HawkwindStop pasting to the channel and use pastebin12:12
CVirusdanny500: why are you freaking pasting here !!12:12
CVirusdanny500: what is your graphics card ?12:12
Hawkwind!pastebin | danny50012:12
ubotudanny500: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:12
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danny500I didn't crash anybody did I?12:13
CVirusits okay12:13
CVirusdanny500: I'll brb in 2 minutes12:13
[cf] nightrid3rdanny500: what videocard do you have12:13
danny500NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] 12:13
HawkwindYou need 3d drivers to play cube12:14
danny500NVidia Vanta12:14
danny500were do I get those?12:14
Hawkwind!nvidia | danny50012:14
ubotudanny500: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:14
[cf] nightrid3rdanny500: i guess you'r useing framebuffer now12:14
sveurhelp! I need help to edit my fstab to access a disk12:15
[cf] nightrid3rdanny500: that also explains why you think linux is slow12:15
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danny500o so instead of using the graphics card to full potential it's buffering the graphics into the cpu?12:15
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[cf] nightrid3rdanny500: no, frambuffer is a technology that works even with old 2meg cards12:16
danny500I have an 8MB graphics card12:16
[cf] nightrid3rdanny500: and is used if linux can't figure out your videocard, as happens with nvidia and ati cards12:17
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morphishor old as dirt 8MB cards....12:17
danny500It work great on windows lol12:17
CVirusdanny500: and it woll work great on Linux when you install the drivers12:17
danny500I've had it running up to 60MB before12:18
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[cf] nightrid3rhmm opengl on an 8mb card :)12:18
CVirusdanny500: virues work greatly on windows too12:18
danny500thats why they have viruse programs12:18
sveur[cf] nightrid3r: help! I need help to edit my fstab to access a disk12:18
[cf] nightrid3rsveur: you can do that as root12:18
danny500with a viruse program there is no need to worry12:18
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sveuri dont know what to write12:19
CVirusdanny500: really ? why did blaster hit all the people with anti-virus programs too ?12:19
[cf] nightrid3rsveur: open the file and look, things will explain themself12:19
[cf] nightrid3rsveur: or try man fstab12:20
CVirusdanny500: blaster hit me when I had the latest Norton Anti Virus with the latest updates12:20
sveuryes, i'm root12:20
mhzanyone using openkiosk?12:20
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danny500Norton sucks12:20
[cf] nightrid3rdanny500: so does windows12:20
danny500AVG is one of the best12:20
CVirusdanny500: this isnt the correct place to start such a discussion12:20
danny500I never had any probs with viruses12:21
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CVirusI'll go get some sleep12:21
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[cf] nightrid3rdanny500: linux isn't that difficult, i know at least 2 authistic's that use it12:22
[cf] nightrid3r<-- one of them12:22
icheynehi all - I've got a problem with resolving hostnames after my edgy upgrade12:22
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icheynemy other machine on my local network can connect to google.com12:22
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icheynebut my upgraded machine cannot12:23
icheyneany ideas?12:23
sveur[cf] nightrid3r: how can i find the UUID?12:23
danny500It's quet funny cause you make fun of windows but atleast windows doesn't need a help line like this because there aren't as many probs12:23
icheynedanny500: there are irc chatrooms for windows help12:23
danny500Yeah but noone I know of has ever had a prob with winows12:24
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morghanphoenixI don't suppose there's any way to play quicktime content in linux?12:24
[cf] nightrid3rdanny500: the problem is that there is no linux as is, every distro is different so its a litlebit harder to install software or make a universal installer12:24
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[cf] nightrid3rdanny500: and it takes some time before games are available in the distro's repo for instalation12:25
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[cf] nightrid3rdanny500: on the other hand, useing linux will teach you allot about computers and stuff12:26
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danny500and thats why only 1 % of the computer world is made out of Linux distro's12:26
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danny500facts hurt eh12:26
[cf] nightrid3rdanny500: right, most people don't want to lear12:26
notechrun games on the OS they were designed for or get a game console12:27
[cf] nightrid3rlearn*+12:27
danny500they shouldn't have to12:27
notech1%, heh. thats a joke12:27
[cf] nightrid3rdanny500: oh, so you never learned how to read and write12:27
andre_my max screen resolution is 800x600@60 HZ12:27
apokryphosandre_: check the FAQ12:28
mhzanyone using openkiosk?12:28
morghanphoenixanyone know if there's a way to play quicktime?12:28
danny500a computer is something that you should be able to just hope on and chat with their buddies or find info on the web or play games or what ever, not take 6 months to learn how to use the damn thing!12:28
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ExodusCCan anyone help me for a sec?12:29
morghanphoenixIt should be both danny12:29
[cf] nightrid3rdanny500: nice dream :)12:29
danny500why does computing have to be so hard?12:29
danny500computing should be a fun thing12:29
apokryphosit is :D12:29
notechits not,you just don't want to put in any effort12:29
andre_this is an BIOS error12:29
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danny500not a "throw my computer out the window" thing12:29
yumadanny500: what are you trying to convince us?12:29
andre_Bicho Ignorante Operando o Sistema12:29
morghanphoenixI think windows is much more difficult personally.12:29
ExodusCI mounted my other HDD with Windows on it to mnt/win -- I just made the folder.... I don't know how to unlock it, or get the permissions changed to allow Konquerer to access it12:30
yumaandre_: hehehe12:30
sveur[cf] nightrid3r: how can i find the UUID?12:30
danny500why, clicking next to hard for you?12:30
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[cf] nightrid3rsveur: i have no idea :(12:30
andre_you umperstanded...12:30
notechdanny500: even your trolling shows no effort since you don't even have correct facts12:30
morghanphoenixEver tried to actually set up windows?12:30
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danny500yeah, it took me 10 minutes12:31
sveur[cf] nightrid3r: can i get root access in konqueror?12:31
[cf] nightrid3rsveur: nope12:31
apokryphossveur: you should generally avoid it, but if you need to: kdesu konqueror12:31
morghanphoenixReally? Using the cd that came with your computer?12:31
Lam_where can i get konqueror plugins12:31
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morghanphoenixThat's not a reall windows install12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:31
notechlol, 10 minutes is a joke too. no windows installs in 10 minutes12:31
apokryphosLam_: like....12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:31
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apokryphosangasule: investigate in /msg12:32
ExodusC[cf] nightrid3r: Any idea how to unlock a folder and give my user account permission so I can view this mounted HDD in Konquerer?12:32
[cf] nightrid3rnotech: yes, windows 2.0 does :)12:32
angasuleapokryphos: sorry, didn't know it worked12:32
danny500Times had to install windows=1, time had to install Ubuntu=14 and counting12:32
dragonflysevenI have installed unrar-free, but I still cant unzip .rars. Any idea why?12:32
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morghanphoenixThe CDs that come with your computer are allready set up for your computer, simplified for the masses.12:32
apokryphosdragonflyseven: what's the error?12:32
apokryphosyou may need unrar-nonfree12:32
[cf] nightrid3rExodusC: chmod 777 /mnt/point if you are the only one useing the computer12:32
apokryphos[cf] nightrid3r: huh? That'd be a really bad way of going about it12:33
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=== morghanphoenix formatted my hard drive on the phone with M$ tech support, been on linux ever since.
[cf] nightrid3rapokryphos: i know :(12:33
notechdanny500: well, you'll keep installing until you decide that putting a bit of effort is worth it. enjoy12:33
apokryphosmount point permissions should be set using mount or fstab12:33
yuma[cf] nightrid3r: isn't better to add an entry in fstab with users as option?12:33
[cf] nightrid3ryuma: thats what i told him before12:33
dragonflysevenIt says that "The utility unrar is not in your PATH."12:33
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angasuleugh, the opengl manpages aren't available as a package? what's with that?12:34
danny500I have waisted 64 hours in the last two weeks on my Ubuntu, what do you mean effort?12:34
apokryphosdragonflyseven: can you paste the output of dpkg -L unrar-free?12:34
apokryphosdanny500: what's the problem?12:34
Dinki had to install both unrar-free and unrar for it to work12:34
yumadanny500: you're wasting about 1~2 hours now...12:34
apokryphosdanny500: very descriptive12:34
notechdanny500: cuz there is no need to reinstall. learn to fix whatever issues you have...oh, that's right, you won't12:34
[cf] nightrid3rdanny500: if you expect to learn everything about linux in 2 weeks you have a big problem12:35
danny500because noone knows how to install this #$%^#% game.12:35
dragonflysevenapokryphos: Do I need to pastebin it, or can I do it here? It is like 12 lines.12:35
danny500I've been using Ubuntu for a year now12:35
apokryphosdanny500: Linux isn't really the ideal environment for gaming (unfortunately)12:35
morghanphoenixWhat game, I logged on after this started.12:35
ExodusC[cf] nightrid3r: Says it is a Read Only Filesystem12:35
apokryphosdragonflyseven: pastebin please12:35
Dinkdragonflyseven, install both unrar and unrar-free12:35
morghanphoenixTry Vendetta Online12:35
notechdanny500: a game? rofl, you reinstall the OS cuz of a game? heh, thats funny12:35
morghanphoenixGreat Game.12:35
morghanphoenixWjat game was it?12:36
[cf] nightrid3rdanny500: this is a general kubuntu channel, just try to ask microsoft for help with and adobe program12:36
andre_konqueror is a few slow...12:36
ExodusC[cf] nightrid3r: I can access it as root, but I want to move alot of stuff over to this Linux install, and I'd like to be able to use Konqueror12:36
morghanphoenixCube comes in a binary, unpack and click.12:36
yumawhat's the problem with it? I could play it in the past without so much trouble12:36
apokryphosdragonflyseven: nevermind, I did it on packages.ubuntu.com12:36
danny500were do I get the Binary?12:36
apokryphosdragonflyseven: the command you have to use is unrar-free12:36
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dragonflysevenapokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29804/12:37
yumadanny500: go to the homepage of the project12:37
morghanphoenixYou have to check your deps too12:37
[cf] nightrid3rExodusC: if the stuff is already on the disk tou can just copy it to your linux install12:37
dragonflysevenThe command? I am using Ark. Do I have to change some setting?12:37
morghanphoenixif you're missing stuff it needs it won't run.12:37
andre_sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange12:38
ExodusC[cf] nightrid3r: This is on another HDD, and it is just giving me "Folder Locked" and that user doesn't have permission to access12:38
apokryphosdragonflyseven: try making a symlink to unrar then12:38
andre_monitorrange: 30-54, 50-12012:38
yumadragonflyseven: have you something in /usr/bin/unrar, because you can make a link12:38
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apokryphosdragonflyseven: ln -s /usr/bin/unrar-free /usr/bin/unrar12:38
morghanphoenixI like the vo installer, shell script that checks all your deps, gets everything and installs it with one click.12:38
Lam_wow katapult is freakin' sweet12:38
apokryphosit's nice, yeah :)12:39
ExodusC[cf] nightrid3r: Should I have to execute the chmod with -R?12:39
[cf] nightrid3rExodusC: you must add the users option to the dev line in etc/fstab then do mount -o /dev/harddiskpartition remount12:39
dragonflysevenI don't have a /usr/bin/unrar.12:39
Lam_apokryphos: i was just wondering if there was a general site i could go to for konqueror plugins.  i want to see what is available before i dedicate myself to a firefox switch12:40
apokryphosdragonflyseven: ln -s /usr/bin/unrar-free /usr/bin/unrar12:40
yumadragonflyseven: read what apokryphos told you12:40
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apokryphosLam_: I really don't think there are many; have you checked konqueror.org?12:40
[cf] nightrid3rExodusC: or chown the mount point (might break things)12:40
dragonflysevenI am sorry, I am lost. Do I copy "-s /usr/bin/unrar-free /usr/bin/unrar"12:40
steveireDoes gnome have an equivalent to kparts? I think parts are a great idea.12:41
apokryphosdragonflyseven: in a terminal (alt+f2 -> konsole) type sudo ln -s /usr/bin/unrar-free /usr/bin/unrar12:41
morghanphoenixSo nobody knows if I can get quicktime to play, doesn't seem like it but I wanted to check anyways.12:41
yumamorghanphoenix: are you sure you can't?12:41
danny500I think theres an VLC codec for realtime12:41
[cf] nightrid3rmorghanphoenix: apple might be able to tell you12:41
danny500try that12:41
apokryphosmorghanphoenix: have you checked the FAQ?12:42
Lam_apokryphos: i'll give that a shot. thanks12:42
dragonflysevenOh, I thought that was in, not ln. Thank you. It is working now! Thank you apokryphos!12:42
apokryphoscool :)12:42
morghanphoenixCan't find any, everything I find says apple hasn't released one, was looking for an unofficial alternative. Not the first time I12:42
yumawell, anyone knows if there's something broken in the last upgrade that makes unable to fullscreen a window in OpenGL?12:42
morghanphoenixI've heard VLC12:42
apokryphosdragonflyseven: just installing unrar-nonfree instead of unrar-free would've been a fix too, but good to try to use free formats :)12:42
apokryphosmorghanphoenix: look at the FAQ12:43
morghanphoenixNeed to look that one up.12:43
yumamorghanphoenix: the win32 codecs doesn't have any soluton to that?12:43
danny500yeah, it can play almost any media file type12:43
danny500the win32 is for wma and wmv and stuff like that12:43
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morghanphoenixI think it does rm too12:43
danny500realtime is an apple product12:43
morghanphoenixBut not quicktime.12:44
morghanphoenixI'm going to check vlc now12:44
ubotufaq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage12:44
danny500I have VLC, it works great but It's a little jumpy if you have an old cpu12:45
apokryphosAnd w32codecs does include Quicktime plugins12:45
danny500yeah mplayer might work to12:45
yumaquicktime is supported by the mplayer binary codecs packages12:45
morghanphoenixI have an athlon, seems to handle everything I've given it so far just fine, including 3d games.12:45
yumadanny500: that's the win32 codecs packages, no?12:45
[cf] nightrid3rlibquicktime is in the repo's :)12:45
danny500for what?12:45
danny500have you tried xine player?12:46
danny500or xfmedia12:46
morghanphoenixYeah, I'm using xine and mplayer at the moment, and libquicktime is not in my repos.12:46
apokryphos!info libquicktime12:47
ubotuPackage libquicktime does not exist in any distro I know12:47
danny500try KMplayer12:47
apokryphosmorghanphoenix: is it really that hard to check the FAQ though? :)12:47
morghanphoenixI get no hits on a search for quicktime, and maybe I wasn't looking in the right place, but I didn't find it in the faq.12:47
morghanphoenixonly reference I found was under restricted formats.12:48
apokryphosmorghanphoenix: ctrl+f -> quicktime12:48
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apokryphosyes.....! Mention of Quicktime12:48
[cf] nightrid3rmorghanphoenix: libquicktime4linux12:49
danny500how do you do that? (* apokryphos notices something)12:49
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apokryphos[cf] nightrid3r: the package in the repo has an annoying 0 at the end :P12:49
apokryphos!info libquicktime012:49
ubotulibquicktime0: library for reading and writing Quicktime files. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.7-0.6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 728 kB12:49
Hawkwinddanny500: /me Your word(s)12:49
apokryphosthough w32codecs package is probably going to be better12:49
[cf] nightrid3rapokryphos: yeah i know :(12:50
danny500*danny500 going out12:50
danny500didn't work oh well nvm12:50
Hawkwinddanny500: /me Going out  You have to use /me12:50
andre_when I click in Monitor and video icon in systemsettings as root12:50
Hawkwind/me Going out12:50
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andre_it says what this module is broken12:51
morghanphoenixHmm, as I said before, followed the restricted formats thing and it doesn't work.12:51
danny500I see12:51
yumamorghanphoenix: I always use the essential codecs from the mplayer homepage12:51
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andre_this work as normal user12:51
apokryphosmorghanphoenix: w32codecs is installed?12:51
andre_but is does not apply the changes12:51
morghanphoenixyes, and functioning for wmv & wma.12:51
andre_and when i find monitor at kcontrol12:51
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apokryphosmorghanphoenix: what player are you using?12:52
andre_it backs for start page12:52
yumamorghanphoenix: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html12:52
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morghanphoenixmplayer, switched from kaffeine after it wasn't working for that one.12:52
morghanphoenixalready there yuma, thanks12:52
apokryphosmorghanphoenix: try kaffeine again12:52
danny500is there an apple version of wine?12:52
andre_some1 know why this happens?12:52
yumamorghanphoenix: I think that's nothing to do with mplayer, I got the impression you can use the mplayer codecs with every player12:53
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danny500o ok12:53
andre_but is paid12:53
yumahmmm, I don't know...12:53
danny500o, go figure12:53
apokryphosyuma: pretty much, yes.12:53
yumaso that's it, try to put the codecs in a /usr/lib/win32 or somewhere near that directory12:54
apokryphosthere shouldn't be a need for that, really12:54
apokryphosw32codecs from the 3rd party repo should have all the necessary things12:54
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jeroenvrphey why can't I format a partition with systemsettings (edgy)?12:55
yumaapokryphos: I can't tell, because I think I don't use those... I think it's a kind of mania I got in the past12:55
danny500for QT info go to http://lists.apple.com/archives/Streaming-server-dev/2005/Feb/msg00013.html12:55
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kaflanhi, what i shoud to do, to get Language applet in KDE?12:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ghostscript - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:55
ubotugs: Transitional package. In component main, is optional. Version 8.50-1.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 48 kB12:55
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danny500kaflan: go to Adept and look up the language you want to use12:55
andre_apt-get install kde-i18n-YOURLANGUAGE12:56
danny500then install it12:56
danny500or you can do that12:56
kaflani dont want to change language in kde12:56
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kaflani want only keyboard switcher layout12:56
danny500then what do you want then?12:56
danny500o ok12:56
yumawell, good night/evening/morning everyone, I'm off to my bed.12:56
danny500why, what type of keyboard you have?12:56
jeroenvrphow to format a partition?!12:57
danny500american english12:57
jeroenvrpwith a gui?12:57
kaflani have english, but i need to use russian12:57
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kaflanand keep english too12:57
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danny500so you have an english keyboard but want it to type out in russian12:57
kaflanand in english too12:57
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danny500I would suggest you just use an online translator12:58
jeroenvrpshadowraven: ping12:58
kaflani have english / russian keyboard12:58
[cf] nightrid3rkaflan: install support for russion and then you can swith in the control panel12:58
danny500oh it does both12:58
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kaflan[cf] nightrid3r: i did not need whole russian support, i need only keyborad switching12:59
danny500yeah, do what [cf] nightrid3r said12:59
kaflani can switch keyboard now, but i need only indicator12:59
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danny500it comes with a shot cut key to12:59
bubu1ukkaflan: u can set it up in control panel01:00
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cpk1how do you get the change log of apps with apt?01:00
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[cf] nightrid3rkaflan: kkbswitch01:00
kaflanbubu1uk: layout indicator?01:00
danny500don't you see a little flag on your application bar?01:00
kaflancouse not01:00
kaflani`m not so nooby ;)01:00
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[cf] nightrid3rkaflan: kkbswitch will let you switch keyboard settings01:01
bubu1ukkaflan: yeah, that little flag in systray. u can setup it  in control center01:01
kaflanwhere in control panel it is?01:01
danny500the flag will show which language your currentl using, thats why I asked01:01
bubu1ukRegional and language01:02
danny500is KDE setup like ubuntu?01:02
kaflanthx a lot01:02
bubu1ukkaflan: and than choose keyboard layout01:02
[cf] nightrid3rkaflan: or try xxkb01:02
morghanphoenixHmm, it's installed, and I have the firefox and moxilla plug-ins set up in my preferances, still nothing but a greay screen in the quicktime window.01:04
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mhzanyone using openkiosk or any .deb kind solution?01:05
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Emesswhenever i login, i get windows coming up from a previous session, but i closed those windows weeks ago and everytime i login theyr back,  especiall konqueror and konsole ones, any ideas?01:05
[cf] nightrid3rmorghanphoenix: create a link from the ff plugins dir to the codec01:05
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wordAnyone have any experience with audacity and segmentation faults?01:07
[cf] nightrid3rEmess: in system settings -- advances -- session manager you can change this01:07
morghanphoenixOkay, how do I create a link when I don't have permissions for /usr?01:09
Emessno, i want it to savemy sessions, but not reopen windows that were closed before i logged out01:09
[cf] nightrid3rmorghanphoenix: sudo01:09
Emessits remembering stuff that shouldnt be there01:09
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dragonflysevenEvery once in a while my sound gets all skippy and crackly. This really irritates me. I have given up on fixing it, but I noticed that when I restart the XServer, it gets better. I presume that this is because it also restarts the sound driver or whatever, so my question is this; is there a way to restart the sound server/driver without restarting the X?01:14
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icheynehas anyone tried automatix2 or easyubuntu with Edgy - which one is better?01:15
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icheyneI had trouble with easyubuntu last time, so I'm nervous this time around...01:15
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ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.01:15
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ (currently down!); for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.01:16
sveurHow can i edit a textfile in konsole?01:16
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LjLsveur: nano filename01:16
apokryphossveur: with a text-line editor; nano or vim (more advanced usage)01:16
[cf] nightrid3rsveur: nano01:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automatix2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:16
icheyneok thanks01:16
icheyneI'll stick to manual approach01:16
icheynelast time I got burned01:16
apokryphos!automatix2 is <alias> automatix01:16
ubotuI'll remember that, apokryphos01:16
LjLgood idea icheyne01:16
icheyneok thanks guys01:17
icheynecya later01:17
apokryphosicheyne: the FAQ is very helpful01:17
icheyneapokryphos: thanks I'll check it out :)01:17
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Emessmmm windows came back even after i closed tehm again01:22
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captainbraillemy wife told Konqueror not to save passwords, how do I undo and fix that?01:25
apokryphoscaptainbraille: fire up the wallet manager: kwalletmanager01:26
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apokryphoscaptainbraille: presuming you're using kwallet01:27
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captainbrailleapokryphos, yup using kwallet, okay the KDE Wallet Manager window is up01:27
apokryphosand edit the configuration in there01:27
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faked_Hey, when I try to open specific applications(like limewire, certain songs[not all, just some O.o] , etc) my computer locks up and I have to restart. Anyone know what gives?01:28
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manchickenWhere's the default Xmodmap?01:29
apokryphosfaked_: bad java version?01:29
apokryphosmanchicken: the command or file?01:29
apokryphosmanchicken: if there's not one in your home, create one: ~/.Xmodmap01:30
apokryphosit'll be detected on X startup01:30
manchickenapokryphos: So where's it mapping my Alt_R to something funky?01:30
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apokryphosprobably not got anything to do with xmodmap; probably kde01:30
faked_I dunno, how would I figure it out? or fix it?01:31
manchickenNope.  It's at the xev level.01:31
captainbrailleapokryphos I don't think I'm finding it01:31
apokryphosmanchicken: how do you know?01:31
apokryphosfaked_: dpkg -l|grep sun gives?01:31
faked_'cause like, some songs open, whatever player I use, but other songs my computer freezes. same thing with video and applications, some work, some don't01:31
apokryphosif it's more than a few lines please pastebin01:31
faked_okay one sec01:31
apokryphosmanchicken: how do you know?01:31
manchickenapokryphos: Because I did xev.01:31
apokryphosthat doesn't tell you that kde isn't interfering01:32
manchickenKDE doesn't change what the key code is mapped to IIRC.01:32
manchickenThe key code isn't mapped to Alt_R01:32
apokryphosmanchicken: what funky things is it doing?01:32
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manchickenIt's getting mapped to ISO_Level3_Shift01:32
faked_well the bot isn't telling me what pastebin is, so anyone care to explain? >_>01:33
apokryphosmanchicken: try to override it in your ~/.xmodmap01:33
apokryphosubotu: wake up01:33
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apokryphosdang, the bot has died01:33
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apokryphosfaked_: www.paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:33
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faked_Firefox can't find the server at www.paste.ubuntu-nl.org.01:34
cpk1he is still dead...01:34
apokryphoscpk1: server that he's on must've crashed01:34
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:35
faked_well there he is >_>01:36
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apokryphosodd, looks fine01:36
apokryphostry using frostwire instead01:37
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire01:37
faked_that's what i use01:37
faked_what, did i say limewire by mistake?01:37
apokryphoshm, I really don't know I'm afraid01:37
apokryphosyou could see if anyone in #ubuntu has had the same problem01:37
faked_i'll check it out01:37
faked_thanks for tryin01:37
cpk1faked_: is it mp3 or flac or what?01:37
cpk1that makes you lock up01:38
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faked_i dunno what video format01:38
cpk1and you are sure you completely lock? you cant even get a tty?01:38
faked_complete lock01:38
faked_wait no.. not mp3s..01:38
faked_the files that are locking are .wavs01:38
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cpk1do the same .wavs make you lock up no matter what player you use?01:39
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captainbraillemy wife told Konqueror not to save passwords, how do I undo and fix that?01:39
faked_and also, when I open specific movies, it freezes01:39
cpk1so maybe they are bad .wavs?01:39
cpk1and bad movies?01:40
faked_so bad that they would lock the computer up?01:40
faked_I didn't know that could happen >_>01:40
cpk1well have they worked with anything else?01:40
manchickenAh ha!  It's xkb!01:40
faked_and that still doesn't explain why frostwire suddenly started failing01:40
cpk1it is kind of odd that they lock you up though01:40
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faked_well this computer's always had a bit of a niche for special cases >_>01:40
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sync350quick question: on openoffice word processor... i have a header with a name and page number field on every page, but i need to remove it from the first page.  How can I remove it without effecting the other headers?01:42
faked_sync: I'm not sure, but i think if you just make the header on the 2nd page, it'll affect all the pages beyond that but not the first page01:43
cpk1sync350: good question, my incredibly anal professor just complained to me about having my header span all my pagers on my paper instead of just having it on the first one...01:43
sync350faked_: aighty, thanks, ill try that01:43
cpk1she also didnt like the fact that the header wasnt an inch from the top...01:43
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mhzanyone using openkiosk or any .deb kind solution?01:46
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sync350hmm.... faked_: that didn't seem to work :(01:48
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sync350YES! i figured it out!01:52
sync350cpk1: for refrence... right click the page, then click page... check the boxes for headers on and same for left/right (so that both are checked) ... then go to format -> styles and formatting, and click the icon for page styles.  double click First Page, and the header on the first page should go away.,  i know your problem was the opposate (wanting the header only on first page) but if you play around with that, you may find it01:55
cpk1sync350: alright thanks01:56
sync350no prob :)01:57
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ryanakcawhat package provides libgobject-2.0?02:16
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astronautehello all02:23
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leandirhi everybody02:24
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willreed03what is a good easy to use graphical FTP server?02:24
leandiris it normal that last.fm on Amarok actually DEVORES cpu speed?02:24
leandirwillreed03: filezilla02:25
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redtricycleI don't think that's normal, leandir..I'm using it02:25
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redtricycledevour, 70%+?02:25
leandirabout 100%...of 1,8 Ghz02:25
astronautesomeone can help me compile frozen-bubble 2.0 on amd64 please ?02:25
leandirevery time I try to use last.fm my laptop goes nuts02:25
astronautethink i have glib2.0 error02:26
mhzanyone using openkiosk or any .deb kind solution?02:27
