| === geser [n=michael@dialin108201.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-206-191-56-75.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| Amaranth | imbrandon: find out who your roommate in mountain view is? :) | 12:25 |
|---|---|---|
| imbrandon | john trapsell , whomever that is | 12:25 |
| imbrandon | i guess a KDE developer | 12:25 |
| LaserJock | heh | 12:26 |
| Amaranth | hrm | 12:26 |
| === Amaranth won't be there until 11pm sunday night | ||
| === schultmc [n=schultmc@216-54-159-97.static.twtelecom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === LaserJock was imaging going to dinner, "OK, KDE on the left, Gnome on the right, XFCE gets to eat outside" | ||
| Amaranth | so i need to find somewhere to crash before i show up :) | 12:26 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock, ahahah | 12:27 |
| crimsun | eh? Who's actually going that works on Xfce? | 12:27 |
| LaserJock | jani | 12:27 |
| crimsun | ah | 12:27 |
| crimsun | the lone trooper | 12:27 |
| Amaranth | John Tapsell? | 12:27 |
| imbrandon | Amaranth, yea thats right | 12:27 |
| imbrandon | my mistake | 12:27 |
| Amaranth | google told me :P | 12:27 |
| LaserJock | thank goodness for google | 12:28 |
| Amaranth | i googled trapsell and it offered tapsell as a spelling suggestion | 12:28 |
| LaserJock | in more ways then one | 12:28 |
| imbrandon | heh | 12:28 |
| LaserJock | it was really funny at Ubucon | 12:28 |
| LaserJock | somebody was looking for something | 12:28 |
| LaserJock | and somebody ( I think it was an LTSP guy) yelled "Google i" | 12:29 |
| LaserJock | *it | 12:29 |
| imbrandon | hahaha | 12:29 |
| LaserJock | you had to be there | 12:29 |
| poningru | rofl I dont think you can do that at mv | 12:29 |
| crimsun | sure you can | 12:29 |
| LaserJock | the whole left side of the room was google shirts | 12:29 |
| poningru | the lawyers will make you disapear | 12:29 |
| LaserJock | I'm looking forward to the food | 12:30 |
| LaserJock | much better then Paris | 12:30 |
| TheMuso | LaserJock: I'll bet. | 12:30 |
| imbrandon | anyone else see they released wince 6 open source ( shared source lic ) | 12:30 |
| Amaranth | so, how about it, anyone willing to house a bum in their hotel room? :) | 12:30 |
| LaserJock | sorry Amaranth, I gave up mine | 12:30 |
| imbrandon | Amaranth, you dont have a room ? | 12:31 |
| LaserJock | I put in a good word for you and ajmitch though | 12:31 |
| Amaranth | nope | 12:31 |
| Amaranth | i only have a ticket because someone else was nice enough to buy it | 12:31 |
| Amaranth | i figure i'll sort the rest out eventually :P | 12:31 |
| Amaranth | (plane ticket, that is) | 12:31 |
| crimsun | Amaranth: are you planning to stay the entire time? | 12:31 |
| Amaranth | yeah | 12:32 |
| imbrandon | heh, i dont mind personaly , but i dont wanna get canonical in a fit | 12:32 |
| imbrandon | as they are footing my bill :) | 12:32 |
| Amaranth | hehe | 12:32 |
| Amaranth | just tell mark i'm a beryl developer ;) | 12:32 |
| LaserJock | haha | 12:32 |
| imbrandon | LOL | 12:33 |
| Amaranth | *cough*seriously*cough* | 12:33 |
| LaserJock | "I bring bling!" | 12:33 |
| Amaranth | :P | 12:33 |
| === bhale takes 30 pages of UI and beats Amaranth over the head with them | ||
| === imbrandon sicks seele on Amaranth | ||
| Amaranth | hey, i stay away from the core stuff :P | 12:33 |
| Amaranth | i'm working on gnome integration | 12:33 |
| Burgwork | I believe beryle-gnome-integration is called compiz | 12:34 |
| Amaranth | hehe | 12:34 |
| poningru | Amaranth: err hold on dude asking couple of friends | 12:34 |
| poningru | who work at mv | 12:35 |
| poningru | err wait maybe I should ask this first | 12:36 |
| poningru | whats your attitude toward mofo? | 12:36 |
| === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["#u-fr] | ||
| Amaranth | poningru: haha | 12:36 |
| Amaranth | poningru: i'd love to visit? :P | 12:37 |
| imbrandon | mofo ? | 12:37 |
| Amaranth | mozilla foundation | 12:37 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 12:37 |
| crimsun | does ajmitch have housing for UDS, too? | 12:41 |
| imbrandon | not 100% sure, last i heard i think whiprush had offered something | 12:42 |
| imbrandon | i dont mind helping ajmitch or Amaranth as i said i just dont want anyone to get their panties in a bunch , you know what i mean | 12:43 |
| imbrandon | ( as in a 3rd person in the room ) | 12:43 |
| === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #ubuntu-motu ["clear"] | ||
| bhale | i figured out in boston that i am too old to sleep on the floor | 12:44 |
| Amaranth | i'm not :P | 12:46 |
| iXce | :p | 12:48 |
| Amaranth | i think i'm going to have to try to borrow money from someone to get my own room for the first night | 12:58 |
| iXce | ow.. | 12:58 |
| === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-000-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| Amaranth | or not eat for a day or two :P | 01:06 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: I do - if I didn't by now, i'd be in trouble | 01:06 |
| crimsun | w/ whiprush et al.? | 01:07 |
| iXce | Amaranth : you're in trouble :p | 01:07 |
| ajmitch | yes | 01:07 |
| crimsun | excellent | 01:07 |
| ajmitch | only option, really :) | 01:07 |
| Amaranth | i've got a fallback | 01:10 |
| Amaranth | but it'll hurt very badly | 01:10 |
| === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| ajmitch | Amaranth: how badly? | 01:10 |
| imbrandon | TheMuso, rockin mpd + icecast was exactly what i wanted, got it working now | 01:10 |
| Amaranth | massive dept badly | 01:11 |
| ajmitch | Amaranth: under a bridge, or in an office? | 01:11 |
| TheMuso | imbrandon: Cool. | 01:11 |
| Amaranth | wha? | 01:11 |
| imbrandon | http://federation.imbrandon.com:8000/mpd.ogg.m3u if anyone cares to listen to my taste of music | 01:14 |
| imbrandon | now that its working thanks to TheMuso :) | 01:14 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: I just got the email you sent yesterday nominating the known world | 01:17 |
| imbrandon | hahaha | 01:17 |
| imbrandon | kinda late | 01:17 |
| imbrandon | did you get the one after with a smaller list ? | 01:18 |
| ajmitch | I got that one first | 01:18 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 01:18 |
| ajmitch | like several hours ago :) | 01:18 |
| === ajmitch blames the ISP's mail servers | ||
| imbrandon | heh | 01:19 |
| TheMuso | imbrandon: Is that on one of your own boxes? | 01:21 |
| imbrandon | yea | 01:21 |
| imbrandon | its here at the house | 01:21 |
| LaserJock | phew | 01:21 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | I just got done "recabling" our lab for the new guy | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | he wondered why we don't have any Windows machines in our lab | 01:22 |
| luisbg | LaserJock, what did you reply? | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | "cause we don't need them" | 01:23 |
| imbrandon | lol | 01:23 |
| LaserJock | I managed to dig up an old Windows 2k box for him | 01:23 |
| imbrandon | haha you should have gave him a skined kde :) | 01:23 |
| LaserJock | now I've got 2 Linux boxen, an iMac, a Windows 2k box, 2 printers, and UPS sitting more-or-less on 1 desk | 01:24 |
| LaserJock | s/sitting/sitting on/ | 01:24 |
| LaserJock | nvm | 01:24 |
| === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | the kvm was a little cluttered | 01:26 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: and a chemist needs all this? | 01:26 |
| LaserJock | and I had to rip out a NIC to put in the Windows box | 01:26 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: we inherited a theoretician's lab | 01:26 |
| ajmitch | with all their junk? | 01:27 |
| LaserJock | well, we inherited their junk (and a grad student) but not lab/office space :( | 01:27 |
| LaserJock | but yeah, we don't really even need computers much | 01:29 |
| Burgwork | imbrandon: actually, I think GNOME actually looks closer to Windows, if you change the default menu structure and panels | 01:29 |
| LaserJock | well, it's not so much the "look" but the applications | 01:30 |
| imbrandon | Burgwork, http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/screenshots/snapshot1.png | 01:30 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 01:30 |
| imbrandon | thats from my luna theme a few months ago | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | "can you run Windows software on it?" is usually what I get | 01:30 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock, i have IE6 Photoshop and iTunes all in that screenshot | 01:31 |
| imbrandon | :) | 01:31 |
| Burgwork | imbrandon: it is isn't quite right. the GNOME screenshots I have seen are actually much closer | 01:31 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: there's a special circle of hell reserved for people like you | 01:31 |
| LaserJock | well, MS Office is the killer app for use unfortunately | 01:31 |
| Burgwork | now, of course, this is just a giant boobie prize | 01:31 |
| === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| imbrandon | Burgwork, well its peiced from screenshots so it should be exact | 01:32 |
| imbrandon | eg ss i took from a winbox | 01:32 |
| imbrandon | woot i have a whole 3 listeners to my stream lol | 01:33 |
| === ajmitch will avoid subscribing | ||
| imbrandon | heh i'm just ahppy i got it working | 01:34 |
