the issue is that fglrx is proprietary so ubuntu's support for it is probably a bit less than say the ATI open source drivers. If you were using the open source drivers when you upgraded, it would have been smoother. When using proprietary drivers, distros like ubuntu are more likely to crack.04:54
MadHatte1intel proset wireless 3945abg04:55
kitchekmasta: The reason a single binary driver will not work across a kernel series is the lack of internal API and ABI (application binary interface) compatibility in the kernel.04:55
Ademanthis is the weakest thing ever, i tried to install the k3d package and the install script didn't work, and now i can't uninstall it either cause it wasnt to run the post-install script first04:55
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XenguyAdeman: edgy ?04:55
slappy1986anybody know how to get my laptop to detect my wireless card?04:55
XenguyAdeman: mmm04:56
phargleplug it in04:56
slappy19861150 delltruemobile, it says on the website its supported04:56
slappy1986it freezes if i put it in04:56
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slappy1986and if i put it in and boot it don't finish booting lol04:56
Ademanthe install script complained about a python version, so i figure it wants an older version (probably 2.3 or something) so i think i could get it to completely install, but is there any way to just cut it out?04:56
kromelHello, I've done searches and tried to follow guides.  I recently installed Beryl which removed restricted.  Now my wireless no longer works.  Can someone point this newb in the right direction on how to get my wireless working again?  sorry for long post.04:56
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kmastakitche: but it wasn't like i changed it to fglrx when i first installed dapper, i just used what was ever default. why wouldn't that default config carryover, that seems like something you'd wanna make sure stayed the same between kernels04:56
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kitchekmasta: it's a ubuntu thing but according to your Xorg.0.log use used binary drivers04:57
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FarnabyI am sure I will return, just like Mcarthur04:57
slappy1986ok i got it in how do i tell if its on?04:58
jordanWhat is the offical way to upgrade to edgy on a machine without X?04:58
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ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)04:58
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kmastakitche: funny, i don't remmeber switching to binary....04:59
kmastakitche: O WAIT, SON OF A........04:59
jordanXenguy: And the official way to upgrade with update-manager and no X is?05:00
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iratsumy computer is able to find a bluetooth device when running hcitool scan, but not while running hidd --search. is this normal?05:00
kmastait has all become very clear05:00
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kmastathank you kitche05:00
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kitcheno problem kmasta05:01
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kitchejordan: change your source.lst so dapper says edgy05:02
kitchejordan: then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:03
jordankitche, But the wiki warns NOT to do that05:03
w01i am having trouble getting java on my machine any suggestions05:03
jordankitche: "Upgrading using apt-get -- NOT RECOMMENDED"05:03
w01i downloaded self extracting file (bin)05:03
swizwhile logged in as user _a_, i cannot have a shell open with user _b_ and use any commands like gksudo or gedit (basically anything graphical)  how can i fix this?05:04
kitchejordan: then download the cd if you want to feel safe downloading the iso is good also05:04
Gevaudan82w01: why? just do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-sdk after enabling the extra repos05:04
w01can i multiverse and universe?05:05
jordankitche: So the only way is to run the update script from the alternate cd?05:05
w01from the synoptic manger?05:05
Gevaudan82w01: add them...when in doubt follow the guide at ubuntuguide.org and add the repos mentioned in there...note that PLF is no longer maintained so comment that out as well as the last one in the list, the listiner repo or something like that05:05
kitchejordan: yeah if you want to feel safe05:05
jordankitche: Thanks.05:06
w01ok thankyou!05:06
Gevaudan82w01: if you want or edit /etc/apt/sources.list05:06
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kitcheswiz: it's due to the fact that only root can do what you want try sudo su user_b and see if it will let you be user_b in your X05:06
swizkitche: no dice05:06
tagI'm trying to use my phone as a GPRS modem, but LCP seems to be unable to work properly with it05:06
tagOct 31 20:06:00 sludge pppd[16145] : Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyACM005:07
tagOct 31 20:06:31 sludge pppd[16145] : LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests05:07
LinLenLapHiya.... I just downloaded paintball2 from digitalpaint. used to play it on windows. How do i get it to run?05:07
tagthat's as far as it gets05:07
LinLenLapI think the website figures if you're using linux, you'd know this.05:07
LinLenLapCan't find any info.05:07
SlackRatkitche, got bored in ##slackware? no problems to fix??  :P05:07
swizkitche: i open a term as user _a_ while logged inas user _a_ via X, su - to root, and su to the different user, and attempt to start the gtk app.  no dice.05:07
kitcheswiz: there is probably a way to do it with sudo but I m not a very knowledgeable person for sudo05:07
swizkitche: that gives me some ideas i can try.  thanks.05:08
MadHatte1why does the command "make" not work?05:08
LinLenLapI've tried things like "paintball2.sh" from within the directory.05:08
kitcheSlackRat no I been very bored in many distro channels but never get bored here :)05:08
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Gevaudan82MadHatte1: sudo apt-get install build-essential05:08
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swizMadHatte1: last time i checked, make was not installed by default.  not since hoary, i believe.05:08
LinLenLapThe creator, Jitspoe, emailed me once telling me how, and it was a simple thing, like unpack then type "xxxxxxx", but I don't remember what the command was and have lost the email.05:09
MadHatte1thank you very much05:09
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SlackRatkitche.....and why is that?05:09
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LinLenLapI came here to ask since I'm running excellent edgy and I think the issue is simply about making this file executable.05:10
kitcheSlackRat: I hang out in a lot of the advance distro channels05:10
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flakeis there a way around the redraw problem when using wine05:10
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flakeand some gdi application05:10
kitcheSlackRat: so I get bored since most of those channels there is no help and I don't like #gentoo that much so I don't go in that one05:11
pixelPOETLinLenLap, try sudo chmod +x [appname] 05:11
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neonempyrMindmap software?05:12
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LinLenLappixel: sudo chmod +x paintball2 returns no errors, after which "paintball2" returns nothing at all.05:12
Gevaudan82LinlenLap: are you typing ./paintball2 or paintball2...the former is correct05:12
SlackRatso youre giving back help to new users here cause the advanced distros generaally roll their own and dont have wall to wall newbs learning linux?05:13
troopaI try to install Ubuntu and the X server fails. I fix this by reconfiguring it and using the VESA driver. This starts X just fine, and I can even hear the music that the installation has. However, it seems to shut my LCD off (it just goes amber light and I can't see anything). I read some bug reports and tried commenting out some problematic modules X wants to load like they said, but nothing works.05:13
Gevaudan82meh ubuntu can be as advance as you want it to be...i choose it mainly for the hardware support05:13
troopaDoes anyone else have problems getting Generic LCD displays working with Ubuntu?05:13
pixelPOETLinLenLap, chmod should output anything...05:13
pixelPOET./paintball2 returns nothing at all?05:14
FarnabyHrm, can't figure out why BioF is causing me such a headache05:14
LinLenLapGevaudan82: I was typing the latter. The former attempts to run the program and then runs into some GL issues. I'll have to look into those on the forums since I'm just running a fresh install and haven't looked into my intel 915 driver much.05:14
kitcheSlackRat: I give back to the community anyways I am a guru or dev for SourceMage05:15
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Gevaudan82LinLenLap: try typing glxgears and see if it runs at full speed...might be an opengl issue05:15
SlackRattrue, i like the ease of installation but spend a week trying to get it back to a more debian state, without all the gui clutter.....05:15
pixelPOETLinLenLap ... then the program will run once you get all your graphics drivers installed...05:15
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Gevaudan82SlackRat: do you even use a GUI?05:16
LinLenLapGLXGEARS returns: .libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b05:16
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SlackRatbut so far ,  advanced configures in ubunt work, unlike a few other distros....heh, i use a gui all the time.....its what my consoles open on and i can move em all round05:16
Gevaudan82LinLenLap: you don't have your graphics driver installed or your card does not support opengl/3d rendering05:16
LinLenLapI don't want to bother you or pixel anymore...I'm gonna try to work the driver thing out on my own first. Many thanks for getting me going though!05:16
slappy1986anybody here know how to go back to earlier kernels and such? Ithink thats the only way to get my wireless card to work05:16
pixelPOETLinLenLap, it's no bother... thats what this channels for :D05:17
LinLenLapisn't there a command to test if open gl is working?05:17
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pixelPOETusually its glxgears ;)05:17
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pixelPOETso based on that its a good assumption that yours isnt.05:17
Gevaudan82slappy1986: glxgears...if you don't see gears spinning in real time it's not working05:17
damian_hi, im just wondering where the config file for ->menu->Administration->networking is located, i enter my dns into the box to get my internet working but next boot it hasnt saved, very frustrating!05:17
kitcheSlackRat: yeah I only use a gui really is to browse the web since some pages are hard to read on links05:18
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LinLenLapOK...yeah, I see the gears turning...not sure how fast they're supposed to go, but they're moving pretty quick.05:18
Gevaudan82damian_: a number of places.../etc/network/interfaces is one05:18
LinLenLapah, glxinfo05:18
ianmacgregorI have some .mpeg's of a friends wedding. Is it possible to take these and make something that will play on a stand-alone DVD player? If so, which app(s) should I look into?05:18
EchoBinaryhello room :)05:18
Gevaudan82damian_: /etc/hosts is another05:18
LinLenLapThis is the card I have to look for the driver for, correct?05:19
LinLenLaplibGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b05:19
EchoBinaryi have a small home network of some windows boxes that i would like ot automagicaly backup to my ubuntu file server - any suggestions?05:19
LinLenLapOpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc05:19
LinLenLapOpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915GM 2005022505:19
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damian_but will these files affect gtk applications?05:19
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Xenguyianmacgregor: some players will play that already...05:19
Gevaudan82EchoBinary: if i were you i'd use acronis on the windows boxes to backup to ubuntu via samba...there's always rsync but there's a lot of complexity involved05:20
Xenguyianmacgregor: otherwise you can convert to DVD format05:20
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ianmacgregorXenguy: Mine won't :(05:20
ianmacgregorXenguy: How would I do that?05:20
EchoBinaryGevaudan82: is acronis free?05:20
SlackRatdesktops ashould be like desktops, places to lay out the work youre doing, and guis for some apps are the ideal way to work.....i dont wanna edit images on a console screen, or  play music via command line necessaryily......or code html pages in a console, thats just masochism05:20
Xenguyianmacgregor: dvdauthor will convert from mpg to dvd05:20
Gevaudan82EchoBinary: nope05:20
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ianmacgregorXenguy: Thank you05:20
Ademani tried to install k3d and it failed on the post-install-script and now trying to uninstall it it won't work either, it seems to call the post-install-script, is there any way to ignore the error it throws? or maybe to just delete it all together?05:20
Xenguyianmacgregor: I can give you some command-line if you want (that's all I have)05:21
Gevaudan82EchoBinary: it's a very well made program though..much better than synaptec's ghost05:21
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ianmacgregorXenguy: Can you pastebin the cli stuff?05:21
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Xenguyianmacgregor: ok, hang on05:21
pixelPOETLinLenLap, type that exact error into google...look through the pages that come up05:21
firebird619Is there a way to get MythTV to work with an account other than the mythtv account so I don't have to log out and in everytime I want to use it?05:22
Xenguyianmacgregor: /join flood05:22
damian_Gevaudan82 and sorry what would i enter in these files to set my dns05:23