leandirmhz: for what?02:27
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mhzleandir: internet cafe server and client02:28
seishinbyouYes!  Wine now working under Kubuntu edgy!02:28
seishinbyousort of02:28
mhzleandir: I have tried unsuccesfully to compil any of them02:29
leandirmhz: I do NOT know how to compile ;-)02:29
mhzleandir: are you using openkiosk?02:29
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leandirmhz: no02:29
Emessmmm, suddenly my windows partition cant be read, any ideas? konqueror says "Could not enter folder /media/sda1"02:30
redtricycleWhat did you try so far?02:30
leandironce it happened because somewhere I had redefined the win partition02:30
seishinbyousudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda# /media/sda1 (where # is the # of your Win part)02:31
leandirah wait Emess02:31
seishinbyouor something like that02:31
leandirdid you close windows properly?02:31
Emessi havent used windows in months, not since i got photoshop to rn in wine02:31
leandir'cause you will not be able to mount it if you had closed it umproperly02:31
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Emessit jsut stopped, i also noticed that ksessionmanager wa crashing whenn im in  and xgl session02:32
willreed03filezilla is for windows02:32
leandirnot only02:32
leandirand in any case02:32
leandirwine functions pretty well02:32
leandir(the beta 3 is for linux too :) )02:32
astronauteplease guys, is it possible to install frozen-bubble 2.0 on kubuntu edgy 64 ????02:32
leandirno idea for amarok?02:32
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willreed03dammit i have to go work02:32
seishinbyouThere is gftp too for graphical ftp...but it is a bit meh, I guess02:32
leandirastronaute: I do not even know what it is02:33
willreed03gftp huh02:33
astronauteleandir:  the game02:33
willreed03ill give that a try as well02:33
astronautesmall game with multi support02:33
leandirthere is version 1 in the repos02:33
leandirbtw, no one knows what to check for amarok/last.fm?02:34
astronauteleandir:  i know, i need 2.0 for multiplayer, to play with my gf in local network02:34
leandirit really annoys me at the very least02:34
astronautei have source02:34
astronautebut it refuses to compile02:34
leandirno idea sorry02:34
astronautedunno why02:34
astronautecan you look at pastebin please ?02:34
leandirI do NOT know how to compile02:34
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Emessleandir: i only need it to access some files in amarok02:34
Emessiv also had a problem with session manager crashing and kaffeine refuses to open, any ideas?02:35
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leandirEmess: what do you mean? I need last.fm as a radio...02:35
Emesslike for kaffeine, the icon bounces and then disappears after a bit without it opening, and kaffeine --verbose does nothing02:35
astronautedamn kubuntio, there is always some problem to install softs02:35
leandirkaffeine works02:35
astronauteon 6402:35
Emessleandir: oh, i was talking about my system not working right, kaffeine broke :(02:36
leandirEmess: if nothing functions, wipe away the conf folder in /home and reinstall02:36
leandirI guess :)02:36
JuJuBeeI upgraded to edgy last night and now when I try to run "sudo users-admin" , I get this error... (users-admin:8094): Liboobs-CRITICAL **: There was an unknown error communicating with the backends: The name org.freedesktop.SystemToolsBackends was not provided by any .service files02:37
JuJuBeeright back at ya... :)02:37
redtricycleedgy has this weird bug02:38
redtricyclewhere it won't let you edit partition tables manually02:38
redtricycleif you have xp dual boot02:38
redtricycleor ntfs dual boot02:38
morphish /var/cache/apt/archives/ is something i can keep clean, right?02:38
morphishredtricycle: you mean from installer?02:38
morphishgui one i mean02:38
JuJuBeeHmmm, no takers on my "boobs" problem ;)02:40
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ToyManhmm. is there a way to change the default language after installation?02:41
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morphishi have no idea what users-admin is, so i can only offer to use adduser or useradd02:41
ToyManI have a spanish-speaking customer, and don't speak spanish02:41
JuJuBeemorphish : it is the gui users and groups administrator  from system settings...02:42
redtricycleYes, morphish02:42
redtricyclefrom installer02:42
redtricyclebut you can install if you wipe the whole harddrive02:42
redtricycleI haven't seen any fixes for it, so I'll just bear with it until fiesty comes out..02:42
redtricycleunless they dont fix it again02:42
morphishredtricycle: i had to use alternate CD to even install on a logical partition for /02:42
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redtricycleis that what you did?02:42
morphishredtricycle: use the text cd and enjoy edgy ;)02:42
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redtricycleI'm in edgy, but I had to wipe02:42
redtricyclethat's good to know, thanks02:43
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redtricycleI was about to switch back to slackware02:43
Eightball-DHSup guys.02:43
redtricyclemy first distro was slack, and that was like...02:43
Eightball-DHI'm having some problems02:43
redtricyclejeez, five years ago?02:43
redtricycleit turned me off to linux02:44
redtricyclekubuntu got me back in02:44
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Admiral_ChicagoEightball-DH: ask02:44
Eightball-DHI have a windows partition and a blank partition for kubuntu02:44
morphishredtricycle: slackware seems to have that effect, i tried SuSE next, which worked fine, then took a tumble over redhat, dev'ed for gentoo, dev'ing for smgl, and use kubuntu now on an alternate box, it's nice02:45
Eightball-DHBut when I put the kubuntu disc in it doesn't work.02:45
Eightball-DHIt hangs on "booting the kernal"02:45
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Admiral_ChicagoEightball-DH: did you do a checksum?02:45
sync350hey how do i set up a mic?02:45
leandirnoone knows for amarok?02:45
leandirand last.fm02:45
morphishEightball-DH: it did that too me, i added noapic to kernel commandline (although from where it hung i was expecting that option to not have an effectyet)02:46
Eightball-DHNo, I haven't tried to checksum the iso...02:46
Eightball-DHWhat's "noapic"?02:46
xsachacould have been bad burn?02:46
redtricycleamarok isn't showing my chinese id3 tags02:47
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Eightball-DHI did burn like four different disks, at least one of which was the utility or non-standard iso02:47
redtricycleanyway to have it read different encodings?02:47
morphishEightball-DH: if the checksum is ok, try noapic on kernel commandline, turns off apic, since some boxes don't like it, had to remaster an install ISO for a user who couldn;t boot anything, till i added it for him (odly my syslinux is refusing adding of options :/02:47
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paulwleandir: have you checked on #amarok?02:48
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redtricyclewhich server, paulw?02:48
xsachai think that channel is dead02:48
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redtricycletake out the question mark, sacha02:48
xsachai know02:48
astronauteCan someone tell me is it is possible to install 32bits programs on kubuntu edgy 64 ???? (on gentoo64 its done easy with emulation)02:48
Emessstill cant open my sda, could it be a dbus problem?02:48
leandirpaulw: no thanks :)02:48
xsachalast time i went to it anyway02:48
leandirgood day02:49
xsachayes astronaute, use linux3202:49
sync350anyone got any info about seting up a mic?02:49
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astronautexsacha: eh how to use it please ? where to get it, (nothing in apt-get)02:50
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xsachayes, it's in apt-get02:50
xsacha!linux32 | astronaute02:50
ubotulinux32: Wrapper to set the execution domain. In component main, is extra. Version 1-3 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 56 kB02:50
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xsachayou'll need the libs as well, but i think adept installs those as dependant for you02:51
astronautexsacha:  sorry my adept was slow, right its there02:51
z3ckawhat is the best way to fix a broken kubuntu updrade from Dapper to Edgy?02:51
seishinbyouwhen my upgrade failed, I backed up all important data and did a clean install02:52
z3ckahmmm... i'm unfortunatly not that smart02:52
seishinbyouIt's not that difficult a process; first backup any data you were working on, then boot off the Kubuntu Edgy CD and do a fresh install02:53
seishinbyouI had the OS and my development environment up and running in an hour02:53
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astronautexsacha:  is this correct please ? error :/ http://pastebin.ca/23364002:53
z3ckayes i have gigs and gigs of stuff stuck with a broken boot sequence02:54
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xsachaerrm astronaute, it's in adept...02:54
astronautexsacha:  not 2.002:54
z3ckai followed the directions to "Upgrading from 6.06 LTS" at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php02:55
astronautexsacha:  multiplayer support =)02:55
astronautebest game ever, so my gf want to play with me in local network =)02:55
xsachawhen installing, you don't use linux32 make :P just make it like normal but make sure you have the 32-bit libraries in lib3202:55
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Eightball-DHCould someone recommend a good checksum program?02:55
astronautexsacha:  normal make : http://pastebin.ca/23360302:56
astronautei think im missing something02:56
xsachathe 32-bit libraries02:56
astronauteduinno how to emulate this stuff, is there any tutorial please ?02:56
morphishastronaute: to use 32bit apps in a 64bit system, either find the 32bit (s)chroot guide on the forums, or if you are feeling comfortable adding something to /etc/ld.so.conf just unpack a tarball full of 32bit libs and point your ld.so.sonf there02:56
z3ckaby changing all the instances of "dapper" to "edgy" in my /etc/apt/sources.list file02:56
morphishastronaute: that tarball would preferable go under /opt for easy cleanup02:57
astronautemorphish: yes i understand, where to get it that tarball ? =)02:57
xsachait's pretty easy to just stick the 32-bit libraries in lib32 -- it's all setup to work that way02:57
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z3ckanow it will not boot past the screen refreash of the slpash screen02:57
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morphishastronaute: sec02:57
astronautexsacha:  same question, where to get them ?02:58
astronautei will need 32b support for quake3, teamspeak client02:58
xsachashould have been a package you downloaded in adept.. i thought it was a dependancy02:58
astronauteso im open to all02:58
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astronautexsacha:  no, it is standalone game source i have02:59
xsachano astronaute, the 32-bit libraries..02:59
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xsachayou should have: ia32-libs*02:59
xsachathere is ia32-libs-sdl in there02:59
meatwad64is lame not in the?e apt repositories anymor03:00
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meatwad64i can't find any binaries for lame in the apt repo03:00
astronauteis it safe to take all ia32-libs* ??03:00
xsachabut you probably only need main one and sdl one03:01
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felixjetwhats the Kmix control for "what you heard"03:02
felixjeti need to record audio from streaming but the KRec points to in line, and i need "what you heard"03:03
felixjetanyone know?03:03
astronautexsacha:  done03:03
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xsachaok try compile now03:03
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paulwEightball-DH: what are you using to burn your iso?  k3b will auto checksum.03:04
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xsachahe used windows -- pretty sure :)03:04
Eightball-DHI was using DeepBurner.  In windows.03:04
manchickenAnybody know how to restore kabc from backup?03:04
paulwOh, no idea for windows03:05
Eightball-DHI might have found a solution though.  Thanks.03:05
astronautexsacha:  i have same error03:06
astronautenormal ?03:06
xsachano, maybe your library directory is pointing to wrong one03:06
manchickenSweet.  That wasy easy03:07
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firegirldoes anyone know how to work with gstramers?03:07
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tk_I have a question about swat : i have installed the package und have tryt to connect to swat http daemon with http://localhost:901 but i become a timeout how can  i start the swat daemon if they are stopped ?03:11
win_x_prtstk_, you dont want to use swat03:12
TIger_ITHow can i enable udma7 mode? please........Ive tried in several ways!03:12
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tk_why ?03:12
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win_x_prtspassword travels clear text on the wire03:14
win_x_prtsor wireless03:14
tk_its only localhost03:15
win_x_prtsanyway the info you need is on the samba how to collection at http://samba.org documentation section03:15
win_x_prtswhy not use text editor?03:16
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ironfroggydo aim:, icq:, etc protocols work?03:19
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tk_i am despaired to config samba with the editor , the result is that i can see the shares on Win machines but cannt connect ... i have use a basic basic configuration ...but it wont be working03:21
win_x_prtsswat info at http://us5.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/SWAT.html  you can always ask for help in #samba03:23
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manchickenHow do you make the size of an external task bar independent from the panel itself?03:28
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lters_any tips on using irda03:30
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about irda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:30
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beemerhey all - anyone know how to get a nforce chipset working in edgy?  If I do an lspci, i get several "unknown" items all related to nforce03:34
beemerheya meatwad03:34
meatwad64i think my laptop is nforce 303:34
meatwad64what do people here use for cd ripping?03:34
beemerone sec meat, i'll get you a link for that03:35
ToyManso does the disk partition tool work in the edgy install now?03:35
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ToyManI'm trying to do a dual boot system, but I've been reading about fatal bugs in the disk partioner in edgy03:35
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meatwad64ToyMan: i guess i was lucky i had it re-partition my windows disk03:36
beemermeatwad - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183125hp?t=2515103:36
ashridahhey. anyone know where i can get updated kopete packages for edgy? ICQ's kinda broken in kopete's current version.03:36
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ToyManmeatwad64: and it worked fine?03:36
m4jqphas anyone ever had the problem that when you install the nvidia beta drivers you can't see text?03:36
meatwad64thanks man i forgot about grip03:36
beemeryeah - i've had no issue with it meat03:36
ToyManthe post about it being a problem was from Sept.03:36
meatwad64ToyMan: for me it did windows still boots fine03:37
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beemermeat - on the nforce - i have a nforce4 chipset - did you have to do anything special to get your nf3 going in (k)ubuntu?03:37
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tk_ok many thx03:39
tk_i have found a solution03:39
beemerhowdy fabian03:39
fabian__never been here before03:39
fabian__Hello beemer03:39
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beemerfor what tk?03:39
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meatwad64beemer: not for me wireless was flaky at first but thats not an nforce problem03:39
meatwad64video worked good out of the box i heard about a lot of X issues but i didn't have any03:40
fabian__btw I am new to linux...using kubuntu..looks great so far03:40
bombera few times now  when i start up the computer my network isnt working.... I tried running dhcpclient and dhcpclient2 and didnt have any luck either... i ended up rebootin both times...03:40
fabian__I havent been able to get tge wireless to connect to my wireless03:40
bomberany other ideas i can try the next time it happens to save me from rebboting a 2nd time03:40
beemermeat - i had no problem getting my video going, but I think my hd/dvd is a bit slow and I can't get any sound :(03:40
beemerfabian - what kind of wireless nic do you have?03:41
harihello everbody03:41
beemerheya hari03:41
harii have a question :)03:41
fabian__Intel bg  2200...I think thats the rigth reference03:42
hariIn windows i can regain disk space by cleaning temporary internet files as well as the "temp" folder. How can I do the same thing in kubuntu?03:42
foobarkhari: you could check the /tmp dir03:42
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bomberwhat browser do you use03:42
meatwad64well sound i don't have a problem with03:42
VanessaEevening folks03:42
meatwad64hd/dvd could be a hdparm issue03:43
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meatwad64maybe dma isn't enabled for some reason03:43
bombergo to the preferences and you can also delete all temp internet fiels as well as cookies and stuff03:43
hariok i did that but thats not taking up much space :(03:43
beemerhari - if you do a df -h, you can see a list of what's where on your system as far as space.  Go to the largest path it shows and run a du -sh * and that will list space usage by path, then just drill down using that command and find stuff you can kill off (that's not system related :)03:43
fabian__I will be back in 10...I am off to reboot03:43
beemermeat - forgot about hdparm03:44
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hariok but when we download files for installation using apt they are downloaded to our disk before installation right? if so are they automatically removed after the installatyion?03:45
foobarkthose are in /var/cache/apt/ I think03:45
hariok foobark so can i remove them?03:45
foobarkwell - the nice way is apt-get clean03:46
foobarkI'm sure there is an aptitude equivalent03:46
foobarkapt-get --help will give you some options03:46
foobarkthere's an autoclean too that just does older ones I think03:46
hariok i will try that by the way i found a folder thats abpout 1GB under /var/cache/apt/. hmmm03:46
foobarkor you could just do a: find /var/cache/apt/archives -ctime +30 -exec rm {} \;03:47
hariwhat does that do?03:47
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beemermeat : dma is off, and I can't turn it on - It's got to be the unknown stuff for the nforce chipset :(03:47
foobarkdeletes any files over thirty days old (it'll try anyt directories too but rm'll fail on those)03:47
foobarkstick with apt-get or aptitude clean03:48
meatwad64what does it say when you try to?03:48
hariok let me try with apt options first :(03:48
beemerI have stuff like this in lspci output: 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 03eb (rev a2)03:48
meatwad64i forget what smbus is03:48
foobarkdefinitely - my first answer as a warm up... I need to water down my first couple ideas :)03:48
NickGarveynothing like a good apt-get clean..03:48
beemermeat : HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted (and yeah i used sudo :)03:48
meatwad64hmm what if you set it on boot?03:49
beemerhadn't tried that yet - i doubt that it will tho if a manual switch won't take03:49
blueyedbeemer: there's no DMA on SATA, what you're probably using.03:49
blueyedbeemer: I have an nForce4 chipset here..03:50
beemerblue - cool - you have any issue getting it to work?03:51
hariapt-get clean says03:51
hariE: Could not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (13 Permission denied)03:51
blueyedbeemer: the nforce4? no.. everything works here, even hibernate.. (with a config switch)03:51
meatwad64well i'm sure the dvd is pata though03:51
beemerblue/meat - i have edgy loaded and running - dapper live cd bombed out tho03:52
hariwhat could be the problem?03:52
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meatwad64dapper live cd didn't work at all?03:52
foobarkhari: you have to wear big pants03:52
beemernope - bombed when it tried to load03:52
foobarktry:  sudo apt-get clean03:52
manchickenAnybody know a good spot for 1440x900 wallpapers?03:52
morphishhari: try as root03:52
meatwad64does anyone know how to turn off the thing on the touchpad that clicks in the top right?03:52
hariok :)03:52
beemermb manual says the chipset is a mcp61v03:52
foobarkI'm way more casual with putting on the big boy pants then most people03:53
meatwad64everytime i type i hit it and it messes up what i'm typing very annoying03:53
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meatwad64who makes it?03:53
beemerit's a nf61v mb03:53
hariyes it's done :)03:53
meatwad64but for smbus i'm sure thats normal i've had missing drivers on windows for that and it was fine03:54
beemerhari - do another df -h to check space now03:54
beemerwell i have that same type line for other parts too03:54
fabian__Hello, I am back03:54
meatwad64let me look at my lspci03:54
meatwad6400:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation nForce3 SMBus (rev a4)03:55
hariUsage went from 69% to 50% :)03:55
beemer13 unknowns in my list - only thing it knows for sure is the cpu, wireless, and nv gf7600 card03:55
foobarkhari: another good way to track down disk usage is to do a  du -h --summarize /*03:55
hariok let me try that too :)03:55
foobarkthat'll traverse the file system and tell you the disk usage for each sub dir03:56
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beemerbtw - are the kubuntu forums down?03:56
haribut it takes time though03:56
foobarkoh - it'll take some time03:57
meatwad64i'm not sure beemer03:58
fabian__can someone give me a hint on how to install fluxbox on my kububtu?03:58
letalisif i am upgrading amd64 dapper to edgy was there something extra that i needed to do to upgrade it to the 64 bit version?03:58
harii just upgraded kubuntu from 6.06 to 6.10 and found that my disk space went low thats why i tought maybe some good people from this chat could help me :)03:58
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letalisit looks like it downloaded the standard kernel03:59
hariand they did, thankyou foobark and beemer :)03:59
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tom_Hi! Does anyone know what is needed to play .nsv files with Totem?04:01
foobarkhari: np04:02
hariI must now indulge myself deep into kubuntu :) Thankyou for helping me and maybe I will be back soon with more questions ;)04:02
seishinbyouHow dangerous is apt-get autoremove04:02
harithankyou everybody, bye for now :)04:03
foobarkfabian__:  I think I saw a digg about flux on ubu a while ago04:03
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meatwad64it really shouldn't be this hard to rip cds to mp3...had to go through hoops for this04:03
fabian__I guess I was not here foobark04:04
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tom_Anyone using Totem or VLC for Shoutcast TV?04:04
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foobarkfabian__: doesn't look like they roll it into the repositories04:05
foobarkbut here's a step by step for rolling your own: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11675904:05
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fabian__cheking it04:05
foobarkonce I get my second monitor up and running I might look to replace kdm04:05
duanei keep getting thsi stupid error04:06
foobarkanyone have any experiecen with putting ina second vid card ?04:06
duanesudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp304:06
duaneE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.04:06
duanewhat the hell is the probably04:06
duaneadept wont start either04:06
duanekeeps telling me that there's another app that's trying to use apt04:06
foobarkduane:  one of the installation scripts was interrupted (or couldn't continue)04:06
duanebut i dont have any other apt running04:06
foobarkmaybe try and apt-get -f install04:06
duanesame thing04:07
duanehow do I close the installation script that was interrupted?04:07
foobarkdeep breath - that was just a guess   :)04:07
duanei think it is tho04:07
duanebecause adept crashes everytime i start up kubuntu04:08
duaneit might be hanging or something04:08
foobarkwhat happens when you do the --configure -a?04:08
foobarkI seem to remember there was a --pending option or something04:09
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foobark<- dork... okay - a and --pending are the same04:09
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duaneit works now04:09
foobarkthat wasn't so hard04:11
foobarkhurray for good error messages04:11
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foobarkis there anyone here that has experience with two video card setups?04:13
beemeranyone know how to get nforce4 chipset working? (i have no sound and no dma for drives and can't turn it on)04:14
foobarkor more specifically; how to get an nvidia 7900gs to breath?04:14
foobarkbeemer: the 13 unknowns is tough04:15
foobarkin your lspci or whatever04:15
foobarkmy shotgun method of testing kernel driver support is trying to boot the knoppix dvd04:16
foobarkif that doesn't work then I hit the bricks of google town and hope someone else has my problems04:17
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dalbirdytrying to make vmware work this is the error i get? any help04:28
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foobarkha - I just finished installing vmware... irc rocks04:28
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dalbirdyi had it installed under dapper....but when i upgraded to edgy.....problems start04:29
foobarkso - the problem here is that you have to open up the socket to your x server04:29
foobarkI wish I remembered - I only run into when I go to run a vnc server on a box or something04:29
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foobarklet me go look04:30
intelikey"clear" -----------/\/-------------------------04:32
intelikey------------------------ "doctor give it up. this channel is dead."04:32
m4jqpdoes xorg 7.1 work in ubuntu?04:33
intelikeyis ubuntu linux ?04:33
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aseigom4jqp: 7.1.1 comes with edgy so .. i'd say so04:34
foobarkdalbirdy: go goole your error message and add "vnc"04:34
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foobarkthat may be the issue...04:35
SeanTater!ubuntu| intelikey04:35
ubotuintelikey: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome04:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about draw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:36
foobarkoh sweet... nice bot04:36
SeanTater!lart foobark04:36
SeanTater@lart foobark04:37
SeanTatereh -- works in #ubuntu-offtopic04:37
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-offtopic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:38
foobarklart? readjustment tool?04:38
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SeanTaterfoobark: Lusers Attitude Readjustment Tool04:38
foobarkI see... my reverse acronymer is rusty04:39
m4jqpis edgy > dapper?04:39
SeanTater!edgy | m4jqp04:39
ubotum4jqp: Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)04:39
intelikeyno but  edgy != dapper either04:39
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.04:40
SeanTaterm4jqp: edgy is newer than dapper but less stable04:40
shadowhywindhow can i see if a partition is in readonly mode or not?04:40
SeanTaterm4jqp: dapper is LTS04:40
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SeanTatershadowhywind: try writing to it, or read /etc/fstab04:40
foobarktouch it04:40
intelikeyshadowhywind mount04:41
intelikeyor cat /etc/mtab04:41
shadowhywindfstab says its rw, but for some odd reason, i can't add any files or anything to it04:41
foobarkthis may sound a little gay... but do a man touch04:41
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foobarknot that there's anything wrong with that.04:41
SeanTatershadowhywind: df may give an indication as to how full it is04:42
shadowhywindi still have 17 gbs free on it04:42
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SeanTatershadowhywind: sounds like plenty04:42
intelikeyfstab doesn't know how it "is" mounted only how it's supposed to be mounted.    mount or cat /etc/mtab  knows how it is mounted.04:42
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shadowhywindi just unmounted and mounted it and its fine04:42
intelikeyor cat /proc/mounts04:42
shadowhywindi wonder why it mounted it as rw04:42
shadowhywindas read only i mean04:42
foobarkI like prov/mounts better04:42
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foobarkwhat's the symptom? what happens when you try and touch a file on that partition?04:43
SeanTatershadowhywind: ext3?04:43
shadowhywindi think i found the problem04:43
intelikeyfoobark but that's highly kernel dependant  mtab isn't04:43
dalbirdycant seem to find the problem04:44
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shadowhywind[17180062.376000]  FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sda5) [17180062.376000]      clusters badly computed (131072 != 0) [17180062.376000]      File system has been set read-only04:44
intelikeyumount it and fsck it04:45
shadowhywindis there a flag i have to give to fsck to fix the errors if any?04:45
intelikeyman fsck.vfat04:46
intelikeyi would probably try -af   but that's just me.04:47
shadowhywindwell fsck <drive> didn't really find anything, going to try af04:47
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dalbirdyfoobark still no luck finding the solution....with my error04:54
foobarkdalbirdy: yeah... I had stopped looking. Any time I've seen that error it was because either I didn't have a DISPLAY env set for the shell I was in04:55
foobarkor I didn't allow anyone other then the use who is logged into the gui send it info04:55
foobark(uhg... horrible typing. suffering rsi pains... I'll try again).04:56
foobarkIf I log into the GUI as foobark... then you have to tell X to allow other users permission to send to your display04:56
foobarkI thought it was an xauth command or something04:56
dalbirdyi just need a fix...my wife will kill me if i cant get her stupid windows going04:57
intelikeyi whish is could turn the backlight down on this 17" crt   background 0  is more like dark gray04:58
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Admiral_Chicagodalbirdy: whats the problem04:58
Erich-KHow can I update amarok?04:58
intelikeydalbirdy i'd opt for death....04:58
Admiral_Chicagoah vmware04:58
Admiral_Chicagoi can't help04:58
Admiral_ChicagoErich-K: look on amarok.kde.org04:58
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JucatoErich-K: are you on Dapper or Edgy?04:59
Admiral_ChicagoErich-K: scratch that kubuntu.org http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.4.php04:59
Admiral_Chicagofollow the link04:59
foobarkdalbirdy:  try going to the gui and typing xhost +04:59
Erich-KJucato: Dapper04:59
dalbirdyI upgraded to edgy and now vmware will not work04:59
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: not on Dapper, unfortunately04:59
foobark(in a shell of course)05:00
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: the repo should be on that page, let me check05:00
foobarkthat's the xserver host access command05:00
felixjeti cant eject the cdrom05:00
dalbirdyxhost:  unable to open display ":0.0"05:00
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: nope. only for Edgy05:00
foobarkdo you have a display up?05:00
