=== Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.26.8] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:15] hm... FSF's gNewSense.... [12:15] ok, webcast over [12:15] nothing the see here, move along [12:15] heheh :) === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:17] the only interesting part for non-SUSE folks is basically the MS patent infrigement coverage for every private OSS developer [12:19] ah the Novell/Microsoft partnership? [12:20] yes [12:20] http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/openletter.html [12:21] just reading the FAQ right now :) [12:24] danimo: what do you play the webcast with? [12:24] ah, it's over [12:24] Kryczek: mplayer [12:25] Kryczek: alternatively, there was a flash proxy over at the novell site [12:26] ok... was just wondering why Kaffeine wouldn't work, but it's probably because the webcast is over :) [12:27] Kryczek: or because you didn't install the w32 codecs [12:28] no no, i have them :) [12:32] hm... first MS opens the CE kernel, now this... hm... conspiracy theorists are going to have a blast :) [12:33] Ballmer is on CNBC saying "Ahhh-Bun-tooo" like a moron [12:34] huh? what's Ubuntu gotta do with their new found partner (suckers...)? [12:35] because we are working together with Oracle, which is who Microsoft has been after this year big time [12:35] aaaah [12:35] Microsoft doesn't like the fact Oracle chose Red Hat for a partnership either [12:36] I thought Unbreakable Linux was supposed to be a competitor of Red Hat... :P [12:37] nixternal: btw, do you think RMS is gonna speak about gNewSense in his talk there on the 4th? [12:37] probably not..he never speaks about "distros" usually === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121025.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:38] it will be strictly GNU, and im sure he will diss the OSS community since our philosophy doesn't == his [12:38] other than Ututo [12:40] nixternal: um... who's handling the FAQ on the Kubuntu.org site? [12:41] the community i guess ;) [12:41] dunno really [12:42] ah. I was just wondering if we should add an entry about the KubuntuHiddenFiles stuff (and tag it as "Edgy only") === raphink [n=raphink@raphink.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:47] oooh raphink in Behind Ubuntu :) [12:48] :) [12:51] nixternal: lol @ "Ahhh-Bun-tooo" [12:52] CNBC stopped broadcasting on my cable here :( [12:52] a few weeks ago [12:52] you are lucky [12:52] CNBC is so full of Microsoft rhetoric anyways...bloomberg is much better [12:52] I haven't noticed... [12:53] bah, can't stand bloomberg, the colors are so fugly :P [12:54] and the image is too small :| [12:58] i just noticed the gNewSense letter on fsf.org [12:58] :) [12:58] they totally diss ubuntu in it "one without non-free kernel binary "blobs" or any other non-free software..." [12:59] um... will there be any problems coming from the fact that they will not use Launchpad? [12:59] see..my only issue is this...the internet has to be boring as all hell...gaming must suck === Jucato remembers that RMS doesn't buy/use/accept most CD/DVD's... [01:00] Jucato: why? something about the licence of the Orange Book ? [01:01] he uses gnome only when he needs to do graphical stuff..otherwise he works all from the command line..i have a hard time believing that [01:01] there is no way i could be prehistoric like that [01:01] Kryczek: well most DVD's are encrypted or have restrictions, right? so he doesn't use them. and if someone gives him one, he returns it [01:01] maybe he only IRCs :p [01:02] irssi in console mode is fine enough [01:02] using irssi [01:02] :) [01:02] i am not surprised ;) [01:02] check mine [01:02] hm... [01:03] Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.26.8] requested unknown CTCP from Kryczek: [01:03] tehee [01:03] Kryczek is away: busy [01:03] /ctcp Kryczek version [01:03] ah sorry lol [01:03] I'm not used to CTCP'ing [01:03] nice :) [01:03] doesnt Konversation have that in a menu? :) [01:04] I don't know lol [01:04] ah there is. I didn't check :P [01:04] =) [01:04] I owe irssi a lot. saved my butt a couple of times [01:04] how so? [01:04] remember the broken xorg update in Dapper? [01:05] [CTCP] Received CTCP-VERSION reply from nixternal: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php [01:05] haha [01:05] Jucato: no, I had Breezy at work but I just installed Dapper a few days before 6.10 came out [01:05] I was able to ask in IRC about the fix thanks to irssi [01:05] hehe, nice [01:06] Kryczek: aah. basically there was a broken update. everyone who updated ended up with no X. so knowledge of irssi was a life-saver [01:06] well, from all the IRC clients I've tried, I couldn't find anything easier on the eyes than a translucent Konsole with Irssi in it === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:07] maybe a translucent XChat? ehehe [01:07] I tried that :) [01:07] but it doesnt make the widgets translucent [01:07] heh :) === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:28] nixternal: I have a question about help.ubuntu.com [01:28] shoot [01:29] it now shows Edgy Eft documentation right? but if Dapper is LTS, shouldn't the Dapper docs still be there? [01:30] Jucato, most pages will show info for both (and possibly more) [01:30] they are still there, look at the 6.06 LTS tab up top [01:30] ah I see. (didn't see them... guess they were too small for me :P) [01:31] thanks :) [01:31] np === Jucato now feels silly :P [01:31] hehe === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.220.78] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:56] Hmmm... [01:56] what to do with bugs that are caused by using 3rd party software ? === jjesse [i=user@69-87-140-250.