=== mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [12:18] mhz, !!!! [12:18] wow long time no see [12:18] cbx33: hey ya!! [12:18] how are you [12:18] indeed, toooooo loooong [12:19] still kind of unemployed but at least, kicking :) [12:19] I am helping an internet cafe to migrate to *buntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [12:19] nice [12:19] sorry about the unemployed [12:19] I know how that feels [12:20] so, they ar considering a mix solution: Edubuntu server + 5 clients and about 10 kubuntu stations [12:20] (kubunt, basically because they want to use openkiosk) [12:21] cbx33 and all devels: CONGRATS for Edubuntu 6.10 [12:21] it looks and feels great [12:21] I only dislike the uspalsh .) [12:21] I didn't do much [12:21] :( - sorry mhz that was my doing [12:21] but i did nothing :) [12:21] what about the sounds [12:21] hehe [12:22] sounds are very nice, indeed [12:22] it felt good the change [12:22] oops, the change felt good [12:22] cbx33: the thing is not really that it is too redish... [12:23] it is the fact that redish logo over redish background...not good choice [12:23] kubuntu and xubuntu decided to use their logos over black bg [12:24] so, the logo gts emphatized === shiv [n=shiv@c-65-96-200-131.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:24] yeh i see your point [12:25] we just wanted to mak the most of 256 colours [12:25] anyway [12:25] nn guys [12:25] nn mhz [12:25] cbx33: anyways, thx foryour help === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #edubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser distributes hugs to all who went awol [01:23] hehe === jinty [n=jinty@137.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@41.241.89.240] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=dsymons@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.220.78] has joined #edubuntu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #edubuntu === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.78] has joined #edubuntu === BonBonTheJon [n=jon@69.61.203.3] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi_ [n=dsymons@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === ulinskie [n=yolynne@202.57.88.42] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.1.245] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi_ is now known as bimberi === gregben [n=gregb@user-0c9haam.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #edubuntu [06:53] Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 LTS and would like to install the edubuntu applications (math, games, etc.) only. Any ideas on how to do this? [06:53] hi gregben, if you install the edubuntu-desktop package it will brink in those apps [06:55] Bimberi: Thx. Won't this wipe out the regular desktop? I have a kindergartener, a [06:55] gregben: It only installs extra stuff, so no. [06:55] gregben: no it won't [06:56] fujitsu, bimberi: Thx, I'll go ahead and try it. Bye. [06:56] gregben: np :) [07:06] Hi. I tried downloading edubuntu desktop via synaptic and it asks for the 6.06LTS CD-ROM which I don't have handy. Any way to just d/l everything from the net? [07:06] sure [07:06] enable the repositories (in one of the menus at the top) and download off them :) [07:09] Kamping_Kaiser: Wow. That did it. Thanks a bunch. :-) [07:09] np :) === _paulb [n=paulb@c-71-197-218-111.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.220.78] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:30] cbx33: hi! [09:32] !pastebin [09:32] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things) === ulinskie is now known as ulinskie-away === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:46] hey LaserJock [09:46] sorry got dc'd [09:53] is it just me or am I laggggyyy === jono [n=jono@88-107-9-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.220.78] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:26] am I here? [10:31] cbx33: never [10:33] Burgundavia: haha === rodarvus_ [n=rodarvus@201.86.7.124.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === ulinskie-away is now known as ulinskie === jinty [n=jinty@137.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@82.227.215.241] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=jonathan@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [11:47] accidental reboots-- === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@ubuntu/bot/edubuntugirl] has joined #edubuntu [11:49] gday highvoltage [11:53] hi there Kamping_Kaiser === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage [11:54] :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [12:50] ey jsgotangco [12:50] hi [12:51] cbx33: for what it's worth, I really like the usplash image in edubuntu [12:51] highvoltage: hmmmm [12:52] heh thanks highvoltage [12:52] did you see the updated comic strip? [12:53] nope [12:53] highvoltage: have you done LTSP with KDE before? [12:53] jsgotangco: yep [12:53] http://progbox.co.uk/comic [12:53] see the comic1-edit2 I think [12:53] jsgotangco: just a sec... [12:53] highvoltage: is it painful compared to doing it in gnome? [12:54] is xfce easy? [12:54] pretty much [12:54] jsgotangco: here is my