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kitcheSlackRat: see I mostly use my linux box for java programming and ircing really05:23
Gevaudan82damian_: i can't remember honestly...know that in ubuntu if you are using dhcp you won't be able to permanently set your dns...it will default to your router...change it to static ips and then your dns sticks05:24
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Xenguyianmacgregor: talk to me05:24
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Xenguyianmacgregor: if you weren't a macgregor, I wouldn't wait this long =)05:25
damian_Gevaudan82 of course, i have recently had to reflash my modemrouter much be assigning ip's again i will do that, thanks05:25
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FarnabyArgh, i am ready to stab gnome screensaver05:26
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ianmacgregorXenguy: I"m looking into #flood. Sorry, but I have joined a channel before that auto-Klined me before and don't want to do that again. I'm a cautious person.05:27
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cyanid3I'm having issues mounting a usb hard drive in edgy.  the related dmesg is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29653/05:28
Xenguyianmacgregor: flood is quite safe05:28
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Xenguyianmacgregor: it's for flooding :-)05:29
LinLenLapThanks pixel... going through it now. At least I know it should support it. Also, I discovered through x11/xorg.config that I'm usign the right driver... now the fun part...05:29
Xenguyianmacgregor: besides, that's pretty tame behaviour for a scot, isn't it? :-)05:29
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ianmacgregorXenguy: Well, she's changed her mind now. But, thank you for the willingness to help with this.05:30
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Xenguyianmacgregor: anytime :p05:31
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Ademani tried to install k3d and it failed on the post-install-script and now trying to uninstall it it won't work either, it seems to call the post-install-script, is there any way to ignore the error it throws? or maybe to just delete it all together?05:32
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swiz /quit05:32
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Ediehowi need to cd ~/nx05:33
Gevaudan82Ademan: you mean k3b?05:33
Ediehowbut i can't do sudo cd!05:33
Gevaudan82Ediehow: if you really must enable root by typing sudo passwd root and then su -05:33
AdemanGevaudan82: actually no, k3d is a 3d software package05:33
Gevaudan82Ademan: sorry, carry on :)05:33
MadpilotEdiehow, you don't need sudo to use cd05:33
AdemanGevaudan82: hehe, i hadn't heard of it till today, and now i wish i didnt, cause it screwed up dpkg lol05:34
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EdiehowMadpilot: yes you do, if you don't have access to that person's home dir05:35
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LilandraHi! I have a question about filesystem formats05:35
MadpilotEdiehow, true, if something is set to 70005:35
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:35
Lilandraoh sorry...05:35
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Lilandrawhen i launch gparted, and i right click on a partition and select format to, there are grayed out options (like ufs). what is ufs? (is that the other format mac os x uses)  Also, how would I enable ufs? and xfs?05:36
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dieselAnyone know what happened to the XFCE composite extension in Edgy?05:37
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dibblegowhy is moving gtk windows around so clunky in 6.10 (but not 6.06)?05:37
crimsundiesel: are you referring to the Composite tab in Settings> Window Manager Tweaks?05:38
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dieselcrimsun: yes05:38
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troopaI try to install Ubuntu and the X server fails. I fix this by reconfiguring it and using the VESA driver. This starts X just fine, and I can even hear the music that the installation has. However, it seems to shut my LCD off (it just goes amber light and I can't see anything). I read some bug reports and tried commenting out some problematic modules X wants to load like they said, but nothing works.05:38
crimsundiesel: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2006-October/002243.html05:38
JavaDeveloperAnyone encounters a crash on MySQL Query Browser 1.1.17?05:39
firebird619Is there a way to get MythTV to work with an account other than the mythtv account so I don't have to log out and in everytime I want to use it?05:39
dieselcrimsun: excellent.  Thank you05:39
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dieselcrimsun: one more question, do you know why I can't use :syntax in the version of VIM in Edgy?05:40
dieselversion 7.0.3505:40
crimsundiesel: which vim packages are installed?05:40
crimsun(I use nvi, so I can't answer that)05:40
Alter-Egoare there docs for ubuntu-server ltsp5 ?05:41
slappy1986gevaudan82: they are spinning really slow i got a slow computer whats that mean?05:41
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slappy1986that has nothing to do with a wireless card working right?05:41
dieselcrimsun: your question (which vim packages) caused me to look...I apparently have vim-tiny, so I will be installing vim-full05:42
axa-axaCan someone please tell me how can I downgrade some package (in this case new 2.0 FireFox) ?05:42
Gevaudan82slappy1986: it means you don't have opengl enabled or incorrect drivers05:42
cyanid3I'm unable to mount an external usb hard drive.  Here's the `dmesg | grep usb` : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29655/05:42
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axa-axaCan someone please tell me how can I downgrade some package (in this case new 2.0 FireFox) ?05:44
pibarnasgnome-settings-manager can't record my settings... does anyone is going through this?05:44
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Gevaudan82axa-axa: just sudo apt-get remove firefox and then install the 1.5 version from source or .deb files05:44
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axa-axaGevaudan82: How can I install version 1.5 with apt-get or where can I download firefox 1.5 for Edgy Eft?05:45
Gevaudan82axa-axa: you can't without mixing repos...best bet is to install from source or using .deb files05:46
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magicnorrican anyone help me with the azureus program it wont work as standard user but works as root user05:46
axa-axaGevaudan82: but where can I find that .deb file (firefox 1.5)?05:47
SlackRatdebian or dapper repos05:47
Gevaudan82axa-axa: no clue...i'm sure it's out there somewhere05:47
mckinnojquick question: how can I find out which version of wine I have?05:47
cyanid3magnicorn did you check the permissions of the executable?05:47
mygoduanme -a05:47
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larz3mygod, apt-get install tomcat505:47
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JavaDeveloperwhere's the command Traceroute in ubuntu now? I can't seem to find it05:48
larz3JavaDeveloper, you need to install it05:48
user-landmagicnorry, try deleting the azureus files in your home dir.05:49
JavaDeveloperlarz3: alright...05:49
larz3JavaDeveloper, apt-get install traceroute05:49
JavaDeveloperlarz3: thans05:49
Legendrehi.. need help. What must I do, to install 6.10 from a USB key?05:49
fatliphow do i switch firefox's default player to vlc?05:49
fatlipi nee dthe vlc plugin, dont i05:49
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Gevaudan82fatlip: download the mediaplayerconnectivity plugin for firefox...your problems are solved05:49
coastermasterso if I install the kubuntu-desktop package while I'm in ubuntu, I can switch between GNOME and KDE as I please?05:50
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fatlipdone and done05:50
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fatlipthank ya :)05:50
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RobNycMasseR, whats up05:52
LegendreAnyone? Install 6.10 EE from a bootable USB flash drive?05:52
rellisThe copy of perl ditributed with ubuntu 6.06 was not compiled with gcc?05:52
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LegendreI'm trying to use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick but it 'taint workin05:53
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Legendreassume that this method has problems with 6.10?05:53
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jerpI'm having troubles gaining privileges to copying a patch on a game in my file sys.05:54
Legendrejerp = and sudo su - root doesn't do it?05:54
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magicnorriuser-land it failed05:54
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jerpI didn't know about sudo su ...I only used sudo05:55
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jerplet me try that05:55
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Legendretry on a fresh line: sudo su - root05:55
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Legendreyou will become root, then do the work.. and get back out of root asap05:55
Legendre*and then get back out05:55
mcquaidI know someone had a rep containing flash9 and some other stuff, but I can't find it now.  Is there a thread tracking all the users repositories?05:55
chris86wmim trying to use gnomebaker to burn a cd but it fails everytime i attempt to burn. could anyone help me?05:56
mcquaidit would be great if ubuntu had an equiv to apt-get.org/search for unofficial stuff05:56
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chris86wmim using an inspiron 6000 and edgy05:56
ebateschris86wm: fails how?05:56
Legendrechris -I'd just like to install edgy =/05:56
chris86wmebates, i tell it to make an iso, it makes a funny noise and tells me that it has failed05:57
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chris86wmi assume the funny noise the "burn failed" sound05:57
ebateschris86wm: lol...not much to go on, eh?05:57
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sanmarcoswhy the fuck when I close apps I loose the paste buffer, this is 2006..05:58
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botxjnaughty naughty05:58
botxjlanguage language sanmarcos :P05:58
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:58
jerb_god darn it05:59
Gevaudan82my family curses like sailors05:59
Lathiatsanmarcos: There are solutions for that.05:59
botxjarrrrrrr ye matey05:59
jerplegendre, my command is cp -R <old location of files> <new location of files>  ???05:59
Lathiatsamiam: i dont think any fo them are standard in gnome yet05:59
siganyone know the engine name that gnome uses or comes default with ubuntu?05:59
sanmarcos!language > botxj05:59
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Legendrejerp = sudo su is run by itself.. on a fresh commandline, type 'sudo su - root'05:59
botxj!language > sanmarcos05:59
botxjtake that citizen sanmarcos!06:00
Legendreonce you are root, then do the work.06:00
Lathiatsig: metacity is the window manager that draws the borders are windows06:00
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Lathiatsig: gtk is what draws the window parts06:00
sanmarcos!language > botxj06:00
jerpI did that and got root then ran that command and got a "cp: cannot stat"06:00
FarnabyOk, WTF, I can't even change the screen saver to a blank screen06:00
botxjleviathan, why must you tempt me with your language warnings06:00
botxji call bot abuse on that!06:01
LathiatFarnaby: on ubuntu? I have a blank screen option?06:01
botxjpsych no i dont06:01
LathiatFarnaby: system->preferences->screensaver preferences ---- first item06:01
Legendrejerp = err.. then there is some other issue, not related to perms.06:01
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Legendrejerp - sounds like your cp command is malformed, something wrong with the path(s)06:01
chris86wmah ha! i have to run gnomebaker as root06:02
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chris86wmthat kinda sucks though06:02
jerplet me see06:02
ebateschris86wm: you do?06:02
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Legendrechris86wm - that is odd.. but typical linux thingy.06:02
chris86wmran "sudo gnomebaker" and now its burning06:02
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techrushi just installed the package "rubybook" using synaptic.....where is this book located ?06:02
Lathiattechrush: probably /usr/share/doc/rubybook06:02
chris86wmi dont want to do a sudo in terminal everytime i want to run gnomebaker though06:03
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sanmarcoschris86wm: dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord06:03
ebatesyeah, that is odd06:03
sanmarcoschris86wm: suid it06:03
mister_robototechrush: do "dpkg -L <pkg-name>" to see the files associated with an installed package06:03
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Legendreso, I ask again: how can I set up, to boot ubuntu & install to HD, from a USB stick?06:04
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user-landmagicnorri, because you once started it as root. delete the folder with sudo.06:04
Legendrethe community page isn't working for me..06:04
FarnabyLathiat, I have tried that, more then once. Its stuck on BioF06:05
wheelswitchLegendre:  do you know how to make your computer boot from usb?06:05
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Legendrewheelswitch - yes, that is all OK.. problem is, syslinux can't find the kernel / initrd and so on.06:05
chris86wmsanmarcos, didnt work06:05
Legendrewheelswitch - followed all the instructions to a 'T'06:06
Farnabysorry lathiat, went to smoke to try and get a bit less pissed off.06:06
Legendrewheelswitch - is the method broken for 6.10?06:06