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: really?05:00
Admiral_Chicagoi see that now05:00
foobarkit's trying to paint a window and doesn't have permission to access the xserver05:01
Admiral_Chicagooh well 1.4.4 is really lame far as i'm concerned, the music store is awful05:01
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intelikeyi whish is could turn the backlight down on this 17" crt   background 0  is more like dark gray   i've got the btightness set to 0 and the contrast set to 40  but it still looks like the sun is shining on the back side of the screen and bleeding through...05:03
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aseigointelikey: have you tried adjusting the gamma?05:04
aseigointelikey: via the control panel for that?05:04
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intelikeyin the console ?05:04
eSeonganyone here could get dlink dwl-122 usb to work on ubuntu ?05:04
intelikeyno i havent tried that in this console aseigo05:05
Erich-KNo 1.4.4 amarok packages for dapper?05:05
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aseigointelikey: there's a gamma correction control panel in kde05:05
JucatoErich-K: none yet. I'm not sure if they'll be making one05:05
aseigointelikey: really useful05:06
Erich-KJucato: alright, thanks anyway05:06
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foobarkdalbirdy: are you running a gui?05:06
intelikeyaseigo doesn't seem to be any gamma control on the monitor05:08
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eSeongaww sad, no one could help me on my dlink ?05:08
Jucatointelikey: KControl  -> Peripherals -> Monitor & Display -> Color & Gamma tab05:09
intelikeyeSeong !i  i'm network illiterate05:09
intelikeyJucato i don't have a gui running05:09
Jucatointelikey: ah05:10
Jucatoyeah ...forgot...05:10
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eSeongintelikey : weee i hope u could help me out of this.05:10
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:11
intelikeyno you stupid bot not wireless.05:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wired - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:12
intelikeyfigures  that is05:12
eSeongintelikey : i was currently having error on my dlink dwl-122 ....05:12
eSeongintelikey : is there any solution for that ?05:12
intelikeyi'm sure there is, eSeong,  but don't ask me what.05:13
foobarkha... I tried to install a dwl-something a while ago05:13
foobarkhad to use a ndis-wrapper05:13
intelikeythat's a thought05:14
eSeongim using wlan..... something05:14
aseigointelikey: no, it's in kcontrol05:14
foobarkit's not a fun thought ...05:14
aseigointelikey: it's a software control05:14
eSeongfoobark : what are u doing now, its working ?05:14
intelikeyaseigo it uses xorg   i'm not.05:14
foobarkwell... I found it much more palatable to use a wrt54gl to get my linux box on the airwaves05:15
foobarkbecause I could only get 802.11b and it was slow...05:15
intelikeyaseigo do you know what a tty (console) is ?05:15
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eSeonghow u work on 802.11b ?05:15
aseigoyes. it's a thing those who can't be bothered to run a modern system use.05:15
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eSeongmind elaborate the instruction..05:16
intelikeyaseigo k  that's me.05:16
eSeongi saw/read many thread in ubuntuforum..05:16
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eSeongbut i can't seem get it work.05:16
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foobarkwell - where are you at now? does it show up when you do a:~$ lspci05:17
intelikeyfoobark maybe something more dirrect like      eSeong command lspci      your card is listed ?05:20
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foobark understood05:21
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foobarkit's not really a good path to go down to... unless you're a glutton for pain eSeong you're far better off spending $20 and buying something you know will work05:21
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intelikeyor the whole internet may be off line on that side of the world...............05:22
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intelikey"can you help me? i think i crashed the internet"    :)05:22
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foobark"I killed a guy with a trident"05:24
intelikeynice.   what did he do ?05:24
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abattoirIE's rendering engine? that's not new :P05:24
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Jucatowhoa! abattoir!!! :)05:24
abattoirhey Jucato :)05:24
abattoirJucato: how are ya?05:25
[g2] On Edgy how do I switch to a usb audio device from the built-in hw ?05:25
foobarkthe "i think I crashed the internet" made me think of that guy in the Anchorman saying that "he killed a guy"05:25
foobarkit was a total non-sequitor05:25
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foobarkthat's almost the way to spell in latin per se'05:25
Jucatoabattoir: doing fine, doing fine :)05:26
Jucatoabattoir: and you?05:26
foobarkI came here to look for some help and all I've done is give crappy interjections :)05:26
intelikeyfoobark lol   welcome to kubuntu05:26
foobarkwell thank you very much05:27
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foobarkit's a nice little side step from debian servers05:27
abattoir[g2] : try changing the device in kmix( i think that's how it's done)05:27
abattoirJucato: a bit tired, exams coming up05:27
[g2] abattoir thx I'll give that a shot05:27
Jucatoabattoir: aw.. good luck then! hope to see you hanging around again soon :)05:28
abattoirJucato: hopefully, i should be here a bit more often from now onwards05:28
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abattoir[g2] : if that doesn't work, we'll need to modify asound.conf05:29
Jucatoabattoir: yeah you never hang around in *our* channel anymore.. (btw, Riddel's there now...)05:29
abattoirJucato: heh, forgot all about it :P05:29
Jucatoabattoir: figures... :(05:30
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Jucatoanyway, gotta go.. lunch :P05:30
intelikeydon't ya just love to be forgotten.....05:30
Jucatointelikey: I'm used to it05:30
abattoirintelikey: it's sometimes nice ;)05:30
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intelikeyi wonder how long a gas well has to be out of production before the leases revert to the land owners.......05:32
intelikeygoing to read up on that.  back afterwards05:32
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dalbirdyfoobark to fix my problem with vmware not working i had to remove05:35
dalbirdynow vmware is working05:35
dalbirdyfo8nd it on this site05:36
foobarkwish I could have been more help05:36
dalbirdyif you want to save it for future refernce05:36
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Emesshow do i get wine to act as xp, like the look of programs and such05:37
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Emessor even to use my kde and bryl theme05:37
dalbirdyim off to bed now05:37
dalbirdysee you guys later05:37
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specialbuddyhow do I set it up so that if I plug a portable harddrive, it always mounts to a certain location05:45
[g2] abattoir thx. There's actually a setting in skype for choosing the adapter05:46
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abattoir[g2] : np :), if you'd sais skype earlier, i'd have redirected you there ;)05:47
[g2] abattoir your karma must have helped alot :)05:47
[g2] well all is working, thx and best regards05:48
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abattoirgreat :)05:48
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mauriciohi. I have some problems with my kubuntu since I've update it for 6.1005:50
mauriciocould someone help me?05:50
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abattoirmauricio: sure, what problems?05:51
specialbuddyhow can is set up my computer to automount usb devices05:51
abattoirspecialbuddy: edgy?05:51
specialbuddyedgy kubuntu05:51
mauriciofirst. After one unsuccessfull hibernate, I cant start a session in KDE.05:52
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abattoirspecialbuddy: do you get the kde media daemon? the popup asking you what to do?05:52
specialbuddyyeah I did but I screwed something up in Disk & Filesystems05:52
abattoirspecialbuddy: if you do, select 'do nothing' and then click 'remember this action', it should then be automounted everytime05:53
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specialbuddyI did that but I screwed it up in Disk & filesystems05:53
abattoirspecialbuddy: hmm, i can't get that module to load...05:54
abattoirspecialbuddy: what exactly did you do there?05:54
specialbuddyI tried to change the mount point05:54
abattoirmauricio: it was working fine in dapper?05:55
mauricioabattoir: I never tried hibernate/suspend in dapper.05:55
Emessis there a way tog et wine apps to use kde or beryl themes?05:56
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abattoirmauricio: sometimes the hardware isn't supported that well by the kernel(for resuming after hibernating/suspending)05:57
abattoirmauricio: which video card?05:57
mauricioabattoir: SIS 740. Ok, but what can I do after this? How can I 'delete' old 'session'.05:58
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abattoirmauricio: works fine here in a 760. from what i've heard, X has issues restarting when you resume, so some input stops working for some, some get a blank screen etc. have you tried restarting X ?05:59
abattoir*so for some, input stops working06:00
mauricioabattoir: I need explain somethin else. In GDM, after a first try to login, a blank screen appears, and minutes later, XDM appears.06:00
abattoirmauricio: you're using GDM to login to GNOME or into KDE?06:01
xsachaanyone know what's wrong with my mic? when i record in KRecord, i have to put volume up to 100% to hear myself.. mic boost i can almost hear myself normally with 100% volume..06:01
mauricioabattoir: Does not matter. The same problem occurs for GNOME or KDE.06:02
abattoirmauricio: yes, that's why i was asking, so it's pretty much confirmed that it's an X issue, have you tried restarting X? Ctrl+Alt+Backspace ?06:02
xsachamy speakers are *very loud* too.. anything over 20% for any other sound and you can hear it downstairs06:02
mauricioabattoir: Yes. If I do that, GDM goes out, and XDM starts.06:03
abattoirmauricio: so i guess, your h/w isn't supported, unless we can find someone who says it works for them...06:05
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abattoirxsacha: have you tried fiddling around w/ the sliders in kmix?06:05
xsachathey are all on 100%06:06
abattoirxsacha: tried unmuting the mic?06:06
xsachaif it was muted i wouldnt get any sound :P06:06
xsachaof course it isnt muted :P06:06
abattoirxsacha: is the green led lit, above the mic?06:06
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xsachaany clues?06:07
abattoirxsacha: nothing other than that :(06:07
abattoirxsacha: has your mic worked at a better vol. before?06:07
xsachaproblem isnt that im not getting input.. it's getting input it's just extreme low06:07
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mauricioabattoir: Ok. but what can I do now to restore my system to normal operation? Since that, I could not start KDE or GNOME normally06:07
xsachayes it works fine @ 20% in windows.. 100% is extremely loud06:07
xsachathat's 20% input and 20% output volume06:08
abattoirmauricio: have you tried rebooting?06:08
xsacha20% output volume works fine in amarok as well.. im using 100% input and 100% output right now06:08
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mauricioabattoir: perhaps about 10 times.06:08
abattoirmauricio: so you can't even log into kde ?06:09
shinobi2i need a calculator to do factorials, any app good for that?06:09
shinobi2will bc work?06:09
abattoirshinobi2: speedcrunch06:09
abattoir!info speedcrunch06:09
ubotuspeedcrunch: high precision calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7~060412-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 190 kB, installed size 592 kB06:09
foobarkmauricio: anything interesting  if you execute the command: tail /var/log/kdm.log06:09
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abattoirshinobi2: oh, wait, it doesn't seem to do factorials, let me confirm...06:11
shinobi2abattoir: command not found, synaptic shows i have it installed06:11
abattoirshinobi2: it should be in the menu06:12
abattoirshinobi2: but i can't see ! anywhere sorry06:12
xsachaabattoir: it turns out my mic volume doesnt matter.. i had it on 0% and 100% and get same volume.. the Capture volume and the AC97 volume doesnt affect it either -- any ideas? the other ones in input are turned off (aux, linein..)06:13
shinobi2abattoir: found it06:13
xsachawhen i turn mic off it works too -- same volume06:13
shinobi2abattoir: k-menu, then utilities06:14
abattoirxsacha: go to switches, see if the right mic  is selected, if you have multiple mics06:14
xsachai just have one mic.. and mic1 is selected.. mic2 doesnt work06:14
xsachaif i disable "Capture" in input, i get no input06:14
mauricioabattoir: foobark: I can log into KDE if I wait some minutes. Then the new session is like a 'secondary' session. Only options to close session, None for shutdown or restart.06:14
xsachabut Capture's volume on 0% is same as 100%06:14
AlphaxAre .jigdo files available for the desktop cds?06:15
shinobi2abattoir: 9! did not work , is there a special way to input it? or it just doesn't support it?06:15
abattoirshinobi2: ok, kcalc has it, it was dropped in favour of speedcrunch06:15
abattoirshinobi2: mmm, i told you it doesnt work in speedcrunch :(06:15
abattoirshinobi2: it does in kcalc though, so please install that06:15
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abattoirmauricio: did you try what foobark said?06:16
mauricioabattoir: Yes. /var/log/kdm.log does not exists. /var/log/gdm/:0.log exists. There is only messages about fonts not found.06:17
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shinobi2abattoir: kool, i can verify my factorial function now06:18
mauricioabattoir: I dont think so. There is more strange facts. /dev/null has mode 0600 and if I try log in by console, bash shows several errors about /dev/null.06:20
xsachaok the mic volume is affecting it now.. but it's going from no sound to little sound..06:20
AlphaxSo. is a .jigdo file available for the Desktop ISO?06:20
mauricioabattoir: If I chmode of /dev/null, after a reboot, it is 0600 again.06:20
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mauricioabattoir: I already checked /etc/udev/40-pemrissions.rules, but in this file, /dev/null has mode 0666 (as expected).06:23
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T3hWiz0rdhmm mcan anyone tell me where to check why amarok crashed?06:28
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mauricioabattoir: thanks for your attention. I realy need sleep. If you could, talk about my problem with others. I post my problem in ubuntu forum, Find by 'mkanada'. Is my nick in this forum. Bye.06:29
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seishinbyouHas anyone ever set up a gaiji server on Debian/Ubuntu?  The only such servers I ever see are for Windows06:32
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stanleyhow dose this work?06:32
abattoiroops, sorry, had to go afk06:32
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seishinbyouI realize this is probably a .jp problem only... and possibly .zh, but in general terms, is it possible to set up a server such that characters not in a standard character set are displayed with a bitmap?06:34
seishinbyouSorry, this is a bit odd of a situation to explain06:35
seishinbyouThere is a graph and explanation (in .jp) here if anyone can help : http://www.dynacw.co.jp/solution/ev/index.html06:36
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Emesssi there a way to unmap shift-bckspc to killing x?06:42
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starignusi have a problem tu burn cd-R i use gonome baker06:44
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starignusbut it is qhen i want to import a new sesion06:44
specialbuddydoes anyone know how to get xgl working with kubuntu06:44
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starignus <specialbuddy> have you install compiz06:46
specialbuddyI got it work with gnome but not kde06:46
starignusyou have a nvidua06:47
specialbuddyI have beryl working with gnome06:47
starignus<specialbuddy> have you seen this page maybe there is something http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-205-6.html06:49
starignusi have a problem tu burn cd-R i use gonome baker but  when i want to import a new sesion it dismount the cd-r06:50
specialbuddydo you know how to restore kubuntu back to the way it was when it was first installed06:50
specialbuddybecause messed a few things up already06:50
seishinbyouyou mean other than just reinstalling the OS from the CD?06:50
specialbuddytry k3b06:50
specialbuddyother then that06:50
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seishinbyouIf you wanted to start over anyways, it is probably faster to just reinstall from the CD than to muck about reversing any nasty damage... from mucking about06:51
seishinbyouI was able to reinstall the OS from scratch and get my development environment up in about an hour06:51
starignusi have before k3b but i doesnt work06:51
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sebastian222please i need some help installing icons in kde06:52
starignus <specialbuddy> have you aready helped06:53
abattoirsebastian222: have you downloaded a tar.gz file?06:53
sebastian222but it says that it's not a valid icon thme file06:54
specialbuddyhave I already helped?06:54
abattoirsebastian222: which theme is this? are there instructions where you downloaded it from?06:54
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sebastian222i download it from kdelook06:54
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sebastian222no instructions06:54
abattoirsebastian222: url?06:54
amirHi guys06:54
sebastian222its the osk theme06:54
abattoirsebastian222: no, the specific url where you downloaded from... not the site06:55
amirhow many people are on this channel?06:56
abattoiramir: 28706:56
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sebastian222I've found some instructions06:56
starignusi have a problem tu burn cd-R i use gonome baker but  when i want to import a new sesion it dismount the cd-r, does it close the cd,-r? that is why the cd is unmounted06:57
Jucatonot all are *really* here though06:57
amirI was wondering if anyone would be willing to help answer some questions I have about kubuntu?06:57
sebastian222abattoir: thanks, im gonna try the instructions06:57
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abattoiramir: sure, ask first though ;)06:57
starignus<abattoir>i have a problem tu burn cd-R i use gonome baker but  when i want to import a new sesion it dismount the cd-r, does it close the cd,-r? that is why the cd is unmounted06:57
Jucatostarignus: you installed gnome baker on Kubuntu? you might try asking in #ubuntu because it's their app06:58
abattoirstarignus: umm, not sure, do as Jucato says, or try K3B ;)06:58
amirabattoir, would you recommend kubuntu for someone who is new to linux yet wants to learn?06:58
amiror another form of linux?06:58
abattoiramir: sure, why not?06:58
starignus<Jucato> no i haven try it but i have ubuntu with gonome06:58
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Jucatostarignus: ah.. because this is #kubuntu, so most wouldn't probably know how gnome baker works06:59
abattoirstarignus: try asking in #ubuntu , as Jucato said before06:59
abattoiri guess people on Ubuntu install konversation, seeing it's an IRC client, and the first channel they get to is #kubuntu07:00
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starignus<abattoir> sorry but i dont understand that of  #ubuntu, could you be kind to explain me, thanks07:00
abattoirstarignus: click on #ubuntu , the blue link07:00
Jucatoabattoir: that would be strange. don't they install xchat-gnome by default?07:00
abattoirstarignus: otherwise, type '/join #ubuntu'07:00
Jucatoor they expect users to use GAIM for IRC too?07:01
abattoirstarignus: you should join the Ubuntu support channel where people who know more about Gnomebaker reside07:01
starignus <abattoir>ok i saw now07:01
starignusthak you very much07:01
abattoirJucato: don't know if they come w/ an IRC client installed by default :P07:01
abattoirstarignus: you're welcome :)07:02
Jucatook that would be weird :)07:02
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EndlerI hate the dumbed-down kbuntu konq mod, so I reverted it back to standard via the instructions on kubuntu webpage.  It mostly worked expcept for one thing.  All the view options drop down from a single  button instead of the the standard three buttons.  How do I revert that?  I examined the toolbar config, but it'sn not using standard buttons for that.07:03
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abattoirJucato: someone on #ubuntu says no ;)07:03
Jucatoabattoir: golly, you're there, too?!07:03
abattoirJucato: no, just went there to find out :P07:04
EndlerI am now :))07:04
Jucatoabattoir: lol :)07:04
EndlerI'm back to my original question :)07:04
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abattoirEndler: am looking, one sec07:04
JucatoEndler: it was a patch that the devs made to combine the 3 buttons into one. I'm not sure how to revert to the original07:05
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EndlerOh.  Why???07:05
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Jucatosaves space?07:05
EndlerIt is much more convenient the other way.07:05
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monurhi, i am trying to install kubuntu edgy, but when i boot into the cd, it shows a progress indicator for some time, but then falls back into the console. what could be the problem?07:05
amirwhat other types of KDE desktops are there other than kubuntu?07:06
JucatoEndler: if you remember, in Dapper and Breezy, those buttons weren't even there. They decided to bring them back in Edgy, but it took too much space on the toolbar.07:06
EndlerI have plenty of space.07:06
JucatoEndler: also notice that the back/forward/up/refresh/home buttons and the location field are in one toolbar by default07:06
EndlerI've just put Kubuntu on my notebook.07:07
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Ayabara_after doing a dist upgrade my kubuntu install won't start. when I run in recovery mode, it stops at "Running local boot scripts (etc/rc.local)". help...07:07
abattoirmonur: did you try booting through the 'safe mode'07:07
EndlerThe install went very smoothly and I really like apept.07:07
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joeshmohiya guys07:07
monurabattoir: yes, unfortunately to the same result07:08
EndlerI'm not a big fan of distro mods to standard programs though.07:08
Endlerother than bug fixes07:08
joeshmowait a min, is this the kbuntu section, meaning ubuntu using kde07:08
Ayabara_bah. never mind my Q. it didn't hang there after all07:08
JucatoEndler: hm... Gentoo? Slack? Arch? (MEPIS maybe?)07:08
monurabattoir: I also checked the cd for defects, it said 0 checksum errors07:08
abattoirmonur: could you try startx in the console?07:08
Jucatojoeshmo: in a way, yes07:08
amirkubuntu is KDE07:08
xsachaCRUX :)07:08
amirhaha yeah07:08
Jucatoamir: actually, Kubuntu is a Linux distribution. KDE is a desktop environment07:09
abattoirmonur: iirc, it's supposed to say something like 'Verification successful/pased"07:09
joeshmois there any one for the gnome environment with ubuntu?07:09
Jucatojoeshmo: #ubuntu07:09
EndlerYou mean they Kubuntu makes a lot of modifications to programs UI's?07:09
joeshmothank you jucato07:09
JucatoEndler: konqueror mostly. but not much.07:09
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EndlerIf so why, because otherwise it is working well for me on the notebook, and I plan on staying with it.07:09
Ayabara_any advice as to how I can fix a dapper->edgy upgrade that went wrong?07:09
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xsachaanyone know what package i need to compile win32 binaries?07:10
JucatoEndler: same question back at you: why not?07:10
Alphaxxsacha, mingw07:10
EndlerWhy fix something that's not broken, and why would a distro think it can do it better than the team that works on it full-time?07:11
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JucatoEndler: each and every distribution have their own goals, their own target users, their own way of doing things. which means that at times, they customize stuff in order to fit those goals07:11
Endler+ it makes it hard to support friends07:11
Alphaxdon't know where it is in ubuntu though07:11
Endlerthat are not on the exact same distro07:11
JucatoEndler: the same could be said of every other (major) distro07:11
xsachaEndler: they arent exactly adding to it, .. they are just moving stuff around to make it suit their distro07:11
monurabattoir: startx says 'screens found, but none have a usable configuration'07:11
abattoir!info mingw3207:11
ubotumingw32: Minimalist GNU win32 (cross) compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version (edgy), package size 9779 kB, installed size 43168 kB07:11
abattoirAlphax: ^^^^07:12
monurabattoir: is it possibly b/c the computer is a wide screen?07:12
EndlerWhat exactly were they trying to "fix?"07:12
JucatoEndler: but if you know KDE enough, you'd be able to help them, no matter what distro they use. of course in some cases (like those View Buttons), there might be some confusion07:12
abattoirmonur: no, that shouldn't be a problem07:12
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JucatoEndler: not reallyu "fixing" but catering/customizing. and sometimes fixing too07:12
abattoirmonur: this is the normal mode or the safe mode?07:13
xsachathat "System Settings" thing07:13
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monursafe mode07:13
EndlerCatering to whom?  I can't imagine what the advantage of the mod is.07:13
JucatoSystem Settings is *not* a total KControl replacement. it's supposed to be a lightweight settings app. having only the most used stuff07:13
EndlerIf it's just that one thing, I'm OK07:13
abattoirmonur: is this very old/bleeding edge hardware?07:13
EndlerI'm just hoping they didn't mod a lot of other programs.07:14
monurabattoir: it's a toshiba satellite m6507:14
abattoirmonur: the video card07:14
JucatoEndler: to "regular" desktop users. (and don't give me that argument about "average" joe. you already know what a-seigo said about that)07:14
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JucatoEndler: unfortunately, that's not what Kubuntu does or what Kubuntu wants to do. You just might feel more comfortable with other distros. For example, MEPIS I think rarely does any UI customization (more of code optimization probably). and they're based on Kubuntu. you might want to check that out07:15
EndlerI don't believe the mod makes it easier.07:15
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JucatoEndler: for you maybe not. for others, maybe07:15
Jucatoanyway, this is quite -offtopic stuff so...07:16
amirIs there a quick way to go to kubuntu from ubuntu instead of downloading, and burning a new ISO?07:16
EndlerWell I've set the regular one up for a lot of "average joes" and none have complained about too many options.07:16
Endleron the standard config.07:16
monurabattoir: it's my friend's laptop. I checked the spec on toshiba web site, it says intel graphics media accelerator 90007:17
EndlerI'm already using Frugalware, BTW which makes no mods expect bug fixes.07:17
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abattoirmonur: weird, i'd expect it to work fine..07:17
Jucatoamir: if you have a good internet connection (broadband probably), you can just download the necessary packages to install Ubuntu07:17
EndlerBut they upgrade at such a furious pace07:17
JucatoEndler: I think Arch and Gentoo don't make any mods, because *that* is one of their goals07:18
Endlerit's OK for me, but...07:18
EndlerI want another one to recommend07:18
amirwell I want to go to kubuntu from ubuntu Jucato07:18
seishinbyouamir-> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:18
amirthank you07:18
Jucatoseishinbyou: er.. other way around07:18
seishinbyouHeh, he said from Ubuntu to Kubuntu07:19
Jucatoerr nvm me07:19
Jucatoyeah I got confused :P07:19
Jucatosorry amir :)07:19
EndlerSo what other mods has kubuntu made that I should be aware off?07:19
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ubotuEndler: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles07:19
amirNp Jucato, does it switch me over to kubuntu, or will ubuntu still be on my notebook?07:19
Jucatoamir: ubuntu will still be there07:20
amirhow do I choose to run Kubuntu or ubuntu?07:20
Alphaxamir, they're the same distro, just with KDE instead of GNOME07:20
JucatoEndler: you also have to take note that one of the goals of this release (Edgy) is to try out new stuff, new implementations, etc07:20
monurabattoir: in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, the previous error is: I810(0): No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth.07:20
JucatoEndler: so a lot of the changes here are completely new to Kubuntu07:20
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amirAlphax, yeah I was reading about that, I heard Kubuntu is more like windows so its easier for someone who is new to linux. That's why I want to get kubuntu07:21
AlphaxHrm. I may have been misled.07:21
EndlerI don't care so much about that.  I always have view hidden on anyway.  I'm more concerned about mods to the applications themselves.07:21
seishinbyouI like KDE anyways.  However, you can choose to use GNOME or KDE at the login screen if you have both installed07:21
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JucatoEndler: none that I remember or know of. And most mods can be reverted. I just haven't asked about that view button07:22
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T3hWiz0rdwho missed me? :-)07:22
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JucatoEndler: come to think of it, how do I add that button? (I forgot...)07:23
EndlerWell let me know if you  find out.  :)07:23
EndlerMy notebook is running great, so I'd rather not change it :)07:23
sebastian222I need some help please. In gnome I have an application that let me copy files, etc as sudo always. Is there a way to do this in KDE?07:23
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Jucatosebastian222: run Konqueror as root: press Alt+F2 and type in "kdesu konqueror"07:24
sebastian222ohh great!07:24
EndlerWhat button?07:24
Jucatosebastian222: but be very very careful and remember to close it immediately after you use it07:24
sebastian222how to close it?07:24
JucatoEndler: the view mode button (the one that was combined into 1 button from 3 buttons)07:24
xsachaclick X in corner :P07:24
Jucatosebastian222: it's just Konqueror launched as root/sudo07:25
sebastian222it's a new window07:25
sebastian222sorry didn't noticed that07:25
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.07:25
EndlerYou just delete a  couple of kubuntu config files that override the default settings.07:25
JucatoI don't have the kubuntu defaults :)07:25
EndlerIt's listed right on the Kubuntu main page, I think.07:25
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EndlerIt's on the most frequently asked questions list07:26
yonkeltronis there a safe way to change the default python version?07:26
abattoirmonur: could you try increasing the shared memory size for the video through the BIOS ?07:26
EndlerSome I'm not alone in hating that mod, I guess ;)07:26
NapaHow can I get gaim in Kubuntu?07:26
Ademansudo apt-get gaim?07:26
JucatoEndler: no. I just chose not to because I'm making my own mods07:26
