| mhb | fdoving: "online" instead of the other status | 12:13 |
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| fdoving | mhb: ok, you can connect if you select status online, but not the others, correct? | 12:14 |
| fdoving | imbrandon: disconnect icq, and then try to connect directly to 'away' status. or any other status than 'online'. doesn't work, right? | 12:14 |
| mhb | fdoving: not exactly. I can connect with all of them, but I get "online" status regardless of what I choose | 12:15 |
| imbrandon | right same here | 12:15 |
| fdoving | mhb: ok, get http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/kopete-edgy/kopete_3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb | 12:15 |
| fdoving | and try again. | 12:15 |
| imbrandon | fdoving, yea that works as intended | 12:17 |
| fdoving | great. | 12:17 |
| imbrandon | with 3 | 12:17 |
| fdoving | yes. | 12:18 |
| mhb | fdoving: same here like imbrandon's | 12:18 |
| fdoving | good. | 12:18 |
| fdoving | thanks for testing :) | 12:18 |
| mhb | you are welcome | 12:19 |
| imbrandon | :) | 12:19 |
| mhb | good night, folks... I have to get up in less than 5 hours | 12:21 |
| imbrandon | gnight | 12:21 |
| fdoving | nite mhb. | 12:23 |
| fdoving | have to be up in ~5 hours myself. Should go to bed, i just want to get this kopete stuff working. | 12:23 |
| fdoving | wow. building kdetnetwork in dapper is faster than building only kopete on edgy. (on the same machine) | 12:28 |
| fdoving | imbrandon: got a dapper? | 12:33 |
| fdoving | +machine | 12:33 |
| imbrandon | not easliy to get to | 12:34 |
| imbrandon | atm | 12:34 |
| fdoving | ok, nevermind then :) | 12:34 |
| imbrandon | ummm fdoving kopete is seperate in dapper too afaik | 12:34 |
| fdoving | http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kde/kopete | 12:35 |
| fdoving | there is a backport. | 12:35 |
| imbrandon | yea fix the edgy one and i'll just re-backport the edgy one | 12:36 |
| imbrandon | to dapper | 12:36 |
| fdoving | but kopete in main is kdenetwork. | 12:36 |
| fdoving | for dapper, that is. | 12:36 |
| imbrandon | right and the icq on that one has been broken a long while | 12:36 |
| fdoving | ok? might be more than this one fix needed then. I didn't investigate that. | 12:37 |
| imbrandon | right | 12:37 |
| imbrandon | i'll dig out my dapper inastall when i finish packing so i can help you on that one ( test or code both ) | 12:38 |
| imbrandon | we'll work on a SRU for it too but i think it will be more extensive | 12:38 |
| imbrandon | as its an old ( 11.9 ? ) kopete | 12:38 |
| fdoving | then I'll just fix the edgy one, first. | 12:38 |
| apokryphos | imbrandon: do you know if there was any news on the kickoff build for ubuntu? | 12:39 |
| imbrandon | as far as the backport one we can just re-backport the edgy kopete | 12:39 |
| imbrandon | apokryphos, i think it was kinda side steped for a while as i think i was the only one "officialy" working on it and i got busy with edgy release bugs | 12:40 |
| imbrandon | but i plan to pick back up on it at or soon after MTV | 12:40 |
| imbrandon | we dont have a spec for it but i planed to pick all the KDE peeps at mtv about it | 12:40 |
| imbrandon | and see what they thought | 12:40 |
| apokryphos | cool; I thought Tm_T was building it though, too? | 12:41 |
| imbrandon | he compiled it localy for himself, but no packaging | 12:41 |
| nixternal | http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/140 | 12:44 |
| nixternal | that is the funniest blog post ever ^^ | 12:44 |
| nixternal | duncanmv of kde fame | 12:44 |
| nixternal | later, sKool is calling me | 12:44 |
| fdoving | good nite. | 12:47 |
| apokryphos | I see | 12:47 |
| fdoving | Riddell: new kopete for kubuntu.org, more icq fixes, available at: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/kopete-dapper/ | 12:48 |
| Riddell | fdoving: erk, another patch needed? | 12:53 |
| fdoving | Riddell: yeah, upstream changed the fix. | 12:53 |
| fdoving | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136566#c37 | 12:54 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 136566 in general "Connecting to ICQ doesn't work anymore" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 12:54 |