sanmarcoschris86wm: you have to relogin, if it doenst, then tough shit, have fun06:06
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wheelswitchnot sure06:06
wheelswitchi have only done it on 6.0406:06
sanmarcoschris86wm: read about unix permissions, and udev (good luck with that, udev, hah)06:06
wheelswitchi used this guide: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php?title=Ubuntu_USB_Install06:06
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FarnabyThis is actually turning into more of an irritatnt then the fact that I have lost so much multimedia support...06:07
Legendrewheelswitch - I've been working from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick06:08
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Legendrewheelswitch - thing is, I may have made an error.. when I copied the ubuntu cd over to the flash drive, I used -Rvpd06:08
Legendreand I'm starting to wonder if -d messed me up..06:09
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Legendresince you can't deref (ie create) symlinks onto FAT16 filesystems06:09
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Legendrehm, how does that work anyway? if you cp a symlink onto a fat volume?06:10
draremwhat's the command to return free and used disk space06:11
Legendredf -h06:11
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FarnabyAnybody else have any ideas for how to fix gnomescreensaver when its stuck on one setting (and the setting doesn't work)06:11
highnekodf -hT to show filesystem too.06:11
kupesoftIs there a sendmail replacement that just takes emails and sends them from another place via smtp?06:11
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towsonu2003drarem, I love a tool called baobab, which shows you what is occupying how much space in filesystems you specify. just noting :)06:11
Gevaudan82kupesoft: not sure if i understand your question but postfix is generally considered to be the replacement for sendmail06:11
rawrnessIs it possable to make a window Vmmachine with a emachine recovery disk06:12
draremok i'll check it out06:12
Legendrekupesoft - sendmaill.conf got you down? :)06:12
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aster have ubuntu and installed xfce-desktop now06:12
asterhow to remove gnome-desktop??06:13
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ArrenLexaster: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce06:13
FarnabyI guess nobody else has any ideas06:13
Farnabyall of this just to get gnomepilot working06:13
LegendreFarnaby - what is gnomepilot, btw?06:14
knapperI'm having trouble removing drivers I installed using Nvidia's installer, anyone want to bite?06:14
rawrnessgag Nvidia drivers06:14
rawrnessevilness I tell you06:14
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knapperWhen I replace nv with nvidia it says cannot initialize glx. When I install nvidia-glx and replace nv with nvidia, it says version mismatch06:15
Farnabylegendre, gnomepilot is for palm pilots06:15
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LegendreFarnaby - ok. I always used Jpilot for that06:15
knapperhow can I get rid of all of it and just install nvidia-glx06:15
ArrenLexknapper: If you installed from official nvidia package, will it suffice to run "/usr/bin/nvidia-installer --uninstall"?06:16
Farnabylegendre, gnomepilot is tied into evolution better from what I understand06:16
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LegendreFarnaby - ah, ok.. I've never been a real gnome/evo user.06:17
LegendreI use sylpheed mostly06:17
knapperhmm arrenlex, I will try that.06:18
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Farnabyunfortunatly it has borked my screensaver (which i suspect means some issues involving my video card which I cna't remember) and it has totally fubared any and all multimedia support06:19
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FarnabyI take that back, not any and all, but AVI and MP3 are gone06:20
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LegendreFarnaby - ick =/06:20
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FarnabyI am really getting midly pissed about it. I have no desire to do another reinstall06:22
pibarnasgnome-settings-manager can't record my settings... does anyone is going through this?06:22
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donfilipoanyone can tell how to enable XGL in Edgy i have heart it should be easy06:23
^Ocean^apt0get install beryl06:23
^Ocean^and emerald06:23
knapperOk, that uninstalled the nvidia driver, but it's still borked. I get error Nvidia kernel couldn't load. Module Nvidia not found.06:23
knapperThis after I have installed nvidia-glx.06:23
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^Ocean^knapper, you need to install the restricted kernel modules for ur kernal06:24
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^Ocean^or you can install the nvidia drivers from there website06:24
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rawrnessI am just reinstalling :p cause of my drivers06:24
rawrnessand KDE and GNome not liking each other06:24
^Ocean^no they dont lol06:24
rpk180I upgraded to edgy a few days ago.  Everything went smoothly.  However, emacs looks terrible now -- the font seems smaller and harder to read.  Any suggestions on how to go about making it look good again?06:25
rawrnessI have got KDM runing in gnome thought :P06:25
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rawrnessUse the Bleeper instead!06:25
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Adammki run linux on my laptop and want to run a linux program (Amarok) on my Windows Xp desktop computer. how should i do this? is Cgywin the best solution?06:26
FarnabyI also seem to keep getting a number of sleeping biof processes06:26
rawrnessAnyways i want to make a vmware machine for my windows06:26
LegendreAdammk - is there a cygwin port of Amarok?06:26
knapper^Ocean^ ok, well I don't find them in the repository. uname -r = 2.6.17-10-38606:26
knapper2.6.15 is what I find06:27
knapperor is it linux-restricted-modules-386?06:27
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lrephi, where does the c header files get installed in ubuntu?06:27
rawrnessbut i don't got a windows install disk06:27
lrepi've installed the kernel source already06:27
rawrnessjust a emachine sys restore06:27
kitchelrep: it's looking for the linux-headers06:28
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lrepkitche, come again.06:28
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Adammki don't think so. i'm currently trying to compile from source, but it says "The important program kde-config was not found" any idea where to get this? I've tryed to install kdebase, but oddly it says the same thing06:29
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kitchelrep: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.17-1006:29
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LegendreAdammk - you're in tough shape.06:29
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knapperWhat repository can I find linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386?06:30
lrepkitche, i'm installing vmware and it asked me for the C header files...do i still need to get the linux-headers?06:30
ArrenLexAdammk: do you have kdebase-dev installed?06:30
mohaghna111hi guys06:30
AdammkLegendre: i'd really *like* to get amarok to work on windows...06:30
LegendreAdammk - Amarok must dep on KDE stuff.. not a happy situation for cygwin.06:30
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kitchelrep: they are the same thing06:30
ubotulinux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386: Non-free Linux 2.6.17 modules on 386. In component restricted, is optional. Version (edgy), package size 7701 kB, installed size 20892 kB06:30
AdammkLegendre: yep it does say Amarok is for KDE06:31
LegendreI haven't done much cygwin in the last few years, but that situation sounds fairly unworkable to me.06:31
ArrenLexAdammk: Amarok does not and will never work on Windows. The developers have blankly refused to port it.06:31
Adammkdang it06:31
Legendreyou'd need to have the whole required KDE framework built for a cygwin environment.06:31
lrep okay kitche where are the headers stored?06:31
rawrnessAmarok works real buggy in gnome06:31
lrep/usr/src/linux/include ?06:31
rawrnessMine don't even dock :P06:31
knapperArrenLex: Check amarok's website. They said in the latest news entry that a windows port will be released soon.06:32
kitchelrep: you can point vmware there as well06:32
Legendrenothlit - lol. that's just wrong..06:32
rawrnesswindow port ummmm06:32
lrepkitche, that's where vmware is looking for...but there's nothing there06:32
ArrenLexOh. Wow, I guess I was wrong. Sorry, carry on. xd06:33
lrepkitche, i'm trying to locate the files so ican tell vmware where to use them06:33
kitchelrep yes install the linux-headers but the dev package06:33
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nothlitwhy can't you just aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`06:34
SinnerGHow do I create a patch like oldfolder > newfolder  anyone knows?06:34
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knapperAdammk, ArrenLex: amarok.kde.com: "Amarok 2 will be based on QT4/KDE4 and will finally feature a Windows port, so for those of you that must use Windows, you will finally be able to have your rok and eat it too."06:34
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ArrenLexknapper: yes, I saw it06:34
knapperI think its terrible06:34
magicnorriuser-land cannot rm directory06:34
Adammkknapper: cool but i'll try anyway in the meantime06:35
nothlitHow far is QT4/KDE4 away anyways06:35
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ArrenLexnothlit: Maybe Q3 2007?06:35
Gumbywhy is it terrible to have a linux app ported to windows?06:35
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nothlitArrenLex, ahh, ty06:36
Gumbyjust cause a person uses windows doesnt mean they should have to be a slave to iTunes and Windows Media06:36
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Rappermashey, are the repos broken again?06:36
LegendreGumby - it's not.. but trying to make windows into a KDE friendly envirnoment sounds like self-abuse.06:36
Rappermascompiz won't install on edgy06:37
nothlitGumby, i don't think its the porting that is so horrible, look at gaim/gimp/inkscape... but the idea of the necessity to port linux apps to windows is06:37
Rappermassays dependencies are missing06:37
LegendreI mean, KDE can't even get along with a lot of shiat on Linux.. and that's all open API :)06:37
dabaRYeah the repos are down06:37
ChippyRappermas: I had the same problem, so I just installed beryl :)06:37
GumbyLegendre:  its not kde, its amarok that is being ported06:37
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RappermasChippy: ok, i'll bite, how do i get beryl?06:37
Rappermasso i get a brand new card to use XGL and the repos are down, somehow, i'm not surprised06:38
ChippyRappermas: that depends.  jump into the #ubuntu-xgl and I'll help you out there06:38
lrepkitche, ok thanks i got it06:38
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nothlitRappermas, depends on your hardware and whether you want xgl or aixgl06:38
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Gumbynothlit: if anything, it will make more people realize that they are slaves to MS and Apple and that there are alternatives out there.06:38
magicnorrican anyone tell me how to delete a hidden directory06:38
GumbyI say good on the Amarok people for doing it.06:38
pibarnasgnome-settings-manager can't record my settings on Edgy... can you help me?!?06:38
Adammksorry, i tried to convince my family to use ubuntu on our main household computer, but they like windows cause they know (for the most part) how to use it06:38
Gumbymagicnorri: rm -Rf .directory06:38
Rav|stranglerRappermas, v06:38
magicnorrithank you06:38
fignewXGL = :( ... aiglx = :)06:39
nothlitGumby, the problem is people don't really realise that a lot of programs can be run from linux or were originally from...06:39
Gumbymagicnorri: assuming you have permissions to do so06:39
Rav|stranglerRappermas, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12709006:39
ChippyRav|strangler: he disappeared :)06:39
Gumbynothlit: when they visit the downloads page for the application they just might06:39
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knapperWhat repository can I find linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386?06:40
Rav|stranglerohhh lag06:40
Rappermassee this is why i'm asking06:40
Rappermasxgl just crashed on me06:40
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Rappermaslol that's fun06:40
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Rav|stranglerdid you try ubuntu-xgl06:40
Rav|strangleror wait06:40
LegendreI'll ask again: Anyone have success using a USB flash drive as install media?06:40
Rappermasyeah i just joined06:40
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Rav|stranglerih oh ok06:41
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Rappermashopefully, i won't crash again06:41
Rav|stranglerI didnt get much help06:41
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Legendrethe CD on my lappy is flaked out, and I need to install from a USB stick.06:41
Rav|stranglerI didnt get it working on my ati laptop06:41
nothlitGumby, yes, but to tell people don't really see what they aren't looking for. i was ecstatic to find that almost all m essential applications could run on linux, but it didn't really happen until i was already burning install/livecds06:41
Rav|stranglerI'm going to try on my dekstop tomorrow06:41
towsonu2003Legendre, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 maybe can help06:41
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nothlitLegendre, i thinks theres a guide to it, i'll look for it06:42