JucatoNapa: through Adept or apt-get like what Ademan said07:26
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JucatoNapa: have you tried Kopete?07:27
NapaI found it07:27
Napakopete suxx07:27
abattoir*sudo apt-get install gaim07:27
xsachagah, how do i compile a win32 project then? configure doesnt want to work because it doesnt know how to run a .exe07:27
EndlerWell revert it back the the original and mod it from there.07:27
EndlerAny way you like.07:27
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amirWhat messaging program do you use in kubuntu then?07:27
Ademanhey the k3d package failed to install (not k3b, this is a 3d modeling program) and it failed on the post-install script, now whenever i try to do anything with apt it first tries to run that stupid post-install script and it keeps failing and blocking me from doing anything else, including removing the offending package, what can i do?07:27
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amirxsacha, is it any good? can I go on AIM, ICQ, IRC on it?07:28
JucatoEndler: you might want to remove the package "kubuntu-default-settings" but it may mess up a few stuff (wallpapers, color schemes, login screen, splash screen)07:28
NapaaMsn is Ok07:28
xsachayes amir..07:28
JucatoEndler: but that gets rid of most of Kubuntu's defaults... including service menus...07:28
amiralright, thank you07:28
xsachaand jabber and the rest of them07:28
EndlerI use gaim because that's what I started with and it works well, but I'm sure Kopete is great too.07:28
xsachai dont like gaim :P and it was first one i used07:28
JucatoI never liked GAIM, on Linux or on XP... :(07:29
Endler2.0beta4 is good.07:29
xsachaand it doesnt make much sense running gnome apps on kde.. not with 512MB ram anyway07:29
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EndlerKopete won't do chatrooms, will it?07:29
EndlerLike Yahoo chat?07:29
draikIs there a deb for firefox 2.0?07:29
EndlerThat's why I started with gaim.07:30
xsachadont know, i dont have a yahoo account07:30
JucatoEndler: I think it does now. not 100% sure07:30
Jucatodraik: from the repos I think07:30
EndlerI've been planning on trying it.07:30
draikJucato, I have tried that already07:30
draik"latest version"07:30
draikor maybe in edgy?07:30
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draikI'm still on drake07:30
Jucatomy Firefox 2.0 is weird too... doesn't save sessions...07:30
Jucatooh yeah... Edgy only07:30
EndlerWell, I've noticed that Kubuntu moded the control center, BUT still left the old one behind too.07:30
monurabattoir: thanks, we solved it by changing the driver to vesa in /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:31
JucatoEndler: no. System Settings is not KControl07:31
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xsachasystem settings is: systemsettings07:31
JucatoEndler: you can still run KControl or put it in the K Menu07:31
EndlerI know.  I'm fine with that cause I can use either.07:31
abattoirmonur: hmm, i thought the safe mode did just that, anyway, it's good if it works :)07:31
EndlerBut I did notice the "Storage Devices" is missing.07:32
JucatoEndler: you can use the search field to look for it07:32
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EndlerWhere it gives you a bar graph of your partitions usage.07:32
Jucatohuh? I don't think that's Storage Devices07:32
xsachagrr they dont have handwriting in kopete yet07:33
EndlerIt's not a stand alone app.  It's in control center normally07:33
EndlerWhere is it in Kubuntu?07:33
JucatoEndler: can't find one like that in KControl07:33
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EndlerI know? :)  Where'd it go? :)07:33
xsachalast time i installed KDE from source i never saw any storage devices :S07:34
Jucatoneither did I07:34
EndlerThat's a useful  one for a quick visual overview of all partitions usage07:34
Jucatowhich distro did you use before Kubuntu? they might have added something like that07:34
EndlerOh, sorry, I meant it is usually part of KInfoCenter07:34
Ademanhey the k3d package failed to install (not k3b, this is a 3d modeling program) and it failed on the post-install script, now whenever i try to do anything with apt it first tries to run that stupid post-install script and it keeps failing and blocking me from doing anything else, including removing the offending package, what can i do?07:35
Jucatothen it's in KInfoCenter07:35
xsachaoh, Partitions..? that's not graphical though07:35
EndlerBut it's missing in Kubuntu07:35
Jucato(I think)07:35
EndlerI know.  Usually there is both07:35
Endlerpartitions is still there.07:35
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JucatoI don't ever recall it being there at all07:35
xsachait could have been an additional package07:35
draikHow do I install the Firefox 2.0?07:35
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xsachainfocenter looks same as it did from source :S07:36
EndlerMaybe.  I wonder what package that would be.07:36
JucatoEndler: what distro did you use before Kubuntu?07:36
EndlerI'm using Frugalware on my Desktop and now Kubuntu on my notebook.07:37
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Jucatomaybe they added a package for that07:37
Jucatothe only thing I know of that does something similar to that is kdf (kdiskfree) but it's a standalone app iirc07:37
EndlerFrugalware is very nice, but they jump the gun at on Xorg an always want to use the very latest even when drivers aren't ready for it.  That's my only beef.07:38
Jucatodraik: maybe the same way you install firefox from .tar.gz...07:38
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draikJucato, how?07:38
Jucato!firefox | draik07:39
ubotudraik: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins07:39
xsachaisnt firefox 2.0 in repository for you? :S or is this dapper?07:39
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xsachathis is kdf: http://www.gentoo-portage.com/up_img/img_800px/742.png07:41
EmessJucato: somehow shift-backspac is killing X, and it sint listed in my hotkeys, any idea how to stop it?07:41
Johnsandmanwanna play khangman for my son got this message >> SSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/share/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (373) what is wrong07:41
EndlerYeah, it looks a lot like that.07:41
xsachaEmess: xmodmap doesnt work? :S07:41
JucatoEmess: don't know really... and it won't be in the hotkeys because it's not a KDE config. it's an X config07:41
EndlerBut is a kinfocenter module07:41
Emessno, it jsut opens kate with the file at startup xsacha07:42
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xsachayou put it in wrong :S07:42
Emessi did?07:42
Emessi pasted exactly what you dsid07:42
xsachait shouldnt be opening the file, it runs it07:42
EndlerI must say, Adapt sure works a lot smoother than Suse's Yast.07:44
amiris anyone else as excited for the Borat movie as I am?07:45
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EndlerYast works like it's covered in molasses.07:45
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draikThank you Jucato07:46
draikI will get on that ASAP07:46
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sebastian222can someones recommend me a good aplication that works like a cxalendar and all that for kde07:49
sebastian222i mean an organizer07:49
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cpk1an organizer?07:51
ninodont use that sorry07:51
cpk1like kontact?07:51
sebastian222something that let you add to do things07:51
sebastian222i mean like a calendar07:51
sebastian222something like that07:52
ninoso use knotes07:52
sebastian222is there anything more complete?07:52
sebastian222i mean with a calendar view and all that07:52
momalanyone use squid here? or has used it before? the speed limiting doesn't want to work >_<07:53
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ninomabe check freshmeat.net for something07:53
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ninome me me me07:53
sebastian222ok i will07:53
ninoi've got squid on ipcop only07:54
jelsebastian222: korganizer (also in kontact)07:54
momalnino: have you used the delay access stuff under squid before ?07:54
ninonope ive got a traffic shaping thingy only07:55
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jelsebastian222: korganizer has a fairly complete to-do list with alarms etc.  I find the alarms a bit unreliable, though, which is its only downside.  KArm integrates with it, and will let you time how long you work on things.  It also presents a simpler to-do list in its own right.   There is also KAlarm, KNotes, basket, and ....uhh... some project management app, which is fairly new and unfinished.  For better project management, look07:56
jelinto Planner.07:56
jel(Planner is for GNOME)07:56
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royceWhats with all the Joining and Leaving -_-;;08:09
ninoooi donno08:09
ninolooks like a shit change lloll08:09
ninoshift sorry08:09
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amirCould someone tell me how to get window video codes to play in kubuntu?08:12
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osiris!restricted formats > amir08:16
osirisamir, follow the link ubotu sent you08:16
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ninoanyone using frostwire in kubuntu => no connection!!08:23
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osirisi use it.  works fine.  other than the fact the last time i launched it it hard locked my box.08:29
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ninoit wont connect08:29
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osirischecked all your firewalls ?  are the ports forwarded ?08:29
ninoim running a transparent proxy and there should not be a problem08:29
ninono no port forwarding08:30
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osirisno idea.  i dont use proxies08:30
ninoshould i forward the port on my router?08:30
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freewillwil there be a torrent download for the cd of edgy or just dvd?08:30
ninoi dont have a clue how, but ill try08:31
osirisnino, the ports are listed in the preferences of frostwire.  Your router, you have to figure out08:31
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osirisits not hard though.  if you know how to log into the router, and what your ip is08:32
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freewillis there a torrent download for the cd of edgy?08:32
osirisno idea08:33
ninologged into my router!!08:33
ninowill it be under inbound services??08:33
osirisi have NO idea what kind of router you have08:34
xsachaunder forward ports, firewall or something similar..08:34
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ninonetgear, it asks me what service tcp udp??08:34
osirisif its a linksys it might be under applications and gaming08:34
osirisnino, probably tcp, but you can write a rule for each protocol just to be sure08:35
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avalonI'm having problems upgrading to edgy from dapper. I've tried doing the dist-upgrade after changing my sources list and that completely fawked everything up. Now I can't even get my linux to boot. I've got my CD of edgy now though. Can I tell it to install over what I screwed up without losing my home directory and my files?08:42
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scheurig'day all08:48
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nino_had to bypass my ipcop firewall for a connection to frostwire08:53
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seishinbyouHmm, apart from waiting patiently, is there any way I can help to get the special function keys/combos working on my laptop?08:57
abattoirseishinbyou: edgy?08:57
abattoiri thought it worked ootb08:58
abattoirseishinbyou: none of them work?08:58
seishinbyouFor most "normal" PCs, yes08:58
seishinbyouThis is the obscure laptop from J-land, though08:58
seishinbyouSome of them work08:58
seishinbyouthe ones I really would like don't08:58
seishinbyouBrightness/Contrast, Eject CD, external monitor display08:59
abattoirseishinbyou: those work or don't work?08:59
seishinbyouoh, volume, too08:59
abattoirhmm,afaik brightness control is directly relayed to the h/w09:00
abattoirseishinbyou: which make/model?09:00
seishinbyouLaVie LN502C09:01
abattoiror is it something too advanced that hasn't hit the rest of the world09:01
abattoiroh :P09:01
seishinbyouAlso, widescreen res, but I got that working09:01
abattoiryou mean 800?09:02
seishinbyouno, 60009:02
seishinbyouSame as the libretto L109:02
abattoirseishinbyou: maybe setting the keyboard model to "Japanese 106-key" would work?09:02
abattoirseishinbyou: in Kcontrol->Keyb. Layout->Keyb. model09:03
seishinbyouI tried already; that is what I am using atm09:03
seishinbyousince I do work in a JP environment09:03
seishinbyouI tried setting it to a US layout for fun, but no luck09:03
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abattoirseishinbyou: do the brightness keys work before linux is loaded? or in windows?09:05
seishinbyouThe brightness keys work in Windows, but not anywhere else09:05
seishinbyouI can use the external monitor switch key in Windows and at the Grub bootloader actually, but not when Kubuntu is loading or is loaded up09:05
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seishinbyouThe CD Eject system on this is just bizarre, though.09:07
bianconerihi is there a way to install moodbar in amarok via apt-get?09:08
abattoirbianconeri: nope09:08
abattoirbianconeri: you'd have to compile w/ the flag on, but i think there were some issues w/ it, hence it's temporarily suspended or something like that09:09
bianconeriSo I should wait on it?09:09
B-MinusI have difficulties installing certificates in firefox, does anyone get a downloadscreen on this page ? https://citrix.essers.com/Citrix/MetaFrame/default/rootcertificate.html09:09
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abattoirbianconeri: i think so, try asking at #amarok09:11
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justin_Can anybody help me with a problem09:14
seishinbyoudepends on your problem :)09:14
justin_It has to do with a edgy upgrade09:14
Mike2k6we can try :-p09:14
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justin_I just up graded09:14
justin_like 20 minutes ago09:14
Mike2k6from? to?09:14
justin_and now my damn raid wont load09:14
Mike2k6from drap to edgy09:15
justin_from dapper to edgy09:15
abattoirseishinbyou: is it an NEC?09:15
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justin_One sec09:15
ElectrolyteDo people who go from 32-bit to 64-bit feel any speed increase?09:16
seishinbyouabattoir: Yes, but I can't find my model on the JP pages anymore...too old, maybe?09:16
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seishinbyoujustin_: is it related to this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/5274009:16
abattoirseishinbyou: found something on MX LX 60T/709:16
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seishinbyouabattoir: Well, different model, but if it will help...09:17
abattoirwow, what complicated names NEC LaVie MX LX60T/709:17
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abattoirseishinbyou: nothing useful http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~jcl/linux/lavie/nec_lavie.html09:17
justin_I dont think so09:18
seishinbyouMeh, but at least I know this isn't the only model with suspend/hibernate issues09:18
justin_I will type the error message09:18
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justin_this comes up when I attempt to enable it through disk and fs undersystem settings09:19
justin_The system reported: mount: wronf fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/md009:20
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justin_missing codepage or other error09:20
justin_(could this be the device where you in fact use ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?)09:20
justin_In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so09:21
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justin_I cannot format this raid09:21
justin_It is out of the question09:22
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justin_any suggustions09:22
abattoirseishinbyou: yeah, but that's redhat 7.1, the world has changed a lot since then ;)09:22
eilkerwhen i open computer instead of kde login screen, console comes in front of me, whe i write startx , it says "xauth: creating new authority file" "user not authrized to run x server" i close console, kde login screen comes, it doesnt accept my password, from menu i say go to console, and i write startx in console, than i am able to get desktop....any idea pls ?09:22
seishinbyouabattoir: Yes, I agree, but I still have issues with hibernate/suspend.  It blows my coworker's mind because hibernate/suspend has always worked on his laptop09:23
justin_seishinbyou ?09:24
justin_any ideas09:24
seishinbyoujustin_:  I'm not sure what to say.  I am googling around and find nothing but problems with RAID on edgy : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/6830809:24
seishinbyouI'm still searching09:24
justin_well is there a way to unupgrade09:24
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seishinbyouI don't think there is a nice way to downgrade without breaking more packages along the way09:27
jeljustin_: not en masse, no.  You can download individual packages and install them.  There's probably a way to specify which version you want to install with apt-get install, too.   apt-get install packagename=version, maybe?09:27
justin_What did you just say?09:27
justin_I am sorry09:27
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justin_Individual packages?09:28
justin_I just want my raid to work09:28
jeljustin_: the big problem is, the packages only have information about compatibility with older versions, so they don't know what newer packages have to be removed etc.09:28
justin_All of my school shit is on it09:28
eilkerhelp pls, what is this dump xorg for ??when i open computer instead of kde login screen, console comes in front of me, whe i write startx , it says "xauth: creating new authority file" "user not authrized to run x server" i close console, kde login screen comes, it doesnt accept my password, from menu i say go to console, and i write startx in console, than i am able to get desktop....any idea pls ?09:28
jeljustin_: what's wrong with your raid?09:28
duanehey does adept update crash for anyone else on startup?09:28
duanei get this little green icon in the tray which closes at startup09:28
justin_It just wont load after I upgraded to edgy from dapper09:29
jelduane: adept is crap.  Use synaptic (or aptitude)09:29
justin_It wont mount09:29
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justin_It worked perfectly fine with dapper09:29
duanejel: i dont believe in not using package managers that come with the distro09:29
jeljustin_: ahh, I think I saw other people discussing that on the ubuntu forums.  You might want to search for it and see what's being said.09:29
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duaneand i like adept better than synaptic :/09:30
jelduane: it's a different interface to exactly the same package management system; not dangerous at all.09:30
duanebut it's gtk09:30
jelduane: and, I do agree, with the likes of rpm or smart09:30
justin_what should I search09:30
jelduane: I know, it sucks.  But honestly, it's your best option right now.09:30
duaneyou're right :(09:30
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duanewell no09:31
duanei haven't used synaptic in awhile09:31
duanedoes it have something that catches updates?09:31
duanei cant remember09:31
duaneit's not adept that is out of wack it's adept updater09:31
jeljustin_:  if you go to slashdot, and search for edgy upgrade, you should find a recent story that links to the discussions.09:31
scheurijel: you mean the story which is completely useless? ;)09:32
jelduane: on gnome, yes.  There is another tool, which emails you when updates are available.  Install synaptic, and use it to find apt utilities :)09:32
duaneyea i just need something that catches updates09:33
duanei dont need anything else flooding my emails09:33
jelscheuri: stories aren't useless, they're the conveyors of wisdom though the ages!   But... what's useless about it?  ;)09:33
duanei like adept updater i dont know why its broken in edgy09:33
duaneok next problem09:34
scheurijel: in my opinion its just another "upgrading" story...which has no valid background at all....people are talking "yes it worked" and "no, it didnt"...but most of them do not provide any details of their cofiguration09:34
Mike2k6kdevelop does not come with a compiler does it?09:35
duanewhy does flash 9 crash my web browsers after about 10 minutes of browsing every time?09:35
scheuriduane: because flash 9 is beta?09:35
duaneMike2k6: i THINK installing kdevelop thru a package manager will install gcc09:35
jelscheuri: agreed.  It does provide a relatively easy to find link to the details of one upgrader's issues though, if I remember correctly, and that mentions the raid problem that justin_ is having.09:35
duanei cant remember tho09:35
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duaneonly distro i've used kdevelop on is fedora09:36
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duaneand i think fedora comes with gcc09:36
duanei dont know why ubuntu doesnt ship with gcc and g++09:36
duanescheuri: i know that but jeez09:36
jelduane: probably because it's new and has bugs.09:36
scheurijel: ah, okay...the raid issue...its actually the only real proven thing...everything else ist just "blabla"09:36
Mike2k6duane, i dont think it came with gcc, is that gnu cc by chance?09:37
scheuriduane: it does ship with it...but it is not installed by default09:37
jelscheuri: yeah, mostly it's people who screwed with their setups and then expected ubuntu to magically upgrade for them.09:37
Mike2k6guess ill sudo apt-get install gcc09:37
duanescheuri: you know what i mean09:37
justin_So am I just fucked09:37
duaneMike2k6: cant remember09:38
scheuriduane: no, sorry...I dont....you said shipped...but if it is asked to much to install it manually, then...I dont knoe09:38
justin_I read multiple threads and all they consisted of were people complaining about raids being broken09:38
jelscheuri: although, if we had decent config tools, like a section/key/value system for settings, upgrades would be a lot less painful than the package manager not understanding modified config files.09:38
seishinbyouWell, I don't know if you are completely screwed, but I honestly don't know what to suggest at this exact moment besides keep reading/searching09:39
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duanescheuri: not really, but i still dont see why something that comes standard already installed on most distros isnt on ubuntu09:39
jeljustin_: on the ubuntu site, or slashdot?  People will complain on slashdot, but hopefully answers will appear on the ubuntu forums09:39
duaneespecially when most users are nerd programmers anyway :P09:39
scheurijel: well, I personally would first try to find out how the sources.list of the people looks who had troubles upgrading...:)...maybe lots of other repos? universe causing problems? dont know09:39
scheuriduane: well, ubuntu AFAIK said its a security issue09:39
jelscheuri: yeah, possibly :)09:40
duanea security issue to have gcc installed?09:40
justin_Ok well one more question09:40
scheuriduane: you do run servers exposed to the internet, right?09:40
jelscheuri: raid isn't used for security reasons?!09:40
scheurijel: beg your pardon?09:40
jelscheuri: what's a security issue?09:40
duanei dunno, it just seems weird to have a distro of which you cant compile things from source after a fresh installations09:41
duanethat just doesn't seem linuxy to me09:41
jelduane: you can compile everything on debian from source, if you like09:41
jelduane: except firmware binaries :)09:41
justin_if I format my main hdd and reinstall dapper is it possible that my raid would work09:41
scheuriduane: well, imagin someone is getting access to your server (throug apache, php, openssh, telnet, whatsoever), but has "only" user access...it can't compile malicious software and can't either install gcc to do so09:41
Mike2k6justin_, if it worked before, then i dont see why not, as long as you know how to configure it09:42
scheurijel: I would like to point out that installing gcc by default (on servers) may turn out to be a security issue09:42
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justin_I havent had to do it before09:42
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jelscheuri: ooh, right.  Yeah, it's not as if apt-get install build-essential is hard for someone who plans to use gcc09:42
scheurijel: therefore I do not see the harm of not installing it by default but let the "administrator" install it manually and make him therefore aware of that09:42
eilkerhelp pls, what is this  xorg for ??when i open computer instead of kde login screen, console comes in front of me, when i write startx , it says "xauth: creating new authority file" "user not authrized to run x server" i close console, kde login screen comes, it doesnt accept my password, from menu i say go to console, and i write startx in console, than i am able to get desktop....any idea pls ?09:43
scheurijel: of course its not hard...but to install anything you need to be root or sudo-user...but when installed, everyone can use gcc09:43
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justin_If I format the drive I have kubutu installed onto and reinstall will It destroy my software raid?09:43
jelscheuri: no, I really was agreeing with you.  I don't do sarcasm :)09:43
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Mike2k6is kdevelop for c or c++?09:44
duane[02:42]  <jel> scheuri: ooh, right.  Yeah, it's not as if apt-get install build-essential is hard for someone who plans to use gcc09:44
duaneit's not hard09:44
scheurijel: ah, okay...thanks....it sounded quite sarcastic for a second...:)09:44
duanebut it was just weird to me09:44
jelMike2k6: c, c++, python, ruby, and others09:44
duaneare there any of distros that dont come with gcc installed?09:44
Mike2k6jel, well isnt gcc a compiler just for c?09:44
Mike2k6duane, edgy doesnt.09:44
scheuriduane: I must admit that I dont know if there are others...09:44
jelduane: debian :)09:44
scheurijel: yes, debian...how could I forget...:)09:45
duanehrm when i try to do apt-get install build-essential it asks me for the kubuntu cd09:45
duanetoo bad i lost it :(09:46
jelMike2k6: nope, gcc is a compiler front end, which does c, c++, asm, and a few others.  But kdevelop just uses GCC, it doesn't depend on it for basic functionality, or  it exclusively09:46
scheuriduane: that is because the first line of your sources.list is still pointing to your CD-ROM09:46
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jelduane: your /etc/apt/sources.list is using the CD sources.  You'll need to remove the cd lines and make it just look on the net for packages09:46
Mike2k6jel, i guess im going to need to download gcc then, the website im looking at only refers to gcc as a 'c' compiler, not as a multi compiler.09:46
scheuriduane: if you comment that line out and do a "sudo aptitude update" it will automatically take it from internet09:46
Mike2k6jel, i got kedevelop installed09:46
jelMike2k6: it's wrong :)09:47
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jelMike2k6: and all you need to do is apt-get install kdevelop build-essential09:47
duanegrr seems like us.archive.ubuntu.com is down09:47
scheuriduane: really?09:47
jelMike2k6: Oh, just build-essential then09:47
duanescheuri: i cant d/l from it right now09:47
Mike2k6jel, oh? thanks, im a beginner programmer, im going to teach myself c++ lol, i know al ittle bit of js2e and alot of html so ya.09:47
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scheuriduane: try again...I can ping it now (could not ping it a second ago)09:48
duaneis it just me or does kdevelop suck?09:48
jelMike2k6: if you want to try everything that kdevel is capable of, you should look at the packages it recommends, and install those too.09:48
jelduane: it's just you.09:48
Mike2k6jel, ok cool, do you use kdevelop?09:48
scheuriduane: kdevelop sucks? compared to what?09:48
duaneMike2k6: i would just honestly use kate for now09:48
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scheurithere is also eclipse if you dare...;)09:49
duanei'm a .NET programmer that uses Visual Studio 2005 at work09:49
fatherforkany intel mac users in here?09:49
duanecompared to Visual Studio...09:49
duanekdevelop is ass09:49
jelduane: that's true; I just use kate.09:49
Mike2k6duane, already got kdevelop installed, kate is a basic text editor, kdevelop will give me the pretty colors i want09:49
duaneid rather just use kate09:49
jelduane: a lot of people think VS is ass :)09:49
duaneMike2k6: kate will too09:49
scheuriduane: well, I do not shoot anyone who is just stuck to one programm and is not able to get used to another...;)09:49
duanescheuri: i can get used to another. i find eclipse great for java09:50
Mike2k6i build comps at my job :-\09:50
duanekdevelop is just...i dunno i cant explain it09:50
scheuriMike2k6: really? I could need one...;)09:50
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scheuriokay, sorry...that is all offtopic now...my bad09:50
Mike2k6scheuri, haha, ya i build probably around 100, give or take a few a day.09:51
jelduane: then it's a personal preference, not a fact that will affect others.09:51
duanejel: so tru09:51
jelMike2k6: wow.09:51
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duanethat's why i asked "is it me"09:51
Mike2k6jel, which is more newb friendly?09:51
jelMike2k6: that's a lot :)09:51
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Mike2k6jel,  yes it is lol09:51
jelMike2k6: I guess you just do one part of it though?09:51
fdovingscheuri, mike2k6, #kubuntu-offtopic could need some more users :)09:51
scheurifdoving: yes, sorry...09:52
duaneMike2k6: if i were you i would just use kate for now to start learning c++09:52
duanebut that's just me09:52
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Mike2k6jel, nah the whole deal, including labels, coa, drives, proc, heatsink, cables, cards09:52
fdovingscheuri: don't be, just bring the discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic :)09:52
scheurianyone a problem? then brrrriiiinnnggg it ooooooon09:52
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Mike2k6jel, i just build them though, no software installation involved.09:52
momalhmm i just formated a drive into ext3 and it auto used up 3.9gb wth :S09:52
duanescheuri: adept crashes when kde starts up09:52
duanefix that for me09:52
duaneadept updater i mean09:53
Mike2k6jel,  we just plug them into giant racks with network cords in em to download the software.09:53
jelI see :)09:53
scheuriduane: what KDE are you using?09:53
jelMike2k6: PXE I guess?09:53
Mike2k6jel, yes sir09:53
duanescheuri: whichever comes with edgy i forget09:53
scheuriduane: ah, sorry..no edgy stuff for me...I give edgy a few month to get stable...*coughs*...I am still on dapper09:54
jelMike2k6: sounds very efficient :)   What company is it, can I ask?09:54
Mike2k6jel, DELL09:54
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duanescheuri: that was a good idea lol09:54
jelThought as much :)09:54
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momalxsacha: should formating into ext3 take up 3.9 gb?09:54
duanebut i wanted to finally use my usb soundcard on linux09:54
jelAnyways.  gotta go.  bbl09:54
Mike2k6jel, yep dirty dirty work goes on there though haha09:54
xsachamomal: what size is your ahrd drive09:54
Mike2k6jel, later09:54
duanewould never work with dapper09:54
duaneworks with edgy09:54
xsachamomal: by default ext will reserve 5%09:54
xsachayou can remove that09:54
scheurimomal: actually no...but...do you have dual boot? what for you want to use that partition of 3.9 gb?09:54