| === LaserJock thinks "stream of what?" :/ | ||
| === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| imbrandon | 3 doors down is playing atm LaserJock , just random music i'm playing | 01:34 |
| imbrandon | http://federation.imbrandon.com:8000/mpd.ogg.m3u | 01:34 |
| LaserJock | so I can listen to what you're listening? | 01:35 |
| imbrandon | yea | 01:35 |
| LaserJock | this must be some sick core-dev brainwashing campaign | 01:35 |
| crimsun | wha, no gangsta rap? | 01:35 |
| imbrandon | lol no | 01:36 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: does he have shakira? :) | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: I might listen if he did | 01:36 |
| TheMuso | So imbrandon, are you just tuning into your own icecast server to listen to your music at the same time? | 01:36 |
| imbrandon | haha i do | 01:36 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock, ^ | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | oh geeze | 01:36 |
| imbrandon | TheMuso, yea i have icecast and mpd running on one computer and pympd on another | 01:37 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 01:37 |
| TheMuso | I think there's a KDE client. | 01:37 |
| TheMuso | Is that track improperly tagged or something? | 01:37 |
| imbrandon | yea | 01:38 |
| imbrandon | it has no title | 01:38 |
| === imbrandon ques up shakera | ||
| imbrandon | just for LaserJock HAHAHHA | 01:38 |
| TheMuso | shakera sucks. Nuff said. | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | what the heck is this? | 01:39 |
| imbrandon | shakera | 01:39 |
| imbrandon | lol | 01:39 |
| === imbrandon chooses something else | ||
| LaserJock | "Underneath Your Clothes" ? | 01:39 |
| imbrandon | yea | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | that's shakera?!?! | 01:40 |
| imbrandon | Current Song:Shakira - Underneath Your Clothes | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | tbh, I've never even heard or seen her | 01:40 |
| === LaserJock lives under a rock | ||
| imbrandon | heh | 01:40 |
| === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| ajmitch | LaserJock: neither have I, but I've heard it's crap music :) | 01:40 |
| ajmitch | hey bmonty | 01:41 |
| bmonty | hi ajmitch | 01:41 |
| TheMuso | ajmitch: Hit it on the head. | 01:41 |
| TheMuso | SHe can't even sing. | 01:41 |
| LaserJock | it's like some kinda Country/Pop something | 01:41 |
| imbrandon | its not terrible is LaserJock | 01:41 |
| imbrandon | latin pop | 01:41 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: ugh | 01:41 |
| ajmitch | burn it all | 01:41 |
| imbrandon | ok back to the good stuff | 01:42 |
| TheMuso | gah. Speakup is being screwy again | 01:42 |
| imbrandon | i could always put on some bach | 01:43 |
| imbrandon | :) | 01:43 |
| === TheMuso would do something similar to Imbrandon, but doesn't have enough upstream bandwidth to support more than a few listeners, if that. | ||
| imbrandon | heh i dont have much, but i only have 2 or 3 listners soo | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | 8dn/1up | 01:45 |
| TheMuso | If dreamhost had icecast support, well that would be another story. | 01:47 |
| LaserJock | :( | 01:47 |
| LaserJock | something happened, I can't hear it anymore | 01:47 |
| imbrandon | you might have droped, relick the link | 01:48 |
| imbrandon | re-click | 01:48 |
| bmonty | I have some recordings of finger nails on chalk boards and my son screaming if you guys are interested :) | 01:48 |
| imbrandon | lol | 01:48 |
| TheMuso | heh no thanks. | 01:48 |
| ajmitch | bmonty: I'll pass on that thanks | 01:49 |
| === imbrandon has kiss playing now, and something he forgot queud up | ||
| === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | I don't know what to use to listen to it | 01:49 |
| imbrandon | queued* | 01:49 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock, i'm using amarok to listen | 01:49 |
| LaserJock | oh, well totem seems to be working ok | 01:49 |
| TheMuso | LaserJock: What were you using? | 01:49 |
| imbrandon | most anything that will play ogg will | 01:49 |
| imbrandon | do the titles of the songs get streamed too ? | 01:50 |
| TheMuso | Yes. | 01:50 |
| imbrandon | ahh cool | 01:50 |
| bmonty | link? | 01:50 |
| imbrandon | http://federation.imbrandon.com:8000/mpd.ogg.m3u | 01:50 |
| LaserJock | TheMuso: rhythmbox | 01:51 |
| bmonty | yuk | 01:51 |
| TheMuso | LaserJock: Right. | 01:51 |
| === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| imbrandon | bmonty, no like? | 01:52 |
| imbrandon | heh this is the first "slower" song i've played | 01:52 |
| bmonty | nope, I'm definately not a lionel richie fan | 01:52 |
| TheMuso | Rhythmbox doesn't have gappless playback yet does it. | 01:53 |
| TheMuso | I know mpd does. | 01:53 |
| TheMuso | WHich was another thing that got me hooked on it. | 01:53 |
| imbrandon | yea if i could get dreamhost streaming going i would stream full time | 01:55 |
| imbrandon | just put my collection on random | 01:55 |
| bmonty | good choice | 01:56 |
| TheMuso | Would help get through some of that bandwidth. | 01:56 |
| imbrandon | does mpd pick up new songs if you add them to the directory ? | 01:56 |
| TheMuso | No, you have to update the db and the playlist. | 01:56 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 01:56 |
| imbrandon | that kinda sucks | 01:56 |
| TheMuso | Doesn't bother me. | 01:56 |
| TheMuso | You could set up a cron job to do it though. :) | 01:57 |
| TheMuso | You'd have to make sure you don't add duplicate entries however. | 01:57 |
| === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| imbrandon | yea | 01:57 |
| imbrandon | my collection is pretty scattered | 01:58 |
| TheMuso | Heh right. | 01:58 |
| imbrandon | i need to clean it up | 01:58 |
| imbrandon | i have every thing from bach to nelly | 01:58 |
| === TheMuso is in the middle of re-ripping everything, to ensure directory structure consistancy, and to put it all in FLAC. | ||
| TheMuso | Nelly? eeeew | 01:59 |
| imbrandon | heh | 01:59 |
| freeflying | imbrandon: hi | 02:02 |
| === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| imbrandon | heya freeflying | 02:03 |
| imbrandon | i think this is my anthem | 02:04 |
| imbrandon | :) | 02:04 |
| zakame | hi all | 02:08 |
| zakame | does anyone have a working hibernate in kubuntu edgy? | 02:08 |
| imbrandon | foood, bbiab | 02:11 |
| === freeflying_ [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| Amaranth | So if I was staying a night at the hotel Canonical setup, anyone know how to get there from the airport? | 02:34 |
| Amaranth | without driving or taking a cab the whole way, if possible | 02:35 |
| ajmitch | caltrain to sunnyvale, taxi from the train station? | 02:35 |
| Amaranth | ah | 02:35 |
| ajmitch | what airport? | 02:36 |
| Amaranth | SFO | 02:36 |
| Amaranth | that's the wild palms in sunnyvale then? | 02:37 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 02:37 |
| Amaranth | 8 miles away from google | 02:39 |
| ajmitch | yep | 02:39 |
| === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === _nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === micah_c [n=micah@adsl-69-236-109-158.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === zul [n=bob@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| imbrandon | yea caltrain looks like the way to go, much cheaper than a shuttle | 03:28 |
| imbrandon | like 10x less it looks like | 03:28 |
| === Lure [n=lure@71.16.75.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| zul | do you have to book the shuttle online or couldnt you do it at the airport | 03:30 |
| === LaserJock will be cruising around in his minivan | ||
| zul | ooh come and pick me up then ;) | 03:30 |
| LaserJock | or maybe I can get my wife's cousin to drop me off | 03:30 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock, you wont be there the 4th though right ? | 03:30 |
| imbrandon | heh | 03:31 |
| LaserJock | is that Saturday? | 03:31 |
| imbrandon | zul, i guess at the airport, i think i'm gonna take a train ride | 03:31 |
| imbrandon | friday | 03:31 |
| imbrandon | err | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | saturday | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | yea | 03:32 |
| LaserJock | I was going to say | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | heh | 03:33 |
| === Lure_ [n=lure@71.16.75.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | I'll be in Mt. View on Saturday night | 03:37 |
| LaserJock | I'm going to spend Saturday with my Grandparents in Sacramento | 03:37 |
| LaserJock | I haven't seen my grandpa since he got diagnosed with cancer | 03:38 |
| zul | thats nice | 03:38 |
| zul | except the cancer bit | 03:38 |
| imbrandon | cool | 03:39 |
| imbrandon | err well cept for grandpa | 03:39 |
| imbrandon | yea | 03:39 |
| imbrandon | :) | 03:39 |
| === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | yeah, it's been interesting | 03:43 |
| LaserJock | he seems to be doing well with the chemo | 03:43 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: so you won't be there to pick me up at the airport on saturday morning? :) | 03:50 |
| ajmitch | well, lunchtime | 03:50 |
| imbrandon | heh | 03:50 |
| ajmitch | how disappointing ;) | 03:50 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, what time do you get there ? | 03:51 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: when do you get in? | 03:51 |