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Gumbynothlit: I understand.  My only point really is that I cant see how a linux based app ported to windows is a bad thing as long as its a full featured application and not a stripped down POS.  I find it especially good because of the lack of applications, good or bad, that windows users have to use for audio.  I've used iTunes,  I dont understand how people put up with it.06:43
towsonu2003nothlit, I just posted an ubuntuforums link above :)06:43
boni!edgy eft06:43
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)06:43
Legendrenothlit - the community guide is not working for me..06:43
azurealhi, ubuntu server edition is REGPARM or NOREGPARM?06:43
towsonu2003Gumby, I'm just jumping in, but porting linux apps to windows actually makes switching much easier for users: it gives you common apps so you're familiar to some degree06:44
nothlittowsonu2003, ahh kk06:44
Legendretowsonu2003 - I don't want ubuntu installed to the flash drive.. I want to boot from the flash drive, and install onto the HD.06:44
bonihi everyone06:44
DarkMageZGumby, i love iTunes, cept for the iPod handling... sure it works, but it's annoying06:45
threat2what ales you boni?06:45
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towsonu2003Legendre, what about this http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php?title=Ubuntu_USB_Install06:46
nothlitLegendre, oh, well I'm not really familiar with that sort of installation, are you trying towsonu2003 's link?06:46
DarkMageZGumby, what media player do you use?06:46
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nothlitGumby, what are your opinions on winamp and foobar06:46
ubotuping: connection timeout06:46
azurealhow can i tell if my kernel is REGPARM or NOREGPARM...?06:46
MicrosoftSpyDoes anyone know how you put the speaker icon back on the app bar ? I tried right clicking and add but it doesnt seem to be there06:47
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rpk180Does anyone have emacs21 installed in 6.10?  Does it look crappy in X-windows for you too?  Any ideas on how to make it look good again?06:47
Farnabywow, now I have a whole new problem, and its a biggy06:47
kitcheMicrosoftSpy: add your mixer app back to the panel06:47
MicrosoftSpyAhhh thatd do it kitchie :) Thanks bud06:47
towsonu2003MicrosoftSpy, Add>volume control -that's what you're looking for06:48
Farnaby... I did a restart and now its saying that xserver is not configged properly and then it dumps me to a command line06:48
nothlitMicrosoftSpy, you couldn't re-add the applet?06:48
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towsonu2003how many ghosts did you have, lol06:49
MicrosoftSpynoth..nope how do you reconfigure sound ?06:49
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unfoFarnaby, what changes did you make since your last reboot?06:49
MicrosoftSpyappart from system prefs sound06:49
rpk180I tried doing a "dpkg-reconfigure emacs21", but it didn't help...06:49
unfoFarnaby,  e.g. what new stuff did you install / change? :)06:49
nothlitFarnaby, have you looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?06:50
unfoBin, hello :)06:50
FarnabyThats a very good question but i can't tell you since I can't even really seem to login06:50
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Gumbynothlit: I havnt used winamp for ages and Ive never heard of foobar.  Winamp used to be good before AOL bought it.  AFter that it just became bloated06:50
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unfoBin, you probably should change your nickname. type: /nick NICKNAME06:50
unfochoose a good nick for your NICKNAME.06:51
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nothlitGumby, AOL is evil06:51
GumbyDarkMageZ: I use Amarok06:51
MicrosoftSpyAnyone know how to get ubuntu to redetect sound ?06:51
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Farnabyall it really does is dump me to a flashing curser and nothing seems to work06:51
towsonu2003Legendre, be careful not to bork your grub by the way06:51
Gumbynothlit: no kidding.  The took a great simple media player and made it into something just awful06:51
nothlitFarnaby, i thought you said you were dumped into a command line06:51
unfoPoseidon, so now you're in IRC for the first time :) this is where many people discuss Ubuntu. and there is stuff both in English and in Chinese.06:52
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk06:52
unfoPoseidon: :-)06:52
FarnabyI thought I was at first now I am not so sure.06:52
Poseidonoh thanks06:52
unfoFarnaby, you have no clue what you changed?06:52
DarkMageZGumby, thought so :) there seems to be some sort of split. some peoples minds work one way, the others the other way.06:52
unfoPoseidon, but stay here :)06:52
towsonu2003MicrosoftSpy, sudo alsaconf maybe? but that's maybe! and probably incorrect. are you sure you can't add the volume control applet to the panel (right click on panel > add > volume control)06:52
nothlitGumby, oh foobar is supposed to be the serious audio app or something its pretty customisable and can grab direct control of the sound card before windows sound mixer remixes it06:52
GumbyDarkMageZ: try AMarok for two weeks then go back t iTunes, I bet you'll hate it then :)06:53
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Farnabyunfo, I re-ran xserver-xorg (which is the root of my problem i am sure)06:53
nothlitGumby, more serious audio codec support and stuff06:53
Gumbynothlit: cool06:53
unfoFarnaby, i agree. :-) what does re-ran mean?06:53
DarkMageZGumby, i had Amarok for a month06:53
orangedanyone having pgp errors when apt-get update is run?06:53
MicrosoftSpytowsonu: Yeah when i try to add the volume control it returns 'the panel encountered a problem when loading OFAIID GNOME_MixerApplet'06:53
towsonu2003Farnaby, unfo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I guess?06:54
nothlitFarnaby, are you saying you have two instances of Xorg open?06:54
DarkMageZGumby, some people are iTunes/rhythmbox people. others are ?/Amarok people06:54
Farnabyunfo, it had misdetected some stuff on the autodetect, namely the fact that some graphics where borked06:54
Farnabytowsonu2003 yes06:54
Farnabynothlit, I have 0 instances open06:54
GumbyDarkMageZ: I guess so.  rhythmbox and iTunes just seem so limited to me06:54
Poseidonare you often be here unfo?06:54
nothlitDoes anyone have an opinion on Songbird? the new mozilla app?06:54
Adammkguys, Legendre, ArrenLex, knapper, nothlit, it still says "The important program kde-config was not found"06:54
unfoPoseidon, not here in #ubuntu, but sometimes in #debian or #debian-devel06:54
unfoI am a big debian fan.06:55
Gumbyanyhow, its time to pack and see if everything fit into my travel pack. heading to Perth in 5 days.  woohoo!!06:55
unfoGumby, cool06:55
nothlitAdammk, a console doesnt have a cursor, anyways... ctrl+alt+f1      aptitude show kde-config06:55
nomasteryodanothlit, i have used songbird, but its not fast enough for my use...06:55
threat2Gumby: woot06:55
unfooranged, apt-get uses pgp to verify that all your packages were downloaded ok and not tampered with06:55
DarkMageZGumby, limited?06:55
threat2Gumby: say hi to quantumn for me06:55
unfooranged, but pgp does not always work perfectly :-)06:55
unfooranged, I would ignore the errors.06:55
unfoPoseidon, did you try installing ubuntu?06:56
Poseidonnot yet06:56
PoseidonI have something to do06:56
unfoPoseidon, you said you wanted to learn more, and that's the first step to it :)06:56
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unfoyou mean something else to do?06:57
Adammknothlit: Cgywin is pretty basic, it says aptitude isn't a command06:57
orangedunfo; it actually completely screws using automatix..06:57
Poseidonfor instance HTML06:57
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Poseidonor c++06:57
unfooranged, i don't know much about automatix.06:57
nothlitAdammk, oh yeah sorry, you're in cygwin06:57
orangedunfo,  Internal error: Good signature, but could not determine key fingerprint?!06:57
unfoPoseidon, you mean for school?06:57
MicrosoftSpyHmmm alsaconf not found you sure thats the right command ?06:57
orangedunfo, its still not something i'd like to ignore06:57
unfooranged, i would see if it's a known bug in automatix.06:57
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DarkMageZoranged, automatrix is not supported, and seriously disliked by the ubuntu devs. try a clean install of the system06:58
orangedunfo, i've been in #automatix discussing the problem.. it seems to be a problem with gpg06:58
Adammkany ideas?06:58
unfooranged, check for bug reports in launchpad and/or at the automatix site.06:58
unfoDarkMageZ, I heard that automatix is now dpkg-based.06:58
Poseidonno exactly   I am interest in that06:58
nothlitLegendre, did you make sure your usb drive either supports usb-hdd or usb-zip?06:59
orangedunfo, already done. :)06:59
unfoPoseidon, a good way to learn C++ is to install Ubuntu. it comes with a C++ compiler easily available.06:59
MicrosoftSpyAnyone know how to reconfigure sound ?06:59
Farnabywe will see if this fixes things... I can only hope06:59
crimsunMicrosoftSpy: in what sense?06:59
orangedunfo, it really has more to do with gpg then automatix. ;)06:59
rawrnessHow can i make windows work in vmware?06:59
DarkMageZunfo, i've been suspecting that as well. but the ubuntu devs still say it's bad. i might nuke a testbox with it laterz06:59
unforawrness, easy, just stick in the Windows CD-ROM when VMware is booting.07:00
MicrosoftSpycrim when i try to add the volume control it returns 'the panel encountered a problem when loading OFAIID GNOME_MixerApplet'. I tried deleting the sound card from the hardware list but it wont let me do it07:00
orangedDarkMageZ, why do ubuntu devs think its bad?07:00
threat2MicrosoftSpy: your secret is safe with me07:00
unfoDarkMageZ, good plan.07:00
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jon_Can someone help, how do I found out what services are running in ubunutu?07:00
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Farnabywhich makes typig hard07:01
DarkMageZoranged, it used to break systems, i can't verify if it still does07:01
MicrosoftSpythreat...Thanks bud :) will be sure to let the the big B know07:01
unfojon_: why are you curious? :)07:01
Poseidonoh really !!?as a matter of fact ,I am not familiar with Linux Cmd.07:01
threat2jon_: netstat -l07:01
threat2jon_: ps aux07:01
Gevaudan82jon_: ps -e07:01
crimsunMicrosoftSpy: what do you mean by "add the volume control"?07:01
FarnabyBloody hell07:01
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jon_I'm curious, as I can't get an ircd to let incoming connections in, but as far as I was aware I had no firewall07:01
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orangedDarkMageZ, it hasn't broken anything on this fresh install.. just apt refuses to install packages it can't verify07:01
MicrosoftSpycrimsum: Right click on task bar to add the volume control to the task bar07:02
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chuckyp!iptables > jon_07:02
unfoPoseidon, you do not have to know any commands. you can use the Anjuta IDE. it lets you click a button to compile your code.07:02
ixian_has anyone tried easyubuntu on ubuntu 6.10? does it work?07:02
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unfoixian_, check the website for updates :)07:02
chuckypixian_, its not recomended or supported here07:02
jon_chuckyp, yes I've allowed all the relevent ports through iptables and there are no rejected ports, but still no luck07:02
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MicrosoftSpyixian_: I use automatix and it seems to work ok, but alot of folks don't seem to like it07:02
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ (currently down!); for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.07:02
nothlitjon_, ubuntu doesn't come default with a firewall enabled, to check services theres system -> administration -> services for a "safety" sort of stupid users service management, or you can install the package bum (boot up manager)07:03
Poseidonok I will try it07:03
jon_I will have a look, thanks07:03
unfoixian_, easyubuntu is supported in the easyubuntu channel :)07:03
ixian_i was asking if anyone here has actually tried it.07:03
crimsunMicrosoftSpy: so there's no volume icon already?07:03
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sethkMicrosoftSpy, it has a habit of breaking things.  Considered more dangerous.  Nevertheless can be useful.07:03
Poseidonwhat about Visual studio2005  Unfo?07:03
Gevaudan82jon_: if you want a firewall install firestarter or guarddog if your needs are basic...for advanced configuration with a gui use webmin07:04
unfoPoseidon, doesnt work on Linux.07:04
iloveubunutanyone good at troubleshooting sound?07:04
unfoPoseidon, linux has Anjuta and Emacs.07:04
rawrnessunfo:  Don't have a windows install cd07:04
unfoiloveubunut, just ask :)07:04
unforawrness, get Vista Beta 2.07:04
RancidLMubuntu looks bad at 1680x1050  is there a way to fix the fonts for this resolution i would really like to utilize the full  resolution of this monitor?07:04
MicrosoftSpycrimsun: Nope Under system->Pref-> sound I cant seem to get it to set sound capture back to auto....dunno what I did to it07:04
LathiatRancidLM: whats "bad" about it?07:04
iloveubunutjust got 6.10 and I have no sound =(07:04
rawrnessunfo: Don't think my computer could run bista07:04
threat2Poseidon: there is mono, but it is only .NET 2003, not 200507:04
LathiatRancidLM: you can turn the DPI up if thast what you mean07:04
unforawrness, :(07:04
LathiatRancidLM: system->preferneces->fonts ---> advanced07:04
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rawrnessSTupid shitty emachine07:05
jon_I don't want a firewall, I want to be able to allow incoming connections from the internet, the program is set up correctly as it runs fine on my other box (not ubunutu) but it won't on ubuntu, any ideas?07:05
ubotuircd: IRC Server daemon - dummy package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 36 kB07:05