xsachai think his hard drive is 80gb09:55
momalxsacha: well the harddrive is 80gb (but then its acualy like 75gb due to how companys say it) but now its only got like 71gb free09:55
scheurixsacha: bingo...:)09:55
xsachayes momal, that's reserved09:55
xsachachoose -m 0 when you write as ext309:55
xsachatunef2fs -m 009:55
scheurimomal: that means you took the whole harddisk as one partition, right?09:55
xsachaif you've made it already09:56
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eilkerhelp pls, what is this dump xorg for ??when i open computer instead of kde login screen, console comes in front of me, whe i write startx , it says "xauth: creating new authority file" "user not authrized to run x server" i close console, kde login screen comes, it doesnt accept my password, from menu i say go to console, and i write startx in console, than i am able to get desktop....any idea pls ?09:56
xsachamomal: tune2fs -m 0 /dev/hd??09:56
scheurixsacha: is it a good idea to put that reserve to 0?09:56
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momalyea whoel harddisk as one parttion.. its for an extra space to copy some stuff on for a friend.... so im currently sitting at 830gb lol09:56
xsachathen you will have 100% of your hard drive09:56
amirdoes anyone here know much about wireless?09:57
momalxsacha: thanks :)09:57
scheurimomal: ah, so you dont boot from that disk...its just extraspace which will be mounted somewhere in a existing install=09:57
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xsachathe 5% is just reserved blocks for root, you do not need it09:57
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eilkernewbie here, could someone pls check my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29846/ ??09:59
Mike2k6i installed build essential but i didnt see anything go into the menu's, i need gcc to compile my work on develop so i can see it09:59
duanegcc wont be in the menus10:00
JucatoMike2k6: you won't see it in the menus since gcc is a command line app10:00
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Mike2k6Jucato, oh?10:00
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duanecause it's going to be a bitch just to learn your way around the kdevelop interface10:00
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duaneteach yourself the language first10:00
JucatoMike2k6: yes. some apps might use it in the background, like KDevelop perhaps.10:01
Jucatobut you GCC itself from the command line10:01
Mike2k6duane, im just typing in the text file and clicking save...10:01
Mike2k6Jucato, im using kdev10:01
duanethen it makes even more since to use kate10:01
Jucatoduane: some people learn using a text editor, some using an IDE. they can learn the language either way10:01
Mike2k6duane, its cause kate is a girl name...10:01
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duaneMike2k6: lol10:02
Mike2k6Jucato, so i type like compile new110:02
JucatoKate = KDE Advanced Text Editor10:02
scheuriJucato: still sounds a gorl...;)10:02
JucatoMike2k6: something like "gcc <file>"10:02
eilkeri hope someone answers me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29847/10:02
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JucatoKatie is supposed to be Konqi's girlfriend...10:02
JucatoI don't know if katie == kate10:03
duanei remember a slashdot article about this learning a language using an ide vs. text editor issue10:03
duanelemme see if i can dig it up10:03
Mike2k6hey whenever i save a file in kdevelop what is the extension on it?10:03
Mike2k6ex the file name is new110:03
Mike2k6so new1.c?10:03
duanedepends on the language10:03
Jucatoduane: maybe for some an IDE gets in the way, for some it helps. it's personal preference10:04
eilkertest , people do u see this message, i am connected or not ??10:04
duaneJucato: i see10:04
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Mike2k6eilker, sorry, your not connected.10:04
JucatoMike2k6: you'll use g++ rather than gcc then10:04
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Mike2k6Jucato, someone told me you can use gcc.....10:04
Mike2k6duane, liers...10:04
Jucatoeilker: we can look at your xorg.conf all day, but you have to tell us if there's anything wrong in the first lace10:04
JucatoMike2k6: ah yeah you can I guess10:05
scheurieilker: try to run dpkg-reconfigure debconf and choose "dialog"10:05
Mike2k6Jucato, what do i save a file as to do the c++ thing?10:05
fdovinghi jucato. :)10:05
Jucatohi fdoving!10:05
Mike2k6duane, you win ill use kate, jerk......10:05
scheurieilker: that should at least kill some error messages10:05
JucatoMike2k6: err dunno :)10:05
duaneMike2k6: read http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/21/034022010:05
eilkerscheuri: it gives errors,10:05
Jucatohaven't done C/C++ in a long time...10:05
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duanelosts of good reasons why you shouldn't use an IDE to start off with10:05
eilkermy problem is,  when i open computer instead of kde login screen, console comes in front of me, whe i write startx , it says "xauth: creating new authority file" "user not authrized to run x server" i close console, kde login screen comes, it doesnt accept my password, from menu i say go to console, and i write startx in console, than i am able to get desktop....any idea pls ?10:06
Jucatoand last time I did it was with Turbo C10:06
Mike2k6duane, im reading c++ tutorials at the moment lol10:06
eilkerand i think that, it is related with xorg.conf10:06
Jucatoer... I'm not really that interested in reading /. articles...10:06
scheurieilker: try "sudo kdm" when on command line10:06
Jucatosorry, /. comments I mean10:06
duanewhat? /. comments > *10:06
Jucatolike I said, personal preference10:07
duanedigg.com comments i could see you know wanting to waste time with hehe10:07
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scheuriJucato: is not a real geek then...;)10:07
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duanescheuri: exactly what i was thinking10:07
eilkerscheuri: i tried, it asks password, and nothing happens10:07
Jucatoif that's the criteria, then no I'm not10:07
scheurieilker: okay...what about "sudo startx"10:08
momalhmm what should be set to make another user ability to edit/delete files on my new harddrive ? (ext3)10:08
momalseems it doesnt' want to allow it >_<10:08
momalunder root i can :p10:08
eilkerscheuri: nothing happens, by the way , now i am using kubuntu10:08
scheurimomal: have a look at /etc/fstab for how to mount your harddrive....other paritions of harddrives will use "users" as parameter...that is what you want10:08
scheurieilker: hmmmm...did you upgrade from dapper to edgy?10:09
eilkerscheuri: yes i did,10:09
Mike2k6mike@Mikes-desktop:~$ gcc test10:09
Mike2k6test: file not recognized: File format not recognized10:09
Mike2k6collect2: ld returned 1 exit status10:09
eilkerscheuri: and i have apache2 working background, and mysql,and php10:09
scheurieilker: okay...the stuff you pasted is actually not very usefull, you need to post your xorg.conf10:09
scheurieilker: that means everything is fine except your Xorg10:10
eilkerscheuri: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29847/10:10
scheurieilker: no...that is NOT your config-file of xorg.conf10:11
scheurieilker: that are "only" the error messages10:11
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eilkerscheuri: so sorry  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29846/10:11
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fdovingeilker: can you try to run 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg' - looks like debconf have problems configuring your xserver-xorg package.10:13
scheurieilker: make this a "sudo aptitude install --reinstall xserver-xorg"10:13
scheurifdoving: sorry for interrupting...10:13
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fdovingscheuri: please continue, i'm pretending to do some other work here :)10:14
scheurifdoving: heh, easy...it is just that aptitude can handle dependencies a bit better...10:14
fdovingscheuri: i prefer apt-get :)10:15
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scheurieilker: furthermore...when issuing the command dpkg-reconfigure there is a tool called "debconf" started...which now is ordered to show its graphics on X-server...you can change that to make it shown on command line easier10:16
eilkerscheuri: i did it and got many errors ,see pls http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29848/10:16
eilkerfdoving: i did it and got many errors ,see pls http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29848/10:17
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B-Minushow come I have like 3 browers installed by default .. firefox, mozilla-firefox, mozilla10:17
B-Minuswhats up with that10:17
scheurioh my...we are kind of stuck here10:17
duaneuninstall all of them10:17
duaneand install opera10:17
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scheurieilker: okay...the lines with "X Error" are mainly because the tool "debconf" is called and that tool is ordered to use X as graphical interface right now...and that does not work....10:18
scheurieilker: gimme a second10:18
eilkerscheuri: ok sir10:18
fdovingeilker: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall debconf'10:19
scheurieilker: if you call me sir just one more time.....arrrr...:)10:19
eilkerscheuri: i say to my friends too:))10:20
scheurifdoving: probably wont work as then again (for install preparation) debconf is called which wont work....10:20
fdovingscheuri: debconf isn't called when re-installing debconf.10:20
scheurifdoving: oh...okay...10:20
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eilkerfdoving: i did it and....  ,see pls http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29849/10:22
scheurifdoving: the first few lines indicates that debconf or some sort of pre-dialog is started....10:23
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scheurieilker: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure --frontend=dialog debconf"10:24
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momalgarr copying hd->hd kills my box lol!10:25
scheurimomal: seems that DMA is not enabled?10:25
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momaldma ?10:26
scheuriDMA = Direct Memory Access (go get wikipedia)10:26
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eilkerscheuri: i did it,10:26
scheurieilker: any error messages?10:26
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eilkerscheuri: no error during doing it10:27
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scheurieilker: okay...try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" again10:27
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momalhmm how fast should i beable to copy between 2 ide harddrives?10:28
eilkerscheuri: same errors like before :(10:28
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momalboth 7200 rpm10:28
scheurieilker: really?....arrrrrr10:28
eilkerscheuri: yes...10:28
scheurieilker: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -f dialog debconf"10:28
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fdovingscheuri: add '-plow' maybe.10:29
scheurimomal: that depends on a lot of things....10:29
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eilkerscheuri: same things...10:29
scheurifdoving: I dont know that parameter...10:30
momalscheuri: cpu: amd x2 4200, 2gb ram... pretty much nothing using cpu10:30
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scheurieilker: it seems to ignore the frontend-thingy10:30
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fdovingscheuri: priority, -plow sets the priority threshold of questions asked.10:30
scheurimomal: well, I was merely speaking about stuff like DMA, Harddisk-parameters and stuff...hdparm is your friend...:)10:30
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fdovingeilker: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow -freadline debconf'10:31
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scheurifdoving: oooh...-plow in one word?10:31
fdovingscheuri: yes.10:31
scheurieilker: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -fdialog debconf" then...maybe that works...then we stard with plow ;)10:31
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momalwholy crap10:33
momaltalk about speed increase with dma10:33
scheurimomal: heh10:33
eilkerscheuri: same things....dont we have a repair tool for system files in kubuntu, like in xp. what happens if i reinstall kubuntu again ?10:33
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momali was getting 8-11mb/s now im getting 31 :D10:33
scheurieilker: do you have your data on a seperate partition?10:34
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eilkerscheuri: hda1 and hda5 are win xp, and hda7 is kubuntu10:34
scheurieilker: do you have any data on hda7?10:34
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intelikeywhat do you do when you get a hacker by the tail ???10:35
eilkerscheuri: of course i have data , will kubuntu format hda7 when i reinstall it ??10:35
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scheurieilker: yes....10:35
scheurieilker: like windows would do10:36
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eilkerscheuri: nope windows does not format10:36
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intelikeyeilker depends if hda7 is / or not...10:36
eilkerintelikey: it is root10:36
scheurieilker: well, if your system and personal data is on same partition (eg. c:) and then you reinstall windows...I dont think there is much left10:36
intelikeyno he's not....10:37
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scheurieilker: but that is another story...sorry...I am out of ideas..I am still on dapper though10:37
intelikeyeilker root as in /  then yes it will be formated.10:37
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eilkerscheuri: ok friend, i cant lose my datas , and all downloaded updates:) and i cant listen to music too now, it says xine cannot be started10:38
eilkerscheuri: is it also releated with xorg?10:38
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livingdaylightanyone know how Firefox knows to choose one application like Totem over another? Trying to get it to open a link with VLC coz Totem can't10:39
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livingdaylightIn System/Preference/Preffered Applications all one can change is browser and email clients. Be nice to see a whole list of preferred options10:40
intelikeytried right click open with ?10:40
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intelikeyoh that's konq10:41
fdovingeilker: before deleting anything. can you run 'sudo nano /var/cache/debconf/config.dat' - hit ctrl-w to search, and search for 'Name: debconf/frontend' - what does the Value: line say?10:41
scheurieilker: yes...everything that somehow needs graphics (such as xine) is releated to XORG as this is the X-Server....10:41
Jucatothat's firefox's problem... not kde's :P10:41
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(Th3_Cr0up13R/#kubuntu) hope its not too big02:57
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(astronaute/#kubuntu) xsacha: I have for sure : libsdl-perl, perl , libc6, libsdl-mixer1.202:57
astronauteperlapi dunno whats that02:57
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astronauteeh debian02:58
Th3_Cr0up13Reven if i did the get update it still says that i got dapper ?!02:58
astronautehave it too02:58
xsachaTh3_Cr0up13R: i don't understand.. of course you have dapper, update doesnt change that, you're thinking dist-upgrade02:59
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astronauteTh3_Cr0up13R:  you want to UPGRADE no UPDATE ?02:59
Th3_Cr0up13Rooo right02:59
Th3_Cr0up13Ron the get update i got some hit and an address does that mean i do something with them or does it just show me where it got the stuff03:00
xsachayeah they should all be hit03:00
xsachajust shows you where you d/led package info from03:01
astronauteTh3_Cr0up13R:   basicly if you dont install stuff manually, just change dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.lst and do a : apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade03:01
xsachaastronaute: find where all your fb_stuff.pm's are? (in frozen-bubble directory..)03:01
kuid87scusate un programma per emulare i cd tipo daemon03:02
xsachahave one in: ~/frozen-bubble-2.0.0/save_virgin/fb_stuff.pm ?03:02
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xsachawhere ~ is wherever you installed it to03:02
xsachashould also have fb_stuff.pm in: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8/fb_stuff.pm03:02
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Th3_Cr0up13Rastronaute: that is manually right? im fairly new in all this03:03
astronautexsacha:  no perl in /usr/local/lib :///////////03:03
Th3_Cr0up13Ri dont want to mess something up but i like experimenting and learning , loving linux03:03
astronauteTh3_Cr0up13R: manually means not BY Adept03:03
xsachaTh3_Cr0up13R: it's alright, don't need to upgrade to edgy yet03:04
astronauteyes dont do it anyway if you dont need03:04
xsachaalthough, i'm curious as to why you went with dapper instead of edgy :P i think you just installed?03:04
Th3_Cr0up13Rxsacha: y not? thought the upgrades are good03:04
astronauteTh3_Cr0up13R:   dapper have 3 years of support and irts pretty stable03:05
Th3_Cr0up13Rfair enough03:05
astronauteTh3_Cr0up13R:  edgy is quite new and may be pain in the ass03:05
xsachait's a pain in the ass to upgrade, some people have bad upgrade stories anyway03:05
Th3_Cr0up13Rwell in that case since im new i will need lots of support hehehe03:05
redmonkeyi have kubuntu 6.10 here and i have noticed that there is no kmail entry in the k-menu03:05
xsachawere you able to find "kdevelop" in Adept now Th3_Cr0up13R?03:05
Th3_Cr0up13Rxsacha: no even after the update i didnt03:06
Th3_Cr0up13Ri tried kdev, kdevelop , kdeve but nothing03:06
xsachain Adept, go to Adept->Manage Repositories03:06
xsachayou see any deb or deb-src that are grey?03:06
Th3_Cr0up13Ryes 3 pairs03:08
xsacharight click and enable those 603:08
Th3_Cr0up13Rnow i do another get update i suppose03:09
xsachathen Apply, then Fetch Updates03:09
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Th3_Cr0up13Rthe apply button didnt get activated but they got bold03:09
xsachadidn't you see the message Jucato? DOS attacks03:09
Th3_Cr0up13Rlooks like there is no need to apply or fetch something03:10
xsachadid you click fetch updates?03:10
Jucatothere is always a need to Fetch Updates, after editing sources.list.03:10
Th3_Cr0up13Rxsacha: yes i did03:11
xsachaJucato: kdevelop is in dapper, right? :S03:11
Jucatoxsacha: hm... seems like I'm connected to kornbluth.freenode.net...03:11
Th3_Cr0up13Rit did something very quickly then thats it03:11
Jucatoxsacha: I think the name is kdevelop3 in Dapper03:11
xsacha"kdev" should list them all anyway03:11
Jucatoyep yep03:11
xsachaseeing it yet Th3_Cr0up13R?03:12
Jucatohm... this is going to be hard without ubotu around....03:12
luca_bkdevelop3 is the name03:12
astronautexsacha:  you think that if i reinstall perl maybe it will be corectly created in /usr/local/libs/perl ?03:12
Th3_Cr0up13Rxsacha:  i tried kdev but i dont get anything apart from liblockdev03:12
luca_b(in Dapper) - I checked packages.ubuntu.com for safety03:12
Jucatomy connection is a bit slow today... :(03:15
xsachasame distro, we should have same perl directory :S wonder why you dont have /usr/local/libs/perl :S03:15
Th3_Cr0up13Rno nothing yet03:15
xsachayour gfs computer is 64-bit too?03:15
astronautei have pango frozen-bubble in there03:15
astronautepython too03:15
astronautebut no perl03:15
astronautei try reinstalling perl03:15
xsachaoh by the way, /usr/local/lib/perl *  no s on libs :P wondering why i had no directory found03:15
Th3_Cr0up13Rhttp://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  deb03:15
Th3_Cr0up13Reverytime i fetch update it goes back to disable by itself03:15
xsachadid you click Apply?03:16
Th3_Cr0up13Rno because its not active03:16
xsachahuh? it should be active even if you change nothing :S03:16
xsachahmm, have you used konsole much?03:17
xsachahmm, alt+f2 and type: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:17
xsachathen just remove the hashes(#) from the front of them and save03:18
astronautexsacha:  /usr/bin/perle03:18
astronautewhen i type which perl03:19
devAnyone here managed to install a Jdk on kubuntu?03:19
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xsachayes astronaute, but you need the perl libs..03:20
xsachafor me they are in /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 :S03:20
astronautexsacha:  yes sure03:21
Th3_Cr0up13Rxsacha: then i suppose i try to update again03:21
xsachait's also in /usr/lib/perl, but frozen bubble uses local03:21
Th3_Cr0up13Rlets see03:21
astronautebut how to get them03:21
xsachayes Th3_Cr0up13R03:21
xsachadon't know astronaute :( i think perl came with kubuntu.. hers is clean install to edgy?03:22
astronautexsacha:  can i just copy them from my computer ?03:22
astronautexsacha:  no upgrade from dapper03:22
xsachaaha, it might have other files :S03:22
xsachaoh, yours isnt upgrade from dapper though?03:22
astronautedont tell me i have to reinstalla all03:22
xsacha:P no03:22
xsachahmm libperl5.8  <-- i dont have this installed03:23
Th3_Cr0up13Rxsacha:  thanx a lot i found it and looks like its is downloading it03:24
Th3_Cr0up13Rthank you03:24
Th3_Cr0up13Ri hope i can do some programming now03:24
xsachastrange that manage repositories didnt work though :s03:24
Th3_Cr0up13Ri got lots to learn03:24
Th3_Cr0up13Ryeah i know, every time i open adept it is gray, unless i try to install something it will stay gray03:25
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(DaSkreech/#kubuntu) It's why I stick with Kopete though I want to drop it off a cliff three times a day05:53
(DaSkreech/#kubuntu) BluesKaj: What's she scared of?05:53
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(lambengolmor/#kubuntu) sorry, I need to copy the address book of kontact but my kubuntu broke while trying upgrade to edgy.. can anyone tell me where is it by default?05:53
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(xsacha/#kubuntu) this is why you dont use gnome apps in kde when you dont have much RAM :P http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8546/gtkinkdeix0.png (after killing one app)05:54
(sledge_at_work/#kubuntu) Lam_: somewhere ~/.kde05:54
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xsachaomg *drools* the packaging makes me want to have it right now: http://static.flickr.com/109/286546536_82ea90042b.jpg05:55
BluesKajDaSkreech, not being able to do the things she's used to doing...she's rather linux phobia'd I'm afraid, from my previous failed efforts to install Linux and get all the hardware and software top work05:55
zorglu_xsacha: yep on a 'stable' os :)05:55
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h3sp4wnDaSkreech: Why not use bitlbee (makes everything appear as just irc)05:56
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xsachawonder how much they spent on designing that packaging05:56
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Digital_PioneerHi. I've just installed Edgy, and I'm noticing one really annoying problem...05:57
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Digital_PioneerWhenever I drag windows, or scroll on a webpage, etc. it takes a moment for the display to clear off the old and "repaint" the new.05:57
bianconeri__what package should i install when getting this error :configure: error: X Screensaver extension header files not found!"??\05:57
Digital_PioneerIt gives the feel that I'm always running too much stuff and it's having trouble doing something so simple as moving a window...05:58
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manchickenHow does one unlock the dpkg database when adept crashes?05:59
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xsachakill adept05:59
xsachasudo killall adept_manager   (or look for the pid and kill it)06:00
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sledge_at_workmanchicken: Make sure adept is not running and then "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lock"06:00
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manchickenThat didn't help.  Database is still locked.06:01
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h3sp4wn!adept crash fix > manchicken06:01
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DaSkreechh3sp4wn: Sorry?06:02
manchickenh3sp4wn: That looks good.06:02
Sharketorto start azureus I have to type "./azureus" in azureus folder06:02
Tm_Tubotu: Hi06:03
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:03
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: if you use that app you don't need to bother with kopete - you can just use everything with whatever you use for irc06:03
Sharketorhow can I create a desktop icon to do that???06:03
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: well make a  short list of the things she's scared of and the things she can benefit from and take a weekend and Live CD and walk her over06:03
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DaSkreechSharketor: Is it in your KDE menu?06:04
soulrideranyone here using conky ?06:04
oyvindcan i install audacious whit apt-get?06:04
SharketorI have downloaded the .tar.bz2 package06:05
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B-Minusis there a calculator build in kubuntu ?06:05
soulriderSharketor: you could make a scrips06:05
manchickenh3sp4wn: Much thanks for that.  It seems to have worked.06:05
soulriderto cd intot he az directory06:05
Sharketorthen I have extracted it06:05
DaSkreechSharketor: Right click your K menu and edit it to put in there (under Internet) and it will be picked up in katapult :)06:05
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soulriderand then run az06:05
B-Minusi cant see a commandline calculator06:05
DaSkreechB-Minus: Press Alt+Space and do your calculations06:05
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DaSkreechB-Minus: or use speedcrunch06:05
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dinosaur-ruswill Apache 2.2 be available in repositories?06:06
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soulrideranyone know a good program to evaluate and plot functions ?06:06
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DaSkreechsoulrider: Kplot06:06
B-MinusDaSkreech: tnx06:06
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dinosaur-russouldrier: google ;)06:06
soulriderthanks DaSkreech06:06
nickstewooohoooo! I got beryl working :)06:06
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DaSkreechnickste: Whoot!06:07
soulridernickste: :) im using it right now too!06:07
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nicksteI'm soooo stoked :) Messed around for ages to get it working06:07
h3sp4wnB-Minus: perl -e 'print 4 * 4;' (or whatever)06:07
DaSkreechSharketor: Why didn't you apt-get it?06:07
nicksteeventually did  a clean install, and started from the beginning06:07
B-MinusDaSkreech: katapult disapears in the background after inactivity ?06:07
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SharketorDaSkreech: I did, but the old version on repo crashed on my pc06:07
DaSkreechB-Minus: Umm not sure Mine doesn't06:08
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DaSkreechB-Minus: Alt+ Space then Ctrl+C06:08
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DaSkreechTHat gets you the settings06:08
SharketorDaSkreech: I do: create application link, on desktop06:08
RawSewagewhats the command to totally remove a package06:08
Sharketorthen i type "azureus2 as command06:08
soulridersudo apt-get remove <name>06:08
DaSkreechSharketor: Yes I was just wondering why you didn't apt-get it06:08
Sharketorand the work path06:08
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RawSewagesoulrider: remove wont remove the folder and settings06:08
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soulridersudo dpkg -P <name?06:09
soulriderthats supposed to purge everything06:09
RawSewageok ty06:09
h3sp4wnRawSewage: aptitude purge <name> or apt-get remove --purge <name> or dpkg -P <name>06:09
SharketorDaSkreech: but when I launch it says: could not found azureus excutable06:09
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about visudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
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RawSewageI have to remove FF Flash06:10
RawSewageit crashes the browser06:10
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RawSewageI realize I can change Depth to 24, but that seems worse than Depth 16 for some reason06:11
RawSewagein xorg.conf06:11
DaSkreechSharketor: In the command try putting the path to the application06:11
SharketorDaSkreech: how?06:11
Dr_Willis  /home/username/whatever/patjh/to/azuraus06:11
DaSkreechSharketor: from the command line type which azeurus and use that06:12
manchicken_Anybody else having trouble getting emacs-snapshot-gtk to install?06:12
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SharketorDaSkreech: ok, problem solved06:14
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Sharketorthere is a file in the folder called azureus06:14
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eilker!kdm >eilker06:14
SharketorI did the link to this file06:14
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ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.06:15
dinosaur-rus!apache 2.206:16
DaSkreechdinosaur-rus: Well when gaim 2.0 comes out it shoudl be updated06:16
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[cf] nightrid3ri just installed compiz, how do i "activate" it?06:16
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ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:17
DaSkreechAh hmm06:17
dinosaur-rusDaSkreech: Gaim 2.0beta4 exists, but not in the repos and it contains some features I need06:17
[cf] nightrid3roh :)06:17
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DaSkreech[cf] nightrid3r: As I recall there is a compiz.start or a start-compiz script06:18
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deep__Test. Test.06:18
DaSkreechdinosaur-rus: try getdeb.net06:18
dinosaur-rusDaSkreech: well, what about Apache 2.2?06:19
DaSkreechdinosaur-rus: mail the maintainer06:19
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carlos_Hi, everyone! I would like to know how to acess my secure memory card. Do anyone know how to do?06:19
ubuntu__how was the command to change the root from live cd06:20
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DaSkreechubuntu__: chroot06:20
ubuntu__to use the root of my root partition06:20
ubuntu__DaSkreech: and aftetr that06:20
ubuntu__I must show where is my root?06:21
trappistubuntu__: you do like chroot /mnt/whatever and you're in your own partition06:21
DaSkreechsudo chroot path/to/the/new/root06:21
ubuntu__ok 10x06:21
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Ayabaraanyone using truecrypt?06:25
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl  -  Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:25
bipolarAyabara: I use it on some windows machines at work, but I've never used the linux version. At least not yet :)06:26
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.06:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Komba2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:26
ubuntu__how to repair grub boot manager from live CD06:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about httpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:26
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:26
DaSkreechjay: ?06:27
bipolarubuntu__: the link for lost grub after installing windows is what you want :)06:27
dinosaur-rusubuntu__: try to chroot to your partition and run grub-install06:27