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:57] Mez: is the bug our bug, or of the 3rd party software? and which 3rd party software? [01:57] hey jjesse [01:58] bug 69962 [01:58] Malone bug 69962 in kubuntu-meta "umnet dependencies libavahi-compat-libdnssd1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69962 [01:59] Hobbsee, incase you didnt realise - thats the bug ;) [01:59] moin Hobbsee! [01:59] I mean, we could provide Replaces: Conflicts: etc etc.... but should we? [02:01] hey Jucato [02:01] Hobbsee, so what's your opinion on that ? [02:01] Mez: no. tell them about the force overwrite to shut apt up, and tell them not to use unofficial repos like you did [02:02] Hobbsee, or apt-get remove bonjour ? :P [02:02] Mez: well, that too. if they insist on installing it though... === Mez is slightly annoyed that his "storage media" doesnt work in the way it should (it now opens /media instead of media:/ === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:04] hehe... that's a feature, not a bug :P [02:04] Jucato, I know thats the problem [02:04] I'm just annoyed that Konqueror's navigation panel doesn't follow it... Storage Media still points to media:/ [02:05] Mez: what, i always found that media:/ would just open nothing. [02:05] Hobbsee, one sec [02:05] hi all [02:06] Hobbsee: moin === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11218mo.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:06] Mez: I liked media:/ as an easy way to access mounted/unmounted drives. My problem is that drag-n-drop linking doesn't work with media:/ [02:06] hey freeflying [02:06] Hobbsee: we have about 5-600 guys together celebrate with mark yestoday [02:07] Jucato/Hobbsee, have a look @ these and you'll see what i mean === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:07] http://tiber.tauware.de/~mez/media.jpg [02:07] http://tiber.tauware.de/~mez/media1.jpg [02:08] the main issue is it doesnt show the volume name of the CD - whch i need a lot [02:08] ah yeah [02:08] you have a floppy drive? [02:08] yes I do [02:08] but only the 1 [02:08] hello Hobbsee [02:08] it lists 2 in /media ;) [02:09] well, ones a symlink I know [02:09] but how confusing would that be for a new user ? [02:09] and "usbdisk" [02:09] Mez: /boot and / will certainly not show up (it shouldn't, right?) [02:09] not in media, no [02:10] yes, the "naming" really does need some work... cdrom0 or cdrom1 on the desktop isn't really descriptive :) [02:10] indeed [02:10] what was the reason for not using media:/ [02:10] i like usbdisk :) [02:11] Mez: it nevre worked for msot people :P [02:11] hm... doesn't work as it should? (even some KDE devs think so) [02:11] Mez: I'm also guessing that your Music and Scratch partitions aren't mounted in /media ? [02:12] nope [02:12] that would be the cause of the problem then... [02:12] /music and /scratch/ [02:12] as imbrandon says... [02:13] but the FHS isn't really clear about where to mount HDD partitions anyway... some people still insist on using /mnt while Ubuntu defaults to /media I think [02:14] surely you can mount arbitrary filesystems wherever you want [02:14] thats the whole point of having such a dir structure [02:14] I'm not sure what the Linux FHS thinks... [02:15] that's one advantage of media:/ though. wherever you mount a partition/drive, it will show up === Mez -> bed [02:26] night Mez! [02:26] night Jucato [02:26] and I hope what you wrote in your blog about Novell doesn't happen :( [02:26] Jucato, feel free to comment ;) [02:26] heheh :) [02:27] I do want comments to see other peoples opinion - Ive got a nice long one which i've responded to already === Jucato checks... [02:28] yay, i own two laptops now :) [02:28] wow [02:28] lucky gal [02:28] Jucato, wow 2 laptops, or wow comments ? [02:28] wow 2 laptops [02:28] hehe [02:28] lol sorry :) [02:31] jjesse: !!!! [02:31] i have been looking for you ;) [02:32] Kubuntu Docs for 7.04 - I take it the freeze has occurred w/ trying to create a new spec, but I was thinking we should have spec'd individual docs, plus we should have spec'd doc artwork, to remove the KDE stuff and have a Kubuntu look === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@216.220.237.191] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.26.8] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:29] hrm a Conflcits: bonjour on libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 might almost be worth it, thats the second person whos reported that [04:29] even tho its not an official package, heh === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.26.8] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121pqe.