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| cbx33 | mhz, !!!! | 12:18 |
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| cbx33 | wow long time no see | 12:18 |
| mhz | cbx33: hey ya!! | 12:18 |
| cbx33 | how are you | 12:18 |
| mhz | indeed, toooooo loooong | 12:18 |
| mhz | still kind of unemployed but at least, kicking :) | 12:19 |
| mhz | I am helping an internet cafe to migrate to *buntu | 12:19 |
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| cbx33 | nice | 12:19 |
| cbx33 | sorry about the unemployed | 12:19 |
| cbx33 | I know how that feels | 12:19 |
| mhz | so, they ar considering a mix solution: Edubuntu server + 5 clients and about 10 kubuntu stations | 12:20 |
| mhz | (kubunt, basically because they want to use openkiosk) | 12:20 |
| mhz | cbx33 and all devels: CONGRATS for Edubuntu 6.10 | 12:21 |
| mhz | it looks and feels great | 12:21 |
| mhz | I only dislike the uspalsh .) | 12:21 |
| cbx33 | I didn't do much | 12:21 |
| cbx33 | :( - sorry mhz that was my doing | 12:21 |
| mhz | but i did nothing :) | 12:21 |
| cbx33 | what about the sounds | 12:21 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 12:21 |
| mhz | sounds are very nice, indeed | 12:22 |
| mhz | it felt good the change | 12:22 |
| mhz | oops, the change felt good | 12:22 |
| mhz | cbx33: the thing is not really that it is too redish... | 12:22 |
| mhz | it is the fact that redish logo over redish background...not good choice | 12:23 |
| mhz | kubuntu and xubuntu decided to use their logos over black bg | 12:23 |
| mhz | so, the logo gts emphatized | 12:24 |
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| cbx33 | yeh i see your point | 12:24 |
| cbx33 | we just wanted to mak the most of 256 colours | 12:25 |
| cbx33 | anyway | 12:25 |
| cbx33 | nn guys | 12:25 |
| cbx33 | nn mhz | 12:25 |
| mhz | cbx33: anyways, thx foryour help | 12:25 |
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| nixternal | hehe | 01:23 |
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| gregben | Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 LTS and would like to install the edubuntu applications (math, games, etc.) only. Any ideas on how to do this? | 06:53 |
| bimberi | hi gregben, if you install the edubuntu-desktop package it will brink in those apps | 06:53 |
| gregben | Bimberi: Thx. Won't this wipe out the regular desktop? I have a kindergartener, a | 06:55 |
| Fujitsu | gregben: It only installs extra stuff, so no. | 06:55 |
| bimberi | gregben: no it won't | 06:55 |
| gregben | fujitsu, bimberi: Thx, I'll go ahead and try it. Bye. | 06:56 |
| bimberi | gregben: np :) | 06:56 |
| gregben | Hi. I tried downloading edubuntu desktop via synaptic and it asks for the 6.06LTS CD-ROM which I don't have handy. Any way to just d/l everything from the net? | 07:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sure | 07:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | enable the repositories (in one of the menus at the top) and download off them :) | 07:06 |
| gregben | Kamping_Kaiser: Wow. That did it. Thanks a bunch. :-) | 07:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | np :) | 07:09 |
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| LaserJock | cbx33: hi! | 09:30 |
| stgraber | !pastebin | 09:32 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things) | 09:32 |
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| cbx33 | hey LaserJock | 09:46 |
| cbx33 | sorry got dc'd | 09:46 |
| cbx33 | is it just me or am I laggggyyy | 09:53 |
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| cbx33 | am I here? | 10:26 |
| Burgundavia | cbx33: never | 10:31 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia: haha | 10:33 |
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| highvoltage | accidental reboots-- | 11:47 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | gday highvoltage | 11:49 |
| highvoltage | hi there Kamping_Kaiser | 11:53 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 11:54 |
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| cbx33 | ey jsgotangco | 12:50 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 12:50 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: for what it's worth, I really like the usplash image in edubuntu | 12:51 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: hmmmm | 12:51 |
