[12:25] <LaserJock> man the wiki is a pain
[01:16] <dthacker> Did this get replaced by another page with a list of items that needs to be cleaned? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryCleanup
[01:17] <Burgwork> dthacker: the help stuff moved to help.ubuntu.com/community
[01:19] <dthacker> tnx, continuing to learn.....
[01:26] <Burgwork> no worries
[01:52] <bhuvan> Burgwork: can you approve my recent email to ubuntu-doc mailing list? looks like all emails above 40k needs approval, nice setup
[01:52] <Burgwork> hmm, I don;t have the password, I don;t think
[01:52] <bhuvan> hmm fine. let it wait for mdke and nixternal
[04:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69814 in ubuntu-doc "Long-Term Support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69814
[04:42] <_nixternal> reject that bug someone, for some reason I cannot...he is looking at old docs on doc.ubuntu.com
[06:09] <nixternal> Burgwork: i don't have the password either ;)
[06:21] <bhuvan> nixternal: hope mdke may be able to reset your password
[07:04] <nixternal> i think it is a "main" list password, because my password works fine, just not for admin stuff
[07:04] <bhuvan> ok
[07:05] <Burgwork> nixternal: there is a moderator and an admin password
[07:05] <nixternal> of which i have neither ;)
[07:19] <nixternal> what is the status of doc.ubuntu.com?
[07:20] <nixternal> does that get updated anymore?
[07:24] <nixternal> anyone available to discuss the ubuntuguide.org email on the list?  it seems they want their guide to be in the official docs..
[07:25] <nixternal> i have 2 problems with that right now...1) they want to remain seperated, and 2) they preach automatix and easyubuntu
[07:26] <nixternal> they do however, have some decent information, just that a majority of it is from the universe repos, which it seems official docs like to express the main, unless otherwise needed
[08:05] <Burgundavia> oh, exciting
[08:05] <Burgundavia> ubuntguide.org wants to become "official
[08:05] <Burgundavia> mdke_: you around?
[08:07] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: yeah, I think that's kinda interesting
[08:07] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: they also want to retain complete control it sounds like
[08:07] <Burgundavia> yes, which I don't like
[08:07] <Burgundavia> my position would be hardline: merge or nothing
[08:08] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, yes, but you're an evil SOB
[08:08] <Burgundavia> no, no I am not
[08:09] <Madpilot> BTW, I gave your book to Olivia today
[08:09] <Burgundavia> thanks
[08:09] <Burgundavia> I didn't get home from work until 10pm, so
[08:09] <Burgundavia> oh, geez. ubuntuguide.org has become worse
[08:10] <nixternal> im with Burgundavia on that though..although it couldn't be a complete merge, since they like automatix and what not
[08:10] <Burgundavia> well, part and parcel of the merge would be they would merge into the wiki
[08:10] <Burgundavia> and then we could do what we wanted
[08:11] <nixternal> yup
[08:11] <nixternal> pick and choose, as they do have some good info for sure, that i think could definitely liven up the desktop guides a bit
[08:12] <Burgundavia> yes, there is a place for a single page guide
[08:13] <Burgundavia> we could create a OneGiantPage as a test
[08:13] <Burgundavia> then tell the ubuntguide.org people to redirect to that page
[08:13] <nixternal> heh
[08:13] <nixternal> good luck...because ubuntuguide.org also hosts other distro guides as well
[08:14] <Burgundavia> I am certain mdke_ will be far more diplomatic than me
[08:14] <nixternal> well, of lately, i have seen that aggressive side a little more
[08:14] <Burgundavia> work has been bringing it out in me
[08:15] <nixternal> hah, im actually talking about mdke_ on that one, you egotistical ... ;)
[08:15] <nixternal> hehe
[08:15] <Burgundavia> oh, rightr
[08:15] <Burgundavia> there is of course, this issue
[08:15] <Burgundavia> we do need more people
[08:15] <Burgundavia> we just need them to see the light
[08:16] <Madpilot> "we just need them to see the light"... does that mean, "We just need to light them on fire"? :P
[08:16] <nixternal> haha
[08:16] <nixternal> no, it is ubuntu or the highway!
[08:17] <Burgundavia> no, no, far from that
[08:17] <Burgundavia> although that might be fun
[08:17] <nixternal> well, during our last loco meeting here, we had a tech writer that is interested in helping out, if he can find the time
[08:17] <Burgundavia> we almost got ubuntuguide.org
[08:55] <mdke_> hmm?
[08:56] <mdke_> Burgundavia: hi
[08:57] <Burgundavia> mdke_: see the posting?
[08:57] <mdke_> not yet
[08:59] <mdke_> Burgundavia: is your pgp key on a keyserver, I can't seem to find it with enigmail
[09:00] <Burgundavia> should be
[09:00] <Burgundavia> please don't encrypt
[09:00] <Burgundavia> my desktop machine is currently monitor-less
[09:01] <Madpilot> night all
[09:01] <mdke_> can't find nixternal's either
[09:02] <nixternal> mine is definitely out there on the intraweb
[09:03] <mdke_> nixternal: does it have your @ubuntu.com address in it?
[09:03] <nixternal> it has like 4 addresses, and yes that is one of them
[09:04] <mdke_> well, enigmail doesn't find it. Oh well
[09:04] <Burgundavia> no, no it doesn't
[09:07] <nixternal> 2e2c0124 is my key, i just downloaded it from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net so it is out there
[09:10] <mdke_> nixternal: I don't think we should reject bug 69814, I think we should fix it. What's the problem?
[09:11] <nixternal> doc.ubuntu.com is behind in updates..thats all
[09:11] <nixternal> i didn't know the status behind the site, as i rarely visit it because it has always seemed outdated to me
[09:11] <mdke_> we should definitely fix that. If it's behind, the reason is likely to be that something fails to build
[09:13] <mdke_> hmm. It's failing to update because:
[09:13] <mdke_> svn: Working copy 'trunk/build/kubuntu' is missing or not locked
[09:13] <mdke_> svn: Working copy 'trunk/build/ubuntu' is missing or not locked
[09:14] <mdke_> Burgundavia: ok, I've read the post now
[09:14] <nixternal> is that fixable on my side?
[09:14] <nixternal> nm, that is ont he server
[09:14] <nixternal> just noticed the trunk/
[09:14] <mdke_> nixternal: it's a long term problem we've had. I'm not sure what the answer is.
[09:16] <nixternal> lovely
[09:20] <nixternal> alrighty, did some moderation, im out for the night, see you in a few hours...g'nite
[09:29] <mdke_> ah jono, just in time.
[09:29] <jono> hey
[09:29] <mdke_> good morning
[09:29] <jono> morning
[09:29] <mdke_> someone pointed out that chapter 4 of the book is missing, any idea?
[09:30] <jono> hmmm, I know the old ch4 became an appendix
[09:30] <jono> maybe the new ch4 is not in that file
[09:30] <jono> I will mail debra about it
[09:30] <mdke_> thanks a lot
[09:30] <mdke_> they are uploaded, I'll grab the link
[09:31] <mdke_> bhuvan@ubuntu.com
[09:31] <mdke_> no, not that paste, *smacks computer*
[09:31] <mdke_> https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/teamstuff/book/
[09:33] <jono> np
[09:33] <jono> :)
[10:35] <rob> o.O
[10:35] <pygi> rob: :)