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.26.8] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:04] Riddell, ping [06:05] moin imbrandon! :) [06:05] heya Jucato === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:26] imbrandon: excuse me, do the commercial support options in http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid also cover Kubuntu? [06:29] Jucato, yea kubuntu edubuntu xubuntu and ubuntu [06:29] the "offical" distros [06:29] ok thanks. someone was having doubts in #kubuntu :P === sredna [n=anders@kde/developer/alund] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:34] Jucato: also let them know that it won't be Microsoft providing them support, unlike our other competitors in the NSOSS community [07:35] NSOSS? [07:37] No So Open Source Software [07:37] lol [07:37] referring to Novell aren't we? :) [07:38] yes [07:39] still don't know what to make of that news... no matter what angle I try to look at it... makes me worry a bit... [07:40] ya...im sure it won't be good/great in the long run...microsoft has never done anything good for any community [07:40] not even for their own... [07:40] well at least they revised the whole policy about re-installing Vista [07:40] they had 10 years to get in this business.and now that they are loosing market share in the enterprise market, and novell is in debt up to their chins..this comes out of the deal [07:40] I pity SUSE right now... [07:41] especially after oracle chooses red hat to do its work with..this scared novell even more..and microsoft, who doens't even have a shoelace in the db market wants it [07:41] I thought Oracle's move hurt RH more than it helped them? [07:42] hell no..red hat jumped up with that...because it brings internest now from IBM and db2 stuff...because ibm won't go to suse now especially since the microsoft stuff [07:42] hehe [07:43] the only way that red hat gets hurt in this deal, is if they don't step up and produce a solid solution all around...red hat is going to be a touch one to get market share from..they have the largest support infrastructure of any IT company [07:44] on an enterprise level [07:44] god i love being a business major..because i am going to use todays crap and turn it into my A paper!!! [07:44] the only reason I had an interest in SUSE was because of their involvement with contributions to KDE development. But now with Novell doing this publicity stunt... [07:44] hehehe [07:45] too bad I can rarely (in fact almost never) apply my Philosophy studies in FOSS... === raphink [n=raphink@82.234.166.84] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:45] ooh..i am taking philosophy next semester..i can't wait [07:45] hahah! good luck :) [07:46] it's really nice. exercises your grey matter (or mashes it up). But I've rarely found any use of it outside academics... :( [07:48] btw, is Ubuntu ok with gNewSense? [07:50] hmm did i miss something what happened w/ novell [07:50] http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/faq.html || http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/openletter.html [07:52] i don't see why Ubuntu wouldn't be ok with gNewSense [07:53] I have actually downloaded it, and run it on my lappy right now..it is Ubuntu, just was some cool graphics really...they removed everything non-free..which when you aren't used to it, it is weird === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:54] jsgotangco: see what happens when you goto sleep? [07:55] hi jsgotangco! :) [07:55] huh? [07:55] im burning kubuntu now and install it later [07:55] microsoft and novell goto bed [07:55] about time you wisen up there homer ;) [07:55] huh? [07:55] http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/faq.html || http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/openletter.html === Jucato loves pasting that stuff again and again... :P [07:56] nixternal: dude i originally used KDE and wrote kubuntu documentation even before you heard of it [07:56] :D [07:56] i think it was gnome that made you to busy this go around..if you had been using KDE you would have all the time in the world...us KDE people call that free time, you GNOME people call that bug triage [07:56] lol [07:56] hah === Jucato looks for a bomb shelter [07:56] well, I tried kubuntu when you wrote that bug documentation, and I went right back to Slackware for the time being ;) [07:56] i finally got the kubuntu bug i think with flight 2 [07:57] bug documentation??? [07:57] i would have stayed with mepis, but their whole "lovers" community was a bit weird for me [07:57] haha [07:57] i can take the hugs and the circles here in ubuntu, but lovers is a little to up