| cbx33 | heh thanks highvoltage | 12:52 |
| cbx33 | did you see the updated comic strip? | 12:52 |
| highvoltage | nope | 12:53 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: have you done LTSP with KDE before? | 12:53 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: yep | 12:53 |
| cbx33 | http://progbox.co.uk/comic | 12:53 |
| cbx33 | see the comic1-edit2 I think | 12:53 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: just a sec... | 12:53 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: is it painful compared to doing it in gnome? | 12:53 |
| cbx33 | is xfce easy? | 12:54 |
| jsgotangco | pretty much | 12:54 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: here is my memory tests with ltsp and kde from a while back, kde performs slightly better than gnome: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2005-September/000537.html | 12:54 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: i wont be surprised, its pretty snappy | 12:55 |
| cbx33 | see i always thought kde was slower than gnome | 12:56 |
| highvoltage | yep. gnome seemed to scale a bit better. | 12:56 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: it completely depends on how you use it and what machine you have | 12:56 |
| cbx33 | but live cd's seem to work better with kde | 12:56 |
| highvoltage | it's a case of ymmv | 12:56 |
| highvoltage | it does. | 12:56 |
| jsgotangco | cbx33: it does | 12:56 |
| cbx33 | why is that? | 12:57 |
| highvoltage | kubuntu installs nicely on a pc with 256MB ram, where ubiquity with gnome just crashes. | 12:57 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: kde's libraries are more integrated, and uses less ram | 12:57 |
| jsgotangco | i dunno its probably that kde code is much faster | 12:57 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: the downside is that their libraries are *so* integrated, that you have to have all or nothing | 12:57 |
| jsgotangco | its really clean | 12:57 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 12:57 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: which is why the kdelibs packages for edubuntu is so large, and we actually just need a small part of it | 12:57 |
| jsgotangco | its your kall | 12:58 |
| highvoltage | gnome can be much smaller too. slackware ships with dropline gnome, which is much snappier. | 12:58 |
| highvoltage | but ubuntu ships with everything and the kitchen sink gnome :) | 12:58 |
| cbx33 | right | 12:59 |
| cbx33 | do we have dropline gnome in the repos? | 12:59 |
| jsgotangco | i will use kubuntu for a while | 12:59 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: nope | 12:59 |
| cbx33 | aww... | 01:00 |
| cbx33 | dang it | 01:00 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: I like the handwriting more :) | 01:00 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: I think the handwriting just needs to be a bit neater. the problem with the font is that it's roo obviously a font | 01:01 |
| cbx33 | ok | 01:02 |
| cbx33 | i'll brush up on my handwriting | 01:02 |
| highvoltage | i think you just need to draw the comic once, and then again. your handwriting isn't ugly, it just seems squashed in at some places, and the size differs. | 01:03 |
| highvoltage | so if you do it once, you know what your space requirements is. perhaps just do a very draft one, and after that draw it nicely and do the text. | 01:03 |
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| cbx33 | thanks highvoltage | 01:03 |
| jsgotangco | im gonna play some games | 01:04 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 01:04 |
| jsgotangco | brb | 01:04 |
| cbx33 | hahah | 01:04 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: the goods are on your way | 01:05 |
| jsgotangco | muhahha | 01:05 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: kewl :) | 01:13 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: can you send me your postal/physical address too? I'd like to send you some software. | 01:13 |
| jsgotangco | so pray that the cops won't knock on your door | 01:14 |
| highvoltage | heh :) | 01:14 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: oh can you seend me Office 2007? | 01:14 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 01:14 |