memory tests with ltsp and kde from a while back, kde performs slightly better than gnome: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2005-September/000537.html [12:55] highvoltage: i wont be surprised, its pretty snappy [12:56] see i always thought kde was slower than gnome [12:56] yep. gnome seemed to scale a bit better. [12:56] cbx33: it completely depends on how you use it and what machine you have [12:56] but live cd's seem to work better with kde [12:56] it's a case of ymmv [12:56] it does. [12:56] cbx33: it does [12:57] why is that? [12:57] kubuntu installs nicely on a pc with 256MB ram, where ubiquity with gnome just crashes. [12:57] cbx33: kde's libraries are more integrated, and uses less ram [12:57] i dunno its probably that kde code is much faster [12:57] cbx33: the downside is that their libraries are *so* integrated, that you have to have all or nothing [12:57] its really clean [12:57] yeah [12:57] cbx33: which is why the kdelibs packages for edubuntu is so large, and we actually just need a small part of it [12:58] its your kall [12:58] gnome can be much smaller too. slackware ships with dropline gnome, which is much snappier. [12:58] but ubuntu ships with everything and the kitchen sink gnome :) [12:59] right [12:59] do we have dropline gnome in the repos? [12:59] i will use kubuntu for a while [12:59] cbx33: nope [01:00] aww... [01:00] dang it [01:00] cbx33: I like the handwriting more :) [01:01] cbx33: I think the handwriting just needs to be a bit neater. the problem with the font is that it's roo obviously a font [01:02] ok [01:02] i'll brush up on my handwriting [01:03] i think you just need to draw the comic once, and then again. your handwriting isn't ugly, it just seems squashed in at some places, and the size differs. [01:03] so if you do it once, you know what your space requirements is. perhaps just do a very draft one, and after that draw it nicely and do the text. === highvoltage gets back to work [01:03] thanks highvoltage [01:04] im gonna play some games [01:04] heh [01:04] brb [01:04] hahah [01:05] highvoltage: the goods are on your way [01:05] muhahha [01:13] jsgotangco: kewl :) [01:13] jsgotangco: can you send me your postal/physical address too? I'd like to send you some software. [01:14] so pray that the cops won't knock on your door [01:14] heh :) [01:14] highvoltage: oh can you seend me Office 2007? [01:14] hehe === cbx33 slaps jsgotangco's wrists [01:15] do not mention the O word in here [01:15] *its soo pretty* [01:15] o_0 [01:15] heh what movie did i hear that line before [01:15] findingnemo [01:16] nahh [01:16] a bug's life [01:16] jsgotangco: I can send you even better :) [01:16] oohhhh office 2007+vista ultimate [01:17] ok brb === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === bronze [n=Lester@c-71-233-244-55.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === ulinskie [n=root@203.111.235.144] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.220.78] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:32] Heya [03:35] hey :) [03:35] hello bddebian === ulinskie [n=root@203.111.235.144] has left #edubuntu [] [03:44] Heya Kamping_Kaiser [03:45] :) === tideline [n=tideline@208.62.120.116] has joined #edubuntu === stelis [n=se@82-71-4-26.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian2 is now known as bddebian === Terrence [n=terrence@60.52.49.208] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.78] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === shiv [n=shiv@pool-72-85-141-122.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === tux_ [n=tux@Mf8cb.m.pppool.de] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [08:00] hi all [08:00] hey mhz!!! [08:00] hey highvoltage!!! [08:00] i am so happy to see ya [08:00] I'm happy to see you back too [08:00] friendly faces are always nice [08:00] I noticed you were here last night, just after you left [08:01] back? [08:01] friendly faces? where? [08:01] oh you mean i have been "away" from irc [08:01] mhz: just been a while since I saw you online [08:01] yes, from irc :) [08:01] how are things that side? [08:01] indeed, on-line has been a difficult thing to me [08:02] well, More teachers are aware of edubuntu now :D [08:02] and so, they get to ask questions to email [08:02] but no way they get to ML :( [08:02] nor forums [08:03] since last 3 days, i have been helping this internet cafe to migrate to *Buntu [08:03] BUT.... [08:03] gee! always a but!! [08:03] they want a mix solution [08:03] as always :/ [08:03] Edubuntu and Kubuntu [08:03] edubuntu server for 5 clients + 10 kubuntu standalones [08:03] why kubuntu? for the kiosktool? [08:04] ah yes, now I remember from your conversation from last night. [08:04] well, because they feel kde is more like win [08:04] please note the 'they feel' [08:05] personally, you know desktop is not something i get concerned about :) [08:05] anyways, that implies i get to worry on how to admin such mix environement [08:05] considering the kubuntu stations will dual boot [08:05] (at least for this early stage of migrations) [08:06] later, we'll see some solution to play win games on the linux side [08:06] cedega, so far, only runs smoothly for Starcraft, nothing else [08:07] Any ideas on how to admin everything from same Edubuntu server? [08:09] when the auth stuff happens, that will be much easier. [08:09] auth and config are two slightly different issues [08:10] NIS might be your easiest option, although there has been a script for easy ldap on the edubuntu lists, I haven't tried it though. [08:10] Burgwork: yep. [08:10] auth is pretty easy, but a bit of a pain to setup [08:10] I have an openldap server here at work [08:11] config is much much harder [08:12] Burgwork: eeek, yeah [08:13] lasttime i trie ldap...i suffered :) === stelis [n=se@82-71-4-26.