the crazy chain for me [07:58] ive actually tried MS Business Accounting 2007 its pretty neat, we lack that kind of stuff [07:58] we don't need accounting in Linux...everything is free..you create accounting software to track zeros? [07:58] hehe [07:58] hah [07:58] that one was slick, i liked that joke [07:58] you are right though.. [07:58] too bad 90% of the business world doesn't agree with you [07:59] Peachtree is the best accounting software I have used, Orace T&E is close 2nd [07:59] we use peachtree at work [07:59] i love peachtree [07:59] its pretty slick [07:59] i used to do peachtree admin for fun at one point [07:59] i have more licenses than you can shake a stick at somewhere around here [08:00] oh? [08:00] i will have to find them and put them on the market [08:00] at work we declare so much licenses we dont have to worry about BSA [08:00] they are all good, never been used, ready to be activated too [08:00] unfortunately, we're now planning for vista [08:00] heh [08:01] well, these licenses are enterprise, and just might be the versions that allow goldmine and oracle t&e pipes [08:01] next month for vista..6 weeks away now [08:01] do you know that the CE kernel is also shared source? [08:02] they'd be better off putting it on a BSD license though [08:02] they still use CE? [08:02] or Vista CE? [08:02] PowerPC is based on WinCE [08:02] err [08:02] PocketPC rather [08:02] well, PocketPC isn't CE anymore I thought [08:02] its pretty useless without the PocketPC UI though [08:03] Casio used to have a product that used WinCE with a different UI [08:03] hrmm..i swore that was all changed over..but now that i think about it...playstation 2s are ce if im not mistaken [08:03] i dunno [08:03] Dreamcasts are CE to [08:04] do they make those anymore? [08:04] i used to do a lot of embedded systems back then, the CE toolkit for PocketPC and other CD devices are the same [08:04] you just compile them in a different architecture [08:04] till i discovered the disastrous sharp zaurus [08:04] hehe [08:04] omg i would love to have a zaurus [08:05] you're 4 years too late hehehe [08:05] only way to get them here is ebay..and then you are paying an arm and a leg for one [08:05] well yeah the new ones cost a lot [08:05] the new ones are bad [08:05] they run Linux (KDE) at that [08:05] but i can tell you the software selection pretty sucks at the moment [08:05] you're better off replacing it [08:05] and that is pure linux..not embedded w/ familiar correct? [08:06] if you're using the default rom, its embedded linux [08:06] monta vista [08:06] you get busybox etc [08:06] ahhh [08:06] i played with the familiar front end and kde this weekend..it was pretty cool [08:06] i dunno what is being used now with openzaurus [08:06] running kmail, gnupg, konqi [08:07] i can say its much more mature now compared to the time i hacked on it [08:07] we were just talking about kitchensync back then when i quit doing it [08:07] i need some portables to mess with..i have been trying to hack a clie just to read emails..and it hasn't been fun..it keeps dying in between hacks [08:08] flashing roms...hehehehe its been a while since I did that === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.220.78] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:08] i still get giddy over running LAMP on a zaurus before heh [08:10] heh [08:10] that would be a trip to see that [08:10] let me find my geocities account [08:10] im sure i still have it [08:10] omg [08:10] i have no clue where all of mine went [08:11] http://www.geocities.com/jsgotangco/ [08:11] muahhaha [08:11] 2002! [08:12] http://www.geocities.com/jsgotangco/pics/sc_13.54.33_Mon__5_Aug_2002.png [08:12] nice [08:15] alright im gonna wipe out the hd of this laptop and install [08:15] brb [08:15] bye === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:34] hi Hobbsee!! [08:34] hey Jucato! [08:38] anyone in here know where the time is set for planetplanet? we are setting up our planet for the ChiGLUG, and it is stuck in UTC timezone [08:47] Hobbsee: would you happen to know what Kubuntu's policy is regarding KDE bug fixes that were just recently released? [08:48] do we wait for KDE 3.5.6, for Feisty, or do they go into -updates or -security? [08:48] Jucato: what were you thinking of? [08:48] updates, if the diff is eyeballable [08:48] SRU procedure, and the like [08:49] well,some of the bugs I marked, then some bugs that were just fixed lately in the kdepim bug triage [08:49] Jucato: get the patches of all of them, stick them in a debdiff, and then it'll just go thru a SRU like any other [08:50] ah so it depends if someone does that? then it would probably get into -upgrades? otherwise we wait till the next KDE release? [08:50] pretty much === fabo [i=Arme-X@dra38-2-82-233-106-22.