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| cbx33 | do not mention the O word in here | 01:15 |
| jsgotangco | *its soo pretty* | 01:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | o_0 | 01:15 |
| jsgotangco | heh what movie did i hear that line before | 01:15 |
| cbx33 | findingnemo | 01:15 |
| jsgotangco | nahh | 01:16 |
| jsgotangco | a bug's life | 01:16 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: I can send you even better :) | 01:16 |
| jsgotangco | oohhhh office 2007+vista ultimate | 01:16 |
| jsgotangco | ok brb | 01:17 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:32 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hey :) | 03:35 |
| ulinskie | hello bddebian | 03:35 |
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| bddebian | Heya Kamping_Kaiser | 03:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 03:45 |
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| mhz | hi all | 08:00 |
| highvoltage | hey mhz!!! | 08:00 |
| mhz | hey highvoltage!!! | 08:00 |
| mhz | i am so happy to see ya | 08:00 |
| highvoltage | I'm happy to see you back too | 08:00 |
| mhz | friendly faces are always nice | 08:00 |
| highvoltage | I noticed you were here last night, just after you left | 08:00 |
| mhz | back? | 08:01 |
| highvoltage | friendly faces? where? | 08:01 |
| mhz | oh you mean i have been "away" from irc | 08:01 |
| highvoltage | mhz: just been a while since I saw you online | 08:01 |
| highvoltage | yes, from irc :) | 08:01 |
| highvoltage | how are things that side? | 08:01 |
| mhz | indeed, on-line has been a difficult thing to me | 08:01 |
| mhz | well, More teachers are aware of edubuntu now :D | 08:02 |
| mhz | and so, they get to ask questions to email | 08:02 |
| mhz | but no way they get to ML :( | 08:02 |
| mhz | nor forums | 08:02 |
| mhz | since last 3 days, i have been helping this internet cafe to migrate to *Buntu | 08:03 |
| mhz | BUT.... | 08:03 |
| mhz | gee! always a but!! | 08:03 |
| mhz | they want a mix solution | 08:03 |
| highvoltage | as always :/ | 08:03 |
| mhz | Edubuntu and Kubuntu | 08:03 |
| mhz | edubuntu server for 5 clients + 10 kubuntu standalones | 08:03 |
| highvoltage | why kubuntu? for the kiosktool? | 08:03 |
| highvoltage | ah yes, now I remember from your conversation from last night. | 08:04 |
| mhz | well, because they feel kde is more like win | 08:04 |
| mhz | please note the 'they feel' | 08:04 |
| mhz | personally, you know desktop is not something i get concerned about :) | 08:05 |
| mhz | anyways, that implies i get to worry on how to admin such mix environement | 08:05 |
| mhz | considering the kubuntu stations will dual boot | 08:05 |
| mhz | (at least for this early stage of migrations) | 08:05 |
| mhz | later, we'll see some solution to play win games on the linux side | 08:06 |
| mhz | cedega, so far, only runs smoothly for Starcraft, nothing else | 08:06 |
| mhz | Any ideas on how to admin everything from same Edubuntu server? | 08:07 |
| highvoltage | when the auth stuff happens, that will be much easier. | 08:09 |
| Burgwork | auth and config are two slightly different issues | 08:09 |
| highvoltage | NIS might be your easiest option, although there has been a script for easy ldap on the edubuntu lists, I haven't tried it though. | 08:10 |
| highvoltage | Burgwork: yep. | 08:10 |
| Burgwork | auth is pretty easy, but a bit of a pain to setup | 08:10 |
| Burgwork | I have an openldap server here at work | 08:10 |
| Burgwork | config is much much harder | 08:11 |
| mhz | Burgwork: eeek, yeah | 08:12 |
| mhz | lasttime i trie ldap...i suffered :) | 08:13 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all | 09:12 |
| highvoltage | morning sbalneav!!!! | 09:18 |
| === highvoltage has been meukowing today | ||
| highvoltage | sbalneav: there's still a bit that can be removed in rcS.d and rc2.d in the chroot, and I've found that it does speed thing up a bit by parrallelising what's left | 09:19 |
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| Burgwork | highvoltage: have you been playing with upstart? | 09:35 |
| highvoltage | Burgwork: struggeling more like it :) | 09:39 |
| highvoltage | Burgwork: strange that you ask, I only started looking at it in more depth today | 09:40 |