Gevaudan82jon_: do you have a hardware router/firewall?07:05
unforawrness, are you at a college or university with MSDNAA?07:05
jon_nope, and I'm runnning unbuntu 5.0407:05
MicrosoftSpyjon_ you can still run a firewall and allow incoming connections you just gotta configure it correctly07:05
jon_it's just my Modem from comp to wall thing07:05
chuckypjon_, do you have a broadband router or something?07:05
RancidLMLathiat: u "L" pritty much disapear.. and the text is very distorted07:05
unfoPoseidon, Anjuta is easy and powerful, and Emacs is difficult but ultra-powerful.07:05
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jon_no it's a cable modem07:05
Poseidonthreat2   what's the meaning of mono07:05
LathiatRancidLM: hrm.. weird.07:05
LathiatRancidLM: i dont have that problem onh my 1680x1050 screen07:06
towsonu2003MicrosoftSpy, okay I think I found something here... first: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, try if it works, if not try this: launch synaptic, search for gnome-applets and gnome-applets-data - I found this here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25259.html07:06
chuckypjon_, just make sure in your cable modem config that the ports are forwarded for ircd is all.07:06
LathiatRancidLM: or is that the incorrect resolutions for your display?07:06
unfojon_: does 5.04 still get security updates?07:06
threat2Poseidon: it is the name of an IDE for C#07:06
RancidLMLathiat: u using vga cords? or dvi?07:06
chuckypunfo, not anymore.07:06
Lathiatunfo: no, 5.04 is hoary which is EOL07:06
MicrosoftSpythanks tow....will try07:06
LathiatRancidLM: thats in a laptop actually07:06
unfoLathiat, ah07:06
jon_unfo, I don't know lol =P07:06
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unfoJon_, it is risky to run end-of-lifed old versions.07:06
LathiatRancidLM: probably dvi equivalent07:06
RancidLMLathiat: hmm i wounder if its because im going analog back to digital.. hmm07:07
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jon_chuckyp, how can I do that? there's no router or anything so I'm unsure. Is it a ubuntu program?07:07
threat2Poseidon: for firewall there is a program named firestarter, it is a frontend for iptables, it is good07:07
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towsonu2003MicrosoftSpy, okay I just saw I posted missing info heheh after searching for the packages, reinstall them :)07:07
jon_how do I forward the ports?07:07
rawrnessunfo: nope just at home07:07
MicrosoftSpytow: yep will read da URL :)07:07
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unforawrness, how do you feel about spending $30-$50 online for Win98 or Windows NT 4?07:08
rawrnessSo I take it i am fucked and have to continue dual booting?07:08
nmzis there no 'more advanced' audio control? master equilizer, etc.07:08
unforawrness, ah, you need to set up physical disk access.07:08
towsonu2003here's the google search i did: http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=GNOME+Mixer+Applet+OAFIID&spell=107:08
jon_any ideas chuckyp or unfo?07:08
unforawrness, go to irc.efnet.org channel #vmware and ask how to use /dev/hda1 as your VMWare HDD07:08
towsonu2003MicrosoftSpy, here's the google search i did: http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=GNOME+Mixer+Applet+OAFIID&spell=1 , in case you need to check out more links there07:08
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unfojon_, maybe ask in channel ##networking07:09
puppyhi , i want to add the ubunyu Cd to apt/sources - how do i do that?07:09
chuckypjon_, you would have to look at the directions for your cable modem.  Try navigating your browser to for the config or possibly  depends on the router.  But it could blocking certain ports.07:09
Jruaguys I am facing a problem in efgy, when i use gdesklets it utilizes the whole memory.. is this a bug07:09
Jruaguys I am facing a problem in efgy, when i use gdesklets it utilizes the whole memory..07:09
Jrua          is this a bug07:09
chuckyp!easycources > puppy07:09
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jon_ok thankyou chuckyp, I'll have a look07:09
crimsunMicrosoftSpy: first, does sound actually work in any app?07:09
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unfoPoseidon, try anjuta. it's quite good. :)07:10
unfodo you have a computer you can install Ubuntu on?07:10
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unfoJon_, or maybe
iterwhy is automatix "07:11
iterseriously disliked by the devs"07:11
threat2Poseidon: yes07:11
puppychuckyp, what do u mean?07:11
threat2Poseidon: apt-get install firestarter to install it07:11
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omacjon: what kind of router have you got?  after connecting your router to the modem, did you do /etc/init.d/networking restart?07:12
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PoseidonNo I dont know what should i do07:12
jon_omac, it auto recognised it and I don't have router, it's a cable modem07:12
nmzautomatix is what?07:12
chuckyp!easysources | puppy07:12
ubotupuppy: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:12
itersee I don't really buy that07:12
Poseidonuse  vm?07:12
towsonu2003iter, it causes problems with dist-upgrades, and also it had issues with licensing and security, but I dont think they "seriously" dislike it. at worst, they don't do it :)07:12
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ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.07:13
unfojon_, ask in channel ##networking for help with finding out if your cable modem has a router built in. they can help you use a traceroute tool to find out.07:13
unfoPoseidon, no, use dual-boot.07:13
towsonu2003iter, it seems this channel doesn't like it though :)))07:13
unfoPoseidon, do you have a laptop?07:13
iter00:58 < DarkMageZ> oranged, automatrix is not supported, and seriously disliked by the ubuntu devs. try a clean install of the system07:13
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omacjon: what is the manufacturer and model name and number of your cable modem?07:14
iterright but for what reason07:14
puppyubotu, thanks07:14
ubotuThanks for the help!07:14
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DarkMageZiter, cause it has a reputation for breaking systems07:14
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DarkMageZiter, a well deserved rep. things might have changed in the newer versions tho07:14
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RancidLMthe ubuntu startup screen doesn't work with my lcd mointor after grub loads it just goes blank until gdm loads.. the only way currently to see if things are loading correctly is to remove "splash" from loading my kernel  how do i enable splash on a lcd monitor?07:14
iterI would argue that the population using automatix is prone to breakage07:14
PoseidonI am just afraid it is not steady  My laptop is a bad07:15
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chuckypiter, it is a hacked way of installing stuff that is very to easy to install without even using it.   If you check out the wiki or the desktop guide you will be able to get everything going without using it.07:15
unfoPoseidon, what does "a bad" mean?07:15
iterchuckyp: how is it hacked07:15
fatlipi lost the link to flash 9 beta07:15
iterit installs everything the debian way07:15
chuckypiter, hacked up way of doing it.07:15
khaije1a philosophical question, for a personal use server does the extra testing of dapper outweigh the progress made with edgy?07:15
Jruaanyone understood my problem07:15
omacTonight, I managed to try xdvdshrink on Edgy Eft, after installing dvdread and doing a ./install.sh for the css.  DVD was ripped, resized and burned in 32minutes :)07:15
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iterchuckyp: a shell script is 'hacked' ?07:15
chuckypiter, it downloads source for some packages and others it apt-gets from non ubuntu repositories07:15
unfofatlip, why do you want flash9?07:15
omacEft rocks!07:15
Poseidonit dose't work well07:16
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fatlipso i can watch flash videos? lol07:16
Jruaguys I am facing a problem in edgy, when i use gdesklets it utilizes the whole memory.. is this a bug ?07:16
iterchuckyp: as opposed to using apt-get ?07:16
fatlipit was working well on my old install07:16
itergoing to be hitting same repos w/that07:16
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iteryeah beryl is so pretty07:16
rawrnessberyl is very pretty07:16
iterI love mousewheel near edge of screen07:16
khaije1MicrosoftSpy: definitely!07:16
omacDVDrip on Edgy Eft has no issues after installing libdvdread and then doing the ./install.sh for the css also :)07:16
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towsonu2003khaije1, I would use Dapper for a server... well, I would use Debian stable for a server, but thats just me :)07:16
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chuckypiter, NON UBUNTU REPOS is the key portion.  Anytime you are installing third party software from different sources you may have problems upgrading or dist-upgrading in the future.  Its just not recomended if you want a better explaination please just search the forums.  Its been discussed to death.07:17
Poseidonbut it is fine with me to do something with windows system07:17
khaije1towsonu2003: is yr nick refering to TU in maryland?07:17
iterchuckyp: please show me an ubuntu repo for flas07:17
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)07:17
iteror java07:17
iteror nvidia07:17
towsonu2003khaije1, yes07:17
iterI mean cmon07:17
PoseidonI know07:17
khaije1towsonu2003: i went to school there, are you still a student?07:17
towsonu2003khaije1, I just couldn't come up with seomthing better :)07:17
Jruaguys I am facing a problem in edgy, when i use gdesklets it utilizes the whole memory.. is this a bug ?07:17
chuckypiter, look in your sources list07:17
unfoubotu, dualboot is <reply>Dual boot instructions for AMD64-based PCs:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)07:18
towsonu2003khaije1, nope, graduated. but got stuck with the nick :p07:18
pc22how do i make a pedal work. im a transcriber http://www.nch.com.au/software/linux.html07:18
iterchuckyp: why, never installed automatix07:18
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unfopc22, what software are you using?07:18
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iterchuckyp: but I have added repos to get all the normal stuff working07:18
Poseidonwhy not use VM07:18
unfoPoseidon, VMs are slow.07:18
khaije1towsonu2003: do you ever attend the baltolug meetings, i wonder if we've met07:18
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Jruaguys I am facing a problem in edgy, when i use gdesklets it utilizes the whole memory.. is this a bug ?07:18
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iterchuckyp: I still don't see the point, and saying that "it's been discussed to death" doesn't really help07:18
towsonu2003khaije1, no, I'm pretty much a "loner" :p07:18
rawrnessautoers are evil07:19
unfotowsonu2003, it's good to get out sometimes :)07:19
chuckypiter, I'm not going to get in a discussion of why it is bad.  I've told you.07:19
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towsonu2003unfo, lol, but it's too bright outside...07:19
iteryou've said some patently false stuff at least07:19
chuckypiter, its not supported here.  Thats pretty much the final answer07:19
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chuckypiter, No i have not.07:19
khaije1towsonu2003: ya, unfo is right, I'll save yr nick so i can catch you later, i'm gonna get some rest07:19
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omaciter what are you trying to do?  install the flash plugin for firefox?07:20
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chuckypomac, he's trolling07:20
iterno man I got everything working fine thank07:20
iterand I'm not trolling07:20
azurealsigh...reg sound was kinda messed up by installing and uninstalling =/07:20
Poseidonhow much space  dose this ubuntu need07:20
towsonu2003khaije1, good night -I usually hang in the forums though :)07:20
azurealwrong chan.07:20
iterI just saw someone say devs hate automatix07:20
pc22unfo, express scribe07:20
firebird619I just started Ubuntu and it just gets through GRUB and then the screen goes black and stays that way, I don't get to the login screen. This has occured the past couple days off and on. What can I do to fix this issue?07:20
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jonkelleactually, if iter wants to use automatix.... and 'possibly' (I say possibly, because I have repeatedly used it since early Breezy with no problem) why can't you just say we don't support automatix here?  and let it be at that?07:20
chuckypPoseidon, depends on what you want to install?  Will this be a desktop setup?07:20
iterand I wanted to know if that were actually the case07:20
unfopc22, where did you download it from?07:20
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towsonu2003polttaja-, 10GB and you'll be happy, 5GB at least I guess07:20
khaije1oic, gdnight07:20
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chuckypiter, it is the case07:21
itergot a reference?07:21
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jonkelleyou can get all the support you need for automatix on their forums anyhow.07:21
iterI'd like to know why07:21
chuckyp!automatix | iter07:21
ubotuiter: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.07:21
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jerb_automatix is like making homemade cardboard gaskets for your porsche07:21
unfoPoseidon, 3 GB minimum. But I think the installer will steal half your hard disk automatically unless you tell it not to.07:21
towsonu2003Poseidon, yea, be careful with the installer :)07:21
unfohow much disk space does the installer take automatically? is it 50%?07:22
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Poseidontoo much07:22