| _nixternal | ajmitch: please don't talk about food | 03:51 |
| imbrandon | 1030am | 03:51 |
| _nixternal | im sittin' in class and my gut is rumbling | 03:51 |
| zul | he lj shuttleservice | 03:51 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: 11:15 to SFO | 03:51 |
| LaserJock | zul: heh, no thanks | 03:51 |
| imbrandon | i think elk is on that flight | 03:51 |
| ajmitch | nah | 03:51 |
| ajmitch | she's on an earlier flight | 03:51 |
| ajmitch | mpt & infinity are on the flight I'm on | 03:51 |
| imbrandon | she arrives about that time | 03:51 |
| ajmitch | she gets in at 9:40 or so | 03:52 |
| zul | damn it am i the only one going to sjc | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | I'm from Montana, the bay area is a nightmare to drive around | 03:52 |
| imbrandon | ahh thats right | 03:52 |
| imbrandon | <elkbuntu> 10:59:22 Terminal Not Available 10:05 | 03:53 |
| imbrandon | so we're all within a few minutes | 03:53 |
| imbrandon | her at 10 me at 1030 and yall at 1115 | 03:53 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 03:54 |
| imbrandon | zul, probably | 03:54 |
| imbrandon | heh | 03:54 |
| imbrandon | i was thinking about taking caltrain after looking at the map | 03:54 |
| imbrandon | from the airport to sunnyvale | 03:55 |
| zul | the hotel apparently does have wireless | 03:55 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: you could just wait around the airport for awhile for us :) | 03:55 |
| imbrandon | gah brb phone | 03:55 |
| zakame | hmm which packages control hibernate? acpi-support? | 03:55 |
| LaserJock | I can't believe you guys are stuck in sunnyvale | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | I thought Paris was bad | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | but at least we were staying in the same city | 03:56 |
| ajmitch | heh | 03:56 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, i had planned on it if you wanted , it wont be a long wait ( probably take me that long to get my luggage ) | 03:56 |
| imbrandon | only 45 min | 03:56 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: it'll take awhile for me, since I've got to go through customs | 03:56 |
| ajmitch | which tends to not be too long | 03:57 |
| imbrandon | ahh thats right, but thats no biggie really | 03:57 |
| ajmitch | at least I've been to SFO before :) | 03:57 |
| zul | yeah just dont bring any vegemite | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | yucky yucky | 03:57 |
| imbrandon | i'll probably try to find a hotspot and check my mail or something while i wait | 03:57 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: you know how far the caltrain station is from the airport? | 03:57 |
| imbrandon | it says its AT the airport | 03:57 |
| ajmitch | hm, the map said otherwise, but I think it is at the airport | 03:58 |
| imbrandon | and then 2.3 miles from the hotel | 03:58 |
| _nixternal | i can have sam pick everyone up, but no looking at my gf! | 03:58 |
| imbrandon | in sunnyvale | 03:58 |
| ajmitch | seems like there's wireless at the airport, but you have to pay | 03:59 |
| imbrandon | http://www.caltrain.com/caltrain_stations.html | 03:59 |
| ajmitch | _nixternal: haha | 03:59 |
| imbrandon | first one in zone 2 | 03:59 |
| imbrandon | is the airport | 03:59 |
| imbrandon | millbrae | 03:59 |
| ajmitch | yeah, see the map for it | 03:59 |
| _nixternal | ya, if i get my walking papers to miss school next week, I will be there Friday..I have it planned to just stay with here for a couple of reasons, but it won't cost me a dime..plus she works at Google ;) | 04:00 |
| imbrandon | ahh yea it seems to be off a bit, but i bet the map is wrong | 04:00 |
| ajmitch | I hope so | 04:00 |
| _nixternal | what color is meeting going to be in? | 04:00 |
| _nixternal | or the uds rather | 04:00 |
| ajmitch | "At Millbrae station pick up the free shuttle bus for transfer to the airport." | 04:00 |
| imbrandon | no idea _nixternal | 04:01 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, ahhh probably not from the airport TO the station | 04:01 |
| _nixternal | red and blue are the coolest, green is marketing and sales (go figure), i yellow is off limits if i remember correctly | 04:01 |
| imbrandon | hrm | 04:01 |
| LaserJock | they better have the stupid onramp for 101 fixed, last time I spent 30 min going around in circles trying to figure out how to get from Highway 580 onto 101 | 04:02 |
| _nixternal | there also used to be a "Tech Corridor" Shuttle there as well..don't know if it is still there though | 04:02 |
| ajmitch | "To access San Francisco International Airport, BART is operating a train about every 15 minutes between the Millbrae station and SFO. All passengers must purchase a ticket before boarding." | 04:03 |
| ajmitch | http://www.caltrain.com/faqs.html | 04:03 |
| _nixternal | heh, be careful on BART | 04:03 |
| zul | how come? | 04:04 |
| _nixternal | there is a whole nother meaning to "Bay Area" rapid transit | 04:04 |
| ajmitch | I'm sure if a group of us travel from the airport it won't be too bad | 04:04 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, yea | 04:04 |
| _nixternal | depending on the locale, but going southwest towards google shall be fine, you just don't want to head towards oakland on it | 04:04 |
| imbrandon | i'll just stick arround and wait for yall | 04:04 |
| imbrandon | and see if elkbuntu wants too also ( ping ? ) | 04:05 |
| imbrandon | heh someone make a big ubuntu sign so we can all see where to meetup lol | 04:05 |
| ajmitch | she may not want to wait that long | 04:05 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, true | 04:05 |
| ajmitch | depends which terminal we meet in, too | 04:05 |
| imbrandon | not only that she will probably get out of customs about the time i arrive | 04:06 |
| imbrandon | becosue its only 30 minutes diffrence | 04:06 |
| ajmitch | true | 04:06 |
| _nixternal | 30 minutes in customs? that would be super duper fast | 04:07 |
| imbrandon | hrm i wonder what terminal i'm comming in on | 04:07 |
| _nixternal | i spent an hour coming from canada last month, without 1 shoe | 04:07 |
| _nixternal | haha | 04:07 |
| zul | canadian customs is nothing | 04:08 |
| _nixternal | it is easier to come across the border with an elephant and a mariacchi band then it is to get through customs | 04:08 |
| _nixternal | canadian customs was through the metal detector, and the plain | 04:08 |
| _nixternal | plane as well | 04:08 |
| _nixternal | but chicago o'hare, coming from the plane, back through customs, was over an hour..they took my 1 shoe for testing | 04:08 |
| _nixternal | no place to sit..i was mad as all heck | 04:09 |
| zul | _nixternal, next time just say aboot and eh and it will go quicker | 04:09 |
| _nixternal | lol | 04:09 |
| _nixternal | they would have marked me a terrorist...since i have a common name im on their "check" list | 04:10 |
| _nixternal | so is my dad | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | the 1 time I've been to the US, I had no problems | 04:10 |
| zul | yeah you dont want the rcmp after you | 04:10 |
| === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| _nixternal | ajmitch: well, we are at level orange..gahahahaha i couldn't even finish that joke | 04:10 |
| zul | heh last time i was in the us was at niagra falls | 04:10 |
| _nixternal | gahah..i got a lil tanked with a mounty..they are cool | 04:11 |
| zul | not if your last name is arar hah | 04:11 |
| _nixternal | that was in Banf, Alberta | 04:11 |
| _nixternal | hahaa | 04:11 |
| LaserJock | at UDS-Paris, the CDG cattle chute was the worst part | 04:13 |
| imbrandon | ? | 04:14 |
| imbrandon | 12.8 C in SF saturday | 04:14 |
| ajmitch | not too bad | 04:14 |
| ajmitch | 17.5C in dunedin at the moment | 04:14 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: at CDG they just put you in a big funnel for security | 04:14 |
| imbrandon | heh | 04:15 |
| zul | heh low of -7C in ottawa on saturday im leaving at the right time | 04:15 |
| imbrandon | its a whole 1C right now here | 04:15 |
| _nixternal | LaserJock: terminal 2a? | 04:21 |
| LaserJock | _nixternal: ? | 04:22 |
| _nixternal | coming from the terminal into that funnel | 04:22 |
| _nixternal | i sat my laptop bag down and forgot it | 04:22 |
| ajmitch | ouch | 04:22 |
| _nixternal | not really..it was the companies ;) | 04:22 |
| ajmitch | I've got a backpack for my laptop | 04:23 |
| ajmitch | much easier to carry round airports for hours on end | 04:23 |
| imbrandon | yea i was thinking about a backpack | 04:23 |
| imbrandon | for my lappy | 04:23 |
| _nixternal | i was on my way to belgium..where the company Real was out of..they bought our company (TAVA) in 2000 | 04:23 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, look like i get in SF in terminal 1, you know what one you all got ? | 04:23 |
| ajmitch | international terminal, I think it's 3 | 04:24 |
| _nixternal | they will be in the international | 04:24 |
| _nixternal | way far away from 1 | 04:24 |
| imbrandon | lol | 04:24 |
| ajmitch | it's not that far | 04:24 |
| _nixternal | oh, its a good jot | 04:24 |
| imbrandon | ok well since i get there first i'll come to your term | 04:24 |
| _nixternal | imbrandon: it will take you all day to get there...walk 100', smoke break, mt. dew, walk another 100', repeat | 04:25 |
| ajmitch | ok, international terminal != terminal 3 | 04:25 |
| bddebian | haha | 04:25 |
| imbrandon | LOL | 04:25 |
| === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #ubuntu-motu ["clear"] | ||
| _nixternal | imbrandon: if i remember correctly...you have to goto them actually | 04:26 |
| imbrandon | heh thats what i said :) | 04:26 |
| _nixternal | you can drive to the international terminal, walking would stink, but they have the escalator things iirc, like o'hare does | 04:28 |
| elkbuntu | imbrandon, hmm? | 04:28 |
| imbrandon | heya chick | 04:28 |
| imbrandon | fancy waiting for ajmitch and crew with us ?> | 04:28 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: BART station in in the international terminal, if we plan to get that to the caltrain station | 04:28 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, | 04:29 |
| imbrandon | ok | 04:29 |
| elkbuntu | no problemo | 04:29 |
| imbrandon | we could just meet at the BART station then probably would be the easiest | 04:29 |
| ajmitch | hey elkbuntu | 04:29 |
| elkbuntu | how long a wait? | 04:29 |
| ajmitch | yeah, if we get the right one | 04:29 |
| ajmitch | elkbuntu: my flight lands at 11:15 | 04:29 |
| imbrandon | elkbuntu, it will be about 1hours 15 minutes for you | 04:30 |
| ajmitch | so it could be a little while | 04:30 |
| imbrandon | is there more than one BART station ? | 04:30 |
| elkbuntu | imbrandon, i land at 9:42 | 04:30 |
| ajmitch | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_International_Airport_%28BART_station%29 | 04:30 |
| imbrandon | ahh i was thinking you said 1005 | 04:30 |
| elkbuntu | but hour and a half aint bad | 04:30 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: looks like there's 1 station on 2 levels, or something silly | 04:31 |
| imbrandon | ahh /me looks | 04:31 |
| ajmitch | ah, 2 entrances to it, according to wikipedia | 04:31 |
| ajmitch | http://www.bart.gov/guide/airport/sfo.asp <-- confusing | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | airtrain station is free, to the BART station :) | 04:32 |
| LaserJock | well, San Fran area is a bit confusing | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | so we meet at BART station, I guess | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | I'll see if I can find mpt & infinity as well | 04:33 |
| imbrandon | There are two entrances and exits one on level 3, adjacent to the grand foyer off the north side of the International Terminal; and the other is a level up at the Garage G/BART AirTrain station. | 04:33 |
| imbrandon | from the wiki | 04:33 |
| imbrandon | so i guess level 3 at the BART station as we likely wont have a reason to be in the garage | 04:34 |
| imbrandon | elkbuntu, ajmitch ^ | 04:35 |
| imbrandon | oh wow i just realized i'll be surrounded by AU/NZ accents | 04:35 |
| elkbuntu | lol | 04:35 |
| === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-128-92-140.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| ajmitch | imbrandon: that's fine :) | 04:37 |
| imbrandon | kk /me wrote it on his itenerary so he dosent forget | 04:37 |
| ajmitch | I'll be getting off caltrain at MV | 04:40 |
| ajmitch | & probably getting a taxi to the hotel I'm at | 04:40 |
| imbrandon | yea , me and elk will go onto sunnyvale | 04:41 |
| imbrandon | i looked the trainstaion from there to the hotel is 2 miles ( too far to walk with luggage ) | 04:41 |
| ajmitch | & any others going there | 04:41 |
| imbrandon | so likely a cab | 04:41 |
| LaserJock | yikes | 04:41 |
| LaserJock | I'm sorry I probably won't be over there in time | 04:42 |
| LaserJock | I could shuttle you guys to the hotel | 04:42 |
| LaserJock | although I'd probably get lost anyway | 04:42 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 04:42 |
| ajmitch | yeah, I haven't checked distance for the hotel I'm at | 04:43 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: are you in Mt. View? | 04:43 |
| bddebian | I hate you all :-) | 04:43 |
| ajmitch | 1.3 mi (about 2 mins) | 04:44 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: yeah, but it's a little distance from the train station | 04:44 |
| ajmitch | I could probably walk it in a few minutes, the suitcase has wheels | 04:44 |
| ajmitch | basically just 1 mile down a street | 04:45 |
| imbrandon | yea | 04:45 |
| imbrandon | mine does too ( wheels ) but i dunno, guess i'll see when i get there , likely will cab it though | 04:45 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I wonder how easy it'll be to get a cab | 04:51 |
| LaserJock | I'd guess around a train station there'd be something | 04:51 |
| ajmitch | should be simple | 04:51 |
| _MMA_ | Anyone here use Eyas reservations? | 04:52 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: so when will you grace us with your presence? | 04:52 |
| imbrandon | Eyas as in the company canonical recomended ? | 04:53 |
| _MMA_ | Yea. | 04:53 |
| imbrandon | yea i did | 04:53 |
| _MMA_ | Did they mess up your name? | 04:53 |
| imbrandon | no | 04:53 |
| _MMA_ | they tacked on "mr" to my 1st name. | 04:53 |
| LaserJock | well, I'll be at Google Sunday morning | 04:53 |
| LaserJock | _MMA_: that's normal | 04:53 |
| imbrandon | _MMA_, yea that means your a male :) its normal | 04:54 |
| _MMA_ | Wont the airport hastel me? | 04:54 |
| _MMA_ | hassel | 04:54 |
| Burgwork | nope | 04:54 |
| imbrandon | no | 04:54 |
| Burgwork | unless you are not, in fact, male | 04:54 |
| LaserJock | _MMA_: I had to email them asking about it too :-) | 04:54 |
| _MMA_ | Only in my dreams. | 04:54 |
| imbrandon | heh i dont wanna know | 04:54 |
| _MMA_ | Ahh... Ok. | 04:55 |
| _MMA_ | :) | 04:55 |
| _MMA_ | joejaxx and I had the same issue. | 04:55 |
| joejaxx | the problem with me is | 04:55 |
| joejaxx | i am leaving from newark library international airport | 04:55 |
| joejaxx | == chaos city | 04:56 |
| joejaxx | lol | 04:56 |
| joejaxx | LaserJock: the other thing is i have a numeral on the end of my name | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | joejaxx: cause of your name? | 04:57 |
| ajmitch | _MMA_: I had the same problem for bookings to UDU | 04:57 |
| ajmitch | it's not a problem at all | 04:57 |
| _MMA_ | Good to know. | 04:57 |
| LaserJock | uggg, this wiki work is tedious | 04:58 |
| LaserJock | Full Text searches periodically stop working | 04:58 |
| joejaxx | LaserJock: yes | 04:59 |
| joejaxx | but on the itinerary the numeral is not there | 05:00 |
| ajmitch | hm, it might only be about a 30-40 minute walk from your hotel to where I'm staying | 05:00 |
| ajmitch | I might do that on saturday | 05:00 |
| ajmitch | I was wrong, I thought it was on another street | 05:03 |
| ajmitch | oh well | 05:03 |
| joejaxx | it should be interesting to see everyone in person | 05:03 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, or a 5 min train ride and a 10 minute walk | 05:04 |
| imbrandon | from hotel to hotel | 05:04 |
| === imbrandon just hopes sebas dosent end up with another foot in the face this time | ||
| joejaxx | ? | 05:07 |
| LaserJock | I doubt it | 05:07 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | joejaxx, sebeas ended up in a slight altercation in paris | 05:08 |
| joejaxx | :( | 05:09 |
| imbrandon | joejaxx, http://kwwii.blogspot.com/ | 05:09 |
| imbrandon | kwwii hasent posted since then so its still on top | 05:09 |
| imbrandon | lol | 05:10 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: oh? | 05:10 |
| joejaxx | imbrandon: wow | 05:10 |
| ajmitch | that's sad | 05:10 |
| joejaxx | is Mr. Kuegler, S e v e a s? | 05:12 |
| ajmitch | no | 05:13 |
| joejaxx | i must be mixing people up | 05:13 |
| joejaxx | what is MR. Kuegler's irc name? | 05:13 |
| joejaxx | Mr.* | 05:13 |
| imbrandon | sebeas | 05:14 |
| joejaxx | ah ok | 05:14 |
| joejaxx | v and b | 05:14 |
| imbrandon | dennis k. is Seve^as | 05:14 |
| joejaxx | yes | 05:14 |
| joejaxx | i was confusing the names :\ | 05:15 |
| Burgwork | interesting: distrowatch 7 day stats: 4 Xubuntu 1069 up, 6 Kubuntu 986 up | 05:15 |
| imbrandon | cool | 05:15 |
| imbrandon | xubuntu getting some love | 05:16 |
| Burgwork | yep | 05:16 |
| joejaxx | what kinds of stats are those? | 05:17 |
| Burgwork | hits on the various distrowatch pages, one per IP per day | 05:18 |
| joejaxx | ah ok | 05:18 |
| joejaxx | haha we are still on the waiting list | 05:19 |
| === mayday_jay [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === _MMA1 [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === _MMA1 is now known as _MMA_ | ||
| === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| ajmitch | jdub is smoking something again | 06:00 |
| ajmitch | see his zombies post | 06:00 |
| LaserJock | yeah, it's was kinda rambling | 06:05 |
| joejaxx | lol | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | he to goofy to make a good zombie though | 06:06 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 06:06 |
| ajmitch | he has been known to be serious | 06:06 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 06:07 |
| LaserJock | he's a lot of fun | 06:07 |
| StevenK | w | 06:10 |
| StevenK | Whoops. | 06:10 |
| === rytmisk [n=irc@CPE-155-143-137-122.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-083-102-068-117.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has left #ubuntu-motu [] | ||
| LaserJock | alrighty | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | I trimmed off ~30 redirects | 06:18 |
| imbrandon | nice | 06:24 |
| imbrandon | wow , yea i dont understand jdub's post at all | 06:28 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 06:28 |
| === theCore [n=alex@modemcable128.255-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | ok, I created a MOTU wiki sandbox | 07:21 |
| LaserJock | to put temp/draft pages | 07:21 |
| LaserJock | is anybody alive? | 07:24 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 07:24 |
| giskard | :) but i'm going to school :) | 07:25 |
| giskard | see you later. | 07:25 |
| imbrandon | gnight all | 07:27 |
| === imbrandon heads to bed | ||
| === palski [n=ville@a81-197-22-200.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| crimsun | alive? pssht. | 07:28 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: this early? you sound like you're moving away from your European schedule | 07:28 |
| imbrandon | heh trying too for MTV | 07:28 |
| imbrandon | i'm almost on a normal schedule | 07:28 |
| imbrandon | :) | 07:28 |
| nixternal | that will never happen | 07:29 |
| imbrandon | it will for a week | 07:29 |
| imbrandon | then go back to normal | 07:29 |
| nixternal | he is a european hillbilly | 07:29 |
| imbrandon | :) | 07:29 |
| imbrandon | lol | 07:30 |
| nixternal | well, UDS isn't looking to hot, but if all else fails, at least i get to hang out with rms on saturday | 07:30 |
| imbrandon | as long as he stays away from mtv i'm good | 07:30 |
| crimsun | man, I'm just getting no comments on this dapper-proposed SRU. | 07:31 |
| imbrandon | what one ? | 07:31 |
| nixternal | crimsun: just add some political humor to it, you will get plenty of comments, although probably not the comments you are looking for | 07:31 |
| crimsun | bug 62855 | 07:31 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 62855 in alsa-lib "Stereo line-in capture broken in alsa-lib 1.0.10 for "simple mixer" cards." [High,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62855 | 07:31 |
| === mlpug [n=user@a84-231-238-186.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp45-75.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> brown.freenode.net | ||
| === Marce_ [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Marce_ is now known as Marce | ||
| === \sh_away [n=nsherman@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-68-178.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === grimace [n=grimace@217.147.82.53] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-142-54-172.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Pierre [n=pierre@r163.red.fastwebserver.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === giskard [n=giskard@213.156.52.122] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Kagou [n=Kagou@84.4.197.237] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Riddell [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Kaloz [i=kaloz@openwrt/developer/Kaloz] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === fdoving [n=frode@edge.lnix.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-43-155.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1553.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === palski [n=palski@raastinrauta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | good morning | 09:06 |
| LaserJock | hi dholbach | 09:06 |
| dholbach | hey LaserJock | 09:06 |
| kkubasik | or goodnight if you happen to be a loser like me who's still preping for a physics exam | 09:07 |
| Hobbsee | hey LaserJock | 09:07 |
| LaserJock | physics! | 09:07 |
| LaserJock | hi Hobbsee | 09:07 |
| Hobbsee | hey dholbach | 09:07 |
| dholbach | hey Hobbsee | 09:07 |
| LaserJock | dholbach: I've been working on the MOTU wiki today | 09:07 |
| dholbach | kkubasik: all the best with that exam! | 09:07 |
| kkubasik | dholbach: thanks much! | 09:07 |
| dholbach | LaserJock: I'll have a look at the myriads of wiki mails in a bit ;) | 09:07 |
| LaserJock | it's not so visible right now, but I got rid of a lot of clutter | 09:08 |
| LaserJock | deleted ~30 pages there were just redirects | 09:08 |
| LaserJock | and created MOTU/SandBox | 09:08 |
| LaserJock | as a place for people to put drafts, etc. | 09:08 |
| LaserJock | one thing I've noticed is that it's hard to tell if a page is a work in progress | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | or if it's a finished, stable page | 09:09 |
| Burgundavia | LaserJock: in deleting redirects, you may have caused issues | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | Burgundavia: I checked them | 09:09 |
| kkubasik | agreed, when I was looking for info, it was quite hard to tell if | 09:09 |
| Burgundavia | ok, just checking :) | 09:09 |
| kkubasik | something is done | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | Burgundavia: googled and full text search in the wiki | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | Burgundavia: I either fixed broken links or left redirects that had lots of links to them | 09:10 |
| LaserJock | next step is to clean up existing pages, making sure they are updated, perhaps merging some pages together | 09:10 |
| LaserJock | then restructuring the main MOTU page so info is easier to get to | 09:11 |
| === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Zdra [n=zdra@89.165-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === palski [n=palski@raastinrauta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| ajmitch | hi all | 09:32 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: how goes the SRU battle? :) | 09:34 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: there is no battle | 09:34 |
| dholbach | I wished that some people followed up with there preferences | 09:35 |
| Hobbsee | why is the SRU thing so hard anyway? | 09:35 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: the battle to get a team together quickly, not between MOTUs | 09:36 |
| ajmitch | hello Hobbsee | 09:36 |
| Hobbsee | hi ajmitch | 09:36 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: I said I'd do it Friday, no? | 09:37 |
| dholbach | so everybody could have their chance proposing their favourite MOTU :) | 09:38 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: why not just nominate all of the MOTU's - that seems to be what's happening :P | 09:39 |
| === ajmitch is still waiting to receive mail that's in the archives | ||
| dholbach | that's fine with me, but if 10 people voted for MOTU a, another 8 for MOTU b, ... it'd make things easier | 09:39 |
| dholbach | anyway... don't complain if I pick random people in the end | 09:39 |
| === dholbach pout | ||
| dholbach | s | 09:39 |
| ajmitch | oh I'm not complaining | 09:40 |
| === jinty [n=jinty@137.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| Hobbsee | i got nominated once, so that can be ignored :) | 09:40 |
| dholbach | Hobbsee: everybody did ;) | 09:40 |
| ajmitch | most people did, yes | 09:40 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: excellent! :D | 09:40 |
| === rytmisk [n=irc@CPE-155-143-137-122.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | dholbach: imbrandon's email sort of settled it for me | 09:47 |
| dholbach | LaserJock: hum, I'm not quite sure I understand that post - did imbrandon just pick some people for the team there? | 09:50 |
| LaserJock | yep | 09:50 |
| dholbach | that's not what was discussed before | 09:51 |
| LaserJock | well, I nominated too many it seems | 09:51 |
| LaserJock | so we wanted to shorten the list | 09:51 |
| === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| Hobbsee | and it seems like few will reject it | 09:51 |
| LaserJock | only Hobbsee and StevenK haven't accepted their nomination from that list | 09:52 |
| === Hobbsee likely wont | ||
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: trouble was, neither of us seriously thought about it, before our names got chucked up there. give us each a bit of time :P | 09:52 |
| ajmitch | hey LaserJock | 09:52 |
| === dholbach follows up | ||
| ajmitch | dholbach: -uvf was just for edgy, right? | 09:53 |
| ajmitch | team membership, I mean | 09:53 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: yeah, we should agree on a new team before feisty's UniverseFreeze | 09:54 |
| ajmitch | right | 09:54 |
| === ajmitch removes self | ||
| dholbach | and maybe we get a better voting mechanism together | 09:54 |
| === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === seaLne [n=seaLne@ubuntu/member/sealne] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| ajmitch | yeah | 09:56 |
| LaserJock | dholbach: but I though you were MOTU sabdfl ;-) | 09:57 |
| LaserJock | who need voting :-) | 09:58 |
| === Lutin_ [n=ubuntu@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | *needs | 09:58 |
| ajmitch | voting is good if it actually works | 09:58 |
| Hobbsee | true | 09:59 |
| dholbach | we'll improve on that | 09:59 |
| === dholbach is confident | ||
| LaserJock | well, so far from what I've seen, votes during meetings are the most effective and fast | 09:59 |
| ajmitch | only if you have a short list of names | 10:00 |
| LaserJock | yeah, but I think we could have come to a pretty swift consensus in an IRC meeting | 10:00 |
| LaserJock | organizing the meeting is the difficult part | 10:00 |
| dholbach | decoupling from IRC! :) | 10:01 |
| === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| minghua | I'll reply imbrandon's mail to pick my favorite then, since dholbach wants everybody's opinion | 10:01 |
| dholbach | minghua: pick whoever you want, not just from that list | 10:02 |
| minghua | dholbach: but not much point if I pick someone who hasn't accepted nomination yet, is it? | 10:02 |
| Hobbsee | minghua: sure it is | 10:03 |
| dholbach | minghua: if he/she accepts after your post, that's cool | 10:03 |
| dholbach | as I said: friday night, saturday morning, the team will be ready | 10:03 |
| minghua | let me decline the nomination for me first... | 10:03 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: we're not trying to pressure you, don't worry :) | 10:03 |
| dholbach | chipx86 as lego man: http://flickr.com/photos/chipx86/285519943/ :-) | 10:04 |
| minghua | Hobbsee: err... by "sure it is", do you mean there is a point or not? | 10:07 |
| ajmitch | hehe | 10:07 |
| minghua | Hobbsee: if there is, what is the point? like dholbach said, to make him/her accept? | 10:07 |
| Hobbsee | minghua: oh, sorry. as in, you may as well. just because they havent responded yet doestn necessarily say that they mean know | 10:08 |
| Hobbsee | er, doesnt necessarily say that they're going to decline | 10:08 |
| === Hobbsee kicks her brain | ||
| Hobbsee | minghua: it'd probably help to know if more people supported them | 10:08 |
| minghua | Hobbsee: yeah, makes sense | 10:08 |
| === minghua goes nominate Hobbsee | ||
| Hobbsee | heh | 10:09 |
| Hobbsee | i dont get it, why are people nominating me??? | 10:09 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 10:09 |
| LaserJock | cause you're cute and cuddly like the ponies we so desperately want | 10:10 |
| ajmitch | haha | 10:10 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: because people think you'll do a good job | 10:10 |
| LaserJock | oops, did I say that out loud? :-) | 10:10 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 10:10 |
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| poningru | hahahaha mako in an ad for acm | 10:26 |
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| minghua | Err... is there regular moderating for ubuntu-motu mailing list? | 10:27 |
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === minghua changed the email address to @ubuntu.com one and the mails got hold :-( | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === geser [n=michael@dialin105073.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | did he fall asleep on his keyboard? | 10:36 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 10:36 |
| ajmitch | must have :) | 10:36 |
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === LaserJock chalks it up to a KDE thing ;-) | ||
| ajmitch | haha | 10:37 |
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.107] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === LaserJock finds peace in ignoring joins/parts | ||
| === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-motu.log | ||
| === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Processes/UVF | Edgy frozen: All further uploads need to be for edgy-updates or when feisty opens | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by bhale at Sun Oct 29 11:47:02 2006 | ||
| === Tonio___ [n=tonio@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === schultmc_ [n=schultmc@216-54-159-97.static.twtelecom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] | ||
| Adri2000 | slomo: here? | 06:09 |
| slomo | Adri2000: sure | 06:09 |
| Adri2000 | why liferea is 0ubuntu? it is already in Debian | 06:10 |
| === joejaxx [i=jadaz87@ubuntu/member/joejaxx] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| slomo | Admiral_Chicago: because debian still has a much older version than we habe | 06:11 |
| slomo | Adri2000: ^--- | 06:11 |
| slomo | they're at 1.0.18-1, we're at 1.0.23-0ubuntu1 | 06:11 |
| Admiral_Chicago | slomo: ? | 06:11 |
| slomo | Admiral_Chicago: sorry, xchat's bad nickname autocompletion :/ | 06:11 |
| Admiral_Chicago | slomo: ah it's all good. Konversation is much better | 06:12 |
| Adri2000 | slomo: ok, I saw that | 06:12 |
| === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-003-140.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| Adri2000 | "a new version will be uploaded in the next few days." said the maintainer on 15th october | 06:13 |
| Adri2000 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=393160 | 06:13 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 393160 in liferea "liferea: Package outdated" [Normal,Open] | 06:13 |
| slomo | so what? :) | 06:13 |
| Adri2000 | don't know :p | 06:14 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i just got pwnt on digg. i was about to upload the KDE 4.0 story but got beat out because i took to look hunting down the right link | 06:14 |
| === Lutin_ [n=ubuntu@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === sharms [n=sharms@ubuntu/member/sharms] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === schultmc [n=schultmc@216-54-159-97.static.twtelecom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| luisbg | debian/rules:19: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/patchsys-quilt.mk: Doesn't exit | 06:28 |
| luisbg | exist | 06:28 |
| === Adri2000_ [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| ogra | missing build-dep on quilt i'd guess | 06:34 |
| === vil [n=vladimir@catv-tisnov-86.selfnet.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| luisbg | gonna check | 06:35 |
| === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| luisbg | ogra, you were right, quilt was the one | 06:39 |
| luisbg | ogra, can you make me a small favour? | 06:43 |
| === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | luisbg: I think he's in a meeting, is it something I can help you with? | 06:44 |
| luisbg | LaserJock, check what I did here... | 06:45 |
| === raphink [n=raphink@wormhole.x-echo.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| luisbg | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ardour/+bug/51635 | 06:45 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 51635 in ardour "missing dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 06:45 |
| === raphink [n=raphink@wormhole.x-echo.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Gervystar [n=alessand@host230-162-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | luisbg: does it need a particular version of jackd? | 06:46 |
| === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| luisbg | imo no | 06:47 |
| LaserJock | then that looks fine to me | 06:47 |
| luisbg | ok cool, just checking =) | 06:48 |
| luisbg | still don't have too much confidence in myself | 06:48 |
| luisbg | LaserJock, I joined the ubuntu studio team | 06:48 |
| LaserJock | good | 06:48 |
| luisbg | they are starting so need loads of help | 06:49 |
| luisbg | and since loads of it is non technical | 06:49 |
| luisbg | I've been all day helping | 06:49 |
| luisbg | LaserJock, will ask for help when we try to package cinelerra | 06:52 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 06:53 |
| luisbg | I've heard it's hell to package | 06:53 |
| luisbg | a few have tried before | 06:53 |
| === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.54] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| luisbg | LaserJock, are apps that need java hard to package? | 06:59 |
| LaserJock | it's not that they are hard to package | 06:59 |
| LaserJock | but they are usually not so cool because Sun's Java is not Free | 07:00 |
| LaserJock | if they can a Free java VM then it not bad | 07:00 |
| ajmitch | morning | 07:01 |
| luisbg | how does azureus does it? | 07:01 |
| luisbg | hey ajmitch | 07:01 |
| LaserJock | luisbg: look at apt-cache show azureus | 07:02 |
| luisbg | I see | 07:04 |
| === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| Amaranth | crimsun: ping? | 07:28 |
| crimsun | Amaranth: pong | 07:36 |
| Amaranth | PM? | 07:36 |
| crimsun | sure | 07:36 |
| === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === yotux [n=yotux@68-115-37-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| yotux | have a question about packaging | 07:46 |
| === redguy [n=mati@public-gprs19093.centertel.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| luisbg | is there a guide for java application packaging in ubuntu? | 07:55 |
| LaserJock | no | 07:56 |
| LaserJock | Debian has a Java policy though, I think | 07:56 |
| crimsun | Amaranth: I'm here, my responses haven't gone through | 07:56 |
| ajmitch | hi crimsun | 07:56 |
| crimsun | (being unidentified and all) | 07:56 |
| Amaranth | crimsun: oh | 07:57 |
| crimsun | hi ajmitch | 07:57 |
| Amaranth | i forget how to turn that off | 07:57 |
| LaserJock | why are we turning that off? | 07:57 |
| LaserJock | grrr, is there a way to sort/filter subscribed specs | 08:00 |
| === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| luisbg | LaserJock, I have read the debian java policy | 08:01 |
| luisbg | but looking to the azureus package and original source... they are very different | 08:01 |
| luisbg | and that confuses me | 08:01 |
| === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-145-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === rgl [n=Rui@84.90.9.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === tepsipakki [n=tjaalton@replicant.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| rgl | hello | 08:05 |