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:53] nooo i am konquered! [08:53] O_O === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-132-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:01] jsgotangco: and you're liking it === Jucato is still waiting for jsgotangco to explain what he meant... [09:04] Hobbsee: unfortunately? === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:06] Hobbsee: why do i feel that vista copied crystal [09:06] hehe [09:13] jsgotangco: haha [09:13] jsgotangco: yeah, well [09:13] hey cool, i got a case for this laptop too :) === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:00] imbrandon: xubuntu isn't supported by canonical === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.220.78] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:01] ahh its not? wow [10:01] but kubuntu is [10:02] yes [10:02] Riddell, btw http://federation.imbrandon.com/feisty/html/all.html [10:02] i need to refine what packages it does checks on [10:02] right now its all in section kde [10:03] usefull? hehe [10:05] boo! === Tonio_ [n=tonio@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:05] interesting [10:06] i'll refine the package list and set a cronjob up so it will stay updated this whole cycle ( likely to change to a better url too ) [10:06] wow! you did all that imbrandon? O_O [10:06] Jucato: it's a script [10:06] :) [10:06] Riddell, other than all of section "kde" whats a good way to get the packages we need to keep an eye on [10:06] but still, he did it :) [10:06] Jucato, its a script :) [10:06] imbrandon: rdepends on qt? [10:07] imbrandon: preferably we use toma and allee and the like to stick it into debian, and sync most packages across. [10:07] Riddell, kk [10:07] Jucato: for all you know its a one liner script [10:07] hahah :) [10:08] Hobbsee, yea i've been working with konversation , amarok and yakauke maintainers in debian , like our amarok 1.4.4 is already in debian with only very minor changes [10:08] nice :) === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:10] Hobbsee, sick allee on everything in the not-in-debian list except kde-i18n-xx [10:10] hehe [10:12] imbrandon! this isnt fair! ubiquity is telling me that the hostname can only been 3-18 characters long [10:12] heh set it comething short, then just change it the way i told you after its installed [10:13] ( and file a biug ) [10:13] i likely will [10:13] bug* [10:13] just rember to change it in /etc/hosts AND /etc/hostname ( else sudo wont work ) [10:13] hmm. do i want the dell restore partition? [10:14] no its pretty useless unless you have the default partition table [10:14] sides will you be going back to windows ? hehe [10:14] yeah. games [10:14] on both lappys ? [10:15] i'll use the one that doesnt overheat for games :P [10:16] anyhow its not really usefull if you dont have the default partition table , you still need to restore from a cd [10:17] ahhh, fiar enough [10:22] imbrandon: should there be a limit on how many partitions i can create? this seems to be recognised as sda1 [10:23] only 4 primary partitions but as many extended as you want [10:23] ubiguity should take care of all that [10:23] imbrandon: it seems that extended partitions will not let me set a filesystem [10:24] sda1 is normal for a sata or scsi drive, if its a laptop i'm guessing is a sata one [10:24] brandon@horatio:~$ mount [10:24] /dev/sda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) [10:25] sata drive ^^ [10:26] right [10:26] hmmm, i killed it [10:26] i can have an extended /, right? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:28] imbrandon: I'm your servant [10:28] hi [10:28] Riddell: I have the patch for kwalletmanager [10:28] Riddell: want it for an edgy package ? [10:28] imbrandon: master, what to you want me to do? [10:28] allee: yo [10:28] allee, hehe [10:28] hi Tonio_ !!!! [10:28] heya === Tonio_ was never called master by allee.... [10:28] allee, lemme refine the list a little bit === Tonio_ is jalous [10:28] allee, will you be in MTV ? [10:29] imbrandon: MTV? [10:29] mountain view [10:29] imbrandon: any iea if kwwii will be there finally ? [10:29] I know that sebas will [10:29] Tonio_, yes he will be [10:29] imbrandon: fantastic ;) === allee declars himself as Tonio_ slave [10:29] imbrandon: unfortunately not [10:29] allee, ahh ok [10:30] i'll try to get the list cleaned up today then [10:30] but i have a scrpt that will halp us track changes for our kde packages between sid and feisty [10:30] Tonio_: was you alioth account confirmed? [10:30] allee: yes [10:31] allee: I should have upload rights now, but that'll wait me to be back from mtv [10:31] Tonio_: good :) [10:31] I'm taking a computer pause at the moment [10:31] just between edgy and feisty [10:32] allee, for a sample see http://federation.imbrandon.com/feisty/html/all.html [10:32] Tonio_: makes lot of sense ;) [10:32] ( it will change ) [10:33] allee: hehe === Tonio_ finishes his kaffeine patches [10:33] imbrandon: I lost the package and now I can seem to be able to redo the noaudiocd patch....... [10:33] there is something I have problems to remove. === imbrandon go's back to packing his bag [10:34] ahh' === Tonio_ logs out/in to check the kwalletmanager patch... [10:35]