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unfoPoseidon, you can reduce it easily.07:22
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Poseidonok i got it07:23
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jonkelleso, anyhow iter just check out the automatix forums if you have any problems.  if you're smart enough to edit a /etc/apt/sources.list you can probably not worry too much about what it does.  Most of the 'non-free' stuff, it actually just does a wget on and for the most part, the sources.list is only slightly modified, with it marked clearly what automatix added.07:23
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unforawrness, if you get no answer try http://www.vmware.com/community/index.jsp07:23
pc22unfo, actually i cant make it to work07:23
unfopc22, but what website did you download it from?07:23
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towsonu2003jonkelle, I don't like the linking of not-wanting-to-edit-sources.lst -> stupidity07:24
pc22unfo, http://www.nch.com.au/software/linux.html07:24
pc22unfo, i did everything in the instruction07:24
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towsonu2003jonkelle, we all have been newbies at one point, and I for one would enjoy automatic installation of various stuff...07:24
unfoomac, thank you for the tip but why did you PM? :-)07:25
jonkelleread what I typed, it doesn't say that.07:25
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jonkelleI said if you're smart enough to do it, then automatix won't kill your day.07:25
unfopc22, how much does automatic scribe cost?07:25
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towsonu2003jonkelle, "if you're smart enough to edit a /etc/apt/sources.list you can probably not worry too much about what it does" but this is going to become a flamewar, I shut up :)07:25
jonkellewhich I mean.  if you're smart enough.07:25
FarnabyAhah! It took some mucking about but the ubuntu machine has graphics agaiN!07:25
jonkellenot if you're a newbie.07:25
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pc22unfo, the one im using is free07:26
iterhehe I'm not afraid of editing a makefile or two07:26
iterjust wondering the rationale behind the anti-automatix comment07:26
eyequeuealso, automatix is highly UN-recommended in here, it breaks too many systems07:26
jonkelleif you're a newbie, you're probably just figuring out how to open the gui's right?07:26
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.07:26
iterlooks like it was arnieboy who had personal beef w/the automatix guy07:26
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unfoomac, > "I just don't want to litter the chat with stuff others might not be interested in." >> don't worry, it is on-topic.07:26
rawrnessauto scripts are evil07:26
iterand since he used to be a ubuntu dev...07:27
iterthat must be where it came from07:27
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jonkellearnieboy authored the original automatix07:27
rawrnessnoobs like i was should learn how to set things up07:27
unfoomac, > "the default ubuntu install takes about 7-8 GB's." >> so it takes 5-6 GB for free ext3 space?07:27
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jonkellenow it's more of a community effort.07:27
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Farnabyand I think I discovered where the screensaver issue is. Anybody know where the option to lower colors is?07:27
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Poseidonwhy dose it need so much space?07:28
towsonu2003Farnaby, I believe in /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:28
unfoPoseidon, it does not. you can tell it to take only 2 or 3 GB.07:28
iterah I see arnieboy had the beef with the ubuntu dev07:28
tzadikimso...i appear to be too stupid to figure out how to fix a udev mounting root file systems bug in dapper, but it's apparently been addressed in the edgy release...should i try edgy, or is it gonna be too much for a complete newbie? do i wait for feisty?07:28
jonkelleand half the reason ubuntu is gaining steam is that it is newb friendly.  not all pc users want/need to know how it works under the sheets.07:29
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towsonu2003tzadikim, what's the bug # ?07:29
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unfotzadikim, go with edgy. and no, you are not stupid. IMO anyone who manages to install and use Ubuntu and get on IRC is above-average intelligence :)07:29
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tzadikimhaha, well, i haven't installed or used ubuntu yet07:30
towsonu2003!ping and !ping07:30
tzadikimi'm still in windows land07:30
unfotzadikim, get edgy.07:30
Farnabytowsonu2003 according to that one its correct07:30
iterunfo: stick around07:30
Juanquick  question07:30
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Poseidonso what about the EMS memery07:30
tzadikimhang on towsonu, i can't find the bug #07:30
iterunfo: that opinion will probably change ;)07:30
unfoPoseidon, what?07:30
unfoiter, oh :)07:30
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unfoiter, fine, "most". :)07:31
unfoPoseidon, it requires 256 MB RAM.07:31
Juani have my dsl connection configured on pppoeconf, but it renews ip every 12 hours07:31
appenWhat do you think is better. Easy Ubuntu, or Automatix07:31
Poseidonoh I got it07:31
eyequeueappen, neither, both are deprecated i believe07:31
Juanwill it reconnect auto?07:31
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towsonu2003Poseidon, if the computer is too old, (one with 10GB hdd & -128MB RAM would be old) try xubuntu07:32
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tzadikimtowsonu: i think it's bug 636707:32
Poseidonnot too much  less than XP07:32
chuckypiter, please go to #automatix or even #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss it.07:32
unfoiter, if you go off-topic enough the ops may kick you.07:32
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iterthank you mr. thought police07:32
towsonu2003Poseidon, if it can run XP, it should be able to run ubuntu07:33
Shadowlineiter, try discussing it in #ubuntuforums07:33
chuckypPoseidon, you could even install it on much lower system specs with different wms or none at all.07:33
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Poseidonit can run Vista07:33
chuckypiter, thought police?   You are speaking offtopic07:33
unfoPoseidon, I have Ubuntu on my 3-year-old slow laptop.07:33
Juani have my dsl connection configured on pppoeconf, but it renews ip every 12 hours, will it reconnect automatically?07:33
theDtTvBHello there, I am using Ubuntu Server, and I installed KDE.07:33
theDtTvBAfter that, KDE keeps prompting me to login, what should I do?07:34
unfoiter, there is no such thing as free speech on IRC. Congress guarantees you that right but Ubuntu does not. :)07:34
chuckyptheDtTvB, you log in as your user.07:34
Poseidonoh cool07:34
Farnabywell when i go to gnome-screensaver-preferences through command line I get the following: LibGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support cisual 0x4b | Gnome-screensaver-Message: Found best visual for GL: 0x2507:34
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chuckypFarnaby, what type of video card?07:34
unfotheDtTvB, why did you install Server?07:34
nothlittheDtTvB, you log in, or disable kdm depending on what you want to do07:34
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theDtTvBI want to try it. I had Desktop already.07:35
Farnabychuckyp: old.... matrox 400g. but its free and the ubuntu machine isn't currently my main machine07:35
firebird619What would cause Ubuntu to go throug GRUB, but then the screen goes blank and stays that way, never getting to the login screen?07:35
chuckypFarnaby, well what is the response of glxinfo | grep render07:35
chuckypfirebird619, lots of things07:35
unfotheDtTvB, that's fair. so log in. :)07:36
pc22i need to use internet explorer and i got it using ie4linux but i cant use activex07:36
jonkelleI don't believe activex will work under wine07:36
theDtTvBThe login screen shows up, I typed my username and password the screen turns black, and the login window pops up again and again.07:36
chuckypfirebird619, try hitting ctrl+alt+f1 and see if you get a text console.07:36
towsonu2003tzadikim, the fix won't go to Dapper, that's for sure... if you think you're gonna bump into that, I'd go with edgy. edgy is, well, edgy :) you can also install dapper and do what this comment says: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/6367/comments/8307:36
unfopc22, how did you plug in the pedal? USB?07:36
Farnabyjust that the 3d driver claims not to support 0x4b and then hangs chuckyp07:36
theDtTvBLooks like I missed to install something...07:36
pc22its still now working unfo07:37
Poseidonunfo ,which is your first Linux sys when you knew Linux,ubuntu?redhad?XGL or else07:37
chuckypFarnaby, if you type in "glxinfo | grep render"   in a terminal?07:37
unfopc22, USB?07:37
firebird619chuckyp: No, I don't. This has been an ongoing problem the past couple days, it will do this and then all of a sudden work again.07:37
Juani have my dsl connection configured on pppoeconf, but it renews ip every 12 hours. will it reconnect automatically?07:37
Farnabychuckyp yes07:37
unfoPoseidon, it was Mandrake. I hated it.07:37
Farnabythats what Ityped and thats what i got07:37
tzadikimdrat, this is gonna be the third live cd download in two days07:37
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chuckypfirebird619, hrm... I would suspect some faulty hardware if its working some times then not others.07:37
unfoPoseidon, no apt-get07:37
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pc22usb is working but not the pedal07:37
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towsonu2003tzadikim, Dapper will be supported for 3 years (desktop) while edgy will get 1,5 years (I believe). Also, edgy is designed to be more buggy then dapper (that's how their plans started)07:37
unfoPoseidon, if you want to find out what apt-get is, type: /msg ubotu apt-get07:38
Poseidonapt-get?whar is that07:38
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chuckypFarnaby, hm....  I wouldn't even know where to begin with that card for drivers.07:38
Xzyx987Xhas anyone had any luck getting eclipse to work in 64 bit builds of kubuntu07:38
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Farnabychuckyp: me neither sadly... damn old junk07:38
firebird619chuckyp: Which piece of hardware, the PC is about 4 years old and the HDD about 1-1 1/2 years old. Would this problem be graphics or what?07:38
chuckypFarnaby, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=168781407:38
iternah there's definitely a matrox driver07:38
Xzyx987XI installed it from the standard package, but when I try and run it it generates a huge error log07:38
unfopc22, type: lsusb07:38
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tzadikimtowsonu, so what does that mean? if i'm totally new is edgy gonna be too difficult?07:39
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chuckypfirebird619, well its hard to say when it does boot you could try to check out the logs and see what failed if anything on the last boot.  Do you have another os on the machine?07:39
Xzyx987Xcould someone just try and install it and see if they have the same problem?07:39
unfopc22, that's spelled ell ess you ess bee :)07:39
towsonu2003tzadikim, no, it will probably be as easy as dapper. but you may encounter bugs here and there07:39
Farnabychucky: thanks man, google had just pulled that up as well07:39
pc22i pmed u with result07:39
unfopc22 Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:000007:39
unfopc22 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:000007:39
unfopc22 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:000007:39
unfopc22 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000007:39
unfopc22 Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:000007:39
theDtTvBI installed kde-base, kdelibs, kdesktop, kdm, and kubuntu-default-settings. Did I missed anuthing?07:40
Poseidonwhat is your sys now unfo? dual-boot?07:40
Madpilotunfo, pastebin!07:40
tzadikimis it just as easy to set up a dual boot?07:40
unfopc22, hmm. i wonder what that means07:40
unfoMadpilot, sorry07:40
unfoPoseidon, yes07:40
chuckypfirebird619, most of your log files will be in /var/log   in there you will find files such as dmesg etc..  that you can look at and see what went wrong last time. Xorg.0.old   etc....07:40
towsonu2003tzadikim, let me say it this way: if the system is of *utmost* importance to you, I'd go with dapper.07:40
firebird619chuckyp: yes, Windows XP, it is on a separate HDD that isn't connected when Linux is.07:40
Poseidonwhich and which one07:40
chuckypfirebird619, does xp boot every time?07:40
firebird619chuckyp: Yes.07:40
chuckypfirebird619, okay well then I would start leaning towards software.  Or possibly memory if anything.07:41
chuckypfirebird619, What about the live cd.07:41
unfopc22, I would ask in #hardware07:41
tzadikimtowsonu, yeah, mostly i'm just trying to learn a bit about linux, but i intend to hold on to my windows partition for now, so i guess utmost importance wouldn't be quite true :-)07:41
pc22thanks a million07:41
towsonu2003tzadikim, then I'd go with edgy :)07:41
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iterahh got it07:42
iterof course it was included07:42
iterdriver is mga07:42
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unfopc22, tell them your full lsusb output. it is probably safe to paste 5 lines in #hardware.07:42
iterFarnaby: make sure you're using mga in xorg.conf07:42
Poseidoni want to setup a Linux XGL   does it work07:42
tzadikimok, thank you very much, i'll give it a shot07:42
Farnabyiter, I am07:42
unfoPoseidon, maybe07:42
chuckyp!xgl | Poseidon07:42
ubotuPoseidon: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:42
eyequeue!xgl > Poseidon07:42
chuckypfirebird619, Also are you re detecting the different hd with your bios when you change?07:43