Ayabarabipolar: ok. I'll ask my question anyway :-), I get "FATAL: Module truecrypt not found.06:27
Ayabaratruecrypt: Failed to load TrueCrypt kernel module" when I try to mount. I'm sort of new to linux, so I don't know how to attack this.06:27
DaSkreechdinosaur-rus: try apache206:27
ubuntu__dinosaur-rus: ok I will try06:27
felipe__Hello guys, does anyone knows if there is a deb package for Angband or MAngband?06:27
bipolarAyabara: there is a kernel module missing. A kernel module is kind of like a driver in windows06:28
bipolarAyabara: need to find out what package has the truecrypt module in it.06:28
Ayabarabipolar: aha. thanks.06:28
dinosaur-rusDaSkreech: apache2 is 2.0.55 version06:28
DaSkreechdinosaur-rus: I know. mail the maintainers to see if they have 2.2 plans. If not then just make your own deb06:29
ubuntu__dinosaur-rus: how to use this tool06:29
jayhelp! how do i change to gnome?06:29
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ubuntu__dinosaur-rus: grub-install06:29
DaSkreechjay: You had Ubuntu installed?06:29
bipolarAyabara: on a command line, try runing 'apt-cache search truecrypt' and look for a package that has 'module' in it's name. :)06:29
jayi have kubuntu but i want to try normal ubuntu06:29
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markowkaare you knwo a program like opendock for kubuntu?06:30
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jayso can u tell me the commands to change and change back?06:30
markowkai love opendock ;)#06:30
DaSkreechjay: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop06:30
markowkaanyone knowes?06:30
Ayabarabipolar: ok.06:30
jayty, so how do i change back after it?06:30
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DaSkreechwhen you have to login there is a section named sessions06:30
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dinosaur-rusubuntu__: grub-install /dev/hda06:31
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DaSkreechSelect that and choose gnome or KDE06:31
markowkanobody wnat to chat with me?!06:31
DaSkreechjay: on the login screen. You know where I'm talking about?06:31
DaSkreechmarkowka: try O-T?06:31
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DaSkreechjay: Ok Go to it :)06:32
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markowkawhre can i found this?06:34
dive-oHas anyone else upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 and had the bootup screen go "weird" - for example, I just see a bunch of lines that gradually fill between with solid color, not the nice looking splash I've seen screenshots of. Is there something I should check to make sure that got upgraded correctly?06:35
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EricJI installed 6.10 from a burned iso, and I get that bootup screen as well.06:36
dive-onot the nice pretty one shown off on the web?06:36
EricJThat's about it though - no further errors.06:36
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dive-oI had some issues with my xorg.conf getting redone but that was easily fixed06:37
EricJNope, more something resembling pulled from an 80's version of msdos.06:37
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EricJBut hey, it works.06:37
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markowka<DaSkreech> whre can i found?06:37
DaSkreechjay: Apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and logout06:37
DaSkreechmarkowka: Find?06:38
EricJdive-o: Are you on an amd64 machine as well?06:38
dive-oEricJ: yup.06:38
jaywhat is apt-get!??!?!06:38
jaywhat do i do1?!?!?06:38
EricJdive-o: Figured so06:38
DaSkreechjay: Oh Ok :)06:39
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DaSkreechjay: do you use adept?06:39
dive-oI suppose I could give it a shot on a spare box around the office today that isn't amd6406:39
EricJI wouldn't bother. I'm way too lazy. :)06:39
DaSkreechmarkowka: Where can You found waht?06:39
kayi have installed windows vista and after i installed grub back he cant find windows anyone knows how to handle this for windows vista?06:39
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ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:40
markowka<DaSkreech> markowka: try O-T?06:40
dive-oEricJ: same here, I don't feel like hooking up another monitor/kbd ;-)06:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about O-T - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:40
DaSkreech!offtopic > markowka06:40
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xsachaTh3_Cr0up13R: you're still here? checkout http://www.kde-apps.org/index.php?xcontentmode=23406:40
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markowkaachso... sorry06:41
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EricJJesus.. I had no idea setting up a simple home network was such a hassle. I almost miss WinXP.06:41
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dive-owhat are you trying to do, specifically?06:41
DaSkreechmarkowka: you can hang out here as well :)06:41
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DaSkreechjay: Hello?06:42
dive-oI've got several machines networked at home and kubuntu gave me no issues06:42
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EricJdive-o: Configuring samba, I guess. :s06:42
zorglu_q. during the last 2 days, i have my yahoo account reporting 'bad password', i havent changed the configuration at all and it was working before. is there anobody else with the same issue ?06:42
zorglu_using kopete06:42
dive-oEricJ: as a client or server?06:42
EricJdive-o: Server. I think.06:42
EricJdive-o: I'm kinda new to this concept, I'm learning as I go. :)06:43
kayDaSkreech:  thx for this tip but i need to know which entry windows vista need in grub?06:43
dive-ohmm, haven't tried that under kubuntu yet, my samba fileserver is NetBSD-based06:43
dive-oas far as using it as a client goes, that was pretty easy06:43
EricJ<-- clueless.06:43
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EricJWe've got this small network with only 2 machines - one running WinXP and one Kubuntu. I'm trying to get them access to eachothers shares.06:44
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zorglu_kay: look at http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about78184.html06:45
CVirusEricJ: with Kubuntu you could easily access your windows shares through Konqueror06:45
EricJCVirus: Don't I need to configure workgroup names and so forth?06:46
CVirusEricJ: configure your windows machine06:47
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kayDaSkreech: thx i have found other but i will look at this too06:47
xsachasmb://name/ or \\name06:47
Nickenyfikenhi, is it not possible to install DMRAID with 6.10 live cd?06:47
DaSkreechkay: Ok06:47
DaSkreechjay: Hello?06:47
EricJI'll give it a shot. :)06:47
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kayDaSkreech: thx again yours is very helpful06:47
DaSkreechkay: Thank you06:47
zorglu_maybe i should ask my weird kopete issue in a different manner :) i asked it 5 times during the last 2 days and nobody ever answered :)06:49
DaSkreechPossibly :)06:49
dinosaur-ruszorglu_: what's the problem?06:49
bipolarzorglu_: it's a yahoo server issue. I get it once in a while too.06:49
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DaSkreechbipolar: Over 2 days?06:50
markowkahave kubuntu a german channel?06:50
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zorglu_dinosaur-rus: kopete complains about my password being wrong for yahoo, but it was working without issue before06:50
zorglu_bipolar: ok06:50
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:50
EricJCVirus: Thanks for the tip. Atleast the windows machine can connect to my 'nix now. (I just need to check which users are allowed)06:50
NickenyfikenIs it possible to install edgy on a software raid0 array loading the live cd and then installing dmraid?06:50
bipolarDaSkreech: off and on, yeah. if it hasn't worked at all in the past two days, thats another issue06:51
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DaSkreechWell ICQ simply won't login for me06:51
bipolarzorglu_: has it worked at all in the past two days?06:51
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DaSkreechWhat's a good screen capture program?06:52
bipolardamn upgrade... why won't you just use the packages from my edgy cdrom?!06:52
zorglu_bipolar: nope, every time i logged on during the past 2 days, i got the popup 'bad password' and i click cancel06:52
bipolarzorglu_: oh, then thats another problem.06:52
ironfroggywhen will python 2.5 be available in apt?06:52
sebastianbf222hello: Does anyone knows how do I get transparents windows in kubuntu?06:52
EricJDaSkreech: Ksnapshot?06:52
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bipolarzorglu_: I don't know. I'm using kopete w/ yahoo right now.06:52
h3sp4wnironfroggy: It is already I think06:52
Tm_TDaSkreech: Still no login? And you have fixed version?06:52
h3sp4wn!info python edgy06:52
ubotupython: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB06:52
zorglu_bipolar: hmm ok06:52
dinosaur-ruszorglu_: I guess trying to use another client would be a good idea allowing you to see if the problem is in Kopete or Yahoo!06:52
DaSkreechTm_T: doubt it06:52
WikinGi am trying write file on MMC, but (i don't know why) it says "Couldn't change the permissions of "MMC" because it is on a read-only disk". How to make it non read-only???06:52
ironfroggyh3sp4wn: i do not see it.06:53
Tm_TDaSkreech: :p06:53
DaSkreechIt works on edgy which is why I'm upgrading today06:53
DaSkreechJust to login into icq :-P06:53
Tm_TI see.06:53
DaSkreechEricJ: That's a screenshot program06:53
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zorglu_dinosaur-rus: good point.06:53
zorglu_dinosaur-rus: but in both cases there is not much i can do :)06:53
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zorglu_dinosaur-rus: except stop using yahoo and/or kopete06:54
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ironfroggyh3sp4wn: so any idea when its to be available? or where i could maybe get a compatible package seperately?06:54
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h3sp4wnironfroggy: It is in edgy (or was when I last used it)(06:54
trappistWikinG: I think most mmc cards have a physical switch you can flip for that06:54
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ironfroggyh3sp4wn: the thing you just did say 2.4.3 was the newest in edgy06:55
xsachagrrr i keep getting: Ran out of GART memory! whenever i use something that is 3d (opengl)06:55
zorglu_q. is there a way in kopete to determine if i am currently connected or not to a given network ?06:55
ironfroggyh3sp4wn: how can i find what im running? i think dapper..06:55
stamen_how to make a ext3 partition to bi writable?06:55
DaSkreechzorglu_: Kinda :)06:55
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xsachazorglu_: the icon will be greyed out..06:55
WikinGtrappist, noup06:55
DaSkreechironfroggy: cat /etc/issue06:55
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zorglu_xsacha: hmm ok and i got a weird icon with a 'y' which is greyer out :)06:56
DaSkreechxsacha: not true al lthe time but that's a good checkstick :)06:56
WikinGtrappist, SD have, but not MMC06:56
zorglu_xsacha: i guess this is yahoo06:56
dinosaur-russtamen_: how to make FAT partition writeable? :)06:56
ironfroggyDaSkreech: it just says "Ubuntu 6.06 LT \n \l"06:56
DaSkreechDapper then06:56
zorglu_q. is there a way to ask kopete to connect to a unconnected network ?06:56
DaSkreechDapper = 6.0606:56
ironfroggyok. is apt capable of doing the upgrade to edgy?06:56
trappistWikinG: is that error message exactly as it appears? it makes sense that it can't change the permissions, because those are usually fat32, which doesn't understand unix permissions.  is it not writing to the device at all, or just not updating permissions?06:56
DaSkreechBreezy = 5.1006:56
sebastianbf222Does anyone knows how do I get transparents windows in kubuntu?06:56
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)06:56
DaSkreechironfroggy: There you go06:57
xsachazorglu_: right click that icon, and put Online->Message None (dont know if it's same on yahoo)06:57
h3sp4wnironfroggy: I just checked (I hate python anyway) 2.4 is default but you can install 2.5 in edgy06:57
h3sp4wn!info python-2.5 edgy06:57
ubotuPackage python-2.5 does not exist in edgy06:57
xsachazorglu_: the password it is asking you for, is there a chance that is your KDE Wallet Password?06:57
h3sp4wnironfroggy: I forget the package name but it is there06:57
ironfroggyh3sp4wn: you hate perfection huh?06:57
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zorglu_xsacha: oh now the icon is more more grey, i guess it is connected06:57
ironfroggyDaSkreech: thanks06:58
zorglu_xsacha: and i didnt have any 'bad password' popup06:58
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zorglu_xsacha: so it seems it was a server issue06:58
h3sp4wnironfroggy: I hate needless typing - I don't need the language to restrict how I write my code (either ruby or perl are much nicer)06:58
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zorglu_xsacha: about the kde wallet, it cant be the password it asked for because my kde wallet has no password :)06:58
xsachahmm k06:59
h3sp4wnironfroggy: and it doesn't even have ++06:59
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zorglu_xsacha: thanks for your help06:59
ironfroggyh3sp4wn: you should come to #python where it would not be offtopic for me to persuade you how those are very very good things.06:59
WikinGtrappist, i can't change permissions, now i can't write files too. aproximmetly month ago i has written fils without problems06:59
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WikinGtrappist, ...files06:59
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trappistWikinG: you could try remounting the device read-write, by hand.  you also might want to check the dmesg output when you insert the card, to see if it's complaining about anything07:02
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bipolarstupid update manager.... it uses packages off the CD until it gets to one package thats newer on the update site. then it uses the update site for ALL remaining packages. Slow as hell.07:04
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zorglu_q. is there a way to make kopete use the name of the network, instead of the icon ?07:07
zorglu_ok so is there a way to determine which icon means which network ?07:09
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Tm_TYes, they are common representatives of that protocol.07:10
zorglu_what is 'common representatives' ?07:10
Tm_TDunno how that is dealt with Oscar07:10
Tm_Tzorglu_: No idea, that's the word came to my mind.07:10
zorglu_hehe :)07:10
zorglu_i have trouble finding out basic information with kopete :)07:11
zorglu_like i am connected to yahoo :)07:11
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Tm_TDoesn't Yahoo have it's own simple logo?07:11
zorglu_and ?07:11
zorglu_well i have trouble and i try to find solution :)07:11
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Tm_TI see.07:12
zorglu_maybe the point is to determine which logo is yahoo :)07:12
zorglu_and kopete doesnt provide this info :)07:12
beemerafternoon all - anyone happen to have this mother board? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681313803607:12
Tm_Tzorglu_: Large red Y, I think07:12
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Tm_Tzorglu_: menu -> configure -> accounts07:12
zorglu_Tm_T: yep but in 2h i will have forgoteen this info :) i need something in which i could find it again :)07:12
Tm_Tzorglu_: you have list of your accounts with their icons.07:13
zorglu_Tm_T: oh ok thanks.07:13
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Tm_TI'm off for awhile, have fun kids. ->07:13
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule07:14
zorglu_this factoid seems out of date :)07:14
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h3sp4wnThat is what I thought07:14
zorglu_q. is there another IM client with a simpler GUI than kopete ?07:15
beemerzorg: I like gaim07:15
h3sp4wncentericq (console) or bitlbee (im to irc gateway)07:15
zorglu_beemer: hmm yep gaim was good, i used it on fedora for a while.07:15
zorglu_h3sp4wn: so with bitlbee i could use konversation for IM networks ?07:16
zorglu_would be nice, konversation is simple to use07:16
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buz_are those kde 3.80.2 packages safe?07:17
h3sp4wnzorglu_: Yep07:18
h3sp4wnbuz_: Read the krash release notes (I would say no - intended for people porting apps to qt4 not for general use)07:19
buz_h3sp4wn: it says i can have them alongside kde3?07:19
buz_as long as i can switch them off without destroying the rest of my edgy thats fine07:19
h3sp4wnbuz_: Maybe you can but it looks the same as kde 3.5.4 but with qt4 that is all07:20
aseigoyes, though you probably don't want to run them straight inside a kde3 session (switching users or running a session e.g in xephyr/xnest is still recommended)07:20
buz_h3sp4wn: i want to try okular's pdf annotation stuff on my tablet07:20
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buz_ok if the master himself says it should work i'll try ;)07:21
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buz_h3sp4wn: unless you know of any linux app to annotate pdfs there's a feature i want from it ;)07:22
h3sp4wnbuz_: Try finding a backported version for kde 3.5.507:23
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buz_there isnt one i'm told07:23
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h3sp4wnWhat is the app called ?07:24
zorglu_okular has a channel for it07:24
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buz_yes i know07:24
buz_i asked there a few weeks ago ;)07:24
h3sp4wnthe app is called okular ?07:24
buz_yes, okular.org07:24
buz_its like kpdf407:24
zorglu_ah yeah, #kpdf is the channel for it07:25
buz_that is my personal killer feature07:25
jelbuz_: *apparantly*, scribus can do annotations on pdfs, as long as the PDF isn't huge07:25
AyabaraIm trying to build a kernel to get truecrypt to work. I get this error: Building kernel module... cd: 132: can't cd to Kernel. can anyone help me with this?07:25
buz_jel: worth a shot i guess07:25
buz_Ayabara: do you have a specific reason why you cant use dm-crypt?07:26
Ayabarabuz_: 1. I didn't know of it. 2. I'm trying to mount an already existing tc volume :-)07:27
buz_ok, second one seems like a good one ;)07:27
buz_to be honest i never really got truecrypt working myself07:27
buz_if you still have windows running, you could create a dmcrypt volume (which can be mounted using freeotfe on win) and copy the data over07:28
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Ayabarabuz_: maybe that's what I will do then. can I dmcrypt an entire drive?07:28
buz_although you likely dont want to encrypt your root partition07:29
buz_search for encrypted storage on wiki.ubuntu.com07:29
Ayabarabuz_: ok. not any ideas on how to solve my problem? it's not a general build problem maybe?07:29
Ayabarabuz_: ok. thanks07:29
KennyTheFreakHow do i pair a bluetooth device in KDE?07:30
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KennyTheFreaki dont want to do sudo hidd --search all the time :P07:30
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buz_Ayabara: are you using edgy?07:31
buz_cause there are binaries for dapper07:31
Ayabarabuz_: yep07:31
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_JPThe check state of Tools->HTML Settings->Java is reset every time I restart Konqueror. Is there any way to make the setting to retain it's check state? (using edgy)07:31
Ayabaratried the binary for dapper, but when I tried to run it said it could not load the truecrypt kernel module07:31
chxafter xresprobe gets installed , Kubuntu install dies.07:32
carlos_Hy, everyone! I have tried to acess my digital card reader (combo) on kubuntu 6.10, but anything happens! When i connect the card anything goes on. Can anyone help me? Thanks07:32
buz_Ayabara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto this one is reasonably good i think07:32
buz_theres a few more07:32
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buz_carlos_: is it an usb reader?07:33
archangel_I go to play a dvd movie and I'm told that I may not have enough rights to play or a bad disk, but I cant play the movie07:34
jel_JP: that's strange.  Try running konqueror from a konsole, to see if you get any errors.  Sounds like it can't contact the settings service, or it can't save the config file.  As a last restort, you could remove konqueror's settings in ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc07:34
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carlos_buz_: No. I use a notebook that has a door to put the card. Do you have any idea in how to solve the problem?07:34
jel_JP: oh, remove the settings for khtml too, perhaps07:35
buz_if its a toshiba notebook i know for sure that the reader is not supported07:35
jel_JP: and any related .lock files you see :)07:35
buz_for others that might be true as well07:35
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_JPjel: ok thanks for the ideas. let me try :)07:37
jpI already have kubuntu 6.10 and it works 99.9%07:38
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jpI'll like to make a clean installation of it, but when I do the installation, although it says that the partition ext3 will be formatted, when it finishes, all the previous information is still there07:39
jphow can I remove this info so as to make a real clean install. I don't want to loose my partition 6 which is home07:39
_JPjel: hmm, should konqueror output something? all i get is those usual X errors; "Failed to open device"07:40
h3sp4wnjp: manually run sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/whatever07:40
jeljp: That sounds strange, but to fix it, manually edit the partition table.  Just select your ext3 partition, delete it, and create one exactly the same.07:40
_JPtoo many jp's around :)07:40
jeljp: yep, or you can format it yourself from a shell with mkfs.ext3, if you're OK with that07:41
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jpas soon as I do the mkfs.ext3 all the data in ext 3 will be lost? that means that kubuntu will stop working right there?07:42
jel_JP: nope.  It might output stuff about kconfig or something like that.  But if it's not doing so, that's good :)07:42
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jel_JP: try changing the settings, and make sure no errors appear in the terminal07:43
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_JPjel: nothing while actually changing the setting and either nothing while closing after changing the setting..07:44
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jel_JP: ok.   Hmmm.  I'm out of ideas then; sorry.07:48
_JPjel: in which file are khtml settings? removing konquerorrc doesn't seem to help07:48
jel_JP: well, you could also do sudo chown yourusername:yourusername ~/.kde07:48
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_JPjel: hrm, so it remembers the check state for you? my konqueror can remember everything else but not the check states of those tools07:48
Ayabarabuz_: hmm. I made a symlink called 'kernel' and now it seems to get a step further for some reason..07:49
Ayabarajust fyi :-)07:49
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jel_JP: I was thinking of kio_httprc07:49
jel_JP: which exact checkbox is it?  did you say the java button?  The one about enabling java globally?07:50
_JPTools->HTML Settings->Java07:50
_JPit didn't work for me in dapper either07:51
jel_JP: ahh, I don't have that extension installed.  I thought you were talking about the ones in the preferences.   Are you aware that they're per-site?07:52
_JPand this is a fresh and clean installation of edgy. i'm sure i haven't messed up anything07:52
jel_JP: at least, I think they are :)07:52
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_JPjel: oh... :) it's just that every single time i visit some map service it nags about java being not turned on..07:53
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EricJFirewalls.. great. <3 windows machines.07:54
_JPit stays checked until i restart konq07:54
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jelgah!  I just accidentally removed the menu bar from konqueror on my ibook, which doesn't have a right mouse button setup yet, so I can't turn it back on :/07:55
jel_JP: *sigh*  I think your best bet is to enable java for that site in the preferences07:55
jelnnn0: thanks! :)07:56
nnn0np :)07:56
nnn0been there :D07:56
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FJ_SanchezI have problems after upgrade to Edgy07:56
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FJ_SanchezAll things of KDE are slow07:56
FJ_SanchezKPDF, konsole07:57
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FJ_SanchezAny ideas?07:57
jelFJ_Sanchez: more memory?07:57
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jelFJ_Sanchez: check your dns?07:57
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jelFJ_Sanchez: especially that there's no delay in resolving your own machine's hostname, and that of localhost07:58
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FJ_Sancheztop says 6000k free07:58
FJ_Sanchezjel the problem is with apps07:58
thortyany tip for a real good irc-chat applikation?07:58
jelFJ_Sanchez: it always says something like that :)   Look at how much swap you're using :)07:58
FJ_SanchezI can use Firefox without problem07:58
jelFJ_Sanchez: nevertheless, check it out.07:59
FJ_SanchezI'm using 17776k of swap07:59
jelFJ_Sanchez: how much memory do you have?07:59
jelthorty: konversation is about the best, I think07:59
jelFJ_Sanchez: ahh, more than enough.   Unless you're running google earth at the same time :)08:00
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FJ_SanchezHeheh, not the case08:00
FJ_SanchezI don't know why is this..08:00
jelthe 16MB of swap is small relative to your memory, too.08:00
FJ_SanchezI think it's something related to the kio things08:00
jelFJ_Sanchez:  how slow is slow?08:00
FJ_Sanchezie, I click to open terminal08:00
tempuserthorty: xchat is also quite good. And it's available for Windows and Linux08:01
FJ_SanchezIt show me the window but I cannot write until 1 minute08:01
FJ_SanchezMore or less08:01
FJ_SanchezIt's a lot of time08:01
jelFJ_Sanchez: hhhm.  That is weird.08:01
jelFJ_Sanchez: where to other apps pause, and for how long?08:02
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FJ_SanchezFor example konversation, kpdf, konsole08:02
FJ_SanchezAl KDE stuff08:02
jel(back, listening)08:02
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jelI had to run out there for a sec, so I was just letting you know that I was back, and reading what you were saying.08:04
jelin other words, continue :)08:04
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FJ_SanchezI tried to purge and reinstall konkeror and kdebase-kio-plugins08:05
BuFFhow to install flash player for opera 9.0 ?08:05
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jelFJ_Sanchez: what stage do other applications pause at?  The same point, just after opening the window, but before drawing the buttons etc.?08:05
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FJ_Sanchezsame point08:06
FJ_SanchezWhen you open it08:06
jelFJ_Sanchez: don't have lots of fonts installed, by any chance?08:06
FJ_SanchezMmmm, maybe08:06
FJ_SanchezI'm not sure08:06
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jelFJ_Sanchez: unless you added lots that aren't in ubuntu, it'll be ok08:06
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FJ_SanchezI'll look this08:07
jelFJ_Sanchez: well, if I were you, my next step would be to run konsole through strace, and see what the last line of output is before it pauses.  It may or may not be useful, but there's a reasonable chance :)08:08
bipolarCan someone please toell me how to upgrade to edgy via the CD? Apt simply refuses to use the cdrom source to upgrade, and upgrade manager, even though I tell it to NOT use the network connection, uses it anyway.08:08
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bipolarif I disconnect the network, update manager fails becouse it can't download package lists.08:08
FJ_SanchezBut it never crashed08:08
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FJ_SanchezIt's only really slow08:08
jelFJ_Sanchez: that's OK.  strace tells you what an app is doing, not what it did before crashing08:09
bipolarI've tried update-manager -c, and the cdromupgrade script on the cdrom. they both do the same thing.08:09
FJ_SanchezNow I know the problem08:09
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jelFJ_Sanchez: specifically, it tells you the system calls being made08:09
jelFJ_Sanchez: Ohh?08:09
FJ_SanchezI think it's because it's waiting to scim but I don't ahve it installed after upgrade08:09
Lars_GI am going to burn the kubuntu 6.10 dvd for i386 but I'd like to check the md5 sum first, and I can't find it anywhere.08:09
Lars_Gis it posted somewhere?08:10
FJ_SanchezI'll install it08:10
jelFJ_Sanchez: ahh.  possibly :)08:10
Lars_Guh oh, scim08:10
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FJ_SanchezI'm going to install it, back in a moment08:11
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bipolarit seems silly to me that update-manager is downloading from archive.ubuntu.org, at ~50K, when all the packages are right here on my cdrom.08:11
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CVirusI apologize08:12
CVirussorry about that08:12
flaviohi all, does anybody know where to find the kubuntu system settings source code?08:12
nagyvbipolar: are you sure that you have the recent versions?08:12
bipolarnagyv: yes, I have the kubuntu edgy cd here, and the md5sums match08:13
bipolarI can't even get apt to use it.08:13
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nagyvbipolar: is the cd-rom in your sources.list file?08:13
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bipolarnagyv: deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025)] / edgy main restricted08:14
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)08:14
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mariuszubuntu pl zna ktos adres08:14
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mariuszbo nie wiem jak dodac do listy08:14
Lars_Gbipolar: where did you find the md5sum to match it?08:14
nagyvmariusz:  #ubuntu-pl ?08:15
bipolarLars_G: from the md5sum file on the host08:15
Lars_Gbipolar: I don't see any in the dvd section08:15
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bipolarLars_G: I'm not using the DVD08:15
Lars_Gbipolar: I am and I can't find the md5sum to check before I burn the dvd08:15
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mykyhi all speak someone czech or slovak?08:16
FJ_Sanchezjel: All solved!08:16
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bipolarCVirus: that page doesn't help me with my problem. It's expecting a http upgrade08:16
FJ_SanchezThank you very much my friend!08:16
flaviook, second try: does anybody know where the kubuntu "system settings" source code is?08:16
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CVirusbipolar: I werent addressing you !08:17
FJ_SanchezOne more thing, why I cannot get coloured prompt in the tty08:17
FJ_SanchezAll is grey08:17
bipolarCVirus: ahh, ok. next time use "!tell" with ubotu :)08:17
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jelFJ_Sanchez: all solved?  sweet :)08:19
jelFJ_Sanchez: that's just a setting in your shell startup scripts.  You'll have to do it manually on ubuntu, I think.08:20
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FJ_SanchezI have it changed in my .bashrc08:20
FJ_SanchezI get a coloured prompt in konsole and Eterm08:21
FJ_SanchezBut not in tty08:21
spahijahi guys..is there a kubuntu version with ncurses installation ?08:21
chxI am installing through a very slow line (took 11 minutes to download 33.7Mbytes) , is there a way to check how much apt still needs to download?08:21
