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| joejaxx | wow launchpad is back to quiet | 02:02 |
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| mpt | Gooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! | 02:30 |
| ajmitch | hello mpt | 02:31 |
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| joejaxx | mpt: :D | 02:48 |
| mpt | What? :-) | 02:51 |
| joejaxx | mpt: your greeting :) | 02:52 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #69808 in malone "Remote bug watches should get an initial status at creation time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69808 | 03:10 |
| jamesh | lifeless: can you tell me what the pattern for that series is? | 03:20 |
| lifeless | jamesh: garh | 03:41 |
| lifeless | it did not save it :( | 03:41 |
| lifeless | ok, its saved now | 03:43 |
| lifeless | jamesh: http://www.die.net/musings/page_load_time/ | 04:28 |
| lifeless | courtesy jdub | 04:28 |
| lifeless | spiv: ^ | 04:29 |
| lifeless | mm, who else should see this | 04:29 |
| jamesh | lifeless: SteveA pointed that out a few days ago | 04:29 |
| lifeless | ok, well then ;) | 04:29 |
| jamesh | it's interesting | 04:29 |
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| jamesh | lifeless: w.r.t. that article, do you think our use of SSL would affect the use of multiple host names much? | 06:08 |
| jamesh | lifeless: e.g. would it result in extra SSL negotiations? | 06:09 |
| lifeless | the extra SSL counts as a penalty on three-way handshake time | 06:10 |
| lifeless | so its pretty much requivalent to just a higher RTT time | 06:10 |
| stub | Are browsers smart enough to pipeline HTTPS connections even when they don't do it under standard HTTP? | 06:11 |
| lifeless | IOW, it makes having larger images, and more hostnames a better tradeoff | 06:11 |
| lifeless | stub: no | 06:11 |
| jamesh | stub: there is a switch you can flick in firefox to turn on pipelining | 06:11 |
| lifeless | HTTPS is no better or worse as a protocol - its literally just HTTP wrapped in SSL | 06:11 |
| stub | I was wondering though if the SSL layer is torn down after every request or reused | 06:12 |
| stub | (eg. keep the pipe open for x seconds in case a new page needs to be loaded from that ip) | 06:13 |
| lifeless | same rules as for http | 06:13 |
| jamesh | stub: if the HTTP connection is keepalive, it will be reused | 06:13 |
| lifeless | if you can keep an http pipe open, you do so, because it saves RTT for the 3-way setup | 06:13 |
| lifeless | most browsers keepalive by default IME these days | 06:13 |
| lifeless | but keepalive != pipeline | 06:14 |
| jamesh | pipelining is sending N requests down the socket and then waiting for N replies | 06:14 |
| jamesh | rather than only having one pending request at a time | 06:14 |
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| stub | i see | 06:18 |
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| stub | bah. repository locks suck. | 06:25 |
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| carlos | morning | 09:23 |
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| SteveA | hi | 10:03 |
| jamesh | morning SteveA | 10:05 |
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| SteveA | good morning jamesh | 10:08 |
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| === Topic for #launchpad: Developer meeting: Thu 9 Nov, 1200UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 | ||
| === Topic (#launchpad): set by mpt at Thu Nov 2 13:05:58 2006 | ||
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| === Topic for #launchpad: Developer meeting: Thu 9 Nov, 1200UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 | ||
| === Topic (#launchpad): set by mpt at Thu Nov 2 13:05:58 2006 | ||
| (Mez/#launchpad) I'm not a dev though, just an advocate and user | 05:52 | |
| (luisbg/#launchpad) ;) | 05:52 | |
| (luisbg/#launchpad) an other thing | 05:52 | |
| (luisbg/#launchpad) is the team owner the only one able to make big changes, or are all the admins? | 05:52 | |
| Mez | changes to what ? | 05:52 |
| luisbg | anything | 05:53 |
| luisbg | question is... admins have the same rights as owner? | 05:54 |
| Mez | I'm not too sure.... | 05:54 |
| Mez | lol# | 05:54 |
| luisbg | LOL | 05:54 |
| Mez | there are a couple of differences (or there used to be) | 05:55 |
| luisbg | I will just leave it this way for now | 05:55 |
| Mez | I've never really had to use my admin privileges for anything other than approving members ;) | 05:55 |
| Mez | (in groups that I'm not the owner of) | 05:55 |
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| carlos | danilos: sorry, I had a small power cut | 05:56 |
| luisbg | Mez, ok, thanks again | 05:57 |
| carlos | danilos: did you see my question? | 05:57 |
| danilos | carlos: np, but you missed a hug by dholbach then ;) | 05:57 |
| danilos | carlos: no, what question? | 05:57 |
| carlos | >carlos< danilos: do you know whether we are able to add custom tags/headers for firefox like we do with .po files with X-WHATEVER ? | 05:57 |