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Xzyx987Xhere is the full log of the eclipse problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29683/plain/07:43
iterFarnaby: sorry, looks like a bug07:44
iterFarnaby: http://www.mail-archive.com/dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg28133.html07:44
chuckypFarnaby, are you using 6.1007:44
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ndowensgah, my screen won't quit moving/flickering or whatever u can see the screen kinda shake07:44
unfondowens, when did the problem start?07:44
Farnabychuckyp: yes, updated to get gnomepilot working07:44
iterfortunately it's cosmetic only07:45
Farnabyiter: so it seems, they released edgy with a few issues...07:45
chuckypFarnaby, did you check out the link i sent you earlier for a possible solution?07:45
iterwell that's a mesa issue07:45
omacappen:  neither.   Edgy Eft is the best version I have had the pleasure to use and install stuff for and saw no need to use other installers.  Besides I am betting more resources have been thrown at ubuntu to make it easy to boot and install free open-source stuff.   The only thing that could make the install faster is by doing something like mirrors but each mirror could be like a torrent seed for every file in the ubuntu multi-verse.  The downl07:45
omacoad bandwidth right now is adequate, but torrent-like mirrors could make the download-bandwidth better.07:45
unfopc22, did it work?07:45
firebird619chuckyp: It boots to Live just fine.07:45
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Farnabychuckyp: trying it now, about to restart07:45
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ndowensunfo: it's been like this for a while, it's worse if the refresh rate is high07:45
chuckypfirebird619, hrm.. are you re detecting the drive in the bios when you switch and unplug the other?07:45
tzadikimhey, one more question...if i have a 64bit processor do i want to go for the 64 bit edgy?07:46
unfondowens, does the problem happen only in ubuntu, or other OSes too?07:46
chuckypFarnaby, you should be able to just restart x.  ctrl+alt+backspace07:46
eyequeuetzadikim, no07:46
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unfotzadikim, I recommend the 32 bit. it's better tested.07:46
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ndowensall, i am in gentoo atm, but i ordered a ubuntu cd so i am just hanging here, and wondering why that is too07:46
pc22unfo, still asking07:46
chuckyptzadikim, you can try either or.07:46
firebird619chuckyp: BIOS detects it. I don't switch hardly at all though.  I prefer Linux over Windows.07:46
ndowensonly guesses are either monitor or vid card, not sure which07:46
dortoanyone knows if Crafty(chess engine) is available in any repository that can be used in Ubuntu?07:46
Farnabychuckyp: i am going for a fullrestart anyway since my last one was sorta messy between all the xorg modifications I was pulling to get it working correctly07:47
unfondowens, does it happen in DOS? Windows? in the BIOS setup screen?07:47
eyequeue!info crafty07:47
ubotuPackage crafty does not exist in any distro I know07:47
omactzadikim: yes, but do keep the 32 bit 386 kernel in your grub menu.  don't uninstall the 32-bit 386 vanilla kernel.07:47
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unfondowens, you can get old vid cards cheap on ebay or free at www.freecycle.org07:47
ndowensi think it does it after the screen being on a while and haven't noticed it doin it in the bios setup07:47
chuckypfirebird619, hrm...  I would run an fsck on the drive make sure that tests okay.  Also run a memtest make sure that works.  If all else fails possibly try reinstalling thats just wierd.  Its very difficult to trouble shoot intermitent problems.07:47
unfo!freecycle | ndowens07:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about freecycle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:47
iterdorto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3165907:47
Farnabyhowever, I will say that minus this graphics issue and minus the fact that quark has lost mp3 support/totem losing avi support, edgy is great07:47
tzadikimomac, theres nothing to uninstall, im doing a fresh linux install, hoping to dual boot with xp07:48
Farnabythe quark/totem issue seems to be just me though07:48
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tzadikimdo i want to test out the 32 first?07:48
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firebird619chuckyp: I just did clean install of Edgy 2 days ago07:48
chuckyptzadikim, what type of processor do you have?07:48
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unfoPoseidon, do you have a Chinese IME installed? does it work in Chatzilla?07:48
chuckypfirebird619, was it working fine from the start or did this problem always occur?07:48
tzadikimdualcore amd 64 x207:49
PoseidonIME what is it07:49
unfoPoseidon, can you type on your computer in chinese?07:49
tzadikimit sounds like everyone has a different opinion :-)07:49
dieselDoes ndiswrapper come in the stock Ubuntu kernel (specifically Edgy's kernel)?07:49
chuckyptzadikim, then you can get away with installing the amd64 package.  Or the 32bit it doesn't really matter the choice is yours.  Perhaps search the forums for some issues people have had.07:49
Poseidonof course07:49
tzadikimok, thank you07:50
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chuckyptzadikim, if i'm not mistakent though I believe you can now run 32bit apps on 64bit system with 6.1007:50
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk07:50
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mneptontzadikim: if you need Flash or Win32 AV codecs, use the 32 bit version of Ubuntu07:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:51
totall_6_7comming from years of mirc i still do double takes when i see asian characters with kvirc07:51
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tzadikimoh yeah i think i'll want flash07:51
firebird619chuckyp: I had been having this problem after having Dapper installed and updating to Edgy, thats why I did the clean install to try and solve the problem, that didn't work. The problem still occured after the clean install.07:51
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chuckypfirebird619, hrm.. perhaps try installing dapper and see if the problem persists.  If it does then you know a its a problem with a package in edgy.07:52
Poseidonlol  there is no one there07:52
chuckypfirebird619, which may be the case from what you are saying.07:52
unfoPoseidon, in #ubuntu-tw there are ppl there.07:52
dooglusubuntu is based on debian.  you shouldn't need to do a clean install - you can apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade from one release to the next07:52
dortoiter, i too got a few google hits to ubuntuforums threads, but none of them are loading. is ubuntuforums.org down today?07:52
chuckypfirebird619, that should be if it doesn't07:52
chuckypdorto, they are up.07:52
iterdorto: works here, try google cash07:52
itererr cache07:52
BHSPitLappygoogle checkout07:53
unfodorto, dunno. try the ubuntu mailing lists or google cache or http://web.archive.org instead.07:53
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chuckypfirebird619, what type of system do you have?07:53
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firebird619chuckyp: Yes, I could try that. Could it possibly be a driver issue, every time I start Ubuntu, when it does work, just past GRUB it shows a black screen with multiple colored dots and lines, sometimes thick white lines, multicolored lines, etc.07:53
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Farnabychuckyp, your fix worked and for that I am thankful07:53
chuckypFarnaby, np07:53
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firebird619chuckyp: I have an eMachines Desktop. 2 Ghz, Intel Built-in graphics, 256 MB Ram.07:53
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chuckypfirebird619, hrm... maybe search for your model ont he forums.  Other than that I would try dapper just to make sure its a driver issue with edgy.  Most likely going to be a problem with video drivers or the kernel.07:54
chuckypfirebird619, the other thing to try would be booting with out X and see how often the system fails that way.07:55
chuckypfirebird619, then you would know if tis a video or kernel issue.07:55
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firebird619chuckyp: Ok, I can try dapper again, all I really had installed extra was Beryl (which is amazing). How do I tell it to boot without X?07:56
unfoubotu, freecycle is a set of mailing lists where you can give away things (including old hardware) for free or get things for free. get more info at freecycle.org.07:56
unfoubotu, freecycle.org is a set of mailing lists where you can give away things (including old hardware) for free or get things for free. get more info at freecycle.org.07:56
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chuckypfirebird619, yeah I would do that before try dapper07:56
firebird619chuckyp: How do I tell it to not start X? I can't get to anything really except the GRUB menu.07:57
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chuckypfirebird619, okay type in runlevel to see which runlevel you are running now07:58
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firebird619chuckyp: Where do I type that in, at the GRUB menu?07:59
chuckypfirebird619, terminal07:59
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chuckypfirebird619, you can try appending init 2 to the end of the kernel line07:59
itersheesh wouldn't it be easier to boot to single user08:00
unfochuckyp, or: single08:00
iterlinux single at grub menu08:00
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firebird619chuckyp: All I can get to is the GRUB menu, how do I get to a terminal from there. Then I can append init 2 to the kernel line.08:00
chuckypfirebird619, yeah just append single to the end of the line08:00
chuckypunfo, ty08:00
unfochuckyp, np08:01
Farnabywell, xinelibs is still screwy, but thats an issue for manana, I gotta go get 5 hours of sleep so i can make it to work tomorrow08:01
chuckypfirebird619, do you have recovery mode as an option?08:01
Farnabythanks again chucky08:01
nothlitfirebird619, you can append it from the grub menu .. just hit e (for edit)08:01
chuckypFarnaby, np08:01
firebird619chuckyp: Yes, I have recovery mode as an option.08:01
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firebird619chuckyp: Should I go to that before appending single to the kernel line.08:01
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zircxman, I don't know what the hell is going on but sites just don't seem to be coming up or resolving in the manner that they should be..08:02
chuckypfirebird619, well you can boot to recovery mode  or hit e i believe to add stuff to the end of what ever line your are currently selecting.  Then just add single at the end of the line.   Recovery mode automatically boots to single user mode so X will not start.08:02
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unfofirebird619, just use recovery mode.08:02
chuckypfirebird619, if you append single to your nomral kernel line it will only be for that boot and upon restart you would have to do it again.08:02
zircxI've even gone to the extent of using opendns servers and still having problems with sites not resolving... I'm thinking that maybe it's my router now.. because I intially thought it was my ubuntu edgy08:02
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CuriousCatdoes anyone here use ipw3945 working on edgy?08:03
CuriousCati can't seem to get the daemon going08:03
chuckypfirebird619, if you just select recovery you could do it every time.08:03
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firebird619chuckyp: So should I boot to recovery mode from now on for a while and see how often it crashes?08:04
knapperGuys, I am having a terrible time trying to get NVIDIA drivers installed properly.08:04
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chuckypfirebird619, just select recovery mode.  Let it boot.  log in.  then sudo shutdown -r now   and do the same over again a few times.   And see if it hangs or crashes.08:04
zircxi click on a link which directs me to one site and a totally different site comes up, e.g i click on a forum link and i get www.imageshack.us coming up instead but it still fails to connect?08:04
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zircxhas anyone had a problem like this before..08:04
Kawaii-Pandathe forums are down today isn't it?08:04
chuckypfirebird619, yeah thats the idea.  Then we will know if its a problem with X or some sort of driver issue.08:04
varsendaggarknapper,  go to the ubuntulinux.com   web site,   then click on the wiki and search for nvidia08:04
firebird619chuckyp: I didn't have to log in, it automatically logged in as root.08:05
spanglesontoasterm does anyone know why fglrx doesn't seem to work on edgy properly ?08:05
chuckypzircx, DNS issues08:05
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unfospanglesontoast, it is working badly for you? please elaborate.08:05
chuckypfirebird619, okay just shutdown -r now08:05
unfo!smart questions08:05
chuckypfirebird619, and try again make sure you can do it a few times.08:05
zircxchuckyp, I thought as much.. but I've got my router using opendns.. wouldn't that help resolve the dns problem, or would it relate more to my isp dns ?08:05
unfoall: should I put the smart-questions link into ubotu?08:06
spanglesontoastwell it doesn't seem to enable 3d accell08:06
firebird619chuckyp: Ok, will do and see wat happens.08:06
knappervarsendagger, I am getting a version mismatch error. API mismatch.08:06
knapperI cannot install the nvidia drivers or nvidia-glx, neither work08:06
knapperwhen I change nv to nvidia08:06
spanglesontoastI'm just wondering if this is because I was using the k7 kernel now using the latest one provided with edgy08:06