FJ_SanchezAnd also I'd like to change the resolution of the tty08:21
chxoh, and i am running netinst, no cd rom on this machine08:21
jelFJ_Sanchez: change the res by editing your grub kernel options (video=somemode)08:22
jelFJ_Sanchez: sounds like your bashrc is only doing it conditionally, based on whether DISPLAY is present, or something?08:23
FJ_SanchezMmm, but it's the same bashrc I had before upgrading08:23
FJ_SanchezAnd before that it worked08:24
jelFJ_Sanchez: oohh.  That's also strange.  Sorry, don't know.08:24
=== spahija is wondering if text install is still available
FJ_SanchezThanks anyway08:24
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jelspahija: you can install as server, and then just use aptitude08:24
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spahijajel, where is server cd ? what is it called ?08:25
jelspahija: I'm not 100% suer it's texture.08:25
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nastashello everybody08:25
jelspahija: it's a boot option on the normal install CD, last I checked08:25
spahijajel, hm,,,08:25
jelnastas: hi08:25
spahijajel,  you mean safe ?08:25
jelspahija: no, but it was there with options like safe, last time I looked.  Might have been taken out in edgy for some reason?08:26
FJ_SanchezHow can I get Kmix running on login?08:26
spahijajel, well I see not server or text option08:26
jelspahija: might be a separate server cd now?08:27
spahijajel, options look like this --> http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/original/Kubuntu%206.10/1.gif08:27
nastaswhat exactly are you talking about?08:28
jelcan't see it; I'm temporaily on a server without much gui stuff installed08:28
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spahijanastas, talking about if its possible to use text install on latest kubuntu08:28
jelhe's looking for a way to install (k)ubuntu without graphics -- a textual install08:28
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RawSewagewhat do I install to encode mp3 to ogg?  lame or liblame008:29
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jelanyway, it's been a long day; I'm gonna go eat dinner and relax for a while.  bye all :)08:29
nastashow different is (k)ubuntu from ubuntu?08:29
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FJ_Sanchezbye jel08:29
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spahijanastas, well KDE = kubuntu , GNOME = ubuntu :D08:30
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nastassorry but i'm new in linux08:30
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TheGateKeepernastas: no difference just uses different desktop08:30
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nagyvnastas: if you wan't we can wrote more also about this topic, but probably the users of ubuntu would not agree with us :)08:31
dhqi cannot play any video files i can just hear the audio08:31
TheGateKeepernastas: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes08:31
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duane_nastas: it's more of a difference between KDE and Gnome08:31
spahijadhq, missing codecs for them08:31
duane_nastas: in my honest opinion KDE is more windows like and is way more customizable08:32
duane_nastas: alot of people think that KDE's customizable nature makes it unintuitive however08:32
TheGateKeeperdhq: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability08:32
duane_nastas: i also find and a few memory tests prove that KDE is more 'snappier' than gnome08:33
nastasit is?08:33
nastasis it?08:33
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dhqspahija: TheGateKeeper i have all the codecs installed how do i check it again08:33
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duane_nastas: imo yes08:34
duane_More ubuntu users use gnome however so there's more documentation over it08:34
duane_it's just a personal preference08:34
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duane_if i were you i would try both and see which you like08:34
nastasi think i'm gonna try KDE08:34
TheGateKeeperdhq: you have done all it says in that guide?08:34
duane_good choice :D08:35
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Search4Lanceranyone know of a good webcam program that actually works?08:35
Search4Lancergqcam keeps freezing up on me08:35
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dhqTheGateKeeper: i could play all my movie file the last week and the i just added an upgrade with atomatix and now i can play any files08:36
nagyvSearch4Lancer: for what use?08:36
nastasi'm from Greece and i live in an Island.08:36
Search4Lancerfor your basic webcam use.... :-P for on a site08:36
nastasi'm the onlyone here with linux08:36
nagyvSearch4Lancer: try vlc08:37
TheGateKeeperdhq: try #automatrix sorry no sympathy08:37
nagyvnastas: never mind, we are here with you! :)08:37
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ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.08:37
duane_you can install everything automatix does much easier and safer with apt-get08:37
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nastasi agree with duane_08:38
nastasapt-get is better08:38
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TheGateKeeperif you really need to run automatrix...08:39
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TheGateKeeperthen install either kanotix, pclinuxos or sabayon08:39
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nastaswhat exactly you wanna do GateKeeper?08:40
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pygiwho can learn me what KDE has by default for wireless networks? :)08:40
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beemerhttp://http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=NF61V%20Micro%20AM2 - Anyone have this Biostar mb working in edgy?08:40
cryptonichey can someone help me with a problem iv been having in gparted08:40
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steffhi. running kubuntu edgy. installed firefox 2.0 (apt-get install firefox). when i click the firefox icon it wont start up. im getting the "loading ball" but nothing happens. any suggestions?08:41
TheGateKeepernastas: well I'm installing gentoo :-)08:41
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nagyvpygi: wireless assistant08:41
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duane_steff: install opera :D08:41
pyginagyv: and I'd find that where? :)08:41
steffduane_: :D but that wont get my firefox to run :)08:41
sledge_at_worksteff: open a konsole, type   firefox  , and hit enter.08:42
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duane_pygi: kmenu -> internet -> wlassistant08:42
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duane_steff: that's the point!08:42
steffsledge_at_work: tried that, nothing happens08:42
nagyvif it's already installed then under K-menu->internet, if it's not then adept, but if you need wpa, then you need wpa_supplicant (if I remember well)08:42
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nagyvpygi: ^^08:42
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pyginagyv: cannot install anything, live cd --> trying beryl08:42
steffduane_: :) i like internet, not music08:42
ian__any big issues with edgy?08:42
cryptonichey can someone help me with a problem iv been having in gparted?08:43
sledge_at_worksteff: try  firefox --g-fatal-warnings08:43
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steffsledge_at_work: still nothing happens :(08:44
nastaswhat problem do you have08:44
Digital_PioneerHi. I have a slightly unusual request: I need to batch rename a folder of music files from "Title - Artist.mp3" to "Artist - Title.mp3" How do I do that?...08:44
cryptonicI have a new 125gig partion which  i cant find at all  in nautilus, iv partitioned it to fat32 and ext 3 withought change to the problem08:44
Digital_PioneerThis is probably not the right place, but I have no idea where to go with it... :] 08:44
cryptonicit says in gparted that it isnt mounted but i cant find an option anywhere to mount it08:44
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beemerDigitial - give me a few min - i think I can do a small script for that08:45
TheGateKeeperDigital_Pioneer: with a bash script08:45
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Digital_Pioneerbeemer: Really? Sweet!08:45
nastasyou can manually mount from a console as root08:45
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pacouanyone using guarddog firewall? i need help forwarding a custom port.08:45
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Digital_PioneerTheGateKeeper: I'm afraid I'm not even sure what bash is (beyond a scripting language) but if you could suggest one... :D08:46
nastasr u running ubuntu cryptonic?08:46
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TheGateKeeperDigital_Pioneer: if beemer gives you a bash script you might find this helpfull http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html#toc608:47
jan__how long does it approximately last till a patch for kopete is applied to the official version of kubuntu? (Bug 136566, cant connect to icq)08:47
cryptonicyou can manually mount from a console as root? how?08:47
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TheGateKeeperDigital_Pioneer: if you know python, or perl you could probable use either of them too08:48
nastasdid you run the command fdisk -l ?08:48
Search4Lancernagyv: so far, vlc does absolutely, positively nothing. Can't even play videos in it nonetheless capture from a cam08:48
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nastascryptonic? did you run the command fdisk -l ?08:48
nastasrun this command in a console08:49
cryptonicran it08:49
nastasyou will see something like: /dev/hda mpla mpla mpla08:50
nastasis it right?08:50
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cryptonicwell it just gives disk info08:51
nastascan you see the partion you want to mount?08:52
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl08:52
nagyvSearch4Lancer: I used this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29918/ script to capture videos to a file. I hope it will help to you.08:52
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shivcan anybody help. Whats wrong with this command? sudo chmod 700 ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/*.*08:53
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Digital_PioneerTheGateKeeper: I could probably do it in C++, but I don't know enough to manage filenames and fool around with strings that well... ;)08:54
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nastascryptonic? can you see the partion you want to mount?08:54
beemerDigital - still working on it - getting close :)08:55
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Digital_PioneerTheGateKeeper: Seems like I could do it in most any scripting/programming language I wanted, given I knew enough of it. :)08:55
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Digital_Pioneerbeemer: You're writing in on the spot??08:55
beemerit's good practice :)08:55
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: Wow... Thanks, man.08:55
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TheGateKeeperDigital_Pioneer: true, there are loads of String Manipulation functions like strcmp etc etc in c/c++08:56
nagyvshiv: try instead option -R and ./ without asterisks08:56
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Digital_PioneerTheGateKeeper: Yeah, but I'm only learning C++... We haven't even covered arrays yet. LOL08:56
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kolihi all08:57
kolihow do i change my default boot system?08:57
nastascryptonic: still there?08:57
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cryptonicwell the partition i want to mount is on a sata drive08:57
nagyvkoli: to what?08:58
teledyndoes anyone know why transers to a usbdrive would be extremely slow?08:58
TheGateKeeperDigital_Pioneer: there you go: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/  no more excuses lol08:58
cryptonicand the first partition on that drive is already mounted, 95gig partition = system partition08:58
cryptonicbut the second partition does not mount08:58
shivnagyv: where do I put the ./08:58
Digital_PioneerTheGateKeeper: :)08:59
kolii use dual boot of kubuntu with xp sp208:59
kolihow do i make dhe default system to be windows?08:59
beemerDigital - try this script out on the command line and see if it gives you the right file names:08:59
Digital_PioneerTheGateKeeper: C++ is a kinda big language, isn't it? ;)08:59
beemerexport IFS=$'\n';for h in `ls -l Title* | cut -c 49-`; do title=`echo $h | cut -f 1 -d \ `; artist=`echo $h | cut -f 3 -d \ | cut -f 1 -d .`; echo $artist - $title.mp3;done08:59
nastasthe first partition's format is???   ext2?08:59
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nagyvshiv: actually with chmod -R 700 /home/yourdir/somedir/ you will chmod all the files under somedir and its children directories09:00
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Digital_Pioneerbeemer: What are the params?09:00
cryptonicits ext309:00
cryptonicso is the second09:00
nagyvkoli: in /boot/grub/menu.lst you will find the answer09:00
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: I assume I have to call it with some sort of instruction...09:00
DaSkreechDigital_Pioneer: can't amarok do that?09:00
nastasand the partition you want to mount is fat 32?09:01
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beemerthere's no params - just run it from the directory where the mp3's are - it won't do anything yet - just produce a list of filenames09:01
kolihow do i modify it?09:01
beemerjust paste the whole line to the command prompt and hit enter09:01
DaSkreechTheGateKeeper: No big friend of Freespire?09:01
javaxawwwwwwww no09:01
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Digital_PioneerDaSkreech: Can it? AmaroK is the reason I need the script in the first place.09:01
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TheGateKeeperDigital_Pioneer: well yes, but it doesn't take that long to get the basics & start being productive09:01
javaxi think apt has stalled while i was upgrading to edgy09:01
shivnagyv: I want to make the scripts executable thats all09:01
cryptonicat first it was fat32 but couldnt get it mounting so i formated it to ext309:01
javaxoooooh it hasnt thank god09:01
nagyvkoli: open up a konsole, and write the command sudo kate09:02
TheGateKeeperDaSkreech: NOT Freespire or Linspire09:02
shivnagyv: this did not do it sudo chmod -R 700 ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts ./09:02
nastasyou can mount anything09:02
cryptonicthere is a swap partition in between09:02
DaSkreechDigital_Pioneer: Depending on what version you have It should be able to do that09:02
Digital_PioneerTheGateKeeper: cout << "I know the very VERY basic basics already. ;)" << endl;09:02
nastasi  am mounting an external ntfs hdd09:02
DaSkreechTheGateKeeper: Why?09:02
Digital_PioneerDaSkreech: I have 1.4.409:02
TheGateKeeperDigital_Pioneer: :-)09:02
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DaSkreechThat should do it :)09:02
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nagyvshiv: sudo chmod -R 700 ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/09:03
javaxLinspire is a commercial whore09:03
cryptonicso am i but i cant mount two partitions on the same drive for some odd reason09:03
javaxclawing back the money again after being sued09:03
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shivnagyv: no luck :(09:03
Digital_PioneerDaSkreech: The problem is, Amarok sees it all backwards. It looks at those names, and gets the titles and artists mixed up.09:03
nastasdid you try to add a line in fstab?09:04
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DaSkreechI think you can set that up somewhere :(09:04
nastascryptonic: did you try to add a line in fstab?09:04
cryptonichow do i add a line09:04
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: ls: Title*: No such file or directory09:04
nagyvshiv: is it a network-mounted drive?09:04
steffduane_: actually i installed opera.. pretty good isn't it ?09:04
cryptonicnastas: how do i add a line in fstab09:04
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nastasrun: sudo gedit /etc/fstab09:05
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beemeroh sorry - change that to *.mp309:05
shivnagyv: no I am just using some iso files that I want to be mounted09:05
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beemerfrom the part that says Title*09:05
nastascryptonic: in  a console :)09:05
javaxany ideas on how to get Logitech MX610 wireless usb mouse working in Kubuntu??? /q09:05
datscan anybody help my in e-17 compilation ?09:05
nagyvshiv: aha, so you would like execute the files on your iso, that's it?09:05
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shivnagyv: ya09:06
cryptonicnastas: what should i add?09:06
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nagyvshiv: you can not change the mod, because the iso is unwriteable, but you can execute the files on it somehow09:06
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Digital_Pioneerbeemer: BTW, can you put my full nick (you should be able to just hit tab after a few letters) so I get notified on your messages?09:07
beemerDigital_Pioneer: sure :)09:07
shivnagyv:  I am trying to use these scripts http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149963&highlight=bin+cue09:07
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nastasyou will see the line with the first partition and you will add almost the same but with the partition you want to mount09:07
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Digital_Pioneerbeemer: Thanks. :) That helps.09:07
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: Did you get the output I gave you?09:07
shivnagyv: see reply #309:07
beemerDigital_Pioneer: yeah - in the first part of the script, change Title* to *.mp309:08
beemerDigital_Pioneer: and it should run09:08
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DaSkreechDigital_Pioneer: ask in #amarok if there is an option to switch that09:08
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DaSkreechI'm sure there is09:08
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Digital_PioneerDaSkreech: I've been there before, they said to fix streamripper (that's what's making these files) LOL09:08
Dieguetehi kubunters09:09
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nastascryptonic: is there a line like: /dev/hda1  /media/hda1  linux.....???09:09
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: OK, it's not failing anymore....09:09
beemerDigital_Pioneer: but.... :)09:09
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Digital_Pioneerbeemer: Running it in a dir with a file "x - y.mp3" it simply returns "x - 6-11-02.mp3"09:10
cryptonic# /dev/sda109:10
cryptonicUUID=184e2a73-5e0c-4414-b2f5-e97e5272326a /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       109:10
cryptonicthen i added09:10
DaSkreechDigital_Pioneer: Not a bad idea :)09:10
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scionhello all09:10
Digital_PioneerDaSkreech: Any ideas on doing that? :)09:10
cryptonic# /dev/sda309:10
cryptonicUUID=184e2a73-5e0c-4414-b2f5-e97e5272326a /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       109:11
DaSkreechC++ :-D09:11
cryptonicstill not showing up in nautilus though09:11
nastascryptonic: is sda1 mounting?09:11
nagyvshiv: are you using nautilus or konqueror as your file manager?09:11
beemerDigital_Pioneer: can you paste like 2 lines from this command (run in your mp3 directory): ls -l *.mp309:11
Digital_PioneerDaSkreech: *Sigh* I _could_ try to hack it... But I still have many files that need a batch rename.09:12
shivnagyv: nautilus09:12
cryptonicwhat i see in nautilus is filesystem09:12
cryptonicnot sda's09:12
nastassda is not mounting?09:12
cryptonici see my usb disks too09:12
nastasbut no sda's09:12
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: Not sure what you mean?09:13
nastastry to delete the "#" from the fstab09:13
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beemerDigital_Pioneer: at a command prompt, make sure you are in your mp3 path.  then type ls -l *.mp309:13
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: -rw-r--r-- 1 digitalpioneer digitalpioneer 2 2006-11-02 14:04 x - y.mp309:13
nagyvshiv: who is the owner of your actual ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts files?09:14
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: It's taking the date instead of the name.09:14
beemerDigital_Pioneer: ok09:14
shivnagyv: how do I know that? it should be shiv09:14
Foobanyone here have two monitors set up?09:14
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FoobI have it 'almost' working.. but my smaller screen is acting funkiy09:14
Xzyx987Xhey, how do you set up kde to start automatically at boot? I messed something up in my kubuntu install while installing the beta nvidia drivers and I'm booting to the command line09:14
nastascryptonic: ?09:14
cryptonicthat does nothing09:14
shivnagyv: I forgot how I did this last time. I think I added a + or sh somewhere09:15
nastasdid you reboot the system?09:15
Foobthe image is 'offset' or something... when I go to click it registers 200px to the right of where the cursor is09:15
nagyvshiv: (I think you will be right, but anyway), open up konqueror (or nautilus if you prefer :) ), and in the location bar type /home/shiv/.gnome209:15
beemerDigital_Pioneer: ok - try this - change 49 to 79 in the script (where it says cut -c 49-)09:15
nagyvshiv: and then navigate to the nautilus-scripts directory09:15
shivI did that09:16
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Digital_PioneerThat gives no output.09:16
dhqfdoving: when i run any moc=vie i can hear the audio but i get a blank screen why is that i guess i have all the codec installed09:16
nastascryptonic: ?09:16
cryptonicdidnt reboot09:16
nagyvshiv: right, and select something like properties, and search the tabs for an owner, probably you will be able to change the permissions here file-by-file too09:16
FoobXzyx987X:  does your gui start up when you execute: kdm09:16
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: No output, and my file is still x - y instead of y - x.09:16
cryptonicshould i ?09:16
fdovingdhq: what player?09:17
cryptonicsee ya in a sec09:17
Xzyx987Xdidn't try it, x would have to be stated first though, right?09:17
dhqfdoving: all the players i hav09:17
beemerDigital_Pioneer: shoot - ooops - change it to 63 actually - man did I miscount09:17
fdovingdhq: do you have mplayer installed?09:17
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: LOL09:17
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: Wonderful. It said y - x.mp3... But the problem remains: My file is still x - y.mp3.09:18
Xzyx987Xthere was an erroneous line in x's log...09:18
Xzyx987X(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom09:18
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Xzyx987Xthat appeared sveral times09:19
beemerDigital_Pioneer: right :) ok - where it says (near the end) echo $artist - $title.mp3; change that to cp $h $artist\ \-\ $title.mp309:19
beemerok going afk a few min09:19
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: OK, one sec.09:19
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nastascryptonic: ?09:21
cryptonicnastas: didnt work09:21
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: Beautiful.09:21
FoobXzyx987X: I don't think so... I changed my runlevel 2 so that it didn't load the gui and then I could test my setup by doing a: /etc/init.d/kdm start|stop09:21
morghanphoenixLjL should be happy, I'm giving firefox another chance.09:21
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FoobXzyx987X: I had that too... they put in the device stanza for some wacky input peripherals09:22
LjLme? happy? i use konqueror09:22
morghanphoenixAs do I, usually, but not everything renders right in konq for me.09:22
Xzyx987Xif I wanted to do a non-gui bootup I'd just use recovery mode09:23
Xzyx987XI like my default login to have a gui :P09:23
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hazardis there any way to make xwindows change the screen resolution on a temporary basis without root access?09:23
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: Sorry, but now it says "cp: invalid option --"09:23
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morghanphoenixBut if I remember corretly it was you who was anti-closed source09:23
hazard(so I can make starcraft run full screen?)09:23
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LjLhazard: yes, ctrl/alt/+ and ctrl/alt/-, though for some reason (well, there's a bug filed) that doesn't work on my edgy09:23
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FoobXzyx987X: my default runlevel is still 5... or gui'ed but if I want to debug I just change my inittab to boot to runlevel 209:23
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FoobI also made sure that rc2 had just the bare minimum of services and whatnot09:24
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Foobbut I digress...09:24
Xzyx987Xwait, where is the inittab file supposed to be located again?09:24
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hazardLjL that dosen't work09:25
Foobit's in etc/inittab09:25
zorgluuu in /etc/inittab09:25
hazardCould it be because I only have one resolution configured?09:25
fdovingedgy doesn't have a inittab.09:25
zorgluuuyes there :)09:25
Foobit doesn't?09:25
fdovingand the default runlevel is not 5, it's 2.09:25
Foobnot if you change it :)09:25
fdovingit's configured in /etc/event.d/09:25
zorgluuuoh btw is the edgy boot significantly faster than dapper one ?09:25
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maelcumhi! short question: are there any binaries available of kopete with the icq protocol support fixed?09:25
fdovingif you upgraded to edgy from dapper, the /etc/inittab settings will be preserved.09:25
FoobI think it's a good thing to have different running states09:25
LjLhazard: perhaps it could be because you're on edgy, as i said09:25
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hazardI'm not.09:26
hazardI'm using Dapper09:26
LjLhazard: then yes, it's because you only have one resolution configured.09:26
fdovingmaelcum: yes, http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/09:26
hazardHow do I fix that?09:26
maelcumfdoving: thx, w00t!09:26
hazard(I know I can do resolutions less than 1024x768?09:26
Xzyx987Xlol, I think I found the problem. my inittab file is gone09:27
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Xzyx987Xdunno how that happened09:27
fdovingXzyx987X: are you on edgy?09:27
hazardMutant cheese bunnies.09:27
hazardOnly logical conclusion.09:27
fdovingXzyx987X: then you shouldn't have a inittab file unless you upgraded from dapper09:27
fdovingXzyx987X: everything is configured in /etc/event.d/ now.09:27
Xzyx987Xok, then what do I have?09:27
LjLhazard: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and select more resolutions09:27
zorgluuuq. is the edgy boot significantly faster than dapper one ?09:28
LjLzorgluuu: yes09:28
Xzyx987Xok, I'll look there for errouneos settings...09:28
fdovingXzyx987X: /etc/event.d/rc-default configures the default runlevel.09:28
fdovingXzyx987X: if that's what you're looking for..09:28
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: BTW, should be cut -c 64. ;)09:28
nagyvwill the edgy boot be backported to dapper?09:28
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Foob... yeah - that's probably not what he's looking for.. I was just commenting on how I could 'start' the gui'ing by starting up kdm from the command line.09:29
fdovingnagyv: my guess would be, no.09:29
beemerDigital_Pioneer: i'll check in a bit but I have to go to a meeting for 30-45 min09:29
Foobif he finds out why that isn't working then it'll probably start up automagically09:29
JanKwhat resolution/frequency is the kubuntu loading screen? (my tft says "out of oporating range") before the kdm-login appears and shortly after grub has finished.09:29
beemerDigital_Pioneer: sorry I couldn't get it going yet09:29
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: OK, NP.09:29
nagyvI mean, I have heard a couple of bad things about edgy, so affraid of upgrading, but everyone says that the boot is much better.09:29
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: I'm almost always on #uira if I'm not here.09:29
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: And I'm not here much. ;)09:30
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Digital_Pioneerbeemer: I'll keep fooling with it, see if I can fix it. Thanks man.09:30
zorgluuunagyv: you can wait a few month until it stabilize a bit09:30
Xzyx987Xok... the file is there but the runlevel is 5...09:30
Xzyx987Xthat should be normal, right?09:30
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FoobXzyx987X:  yeah that's fine.09:30
fdovingJanK: you can configure that yourself. don't know about the defaults. take a look at /etc/usplash.conf09:30
flaviodoes anybody know where to find the kubuntu system settings app source code? help me please!09:30
Xzyx987Xso that's not the problem then...09:31
hazardoh, krud, now I'll have to remember how to fix dmps.09:31
FoobXzyx987X: what happens when you try and start kdm:  /etc/init.d/kdm start09:31
fdovingflavio: in konsole, run 'apt-get source kde-systemsettings'09:31
Xzyx987XI didn't try... ok, back in 5 minutes I guess :P09:31
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flaviofdoving: thank you! i'll try it09:32
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nagyvzorgluuu: but in a few months already Feisty Fawn will be the recent one :)09:33
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zorgluuunagyv: yep but new bug will comes :)09:33
nagyvflavio: try in irc.kde.org #kde09:34
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: I got it!09:34
JanKhow to setup the resolution and frequeny of the Kubuntu loading screen, which appears after grub and before the login? (it seems to be higher than 1200x1024 or 60hz)09:35
zorgluuuJanK: this is called the usplash09:35
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: I took out the escape chars (\) and put the cp directives in quotes. Then, I changed cp to mv (only need one, with the right name!) and it works!!! :D09:35
ubotuusplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto09:35
flavionagyv: i'm trying what fdoving suggested09:35
zorgluuuJanK: i dunno if the page has the info you are looking for09:35
flavionagyv: i also think this is kubuntu specific09:36
JanKim going to look there thank you :)09:36
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timinphx1Hi all, just jumped in,sorry if redundant. Is anyone having problems after todays updates? My X-server isn't booting when I get it done manually, I have no Kicker09:36
nagyvflavio: I agree, but since seemingly we can (could) not help you, you can not loose with it ;)09:37
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LjLi haven't even seen any updates today :o)09:37
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timinphx1I had 7 or 809:38
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trex_what is the spanish channel?09:39
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.09:39
Digital_Pioneerbeemer: Well, when I actually put it in the real deal... Not so lucky. If you haven't already gone, have fun at your meeting. :)09:39
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Xzyx987Xok, if I start kdm right after logging in it says it's already started09:41
DaSkreechIs there a power outage in Texas or something?09:41
Xzyx987Xif I try to restart it the system locks up09:41
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Xzyx987XI really wish linux's gui archetecture was simplified a bit...09:43
flaviofdoving: mission complete! thank you so much!09:43