| fdoving | imbrandon: well.. looks like the kopete from http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/kdenetwork-dapper/ actually works with icq. (i installed it on a edgy box). | 12:56 |
| fdoving | I have to go sleep a little. nite. | 12:57 |
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| ryanakca | imbrandon: ping, I think I've figured out why album art isn't working for ipod here... | 02:20 |
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| RichJ | imbrandon: email me a mt. dew asap! | 02:20 |
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| ryanakca | imbrandon: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod#Artwork_not_working says that "GdkPixbuf has to be available (including development package)"... I just installed it, I don't think it's marked as a dependency. It also says that "libgobject-2.0 is required"... I can't find a package providing it on packages.ubuntu.com or threw apt-cache... | 02:28 |
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| ryanakca | imbrandon: ok, libglib2.0 provides libgobject :) | 02:41 |
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| imbrandon | ryanakca, yes and its not in edgy | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | nor will it be backported | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | thus i said use the old firmware on your ipod | 03:06 |
| _nixternal | the iPood? | 03:07 |
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| _nixternal | you hacking it again imbrandon ? | 03:07 |
| ryanakca | from... june | 03:07 |
| ryanakca | not the one that came out a couple of weeks ago | 03:07 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, no thats the new one, the old is from january | 03:07 |
| ryanakca | ah, so not even 06-03-? .. kk | 03:08 |
| ryanakca | I'll switch to it :) | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | anyhow it should be fixed in feisty , but it cant be backported as too much depends on that lib that would need to be rebuilt | 03:08 |
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| ryanakca | imbrandon: kk | 03:36 |
| ryanakca | ty, bbl, bed :) | 03:36 |
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| === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Kubuntu Edgy rocks! | ||
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| Riddell | nixternal_: I'm unsure about your patch, it changes strings, and we definately can't update the translations, and the postinst seems to be wrong, there should be a better way to do it than forcing --set | 03:22 |
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| === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Kubuntu Edgy rocks! | https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+specs | ||
| === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Thu Nov 2 16:37:23 2006 | ||
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| Riddell | Lure: can you add a description to the changelog and attach a new debdiff so I can upload? | 05:55 |
| Lure | Riddell: maybe in the evening - I am busy right now... | 05:56 |
| Riddell | Lure: sure, thanks | 05:56 |
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| Riddell | or even just tell me a 1 sentence description here :) | 05:57 |
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| nixternal_ | Riddell: i don't know how else to fix the about page for a front page except for either 1) rewrite, which we can't do at this stage in the game, or 2) the redirect | 06:26 |
| Riddell | nixternal_: it's not the redirect I have an issue with so much as the postinst calling update-alternatives --set which will steal the value from any other value that has been set | 06:27 |
| nixternal_ | well, don't you want to do that, so /etc/alternatives/firefox-homepage links to redirect.html instead of the index.html? | 06:28 |
| nixternal_ | nm...because the prerm will remove the link anyways, and if it does that, the install will only create one link, which will automatically be classified as "best" | 06:29 |
| Riddell | nixternal_: hope so :) | 06:37 |