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has left #edubuntu [] === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@adsl-64-167-249-58.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:12] Morning all [09:18] morning sbalneav!!!! === highvoltage has been meukowing today [09:19] sbalneav: there's still a bit that can be removed in rcS.d and rc2.d in the chroot, and I've found that it does speed thing up a bit by parrallelising what's left === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [09:35] highvoltage: have you been playing with upstart? [09:39] Burgwork: struggeling more like it :) [09:40] Burgwork: strange that you ask, I only started looking at it in more depth today [09:40] (after running into some problems with upgrades) [09:40] highvoltage: well, your ex-boss does have the lead hacker on hire, so you can probably ask him [09:41] I don't want to bother him unnecassarily [09:42] although, there's very little documentation on upstart at the moment. [09:42] (unless I just haven't been looking hard enough) === shiv [n=shiv@pool-72-85-141-122.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:17] anybody using bibus here [10:23] highvoltage: Hey [10:23] Are you coming? [10:24] UDS? [10:27] no :( [10:27] Bummer [10:27] neither is jerome [10:28] Double plus bummer [10:28] yeah [10:28] Paris was fun [10:28] the Edubuntu Council and LTSP gods [10:28] We'll have fun this time. [10:29] Stick close to us: with sabdfl saying how important Thin clients are to corporate environments, thin... IS IN! [10:29] haha [10:30] you know, I was really amazed when I mentioned LTSP at a LUG meeting [10:30] lots of people had heard of it and were really excited [10:30] not that it's amazing that anybody would like LTSP [10:30] but people are really into it === felipe__ [n=felipe@200.107.56.219] has joined #edubuntu === felipe__ [n=felipe@200.107.56.219] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] [10:52] LaserJock: there is a guy at one of the LUGs here, actually my prez, floydewilde who is in here every now and then..he setup his entire company's warehouse on Edubuntu and LTSP [10:52] he loves it [10:53] coolio [10:53] i haven't messed with LTSP yet [10:53] i don't have enough equipment to play like that [10:53] actually..can i run a server on a p3 800 just to plya with here? === mhz [n=admingn@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [11:00] nixternal: how much ram? [11:00] 512mb maybe [11:01] yeah, it'd probably work fine for testing [11:01] this is rediculous..i have been doing ubuntu support all day long with 2 people [11:01] i get them up and running, and point them to docs and everything..but they keep asking me [11:01] seriously burning me out right now [11:02] one guy is actually rocking on his own now..the otherguy wants to hold my hand to walk to the corner store i think ;) [11:02] It is such a double edge sword being a teacher, you want to nurture them but you need to make them go on their own as soon as possible [11:02] he installs dapper yesterday, and now he wants to upgrade to edgy [11:02] arg? [11:03] ukubuntu: so true ;) [11:03] parenthood is similar, except you have to keep them for at least 16 years! [11:03] but i feel bad leaving them to fend for themselves [11:03] they are like my children [11:03] ya..hahaha [11:03] what? 16? you gotta keep um for 18 in the states [11:03] ;) [11:04] I have found that there are those who take a nugget of info and that is enough to launch them into space yet another will expect you to be their sys admin for the next 3 years [11:05] Well, they have a right to leave when 16 if they wish, and I am happy to promote that :D === highvoltage [n=jonathan@196.1.61.13] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_ === kjcole [n=kjcole@ubuntu/member/kjcole] has joined #edubuntu === mario_ [n=mario@83-131-65-211.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [11:43] hi ogra [11:44] hey [11:46] I'm trying to get out of the lab so I can head over the hill [11:47] LaserJock: always knew you were old ;) [11:47] hey ogra [11:47] ogra!!!!!! [11:47] heh [11:47] Long time no see!!!! [11:51] Burgwork: hehe, well I would have said "mountain" but I'm from Montana and can't call anything here a mountain === ukubuntu [n=meme@84-12-177-94.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === felipe__ [n=felipe@200.107.56.219] has joined #edubuntu === felipe__ [n=felipe@200.107.56.219] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation]