sparrinteresting.  faster than dash?12:01
JosefKPaddy_EIRE: put your local installation at the front of your $PATH12:01
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JosefKPaddy_EIRE: the launchers use relative, not absolute, paths12:01
sethksparr, I think you type the fewest characters with zsh.  I haven't used dash much, though.  I assume it's the default because it's low overhead.12:01
sethksparr, might be the dash from busybox, I'll have to check.12:02
Paddy_EIREJosefK: ln -s /usr/bin/firefox /home/patrick/Packages/firefox/firefox12:02
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crimsunCommander-Crow1: pastebin ``lspci -vn && amixer''12:02
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JosefKPaddy_EIRE: erk :/ I think the easiest solution was just put into offtopic, symlink it to /usr/local/bin/firefox12:02
soundrayCommander-Crow1: run 'lspci -vn && amixer' and post the output on the pastebin12:02
ubuntu_newbHello everyone.12:02
dibblegothe network-admin applet crashes each time I try to use it12:02
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sparrsethk: err, i mean faster for running scripts.  thats why i use dash instead of bash for sh, it cuts minutes off some long scripts12:02
Commander-Crow1will do12:02
JosefKPaddy_EIRE: /usr/local/bin by default has priority over /usr/bin12:02
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sethksparr, right, just startup time would be a lot quicker12:02
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sparrsethk: openoffice 'configure' script runs over a minute faster in dash than bash  :)12:03
cynicalnot that it would make a difference12:03
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sethksparr, interesting.12:03
Homer_Linuxyeah ive thyed the gnome-panel and i get this error "ive detected a panel already running ,and will now exit"12:03
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SilentDishello :)12:03
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kikokos_culd somebody help me?12:04
SilentDisquicky question:  how do i change the default app that opens when I insert an audio cd?  (dapper)12:04
squidlyhello anyone here using nagios?12:04
soundrayHomer_Linux: is starting over with a new gnome configuration an option?12:04
Paddy_EIREJosefK: how would I delete the existing firefox symlink in /usr/local/bin/firefox12:04
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JosefKPaddy_EIRE: you don't need to12:04
kikokos_I added new user but I dont have userdirectory /home/....12:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nagios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:04
kikokos_what`s up?12:04
soundraySilentDis: System-Preferences-Removable...12:04
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Paddy_EIREJosefK: it aint working12:05
squidlySilentDis: i have nagios installed but I messed up and over wrote a config file i need ><12:05
kikokos_I have my ol user directory/home/username/12:05
SilentDissquidly:  what is nagios?12:05
mcphailPaddy_EIRE: type "hash -r"12:05
LjLkikokos_: how did you add the user?12:05
salimhi, wine does hardly work, because I often get error message that he cant import dlls and outputs strange symbols: err:module:import_dll Library 12:05
n1gkekikokos_, just ask your question and perhaps someone will help you, now or later.12:05
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SilentDissoundray: thanks :)12:05
adele_I have followed the guide to install ATI driver at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI but its not working. I have tried the troubleshooting thing but it doesn't work. Can somebody help me out?12:05
JosefKPaddy_EIRE: the link, or calling firefox?12:05
squidlynagios is a monitoring utility12:05
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Davieysalim, you can normally find the dll's wine requires by searching google12:05
Paddy_EIREjoevandyk:  calling firefox12:05
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specialbuddyis there a way to go from ubuntu to kubuntu without reinstalling12:06
LjLkikokos_: that's weird, it should definitely create a home unless you instruct it not to. tried again?12:06
kikokos_ljl I used adduser12:06
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LjLspecialbuddy: you can install kubuntu-desktop, that won't remove gnome though12:06
soundrayspecialbuddy: 'sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop'12:06
JosefKPaddy_EIRE: ls -l /usr/local/bin/firefox; echo $PATH12:06
Paddy_EIREmcphail: what did that do12:06
salimthe point is I cant search the dlls because I dont know what dlls he wants, he just outputs strange question marks: err:module:import_dll Library 12:06
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DanSchnellI still can't get ubuntu to boot correctly from LiveCD.  Can I get some help?12:06
specialbuddyis there a way to get rid of ubuntu after that?12:06
NemesisUKanyone here use a dvb card?12:06
kikokos_yes I tried again with another user name Iand I dont have usercatalogs in /home12:06
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soundray!bootoptions | DanSchnell12:06
ubotuDanSchnell: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions12:06
kalikianaanyone knowledge about dsl usb modems?12:06
DavieyNemesisUK, yes12:06
LjLspecialbuddy: not really... you can remove libgnome, and it'll remove most of the stuff.12:06
Commander-Crowepastebin isn't working is there something else?12:06
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kikokos_I work in recovery mode on edgy12:06
Homer_Linuxsondray sorry mate is late what do you mean12:06
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SilentDisadele_: i have some bad news... i had the same problem, couldn't get acceleration working at all.  I ended up dropping in an NVidia card and not looking back.12:07
mcphailPaddy_EIRE: it told BASH to check your $PATH for firefox again, rather than remembering where it looked last time12:07
LjLCommander-Crowe: pastebin.ca12:07
LjLCommander-Crowe: it's working for me anyway12:07
kikokos_ljl it`s to me about remove libgni\ome..12:07
salimis there a utf8/westerniso error maybe?12:07
Paddy_EIREJosefK: my firefox link is not there12:07
soundrayHomer_Linux: have you put a lot of work in your gnome configuration?12:07
DanSchnellSoundray, None of those work12:07
jorgpspecialbuddy, yes, in /etc/apt/sources.list change ubuntu to kubuntu, apt-get update and your off apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:07
NemesisUKDaviey, how do I get sound from the card, I have video12:07
DanSchnellI think it may have something to do with having a custom built computetr12:07
cntbhow do I see users in channel in xchat ubuntu ?12:07
LjLkikokos_: no, i said specialbuddy12:07
JosefKPaddy_EIRE: you need to make the link with sudo, ie 'ln -s *firefox path* /usr/local/bin/firefox12:07
Homer_Linuxsoundray ;(  yes but never mind12:07
JosefKerk, sudo ln -s.12:07
soundrayDanSchnell: describe your problem12:07
kikokos_LjL ok but have you any suggest :)?12:08
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LjLkikokos_: try typing "ls -l / | grep home" and pasting the output12:08
DavieyNemesisUK, it just worked!  have you looked at alsamixer?12:08
mandelumCan I update from edgy RC1 to the final release, is there anything else to  do than to install all the automatic updates? or should I reinstall?12:08
LjLkikokos_, patience. i have only 10 fingers12:08
Paddy_EIREJosefK: ahhh12:08
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salimcntb: click on the users button on the left bottom, it is labeled with "1030 Users"12:08
kikokos_ljl drwxr-xr-x   5 root jer   4096 Nov  1 16:07 home12:08
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kalikianaanyone knowledge about dsl usb modems?12:08
NemesisUKDaviey, I knew I'd forgetton something cheers I'll give that a go12:08
xenakisif I want to put a script to execute regardless of runlevel, where should I put the symbolic link to it?12:08
DanSchnellsoundray, when I select "start or install Ubuntu" it loads but then my screen gets all purple and doesn't show the desktop12:08
SilentDissoundray: i switched it to gaim, i assume I have to restart gnome after?12:08
kikokos_ljl jer=new user12:08
soundrayHomer_Linux: exit gnome, log into a failsafe session and run 'rm ~/.gnome*'12:08
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LjLkikokos_: uh, why did you make the group of /home "jer"?12:09
kikokos_ljl that`s good u have them12:09
cntbSalihu,  dont have it12:09
soundrayDanSchnell: have you tried the safe graphics option?12:09
LjLkikokos_: wait, what is the *exact* command you used?12:09
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Paddy_EIREJosefK: it still aint working12:09
zambatruehi guys.12:09
Homer_Linuxthanks soundray bbiab12:09
SilentDissoundray: er, grip, sorry lol12:09
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kikokos_ljl adduser12:09
DavieyNemesisUK, presumably you have "dvb-utils dvbstream" installed?12:09
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zambatruequick link to edgy repos please?12:09
LjLkikokos_: without any parameters?12:09
Commander-Crowesoundray: http://pastebin.ca/23343412:09
JosefKPaddy_EIRE: does that 'ls -l /usr/local/bin/firefox; echo $PATH' work?12:09
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kikokos_ljl yes without12:09
soundraySilentDis: no, you don't12:09
mandelumCan I update from edgy RC1 to the final release, is there anything else to  do than to install all the automatic updates? or should I reinstall?12:09
Commander-Crowecrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/23343412:10
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Paddy_EIREJosefK: what is it supposed to do12:10
JosefKPaddy_EIRE: your $PATH should have /usr/local/bin closer to the start of the line than /usr/bin12:10
LjLkikokos_: ok, i'm not understanding why /home has group "jer". did you set this manually?12:10
DanSchnellSoundray, Yes, I can take a picture of it if you would like so you can see what I am experiencing12:10
io_pcgI would to know how to execute the program c++ that I installed with synaptic12:10
JosefKPaddy_EIRE: the 'ls -l' just shows you where the link points to, the echo shows us what's in your PATH variable (where programs are searched for)12:10
kalikianaanyone knowledge about dsl usb modems?12:10
kitcheio_pcg: do you mean g++?12:10
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kikokos_ljl o g maybe i was so sleepy yesterday12:10
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Davieyio_pcg, do you mean c++ development enviroment or just the compiler?12:11
kikokos_but what should i do now?12:11
io_pcgumm not c++ is a language12:11
Paddy_EIREJosefK: /usr/local/sbin12:11
sethkio_pcg, you mean the c++ compiler?12:11
soundrayDanSchnell: I don't really think I can be of any help -- just wanted to check the obvious12:11
JosefKPaddy_EIRE: there should be /usr/local/bin there too12:11
kikokos_ljl how to delete this group?12:11
io_pcgthe compiler12:11
SilentDissoundray: duh of the day, changed the wrong thing rofl.12:11
Paddy_EIREJosefK: yes its second12:11
DanSchnellCan anyone else help me?12:11
sethkio_pcg, usually it's /usr/bin/g++12:11
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JosefKPaddy_EIRE: then if the link checks out, type 'firefox' into a console and see which you get12:11
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LjLkikokos_: well, i'm not sure how the problem might have arisen, but i'd do:   "sudo chown root:root /home ; sudo deluser jer ; sudo adduser jer"12:11
soundrayDanSchnell: you will have to describe your problem again.12:11
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SilentDissoundray: works fine when I do it right, of course.  rofl.  thank you :)12:12
crimsunCommander-Crowe: that looks like an onboard driven by snd-intel8x0, not your audigy ls12:12
Paddy_EIREJosefK: command not found12:12
n1gkeDanSchnell, just ask the question and someone will help you, now or later.....12:12
Davieyio_pcg, you should just be able to type 'g++' in the console12:12
Commander-Crowecrimsun: oops12:12
DanSchnellSoundray, I will take a picture, I will be back in a few moments12:12
JosefKPaddy_EIRE: are you sure the link points to the right place? check the 'ls -l' output carefully12:12
Homer_Linuxsoundray is a directory wont let me remove iit12:12
io_pcgfor example: sudo g++?12:12
NemesisUKDaviey, just checked alsamixer the cards in there and the volumes are all set but I still get no sound12:12
io_pcgc++ sorry!12:12
Agrajagio_pcg: no, just g++12:12
Commander-Crowecrimsun: but I tried that one and it still didn't work12:12
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crimsunCommander-Crowe: pastebin ``cat ~/.asoundrc*'', too12:12
io_pcglet me check hehe12:12
DavieyNemesisUK, presumably you have "dvb-utils dvbstream" installed?12:12
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Agrajagio_pcg: don't use sudo unless you need root privileges12:13
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NemesisUKDaviey, yes12:13
sethkio_pcg, there should also be a link c++, so you can use either12:13
LjLio_pcg: C++ is a language, g++ (part of the GCC project) is a compiler that compiles C++12:13
soundrayHomer_Linux: sorry, it has to be 'rm -rf .gnome*'. Don't do it while gnome is running, otherwise it'll write the old data back.12:13
Commander-Croweit says no such dur12:13
Paddy_EIREJosefK: it just says "File exists" each time I try to symlink it to anywhere12:13
SilentDisthanks again, rather glad I switched to ubuntu, never have I found a linux community so helpful.12:13
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kikokos_ljl,Cannot remove group jer which is a primary group for another user12:13
sethkPaddy_EIRE, that means the _link_ exists already12:13
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Commander-Crowecrimsun: no such dir12:13
SilentDistake care all :)12:13
JosefKPaddy_EIRE: you're getting the symlink the correct way round?  ln [source]  [destination] 12:13
DavieyNemesisUK, what are you using to watch tv?12:13
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crimsunCommander-Crowe: ok, now pastebin ``cat /var/log/dmesg /proc/interrupts''12:13
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eugmanThe pipe to program option in evolution is having some problems being set right.12:13
lobosquehow do i add some lines to be executed when ubuntu starts?12:13
Paddy_EIREJosefK: ooops12:13
NemesisUKsaa7134 dvb card12:13
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JosefKPaddy_EIRE: dw :P I made that mistake plenty of times too12:14
LjLUbotu, please tell lobosque about boot12:14
soundraylobosque: add them to /etc/rc.local (to be run as root)12:14
DavieyNemesisUK, sorry i mean't software12:14
LjLlobosque: hint: /etc/rc.local - other hint: they'll be executed as root12:14
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lobosquewow, this bot is inteliggent12:14
io_pcgthe comand says that there aren't aplication in the enter :S12:14
lobosqueLjL thanks12:14
kalikianaanyone knowledge about dsl usb modems?12:14
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NemesisUKDaviey, ive tried xine and kaffiene12:14
Arrickhey, does ubuntu breezy have support for the Radeon X800 GTO video card?12:14
Arrickif not how about dapper?12:14
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phillipwats a good media converter ?12:15
LjLUbotu, please tell arrick about hardware12:15
JosefK!ffmpeg > phillip12:15
kikokos_ljl it cannot remove it12:15
JosefKthere isn't a good GUI for it though, I'm working on one atm12:15
LjLkikokos_: what does it say12:15
mandelumCan I update from edgy RC1 to the final release, is there anything else to  do than to install all the automatic updates? or should I reinstall?12:15
ArrickLjL, I was asking because the live cd works, but the default install doesnt, any tricks forit?12:15
LjLmandelum: automatic updates should be fine12:15
DavieyNemesisUK, hmm - i only tested mine on mplayer.  not that it should matter, but worth a try12:15
kikokos_ljl userdel: Cannot remove group jer which is a primary group for another user.12:15
kikokos_adduser: The group `jer' already exists.12:15
Paddy_EIREJosefK: nice one12:15
eugmanCan someone help me with my evolution problem?12:16
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NemesisUKDaviey, I'll go install that brb12:16
soundrayeugman: what are you trying to evolve into?12:16
LjLArrick: i don't know. perhaps try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from a console, if you can get to it (otherwise use recovery mode), and tinker. select VESA driver if nothing else works.12:16
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JosefKPaddy_EIRE: np's12:16
lobosqueLjL must I remove the "exit 0" line?12:16
Commander-Crowecrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/23345712:16
LjLlobosque: no12:16
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LjLkikokos_: ... another user? type, as your own user, "groups". are you a member of group "jer"?12:17
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io_pcgif I writte g++ in the console they say that there aren't packets in the enter12:17
Paddy_EIREJosefK: will all the other users at my comp beable to benefit from this or should I have put the extracted firefox directory somewhere else other than "/home/myname/Packages/firefox" ??12:17
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eugmanSoundray, a linux user. Unfortunately that seems to require a massive amount of energy. Or someone who can get the mail program set right.12:17
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JosefKPaddy_EIRE: you can use chmod and friends so they can, but yes, installing as root to /opt or /usr/local would be preferable12:18
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kikokos_ljl  i dont want to log as another user cause it has bad gonfiguration gnome12:18
soundrayeugman: your best bet is to describe your problem and hope for an evolution expert to be listening.12:18
kalikianaanyone knowledge about dsl usb modems?12:18
LjLkikokos_, i said as your *own* user. type "groups" and see if you are a member of "jer"12:18
soundraykalikiana: is this a survey?12:18
sethkkalikiana, slightly.  ask your question, see if someone might know the answer12:19
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io_pcgif I writte g++ in the console they say that there aren't packets in the enter, what I have to do?12:19
Paddy_EIREJosefK: what If I chmod the entire Packages folder then they would beable to use it wouldnt they12:19
JosefKPaddy_EIRE: ie, cd to the base of your firefox installation, and run 'chmod -R 755 .'12:19
LjLio_pcg, i'm sorry, but i can't understand your english12:19
kalikianasoundray: i just seek for help getting my usb modem to work :(12:19
sethkio_pcg, it will say "no input files", is that what you mean?12:19
JosefKPaddy_EIRE: indeed12:19
soundrayio_pcg: your question doesn't make sense12:19
eugmansoundray, Well my problem is more ubuntu related. A change in the UI seems to have made specifying a program with an argument impossible.12:19
sethkio_pcg, you give it a file name.  it's a compiler, you have to tell it what file to compile.12:20
soundraykalikiana: describe the problem12:20
kikokos_ljl root@jo-desktop:~# groups12:20
io_pcgsethk yes sorry ^_^''''12:20
LjLkikokos_, *NOT* as root, as your *OWN* user12:20
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io_pcgammm ok, and the compiler?12:20
soundrayeugman: be *even more* specific12:20
nothlitHi, I've install gtk-engines-pixmap and restarted x but still get this message Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",12:20
Paddy_EIREJosefK: what do I type "sudo chmod -R 755 /home/patrick/Packages" ???12:20
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kalikianasoundray: i have 'castlenet' dsl modem connected via usb and i don't know how to install it12:20
io_pcgsorry, the program to do a program...12:20
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io_pcghow I have to execute?12:21
kikokos_ljl i`m in recovery cause my own user has bad cofiguration gnome12:21
mcphailPaddy_EIRE: the problem with that solution is that your users are going to get firefox2 when they may be expecting/wanting/needing 1.512:21
Davieyio_pcg, Have you thought about using a development enviroment like kdevelop?  Then you can use menu's to compile12:21
TwiggyHey I'm on a fresh edgy install and for whatever reason my right alt/ctrl keys don't work, but the left ones do.  This worked before on an dapper -> edgy upgraded install.  Any ideas what could be up?12:21
JosefKPaddy_EIRE: yes, although check what permissions it has already12:21
Paddy_EIREmcphail: that does not matter12:21
JosefKPaddy_EIRE: and as mcphail said, that could be a problem12:21
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ubuntu_newbI just installed ubuntu on my second pc12:21
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:21
soundraykalikiana: does the modem show up when you enter 'lsusb'?12:21
ubuntu_newbwhat would be a good list of packages to install for the basic stuff12:21
LjLkikokos_: i'm afraid it's not just your gnome config that is bad. anyway, type "groups your-username"12:21
ubuntu_newbI just installed all the updates.12:22
io_pcgyes I have already install, but...it don't apear in my first menu...and I don't know how to execute...:S12:22
LjLkikokos_: and please paste only the output line, don't spam the channel12:22
kalikianasoundray: in fact since i plugged it in, lsusb doesn't respond any more12:22
crimsunCommander-Crowe: there don't appear to be any interrupts processed for the ca010612:22
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crimsunCommander-Crowe: is the onboard intel sound disabled in bios?12:22
eugmanWhenever I edit a rule in evolution it says to specify a file. So I type in the location for the program to pipe to along with the corresponding argument and click ok. When I edit the rule again the problem seems to revert itself.12:22
soundraykalikiana: then your USB hardware is hung. Not worth trying anything else until you reboot.12:22
Commander-Crowecrimsun: then i better test it out12:22
Commander-Crowecrimsun: no12:22
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT12:23
Davieyio_pcg, Hmm, should be in Applications -> Programming -> Kdevelop.  If not, press alt+f2 and type kdevelop12:23
crimsunCommander-Crowe: try disabling onboard in bios first12:23
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kikokos_ljl jo : jo adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin12:23
dredhammercan someone tell me whats the easiest way to downgrade from edgy to dapper?12:23
morphishubuntu_newb: mplayer xmms xchat gaim azureus <--- basic stuff12:23
kalikianasoundray: can you give me any hints in advance?12:23
Commander-Crowecrimsun: I have tried there is no way :(12:23
crimsundredhammer: reinstall 6.06.112:23
ubotuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.12:23
morphishdredhammer: reinstall fresh12:23
MtJBno lo va, no va, no beryl on edgy it don't go12:24
MtJBnot after svn, at least12:24
LjLkikokos_: ok, type "cat /etc/group | grep jer", and tell me who's a member of this jer group12:24
dredhammerno way to save the home folder?12:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:24
io_pcgdaviey it seems impossible but the both options don't work12:24
morphishberyl? no vale!12:24
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager12:24
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Davieyio_pcg, i would suggest you try to reinstall "sudo apt-get install kdevelop3"12:24
kikokos_ljl jer:x:1001:12:24
soundraykalikiana: search the web for your device ID once you get it from lsusb.12:25
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io_pcgwhy 3?12:25
phillipjosefk: im talkinga bout an actual progf12:25
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nirvdrumDoes anyone happen to have any idea why Edgy might load with a blank screen, even when using the safe graphics mode?  I'm trying to install on an AMD 64 (although the i386 version) with an ATi AIW 9600.12:25
Commander-Crowehow do I get into console mode?12:25
phillipdoes anyone know a converter gui based prog?12:25
soundraykalikiana: combine the ID with Linux as a search keyword12:25
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Commander-Croweor turn off X12:25
kalikianasoundray: which program/ command can i use to connect then?12:25
nirvdrumObviously, not being able to see anything is a bit of a hinderance.12:25
phillipi cant seem to emulate imtoo progs w. wine12:25
crimsunCommander-Crowe: ctrl+alt+F112:25
Commander-Croweso I can install the nVidia driver12:25
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crimsunCommander-Crowe: once you log in there, you'll need to execute: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop12:26
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Commander-Croweits Xfce12:26
io_pcgwell...Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:26
crimsunyes, we use gdm in Xubuntu.12:26
LjLkikokos_: does "delgroup jer" work?12:26
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Davieyio_pcg, do you have any other installer stuff running?12:27
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Davieyio_pcg, ie synaptic12:27
kikokos_ljl /usr/sbin/delgroup: `groupname' still has `jer' as their primary group!12:27
soundraykalikiana: if you manage to get the driver working, it's just a matter of setting up a connection with System-Administration-Networking12:27
SamuelDrI'd like to know where the "nm-applet" saves its configuration...12:27
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kikokos_ljl hmm so sorry i`m really new in these things12:27
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kalikianasoundray: ok, so'll try it and restart now; thank you so far :)12:28
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LjLkikokos_, "cat /etc/passwd | grep groupname", and also "cat /etc/group | grep groupname" -- shows anything?12:28
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squidlydamn it I keep getting problems with I try to down load and inst all nagios12:29
viddI installed a printer server on my computer and it works! I documented the steps I took.12:29
kikokos_ljl first: "groupname:x:1002:1001::/home/groupname:/bin/sh"12:29
SamuelDrwould it be possible to know where the "nm-applet" saves its configuration... or at least direct me on a channel where I would get suitable help, thanks12:29
viddNow Im getting ready to do the same with apache212:29
nothlitHi, can someone tell me why I get Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap", after I've installed gtk-engines-pixmap and restarted X ?12:29
LjLkikokos_, you have created a user whose name is "groupname". i'm not sure what you've been doing, but it wasn't too good.12:30
sethkSamuelDr, run it under strace, the grep for open in the output.  you'll see what files it uses12:30
LjLkikokos_, try "deluser groupname"12:30
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kikokos_ljl ok it`s done12:31
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SamuelDrthanks sethk !12:31
LjLkikokos_: now try again "deluser jer"12:31
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jvaisamueldr: maybe in "search for files" in the places part of the panel.. make a search thru the filesystem12:31
kikokos_ljl jer also doesn`t exist now12:31
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LjLkikokos_: type "delgroup jer"12:32
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chadheyas guys12:32
kikokos_ljl ok removed12:32
SamuelDrjvai, I already searched through my system for "*nm*" and "*network*" | grep manager12:32
jvaioo sorry12:33
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_spanner_If I have a process that's holding on to a file handle, but the file has been deleted on the filesystem... is there any way to get that file back? I had expected the ln command to maybe take an inode number or something like that.12:33
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LjLkikokos_: type "chown root:root /home ; chown -R jo:jo /home/jo"  (assuming your username is jo, if i got it correctly)12:33
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SamuelDrwell, gprep-ping the strace for open didn't really work... I get an awfully long list of anything... not even related to open12:34
craz4evahi guys.... I've just installed some updates just now and gnome-terminal now refused to start12:34
kikokos_ljl i think it`s done12:34
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LjL_spanner_: "lsof" will give you the node i think12:34
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sveuranyone know how i kan grant non-roots access to a drive?12:34
craz4evaanyone having the same problem?12:34
LjLkikokos_: now type "adduser jer"12:34
SamuelDrI get the exact same thing as if I only strace12:34
kitchesveur: use umask12:34
Homer_Linuxsoundray didnt work ;( still have no panels12:34
kikokos_ljl Creating home directory `/home/jer  :):)12:35
sveurkitche: how?12:35
SamuelDranyway, brb12:35
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_spanner_LjL: thanks, but what can I do with that? It seems it should be possible in theory to make a new file with that inode, and yet I can't find any way to do it...12:35
LjLkikokos_: ok, now the user should be there, and *perhaps* your own "jo" user will work again (just perhaps, the second chown command i've given you might have done the trick). try rebooting into multiuser mode12:35
deemahow come Ubuntu doesn't show the icon of a file, such an .exe, it only shows the default Ubuntu icon for that file TYPE?12:35
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kitchesveyr: man umask I m not a user of umask so I can't really tell you how to use it12:35
jvaisamueldr.. i'm searching now thru my box for nm, so far "dpkg.status.0 /var/backups 1.1MB , & it's still searchin12:36
relbsI'm trying to compile a kernel module with make-kpkg, so I unpacked it to /usr/src/modules, did a make-kpkg clean ; make-kpkg debian modules_image, but I get an error message 'The UTS Release version in include/linux/version.h \ "" \ does not match current version: \ "'12:36
relbswhat option do i need to tweak?12:36
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sethkdeema, if it knows the MIME type, it connects it with an icon.  Names, in non-toy operating systems, are irrelevant.  the name doesn't say anything about the type12:36
chadi have a logitech usb headset(earphones) i can choose and enable it in alsa mixer.. volume is up and all.. but i get no sound or errors12:36
kikokos_ljl ok but what should i write as full name after psswrd?12:36
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sveurkitche: no man entry for umask12:36
soundrayHomer_Linux: you may need to 'rm -rf ~/.gconf*' as well12:36
crimsunchad: is the usb headset selected as the default audio output device?12:36
sveurkitche: could you try to explain the basics?12:36
kikokos_ljl whatever? or sth special12:36
LjLkikokos_: the full name of the user. the system doesn't care.12:37
chadin the alsa mixer yes12:37
crimsunchad: is it specified in ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf, too?12:37
v3l0ctsveur, http://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/umask.1.asp12:37
hangfiredeema- and executables often arent executable outside of the homefolder12:37
deemasethk, can you explain that in different words? I didn't quite understand12:37
sethkchad, make sure pcm is not all the way down, both input and output12:37
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_spanner_deema: it is possible... for example you can get a preview of a jpeg or a pdf file in the icon. There's no reason that the image embedded in a .exe file couldn't be used. I imagine the reason is that most Linux guys don't have a significant amount of Win32 PE files lying around.12:38
kitchesveur: it's allows non-root users to write to a disk12:38
sethkdeema, the icon, most of the time, will be chosen according to the file's type.  The  file _name_ doesn't say anything about the type.12:38
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chadhmm.. where do i find those asound files? im a little newbie still:p12:38
kikokos_ljl ok so i reboot now and tell u after how it was:)12:38
crimsunchad: ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf12:38
sethkdeema, in windows, typically, a file named .exe is executable, and .bat is a script.  UNIX doesn't have those restrictions12:38
deemaokay what _spanner said12:38
sethkdeeem, and files don't even need to have an extension, although they can.12:38
deemathat's what I mean12:39
deemathe icon imbedded in an exe12:39
deemawhy doesn't it show THAT icon12:39
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sethkdeema, a windows exe?  completely different format12:39
chadis that in / (root) or where?12:39
LjL_spanner_: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=135000&admit=-682735245+1162424253351+28353475 - though i'm not sure you'll like the sound of it12:39
DanSchnellI am back, and this time I have pictures of my problem.  Soundray, are you here?12:39
sethkdeema, why would it show?  it's for a different o/s.12:39
jvaihe bounced?12:39
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_spanner_deema: No-one wrote the code to do it. It's probably not too hard, but I'd guess not enough demand for it12:40
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soundrayDanSchnell: for a short while, yes12:40
deemaokay. so what you're saying is that embedded icon is in .exe don't show in Linux. is there a way to display them?12:40
dredhammerso if i downgrade from edgy to dapper do i lose my home directory if its a seperate partition?12:40
deemaokay, that makes sense then. Iwas wondering if there was a way to do it12:40
DanSchnellSoundray: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/tathar902/other%20stuff/screenshots/100_0155.jpg12:40
v3l0ctdreadhammer, no12:40
deemasince I DO use WINE12:40
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deemaand it's nice to see the embedded icons12:40
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DanSchnellSoundray: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/tathar902/other%20stuff/screenshots/100_0151.jpg12:40
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dredhammerso i just pop the dvd in and tell it to install dapper?12:41
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v3l0ctdredhammer, just install but don't format your home partition12:41
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dredhammerok thanks12:41
soundrayDanSchnell: have you tried any of the vga= options?12:41
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DanSchnellSoundray, yes12:41
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sethkdeema, there are programs around to extract the icon, wouldn't be too hard to set up.  the correct question, though, is, since X windows had been around for well over 15 years before windows existed, why didn't microsoft put the icon in the correct place?12:42
DanSchnellSoundray, do you think its possible that the liveCD doesn't like my nVidia 6800 GS running in SLI12:42
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baxter_kylieHi. could anyone explain to me how ubuntu manages to automount drives? (is it autofs, ivman, etc) ? I'm trying to replicate the same in xubuntu.12:42
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LjL_spanner_: perhaps you want to try "debugfs", and then issue the command "cat <inode>", which will cat the stuff to stdout -- at least if it's a text file12:42
craz4evaanyone having problems with terminal in edgy?12:42
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kikokosljl thanks so much:)12:42
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brasileirothere's something special thing about kernel recompiling on Ubuntu?12:43
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kikokosljl now i`m in gnome12:43
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LjLkikokos: with your own "jo" user?12:43
soundrayDanSchnell: it's possible, but I haven't heard of such problems. Have you tried vga=0x31A ?12:43
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matjanhi, is there a linux app that can read chm-files (you know, those windoze help files)?12:43
_spanner_LjL: I saw debugfs... it relies on the FS being unmounted though... I'd have to kill the process that has the file open in order to umount it. Could work, but it seems unnecessarily risky12:43
kikokosljl no with jer12:43
DanSchnellsoundray, no I haven't12:43
zambatruehey guys does anyone know of california based repositories?12:43
kikokosljl jo has bad conf12:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:43
chadcrimsun: heh..ive tried to search for .asoundrc asound   cant find em12:44
_spanner_LjL: This is just something that happened to me today with an unimportant file, and I got to wondering. Nothing is at stake here :)12:44
soundrayDanSchnell: try that one. It sets a VESA mode with 1280x1024 @ 64k colors.12:44
_spanner_LjL: Thanks anyway. Still reading that forum link...12:44
v3l0ctzambatrue, dunno.  i have no clue where the us archive is12:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:44
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zambatruev3l0ct, whereever it is, i get 20ks down from it.. that sucks :(12:44
JensBHi everybody12:44
itermatjan: gnochm12:44
DanSchnellsoundray, It sets it at vesa? Or do i have to change my driver to vesa through the console?12:44
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:45
ubotugnochm: CHM file viewer for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-1 (edgy), package size 136 kB, installed size 700 kB12:45
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JensBI was using dapper, now edgy, and in both versions I have the little problem that my bootsplash screen jumps back to text mode during "Checking all file systems ...". Any ideas why this might be?12:45
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matjaniter, thanks!12:45
soundrayDanSchnell: no, you don't have to change anything except starting the kernel with that option.12:45
v3l0ctzambatrue, try without the us. at the beginning.  maybe it's faster12:45
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mepaYanchoanyone can suggest another ftpd instead of proftpd pls? since according to apt there is no such package12:46
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ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd12:46
DanSchnellsoundray, thanks.  I'll try that, be back in a bit...12:46
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sethkmepaYancho, vsftp.  secure ftp (sftp) is preferred12:46
Homer_Linuxsoundray still no joy12:46
soundraymepaYancho: fix your repositories.12:46
sethkmepaYancho, but sftp is a different protocol and uses a different client.  you should see proftp also12:46
soundray!repos | mepaYancho12:46
ubotumepaYancho: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:46
mepaYanchoand following this tutorial i can continue with sftp ? : http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10_p612:46
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mepaYanchosoundray any idea what i can do pls? newbie here :|12:47
kikokosljl r u still here?12:47
LjLkikokos: yes12:47
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soundraymepaYancho: read the pages that ubotu pointed out to you12:47
kikokosljl can i ask u one more small q?12:48
LjLkikokos, go on. if i can answer12:48
kikokosljl sso:  No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.12:48
mepaYanchoi have server distribution soundray so no gui :|12:48
sethkmepaYancho, mepaYancho no, sftp is different.  proftpd is certainly available in the repos.12:48
kikokosljl and i don`t know why12:48
sethkmepaYancho, I think someone already told you how to update your repos.12:48
NosgothGuys, there's no oficial help page for 6.10?12:48
LjLkikokos: quite normal, your new "jer" user isn't a member of the "audio" group -- or of any groups your old "jo" user was a member of, for that matter12:49
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sethkmepaYancho, you can install the gui.  the server distro isn't different, it's just a different set of packages to install initially.12:49
LjLkikokos: type "groups jo" and give me the output12:49
sethkmepaYancho, if you want the gui.  you don't need to install it if you don't want to use it on that box, of course12:49
SamuelDrI'm back12:49
SamuelDrjvai, what were you saying?12:50
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v3l0ctNosgoth, what do you mean by help?12:50
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kikokosljl ok so:  jo : jo adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin12:50
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Nosgothv3l0ct: i mean oficial help.ubuntu.com web page for 6.1012:50
brasileirothere's something special thing about kernel recompiling on Ubuntu?12:50
jvailol.. samueldr i was doin a search 4 nm thru search for files, & it pulled up alot of places12:50
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jvaii closed it, i thought u were gone12:51
oboany vim gurus in here?12:51
soundray!kernelcompile | brasileiro12:51
ubotubrasileiro: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild12:51
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LjLkikokos: ok, type "sudo -i", and then type these commands: adduser jer adm ; adduser jer dialout ; adduser jer cdrom ; adduser jer floppy ; adduser jer audio ; adduser jer dip ; adduser jer video ; adduser jer plugdev ; adduser jer lpadmin ; adduser jer scanner ; adduser jer admin"12:51
jvaisamueldr.. i'm searching now thru my box for nm, so far "dpkg.status.0 /var/backups 1.1MB , & it's still searchin12:51
v3l0ctNosgoth, nope.  there may be an unofficial guide eventually but 6.06 is the LTS so that's the help page that'll show12:51
brasileirosoundray, thanks =)12:51
jvaithat was the 1st 112:51
mepaYanchosorry for sounding dumb but i did : apt-get update and then again install proftpd and to no avail :|12:51
spakoodoes anybody of you know how to setup video server who can capture DV via firewire?12:51
TwiggyHey I'm on a fresh edgy install and for whatever reason my right alt/ctrl keys don't work, but the left ones do.  This worked before on an dapper -> edgy upgraded install.  Any ideas what could be up?12:51
LjLkikokos: ah no wait, you can't use sudo from jer. well, log in to "jo" from a console, then do that12:51
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NET||abusehi guys, having a problem playing music on xmms12:52
Nosgothv3l0ct: yeap, seems like12:52
NET||abuseusing alsa,, message says ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:862:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave12:52
Rappermasok, i just got AIGLX and beryl to work (thanks to chippy's help), and i fixed my resolution, but how do i increase my refresh rate?12:52
SamuelDrjvai, mkay12:52
LjLUbotu, please tell Rappermas about xgl12:52
kikokosljl how to log as jo in terminal?:)12:52
oboany vim gurus in here?12:52
LjLUbotu, please tell Rappermas about fixres12:52
soundraymepaYancho: is there any particular reason why you resist the suggestion to read up on ubuntu repositories?12:52
jvaii'm having issues w/ goin to & from wired - wifi, w/ nm... it's slow to do things12:52
LjLkikokos: type Ctrl+Alt+F2 - when you're finished, type Ctrl+Alt+F7 to come back here12:53
kikokosljl i don`t want to do anything wrong now12:53
mepaYanchosoundray im reading .. but im finding them hard to understand sorry :|12:53
crimsunNET||abuse: pastebin (see topic) ``cat ~/.asoundrc* && asoundconf list''12:53
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mcphailobo: just ask your question. If anyone knows, they will reply :)12:53
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oboI'm using the .vimrc file located at http://www.vi-improved.org/wiki/index.php/VimGpg to transparently edit GPG-encrypted files inside vim. This has workd on Fedora before, but won't work in Ubuntu. Kind of dissapointing.12:53
RappermasLjL: thanks for the howto12:53
LjLkikokos: actually, scrap that. just type "su - jo", it'll be easier12:53
soundraymepaYancho: ask about what you don't understand then. That way, you won't sound dumb.12:53
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mepaYanchofirst of all - what is dapper? i mean is edge dapper ?12:54
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LjLUbotu, please tell mepaYancho about dapper12:54
XtremeBaindapper is 6.06, edgy is 6.1012:54
apokryphosmepaYancho: have you checked the FAQ first?12:54
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oboE121: Undefined variable: ch_save12:54
oboE15: Invalid expression: ch_save|unlet ch_save12:54
kalikianasoundray: was it you who gave me tips about my usb modem?12:55
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soundraykalikiana: yes12:55
relbshas anyone been able to succesfully compile openafs-modules-source in edgy?12:55
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ubuntu_newbis there any packages for running apache web server and all that on Ubuntu?12:55
xerophytedoes any good GUI programming evn for gnome ??12:55
mepaYancho10x ... yes apokryphos im following a tutorial on edge :|12:55
ubuntu_newbor does that have to be installed manually?12:55
soundray!apache | ubuntu_newb12:56
ubotuubuntu_newb: lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.12:56
apokryphosmepaYancho: not the same though; the FAQ answers a lot of basic questions. It's quite good :)12:56
apokryphos!faq | mepaYancho12:56
ubotumepaYancho: faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage12:56
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kalikianasoundray: i rebooted several times with no change, i plugged out and in , removed the power... lsusb won't react when the modem is plugged in12:56
ubuntu_newbok thank you12:56
soundraykalikiana: is it possibly kaputt?12:56
azurealmy sound seems beyond repair....how would i go about reinstalling 2.6.17-10 kernel?12:56
kalikianasoundray: i don't think so because i used it before on a windows laptop12:57
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soundraykalikiana: are you plugging it into a hub or direct into the mainboard?12:57
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brasileiroI'm having problems with my cd recorder, I can't even mount them12:58
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kalikianasoundray: i used one of the backsided usb ports12:58
brasileirocdrecorder -scanbus returns nothing12:58
pianoboy3333What's the text command for lock version in synaptic?12:58
ulrikhey all wondering now in edgy. Previously I had some tool that managed my disks and their mountpoints (somewhere among admin tools). What's it called and how do I install it again?12:58
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kalikianasoundray: and the ports should usually work fine as well12:59
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ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild12:59
raghow to activate dri on ati card12:59
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brasileiroI'm having problems with my cd recorder, I can't even mount them... cdrecorder -scanbus returns nothing...12:59
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tobydoes anyone know how to install it in Edgy01:00
soundraykalikiana: I don't know what to suggest - except buying a decent modem that connects through Ethernet instead of USB.01:00
raghello friends ! how to activate dri on ati card, ati rv35001:00
LjLUbotu, please tell toby about xgl01:00
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kalikianasoundray: is there any command to see why lsusb is frozen? i can't even cancel it01:00
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ulrikis it pysdm??01:01
azurealMetaMorfoziS, would it be a bad idea to...idk...reinstall the current kernel while working it?01:01
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kikokosljl after adding all things jer restart gnome? m i right?01:01
tobyits late so i come back tomorrow01:01
funshineBearguys, help me. i upgraded my xubuntu via command line but i can't get on to my computer anmyore. please help01:01
cpk1how do you get the change log of apps with apt?01:01
LjLkikokos: yes, log out and back in01:01
MetaMorfoziSazureal > i want to build a new one01:01
LegendreWell, fwiw, Edgy works farking sweet on my IBM Thinkpad 3101:01
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LjL!apt-changelog | cpk101:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-changelog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:01
soundraykalikiana: like I say, it indicates a hardware problem. You could run 'strace lsusb' to see where exactly it hangs.01:01
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LjL!apt-listchanges | cpk101:02
ubotuapt-listchanges: Display change history from .deb archives. In component main, is optional. Version 2.59-0.3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 328 kB01:02
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cpk1LjL: thanks =)01:02
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LegendreI have a Q about wifi.. Edgy says my wireless connection is not configured, but as it happens, it's working perfectly. What's up with that?01:02
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sethkLegendre, you mean you are using it from within linux?01:03
sethkLegendre, it doesn't mean anything about the hardware, it means the o/s has (hasn't in this case) found it and set it up01:03
Legendresethk - yeah, it's working swell.. but Edgy says it's not configured or enabled01:03
kikokosljl ok i`ve got sounds in gnome01:03
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kikokosljl thank`s again01:03
kitcheLegendre: yeah I notice a bug with the network-manager with that01:03
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sethkLegendre, that would be a first.  ifconfig   (no arguments)  shows no interfaces, or only lo?01:03
Legendresethk - but it's working fine. that's the odd part..01:03
LjLkikokos: you're welcome. perhaps try to tinker less with things you shouldn't be tinkering with, next time ;-P01:04
kikokosljl should i add sth more jer?01:04
jprieurHi, I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, and after fixed dsl modem and X issues, there's still one : between GRUB and GDM, my screen displays (hardware) me a "Video mode not supported" message. I guess it comes from GRUB not using a good resolution but I don't know more, how can I fix that?01:04
sethkLegendre, try ifconfig, maybe the gui is messed up01:04
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LjLkikokos, no, i don't think01:04
Legendresethk - no, ifconfig shows a whole host of interfaces.01:04
kalikianasoundray: so at least now i get an output, but i think 'permission denied' and 'operation not permitted' won'T help too much anyway01:04
Legendrejust the gui is totally unaware of it01:04
kikokosljl ok thank u so much01:04
sethkLegendre, everything show by ifconfig (without the -a flag) is set up, so it has to be the gui.01:04
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soundraykalikiana: that's unusual. Should go away if you use sudo, though01:05
Legendresethk - if it were windows, the situation would be reversed.. which is pretty funny.01:05
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jprieurNobody to help me? :)01:06
soundrayjprieur: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, find a line beginning with #kopt, add 'vga=771', save the file, run 'sudo update-grub' and try again01:06
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azurealMetaMorfoziS, i dont understand what you're suggesting...some of your links had kind of 'infinite loops'.... would aptitude reinstall linux-server work for me in console..?01:06
jprieursoundray: thx01:07
LjLsoundray: will the vga option work with usplash?01:07
kalikianasoundray: wow, you're great - although now it freezes with a usbdev_connectinfo01:07
soundrayLjL: I think so01:07
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ltr^^^join #amarok01:07
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soundraykalikiana: thanks. Dodgy hardware...01:07
azurealwhy is there so much love for ...amarok...01:08
crimsunazureal: because it's a nice app?01:08
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kalikianasoundray: i guess i did already annoy you enough with this problem of mine; i do appreciate your effort and now i damn whoever made such a thing01:08
jprieurthank for the help, then I hope I'll don't have to get back there :)01:08
azurealnope =P01:08
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SamuelDrI found out that nm-applet tries to read some files in /etc/NetworkManager ... but there is no configuration file...01:08
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DanSchnellI am having some display problems on the liveCD, Can anyone help?  Screenshots can be found here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29087701:09
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soundraykalikiana: not to worry, glad I could be of some use.01:09
eegoreIs there a channel for linux gaminmg?01:09
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LjLDanSchnell: tried booting with the safe graphics mode option?01:10
soundraykalikiana: USB DSL modems tend to be problematic with Linux in general -- it's the manufacturers' fault.01:10
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LjL!games | eegore, don't know, but01:10
ubotueegore, don't know, but: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org01:10
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earlGreyInstalled Ubuntu edgy - everything works great except for Flash in Opera; Flash works amazingly well in Firefox (I installed from automatix2). Any ideas?01:10
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azurealcrimsun, quick question--i somehow messed up sound ability in my server edition kernel... if i booted into a different kernel should i run 'aptitude reinstall' or 'aptitude remove' then 'aptitude install linux-server' ?01:10
soundraykalikiana: Ethernet works much better.01:11
crimsunazureal: what are you referring to with "sound ability?"01:11
Chippyhey, my keyboard has some special keys, one of which has a symbol associated with it, but 3 others do not; is there a .conf or the like I could edit to associate a symbol with these special keys?01:11
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DanSchnellLjL, yup.  I've tried almost everything.  like changing driver to vesa instead of nv and vga=0x31A01:11
SonicvanaJrgalador, sucks01:11
LjL!automatix | earlGrey01:11
ubotuearlGrey: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.01:11
azurealcrimsun, sound does not work anymore....but dont worry about that... i just want to reinstall current kernel with brand new config01:11
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earlGreythanks, ubotu.01:12
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kalikianasoundray: yeah, i had never any problems with ethernet in linux. so maybe i must invest some money now.01:13
crimsunazureal: apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.17-10-server01:13
sethkDanSchnell, you are hitting it with a vertical freq it can't handle.01:13
calvarezquestion: about how many packages are in the repositories?01:13
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xSUSHiAnyone know how I can remap my keys?  I need < to be F8 and > to be Spacebar.01:13
Chippyhey, my keyboard has some special keys, one of which has a symbol associated with it, but 3 others do not; is there a .conf or the like I could edit to associate a symbol with these special keys?01:13
sethkDanSchnell, do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:13
LjL!packages | calvarez01:13
ubotucalvarez: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!01:13
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landoi need to install realplayer and the installation dialog asks me where i would like to install it to. what would be a good location01:13
sethkDanSchnell, choose the "middle" difficult level when you get to the monitor section01:13
LjLthough i guess i'll update that, edgy has more ;)01:13
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PapaLionis there an automatix for edgy yet?01:13
azurealcrimsun, i prefer aptitude...why not just "aptitude reinstall linux-image...."01:13
sethkDanSchnell, then make sure the highest resolution is one the monitor can display01:13
DanSchnellsethk, Ok.01:13
eegoreubotu: the issue is network lag01:13
LjL!automatix | PapaLion01:13
ubotuPapaLion: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.01:13
crimsunazureal: then use aptitude reinstall linux-image-2.6.17-10-server01:13
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azurealcrimsun, ty01:14
xSUSHiAnyone know how I can remap my keys?  I need < to be F8 and > to be Spacebar..01:14
luisbghow do I install the ati drivers in ubuntu?01:14
calvarezLjL, I'm not running Ubuntu right now, but I'm trying to help a friend put together a FOSS proselyting paper and I want to know an approximate number of packages available01:14
sethkeegore,   l      a             g                       ?01:14
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azurealbbl to try it out01:14
calvarezcan someone tell me how many packages are in the repos?01:14
soundray!repeat | xSUSHi01:14
ubotuxSUSHi: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience01:14
LjLcalvarez: 20208 on edgy, counting all official repositories01:14
kalikianais anyone here who can help me with a dsl usb modem?01:14
calvarezok, thx01:14
eegoreplaying UT 99 on dapper and I get horendous lag01:14
sethkxSUSHi, xmodmap can do that for you01:15
xSUSHithanks a lot01:15
eegoresethk: ^01:15
DanSchnellSethk, also I have tried gdm restart and when i try to restart, It says stopping GNOME ....[OK]  Starting GNOME ... [FAIL] 01:15
mikeymike-linuxok so....  some program in X usually asks me 'ignore/import' when i plug my digital camera in.. and i select ignore and voila my camera mounts and shows up on my desktop..... well its not doing that.... i hit ignore and nothing occurs and the camera contineus to attempt to connect to the computer..... if i hit IMPORT they open into whatever application it is that does that and i can see all my photos...... what gives? something t01:15
mikeymike-linuxo do with mount? usb? earlier today i plugged a thumbdrive into my computer and it mounted and went to the desktop.... it mounted in /media anyone know whats up?01:15
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sethkDanSchnell, for that, put your X log on the paste site (usually /var/log/Xorg.log.0)01:15
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Rappermasok, this all good, but it doesn't tell me how to set a higher refresh rate on my monitor01:16
jprieursorry but I didn't find anything biginning by #kopt in my menu.lst01:16
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sethkmikeymike-linux, the desktop is just a display.  it was always mounted in /media01:16
mikeymike-linuxi know the desktop is just a display im not dumb01:16
soundraykalikiana: ask a concrete question, like "When I connect my Castlenet USB DSL modem, lsusb freezes at usbdev_connectinfo (with strace). Any suggestions?"01:16
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sethkmikeymike-linux, well, sorry, I was just trying to help.  you seemed to be saying that earlier is was automounted somewhere other than /media, which is not true.01:16
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mikeymike-linuxah no its always /media im sure01:17
karlhi, I just dist-upgraded from dapper to edgy, it all looked good, nice new fonts, everything still worked, then I rebooted.  Now my x server is broken, as well as my wireless.  apt-get dist-upgrade again just says that a bunc of packages have been "held back" included xserver-xorg-core. any ideas?01:17
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clearzenDoes anyone know how I could control the screen brightness on my laptop when it is unplugged?01:17
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v3l0ctkarl, manually install xserver-xorg01:17
kalikianasoundray: you're right, i'll do that :)01:17
LjLkarl: do you have any third-party repositories enabled? do you have the ubuntu-desktop package installed?01:17
mikeymike-linuxsethk, sorry :] 01:18
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kalikiana"When I connect my Castlenet USB DSL modem, lsusb freezes at usbdev_connectinfo (with strace). Any suggestions?01:18
karlv3l0ct: pardon?01:18
mikeymike-linuxi guess im going to have to restart  lol.....01:18
mikeymike-linuxor use google.01:18
Chippyhey, my keyboard has some special keys, one of which has a symbol associated with it, but 3 others do not; is there a .conf or the like I could edit to associate a symbol with these special keys?01:18
karlLjL: nope, just a dapper config with s/dapper/edgy/g01:18
LjLkarl: i'd make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed. "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop", otherwise install it01:19
clearzenDoes acpi control my screen brightness on my laptop?01:19
jordanDoes anyone know the contact info for an admin @ ubuntu.com? I want to report a broken / missing link. Or should I use launchpad?01:19
tapashmm, i have problems using open gl via dri on my thinkpad t2101:19
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kitchejordan: think launchpad has a section for webiste01:19
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tapaslike freezing X :(01:19
jordankitche: Thanks, I should have checked first :)01:20
bimberijordan: i think you report bugs on the 'ubuntu-website' product01:20
karlv3l0ct: oh, gotcha, apt-get install xserver-xorg-core works by itself.01:20
v3l0ctkarl, :)01:20
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v3l0ctkarl, also follow LJL's suggestion01:21
mikeymike-linuxthis would be an automount issue im having?01:21
mikeymike-linuxdoes anyone know?01:21
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ubuntu_dae raa01:21
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jprieurOk, I still get a 'Not supported video mode' message on screen between GRUB and GDM even when adding vga=771 and sudo update-grub, any other clue?01:22
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sethkjprieur, use vga=ask.  you'll get a menu of supported resolutions at boot time01:23
sethkjprieur, or just use the default 80x25 mode01:23
ubuntu_newbif I want to install LAMP on Ubuntu, is there a package to install the whole thing?01:23
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.01:24
LjLsethk, jprieur, soundray: perhaps /etc/usplash.conf as well? or will that just decide the size of the picture, and not the actual resolution used?01:24
jprieurok sethk : does it really matters it to be written after # kopt=... in the config file?01:24
kitchejprieur: is the screen blue by chance?01:24
sethkjprieur, shoudn't, no, the # is just a comment line01:24
AlReece45I'm trying to run Half Life, I have it installed, and when I run it in OpenGL mode, either I get no sound and good fps, or laggy sound and low fps. I've narrowed down the laggy sound and low fps to esd.01:24
jprieursethk: ok, that was I was thinking01:24
soundrayjprieur: if you put it anywhere else, it'll be overridden when you next update the kernel01:24
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sethkjprieur, soundray has a good point01:25
jprieurkitche: no, I get a 'Not supported video mode' displayed by my screen (hardware)01:25
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soundraysethk, jprieur, the #kopt line has a special role in menu.lst and is not just a comment.01:25
kitchejprieur: ah one of those errors that the monitor shows01:25
jprieurkitche: yes01:25
jprieursoundray: ok, nice to know01:26
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sethksoundray, I hadn't seen that in the grub docs.  is that new?01:26
jprieursoundray: so I pu it just after # kopt... ?01:26
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soundrayjprieur, sethk: when you run update-grub, it appends everything in the #kopt line to every kernel line within the automagic list.01:26
deemahow do I run an .run file from the terminal?01:26
kitchedeema: ./<file>.run but make sure it's chmod +x01:27
deemahow do I do that?01:27
sethksoundray, oh, that's why I didn't see it.  I don't use grub-install, I install grub with the utility.01:27
jprieursoundray: so where do I add the 'vga=771'?01:27
oboany vim Gurus in here?01:27
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deemado I just type in the file?01:27
deemait said command not found01:27
mikeymike-linuxok so lsusb is showing the camera.......01:28
mikeymike-linuxBus 002 Device 012: ID 03f0:8102 Hewlett-Packard01:28
LjLjordan: you'd want to try https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-website/+bugs - make sure it's not already reported01:28
mikeymike-linuxhow do i mount it......01:28
kitchedeema: replace <file> with the filename of the file your trying to run don't forget the sh or the ./ infront01:28
soundrayjprieur: to the end of the line that begins with #kopt (unless it already contains something like vga=5, in which case you change that)01:28
ubotuless: Pager program similar to more. In component main, is important. Version 394-2 (edgy), package size 105 kB, installed size 264 kB01:28
sethksoundray, no mention of kopt in the grub doc, or the grub install doc.  probably out of date docs, I guess.01:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about more - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:28
sethksoundray, no, he isn't reinstalling01:28
soundraysethk: man update-grub01:28
sethksoundray, that's a different program than grub-install01:28
bun-bunwhat are the benefits of using less vs more?01:28
jprieurok, I try that, thanks guys01:28
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sethkjprieur, you don't need to reinstall.  just edit the file, and replace the current vga= with vga=ask01:29
soundraysethk: did I talk about grub-install? If I did, I meant update-grub01:29
sethksoundray, k01:29
mepaYanchoRunning game servers is it advised that i create a user for them .. lets say a user games ?01:29
kitchebun-bun: they do the same thing really01:29
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LjLjordan: possibly already reported as https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-website/+bug/6849201:29
bun-bunkitche# i know they do, just wondering what benefits one offers over the other01:29
sethkbun-bun, less has more features than more,01:29
kitche mepaYancho: well it's a good practice really01:29
sethkbun-bun, but they are similar, more or less  :)01:30
mikeymike-linuxok so lsusb is showing the camera....... Bus 002 Device 012: ID 03f0:8102 Hewlett-Packard... how do i mount it......01:30
bun-bunsethk# is one more secure than the other?01:30
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sethkor if you prefer, less has fewer features than more01:30
sethkbun-bun, secure?  neither has any particular security implications.01:30
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kitchebun-bun: they interact with the server they aren't like a daemon01:30
jordanLjL: Yup, that's it :)01:30
LjLjordan: hold on a second... have you clicked on "Other installation options" in the page? =)01:31
jordanLjL: No, let me try.01:31
mepaYanchois there some good tutorial on how to add users pls? :)01:31
kitchebun-bun: I mean user not server01:31
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xSUSHiubuntu definately kicks ass  and so do all of you who help make the community!01:31
bun-buni recall seeing something somewhere implying that less was more secure than more01:31
LjLjordan: i mean - choose a continent, choose a nation, choose a mirror, and "Other installation options"01:31
bun-bunbut i don't remember the details01:31
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kitchemepaYancho: sudo adduser it will run interactively01:31
deemakitche, it says ./ is a directory01:31
qchas ubuntu made anything work with 64-bit processors, and flash/window media websites???? or can you still not stream with it?01:31
mepaYanchothanks kitche01:31
LjLjordan: though that's possibly not the best way to advertize the torrent01:31
sethkbun-bun, no.  if you have an ssh connections, then it doesn't matter. if you don't have an ssh connection, than less is the least of your problems  :)01:31
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kitchedeema: are do you have ./ right next to your filename that your running?01:32
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deemagot it01:32
deemathank you01:32
bun-bunsethk# so you're implying that over an unencrypted connection there is an impact?01:32
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jordanLjL: I actually liked the previous site better ( the one now considered other install options )01:32
sethkbun-bun, no, just that over an unencrypted connection security is hopeless.01:32
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LjLjordan: *shrug* the bug is reported, anyway01:33
sethkbun-bun, there's nothing you can do with less running (or more) that you can't also do when it isn't running.01:33
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KannixHi all01:33
bun-bunsethk# i was thinking along the lines of how it processes the file that something may (or may not) happen01:33
xSUSHihi Kannix01:33
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mepaYanchoand another problem pls :) i have server files on cdrom .. how can i use them as a normal hdd? the file is a .run01:34
kitchebun-bun: they are mostly used to just scroll up and down01:34
jvaiif i set firefox to use sock5, will it use opennssh to connet?01:34
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Kannixwell, I have done it. Flattened the old SuSE and installed ubuntu 6.10.01:34
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bun-bunkitche# i'm familiar of what they do, just not how they do it01:34
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qchas ubuntu made any progress with 64-bit users?? as far as streaming flash/windows media stream websites?????01:34
bun-bunpersonally i've always used more01:34
KannixNow I have the problem I feared: How do I import the backuped maildir into evolution.01:35
grndslmless is bess01:35
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bun-bunbut i've heard arguments to use less01:35
apokryphosqc: no01:35
bun-bunand it makes me wonder why01:35
apokryphosqc: still not biarch01:35
qcapokryphos: bleh!01:35
AlHi there everyone. I recently had a problem with my wireless card and tried a few of the steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FDevice%2FAcx111 before realising i didn't have the internet so i couldn't download the stuff i needed to compile my own new version of the acx driver... or something. unfortunately i kinda deleted my /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/net/wire01:35
kitchebun-bun: you can always read the documentation for both since it will explain how both work01:35
qcwhy not??  rofl01:35
sethkbun-bun, I can't see it as an issue, really.01:35
Aland sorry for the long post01:35
KannixI have the old Maildir (used to be KMail) on DVD. Any ideas how I can import that into Evolution?01:35
soundrayqc: that's not really an ubuntu issue. Ask Adobe to support amd64 and codec vendors to publish their sources.01:35
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bun-bunsethk# that's what i thought too01:35
grndslmmore or less, they're all the same01:36
KannixI checked the settings and the only way seems to be to make a special account and set the "server" to "Maildir", give a path, and that's that.01:36
bun-bunkitche# thanks for the tip, just asked here in case someone knew the answer off the top of their head01:36
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ayushhi wat to do here01:36
jvaiif i set firefox to use sock5, will it use opennssh to connect?01:37
KannixBut I want the mail to be accessed from the same account I am using to receive more mail. And I don't want to run fetchmail and put it all in the backup Maildir, just so Evolution can access it.01:37
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kitchebun-bun: well they process the file the same way just that less allows moving backwards in a documents and forward where more will only allow forward though a document01:38
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mepaYanchoand another problem pls :) i have server files on cdrom .. how can i use them as a normal hdd? the file is a .run - I mounted but i have a dvdrom and a cdwriter - only one got mounted - and i dont know how to unmount either .. any help pls ?01:39
alcan anyone provide me with (the file or a link to the file) /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/acx/acx.ko for dapper? i kinda deleted mine by accident and i have no idea of how to get it back (i assume i can re-extract from filesystem.squashfs on the cd but i dunno how)01:39
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alalso can anyone tell me if i can install edgy over the top of dapper? i wanna keep all my settings and stuff from dapper (i've customised it somewhat and it'd be nice to keep that) but i wanna upgrade to edgy because a few pages in the help wiki say that the acx problems are sorted01:40
n1gkeGreetings once again folks.01:40
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kalikianaal: you can upgrade if you want, but there *may* be problems with foreign packages01:41
alany ideas?01:41
abovettal - do't know how well it works from the CD but I've updated several dapper systems to edgy online without too much trouble.01:41
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n1gkeI am editing a Ubuntu help page and need  an opinion on the chages/suggestions before I sumbit, is there someone who can assist with this please ?01:41
soundrayal: you can upgrade to edgy. That will take care of the acx.ko problem, too01:41
soundray!upgrade | al01:41
ubotual: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade01:41
aldo you mean upgrade as in through gksu "update-manager -c" ?01:42
ubuntu_newbI don't have the Ubuntu server disk, where can I get the files to install LAMP on Ubuntu?01:42
albecause unfortunately i have no internet access until the acx thing is sorted :S01:42
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akijikanhello all, I'm looking for some help (of course).  When I did text-install my wireless card was automatically detected, but now that my system was installed, iwconfig doesn't show my wireless card...why?01:42
kalikianaal: so you will want to use the alternate install disc for that01:42
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boricuasomeone said gaim can do irc, i dont see that01:43
ala-ha, thanks!01:43
Guest18in ubuntu edgy eft server, i am editing /etc/network/interfaces i have the changes how i want, how do i save and exit the editor01:43
ali'll check it out01:43
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soundrayal: in that case, fix the acx problem first:01:43
allol, if only it was that easy!01:43
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killownI get erros when I try to install ubuntu 6.10 erro in grub  it crash install01:43
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void^thevenin: and which editor are you using?01:43
abovettthevenin: how are you editing it?01:44
theveninwell the command i did was vi /etc/network/interfaces01:44
n1gkeboricua, Yes. gaim also does IRC.01:44
bun-bunkitche# i don't know about the really really old versions of more, but all the versions i've used allow to move backwards in a file01:44
boricuan1gke: how i dont see the option01:44
abovettthevenin: Did you use sudo first?01:44
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soundrayal: assuming the CD is mounted, run 'find /media/cdrom -name linux-image-2.6.15*deb | xargs sudo dpkg -i '01:44
theveninno i am root01:44
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akijikanhello all, I'm looking for some help (of course).  When I did text-install my wireless card was automatically detected, but now that my system was installed, iwconfig doesn't show my wireless card...any suggestions?01:45
kalikianaboricua: add a new user account and you should be able to select irc01:45
n1gkeboricua, go to TOOLS then ACCOUNTS and add irc infos01:45
dnitedoes anyone know of a good bluetooth -> cellphone connection tutorial or software or anything for edgy?? Bluetooth seems pretty set up 'out of box' .. my bluetooth mouse can connect just fine.. and my phone can find, enter a pin, and 'connect' to ubuntu.. but i find 'no services' and sending files to my computer doesn't work..01:45
abovettthevenin: try :wq01:45
theveninok thanks01:45
alsoundray: thanks for that tip. i'll check it out01:45
boricuai see01:45
jordansoundray: Are you sure that is good advice? there is an upgrade script on the CD ?01:45
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jprieursoundray, sethk : so I tried with vga=ask, it gives me 9 choices and each one fails. I tried with vga=771, then the splash thing with the progress bar appears but there's a bit offset that make I see only 1/4 of it01:46
soundrayjordan: this isn't about upgrading01:46
alsoundray, jordan: i assume the dpkg thing s the thing that lets me extract a file from the package?01:46
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kingacehello, when I try to run a program in Wine, I can't access the dvd or hard drive01:46
jordansoundray: Ok, sorry01:46
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abovettthevenin: suggest if you plan using vi it's worth reading a vi howto first - else you can get in a real mess.01:46
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soundrayal, no, it'll just reinstall the kernel package over the existing one.01:46
Spee_Derboricua: Hello, this is also n1gke, but on GAIM mode.01:46
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Spee_DerSee, easy.01:47
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boricuai see thanks i got it01:47
killownI get error when I try to install ubuntu 6.10 erro in grub  it crash install01:47
Spee_DerYour welcome. Ciao.01:47
alsoundray: sorry to be dumb, so that'll hopefully get my stupidly deleted file back and not affect anything else (settings/prefs)?01:47
dnitethevenin, if u want to learn vim (similar to vi) .. run vimtutor .. i just started learning vim and that helped a lot..01:47
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akijikanhello all, I'm looking for some help (of course).  When I did text-install my wireless card was automatically detected, but now that my system was installed, iwconfig doesn't show my wireless card...any suggestions?01:47
soundrayal: exactly01:47
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kalikianaWhen I connect my Castlenet USB DSL modem, lsusb freezes at usbdev_connectinfo (with strace). Any suggestions?01:48
theveninok thank you dnite01:48
david__can anyone help me install a compiler so i can insta;l; tarballz?01:48
alsoundray: thanks a load! this is just what i'm looking for. then i need to see if a different fix for acx is around and THEN i can use update manager to get edgy!01:48
acidtis there any mathematician in here :P01:48
jordanakijikan: Install the restricted drivers, I can't remember the package name.01:48
jprieursoundray, sethk : so I tried with vga=ask, it gives me 9 choices and01:48
jprieur  each one fails. I tried with vga=771, then the splash thing with the01:48
jprieur  progress bar appears but there's a bit offset that make I see only01:48
jprieur  1/4 of it. Do you see now a reason for that? It's not really esthetic :D01:48
jribacidt: yes, but #math is a better place to ask that :)01:48
jprieurarf sorry guys :/01:48
akijikanjordan: sorry, how would I go about that01:48
kalikianadavid__: you will want to look for gcc and cpp in synaptic :)01:49
david__I found GCC...it was also a tarball01:49
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jribubotu: tell david__ about compiling01:49
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kalikianadavid__: you will want to look for gcc and cpp in synaptic :01:49
bun-bundavid__# sudo apt-get install build-essential01:49
soundrayjprieur: sorry, I'm out of suggestions -- except: buy a better monitor :/01:49
abovettakijikan: what wireless card is it?01:49
jordanakijikan: Let me check the package name quickly and I will get back to you01:49
deemahow can I change permissions for everything inside the directory, including other directories, everything01:49
soundraydeema: chmod -R01:50
akijikanjordan: thanks01:50
david__thanks for that sudo...its installing now :)01:50
jprieursoundray: lol, it was ok before the upgrade :D Anyway, thanks for helping, I'll figure this out a day01:50
akijikanits an encore 802.11g (enlwi-sg) based on an Atheros chipset01:50
aloh, does anyone know why i can't get 1280x1024 on ubuntu? on windows it's fine so i know my gfx card and monitor support it. obviously ubuntu doesn't have the amazing drivers that windows has - it is just simply that, or do i need to do something? if i go to prefs -> change resolution i get 640, 80 and 1024 but no 1280. just wondering if it's a possibility...01:50
bun-bun!compile > david__01:50
soundray!fixres | al01:50
ubotual: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:50
al!compile | david__01:50
ubotudavid__: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:50
kalikianaal: try to select 'default'01:51
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alkalikana: i don't think there IS a default... it was set to 1024 when i installed and it only has those three options i think01:51
LjLjprieur, could you give a try to setting something like 800x600 or 640x480 in /etc/usplash.conf?01:51
david__im trying to install mplayer froma tarball01:51
jordanakijikan: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic01:51
jprieurLjL: ok I try01:51
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jprieurLjL: with vga=771 in the grub conf?01:52
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akijikanjordan: is that on the disc?01:52
alkalikana: as for simply testing it now, i have good ol' acx prolems at the mo so i can't get net access in ubuntu, hence not being able to test it as i irc...01:52
LjLjprieur: with or without...01:52
jordanakijikan: I don't know.01:52
kalikianaal: sorry, then it must be a special problem, because on my installs it usually created a 'default' entry for the highest resolution01:52
ixian_anyone try installing easyubuntu on edgy?01:52
void^david__: why?01:52
jribdavid__: mplayer is in multiverse, no need to compile01:52
LjL!easyubuntu | ixian_01:52
ubotuixian_: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ (currently down!); for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.01:52
alkalikana: thanks for the help anyway. i can live at 1024...01:52
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CorpseFeederWhat is ubuntu-desktop and is there anyway to uninstall just evolution mail by itself without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop as well?01:53
jrib!ubuntu-desktop | CorpseFeeder01:53
ubotuCorpseFeeder: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.01:53
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xerophytedoes anybody know where can i find the devhelp books for php bash and stuff i could not find with apt-cache search01:53
david__huh? multiverse? maybe i dont have that mirror?01:53
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soundrayubotu, no, easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.01:53
jribubotu: tell david__ about multiverse01:53
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penguinfanhi, i skrewed up my x after updating to efty. how can I set it back to vesa or vga or what ever fallback exist to get atleast any x again?01:54
jordanakijikan: My guess for why it worked on the install CD and not the install ( it happened to me also ) is that the install CD uses proprietary drivers ( there are probably no open source drivers for your card ) to ensure compatability when installing, but the default ubuntu install does not.01:54
ArrenLex_I have two old Linux filesystem backups laying about. Is there some easy way to compare these two filesystems and create a new filesystem which combines them, sans duplication?01:54
jribpenguinfan: you can do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', but do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?01:54
kalikianapenguinfan: do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'01:54
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penguinfanthx I will try this01:55
pumpkinheaddo i use /etc/fstab to mount another hard drive01:55
david__how do i find the multiverse repository?01:55
Kannixdid anybody ever manage to define a "maildir" for an account in Evolution? It requires a Path definition, however, the fileselect-box does not accept simple paths, you always have to chose a specific file. Now, I don't want to make one account per email I have in the maildir.01:55
soundraypenguinfan: look at the backups of your xorg.conf: 'ls -lrt /etc/X11/xorg.conf*' and copy one of them back with 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-XY /etc/X11/xorg.conf'01:55
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource01:55
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CorpseFeederok.. so ubuntu-desktop is a meta package which depends on god knows what and is safe to remove... what exactly does it do?01:56
alby the by, i'm a total 100% newbie at the whole linux thing (well i've dabbled) but i always wondered... why do we have to bloody compile everything anew? my guess would be different architectures or platforms or somethgin for some reason need things compiled differently.  is it the case that if my friend had ubuntu and compiled something it would work on my computer? or is it tied in to the computer too?01:56
penguinfansoundray: i already tried this but it seems as if the new aiglx or whatever it is doesn't like my fglrx01:56
abovettpumpkinhead: you can - not essential but make sit easier01:56
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rudaCorpseFeeder: ubuntu-desktop install gnome , openoffice, evolution and more01:56
penguinfansoundray: i try to get x atleast in basic resolution back to search for the error01:56
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pumpkinheadtks abovett01:56
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soundrayCorpseFeeder: it ensures that a standard set of packages is installed. It ensures a smooth upgrade between releases.01:56
abovettpumpkinhead: do you want it mounted every time?01:57
ArrenLex_CorpseFeeder: It exists so if someone wants to install ubuntu, instead of installing a hundred different packages, they can just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop01:57
penguinfandoes anybody know how to scroll back in irssi?01:57
rudaCorpseFeeder: gimp, and many crap software01:57
clophi, it seems like the gnome bittorrent client has a problem in edgy -- if i try to open two torrents, on the second one, it says "socket in use" and doesn't download anything... any fixes for this?01:57
killownwhy ubuntu 6.10 install crash in grub install?01:57
rudaCorpseFeeder: it's safe to remove ubuntu-desktop. It's removed when you remove openoffice01:57
lllloohi folks01:57
LjLDextorion: successful01:57
DextorionLjL: Thank you01:57
killownI record iso in 8X01:57
jribpenguinfan: page up01:58
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llllooany one here have experience with the Mplayer plugins for the browser01:58
CorpseFeederok.. I want to keep open office, so this means I cannot remove ubuntu-desktop? Is that right?01:58
LjLCorpseFeeder: no, it's not01:58
penguinfanjrib: thx01:58
llllooin dapper01:58
killownubuntu live is very heavy01:58
sethkCorpseFeeder, you can uninstall only the pieces you don't want, but why bother?01:58
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llllooi was able to load embedded videos with Mplayer01:59
LjLsethk: well, some of them do take up space01:59
sethkkillown, yes, there are other live cds that are less heavy, if you need one.01:59
llllooin edgy it just stays white01:59
jordanal: There are differences between different distributions, like what certain files are called and what versions are installed and where, when you run ./configure it looks at your system to see how it is set up and compile the binary accordingly, so if you compile something for Ubuntu, it likely won't work in Fedora.01:59
killownsethk, but I say ubuntu 6.10 install01:59
sethkLjL, yes, but space is so cheap these days.  if you need the space, sure.01:59
penguinfanjrib, kalikiana : i guess you meant dpkg-regconfigure xserver-xorg-core?01:59
killownsethk, crash install in grub01:59
aljordan: but ubuntu works with ubuntu (same version), right?01:59
llllooanyone got suggestions01:59
jordanal, Yes.02:00
jribpenguinfan: I've always used it as xserver-xorg02:00
aljordan: i.e. it's just as one would expect an exe not to work in linux. different platform = different way of executing and blah02:00
sethkkillown, I'm not following you.  what are we talking about?02:00
killownit send bug reportr02:00
theveninis nano the same as vi or vim02:00
jribthevenin: no02:00
theveninhow do they differ?02:00
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killownsethk, I m trying install ubuntu 6.10 but it crash in grub02:00
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penguinfanjrib: strange this package was not even installed02:00
aljordan: thanks. pretty much what i thought, just kinda annoyed there aren't precompiled versions for popular distros, but i suppose that would take a long time as there are probably many popular distros02:01
theveninbecause i just used nano to edit /etc/network/interfaces and i reset and it works02:01
jribpenguinfan: that could be the source of your problem :)  Check for ubuntu-desktop too02:01
killownafter send bug report and install stop02:01
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jribthevenin: vim is just a different editor02:01
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jordanal, sort of, to be honest I don't know much of the specifics, you might try asking on #ubuntu-offtopic as this isn't really a support question.02:01
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aljordan: cool. sorry :) and i think i know enough now anyway!02:02
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jordanal, no problem :)02:02
killownsethk, you has ubuntu 6.10?02:02
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sethkthevenin, different program, similar purpose02:02
kalikianapenguin-fan: the command i suggested is right, i thought i must be installed in any case02:02
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sethkkillown, yes, sure.  any error message?02:02
VR_hey all, im having trouble with repos. they're kinda slow for me. the security ones at least. i'm not sure if i can use a mirror.02:02
jordanal, It sounds like an interesting conversation, so I might ask it in offtopic myself.02:03
killownI dont remember02:03
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darwin_I upgraded to edgy now my gnome seems to logoff when I don't use it for a while is that a new feature?02:03
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kalikianaLast attempt this night: When I connect my Castlenet USB DSL modem, lsusb freezes at usbdev_connectinfo (with strace). Any suggestions?02:03
killownI install ubuntu 5.10 and upgrade for ubuntu  edgy02:03
lonran_what can be the reason why the computer turns sudenly off like when the cable is unplugged? it only happens when i am using ubuntu, not windows02:04
abovettdarwin_: is you screensaver kicking in?02:04
jprieurLjL: with 800*600 in usplah.conf, it's ok when halting the system (I have the centered ubunto logo + progress bar) but on startup there's still the offset02:04
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LjLjprieur: offset...? i must have missed some part, i was left at monitor-says-mode-is-not-supported02:05
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jprieurLjL: using vga=771 is the #kopt line, I don't have the screen message, I have the splash screen but there's a big offset (the top left corner of the splash screen is located at the middle of the screen)02:06
killownsethk, How i do to install packages of cdrom ubuntu edgy in my box ubuntu breezy?02:06
darwin_yes it is02:06
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Tim90hey guys i cant run02:06
david__i tried to search for mplayer with synaptic and it only came back with kmplayer...is that the same?02:06
jprieurLjL: I don't have this offset when halting the system02:06
Tim90sh ./runLime.sh02:06
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LjLjprieur: uhm, then try with 800x600 in usplash.conf but without the vga option perhaps02:07
jribdavid__: no, you don't have multiverse02:07
jribdavid__: pastebin your sources.list if you aren't sure why and we can help02:07
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lostboyzi upgraded xubuntu but now when i try to start my computer it stalls and goes to a blinking underscore, any ideas what the problem may be?02:07
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jprieurLjL: already tried, the splash is displayed when halting but I get the screen message back on startup02:07
jordanlonran_: It may be that your fans aren't working in ubuntu as the BIOS won't let the machine get too hot and shuts it down to prevent overheating ( just a guess )02:07
david__ok now im confused, how do i get multiverse? i read the things ppl told me02:07
abovettdarwin_: there's an option to tell the screensaver not to lock the screen: can't remember where exactly but I can look if you like.02:07
LjLjprieur: then i don't know :\02:07
Tim90Im trying to install lime wire but, sh ./runLime.sh dont work02:08
LjLUbotu, please tell david__ about multiverse02:08
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david__it doesnt tell me02:08
darwin_yea it's not set to I saw that02:08
Crescendo_Edgy Eft's response time seems a noticeably slower than Dapper Drake... am I imagining things?02:08
jprieurok LjL thx anyway ;) that's not big deal, solution will come a day02:08
jribdavid__: pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list02:08
darwin_and it's a full logoff02:08
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lonran_jordan, it could be, compared with windows, the fans are working much less. how do i fix that?02:08
abovettdarwin_: then I'm not sure - sorry.02:08
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darwin_ok I just thought I'd ask02:09
kalikianaCrescendo_: you mean with a certain program?02:09
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kalikianaCrescendo_: i don't think it's slower in general02:09
Crescendo_kalikiana, no, altogether - the interface.  Scrollbars.02:09
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Crescendo_Moving windows around.  Pressing buttons.02:09
VerithraxHm, how do I enable bitmap fonts on X in Edgy? dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig doesn't give me the option to do so anymore.02:10
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Tim90What does this mean  ./runLime.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")02:10
kalikianaCrescendo_: i think it varies, sometimes it's slower, but i don't feel a difference compared to dapper02:10
alexrusselljordan: remember how 'soundfly' or something gave me a command to run to refresh my kernel as i'd accidentally deleted a file: find /media/cdrom -name linux-image-2.6.15*deb | xargs sudo dpkg -i ? i've just had a little look on my original dapper cd (i assume this is the 'cdrom' he's talking about?) and can find no such file. the big installation image is in cd\casper\filesystem.squashfs02:10
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alexrusselljordan: will this still be okay, or do i change the name to the file? sorry if you have no idea, i can't find the guy who originally tole me the thing, was just wondering if you knew (btw a few mins ago i was the al guy)02:11
ProN00banyone got an idea when gaim beta4 will come to edgy ?02:11
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VR_hey all, im having trouble with repos. they're kinda slow for me. the security ones at least. i'm not sure if i can use a mirror.02:11
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jordanalexrussell: I don't know :(02:12
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ProN00bVR_, i heard you can02:12
alexrusselljordan: cool. thanks anyway02:12
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ProN00bVR_, if you aren't paranoid i am even sure you can02:12
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jordanalexrussell: Actually I may know02:12
alexrusselljordan: ooh, go on... :)02:12
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ProN00banyone got an idea when gaim beta4 will come to edgy ?02:13
cynicalProN00b: theres a deb file floating around in the forums already02:13
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ProN00bcynical, yeah, and i could build it myself02:13
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pumpkinhea1how can i get synaptic to recognize me as superuser02:13
jordanalexrussell: I think you need to use the alternate install CD02:13
ProN00bcynical, but when is it coming to the official repos ?02:13
cynicalah, no idea02:13
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hiffywoa. What every happened to the tty's in 6.10? I press ctrl-alt-f# and nothing happens02:14
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jribpumpkinhea1: it should prompt you for your password02:14
hiffy*ever happened02:14
pumpkinhea1it's not... :(02:14
ryanakcawhat package provides libgobject-2.0?02:14
alexrusselljordan: ahh i had a feeling that might be the case. well i'm downloading the edgy alternate cd now so i can do the "offline upgrade" that it promises, so i may as well just do that. cheers for the help!02:14
kalikianapumpkinhea1: then do 'gksudo synaptic'02:14
jordanhiffy: I have the same problem, I think it has to do with what they did with the new upsplash.02:14
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lostsyncanyone got any ideas on how to get my clock to actually display the proper time?  the panel applet crashes any time i try to use it to correct it.02:14
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sethkhiffy, hasn't changed, you must have clobbered your config somehow during the install.02:15
VR_ProN00b: how can i?02:15
mygodI can't install netbeans  there are more segment errors02:15
sethklostsync, you can use ntp-update, but it shouldn't crash.02:15
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hiffysethk: There wasn't anything to clobber. I just clicked through everything02:15
pumpkinhea1kali ok that did it02:15
ProN00bVR_, find a mirror and change it in your sources.list file02:15
jordansethk: On my machine, the tty's only work when I don't use the Edgy upsplash.02:15
VR_ProN00b: i'm not sure how.02:15
sethkhiffy, I didn't mean you did something wrong, I mean during the install something went wrong02:15
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sethkjordan, that's bizarre.02:15
pumpkinhea1one more thing, in terminal i type su root, give pw and access denied ???:-/02:16
VR_ProN00b: i know i have to edit the sources.list, but i dont know which part i need to change.02:16
sethkjordan, I"m trying to imagine how that can happen.02:16
lostsyncsethk, gnome's applet crashes...it's been fixed on gnome's end but ubuntu hasn't got the fix in the repos yet for whatever reason according to bugzilla02:16
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hiffysethk: :P. Sorry, didn't mean to sound defensive.02:16
sethklostsync, ok, then ntp-update will work for you, most likely.02:16
ProN00bVR_, the things that look like urls ^^02:16
jordansethk: I am on a mac though so it's probably Apple's incomplete BIOS emulation.02:16
kalikianapumpkinhea1: type just su to get root02:16
sethkhiffy, I didn't take it that way.02:16
pumpkinhea1did that too02:16
lostsyncsethk, i used ntp-update but after a reboot it sets the time back to what i guess is UTC02:16
sethkjordan, hmm ...02:16
VR_ProN00b: ha, yes, so even the "security" ones?02:16
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kalikianapumpkinhea1: then maybe you did not create a root password?02:16
sethklostsync, I guess you can't set the clocks time zone, either, or it will crash.02:17
pumpkinhea1no i didn't, just a user pw, how do i do it?02:17
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abovettpumpkinhea1: have you tried sudo -s02:17
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hiffyDapper seems to have gone a bit more smoothly last time.02:17
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pumpkinhea1ok cool kali thanks02:18
lostsyncsethk, would installing ntpd help?  <= 6.06 had a time synchronize at boot, i'm guessing ntpd was what was doing it?02:18
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pumpkinhea1have to figure out why this works this way later02:18
sethkhiffy, I always, always, wait a couple of weeks after a release.02:18
sethklostsync, correct, yes, but it would also probably use utc, if ntp-update did02:18
OnashiI have an Nvidia card, what's the name of the driver package that I need?02:18
jvaiu ppl r trailbazers02:18
OnashiPropreitery ones02:18
jordansethk: Do you think it is worth a try to have hiffy disable upsplash and see if that helps like it did for me?02:19
hiffysethk: Do they backport updates to the distro ISO's often? My distro-upgrade maneuver completely flopped; this is me trying through the cd.02:19
jvaiisnt it too soon for breezy?02:19
ProN00bVR_, i heard you can as the packages are signed now02:19
sethkjordan, yes.  I don't understand what's going on, so I can't be sure it isn't a factor.  and it's an easy thing to test.02:19
kalikianapumpkinhea1: do 'sudo passwd root' i think02:19
alexrussellsethk: i was just about to ask. it seems to many people are having a few minorish problems in edgy, do you (and others?) recommend i wait a little bit before installing it? i'm not mch of a linux guy so i probably won't know how to solve much of anythgin that may happen to me. i'm currently on dapper and other than wireless it's all good for me.02:19
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Yanchoanyone has an idea on which package i need to install for this one pls? : The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.102:19
hiffyjordan: always worth a try; I'm unfamiliar with the mechanism that enables ttys.02:19
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VR_ProN00b: i see. and the mirrors are listed someplace in the wiki, right?02:19
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sethkalexrussell, yes, not because of anything specific, just because of the normal just released things.  This is a large system and no matter what, things come up.02:20
jordanhiffy: It is a kernel parameter, but I am no good at helping people with grub ( I use lilo )02:20
ProN00bVR_, yeah, i think so02:20
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Tim90What does this mean >?./runLime.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")02:20
cynicalalexrussell: I've read that some people who installed software via automatix had issues after upgrading and that the automatix team was working on preventing it in future releases02:20
hiffyjordan: oy vey.02:20
alexrussellsethk: yeah. to be honest i probably wouldn't normally wanna upgarde for a few weeks, it's just that wireless is my only access to the internet so i may be forced into it by stupid acx stuff02:20
cynicalalexrussell: but personally I didn't have a single problem (maybe I was one of the few..)02:21
c_lisphow can I change the theme background of my pc booting up ubuntu?02:21
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sethkalexrussell, well, then you are taking a risk that you understand, which is perfectly ok.02:21
VR_ProN00b: thanks02:21
abovettTim90: Sounds like there's a bug in the runLime.sh script!02:21
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alexrussellcynical: interesting. i'm currently downloading the edgy alternate cd so i can do an offline upgrade (my internet's out at the mo) so you think that'll go alright?02:21
sethkcynical, many people don't have problems.  Most, in fact, although I can't prove that of course.02:21
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lib8264qhello channel02:22
alexrussellsethk, cynical: i'll probably just go for it. no doubt you'll see me back in a few days if i had any problems with it! :D02:22
jordansethk: It is a kernel parameter, but I am no good at helping people with grub ( I use lilo )02:22
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cynicalsethk: yeah I've been wondering about that myself.  I havent seen a single problem that everyone is having02:22
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hiffysethk: heh. We've got enough anecdotal evidence to fill a book - there's even a /. story.02:22
sethkjordan, you do essentially the same thing with grub, only in /boot/grub/menu.lst, and on the same line as the kernel name02:22
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gubluntushould i be using my machine at all during a dis-upgrade?02:22
ubuntu_newbok now I'm on my Ubuntu system02:22
DigitalNinjaI've got an EPoX 6100 motherboard with a nvidia 6100 video card built in. I added a NX7600GT nvidia card. When I look at the Xorg.0.log file it says I have two GPU's. Shouldn't it say I only have one?02:22
ubuntu_newbI just installed LAMP on Ubuntu\02:22
ubuntu_newbwas easy as hell02:22
cynicalalexrussell: ha, I upgraded via the net so I'm sure you wont have any trouble upgrading from the cd, gl tho!02:23
sethkhiffy, yes, indeed, but remember that, on a help channel, you find people who need help.  :)02:23
ToCoHello good people! I'm first time using IRC and for first time trying to install ubuntu, and ofc i got stuck :-) may i ask here my questions?02:23
ubuntu_newbnow I can't configure my passwords and all02:23
alexrussellcynical: cheers02:23
jordansethk: In lilo I add the line "append=splash"02:23
sethkhiffy, so statistically it doesn't prove anything, either way.02:23
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ubuntu_newbI can't find where to put files02:23
hiffysethk: details! And, hence the anecdotal evidence tagline.02:23
sethkjordan, in grub, you don't use append=, you just put    splash     at the end of the kternl line.02:23
jordansethk: To turn it on at least02:23
ubuntu_newbwhere the apache's httpd.conf file is02:23
janoq wea pasa aca02:23
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sethkhiffy, yes.02:23
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sethkhiffy, and I'm not really disagreeing with you, just saying that the magnitude of the problem is unknown02:23
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ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)02:24
janohellow my lidy02:24
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abovettToCo: what do you want to know?02:24
lib8264qwhat is a good  gui to manage a lamp install ?02:24
gubluntuis there a edgy channel?02:24
alexrusselljordan, sethk: talking about grub. ubuntu helpfully added grub and set it up so that i had ubuntu forst, then a couple more ubuntus and then finally windows. i'd like to make it so that windows is at the top (i.e. timeout default) is it simple enough? if i do it in the boot menu i'd have to edit the commands as far as i can see02:24
Tim90abovett: thanks02:24
ubuntu_newbthat's what I need to02:24
ubuntu_newba gui to manage my lamp install02:24
hiffysethk: Oh well.02:24
sethkalexrussell, you just move it to the top in the file.02:24
ubuntu_newbI just installed lamp on ubuntu?  What is a good control panel/gui to use for configuring it?02:25
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sethkalexrussell, before the block for what is currently the first, as you intuited.02:25
alexrussellsethk: the /boot/whatever file you just mentioned to jordan?02:25
viddwhat is the command to find your ip address?02:25
sethkalexrussell, he was asking how to add a kernel parameter in grub, and I said add it to the end of the line that specifies the kernel02:25
sethkvidd, ifconfig02:25
ubuntu_newbjust go to http://whatsmyip.org02:25
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ToCoabovett, im trying to install ubuntu on a computer with only 128 mb of ram. it hangs when i run that "install" icon on desktop. so i managed to find that i need to download Alternate version of Ubuntu, but cant find anywhere link to it. found some for 6.06 (if im not mistaken) and ubuntu is 6.10. can you provide me a link to file which i need to download?02:26
alexrussellsethk: but if i wanna move windows to the top of the list i do it in /boot/grub/menu.lst ? (the filename pretty much gives me a huge yes to that question but it's worth making sure!)?02:26
sethkubuntu_newb, that's to find out your public address if you are behind a NAT box.  I was telling him how to display the machines real address.02:26
sethkalexrussell, right, that's the file.02:26
jordansethk: So Tell him how to delete the splash parameter temporarily at boot ( I think grub can do that )02:26
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abovettToCo: Hold on a sec- I'll just check...02:26
ubuntu_newboh you mean his local IP on the network?02:26
zecamarada Algum ae j teve problemas com UTF-8 no BRoffice??02:27
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sethkjordan, I don't remember the kernel switch for it.02:27
lib8264qthink you need the alternitive install text based installer02:27
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jordansethk: I think it is just splash02:27
Admiral_Chicago!it > zecamarada02:27
ubuntu_newbI have LAMP running on my ubuntu machine now but I don't know how to set everything up02:27
sethkjordan, k02:27
ubuntu_newbI have no control panel02:27
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LjLUbotu, please tell zecamarada about pt02:27
ubuntu_newbcould someone please help?02:27
LjLAdmiral_Chicago: that wasn't italian :P02:28
ubuntu_newbI want to use my own web server for testing purposes02:28
Commander-Crowecrimsun thanks for the help I got it to work02:28
quintinubuntu_newb: control panel?  lame.  just start digging through the documentation and learning your way around.02:28
Yanchoanyone has an idea on which package i need to install for this one pls? : The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1 - from where to get glibc-2.1 -- doesnt exist in apt02:28
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zecamarada!br > zecamarada02:28
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quintinubuntu_newb: advise changing root mysql password as first thing you do02:28
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ubuntu_newbhow do I do that?02:28
hiffyzecamarada: Duvido que voce va ter sorte aqui02:28
viddubuntu_newb, im acually doing it now, and making a write up02:28
sethkYancho, I'll check the package, but that library is used for virtually every program on the box.02:28
hiffyzecamarada: por acaso nao havera um #ubuntubr?02:28
hiffyou pt, enfim.02:29
ubuntu_newbvidd, what do you mean?02:29
Psi-JackHeh. LAMP?02:29
quintinubuntu_newb: google is your friend.02:29
Yanchoubuntu_newb - me new too : but i went on this tutorial : http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.1002:29
LjLhiffy: there is both02:29
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.02:29
jordanquintin: RTFA type comments aren't really apropriate here.02:29
akijikananyone: I need help creating a 1440x900_75 modeline for my monitor02:29
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Admiral_ChicagoLjL: opps02:29
bazzi have some files (directories really) that i'd like to keep in a big encrypted block (file).  ideally i could mount and retain the current directory structure under the mount point.  looks like dm_crypt is the way to go but i can't find any good docs on how to do this, any pointers?02:29
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zecamaradaI'm in #ubuntu-br02:29
sethkYancho, it's renamed to libc on disk and in the package manager02:29
hiffythere you go. Have fun.02:29
Yanchosethk what you mean? is there any way i can check if it really exists pls ?02:29
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viddubuntu_newb Im writing a document on how to set up apache02:29
Yanchoa okis :)02:29
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sethkYancho, sure,  ls -l /lib/libc*02:30
Psi-JackHeh. And here I am, messing around with Roxen. :)02:30
ubuntu_newbwell it's already installed but I don't know how to set up databases and users and all that02:30
YanchoPackage libc is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:30
YanchoThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:30
Yanchois only available from another source02:30
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quintinubuntu_newb: might try phpmyadmin02:30
vidd<ubuntu_newb> thats what im documenting02:30
LjLbazz: type "encrypted filesystem site:help.ubuntu.com" into google02:30
sethkYancho, the package name is libc6, not libc02:30
Yanchoa oki :)02:30
sethkYancho, but that has nothing to do with the ls command I gave you02:30
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abovettToCo: have a look at http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ and scroll down to the Alternate section02:31
lib8264qcan someone tell me what extension is after the /etc/apt/preferences file02:31
sethkYancho, the ls command was to show the primary file of that package, which is libc.so.#  (# is 5 or 6 usually)02:31
quintinubuntu_newb: read the mysql documentation.  to get started, try 'create database test; use test; grant all privileges on test.* to user@localhost identified by 'gandalf''02:31
sethklib8264q, none02:31
Yanchoa oki sethk .. i have it infact :|02:31
ubuntu_newbWhat is the default root password on mysql when you first install LAMP?02:31
sethklib8264q, extensions are unnecessary in unix, although they are allowed as names02:31
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akijikancan someone help me with modelines for xorg.cong?02:31
Yancholibc-2.4.so etc02:31
quintinubuntu_newb: there genereally isn't a root pw for mysql.  that's why I advised changing it02:31
Yanchoerm so how can i install this package pls ? :S02:32
vidd<ubuntu_newb> got to www.linux.org/lessons/advanced/index.html02:32
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bazzLjL: thanks :)02:33
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vandit2k7Hi I am having problems with my ATI driver can anybody help\02:33
viddi have printer set up02:33
gubluntushould i be using my machine at all during a dis-upgrade?02:33
sticazzivandit2k7, what's the problem?02:33
sethkYancho, right.  now, there are two glibc versions that you typically need, because some programs only work with the older glibc (version 5)02:33
morphishi can just dump  /var/cache/apt/archives/* , right?02:33
viddthe local machine can print to it, the XP machine can print to it, but my linux laptop cant02:34
sethkYancho, I forget what the equivalent of v5 is in the 2.X notation02:34
bazzLjL: hmm, although this seems to require knowing how much data i want apriori.  ideally i'd like to be able to copy and delete and have the file grow and shrink accordingly02:34
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sethkYancho, the package has libc5 in it.  might be libc5, or that might be just part of the package name02:34
TIger_ITSomebody know how tell to hdparm ... Ive udma mode!!!02:34
Yanchosethk : im following this tutorial - maybe it can help :S http://tjw.org/etded/02:34
viddI installed gnome-cups-manager02:34
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ubuntu_newbok I used phpmyadmin to change my root password for mysql02:34
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ubuntu_newbI figured that part out.02:35
Railerhey what is the apt-get command that checks if you already have a progam installed?02:35
TIger_IThdparm.......... is set in udma2 :(02:35
ubuntu_newbnow to find my files on an ubuntu system02:35
LjLbazz, i've never really done that. you're a bit on your own i'm afraid, unless someone else chirps in. try #ubuntu-offtopic as well02:35
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ToCogood night to everyone!02:35
bazzLjL:  okay, thanks02:35
gubluntuis there a edgy channel?02:35
sethkbazz, I don't know of a program that uses a dynamic block for that purpose.  good idea, but I don't know whether it exists.02:35
TIger_ITubuntu_newb:  use finde02:35
TIger_ITubuntu_newb:  use find02:35
ubuntu_newbwhere would my user accounts be created for LAMP?02:35
rimadso ubuntu is using apt to keep itself up to date right?02:35
rimadcan yum be used?02:35
iteryum ugh02:35
iteryum takes 5 mins to tell you packagename isn't available02:36
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bazzsethk: hrm, so i pretty much have to have a fixed size huh?02:36
TIger_ITSomebody know how tell to hdparm ... Ive udma7 mode!!!  please!02:36
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ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:36
rimadi use fedora for my ...server purposes02:36
ryanakcawhat package provides libgobject-2.0?02:36
rimadand wanted ubuntu on my laptop02:36
sethkbazz, as far as I know, yes.  could be something recent that I don't know about, though.02:36
rimadi use yum for fedora ;)02:36
sethkbazz, otherwise, that's a good thing to write if you have time on your hands.  :)02:36
akijikancan someone help me with modelines for xorg.conf?02:36
LjL!find libgobject | ryanakca02:36
ubotuPackage/file libgobject does not exist in edgy02:36
sethkrimad, as a practical matter, I'd say no.  if you want ubuntu, use dpkg.  dpkg is really very easy to use.02:37
TIger_ITI need some support.........02:37
bazzsethk:  okay, thanks, wish i did have the time02:37
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deforamtiveWhere are the startup scripts?02:37
deforamtiveThere appears to be no rc.conf02:37
Yancho!find libtermcap.so.2 | Yancho02:37
ubotuPackage/file libtermcap.so.2 does not exist in edgy02:37
ryanakcaLjL: I've looked on packages.ubuntu.com and in apt-cache... and it's a dependency for amarok, according to http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod#Artwork_not_working02:37
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LjLryanakca: well, the bot is lying. look at libglib2.0-0 and -dev02:38
LjL!msg the bot02:38
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)02:38
deforamtiveHow do I disable the gdm deamon?02:38
ryanakcaLjL: was that for you or me?02:39
ryanakcaLjL: kk, ty02:39
Dextoriondeforamtive: /etc/init.d/gdm stop02:39
LjLryanakca: what?02:39
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gubluntudeformative, you want to disable gdm from starting on boot? or just stop it?02:39
ryanakcaLjL: /msg the bot02:39
deforamtiveDextorion,  no I mean disable it in the startup script,  I am assuming from that that init.conf is the startup script.02:39
deforamtiveStop it from starting.02:39
iterdeformative: update-rc.d -f gdm remove02:39
LjLryanakca: it was for yancho actually02:39
Dextoriondeforamtive: what iter said :)02:40
MegaqwertyI keep getting this error: can't find swap space signature anyone know how to fix that?02:40
deforamtiveAlright,  thankyou.02:40
iterDextorion: also there are runlevels in debian02:40
vandit2k7Hi I have problems with ATI driver..can anybody help please?02:40
Megaqwerty*"can't find swap space signature"02:40
sethkMegaqwerty, mkswap, but be sure you are pointing at swap, not file space02:40
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gubluntuvandit2k7, just ask02:40
gubluntuvandit2k7, if someone can help, theyll answer02:40
ryanakcaLjL: ah, kk02:40
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iterDextorion: and scripts for the runlevel are in /etc/rcN.d02:40
YanchoLjL if it is there then why cant my system find it? :S02:40
sethkMegaqwerty, dangerous command, if you use the wrong /dev/hd##, you might clobber a file system02:40
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Dextorioniter: uhm.. do you mean deforamtive ? :p02:41
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MegaqwertyDoes anyone have a better (safer) way?02:41
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Dextorioniter: ;) ;)02:41
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sethkMegaqwerty, there are gui tools you can use.  you should find a disk manager tool on your menus02:41
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ryanakcahow do I uninstall kde4base ?02:41
gubluntuapt-get remove kde4base02:42
gubluntuif its a package02:42
Megaqwertysethk: gnome partition manager?02:42
ryanakcahow do I uninstall kde4base ? (yes, I have been sudo apt-get --purge remove kde4base )02:42
vandit2k7Hi I installed ATi driver from the add/remove but when screen saver starts running its working for a while but then it kicks me out and logs me off but doesn't crash gnome or xserver just logs me off02:42
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vandit2k7what do  I do?02:42
sethkMegaqwerty, sounds reasonable.  I use kde so I can't check it easily.02:42
LjLYancho, the fact that the bot lists it (which it doesn't, actually) doesn't mean you have it installed02:42
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gubluntuubotu tell vandit2k7 about ati02:43
Megaqwertysethk: ah. I think the real name is gparted02:43
gubluntuvandit2k7, use that howto02:43
jordanvandit2k7: Does it bring you back to the GDM?02:43
ryanakcagubluntu: tried that02:43
YanchoLjL is there a way to check where each file is in which package? so i can install the package pls ?02:43
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LjLUbotu, please tell Yancho about apt-file02:43
vandit2k7jordan yes it just logs me out like I hve to type my user name and password02:43
LjLYancho: i think your best bet is libncurses5-dev02:43
gublunturyanakca: whats the output?02:43
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Yanchogreat LjL :) ill do what u told me .. many thanks02:44
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ryanakcagubluntu: forget, tried that about a week ago02:44
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gublunturyanakca: try again :-D02:44
LjLUbotu, please tell Yancho about packages02:44
gubluntusudo apt-get remove kde4base02:44
LjLYancho: those are other possibilities. packages.ubuntu.com is handy02:44
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ryanakcagubluntu: I'm trying to rinstall kubuntu-desktop, but I can't install it with kde4base remnants kicking around02:44
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ubotuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info02:45
gublunturyanakca: try remove again, and then tell me what it ouputs02:45
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ryanakcagubluntu: ok, it's uninstalled, but it left remnants..02:45
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gublunturyanakca: msg me the output02:46
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ryanakcagubluntu: it has been uninstalled since last weekend.. but, it's dependencies or something is left kicking around02:46
abovettI'm new to IRC - can someone recommend where to learn more about using it effectively?02:46
abovettI'm having trouble following everything!02:47
Falstiusabovett: the only important thing to know is don't feed the trolls :)02:47
jordanvandit2k7: If it is just a black screen asking you for your password then you need to go to System -> preferences -> screensaver and uncheck the option to lock the screen.02:47
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ryanakcaabovett: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom ... go to the transcripts and class one :)02:47
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abovettryanakca: Thanks02:47
azureali broke sound, and reinstalling my kernel didnt help... why!?02:48
kingacehello, i'm trying to use dvd-decrypter and dvd-shrink under wine, but both of them "can't detect any devices"02:48
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Railerhow can I check if I have a package already installed?02:48
jribRailer: apt-cache policy package_name02:49
sethkRailer, easy way is to run synaptic, and search for the package.02:49
Emesspackage -v ?02:49
sethkRailer, there are several ways, as you see02:49
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YanchoLjL this packages.ubuntu.com is really cool :) big thanks for it02:49
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:50
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Railerdoes synaptic see all packages including ones installed through apt-get?02:50
LjLRailer: yes02:50
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ubotugparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php02:50
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about snackbot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:50
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ubuntu_newbok found my file directory02:51
ubuntu_newbit's var/www02:51
Peloanyone know what happened to the disk manager type thing app that was in admin in dapper ?02:52
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Poseidonhi there where can i download the new ubuntu 6.10?02:52
PeloPoseidon,  www.ubuntu.com02:52
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TIger_ITSomebody know how tell to hdparm ... Ive udma7 mode!!!  please!02:52
PeloPoseidon,  or you can get a torrent02:53
Megaqwertysethk: Thank you for your help. I did it!02:53
MegaqwertyPoseidon: Do you already have Ubuntu?02:53
Poseidonno i just want to http link02:53
Railerone more question, then off I go, what happens if I "apt-get install" something that I all ready have installed ?02:53
cynikalRailer: then it will tell you that you already have it installed02:54
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Railercool thanks02:54
Kannixjust in case somebody else is interested: I solved the "how to import your backup mail from KMail (or any other mailer) into Evolution" problem using the "archivemail" tool.02:54
bimberiRailer: if there's a new version it will update, otherwise it'll do nothing02:54
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PeloRailer,   you'll get a msg that you are already up to date on that package I beleive02:54
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nbh758I am having problems with Amaya browser02:56
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nbh758It blinks on then gone02:56
nbh758any ideas?02:57
e_machinistAm I missing a repository? GnomeSword is at version 2.1.7 in the edgy reps., but only at 2.1.5 in the dapper reps. Am I missing a backport rep or something?02:57
Pelonbh758,  uninstall, completely,  then re-install02:57
MegaqwertyDoes anyone know how I can import all my mail and settings into evolution? (I'm using Thunderbird)02:57
YanchoLjL - installed all the packages which sounded like it .. now .. trying again if it works hehe02:57
grndslmwhat do you guys think the easiest way to transfer files on a local network between windows & ubuntu are??  ftp?02:57
nbh758I have tried that several times02:57
PeloMegaqwerty,  there is an import option in evolution,  under files02:57
cynikalgrndslm: samba definitely02:58
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Pelogrndslm, ,  samba and shared folder02:58
MegaqwertyPelo: Yes, but that won't work seeing as Thunderbird isn't an older version of Evolution02:58
grndslmsamba's that's the easiest, really?02:58
cynikalgrndslm: its incredibly easy in ubuntu. Just create a folder, for example, named shared in your home directory. Then right click on it and choose share folder. It will install samba and configure everything for you02:59
sethkgrndslm, depends.  samba can be tricky to set up.02:59
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e_machinistWhere can I find a list of all available repositories?02:59
sethkgrndslm, I use sftp, which is just like ftp only secure.  if you install cygwin on the windows box, then you have both sides02:59
Chippere_machinist: google02:59
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e_machinistChipper, done.02:59
sethkgrndslm, there are many ways02:59
PeloMegaqwerty,  when I tried to import my old stuff,   evolution searched for info from several clients, including thunderbird02:59
grndslmcynikal...ok, will try your suggestion first02:59
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thinklI'm switching from Windows and am trying to edit webpages. On our windows machines, I can open files on our webserver directly from explorer through some kind of magic. Does anyone know what that magic is and how I reproduce it in linux? I can't ftp into our server or ssh in so this must be something else...02:59
jordan!repositories | e_machinist02:59
ubotue_machinist: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:59
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MegaqwertyPelo: Huh, it didn't find Thunderbird for me.03:00
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azurealhi...is there some simple way to revert to default ubuntu sound settings?  it does not seem to be kernel dependent, so it's really been a headache...atm it won't even recognize my soundcard =/03:00
daveanyone know how i can make xinerama work better with gnome?03:00
Megaqwertypelo: oh, wait. I think I see how. thanks03:00
nbh758You can access repositories through synaptic package manager03:00
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sethkthinkl, sounds like you are remotely mounting the drives.  windows calls it "mapping a share" so you won't know you are mounting a file system and can do it anywhere, not just in windows.  :)03:00
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e_machinistmeh, I already got all of the repositories apparently.03:01
sethkthinkl, seriously, you can do exactly the same thing in linux, in several ways.03:01
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sethkthinkl, or, you can ssh into the linux box itself, and edit them there.  lots of options03:01
jordanazureal: Possibly through dpkg-reconfigure -phigh03:01
Poseidoni want make a dual-boot of XP and ubuntu.but i have no exprience to do that03:01
meatwad64is lame available on 6.10?03:01
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thinklsethk -- It doesn't look like a drive being mounted.03:01
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cynikalgrndslm: sure let me know how it turns out03:01
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sethkthinkl, you don't bring up a file explorer and click on the html files?03:01
nbh758you have access to all repositories, may will be downloaded as you select them03:02
azurealjordan what does phigh do?03:02
UKMattWhat does it mean when "%U" and things like that are tacked on to the end of commands?03:02
sethkthinkl, I'm not a windows expert, there are other ways to do it in windows.03:02
meatwad64i have universe enbaled03:02
e_machinistPoseidon: just save yourself some trouble and buy two hard drives.03:02
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sethkthinkl, what you described sounds to me as if you had the files mounted, but as I said, I'm not a windows expert03:02
thinklsethk: There's a little arrow-y button thing in windows that opens it up. I then have to enter a name and password and I can save directly to the webserver from Word or Frontpage or whatever.03:02
davePoseidon , if you have a good amount of memory , i highly recommend Vmware03:02
PeloPoseidon,   when instaling you will be asked to partition the drive,   ubu should let you specify part of your hdd for ubu,  then it will install  grub wiich will let you select which  OS to boot at startup03:02
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sethkthinkl, it isn't going to be as seemless in linux as that.03:02
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jordanazureal: It only asks high priority questions.03:02
davei run vmware on linux and just fire it up when i need something windows only03:02
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MegaqwertyPelo: nope. Can't figure it out.03:03
thinklsethk: I'm not a windows expert either ;) I'm just trying to figure how this stuff works -- it's not ftp or ssh or ntp...03:03
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azurealjordan, what do you propose I reconfigure?03:03
grndslmcynikal...wow, setting up samba wasy incredibly easy...now how do i connect the windows machine to my local ip?03:03
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ubuntu_I accidently fried my mbr(as in deleted it completely) I'm booted to ubuntu live. how do I restore grub/mbr?03:03
sethkthinkl, you can use open office to edit the files, similarly to the way you do it with word, but you'll have to move the files from and to the web server, or remotely mount them03:03
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UKMattWhat does it mean when "%U" and things like that are tacked on to the end of commands?03:03
PeloMegaqwerty,  try searching the ubuntu forum for an answer03:03
jordanazureal: I don't know to be honest.03:03
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JoseStefan!mbr > ubuntu_03:03
MegaqwertyPelo: okay.03:03
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thinklsethk: Right -- I actually have a pretty good understanding of linux. What I don't know is what protocol one uses to access this webserver.03:03
sethkthinkl, once you mount them so they look local, you can edit them with open office.  but we are just talking about straight html here03:03
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sethkthinkl, you can use nfs, you can use samba to mount03:04
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ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:04
daveanyone know anything about setting up xinerama ? there doesnt seem to be any settings anywhere03:04
sethkthinkl, or you can edit them on the server and point the display back at your workstation.03:04
cynikalgrndslm: Yeah I love it :D   Either give your machine a static ip and connect using something like "smb://" in a browser on your windows machine, or use your hostname, like "smb://pirat"03:04
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azurealluckily aplay -l  outputs no soundcards... oh wow03:04
timbobstevei am running OSX/Xubuntu on my ibook G3, but everytime I switch OS's the time is all out of whack because the previous OS has modified it. Any ideas on how to fix this? I searched the forums and found nothing related to macs and time.03:04
cynikalgrndslm: if you are on a windows machine you would type "//" or "//hostname"03:04
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e_machinistGuess I'm just gonna have to put Edgy on here to get access to the newer stuff.03:05
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grndslmcynikal...thanks, you're the man03:05
thinklsethk: but I'm pretty sure this is different from a samba mount (I use that to mount our windows drives on our fileserver).03:05
Poseidondo you mean I have to save an empty partition for ubuntu ?03:05
cynikalgrndslm: np :D03:05
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pumpkinheadis there an easier way to get to a terminal besides applications>accessories>terminal03:05
VornotronYou can drag any icon from that whole menu onto the upper bar and it will stay there permanently.03:06
abovettpumpkinhead: You can put it on the panel or assign a shortcut key03:06
MERLIN_MONROEsomebody can help me?03:06
jramseyany pointers on the internel linux disk block i/o system documentation? i've a special application that requires intercepting block read/write requests03:06
pumpkinheadtks abovett03:06
sethkthinkl, yes, it is, I'm thinking of ways you could handle it that would have a similar feel03:06
thinklMERLIN_MONROE: ask your question03:06
thinklsethk: Ah -- key point -- I don't control the server.03:06
sethkthinkl, although I'd be surprised if, under the covers, it isn't just a samba mount in windows, even if it doesn't look that way.03:07
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AlanHaggai|SleepHow to copy a data from my Linux partition to an NTFS one?03:07
thinklsethk: I've just been banging my head against a wall trying to figure out what the server is using to communicate with windows.03:07
Music_Shufflepumpkinhead: or if you're on Gnome, just just alt-f2 and chcek the box labelled "Run in Terminal" xD03:07
Music_Shufflejust use*03:07
sethkthinkl, run a packet sniffer when you are editing, you'll find out quickly enough03:07
baxter_kylieHi. Having issue with file permissions. The no amount of chmodding seems to stick. Any ideas on how to troubleshoot?03:07
grndslmcynikal...i tried to connect, but the user/pass didn't work03:07
pumpkinheadthanks musicshuffle03:07
Rappermasdoes anyone know of a tool that I can use to record a video of my desktop?03:08
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pumpkinheadis there a gui filemanager you can run as root03:08
AlanHaggai|Sleepthinkl : How to copy a data from my Linux partition to an NTFS one?03:08
jribRappermas: istanbul is such a tool (when it decides to work)03:08
Pelobaxter_kylie,  what are you trying to do ?  you could user the terminal and launch  nautilus with  gksu nautilus03:08
sethkpumpkinhead, any file manager can be run as root03:08
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Rappermasjrib: will take a look03:08
MERLIN_MONROEthinkl =/03:08
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Pelopumpkinhead,  from the terminal   gksu  nautilus03:08
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cynikalgrndslm: hmm, you shouldn't need one03:08
Rappermasreason i ask is i'm trying to show off AIGLX03:09
thinklAlanHaggai|Sleep: Have you successfully mounted an the NTFS partition?03:09
pumpkinheadthank you pelo and seth03:09
grndslmcynikal, will try again03:09
spiderwormanyone running up against the edgy cannot connect to pptp vpn problem?03:09
AlanHaggai|Sleepthinkl : yes. It automatically mounts my partition03:09
rjmmy ubuntu dapper box updated itself while i was away.  when i got home and logged in, i no longer have sound in macromedia flash.03:09
rjmi tried this - didn't work03:09
thinklAlanHaggai|Sleep: Then copying should be simple -- you can use your file manager or cp or what have you. What error are you getting when you try to copy?03:09
jramseyany pointers on the internel linux disk block i/o system documentation? i've a special application that requires intercepting block read/write requests03:10
AlanHaggai|Sleepthinkl : some message that the partitions are read only03:10
cynikalAlanHaggai|Sleep: If you want ntfs write support you can use the ntfs-3g driver. Here is a tutorial on how to set that up. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21700903:10
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grndslmcynikal...it definitely needs a user/pass... it won't let me hit ok without at least a username03:10
Pelocynikal,  is it reliable ?03:10
thinklAlanHaggai|Sleep: So the NTFS drives are being mounted read only. That could be because the computer that's sharing them is only allowing a read-only mount.03:11
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AlanHaggai|Sleepthinkl : it's in my computer itself03:11
cynikalPelo: Yes, I've been using it for months and transferring large and small files (even 4GB dvd's) without a single error03:11
cynikalPelo: Unfortunately it could be much faster, I hope they will work on performance in the future03:11
Pelocynikal,  thanks, I'll make a note03:11
highnekoHow good is this computer? http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10079854&catid=10607&logon=&langid=EN03:12
thinklAlanHaggai|Sleep: Sorry -- mixing up ntfs with nfs in my head.03:12
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cynikalgrndslm: strange, would you mind showing me what your /etc/samba/smb.conf file looks like?03:12
TIger_ITHow can i enable udma7 mode? please........Ive tried in several ways!03:12
AlanHaggai|Sleepthinkl : no problem03:12
Pelocynikal,  I use diskmounter right now and the write feature is not relaible so I only use it in read03:12
thinklAlanHaggai|Sleep: IIRC, it is not safe to write to an NTFS drive with the linux driver.03:12
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sethkTIger_IT, hdparm03:12
Poseidonis ubuntu available on laptop?03:12
meatwad64has anyone installed lame on edgy?03:12
sethkTIger_IT, you may also have to enable it in the machine's BIOS03:12
AlanHaggai|Sleepthinkl : why?03:12
Rappermasntfs-3g can be used to write to NTFS03:12
PeloTIger_IT,  look it up in the forum , maybe you'll find the answer there03:12
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tk_Hi there... I have a question about swat : i have installed the package und have tryt to connect to swat http daemon with http://localhost:901 but i become a timeout , how can  i start the swat daemon if they are stopped ? can anyone help me ?03:13
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thinklAlanHaggai|Sleep: So it is likely disabled by default. I believe that writing to the drive could cause you trouble. Rappermas -- is ntfs-3g safe to use then?03:13
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cynikalPelo: yeah I understand. I was afraid of possibly corrupting my windows install, but my brother convinced me to use it and I'm glad I took the chance03:13
TIger_ITPelo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29818/03:13
abovettPoseidon: It'kll run on them - or do you want one with it preinstalled?03:13
TIger_ITsethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29818/03:13
Rappermasthink: back when I had windows XP, it worked fine03:13
TIger_ITSome explanations are in spanish........but they are no too much!03:13
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AlanHaggai|Sleepthanks cynikal , thinkl and Rappermas :)03:14
sethkTIger_IT, it's telling you the drive only goes to udma6, which is common.  In fact, many go only to 503:14
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AlanHaggai|Sleepwill try it03:14
Rappermasanyway, the author claims that it fully works, just slower03:14
baxter_kyliePelo: change executable files to 666 for shared code.03:14
cynikalcourse :)03:14
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TIger_ITsethk: Im in udma2!!!!03:14
TaPiOnI search prog who can tell video's length ? pls03:14
TIger_ITsethk: Ive tried hdparm  -X udma7 /dev/hda03:14
abovettPoseidon: I think a few people are selling them but not sure who.03:14
TIger_ITsethk: and nothing!!03:14
TaPiOnI search prog who can tell me video's length ? pls03:14
cynikalRappermas: and I agree with the author. I've been using it for a long time without problems, just wish they would work on the performance now heh03:14
sethkTIger_IT, the drive doesn't support 7, so nothing is what is supposed to happen03:15
Yanchowhats the command to check the cpu usage pls ?03:15
baxter_kyliePelo: Anytime I chmod (or even gksudo nautilis) the changes I make are accepted but not applied.03:15
abovettPoseidon: works well on most laptops I've tried though.03:15
sethkTIger_IT, the drive only supports 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 603:15
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sethkTIger_IT, so use 603:15
Rappermascynikal: lol, true, i think they just decided it's good enough03:15
TIger_ITsethk:  its supported!!!03:15
Poseidonabovett,i have a version   is it too old?03:15
PeloTIger_IT,  I don'T know how to solve your issue,  and no one else answered you so I suggested the forum03:15
sethkTIger_IT, the drive is telling the program it does not.  don't you see the list of supported DMA modes?03:15
abovettPoseidon: what is it?03:15
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Pelobaxter_kylie,  I don'T know, I'm a noob at this myself03:16
Poseidonabovett ,v5.0403:16
micah_cthere we go...03:16
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DanSchnellHow do i get the X log on the paste site?03:16
abovettPoseidon: It will but why not get a more up to date version - it'll work better.03:16
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TIger_ITsethk:  DMA modes:  mdma0 mdma1 mdma203:16
Pelobaxter_kylie,  you might find an answer here http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php03:16
ke-MDMA :D03:16
grndslmcynikal, http://pastebin.ca/23366303:17
Poseidonabovett,i think so03:17
TIger_ITsethk:  BUT about UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 udma603:17
sethkTIger_IT, I was looking at UDMA, but it is only showing you 0, 1, and 2 in MDMA, so what's your point?03:17
grndslmtrying to copy my friend's music to my computer...if that matters03:17
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sethkTIger_IT, yes, indeed, 6.  NOT 7.  6.  6.   not 7.   6.  got it?03:17
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TIger_ITsethk:  my point is......... WHY udma2 if I can use udma6 ...03:17
TaPiOnI search prog who can tell me video's length ? pls03:17
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TIger_ITsethk:  ok...03:18
sethkTIger_IT, you told me you tried 7.  7 doesn't exist, so nothing happens.03:18
sethkTIger_IT, it isn't going to say, hey, I don't have 7, here's 6.03:18
Rappermasok, i have a ridiculously easy question that i'm still wondering about--in beryl, how do i set a double click on the title bar to maximize the window instead of shading it?03:18
TaPiOnallo ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????03:18
abovettPoseidon: Either download edgy or dapper, or get CDs via ShipIt03:18
whyameyeis it possible to access my samba server at work from home?03:18
bhearsumhi, i'm trying to do a spellcheck with openoffice 2.0 but it doesn't seem to find a dictionary. my locale is set to English (Canada) and i have myspell-en-gb installed but the spellcheck does not recognize words i _know_ are misspelled03:18
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TIger_ITsethk:  sudo  hdparm  -X udma6 /dev/hda ............ and then again........... just udma2 !!!!03:18
LjLTaPiOn: please do NOT do that03:18
DanSchnell>How do i get the X log on the paste site03:19
pumpkinheadi was using a game i really liked on fedora, but there is no ubuntu .rpm.  can i compile it from a binary03:19
cynikalgrndslm: wow thats really weird, your file is missing a few things03:19
TaPiOnLjL please anser me03:19
Sonic|Laptoppumpkinhead, you can compile it from the source03:19
TIger_ITsethk: UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 udma603:19
LjL!attitude | TaPiOn03:19
ubotuTaPiOn: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:19
pumpkinheadthanks sonic i don't know how but i'll look it up03:19
LjLTaPiOn: any media player will tell you. you have totem03:19
Poseidonabovett,but i am not familier to install OS from Haredisk03:20
Pelopumpkinhead,  http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/03:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win32-codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:20
TaPiOni search a little prog03:20
abovettPoseidon: What is Haredisk?03:20
pumpkinheadthanks pelo!03:20
TIger_ITsethk: can u read me ?03:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:20
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sethkTIger_IT, not sure what you mean03:20
Aji-DahakaI'm bad at that03:20
dabaR!w32codecs > Aji-Dahaka03:21
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DanSchnellCan some one help me? How do i get the X log on the paste site?03:21
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abkhey guys, I'm on edgy and having one last issue: although my window decorations and borders look like the themes I set (in Beryl/Emerald/gnome-theme-manager), the  controls for the window like buttons, scroll bars, etc. are REALLY UGLY: looks like gtk0. gnome-theme-manager is no help: nothing changes in metacity/compiz/beryl. is there something I'm missing? can I edit a config file?03:21
cynikalgrndslm: Here, copy mine and just change the workgroup value to the name of your workgroup and my folder's name and location to yours03:21
hennagood morning all of you03:21
Poseidonabovett,sorry Hard disk03:21
cynikalgrndslm: http://pastebin.ca/23366503:21
TIger_ITsethk: WHY if I can use up to udma6 .......... Ive actived udma2 !!!03:21
dabaRDanSchnell: can you access the paste site through the same computer whose xlog you want there?03:21
Aji-DahakadabaR: thanks03:21
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TIger_ITsethk: My english is poor.........but I think Im being clear03:21
DanSchnelldabar, i dont know03:21
GaiaX11henna: Which morning? Here is 23:22hrs03:22
Poseidonabovett,can you help me?03:22
TIger_ITsethk: Got U the idea, now ?03:22
dabaRDanSchnell: well you need to copy and paste to get the file to the pastebin.03:22
sethkTIger_IT, you mean why does it default to udma2?  probably because of a BIOS setting.  It may be a driver issue.  It may be the S.M.A.R.T. settings03:22
abovettPoseidon: do you mean you want to install from an image on the hard disk, or install _to_ the hard disk?03:22
nononoHi, why seems 'sudo' deactivated? When doing 'sudo <cmd>', nothing happens.03:22
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sethkTIger_IT, try running the smartctl utility on the disk.03:22
sethkTIger_IT, try using hdparm to change the default mode03:22
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TIger_ITsethk: thanks03:22
RohanRNSnonono: probably means that you already have sudo access..it remembers the login for a while03:22
TIger_ITsethk: Ive tried....with hdparm!03:23
TIger_ITsethk: but no result03:23
TIger_ITsethk: but no results03:23
nononoRohanRNS: but im not logged in with root03:23
AlReece45Should the "Test" button for the "Open Sound System" driver work in Sound Preferences?03:23
Poseidonabovett,form.iso   not CD-ROM03:23
DanSchnelldabaR, someone told me to do that because of my problem found here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290877 and i have no idea what he means03:23
AlanHaggaicynikal : is there a GUI for NTFS access03:23
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nononoRohanRNS: ,and dont have permissions for everything03:23
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hennamorning in the Netherlands, sorry okay03:23
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RohanRNSnonono: try doing "sudo -k" and then try using sudo again03:23
cynikalAlanHaggai: What do you mean? To transfer files?03:23
dabaRDanSchnell: visit paste.ubuntu-nl.org to get an idea of what to do03:23
abknonono: it just remembers that you've typed in your password. what if you try opening a new shell (console)?03:24
thinklsethk: Well, the more I research, the more it looks bad for me. It looks like frontpage uses some kind of special proprietary extensions of its own which are different from the standard ftp/sftp/webdav toolkit...03:24
AlanHaggaicycom : yes03:24
abknonono: are the sudos still broken?03:24
abovettPoseidon: Can't you burn the ISO to a CD?03:24
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grndslmcynikal...so, i shouldn't need user/pass verification now?03:24
ubotuMozilla Sunbird is a cross-platform calendar application, built upon Mozilla Toolkit. Our goal is to bring Mozilla-style ease-of-use to your calendar, without tying you to a particular storage solution.03:24
cynikalgrndslm: nope03:24
sethkthinkl, indeed.  that's not a surprise from M$.  although, sniff the packets, you might find it's just grafted onto a simpler protocol underneath.  then again, you might not.  :)03:24
merkidemisCan someone assist me with getting my ATI Radeon Mobility Xpress 200 working on my laptop?  I can get X up, but the redraw is really slow03:24
grndslmcynikal...awesome, brb03:24
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Poseidoniabovett,dose it work?03:24
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TIger_ITsethk: here you can see ALL my tries! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29818/03:25
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thinklFor example, these folks (http://webservices.web.cern.ch/WebServices/Help/?kbid=090025) describe providing a number of different protocols, one of which is just called "frontpage proprietary"03:25
nononoabk: yes, sudo doesnt do anything. But its only a problem with this user account.03:25
DanSchnelldabaR: This is my problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290877 and i can't fix it03:25
AlanHaggaicynikal : yes. I need to transfer files03:25
tichi want to add the canonical commercial repository but the wiki only has the one for dapper listed. what is the one for edgy?03:25
abovettPoseidon: Yes. What OS are you running at the moment?03:25
merkidemisI've tried reinstalling fglrx, I have the composite option disabled, but I still can't get direct rendering enabled03:25
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sethkTIger_IT, I have to deal with some paid support for a bit.  I'll try to get back here soon.03:25
abkmerkidemis: try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and then turn on the kernel framebuffer03:25
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cynikalAlanHaggai: No its transparent. Works just like if you were changing files on your linux partition03:25
abkor turn it off, if it's on03:25
Poseidonabovett,win XP03:25
TIger_ITsethk:  ok...03:26
nononoSo how do I re-enable sudo?03:26
abknonono: are you sure that account is listed in /etc/sudoers?03:26
DanSchnelli changed my settings in xserver-xorg, but now how do I load ubuntu LiveCD?03:26
AlanHaggaicynikal : I get a cannot write error. But reading the files is ok03:26
yungknightwhen i run iwconfig i see my wireless device on eth1 but when i do ifconfig eth1 up i get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory", any ideas on why this is so.03:26
DanSchnellI'm in the console03:26
cynikalAlanHaggai: did you change your fstab?03:26
TIger_ITnonono: just sudo........ again :)03:26
AlanHaggaicynikal : no I think03:26
micahcowannonono: if you haven't changed the default /etc/sudoer settings, you can add that user to the "admin" group.03:26
Poseidonabovett,in c disk and I have another 3 patitions03:26
nononoTIger_IT: sudo doesnt do anything. It seems dead.03:26
cynikalAlanHaggai: Ok type "sudo nano /etc/fstab"03:26
abovettPoseidon: You need to burn the ISO to CD as a disk image - can't remember if XP can do that itself or if you need to use something like Nero. _Don't_ just burn the ISO file to the CD as a file!03:26
hennasee you all03:27
grndslmcynikal, what should the workgroup be?03:27
merkidemisabk: I am also getting the Mesa entry in fglrxinfo, not my ATI card03:27
cynikalAlanHaggai: and where it says ntfs, change it to say ntfs-3g03:27
hennamaybe till later on03:27
abovettPoseidon: Do you have Nero or anything like that?03:27
micahcowannonono, I took your comment to mean that you do have *a* user that can use sudo?03:27
TIger_ITnonono: U can entry to Linux in SINGLE USER MODE (as root)03:27
nononoTIger_IT: like: 'sudo mc' - nothing happens03:27
cynikalgrndslm: Hmm it should be whatever you named it. By default I think its MSHOME03:27
AlanHaggaiok cynikal03:27
Poseidonabovett,no, I just have VM03:27
TIger_ITnonono: : mc: command not found03:27
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cynikalAlanHaggai: After that you have to type "sudo umount -a" and then "sudo mount -a"03:27
abkmerkidemis: I'm not sure fglrx supports older Radeons. I have a Radeon Mobility in my Thinkpad and it's not supported either. ATI is nasty03:27
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cynikalAlanHaggai: to remount it03:27
grndslmcynikal...but, i define it in the smb.conf file?  and tell that to windows where?  in the username field?03:28
abovettPoseidon: VM? You mean you are running a virtual machine?03:28
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AlanHaggaicynikal : please help me change the fstab03:28
hennalove you dearest lovely dad03:28
cynikalgrndslm: In the smb file it should say "workgroup = WORKGROUP", just change that to say MSHOME instead03:28
AlanHaggaicynikal : I will paste it and send you the link03:28
nononoTIger_IT: mc is a program I have. But sudo doesn neither sais it not found nor opens it the program03:28
cynikalgrndslm: you don't do anything on the windows machine, it should work just like any regular folder03:28
abknobody has any ideas on how to edit themes without gnome-theme-manager?03:28
Poseidonabovett, no I dont want to run it  ,it is too slow03:28
nononoTIger_IT: 'sudo <any-cmd>' does nothing03:28
nononoTIger_IT: ,'sudo ls' - no output03:29
TIger_ITnonono: TRY gksudo or kdesu03:29
AlanHaggaicynikal : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29820/03:29
TIger_ITnonono: U MUST be in a console......... U know ?03:29
DanSchnellcan somebody please help me?03:29
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PeloDanSchnell,  what is your issue ?03:30
Poseidonabovett,so i have to burn it to a cd with NERO right?03:30
cynikalAlanHaggai: umm wow, are....are you sure thats right?03:30
abovettPoseidon: So do you have any way to burn the ISO to CD as an image? If you like I can check if XP can do it itself but it will take a few minutes - no XP boxes ruinning at the moment.03:30
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grndslmcynikal...it's still definitely asking for at least something in the user field when i type in in explorer's address bar03:31
DanSchnellPelo, I have just reconfigured xserver-xorg, but now how do i load ubuntu from LiveCD from console?03:31
cynikalAlanHaggai: you have like 9 ntfs partitions lol03:31
sethkPoseidon, well, with nero or a similar program, there are several including at least one free one.03:31
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AlanHaggaiyes cynikal :)03:31
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merkidemisabk: its not older, I bought this about 6 months ago (well, kinda old then I guess :)03:31
nononoTIger_IT: I am in the konsole all the time.  gksudo gave me something different: I typed 'gksudo ls', gave me: "username is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported."03:31
AlanHaggaicynikal : 280 GB in total03:31
dabaRsethk: free as in pudding or free as in freedom?03:31
cynikalAlanHaggai: For every line, after where it says /media/sda#, change ntfs to ntfs-3g03:31
PeloDanSchnell,  , sorry I don't know ,  I am not even sure I understand what you are trying to acheive03:31
hiffysethk: Turns out my "f-lock" was out. Everything is fine in that regard. If you actually remembered my problem, thats another story.03:31
sethkdabaR, both, I imagine  :)03:31
cynikalgrndslm: you have to restart samba for the changes to take effect03:31
hiffyNow, howeever, my sound has stopped working.03:31
firebird619abovett: I am running XP right now and to my knowledge it cannot burn ISOs itself. I have seen programs on the Internet to add that functionality though.03:31
sethkhiffy, yes, I remember, at least a bit.03:32
TIger_ITnonono:  ?03:32
grndslmcynikal...ahh, gracias03:32
cynikalgrndslm: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart03:32
yungknightdoes anyone know what i would be getting "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory" after doing ifconfig eth1 (iwconfig shows eth1 as my wireless connection)?03:32
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Poseidonabovett,just copy a .iso. is it OK?03:32
AlanHaggaiok cynikal03:32
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abkmerkidemis: so you've tried setting "fglrx" as your driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? (assuming you've installed fglrx)03:32
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DanSchnellPelo, I have reconfigured my setters for monitor and driver so i can see the desktop.  This is my problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29087703:32
kitcheyungknight did you do sudo ifconfig eth1 up before you did ifconfig eth1?03:32
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AlanHaggaicynikal : I get a device is busy error while trying to unmount03:33
meatwad64is there a decent cd ripper on linux at all?03:33
yungknightkitche: yea03:33
merkidemisabk: nope, that does not appear to have helped03:33
nononoTIger_IT: Any suggestions?03:33
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abovettPoseidon: No - don't just copy the ISO to CD - that won't work.03:33
TIger_ITnonono:  no no03:33
nononoTIger_IT: gksudo gave me something different: I typed 'gksudo ls', gave me: "username is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported."03:33
grndslmcynikal...still a nova03:33
meatwad64juicer is nice but seems to be ogg only which my iPod doesn't like03:33
cynikalAlanHaggai: oh no thats fine. I told you to unmount all of your mount points, and you cant unmount the root file system you are using03:33
hiffyoy vey03:33
cynikalAlanHaggai: so just remount them and you should have write access03:33
hiffynm. Wow. Today is not my day03:33
todesengeli just installed ubuntu, and i'm having a ltitle bit of a hard time grasping how to configure network connections03:33
AlanHaggaicynikal :I see03:33
cynikalgrndslm: it still asks for a username/pass?03:33
abovettPoseidon: you must burn it as a disk image. Nero can definitely do it - I'll cyheck if XP can do it without nero - hold on...03:34
grndslmoh yea03:34
AlanHaggaicynikal : How to remount them?03:34
abkmerkidemis: I'm not sure then :[ I know quick fixes, but I'm a mac tech :p03:34
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TIger_ITnonono:  if you need something very important......... reboot...and entry as SINGLE USER MODE03:34
merkidemisabk: It was working great in Dapper, but after I updated to Edgy its all crap03:34
cynikalAlanHaggai: sudo mount -a03:34
todesengeli'm connected to the net via my neighbors open wireless, which ubuntu picked up and configured03:34
Poseidonabovett,thank you very much03:34
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grndslmcynikal...maybe i should just try restarting both 'puters?03:34
cynikalgrndslm: Hmm, are you sure your friend's workgroup is called MSHOME?03:34
todesengelbut, when i go to 'networking', it says that my wireless connection isn't configured or enabled03:34
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grndslmcynikal...i don't have any clue about networking in ms03:35
azurealis there a useful utility for discovering my soundcard?  cli discover does not seem to work...03:35
grndslmor linux for that matter03:35
sethkvoraistos, does nonononot03:35
DanSchnellWhat is the command for gdm restart?03:35
AlanHaggaiyes cynikal. It is working. Thank you very much :)03:35
PeloDanSchnell, ,  sorry, I can'T help03:35
merkidemisabk: I've been pouring over the forums, of course, trying everything, but obviously they haven't been helpful03:35
cynikalAlanHaggai: Np :)03:35
merkidemisDan: sudo shutdown -r now03:35
cynikalDanSchnell: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart03:35
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aw420hi i have just installed 64bit edgy today and i followed the instructions to get automatix2 and that went fine my only problem is that im still unable to play windows media 9 files03:35
cynikalgrndslm: Do you have access to your friend's machine right now? Or can you tell him to change something?03:36
grndslmcynikal...yes, he's 2 rooms over03:36
DanSchnellcynikal, why does Starting GNOME display manager fail for me?03:36
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cynikalDanSchnell: I'm not sure03:36
Dheeraj_kwindow media 9 file?03:36
cynikalgrndslm: lol one sec I will reboot and see. I havent used windows in a while so I cant remember it off the top of my head03:36
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m4jqphas anyone ever had the problem that when you install the nvidia beta drivers you can't see text?03:37
DanSchnellThis is ridiculous.  I've been trying to find out the problem for the last week and nobody has ANY idea at all!  I've asked here and on the forums and none of the solutions work.03:37
todesengelwhy does networking say that my wireless connection isn't configured or enabled?03:37
abkmerkidemis: do you NEED edgy for anything? my rule of thumb is "don't fix what ain't broke"03:37
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grndslmDanSchnell....reinstall from scratch?03:37
Kingsqueakm4jqp Xgl ?03:37
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merkidemisabk: probably not, though it seems a little late now03:38
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m4jqpKingsqueak, no the nvidia beta drivers03:38
LjL!automatix | aw42003:38
ubotuaw420: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.03:38
grndslmDanSchnell, if your home dir. is on a separate partition...it shouldn't be a huge problem...but YMMV03:38
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DanSchnellgrndslm, Its not installion, I'm trying to get the LiveCD to load.  This is my problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29087703:38
Kingsqueakm4jqp I only had that trouble with Xgl/compiz, xterm worked but urxvt didn't03:38
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m4jqpKingsqueak, how'd you fix that?03:38
Kingsqueakcouldn't figure out the colors properly03:38
KingsqueakI switched to Beryl and it went away03:38
m4jqpKingsqueak, you don't need xgl to use beryl/compiz with the beta drivers03:39
abovettPoseidon: XP can't burn ISO images by itself, but I think there are some free programs which will do it if you don't have Nero or anything like that. Can't vouch for them though. It _might_ be possible to install from an ISO image on the hard disk but I'm not exactly sure how and I suspect it would be a little complex.03:39
Kingsqueakreally, didn't realize that03:39
m4jqpyup :)03:39
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m4jqpi found it way easier to set up03:39
Kingsqueakah beta drivers03:39
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m4jqpbut my friend can't see text03:39
merkidemisbrb, I am going to move to the library03:39
m4jqpand fails at irc03:39
Kingsqueakyeah I'm on the plain nivia-glx drivers03:39
kitchePoseidon: DeepBurner Free is good03:39
m4jqpand i donno what is problem is03:39
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Kingsqueakm4jqp have him try 'xterm', if that works, start rxvt from that term and see what the error is if any03:40
TIger_IT WHY if I can use up to udma6 .......... Ive actived udma2 !!!03:40
abovettkitche: Thanks for the recommendation - I've not got experience with any of these programs.03:40
m4jqpKingsqueak, what is xterm?03:40
firebird619abovett: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm has a download to add ISO burning as a native function to Windows XP, 2003, etc.03:40
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grndslmDanSchnell...only thing i could suggest is dropping into a terminal and typing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and make sure framebuffer isn't enabled...if that doesn't help, then i dunno03:40
p00ch3di've got a Dell Latitude D820 with the Intel PRO/wireless 3945ABG wifi card and wondering if anyone has some comprehensive how-to's for making Dapper happy with the wifi card with WPA?03:40
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Kingsqueakm4jqp a terminal window app03:41
m4jqpso it's a command?03:41
m4jqp(i use gentoo)03:41
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m4jqpnever used ubuntu03:41
Kingsqueakyes, opens a window03:41
cynicalgrndslm: tell your friend to right click on my computer and go to properties03:41
Kingsqueakxterm is just X, you probably have it03:41
sethkm4jqp, gentoo and ubuntu have precisely the same commands, including xterm03:41
m4jqpnever used it03:41
cynicalgrndslm: then click on the next tab to the right, he will find his computer's name and his workgroup's name listed there03:42
Poseidonabovett,thanks, i can download Nero later i will try to burn it03:42
m4jqpKingsqueak, should the beta driers be instaled when he does this? because he can't see any text with them installed03:42
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VanessaEgood evening03:42
abovettPoseidon: OK - good luck.03:42
DanSchnellgrndslm, it is not enabled...03:43
Kingsqueakm4jqp not sure what causes it but there is some weird color mapping thing that happens03:43
abovettfirebird619: Thanks - useful to know.03:43
KingsqueakI just sort of figured a way around it, not the real cause03:43
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firebird619abovett: np03:43
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kitchem4jqp: you probably don't have xterm unless you installed it03:44
m4jqpKingsqueak, http://pastebin.ca/233690 thats what he gets03:44
DanSchnellAnyone: when i use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" it says Starting GNOME Display Manager fails, can anyone help me?03:44
m4jqpkitche, ahh03:44
duartei've been having problems with the network manager applet on edy... can anyone help me?03:44
abkduarte: I have basic knowledge, what's up?03:44
kitchem4jqp: since it's seperate in xorg-modular03:44
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Kingsqueakm4jqp that seems like he's trying to run xterm as a different user than the X session is run as03:45
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m4jqpKingsqueak, he got that error as root03:45
Kingsqueakis X session running as root?03:46
grndslmcynical, i don't think he had any workgroups setup...i tried to enable one, which was defaulted to MSHOME...and i have to restart, so we'll see how that goes03:46
m4jqpKingsqueak, probably not03:46
Kingsqueaktell him to run it as the user he's logged in as03:46
cynicalgrndslm: ah you ran the network setup wizard?03:47
m4jqpKingsqueak, seem's he's here >> francois03:47
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duarteI cannot choose wireless networks using the applet on the notification area03:47
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francoisKingsqueak, hey, i'm sorta stuck :S03:48
grndslmcynical, yup...i figured it would have been enabled by default, but i guessed wrong03:48
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cynicalgrndslm: I as well. Does it seem to work now?03:48
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Kingsqueakfrancois as the user X is logged in as, run 'xterm' see if you can see the fonts03:49
grndslmcynical...still waiting on the reboot03:49
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abkduarte, try running "sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces". what's in there?03:49
m4jqpfrancois, probably meaning you need the beta drivers instaled03:49
m4jqpthen run it03:49
Clarrisahow do I find out what version of PHP i have installed?03:49
francoisKingsqueak, ok so run on the beta drivers, and then run xterm ? '03:49
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hangfirephp -v03:50
francoisKingsqueak, because right now i get this error http://pastebin.ca/23371003:50
m4jqpClarrisa, php --version03:50
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Kingsqueakfrancois that error is because you are running that command as a different user than X is running as03:50
sethkfrancois, as the user who started x, do:    xhost +03:51
sethkfrancois, that allows all hosts and users to connect to your X display03:51
sethkfrancois, turn it back off (if you need to) with    xhost -03:51
grndslmcynical...now it at least shows my comuter under "view workgroups" or whatever...but it's STILL asking for the user/pass03:51
sethkfrancois, that's xhost space the-plus-sign03:51
sethkfrancois, xhost +03:51
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francoisso run that now ?03:51
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sethkfrancois, if you want to connect as the other user, yes03:52
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cynicalgrndslm: grr this is strange, reboot your computer just in case03:52
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jramseyi added a network hp laserjet 1200 printer hosted on windows as a windows smb printer, basically used suggested defaults (driver, etc.) but prints do nothing03:52
Clarrisam4jqp when I type php --version, bash says php: command not found.... I must not be in the right folder?03:52
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francoissethk, ok done that, now what do i do ? it just says disabled access control03:53
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m4jqpClarrisa, install php then03:53
sethkfrancois, right.  so now, the other command that gave you the error you posted should work03:53
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bootup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:53
Clarrisam4jqp, it's installed.... it's a LAMP server03:53
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butterflywifemayhello everyone how are you?03:54
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sethkMetaMorfoziS, did you mean bootp?03:54
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francoisKingsqueak, ok now i have to reboot with the new drivers running ? and then run xterm ?03:54
MetaMorfoziSno,  i find some bootup sppeedup trick03:54
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delta____Hey guys! I use Ubuntu Dapper's OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 and cannot seem to get hypenation for "English (GB)" and "English (US)". Also, apt-cache only lists openoffice.org-hyphenation-de, openoffice.org-hyphenation-hr and openoffice.org-hyphenation-hu. Am I doing something wrong, or is there simply no support?03:55
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alishais there anyway to enable wpa in wireless networking?03:55
DanSchnellQuestion...Is it possible to run LiveCD on an nVidia driver?03:55
delta____alisha: Depends on your driver, I'd say. I use ndiswrapper and got everything running smoothly on Dapper03:56
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alishait recognized the adapter03:56
alishabut only allows wep03:56
brush01ukGood night ALL  from the U K   - Take care       byeeeeee03:56
alishai don't see any other choice03:56
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delta____alisha: Do you have the supplicant daemon for WPA installed?03:57
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Juanis there any way to disable the lock screen?03:57
alishano don't know what that is but the adapter is in networking03:57
Juanlike, just use the login screen instead?03:57
delta____alisha: Ah, I see, you're trying to install things GUI-only. I am sorry, but only got it working with editing config files manually03:58
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alishaoh dear is there a guide somewhere?03:58
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francoisKingsqueak, ok now i have to reboot with the new drivers running ? and then run xterm ?03:59
delta____alisha: There's lots of guides for Debian. Pick one, have fun03:59
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Kingsqueakalisha what linux are you running...which release?03:59
grndslmcynical...still doesn't help...i think the problem is with windows.  i don't think it allows you to connect until there is at least one character in the username field.  if there's nothing there, the "ok" button isn't even available03:59
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Kingsqueakfrancois you are mixing up the issues03:59
dudesmithyHello everyone....I have a quick (hopefully) installation question03:59
Kingsqueakxterm should have worked for you already03:59
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Kingsqueakalisha apt-get install network-manager and gnome-network-manager04:00
DanSchnellCan someone answer my question?04:00
francoisKingsqueak, it did and i could see the font no problem04:00
grndslmdudesmithy, just ask the question04:00
Kingsqueakalisha after that, start up  nm-applet04:00
francoisKingsqueak, but i'm just running the generic "nv" drivers right now04:00
cynicalgrndslm: I dont understand what could possibly be wrong though. The windows machines in my house don't require authentication to connect to me, and if you are using my config file it wouldnt make sense for it to not work04:00
Kingsqueakfrancois o.k. so you have the issue I had, the only way I fixed it was to run Beryl instead of compiz04:00
rgahow is HD Sata in Ubuntu? sda? no hda?04:01
Kingsqueakfrancois I don't have much else to tell you other than it was a color mapping issue I never fixed04:01
grndslmcynical...i totally agree...non-sensical04:01
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m4jqpKingsqueak, it's not a beryl or compiz problem yet, it's a drivers and config file problem04:01
dudesmithyI have an existing system (WinXP) with running in Raid 1.  I have a  3rd Hard Drive that I want to install edgy on...Anything special I need to worry about?04:01
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francoisKingsqueak, ok weird, but thanks for the help, i'm trying to get the new beta drivers to work, and when i use them it screwed up all my fonts, so its weird,04:01
Kingsqueakm4jqp the window manager doesn't like his drivers, it's color mapping04:01
m4jqpKingsqueak, can't use beryl if you can't read any text on anything04:01
baxter_kylieHi. How do I enable table completion on an additional user?04:01
rgahow is HD Sata in Ubuntu? sda? no hda?04:01
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cynicalgrndslm: I'm sorry I couldn't help you :(04:01
Kingsqueakm4jqp just starting beryl-manager fixed me right up04:01
grndslmcynical, it's all good...maybe i'll just start over again and hope it works04:02
m4jqplol his kwin wont show text04:02
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DanSchnellSomebody? Anyone?04:02
baxter_kylierga: nvidia sata in amd64 is broken.04:02
grndslmcynical, quick question, tho....what do the ;'s at the beginning of the lines mean?04:02
m4jqpKingsqueak, his kwin wont show text04:02
Xaserhey guys, Just wondering if someone could try to fix my problem, I have 2 ubuntu boxes that are having troubles connecting to the net. My Windows machine works fine. the Network works fine between them all, and one can get to some websites but not others..  any ideas guys?04:02
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Kingsqueakm4jqp but you can still type in it04:02
cynicalgrndslm: It means the lines are commented out04:02
cynicalgrndslm: so samba ignores them04:03
Kingsqueakm4jqp I typed 'beryl-manager' in a blacked out term04:03
m4jqpKingsqueak, lol04:03
Kingsqueakpoof it fixed it04:03
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Kingsqueakotherwise if he disables glx I bet it goes away04:03
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m4jqpKingsqueak, does your metacity/kwin have color ? or is beryl the only tihng that works?04:03
jordanDanSchnell: Could you refrase the question, you can run the liveCD with an nVidea card.04:03
DanSchnellI am not able too04:04
francoisKingsqueak, ok i'll try disabling glx and then beryl-manager04:04
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Kingsqueakm4jqp I haven't tried the others04:04
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grndslmcynical...just wondering why it uses two different characters for commenting out lines04:04
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Kingsqueakfrancois try beryl-manager first04:04
baboI can't even hear system sounds ... :-(04:04
grndslmi guess just for looks04:04
m4jqpKingsqueak, lol04:04
jordanDanSchnell: What happes when you try?04:04
babocan anyone help ?04:04
Kingsqueakfrancois if that doesn't fix you, then disable glx04:04
DanSchnelljordan: this is what happens: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29087704:04
francoisKingsqueak, ok, thanks a lot for the help04:04
Juanis there any way to disable the lock screen? like, just use the login screen instead?04:04
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Kingsqueakfrancois you should be able to just fire up beryl-manager right now in the running session04:04
Kingsqueakfrancois type it into the xterm you opened04:05
dudesmithyI have an existing system (WinXP) which is running in Raid 1 (SATA).  I have a 3rd Hard Drive (Also Sata) that I want to install edgy on...Anything special I need to worry about?04:05
francoisKingsqueak, yeah but i gotta reinstall it first04:05
Kingsqueakheh k04:05
jordanDanSchnell: Can you get to a tty?04:05
DanSchnelljordan, sorry i don't understand what you mean04:05
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rgahow it is Hard Disk SATA in the Ubuntu?04:06
abovettjuan: do you mean you want it to automatically log you out? That would close all your apps.04:06
Juann ope04:06
rgahow it is Hard Disk SATA in the Ubuntu? /hda?04:06
Juani have  more than 1 user04:06
Juanand i just wanna switch04:06
Juanwithout login out04:06
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jordanDanSchnell: You can get to a terminal by pressing alt + F2, and it doesn't require graphics drivers to see it.04:06
abovettjuan: oh I see - not sure, sorry.04:07
Juanbut when i re login to an open session, i get prompted for  password twice04:07
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DanSchnelljordan, Ok.  Then what do I do?  I've tried changing my graphics driver and everything.04:07
Juanon the login screen and the lock screen04:07
XaserHey Guys, I have 2 ubuntu boxes that are having trouble connecting to the net. I also ahve a win box the works fine. All connect to each other fine. I can get to some websites but not others. Any ideas PLS?04:07
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jasonGood evening04:08
DanSchnellJordan, btw, i've tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart after reconfiguring and it says GNOME display manager fails...04:08
jasonI have two problems with my edgy upgrade.04:08
voraistosXaser it must be some proxy related problem04:08
jordanDanSchnell: You can try installing nvidia's proprietary drivers, I can help you with that.04:09
jasonFirst, Disks has disappeared off my System: Admin menu.04:09
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DanSchnellJordan, do I need to actually have Ubuntu installed, or can I do that from LiveCD?04:09
Xaservoraistos: I have no proxy setup04:09
abovettXaser: might be a DNS issue. Have you tried using the IP addresses of some of the sites you can't get to - see if you can reach them via address when you can't via name?04:09
jasonSecond: update-manager shows two greyed-out packages listed as distribution upgrades but I can't update them.04:10
abovettXaser: What happens if you try to ping the site syou can't reach?04:10
jordanDanSchnell: If you have enough RAM on the machine you can do it on the LiveCD04:10
DanSchnellJordan, I do.04:10
Xaserabovett: I cant ping them either04:10
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abovettXaser: what is the error message? CAn you ping them by address rather than name?04:11
voraistosXaser what is your actual network config ?04:11
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jordanDanSchnell: Are you booted into the liveCD now?04:11
todesengelhow do i get WMV files working?04:11
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:11
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Xaserabovett: sry I can ping them by www.google.com  so to me that not  a DNS prob04:11
todesengelinstalling ffmpeg plugin doesn't work04:12
todesengeldo i need to go find another codec?04:12
DanSchnellJordan, No.  I don't really have time tonight to do it.  Will you be here tomorrow?04:12
voraistosXaser that doesnt mean anything.04:12
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reikiWOOT! I got World of Warcraft running in Wine on Edgy! I am so happy... hehehe04:12
voraistosXaser it could be DNS related anyway04:12
delta____reiki: Grats :)04:12
Xaservoraistos: what can you suggest then?04:12
jordanDanSchnell: Possibly, around what time?04:12
abovettXaser: what do you mean? Give an example of a site you _can't_ reach04:12
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dudesmithyI have an existing system (WinXP) which is running in Raid 1 (SATA).  I have a 3rd Hard Drive (Also Sata) that I want to install edgy on...Anything special I need to worry about?04:13
voraistosXaser i would like to know what is your LAN config first04:13
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delta____Is one of you guys running Dapper's OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 and has hyphenation support for English text? I haven't...04:13
Xaserabovett: I cant access www.google.com via firefox, but can ping it04:13
DanSchnellJordan, Anytime after 5 p.m. CST04:13
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Xaservoraistos: what do you details do you want?04:13
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voraistosXaser router config, etc ...04:13
jasonsorry to barge in04:14
grndslmok..anybody here besides cynikal know how to use connect a windows computer to samba?04:14
kitchegrndslm: yes you will do //<ip of computer with samba>/share04:14
erickhi all, how can i install apache tomcat in ubuntu Edgy?04:14
Xaservoraistos: ip, mask
burnickwhy does the prism2_pci module detects my wireless prism 2 built card04:15
jordanDanSchnell: Probably, so you don't clog up the main channel, try asking for me in #ubuntu-bots every once in a while since I don't know when / if I will be on.04:15
abovettXaser: what happens if you put the address of a site you can't reach by name into the browser?04:15
voraistoswindows computers connecting to each others have always been a problem for some reason04:15
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grndslmkitche, yea...but it asks for user/pass pass verification and won't allow me to click "ok" until i enter at least one character04:15
voraistosXaser, gateway ?04:15
jasonWhere has the Disks utility gone in edgy?04:15
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kitchegrndslm: yeah it will you need a samba user there is a guest setup also for samba04:15
abovettgrbdslm: what's the problem? I've got some windows and samba boxes talking OK?04:15
jordanjason: It isn't maintained anymore AFIK04:15
jasonWhat does one use instead?04:16
jordanjason: Possibly gparted?04:16
Xaserabovett: no good, stil times out04:16
voraistosXaser use DNS server as
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jasonI've got an external USB disk that doesn't get autodetected.04:17
Xaservoraistos: yes thats right for the DNS04:17
jordanjason: Or I think you can still install the old disks manager04:17
DanSchnelljordan, how do i ask for someone in #ubuntu-bots04:17
grndslmkitche, so...what do i do?04:17
jordanDanSchnell: Just post asking if the guy you talked to yesterday is here every few minutes.04:17
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cynicalgrndslm: heres a good resource, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba04:18
voraistosXaser. what does proxy config say ?04:18
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burnickwhy does the prism2_pci module detects my wireless prism 2 built card as wired connection?04:18
bubba_jonesanyone familiar with ndiswrapper?04:18
voraistosXaser, system preferences. advanced config04:18
DanSchnelljordan, like how...?04:18
kitchegrndslm: setup a samba user or use a guest account for samba04:18
Xaservoraistos:in the browser? Direct connection04:19
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voraistosnope. in system menu04:19
dudesmithyI have an existing system (WinXP) which is running in Raid 1 (SATA).  I have a 3rd Hard Drive (Also Sata) that I want to install edgy on...Anything special I need to worry about?04:19
grndslmkitche...so, will uncommenting the "guest account = guest" line be good enough?04:19
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kitchegrndslm: yea probably you will probably have to setup a password for it but guest doesn't have write permissions04:20
Xaservoraistos: same there tooo04:20
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voraistosin the advanced tab04:20
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voraistosXaser, what does it say ?04:20
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Xaserlocalhost   127.0.0/8    *.local04:20
Xasersry it was
XaserLOL any more ideas?04:21
voraistosunderstood that ;)04:21
Xaserits really annoying me..04:21
voraistosand your win box can access it ? yeah, strange04:21
erickhi all, how can i install apache tomcat in ubuntu Edgy?04:21
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spiderwormhello all, can anyone tell me, does edgy use udev ?04:21
Xaserwas the same when I had fedora core 5 on there too04:21
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Xaseryeah win box work 100%04:22
voraistosXaser, you dont have wifi ?04:22
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XaserI do, but not on the linux boxes04:22
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aw420hi i have just installed 64bit edgy today and i followed the instructions to get automatix2 and that went fine my only problem is that im still unable to play windows media 9 files04:22
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voraistosXaser. what is your ISP ?04:22
bimberispiderworm: yes04:23
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AlanHaggaicynical : I have a question04:23
spiderwormbimberi: did dapper use udev as well or did it start with edgy?04:23
cynicalAlanHaggai: shoot04:23
voraistosXaser, what kind of network adapter do u have? brand, etc..04:24
bimberiaw420: 64bit + codes = no go (afaik)04:24
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bimberispiderworm: yes, dapper does too04:24
AlanHaggaicynical : I have done everything as you have said and now I can write to the NTFS partitions. The problem is with the icons.04:24
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bimberiaw420: *codecs04:24
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jasonCould my external drive not be showing because it's HFS+?04:25
spiderwormbimberi: can you think of any change that would cause pptp connections to fail from edgy, connections that worked fine in dapper?04:25
voraistosXaser, what is your ifconfig ? you can paste it in #voraistos instead of pastebin04:25
AlanHaggaicynical : In the desktop, only sda5 has been given the icon of a hard disk. All the others are having the icons of folders. How to change them too?04:25
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aw420bimberi: what about 32 bit mplayer and and 32bitcodecs04:25
bimberispiderworm: no sorry04:25
spiderwormnp, thanks for your help04:25
ericksomebody help me, how can i install apache tomcat in ubuntu Edgy?04:25
bimberiyw :)04:25
Xaserone has Dlink 1gig, and on board 1gig, other has a DEC 10/10004:25
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jasonIs it not in the repos?04:26
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bimberiaw420: idk, i've only used 32bit04:26
Xaserboth auto dectect no probs and network to each other fine04:26
ehj20Xaser: what does in firefox do?04:26
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voraistosXaser: what about ifconfig ?04:26
cynicalAlanHaggai: Hmm I cant answer that. They should all have shown up with hard disk icons. Sorry :\04:26
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Xasergets google  :S04:26
AlanHaggaicynical : no problem :)04:27
cynicalaw420: are you talking about mplayer/codecs on 64-bit?04:27
highnekoI'm looking for a computer that'll work good with a ubuntu 64-bit installation cd. After reading alittle I think AMD Athlon would be good. How's this computer? http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10079969&catid=20217&logon=&langid=EN04:27
dudesmithyI have an existing system (WinXP) which is running in Raid 1 (SATA).  I have a 3rd Hard Drive (Also Sata) that I want to install edgy on...Anything special I need to worry about?04:27
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ehj20perhaps firefox has a DNS cache04:27
voraistosXaser: seems like a DNS problem. definely04:27
lostboyzi have a question i am trying to upgrade ubuntu but when i get to configurign in apt it says it is not possible04:27
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aw420cynical: yes04:27
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Xaserbut I tried the aussie google addy and no go04:28
grndslmkitche...so, could you explain step by step how i can possibly setup a samba user to share files between a windows and ubuntu boxes?04:28
abovettXaser: obvious question - you have tried closing and restarting Fireox I assume?04:28
cynicalaw420: you can compile the latest mplayer, it includes native support for the wmv codec. http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html04:28
Xaserabovett: yes  hehehe04:28
lostboyzfor xubuntu'desktop acpid acpi'support04:28
brueniggrndslm, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20260504:28
voraistosabovett he said he had the same problem on a different distro04:28
abovettXaser: might be worth running a packet sniffer and seeing what's going on.04:28
bimberierick: edgy has tomcat5 and tomcat5.5 packages (in universe) - try searching via http://packages.ubuntu.com04:29
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abovettvoraistos: sorry - have been away from the conversation for a while. My bad.04:29
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XaserI do thank you both for trying04:29
voraistosabovett: i am not sure this guy can run a packet sniffer04:30
grndslmbruenig...thanks, will look into it04:30
ehj20Xaser: have you tried another browser?04:30
__mikemcan someone here help me with a thunderbird problem?04:30
voraistosXaser: yeah like w3m04:30
Xaserehj20: no04:30
grndslmcynical...so, samba's the "easiest" to setup, eh?04:30
voraistosXaser try w3m google.com04:30
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voraistosin a console04:30
ChocoCidSo, got a question.04:30
cynicalgrndslm: for me it was automatic04:30
ChocoCidWhy does left alt do something different than right alt?04:31
cynicalgrndslm: not sure why you are having so much trouble04:31
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ChocoCidnamely, in firefox 2.0 (actually swiftfox) left alt+ arrowkeys work to go back/forward, and right alt doesn't04:31
dragoonI'm using edgy, but there's two packages which I'd rather use the dapper version of, so I rebuilt them for edgy. How can I make synaptic not upgrade them? Lock version or Force Version doesn't seem to work.04:31
grndslmcynical, it's all good...i like a challenge from time to time04:31
voraistosChocoCid: 2 different keys, 2 different actions :)04:31
ChocoCidso what's right alt do?04:31
abovettvoraistos: what about running ethereal? Maybe one of us could look at the logs and see what's going on?04:31
ChocoCidand/or is there a way to remap it?04:32
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voraistosChocoCid: depends of what software you are running :P04:32
voraistosabovett : yeah04:32
ChocoCidubuntu edgy, gnome, swiftfox 2.004:32
m4jqpdoes xorg 7.1 work in ubuntu?04:32
duskall my screen fonts (proggyfonts.com) look very blurry in edgy, is there a workaround?04:33
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voraistosChocoCid: on firefox it would probably be the same. on gnome... gnome is not really just software. but if you run metacity, compiz or beryl, ull see the difference04:33
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ChocoCidyes, i run beryl at times04:33
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ChocoCidand it totally breaks some of my shortcuts04:33
abovettXaser: can you run ethereal whilst trying to browse and save a log? Maybe one of us can look at it?04:34
ChocoCid(that i have set in metacity)04:34
bimberim4jqp: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) has xorg 7.104:34
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ChocoCidso... how do i set right-alt to do the same thing as left-alt?04:34
voraistosXaser. you have to install ethereal04:34
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twitchcould someone kinda help me out with getting my ATI card working? i have tried many times and the x server doesnt start at the boot up (pain to fix)04:34
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ChocoCidtwitch : you can start X manually?04:35
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voraistosChocoCid: depends of the software again. you have to see that in the soft's config itself. Or try to look in system preferences.04:35
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ChocoCidvoraistos: exactly which software? firefox/swiftfox?04:35
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dudesmithyI have an existing system (WinXP) which is running in Raid 1 (SATA).  I have a 3rd Hard Drive (Also Sata) that I want to install edgy on...Anything special I need to worry about?04:36
voraistosChocoCid: uh. ure being too specific. but i dont think you can set it up nin firefox nor swiftfox04:36
Clarrisahaving a brain fart...how do I search for a file or folder in linux? I'm trying to use ls -R <filename> but it always says no such file or directory even when I know it's there04:36
ChocoCidClarrisa: locate filename04:36
voraistosChocoCid: i think you should take a look in your keyboard config04:36
twitchyes chococid i know how to start X manually04:36
ehj20find / -name ....04:37
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bimberiClarrisa: find . -name filename04:37
ChocoCidtwitch: then just put the command sequence you use there in your startup?04:37
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Clarrisabimeri, does that support wildcards?04:37
ClarrisaI"m actually trying to see where imagemagick is installed04:37
duskall my screen fonts (proggyfonts.com) look very blurry in edgy, is there a workaround?04:37
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bimberiClarrisa: find . -name "*string*"04:37
sidWhat is a good application for designing a flier?04:37
ChocoCidClarrisa: probably /usr/bin/imagemagick04:37
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__mikemlook I really need help with mozilla thunderbird, the smtp settings that work fine on my ubuntu box for the same e-mail account don't work on my windows machine. The mozilla and thunerbird chanels are empty. Could someone tell me what to do?04:38
ChocoCidsid: imagemagick, gimp, krita04:38
wdhey anybody used enlightenment with ubuntu?04:38
bimberisid: inkscape04:38
twitchits not that i dont know how to start it but ATIs are known to be stubborn and i get the error of "no screens found" almost every time and have never gotten any picture to display other than using a vesa driver04:38
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ChocoCidoh, dur, for whatever reason meta is set to the right alt key >:[04:38
funshineBearsomebody, pls help. i upgraded from xubuntu dapper to xubuntu edgy by editing my sources.list file and then running the upgrade commands via CLI, but now xserver won't work. i've tried asking xubuntu chatroom, but it seems we're stuck. please advies04:38
twitchi am willing to put up my xorg.conf04:38
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m4jqpis edgy > dapper?04:39
ChocoCidheh. i've got to figure out a place to put meta , super, and hyper04:39
bimberisid: sorry, scribus (not inkscape)04:39
ChocoCidm4jqp : depends on what you're using them for04:39
bimberim4jqp: edgy is the latest release04:39
spiderwormdoes anyone know if there has been any major firewall change from dapper to edgy that might hinder a pptp server from responding to a connection request?04:39
azurealsound is kernel independent...and because of that I am screwed unless i ... reinstall?!04:39
wdanybody use enlightenment?04:40
ChocoCidwd: i used it04:40
ChocoCidit broke04:40
ChocoCidi removed it04:40
abovettfunshineBear: I had something similar. You may find that some of the packages didn't update. Can you  boot to a comsole?04:40
ChocoCidthat happened in the span of about 10-15 minutes04:40
sidbimberi: ahh, that's what I had opened before I asked the question. good suggestion04:40
markedwardshi, I'm trying to do a custom build of the netatalk package, and I'm running into the following error: gpg: skipped "Sebastian Rittau <srittau@debian.org>": secret key not available04:40
wdChocoCid really04:40
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m4jqpso for coolness you use edgy04:40
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TheZorkhey guys04:40
voraistosXaser. are u done ?04:40
ChocoCidi preferred beryl's setup anyway04:40
markedwardsshould I do the build without gpg, or is there a better way to fix this?04:40
wdChocoCid  no way, what happened04:40
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TheZorkis there any bugs with the edgy amd64 installer04:40
funshineBearabovett: i think so04:41
Xaserstill getting an internet borwser  LOL04:41
TheZorkmine keeps freezing at 44 percent04:41
ChocoCidoh, mainly the fact that i couldn't get a lot of stuff to work04:41
ChocoCidscreens went blank04:41
ChocoCidhad a hell of a time trying to get it to log out04:41
bimberim4jqp: they're both pretty cook :) but edgy is more up to date04:41
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voraistosabovett : you might have to keep up with this guy. its 3 41 AM here. i need some sleep. i should get up in 2 hours04:41
ChocoCidcouldn't switch back without restarting X04:41
bimberim4jqp: *cook04:41
bimberim4jqp: *cool (sheesh)04:41
aSt3raLhow do i install the flashplugin-nonfree for edgy on amd64?04:41
roughtradercan anyone recommend a good bittorrent client?04:41
dragoonAnyone have experience locking personally-built packages so they're not upgraded? Care to share them?04:41
abovettfunshineBear: try sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:41
alpha255roughtrader, azurus?04:42
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wdChocoCid sh_t.   hmmmmm, i'm stuck on ubuntu especially because of the support. but elive sure looks pretty nice.04:42
aSt3raLanyone know where theres a amd64 flash package?04:42
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abovettvoraistos: same problem here!04:42
alpha255roughtrader, java based04:42
ChocoCidno clue what elive is04:42
roughtraderazureus consumes too much resources04:42
abovettShould be asleep!04:42
bimberidragoon: did you install the package using an apt tool?04:42
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roughtraderI'm thinking along the lines of C++ based04:42
funshineBeari've done that already, but if you think it will help, i'll do it again04:42
ChocoCidvoraistos: thanks, i moved my meta key to a key that's not on my keyboard since i never use meta :P04:42
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roughtraderlike utorrent for windows04:42
dudesmithyI have an existing system (WinXP) which is running in Raid 1 (SATA).  I have a 3rd Hard Drive (Also Sata) that I want to install edgy on...Anything special I need to worry about?04:42
wdenlightenment company made distro using debian.04:42
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Xaservoraistor: for the ethereal, I would need the debian package?04:42
ChocoCidwd: isn't enlightenment "basically" dead?04:42
spiderwormbimberi: im thinking that something is blocking the pptp server's ability to respond to my client.... like a firewall or something..... do you know perchance if there have been firewall changes in edgy?04:42
wdChocoCid not sure04:42
ChocoCidi thought there hadn't been updates on it in a long time04:43
TheZorkanyone have any input on why edgy install freezes at 44 percent??04:43
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wdChocoCid  oh.04:43
voraistosXaser: yeah. just apt-get it ! sudo apt-get install ethereal04:43
ChocoCidi dunno, beryl/compix is hotness, enlightenment may just be yesterday's news anyway04:43
dragoonbimberi, dpkg. I rebuilt a dapper version package for edgy, as the new version is eh..04:43
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spiderwormroughtrader: i like ktorrent04:43
markedwardscan anyone give me some debuild advice?04:43
abovettfunshimeBear: Yes - you may need to do it more than once. You may also need to do some other things but try that a couple times first.04:43
spiderwormroughtrader: but then, im using kubuntu04:43
bimberispiderworm: i'm not aware of any, but i'm not in that sort of loop though04:43
bimberidragoon: if so, you can use "Lock Version" from the Package menu in Synaptic04:43
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spiderwormbimberi: do you know who i could bug about this?04:43
roughtraderyuk, kde04:43
wdChocoCid i seem to keep coming back to ubuntu, gnome.... lol....    o' faithful...04:43
ChocoCidberyl runs on top of gnome actually04:44
roughtraderkde has to be the ugliest thing on the face of the planet04:44
ChocoCidit just replaces metacity04:44
ChocoCidand yeah, agreed on that point04:44
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ChocoCidthought i don't mind kde apps inside gnome, like krita04:44
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ChocoCid(and man, the new krita is awesomeness)04:44
spiderwormChocoCid: agreed04:44
wdChocoCid  educate me krita?04:44
ChocoCidif you do any image editing at all, get krita04:44
roughtraderI just got my new Dell 2407WFP today04:44
roughtraderthis display rocks04:44
ChocoCidi think sudo apt-get install krita gets it04:44
bimberispiderworm: not really, reporting a bug is the best way to get a devs attention04:44
spiderwormwd: it's like gimp, but with a good interface, and layer folders!04:44
wd ChocoCid better that inkscape?04:44
ChocoCidmight have to get all of koffice04:45
ChocoCidwd: different04:45
ChocoCidinkscape is vectorbased04:45
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ChocoCidkrita is raster-based04:45
abovettXaser, voraistos: will have to go now. Xaser: will try to check in 12.00am UK time tomorrow.04:45
ChocoCidthey serve entirely different purposes04:45
ChocoCidreally not comparable04:45
spiderwormim really happy about layer folders04:45
spiderwormwtf is up with gimp developers04:45
ChocoCidand it's not like you can't run both :P04:45
wdChocoCid  ok. i just want to edit and tweak reg. jpegs and thngs.04:45
ChocoCidkrita's pretty good at that04:45
Clarrisasigh... I did an apt-get for imagemagick.  apt-get did it's thing...installed it, but I still can't find it on my damn drive..... argh!!04:45
aSt3raLanyone know how to install flash on amd64 edgy?04:45
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aSt3raLim having problems04:45
roughtraderis it possible to configure port-forwarding with the gnome bittorrent client?04:45
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ChocoCidClarrisa : it should be in your menus04:46
cynicalaSt3raL: there is no 64-bit flash04:46
dragoonbimberi, how would I install personally-built packages through apt?04:46
TaPiOnHow can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????04:46
Flanneldragoon: through dpkg not apt04:46
wdChocoCid still dual booting like me or strictly linux?04:46
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cynicalroughtrader: you configure port forwarding using your router04:46
aSt3raLcynical: i have to compile from source then?04:46
Clarrisachococid.  I'm only at the command line.... I don't have a gui installed04:46
ChocoCidwd: i "can" dual boot04:46
spiderwormdragoon: dpkg -i <package>\04:46
cynicalroughtrader: do you know the make and model of it?04:46
spiderwormwithout the trailing \04:46
ChocoCidClarrisa : do "locate imagemagick | less"04:46
voraistosXaser: i live in UK too... i need to go to bed :( sorry. but after install, launch  sudo wireshark. select your capture device and capture. you might see things by yourself04:46
wdChocoCid but?04:46
ChocoCidwd: i don't ever load windows anymore04:46
FlannelaSt3raL: there's no source04:47
abovettfunshineBear: have to go now. Try apt-get dist-upgrade a couple of times, then perhaps apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (or xubuntu-desktop if that's what you're running).04:47
cynicalaSt3raL: no, there is no amd64 version yet, and adobe has not yet announced when or if they will make one04:47
holycowChocoCid, pretty cool eh?04:47
regeyasatan, thy true name is edgy04:47
wdChocoCid  u bold...lol    i wish i could.04:47
roughtradercynical: i know how to configure the router, but gnome bittorrent has to know the port number04:47
ChocoCidwhy can't you?04:47
dragoonflannel spiderworm: Yeah, I know that, the question is then how do I lock those personally built packages so the inferior but updated edgy packages don't replace them.04:47
wdholycow  damn long time.04:47
roughtraderthe number itself can be arbitrary04:47
cynicalaSt3raL: most people just install a 32-bit binary of firefox for flash04:47
XaserTYVM Voraistos04:47
holycowwd lol04:47
holycowwhere ya been hidin?04:47
ChocoCidholycow: i've hated windows for years04:47
regeyac'mon, ubuntu-base and upstart list dhcp3-client as a dep?  meh.04:47
aSt3raLFlannel: what about the non-free version?04:47
Flanneldragoon: pinning them04:47
wdChocoCid because of certain software.04:47
jtf0518I have to use and support Windows all day so I hardly ever load Windows at home....unless I'm feeling constipated.04:47
ChocoCidonly recently got into linux because until i heard of ubuntu i thought linux was a server type thing04:47
FlannelaSt3raL: the non-free version is non-free because there is no source.04:47
ChocoCidthe stuff the layperson "knows" about linux is quite awful04:48
cynicalroughtrader: I've never used gnome bittorrent, it doesnt have preferences of some kind?04:48
roughtraderunfortunately, no04:48
dragoonFlannel, I thought pinning was for repositories, it works for local packages too?04:48
spiderwormdragoon: good question04:48
wdholycow  ubuntu blues, with that lexmard printer so i stuck with windows, but i just bought a linux / windows printer so i'll try it again... lol04:48
cynicalChocoCid: very true, everyone I know thinks its all command line and extremely complicated04:48
ChocoCidwd: which software exactly?04:48
roughtraderso is azureus any good? or does it consume all memory after a while of usage?04:48
bruenigroughtrader, crazy memory usage04:48
cynicalroughtrader: damn, I would suggest at least using deluge if you dont like azureus04:48
regeyadon't know how difficult it is to install transmission on this platform, but on os x I use transmission, and it > *04:48
ChocoCidroughtrader: i used azzy on windows before, i've used it on linux, the memory usage is basically java-type issues04:49
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ChocoCidit's not much worse than firefox afaik04:49
grndslmsoo...anybody gotta clue as to whether i need to add the windows user's name to my box before i can connect with samba??04:49
bruenigroughtrader, it is not uncommon for it to be running at 100 MB, at least it wasn't for me04:49
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cynicalroughtrader: no actually it doesnt. It uses only 80mb of memory on my computer04:49
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regeyatransmission should be gnome-philosophy-friendly too...don't know how hig-compliant it is04:49
TaPiOnHow can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????04:49
Flannelgrndslm: you don't04:49
roughtraderthat's why I like C-based clients04:49
Flannel!samba | grndslm04:49
ubotugrndslm: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT04:49
roughtradertomato torrent for mac and utorrent for windows are both great04:49
ubotubittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 556 kB04:49
ubotuTorrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html04:49
mkobyI was once at school discussing a computer that I fixed with some classmates, and some idiot walked up and said"Oh yeah? I can fix computers too, I'm smart,"04:49
Clarrisachococid, my hell I'm mentally challenged.... typing locate imagemagick returns nothing...just brings up the ubuntu prompt again... adding the pipe with the less command puts a blank screen with the word [end]  at the bottom04:49
grndslmwow...i wonder how many samba guides i can get in an hour04:49
cynicalbruenig: is that really a lot? Most people have at least 512MB of memory these days04:49
holycowwd, we switched to brother04:49
roughtraderi'm not sure what client is like that for linux04:49
holycowall brother models work and they offer even debian installer04:49
ChocoCidClarrisa: that means imagemagick isn't being found04:49
Clarrisachococid and yet I know it just installed imagemagick a second ago04:50
ChocoCidthat's... odd04:50
wdChocoCid  uh oh another linux can beat windows speech....lol. well, ok i got one for u, my cell phone ring tone software, money ( i know there gnucash) no the same.04:50
ChocoCidtype "man imagemagick" in the command line04:50
cynicalroughtrader: well deluge is pretty light on the resources, unfortunately its not quite got all the functionality of utorrent.04:50
holycowbrother btw, happens to be owned by lexmark of all things04:50
TaPiOnHow can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????04:50
TaPiOnHow can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????04:50
ChocoCidyeah, i didn't like gnucash04:50
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bruenigcynical, for a bittorrent client, I think it is. I guess it depends on your system and your thoughts on how much a bittorrent client should consume. When something so singular in its purpose and so limited in its purpose takes up 2X as much RAM as a browser or some other fairly dynamic app, that seems a bit much04:50
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bruenigcynical, also considering the alternatives are so much lighter04:50
wdholycow thats aweful,  i mean lexmark is crap and brother got the good end of the stick...lol04:50
Clarrisachococid if I type apt-get -f -y install imagemagick again, it says "imagemagick is already the newest version.04:51
holycowso far brother is rocking our socks04:51
ChocoCidClarrisa: could try remove and install again04:51
Cronhalguien de espaa,porfavor?04:51
ChocoCidthe one thing I know windows has that isn't quite as good on linux is a spreadsheet program04:51
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:51
holycowproducts are really handling well ... very surprising04:51
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roughtraderthe issue here is only the port-forwarding04:51
wdholycow i have a hp 3100 series all in one and i made sure it was linux compatible.04:51
ChocoCidexcel is > oocalc :(04:51
Clarrisacd usr04:51
TaPiOnHow can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????04:51
Clarrisacd bin04:51
spiderwormCronh: que deseas04:51
holycowwd it is?04:51
cynicalbruenig: well I have 1GB of memory, and to be honest, when using windows I could understand calling azureus a memory hog. But in linux I rarely use above 300MB, even after I load everything I could possibly use at one time04:51
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ChocoCidlol, i do that all the time Clarrisa04:51
roughtraderif I could only get gnome bittorrent to be configured to the right port...04:51
holycowhp is known for having shit support for their scanners04:51
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holycowwd, coo to hear that you researched your hardware before you bought :)04:52
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ChocoCidmy parents had all kinds of issues with windows, they had winMe04:52
plutoQuestion about source list ~ What is the purpose of source list.d?04:52
holycowi wish everyone did that, then 3/4rs of the crap companies would dissapear out there04:52
grndslmFlannel, you got any idea why windows would require me to type in a username/pass to connect to samba?04:52
ChocoCidi set themselves up ubuntu and they've had no problems04:52
bruenigcynical, yeah. I am limited to 512 MB and I think my onboard graphics card reserves a portion of that. So I have to keep it a bit low04:52
ColdFyrecan someone running dapper paste the cdrom line form /etc/apt/sources.list?04:52
wdholycow well when i was at the store i went online to hp and saw the deb installer info on it before i bought it.04:52
cynicalbruenig: so for me, it just seems moot to complain about memory usage, I mean any memory that isnt being used is being wasted (at least in windows, I understand linux has a way of dealing with unused memory)04:52
ColdFyreor pm me it04:52
roughtradershoot, how do I group tar a bunch of tar.gz files?04:52
Flannelgrndslm: because you need one, linux would too.  A samba username/password04:52
holycowwd, since when does hp have deb installers?04:52
roughtraderI'm trying tar xzvf *.gz04:52
roughtraderbut it's giving a bunch of errors04:52
grndslmFlannel, could you explain how i'd set that up?04:53
cynicalFlannel: you dont need one04:53
Flannelgrndslm: the links ubotu gave you has all that info04:53
wdholycow well it showed a linux installation page...04:53
teledynroughtrader: uncompress or compress?04:53
TaPiOnHow can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????04:53
TaPiOnHow can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????04:53
dragoonAlright, looks like I can pin local packages, but it's complicated. Ah well.04:53
roughtraderteledyn: uncompress04:53
holycowwd,  thats VERY new.  they NEVER used to do that04:53
_goofy_anyone know of a program to tell me if a HDD is about to fail04:53
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bruenigcynical, like right now, I have gaim, xchat, firefox, and utorrent running, and I am at 140 MB usage. It seems kind of absurd to have a bittorrent client consume nearly as much as all of that04:53
grndslmyea, i've read howtos for the past hour, and they're all different04:53
alpha255_goofy_, smart04:53
Flannel!repeat | TaPiOn04:53
ubotuTaPiOn: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience04:53
mkobyI've got a Belkin 802.11g USB adaptor, and I'm having trouble getting it to work, can anyone help me?04:53
bruenigcynical, and rhythmbox, forgot to mention that04:53
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ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:53
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alpha255_goofy_, smart there should be a package that will check the smart status on the drive04:54
Slor|AFKHello all04:54
grndslmFlannel, and there's like 100 different places where there's a separate need for a username...i don't get why this is so damn hard04:54
bruenig!hi | Slor|AFK04:54
ubotuSlor|AFK: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!04:54
_tg_I want to install ubuntu but someone told me I should back-up windows how can I do that04:54
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teledynroughtrader: for file in *.tar.gz; do tar -xzf $file; done04:54
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bruenig_tg_, do you have a cd or dvd drive and some blank cd04:54
bruenigcd's or dvd's04:54
roughtraderteledyn: noted, but I get a stream of errors04:54
Slor|AFKI'm very new to Ubuntu (but old with Linux)04:54
_tg_I dont have any cds04:55
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roughtradertar: blahblah.tar.gz: Not found in archive04:55
cynicalbruenig: Yes  you do have a good point. If there were a linux clients that supported encryption and dht I'd switch but until then some of us just dont even have a choice *sigh*. Azureus has so much functionality they really should look into optimizing it now, and lowering its memory usage04:55
wdholycow anyway i tried gentoo, but after 4 days of compiling and system on 34 of 154 apps i said forget it, it worked and was blazing fast. i like the concept of gentoo being "built for u" i mean the compiling to ur architecture and all but i figure ubuntu is just as fast if i chose xfce or fluxbox04:55
Flannelgrndslm: you have a samba user/password, because samba needs to know who you are, and you might not want some users to be able to have samba access, which is why you need to set them up initially, instead of it re-using your linux ones04:55
lib8264qcan someomne tell me the command for reconfiguring xserver-xorg ? ty04:55
roughtraderrepeated for each file I try to group uncompress04:55
bruenigcynical, utorrent has it.......04:55
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holycowwd actually all of that is crap gentoo users tell each other04:55
teledynroughtrader: oops04:55
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cynicalbruenig: yes but I'd rather not wine my torrent client04:55
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wdholycow no  lol04:55
holycowco compile you haveto have A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE04:55
Slorgot a quick question - I want to install on a Sun Enterprise 420R .  Is there a preference between 6.06 and 6.10?04:55
eSeongi wish i could get some help on my dlink dwl-12204:56
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lib8264qcan someomne tell me the command for reconfiguring xserver-xorg ?04:56
eSeonganyone here could get it to work on ubuntu ?04:56
mkobySlor: Where's you get your's?04:56
holycowmost self compiled apps are not even marginally optimal as they are compiled by know nothing noobs04:56
teledynroughtrader: for file in *.tar.gz do; tar -xzf $file.tar.gz; done04:56
Slorthe server?04:56
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wdholycow hmmmj.04:56
mkobySlor: Yes, I've got three.04:56
Syco54645cd #slackware04:56
alpha255what's the difference between the desktop and alternate iso download?04:56
holycowthere are tons of tests out there that simply prove gentoo overall is slower than a simple debian base install04:56
SlorMy office gave away some old equipment.04:56
holycowits all nonsense04:56
teledynroughtrader: actually no.  the first one should have been correct04:56
holycowgentoo is great if your a dev and need that flexibility but04:56
mkobySlor: But haven't played with them much, what are they like?04:56
wdholycow come on man04:56
holycowits also retarded because you still have that here with source packages04:57
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SlorWhere are you located, just for fun?04:57
mkobySlor: Bethesda, MD.04:57
bimberidragoon: using checkinstall (sorry got called away)04:57
mkobySlor: You?04:57
bruenigholycow, it depends on the user. If you know what you are doing, it will probably be better. If you don't know or don't care to put the effort in maintaining a system like that, probably not.04:57
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TaPiOnHow can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????04:57
holycowwd, take it or leave it, i do this for a living.  research what i'm tellin gyou an dyou will see that for most use cases its completely correct04:57
SlorOk.  Just wondered because I took this from a rack of 4.  Thought perhaps you were the other recipient. :)04:57
eSeonganyone here could get dlink dwl-122 usb to work on ubuntu ?04:57
Clarrisawhat does it mean when I type exit and bash says "There are stopped jobs."  what do I do?04:57
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SlorI'm in Indianapolis, IN.04:57
holycowbruenig, thats what i wrote actually ... most users don't know and will never actually gain the knowledge04:58
mkobySlor: Nah, I bought mine without rails or bezels or any plastiat04:58
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dragoonbimberi, ah, no, I built it as a standard deb already. And you can pin specific versions through /etc/apt/preferences, but thanks for the tip.04:58
wdholycow well, i know that ubuntu is fast with fluxbox and even faster with xfce but fluxbox doesn't work with nautilus and xfce's right click feature kept quitting on me after term closed.04:58
holycowyou really haveto know your stuff to truly optimize things at that level04:58
SlorI'm not sure if I need to stick with the 6.06 that appears to be fully supported or if I should go to 6.10.04:58
SlorOh, ok.04:58
bimberiClarrisa: type 'fg' to bring them to the foreground04:58
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eSeongah sad, no one can help me =.=!04:58
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SlorThe plastic just breaks anyway.04:58
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mkobySlor: I'd stick with 6.06, because it's only going to get more refined and polished.04:58
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Slorwow this is a busy channel.04:59
bimberidragoon: np, yes I think synaptic plays with that file.  It just provides a nice interface :)04:59
Clarrisabimberi.... oh no , now I am in some endless loop from when I typed find blah | less04:59
alpha255what's the difference between the desktop and alternate iso?04:59
bruenigholycow, ok, well I agree then. It looked like you were making a real blanket statement there. Gentoo is also fun because it forces you to  learn more, which some people need. Some people if given the option to just click something instead of understanding it will probably choose the former unless they weren't given that option. So gentoo can also serve that purpose04:59
bimberiClarrisa: ctrl-C04:59
teledyneSeong: google is your best bet for a specific model like that04:59
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holycowbruenig, thats what its fore yup04:59
bimberi!alternate | alpha25504:59
ubotualpha255: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.04:59
holycowit is very much a ricer distro :)04:59
eSeongteledyn : i tried mostly on the ubuntu forum, i still can't get work..04:59
cynicalalpha255: the alternate iso provides a text based installer for slower computers while the desktop iso is a livecd, letting you test ubuntu without actually installing it on your computer04:59
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dragoonbimberi, well, it didn't seem to want to in this case, probably because my self-built files weren't in the repo. Ah, the waste that could be avoided if the devs actually upgraded the program when they bumped the version!05:00
Gexpersonally i liked gentoo.. i just didn't like how it took hours to emerge something like openoffice.05:00
TaPiOnHow can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????05:00
bimberialpha255: whereas the desktop cd is a live cd05:00
cynicalalpha255: its recommended to use the desktop cd if you have a computer with above 200MB of memory and around an 800mhz processor05:00
SlorOh, one other thing05:00
bimberidragoon: kk05:00
wdholycow  hey i just upgrade to amd sempron 2800, 512 ram, feel like a big dog.... lol... anyway edgy works but i'm reading alot of 64 amd problems in forums. i uninstalled and partitioned. can i run 32 bit on my amd64?05:00
eSeongteledyn : unless, someone have a working dlink dwl-122....05:00
SlorDoes the SPARC build support multi-processor out of th box?05:00
alpha255cynical, thnx :)05:00
mkobywd: Yes.05:00
Sloror will I need to rebuild the kernel05:00
cynicalalpha255: sure :)05:00
TaPiOnHow can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????05:01
wdmkoby no05:01
alpha255cynical, I can install from the live/desktop cd too right?05:01
holycowwd,  not sure i don't run 64 bit as its pointless05:01
mkobywd: It won't use the 64 bit features, though.05:01
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GexTaPiOn: it should say on the bottom left05:01
jribTaPiOn: view > stream and media info, don't be afraid to explore the menus05:01
mkobywd: Oh?05:01
chapiumgex, me too.. i screwed a few things up, went to reinstall and lost patience.  The frustration was exacerbated by a funky heat monitor on the motherboard that thinks its over heating if its halfway compiling through openoffice05:01
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cynicalalpha255: yes, when you boot there will be a small icon on your desktop labeled, install05:01
wdholycow dang..... why u say that?05:01
wdholycow lol05:01
alpha255cycom, sweet thanks! :)05:01
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TaPiOnHow can I know the video lenght with vlc ???? in a shell !!05:01
chapiumholycow: best handle ever05:01
holycownothing can use 64 bit cpus except things that need 64 bit registers or things that need access to a lot of ram05:01
wdmkoby which features?05:02
teledynTaPiOn: stop flooding the channel with the same question every 10s please05:02
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cynical64-bit isnt pointless05:02
TaPiOnteledyn awser me05:02
cynicalin certain applications it can make a huge difference in speed05:02
wdholycow uh oh, cynical has spoken..lol05:02
cynicalbut the hassle for beginners usually isnt worth it05:02
teledynTaPiOn: actually, you're going on my ignore list right now.  bye05:02
Earthenanyway to do a quick repair after a failed upgrade atempt05:02
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wdcynical get em05:02
TaPiOnfu teledyn05:02
mkobywd: I really don't know, I think it's more on a low-level difference.05:03
wdcynical  lol05:03
holycowtypically you only see performance gains with 64 bit with things like 3d renderers, video editing, etc.  very few users even have a clue as to what 64 bit really is05:03
Gexchapium: oh man... i first loaded it onto an old laptop.. and it was my first linux experience.. so it was good.. but the late nights troubleshooting through things like ndiswrapper wireless stuff almost killed me.05:03
cynicalcompare compiling or encoding video using a 32-bit and a 64-bit processor05:03
jimmygoonCan I get some help quickly: I need to use the LiveCD ... but I need access to the DVD drive to burn a backup dvd (bit of a frantic emergency right now!!!!)05:03
jimmygoonWhat do I do?05:03
mkobyndiswrapper is a bitch to configure.05:03
cynicalthe difference is huge05:03
holycowcompiling would be another yes05:03
holycowbut then again, regular users don't compile or use gentoo05:03
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eSeonganyone here could get dlink dwl-122 usb to work on ubuntu ?05:03
wdcynical processing graphic?05:03
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cynicalholycow: but yes I agree with you, most users are in over their heads when they try to use it05:03
SlorI compile plenty, but gentoo is still a little more effort than I care to go to at installation.05:04
holycowgraphics are handled by gpu at this point unless of course your running linux with vesa in which case you still won't see any difference05:04
akijikananyone: I made a modeline for my 1440x900 monitor using http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl and when I reset x server the monitor lost signal and it never came back05:04
cynicalwd: you see the differences in a lot of memory intensive apps05:04
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cynicalyes it wouldn't make much of a difference in gaming really05:04
wdcynical holycow well i did the 64 edgy, but wine doesn't work, and 32 codecs, so darn , do i have to downgrade to 32?05:05
jeff__how do i copy and paste in CLI if mouse doesn't work? (My xserver is broken)05:05
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holycowwd, its linux dude, you don't haveto call nobody to get an activation code05:05
teledynjeff__: gpm05:05
cynicalwd: Well for wmv support you just have to compile mplayer05:05
jimmygoonCan I get some help quickly: I need to use the LiveCD ... but I need access to the DVD drive to burn a backup dvd (bit of a frantic emergency right now!!!!)05:05
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cynicalwd: the latest version supports it natively05:05
wdholycow lol05:06
teledynjeff__: but beware because it can mess up mouse support under x05:06
wdcynical  ok so get the mplayer tar and compile?05:06
NightHawkedapper and a intel 915 video chipset, i cant see the full sized install screen05:06
holycowwd now i remember you, you like to do everything the hard way05:06
wdholycow   hey......lol05:06
Gexwd you can probably just use apt-get to install mplayer.05:06
jeff__teledyn: so what should i do? how can i know if it will in fact make a problem?05:06
holycowj/k :)05:06
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wdGex thanks05:07
EarthenAre allot of people have trouble upgrading to edgy05:07
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wdholycow ok i'm going to try this again.05:07
teledynjeff__: read the docs about editing your xorg config for use with gpm05:07
NightHawkehow can i force the display to change to 800x600 or higher?05:07
holycowif you believe slashdot Earthen then yes, but then again if you believe slashdot ronald mcdonald is real05:07
holycowhows THAT for a non answer?05:07
Slorwell crap - illegal instruction trying to install 6.0605:07
mkobyholycow: Well said.05:07
jeff__teledyn: ok05:07
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nick_hello gentlemen, anyone try out compiz in the new edgy?05:08
cynicalwd: no you have to compile mplayer05:08
wdholycow cynical look, i just dl illustrator and studio 8 for windows, linux can't pull off apps like those. can it? gimp, no.05:08
Earthenwell I tryed it and now my gnome crashes when I try to reboot or shut down and it has killed my wifi card LOL05:08
tritiumcynical: mplayer is in the repos05:08
jimmygoonCan I get some help quickly: I need to use the LiveCD ... but I need access to the DVD drive to burn a backup dvd (bit of a frantic emergency right now!!!!)05:08
Lathiatjimmygoon: can't do that im afraid05:08
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Lathiatjimmygoon: need a second cd drive05:08
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cynicaltritium: not the latest version. He wants wmv support on 64-bit edgy, you have to compile mplayer for that05:09
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holycowwd, and we JUST KNOW that you paid for those ... right?05:09
chimpskyjimmygoon: it's not that hard to create your own usb key from the live cd05:09
holycow*wink* *wink*05:09
chadwhat is the chmod command..to add user rights?05:09
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alpha255nick_, compiz worked in dapper on my centrino notebook05:09
teledynjimmygoon: rsync your data off the drive via network05:09
cynicalchad: chown username /path/to/directory05:09
chimpskyjimmygoon: I had to do it in order to install on my intel forsaken 965 board05:09
wdholycow why of course..... wink05:09
holycowwhen you actually pay for any of your adobe products than come back here and gloat05:09
Flannelchad: change file permissions.  chown changes file owners, both usually shouldn't be used.05:10
regeyaall is well.05:10
jimmygoonno time :( thanks guys... any other ideas... how much would it kill me to enable ntfs-3g on a livecd of dapper?05:10
cynicalyes I assumed you wanted to change owners05:10
Flannelchad: or rather, most of the time your permission issues should be dealt with with sudo, not chown/chmodding05:10
wdholycow i did uuuhhhh, it cost me a a lot of money...05:10
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nick_alpha225: arent there just a few commands that will enable it in edgy?05:10
chadwell..i installed vmware player as root.. and now i need to start it from console all the time with sudo05:10
alpha255ahh just make everyting 777  ;)  << ment to be sarcstic05:10
mkobyholycow: would you know how to get a Belkin05:11
holycowbelkin what?05:11
eSeonganyone here could get dlink dwl-122 usb to work on ubuntu ?......05:11
mkobyholycow: would you know how to get a Belkin 802.11g USB adapter to work?05:11
teledynjimmygoon: throw another drive in the machine05:11
mkobyholycow: f*cking enter key.05:11
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totall_6_7eSeong: your question was answered:  <teledyn> eSeong: google is your best bet for a specific model like that05:11
jimmygoonteledyn: its a laptop :(05:11
holycowmkoby, nope dude, sorry, i research products and buy only what is known to work, not the other way :/05:11
jimmygoonthe only ext-hd we have is NTFS :(05:11
wdcynical compile mplayer? get the tar.gz? how?05:11
regeyaI had assigned eth0 a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, ans some wiseacre made the decision to a.) automagically run dhcpclient on boot and b.) make dhcp a requirement05:11
regeyatake that, joker05:12
teledynjimmygoon: external usb drive?05:12
bimberijimmygoon: can you copy files to another PC via the network?05:12
mkobyholycow: Would you be able to recommend something that will?05:12
cynicalwd: http://www3.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/MPlayer-1.0rc1.tar.bz205:12
tritiummkoby: watch the near-foul langauge, please05:12
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mkobytritium: Pardon me.05:12
withaYis it possible to easily configure a static ip if you're using wpa_supplicant & network-manager-gnome?05:12
tritiummkoby: no worries05:12
alpha255eSeong, google had quite a few entries, and it should work05:13
akijikananyone: I made a modeline for my 1440x900 monitor using http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl and when I reset x server the monitor lost signal and it never came back same when I start up05:13
wdcynical i'm there, i'm on windows, i'll save it and load ubuntu and handle that. thanks.05:13
jimmygoonbimberi: thats what I'm gonna do... that or he's gonna have to shuttle stuff (imgaine floppies) with my 2gig (fat32) jumpdrive!05:13
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eSeongalpha255 : okie, i'll try again then.. :(05:13
cynicalwd: np05:13
holycowmkoby, not offhand, i mean for wireless pci/x cards its a google, if your using the usb dealie because your laptop wireless isn't supported i would google up pcmcia wireless cards those are also listed on the same page of supported cards on the ubuntu wiki05:13
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regeyanoticed on boot that my xorg.conf had been rewritten as well.  will it be left alone from now on, or am I being driven back to gentoo...05:13
mkobyholycow: Thanks for the help!05:14
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Seeker2599how do i set my internal ip address?05:14
teledynSeeker2599: man interfaces05:14
wdcynical hey, if i compile everything in ubuntu would it be to my advantage? verses precompiled apps?05:14
victorhHi, I'm having a problem with my network configuration05:15
tritiumwd: not really, no05:15
Seeker2599teledyn: wheres that?05:15
wdtritium   oh05:15
holycowman wd you really LOOOOOOOVE doing everything the hard way05:15
phI||Ipwhats that command to determine if you have 3d enabled?05:15
teledynSeeker2599: type that in a console05:15
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wdholycow   lol05:15
holycowwd, i bug ya, its cool the only way to learn actually05:15
wdholycow just want the best ubuntu can offer05:15
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CientificoLocohello everybaody I have a problem with a DVD if I want to copy file it starts to copy but ins some tell me that makes me fail with my laptop. je.05:16
victorhubuntu edgy eft is using the driver dmfe for my ethernet driver. But this driver doesn't work with my card, I need to use the tulip driver05:16
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SlorI've tried both 6.10 and 6.06 on my Sun server, and both have ended with Illegal Instruction during ramdisk load.  Anything specific I should try next?05:16
wdholycow remember when i dive in i really dive in...lol05:16
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Seeker2599teledyn: ok now what05:16
CientificoLocothere is something that I can install and speed my reader DVD?05:16
teledynSeeker2599: read what it says05:16
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Katsu|How do i change my 6.10 to Japanese language?05:16
victorhHow can I configure my card in ubuntu edgy eft?05:16
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CientificoLocovictorh: which one card?05:17
puneithi... I was upgrading from dapper to edgy and on restart X has failed to load...can anyone help05:17
victorhit's a Davicom card05:17
wdtritium  it's just that , well, everytime i load ubuntu and give a twirl, after loading apps it get's all slow.05:17
victorhan ethernet card05:17
CientificoLocoit confinges automatic when you install ubuntu05:18
cynicalwd: well yes, generally its better to compile apps against your specific architecture05:18
wdtritium thats why i tried gentoo05:18
wdcynical  ok05:18
wdcynical  but wasting time huh?05:18
Seeker2599ty teledyn05:18
victorhin other distros I use the tulip driver but ubuntu has chosen the dmfe driver05:18
tritiumwd: in general, you get diminishing returns for all the effort05:18
wdtritium  oh i see.05:18
victorhuntil now I have failed to change that configuration05:18
akijikandoes ANYONE here know ANYTHING about modelines in xorg.conf05:18
withaYhow can i assign myself a static ip when connecting through network-manager-gnome?05:18
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cynicalwd: some people dispute whether or not its faster. I personally noticed a big difference when I was using gentoo. Unfortunately it just takes too long to configure every single setting, so I decided not to deal with it :P05:18
victorhin ohter distros I change it in /etc/modprobe.conf05:18
puneithi... I was upgrading from dapper to edgy and on restart X has failed to load...can anyone help05:18
regeyaakijikan: I know mine got nuked on upgrade, and it better not happen again05:19
victorhbut there is no such file in ubuntu05:19
wdcynical  ok.   i really see.  yeah after day 5 i quit on the minimal install.  lol05:19
phI||Iphow do I test to see if 3d is enabled?05:19
Katsu|How do I change language to Japanese?05:19
teledynpuneit: check the x server log for errors05:19
puneitteledyn: how do i do that05:19
grndslmcynical...definitely needed to use the default conf file, chmoded directory for luck, & smbpasswd05:19
puneitteledyn: I am kind of a novice05:20
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CientificoLocohow do I accelerate my CD/DVD reader?05:20
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wdcynical holycow  tritium   r u guys solely on linux or still dual booting05:20
tritiumCientificoLoco: make sure dma is enabled05:20
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teledynpuneit: logs are kept in /var/log/05:20
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tritiumwd: I have linux, Mac OS X, and Windows05:20
CientificoLocodma tritium??05:20
puneitteledyn: ok...what do I need to see in the log and what can I do with it05:20
teledynpuneit: less <log file name>05:21
regeyapuneit: make sure xserver-xorg is installed.  if it is, /etc/X11/xorg.conf probably got toasted.  you should have a backup in /etc/X11 tho.05:21
ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA05:21
CientificoLocotritium: how can I do tthat?05:21
tritiumsee baove05:21
tritiumabove even ;)05:21
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regeyapuneit:  also, if you're an ubuntu user, make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed, kubuntu-desktop if you're a kubuntu user...I had a fair amount of trouble with the upgrade meself.05:21
puneitregeya: I am an ubuntu user..05:22
AdamKilidoes ubuntu get fragmented like windows does? do i need to run a defragmenter?05:22
regeyapuneit: the good news is that most the problems are pretty easy to fix05:22
tritiumwd: and you?05:22
puneitregeya: Once I have located the backup file..what do I do05:22
holycowAdamKili, no, remember this: forget everything you learned on windows ... its wrong.05:22
wdtritium  by the way, how do i get that deleted linux partition which is showing up in xp as unallocated space back into my win partition anyway?05:22
Kingsqueakhttp://www.kingsqueak.org/stuff/tilt_cube.png   a rough Beryl screenshot if anyone was curious05:23
regeyaAdamKili: the only time you'll run into major fragmentation is if you run out of storage space and delete/create a lot05:23
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regeyaAdamKili: I think the max I've had in the last few years is about 8% fragmentation...no, it's not a concern :-D05:23
wdtritium   well, winxp / linux  but edgy was very edgy on some apps, so deleted partitioned but i'm thinking about gong back right now.05:23
tritiumwd: you could use gparted or qtparted to grow the windows partition, I believe05:23
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picassohi.. i just upgraded to 6.10 on my dell laptop (ati videocard) and now my xwindows wont load up05:23
tritiumwd: going back to what?05:23
AdamKiliregeya: where do i check my fragmentation?05:23
picassoanybody know what i can try?05:24
regeyaAdamKili: it's not a concern, trust me :-D  you'd get a report if you have to run fsck manually at some point05:24
XiocideWould anyone be willing to give me some help using Ubuntu's Live setup to fix my MBR?05:24
holycowjust as a notice to anyone repartitioning IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO GROW/SHRINK NTFS PARTITIONS05:24
holycowunless your nicely backed up05:24
KingsqueakI blew my XP up the last time I did that05:24
Kingsqueakworked for four systems, blew the install for one05:24
tritiumholycow: your nicely backed up what?05:25
AdamKilii just want to check....my dad's wondering about it05:25
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wdtritium ok. going back to ubuntu tonight. another try at it. i got frustrated about wine not supported for amd 64 and win 32 codecs and i read something about chroot then install codecs, oh my ,  head start spinning..lol05:25
Kingsqueakuse partition magic or XP to shrink first to be sure05:25
XiocideI reformatted a secondary drive, and now I get "error 17" from GRUB. I want to use Ubuntu to fix/repair my MBR so that my primary partition (XP) boots.05:25
tritiumah, holycow meant "you're", not "your"05:25
picasso"module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1)"05:25
tritiumwd: cool :)05:25
picassodoes anyone know what causes tat error?05:25
holycowtritium, lol05:25
KingsqueakXiocide you used the installer to shrink the part?05:25
wdholycow well in that case how can u get the parttion back if u delete the linux partiton?05:25
lukebwhen I use beryl as my window manager, the borders to all my windows disappear05:26
tritiumwd: if you want wine, stick with 32-bit to avoid frustration05:26
lukebdid i install it incorrectly?05:26
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holycowpicasso, grub cant find your kernel.  i forget what the fix is but theres a bunch of things on google for that.  i fixed it once but don't remember how05:26
XiocideKing: I have XP all alone on one drive. I had SuSE on a second IDE drive, but reformatted it to NTFS to store some DVDs on..05:26
Kingsqueaklukeb it probably crashed if you have no borders05:26
wdtritium so use dapper?05:26
XiocideKing: after that, when I reboot, I get that grub error; now I'm trying to get my maind rive to boot.05:26
puneitregeya: kindly tell me how to restore to the original xorg.conf05:26
KingsqueakXiocide ah, you just need to get the entries sorted out in /boot/grub/menu.lst05:26
regeyaoh, um, puneit if you're in /etc/X11 you could just try to cp xorg.conf.whatevertheextensionis xorg.conf that's essentially what I did05:26
picassohrm, holycow, any suggestion for google search terms?05:27
KingsqueakXiocide try googling or the ubuntu wiki for that, there's a trick to it05:27
puneitregeya: thanks05:27
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elwwhat the hell is a symbol in the context of the "strip" command?05:27
KingsqueakXiocide has to do with 'hiding' and tricking XP to think it's on the first drive in the system05:27
XiocideKing: the only file in /boot/grub is device.map05:27
regeyapuneit: patience.  I have a 1.5 year old in this house.  YOU tell her someone wants xorg.conf fixed right now plsthx :-)05:27
AdamKiliis anyone else having trouble with the gDeslets official site? i can't download any desklets. are there other sites with desklets?05:27
tritiumwd: you can use dapper or edgy.  your choice05:27
KingsqueakXiocide odd, so Grub is your boot loader right?05:27
XiocideKing: yes, well it was.05:27
tritiumelw: calm down, amigo05:27
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chimpskyanyone here have luck getting an nvidia 7900gs running?05:28
KingsqueakXiocide so when you boot you get nothing or just trouble with XP?05:28
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XiocideKing: I get nothing. GRUB "loads" and then craps out saying "Error 17"05:28
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Kingsqueaklukeb click on the ruby and tell it to restart beryl or use the window manager menu in there to re-select beryl, see if it starts up again05:29
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puneitregeya: I have done that...let me now restart and see if it works..thanks a lot... i will log back in if it doesn't work...05:29
astx813OK, on average, how many people are having 'easy' upgrades from Dapper?05:29
CientificoLocotritium: sorry can you pass me the site again I had to reboot my laptop becouse for cause od my CD reader05:29
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KingsqueakXiocide ah ok, you need a 'install Grub HOWTO' then05:29
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lukebKingsqueak, it just reverts to compiz (which incidentalyl doesnt have window borders either)05:29
KingsqueakXiocide pretty sure I've seen that all mapped out on the wiki05:29
XiocideKing: what if I want to remove GRUB? (since I only have XP now)05:29
Kingsqueaklukeb ah, not sure there, you enabled glx in xorg.conf right?05:29
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wdtritium  kde uses more resources right?  i mean gnome is simple  but my box keeps slowing down after a few apps are installed. i'm thinking about something lite, fluxbox, but doesn't play nice with nautilus, at least it didn't.05:30
Kingsqueaklukeb just to check, you have nvidia or ati for a card right?05:30
lukebKingsqueak, Nvidia - im pretty sure its enabled ill check05:30
ubuntu_newbI love ubuntu, it was so easy to set up a web server on my ubuntu machine05:30
ubuntu_newbI don't even have the server edition05:30
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KingsqueakXiocide ah, you need to run the Windows mbr thing to fix that, I'm totally not sure what the command is05:30
wdubuntu_newb was that hard?05:30
KingsqueakXiocide you fix that with a util on Win install media though05:30
XiocideKing: it's fixmbr but I dont have an XP disc05:30
ubuntu_newbno, I downloaded a file and it installed and configured everything05:30
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Kingsqueaklukeb go through the howto for installing/configuring Beryl on the Ubuntu wiki05:31
CorpseFeederif I click on the "audio" tab in winecfg it crashes with error "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory" - what do I need to do to fix this?05:31
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lukebKingsqueak, yeah thats how I installed it05:31
astx813I've got ndiswrapper, and it works if I do modprobe ndiswrapper, but it's not coming up on its own when I reboot (yes, I've tried ndiswrapper -m)05:31
KingsqueakXiocide k, well you could try installing Grub and just using that to chain load XP05:31
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lukebKingsqueak, xorg.conf does say Load           "glx"05:31
KingsqueakXiocide just use the live cd and follow one of the howtos for installing GRUB05:31
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ubuntu_newbyou can see that my server is up at http://act.homelinux.com05:31
Kingsqueaklukeb you disabled dri and glcore too right?05:31
wdubuntu_newb web server as in ur own website box kept at home for ur website? or a like a fileserver for multiple computers at home to save files on?05:32
XiocideKing: any certain howto you'd recommend?05:32
wdubuntu_newb  i'm going there now.05:32
ubuntu_newbit's a full featured apache webserver with php mysql etc...05:32
Kingsqueaklukeb err not glcore, but comment out dri05:32
ubuntu_newbI'm using it for testing purposes05:32
h3htimocould someone explain to me why mesa keeps installing when i use this?? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide05:32
KingsqueakXiocide not specifically, just look for any general how to install GRUB and just keep in mind that the root(0,0) drive declarations are to point at your XP drive05:33
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XiocideKing: ok thanks05:33
lukebKingsqueak, its not even there. ill try restarting the PC brb05:33
astx813I'd rather avoid ndiswrapper, but as far as I know it's mandatory for Broadcom chips05:33
wdubuntu_newb having a hard time loading page05:33
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ubuntu_newbthere is no page05:34
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ubuntu_newbit will just bring you to a directory05:34
wdubuntu_newb  i'll keep trying05:35
ubuntu_newbthat is the address to my server.05:35
grndslmubuntu_newb...definitely no directory05:35
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rredd4i just installed edgy, it installed the generic kernel.  I need to install ndiswrapper, in the past, i had to have the 686 kernel.   Will ndiswrapper work with the generic kernel?05:35
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astx813rredd4: Yeah, the generic stands in nicely for 68605:36
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ubuntu_newbhere is the package I used to make my ubuntu a web server...05:36
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wdubuntu_newb thanks05:36
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ubuntu_newbuse that link to download the ubuntu package05:36
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reinhi anybody know how I can get a ati card to use graphics accel?05:36
ubuntu_newbjust run the package and it will install/configure your server05:36
rredd4astx813  ok, guess i will try... ty05:36
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ubuntu_newbit will install apache2 php5 and mysql 505:37
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amy__ /server gimpnet05:37
lukebKingsqueak, it worked - all it needed was a reboot hehe05:37
reinI have fglrx install05:37
grndslmubuntu_newb...you either need to refresh dyndns's record of your ip...and/or forward port 80 requests from your router to your server's local ip (i.e. -
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ubuntu_newbyeah I did that but perhaps my ip changed on this computer05:37
Kingsqueaklukeb the module loading is a bit weird at times on boot, I put gdm in to start at level 90 in inits and it helped quite a lot05:37
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ubuntu_newbhow can I see my ip on ubuntu?05:37
ubuntu_newblocal ip that is05:38
surekhaCan someone help me setting up SSI on apache2 on ubuntu dapper?05:38
Kingsqueaklukeb if that means nothing to you, just ignore it ;-)05:38
surekhaI tried everything mentioned in this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerSideIncludes05:38
surekhabut no luck05:38
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grndslmubuntu_newb, if you want a static ip on your local ip....you need to set it in /etc/network/interfaces05:38
lukebKingsqueak, consider it ignored :D05:38
firebird619I have Edgy installed. My graphics are built-in Intel i810. In Synaptic, both xserver-xorg-video-i810 and xserver-xorg-video-i740 packages are installed. Should the xserver-xorg-video-i740 package be installed?05:38
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rredd4astx813  when i want to install nvidia glx, it also wants to install the 386 kernel, which i don't want.  What do i do please?05:39
Kingsqueaklukeb Beryl tip, hit your mouse cursor in each corner, try it with multiple things open on multiple desktops05:39
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MoRpHeUzhi guys...I'm having an interesting problem on a notebook with dual core processor. The kernel is already compiled with SMP but "cat /proc/cpuinfo" keeps showing only one core...do you have any ideas where can be the problem ?05:39
wdtritium what do u recom. for a speedy ubuntu? fluxbox or xfce?05:39
astx813rredd4: dunno, haven't gotten that far05:39
lukebKingsqueak, holy crap thats awesome05:39
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Kingsqueaklukeb ctrl-alt- arrow keys too05:39
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Emessis there a way to set wine to act as xp in its look, or even the kde and beryl theme im using?05:40
elwhow do you list all the channels?05:40
Kingsqueaklukeb ctrl-alt click and drag with left mouse button too05:40
astx813Is anyone having luck with a broadcom wi-fi chipset?05:40
bimberifirebird619: it just means that the driver is available, not necessarily used.05:40
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Emessprobably the best feature of beryl si ont eh edge fo teh screen the windows list05:40
KingsqueakEmess , windows list?05:40
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:41
CorpseFeederwinecfg crashes when I click the audio tab. "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457: (snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory" and also "Error: "/home/name/.kde/socket-name-desktop" is not a link or a directory."05:41
grndslmubuntu_newb, this is exactly what you need to do to setup a static ip on your local lan: http://pastebin.ca/23385005:41
Emessit shows allt eh windows spread over it to select05:41
firebird619bimberi: It is acually installed though?05:41
picassoOk. According to ubuntuforums, I need to install package xserver-org-video-all to get my video drivers (newly upgraded 6.10) ... however apt-cache search xserver-org-video doesn't find anything05:41
KingsqueakEmess ah  ctrl-alt-d  ?05:41
grndslmubuntu_newb, just make sure to set your ip outside the range of dhcp on your router05:41
rredd4has anyone install nvidia glx in edgy?  i want to use the generic kernel.  But the nvidia glx install also wants me to install the 386 kernel.  What do i do?05:41
KingsqueakEmess err  ctrl-alt-spcbar05:41
picassoanyone know why i couldnt find xserver-org-video-all or xserver-org-video-ati packages?05:41
bimberifirebird619: yes, the package and its files are installed, the driver wouldn't be in use though.  That package is installed on my system and I have nvidia05:41
elwhOw Do YoU list all of the channels?05:42
EmessKingsqueak: ctrl-alt-d? ctrl-alt-spcbr? they didnt do anything...05:42
rredd4no quotes05:42
bigslam./list yea:P05:42
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Kingsqueakelw  /list  but it's huge , do   /list something to search for05:42
bigslam./list linux05:42
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grndslmelw, you can't list all the channels on freenode...go to searchirc.com or something like that05:42
elwodd, its not working for me05:42
bigslamyea you can05:43
KingsqueakEmess ah? 'd' was a mistake but ctrl-alt-space  should flatten all your desktops05:43
bigslamit depends on the server05:43
GaiaX11Suppose  I am doing a dist-upgrade and the light is off. Will my system break?05:43
firebird619bimberi: I was just wondering because I have been having problems with Ubuntu, something with gdm and drivers.05:43
bigslamthe leaf05:43
KingsqueakEmess maybe different versions of Beryl05:43
Music_ShuffleGaiaX11: Which light...?05:43
chimpskyGaiaX11: are you running under windows with the shades up?05:43
elwhey, what does this code do ? ":(){ :|:& };:"05:43
GaiaX11Music_Shuffle: I mean the electric energy05:44
EmessKingsqueak: desktops being the faces of the cube? i used to have 6 virtuals but now im limited to 4 :(05:44
KingsqueakGaiaX11 if you mean the power goes out, yeah it could be a problem for sure05:44
CorpseFeeder/list with no .05:44
bimberielw: it's a fork bomb, don't paste it again please05:44
Music_ShuffleGaiaX11: Ouch. ./Sympathy.05:44
KingsqueakEmess yup05:44
KingsqueakEmess you probably have it, but mapped to different keys than I do05:44
bruenig6 virtuals, my god, for what purpose?05:44
Emessalso, does nayone know how to make beryl display on ehte windows on the current cube face on that faces taskbar instead of every window?05:44
Music_ShuffleDon't cubes usually have 6 faces? Sounds like a good enough purpose to having 6. :P05:44
KingsqueakEmess top right corner with mouse cursor05:44
Emessctrl-alt-d dpoes it for me lol05:44
EmessKingsqueak: that works on all corners05:45
picassohooray, it works, i typed xserver-xorg-video-all wrong (xserver-org-video-all)05:45
Emessi knew that one alrady05:45
KingsqueakEmess it's different in each corner on mine05:45
CorpseFeederhow do I stop winecfg from crashing?05:45
Emesswhat should it do in each corner?05:45
KingsqueakEmess lower right is clear, upper is expose current, lower left is expose all open apps05:45
KingsqueakI forget what upper left is05:45
KeyseirWhere do I go to check what hardware I have connected? Ubuntu Dapper05:45
GaiaX11Kingsqueak: But, can i start from where it stopped?05:46
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EmessKingsqueak: theyr allt eh same for me05:46
leofenderhi to all05:46
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gib_Is there a hack that will allow transparent endcaps on panels in Gnome?05:46
KingsqueakGaiaX11 not likely, I would STRONGLY recommend you don't do an upgrade with an unstable connection or power issue05:46
KingsqueakEmess ah, odd05:46
KingsqueakEmess F-keys maybe?05:46
CorpseFeederis there a separate channel on here for wine specific help?05:46
leofenderyou know some linux game for play on line ?05:46
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KingsqueakF10 F11 F12 etc05:47
KeyseirHow do I see what hardware I have connected?05:47
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KingsqueakKeyseir what type?05:47
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KeyseirI'm looking for specs on my dvd burner05:47
Keyseirso, media drives05:47
EmessF8 does teh same as corner05:47
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Kingsqueaktry cdrecord -inq driveropts=drivequery  I think05:47
chapiumkeyseir google the model #05:48
leofenderplay some linux game ?05:48
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noxxleim trying to share a folder with a windows xp system on my network. however when my friend tries to access my folder it asks him for a username and pass. WTF05:48
h3htimowhy do i keep getting the mesa driver and not ati whenever i do an fglrxinfo???05:48
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zenmonkquestion, i am trying to set up the script listed here: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/h/797 does anyone know how?05:49
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KingsqueakKeyseir that get you what you wanted?05:49
KeyseirI think it did05:49
KeyseirThanks Kingsqueak05:49
Gexnoxxle: i've had that problem. usually just hit enter and you're fine.05:49
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Kingsqueakalso 'dmesg' and kern.log or boot.log in /var/log/messages05:49
noxxlei cannot hit enter05:49
leofenderi need help please05:49
noxxlethe login button doesnt allow unless i have a name05:49
leofenderim new in linux05:50
KingsqueakKeyseir if you want to know if cdrecord sees the drive    cdrecord --scanbus    if it shows there, it's likely good to go05:50
CorpseFeederwinecfg - it crashes. I can find lots of threads on forums about this crashing when you click audio tab, but every forum thread seems to get a different error to the one I am getting. help!05:50
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CorpseFeederif I search for my specific error, I get no search results ;(05:50
h3htimois mesa the default video driver with fglrx?? can you change it to ati??05:50
KeyseirKingsqueak: I'm just trying to find the write speed my drive. I think the ID is all I need to google05:50
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KingsqueakKeyseir cdrecord is smart about that generally if you just don't give a speed= option05:51
KingsqueakKeyseir it will default to whatever the media and drive can handle well05:51
Gexnoxxle: try using your linux login and pass05:51
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leofenderhi or hola!05:51
leofenderi m from argentina05:51
Some_Dudeso, um... hi, everyone05:52
Keyseirkingsqueak: I don't think cdrecord is working properly, says it has problems with my kernel version.05:52
Keyseirkingsqueak: cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.05:52
Keyseirkingsqueak: Is that easy to fix..?05:52
KingsqueakKeyseir in dmesg does the drive show as a scsi drive or as say /dev/hdc ?05:52
leofenderi need a free game linux for playing on line05:52
astx813Off topic, forgive me.  Is anyone else watching Stephen Colbert?05:52
Some_DudeI just tried to upgrade to Edgy Eft and I can't seem to get anything to work anymore ... does anybody here know what unifont is and why APT wants to get rid of it?05:53
leofenderi need a free linux game05:53
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Kingsqueakleofender xfrisk05:53
KeyseirKingsqeuak: I just typed dmesg and I don't understand all the output. What do I need to look at?05:53
leofenderexample: counter strike linux version05:53
leofenderxfrisk ? what is this ?05:53
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h3htimoalright, please can anyone help, what is xorg's default video driver, and what should i get after installing fglrx... and what should i do if i dont get that???05:53
Some_DudeI feel dirty having to use a Windows IRC client05:53
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KingsqueakKeyseir try   dmesg | less    then do  /CDROM   it will go to the line where it sees it05:54
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epph3htimo, isnt it VESA?05:54
KingsqueakKeyseir should say shortly after setting up  scd or something like hdc for the device05:54
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h3htimoepp, it says mesa whenever i do a fglrxinfo05:54
leofenderplease i need help because i m new in linux05:54
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h3htimoi thought it was supposed to say ati05:54
eppyeah. its mesa. So you have ati?05:54
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Keyseirkingsqueak: Pattern not found for /CDROM05:54
Some_Dudeis there a way to run apt-get upgrade and ignore a package that refuses to be deleted?05:55
KingsqueakKeyseir yeah sorry, just do  /CD05:55
Keyseirkingsqueak; k05:55
epph3htimo, hold on05:55
Kingsqueakif that doesn't put you there, just type / again for the next entry of CD05:55
h3htimoepp, ok05:55
Milchmannleofender, do you by any chance speak german?05:55
Keyseirkingsqueak: 79575.652000]  hdc: Compaq CRD-8484B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive05:55
Keyseir[17179576.436000]  hdd: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive05:55
KingsqueakSome_Dude you could try a -f05:56
KingsqueakKeyseir you have two drives it seems05:56
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KeyseirKingsqueak: COrrecto. I believe only one was supposed to be DVD tho05:56
leofenderoh no. :( i m speak spanish and some english05:56
KingsqueakKeyseir which one do you want to work?05:56
Kingsqueakthe DVD burner seems to be hdd05:56
Some_DudeKingsqueak, I tried that ... the computer wants to remove a package called unifont and unifont returns an error when the thing tries to remove it05:56
KeyseirKingsqueak: THe dvd one. However, I believe everything is working. I was just looking for the DVD burning speed.05:56
Keyseirkingsqueak: [17179576.564000]   hdb1 hdb2 <<6>hdd: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)05:56
KeyseirKingsqueak: How do I find the burning speed for the DVD-ROM?05:57
Kingsqueakthere you go 40X likely for CD probably 8x or so for DVD05:57
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KeyseirI'm trying to see if I should just buy 8x DVDs or if I could benefit from 16x. Is there a way to check this speed locally, or should I just google the model number?05:58
KingsqueakKeyseir I'm googling it now05:58
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KeyseirKingsqueak: Well thanks then mang05:58
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:58
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KingsqueakKeyseir here you go  http://www.itreviews.co.uk/hardware/h550.htm05:58
leofenderwhats "xfrisk" ??05:59
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KingsqueakKeyseir looks like 8x05:59
Kingsqueakleofender it's networked risk05:59
epph3htimo, did you follow the guide?05:59
Kingsqueakleofender you have to start up the server on at least one box then people can connect to play risk05:59
h3htimoepp, yeah05:59
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Some_Dudeleofender:  http://tuxick.net/xfrisk06:00
h3htimoepp, i think i did it exactly, i think i used copy and paste for everything06:00
ubuntu_newbcould someone please check that for me again?06:00
Kingsqueakleofender it's pretty fun actually, just old school06:00
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Milchmannleofender, i got a nice webpage for linux gaming, but its german. but they do have some link for english pages, i just havent checked them yet06:00
leofenderthanks i will in there06:00
ArrickSeveas, you here tonight?06:00
epph3htimo, was it this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_driver?06:00
KeyseirKingsqueak: THanks mang06:00
Gexubuntu_newb: it works. i see a dir tree06:01
h3htimoepp, yup06:01
h3htimowhen i do fglrxinfo i get mesa06:01
epph3htimo, did you restart?06:01
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KingsqueakKeyseir looks like you have a good drive, also with cdrecord you may need to do   dev=/dev/hdd06:01
stylusmy websites and such are resolving really slowly now that i'm over on ubuntu. why is this and how could i fix it?06:01
epptry this again06:01
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h3htimoepp, try the regular way??06:01
epph3htimo, sudo depmod -a06:01
KingsqueakKeyseir or in the kernel boot like    hdd=ide-scsi   to make it come up as an ide scsi device06:01
noxxleim trying to share a folder with a windows computer on my network. However when i try to access the folder on my linux computer it asks for a username /pass.06:02
h3htimoepp, alright06:02
noxxleshould i be using samba?06:02
epph3htimo,  then sudo aticonfig --initial06:02
KingsqueakKeyseir if it works with   dev=/dev/hdd   for cdrecord, don't bother with the kernel option06:02
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epph3htimo,  then sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv06:02
Milchmannnoxxle, yes. i do the same here with samba06:02
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KeyseirKingsqueak: Where do I go to do this?06:02
Milchmannnoxxle, and i use the windows username & password to access the windows share06:02
noxxleyea but what is the user name and pass?06:03
noxxlei tried everything06:03
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KingsqueakKeyseir the ide-scsi thing?  You put that in the kernel boot line in the GRUB setup, try using  dev=/dev/hdd first though06:03
Milchmannif the share is on the windows computer then you need the windows username & password06:03
alpha255smbpasswd ?06:03
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KeyseirKingsqueak: I was referring to the dev=/dev/hdd thing06:04
noxxleno the share is on my linux pc06:04
noxxlei dont have a samba pass06:04
noxxlethat i know of06:04
KeyseirKingsqueak: Where do I put that "dev=/dev/hdd"06:04
Milchmannah ok, i've done it the other way06:04
KeyseirKingsqueak: Oh, cdrecord.06:04
KingsqueakKeyseir that's for commandline cdrecord06:04
Gexnoxxle: have you tried your linux username and pass?06:04
alpha255sudo smbpasswd -a  i think06:04
h3htimoepp, done06:04
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noxxlegex that was the first thing i tried06:04
mardi_soirhello i have a problem http://pastebin.ca/23386206:04
noxxleno luck06:04
noxxlejust re asks me06:04
leofenderhow can i know more about linux...?06:05
mardi_soirbut no watchdog is selected06:05
KingsqueakKeyseir    cdrecord -vvv dev=/dev/hdd driveropts=burnfree foo.iso06:05
epph3htimo, now run sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for "ati" then replace it with "fglrx"06:05
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alpha255noxxle, samba.org has terptstra's book there for you to read06:05
alpha255noxxle, it is really really good06:05
noxxlewhat!?!?! WHY doesnt it just let me connect06:05
noxxleit shouldnt be this hard06:05
Milchmannleofender go to http://www.ubuntu.com and read ;)06:05
alpha255noxxle, linux passwords and smb passwords are different06:06
noxxlei can see the folder on my windows computer. thi sis ridiculus06:06
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noxxlehow do i set an smb pass06:06
leofenderim argentino ;) :P06:06
alpha255sudo smbpasswd -a  i think06:06
leofenderi will read06:06
KeyseirKingsqueak: So I use that format whenever I burn something, where "foo.iso" is the directory I'm burning?06:06
noxxleisnt there a gui06:06
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h3htimoepp, there is no just "ati"06:06
alpha255noxxle, the smb.conf file is where quite a bit of the configuration is done06:06
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AlanHaggaicynical : Hi :). Is there any software development IDE in Ubuntu. I need to make some applications.06:07
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alpha255noxxle, also check out swat ... it's a web based interface for configuring smb06:07
eppk hold on, i dont have my laptop that has ati or this would be easier06:07
noxxleok how do i set an smb user?06:07
h3htimoepp, alright06:07
alpha255noxxle, usullay runs on localhost06:07
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alpha255sudo smbpasswd -a  i think06:07
alpha255noxxle, sudo smbpasswd -a  i think06:07
Natural_Highhey, anyone know how to disable the autologout?06:08
AlanHaggaiHi friends. Is there any software development IDE in Ubuntu. I need to make some applications.06:08
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Natural_HighAlan, check the synaptic package manager for them06:08
Natural_Highthere are plenty06:08
alpha255noxxle, -a     This option specifies that  the  username  following  should  be added  to  the local smbpasswd file06:08
epph3htimo, look for 'Section "Device"'06:08
alpha255noxxle, man smbpasswd06:08
AlanHaggaiNatural_High : What name should I search for?06:08
Natural_Highwhat language do you want to program in?06:09
Natural_Highand you can search the description of the IDE for it anyway06:09
h3htimoepp, okay i found it06:09
AlanHaggaiNatural_High : Which all languages are available?06:09
ubuntu_newbThe only open port on my computer is 80, is that all that should be open for Apache, php, and mysql to work properly with a site?06:09
mardi_soirno idea ?06:09
alpha255blankin python on the blanking plane! that's the program language ;)06:09
epph3htimo,  what does it list under driver?06:09
Arrickanybody here want to tackle a pastebot project tonight?06:10
Natural_HighAlan: ... can you program in a language?06:10
AlanHaggaiNatural_High : yes06:10
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h3htimoepp, fglrx06:10
AlanHaggaiNatural_High : I used to do in VB06:10
epph3h, k hold on06:10
epph3h. add this to the end Section "Extensions"06:11
epp        Option  "Composite" "0"06:11
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epph3htimo, add this to the end06:12
eppSection "Extensions"06:12
epp        Option  "Composite" "0"06:12
luckyonehello, I am trying to play an iso of a dvd I made using vlc and it is seg faulting06:12
h3htimoepp, did that06:12
luckyonecan anyone help?06:12
epph3htimo, now restart and check it again06:12
h3htimoepp, alright brb06:13
Natural_HighCan anyone tell me how to disable the autologout? which file to edit? anything?06:13
Some_Dudeokay, so... I've determined that unifont is merely a font and what is happening is that dpkg needs to remove this font before it does anything else and it invokes update-fonts-dir in a way that makes update-fonts-dir return an error06:14
Some_Dudewhat should I do?06:14
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bun-bundidn't 6.06 install postfix by default?06:14
Aji-Dahakablist online06:15
Aji-Dahakaoops, sorry06:15
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Natural_Highstill need help on that autologout...06:16
h3htimoepp, did it, same results06:16
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epph3htimo, what card do you have?06:16
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h3htimoepp, an ati radeon x160006:17
h3htimoepp, the driver worked perfectly in dapper06:17
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epph3htimo, nothing comes to mind as a fix. you might want to report a bug06:18
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kronomangood night06:18
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h3htimoepp, well, like my screen looks like it did before.. i just cant play games that require open gl06:19
epph3htimo, yeah. Try method two of installing the drivers.06:20
eppits more complex but it has the newer ones.06:20
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h3htimoi did06:20
h3htimosame result06:21
h3htimoim just gonna deal with it... i can use windows for games06:21
epph3htimo, but i gtg, school tomorrow. peace06:21
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eppyeah, pace06:21
kronomansimple question : how I find broken symlinks ?06:21
lostboyzhello when i try to start xorg it crashes and says ati driver not able to load06:21
lostboyzi just upgraded to edgy06:21
regeyaso, if I understand right, up until this week edgy was equivalent to debian unstable; now it's equivalent to debian testing.  up until this week tho there wasn't an equivalent to testing, just stable and unstable.  aye?06:21
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CppIsWeirdi've been doing some reading about a remote desktoping solution for linux. And i've gathered that there is some way to get X11 to output to a remote location the instance for a user. Kinda like RDP for windows.06:21
MrKeunerhi, which package do I need for reading/writing xls files in Gnumeric?06:22
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CppIsWeirdcan anyone tell me more about this to point me in the right direction?06:22
kronomanCppIsWeird: yes, you are right, you can connect remotely to X1106:22
CppIsWeirdim a heavy windows user and im a bit lost06:22
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regeyalostboys: welcome to ubuntu unstable!06:23
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kronomanCppIsWeird: maybe this will help, http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/January2002/article222.shtml06:23
kronomanis a bit dated06:24
CppIsWeirdi toyed with VNC a bit, but we have a strong need for mutiple instances of users logged into the box at the same time.06:24
CppIsWeirdis that achieveable with this X11 approach?06:24
lostboyzhello when i start xserver it says ati not able to load module mismatch what does that mean06:25
kronomanCppIsWeird: check the menu System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop.06:25
kronomanCppIsWeird: yes, you should be able to login many users to the same machine06:25
KingsqueakCppIsWeird basically you run Cygwin on windows as the X server, then run the X session or app on the remote linux box and display it back to the X server on the Win box06:25
kronomanCppIsWeird: search for ubuntu and vnc in google to find more06:25
kronomannow, to my question, anybody knows a way to find broken symlinks in a directory tree using the console ?06:26
whyameyeCppIsWeird: don't know if this is exactly what you want...but I ssh -X into linux machines all the time, logging into my acct. then running X apps.06:26
KingsqueakCppIsWeird or use Hummingbird Xceed on the Win boxes, but that has licensing costs06:26
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gameoveri want to install openmosix on ubuntu cluster06:27
KingsqueakCppIsWeird http://www.hummingbird.com/products/nc/exceed/06:27
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gameoversomeone know how?06:27
CppIsWeird"Network speed is of course an issue here but a normal 10Mbit/s LAN connection is more than enough." - How about over the internet access?06:28
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gameoverSome guide to install openmosix?06:28
KingsqueakCppIsWeird over the internet, you would really only want to run one app at a time, not a full desktop session06:29
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KingsqueakCppIsWeird using X forwarding via ssh to the remote is better, you still need a local X server running/installed though on the Win client06:29
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whyameyeCppIsWeird: I think you will get better performance remotely logging in then running your X apps, in comparison to vnc.06:29
KingsqueakCppIsWeird what is the specific application need, maybe I can help with better suggestions06:29
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duncanmanother else using compiz (not beryl) on edgy?06:30
whyameyeCppIsWeird: cygwin/x is a nice x server for Windows and you can run your linux apps from a remote machine in X this way.06:30
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KingsqueakCppIsWeird basically, what are they actually doing once logged in?06:31
duncanmi keep on seeing this in my .xsession-errors06:31
duncanmshift: 96: can't shift that many06:31
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MrKeunerduncanm: is it possible without any outside repositories?06:32
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duncanmMrKeuner: that's the site where i got the instructions06:32
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CorpseFeederwhats the command to remove non-empty directories? rmdir doesn't seem to be able to handle non-empty directories...06:33
duncanmCorpseFeeder: rm -rf06:33
GreenEggsAndSpamCorpseFeeder, rm -rf06:33
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MrKeunerduncanm: yes they are using outside repositories06:34
duncanmMrKeuner: uh huh06:34
kronomanany way of opening CorelDraw files with some Ubuntu app ??06:34
amirhey everyone06:34
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amirIs there anyway to reset ubuntu to a clean install?06:35
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CppIsWeirdsorry, i have been reading the article. The specific application i need: i am used to RDPing our windows server, and developing the web applications, configuring softwaer, and administering things in general. We have made a note to use cross platform mediums like apache, php, mysql, etc. So the administration should be the same, just not sure on how to access the box remotely.06:35
Kingsqueakamir ?  Just re-install?06:35
amirusing the CD?06:35
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KingsqueakCppIsWeird ohhh, have you tried 'rdesktop' ?06:36
CppIsWeirdwe are trying to adapt to linux for cost, and efficency. Windows is bloated.06:36
amirKingsqueak, no way to do it just through the desktop?06:36
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CppIsWeirdrdesktop as i understood it was a CLIENT for a windows server06:36
Kingsqueakamir not really besides deleting what you've installed manually06:36
KingsqueakCppIsWeird o.k. so you want an alternative to Win06:36
amirugh, alright then06:36
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KingsqueakCppIsWeird you realize that most linux tasks don't need GUI right?06:36
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KingsqueakCppIsWeird meaning all you need is ssh access to a system06:37
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amirWell thanks anyways Kingsqueak06:37
CppIsWeirdwell. i dont wanna sound like im trying to make linux windows, but beings as this swtich is now putting us behind, yes. I just want "My Desktop" from home.06:37
KingsqueakCppIsWeird if you had to fire up a GUI app, run an X server on the client end, and use ssh X forwarding06:37
blazemongeris there a prog for linx that automatically adjusts your monitor's display geometry06:37
Natural_Highhey, can anyone help me with disabling the autologout?06:37
KingsqueakCppIsWeird a full desktop in linux is just unnecessary is all06:37
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kronomana question: were all the screensaver options went in 6.06 ? my old ubuntu had more options for the screensaver...06:38
KingsqueakCppIsWeird so cygwin/x is the free way to a Win X server06:38
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CppIsWeirdok, yes, i have installed cygwin.06:38
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KingsqueakCppIsWeird then enable X forwarding in sshd_config on the server end and when you ssh -X to that server, you can run any GUI app and it will display back if your ports are open06:38
KingsqueakCppIsWeird use the cygwin ssh too, it will likely handle the forwarding better06:39
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CppIsWeirdok, one sec.06:39
KingsqueakCppIsWeird quick test is fire up cygwin x , ssh -X to the server, and run 'xterm'06:39
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Kingsqueakcygwin/x needs to be tweaked though as it isn't open for connections on the network by default06:40
Kingsqueakit only listens on loopback06:40
KingsqueakI forget where to fix that, I almost never use Windows06:40
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Kingsqueakactually, don't mind me, ssh will tunnel back and take care of that06:41
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Kingsqueakyou only need to do that for plain X connections06:41
bun-bundoes anyone get noticeable delays resolving dns queries?06:41
leofenderwhats bash and perl ??06:41
leofenderim new in linux06:41
Kingsqueakleofender bash is a shell, your commandline06:41
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Kingsqueakleofender perl is a programming language, scripting/interpreted sort06:41
leofendercan i create a script with bash ?06:41
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Kingsqueakyou can make scripts with both of them06:42
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Kingsqueaksimple scripts with bash, crazy scripts and full applications with perl06:42
siccnesstheres a million guides on the net for bash scripting06:42
Kingsqueakthe Bash-HOWTO on tldp.org is great06:42
leofenderi will go to read the linux bible as know more06:42
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leofenderyeahh! perl so is the best scripts creator06:43
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Kingsqueakleofender http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html06:43
leofenderthanks Kingdqueak06:43
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Kingsqueakit's not just for beginners that doc either ;-)06:44
CppIsWeirdhmm, i dont have access to the server right now. VNC was turned off.06:44
leofenderany day i will be a drives creator and a expert on linux.06:44
leofenderi wish that06:44
gustavol1can someone help me with compiz ?06:45
gustavol1I cant start compiz06:45
leofenderbye bye!!06:45
leofenderthanks for all!06:45
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neo2ubuntuI need help plz06:45
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gustavol1I have followed the ubuntu forum howto06:45
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digivoreanyone ever use Bastille?06:45
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neo2ubuntucan someone help me install Ubuntu to my hda06:46
gustavol1but it doesnt work06:46
Chippyhey, how do I add fonts to ubuntu?06:46
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto06:46
ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer06:46
alpha255neo2ubuntu, do you have a cd?06:46
Chippytritium: thanks :)06:46
knapperHey guys, I just recently upgraded to edgy and am having some (a lot) of trouble. For one, video playback is very ugly. The avi I am playing played fine before I upgraded and now it doesn't play in any media player but mplayer and gxine and looks terrible. Any ideas?06:46
tritiumChippy: :)06:47
neo2ubuntumy cd is currputted I think...i frezzes up on step 6 copying files at 49%...is there a work around that can fix this?06:47
Ademani tried to install the k3d package and i'm pretty sure it broke apt, not beyond repair, i just hafta work some magic06:47
Ademanbut i wanna know what06:47
Ademanthe post-installation script failed for k3d, and when i try and uninstall k3d it keeps wanting to run the post-installation script BEFORE it runs the uninstall script06:47
neo2ubuntuAdeman: Do you know how I can solve me problem?06:47
amirare there any differences in operating kubuntu, xubuntu, and ubuntu?06:48
amiror do they function the same06:48
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cudaman73amir: only the DE06:48
neo2ubuntuwhere can I go to get one on one help for Ubuntu installation?06:48
Ademanamir: they function internally the same, but they have different graphical frontends (basically) so yes you woudl in a sense need to learn each, but they're all very similar06:48
neo2ubuntucan anyone read this text?06:48
Ademanamir: desktop environment06:48
amiroh ok06:48
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neo2ubuntuIs this the channel for help?06:49
amirademan, which one is the easiest to learn for newbies to linux? or does it not really matter?06:49
Ademanamir: a lot of people like KDE because its very windows-like06:49
cudaman73Kubuntu is probably the most windows like06:49
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Ademanand Kubuntu uses KDE06:49
Ademanso yeah, kubuntu is my bet06:49
neo2ubuntuAdeman: Can you help me next?06:49
Ademanneo2ubuntu: sure, i just got home whats the problem?06:50
amirAdeman, so if I really need to start a grasp on linux, do you recommend starting with kubuntu?06:50
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neo2ubuntuAdeman: My prob is i have a bad cd of Ubutu..im in it now06:50
mosheI'm running Edgy, and after enabling the nvidia proprietary driver, the fonts in Firefox went weird, like the menu bar and dialog fonts being much larger than before.  Anyone know how to fix this?06:50
neo2ubuntuIs there a way to install over the network 2 my pc06:50
Ademanneo2ubuntu: no way to burn a new cd?06:51
neo2ubuntuI want to install Ubuntu on this hda but the program fails to complete06:51
alpha255neo2ubuntu, did you use a torrent file to download?06:51
Ademanmoshe: i dunno about firefox, but gdm (the login screen) for me after i install the NVIDIA drivers has bigger fonts06:51
neo2ubuntuAdeman: No working CD burnner here06:51
Ademani honestly have never cared enough to mess with it though06:51
Ademanneo2ubuntu: oh, thats a problem, how'd you get your first cd though?06:51
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amirAdeman, are there just as many resources available for ubuntu as there are for kubuntu?06:52
neo2ubuntuI burned it in windows a while back but my winbloz is junk now06:52
mosheAdeman, it's strange that you said that, because all my other fonts were reset to smaller sizes.06:52
amirI mean in terms of help06:52
neo2ubuntuIm in the Ubuntu live CD part now06:52
alpha255neo2ubuntu, how about a friend's machine?06:52
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neo2ubuntunot htis late06:53
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neo2ubuntuits 1am here06:53
Ediehowhow do i see font paths in ubuntu?06:53
neo2ubuntui have been working on this 4 awhile06:53
neo2ubuntuis there a work around?06:53
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Ademanamir: there's a #kubuntu channel, which honestly i think can be a lot more helpful than #ubuntu at times06:54
ZirJokerhi everybody06:54
neo2ubuntulike streaming the install from a Ubuntu server to install on my hda06:54
neo2ubuntuor can i get a new installer program to do it from the web?06:54
ZirJokerdo you ppl know any autocad similar program?? i downloaded qcad but it doesnt open my dwg files x-x06:54
amiralright thank you Ademan06:54
Ademanamir: no problem :-) hope that helps06:54
neo2ubuntuAdeman:  I hear that it can be done06:55
Ademanpersonally i prefer ubuntu (which uses GNOME rather than KDE) but for total newbies i think KDE is a bette choice just because it will be slightly more familiar06:55
neo2ubuntulike through Knoppix06:55
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Ademanneo2ubuntu: i think they were just saying you could use the liveCD to download a new ISO to your hard drive and then burn it to a new liveCD06:55
Ademanbut then again i don't know for sure, i've never heard of that06:55
ZirJokerim a newbie and i prefer gnome XD06:55
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neo2ubuntuok Ademan06:56
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AdemanZirJoker: i started out with GNOME myself, worked out fine, but i think it probably took me a bit longer06:56
neo2ubuntuSo i can not have it install from another site06:56
ZirJokerAdeman do you know any program similar to autocad? XD06:56
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legongnome is kind of slow I think... is it my graphic card drivers, or is it just slow forever?06:56
ChaosFanneo2ubuntu: do you have a running linux box at hand?06:56
neo2ubuntui can make one06:56
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duncanmanyone using compiz on edgy?06:57
neo2ubuntuI have distros of slackware 10.1, Zenwalk, gentoo, and some others...plus BackTracks, STD knoppix & other live cds06:57
ChaosFanneo2ubuntu: you could build your harddisk into the other linux machine and debootstrap there06:57
watson540i see all these people saying they get fast xgl'ish stuff with just p3's man, am i missing something here? should i be running aiglx for my ati card instead of xgl?06:58
neo2ubuntuChaosFan: Can I install BackTracks to my hda...then get Ubuntu over the net by this debootstrap06:58
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ChaosFanneo2ubuntu: you should install it somewhere else06:58
AdemanZirJoker: i'd only tried autocad06:58
neo2ubuntuIm in Ubuntu now..but on the cd live part06:58
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Ademansorry, qcad06:59
ZirJokerautocad 2000 with wine?06:59
Ademanthat might work, i dunno hold on06:59
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ZirJokermy brother is an architect and he needs autocad 2006...06:59
neo2ubuntucan i just build some partitions ...mk some dir.. and then debootstrap it from this enviroment06:59
ChaosFanneo2ubuntu: or use knoppix or something, then partition, format and mount your hda, debootstrap there and install a kernel and grub/lilo06:59
ZirJokerqcad doesnt supports dwg files x-x06:59
iCodI get ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1355:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card when I try to call in skype06:59
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neo2ubuntuChaosFan: Can I do it from this evo07:00
ChaosFanneo2ubuntu: there are severeal tutorials out there, look for creation of a chroot07:00
ChaosFanneo2ubuntu: if the livecd has the debootstrap-command07:00
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AdemanZirJoker: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=86 here's reports of how well (or not) autocad's different versions have worked on wine07:01
neo2ubuntuChaosFan: I have the burned cd07:01
AdemanZirJoker: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=6035   EEEWWW, last version of wine 0.9.23 was crap, we're on 0.9.2407:01
Ademanmay be out of luck on wine...07:01
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ChaosFanneo2ubuntu: just try to follow some chroot-tutorial, and do not forget to install a kernel and a boot loader afterwards07:01
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starignusi have a problem tu burn cd-R i use gonome baker but  when i want to import a new sesion it dismount the cd-r, does it close the cd,-r? that is why the cd is unmounted07:02
ChaosFanand now i'm off, got to write a test in some minutes...07:02
neo2ubuntuok im loking in to it07:02
ZirJokerhee hee07:02
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AlphaxI went and got myself an alternate install iso using jigdo; is there a jigdo template available for the desktop livecd?07:02
ZirJokeri havent used wine yet07:02
ZirJokeri installed linux 2 weeks ago07:02
DigitalNinjaHow do I flash a BIOS when I'm running Ubuntu Linux and the motherboard people want me to download a .exe file?07:02
abattoirhi, does ubuntu come with an IRC client installed on a default installation?07:02
morgueguys I'm following this howto (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111225&highlight=logitech+quickcam) and it says I have to get the "kernel-headers 2.6.10 for i386 from synaptic" but those are not there... what should i do???07:03
DigitalNinjaabattori: No07:03
Ademanwine is great, i'm currently playing day of defeat SOURCE at full speeds on my computer, quite impressive if you ask me, but its by no means perfect...yet...07:03
neo2ubuntuis there a small version of Ubuntu i could download to a jumpdrive to install to my hda07:03
starignus<Ademan> i have a problem tu burn cd-R i use gonome baker but  when i want to import a new sesion it dismount the cd-r, does it close the cd,-r? that is why the cd is unmounted07:04
morgueanyone knows how to install the logitech messenger webcam?07:04
abattoirDigitalNinja: ok, thanks07:05
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Ademana new session? like loging out and loging back in? or a gnome baker session? (sorry i'm unfamiliar with gnomebaker, sometime way back when someone told me to use graveman, and it works great for me)07:05
neo2ubuntuWhat will happen if i download Ubuntu agian to this session of Ubuntu live to the desktop?...Will it be able to fit?...and if so i think i can try to use my cd burnner if it will work this time>07:05
Lynoureneo2ubuntu: no, but there are other versions of linux for that, e.g. Knoppix07:05
kronomanneo2ubuntu: try fluxbuntu, or xubuntu, or damn small linux07:05
neo2ubuntuLynoure: I have different distros of Knoppix07:05
Lynoureneo2ubuntu: good for you.07:05
DigitalNinjaabattoir: you can install xchat07:06
kronomanneo2ubuntu: I think that damn small linux can be booted from USB or a file in a vfat filesystem, check it at his webage07:06
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fgxnDoes ubuntu have a tool like Debian's apt-file?07:06
neo2ubuntukronoman: Are any of them able to get me up to date on Ubuntu from that linux distro?07:06
kronomanI don't know07:07
neo2ubuntulike damn small linux on my jumpdrive07:07
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Lynourefgxn: yes, it exists, not installed by default07:07
starignus<Ademan> i  meat  whe i burn a cd but a cd-r with few information without closing the sesion and i want to use my cd-r qith the space that is empty07:07
neo2ubuntuwell i just want to take the time to say that i think Ubuntu is great07:07
fgxnLynoure: apt-get install apt-file tells me there's no such package07:08
neo2ubuntuI tried to get gentoo but i couldn't get to xwindos with startx07:08
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Ademanstarignus: i think it finalizes the disk whenever you burn (it writes zeroes to the rest of the cd)07:08
alpha255nite all07:08
cisbranehey i just installed edgy (and ubuntu for first time) on my laptop. my sound kinda works. the built in speakers work fine no problem there. however when i plug in external speakers, the sound is not routed to the speakers... any ideas? i think the alsa driver is hd nvidia or something like that.. in winxp it's listed as connextant hd audio07:08
iCodALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1355:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card07:08
alpha255nice chattin07:08
Lynourefgxn: Do you have universe and multiverse enabled? It's in one of those, I think07:08
ubotuapt-file is a program that can tell you which package(s) contain(s) a given filename. To install it and generate the database it needs, run "sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update"07:08
neo2ubuntumy attempes to install Ubuntu on my local HD have failed so far...It keeps locking up on step 6...copying files at 49%07:08
Lynourefgxn: in Universe, it seems07:09
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fgxnLynoure: Ah, I don't have universe or multiverse, no. I was under the impression that those were evil packages not to be used. :)07:09
ubotujigdo: GTK+ download manager (beta version). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.3-1 (edgy), package size 187 kB, installed size 440 kB07:09
neo2ubuntuI think its my disk of Ubuntu that is the problem07:09
joeshmoello all!07:09
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Lynourefgxn: not completely supported, but in my opinion far from evil07:09
Ademanneo2ubuntu: well if i remmeber right the old text mode installers seemed to hang around 48% but they didnt, how long did you give it at 49%?07:10
neo2ubuntubut im still able to get on Ubuntu from just the CD07:10
amirhow can I find out if ubuntu has recognized my CD burner?07:10
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fgxnLynoure: They don't get security upgrades, neg?07:10
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Lynourefgxn: the lines for them even exists in the sources list, just commented out, if I remember07:10
neo2ubuntuAdeman: I took a nap and woke back up hours l8r to it still at 49%07:10
neo2ubuntuThe CD just stopped spinning07:11
fgxn"universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security team" quoth sources.list07:11
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Lynourefgxn: then you just need to watch the security announcements a bit youself07:11
joeshmouh oh07:11
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joeshmonew security updates?07:11
Ademanneo2ubuntu: try doing a md5sum of the cd and comparing it with what they have on ubuntu.com07:11
neo2ubuntuI was hoping there was a text base installer that might work around the GUI installer07:11
starignus <Ademan>so it do it for default in linux ubuntu07:12
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neo2ubuntuAdeman: If my cd is bad...Can I get the good files i need from the web?07:12
fgxnLynoure: I wouldn't even know where to start looking for security announcements that weren't issued by the Ubuntu team.07:12
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Alphaxneo2ubuntu, the alternate installer does that07:12
neo2ubuntuI just need the core kernal on my HD...then i can update07:12
Lynourefgxn: But I can see if you do not want to do that. I assume you are also not installing any binary-only things or any proprietery codex, then?07:12
Ademanneo2ubuntu: short of downloading the ISO from ubuntu.com again (use bittorrent) and then burning it to a new liveCD no there's no way i know of07:12
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iCoddoes anyone have problems with modprobe?07:13
fgxnLynoure: Nope...I try to stay pretty vanilla.07:13
fgxnAh, good. nvi is in universe as well.07:13
neo2ubuntuwas that the chroot07:13
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RuggeroI installed Edgy Eft from Dapper and my SD Card is not recognized as a disk  anymore from ubuntu, it doesn't even show in /proc/partitions, any clue how to reactivate it? the SD slot is embedded in my HP laptop. Have07:13
amirAdeman, is there a quick way to switch to kubuntu from within ubuntu?07:13
Alphaxgrrr. why is there no .jigdo for teh desktop cd?07:13
Ayabara_I upgraded from dapper to edgy using apt, and my computer freezes during startup. can anyone help me debug/fix this?07:14
Lynourefgxn: for a tool of Debian origin, I'd just look at debian security announcements, but it's not a complicated tool, I'd say your risk of getting a remote exploit that uses apt-file is very slim07:15
neo2ubuntuso what was the other method of installing to my hd with out using the version on the Ubuntu GUI...can I *get it from the web to install?07:15
VigoFuseHow many gigs sould I allocate for an ubuntu install to HDD? And is the DSKPRT or whatever inside the Desktop CD?07:15
neo2ubuntuCan I get Debian and change that into Ubuntu?07:15
fgxnLynoure: My fear was more based