| Riddell | nixternal_: so remove that, and remove the .pot changes and should be done | 06:38 |
| Riddell | nixternal_: we shouldn't translate release notes in future, too much last minute changes needed | 06:38 |
| nixternal_ | got it...well i know jjesse and i want to "rewrite" all kubuntu docs for 7.04 | 06:39 |
| nixternal_ | we also want to have a "unified" firefox homepage, which will curb issues like this on in the future as well | 06:40 |
| Riddell | nixternal_: unified with whom? | 06:40 |
| nixternal_ | with the doc project | 06:40 |
| nixternal_ | that, or we take out all fhtat "Linux" stuff from the about kubuntu and make it a simple 4 paragraph blurb about kubuntu | 06:41 |
| nixternal_ | which ever path we go, i can guarantee it will be better than the last though | 06:41 |
| Riddell | much of the "Linux" stuff in the release notes is probably best got rid of anyway | 06:41 |
| nixternal_ | documentation really hasn't been changed since Breezy..it is time for some "New" | 06:41 |
| Riddell | yep, sounds like you have cool plans :) | 06:42 |
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| nixternal_ | hmm | 06:47 |
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| Riddell | Mez: I've not looked much at apport firstly because KDE already has a crash handler and secondly because most crashes are upstream problems so I don't want them reported to launchpad | 07:08 |
| Mez | Riddell... yeah, I understand that .... :D | 07:09 |
| Riddell | replacing the KDE crash handler would get us lynched by KDE even more than changing kioslaves has | 07:09 |
| Mez | Riddell, I'm sure it would ;) | 07:09 |
| Riddell | Mez: but I'll look at it in mountainview and ponder some more | 07:09 |
| Mez | Riddell: scrollback to see what we were talking about before and have a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Upstream | 07:10 |
| Riddell | I'm not sure how they're released | 07:13 |
| Mez | how what are released? | 07:14 |
| Mez | Riddell- wait for my post on -devel | 07:14 |
| nixternal | Riddell: just to make sure i got this right...keep the fixes to release notes and desktop guide, but keep the old pot files so we don't cause a translations stir? | 07:19 |
| nixternal | and remove the --set | 07:19 |
| fdoving | bzr is nice. | 07:20 |
| nixternal | im getting used to it myself...im just trying to figure out "how it is better" than svn right now | 07:21 |
| Riddell | nixternal: yes | 07:29 |
| Riddell | nixternal: bzr can branch archives easier and is easier to set up and doesn't need a server | 07:30 |
| nixternal | yes, that is what is nice about it | 07:30 |
| nixternal | im going to setup a bzr branch here in my house to do ~/ backups to | 07:31 |
| goldenear | I think I have found a bug... could somebody confirm me that ipv6 is activated on a network interface even when it's down ? | 07:39 |
| goldenear | eg: on my laptop I have eth0 (ethernet) and eth1 (wifi) | 07:39 |
| goldenear | eth0 is down but it has an ipv6 local link address... | 07:40 |
| goldenear | Riddell: can you confim this ? | 07:42 |
| Riddell | goldenear: eth0 is down for me and doesn't appear in iwconfig | 07:43 |
| Riddell | err, ifconfig | 07:43 |
| goldenear | it doesn't appear in ifconfig ? | 07:43 |
| goldenear | weird... | 07:43 |
| Riddell | goldenear: if I activate eth0 is gets no ip6 address | 07:43 |
| nixternal | test building now Riddell, and i want to test to make sure the postinst works before i debdiff it | 07:44 |
| goldenear | Riddell: that's very strange... here eth0 (wich is not configured at all in /etc/network/interface) appears in ifconfig with an ipv6 local link address | 07:46 |
| goldenear | very strange... | 07:48 |
| goldenear | I've ifdown the interface and now it's not in ifconfig anymore ... | 07:49 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: w/o the --set, it doesn't work | 08:05 |
| nixternal | that or the prerm file isn't working | 08:06 |
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| Riddell | nixternal: what's in prerm? | 08:06 |
| nixternal | remove|deconfigure|failed-upgrade) | 08:06 |
| Riddell | it might need to be told more forcefully to remove it | 08:06 |