| carlos | danilos: we will need that to expand the fix for bug #68014 to other file formats | 05:57 |
| carlos | in this case, for Firefox | 05:57 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 68014 in rosetta "Rosetta reverts translation fixes to old faulty values" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68014 | 05:57 |
| danilos | well, we can add anything we wish, we just need to decide where to add it (i.e. we can add a completely new file with our metadata in there if we wish) | 05:58 |
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| joejaxx | hello everyone i am back after that freenode incident | 05:59 |
| carlos | danilos: well, I would prefer to use one of the metadata files in .xpi archives | 05:59 |
| Mez | hmmm - I've just had a thought of how LP might get a lil screwy | 06:00 |
| carlos | but lets talk about it next week at UDS.... | 06:00 |
| Mez | add two groups, and change the owner of each group to the other | 06:00 |
| carlos | joejaxx: hi | 06:00 |
| Mez | so they own each other... | 06:00 |
| joejaxx | carlos: hello | 06:00 |
| danilos | carlos: sure, next week is better, probably, since we can talk face-to-face ;) | 06:00 |
| carlos | Mez: you will need a launchpad admin to fix that | 06:01 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #69911 in blueprint "difficult to get a list of a person's specs at a given sprint" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69911 | 06:01 |
| Mez | carlos, I know - but I havent done it - i'm just saying - it'd be a bit ****ked if that happened | 06:01 |
| carlos | Mez: I was just pointing that we can fix it without major problems... | 06:02 |
| carlos | Mez: but yeah, I guess we should prevent that, could you file a bug? | 06:03 |
| Mez | carlos will in a bit | 06:03 |
| carlos | (well, in fact, I'm not sure whether we already prevent that...) | 06:03 |
| carlos | but it's a corner case that we would miss | 06:03 |
| Mez | hmmm.... | 06:09 |
| Mez | nice ... | 06:09 |
| Mez | I cant fiel bugs via email | 06:10 |
| Mez | it isnt accepting my "affects" lines | 06:10 |
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| carlos | Mez: are you signing your email with your GPG key? | 06:17 |
| Mez | CARLOS - YES | 06:17 |
| Mez | darn caps | 06:17 |
| Mez | forgot theindentation tis all | 06:18 |
| joejaxx | lol | 06:18 |
| carlos | ;-) | 06:18 |
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| Mez | lmao getign bounces from gmail because someons mailbox is full | 06:19 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #69919 in malone "Bugs in non-existant package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69919 | 06:20 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #69920 in malone "Add all groups to bugmail settings?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69920 | 06:20 |
| Mez | there we go ;) | 06:21 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #69924 in malone "Recursive owner team setting?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69924 | 06:30 |
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| luisbg | where do I edit the "Details" section that appears in the homepage of a team? | 06:30 |
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| joejaxx | luisbg: hey you are in here too :D | 06:54 |
| luisbg | joejaxx, hey =) | 06:54 |
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| highvoltage | Hi. any launchpad admins around? | 08:16 |
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| joejaxx | kiko: are you around? i had some questions | 08:55 |
| joejaxx | if you do not mind :) | 08:55 |
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| mdke_ | rock, bug spam | 09:01 |
| mdke_ | https://launchpad.net/bugs/2553 | 09:01 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 2553 in launchpad "Can't edit group wiki page details" [Medium,Confirmed] | 09:01 |
| mdke_ | in the description too, no less | 09:01 |
| mdke_ | do you have a bug about that? :p | 09:01 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #69942 in launchpad "we sell nike shoes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69942 | 09:06 |
| mdke_ | haha | 09:06 |
| mdke_ | someone might want to ban that user | 09:06 |
| mdke_ | lifeless: you can do that? | 09:06 |
| lifeless | mdke_: not really. We have work being done to allow banning. I can change their password though | 09:12 |
| mdke_ | lifeless: that would work | 09:13 |
| lifeless | well | 09:18 |
| lifeless | they can just do password recovery | 09:18 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #69946 in launchpad "admin use of /people/PERSON/+changepassword does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69946 | 09:26 |
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| lifeless | jamesh: where is the code for pending-reviews these days ? | 09:34 |
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| janneke-lily | I've registered LilyPond's CVS branch. The status now says: Auto Tested, Date last sync finished: 2006-10-31. | 09:51 |