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iterknapper: gotta have appropriate restricted-modules as well'08:07
knapperiter I do08:07
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iterso xserver dies?08:07
zircxknapper, are you using synaptic to install the nvidia drivers?08:07
knapperI tried synaptic and the nvidia installer08:08
spanglesontoastXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". ?08:08
chuckypzircx, you could ifconfig and see who's dns you are using08:08
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knapperI can install it fine, but when I try to use it, that is when it doesn't work08:08
firebird619chuckyp: restarted three times to recovery mode and so far so good. No problems.08:08
itersince when does ifconfig return dns08:08
knapperwhen I edit xorg.conf and change nv to nvidia08:08
chuckypzircx, i'm not really good at fixing dns issues08:08
knapperI get something about API mismatch08:08
chuckypzircx, perhaps someone else may know more.08:09
knapperkernel and the module are from different drivers08:09
yakumohow do i play .mkv format? im using mplayer08:09
chuckypfirebird619, What type of video card do you have?08:09
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zircxchuckyp, the eth0 is configured as a static that uses the router as a gateway08:09
towsonu2003knapper, I guess you installed the nvidia drivers from nvidia site?08:09
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firebird619chuckyp: Intel Built-in i810.08:09
chuckypzircx, yeah I can't remember how to show which dns servers you are using.08:09
zircxthe router is configured to use opendns servers.. somethings not right though.. weirdly  enough..08:10
knappertowsonu2003 at one point I have08:10
chuckypfirebird619, okay try booting to recovery mode and editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changing your video driver to vesa08:10
zircxoh hang on ..08:10
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iterzircx: you have the problem in firefox and not mozilla, right?08:10
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iterzircx: if so it's not a dns issue08:10
iterunless you got some crazy hosts files08:10
azurealhi, sudo modprobe intel8x0 just freezes08:10
zircxiter, I had the problem in firefox, I haven't used mozilla  but I did earlier on and it was doing the same..08:10
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zircxiter, is there a problem with firefox?08:11
iterzircx: no08:11
firebird619chuckyp: do I change the line that says Driver        "i810" to vesa?08:11
firebird619to read Driver     "vesa"08:11
towsonu2003knapper, you'll have to reinstall it08:11
towsonu2003knapper, I believe08:11
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zircxI actually did a fresh install because i had issues with xserver..(long story) also..08:11
zircxso it's a fresh install08:11
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iterzircx: first off lets get you using isp's dns08:11
zircxok, I'll change back08:12
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knappertowsonu2003 I have tried, it fails08:12
iterzircx: you have a router right08:12
knappertowsonu2003 It say it cannot compile a kernel or something to that effect08:12
iterzircx: does it get ip via dhcp ?08:12
towsonu2003knapper, maybe it cannot find the kernel headers?08:12
KenSentMeHow can i see the list of users currently in a channel in irssi?08:12
zircxno, I've changed it to static, but yes it can do dhcp08:12
iterKenSentMe: /who08:12
chuckypfirebird619, yes08:12
towsonu2003knapper, this command: sudo apt-get install build-essential08:13
iterzircx: that's fine, as long as you know the dns is correct for your isp08:13
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KenSentMeiter: thanks08:13
firebird619chuckyp: Ok, after that is edited do I try booting normally?08:13
towsonu2003knapper, that should install everything you need. then try reinstalling again08:13
iterzircx: setup dns server in router08:13
knapperbuild-essential is already the newest version08:13
iterzircx: then point /etc/resolv.conf to router ip08:13
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chuckypfirebird619, well you can try startx08:13
chuckypfirebird619, see if it atleast loads x08:13
firebird619chuckyp: Ok08:13
towsonu2003knapper, kernel headers? what was that package's name?08:14
zircxwell the eth0 on this machine is setup as a static ip with the router as the gateway.. the router is setup to use the dns of the isp08:14
AdamKilican someone help? what package do i need to (re)install?08:14
AdamKilichecking for GTK+ - version >= 2.6.0... no08:14
AdamKili*** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...08:14
AdamKili*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the08:14
AdamKili*** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.08:14
AdamKiliconfigure: error: maybe you want the gtk-gnome-1-2 branch?08:14
Kawaii-Pandais anyone  unable to access ubuntuforums today too?08:14
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chuckyp!paste > AdamKili08:14
iterzircx: sounds good08:14
zircxiter, yes resolv.conf is pointing to router..08:14
chuckypKawaii-Panda, yes someone else was having issues but i'm not08:14
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unfoKawaii-Panda, use google cache instead maybe?08:14
firebird619chuckyp: Yes, it started X. I am at Ubuntu's Desktop now.08:14
chuckypfirebird619, okay restart and try a normal boot using the vesa driver.08:14
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zircxok brb have to reboot the router08:14
AdamKilichuchyp it wasn't that big08:15
knappertowsonu2003 I don't recall. How can I find it?08:15
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towsonu2003knapper, what's the output of uname -r for you?08:15
chuckypAdamKili, what are you trying to rebuild?08:15
firebird619chuckyp: Ok. Could this be the cause of my problem, a driver issue. I Hope. :-)08:15
chuckypfirebird619, possibly issues with the i810 driver08:15
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chuckypfirebird619, or somethign to do with compiz etc...08:16
towsonu2003knapper, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.17-1008:16
AdamKilignome-python-2.16.0 it's required for gDesklets08:16
firebird619chuckyp: I don't have an option to restart, only Logout, Lock Screen, and Switch User.08:16
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thee3how do i play a vcd?08:16
towsonu2003knapper, better yet: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-38608:16
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chuckypfirebird619, okay ctrl+alt+f108:16
knapperlinux-headers-2.6.17-10 is already the newest version08:16
chuckypfirebird619, or open a terminal and shutdown -r now08:16
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firebird619chuckyp: Did that, shows errors on that screen.08:17
towsonu2003knapper, ok, what's the output of ls -l /usr/src/linux08:17
chuckypAdamKili, why don't you just install gdesklets from the repos?08:17
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knapperno such directory08:17
chuckypfirebird619, hrm.. well if you ctrl+alt+f1  do you get a text terminal?08:17
towsonu2003knapper, ok, just a second08:17
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axisysanyone here install ubuntu on sun coolthreads? T2000?08:18
w4zzWhat happends when i have installed edgy and i open firefox and no matter what address i type i come in -> ergogroup? :S08:18
chuckypaxisys, perhaps search the forums.08:18
totall_6_7chuckyp: tell them how to get back (if they dont know) :P08:18
rufihelp: my USB drive is reported to be 90% full eventhough there is no file in it!!! (no hidden files). Seems that the filesystem is damaged. How do I repair it?08:18
chuckyptotall_6_7, ?08:18
AdamKilichuchyp: that's a good question. another is y wasn't it there when i searched for it earlier? a good answer might be i misspelled it. lol.08:18
firebird619chuckyp: Well, I guess it is the same error, only repeated on the screen, Error opening device /dev/wacom. Also, Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF/. It brings me to the text terminal, just nowhere to type anything.08:18
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thee3how do i play a vcd? I can play all the other video formats.08:19
ndowensunfo so what should i do08:19
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chuckyp!info-gdesklets | AdamKili08:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about info-gdesklets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:19
azureallol...comprehensive sound guide has killed my sound..08:19
totall_6_7chuckyp:  someone said that and i had no idea how to get back08:19
unfondowens, please ask the whole channel, not just me :)08:19
chuckypfirebird619, okay ctrl+z in the terminal  then bg then shutdown -r now08:19
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w4zzWhat happends when i have installed edgy and i open firefox and no matter what address i type i come in -> ergogroup? :S08:19
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ndowensany one know what makes a screen kinda bounce a lil08:19
chuckyptotall_6_7, I have no idea what you are talking about.08:19
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totall_6_7nm :)08:20
firebird619chuckyp: Ok, did that, will wait and see what happens on normal boot.08:20
unfow4zz, if you ask and nobody answers, please make the question longer and more detailed and more gramatically clear before re-asking :)08:20
chuckyp!info - gdesklets08:20
towsonu2003knapper, hopefully, it will be: sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10 /usr/src/linux08:20
w4zzunfo okey08:20
unfondowens, try a new video card or a new monitor :)08:20
AdamKilichuchyp: thanks for having me look twice and not have to compile08:20
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towsonu2003knapper, warnings coming now:08:20
chuckypAdamKili, np08:20
firebird619chuckyp: If it is a driver issue with the i810 driver, what do I do for a driver, use Vesa, or is there another alternative i810 driver?08:20
towsonu2003knapper, wait for a second, someone may see if it's wrong. also, copy paste the command so you won't make typos08:20
towsonu2003knapper, then try reinstalling the nvidia drivers again08:21
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chuckypAdamKili, you can search ubotu by sending it a message info packagename it will tell you if it exists int he repos and where.08:21
firebird619chuckyp: It booted normally, I was able to login and everything.08:21
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phabforums are down :(08:21
chuckypfirebird619, okay how idd you install the i810 driver08:21
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AdamKilichuchyp: cool thanks08:22
chuckyp!info gdesklets | AdamKili08:22
ubotugdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 466 kB, installed size 2452 kB08:22
chuckypAdamKili, see08:22
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ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:22
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sparrWhat major commercial game titles are coming out for linux in the 'near' future, other than ET:QW and Savage2?08:22
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AdrianoOk people, I need to do your worst to crash my Gaim. So get at it08:22
rufihelp: my USB drive is reported to be 90% full eventhough there is no file in it!!! (no hidden files). Seems that the filesystem is damaged. How do I repair it? (anyone?)08:22
chuckypAdamKili, another way to search the repos is to use synaptic or apt-cache search packagename08:22
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phabrufi, check if it has a .Trash folder08:23
w4zzI have newly installed Ubuntu Edgy 6.10. And when i open my firefox, it looks like i have noe net. i come to this ipaddress: and it stands something about ergogroup. Like a login.08:23
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rufiphab: no .Trash08:23
firebird619chuckyp: I didn't install any specific driver. It is what installed with Edgy. I take back that it booted normally, soon after I logged in, it took me to a blank screen, and when I type it shows weird symbols.08:23
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Adrianorufi: in nautilus, enable "show hidden files"08:23
unfow4zz, what does it "stand about ergogroup"? we do not understand :)08:23
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sparroh, and UT200708:23
chuckypfirebird619, hrm...08:23
knappertowsonu2003 I will give it a try, thanks!08:23
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chuckypfirebird619, do you experience artifacts in windows?08:23
smoenuxcan anyone tell me where to find info on Port Forwarding on my Router??08:24
w4zznothing.. its topic: ergogroup and then its a login under the topic08:24
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rufiAdriano: nothing... ls -a gives nothing08:24
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firebird619chuckyp: No, not that I have ever noticed anyway, but like I said, I am do not boot to Windows very much at all.08:24
chuckypfirebird619, I would try windows and see if you are experiencing artifacts in your video.08:24
itersmoenux: portforward.com08:24
chuckypfirebird619, if that is the case that is a tell tale sign of bad video card memory.08:24
Adrianorufi, then, which filesystem is it formatted with? vfat?08:24
smoenuxiter, thanks08:24
nothlitDoes anyone know what the difference between free and available space in gnome system monitor tab filesystem is?08:24
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Gumbychuckyp: are you sure he is talking about visual artifacts and not a bad keyboard layout?  "shows weird symbols"08:25
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chuckypsmoenux, the website for your router.08:25
unfonothlit, try F1 key for help08:25
chuckypGumby, yes08:25