| LaserJock | darn it | 08:09 |
| LaserJock | I forgot to bring a NIC in to work | 08:10 |
| === Lure_ [n=lure@72-254-161-29.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | I guess that'll teach me to not toss out all the junker computers | 08:14 |
| === bhale looks at the box of NICS under his desk | ||
| bhale | 4 port GIG-E | 08:14 |
| === _DvP_ [n=David@128.235.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | bhale: ggrr | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | I'm just trying to find something that's not ISA | 08:15 |
| bhale | they are like $500 a piece, freaking ridiculous | 08:15 |
| bhale | PCIE | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | \o/ found one. hopefully it's not dead | 08:17 |
| Amaranth | PCI-E 4 port GIG-E? | 08:20 |
| bhale | Amaranth: yes | 08:20 |
| Amaranth | i hope they've also got that hardware assist crap | 08:20 |
| bhale | i cant get enough of them | 08:20 |
| Amaranth | unless you have a beast of a machine managing all the data | 08:21 |
| bhale | sniffer ports | 08:21 |
| bhale | hm i put 3 in a box dude :) | 08:21 |
| === Jozo- [i=jozo@viola.uninea.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | hmm, is there a way to totally reset the network settings | 08:25 |
| LaserJock | my box seems to think there's an eth0 that isn't there | 08:26 |
| LaserJock | but it puts the real eth0 as eth2 | 08:26 |
| bhale | /etc/iftab | 08:26 |
| bhale | you can map names to mac addresses | 08:27 |
| LaserJock | geeze my networking is hosed | 08:28 |
| LaserJock | it's all because the onboard LAN seems to have died | 08:28 |
| LaserJock | how is iftab created? | 08:29 |
| === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | automatically at boot? | 08:29 |
| === hub [n=hub@moodiegate.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-6-106.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| bhale | i think by the installer | 08:30 |
| bhale | if you comment it out | 08:30 |
| bhale | udev does whatever it feels like | 08:30 |
| === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| Amaranth | yay for randomly changing network device names :P | 08:31 |
| bhale | yeah it rules | 08:32 |
| LaserJock | well, if the gnome networking tool didn't seem to do weird things it'd be nice | 08:33 |
| LaserJock | darn it, I'm so close to reinstalling just so I can get some networking | 08:36 |
| ajmitch | gah, forums | 08:43 |
| === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.160.238] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | ajmitch: what now? | 08:44 |
| === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| ajmitch | just crap | 08:44 |
| === _DvP_ [n=David@128.235.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | I want to believe I was never that kind of forum user :/ | 08:45 |
| ajmitch | I really shouldn't read them, they're bad for my health | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | well, luckily the "Education and Science" subforum was started | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | I can just go there | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | and not wander around too much :-) | 08:47 |
| ajmitch | I was reading the feisty section | 08:47 |
| === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-43-155.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.160.238] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === lophyte [n=dsulliva@ubuntu/member/lophyte] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| imbrandon | moins fella's | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | ok, here's a question, do we have an easy way to see what packages are in -proposed? | 08:58 |
| LaserJock | hi imbrandon | 08:58 |
| imbrandon | hrm not that i know of | 08:58 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, there is a feisty section ? | 08:59 |
| === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| Burgwork | hey imbrandon | 09:01 |
| imbrandon | heya Burgwork | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: I added edgy-proposed to my sources list, but then I realized that I wouldn't know if I was testing something or not :/ | 09:02 |
| imbrandon | you can madison and see where its comming from | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | but I'd have to madison everything | 09:02 |
| imbrandon | on a per package basis | 09:02 |
| imbrandon | yea | 09:02 |
| imbrandon | that sucks | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | it was just a thought | 09:02 |
| imbrandon | hrm | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | I thought maybe there might be a proposed.ubuntu.com or something like that that listed the contents of the repo | 09:03 |
| === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Lutin_ [n=ubuntu@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| imbrandon | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-proposed/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz looks empty | 09:05 |
| === matid [n=matid@ubuntu/member/matid] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| ajmitch | imbrandon: of course there's a feisty section, where else do they come up with this crap? | 09:12 |
| imbrandon | haha | 09:13 |
| LaserJock | I thought the Ubuntu fairies waved their magic wands of the DC | 09:14 |
| LaserJock | s/of/over/ | 09:14 |
| ajmitch | some of the forum people think that | 09:15 |
| === imbrandon looks for the feisty section | ||
| ajmitch | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=179 | 09:17 |
| ajmitch | people that can't dist-upgrade to feisty because they spell it fiesty in sources.list :) | 09:19 |
| whiprush | that was awesp,e | 09:19 |
| whiprush | awesome even | 09:19 |
| whiprush | sorry, new keyboard. | 09:19 |
| ajmitch | hey whiprush! | 09:19 |
| LaserJock | that one's going to bite me | 09:19 |
| whiprush | hi aj | 09:19 |
| imbrandon | heya whiprush | 09:19 |
| LaserJock | I know I'm going to get an uploaded rejected cause I'll spell it wrong | 09:20 |
| whiprush | hi imbrandon | 09:20 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, rockin ( next question is why they are dist upgrading to feisty now anyhow ) | 09:20 |
| lifeless | clearly it should be spelt fisty | 09:20 |
| lifeless | that way there would be no confusion | 09:20 |
| imbrandon | lol | 09:20 |
| LaserJock | maybe I'll have to write a script that says, "It's feisty stupid" | 09:20 |
| whiprush | it's hoary not whorey! | 09:20 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: "because they can" | 09:21 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: dput hooks | 09:21 |
| === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | imbrandon: got you're music stream going? | 09:21 |
| mr_pouit | does someone have a good exemple of a package using debconf ? or a link to a good explanation ? | 09:22 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock, no but i can fire it up | 09:22 |
| imbrandon | mr_pouit, xorg ? | 09:22 |
| mr_pouit | imbrandon, ok, thanks, i will look at it | 09:22 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: people always want the latest & greatest crack, no matter how broken | 09:22 |
| LaserJock | mr_pouit: just a sec, there's a good reference, let me find it | 09:23 |
| LaserJock | mr_pouit: http://www.fifi.org/doc/debconf-doc/tutorial.html | 09:24 |
| mr_pouit | thanks :) | 09:24 |
| === redguy_ [n=mati@public-gprs19093.centertel.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | I somewhat question the helpfulness of a " UDS Mountain View : Call for specs for Feisty" on the forums | 09:26 |
| imbrandon | specialy when the instructions was to make a forum thread | 09:26 |
| imbrandon | about it | 09:26 |
| ajmitch | somehow, I don't think a single sentence is enough for a thread | 09:27 |
| LaserJock | well, it seems like we have waaay too many specs | 09:27 |
| LaserJock | I think specs have somewhat turned into basically feature requests | 09:28 |
| === Lure_ [n=lure@72-254-161-29.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| whiprush | LaserJock: indeed. | 09:28 |
| whiprush | Pet Bug fixes please | 09:28 |
| LaserJock | I'm worried that we'll have to start weeding them out | 09:29 |
| LaserJock | and then it looks like we're the bad guys | 09:29 |
| LaserJock | well, mdz anyway ;-) | 09:29 |
| TheMuso | There were heaps for Paris. | 09:29 |
| whiprush | there needs to be a "We Know" mechanism someplace. | 09:29 |
| TheMuso | Not all wre looked at afaik. | 09:30 |
| LaserJock | not close | 09:30 |
| LaserJock | and I think we might have more this time | 09:30 |
| TheMuso | Fun fun fun. | 09:30 |
| TheMuso | Just when the spec process was useful for new feature development, it looks like there may have to be tighter restrictions on who can do it next time. | 09:30 |
| TheMuso | If it needs to be kept under control. | 09:30 |
| LaserJock | if you figure 3 BOFs / spec | 09:31 |
| TheMuso | But I know thats not always fair for those who have good spec ideas. | 09:31 |
| LaserJock | you get about 20-30 specs | 09:31 |
| LaserJock | if you do 4 tracks | 09:32 |
| LaserJock | ~100 | 09:32 |
| LaserJock | if you're lucky | 09:32 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 09:32 |