| janneke-lily | But there's nothing but ~janneke/+junk when I login on sftp? | 09:52 |
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| giskard | do you know if i can search people by *localtimezone*? | 10:47 |
| lifeless | dont think so | 10:48 |
| lifeless | interesting idea though, you might like to file a bug requesting this | 10:48 |
| lifeless | or a spec | 10:48 |
| giskard | lifeless: what you prefer? | 10:48 |
| giskard | hi lifeless :) | 10:48 |
| lifeless | well we work off specs, so a spec is probably the right thing to file | 10:48 |
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| lifeless | pqm is doing down for maintenance | 11:19 |
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| theCore | is there an Launchpad admin here? | 11:21 |
| theCore | I just want to notice that there a user that is posting spam in Bug report | 11:23 |
| theCore | https://launchpad.net/people/shoesshop | 11:23 |
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| theCore | for example, in this one https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/2553 | 11:23 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 2553 in launchpad "Can't edit group wiki page details" [Medium,Confirmed] | 11:23 |
| theCore | this user too https://launchpad.net/people/aotaielec | 11:26 |
| lifeless | theCore: yes, but we currently have little tools to manage this | 11:28 |
| theCore | and maybe it isn't a good idea to let people have a nickname that start with something else than a letter | 11:31 |
| theCore | https://launchpad.net/people/+peoplelist?start=0&batch=75 | 11:31 |
| theCore | but that is purely an aesthetic choice... not really a bug | 11:32 |
| theCore | there also some "spam" accounts, like the "malinda0000x" https://launchpad.net/people/+peoplelist?start=225&batch=75 | 11:34 |
| theCore | I wonder why someone would want to register 35 accounts... | 11:35 |
| lifeless | we do that | 11:35 |
| lifeless | when we generate usernames and they collide | 11:35 |
| theCore | yeah, but I doubt the "malinda" ones are real accounts | 11:37 |
| theCore | check the email addresses | 11:37 |
| theCore | malinda00XX@yahoo.com | 11:37 |
| lifeless | I see | 11:37 |
| theCore | Is there a way to get an advance people search? | 11:38 |
| theCore | (ew, that doesn't sounded right ...) | 11:38 |
| lifeless | heh | 11:39 |
| theCore | oh, I found a bug | 11:39 |
| theCore | https://launchpad.net/people/+peoplelist?start=721125&batch=75 | 11:40 |
| theCore | Timeout error: OOPS-306D733 | 11:40 |
| Ubugtu | https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/306D733 | 11:40 |
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| theCore | Is there someone managing the mailing-list? | 11:54 |
| theCore | the lp-users one? | 11:54 |
| theCore | because there a good load of bogus emails | 11:55 |
| SteveA | theCore: what kind of bogus emails have you seen? | 11:56 |
| theCore | SteveA, many empty messages, plus some spam | 11:56 |
| theCore | thankfully, it's nothing like the linux-kernel mailing list | 11:57 |
| theCore | where I get about 10-20 spam messages per day | 11:57 |
| theCore | I would be glad to help managing the mailing list, if you need someone | 11:59 |
| SteveA | I haven't seen any spam in there | 12:01 |
| SteveA | sometimes, people sign up to the list, and then send empty or almost empty emails | 12:02 |
| theCore | sure? I just deleted one | 12:02 |
| SteveA | or emails with just their name and address | 12:02 |
| theCore | yeah, these are common | 12:02 |
| SteveA | I don't know why they send these emails. I've tried asking, and so has kiko. No reply. | 12:02 |
| SteveA | I guess there's something in the instructions on the shipit page, maybe the error page, that some people are misunderstanding | 12:02 |
| SteveA | I mean, they've gone to the trouble to sign up to the mailing list | 12:03 |
| theCore | I wonder how they find the list... | 12:03 |
| SteveA | theCore: do you still have the spam you deleted? (on my imap server, I keep deleted things around until I "purge" the mailbox) | 12:03 |
| theCore | probably | 12:03 |
| theCore | let me check | 12:03 |
| SteveA | on the launchpad OOPS pages, it says to sign up to the list if you want to tell the launchpad team about a problem with launchpad that is blocking your work | 12:04 |
| SteveA | if you can send me that email, with all its headers still there, then I'll look into it | 12:04 |
| theCore | hmm... I don't find it | 12:07 |
| theCore | maybe it was from another list | 12:07 |
| SteveA | perhaps. | 12:07 |
| theCore | the only spam is in the footers of the empty emails | 12:07 |
| SteveA | kiko is usually very careful about removing spam from addresses that haven't signed up to the list | 12:08 |
| SteveA | not much we can do about people who sign up and then send non-useful email | 12:08 |
| theCore | there's a lot of people requesting CDs on the list too | 12:11 |
| theCore | some even send their full address and telephone number | 12:12 |
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