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Xzyx987XI don't see what kde couldn't just interface with linix directly rather that going through x09:43
bipolarXzyx987X: once you understand whats going on you won't feel that way09:44
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Xzyx987XI don't really understand why you need x in the first place09:44
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Xzyx987Xlinux should handle the drivers, and the window manager should handle the drawing09:44
Xzyx987Xwhat else do you need?09:45
bipolarXzyx987X: drawing to what?09:45
Xzyx987Xthe screen via the driver interface09:45
bipolarXzyx987X: you're missing a few layers there. :)09:45
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bipolarXzyx987X: If you do that, then all your apps need to be written for that window manager09:46
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Xzyx987Xnaw, wxWidgets style stuff gets around that09:46
TheGateKeeperXzyx987X: fairly obvious you don't understand X, it has a client server achitecture there is more too it than just running a desktop pc09:46
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bipolarXzyx987X: and the window manager would need to know how to draw very primitive things and become a bloated mess.09:46
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Xzyx987Xonly if it was poorly designed...09:47
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bipolarXzyx987X: you need to do some reading. :)09:48
Xzyx987Xyou would obviously implement the primitive drawing rutines in a sublibrary...09:48
hazardthe reconfigurator for x11.conf borked up09:48
hazardthere, now I'm back on my old file.09:48
hazardwhat color mode is 256colors?09:48
bipolarhazard: umm... 16bit?09:48
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bipolarno, 809:48
Xzyx987Xall I know is, the whole linux scence in general is too dependant on configuration09:49
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Xzyx987Xall the independant apps being put in charge of vital os tasks is just asking for trouble09:49
bipolarXzyx987X: all I know is, the whole car manufatuing scene is too dependant on mechanics09:49
timinphx1there always Microsoft!!  ha ha ha09:49
nnn0M$ is bankrupt next year09:50
hazardWhich is a giant mess of regestry dependency.09:50
Xzyx987X...I started using linux so I could stay away from vista...09:50
Xzyx987Xbut as it turns out, linux has it's own problems...09:50
hazardThere is no PERFECT os.09:50
timinphx1It was a joke 8-)09:50
bipolarXzyx987X: trust me, once you understand how it works, and *why* it's built that way, you will feel much better about it.09:50
BluesKajthere is no magic bullet '09:50
bipolartheres more then one way to skin a cat... er... or something.09:51
hazardWhat do the 'virtual' lines mean in the "Display" subsections in Xorg.conf mean?09:51
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bipolarhazard: you can have a desktop thats bigger then the actual display size09:51
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bipolarhazard: not all that useful any more09:51
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Xzyx987Xlook, all I'm saying, is if linux ever wants to crack the desktop market they've got to make it harder to keep it from crashing and burning09:52
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bipolarXzyx987X: those kinds of things are being worked on all the time. it keeps getting better.09:52
hazardIs there a way to restart Xwindows without logging out (and having to close everything?)09:52
Xzyx987Xand eliminated some of the excess of components would definately help that09:52
nnn0you could always run QNX :)09:53
hazardOr headless Debian.09:53
bipolarhazard: not really. all the apps are children of the XServer, so to speak.09:53
hazardwell, I'll be back then09:53
timinphx1I think ubuntu has made great stides in that direction09:53
Xzyx987XI mean, it's no wonder ms still has the lead with the state of the competition09:53
TheGateKeeperXzyx987X: use a more stable distro then, hell you have over 300 to choose from...09:53
Xzyx987XI assume there would be the same problem all around09:54
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bipolarXzyx987X: heh... I guess you've never seen what a windows machine does if it's display drivers fubar09:54
nnn0QNX is like nuclear reactor kind of OS :)09:54
Xzyx987Xthat being, one tiny mistake in a configuration file in the most obscure place, and you won't be able to fix it without hours of sifting through documentation09:55
timinphx1Windows registry is way worse09:55
bipolarXzyx987X: thats why you back up your config file before changing it.09:55
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bipolarXzyx987X: then all you have to do is copy the original version back09:55
bipolarXzyx987X: you can't do that in windows.09:55
Xzyx987Xeven then, what just happened to me with losing the kde login screen had nothing to do with a configuration file...09:55
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Xzyx987Xand yes you can...09:56
BluesKajXzyx987X, I used several linux disros including suse , debian a, mandriva etc and so far Kubuntu is the best in terms of hardware recogintion and useability , which to me is the most important aspect of anOS09:56
Xzyx987Xit hapened when I was installing a driver package...09:56
bipolarXzyx987X: how? backing up the whole registry?09:56
TheGateKeeperXzyx987X: why are you trolling ?09:56
DaSkreechTheGateKeeper: he's expressing right now09:56
timinphx1I agree BluesKay!09:56
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TheGateKeeperDaSkreech: I have doubts about that...09:57
Xzyx987Xnot intentionally trolling, just ended up that way...09:57
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DaSkreechXzyx987X: the fact is that X is very capable and it needs a large deal of flexibilty09:57
DaSkreechXzyx987X: As such it has a hefty configuration file09:57
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bipolarTo be honest, the Xorg.conf file doesn't need much in it. Anymore X autoconfigs itself for the most part09:58
Xzyx987Xthe configuration file isn't the problem, the problem is it doesn't automatically handle error09:58
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DaSkreechXzyx987X: It can probably use some better management for people who need it to do simple thngs but try and accept it for what it is09:58
Xzyx987Xwhich is a must for and component of that importance to the system imo09:58
bipolarXzyx987X: it sounds like the problem in your case is not X, but rather KDM09:58
DaSkreechXzyx987X: I don't think that X should do that for the scenario you are painting09:58
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TheGateKeeperXzyx987X: what exactly is the problem & how did you get there?09:59
Xzyx987Xeither way, if the components were integated I bet the source of the problem would be easier to track down09:59
bipolarXzyx987X: if KDM is already running, starting it again will probbly start another X server on another virtual terminal.09:59
DaSkreechbut if you really think that it's a problem bring it up with the people who make X and if they listen to your explanation at least pay them the courtesy of listening to thiers :)09:59
Xzyx987Xkubuntu quit booting to the kde login screen basically09:59
hazardOk, how do I get X to change resolutions?09:59
Xzyx987Xafter installing the beta nvidia drivers10:00
bipolarXzyx987X: it doesn't work that way. when you integrate too many things together, it becomes HARDER to track problems down.10:00
hazardI put a second resolution entry in xorg.conf, but I can't seem to change to it.10:00
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bipolarXzyx987X: um.... beta?10:00
Xzyx987X...well the drivers run fine10:00
Xzyx987XI'm running them right not10:00
bipolarXzyx987X: does X start?10:00
TheGateKeeperXzyx987X: I see linux is crap because you have installed beta drivers10:00
Xzyx987XI'm in kde right now10:00
DaSkreechTheGateKeeper: Stop trolling :)10:01
TheGateKeeperDaSkreech: I rest my case ^^^^10:01
bipolarXzyx987X: er... please be specific. what is not working?10:01
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DaSkreechTheGateKeeper: Heehee10:01
Xzyx987XI'm not saying it's crap, I'm syaing a good os would not allow itself to get that screwed up10:01
hazardHow do I have xserver change resoltuions and color depths?10:01
hazardfrom say, the command line?10:01
DaSkreechXzyx987X: Ah! I think I see the problem10:01
Xzyx987Xdo tell10:02
bipolarhazard: well, you can check out the xrandr command.10:02
DaSkreechXzyx987X: X is not an OS10:02
hazardOh, so a GOOD OS can't do anything you want...10:02
DaSkreechIt's program10:02
DaSkreechLike ls or find or Firefox10:02
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hazardchecking bipolar10:02
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DaSkreechmarkowka: Hiya10:02
Xzyx987Xno kidding, but it has become a vital os component nonetheless10:02
DaSkreechXzyx987X: No it hasn't10:02
Xzyx987Xwhich is part of the problem really10:02
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DaSkreechIt's vital to you10:02
DaSkreechMuch like how Firefox is vital to me10:02
Xzyx987Xwell, it's vital to anyone who wants a gui...10:03
DaSkreechand if Firefox gets broken I get steamed10:03
DaSkreechbut it's just a program10:03
hazardI actually don't like xwindows much it eatsup too much memory ( I perfer systems with no GUI)10:03
timinphx1is anyone having a problem with x not starting during boot...I just started having that issue?10:03
nnn0CLI owns10:03
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TheGateKeeperXzyx987X: go and install Sabayon, comes with nvidia drivers pre-installed10:03
DaSkreechXzyx987X: two things. One learn how to use CLI enough to fix X and you will get a better appreciation of it10:03
DaSkreechXzyx987X: And look at how X works and see how to make it simpler for people to use10:04
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Xzyx987XI've fixed it several times before, wasting hourse of my life I will never get back...10:04
hazardNope, xrandr confuses me.10:04
DaSkreechBut it is just a program and one that relies on a few other also trepid programs10:04
Xzyx987Xbut as for this problem, I can't even find the source10:04
DaSkreechLike your beta drivers10:05
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hazardI'm confused. Instead of egging on the troll, how about some help?10:05
Xzyx987XI gurentee you if I uninstalled them it wouldn't go away10:05
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Xzyx987Xthe beta drivers actually work better once they're running than the regular ones10:05
timinphx1that wouldn't be as interesting10:06
nnn0there is a textbased gui though - don'tremember it's name10:06
Xzyx987XI think the problem was I installed the from a standalone rather that a package...10:06
DaSkreechOk so just to establish You don't actually need any help right now?10:06
hazardI do!!10:06
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Xzyx987XI do need help, I want kde's loging screen to start when I boot again10:06
Xzyx987Xis that too much to ask?10:06
timinphx1Me too!!10:07
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timinphx1Xzyx987X: What was your initial issue?10:07
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bipolarXzyx987X: what happens now when you boot?10:09
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Random_Transit#join mpeg410:10
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Random_Transitcan anyone tell me why i can't edit song info for m4a files??10:10
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DaSkreechtiminphx1, bipolar: I'm helping in PM10:13
bipolarDaSkreech: cool10:13
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timinphx1Don't forget poor hazard10:14
hazardDon't forget me.10:14
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hazardtiming: 640x480@75 Hz (VESA) <- I need a model line for that for my x11 conf file I think.10:15
nicksteMan, the only thing stopping me from fully using kubuntu is lack of flash support in 64bit :(10:15
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DaSkreech~/.xsession-errors is appeneded to at the top or bottom?10:16
bipolarhazard: what are you displaying on that uses such a low res?10:16
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Random_Transitcan anyone help me?10:16
hazardNothing, but I want to be able to swtich resolutions10:16
hazardwhich I can't.10:17
Random_Transiti'm just wondering why i can't edit song info for m4a files??10:17
hazardsince only 1024x768 is configured.10:17
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hazardRandom_Transit: from itunes?10:17
hazardIK dunno then.10:17
bipolarhazard: ahh... ok.10:17
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bipolarhazard: what color depth are you using? 32bit I'd guess..10:18
DaSkreechRandom_Transit: From Amarok?10:19
hazardactuallyk, I want the 640x480 to be 256 colors10:19
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bipolarhazard: hmm... I wonder how X handles switching color depths10:19
hazardbut I'd go for 'working switching' for starters10:19
DaSkreechRandom_Transit: I think that they are still adding in support what version are you running?10:19
bipolarhazard: make a backup of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to start :)10:19
Random_TransitDaSkreech, 1.4.310:19
hazardI did.10:20
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hazardI've also created display subsections in my conf file for "640x480@75" in my conf file10:20
hazardwow, I must be tired.10:21
bipolarhazard: I don't think you need to do that.10:21
hazardwell, nothing has exploded, and it seemed like a good place to start.10:21
bipolarhazard: i'll message you....10:21
hazardI don't have a registered nick if that matters.10:21
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nicksteWhat is a better msn alternative to kopete?10:22
Random_Transitor kmess10:23
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nicksteaaahhhh! Beryl is sooo awesome!10:23
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ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.10:23
hazardbipolar: I've only got one for 1024x76810:23
bipolarhazard: so add to it. :)10:24
hazardwell, that's what I did.10:24
hazardand in the same form.10:24
hazardbut I still can't change.10:25
bipolarhazard: you would want something like: Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"10:25
bipolarhazard: then you need to restart X to accept the config10:25
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bipolarhazard: also, what is your monitor? is it an LCD?10:25
hazarda sony one10:25
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hazardwhat about the section under monitor with the model line?10:26
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bipolarhazard: is it capible of using non-native resolutions?10:26
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bthibaulthi, where can i ask a question about printing (cups)10:26
hazardthat still only says "1024x768"10:26
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apokryphosbthibault: #ubuntu is better10:26
bipolarhazard: model lines?10:26
hazardI have no idea, all I want are 1024x768 & 640x480SVGA which it supports (as its what the bios uses)10:26
hazardin the monitor section10:27
caribou7Are there instructions anywhere for installing XMMS plugins that are not in the Kubuntu repositories?  I specifically would like to install the MPlayer Input Plugin.10:27
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bipolarhazard: comment out that line.10:27
apokryphoscaribou7: xmms? Geh10:27
hazardcomments are # right?10:27
bipolarhazard: modern versions of X using modern hardware do not need them.10:27
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bipolarhazard: it will be autodetected.10:27
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bipolarhazard: yes, #10:28
Mr_Panhow can delete a failed packet (xfonts.intl.european) from apt-upgrade ?10:28
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caribou7apokryphos: Do I make comments about your choice of players?  XMMS has some plugins I want to use.10:28
hazardso, for now I made my 'modes' line iunder the display subsection "1024x768@60""640x480@75"10:28
apokryphoscaribou7: #ubuntu is better10:29
hazardcan I comment out the virtual ine?10:29
bipolarhazard: I'd remove the "@xx" from the end.10:29
bipolarhazard: yes. comment out the virtual line10:29
hazardanything else?10:29
bipolarhazard: well, if you paste your config file into the query I sent you mine in, I'll look it over to be sure.10:30
hazardI can't, non-regiserted nicks can't send messages.10:30
hazardbipolar: ^^10:30
bipolarhazard: well, register. :)10:31
hazardI'd just forget the password (and someone else already has this nick reged I think)10:31
timinphx1how/where does one register?10:31
bipolarhazard: try pastebin....10:31
hazardhow do you /join again?10:31
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bipolarhazard: /join #channelname10:32
hazardOh, there we go.10:32
hazardyou there/here/wherver?10:32
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bipolarhazard: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org << paste your config file there10:33
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bipolarhazard: to get to this channel, /join #kubuntu10:33
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flacciddon't you love it when you get to work and go to use net bank to get money for coffee and the bank's site is down10:34
bipolarhazard: that looks clean. give it a shot10:35
hazardshould I just restart or is there some easier way to restart X?10:35
trispacehazard: ctrl-alt-backspace10:36
bipolarhazard: you can logout, then hit ctrl+alt+backspace. or go to a terminal outside X, and "/etc/init.d/kdm restart"10:36
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bipolarctrl+alt+backspace kills X instantly... so it's better to logout first. I hope you can read this... :P10:37
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trispacebipolar: lol :)10:37
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caribou7No, #ubuntu isn't better.  :(10:38
timinphx1well, you just answered a small part of my question/problem...thanks10:38
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bipolarhey! he's back10:38
bipolarhazard: how's it look now?10:38
hazardUmm.. the same.10:38
hazardHow'd I go about changing the resolution?10:39
bipolarhazard: hmmm...10:39
bipolarhazard: oh!10:39
hazardctrl-alt-+ doesn't do anything10:39
bipolarhazard: run xrandr in a term and tell me what it says is available?10:39
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hazard*0   1024 x 768    ( 302mm x 232mm )  *6010:40
hazard 1    512 x 38410:40
hazard, I wanted to take some of those lines out10:40
bipolar512x384.... weird10:40
hazardyea, that's what I got it to do last time.10:40
hazardI didn't get it to actually switch, but it said that.10:40
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bipolarhazard: yeah. it won't switch unless you tell it to. let me give you a gui app to do it....10:41
hazardthe system display settings are clueless about it to.10:41
hazardI'm running dapper still if that makes a diffrence10:42
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hazardI'm fine with the command line (unless the commands are carcenegenicly long)10:43
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DaSkreechtiminphx1, bipolar: I'm gone See if you can help Xzyx987X anymore10:43
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Xzyx987Xthatks for the help10:43
Xzyx987XI gotta restart before anything else10:44
bipolarI don't know what I can do. I'm on 3 things at once here ;P10:44
bipolarhazard: install krandrtray10:44
hazardhow big is it?10:44
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DaSkreechXzyx987X: Wait10:44
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install irssi10:44
bipolarhazard: wait.... it's installed already probbly.10:44
bipolarhazard: run it :)10:44
hazardso it is10:45
Xzyx987Xah, t worked10:45
hazardnope, it tired to change, then switched back.10:45
duane_anyone know how to keep flash 9 from crashing every fucking 10 minutes?10:45
hazardit also says that its that weird size.10:45
timinphx1it's beta! I've had no problems with it though10:46
bipolarhazard: hmmm.... I don't know what to do at this point. let me finish this vpn install and I'll look at it again.10:46
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LjL!language | duane_10:46
ubotuduane_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:46
hazardbipolar: thanks for the help, but I've got to run to a class, perhaps later.10:46
Xzyx987Xah, it's a shell based irc client10:47
bipolarhazard: ok10:47
Xzyx987XI'll stick to xchat for now :P10:47
duane_sorry :(10:47
timinphx1duane: it's still beta, but haven't heard of any problems10:47
hazardlater all10:47
timinphx1me too!10:48
duane_timinphx1: have you used it?10:49
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mariuszpodalby mi ktos jeszcze raz pl?10:54
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firegirlhave any of you ever had problems with sound card configurations?10:57
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wa9nohi, anyone knows how to unpack exe file ? (i need some win .inf and .sys for my wifi card)10:57
omicronwa9no: try wine10:57
canine_koujinow Novell has deep relations with gnome, I know exactly what they're referring to by compatible technologies, they're talking about mono10:58
canine_koujimono is a stinking heap of "Not Implemented" Crap :/10:58
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Dinkand Novell is joining up with M$10:58
mariuszpl pl?10:58
MetaMorfoziScan i oreder by package sizes in adept?10:58
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl10:58
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canine_koujiDink: I don't know what this will do to GNOME  :/10:58
canine_koujiDink: This isn't good :(10:59
Dinkhonestly no idea10:59
Dinkmariusz, zyous zwelcomes10:59
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Dinkand really i use kde so :P11:00
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wa9noomicron: ive heared something that unzip can do the job (unpack exe)11:02
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omicronwa9no: if it is an selfextracting zip file calle bla.exe i think: unzip bla.exe should work..11:03
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omicronwa9no: if not just try: wine bla.exe worked for me several times11:04
fdovingwa9no: you can also try 'cabextract' (in universe)11:04
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FJ_SanchezI've a problem when plug in a usbdisk11:08
FJ_SanchezI get the KDE popup and if I choose to open it mount the unit, but now the disk doesn't have the name it had before upgrading to Edgy11:08
FJ_Sanchezany help?11:08
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martin__hello world11:15
jmichaelxdoes anyone know of an edgy repo that contains ralink wireless drivers (rt2***)?11:16
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PupenoI have a monitor and a TV connected to a computer with a SiS card. I see the same thing in the TV as in the monitor, but if I run mplayer, I see a blue rectangle in the TV where in the monitor I see the video. Xine shows the video in both. Any idea how to make mplayer show the video in both or on the TV ?11:16
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:17
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_tsdgeosPupeno: it's one of the overlay options afair11:17
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cpk1I seem to hava a java error trying to use youtube with konquerer, are there any known problems?11:18
bipolarok... for future referance... *Upgrading* from the edgy CD seems to only work with the *Alternitive* CD, not the live CD.11:18
trappistcpk1: you mean javascript?11:18
cpk1trappist: yes, i was too lazy to type it all out =P11:18
bipolarapt can't find the package repository on the live CD11:19
trappistcpk1: it's an important distinction - they're two totally different things, and youtube doesn't use any java11:19
jmichaelxlupine_85: do you have (or know of) an edgy repo with ralink drivers?11:19
cpk1trappist: well considering that if i try the same page in FF youtube tells me that I might have javascript turned off I am pretty sure it does =)11:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rt2570 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:20
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trappistcpk1: still has nothing to do with java.  still a javascript error.  just wanted you to know that to avoid confusion, you need to distinguish between java and javascript.11:23
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manchickenAnybody know where I can score some 1440x900 wps?11:29
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:31
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jonathan__i can't play videos flv helpme!!!!!11:40
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Xzyx987Xdamnit, I still can't boot to the kde login screen, even though I fixed every problem I could find11:41
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fignewwhat type of screen are you getting?11:43
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Xzyx987Xcommand prompt11:43
Xzyx987XI can start kde via startx, but that's the only way11:44
fignewsudo /etc/ini.d/kdm restart11:44
fignewsudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart11:44
FJ_SanchezI have one question, before to upgrade to Edgy in Desktop properties --> Appareance --> Icon devices I could check an option for Unmounted removable devices but this option doesn't apperar now11:45
FJ_SanchezAny idea?11:45
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bipolarXzyx987X: what do you get instead of the kde boot screen?11:47
Xzyx987Xshowed the splash screen for a minute, then froze on a creen with a flashing charot11:48
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bipolaroh, nm11:48
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FJ_SanchezI have one question, before to upgrade to Edgy in Desktop properties --> Appareance --> Icon devices I could check an option for Unmounted removable devices but this option doesn't apperar now11:48
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Xzyx987Xwhat is that script of configure xorg again?11:48
bipolarXzyx987X: reboot, at the command line, login as your normal user. Run "ps aux > ps.log" then startx.11:48
TheGateKeeperFJ_Sanchez: have you tried using kcontrol to find what you are looking for?11:48
bipolarXzyx987X: then come pack here. paste the ps.log file to pastebin so we can look at it.11:49
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Xzyx987Xok, but what is the command to configure x quick?11:49
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bipolardpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:49
bipolarI think....11:49
Bizzyok, so, if i install kubuntu over 3 partitions /boot swap and / , as primary partitions 0 1 and 2, to take up 120 or so gb then have primary part 3 as another 120gb would i be able to run windows xp from that, if my bios doesnt like booting past 2gb ?11:49
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humanizerHi there!11:51
LeeJunFanBizzy: it should, the bios will hand off control to grub by then.11:52
Bizzyso, stick grub in mbr and have boot as first part, and around 50mb, and use grub to chainload xp?11:53
Fureshoif a linux distro can't handle -- let's say -- debian packages, is there a way you could make said distro handle deb packages?11:54
LeeJunFanBizzy: yeah, as long as grub is your bootloader it really shouldn't matter if the bios doesn't like 2gB, grub will be within that first 2G.11:55
manchickenFuresho: You could always install dpkg and then just extract the packages.11:56
manchickenFuresho: That'd be a dirty hack though.11:56
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Xzyx987Xhere's the log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29928/11:58
HawkwindFuresho: Smartpm is supposed to be capable of installing different package types on different OS's11:58
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Fureshohmmmm........ Smartpm, ehhh?11:59
Fureshoi'll look into smartpm first, then.11:59
Fureshothx to ya both ^__^11:59
FJ_SanchezTheGateKeeper: I don't understand where can I found this there12:00
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TheGateKeeperFJ_Sanchez: you won't find it on the menu, do Run Command... kcontrol12:01
Xzyx987Xdamnit, he quit without reading it...12:01
Xzyx987Xanyone else wanna take a crack at this?12:01
Xzyx987Xkubuntu is booting to the comand prompt after a botched audio driver install12:02
HawkwindXzyx987X: You wanting to boot to your normal KDM ?12:02
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FJ_SanchezNothing there12:03
HawkwindXzyx987X: sudo update-rc.d kdm defaults12:03
ubuntu_kann man bei kubuntu die internet verbindung freigeben?12:03
TheGateKeeperFJ_Sanchez: what you running ?12:03
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Xzyx987XSystem startup links for /etc/init.d/kdm already exist.12:03
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:04
FJ_SanchezI only want to view my unmounted removable device icons on Desktop like I had in Dapper12:04
FJ_SanchezNow I don't see this option in Desktop properties12:04
Xzyx987Xso uh... does the message "System startup links for /etc/init.d/kdm already exist." mean it didn't work?12:04
FJ_SanchezI can see them when are mounted, but doesn't before12:04
TheGateKeeperFJ_Sanchez: and kcontrol in edgy is not installed ??12:05
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FJ_SanchezBut nothing usesful there12:05
HawkwindXzyx987X: Not sure.  That command should set things back to normal and let you boot to KDM12:05
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Xzyx987XI'll try to delete it and run the command again...12:05
TheGateKeeperFJ_Sanchez: konqueror --> storrage media ??12:06
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ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras12:06
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:06
FJ_SanchezI only see cdrom0 sdb2 (i dunno what is this) and my windows partition12:06
MaterFJ_Sanchez, are you sure you cant change that in configure desktop?12:07
FJ_SanchezBut I cannot see my umounted removable device12:07
Matersecond option, third tab12:07
RopechoborraWhy i cant run Easycam2 on kubuntu?12:07
RopechoborraIt says:   File "/usr/share/EasyCam2/easycam.py", line 25, in ?12:07
Ropechoborra    import gnome.ui12:07
RopechoborraImportError: No module named gnome.u12:07
Xzyx987Xwell, if it's deleted it complains about the file not existing...12:07
FJ_SanchezIf I go to Desktop properties --> Appareance --> Device Icons12:08
Xzyx987Xbut I'm pretty sure the command didn't do anything either way12:08
{slacky}I've got this proble: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/5913412:08
{slacky}but I read it's fixed12:08
FJ_SanchezI can check the box that says "Mounted Removable device" to show the icons in my desktop when they are mounted12:08
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{slacky}it's not fixed12:08
FJ_SanchezAnd that works right12:08
Xzyx987Xsince the modified date on the kdm file didn't change12:08
Xzyx987Xany other ideas?12:09
FJ_SanchezBut in dapper I had also a box that said "Unmounted removable devices" and nowin Edgy I don't have this box12:09
FJ_SanchezDo you have this? Maybe kubuntu simply remove that feature12:09
Xzyx987XI there a system restore type feature in ubuntu that restores your configuration to defaults?12:09
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Materi dont have it12:10
Xzyx987Xcause this is getting to be too much of a pain in the ass to find a solution for12:10
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