[06:52] <vil> doko: hello there
[06:53] <doko> vil: hi
[06:57] <vil> doko: last time I quit too early, did you have something to discus?
[06:57] <doko> can't remember :)
[06:58] <doko> vil: when do you apply as a MOTU do upload eclipse and eclipse-pydev yourself Ubuntu? 
[06:58] <vil> I told you about the eclipse / gcj in edgy
[06:59] <vil> do you thing that it is about the time? I am fine with current setup that I do not take any responsibility and do not have to bother with uploading :)
[07:07] <vil> so I guess that I should follow the process described at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers?action=show&redirect=MaintainerCandidates
[07:07] <vil> make a wiki page sumarizing my past work
[07:08] <vil> and finally attend a technical board meeting asking to become a MOTU
[07:13] <vil> do you know, if I have to sign up somewhere? or can I just attend the technical board ask for membership?
[07:24] <doko> vil: sorry, had a phone call, yes, in practice, that will work; you could join #ubuntu-motu as well and ask maybe dholbach
[07:26] <vil> ok thanks, will do that later today
[07:28] <vil> I wanted to talk a bit about that eclipse / gij issue on fresh Edgy. would you have a few minutes for it?
[07:29] <doko> what do you mean with "fresh edgy"?
[07:31] <vil> just installed from a cd
[07:32] <vil> I got  a bugreport on eclipse-pydev saying that when he tries apt-get install eclipse-pydev it succedes, but when he tries to run it, the system lacks jvm
[07:32] <doko> i386, amd64?
[07:33] <vil> this is rather eclipse issue I guess
[07:34] <vil> cannot say
[07:35] <doko> vil: try to install java-gcj-compat?
[07:35] <vil> and the above happens because the system from the cd contains gij-4.1,  which provides java-runtim2, so eclipse does not install java-gcj-compat
[07:36] <vil> right, if you install java-gcj-compat, everything is ok
[07:36] <vil> but the bug is that it does not get installed as dependency for eclipse
[07:37] <doko> ok, maybe we should adjust the script eclipse.sh to check for that. 
[07:37] <doko> we dropped java-gcj-compat from the CD to save 8MB
[07:37] <vil> however, removing java-runtime2 (or 1) from deps would couse that java-gcj-compat would be installed even if you had sun java installed
[07:40] <doko> yes, I don't have a good plan yet ...
[07:41] <vil> so shall I write a new bug on eclipse? I mean, you know about it already, so is there a reason?
[07:42] <doko> no, propose a sane fix ;-P
[07:43] <doko> anyway, I have to leave, will be back late at night
[07:46] <vil> bye
[08:50] <matt19wales> hello
[08:50] <matt19wales> anyone there?
[08:50] <matt19wales> hello
[08:52] <vil> hello
[08:55] <matt19wales> how are u?
[08:55] <vil> fine :)
[08:55] <vil> thanks
[08:55] <matt19wales> are u good at java programming?
[08:55] <vil> and u?
[08:55] <vil> just medium
[08:55] <matt19wales> i'm ok, getting a bit stressed out to be honest
[08:56] <matt19wales> fed up of this java! doing it for uni, we're on algorithm's at the moment
[08:58] <vil> how can I help you
[08:58] <matt19wales> well at the moment we are studying runtime's of different algorithms
[08:59] <matt19wales> and i've managed to write the 1 algorithm called insertion sort
[08:59] <matt19wales> and works OK :) but i have no idea where to start on the next algorithm, counting sort
[09:00] <matt19wales> http://users.cs.cf.ac.uk/C.L.Mumford/tristan/CountPage.html
[09:00] <matt19wales> there is the pseudocode
[09:03] <vil> well, this forum is more about packaging java progs for debian. maybe try ##java forum
[09:04] <matt19wales> ah ok
[09:04] <matt19wales> thanks anyway :)
[09:04] <vil> you can find some more info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_sort
[09:05] <matt19wales> yeah been on there! pretty much looking for a complete solution. we're allowed to pull it straight off the web cos its mostly concentrated on measuring runtime ect
[09:07] <matt19wales> cant find it anywhere online
[09:09] <vil> at wiki, there is a link to c++ implementation, which could be quite close to java.
[09:10] <matt19wales> never used c++ ever before
[09:10] <matt19wales> will have to try and work from the pseudocode i think if i cant get anyhelp from the java forum later
[09:11] <vil> good luck ;)
[09:15] <matt19wales> thanks