| nixternal | update-alternatives --remove firefox-homepage \ | 08:06 |
| nixternal | /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/index.html | 08:06 |
| Riddell | yeah, we probably want that regardless, not conditional on it being remove | 08:07 |
| Riddell | nixternal: can't we just change index.html instead? | 08:07 |
| nixternal | well, that would require a total rewrite of the aboutkubuntu.xml file | 08:07 |
| fdoving | crap. my 2h powerpc build of kde4libs died 5 seconds from finish. out of space of all things :| | 08:07 |
| nixternal | ouch | 08:08 |
| Riddell | fdoving: debuild -nc is your friend | 08:08 |
| fdoving | if i had the buildpalce it would be.. | 08:08 |
| nixternal | or a rewrite of the xslt file to make it save it as something other than index.html and then rename the redirect.html to index.html | 08:08 |
| Riddell | nixternal: isn't it a symlink at the moment? | 08:08 |
| fdoving | i use cowbuilder (pbuilder) without preserving the buildplace. | 08:09 |
| Riddell | fdoving: nasty | 08:09 |
| fdoving | very. | 08:09 |
| nixternal | index.html is a real file in /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/ | 08:09 |
| Riddell | nixternal: mm, no, it's not | 08:09 |
| nixternal | hehe | 08:09 |
| nixternal | it is a symlink in /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/ | 08:09 |
| nixternal | that points to firefox-homepage which points to the real file | 08:10 |
| Riddell | nixternal: ah, so that's what we want to change then surely | 08:10 |
| fdoving | Riddell: seen bzr-builddeb ? - looks very nice. http://jameswestby.net/debian/ (you need python-debian too) | 08:10 |
| nixternal | freenode is having issues today | 08:12 |
| nixternal | i got up to 25s of lag just now, and i could very well be talking to myself right now | 08:13 |
| Riddell | fdoving: what does it do? | 08:13 |
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| fdoving | Riddell: it allows you to easily build debian packages from a bzr branch. | 08:14 |
| fdoving | Riddell: You can have a tarballs/ directory with the .orig.tar.gzs and keep the debian/ in bzr branches, and bzr-builddeb does the magic. | 08:15 |
| Riddell | fdoving: interesting | 08:16 |
| fdoving | http://jameswestby.net/bzr/bzr-builddeb/README | 08:16 |
| fdoving | james_w (#bzr) created it, he's very interessted in feedback. | 08:17 |
| fdoving | bbl. eat. | 08:17 |
| Riddell | nixternal, kwwii: kamion said docs and artwork input to this would be appreciated https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ubiquity-slideshow | 08:18 |
| Riddell | nixternal: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ubiquity-release-notes may also be interesting to you | 08:21 |
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| nixternal | cool Riddell, i will look into those specs a little more...we can get kwwii to rock out some killer artwork on them, and we can do small blurbs on each one | 08:55 |
| nixternal | it might be nice, if this turns out well, to implement something of the sort into the website, to help us "sell" the idea of Kubuntu better as well | 08:55 |
| fdoving | should probably consider some design/artwork at apt:/ too. | 08:57 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: thanks, I added a few questions to start off with | 09:15 |
| kwwii | Riddell: shouldn't the kubuntu wiki images be updated as well? | 09:15 |
| Riddell | kwwii: yes, the webmaster dude says he'll do that when he has time | 09:18 |
| Riddell | apparantly it's more difficult that it looks | 09:18 |
| kwwii | ok, just thought I should mention it :-) | 09:20 |
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| DaSkreech | allow me to make the assumption that someone is packaging Kopete | 09:23 |
| DaSkreech | since it seems to be the buzz in #kopete | 09:24 |
| nixternal | OMG!!! | 09:24 |
| nixternal | Microsoft and Novell are merging...OpenSuSE and SLES/SLED to be supported by Microsoft! | 09:24 |
| nixternal | s/mergin/partnering | 09:24 |