| === Lutin_ [n=ubuntu@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| whiprush | LaserJock: ditto the mailing list. | 09:33 |
| ogra | LaserJock, well, spec proposal time is over anyway | 09:33 |
| LaserJock | we are at 163 accepted specs for Mt. View | 09:33 |
| LaserJock | ogra: it's an older thread | 09:33 |
| LaserJock | and I don't know that they care | 09:34 |
| ogra | look only at the ones with mid priority and hgher | 09:34 |
| ogra | *higher | 09:34 |
| LaserJock | the message seems to be "If you write a spec they will have to implement it" | 09:34 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: 163 seems about average | 09:34 |
| ogra | the low ones will likely fall off the table again | 09:34 |
| === Plug [n=crb@203.167.190.117] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | ogra: sure, but there are 163 specs proposed | 09:34 |
| ajmitch | ogra: considering that just about all of our directory team stuff is undefined, it's not looking so great them | 09:35 |
| ogra | s/proposed/accepted/ ;) | 09:35 |
| ajmitch | though we'll still have to meet & talk | 09:35 |
| LaserJock | ogra: yes | 09:35 |
| LaserJock | I'm just saying, I don't think a lot of people have realistic expectations when it comes to a UDS | 09:35 |
| ogra | ajmitch, by sunday all 163 should have a prio ... | 09:35 |
| whiprush | ajmitch: I was going to go a different approach, get sabdfl hammered saturday night, then have him log into launchpad ... | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | haha | 09:36 |
| imbrandon | lol | 09:36 |
| ajmitch | great | 09:36 |
| ajmitch | whiprush: you want to try & drink him under the table? | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | whiprush: he might flip a few too many switches though | 09:36 |
| whiprush | heh | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | oh look, feisty has been released | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | doh | 09:37 |
| imbrandon | you know the opinoins on the beryl-by-default thread are sane though, i'm suprised, they seem to say the same thing we have been ( make it easy to install but not default ) | 09:37 |
| imbrandon | first good thread i've seen | 09:37 |
| ajmitch | yeah, I was pleasantly surprised | 09:38 |
| ajmitch | I wondered if I was on the wrong forum | 09:38 |
| imbrandon | :) | 09:38 |
| === pingar [n=saltvik@ti500720a080-1455.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | ok, so here's the interesting part for me, there are 909 open specs for ubuntu | 09:41 |
| bhale | and? | 09:41 |
| LaserJock | it's kinda insane | 09:41 |
| bhale | well anyone can write one | 09:41 |
| bhale | and there are many duplicates | 09:41 |
| LaserJock | yes | 09:42 |
| Burgwork | and only certain people can make them obsolete | 09:42 |
| === gottreu [n=gottreu@martok.cc.LaTech.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] | ||
| imbrandon | how many high and medium ones ? | 09:42 |
| Burgwork | the issue is not people writing them | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | well, like 2/3 are "Undefined" | 09:42 |
| Burgwork | the issue is seperation | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | Burgwork: exactly | 09:43 |
| Burgwork | by default, only certain people can assign priority | 09:43 |
| LaserJock | right now I can't even separate my subscribed specs by product even | 09:43 |
| LaserJock | it's rather hard to see what's going on | 09:43 |
| LaserJock | it's like one big blob | 09:44 |
| imbrandon | make a spec on spec handleing ( scarcasim ) | 09:44 |
| LaserJock | doh | 09:44 |
| imbrandon | sarcasim* | 09:44 |
| rgl | can someone help me with this error http://pastie.caboo.se/20906 ? | 09:44 |
| rgl | its outputing some weird locale errors :| | 09:45 |
| imbrandon | export LC_ALL=C | 09:45 |
| TheMuso | Is lp slow for anybody else? | 09:46 |
| rgl | I want to use en_US.UTF-8. but I don't have that on /usr/share/locale/ :( | 09:46 |
| imbrandon | en_US.UTF-8 isnt a locale its a language | 09:49 |
| imbrandon | it wants the locale set | 09:49 |
| imbrandon | e.g export LC_ALL=C | 09:49 |
| rgl | huh? why do I have all the others LC_XXX en_US.UTF-8 ? | 09:50 |
| imbrandon | LANGUAGE = (unset), | 09:50 |
| imbrandon | LC_ALL = (unset), | 09:50 |
| imbrandon | LANG = "en_US.UTF-8" | 09:50 |
| imbrandon | brandon@horatio:~$ echo $LANGUAGE | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | en | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | brandon@horatio:~$ echo $LC_ALL | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | C | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | brandon@horatio:~$ echo $LANG | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | en_US.UTF-8 | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | brandon@horatio:~$ | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | rgl, ^^ | 09:52 |
| === chesty [n=chesty@unconcerned.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| rgl | sorry imbrandon , but I want UTF for everything. | 09:57 |
| TheMuso | Wow. A spec has been proposed to consider whether ppc will be dropped. | 09:58 |
| rgl | I found how to do it. I have to generate the locale stuff using locale-gen | 09:58 |
| bhale | TheMuso: is that so suprising? | 09:58 |
| TheMuso | Yes. | 09:58 |
| imbrandon | TheMuso, yea , i dont think it will happen this time though, there are still too many ppc's out there | 09:59 |
| imbrandon | maybe next time | 09:59 |
| bhale | it will be planned well in advance | 09:59 |
| bhale | a few releases away | 09:59 |
| TheMuso | Surprising to me at least. | 09:59 |
| bhale | it has to happen sometime. | 09:59 |
| TheMuso | Fair enough. | 09:59 |
| bhale | the major vendor has exited | 09:59 |
| imbrandon | for desktops , not servers | 09:59 |
| bhale | it wasnt there for servers | 09:59 |
| imbrandon | thus we'll probably keep the server version like sparcs | 10:00 |
| bhale | and we dont support ia64 for example | 10:00 |
| bhale | "support" | 10:00 |
| imbrandon | we dont support sparc either on the desktop but do on the server | 10:00 |
| bhale | ppc isnt going to suddenly disappear as an ubuntu arch | 10:00 |
| TheMuso | I know that. | 10:00 |
| imbrandon | bhale, my point is sparc is still a canonical supported arch on the server iso's and ibm still cranks out lots of ppc servers :) | 10:01 |
| bhale | ok, right on | 10:01 |
| imbrandon | but not on the desktop | 10:01 |
| bhale | could be the plan | 10:01 |
| ChaosFan | wg 43 | 10:01 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: and it doesn't mean that we'd drop ppc altogther from support | 10:01 |
| imbrandon | right | 10:01 |
| imbrandon | just not from canonical | 10:02 |
| finalbeta | How does one propose a package? Is the wiki the "official" way for end users? | 10:02 |
| imbrandon | finalbeta, if you want someone else to eventualy get to it put it on the wiki page, if you have already made packages use REVU | 10:03 |
| LaserJock | finalbeta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates | 10:03 |
| finalbeta | thnx | 10:03 |
| === lophyte [n=dsulliva@ubuntu/member/lophyte] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-6-106.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Gervystar [n=alessand@host230-162-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === theCore [n=alex@modemcable128.255-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === ubitux [n=ubitux@88.160.187.174] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | geeze, how do you register for an LP account? | 10:58 |
| LaserJock | I can't find a URL | 10:58 |
| ogra | https://launchpad.net/people ? | 10:59 |
| ogra | i think you dont see it if you are logged in | 10:59 |
| imbrandon | launchpad.net , top right | 10:59 |
| === geser [n=michael@dialin106162.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | oh, must be because I'm logged in | 10:59 |
| ogra | ah, right, its top right :) | 11:00 |
| ajmitch | left, right, all so confusing :) | 11:00 |
| imbrandon | lol | 11:01 |
| ajmitch | launchpad is a bit like that :) | 11:01 |
| === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === grimace [n=grimace@rolf.yuss.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === FliesLikeALap [n=Ryan@fletching-04.dynamic2.rpi.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| Toadstool | hi everybody | 11:12 |
| === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-142-54-172.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| LaserJock | hi Toadstool | 11:13 |
| Toadstool | hey LaserJock | 11:13 |
| === Zdra [n=zdra@96.204-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-091-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === pingar [n=saltvik@ti500720a080-1455.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === ajmitch wonders if the new glibc is safe to upgrade to | ||
| === Lutin_ [n=ubuntu@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] | ||
| === giskard thinks that ajmitch is crazy | ||
| lifeless | ajmitch: jbailey has | 11:43 |
| ajmitch | I figured he would | 11:43 |
| ajmitch | it should be reasonably ok | 11:43 |
| ajmitch | however the latest glibc upload isn't built & in the archive yet | 11:44 |
| ogra | yeah pitti complained earlier about the buildds | 11:53 |
| === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === ogra_ [n=ogra@63.81.187.231] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