| highvoltage | (after running into some problems with upgrades) | 09:40 |
| Burgwork | highvoltage: well, your ex-boss does have the lead hacker on hire, so you can probably ask him | 09:40 |
| highvoltage | I don't want to bother him unnecassarily | 09:41 |
| highvoltage | although, there's very little documentation on upstart at the moment. | 09:42 |
| highvoltage | (unless I just haven't been looking hard enough) | 09:42 |
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| shiv | anybody using bibus here | 10:17 |
| sbalneav | highvoltage: Hey | 10:23 |
| sbalneav | Are you coming? | 10:23 |
| sbalneav | UDS? | 10:24 |
| LaserJock | no :( | 10:27 |
| sbalneav | Bummer | 10:27 |
| LaserJock | neither is jerome | 10:27 |
| sbalneav | Double plus bummer | 10:28 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 10:28 |
| LaserJock | Paris was fun | 10:28 |
| LaserJock | the Edubuntu Council and LTSP gods | 10:28 |
| sbalneav | We'll have fun this time. | 10:28 |
| sbalneav | Stick close to us: with sabdfl saying how important Thin clients are to corporate environments, thin... IS IN! | 10:29 |
| LaserJock | haha | 10:29 |
| LaserJock | you know, I was really amazed when I mentioned LTSP at a LUG meeting | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | lots of people had heard of it and were really excited | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | not that it's amazing that anybody would like LTSP | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | but people are really into it | 10:30 |
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| nixternal | LaserJock: there is a guy at one of the LUGs here, actually my prez, floydewilde who is in here every now and then..he setup his entire company's warehouse on Edubuntu and LTSP | 10:52 |
| nixternal | he loves it | 10:52 |
| LaserJock | coolio | 10:53 |
| nixternal | i haven't messed with LTSP yet | 10:53 |
| nixternal | i don't have enough equipment to play like that | 10:53 |
| nixternal | actually..can i run a server on a p3 800 just to plya with here? | 10:53 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: how much ram? | 11:00 |
| nixternal | 512mb maybe | 11:00 |
| LaserJock | yeah, it'd probably work fine for testing | 11:01 |
| nixternal | this is rediculous..i have been doing ubuntu support all day long with 2 people | 11:01 |
| nixternal | i get them up and running, and point them to docs and everything..but they keep asking me | 11:01 |
| nixternal | seriously burning me out right now | 11:01 |
| nixternal | one guy is actually rocking on his own now..the otherguy wants to hold my hand to walk to the corner store i think ;) | 11:02 |
| ukubuntu | It is such a double edge sword being a teacher, you want to nurture them but you need to make them go on their own as soon as possible | 11:02 |
| nixternal | he installs dapper yesterday, and now he wants to upgrade to edgy | 11:02 |
| nixternal | arg? | 11:02 |
| nixternal | ukubuntu: so true ;) | 11:03 |
| ukubuntu | parenthood is similar, except you have to keep them for at least 16 years! | 11:03 |
| nixternal | but i feel bad leaving them to fend for themselves | 11:03 |
| nixternal | they are like my children | 11:03 |
| nixternal | ya..hahaha | 11:03 |
| nixternal | what? 16? you gotta keep um for 18 in the states | 11:03 |
| nixternal | ;) | 11:03 |
| ukubuntu | I have found that there are those who take a nugget of info and that is enough to launch them into space yet another will expect you to be their sys admin for the next 3 years | 11:04 |
| ukubuntu | Well, they have a right to leave when 16 if they wish, and I am happy to promote that :D | 11:05 |
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| LaserJock | hi ogra | 11:43 |
| ogra | hey | 11:44 |
| LaserJock | I'm trying to get out of the lab so I can head over the hill | 11:46 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock: always knew you were old ;) | 11:47 |
| Burgwork | hey ogra | 11:47 |
| sbalneav | ogra!!!!!! | 11:47 |
| ogra | heh | 11:47 |
| sbalneav | Long time no see!!!! | 11:47 |
| LaserJock | Burgwork: hehe, well I would have said "mountain" but I'm from Montana and can't call anything here a mountain | 11:51 |
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