| nixternal | http://today.reuters.com/news/articlebusiness.aspx?type=ousiv&storyID=2006-11-02T200544Z_01_WEN8954_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESSPRO-MICROSOFT-NOVELL-DC.XML&WTmodLoc=Home-C4-Business-ousiv-2&from=business | 09:25 |
| nixternal | nice link | 09:25 |
| DaSkreech | Uhhh | 09:25 |
| DaSkreech | why? | 09:25 |
| DaSkreech | A) that's not thier expertise | 09:25 |
| DaSkreech | b) novell HATES them | 09:25 |
| nixternal | well, say good bye to SuSE | 09:25 |
| nixternal | Novell is 90% Microsoft Services | 09:26 |
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| fdoving | DaSkreech: i fixed kopete. the icq fix, right? | 09:33 |
| DaSkreech | si | 09:33 |
| DaSkreech | Flow of people asking in 3kopete | 09:33 |
| DaSkreech | s/3/# | 09:33 |
| Tm_T | Yup. | 09:33 |
| fdoving | http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/ | 09:33 |
| fdoving | kopete at kubuntu.org should be fixed. | 09:34 |
| Tm_T | DaSkreech: Did you do some poking about that tab thing in ml/b.k.o ? | 09:34 |
| DaSkreech | No I went out | 09:34 |
| Tm_T | Roger. | 09:34 |
| Tm_T | Anyway, tab thing in Kopete is broken in overall, I should file a pile of bugs etc but never had courage to do that. | 09:35 |
| Tm_T | Dunno why it's so hard. | 09:35 |
| Tm_T | I wish I could just fix them without filing. :p | 09:36 |
| DaSkreech | Tm_T: can't you? | 09:36 |
| Tm_T | I suck with coding, never had enough motivate (and health?) to sit down and do instead of waiting better times. | 09:38 |
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| DaSkreech | ah ok | 09:40 |
| Tm_T | But I'm planned to start force myself to do as soon as I get new apartment. | 09:40 |
| Tm_T | Then I'm runned out of excuses. =) | 09:41 |
| Tm_T | But now sleep, it's another day of struggling with this jam in my head. -> | 09:43 |
| DaSkreech | Night | 09:43 |
| DaSkreech | What chan would I jump to to talk about freenode? | 09:44 |
| DaSkreech | I know they had one for Net outages and power outages etc | 09:45 |
| kwwii | Riddell: just added two more specs.... https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-feisty-artwork-website and https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-feisty-artwork-cd ...could you check and make sure I didn't forget something? | 09:45 |
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| nixternal | http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/yay/ | 09:57 |
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| DaSkreech | That's Hawt :) | 10:01 |
| nixternal | hehe | 10:02 |
| Kryczek | yeah :) | 10:02 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 10:02 |
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| danimo | Riddell: why are the kde4 packages not signed? | 10:03 |
| Riddell | danimo: too lazy? | 10:09 |
| danimo | Riddell: oki :) | 10:12 |
| danimo | Riddell: I thought that was automatic anyway | 10:12 |
| Kryczek | http://static.flickr.com/96/281193199_519775b141.jpg?v=0 | 10:13 |
| Kryczek | is it April 1st already? | 10:13 |
| Kryczek | Slashdot has a post about Microsoft setting up a partnership with Linux | 10:14 |
| Kryczek | somebody pinch me, I must be dreaming | 10:14 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah The Novell thing? | 10:14 |
| Kryczek | yeah, with Novell | 10:15 |
| apokryphos | heh | 10:20 |
| danimo | http://www.microsoft.com/events/executives/webcasts.mspx | 10:23 |
| danimo | starting in about 30 mins | 10:23 |
| apokryphos | heh | 10:23 |
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| oslo | evening Riddell | 10:54 |
| Mez | Is there a discussion why superkaramba wasnt included in edgy by default? | 10:57 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: in reference to bug 69814 - which concerns the links on documentation.php page on kubuntu.org | 11:37 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 69814 in ubuntu-doc "doc.ubuntu.com website out of date." [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69814 | 11:37 |
| nixternal | http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/kwww-doc.diff <-- here is the fix if you are interested...actually more than a fix, but an updated page all together | 11:37 |
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